Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Chauvin Juror ADMITS She Feared BLM Riots And Retaliation w-Michael Knowles

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:45.000 so one of the jurors in the Derek Chauvin trial gave an interview yesterday

00:01:01.000 In the interview she said, I was worried that everybody would be mad or you know,

00:01:05.000 no matter what the verdict was. And I said, this is close as we're going to get to an

00:01:08.000 admission that the riots played a role. Later in the afternoon, another interview came out

00:01:12.000 where she was straight up like, I didn't want to go through riots and destruction again.

00:01:16.000 And I was scared someone would come to my house in retaliation.

00:01:18.000 And I'm like, wait a minute.

00:01:20.000 That's dramatically different.

00:01:22.000 That's an outright statement.

00:01:23.000 Because, you know, Trump supporters going around burning things down over the Chauvin verdict.

00:01:26.000 We know what she was scared of, and so this is...

00:01:29.000 I gotta say, this is going to be their appeal.

00:01:32.000 They go to a judge, they say, look, here's what the jurors were thinking.

00:01:35.000 They should have sequestered the jury. 0.66

00:01:37.000 They should have moved venue.

00:01:38.000 We're going to talk about this.

00:01:39.000 We've got a bunch of other stories.

00:01:39.000 We're going to talk about a lot of wokeness in movies, and we're going to do it.

00:01:44.000 We're going to talk about The Falcon and the Winter Soldier again, because I just watched the finale, and it is not woke.

00:01:48.000 It is pro-America, and I thought it was great.

00:01:51.000 It's strangely pro-nationalist and anti- Antifa, it's just so weird to see people ragging on it and thinking it's far left or whatever.

00:01:59.000 But we'll talk about it because it's deliciously centrist.

00:02:02.000 Now, I could do all that work.

00:02:03.000 I'm taking that off because we got someone here who can handle it for me.

00:02:06.000 We got Michael Knowles, so...

00:02:08.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:08.000 It's great to be here.

00:02:10.000 Great.

00:02:11.000 You know, I think I saw like one and a half of Marvel movies once.

00:02:15.000 So I think I'm an expert.

00:02:16.000 I can pontificate on the whole universe.

00:02:19.000 And I haven't seen the movies you're talking about, but I'll just talk about it.

00:02:22.000 It's fine.

00:02:23.000 It's never stopped me before.

00:02:24.000 That's that's that's I think that's indicative of the cable news class.

00:02:28.000 So you should be fine.

00:02:29.000 That's great.

00:02:29.000 You'll get a job at CNN.

00:02:30.000 They'll be like, I like what this guy does.

00:02:32.000 He doesn't do any research in the talks.

00:02:33.000 It's perfect for CNN.

00:02:35.000 It's like me.

00:02:35.000 We got it.

00:02:37.000 It's like What Marvel movies did you see?

00:02:39.000 Marvel movie and a half.

00:02:40.000 So I saw... I had to go see the Endgame movie.

00:02:43.000 My friends dragged me to that.

00:02:45.000 I saw it.

00:02:46.000 I didn't like it but I saw it.

00:02:47.000 And I saw part of one of the Captain Americas.

00:02:51.000 And it was actually pretty good.

00:02:52.000 I don't, I'd actually, it was the, the winter one?

00:02:56.000 Winter Soldier?

00:02:56.000 Winter Soldier.

00:02:57.000 I saw that one was okay.

00:02:58.000 But generally speaking, there are a few superhero movies I like.

00:03:01.000 I liked Dark Knight.

00:03:03.000 I liked Logan.

00:03:04.000 But the thing is, they're not really superhero movies, right?

00:03:07.000 Those, those are kind of the exceptions.

00:03:09.000 Logan's just a Western, basically.

00:03:11.000 Yeah.

00:03:11.000 So, yeah, I'm not, like, I was thinking.

00:03:14.000 I'm not like a real cool guy.

00:03:16.000 I don't see all the cool Marvel movies.

00:03:19.000 I don't wear a beanie.

00:03:20.000 I was thinking I was going to wear a beanie here today.

00:03:22.000 You sure you should.

00:03:24.000 So the problem, alright I'll just show it.

00:03:25.000 This is not going to look good.

00:03:27.000 My head was not built for a beanie.

00:03:30.000 Over your head phone.

00:03:35.000 It's a maca beanie.

00:03:37.000 I know, I love that.

00:03:38.000 It's Seamus' fault.

00:03:40.000 I could turn it into like a headband, like an 80s headband, but otherwise my head just looks like a peanut.

00:03:46.000 So that's it.

00:03:46.000 I can't be a cool guy and I've accepted my lot in life.

00:03:50.000 All right.

00:03:51.000 I feel like I derailed what you were going to say.

00:03:53.000 You're not a cool guy, but something cool or educational.

00:03:57.000 No, that was it.

00:03:57.000 That was all of it.

00:03:58.000 That was the whole point.

00:03:59.000 Yeah.

00:04:00.000 Thanks.

00:04:00.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:03.000 There's Ian, and then there's me in the corner pushing buttons.

00:04:05.000 It's going to be a really fun show.

00:04:07.000 I'm excited for our cultural commentator here.

00:04:09.000 This should be great.

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00:04:30.000 I've been shouting out this segment we did, with Charlie Ladoff.

00:04:33.000 Because, you know, Charlie was this really funny guy.

00:04:35.000 He's a great guest.

00:04:36.000 He's very smart.

00:04:37.000 He's got a ton of integrity.

00:04:38.000 Everybody was, like, super stoked to see him on.

00:04:40.000 He's this amazing reporter.

00:04:41.000 And then we do this bonus segment with him, and all of a sudden, he gets, like, real somber, and he's like, let me tell you some of these stories about, you know, being on the ground during 9-11.

00:04:49.000 Man, he told me some stuff that sent chills down my spine of what some of these journalists and reporters do.

00:04:54.000 No joke.

00:04:54.000 So, go to ticketmaster.com.

00:04:55.000 Check out the stuff.

00:04:56.000 And I think we'll... You're around for a bonus segment, yeah?

00:05:00.000 We could do a...

00:05:00.000 I'll be around all night.

00:05:01.000 I got nothing else.

00:05:03.000 I got a drink and a cigar waiting for me at the hotel.

00:05:05.000 Otherwise, I'm yours.

00:05:07.000 Well, let's talk about this story.

00:05:09.000 I'm sure many people are probably already familiar with this because this actually came out yesterday afternoon.

00:05:13.000 But I thought it was important enough to kick off the conversation.

00:05:16.000 And I'll just say, I mean, we were already having a pretty crazy philosophical conversation before things got started.

00:05:21.000 But let's talk about, you know, Black Lives Matter, these riots.

00:05:23.000 For those that haven't seen the news, we have this from KARE11.

00:05:27.000 Quote, I wish it didn't have to happen.

00:05:29.000 Alternate juror reflects on Derek Chauvin trial.

00:05:31.000 Now, the first and most important thing is she didn't know she was an alternate.

00:05:34.000 She was in the trial the same as everyone else, treating exactly the same as any other juror.

00:05:38.000 It was only once they announced deliberations, he said, juror 96 and juror, you know, so-and-so, you are our alternates, you can go.

00:05:46.000 And that's when she was like, okay.

00:05:48.000 So her mentality, I believe, is indicative of the views of many of the other jurors.

00:05:55.000 However, to be fair, this is the juror who lived in Brooklyn Center where the Dante Wright riots were happening.

00:05:59.000 Yeah.

00:06:00.000 She literally had to drive through the riots on the way to court. 0.99

00:06:03.000 We have this, uh, so this is an interview and we have this, uh, let me, let me just, let me just read.

00:06:09.000 Raguse, the journalist says, quote, did you want to be a juror?

00:06:13.000 And the juror says, I had mixed feelings.

00:06:17.000 There was a question on the questionnaire about it.

00:06:19.000 And I put, I did not know the reason.

00:06:21.000 At the time was I did not know what the outcome was going to be.

00:06:24.000 So I felt like either way you're going to disappoint one group or the other.

00:06:28.000 I did not want to go through rioting and destruction again.

00:06:31.000 And I was concerned about people coming to my house if they were not happy with the verdict.

00:06:36.000 Do you think this lady reasonably feared Trump supporters or conservatives rioting and showing up at her house?

00:06:41.000 I think she feared insurrectionists, and I know that we're supposed to believe that Trump supporters are the insurrectionists, but we did see an insurrection last year.

00:06:50.000 We saw it go on for months.

00:06:52.000 We saw it go on not just in one city or two cities, it went on around the country.

00:06:55.000 It didn't just target government buildings, it targeted private businesses and private citizens, resulted in deaths, arson, terrorism.

00:07:03.000 What else do you call it?

00:07:04.000 Terrorism is when you target civilians to achieve a political end.

00:07:08.000 And look, I get why she feared it.

00:07:10.000 I mean, there was a Babylon Bee headline right before the verdict came out.

00:07:13.000 It said the jurors read their last will and test.

00:07:16.000 Because, of course.

00:07:18.000 And so should this have led to a mistrial?

00:07:21.000 Right. That was the big question.

00:07:23.000 Yep. Maxine Waters calls for riots. 1.00

00:07:25.000 Joe Biden later on.

00:07:26.000 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've interrupted.

00:07:27.000 Maxine Waters incited insurrection.

00:07:29.000 Yes, I'm sorry, incited an insurrection.

00:07:32.000 Joe Biden, same thing.

00:07:33.000 He put his thumb on the scales for the jury.

00:07:36.000 And ultimately they go to convict him because they wouldn't rule a mistrial.

00:07:41.000 You remember the judge said, well, hey, this is bad.

00:07:45.000 You know, I wish Waters didn't do that.

00:07:47.000 But anyway, it's OK.

00:07:49.000 They're probably not reading the news, so we're not going to have a mistrial.

00:07:51.000 But I bet you got something on appeal.

00:07:53.000 So what he's saying, when he says, I bet you got something on appeal, he's saying, I should declare a mistrial, but I'm too cowardly because I don't want them to burn down my house.

00:08:01.000 And so here's my only point on it is, okay, this juror comes out and says, yeah, I was terrified of the mob killing me and burning down my city.

00:08:09.000 Why is the judge on the appeal going to feel any differently than the judge during the trial going to feel any differently than the jurors?

00:08:17.000 Everyone's afraid of this terrorist left-wing mob because they not only are making the threats, they're credible threats because they already did it and they already got away with it.

00:08:27.000 It's terrorism.

00:08:28.000 And the funny thing is they're bragging about it on Twitter.

00:08:31.000 There's a meme right now.

00:08:32.000 So I tweeted something like, I said like, holy S, you know, and a quote from the lady saying, I didn't want to go through the riots.

00:08:40.000 And some leftist posts a meme where it's, you know, the guy sweating and the two buttons.

00:08:44.000 And it said, violence doesn't solve anything.

00:08:46.000 The riots caused the show to invert.

00:08:48.000 I'm like, you're encouraging the right to get violent?

00:08:51.000 Like I'm trying to tell people not to get violent because you don't want violence.

00:08:55.000 And here you have the left gloating and bragging that they engaged in acts of terrorism.

00:09:00.000 I'll tell you what's scary though is.

00:09:03.000 I guess, for one, I don't really think it's a conservative and liberal thing.

00:09:09.000 I think the issue is, I often describe it as politically initiated and uninitiated.

00:09:13.000 So why is it that, you know, I'm a fairly moderate kind of, you know, left-leaning libertarian type, and we're laughing and agreeing, it's because we both know true facts.

00:09:22.000 There's probably some things we disagree on in terms of what we think may be real, But as individuals who are discerning of the news and seeking out the truth, we both know certain facts.

00:09:32.000 The riots exist.

00:09:33.000 They terrify people.

00:09:34.000 It's for a political goal.

00:09:35.000 We might disagree on policy, but we agree on what's happening in this country.

00:09:39.000 But most of these liberals and these people who are voting for Democrats have no idea.

00:09:43.000 They don't pay attention.

00:09:45.000 In their defense, by the way, Tim, let's just take that story that happened two days ago in Columbus, where the cop shot the girl who was stabbing the other girl.

00:09:54.000 about to stab I'm sorry yeah about it was it was just all well and good that kind of you know you're a kid you there's no way to know you don't know it's a little innocent shanking between friends and so if you were just a regular American Right, a regular kind of liberal American, you don't watch your show, you don't watch my show, you're, you know, maybe you don't watch podcasts.

00:10:18.000 Maybe you watch network news, which is still the way millions of Americans get their news.

00:10:22.000 And you watch NBC, and you watch Lester Holtz broadcast the nightly news.

00:10:28.000 You would not have seen the knife.

00:10:30.000 They edited out the knife.

00:10:32.000 They played the clip.

00:10:33.000 The girl is about to shank the other girl. 1.00

00:10:36.000 They freeze the frame, but keep the audio going so the knife is out of the frame and all you hear is bang, bang, bang, bang.

00:10:42.000 The girl goes down.

00:10:43.000 And then in the news report they say, and the police officers say she was holding a knife.

00:10:49.000 A knife was later found on the ground.

00:10:50.000 And they show a picture of the knife on the ground?

00:10:52.000 On the ground.

00:10:53.000 So it's not their fault that they're being lied to.

00:10:55.000 So I think I talked about this last week.

00:10:57.000 There was a clip from Mike.com.

00:10:59.000 I'm at a Trump rally in Janesville, Wisconsin.

00:11:01.000 This is back in like 2015 or 2016.

00:11:04.000 This young woman was arguing with an older man.

00:11:07.000 And everyone's raucous and in a crowd.

00:11:09.000 And she's yelling, he touched my breast, he touched my breast. 0.53

00:11:11.000 And the old guy has his hands up saying, I did not touch you, I didn't touch you.

00:11:14.000 She punches him in the face.

00:11:16.000 And then someone else pepper sprays her.

00:11:18.000 Mike.com.

00:11:20.000 added a flare as if they were doing an edit because it was the weirdest thing ever.

00:11:25.000 She goes, he touched my breast, he touched my breast. 0.97

00:11:27.000 And then the screen flashes white to cover up the punch.

00:11:31.000 And then it shows her getting pepper sprayed.

00:11:33.000 And the story they run is woman, sexual, you know, teenager is sexually assaulted and then pepper sprayed by Trump supporters.

00:11:38.000 And I'm like, man, that's the news we get.

00:11:43.000 And the problem is, you know, my pal Andrew Klavan makes this point a lot.

00:11:47.000 When we read the news or we watch a news story about something that we know about, we can look at it and say, hmm, yeah, that doesn't sound right to me.

00:11:55.000 No, I actually know that's not true.

00:11:57.000 No, I actually have my own lion eyes here, you know, and I knew that that was not true.

00:12:01.000 But then when we get to another story where we don't, I don't know, Iran or something, right?

00:12:04.000 Something I'm not an expert on.

00:12:06.000 We just take their word for it.

00:12:09.000 The thing we know about, we know they're lying to us, but then the rest, oh, who knows?

00:12:12.000 That's the Gelman amnesia effect. 0.94

00:12:14.000 Yes.

00:12:14.000 Have you heard that?

00:12:15.000 So there was a guy who said he was going to name it after two smart people so it sounds official.

00:12:20.000 So I don't know.

00:12:21.000 I don't know.

00:12:22.000 I don't remember who actually coined the phrase, but man, it rings true. 1.00

00:12:26.000 Iran is a really great example.

00:12:28.000 When I see CNN say something like, you know, Hezbollah has done this, I just go like, I guess. 0.98

00:12:33.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:12:33.000 And then I watch them talk about the riots and they're like, peaceful protesters burned down the city.

00:12:37.000 And I'm like, it must have been peaceful.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, it might.

00:12:39.000 Yes.

00:12:40.000 Is Hezbollah good? 0.91

00:12:41.000 I don't know.

00:12:42.000 I don't think that's the case, but who knows what they're lying about, you know?

00:12:45.000 Right.

00:12:45.000 Yeah.

00:12:45.000 And so, especially when it comes to foreign policy, we get into wars because of it, because the American people are just, I guess I just trust it.

00:12:53.000 And so that's kind of why I think the easiest example of This is true.

00:12:59.000 The real political divide, or I shouldn't say the real, but one of the strongest, is do you actually pay attention to the worldly affairs?

00:13:06.000 Because you and I will disagree on politics, but we agree on what's happening with the world, which allows us to, you know, applying a standard American moral framework, come to similar conclusions on what should or shouldn't be.

00:13:16.000 Yeah.

00:13:16.000 And there's also, if you really want to get woke to the political scene, one has to recognize there is a difference between how the government is supposed to work and how the government works on paper and how the government actually works and the kind of real ruling establishment.

00:13:31.000 And actually the right wing is finally waking up to this a little bit.

00:13:35.000 When you know for 20 years the right-wing talked about how there's the you know The public and the private and the government and business and you know public government bad Private business good and yeah, maybe this woke multinational corporation is undermining our entire country and culture, but but they're good They're good Company give money to company give tax cut to company and government even though the government is an expression of our own political wills through Through our elected representatives.

00:14:01.000 We hope when it's working bad, right?

00:14:03.000 but now What is Google?

00:14:06.000 Is Google a private company?

00:14:08.000 No, by squishy Republicans we were told Google's a private company for a long time.

00:14:12.000 That doesn't seem that private to me.

00:14:14.000 When three billionaire oligarchs control the flow of information in a republic where speech is politics, right? 0.78

00:14:20.000 It's the same thing.

00:14:20.000 The way we govern ourselves is we persuade one another of things.

00:14:23.000 If three companies are controlling that, that, practically speaking, is the government.

00:14:28.000 You know, I go back and forth on this sometimes, depending on the news, depending on, you know, how it's, it's hard to gauge whether we are winning or losing.

00:14:35.000 And by we, I mean, the people who believe in individual rights, free expression.

00:14:38.000 And, uh, I guess.

00:14:41.000 I think we're losing.

00:14:41.000 Classic.

00:14:42.000 I don't want to bring down everything here.

00:14:44.000 Well, you know, so, you know, there was a funny comment earlier.

00:14:48.000 Someone in the chat said they saw Michael in the title and they were hoping for malice, but they got nulls instead.

00:14:52.000 Real nice.

00:14:53.000 Real nice guys.

00:14:56.000 But Michael Malice is of the opinion that we're winning.

00:14:59.000 And there's good reasons to think so.

00:15:02.000 Like, YouTube just relaxed its rules on community guidelines and monetization.

00:15:07.000 Some of them give people pause, like you're now allowed to show police brutality videos and monetize them, which is...

00:15:13.000 That's actually the other direction.

00:15:15.000 It popularizes the myth of police going around hunting minorities and things like that.

00:15:19.000 But they also have now opened it up to more adult-themed content, to put it mildly, like news coverage, very serious issues, swearing even.

00:15:28.000 And so maybe that's a move in the right direction.

00:15:30.000 I wonder, though, if some of the relaxation is just because the election passed.

00:15:35.000 This is why.

00:15:36.000 The election's over.

00:15:37.000 They're always really nice to us when it doesn't matter, you know?

00:15:41.000 But when it really does matter, they... I mean, I think we actually did see them cross the Rubicon during the... shortly after the election, during the litigation, where some hipster Rasputin, this guy with the nose ring in Silicon Valley, deplatformed the duly elected sitting president of the United States.

00:15:59.000 Regardless of what you think happened in the election, the guy's the president, and this Oligarch took him out and he could take him out and it wasn't just him they all worked in concert with one another and I Sort I mean this is actually a lot of the topic of my my book my second book But my first book with words, which is called speechless and it's it's about this this problem of free speech 0.73

00:16:21.000 What is it?

00:16:22.000 You know, I think it gets back to your point, Tim, which is so right.

00:16:25.000 The reason that I think we keep losing ground and we lose ground, and maybe they pat us on the head and they're nice to us when it doesn't matter, but we still keep losing, is because we are only thinking about ourselves.

00:16:36.000 We're only thinking about this individualist, hyper-individualist ideology.

00:16:41.000 We're only thinking about the debate as one between free speech and censorship, when I don't think it's that.

00:16:46.000 I think it's a debate between competing sets of standards And it actually leads us into a trap.

00:16:51.000 This, I think, conservatives fall for this trap.

00:16:54.000 I think the left understands free speech way better than conservatives do.

00:16:58.000 I think we kid ourselves when we pretend that we understand it better.

00:17:01.000 And the trap is this.

00:17:03.000 Political correctness tries to destroy the old order.

00:17:07.000 That's all it wants to do.

00:17:07.000 It wants to, all the old rituals, all the old, it wants to get rid of it.

00:17:10.000 And conservatives react one of two ways.

00:17:12.000 Either we go along with it.

00:17:13.000 That's what the squishes do. 1.00

00:17:14.000 And they say, oh, who cares?

00:17:15.000 Oh, it's not a big deal.

00:17:17.000 Actually, drag queen story hour is a blessing of liberty. 0.96

00:17:20.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:17:20.000 You know, it's that kind of thing.

00:17:22.000 But the second way we respond, which I think we've probably all fallen into this camp at various times, myself certainly included, is we'll say, OK, no, I'm not going along.

00:17:32.000 Because I'm a free speech absolutist.

00:17:35.000 I'm a free expression whatever absolutist.

00:17:38.000 And so no one can ever tell me that this is better than that or this is more true than that.

00:17:44.000 I'm going to be able to do whatever I want.

00:17:46.000 And so you disavow standards altogether.

00:17:49.000 Either way, either way, the radical leftists get what they want.

00:17:52.000 I think I am one of the worst possible things for conservatives in the long run in that, and I've maintained this for years.

00:18:05.000 So when I first started doing YouTube, the people at Google that I was working with were like their liberal liaisons and stuff.

00:18:14.000 And I know a lot of people at Google.

00:18:15.000 And then eventually they started calling me a centrist.

00:18:18.000 I was, I was, you know, and they say, you know, you're changing.

00:18:21.000 And I'm like, my videos from 2014 are of the same opinion.

00:18:23.000 I did a video in 2014 about, you know, a segregated graduation ceremony.

00:18:26.000 That was wrong.

00:18:27.000 I think we shouldn't segregate.

00:18:28.000 My opinions are relatively the same.

00:18:29.000 In fact, I've become more liberty minded.

00:18:31.000 And actually I took the political compass test.

00:18:33.000 I'll actually move further to the left ideologically.

00:18:36.000 But they keep calling me, they first say, Tim's, oh, Tim's a liberal.

00:18:40.000 He's not a progressive.

00:18:41.000 Then they say, he's a centrist.

00:18:43.000 Now they're calling me right wing. 1.00

00:18:44.000 You're a fascist. 0.94

00:18:46.000 Well, they don't call me fascist, right? 0.99

00:18:47.000 This is why I say I'm one of the worst things for conservatives.

00:18:50.000 I think the reason why YouTube likes what I do, and I have a good go of things, when they ban conservatives, they want to make sure that conservatives stay on platform.

00:19:01.000 And so there has to be something that's semi-acceptable to some conservatives.

00:19:05.000 There are a lot of people who are conservatives who, like, I disagree with Tim, but, you know, I'll watch his show.

00:19:10.000 But what happens when they get rid of Crowder? 0.99

00:19:11.000 Right. Then the people who are on who are on YouTube who remain will be like, I'll still watch Tim,

00:19:15.000 but then they're going to get a more liberal viewpoint.

00:19:17.000 That's rotating the wheel and spinning and pushing the overton window to the left. I don't

00:19:21.000 literally think I'm the worst thing for conservatives. I think we do good work here to try and be

00:19:25.000 fair to everybody, but they're trying to rotate the wheel so that centrist becomes far right and

00:19:31.000 actual liberals become conservative.

00:19:33.000 And then that is so perceptive.

00:19:35.000 I mean, because basically what you're seeing happening in real time is what Reagan said.

00:19:39.000 I didn't leave my party, my party left me.

00:19:41.000 You're seeing that happen to you.

00:19:42.000 But you're also, you're self-aware enough to realize They're doing it with you.

00:19:48.000 You actually are the evidence of that Overton window shifting.

00:19:52.000 And well, that's the point, though, is the Overton window, right?

00:19:54.000 Which is, I think that sometimes conservatives, and I've been guilty of this myself years past, we pretend that there is a thing, total, absolute, 100% free speech.

00:20:07.000 That's the American way, isn't it?

00:20:09.000 No.

00:20:09.000 It never has been.

00:20:10.000 It never will be.

00:20:11.000 There have always been broad swaths of speech in America that you're not allowed to say.

00:20:15.000 Sedition.

00:20:16.000 Fraud.

00:20:17.000 Fighting words.

00:20:18.000 And why?

00:20:19.000 Obscenity actually is a really big one.

00:20:21.000 George Carlin.

00:20:22.000 Seven words you can't say on TV?

00:20:23.000 Seven words you can't say on TV?

00:20:24.000 Now you have to say those words on TV.

00:20:26.000 But why were you not allowed to say those things?

00:20:29.000 Because all of those things—fraud, obscenity—are speech that undermines speech, at least in the understanding of the Founding Fathers and, I think, of the smartest people on this issue for all time.

00:20:42.000 In the 1950s, you'd get canceled for being a communist.

00:20:45.000 Today, you will get canceled for not being a communist.

00:20:49.000 There's always going to be some kind of cancelling.

00:20:50.000 There's always going to be things you can't say and you can't do.

00:20:53.000 But look at how that has shifted.

00:20:56.000 Look at the way that... In the 1950s, if you burned an American flag, you might be taken up on the Smith Act.

00:21:02.000 What was the Smith Act?

00:21:02.000 The Smith Act was an anti-communist act.

00:21:05.000 But, you know, we've had these sorts of bills going back to the founding.

00:21:08.000 Not particularly with communism, but with all sorts of subversive ideologies.

00:21:13.000 Today, if you could go out, you could burn a flag in the streets, and the left has gotten the conservatives to defend that, to celebrate that.

00:21:22.000 Nothing more American than burning the American flag.

00:21:24.000 That's a big cultural victory for the left.

00:21:26.000 But here's the thing.

00:21:27.000 I've always been a liberal, and I think people have a right to free speech.

00:21:31.000 So long as it's their own property, they can burn it.

00:21:33.000 Now, like I said, they're trying to call me a conservative.

00:21:36.000 The people on Twitter are like, Tim's a right-winger, you right-wingers.

00:21:39.000 Now, the funny thing is, I got called left by a right-wing outlet, and right by a left-wing outlet, and so I just, like, screenshot it and put it on Twitter, and I'm like, I have found the singularity, like, people don't realize centrism exists, and they think centrism is, like, agreeing with the worst parts of, like, you know, the left and the right.

00:21:54.000 No, it's like, agreeing that some people on the right have it right, and some people on the left have some good points.

00:21:58.000 There's something very conservative, by the way, about centrism.

00:22:01.000 I mean, I'm slightly to the right of Genghis Khan, but there's something really Burke-ian, something really conservative about centrism.

00:22:09.000 It's actually what I tried to do.

00:22:11.000 This was kind of the beginning idea for my book.

00:22:15.000 I wanted to take the left-wing intellectuals seriously.

00:22:19.000 Because, you know, we do this all the time on the right.

00:22:20.000 We say, oh, you know, the critical theorists, they're, I hate them, or Marx, or, you know, Gramsci, or whoever it is, Marcuse, right?

00:22:29.000 But no one actually engages with them.

00:22:30.000 And the thing about those guys, those radical left theorists, is they're super-duper intelligent, which is why they've been so successful and we keep losing.

00:22:41.000 You know, I love quoting Marx when I can, to prove points about liberty, for instance.

00:22:47.000 To be honest, there's only one I can actually reference, and it's, under no pretext shall arms and ammunition be surrendered.

00:22:53.000 The working class should frustrate this by force if necessary. 0.99

00:22:58.000 And so I tweeted, under no pretext shall the right to keep and bear arms be infringed with a picture of an M16 on a trans flag.

00:23:06.000 Because I'm like, freedom, liberty, and guns.

00:23:10.000 There is no question.

00:23:10.000 If Marx were alive today, he would be on the alt-right.

00:23:13.000 There's no question about it.

00:23:14.000 He would.

00:23:14.000 I'm serious.

00:23:15.000 I'm not even joking.

00:23:16.000 You're right.

00:23:17.000 He's going to be like a Biden liberal establishment neolib.

00:23:20.000 I don't think so.

00:23:20.000 No, he was racist.

00:23:24.000 He was.

00:23:24.000 It's funny.

00:23:25.000 And he really didn't like the Jews, even though he was. 0.98

00:23:29.000 He's a racist, anti-Semite, who believed in owning guns. 0.96

00:23:33.000 It's closer to alt-right than you're gonna get to anybody on the left. 0.87

00:23:36.000 Actually, you know, we were talking about Seamus from Freedom Tunes, because he was just here, but he has a very, very popular cartoon you may have seen, where the woke left, desperate to stop the Nazis, use a time machine to bring World War II soldiers to the future.

00:23:48.000 And then when they try explaining to them what's happening, the soldiers...

00:23:54.000 They're like, you know, our president is a fascist and then they give him a brochure and then the World War II soldiers go, Oh my, what? 0.89

00:24:02.000 Your president supports gay marriage? 0.98

00:24:04.000 It's like the World War II soldiers were ridiculously conservative. 0.96

00:24:08.000 Yeah.

00:24:09.000 Well, certainly by the, I mean, by the standards of today, like Will and Grace was ridiculously conservative, right?

00:24:15.000 Because Hemingway describes this in Sun Also Rises.

00:24:18.000 He's talking about how you go bankrupt.

00:24:20.000 He says, how'd you go bankrupt?

00:24:21.000 And the guy says, gradually, then suddenly.

00:24:24.000 And that, you know, we've kind of gone through this gradually period, which is, I don't know, 60s, 70s, 80s.

00:24:31.000 It seems to me like we are very much in the suddenly phase.

00:24:35.000 I mean just think about we went from Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton saying marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman to if you don't castrate your child you're a bigot. 0.92

00:24:44.000 Come on trans the kids bigot. 0.88

00:24:46.000 We did that in like six years or something.

00:24:49.000 This is where I think an interesting thing happens.

00:24:52.000 You're substantially more conservative than I am, but I, as a traditional American liberal over the past couple decades, have a red line on what I think does and doesn't make sense.

00:25:03.000 So I was a big fan of Tulsi Gabbard.

00:25:05.000 And what did Tulsi Gabbard say?

00:25:06.000 She said, safe, legal, but rare when it came to abortion. 0.94

00:25:09.000 And so that was where the liberals were 10 years before.

00:25:12.000 So something happened, and I think it has a lot to do with social media, where, well, it's a combination of things, but I do think social media played a huge role in the rapid leftization, or whatever you want to call it, of the establishment, to where, like, I voted for Obama the first time because of the war issue.

00:25:31.000 I didn't vote for him the second time.

00:25:32.000 I consider myself to be, you know, younger, anarchy, leftist, got older, kind of learned some things, and then was like, I'm a liberal.

00:25:39.000 Then I got older and I was like, actually, I should open my mind and listen to people

00:25:42.000 of all different backgrounds.

00:25:44.000 And I see these things happening with like, uh, it was the, I think Michelle Wolf is her

00:25:48.000 name, the comedian where she goes on her Netflix show and she goes, you get an abortion and

00:25:53.000 I was like, that scares me because like the argument that I understood growing up from

00:25:59.000 a very liberal family was safe, legal, rare.

00:26:02.000 It was supposed to be a medical thing where your doctor is here to help you.

00:26:05.000 But you know why it changed.

00:26:07.000 And I actually have sympathy for the left on this as to why it changed.

00:26:11.000 Because everybody recognized that abortion is not a thing you want.

00:26:16.000 You don't want more of it, right?

00:26:17.000 I mean, everybody, even if you support legal abortion, you don't go celebrate it.

00:26:23.000 But they do now.

00:26:25.000 And it's because the legal and rare issue raise this question of what is an abortion.

00:26:30.000 If it has any moral similarity to murder, then it shouldn't be legal.

00:26:34.000 If it isn't morally similar to murder, then there's no reason for it to be rare.

00:26:37.000 And I think they couldn't stand the kind of gnawing shame of that.

00:26:43.000 And there's a lot of different places the shame could come from.

00:26:46.000 And they couldn't, it had to be, never with the left do they merely want you to tolerate them.

00:26:53.000 Never do they merely want you to accept them.

00:26:55.000 You must affirm them.

00:26:57.000 You must validate every single desire that they want.

00:27:01.000 And so, very quickly, on a whole host of issues, not just abortion, you go from, hey, I have this disorder desire, please just tolerate it, to, if you don't take your kids to watch me do this thing, and you don't put it on Nickelodeon shows, then you're a bigot and there's no true equity in the world.

00:27:18.000 Or there was the dad in Canada who got arrested for not using the proper pronouns for his...

00:27:23.000 Child.

00:27:24.000 Child, yeah.

00:27:25.000 That's the safe way to say it.

00:27:26.000 Well, no, because I don't know what the actual gender of the child is, because depending on which source you read, they'll say something different.

00:27:33.000 So, you know, you'll read the New York Times, and it'll say the man's daughter, and then you'll read, say, the Daily Wire, and it'll say the man's son.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, right.

00:27:42.000 But you see, this is us.

00:27:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:43.000 That issue to me is why it all is so important.

00:27:47.000 The thing that drives me craziest are these conservatives who they're there.

00:27:50.000 They're in that latter group of people with PC where they say, oh, come on, you

00:27:53.000 know, you do you.

00:27:55.000 I'm not going to. It doesn't affect me.

00:27:56.000 Do whatever you want. Just don't raise my taxes or whatever.

00:27:59.000 It does.

00:28:01.000 If there are very few people who are men who think that they're women or vice

00:28:05.000 versa, very, very few people.

00:28:06.000 It's a social contagion also beyond the psychological issue.

00:28:09.000 So it is growing, especially among younger people.

00:28:11.000 But taking that aside, it's still a small number of people.

00:28:14.000 If. If I can know if I can't make a claim about objective reality that you will

00:28:23.000 respect and you can't make a claim about objective reality that I will respect in

00:28:26.000 something as fundamental as the most basic distinction of human nature, who is a

00:28:31.000 boy and who's a girl?

00:28:33.000 Then we can't communicate, right?

00:28:36.000 Language, it's symbols that we use to refer to objective reality and try to shape the kind of world that we want to live in and recognize reality.

00:28:47.000 If we cannot do that, there is no self-government.

00:28:51.000 There is no logic to this place.

00:28:52.000 It's just warring bands of interests.

00:28:56.000 The interesting thing about when it comes to, and this is a really obviously dangerous subject for YouTube, especially, you know, it's like walking on ice because they're ready to just hit the nuke button.

00:29:05.000 But I was reading something about, um, I can't remember what it was.

00:29:08.000 It was a year or so ago about a world, world-class athlete who had won some competitions.

00:29:15.000 The individual used he, him pronouns, but was biologically female.

00:29:20.000 It completely altered the context of everything because In certain sporting events, I can tell you who the world-class top athletes are.

00:29:31.000 There's probably several names in, say, the WNBA you've probably never heard of. 0.93

00:29:35.000 Probably more than several.

00:29:37.000 Right.

00:29:38.000 Well then.

00:29:41.000 I don't know if it was you tweeted that joke and I tweeted the family guy clip.

00:29:44.000 Maybe it wasn't you.

00:29:45.000 Was it you?

00:29:46.000 I did see the clip.

00:29:47.000 I forget if I tweeted it or not.

00:29:50.000 We'll use the WNBA as an example. 0.98

00:29:52.000 LeBron James, particularly woke in many ways and pro-CCP.

00:29:57.000 And we all know he's like the cream of the crop, the best of the best, they say.

00:30:00.000 He commands hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

00:30:03.000 Let's say you have, and again I'm saying this with the utmost respect, I'm trying to explain a concept of linguistics and understanding of reality.

00:30:10.000 Let's say you have a WNBA player who is called the top of her league, the best of the best, commanding the highest salary in the league.

00:30:19.000 And then the person comes out as trans.

00:30:21.000 So in the encyclopedia, encyclopedia, they change all the pronouns from she to he and him.

00:30:26.000 Yeah.

00:30:26.000 Now it says he commands the highest salary in the league.

00:30:29.000 He won all of the greatest championships.

00:30:31.000 And it really changes the context because now it sounds like they're actually above LeBron James.

00:30:36.000 Right.

00:30:36.000 So I need to be able to understand the context.

00:30:39.000 And these things matter.

00:30:41.000 Well, it matters to the very essence of the society.

00:30:46.000 I mean, you know, you love philosophy.

00:30:48.000 And so this There's this very shallow idea that, you know, you keep your religion out of my politics.

00:30:54.000 Look, man, that's... to quote the dude, man, that's just your opinion, man, you know, so don't... we're just going to talk about taxes or whatever.

00:31:01.000 No.

00:31:03.000 All laws legislate morality.

00:31:06.000 All human conflict, ultimately, is theological.

00:31:08.000 You know, there's the Breitbart Doctrine, which is politics is downstream of culture.

00:31:11.000 Culture is downstream of religion.

00:31:12.000 Cult and culture, they come from the same root word.

00:31:14.000 Ultimately, we're talking about first principles, who we are.

00:31:17.000 The traditional understanding for our whole civilization, everywhere, everywhere in the world, certainly in this country, is that we are, you know, body and soul.

00:31:27.000 And, yes.

00:31:28.000 I'll move, I'll bring you back to one more root, and that's religion is, you know, comes after moral frameworks.

00:31:34.000 Yeah, well yeah, exactly.

00:31:35.000 No, this is actually a perfect way to put it, as moral frameworks.

00:31:40.000 If I'm going to explain human nature, in the old way, I'd say I'm body and soul, right?

00:31:45.000 And for the purposes of a lot of public policy, I might just be body.

00:31:47.000 But not for all public policy.

00:31:48.000 You know, why is sexual assault worse than any other kind of assault?

00:31:52.000 Because we're more than just our bodies, right?

00:31:54.000 There's a kind of human dignity that's being violated here.

00:31:57.000 Okay, fine.

00:31:57.000 That's the, to use the technical term, the hylomorphic view of human nature.

00:32:02.000 There's the materialist view, which is just we're meat puppets.

00:32:05.000 And then there's the transgender view, which is an ancient heresy. 1.00

00:32:07.000 It's called Gnostic dualism.

00:32:09.000 It's the idea that my true self has nothing to do with my body.

00:32:13.000 So I might look like a dude.

00:32:14.000 I got a deep voice.

00:32:15.000 I got the Adam's apple, various other appendages.

00:32:18.000 But if on some deep metaphysical level, I feel myself to be a woman, Not only is it sort of complicated, you know, and I'm a little bit... I'm just a woman.

00:32:28.000 Because my self, my actual self, has nothing to do with my body.

00:32:32.000 You can't live in a society that simultaneously holds these contradictory views of what human nature is.

00:32:38.000 You've got to decide.

00:32:40.000 Have you seen the Jack Dorsey thing I did with Joe Rogan?

00:32:43.000 Yeah, it was just absolutely magnificent.

00:32:47.000 I appreciate it.

00:32:48.000 It comes up a lot, but I think there was like a very important point that I brought up to Jack, or to Vijaya, and it's that when I said your rules are inherently biased against conservatives, they didn't understand this.

00:33:00.000 And then I said, conservatives view the phrase misgendering differently from the way you view it.

00:33:05.000 And you can argue that you're in the majority, they can argue they're in the majority.

00:33:09.000 How do you rectify that bias you have?

00:33:12.000 If half the country votes for Donald Trump and the other half doesn't, it's fair to say that half the voting body that are active in politics believe that misgendering someone means to use pronouns that don't align with their biological sex.

00:33:24.000 So that's the essentialist view.

00:33:26.000 Then the constructivist view would be the other way around.

00:33:29.000 That misgendering is when you don't use the pronouns that adhere to their self-identification.

00:33:34.000 We right now have an infrastructure that's being built upon you as a conservative.

00:33:39.000 Your worldview is considered wrong, amoral, or fringe.

00:33:43.000 Even though, I think, when you look at the data, it's actually the majority of individuals.

00:33:47.000 Certainly.

00:33:48.000 Which is why I go back to the politically uninitiated versus initiated.

00:33:52.000 My thing comes down to probably, like, more libertarianism in the small L sense, not the libertarian party, because, you know, they get kind of kooky.

00:33:59.000 In that, if someone comes to me and says, here's what I'd like to be called, I say, no problemo.

00:34:04.000 Like, absolutely.

00:34:05.000 And I don't think that Twitter's argument for why they ban people who violence policy is sufficient.

00:34:12.000 I don't think YouTube's is.

00:34:14.000 And I think it's causing serious damage, as you probably agree, to discourse and politics.

00:34:20.000 The argument was that there's a high rate of suicide among trans people therefore.

00:34:23.000 Yeah, and my argument It's not even I'm arguing against the right of individuals to be respected You know, I don't think everyone has a right to just have respect.

00:34:32.000 I do think society My personal opinion is we try to give people the benefit of the doubt towards respecting them until they prove otherwise But it does raise this question which is and and this is actually just as dangerous for society.

00:34:44.000 What is the respect?

00:34:45.000 It seems to me what the conservatives are saying is if I see a man who wants to be called a woman and you call him a man you're showing him respect because you are you're not treating him like a crazy person you're treating him like someone who can understand reality and you're just saying look this is this is how I see it pal it kind of looks like you're a man and if you lie to him then you're being very disrespectful you don't lie to people that you have respect for but I think on the left the argument they're making is lies in this case even if we're all we're gonna all admit you know he's not really a girl but it's nice because it's socially constructed we should all do it

00:35:20.000 Lies are compassionate, and the truth is cruel.

00:35:24.000 And, you know, that's not a great premise for a society to begin with, and it's one that I would certainly reject.

00:35:29.000 I think at the very least it's exactly, you know, everything you outline, the conservative view on why you're actually being respectful, it's exactly the problem with the rules these social media companies have.

00:35:40.000 Yeah.

00:35:42.000 You know what I said to them was, you guys think you're like regular people, but you're not.

00:35:47.000 You're billionaire Silicon Valley elites who are out of touch with this country.

00:35:51.000 Masters of the universe.

00:35:52.000 I'm not saying that you represent a tiny fringe faction or anything like that.

00:35:57.000 There's a lot of people who agree with you, but you don't understand Yeah.

00:36:01.000 that you have not spoken with a Trump supporter or a conservative to understand that half

00:36:05.000 the country disagrees with you and probably more, but you've made rules.

00:36:10.000 So what ends up happening is the more we use these digital spaces, the more we're filtering

00:36:14.000 our worldview through theirs.

00:36:16.000 And to your point about losing, that's probably it.

00:36:19.000 It is because we're I think what Twitter is saying, I mean, you you absolutely wrecked 0.86

00:36:25.000 them and they're being so hypocritical and they're being so disingenuous a lot of the

00:36:30.000 But the fact remains there are going to be rules. 0.86

00:36:34.000 Always have been, always will be to every speech regime.

00:36:37.000 There have to be.

00:36:37.000 There just have to be rules to speech in the sense that if he is really he, then he isn't she.

00:36:42.000 And if he is she, then he's really not he. 0.86

00:36:45.000 And one of us is right and one of us is wrong.

00:36:47.000 But we will have if we're gonna have any kind of society We're going to have to agree on those rules and what is

00:36:52.000 being done now is rather than having them develop Over time out of tradition through the use of our reason by

00:36:59.000 applying reason to the natural world and our perceptions What is being done is a handful of extremely radical people

00:37:07.000 whose whose life experience is very different from all of ours are

00:37:12.000 Upending society right from out from under our feet and there's nothing we can do about it because they own the

00:37:18.000 platforms And they enforce all the rules

00:37:20.000 And you got like Jack Dorsey who sold Twitter basically.

00:37:23.000 He only owns like two or six percent or something of Twitter now and you've got companies like State Street or BlackRock.

00:37:29.000 These giant global investment firms that basically are running the show.

00:37:33.000 And like you said earlier, sedition.

00:37:36.000 Certain types of speech are illegal for a reason.

00:37:38.000 So free speech means we've all agreed we're not going to say certain things.

00:37:42.000 And it's like they've taken on this role of arbiter that they want to decide for us that we can't say certain things because it's dangerous, that it will prevent actual free speech.

00:37:53.000 But I don't think that that's for corporations to decide personally.

00:37:57.000 Not historically in our country, but that is what's happening now.

00:38:00.000 And it's why I think the reason conservatives lose is because the left makes a procedural argument and they make a substantive argument.

00:38:08.000 And what I mean by that is the left has a view of what free speech is in the abstract, and then they're going to enforce certain speech rules.

00:38:16.000 The right has this kind of ahistorical, now we've adopted it over the last 20 years, just like total free speech and there's no limits to anything.

00:38:23.000 But we won't say what we should say.

00:38:25.000 But free speech has no meaning to people who have nothing to say.

00:38:29.000 Freedom of belief has no meaning to people who don't believe anything.

00:38:32.000 You know what the reason I think it's not just conservatives who are losing because obviously to you I'm definitely not a conservative to the right I'm definitely not a conservative to them whatever fine but we are losing and whatever that we is it's a combination of different factions in politics but the reason is Well, I don't think you're interested in lying, cheating, and stealing.

00:38:55.000 I'm certainly not either.

00:38:57.000 I like enlightenment values.

00:38:59.000 I like sitting down and having conversations with people.

00:39:01.000 I believe in respecting... For me, when it comes to pronouns or whatever, I give the benefit of doubt towards respect.

00:39:09.000 I like to sit down and have conversations.

00:39:10.000 I don't like to manipulate people into doing my bidding.

00:39:13.000 However, the issue I have with modern leftism as it stands is the authoritarianism of it, where they believe The moral framework of wokeness is might makes right.

00:39:26.000 Are you familiar with David Graeber?

00:39:27.000 No, I'm not.

00:39:28.000 David Graeber was a very famous anthropologist who didn't like that he was called the anarchist anthropologist.

00:39:34.000 He was one of the influencers who ignited Occupy Wall Street at these meetings.

00:39:39.000 And he passed recently, so rest in peace, David Graeber.

00:39:43.000 He did a Twitter thread a few years ago where he said, elements of the left have begun adopting fascistic ideologies.

00:39:49.000 The idea that there's no truth but power and that might makes right.

00:39:52.000 Yeah.

00:39:53.000 That's my problem with wokeness. 1.00

00:39:54.000 Yeah.

00:39:55.000 That they're basically, there's no rules.

00:39:58.000 I want to know what the rules are so I can respect you.

00:40:00.000 Yeah.

00:40:00.000 But they purposefully have no rules.

00:40:01.000 It's just the imposition is what matters.

00:40:03.000 You know, this point is so important.

00:40:05.000 Someone the other day, well this happens every day, but the other day I responded, someone called me a fascist.

00:40:10.000 And I pointed out, I said, I am way too reactionary to be a fascist.

00:40:15.000 That is like small potatoes.

00:40:17.000 And what I mean by that is, to your point exactly, fascism is an atheistic, statist philosophy that basically just worships the exercise of state power.

00:40:28.000 That doesn't work with my worldview, because I think that there are some things that are true.

00:40:32.000 I think there are eternal truths.

00:40:34.000 There's an eternal moral order.

00:40:35.000 But this is something that conservatives don't want to acknowledge.

00:40:38.000 When I say they don't want to say anything, what I mean is this.

00:40:40.000 You get the squishy types who say, well, look, you know, if we tell Drag Queen Story Hour that they can't twerk for kids at the library, then they might tell us we can't go to church on Sunday.

00:40:50.000 And I say, like, first of all, they're already telling us we can't go to church on Sunday.

00:40:53.000 But second of all, If you cannot distinguish between twerking for toddlers and going to church on Sunday, if you can't say one of those is better than the other one, then you have lost your faculties of judgment, your moral conscience, which is the prerequisite for self-government.

00:41:12.000 At that point, throw in the towel.

00:41:13.000 Well, I'll put it in a different way.

00:41:16.000 Let's say I'm sitting in my arbiter's chair and I see a leftist say, we should be allowed to have Drag Queen Story Hour.

00:41:24.000 And then to my right is a conservative saying we should be allowed to go to church on Sunday.

00:41:28.000 I say, To you and your community on the religious side, you should be allowed to go to church and your community should function as you see moral and fit.

00:41:37.000 And this other group, they live in a different society.

00:41:39.000 If you guys want to have and live your own ways, I respect that.

00:41:42.000 The problem, though, is one group is telling you what you can and can't do because they're trying to impose their will into your community.

00:41:49.000 But in their defense, I am trying to impose my will on theirs. 0.75

00:41:52.000 And what I mean by that is this.

00:41:57.000 Drag Queen Story Hour involves perverts twerking for toddlers, okay? 1.00

00:42:02.000 To put it really bluntly.

00:42:03.000 Well, to clarify too, there's a specific instance in which somebody was... That's what I'm saying.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, I'm not speaking loosely here.

00:42:09.000 I'm saying like an actual, a guy who actually committed these crimes, right?

00:42:13.000 Because, this is so much easier to get into it this way, because it involves children.

00:42:18.000 If a community, you know, look, they've got their own customs, and one of the customs is that they abuse children. 1.00

00:42:24.000 And they twerk for children, and they indoctrinate children into this crazy licentious ideology.

00:42:30.000 But that's their custom, that's what they want to do.

00:42:32.000 Do we not have any right to say, you shouldn't do that?

00:42:36.000 Depends on if you're coming from a... It's hard.

00:42:40.000 It's moral frameworks.

00:42:42.000 I certainly have my red lines.

00:42:44.000 So I look at what happens in some of these foreign countries, and they're shocking to me. 0.99

00:42:48.000 And there's a point where I'm questioning the line of warfare, for instance, what China does to The Uighur Muslims and the women.

00:42:55.000 And I had a very interesting conversation with Cassandra Fairbanks where she said, there's no war, no matter what.

00:43:00.000 Every country does something wrong.

00:43:01.000 Are we going to go to war with everybody?

00:43:03.000 It's a very interesting libertarian argument.

00:43:05.000 And I think she's right about that.

00:43:08.000 Why don't I care about, say, these other countries in Africa where they do atrocities?

00:43:12.000 There are atrocities as well.

00:43:14.000 And so it's a real challenge of where the lines are in terms of the actual physical boundaries where we're going to say we will enforce our morality.

00:43:22.000 Well, I'm sure a line for you would be like the kids stuff.

00:43:25.000 I think this is true, a line for most people, because what do we always say?

00:43:28.000 Kids can't consent.

00:43:30.000 You know, they don't really have mastery of their liberty.

00:43:32.000 That's why we have age of consent laws, because we're not going to let kids do all these sorts of things.

00:43:36.000 The left is trying to At your way at that right now.

00:43:39.000 And I'll clarify too, right?

00:43:40.000 There's the mainstream media portrayal of Drag Queen Story Hour where it's just people in chairs with books.

00:43:46.000 Yeah.

00:43:46.000 And there's the actual videos you see on Twitter where they're twerking for children.

00:43:49.000 Yes.

00:43:50.000 And so there's the argument that I've seen is that twerking is just dancing from a different culture.

00:43:57.000 It's just like a waltz, you know?

00:44:00.000 From a philosophical point of view and from a moral framework standpoint, my question is, Are people who vote for certain things allowed to live certain ways if they choose?

00:44:11.000 And at what point does someone's community get to impose their will on another community?

00:44:14.000 Well, it depends what they're voting for.

00:44:16.000 You know, at one time, I got to meet Scalia a couple times when I was a student.

00:44:20.000 It was amazing.

00:44:20.000 I have no idea how I stumbled into this opportunity.

00:44:23.000 And someone asked him, I think it was a question about the Second Amendment, they asked him, hold on, Mr. Justice, because you're saying that it's this individual right to these guns, but only these guns and not these other guns.

00:44:32.000 How do you decide And his answer, I thought, was deeply conservative and deeply wise.

00:44:36.000 He said, you decide very, very carefully.

00:44:40.000 And I think we need to decide these things very carefully, too.

00:44:44.000 One stumbling block, I think, for a lot of people on this issue is the nature of liberty.

00:44:50.000 What is liberty?

00:44:50.000 You know, right now they're saying that the kid should be able to be castrated if he wants to, because that's his right.

00:44:57.000 That's his liberty if he wants to do it.

00:44:59.000 But then we say, well, kids don't really have liberty because they're not educated, and the whole point of a liberal education is you master your liberty.

00:45:05.000 I think the problem here is this conflation of liberty and licentiousness, meaning the current sort of modern lib view of liberty is that liberty means do whatever you want.

00:45:15.000 Whatever your base desire is, just do whatever you want.

00:45:18.000 And the conservative view of liberty, the view of the founders, the view of the Christian view, the pre-Christian view even, is that liberty is not the ability to do whatever you want.

00:45:26.000 It's the right to do what you ought to do.

00:45:29.000 And what I mean by that is this.

00:45:31.000 I can bring it right down to earth.

00:45:34.000 A heroin addict.

00:45:35.000 Actually, it's a very popular debate on libertarian circles, right?

00:45:39.000 Should you legalize all the drugs?

00:45:40.000 Should the heroin addict be able to do whatever he wants?

00:45:43.000 According to the modern liberal view of liberty, the heroin addict is the most free guy in the world.

00:45:48.000 As long as he's got a buck in his pocket, he can shoot up.

00:45:50.000 That's awesome.

00:45:51.000 He's pursuing his will and his free choice.

00:45:54.000 We all know that that guy's not free. 0.88

00:45:56.000 We all know he's a slave. 0.75

00:45:57.000 He's a slave to his base passions.

00:45:59.000 His higher will, I'm sure, is telling him, I wish I could stop doing this.

00:46:02.000 I hate the heroin.

00:46:03.000 Oh, addicts will tell you this all the time.

00:46:05.000 But his lower appetites, because he hasn't cultivated his higher will, his lower appetites, his licentiousness, desiring all of that.

00:46:12.000 My view of the drug war stuff is...

00:46:14.000 It should be legal insofar as you have to go to designated facilities that regulate and actually wean you off of it.

00:46:21.000 So instead of having someone go in the gutter, they go in for a legal, you know, session or whatever, and they can regulate and limit so that they can actually... With the purpose of getting them off the drug.

00:46:30.000 Right, right.

00:46:31.000 Yeah, that makes more sense.

00:46:32.000 You know, we have methadone clinics and things like that.

00:46:34.000 But there are people who look at, say, Portugal, and they think we should just totally legalize everything.

00:46:38.000 Yeah.

00:46:39.000 I am of the legalize everything with regulation.

00:46:41.000 So it's like or I should say decriminalize with the goal of helping people instead of locking them up in prison or

00:46:47.000 whatever.

00:46:47.000 But even in that view, that isn't exactly my view of it, but even in that view,

00:46:51.000 you are acknowledging the goal should be people do less of this stuff.

00:46:56.000 Absolutely.

00:46:56.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 And I think a lot of people now on the left, they say, it's kind of like the abortion thing, right?

00:47:01.000 It's like, no, we got to celebrate it.

00:47:02.000 We got to shout it.

00:47:03.000 And that's that way lies madness.

00:47:04.000 You know, to me, that whole thing was crazy because, you know, growing up being liberal, what it meant to me and what my understanding of the things we argued for was respecting individual liberties and civil liberties and civil rights.

00:47:18.000 Yeah.

00:47:18.000 Now the modern liberal, whatever that means, does not do that.

00:47:22.000 Yeah.

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 It's, it's, it's well, I mean, they can argue that they are, but it's moved well beyond

00:47:26.000 any point of being responsible in your community to protect individuals.

00:47:31.000 Now it's literally just no rules, no police.

00:47:35.000 But you know why?

00:47:36.000 Burn down the city in Minneapolis or whatever.

00:47:38.000 I can't, I've got to defend the left.

00:47:40.000 I mean, your point is totally right.

00:47:41.000 But their argument, which they really pushed in the 1970s, the radical feminists pushed this, is that the personal is the political.

00:47:49.000 There's this great essay by that name.

00:47:51.000 And this woman recounts how the New York radical women's groups, they would meet up, I refer to them as wine and cheese soirees, you know, these sort of housewives or unmarried women would meet up.

00:48:02.000 But very often when the bourgeois housewife and the mother of two would show up, the woman would go there and she was happy as a clam walking in. 0.75

00:48:09.000 And then during the struggle session they would raise awareness and the woman would leave. 1.00

00:48:15.000 Resentful and irritated and because she's now aware of her own oppression and this is called being liberated and then the women would go out of there. 1.00

00:48:24.000 You know, I used to do nonprofit fundraising and these offices, they hire large groups of people.

00:48:31.000 Yeah.

00:48:31.000 Send us out in the streets to wave at people with clipboards.

00:48:34.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 Hey, do you have a minute to talk about the environment?

00:48:36.000 You've probably seen those people, right?

00:48:39.000 When you come back from your day of hard fundraising on the street, some people aren't of strong mental fortitude.

00:48:47.000 And they would do debriefs.

00:48:47.000 They would always have a manager do a debrief with everyone, one at a time, and then you'd stop it for a debrief, then you'd leave.

00:48:54.000 And what they were really doing was a morality check.

00:48:58.000 If somebody in the office had a bad day, They would walk in and they would have the squiggly line over their head like the comics.

00:49:06.000 And everyone else who maybe had a bad day but wasn't really thinking about it, maybe it was an okay day, maybe it was a good day.

00:49:10.000 They'd all be hanging out after work.

00:49:12.000 The person who had the bad day would stand next to them as they say, like, how was your day?

00:49:15.000 And they'd be like, it was okay for me.

00:49:16.000 And they would go, this is the worst job ever.

00:49:18.000 I hate this job. 0.98

00:49:18.000 Dude, people are so awful. 0.98

00:49:20.000 Dude, I had a guy and he did this to me.

00:49:22.000 And then everyone starts sharing the negativity and it spreads like a virus.

00:49:26.000 So what would happen is they would do a debrief where they would ask people, how was your day?

00:49:30.000 How do you feel?

00:49:31.000 And if a tiny percentage of people were like, I'm just so tired.

00:49:35.000 These people are so awful.

00:49:36.000 They'd fire everyone in the office. 0.98

00:49:40.000 Even there was like, there would be like five people who would remain.

00:49:44.000 And those were like the tough willed, So, I work for these companies.

00:49:48.000 I was a nation's best fundraiser for a variety of these non-profits on the street, convincing people to donate to various charities.

00:49:53.000 I didn't think those guys ever got anybody to sign up at all.

00:49:57.000 That's very impressive.

00:49:58.000 I once got a lady to give me a check for $700 and then give me her bank account numbers to do it every single month. 1.00

00:50:05.000 So like, when you have the gift of gab, when you can talk, when you can... Yeah.

00:50:09.000 I'm in the wrong line of work, man.

00:50:11.000 That's great.

00:50:11.000 No, I think you're in the right line of work.

00:50:13.000 This stuff was dirty.

00:50:14.000 It's the opposite of what we're doing.

00:50:16.000 You're speaking your truth.

00:50:18.000 You're explaining how you feel and how you want to, you know, your goals towards improving things.

00:50:22.000 This was the opposite.

00:50:23.000 This was tricking people.

00:50:25.000 And that's why I ended up leaving when I realized they were full of it.

00:50:28.000 To your point though about, you know, uh, I guess we're talking about like negativity spreading and this mentality spreading.

00:50:33.000 Sort of, yeah.

00:50:33.000 New York radical women, personals and political.

00:50:36.000 Yeah.

00:50:36.000 They'd come out feeling all angry.

00:50:37.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 You take a bunch of people who are happy and excited for their job and you put them in a room and you're good.

00:50:43.000 But one person gets negative and then within a week, everyone's performance dropped dramatically.

00:50:49.000 And do you see what that company understood?

00:50:52.000 Is that the personal is the political.

00:50:53.000 So if you have a company full of pissed off people, then you're gonna have a bad company.

00:51:00.000 And if you have a country, to get back to that earlier example, you have a country full of heroin addicts, it doesn't matter how wonderfully written your constitution is and how beautiful your Supreme Court building is, if your nation is full of individuals who are atrophied and sick and disordered, You're going to have a bad country. 0.98

00:51:18.000 And we have an opioid crisis.

00:51:20.000 I mean, it's not.

00:51:20.000 And that's a literal.

00:51:21.000 Yeah, right.

00:51:22.000 That's a literal.

00:51:22.000 Yeah.

00:51:23.000 So it's remarkable how easy it is to spread anger and negativity and how hard it is to stop it or spread the positivity.

00:51:31.000 It's what they call runaway breakdown in science, where one electron in a cloud of plasma will go and then all the other ones follow it rapidly and cause lightning.

00:51:39.000 As we know, that's the formation of lightning.

00:51:41.000 And because electrons are such lightweight, they move and they follow each other very quickly relative to the proton.

00:51:46.000 Let's, let's, let's do this.

00:51:47.000 Let's segue.

00:51:48.000 This is a hard segue, but I want to talk about, um, one of the articles from the Daily Wire about, uh, wokeness in movies.

00:51:56.000 And I do think it's relevant because I think what we're seeing in commercial industry and in movies and shows is this kind of, you're in a room with 30 other people and one person's pissed off.

00:52:07.000 Yeah.

00:52:07.000 It's happened to our country.

00:52:08.000 It sounds like Twitter.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:10.000 It is.

00:52:11.000 And the reason why I think we're seeing movies and commercials and marketing go this direction is, one, there has been a liberal bias in the establishment media for a long time, academia, and that meant, I think it's probably, you know, following civil rights, because I think everybody, for the most part, today in America, objectively believes civil rights were a good thing.

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:34.000 There's probably a handful of people.

00:52:36.000 But there's probably a handful of people.

00:52:38.000 There's few and far between.

00:52:40.000 But no, on the left and the right.

00:52:41.000 Right.

00:52:42.000 You have left identitarians who, you know, when I was in, I think, Baltimore 0.77

00:52:46.000 during the riots, they actually were circulating a discussion about why the

00:52:50.000 end, this is Black Lives Matter, saying ending segregation was bad.

00:52:53.000 It was wrong.

00:52:53.000 They genuinely thought so.

00:52:55.000 So anyway, I digress.

00:52:56.000 Because of that, everything sort of flowed in that direction.

00:52:59.000 And if you're in the mainstream media, that's what's acceptable.

00:53:02.000 That's what's socially just.

00:53:03.000 And so the only conversations that can happen are racism is bad or something in that context.

00:53:09.000 So what happens then is when you create a Twitter or a Facebook and it creates the massive room where everyone can share their rage and enrage other people, we end up with industry, commercials, movies, media, government, and everything.

00:53:24.000 So, you know, our culture has become built upon this low morale, demoralized, angry, Angry about what? You know, you were saying earlier, like,

00:53:34.000 um, what right do we have to say, like, I want you to change, like to impose your will on

00:53:39.000 some other person. I think the you twerking for kids is bad. Yeah. And I think we do have the right to

00:53:44.000 say that. And of course now that's on social media. And, but sometimes you don't have the right

00:53:51.000 to say, like, I think you should commit this crime because that's could be considered, I don't know,

00:53:56.000 seditious or something like that.

00:53:58.000 But this whole, like, I think you should fill in the blank has taken on this runaway breakdown in social media.

00:54:05.000 And now people are imposing, like, I think you should call me a man.

00:54:08.000 To your point about runaway breakdown.

00:54:13.000 Yeah.

00:54:13.000 Of course.

00:54:13.000 thing I was saying about the bias. Donald Trump can say, we're going to peacefully march

00:54:18.000 to the Capitol to cheer on politicians. Insurrection. Maxine Waters says, if we don't get what we

00:54:24.000 want, we do more. We get more confrontational. And they're like, that's fine. I'm sorry,

00:54:29.000 what did the Republicans offer to do? Censure Maxine Waters? 0.99

00:54:32.000 Of course, pathetic. 1.00

00:54:33.000 We will wag our finger at her. 0.99

00:54:34.000 They impeached Trump over it, literally impeached him, and then tried to convict him for saying, peacefully cheer on politicians. 0.92

00:54:41.000 Of course, it's absolutely pathetic, because your observation here, and actually what we're seeing in Hollywood is... 0.57

00:54:48.000 Every culture, just by definition, is going to idolize some things and castigate some things. 0.87

00:54:53.000 And we're going to think some things are good and some things are bad and some are right and some are wrong.

00:54:56.000 And that's just the way it works.

00:54:58.000 And if conservatives are unwilling to offer a substantive vision of that, then we're just going to get rolled over.

00:55:03.000 You know, on this point here of this kind of nastiness in the movies, you know, it's Hollywood, social media, it's all so nasty.

00:55:10.000 I wonder if, too, beyond just the political vision of this, It has something to do with how exhausted and decadent we are as a society.

00:55:20.000 What I mean by that is, I went to Cuba a few years ago.

00:55:24.000 They had direct flights from LA for a little, very briefly.

00:55:26.000 Thanks, Obama.

00:55:27.000 And I go down to buy some cigars.

00:55:29.000 I go to Cuba, and I see a variety show.

00:55:32.000 And this thing, man, I don't know, I felt bad for everybody in that slave island. 0.99

00:55:35.000 It's a terrible place.

00:55:36.000 At the time, it looked like they were going to open up.

00:55:38.000 Who knows?

00:55:38.000 It doesn't look like great reforms.

00:55:40.000 I see a real Ricky Ricardo show.

00:55:42.000 I mean, I'm talking Cuban Pete. 0.99

00:55:43.000 He's the king of the right.

00:55:44.000 It's all very big, very energetic, very enthusiastic.

00:55:49.000 And I thought, oh my gosh, we haven't had that kind of entertainment in the United States for 50 years at least.

00:55:55.000 What is our entertainment now?

00:55:56.000 It's apathetic.

00:55:58.000 It's all ironic.

00:55:59.000 It's all just sort of dressed down and like I'm not even going to, you know.

00:56:02.000 Millennials and Zoomers, too. 0.98

00:56:05.000 They kind of like talking vocal fry. 0.86

00:56:07.000 They won't even put breath behind their voice because we're just so damn tuckered out.

00:56:13.000 We're so exhausted.

00:56:14.000 I mean, there's very popular memes about harming yourself on Reddit.

00:56:20.000 And the funny thing is it's created a derivative set of memes where these Gen Zers who make jokes about dying Don't know that older generations don't know it's a joke.

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 Seriously.

00:56:32.000 Yeah.

00:56:32.000 But so I wanted to bring up this thing about Hollywood because I think this is from the Daily Wire.

00:56:37.000 I think it shows.

00:56:39.000 Yeah.

00:56:39.000 Whatever that is.

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:40.000 Website or whatever.

00:56:41.000 Shout out.

00:56:41.000 Apparently there's a bunch of links on Facebook.

00:56:43.000 Daily Wire.

00:56:44.000 Yeah.

00:56:45.000 So no, no, no.

00:56:45.000 But I think most people are not into this.

00:56:47.000 The problem is.

00:56:49.000 Social media has created, uh, it's, it's the foreground and people don't realize that it looks really big because it's right in front of our faces, but it's actually really small.

00:56:59.000 So let me, let me, let me pull some of this up.

00:57:00.000 This is a daily wire poll.

00:57:01.000 Most Americans oppose Oscars diversity requirements.

00:57:04.000 They say.

00:57:06.000 The majority of Americans don't believe diversity requirements should be a significant factor in whether or not a film is nominated for an Oscar at the Academy Awards according to the findings of a new SurveyMonkey poll commissioned by the Daily Wire.

00:57:19.000 They say 63% of respondents agreed that films should solely be judged on their artistic merits, while only 24% of respondents say diversity should be a significant factor.

00:57:29.000 In a film's nomination, the other respondents indicated they were unsure.

00:57:34.000 Nearly half of non-white respondents, 48%, said artistic merit should be the sole consideration, while 38% said diversity should be factored in the nomination decision.

00:57:44.000 To me, I am not surprised.

00:57:46.000 The ratings are in the gutter.

00:57:47.000 It's not just the ratings for Hollywood.

00:57:49.000 CNN news outlets' ratings are in the gutter.

00:57:51.000 Fox News, apparently the only outlet that's actually maintained their ratings post-Trump.

00:57:55.000 Though they did take a big hit, you know, during Trump.

00:57:59.000 They had some pushback during the election.

00:58:00.000 Right, right, right.

00:58:02.000 I look at these TV shows and you see the ratings are down.

00:58:05.000 You look at the Grammys, you look at the Oscars.

00:58:07.000 Nobody wants to watch this stuff.

00:58:09.000 You look at some of these movies that have come out and wow, have they not made money.

00:58:14.000 Birds of Prey, did you see that movie?

00:58:16.000 No.

00:58:17.000 You're lucky.

00:58:19.000 That's not for the flight back, I should not... You do not want to watch that movie.

00:58:23.000 No.

00:58:23.000 It is... You know, the issue I take with it is that it's all based off of this... It's like indignation, like I'm... It's this anger.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 It's not a positive question.

00:58:38.000 So I think back to like, you know, old content, old shows back in the day that I thought were progressive in a sense or talk to civil rights for things for kids that were done right.

00:58:47.000 I always reference Static Shock, the cartoon.

00:58:49.000 I don't know if you're familiar with it.

00:58:50.000 No, no.

00:58:50.000 I mean, it was a kid's show and you have this character, Virgil Hawkins.

00:58:55.000 He's a young black teenager.

00:58:57.000 He gains superpowers. 0.90

00:58:58.000 The stories they go through are about, you know, his best friend is gay. 0.94

00:59:01.000 Should he join a gang?

00:59:03.000 And it was done in a very inquisitive way that explained a point.

00:59:06.000 Today's version of politics in shows like Wokeness and Diversity Requirements are bashing you over the head with anger about how you're evil and wrong and we're mad at you.

00:59:16.000 It's very, very different from just telling someone what would be right, you know what I mean?

00:59:20.000 Well, I think part of it is because, getting back to your might makes right argument earlier, One would hope that in a civilized society we can all just persuade one another through arguments that hey my view of this social question is right and so here's my argument but because the left is now basically abandoned that and and I don't just mean they don't make good arguments and their arguments are no good I mean

00:59:42.000 as a product of their radical ideologies over the years, they have come to deny the reality

00:59:47.000 of objective of the objective world, right? They'll actually say things like objective truth,

00:59:52.000 that's actually a white supremacist dog whistle, things like that. So that if they're going to

00:59:56.000 deny that, then argument falls apart.

00:59:59.000 And so it has to be angry or at least threatening in the sense that if they want to get you to go along with their program, they've just got to make you do it.

01:00:08.000 They're not going to persuade you.

01:00:09.000 It won't be gentle.

01:00:10.000 At what point do you legislate?

01:00:11.000 I was thinking of this earlier.

01:00:12.000 You were saying like, do you have the right to tell someone, I think you should do this?

01:00:16.000 And yes, I believe you do.

01:00:17.000 When it's not a certain type of like sedition or whatever.

01:00:21.000 But at what point are you should you be able to legislate?

01:00:24.000 I think you should do this.

01:00:25.000 And that's basically kind of what our government does.

01:00:27.000 And now it's what our social media is doing, because it's the new it's one of the new forms of government.

01:00:31.000 That is the government.

01:00:31.000 Yeah.

01:00:32.000 Right.

01:00:32.000 How are they legislating by like public opinion, by like fear mongering, like this juror was afraid that they were going to.

01:00:39.000 Well, so it's the anger, it's the negativity, it's the rage instead of the compassion.

01:00:44.000 So a good example, I'm trying to think of like, what's a really good example of how they do wokeness wrong? 1.00

01:00:48.000 And how about Ghostbusters 2016?

01:00:49.000 Have you seen that one?

01:00:51.000 Nobody saw that one.

01:00:53.000 I don't think I'm alone here.

01:00:55.000 Awful!

01:00:56.000 Why?

01:00:57.000 Because they think that the idea of diversity in movies is being mean and nasty and insulting.

01:01:05.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 So they're mad that we do Captain America, we do Thor and Iron Man, and it's all white males.

01:01:11.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 I don't care that it's white males.

01:01:12.000 I have no problem with, you know, Shang-Chi, it's the new Marvel movie coming out.

01:01:16.000 It's an Asian lead with Asian characters.

01:01:17.000 I'm like, cool. 0.92

01:01:19.000 When they see those three movies where it's all white men, their reaction is to make a movie where they insult and berate and belittle white men. 0.63

01:01:29.000 That's not social justice. 0.99

01:01:30.000 That's just the same thing, but it's just being mean to people.

01:01:33.000 I think about a movie like Wonder Woman, the first one, or say like Edge of Tomorrow, where

01:01:38.000 they actually just have strong female characters to represent female characters, and they don't 0.99

01:01:44.000 insult you and bash you over the head and tell you you're a moron or you're toxic or 1.00

01:01:47.000 you're stupid. 1.00

01:01:49.000 To me, that's the main issue here. 1.00

01:01:51.000 But will you, I mean, it's a good rule of thumb I've found is that when you're trying

01:01:55.000 to understand something the radical left is doing, just invert reality.

01:01:59.000 Invert the traditional order.

01:02:01.000 So, traditionally, humility is the beginning of wisdom, right?

01:02:06.000 Very important virtue.

01:02:07.000 What does the left celebrate?

01:02:08.000 Pride. 1.00

01:02:09.000 Not just gay pride, it's like fat pride, skinny pride, slut pride, right? 0.99

01:02:14.000 All these various marches to embrace pride, which a friend of mine once said it used to be... Interesting. 0.99

01:02:19.000 I think it was Thomas Aquinas called it the queen of all vices, and now my friend referred to it as the vice of all queens, which I think that's very... that's not nice.

01:02:27.000 That's not a nice thing to say.

01:02:28.000 It's very politically incorrect.

01:02:29.000 But it's because it's actually, it's way beyond the gay question.

01:02:32.000 If you look at the essence of Christianity, what is it?

01:02:35.000 That in this fallen world you have the incarnation of perfect good.

01:02:40.000 The actual God himself, the second person of the Trinity, incarnated into the world to redeem mankind.

01:02:45.000 What do you have on the left?

01:02:46.000 You have the exact inversion of that.

01:02:47.000 You have no shot at redemption.

01:02:50.000 No shot at the incarnation of the good.

01:02:51.000 But you do have the incarnation of evil in the character of The straight, white man who knows that he's a man who, right?

01:02:59.000 It keeps getting narrower and narrower.

01:03:02.000 We talked about this before the show a little bit, moral frameworks. 0.93

01:03:04.000 And something I've definitely mentioned on the show, that there are a lot of liberals in this country who are like, if you need religion to be moral, then like, I'm scared of, you know, what you really think it's like, what you would do without religion, you must be crazy.

01:03:19.000 And the example of Bill Maher, who would say something like, I don't need religion to have morals.

01:03:24.000 And they don't realize that their morals are built upon the Judeo-Christian framework.

01:03:27.000 Right.

01:03:28.000 Well, of course.

01:03:29.000 I mean, it's always so sophomoric.

01:03:31.000 When that fad happened in the mid-2000s, you know, the new atheists, I always felt the old atheists were a lot more impressive. 0.99

01:03:39.000 I mean, I tried reading some of their books.

01:03:41.000 They were sophomoric.

01:03:42.000 I mean, they were so shallow that they weren't even making the arguments they thought that they were making.

01:03:47.000 And someone like Bill Maher, yes, where does Bill Maher get his morality from?

01:03:50.000 His civilization, which is built on Christianity. 0.71

01:03:53.000 You can use the phrase Judeo-Christian, whatever you want.

01:03:55.000 He was raised, I guess, in a Jewish household.

01:03:57.000 Who knows?

01:03:57.000 Literally like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.

01:04:01.000 Individuals who are fairly religious individuals, to say the least.

01:04:05.000 It's built on Judeo-Christianism and a little bit of moral, or I guess you call it authoritarian militantism.

01:04:11.000 What do you mean?

01:04:12.000 Well, we just massacred the Native Americans to form our country in pride. 1.00

01:04:15.000 We're talking about humility and pride.

01:04:17.000 I don't think that's fair.

01:04:18.000 I don't think that's fair to the settlers.

01:04:20.000 Hold on.

01:04:24.000 We're talking about there are certain things that in the Bible and the Torah.

01:04:30.000 Humility.

01:04:31.000 America's not a humble place.

01:04:34.000 That's a good place.

01:04:34.000 It's the place that makes Donald Trump.

01:04:36.000 They talk about pride.

01:04:37.000 Trump represents like turning American culture up to 11.

01:04:40.000 It's like the epitome of pride.

01:04:42.000 He's prideful.

01:04:44.000 It comes from, I think, a decay of that moral framework.

01:04:49.000 Well, where does pride?

01:04:50.000 What is the American thing with pride?

01:04:52.000 Because humility is a virtue and pride is a sin.

01:04:55.000 You know, I actually I think America is a humble country.

01:04:57.000 And I actually think even Trump is politically one of the most humble politicians we've ever heard.

01:05:01.000 Not because he doesn't have an ego.

01:05:03.000 He slaps his name on every building he ever saw.

01:05:05.000 But it's because he understands that there are limits to politics and there's limits to what he can do.

01:05:10.000 I mean, when he comes in, he says, look, You know, I'm a flawed guy, but I fix things.

01:05:14.000 We're going to make it a little bit better.

01:05:16.000 Conservatives traditionally have this idea.

01:05:17.000 You can't remake the world into this utopia.

01:05:20.000 To me, that's a very, very humble position.

01:05:23.000 I think we can rag on Trump for his character and persona as a representation of some of the worst things, like turning American culture up to the 11 and just really blasting the saturation he turns orange.

01:05:32.000 You know, the casinos and the supermarkets.

01:05:33.000 Right, right, right.

01:05:34.000 But politically, Trump wouldn't send the military or the feds into these riots.

01:05:41.000 There were so many things Trump should have done he wouldn't do.

01:05:43.000 He wouldn't fire people.

01:05:44.000 He wouldn't force his way.

01:05:46.000 And they kept screaming he was a fascist when he literally wouldn't do these things.

01:05:49.000 In fact, Donald Trump shut down the child detention centers and Joe Biden reopened them.

01:05:56.000 Trump, I would not say could be described as humble.

01:06:00.000 Not at all.

01:06:01.000 He strikes me as prideful as all get out.

01:06:03.000 His name on buildings.

01:06:04.000 He's all like, I'm the best.

01:06:05.000 That's pride.

01:06:06.000 And when it comes to politics, And the actions he took as a president, absolutely he was more humble than, say, Joe Biden was.

01:06:14.000 Joe Biden can rhetorically be humble.

01:06:16.000 That's a fact.

01:06:17.000 Donald Trump was the opposite of humble when it comes to how he speaks.

01:06:19.000 I don't think either of those guys.

01:06:20.000 To be a cult leader, you gotta be— Donald Trump shuts down the facilities.

01:06:22.000 You know why?

01:06:23.000 Donald Trump shut down the child facilities because the left was yelling at him.

01:06:26.000 Donald Trump banned bump stocks because the left was yelling at him.

01:06:29.000 Joe Biden tells the right to screw themselves.

01:06:31.000 Like Obama, similarly.

01:06:32.000 Let me develop this a little, because I think pride is an American— Virtue, in a lot of ways.

01:06:37.000 It's a Catholic sin, but in the United States, it's like, proud to be an American. 0.88

01:06:41.000 And they teach you that as a kid.

01:06:42.000 They taught me that as a kid, that yes, you want to be prideful of your things, and it's good.

01:06:47.000 And in a lot of ways, it does help you succeed in a capitalist society.

01:06:52.000 But do you think, when I say, I mean it just seems to me we're using this word pride in different ways, like when I say I'm proud to be an American, aren't we just talking about love of country, patriotism, sort of an extension of filial piety, like I agree there's a degree of national pride that's a really bad thing when you say like, Every other country is awful and we're just going to take them all over and everything.

01:07:12.000 But in a way, America, I think, doesn't do that.

01:07:15.000 We bomb the Middle East a lot. 1.00

01:07:16.000 But I don't know that we do that.

01:07:18.000 We kind of open our country up.

01:07:19.000 We say, hey, man, come on in.

01:07:21.000 We want all the best from everywhere.

01:07:23.000 We let in more immigrants than any other country, don't we?

01:07:25.000 I mean, the movement of immigrants into this country over the last 60 years is the largest movement of people ever.

01:07:32.000 on earth in the history of the world.

01:07:34.000 People love this country.

01:07:36.000 And we let a lot of people in.

01:07:38.000 So much so that now it's become very difficult, if not impossible, to assimilate all of it.

01:07:44.000 We're talking about millions of people every single year.

01:07:46.000 And if you even raise the prospect of, hey, maybe we should cool it a little bit until we assimilate 0.98

01:07:52.000 everybody, most people will look at you like you're crazy.

01:07:55.000 Do you think the Catholic Church just told people pride is bad because they wanted to keep control of people?

01:08:00.000 No, well, pride made Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

01:08:03.000 I mean, pride is the sin in the Garden of Eden.

01:08:06.000 Actually, Whitaker Chambers, ex-communist who wrote this great book Witness, which actually helped bring Ronald Reagan from the left to the right, He said that communism is not a new ideology.

01:08:17.000 Communism is the second oldest faith of mankind.

01:08:19.000 It's the great alternative faith that began in the garden when the serpent told Adam and Eve, ye shall be as gods.

01:08:26.000 And that presumption to be as a god, that is the Bible story.

01:08:31.000 That is what causes the fall.

01:08:32.000 So, you know, I think it's in the heart of man.

01:08:34.000 I don't think it's uniquely American, but we've all got it.

01:08:37.000 There's no doubt about that.

01:08:38.000 We've stumbled onto this talk about America and we were talking about Hollywood.

01:08:41.000 So I'm going to make this segment happen because I'm so excited for this.

01:08:44.000 The first thing I want to say is this.

01:08:46.000 If I could offer you up, all of you guys listening, a TV show where a guy takes an American flag and brutally beats Antifa.

01:08:55.000 And, you know, he rejects a bunch of woke ideas.

01:08:57.000 He's repeatedly told by, you know, people about how, uh, you know, You know, you shouldn't wave that flag.

01:09:05.000 It's the white man's flag, and that you gotta understand.

01:09:08.000 And so you have this black man who says, nah, I like the flag, and he picks it up, and then there are these people who are like, we should have open borders, and we're gonna smash the flag, and then he just beats them with it. 0.57

01:09:17.000 Would that be a show conservatives would want to watch?

01:09:19.000 It sounds great.

01:09:20.000 Where do I sign up?

01:09:21.000 Where do I get it?

01:09:22.000 It's the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

01:09:24.000 So first, let me show this story from when we got this covered that we talked about, I think, a couple weeks ago.

01:09:29.000 New rumor says over 80% of Falcon and Winter Soldier viewers turned off episode two at the same point.

01:09:34.000 Now I'm talking about this, you know, we're talking about Hollywood wokeness, the commercialization of this anger.

01:09:38.000 And I got to talk about this show.

01:09:41.000 And I think pride fits in because I'm wondering why it is I see a lot of people saying this show is woke.

01:09:44.000 Don't watch it.

01:09:45.000 It's awful. 0.52

01:09:45.000 It's racist. 0.52

01:09:46.000 People don't want to watch it.

01:09:48.000 And I wonder if there's an element of pride in assuming Hollywood does this.

01:09:53.000 So not, maybe not giving it a chance and maybe being a little more open-minded.

01:09:58.000 So we have this, this, this, uh, segment from, uh, marvel.com or this, this article.

01:10:03.000 Cast and creatives behind The Falcon and Winter Soldier discuss patrionism, supremacy, Captain America's mantle.

01:10:10.000 And you have this quote from Anthony Mackie, who plays, excuse me, he plays the Falcon.

01:10:17.000 He says, for Sam, it's a constant battle of how do you fight for a country that's never fought for you, remarks Anthony Mackie, explaining in many ways, the one thing that held up the moniker of that shield was the idea of who Steve Rogers was, which is Captain America.

01:10:29.000 That comment to me was really interesting because it does, I think, in many ways show that Marvel, they're woke and they don't get it.

01:10:35.000 For Anthony Mackie to say that, a country never fought for you, I mean, I think one of the bloodiest battles in the history of the world was the Civil War, quite literally, to end slavery.

01:10:43.000 Among other, you know, peripheral factors, but that was a key component.

01:10:47.000 But here's what I gotta say about this show, and what Hollywood is doing, and what we need to be careful of.

01:10:51.000 I'm seeing a lot of people tell me I'm wrong because I said the show's not woke.

01:10:54.000 I'm like, it's not woke.

01:10:55.000 Give it a chance.

01:10:55.000 It's actually, it's fairly centrist.

01:10:58.000 It addresses issues of race, but quite literally, I'm gonna spoil the show for those who haven't seen the finale, because the finale came out and I was so excited watching a dude reject wokeness, pick up the American flag, and beat Antifa with it.

01:11:14.000 I mean that, like, I don't literally like Antifa getting beaten, but the bad guys are called Flag Smashers.

01:11:19.000 They want open borders. 1.00

01:11:21.000 They're terrorists who kill people. 0.97

01:11:23.000 They think might makes right. 0.99

01:11:25.000 And because they have super strength, they're allowed to kill whoever they want.

01:11:29.000 She literally says to... There's a soldier with PTSD.

01:11:32.000 He watched his best friend, who's a black man, get killed.

01:11:35.000 And she says, his life doesn't matter.

01:11:36.000 And I was like, that's an amazing indictment of these fake woke Antifa who would use someone for political points if they could get ahead and then literally tell you to your face they don't matter.

01:11:46.000 Anthony Mackie plays a black man who questions whether or not he should wear the American flag, ultimately decides to do it, and they even show a scene where there's another black man who says, no self-respecting black man would wear that shield.

01:11:59.000 And Anthony Mackie says, I know there's people who'll be mad at me for wearing this, but, you know, he wants to fight for this country and he'll be damned if someone tells him he can't do it.

01:12:07.000 And then he's literally wearing the American flag, chasing down open borders extremists.

01:12:12.000 I'm like, I'm sorry.

01:12:13.000 I mean, there's definitely a message about racism being bad.

01:12:16.000 But it sounds like a more classically liberal or even a conservative statement about why racism is bad.

01:12:22.000 Well, it's obviously conservative in the sense that America is good and the flag smashers are bad. 0.99

01:12:27.000 I mean, just in the most basic sense, that is a conservative message.

01:12:31.000 You're going to make me... I was at one and a half Marvel products is what I... You're going to make me go to two and a half now.

01:12:37.000 I certainly think there's elements that people could call woke, but I wonder if what a lot of people... I did say, I tweeted, it was getting too woke.

01:12:44.000 And it was after this point where a car pulls up, a squad car pulls up, and you got, you know, Anthony Mackie, and you got Falcon and Bucky Barnes, a white guy and a black guy, and it was this very stereotypically, like, racist moment where the cops were like, sir, are you alright?

01:12:56.000 To the white dude.

01:12:57.000 A lot of people got mad about that.

01:12:58.000 Yeah.

01:12:59.000 But I'm like, I'm gonna watch it because I don't want to fall into this trap where I'm like, that's what I woke I won't watch it.

01:13:05.000 Yeah, and then I was amazingly surprised there was a point where apparently You know, Sam Wilson, the Falcon, black man, is, you know, Bucky Barnes apologizes, saying, I didn't realize what it meant for a black man to wear, you know, that shield and be Captain America.

01:13:21.000 But he's like, he doesn't want to do that.

01:13:24.000 He has a little kid tell him, he's walking on the street, a little kid goes, it's Black Falcon.

01:13:28.000 And he goes, nah, I'm just Falcon.

01:13:30.000 And the kid goes, no, my dad says you're a black falcon.

01:13:32.000 He goes, I'm just the falcon.

01:13:33.000 And I'm like, you are just the falcon.

01:13:35.000 Like your race is not relevant to you being a superhero who's awesome. 0.94

01:13:39.000 And when he decided to defy people in this black community who said, you think you can come in here because you have that white man's shield.

01:13:45.000 And he's like, but I liked that guy.

01:13:47.000 He was cool as my friend.

01:13:48.000 He's like, Steve Rogers didn't do this to you.

01:13:49.000 And then he decides to wear the American flag representing the country.

01:13:54.000 For every reason he felt like he was wrong by this country or didn't fight for him, for everyone telling him that America was bad and doesn't represent him and hates him, he still believed in this country.

01:14:04.000 And I'm like, it's like hardcore nationalist.

01:14:07.000 It's like almost Trumpian in a way.

01:14:09.000 I'm actually, I'm wondering if it's Chinese propaganda in that they have now incited Antifa to go riot and burn things down for a couple of years. 0.92

01:14:16.000 Now they're going to start making art about why we should fight them.

01:14:19.000 Yeah.

01:14:20.000 It's the 4D chess of the Chinese communists. 0.83

01:14:23.000 I did think about this and I wonder to what extent there's a conspiracy in media now that the election's over.

01:14:30.000 They need to stop Antifa and start putting out messages about loving the country and getting things back on track.

01:14:37.000 You know, we were promised the riots would stop once Joe Biden came in and they ain't stopping.

01:14:41.000 They're getting worse.

01:14:42.000 Yeah.

01:14:42.000 Well, that is the problem.

01:14:43.000 When you when you unleash violence, you don't get to control it.

01:14:48.000 You know, actually, things this is when you begin a war, you know, things quickly spiral out of out of control.

01:14:54.000 And that that's clearly what's going on here.

01:14:56.000 But I am I'm actually glad you told me this about Marvel, because conservatives do this a lot where they they'll see a little because because we're so abused.

01:15:05.000 Because this whole culture abuses and abuses, just smacks us all the time.

01:15:09.000 The minute we see something, we say, OK, that's all.

01:15:11.000 I'm done.

01:15:12.000 I'm done.

01:15:12.000 I can't take it anymore.

01:15:13.000 And there was that movie that came out.

01:15:15.000 I don't even remember the name of it.

01:15:16.000 It was supposed to come out a few years ago.

01:15:17.000 And it was about how these white, rich liberals Yeah, I don't even know if it was all white people.

01:15:23.000 It was the hunt, right?

01:15:24.000 It was really good.

01:15:24.000 It seemed great.

01:15:25.000 I mean, the whole thing was these rich coastal libs were hunting down good regular Americans.

01:15:31.000 And, you know, I thought this is the most conservative movie ever made.

01:15:34.000 I only saw the trailer.

01:15:36.000 And then there was a backlash from...

01:15:38.000 Not from libs, it was from conservatives who said, how dare you hunt me down?

01:15:42.000 You think, like, do you get the point of the movie?

01:15:45.000 Yeah.

01:15:45.000 Even Trump came out?

01:15:46.000 Trump, to be honest, even I came out.

01:15:48.000 And my point was, I think we're in too divisive of a time to be making a video where liberals are kidnapping and hunting down conservatives.

01:15:54.000 They might think it's like a nice movie.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, right.

01:15:58.000 So I was like, I don't want to see that thing.

01:16:00.000 And then I did.

01:16:02.000 And it was, as I would say, it's actually not partisan.

01:16:06.000 Good.

01:16:07.000 There was like, it made fun of everybody.

01:16:09.000 And I'll say this about Falcon and Winter Soldier.

01:16:13.000 Maybe it's conservative, like you should watch it and tell me what you think.

01:16:17.000 But I think it's actually fairly centrist.

01:16:19.000 I think it's fairly, it's not trying to, in many ways it opposes wokeness, but it does address the animosity and the feelings of racism in an interesting way. 0.97

01:16:28.000 So I think there's a lot of people who, I'll put it this way, to me, Wokeness represents insulting, denigrating, beating someone over the head, telling them they're stupid or evil or wrong or privileged.

01:16:41.000 Whereas actual social justice, as I understood it, would be like someone calmly and explaining to you with respect how they feel when it comes to racism. 0.95

01:16:50.000 Wow.

01:16:51.000 So when you go woke, it's really, you're going, you're getting angry. 1.00

01:16:55.000 But you're, it's almost like, if I was going to insult you and say, you're stupid, this person, that person, your identity, that to me is like what we see with wokeness. 1.00

01:17:05.000 It's this idea that white people have some kind of inherent badness to them or something, that whiteness represents more, it's the most insane thing. 1.00

01:17:14.000 So you could take on social justice and be like, I think you shouldn't be twerking for kids. 1.00

01:17:17.000 But if you start going, you're an idiot for twerking for kids, then you're becoming woke. 0.98

01:17:22.000 It's it's well, there's there's a couple couple things one I think a lot of wokeness is a quest for power not a quest for compassion certainly So you're wrong bend your knee or else I'll take your job away. 0.99

01:17:35.000 Yeah, whereas what I see in the Falcon winter soldier is you know, there's one guy who one of the characters is Seems to me to represent wokeness Animosity towards white people and the American flag and the main character rejects that and says now I like this flag I'm gonna fight for this country

01:17:52.000 Well, you know, it's all negative.

01:17:54.000 Everything you've just described is purely negative, right?

01:17:57.000 Wokeness is this purely negative campaign.

01:17:59.000 And that's just the new term for political correctness.

01:18:01.000 There's all sorts of terms.

01:18:03.000 Part of what the left does is just change the terms all the time, so that's the new one.

01:18:07.000 But it gets back to something that Karl Marx said, which is getting back to quoting Karl Marx every so often.

01:18:14.000 Karl Marx, in a letter in, oh gosh, I forget the year, he called for the ruthless criticism of all that exists.

01:18:24.000 And this was taken up later by radical Marxist theorists and a practical politician, Antonio Gramsci, in his construction of what you'd call cultural hegemony, Western Marxism.

01:18:35.000 This is taken up in the Frankfurt School and critical theory, which is now we see the derivation of critical race theory.

01:18:40.000 It's dominated the universities.

01:18:42.000 That is the woke indoctrination comes from critical theory and Once you get past all the pretentious jargon in these crazy theory, what is the theory?

01:18:50.000 It's very simple.

01:18:51.000 The theory is to criticize It's the same thing Marx called for it's just because guess what?

01:18:56.000 I I've noticed this about bigots, you know, my friend Andrew Klavan points this out a lot and Bigots are not always wrong about the other guy.

01:19:05.000 They're just wrong about themselves You know, they're really good at criticizing everybody else, but they don't see their own flaws.

01:19:12.000 Everything is susceptible to criticism So it's a very very easy sort of new pseudo academic discipline and there's no end to it.

01:19:19.000 It's just rubble.

01:19:20.000 There's gonna be these I think, you know, one of the ways to look at it is I had a conversation with a bunch of Trump supporters over dinner when I was in, I think it was in California.

01:19:29.000 This was during, like, the Trump campaign era.

01:19:32.000 I think it was maybe just after he got elected.

01:19:35.000 And I was talking about historical racism.

01:19:39.000 And immediately the reaction was like laughter and like, you know, oh yeah, yeah.

01:19:43.000 And I was like, I was like, legit.

01:19:45.000 No, like, I mean it sincerely.

01:19:46.000 I mean it seriously.

01:19:46.000 You're not joking.

01:19:48.000 And then I explained to them like redlining and blockbusting where we actually have legit racist policies in this country that have a negative impact on communities of color into the modern era.

01:19:58.000 But institutionally, we've actually made that all illegal.

01:20:01.000 However, the remnants still exist.

01:20:02.000 And so the way I see it is when I treat people with respect, And say, just hear me out on this, because I want to understand you.

01:20:09.000 You get respect back.

01:20:11.000 That I think is totally fine.

01:20:13.000 I actually have no problem with seeing that in a TV show. 1.00

01:20:15.000 The issue is when, instead of saying, like, Michael, let me explain to you something about my experience, they say, you're a stupid white man! 1.00

01:20:22.000 Nazi! 1.00

01:20:23.000 F you, you fascist! 1.00

01:20:24.000 And, like, when movies are predicated upon berating and insulting you, that's get well, go broke. 0.99

01:20:30.000 Well, you know, the late philosopher Roger Scruton pointed this out.

01:20:33.000 He said, civilization thrives on Forgiveness, confession first, and then forgiveness.

01:20:40.000 And when I confess that I've done something wrong, even if it's confessing historical wrongs at the national level, whatever, I sacrifice my pride, and when you forgive me, you sacrifice your resentment.

01:20:52.000 And we have both sacrificed something that we cherish, that really means a lot to us.

01:20:57.000 And that's the only way you can move forward.

01:20:58.000 But if you're not going to get that, if you're going to have a whole culture permeated by resentment, where you get it in school, you get it sometimes as a matter of law, and you get it even when you want to relax and go to the movies, and that's all you get.

01:21:12.000 It's pride.

01:21:13.000 Right.

01:21:14.000 It's really interesting because I've had so many experiences where I, I've always been very confident in myself.

01:21:21.000 I don't need to justify or validate myself to others.

01:21:25.000 And so I just, you know, I don't, I don't, but there's a lot of people who are proud.

01:21:28.000 They need others to know how good they are, how big they are, and it gets them in trouble.

01:21:33.000 Well, you know, true humility does away with false modesty.

01:21:36.000 There are some there's some people who can't take a compliment.

01:21:38.000 That's just another form of pride.

01:21:39.000 Right.

01:21:39.000 It's just a kind of that's just the flip side of it.

01:21:41.000 But but true humility, you can say, yeah, OK, I did this right.

01:21:44.000 This was all right.

01:21:44.000 You know, hey, thanks, man.

01:21:45.000 It's cool.

01:21:46.000 Moving on, focusing on other things, trying to move forward.

01:21:49.000 In 2006, I decided to use YouTube videos as a form of confession.

01:21:53.000 And I started making videos about my past and my history and the mistakes and the lies I've told.

01:21:58.000 And it allowed me to clear my mind.

01:22:00.000 I was able to start thinking full, complete sentences.

01:22:03.000 And I can have a silent mind now?

01:22:06.000 You're a braver man than I am.

01:22:08.000 When I want to confess, I go into a little black box with a scrim where I change my voice and stuff.

01:22:13.000 That's very brave.

01:22:14.000 I have ridiculed so hard for so many years.

01:22:17.000 To this day, I still get comments on those videos.

01:22:19.000 They're all up online.

01:22:20.000 Why'd you do it, if you don't mind my asking?

01:22:23.000 Social experiment.

01:22:23.000 I thought someone could.

01:22:24.000 What would Jesus do with this technology?

01:22:26.000 Yeah.

01:22:26.000 He'd prostrate himself to the humanity and beg them to come together.

01:22:31.000 So I tried that.

01:22:33.000 Pride goeth before the fall.

01:22:35.000 Yes.

01:22:36.000 I was like, I remember that.

01:22:37.000 I got to look that up.

01:22:38.000 I think about that, especially in the context of news.

01:22:41.000 All of these journalists are so desperate for validation.

01:22:44.000 Their pride consumes them.

01:22:45.000 They won't admit when they're wrong.

01:22:46.000 They refuse to be wrong and they'd rather win above all else.

01:22:49.000 We need humility desperately.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, but the problem is, because I agree, oh, if only we could do that and everyone would just confess and it'd be cool, right?

01:22:59.000 But the problem is right now with cancel culture, which is a real phenomenon. 0.99

01:23:04.000 It's a very specific phenomenon.

01:23:06.000 It's a leftist phenomenon.

01:23:08.000 When the left says, well, you know, in the 50s, conservatives canceled communists.

01:23:11.000 Yep, we did.

01:23:11.000 That was awesome.

01:23:12.000 That's great.

01:23:13.000 Every society has boundaries.

01:23:14.000 But what's going on right now is that if you go wave the flag, the American flag, Or you don't go along with some woke fashion to castrate kids or something, then you lose your job.

01:23:24.000 That is cancel culture.

01:23:25.000 And if you in any way admit that you're wrong... Let's say you actually legitimately do something wrong.

01:23:33.000 I, on occasion, have done that.

01:23:34.000 And I wish that I could apologize for that.

01:23:37.000 You can't. 0.99

01:23:38.000 Because the minute that you apologize, you're dead.

01:23:41.000 They will never forgive you.

01:23:43.000 You saw it with the guy who hosted The Bachelor.

01:23:45.000 You saw it with a number of other journalists sometimes.

01:23:48.000 You're dead.

01:23:49.000 So what do you have to do?

01:23:51.000 You simply cannot enact that humility.

01:23:55.000 Yep.

01:23:55.000 It's an admission of guilt.

01:23:56.000 It's an admission of guilt.

01:23:57.000 And there's no redemption.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, I was in Hollywood as an actor, and after I started doing that, no one would cast me.

01:24:04.000 They thought I was dangerous, which I was, because I would have called them out and destroyed that disgusting secretive community I would have.

01:24:13.000 And they knew that.

01:24:17.000 People do forgive, but if you have a job that you can lose, you'll probably lose it if you go that route and you try to be humble.

01:24:26.000 If you work for yourself, you're in a much better position.

01:24:29.000 And YouTube ads, you know, you can kind of work for yourself there.

01:24:32.000 I don't know, I'm getting off on a tangent.

01:24:34.000 Well, you can build a business, but I find it fascinating that the left, I think, is consumed by pride.

01:24:42.000 I think that's a big factor, and I think when you are, you can't admit when you're wrong.

01:24:47.000 And if you can't admit when you're wrong, you can't improve yourself. 1.00

01:24:49.000 Will you ever notice this about stupid people? 1.00

01:24:51.000 Is stupid people Think that they're really really smart and then smart people the first thing you notice about smart people Is that they're very aware of how stupid they are and it's not false modesty They're actually aware of it because maybe I don't know Maybe the smart person met a smarter person one time and just kind of put it all into perspective It is a it is a fail proof the rule of thumb the the loudest voices in the room who are true 1.00

01:25:15.000 There you are. 1.00

01:25:16.000 I will never admit that they're wrong. 1.00

01:25:18.000 You've got to listen to people to discern that for yourself because if a smart person says something that a stupid person doesn't understand, the stupid person will tell the smart person they're not making any sense and that they're the stupid. 1.00

01:25:28.000 So this is Bukowski. 1.00

01:25:30.000 Bukowski.

01:25:31.000 Yes. 1.00

01:25:31.000 The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. 1.00

01:25:37.000 See, I didn't even know that. 1.00

01:25:38.000 I didn't even know that book, The Big Bukowski.

01:25:40.000 It's a great movie.

01:25:41.000 Getting Back to Movies.

01:25:42.000 Yeah, it's a great one.

01:25:43.000 So what do we do?

01:25:44.000 Should we just humiliate ourselves?

01:25:46.000 No.

01:25:47.000 No, well, you don't want to humiliate yourself.

01:25:48.000 You just... Well, for humility, I mean.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, but there's a difference.

01:25:51.000 You know, when you humiliate yourself, you no longer have any dignity.

01:25:56.000 You're sort of offending your own dignity.

01:25:58.000 When Christ says, for instance, love your neighbor as you love yourself, well, if you truly hate yourself, Then, you know, it's not gonna be great for your neighbor.

01:26:06.000 So there is a recognition of human dignity here.

01:26:09.000 I mean, that kind of explains a lot of leftism as well.

01:26:14.000 A lack of self-confidence, a lack of understanding who you are, and that same level is translated into other people they also have no empathy or sympathy for.

01:26:23.000 There's also... virtue and vice are real things.

01:26:27.000 It's not just your opinion, man.

01:26:29.000 They really are real things.

01:26:31.000 And I do think there's a lot of shame. 0.97

01:26:33.000 I mean, you know, all this shout-your-abortion nonsense or the slut walks or whatever is... 1.00

01:26:38.000 The lady doth protest too much, methinks. 1.00

01:26:40.000 A little bit right.

01:26:41.000 I mean, clearly something is gnawing at them.

01:26:43.000 And I say this at various times in my life.

01:26:47.000 You know, I was an atheist for 10 years and I acted like it. 0.89

01:26:49.000 You know, you can really give yourself over more to just kind of doing whatever you want, vices and all this.

01:26:55.000 There are other times when you try to avoid that and you try to tame your will down.

01:26:59.000 And I will just tell you, It's better.

01:27:03.000 There is a reason that people have long sought the virtuous life.

01:27:08.000 And if you have a country that is just wracked by this shame and this guilt and this resentment, this anger and this self-hatred, and they don't know what to do with that, You're gonna, it's like a powder keg.

01:27:22.000 It's gonna pop.

01:27:22.000 Maybe we need, uh, what was it called?

01:27:24.000 Bushido?

01:27:25.000 Was that the?

01:27:26.000 Bukowski.

01:27:27.000 Lebowski.

01:27:28.000 No, yes.

01:27:28.000 Wait, what was that?

01:27:29.000 Hold on.

01:27:29.000 Ancient Japanese honor, honor code?

01:27:32.000 Bushido.

01:27:35.000 No, I'm talking about like, um, honor.

01:27:38.000 Yeah.

01:27:38.000 You know, uh, let me throw in a Star Trek reference while I get the chance.

01:27:41.000 Oh boy.

01:27:42.000 The, the, the, I, you know, I absolutely, uh, I'm a huge fan of Star Trek.

01:27:46.000 You fantasize, you fantasize?

01:27:47.000 I've never seen even a single property.

01:27:49.000 In the original Star Trek, there were... You've heard of Klingons, I'd imagine. 0.98

01:27:53.000 Yes, I have.

01:27:54.000 So the Federation is a united federation of planets.

01:27:59.000 It's very much reminiscent of the idea of America with classically liberal values.

01:28:03.000 And there are Klingons, and oh, they're enemies. 1.00

01:28:06.000 When the next generation was made, which was, you know, I think 1989 or 88, 89, maybe, they, uh, all the truckers are gonna be mad at me for not knowing the exact year.

01:28:13.000 They, they, the show starts with a Klingon serving on board a Federation ship to show that in the time span from the first series to the second, peace has been achieved.

01:28:24.000 In the story, what happened was a distress signal was sent out by a Klingon colony that was being attacked by Romulans.

01:28:30.000 Yeah.

01:28:31.000 Aliens started attacking, killing women and children.

01:28:32.000 The Federation Enterprise of its era went in without help and they all died trying to save their enemies.

01:28:43.000 And the Klingons saw that as a great act of honor because they're a culture of honor and warriors And so that's what ignited a peace agreement.

01:28:50.000 I just bring that up because I'm really, that story is so awesome, this amazing writing about how honor actually, like what it really meant.

01:29:00.000 And that you had this war-like warrior race that watched these, you know, classically liberal federation types say like, we're going, we're probably going to die, but we want to save our own enemies.

01:29:10.000 I think back to these stories about Batman and Superman refusing to kill at all costs because it was about what was true to them, what was right.

01:29:17.000 And what was honorable and now we have a moral framework.

01:29:21.000 Yeah in wokeness That's built upon just having power which means they will

01:29:26.000 sacrifice you They will they will they will they will figuratively burn

01:29:29.000 you at the stake because they want power There's no honor but honor honor doesn't it couldn't

01:29:34.000 possibly exist because we're actually told these two contradictory frameworks, right

01:29:39.000 These two contradictory anthropologies, one of which is we're meat puppets and all of these metaphysical things like honor, love, joy, dreams, it's all just delusions.

01:29:49.000 It's just synapses firing in our brain.

01:29:51.000 It's just a joke, right?

01:29:52.000 So that's one story we're told.

01:29:53.000 Then we're told the total opposite story, which is that Gnostic story that actually the ultimate reality is just my innermost self.

01:30:00.000 That is, whatever I want, whatever I perceive, is reality.

01:30:04.000 But there, too, there's no such thing as honor.

01:30:06.000 It's just my willfulness, as you say.

01:30:09.000 And I think part of the reason they tell us to believe in both of these contradictory ideas at the same time is what Orwell described as doublethink.

01:30:16.000 He says doublethink.

01:30:18.000 The thing about doublethink is it makes you unwilling and unable to reason, because you've got to hold the two contradictory ideas at the same time.

01:30:26.000 Both of them exclude the real world that you're describing, which is, oh, there's something beyond my will.

01:30:33.000 There is such a thing, and we can deny it all we want, but, you know, I recognize it when I see it.

01:30:38.000 There's such a thing as honor.

01:30:40.000 Now let's break down, you know, the connection.

01:30:44.000 Batman won't kill, Superman won't kill.

01:30:46.000 They've had their stories where they have for sure, but the general idea.

01:30:49.000 And why the story was written.

01:30:51.000 I'm not saying that Klingons are real. 1.00

01:30:53.000 It was written by people in the United States who believed in the value of it.

01:30:57.000 Imagine you have a moral framework that understands honor.

01:31:01.000 In this, the Batman won't kill the Joker.

01:31:04.000 Excellent writers have explored what happens when you have people with no honor meeting people with honor.

01:31:09.000 And one of the storylines in the DC Universe is that the Joker poisons Superman and then detonates a nuclear device, killing millions.

01:31:19.000 And Superman has a psychotic break where he says, if you just killed him, this would have never happened.

01:31:25.000 If you choose to sacrifice yourself to save your own enemy, and they don't share your morals, they'll laugh as you do it, and then slit your throat once you've saved them.

01:31:34.000 You will pull them up from the cliff, because you're the good guy with honor who says, I must save, even the bad guy, and then as soon as you do, they'll try and push you off the edge.

01:31:44.000 So you have people in the United States right now, I being a fan of Star Trek and these stories of Batman and these, you know, there's just stories for kids, but it inspired me and it made me understand what was honorable and moral.

01:31:56.000 That means I'm not willing to lie, cheat, or steal.

01:31:59.000 Yeah.

01:32:02.000 Especially during times of war.

01:32:06.000 If you look at the British in the Revolutionary War, for instance, the British were fighting in lines, standing up out in the open, honorably, and the Americans were hiding in the woods, stealing, lying. 0.51

01:32:16.000 Sending false orders.

01:32:17.000 That is mostly a myth.

01:32:19.000 It really was a lot of the same thing.

01:32:22.000 Like, meeting on battlefields.

01:32:24.000 But we did adopt some guerrilla tactics.

01:32:26.000 Yeah, to enhance your point, lying, cheating, and stealing was George Washington's forte.

01:32:30.000 Like, he was a master of deception.

01:32:31.000 That is an outrageous calumny.

01:32:33.000 No, I disagree with that.

01:32:34.000 I'm sorry.

01:32:35.000 He was a spy.

01:32:36.000 He would send false orders and lie and confuse the enemy in their battle lines.

01:32:39.000 Well, the armies used spies, as all armies do.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, he was a master spy.

01:32:42.000 George Washington is one of the most virtuous men who has ever walked the Earth. 0.98

01:32:45.000 But he was a killer.

01:32:46.000 He was a killer, but he was a justified killer. 1.00

01:32:48.000 And I mean, I think this is what we're getting at here, which is the honor of it all means, well, you say, okay, I want to be honorable, but then if my enemy doesn't recognize that honor, he's going to slit my throat, and what a fool I am, he's going to laugh at me. 1.00

01:33:04.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:33:04.000 But we still do it. 0.98

01:33:07.000 And you have to recognize, you can't fake it, I guess is what I'm saying.

01:33:12.000 It's very popular right now, I've noticed, in the kind of center and some disaffected liberals and on the right to say, man, all those old things we used to have like dignity and honor and religion and all, you know, I know that that's good, but I can't bring myself to believe in it.

01:33:28.000 Douglas Murray says this a lot, the British writer.

01:33:31.000 He'll say, look, I'm a Christian atheist, you know, I think it's good, but I can't bring myself to believe in it. 1.00

01:33:36.000 And the thing is, I sympathize with these people who know that it's a good thing, but they can't bring themselves to actually believe in it.

01:33:44.000 You can't fake it.

01:33:45.000 You actually have to believe that there is an objective moral order, that the Joker, he's gonna get his just desserts.

01:33:53.000 He's gonna get his comeuppance.

01:33:54.000 Maybe not in this life, but in the life to come.

01:33:56.000 That there actually is an objective good.

01:33:59.000 It's not just a sort of nice social thing that we all agree on to have a good society.

01:34:03.000 Because if you just pretend, then I think when it comes down to it, the real rubber meets the road, It's going to fall.

01:34:11.000 We're about to jump to superchats, but I want to tell you my kind of, I don't know, I don't know what you'd call it, religious view or so.

01:34:20.000 So first, I absolutely believe in God.

01:34:23.000 And I think one of the challenges a lot of people have when it comes to the idea of God is that they have, I guess, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but a child's view of what God would be.

01:34:33.000 Yeah, big man in the sky.

01:34:34.000 Exactly.

01:34:35.000 As opposed to a force beyond human imagination, like you can't even conceive of what... Outside of time and space.

01:34:42.000 Which, by the way, not to interrupt, but if God is to exist at all, he must, in his fullness, be incomprehensible.

01:34:50.000 Because if you could cram him into your little head, he just, by definition, wouldn't be God.

01:34:53.000 Exactly.

01:34:54.000 You know, so I think that's the first mistake people make and that they assume when people talk about God, it's a guy with a beard sitting on a cloud.

01:35:00.000 And I'm like, you know, like a child would imagine it or a comedian would depict it.

01:35:05.000 So I definitely believe in God.

01:35:08.000 But I think this, you mentioned, we have to view that, we have to believe that Joker will get his comeuppance.

01:35:13.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 There's something else that drives me in all this.

01:35:16.000 I started thinking about this a while ago about what's the point of life?

01:35:21.000 What is, why is life?

01:35:24.000 I can't tell you, because it's a great philosophical question that I don't think, you know, we are but small little meat puppets.

01:35:30.000 I could give you an answer.

01:35:31.000 Yeah?

01:35:32.000 To know God and enjoy him forever.

01:35:34.000 It's from the Catechism.

01:35:35.000 So, from my understanding of philosophy, the things I have read, the things I think, I understand that view, especially having grown up Catholic, but I started to think about, I need a function, right?

01:35:48.000 Like, let me try and look at the universe to what we claim to know about it, and we certainly don't know much, and a lot of these ideas are probably wrong, that's what science does, it gets things wrong, then it proves upon them later.

01:35:58.000 And I started thinking about entropy and negative entropy.

01:36:02.000 And I started thinking about what life does, organizing free energy into complex systems.

01:36:08.000 From the most rudimentary of self-replicating proteins, to single-celled organisms, to multi-celled organisms, to beyond that with ecosystems.

01:36:16.000 Where at first you have a multicellular organism consuming free energy and literally converting it into a replica of itself and expanding and having more and more kids and then eventually, you know, ten fish becomes a hundred fish.

01:36:28.000 They're converting those particles into fish.

01:36:31.000 They're organizing things.

01:36:32.000 They're creating.

01:36:33.000 Eventually you get abstract creations like an ecosystem where beavers start manipulating their environment and then, you know, an acorn falls and a squirrel plants it for the winter but forgets where it is and then a tree grows.

01:36:43.000 Then you get humans who start creating complex systems in the abstract.

01:36:47.000 Languages, ideas, they start mapping the universe.

01:36:51.000 I thought to myself, creation.

01:36:53.000 But not in the sense that we can create because we can't.

01:36:55.000 We can only change things.

01:36:56.000 We're procreators, yeah.

01:36:58.000 We're not actual creators.

01:36:59.000 So I think, to me, what I find to be the simple driving factor in all of this is that we are a force for good.

01:37:08.000 And what is that good?

01:37:10.000 It is to fix things, to protect things, to organize things, to grow things, to learn things.

01:37:15.000 And that's the most simple way I could ever see it.

01:37:18.000 That we organize, we organize.

01:37:20.000 It's the most rudimentary way to look at it.

01:37:22.000 However, think about what's good and what's bad.

01:37:24.000 Killing is wrong.

01:37:24.000 It horrifies people.

01:37:26.000 It's one of the most evil things a person can do.

01:37:29.000 Having children is one of the greatest things a person could do.

01:37:32.000 And so I think about why I would oppose the Joker is because he destroys.

01:37:38.000 He hurts and he causes detriment.

01:37:41.000 The one thing I see life doing is creating, procreating, developing, and that's what we should strive to do.

01:37:49.000 What you've just given is not a simplistic answer.

01:37:51.000 I mean, it's a simple answer, but it's not a simplistic one.

01:37:54.000 You're saying that you think that the purpose in life is to pursue the good.

01:37:58.000 That is just obviously true.

01:38:02.000 When I give the answer that it's to know God and enjoy Him forever, it that's just a more elaborate version of that answer right which is that the the good the true and the beautiful as the transcendentals of Being or have some sort of relation to one another and the ultimate expression of that is is in God and but your answer is totally right I think I have to complicate it though because in order to grow children you have to kill and consume So destruction is a part of this organization.

01:38:28.000 Yes in order to have negative entropy you must create more entropy, but we are I think I think I agree with you in that what we are doing as a species is we are getting to the best of our ability to try and know God.

01:38:43.000 I think, in my opinion, we are here because God wants us to protect and create and grow, and through our expansion of knowledge and philosophy and understanding, we are coming to know God better and better.

01:38:54.000 Have you guys seen kinematics in action?

01:38:56.000 Have you ever seen kinematics?

01:38:57.000 No.

01:38:57.000 It's when sound vibrates a membrane with rice on it, and the rice will vibrate.

01:39:03.000 And that's, I think, what God, this universal vibration, is like making our bodies behave a certain way.

01:39:09.000 I don't know if fate is real.

01:39:10.000 I don't know how you feel about fate and free will, and if we're just destined... Well, I think providence is real, and free will is also real, and that's a complicated, you know, situation.

01:39:19.000 But yeah, surely there is an order to things, and there is a providence and an unfolding of reality.

01:39:25.000 Let's put a tack in this, and we'll do the bonus segment, because we can go a lot longer, because we do have to do Super Chats.

01:39:31.000 A lot of people have questions for you, Michael.

01:39:32.000 But then we can do a... This is going to be a fun conversation.

01:39:34.000 I'm going to take all of Michael Malice's questions on that Super Chat.

01:39:37.000 I don't care how many come in.

01:39:38.000 I want them all.

01:39:39.000 Michael Malice's?

01:39:40.000 Yeah.

01:39:41.000 All right.

01:39:41.000 We got Jordan Jones.

01:39:43.000 He said... Oh, if you haven't already, get your Super Chats in.

01:39:45.000 We'll read as many as we can.

01:39:46.000 Smash the like button.

01:39:47.000 Become a member at TimCast.com.

01:39:48.000 We will have a bonus segment coming up.

01:39:50.000 We're going to talk about Philosophy God, probably DMT. 0.58

01:39:52.000 Am I on the Joe Rogan show?

01:39:56.000 Hold on.

01:39:57.000 But it's Ian's influence.

01:39:59.000 Let's talk about it.

01:40:00.000 Alright, we'll do that.

01:40:01.000 So go to TeamCast.com, sign up, and let's read some superchats.

01:40:04.000 We got Jordan Jones.

01:40:05.000 He says, Michael Knowles, I'm still subscribed over to the Daily Wire almost entirely because I enjoy your content.

01:40:10.000 Keep triggering libs and doing what you do.

01:40:14.000 Thanks, man.

01:40:14.000 You hear that, Ben, by the way?

01:40:15.000 That was a subscriber only there for me.

01:40:18.000 Don't you, don't you tow my car in the parking lot.

01:40:21.000 You know, I enjoy the triggering of libs and cons.

01:40:25.000 They're huge.

01:40:25.000 They're great.

01:40:26.000 I think people who get triggered, Ben is really good at not being triggered.

01:40:30.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 And that's enjoyable when Ben rolls with the punches and you got to do it.

01:40:34.000 So trigger away.

01:40:36.000 Yeah.

01:40:36.000 Thank you.

01:40:36.000 Appreciate it.

01:40:38.000 Threadian says, Michael, I bought your first book for our White Elephant Exchange a few years ago, and it was a monstrous hit.

01:40:47.000 Thank you.

01:40:48.000 You know, it is funny with that, the blank book.

01:40:50.000 It's called Reasons to Vote for Democrats, a comprehensive guide.

01:40:52.000 It's totally blank.

01:40:53.000 And I just did it to irritate my Democrat friends and relatives.

01:40:57.000 I thought I'd sell like 20 copies or something.

01:41:00.000 But the fact is, much like Thucydides, it is not for the applause of the moment.

01:41:04.000 It is an eternal contribution for all time.

01:41:07.000 It remains true every single year, truer and truer by the year.

01:41:11.000 So thank you.

01:41:12.000 I'm glad it was a hit.

01:41:13.000 I know you like, you just bragged to Ben.

01:41:16.000 So I'll read you this one.

01:41:17.000 Rampton says, can y'all have Andrew Clavin next time instead?

01:41:19.000 Real nice.

01:41:20.000 Good night, everybody.

01:41:22.000 Hey, you chased my guest away.

01:41:25.000 All right, here we go.

01:41:26.000 3D Pyromaniac says, let's see how long until Knowles plugs his newest book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order on Amazon, at least until they find out what it says.

01:41:35.000 Wow.

01:41:36.000 That sounds like a very... Could you repeat the name of that book?

01:41:39.000 That's so interesting.

01:41:41.000 I don't even need to plug it.

01:41:42.000 I've got all these wonderful people.

01:41:43.000 What's it called?

01:41:44.000 It's called Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.

01:41:46.000 It's available now for pre-order.

01:41:48.000 Oh, very cool.

01:41:48.000 I've heard.

01:41:49.000 On Amazon, right?

01:41:50.000 Until they ban it, yeah.

01:41:51.000 Speechless.

01:41:53.000 Because we have the best audience of any podcast.

01:41:56.000 Yes, of course.

01:41:57.000 Andrew Yu says Star Trek Next Generation, Season 4, Episode 21, Drumhead.

01:42:01.000 Picard has to stop a witch hunt on the Enterprise.

01:42:04.000 Fits so close to what the left does based on politics.

01:42:07.000 For real, man.

01:42:08.000 And what you need to understand about The Next Generation is that it was just written by a bunch of dudes in the late 80s and early 90s in America who held these values and were explaining to them to people.

01:42:19.000 It's amazing.

01:42:20.000 Man, what a great show.

01:42:22.000 Basically, the show is someone's accused.

01:42:23.000 I think this is what he's accused of.

01:42:24.000 Is this the one where they accuse the guy of being a spy?

01:42:26.000 Then they go around, they want to prosecute everybody and it's just lock them all up because they're, you know, they're spies.

01:42:34.000 Papa Bear says, Tim, big fan.

01:42:35.000 I'm a veteran, libertarian, and West Virginia native.

01:42:38.000 Wokeism is in our universities, although there are still some intelligent professors.

01:42:42.000 That's true, man.

01:42:43.000 That's true.

01:42:44.000 It's only getting worse.

01:42:45.000 What is going on with this?

01:42:47.000 Eli Wood.

01:42:48.000 Are you guys having the Daily Wire people send super chats or something?

01:42:51.000 What are they doing?

01:42:52.000 What's he saying?

01:42:52.000 I can't wait to see how many times Michael will plug his new book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order during tonight's show.

01:43:00.000 So I will say, so my book... Your audience, man.

01:43:04.000 So I've really conditioned them like Pavlov's dog.

01:43:06.000 I love it.

01:43:07.000 I have, because... So my book doesn't come out for two months.

01:43:09.000 They're actually one of the big tech companies.

01:43:11.000 Wow, really?

01:43:11.000 Yeah, but they're already kind of messing with the publisher's advertising campaign.

01:43:15.000 So I started... I knew this might happen, so I started plugging it.

01:43:18.000 Seriously, I started plugging it like three months out.

01:43:21.000 But it's not just... I'm not smooth about it.

01:43:24.000 I am.

01:43:24.000 I mean, we're talking like frying pan over the head.

01:43:28.000 So they actually, the producers on my show, created a little bing, a little bell every time I do it.

01:43:33.000 And, you know, if I do it like four times, like the screen starts to shake, you know, the universe starts to fall apart.

01:43:40.000 So it's, yeah, it's a Pavlovian reaction.

01:43:43.000 I see that.

01:43:43.000 It's working great.

01:43:44.000 So everyone's now super chatting so that I read and plug your book for you.

01:43:48.000 Beautiful.

01:43:49.000 Man, that's great. 0.99

01:43:50.000 Alright, I'll fight you naked says... I wrote a piece on Medium called Letter to a Woke Heart.

01:43:56.000 You can cite all the facts and statistics, but that rarely makes a difference.

01:43:59.000 However, if you can tell a story that shows the end of the road they are going down, you have a chance.

01:44:04.000 Interesting.

01:44:05.000 Yeah.

01:44:05.000 The issue is, you know, I worked for these nonprofits.

01:44:09.000 Not only did they train me how to convince someone of your political ideology very quickly and very easily in a matter

01:44:16.000 of minutes on the street for someone you've never met before.

01:44:18.000 I was also particularly good at it just on my own.

01:44:20.000 But the problem I had was, one day, it was when Deepwater Horizon happened.

01:44:26.000 They gave us our talking points, and I was reading about this, and I was like, man, this is bad.

01:44:30.000 And I was standing on the street, and I was talking to a guy, and I cited a number, and he goes, that's not true.

01:44:36.000 And I was like, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, it's like this many gallons are spilling.

01:44:40.000 No, it's not.

01:44:41.000 And then he pulled up his phone, and he's like, no, it was, it's, you know, it's this many number.

01:44:45.000 And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I must have had the wrong fax.

01:44:48.000 He's like, you're coming out here trying to lie to me to make me give you money?

01:44:51.000 And I was like, I'm sorry, dude.

01:44:53.000 I had no idea.

01:44:54.000 Someone must have given something wrong.

01:44:55.000 My apologies.

01:44:56.000 And he's like, yeah, whatever.

01:44:57.000 And he walks away.

01:44:57.000 Call the office.

01:44:58.000 And they were like, don't worry.

01:44:59.000 Just keep saying it.

01:45:01.000 And I was like, nah, you mean to tell me you had me lying out here?

01:45:05.000 Wow.

01:45:06.000 And so I got really mad.

01:45:07.000 I thought I was doing something good.

01:45:08.000 I thought I found a job where I was like, I was going to help.

01:45:11.000 And then it turns out I was helping their bottom line instead.

01:45:14.000 Yeah.

01:45:14.000 Well, because if the number that they gave you is a more persuasive story, Well, that's all they care- Right, if you don't- It was like CNN.

01:45:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, it might have been- Yeah, were you working for CNN at the time?

01:45:24.000 No, but we did fundraise, like, basically a block away from them.

01:45:27.000 Yeah, this was when I was out in LA.

01:45:30.000 And then I was just like, yeah, man, this is not legit.

01:45:35.000 And I'll tell you this.

01:45:37.000 If I wanted to, if I felt the ends justified the means?

01:45:41.000 Yeah.

01:45:42.000 Oh man, there'd be no question.

01:45:43.000 I'd get whatever I wanted.

01:45:44.000 The problem is there, there are no ends.

01:45:46.000 Yeah.

01:45:47.000 It's, you know, it's the question of, um, you know, once you stage your glorious revolution, how will you protect your, how will you protect from the next glorious revolution?

01:45:55.000 Yeah.

01:45:55.000 You think you're justified in using violence, deception, and manipulation today.

01:45:59.000 Then why would you stop doing it tomorrow?

01:46:01.000 Well, it's perpetual.

01:46:02.000 You know, Fidel Castro, when he's 92 years old, he's still wearing the military fatigues, like it's still the Cuban Revolution 50 years later.

01:46:10.000 Do you think that, um, like along the lines with that last guy super chatting that you, in order to help people, you're trying to explain a potential end to the road that is disastrous to warn them?

01:46:22.000 I don't know.

01:46:23.000 I don't know if that's enough.

01:46:25.000 Maybe this, like, Falcon and Winter Soldier thing will move people away from Antifa?

01:46:31.000 Yeah.

01:46:32.000 Yeah.

01:46:32.000 No, and I mean it because maybe what people need to realize when they're like, ah, it's woke, it's really bad, maybe from a conservative perspective, it's got too much social justice cuts, like, oh, you know, racism and whatever.

01:46:41.000 But maybe to somebody who's been beaten over the head by the wokeness, Yeah. 0.99

01:46:45.000 You open the door by showing them something they can relate to.

01:46:48.000 Hey, racism is bad, you know, look, the cops are bad.

01:46:50.000 And then you have the villains literally be Antifa.

01:46:53.000 And then they're going to be like, Captain America can stop you.

01:46:55.000 I believe in America and the American flag.

01:46:57.000 It's also, don't forget, the left, it's not that the left loves Antifa.

01:47:02.000 They recognize Antifa is a very dangerous thing that wants to burn it all down.

01:47:05.000 So they just use them.

01:47:06.000 They're the sort of tactical military wing.

01:47:09.000 I think I heard you describe it this way.

01:47:10.000 I heard someone describe it this way.

01:47:12.000 That Antifa is effectively the militant wing of the establishment.

01:47:16.000 But you got to rein it in sometimes.

01:47:18.000 When they're causing more harm than good, you got to rein them in.

01:47:21.000 And maybe now they're kind of like, OK, you know, we had Antifa for a few years.

01:47:24.000 It helped us with Trump. 0.54

01:47:25.000 And now we're going to maybe tone it down a little bit and cut them off and kick them out.

01:47:29.000 Yeah.

01:47:29.000 We'll see how that plays out.

01:47:31.000 All right.

01:47:31.000 Chris Pavotto says, as you often say, FB knows when we use the bathroom or other tracking ideas.

01:47:37.000 Would the government seriously touch Section 230 if shared our info?

01:47:41.000 In the wild, it's easier for the prey to hunt the weakest in packs as people are socially divided and preoccupied.

01:47:48.000 I don't know what you mean.

01:47:50.000 Would they touch Section 230?

01:47:51.000 Maybe, are you saying that as long as Facebook is allowed to operate with impunity, they can steal our information?

01:47:57.000 Or if they share it with the government?

01:47:58.000 Yeah.

01:47:59.000 Oh, right, if they share our information with the government, then they're going to protect their rights to keep doing it.

01:48:02.000 Yeah, well, there clearly is a partnership between these big tech firms and the government.

01:48:05.000 I actually asked Bill Barr this question when he was AG.

01:48:09.000 I said, all right, you're going to go after Section 230?

01:48:11.000 He said, all of the above.

01:48:12.000 Fraud, Section 230, all sorts of things.

01:48:15.000 That's how we have to go after it.

01:48:17.000 I said, OK, so why aren't you doing it?

01:48:19.000 And he said, there is a procedural difficulty here, which is that you'd be using different departments of the federal government.

01:48:28.000 Even within the DOJ, you'd be using different departments.

01:48:30.000 And we've never done something like this before.

01:48:33.000 The big tech companies are a new thing.

01:48:35.000 That's why they've been able to Do whatever they want.

01:48:38.000 And the government is not particularly good at taking on new challenges, and it's especially not good when it's benefiting in some ways from these challenges.

01:48:46.000 And so it kind of left me a little crestfallen and pessimistic about it, because I don't see the incentive, and frankly I don't even see the ability of these bureaucrats and DOJ officials to take them down.

01:48:58.000 Right on.

01:49:00.000 Jerk Longwell says, Tim, as a patriot, as a Marine vet, as an American, I loved the last episode of Falcon and Winter Soldier.

01:49:07.000 It's about being an American, not skin color.

01:49:10.000 I completely agree. 0.96

01:49:11.000 I was so stoked when he was like, I'm going to wear this flag and go beat up these, you know, open borders, you know, black clad individuals who think they can do whatever they want. 1.00

01:49:19.000 All right. 0.96

01:49:20.000 Opossum says, Aw man, I was hoping that Daily Wiregast was going to be Matt Walsh.

01:49:24.000 I saw some of that.

01:49:25.000 Hold on.

01:49:27.000 How do I do my... I'll do my best Matt Walter impression.

01:49:30.000 Just ask me anything.

01:49:31.000 2 plus 2 equals?

01:49:34.000 What's 2 plus 2 equal?

01:49:39.000 That's pretty much Matt.

01:49:41.000 Totally.

01:49:41.000 Matt happy.

01:49:42.000 Super cranky.

01:49:42.000 Matt sad.

01:49:43.000 Matt angry.

01:49:44.000 I watched the Candace Owens first day thing.

01:49:46.000 Stay out of my way.

01:49:48.000 Alright, Evil Zombie Hamster says, what's Rachel Maddow doing on the show? 1.00

01:49:53.000 Real nice.

01:49:53.000 I thought it was going to be someone from the Daily Wire.

01:49:55.000 JK love you Michael.

01:49:56.000 I listen to you almost every day.

01:49:58.000 You're very kind.

01:49:58.000 I left my Warby Parkers at home just to avoid that mistake.

01:50:04.000 I do love how they're paying to insult you but also tell you how you look.

01:50:07.000 I'll take advantage of that. 0.59

01:50:11.000 I know, I either get people paying to promote my book or to call me a lesbian on MSNBC.

01:50:18.000 I love it. 0.68

01:50:19.000 That's your joke.

01:50:20.000 You start.

01:50:20.000 Come and take them, says Tim.

01:50:22.000 I sent a chat last week.

01:50:23.000 Re my film.

01:50:24.000 10k investment in Timcast production.

01:50:26.000 Multiple creators looking for help but haven't received a reply via Spin the UFO.

01:50:30.000 Apology for the indelicacy but had the follow-up.

01:50:34.000 Hope y'all are well.

01:50:35.000 Pitches at Timcast.com is now the email and just keep in mind for everybody we get a ridiculous amount of emails and we just we try to go through them but You also gotta understand, a lot of people send bad emails, a lot of people send really great ones, and we gotta sift through it and figure out what we can and can't do.

01:50:53.000 A lot of long emails, a lot of not-so-nice emails.

01:51:00.000 All right, let's see.

01:51:02.000 The Fulcrum says, Tim, did you see Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo the other night?

01:51:05.000 They straight up take the side of the cop in the Columbus shooting.

01:51:09.000 Lemon even says tasers don't always work.

01:51:11.000 Blew my mind.

01:51:12.000 There was even a moment where Chris Cuomo said, you can't yell fire at a crowded theater.

01:51:17.000 And Don Lemon goes, no, no, that's not true.

01:51:19.000 You can.

01:51:21.000 And he goes, Chris, you're a lawyer.

01:51:23.000 You should know this.

01:51:24.000 And he's like, no, you can't do that.

01:51:26.000 And Don Lemon, I'm like, Wow.

01:51:28.000 Don Lemon's correct.

01:51:29.000 You can yell fire in a crowded theater.

01:51:31.000 Don Lemon does this thing where if you look at Don Lemon from like seven years ago, he was defending Bill O'Reilly sometimes.

01:51:41.000 Don Lemon was much more moderate, and as with all those guys at CNN, I think they just, for a while, they said, okay, you got to go far left, and what do they do?

01:51:49.000 They say, go far left.

01:51:50.000 Go dance.

01:51:51.000 They're pulling the strings, you know.

01:51:53.000 Sad.

01:51:54.000 Nbob says, two of the three people I listen to daily.

01:51:57.000 Wow.

01:51:57.000 I have Crowder's mug, Michael's tumblr.

01:51:59.000 Tim, when will you release your drinking vessel?

01:52:02.000 P.S.

01:52:02.000 There's a Tim Pool discord, well moderated.

01:52:05.000 Find on Reddit.

01:52:06.000 Love you both and crew.

01:52:08.000 Actually, I don't... I think there is already a Timcast mug available if you go to the store.

01:52:14.000 But it's... I think the only thing you can get is... I made this little drawing a couple years ago of the Illuminati pyramid with the... It's the...

01:52:22.000 The slogan for the U.S.

01:52:23.000 Office of Censorship toppled over, and it was just like a little piece of art I made, and I was like, oh, I'll slap it on something.

01:52:30.000 But I do think we have a mug that's about to come out, and it's an Ian mug.

01:52:33.000 And it's the Drake meme of Ian, and there's an alligator underwater, and Ian's like, no.

01:52:38.000 And then there's an alligator on land, and he's like, yes.

01:52:40.000 Yes!

01:52:41.000 Don't put an alligator underwater.

01:52:43.000 Because we were talking, and we were talking about getting dragged on Twitter, and then Ian said, Don't fight an alligator underwater. You want to don't don't

01:52:51.000 play their game. Don't get in the mud. That's true That's a good that's a good point

01:52:54.000 But you know, I was like these people on Twitter You'll be you'll be talking about a serious idea and also

01:52:58.000 they'll change the subject and try to insult you Yeah, and then he just goes yeah, you don't want to fight

01:53:01.000 an alligator underwater. Yeah, I was like, that's an excellent analogy

01:53:05.000 So we're gonna have a mug of you know, you drink fresh coffee out of that

01:53:09.000 That's really strong.

01:53:11.000 Well, we might.

01:53:11.000 We'll see.

01:53:12.000 That's the old advice about don't wrestle a skunk.

01:53:14.000 Because even if you win, you're not going to smell great.

01:53:22.000 Sockpuppet Joe says, can you guys get Coleman Hughes on the show?

01:53:25.000 Maybe if Coleman wants to come on the show.

01:53:27.000 I've actually interviewed Coleman Hughes in the past.

01:53:29.000 So perhaps.

01:53:31.000 Brandon says, Michael, I've been listening to your show since it first aired back when I wasn't sure where I stood politically.

01:53:37.000 Thanks for helping inspire the patriotism and values in me to join the USAF.

01:53:41.000 Best decision I ever made.

01:53:43.000 Man, that's awesome.

01:53:44.000 Cool.

01:53:44.000 Well, thank you for your service.

01:53:46.000 I was afraid it was going to say, you know, I've tried to figure it out by listening to your show, and now I joined Antifa.

01:53:50.000 So thank you, Michael.

01:53:52.000 I realized I hate you.

01:53:57.000 TWXRated says Tim is controlled opposition.

01:54:00.000 Well, I am certainly not controlled opposition, but I am fully self-aware of the issue of the shift in the Overton window and why YouTube likes the idea that they have a channel like mine.

01:54:13.000 I keep saying the CCP.

01:54:14.000 I don't know.

01:54:15.000 But I think they have, like, sock puppets that comment that try to sway your mind as a YouTuber or as a public opinion so that you, without even realizing it, start to repeat talking points.

01:54:25.000 So maybe we're all being... I also know there is a recording device under the beanie.

01:54:29.000 I do know for a fact Tim is a fed.

01:54:31.000 I know that.

01:54:31.000 On the back of my head is a little dish.

01:54:33.000 You never see his back on film.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, no one's ever seen it.

01:54:36.000 No, it's true.

01:54:38.000 Thomas Cutler says, Michael Knowles, Ben Shapiro let you out?

01:54:41.000 Your stuff is awesome.

01:54:42.000 Keep up the good work.

01:54:43.000 Thanks, man.

01:54:44.000 I appreciate it.

01:54:44.000 I know I have to sneak out.

01:54:46.000 Although it's much easier these days, you know.

01:54:48.000 Ben is spending more time in Florida, in the land of the free, and now I get to be in Nashville, which I guess is also kind of the land of the free out there.

01:54:58.000 We're all in a way better mood ever since we got out of Mussolini's hellhole.

01:55:02.000 Oh, nice.

01:55:05.000 Michael Brogan says, holy S it's Michael effing Knowles.

01:55:09.000 That's it.

01:55:09.000 That's the super chat plug.

01:55:11.000 Speechless, controlling words, controlling minds.

01:55:14.000 Ping, ping, ping plug counter.

01:55:17.000 That's my favorite comment.

01:55:18.000 Not only from this show, from weeks.

01:55:21.000 From weeks of my show, too.

01:55:22.000 What you have done with your show and your audience, to plug this book, is genius.

01:55:26.000 Because now you come on my show and they're making me promote your book.

01:55:30.000 That's amazing.

01:55:31.000 Man, that is great.

01:55:34.000 Why do we have a marketing department at The Daily Wire?

01:55:36.000 I want to start getting their salary, too.

01:55:39.000 Just meme-ify your marketing by having people... Really, the viewers should be getting the salary.

01:55:43.000 They're doing all the marketing.

01:55:45.000 That'd be incredible.

01:55:45.000 Then they can have more super chats.

01:55:47.000 It's nice.

01:55:47.000 And then I can say, hey!

01:55:50.000 Abby Long says, Michael, now that Tim has sponsors, I'm sure he'd like to learn from the best how to seamlessly transition.

01:55:55.000 Yours are like sneaky ninjas.

01:55:57.000 Wow, that is really nice. 0.97

01:55:59.000 You know what?

01:56:00.000 One thing you need to do is you need to practice and you need to study, but no one has any time.

01:56:05.000 So one great way to study is through the Great Courses Plus, which you can actually get right now with promo code Knowles.

01:56:10.000 Get it W-L-E-S. 1.00

01:56:11.000 I hope That they give me credit for an extra plug.

01:56:16.000 You know, they do it by the read.

01:56:17.000 So I want, I'm going to talk to the department.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:19.000 See what you can do.

01:56:20.000 That's good.

01:56:20.000 There you go.

01:56:21.000 That's how it's done.

01:56:24.000 S, uh, what is this?

01:56:24.000 Sklizbot?

01:56:26.000 That's awesome.

01:56:26.000 Michael, if you had one cigar to smoke before your time comes, what would it be?

01:56:30.000 It'd be a Partagus 2008 15 Anniversario La Casa Del Habano special release.

01:56:37.000 That's what it would be.

01:56:39.000 Are those available for purchase in the United States?

01:56:41.000 They are not.

01:56:41.000 They're not available for purchase anywhere.

01:56:43.000 Not only are they contraband, they are not available anywhere.

01:56:46.000 Rolled on the thighs of virgins. 1.00

01:56:48.000 So they say.

01:56:49.000 Yes.

01:56:49.000 That's majestic.

01:56:50.000 That's a great cigar.

01:56:51.000 Joey Martina says, Ian, I'm sorry for being hard on you. 0.72

01:56:54.000 It's not your fault you have white privilege and can't pick up what Tim lays down. 0.86

01:56:58.000 Dude, I had to leave. 0.93

01:57:00.000 One of my friends in L.A.

01:57:01.000 told me we were in an argument about Hillary Clinton and the email scandal and everything.

01:57:05.000 He was like, you have white privilege.

01:57:08.000 And I didn't know how to respond.

01:57:09.000 It was like, I felt betrayed by my friend.

01:57:12.000 And I gave up on the L.A.

01:57:13.000 after that.

01:57:14.000 Because you knew a bunch of facts?

01:57:17.000 So the white privilege is like, Knowing things?

01:57:21.000 That seems very bigoted.

01:57:22.000 It was so weird.

01:57:23.000 I could not defend it.

01:57:24.000 It was the weirdest thing to be told that I had white privilege by someone.

01:57:27.000 I didn't... Do I?

01:57:28.000 I don't know if I... I'm kind of swarthy.

01:57:30.000 I don't know if I... Do I count?

01:57:32.000 I don't know.

01:57:32.000 It's the Italian question.

01:57:33.000 It's plagued racialists for decades. 0.96

01:57:36.000 All right, Bottled Water says, Won't lie, and my fans know I struggle with addiction.

01:57:40.000 My mom died last year, and my channel is my escape.

01:57:42.000 I see my falls.

01:57:43.000 I know my failures, but I try.

01:57:45.000 Right on.

01:57:46.000 Man, I'm sorry to hear that about your mom.

01:57:48.000 It's a very, very difficult thing to go through.

01:57:52.000 I'm trying to think, you know, my mother also died when I was young, and I was like an atheist at the time.

01:57:58.000 I didn't have any addictions or anything like that, but But it would, you know, I didn't have like a really coherent moral framework and it's a very difficult thing.

01:58:07.000 So I hope in some way, you know, I do hope that you can come to not, you know, not just a wishful thinking or wish casting as you arrive at a moral framework or some understanding of the world.

01:58:19.000 C.S.

01:58:19.000 Lewis has a good line about this.

01:58:20.000 He says that if you look for truth, you might find comfort in the end, but if you look for comfort, you'll find neither truth nor comfort, only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.

01:58:31.000 So I think if you look for truth, hopefully you'll get a bit of comfort out of that.

01:58:35.000 Right on.

01:58:36.000 Bubbles FTW says, Knowles, you're awesome.

01:58:39.000 Loved Another Kingdom.

01:58:40.000 Thanks to you and Drew for that.

01:58:42.000 Can you recount your argument to the walnut brains who think a regulated militia means the state should regulate? 0.83

01:58:47.000 Oh, that's good.

01:58:48.000 Man, I thought we were going down in another kingdom question, and then we get to... Yeah, well, yeah, the well-regulated militia would obviously have to be an antecedent to the state, right?

01:59:00.000 Because if you've got this well-regulated militia, where's the militia getting the arms from?

01:59:06.000 Where is the militia getting its organization from?

01:59:08.000 Especially in the case of the revolutionary era.

01:59:11.000 So you're saying we should embrace the left's argument on the well-regulated militia because it means the government has to give everyone guns.

01:59:16.000 Yes, like Switzerland, actually.

01:59:18.000 Yeah, that's wow.

01:59:19.000 Man, thank you for the question.

01:59:21.000 Thank you for the point.

01:59:22.000 I'm going to take this argument way further.

01:59:23.000 We need such regulations that I want, like, two M60s delivered to my door every year.

01:59:30.000 I'm not kidding when I say universal health care.

01:59:34.000 Okay.

01:59:34.000 Oh universal guns as well.

01:59:36.000 Yeah, so we'll need it We'll need a Department of Gun Services regulated by the government where you can walk in and as soon as you're 16 They've got your choice of a handgun and long gun.

01:59:45.000 Yes, and you get one of each as well as a box ammo for both now I do think there should be a very simple test, like with driving test, but not an identification system.

01:59:57.000 You know, like, obviously you gotta go in with your ID or whatever to prove who you are so you can get the gun.

02:00:01.000 But that would be racist.

02:00:03.000 But then there would be gun suppression. 0.89

02:00:06.000 Specifically in the black community. 0.79

02:00:07.000 You're right. 0.98

02:00:08.000 You should be able to walk in and say, one gun please.

02:00:13.000 There it is.

02:00:13.000 Convinced me.

02:00:14.000 You think I'm joking.

02:00:15.000 I used to be kind of like middle of the road on 2A.

02:00:18.000 I was like, no, I understand why we have it.

02:00:20.000 But I think, you know, I've seen, seen some arguments about common sense, gun reform, and then I had some real conversations and I was like, okay, yeah, I was definitely wrong about that.

02:00:28.000 So long as second amendment exists, it must be respected in all its forms.

02:00:32.000 Then the riots happened and I was like, I would like one 50 BMG please.

02:00:36.000 And I get a couple of those bullpup shotguns.

02:00:38.000 And, uh, how many guns can I legally buy right now?

02:00:41.000 All of them?

02:00:41.000 I'll take them all.

02:00:42.000 I noticed it too, you know, when I was single, I was like, cool with guns, but I didn't, I don't really care that much.

02:00:47.000 Then I got married, and I thought, okay, yeah, I'd like to have a gun, just, you know, in case my wife gets out of line or something.

02:00:54.000 No, no, no, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah.

02:00:55.000 I'm sorry, did you say a gun?

02:00:57.000 Yeah, well, this was the issue, because I, you know, I was just testing the waters.

02:01:01.000 I said, I want to be able to protect my family, but, you know, it's just me and my wife, whatever.

02:01:04.000 We're living in an apartment.

02:01:06.000 Then I have the kid and we moved to a house because we moved to Tennessee and now I'm just like here is the wallet.

02:01:14.000 I want all the guns Yes, at least just to be You know, I think I'm obviously joking about but I love how like these it's not leftist leftist love guns Yeah, they quote Marx all the time about it.

02:01:28.000 It's these like urban uppity liberals who are very anti-gun.

02:01:32.000 Yeah, and And they all gloat to each other about gun nuts and I'm

02:01:34.000 like dude I don't take guns that seriously. I have a bunch because it's

02:01:38.000 like a metal tube. Yeah, it's not It's not gonna jump up and attack you by the way. Yeah, it's

02:01:43.000 also Well, they refer to the you know, the gun nuts and all

02:01:46.000 these crazy people and then they say things like, you know yeah, he had a

02:01:51.000 200 round clip in his fully semi-auto, you know, and they just have no idea what they're talking about, you know

02:01:57.000 But were there not?

02:01:58.000 Do you think that teaching kids, or like 16-year-olds, how to build a gun, maybe 3D print parts and construct a gun, and then fire it and learn how to fire it, would make them be more likely to commit criminal acts with a gun?

02:02:10.000 No.

02:02:10.000 No, no.

02:02:11.000 Then I think we should put it in like shop class.

02:02:12.000 Absolutely.

02:02:13.000 Totally.

02:02:14.000 That's a good idea.

02:02:14.000 There are people walking around every day with guns and you don't know it.

02:02:17.000 The amazing thing to me is that people, the reason like states like New Jersey and Maryland only allow concealed

02:02:22.000 carry is because I guess people would freak out or something. What

02:02:26.000 that means is when you're in a state as restrictive as New Jersey

02:02:29.000 there are people all around you all the time carrying guns and you don't know it.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, and it's I mean, you've not been shot have you?

02:02:34.000 The key is and I don't I don't like I wouldn't make it the number one priority to teach the kids how to

02:02:38.000 how to like 3D print a gun because I want them to have a higher quality gun too

02:02:42.000 but the real key is I need them to know how to use a gun just to be safe, just to be safe around my guns and just to

02:02:48.000 be safe around other people.

02:02:50.000 I was watching Jack Reacher the other day, and he walks up to a car, he hits the guy, he takes his gun, and then he just goes, click, click, click, and disassembles it and throws it.

02:02:57.000 And I'm like, see, a kid should be able to do that.

02:02:59.000 Yes.

02:02:59.000 Should be able to press, you know, pull the hammer or whatever off and just... I felt phenomenally more confident after I fired a gun.

02:03:06.000 I've only been to the range once, but Luke was showing me, Luke Rutkowski, how to, like, arm, how to load a gun, where the safety is, how you trigger it, how do you arm it.

02:03:14.000 And it, I feel just like so much more confident as a human knowing that Well, you know what Homer Simpson says about this.

02:03:20.000 He says that when you hold a gun, you feel like how God must feel when he holds a gun.

02:03:26.000 Yeah.

02:03:27.000 Well, it reminds me of the Futurama episode.

02:03:30.000 You ever see Futurama?

02:03:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:31.000 So it's the one where it's the what-if machine and Leela goes to basically the Wizard of Oz world.

02:03:37.000 Then they go and meet the professor, and Fry walks up, and then he's like, for you, a brain.

02:03:43.000 And then he's like, why do people keep saying this? 0.66

02:03:45.000 But then Zoidberg is the cowardly lion, and he's like, I want courage.

02:03:49.000 And he goes, oh, who needs courage when you have a gun? 0.97

02:03:52.000 And then he gives him a gun.

02:03:54.000 And then Zoidberg's like, ah, ha, ha, ha.

02:03:55.000 And he starts spinning and going pew, pew, pew.

02:03:58.000 Who needs courage?

02:03:59.000 Well, I think that's how Joe Biden and many people on the left want you to warn off the bad guys. 0.99

02:04:06.000 Just shoot it in the air like a Mexican gangster. 1.00

02:04:08.000 Joy Behar said that. 0.99

02:04:10.000 She was like, why did the cop just shoot the gun in the air?

02:04:12.000 Because the bullet would come down and kill somebody.

02:04:14.000 Have you ever heard of gravity?

02:04:15.000 Gravity is a big problem.

02:04:17.000 They think the bullet goes to outer space and then it just keeps going.

02:04:21.000 Yeah, I mean, if it was that simple to launch things out of space, I'd tell you.

02:04:24.000 Yeah.

02:04:25.000 All right.

02:04:25.000 Christopher Knowles says, Michael, you and I share a name via my deadbeat grandfather.

02:04:30.000 Coincidence?

02:04:31.000 JK, nothing but love.

02:04:32.000 Don't ever stop what you do.

02:04:33.000 You're doing the Lord's work.

02:04:34.000 Lord's work.

02:04:35.000 Graphene for the win.

02:04:36.000 Wow.

02:04:36.000 That is great.

02:04:37.000 I actually can't, from the writing of that question, I can't tell if that was just a coincidentally a Christopher Knowles or if that is my actual cousin Christopher.

02:04:45.000 I'm going to say it's the latter.

02:04:46.000 And here's why.

02:04:48.000 My cousin Cree's a legendary sort of guy.

02:04:50.000 Very, very... This is a guy who knows his way around a firearm.

02:04:54.000 And I hadn't seen him for a while, you know, and that one time I'm waiting to give a speech, and I walked in, I was walking to UPenn.

02:05:00.000 And he just like comes out from behind a pillar or something.

02:05:02.000 He's like, hey, hey, what's up?

02:05:03.000 Hey, hey.

02:05:04.000 I was like, wow, man, I can't.

02:05:05.000 Where'd you come from?

02:05:05.000 I haven't seen you in a while.

02:05:06.000 He's like, don't worry.

02:05:07.000 I'll just be in the back.

02:05:08.000 Just want to see the speech.

02:05:09.000 See you later.

02:05:09.000 So I bet it's him.

02:05:11.000 He's always kind of around.

02:05:13.000 Scary.

02:05:13.000 He is.

02:05:14.000 Very impressive guy.

02:05:15.000 Iron Price says when's the next time Luke will be on?

02:05:18.000 Luke abandoned us.

02:05:19.000 He did.

02:05:20.000 He left.

02:05:20.000 It is unknown.

02:05:22.000 He left.

02:05:22.000 I'd be reffed.

02:05:23.000 Luke's motives are his own.

02:05:24.000 Yep.

02:05:24.000 Do you know Luke Rikowsky?

02:05:26.000 I know, I don't.

02:05:28.000 No, he runs We Are Change and he's got his own website and YouTube and stuff and he was here for a little while.

02:05:33.000 Everybody really loved him and then he left us.

02:05:35.000 And he's gone.

02:05:36.000 He's gone.

02:05:36.000 On to better pastures.

02:05:37.000 He's in Florida.

02:05:38.000 He is in Florida, yes.

02:05:41.000 He is in Florida.

02:05:43.000 Bo Darville says, that's not Rachel Maddow!

02:05:46.000 Well, you know, we overpromised perhaps.

02:05:48.000 How do you know?

02:05:48.000 Have you ever seen us in the same room at the same time?

02:05:50.000 No.

02:05:52.000 Just lower your voice and you can do either show.

02:05:55.000 Dan says, I just want Michael to know that had a really intense experience with edibles and watching compilations of him owning libs helped me through it.

02:06:02.000 Also, his hair looks great.

02:06:04.000 That's, that's an amazing super chat.

02:06:06.000 It's like someone sitting there eating edibles like this is getting crazy.

02:06:08.000 I better watch Michael Knowles.

02:06:10.000 Oh, he's owning the libs.

02:06:11.000 Yeah, I have nothing to add to that.

02:06:13.000 I'm just really pleased.

02:06:14.000 Do you ever load up, like, a bunch of videos of you talking at the same time and listen to them all at once?

02:06:19.000 Oh, well, I only watch myself.

02:06:21.000 In my free time?

02:06:22.000 Yeah, only.

02:06:23.000 Of course, yeah.

02:06:24.000 It'll change your life.

02:06:25.000 Yeah, I like to, after I record, I hit myself in the head so I forget everything I said and then watch it like it's new.

02:06:31.000 You gotta do it.

02:06:32.000 Load up, like, eight of your videos and just start them all.

02:06:34.000 My stuff, you can watch it on repeat, though.

02:06:36.000 It never gets old.

02:06:37.000 It's really, oh, it's just great.

02:06:38.000 Yeah, my wife loves it. 0.98

02:06:40.000 Oh, sure.

02:06:41.000 It's a good way to put it.

02:06:42.000 There's something to that.

02:06:43.000 Inordinate love of one's own excellence, yeah.

02:06:45.000 is about understanding that humans, while capable of greatness, are only capable of

02:06:49.000 so much.

02:06:50.000 Pride, the sin, is the exaltation of self, the belief that you and only you are capable

02:06:55.000 of greatness."

02:06:56.000 That's a good way to put it.

02:06:57.000 There's something to that.

02:06:58.000 Inordinate love of one's own excellence, yeah.

02:07:00.000 All right, I'm going to read it.

02:07:03.000 Joseph Hoffman says, Michael, I'm looking forward to your new book, Speechless, Controlling

02:07:07.000 Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.

02:07:09.000 Say the line.

02:07:11.000 Say the line! 0.66

02:07:15.000 I'll make it worth it for Michael coming on the show.

02:07:18.000 Man, I'm probably like number one right now on Amazon.

02:07:20.000 I'll check after the show.

02:07:23.000 All right, we'll do a couple more because we're going a little over and we have a ton of super chats.

02:07:25.000 I really appreciate you guys.

02:07:26.000 I wish I could read everyone, but I can't.

02:07:29.000 So we'll just do two more.

02:07:31.000 Charlie in Charge says, this is for everyone.

02:07:33.000 What are your thoughts on changing your legal status to a secured party creditor?

02:07:37.000 Sovereign citizen, state nationalist, pros, cons.

02:07:40.000 Are those things?

02:07:40.000 Are those real?

02:07:42.000 Is that like you're declaring your emancipation from your country or something?

02:07:47.000 I don't know.

02:07:48.000 If that's what it means, I'm against it.

02:07:50.000 I love my country, even though my country is driving me crazy.

02:07:54.000 Love of country is an extension of your love of your parents.

02:07:56.000 Maybe you've got good parents, maybe you've got bad parents, but your parents are your parents, your kids are your kids, and I could no more disavow my country than I could disavow my own family.

02:08:05.000 This is the best country on the planet.

02:08:06.000 I'm open to the conversation and the logistics of that kind of thing, but I'm also kind of like, I like this, the defensive structure of the United States.

02:08:16.000 I mean, the legal structure for all its problems right now is still just like the best.

02:08:20.000 I suppose the prison system in Norway is better.

02:08:23.000 It's basically a hotel.

02:08:24.000 All right.

02:08:25.000 But they're also like, what, 8 million people or something?

02:08:27.000 Yeah.

02:08:28.000 330 million people.

02:08:29.000 We got things we got to fix, man.

02:08:30.000 I'm all for prison reform, but I think this is still the best country on the planet.

02:08:34.000 Yeah, there's pros and there's cons for everything.

02:08:35.000 I have no interest in going any other country at all right now.

02:08:39.000 COVID especially.

02:08:40.000 But I just have no interest.

02:08:41.000 I love this country.

02:08:42.000 This is the thing.

02:08:43.000 Even when you go to countries that you like.

02:08:45.000 I like Italy.

02:08:46.000 I look Italian.

02:08:48.000 Part of my family comes from Italy.

02:08:49.000 The most beautiful art in the world.

02:08:51.000 Good food.

02:08:53.000 But I go to Italy, I've gone a handful of times, and after, I don't know, like five or six days, you just think... I'll give you an example.

02:09:03.000 I was in Siena, and it's a nice old medieval town, and I go to the sandwich shop.

02:09:07.000 The sandwich shop is called a paninoteca.

02:09:09.000 Pan, it means bread, it's the first part of the word, right?

02:09:12.000 So I go, it's like noon, go to get a sandwich.

02:09:15.000 It's closed.

02:09:16.000 Why?

02:09:16.000 I'm sitting there, I have a book, I'm just like, I'll just read, I'll wait.

02:09:21.000 Twenty minutes goes by.

02:09:23.000 Thirty minutes.

02:09:24.000 Forty-five minutes goes by.

02:09:25.000 The guy finally walks up.

02:09:27.000 He says, now past my lunchtime.

02:09:30.000 I say, oh good.

02:09:31.000 Can I buy a sandwich now?

02:09:32.000 He goes, non c'est pas.

02:09:34.000 There's no bread.

02:09:37.000 I said, well when can I?

02:09:38.000 He goes, I don't know.

02:09:39.000 I'm going to go out and get the bread.

02:09:40.000 You can wait or you can go.

02:09:43.000 I want to give you my money.

02:09:44.000 I want you to give me a good and a service, for they don't get it.

02:09:47.000 America gets it much more.

02:09:49.000 Yeah.

02:09:49.000 All right.

02:09:50.000 This last one is a very serious one for you, Michael.

02:09:52.000 Lex McCormick says, Michael, I struggle with the silence of God.

02:09:56.000 I debate a Christian coworker often about God's absence in my life.

02:09:59.000 Might have you some insight for someone who is jealous of those with faith.

02:10:04.000 Why can't I hear the burning bush?

02:10:07.000 It is an evil generation that looks for signs and wonders. 1.00

02:10:10.000 It is a stupid generation that ignores signs and wonders. 1.00

02:10:13.000 And a lot of people, you know, who are maybe going down the wayward path. 1.00

02:10:17.000 This happened to me, really, when I was, you know, in my full wayward youth and atheistic phase.

02:10:23.000 Eventually, after the intellectual parts of it, of believing in God came through, after I was convinced about Christianity, Only then did I start to have these sort of numinous experiences, which you call religious experience.

02:10:34.000 And a lot of people feel really honored by that.

02:10:37.000 And it is, in a way, if you recognize this sort of semiotic view of the world, all these rich in symbols.

02:10:43.000 But also, you could read it as God looking at you and saying, Hey, buddy! 1.00

02:10:49.000 Hey, you stupid idiot! 1.00

02:10:50.000 Hey, I'm right here! 1.00

02:10:50.000 Why can't you figure it out, you know? 1.00

02:10:52.000 And so, if you're not feeling the emotional presence of God all the time, you know, okay.

02:11:00.000 I'm sorry for you if you really need that for your faith.

02:11:04.000 God's existence is true and permanent outside of the emotional feelings that you have.

02:11:12.000 And it's not always going to be there, and it won't always be away either.

02:11:15.000 I think I told this, I guess it's sort of a joke yesterday, about the guy in the flood.

02:11:20.000 But considering what this question just was, maybe there's a lot of people who haven't heard it.

02:11:24.000 So I'm gonna say it again, and we'll wrap up on this.

02:11:26.000 But let me just tell you that it's a joke story, I guess.

02:11:29.000 There's a man in his home, and the news comes on that there's a horrible storm coming.

02:11:35.000 And he prays and says, you know, my faith in God will keep me safe.

02:11:38.000 And all of a sudden, you know, a car pulls up.

02:11:40.000 They run to the door.

02:11:41.000 They bang on the door.

02:11:41.000 Quick, we've got to get out of here.

02:11:42.000 The water is rising.

02:11:43.000 It's going to start flooding.

02:11:44.000 You've got to come with us.

02:11:45.000 And he says, no, no, my faith in the Lord will keep me safe.

02:11:48.000 And they say, no, no, no, don't be crazy.

02:11:50.000 He refuses.

02:11:51.000 They leave.

02:11:51.000 The water rises.

02:11:53.000 He goes up to a second floor.

02:11:54.000 He starts praying again.

02:11:55.000 Then a boat comes to the window.

02:11:57.000 And the guy says, quick, get in the boat.

02:11:59.000 We're getting you out of here.

02:11:59.000 We're going to save you.

02:12:00.000 And he goes, no, no, I know that my faith in the Lord will save me.

02:12:03.000 And they're like, you have to come.

02:12:04.000 And he's like, I believe in the Lord.

02:12:06.000 Fine.

02:12:07.000 And they leave.

02:12:08.000 The waters rise, he climbs on his roof.

02:12:10.000 Now he's praying, and a helicopter comes, and a guy's hanging from a ladder, and he says, Quick!

02:12:14.000 Climb up!

02:12:15.000 We're gonna save you!

02:12:16.000 And he goes, No!

02:12:17.000 I know that my faith in the Lord will save me!

02:12:19.000 And they're like, Don't be crazy!

02:12:20.000 You have to get in the helicopter!

02:12:21.000 And he refuses.

02:12:22.000 The waters rise, and he drowns.

02:12:25.000 He ends up in heaven, and he goes, he sees God, and he goes, and he says, I don't understand.

02:12:30.000 I had faith in you.

02:12:31.000 Why did you save me?

02:12:32.000 And he said, I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter, and you wouldn't take it!

02:12:36.000 What am I supposed to do?

02:12:37.000 And I always thought that was a great, great joke that people expect, um, too much of miracles.

02:12:42.000 I think they expect too much of signs.

02:12:45.000 And it's an interesting question about what, you know, to me, what faith is, because I am not theistic by any stretch of the imagination, no church for me, no Bible and stuff.

02:12:52.000 But I will say this, I have seen some stuff in my life.

02:12:55.000 It's undeniable when you see it.

02:12:57.000 It's and you know, someone told me something when I was younger. You can't give someone an experience

02:13:02.000 Yeah, and so, you know, I was hanging out with these these these these skater dudes that I knew they're very Christian

02:13:07.000 And we're having philosophical conversations. It was amazing stuff

02:13:09.000 and they just said I'm not interested in trying to justify my my beliefs to you because

02:13:14.000 Like I'll explain to you how I feel I'll tell you what I think is true and because I want to help you

02:13:19.000 But I understand I can't give you the experience I had and I'm like, I totally understand that. Yeah, I can I can

02:13:26.000 empathize.

02:13:27.000 And then in my life, I've just seen things that, to me, have been profound and indicative of something greater.

02:13:34.000 This is profound.

02:13:35.000 I mean, just the fact that two saltwater monkey bodies are sitting here, verbal, making communication. 0.97

02:13:41.000 And I'm like, this is God talking to me through you, through your vibration in your magical brain things.

02:13:49.000 That's the thing, right?

02:13:49.000 Ian, when you talk about like magnetism and stuff, It's it's easily just the mechanism of mechanisms of God.

02:13:55.000 And that I think there's a lot of people who have either a reductionist view or a very simplistic view.

02:14:00.000 And they'll say something like, no, that's not a miracle.

02:14:02.000 That's just the vibrations.

02:14:03.000 And it's like the mechanisms of God.

02:14:05.000 Of all the things I've been called on this show tonight, saltwater monkey body.

02:14:10.000 It's my favorite one.

02:14:11.000 That is very vivid.

02:14:13.000 I heard you have a book coming out.

02:14:15.000 Yeah, only through the Super Chats.

02:14:17.000 Only through the Super Chats.

02:14:17.000 All right, everybody, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.

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02:14:31.000 We're going to go, we're going to talk about God and faith a little bit more and Ian and magnetism and we'll have some crazy profound Well, I don't know.

02:14:39.000 I mean, I got a few things going on.

02:14:40.000 I do have this book, though.

02:14:41.000 Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.

02:14:43.000 It's available now for pre-order.

02:14:45.000 We'll be back Monday after this.

02:14:46.000 You can check out my other YouTube channels, youtube.com slash Timcast and youtube.com slash Timcast

02:14:51.000 News.

02:14:51.000 Michael Knowles, is there something you want to promote while you're here?

02:14:54.000 Well, I don't know.

02:14:55.000 I mean, I got a few things going on.

02:14:58.000 I do have this book though.

02:14:59.000 Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.

02:15:01.000 It's available now for pre-order.

02:15:02.000 We'll see how much longer though.

02:15:03.000 Ding.

02:15:04.000 Yes.

02:15:05.000 What is it about, by the way?

02:15:07.000 Well, you know, this and that.

02:15:08.000 It's a lot about what we're talking about.

02:15:09.000 I actually, I can give you a sort of brief description of it.

02:15:12.000 It's a history of political correctness from 1920 to 2020.

02:15:16.000 It is following the leftist intellectuals who brought us along.

02:15:20.000 I learned writing the book that the leftist intellectuals who created this thing called PC or wokeism know a lot more about free speech than we do and that we give them credit for.

02:15:30.000 It breaks down why every step of the way we lost.

02:15:34.000 In my humble opinion, and it does briefly sketch a way I think that we can move forward, which is to ditch this silly abstract talk about free speech absolutism.

02:15:44.000 academic freedom, whatever, and start talking about real substantive moral visions that necessarily will include certain ideas and exclude other ideas.

02:15:54.000 We need to take what the left is doing, which is immoral and unjust and wrong, and we need to do the just, right, good version of that because they wield political power much better than we do.

02:16:06.000 We'd love to have you back when it comes out.

02:16:07.000 Thank you.

02:16:08.000 We can promote it and hold it up and we can talk about all those ideas.

02:16:11.000 It'd be great.

02:16:11.000 It'd be great, thank you.

02:16:12.000 Right on.

02:16:13.000 You also have Twitter and Daily Wire.

02:16:15.000 Yes, that's true.

02:16:15.000 I was so focused on plugging the book.

02:16:17.000 I do, though.

02:16:17.000 You can find me on Twitter, for now, at Michael J. Knowles.

02:16:20.000 I do have my daily show at the Daily Wire, which is the Michael Knowles Show.

02:16:24.000 I also do a show at PragerU called The Book Club.

02:16:26.000 I also do a show with Senator Chad Cruz called Verdict, which is super fun.

02:16:30.000 And schedules are a little tough right now, but we're hopefully going to get some new episodes out really, really soon.

02:16:34.000 But you can catch all that, basically, at the Daily Wire.

02:16:37.000 But that's like one of the biggest podcasts in the world, I think.

02:16:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:16:41.000 I never thought, you know, especially for that first couple weeks.

02:16:45.000 I love Senator Cruz.

02:16:46.000 I really, really like and admire the guy.

02:16:47.000 I'm just saying, I never thought he could hit number one podcaster.

02:16:52.000 There's a lot of good podcasters out there, you know?

02:16:54.000 But I really love doing the show.

02:16:56.000 I think he's bringing so much of behind the curtains of what's really going on there.

02:17:00.000 So we got more episodes of that show coming up, too.

02:17:03.000 You can always follow me at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on all social media.

02:17:08.000 Michael, this was great.

02:17:08.000 Thank you guys.

02:17:09.000 First hour and a half just flew by, so I'm looking forward to talking more.

02:17:12.000 And I'm Sour Patch Lids in the corner.

02:17:14.000 I push buttons, that's my job.

02:17:15.000 You can follow me at Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.

02:17:19.000 Join me in my quest to have more followers than Sour Patch Kids.

02:17:23.000 We're gonna go over to TimCast.com, which should be up in maybe an hour or so, but I have a feeling this conversation might go a little long.

02:17:28.000 It's Friday night, and it's a really fun conversation.

02:17:30.000 These are the conversations I love more than anything else, is like the deeper question.

02:17:34.000 So, TimCast.com, and we'll see you all there.

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