Brandon Strock is the founder of the Walkaway Movement, a group dedicated to walking away from the Democratic Party. In this episode, Brandon talks about how he started the movement, why he left the party, and why he thinks it's time to walk away.
00:00:40.000I used to bristle when people said WalkAway movement because when I started WalkAway it was, well it is WalkAway campaign, but then a bunch of copycat groups instantly came out and they were calling themselves WalkAway movement, WalkAway, and so people didn't know which groups to join.
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00:02:32.000So I guess we'll just dive into the conversation.
00:02:35.000Normally I do like to just kind of draw the beginning out with like explanations and stuff because I want to make sure enough people have a chance to actually get in.
00:02:43.000You know some people are getting notifications right now.
00:03:12.000And so I always voted Democrat and I did it pretty thoughtlessly, too.
00:03:15.000I mean, even if I didn't know who the candidate was or whatever, just I would go in and check anything with a D next to it, basically.
00:03:21.000And for me, I think the greatest reason why I was drawn to do that is because I'm gay and because the messaging and the marketing, I think, of the Democrats and the liberal media and the whole, you know, leftist machine Very effectively is that, you know, Republicans are the party of greedy, self-interested, straight white people and Democrats are the only people who care about marginalized communities in this country like black people, brown people, LGBT people, etc.
00:03:50.000And so I sort of thoughtlessly considered myself a liberal and thoughtlessly was voting Democrat.
00:03:57.000And then in 2016, I was very excited to vote for Hillary Clinton, which I did.
00:04:06.000It was a big joke, basically, that Trump was running for office until it became clear that he was going to win the primary and actually become the candidate.
00:04:12.000And then it's like it changed overnight from it being really funny to suddenly Hitler is running for office.
00:04:36.000I mean, even when they changed the narrative very quickly, which I think that they did.
00:04:41.000I know it sounds a little bit conspiratorial, but I mean, I do believe that the media kind of bands together to create the The narratives and the manipulation and you know, whatever it is that you know What what they're gonna be pushing in terms of you know, the narrative of the story and so suddenly it became Trump's a racist Trump's a bigot Trump's a homophobe Trump's a monster and so are his followers and So we have to eliminate this guy.
00:05:07.000That's what I think they were going with So when he got elected president, I was shocked and confused and outraged, but more than anything, I was scared.
00:05:15.000I was terrified because I really did believe that, you know, as a gay man, I really watched our culture change during the Obama years.
00:05:23.000Like, you know, when Obama went, and I'm not saying that's because of Obama, don't get me wrong, but I'm saying when Obama started, there was still a lot of blatant homophobia that was happening and a lot of resistance to, you know, marriage equality, things like that.
00:05:56.000He wants to send black people back to Africa Pence wants to throw us all into concentration camps in Pennsylvania and shock us all straight and I did hear all those things to be like no.
00:06:08.000Yeah No, I mean it's absurd and obviously I'm you know, not coming across as a great genius here But like I I bought into the vast majority of all of it.
00:06:16.000I was like, you know and So I was scared and I wanted to, part of me wanted to punish his base for voting for him.
00:06:27.000But the other part of me wanted to just stop being so scared and angry and confused and outraged and all these things.
00:06:34.000So I kind of went on this journey of research.
00:06:37.000God, this is a terrible elevator pitch.
00:06:38.000Is the show even... Are the two hours up?
00:07:05.000And so I started kind of researching it, and in January of 2017, right around the time he was about to take office, I posted something on social media that ended up changing my life forever.
00:07:15.000And I didn't know that it was going to, but again, I wanted to punish people who voted for him.
00:07:21.000I was constantly putting out these really nasty posts and, you know, you guys are such idiots and thanks for ruining the world and, you know, whatever.
00:07:27.000But in January I posted that I would never be able to understand how anyone could vote for a man who was capable of standing before a cheering crowd and mocking a reporter's disability, right?
00:07:39.000Like, what happened to the decency and the soul and just the humanity of middle America?
00:09:22.000So, it's a compilation video showing Donald Trump in certain circumstances, even before he was running for president.
00:09:29.000You know, when he was on Larry King, early 2000s or something.
00:09:33.000But it's a it's a compilation of six, seven, eight times when he did that exact same voice and gesture as he did at that rally, which is basically like, oh, yeah.
00:09:42.000And he goes, oh, with his arm and he's flailing.
00:09:45.000And but in every single circumstance, he's imitating somebody who's flailing because they were caught in a lie or doing something shady or doing something dishonest.
00:09:55.000But on that day, he happened to be doing it, imitating somebody who really did have a disability.
00:10:53.000Like, and I don't want to see something that makes it harder for me to hate him.
00:10:56.000And so I watched it three times in a row and I couldn't make sense of it.
00:10:59.000And so I went to bed and I, I just kind of told myself, okay, you can watch it again later.
00:11:04.000Don't, you don't have to make sense of it right now.
00:11:07.000It kept me up almost all night and I woke up the next day and I opened my computer and I watched it again first thing and it was like crystal clear.
00:11:15.000He didn't mock a reporter's disability.
00:11:17.000But this presented an even bigger conundrum for me because if he didn't mock a reporter's disability, why did CNN tell me that he did?
00:11:57.000And I found, I talk about this one a lot because I found this really interesting footage of, it wasn't any like, you know, social media influencers or famous people or anything, but it was a group of black people.
00:12:09.000Who had gone to a Trump rally to support him.
00:12:12.000And when they got there, they situated themselves in the seats and then CNN moved the camera so that they wouldn't be in the shot.
00:12:21.000And they said they were outside of the, after the rally was over, they went, they were being interviewed by people and they were like, CNN just completely moved the camera when we sat down in front of them, because God forbid, people would see black people supporting Trump.
00:12:33.000That shatters the white supremacist narrative, right?
00:12:36.000There's a meme right now, and it says, if they're claiming this man is a Nazi and this woman is a white supremacist, they're brainwashing you, and it's Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens.
00:12:50.000You put up the video, I don't remember exactly when, where you mentioned your walk away moment.
00:14:54.000Well, I was just asking why you don't like it when he does those things, says those things, acts that way.
00:15:01.000One thing is, I'm not a big fan of inefficiency.
00:15:04.000And I think if you've got a bunch of people that are looking for excuses, stop giving them excuses.
00:15:09.000Try and figure out how to navigate this properly.
00:15:11.000And it seems like we often hear about Trump playing 4D chess, where he successfully manipulates, and he does these things that triggers and makes them look crazy.
00:15:22.000Look, I think Trump is a great entertainer, and I think he's a very, very funny guy.
00:15:27.000But I feel like he could be, he could, well actually I feel like he is starting to do it.
00:15:32.000He's starting to actually play a better role.
00:15:35.000Maybe his history or the smears against him will, you know, hold him back quite a bit.
00:15:41.000But I was always thinking like, I've said this several times, if the Democrats put forward someone with Trump's policies but didn't do this kind of, you know, bombastic behavior, they'd probably win.
00:15:52.000Well, and the reverse could have been said in the past, too.
00:15:55.000I mean, because I always used to think Republican, you know, as a Democrat and as a liberal, I thought to myself, I actually think that Republicans in many ways have better policies, but they have such terrible PR in a way.
00:16:07.000You know, I mean, there's such a toxic image that Republicans have.
00:16:11.000But this kind of brings it full circle, because the reason why I asked you that question about why don't you like it?
00:16:17.000is because I didn't used to like it either.
00:16:19.000I mean, this is someone who literally hated Trump.
00:16:22.000And then, you know, something that's important for people to understand is,
00:16:26.000I didn't walk away from the left straight into Trump's arms.
00:16:29.000I mean, there was, I made a decision in March of 2017 was the day,
00:16:34.000the final straw for me was when Rachel Maddow got on Twitter and said,
00:16:41.000Now I'd been researching for two months up until this point, like religiously.
00:16:46.000And I had found just a whole Bible full of examples of the media lying, manipulating,
00:16:53.000race baiting, using, you know, hate crime hoaxes, things like this.
00:16:59.000It was all piling up for me and I was literally like completely out the door.
00:17:05.000And then all of a sudden Rachel Maddow gets on Twitter and she says, I've got his tax returns, I've got his tax returns.
00:17:09.000And I thought to myself, this is really bad, but I'm just, I'm being honest.
00:17:14.000I was like, OK, if I tune in tonight and she's got some smoking gun about his tax returns, I'm going to forget about everything I learned the last two months.
00:17:22.000And I'm going to get right back on the I hate Trump train.
00:17:24.000I'm just going to like cognitive distance.
00:17:26.000I'm just going to pretend like it didn't happen.
00:17:28.000Like that's literally was my mentality.
00:17:30.000And I really thought there was a chance too.
00:17:32.000So like, and she did that pretty early in the day.
00:17:35.000So we all had to wait like hours to tell her show was on.
00:17:38.000So we sit there and I'm sure you saw it.
00:17:40.000She vamped for about 45 minutes, just literally talking gibberish about nothing.
00:17:45.000And then finally in like the last segment of her show, she produced two pieces of paper, which showed that he paid his taxes in 2005, like $35 million or something.
00:17:54.000She got roasted for this because it made Trump look good.
00:17:59.000And one of the conspiracy theories was that the Trump camp actually seeded these because they knew she couldn't resist and they knew it would make Trump look good and it would do exactly what you experienced.
00:18:45.000So all of these fake stories about Trump, it's a goldmine for them.
00:18:48.000Well, and then the other thing that they'll do too is if the opposition ends up finding evidence of their own wrongdoing, then they just start attacking the character of the opposition or, you know, planting seeds of doubt in the evidence.
00:19:04.000I mean, she was, during the Russian thing, she was, I watched her show a couple of times.
00:19:08.000You can only stomach it a few times, but.
00:19:11.000I watched a few of her shows and she was going back and she was really obsessing about Nixon and trying to draw a connection between Trump and Nixon and you know and that's basically I think that she knew that the evidence was so flimsy or evidence you know against Trump that what she tried to do was get everyone all riled up about Nixon and then just be like oh and by the way Trump's like Nixon you know and that would be the end of the show.
00:19:32.000Transfer all that hate over like build it up and then send it to Trump.
00:19:36.000So I'm sorry the reason why I asked you that question is because I finally walked away in March of 2018 and then it was probably another five or six months before I became a Trump fan.
00:19:45.000And the reason why I became a Trump fan is because I developed a hatred for the media.
00:20:33.000Oh, so when I finally discovered how much I hate the media and how toxic they are and what they're doing and the ways especially that they're manipulating minorities and stuff, then I started to see That this rhetoric from Trump and his take no BS and, but it's not just take no BS.
00:21:00.000And it's like, it's so empowering to all of these people on the right, conservatives, who a lot of these people, they're just living day to day, paycheck to paycheck, trying to figure out if they're going to have enough money to pay their bills next month.
00:23:49.000Like everything I see all the time, the Democrat, like Biden, he's not even, I don't know if you saw my tweet about it, but it seemed, I said, you know, Biden-Harris is kind of like when you're in a rush and your socks are dirty, so you grab two random ones out of the drawer.
00:24:09.000But part of me still feels like with all the mail-in voting stuff, everything they're doing, that they're gonna play dirty games to try and shut him out.
00:24:50.000She's actually really cut me out of her life.
00:24:53.000She's one of like 90% of my former friends who cut me out.
00:24:57.000But she did, we did have a dinner together after that and I was trying delicately to explain to her how biased the media is.
00:25:05.000Now I didn't think that she would take this personally because she's kind of on, I mean she's more on like the production end, but she said to me, She's like, well, I, you know, I'm, I am the media.
00:25:15.000And she was like, I just, I don't agree with what you're saying.
00:25:40.000They created the Hillary graphic, but they didn't even bother to create the Trump wins graphic.
00:25:45.000So we've often talked about how, like, how did the media miss this?
00:25:48.000There was a study that was done, I've cited several times, from I think it's the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, that found the Beltway bubble is worse now than it was in 2016.
00:27:05.000So, I think what really helped me and prevented me from, you know... Actually, let me put it this way.
00:27:11.000You know, Bernie Sanders and Trump had a lot in common early on.
00:27:14.000And so, for me, right away, I'm on the ground, I was covering these Trump rallies, I was meeting these people who were going to the rallies, and I was hearing a lot of them say, you know, Bernie has said these things too, so we like him, but he's kind of too far left for us and we want a businessman.
00:27:31.000And then after Bernie Sanders lost the nomination, I actually met several Trump supporters who flipped from Bernie to Trump, who said straight up their biggest issue was NAFTA and the TPP.
00:27:41.000I met one older guy who said, look, I work at a factory, I have kids, the factory is going to shut down next year.
00:27:47.000Bernie Sanders said that he was going to end TPP and deal with NAFTA, and that would have saved my factory.
00:27:53.000So I had one guy met him, I think this was in Janesville, Wisconsin, who told me that Because Bernie Sanders was a politician who had the experience.
00:28:02.000He thought he was the right choice, even though he was really far left.
00:28:05.000And then once Bernie got the boot, Donald Trump was his only choice.
00:28:12.000And I think that a lot of people are surprised when they hear people, for a lot of people, there's a closer gap between Trump and Bernie than there is between Biden and Bernie.
00:29:24.000Now he's now I think he's, wow, no new wars and actually trying to end the, you know, the war in Afghanistan and Iraq and the establishment is trying to shut him down.
00:30:27.000Well, no, coronavirus ruined the economy, and you want to keep the economy ruined by keeping everything shut down, and then you want to blame Trump because you want to keep everything shut down.
00:34:04.000Well, you know, people talk a lot about how, you know, in our society today, you know, young people are not taught how to think, but just what to think.
00:34:13.000They don't really know how to think clearly for themselves.
00:34:15.000In a way, I think that kind of carries over into society at large because, you know, the whole, and look, I'm no great scientist, don't get me wrong, but I know that the whole point of scientific theory and, you know, hypothesis and hypothesis and experimentation is, You rule out what does not work.
00:34:34.000You don't start by saying, this is the right answer and no one's allowed to challenge me.
00:34:39.000So I mean, why we're telling certain doctors who are contradicting the narrative, why we're shutting them down, banning them on social media and canceling them rather than testing their theory and saying your theory is bunk, this doesn't work.
00:35:01.000Like, I do not believe it's fair to say that hydroxychloroquine is a cure.
00:35:07.000I look to Harvey Rich, MD, PhD, because some of the doctors actually cited him, and he says it's just something that would help if used very early on.
00:35:47.000Now, when you're talking about masks and kind of how you feel about it, how do you feel about these jerks who don't wear them on airplanes, people like that?
00:36:17.000No, that story was very much misreported and there's kind of like a dual side to it too, which was, it was one of, in all of my trials and tribulations since I started WalkAway, and there's been a lot, that was the most helpless, honestly, I've ever felt because almost no one from the conservative media came to my aid when, I mean, it just, it was spinning out of control and fast and it went international.
00:36:40.000I was, I was on the airplane because they took me off the flight and they actually put me on another flight.
00:36:47.000And by the time I landed, uh, it was on CNN.
00:37:20.000Maybe even the majority were, but I was not the only person not wearing a mask on the plane.
00:37:25.000And I fly a lot, so I know that on every flight up until that point, they would make an announcement at the beginning, please be courteous and respectful to those who are unable to wear a mask.
00:37:36.000So clearly, it's their policy that not everybody has to wear a mask, that some people cannot, and you should be courteous and respectful to those who cannot.
00:37:46.000So, I had never worn a mask, I had never been asked to wear a mask before on a flight, and I was doing nothing out of the ordinary on that day.
00:37:54.000I was on the plane, we were very close to taking off, and this overzealous flight attendant walked up to me and said, literally, this is how the conversation began.
00:38:04.000First comments I ever got, she said, Sir, you need to put on your mask right now or you can't be on this plane.
00:39:21.000And again, I'm not saying I'm right here.
00:39:23.000I was being stupid and I was having a, you know, a petty thing where I wanted to point out that there's a difference between law and policy.
00:39:29.000And I didn't like their tone, whatever.
00:39:32.000So once I got to the point where I realized I was like, this is really dumb.
00:39:36.000I just said, look, I just want to point out.
00:39:38.000I was like, none of you have even bothered to ask if I might have a medical condition that prevents me from being able to wear a mask.
00:39:54.000When they came back, they brought the pilots and they brought a manager from American Airlines.
00:39:59.000And the manager from American Airlines was like really not feeling me.
00:40:03.000Like from the moment she walked over, like just, and see, this is another thing that bothers me too, in this age of like mask wearing and COVID.
00:40:10.000Anybody in the hospitality industry has given themselves a complete pass to just be a total a-hole whenever they want.
00:40:17.000I mean, you walk into a restaurant, you walk into a hotel, where's your mask?
00:40:25.000Our policy here is that you have to wear, like, you know, none of that anymore.
00:40:28.000Now people are just giving themselves carte blanche to be the biggest jerks that they want to be.
00:40:33.000So the manager walks up to me and she had an attitude right from the beginning and she was just like, she was like, you know, I hear that you're refusing to wear a mask and whatever.
00:41:06.000I gathered my things and I left the flight.
00:41:09.000And when I got off the flight, I went to the man, a different manager who was waiting outside and I explained the situation and that manager said, wow, it sounds like, you know, that was not handled very well.
00:41:22.000And then the, the, the manager that came into the plane who was, had an attitude, she came up to me and she said very quietly, she was like, Did anyone from our staff ask you if you had a medical condition?
00:41:32.000And I said, no, that was my point all along.
00:41:35.000And she was like, okay, well, they really should have.
00:41:37.000And I was like, yeah, they really should have.
00:42:27.000Uh, it became a huge story because I think CNN broke it and literally within like 24 hours, it went international.
00:42:33.000And I mean, it was really bad and I have a thick skin.
00:42:35.000I mean, it, it didn't hurt me or anything, but it was, you know, they, they went through my videos and they found like, look how expressive I am.
00:42:43.000So they freeze phrase moments where I'm like.
00:42:46.000And they used that as the cover photo and they're like, Trump supporter refuses to wear a mask on plane.
00:42:54.000And I think the story got so big at that point that then American Airlines called me about two or three days later and said, you're banned from the airline.
00:43:04.000So this was never a thing about me feeling that a private company doesn't have the right to make their own policies, whatever.
00:43:11.000For me, this was just a thing that your policy is that some people cannot wear a mask.
00:43:16.000So don't you feel an obligation to ask a person if there's a reason why they're not wearing one, rather than tell them, put your mask on or get off the plane, because that's not your policy.
00:43:26.000Not only that, there were tons of stories about how airlines weren't enforcing mask policies too.
00:43:30.000My thing was very much like, look, I think I saw a video from you, and then I saw the story, and I very passively looked at it, and I was just like, just wear the mask, whatever, man.
00:43:40.000But it is interesting, because you could have just said, sorry, and put a mask on.
00:45:07.000But the way I see it is, do I have a better shot at letting people know what's going on by talking about all these things, or should I just get angry and shut it all down overnight because I refuse on something like saying a name?
00:45:33.000I totally understand the, don't come to me and tell me, don't make up a fake policy and come at me, or don't exaggerate the policy, or don't disrespect me.
00:45:42.000Like you said, you're not seeing people saying, I'm sorry sir, it's our policy to wear a mask.
00:45:47.000They're coming at you in a very aggressive manner.
00:45:50.000If someone came to me and got in my face, you're less likely, you know, you get more flies with honey than with vinegar, right?
00:46:02.000Yeah, I was boarding a plane and usually, this is really really funny, you may notice that I just kind of, you know, wear an unbuttoned shirt not tucked in with a beanie on, so I probably don't look like someone who should be flying first class.
00:46:19.000I have, as many people have jokingly referred to me, some kind of obsessive-compulsive whatever.
00:46:24.000I get up about 20 minutes before every flight, and I get in line.
00:46:27.000I want to get in, I want to get my carry-on in, and I want to get out of the way as fast as possible.
00:46:32.000I don't want to be stuck behind anybody else, and I don't want anyone stuck behind me.
00:46:35.000So my thing is like, if I'm in the first boarding group, I'm in, I'm down, and I'm out of your way, and you're out of my way, and we're good to go.
00:46:41.000So I get in line, and this old couple walks past me, and I'm literally, like, standing.
00:46:46.000They're about to call, you know, the first group.
00:46:48.000They walk right in front of me to stop in front of me.
00:46:51.000And so I was confused, and I assumed when they called, you know, group one or whatever for first class, they just stood there.
00:47:31.000And so, they brought me, you know, we went to the plane, and they were also sitting, you know, a couple rows back in first class, and the lady was livid that I was allowed on or whatever, and like, I always sit in the bulkhead, so I was like seat 1A, and I was furious.
00:47:47.000I was like, I was attacked by this woman who was angry because she cut me in line, and I didn't do anything, and then now you expect me to get on this plane and say nothing.
00:47:56.000Otherwise, you're gonna kick me off the plane.
00:47:58.000And they said, or we'll have you both arrested.
00:48:01.000So, needless to say, I have, you know, I can understand your frustration and getting, you know, pushed around a little bit.
00:48:08.000But, uh, I was a dedicated American Airlines flyer before that happened.
00:48:13.000Well, it's interesting, too, because I...
00:48:17.000Like I said, I fly constantly, and maybe I just wasn't paying attention before, but now I notice that their flights are cheaper than everyone else's.
00:48:25.000Every time I have to book, I'm spending hundreds of dollars more every week.
00:48:53.000So, when you first got here, I was like, you know, normally what we like to do is we like to grab, like, the relevant news stories that might matter to you.
00:49:15.000And I was like, what I said was, I walked away from the Democrats, I think, officially, like April or something, when I was like, I am done donating to these people.
00:49:24.000I donated to a few of these, you know, a few of these Democrats because I thought we needed to try and salvage, you know, find some people who are challenging the Democratic establishment to make sure the party doesn't fall into, you know, the hands of the, you know, the Dark Lord or whatever.
00:49:40.000So, look, I think Tulsi is great, and I donated to her, and I was straight up like, Tulsi is the right choice because she's willing to bridge the gap with Trump supporters, talked with Tucker Carlson, she's very anti-war, I love it, and then she supported impeachment, although I think she ultimately abstained, or whatever.
00:49:59.000You can see what they do to Tulsi and how they treated her.
00:50:02.000I don't think they can be salvaged, at this point at least.
00:50:06.000And then Yang went right on board with all this stuff too.
00:50:09.000And I just felt like the people that I thought I was going to support, who were going to try and push back on the absurdity, joined right in the moment they had the opportunity.
00:50:15.000And I should have learned my lesson with Bernie Sanders.
00:50:18.000You know Bernie doesn't say millionaires anymore?
00:51:54.000That means if you're watching a fight between antifun, say the Proud Boys, I better not let the audience know that the Proud Boys were only defending themselves.
00:53:17.000You said walk away from the left, though.
00:53:19.000I mean, I can rag on Democrats all day and night, but I don't see my political opinions changing, for the most part.
00:53:25.000I will say, with all of the chaos and destruction in a lot of these cities, at this point, even though my policy ideas and opinions, some of them are pretty, you know, deep-seated, because I've thought really hard about certain issues, you know, freedom, pro-choice, taxes, and things like that.
00:53:43.000But, I'm willing to give the Republicans a go of it in big cities, because the Democrats have completely failed.
00:53:48.000They're corrupt beyond recognition at this point.
00:53:50.000I mean, you look at the big cities, and it is... Bill de Blasio, giving his wife a $2 million staff, meanwhile he's gonna lay off EMTs.
00:55:38.000Well, and there's no acknowledgement either that New York, New Jersey, I mean the vast majority of the people who died, died in nursing homes.
00:55:45.000I think, I think it's like 40 something.
00:55:51.000So, so what do you, what, what is, what do you mean when you tell me to walk away from the left though?
00:55:56.000Well, you kind of just started to transition into, I guess what I would have said is that, you know, a lot of people say, people have a lot of opinions about, obviously about what I do.
00:56:06.000And some of the things that people say to me is that, you know, you've got to, you've got to distinguish the difference between a liberal and a leftist.
00:57:13.000For me it doesn't work that way whatsoever and I apply the same exact logic to the left in general.
00:57:18.000I don't want to hear about how you're one of the good liberals and that you're not like the other people from the same party or the same sort of ideology that you consider yourself to be a part of because once you have people in your political movement Who are beyond just race baiting, beyond telling lies, beyond creating narratives in the media that are so divisive and destructive, but are actually out looting, stealing, shooting, burning things to the ground, destroying cities, killing people, you name it.
00:57:49.000I'm not going to sit here and play this game with you.
00:58:08.000So if someone was a white nationalist and they called themselves a conservative, I could apply similar logic.
00:58:15.000Well, I'm not going to listen to you as you try and tell me you're one of the conservatives who's not on board with that, you know, fringe ideology.
00:58:25.000Well, unfortunately, though, with the example that you named, we're talking about like 65 million voters and like a few thousand that are actually white supremacists or white nationalists or whatever.
00:58:39.000And I don't believe that the discrepancy is that great in the Black Lives Matter movement or liberals in general.
00:59:04.000That's the thing, you know, my values haven't changed whatsoever, with the exception of a few policy issues, which might be a really big deal to some people.
00:59:15.000I've changed my opinion completely about a border wall, border security, or illegal immigration in general.
00:59:21.000I would have been for it before, and now I'm not.
00:59:24.000But, you know, even Bernie was talking about building border barriers and dealing with illegal immigration back, you know, 10, 12 years ago.
00:59:30.000Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, they all were.
00:59:33.000And Hillary Clinton said, we need a border barrier.
00:59:35.000So for me, when Trump came out with the wall, I was like, and?
00:59:38.000It's just what the Democrats, and then also the Democrats opposed it.
01:02:07.000They make fun of liberals every day because Center-left is not far left enough for them.
01:02:14.000So what's really fascinating to me is conservatives will talk about liberals and you know slam liberals and all that stuff and And then on these Antifa forums, I love it when they make fun of me because they call me a liberal.
01:02:26.000But these weirdo resistance types who are trying to push for Biden and the Democratic Party hate the fact that I am, and so they call me conservative.
01:03:02.000One second, but are you saying that conservatism has changed?
01:03:05.000Well, conservatism has become much more socially liberal.
01:03:10.000I think that the biggest issue is that I would not be a conservative today if people were still homophobic or if there was a lot of bigotry.
01:03:19.000And there are certain denials on the right that bother me sometimes.
01:03:23.000I have people come up to me and they say, we were never homophobic!
01:03:26.000I'm like, give me, girl, give me a break.
01:04:00.000I have a lot of generic wedge issue values that are aligned with social liberalism.
01:04:06.000I do think there's such a thing as systemic racism.
01:04:09.000I think that the left will not tell you the truth.
01:04:12.000So we can't actually have real conversations about problems in this country and ways to solve them because they want socialism and they're manipulating our emotions around racism and identity to get what they want.
01:04:22.000So, I actually do like social programs.
01:04:32.000The issue I take is, if I just say, you know what?
01:04:36.000Conservatives have become more encompassing and, you know, like the things you said about social liberalism are socially liberal in certain ways.
01:04:45.000What happens then is if someone like me just starts saying that, you know, like a person
01:04:50.000like me is conservative, then the wheel is turning in favor of the left.
01:04:55.000That means they are taking the reins and turning their fringe cultist ideology into mainstream
01:05:00.000when people like me give up where we've always been because I am not a conservative.
01:06:43.000The things that bother me about Republicans, it's more administrative and organizational than it is policy, necessarily.
01:06:53.000I've seen with my own... Here's an example.
01:06:56.000In not even two and a half years, I created a movement, and there's literally hundreds of thousands of people who have joined this movement.
01:07:45.000And not that it's about the exterior, because Republicans don't really care about the exterior, and I don't care about the exterior, but we have amazing black, brown, LGBT people who are doing incredible work, like just over, really since Trump got elected, because Trump really created this earthquake that shook a lot of people awake, myself included.
01:08:04.000But it's like the Republican Party, they're not getting the gift that's being given to them right now of all of these amazing activists and all of this, excuse the term, diversity that's kind of coming their way.
01:08:18.000I think that they just kind of have this idea that, oh, well, let's just keep playing by the same playbook and hope for a different result.
01:08:25.000The left that's been taking over the Democratic Party are the organizers and the activists.
01:08:54.000Republicans don't know this game, and a lot of the people who came out for Trump who've never been involved in politics before don't know any of politicking and how these dirty games are played.
01:09:03.000So what ends up happening, and we've definitely talked about this on the show before, you've got these accounts run by leftists, and they direct people to take action.
01:09:12.000So, let's say, you know, you are seen in this video on an airplane not wearing a mask.
01:09:17.000All of a sudden, these high-profile accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers send a message out to everybody, send this email to American Airlines.
01:09:25.000AA gets inundated with 50,000 emails saying, ban this man from the flight.
01:09:33.000Because a combination of not being hardcore activists, many new Trump supporters not being in the political world, and they're also individualists.
01:09:45.000What a wonderful segue into Walkway's Rescue America rally.
01:09:50.000No, no, but honestly, though, you're absolutely right about that, which is part of the reason why we are doing these rallies right now, because a major adjustment that I had to make when I did leave the left and come over to the right.
01:10:45.000I think going out into the streets and standing up for themselves.
01:10:48.000And what conservatives tell me all the time, and I'm really making it a huge part of my messaging, particularly this year, to rally against, is they say, well, we don't really march, we don't really demonstrate, we don't really rally, but we vote.
01:11:13.000Every aspect of, you know, and you're losing your voice.
01:11:17.000You've pretty much lost your voice, but every single day it's getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
01:11:22.000And what I've been telling people, and the reason why I think that we're having a good amount of success right now with these rallies that we're doing in different cities all around the country, I say, for those of you who don't understand the point of going to a march or going to a rally or demonstrating, think back less than three months ago.
01:11:40.000If somebody had told you, I'm going to run for office, am I banging?
01:12:10.000Three months later, we quite literally have the president, the presidential candidate, and any number of Democrat candidates around the country running on a platform of defunding the police.
01:12:24.000Let's absolutely clarify this, because they play dirty, dirty games.
01:12:28.000Joe Biden was asked specifically, would you be in favor of reallocating funding from police, you know, to outside groups or whatever, and Joe said, yes, absolutely.
01:12:40.000This is a game they play where they're for both at the same time, so they can claim it's not true what you just said, but he was asked the direct question.
01:12:49.000Then they'll say, defund means literally get rid of the police.
01:12:52.000Of course Joe Biden doesn't want that.
01:12:55.000Then the Brookings Institute says, defund just means reallocating some funds from the police to other programs, quite literally what he was asked.
01:13:30.000I'm like, wait, how are you gonna support all these people calling for rewriting our history with the 1619 Project?
01:13:36.000They're tearing down statues of George Washington, Jefferson, Hans Christian Haag, these heroes of the Civil War, Ulysses S. Grant, and then you're like, oh, but they should be allowed to do it, they're peaceful protesters.
01:13:45.000Now let's say the Pledge of Allegiance.
01:13:48.000What's the duplicitous but to the most absurd degree possible?
01:13:53.000Yes, and this is, I made a little note earlier when we were talking because this is another observation that has become crystal clear to me in the last year or two, being on the other side, having this new vantage point, is that Democrats, if you'll notice, are allowed to evolve.
01:14:11.000You can show footage of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden saying that they're against gay marriage, gay people shouldn't be allowed to... And now, when it trended past 50% of social acceptance, now they've evolved.
01:14:24.000But Republicans are not allowed to evolve.
01:14:27.000If a Republican ever did anything 20, 30 years ago, whatever, then that's the way it is and it's never going to change.
01:14:35.000Just very quickly, what I don't understand is, If you are a gay person, or if you're, you know, I'm just saying that as a gay person, wouldn't you want the Republican Party to evolve?
01:14:45.000If you're so scared of homophobia and you're so scared of the Republican Party's hatred, you should want them to evolve, but they won't let them evolve.
01:14:54.000I mean, Republicans say all the time, we don't care about this stuff.
01:15:05.000So there's this really funny episode where... It's like one of the early episodes where Stan finds out that... I forgot the name of his neighbors.
01:15:51.000Absolutely in order to make the political party change you want to be involved
01:15:55.000I think it's actually a good argument for many liberals to actually become officially Republicans because you will
01:16:00.000make the Republican Party more Liberal in the true sense right sense. Yeah, and I don't
01:16:06.000think see and and that was part of I guess my point Too is that Democrats it seems their platform is based off
01:16:12.000of whatever is trending at that moment Even if it's 100% contradictory to whatever they believed
01:16:18.000last year or three months ago or whatever Whereas, I think the reason why, you know, Republicans have kind of a PR problem is because they really, they evolve on the things that I think do matter, like, you
01:16:35.000Like, society at large evolved on racism.
01:16:37.000Society at large evolved on homophobia and things like that.
01:16:41.000But the core values that Republicans have don't change.
01:16:45.000You know, they don't... They're about the Constitution.
01:16:48.000They're about the sovereignty of our nation.
01:16:50.000And, you know, I don't even think that that many, especially under Trump, I don't think that that many conservatives are about pushing their religious beliefs or... Oh, that's changed.
01:17:04.000Yeah, I was actually afraid for a long time to criticize religion when I was speaking to Republican groups because, you know, I grew up a Catholic and went to Catholic school my whole life.
01:17:17.000So religion was very much a part of, you know, the doctrine with which I grew up and what I learned.
01:17:24.000And that's actually what taught me to be very much against religion, which I still am.
01:17:50.000Getting people fired from their jobs, demanding they bow, putting... Now, and you can see the signs when they send emails with pronouns and stuff.
01:17:57.000I understand you want to respect, but that is a sign that you were a part of this cult.
01:18:01.000And it's growing beyond just what a cult is.
01:18:02.000I mean, I guess it's not a cult because there's no, you know, dear leader.
01:18:10.000It's a cultish, religious... I mean, when I was... I mean, we're already living in the Twilight Zone enough with the masks and then every store that you walk into.
01:18:23.000You know, it's like they're making these announcements constantly and you're just like, my God, Twilight Zone, Twilight Zone.
01:18:27.000But when I was, I don't watch sports, I couldn't care less, but I was in a restaurant, I was in a restaurant waiting for my table and they had a basketball game on and I saw Black Lives Matter painted on the basketball court.
01:18:38.000And I was like, this is literally like a Twilight Zone.
01:18:43.000Like we're living in a really scary and it's every, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter.
01:18:48.000And pretty soon, like everything is, you know, Brought to you by Black Lives Matter.
01:18:52.000I mean, yeah, there was a, I can't remember who tweeted this, they said their kid turned on their Xbox and a message popped up saying, do you support, like, you must support Black Lives Matter, like, here's a note about what it means, like, press X to accept.
01:20:17.000Well, you know, and we're living in this bizarre time where on a daily basis, We're seeing violence like I never dreamed I would ever see taking place in the streets of this country.
01:20:58.000Because literally we still have to look at those images from like 2016 of those like 12 guys with torches and they're like, oh, the violence of the right.
01:21:07.000I'm like, I can't even open my Twitter for five seconds without watching somebody being, having the hell beaten out of them or somebody's, you know, and they act like it's not even happening.
01:21:17.000I love how they play this false narrative where it's like, you know, far-right extremists have been responsible for, you know, 436 deaths in the past 10 years and Antifa's responsible for zero.
01:21:28.000I love how they just arbitrarily pick groups and then act like this is the metric by which they're good or bad.
01:21:50.000Well, Greenpeace does nonviolent civil disobedience, but I can compare any group I want to any group and then choose a random metric to make something sound good.
01:22:11.000Because they're starting to figure out it's bad for them when they lie about the Very Fine People hoax, he played a semantic game.
01:22:17.000He said, I want you to remember all those people marching in Charlottesville with the torches and the look in their face, and I want you to remember what Donald Trump said.
01:22:25.000They were very fine people on both sides.
01:23:22.000Why is it that when a handful of legitimate, you know, white supremacists, whatever, go out into public and do something which, again, is incredibly rare?
01:23:32.000We rarely hear about this actually happening.
01:23:47.000Something like, it was like, you know, 20 million Americans hold alt-right views or some ridiculous, it's like...
01:23:54.000Dude, I think it was Ricky Gervais, I'm not sure who said, it's okay to have things in common with really bad people, just not the really bad things.
01:24:01.000He's like, he said something really funny, like, I enjoy, uh, he says, he said, I'm an atheist, and I, actually, no, I don't know if that's true, but he said something like, I enjoy vanilla ice cream and petting my dog, just like Hitler.
01:24:55.000So, I've looked over the numbers from the ADL.
01:24:58.000If you want to be kind to that number and expand it to include peripheral white supremacy groups, the total number, I think, is like 12,000.
01:25:06.00012,000 people in a country of hundreds of millions.
01:25:08.000Now, to be fair, I don't think Antifa is particularly large either.
01:25:13.000I'd say their numbers are probably comparable.
01:25:16.000However, is the media defending and protecting Antifa when they go out and they beat people?
01:25:22.000And is Black Lives Matter, a major national organization with a top-down structure that receives massive donations through ActBlue, And that has people marching through streets for 85 days in Portland screaming Black Lives Matter, smashing things, and when looters romp through Chicago, you know, a week or two ago, smashing up stores, shooting into windows, trying to rob Gucci, and then Black Lives Matter literally came out the next day saying, looting is reparations, and we want these people freed.
01:25:48.000There's a big difference between what Black Lives Matter has been doing, with 30 dead throughout the riots, and the white supremacist groups that are fractured, that aren't really, you know, organizing anything substantial, You see, here's what I try to explain to people.
01:26:01.000The far-right, or whatever that's supposed to mean, I don't think it means anything, it's just what the media says, because if you go to the ADL's website, they give you like four definitions of far-right.
01:26:09.000Anti-government, white supremacist, that doesn't make sense.
01:26:12.000But whatever these extremists are, they're few and far between, they're extremely unwell, they're violent, and they commit extreme acts that capture the news cycle for a week plus.
01:26:24.000Antifa goes out and does low-tier terror, where they beat people and shake them down, threaten them, smash windows.
01:26:30.000Look, if you went outside and some dude in a hoodie punched you in the face, it's not going to make CNN.
01:26:35.000But because they do this every day, dozens of times throughout the country, it's extreme pressure put on regular people and businesses.
01:26:44.000They know it exists, but the media never covers it because it never crosses the line.
01:26:48.000Recently, there was a dude in Portland, you may have seen the video, he kicked that guy in the face.
01:28:26.000And what you just said, it actually, you know, we may, maybe our culture will get pushed into this, almost like television commercials from the 1950s.
01:28:33.000When it really was like that before, like, you know, buy cigarettes, they're delicious and they're good for your health.
01:28:40.000You know, I mean, it just tells you what the product is.
01:29:39.000I think there's a lot of circumstances where it's actually get broke, try woke.
01:29:43.000Where these companies are failing because they're obsolete or because their marketing strategy was bad and they're like, let's try wokeness.
01:29:52.000Celebrities on the brink of irrelevance are now, you know, out with the Black Lives Matter signs and taking their selfies, taking their selfies for Instagram at the marches and stuff.
01:30:02.000And it's also, but there's also kind of like the sad kind of element of it where, you know, I've been talking about this a lot, too.
01:30:08.000A lot of these people, when you're walking down the street, you feel like this Black Lives Matter movement is so popular and well accepted.
01:30:14.000It's a sign here, a sign here, a sign here.
01:30:16.000But the sign has really become a virtue signal, I think, saying, please don't smash my windows.
01:30:20.000You know, and so I think that there are a lot less people who support the cause than we think, but they're just afraid of getting looted.
01:30:41.000In Berkeley there are a lot of stores that do, but there I went to a bar and they told me straight up the anti-Trump poster they had was just so that no one smashed their windows.
01:30:51.000And we were having a candid conversation.
01:30:52.000So I think, sure, you're in Berkeley down the street, you know, by the university, you're going to find a bunch of businesses that do believe it.
01:31:00.000Some of these bookstores are like straight-up anarchist bookstores, but there are a lot of businesses that you're like, it's run by, you know, Chinese immigrants that don't engage in American politics.
01:31:10.000And I'm like, I'm not sure they care all that much.
01:31:21.000I don't know why this popped into my mind, but when I was doing a rally in Michigan, I think, a big group of Black Lives Matter protesters came, and they were about 50% white, which is actually a pretty low ratio.
01:31:38.000But there were several black people in my group, And so this black man went over to one of these white guys holding his Black Lives Matter sign, and the white guy's shouting at him, you know, because he's got a Trump hat on, you know, he's got like his MAGA gear, and the white guy's like, what are you doing, bruh?
01:32:34.000Why are we taking our cues from these people?
01:32:36.000It's yeah, the whole I haven't read the book, but I've read a lot.
01:32:40.000We have a mutual friend Carlin and she kind of broke broke the book down in chapters on Twitter was posting them and it's there's so many anecdotes in that book where I was kind of shocked at the things that the woman says and reveals, you know, just like when I walk into a room and I see black people I become very uncomfortable.
01:33:13.000Look, I grew up second generation mixed race, friends of all different races, and I didn't experience any of this until I went to Occupy Wall Street.
01:33:38.000You know, I'm actually, I would say, on the opposite end of the spectrum.
01:33:42.000I love any opportunity when I'm, like, the only white person in the room.
01:33:47.000Especially if I'm giving an address or something like that.
01:33:48.000It's one of my favorite things in the world when I'm addressing an audience and it's a racial minority majority or, you know, something like that.
01:33:56.000Because for me, it's a challenge That I want to end that night knowing that I thoroughly won over and charmed everyone in that room based off of what I had to.
01:34:04.000Like, there's nothing scary about it for me.
01:34:08.000Like, I love it because I'm like, by the time I'm done, I am going to be the most popular white boy in the whole, they are going to love me.
01:34:15.000Um, so yeah, it doesn't even occur to me to be like, Oh my God, there's black people in the room.
01:34:34.000So the gag is kind of like, it's like, oh, we got another one, Reset the Clock, you know, like days since we've had a male feminist exposed.
01:34:41.000And what some things, somebody wrote this was really fascinating.
01:34:43.000They said the reason why feminists are so, you know, like, you know, feminist is because the reason why they think all men are bad is because they're surrounded by male feminists.
01:34:58.000But when you have this very small group of people that have these extremist ideologies, granted they're gaining a lot of traction in mainstream stuff, when they're only surrounded by abusive men who are pretending to care about their cause to try and sleep with them, they're gonna say, all men are bad because the only men they can see are bad.
01:35:14.000Well, I think that's a reinforcement, but don't you think, my opinion is that everybody has problems.
01:35:21.000We all have struggles, but only certain of us get told that those problems and struggles are because of the color of our skin, our sexual orientation, or our gender.
01:35:29.000So we all worry sometimes about how we're going to pay our bills, or how am I going to get a job, or am I good looking enough, am I whatever enough, whatever.
01:35:41.000But if people are telling you, well, The reason why you feel like you're not good-looking enough is because you're black.
01:35:48.000Or the reason why you don't have enough money is because you're black.
01:35:50.000Or the reason why you're worried about this is because you're gay.
01:35:53.000It's the same problems that we all have, but people are being told it's different because of them.
01:35:59.000They don't want you to solve your problems.
01:36:42.000No, I mean, what forms do you think it exists in, and how relevant are the forms?
01:36:46.000So I think what the left doesn't understand is when you take someone who's not very smart, and I mean this not to be disrespectful, they can't analyze root causes, they can only see the surface.
01:36:58.000So they have to wonder why it is that, say, a white person tends to have certain privileges.
01:37:04.000And so they say, ah, it must be because he looks that way, right?
01:37:27.000They did a study and found that they showed a bunch of pictures to people and asked them to write the most attractive, and one of them was their own face that was detexturized a little bit.
01:37:38.000They view themselves as more attractive, the more familiar it is to them.
01:37:43.000And that's just, you know, I think it was Brett Weinstein who talks about this says, that's why we must strive to make sure we overcome our inherent biases and things like this.
01:37:51.000So I do believe there's privileges, but I believe the better way to put it is majority privilege.
01:37:55.000I've been a bunch of countries where you would not have privilege.
01:38:05.000So I am par-Korean, and this is one of the reasons why I absolutely detest the intersectional left, because if you're mixed, or if you're Asian, you're Schrodinger's person of color, whatever, they don't know how to deal with you.
01:38:19.000But South Korea, Korea in general, they're very racist.
01:38:57.000So, look, there's a lot of issues that come up where I'm like, I'm center-left, especially on some social issues.
01:39:04.000But what I think the left is doing right now, the leftists, is they're not offering up real solutions to the problems, so they can control you, so they can take your resources, so you will be their foot soldier or their minion.
01:39:16.000If they actually told you the solution to many of these problems may have something to do with some social programs, but ultimately your responsibility.
01:39:31.000If I said, I am going to start a program where we teach people how to fish, that's a social program, but you're letting people go.
01:39:39.000What they do is they say, we're going to start a program where we have people fish, and then we make the people come in here and do what we want, and we'll maybe give them one.
01:39:49.000So for me, I think, it's probably a really good way to explain how I feel like I'm center-left.
01:39:54.000I think if the government was like, we're gonna teach you how to fish, and then you're on your own, and you can do this on your own, that's a social program that makes sense.
01:40:42.000Oh, they've been expendable for all throughout history and they're you know young men have very little societal value with no skills No reproductive value and young women have tremendous value to society because they're attractive and they can you know have kids and stuff You can argue those things are offensive and wrong.
01:40:56.000That's fine The point is you're gonna have an argument all day night about who is more privileged and you'll never win I think ultimately you're gonna be Delta handicards and And some people might get a really crappy hand, but I truly believe you can figure it out.
01:41:42.000You can't solve your problems because you can never change the color of your skin.
01:41:45.000Therefore, join my group and enact my laws.
01:41:49.000It's a Trojan horse so they can get things like socialism and, you know, just Well, you know, unemployment is an insurance that we pay into as well.
01:41:58.000I mean, you know, and I think that it does absolutely save and help a lot of people for, and it's temporary, you know, it goes as long as it goes.
01:42:08.000But it's, yeah, I mean, when you're talking about taking able-bodied, healthy, capable people and putting
01:42:14.000them on a cycle of welfare and food stamps and all of these different things and then
01:42:19.000basically, you know, it becomes, not an addiction, but I mean it just becomes a way of life,
01:43:22.000But he's been on social programs for years and years.
01:43:27.000And it's so interesting because the way that they keep him on it, he's required to go to certain doctor's appointments on a regular basis to continue to validate his condition, which keeps him on.
01:43:39.000So, I mean, it's a regular cycle that he has to go see a certain number of doctors every week, which, of course, they pay for.
01:44:57.000And be willing to accept that you're going to fail, probably many times along the way.
01:45:03.000I failed many, many, many times in my life, many times before I ended up in this position that I'm in now.
01:45:10.000And I certainly had never created a movement against the Democratic Party before.
01:45:15.000I didn't have a lot of experience, you know, but I, after failing at many different things in my life, and I had no idea that WalkAway was going to become what, I mean, it started as a Facebook group.
01:45:24.000But when it really resonated with people and became really successful, I thought, you know, there's something much larger here than just a testimonial campaign on Facebook.
01:45:33.000I think that this is something that's needed by the public at large.
01:45:36.000And so we created an organization, Walkway Foundation, and started doing events.
01:45:41.000And some of the things we do hit, some of them don't hit.
01:45:47.000I think it's funny, when I first saw your viral video for WalkAway, there were a lot of people, when it got really big, they were saying that it was existing Trump supporters pretending they left the Democratic Party, it was AstroTurfed and stuff like that.
01:46:00.000Russian bots, and I was just like, but I actually know a lot of people, like a ton of people, like Jack Murphy, he wrote a book, Democrats at a Portable, 9 million people voted for Obama, voted for Trump.
01:46:11.000I don't know if you heard about this, but the DNC featured a man who claimed he was a lifelong Republican who is now, you know, who's now going to vote Democrat.
01:46:18.000And they tracked down his information.
01:46:55.000I mean, we actually have like young, hip black people, gay people, white people, like, you know, and then they just put up all everything that they claim that we are.
01:47:04.000They're like, like, look at all the people leaving the Republican Party.
01:47:38.000It's a ridiculous notion that we must, or that we possibly could, prevent all offense.
01:47:43.000It's bad enough that it exists in general, but when it happens even within the community itself... Like, I found it so disturbing when RuPaul announced that she was no longer going to use the term she-male on her show because there was a segment... I don't know if you watch Drag Race.
01:48:52.000But we filed a lawsuit against the venue in New York City for canceling us just days before the event, because not only did they cancel us, but they canceled us because of leftist, you know, activists coming in and harassing the venue.
01:49:05.000But the leftists actually created a dossier on.
01:49:08.000So my panel was me, Mikey Harlow and Blair White.
01:49:12.000And they went through all of our social media and found these, you know, the evidence that we're white supremacists and anti-gay and all of this stuff, which for anybody in your audience who cares, all of our LGBT, all walkaway town halls are available for people to watch for free on YouTube.
01:49:28.000So you can see the content that actually exists that they were trying to prevent from us.
01:49:35.000It's very positive, very uplifting in many ways.
01:49:38.000But anyway, we filed a lawsuit against the LGBT Center of New York City, who are the ones who canceled us.
01:49:43.000And just a couple of weeks ago, the judge in New York City threw out the case.
01:49:49.000And when she threw out the case, what she cited was...
01:49:52.000That upon researching me and Blair and Mikey, whatever, she agreed that we were, and this is a quote-unquote, engaging in anti-queer slurs and therefore we were dangerous to our community and basically that we had it coming.
01:50:51.000I don't know how that works with the government, but when it comes to, I believe, general public accommodation in New York City, it's a $250,000 fine for a willful violation.
01:50:58.000Well, perhaps I'll look into that angle of the case.
01:51:01.000I'm very curious to know what this judge would have to say about black people using the n-word.
01:51:07.000And you know, if she would throw a case out if a black person used the n-word at a public event.
01:51:16.000No, but if her point is that we are engaging in anti-queer slurs to the queer community which we are a part of, Um, I would consider the n-word to be a slur, and I hear a lot of black people using it, so I wonder if their cases would be thrown out of court if that ever happened.
01:51:30.000No, we weren't, but... I think you might actually have a... She used a slur.
01:52:16.000So, yeah, anyway, when it comes to New York, I think, I've looked at all, I've looked over these laws before.
01:52:22.000I've actually done a couple of segments on them, and I've talked to some lawyers.
01:52:25.000Sounds like they violated your human rights by using that word against you and then arguing that you were in violation of it.
01:52:31.000Imagine if that judge said to Candace Owens, you're engaging in anti-N-word behavior.
01:52:38.000That would be a major controversy and everything.
01:52:45.000Yeah yeah yeah it definitely would be um and you know the thing is too to me the biggest you know tragedy of the whole thing is that so many as these you know when they do this they don't just you know cancel your event it becomes a story and then those stories are used to cancel you in the future right when you try to do another event in another city and they google you and then they're like oh you have a history of going around the country with your anti-queer Your anti-queer show!
01:53:17.000And the truth is that I really would love for certainly every LGBT person, but even people who aren't, watch what we've done with WalkAway.
01:53:27.000We've done black town halls, we've done Hispanic town halls, we've done LGBT town halls.
01:53:31.000Like I said, you can watch them on YouTube.
01:53:33.000But this is about providing more freedom, more opportunity, more choice to people.
01:53:39.000If you don't want to walk away from the left, don't!
01:53:44.000But just be willing to listen to the reasons why I think that we're being manipulated, we're being used, we're being targeted, we're being lied to, we're being brainwashed in many respects.
01:53:54.000And if you agree with me, then just consider maybe making some different choices in your life.
01:54:02.000But I mean, why are we preventing people from hearing words?
01:54:27.000And it kind of goes back to the point I was making earlier about, you know, why can't Republicans evolve if Democrats are allowed to evolve?
01:54:36.000The people on the left would say that, well, we're the ones who believe in, you know, freedom and opportunity and all this stuff, and we're the ones protecting minority communities.
01:54:43.000Well, if you really believe in freedom and opportunity, then you have to be willing to let these minority communities go.
01:54:52.000You can't grab them and imprison them.
01:54:53.000If you believe that they have choice and freedom, you have to be willing to let them go to the Republican Party or anywhere else that they want to go.
01:55:02.000But you know, it's ultimately about the individuals in those communities.
01:55:06.000There's a lot of polls that have come out showing Trump having record approval from the black community, and I think that's terrifying the Democrats.
01:55:13.000Because you had Emerson, which is considered to be one of the most credible polls, saying that Trump's approval was 30%.
01:55:19.000Not many polls are saying it's like 8 or 12, but Trump had like 3 or 4 polls showing him at around 30 or so percent.
01:55:25.000Rasmussen, they've consistently shown over the past several months that Trump's approval rating from likely voters in the black community is like 30 to 40 percent.
01:55:40.000So, I'm not, I don't hang my hat on any polls, you know, whatsoever.
01:55:46.000But particularly, I mean, because that's, That really affects, I think, I mean, it speaks to my effectiveness to walk away and what we're doing.
01:55:54.000I hope to God we see some significant movement from minorities, and I really believe that we will.
01:55:59.000I mean, the only crazy thing would be, you know, if all of these minorities who've created walkaway stories Don't vote or if they do something stupid and change their mind or something.
01:56:10.000But I mean, if walk away is a true indicator of what is going to happen in 2020, then I think that we're going to see a significant dent and it's going to be glorious.
01:58:28.000So if you guys haven't already, if you want to get some questions in, we obviously can't get to everybody, but I'll try to read as many as I can.
01:59:03.000So I desperately needed to keep plugging away at, you know, promoting the event and doing fundraising every day on a daily basis.
01:59:10.000And so one month before the event in September of 2018, and I'll just say too, I'm not, I don't discriminate against like who I'll do interviews with or anything like that.
01:59:20.000I'm not one of these conservatives that's like, oh, I'm afraid of, you know, I won't go on InfoWars.
02:00:10.000They sent me a message and they said, you engaged in activity that contradicts our rules and regulations, whatever.
02:00:16.000And then they had the little screenshot of the word InfoWars.
02:00:20.000And now at the time, I was very, you know, I had probably, I don't know, 40, 50,000 Twitter followers, which was, you know, kind of significant.
02:00:29.000And people knew who I was because I was doing Fox News a lot.
02:00:32.000I don't think that I really grasped at that time the, for lack of a better word, the power that comes with having that kind of platform.
02:00:41.000And so I went on Twitter literally just to bitch about it.
02:00:44.000And I was just like, I just got banned on Facebook.
02:00:48.000And so after it became a story, within like 24 hours, Facebook had to walk it back and say it was an algorithmic mistake that they didn't mean to cancel me.
02:00:58.000But yes, I got my account back very quickly, but it taught me, I felt really bad for a lot of people who go through that who don't have a platform and can't get those things reversed.
02:01:10.000He says, Kimberly Klesik, black Republican, one of many dozens, mind you, who are running, won their primaries, has just shy of 10 million views on Twitter alone.
02:02:53.000They don't want to admit it, but I've talked about this.
02:02:56.000I have a friend that I met at a Black Lives Matter rally who's been posting nothing but pro-Trump stuff in the past year.
02:03:02.000I have friends from Chicago I've known my whole life who all of a sudden, Democrat their whole life, are now messaging me saying they're going to vote Republican straight down the ticket.
02:03:45.000So, I have friends in Chicago, and I was having conversations with people who are like, you know, I support Black Lives Matter and all that stuff, and then roving bands went around smashing everything, shooting guns downtown, they raised the bridges, and the next day Black Lives Matter said, we support them.
02:04:01.000What they did was reparations, so too bad.
02:04:03.000And now all of a sudden they're like, Yeah.
02:04:08.000My walkaway campaign group on Facebook grew by 40% between George Floyd's death, end of May, And late July, we had like hundreds of thousands that came on board.
02:04:44.000For those of us who see clearly what's going on, the oppression that I feel, because I'm a New Yorker, and I see, when you paint Black Lives Matter down Fifth Avenue in giant letters, and these are the same people that just destroyed Soho, I mean destroyed Soho, which is probably one of the biggest shopping meccas of all the United States, maybe the world.
02:05:10.000Um, it makes you feel like you're living under authoritarian rule.
02:06:38.000Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciated you for covering it and kind of covering it accurately, because, you know, that's something that frustrates me even about the media on the right, is that, you know, here we did this incredible event in Beverly Hills, California, totally unusual, right?
02:06:51.000We marched through West Hollywood, which is a super gay neighborhood, into Beverly Hills, and it's people, it's walk away, it's walk away from the radical left, right?
02:06:58.000All the headlines were, Pro-Trump rally in Beverly Hills.
02:07:18.000So JMaxx says, I voted against Prop 8 in California back in the day, and I've been pretty socially liberal, much to my conservative parents' disappointment.
02:07:27.000It's crazy to me that I get lumped in with the right now for fairly libertarian positions.
02:08:51.000that respiratory illnesses are spread through saliva and other fluids ejected
02:08:54.000from the nose and mouth also smash that like button I don't think that's what
02:08:58.000you said but that's what he heard yeah no I actually do think that that happens
02:09:06.000I'm I don't think anybody's disputing how illnesses spread I think we're disputing things like the effectiveness of wearing a thin piece of cloth on your face that many doctors agree doesn't, you know, the virus can travel through.
02:09:21.000I also, but the biggest argument that I make is that it's just not a very dangerous virus for the vast majority of people.
02:09:31.000Obviously for the people who died, tragically, it was a very serious virus.
02:09:36.000But that is a very, very, very tiny percentage of the population.
02:09:39.000And the vast majority of people who get it are gonna be just fine.
02:12:04.000Look, I already said earlier this year, that's it for me.
02:12:06.000I'm not donating to Democrats ever again.
02:12:08.000I donated to a bunch of them because I was thinking, like I mentioned earlier, you get some of these better Democrats in and they'll try and stop the party's drift, but instead they just joined in.
02:12:19.000So then I made a couple donations to some Republicans because they were fighting back directly against this.
02:12:24.000You know, I thought, look, you've got WalkAway, you've got conservatives pushing back on the left, but there's got to be people on the left willing to support Democrats who are going to say no and provide more reasonable answers.
02:13:11.000Dr. Rick says, both of you guys are rock stars in my book.
02:13:14.000Your courage to uphold free speech and what you believe is true is encouraging me to do the same when it's clearly quite dangerous in my medical academic setting.
02:13:49.000Yeah, I think the most important thing, and I think what you hit the nail on the head with the hammer with Walk Away, because you created something that people could sort of form around.
02:13:58.000So when you feel like you're alone, and you feel like what you're thinking is dangerous, you can look, and there's the pole in the ground with the flag.
02:14:05.000Walk away, and there's people around it.
02:14:08.000100% I'll make this very quick because I know you're One of the main reasons why I created the group in the first place is because when I had my sort of transitional experience in 2017 I thought I was losing my mind because I literally Basically changed my belief about just about everything that I ever believed I was reversing my position I'll say and so I started like googling like am I going crazy?
02:14:30.000You know, because there is actually a lot of mental illness on one side of my family and I was like, uh,
02:15:47.000But my confidence really does come from the CNN poll, which finds Trump within one point of Biden in 15 battleground states with a margin of error of 4%.
02:17:04.000Your favorite sociologist says, have Brendan hit me up, almost a decade as a Marxist professor, plus 20 year activist, marched with my hand on Jesse Jackson's shoulder in 2000, now a Trump voter.
02:17:51.000You had to, uh, it was a, in order to vote, you had to serve for two years, whether it's like, not necessarily military, but the idea of the story was only people who are running for office and voting actually worked in and served the government and the public.
02:18:14.000You know, I've had a lot of thoughts about how we changed from only landowners voted, you know, and now to anybody can vote.
02:18:21.000It's interesting because one of the things people bring up is that the reason for having votes based on land ownership was to prevent people from coming and voting and then leaving.
02:18:29.000You'd come in and be like, I live here, I'm gonna vote that we should let, you know, pirates come and take everything, and then you leave.
02:18:36.000So you had to be someone who lived there, had land in the community.
02:18:45.000But I also think that a lot of the problems we face are stemming from population density, overcrowding in cities, and people need to move out, become pioneers, go explore, you know, build their own, and things like that.
02:18:56.000You know, this year's the centennial of women being allowed to vote.
02:19:23.000That's why I always say, give me the opportunity to give respect to a Democrat for something good they're doing, and I will take it as soon as I can.
02:19:31.000One of the things that always comes to mind is AOC and Elizabeth Warren calling out big tech surveillance and their monopolistic power.
02:19:37.000Although I don't agree with their solutions, I appreciate them calling out the problem.
02:19:41.000Because they play a game where no matter what Trump does, it's always wrong.
02:19:43.000And that can't be true for them, and it can't be true for anybody.
02:19:46.000But with that being said, we've gone a little bit over, I think we're about to wrap up, so make sure you follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast, and make sure you check out my main channel over at YouTube.com slash TimCast.
02:19:57.000It is a different channel, and you can help me break 1 million subs because I'm actually at like 980-something thousand.
02:20:02.000Hopefully I'll get a million before they ban me, so again, check it out, YouTube.com slash TimCast, and you want to give just another shout-out to all your stuff, your That would be amazing.
02:20:10.000Yeah, there's actually one thing I didn't tell everybody before I'd like to tell them now.
02:20:14.000So obviously we know this has been a really weird year.
02:20:16.000Everybody had to cancel a lot of stuff, cancel events, but the two biggest events that WalkAway is doing this entire year, we've put together now for one big weekend, which is going to happen the weekend of October 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in Washington, D.C.
02:20:29.000And so what these events are is on October 2nd, we're doing something, I told you we've done LGBT, Black, Hispanic town halls.
02:20:35.000We're doing our very first, what we're calling the Walkway American Women's Town Hall, which is going to be an event for, it's going to be actually really fun.
02:20:42.000We're calling it a town hall kind of tongue in cheek, but it's going to be at an outdoor venue called the Sylvan Theater in D.C.
02:20:57.000And then the next day, on October 3rd, is going to be the Unsilent Majority March on Washington.
02:21:03.000And we just want to get thousands of people from around the country, basically in a huge demonstration in DC on October 3rd, to show once again that the silent majority is going to become unsilent.
02:21:14.000We're not going to allow the radical left to take over our country.
02:21:17.000So you can be a part of this whole bit.
02:21:18.000We're calling it the Ultimate American Weekend.
02:21:23.000We are charging admission to the women's event, but I mean, we have tickets as low as $20, up to like $75, and obviously the March on Washington is free to attend, but please come.
02:21:32.000Go to walkwaycampaign.com, click on Ultimate American Weekend.
02:22:14.000And the reason why you guys haven't subscribed to my YouTube channel is because you didn't know that you're supposed to add an A to the end of my last name.
02:22:20.000So go to BrandonStrockGah on YouTube and please subscribe so I can stop being ashamed of my YouTube channel.