Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Capitol Police Chief RESIGNS Over Unrest, Trump SLAMS Criminals w- Richie McGinniss

00:00:00.000 So, we got some pretty sad breaking news.

00:00:30.000 A police officer has died of his injuries sustained during the storming of the Capitol.

00:00:36.000 And I don't know why anyone would want anything like this.

00:00:42.000 I mean...

00:00:43.000 I don't know.

00:00:44.000 It's just miserable.

00:00:45.000 We spend all year complaining about the violence from Antifa and the destruction and the vandals and the burning.

00:00:50.000 We talk about it doesn't work.

00:00:52.000 I show all the polls explaining how they lost all their public support.

00:00:55.000 Following the storming of the Capitol, Trump supporters are losing public support.

00:01:00.000 And now Trump himself has just come out issuing a statement condemning the violence, the criminals, saying that there will be a new administration and a peaceful transition.

00:01:12.000 So I don't know what to say to these Trump supporters that think what they did somehow helped them or whatever.

00:01:19.000 But I can tell you, you're left with two scenarios, I suppose.

00:01:23.000 With Donald Trump coming out and saying that it was essentially wrong, and he denounces this, and it was un-American.

00:01:28.000 You either have a people defying, claiming to support Trump, but actually defying what he asked for when he said, go home in peace.

00:01:37.000 And people said no and stayed and, you know, fought with cops or whatever.

00:01:41.000 That's really weird that you would support the president.

00:01:43.000 He would tell you like, hey, this is what you should do.

00:01:45.000 And people wouldn't listen.

00:01:47.000 or you have uh you know trump unwilling to you know all these people are claiming you know the people who are claiming it was good or whatever well trump said it was bad so i guess you support a guy who doesn't have the guts or whatever i think ultimately in the end trump condemning this is the right thing and it's very very simple no matter what you think This is what I say about Antifa and the Black Lives Matter riots.

00:02:09.000 It was satisfying to their emotions, and it did nothing for them.

00:02:12.000 In fact, it destroyed the support they had across this country.

00:02:16.000 Of course, they still enjoy corporate support, of course, all that stuff.

00:02:19.000 But from all of this, they ended up losing support, and now Trump is absolutely losing a lot of support he had.

00:02:28.000 I'm not going to pretend like all these Trump supporters are all of a sudden abandoning him or anything like that.

00:02:32.000 But you see it.

00:02:34.000 More worryingly than any of that, though, is the escalation that we're seeing from Democrats, media pundits screaming on TV, and CNN saw their highest ratings ever, just around 9 million.

00:02:49.000 Official numbers, I believe, are 8.2 million, so you could just say around 9 million.

00:02:53.000 You think CNN's going to stop now? 1.00

00:02:55.000 Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon going back and forth, insulting people, berating them and mocking them and talking about how stupid Trump supporters are, how stupid these flyover states are. 1.00

00:03:05.000 This sentiment is generating them massive ratings. 1.00

00:03:08.000 And so long as this hatred persists, the only thing I can see is escalation.

00:03:13.000 And so we're going to talk a lot about it.

00:03:15.000 And it's going to be really interesting because we actually have two journalists who are there on the ground.

00:03:18.000 You guys want to just introduce yourselves because you've both been here before.

00:03:22.000 I'm Richie McGinnis, the Chief Video Director for The Daily Caller at Richie McGinnis on Twitter and everywhere else.

00:03:31.000 And you were actually in the building?

00:03:33.000 I was in the building.

00:03:33.000 Credentialed?

00:03:35.000 I'm credentialed.

00:03:36.000 We are credentialed.

00:03:37.000 The Daily Caller is credentialed by the House Radio TV Gallery.

00:03:40.000 So I did have my credential, although it was taken from me during the melee.

00:03:44.000 Wow.

00:03:45.000 Yeah, I'm a field correspondent for The Daily Caller, Jorge Ventura.

00:03:49.000 You can find me at Ventura Report and Jorge Ventura TV.

00:03:52.000 And yeah, I got to arrive a little bit after and just kind of document the aftermath of it.

00:03:57.000 And it's, you know, still crazy.

00:03:59.000 I think we're all still trying to wrap our minds around it.

00:04:01.000 So apparently you guys got some crazy stories.

00:04:03.000 But interestingly, too, Jorge, you did a bunch of interviews with people about their businesses being shut down in California.

00:04:08.000 Yes, so essentially what happened was during November, during Thanksgiving week, I flew back home to California and it was just literally just like a family vacation and as soon as I landed back in California, I live in the Antelope Valley community in Palmdale, LA County put a ban to outdoor dining.

00:04:28.000 So as soon as I landed back home, you know, you just drive around my community.

00:04:33.000 You could just see all the family businesses, small businesses just going out.

00:04:38.000 It's just, you know, big.

00:04:40.000 You're just seeing like the real-life depression of folks losing their jobs.

00:04:43.000 Servers and a lot of my friends that I have, their parents own these restaurants and now their parents are thinking about filing for bankruptcy and basically losing their American dream.

00:04:53.000 I think what happens to reporters is, living in D.C., you do get stuck in a bubble.

00:04:58.000 You know, and I kind of did forget being in D.C.

00:05:01.000 and just covering the civil unrest of how bad the pandemic is just hitting regular working class, middle class Americans.

00:05:06.000 Well, so that's what's interesting.

00:05:07.000 I think it's cool to have you both, both you guys here, because I mean, first of all, you're both there on the ground.

00:05:11.000 Richie, you were inside, but Jorge, you've actually talked to people about what is the seed of a lot of this anger.

00:05:17.000 Not all of it.

00:05:18.000 I don't say most of it, but there's a lot of people who are really angry.

00:05:21.000 Yeah, and I think right now we're seeing a moment in American history where when you just push Americans to the corner, this is how they're going to react.

00:05:31.000 I got to see it in L.A.

00:05:33.000 County because L.A.

00:05:35.000 County puts a ban on outdoor dining and now when I went to go interview restaurant owners, It was depressing at first because they were like, hey, it's Thanksgiving week and I have to lay off all of my staff.

00:05:45.000 And at that time, they already knew.

00:05:46.000 They're like, hey, this band's going to go longer than three weeks.

00:05:48.000 So now I'm telling my folks, hey, you're not going to have a job during Christmas.

00:05:52.000 So you are going to have to see that.

00:05:53.000 But then you get the other half where owners are saying, you know what?

00:05:56.000 If you're going to put this band on, that's it.

00:05:58.000 I'm just going to defy and I'm going to stand up.

00:06:00.000 And all of a sudden, we're seeing this happen in America.

00:06:03.000 And a lot of folks that I interviewed too, Tim, they're saying, hey, this is not like a left or right issue.

00:06:08.000 This is just us wanting to earn a basic living, and we just feel like government is now really infringing.

00:06:13.000 And like I said, we're just seeing, I feel like, a moment in history where Americans are put in this corner.

00:06:17.000 And I mean, I'm not surprised about how they're reacting right now.

00:06:20.000 Right on.

00:06:21.000 Of course, we got Luke Rutkowski hanging out.

00:06:23.000 Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings.

00:06:24.000 This is Luke Rutkowski of WeAreChange.org.

00:06:26.000 A lot of crazy information to get into that.

00:06:30.000 I'm just going to just throw it at you because like we seriously there's so much information happening right now.

00:06:36.000 I'm like going crazy here.

00:06:40.000 They're not documents, but they're notes about just everything that's going on right now.

00:06:45.000 That is absolutely berserk.

00:06:46.000 It's crazy.

00:06:47.000 A lot of stuff needs to be broken down and yeah, let's do it.

00:06:51.000 The first thing we got to talk about for sure is Richie being in that butt Yeah, I'm here in the morning, pushing buttons, pushing these buttons.

00:06:58.000 Let me just jump to the first story and then we'll get into what happened on the ground

00:07:06.000 trying to understand how this happened.

00:07:07.000 This is from Kron 4.

00:07:09.000 US Capitol Police officer dies after violent protests bringing death toll to five.

00:07:15.000 They say US Capitol Police officer died after violent protests bringing death toll to five.

00:07:16.000 Capitol Police officer has died from injuries sustained during violent riots at the Capitol on Wednesday.

00:07:21.000 A source tells KRON's 4, Alexandra Limon, that the police officer was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher by a rioter and was taken off life support.

00:07:30.000 The police officer is now the fifth person to die as a result of the violent protests.

00:07:33.000 The other four who have died are identified as Roseanne Boyland.

00:07:37.000 Now my understanding is she fell and they believe she was trampled.

00:07:40.000 Kevin Greeson and Benjamin Phillips.

00:07:43.000 I'm not entirely sure which one, but one of them suffered a heart attack, one of them suffered a stroke.

00:07:47.000 And Ashley Babbitt, of course, she was the woman who had climbed up in the window and peeked through and the officer shot her, killing her.

00:07:54.000 Now, look, you know, apparently some, you know, a couple people had heart attack and one guy had a heart attack, one guy had a stroke.

00:08:02.000 They're trying to lump that in to make that seem like that's part of the actual riotous death count, and I think that might be a little disingenuous.

00:08:08.000 Although, I guess if you suffer a medical emergency because you're older and you're in the heat of the moment, blood flow and all that stuff, you're going crazy and your heart's pounding, I guess it makes sense.

00:08:17.000 But it wasn't like those people died because of external forces.

00:08:20.000 It was just their bodies giving out.

00:08:22.000 As for Ashley Babbitt, she got killed.

00:08:24.000 And what was she really doing but just climbing up and looking through a window?

00:08:28.000 I mean, come on.

00:08:29.000 It's not like I'm gonna sit here and say that these people should have been in the building.

00:08:32.000 Of course not.

00:08:33.000 But I'm just... I tell you, man, I have seen these circumstances.

00:08:36.000 A bunch of people run into the building.

00:08:38.000 You see people who don't know what's going on who walk up and they're just bumbling around, confused.

00:08:42.000 I've talked about it over and over again.

00:08:44.000 That what happens is someone runs up to a door and hits the glass.

00:08:46.000 Runs away.

00:08:47.000 Someone else runs up and sees the glass falling and knocks out some pieces.

00:08:50.000 Runs away.

00:08:51.000 It's all these little grains of sand that eventually the doors open and mindless people are just like walking up and seeing the door open and walking away like, wow, what's going on?

00:08:58.000 And then you end up with this woman.

00:09:00.000 Now, she's got social media videos, you know, Ashley. 0.80

00:09:02.000 She was very adamant, she was very angry, a staunch Trump supporter.

00:09:05.000 But this- this shouldn't have happened.

00:09:07.000 I mean, even if, you know, people were storming the Capitol, it's- it's- it's- it's- it's absurd, in my opinion.

00:09:13.000 Now, I gotta be honest, I get it.

00:09:14.000 You storm the Capitol, you got itchy trigger fingers from Capitol Security, and it's their job to barricade the doors and protect the people inside, and it's just completely tragic.

00:09:22.000 Now, I'll tell you what- I'm also mad about this cop losing his life.

00:09:27.000 Because this is a- look.

00:09:29.000 I say this about the left all the time.

00:09:30.000 They think the cops know what they're talking about.

00:09:32.000 You see a cop and they're like, he should know what I know.

00:09:36.000 And so they scream, traitor, whose side are you on?

00:09:38.000 And that cop doesn't necessarily know what you know.

00:09:40.000 Now, I think it's fair to say a lot of Trump supporters, a lot of conservatives probably assume the cops know a bit because they're cops and they deal with this stuff all year.

00:09:48.000 But I'm not going to pretend that, you know, when you see cops going around and destroying small businesses throughout the lockdown, just like blocking doors.

00:09:57.000 Yeah, that we see in New York and stuff violates the First Amendment when they're secretly filming, you know, Jewish schools. 0.97

00:10:03.000 That is creepy.

00:10:04.000 And it also violates the right to worship and assemble when they're shutting down churches.

00:10:08.000 These were cops who were providing basic security to our government, who were standing around saying, we want to make sure everybody inside can do their job.

00:10:15.000 Somebody bash this guy with a fire extinguisher.

00:10:18.000 Why, why, why kill the guy? 0.97

00:10:20.000 Why would you do that?

00:10:23.000 Ah man, it's just, it's infuriating.

00:10:25.000 Yep.

00:10:26.000 Um, you know, many news organizations and even some individuals are talking about thoughts and prayers for the traumatized Congress members.

00:10:33.000 People forget that people died here.

00:10:35.000 This is a very serious incident, specifically talking about that woman.

00:10:39.000 You know, there's a lot of videos.

00:10:41.000 We still don't know the full details.

00:10:42.000 We hope there's an investigation, but, but it doesn't look justified.

00:10:45.000 And right now we're getting the information.

00:10:47.000 that the chief of the U.S. Capitol Police is saying that the police officer involved in that fatal

00:10:52.000 shooting has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended

00:10:58.000 pending investigation. Another thing that really needs to be pointed out-

00:11:01.000 Scared cop with a gun man.

00:11:02.000 Yes, but then also he was behind the door- There's a lot of different elements that we could break down here.

00:11:08.000 But another important one is that there was police officers with like full-on long rifles tactical behind her.

00:11:16.000 Yeah, that was insane.

00:11:17.000 The police officer could have killed other police officers And and and and there was no threat to anyone's life and again.

00:11:24.000 I don't want to be jumping to conclusions because I do hope there's an investigation.

00:11:28.000 We do need to wait for cooler heads to prevail before making any kind of assumptions and judgments here.

00:11:34.000 But but just looking at that video footage, we should really prioritize the truth.

00:11:40.000 About that event, rather than, you know, in my opinion, you can't even compare the two.

00:11:45.000 The nonsense, the hysteria, the just hyperbolic bullcrap on mainstream media right now.

00:11:51.000 Oh, I mean, CNN's ratings are through the roof, so of course they're going after Trump hard.

00:11:55.000 But look, we got more news here pertaining to the police.

00:11:59.000 U.S.

00:11:59.000 Capitol Police Chief to resign after Wednesday's riots.

00:12:03.000 I mean, so there you go, that's the news.

00:12:05.000 Steven Sund is resigning amid criticism over an apparent lack of preparedness to deal with Wednesday's violent mob on Capitol Hill.

00:12:12.000 You know, I was on Twitter and I was about to tweet something like, why weren't the police ready for this?

00:12:17.000 And then I stopped and thought about what I had just said when I made a segment on YouTube and said, I don't think Trump supporters will do anything.

00:12:24.000 I think they're going to go, they're going to support Trump, they're going to rally, they're going to wave American flags, and they're going to march around.

00:12:29.000 I didn't think there'd be people who actually stormed the barricades.

00:12:32.000 Now, there's a couple of videos.

00:12:33.000 One of them shows the cops retreating as the group pushes through, but there's a bunch of different areas.

00:12:39.000 There's also an overhead view.

00:12:40.000 Of all the barricades and a massive crowd shaking the barricades, knocking them down, then rushing the stairs up to the building.

00:12:47.000 So I mean, look, that might've been my video.

00:12:49.000 Cause I was up in that, um, were you filming down?

00:12:51.000 I was up in the media tower.

00:12:52.000 So let's, let's, let's just set up for inauguration. 0.62

00:12:54.000 Let's, uh, let's do this.

00:12:56.000 Let me get your thoughts on, uh, on, on, you know, this officer and these people lost their life and then we'll go into your story about everything that went down.

00:13:02.000 So, you know, just like, I don't know, tell me what you think about what the violence and all that stuff.

00:13:05.000 So, I mean, first off, I arrived basically when they had already amassed around the Capitol and the police had set up their line.

00:13:13.000 So right when I arrived, the first thing I noticed was not only were the police using mace and bear spray, but they also were the protesters were using it as well on the police and the police were less adequately equipped than I was.

00:13:28.000 As a reporter, I had a tactical helmet and a gas mask and because I had seen the reports and I rushed down there and You turn the mic.

00:13:36.000 Yeah, sorry.

00:13:37.000 And so when I got there, I was extremely surprised to see how unprepared the police were.

00:13:42.000 Usually in these kind of situations, you know, where things are escalating, you see riot police pour out.

00:13:46.000 But the people who had formed the lines, they were all just basically, you know, your standard Capitol police.

00:13:51.000 Maybe they had a shield over their face if they were lucky, but no gas masks.

00:13:54.000 But these people who are in the front and, you know, spraying the cops and stuff, who were they?

00:14:00.000 Were they Trump supporters?

00:14:01.000 Because we're hearing a lot of people are trying to claim, especially conservatives, that it was actually Antifa.

00:14:05.000 But I've seen one video where there's a guy who does not look like a Trump supporter, but he's got a Trump sticker on his helmet, bashing a window, just like Antifa does.

00:14:13.000 And people are screaming, stop him.

00:14:14.000 And then a Trump supporter grabs him and puts him in a neck hold and pulls him down.

00:14:17.000 Yeah, that's also extremely underreported.

00:14:20.000 What you just brought up is an important facet that there were elements from videos that I've seen people saying stop this.

00:14:26.000 I'm curious from you guys because there's two kind of theories out there.

00:14:30.000 One is that there was inadequate security and that the police officers let them in.

00:14:34.000 Another one was that they were just not ready and they were overtaken.

00:14:38.000 There's these two theories.

00:14:39.000 What do you guys think from your personal opinions?

00:14:41.000 What actually happened yesterday?

00:14:42.000 It's kind of a mix of both.

00:14:45.000 They were for sure not prepared, undermanned.

00:14:49.000 I kind of went into it the same sentiment of Tim actually even reporting the ground was, I didn't think anything crazy was going to happen.

00:14:56.000 I actually was anticipating more Black Lives Matter activists maybe making their way down and then, you know, just because that's what we've seen in the past. 0.90

00:15:03.000 From what I saw, they were for sure unprepared, but to me, I didn't see anything that jumped out and said, you know, these were Antifa.

00:15:15.000 I know that's not popular to say right now.

00:15:17.000 You see that video where they're yelling, no Antifa, no, stop him, stop him.

00:15:20.000 But then again, when there were these claims over the summer that right-wingers were infiltrating Antifa and BLM protests, What, were they, you know, did Umbrella Man wear a MAGA hat when he did the crime?

00:15:31.000 No.

00:15:31.000 Yeah, it was Antifa.

00:15:32.000 So Antifa's not gonna dress up as Antifa if they're, you know, trying to... You know what I mean?

00:15:37.000 Yeah, but so some of these people... So it's impossible to tell, really.

00:15:39.000 Just because they have a red hat on doesn't really mean anything.

00:15:41.000 Well, no, these guys didn't.

00:15:42.000 They had, like, a brown helmet and then just, like, black, black gear.

00:15:46.000 With a Trump sticker on it and I'm like, oh I saw that dude geared up

00:15:49.000 Yeah, and then slap a sticker on his house make it seem like there's a Trump supporter

00:15:52.000 No No

00:15:53.000 this is interesting because we've seen the media during the summer trying to

00:15:56.000 Obfuscate some of the kind of left-wing protest as undercover right-wingers. There was government officials

00:16:02.000 mainstream media Paula, you know politicians saying no, these aren't you

00:16:07.000 know left-wing antifa These are right-wingers trying to incite us to make us look bad.

00:16:11.000 Now we're seeing a kind of similar kind of attempt here.

00:16:14.000 Do you think it's legitimate?

00:16:16.000 Because other people are also adding that there wasn't any kind of counter-protest when there usually is.

00:16:21.000 That's what people are saying.

00:16:22.000 I don't want to jump to conclusions.

00:16:23.000 I just want to kind of hear your opinions on this.

00:16:25.000 I think from, just from my perspective is, emotions are super high right now.

00:16:30.000 Even from a reporter perspective, like even right after election, if you just told the truth about the election, people are unfollowing you and canceling you if you don't tell them what they want to hear.

00:16:39.000 If you don't say, Trump's going to be in office after January 20th, you're done.

00:16:43.000 So I was already seeing that.

00:16:45.000 And then this, I think it just adds on top of it.

00:16:48.000 Like I said, I don't know what's going on, but it just seems like no one wants to take responsibility.

00:16:54.000 It seems like Antifa is just the easy scapegoat.

00:16:56.000 Hey Antifa, Antifa, look.

00:16:58.000 Even before everything broke down, when I was doing interviews, I was asking folks, do you think this is kind of a civil war that we're headed?

00:17:07.000 Because whether you agree with the Stop the Rally march in D.C.

00:17:11.000 That moment is historic, because we've never seen anything like that after a presidential election.

00:17:16.000 So we're already walking on, you know, uncharted waters.

00:17:20.000 So with this situation, to me, like I said, I was asking folks, do you think we're headed to a civil war?

00:17:25.000 Nine out of ten, they're saying this is a civil war.

00:17:28.000 To us, this is a revolution.

00:17:29.000 Not to mention, like, all the crowbars.

00:17:32.000 That implies premeditation.

00:17:33.000 What is a crowbar used for?

00:17:35.000 Like, what, for holding up a sign?

00:17:36.000 No, absolutely not.

00:17:38.000 For breaking doors open.

00:17:39.000 Correct.

00:17:39.000 People had crowbars?

00:17:41.000 Oh, I saw probably five or six crowbars.

00:17:43.000 A lot of them actually were just left by the doors where the glass had been shattered.

00:17:47.000 What?

00:17:47.000 Yeah.

00:17:48.000 So weird.

00:17:49.000 Because I got knocked down by one of the doors and I actually was looking for my phone and I found a crowbar.

00:17:54.000 That's so weird, man.

00:17:56.000 I don't know.

00:17:57.000 I mean, I just think everyone's emotional right now, you know, and I think, I don't know, it's just, it's just, we never- Breaking in, you know, I guess maybe in the 1700s, taking the state building may have granted you some kind of power.

00:18:09.000 I don't know how that works, I guess?

00:18:10.000 You're like, I'm in the building, it's mine now!

00:18:12.000 Uh, especially not today, you know?

00:18:14.000 They can issue a statement from wherever they want.

00:18:16.000 Any, any one of these politicians.

00:18:17.000 Going in the building didn't do anything, you know?

00:18:21.000 I mean, we've got videos of, I tweeted this out, the Women's March took over the Senate building and then they shut the whole building down.

00:18:29.000 And they weren't worried about the fact that there was like a thousand plus people screaming at the top of their lungs inside the building.

00:18:33.000 Oh, was that in Hart?

00:18:35.000 The Hart Senate office building?

00:18:36.000 Yeah, that big, like... The atrium.

00:18:38.000 Yeah, atrium, exactly.

00:18:39.000 That's Hart, yeah.

00:18:39.000 So, I understand it's a fairly different circumstance that, you know, storming through the barricades and fighting with cops and pepper spraying them and smashing windows and breaking in is very different.

00:18:47.000 Plus, it was during the electoral, you know, vote count.

00:18:50.000 So, you know, I just, I wonder what the goal is for either group.

00:18:54.000 Like, the Women's March didn't accomplish anything. 1.00

00:18:56.000 What did they accomplish really yesterday other than some people have lost their lives?

00:19:00.000 I mean, to me, just, yeah, you don't accomplish anything and it just seems like Trump just lost a whole bunch of support.

00:19:06.000 We've seen now the Senators kind of rescind their objections.

00:19:09.000 Not all of them, though.

00:19:10.000 And now, this also gives Big Tech the biggest excuse in the world, as we've already seen, to just censor Trump.

00:19:16.000 I mean, it just seems like After the election, Trump is going to disappear on social media.

00:19:21.000 I don't know.

00:19:21.000 He's definitely banned from Facebook now, according to Mark Zuckerberg's own personal post.

00:19:27.000 The New York Times yesterday had two articles talking about the importance of limiting speech, and we are seeing people left, right, and center just being taken down for the minuscule posts and even memes.

00:19:38.000 There's a meme of that guy who's wearing the kind of weird headgear and the face paint, and it says, Wow.

00:19:44.000 you know 2021 I thought it wasn't going to be crazy ...

00:19:47.000 Facebook is banning people's account for that post and ...

00:19:50.000 it's not even a political post it's not even taking side it's ...

00:19:54.000 a joke it's a meme it's people saying this year's pretty ...

00:19:58.000 crazy band I Facebook and they just released these vague ...

00:20:01.000 terms saying if you are supportive of this in any way ...

00:20:04.000 you you get cut Michelle Obama just released a statement ...

00:20:08.000 talking about how you know it's dangerous to have social ...

00:20:11.000 media and I really want to kind of talk about the dangers of ...

00:20:15.000 censorship especially when it comes to QAnon because when ...

00:20:19.000 we look at QAnon this was a movement that was essentially ...

00:20:22.000 censored but the conversation didn't end it was festered ...

00:20:26.000 That conversation could have been addressed, could have been handled in a way where people could actually talk about it in a rational, real way instead of just going off on this bizarreness.

00:20:37.000 There could be people pushing back.

00:20:39.000 Yes.

00:20:40.000 One of the problems with Parler, for instance, and I'm not here to rag on Parler in terms of what it is, I'm just saying one of the problems philosophically is that when all the Trump supporters leave Twitter because they ban Trump, They go to parlor where they no longer hear the arguments from the other side.

00:20:54.000 And the same is true for the left.

00:20:55.000 The problem is, for the longest time, Twitter has just been banning arguments from the right, so the left only hears their own refuse back at themselves, and Trump supporters leave and then start doing their own refuse back at themselves.

00:21:05.000 Not just Twitter, Facebook and YouTube also going after people who were debunking the QAnon stuff.

00:21:11.000 People who were saying, hey, let's take a legitimate look.

00:21:13.000 Let's look at the evidence.

00:21:14.000 Let's look at the accusations.

00:21:16.000 Let's actually look at this.

00:21:17.000 And they were debunking QAnon stuff.

00:21:19.000 Independent creators had their channels taken down because they were doing that.

00:21:23.000 YouTube did that?

00:21:23.000 Yes, YouTube did that.

00:21:26.000 Yeah, I had to go through all my old videos being like, okay, I can't even talk about this.

00:21:31.000 And I, and I removed some of them because YouTube was on a huge purge against QAnon and whether you were against it or for it.

00:21:37.000 And that is something that really pushed the conversation that made people on the fringe, even more fringe, even more extreme.

00:21:44.000 And they, and they were coming back and saying, well, if we're not legitimate, why is YouTube blocking us?

00:21:48.000 We must be against the system.

00:21:50.000 They say this over target.

00:21:52.000 Exactly.

00:21:52.000 We're over the target because we're getting the flack.

00:21:55.000 We're getting censored.

00:21:56.000 And this is why I'm against censoring speech.

00:21:59.000 And this is why this is an extremely dangerous time because a lot of people are using this situation to push for extreme censorship and the destruction of civil liberties.

00:22:08.000 They've censored the President of the United States.

00:22:12.000 I mean, look, you can complain.

00:22:14.000 I think the tweets he put out where he said, this is what happens when a great and glorious landslide is taken.

00:22:20.000 You know, but then he did say, go home in peace, never forget this day.

00:22:24.000 It was far from a perfect statement.

00:22:25.000 Trump could have done way better.

00:22:27.000 And so I think I can be somewhat critical.

00:22:29.000 It was kind of a tepid statement.

00:22:31.000 The left is of course freaking out about it.

00:22:32.000 It wasn't an overt act of support or anything like that, but it was pretty close to it.

00:22:37.000 But regardless of what you think about that, they removed him.

00:22:39.000 They took down the president.

00:22:41.000 That's crazy to me.

00:22:42.000 And they're probably going to take down the rest of his social media.

00:22:45.000 And they're probably going to make sure that he never has a voice in this kind of larger political discourse like he previously had before.

00:22:52.000 And this is a president where it's going to be set where the tech ruling elites, Mark Zuckerberg, is going to decide what you can and cannot hear.

00:23:00.000 Michael Tracy had a very interesting point about this that I think is worth talking about.

00:23:05.000 He said, quote, philosopher King Mark Zuckerberg should definitely get to unilaterally decide based on his

00:23:12.000 subjective political judgment, which definitely is not dictated by the fleeing passions of the day, whether the public is

00:23:20.000 allowed to hear from the elected president good system and he makes a good point there.

00:23:25.000 But I wanted to kind of bring it back to you guys here, because one of the talking points is that this was an insurrection.

00:23:32.000 These were terrorists.

00:23:33.000 They planned the coup d'etat.

00:23:34.000 We have John Bolton, the man who knows almost everything about a coup d'etat, because he orchestrated them in the third world, coming out and saying, this was definitely a coup d'etat.

00:23:43.000 From your experience, was this a professional coup d'etat attempt even?

00:23:48.000 Well, I mean, what I saw going into the Capitol were some people who were intent on breaking things, but mostly a lot of just kind of bewildered people who were kind of bumbling about and kind of taking in the novelty of it.

00:24:03.000 And when I arrived in the rotunda, you know, there were probably about 80 people in there and a lot of them were just milling around and taking selfies and, and it didn't seem like they were, you know, trying to run around and smash anything.

00:24:16.000 Um, I think really what, what happens in these kinds of situations is, is once the chaos starts, you know, once a couple of people break through that line, once a couple of people start pushing up on the cops, then it doesn't take much for other people to follow suit.

00:24:31.000 So let's just start from the beginning and let's hear your guys' story.

00:24:33.000 What happened?

00:24:35.000 We'll start off in the morning because you were there.

00:24:38.000 So I got there around 8 in the morning and as soon as I arrived at the Washington Monument it was just like a sea of people.

00:24:46.000 Flags everywhere.

00:24:46.000 How many do you think?

00:24:47.000 I mean from my perspective I think minimum Over half a million people.

00:24:52.000 I would say hundreds of thousands.

00:24:54.000 Yeah, we've heard that.

00:24:55.000 I was there for Obama's first inauguration, and second, and Trump's, and it was not quite the same numbers as any of those, but it was close.

00:25:03.000 Half a million.

00:25:04.000 Yeah.

00:25:04.000 It was a lot.

00:25:05.000 Let's not forget, you said half a million?

00:25:07.000 I mean, I think, I mean, it was... Because we've heard 200.

00:25:09.000 Because the Women's March, they said it was around there, and I looked at the photos, you know, the aerials and stuff.

00:25:15.000 I mean, it was hundreds of thousands.

00:25:16.000 Let's say that.

00:25:17.000 It's definitely more than tens of thousands, I think.

00:25:19.000 So what happens, what happens?

00:25:21.000 So my understanding is that Trump got on stage and said, you know, everybody stand at attention and said, your orders are as such, go and destroy.

00:25:28.000 And then he started passing out torches, right?

00:25:30.000 Like Trump, Trump directed all of them, right?

00:25:32.000 Like I said, I got there... I'm kidding, by the way.

00:25:35.000 Even getting there, like I said, I got in there at 8 in the morning.

00:25:38.000 It was a sea of people.

00:25:39.000 It went all the way back to like the Washington Monument.

00:25:42.000 Um when trump trump, I think took the stage around noon and he spoke for about 45 minutes now where I was at You couldn't even like hear him.

00:25:50.000 So like the people were just there to like kind of be there but even during his speech People already started going to the capitol building.

00:25:57.000 So, um, like from where I was at you couldn't hear anything But like I said, it seemed like a normal day, you know I was, I was watching Trump's speech and it was before anybody could have even left the ellipse.

00:26:08.000 People were already at the gates of the Capitol.

00:26:10.000 So like Trump and the people who were there.

00:26:12.000 So I knew people who were down there and I was asking them, I was like, are you anywhere near the Capitol?

00:26:15.000 They're like, no, I'm at the rally.

00:26:16.000 Trump's giving a speech.

00:26:18.000 I'm like, but there are people at the Capitol building right now.

00:26:21.000 What happened?

00:26:21.000 So anyway, continue, continue.

00:26:22.000 No, but basically, yeah, I was more in the back section, but even during Trump's speech, like I said, you already see people flowing in and heading toward the Capitol building.

00:26:30.000 So I did my interviews, and I thought it was going to be a regular day.

00:26:32.000 So for me, I was like, you know what?

00:26:34.000 This is my chance to go get some McDonald's and just recharge, be back at five for the action.

00:26:39.000 So when I went to go do that, that's when I got the news of basically the breach happening.

00:26:45.000 That's literally right as I was heading down.

00:26:47.000 So I actually had a friend who worked at the Capitol and they were up on the roof and they said they saw cops running around.

00:26:55.000 And I was like, that's weird.

00:26:57.000 I should probably get down there.

00:26:58.000 So I went down there and I brought all my gear.

00:27:02.000 I didn't suspect that things were gonna get bad, but I wanted to be ready if they did.

00:27:06.000 And the moment I arrived, I mean, there was you can see the clips.

00:27:09.000 My first clips on my thread on Twitter is basically art.

00:27:13.000 They were already clashing.

00:27:14.000 And I went up in that tower, that scaffolding.

00:27:17.000 And you can see that view as the lines are broken.

00:27:20.000 Basically, it's the same thing.

00:27:21.000 You know, two or three guys make it through.

00:27:22.000 They get clubbed.

00:27:24.000 They get knocked down. 0.97

00:27:25.000 Brutality.

00:27:26.000 Everyone gets even more mad and then a couple more breakthrough and then the

00:27:29.000 police are overwhelmed.

00:27:30.000 And if you see the numbers, I mean, it's not a matter.

00:27:35.000 I think that the instances that have been cited online of cops, you know, letting up or whatever.

00:27:40.000 I don't even think it was a matter of that.

00:27:42.000 Cause even where I was, where the cops were giving it their 1000, I mean, you can see on the video, these cops were trying their best to hold onto these barriers to hold the line, but they were getting pepper sprayed themselves.

00:27:52.000 And I saw a number of them injured and going back and getting medical attention.

00:27:56.000 So, um, I think.

00:27:58.000 They would have been overwhelmed no matter what, given the chaos that was unfolding.

00:28:02.000 So how did you, so what happens?

00:28:03.000 You're standing up on the scaffold, you see the line break, what happens next?

00:28:06.000 So I see the line break, and as the line is breaking, I have to give a shout out, it was my mom's birthday.

00:28:11.000 And I called her in the morning, I'm not that bad a son, but she called me as the line was breaking.

00:28:15.000 And like on an iPhone, if you ignore the call, it ends the video.

00:28:18.000 So then, if you look on Twitter, my video is broken up into three parts because my mom called me a second time and I declined again.

00:28:24.000 And she forgave me for ignoring her call on her birthday, so thank you mom, I appreciate that.

00:28:31.000 After that, by that point, the police were concentrating themselves kind of in that open area on the stairs, but people are already climbing up the scaffoldings and into an area where they could still access the cops.

00:28:44.000 So actually the scaffoldings made it more difficult for the cops to defend that area surrounding because basically that there were, you know, like little nooks and crannies where people could climb in, climb into those scaffoldings, climb up and get up on the bleachers.

00:28:57.000 So then what happens?

00:28:58.000 When did people get in?

00:29:01.000 Take us through how you ended up in there.

00:29:03.000 From up there I could see basically the flow of people going up the stairs.

00:29:07.000 A lot of them just stopped and decided to wave a Trump flag or wave whatever flag they had.

00:29:12.000 I caught video of one guy who got a fire extinguisher for somewhere and was spraying it down on the cops below him.

00:29:20.000 So when did they go inside?

00:29:21.000 So it was right around that time that the lines broke, and it took me about 10 minutes before I realized, wait, there are a ton of people going in there, and I have congressional press credentials, so I was like, I'm going in, I'm gonna see what's going on there.

00:29:33.000 That's how you were up there in the first place?

00:29:35.000 Yeah.

00:29:35.000 Mm-hmm.

00:29:36.000 Well, no, so I actually just, I had come down so quickly that... Oh, I see, I see.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, I wasn't up there in the first place.

00:29:42.000 Um, by the time I got in there, I saw a bunch of people in the rotunda, but then to my left, I saw some protesters kind of rushing down the hall through Statuary Hall towards the house floor.

00:29:53.000 So I went through Statuary Hall and there was already like, um, evidence of some riot control munitions being used.

00:30:01.000 Um, you can see like the pepper on the ground, you know, and, and also the orange tinge of, uh, pepper spray, you know, like it has a red color depending on which brand it is, but, um, So I proceeded down that hallway and I actually saw a group of protesters surrounding the house doors and there were like eight or nine of them.

00:30:19.000 You can see it on my video right as I arrive.

00:30:21.000 And actually some of them are shouting like, you killed her, you killed someone, you killed someone.

00:30:25.000 And so they were already somehow aware.

00:30:27.000 I think that was just immediately after the shooting had taken place.

00:30:30.000 And one of them had wedged himself right in that door.

00:30:33.000 And I think that's the photo that you see with the police with their guns drawn.

00:30:36.000 Right.

00:30:36.000 That guy with his face right there.

00:30:38.000 Because there were only two or three police at the time.

00:30:40.000 They're actually outnumbered right in front of the doors.

00:30:43.000 And they were trying to pry him off.

00:30:45.000 But because they were outnumbered, they were basically waiting for reinforcements.

00:30:48.000 There's a clip where you're saying you can't breathe and there's a cop saying he can't breathe.

00:30:51.000 little standoff before six or seven more cops showed up and then remove them and we were

00:30:56.000 pushed back out into through Statuary Hall and into there.

00:30:59.000 There's a clip where you're saying you can't breathe and there's a cop saying he can't

00:31:02.000 breathe.

00:31:03.000 What happened with that?

00:31:04.000 OK, so that was after we were pushed through Statuary Hall.

00:31:07.000 We were back into the Capitol Rotunda, which is the big, underneath the big dome.

00:31:12.000 That's like the biggest room there.

00:31:14.000 And there were still, you know, maybe a hundred people in there.

00:31:16.000 The cops started to push us out, but there's kind of like a, maybe only a 20 foot wide doorway there.

00:31:22.000 And so what happened was all the protesters got bottlenecked there.

00:31:25.000 They were pushing back.

00:31:27.000 And then there were maybe 40 or 50 cops at the time pushing against us.

00:31:30.000 So I was, you know, as a reporter, it's it's valuable to be in the middle of of the protesters and the cops.

00:31:36.000 You can kind of show both sides.

00:31:38.000 So I was stuck in between.

00:31:39.000 And I literally had you can hear on the video one.

00:31:42.000 The cop had his billy club on my stomach and I was like, can you just take it off my tummy?

00:31:46.000 Like, please, like my tummy up here.

00:31:47.000 Well, I don't know why I said that.

00:31:49.000 I don't know why I said that, but I think it was Yeah, I don't know But you could hear another you never know how you act in a crisis people people think they know there was one you know Sometimes you blurt out Tommy, but it felt a lot better once he got it up on my vest.

00:32:06.000 Why was he doing?

00:32:07.000 He was like holding you back or what so he was pushing against me to try to push the protesters back, but there were Probably 30 protesters behind me pushing against me, so I literally was just I mean I was telling the officers like there's nothing I can do and he was being pushed behind by his own officers, so This is why you shouldn't go in between.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:25.000 I understand what you mean, but you know, you're trying to, you're trying to stand not necessarily in between, but like off, but still sort of like, so you can see both groups and what they're doing.

00:32:33.000 Cause if you're behind the protesters, you won't see what they're doing.

00:32:36.000 And if you're behind the cops, you don't see what the cops are.

00:32:38.000 You gotta, you gotta get that angle.

00:32:39.000 It's tough.

00:32:40.000 And then you end up getting jammed.

00:32:41.000 It was like 20 minutes stuck in there as just pushing back and forth.

00:32:44.000 Wow.

00:32:45.000 But then they broke through or what?

00:32:47.000 Um, they eventually pushed the protesters all out.

00:32:50.000 Okay.

00:32:50.000 They cleared it out.

00:32:51.000 And, and then there was another scuffle by the, the, the door to the exit, which had also been smashed and they were trying to close, but the protesters were blocking that.

00:32:51.000 Yeah.

00:33:00.000 And so that was like kind of the last final push and I got tossed into the door.

00:33:05.000 This is pretty big news by an AP reporter named Mike Balsamo who says quote US Capitol Police say reports that an officer has died are not true.

00:33:16.000 Although some officers were injured and hospitalized yesterday, no US CP officers have passed away.

00:33:23.000 This is again according to Mike.

00:33:25.000 Balsalmo, who is an AP reporter, that just broke this story a couple minutes ago.

00:33:30.000 I didn't want to interrupt you.

00:33:32.000 Now, here's the challenge for us here, as with anything pertaining to the news.

00:33:32.000 No, no.

00:33:36.000 I've got, what, 800 plus sources saying an officer died of being hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, and we have one guy saying it's not true.

00:33:42.000 So who do you trust?

00:33:44.000 I actually know Mike.

00:33:45.000 He does great work.

00:33:46.000 I trust him.

00:33:48.000 I do, too.

00:33:50.000 He did... I can't remember what he... He covered some big events.

00:33:53.000 He did, what Mike did was really cool, was during the Portland riots, he got inside Axis with a federal officer, so he actually got to be in the line with them, and he got to actually interview and tell their story.

00:34:03.000 So, yeah, I think, I'll trust Mike on that one, but at the same time, we'll see.

00:34:08.000 We'll have to wait for things to kind of... Look, it's really fascinating that, I mean, we've got, you know, KRON 4, we've got CNN, we've got a bunch of sources saying this officer died.

00:34:18.000 Now he's coming out saying the Capitol Police are denying that.

00:34:20.000 It makes sense.

00:34:21.000 Sometimes, you know what happens?

00:34:23.000 Is that CNN will get a story and then everyone copies CNN and cites them.

00:34:26.000 And then someone goes for a comment and goes, whoa, you got to stop.

00:34:29.000 Well, Tim, actually speaking of the AP, Mike, well, I got there a little bit after, I guess, the crowd has already been cleared out at the U.S.

00:34:37.000 Capitol.

00:34:38.000 So it was between 4 and 435.

00:34:39.000 And as soon as I got there, there were still hundreds of folks at the U.S.

00:34:42.000 Capital and there was a lot of rage going on.

00:34:45.000 And so I got on the ground and the AP was actually there still reporting, they had a couple of cameras,

00:34:50.000 I believe they had about four cameras, tripods, the whole thing.

00:34:54.000 And the whole crowd just starts turning on them, attacking them.

00:34:58.000 Smashing their cameras.

00:34:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:00.000 And then they took down the barricades.

00:35:00.000 And then in my video, you can see one man with American flagpole just, you know,

00:35:04.000 trying to hit them and then smack the cameras out of them.

00:35:06.000 And eventually the crowd just destroys the whole equipment.

00:35:09.000 And so I took that footage and then I uploaded on Twitter.

00:35:13.000 Then the response online is, you know, folks were just like cheering it on.

00:35:19.000 And- It's mob mentality.

00:35:21.000 That's why we use our cell phones.

00:35:22.000 And look, and I get it, you know, there's a lot of anger with the mainstream media,

00:35:25.000 but I think for me as a takeaway, as a reporter was, you know, and maybe Rich, if you have some thoughts on this,

00:35:30.000 it's like during the summer when we filmed press getting attacked from Black Lives Matter activists,

00:35:35.000 and we put that online, that same crowd would say, hey, these are the anti-fascists.

00:35:39.000 They're against, you know, the first amendment.

00:35:40.000 They're against freedom of press.

00:35:42.000 That's a really interesting point.

00:35:47.000 And it goes back to what you were talking about with the small businesses earlier, which is, you know, over the summer, what we saw were a lot of really people who felt like they'd been sold down the river and they were angry about it.

00:35:59.000 And that anger was aimed towards a system that was enforced by police.

00:36:04.000 And so the argument of BLM and Antifa is always, you know, they enforce a corrupt system. 1.00

00:36:09.000 Therefore, all cops are bastards. 1.00

00:36:10.000 So we saw that turn happen. 1.00

00:36:14.000 Not this last rally, but the one before, where all the Proud Boys were basically saying, you guys are enforcing this system that's stealing our election.

00:36:22.000 Therefore, you guys are terrible.

00:36:24.000 But we started seeing the sentiment against police when the cops were enforcing the COVID lockdowns.

00:36:29.000 And some of them were perceived as arbitrary by locals, notably in Staten Island, where you had this one bar that decided to open up in defiance of the lockdown.

00:36:37.000 But two blocks away, there's a restaurant just operating like normal.

00:36:41.000 And so the locals get angry, and they say, what's this all about?

00:36:44.000 Why are we locked down and they're not?

00:36:45.000 And they say, well, you're on the border of the red zone.

00:36:47.000 So when the police come out and block the door, people in Staten Island, Trump supporters, come out with Trump flags, surprisingly thin blue line flags, yelling at the cops.

00:36:57.000 And then it escalated when we actually saw the conservatives take the thin blue line flag, throw it on the ground, stomp on it, and then throw it in the street.

00:37:04.000 And then I think now you've got conservatives saying it's the birth of right-wing Antifa.

00:37:07.000 Well, it's important to point out in Stan Island, the zone that was restricted the most was a Republican area that many people said that the local Democratic government was selectively choosing to enforce these rules on.

00:37:20.000 Well, they were also targeting the Jewish areas, which is really weird.

00:37:24.000 Yeah, the Hasidic Jewish community and we talked about that extensively on this show and even had Heshi on the show who's still out there and going to many rallies and doing a lot of different stuff.

00:37:34.000 I actually made my way up there and covered a story with the Hasidic Jewish community where they just defied the lockdown orders and kind of partied out in the streets.

00:37:44.000 Burned some masks.

00:37:45.000 One of the crazy things too I guess is just people There's a lot of commentary on the wrong target, I guess.

00:37:51.000 They're saying, why are you going to the Capitol building?

00:37:53.000 They're doing this, I guess you'd call it pro forma or ceremonial electoral count.

00:37:59.000 And it didn't matter if it was shut down or not.

00:38:01.000 It doesn't matter if you're in the Capitol.

00:38:02.000 Where's the actual organization and the protests of these actual corrupt institutions?

00:38:08.000 I get it.

00:38:09.000 They view the Capitol and Congress as corrupt in a lot of ways.

00:38:12.000 But what about the media?

00:38:14.000 And what about, more importantly, Organizing and planning so that what you do is effective in some capacity.

00:38:19.000 Because now what we see here is already there's Joe Biden coming out numerous occasions now saying it was insurrection, domestic terrorism, and things like that.

00:38:27.000 So, you know, we had the Patriot Act.

00:38:29.000 Now they're going to come out with the, like, securing American freedoms.

00:38:32.000 And now we're seeing an argument to remove Trump from office with the impeachment.

00:38:36.000 Article 25.

00:38:39.000 My question is, I think if that had been a BLM march, then perhaps they would have had more guards?

00:38:46.000 Who's in charge of that?

00:38:48.000 Who's job is it to make sure that that Capitol doesn't get attacked?

00:38:53.000 It's Capitol Police, right?

00:38:54.000 There's Park Police involved, Muriel Bowser, and the federal government. 0.99

00:38:58.000 Who of those people fucked up? 0.98

00:39:00.000 Sorry, messed up. 0.99

00:39:01.000 Fudged up.

00:39:03.000 It's the Capitol Police who's now resigned, I suppose.

00:39:06.000 But I think the issue is, look, I think they screwed up, but more importantly, nobody thought Trump supporters were going to do this.

00:39:14.000 Come on.

00:39:15.000 I had my helmet and my gas mask on.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, but I guess we've seen the escalation, like I mentioned, with cops and, you know, the Proud Boys fighting.

00:39:22.000 But, like, you look at Antifun, they're showing up, and they've been burning, you know, Antifun, Black Lives Matter, have been burning things down for years. 0.99

00:39:30.000 They're like, we better secure this.

00:39:32.000 You get the ellipse full of a bunch of middle-aged and older Trump supporters waving little flags and Trump giving a speech, and they're like, nah, it's gonna be fine.

00:39:39.000 You know, we don't got anything to worry about.

00:39:40.000 And apparently they did.

00:39:41.000 The Proud Boys, the previous rally, they weren't just waving little flags.

00:39:44.000 They were running through the streets, shouting F Antifa and looking for fights.

00:39:49.000 Sure.

00:39:49.000 And they got the fights.

00:39:50.000 But to assume that the regular Trump supporters would bolster that, you know what I mean, would would would would.

00:39:57.000 I agree with that, but I don't think it takes very many in the group in order to create that kind of situation.

00:40:02.000 And I think, you know, what some people have said is, I can't believe I'm seeing people that think it was a good strategy.

00:40:09.000 I don't think it matters.

00:40:12.000 I don't think that matters.

00:40:13.000 You know what, man?

00:40:14.000 When we see Cori Bush and AOC, they're calling for the expulsion of members of Congress who supported Trump.

00:40:20.000 She directly said that Ted Cruz and Hawley should be expelled from Congress.

00:40:25.000 It's like, okay, you're a congresswoman.

00:40:27.000 They're senators.

00:40:27.000 It's a bit different.

00:40:28.000 It's the upper chamber.

00:40:29.000 But that's an insane and dangerous escalation.

00:40:33.000 And it's going to keep happening.

00:40:35.000 Nobody wants to back down.

00:40:36.000 CNN doesn't.

00:40:37.000 CNN is looking at their CPMs, on YouTube perhaps, but they're looking at their ad rates, and Jeff Zucker is cracking the champagne and saying, we gotta keep this going somehow.

00:40:47.000 And let's not forget, just a month ago, there was reports of Jeff Zucker wanting to step down because of the Trump administration.

00:40:53.000 So for him, it was like, hey, I already wrote what I could do.

00:40:56.000 We already hit the highest ratings we can under the Biden administration.

00:41:00.000 It's gonna be lame duck media.

00:41:03.000 So yeah, there was already reports of Jeff Zucker trying to step down, but with this, it's gonna You might want to stay in business for a little bit.

00:41:08.000 Someone today took Chris Cuomo's comments a few months ago where he said protests are not supposed to be peaceful.

00:41:14.000 They took the full segment and instead of doing the b-roll of Black Lives Matter during the summer they replaced it with what happened in the Capitol and everyone's freaking out about that video.

00:41:24.000 I mean obviously it's doctored, obviously it's fake but...

00:41:27.000 We have to understand, you know, a lot of the bigger kind of mainstream media institutions have kind of led this kind of foundation, this groundwork, that it's okay to use violence for political means.

00:41:37.000 As long as it's your political means.

00:41:39.000 Exactly.

00:41:39.000 I mean, Vox literally had an article that said, riots are destructive, dangerous, and scary, but can lead to serious political reform.

00:41:49.000 This is what people are, you know, people, I got an email from someone saying, Tim, you're wrong about violence.

00:41:53.000 And they were like, look at all these things throughout history where violence has brought change.

00:41:56.000 And I'm like, bro, that was 400 years ago.

00:41:58.000 Like there was no mass media, there was no mass communication.

00:42:01.000 And so yes, one day somebody was leaving their farm and went to town hall and saw a different flag there and went, what happened?

00:42:06.000 And they were like, oh, he's in charge now.

00:42:07.000 And they're like, oh.

00:42:08.000 But we have to understand, BLM had the support of the establishment, of the mainstream media, of attorney generals that literally let off a lot of people.

00:42:17.000 Trump supporters don't have any of that.

00:42:19.000 So that's why this was a big miscalculation.

00:42:21.000 This was a big misstep.

00:42:23.000 And I think this was just a fervent crowd just getting the best of it all.

00:42:27.000 So here's the question, though, is that do you think the conservative media's reaction has been similar to what, quote unquote, liberal media's reaction was to the BLM riots?

00:42:35.000 It's always like, well, I don't know specifically, but I will say conservatives, especially like Ben Shapiro, will immediately come out and condemn on principle things.

00:42:46.000 Yeah, like if the violence is wrong, if the left does it, if the right doesn't do that, though.

00:42:50.000 There's right wingers detesting everything that happened yesterday.

00:42:54.000 Fox News, as it was happening, had the head guy of CPAC on talking about how it was justifiable to assassinate and kill an unarmed woman who he thought at the time was a teenager.

00:43:05.000 Was that Match Slap?

00:43:09.000 So Fox News already was saying, this is disgusting, this is horrible, this is bad. 0.99

00:43:13.000 People deserve to die when they were shot unarmed by the cops. 0.98

00:43:17.000 That's the messaging that was coming out on Fox.

00:43:18.000 A lot different than, of course, MSNBC saying, oh, this protest is mainly peaceful.

00:43:25.000 There's a police station on fire behind the guy and he goes, now, now, I know.

00:43:31.000 And now these same people are lecturing us about how everyone who was there, whether innocent or not, whether bad or not, whether doing something illegal or not, deserves to be sent to jail for the maximum amount of time.

00:43:44.000 We deserve to lose our civil liberties.

00:43:46.000 We deserve to lose our speech because this happened.

00:43:49.000 And this is bad and this is horrible because violence should be detested at all costs.

00:43:54.000 Meanwhile, they were cheering it on just a few weeks ago.

00:43:56.000 Here's what I love though.

00:43:57.000 When Black Lives Matter shows up in DC, they paint the street Black Lives Matter. 0.99

00:43:57.000 27? 0.99

00:44:02.000 Then they get a ridiculous amount of police to guard the...

00:44:05.000 27?

00:44:05.000 No, no, no. I'm talking about guarding the Capitol buildings.

00:44:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:08.000 You can see the picture of CBP doing their trainings and they're like, we're dispatching CBP.

00:44:13.000 And the left, I think it's... they make a really great point when they say,

00:44:17.000 why were so many cops deployed when we come out?

00:44:20.000 And then when it's Trump supporters, they don't bring out that many, that much at all.

00:44:23.000 And I'm like, that's a really great point.

00:44:25.000 Because they didn't secure this, Trump supporters break in.

00:44:28.000 And because they didn't secure this, everyone now must suffer.

00:44:33.000 Social media must be censored.

00:44:36.000 People are being banned from Twitter like crazy.

00:44:39.000 There's tons of reports now of thousands of people just getting their accounts just axed.

00:44:44.000 There you go.

00:44:46.000 A group of several hundred people breach the barricades, they go in the building, and like you said, it seemed like a lot of them may have been just bumbling about, bewildered.

00:44:53.000 There were guys smoking, literally rolled and smoked doobies underneath the Capitol Rotunda.

00:44:59.000 Wow.

00:44:59.000 And there were like three or four of them that I filmed, and they were just happy to talk to me about what kind of weed they were smoking.

00:45:08.000 That's crazy.

00:45:09.000 No masks?

00:45:12.000 Can't smoke a doobie with a mask on.

00:45:12.000 No mask.

00:45:14.000 No, but I mean, like, these people didn't realize... I'm not talking about, like, a COVID mask.

00:45:17.000 I'm talking about... Oh, yes, the amount of cameras they have in there.

00:45:20.000 I mean, you walk into that rotunda and you're getting a facial scan. 0.99

00:45:23.000 These people were bumbling and doting just, I don't know, fools? 0.98

00:45:29.000 Yeah, I was watching, like, that guy, Baked Alaska, just live streaming in there. 0.99

00:45:34.000 I was like, oh, no.

00:45:35.000 Prison.

00:45:36.000 Prison.

00:45:37.000 I also don't think that they understood, like, I think a lot of the people didn't... Yo, that painting over there is literally priceless.

00:45:43.000 It was painted in, like, 1784, you know?

00:45:45.000 And it's this massive, like, oil painting, and there's just literally guys smoking doobies in front of it.

00:45:51.000 And I got pepper sprayed in that room.

00:45:53.000 And there was tear gas deployed in the rotunda, right?

00:45:54.000 Yeah, there was, like, pictures of, like, the Trump supporters... I didn't see it personally, because I came in after, but I, like I said, I saw the evidence of riot control munitions, so...

00:46:03.000 Now, how do you clean the, you know, they're spraying the fire extinguishers.

00:46:07.000 People don't realize that all throughout the hallways of these buildings are priceless old portraits and paintings that are well taken care of.

00:46:16.000 I remember when I went to the White House, there were rooms where, like, I went to the bathroom and there was, like, this ancient sword or whatever.

00:46:23.000 I shouldn't say ancient, but, like, several hundred-year-old swords, like, outside the door.

00:46:26.000 And I'm like, what is that?

00:46:26.000 I'm like, oh, that sword is from this battle where, you know, this, you know, ambassador came here.

00:46:30.000 And I'm like, That's the bathroom!

00:46:32.000 That's the White House.

00:46:33.000 When you're in the Capitol Building, too, it's like, that's real artifacts and art of history.

00:46:39.000 People going in there and smashing things and letting off the fire extinguishers and stuff.

00:46:43.000 And then, of course, the riot munitions.

00:46:45.000 That's, that's, that's... You know what, man?

00:46:47.000 You wanna know what story really breaks my heart?

00:46:50.000 The burning of the Library of Alexandria.

00:46:52.000 Yes.

00:46:53.000 Yeah.

00:46:53.000 You guys know that, right?

00:46:55.000 Like the old library ancient history?

00:46:57.000 That like, man, all the things we could have learned and all that history is gone.

00:47:00.000 So when I think about what you're talking about, these paintings.

00:47:06.000 I don't like it.

00:47:06.000 But I will say, at least in the situation that I was in, the police showed a lot of restraint in only pushing, you know, and basically relying only on that.

00:47:17.000 And taking selfies with people.

00:47:18.000 Well, so, like I said, I didn't see any of that, so I can only speak on what I saw, but those police in that room, I saw maybe one or two times pepper spray deployed in a very, like, they were outnumbered.

00:47:30.000 And it wasn't until, you know, the TAC police arrived.

00:47:33.000 There were like a dozen guys in TAC gear, but they were outnumbered.

00:47:36.000 I don't know if you guys seen that video, BG on the Scene got it, where you had the US Capitol Police guy, he was like in the corner, literally, like just shivering, quivering, of fear.

00:47:44.000 And I was like, whoa, that was like, oh man.

00:47:47.000 Isn't that weird though?

00:47:48.000 Were you guys quivering when all this was going down?

00:47:52.000 You were inside, were you shaking with fear and like scared, like as people were coming in?

00:47:57.000 You've got the risk, Richie, of the protesters and the police.

00:48:01.000 You're not a participant.

00:48:02.000 You're there as a journalist.

00:48:03.000 They were smashing cameras outside.

00:48:05.000 So the cops are going to be like, I don't care.

00:48:06.000 They're going to go after everybody.

00:48:08.000 Then you got the protesters who are like, someone's etched murder the media into a door.

00:48:12.000 I saw that.

00:48:13.000 How is it?

00:48:14.000 Were you quivering, Richie?

00:48:15.000 Were you terrified and shaking?

00:48:17.000 I think the only reason why I, you know, would think that I would get targeted is because I think I, you know, I'm not going to dress up like a Trump supporter, right?

00:48:26.000 But when I go to an Antifa riot, I'm dressing up like Antifa to blend in.

00:48:31.000 So I think maybe, you know, I stood out more than I would have in a normal situation.

00:48:35.000 What I just mean is you are in this, a credentialed press, you have normal access to the building and all that stuff.

00:48:42.000 You're covering what's going on.

00:48:43.000 And there's this cop who's quivering and terrified.

00:48:46.000 Now we have this photo of all the members of Congress, they're like hiding and ducking, terrified.

00:48:50.000 I think, to be fair, they don't know necessarily what the threat is.

00:48:53.000 All they know is they're told something's going on.

00:48:56.000 And they found pipe bombs.

00:48:57.000 So, you know, that I understand.

00:48:59.000 But it's, to me, the cop.

00:49:01.000 To see that video of that cop shivering, and I'm like, that dude... Look, man, you know, I once interviewed this NYPD detective.

00:49:08.000 And he was talking about the problems of the cops and guns and unarmed people being shot, and he said, it's because you got scared people with guns.

00:49:16.000 There's nothing more dangerous than a scared person with a gun.

00:49:19.000 And I'm like, there's a lot of things more dangerous, like a grizzly bear running through New York.

00:49:22.000 But I get your point.

00:49:23.000 I get your point.

00:49:24.000 And so when I see a video of that, I'm like, dude is not prepared for this.

00:49:28.000 Not at all.

00:49:28.000 Yeah, there's memes going around showing the pictures of the legislators and they're kind of hiding and the caption reads, these are the people that send us to war.

00:49:39.000 Send your children to war. 0.93

00:49:41.000 And again, people react differently during moments of panic and chaos and you don't really know what's going to happen until you really face it, until you have that adrenaline rushing through your blood, until your instincts take, you know, just take over.

00:49:56.000 You know, rational thinking is out the door.

00:49:58.000 Some people are able to quiet their mind and see things very slowly, but very few people can do that.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, let me ask you guys this too, because this is something... There's an experience that people often say when you're in these conflict situations, it feels like time slows down.

00:50:11.000 Does that resonate with you guys?

00:50:14.000 It certainly does with me when I used to be on the ground with this stuff.

00:50:16.000 There would be gunshots going off.

00:50:18.000 And it's like, of course it doesn't slow down, like not literally, but you're just heightened.

00:50:23.000 Your brain's going a million miles an hour and it feels kind of like you're taking off.

00:50:28.000 Like Neo in the Matrix and the bullets are coming and then you're slightly moving away.

00:50:32.000 Like me being in these different rides in these different countries and in places like Ferguson,

00:50:36.000 it's not that time slows down, this is why I explain to people, but it's like all of a sudden,

00:50:40.000 when you're looking at something, you're focused, right?

00:50:43.000 Like, like there's a beer bottle over there.

00:50:44.000 I can read the beer bottle and I can see in my peripheral vision, some, you know, some stuff, but like in these conflicts, it's like all of my field of vision becomes focused in focus and I can just see everything's coming in and it kind of makes it feel like time is slowing down.

00:50:56.000 Your senses are honed in and you're in the moment and every sound, every, every little thing you pick up on and you register and it's there.

00:51:03.000 I think, um, I read it in a book.

00:51:05.000 It's, um, Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.

00:51:07.000 And I think maybe for us, cause we're journalists and I think this is what it is for us.

00:51:10.000 I think we, when we're in those moments, I think what it's called, it's called flow state for us.

00:51:14.000 I think for us, yeah, for us, I think since our, our, our focus is so high cause we know, I think the moment, the intensity, the significance.

00:51:22.000 And also I think a lot of stuff we cover is historic.

00:51:25.000 So I think we know to perform our best that we just kind of click into this flow state and things just take, and sometimes you can't just describe like for me.

00:51:32.000 Yeah.

00:51:32.000 Like I'm a, you know, people always come up to me and they're like, oh man, like I love what you do.

00:51:36.000 You're such a brave person and stuff.

00:51:38.000 I'm like, I'm not like, I don't, you can't get me to go on a roller coaster.

00:51:41.000 Like I won't do a roller coaster.

00:51:42.000 I don't do roller coasters either.

00:51:43.000 But I think what it is, is in those moments when we're in those chaotic scenes and you don't know what's going to happen, I think us journalists, we kind of maybe click into this flow state.

00:51:52.000 Cause for me, I don't have any fear.

00:51:54.000 I just feel more focused.

00:51:55.000 I actually feel more alive than ever.

00:51:58.000 I feel like everything is in tune.

00:51:59.000 What do you think, Richie, about that?

00:52:00.000 I don't know how it clicks in for you.

00:52:01.000 But I mean, what do you think, Richie, about that?

00:52:03.000 I don't know how it clicks in for you.

00:52:05.000 Definitely that, but I think there's a unique feeling that I've felt just a handful of times over this, you know, riotous

00:52:12.000 period.

00:52:13.000 And it's a feeling of how is this my country and how is this happening here?

00:52:18.000 And another time was when they tried to pull down the Jackson statue right in front of the White House and they spray painted Black House autonomous or BHAZ on the St.

00:52:26.000 John's Church.

00:52:27.000 And that was another moment.

00:52:28.000 And they set it on fire.

00:52:28.000 Yes.

00:52:29.000 And the video of the fire from that church is no joke.

00:52:32.000 No joke.

00:52:32.000 We're lucky they put it out.

00:52:34.000 And it's also hard because, you know, in most of these instances I'm covered in pepper spray, so it's like, it's like this moment where I take off my gas mask and I'm like, yes, this is, I'm seeing, what I'm seeing is real.

00:52:45.000 You know what, you know what, man?

00:52:46.000 I've been in, I don't know, I don't, I've got this sinking feeling all day since yesterday, since all the stuff started going down.

00:52:53.000 I can feel it, you know, right in the pit of my stomach.

00:52:56.000 Just this low grade worry.

00:52:59.000 I don't necessarily want to say fear, because it's not like I'm heightened and I'm alert to something coming, but it's like a worry-like kind of stress, right?

00:53:06.000 Now, I don't know if everybody's feeling that way, the people who are watching, because I go to the gas station or whatever, I go out to eat, and people are just going about their lives like nothing's going on.

00:53:15.000 And I wonder if it's because I've seen this in other countries.

00:53:18.000 The stuff that we're seeing with AOC and Cori Bush saying, expel Cruz and Hawley.

00:53:24.000 AOC has said, we must pass Cori Bush's resolution expelling and investigating these Republicans.

00:53:30.000 I've seen that kind of stuff before.

00:53:32.000 I've seen that language before.

00:53:34.000 And I've seen where these street protests end up with people, you know, going through the doors of a building and taking it over and shutting things down.

00:53:42.000 And now it's happening here and there's no escape.

00:53:45.000 Cause I always knew when I was in some of these countries watching the cast in the destruction and yeah, criticize it.

00:53:50.000 It's the journalistic, it's the parachute journalism privilege of knowing when all is said and done, I'm on a plane, I'm back home, I'm kicking back, having a burrito and watching SpongeBob or whatever.

00:54:00.000 Like family guy.

00:54:01.000 I don't got anything to worry about.

00:54:02.000 This is your country, right?

00:54:04.000 So I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you know when I've been to places like Venezuela and Egypt, Ukraine, etc., and I'm watching these things happen, I'm like, I know that I'm dipping my toe in, and at a certain point, they're gonna call me back and I'm gonna go home, and then I'm gonna go to my friends and be like, wow, how crazy was that?

00:54:21.000 Cool, you guys wanna order pizza?

00:54:23.000 Now I'm sitting here at my house, watching videos of my own capital.

00:54:27.000 And seeing similar things.

00:54:28.000 And people, these people who are pushing these narratives, these people on CNN who are just... I watched this thing with Cuomo and Don Lemon doing this handoff.

00:54:37.000 And I almost threw up in my mouth a little bit.

00:54:38.000 I'm like, they love it.

00:54:40.000 They love it.

00:54:40.000 They're egging each other on.

00:54:42.000 You know, it's like Don Lemon's laughing and like eating chips or something.

00:54:45.000 I don't know what he was doing. 0.97

00:54:46.000 And they're just like, these people are terrorists.

00:54:48.000 And then Joe Biden comes out and says it's domestic terrorism.

00:54:50.000 And I'm like, 74 million people.

00:54:53.000 Voted for Donald Trump.

00:54:54.000 74 million people.

00:54:55.000 And they say, in a poll, 45% of Republican voters supported the storming of the Capitol.

00:55:00.000 This is not a joke.

00:55:01.000 You cannot be calling for escalation.

00:55:03.000 Ted Cruz was right when he said, we need to put the anger away.

00:55:07.000 We need to come together.

00:55:08.000 We need to figure this out.

00:55:09.000 And what was AOC's response?

00:55:11.000 You should be expelled.

00:55:12.000 And I'm like, I have seen this.

00:55:14.000 And I know where it goes.

00:55:15.000 And I'm watching it happen.

00:55:16.000 It's freaking me out.

00:55:18.000 74 million people disenfranchised, ignored, censored, and shamed.

00:55:24.000 And it's not going to get any better.

00:55:26.000 I mean, we talked about this for a while.

00:55:28.000 We knew this was happening.

00:55:30.000 And that feeling that you're getting, it's here too.

00:55:32.000 It's like a heaviness.

00:55:33.000 It feels more like the bottom of my stomach.

00:55:37.000 Because it feels like this is just the beginning and it's only going to get worse from here.

00:55:42.000 That's why you know also I was there in Venezuela.

00:55:44.000 I went to certain places like Zimbabwe to Somalia to see just chaos and when you're there you know you do have a moment where you're like Okay, I'm away from it.

00:55:55.000 I finally got away from it.

00:55:56.000 But when it's in your backyard, when it's happening in the United States, when you're seeing people hurt, injured, when you're seeing people just lost, and you know them, it's something that is really a feeling that that's very hard to describe.

00:56:11.000 But that pit, it's there.

00:56:13.000 I had it since yesterday as well.

00:56:14.000 And I sadly feel like it won't be healed.

00:56:17.000 It won't be fixed.

00:56:19.000 Anytime soon, especially if we have these institutions continuing to put fuel on the fire when I was in Egypt and I know I tell the story about Egypt a lot, but It was I think was like the 4th of July actually in 2013 maybe when they started going in and arresting journalists there was reports that the military had gone into various news outlets shut him down arrested people and I'm like I I gotta call my security people, I gotta call my support, figure out what's going on.

00:56:45.000 And immediately when I heard that the journalists were getting arrested...

00:56:49.000 It felt like someone grabbed my stomach and just squeezed it as hard as they could, because it's like that stress immediately, like, oh man, I'm in this country, the revolution is right there, so I was like, I gotta get my wits together, I had everything packed, and you gotta stay calm, you can't panic, you know?

00:57:03.000 Because I didn't know what was going on, right?

00:57:06.000 For all I knew, they were shutting down the journalists reporting on everything.

00:57:08.000 It turns out they were targeting certain journalists that supported the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:57:12.000 I went down to the lobby, asked some journalists, and they said, don't worry, everything's cool.

00:57:16.000 I was like, what's going on?

00:57:17.000 Are they going after journalists?

00:57:18.000 Is it something we got to worry about?

00:57:19.000 And these guys were just like, no, no, no, no, they're going after pro-Muslim Brotherhood networks and stuff.

00:57:23.000 And I'm like, still kind of messed up they're doing this, but we should be good, right?

00:57:27.000 And they're like, yes.

00:57:28.000 And then when the APCs rolled in, I called up the crew and I was like, I think it's time to go to the airport.

00:57:34.000 We leave to go to the airport, and I'm like, I'm getting that relieved feeling, and then they announce the bridges get shut down.

00:57:40.000 Like, we would have been stuck inside there.

00:57:42.000 The crazy thing, I'll tell you man, when I was in Venezuela, I was, uh, we get back to the hotel, we weren't there for like, you know, the protests were going on.

00:57:50.000 And we're going around, uh, talking to people, it's, we're in Caracas, and it's one of the, it's the murder capital of the world.

00:57:56.000 And we get back, we go to the hotel, I go take a shower, I come back to Twitter, and I have like 10,000 mentions.

00:58:02.000 My Twitter's blowing up.

00:58:03.000 At this point, when I was working, I had like 30,000 followers.

00:58:05.000 So I'm like, how do I have 10,000 mentions?

00:58:08.000 And it was a ton of threats, insults, some death threats.

00:58:12.000 And so that's what it happens again, right?

00:58:15.000 That feeling.

00:58:16.000 And so my immediate reaction is, what do we do?

00:58:18.000 And they said, don't leave right now.

00:58:19.000 It's dark out.

00:58:20.000 It's dangerous.

00:58:21.000 Wait for the crack of dawn, get in the car, get to the airport, and get out.

00:58:25.000 What happened was this pundit on TV had gotten some tweets from some American leftists who were saying I was working for the CIA.

00:58:32.000 And so he ran with it.

00:58:33.000 And he called me a mercenary from the media who was in Ukraine and all this stuff.

00:58:36.000 And so my main point is, you know, I get that feeling and I say, okay, be calm.

00:58:41.000 What's our plan?

00:58:42.000 We're getting in the car.

00:58:43.000 We're going to the airport and we're getting out.

00:58:45.000 We get, I get in the plane and I remember taking off.

00:58:47.000 And as soon as the wheels left the ground, the feeling lifts and I'm like, I'm officially in the air.

00:58:54.000 I hope they don't turn the plane around.

00:58:57.000 And some crazy stuff happened afterwards.

00:58:59.000 But at Vice, there was an intern who was Venezuelan, and he runs up to me immediately and says, how did you get out of the country?

00:59:04.000 And I was like, I got on a plane.

00:59:06.000 And he was like, you're lucky, bro.

00:59:08.000 If you had stayed a little bit longer, you probably would have been flagged and blocked, because they arrest people for way less than what they accused you of.

00:59:14.000 Long story short, there's no getting on a plane and leaving right now.

00:59:17.000 This stuff's all going down.

00:59:19.000 And, you know, all day today I'm looking at Twitter and I'm looking at the media and I'm seeing pundits, leftists, Democrats, and they're saying, we need more authority, we need more powers, we need retribution, we need reconciliation.

00:59:33.000 Saw that tweet from David Cross where he said, F that, I want blood.

00:59:37.000 Did you see that?

00:59:38.000 Maybe he was trying to be funny because Joe Biden called for unity.

00:59:42.000 It doesn't matter if he's trying to be funny or not.

00:59:43.000 Because we've seen too much violence.

00:59:46.000 An Antifa guy shot and killed a dude in Portland, a Trump supporter.

00:59:50.000 And so people are not even on edge anymore.

00:59:53.000 We're off.

00:59:53.000 We're falling, right?

00:59:55.000 And then you see something like that.

00:59:57.000 Was that Twitter removed?

00:59:58.000 Was he banned?

00:59:59.000 I don't think so.

00:59:59.000 I don't know.

01:00:00.000 But it's not a joke.

01:00:01.000 It's not at all.

01:00:02.000 There's no plane to get on to get out of here.

01:00:04.000 We're in it.

01:00:05.000 And then even after the election results, CNN came out and made like an hour special where they compared the whole Trump movement to Nazi Germany.

01:00:13.000 So it's just like... What?

01:00:14.000 Yeah, it's like having these things play out in mass media, I think is fueling, keeps fueling the division and we are so far apart from each other.

01:00:23.000 And then, you know, for me growing up in California, It's just like, now I understand, you know, people in California don't even understand, like, the problems of, like, someone in middle America and, like, Michigan and Ohio.

01:00:34.000 You know, for someone in California, they think, you know, if you vote for Trump, you're this crazy, you know, racist person and then, you know, you could go to somewhere like Detroit and say, hey, what's the reason why you voted for Trump?

01:00:45.000 And they'll tell you, well, I had a great job in the automobile industry, but then the NAFTA deal came.

01:00:50.000 Now my job's shipped.

01:00:51.000 Now I can't feed my family.

01:00:52.000 Now my kids are on opioids.

01:00:54.000 Now I have a divorce.

01:00:55.000 My kids are on drugs.

01:00:58.000 You know, no one speaks to me in Washington.

01:01:00.000 So it's just like, how do we get back where we could just have regular Americans back at the table talking about these issues?

01:01:06.000 But I think media right now is just playing a huge role in the division.

01:01:10.000 And it's from both sides, not just from one side, from both sides.

01:01:14.000 That was what happened after Kenosha, which is like one side of the media basically was telling a different story than the other.

01:01:21.000 And me being the witness caught in the middle, it was incredibly infuriating to see one side not want to hear what you had to say, what you saw.

01:01:31.000 Not like your opinion on the thing what you saw because they had some political opinion on it.

01:01:37.000 I remember when that was happening and I remember saying there's no going back from this.

01:01:43.000 Once you have mainline media institutions excusing violence for political means there's no way you could put that big.

01:01:51.000 I can't curse here.

01:01:53.000 Big genie back into the lamp.

01:01:54.000 You can't.

01:01:56.000 The genie's out and it's being vigorously rubbed by all the special interests that are benefiting off of this larger divide and conquer agenda and these people fighting each other and sadly I mean, I think one of the issues that led to this is the censorship.

01:02:11.000 More censorship is going to create more problems, more disenfranchised people, more people not being able to talk out ideas.

01:02:18.000 But they're going to go to the extreme because they can't resolve it with proper communication.

01:02:23.000 That's one of the most important things that I think we should also talk about.

01:02:26.000 And also the copycat effect, which I want to talk about in just a little bit.

01:02:29.000 But you have a point.

01:02:30.000 No, we got some big news.

01:02:31.000 Actually, this news is from yesterday.

01:02:34.000 Heidi Hatch from KUTV's confirmed a Utah man involved in the protests, uh, this, uh, uh, involved in the protests in Utah this spring was in DC and stormed the Capitol amid violent protests.

01:02:45.000 It's a man named John Sullivan, and he was arrested as a member of Black Lives Matter during, during the riots in spring.

01:02:53.000 And apparently he claims he was there just to document, but he was there as the woman was shot.

01:02:57.000 So it looks like we do have confirmation of leftists, part of the protests that stormed the Capitol building.

01:03:05.000 I brought this up.

01:03:06.000 You know, as a lot of people are saying, like Matt Gaetz said, there's a facial recognition company that found Antifa or something.

01:03:10.000 I don't think that's true.

01:03:11.000 I think they denied that.

01:03:12.000 I don't know where he got that information from.

01:03:14.000 But a lot of people are saying, this was Antifa who did this.

01:03:16.000 Well, there's not a whole lot of evidence, but we do have a guy now.

01:03:19.000 This is what I was wondering.

01:03:19.000 We have him.

01:03:20.000 We were asking some questions the other day.

01:03:23.000 Antifa always counter-protests.

01:03:24.000 They always show up.

01:03:25.000 They announced they were going to show up.

01:03:26.000 Where were they this time?

01:03:28.000 And so I said this a few days before, now that the Proud Boys and Trump supporters are mad at cops, what happens when Antifa says, okay, and they don't, okay, my enemy of my enemy is my friend, I guess.

01:03:39.000 Is that, is it possible that some of these people at least, well, we got this from Heidi Hatch of KUTV.

01:03:44.000 I believe she's of KUTV.

01:03:46.000 Yes, KUTV News confirming this guy.

01:03:50.000 He's listed as an organizer of the Provo protest, arrested, accused of rioting and making threats.

01:03:55.000 And they even say in the KUTV story, or the woman, she says, he does not align with Donald Trump politically.

01:04:04.000 So we have leftists that were inside the Capitol.

01:04:07.000 At least we can say that much.

01:04:07.000 I don't know if that means moving forward, but...

01:04:10.000 And that's what I think why I always just say the term protesters.

01:04:14.000 I mean, I know people always get mad.

01:04:15.000 Oh, it's a riot or it's this or it's that.

01:04:17.000 I mean, I just think that's a generic term as opposed to saying Antifa BLM rioters.

01:04:23.000 You don't know just because they're wearing all black, you know, they could have come out there with good intentions.

01:04:27.000 They're just a mom who, you know, wanted to, you know, her kid got beat up by the police, you know, so you don't know just because they're wearing black or just because they're wearing a red hat.

01:04:35.000 Oh, OK.

01:04:36.000 Yeah, you support all the president's policies.

01:04:38.000 This is why I don't care for the tribalism.

01:04:40.000 That when that dude in all black showed up to that was an auto zone or whatever in Minneapolis and smashing things out immediately said that immediately they said this guy is far right. 0.54

01:04:49.000 Like the left knew.

01:04:51.000 Or a cop.

01:04:52.000 Or a cop, right.

01:04:54.000 Now we have the exact same thing when this goes down.

01:04:57.000 They're saying it was Antifa who did this.

01:04:58.000 And it's like, there may be.

01:04:59.000 We've got this guy, right?

01:05:01.000 So this was from yesterday.

01:05:02.000 They're saying they confirmed it.

01:05:04.000 But come on, man.

01:05:04.000 There were people wearing Trump hats.

01:05:07.000 We'll get a lot more information as we see who does get arrested.

01:05:11.000 Because they do have facial recognition in there, inside the Capitol.

01:05:15.000 I don't know about... Well, we have a whole track, trace, and database society with the NSA and FBI pretty much knowing everything about everyone through their cell phone.

01:05:22.000 They could easily geolocate everyone.

01:05:24.000 They don't need to put out these, you know, these notifications like the FBI and the USA Today.

01:05:30.000 They released saying, if you have any information, notify us, send us all your photos, send us all your tips, send us all the information.

01:05:36.000 We're going to go after everyone that was inside of there.

01:05:40.000 And again, we also... Another important element to kind of really think about here From my experience covering events, mob mentality is also something that people really need to consider because yes, there are some bad actors, but there's also some people just caught up in the crowd.

01:05:55.000 There's one famous photo, I just sent it to you Lydia, of this like older lady with her juice box, literally just kind of like not knowing where she is inside of the Capitol. 0.81

01:06:06.000 She was literally getting walked down the steps by Capitol Police.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, Mike Cernovich had an interesting kind of comment about this.

01:06:15.000 Let me try to find it here because... What was he talking about?

01:06:18.000 He said, let's just say, this is after Donald Trump's announcement, he said, let's just say that the Trump campaign will not be creating a bail fund for his supporters.

01:06:27.000 Lots of innocent people going to get caught up.

01:06:29.000 I feel deep sadness for them.

01:06:31.000 Some bad guys, sure, but droves always find themselves in the nest.

01:06:36.000 This is a really common tactic we see among left-wing organizers.

01:06:41.000 First thing I'll say is I'm not saying this as an attack outright on the left.

01:06:45.000 I'm just pointing out the right is not organized.

01:06:48.000 They're not.

01:06:48.000 There's very little organization on the right.

01:06:51.000 They don't go out in big marches.

01:06:52.000 It was not organized.

01:06:53.000 This whole thing was poorly organized.

01:06:54.000 I heard it from a lot of different people.

01:06:55.000 No bail support, no masks, no plans, no strategy.

01:06:57.000 But among the left, what they do is they know who their marks are.

01:07:01.000 It's like body filler, essentially.

01:07:03.000 They need a certain number of bodies as cover And they want regular people to get arrested.

01:07:08.000 So what we've seen in the past is you'll get like 10 extremist activists, or extremists, and they'll set up an event that's palatable to a thousand regular people who want to wave little flags and say, you know, save the environment.

01:07:22.000 Once they get that march going, they use that as cover to go and do some kind of action that results in a mass arrest.

01:07:30.000 That way, when these hundred or thousand regular people are confused and getting arrested, you get a bunch of press.

01:07:36.000 They want that to happen.

01:07:38.000 Imagine if 10 people stormed the Capitol.

01:07:40.000 Just 10.

01:07:41.000 People would be like, oh, 10 people went in, I guess.

01:07:43.000 Were they arrested?

01:07:43.000 Whatever.

01:07:44.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:07:45.000 It would have been really easy for the cops to handle it.

01:07:45.000 You know.

01:07:48.000 So they know they need bodies.

01:07:50.000 Unsuspecting, doting, you know, individuals who have no idea what's going on, who see an open door and walk in confused, bewildered.

01:07:58.000 And then the people who are pushing for this, who want it to happen, can get away with it.

01:08:02.000 And I'm not saying that it was on purpose here.

01:08:04.000 I'm just saying what you end up seeing is often unsuspecting and bewildered people marching in.

01:08:09.000 It's a very real psychological phenomenon of like a mob mentality.

01:08:13.000 If a couple people do it, that's all it takes to be seen across the country.

01:08:18.000 You could even see from the footage too, because right when folks are in there, they're just like Richie said, they were taking selfies, smoking pot.

01:08:25.000 So even for them, they were more shocked that they were even Yeah, exactly.

01:08:27.000 They were just kind of taking it in.

01:08:28.000 They didn't know whether there was staging a sit-in or occupying the Capitol building

01:08:34.000 for several hours.

01:08:35.000 They didn't even know.

01:08:36.000 I was watching that, a bunch of streamers just having fun, smoking pot.

01:08:41.000 It was kind of like, that's what I'm saying.

01:08:44.000 If that's Antifa, then I mean, yeah, I mean, wow.

01:08:47.000 Yeah, I don't think any Antifa is going to dress as undercover Trump supporters and then want to go to jail for 10 years to smoke a joint inside a Capitol building under a law that Trump put in place.

01:08:57.000 The idea that Antifa would take their mask off, put on a MAGA hat, take their mask off, put on a MAGA hat, and then walk in and be like, I'm actually a Trump supporter.

01:09:03.000 Here's my face.

01:09:04.000 Like, they wouldn't do that.

01:09:06.000 But there were a lot of people wearing masks.

01:09:08.000 I saw some of these people and I thought to myself, Trump supporters don't go around wearing masks like that.

01:09:13.000 I've been to so many different Trump rallies.

01:09:15.000 You've got troublemakers that are not left-wing, but there's also Boogaloo Boy types. 1.00

01:09:19.000 They wear masks.

01:09:20.000 So we don't necessarily know who these people were.

01:09:22.000 Again, we do know one of these guys was a BLM activist from Utah who was there at the Capitol.

01:09:28.000 Not surprised.

01:09:29.000 We've seen those videos of Black Lives Matter and Boogaloo Boys shaking hands. 0.94

01:09:33.000 Yeah.

01:09:33.000 You see that one?

01:09:34.000 The Antifa guy's like, you stood here with us today, so we thank you.

01:09:37.000 And then the Boogaloo Boy says something like, hey man, we agree the government's bad.

01:09:40.000 And they're like, all right.

01:09:42.000 Well, they agree.

01:09:43.000 So they like to claim that Boogaloo Boys are somehow the same as Trump supporters.

01:09:47.000 It's just not true.

01:09:49.000 It's not true.

01:09:50.000 Trump supporters are very much like liberals.

01:09:53.000 Not politically, of course, but in the sense that they like the country to a certain degree.

01:09:59.000 They're okay with how this country functions.

01:10:00.000 They're okay with... It's basically like reform versus revolution.

01:10:05.000 You've got extremists on both sides who want dramatic change overhauling revolution.

01:10:09.000 And then you've got the regular left and right-wing individuals.

01:10:12.000 I think the problem is the left in this country has moved so far left, but also gains has so much control now of institutions that regular Trump supporters who probably would be satisfied with winning an election are now feeling just totally cut out, period.

01:10:26.000 And so you then start seeing, you know, I think they're going to take advantage of that.

01:10:31.000 That anger they have now will be used by more extremist types, including Antifa, who was clearly there was a dude there from BLM.

01:10:36.000 Well, and we saw what happened in the first, the very first rally.

01:10:40.000 Basically, there were tons of footage of people in red hats walking through BLM Plaza.

01:10:45.000 Similar situation.

01:10:45.000 Didn't realize what they were walking themselves into.

01:10:48.000 With all like a mass of BLM folks in the plaza getting their butts beat. 1.00

01:10:53.000 And then the next time around, the Proud Boys say, not this time.

01:10:56.000 And they all travel from around the country by literally the thousands and show up ready to roll.

01:11:01.000 And that time, I mean, I think there was a lot more of the aggression coming from the Proud Boys.

01:11:06.000 Oh, she was a staunch reporter, too.

01:11:06.000 Yeah.

01:11:06.000 Oh, that's huge.

01:11:08.000 de Vos has resigned.

01:11:11.000 Writing in a letter to the president, there is a quote, there is no mistaking the impact

01:11:14.000 your rhetoric had on the situation.

01:11:16.000 And it is the inflection point for me.

01:11:18.000 Oh, she was a staunch reporter too.

01:11:20.000 Staunch reporter.

01:11:21.000 And not only that, but she was, you know, a lot of Trump, you know, we have Jack Murphy

01:11:24.000 on the show and he talks about Democrat to deplorable.

01:11:26.000 He wrote this book.

01:11:27.000 He interviewed a lot of people.

01:11:28.000 And one of the big issues was Title IX.

01:11:30.000 Reform from these colleges, making sure due process was standing, and these critical race theories being challenged, and she was very much doing that.

01:11:38.000 That's what, you know, Trump brought her in for.

01:11:41.000 For one of the reasons, at least.

01:11:43.000 Now she's out.

01:11:44.000 I tell you, man, what happened at that Capitol, you know what, man?

01:11:46.000 Look, there are a lot of people that don't want to listen to me.

01:11:49.000 The left doesn't want to listen to me for sure, and many of the staunchest Trump supporters don't want to hear it.

01:11:54.000 But when Lin Wood snapped off, I said, this is bad.

01:11:57.000 When Sidney Powell snapped off, this is bad.

01:11:59.000 Tucker Carlson said, I called Sidney and said, where's the evidence?

01:12:02.000 And she didn't give us any, and what happened? His ratings got cut in half.

01:12:06.000 If you listened to Tucker, Trump would be in a better position right now.

01:12:10.000 When I said Lin Wood is tweeting like crazy and it is one of the most destructive things for the president, I had a bunch of just like ardent Trump-supporting people say, you're wrong, he knows what he's talking about.

01:12:20.000 Like, no dude.

01:12:22.000 Whether that's true or not doesn't matter.

01:12:23.000 Okay, fine.

01:12:24.000 I think he's off. 0.96

01:12:26.000 I think he's gone nuts. 0.79

01:12:27.000 I don't know what's going on with him. 0.66

01:12:29.000 But he's delegitimizing the president.

01:12:31.000 And so when all this goes down, you need to understand the impact that going to that Capitol had.

01:12:36.000 It scared people.

01:12:38.000 Nobody wants to be... It's just... What do you accomplish?

01:12:43.000 I don't see what goal you would have where that's a good way to get there.

01:12:43.000 Exactly.

01:12:49.000 People thought that I guess, you know, uh, there's that video of that woman and she's crying and she's like, I went in and they amazed me.

01:12:55.000 And they're like, why did you go in?

01:12:56.000 And she goes, we're storming the Capitol.

01:12:58.000 It's a revolution.

01:12:59.000 Like, what do you mean a revolution?

01:13:00.000 You, you, a bunch of random people walking into the Capitol building is a revolution.

01:13:05.000 Like, um, that's not, you know, it's not, what's kind of the saddest thing too, that we should just take away is, you know, Ashley, the, the air force veteran who died.

01:13:14.000 I mean, she served our country.

01:13:15.000 She served in wars only to die in the U.S.

01:13:19.000 Capitol building.

01:13:20.000 I mean, it's just a disgrace.

01:13:23.000 The people in this country are getting really mad and, you know, I'm hearing people say that it's a reminder to, you know, the Republican Party or whatever that, you know, we're here and we're allowed or whatever.

01:13:34.000 And I'm like...

01:13:35.000 The Republican Party just, like, does what the Democrats want them to do for the most part.

01:13:39.000 They feign objection, they feign, you know, oh, we're gonna fight back, and then they obstruct, and then nothing really happens.

01:13:45.000 Like, Lindsey Graham coming out and saying, like, oh, that's it for me, I'm like, oh, come on!

01:13:49.000 Like, as if you were really ever doing anything for anybody, come on.

01:13:52.000 These politicians win because people go and vote for R or D, not a person, you know?

01:13:58.000 So, what I've been warning for some time is, you got a lot of angry people in this country for a lot of reasons.

01:14:03.000 Before Trump, it was the loss of manufacturing jobs and the collapse of these small towns and the opioid crisis.

01:14:09.000 And Trump was addressing that in many different ways.

01:14:11.000 Whether he solved those problems is another question.

01:14:13.000 Now, with the COVID lockdown, a lot of this is being revived and people are angry.

01:14:17.000 And they're especially mad now that the president they supported, after 74 million votes, loses.

01:14:22.000 But they're particularly mad that there's a bunch of signed, sworn affidavits of impropriety, and it should be adjudicated.

01:14:30.000 And there's weird mathematical anomalies and questions that want to be raised.

01:14:34.000 All of these things need to be presented.

01:14:37.000 Now, here's the thing.

01:14:39.000 They talk about, in the media, oh, it went to court.

01:14:42.000 These things were in court, and they were all shot down by the judges.

01:14:45.000 Well, not on the merits, right?

01:14:47.000 On procedure.

01:14:48.000 Here's the problem.

01:14:50.000 You actually had advocates in the Senate.

01:14:53.000 They called them the Dirty Dozen, because the media was insulting them, the Republicans who said, we are gonna go through the evidence.

01:14:59.000 It was your chance to have the evidence presented in the joint session.

01:15:03.000 Exactly.

01:15:03.000 And what happened?

01:15:04.000 They broke the doors in.

01:15:06.000 They evacuated.

01:15:08.000 That's what makes zero sense.

01:15:10.000 It makes no sense.

01:15:12.000 They were supposed to have their time for the whole country to be watching.

01:15:16.000 CNN was on and they were counting the votes and they were playing what the Republicans had to say.

01:15:22.000 And I was like, this is it.

01:15:23.000 The chance for the American people to hear the argument.

01:15:26.000 And then they evacuated, shut it down.

01:15:28.000 And then nobody was watching.

01:15:28.000 And that was it.

01:15:29.000 And I was really interested in what Josh Hawley was going to come out and say, because I was actually shocked that he came out and was like, I'm going to eject.

01:15:35.000 I'm like, okay, this is one of the more rising stars of the Republican Party.

01:15:38.000 He's come out and just set himself as a populist.

01:15:42.000 He also kind of set himself apart by working with Bernie Sanders on the 2K stimulus check.

01:15:47.000 Once he came out, I said, OK, this is going to get interesting.

01:15:49.000 Then, you know, Ted Cruz followed then.

01:15:51.000 But like you said, everyone is now a jumpy ship.

01:15:54.000 You know, Lothar ended up rescinding her objection as well.

01:15:57.000 And it's going all downhill real, real fast for the Trump administration.

01:16:01.000 So what's the reconciliation, though?

01:16:03.000 Is there just none?

01:16:04.000 I mean, oh, well, I mean, you got like Ted Cruz saying, let's put the anger aside and come together.

01:16:08.000 But they don't want it.

01:16:10.000 CNN clearly doesn't want it.

01:16:11.000 AOC doesn't want it.

01:16:14.000 Cenk Uygur doesn't want it.

01:16:15.000 They don't want it.

01:16:16.000 They do not want peace.

01:16:18.000 And so the problem is, what they don't realize, or they do, I don't know, when they point to like this QAnon Viking guy, This is not the majority of Americans, let alone Trump's base or the Republican Party.

01:16:31.000 It's just there are fringe people.

01:16:33.000 You know, I really don't like it when the conservatives say that Antifa is the Democratic Party, and I'm like, come on, they hate Joe Biden. 0.70

01:16:39.000 But they do think it's easier to overthrow a feeble old man than a fascist.

01:16:44.000 That's what they've been saying on social media.

01:16:46.000 But they don't like Joe Biden.

01:16:47.000 And so I've even been saying, like, now Antifa and the Trump supporters are against the establishment, right?

01:16:52.000 But when you get The high profile leftists claiming that every person who voted for Trump is like a QAnon person. 0.56

01:16:59.000 And that's what they do.

01:17:00.000 You're creating very serious problems. 0.87

01:17:02.000 And so they're like, we don't want to unify with these Q crazy people. 1.00

01:17:04.000 And it's like, okay, what about like the middle-aged suburban housewife who isn't all that political and just voted Republican for the sake of Republican?

01:17:12.000 You're going to accuse her of being a cultist?

01:17:14.000 Are you going to blanket everybody in the same group?

01:17:16.000 Well, apparently that's why they don't want to unify.

01:17:18.000 They don't want to be, we can't associate with them.

01:17:20.000 They have, they have a hyper-polarized view of the other.

01:17:23.000 And that's all we get in the media, all day, every day, is the other is bad, the other is bad.

01:17:27.000 And I think the one thing that's unique there as well, just in terms of the way that one side is viewed from the other, I don't think that... I think that the right might often say in media, you know, that the left is acting in bad faith, but they'll never really, like, say you're ignorant or you're stupid or you're somehow sub-smart enough to stand on the same plane as me. 0.98

01:17:48.000 But having worked at NBC and then worked at the Daily Caller and for Mark Levin, I mean, that's a very real thing. 0.94

01:17:55.000 And I think it's really, really, really, really hard until you're on that side and you experience it.

01:18:00.000 We've got some partially breaking news from the past hour.

01:18:04.000 Shamari Stone of NBC says Breakingham, outside the U.S.

01:18:08.000 A police officer just walked by with a flashlight, shined it in our parked SUV and other parked cars.

01:18:08.000 Capitol.

01:18:13.000 Many officers holding assault rifles run down Constitution Avenue.

01:18:16.000 An officer just told me, you might want to clear the area.

01:18:19.000 Now, I'm going to issue a correction for Shamari. 0.76

01:18:22.000 I don't believe they use assault rifles, do they?

01:18:24.000 Or actually, they're police.

01:18:24.000 They might actually have selective fire on these things, right?

01:18:27.000 Yeah, they have fully auto, usually.

01:18:28.000 So they're assault rifles, absolutely.

01:18:30.000 Okay, so... It depends on the cop, but... They attack police that are, yeah.

01:18:34.000 With full auto.

01:18:35.000 So these are actual assault rifles.

01:18:36.000 Okay, so that's my bet.

01:18:37.000 He says, again, a U.S. 0.69

01:18:39.000 Capitol Police officer just told me, sir, this is an emergency situation.

01:18:42.000 Clear the area.

01:18:43.000 Police hold assault rifles and search cars.

01:18:45.000 Well, I want to just mention too, Tim, before me and Richie got over here, one of our reporters for the Daily Caller was actually shooting some B-Roll at the Capitol, and he let us know after 40 minutes that he was on the ground that he was cleared away from the Capitol because they were searching for, I believe, a second bomb.

01:18:59.000 Right, Rich?

01:19:01.000 Just right now, tonight?

01:19:02.000 Yeah, this is earlier today.

01:19:03.000 This is a few hours ago.

01:19:05.000 Maybe 3 p.m.

01:19:05.000 Yeah.

01:19:07.000 So that was, yeah, I forgot to mention that as soon as we got on the show, but yeah, that happened earlier today.

01:19:11.000 We had a Daily Caller reporter on the ground there.

01:19:13.000 Well, I don't know what's going on now.

01:19:14.000 Something's happening.

01:19:15.000 I can't really find anything, but we'll keep looking.

01:19:17.000 This is becoming the breaking news show, Tim.

01:19:20.000 It happens.

01:19:21.000 It happens.

01:19:21.000 It's important to cover these events.

01:19:24.000 Now, another thing I wanted to add on your comments about the fringe, Tim, is that The fringe is only going to grow because of censorship.

01:19:32.000 More censorship, more people will go on the fringe.

01:19:35.000 And the mainstream media now saying, we need to ban them more, we need to censor them more, is going to have the opposite effect.

01:19:41.000 People need to realize that.

01:19:42.000 And another thing to really consider here is the copycat effect.

01:19:48.000 Because we were just talking about mob mentality.

01:19:50.000 I think this is also something important to consider.

01:19:53.000 Especially how the media, many times, helps kind of spur on mayhem especially with their ...

01:19:59.000 coverage of mass shooting events and this has been ...

01:20:02.000 criticized many times through many scientific studies ...

01:20:06.000 showing how highlighting and glorifying a shooter during a ...

01:20:10.000 big national event only creates copycat shooters the ...

01:20:13.000 mainstream media knows about this the scientists know ...

01:20:17.000 about this anyone paying attention knows about this but ...

01:20:21.000 yet if we want to reduce harm you're not going to create ...

01:20:24.000 any harm you're going to address real issues like the ...

01:20:28.000 copycat effect that no one really wants to even have a ...

01:20:31.000 legitimate conversation about that legitimate cause that ...

01:20:32.000 What's really funny is Andrew Yang had some tweets where he said that media polarization is causing this problem.

01:20:39.000 He talks about the issues that have led to the hyperpolarization, and then he says, partisan media, and then he puts in parentheses, Fox.

01:20:46.000 And a lot of people were like, why did you need to do that?

01:20:48.000 You should not have done that.

01:20:51.000 He's right.

01:20:51.000 I think Fox plays into it.

01:20:53.000 I think CNN plays into it.

01:20:54.000 I think MSNBC plays into it.

01:20:55.000 There's just, you know, ten news outlets for every one Fox.

01:20:59.000 Exactly.

01:20:59.000 But regardless, when you get that, it creates a problem.

01:21:03.000 I've even self-reflected on my own content, where I'm often critical of the Democrats, and I'll say it right now.

01:21:07.000 I can sit here and say, oh, the tribalism is all bad, and I'm heavily criticizing AOC.

01:21:11.000 How do you get past that?

01:21:12.000 I don't think it's possible.

01:21:13.000 If Ted Cruz says, we need peace, I say, thank you, Ted Cruz.

01:21:17.000 When AOC says, no peace, expulsion, I say, okay, that's a problem.

01:21:20.000 That's exactly my point, which is that if you wanted to have somebody on this show, uh, who was, you know, left of center, it would be much harder than I presume.

01:21:31.000 And that is exactly what I'm talking about, which is he's beneath me because he thinks this, you know, because whatever.

01:21:38.000 He's not establishment, legacy, whatever.

01:21:41.000 It doesn't work for the New York Times.

01:21:42.000 It's just absolutism.

01:21:43.000 It's authoritarianism.

01:21:45.000 Pushing the humanism and the algorithm also specifically on Twitter promotes it.

01:21:50.000 Whenever you donk on somebody or insult someone, the algorithm is done in a way where more people see that particular person.

01:21:56.000 More people engage in that particular post and you're ... seeing more followers more likes more hearts especially ... the more divisive you are and we have to also I mean ... legitimately points the finger at big tech social ... media companies that have been benefiting off of this ... tribalism warfare that they've been breeding.

01:22:13.000 They are partially responsible for it, and there's a lot of people talking about all these conspiracies, but this is something legitimately that we should worry about, that we should consider on a big level, because these are the ingredients that created this situation.

01:22:28.000 These ingredients are only being added.

01:22:30.000 They're not being subtracted. 0.97

01:22:31.000 This big pile of crap, family-friendly show here, But this big, stinking, peanut-filled piece of crap is there because of specific ingredients that are in there that could be addressed, but they're not. 0.98

01:22:45.000 Even simple conversations about them are censored online. 0.99

01:22:49.000 And again, we're never going to deal with it if we don't have free speech.

01:22:52.000 It's easier for Mark Zuckerberg to ban Trump and then say, oh, it's for your own good, when in reality he's just saying, I'm more scared of the left than the right.

01:23:00.000 So one of the biggest, you look at the things that led to Trump's victory, you look at the things now that are leading to the anger, and one of which has been censorship for some time.

01:23:11.000 People not being allowed to have a voice.

01:23:13.000 When you take away people's even ability to argue with you, well then they snap and they get angry. 0.94

01:23:19.000 And so, that was a driving factor, and Facebook, and Twitter, and YouTube, and Twitch, and Snapchat, all these different platforms are like, let's spray down, you know, we got this big ol' pile of crap, as Luke said, they opened up a sewer line.

01:23:32.000 Like, don't worry, we're solving it, we're cleaning it up, and you're like, dude, you're just filling it up, you're filling it up, man.

01:23:37.000 Yeah, it's not gonna work, I think, this is a recipe for disaster, because if you're gonna censor Trump and his supporters in the next four years, we're just gonna get Trump or Trump?

01:23:46.000 You know what makes sense.

01:23:47.000 We're gonna get someone even if the left thought Trump was crazy we're gonna get someone even way more more radical.

01:23:53.000 My biggest thing I actually wanted to ask you guys now that we're all here is do you think that the media just pays attention and gives too much story to these fringe Actors.

01:24:02.000 And the reason I would say that, um, Tim, cause last time I was on here, it was, I believe we just came off one of the presidential debates and we were even talking about it in the show.

01:24:10.000 We were like, we were like, why would they even mention the Proud Boys?

01:24:12.000 We have people that are dying in this pandemic.

01:24:15.000 We're, you know, we're giving them too much attention.

01:24:16.000 And like I said, on the left media, it seems like any, anytime we have, uh, you know, anything, uh, regarding the right wing stuff, the Proud Boys are the easy scapegoat.

01:24:26.000 But then same thing on the right.

01:24:28.000 If any violence breaks out, Antifa is a scapegoat.

01:24:31.000 It's like, This is the interesting thing to me when it comes to news and conflict and crisis.

01:24:36.000 You have the left, which has full control of cultural institutions, complaining about fringe groups of a couple thousand people as if it's the end of the world.

01:24:44.000 And I'm just like sitting here like, well, I mean, the billions of dollars in damage and destruction and, you know, havoc that was reaped upon regular people came from the left.

01:24:54.000 The Proud Boys, sure, you can criticize them, but why are these massive cultural institutions ignoring this?

01:25:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:04.000 Why?

01:25:04.000 I guess the way I'm putting it, I'm trying to, I look at it as...

01:25:07.000 Should I really be concerned about a group of a few thousand people who, you know, talk smack on the internet and go around and march and get drunk and then sometimes fight Antifa?

01:25:15.000 Or should I be worried about the thousands of people that are being praised by mainstream media who are being propped up by leftists and they're comparing them to the soldiers storming the beaches of Normandy?

01:25:25.000 That's scary to me.

01:25:27.000 They ignore it.

01:25:28.000 It's not a left or right issue.

01:25:29.000 I guess the left likes their insurgents.

01:25:32.000 It's the same thing with the BLM movement.

01:25:36.000 If we want to get to the root of the problem and we and we think that black lives matter 1.00

01:25:40.000 then all suffering as as a result of any violence should be something that's deemed as bad.

01:25:47.000 Right.

01:25:48.000 And so it's the same thing.

01:25:49.000 It's like instead of addressing the full problem you just choose this scapegoat.

01:25:52.000 That's really easy.

01:25:53.000 Oh police.

01:25:54.000 You know OK. 1.00

01:25:55.000 It's all police all cops are bastards. 1.00

01:25:57.000 That's easy. 1.00

01:25:59.000 That's why, you know, they'll lump anybody who disagrees with them in right wing.

01:26:04.000 They'll say they're all right wing or they're conservative or far right.

01:26:06.000 I think it was, I think the Young Turks called me right wing, which is hilarious. 1.00

01:26:10.000 I disagree with you on when you support violence on right wing.

01:26:14.000 I actually agree with them on like a lot of domestic policy and economic policy.

01:26:19.000 So right wing and left wing are completely meaningless.

01:26:21.000 But this is it for me.

01:26:22.000 I'm not a right-wing person.

01:26:23.000 I've actually had people DMing me and they're like, I can see the leftists.

01:26:25.000 And like, I talk about economic policy and stuff like that, especially.

01:26:28.000 And like, my issue is, when I take an objective look at the media and what's going on, come on.

01:26:34.000 It's obvious when they went out and they marched in the thousands.

01:26:38.000 And then it was, I think it was University of Colorado said, Black Lives Matter protests actually slowed the spread of COVID.

01:26:43.000 It's like, are you kidding me, dude? 0.95

01:26:46.000 Come on, any sane, rational person sees that's ridiculous.

01:26:49.000 But they all had masks on, even though there were like 10,000 of them going into a space.

01:26:55.000 They weren't wearing masks.

01:26:57.000 It's impossible.

01:26:58.000 No, no.

01:26:59.000 But look, when that was going on earlier in the year, they weren't wearing masks.

01:27:03.000 Then later on, they started saying wear masks.

01:27:03.000 Yeah.

01:27:06.000 But then we saw them celebrate Biden, take the mask off, drink champagne.

01:27:09.000 So they're calling everyone right-wing, but what you're really getting is regular people who just see how absurd the news has become, and they're just like, okay, that's fake.

01:27:19.000 And they say, well, then you must be right-wing.

01:27:21.000 That's exactly where I fall.

01:27:22.000 I voted for Obama twice, but now all of a sudden, you know... You tell the truth and you're right-wing.

01:27:26.000 Interestingly, you know, I want to mention this too, you guys were both in Kenosha as well, huh?

01:27:30.000 Yeah.

01:27:30.000 Isn't that great?

01:27:31.000 You guys are like some of the most consequential journalists having been on the ground at some of the biggest moments of this past year.

01:27:36.000 Yeah, it feels weird just, uh... Where's your Pulitzer, huh?

01:27:41.000 I'm not sitting here and being like, you guys get an award and all that, but seriously, of the journalists we've seen, what do we get?

01:27:47.000 The Pulitzers go to the people who just rag on Trump.

01:27:49.000 Cuomo deserved that.

01:27:51.000 The Emmy.

01:27:51.000 He deserved it.

01:27:53.000 He got the Emmy.

01:27:54.000 Whatever.

01:27:55.000 Oh yeah, Cuomo gets the Emmy.

01:27:57.000 He got a shiny thing.

01:27:58.000 Yeah, he gets the Emmy and he's like writing a book and he's a New York Times bestseller for handling the crisis.

01:28:04.000 It's insane, but Yeah, I mean it's just been it's been an insane journey just kind of been able to be you know Documenting on the on the front lines of a lot of these kind of historic moments And I mean it all really kicked off.

01:28:18.000 You know that George, Florida.

01:28:19.000 I believe it was May May 28 yeah the footage gets released and The whole world you know just turn turn upside down I do want to mention, it looks like KRON 4 has removed the article about the officer dying.

01:28:32.000 What?

01:28:32.000 Yeah, it's gone.

01:28:33.000 So the article that we had pulled up, you can see, if you pull it up, the URL says, U.S.

01:28:38.000 Capitol Police officer dies after violent protests, bringing death toll to five is the URL.

01:28:41.000 And now it says, the page you are looking for cannot be found.

01:28:44.000 Maybe he didn't die.

01:28:45.000 The media posted fake news and we all fell for it, but I'll tell you something.

01:28:49.000 I think that guy is injured though, the guy who got hit, and I think he's in very critical condition.

01:28:54.000 If Matt Gaetz comes out and says, you know, oh look Antifa was actually down there, they boo him, they say it's fake news, all that, let's come out and say it's fake news.

01:29:02.000 Okay, I won't use it.

01:29:03.000 Now we actually have a reporter from KUTV saying here's a BLM leftist who was actually storming the Capitol.

01:29:07.000 It's like, oh okay, so there's some truth to this.

01:29:11.000 The mainstream media can put out this big story.

01:29:13.000 We're told we have to accept them as being right, and here we are in real time.

01:29:17.000 They were wrong.

01:29:18.000 We opened this show with this big news of an officer dying because we trusted the mainstream media.

01:29:23.000 So how do we navigate this?

01:29:25.000 Well, I think that what we were talking about earlier about basically being able to scapegoat that kind of smaller group that's easier to put in a box, that's what happened after this.

01:29:37.000 Nobody wants to address the fact that these people, regardless of who they were, are angry about the results of the election.

01:29:45.000 So those people that we saw battling cops, was every single one Antifa?

01:29:50.000 I literally saw hundreds of people battling with cops. 0.92

01:29:53.000 Calling them all QAnon supporters is just ridiculous. 0.93

01:29:58.000 It's completely insane. 0.71

01:29:59.000 And that takes away the real reasons why they're mad, which is they've been locked down for six months, and then they feel that the election was taken from them.

01:30:07.000 What if the reality is just that it was predominantly Trump supporters, but there's probably a decent spattering of leftists who joined in because they just don't like the government?

01:30:15.000 What if what we're actually gonna start seeing is general populist revolt?

01:30:19.000 It doesn't matter if you're right or left.

01:30:21.000 Clearly this guy who stormed the Capitol building, this BLM guy, is not a right winger. 0.94

01:30:25.000 What was he doing there?

01:30:26.000 Why?

01:30:27.000 And why wasn't he fighting with the right?

01:30:29.000 He was actually along with them.

01:30:31.000 It's capitalizing on the chaos, just like the looters, you know?

01:30:33.000 They're not protesting anything, they just want to get a free TV.

01:30:36.000 I think it might become outright establishment, you know, versus outsider populist, regardless of left or right.

01:30:42.000 I mean, we were talking about this just a few weeks ago on this show.

01:30:45.000 We were telling you there's a big political realignment.

01:30:48.000 A lot of people on the right are being disenfranchised with the back of the blue crowd.

01:30:52.000 The back of the blue crowd is becoming less and less significant.

01:30:55.000 More people are being disenfranchised.

01:30:57.000 What's going to happen when, again, these ingredients that we were talking about that led to this They're not being subsided.

01:31:03.000 They're being added upon.

01:31:05.000 And then what's going to happen moving forward when the conditions get worse?

01:31:09.000 The economic conditions are bound to get worse.

01:31:12.000 The lockdown conditions are bound to get worse.

01:31:15.000 The restrictiveness when it comes to people's freedoms and liberties are bound to get worse.

01:31:21.000 What happens when you keep pressuring more and more on a public?

01:31:25.000 And again, it's so frustrating because For years I've been calling it out for years I've been seeing it and everyone's like oh you're crazy you're just hyperbolic and I'm like no you guys don't understand the larger ramifications from what I've seen in my foreign foreign reporting to what happened to other countries.

01:31:45.000 That same thing is happening here, and again, it's just absolutely insane to see it happen in our backyard.

01:31:52.000 Also, very interestingly, the president of the Chicago Police Union actually came out with a statement pretty much going against all the other establishment kind of thinking around this, and he said that there was, quote, this is according to him, there was no arson, there was no burning of anything, there was no looting, there was very little destruction of property, There was a bunch of pissed off people that feel an election was stolen somehow, someway.

01:32:17.000 That's the official quote from the Chicago... There was looting, though.

01:32:19.000 Yes, there was.

01:32:20.000 There's pictures of guys actually stealing the podium.

01:32:23.000 Do you see the joke, though, where it's like the guy decided to finally take a stand?

01:32:28.000 Took a political stand, yes.

01:32:30.000 Literally and figuratively.

01:32:30.000 I love it.

01:32:32.000 But yet again, the thing we have to realize here, all the things that made this happen, they're still there.

01:32:38.000 They're only going to get worse.

01:32:39.000 And I think it is worth noting that while a couple of podiums were taken, at least that I saw or what I've seen reported, none of those precious works of art were intentionally vandalized.

01:32:49.000 It's just recklessness.

01:32:49.000 They were walking around the red rope, which is so fascinating.

01:32:52.000 People are like, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:32:54.000 They just stormed the Senate building, but they're walking.

01:32:56.000 Wasn't it Norm Macdonald who said that or whatever?

01:32:58.000 I don't know who.

01:33:00.000 There's the meme.

01:33:00.000 People are saying, I'm just fascinated with these people who stormed this building and they're walking in line.

01:33:05.000 Carefully, yeah.

01:33:05.000 Somebody tweeted, I love when our insurrectionist rioters carefully walk around the velvet rope.

01:33:11.000 You know, it was weird.

01:33:12.000 It was weird.

01:33:13.000 I think, you know, you see some of these videos and there were enough reckless, rambunctious individuals, but a decent amount of bumbling, you know, bewildered individuals.

01:33:23.000 Yeah, I want to ask you if, oh, I didn't mean to cut you off.

01:33:25.000 I was going to say there's rumors, I guess, that like people are taking hard drives out of computers or something.

01:33:29.000 I don't know if it's true or not.

01:33:30.000 I've seen the one where it was the guy who like posted up in Nancy Pelosi's office and he has an American flag.

01:33:35.000 Then there's like another footage of he's like outside and he has her mail. 0.95

01:33:38.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 0.70

01:33:39.000 He's like, I have Nancy Pelosi's mail! 0.99

01:33:40.000 I gotta go to prison.

01:33:42.000 But I was gonna ask, do you think we see something similar, maybe not the biggest that the same crowd, but something similar on January 20th on Inauguration Day?

01:33:51.000 Where?

01:33:52.000 The National Guard is being, uh, they're being kept deployed.

01:33:54.000 Right.

01:33:55.000 For the next 30 days or whatever.

01:33:55.000 I mean, there's a curfew for the next 15 days.

01:33:57.000 Wow.

01:33:57.000 Yeah.

01:33:58.000 In Washington, D.C.

01:33:59.000 6 p.m.?

01:34:00.000 Wow, man.

01:34:01.000 Now's a good time to leave town.

01:34:02.000 I'm very upset because, I'm very upset because after 6 p.m.

01:34:06.000 You can't get Uber Eats, so I can't get my McDonald's.

01:34:09.000 I got Uber Eats last night.

01:34:10.000 I got Uber Eats last night.

01:34:11.000 Oh, snap, really?

01:34:12.000 I couldn't get it last night.

01:34:13.000 It came from Virginia.

01:34:13.000 You gotta order it from the right place.

01:34:14.000 They said essential workers and delivery and stuff like that are okay.

01:34:17.000 I couldn't get it on my average.

01:34:18.000 And media.

01:34:19.000 It's a reduced hour.

01:34:19.000 You know what I love more than anything?

01:34:21.000 The media exemptions.

01:34:22.000 Essential.

01:34:23.000 How crazy.

01:34:24.000 Like these journalists get to like walk around, do whatever they want.

01:34:27.000 As long as you're your press card and you can just be like, I'm media.

01:34:29.000 Well, kind of until you get beat up by a cop.

01:34:32.000 If they do a curfew and you're walking around and a cop sees you back press where, you know, we're, we're covering everything.

01:34:37.000 We're here to report on what a good job you guys have done, keeping everything safe and secure.

01:34:41.000 And so we wanted to come out and just get some, some footage from our phone of showing you guys how this everything's safe.

01:34:45.000 So thank you officer.

01:34:46.000 And you keep walking.

01:34:47.000 That's what I tried to do, but all I could get in was, these are my credentials, yes sir!

01:34:50.000 Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. 1.00

01:34:52.000 It can go either way.

01:34:53.000 I'm talking about, it's 8pm, the streets are empty, and you as a journalist are like, I'm gonna go out and grab some food.

01:35:00.000 And so you walk outside and you're walking down the street, you're going to get your, you know, crispy Popeyes, chicken sandwich everybody loves, and there's a cop and he's like, hey, it's curfew, and you go, actually, I'm a journalist, here's my card, and they go, have a nice day, and they walk away.

01:35:12.000 Privilege Well, everyone else is locked in their house. 0.94

01:35:15.000 They can't leave Journalists are exempt but then you're I mean what really what you're doing is you're being a piece of crap because you're abusing your privilege So just like but there's no real like Rules that can keep a crappy person from taking advantage of stuff. 0.87

01:35:30.000 I mean in New York City I used my press cards to go to gala dinners because I was hungry sometimes. 0.98

01:35:35.000 Yeah You're a bad journalist.

01:35:38.000 Hey, it happened.

01:35:39.000 I admit it.

01:35:40.000 It wasn't ethical.

01:35:41.000 There's the inverse.

01:35:42.000 One time, Luke used a Huffington Post lunch card as a press pass, and it worked.

01:35:50.000 It was amazing.

01:35:51.000 Well, it said Huffington Post on it, so that makes sense.

01:35:55.000 And it said luncheon on it, and it didn't even say press, and I used it to sneak into events, and then we trained someone Wait, hold on, this is funny.

01:36:03.000 This is insane.

01:36:04.000 We went to an event, and we knew people at Huffington Post.

01:36:07.000 They gave us these cards where it was like luncheon, and you had to walk in and grab a sandwich and grab a drink.

01:36:11.000 But Luke kept his.

01:36:13.000 And there was a point where someone said, where's your press card?

01:36:15.000 And he just has this big, ridiculous-looking thing that says, Huffington Post Luncheon.

01:36:19.000 And the guy's like, oh, thank you. 0.72

01:36:21.000 Because they know what Huffington Post was, they were like, that must be it.

01:36:24.000 But the thing is, you didn't tell them to look at it.

01:36:27.000 No, no, no.

01:36:28.000 This is the thing.

01:36:28.000 You don't even have to say anything.

01:36:30.000 It's just all about your confidence and your aura.

01:36:32.000 It's just like... What happened was you had a bunch of press cards on one lanyard.

01:36:38.000 And so the guy just took the biggest one and looked at Huffington Post and assumed, like, must be good to me.

01:36:42.000 And Luke's like, I don't know, whatever.

01:36:44.000 It says lunch on it.

01:36:45.000 What are you doing?

01:36:45.000 That's when I interviewed Arianna Huffington and she wanted me to work for the Huffington Post.

01:36:51.000 Breitbart did.

01:36:52.000 But after I interviewed her, she was very, very disappointed and very shocked to learn the questions that I threw at her about honest media.

01:37:02.000 To learn that you had been using her lunch card.

01:37:04.000 I mean, there's a ton of stories that we could share.

01:37:08.000 Also, does anyone else find it weird that the establishment went from, you know, defund the police to, we need more police, we need more arrests, in just a matter of seconds when it would fit in their narrative?

01:37:19.000 I mean, can anyone just call that out as being... How perfect was it?

01:37:26.000 that for a year they're saying defund the police and the democrats defend it saying it just means reallocate funds and then as soon as biden wins they're like we need police where the police and the left is in agreement surprise and there's no pushback and there's no voices dissenting there's no people saying hey hey what about what we were campaigning for what about what we were fighting for what about all the protests that we had about this very specific issue and now we're pro-police state because it fits us because we're in power and they're going to be using that power And the inverse is true as well, that it's funny that all of a sudden Trump supporters are like, oh, these cops!

01:38:00.000 I'm so mad!

01:38:01.000 Well, they're burning the back of the blue flag.

01:38:03.000 So that's also another huge kind of political transformation that's worth noting, because there's going to be disenfranchised leftists who are still going to be on that messaging, who are still going to believe in defunding that police, that are going to be looking at them in a favorable way.

01:38:20.000 He's not defund.

01:38:21.000 Biden's not defunding the police.

01:38:22.000 He's just funding a bunch of armed social workers to enforce lockdowns. 1.00

01:38:26.000 Well, someone tweeted something really hilarious about what went down.

01:38:29.000 I think I retweeted it.

01:38:30.000 They said in response, they were like, after watching what went on in the Capitol, it's more obvious than ever that we need to get rid of all the Capitol police and replace them with social workers.

01:38:39.000 That's a really good point.

01:38:40.000 People were saying the protest was mainly peaceful as well.

01:38:44.000 Mostly peaceful.

01:38:44.000 I mean, truth be told, it was mostly peaceful.

01:38:47.000 There was no fire.

01:38:48.000 It was mostly peaceful.

01:38:49.000 300 or so people out of hundreds of thousands went in the building, right?

01:38:52.000 That's like, what, 99.9% peaceful? 0.99

01:38:55.000 I'm not gonna play stupid games, though. 1.00

01:38:56.000 The people who stormed the Capitol set the stage and it was dumb. 0.99

01:39:00.000 And when you get the same thing with Antifa and they're burning buildings down... Look, this is what I say about Antifa. 0.79

01:39:05.000 If you've got a bunch of people standing out front of the federal building throwing fireworks and explosives and the peaceful protesters are like, well, I'm being peaceful, but I'm not going to stop him.

01:39:13.000 I'm like, dude, you need to leave or you need to stand up.

01:39:15.000 It's day 95.

01:39:16.000 Right.

01:39:17.000 Exactly.

01:39:17.000 We know what's going to happen here.

01:39:19.000 But I'm being peaceful.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 And you're and the guy's hiding behind you and the cop is looking for who threw it and they don't do anything about it.

01:39:25.000 So it's look, man, I think one of the biggest issues we have as a society is that individual groups don't hold their own accountable.

01:39:31.000 Cops don't want to hold other cops accountable. 0.93

01:39:33.000 Protesters don't want to hold other protestors accountable.

01:39:35.000 They want each other held accountable, but they won't do it themselves.

01:39:37.000 So we've seen more than enough instances where there's like a cop who breaks the law and then his partner lies for him.

01:39:43.000 I've seen it in New York.

01:39:44.000 We saw that story where the cop shoots the guy in the back.

01:39:46.000 It was back in like North Carolina. 0.92

01:39:48.000 The guy was like, they're trying to arrest this black dude.

01:39:50.000 He runs away. 0.62

01:39:51.000 Cop shoots him and then his partner lied for him.

01:39:53.000 So these things happen. 0.99

01:39:54.000 Again, I'm not stupid enough to say all cops. 0.98

01:39:56.000 I'm just saying when that happens, you got to be like, He did it. 0.96

01:39:59.000 Well, the fourth estate has to be like that.

01:40:01.000 Right.

01:40:02.000 And that's the role of the media.

01:40:03.000 And now the media, yeah, they can look out after their own.

01:40:06.000 But as one media, you know, journalists should have the right to free speech and to report on after curfew, etc.

01:40:13.000 But right now we're in a situation where if you're not if you don't think like me and you're a journalist, then you are the enemy.

01:40:20.000 And so that's the one institution that's supposed to keep the other ones in check, and it's not happening.

01:40:25.000 Not just the enemy. 0.97

01:40:25.000 They'll beat the crap out of you. 0.97

01:40:26.000 If you report on an event that is happening, and you report on it honestly, if someone doesn't like that truth, they'll beat the crap out of you. 0.82

01:40:34.000 And in some places, you could even face worse consequences with governments going after you.

01:40:39.000 And this is the kind of bigger worrying that is in my stomach, because just reporting on the truth is detrimental.

01:40:48.000 And that's the stage that we're in right now.

01:40:50.000 Actually, you are here.

01:40:51.000 Yeah.

01:40:51.000 Well, yeah.

01:40:52.000 Luke, you always got these great shirts.

01:40:54.000 I know, on point, man.

01:40:55.000 So it's 1984, Brave New World, Ray Bradbury 451, and it's a Venn diagram.

01:40:59.000 It's a Venn diagram.

01:41:01.000 Collage.

01:41:02.000 Well, they're not burning books.

01:41:04.000 They're just deleting tweets.

01:41:05.000 Yeah, same thing.

01:41:08.000 But it's true, you got the drugs to keep you happy, you got the censorship from the government and the big tech, and you've got the big police state boot.

01:41:16.000 You are here, right here in the middle.

01:41:18.000 Pretty much, welcome.

01:41:19.000 A little bit of everything, a little bit of everything.

01:41:20.000 Sprinkle a little into your foot here, a little bread roll here.

01:41:22.000 What a time to be alive.

01:41:23.000 This is history, man.

01:41:25.000 This is, you know... Great.

01:41:28.000 Yeah, I know.

01:41:28.000 You know what I think?

01:41:29.000 I think we all, many of us, many people who are watching, I know that you're all between the ages of 25 and 34.

01:41:35.000 That's true.

01:41:37.000 That's like 30% of the audience.

01:41:39.000 And the rest, it's typically 18 to 54.

01:41:41.000 There's a big chunk in the middle.

01:41:43.000 We grew up in a golden age, man.

01:41:45.000 Where everything was kind of chill.

01:41:46.000 I mean, we had 9-11, we had war.

01:41:48.000 Everybody got trophies, too.

01:41:49.000 Right, exactly.

01:41:50.000 It was like we played video games.

01:41:52.000 We lived comfortably.

01:41:53.000 I mean, go to another country, and you'll see how comfortable America has it.

01:41:58.000 Isn't that kind of the reason why we're seeing all this, though, on both sides, is that we were kind of the first generation of Americans who were, like, promised more than we would get, and then we're, like, the kid who doesn't get the cool toy?

01:42:10.000 Yes, maybe, but I think it's really about, like, We're spoiled rich kids.

01:42:15.000 America is like the super spoiled rich kid.

01:42:17.000 It's like the sweet 16 who's like, you got me a Ferrari?

01:42:21.000 I wanted a Lamborghini!

01:42:24.000 That's what I think.

01:42:25.000 I'm like, man, clean running water.

01:42:27.000 Some places have laws where they have to give you water if you ask for it.

01:42:30.000 Like if you're, I think in Arizona they do that.

01:42:32.000 If you walk in and say, I'd like water, they have to give it to you.

01:42:34.000 Cause it's like, you know, arid and people get dehydrated and stuff.

01:42:36.000 We got, you know, the port, we have, I'm not saying this to be mean, but we have overweight homeless people.

01:42:43.000 Like something's going on.

01:42:45.000 Admittedly, we have a weird imbalance if we can't get a home to somebody but we can overfeed them so we can figure some of these problems out.

01:42:52.000 But that's saying something.

01:42:53.000 I've been to some countries where you've got homeless, starving people.

01:42:57.000 So I think we get a generation, millennials, who have been raised with the utmost comfort and privilege and they're now being told that they were going to be rock stars and millionaires and celebrities and they're mad they want more they want something else and they don't realize that you can just go do it you know but but i i think the issue is

01:43:18.000 What do they want?

01:43:19.000 They want everything.

01:43:20.000 They want more.

01:43:20.000 They want more than they have.

01:43:21.000 And, you know, when it comes to the issues of, like, healthcare, for instance, I'm totally down with, you know, providing a basic level of coverage for all people.

01:43:29.000 Like, you break your arm, you go to the doctor, they'll fix your arm.

01:43:31.000 But if you get a more serious illness, we might not have a cure for that.

01:43:34.000 This I didn't realize.

01:43:36.000 I've had arguments with leftists about universal health care, and I say, how do you deal with like, you know, an extremely rare genetic disease where the treatment, the cure exists, but it's a million dollars?

01:43:45.000 Because this is a real story.

01:43:46.000 It was in Louisiana.

01:43:47.000 The government refused to pay a million dollars for this extremely rare genetic disease treatment.

01:43:52.000 And I'm like, sometimes cures don't exist.

01:43:55.000 And you know, I've heard from a lot of people, they've argued back at me.

01:43:57.000 No, you're wrong.

01:43:57.000 Scarcity is not real.

01:43:59.000 And I'm like, we haven't invented the cures to every, we haven't cured cancer.

01:44:02.000 There's so many cancers we have very little effective treatments for.

01:44:05.000 But they just believe that you can snap your fingers and give it to somebody.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, it's a technology.

01:44:08.000 Drugs are technologies.

01:44:10.000 And it takes an incredible amount of money to develop them.

01:44:12.000 And so that's, you know, so I feel like there's a lot of people who think we deserve to have healthcare.

01:44:18.000 And I'm like, okay, I agree.

01:44:20.000 I like the idea.

01:44:21.000 You know, I like the fire department.

01:44:22.000 I like the police department.

01:44:23.000 They don't like the police departments.

01:44:24.000 I don't know how you solve that problem.

01:44:26.000 You want universal security.

01:44:27.000 Well, then, you know, get it, I guess.

01:44:29.000 So they want universal healthcare, and I'm like, how do you deal with the fact that there will always be an issue, I think, for the most part, we're struggling to solve in terms of treating human beings?

01:44:38.000 Long story short, we are living safer and healthier, if we choose, than ever before.

01:44:45.000 We have antiseptics, we have antibiotics, we have tons of antibiotics.

01:44:48.000 We can do organ transplants.

01:44:50.000 Think about someone 100 years ago.

01:44:52.000 They'd stub their toe and get a little cut and go, well, I guess I'm gonna die.

01:44:54.000 Cut the foot off.

01:44:56.000 And we have all of this wonder and privilege and wealth.

01:44:59.000 It's one of the best times ever.

01:45:00.000 And there are people who are angry and complaining and refuse.

01:45:03.000 And so, I think in the long run, that fighting ultimately leads to them having it worse than ever.

01:45:07.000 Yeah.

01:45:07.000 I mean, historically, we are living in one of the best times in recorded human history, especially when it comes to access to clean drinking water, especially when it comes to access to food, education, quality of life.

01:45:17.000 All those things are skyrocketing up.

01:45:19.000 But when it comes to our mental health, we are declining abruptly in such a scale that it's insurmountable.

01:45:28.000 And the solution by the system is just throw SSRIs.

01:45:31.000 And again, I don't even want to get into that debate, but there is a correlation.

01:45:35.000 It doesn't mean it improves causation, but there is a correlation between the rise of social media and the decline of America's mental health. 0.98

01:45:42.000 There's also a lot of fat asses out there, so that complicates the whole medical debate out there. 0.99

01:45:47.000 But again, this is why I've been stressing censorship, social media, the people who have the voices that are influencing us the most, the algorithms, the timelines, the things that you are shoved. 0.98

01:45:58.000 To be a consumer the thing that you are groomed to be the ... thing that you were programmed to buy the very ... special interest to be is something that is detrimental ... for you and people need to realize it sooner before later ... because this mental health decline.

01:46:13.000 is leading to a lot of mentally unstable people. 1.00

01:46:16.000 And when you have a whole bunch of sick, lazy, fat, incompetent, crazy, dumb people, 1.00

01:46:23.000 this is another recipe in that big pile of crap that I keep describing. 1.00

01:46:29.000 And again, we could keep throwing it in there, but we could all see it's there 0.98

01:46:32.000 and there's no way of cleaning it out.

01:46:34.000 Self-sufficiency, man.

01:46:35.000 And then, Tim, since we're on this subject, I think it's really unique.

01:46:39.000 Like, for me, you know, both of my parents are from El Salvador.

01:46:42.000 We're in the Civil War, so I always actually grew up with my dad just beating into my head of, like, we are already so rich.

01:46:51.000 We're already so lucky to already be in the U.S.

01:46:53.000 So, like, I always grew up with that, like, Appreciation for like what we had so I think that was kind of a unique Perspective to grow up with immigrant parents and getting that and then yet, you know, my parents were like in the Civil War So they really made me appreciate everything here So I think for me that was like an undercover blessing of like we you know I never felt like we ever we ever took things for granted even right now.

01:47:14.000 I'm still like oh Oh man, I'm not supposed to be here.

01:47:16.000 I could have been in like an MS-13 right now.

01:47:19.000 But I mean, I'd be interested to even hear from more kids who are immigrant parents compared to just American kids of how they feel.

01:47:24.000 I could have been in Poland, slob squatting. 1.00

01:47:27.000 And again, you brought up an important thing.

01:47:29.000 I was brought up also by immigrant parents that brought me here to the United States.

01:47:32.000 They were saying the same thing.

01:47:34.000 You don't understand how lucky you have to have so much freedom here.

01:47:37.000 When you were in Poland, it was during the Soviet Union.

01:47:39.000 Yeah, I was born at the decline of the Soviet Union.

01:47:42.000 I was still born into the Soviet Union, and my parents fled.

01:47:46.000 My dad specifically left and said, this is bullcrap.

01:47:49.000 I don't like communism. 0.97

01:47:50.000 I don't want my kid growing up in communism.

01:47:52.000 I want the freedom that's portrayed in movies.

01:47:55.000 I want to be in the mecca of it.

01:47:57.000 I want to be in the center of it.

01:47:58.000 He chose New York City, and he's having a hard time leaving that place, even though I keep telling him, I'm like, man, dude, you don't understand.

01:48:04.000 You need to leave that place, but he still is envisioned by like, this is the country that saved me from communism, that saved me from a totalitarian government that would throw people in jail, torture them, or execute them because their political opinions were different than the state.

01:48:20.000 That's something that people don't realize is a huge threat of happening right now in the United States, and unless we fight, I guess we Stand up and understand what's happening and actually at least raise our voices. 0.58

01:48:32.000 We're screwed.

01:48:33.000 This is our trajectory. 0.99

01:48:34.000 This is where we're going.

01:48:35.000 Leftist governments that are left unchecked and have no accountability historically always get completely out of hand.

01:48:42.000 That's the story of Poland. 0.75

01:48:43.000 That's the story of the USSR. 0.93

01:48:45.000 That's the story of so many people who have suffered tremendously because there was no checks on power.

01:48:52.000 There was no accountability.

01:48:53.000 There was no one contesting a government and now we're in a position where Again, I mean, do I even have to point it out what's happening right now with the corporations, the mainstream media, and the government all in unison saying, more power for us and less for you because we know what's better for you, and they don't.

01:49:11.000 And more of your money.

01:49:12.000 But we should go to Super Chats and start taking some questions from the comments.

01:49:17.000 So, uh, let's see what everybody has to say.

01:49:18.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

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01:49:28.000 And if you're not, make sure you check them out and, you know, follow us there, too, because it really does help.

01:49:33.000 But let's see what we got here.

01:49:34.000 Let's see.

01:49:35.000 Dragon Hunt says, so when is that I'm a gorilla shirt going live?

01:49:39.000 I don't know, but soon.

01:49:41.000 And I believe the graphic is almost done and it's just a gorilla and he's like, you know, hitting his fist together saying, I'm a gorilla and that's it.

01:49:46.000 And that's the joke.

01:49:48.000 And then another one says, I'm a gorilla.

01:49:49.000 Love yourself.

01:49:50.000 Because we want to be positive.

01:49:51.000 You know, I'm going to be positive about this.

01:49:53.000 Yeah.

01:49:54.000 Valentine's Day.

01:49:54.000 Benjamin says, no Ian, no peace.

01:49:57.000 Yes, Ian is on for the night.

01:49:59.000 No Ian, no peace. 0.99

01:50:01.000 No racist ass police. 0.99

01:50:04.000 He's in the house. 0.99

01:50:04.000 Well, there's no cops stopping him. 0.99

01:50:07.000 We gotta think of a good rhyme for the second verse.

01:50:10.000 No Federal Reserve.

01:50:12.000 Quantitative Ease.

01:50:14.000 What's that metal that he's obsessed with?

01:50:16.000 Graphene.

01:50:17.000 Definitely go check out Ian at Ian Crossland.

01:50:21.000 Yeah, he's chillin'.

01:50:23.000 We got another one.

01:50:23.000 No Ian, no peace.

01:50:24.000 He gets a night off.

01:50:25.000 Yeah, come on guys.

01:50:26.000 Yeah, I think by now he probably would have brought the Federal Reserve several times.

01:50:31.000 Can someone super chat the second verse of that for Ian?

01:50:34.000 No Ian, no peace, no quantitative ease.

01:50:36.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:50:37.000 That's pretty good.

01:50:38.000 That's what the Federal Reserve does, they print the money.

01:50:40.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:50:42.000 All right, so this is an interesting question.

01:50:43.000 Crystal Mac says, Tim, what in the world is going on in that video of Pence getting a coin and rubbing elbows with Nancy Pelosi?

01:50:50.000 If not today, maybe soon.

01:50:51.000 Thank you.

01:50:52.000 So they have these things.

01:50:54.000 I forgot what are they called?

01:50:55.000 Challenge coins.

01:50:56.000 Challenge coins.

01:50:56.000 That's right.

01:50:57.000 And in the photo of Nancy Pelosi's office, you can actually see she has a rack of them.

01:51:01.000 Challenge coins, they're just commemorative coins made by groups that commemorate them.

01:51:05.000 So I think someone gave me a Donald Trump challenge coin.

01:51:08.000 Yeah, law enforcement has a lot of them.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, aren't they just like trinkets?

01:51:11.000 Yeah, I got an Air Force One one from a journalist.

01:51:14.000 So basically it's like a little coin and it'll say like Air Force, it'll have an eagle on it and it'll say like, you know, USAF or whatever.

01:51:21.000 One I got was like Donald Trump and it said, Inauguration of the President, 45, 2017 or whatever.

01:51:26.000 And it was like a picture of the American flag on it or something.

01:51:28.000 That's all it is.

01:51:30.000 I'm pretty sure, have you seen the video of Pence?

01:51:32.000 I haven't seen it, no.

01:51:33.000 He shakes someone's hand and then he looks in his hand and he's got a coin and then he puts it in his pocket and he like smiles and nods.

01:51:37.000 It's probably just a challenge coin.

01:51:38.000 Maybe it's like a Clinton Foundation challenge coin.

01:51:40.000 Ooh, yeah.

01:51:41.000 Probably.

01:51:42.000 No doubt.

01:51:43.000 Welcome to the club.

01:51:44.000 This one will get you to the island.

01:51:47.000 Look, there's a whole bunch of them.

01:51:49.000 I've seen journalists collect them because, like, I know a lot of journalists, they'll go to events and they'll ask the cop, do you guys have challenge coins?

01:51:56.000 Yeah, I got a couple coins.

01:51:57.000 Then they'll get, like, you know, Fort Lauderdale police or something.

01:51:59.000 Do you have any, Tim?

01:52:01.000 Me?

01:52:01.000 Yeah.

01:52:01.000 Yeah, I said I got like a Trump one somewhere.

01:52:02.000 Oh yeah, okay.

01:52:03.000 So when I was, uh, I can't remember where I was at.

01:52:06.000 I was at a Trump rally.

01:52:07.000 Someone gave me an inauguration coin.

01:52:09.000 It's probably in a box somewhere.

01:52:10.000 I didn't know what it was.

01:52:11.000 I was like, what is it?

01:52:12.000 Is it a coin?

01:52:12.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah, it's just basically a piece of art.

01:52:15.000 It's a metal thing.

01:52:15.000 You put it on a rack or whatever.

01:52:17.000 Yeah, it's a collector's item.

01:52:19.000 Or let's see, Gentleman's Tuck says, the guy died of a stroke.

01:52:22.000 It could have just as easily happened to him taking a dump.

01:52:25.000 Good point!

01:52:26.000 Yeah, heart attacks definitely do when you're taking it in.

01:52:28.000 Is there any tear gas in the toilet?

01:52:31.000 Because that could definitely like elevate your heart rate a little bit.

01:52:33.000 So this is an interesting one.

01:52:35.000 Soul Invicta says, Tim says that violence achieves nothing, that fifth generational warfare is all in the mind, and yet Antifa's been violent getting their way, Dems violent getting their way, the entirety of the human race throughout its history violent getting their way.

01:52:47.000 Okay, and I'm gonna debunk that, right?

01:52:49.000 It's very simple.

01:52:50.000 Do it.

01:52:50.000 First of all, The generation of, uh, warfare generations evolve.

01:52:53.000 We went through stodgy, well, we went through, like, you know, general fighting.

01:52:56.000 We ended up with, like, people marching on a battlefield towards each other.

01:52:59.000 Then we get guerrilla warfare and tactics change.

01:53:02.000 And now the biggest, uh, you know, factor is cyber war, manipulation, influence campaigns.

01:53:07.000 And people say, oh, but Antifa does this.

01:53:10.000 Antifa gets violent, they get their way.

01:53:11.000 No, no, no, you're mistaken.

01:53:12.000 They're not getting their way because of violence.

01:53:14.000 They're getting their way because they, because the mainstream media, the controller of influence, Defends it, or covers it up.

01:53:20.000 When people saw what Black Lives Matter started doing after George Floyd died, their support went down, even though the media was saying peaceful protest.

01:53:28.000 So yes, I understand they're getting their way, but they're getting their way in many instances, not always.

01:53:32.000 They're getting it because they're being defended by those who control influence.

01:53:37.000 That's why I always say it.

01:53:39.000 The most effective protest is wearing a nice pair of slacks and a button-up shirt and shaking people's hands and smiling.

01:53:44.000 And it's why you get these politicians who have... You know, have you guys ever seen that movie, what is it called, Bullworth?

01:53:50.000 Where the politician just, like, snaps.

01:53:53.000 And then he's like, you know, they told me to wear a blue tie.

01:53:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:57.000 Basically... He gets cornrows.

01:53:59.000 Yeah, they're told what to wear, why to wear it.

01:54:03.000 They've structured everything perfectly because that's the effective way to garner influence from the people.

01:54:07.000 And when they do that, they grant their voice to you, which empowers them.

01:54:11.000 So look, Antifa goes out and does these things, but it's hurting them.

01:54:15.000 If Antifa went out and it was all peaceful protests, they'd have gained 10 times as much.

01:54:20.000 It is in spite of the violence that they're succeeding.

01:54:23.000 The media is covering up too much of it.

01:54:25.000 It doesn't work.

01:54:27.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:54:28.000 Let's just jump down for some more.

01:54:29.000 Well, that's why the mainstream media needs to hide it.

01:54:31.000 But don't you think that they kind of failed in doing that?

01:54:34.000 Yes and no, because it happened at such a larger scale that we don't even understand.

01:54:40.000 There was other journalists like Michael Tracy that went around the country and told us that the scale was far more severe than what is originally reported or even known.

01:54:49.000 Seriously, Michael Tracy got in a car and just drove to small towns and encountered places that no one has ever heard of and he was surprised to find there were riots there.

01:54:58.000 The media wasn't covering it.

01:55:00.000 They didn't care.

01:55:01.000 It didn't fit the national narrative.

01:55:03.000 And it's in spite of the violence.

01:55:05.000 If the protests were just peaceful mass marches, it would be... I'll put it this way.

01:55:12.000 I think the riots are going to be a stain on history.

01:55:15.000 And it's going to be recognized as very, you know, people died.

01:55:17.000 But imagine if it was just like millions of people across the country in various areas marching, and that was all it was.

01:55:23.000 It would be like a golden moment of history.

01:55:25.000 This big awakening of peaceful uprising.

01:55:27.000 Changes would have come.

01:55:29.000 But they've lost.

01:55:30.000 The support they had before George Floyd was 18% net.

01:55:34.000 After the riots, 8%.

01:55:36.000 It went down.

01:55:37.000 I'm telling you, man.

01:55:38.000 Times change, technology changes, and the information age is something very, very different.

01:55:43.000 It's no longer the era of, like, marching in a building and be like, the building's ours, therefore we're in charge of the government.

01:55:47.000 Doesn't work that way.

01:55:48.000 Well, everyone has phones, so eventually that information will get out, as long as you don't live in China. 0.99

01:55:53.000 You know what it could be, too?

01:55:54.000 If you go back hundreds of years, the reason taking the building meant you had the power is probably because the currency was in it, the hard gold, and the only way to get it was if someone gave it to you.

01:56:01.000 So you couldn't trade, and so they're in the building, they're armed, okay, I'll do what you say, just give me gold.

01:56:05.000 Now it's all digital through your phone.

01:56:07.000 Take the building, my phone, my paycheck still went through it.

01:56:09.000 Well, the documents, the records, if you took the building, you had everything that happened beforehand.

01:56:15.000 Alright, let's see.

01:56:16.000 Jordan Reynolds says, Tim, let's be honest.

01:56:18.000 Our entire upper echelon of politicians are corrupt on both sides.

01:56:21.000 Only a few patriots exist in our government.

01:56:24.000 They are a dying breed.

01:56:25.000 How do we push forward when everything we say is out of context and being controlled?

01:56:29.000 I don't have all the answers, man.

01:56:32.000 I have a I have a semi short answer for that, which is like having been in D.C.

01:56:37.000 for 12 years, I think what I was most surprised at working at NBC was that there was this institution of media that was built up around, you know, Bill Clinton started the White House press briefing.

01:56:47.000 And then if you wanted to be a good reporter who got questions in that briefing, then you better not ask Jay Carney a question that, you know, will get you blackballed the next time.

01:56:54.000 So if that happens over the course of 40 years, then you get this symbiotic relationship, and the media who's supposed to put these corrupt politicians in check are themselves basically throwing them a bone.

01:57:06.000 I think the reality is, look, there's a gigantic machine.

01:57:10.000 The way I described it to Occupy people back in the day was, you've got a giant skyscraper.

01:57:15.000 And every day, 300 million people are building it bigger and bigger.

01:57:19.000 And you're at the base complaining about it, and there's a lot wrong with it, and you're trying to knock it down with a ball-peen hammer.

01:57:25.000 I don't know necessarily what the answer is, but perhaps the answer is to just walk away from the building and go find shelter somewhere else.

01:57:31.000 Maybe the reality is, what we should do is vote with our dollars.

01:57:35.000 Don't support big companies like Amazon and Walmart.

01:57:38.000 Do what you can to support mom-and-pop shops, especially right now.

01:57:41.000 If you can, it might not be possible.

01:57:42.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:57:44.000 But then, if you can't, be more self-sufficient.

01:57:46.000 Try and figure out how to be more sustainable.

01:57:50.000 Don't run to the store to desperately buy toilet paper at Walmart.

01:57:54.000 Just figure out a way to, you know, deal with that in some non-fighting-with-people-in-Walmart over toilet paper.

01:58:00.000 Maybe the idea is to move out of the cities, learn how to farm, get a place in the middle.

01:58:06.000 I mean, so many people are doing this, getting away from these cities, going to the suburbs.

01:58:10.000 I think the big thing that needs to happen, what people don't realize, it all starts with you.

01:58:14.000 You know, you got to clean your room before you try and change the world.

01:58:17.000 All right, Jordan Peterson.

01:58:17.000 But it was a good point.

01:58:18.000 No, I totally, I mean, I say that all the time.

01:58:21.000 So think about it this way.

01:58:23.000 Imagine if every single person right now who's upset with the system said, I'm not going to participate.

01:58:27.000 I'm gonna go do my thing.

01:58:29.000 We're gonna go set up our own, you know, like, go to Wyoming, go to West Virginia, go to Idaho, go to Nebraska, and just find open land and just get back to basics.

01:58:38.000 Stop relying so much on the system and its comforts and realize, like, we live in this super elite air-conditioned clean water privilege and we can probably do better.

01:58:47.000 And that's a win-win for everybody.

01:58:49.000 I think the challenge arises when people are like, I'm used to the comfort level that I have now, but we're in a golden age.

01:58:55.000 You know, so for me, and maybe it's just me, I'll tell you this.

01:58:58.000 I've been homeless.

01:59:00.000 I've slept in cars before.

01:59:01.000 I could be, you know, just in my van down by the river, happy.

01:59:05.000 With the experience, just chilling.

01:59:07.000 Just in a van down by the river, go fishing.

01:59:09.000 You know, it's my freedom that I get most of my value from.

01:59:12.000 Now I understand if you have a family, it's probably much more difficult to just say, you know, to do it.

01:59:17.000 So the issue ultimately is...

01:59:19.000 There's probably no good answer.

01:59:21.000 I certainly think stop voting.

01:59:24.000 Stop voting for Democrat, Republican, and vote for politicians who reflect your values.

01:59:29.000 Sometimes it's a Republican.

01:59:29.000 It really is.

01:59:31.000 You've got Rand Paul.

01:59:32.000 I think he's very libertarian, but he's in the Republican Party.

01:59:34.000 You've got politicians who run in that party.

01:59:37.000 And so you vote for him.

01:59:38.000 But maybe it's just, you know, I've always been an advocate of voting for the person you believe in, not just Democrat or Republican.

01:59:45.000 It's how you end up in this mess, like you said.

01:59:47.000 It just creates this system over time where a symbiotic relationship emerges.

01:59:50.000 And maybe the reality is we've spent 40 years getting into this situation, and it's going to take 40 years to get out.

01:59:56.000 And it starts with you saying, I'm not going to vote for the Republicans or the Democrats.

02:00:00.000 I'm going to vote third party or fourth party or fifth.

02:00:02.000 I'm going to vote for the name, the write-in, the person I believe in.

02:00:06.000 And they might not win, but for me, I don't care.

02:00:08.000 Kanye West is the answer.

02:00:10.000 Vote for some vote for the Democrat or Republican because you fear one of the other in my opinion is a wasted vote

02:00:16.000 Cuz look what you get now look what you get now the Democrats control everything. Congratulations

02:00:19.000 The system isn't gonna work this way forever and you just need to go vote

02:00:23.000 Stop voting for the lesser of two evils and stop depending on other people to solve your problems

02:00:28.000 I think that's the biggest one.

02:00:29.000 Now, you said you would be happy if you'd be down by the river in a van.

02:00:33.000 I'd be happy with a press credential.

02:00:34.000 I'll eat good.

02:00:35.000 That's all I need.

02:00:36.000 But it's because of people's temperament.

02:00:38.000 It's your attitude that essentially matters.

02:00:40.000 And I think you taking your life back and understanding that it's in your control, in your hands, your actions dictate every single thing.

02:00:48.000 Your imagination is the creation of you.

02:00:52.000 When you start understanding the true power you have and start living it, then everything magically happens.

02:00:58.000 You were mentioning the flow state.

02:00:59.000 I mean, that's something that I've been studying, looking into, and many people look at it as the key to success and their prosperity.

02:01:07.000 And if you don't know what that is, just look into it yourself.

02:01:09.000 Check out some books.

02:01:10.000 There's a lot of books.

02:01:11.000 Think and Grow Rich.

02:01:12.000 That's a good one too.

02:01:16.000 That's what Hegel called it was Dasein, which is like when you're in your work state and you're like doing that, which you were put on earth to do.

02:01:22.000 Like putting food on your table for your family through whatever job, but it's Dasein.

02:01:27.000 Interesting.

02:01:28.000 I think we got to get back to being independent and self-sufficient.

02:01:32.000 Like you just said, Luke, you know, stop relying on other people.

02:01:34.000 Mike Cernovich had an interesting quote.

02:01:37.000 He said, everyone is trying to run the country.

02:01:39.000 No one wants to leave their families.

02:01:41.000 Stop attaching your personal happiness to what Donald Trump says on Twitter.

02:01:45.000 I thought that was pretty powerful.

02:01:48.000 We need more Stoics. 1.00

02:01:50.000 Yeah, people who built careers by having all these notifications set up so that as soon as Trump tweets, they get the notification and can respond right away.

02:01:58.000 Man, you need to find something to do, man.

02:02:00.000 We got Daniel Maxwell says, Pence requires all factions involved to desire peace.

02:02:05.000 Violence occurs when one of the factions decides... Oh, I'm sorry.

02:02:08.000 Peace requires all factions involved to desire peace, not Pence.

02:02:11.000 Violence occurs when one of the factions decides to use force to get what they want.

02:02:15.000 War happens when one of the other factions chooses to defend themselves.

02:02:20.000 Right?

02:02:21.000 And that's, I guess, why things are getting scary, man.

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 Andre Beltran says, Walter General just posted, Trump should resign to avoid a second impeachment.

02:02:31.000 I thought people knew it didn't completely go through the first time.

02:02:34.000 Trump will not be... Everything's on Pence right now.

02:02:38.000 Twenty-fifth amendment requires Mike Pence to initiate some kind of removal.

02:02:43.000 Then there's a vote.

02:02:44.000 Impeachment requires Mike Pence to break the tie.

02:02:47.000 Wait, but here's my question.

02:02:50.000 Okay, so there's like two weeks left now.

02:02:52.000 Less than two weeks.

02:02:53.000 Yeah, less than two weeks.

02:02:55.000 Is the point here anything to do with like insurrection and the safety of people in the country or does it have to do with tarnishing and stamping out the legacy of Trump?

02:03:07.000 It could also be another factor is I believe if he is removed by the article 25 or if he's impeached a second time either or that he can't run for a second term.

02:03:16.000 And I think that's also playing a role.

02:03:21.000 I was reading something that that's also playing a factor.

02:03:23.000 They don't want Trump to run in 2024 because I mean, they still know that he still has that, you know, a big hand in that popular wave on the right.

02:03:30.000 So we got a good one here from Bones.

02:03:32.000 He says, What happened last night has me so conflicted, but what I do know is that all of us need to take a chill pill and it's time to primary out everyone.

02:03:40.000 Yes and yes.

02:03:41.000 Yeah, I agree 100%.

02:03:43.000 Great comment right on the nail on the head.

02:03:45.000 But I also think now is the opportunity for these people and all their anger and 74 million to stop voting Republican.

02:03:52.000 Okay, listen.

02:03:54.000 People keep saying, but if you don't vote for the Republicans and the Democrats went, well, they won.

02:03:57.000 Congratulations.

02:03:57.000 They're all here.

02:03:58.000 You could have at least started something new that, that represented your values and restored faith in the system in a much better way.

02:04:05.000 And it takes investment.

02:04:07.000 I think the issue is too many people are scared of the other.

02:04:11.000 So that's why it's Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican.

02:04:14.000 That's the, that's, that's the only way we end up going.

02:04:16.000 That's why I mostly didn't care to vote for the most part, but I thought Trump had some things that were going.

02:04:20.000 All right.

02:04:21.000 Let's see what we got here.

02:04:23.000 One individual says that, um, is advocating for the peaceful secession from the Union, but I don't think that's possible.

02:04:28.000 No.

02:04:29.000 You know, a lot of people have said peaceful divorce.

02:04:31.000 You can't.

02:04:31.000 I don't see that.

02:04:32.000 Wait, who's seceding from who, though?

02:04:34.000 Like there's that meme about the United States of Canada and Jesus land.

02:04:37.000 Oh, okay.

02:04:38.000 I got it.

02:04:38.000 Like the blue states and the red states just like, you know, draw a dividing line.

02:04:43.000 It's a really interesting point Mike Cernovich brings up.

02:04:44.000 Everybody wants to lead the country.

02:04:46.000 Isn't it simple to just be like, how about we let red states be, you know, have their own laws, like just ease up on the federal rights. 0.98

02:04:54.000 Yeah.

02:04:54.000 Like 10th amendment.

02:04:55.000 Go back a little bit towards states rights.

02:04:57.000 You know, just so people can go back to the articles of confederation and everybody has their own money and there's like 80 different kinds of money.

02:05:03.000 That'd be awesome.

02:05:04.000 I would like that.

02:05:06.000 Let's see.

02:05:06.000 Let's grab some Super Chats here.

02:05:10.000 Let's see, uh, Lior Engelstein says, I was there in the beginning, but before it became super crazy, the switch happened when the news of the Pence letter came out.

02:05:18.000 I sent Richie some photos of paperwork that was taken from McConnell's desk.

02:05:21.000 Crazy.

02:05:22.000 What up, Lior? 0.65

02:05:23.000 That's not, that's bad.

02:05:25.000 Shoutout to Lior in Vegas.

02:05:26.000 But I've, I've heard that.

02:05:27.000 People were saying that everybody was chill, and then once the letter came out from Pence saying he would not support the president, they were just like, I'm mad.

02:05:34.000 And Pence didn't need to release the letter.

02:05:36.000 He could have said... He what?

02:05:38.000 He didn't.

02:05:39.000 He didn't release the letter?

02:05:39.000 He didn't need to.

02:05:40.000 Oh, right.

02:05:41.000 That's the thing.

02:05:41.000 I know.

02:05:41.000 That added so much fuel to the fire.

02:05:43.000 Yeah.

02:05:43.000 You know, maybe that was the letter that he received at Bush's funeral and he just took it out and then he finally issued it.

02:05:48.000 Oh, that conspiracy.

02:05:49.000 I remember that.

02:05:51.000 He could have just said, I am going right now and I'm going to hear the evidence and see this vote counted properly and I will do what's right by the people of this country.

02:05:58.000 And then it would have been like, come on Pence, come on Pence.

02:06:01.000 And that would have been boring and all day with nothing happening.

02:06:03.000 You know, all the Trump supporters waiting outside, clapping and getting ready.

02:06:05.000 And then Pence would be like, Biden wins.

02:06:07.000 And then by then it's late, people are going home and things chill out.

02:06:11.000 I think it was already too late.

02:06:12.000 I mean, I already think, no.

02:06:14.000 Well, Trump kind of threw the hot potato at him, and he was stuck in a situation where he just had the U.S.

02:06:20.000 President say that the election is in his hands right before that moment, which was a very weak move, let's be honest here.

02:06:27.000 That's exactly what I said.

02:06:28.000 It's for her to do all of that to die in the U.S. 1.00

02:06:30.000 air force with four tours of duty in iraq and afghanistan and she died on the floor in the same place that center

02:06:36.000 over there that's that's that's exactly what i said it's right it's

02:06:38.000 for her to do all of that and die in the u.s. and 0.90

02:06:42.000 where's all the protesters about unarmed people being shot But the thing is, why didn't we storm the Capitol when we found out that the Iraq war was a quagmire?

02:06:51.000 That was my question.

02:06:53.000 Or a lie.

02:06:54.000 Don't even get me started.

02:06:56.000 Seriously.

02:06:56.000 That's my thing.

02:06:58.000 People started talking about Area 51 again.

02:06:59.000 Oh my gosh.

02:07:00.000 Kelty says, this is not about Trump.

02:07:02.000 This is about COVID lockdown.

02:07:04.000 The devils find work for idle hands.

02:07:06.000 People were just, you know, losing it.

02:07:12.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:07:13.000 We got so many superchats.

02:07:14.000 Thank you, guys.

02:07:16.000 Nicholas Osborne says, Tim, Luke, Lids, I am eternally grateful for what y'all do.

02:07:20.000 Keep on keepin' on.

02:07:21.000 This just truly is a land of confusion.

02:07:23.000 It is tough, and we're trying to figure things out, huh?

02:07:25.000 But don't forget Ian.

02:07:26.000 Ian's normally here.

02:07:27.000 He's just out today.

02:07:29.000 Jake says, Stop clutching your pearls like the rebels cost Trump anything.

02:07:34.000 All they did was stop the Republicans from pretending like they cared about certifying.

02:07:38.000 Democrats will do what they always plan to do, and those who would leave us now never had the sand to stick around.

02:07:45.000 Betsy DeVos resigned.

02:07:46.000 Like that was huge for Trump and the Trump supporters.

02:07:49.000 And a lot of other people have resigned too.

02:07:51.000 I just think it was a net negative.

02:07:54.000 I mean, even in terms of life lost.

02:07:56.000 What was gained?

02:07:59.000 What was won by that?

02:08:01.000 Nothing.

02:08:02.000 I mean, optics was horrible down the border.

02:08:05.000 Yeah, we lost optics.

02:08:06.000 There's always the quote from Iron Man.

02:08:09.000 You guys see Iron Man 2?

02:08:11.000 Ivan Vanko?

02:08:13.000 If you make God bleed, then there will be blood in the water and the sharks will come.

02:08:17.000 I think the last thing you want is for this country to be shown to be weak, especially at a time when China is... And Iran right now.

02:08:26.000 Yeah, and Iran right now.

02:08:27.000 Like, of all the times to expose weakness in this country, that was... yikes, man.

02:08:33.000 Cause that's not even about Trump or Democrats.

02:08:35.000 That's about the fact that China's doing beaching drills and we got Joe Biden in office.

02:08:40.000 It's easier to get, it's easier to get into the United States Capitol than it is to get into a bar when you're 18 years old.

02:08:46.000 Well, I don't, I mean, you had hundreds of thousands of people.

02:08:50.000 Trust me, I tried to do that and I didn't get into that bar, but I got into the Capitol the other day.

02:08:54.000 Walked right in.

02:08:56.000 And people are freaking out like all of the money we spent on security and they were able to breach it.

02:09:01.000 That is the it's like the worst possible time for this to happen.

02:09:05.000 All you have to do is take a towel and a bunch of ice and you could have gone into any bar through the back door at any time.

02:09:11.000 Well, there you go.

02:09:13.000 That's the way to do it.

02:09:14.000 T-List says, Tim I love your work.

02:09:15.000 I'm considering pursuing a career in journalism, but seeing the state of the media makes me question if my work would always be restricted.

02:09:21.000 Is journalism a career worth pursuing in our time?

02:09:24.000 I don't know.

02:09:25.000 It should be, but everything is de-incentivizing people from doing it because it's hazardous.

02:09:34.000 It's becoming more and more dangerous.

02:09:36.000 And the likelihood of you as an independent person making it is becoming harder and harder, especially with all the censorship efforts and the mainstream media just getting the dominant search results, the dominant headlines, the dominant algorithm feeds.

02:09:50.000 But that's something that I don't want to say.

02:09:52.000 I want to say do it.

02:09:53.000 Go for it because you can make it if you truly believe in yourself.

02:09:57.000 The odds are stacked against you.

02:09:59.000 But when you do make it, it's going to be worth it so much more and you're going to be so much more important than you even realize.

02:10:04.000 Yeah, and if you're asking yourself that question, then I think that you're going in with the right mindset, which is, you know, you're doing it for the right reasons, so.

02:10:11.000 All right, we got a very important Super Chat here from David Brady.

02:10:14.000 He says, Hey Tim, donated $10 earlier but couldn't attach my message.

02:10:17.000 Loving TimCast IRL.

02:10:19.000 I heard you play Magic the Gathering.

02:10:20.000 How much to come play with you?

02:10:22.000 Actually, so we're setting up the new website.

02:10:25.000 It is, it's coming along.

02:10:26.000 We'll get it when we get it.

02:10:27.000 We're gonna have a VIP members section, and there's going to be, we're gonna do events.

02:10:32.000 So there will be like limited ticket sales for members.

02:10:35.000 And the general idea is if you are a member of the podcast, you get exclusive content, you get access to the show.

02:10:40.000 But then when we do events, there's a very limited set of tickets available for people to come to our outdoor events.

02:10:46.000 It's kind of cold right now.

02:10:47.000 But then, you know, we've got the new, if you've seen my Instagram videos, the garage setup.

02:10:52.000 So we're gonna do, uh, you know, music and stuff.

02:10:55.000 And it'll be really small, especially because of COVID.

02:10:57.000 But this will be, like, a really exclusive perk for first-come, first-served members.

02:11:00.000 So it's coming, it's coming.

02:11:02.000 And it's not gonna be based on money.

02:11:03.000 We had a conversation about, like, you know, how do we do tiers for members?

02:11:07.000 And the obvious one is, like, maybe if you give a bunch of money, you can come.

02:11:09.000 And I'm like, and then predicating, like, your ability to come hang out with, like, how much money you have?

02:11:14.000 That's not cool.

02:11:14.000 I don't like that idea.

02:11:15.000 I'm too lefty for that stuff.

02:11:16.000 Nah.

02:11:17.000 Workers of the world unite, right?

02:11:19.000 So my thing is like, I guess the only alternative is kind of like a first come first serve, which means we'll send out a notice like, hey members, we got 10 tickets, and then boom, they're all sold, and then you can come hang out.

02:11:30.000 It is what it is, you know?

02:11:31.000 We try our best, but some things are just, resources are finite, right?

02:11:36.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:11:38.000 Meridian Forest says, I had a lot of pride and faith when I joined the military, not for the country, but for the people.

02:11:44.000 And now I can't really see myself supporting either the Democrats or Republicans because of the people I'd be standing by.

02:11:49.000 I have always felt that way, especially like I grew up with, with the Iraq war, you know what I mean?

02:11:54.000 And I was surprised because my, I, I've got, you know, on both sides of my family, military.

02:11:59.000 And, uh, then I've got my, you know, my, my brother was in the army and my, my sister married into the army.

02:12:04.000 And I'm just like.

02:12:05.000 But with everything I've seen, I was like, why would someone want to do that?

02:12:08.000 That's the challenge, you know?

02:12:10.000 I've heard good answers.

02:12:10.000 I'm not going to pretend like, no, I'm 34, so of course I've grown up from being 15 or whatever.

02:12:15.000 But it was always crazy to me that we could see the problems, we could see the corruption, and you're going off to some foreign country where there was no WMDs, and it just felt like a ripoff.

02:12:24.000 And who was supposed to keep us from invading?

02:12:27.000 Who was going to call that into question?

02:12:28.000 The media.

02:12:29.000 And why didn't they do it?

02:12:31.000 MSNBC was just as for the war as CNN was.

02:12:33.000 New York Times was like a PR for the Iraq war, man.

02:12:39.000 It's emotional, man.

02:12:39.000 condone violence, but people are sick of being smeared while black lives matter

02:12:43.000 gets quote in defense of looting.

02:12:44.000 I was there.

02:12:45.000 I went to support Trump, not because I thought results would change.

02:12:48.000 Heard a guy say he was glad conservative finally doing something.

02:12:51.000 People are fed up.

02:12:52.000 It's emotional, man.

02:12:54.000 That's, that's the challenge.

02:12:55.000 I criticize, you know, I, this is activist guy I knew from occupy and he said,

02:12:59.000 smashing a bank window does nothing and it hurts your cause, but it really

02:13:04.000 feels good to the person who did it.

02:13:05.000 And I'm like, then why do it?

02:13:07.000 And he was like, people aren't smart enough to organize, to figure out how you effectively target the corporations you think are oppressing you.

02:13:13.000 So instead they want that immediate emotional release of attacking a symbol of that oppression.

02:13:18.000 And I was like, that was very, very smart.

02:13:20.000 And that's it.

02:13:21.000 That's the federal courthouse, too, in Portland.

02:13:22.000 It's a symbol.

02:13:23.000 Right, exactly.

02:13:24.000 What was the point of going there?

02:13:25.000 Storming the Capitol didn't do anything.

02:13:27.000 It didn't accomplish anything.

02:13:29.000 But I'm sure people were like, I'm angry and I want to attack a symbol.

02:13:33.000 But it's just, you know what, man?

02:13:36.000 Logic versus emotion.

02:13:37.000 It's a big challenge for people.

02:13:39.000 And ultimately this just created a pretext for some new, you know, ridiculous security bill.

02:13:45.000 More police forces.

02:13:47.000 Well, at least it ended to fund the police, I suppose, but I've never been a big fan of militarized police.

02:13:53.000 I would imagine now with any future demonstrations or rallies or speeches in D.C., I mean, they're going to have that U.S.

02:14:00.000 Capitol building guarded.

02:14:02.000 I mean, you're not even going to be able to step even on the sidewalk steps of that building, I guarantee.

02:14:06.000 They're going to have it.

02:14:07.000 But that's what we said about the White House when they almost pulled them the Jackson statue.

02:14:11.000 And then it's like, OK, well, another symbol is the Capitol.

02:14:14.000 So don't you think you maybe should protect that one, too, in these these times?

02:14:19.000 It's it's negligence to the point of like, I can't even comprehend it.

02:14:23.000 I have no idea what they were thinking.

02:14:25.000 I mean, this is what happens to a society when the ruling class and the oligarchy is going to keep smashing on regular working Americans.

02:14:32.000 They're going to stand up.

02:14:33.000 I feel like it's like when you trap an animal in a corner.

02:14:36.000 We're seeing that right now.

02:14:37.000 You know who's holding the billionaires to account?

02:14:38.000 The Washington Post.

02:14:39.000 Yeah, I feel good about that.

02:14:42.000 It's owned by a Robin Hood type guy named Jeff Bezos.

02:14:47.000 Who has no connections to the CIA at all.

02:14:49.000 I love that guy.

02:14:50.000 No comment.

02:14:51.000 So I did not say that.

02:14:52.000 It's not coming from me.

02:14:54.000 A Texan says, Richie, I know what you're doing wearing that shirt.

02:14:57.000 You mock me.

02:14:58.000 Wife and I are happy.

02:14:59.000 Y'all are safe.

02:15:00.000 Take care, brother.

02:15:01.000 Ew! 0.98

02:15:02.000 What are you doing with that?

02:15:04.000 It's a point break.

02:15:04.000 It's Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves.

02:15:06.000 And this one says, that's Bodhi.

02:15:09.000 They call him the Bodhi Sattva on the back.

02:15:10.000 It's a different quote.

02:15:11.000 When do we get to go back to talking about, you know, like movies and stuff?

02:15:15.000 It's the lockdown.

02:15:16.000 It's making everybody cabin fever.

02:15:17.000 When can we go to the movie theater?

02:15:19.000 Yes, please.

02:15:19.000 Well, if you're in West Virginia.

02:15:22.000 Mmm, you can go to the movie theater.

02:15:23.000 Interesting point.

02:15:24.000 Yeah, the funny thing is like there's a lot in West Virginia They have a mask mandate and you walk in without a mask and no one doesn't care.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, you know, I have a mask I had this really cool.

02:15:32.000 I was bringing up someone sent me a masks a little beanie on it So I wear it, but you'll walk in nobody cares.

02:15:37.000 Oh And it's like, some people will be like, they'll avoid somebody who's not wearing a mask.

02:15:40.000 I'm like, man, that's very West Virginia.

02:15:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:43.000 Like, you see somebody not wearing a mask, instead of going up to them and yelling at them, putting yourself at risk, you say, I'm gonna avoid that person.

02:15:49.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:50.000 I mean... Smart.

02:15:52.000 Right.

02:15:53.000 It's the opposite in California, I'll tell you that.

02:15:57.000 It's like they want to get sick.

02:16:02.000 Rusty Shackelford says Tim Pool has been yelling into the void of the internet for months at the establishment and the traders.

02:16:08.000 Now he is acting like a coward when people act. 0.92

02:16:11.000 Yeah, you're a shill right now, Tim Pool.

02:16:14.000 It's funny that I'm like, here's what wins hearts and minds in a fifth generational warfare context and allows you to win elections.

02:16:20.000 And then they're like, yeah, but we want to break a window.

02:16:22.000 And I'm like, but I criticize people who break the windows.

02:16:25.000 You may say that I'm railing on the establishment.

02:16:27.000 I railed on Antifa.

02:16:29.000 Why?

02:16:29.000 Because they went around smashing windows and destroying businesses.

02:16:32.000 And then when the cops came out and violated the Constitution, I railed on the cops for violating the Constitution.

02:16:36.000 It's about principle.

02:16:38.000 There's an effective strategy to solving your problems, and this ain't it.

02:16:44.000 So forgive me if my principles remain, for the most part, static when these things go down.

02:16:51.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

02:16:53.000 Eric Miller says, I think it's like people handling substances differently.

02:16:57.000 People handle adrenaline differently.

02:16:59.000 Your brain works an overclocked PC versus everybody else just mentally crashes.

02:17:04.000 Oh, in reference to our like time slowing down.

02:17:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:17:07.000 I think there's a lot of people who just, they freak out and their brain is like, meh, it can't work.

02:17:10.000 And there are some people that just like heightened senses, everything slows down.

02:17:14.000 You can see everything.

02:17:15.000 It becomes weird, crystal clear.

02:17:16.000 It's just like, you know, bolts are going super fast.

02:17:19.000 That's also, you know, a Keanu movie as well.

02:17:21.000 Poke it and just like floats away in your life It also depends on the situation and circumstance because

02:17:25.000 an individual who could have that kind of matrix response could also have a panicky one

02:17:30.000 Later on. Yeah, so there's incidences of both of them happening. That's also, you know, a Keanu movie as well. I

02:17:37.000 know come fair So in reference to my comment about you know, the violence

02:17:42.000 400 years ago Rez says here's a few in the last years you Ukrainian, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Russia, Belarus, Macedonia, Serbia, Bosnia, Moldova, Romania, and they all had, they all lead to change.

02:17:54.000 Is what's going on in many of these countries like a positive thing right now?

02:17:58.000 Russia has been, I mean, I guess the Soviet Union was more of an economic collapse loop.

02:18:03.000 Is that what, it was just like this, It was the drop of participation.

02:18:08.000 So many countries just decided not to participate anymore, not to feed into the system.

02:18:14.000 And you had protests, general strikes, not just in Poland, but also all around the Soviet bloc with countries saying, we're just not going to participate.

02:18:23.000 And of course, the Soviet Union was going out of money.

02:18:26.000 And there's a lot of different political strategists, including a very excellent interview by G. Edward Griffin with a KGB agent that talks about a larger kind of strategy here, which also could be at play.

02:18:38.000 But again, all it took was individuals.

02:18:41.000 Again, some of the protests worked.

02:18:43.000 Some of them were violently crushed down.

02:18:45.000 They protested again.

02:18:48.000 How about Libya?

02:18:49.000 You got Yeltsin though, right?

02:18:50.000 Wasn't it Yeltsin? 0.99

02:18:51.000 He was a piece of crap and they just gave all the money to the oligarchs who controlled the oil markets. 1.00

02:18:56.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:18:56.000 And people talk about Ukraine, but the oligarchs are still in control exactly like so oh so they exactly president 1.00

02:19:02.000 fled to Russia And now it's the same people who have always controlled 0.98

02:19:04.000 things by force so you had the French Revolution you got Napoleon 0.89

02:19:08.000 Fantastic.

02:19:09.000 Yeah, right.

02:19:09.000 And so this is what I always tell people.

02:19:11.000 When I see these Antifa people saying, like, once we're in control, we'll create a better world.

02:19:15.000 And I'm like, you think you're justified in hurting people to get what you want.

02:19:19.000 That's not going to change once you're president.

02:19:21.000 You're just going to use it on a larger scale.

02:19:23.000 So it's difficult.

02:19:25.000 It really is.

02:19:25.000 I'm not going to pretend like it's easy.

02:19:27.000 But I think about some of these countries, and I think about what you just said.

02:19:30.000 It's confidence in the system.

02:19:32.000 It can't exist if you walk away.

02:19:34.000 You ever see that Treehouse of Horror Simpsons, where the guy plays a song, just don't look, because the advertisements came to life?

02:19:40.000 And then all you gotta do is look away from the advertisement, and then it is no longer alive.

02:19:44.000 But people also forget that, like, same thing that we were talking about earlier with drugs, government is a technology that's been, like, developed over so many generations and thousands of years, and, like, you can't just be like, oh, actually my idea that I came up with while I was sitting on Twitter is much better, so we're gonna overthrow the government.

02:20:01.000 I don't know. Braveheart0484 says, the left has no idea what a civil war will mean to the right.

02:20:07.000 The problem is the left is doing what every tyrant has done in history.

02:20:10.000 What happens when the militia show up? The left believes anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

02:20:14.000 And then 50swmconstfirst.

02:20:19.000 I'm not super familiar with what that means.

02:20:20.000 I assume it's a military thing or something.

02:20:22.000 But, uh, I agree.

02:20:23.000 And it was just something Joe Rogan said.

02:20:24.000 That the people who are clamoring for a revolution... Antifa carries banners.

02:20:28.000 Revolution.

02:20:29.000 Nothing less.

02:20:30.000 They don't understand what happens when the actual guys who have seen combat are forced out because you broke open the floodgates.

02:20:37.000 Like, people don't realize... ISIS is what happened in Iraq.

02:20:41.000 I mean, that's a good example.

02:20:42.000 That's another thing, too, I was going to say about the violence thing.

02:20:43.000 Like, how's it going for Syria?

02:20:45.000 You know, Libya.

02:20:46.000 Well, Libya, you know, the U.S. 0.82

02:20:47.000 kind of caused a lot of problems.

02:20:49.000 But early, early on, the protests in Libya ultimately led to this intervention.

02:20:54.000 Early on, the protests and uprisings in Syria, what we saw were the rebels pick up arms and they said, well, they're shooting at us, so we're going to shoot back.

02:21:01.000 Then ISIS.

02:21:02.000 So it's like, perhaps there's no real easy answer.

02:21:06.000 And perhaps sometimes the conversation stops.

02:21:08.000 But I'll say, in reference to a lot of these countries, Yes, maybe you don't have to go back so far, but the reality is the United States is very, very different, especially today.

02:21:15.000 The information age is new.

02:21:17.000 It's very, very new.

02:21:18.000 The internet is, what, 26 years old-ish?

02:21:21.000 From when we actually got, like, AOL and CompuServe.

02:21:25.000 Well, I think you go back to, like, 1989 with CompuServe or whatever.

02:21:28.000 And then, like, you had internet on DOS and stuff, for those that are familiar with it.

02:21:30.000 So we've really had, I think, 2007.

02:21:34.000 The advent of the popular smartphone, the iPhone, now we have all the basic same phone structure of watching movies, watching videos, reading tweets, and that's changing everything.

02:21:44.000 And now, when you go out and you hurt someone, everyone kinda dislikes that and they learn real quick.

02:21:50.000 We talk about, like, false flags and stuff in the military.

02:21:52.000 The Gulf of Tonkin incident.

02:21:53.000 It's very difficult to pull these off now, because everyone's got footage and photos of everything.

02:21:58.000 Sure, you know, there's still tricks and techniques, but the reality is information has changed the game dramatically.

02:22:03.000 It's cool!

02:22:04.000 I think it's cool.

02:22:04.000 We don't gotta get violent anymore.

02:22:06.000 You know, some people are, and they're bad people.

02:22:09.000 But also, on the other hand, with social media, it's creating more mental illness, which is driving people crazy.

02:22:14.000 Yes, exactly.

02:22:15.000 Let's see.

02:22:16.000 iLeet says, shout out to the 1984 level stuff.

02:22:20.000 Wanted to donate just in case they erase the video.

02:22:22.000 Your guests are top knock tonight.

02:22:24.000 Cheers, guys.

02:22:25.000 Oh, we got some, you know, legit journalists who are on the ground covering this stuff, you know?

02:22:29.000 It's how we do.

02:22:31.000 Let's see.

02:22:31.000 Oh, we got a positive comment about Tulsi Gabbard.

02:22:34.000 Where did that go?

02:22:35.000 Hell yeah.

02:22:35.000 It just jumped.

02:22:36.000 So when we get too many superchats, it just bounces.

02:22:39.000 She's great.

02:22:40.000 Oh no, it went away.

02:22:41.000 They said, but I can't remember who it was.

02:22:43.000 They said Tulsi Gabbard hit the nail on the head with her latest interview, but the specifics are gone.

02:22:48.000 Alright.

02:22:49.000 Jesse Misagian.

02:22:51.000 Pronouncing your name wrong, probably.

02:22:53.000 Tim, how dare you quote the worst MCU movie?

02:22:56.000 Literally the only time I've heard someone quote Iron Man 2.

02:23:02.000 That's Mickey Rourke, though.

02:23:03.000 Isn't that the character?

02:23:04.000 I mean, he's a good actor, at least.

02:23:06.000 I told you you liked him.

02:23:07.000 What?

02:23:08.000 I told you you liked Iron Man.

02:23:09.000 What do you mean?

02:23:10.000 Iron Man.

02:23:11.000 Iron Man 2, yeah.

02:23:12.000 And he's fighting with Ivan Vanko?

02:23:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:23:16.000 I'm just saying, you really like Iron Man.

02:23:17.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:23:18.000 Captain America's cool, too.

02:23:20.000 He's just trying to make it seem like I was on the side of the corporatists with the Captain America Civil War thing.

02:23:24.000 I think it's maybe because you were, like, too personal.

02:23:28.000 I found sitting and giving you an explanation of the pros and the cons.

02:23:31.000 Listen, Marvel already sold out to China, so why don't you guys just find a new comic?

02:23:36.000 Disney.

02:23:38.000 Jared Gilmore says, the only question I have is, do we get Trinidad and Jehovah to pressure us? 1.00

02:23:46.000 Everyone keeps saying trun-a-lim-a-na-na pressure, but he said tru-in-a-na-na shabba da pressure.

02:23:51.000 Yes, of course.

02:23:52.000 I went through it a million times, man.

02:23:53.000 That's impressive.

02:23:54.000 Yeah.

02:23:57.000 Wonderful.

02:23:57.000 Use the time.

02:23:59.000 Ben, Busher says it's really easy to say violence is wrong and storming the Capitol is wrong when you haven't lost your job.

02:24:05.000 And in fact, prospering from the current crisis.

02:24:07.000 Love the show, just disagree.

02:24:08.000 That's a fair point.

02:24:09.000 No, I agree.

02:24:10.000 That's a really good point.

02:24:13.000 I disagree.

02:24:13.000 Well, I still think that it's people Yeah, we don't know his pain, we don't know his suffering.

02:24:19.000 more people are paying attention to the media because they're stuck in home.

02:24:22.000 So it's easy to denounce anything that's going on as a result of this unrest.

02:24:28.000 Yeah, we don't know his pain. We don't know his suffering.

02:24:30.000 I will say, easy is a good point. It's not like I'm suffering.

02:24:35.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:35.000 I think we were doing actually a lot better before the lockdown started.

02:24:39.000 And there was a big hit because when restaurants close, advertisers disappear.

02:24:43.000 And a massive portion of ad rates are due to local businesses advertising their services.

02:24:48.000 And then when they got shut down, like, you could see it on YouTube.

02:24:51.000 Everybody got hit really bad.

02:24:52.000 But truth be told, my company is not suffering.

02:24:55.000 You know, that's the difference.

02:24:56.000 it's uh we're doing well here so i respect that point but i think the the thing being missed there is just because it might be hard and you're suffering under the lockdown doesn't make storming the capital the solution it doesn't make it work and my thing is and this is just me and i know some people don't agree but i'm gonna tell you what i think I would, personally, if I saw the system breaking down and, you know, the Democrats have won the election.

02:25:22.000 Trump has won.

02:25:22.000 So that's the direction that's gone.

02:25:23.000 The election, you didn't get your way.

02:25:26.000 I'd rather go farm.

02:25:28.000 And if I can't work, I will survive for myself.

02:25:31.000 And I think that's something about, you know, growing up and being homeless and being on the South Side and being poor.

02:25:37.000 I have no expectations from the system to support me in any way.

02:25:40.000 In fact, I just think typically it's a detriment in some capacity.

02:25:43.000 So I rely on myself.

02:25:44.000 If I need food, I gotta get food.

02:25:46.000 It's harder when you have a family than I get.

02:25:48.000 But maybe what needs to happen is people need to realize you might have to live like humans had to live.

02:25:54.000 You might have to farm, build your own stuff, trade, and be self-sustaining, and be independent, and not sit there and be like, when will the government allow me to run my business again?

02:26:04.000 Because maybe they won't, and maybe the elections didn't give you the outcome you wanted because the Democrats want the lockdowns.

02:26:10.000 I mean, Joe Biden campaigned on locking down.

02:26:12.000 Heavily.

02:26:13.000 And Fauci and Bill Gates have both said normalcy won't come back until 2022.

02:26:17.000 When all these people vote for this, then, what, it's, you know, what do you do?

02:26:23.000 Other than fight for yourself, I guess.

02:26:25.000 It's not easy and there's no good answer. 0.98

02:26:26.000 Wear a mask, stay inside, and shut up.

02:26:29.000 But then when you run out of food, like, eventually you have to leave and go find food.

02:26:33.000 Order it on Amazon.

02:26:34.000 No, I mean, like, if you have no money, you can't pay your rent.

02:26:36.000 Yeah, I hear you.

02:26:37.000 At a certain point, you can't, you got stink bug land on you. 1.00

02:26:41.000 I love how they're just dumb and clumsy. 1.00

02:26:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:26:43.000 Chilling with me.

02:26:45.000 Odra Noelle Zenitram says, China is vulnerable right now.

02:26:49.000 They're requesting grain from the surrounding countries around them and trade war with Aussies led them to running out of coal for their steel production.

02:26:55.000 Saw that.

02:26:55.000 They're taking firewood and coal from their citizens to keep up with steel production.

02:27:00.000 Well, that's another thing we were discussing with China Uncensored here is that China is not this huge, big, mighty empire.

02:27:08.000 They're someone that is supported by the U.S.

02:27:11.000 establishment, but also a country geopolitically not in a good position with lack of really important resources that they are desperately trying to get right now.

02:27:20.000 Don't mess with the Aussies. 1.00

02:27:21.000 I gotta agree with this one.

02:27:23.000 Ted the Second says, the memes on iFunny right now about all of this are on fire.

02:27:27.000 The exact opposite of what CNN and others are saying, the voice of the people.

02:27:31.000 Well, I agree that there's a bunch of hilarious memes, like the one where it says, 2020 was a weird year, and then it says six days into 2021, it's the Viking guy as president of the Senate.

02:27:40.000 Now banned on Facebook.

02:27:41.000 Now banned on Facebook.

02:27:43.000 Because fun is verboten.

02:27:45.000 Sorry.

02:27:46.000 Not allowed.

02:27:47.000 Only fear.

02:27:48.000 Todd Mastin says, Luke, I will buy you an I am a Gorilla shirt if you get me one of those that you have.

02:27:54.000 Um, maybe.

02:27:55.000 What kind of Gorilla shirts do you have?

02:27:56.000 Well, no, no, we're making the... Yeah, the one we're making.

02:27:58.000 Okay.

02:27:59.000 Maybe.

02:27:59.000 It's probably gonna be ready soon.

02:28:00.000 We just need the graphic design and then the I am a Gorilla, love yourselves.

02:28:04.000 You're competing with me now in my t-shirt business, Tim.

02:28:06.000 What do you mean?

02:28:06.000 We have t-shirt pinned right now.

02:28:08.000 I just figured this out because YouTube's been like on the fritz.

02:28:12.000 They've changed something and like weird things keep happening.

02:28:14.000 We had the other day a six and a half hour live stream of nothing just appear.

02:28:20.000 We've done...

02:28:22.000 We accidentally live-streamed a hot mic in our office.

02:28:27.000 For how long?

02:28:28.000 I'm not going to say when. 1.00

02:28:31.000 It wasn't that bad, but we were just staying really dumb, just being idiots. 1.00

02:28:36.000 People were trying to listen to Donald Trump and they were just listening to a bunch of idiots in the newsroom. 1.00

02:28:43.000 But, uh, I just figured this out. 0.98

02:28:45.000 I was, like, clicking around, and there's a merchandise thing, and it says, you can pin a shirt, and it's the Harumph shirt, and I was like, oh, okay, so I did it.

02:28:51.000 Maybe we'll sell a bunch of those.

02:28:52.000 But once we get the gorilla one, we'll put it up, I am a gorilla.

02:28:54.000 It's literally just a gorilla saying, I am a gorilla.

02:28:56.000 I have, it's funny, I guess, people really like it.

02:28:58.000 There's nothing about it.

02:28:59.000 It's literally, it's it.

02:29:02.000 It's, it's, people are gonna wear the shirt, and it's gonna be a gorilla, like, with his fist like this, says, I am a gorilla, and people are gonna be like, okay.

02:29:09.000 There's no political message or anything.

02:29:11.000 It's great.

02:29:11.000 I love it.

02:29:12.000 I mean, Harumph, I say, is really good too.

02:29:14.000 Also, no big political message. 0.98

02:29:16.000 Just fun, silly. 0.96

02:29:17.000 What's that referencing? 0.96

02:29:19.000 It's Tim.

02:29:21.000 So, periodically, I'll make a reference.

02:29:23.000 Oh, Harumph, I say.

02:29:24.000 I got you now.

02:29:25.000 My reference is to the establishment elites.

02:29:27.000 I got it now.

02:29:28.000 I thought it was like Harambe's brother.

02:29:30.000 No, no, no.

02:29:31.000 So, like, the joke I make is you'll see, like, Nancy Pelosi will see a Trump supporter and she'll go, Haram Faisay!

02:29:37.000 Like, you know, how dare you?

02:29:38.000 And so then someone made a... It's me.

02:29:40.000 Well, maybe we do a gorilla shirt that's Harambe's brother and he says Harambe Faisay.

02:29:43.000 Perfect.

02:29:45.000 Harambe shirts would do well, but YouTube for some reason took away my ability to have my shirts on YouTube for some reason.

02:29:51.000 I don't know why.

02:29:52.000 Why?

02:29:52.000 I'm not even gonna...

02:29:56.000 So, Big Boss, I have to apologize.

02:29:59.000 You said, please read my last Super Chat.

02:30:01.000 I think it got skipped.

02:30:02.000 No.

02:30:02.000 And I apologize, but we have so many Super Chats that the YouTube feed actually skips and jumps, and so I'm trying to scroll through, but it's really, really difficult.

02:30:11.000 What the heck?

02:30:11.000 Just jump this now.

02:30:13.000 Stanky... I'm not going to read your name.

02:30:16.000 Stankly says, Tim, as much as I agree with moving away from cities, I implore you to exempt the crazy Jurassic Eden that is Florida.

02:30:25.000 Florida is one of those last bastions of the American dream, because a line... No, I'm not reading that last part.

02:30:30.000 What?

02:30:30.000 I want to know now.

02:30:31.000 Just a reference to drugs.

02:30:32.000 But I briefly live in Florida.

02:30:34.000 The problem is no one goes outside.

02:30:35.000 I live in Miami.

02:30:36.000 You can't.

02:30:37.000 No one goes outside.

02:30:38.000 Swimming.

02:30:39.000 I was supposed to be in Florida.

02:30:40.000 I still might be in Florida, by the way.

02:30:42.000 They don't go outside because it's always like 90 degrees with maximum humidity.

02:30:46.000 But when it rains, it is awesome.

02:30:48.000 Like every day it's like a monsoon.

02:30:51.000 I'm outside and it's just like crazy.

02:30:53.000 But in Miami, you drive around, no one's outside except for January and February.

02:30:58.000 And all of the windows of all of the businesses are drenched in condensation because the AC's on full blast and the humidity's maxed out.

02:31:05.000 So like, you drive around and you don't see people.

02:31:08.000 You go to Miami Beach and there's tons of people.

02:31:10.000 But just driving around in the Miami general area.

02:31:12.000 I remember wanting to go out and skate, and it was just so miserable.

02:31:15.000 Because you'd go out, sweltering in humidity, and the park would be empty.

02:31:20.000 But in January and February, that's when it was okay.

02:31:23.000 That was the one time.

02:31:25.000 Let's see, Keyboard Warrior says, Love you, Luke!

02:31:27.000 Ooh! 0.96

02:31:29.000 I love you too.

02:31:30.000 Thank you.

02:31:31.000 Oh, here we go.

02:31:32.000 Tyler Y says, Tulsi has an interview with Dave Rubin yesterday when the mayhem was going on.

02:31:37.000 Think the full interview dropped Sunday.

02:31:38.000 Oh, cool.

02:31:39.000 Interesting.

02:31:39.000 I think Tulsi's great.

02:31:41.000 Timothy Vick says, Tim and friends, can capitalism exist without devolving into an oligarchy?

02:31:46.000 What protections could prevent it?

02:31:47.000 That's a great question.

02:31:49.000 Yep.

02:31:50.000 An actual open market that's not bastardized by government?

02:31:53.000 I disagree.

02:31:54.000 Correct.

02:31:55.000 A vibrant public discourse.

02:31:57.000 Yeah.

02:31:58.000 Free speech.

02:31:59.000 Absolutely.

02:32:00.000 Let's see.

02:32:02.000 Brian Quillen says, farming isn't cheap.

02:32:06.000 Just a combined cost, $750,000.

02:32:08.000 A combine.

02:32:09.000 A combine.

02:32:10.000 Yeah.

02:32:11.000 Yeah, I went to a bunch of farms and talked to them and they had hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment.

02:32:14.000 But I'm not talking about farming and mass scale.

02:32:16.000 I'm talking about you and your family farming.

02:32:20.000 You're on your own food.

02:32:20.000 I mean, I had chickens once.

02:32:22.000 They're great.

02:32:23.000 They just, you walk outside and they're just standing there.

02:32:25.000 You can get chickens in D.C.

02:32:26.000 actually.

02:32:26.000 We've been looking into it.

02:32:27.000 You can get chickens?

02:32:28.000 You should get chickens at the office. 1.00

02:32:31.000 That's actually a good idea.

02:32:32.000 They lay eggs.

02:32:33.000 That's actually a good idea.

02:32:34.000 My boss would love that.

02:32:35.000 Chickens lay eggs, did you know that?

02:32:36.000 They do lay eggs, yes.

02:32:37.000 He's correct.

02:32:37.000 So it's really great.

02:32:38.000 You walk outside and the chickens, like the chickens I would have, the noise they would make is they would go like...

02:32:43.000 Right when they pop on out?

02:32:47.000 The young kids are calling people say people say that they got a clock and stuff, right?

02:32:51.000 That's like the noise it's out here or whatever But with it what when I what they don't realize is that

02:32:57.000 chickens make a bunch of different noises and the ones we I had would walk on going like

02:33:01.000 And they're like whistle and like they do yeah And then we would go outside and they'd have a little thing

02:33:06.000 to be sleeping and we walk in and they would get up and They look at us and there'd be eggs and I'd be like yeah,

02:33:10.000 we go and make eggs for breakfast is awesome But yeah, you can do that. You can have a bunch of chickens

02:33:14.000 running around doing chicken stuff He does make eggs for you.

02:33:18.000 Stink bugs. 0.96

02:33:19.000 But it is not that simple.

02:33:21.000 You need the layer, the protein feed for them, and you need the special lights for winter

02:33:24.000 and stuff.

02:33:25.000 But if you were going to sustain your family, I kind of feel like, the way I always describe

02:33:30.000 it, if I was in the middle of the woods with nothing but a pointy stick, that's a net positive.

02:33:36.000 You're not completely with nothing.

02:33:38.000 I think most people assume they've got to have clean running water, access to healthcare,

02:33:42.000 their TV, and their showers, and their refrigerators.

02:33:44.000 And I'm kind of like, give me a pointy stick and I'm doing well.

02:33:47.000 And if I'm in the middle of the woods with nothing, I'll make a pointy stick.

02:33:50.000 And that's how we start.

02:33:51.000 And then you start building a house and you find water and then you go from there and you like rely on yourself, man.

02:33:55.000 Well, people need to realize it is extremely difficult to farm.

02:33:59.000 Even during the time I spent in New Hampshire, we just had a little plot.

02:34:02.000 That little plot took a lot of care and maintenance.

02:34:06.000 It's a lot.

02:34:06.000 And that's why a lot of people who do end up working a lot don't want to really share it with other people and are naturally more conservative.

02:34:14.000 Yep.

02:34:15.000 Let's see.

02:34:15.000 Dan Saw F says, thank you.

02:34:18.000 Thank you for all your hard work.

02:34:19.000 Everyone have a beer on me.

02:34:21.000 I appreciate it.

02:34:21.000 Thanks, man.

02:34:23.000 Let's see.

02:34:25.000 What is that one?

02:34:27.000 Geek Oasis says, please let me know where I can get Luke's shirt at.

02:34:30.000 Oh, thank you very much.

02:34:32.000 Thank you so much for asking.

02:34:34.000 You could get my shirt and support my voluntary efforts here by going to wearechange.org forward slash shirts.

02:34:41.000 So wearechange.org forward slash shirts.

02:34:43.000 Get this one, get everyone I wear.

02:34:46.000 I pimp out all my merchandise on all the shows, so whatever you see me wear, I probably sell it.

02:34:50.000 We gotta get one of those to put on the wall.

02:34:52.000 I'm not even kidding, that's a great shirt.

02:34:53.000 I mean, that's where we're at right now.

02:34:55.000 I know, it's great.

02:34:56.000 People need to really, like, realize it.

02:34:58.000 Well, we've been quite a bit over, as we often do.

02:35:01.000 The show was supposed to be a two-hour show, but it became a two-and-a-half, two-and-a-half hour show.

02:35:04.000 Somewhere along the line.

02:35:05.000 Yeah, somewhere.

02:35:07.000 So if you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe, hit that notification bell.

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02:35:18.000 And we're live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.

02:35:20.000 Check us out on iTunes and other platforms.

02:35:22.000 Do you guys want to mention your socials and your work and all that stuff?

02:35:26.000 Sure.

02:35:26.000 Richie McGinnis.

02:35:27.000 R-I-C-H-I-E-M-C-G-I-N-N-I-S-S on all platforms. 1.00

02:35:32.000 A lot of N's and a lot of S's. 0.99

02:35:33.000 Two I's, two N's and two S's. 0.82

02:35:36.000 Yeah, so Jorge Ventura, Field Correspondent, Daily Caller, Ventura Report on Twitter.

02:35:41.000 Then we are JorgeVenturaTV on Instagram.

02:35:43.000 We've got an exciting, informative documentary coming out on the restaurant situation in Southern California.

02:35:50.000 So stay tuned for that.

02:35:51.000 And we also have a mental health story coming out.

02:35:53.000 So yeah, stay tuned and hopefully we're not at a civil war next time I see it.

02:35:57.000 Or when we do, we'll have you back so we can talk about it.

02:35:59.000 Yeah, I'm coming here because you have guns. 0.94

02:36:02.000 Good stuff, yeah.

02:36:03.000 I don't have nearly as many as people are probably assuming.

02:36:05.000 Can I have, like if I were to come, can I get one?

02:36:09.000 We don't have enough.

02:36:09.000 Give me that snub nose over there.

02:36:13.000 The what?

02:36:14.000 Is that a snub nose or what is that?

02:36:15.000 No one can see anything, what are you talking about?

02:36:16.000 Nothing, there's nothing there.

02:36:18.000 It's a water bottle.

02:36:19.000 It's an airsoft gun.

02:36:21.000 No, I like the one that's behind me.

02:36:22.000 Yeah, we won't talk about that one.

02:36:25.000 It's fun.

02:36:26.000 It's an old 1865.

02:36:27.000 I'm done.

02:36:29.000 So the censorship that we're about to reach has never been seen before.

02:36:34.000 So I was going to say check out my YouTube channel, We Are Change, but better would be for you to go to wearechange.org and in the top right hand corner you could sign up on our email list and there's no big tech oligarch standing in the way between me and you!

02:36:48.000 wearechange.org top right hand corner sign up on our email list it's free it cost you nothing and definitely check that out shirts again wearechange.org forward slash shirts if you want to support my efforts here really appreciate you guys so much you guys are freaking incredible I love engaging with you guys so sincerely sincerely thank you thank you thank you Right on, and of course you can follow at Sour Patch Literatures.

02:37:09.000 You can.

02:37:09.000 Tonight I was accompanied by my little co-producer.

02:37:12.000 His name is Stinky Sam, and he's been flying around the room causing all sorts of trouble.

02:37:16.000 Are you guys related?

02:37:17.000 We are related, yes.

02:37:19.000 How did you know?

02:37:19.000 And then his friend is Smelly Shelly.

02:37:22.000 That's his little wife. 1.00

02:37:23.000 I haven't seen her lately, but I love my co-producers.

02:37:26.000 Anyway!

02:37:27.000 One of the funniest things ever is when the cats encounter stink bugs and sniff them.

02:37:30.000 It's so great.

02:37:30.000 And it's like, don't sniff the stink bug, kitty!

02:37:32.000 And then they go, blech!

02:37:35.000 It's in the name. 0.99

02:37:35.000 Because they stink. 0.99

02:37:36.000 Yep.

02:37:36.000 My dog tries to eat them.

02:37:38.000 Oh yeah, that's smart.

02:37:39.000 I like that.

02:37:39.000 Well, apparently people do and there are many.

02:37:43.000 They are many.

02:37:44.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out everybody.

02:37:46.000 I hope everybody calms down and we chill out and things simmer a little bit, but we'll see how it plays out.

02:37:52.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:37:52.000 We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:37:54.000 live.

02:37:55.000 Once again, thank you and we will see you all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 08, 2021

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