Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - BLM Harassment Results In Man Taking Own Life, Family Sues w-Richie McGinniss

00:00:00.000 Peace.

00:00:22.000 I gotta be honest.

00:00:23.000 There was a man who was tending to his bar.

00:00:25.000 There's a group of people who are smashing windows.

00:00:28.000 This guy goes out.

00:00:30.000 His name was Jake Gardner.

00:00:32.000 They attack his dad, and then he tells him to back off.

00:00:34.000 He shows him that he's got a gun.

00:00:36.000 One guy attacks him, gets him on the ground, is choking him.

00:00:40.000 This dude fires in self-defense.

00:00:42.000 Initially, the prosecution said, the prosecutors, the county said that it was the self-defense.

00:00:50.000 But then the protesters came out and there were threats of riots.

00:00:53.000 And this, I think, is interesting.

00:00:54.000 This is very much a precursor to what we saw with Chauvin and we need to pay attention to this stuff.

00:00:58.000 Because of the protesters and because of the threats of riots and the fear of violence and damage, they decided to actually criminally charge this guy who was on the ground being choked, who was defending himself, who had warned this group, this group who was rioting.

00:01:11.000 The guy ended up taking his own life.

00:01:13.000 And now we have an exclusive story from Tim Kast.

00:01:15.000 He is filing, his family, sorry, is filing a wrongful death suit arguing that the defendants in the case conspired to deprive him of his rights.

00:01:25.000 We need to pay attention to things like that.

00:01:27.000 Because what ended up happening with Chauvin?

00:01:29.000 One of the jurors came out and said, I feared retaliation.

00:01:32.000 They'd come to my house.

00:01:33.000 These jurors were being escorted into the building with armed police because of the riots and the violence.

00:01:39.000 Not too far from the court, one of the jurors actually lived where riots were currently occurring.

00:01:44.000 Now there's real concern over what might end up happening with the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:01:49.000 So we're gonna get into this.

00:01:50.000 We'll talk a lot about what's going on with that.

00:01:51.000 We've got a protest that happened outside of the White House, because you've got a lot of people who want the U.S. 0.95

00:01:56.000 government to intervene to help Cuba.

00:01:58.000 Plus, we've got Joe Biden just losing his absolute mind, and we're getting into it.

00:02:03.000 So joining us today is one of the foremost experts on the protests and the riots over the past year or so is Rachel McGinnis.

00:02:11.000 Foremost.

00:02:12.000 I like that word.

00:02:13.000 I mean, bro.

00:02:13.000 I don't know about expert, but foremost I like.

00:02:16.000 Foremost expert.

00:02:16.000 You were at almost every single major... I was at the front.

00:02:20.000 I was foremost.

00:02:20.000 I don't know about that.

00:02:21.000 Foremost.

00:02:21.000 Yeah, you were literally just at the front.

00:02:22.000 You have no idea what's going on the whole time, but you're just standing there like, well, I'm in the front.

00:02:26.000 I have a camera.

00:02:26.000 Wide angle.

00:02:27.000 No, no, no.

00:02:27.000 Let's be real.

00:02:28.000 I mean, every time there's a big major breaking story around these riots or what's happening, you were there.

00:02:34.000 And then we'd have you come on and you talk about what happened.

00:02:36.000 And so, yeah, man, foremost expert.

00:02:38.000 Actually, my co-worker, shout out to Vince Colonese.

00:02:42.000 And I'll just do a quick plug for Vince and Jason Save the Nation, our new show on Daily Caller.

00:02:47.000 Anyways, he said that I Forrest Gumped the year.

00:02:50.000 And I thought that was kind of funny because Forrest Gump kind of just like happened to be at all these events, you know, kind of stumbled through it.

00:02:56.000 And that's kind of how I felt, which is just like we were just kind of going on hunches the whole time.

00:03:00.000 I've got to do it.

00:03:01.000 We don't normally do this, but someone just superchatted us right now, and it's big, and it's, um... What is it?

00:03:08.000 Lagima Thigayon?

00:03:10.000 But they said, Jaffa Cree!

00:03:10.000 Or whatever.

00:03:12.000 Ian Cree!

00:03:13.000 And shout out for the Stargate reference, because I've been watching mad Stargate lately, and, you know, so anyway.

00:03:18.000 Welcome, Richie.

00:03:19.000 He's chilling.

00:03:19.000 We got Ian.

00:03:20.000 Ian Jaffa Cree.

00:03:20.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:21.000 Jaffa Cree.

00:03:23.000 Did it change you?

00:03:24.000 I don't speak Stargate.

00:03:25.000 Going through this last year?

00:03:26.000 You don't speak Stargate?

00:03:28.000 Not yet.

00:03:28.000 You want to learn?

00:03:29.000 I just started watching it.

00:03:31.000 Recently they do like three episodes a day on Comet.

00:03:34.000 That show's amazing.

00:03:35.000 Stargate's a good show.

00:03:36.000 Incredible theme.

00:03:38.000 Did it change you going through seeing all these riots this last year?

00:03:41.000 Yeah, I think it changed my perspective.

00:03:43.000 I mean, I don't think it changed me myself, you know, like who I am.

00:03:47.000 But I think certainly the way that I view not only, you know, the United States, but also just the way our media functions definitely changed my perspectives.

00:03:56.000 I'll ask you more about it after the intro.

00:03:58.000 For sure.

00:03:58.000 Thanks, Richie.

00:03:59.000 I'm also here in the corner.

00:04:01.000 Sorry to cut you off there, Ian.

00:04:02.000 I'm very excited.

00:04:03.000 I always enjoy when Richie has something to add because he always sees the most interesting things in the world.

00:04:08.000 So I'm stoked to hear what he's got to say tonight.

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00:05:02.000 Let's get into that first story.

00:05:04.000 We have an exclusive for TimCast.com from Cassandra Fairbanks.

00:05:08.000 Family of Jake Gardner files wrongful death lawsuit against County Special Prosecutor and Attorney General's Office.

00:05:15.000 I just want to read the opening of this because it's a very serious and very important story.

00:05:19.000 Cassandra writes, The parents of a Nebraska bar owner that committed suicide after a fatal altercation with violent rioters have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the county, the attorney general, two unnamed detectives, and the special prosecutor in the case.

00:05:33.000 Gardner, 38, shot and killed a rioter who was attacking him, his elderly father, and his business during last summer's Black Lives Matter riots.

00:05:40.000 Prior to his suicide, he was indebted by a grand jury on counts of manslaughter, use of a firearm in the commission of a felony, attempted first-degree assault, and making terroristic threats.

00:05:49.000 But only after intense political pressure was placed on the city.

00:05:52.000 The lawsuit accuses the plaintiffs of conspiring to deprive Gardner of his right to a fair trial and due process, deprivation of Sixth Amendment rights, deprivation of Fourteenth Amendment rights, a Brady Rule violation, wrongful death, and failing to prevent the deprivation of his rights.

00:06:08.000 Gardner was a Marine and veteran of deployments to Iraq and Haiti.

00:06:11.000 He described himself as a libertarian, but voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and volunteered for his campaign in three states.

00:06:17.000 The district attorney had originally ruled that the shooting was self-defense.

00:06:21.000 On May 30th, Gardner confronted a group of rioters outside one of the bars he owned in Omaha called The Hive.

00:06:26.000 One of them had just violently attacked his 70-year-old father, which was captured on surveillance footage.

00:06:31.000 During the chaos, Gardner was knocked to the ground.

00:06:33.000 The veteran fired a warning shot and attempted to back away.

00:06:37.000 The situation took a tragic turn.

00:06:39.000 After 22-year-old Ryder, James Scurlock jumped on his back and began choking him.

00:06:44.000 The veteran could be heard pleading with his assailant saying, get off me, get off me, please get off me.

00:06:48.000 According to the lawsuit, the choking lasted at least 18 seconds before Gardner fatally shot Scurlock.

00:06:55.000 Scurlock had repeatedly broken windows at Gardner's bar and other businesses in the area earlier that evening.

00:07:00.000 Still, the fatal shooting sparked even more rioting in the city, which escalated after Donald Klein, the Douglas County attorney, determined that Gardner had acted in self-defense and declined to bring charges.

00:07:10.000 In what appeared to be a political move to quell the riots, Douglas County District Attorney Shelley Stratman appointed Special Prosecutor Frederick D. Franklin to handle the case, though the court said that they expected the same outcome.

00:07:22.000 Franklin is president of the Midlands Bar Association, an organization for black-only attorneys.

00:07:27.000 The lawsuit notes the special prosecutor had heavily implied Gartner was a racist when he announced the charges at the height of the racial tension in the nation by saying the decision was not made because he quote may or may not have been a racist because being racist is not against the law yikes man there were no hints of racism in the gardner messages in the in gardner's message or messages or reasons for franklin to imply that he was there was

00:07:52.000 The special prosecutor inflamed people so much that Gardner received more than 1,600 death threats that week.

00:07:58.000 His family was also forced to move out of the state for fear of their own safety.

00:08:02.000 Now, the story goes on a bit more.

00:08:03.000 There's statements from the lawyer involved.

00:08:06.000 But I want to point out something really important as we move through the next bit of stories.

00:08:11.000 This guy got 1,600 death threats.

00:08:14.000 I'm fairly convinced none of those people will face any kind of repercussion for those death threats.

00:08:19.000 But you know for a fact, if the person was in any way anti-establishment, right-wing, or populist, then that would have been all over the news as the extremists are coming, etc., etc.

00:08:29.000 I gotta say, this story is nightmarish.

00:08:34.000 It's coming back up because, you know, of this lawsuit.

00:08:36.000 But here's the guy who begs, you know, get off me.

00:08:40.000 Had already warned him several times.

00:08:42.000 Those warnings?

00:08:43.000 Terroristic threats, so saith the state, the prosecutor.

00:08:47.000 Telling someone, like, back away, you know, I'm armed, that's making threats, and that's terroristic threats.

00:08:52.000 Things look, uh, I don't know.

00:08:54.000 They look fairly dark, I suppose.

00:08:55.000 Now, to be fair, this happened, you know, last year, and the lawsuit is bringing this back up, so I don't want to act like we're seeing more of this kind of thing.

00:09:02.000 Specifically, we haven't had the level of riots we had during the George Floyd riots, but you take a look at the Chauvin case, which wasn't that long ago, and you get riots and, you know, the jurors are scared of retaliation.

00:09:12.000 I think more than one juror said that they were scared, right?

00:09:14.000 Do you guys remember?

00:09:16.000 I know there was one alternate.

00:09:17.000 I heard that.

00:09:18.000 And there may have, I think there was another guy who said like, yeah, we, yeah, there were two of them.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:22.000 And now we have the Rittenhouse trial coming up.

00:09:25.000 I am not convinced Rittenhouse will get a fair trial.

00:09:29.000 A lot of people have said that they think he will, and I'm like, why would anybody go up against this machine where these people can send all these death threats and nothing bad happens to them?

00:09:41.000 These people are literally destroying buildings and attacking people, and they're called the victims.

00:09:46.000 I don't know, man.

00:09:46.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:09:47.000 It's a kind of an example of how like law, law is one thing, but you got to kind of put

00:09:52.000 the law aside when you're looking at what's going on right now around the world.

00:09:56.000 Violence is the last resort.

00:09:59.000 Absolute last, last desperation resort.

00:10:02.000 You do not do it because if you do it, court of public opinion goes after you.

00:10:06.000 You see 1,600 people issued this guy death threats?

00:10:10.000 1,600 people, they were gonna go... Well, he received 1,600 death threats, maybe some of them were dollars.

00:10:13.000 Yeah, as far as he was concerned, his life was over, so he took his own life.

00:10:16.000 Like, that was without the legal system. 0.98

00:10:18.000 I mean, obviously, the legal system was busting this guy's balls too, but... 0.80

00:10:22.000 I mean, I think the common thread here is that it's the politicization of our reality. 0.92

00:10:27.000 And in violent instances is where it's the most maybe pronounced.

00:10:30.000 But like, I mean, just look at obviously all the All the COVID stuff.

00:10:34.000 Sorry if I'm quiet there, folks.

00:10:35.000 I'll get a little closer here.

00:10:37.000 With all the COVID stuff, I mean, there's, you know, it's, or if you want to talk about the quote unquote lab leak hypothesis, that was politicized because, you know, Trump went one way and everybody else went the other.

00:10:48.000 And so there was, there was that one doctor who said it, that we initially dismissed this because it was Trump who said it.

00:10:53.000 Am I allowed to say COVID on YouTube?

00:10:55.000 Yeah.

00:10:56.000 But be careful because if you say, if you add the 19 afterwards, no, I'm kidding.

00:11:01.000 They got weird rules.

00:11:02.000 The rules are absolutely weird.

00:11:03.000 I'm aware of them for sure.

00:11:06.000 The weird thing is like if Biden farted in public and someone recorded it on their iPhone, that would become political because of why?

00:11:13.000 Social media?

00:11:15.000 If Biden voided his bowels because of his old age, they would claim that it's completely normal.

00:11:21.000 It's like, oh, it's not a big deal, it's a normal thing, don't worry about it.

00:11:24.000 You would get tens of thousands of views on Twitter, comments, retweets.

00:11:28.000 I gotta be honest, they'd probably get banned.

00:11:29.000 They'd say, it's fake, it's manipulated, it's manipulated, he didn't actually void his bowels, he just took a dump.

00:11:33.000 I'm wondering if we need to change the way our courts work.

00:11:36.000 Because how can you get a fair trial in this day and age?

00:11:38.000 I gotta stress this point, man.

00:11:41.000 I think the law is absolutely... Well, I shouldn't say absolutely, because I'm exaggerating, but I think the law is very much so meaningless in a certain sense.

00:11:49.000 Obviously, we follow the laws.

00:11:51.000 We recognize what the laws are to the best of our abilities.

00:11:55.000 There's a lot of laws people don't know about.

00:11:57.000 I was watching this video on Never Talking to Cops, and the guy points out it's a crime to accept sea creatures, like seafood or creatures or whatever, from someone if they obtained it.

00:12:10.000 It's like, if it's illegal in another country to obtain it and they trade it to you, you committed a crime in the U.S.

00:12:15.000 There are laws that are really, really weird, right?

00:12:15.000 What?

00:12:18.000 The problem is though, We can follow the laws to the best of our abilities.

00:12:21.000 We can live peacefully.

00:12:22.000 We say, you know, violence is wrong.

00:12:24.000 The issue, though, is it's cultural.

00:12:27.000 If the law is don't do acts, but no one's willing to prosecute it, the law may as well not exist.

00:12:32.000 Right.

00:12:32.000 So if the law may as well right.

00:12:35.000 The law may as well right now be do not vandalism.

00:12:39.000 Destruction of private property is a crime, a felony punishable by up to a year in jail or a class A misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail.

00:12:48.000 If you're right-wing.

00:12:50.000 That's what it should say.

00:12:50.000 Or it should say, you know, an exemption is included for anyone who toes the establishment line.

00:12:55.000 Like the age-old situation is if you have the mob, the crowd, the populace on your side, the court's going to side with you.

00:13:02.000 They're going to get you off or they're going to prosecute who you want to prosecute.

00:13:05.000 And if you know the judge, they're going to get you off.

00:13:08.000 Sort of.

00:13:09.000 I think that's how it kind of used to be.

00:13:12.000 But knowing the judge was connections and access to resources.

00:13:16.000 There's two motivating factors here.

00:13:19.000 One would be greed, where the judge is like, oh, that's so-and-so's kid.

00:13:23.000 If I could do him a favor.

00:13:25.000 The other is fear.

00:13:27.000 Oh, if I don't prosecute this guy, they're gonna show up and burn my house down, whatever they say.

00:13:31.000 So now we have a two-tiered justicism.

00:13:34.000 You can call it a narco-tyranny, or you can call it something worse.

00:13:37.000 You've got ideological courts, where they'll be like, well, they're protesting, arrest the guy, give him all the charges in the book, he's going to prison.

00:13:45.000 And then when the death threats come in, we don't care.

00:13:48.000 No one's protesting that.

00:13:50.000 So long as regular people, the politically homeless, conservatives, whatever, don't protest, They've lost their chance, in my opinion, to be completely honest, too.

00:14:00.000 There was maybe a period five, six years ago where the right could have gone out and done big mass peaceful protests.

00:14:06.000 Now, you get a handful of guys to walk out with American flags, and they'll scream, the far right's coming, the far right's coming, the media will claim you're a white supremacist or a Nazi, and they'll shut it down in two seconds.

00:14:15.000 How do you fix it?

00:14:16.000 Do you get the jurors all over the world to port in on, like, video chat and listen to the trial and then vote anonymously?

00:14:22.000 Well, I mean, I think it's the real problem here is that our court system, everybody's so accessible now.

00:14:28.000 So, like, everybody's a public figure in some way.

00:14:30.000 You know, so if you're if you're a juror or if you get doxed, you know, basically people can access you.

00:14:36.000 And it's not fun getting death threats.

00:14:39.000 I mean, 1500 of them is That's a lot of death threats.

00:14:42.000 1,600.

00:14:43.000 1,600.

00:14:44.000 And I mean, I've gotten maybe, I don't know, 100, something like that.

00:14:49.000 But like...

00:14:50.000 None of those get taken seriously?

00:14:51.000 They don't go after any of those people?

00:14:53.000 It makes you feel unsafe, for sure.

00:14:54.000 Just, you know, tangentially, like, you know, there's a digital world and there's a real world, but you think about the crossover, and like, you know, that's scary.

00:15:03.000 I guess the problem is, if they started prosecuting this stuff immediately, it maybe never would have gotten this far in the first place.

00:15:08.000 Like, they are letting it get worse and worse until I think there's gonna be a snap.

00:15:14.000 Like, when regular people don't feel safe anymore and they just lose their mind, you know what I mean?

00:15:18.000 It's like, it's almost like enduring some kind of torture, where every day you're inundated with these stories about violence against regular people, about how the justice system is against you, and then you just, you don't feel safe, right?

00:15:31.000 So there was this report a while ago, it was talking about the Arab Spring, and I might be getting this wrong, but I believe that they basically said, like, there's a...

00:15:40.000 Three things that people need, and it's food, shelter, and security.

00:15:44.000 They need to know, the security is their knowledge that they can exist, they can survive, they'll be able to, you know, live.

00:15:52.000 They need a place to live, and they need to eat food.

00:15:55.000 And if you take one of those things away, in large enough numbers, you'll get a revolution.

00:16:00.000 So, security is extremely important.

00:16:02.000 The idea that people feel safe and secure and can trust that they won't be gulag-ed, I suppose.

00:16:09.000 But that's going away!

00:16:11.000 It's going away when you get to stories like this, and you get everything we've seen now.

00:16:15.000 I think the Rittenhouse thing's gonna be really serious.

00:16:19.000 You don't gotta say anything, I'll say it.

00:16:22.000 Actually, I'll quote Destiny.

00:16:24.000 Destiny is a leftist, we had him on the show, and he said it was the clearest cut case of self-defense he had ever seen.

00:16:30.000 Kyle Rittenhouse and what happened.

00:16:32.000 I mean, I obviously can't say anything on that.

00:16:35.000 Right.

00:16:37.000 Playing the role of witness makes you acutely aware.

00:16:39.000 I mean, because you, you, that's a role.

00:16:42.000 Your role is to say what you saw and not inject, you know, any opinion on that.

00:16:47.000 And just like based on the media coverage that happened after Kenosha, I was, I was viewed one way or another by this group or that.

00:16:55.000 And by the way, I'm no friend of either side because I'm also a victim in that case.

00:17:00.000 Well, let's, let's, let's, let's talk about January 6th.

00:17:03.000 You can talk.

00:17:03.000 Yeah.

00:17:04.000 So we can say why you can't talk about Rittenhouse, right?

00:17:11.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a pending case and I'm a witness.

00:17:14.000 Right.

00:17:14.000 So we can get to the point of this by talking about something else January 6, where the New York Times, they called you a rioter.

00:17:22.000 They did.

00:17:23.000 In print.

00:17:24.000 They printed it.

00:17:24.000 Oh wait, there was a correction that was like a number of pages later.

00:17:28.000 You open up the New York Times Magazine and I can just imagine my friend's parents at home just, it's a nice Sunday.

00:17:36.000 Richie!

00:17:37.000 Oh my god!

00:17:38.000 I mean, actually, you know what?

00:17:39.000 I'll take a death threat over... I got called, uh, Yashara Lee posted a thread of photos of what that guy, and I'm not gonna name the photographer, you know who you are, you know what you saw, and you saw me looking for my phone.

00:17:54.000 And that caption still went in there, calling me a rioter who punched a door.

00:17:58.000 And they issued two corrections and this is still outstanding New York Times

00:18:02.000 You should still be scared because what happened there was I?

00:18:07.000 because Of the way that I looked and because I just been pepper

00:18:11.000 sprayed and because I had like, you know wet hair and I was I looked desperate and I was

00:18:17.000 they Labeled me as something and to that image. Mm-hmm

00:18:22.000 Mm-hmm that image and I got called a meth head like 200 times and I don't you have press credentials.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, you got snatched from me that day.

00:18:31.000 You're officially reporting and your phone falls.

00:18:33.000 I've congressional press credentials, right?

00:18:35.000 Yes congressional.

00:18:36.000 I can go in there on any given day and your phone falls and it's behind the door.

00:18:41.000 Well, I thought it was behind the door, so I was tapping on the window to ask the police.

00:18:44.000 It turned out the guy, and that's the most objectionable part of this whole situation is that There was another woman who was photographed two minutes later, and it's actually time-coded in the piece as two minutes later from my photo, and she's got a MAGA hat on, and she's crying, and it says, a woman was pepper-sprayed.

00:19:00.000 They called me a rioter because I'm, oh, knuckle-dragging Trump supporter.

00:19:03.000 I look like that.

00:19:04.000 And by the way, didn't vote for Trump, but I looked to be that way.

00:19:10.000 They didn't do any research.

00:19:11.000 And by the way, they relied on my reporting after what happened in Kenosha.

00:19:14.000 Well, they should have known who I am.

00:19:17.000 Let's say they didn't.

00:19:18.000 You don't look like a Trump supporter.

00:19:20.000 You look like a young white man. 0.96

00:19:22.000 I look like a Neanderthal.

00:19:23.000 They could frame it like you were some, you know, that's the narrative.

00:19:27.000 And I look angry and there's a broken window.

00:19:29.000 And even though I was tapping on it with one finger saying, please, officers, can you look for my phone at your feet?

00:19:34.000 And they were all obliging, by the way.

00:19:36.000 And they were looking down and they were, I was like, yeah.

00:19:38.000 Right there.

00:19:39.000 Is it down there?

00:19:40.000 Tapping.

00:19:40.000 Oh, I punched the door.

00:19:42.000 So this this photojournalist, they're the one who lied.

00:19:46.000 I don't know.

00:19:46.000 I don't know what the editorial process was.

00:19:49.000 I don't know who it was that wrote the caption, because in some news outlets, you know, sometimes editors write the captions, they edit the captions.

00:19:56.000 But there's a way to find out.

00:19:58.000 There is a way to find out.

00:19:59.000 And I can go that route.

00:20:00.000 I just have to wait for my dogecoin to go a little higher.

00:20:04.000 And it's bumping right now.

00:20:06.000 So there's one of two scenarios here.

00:20:08.000 This is really important to the conversation.

00:20:10.000 Either the photojournalist on scene who saw what happened lied because he wanted that juicy photo.

00:20:16.000 Look what I got.

00:20:17.000 Oh, I got that guy at the window.

00:20:19.000 Even though they knew that's not what happened, he lied.

00:20:20.000 Or maybe he didn't.

00:20:22.000 Maybe the editor said, hey, it looks like a writer.

00:20:24.000 I'll write that down and did not fact check.

00:20:27.000 Yeah, but here's the thing is, I don't know when the photographer found out what that caption was, but my point is that he was there two minutes later when that woman was photographed, and I was gone from that space, and here's what happened.

00:20:38.000 Right after I tapped on the window, every cop was looking down.

00:20:41.000 There were like 10 cops on the other side of that door, and I looked so desperate that they actually obliged, and then this guy tapped me on the shoulder and said, yo man, I got kicked back here.

00:20:48.000 I hugged him.

00:20:49.000 I said, thank you so much.

00:20:51.000 To all the cops, I went down the line and then I said, thank you to everybody.

00:20:54.000 I said, please, everybody be safe.

00:20:56.000 I'm done for the day.

00:20:56.000 I'm out of here.

00:20:57.000 And I'm not kidding.

00:20:58.000 People were clapping.

00:20:58.000 They were like, Oh, this guy found his phone.

00:21:00.000 Like he looked so desperate and sad.

00:21:01.000 And now he found it.

00:21:02.000 And I hugged the guy I hugged.

00:21:04.000 I said, can I hug you?

00:21:05.000 And he said, yeah.

00:21:06.000 And so it was a scene.

00:21:07.000 It was a true, like anybody who was there saw it.

00:21:10.000 And so I don't know if he was looking down at his fricking camera or whatever he was doing, but I want to find out.

00:21:14.000 Media organizations.

00:21:16.000 Are putting out fake news, making it impossible for us to know what is really going on.

00:21:22.000 And so I was having, I had a really long conversation lawsuits are for.

00:21:25.000 Yeah, but who can afford a hundred grand?

00:21:27.000 And then, and then the New York times puts a bunch of their high powered multimillion dollar lawyers on it and get it, get it crushed and say, Oh, it was an opinion.

00:21:34.000 Doge is bumping right now.

00:21:36.000 I was just bumping, I guess.

00:21:37.000 I was talking to a friend, man.

00:21:39.000 It's not a hundred grand, but it can get there very quickly.

00:21:42.000 It's crazy how many people there are that don't know what is going on in any capacity because they only absorb news passively.

00:21:51.000 So they turn on, they read the New York Times.

00:21:53.000 Yeah, like my friend's parents.

00:21:55.000 And they said I look like a terrorist and I can never, you know, and that's like, you know what?

00:22:00.000 My dad taught me to stand tall and that's what I'm gonna have to do here because I'm not gonna let those guys stomp on me like that because they think I look some way.

00:22:08.000 You look at the story, the segment we were just talking about before this one, the Gardner, you know, Jake Gardner.

00:22:12.000 He took his own life.

00:22:14.000 The mob was coming after him.

00:22:15.000 You see what happens when the media falsely frames things.

00:22:17.000 It makes them money to get the mob all angry.

00:22:20.000 And you know what, man?

00:22:21.000 They don't care.

00:22:22.000 They don't care that they burn the system down.

00:22:23.000 I genuinely believe.

00:22:25.000 I had a long conversation with Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay.

00:22:29.000 Mostly Peter Boghossian.

00:22:31.000 They're the guys from the... And Helen Pluckrose.

00:22:33.000 They were the crew that did the Subtle Squared Hoax. 0.51

00:22:34.000 But I was mostly talking to Peter Boghossian about how I think the media is the problem.

00:22:38.000 And he said he thought it was the universities talking about critical race theory, wokeness, the conflict and everything.

00:22:42.000 And I was like, it is... I'm not saying it's not.

00:22:45.000 I know critical race theory came out of universities.

00:22:47.000 But it only found its path to the mainstream because of social media algorithms and media manipulation.

00:22:53.000 You look at the curve of all of a sudden You see all these buzzwords appearing, LexisNexis data, showing like around 2010, the instances of the word racism skyrocket like a thousand percent, ten thousand percent.

00:23:09.000 This is what opens the door for all of this woke stuff from these universities.

00:23:14.000 But I will also concede as well that you had a lot of young people in universities now entering the workforce at a similar time being indoctrinated by these ideas.

00:23:22.000 But I genuinely believe the door was open because social media and news companies, there was this nexus event. 0.59

00:23:30.000 Where social media was destroying news companies, venture capitalist-funded firms jumped in with no care in the world for fact-checking or any credibility and started pumping out rage-bait garbage on Facebook.

00:23:41.000 Drives everybody insane.

00:23:42.000 Now, what's happened is, you can see this.

00:23:45.000 The New York Times quickly realized, in the mid-2010s, we can't compete with BuzzFeed! 0.93

00:23:51.000 BuzzFeed can just say some crazy garbage and get a million clicks!

00:23:55.000 We gotta play that game too. 0.98

00:23:56.000 So the New York Times gets on board.

00:23:59.000 We see this when like that opinion editor guy, he was forced to resign because he published an op-ed from Tom Cotton, which was like standard procedure, but they're like, we're going to do... That was about the Insurrection Act.

00:24:09.000 Right.

00:24:10.000 Yeah.

00:24:10.000 And they're like, we're going to do whatever the audience wants to make money and we're going to pander.

00:24:14.000 They hired that one woman, Sarah Jung, who was posting unrepentant racist things on Twitter for years. 0.96

00:24:20.000 But you know what?

00:24:20.000 Don't you don't you think that we're now in a divergent society where, you know, like the Twitterati and corporate media are going in one direction and normal common sense people are going in another?

00:24:31.000 And I just will say, like, the one thing I'll say about Kenosha, and I think that this is actually like a silver lining of kind of the Obstacle course that I had to navigate in terms of dealing with the media after what happened just trying to say what I saw.

00:24:45.000 So what happened was I went on Tucker because he asked me on first.

00:24:48.000 He was the only, you know, right after the shooting.

00:24:51.000 He said, you know, you want to see what happened.

00:24:52.000 And so I explained on that show.

00:24:56.000 live to his whole audience what I what he told me he was there for Kyle Rittenhouse why he was there what he said okay what he told me CNN then took that in a report and I won't name the reporter but he said McGinnis supported the conservative claim that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense and so then I emailed CNN legal and I said um You made a misstatement about me.

00:25:20.000 I relayed what the motivation of the shooter was.

00:25:24.000 He told me 15 minutes before the shooting.

00:25:26.000 Yes, exactly.

00:25:26.000 You were reporting.

00:25:28.000 And so you can do one of two things.

00:25:30.000 And this is America.

00:25:31.000 And when you want to get something done, you just threaten to sue people.

00:25:35.000 And I said, you can have me on to correct the record or prepare for court.

00:25:38.000 And guess what?

00:25:39.000 That reporter, I give him a lot of credit.

00:25:42.000 He had me back on probably because the CNN guys went to the legal department and said, you better fix this or we're going to, you know, and that was six minutes long that they did.

00:25:50.000 And you know what?

00:25:51.000 They did a very good job of covering the events after that fact.

00:25:54.000 Well, good for them.

00:25:55.000 I worked for Fusion, which was the ABC News Univision joint venture.

00:25:59.000 I was in San Jose and I was at this Trump event and there was a massive crowd running around beating people.

00:26:04.000 It was insane.

00:26:05.000 Many of them were Bernie supporters.

00:26:07.000 I know because some of them were carrying, you know, Bernie swag and said they were.

00:26:12.000 And, incidentally, that's incidental.

00:26:15.000 This guy comes out, and he's, you know, cheering, he's like, yeah, Trump!

00:26:18.000 And they're all screaming at him, spitting on him, and he just keeps walking.

00:26:20.000 He turns the corner, someone runs up with a heavy bag and smacks him in the head with it.

00:26:25.000 He starts bleeding, and I run up, I'm filming the whole thing, he starts crossing the street, the police escort him, I chase him down, you know, I'm running after him, I'm like, hey, can you tell me what happened?

00:26:34.000 And I'm filming.

00:26:35.000 So I get this very short clip where he's like, I'm just walking, and someone hits me.

00:26:38.000 The video gets like a million views in less than a day.

00:26:42.000 The PR team, I believe it was PR at Fusion, immediately got hit up by Fox News.

00:26:48.000 Can we have your reporter come on and tell us what happened?

00:26:53.000 The higher-ups messaged me, like, hey, do you want to go, like, we do PR, do you want to go on Cavuto?

00:26:58.000 I'm like, Fox News.

00:26:58.000 And I was like, what's that?

00:26:59.000 And I was like, should I?

00:27:01.000 I'm like, it's Fox News.

00:27:02.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah, you should totally do it.

00:27:04.000 And I was like, OK.

00:27:06.000 So I go on Fox News and talk about what happened.

00:27:08.000 I'm like, I got hit with a bag.

00:27:09.000 We don't know what it was.

00:27:10.000 And then people at the company, after seeing that I went on Fox News, called me a white supremacist.

00:27:16.000 I'm like, but they told me to do it! 0.89

00:27:18.000 See, the people who were running the company didn't know what they were really supporting when they hired young, psychotic, woke cult members.

00:27:25.000 They were just like, it's young activists!

00:27:27.000 So when, in their Gen X-er minds, they were like, doing PR is normal, we don't care if it goes on Fox News. 0.83

00:27:33.000 But they didn't realize that the tribalism of the younger Millennials and the older Gen Z was If you dare go on and talk to any of these people, you are them or worse.

00:27:44.000 It's an interesting phenomenon.

00:27:45.000 Don't you think there's a flip side too, though, where there's like, if you're on CNN, you're a communist or you're on MSNBC?

00:27:49.000 Nope, absolutely not.

00:27:50.000 No?

00:27:51.000 Absolutely not.

00:27:51.000 Politics only flows in one direction.

00:27:54.000 If a right-wing person goes and meets up with a left-wing person, they call the left-wing person right-wing.

00:28:00.000 There's no... Like, a left-wing person can go to a MAGA event and they're like, he's actually right-wing!

00:28:06.000 A right-wing person can go to a left-wing event and be like, the event was actually right-wing!

00:28:10.000 We put on an event called Ending Violence... It was a Meeting of the Minds or whatever.

00:28:14.000 Ending Violence, Racism, and Authoritarianism.

00:28:17.000 And we had Daryl Davis, the famed, like...

00:28:20.000 Uh, activist who got 200 plus Klansmen to quit the Klan.

00:28:24.000 He was our headline speaker.

00:28:26.000 And they claimed because we had some right-wing people, it was a far right event of racists.

00:28:31.000 So even if you have, you know, Daryl Davis and prominent, we had, we had leftists, we had social justice activists.

00:28:37.000 They showed up.

00:28:38.000 The whole event was far right.

00:28:39.000 They threatened to burn down the theater.

00:28:40.000 The theater canceled on us.

00:28:41.000 We had to move it to a casino in order, in order to hold it.

00:28:43.000 And we ended up losing half our capacity and we sold, we had sold out.

00:28:46.000 So we had lost a ton.

00:28:48.000 And what do you do?

00:28:49.000 You threaten to sue.

00:28:50.000 Well, I think that's the point is you have to attack the gatekeepers, right?

00:28:55.000 And the gatekeepers of, you know, the way that people, especially after all the lockdowns, the way that people interpret reality is through the media.

00:29:01.000 And so if, if something is being interpreted, something that's happening in reality is being interpreted incorrectly.

00:29:08.000 You go to the, you go to the people who, who put that forth.

00:29:11.000 So you call me this, you call me a rioter.

00:29:14.000 How did that happen?

00:29:15.000 I got two corrections out of the New York times.

00:29:17.000 It wasn't enough because they, they still printed right.

00:29:21.000 The fact that I was a rioter and put corrections behind it.

00:29:23.000 Want to know why?

00:29:25.000 Because it's more expensive to reprint.

00:29:27.000 Right.

00:29:28.000 And my reputation was worth, I don't know, what was it worth?

00:29:32.000 I darn well would like to find out because that was the sole reason why they didn't reprint the actual caption in print.

00:29:38.000 You're going to sue them?

00:29:40.000 I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to get to the bottom of it.

00:29:44.000 I think you should talk to Veritas.

00:29:45.000 No, I don't think I should at all because they're partisan actors in my mind.

00:29:48.000 All right.

00:29:49.000 And I want to approach this from the direction of truth and not from some kind of ideological side.

00:29:55.000 And I'm not like, oh, take down the New York Slimes because they're all commies or whatever. 0.99

00:30:00.000 I think Veritas wouldn't say that.

00:30:02.000 No, I understand.

00:30:04.000 I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah.

00:30:06.000 I, you know, they're viewed as a certain thing, um, by, you know, the greater media.

00:30:11.000 And I'd rather come at it as just an individual who's trying to stand tall for myself.

00:30:15.000 And, um, you know what, if whatever, maybe, maybe I'm a young, young enough to enter financial ruin for my, you know, for the sake of the truth.

00:30:24.000 I don't care.

00:30:26.000 Well, I don't care.

00:30:27.000 What I want them to know is that I'm willing to go the distance in order to get to the bottom of what happened.

00:30:31.000 And so if they want to settle to just set that aside, I don't know if I'm interested in that.

00:30:35.000 There's an interesting tweet that I saw from Jack Posobiec.

00:30:38.000 I saw it from Luke Rydkowski. I saw it from Mike Cernovich.

00:30:41.000 The ten stages of genocide.

00:30:44.000 Have you seen this this graphic at all?

00:30:46.000 Have you seen it?

00:30:46.000 All right.

00:30:48.000 So Jack Posobiec said, Assess.

00:30:51.000 And it's a graphic that has 10 steps.

00:30:53.000 It says the 10 Stages of Genocide.

00:30:54.000 Let me read them.

00:30:55.000 Number one.

00:30:56.000 Classification.

00:30:57.000 People are divided into us and them.

00:30:59.000 Number two.

00:31:00.000 Symbolization.

00:31:01.000 People are forced to identify themselves.

00:31:03.000 Number three.

00:31:04.000 Discrimination.

00:31:05.000 People begin to face systematic discrimination.

00:31:08.000 Four.

00:31:09.000 Dehumanization.

00:31:10.000 People equated with animals, vermin, or diseases.

00:31:14.000 Organization.

00:31:15.000 The government creates specific groups to enforce the policies.

00:31:19.000 Polarization.

00:31:20.000 The government broadcasts propaganda to turn the populace against the group.

00:31:25.000 Preparation.

00:31:26.000 Official action to remove and relocate people.

00:31:29.000 8.

00:31:29.000 Persecution.

00:31:30.000 The beginning of murders, theft of property, trial massacres.

00:31:34.000 9 is extermination.

00:31:35.000 Wholesale elimination of the group.

00:31:37.000 It is extermination and not murder because people are not considered human.

00:31:43.000 And 10 is denial.

00:31:44.000 The government denies it has committed any crime.

00:31:47.000 So, Mike Cernovich shared this.

00:31:48.000 Many people are sharing it, and they're asking where you think we are.

00:31:52.000 Mike Cernovich's post said 6.5, just before 7, that we are just about to see official action to remove and relocate people.

00:32:00.000 I saw many people responding to the meme saying they think we're at between six or seven.

00:32:05.000 I'm not entirely sure I'm convinced.

00:32:07.000 I think people might be really hyping things up.

00:32:10.000 Like, I understand there's like a lopsided justice system right now.

00:32:16.000 I understand there's problems.

00:32:17.000 But to say we're just about to see official action to remove a group of people?

00:32:22.000 I think that's going a little bit too far from a lot of these personalities.

00:32:25.000 I mean, what do you guys think?

00:32:27.000 Somewhere between three and six.

00:32:29.000 We didn't form an organization to take care of these people.

00:32:32.000 Well, that was already formed.

00:32:32.000 The Capitol Police.

00:32:33.000 They're expanding it.

00:32:35.000 They're becoming a new intelligence agency, and they're going nationwide.

00:32:38.000 Right.

00:32:38.000 That's why I said between, because it's not officially a new organization to do that.

00:32:42.000 It's just they're expanding it.

00:32:43.000 Well, that's semantics, bro.

00:32:43.000 Come on.

00:32:44.000 A current organization.

00:32:45.000 They didn't build the Republican Extermination Fund or anything.

00:32:45.000 That's semantics.

00:32:48.000 Do you know what the Secret Service is tasked with doing?

00:32:50.000 I have no idea.

00:32:51.000 Tracking counterfeit U.S.

00:32:52.000 dollars.

00:32:54.000 Did you know that?

00:32:55.000 What did you think they did?

00:32:55.000 No.

00:32:57.000 That's right.

00:32:59.000 Because that was... Dude, the Department of Energy is like the biggest weapons program on Earth.

00:33:04.000 I learned that in Wild West.

00:33:05.000 That's where I learned that fact about the Wild West.

00:33:07.000 The Secret Service?

00:33:08.000 Yeah, it was counterfeiting.

00:33:09.000 And so, of course, that's a semantic argument.

00:33:16.000 The argument put forth by Mike Cernovich was the Capitol Police are becoming a local police, a federal police agency just for the D.C., but now they're going to operate in California, Florida.

00:33:25.000 Look, man, you see these things, and I talked about this in Chicago, they'll knock the whole building down except for just the facade and claim it's the same building.

00:33:33.000 But everybody knows it's not the same building.

00:33:37.000 The law is that so long as one wall stands, it legally is.

00:33:41.000 So the floors are different, the size is different, and it's like a weird-looking building with this tiny, like, two-story front brick frame, and there's a steel building behind it or something ridiculous.

00:33:49.000 So anyway, but I don't completely disagree with you, Ian.

00:33:52.000 You know, it's a broad stretch to say between three and six.

00:33:55.000 So the first thing I'll point out is classification.

00:33:57.000 Obviously, we're all divided between us and them in a lot of different ways.

00:34:00.000 The left, the right, the far right, whatever.

00:34:03.000 Who's being forced to identify themselves?

00:34:06.000 Is anybody forced to do it?

00:34:08.000 I mean, this is America.

00:34:08.000 I'm not that worried.

00:34:10.000 I think we'll figure it out.

00:34:11.000 They've got the pronouns in the Twitter bio, but it's not for some organizations might fire you if you don't identify your pronouns.

00:34:18.000 So I think that's more of the question here is like, it's not your actual physical well-being more so as it's like your ability to operate in polite society, right?

00:34:26.000 As you know, somebody who's like, you know, if you lose PayPal, if you lose any access to banks and stuff like that, I mean, And that's, I mean, you heard about what's going on, right?

00:34:36.000 There was an announcement from PayPal working with the ADL to weed out extremist transactions.

00:34:40.000 And then Facebook, YouTube and Twitter announced that they're going to be targeting, what do they say, attacker manifestos in the far right, including the Proud Boys content.

00:34:50.000 So Proud Boys content is now, like, to be purged.

00:34:53.000 So they're not just talking about censorship now.

00:34:55.000 They're talking about financial restrictions and censorship.

00:34:58.000 And they're playing this game of the far right.

00:35:00.000 So all that needs to happen is a long enough campaign where enough media outlets call you far-right and then they can say, oh, but look, it's here, he's far-right, everyone knows it. 0.95

00:35:08.000 Someone, I think it was a Democratic politician, tweeted out that their people were vermin.

00:35:13.000 Did you guys see that last week? 0.99

00:35:14.000 Bro, they say maggots all day. 0.76

00:35:15.000 Yeah, maggots and vermin. 0.57

00:35:16.000 That's the dehumanization and then the extermination.

00:35:19.000 It's not murder if they're rats, you know?

00:35:22.000 Or maggots concerning.

00:35:24.000 So like, I mean, I've had both experiences, which is I've had reporters reach out to me about Kenosha, for example, and get totally like talk to him for hours and had them totally manipulate what I said, you know, for their own agenda.

00:35:36.000 But then I've also had, you know, situations where like Huffington Post and a New Yorker article that just came out by Paige Williams.

00:35:44.000 I talked to her at length and she didn't put that qualifier right wing Daily Caller in there.

00:35:50.000 And I talked to her afterwards and she said, yeah, because, you know, I talked to you and, you know, you, well, there, there are real journalists.

00:35:56.000 So there, I mean, my point is, is that it's not like this monolith of just bad people in the corporate media.

00:35:56.000 Yeah.

00:36:02.000 I think if you really make an effort to actually extend your hand and, and try to tell your truth to those people, rather than just shutting yourself down and say, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:10.000 You have this agenda and I'm not going to talk to you.

00:36:12.000 You might fall on your face a couple of times and the intercept might put a hit piece out on you.

00:36:12.000 Sure.

00:36:16.000 Yeah, totally.

00:36:18.000 At least you're trying and I think it some good comes of that the SPLC hit me up and

00:36:23.000 Asked for a statement. And so I wrote like a really long statement and I was like, I I genuinely think that Jack Dorsey's

00:36:30.000 stated intention is to have Basically everyone behind these platforms even people we

00:36:35.000 all kind of disagree shouldn't we all kind of agree shouldn't be like there's there's

00:36:39.000 There are free speed at free speech absolutists But you know, there's like certain things you shouldn't be

00:36:45.000 posting on social media like images of you know I'll just I'll leave it at that.

00:36:48.000 And I was like, Jack Dorsey told me that his goal is immutable social media, that he wants to make blockchain social media so nothing can ever be taken down.

00:36:55.000 And I'm like, bro, that's way over the top.

00:36:58.000 Like, I'm not asking for that.

00:37:00.000 I'm just like, let people have political opinions.

00:37:02.000 You don't ban him for saying learn to code.

00:37:03.000 He's like, nah, I don't believe him.

00:37:06.000 Or he doesn't have the power that people think he has on Twitter.

00:37:09.000 But so, this guy asks me, and I basically, you know, gave him a full and honest opinion, and he calls me a far-right reactionary.

00:37:15.000 I'm like, bro, if you actually... And so, what he did was, there's a clever thing that I think he did to avoid looking like he's lying.

00:37:23.000 He put my statement as an external link, instead of including it in the piece.

00:37:27.000 Because then when you go to it, you're like, oh, this guy's kind of moderate.

00:37:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:30.000 Like, he's not really far left or anything, but...

00:37:32.000 I think you tapped on a really important point right there, though, and that goes back to what we were saying about, you know, are we at the point where, you know, people are being identified as groups and, you know, removed like physically?

00:37:43.000 No, but and I like coach some like 20 somethings, you know, zoomers in hockey. 0.76

00:37:49.000 And one thing I noticed is the degree to which.

00:37:52.000 You can say whatever you want to them in person.

00:37:54.000 You can throw whatever words about you want and they won't really be phased.

00:37:59.000 But if somebody says something about them digitally, it's like it consumes them.

00:38:03.000 You know, even if it's just in a Snapchat, even if it's an Instagram comments or whatever, because that lives forever.

00:38:08.000 And so like if you Google whoever's name and this news outlet decides to say this, that's immutable.

00:38:16.000 And until, you know, something else becomes the top result, that's you.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, that's a big problem with the... Because what I've been looking at is, let's say culture... Politics is downstream of culture.

00:38:26.000 Big, popular, I think it was Breitbart book.

00:38:28.000 Then I realized that, well...

00:38:31.000 Culture is downstream of technology.

00:38:33.000 So these technological algorithms that are supporting, you know, rage trash bait, like they say, Ian Crosland's a psychopath, and then that gets retweeted, so then that fortifies the algorithm, and then all of a sudden psychopath and Ian Crosland start showing up.

00:38:46.000 That's why this digital statement is so much more powerful than a verbal statement, because it's feeding the technological problem.

00:38:53.000 A good example is some Gizmodo article.

00:38:57.000 This is really funny.

00:38:58.000 The left has like one video clip of me they love to regurgitate.

00:39:00.000 It's like the only real thing I guess they have.

00:39:03.000 And it's from like a year and a half ago.

00:39:05.000 And so Gizmodo wrote it up like a few months ago.

00:39:09.000 And in this article, where they take this clip out of context, they claim Tim Pool's mostly right-wing audience.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:39:15.000 Like, what does that mean?

00:39:18.000 Like did you poll them?

00:39:19.000 Do you know who the audience is?

00:39:20.000 And then what happened was a couple other outlets regurgitated the article and said

00:39:24.000 the same thing.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:39:26.000 And then someone put it on my Wikipedia.

00:39:27.000 Tim Pool's audience is mostly right wing.

00:39:29.000 Well, like I guess, you know, I don't know if it's still there or not, but in the talk

00:39:33.000 section you can see them saying like something about just because someone says it in an article

00:39:40.000 And they're like, well, then three articles have all claimed it, so we're not the ones to investigate.

00:39:45.000 If they say it's true, then we include it.

00:39:47.000 And I'm like, yo, none of these people have actually asked my audience who they are, what they believe.

00:39:51.000 And the Trump supporters, the diehard Trump supporters, really don't like me over my reaction to Joe Biden winning the election.

00:39:59.000 It's like, You know, we did a poll and found I think the biggest group

00:40:03.000 was libertarian.

00:40:04.000 The plurality was libertarian.

00:40:07.000 And then like Trump supporters, moderates, and then liberals.

00:40:12.000 And there were even some progressives.

00:40:13.000 What about Kanye West voters?

00:40:15.000 Oh, that's like 70%.

00:40:16.000 No, no, but the point is, what does it mean to be right-wing?

00:40:20.000 Are libertarians necessarily right-wing?

00:40:23.000 I mean, what happened to the left libertarians, of which made up most of the young people in the early 2010s, who are now the anti-SJW types?

00:40:23.000 Not necessarily.

00:40:30.000 Oh, it's certainly shifting.

00:40:31.000 I mean, I think we're in the midst of a shift, so obviously it's kind of up in the air right now, and it's a question of where the chips will fall.

00:40:37.000 But what does left and right even mean?

00:40:38.000 Nothing, man.

00:40:40.000 Nothing.

00:40:41.000 So here's the problem.

00:40:43.000 You go to somebody and, you know, we had Steve Bannon here.

00:40:45.000 Steve Bannon said he was far right.

00:40:47.000 And I was like, Steve, you just said tax the rich.

00:40:49.000 And he was like, well, I'm a populist.

00:40:50.000 And I'm like, how is that far right?

00:40:51.000 That's why I've always been opposed to that kind of, you know, characterization.

00:40:55.000 I mean, we have in America, because of the two party system, we have a very binary way of, like, viewing our reality.

00:41:01.000 And it's like, you know, growing up, I don't think it was that much of an issue.

00:41:06.000 Like, it was never like, oh, you know, are you Republican or a Democrat?

00:41:09.000 And now it's like, where do you fall?

00:41:12.000 What do you think of Donald Trump, huh?

00:41:16.000 Well, if you like him, you're fine.

00:41:18.000 Do you like him?

00:41:18.000 How much do you like him?

00:41:20.000 He's a funny guy.

00:41:21.000 Make America great again.

00:41:22.000 Do you avow?

00:41:23.000 Do you avow January 6th?

00:41:24.000 Avow?

00:41:25.000 Yeah.

00:41:26.000 Say it right now.

00:41:27.000 Disavow.

00:41:29.000 I disavow!

00:41:30.000 That's my point, though, is everything has to be a linchpin issue.

00:41:32.000 You know what the weirdest thing about online arguments is?

00:41:34.000 It's like some leftists will come up and they'll be like, well, you're complaining about Black Lives Matter.

00:41:39.000 Disavow January 6th!

00:41:41.000 And I'll go, I disavow January 6th.

00:41:42.000 It was awful.

00:41:43.000 It was really bad.

00:41:44.000 And they're like, well... And it's really funny right now because a lot of conservatives are saying, my body, my choice over, you know, vaccine stuff.

00:41:51.000 And the left is like, the pro-lifers have no idea what they're talking about.

00:41:54.000 And I'm like, I've always been pro-choice and I think my body, my choice pertains to all of it.

00:41:57.000 Yeah, they don't argue with me about it because they're like, what do we say about that guy? Oh, he's consistent in

00:41:57.000 Oh snap.

00:42:02.000 his positioning I'm like dude, it's because they don't understand what

00:42:06.000 libertarian is right? I'm not gonna pretend to be like big-ass libertarian in any way

00:42:10.000 I'm just kind of like I don't know and you kind of should leave people alone, I guess but you're right

00:42:15.000 I mean, it's a question of, like, cultural conservatism versus, like, I would argue that, you know, Trumpian conservatism has less of that cultural aspect of conservatism.

00:42:25.000 I don't think Trump is conservative.

00:42:27.000 Can we honestly say, like, 20 years ago, was Trump, like, anti-abortion?

00:42:34.000 Nope.

00:42:34.000 Democrat.

00:42:34.000 Nope.

00:42:35.000 Yeah.

00:42:35.000 Not at all.

00:42:36.000 While those are already right there.

00:42:37.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:42:38.000 Doing cocaine off of hookers. 1.00

00:42:39.000 Here's crazy dude. 1.00

00:42:40.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 The dude's not conservative.

00:42:42.000 And so he got a lot of new people into the Republican

00:42:42.000 He's populist.

00:42:45.000 But I want to go back to that SPLC thing.

00:42:45.000 party.

00:42:47.000 I mentioned this before.

00:42:48.000 I mentioned this the other day when they refer to me as a

00:42:50.000 reactionary and then show my full statement where I'm like I

00:42:54.000 said you know I said bigots have no place in polite society. 0.67

00:42:57.000 Like bigots, homophobes, transphobes, racists have no place in polite society.

00:43:02.000 He includes that and says that's reactionary. 0.96

00:43:03.000 It's like, okay, what you're really saying is that you're an insurrectionist.

00:43:07.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center, these organizations, and these activists are insurrectionists who want a complete upheaval and overthrow of the U.S.

00:43:14.000 government.

00:43:15.000 Because reactionary are the people who oppose the revolution.

00:43:18.000 So you can have leftist values.

00:43:20.000 You can believe in the progressive social justice cause.

00:43:23.000 But if you tell them they're wrong for wanting to burn everything to the ground, they'll call you a reactionary.

00:43:27.000 I literally come out, like, several times a month talking with people about healthcare, and I'm like, I think we need universal healthcare.

00:43:33.000 Like, a basic level, maybe.

00:43:34.000 I've leaned away from it a little bit because of the race-based vaccine rollouts, and my concern is that if we have government-based healthcare, and then the racists take over, they'll make everything race-based, and then withhold healthcare from people, basically.

00:43:45.000 That's scary.

00:43:47.000 But that's not left-wing.

00:43:48.000 I can say, tax the rich.

00:43:49.000 Not left-wing.

00:43:51.000 Do you support the upheaval and overthrow of American culture?

00:43:51.000 What is it?

00:43:55.000 Or don't you?

00:43:56.000 Because if you like apple pie and baseball or whatever, you're a reactionary.

00:44:01.000 You can believe in all the good social justice stuff.

00:44:03.000 You can make a documentary about blockbusting and redlining and racism.

00:44:08.000 Doesn't matter.

00:44:09.000 Will you support the revolution?

00:44:10.000 Yes or no?

00:44:11.000 But don't you think to a certain extent the quote unquote cultural revolution that you're referring to is mainstream now?

00:44:18.000 Like, don't you think that the critique is now the mainstream insofar as like the majority of people think that about apple pie and baseball?

00:44:26.000 That like, you know, America is corrupt and America is doomed to be racist and terrible forever?

00:44:32.000 I look at the polling, and I think it's fair to say that the ultra-woke make up a tiny percentage, relatively.

00:44:37.000 But it's growing, I think.

00:44:38.000 But in our media, I think it's a different story.

00:44:40.000 In the media, it's like 80%.

00:44:41.000 The algorithms.

00:44:42.000 It's caught the algorithm.

00:44:43.000 So I'm not talking about average, everyday Americans, because traveling around the country, that's not the case.

00:44:47.000 I'm not so convinced.

00:44:49.000 I'm talking to my friend, and we're arguing about vaccine passports and requirements and stuff like that.

00:44:59.000 I'll be light on the crux of the conversation because YouTube is ban-happy, but suffice it to say, I said, I don't trust the government blindly.

00:45:08.000 I'll consider what they say and consider the source.

00:45:10.000 You always consider the source.

00:45:11.000 I don't trust Big Pharma.

00:45:13.000 I don't.

00:45:13.000 And I don't understand why the left has come out in favor of a massive for-profit venture to transfer tax funds to major pharmaceuticals instead of talking about real ways to help save lives through the healthcare system.

00:45:25.000 That being said, I think vaccines are safe and effective.

00:45:28.000 I absolutely do.

00:45:29.000 And one thing I've absolutely stressed is that we've had like 360 million doses of the vaccine.

00:45:35.000 VAERS is serious.

00:45:37.000 The VAERS reporting is serious.

00:45:38.000 One of the problems is that when you censor the conversation, you freak people out.

00:45:43.000 So, this guy is coming at me arguing that by simply telling people to go talk to their own doctor about what's right for them and make sure the doctor, because I genuinely believe it's the right thing to do because people could have allergies or whatever, he's like, well, you're scaring people.

00:45:56.000 And I'm like, dude, when did you become the champion of Big Pharma?

00:46:00.000 Yeah, it's about the collective and not your individual decision.

00:46:02.000 And that's the ultimate point.

00:46:03.000 It's about the benefit of the collective over the individual, and the primacy of the individual is the foundation.

00:46:09.000 You know, the fact that every individual is inherited in the image of God.

00:46:12.000 That's America right there.

00:46:14.000 Exactly my point.

00:46:15.000 So to go back to what we were talking about before I got into that, That was the idea that there could be something so innately leftist.

00:46:22.000 Stop giving taxpayer funds to for-profit pharmaceutical companies.

00:46:26.000 And they actively defend it right now because it's for their collective has formed a narrative that must be upheld at all costs.

00:46:34.000 That's why we're in a paradigm shift right now.

00:46:35.000 The progressives are the corporatists now.

00:46:39.000 It's like my mom.

00:46:39.000 Right.

00:46:40.000 In the early, you know, late 60s, early 70s in Washington, D.C., she was a progressive who was fighting against... And I had this conversation with her the other day, and I was just like, yo, Ma, like, what's the, you know, what do you think about, like, you know, these modern feminists, these modern... And she's like, it's, you know, I can't say what she said because she's... 0.61

00:46:59.000 Because she's not family friendly.

00:47:01.000 And that's exactly what we're going, going back to what we were saying earlier is the critique has become the mainstream.

00:47:06.000 And so it's no longer revolutionary and it's become stale.

00:47:11.000 Corporatized.

00:47:11.000 And guess what?

00:47:12.000 I don't think it's like a corporate message now.

00:47:15.000 Wait, you mean you mean the activists?

00:47:18.000 Yeah, it's mainstream.

00:47:19.000 Exactly.

00:47:20.000 So I'm saying I thought you were saying criticizing the woke was mainstream.

00:47:22.000 No, no.

00:47:23.000 Well, not yet.

00:47:24.000 But I think that, you know, we're in the midst of a shift right now.

00:47:28.000 But all I'm saying is that when my mom was protesting in Washington, D.C., protesting the Vietnam War, that was very different from, you know, I think that was a fringe portion of the society.

00:47:40.000 It was the young people who thought one way.

00:47:42.000 And now the corporations think just like Those young people who are out in the streets.

00:47:47.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:47:48.000 This is the fourth turning.

00:47:49.000 You're familiar with the fourth turning, right?

00:47:52.000 Fourth turning?

00:47:53.000 Maria Bell?

00:47:53.000 No?

00:47:54.000 So, you know, it's the four seasons every 80 years.

00:47:57.000 Every 20 years you have a cycle.

00:47:59.000 Alright, so for those that aren't familiar, Strauss-Howe generational theory.

00:48:03.000 And so you've got the different seasons within it.

00:48:06.000 There's four periods, they're about 20 years long each.

00:48:10.000 What we're seeing right now with what you referred to as the paradigm shift, right?

00:48:14.000 Like, your mom was counterculture, opposing the major corporations. 0.80

00:48:18.000 Now the generation today, the young generation, is pro-corporate.

00:48:22.000 Amazon's got their Black Lives Matter, you know, Netflix, all these big, there's a video game, I can't remember what video game it was, it opened up and it said Black Lives Matter.

00:48:30.000 Attacking the establishment has become the establishment in a very weird way, but this is why I say it's the fourth turning.

00:48:37.000 When you had a youth, you had a culture of young people growing up being told to fight the power, you know, fight the system, fight the man.

00:48:46.000 Then when they all become adults and inherit the power, their worldview is still fight the power.

00:48:51.000 So now they're in power, telling everyone to fight the power.

00:48:55.000 Which leads us to the fourth season, the fourth turning.

00:48:58.000 The great conflict is, if you take an entire generation and tell them the system is broken and corrupt and you must fight back, they inherit the power and then start ripping it to shreds and gutting it, you're gonna get a crisis.

00:49:09.000 Imagine you're driving in a car and some dude's actively punching holes in the floor and trying to jam things against your driveshaft or something.

00:49:19.000 You're gonna crash!

00:49:20.000 But I think if we live in a flourishing, fully functioning society, then we actually raise people who are critical thinkers, who are able to shed their old self and see a new truth or change their perspective as they get older.

00:49:35.000 Sure.

00:49:35.000 Just like my mom did.

00:49:36.000 But did she really?

00:49:38.000 Well, I think she did.

00:49:39.000 You know, I think she had a certain way of viewing politics in the last five years that she's certainly changed.

00:49:45.000 I mean, maybe as a byproduct of like being, you know, me being her son, my younger brother, like caught her on like a work Zoom meeting, like.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, so everybody knows that, uh, you know, that's so it's all just media narratives and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, mom, mom, mom, you can't come on.

00:50:01.000 Like this is not for zoom calls.

00:50:03.000 It is.

00:50:04.000 My son told me this.

00:50:04.000 It is though.

00:50:05.000 So it really is.

00:50:06.000 It's like, you know, uh, hard times make strong men, strong men, strong men, make good times, good times, weak men, weak men, hard times, et cetera, et cetera.

00:50:13.000 Because you have this period of like, You know, look, the boomers, man, they were like hippies and protesters. 0.91

00:50:19.000 And now they're all leading these big corporations.

00:50:22.000 And what happened?

00:50:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:25.000 Have you seen SLC Punk?

00:50:27.000 That movie?

00:50:28.000 Have you seen SLC Punk, Ian?

00:50:29.000 Oh, come on, you guys.

00:50:29.000 No.

00:50:30.000 What's it about?

00:50:31.000 It's about this guy in Salt Lake City.

00:50:32.000 He's a punk.

00:50:33.000 And then it ends with him, like, wearing a suit.

00:50:35.000 And like at a certain point, people accept the establishment.

00:50:38.000 And, you know, it's really interesting to see how generations play a role in this.

00:50:43.000 The children of the Boomers, the Echo Boomers or the Millennials. 0.56

00:50:46.000 I like that word, Echo Boomer. 0.92

00:50:48.000 People don't call Millennials Echo Boomers, though.

00:50:51.000 They inherited a lot of the anger and rage of the fight the man, F the system from their Boomer parents. 0.95

00:50:56.000 So they grow up with that instilled completely in them.

00:51:00.000 And then when they inherit the system, the moment they do, they start doing all sorts of wacky, broken, F'd up BS.

00:51:06.000 Yeah, but so here's my question, is if everything that you're saying about, like, why?

00:51:12.000 Why is fighting the system now supporting Joe Biden?

00:51:15.000 Like, where did Bernie, you know, where did Bernie go?

00:51:18.000 That's a great question.

00:51:19.000 So that's Bernie.

00:51:20.000 Bernie.

00:51:20.000 Here's my point is, how did that like revolutionary movement get completely hijacked?

00:51:25.000 And now, like, the wool is over everybody's eyes or people actually awake to this.

00:51:28.000 And it's just our media is far removed from the way that, you know, everyone's like, wait a second, dude, collectivism.

00:51:35.000 I don't know.

00:51:36.000 I think it's an amalgam of the generation assumes the power and becomes the establishment while telling everyone to fight the establishment, not realizing it's them.

00:51:47.000 And so then they target the not-establishment.

00:51:50.000 Republicans have states.

00:51:51.000 That's what they have.

00:51:52.000 They control, what is it, 36 states or something like that?

00:51:55.000 That's not the power paradigm to a certain extent.

00:51:58.000 I mean, it's powerful having that many states.

00:51:59.000 If they get, I think, two more states or whatever, then they can have a constitutional convention.

00:52:03.000 But for the most part, in this country, universities, movies, video games, federal level politics, social media, it's all left, it's all progressive.

00:52:12.000 And that's what ultimately compels people to make decisions in their reality.

00:52:16.000 Like, government is one thing, and you make a very concerted decision.

00:52:20.000 You go to the polls to vote for this person because I ideologically think this, but in terms of like, I have a friend who I'm not going to name, similarly to why you wouldn't.

00:52:29.000 He has a wedding of his, his actually his best, best friend's brother in Canada.

00:52:34.000 Right.

00:52:35.000 And it's coming up and it's like, should I get vaccinated just to go to the wedding?

00:52:40.000 Cause my buddy's going to be sad if I don't.

00:52:43.000 And everybody at that wedding is going to say, where is he?

00:52:45.000 You know?

00:52:46.000 Oh, he's, he's not here.

00:52:47.000 Cause he doesn't have the vaccine.

00:52:48.000 He couldn't get over the border.

00:52:50.000 Social pressure.

00:52:51.000 And so then it's social, it's social pressure.

00:52:53.000 That's compelling you to make a medical decision.

00:52:56.000 And that's the problem I have with it.

00:52:58.000 And that specific subject, like, you gotta talk to your doctor, man.

00:53:02.000 He did, and yeah, it's doctor, well, I'm not gonna say what his doctor said.

00:53:08.000 He made his decision, but that's what I told him.

00:53:11.000 All his friends were saying something different.

00:53:13.000 Did he end up going?

00:53:15.000 I think what's gonna happen, and I don't wanna say too much because I'm not sure, he's gonna try to go without the, you know, situation.

00:53:24.000 Recommendation for him.

00:53:27.000 Your doctor might tell you, man, like, look, you talk to a doctor and they might actually tell you, you might be surprised.

00:53:27.000 And see what happens.

00:53:35.000 I can't believe there's so many people who don't trust their doctors, to be completely honest.

00:53:38.000 Well, here's the amount of people that are telling that individual, yo, like, I can't believe that you would do that, you know, because it's a medical, personal medical decision that he's making.

00:53:38.000 Exactly.

00:53:48.000 And it's becoming this, like, you're a bad person because you think, because you're doing that.

00:53:53.000 It's like the collective.

00:53:55.000 Oh, what about everybody else?

00:53:56.000 With this genocide thing, splitting people into groups, I was thinking about the vaxxed and the non-vaxxed as opposed to the pronouns.

00:54:04.000 It's not just maggots and liberals or whatever.

00:54:09.000 Did you get the vaccine? 0.82

00:54:10.000 Yeah, what vaccine?

00:54:11.000 For what?

00:54:12.000 Don't be so tongue in cheek.

00:54:14.000 There's a funny crossover there between, like, the granola major lefties who are anti-vax for a certain reason.

00:54:19.000 Right, right, right.

00:54:20.000 The hippie crystal marionettes are.

00:54:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:22.000 And so, like, it's a weird, like, you know, the Marianne Williamson supporters.

00:54:25.000 Oh, people who want to live naturally, and then the people that actually are afraid of the vaccine are, like, different types of people.

00:54:30.000 See, no, no, this... Growing up, anti-vaxxers were lefties, right?

00:54:32.000 Left libertarians, man!

00:54:34.000 This is what I can't stand when I go on Political Compass memes on Reddit.

00:54:37.000 You ever see it?

00:54:38.000 It's a great subreddit, by the way.

00:54:39.000 It's really funny.

00:54:40.000 Political Compass memes.

00:54:41.000 Because they wreck on everybody.

00:54:43.000 But they keep claiming the libertarian left is Antifa and woke.

00:54:46.000 And I'm like, that's not what the libertarian left is.

00:54:50.000 The woke Antifa left are authoritarians who want to beat people.

00:54:54.000 I mean, there was a video that was posted by Ford Fisher where there were guys outside of a medical facility and they were anti-mask.

00:55:02.000 They were like, don't wear masks!

00:55:03.000 And Antifa showed up and started beating them for not following state guidelines.

00:55:06.000 That is not left libertarian.

00:55:08.000 Left libertarians are like Marianne Williamson.

00:55:11.000 They insult her.

00:55:13.000 They called her the woo-woo crystal lady, and she was like, I don't have crystals!

00:55:17.000 But you want to know what Left Libertarian is?

00:55:20.000 It is the hippies who are like, I eat tree bark because it cured my skin rash, or whatever. 0.76

00:55:28.000 They're the hippies, the weirdo, the crystal-wearings.

00:55:30.000 And look, Luke, We love Luke, but he wears crystals too, and he's like a Nancat. 1.00

00:55:35.000 Your bones are made of crystal.

00:55:37.000 Hydroxyapatite.

00:55:38.000 I think your bones are made of graphene.

00:55:42.000 The point is, left libertarians are these people.

00:55:46.000 And the reason why they're adamantly opposed is for personal decision reasons, for the most part. 0.95

00:55:52.000 But they get mocked as kooky and crazy.

00:55:54.000 And what's funny is whenever I bring up, I was talking to a lefty friend of mine about lefty conspiracies, and of course I mentioned Russiagate.

00:56:01.000 and Ukrainegate and all this stuff, and they're like, well, I don't know, man.

00:56:04.000 Well, we'll see.

00:56:05.000 That's still out.

00:56:06.000 We'll see what happens.

00:56:07.000 Yeah, we're waiting for the Mueller report to drop.

00:56:09.000 That's right.

00:56:10.000 No, but they think that Mueller will be revealed, and I'm like, bro, this is blue and non-level stuff.

00:56:15.000 And then when I mention the lefty anti-vax people, which were the preeminent anti-vaxxers to begin with, they're like, that's not true.

00:56:23.000 Those people aren't left-wing.

00:56:24.000 And I'm like, have you talked to them?

00:56:26.000 They are as lefty, commune, hippie, flower-wearing as you can get.

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 I mean, it's the same thing as the, you know, basically like this weird progressive support for the police state and the intelligence state.

00:56:39.000 And it's like, yo, I was like, I grew up anti-Bush, anti-Iraq war.

00:56:43.000 And as a result, like anti-Patriot act.

00:56:46.000 And like, if like I were a true lefty, I'd be supporting like the CIA right now.

00:56:53.000 Like what?

00:56:54.000 We just watched Southland Tales.

00:56:57.000 You ever see it?

00:56:59.000 It was made in, what year was it, 2007?

00:56:59.000 No.

00:57:00.000 I don't know.

00:57:02.000 It's, I think 2007, maybe 2006, and it was made by the guy who did Donnie Darko, and it's like, man, you guys gotta check this movie out, because it was written about a future, not too distant future, Where like a nuclear war happens and then you've got the Republicans who expand the Patriot Act and the Democrats who have like, there's like the rise of the neo-Marxist movement.

00:57:25.000 It's just really fascinating to watch a movie from the mid-2000s to see where the liberals thought our society would go.

00:57:33.000 Because boy, were they wrong.

00:57:34.000 They were like, the Republicans were going to become, you know, authoritarian, expanding the Patriot Act, all that stuff.

00:57:40.000 And instead, what did we get?

00:57:41.000 We got the reality TV star, real estate guy, who calls him a horse face on Twitter.

00:57:47.000 Like, certainly not the same.

00:57:48.000 He won't even call in the police to deal, he won't call in federal, the Insurrection Act, to deal with riots.

00:57:54.000 In that movie, they actually had like special forces that were just shooting Marxists.

00:57:59.000 Like, that's what these people thought was going to happen back then.

00:58:02.000 Didn't happen.

00:58:03.000 So I gotta ask, in this movie, was a Republican the president or was a Democrat the president?

00:58:07.000 Because Obama was elected and then everyone was like, oh my gosh, this is such a great thing.

00:58:12.000 You know, I'm not a big fan of the movie, to be completely honest.

00:58:12.000 I can't remember.

00:58:15.000 I was kind of half watching it.

00:58:17.000 But it very much so, it's got a ton of people, like Sarah Michelle Gellar's in it, Justin Timberlake's in it, The Rock's in it.

00:58:21.000 Weird.

00:58:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:23.000 Sean William Scott, is that his name, he's in it?

00:58:25.000 Idiocracy is probably more prophetic than... 0.97

00:58:25.000 Yeah, Stifler. 0.97

00:58:28.000 Definitely.

00:58:29.000 Yeah.

00:58:29.000 Idiocracy for sure.

00:58:30.000 You know, it's actually a great book that, um, there's actually the last book that my dad ever gave me before he passed.

00:58:35.000 But it's, it's significant in that respect because it's called arrogance and it's, um, it's Bernard Goldberg and it's, it's the sequel to bias, but basically the subhead for that book is rescuing, rescuing America from the media elite.

00:58:35.000 Sorry.

00:58:35.000 Yeah.

00:58:49.000 And in that book, what he predicts is, you know, at that time in 2003, I think it was written.

00:58:54.000 The nightly news was getting like 25 million views per broadcast.

00:59:00.000 And he's like, that is all going to crumble.

00:59:02.000 And as it crumbles, they'll be trying to cling to control of the narrative.

00:59:06.000 And I mean, that's really what we're witnessing.

00:59:08.000 I mean, papers and, you know, the nightly news, cable news, it's all collapsing and they have to just, you know, trump up ratings.

00:59:15.000 I mentioned this six years ago because the CEO of Vice said there was going to be a bloodbath in digital.

00:59:20.000 He was like, it's not gonna last.

00:59:22.000 And the reason for it, in my opinion, was that a lot of these digital news outlets were doing this trick called, it was called like ads, ad rights, yeah, ad rights assignments, something like that.

00:59:33.000 Here's what they would do.

00:59:34.000 They would, you'd make a website and we'll call it like superawesomenews.com or whatever.

00:59:39.000 Well, I shouldn't actually say a word.

00:59:40.000 We'll call it, you know, just xnews.com.

00:59:43.000 Wait, that's actually probably a name of a news organization.

00:59:45.000 I'm pretty sure that is, yeah.

00:59:47.000 Hypothetical non-existent news organization.

00:59:49.000 Perfect.

00:59:50.000 And let's say it gets 10 million views per month.

00:59:52.000 They want to sell ads.

00:59:55.000 But that's not a whole lot of traffic.

00:59:57.000 What they do is they license the rights to views from ClickFarms.

01:00:03.000 So you'll get a generic ClickFarm website.

01:00:07.000 That it will be like, look at all these pictures of, you know, Tom Cruise, like, smiling.

01:00:12.000 And then it'll say, like, 25 photos of crazy celebrity photos.

01:00:15.000 And every time you click one, it makes you reload a new page.

01:00:18.000 Because that turns one person, one article, into 25 pages.

01:00:23.000 Then, here's what happens.

01:00:25.000 The news organization then buys the rights to those views, and claims there are views, and all of a sudden now, this small news outlet is getting 100 million views per month!

01:00:33.000 That's crazy!

01:00:35.000 So, you know, he was saying there's gonna be a bloodbath.

01:00:37.000 I said, these companies don't realize they're on the way out.

01:00:41.000 And their views, even cable TV, are going down, down, down every day.

01:00:45.000 I know we saw a big spike because of Trump, but it's going down.

01:00:48.000 They're bleeding.

01:00:49.000 It's consolidating in a lot of ways.

01:00:51.000 But it's like, in order for the New York Times to survive, it must create more entropy around it than, you know, negates.

01:00:58.000 To put it this way, You might have a hundred million subscribers to news outlets nationwide through all the different local outlets.

01:01:06.000 But most people are canceling those subscriptions and the New York Times is picking up only some of them.

01:01:11.000 Everyone else is getting news for free from rage bait trash.

01:01:14.000 So the New York Times might see its subscribers go up a few million as the country sees total subscriptions go down.

01:01:20.000 They're gonna lose their influence, they're gonna make good money, and they're gonna start thrashing about violently once they realize they're drowning.

01:01:27.000 It's like when, you know, when someone starts suffocating and they start just violently flailing and freaking out.

01:01:32.000 That's what we're gonna see from the media.

01:01:33.000 That's what we are seeing from the media.

01:01:34.000 It's like if it's a boat that's sinking, and they're looking around the ocean, all desperately scanning the horizon.

01:01:40.000 They see far off in the distance some chaos.

01:01:42.000 They zoom in on it.

01:01:43.000 They copy it, and then they blast it out on the airwaves over and over and over again.

01:01:47.000 It's this tiny dot in the far distance in one direction, but they're making it seem like it's the center focus.

01:01:52.000 Exactly.

01:01:53.000 So I'll tell you what we get from this.

01:01:57.000 I mentioned this when I did my algorithmic psychosis rant last week or whatever, that people end up growing up living in this world where the only news they get is that all cops are bad, all cops are racist, and it's because, like you said Ian, they're looking in this vast ocean and they see this one tiny dot and it's the only thing they're showing to people.

01:02:16.000 Check out this story from the Daily Mail.

01:02:19.000 Minnesota fourth graders are given equity survey on race and gender and are told by teacher not to skip questions even if they don't understand them and not to tell their parents.

01:02:29.000 Let me just show you one of the questions.

01:02:31.000 Number 46.

01:02:32.000 Do you currently identify yourself as female, male, transgender?

01:02:35.000 Transgender people have a gender identity or gender expression that differs from their assigned sex.

01:02:40.000 For example, they were born male but now identify as female or something else.

01:02:43.000 And you can choose female, male, transgender, non-binary.

01:02:47.000 Why is a fourth grader being told to, first of all, out themselves the teacher should they actually have a, you know, a trans or non-binary identity?

01:02:55.000 Why are the kids being handed this stuff on equity in this survey, given this questions?

01:03:01.000 What I think is, these teachers, likely millennials, grew up Getting exposed to the social media over the past 10 years, nothing but extremist content that generated rage.

01:03:12.000 Their whole worldview was built on it, and now they're giving it to the kids.

01:03:17.000 They are transferring that tenfold to children, who are not going to have the same opportunity to have... You know, millennials didn't completely grow up on the internet, to a great deal they did, but I know a lot of people who didn't get internet until they were late teenagers.

01:03:30.000 At least you had some opportunity to use a phone mounted to the wall, you know, a touch-tone phone or something.

01:03:34.000 Yeah, it took you ten minutes to write one paragraph.

01:03:37.000 These little kids are not only going to grow up on social media, being inundated with nothing but critical race applied principles, but they're going to be getting it from their teachers as well.

01:03:48.000 I can't remember who it was.

01:03:48.000 And you know what?

01:03:50.000 I should write down the quotes.

01:03:51.000 But someone on the show said, parents don't care about their children at all.

01:03:56.000 And the example is that they're being sent off to institutionalized learning facilities where the parents don't know what they're being taught, don't know what they're being exposed to, and to a great deal don't care.

01:04:07.000 A lot of parents do care.

01:04:09.000 Steve Bannon's bet is that come August 15th when the parents find out what's going on, they're going to lose it.

01:04:13.000 But I think it's a really good point if you think about it.

01:04:16.000 Parents say, I'm going to send my kids to school and then hope for the best.

01:04:21.000 Now, by all means, I understand some people may have normalized this behavior.

01:04:24.000 Some people probably get really offended by me saying this, saying, Tim, you don't have kids, you know what you're talking about.

01:04:28.000 But I can say this, if you are not at the very least actively asking your children, what is going on at school?

01:04:34.000 Show me your assignments, show me your books.

01:04:36.000 Then I don't think you really care what strangers... Or just spending time with them, God forbid.

01:04:40.000 Well, yeah, but that's like, obviously, if you care about your kids, spend time with them.

01:04:43.000 What I'm saying is, I get it.

01:04:45.000 Send your kids to school.

01:04:46.000 I think there's issues.

01:04:47.000 I think you should homeschool.

01:04:48.000 I think we should do more of the pod learning.

01:04:50.000 I was homeschooled quite a bit.

01:04:52.000 I think if you were really concerned about what schools were doing to your kids, you'd, for one, you'd pay a whole lot of attention to the school boards, you'd pay attention to the school curriculums, and a lot of parents do.

01:05:01.000 I think a lot of parents don't.

01:05:02.000 And that's probably why they're the more lefty Democrat voters.

01:05:06.000 Don't you see, though, like, don't you see pushback in American society right now against what you're talking about?

01:05:11.000 And like, this goes back to what we're saying.

01:05:13.000 Critical theory is a critique, right?

01:05:14.000 What do you mean by pushback?

01:05:16.000 Well, I'm saying all of the school board meetings that are going viral and, you know, all these parents and these kids and teachers speaking out and the way in which, you know, this whole concept of critical theory is a big Critical race theory is a big conversation right now.

01:05:31.000 And that's important.

01:05:32.000 I agree.

01:05:32.000 How many school board battles are there right now?

01:05:34.000 Well, that's how the tide turns, though.

01:05:36.000 It's like we're at high tide right now and it's shifting.

01:05:39.000 Do you know how many school board battles there are?

01:05:42.000 I don't know.

01:05:42.000 I'm not trying to put you on the spot.

01:05:43.000 I'm genuinely asking if you were familiar.

01:05:45.000 I don't have the answer.

01:05:46.000 I have a general estimate.

01:05:47.000 It's a good question.

01:05:48.000 I mean, we run them all the time because I think it's, you know, it's a it's a government feed so you can it's non-commercialized so you can just run it as is.

01:05:54.000 Have you got have you guys seen any hard numbers on how many school boards are in?

01:05:58.000 I've seen one article that mentioned it was like between six and seven hundred.

01:06:02.000 School boards are in revolt.

01:06:03.000 How many are there in total?

01:06:04.000 There are 98,271 public grade schools between 2013 and 2014.

01:06:06.000 So we hear these stories and we're like, the parents are fighting back!

01:06:08.000 At how many schools?

01:06:08.000 Yes!

01:06:08.000 271 public grade schools as of between 2013 and 2014.

01:06:14.000 98000.

01:06:15.000 So we hear these stories and we're like the parents are fighting back.

01:06:19.000 Yes.

01:06:20.000 At how many schools out of the nearly 100000 schools are the

01:06:26.000 kids.

01:06:26.000 The kids are all being indoctrinated.

01:06:29.000 I tell you this right now, that fourth grader is what, nine years old?

01:06:33.000 Nine more years until she votes for a Marxist. 0.97

01:06:36.000 If you're a teacher and you're telling the kids not to talk to their parents, you are enacting child abuse on that kid.

01:06:42.000 That kid has a right and a duty to communicate with its parents.

01:06:46.000 If you're a parent, ask your kid what they learned at school today.

01:06:49.000 But that's exactly what they're doing.

01:06:51.000 We saw that book where it's like, you're lying to me, mom.

01:06:54.000 You do not encourage your kids to lie to their parents.

01:06:56.000 I think parents don't care about their kids.

01:06:58.000 Why would you think that?

01:07:01.000 Is this what you've been told lately?

01:07:03.000 I was homeschooled.

01:07:05.000 I was homeschooled before kindergarten, and then I went to a private Catholic school until the end of fifth grade.

01:07:13.000 My parents transferred me to public school for a few years.

01:07:16.000 My grades slipped a little bit.

01:07:17.000 Then, in the first few months of high school, my parents asked what was going on, and when they saw the negative impacts, they immediately pulled us out and homeschooled us again.

01:07:28.000 Because my parents genuinely, in my opinion, cared.

01:07:31.000 And they sent us to school because it's school.

01:07:34.000 I mean, it's what you do.

01:07:35.000 But they were always very active.

01:07:36.000 When we were at Catholic school, we were going to Mass.

01:07:39.000 And then when we stopped, when we switched to public school, there was a lot less family interaction with the school system.

01:07:46.000 But the reason I think I would say parents don't care about their kids is that how often have you heard of the trope where the kid says, my teacher hates me and the parent says, oh, shut up.

01:07:55.000 Jeez.

01:07:56.000 You've heard that trope before, right?

01:07:58.000 You know, it's like, no, it's not fair, my teacher hates me.

01:08:00.000 Oh, come on, you're just not doing your work.

01:08:03.000 The point where parents don't trust their own children when they say I'm having problems in school.

01:08:07.000 Not every parent does this.

01:08:08.000 I'm not saying every single parent.

01:08:09.000 I'm saying there are many parents who are like, go to school.

01:08:13.000 I have no idea what they're telling you.

01:08:15.000 I have no idea what you're learning.

01:08:16.000 I have no idea if you're going to be a good person or you're going to hold my values or have a good life.

01:08:21.000 I have no idea what goes on in that building for those eight hours or whatever you're there.

01:08:26.000 I bet it has to do with stress.

01:08:27.000 You know how they say if someone goes out and works 12 hour days and they're exhausted when they get home, they have no time to talk about politics.

01:08:33.000 They only care about where the food is and that's it. 0.84

01:08:35.000 The basic life.

01:08:35.000 So if the parent is stressed about money and they're working a job, two jobs that can't really even pay the bills, they're going to be too stressed or have this layer of stress that's interfering with their communication with their kids.

01:08:46.000 They are using school as daycare.

01:08:48.000 Yes.

01:08:49.000 That is not a good thing.

01:08:52.000 This is a problem.

01:08:52.000 I mean, but you know, don't you think that our like the public school system wasn't exactly like rosy before this?

01:08:58.000 It's like based around a factory.

01:08:58.000 Yeah.

01:09:00.000 There's literally like a bell that's like, Oh, go to the next class.

01:09:03.000 Like, so like what kind of, you know, is that the kind of environment that's going to create a critical thinking individual?

01:09:10.000 No, but.

01:09:11.000 I encourage the employees of Timcast to bring their kids to work.

01:09:14.000 As often as they can.

01:09:16.000 And they can hang out and, you know, just... You gotta have some parenting.

01:09:21.000 Don't let them spill milk on the carpet or something like that.

01:09:23.000 But I... Not only was I homeschooled, but when my mom opened a coffee shop on the north side of Chicago, which, look, you know, we were like a lower-middle-class family, and this was, like, very devastating for my family in terms of loans.

01:09:37.000 It didn't work, and then we went, you know, my family got bankrupt and stuff like that.

01:09:40.000 And they're treating you like an adult.

01:09:41.000 house I was nine years old and I had to go work there so I was sitting around

01:09:45.000 next to a bunch of adults talking politics I was getting exposed to the

01:09:49.000 real world so it's treating you like an adult they're not treating you like oh

01:09:54.000 right they were treating me like an adult and to an extent they're treating

01:09:59.000 You know, it's like when you're working, they wouldn't be like, oh, it's so cute that you're trying to wash the dishes.

01:10:04.000 They'd be like, can you finish the dishes?

01:10:05.000 Because we've got a bunch of orders coming and we need these mugs. 0.97

01:10:08.000 That can go overboard, because I'm just laughing as you're saying this, because you want to know why I always superglue myself instead of getting stitches and going to the hospital?

01:10:08.000 You know what, though?

01:10:15.000 It's because when I was like six years old, my dad was like, all right, let's go do my week-end rounds at the hospital.

01:10:20.000 He's like, let's go meet with this guy.

01:10:21.000 I'll never forget, I walk into this room and the guy's like in a full cast, like his whole body, it was like almost like out of a cartoon, like his arms are in a full cast.

01:10:29.000 He's like all the way up to his neck.

01:10:31.000 And he's like, hey Doc, how you doing?

01:10:33.000 And I was like, hold on one sec.

01:10:34.000 Rich, I got this guy, an industrial air conditioner fell on him two days ago.

01:10:39.000 He's like, I feel great, Doc.

01:10:41.000 And I was like, I never want to go to the hospital ever again.

01:10:44.000 That was it for me.

01:10:47.000 The socialization that I got growing up was very much from a lot of adults in the workplace.

01:10:52.000 Like, real-world interactions.

01:10:54.000 And so I look at what's happening to previous generations' kids, the current generations' kids.

01:10:59.000 I mean, think about this.

01:11:01.000 What do kids need to be exposed to, to live good, healthy, fulfilling lives?

01:11:05.000 They need to understand how to lead good, healthy, fulfilling lives.

01:11:09.000 But we have kids raise each other.

01:11:11.000 The parents take the kid and they put him in the school.

01:11:13.000 The teacher mindlessly drones along with like, you know, half glazed over eyes going, turn to page seven.

01:11:19.000 And the kids are sharing notes with each other.

01:11:21.000 The kids are all raising each other, man.

01:11:23.000 It's no surprise to me that we're seeing cultural decay when millennials, in many ways, grew up going to schools where the teachers mostly don't care about them.

01:11:32.000 Their parents mostly don't know what's going on in these schools.

01:11:34.000 The kids are going out to parties and teaching each other things.

01:11:38.000 So yeah, you get like a Lord of the Flies type scenario.

01:11:40.000 These kids grow up, they get power, and then it's just like, who's got the conch bashing people over the head?

01:11:45.000 I grew up surrounded by people working jobs and working in businesses, and here I am running a business, you know?

01:11:53.000 It's funny you say that, because I got major Lord of the Flies vibes when I was in the Chaz.

01:11:58.000 It was like the kids leading the kids.

01:11:59.000 Exactly!

01:12:00.000 And that's why they don't understand what work is, where money comes from.

01:12:04.000 They're just like... I swear, I was arguing with people who are pro-UBI. 0.74

01:12:09.000 And I gave the simple argument of, if you don't make stuff, there is no stuff.

01:12:13.000 And they're like, what are you talking about?

01:12:15.000 Like, there's stuff in stores.

01:12:17.000 And then I was like, yeah, but somebody had to make that stuff.

01:12:20.000 And they're like, what do you mean?

01:12:21.000 It's just there.

01:12:22.000 And I was like, no way, dude.

01:12:23.000 What?

01:12:24.000 Are you legit telling me you don't know what supply chain is?

01:12:27.000 I actually had an argument with someone who told me the electricity was just there in the walls.

01:12:31.000 That's actually Mark Levin.

01:12:33.000 He has a great I forget which book it is.

01:12:36.000 He's written so many, so many books.

01:12:39.000 But he he basically he tracks the supply chain of a pencil.

01:12:42.000 That's cool.

01:12:43.000 It's a graphite pencil.

01:12:44.000 And how complex, how many different sources of manufacturers, et cetera, and how hard it is to collectivize that and centrally plan it rather than just allow basically the marketplace to figure out how to make that supply chain work.

01:12:57.000 You can't centralize it.

01:12:59.000 That's why communism doesn't work.

01:13:01.000 But you look at these young people, what happens?

01:13:03.000 They're placed in institutionalized learning facilities by their parents without a thought.

01:13:07.000 They then have a teacher who tells them what to do and when to do it, and they say, okay, it's food time!

01:13:12.000 They walk in the room and there's food!

01:13:14.000 And then they go home.

01:13:15.000 Their whole lives.

01:13:16.000 And you've got people who go to school until, what, 22 or 24.

01:13:19.000 Their entire lives.

01:13:20.000 Some of these kids never had a job in their life.

01:13:23.000 They have no idea what production is.

01:13:25.000 So when they get out of school, they're simply like, where is the authority figure telling me what to do and giving me food?

01:13:31.000 So they demand the government do it!

01:13:32.000 And that's what they're voting for right now.

01:13:34.000 And if parents wanted their kids to be successful, to be able to survive, to have their values, they would be communicating with them every day, they'd be working with them, and very much, to a great degree, taking them out of these schools.

01:13:45.000 When you get these four-year-olds who are being given these cult surveys about creepy stuff, you shouldn't be asking kids.

01:13:51.000 Or there was that one teacher who was playing the video for kids about how to, you know, take care of business on your own.

01:13:56.000 Keep it family-friendly, I guess.

01:13:58.000 How to yerk it?

01:14:00.000 Yes.

01:14:01.000 Huh.

01:14:01.000 It wasn't a how-to.

01:14:02.000 It was just a, this happens to occur.

01:14:04.000 Oh, you're talking about that cartoon?

01:14:06.000 That was creepy, right?

01:14:06.000 Yeah.

01:14:08.000 But think about the parents.

01:14:08.000 It was really weird.

01:14:10.000 Think about the parents who are like, I had no idea they were doing it to my kids.

01:14:13.000 Now when parents found out about it, they freaked out.

01:14:15.000 Well, plus, don't you think it's also, I don't know, there's a certain corruptive factor of having the internet, like literally here that, you know, if we're talking about Lord of the Flies, the loss of innocence that happens to a 10 year old kid, the moment that they go to the website that their buddy told them, like I had to download it off Napster.

01:14:32.000 I was like, all right, four days later, I got this like 30 second, you know, video or whatever.

01:14:37.000 I stole this song that has swears in it.

01:14:40.000 Early 90s comp you serve and it's like, this song will download in 14 hours.

01:14:44.000 Yes, two kilobits per second.

01:14:47.000 Or you find the box of magazines or whatever, you know, in your uncle's closet.

01:14:52.000 And that's your moment of loss of innocence.

01:14:55.000 In South America, it's still two kilobits a second in the jungle.

01:14:57.000 Not with Starlink, when that comes global.

01:15:01.000 Have you ever seen The Time Machine?

01:15:03.000 The movie?

01:15:04.000 Or read the book.

01:15:05.000 I read the book.

01:15:05.000 Yeah, you know how like he goes to the far future and there's like the one super intelligent guy and then a bunch of the

01:15:10.000 like cavemen?

01:15:11.000 And they're two distinct species now?

01:15:13.000 That's basically what's happening.

01:15:13.000 Yeah.

01:15:15.000 You look at these tech elites, the foods they eat, the way they live their lives, the things they have access to, and

01:15:21.000 the things regular people do, the way they live their lives and what they have access to.

01:15:25.000 It really just feels like, take a look at their kids.

01:15:29.000 The children of the tech elites do not have phones or internet.

01:15:32.000 Tablets.

01:15:33.000 They don't give it to them.

01:15:34.000 I wonder why.

01:15:35.000 Mark Zuckerberg tapes the camera and microphone on his computer up.

01:15:38.000 He knows what's in the sausage.

01:15:40.000 That's right.

01:15:41.000 It's like they know Soylent Green is people.

01:15:44.000 Everybody else is eating it with a smile on their face.

01:15:45.000 They're like, don't look at me.

01:15:46.000 I don't want encephalopathy or whatever.

01:15:46.000 I'm not eating that stuff.

01:15:48.000 Encephalitis, whatever it's called.

01:15:49.000 I mean, I think that's what can be taken.

01:15:50.000 I mean, that's what I take from the last year, which is like, you see that everything that we're talking about right now, it manifests itself on the streets with these sad, desperate people who are out there because they're desperate.

01:16:03.000 And whatever side of the political spectrum they're on, they're desperate because they feel like the system has failed them and probably because it has.

01:16:09.000 And nobody's addressing that.

01:16:11.000 Nobody's addressing the actual.

01:16:12.000 Everybody says it's either systemic racism or it's cancel culture.

01:16:16.000 But nobody's like, whoa, hold on.

01:16:18.000 This is just two different hands of the same issue here.

01:16:20.000 You think maybe the the government's failures will result in more people becoming libertarian?

01:16:26.000 It's like, like I was saying, these kids go to school, right?

01:16:28.000 The system provides.

01:16:30.000 Now they're out of school and they're like, where's the system to tell me what to do and give me food?

01:16:33.000 And then when they realize it failed, maybe they'll be like, I better find food on my own.

01:16:37.000 Well, I think back to what we basically started with, which is, what did you say?

01:16:42.000 You said, uh, technology.

01:16:45.000 Culture is downstream from technology.

01:16:46.000 Culture is downstream from.

01:16:47.000 So now what's happening is like Trump definitely usurped the whole culture is politics is downstream from culture.

01:16:53.000 Cause I think he kind of just like.

01:16:56.000 You know, maybe there would have been a Trumpian figure elected in a couple of years if he had to just like literally hijack that election.

01:17:02.000 So I think, you know, that kind of came to the forefront earlier than it would have otherwise.

01:17:07.000 But no matter what, we're still it's still culture and politics are both catching up with technology.

01:17:13.000 We're just playing catch up.

01:17:14.000 And the tech tech monopolies are the ones who are capitalizing on that.

01:17:17.000 Ian makes a really good point that that culture is downstream from technology.

01:17:21.000 Look at what happens with the radio.

01:17:22.000 You have mass communications, the printing press.

01:17:25.000 The printing press allows for the mass dissemination of propaganda for an American revolution.

01:17:30.000 You eventually, you know, you get hundreds of years of that, basically, but more knowledge is being spread, people's attitudes and their understandings change.

01:17:37.000 The radio creates a new culture of radio, the style of speaking.

01:17:42.000 You get silent films, then films.

01:17:45.000 It's communication technology, really, that I think is driving culture in a lot of ways.

01:17:49.000 The rapid spread of behaviors and information.

01:17:51.000 Now we get the internet, which has dramatically altered our culture in a lot of crazy ways.

01:17:56.000 I think a lot of really bad ways, and I think a lot of really good ways.

01:17:58.000 It's not simple to say one or the other.

01:18:00.000 How do we deal with the bad element, the slamming, beating kids over the face with, you know, critical race-applied principles?

01:18:07.000 How do we get rid of that bad stuff and keep the good stuff of, kid, you can Google it to figure it out for yourself.

01:18:12.000 But you can't really now, because Google kind of controls exactly what you do.

01:18:16.000 You can duck, duck, go.

01:18:17.000 You can go to the library.

01:18:18.000 I think you're better off just going to the library.

01:18:20.000 Nah, they're banning books, dude.

01:18:22.000 You can look at how corporations control the narrative with their censorship.

01:18:27.000 So that's a problem that needs to be looked at.

01:18:29.000 You look at other technologies like fiat currency.

01:18:31.000 Currency in general is a technology.

01:18:34.000 The way the currency is utilized is a problem.

01:18:36.000 That's altering culture in a massive way.

01:18:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:39.000 Like with the Federal Reserve, it changed the way people could buy houses, what they could own, what they could trade.

01:18:43.000 And it gave centralized authority to a small group.

01:18:46.000 We have centralized electric grids, so we're at the whim of the government, because if they want to turn the power off, we're screwed. 0.97

01:18:52.000 That we have centralized water systems, they want to shut the water off, we're screwed.

01:18:57.000 So these technologies are big problems.

01:18:59.000 And I think if we holistically focus on all of them, we might be able to seize the culture.

01:19:04.000 But focusing on one of them is just going to be ramming a head into a wall.

01:19:07.000 No, but you've got to go for the grassroots.

01:19:11.000 You're not going to be able to come out and be like, hey everybody, let's totally decentralize all infrastructure.

01:19:15.000 It's going to be like, who's working on what?

01:19:18.000 But if we were like, let's figure out a way to get everybody energy independent.

01:19:22.000 Let's figure out a way to give everybody independent communications.

01:19:25.000 No one can shut your phone off.

01:19:26.000 No one can ban you.

01:19:27.000 How do we do that?

01:19:27.000 No one can silence you.

01:19:29.000 Communications is easy for us because we're all kind of communications people.

01:19:32.000 You know, like here we are on an internet show talking.

01:19:34.000 But what about energy?

01:19:35.000 What about fuel or food resources?

01:19:37.000 How do we get people to become decentralized?

01:19:40.000 Which means a lot of personal responsibility.

01:19:42.000 We need more polymaths among us, like Ben Franklin and, uh, Thomas Jefferson.

01:19:48.000 It's funny though, because when you were describing like what the media is doing and how they're like packaging up with these click farms and stuff like that, I was thinking to like, you know, 2008, the way that they packaged up all these subprime mortgages.

01:19:59.000 I just sold them a rod.

01:20:00.000 They're like, oh yeah, they're AAA.

01:20:02.000 And it's like, it's all good as long as, you know, you can keep selling the house for a little bit more.

01:20:07.000 It's okay until all of a sudden that bubble bursts.

01:20:09.000 You know those were insurance scams?

01:20:10.000 The subprime mortgage scandal was an insurance scandal.

01:20:12.000 They didn't want to classify it as insurance because they avoided all the litigation that would have come along with it.

01:20:17.000 But they were basically, they were buying insurance.

01:20:19.000 What do you mean?

01:20:20.000 A subprime mortgage is an insurance.

01:20:23.000 The mortgage-backed securities.

01:20:24.000 Those are insurance packages.

01:20:27.000 If they can't get paid back on the mortgage, that's the insurance.

01:20:31.000 The AAA rating is the likelihood of it to default.

01:20:34.000 Talking about media, you're exactly right, Richie, because I was actually working on a preliminary documentary about this.

01:20:44.000 The ad rights assignment stuff isn't as prominent as it is today, so it's not as relevant, but we could maybe do a look back.

01:20:49.000 What they were doing was they were taking bunk views that were worthless and then packaging them behind AAA-rated news websites.

01:20:57.000 So everybody knows that, you know, this website is the gold standard of youth news.

01:21:02.000 Wow, 100 million views when it was really getting 30 million and 70 million was garbage views from trash clickbait websites where you'd click in and you'd bounce out in five seconds.

01:21:12.000 But that was a click.

01:21:14.000 And then you, by contract, assign the traffic rights to the AAA rated company who then goes to advertisers and says, we get a hundred million views per month.

01:21:24.000 If you want some of this, it's going to cost you 50 grand for an ad.

01:21:27.000 And then the companies are like, wow, a hundred million views.

01:21:29.000 We'll buy it.

01:21:31.000 But then the campaigns didn't work.

01:21:33.000 You can't sell ads to nobody.

01:21:35.000 So eventually the bubble burst.

01:21:37.000 I mean, that's, that's fraud.

01:21:39.000 I mean, Facebook, uh, as if you compare it as a social media ecosystem compared to like YouTube or even Instagram people, like an average view time on Facebook is like, you know, a good one is like 20 something seconds.

01:21:55.000 It's like, wow, wow.

01:21:56.000 That's so good.

01:21:56.000 It was over 20 seconds.

01:21:58.000 Like YouTube, what's your average view time on your show?

01:22:01.000 Uh, I think it's on this channel, like 28 to 30 minutes.

01:22:05.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:06.000 And then on my other channels, it's like 14, between 10 and 14, depending on, you know.

01:22:10.000 So there are still places where people can go to like get qualitative content that they're actually paying attention to where there actually is value.

01:22:18.000 And that's, you know, there are people are learning that there are ways of measuring that.

01:22:21.000 So I don't think like it's, you know, you know, it's a bubble that's going to burst necessarily in the same way.

01:22:27.000 I think we've got a our culture is no longer focused.

01:22:33.000 You know, it's it's it's what is it doing?

01:22:35.000 It's like a Frankenstein culture.

01:22:38.000 It's got one squid arm and like a peg leg.

01:22:40.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 It's a half pirate monster.

01:22:43.000 Just ninja squid.

01:22:45.000 Frankenstein.

01:22:46.000 Three werewolf.

01:22:47.000 Three classes in the culture.

01:22:48.000 You got the banking class, the merchant class, and then I guess you call it the lower class.

01:22:53.000 Oh, no, no.

01:22:54.000 Just like the farmers and the workers.

01:22:55.000 Then you've got the communications class.

01:22:56.000 You've got the political class.

01:22:57.000 They're all merchants.

01:22:58.000 There's the bankers, which are running everything.

01:23:01.000 Then there's the merchants, which are sucking off and basically funding and capitalizing.

01:23:06.000 They're like business owners and things like that.

01:23:08.000 And then there's all the workers.

01:23:10.000 I completely disagree.

01:23:11.000 One of the most annoying things about Occupy Wall Street was when this guy stood up and screamed during a General Assembly.

01:23:17.000 Fracking is the problem!

01:23:19.000 It's the center of everything!

01:23:21.000 And then I busted out laughing.

01:23:23.000 Like, this guy is so myopic in his view that he thinks fracking is the problem.

01:23:28.000 I mean, we can start with the Federal Reserve.

01:23:30.000 That I can give you.

01:23:31.000 But to claim that small business owners and Amazon are in the same merchant class is just completely incorrect.

01:23:37.000 They're both merchants.

01:23:38.000 To claim that Mark Zuckerberg, who is in the same class as a mom-and-pop candy shop, is not correct.

01:23:45.000 It is not sound.

01:23:46.000 You've got tech elites who manipulate what people can and can't do, the communications companies who can shut off your cell phone, who can track your cell phone, who can give your information to the government.

01:23:46.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:23:56.000 You've got the intelligence agencies, the permanent government.

01:23:59.000 Then you've got the political class, the liars who get voted.

01:24:02.000 There are so many different groups of people all colluding to extract value from the system.

01:24:06.000 That's why I called it a mass Frankenstein monster of various cultures all just shambling around falling 1.00

01:24:12.000 It's gonna fall over what was once you know, it's this it's the ship of Theseus

01:24:16.000 That's the probably the way best way to describe it Yes, so so the

01:24:21.000 Right ship of Theseus I'm talking about right that I'm thinking of these. He just was the guy with the golden the

01:24:25.000 golden fleece, you know The ship is that you know, how many if you take take one

01:24:30.000 piece off and replace it how long until?

01:24:33.000 The thoughts he slayed the minotaur, right?

01:24:35.000 I don't know anything about his boat.

01:24:37.000 Is it Theseus?

01:24:37.000 I don't know.

01:24:38.000 I don't remember.

01:24:39.000 I'm sorry you lost me.

01:24:40.000 I think it is.

01:24:41.000 Let's see what the commenters are saying.

01:24:43.000 Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm right.

01:24:46.000 So the ship of Theseus is that, let's say you have a boat, and then you remove one piece of wood and then and replace it with a brand new piece of wood.

01:24:54.000 Is it still the Ship of Theseus?

01:24:55.000 That's how he got home.

01:24:56.000 Okay.

01:24:57.000 Now you replace it with another piece of wood.

01:24:59.000 Do that until all of the original pieces have been removed and replaced.

01:25:02.000 Is it still the original Ship of Theseus?

01:25:05.000 Then, take the remaining pieces and rebuild the Ship of Theseus.

01:25:08.000 Which one's the real one?

01:25:08.000 Now you have two.

01:25:10.000 It's an interesting thought experiment.

01:25:11.000 Well, boats don't have souls.

01:25:13.000 Well, so here's the issue.

01:25:14.000 Countries do.

01:25:16.000 And so if from the start of the American country experiment, whatever they want to call it, we had the ship of America.

01:25:16.000 Yeah.

01:25:23.000 And one by one, we've replaced parts and put in different parts.

01:25:27.000 The problem is they're not the same piece.

01:25:29.000 If you had like a 12 by 4 piece of wood plank and removed it with like a 3 by 9, it's not gonna work properly.

01:25:37.000 And now we're at the point where we have not rebuilt the ship of Theseus.

01:25:41.000 We've created this weird amalgam of competing interests that's shambling along and starting to sink.

01:25:46.000 I don't know.

01:25:46.000 I'm maybe more optimistic because I think back Like, just a generation or two ago, I mean, we literally had a global war.

01:25:53.000 We had a Cold War where everybody thought they were going to get nuked.

01:25:56.000 And talk about the Red Scare.

01:25:57.000 Talk about being scared about communism taking over America.

01:26:00.000 I mean, that was literally, like, the threat of annihilation.

01:26:04.000 It's like, you had to get on your desk and just prepare to get vaporized.

01:26:08.000 You're right.

01:26:08.000 At every turn.

01:26:09.000 And one of those superpowers collapsed.

01:26:12.000 And does that mean the United States could not be facing the same thing?

01:26:16.000 We're facing collapse and then China wins is what you're saying? 1.00

01:26:19.000 Maybe it's a new cold war and who says we're gonna win it.

01:26:21.000 But I think, you know, I like to think that America's and the Constitution is more resilient.

01:26:26.000 It's like the ship that you're talking about.

01:26:28.000 The Constitution ensures that we can, you know, revise and an open, free and open society ensures that we can correct ourselves and the tide can ebb and flow between, you know, whatever you want to call it, left and right, libertarian and authoritarian.

01:26:40.000 I love the Constitution, but where was the Constitution when Jake Gardner was being threatened and his family was being attacked and then he got choked out?

01:26:46.000 I never said it was perfect.

01:26:48.000 That situation is so devastating.

01:26:50.000 That's not the fault of the Constitution.

01:26:52.000 That's why I said earlier, you can have the law and then you have the culture.

01:26:55.000 And if the culture doesn't support the law, the law doesn't make any sense or doesn't matter.

01:26:59.000 So when Black Lives Matter can literally go around destroying buildings causing two billion thousand damage and face no repercussions and gain support from all the major massive multinational corporations, the law doesn't matter, does it? 0.95

01:27:11.000 But dude, we had the Bill of Rights when there were still slaves.

01:27:14.000 Right.

01:27:15.000 Like the law didn't matter, but it was the culture.

01:27:17.000 It changed and the culture changed.

01:27:20.000 And generally the culture bent in the direction of actual genuine progress.

01:27:26.000 And in the in the in the moment where you're in between the waves, you know, it's really hard to see over the next one.

01:27:31.000 But, you know, if you take a much broader view of American history, you realize, like, Wow.

01:27:35.000 Like every generation thought that they were in this dire crisis and they thought that America was doomed.

01:27:39.000 And yet it's so resilient.

01:27:42.000 And it's like, I think it's partially a byproduct of like, you know, like you said, the soul, the country does have a soul and it is this, I don't, I think the American dream is still alive insofar as people still come here because for a reason, and people aren't flooding into China. 0.64

01:27:55.000 Our understanding of free speech is new, right?

01:27:58.000 A hundred years ago, free speech didn't exist the way we think it does.

01:28:02.000 So the Bill of Rights almost didn't matter.

01:28:04.000 You had a very moralistic, authoritarian style of culture.

01:28:08.000 You can't say these things, you can't dress this way.

01:28:10.000 Now we have a very, very libertarian, but the problem is, a new moral authoritarianism is on the rise.

01:28:16.000 Of course the United States will exist, probably in name, but who knows what it'll actually be, right?

01:28:21.000 Like you mentioned, when the Bill of Rights was created, there were slaves, right?

01:28:24.000 Because the Bill of Rights didn't matter so much as the culture mattered.

01:28:27.000 What the people were willing to tolerate and willing to do.

01:28:30.000 So we can talk about making the country better and moving towards freedom, which is what I think we've typically done.

01:28:35.000 The problem is now the dominating faction is anti-freedom and pro-collectivist, which means we're going backwards.

01:28:42.000 In fact, these people outright want to rewind the clock on civil rights.

01:28:47.000 I'll give you the easiest example to understand so people can truly understand what's happening.

01:28:51.000 Okay.

01:28:52.000 Ibram X. Kendi, the anti-racism guy.

01:28:56.000 What's his real name, though?

01:28:58.000 I thought it was even Henry.

01:28:59.000 It's Henry Rogers, isn't it?

01:29:00.000 Oh, it is?

01:29:01.000 Shout out to Henry Rogers.

01:29:02.000 Is it Henry Rogers?

01:29:03.000 It's true, yeah, look it up.

01:29:05.000 I only know that because the guy at the Daily Caller.

01:29:06.000 So, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

01:29:08.000 He's like the whitest guy ever, so it's funny. 0.95

01:29:11.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says, Why don't these Republicans, you know, want schools to teach the kids to be anti-racist?

01:29:18.000 Anti-racist.

01:29:19.000 I love that word.

01:29:20.000 So smart.

01:29:20.000 Anti-racist.

01:29:22.000 Because people who have no idea what's going on say, oh, I hate racism.

01:29:25.000 I want to be anti-racist.

01:29:27.000 But what does Kennedy say?

01:29:28.000 He says anti-racism, the only solution for past discrimination is present discrimination.

01:29:34.000 And the only solution for present discrimination is future discrimination.

01:29:38.000 Right?

01:29:39.000 That's a quote from Kendi.

01:29:41.000 He genuinely believes we should have racial discrimination.

01:29:45.000 Now, I think discriminating on the basis of race is evil, don't you?

01:29:49.000 I think most people agree with that in America.

01:29:52.000 Okay, so let's replace discrimination with evil.

01:29:55.000 So Kendi's statement is, the only solution to past evil is present evil, and the only solution to present evil is future evil.

01:30:03.000 Why would I want someone who is evil to have any power at all?

01:30:06.000 Well, discrimination is not evil.

01:30:08.000 It can be used in an evil way, but you have to discriminate.

01:30:11.000 If you have a hot rock and a cold rock, you know that you don't want to pick up the hot rock.

01:30:15.000 You have to discriminate between the rocks as to which one is safe to touch.

01:30:19.000 So I'm obviously not being 100% absolute.

01:30:23.000 I am making my point using hyperbole and exaggerating.

01:30:27.000 Clearly there are instances where general discrimination doesn't mean discriminate against human beings.

01:30:32.000 But even then, if one guy's super tall and one guy's super short and you need someone to pick the apples up there, you gotta hire the tall guy.

01:30:40.000 I think the issue with that frame of thinking is most people probably understand my point, but arguing the semantics of it doesn't actually add anything to it.

01:30:50.000 I don't think there's a lot of situations where discriminating on race has any value.

01:30:54.000 Can you think of one?

01:30:55.000 Medical?

01:30:56.000 Sickle cell anemia.

01:30:57.000 So there are times when you need to discriminate based on race for people's safety.

01:31:01.000 What I'm saying is that Ibram Kendi's view is that we should form policies that affect people's lives and access to civil rights based on their race when my view is mostly a negative rights aspect of we should not impose restrictions based on their race so they can always enjoy full civil rights.

01:31:17.000 Now of course the left argues but they're not being allowed full civil rights because of racism and I'm like private actors do private things and they're bad people.

01:31:25.000 The system has already been healing from this for 56, 57 years.

01:31:30.000 They complain about these redlining and blockbusting, and I'm like, yes, we have been solving for that. 0.89

01:31:38.000 It's not perfect.

01:31:39.000 We've passed the laws.

01:31:40.000 Now we're trying to solve that problem.

01:31:42.000 But you are now bringing us back.

01:31:45.000 You're saying you are going to bring back racial discrimination.

01:31:48.000 I'm like, you're making things worse.

01:31:50.000 But don't you think, OK, but, you know, don't you think that the same tide that ebbed and flowed in order to allow for the civil rights movement?

01:31:58.000 And I'm not drawing the same parallel.

01:31:59.000 I'm just speaking in terms of cultural shifts.

01:32:02.000 You know, the mainstream, the people who are, quote unquote, revolutionaries trying to change the system, actually able to create, you know, progress, quote unquote.

01:32:12.000 And obviously that's a charged term.

01:32:13.000 But don't you think that most people don't think, in America, don't think like Ibram X. Kendi?

01:32:19.000 And it's just that everybody's scared to speak up right now?

01:32:22.000 Because they have a fear of, you know, that their digital self being maligned to the point where their real self is, you know, excommunicated from society.

01:32:22.000 Right.

01:32:31.000 They are more scared of being called a racist than of their children being indoctrinated into a moralistic, authoritarian culture.

01:32:39.000 I think that's generally... Right.

01:32:42.000 It's still America, and it's not. 0.76

01:32:44.000 Did the people in the Soviet Union? 0.99

01:32:46.000 No, but the Soviet Union sucked. 1.00

01:32:47.000 It was a shit system, and America's the best system that's ever made, flawed as it may be. 1.00

01:32:52.000 And sorry that I just swore. 1.00

01:32:54.000 No, no, no, hold on.

01:32:56.000 That point's completely irrelevant. 1.00

01:32:58.000 The Soviet Union was garbage, and the people hated it. 0.99

01:33:01.000 And it stood for a hundred years. 0.98

01:33:04.000 The United States system is an amazing system, but people still are doing nothing to stop the central planners and the communists from seizing power.

01:33:11.000 So, hey, American Marxism, Mark Levin's book sold 500,000 copies in like a week.

01:33:16.000 And we see a lot of Amazon number ones.

01:33:18.000 800 school boards are up in arms about it.

01:33:20.000 This show focuses on it nightly.

01:33:22.000 There's 98,000 schools, bro.

01:33:23.000 Yeah, but you only need 5,000 of them then.

01:33:25.000 You only need 5% of them to step up.

01:33:26.000 Yes, I think I kind of agree in that insofar as like, It only takes a few people to stand up to a corrupt system like Solzhenitsyn, who wrote the Gulag Archipelago and was able to bring the whole system down based upon one man who stood up and literally, how the hell?

01:33:43.000 He memorized the whole thing.

01:33:45.000 It only takes one of those incredible people.

01:33:48.000 Now I'm going to imagine your Antifa saying the exact same verbatim quote right now And that means it's a coin toss.

01:33:57.000 I don't think it's a coin toss because I don't think, ultimately, it doesn't matter what the ideology is behind it.

01:34:02.000 It's like common sense is common sense.

01:34:05.000 They're saying the same thing.

01:34:07.000 And if people are scared to speak up and talk about what they believe and they're willing to cower, then you've got one violent faction who has been given carte blanche because the establishment rarely, if ever, says anything bad about them, and another faction that is being persecuted and prosecuted to a growing and more extreme degree.

01:34:22.000 So, you're right.

01:34:24.000 You know, what's the saying from that woman? 0.99

01:34:27.000 Never be sad that a small group of determined people couldn't change history.

01:34:30.000 Indeed, it's the only thing they ever have.

01:34:32.000 Sure.

01:34:33.000 But that's also true of your political opponents.

01:34:36.000 You know, history is written by the victors.

01:34:38.000 And you look at what happens throughout history with civil wars and conquest, and the people who are able to win and write the books down and spread those ideas are the ones who win.

01:34:47.000 Right now you have a growing faction of extremists, critical race theorists, and their critical race applied principles.

01:34:55.000 And you have a much smaller group of people who are willing to actually stand up and challenge it.

01:35:00.000 There are a lot of people willing to challenge it, there are more people by the day, but there's also more Antifa people.

01:35:06.000 It was 8% progressive according to the Hidden Tribes report three years ago.

01:35:12.000 The last poll I checked, it was like 10 or 11 percent.

01:35:16.000 They've grown in power for a few reasons.

01:35:16.000 They've grown.

01:35:18.000 They're getting more young people.

01:35:20.000 Like I mentioned, those fourth graders, nine more years, and you will have fully-fledged adult Marxists who believe all that stuff.

01:35:27.000 And it's their whole whole life.

01:35:29.000 That's if we don't do anything about it.

01:35:30.000 Yeah.

01:35:31.000 I mean, I would look to like Europe or Canada and like, you know, Jordan Peterson being a good example of like we were talking about one person standing up.

01:35:39.000 I mean, he was the only guy in the entire education system in Canada who was like, whoa, you're compelling our speech and you want to like make it criminal for me not to.

01:35:48.000 You know, say if I make him, whatever, if you say the wrong pronoun, I think it was basically you could be criminal.

01:35:55.000 And if you don't pay your fine, you go to jail.

01:35:57.000 And so he stood up against it and look at what happened.

01:35:59.000 You know, there was this like global support that came behind him solely because he was that one guy willing to stand up.

01:36:06.000 And that's in like much more, you know, I think less free societies than we live in.

01:36:11.000 So I think the tide's shifting, dude.

01:36:13.000 And I feel good about this.

01:36:14.000 Sure, sure.

01:36:15.000 What I'm saying is, in nine years, we will have that fourth grader, a fully-fledged Marxist.

01:36:21.000 Obviously, it's if we do nothing.

01:36:23.000 The point is, we're here trying to do something.

01:36:25.000 People need to pay attention.

01:36:27.000 They need to understand what it means to get involved.

01:36:29.000 They need to understand what it means to speak up at their workplace, challenge these systems, refuse to support them.

01:36:35.000 If, you know, a company wants to get woke, they can go broke.

01:36:38.000 One guy messaged me and he was like, I listen to the show every night with my two daughters.

01:36:42.000 One's 10 and one's 13.

01:36:43.000 And the 10 year old asked them something.

01:36:44.000 They were all listening to it in the car.

01:36:45.000 And the 10 year old asked something.

01:36:46.000 And the 13 year old was like, it doesn't matter.

01:36:48.000 The government's going to fall apart anyway.

01:36:51.000 We're seeding these thoughts into kids.

01:36:52.000 So we got to be careful and conscious about what we say, what we want to happen and how we frame things. 0.99

01:36:59.000 I don't think personally that there are more I don't think this stupid Antifa racist movement is growing. 0.99

01:37:06.000 I think that it showed its head. 1.00

01:37:07.000 It's obviously deranged. 0.90

01:37:09.000 Most people see that.

01:37:11.000 You're right.

01:37:11.000 You know what, Ian?

01:37:12.000 And my biggest fear is that, you know, if we don't do something, then the Libertarians are going to take over and Dave Smith will become president.

01:37:20.000 Oh, man.

01:37:21.000 Worst case scenario.

01:37:22.000 We're seeding these ideas.

01:37:23.000 Oh, no.

01:37:24.000 We don't do anything.

01:37:24.000 The Mises caucus and Libertarian Party are going to take over.

01:37:28.000 I'm kidding.

01:37:29.000 That'd be great.

01:37:30.000 You're right, the stakes are high though.

01:37:31.000 And I agree that it's not a trivial thing and it's not something that people just say, oh, you know, it's just happening in, you know, blue check Twitter zone.

01:37:41.000 Because I think, you know, all of us are kind of the byproduct of, I don't know, how old are you?

01:37:45.000 I'm like 42.

01:37:46.000 You're 42?

01:37:46.000 That's great, right?

01:37:49.000 What the?

01:37:51.000 Welcome to the 70s.

01:37:51.000 Are you kidding me?

01:37:52.000 How old do you think he was?

01:37:55.000 Definitely not.

01:37:55.000 I don't know.

01:37:55.000 36?

01:37:57.000 I don't know.

01:37:57.000 Yeah.

01:38:00.000 Well, growing up, because I think, you know, being born in 89, we're about the same age.

01:38:05.000 Like, I was definitely part of the generation of everybody gets a trophy.

01:38:09.000 That's for sure.

01:38:09.000 Yeah, me too.

01:38:10.000 And like, I don't know.

01:38:11.000 No, I wasn't.

01:38:12.000 You were like a rubber, you rub some dirt on it.

01:38:13.000 Get a job when you're 12.

01:38:14.000 Yeah.

01:38:15.000 We're not paying you allowance anymore.

01:38:17.000 Go out there, walk a dog.

01:38:19.000 One of the worst feelings I ever had, I remember I was in third grade, and they were doing this thing at my school where it was like an after school program thing, like parents were there, and they were asking trivia questions, and I was just a little smart kid, right?

01:38:31.000 So I would raise my hand, but the teacher would never call on me.

01:38:34.000 And so then I started crying, because I didn't get a chance to actually answer the question and win the prize, so I was just given one.

01:38:40.000 And I was like, that was like the most brutal thing ever.

01:38:42.000 It felt miserable.

01:38:44.000 I was like, I don't want it.

01:38:45.000 I wanted to answer the question.

01:38:47.000 I missed it by like six years or something.

01:38:50.000 I think the internet, I don't know what brought that on, that everybody gets a trophy.

01:38:54.000 Well, I think it's actually what Tim was talking about earlier, which is that the people who basically occupied the positions of, you know, being our teachers, were the children of that kind of counterculture movement of the late 60s.

01:39:06.000 You know, they're basically hippies.

01:39:07.000 They're the ones who went into humanities to teach your kids English and whatever.

01:39:11.000 Commies! 1.00

01:39:12.000 You know, teach your kids how to critically think.

01:39:15.000 But we still, you know, we still read like, uh, Tom Sawyer and stuff.

01:39:20.000 Like we still had to contend with those difficult topics.

01:39:23.000 And that's right.

01:39:25.000 And we still got to contend with these super chats.

01:39:27.000 Oh, right.

01:39:28.000 We're going to go to super chats.

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:29.000 Someone's going to call me out about saying Trump did cocaine with strippers.

01:39:32.000 I'm sorry.

01:39:33.000 I don't know that he ever did that.

01:39:34.000 I was just, I've just heard that he was a party boy. 0.96

01:39:36.000 If someone came to me and said, would you like to place a bet as to whether or not Trump did cocaine with a bunch of hookers, I'd be like, I will take that bet. 0.97

01:39:43.000 I will take that bet. 0.99

01:39:44.000 Take that bet.

01:39:44.000 Can I give you all of my money?

01:39:45.000 Yes.

01:39:45.000 10 to 1 odds.

01:39:47.000 So smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, go to TimCast.com.

01:39:50.000 I'm going to shout out the Lagima Thigayan. 1.00

01:39:55.000 Again, Jaffa Cree, Ian Cree.

01:39:57.000 Yeah, because I watched Stargate.

01:40:00.000 Someone superchatted us.

01:40:01.000 Because I was like, Star Trek's so great.

01:40:02.000 And they were like, watch Stargate.

01:40:03.000 And I was like, OK.

01:40:05.000 Now all the Star Trek references are Stargate references.

01:40:07.000 So that's how the show goes.

01:40:07.000 I'm going to start watching Stargate.

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 It's a good show.

01:40:09.000 It's good.

01:40:10.000 And then someone said to watch Farscape.

01:40:12.000 Is that what they?

01:40:13.000 I haven't seen it yet.

01:40:14.000 I don't know.

01:40:14.000 A lot of Portal sliders.

01:40:17.000 Quantum Leap.

01:40:18.000 A lot of Portal sliders, isn't it?

01:40:19.000 Quantum Leap, though.

01:40:20.000 Oh, boy.

01:40:21.000 Tripsuck says, Richie, you inspire me.

01:40:21.000 All right.

01:40:23.000 I just thought you should know how loved and valued you truly are.

01:40:27.000 Wow.

01:40:28.000 Thank you.

01:40:29.000 That makes it all worth it.

01:40:30.000 This is a really great chat right here.

01:40:32.000 Pierce Wersig says, Tim, I work in a grocery store and I've been noticing that a lot of the new products are coming in as smaller packages.

01:40:39.000 Sizes like family size or large size are an ounce or two smaller than the product already on the shelf.

01:40:44.000 I noticed that.

01:40:44.000 Interesting.

01:40:45.000 I went shopping the other day and the family size box of cereal was like a normal box of cereal.

01:40:52.000 It was the weirdest thing.

01:40:53.000 And I was like, this is not family size.

01:40:54.000 It's tiny.

01:40:55.000 Same price.

01:40:56.000 Same price.

01:40:56.000 That's inflation.

01:40:58.000 Yes.

01:40:58.000 Another kind of inflation.

01:40:59.000 Because they know people aren't gonna be able to pay more, they reduce what you get.

01:41:02.000 But the average size of the family in America has shrunk.

01:41:04.000 That's true.

01:41:05.000 And probably is a little bit bigger than it should be.

01:41:06.000 The only reason why we're keeping up our population is increasing is because of inflation.

01:41:08.000 Bottles are getting smaller.

01:41:10.000 They're like 64 ounce or now 59 ounce.

01:41:12.000 Wow.

01:41:12.000 They're shrinking everything.

01:41:14.000 Yeah.

01:41:15.000 And one of the best things, I love this, when they keep the box the exact same size, but the stuff inside is smaller.

01:41:21.000 Rude.

01:41:22.000 Chips too.

01:41:22.000 It's great.

01:41:24.000 As long as my quarter pounder remains a quarter pound.

01:41:27.000 And a double quarter pounder is a half pound, by the way.

01:41:29.000 James Spader, that was his name.

01:41:31.000 James Spader.

01:41:31.000 says the 1994 Stargate movie was better than SG-1 series changed my mind.

01:41:34.000 They're different.

01:41:35.000 They're just different.

01:41:37.000 You know?

01:41:38.000 Stargate SG-1 has a ton.

01:41:40.000 Yeah I like the movie.

01:41:41.000 James Spader.

01:41:42.000 Good job James.

01:41:46.000 Chris Blank Production says, Well, they're not all in one place.

01:41:58.000 That's the us versus them separation.

01:42:00.000 So, that's why I don't think it's right when people are like, we're so close to genocide.

01:42:04.000 I'm like, we're close to a Balkanization or a civil conflict. 0.92

01:42:08.000 But what does close even really mean?

01:42:10.000 You know, are we gonna like crop dust it and then pull out at the last minute and then everything calms down?

01:42:14.000 Maybe?

01:42:15.000 I gotta be honest, I can look at a problem and try to come up with a solution.

01:42:24.000 I can look at something and say, here are what I think are some possibilities, and I can do really well at Magic the Gathering when I'm holding the cards in my hand and I can make some predictions about what's gonna happen, what I can do.

01:42:35.000 I look at the system and the pieces we're given.

01:42:37.000 The cards were dealt in this culture war, and I'm like, you explain to me how you're going to get a MAGA hat-wearing Trump supporter who's, you know, protesting masks, vaccines, and he's protesting in defense of the January 6th riders, that person, and you're going to get the pink hat-wearing, you know, Twitterati anti-gun person to shake hands and agree to calm down.

01:43:02.000 That'd be cool.

01:43:03.000 We're getting there.

01:43:03.000 Yeah.

01:43:04.000 We're getting there.

01:43:06.000 I don't see that.

01:43:08.000 I see that getting worse.

01:43:09.000 The night is darkest before dawn.

01:43:11.000 That's true.

01:43:12.000 Which means we might crop dust it.

01:43:12.000 That's true.

01:43:13.000 We don't know where the bottom is going to be.

01:43:15.000 How about this?

01:43:16.000 I was at the Cuban protest today in front of the White House, and I didn't want to give it away when we were talking before.

01:43:20.000 But guess what happened?

01:43:22.000 Everybody was out there protesting.

01:43:25.000 Libertad, libertad, right?

01:43:27.000 The Secret Service comes in, they cleared out Lafayette Square, and there was no pepper spray whatsoever, and everybody was completely peaceful.

01:43:34.000 And I was like, waiting for it.

01:43:35.000 I was like, no, here we go again, just like the Jackson statue.

01:43:39.000 Nothing.

01:43:39.000 But these were more libertarian protesters yelling for you?

01:43:45.000 Were they leftists who supported Joe Biden?

01:43:48.000 You know, they were very angry, though.

01:43:50.000 There was a lot of passion there.

01:43:52.000 And I felt like they were out there feeling like their cousins and stuff were existentially threatened by the situation in Cuba.

01:44:00.000 So it wasn't like they didn't care, and it wasn't like they had some particular political ideology.

01:44:06.000 It was just like...

01:44:07.000 I don't know.

01:44:08.000 They were just.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, it's not against the American government in any way.

01:44:11.000 These these.

01:44:11.000 Well, they're pros.

01:44:12.000 Protests are like help Cuba help. 0.92

01:44:12.000 Yeah. 0.92

01:44:14.000 And actually, the only real like situation where things got very like, you know, almost to a boiling point was actually there were like two or three Code Pink protesters who were arguing in favor in favor of Right.

01:44:28.000 Basically breaking the blockade which is like, you know, basically giving the regime a break. Yeah, right so

01:44:33.000 The Cuban the Cuban freedom protesters were like no you guys like saying the worst things

01:44:39.000 I put it on Twitter like saying very very bad things in Spanish to these people and

01:44:42.000 It was because you know, they wanted to alleviate the to break the

01:44:48.000 It was just kind of a little bit counterintuitive.

01:44:50.000 And I was like, wait a second.

01:44:51.000 Oh, I guess that makes sense, because that's giving the regime a break and basically, you know, giving them more.

01:44:56.000 Yeah, we're a situation where you read more super jets when you when you blockade a government from getting goods, but then you end up screwing the populace or when you give the government goods and they hoard them away from the populace like it's a lose lose.

01:45:09.000 It's kind of like us hoarding away from the Super Chat right now, so Tim, take the chat money.

01:45:09.000 How do you.

01:45:13.000 Sorry, guy that was coming next.

01:45:14.000 I had to get that out.

01:45:15.000 It's kind of like we are not responsible for the well-being of another country.

01:45:18.000 Just because we say we're not going to trade with you doesn't make it our fault. 1.00

01:45:21.000 It's the stupidest communist thing I've ever heard. 1.00

01:45:23.000 But let's read some more. 1.00

01:45:24.000 Woodworking Medic says, I grew up in Omaha, and the suicide story makes me so mad.

01:45:29.000 Omaha was rated the most dangerous place to be black in the US in 2014.

01:45:33.000 That was due to black-on-black crime from gang violence.

01:45:36.000 People just don't understand how messed up the world is getting.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, man.

01:45:40.000 Dude, that story is so heartbreaking.

01:45:43.000 Martin Lamontagne says... Lamontagne?

01:45:46.000 Lamontagne.

01:45:46.000 How do you pronounce that?

01:45:47.000 The term you are looking for is Oclocracy. 1.00

01:45:51.000 Oclocracy. 0.72

01:45:51.000 What? 0.72

01:45:52.000 I gotta look that up.

01:45:53.000 What does that mean?

01:45:54.000 Rule by the mobs.

01:45:59.000 Alright, let's see.

01:46:01.000 Robert Neal says some parallels to Freedom Phone and the original Tesla Roadster.

01:46:04.000 Freedom Phone is a rebadged Chinese phone the same way the Tesla was just a Lotus Elise with electric motors.

01:46:10.000 Bright future for Freedom Phone.

01:46:12.000 Maybe.

01:46:12.000 Cool.

01:46:13.000 I mean, if you don't want to deal with learning how to hack a phone, it's not particularly difficult, honestly, to like flash a new operating system on your phone, a ROM.

01:46:21.000 And you can get graphene and stuff, but most people don't know how to do that.

01:46:23.000 Tesla's are lame.

01:46:24.000 I'm sorry, Tim.

01:46:25.000 Yeah.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, they're no fun.

01:46:26.000 Why?

01:46:27.000 Because go-karts are fun.

01:46:28.000 And like when you stomp on something it makes a loud noise and you're like we got we got these electric bikes

01:46:33.000 Everyone's like oh, they're so fast. I'm like, I don't care I want to like shift gears and like burn rubber and like ebrake

01:46:38.000 Yeah Give me go-kart or give me death

01:46:43.000 Chubby kobold gaming says Wow, the Seattle mayor was just on the news saying they need more police. Yep

01:46:51.000 Yeah, yeah Baltimore was saying that, I think, too. 0.74

01:46:55.000 Alex Thunderpaw says, you're naive.

01:46:57.000 We're at step seven, and that's why the Biden administration is going after patriots now.

01:47:02.000 Has the Biden administration forced Trump supporters to wear hats or shirts or badges or done anything like that?

01:47:09.000 No.

01:47:09.000 So that's two.

01:47:11.000 They do it on their own.

01:47:12.000 Trump supporters wear hats on their own.

01:47:13.000 Right.

01:47:14.000 What they're saying are people being forced to identify themselves.

01:47:16.000 Are they saying, like, this group of patriots must... Oh, you want to go to the movie theater?

01:47:20.000 Are you a Trump supporter?

01:47:21.000 You got to wear the badge.

01:47:22.000 And the nice thing is you have anonymity and you're voting on purpose per the U.S.

01:47:27.000 law because of that.

01:47:28.000 But you know what, though?

01:47:29.000 Again, like, just real quick.

01:47:32.000 Remember there was that whole narrative that it's like, oh, the only people who are refusing the vaccine are, like, white Trump supporters.

01:47:37.000 That died out because it wasn't true.

01:47:39.000 And because actually the vaccination rates in minority communities turned out to be lower.

01:47:48.000 Hispanics were lower than whites and blacks were lower than Hispanics. 1.00

01:47:53.000 And so then that narrative just died on the vine. 0.97

01:47:54.000 Because guess what?

01:47:55.000 A narrative can only last for so long before it becomes like, oh, no, okay, that's not the case.

01:48:03.000 Let's move on then.

01:48:04.000 Makeshift electric.

01:48:05.000 This is a really important one, guys.

01:48:07.000 Ian looks like Wayne and Garth had a baby.

01:48:09.000 That's my goal.

01:48:11.000 That's what you're going for.

01:48:12.000 He's cultivating.

01:48:13.000 Andreas, if you guys follow the vlogs, you've seen him put on a video on YouTube and there's like a guy walking up to a laundromat and I was like, oh, it's Ian.

01:48:21.000 And he's like, no, that's someone else.

01:48:23.000 And I was like, it just looks like Ian.

01:48:26.000 And then he was like, no, it's a different guy.

01:48:27.000 And I was like, so you were friends with the guy who was like this lanky glasses with long hair.

01:48:32.000 And then you like traded him in for like an E and it's like an upgrade.

01:48:35.000 That's my M.O., baby.

01:48:38.000 Poker Soldier says, Tim, please stop calling them liberals.

01:48:38.000 All right.

01:48:41.000 They're communists.

01:48:42.000 The left are communists.

01:48:43.000 The right are capitalists.

01:48:44.000 North are authoritarian.

01:48:45.000 South are libertarians.

01:48:46.000 It's time we address them as such.

01:48:48.000 Liberals typically refers to like a traditional establishment democrat type.

01:48:55.000 Leftists are socialists or communists.

01:48:57.000 But left and right, what do they mean?

01:48:59.000 Left is a reference to pro-revolution.

01:49:00.000 Right is a reference to not for the revolution.

01:49:03.000 But then right is supposed to be like economic freedom and left is economic cooperation.

01:49:09.000 And then authoritarian economic cooperation is mandated and libertarian is requested.

01:49:13.000 It's hard to maintain.

01:49:14.000 And then Free market capitalism, but what is authoritarian right?

01:49:17.000 Authoritarian free market capitalism?

01:49:19.000 It makes no sense!

01:49:20.000 None of it makes sense!

01:49:21.000 I think the Occupy Wall Street people was the revolution, and still is, and then this aberration is the betrayal of the revolution, like Castro is the betrayal of the Cuban revolution.

01:49:31.000 Yes.

01:49:32.000 Maybe so.

01:49:33.000 Dragon Lady says, The Secret Service was originally established in 1865 to fight counterfeiting.

01:49:39.000 It wasn't until the forced death of President McKinley that they took on the duty of protecting the president as well.

01:49:45.000 There you go.

01:49:46.000 Interesting.

01:49:48.000 Some people are saying that the list isn't patriots versus the left.

01:49:53.000 It's vax versus unvax, which, um, still.

01:49:57.000 Well, that was, that was my point.

01:49:59.000 Is that like, there was supposed to be a narrative that was only Trump supporters, but there is like crossover between like this far left people who are skeptical of the government, skeptical of the WHO, the CDC.

01:50:08.000 So you're right though.

01:50:11.000 It's like, where's your, where's your pass?

01:50:13.000 Where's your passport?

01:50:14.000 Do you have your passport?

01:50:15.000 You didn't bring it with you?

01:50:15.000 I don't.

01:50:16.000 No, it's downstairs.

01:50:18.000 All right, Hayden said, not to be too far out there, but there is a saying, if you're not liberal and young, you don't have a heart.

01:50:24.000 If you're not conservative as you're older, you don't have a brain.

01:50:28.000 Swap out lib and con for some more relevant terms the left doesn't think.

01:50:32.000 I've always heard it as, if you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart.

01:50:35.000 If you're not conservative when you're older, you have no head.

01:50:37.000 Yep.

01:50:39.000 Doobie McNasty says SLC Punk was one of my favorite movies in my teen years.

01:50:43.000 Devin Sawa on that acid trip was awesome.

01:50:45.000 And the culmination at the end was unreal.

01:50:48.000 Surreal.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, man.

01:50:49.000 I feel bad for Bob.

01:50:50.000 Yeah.

01:50:50.000 It was a bummer.

01:50:53.000 Blaze88 says, it's libertarian versus authoritarian.

01:50:56.000 What is the ratio of left versus right that are medicated?

01:50:59.000 It's fair to say Big Pharma has already drugged up enough people to sway the balance.

01:51:03.000 We know how that guy likes to get drugged up.

01:51:03.000 Or, uh, is it fair to say?

01:51:05.000 Have you seen the charts though?

01:51:06.000 Blaze what?

01:51:06.000 What's his name?

01:51:07.000 Blaze.

01:51:07.000 Hey, hey, if it comes out of the ground, Blaze.

01:51:09.000 Have you, uh, have you seen the chart though showing that very left tend to have very high rates of mental illness?

01:51:16.000 Any extreme, I would think, yeah.

01:51:17.000 It reminds me of the Joker, right?

01:51:20.000 In The Dark Knight?

01:51:21.000 When Harvey Dent kidnaps the guy posing as a cop?

01:51:25.000 And he's like, where is he?

01:51:26.000 Where's the Joker?

01:51:28.000 And then Batman grabs the coin and he's like, you think you're gonna get anything from him? 0.77

01:51:31.000 He's a schizophrenic from Arkham Asylum.

01:51:33.000 The Joker preys on people like that. 0.96

01:51:35.000 And I'm like, Joker a Democrat?

01:51:38.000 It's like a joke, right?

01:51:40.000 But there is data.

01:51:42.000 I think it was Zack Goldberger who posted this.

01:51:44.000 People who identify as very liberal or liberal have extremely high rates of mental illness relative to any other group.

01:51:50.000 Yeah, well, do you think that it has to do with like well, I think concern like right had the low conservative had the lowest Well, I would say like at least today, I don't know just generally speaking liberals, you know have an idea that they need to fix the world and Conservatives have more of a concern with their communities and their families, right?

01:52:06.000 Isn't that like I think that's a Fair generalization.

01:52:10.000 So I mean it that's just been exacerbated.

01:52:12.000 I think as you know things have diverged more and more which is like I We need to fix this broken system, and that's all that matters.

01:52:19.000 And meanwhile, you know, back at home, like... Conservatives are like, hey, I'm good.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 I don't know.

01:52:24.000 I take issue with that mental illness phrase, the phrase mental illness, because if you're sane in an insane society, they call you crazy.

01:52:32.000 And a lot of these people are justifiably enraged.

01:52:36.000 About what?

01:52:36.000 The system being bought out by the Federal Reserve to start.

01:52:40.000 OK, Ian, you got to stop with that, because the left has never brought up the Federal Reserve.

01:52:43.000 You think the reason they're out Out protesting is not because they're poor.

01:52:48.000 I mean, that's the reason they're out is because they don't have money.

01:52:50.000 The lockdowns destroyed people's livelihoods.

01:52:52.000 Think about Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze, you know?

01:52:52.000 They went crazy.

01:52:56.000 That was the perfect dialectic right there, which is like, they're both crazy in their own way.

01:52:59.000 You're the guy at Occupy screaming about fracking.

01:53:01.000 We know the Fed is bad.

01:53:04.000 We know there's problems, but none of these people are protesting money.

01:53:07.000 They're protesting race.

01:53:09.000 Well, they're protesting economic disparity and then race as the mask.

01:53:13.000 Well, they're protesting.

01:53:14.000 The race thing has been added on top of it.

01:53:16.000 But they're not even talking about money in many circumstances.

01:53:18.000 They're talking about privilege.

01:53:19.000 Yeah, you're getting a rage.

01:53:21.000 They're claiming that Oprah Winfrey is oppressed and the homeless white veteran is the oppressor.

01:53:25.000 That's not about money, dude.

01:53:26.000 That's a co-opt of the root.

01:53:27.000 I think the root comes from the rage of the...

01:53:30.000 The Occupy Rage, it's still there.

01:53:31.000 Well, pay attention to the race so that you don't realize that, you know, you got no money.

01:53:35.000 There are a lot of leftists who are angry with the billionaires.

01:53:37.000 You know, and that's why Bernie happened.

01:53:38.000 But now they're totally distracted.

01:53:40.000 I mean, they're supporting Big Pharma.

01:53:42.000 They're getting tattoos of, like, Pfizer on their arm.

01:53:44.000 The Fauci bobbleheads.

01:53:45.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

01:53:46.000 And the Fauci pizza.

01:53:47.000 It's like, they don't care about the Fed.

01:53:49.000 Do you use Fauci's name in vain?

01:53:50.000 YouTube's gonna cut this feed, man.

01:53:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:53.000 Yeah, we should go easy on Anthony.

01:53:55.000 Just don't use the F word like that.

01:53:58.000 Turk Longwell says, look at Tim.

01:53:58.000 All right, all right.

01:54:00.000 With the good movie references tonight, Southland Tales, SLC Punk, and Donnie Darko.

01:54:05.000 Have you seen Dark City or Edge of Tomorrow?

01:54:07.000 Edge of Tomorrow is awesome.

01:54:07.000 F. Biden.

01:54:08.000 I need to see Dark City.

01:54:09.000 I liked F. Biden there at the end.

01:54:12.000 We need to make that movie.

01:54:12.000 I haven't seen any of those.

01:54:13.000 I got to see Dark City.

01:54:15.000 I haven't seen it, but I was looking at it.

01:54:16.000 I'll watch it.

01:54:17.000 I'll watch it.

01:54:18.000 Watch it tonight.

01:54:20.000 FOMO says, please don't misstate the pro-life stance.

01:54:22.000 The whole point is that we believe it's a separate life.

01:54:25.000 It's not the mother's body, but a baby that dies.

01:54:27.000 Right, that's the point.

01:54:29.000 So when the conservatives are like, my body, my choice, and the liberals laugh and say, now do abortion, I'm like, what's the difference?

01:54:36.000 Like, there's no contradiction there.

01:54:38.000 The conservatives think the baby's body isn't from the mother, so the mother can't make the choice for the baby.

01:54:43.000 Like, what are you saying?

01:54:45.000 The left doesn't understand any of these concepts.

01:54:47.000 They don't actually engage in these debates, they don't understand these high-level ideas, they don't talk to conservatives, and they don't understand them.

01:54:53.000 What are you saying exactly?

01:54:54.000 What's the argument you're saying just there?

01:54:55.000 Pro-life people believe the baby is alive, and the mother is alive, and the mother doesn't have a right to choose for the baby to die.

01:55:03.000 When it comes to vaccines, the conservatives are saying, my body, my choice, which is a slogan of the pro-choice movement, saying, you can't tell me what to do with my body.

01:55:11.000 The left then tells conservatives, you're contradicting yourself because you're pro-life.

01:55:15.000 Because the left doesn't understand that babies are their own bodies.

01:55:20.000 It's, yeah, it's at conception.

01:55:22.000 It's a life at conception. 1.00

01:55:24.000 I saw the stupidest thing ever. 1.00

01:55:26.000 And it was viral on Reddit and Reddit is just bloated with really dumb young people who never thought about this stuff. 1.00

01:55:31.000 And it was like a guy saying, I can debunk pro-life in two seconds. 0.98

01:55:35.000 Let's say you're at a fertility clinic.

01:55:37.000 Forget why you're in the fertility clinic, but just for the sake of argument.

01:55:40.000 And there's a vial with a thousand viable embryos.

01:55:44.000 Is it on fire?

01:55:45.000 And a fire breaks out.

01:55:47.000 And there is a child.

01:55:48.000 And you can only choose one room to go in to save either the vial of embryos or the baby.

01:55:53.000 What do you save?

01:55:55.000 It happens every time.

01:55:56.000 You know exactly who they're gonna save.

01:55:58.000 And it's like, that proves the pro-life is wrong.

01:56:01.000 And then he's like, and you know, they'll never answer the question honestly.

01:56:06.000 And I'm like, they'll save the child.

01:56:07.000 What do you mean?

01:56:08.000 Like, they'll save the child.

01:56:09.000 You save the human, and then the embryos come second, right? 0.61

01:56:11.000 When it comes to abortion, they're not talking about like, There's two babies in the womb and only one can be saved and you have to make a hard choice.

01:56:20.000 It's potentiality.

01:56:22.000 When there's a living human child and embryos, clearly they're going to prioritize the child.

01:56:28.000 It's still not contradictory because they don't understand what the conservative argument is.

01:56:33.000 They don't want to.

01:56:34.000 I just think they want to go on TV and be told they're good people and they feel good about it.

01:56:39.000 It's like, am I a good person today?

01:56:40.000 Yes, you're a good person.

01:56:42.000 If I tweet empty platitudes, we'll give you a treat.

01:56:46.000 I think the abortion conversation is the one, perhaps, that's the most divergent because, for example, being from the Northeast, do not bring up abortion.

01:56:58.000 In the Northeast?

01:56:59.000 Yeah, don't.

01:57:00.000 Just don't.

01:57:01.000 Any Thanksgiving dinner?

01:57:03.000 Do not bring that up.

01:57:04.000 Oh, I've made that mistake.

01:57:06.000 And it's not even as, you know, it's not even me saying like, oh, you know, I think that, you know, anybody who uses the Plan B pill goes to hell.

01:57:15.000 I'm not saying that.

01:57:16.000 I'm just like, even just having a conversation that even introduces, what about the third trimester?

01:57:21.000 What about the second trimester?

01:57:23.000 You know, even just asking that question, you know, what about babies being viable outside of the womb now because of technology?

01:57:28.000 You know, it's, you know, six months or whatever.

01:57:30.000 Plastic bags. 0.89

01:57:31.000 What about the idea that the baby is created at conception, but you still have the right to kill it?

01:57:40.000 Well, according to Ralph Northam, you just got to make them feel nice after they come out of the womb. 0.98

01:57:45.000 Remember he said that on a radio show, Ralph Northam, the governor of Virginia?

01:57:48.000 Who's killing it?

01:57:49.000 I don't know, the doctor or whatever?

01:57:51.000 See, the challenge I have with it is... Well, it's the health of the mother.

01:57:53.000 That's commonly, you know, that's a huge, I think, kind of moral obstacle for the pro-life argument, which is like, you know, in situations where there's like rape, for example, or where the mother's life is threatened by the, you know, by maintaining that baby as viable or fetus or whatever you want to call it at that stage.

01:58:14.000 That's a slippery slope.

01:58:15.000 What does rape have to do with that? 1.00

01:58:17.000 Well, because rape has to do with whether or not the mother made a decision for that baby to even be conceived in the first place. 0.98

01:58:25.000 And that's the libertarian challenge that I have, which puts me in the libertarian pro-choice camp, which is morally Difficult to put it mildly.

01:58:33.000 Yes, exactly.

01:58:34.000 Because mandating that the government say, your body is now occupied and you have no right to your personal autonomy is like a challenging position.

01:58:44.000 You know, the argument I guess from the conservatives is you would kill the baby by removing it.

01:58:48.000 And I'm like, that's true, but who gives that other entity a right to my body?

01:58:53.000 Right, because the mom, if she's got a baby and they say it's illegal to get an abortion, the mom could just start drinking really heavily, destroy the embryo and have it abort or stress out or jump on the ground. 1.00

01:59:06.000 I mean, you could do crazy things.

01:59:07.000 I'm very, very obviously in the libertarian camp on this one.

01:59:10.000 And there's different libertarian opinions, obviously.

01:59:13.000 But then you have the liberal, modern, progressive opinion of everyone should get abortions because babies don't matter and they're not alive and embryos aren't real.

01:59:21.000 That was the point of that, you know, bringing up the tweet was the guy viewed embryos as not being living things.

01:59:26.000 And I'm like, they are, but there's a literal human child.

01:59:29.000 And if you're like doing a trolley problem or something, or like Spider-Man's got to save Mary Jane or a school busload of kids.

01:59:35.000 Sure.

01:59:36.000 That's totally different from whether or not someone should get an abortion and that's killing a baby. 1.00

01:59:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:59:40.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 I don't want to get into a whole debate on that one, though.

01:59:42.000 We got to read some more super chats.

01:59:44.000 Doobie McNasty says Richie is awesome.

01:59:46.000 He has the type of personal constitution to run up to someone, run up on someone with a rifle and try to save the life of a person who got shot regardless of the context.

01:59:54.000 That's called heroism.

01:59:55.000 There you go.

01:59:56.000 Thanks Doobie man.

01:59:58.000 Appreciate it.

01:59:59.000 Alright, let's see.

02:00:02.000 Nick S says, had to cut a lefty friend of 5 plus years out of my life.

02:00:05.000 They really do take you literally, not seriously.

02:00:08.000 Sad.

02:00:09.000 In Trump voice.

02:00:09.000 I like how you put the parentheses.

02:00:11.000 In Trump voice.

02:00:11.000 Sad.

02:00:12.000 Country.

02:00:13.000 Whenever you say country, you gotta drop the tone.

02:00:15.000 Country.

02:00:17.000 In this country.

02:00:19.000 Puerto Rico.

02:00:20.000 Puerto Rico!

02:00:21.000 Christopher Mars says, I was in public school till high school, force fed and prescribed

02:00:29.000 experimental medication, some of which would give me physical pain, and was told to ignore

02:00:33.000 it.

02:00:34.000 I was most definitely not the only one.

02:00:36.000 I've met a lot of people who've been put through the same.

02:00:40.000 And you're like, it doesn't, it doesn't feel right for me.

02:00:42.000 And they're like, no, but this is how it is.

02:00:45.000 You know, go your own route.

02:00:47.000 Do what feels right for you.

02:00:49.000 Well, that's, that's an interesting philosophical question too, because like, there's like the paternalistic model of, of medical, the medical profession, which is like, basically the doctor's like, you need to do this or you're going to hurt yourself.

02:00:59.000 Or kind of the more, you know, we're having a conversation and we come to the best decision together.

02:01:06.000 Like, I feel like that's the same thing with the government that we're talking about right now.

02:01:09.000 It's like, does government just say, Nope, this is what's best for you.

02:01:11.000 Get the vaccine now and or get the abortion or whatever. 0.93

02:01:15.000 Or do they say, you know.

02:01:17.000 It breaks down into so many aspects of life, like even my shooting stance.

02:01:20.000 I was taking my own shooting stance that felt natural for me.

02:01:24.000 Luke was helping me and he was like repositioning me.

02:01:26.000 And I think like, I'm just not normal.

02:01:29.000 I do things differently.

02:01:31.000 And I do them better often because I do them differently.

02:01:34.000 So sometimes, you know, you want to break the mold, especially when I see kids getting put on psych.

02:01:39.000 I mean, that's a whole other conversation.

02:01:39.000 Yeah.

02:01:41.000 T-Home says, listening to Ian's argument against piracy last Friday made my mushroom trip difficult.

02:01:47.000 Take more psilocybin, Ian.

02:01:48.000 That is awesome, dude.

02:01:49.000 What do you think, Richie, about, um, this is a big conversation.

02:01:52.000 Piracy, so if you write a song, and then sell it on iTunes, and then I download it, but then copy it and give it away to everybody for free, is that theft?

02:02:04.000 Um, are you stealing the guy who's copying?

02:02:07.000 Are you selling it or are you just listening to it yourself?

02:02:10.000 So everyone's downloading it to listen to it for free.

02:02:12.000 But does everybody just listen to it personally?

02:02:14.000 You're selling a song and then instead of downloading it, people all just start downloading it from a torrent site for free.

02:02:19.000 Is that theft?

02:02:20.000 I mean, I think the people who can pay for it are going to pay for it because they value the artist.

02:02:23.000 And I think that'll be enough.

02:02:24.000 It has been enough.

02:02:25.000 Musicians are rich.

02:02:27.000 That's not true.

02:02:28.000 No, no.

02:02:28.000 I mean, like most musicians.

02:02:30.000 But are the musicians that aren't making money, is it because of piracy that they're not making money?

02:02:35.000 Or is it because the record companies decide who are the anointed ones?

02:02:37.000 The problem has been solved with streaming services.

02:02:40.000 But for a while, yeah, there was a big hit to a lot of smaller bands income because of piracy.

02:02:47.000 Yeah.

02:02:47.000 Cause I always was under the impression that like, you know, during the Napster days, et cetera, it was like, you know, Metallica who was losing a couple million bucks.

02:02:55.000 Well, yeah, but if you make a hundred thousand dollars a year and if your band is making like 200 grand a year, it's five people and you've got to split that up amongst five people.

02:03:04.000 So everyone's getting kind of like 40 grand, or maybe you're getting a little bit more, they're getting a little less.

02:03:08.000 And then all of a sudden, the little album sales you did have all dropped because people just put everything on torrent sites.

02:03:15.000 Now, your band breaks up, you can't afford, it's a hobby now.

02:03:17.000 Radiohead put their album, what was it, Hail to the Thief, up for free, or Pay What You Want.

02:03:22.000 It was their highest grossing album of all time.

02:03:24.000 Yep.

02:03:24.000 Exactly.

02:03:24.000 The Pay What You Will album.

02:03:25.000 People are willing to pay, I mean, if it's good, and it's art or news content or... That's not the question though, is it theft?

02:03:32.000 If you are saying, I am selling this, it costs a dollar.

02:03:35.000 And then I go, I'm just going to download it for free.

02:03:39.000 Um, can I pass on that question?

02:03:43.000 Can I pass?

02:03:45.000 You don't have to answer a question the way someone wants you to.

02:03:48.000 Ian says it's not theft.

02:03:51.000 I'm gonna pass.

02:03:52.000 I say it's different than theft because when you steal, colloquially, it's I take it away from you and you don't have it anymore.

02:03:59.000 But if I copy your thing, it's different than stealing it.

02:04:02.000 Kind of like if you break into an office and steal top secret plans or intellectual property, it's not really theft.

02:04:08.000 If you make a copy of someone's data, it's different than taking it away from them.

02:04:11.000 You won't be charged with theft of intellectual property if you sneak into a laboratory and take photographs of it.

02:04:18.000 And then if you sell it to a foreign government, that's also not illegal.

02:04:21.000 That's not stealing.

02:04:23.000 Even though it literally is.

02:04:24.000 What about like Weird Al Yankovic?

02:04:25.000 You don't want to sell it to people as content.

02:04:27.000 Is Weird Al Yankovic theft?

02:04:28.000 It's fair use, parody and satire.

02:04:31.000 Oh, fair use.

02:04:32.000 I thought it was just like, there are a lot of people that are, you know, you don't happen.

02:04:36.000 Radiohead was able to give away their music for free because they were super rich.

02:04:40.000 And so they were like, let's, let's just tell people to pay whatever they want.

02:04:43.000 And then small businesses, people seem to think that the music, the music industry and the movie industry is all blockbusters.

02:04:50.000 As if the only movies that ever get made are big hundred million dollar ventures from Disney.

02:04:54.000 When in reality, 99% of movies are small, low-budget films made by small- Well, yeah.

02:04:59.000 There's definitely an irony going on in media where- not an irony, but I guess it's just- it seems counterintuitive, which is that as the cost per minute of production of content is going way down, like a camera that can produce HD video is like one one-hundredth the cost it was ten years ago, It's actually in Hollywood.

02:05:19.000 It's really being becoming vertically integrated.

02:05:21.000 You know, the Netflix is and all the big studios are.

02:05:25.000 It basically has to be marketed globally, like to China, to all these massive streaming audiences and the niche little independent movies are actually disappearing.

02:05:33.000 Right, so, I've known people who work in the movie industry, I know people who went to college for movies, and I know what movie production is actually like.

02:05:41.000 It's a large and massive industry of low-budget, small business, medium-sized businesses, and the massive multinational corporations that do Disney.

02:05:48.000 But just because Disney is like, oh no, we lost 100 million off of our expected billion.

02:05:54.000 And everyone goes, who cares?

02:05:55.000 Piracy isn't theft.

02:05:56.000 And then my friend goes, I lost my job today.

02:05:58.000 And I'm like, why, what happened?

02:06:00.000 Everybody pirated the movie we made.

02:06:01.000 We couldn't make any of our money back.

02:06:02.000 Yeah, but that's, they don't know that.

02:06:03.000 That's the excuse.

02:06:04.000 No, that's the excuse.

02:06:04.000 No, they do.

02:06:06.000 When a company makes crappy content.

02:06:07.000 My friend lost their job.

02:06:08.000 I don't care about that. 1.00

02:06:09.000 You don't care about my friend and losing their job because you're a thief. 0.99

02:06:11.000 Fine, whatever.

02:06:12.000 If someone makes crappy content and then they complain that it's the pirates that made it so they weren't able to sell their product.

02:06:18.000 You know, wake up! 0.99

02:06:19.000 You had a crap product. 0.99

02:06:21.000 You think that everyone was stealing their content because it was bad? 0.99

02:06:24.000 They were downloading it and checking it out and they thought it sucked, and it did suck, so it didn't sell. 0.96

02:06:30.000 Why would they download it if it sucked? 0.97

02:06:31.000 Because they wanted to find out if it sucked or if it was good. 0.99

02:06:33.000 And then they told their friends, hey, download it, it sucks. 0.99

02:06:35.000 Well, obviously not if it sucked. 0.94

02:06:38.000 So then why were they downloading it?

02:06:39.000 To see if it was good, I just told you!

02:06:41.000 So how come before piracy they were able to market it and make money and then afterwards people just said, oh, I think it sucks so I'll download it anyway?

02:06:49.000 Ian, that makes literally no sense.

02:06:51.000 There's no before and after piracy.

02:06:52.000 There's no argument.

02:06:53.000 Example, what movie came out before piracy and after piracy?

02:06:56.000 There is none.

02:06:57.000 Well, let's just use, let's use films instead of music because I think there's a kind of a certain amount of capital required in order to make a film that makes it a little bit different from an album, right?

02:07:07.000 Because you need more people to come together to make a movie, more money, right?

02:07:11.000 Like, okay, so what's happening to films right now?

02:07:15.000 Like, Independent, the independent film quote unquote business was much more vibrant when everybody was arguing that piracy was going to basically destroy the film business.

02:07:23.000 So why is it that piracy is much less of an issue now?

02:07:26.000 Technology solved the problem.

02:07:28.000 Independent film businesses.

02:07:29.000 Technology didn't solve the problem.

02:07:30.000 There are no more good independent films.

02:07:32.000 The sub $1 million budget films.

02:07:34.000 So like things have become homogenized and corporatized in an era when you would think that it's so cheap to make movies now.

02:07:41.000 Why, why don't we have good, more, more good, small films?

02:07:44.000 It's not piracy.

02:07:45.000 It's because multinational corporations are controlling basically the output of feature length films.

02:07:51.000 Where is it?

02:07:52.000 Where is that output?

02:07:53.000 China.

02:07:54.000 China.

02:07:55.000 How do you how do you watch the movie?

02:07:58.000 On a streaming something something.

02:07:59.000 And so how does an independent service distribute their movies?

02:08:03.000 OK, so basically you'd have to sell it to one of those streaming services.

02:08:06.000 And what if they say no?

02:08:08.000 Then they do.

02:08:09.000 That's what happens now.

02:08:10.000 And so then where do you distribute your movie after you made it if the streaming platforms don't want it?

02:08:15.000 China.

02:08:16.000 No, nowhere.

02:08:17.000 What do you mean?

02:08:18.000 Your website.

02:08:19.000 Nobody goes to your website to watch, you know, they go to Netflix and they watch some garbage.

02:08:25.000 The issue is Amazon, Netflix, Paramount make it so easy to watch every movie.

02:08:33.000 But if you aren't on those platforms, and I've had I had to say but I can't remember what it's not that hard to get on Those platforms though.

02:08:38.000 It's just a question of whether or not it's featured on the little browse button It's but you when I search like this.

02:08:43.000 There's like the same thing on you Post an amazing video to YouTube and nobody Frickin sees it because the the algorithm doesn't put you in there you go there There are tons of people I know who have pitched to Amazon and said and gotten turned down And they all, they produce the movies.

02:08:58.000 Is this after the movie is produced or is this like prior to production?

02:09:00.000 So a lot of companies will produce a movie and then pitch it for distribution.

02:09:04.000 Some companies will go to Amazon for funding specifically.

02:09:06.000 And I know people who have pitched Amazon and got rejected.

02:09:09.000 And I know people who have then said, we're going to distribute it through our website and we're going to do a promo campaign.

02:09:13.000 And then I know that people are like, I'll just download it for free.

02:09:18.000 I just, I don't, I don't know.

02:09:19.000 I don't necessarily, because you're featuring it on your website, then people are going to pirate it?

02:09:24.000 Yes.

02:09:26.000 I don't know.

02:09:26.000 Here's what I think.

02:09:28.000 I think that the streaming services are the gatekeepers now, and whether or not you show up in the algorithm.

02:09:33.000 And so you basically have to be one of these 10 massive production companies, and all the smaller ones are either getting swallowed up into that vertical integration, or they're not getting on the algorithm.

02:09:44.000 So those are the two options.

02:09:46.000 So why is it that people chose Amazon over what they used to do with Torrents and stuff like that?

02:09:50.000 Because it's easier.

02:09:51.000 So that's why I say, I think for the most part, it's been solved to a certain degree.

02:09:55.000 Like piracy has been very solved to a certain degree.

02:09:57.000 People still pirate.

02:09:58.000 That's what I'm saying is it's been solved and you're saying that piracy hurts the little guy.

02:10:02.000 But what I'm saying is actually the ease of the streaming platforms and the fact that like nobody has to go and find their stuff anymore.

02:10:07.000 We started the conversation by me saying the problem has mostly been solved by streaming services.

02:10:11.000 But back during the height of piracy, if someone made a movie and the budget was a hundred grand, and then you downloaded it for free, Those people could not make another movie.

02:10:22.000 Because instead of selling it what they normally would have sold, made money, and then filmed a sequel, people downloaded it.

02:10:27.000 I was at the premiere for What We Do in the Shadows.

02:10:30.000 And you know what was really funny about What We Do in the Shadows?

02:10:32.000 You guys see that movie?

02:10:34.000 What's the guy's name from Taika Waititi and Jemaine Clement.

02:10:40.000 I was there at the premiere in New York City, and after it ended, they were doing questions, and I raised my hand, and I said, I'm gonna be honest with you guys.

02:10:49.000 I already saw the movie.

02:10:52.000 It's all over the internet for free.

02:10:53.000 Does that hurt your business?

02:10:55.000 And dude, he got, Jermaine was like, yes, man!

02:10:59.000 It was a huge problem for him.

02:11:00.000 Yeah, but he doesn't know that's the problem.

02:11:02.000 Cause those, none of those people that download it may have thought it. 0.97

02:11:04.000 And you're such an arrogant, you're so mean to people.

02:11:07.000 If all those people see that though, if all those people see that, like, don't you think that, you know, that entering the popular consciousness because so many people stole your movie, there's a certain currency associated with occupying people's time and, you know, them watching your content. 0.92

02:11:21.000 Like, if I put out a movie, I'd be like, you're telling me a million people stole this and got it for free?

02:11:26.000 Cool, that's a million people who saw my movie.

02:11:28.000 And so are you making it as a hobby?

02:11:28.000 That's awesome.

02:11:29.000 How do you fund it?

02:11:30.000 I mean, I think down the road you can figure something out.

02:11:32.000 You just keep washing dishes until you... I think there's a really easy distinction here, is that I've had a lot of friends who worked in the industry lose their jobs and have their lives upended because of what happened with piracy in the 2000s.

02:11:43.000 You don't and you don't care about them.

02:11:44.000 No, the entertainment industry is dead now.

02:11:46.000 I was there.

02:11:46.000 I used to work in it and I see but I'm just arguing it.

02:11:48.000 I'm saying I'm not disagreeing that they lost their jobs.

02:11:51.000 What I'm saying is like seven years in Tibet was 1997 and that

02:11:55.000 was the first movie MGM made it and you know, China was the villain there and then after that it got banned in China

02:12:04.000 and they lost hundreds of millions of dollars.

02:12:06.000 And ever since then, we've been homogenizing and corporatizing everything that goes into theaters.

02:12:13.000 In my opinion, that homogenization has led to less independent productions.

02:12:18.000 The question was brought up based on an argument we had last week.

02:12:24.000 The answer is yes, it is.

02:12:24.000 Is piracy theft?

02:12:26.000 Well, I mean, that's your answer.

02:12:27.000 But does that theft actually result in... What if you painted a picture and someone took it and stole it and then put it in front of the White House so 100 million people saw it and everyone wanted to buy a copy of it and you became super rich?

02:12:41.000 Well, okay.

02:12:43.000 So have you gone to New York?

02:12:44.000 Yeah, I used to live there.

02:12:45.000 Did you ever walk up to somebody who's doing paintings in the street?

02:12:47.000 Mm-hmm.

02:12:48.000 And what do they have written down next to their paintings?

02:12:50.000 It's a sign.

02:12:51.000 Oh, I don't know.

02:12:51.000 No photos.

02:12:52.000 Right.

02:12:53.000 You know why?

02:12:55.000 Because people take a picture of it, and then they don't make money, and then they can't paint anymore.

02:13:01.000 Well, if you get 100 million people that copy your movie... Ian, you're a pirate.

02:13:06.000 Ian, people aren't famous.

02:13:07.000 You're gonna be fine.

02:13:08.000 People aren't famous.

02:13:09.000 If you made a movie... The movie industry is not Marvel.

02:13:12.000 The movie industry are small regional films that appear at...

02:13:15.000 No, the movie industry is Marvel now.

02:13:17.000 If you made a 30 minute movie with your friends and then a hundred million people pirated it, that is good for you.

02:13:24.000 Hey, I have an idea.

02:13:26.000 And if you buy a lottery ticket, you can win a hundred million dollars.

02:13:29.000 But the people I know who are working on small productions for regional films and going to art theaters who lost their jobs- People don't buy those, dude.

02:13:36.000 People don't buy art films.

02:13:38.000 Ian, you are- Who pays money to watch art films?

02:13:41.000 Go to Houston!

02:13:41.000 Go to New York!

02:13:42.000 They have art theaters.

02:13:43.000 It was in this genre for years.

02:13:45.000 Yeah, I agree, but... I had friends who had jobs.

02:13:48.000 They had lives.

02:13:49.000 I used to work in the industry, man.

02:13:50.000 And you don't care about that.

02:13:52.000 Well, I mean, I acknowledge what's changed about the industry.

02:13:54.000 I have sympathy that they lost a job.

02:13:57.000 You know, I don't...

02:13:59.000 Chris Rose, 1986 says, In the hospital when you were in labor, you, the mother, become second.

02:14:05.000 The doctor will do everything to save the baby first.

02:14:07.000 I have personally experienced this with my labor because my child was premature.

02:14:12.000 Interesting.

02:14:15.000 Frosty, this is interesting, this super chat was actually from a while ago before I made this point.

02:14:19.000 Using this logic on piracy, taking a photo of a painting is theft.

02:14:23.000 In some capacities, yes.

02:14:25.000 The Native Americans said if you took their picture, you were stealing their soul.

02:14:31.000 All right, now that the argument has completely subsumed the- I know, this should have been the theme of the show.

02:14:37.000 Can we get like an Ian as a pirate, like Ian as a pirate shirt?

02:14:39.000 Yeah, Ian's a pirate.

02:14:40.000 Can we get like a shirt?

02:14:41.000 Okay, hold on.

02:14:42.000 No, it's a shirt with Ian as a pirate, and he's saying, I'm gonna steal your corn.

02:14:46.000 I am the captain now.

02:14:47.000 Yes.

02:14:47.000 Just be on a boat with a bunch of corn.

02:14:50.000 Richie, last week, Ian argued that he can steal farmer's corn.

02:14:54.000 I did not argue.

02:14:55.000 He did.

02:14:55.000 Oh, I used to do that.

02:14:56.000 I grew up across the street.

02:14:58.000 I did.

02:14:58.000 Yeah.

02:14:59.000 And I use Napster and I did.

02:15:00.000 I stole it.

02:15:01.000 The farm across the street.

02:15:02.000 You're all over.

02:15:02.000 Nice.

02:15:03.000 I did stole it.

02:15:04.000 But are you familiar with farmer?

02:15:05.000 What?

02:15:06.000 Seven years.

02:15:06.000 Yeah.

02:15:07.000 It was more than seven years ago.

02:15:08.000 It was like 20 something years ago.

02:15:09.000 It's OK.

02:15:10.000 Well, you admit it.

02:15:11.000 Yanet Santana says Ian has no idea how the real world works.

02:15:14.000 Send him to Cuba for one week with no Western Union. 0.86

02:15:17.000 That was a very vague statement.

02:15:20.000 You're 42 years old for Christ's sake!

02:15:21.000 It's forgery if you're saying it's the original.

02:15:23.000 Megan says, Bros, making copies is not piracy, it's forgery.

02:15:25.000 Ian, please read what I sent you on Minds Chat.

02:15:28.000 Not enough room in Super Chat to explain the rest.

02:15:30.000 It's forgery if you're saying it's the original.

02:15:32.000 If you're just copying it.

02:15:34.000 Curtis Reynolds says, I'm guessing Ian steals content every day.

02:15:38.000 That's why he's so adamant that piracy isn't theft.

02:15:40.000 Of course it's theft.

02:15:41.000 Every act of piracy steals income from the producer.

02:15:45.000 Blood on Ian's hands.

02:15:46.000 Of course it's theft.

02:15:47.000 You literally have the blood of unemployed musicians on your hands.

02:15:52.000 I ruin the music industry.

02:15:53.000 It's true.

02:15:54.000 Ian himself, by himself.

02:15:57.000 Will.i.am says, sorry Ian, if I work on something with my brain and you use it without compensation, it is stealing whether it's good or not.

02:16:04.000 Says who? 0.65

02:16:05.000 Says Will.i.am.

02:16:06.000 Says the US government?

02:16:08.000 Says the law that was written before today?

02:16:10.000 Let's change the law.

02:16:14.000 All right, let's see.

02:16:14.000 So what's up, Will?

02:16:15.000 You know there used to be campaigns telling people not to record the radio?

02:16:19.000 Because you could put a cassette tape on and press record and they would be like... That was my childhood.

02:16:23.000 I had a double tape.

02:16:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:16:24.000 It's like, are you recording from the radio?

02:16:25.000 That's... Wait till Kokomo from the Beach Boys came on and hit record right after it starts.

02:16:29.000 Or like on Miss the Beginning of a Song.

02:16:30.000 The issue is, everyone always says, well, who cares about the rich people?

02:16:35.000 And I'm like, bro, I don't.

02:16:36.000 I'm not talking about them.

02:16:38.000 I'm talking about the small businesses that were destroyed by this.

02:16:40.000 I think it's definitely different.

02:16:42.000 When you have a small business and Disney and the revenue drops because of piracy, the small business goes below the line.

02:16:49.000 You're assuming it's because of piracy.

02:16:51.000 I'm not assuming it.

02:16:52.000 There's been studies that say that it enhances the sales of products.

02:16:56.000 I think that's the best way you've framed the argument thus far, which is that, you know, basically, like, for example, with the shoplifting stuff, like these massive corporations can deal with that.

02:17:05.000 But if you're a small business, you can't absorb it.

02:17:05.000 They can absorb it.

02:17:08.000 I get that.

02:17:10.000 Yep.

02:17:11.000 So if you take away 20% of the margin from small production companies, and their margin is 18%, they're out of business.

02:17:19.000 You take away 20% from Disney, and they're like, oh no, I guess we'll only make a billion dollars this time.

02:17:24.000 I just think it's more the kind of the corporatization of art, music, films just over the course of American history to become more and more corporate regardless of the cost per minute of video.

02:17:37.000 And so like the same group think that we see in the news is happening in Hollywood and like You know, but there are the Tim pools and you know, I think

02:17:45.000 there are new independent filmmakers out there Who I think there'll be a new Hollywood new?

02:17:49.000 I gotta read this one's great. Orias raffle Cal Cal says tell us the name of your friend's movie or it's fake

02:17:55.000 so I'm 35 years old when I was 18 and used to hang out at Columbia in Chicago with like a

02:18:03.000 network of 30 or so people who are doing various music and film industry stuff and

02:18:09.000 And then when I was 20, I had friends be like, I lost my job.

02:18:11.000 And like a bunch of them lost their jobs.

02:18:13.000 Like, yeah, I don't know the names of all the movies they were working on or the albums they were producing.

02:18:18.000 It happened.

02:18:20.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out.

02:18:21.000 We're going to have a bonus segment, though, so if you want to hear more rage and maybe I'll flip the table over, you know what we'll do?

02:18:26.000 The new studio is a few weeks away from being done.

02:18:29.000 We'll just film ourselves office-spacing the whole studio and just... No, we won't do that.

02:18:32.000 We're going to still use the studio.

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02:18:53.000 Okay.

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02:19:26.000 He would definitely not be happy to call the job and he's a big marine I had a friend named Jeff was by the way, I was Joff Joff Hey, follow me, Ian Crossland.

02:19:37.000 Party on.

02:19:38.000 Nice.

02:19:39.000 The pirate!

02:19:39.000 Yes, the pirate.

02:19:40.000 Follow the pirate.

02:19:41.000 You guys may follow me as well on Twitter and Sour Patch Lits.

02:19:46.000 No, go ahead.

02:19:47.000 Oh yeah, I had a little bit more.

02:19:48.000 I was going to say, you guys have to help me get more followers in Sour Patch Kids, because that's my goal in life and it would mean a lot to me.

02:19:54.000 We gotta make the Ian Pirate shirt.

02:19:57.000 That's gonna be him.

02:19:58.000 My favorite Ian-Tim fight of all time.

02:20:00.000 Stealing corn.

02:20:01.000 I used to work at a grocery store and I would write the announcements and then record them for the store and I created the Acme Pirate.

02:20:09.000 You talk like that.

02:20:10.000 That's a salenial term.

02:20:12.000 Get that out.

02:20:13.000 It's like the liquid gold.

02:20:15.000 Alright, we'll wrap it up there.

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