Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden Staging CIVIL WAR Says Rep As SCOTUS Ruling Declares OPEN BORDER w-Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 Today, the Supreme Court ruled the Biden administration is allowed to remove border barriers in Texas.

00:00:16.000 And now a Louisiana rep says that Joe Biden is staging civil war by pulling down Texas's

00:00:22.000 border barriers.

00:00:23.000 In Texas, Democrats are proposing a solution.

00:00:26.000 Federalize the Texas National Guard, basically have the Fed seize control of an armed force in the state that is opposing their facilitation of human smuggling.

00:00:37.000 Yo man, hey, I know everyone's saying Tim said Civil War.

00:00:40.000 No, a Louisiana rep said Civil War, so we'll talk about that.

00:00:43.000 Plus, Ron DeSantis has endorsed Donald Trump.

00:00:47.000 This is fantastic, so I'm really excited to talk about that.

00:00:50.000 And Trump says Ron DeSantimonious is officially retired.

00:00:54.000 No longer, they will use that name.

00:00:56.000 And then of course, I think the most important story, Sean Strickland got robbed at UFC 297.

00:01:03.000 He should have won.

00:01:03.000 He did win.

00:01:05.000 Someone asked me, they were like, oh, who won the fight?

00:01:06.000 And I was like, Strickland did.

00:01:07.000 And it was like, oh, cool.

00:01:08.000 Yeah, but they called it for DePlessy.

00:01:09.000 But we'll talk about all that.

00:01:10.000 I'll just generate some controversy beforehand.

00:01:12.000 I think DePlessy did great.

00:01:14.000 I'm not a big UFC guy, so I don't know a whole lot about it.

00:01:16.000 But I was very disappointed to see that ruling.

00:01:18.000 You know, Joe Rogan expressed shock at the ruling.

00:01:20.000 Dana White said Strickland won.

00:01:21.000 And the reason why I am salty about this is Strickland, Covington, these are guys who are coming out, and they're standing up for the little guy.

00:01:29.000 They are pro athletes who are speaking up, and it's about time we had some of that.

00:01:33.000 And then I watched this fight where a guy clearly wins, but then they call it for the other guy, and I just feel like it's all staged.

00:01:38.000 It's all fake.

00:01:39.000 So we'll talk about all of that before we get started, my friends.

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00:03:34.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is the great Roger Stone.

00:03:40.000 Tim, thank you very much for having me.

00:03:41.000 I'm delighted to be here.

00:03:42.000 I think everybody already knows who you are, but I must ask you to introduce yourself.

00:03:47.000 Let's see, I'm a veteran of 13 national Republican presidential campaigns.

00:03:51.000 I'm a New York Times best-selling author.

00:03:55.000 I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, a soldier in the army of the Lord.

00:04:01.000 I do a daily show at stoneszone.com, also a radio show at WABC radio on Sundays in New York.

00:04:09.000 And I have a lot of political opinions.

00:04:11.000 I've been in the business 45 years.

00:04:13.000 With the New Hampshire primary coming up tomorrow, there's a lot of news related to this.

00:04:17.000 Biden's not on the ballot, he's also being challenged in Illinois, and you have a lot of insights for us on this to explain what's going on.

00:04:23.000 So thanks for being here, should be a lot of fun.

00:04:25.000 We got Hannah-Claire Brimlow hanging out.

00:04:27.000 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow, I'm a writer for scnr.com, that's Scanner News.

00:04:30.000 I'm really happy to be a part of that team.

00:04:33.000 Ian's here, of course.

00:04:33.000 Hi everyone, Ian Crossland, happy to meet you, Roger.

00:04:36.000 Well, I guess we'll get into it on the show.

00:04:38.000 I'll ask you more about your career once we get into it.

00:04:40.000 We got Serge to my right here.

00:04:42.000 Yo, I am Serge.com.

00:04:45.000 Best, I guess, good match to Strickland.

00:04:48.000 He's a great dude.

00:04:49.000 I'm wearing my South African jersey because I'm so South African it's getting up in the world.

00:04:52.000 We got Mr. Beast.

00:04:54.000 He has no choice but to support Duplessis.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, right.

00:04:57.000 Mr. Beast, girlfriend is South African. 0.82

00:04:59.000 Guy won this championship.

00:05:00.000 I don't know what the championship was, honestly, but Elon Musk.

00:05:03.000 We got a lot of South Africans in the world.

00:05:04.000 I think it was middleweight.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, middleweight.

00:05:07.000 And you know what?

00:05:07.000 Shout out, Bill Tong is based AF.

00:05:09.000 It's delicious.

00:05:10.000 And I think Du Plessis did absolutely fantastic.

00:05:12.000 It was a great fight, but I just felt like Strickland won.

00:05:14.000 But we'll talk about that.

00:05:15.000 We will get into it heavily because Dana White is pushing back on some woke reporters who are calling out Strickland's speech.

00:05:21.000 But let's jump into the first big news here from the post-millennial.

00:05:24.000 Louisiana Rep says Biden is staging civil war by pulling down Texas border barriers.

00:05:31.000 Texas should stand their ground, Higgins posted.

00:05:34.000 This, of course, is in response to breaking news that the Supreme Court will allow federal agents to cut razor wire Texas installed on US-Mexico border.

00:05:44.000 It was a five to four ruling, leaving many people shocked.

00:05:48.000 Texas is being overwhelmed.

00:05:50.000 There's a story, I don't know if it's true, but I'm hearing Mayor Johnson in Chicago is having panic attacks.

00:05:54.000 Is that true?

00:05:55.000 I can double check.

00:05:56.000 Google search, see if you can find that.

00:05:57.000 Because I heard people talking about it on Twitter, but we know that the mayor of Chicago, New York, they are freaking out over the massive influx of illegal immigrants on the border.

00:06:06.000 We know it is the worst we have seen, at least in my lifetime, and it's substantially worse than anything we've seen in the past decade.

00:06:13.000 And so you have Texas desperately trying to stop it, deploying armed soldiers of the Texas National Guard to block federal agents from being able to control the jurisdiction in this area, and now the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of federal agents.

00:06:28.000 This to me looks like a Fort Sumter-esque type scenario, where the federal government is asserting jurisdiction over an area, the state is rejecting it, the state has deployed armed soldiers, and the feds are now countering.

00:06:41.000 We're hearing a lot of crazy rumors, but this does feel like it could be escalating to this federal versus state conflict.

00:06:48.000 And with as many states as we've seen who are upset over the massive influx of illegal immigration and the fact the Biden administration is facilitating this, I think we're walking on the razor's edge here.

00:07:00.000 All I can see is that the federal government is intentionally letting immigrants in to later repatriate or patriate them, I guess.

00:07:08.000 Give them citizenship to go fight in a war that they're anticipating. 0.89

00:07:11.000 I don't understand other than that why this is happening.

00:07:12.000 Or typically it's to shift the census data, right?

00:07:14.000 It's to say there are this many people here and that's why we should get extra representation in the government even though they're not here to legally vote.

00:07:19.000 They didn't enter this country legally. 0.99

00:07:21.000 I mean the implications of illegal immigration are really serious and I think the Federal government is actually pushing Texas to more seriously consider secession.

00:07:30.000 They have that vote coming up to consider it in November.

00:07:33.000 I think they're going to isolate themselves from what is ultimately a small country that we're all attached to.

00:07:38.000 I mean, Texas is independently economically viable without the U.S.

00:07:43.000 Look, it is the policy of the Biden administration to have open borders, period.

00:07:46.000 Joe Biden himself blurted it out three days ago.

00:07:50.000 They asked him point blank, is the border secure?

00:07:52.000 He said, no.

00:07:53.000 And I've said that for a number of years.

00:07:54.000 Well, he needs to tell that to Secretary Mayorkas plus Jean Pierre, because that's the exact opposite of what they have said.

00:08:02.000 Notice what the mayor of Chicago said.

00:08:04.000 He said, this is not sustainable.

00:08:06.000 We're going to run out of money soon because we don't have the money for the social services.

00:08:09.000 for this influx of migrants and the answer is to give them citizenship.

00:08:14.000 How is that the answer?

00:08:16.000 When Secretary Blinken met with the President of Mexico in their joint communique, he also implied that the answer was somehow to give this influx of migrant citizenships.

00:08:25.000 Well, we understand that would allow them to vote.

00:08:28.000 Perhaps that's the goal, but I don't see how that will solve the fiscal problem, the fentanyl problem, the crime problem, the fact that these cities, these counties, these states, they're running out of money.

00:08:40.000 They don't have the money to sustain this influx of migrants. 1.00

00:08:44.000 I think the money they're looking for is to facilitate more of it.

00:08:48.000 We've seen for years they've been smuggling children on planes and transporting them across the country.

00:08:57.000 It's funny when we have a Democrat come in here and we show, like Marianne Williamson, we show her the story.

00:09:01.000 It's like, this is from 2021, where undercover video catches them doing this.

00:09:05.000 They're smuggling people.

00:09:07.000 They're getting away with it.

00:09:07.000 The thing about just getting them in to vote, which they might be doing to give them citizenship and let them vote, is like they could just use electronic voting machines and flip tallies and like cheat the voting systems if they really wanted to guarantee a vote outcome.

00:09:20.000 It's not about that.

00:09:20.000 They don't need to destroy the system with immigrants.

00:09:23.000 So I don't understand.

00:09:24.000 There's got to be more than... It's a long term solution as opposed to a short term.

00:09:27.000 If they were to flip votes, that's short term.

00:09:30.000 If you're to bring in people, promise them public coffers, offer them executive order citizenship or something, which I think Biden will probably try to do at the end of the year, I think there's a strong probability of it, then you will get a longer term voting base.

00:09:44.000 But it's more than that.

00:09:46.000 It's that putting these people into cities increases Democratic members of Congress.

00:09:53.000 So if these people go there, the next time we have a census count, which is, I think, what?

00:09:56.000 It's going to be six years?

00:09:58.000 Correct.

00:09:59.000 How many seats will the Democrats get from non-citizens regardless of whether these people vote, and how many electoral college votes will they get regardless of if these people vote? 0.67

00:10:07.000 The idea is to just change the basic makeup of the American electorate.

00:10:11.000 Look, my sister's son, my nephew, her only son, who lives here in West Virginia, died of a fentanyl overdose late last week, 38 years old.

00:10:22.000 This has touched my family directly.

00:10:25.000 It's a horrific tragedy.

00:10:28.000 But that's what these policies are giving us.

00:10:30.000 And this administration doesn't seem to care.

00:10:32.000 In fact, they seem to be promulgating it.

00:10:36.000 I think it's just, you know, it feels like the unraveling of the country intentionally.

00:10:42.000 Like a, if we can't have it, then we will burn it down.

00:10:45.000 If we can't have it, no one can, kind of thing.

00:10:47.000 Like a deranged stalker ex-lover who's upset that his girlfriend moved on, so he's like, if I can't have her, no one can.

00:10:54.000 They're just, they're just destroying everything, because they're mad Trump's gonna win.

00:10:58.000 Or perhaps.

00:10:59.000 More pragmatically, they're concerned that Donald Trump will win and they will go to prison so they want to destroy whatever they can to make sure they weaken the machine which will once Trump is elected will be turned against him.

00:11:11.000 I mean, the other thing is that maybe they never valued the country before, right?

00:11:14.000 They never valued America at any point.

00:11:15.000 And so the idea that they're like, we don't care that this is destroying anything because we never thought it was worth protecting or saving.

00:11:21.000 They can't see why America is a unique nation and why importing fentanyl into poor parts of the U.S.

00:11:27.000 is a disaster.

00:11:28.000 Right.

00:11:29.000 There's sort of an elitism about it that says this is not something I care about because it doesn't touch my life.

00:11:34.000 And in fact, I don't value this.

00:11:35.000 I mean, it was always what celebrities were like.

00:11:37.000 If Donald Trump gets elected, I'm moving to Canada.

00:11:40.000 It's the same type of mentality.

00:11:42.000 I can leave this behind even if you die from him.

00:11:44.000 But you even have liberals like Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, who runs for mayor saying he's proud that New York is a sanctuary city.

00:11:51.000 Today he's saying this threatens to destroy New York as we know it.

00:11:55.000 These mayors, they don't know what to do.

00:11:58.000 They can't provide the social services required and people who are legal residents are being denied social services so we can house migrants. 1.00

00:12:10.000 Now, here's my concern.

00:12:12.000 You already have armed National Guard, armed soldiers deployed to block federal agents.

00:12:17.000 The Supreme Court has now ruled in favor of these federal agents.

00:12:21.000 They can go in and remove razor wire Basically allowing wave after wave of criminal alien entering this country. 1.00

00:12:29.000 The Texas National Guard is already defying the feds.

00:12:32.000 The feds have asserted jurisdiction here.

00:12:34.000 Texas National Guard said screw off.

00:12:37.000 What's going to change?

00:12:39.000 Why would the Supreme Court saying you can remove the razor wire change anything about Texas state law and how they handle law enforcement?

00:12:48.000 Texas has said it is illegal to cross our borders in this way and we will enforce the law. 0.98

00:12:55.000 The feds are saying we can remove this and allow them to break the law.

00:12:59.000 I don't see Texas backing down from this.

00:13:01.000 Texas is going to say, that's great Supreme Court, really great.

00:13:04.000 Good luck removing the razor wire when our guys are standing there holding guns, blocking you from access to the river.

00:13:09.000 What are the Feds going to do?

00:13:10.000 Show up with guns and point the guns at the National Guard and say, get out of the way?

00:13:14.000 Is Texas, I mean fair question, is Texas going to instruct their armed soldiers, you must now evacuate and let the Feds come in.

00:13:21.000 Because it's the order is it's a temporary order pending the ongoing litigation.

00:13:27.000 Is there a chance that like effectively Texas could be held in contempt of court?

00:13:30.000 Like what are the punishments for not going along with this temporary order pending ongoing litigation?

00:13:34.000 What does that even mean when the feds have already asserted jurisdiction on the river and Texas said F off?

00:13:43.000 You can file all the paperwork in the world for injunction.

00:13:45.000 The Feds have already asserted it's our jurisdiction.

00:13:48.000 And Texas said, don't care. 1.00

00:13:49.000 Get out.

00:13:50.000 With guns.

00:13:51.000 So the only option now is either, the only paths forward would be Texas backs down and says, we hereby respect the Supreme Court.

00:13:59.000 We are going to remove all of our law enforcement.

00:14:02.000 We are going to allow wave after wave of criminal aliens to break state law and do nothing about it. 0.65

00:14:07.000 Or they're going to say this changes nothing.

00:14:09.000 It's illegal in our state.

00:14:11.000 We don't care if the Feds think otherwise.

00:14:13.000 I mean, that's what Paxton said.

00:14:15.000 Attorney General Ken Paxton said, you know, this is a temporary order and the litigation is ongoing and we're going to continue to fight this.

00:14:22.000 I mean, he's not saying exactly what they'll do if they'll refuse to let them take the razor wire out, but he is saying that Texas is not willing to put up with this sort of federal reach into their border security.

00:14:32.000 So what are the Feds going to do next?

00:14:34.000 There's nothing?

00:14:35.000 This is a classic struggle between federal power and states' rights.

00:14:39.000 But while we're sitting here trying to sort this out, how many million more people are going to come into the country illegally?

00:14:45.000 And my fear is that, let's say Donald Trump wins in November, handily, Joe Biden rubber stamps an executive order granting a quick path to citizenship for all of these people.

00:14:57.000 Millions at that point would be what?

00:15:00.000 12 to 15 million people.

00:15:02.000 And then I think we need to set some precedent about how awful, horrendous, unethical, illegal that would be for a president to by decree give people citizenship.

00:15:10.000 this is resolved, those people will have already gotten their papers.

00:15:13.000 Good luck resolving it then.

00:15:14.000 I think we need to set some precedent about how awful, horrendous, unethical, illegal

00:15:20.000 that would be for a president to by decree give people citizenship.

00:15:23.000 You mean like DACA?

00:15:25.000 Yeah.

00:15:26.000 Some mass swipe of the pen.

00:15:28.000 You mean like it's already been done?

00:15:30.000 Like Obama did with Dreamers? 1.00

00:15:32.000 If it's been done before, yeah.

00:15:34.000 This kind of thing cannot, we can't let that stand.

00:15:37.000 That's insane.

00:15:37.000 That would be insane.

00:15:38.000 And now imagine this scenario.

00:15:40.000 Joe Biden, let's say it's November 25th.

00:15:44.000 Trump is president-elect.

00:15:46.000 Joe Biden rubberstands an executive order saying, we're going to secure the border, but the compromise will be all the people who are here are granted a standard path to citizenship, which will take three to five months.

00:15:58.000 You mail in your form, it's mailed back, you sign it, you send it back in, you're a citizen, you'll get your paperwork.

00:16:03.000 And then Come next year, it's challenged in the courts, finally makes it to SCOTUS.

00:16:09.000 SCOTUS says unconstitutional and moves to revoke citizenship from 15 million people who were previously illegal immigrants.

00:16:18.000 Donald Trump as president says, we are going to remove these people who entered this country illegally and were only granted citizenship under false pretenses.

00:16:26.000 The left then says, look at all the videos of Trump rounding up American citizens and putting them in camps.

00:16:35.000 Dwight Eisenhower deported 1.3 million illegals.

00:16:38.000 It can theoretically be done.

00:16:42.000 And as you have a deteriorating condition in the country in terms of crimes, drugs, economic opportunity, and so on, I'm not sure that the Democrats will be on the popular side of this.

00:16:55.000 Also, I'm not sure the constitutionality of Joe Biden waving a wand and saying, well, you're a U.S.

00:16:59.000 citizen.

00:16:59.000 I'm not sure you can do that.

00:17:00.000 What about DACA?

00:17:02.000 Look, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not... I don't think it's illegal, but I mean, Obama's executive order was... What does DACA stand for?

00:17:11.000 Can you look it up?

00:17:12.000 It stands for Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals.

00:17:16.000 Right.

00:17:17.000 And so this is how they inch forward Uh, they say, okay, well, you know, if you were here as a kid, it's not your fault, so we're gonna give you a path to citizenship.

00:17:26.000 And there's a lot of people who only know America, they don't know any other country, and so then what happens is people on the right compromise.

00:17:33.000 A lot of conservatives don't, but many on the right would be like...

00:17:36.000 Okay, fine, fine.

00:17:38.000 We'll stop there though.

00:17:39.000 The next step is Joe Biden's going to say it's been a crisis, it's been a disaster, but the amount of money that's going to cost for mass deportations are beyond our capabilities.

00:17:48.000 The best thing we can do is document these people and then secure the border.

00:17:55.000 And you'll end up getting a bunch of middle-of-the-road people being like, okay, fair, just like when Reagan said he wanted amnesty, and the compromise was we secure the border, but we grant amnesty.

00:18:05.000 My fear is... Let me go back a little bit back in time.

00:18:11.000 This is what I've been saying is going to happen with Texas.

00:18:13.000 I said, if Texas is overwhelmed by this wave of immigration, eventually the state legal apparatus is going to assert their jurisdiction and say, we're going to do something about this.

00:18:22.000 What did we see?

00:18:24.000 State, of course, passed a law saying crossing is illegal.

00:18:26.000 The feds said, screw off.

00:18:27.000 We saw the feds trying to remove the barriers and the water and the razor wire.

00:18:31.000 And I said, if the feds keep doing this with Texas saying no, eventually Texas will assert its jurisdiction and push back on the feds.

00:18:37.000 Then Texas did this with armed soldiers.

00:18:41.000 My fear is how this escalates.

00:18:43.000 And so, many have made the point that if Donald Trump moves for mass deportation of 15 million people when he gets elected, the left will post photos and videos of trains and buses and camps and claim Trump is Hitler.

00:18:54.000 Now imagine if it's substantially worse.

00:18:57.000 And many of these people are granted rubber-stamp citizenship by a Joe Biden executive order unconstitutionally.

00:19:03.000 That doesn't matter to the Democrat activists and lawfare activists.

00:19:07.000 They will just publicly say, look, what does Ocasio-Cortez say all the time?

00:19:12.000 Legal asylees. 0.99

00:19:14.000 Refugees.

00:19:15.000 They're lying.

00:19:16.000 These are economic migrants, fighting-age males, who are coming here by themselves or smuggling children, and then the media and the Democrats lie and claim they're refugees.

00:19:26.000 So what happens next year?

00:19:29.000 When Donald Trump is president and the Democrats just lie and say, these are people who are being naturalized.

00:19:34.000 These are citizens.

00:19:36.000 Trump is targeting citizens and they're going to call it racist. 0.98

00:19:39.000 He's saying he's targeting, you know, Latin American citizens and they're going to use their rubber stamp on constitutional garbage to try and justify it in the press. 0.98

00:19:47.000 Yeah, I think not. 0.88

00:19:47.000 I mean, I think the optics would be really bad either way. 0.88

00:19:50.000 And that's sort of something I hope Republicans are thinking about going into the end of 2024, early 2025.

00:19:56.000 I mean, you asked me when the show started to look up if how Mayor Johnson of Chicago was doing.

00:20:01.000 And the first thing when I looked up his remarks or he's arguing that Governor Abbott is intentionally attacking leaders of color by busing migrants to the cities.

00:20:08.000 I mean, it's going to be an ugly and divisive fight between these two sides.

00:20:13.000 The Postmillennial did report it, that allegedly there's a reporter who made the claim Mayor Johnson has suffered multiple panic attacks as immigration is bubbling up, and that's the insinuation.

00:20:24.000 For the record on DACA, it didn't give anyone citizenship.

00:20:27.000 It gave a two-year stay on deportation for children that didn't have felonies or whatever.

00:20:34.000 And then what happened?

00:20:36.000 Then they tried to propose the DREAM Act, which would have given citizenship, but that did not pass.

00:20:40.000 It would be highly irregular for a dictator to decide who is and is not a citizen of the country without legal recourse.

00:20:47.000 And there's a lot of things that Joe Biden has done which would be highly irregular and dictatorial.

00:20:52.000 I do love the meme of, they've arrested their political rivals, they're trying to put the lead candidate opposing the regime into prison, all while screaming the other side are fascists.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, the people who are trying to censor and cancer people, the people who are conducting 178,000 illegal surveillances on American citizens without warrants, the folks who are trying to lock up Donald Trump, they say we're the danger to democracy, really.

00:21:21.000 Let's jump to the political world.

00:21:24.000 We did have some other news, but I want to get into the politics because we have this.

00:21:27.000 This is big news, and it tells you a lot that we do not lead with this story.

00:21:33.000 Ron DeSantis suspends his presidential bid and endorses Trump.

00:21:37.000 This happened yesterday afternoon.

00:21:39.000 Ron DeSantis gave a speech where he accidentally quoted Budweiser, thinking he was quoting Winston Churchill, which I see as a perfect example, a perfect... Well, how do I say this?

00:21:49.000 It explains his campaign.

00:21:51.000 Yeah, it encapsulates the whole thing.

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 Success is not final.

00:21:55.000 Failure is not fatal.

00:21:56.000 It is the courage to continue that counts.

00:21:58.000 Winston Churchill.

00:21:59.000 No, in fact, that was a Budweiser ad from 1938 talking about fishermen, particularly young men who don't care if the weather is bad.

00:22:08.000 They will try anyway.

00:22:09.000 And, uh, well, Ron, sure.

00:22:13.000 When we played the video in the car, we were driving back home.

00:22:16.000 Someone actually asked if it was A.I.

00:22:18.000 Yeah, I thought so, too.

00:22:19.000 You thought it was A.I.?

00:22:20.000 Yeah, because he looked so good.

00:22:21.000 He was smiling.

00:22:22.000 He looked relieved.

00:22:24.000 It's the best I've seen him look in months.

00:22:26.000 He looked like, wow, I'm so glad that this is over.

00:22:30.000 He opens with, I'm in Florida, and he's, like, happy about it.

00:22:33.000 He looks like he's about to cry. 0.94

00:22:34.000 It's like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.

00:22:36.000 It hurts so much when you stop.

00:22:38.000 Look, he always lacked a rationale for his candidacy.

00:22:41.000 What was the rationale for his candidacy?

00:22:43.000 If you wanted the America first candidate, we already had that person.

00:22:47.000 That was Donald Trump.

00:22:49.000 If you have a choice of seeing the Beatles or seeing a Beatles tribute band, which one are you going to see?

00:22:53.000 You're going to go see the Beatles, right?

00:22:55.000 So he never had a rationale for his candidacy other than saying, well, something might happen to Trump, but that something hasn't happened or to the extent that it has happened, it's actually turbocharged his campaign.

00:23:07.000 So he had one foot in the America First camp, one foot in the Republican establishment camp, but he could never make a case why him, other than, well, Trump might be going to jail, that's why it should be me.

00:23:19.000 And Trump is beloved.

00:23:22.000 He's unlike any political figure we've seen in the history of the country.

00:23:26.000 Let me play a short little snippet from this DeSantis speech.

00:23:30.000 The first snowman in New Hampshire.

00:23:33.000 They are one of the reasons we fight so hard for what we believe in.

00:23:38.000 Winston Churchill once remarked that success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts.

00:23:46.000 While this campaign has ended, the mission continues.

00:23:50.000 Down here in Florida, we will continue to show the country how to lead.

00:23:55.000 Thank you and God bless.

00:23:57.000 So that was the end, of course, where he quoted Budweiser thinking it was Winston Churchill, but I agree.

00:24:02.000 He seems happier than I've seen him in a long time.

00:24:05.000 I also, I gotta be honest, when I saw this, I thought it was AI.

00:24:10.000 I thought it was a deepfake AI-generated speech, and some people point out that he flubs a word halfway through the speech, and I'm like, that's actually, to me, more indicative of it being AI.

00:24:21.000 of it being like auto-generated. All you have to do to make this these days, it's real easy,

00:24:25.000 is Ron could stand up, say three sentences, he could walk up and just go,

00:24:31.000 how now brown cow? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. Leave. And then they can

00:24:37.000 make him say anything they want. I am not actually suggesting that's what they did.

00:24:41.000 It's just, I mean, you thought the same thing?

00:24:44.000 He talks like this, and then he'll go on and say another sentence.

00:24:49.000 And then he'll continue like this.

00:24:51.000 It felt very robotic.

00:24:52.000 And he was smiling.

00:24:53.000 I think, was that not the problem of his entire candidacy?

00:24:56.000 Likeability is a crucial factor in politics.

00:25:01.000 And running for governor is not the same as running for president.

00:25:05.000 Running for governor, you can keep the media at bay.

00:25:07.000 You don't have to give that many interviews.

00:25:08.000 You can control access to yourself.

00:25:10.000 Much tougher to do that when you're running for president.

00:25:13.000 And in this particular case this guy spent 300 million dollars and he dropped out of New Hampshire because he had dropped below 5% of the vote and that was after squeezing out a very narrow but distant second-place finish in Iowa.

00:25:31.000 And he has long-term problems now in Florida where he's hurt his standing very badly.

00:25:36.000 But what the hell is Nikki Haley doing? 1.00

00:25:39.000 She's hanging on to try to be vice president, is what she's doing. 1.00

00:25:41.000 Well, I couldn't agree more, but she is the epitome of the Bush, Cheney, when's the next foreign war wing of the Republican Party. 0.98

00:25:53.000 And they, I think, would try to force her on the ticket.

00:25:58.000 I think she's going to get beat tomorrow in New Hampshire by, I don't know, 18, 19, 20 points.

00:26:04.000 And then we head to her home state, where I think she's going to get shellacked. 0.99

00:26:09.000 It's not incidental that the governor of South Carolina, Henry McMaster, very good guy, the lieutenant governor, most members of his cabinet, most of the leaders, all the leaders of their legislature, were all in New Hampshire yesterday and today campaigning against Nikki Haley.

00:26:24.000 Vivek did it right.

00:26:26.000 Vivek campaigned, for the most part, praising Donald Trump's record, and he actually did not give a good reason for the longest time as to why he was even running.

00:26:35.000 He ran, he said, we're going to do these things, and I was like, these are good things.

00:26:38.000 He defended Donald Trump when bad things happened, and then, only towards the end, he said, I'm running because I think the deep state will stop at nothing to remove Donald Trump.

00:26:47.000 And if that's the case, the last thing we want is Nikki Haley to be the only one on the ticket.

00:26:52.000 And I said, that's actually a really good point, I'll accept that, but I'll tell you this, I'm voting for Donald Trump, and only in that scenario does that make sense.

00:27:00.000 And then, when he loses Iowa, he drops out, praises Donald Trump, endorses Donald Trump, and campaigns for him, and I'm like, that's how you get out of this.

00:27:09.000 He made a name for himself from 0-8%, wonderful job, and now he's launched a budding career.

00:27:15.000 Ron DeSantis went from the shining star of MAGA to the Oscar the Grouch living in a trash can.

00:27:22.000 It is a remarkable feat, to be honest.

00:27:24.000 Well, it's because it denies his origins.

00:27:27.000 Look, Ron DeSantis was a completely unknown, obscure congressman with a bad haircut and a bad suit who was struggling in single digits in a race for governor.

00:27:38.000 He was lifted out of political obscurity by Donald Trump.

00:27:43.000 62 Republican county chairmen, the entire Republican state apparatus, every elected Republican in the Florida legislature, every member of the congressional delegation who's Republican except for Matt Gaetz, had endorsed Adam Putnam.

00:27:55.000 So Ron DeSantis owed his nomination to Donald Trump and then Trump changed his schedule in the last three weeks of the 2018 campaign to return to Florida three times and literally dragged him over the finish line.

00:28:08.000 Wow.

00:28:09.000 I didn't think that voters cared about this.

00:28:11.000 You know what?

00:28:11.000 I was wrong.

00:28:12.000 Voters do care about this.

00:28:14.000 They care about loyalty.

00:28:15.000 They care about gratitude.

00:28:17.000 Ron was 42 years old.

00:28:18.000 He couldn't have waited.

00:28:19.000 Now, I think the flaws in his candidacy would have shown up in 2028 anyway, but he's not a viable candidate for 2028 now.

00:28:27.000 He could have tried to play it more like Vivek did, which would have required him to, one, not attack Donald Trump in these ridiculous ways, and then he actually would have had to have bowed out.

00:28:38.000 It would have been a weird campaign from the get-go, considering how long people were considering him.

00:28:43.000 He was the favorite in the betting odds in January of 2023.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, leading in the polls.

00:28:48.000 He was leading in the polls. 0.94

00:28:49.000 Talk about throwing that all in the garbage. 0.86

00:28:51.000 And for what?

00:28:53.000 But I do want to stress, It was people like me and many others.

00:28:58.000 We were like, we like Ron, but his campaign is being run by children. 0.58

00:29:03.000 And whenever we would say something like, guys, you need to fix this, what will be the response of his campaign?

00:29:07.000 And I'm not talking about his fans.

00:29:09.000 I'm talking about quite literally his staff to attack potential allies and insult them.

00:29:15.000 It was unusual.

00:29:15.000 I mean, I think, and maybe you have a better insight into this, but so much of the DeSantis campaign, to me, seemed like it was that pressure that we heard.

00:29:23.000 I kept hearing this over and over again.

00:29:24.000 Well, he has to run now because if he waits, you have to strike while the iron is hot.

00:29:28.000 If he waits, his name will lose momentum and it'll fall off and he can never have any big opportunities, which seemed counterintuitive to me.

00:29:35.000 It's counterintuitive to me given that Trump had really boosted his career.

00:29:39.000 If he had been loyal, which is what you hear over and over again when Trump supporters are interviewed by the New York Times, by anyone else, they say, I've been voting for Trump for this long and I know that he can do good things and I want to stick with him.

00:29:50.000 They value loyalty and it seems like that pressure to move his political career forward went against this obvious call to loyalty.

00:29:59.000 Well, first of all, he's got two more years as governor, which he could have distinguished himself.

00:30:03.000 If he had gone out and campaigned hard for Donald Trump, he could have earned his support.

00:30:10.000 He could have been next in line.

00:30:12.000 Now he's got a gigantic problem.

00:30:14.000 We have a term limitation of two years.

00:30:17.000 There's a Senate seat up in 2028, but how does he raise the money?

00:30:21.000 What fulcrum does he have to raise the money?

00:30:23.000 He's going to have a recalcitrant legislature now because they resent the fact that he's been missing.

00:30:28.000 We have an insurance crisis.

00:30:30.000 We have a utility rate crisis.

00:30:32.000 We have a fentanyl crisis.

00:30:34.000 Where's Ron?

00:30:35.000 Ron's nowhere to be found.

00:30:36.000 You know what this is?

00:30:38.000 This is Donald Trump, the lead singer in a rock band charting every week with a new single.

00:30:45.000 He finds this guy to play bass.

00:30:48.000 The bass player is standing on stage thinking, like, man, they love me.

00:30:51.000 I should start my own band.

00:30:53.000 So he quits to start his own band, and everyone's like, whatever happened to that guy?

00:30:56.000 That's where he's headed.

00:30:58.000 Wild.

00:30:59.000 It's weird.

00:31:00.000 He struck while the iron was warm.

00:31:03.000 He miscalculated the temperature here.

00:31:05.000 I mean, that's sad.

00:31:07.000 It's no secret that I've been a critic of his wife.

00:31:09.000 I think she drove this decision.

00:31:11.000 I think she was tremendously ambitious and she misread the moment.

00:31:14.000 It was not his time.

00:31:16.000 He had plenty of time.

00:31:18.000 So can he recover from this?

00:31:19.000 Like, does he have a place moving forward in the America First MAGA movement?

00:31:24.000 It's going to be very much up to him.

00:31:26.000 But I mean, look, he had a supermajority in legislature.

00:31:29.000 Let's recognize he paid a million dollars, essentially a bribe to the Speaker of the House.

00:31:33.000 It's a legal bribe because he gives a million dollars to his political action committee.

00:31:38.000 And they changed the state law so that only one person who holds state office can run for federal office without

00:31:44.000 giving up their state office.

00:31:46.000 So if I was in the state house and I wanted to run for Congress, I have to resign,

00:31:49.000 but not Ron DeSantis. He can run for president while remaining governor of Florida, changing

00:31:55.000 the law just for him. It's a bad idea to begin with. Oh yeah, he went to Iowa during a state

00:32:00.000 of emergency in Florida. That was the last nail in the coffin for me.

00:32:04.000 I had been defending like, look, well, we know he's good on policy, he did well in Florida, but his campaign's bad.

00:32:09.000 And then I found out he's in Iowa.

00:32:11.000 It was a blizzard.

00:32:12.000 Were you in Iowa by chance?

00:32:14.000 No, I was not, but I remember it well.

00:32:17.000 We were in Iowa, minus, you know, 15 degrees or whatever.

00:32:21.000 Stores are all closed, heavy snow, and Ron's like, I should be here instead of my home state, which is under a state of emergency that he declared.

00:32:28.000 He flies in, declares, flies out.

00:32:30.000 I was like, wow.

00:32:31.000 That's dereliction of duty.

00:32:32.000 I thought it was weird when he went to Japan and was pretending that he wasn't about to campaign, you know?

00:32:36.000 Like, there were lots of things that sort of felt disingenuous.

00:32:39.000 And I'm not here to be, I mean, I'm not a huge... There were some things about his campaign, like some of his immigration stuff, that I thought was interesting.

00:32:46.000 Ultimately, he never was who I was going to vote for.

00:32:49.000 But I think what's worse is that we're sort of stealing our future.

00:32:52.000 I think ultimately, four more years of Trump and then who comes after that?

00:32:56.000 There has to be a legacy of people to fill these seats when people are term limited and can't move on.

00:33:01.000 Let's talk about New Hampshire tomorrow.

00:33:03.000 I think one of the more interesting stories here is that Joe Biden will not be on the ballot in New Hampshire, which is strange.

00:33:11.000 And there are activists staging a write-in campaign for Joe Biden, which surprised me.

00:33:17.000 I was watching Fox News earlier, and they interviewed a woman who was holding up a sign saying, write in Joe Biden.

00:33:22.000 I was like, I've never seen a Joe Biden supporter before.

00:33:25.000 I guess there are some.

00:33:26.000 When they have to write in, they appear.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess that happens.

00:33:31.000 But, you know, while many people are talking about what's going on with the Republican primaries, how it's basically a big waste of time, Trump's going to win.

00:33:38.000 And they're trying to keep Trump's name off the ballots in these states.

00:33:41.000 Democrats have just basically shut down their primary, not allowing anyone to challenge Joe Biden.

00:33:47.000 So why is he not on the ballot?

00:33:48.000 And what's the strategy here?

00:33:50.000 They changed their rules so they stripped Iowa, the first-in-the-nation caucuses, of their delegates to try to discourage them from having caucuses.

00:34:00.000 They didn't have them.

00:34:01.000 The New Hampshire primary is mandated by New Hampshire state law, not the Democratic National Committee rules.

00:34:09.000 So to punish them for having the primary anyway, They both strip them of their delegates within the convention and Biden doesn't put his name on the ballot.

00:34:19.000 Now, New Hampshire is a state where writing in a name is really very simple.

00:34:24.000 Dwight Eisenhower won the Republican primary there.

00:34:27.000 He wasn't even on the ballot.

00:34:28.000 He won his right in 1952.

00:34:31.000 Henry Cabot Lodge won the nomination or the primary there.

00:34:34.000 1964 in the right.

00:34:35.000 It's very simple to do.

00:34:38.000 Now they're they fear being embarrassed by this little known congressman who did file for the primary, Dean Phillips, who I don't know much about.

00:34:47.000 So now they are hustling to get out a vote for Joe Biden.

00:34:50.000 Well, there's Marianne Williamson as well.

00:34:51.000 And Marianne Williamson.

00:34:52.000 I don't believe Cenk Uygur is on the ballot in New Hampshire either.

00:34:56.000 I'm not following that.

00:34:57.000 I know that he's gotten on in some states, but of course he was not born in the United States or to American parents, so there's a Supreme Court ruling basically.

00:35:06.000 I mean, there's a Constitution saying you have to be a natural-born citizen, but there was also a ruling already rejecting his argument as to why, after being, you know, Cenk Uygur's arguing that He is a citizen in full rights, the same as anybody else, so he should be allowed to run.

00:35:21.000 There's an interesting argument to be made there, but I don't know if he's going to appear on the ballot.

00:35:25.000 But I would say that if, even with this write-in campaign, I think it's possible that Marianne Williamson wins this one.

00:35:30.000 Maybe.

00:35:31.000 I mean, the big tension for me is that now the DNC has really isolated the New Hampshire branch of the Democratic Party.

00:35:40.000 The assistant attorney general sent this letter to them, I think it was like two weeks ago.

00:35:45.000 It was a cease and desist letter saying, You cannot in writing, which they did, the the rules committee for the DNC sent a letter to the New Hampshire Democratic Party saying that if you hold anything during the primary, it's meaningless and you should not encourage voters to do anything.

00:36:01.000 And this is discouraging people from voting.

00:36:02.000 This is voter interference, voter suppression.

00:36:04.000 And it's really building tension between this party and this national mega group that says you guys have to comply with what we want, even if it's against your state laws.

00:36:14.000 I would say it's anti-democracy, wouldn't you?

00:36:16.000 I would, too.

00:36:16.000 I mean, it's actual voter suppression to say it's meaningless, right?

00:36:19.000 That's crazy.

00:36:20.000 Well, look, the Democratic national selection process was pre-wired.

00:36:25.000 Their first real contest is South Carolina, where you have an absolute majority of African-American primary voters.

00:36:34.000 I have predicted for some time Joe has had the way cleared for him to win enough delegates to be nominated, but that would not stop him.

00:36:43.000 Just before the Democratic National Convention, which just happens to be in Chicago, to announce that he's decided not to run for reasons of health, throw the convention open to the selection of another candidate, Michelle Obama will say, oh, I'm not interested, I don't want it, I don't want it, no thank you, I don't want to do it, okay, I'll do it.

00:37:03.000 What'll happen is she'll say, oh no, no, no, I couldn't do it, and then you'll start hearing chants of, Michelle, Michelle, Michelle, and she'll smile, and then Brock will come out and he'll say, I think this nation needs a leader, and I'm gonna ask you right now, here on stage, to take this responsibility for this country and answer the call, and she's gonna wipe away a tear and say, I'll do it.

00:37:29.000 He'll feign becoming like the biggest beta male on earth.

00:37:32.000 He'll be like, I am the first man.

00:37:33.000 I am the first man.

00:37:37.000 I've been predicting this openly for two years.

00:37:40.000 I see Bill O'Reilly had a column today.

00:37:42.000 I still think she will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. 0.90

00:37:45.000 By the way, I think she'll be a very strong, formidable candidate.

00:37:49.000 People who make jokes about it are making a gigantic mistake.

00:37:52.000 I agree.

00:37:53.000 Like a year ago, that's why I pegged too.

00:37:55.000 I mean, she's got the biggest star name. 0.97

00:37:57.000 She's got the Obama name. 1.00

00:37:58.000 Superstar.

00:37:59.000 Non-political.

00:38:01.000 Not viewed as political.

00:38:02.000 One of the most admired women in the country.

00:38:05.000 I still think she will be their strongest possible candidate.

00:38:08.000 So we've had a bunch of predictions as to what we think may happen.

00:38:15.000 One prediction is that Nikki Haley is in the bag for Democrats.

00:38:18.000 She's getting Democrat votes and supporters and voters. 1.00

00:38:22.000 She's getting voters and donors. 1.00

00:38:24.000 And one of the ideas that Vivek brought up, which I thought was good, is why actually try and win a contest in November when all you have to do is try and supplant Trump in the primary with someone like Nikki Haley, who is an establishment favorite as well?

00:38:38.000 Now, I don't know how likely that's going to be.

00:38:41.000 It looks like she's going to get just wiped out and then she doesn't have any opportunity to move forward, especially with the Sanderson-Vivek now being out of the race.

00:38:47.000 It's just her.

00:38:48.000 She's not going anywhere.

00:38:49.000 But then you have the potential of, or the question that we've brought up, I've been saying this for some time that Biden will not be the nominee.

00:38:56.000 I think he is going to drop out.

00:38:57.000 I think it's going to be health reasons.

00:38:58.000 A JPMorgan strategist believes that come March around Super Tuesday, Biden will announce he's dropping out.

00:39:03.000 This opens the door.

00:39:05.000 So many people countered saying, no, they can't, Tim.

00:39:08.000 It's too late for a primary.

00:39:10.000 And the response is, that's perfect.

00:39:13.000 It allows them to avoid a Bernie Sanders situation, or a Marianne Williamson or RFK situation.

00:39:20.000 It allows them to stop any of these candidates from gaining traction and gaining delegates, so that when they, as you describe, Roger, Biden drops out, they can just, at an open convention, super delegate Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom.

00:39:32.000 Yeah, they can control the convention that way, but Kamala Harris is a problem for them because in any normal scenario, she'd be next in line. 1.00

00:39:44.000 She's a sitting vice president, but they also fear she can't win an election either.

00:39:50.000 That would be correct.

00:39:51.000 And within the construct of their party, she represents a very important constituency.

00:39:57.000 She's a woman of color.

00:39:59.000 So how do you justify bypassing her?

00:40:01.000 I think the answer is Barack Obama persuades her that when the first Supreme Court nomination becomes available, if they win the presidency and control of the Senate, she's a former Attorney General of California, she gets that job, she graciously steps aside, and we have a ticket that is comprised of Michelle Obama for President and Gavin Newsom for Vice President, and Gavin can raise hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of special interest dollars for that ticket.

00:40:30.000 That's a good backroom explanation.

00:40:32.000 Kamala Harris will be offered a Supreme Court seat, but they're not going to publicly say that.

00:40:37.000 I think it's actually really, really simple.

00:40:38.000 A lot of people said, how do you get past Kamala Harris?

00:40:41.000 It's really simple.

00:40:42.000 Joe Biden announces he's stepping down or he's suffering a health issue.

00:40:46.000 Kamala Harris, I think there could be an instance where Joe Biden actually says, I can no longer perform my duties.

00:40:53.000 I need Kamala to serve as acting president. 1.00

00:40:55.000 Kamala simply says, I will not try to seek a presidency when I'm filling this role.

00:41:01.000 It would be irresponsible or, you know, it would be wrong to try and win an election this late in the game.

00:41:09.000 I'll just do my duties and then bow out.

00:41:11.000 Here's why I don't think that happens.

00:41:12.000 I think Joe needs to maintain the legal authority to pardon his son and his brother and himself and the other members of the Biden crime family.

00:41:22.000 He's wanted this job his entire life.

00:41:25.000 I don't think Dr. Jill's anxious to go by any means.

00:41:28.000 So I think I once thought, I once agreed with you.

00:41:32.000 I thought that he left early.

00:41:33.000 I don't think he leaves early.

00:41:34.000 I think he fills out the term, but just doesn't run.

00:41:37.000 I mean, they're all one big happy family tree, son.

00:41:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:41.000 Committing treason.

00:41:41.000 So, uh, I'm half kidding.

00:41:43.000 Why wouldn't he just, along with his cronies, go to Kamala and say, uh, look, pardon Hunter, me, and anybody else.

00:41:50.000 I'll bow out two months, three months, four months, or whatever.

00:41:53.000 It's all yours.

00:41:54.000 Because it would eradicate her political career. 0.99

00:41:56.000 No!

00:41:56.000 She gets to be the first female president.

00:41:58.000 Well, if she pardoned all those people, it'd be like a taint on her life for the next 30 or 40 years.

00:42:02.000 Oh, bro.

00:42:03.000 Biden's the fall guy.

00:42:04.000 It's not going to be politics.

00:42:05.000 It did cost Gerald Ford re-election.

00:42:09.000 By pardoning Nixon.

00:42:10.000 Had he not pardoned Nixon, I think he would have won.

00:42:12.000 He lost by a hair.

00:42:14.000 He lost a very close race.

00:42:16.000 And that was two years after Watergate.

00:42:17.000 I mean, think about it.

00:42:18.000 Come on.

00:42:18.000 They go to Kamala and say, how would you like to be the first female president in history?

00:42:23.000 Your name will never be forgotten.

00:42:25.000 All you got to do, pardon the Biden crime family.

00:42:28.000 You're not going to run for re-election.

00:42:31.000 We'll then move you to a Supreme Court seat or something like this, but you will be in the history books forever.

00:42:35.000 She says, deal.

00:42:37.000 Who would not want their name to be on that plaque?

00:42:40.000 Do you risk voters who are wanting the new Democratic nominee to be a woman of color,

00:42:46.000 like splitting the votes at any convention between her and Michelle Obama if you do that? 0.89

00:42:51.000 I suppose there is the argument that if Michelle Obama is the nominee,

00:42:55.000 they would be saying this could be the first woman of color to ever be president.

00:42:59.000 You have to vote for her and then try and go for the woke angle. 0.86

00:43:02.000 That's true.

00:43:02.000 And then you've already done it with Kamala.

00:43:04.000 Right.

00:43:04.000 So you burn that one out.

00:43:06.000 But you know, how do you publicly get past Kamala Harris?

00:43:13.000 They've really created an obstacle for themselves, which is sort of hilarious, because I think when they started they really thought, maybe she can be the heir apparent, maybe it'll be fine, which is crazy.

00:43:22.000 I don't think they thought that. 0.60

00:43:23.000 I think they were like, we can't have stodgy old white men with all these progressives. 0.92

00:43:26.000 You need a woman of color in there somewhere. 1.00

00:43:27.000 Yeah, I think she doesn't even know why she's there.

00:43:29.000 I actually think Biden accidentally painted himself in a corner.

00:43:32.000 I don't think it was in the plan.

00:43:33.000 He blurted out, I'm going to have a vice president who's going to be a woman of color. 1.00

00:43:37.000 He just said it.

00:43:38.000 Is that illegal?

00:43:40.000 Violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:43:42.000 We hadn't overturned affirmative action at that point.

00:43:46.000 It's been driving me a little sideways regarding the Supreme Court.

00:43:49.000 You mentioned that the Obamas might go to Kamala Harris and be like, well, we would consider you for the Supreme Court or that they would just put her in the Supreme Court. 0.95

00:43:56.000 Do we have nine people making decisions for the entire state of Texas?

00:44:01.000 I appreciate what it's done and how it stands and how it questions the legislature and how it can overturn presidential authority and stuff.

00:44:08.000 Giving this kind of mass authority to nine people that are appointed.

00:44:12.000 They're not even voted into office.

00:44:14.000 They're appointed by some political zealot, some president.

00:44:17.000 And then confirmed.

00:44:18.000 Like, that's so much power for such a small group of people.

00:44:22.000 I don't know.

00:44:23.000 It's great.

00:44:23.000 I love it.

00:44:24.000 I think it's beautiful.

00:44:25.000 It's one of the brilliant things in the U.S.

00:44:27.000 Constitution.

00:44:28.000 Yeah, one of the smartest things.

00:44:29.000 As long as the court is indeed not politicized.

00:44:32.000 And then when a politicized person gets appointed, they're there for life?

00:44:36.000 That should be overturned.

00:44:37.000 There should be term limits or something.

00:44:39.000 One of the smartest political creations of mankind is the American form of government.

00:44:44.000 And we take it for granted because we grew up in it.

00:44:46.000 But when the Founding Fathers were trying to put together this system, they really did make the best that has been so far.

00:44:53.000 Can it be better?

00:44:54.000 Always.

00:44:54.000 There are ways to improve.

00:44:55.000 That's why the Constitution can be amended.

00:44:57.000 So, are there faults?

00:44:59.000 Can we improve?

00:44:59.000 We always can, we always should look for ways to do so.

00:45:02.000 But at the time, the American system of government is a masterpiece.

00:45:07.000 And to this day, still stands as the best form of government in the world.

00:45:10.000 And when the Supreme Court ruled against some aspects of the New Deal, Franklin Roosevelt tried exactly that, to expand the court, to pack the court.

00:45:19.000 It did not go over well, and he failed.

00:45:20.000 What did he do?

00:45:22.000 He put forward a proposal to expand the court, and it was defeated in the Senate.

00:45:26.000 So there were nine then, there's nine now.

00:45:29.000 There's nine then, there's nine now.

00:45:31.000 He wanted more.

00:45:32.000 The argument is that, what do we have, 12 districts?

00:45:35.000 How many?

00:45:35.000 I think that's right.

00:45:36.000 Appellate districts or whatever?

00:45:37.000 That there should be a judge for each region.

00:45:41.000 It's been so long since we've covered this stuff heavily.

00:45:44.000 But the reason why it's brilliant is, if you break it down to the most rudimentary of forms, you have a group of people who just declared independence.

00:45:53.000 You had the Articles of Confederation.

00:45:55.000 You did not have a constitution.

00:45:56.000 You had a very weak government.

00:45:57.000 And they're trying to figure out, like, how do we run this thing?

00:46:01.000 And then someone says, we should have a king.

00:46:03.000 George Washington should be king.

00:46:04.000 And they're like, no, no, no, we can't have a king because then George may be great, but what about his kids and his corruption?

00:46:09.000 Okay.

00:46:09.000 Well, what about like a direct democracy?

00:46:11.000 What if people just voted? 0.99

00:46:12.000 No, because then people vote for stupid things and you need some expertise in there. 1.00

00:46:16.000 Okay. 0.99

00:46:16.000 What about like a council of elders, appointed individuals who are of great standing within their communities. 0.99

00:46:21.000 And so you have a, how about all three?

00:46:24.000 How about we have a council of elders, a direct democracy, a representative democracy, or I should say a constitutional representative republic, and a strong executive.

00:46:34.000 We do all three, and we make them fight each other.

00:46:37.000 Checks and balances.

00:46:38.000 How about we don't just choose one of these governments we've seen before, we do all of them.

00:46:43.000 Yeah, but if we're actually talking about making Kamala Harris on our council of elders, Like what have we done to our national wisdom?

00:46:50.000 She's not someone I would think of as like an elder wise man.

00:46:53.000 This is the beauty of the system.

00:46:55.000 She would be eligible for appointment and subject to confirmation of the U.S.

00:46:58.000 Senate like any other citizen.

00:47:00.000 And a truly good system doesn't just always have God-tier perfect people running the show.

00:47:09.000 The idea that one Supreme Court justice is bad, I think, shows that there is flexibility within the system.

00:47:16.000 If we had a single monarch, sure, you have problems.

00:47:19.000 You're talking about Ketanji Brown Jackson?

00:47:22.000 How old is she? 0.98

00:47:22.000 Because you're talking about Council of Elders. 0.98

00:47:24.000 Like, what's her age?

00:47:24.000 Is she really wise?

00:47:25.000 It is a figure of speech, I'm saying.

00:47:28.000 It's not supposed to be, though.

00:47:29.000 It really is supposed to be the wisest among us that sit on the Supreme Court for life.

00:47:32.000 and people are chosen and then confirmed by the Senate.

00:47:34.000 And the problem here is the 17th Amendment should be, what are your thoughts on the 17th?

00:47:40.000 I think we should get rid of it.

00:47:41.000 I'm not, I think it was Ben Sasse who first proposed, not first, but...

00:47:46.000 What is the 17th?

00:47:46.000 That the Senate is chosen by popular vote in the states as opposed to

00:47:50.000 the state representatives.

00:47:51.000 It used to be done by the state legislatures.

00:47:54.000 The state legislatures would choose U.S.

00:47:55.000 senators.

00:47:57.000 And then they changed it so they were done by direct election.

00:48:00.000 And that's a mistake.

00:48:01.000 And this is what causes part of the problem.

00:48:04.000 When you have people voting locally for their state reps, those reps know about your local issues.

00:48:10.000 Your sitting member of Congress knows a little bit, but they're going to D.C.

00:48:14.000 and they're voting on war and omnibus spending bills or whatever. 0.98

00:48:18.000 So if you go and vote for a state senator or state rep and you say to them, you know, old Crossland Creek over there is full of garbage. 0.96

00:48:26.000 We need someone to get the job done.

00:48:27.000 They go, yeah, I've seen it because I live not too far away.

00:48:30.000 Local representation.

00:48:31.000 Then all of these people go to their session and say, who are we going to send to the federal government to represent our state?

00:48:40.000 And they will choose who they think the best person is.

00:48:43.000 This creates state representation as opposed to national Democrat representation.

00:48:49.000 So the problem now is the Democratic Party says, we want Democrats, we need statewide voting, and it's all about some federal policy as opposed to what's going on in your state, which results in senators who will confirm anybody so long as their party line shills.

00:49:03.000 Then you end up with a Katonji Brown who says, I don't know what a woman is. 1.00

00:49:08.000 It's like, oh wow.

00:49:09.000 So that's a problem.

00:49:10.000 I agree.

00:49:11.000 And sure, we should repeal the 17th. 0.95

00:49:13.000 I think with the internet.

00:49:14.000 I disagree.

00:49:15.000 I like the direct election of senators.

00:49:18.000 Otherwise, all you get are career politicians.

00:49:20.000 There never would ever be an opening for anyone else.

00:49:24.000 So the politicians basically choose the U.S.

00:49:27.000 senators.

00:49:28.000 There's a time in New Jersey when two brothers were U.S.

00:49:30.000 senators at the same time.

00:49:31.000 Why?

00:49:32.000 They were chosen by the New Jersey State Legislature back in the 20s.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, I get that.

00:49:38.000 I disagree.

00:49:40.000 I think if people, no one pays attention at all to state representation anymore.

00:49:45.000 And so now you get these ads, which are remarkable to me, where it is a person running for a federal house seat in Congress saying, if you vote for me, I'm going to fix our district and clean things up.

00:49:57.000 No, you're not.

00:49:58.000 You're going to go to D.C.

00:49:59.000 and represent the district to the federal government.

00:50:02.000 You're gonna vote on whether or not we bomb a country or how taxes are at the federal level.

00:50:06.000 You're not going to vote at all on how we deal with garbage in our city.

00:50:10.000 That's a local rep, a mayor, a councilman who does that.

00:50:14.000 People don't care anymore.

00:50:15.000 We could do like an addendum to the 17th amendment where like state governments will select their senators but then the citizens have to confirm them to the Senate via a vote and if they deny that then maybe the citizens could vote for their own Yeah.

00:50:31.000 What about, what about the state reps will select and it has to be confirmed by popular vote.

00:50:37.000 And then if it's overturned, then the populace can vote for someone they want.

00:50:41.000 If it's overturned, the state legislature has to go back and re-nominate and then approve another, somebody else.

00:50:46.000 I mean, that's a step.

00:50:47.000 I like that, like, no names like you were saying can come out of the side lane and be like, yo, the people love me and I'm the best for the job, even though the people at the state government don't know who I am.

00:50:55.000 And that person might get a shot at the Senate. 0.99

00:50:57.000 I like that too.

00:50:58.000 But I don't, you know.

00:51:00.000 I just don't think you'll ever get, you'd never get any outsiders elected.

00:51:03.000 You'd always get people who are part of the system.

00:51:05.000 Because if the state could just keep nominating insiders over and over, you have to keep saying no, no, no, no.

00:51:11.000 At some point, the population's got to be able to put their own person forward.

00:51:13.000 And there's always a family that's involved in state politics, or several of them in every state.

00:51:17.000 I mean, there's sort of a control, right?

00:51:20.000 Let's jump to some cultural news.

00:51:22.000 We have this story from scnr.com.

00:51:25.000 Dana White explains free speech to reporter.

00:51:28.000 Quote, free speech, brother.

00:51:30.000 People can say whatever they want, and they can believe whatever they want.

00:51:33.000 So, following the fight with Sean Strickland and Drikus Du Plessis, Sean had made several statements in the past about trans people and people who have gay kids and things like that.

00:51:48.000 He mostly called a reporter a weak man, who was the enemy.

00:51:53.000 He said that he was there to stand up for the people of Canada, F. Trudeau.

00:51:57.000 During the fight, people were chanting, F. Trudeau.

00:52:00.000 Joe Rogan said, Canada, get your ish together, man.

00:52:04.000 But I love the UFC fan base.

00:52:06.000 I love the fighters.

00:52:07.000 We saw Donald Trump come out at a UFC event, Madison Square Garden, with Kid Rock and Tucker Carlson.

00:52:13.000 The whole crowd in New York City screaming and cheering for these individuals.

00:52:18.000 It's beautiful!

00:52:19.000 And so I'm seeing this stuff, and I'm thinking, you know, I've never been super big on UFC stuff.

00:52:25.000 But with these guys willing to stand up for what they believe in, for the fans willing to stand up for what they believe in, I'm getting excited for this.

00:52:33.000 So Dana White comes out and they ask him, this reporter says, you obviously give a long leash to your fighters about what they can say when they are up there with the UFC microphone.

00:52:44.000 Dana Leash snaps back saying, I don't give a leash to anybody. 1.00

00:52:46.000 They can say whatever they want.

00:52:47.000 Now this is a sport I like.

00:52:50.000 I love that.

00:52:50.000 That's fantastic.

00:52:52.000 And then you get Sean Strickland, who was the champ.

00:52:55.000 I say was.

00:52:55.000 I think he still is.

00:52:57.000 And you have this split decision after the fight where they claim he lost the title.

00:53:02.000 And so this is generating quite a bit of controversy. 1.00

00:53:05.000 There's a lot of people saying, grow up, stop being a whiny little bitch. 1.00

00:53:09.000 He lost. 1.00

00:53:11.000 But I'll just put it this way, and then we can talk about it.

00:53:14.000 There's a conspiracy theory.

00:53:17.000 Of course people are going to suggest this, that the reason Strickland was lost was not because he was the worst fighter, but because he's causing problems for the brand.

00:53:26.000 So when people say to Dana White, you give your fighters a long leash, and then he says I don't give anybody a leash, Dana White actually said publicly he thought Strickland won the fight.

00:53:34.000 But there are people saying on Twitter, and I don't blame them, they're saying that when Bud Light comes and sponsors UFC, and one of the champs starts ragging on Bud Light and putting serious pressure on them, there's going to be pressure to get him out if they can.

00:53:49.000 To end the quote-unquote era of Strickland.

00:53:51.000 I don't know that I believe that.

00:53:52.000 All I can say is this.

00:53:54.000 I'm not a big UFC guy.

00:53:56.000 I don't know or care about points and scoring.

00:53:59.000 I get it exists.

00:54:00.000 All I can say is I get really excited when, you know, we've had Colby Covington here in the studio.

00:54:06.000 It was awesome to meet this guy.

00:54:07.000 Someone willing to stand up for Trump publicly with no fear because these fighters have balls and for Sean Strickland to defend the people of Canada wearing a Make Canada Great Again shirt.

00:54:17.000 I tremendously love and respect the defense of the working people by people in these positions who can speak up and have influence.

00:54:24.000 So I say, wow, I gotta watch this.

00:54:26.000 I want to see this guy fight.

00:54:27.000 He's the champ.

00:54:29.000 I watch a fight.

00:54:30.000 I watch a guy win a fight.

00:54:32.000 I watch them claim the other guy won the fight.

00:54:34.000 I don't get it.

00:54:35.000 I mean, I understand why they're claiming he lost. 1.00

00:54:39.000 I think it's the stupidest thing ever. 0.99

00:54:41.000 And it makes me feel like it's all fake. 1.00

00:54:44.000 I don't know.

00:54:45.000 I didn't see the fight.

00:54:46.000 You said he got knocked down five times?

00:54:48.000 No.

00:54:48.000 Strickland?

00:54:49.000 There were six takedowns, but I'll put it this way.

00:54:55.000 If I see two guys fighting in the street, it's like the average person looks at that and says, like, oh man, that guy's beating that guy up.

00:55:00.000 That's basically what happened here.

00:55:02.000 Strickland was beating the other guy up.

00:55:04.000 And then in the end, they're like, yeah, well, you know, he got knocked out a handful of times, and so the judges thought it went the other way, so we're giving the other guy the fight.

00:55:12.000 So the Supreme Court of MMA has ruled I gotta tell you, I went to the UFC fight with Donald Trump in Las Vegas several months ago.

00:55:22.000 It was an extraordinary experience.

00:55:23.000 First of all, never has there been this much testosterone in one hall any place in the country.

00:55:30.000 I mean, it was an all-American extravaganza. 0.86

00:55:35.000 Nobody was snacking on tofu, if you know what I mean.

00:55:40.000 And the reaction that Trump got was extraordinary, just extraordinary.

00:55:45.000 Now, I'm a big fan of Colby Covington.

00:55:48.000 I still haven't gotten over the fact that he lost, but you know what?

00:55:52.000 He'll be back.

00:55:54.000 His greatest victories lie ahead.

00:55:56.000 That guy's got guts, and I'm absolutely convinced that he comes back.

00:56:00.000 I completely agree.

00:56:03.000 That was another one of these fights.

00:56:04.000 So with Colby, I was thinking he may actually have taken it in the last round, but again, like, I don't know.

00:56:11.000 I'm like, for me, I watched that fight and I'm like, honestly, I have no idea.

00:56:14.000 In the end, he, like the final round, Colby absolutely, you know, I think he won that final round.

00:56:21.000 And then he said he thought he won the fight too.

00:56:23.000 Watching the Strickland fight, I just, that guy won a fight!

00:56:27.000 I feel like this is the kind of thing that Strickland will just be like, and now I'm more motivated than ever to do anything I can to to be victorious.

00:56:34.000 I mean, I've only heard him interviewed a couple times.

00:56:36.000 I haven't watched UFC consistently in years, but he's a really tenacious person and he is very strong.

00:56:42.000 He's a very strong sense of self.

00:56:43.000 And I think that really drives his desire to compete.

00:56:46.000 And I think that's actually why so many people like him.

00:56:49.000 Yes, his takes are kind of interesting and not what you expect, but more than anything, he is a person of intense conviction.

00:56:55.000 But as for, I really like and trust Dana White.

00:57:00.000 So there's no way in the world he would wire a fight.

00:57:03.000 I never understood their, you know, their scoring system.

00:57:07.000 I saw the same fight you did.

00:57:08.000 I thought Strickland won.

00:57:10.000 But what do I know?

00:57:11.000 I'm not one of the judges.

00:57:12.000 Look at this.

00:57:12.000 All that matters is Joe Rogan.

00:57:14.000 He apparently agrees, so I defer to him.

00:57:17.000 And if Dana White also thought— The story from MMA Junkie, Joe Rogan surprised judges awarded Drikus Du Plessis win over Sean Strickland.

00:57:24.000 It's an amazing clip, I watched it.

00:57:26.000 Rogan normally is commentating on these fights, and when the ruling came down, he says, wow, interesting.

00:57:35.000 Very interesting.

00:57:35.000 I wonder how the people online feel about that, because we're not scoring it while we're watching it.

00:57:39.000 We're just having fun.

00:57:40.000 Were we wrong?

00:57:41.000 That's exactly how I felt when I watched this.

00:57:45.000 I'm like, dude, I bought this pay-per-view thing.

00:57:47.000 I'm super excited to support Sean Strickland.

00:57:49.000 He's standing up for the little guy.

00:57:51.000 It's exactly what we want to see in these sports.

00:57:53.000 I watch a fight.

00:57:55.000 I watched this guy win.

00:57:56.000 It was close.

00:57:57.000 Du Plessis is amazing.

00:57:58.000 It was a really awesome fight.

00:58:00.000 Strickland, his eyes covered in blood.

00:58:02.000 It was good.

00:58:04.000 And then they're just like, nah, he loses.

00:58:06.000 And I'm like, what?

00:58:07.000 Man?

00:58:08.000 So, I don't know, dude.

00:58:10.000 I'm just... I don't understand it, I guess.

00:58:12.000 We have this from VerdictMMA.com, a lot of people were sending me, where you've got a couple different metrics by which the fight was judged and scored, and it looks like the media scored it for Strickland, but the judges went the other direction on it.

00:58:27.000 So it is what it is, man.

00:58:29.000 I don't think it was a, I don't believe that it was rigged in the sense that like Dana White had anything to do with it.

00:58:33.000 Dana White publicly stated he thought Strickland won too.

00:58:36.000 Yeah, that indicates there's going to be a rematch.

00:58:38.000 Rogan said that.

00:58:39.000 They're going to create some animosity between the two fighters.

00:58:41.000 Think of the box office on that.

00:58:43.000 Yes.

00:58:44.000 So, I say, I say, shenanigans, it sucks, whatever, he got robbed, people are like, he didn't get robbed, he just lost, I'm like, that's what it means.

00:58:52.000 Like, it was a close fight, we get that, they gave to the other guy, he was robbed, meaning it should have slightly gone the other direction, but a rematch could be really good.

00:59:00.000 in that everything Strickland got to say will be amplified tenfold when we start building up to a

00:59:05.000 potential rematch, which I really hope happens. Yeah, I was thinking about the bread and circus.

00:59:09.000 They say in failing empires, the empire gives its citizens bread and circus in order to keep

00:59:14.000 them distracted and fed so they don't riot. And then they just... And so this is the circus aspect.

00:59:19.000 But the difference is that we've got mass media and internet video, like Sean Strickland can make

00:59:23.000 a video and like alter the minds of the masses in a day. I don't...

00:59:28.000 The Romans didn't have, the gladiators didn't have that kind of influence on society. 0.79

00:59:31.000 Or their own Instagram pages where they can post clips or them working out.

00:59:35.000 I mean like people become really devoted to a lot of athletes but definitely UFC athletes who are just like They personify something they aspire to be, right?

00:59:42.000 They're tough, they're strong, they're like peak physical fitness.

00:59:45.000 And this is a day and age where you can feel like a personal relationship to these athletes in a way that you never have before.

00:59:51.000 It's crazy.

00:59:52.000 When we had Colby Covington on, I had a lot of people being like, oh man, because he's such a wild guy.

00:59:58.000 And then he shows up and he's the nicest, most polite, honorable guy.

01:00:01.000 And people didn't understand that, right?

01:00:05.000 That he's out there He's being a personality.

01:00:09.000 But he's a good regular dude.

01:00:12.000 He knows what he's doing.

01:00:12.000 He's a smart guy.

01:00:14.000 I'm a big fan.

01:00:15.000 And it was really awesome to get to meet him.

01:00:17.000 But I appreciate when... You know, I see all the time... Let me put it this way.

01:00:23.000 Why I like UFC so much.

01:00:25.000 I've been skateboarding my whole life.

01:00:26.000 I was skateboarding earlier today.

01:00:27.000 Tried to do a kickflip, pivot, slipped out.

01:00:29.000 It was fun.

01:00:29.000 Didn't land it.

01:00:31.000 All these pro skateboarders will hit me up being like, I'm a big fan of your show, man, but I can't say anything because I'll get fired or whatever.

01:00:37.000 I'm so scared.

01:00:38.000 And I'm like, man, it's like these guys who jump off buildings for a living, their balls dropped off. 0.75

01:00:45.000 And then I see Colby Covington and Strickland, and I'm like, these guys will shut to the high heavens. 0.99

01:00:49.000 F you.

01:00:50.000 I'll say whatever I feel like saying.

01:00:51.000 Now that inspires me.

01:00:54.000 And I'm like, these guys are great.

01:00:55.000 So, I like what UFC is doing.

01:00:57.000 As you mentioned, more testosterone.

01:00:59.000 What do you say?

01:01:00.000 It's the most testosterone I've ever seen in one place at one time.

01:01:03.000 I'm looking forward to seeing more of these guys.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, but cultural victories, I guess, right?

01:01:09.000 The fact that Trump can walk out in a urban Democrat stronghold and have the whole crowd cheering for him, this is, you know... It was pandemonium.

01:01:19.000 It wasn't just cheering.

01:01:20.000 He turned the place upside down.

01:01:22.000 It was absolute ear-splitting pandemonium.

01:01:25.000 That's awesome.

01:01:25.000 I think he's the most famous guy on earth right now.

01:01:28.000 He is.

01:01:29.000 Yeah.

01:01:30.000 Well, and people, I mean, look, I've known him a long time.

01:01:33.000 I'm not allowed to say how old because he says it makes us both sound old.

01:01:36.000 But the guy's energy level is just extraordinary.

01:01:40.000 I mean, he always required very little sleep.

01:01:44.000 But through all of this, and I talked to him Sunday, he's upbeat, he's resolute, he's determined, he's extraordinarily confident, he's in a great mood, and he's surviving on not much sleep.

01:01:59.000 Because remember, he wins the Iowa caucuses, then he has to fly, landing in New York City at 3.30 in the morning, appear in court the next day, through the afternoon, then fly back to New Hampshire, do a rally, then fly back to New York to appear in court in the morning.

01:02:14.000 I mean, he's 77 years old, but he's got the stamina of a 26-year-old.

01:02:21.000 Were you friends way back?

01:02:22.000 Were you guys friends in business or were you just friends?

01:02:25.000 I met him in 1979 when I recruited he and his father for the finance chairman to be members of the finance committee for Ronald Reagan's campaign for President of the United States in New York State.

01:02:38.000 That's how we met.

01:02:39.000 And they both joined Reagan's finance committee?

01:02:41.000 They both joined and raised substantial money for it.

01:02:43.000 Was that Don's first foray into politics?

01:02:46.000 You know, if you're a New York City developer, you're always in politics and you cover both sides.

01:02:51.000 Remember, the city's dominated by Democrats and Democrats control stuff like permitting and zoning.

01:02:58.000 So Donald was friendly with all politicians of both parties.

01:03:05.000 The first person In the country, really to suggest that Trump should run for president was Richard Nixon.

01:03:12.000 Nixon's in exile.

01:03:14.000 He is a friend of George Steinbrenner, who owns the New York Yankees.

01:03:18.000 He and Trump meet in Steinbrenner's box.

01:03:22.000 Nixon knows I'd done some work for Trump.

01:03:24.000 Trump knows I'm close to Nixon.

01:03:25.000 Nixon calls me the next day.

01:03:27.000 Well, I met your man, sir.

01:03:30.000 This guy could go all the way.

01:03:33.000 I'm saying, oh, you're saying he should run for governor?

01:03:34.000 No, no, no.

01:03:35.000 I said all the way.

01:03:37.000 And then there's a famous letter which Nixon sits in and hand writes to Trump telling him he should run for president.

01:03:42.000 The New York Times has published it.

01:03:43.000 What year was it?

01:03:45.000 It's had to be 80s, around 89?

01:03:47.000 Well, there's that, uh, 87?

01:03:48.000 What is it, like he was on Oprah or something and he gets asked if he's going to run for president?

01:03:53.000 Yes.

01:03:53.000 And you know what he says?

01:03:55.000 Probably not.

01:03:56.000 Probably not.

01:03:57.000 Unless things got so bad that I had no choice.

01:04:00.000 Yeah.

01:04:00.000 And we came to that point.

01:04:02.000 I didn't know we were at that point in 2012.

01:04:04.000 I just thought stuff was a little crazy, but I didn't realize that the liberal economic order was morphing into this new world order, that it had been planned for 30 or 40 years, and I had no idea.

01:04:16.000 Well, in retrospect, we still weren't quite at that moment.

01:04:19.000 So in 2012, he, I think, reluctantly endorsed Mitt Romney.

01:04:25.000 He almost immediately had Sellers' remorse.

01:04:28.000 Every time there's a debate, he would call me and say, what's wrong with this guy?

01:04:32.000 He's got no instinct for the jugular.

01:04:34.000 And then it was New Year's Day of 2013 when he said, I've applied to the patent and trademark office to trademark the phrase, Make America Great Again.

01:04:46.000 What year was that?

01:04:48.000 2013?

01:04:48.000 Yeah.

01:04:48.000 So I knew he was running in 2016.

01:04:51.000 Michael Moore tried claiming that Trump didn't actually want to run.

01:04:55.000 It was, did you see that documentary he did, Fahrenheit 11-9?

01:04:58.000 And he's saying something, was it Gwen Stefani or something like this?

01:05:01.000 Like someone got a bigger NBC contract than Trump and Trump was offended because he's the big shot, he's the apprentice.

01:05:08.000 So he decided he would run for president just to bolster his recognition and then try and get a better contract, but then he accidentally won.

01:05:16.000 It's the most insane thing.

01:05:18.000 Michael Moore, what were you thinking?

01:05:20.000 The dude, you say he trademarked MAGA.

01:05:23.000 Right.

01:05:23.000 Years in advance.

01:05:25.000 Everybody knew this was coming.

01:05:26.000 But look, he talked about running in 2000.

01:05:29.000 He talked about running in 1988, the first time he went to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where he was two nights ago.

01:05:36.000 to speak to the Portsmouth Chamber of Commerce.

01:05:38.000 The first time there was speculation about him running.

01:05:41.000 He was nowhere near ready.

01:05:42.000 I don't think he was that, he wasn't that serious about it, but he wanted to kind of test the waters.

01:05:48.000 Then he looked at it again in 2000.

01:05:50.000 Jesse Ventura, who had become governor of Minnesota, had been obviously a very famous wrestler, urged him to do it.

01:05:58.000 Ross Perot, His fellow billionaire urged him to do it.

01:06:02.000 He still wasn't ready.

01:06:03.000 I think he toyed with it, but he never ran.

01:06:06.000 By the way, he won the Reform Party primaries in Michigan and California weeks after withdrawing

01:06:12.000 as a candidate and saying definitively he would not be a candidate.

01:06:16.000 He looked at it seriously again in 2012.

01:06:18.000 The reporters all insisted.

01:06:20.000 He's just burnishing the brand.

01:06:22.000 He's never really going to run.

01:06:23.000 This is all great PR genius.

01:06:25.000 I think he was always seriously interested.

01:06:28.000 He was waiting for the right time.

01:06:30.000 2016 turned out to be the right time.

01:06:32.000 And isn't that better?

01:06:32.000 I mean, if what he said on Oprah, he's thinking about it, if he needed to run, then he would.

01:06:37.000 I think that's much more of the like servant leadership that people don't actually give Trump credit for.

01:06:42.000 It wasn't about his ego.

01:06:43.000 It was about saying, I can actually change something.

01:06:45.000 I can make a difference here.

01:06:47.000 It's cost him hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:06:49.000 He was universally liked.

01:06:52.000 Now he's a polarizing figure.

01:06:54.000 It's cost him millions in legal fees.

01:06:56.000 He's put up with an enormous amount of vituperation attacks on his family.

01:07:01.000 He's doing it because he loves the country.

01:07:03.000 He's not doing it because he needs more name ID.

01:07:07.000 The first Trump term was a magical time, despite the cinder blocks they duct taped to Trump's feet.

01:07:15.000 It was it was a great time.

01:07:17.000 I mean, economically, especially.

01:07:19.000 And of course, 2020, things got wonky, but I don't blame Trump for that.

01:07:23.000 And then you have the Biden years, and these past three and a half years have been miserable.

01:07:30.000 It's just been... It's been atrophy. 0.51

01:07:34.000 2016 to 20 was like agitation.

01:07:39.000 You can use agitation to grow muscle.

01:07:41.000 You know, you agitate the system to cause a growth response, or you cause an immune response.

01:07:45.000 You cause a lot of things with agitation.

01:07:47.000 But lately, it's just felt like it's falling apart.

01:07:49.000 That's wasting away.

01:07:50.000 There's no...

01:07:53.000 I don't know.

01:07:54.000 It's a very hopeless time, especially if you're a young voter in this country.

01:07:56.000 Which is why once again he's exactly the right man at the right time.

01:07:59.000 People who don't know him just have no idea how tough this guy is.

01:08:03.000 He's extraordinarily tough.

01:08:06.000 I worked for Richard Nixon.

01:08:07.000 Very tough guy.

01:08:08.000 Greatest political comeback in American political history.

01:08:11.000 I work for Senator Bob Dole, another tough guy.

01:08:13.000 He got hit by a shell in World War II.

01:08:15.000 They told him he'd never walk again, never have the use of it.

01:08:18.000 He nursed himself back to health to a Senate career and to win a presidential nomination.

01:08:22.000 One of the greatest men of the 20th century.

01:08:24.000 Those guys were both very, very tough guys.

01:08:27.000 Trump is tougher than either one of them.

01:08:28.000 You got into politics during the Nixon era?

01:08:32.000 Yes, that was my first boss.

01:08:33.000 What got you involved in it?

01:08:34.000 Well, actually I was originally a Goldwater zealot when I was 12 years old.

01:08:38.000 I read the book Conscience of a Conservative and I realized that I was an anti-communist who believed in personal freedom and small government and a strong national defense and privacy.

01:08:52.000 And then when Goldwater lost, I was crushed.

01:08:55.000 Because I was 12 years old.

01:08:56.000 What the hell do you know when you're 12 years old?

01:08:57.000 And then I started reading about Nixon and I concluded that he had been robbed of the 1960 election.

01:09:05.000 So I wrote him a letter when he was in exile, practicing law on Wall Street.

01:09:09.000 I told him if he ever ran again, I wanted to sign up.

01:09:13.000 And they kept my letter on file for two years.

01:09:15.000 And then when he decided to make a comeback, I got a call asking me if I wanted to come in and interview for a job.

01:09:21.000 You were in your 20s?

01:09:22.000 I was a little surprised when I was 16 years old.

01:09:24.000 You were 16?

01:09:25.000 Yeah, at that point.

01:09:26.000 But you got the job?

01:09:27.000 As a gopher, yeah.

01:09:28.000 I want to talk about this story from the Hill.

01:09:32.000 We've talked about it quite a bit, but I do want to bring it up in another context because we're talking right now about what life was like in the Trump era.

01:09:38.000 We're talking, you know, 2017 into the beginning of 2021.

01:09:43.000 And right now we keep seeing these stories pop up.

01:09:44.000 This one's from a month ago, of course, that Trump is getting a big boost with younger voters.

01:09:49.000 We're now seeing another story that Gen Z groups are panicking and trying to buy up domains that support Trump to trick Trump supporting young people into not supporting him. 0.60

01:09:59.000 That's how panicked the Democrats are.

01:10:01.000 And I saw this video today of a micro apartment in New York City.

01:10:05.000 It's, you know, 60, 70 square feet.

01:10:08.000 It has no bathroom.

01:10:09.000 It has no kitchen.

01:10:09.000 It has a sink.

01:10:11.000 And it is a like five and a half foot by 10 foot corridor with a door.

01:10:18.000 And I think young people are starting to understand it.

01:10:21.000 When New York City offers up free housing for illegal immigrants, free healthcare for illegal immigrants, and you, a young person, entering the workforce, entering adulthood, can't afford an apartment and can't afford healthcare, you start to wonder what it is the Democrats are doing and why they are doing it to you.

01:10:38.000 And when Donald Trump was president, things were a whole lot better.

01:10:42.000 The economy was booming.

01:10:43.000 Jim Cramer, for all of his failed predictions, said the best numbers of our lives pertaining to unemployment, economic growth, etc.

01:10:51.000 Now under Joe Biden, it's been misery.

01:10:54.000 Young people are excited about living in pods. 1.00

01:10:58.000 They've got these in San Francisco.

01:10:59.000 You can live in this big room with like, what is it, three by three pods?

01:11:05.000 And you can climb into your designated tube, which is, you know, each pod is like four feet, you know, square.

01:11:12.000 It's like a twin size bed, basically.

01:11:15.000 Not even.

01:11:15.000 Are you serious?

01:11:15.000 Have you seen these tubes?

01:11:16.000 I mean, like, approximately.

01:11:18.000 It's not fully... They cannot fit a twin size bed.

01:11:20.000 You don't think so?

01:11:20.000 These pods, where you go into a big room, and it's four feet tall, four feet wide, and ten feet deep.

01:11:27.000 You can lay down on an air mattress in that thing if you're lucky.

01:11:31.000 That's how small they are.

01:11:33.000 And they're advertising, these are the cubbies you can live in.

01:11:36.000 You can live in... This is what young people have to look forward to.

01:11:39.000 So it's not surprising to me that many of them joke all day and night on social media.

01:11:43.000 They have memes about killing themselves.

01:11:45.000 Because they're like, haha, what's the point of living?

01:11:48.000 I think one of the big reasons many are starting to vote for Trump is because they can see the writing on the wall.

01:11:53.000 They understand.

01:11:54.000 Biden is bad.

01:11:55.000 He will make life hard for you.

01:11:57.000 Trump is an open door with light at the end of the tunnel.

01:12:00.000 It's the migrancy crisis, man.

01:12:02.000 And this idea that sometimes your leader needs to be cruel, perceivably cruel to those out there, so that you in here can prosper.

01:12:10.000 And like, sorry, at some point, like, there's always, they're always going to make more people.

01:12:14.000 So there's always going to be more of them out there.

01:12:16.000 And I need to protect my society.

01:12:19.000 I've for ages thought differently that we could protect everybody.

01:12:23.000 But the reality is, that's why we build walls.

01:12:25.000 These young voters are inside this big mansion that is the United States.

01:12:31.000 They don't have a bedroom.

01:12:33.000 They're not getting any food.

01:12:34.000 And they're asking, why is it that we are here giving our money and working in this place?

01:12:39.000 And what are the Democrats doing?

01:12:40.000 Opening the door and letting strange people come in and eat all the food.

01:12:43.000 Young people can see that.

01:12:44.000 And take the jobs that young people need. 0.99

01:12:47.000 I think it's about economic opportunity.

01:12:48.000 What's the point of going to college, racking up a debt to do so, and then when you get out of college there are no jobs available?

01:12:56.000 But your student loans, you can't go bankrupt on your student loans, and they're issuing them forever and ever and ever.

01:13:00.000 I mean, I think economic opportunity is ultimately going to change young voters from left-leaning.

01:13:08.000 You know, everyone says that when you're young, you're a Democrat, and when you're old, you're a conservative.

01:13:11.000 I was never a Democrat.

01:13:13.000 And I think part of it is the life that people want to leave is not sustainable under Biden.

01:13:18.000 I mean, even if you did want to live in a city and, you know, live in the box and do whatever, you know, you can't.

01:13:23.000 And I think more and more young people are starting to see that and saying, Actually, I want to own land.

01:13:27.000 Actually, I don't want to be dependent on anyone else.

01:13:28.000 Actually, the things that I think will sustain me long term line up with a different group of people than are traditionally pushed on me.

01:13:39.000 Yes.

01:13:40.000 Yeah, it's a big cultural shift.

01:13:41.000 That's what I like about the youngest generation, which is like, they are this weird mix of super hopeless people, but then some of them are extremely motivated to be different.

01:13:49.000 We'll see these waves of young people who are saying, I don't want these things.

01:13:52.000 I want to live differently.

01:13:53.000 And I have always credited it a lot to Like the emergence of homeschooling as a dominant force in America.

01:13:59.000 I think that people being more invested in their education and challenging sort of status quo teaching has really ignited a powerful energy among these young voters who are coming down the pike.

01:14:11.000 But to a certain extent, they have to be met with some positive reinforcement.

01:14:16.000 And that's why a Trump presidency is so interesting right now, because if you could give them the chance to have economic prosperity, they would really cement the culture they're drifting towards.

01:14:24.000 I mean also, I'll just be honest, Trump is the more punk rock candidate that they have to choose from.

01:14:32.000 And even if you're, if like, if their attitude really was that they believe Trump is the apocalypse, But they're making memes all day and night about burning everything down and killing themselves, then they'd also be voting for Trump too.

01:14:45.000 So it's just, there's nothing Joe Biden has to offer.

01:14:48.000 Donald Trump is the guy who gives the middle finger to the press, mocks the system, and he's got that youthful exuberance.

01:14:56.000 So in terms of wanting to just screw the system over, It's Trump.

01:15:01.000 Trump's the anti-establishment.

01:15:02.000 It's also his, I know his friends, a lot of his friends and family and like people, they seem genuinely interested in technology.

01:15:08.000 I haven't been pinged by the Biden industry to be like, yo, what's the solution here?

01:15:13.000 The solution is graphene and hydrogen.

01:15:15.000 We can alter our fuel system so that we're using hydrogen fuel.

01:15:19.000 In addition to oil, carbon-based fuel.

01:15:21.000 I'm not having this, Ian.

01:15:23.000 Increase our GDP by 10 times.

01:15:25.000 I'm not having this, okay?

01:15:26.000 You're supposed to be promoting graphene, now you're switching to hydrogen fuel.

01:15:30.000 It's a part-and-parcel package.

01:15:31.000 Have you heard of graphene before?

01:15:33.000 Yes. 1.00

01:15:33.000 Yeah, this shit's, dude, fuck. 1.00

01:15:34.000 This is gonna be the 21st century building material. 1.00

01:15:36.000 We're gonna be pumping this shit out of Rice University. 1.00

01:15:40.000 They figured out how to hit carbon trash with a laser. 1.00

01:15:43.000 Actually, with electricity.

01:15:44.000 They'll take any carbon, they'll run a 7,000 degree current through it, turn it into Black powder.

01:15:48.000 Graphene.

01:15:48.000 He desperately wants you to tell Trump to embrace graphene.

01:15:51.000 That's why he's saying this.

01:15:52.000 It's a solution.

01:15:53.000 It's a materials solution.

01:15:55.000 And it'll alleviate the sector of the copper industry that we rely on.

01:16:00.000 Let's bring this into practical terms.

01:16:02.000 The steel industry.

01:16:04.000 Are you working directly with the Trump campaign?

01:16:07.000 Not in a formal capacity, but I'm certainly helping Donald Trump.

01:16:10.000 I think he's the peace and prosperity candidate.

01:16:12.000 I agree.

01:16:13.000 I mean, those are your two crucial issues beyond immigration.

01:16:17.000 We are loping closer and closer to a world war, both in the Russia-Ukraine situation and in the Middle East.

01:16:27.000 Donald Trump could solve both of those issues relatively quickly.

01:16:30.000 But domestically?

01:16:34.000 We've got the immigration problem, and we're wasting money in Ukraine, which affects us domestically, but what do you see Trump doing in terms of manufacturing and in terms of lower skilled labor for American citizens?

01:16:46.000 First of all, drill, baby, drill.

01:16:47.000 We gotta go back to the fact that there's enough black gold.

01:16:50.000 There's enough coal, enough natural gas under our own feet to fuel the country for a hundred years.

01:16:57.000 We're back to having to beg the Venezuelans or the Russians or others for fuel.

01:17:02.000 This makes no sense at all.

01:17:04.000 Every president in my lifetime has promised us energy independence and none of them delivered.

01:17:10.000 Donald Trump delivered.

01:17:11.000 It is the keystone to a booming economy.

01:17:14.000 It's the first thing he has to do.

01:17:16.000 First thing he will do.

01:17:17.000 Yeah.

01:17:19.000 Can I ask, how do you think Trump is going to handle criticisms he has about COVID?

01:17:23.000 When COVID first hit us, we didn't know what was going on.

01:17:27.000 There were the initial lockdowns.

01:17:28.000 I think this is something that a lot of never-Trumpers or Democrats or even moderates have questions about.

01:17:33.000 It seems like at one time this was something that he was behind.

01:17:36.000 I'm going to jump in real quick here.

01:17:38.000 Because we had this conversation when Laura Loomer and Luke Rutkowski were on the show in Iowa.

01:17:44.000 And so now you've got these, just like, I don't know, whinging sycophants on social media misrepresenting what I said.

01:17:53.000 And so you have Laura Loomer blaming Ron DeSantis saying he locked everything down, it was really bad.

01:17:58.000 You have Luke Rutkowski saying Donald Trump locked everything down, it was really bad.

01:18:02.000 And my point is, Everyone in the beginning of this, everyone, got it wrong.

01:18:08.000 Republicans at the start of COVID were advocating wearing masks.

01:18:12.000 And Fauci said not to.

01:18:14.000 And then Fauci flip-flopped and all of a sudden Republicans were saying, don't wear masks.

01:18:18.000 Donald Trump said 15 days to slow the spread.

01:18:21.000 Donald Trump pushed Operation Warp Speed.

01:18:24.000 Personally, I look back and I'm like, yeah, and Ron DeSantis was also for mandates and lockdowns too.

01:18:30.000 I don't see the point in having this Trump is bad, no, Ron is bad, no, Trump is bad back and forth over and over again to try and adjudicate something that happened four years ago between two guys who did relatively similar things or in different ways.

01:18:43.000 Trump wasn't a governor.

01:18:44.000 He didn't have control over the states. 0.99

01:18:45.000 Ron DeSantis believed a lot of the same garbage everyone else did.

01:18:49.000 And what people did was they took this clip to try to imply that I'm somehow saying Fauci should not go to prison. 0.85

01:18:53.000 I think Fauci is directly responsible and he should go to jail.

01:18:56.000 I think he should be criminally charged and investigated, of course.

01:18:59.000 But it's silly in my opinion to attack Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis When we look back four years later, we're like, oh, now that we understand the origins, and now we have the evidence, and now we realize who was right and who was wrong, and who was responsible, it's like, oh, well, you know, now we go back and argue that Trump should have done something different.

01:19:18.000 Well, he should have.

01:19:19.000 But what did anybody know at the time?

01:19:21.000 Do you think this is kind of how the Trump campaign is responding to these?

01:19:25.000 I study polls as part of what I do.

01:19:28.000 And even though we all feel strongly about it, when you stack it up next to immigration and war and the economy, it's not moving that many voters.

01:19:40.000 I mean, Trump, he relied on the doctors.

01:19:43.000 He's not a doctor.

01:19:44.000 He relied on the doctors.

01:19:46.000 That's how I felt about this argument for a long time that, I mean, we still get it from the Democrats that abortion is going to be the big issue of 2024.

01:19:51.000 And it just doesn't seem to be, especially at least in the primary season, among conservative voters.

01:19:56.000 Maybe in a general when you have to face up against maybe moderates, it'll be different.

01:20:00.000 But there are so many things that they bring forward saying, well, this is a potential weakness.

01:20:03.000 You know, this is this is a dent in the chainmail kind of thing.

01:20:06.000 And it seems like no one can actually find the thing that is irritating voters in a way that would would impede the Trump campaign.

01:20:13.000 I think the COVID talking points of Trump are a cope for people who just don't like Trump and are looking for a reason to justify why they wouldn't vote for him.

01:20:21.000 I'm concerned about his staffing issues with, you know, the dude with the big mustache that got us in.

01:20:26.000 John Bolton.

01:20:27.000 Yeah, John Bolton wanted to take over Iran.

01:20:31.000 Some of these horrendous staffing decisions that Don made, and then the Fauci thing, just giving, he didn't give him authority, but he basically stood behind him and nodded while Fauci ran the show.

01:20:43.000 He would do that with some other technocrat in the future, like the CEO of Google.

01:20:47.000 He's like, I'm not a social media guy, so I'm going to let the social media guy run.

01:20:51.000 Like, yo, the doctors should be relying on the president to make the right decision after their advice is given, not the other way around.

01:20:58.000 Well, that's quite literally what happened.

01:21:00.000 The other way, it was the other way around.

01:21:01.000 Trump was relying on Fauci to make the right call and basically was like, whatever you say is gonna be a yes, so good luck, go for it.

01:21:06.000 Well, we don't know that's absolute.

01:21:08.000 That's what it looked like.

01:21:08.000 We know that he had Birx and Fauci up on stage and it was, you know, with him all the time and it was a mistake.

01:21:15.000 In hindsight.

01:21:16.000 And there are people who are like, I always knew exactly what was gonna happen.

01:21:20.000 B.S., dude.

01:21:21.000 So many of these right-wing pundits were screaming, buy masks, buy masks now.

01:21:25.000 I had people mailing me masks early on at the start of this thing.

01:21:29.000 It was March and Donald Trump said, 15 days, slow the spread.

01:21:32.000 And we understand these things were screw-ups.

01:21:35.000 I just think, when you look at how good things were, especially considering the weights they stripped on his ankles, What I hear from, you know, some of these individuals who are like, I won't vote for Trump because of what he did on COVID.

01:21:46.000 I'm like, no, no worse.

01:21:48.000 Spare me your libertarian whinging when you're like, my justification for why I won't vote for Trump is some arbitrary thing about mistakes that were made, even though he's the first president in our lifetimes to not start a war and to actually set a timeline to bring our troops back.

01:22:01.000 And to negotiate with these countries like North Korea, and to try and get our troops out of Syria, setting a deadline for Afghanistan was fantastic, the Abraham Accords, all of these things were tremendous achievements, and then you're like, but because he made bad decisions at a time when nobody knew exactly what was going on, I won't vote for him now.

01:22:20.000 And I'm like, dude, if everything he did with COVID It was a lot of mistakes were made.

01:22:27.000 I totally get that.

01:22:28.000 Fair criticism.

01:22:28.000 Fair point.

01:22:30.000 But the idea that that is justification for why you would not vote for him now with Biden here or potentially Michelle Obama, when you know they're going to massively expand foreign war, Ukraine now the largest recipient of U.S.

01:22:43.000 foreign aid, and young people can't afford apartments, but they're smuggling humans in, giving them healthcare, giving them houses. 1.00

01:22:50.000 And then I hear these people go, but Trump made a bad call on COVID.

01:22:53.000 And I'm like, yeah, well, okay, dude.

01:22:56.000 No one knew what was going on at the time.

01:22:58.000 We can rag on it now, but there's such a tremendous gap in what Trump represents coming to this country, if you vote for him now, versus what the Democrats will do to this country if you don't.

01:23:09.000 And that's what frustrates me.

01:23:11.000 It's an excuse of people who will make an argument every single day.

01:23:15.000 Trump was right about this.

01:23:16.000 He was right about this.

01:23:19.000 Okay.

01:23:19.000 Will you vote for him?

01:23:20.000 Well, because of Dr. Fauci.

01:23:21.000 No, get out of here, dude.

01:23:22.000 That's a lie.

01:23:23.000 That's Trump derangement syndrome.

01:23:25.000 Dude, think about how many things he hasn't done wrong.

01:23:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:28.000 Like, think about how the fact they were, like, investigating this dude for years, and they didn't come up with anything.

01:23:32.000 They were, like, literally trying to find anything.

01:23:34.000 They didn't come up with anything.

01:23:35.000 Like, that's- that- for me, that's what sells it.

01:23:36.000 It's like, there's, like, two or three or four or five things that everyone talks about.

01:23:39.000 It's like, in comparison to so many other people, for me, that's what sells to me.

01:23:43.000 Like, the dude seems like he's spotless.

01:23:44.000 Are you saying, like, because they- he was persecuted legally for so long, they were trying to find something else?

01:23:49.000 Well, yeah, they were definitely trying to find anything.

01:23:51.000 That made you want to lobby for him harder?

01:23:52.000 No, I mean, I just see it as like if they're trying to put this guy in and they can't find any screw to drive home, but they're still willing to go.

01:23:58.000 Yeah.

01:23:59.000 And they're so they're going to be trying so hard.

01:24:01.000 They have to make up lies and stuff about this dude.

01:24:03.000 It's like, dude, I mean, yeah, there's a couple things that are wrong with them.

01:24:05.000 I agree about Bolton and stuff like that, but like.

01:24:07.000 Man, that's impressive.

01:24:08.000 Yeah, so my view is like, oh, was Trump a perfect candidate?

01:24:11.000 Right. 0.99

01:24:11.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:24:12.000 Ridiculous to assume. Was Trump a good president? He was the best president of my life. 0.99

01:24:17.000 And I don't know, I don't, you, Roger, you're a lot older than I am, but...

01:24:20.000 I agree.

01:24:21.000 I didn't know, I didn't know much about Clinton.

01:24:23.000 I didn't know, I knew about Bush and that's when I was growing up, seeing all the stuff.

01:24:27.000 And so really my, my, what I know about the presidency is...

01:24:30.000 Bush... 0.99

01:24:32.000 Holy crap. 1.00

01:24:33.000 Bad. 1.00

01:24:34.000 Obama?

01:24:35.000 Wow, was I lied to.

01:24:36.000 Bad.

01:24:37.000 Donald Trump comes in.

01:24:39.000 Wow.

01:24:40.000 These are the things that people were claiming was supposed to happen under Joe Biden, happening under Donald Trump.

01:24:44.000 Unemployment rates were dropping in minority communities.

01:24:47.000 Young people were seeing opportunity.

01:24:50.000 Rent was going down.

01:24:51.000 I mean, wages were going up.

01:24:53.000 Businesses were offering up four-day work weeks.

01:24:55.000 There was this great list where people were saying, all these socialists claim to want these things, higher pay, better salaries.

01:25:02.000 Profit-sharing, four-day workweek, and those were happening under Trump through capitalism, not socialism.

01:25:09.000 And now people are like, yeah, but a once-in-a-lifetime weird pandemic thing happened where Dr. Fauci did a bunch of bad stuff, so therefore Trump's at fault.

01:25:17.000 And it's like, I'm not going to blame Trump for that.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, I only bring it up just to ask, like, there are obviously going to be criticism of Trump.

01:25:24.000 I'm not super tied to the COVID one.

01:25:25.000 There are always, with any candidate, going to be things that people look back on the legacy and say, hey, this is where you lose me.

01:25:31.000 This is maybe the thing I have concerns about.

01:25:32.000 And of course, any politician is going to have to address them.

01:25:35.000 You have to answer questions from the voters.

01:25:35.000 That's normal, right?

01:25:37.000 They're maybe not even hostile.

01:25:39.000 And so for, you know, COVID, abortion, immigration, you know, whatever, there are There are going to be things the Trump campaign theoretically has to address now that we're going into a general election.

01:25:50.000 It looks like he'll be the nominee.

01:25:51.000 I don't really think Nikki Haley is going to turn the ship around.

01:25:54.000 And so it's just interesting to hear how the campaign decides to address these things.

01:26:00.000 Yeah, it's a it's definitely a warning for the future.

01:26:03.000 If another like, you know, global pandemic or issue happens, like there's a power outage, the system goes down.

01:26:09.000 The only one that can save it is Google, because the Google has the access to the infrastructure to get us back on our knees, back on our feet.

01:26:17.000 Quick, let's get the CEO of Google in to help us run this.

01:26:20.000 So like, no, that cannot happen next time.

01:26:22.000 Next time, maybe they'll be an advisor, the technocrats can advise our leadership, but we need to at least look at the Fauci situation as a learning lesson.

01:26:30.000 That's a Lukeism for sure. 1.00

01:26:33.000 And I think that you can lay the blame at the feet of Trump, but that's not a deal breaker whether or not to vote for the guy.

01:26:38.000 You're looking for the least worst candidate anyway.

01:26:40.000 But like, Roger, what candidates did you serve over the years?

01:26:43.000 Or what administrations have you served with?

01:26:45.000 I worked for, obviously, for Nixon.

01:26:48.000 I worked for Ronald Reagan, three campaigns, 76, 80, and 84.

01:26:51.000 I worked for Senator Bob Dole.

01:26:54.000 I worked on the Bush recount, kind of regretted that.

01:26:57.000 And of course, Donald Trump.

01:26:58.000 So you like skipped the Clintons, the Bushes?

01:27:01.000 I'm a Republican, so yeah.

01:27:02.000 Was that just like, were you like avoiding the war parties?

01:27:05.000 Or were you always just following your heart?

01:27:07.000 I supported Bob Dole in 1996.

01:27:09.000 I held my nose and voted for John McCain.

01:27:11.000 That was an error.

01:27:13.000 When the Republicans nominated Mitt Romney, I left the Republican Party.

01:27:17.000 I became a member of the Libertarian Party. 0.94

01:27:19.000 I supported Gary Johnson because Mitt Romney was so completely repugnant to me. 0.99

01:27:24.000 He was such a complete fraud.

01:27:26.000 And then I returned to the Republican Party in time for the hostile takeover of the party by Donald Trump, who snatched the party back from the country clubs and made it the party of working Americans again.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, it feels like he's a liberal dude.

01:27:39.000 I always thought of him as like a New York Democrat.

01:27:42.000 I'm shocked.

01:27:43.000 Some people thought that early on, but it turns out to be the Heritage Foundation had a great report.

01:27:47.000 When it comes to actual policy, he was more conservative than Ronald Reagan.

01:27:51.000 Did you just see these presidents as like the corruption within the systems, like with the Obamas, with the Clintons?

01:27:55.000 Did you, like from afar, just like, or were you just not interested?

01:27:58.000 I mean, You know, it evolved over time.

01:28:02.000 So I wrote a book on the Kennedy assassination, which I always had a fascination about, but it wasn't until I got an opportunity to talk to Nixon about it, and I asked him about the Warren Commission, he said, are you kidding me? 0.97

01:28:13.000 It was the biggest goddamn hoax in American history.

01:28:17.000 He said, well, Lyndon and I both wanted to be president. 0.99

01:28:17.000 And I said, what do you mean? 0.99

01:28:20.000 The difference was I wasn't willing to kill for it.

01:28:23.000 Wow.

01:28:24.000 That motivated me to write my book, which became a New York Times bestseller, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, Case Against LBJ.

01:28:31.000 No publisher would touch this.

01:28:32.000 They said, nobody's going to read this book.

01:28:34.000 This book has no commercial appeal.

01:28:36.000 Wow.

01:28:36.000 It continues to do extraordinarily well.

01:28:39.000 So I used to be one of those Republican good, Democrat bad, lockstep.

01:28:44.000 Look, I now realize we have a uniparty.

01:28:46.000 So despite the deep sentimental attachment I have to the party of Lincoln and the party of Eisenhower and the party of Nixon and Reagan and Trump, I also recognize that we have a unit party at the elite level.

01:28:59.000 Not at the grassroots level, but at the elite level.

01:29:01.000 We have one party of incumbent politicians in Washington, and they're all in it together, and that's the sad truth.

01:29:09.000 And all of this posturing is like a Hegelian device to distract us from the fact that they're all the same, with the exception of one guy I know, Donald Trump.

01:29:21.000 How do you advise people to, like, pioneer this environment of a uniparty? 0.55

01:29:25.000 Or to survive it?

01:29:27.000 Or even from the political perspective, or just from the average?

01:29:30.000 It's very, very difficult to start a new party.

01:29:33.000 People say, why don't we just start a new party? 0.75

01:29:34.000 Well, the people who write the laws about getting a party on the ballot are Republicans and Democrats working together to make it as expensive and arcane and complicated and difficult as possible.

01:29:46.000 So, if you believe, as I do, that the Republican Party is the traditional home of conservatives, then we have to win intra-party contests to nominate good men and women.

01:30:00.000 Too many of the Republicans that we have are rhinos, I guess, as you'd call it.

01:30:06.000 And we take a look at, we had a list pulled up of the people who voted to oust George Santos. 0.99

01:30:11.000 And I called some of them scumbags. 0.97

01:30:14.000 And it's funny, because you're sitting here with a member, we're sitting here with a member of Congress, and he's like, I know those guys! 0.99

01:30:17.000 Like, I know some of these guys.

01:30:19.000 I'm just like, look, Santos was not convicted of anything.

01:30:22.000 He's been accused and they removed him already because these Republicans are spineless.

01:30:26.000 So with the Supreme Court ruling on the border, a lot of people are pointing out that Democrats will, Democrat judges will justify whatever it is they want to do and tell you too bad cry about it.

01:30:37.000 Republican judges will say, we're going to give to the Democrats because we're fair and magnanimous.

01:30:43.000 And it results in the Democrats just steam rolling ahead and getting wherever they want.

01:30:49.000 I like that George Santos guy.

01:30:51.000 You like him?

01:30:52.000 Yeah, I didn't know that I would, and then I watched a video of him, and I was like, this guy's... Well, he's entertaining.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, funny.

01:30:57.000 But he was denied due process.

01:30:58.000 You're right.

01:30:58.000 Why throw the guy out before he was convicted of anything?

01:31:01.000 He got thrown out when he was only accused.

01:31:03.000 This is how the system's gonna work.

01:31:05.000 Adam Clayton Powell got thrown out of Congress by the Democrats only when he was convicted of a crime.

01:31:10.000 It's the way it should be.

01:31:11.000 I'm not particularly a fan of Santos, nor am I particularly a critic of him, but I do think he was denied due process.

01:31:18.000 Unlike Jamal Bowman, right, who was convicted of pulling the fire alarm, trying to disrupt a vote, and he gets to remain in Congress. 0.94

01:31:25.000 Silly. 0.99

01:31:26.000 Yeah, it's kind of ridiculous. 0.99

01:31:27.000 And I think it's sort of frustrating that this is not something that the Republicans in Congress aren't willing to push harder on. 0.77

01:31:33.000 I mean, it seems like an unequal application of justice.

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01:32:30.000 Clint Torres!

01:32:31.000 He's back!

01:32:32.000 With the first Super Chat saying, howdy people!

01:32:34.000 How does he do it?

01:32:35.000 How does Clint always get the first Super Chat in?

01:32:38.000 He's good.

01:32:39.000 He has a gift.

01:32:41.000 Alpha Turkey says, it's treason then. 0.68

01:32:45.000 Yep, but I don't think treason is the right word.

01:32:48.000 I think sedition is the appropriate term, correct?

01:32:52.000 What specifically are we talking about?

01:32:54.000 I'm not sure.

01:32:54.000 Oh, I'm sorry, the border.

01:32:56.000 Biden facilitating the open border would be a seditious act, which is to destroy the government, whereas treason would be more aiding and abetting an enemy.

01:33:06.000 Well, as you know, the House Republicans have declined to move articles of impeachment against Mayorkas on that basis alone.

01:33:14.000 They just won't do it.

01:33:17.000 Dereliction of duty.

01:33:18.000 Just won't do it.

01:33:19.000 Mayor, we have a unit party.

01:33:22.000 Sadly, yes, I'm afraid so.

01:33:24.000 That doesn't mean obviously that everybody in the Republican Party is bad.

01:33:28.000 I think, for example, Rand Paul, who I think is a very, very good guy and a very principled guy.

01:33:36.000 There are good people.

01:33:37.000 Yeah.

01:33:39.000 But it's a corrupting system.

01:33:42.000 You get elected to Congress, you show up, you have great intentions, you got great beliefs, you get there, but then you realize it's a money chase.

01:33:49.000 You're spending all your time in the House raising money for your next re-election, and people introduce you to lobbyists who in turn introduce you to other lobbyists, and pretty soon it's all about how much is in your bank account.

01:34:02.000 Would you want to change the length of House terms then?

01:34:05.000 Because I've heard that before, because they're basically as soon as you get elected- I think we need term limits, first of all.

01:34:10.000 I think three terms in the House, six years is enough.

01:34:14.000 I think two terms in the Senate, twelve years, that's pretty long, frankly.

01:34:18.000 Right, yeah.

01:34:19.000 And like, what else are you going to do if you're not contributing to society and stuff like that?

01:34:23.000 How can you really represent people if you don't know what the outside world is?

01:34:26.000 You've become completely out of touch.

01:34:27.000 All you do is politics, that's all you know.

01:34:29.000 Well, and the voters are overwhelmingly in favor of term limits, which the politicians will never let this happen, because they're destroying their livelihood.

01:34:39.000 They like the system the way it is.

01:34:41.000 The Emperor's Champion says, what makes people think that all of these criminal migrants would stay if a civil war breaks out? 1.00

01:34:47.000 They have no loyalty to the U.S., why wouldn't they flee?

01:34:50.000 It depends.

01:34:51.000 Depends on how it goes down.

01:34:52.000 But I can imagine a scenario where Donald Trump gets elected, says, I'm going to start a deportation process for these criminal aliens. 0.97

01:35:01.000 And then in major urban cities, they come out and say, we will defend you, but you have to defend yourself.

01:35:07.000 And then you actually have them saying, we won't leave.

01:35:10.000 Democrats are going to argue, you have a right to be here, you're immigrants, you've been given your proper documentation, Trump is committing a crime, don't let him do it, and then if there is fighting that breaks out, the illegal immigrants will be fighting with Democrats.

01:35:23.000 Like fighting on the side of.

01:35:26.000 Alright.

01:35:27.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:35:30.000 YouTube's been giving us the business with superchats.

01:35:31.000 It's kind of annoying.

01:35:33.000 All right, Paul Teskelo says, half measures cause full failures.

01:35:37.000 Abbott waited two and a half years.

01:35:39.000 His plan was destined to lose in court.

01:35:41.000 Now we get Biden wins on immigration headlines.

01:35:44.000 70 dudes in a park with cattle ranch supplies isn't stopping 300,000 illegal immigrants per month. 0.62

01:35:51.000 Yes, unfortunately.

01:35:53.000 Scott Marshall says 1.

01:35:54.000 Strickland definitely got robbed.

01:35:56.000 Abbott should ignore the Supreme Court and defend the Texas border.

01:35:56.000 2.

01:35:59.000 3.

01:36:00.000 If you aren't playing Powell World, then you're missing out.

01:36:02.000 Is that the Pokemon with Guns game?

01:36:05.000 I have not heard of that.

01:36:06.000 That sounds cool though.

01:36:07.000 Yeah, it's basically Pokemon with Guns.

01:36:10.000 I don't know if ignore the Supreme Court is the right way to phrase it.

01:36:15.000 The Supreme Court ruling the feds can remove barricades means nothing when Texas National Guard are not allowing feds anywhere near the barricades.

01:36:23.000 And technically, if the federal government doesn't order them to do it...

01:36:27.000 They're allowed to, but they're still not going to do it because they weren't ordered to do it.

01:36:30.000 The real issue is that the Supreme Court would have to order the Texas National Guard to vacate, allowing the feds to come into the border.

01:36:39.000 But this ruling saying they're allowed to remove barriers doesn't mean they're allowed to remove Texas National Guard.

01:36:44.000 So right now it's it's legal limbo, I guess.

01:36:48.000 And the question of how many people they have to staff this project, right?

01:36:52.000 I mean, doesn't this the razor wire extend for like several miles?

01:36:55.000 Right.

01:36:57.000 And if they do remove the razor wire, does the ruling say Texas can't put more... does the ruling stop Texas from putting razor wire up?

01:37:04.000 Yeah.

01:37:05.000 So imagine the feds come in and actually remove a bunch, and then as they're moving it, it's just being instantly replaced by Texas.

01:37:12.000 The question will be if the Supreme Court says Texas can no longer place the wire.

01:37:19.000 Greg Duvier says, Tim, Vivek needs to be VP so we can have Vivek versus Kamala VP debate.

01:37:25.000 It'll be the most one-sided debate ever.

01:37:29.000 What would that be?

01:37:30.000 Vivek debating Kamala Harris?

01:37:34.000 It'd be rough.

01:37:34.000 I don't think he would have enough to work with, right?

01:37:37.000 He's such a quick-witted person.

01:37:39.000 I feel like he needs someone who can spar a little bit more to have something going on, and I think she doesn't really have anything to offer on the debate stage, in my opinion.

01:37:47.000 It wouldn't be a debate.

01:37:49.000 It'd be her standing there with drool pouring out. 1.00

01:37:51.000 It would be a slaughter, is what it would be.

01:37:53.000 He'd have to have restraint and be kind, because if he got malicious, that would be the media spin. 1.00

01:37:59.000 It would be like, what an asshole. 1.00

01:38:01.000 He was mean to her. 1.00

01:38:03.000 He's going to learn to pull punches.

01:38:06.000 All right, Donald DeVol says, Tim, you are being too hard on DeSantis about that supposed Winston Churchill quote.

01:38:12.000 At the end of Darkest Hour, a movie about Churchill, before the credits, they show that same quote and attribute it to Churchill.

01:38:18.000 However, there is an historical organization that says that's not true, that it was never attributed to him, and that it is attributed, and then someone else pointed out, it's a Budweiser ad from 1938.

01:38:28.000 So do we think it's just like a staffer saw this movie and was like, I know the perfect quote to close on?

01:38:34.000 But like, the point is this.

01:38:35.000 I understand people misattribute that quote to Churchill.

01:38:40.000 The issue is, you should have a staff fact check this, because it only takes a couple minutes to figure out that's not a Churchill quote.

01:38:49.000 It was misattributed.

01:38:51.000 Well, somebody looked at it and they thought it fit the situation perfectly, and then they didn't do their homework.

01:38:57.000 And now you've got Ron DeSantis quoting Budweiser.

01:39:00.000 And he can't get fired, right?

01:39:01.000 I mean, the campaign's over.

01:39:02.000 Whoever wrote this is already out of a job.

01:39:04.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:39:07.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says the first Civil War was over Democrats wanting slaves as cheap labor.

01:39:12.000 The second Civil War will be over Democrats wanting illegals for cheap labor. 0.53

01:39:17.000 I don't think it's about cheap labor.

01:39:19.000 I think it's destruction and subversion of the system, which they have publicly stated.

01:39:25.000 Dramatically altering this country to benefit themselves.

01:39:30.000 Alright, here we are.

01:39:33.000 TRD says, Abbott's wire solution.

01:39:35.000 Remove it, then allow Texas volunteers to replace it.

01:39:39.000 It would technically be in compliance because Texas government didn't reinstall it.

01:39:42.000 Yes, but I don't know that the Supreme Court ordered it be removed.

01:39:46.000 The ruling was that the feds can remove it, correct?

01:39:49.000 I mean... I mean, the federal government is allowed to remove it pending the rest of this legal case.

01:39:55.000 So if it goes back in, they would still have the right to remove it.

01:39:58.000 It's not a permanent solution.

01:39:59.000 But the right to remove it doesn't mean they have a right to remove National Guard.

01:40:03.000 Yeah, if the National Guard were to block them from having access to it, then that's different.

01:40:06.000 But theoretically, in this case, if a volunteer installed it, they would still be allowed.

01:40:11.000 It's not you can only remove razor wire installed by the state government.

01:40:15.000 It's any razor wire that's there you're allowed to remove.

01:40:18.000 Ian Frichter says, Tim, long time subscriber here.

01:40:21.000 You should invite Greg Conleon.

01:40:23.000 He's an attorney and president of American Vaping Association.

01:40:27.000 You would be fascinated at the harm corruption lies the FDA and states are spewing right now about vaping and the health benefits of it.

01:40:35.000 I heard this really interesting pitch one time that really candidates should lobby for the vape vote and that people who vape cross all sections of political classes and socioeconomic classes and if you could just get all of the people who vape to get behind your candidate you would have this kind of coalition of diverse voters.

01:40:56.000 I found that very interesting.

01:40:57.000 I find people who vape...

01:41:00.000 There is a high... I'm not going to try and blanket everybody, but I find a very high rate of... What's the right word?

01:41:09.000 They're rude, inconsiderate, in a certain area, and that is...

01:41:15.000 I am actually surprised at people who will vape inside someone else's home or business or vehicle, knowing what they're doing is bothering them, trying to hide it, but doing it anyway without asking.

01:41:30.000 I've experienced this so often from people who vape.

01:41:33.000 Now, I certainly have experienced people who vape who don't.

01:41:37.000 They'll be like, hey, can I run out?

01:41:37.000 They won't do it.

01:41:39.000 I'm going to vape.

01:41:40.000 I'm like, yeah, no problem.

01:41:41.000 But we've had in many instances here, in this building, vaping is not allowed.

01:41:45.000 It is contractual.

01:41:48.000 There's a bunch of stuff behind it I'm not going to get into.

01:41:50.000 We cannot allow people to vape or smoke in the building.

01:41:52.000 It doesn't matter.

01:41:54.000 So people will actually take small vapes and hide them and try and vape in here despite there being signs saying don't do it.

01:42:00.000 When they come in we say don't do it, we get it, it sucks, but there's nothing we can do about it, there's legal issues, and they do it anyway.

01:42:07.000 I gotta be honest, I'm really at the point where it's like, we've had people come on the show and when they think I'm not paying attention, like I'll look down at the monitor, I'll see them take their hand like this and go And then they won't talk for a little bit.

01:42:20.000 And then when I look back at the monitor, I go, and then I'm just, I'm at the point where I'm like,

01:42:24.000 I'm gonna throw someone out, who will be sitting in this guest chair,

01:42:28.000 who pulls out a vape to try and pull it off.

01:42:30.000 And I'm just gonna be like, bro, get up, you get up.

01:42:32.000 Like, that's it.

01:42:34.000 It's like, it's like spitting on me.

01:42:36.000 Like, dude, I don't care about vaping, I get it.

01:42:38.000 But, you can't.

01:42:41.000 There's a big sign saying don't do it.

01:42:42.000 They know.

01:42:43.000 We don't want them to do it.

01:42:44.000 We ask them not to do it.

01:42:45.000 They don't care.

01:42:45.000 It reminds me of just sort of a lack of common courtesy, right?

01:42:49.000 Like people are sort of less polite.

01:42:51.000 They are less considerate.

01:42:52.000 It's like, well, I really, really, really want to do this thing.

01:42:55.000 So I should be allowed to do it.

01:42:56.000 If you don't see it, it's okay.

01:42:57.000 And ultimately that's not a way to operate.

01:43:00.000 That seems like the degradation of society.

01:43:02.000 In all honesty, I don't think there are many single issue vape voters.

01:43:07.000 In other words, you're right.

01:43:09.000 barriers, but I don't know anyone who's motivated by that issue in terms of the reason they

01:43:15.000 would cast their vote.

01:43:16.000 I mean, the FDA has come down pretty hard on vaping.

01:43:19.000 In your cars.

01:43:20.000 It's like, hey, we're gonna go get food, hop in.

01:43:21.000 And then they're sitting in the back and start vaping.

01:43:22.000 I'm like, bro, are you kidding me?

01:43:24.000 Open the window.

01:43:25.000 What are you doing?

01:43:26.000 That's the worst.

01:43:27.000 It's just, come on, man.

01:43:28.000 I mean, I think some people who vape, I don't do it.

01:43:30.000 I can't ascribe to the culture.

01:43:31.000 But, you know, there are some people who vape who feel the dependency.

01:43:33.000 Because I remember when Juul for a minute was going to get banned from the market, I knew people who drove out and bought it in bulk because they didn't want to be without it.

01:43:40.000 I mean, there is a there is a habit forming element of it.

01:43:44.000 I just don't think that, like, it should trump in this case, especially like this being an example, you're not allowed to do it in here.

01:43:49.000 The fact that you would be like, but I'm just going to make an exception for myself is is discourteous.

01:43:53.000 And it's just it happens all the time.

01:43:55.000 Like, look, guys, Like, it happens once or twice, and I was just like, hey, hey, you can't vape in here.

01:43:59.000 And they're like, oh, okay.

01:44:00.000 But it's happened probably like 37 times.

01:44:02.000 Which is just like, yo, this is nuts.

01:44:05.000 We had someone come in recently, actually point at the sign and be like, oh, we can't vape in here.

01:44:09.000 Okay.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 Five minutes later, like, and I'm like...

01:44:14.000 Wow.

01:44:14.000 That was the last straw for me.

01:44:15.000 The last person who did it was a couple weeks ago.

01:44:17.000 I was like, I think from now on we're going to put out a message.

01:44:21.000 I just kind of feel like it's such a dick move to do that.

01:44:25.000 We're just going to ask you to leave. 0.81

01:44:27.000 And I'll literally put Mr. Bocas in that chair and we'll do the show with whoever's in the house.

01:44:32.000 Because just like, bro, if you want to come in here and just basically spit in my face, you can leave.

01:44:37.000 You don't need to be here.

01:44:38.000 That's the whole vaping thing to me.

01:44:41.000 You can tell it's been irking me for some time that people keep doing this.

01:44:47.000 And it's like at the 37th time, I'm just finally like, bro, that's it.

01:44:50.000 It comes up.

01:44:50.000 There we go.

01:44:51.000 I'm gonna talk about it.

01:44:52.000 No but I think it's like I think it is picking up on something that I really feel in America which is that there's a sort of there is an inherent selfishness to the way we live now and I think it's aided and abetted by consumerist and sort of social media culture that says I have to think about my needs above everything else and I think if we moved away from that we would be a better and stronger society.

01:45:15.000 All right.

01:45:16.000 Mr. Grizzly Bear says, Tim, what's stopping Biden from declaring what Texas is doing a rebellion and federalizing the Texas Guard?

01:45:22.000 What do you think are the chances of it and what could the repercussions be?

01:45:25.000 I don't know the chances.

01:45:26.000 Democrats are actually already talking about it.

01:45:28.000 I think it was walking Castro, perhaps.

01:45:30.000 There's an article we had pulled up.

01:45:31.000 We didn't get into it.

01:45:32.000 But they are talking about federalizing the National Guard.

01:45:35.000 Yo, if the Biden administration tried basically seizing control of the Texas National Guard, that's like, over this issue particularly, that may be like the most Civil War-y thing I could think of at the moment.

01:45:48.000 The feds coming down and being like, from now on you will take orders from us and no one else.

01:45:53.000 That's wild.

01:45:55.000 And there's a possibility that they're actually discussing doing that.

01:45:59.000 We'll see, man.

01:46:00.000 What do you think the likelihood of that is?

01:46:00.000 I honestly don't know.

01:46:02.000 You think that's... I think it is unlikely.

01:46:04.000 Yeah.

01:46:04.000 I think it is unlikely.

01:46:06.000 It's certainly not desirable.

01:46:08.000 I agree.

01:46:10.000 Man, I don't know.

01:46:12.000 Alright.

01:46:13.000 Random Eskimo says, if we can afford to send $200 billion to Ukraine for a war we illegally caused through Boris Johnson, we can afford to use our own National Guard to remove illegal invaders.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, the Ukraine stuff is a mess.

01:46:26.000 I just want to make sure every young person knows.

01:46:29.000 That's all you gotta do.

01:46:30.000 Go to every Gen Z kid and be like, hey, can you afford an apartment? 1.00

01:46:33.000 And be like, did you ask why it is Democrats are sending hundreds of billions of dollars to a foreign country?

01:46:33.000 And they go, no.

01:46:39.000 Have you asked why Democrats are giving illegal immigrants free housing? 1.00

01:46:42.000 Hey, look, man, I get it.

01:46:44.000 You can't afford a place to live.

01:46:45.000 You should.

01:46:45.000 That's wrong.

01:46:46.000 Our younger generation needs to be able to have families and buy homes.

01:46:50.000 Have you asked yourself why it is that Joe Biden is bringing in illegal immigrants and then the Democrats in New York are putting them up in hotels? 0.70

01:46:56.000 You know these hotel rooms have a bed and a bathroom.

01:46:59.000 And they expect you to live in a bachelor micro apartment or a pod.

01:47:04.000 You're an American citizen, 20 years old, trying to find an apartment.

01:47:08.000 You're going to school.

01:47:09.000 The best you can find is for $2,000 in New York, a micro apartment.

01:47:13.000 Congratulations.

01:47:14.000 That illegal immigrant who came here? 1.00

01:47:15.000 They put him up in a fancy hotel in the Upper West Side of New York, where he's got his own big bed, a TV, and his own bathroom.

01:47:22.000 Sorry.

01:47:22.000 Sucks for you, I guess.

01:47:24.000 You're being left out. 1.00

01:47:25.000 Vote Trump!

01:47:26.000 I can tell you this.

01:47:27.000 I can't guarantee Trump's gonna solve all those problems, but I can tell you if you vote Democrat, it'll only make it worse.

01:47:31.000 So it's... you choose.

01:47:33.000 It's on you, man.

01:47:36.000 All right.

01:47:36.000 The Lion says, Tim, I can tell you're not a UFC fan.

01:47:39.000 Decisions are controversial 70% of the time.

01:47:42.000 When you're the challenger, it's said to not leave it to the hands of the judges.

01:47:46.000 Strickland won rounds one, two, and five, by the way.

01:47:50.000 That's apparently how the media scored it.

01:47:52.000 It's how a lot of people watching online were scoring it as it went.

01:47:56.000 They're like, oh man, that round easily went to, I remember watching it and I'm seeing people tweet like rounds one and two easily went to Strickland.

01:48:03.000 And I'm like, man, I don't know.

01:48:04.000 It just looks like he's winning.

01:48:06.000 And then in the end, they're like, the other guy wins!

01:48:07.000 And I was like, huh?

01:48:09.000 And I, it's, you know, look, confirmation bias is all I need.

01:48:12.000 As soon as I watched that clip of Joe Rogan acting surprised, I was like, see, I'm right.

01:48:17.000 My, my, what bothers me is, look, I'm just some layman.

01:48:21.000 I don't watch UFC fights all that often, but sometimes.

01:48:23.000 I've been watching them now because I'm a fan of these fighters because they're standing up for the people and pushing back on the machine.

01:48:30.000 And I watch a fight happen, I see something I don't understand, and they call it for a guy who doesn't appear to win the fight?

01:48:37.000 It seems like not a sport I should be interested in watching later on.

01:48:40.000 Because I'm like, is it just fake?

01:48:44.000 So I tweeted that I'd rather just watch two guys go in, the fight ends when the fight ends.

01:48:49.000 But I think it's a fair point people made, like, they've tried that in the past, it doesn't work.

01:48:53.000 You get people just spinning around in circles for an hour and nothing happens and everyone's like, what is this?

01:48:57.000 No one's even fighting.

01:48:58.000 So I understand that rounds are to basically put pressure on, but then if you do rounds you need a scoring system.

01:49:04.000 But I'm just like, if it comes down to this, they should at the very least say that A win requires a point spread of like 10 or something.

01:49:14.000 In which case, if you're on round 5 and it's like this, you go around again.

01:49:18.000 They look at the judge and the judges say, we do not have a definitive answer.

01:49:21.000 It's a split decision.

01:49:22.000 Round 6.

01:49:23.000 Ooh, that'd be rough.

01:49:24.000 Yup! 0.99

01:49:24.000 Would be! 0.99

01:49:25.000 Because they time it knowing that there's only going to be five rounds, so they'll come in with everything.

01:49:30.000 And people have complained about this.

01:49:32.000 That you end up with fighters specifically trying to win on technicalities through rounds instead of actually winning a fight.

01:49:38.000 And so it becomes more of a game.

01:49:40.000 And that's a part of it, I guess.

01:49:42.000 You know, I was reading about this one guy, I forgot his name.

01:49:45.000 He was saying he wants to see a fight.

01:49:46.000 He wants to see the best guy fight the best guy.

01:49:49.000 Instead, when you start introducing these rules to try and condense things and make something watchable, you end up with people just exploiting the rules for maximum points to win.

01:49:56.000 Combat sports, especially, is very unique in that there's no ball.

01:49:59.000 Like, you can't count how many times did the ball hit the net?

01:50:02.000 How many times did the ball pass by the line?

01:50:04.000 Because then it's objectively, we already know who won.

01:50:07.000 You've got, like, dudes trying to qualify the behaviors of the athletes, and that's the score.

01:50:13.000 And so they try and do, like, strikes.

01:50:15.000 Is it a significant strike?

01:50:17.000 Is it light?

01:50:19.000 And if it was just like, how many hits did you get?

01:50:21.000 Then you get light jabs.

01:50:22.000 But it's like, okay, so we got away significant.

01:50:24.000 So they try.

01:50:24.000 I can respect that they try to come up with a scoring system that makes sense.

01:50:28.000 But the problem is, you end up watching a fight like the Strickland fight, and it's clear a guy won, but...

01:50:36.000 You know, one thing I'm seeing a lot of people say is Du Plessis got 6 out of 11 takedowns.

01:50:42.000 Strickland had none.

01:50:44.000 And so I watched him, plus he'd take him down.

01:50:46.000 He grabs him, throws him on the ground, and I'm like, oh wow, that's bad.

01:50:50.000 But it's like, there's no damage, there's no control, and so apparently people are saying the takedowns... This is the commentary I'm seeing.

01:50:57.000 For people who are in favor of Strickland, it said the judges weighed the takedowns way too heavily, as if that was significant when it wasn't.

01:51:03.000 He knocked him down, Strickland got right back up, got out of it, kept fighting.

01:51:07.000 That's different than a takedown that leads into some sort of... Control, like submission, yeah.

01:51:13.000 But I think takedowns are good, you know, and he did knock Strickland down.

01:51:18.000 That's great.

01:51:19.000 But if I was watching that fight in the street, I'd just be like, wow, Strickland is beating that guy up.

01:51:25.000 A takedown and a knockdown should be counted differently.

01:51:28.000 A knockdown where the guy goes down and you're looking at him and he's on the ground, whereas a takedown is where you bring him to the ground and have control of him on the ground.

01:51:36.000 That would be, I would think, worth more points than a knockdown.

01:51:39.000 It is what it is.

01:51:40.000 I just, it frustrates me because I'm just like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to watch a fight where I'm counting points and trying to map things out.

01:51:48.000 I want to see guys fight, you know?

01:51:50.000 Anyway, David Guyton says, Tim, I'm five minutes from Maryland Live.

01:51:54.000 Arundel rhymes with bundle.

01:51:56.000 By the way, I still have that metal memento Mori mask for you.

01:51:59.000 Oh, very cool.

01:52:00.000 Maryland Live is a lot of fun.

01:52:02.000 A lot of fun.

01:52:03.000 We were hanging out there and they got like a nice little bar and some lady was singing.

01:52:06.000 Good times, good times.

01:52:08.000 All right.

01:52:10.000 Dadsden Flag says, Tim and Co, can you please shout out my amazing wife Gadsden Flag Girl from the Austin show and our new baby!

01:52:18.000 Our little girl was born last month, is a true blessing and growing strong.

01:52:21.000 We cannot wait to take on this crazy world as a family of four.

01:52:25.000 That's so exciting!

01:52:26.000 Congratulations!

01:52:27.000 I love when people call in and be like, I have had a baby!

01:52:30.000 Like, I just want everyone to do it every day.

01:52:31.000 Yeah.

01:52:34.000 Tom Cavness says, it just came out that AZGOP Chairman Jeff DeWitt was the one that went to Carrie Lake's house and attempted to bribe her into quitting politics.

01:52:43.000 She said this was done in a previous speech.

01:52:45.000 Have you heard about that?

01:52:47.000 I have.

01:52:47.000 What's going on with that?

01:52:49.000 The Arizona Republican Party, dominated by the rhinos, is epically corrupt. 0.83

01:52:54.000 I've never seen a more clear-cut, absolute proof of a fraudulent election in the 45 years I've been doing this.

01:53:01.000 And no judge wants to accept this evidence.

01:53:05.000 No judge wants to rule. 0.67

01:53:08.000 Honestly, it's really simple.

01:53:09.000 You have a tabulating machine.

01:53:11.000 It takes a piece of paper that is 19 inches long.

01:53:16.000 We test it with 19-inch ballots.

01:53:18.000 The next day, the ballots that are brought in are 20 inches.

01:53:21.000 Of course, the tabulator is going to spit it back out.

01:53:24.000 And after three times, they say, oh, just go put your ballot in that box over there.

01:53:27.000 We'll count it later.

01:53:29.000 I'm simplifying it, but the manipulation of the Arizona election was outrageous.

01:53:34.000 It was also long lines caused by the errors.

01:53:37.000 Some people went home, right.

01:53:38.000 And then they came out and said no one went home.

01:53:40.000 What do you mean no one went home?

01:53:41.000 There are people who have tweeted they went home.

01:53:45.000 None of that matters. 1.00

01:53:46.000 Any judge worth his weight in his own balls would say, the machines were broken, you screwed up, new election, shut your mouth. 0.99

01:53:54.000 Instead, you get a bunch of cowards who are like, well, we all know the machines were broken, but I don't want to be the one to take responsibility for this. 1.00

01:54:01.000 That's what you have. 0.99

01:54:02.000 You have weak men.

01:54:03.000 Weak men in this country who are unwilling to actually stand up and say, I'm sorry, I have to.

01:54:09.000 And you know what, man?

01:54:11.000 It's a bummer.

01:54:12.000 I'm waiting for one of these Texas troopers or National Guardsmen to arrest one of these CBP guys.

01:54:17.000 You know what I want to see?

01:54:18.000 I want to see when one of these feds tries to remove the barrier from Texas, I want to see a Texas trooper walk right up and say, put your hands behind your back.

01:54:26.000 You are under arrest for destruction of- felony destruction of state property.

01:54:29.000 Carries a minimum of one year and a $2,500 fine.

01:54:34.000 And then read him his rights, lock him up.

01:54:36.000 I don't care who breaks the law, you break the law, you get arrested.

01:54:39.000 That's how it's supposed to work.

01:54:41.000 But too many of these people just go, I don't want to be the one to do it.

01:54:43.000 Oh, don't put it on me.

01:54:45.000 I'm willing to bet most of these Texas troopers, if they saw the feds breaking law, they just shrug and be like, oh, what am I going to do?

01:54:52.000 But I'll tell you, I'll tell you what, you saw that viral video of the firefighter getting arrested.

01:54:57.000 This is why you ended up with Trump supporters throwing the thin blue line flag on the ground and stomping on it a few years ago.

01:55:05.000 Because you get a video where a firefighter parks the firetruck at an angle so that it creates a barrier as they're rendering aid to a guy who's in a car accident and a cop yells at him to move the firetruck and they say, like, we're rendering aid.

01:55:19.000 So this is a viral video.

01:55:20.000 A cop arrests the firefighter.

01:55:22.000 Oh great.

01:55:23.000 So you get the FBI going to Bubba Wallace's garage because they found a garage pull rope. 0.86

01:55:28.000 Meanwhile, the feds are quite literally facilitating human smuggling operations and there's not a man with a spine or a set of balls in sight to tell them to stop.

01:55:37.000 And this is what you will get in this country.

01:55:40.000 Everybody wants to take the path of least resistance.

01:55:43.000 A cop says, look, If I go and try and stop these federal law enforcement officers from breaking the law, it's gonna jam me up and cause me a lot of problems.

01:55:53.000 I'm gonna ignore it.

01:55:54.000 Ah!

01:55:55.000 Here's a low-hanging fruit!

01:55:56.000 A firefighter who's parked his firetruck on the side of a highway who's trying to render aid to somebody.

01:56:00.000 Nothing bad will happen to me.

01:56:01.000 Well, granted, that guy got sued, apparently.

01:56:02.000 It's an older story.

01:56:04.000 And, uh, people have brought that up.

01:56:05.000 But, this is what's frustrating, is that for a lot of these cops, there's no risk to pulling a guy over and giving him a speeding ticket if he wasn't even speeding.

01:56:16.000 Well, you know what?

01:56:17.000 You may have been speeding.

01:56:17.000 I don't know.

01:56:18.000 Maybe it was the other car.

01:56:18.000 I'll give you a ticket.

01:56:19.000 You deal with it.

01:56:20.000 But then when they actually witness something that's actually a threat to them, they don't want to do it.

01:56:24.000 Luke Rudkowski talked about this in New York.

01:56:26.000 There was a guy stabbing people on the train and the cops were like, I'm not getting involved in that.

01:56:29.000 Sure.

01:56:30.000 But, you know, if some guy jumps a turnstile, they're gonna run him down and they're gonna use force against them.

01:56:35.000 No, that guy should get arrested, don't get me wrong.

01:56:37.000 Or he should get a ticket or whatever the fine is.

01:56:39.000 But then when things actually get hot, we have no strong men in sight to actually try and deal with the problem.

01:56:44.000 This is why I was saying I like UFC.

01:56:45.000 Because these guys are using the platform they have, telling the machine to screw off, at risk to themselves.

01:56:50.000 That I respect.

01:56:52.000 To go back to your question, I have to say, Carrie Lake is one of the most impressive talents I've ever seen as a communicator, as a person.

01:57:01.000 Not since I worked for Reagan have I seen anyone that good, that talented.

01:57:06.000 She's extraordinary.

01:57:08.000 She's going to have a great future.

01:57:09.000 I think she got cheated.

01:57:11.000 She's still fighting over that election while she's running for the Senate, but she is a, she's the future without any question. 0.99

01:57:21.000 Alright, TheRealHydroPX says, Tim, I will give you 10k if you take an IQ test.

01:57:27.000 Here's an IQ test.

01:57:28.000 Sending me over $200 while telling me you'll give me $10,000 to take an IQ test.

01:57:34.000 I think you've failed.

01:57:35.000 No, but shout out.

01:57:36.000 We love Real Hydro.

01:57:37.000 He just rags in the Super Chats all day, every day.

01:57:40.000 And I want to give you a shout out because I think you legit spent like $200 today ragging on me mostly.

01:57:45.000 And I'm actually watching like the Super Chat revenue just going up as Hydro just rags over and over again.

01:57:51.000 He's so supportive of us.

01:57:52.000 It's great.

01:57:52.000 I don't know what to think.

01:57:53.000 Like he's insulting me but giving me money at the same time.

01:57:56.000 What do you do? 1.00

01:57:57.000 A guy walks up to you and he hands you a $5 bill and calls you dumb. 0.98

01:57:59.000 You're like, okay. 0.98

01:58:00.000 This happens to me all the time. 1.00

01:58:01.000 So people will go to Cameo and they say, you're a Russian trader and a piece of shit and a dummy. 1.00

01:58:06.000 I'm a dummy? 1.00

01:58:07.000 I just got 200 bucks from you. 1.00

01:58:09.000 Who's dumb? 0.99

01:58:11.000 But I don't know, like, yeah, okay. 0.99

01:58:13.000 I accept your terms, sir.

01:58:14.000 Thank you for the super chat.

01:58:16.000 I appreciate it.

01:58:17.000 But also, look, you're allowed to insult me, and if you want to spend money to have it done, like, okay, you know.

01:58:24.000 I don't read everybody's superchits.

01:58:27.000 You know.

01:58:28.000 Alright.

01:58:29.000 PhilDudeBro says, why is nobody saying DeSantis passes a six-week abortion ban, and that is kryptonite for swing states?

01:58:36.000 How would he be able to do battle- How would he be able to battle the media on that issue?

01:58:43.000 I have no idea.

01:58:45.000 I do think it is not palatable to voters.

01:58:47.000 I do think it would have been problematic had he gotten to a general election.

01:58:53.000 I think you could be pro-life but not be that radical.

01:58:57.000 The guy says he signs an executive order which prohibits the school boards in Florida from teaching a curriculum that includes CRT or any of this gender nonsense. 0.55

01:59:10.000 Sounds great.

01:59:11.000 Press release is a great announcement, but not in the county where I live where they're doing it right now, and in the seven largest counties.

01:59:17.000 Well, where's the governor been?

01:59:18.000 He's been in Iowa.

01:59:20.000 So, it sounds good, but it has no reality in terms of enforcement.

01:59:27.000 All right.

01:59:28.000 Brian Forsaken, as the world crumbles, says, so what's the prediction if we lose the House, the Senate, and the presidency?

01:59:38.000 Start digging a large hole?

01:59:39.000 The guy who's like, his screen name is The World Crumbles.

01:59:42.000 What do I do if everything falls apart is the question.

01:59:45.000 Well, geez.

01:59:46.000 He's going to look on the dark side and ask, what are you guys going to do?

01:59:48.000 Argentina is looking pretty good to me.

01:59:51.000 You know, I like Malay a lot.

01:59:54.000 He's a friend of mine.

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:55.000 And I actually looked it up.

01:59:56.000 There's like a hundred acres for $4,000 in South Argentina.

02:00:00.000 And I was like, this sounds really good.

02:00:02.000 The only caveat, the only way to get there is by raft.

02:00:06.000 Down a river.

02:00:07.000 And Tim, let me tell you something.

02:00:08.000 The best steak in the world.

02:00:10.000 Argentina.

02:00:11.000 Unbelievable.

02:00:11.000 Oh, wow.

02:00:12.000 Well, that sounds great.

02:00:14.000 We were hanging out at this place that they had a heated pool and a hot tub, but there's snow everywhere.

02:00:19.000 It's in PA.

02:00:20.000 And I'm hanging out with Richie Jackson.

02:00:23.000 And there's like two and a half feet of snow next to the pool that's just piled up.

02:00:27.000 They turn the heaters on and you can go in the pool.

02:00:30.000 And he digs out a large hole, cave, into the snow and then just looks at me and says, I think this is what men are supposed to be doing.

02:00:39.000 To which followed up short laughter by him yelling out, this is the best day of my life.

02:00:42.000 And it was one of the funniest things ever.

02:00:44.000 But I just bring that up because, you know, men dig holes.

02:00:47.000 It's just a thing.

02:00:48.000 You know, have you guys seen the meme?

02:00:51.000 No.

02:00:51.000 It's just like, for some reason, you start digging.

02:00:55.000 That's why Elon Musk, once he gets all this money, what does he do?

02:00:57.000 The Boring Company.

02:00:58.000 Jeff Bezos, what does he do?

02:00:59.000 He digs into a giant, he digs into a mountain.

02:01:02.000 Mark Zuckerberg builds a thing in Hawaii or whatever.

02:01:06.000 Just start digging a hole! 0.99

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02:01:39.000 Roger, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:41.000 Let's make America great again.

02:01:43.000 We got one more chance.

02:01:44.000 This is it.

02:01:46.000 Right on.

02:01:46.000 Do you have a Twitter handle?

02:01:48.000 You can find me on Twitter at RogerJStoneJrJR.

02:01:52.000 I'm not on Facebook, so that guy who says he's Roger Stone on Facebook, who's selling crypto, that's me.

02:01:57.000 That's not me.

02:01:58.000 That's not you.

02:01:59.000 Don't go for it.

02:02:00.000 Don't go for it.

02:02:01.000 I'm banned for life on Instagram.

02:02:02.000 I'm banned for life on Facebook.

02:02:04.000 I'm banned for life on YouTube.

02:02:06.000 You can find me on Rumble at Rumble.com slash Roger Stone or X, formerly known as Twitter, as RogerJStoneJR.

02:02:16.000 That's a hilarious way to be like, no, that has to be a fraud because I'm banned for life.

02:02:20.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

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02:02:34.000 Guys, thank you so much for watching tonight.

02:02:36.000 Thanks, Ian.

02:02:36.000 Thank you for having me.

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02:02:39.000 Follow me on the Internet everywhere and I'll catch you there.

02:02:42.000 Good to see you, man.

02:02:42.000 Good to meet you, Roger.

02:02:44.000 Yeah, cheers. 0.64

02:02:45.000 Roger, thank you for doing the show.

02:02:46.000 Appreciate it.

02:02:48.000 Yeah, iminsurge.com.

02:02:50.000 I'm still looking for that URL.

02:02:52.000 I have to figure it out still.

02:02:53.000 What's the after show?

02:02:54.000 We will see you all over at timcast.com in about a minute.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 23, 2024

Timcast IRL - Biden Staging CIVIL WAR Says Rep As SCOTUS Ruling Declares OPEN BORDER w-Roger Stone

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