Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Christie DROPS OUT, Caught On HOT MIC! Townhall w- Vivek Ramaswamy & Candace Owens

00:00:00.000 Welcome, everybody, to this special podcast town hall hybrid event.

00:00:11.000 We are here in Des Moines, Iowa.

00:00:12.000 It's going to be a whole lot of fun.

00:00:14.000 We got, we got big news in politics today.

00:00:16.000 Chris Christie has dropped out of the race and was caught on a hot mic.

00:00:20.000 So this story is pretty wild and we'll definitely talk about that because there is an interesting bit of information coming out.

00:00:27.000 Chris Christie said that Ron DeSantis gave him a phone call and was petrified that he was going to, and then he stops right there.

00:00:32.000 and someone else says to him that Ron may get out of the race after Iowa, which would

00:00:35.000 be really, really interesting considering there's so very few people left.

00:00:38.000 But today, we're going to go over some of the big stories in the news and in this country

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00:01:15.000 Also, become a member at TimCast.com because we are going to have a special members-only uncensored after the show VIP behind the scenes with none other than Vivek Ramaswamy, who is joining us today.

00:01:25.000 How's it going, man?

00:01:26.000 It's good to be here, man, with our live studio audience in Iowa.

00:01:29.000 Live studio audience.

00:01:30.000 We've got a bunch of people hanging out.

00:01:31.000 Love these guys.

00:01:33.000 I love my Iowans right now.

00:01:34.000 Now for the people who don't know you here, how would you introduce yourself?

00:01:38.000 I'm kidding, of course.

00:01:39.000 I think we've spent a lot of time here in Iowa, but Vivek.

00:01:42.000 People have really gotten their pronunciation down over the course of this campaign.

00:01:45.000 If there's one thing that we've gotten out of this campaign, people have really understood how to rhyme something with cake.

00:01:51.000 Yeah.

00:01:53.000 We have so many people on the show and we'll be like, it's Vivek.

00:01:56.000 And they'll go, oh yeah, sorry.

00:01:57.000 We also have Candace Owens hanging out. 1.00

00:01:58.000 Whoop whoop! Where's my applause?

00:02:00.000 What's up Candace?

00:02:01.000 I don't have a live studio applause.

00:02:03.000 You gotta get her up on the mic. 0.75

00:02:05.000 Can you hear me better now?

00:02:06.000 Oh yeah.

00:02:07.000 Yeah, Luke Rikowsky of course was already talking.

00:02:08.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

00:02:09.000 Welcome back!

00:02:10.000 Beautiful and amazing human beings of Iowa.

00:02:13.000 Let's hear it from the crowd here.

00:02:15.000 I think it's going to be a really awesome, incredible show.

00:02:17.000 The conversation definitely is going to be spicy, I think to say the least, with everyone here, as there's a lot of crazy things to talk about in 2024 that is already shaping up to be one hell of a year.

00:02:28.000 And I think it's fair to say it's only going to get crazier from here.

00:02:32.000 Yeah, man, deepfakes.

00:02:33.000 It's gonna be so wild, you guys.

00:02:35.000 This ride, is this a simulation?

00:02:37.000 Are we in some sort of crazy... Yes, is actually the answer.

00:02:40.000 Ian was intending to make the show as crazy as possible.

00:02:42.000 Let's go deep.

00:02:43.000 What's up, everybody?

00:02:44.000 Hello.

00:02:46.000 Looking good in the house.

00:02:47.000 So, the first thing I'd like to do, because this is a special episode, we're going to be talking about a lot of things pertaining to this election cycle, is, you know, I'm going to call out Vivek Ramaswamy right here in front of all of these big fans of yours, because you said in a CNN town hall that it's beginning to look, I'm paraphrasing, but it's beginning to look like January 6th was an inside job.

00:03:07.000 And I must call you out, sir, because I will tell you definitively, it was an inside job.

00:03:11.000 And, uh, the media, of course, criticize you for pushing conspiracy theories.

00:03:14.000 They're lying.

00:03:16.000 They, uh, I want to call the media specifically, first and foremost, a handful of media outlets, many of whom may actually be in the room today.

00:03:23.000 And so, uh, no disrespect to the individuals.

00:03:25.000 I know these people aren't the ones who wrote the stories.

00:03:27.000 That's right.

00:03:27.000 But I, I, the first thing I have for everybody is the definition of inside job from Oxford languages.

00:03:33.000 An inside job is defined as a crime committed by or with the assistance of a person living or working on the premises where it occurred.

00:03:43.000 That's simple, right?

00:03:43.000 Like, some guy robs a bank and a security guard opens the door to let him in.

00:03:47.000 That's the assistance.

00:03:48.000 That's an inside job.

00:03:48.000 How about that?

00:03:49.000 I also, just for good measure, got the definition from Merriam-Webster, just to be sure.

00:03:54.000 And it once again says something very similar.

00:03:55.000 Done by or with the help of someone in a position or within an organization or group.

00:03:59.000 So I got a question.

00:04:00.000 Let me go through these stories real quick.

00:04:02.000 So we have this from CNN, fact-checking Vivek Ramaswamy's CNN town hall, where they say a false claim that police rolled out the red carpet on January 6th.

00:04:11.000 They go on to say that you said it was an inside job.

00:04:14.000 They say facts first.

00:04:15.000 Ramaswamy's claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false.

00:04:19.000 About 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol, etc, etc.

00:04:23.000 This is a trick that many in media do where they will take a true statement, a fact, then try to apply it to a totally different set of facts.

00:04:32.000 Is it true that police officers were injured?

00:04:33.000 Yes, it is.

00:04:34.000 Is it also true that police opened the doors and fanned people in?

00:04:36.000 Yes, it is.

00:04:37.000 Here's a story from CNN.com that I will use to debunk CNN.com.

00:04:42.000 Man who said January 6th was magical acquitted in U.S.

00:04:45.000 Capitol riot case, where they say a federal judge on Wednesday found Matthew Martin not guilty of four federal misdemeanors related to trespassing.

00:04:52.000 Martin, who worked for a government contractor before his arrest following the riot, successfully argued that a U.S.

00:04:56.000 Capitol police officer waved him into the building.

00:04:59.000 At least one video played during the trial appeared to show an officer moving his arm in a waving motion.

00:05:04.000 Yes, CNN really doesn't want to admit it, but let's break down the facts here.

00:05:07.000 A judge determined a police officer made a waving motion, thus a man who entered the building felt he was invited, and thus there were no criminal charges to be had.

00:05:17.000 The case was dismissed.

00:05:18.000 If the police officer assisted that man, would that not be an inside job, according to Oxford?

00:05:23.000 Here's an article from CNN.

00:05:25.000 Joe Scarborough lambasted Capitol Police.

00:05:27.000 You opened the effing doors for them.

00:05:29.000 Going on to say that they politely opened the doors for terrorists who had scrawled and murdered the media.

00:05:34.000 If the police politely opened the doors, providing assistance to these people to come in, would that not be an inside job?

00:05:38.000 And how about this one from the New York Post?

00:05:40.000 January 6 footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon shaman to Senate floor.

00:05:45.000 So I have to just simply say, when we say something like it was an inside job, or it appears to be, they'll immediately respond by saying, what's your proof that the Biden administration did it?

00:05:57.000 Well, I never said that.

00:05:58.000 I said it was an inside job.

00:05:59.000 The Capitol Police were taking selfies with people.

00:06:01.000 In some instances, opened the doors and let people in.

00:06:03.000 I'm glad to have called out these news organizations, first and foremost.

00:06:07.000 NBC News, of course.

00:06:09.000 Vivek Ramaswamy promotes January 6th conspiracy theory by suggesting it was an inside job.

00:06:13.000 I think according to CNN's own reporting, as well as the Oxford definition we've here, definitively stated and proven it was an inside job.

00:06:20.000 My question is, if the people inside are under duress and they let the people outside in because they're afraid for their lives, is it still technically an inside job, or was it provoked by the crowd's, you know, fear, essence of fear?

00:06:32.000 It's a bit, I kind of lie with you that I think it is still technically, you know, neutrally an inside job.

00:06:37.000 You're also assuming that that was the case, right?

00:06:39.000 I mean, I think that's, even under that most charitable interpretation, Those aren't necessarily the same people.

00:06:44.000 You're talking about thousands of people.

00:06:45.000 So some people had some violent behavior outside.

00:06:47.000 Different people who show up at a door are allowed in in a friendly manner.

00:06:52.000 From the standpoint of the person who was allowed in, it doesn't matter what circumstance the police officer was under.

00:06:57.000 The question is, what do they believe the government is telling them?

00:07:00.000 So from the standpoint of that defendant, I'm a guy who walks up to the house of the people, wants to walk in, take my iPhone around.

00:07:07.000 You see many of those people?

00:07:08.000 Okay, probably the first time in the Capitol building.

00:07:10.000 And they were allowed in by a federal police officer, that of the Capitol Police.

00:07:15.000 Now, I find weeks or months or a year and a half later, I'm part of the largest manhunt in modern American history to be put into prison, in many cases charged.

00:07:25.000 Held without even being charged.

00:07:27.000 So I think at the level of the individual, this is what it comes down to.

00:07:31.000 It's not about finding what circumstance was or wasn't understandable for the government.

00:07:35.000 For somebody who's going to be locked up, we better darn well apply the highest standard of a burden of proof to say that's what we're going to apply before you lock you up.

00:07:43.000 And so the Capitol Police initially were sitting on a lot of that footage.

00:07:46.000 They said it sat with Congress.

00:07:48.000 So many of those defendants were charged.

00:07:51.000 Without getting access to that video footage.

00:07:54.000 And again, the justification they made was, you know, usually a prosecutor has to turn over exculpatory evidence to a defendant.

00:08:01.000 But here they didn't do it because they said Congress technically has the tapes and that's not the prosecutors of the DOJ.

00:08:07.000 Again, from the standpoint of an individual defendant, it doesn't matter.

00:08:10.000 It's the government that's coming after you to put you in prison.

00:08:14.000 And if the government's going to come after you to put you in prison, a couple basic things have to be true.

00:08:18.000 That government did not actually cause you or incite you to commit the crime.

00:08:23.000 And we're just talking about the Capitol Police dimension of this, let alone the FBI dimension.

00:08:27.000 And the other thing that has to be true is you have a chance to defend yourself with full exculpatory evidence, including the video footage of the circumstances of you being allowed into that very building you were allegedly trespassing in.

00:08:39.000 If neither of those things were the case, then I think that that's not a crime.

00:08:42.000 And anybody who has been convicted or pressured into a false plea deal under those circumstances will, on my watch, get a pardon on day one because that's the right thing to do to stand for the rule of law in this country.

00:08:55.000 Would you retry them with the new evidence?

00:08:58.000 I think that it would depend on the circumstances, but when you think about somebody who was, first of all, peacefully protesting that day and allowed in in those circumstances, there's something bigger going on here.

00:09:07.000 In that same year, we've applied a totally different standard of the rule of law to violent riots.

00:09:12.000 I'm not going to call them mostly peaceful protests.

00:09:14.000 It's a translation if you're decoding the media lingo on this one.

00:09:17.000 Mostly peaceful protest in the year 2020.

00:09:19.000 Frantifa or BLM refers to violent riots.

00:09:22.000 Against the backdrop of a year where there were all kinds of peaceful to violent riots across this country.

00:09:28.000 And so against that backdrop, I believe especially what these people have been put through already.

00:09:34.000 This is years of hell that we've put citizens of this country through.

00:09:37.000 Anybody who was peaceful and did not physically assault somebody that day will get a day one pardon from me.

00:09:44.000 And then I'm going to go down the list, even of the people who allegedly, right, I don't believe anymore the government if they just said you're violent as an allegation.

00:09:51.000 Now let's get to the facts and go down the list.

00:09:54.000 Anybody else who had their constitutional rights denied during that process will also, in addition, get a pardon.

00:10:00.000 I can't commit to that on day one, but on day one I commit to start the process of going case by case.

00:10:06.000 And it's not even about those defendants individually, though that matters, of course, to me.

00:10:10.000 It's about the future of this country, because if we put ourselves in a position where they can go after political opponents for this reason, they can go after political opponents for any reason.

00:10:20.000 You got Julian Assange rotting in a foreign prison, while the person who leaked to Julian Assange is a woman by the name of Chelsea Manning, who effectively got her sentence commuted by President Obama because she's transgender.

00:10:31.000 I actually have increasingly concluded she's probably not even transgender, she's probably just smart, knowing that that's how you have to identify to be a member of a politically favorable class.

00:10:40.000 And so the two standards of the rule of law are really what irk me the most.

00:10:44.000 And so this isn't just for the people who are there on January 6th, it's for the rest of us in this country as well.

00:10:49.000 And so I don't think retrial for most of those cases is the right answer.

00:10:52.000 If you're a peaceful protester on January 6th, you were truly peaceful and you were convicted or forced to plead or coerced to plead under false pretenses, you will get a pardon on day one when I'm in office.

00:11:02.000 I want to bring up real quick just to highlight again what CNN said in their article fact-checking you when they said about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol.

00:11:14.000 It's not shocking that almost every single news story that we hear about January 6th involves those who are acting violently.

00:11:22.000 But I think perhaps one thing that we can do better, especially, you know, we've got scanner.com, stnr.com, we have a news team, is focus on those who are peaceful, non-violent, and shut up after the fact.

00:11:32.000 I met a woman at a restaurant, and this is in the Maryland area.

00:11:36.000 She went down to D.C.

00:11:37.000 with her husband.

00:11:38.000 This is the story she told me.

00:11:40.000 She showed up an hour and a half or so after the rioting had already concluded and people were actually leaving.

00:11:46.000 She walks up to the Capitol building with open sidewalks, there's people standing on the grass talking, there's people walking around, the doors are wide open.

00:11:53.000 Her and her husband walk up, see people and the police standing there, walk on in, she said she was in for a few minutes.

00:12:01.000 Asked what was going on, they said nothing much and said okay and she left.

00:12:04.000 She was sentenced to 18 months in jail.

00:12:07.000 The court did not care that she was nonviolent, that she was just a tourist who went to see Donald Trump speak, was unaware of any barricades.

00:12:15.000 I think the issue is, especially for the corporate press, those stories aren't newsworthy for them.

00:12:20.000 They're not going to get clicks.

00:12:22.000 If you take a look at how CNN reported the acquittal of Matthew Martin, They still just don't want to admit that a police officer waved a man into the building and a judge agreed he was welcomed in.

00:12:34.000 They still try and make it seem like it's all a misunderstanding and the cop wasn't waving him in.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, and you know what, the corporate press piece is interesting of this because some of the people who are now, they're not going after, there were members of the press that day.

00:12:45.000 In the field, covering it as members of the press.

00:12:47.000 But if they're part of the corporate press, somehow that was immune from investigation.

00:12:50.000 You have independent journalists who are actually documenting what was happening, are the ones that the Justice Department's now going after.

00:12:56.000 You've got the likes of Owen Schroer, who was actually yelling, as best I know, didn't even go in the Capitol, was on a megaphone yelling 1776.

00:13:01.000 How do you think that was a crime in this country?

00:13:05.000 But apparently that was, by definition.

00:13:07.000 And he ended up spending time actually, unfortunately, under prosecution and under conviction.

00:13:12.000 So I think it's a violation of the rule of law.

00:13:15.000 I also think you haven't even gotten to the spicy stuff.

00:13:17.000 But first of all, I want to say one thing.

00:13:19.000 I'm glad that CNN, you know, at least took the approach they did.

00:13:21.000 Otherwise, we wouldn't be here doing this, actually.

00:13:23.000 Probably.

00:13:24.000 You know, CNN, I did a town hall here in Iowa about About maybe a month and a half ago, where we started to talk to this woman, Abby Phillips, who was moderating the town hall.

00:13:35.000 They literally cut it off five minutes early.

00:13:38.000 Like it was supposed to be, there was a full time, there was a full run of show.

00:13:41.000 By the time I start talking about January 6th, and there's only a few third rails that you really can't touch.

00:13:45.000 But for whatever reason, this is one of them.

00:13:47.000 They end the whole thing five minutes early, trot out a bunch of different experts explaining to their audience why everything they just heard was misinformation and needed to be debunked as dangerous for the future.

00:13:57.000 And then that's when they start calling us and, you know, they actually, on YouTube, funny thing is, they threatened us with a cease and desist for putting up that town hall while Nikki Haley still sat up there for six months.

00:14:08.000 I think part of it is, Tim, it's not just that it's less spicy for less clicks.

00:14:13.000 I think there's something deeper and more ideological definitely going on here that they believe it is their responsibility to make sure the public does not hear what, in this case, hear the facts of what happened, but even in other cases viewpoints that are alternative to their own.

00:14:26.000 I do think that's an important part of what's going on at the highest levels of these organizations.

00:14:29.000 Well this is the thing we don't know a lot of the facts.

00:14:32.000 How many FBI agents played a role in what happened?

00:14:35.000 How many undercover police officers or other federal agencies participated in this event?

00:14:40.000 Why did it take so long to respond?

00:14:42.000 What just happened to Ray Epps and how was he able to get that kind of deal?

00:14:46.000 When there's so many people rotting away in solitary confinement right now.

00:14:50.000 And you don't even have to go as far as to say it was an inside job or it wasn't an inside job.

00:14:54.000 The burden of proof is on the government.

00:14:57.000 The people have questions.

00:14:58.000 We should demand answers.

00:15:00.000 And I think we need a full investigation, not just of that event, but the entire FBI.

00:15:06.000 From its inception, they have been doing illegal, horrible things to the American public.

00:15:11.000 Lying, spying, destroying people's personal lives.

00:15:14.000 Blackmailing individuals including MLK and more importantly when you look at what happened specifically in 2001 in New York City the FBI also played a major role in that incident that they were never held accountable for.

00:15:28.000 We need a full investigation into the FBI.

00:15:30.000 Would that be something that you would support?

00:15:32.000 Yes, but I think I have Gain enough of an understanding of the FBI such that I can confidently say the correct answer is not to give them some new building or anything else.

00:15:42.000 It is not to replace Christopher Wray, which is just a fake mirage.

00:15:46.000 Get Christopher Wray out, you get James Comey 2.0.

00:15:50.000 I'm convinced the right answer is to shut down the failed Bureau of Investigation, the FBI.

00:15:54.000 That's the only answer that remains.

00:15:59.000 You know, playing almost nicer with respect to the facts that we do have.

00:16:03.000 As I said, you know, I agree that it appears to be an inside job, but we don't really know the full extent of what happened.

00:16:09.000 I will say, though, it's interesting.

00:16:11.000 I don't know if you guys have talked about this in the show before.

00:16:13.000 I've kind of gone deep on this because I think it's important, not just for this incident, but for the future of the country.

00:16:19.000 You know who the Detroit field office head was at the time of the alleged Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot?

00:16:25.000 Is this something you've talked about before or not really?

00:16:27.000 I've talked about it extensively.

00:16:29.000 This is important though to understand the nexus.

00:16:32.000 It's kind of an underbelly in our law enforcement.

00:16:35.000 So the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot actually began as a plot to storm the Capitol in the state of Michigan.

00:16:42.000 And you know how it started?

00:16:44.000 It started with people at the FBI putting people up to this.

00:16:47.000 Poor guys.

00:16:47.000 One of them was actually supposedly getting hot water from a Mexican restaurant across the street.

00:16:51.000 These are people who are not doing well in their life, who they've put up and cultivated with $5,000 credit cards with $5,000 limits to go buy munitions and otherwise, to initially what began as a plot to storm the Capitol, but eventually ended up being a plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.

00:17:05.000 A good number of the people who were captured here, like we're talking about a high proportion of them, were absolutely federal informants.

00:17:11.000 And yet, the Detroit field office head, and they took that all the way to trial, several of the people at trial were acquitted on grounds of entrapment.

00:17:21.000 One of the jurors at the end went to one of the defendants, just gave him a hug, and apologized for what he had been through, because the juror actually had to see what the FBI put these people up to.

00:17:30.000 And you can't make this stuff up.

00:17:31.000 In October of 2020, three months before January of 2021, Guess who gets a promotion to be the D.C.

00:17:38.000 field office head?

00:17:39.000 Was none other than that Detroit field office head.

00:17:42.000 And what do you have on January 6, 2021, three months later, is a storming of the U.S.

00:17:46.000 Capitol.

00:17:47.000 So there's a lot here that suggests, I mean, the D.C.

00:17:50.000 pipe bomb story at the DNC and the RNC headquarters.

00:17:52.000 Why haven't we heard the first thing about what we actually know, despite the existence of video footage about that?

00:17:58.000 Careful coincidence of exactly when that pipe bomb at the RNC headquarters happened to have been discovered, with the timer on it down to the time where the actual vote was supposed to be cast for certifying the results of the election.

00:18:10.000 It's just an impossibility.

00:18:11.000 That was the number one thing for me.

00:18:12.000 I mean, the day after, I'm sorry to cut you off, but the day after January 6th, I was like, this is...

00:18:18.000 It's complete setup by the FBI.

00:18:19.000 I mean if you mean to tell me that I was living in Washington DC at the time a couple of blocks away from the White House when January 6th happened.

00:18:26.000 It was a very bizarre day because we had an entire summer of people rioting.

00:18:31.000 It was scary to go outside.

00:18:32.000 I was pregnant at the time.

00:18:34.000 Cars set on fire.

00:18:35.000 Every day there was a crazy protest, people storming buildings at all times.

00:18:39.000 Suddenly, after the Summer of Love BLM, we were getting phone calls, people asking if we were okay after January 6th, when there wasn't any sounds outside of where I lived.

00:18:48.000 If you mean to tell me that in Washington DC, where you can't walk two feet, it is the most surveilled building in the world, okay, that a couple of blocks away from the White House, they can't figure out where their, again, cameras on every single corner, every inch, Who got out of their car, placed pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC headquarters and went away.

00:19:07.000 And let me tell you how extensive their search was.

00:19:09.000 This is something that people are not talking about because you're talking about people that stood trial.

00:19:12.000 And of course, that's the most important people that are being locked up, people that have committed suicide.

00:19:16.000 Let's not forget to talk about people that have killed themselves for fear of being locked up because they showed up to support the sitting president of the United States.

00:19:24.000 I have two friends from Stanford, Connecticut, who showed up to hear Donald Trump speak and went home.

00:19:30.000 Okay?

00:19:31.000 That was it.

00:19:31.000 They'd never went into the Capitol building.

00:19:32.000 Nothing.

00:19:33.000 After the speech, they didn't go up.

00:19:35.000 FBI agents showed up at their house.

00:19:37.000 This was a harassment and intimidation campaign that took place.

00:19:40.000 If you even showed up to support President Trump, they got questioned.

00:19:44.000 They got questioned.

00:19:45.000 They found a picture of them on Facebook with a MAGA flag.

00:19:49.000 They heard Trump speak and they went home.

00:19:51.000 And these people were questioned by the feds.

00:19:54.000 So they had enough resources, right, to send them out and hunt down people that were posting pictures, but they can't find out who just tried to blow up headquarters in Washington, D.C.

00:20:06.000 a couple of blocks away from the White House.

00:20:07.000 And you want to know what the weirdest part about this is?

00:20:09.000 And I'm just, as I go deeper, learning facts about this.

00:20:12.000 Kamala Harris, the number two, for better or worse, to succeed the U.S. 1.00

00:20:17.000 president, was at the DNC headquarters that morning.

00:20:22.000 With all coming level of security there that understand then suddenly the randomly they just see it in a park bench later.

00:20:27.000 So I think there's enough facts here to know the government has not been transparent with us.

00:20:32.000 But furthermore, we know Capitol Police officer let him in.

00:20:34.000 We know that the video footage was success was selectively released such that you did not see shooting rubber bullets and tear gas into the mostly peaceful crowd.

00:20:45.000 You saw the reaction of those people.

00:20:47.000 Well, I have a question for you.

00:20:49.000 releasing that. And then you did not see initially Capitol Police officers

00:20:53.000 allowing people in peacefully. It's a distortion and we just

00:20:57.000 deserve the truth. Well I have a question for you. So I've often talked

00:21:01.000 about the May 29th insurrection. May 29th 2020. Thousands of far-left extremists

00:21:07.000 stormed the barricades of the White House, fought with hundreds if not

00:21:10.000 several hundred police officers, injuring around between 70 and 140.

00:21:15.000 They firebombed the White House grounds.

00:21:17.000 That's true.

00:21:17.000 They set fire to a guard tower, and they set fire to St.

00:21:21.000 John's Church.

00:21:21.000 This is a historical church the Founding Fathers would go to.

00:21:24.000 It was so severe that the President was forced into his emergency bunker, thus disrupting his official duties.

00:21:30.000 Only.

00:21:31.000 Yes.

00:21:32.000 Wow.

00:21:32.000 And my question is, why, where was our commission?

00:21:36.000 Where, where was the, I mean, the photos of that day?

00:21:41.000 When I, you know, I go to family gatherings over the holidays and I show a photo of an aerial shot of DC, which many of you may have seen, smoke rising out all around the White House and the surrounding areas from fires that were being lit.

00:21:52.000 The president was forced into an emergency bunker against his will, and the media made fun of him and called him Bunker Boy for having had to experience this.

00:22:00.000 Donald Trump said, I went down, they showed me, and he clearly didn't want to be there.

00:22:04.000 When law enforcement then cleared out the extremists who had laid siege to the White House, I'm being purposefully hyperbolic, you understand why.

00:22:12.000 Donald Trump came out the next day and took a picture, and they attacked him and insulted him for having defended the White House and a church that was set on fire by an extremist faction.

00:22:22.000 A faction so extreme, in fact, that similar groups and cells within the same ideology had seized several blocks in various cities.

00:22:31.000 In Atlanta, in Seattle in their Capitol Hill occupation, and in Minnesota with George Floyd Square.

00:22:37.000 Videos emerged out of, I believe it was Seattle, of armed groups walking around with AR-15s pointing them at drivers.

00:22:43.000 People of a similar or same ideology, in fact many of these people do coordinate, engaged in insurrection.

00:22:48.000 Now, of course, we can calm down and say a bunch of extremist activists riding in the streets, no insurrection.

00:22:55.000 Fair point.

00:22:55.000 Then neither was the Capitol.

00:22:56.000 Well, what about Brett Kavanaugh?

00:22:57.000 Was anybody alive for the Brett Kavanaugh hearings?

00:23:00.000 Do you remember them storming in, going into senators' offices?

00:23:03.000 I mean, I'm telling you, D.C.

00:23:05.000 was insane, and nobody cared until January 6th happened.

00:23:09.000 This was like a routine thing that was happening to get their ideas across.

00:23:12.000 They were doing sit-ins, they were walking in the halls uninvited, they couldn't get

00:23:16.000 these people out.

00:23:17.000 I mean, it's just crazy to think that suddenly they focused on January 6th and it's hard

00:23:22.000 to imagine that the feds were not in on it when we know we have all of these pieces of

00:23:27.000 footage.

00:23:28.000 At the very least.

00:23:30.000 One thing, because I think there's two strands here.

00:23:32.000 I think there's two different points of both that are interesting, but I think it's important not to mix them up because it might risk us missing the real plot here.

00:23:43.000 One is, have we applied the different standard of rule of law throughout this country over the course of 2020?

00:23:48.000 Absolutely we did.

00:23:49.000 Antifa, BLM, you name it.

00:23:50.000 If you have a left-wing ideology that was mostly peaceful protest, you ignore it.

00:23:55.000 glaring point and deserves to be called out. 0.50

00:23:58.000 And I think that there can be no justice with two standards of the rule of law based on your political ideology.

00:24:04.000 I think to be clear, what happened on January 6 was not some small joke.

00:24:08.000 This was significant in terms of the number of people in terms of some of the video footage of the mainstream media picked out.

00:24:15.000 But I think what's significant about it is we don't know what actually caused those people to act the way they did.

00:24:22.000 Was it really the government instigating something that otherwise didn't exist, using it as a deflection to achieve a national security state's revival that had otherwise receded over the course of 20 years since the post 9-11 period?

00:24:34.000 And so maybe I've just told you what I actually think is going on here.

00:24:37.000 But that's what I think the facts suggest is there was A reason for these people to not only get Donald Trump out of office, but to discredit this, to relegate this line of thinking, the movement behind him, to the dustbins of history.

00:24:50.000 And this was the way to do it.

00:24:52.000 So I think that there was a lot of depth to this.

00:24:54.000 And it wasn't just that, okay, well, like this was, I mean, these are two different standards, two different bad things.

00:24:59.000 Yes.

00:24:59.000 But this was, I think, a very serious forethought.

00:25:04.000 I'd like to jump to some breaking news from today, and then we'll get into some core issues that are happening.

00:25:18.000 We've got stories on immigration.

00:25:20.000 There was a school in New York that they told the kids to go remote.

00:25:23.000 You can't use the school anymore because illegal immigrants are coming in. 1.00

00:25:25.000 We have a breaking story from James O'Keefe, where he actually tracked down buses engaged in human trafficking.

00:25:31.000 There's no way to get it to play on the speakers?

00:25:32.000 Not right now.

00:25:33.000 From our good friends at the New York Times, Christy caught on hot mic disparaging Haley and DeSantis. 0.99

00:25:39.000 Now, the interesting thing here is of course that he dropped out,

00:25:42.000 but we also have this hot mic moment I want to play and get your thoughts on.

00:25:46.000 Hopefully this... Will this play properly? I mean, I hope so.

00:25:49.000 Let's play it.

00:25:51.000 I can hear it down here. Is there a way to get it to play on the speakers?

00:25:54.000 There is no way to get it to play on the speakers?

00:25:57.000 Not right now.

00:25:59.000 I can't even hear it on the headphones.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, we're going to have to.

00:26:02.000 OK, well, we can't play it, unfortunately.

00:26:04.000 We know what he said.

00:26:05.000 Yeah, I've heard it.

00:26:06.000 We've all heard it.

00:26:07.000 So, I want to clarify some things because in the tweet that went, that started getting a lot of play, it's got half a million so far, it says, Chris Christie says Nikki Haley is quote, gonna get smoked and you and I both know it, she's not up to this.

00:26:20.000 In regards to Trump, Christie says Ron DeSantis called him up petrified.

00:26:24.000 Now what Christie says is, Ron called me petrified that I was gonna, or something like that, and then cuts off.

00:26:30.000 Someone else that intervenes and says he's probably getting out after Iowa.

00:26:35.000 I personally do not believe Ron drops out after Iowa, but I'm curious.

00:26:40.000 There's a few things.

00:26:40.000 Candace, you actually made a really good point about this if you want to.

00:26:43.000 So when I was sitting down, and I think I actually said this on my podcast, but during the first Republican debates, the energy going into it was essentially that DeSantis was going to have to come out and say stuff against Vivek, obviously, because Vivek was having a surge in the polls.

00:26:58.000 And interestingly enough, he didn't say anything to Vivek, but then suddenly Chris Christie just went like an attack dog. 0.99

00:27:03.000 And I just thought it was really odd.

00:27:05.000 I was like, this feels strangely coordinated to me.

00:27:07.000 I feel like Chris Christie and Ron DeSantis are maybe friends, and they're all friends,

00:27:11.000 and they all know that this is the guy they have to attack.

00:27:13.000 I felt this.

00:27:14.000 I said this in my podcast, and then I thought it was really interesting that DeSantis called

00:27:18.000 him petrified about whatever it is.

00:27:19.000 I just thought to myself, why is DeSantis calling Chris Christie at all?

00:27:22.000 Do they have a relationship?

00:27:23.000 Again, these are just questions.

00:27:25.000 We probably are not going to get the answer to them, as they're already working on a spin

00:27:29.000 and saying that DeSantis was just calling to bid him farewell from the race or something.

00:27:34.000 Petrified.

00:27:35.000 DeSantis was petrified that Christie would do something.

00:27:38.000 We don't know what he was going to do, but that's according to Chris Christie.

00:27:40.000 I'm curious as to why they were in conversation at all, and why DeSantis would express to

00:27:44.000 him his fear over something Christie might do.

00:27:47.000 I haven't talked to either today, I can tell you that.

00:27:52.000 I think that there's something deeper going on, and this is today a footnote.

00:27:58.000 It's a footnote, but a footnote in the deeper game that's hiding in plain sight.

00:28:01.000 I think, Ian, you said, oh, is this all just one giant deepfake?

00:28:05.000 I actually think it is, actually.

00:28:07.000 I think we're witnessing a deepfake in real time, and the deepfake is this.

00:28:11.000 And the people who are the subjects to it, I think every one of the people who is a subject to it, for better or worse, is falling for the deepfake, which is that this system, The system has made a decision, the same one that they thought they were making back when Donald Trump was exiting office.

00:28:27.000 OK, they didn't get it right that time around to make a decision that this man shall not be allowed anywhere near the White House again, period.

00:28:33.000 They will stop at nothing.

00:28:35.000 And at this point, I really mean nothing.

00:28:38.000 To keep this man out of the White House.

00:28:40.000 So what are they trying to do?

00:28:41.000 I was trying to figure out for a long time.

00:28:42.000 It didn't feel like it was going to be a Trump versus Biden race.

00:28:44.000 There's a lot with Biden.

00:28:46.000 You got the documents case coming out.

00:28:47.000 Why are they trotting that against Biden after like 10 years?

00:28:50.000 Hunter Biden.

00:28:51.000 OK, we could have talked about it now.

00:28:52.000 Suddenly it's gaining credibility.

00:28:54.000 Didn't feel like it was going to be Biden.

00:28:55.000 So I think incorrectly assumed that it was going to be Gavin Newsom or somebody else.

00:28:58.000 This is the new puppet.

00:29:00.000 Other than Biden, they want to trot out.

00:29:02.000 And I think what became increasingly clear is that they've actually found a much more convenient new puppet.

00:29:08.000 A puppet who actually can give them a lot of air cover by being within the Republican Party or the guys of the Republican Party itself.

00:29:13.000 And that's Nikki Haley, of course.

00:29:15.000 The very people who are paying to keep Trump off the ballot in lawsuits, like Reid Hoffman, the founder of LinkedIn, or even Larry Fink, the king of the woke industrial complex, the leader of BlackRock.

00:29:26.000 Look at who they're supporting.

00:29:27.000 It's not Gavin Newsom.

00:29:27.000 It's not Joe Biden.

00:29:29.000 It's Nikki Haley, actually.

00:29:31.000 And so what they want to do, to put it in plain sight, is to make this a two-horse race between Donald Trump and a puppet who they can control.

00:29:39.000 I believe that's Nikki Haley.

00:29:41.000 Eliminate Trump from contention.

00:29:43.000 And then trot in their controllable puppet into the White House.

00:29:46.000 That's the game that's hiding in plain sight, and I think everybody's falling for it, actually.

00:29:50.000 I don't think they're falling for it.

00:29:51.000 I think it's very—it's odd.

00:29:52.000 Every time we look at the polls or the news organizations, they keep telling us Nikki is surging, and it's so obvious if you speak to people that she's not.

00:30:00.000 After every single debate, they're like, Nikki won, Nikki won.

00:30:03.000 Even when it's so—she's not even third place in terms of who won, and they're trying to convince us.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:08.000 a full propaganda effort when it comes to Nikki Haley and you're right.

00:30:11.000 I think the part they're falling for...

00:30:12.000 It's pretty sinister what they're doing but the people I don't think are falling for it.

00:30:16.000 The only part that I'm worried the people are falling for is some idea that this system is

00:30:20.000 literally going to somehow stop short of literally stopping at nothing to keep Donald

00:30:26.000 You think is it Trump or is it what he represents, the methodologies that he's using, like canceling the Trans-Pacific Partnership kind of isolationist mentality?

00:30:35.000 I think the third rails there are definitely foreign policy.

00:30:38.000 I think ending the war in Ukraine on the terms that either I or Trump have suggested definitely hits the third rail.

00:30:43.000 I think the preservation of the national security state is a third rail.

00:30:46.000 Those are the two big ones.

00:30:47.000 The preservation of the national security bureaucracy at home.

00:30:49.000 You talk about the anti-woke stuff, the transgender stuff. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Yeah, I mean, they do have disagreements on a partisan basis, but that's all fine.

00:30:55.000 It's mostly a deflection, actually.

00:30:56.000 It's almost a convenient fact that Nikki Haley occasionally gets to say things that pay homage to the anti-woke movement.

00:31:01.000 I don't think she has actual beliefs, but at least it's part of the cover.

00:31:05.000 The real third rails are foreign policy.

00:31:07.000 Keep the interventionist, neoliberal, neoconservative worldview of the U.S.

00:31:10.000 as the hegemon that actually gets people to cut in on the rake here at home, the likes of the John Boltons and the Nikki Haley's.

00:31:16.000 And then third rail is the national security state at home.

00:31:19.000 But I think in Donald Trump's case, I think that they've convinced themselves that with this man in particular, he is so dangerous to the future, he's demonstrated himself to be, their words, you know, their view, not mine, that they have to and have a moral duty to this country.

00:31:35.000 And when you believe you have a moral duty to do something, Then you're bound by your more subordinate moral constraints.

00:31:40.000 Because there's the everyday moral norms you operate against.

00:31:42.000 But if you think it's about the future existence of humanity or a nation, then those ordinary constraints no longer apply.

00:31:50.000 And I think that's the mode this system is now in.

00:31:52.000 Ordinary constraints are, okay, you let people on a ballot.

00:31:54.000 Not anymore.

00:31:55.000 You don't prosecute people for made-up crimes, especially in the middle of a presidential election.

00:31:59.000 Not anymore.

00:32:00.000 And if they've ratcheted up each of those times and none of those things work, I just think eventually they're just going to stop at nothing, whatever it takes to take Trump out after they've narrowed it down to a two-horse race between Trump and Haley, which in turn is why I'm in this till the very end.

00:32:13.000 And I think that we have a responsibility to this country To make sure that that plot doesn't play out.

00:32:21.000 They're selling us the rope today that they'll use to hang us tomorrow.

00:32:25.000 That's what's happening.

00:32:26.000 And I don't want people in our movement to fall for the other part of this, to somehow think that that actually isn't going to be successfully executed.

00:32:34.000 This, uh, this hot mic moment where someone mutters Ron's probably getting out after Iowa.

00:32:40.000 Let's imagine the scenario that Ron actually decides, for whatever happens in Iowa, his showing wasn't good enough and it's time to end this race.

00:32:46.000 The worst possible thing imaginable would be you then leaving the race as well, because it would by default give us either Trump or Haley.

00:32:53.000 And I'm definitely not, exactly, for that reason.

00:32:55.000 That's a nightmare scenario.

00:32:56.000 But look, I have my own views.

00:32:58.000 I think we're going to deliver a major surprise here in Iowa.

00:33:01.000 We can talk about that separately.

00:33:02.000 I think we're going to shock the system, and the vibes on the ground are very good.

00:33:05.000 But as part of the 50,000-foot view here, I actually think if you play this out intuitively, it feels like the next step in the game among the corporate candidates is Ron would make a good vice president for Nikki, right?

00:33:17.000 Christy, out of the way, is one footnote today.

00:33:19.000 All right, eliminate part of the consolidation in New Hampshire.

00:33:22.000 Christy is not running for President of the United States ever.

00:33:24.000 He was arguably running for, like, Vice President of New Hampshire.

00:33:26.000 But anyway, once he exited, we'll actually combine that in to prop up Nikki a little bit more.

00:33:31.000 The next thing is you take the Ron DeSantis.

00:33:33.000 Ron DeSantis is not in New Hampshire so much, but in certain other states, Florida or otherwise.

00:33:37.000 Turn that over, as well, to the anti-Trump movement.

00:33:41.000 I don't think Ron knows that.

00:33:42.000 I think if people asked Ron DeSantis, he would say, of course I would not be Nikki's vice president.

00:33:46.000 And I think inside him, he probably would believe that that's actually what he thinks.

00:33:50.000 But that almost pretends that what he thinks actually matters.

00:33:54.000 His donors are the ones that put him up to run for president in the first place.

00:33:56.000 I don't think the man on his own volition.

00:33:57.000 I think there are other people who put him up to run for president at a time where it didn't make sense for him to do it.

00:34:02.000 The same people are going to put him up to be Nikki's vice president.

00:34:04.000 So you play this forward, that's where this goes.

00:34:07.000 Final step, take Trump out of contention, trot the corporate puppets into office.

00:34:11.000 That's where this plot ends.

00:34:12.000 And I feel like I see this with a level of clarity.

00:34:15.000 That makes it torturous.

00:34:17.000 It's like a kind of form of torture to watch this playing out in real time without standing up and actually doing something about it.

00:34:22.000 Let me, real quick, just to get it in there.

00:34:25.000 Scenario.

00:34:26.000 Donald Trump wins the primary.

00:34:28.000 He comes right on out and says, Vivek Ramaswamy, you are my vice president.

00:34:31.000 What do you say?

00:34:32.000 Donald Trump wins the, you're saying, Donald Trump wins the primary and then that.

00:34:35.000 So I think we just have to have an honest conversation.

00:34:37.000 I mean, if that's the scenario we're in.

00:34:39.000 That's not what I'm playing for, but if that's what we're in.

00:34:42.000 I have an inconvenient attribute, which is that I have opinions.

00:34:46.000 I have strong opinions about things.

00:34:47.000 I'm not somebody who really, you know, rolls over or whatever.

00:34:50.000 But what I've said is Donald Trump has my full support if he's the nominee.

00:34:53.000 And I expect his full support if I'm the nominee.

00:34:57.000 But I don't think we get to that place.

00:34:59.000 That's the whole premise of, I mean, when you think it's Gavin Newsom or Joe Biden as the puppet, you think you might get to that place.

00:35:05.000 I don't think they want Biden or Newsom.

00:35:07.000 I think Nikki is a far more reliable pawn for the system with respect to the two things they care about most, which is keeping the foreign war machine humming far more reliable on places from the Middle East to Ukraine.

00:35:18.000 She's far more hawkish than actually anybody in the Democratic side.

00:35:22.000 And with respect to the national security state, I don't think Joe Biden could have come up with the idea if he tried to tie every social media account and internet account with a government-issued ID.

00:35:30.000 So I don't think it goes there, Tim.

00:35:32.000 I think where it goes is they want this laid in the primary, and then they get the air cover because the Democratic The party's brand isn't doing too hot.

00:35:39.000 The permanent state is fundamentally nonpartisan at its core.

00:35:42.000 So they get the air cover of saying, oh yeah, we weren't even doing the Democrat game where most of the Republican base watching cable news thinks it's about beating Biden, they're missing the plot.

00:35:51.000 That's what's going on.

00:35:52.000 That's actually a really great point.

00:35:53.000 We were talking just the other day, there was a story, a JP Morgan top strategist, I'm sure you heard, said his prediction is that Joe Biden drops out just after Super Tuesday due to a health issue.

00:36:03.000 I view that as a very, very good strategy for Democrats.

00:36:06.000 I had been saying for some time that I believe Joe Biden will drop out.

00:36:08.000 His health is just not there.

00:36:09.000 His polling is not there.

00:36:11.000 It is political suicide.

00:36:13.000 However, many people pointed out in our chats and in our audience that it's too late to have a primary.

00:36:18.000 There's nothing they can do.

00:36:20.000 Actually, that sounds like the best play.

00:36:22.000 Joe Biden says, I'm running.

00:36:23.000 No primary to be had.

00:36:24.000 Don't worry about it.

00:36:25.000 Come March, he says, oh no, my ailing heart.

00:36:27.000 This gives the DNC the ability to just appoint who is going to be their nominee.

00:36:32.000 However, I think you actually make a much better point.

00:36:35.000 Why even worry about going into a political conflict with Donald Trump and the populist Republican base when you can win from within?

00:36:44.000 Exactly.

00:36:45.000 And that's exactly what's going on.

00:36:46.000 And also, they have this ailing Kamala Harris problem, because if anything other than Kamala Harris is the nominee, then they got the racist, misogynist thing going on, which undermines their own self-stated narrative.

00:36:57.000 And I think just the brand of the Democratic Party for the Larry Finkster, the establishment puppet masters of the world, it's a little tarnished right now.

00:37:04.000 Let them heal themselves.

00:37:04.000 We're going to do this within the Republican Party with a much more reliable vessel, with a little bit more of a polished exterior, a little bit more committed on the pro-war agenda, and a lot more committed on the censorship and national security agenda here at home.

00:37:16.000 I think that actually gets their job done much better without some of the inconveniences that come with Biden.

00:37:21.000 So like you, I was initially of the mind that, you know, who are they going to trot out instead of Biden?

00:37:27.000 And nothing quite really, the shoe didn't really fit with any of them.

00:37:30.000 Michelle Obama, Gavin Newsom.

00:37:32.000 And then you see, it's just staring in plain sight.

00:37:34.000 They're already halfway through doing it within the Republican primary.

00:37:36.000 And then it's game over and they get the air cover of saying they weren't even propping up Democrats.

00:37:39.000 That's what's going on.

00:37:40.000 Let's jump to some stories on some key issues.

00:37:42.000 I have this tweet from James O'Keefe.

00:37:45.000 This video was pretty shocking to watch.

00:37:48.000 There have been reports about buses that have been trafficking illegal immigrants.

00:37:51.000 In fact, I can say this as well.

00:37:53.000 I have personally confirmed the existence of major airline boarding passes that state no name given.

00:37:59.000 This story was broken by Ashley St.

00:38:02.000 Clair.

00:38:03.000 We're still waiting on vetting and development.

00:38:05.000 So by all means, anyone in the press who wants to doubt this story, feel free to do so.

00:38:09.000 But I will put my reputation on the line and say I have reviewed the materials.

00:38:12.000 It's more than just a boarding pass saying no name given.

00:38:15.000 We've had our own employees at Timcast witness on these flights, doing these events, planes full of illegal immigrants carrying these bags with instructions. 1.00

00:38:25.000 They don't speak English.

00:38:26.000 Someone is doing this.

00:38:27.000 And it may be not just, we know the Biden administration has been facilitating much of this.

00:38:32.000 We know this because back in 2021, there was a report about migrant children, illegal immigrant children being smuggled on flights in the late hours or the early hours of the morning into places like Tennessee and Westchester.

00:38:44.000 And from those stories, and from the expansion of them, so we know that exists, we also know that yes, Greg Abbott and other governors have been sending illegal immigrants deeper into the country in various places.

00:38:56.000 The question is, why is this happening?

00:38:57.000 Why isn't our border being secured?

00:39:01.000 Why is it that when James O'Keefe, and this video, it's crazy, they follow a bus carrying these illegal immigrants, the bus tries to hit them, The bus tries fleeing and swerving through the road, going on and off exits, trying to lose them because journalists are following them, and then actually stops and does not release its passengers and then leaves again.

00:39:24.000 Something about what they're doing has them scared.

00:39:27.000 Someone will find out they're doing it.

00:39:29.000 But I'll give you one quick story that happened to me personally.

00:39:31.000 Outside of this, you know, Ashley St.

00:39:32.000 Clair showed me the materials.

00:39:34.000 It's a boarding pass that says no name given.

00:39:36.000 Do you want to board a major airliner with people?

00:39:40.000 Our security RTSA has no idea who these people are, where they come from.

00:39:44.000 I was in Chicago over the holiday.

00:39:46.000 We flew on a private jet.

00:39:47.000 How about that?

00:39:48.000 It's really fun, isn't it?

00:39:49.000 And our shuttle bus driver said, the other day, a 737 came in, and we were told by our bosses that it was the Blackhawks.

00:39:57.000 How fun is that?

00:39:58.000 Oh, you're going to get to go service a plane, pull out the luggage for a famous hockey team.

00:40:02.000 He said when they pulled up to the plane and opened it up, there were three garbage bags in the Ford cargo hold.

00:40:08.000 That's it.

00:40:08.000 No luggage, nothing.

00:40:10.000 They then found out that the entire plane, 140 passengers, were illegal immigrants, and he said it was Swift Air.

00:40:16.000 I don't know.

00:40:16.000 That's what he told me.

00:40:18.000 I asked him.

00:40:19.000 Did they lie to you, claiming it was the Blackhawks, because you would not have served that plane had you known you'd be facilitating illegal immigration?

00:40:26.000 And you went, bingo.

00:40:27.000 Exactly.

00:40:29.000 So my question now is, with all of this news breaking, and this is a massive story, I'm interested in your view on what's going on.

00:40:35.000 I want to know how you plan to handle it, what you would do, and I also want to know your position on how do we handle the fact that there are federal law enforcement officers actually facilitating this?

00:40:45.000 Yeah, well, I think it's, again, One of these, when it comes to the media, third rail issues, when you name what's going on, so forget the labels, Great Replacement Theory, whatever, just forget the labels.

00:41:00.000 What's going on is, what's the most parsimonious explanation is, there is a facilitation of mass illegal migration into the United States to secure lasting electoral majorities for the Democratic Party.

00:41:13.000 And the reason, you know, that's not a conspiracy theory is it is a pre-stated strategy of Democrats dating back to about 10 years ago.

00:41:20.000 And it's not a surprise when you got Mallorca sitting by Joe Biden's side about 10 years ago, the guy who's actually running the Department of Homeland Security right now, who is in turn refusing to enforce the Remain in Mexico policies.

00:41:30.000 Yes, that's exactly what's going on and hiding in plain sight.

00:41:32.000 And the math makes sense, it works.

00:41:34.000 So now you have AOC coming in for cover in recent days, this was yesterday or the day before, saying that actually the right solution isn't building the wall, but to document the undocumented, which is the next step to them participating in those elections.

00:41:45.000 And so it's, if somebody tells you this is what I'd like to do, Then they take actions consistent with achieving what they'd like to do, and then consummate it by actually doing that very thing, in changing the composition of the electorate and translating into who actually ends up voting in elections.

00:42:01.000 You tend to believe that that's the most parsimonious explanation, not something else that we're otherwise struggling to figure out how to solve.

00:42:07.000 Well, once we figured out how to solve that, we realized it's not a technical problem.

00:42:11.000 I think, and sometimes it's what bothers me in a lot of the border discussions, is people get into some sort of, and I've done this too, I'll get into technical details.

00:42:18.000 You know, do we need aquatic barriers in the Rio Grande?

00:42:20.000 What do we think about the airlines?

00:42:22.000 How should they be conforming the standards to the other people at the TSA, the thousands standing around, as I call them at the airport, or what are they doing?

00:42:30.000 None of that matters.

00:42:32.000 Actually eliminate the intention.

00:42:34.000 Get the intentions in the right place.

00:42:35.000 Say our intention is for people who enter this country illegally to not be in this country. 1.00

00:42:41.000 Technically it becomes actually a very easy challenge to solve.

00:42:44.000 Militarize the southern border.

00:42:46.000 We're militarizing other people's borders. 0.94

00:42:48.000 How about militarizing our own with our own military?

00:42:50.000 Militarize our border as we are doing and should not be doing for others. 0.93

00:42:54.000 Use the aquatic barriers in the Rio Grande.

00:42:55.000 Stop giving money to Central America.

00:42:57.000 Most of the people coming through Mexico, 80% of them didn't start in Mexico, require each of those countries to build a border barricade all the way from Venezuela to the southern border of Texas. 0.98

00:43:07.000 End birthright citizenship for kids of illegals. 0.78

00:43:10.000 The 14th Amendment does not apply to the kids of illegals. 0.99

00:43:13.000 I can go to the legal argument on this.

00:43:15.000 They duped Donald Trump on this one.

00:43:16.000 They said you need a constitutional amendment.

00:43:17.000 Actually, you don't.

00:43:19.000 Stop federal funding for sanctuary cities.

00:43:21.000 We're paying for this.

00:43:22.000 Our federal taxpayer money is actually paying for this facilitation of the domestic transfer to sanctuary cities.

00:43:28.000 And then anybody in this country should be returned to their country of origin if you're here illegally. 1.00

00:43:32.000 It's that simple.

00:43:34.000 Now, they say there's only 6,000 ICE agents, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agents.

00:43:40.000 Well again, if you read the law, there's a section in the law, I think it's 287G, or something like this, that allows ICE agents to serve their warrants via local law enforcement.

00:43:53.000 You just need, again, somebody running, ideally the entire executive branch, a president who tells

00:43:57.000 the Department of Homeland Security and ICE to use that authority to work with local law

00:44:01.000 enforcement. Now you've got a million people, not just 6,000, to get the job done. So I gave you

00:44:06.000 all of this as though the technical challenge was really the challenge. It's not. It's a challenge

00:44:10.000 of intention. Right now there's been a long-standing intention to fundamentally change the composition

00:44:16.000 electorate.

00:44:17.000 If you call that a great replacement theory, CNN will have a conniption.

00:44:22.000 If you say that, you know what, this is part of an electoral strategy, they would ask you what's so wrong with that.

00:44:27.000 But either way, we've got to at least air what it actually is to be able to have a debate whether this is desirable policy or not.

00:44:33.000 But if you say if you like it, and if you support people coming in and replacing the local population, you of course get promoted by the corporate media.

00:44:40.000 There's crazy stats out there talking about how there's more illegals brought into the United States than actual babies born inside of this country.

00:44:47.000 This is, to me, the weaponization of human trafficking, the introduction of the third world into the United States that's going to create a super elitist uber class and a poor poverty everyone else class. 0.98

00:44:59.000 This is far beyond just even a great replacement.

00:45:01.000 This is This is essentially the destruction of this country from within.

00:45:06.000 How can we roll this back?

00:45:08.000 How can we go back from hundreds of thousands of people coming into this country in such a weaponized way?

00:45:13.000 Millions of people.

00:45:15.000 Well, you can draft them into the military.

00:45:17.000 Send them to Ukraine. 1.00

00:45:18.000 Because the idea of mass deportations is like a storybook.

00:45:22.000 Nazi Germany visage. Like I can see the images of like newly deputized ICE agents like a 19 year old cop

00:45:28.000 going and like grabbing some woman and pulling her out of her house and her screaming as the baby's lying on the

00:45:34.000 ground like The world will not tolerate it even our own country as much

00:45:38.000 as I'm not saying that deportations are are off the table But that's the imagery that would be swung with something

00:45:44.000 like that So what do you do?

00:45:46.000 Send them into the army? 0.92

00:45:47.000 Let them earn their citizenship by fighting in the Ukraine? 0.87

00:45:49.000 I don't know what the plan is.

00:45:50.000 The only thing I would say about that is, one is I do favor in substance, doing this as humanely and respectfully as possible in substance, largely because For many of these people, it's not necessarily their fault, right?

00:46:03.000 If you're sitting in Honduras or wherever, and you got a U.S.

00:46:05.000 president and an entire apparatus that's giving you a wink and a nod to come on over, who knows?

00:46:09.000 Maybe if many of us were in their shoes, we would have done the same thing, especially if we're parents of children who want better lives for our children.

00:46:16.000 So I just think it's the right thing to do for this country because we're a nation founded on the rule of law.

00:46:20.000 That's not something that's necessarily hostile to... Most of those millions are not otherwise innately bad people, but these are people, regardless of whether they're good people or bad people, we're a nation founded on the rule of law.

00:46:32.000 So I can't, with my level of sort of moral clarity on this, I can't be a father of two sons in the White House, tell them they have to follow the rules when I'm leading a U.S.

00:46:42.000 government that actively isn't following its own rules.

00:46:44.000 And so I think as respectfully and humanely as possible, we have to return them to the country of origin. 1.00

00:46:49.000 But there's a philosophical point here, too, which is, I think once we fall into the trap as leaders of trying to make decisions based on how we fear they will be portrayed, Then we're done making the right decisions, and we're just down the road of actually dancing to what we think we're going to be portrayed as.

00:47:08.000 And it becomes circular.

00:47:09.000 Whereas I think the job of a good leader is to do what is right, and when the public does not agree with you, to persuade them of the fact that that was still the right thing to do.

00:47:19.000 I do think the public are now very aware of the problem that's happening right now.

00:47:24.000 I'm totally comfortable with mass deportations.

00:47:26.000 I could definitely stomach watching mass deportations happen.

00:47:29.000 I mean, we've been forced to stomach watching it happen the other way.

00:47:32.000 I don't know if I'm broken on the inside, but I mean, reading these stories about people that can't afford groceries and yet are having to watch buses and schools emailing them saying, hey, don't come in today because we've decided to give the school that you've been funding for years with your tax dollars I feel bad for those people.

00:47:52.000 I feel bad for the American people that are suffering at the gas pumps, suffering at the grocery stores and constantly being told by the left that you need to feel bad for someone else somewhere more than you feel bad for yourself.

00:48:05.000 I think it's time for Americans to get a little bit more selfish in that regard and stop.

00:48:10.000 I think they will do.

00:48:11.000 I think we're suffering enough now that people are going Yeah, you gotta militarize the border.

00:48:14.000 There should be, I mean this is, I don't hear this enough in the rhetoric, but there should be machine gun nests pointing outward away from our borders saying, and but then what you need is a leader at the top that's not waving people in because if they're waving people in, no, no, no machine gun nests.

00:48:26.000 That's not, we're not going to do that.

00:48:28.000 But if, I think that unless you tell them to stop coming, and I mean you do it with more than just your words, that it's not, the problem isn't going to stop.

00:48:36.000 Well, I appreciate what I would describe as Ian's big ask.

00:48:39.000 And now we're going to walk way back from machine gun nests on the border to, like, maybe a fence.

00:48:44.000 It's not even that, you statist authoritarian.

00:48:48.000 It's more about not incentivizing this from happening.

00:48:51.000 I mean, giving our resource, giving our tax dollars is essentially telling a lot of people

00:48:57.000 because I covered this situation on the ground in Mexico, I covered it in Europe, in southern

00:49:01.000 Italy as well.

00:49:03.000 I covered it all over the world and all these people were told, hey, come on in, we're going

00:49:07.000 to take care of you, we're going to give you all the opportunities, we're going to give

00:49:09.000 you everything you want.

00:49:10.000 But they don't tell them how essentially a lot of multinational corporations use them

00:49:14.000 as slave labor.

00:49:15.000 They don't tell them about a larger Koch brother plan that we used to have members of the Senate

00:49:20.000 to talk about specifically from from Vermont that no longer bring it up as a key issue as

00:49:24.000 of course it is affecting everyone.

00:49:27.000 It is affecting the blue collar middle class Americans and even more importantly the poorest

00:49:31.000 people in this country that are now left out literally in the cold.

00:49:35.000 It is a lie when they say that these are jobs Americans don't want.

00:49:38.000 And we saw this when Donald Trump I think the number was around 600 or so individuals

00:49:42.000 deported from meat processing plants in the South.

00:49:45.000 And then once several hundred people are deported these companies say we need to hire so they

00:49:49.000 hope they have a job fair.

00:49:51.000 Who shows up?

00:49:52.000 Americans.

00:49:52.000 And there were interviews, and you can Google and watch these videos.

00:49:55.000 One man is asked, why are you coming to work at this plant?

00:49:57.000 You know, these are jobs that Americans don't want.

00:49:58.000 And he goes, are you kidding?

00:49:59.000 Pays 14 bucks an hour.

00:50:00.000 That's more money than I'm making right now.

00:50:01.000 It's a good job for me.

00:50:03.000 They want you to believe nobody wants these jobs as they give them away and drop the prices.

00:50:08.000 And I gotta say, it is these large multinational corporations that know they can pay people under the table dirt wages, and this is how they get cheap labor.

00:50:17.000 I just want to say one thing to Ian's point from earlier.

00:50:20.000 I think it's important to understand what's going on, like, on the ground in Southern Border.

00:50:25.000 Have any of you guys been to Southern Border?

00:50:26.000 No, I have.

00:50:27.000 I should.

00:50:27.000 I have.

00:50:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:28.000 Because, actually, you have.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 So I think that that probably affects your view, Candice.

00:50:31.000 It definitely affects mine, having been there.

00:50:35.000 It's not like you have this situation where illegal migrants or whatever are trying to cross the Rio Grande, sneak across, get a sprint, and then do you shoot them or not?

00:50:46.000 It's not one of those situations.

00:50:48.000 It's organized by our own government.

00:50:51.000 It's facilitated.

00:50:52.000 It's actually what was striking about it is there's a lot of things in life that are pretty disorganized.

00:50:57.000 Like starting a startup company is pretty disorganized.

00:50:59.000 You guys maybe have a similar enterprise here that you started from the ground floor.

00:51:03.000 I've seen a lot of things that are good in life are disorganized.

00:51:06.000 This is not disorganized.

00:51:07.000 This is striking because of how markedly organized it actually is.

00:51:11.000 There's a process.

00:51:12.000 They give you forms.

00:51:13.000 Here's the box you check.

00:51:14.000 You don't have to know English.

00:51:15.000 They'll just tell you which box to check.

00:51:16.000 Seeking asylum.

00:51:17.000 Do you have to show proof of political persecution to get asylum?

00:51:20.000 Not at all.

00:51:21.000 It's just a procedure you go through.

00:51:22.000 You know exactly go from point A to point B to point C.

00:51:25.000 And so part of militarizing the southern border is the signal that we send, because that's the signal we're sending right now.

00:51:30.000 Not only coming in, but then you show up to Sanctuary City, you get baby formula, you get sneakers, $7,000 per migrant per month, converting South Shore High School on the south side of Chicago into an encampment for migrants.

00:51:42.000 So I think part of what we're doing is offering a clear statement.

00:51:45.000 We end federal funding for sanctuary cities.

00:51:48.000 You know in advance that if your child is born in the United States, they're not going to actually enjoy citizenship.

00:51:52.000 Oh, there's a wall and a fence and people wearing camo because they serve in the U.S.

00:51:57.000 military facing outward.

00:51:59.000 I'll never have the military carrying out domestic law enforcement functions, but facing outward against what currently is an organized invasion into our country.

00:52:08.000 That's, I think, what's going on.

00:52:09.000 And so this idea of, yeah, guys with guns and do you shoot or not?

00:52:13.000 It's just, like, just, it's just not even close to what's happening right now.

00:52:17.000 And I think part of this is, goes back to, it's not the technicals that matter.

00:52:21.000 It's a statement of intention.

00:52:23.000 If we believe, and we have a national consensus, and I believe we basically do, but the Democratic Party needs to align and admit it openly, that we do not want large numbers of illegal people entering this country, we absolutely and quickly can put an end to it as a technical matter. 0.90

00:52:37.000 The problem is there's a statement of intention that not only is that not what much of the Democratic Party believes, that same wing actually believes it is inherently a good thing, and the question is how do you adopt policies that facilitating it, while pretending like you actually Wish for the opposite.

00:52:52.000 That's really what this is about.

00:52:53.000 So all the technical solutions become really details, footnotes, compared to really a debate about the intentions.

00:53:01.000 Do you want a mass change in the composition of the U.S.

00:53:03.000 electorate and the composition of the ethnic and linguistic background of people in the United States, or don't you?

00:53:09.000 That's what's on the tape.

00:53:09.000 When it comes to, like, using the law, you said earlier, you want to stick with the law, like, focus on the law.

00:53:14.000 And really, as the president, that is, like, your job is the commander of the military, number one.

00:53:19.000 But, like, law and order I get.

00:53:20.000 But sometimes law and order can be used for evil.

00:53:22.000 I agree.

00:53:23.000 And we need to be diligent or at least judicious about how we implement, I don't know if you want to call it prosecutorial or commandorial, you know.

00:53:31.000 expression you get to pick and choose when you enforce when you enforce the

00:53:36.000 law so like deportations I I'm still my jury's out on this one right now.

00:53:42.000 It was for me for a while too but I think that's only yeah I look let me let me

00:53:47.000 stress Getting people to turn on their neighbors and be like, I think he's illegal.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, we're not talking about that.

00:53:53.000 But look, humans can do bad things.

00:53:55.000 I actually have a tremendous amount of respect for people who are willing to traverse miles through desert, dozens or hundreds or thousands of miles, because the dream of America is so incredible.

00:54:04.000 But it's got to be a legal process.

00:54:06.000 But it's not even the dream that's being sold to them.

00:54:08.000 It's just the idea.

00:54:09.000 You're being offered free stuff now.

00:54:10.000 This is not the American dream and I'm suffering so much in this country and I'm willing to

00:54:14.000 traverse through the desert for an opportunity.

00:54:18.000 Like you said, it is now systematic.

00:54:20.000 You are going to have a better life.

00:54:21.000 As soon as you get here, it's all set up for you.

00:54:23.000 I met a journalist that found the dumping point where they're being told to dump all

00:54:27.000 of their IDs.

00:54:28.000 They're coming in on flights from other countries dumping their IDs because they're being told to.

00:54:32.000 She had three bags filled with their IDs.

00:54:35.000 And then they handed these pamphlets from the UN, by the way, which was beyond bonkers.

00:54:40.000 She showed me this pamphlet that was coming from the UN.

00:54:42.000 And they're being told to do this to come into this country because they know that there are politicians that are setting up an entire system for them where their lives will be better.

00:54:49.000 So this is not the same.

00:54:50.000 The same mentality of people that are coming at the border right now.

00:54:53.000 We have to let go of this idea that they're just these suffering people who are willing to do anything for an opportunity.

00:54:59.000 They're just being offered handouts at the expense of the American people.

00:55:02.000 It's like an assembly line to bring them in.

00:55:03.000 Free health care and free gender changes. 1.00

00:55:06.000 Lottery tickets.

00:55:07.000 I'll use it as a segue.

00:55:08.000 One of the things I've heard quite a bit Many people back in my hometown, Chicago, have said, I can't afford to pay the rent.

00:55:16.000 My groceries are too expensive.

00:55:17.000 We just went to Hy-Vee, grocery store out here.

00:55:20.000 It was great.

00:55:21.000 But yeah, it was expensive.

00:55:22.000 I mean, we, we got, I got three things of salami.

00:55:26.000 I always love buying salami and cheese dip.

00:55:28.000 A couple things of heavy whipping cream with our coffee, four grocery bags, it was 300 bucks.

00:55:32.000 To be fair, we got some vitamins and some protein powder.

00:55:34.000 I know those are a little more expensive, but I was surprised to see this little bit was so much.

00:55:38.000 And I hear people say, why are, in Chicago particularly, when I went and visited home, they're paying these people rent, they're putting them in hotels, they're giving them our schools, they're getting a free pass from our tax dollars and I can't afford to pay rent?

00:55:50.000 I can't afford to survive.

00:55:52.000 So part of the immigration issue that many people are feeling is the economic hit they're taking.

00:55:57.000 We're paying taxes that are supporting all of these flights where they're bringing in hundreds or thousands.

00:56:04.000 These buses, they're being paid for by the American taxpayer while the American taxpayer suffers and can't afford to pay rent.

00:56:11.000 Yeah, and I think actually that's what makes this a nonpartisan issue.

00:56:15.000 This should be a slam-dunk issue for us.

00:56:17.000 It was your hometown, Chicago.

00:56:18.000 I didn't realize that.

00:56:19.000 I visited the south side of Chicago earlier in this campaign, which is a very traditional campaign.

00:56:24.000 Which part?

00:56:25.000 South Shore?

00:56:26.000 South Shore.

00:56:26.000 A couple of different areas, too, but we went to South Shore High School is where we finished the day.

00:56:30.000 Oh, really?

00:56:30.000 That's where you grew up?

00:56:32.000 Midway Airport.

00:56:32.000 Two blocks away.

00:56:34.000 Well, good deep dish pizza and all that.

00:56:36.000 It's called soup.

00:56:38.000 There's some things to like.

00:56:39.000 Wow, that's the tourist stuff.

00:56:40.000 Art of pizza, check it out.

00:56:41.000 But that's what I am when I go.

00:56:43.000 We don't get to go to Chicago every day, so we pick some on the way out.

00:56:45.000 But, you know, it was interesting where it was a room full, you know, maybe like this one.

00:56:51.000 A little bit different ethnic composition.

00:56:54.000 95% black, 150% democrat, as they told me before you went.

00:56:57.000 Maybe that's how they count their votes.

00:56:59.000 But anyway, it was interesting, right?

00:57:02.000 The first part of the exchange was contentious because some people came with some questions that were I think there were some people who had some real animus to me in that room.

00:57:09.000 One woman, she asked me a question, walked straight out because she didn't like my answer on racial reparations. 0.99

00:57:14.000 But actually, things changed pretty quickly when we got to the question of illegal mass migration, where they're literally converting the local high school into an encampment for migrants at a cost of $7,000 per migrant per month, when the people in that community, Americans, are asking the question, what about me?

00:57:31.000 And actually, later it came up.

00:57:32.000 Somebody else asked me on their own.

00:57:33.000 I wasn't bringing up foreign policy.

00:57:36.000 Why are we sending our money to Ukraine?

00:57:39.000 Almost challenging me like I was a person who would, presumably because of being a Republican or whatever, believe that this was a good idea.

00:57:45.000 And I explained that, no, no, no, this is actually a very bad idea.

00:57:48.000 We should not be doing this.

00:57:49.000 And we actually left with a lot of common ground on both of those issues, which is why I think it's actually very important not to see the America First movement through the prism of even the Republican Party.

00:57:59.000 I mean, the Republican Party means Very little.

00:58:01.000 It doesn't mean anything to be a Republican.

00:58:03.000 It doesn't predict what you mean based on foreign policy.

00:58:06.000 It doesn't predict what you think about free speech.

00:58:07.000 It doesn't predict what you think about national security, state overreach.

00:58:10.000 So that label means a lot less.

00:58:12.000 But I think that because of what you just said, it's expensive right now.

00:58:16.000 People are struggling in this country.

00:58:19.000 This is something that should cross partisan lines, racial lines.

00:58:24.000 I think there's an opportunity for us to deliver a landslide election in 2024.

00:58:28.000 And a landslide minus some shenanigans is still a win, which, you know, I think is something we have to prepare for.

00:58:33.000 And that's kind of my whole M.O.

00:58:35.000 in this thing.

00:58:35.000 I saw several polls.

00:58:37.000 Many of you may have seen them.

00:58:38.000 The youth vote swinging towards Donald Trump.

00:58:40.000 That's pretty shocking.

00:58:41.000 But I have to imagine if, you know, from where I grew up in Chicago, I've got my relatives talking about they're talking about building physical encampments, taking a whole area in the South Side and building a camp from scratch.

00:58:53.000 I remember when I was 16, I got my first paycheck.

00:58:55.000 Doesn't everybody remember that?

00:58:57.000 And you're like, I was supposed to get paid, you know, eight bucks an hour.

00:58:59.000 I worked X amount of hours.

00:59:00.000 And then you look at your check and you're like, where's my money?

00:59:03.000 And then all the older guys laugh and they were like, look at the tax section.

00:59:06.000 It's called theft.

00:59:07.000 Now imagine, that's right.

00:59:09.000 Now imagine 16, 17, 18 year old kids working their first, first job or whatever, get that first paycheck.

00:59:16.000 They see how much money is taken from them, from their hard labor.

00:59:19.000 They work their fingers to the bone.

00:59:21.000 And then at the same time, on the news, your tax dollars, $7,000 per person per month.

00:59:28.000 We're talking about $84,000 a year for free to people who are not from this country, who have not worked for this country, and you, hard-working young man, have a third of your income taken by the government to give to them.

00:59:40.000 And maybe it's because we have a $34 trillion national surplus to spend on this.

00:59:44.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:59:44.000 It's actually a $34 trillion national debt.

00:59:47.000 We're already in the hole.

00:59:48.000 And so anyway, I do think that the silver lining in this is that the more we kind of talk about this through classical Republican versus Democrat, you know, fire Biden kind of mentality stuff, which is super boring and not the right way to look at this election.

01:00:02.000 I think the more we're going to fall into the trap of getting another 50.1 election.

01:00:04.000 We're playing tug-of-war and MSNBC's trotting out the winner six days after the ballots are cast.

01:00:10.000 That's not the direction we need to go.

01:00:11.000 I think there is a movement that transcends partisan and racial boundaries.

01:00:15.000 I think it translates, it transcends national boundaries right now, too, in many ways what you see in certain other countries.

01:00:20.000 But in this country, I can get 75-80% of this country agreeing on many of the things we're talking about right here.

01:00:26.000 Hypothetical.

01:00:26.000 You get elected.

01:00:27.000 Day one, what do you begin doing to help alleviate the stress on the economy and the average person to help them increase their standard of living and better the economy?

01:00:36.000 Yeah, look, I think that there's some very basic things to do.

01:00:39.000 One is the easiest thing you could do to alleviate both the national debt and the economy at the same time.

01:00:45.000 There's a lot behind this, but I'll just get to the punchline.

01:00:48.000 Get the oil and natural gas out from underneath our ground.

01:00:53.000 We know how to do that.

01:00:54.000 Sell it.

01:00:56.000 And buy down about $8 trillion of our national debt.

01:00:58.000 That takes us from 34 to 26.

01:00:59.000 Next.

01:01:02.000 End this, you know, end a lot of the foreign wars in Ukraine and elsewhere.

01:01:04.000 That's another $7 trillion of our national debt.

01:01:05.000 Now our national debt problem, $7 trillion was due to Iraq and Afghanistan, and I don't want to be on the track to do the same thing. 0.86

01:01:12.000 And then initiate a mass firing.

01:01:14.000 Not a chisel, but a chainsaw-style firing.

01:01:17.000 Afuera.

01:01:18.000 Of seventy, yep, seventy-five percent of federal bureaucrats. 0.84

01:01:21.000 Start that on day one.

01:01:22.000 That is, of every four people there, three of them will be gone.

01:01:25.000 Definitely by the end of the first term, and preferably sooner.

01:01:29.000 And problem is, when you've got a bunch of those people showing up to work who should have never had that job in the first place, they start finding new things to do.

01:01:35.000 A lot of them is writing regulations that Congress never authorized, which is acting like the wet blanket on the economy.

01:01:41.000 And my first action as it relates to the regulatory state is, Any law that Congress didn't actually pass or specifically instruct an agency to write a regulation for, it's my view and the current Supreme Court's view that it's unconstitutional.

01:01:55.000 Rescind all of them and state on day one we're stopping enforcement of those regulations and view them as null and void.

01:02:00.000 That grows this economy.

01:02:01.000 It increases the supply of housing.

01:02:03.000 Think about housing.

01:02:04.000 We have land use restrictions.

01:02:05.000 We have EPA restrictions that are limiting new housing construction.

01:02:09.000 Increase the supply.

01:02:10.000 Brings down the cost.

01:02:11.000 Grows the economy.

01:02:13.000 Energy.

01:02:13.000 Unlock the supply of oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear energy.

01:02:17.000 Increase the supply.

01:02:18.000 Bring down the cost.

01:02:20.000 Grows the economy.

01:02:22.000 Stop paying people more money to stay at home instead of to go to work.

01:02:25.000 Increase the supply of labor.

01:02:26.000 Most small businesses, the hardest thing they find right now to expand is to hire new people to fill those roles.

01:02:33.000 So even before I get to reform of the Federal Reserve, which is a favorite topic of mine, That's not a day one item.

01:02:39.000 Just literally day one.

01:02:40.000 These are the kind of steps we can put into motion.

01:02:42.000 And yes, I think we get back to 4% GDP growth, possibly 5% GDP growth by the end of my first term.

01:02:46.000 It could be even magnitude.

01:02:48.000 We might land magnitudes of growth because what we're going to do is transform into a hydrogen-based fuel economy.

01:02:53.000 Here we go.

01:02:53.000 They figured out at Rice University how to... He's not wrong.

01:02:56.000 Yeah, they take what's called...

01:02:57.000 That is interesting.

01:02:58.000 He needed to hear that.

01:03:01.000 They figured out how to make it profitable to make hydrogen, essentially.

01:03:04.000 This has been the entire time.

01:03:05.000 It's like it costs too much money to make the fuel.

01:03:07.000 They figured out you take any carbon trash, you hit it with a laser called flash joule heating, 7,000 degrees for 0.1 milliseconds.

01:03:15.000 And it turns it into, you can get hydrogen and graphene as a byproduct, which you can use as a building material to build houses, build roads, to enforce your roads by making them three times stronger.

01:03:25.000 It's 200 times stronger than steel by weight, this material, pure carbon.

01:03:29.000 And for every kilogram of hydrogen you produce with this process, you get about $4.50 of graphene.

01:03:35.000 Now, as esoteric as that may be for many people, the core fans of the show have heard it a million times.

01:03:37.000 would displace, technically a hydrogen economy might displace the oil, you can

01:03:41.000 turn the oil into graphene so we can keep pumping it and we can keep selling

01:03:44.000 it. Now as esoteric as that may be for many people, the core fans of the show

01:03:49.000 have heard it a million times, I think the actual simple message though is

01:03:53.000 innovation in the energy sector.

01:03:55.000 Yes.

01:03:55.000 Beyond just oil.

01:03:56.000 It could be hydrogen, it could be fusion.

01:03:58.000 I mean, there's big breakthroughs there.

01:03:59.000 Both.

01:03:59.000 Nuclear energy.

01:04:00.000 You can pump the hydrogen through the natural gas lines of the planet, so we've already got an infrastructure.

01:04:04.000 The guy's name is James Tour at Rice University I'll put you in touch with if you want to go.

01:04:08.000 Cool.

01:04:08.000 I would love to learn more.

01:04:09.000 You were going to say something?

01:04:10.000 No, I was just going to talk about nuclear energy in terms of one of the main obstacles to this.

01:04:14.000 And this, I think, to the extent that this involves actually what exactly laser accomplishes, but it is sort of splitting of the nucleus.

01:04:20.000 It's electricity.

01:04:21.000 Oh, what are you... I think that it would not fall within the NRC's ambit, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

01:04:26.000 No, it's not nuclear, this process.

01:04:28.000 It's a physical breakdown.

01:04:29.000 Just physical breakdown.

01:04:30.000 Got it.

01:04:31.000 So I'll have to learn more about that.

01:04:32.000 But I'm talking about at least the production of more kinds of energy in the United States, including nuclear energy.

01:04:37.000 Again, one of the obstacles is the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

01:04:40.000 And again, the right answer is you can't reform these agencies.

01:04:43.000 I think the right answer is to get in there and just shut them down one by one.

01:04:48.000 Just say afuera. 0.98

01:04:49.000 Afuera.

01:04:50.000 No, afuera means outside.

01:04:51.000 Are you trying to say fuego?

01:04:53.000 Is that what he was saying on the fire?

01:04:55.000 You could like throw it out, right?

01:04:56.000 No, when Millet was pulling things off the wall yelling afuera.

01:05:02.000 I've said this many times, if I have not made Javier Millet look like a moderate, by the end of my first three months I haven't done my job.

01:05:09.000 So I like the guy, I've actually been following him for a long time.

01:05:11.000 Goes around with a chainsaw.

01:05:13.000 Yeah, chainsaw first, chisel second.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, I think that's one of the things that got me excited about you, just as a candidate.

01:05:18.000 It was just, it's remarkable to me that we have all of these people that are running and they make it seem like being America first is something that's dirty, like it's something that's wrong.

01:05:26.000 And I just could not get over all of them parroting this point that we could do both.

01:05:30.000 That drove me crazy.

01:05:31.000 I wanted to scream as I was sitting there.

01:05:34.000 We can do both.

01:05:35.000 We can take care of the Ukrainians in every other country.

01:05:38.000 We can do it.

01:05:39.000 Look around you.

01:05:41.000 Look around you.

01:05:41.000 Does it look like we are successfully doing both?

01:05:44.000 Have we been successfully doing both?

01:05:46.000 I mean this country has been in a steep decline and a large part of it is because what ends up happening is what we saw on that stage and what we've seen Just throughout this entire election process is just people are bought and paid for Right and and the people that they tend to sell out are always the American people We're told that we have to feel bad.

01:06:03.000 We have to put ourselves last it's always an American last perspective And so it's just been exciting to have you get up there on the stage and everywhere that you've been going and you've been doing so many podcasts without question I think Everyone can agree that you have been the hardest working candidate this election cycle.

01:06:17.000 I've seen you everywhere.

01:06:18.000 I mean, I appreciate obscure podcast.

01:06:19.000 It's it's it's really wonderful.

01:06:20.000 Just the work ethic is so impressive and you're young and I'm a mother of three and so it was something that was very important to me and I'm just kind of showering you with the compliments here, obviously, but that is something that's very scary for me because when we talk about even the process of illegal immigration you think about as a parent.

01:06:37.000 This is also going to become issues down the line when we talk about the violence that is going to be imparted in inner cities.

01:06:43.000 This is something that terrifies me.

01:06:44.000 Something that terrifies me.

01:06:45.000 You have unchecked people coming into this country. 0.72

01:06:48.000 We know that they are coming from countries where the cartels are running things.

01:06:51.000 We have no idea who is being brought into this country at this moment.

01:06:55.000 As a parent, that's terrifying.

01:06:57.000 Yes.

01:06:58.000 And I just think a lot of the candidates are not willing to talk about these issues in a way that I think most of the candidates are really reading scripts provided to them by their super PACs or the people who fund them.

01:07:15.000 I mean, I think that's effectively what American politics has become.

01:07:19.000 For the worse.

01:07:20.000 And I think you've got to be willing to say, I mean, it's sad the system works this way, but we've put, our families put over $25 million, close to $30 million into this campaign.

01:07:29.000 There's going to be more going in.

01:07:31.000 That's what it takes to run presidential elections.

01:07:34.000 Even still, it's hard to compete against the super PAC industrial complex where the amount of money being spent on television advertisements by the like of Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, but it's not really them.

01:07:42.000 It's the super PACs.

01:07:44.000 That's the real cancer on American politics.

01:07:47.000 And the Super PAC's culture selects for candidates that just make them vessels for advancing what that Super PAC industrial complex wants to advance.

01:07:56.000 And so one of the things I think, again, this is an opportunity to go beyond traditional partisan boundaries, building towards a Reagan 1980-style landslide.

01:08:04.000 You got Ukraine in that category.

01:08:05.000 You got the southern border in that category.

01:08:08.000 I think we should be favoring ending Super PACs.

01:08:10.000 Not by violating any First Amendment rights, but by just saying that You know what?

01:08:14.000 If there's a $3,300 maximum that you can give to a campaign, that's what it is in the GOP primary.

01:08:20.000 That's a lot of money, but it's not enough to corrupt a politician who's running for president.

01:08:24.000 If there's a super PAC that's donating to presidential candidates, if you're donating to that super PAC, you should also be capped out at $3,300 per person.

01:08:33.000 I don't think that that's too much to ask.

01:08:36.000 This used to be a left-wing idea, actually.

01:08:38.000 I think that right now we're at a place where the Republican Party absolutely can and should embrace it.

01:08:43.000 I think it'll be wildly popular, and again, part of building towards an 80-plus percent electoral majority, minus some shenanigans, is still a decisive landslide victory.

01:08:53.000 But anyway, I think that's what's going on is you kind of have candidates, when you start to think that they're actually advancing their own convictions, we're kind of missing the point.

01:09:02.000 They're vessels for advancing what the donors really want to wield them to actually stand for.

01:09:07.000 There's this issue in Iowa right now, actually, which is super interesting.

01:09:11.000 I was actually at an event at the state capitol earlier today.

01:09:14.000 It sounds like an esoteric issue maybe, but it's not really because it affects every American.

01:09:19.000 They're building a carbon dioxide capture pipeline across this state that we're in right now.

01:09:24.000 They make a lot of ethanol in this state, they say capture carbon dioxide.

01:09:27.000 Build a pipeline across the state and then bury it in the ground in North Dakota.

01:09:32.000 Why?

01:09:32.000 No one really knows why other than the fact that our federal government's providing subsidies in the name of fighting climate change because carbon dioxide is a bad actor.

01:09:39.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:09:40.000 Carbon dioxide is plant food.

01:09:42.000 So this idea of removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere being some sort of worthy goal, I could go on for a full day about why that's based on a false premise.

01:09:50.000 But we're using our own taxpayer money to pay people in the state.

01:09:53.000 There's a business, a couple of businesses, that are now using eminent domain to seize the land of farmers here, rights to use their land, when most Iowa farmers who I've met do not like that being built across their backyard.

01:10:07.000 So I could go a little bit longer on this, but the point I'm bringing it up is not a single other Republican candidate Not a single one has expressed opposition to this carbon capture pipeline.

01:10:19.000 Why?

01:10:19.000 Because the most powerful people, at least in this state, as it relates to the Republican donor establishment, do not permit you to oppose the carbon capture pipeline.

01:10:26.000 Interesting.

01:10:27.000 And so again, it comes back to that mega money in politics.

01:10:30.000 Could we go a little bit deeper here, because you mentioned the Federal Reserve just a little bit, and this is an institution created in 1913 that's a quasi-private cartel, parading around like it's some kind of private bank, when it's essentially not.

01:10:43.000 Thomas Jefferson said that he believes banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies, with their corporate bailouts, with the inflation, which is essentially a tax on the poor, a theft of resources from the poorest people in this country, and the Fed, yes or no?

01:10:59.000 I would like to, but that requires legislation.

01:11:02.000 I make promises that I will keep as your next president.

01:11:05.000 And here's the promise I'll keep with respect to the Fed is a 90% headcount reduction at the U.S.

01:11:10.000 Fed combined with restoring effectively a single mandate, one purpose, peg the dollar to commodities, stabilize the dollar as a unit of measurement.

01:11:20.000 It should be just a basic function of arithmetic and nothing more.

01:11:23.000 And again, part of the problem is you've got those 23,000 people or so at the U.S.

01:11:26.000 Federal Reserve now that we don't need to do that narrow function of pegging the dollar to commodities.

01:11:32.000 They find things to do.

01:11:33.000 That's where the central bank digital currency comes from.

01:11:35.000 That's where a lot of these other, the CBDC, which is a backdoor way of ensuring a government surveillance system of being able to wipe you out for doing something the government didn't approve of.

01:11:44.000 That's how you get to raining money from on high like mana from heaven in the aim of balancing inflation and unemployment.

01:11:49.000 It's like the equivalent of hitting two targets with one arrow and missing at both.

01:11:52.000 So hopefully that answers your question.

01:11:54.000 We'll dive a little bit into that because one of the big stories today is that the SEC has approved Bitcoin ETFs.

01:11:59.000 I believe more than just that.

01:12:00.000 I think it's crypto market ETFs.

01:12:02.000 And there's a lot of people who are concerned about a lot of people cheering it on.

01:12:05.000 But this brings us to the acceptance of the US government as it pertains to crypto and the fear that they're going to push central bank digital currency, also known as CBDC.

01:12:15.000 Could you explain to people what that is and your position on CBDC?

01:12:19.000 Sure.

01:12:19.000 And so let's just take decentralized Decentralized options in the blockchain like Bitcoin or otherwise.

01:12:28.000 Put that to one side.

01:12:28.000 I think greater decentralization at least as an option that's available to hold the dollar to its feet as an alternative to opt out from that system is a good thing.

01:12:35.000 Let me pause you real quick.

01:12:36.000 Sorry.

01:12:37.000 There's probably a lot of people who don't know what central bank digital currency even is.

01:12:41.000 So I was going to segregate the issue of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency away from the central bank digital currency, which the easiest way to think about this would be Turning your dollar into effectively a digital asset that's centrally monitorable.

01:12:56.000 We could use, you know, talk about which way they would use the blockchain or not.

01:12:59.000 It doesn't matter.

01:13:00.000 The simple way to think about it is take the cash in your pocket and convert that into the equivalent of like tokens you'd get in a digital video game.

01:13:11.000 And they can either up or down the number of points you have, which are dollars in your bank account, not based on what you deposit or take in or take out, but based on whatever the government actually decides is the criteria for increasing or decreasing what's in your bank account.

01:13:25.000 Indeed, they're doing this in China.

01:13:27.000 In fact, that's one of the principal arguments for bringing it to the United States, is that China is adopting a digital yuan, as an equivalent of a central bank digital currency in China.

01:13:37.000 Now, we have to ask ourselves, why is China doing it?

01:13:39.000 The general argument in the UK, which is moving in this direction, and the US, which is taking the earliest of steps to move in this direction through the so-called FedNow program.

01:13:49.000 The argument is we have to keep up technologically with China, keep up with the Joneses or keep up with the Jinping's, as the case may be here, right? 0.95

01:13:56.000 You have to ask yourself, why is China doing it?

01:13:59.000 They want to actually be able to exert monitoring and control and discipline of their own citizens.

01:14:04.000 It's the ultimate manifestation of a social credit system.

01:14:08.000 So that's what this is about in China.

01:14:10.000 Now, there's a version of this.

01:14:11.000 It wasn't exactly through a central bank digital currency per se.

01:14:14.000 But to at least understand the impact it can have on your life, look at what they did to the Canadian truckers.

01:14:19.000 They cut off access to their bank accounts.

01:14:21.000 They cut off access to their Canadian dollars when they took a position against vaccine mandates and a position against lockdowns that they couldn't address through any means other than through using the weaponization of the financial system to do it.

01:14:33.000 So if we bring that central bank digital currency to the United States, It offers another tool for what would be otherwise a tyrannical permanent government to be able to more effectively implement its will.

01:14:45.000 To be clear, and some people fall into this trap of thinking that just because we eliminate the tool, we've eliminated the intention.

01:14:50.000 No, the intention still exists.

01:14:52.000 But that doesn't mean that you still give them the same tool that would allow them to more quickly implement what they already are looking to in other ways.

01:14:59.000 I'd like to elaborate on why this would be so nightmarish.

01:15:02.000 We're talking eight or so years ago, ten years ago, we started seeing the rise of social media censorship.

01:15:10.000 If you tweeted something that was against the popular narrative, you'd get suspended.

01:15:14.000 Many of us were called conspiracy theorists for arguing what was actually happening.

01:15:19.000 In fact, it was reported by, I believe it was Gizmodo first in May of 2016, that Facebook had staff removing conservative news outlets from their trending tab.

01:15:27.000 That's just your ability to speak.

01:15:29.000 I know.

01:15:29.000 One of the more serious things to be able to lose.

01:15:32.000 To not be able to engage in the public sphere.

01:15:34.000 Imagine the same scale of censorship but in terms of you buying milk, bread, and eggs.

01:15:39.000 Yes.

01:15:39.000 One day you wake up and you go to the grocery store and you're using your app because that's what the central bank digital currency will be forced to be on your phone.

01:15:47.000 And you'll walk up, you'll put your milk on the self-checkout because there's no humans anymore.

01:15:51.000 You'll scan your phone and it'll say you have been banned from purchasing for 24 hours due to hate speech.

01:15:58.000 Or docked a certain number of dollars.

01:15:59.000 By the way, just going back to just bringing up COVID and the things that we saw throughout COVID, that was one of my major concerns that I spoke about.

01:16:06.000 Just the digitization of everything that was happening at that time.

01:16:09.000 Suddenly, like, they were trying to say your menus could have, potentially have COVID.

01:16:13.000 They kept saying that dollar bills, this was, do you remember this in the news?

01:16:16.000 Dollar bills could spread COVID and suddenly they didn't want any more dollar bills, were no longer accepting cash.

01:16:21.000 So many restaurants, grocery stores, no longer accepting cash because it could potentially spread COVID, which was an absurdity in my mind, an absolute absurdity.

01:16:30.000 But a lot of these things are now long lasting, right?

01:16:32.000 In terms of the fact that there's not that many human beings.

01:16:35.000 I don't know if it's the same where you live, but not that many human beings at the grocery store anymore.

01:16:38.000 They kept up the things after COVID that they said were just for COVID.

01:16:43.000 And I felt that it was very much because they did want us to move in this direction as a society.

01:16:46.000 Well, you can see it in Las Vegas.

01:16:48.000 Potentially to prep us for this.

01:16:49.000 And I just want to play that one step forward to tie earlier to one of an increasingly,

01:16:53.000 what looks like a Republican policy of, certainly of a certain candidate, of tying

01:17:00.000 your government issued ID to your internet account or your social media account.

01:17:04.000 So now combine that with the central bank digital currency.

01:17:06.000 Now you don't have to tie it to just milk in the grocery store.

01:17:08.000 Every time you hit like on a tweet that does not match the regime's approved narrative, we could dock you 50 cents.

01:17:16.000 If you hit retweet, you actually dock you a dollar.

01:17:18.000 And so, Jack Smith, I just want to tie this together, right?

01:17:21.000 Right now in the subpoena for one of the federal cases against Donald Trump, there's so many of them you lose track, but it's one of the Jack Smith federal prosecutions.

01:17:30.000 In that subpoena, I think it's worth people understanding, it certainly affects people who are watching us right now, might affect some of us in this room, maybe some of us at this table, I don't know.

01:17:37.000 Not me because I wasn't using Twitter back then, but if you retweeted or liked one of Donald Trump's posts in that year, That's now the subject of Jack Smith's subpoena.

01:17:49.000 So let's play that forward.

01:17:51.000 Your username or whatever has already been the subject of that subpoena.

01:17:55.000 Now say that that handle was tied to your government issued ID, which is also tied to your digital dollar.

01:18:01.000 He can't convict you in court necessarily. 0.93

01:18:03.000 But why don't we give them a nice little spanking? 1.00

01:18:06.000 Take a few dollars out of their bank account.

01:18:08.000 That's literally where this vision of the so-called Great Reset, that's where this lands.

01:18:12.000 That would be a coup.

01:18:13.000 That would be something, that would be an attempted coup by global enforcement powers that we cannot allow to happen.

01:18:19.000 They can already freeze your bank accounts when you're under investigation, say you worked for a company and then all of a sudden one day you can't buy things.

01:18:28.000 With the central bank digital currency, it goes so far beyond that.

01:18:31.000 It's a social credit system.

01:18:32.000 But it's automated.

01:18:34.000 It's to where it won't even be a judge saying, I think there's probable cause to freeze his account.

01:18:38.000 It's going to be a machine saying, your account is frozen and good luck.

01:18:42.000 Imagine having to go to the DMV every time you needed to get your bank unbanned.

01:18:46.000 And this is the, tell me if this is like too abstract and we can sort of bring it back, but it's a pattern that repeats itself in so many different places where, right now you're right, they can freeze your bank account even as it exists today.

01:18:59.000 But it takes something that requires the government to take a quantum step, right?

01:19:04.000 You have to have a preponderance of evidence that's 50.1% chance of actually having done it.

01:19:10.000 And then to actually convict somebody, you have to be beyond a reasonable doubt that's 99.999%, 100% certainty.

01:19:13.000 So you have to take these quantum steps of certainty.

01:19:18.000 What the central bank digital currency does is it takes this system that ties a quantum level of certainty and just makes it continuously varying, right?

01:19:26.000 So it's not like Jack Smith is going to say that he's going to wipe out your entire bank account and freeze your entire bank account.

01:19:31.000 The way this would work is I'm just going to dock you by 50 cents.

01:19:34.000 Like, I think that's actually the thing to see is it wouldn't be, if we're using the analogy, Tim, I think it would be less that we're not going to allow you to buy the milk at all.

01:19:43.000 It's going to be that instead of having $100, you now have $99.

01:19:48.000 So it's designed to change behaviors at the margin, and that's really where this is different from the current status quo, where they technically could also freeze your bank account entirely, couldn't buy any milk.

01:19:57.000 It's not that.

01:19:58.000 It's that you like to post we didn't quite like.

01:20:00.000 We see that because of your government issued ID tied to your social media profile.

01:20:05.000 It's not like we need to go to the court system for that.

01:20:07.000 It's not like you've done something criminal, but we're just going to dock you a little bit with a little so-called nudge in the right direction.

01:20:13.000 That's actually what's actually far more frightening.

01:20:15.000 But there's so much more here too, we can't even begin to imagine.

01:20:18.000 How about geo-locking transactions?

01:20:21.000 Meaning, let's say there is a political rally happening in DC, and the president says we're going to have a rally.

01:20:28.000 So then anybody who attends that rally, their ability to transact is shut off.

01:20:33.000 Within 50 miles, and just these individuals.

01:20:36.000 All of a sudden you can't buy train tickets, you can't buy milk, you can't buy pizza, you can't go to the McDonald's to buy food.

01:20:41.000 And for anybody who thinks that's a ridiculous example, I believe it's Bank of America that handed over records for anybody who was in Washington D.C.

01:20:46.000 on January 6, 2021 to Jack Smith, which is exactly not that far from what you're describing today.

01:20:53.000 So, but I think it's worth, I think for the people, there's a lot of people in New Hampshire that fit this category when I'm campaigning there, who come up and ask, like it'll be the first question they ask at a town hall is like, tell me about your position on CBDC.

01:21:04.000 I share why I think it's a risk, but I think it's important not to fall in the trap of thinking just because we've stopped that, you still have a government that can do a lot of these things to you.

01:21:12.000 It's just that it becomes a lot easier for the government to do these things to you when they can do it in small increments rather than Bank of America having to hand it over to a prosecutor who needed to go through probable cause.

01:21:23.000 A lot of this can just be done much more easily.

01:21:25.000 So even as we put the kibosh on the CBDC, and I will, and that's easy.

01:21:29.000 It's just simple executive action.

01:21:31.000 This is never going to happen in the United States.

01:21:32.000 I'll get that done in January of 2025.

01:21:34.000 A year from now, we're good.

01:21:37.000 It's still just, you know, it's like a water balloon.

01:21:39.000 It's like a hydraulic pump system.

01:21:40.000 You squeeze it here.

01:21:41.000 It's going to show up somewhere else.

01:21:43.000 And so we're always kind of one step behind.

01:21:45.000 And the reason people don't pay attention, ESG, CBDC, whatever, is the more you acronymize it, the more boring you make it.

01:21:53.000 The less likely the people are to pay attention to it.

01:21:58.000 We have time for one more second before we go to questions.

01:22:00.000 So I want to bring up this issue.

01:22:01.000 This is from Reuters.com.

01:22:03.000 Ohio House of Representatives overrides veto of bill banning gender-affirming care.

01:22:10.000 So one of the big cultural issues, of course, is the issue around transgender youth, transgender ideology, gender ideology as it pertains to sports.

01:22:18.000 And of course, one of the truths that you have listed is that there are two genders.

01:22:22.000 So, many of us were shocked to see that in Ohio, despite the fact that the House passed this bill saying no to child sex changes, the governor tried to veto that.

01:22:33.000 I'm curious your position on this, if you'd like to elaborate and break it down.

01:22:36.000 Yeah.

01:22:37.000 It happens to be my home state, actually.

01:22:39.000 Born, raised, and live in Ohio now as well.

01:22:41.000 So I was disappointed but not shocked, is how I would characterize it, based on the governor that we now have in Ohio.

01:22:47.000 I actually spoke to the Lieutenant Governor, sort of a what-the-heck call, who I actually have a good relationship with, and it turned out that he's also against the position the Governor took.

01:22:57.000 And so the Governor of Ohio is, you know, he's like the equivalent of, you know, he's like the Chris Sununu's, the Nikki Haley's, the, you know, Chris Christie's, you could say, of the world.

01:23:07.000 DeWine, the governor of Ohio, just falls into that category.

01:23:09.000 I mean, there's a brand of people who put a nice little R after their name, but aren't really thinking according to clear principles.

01:23:16.000 They're easily captured.

01:23:18.000 I think in this case, what my understanding was, and I haven't talked to the governor, but I've talked to a lot of people who are familiar with the situation, is a lot of people are making good money.

01:23:26.000 off of some of this gender conversion stuff and sold a myth that somehow this is going to cause suicides amongst kids and you're going to have blood on your hands and so what ended up happening was they just got him to veto it.

01:23:38.000 That was the answer.

01:23:40.000 I do want to get into your position but I want to address what you just said about the myth of the suicide and I'll use the numbers that are widely accepted.

01:23:47.000 There's something referred to as desistance.

01:23:48.000 Are you familiar with this concept?

01:23:50.000 Not really.

01:23:50.000 Desistance is not detransition.

01:23:52.000 Detransition is if someone identifies as trans, undergoes what they like to call gender affirming care, and then backtracks.

01:23:58.000 Detransitioning.

01:23:59.000 Desistance is when a child...

01:24:02.000 Who says that they're trans and experiences symptoms of gender dysphoria, but without any transition, eventually grows out of it.

01:24:08.000 Typically this happens around puberty.

01:24:10.000 The accepted rates are between 65 and 95% of young children who experience gender dysphoria will grow out of it, and they call this desistance.

01:24:19.000 That means, if we give the most benefit of the doubt we could to the gender ideology argument, 65, around 65% of children will desist.

01:24:30.000 Okay.

01:24:30.000 Their argument, however, is it's life-saving to transition these children, but suicide rates could be as high as 48%.

01:24:39.000 This means that you are increasing the likelihood of suicide by transitioning a child. 1.00

01:24:45.000 If there is a 2 to 1 chance the child will desist, do not transition them and then give them a 50% chance of suicide.

01:24:52.000 Yes, it is a fact that suicide rates go up after they transition.

01:24:56.000 I cover this extensively on my podcast.

01:24:57.000 I've had de-transitioners on my podcast, people that have gone through with the procedure. 1.00

01:25:02.000 You know, got the bottom surgery, as they call it, and then woke up one day and realized their entire lives were a lie.

01:25:07.000 And to hear those stories, I mean, it's incredible.

01:25:10.000 It's a true evil and it is being backed by Big Pharma.

01:25:13.000 There is a lot of money, obviously, with these procedures, the drugs, the puberty blockers that they're putting them on, Lupron.

01:25:18.000 And it's a part of a larger problem, something that I'm obviously very passionate about in terms of people not being educated and being sold lies and then going through a very radical route via Big Pharma to earn money.

01:25:31.000 I don't know how far you want to go with this because I see a link to transhumanism.

01:25:35.000 I see a link to eugenics.

01:25:36.000 I see the rise of autism also linked to a lot of this as well.

01:25:39.000 There's a lot of different components that we should really talk about.

01:25:42.000 And I think more importantly, especially when it comes to the kind of chemical biological war against human beings.

01:25:48.000 When you look at Male hormones and women's hormones, they're being dysregulated.

01:25:53.000 They are being directly attacked.

01:25:55.000 Fertility is being directly attacked by a lot of forces outside of us.

01:25:59.000 How can we address a larger, what I see clearly, a depopulation agenda that has clearly been put in play and being used against us right now?

01:26:09.000 To wrap it all together, I suppose, as president, what could you do to address these issues around gender ideology and even a decline in fertility?

01:26:18.000 Oh, so those are, I think there's a couple different issues.

01:26:21.000 I mean, gender ideology, a lot of this is being foisted through the Department of Education, right?

01:26:24.000 So the Department of Education actually uses the federal money as a noose to get local schools to adopt ideologies that the Department of Education decides are the acceptable ones.

01:26:35.000 Keep in mind, the origin of the Department of Education, people sometimes forget, was to prevent southern schools in southern states from siphoning money away from predominantly black school districts to white ones, but it's come somehow That institution has taken on its purpose to force these radical gender and in some cases racial ideologies also onto local schools.

01:26:54.000 So as it relates to the schools and the ideology piece of it, a lot of this is the head of the snake, the Department of Education.

01:26:58.000 A lot of it violates existing civil rights laws and otherwise.

01:27:02.000 So enforcing the laws in the books combined with actually shutting down the Department of Education is a pretty good start.

01:27:08.000 Now as it relates to what I see as an appropriate place for a federal, you could talk about how Reagan did it using, you could talk about technically using, how do we get set the drinking age at 21?

01:27:19.000 It was a 1984 law that effectively says you don't get highway funds unless you adopt this particular set of laws that set the drinking age at 21.

01:27:26.000 But forgetting about the legal mechanics and just as a matter of policy what we want in this country.

01:27:32.000 If you're not 18 years old, you should not be getting any chemical castration or genital mutilation just as you

01:27:40.000 can't get a tattoo just as you can't have an addictive drink of alcohol.

01:27:44.000 In some eye views we do live in a free country.

01:27:46.000 If you're an adult, a fully grown adult, you're free to dress how you want.

01:27:50.000 You're free how to identify how you want as long as you're not harming anybody else.

01:27:54.000 Don't expect us to change the way we compete in women's sports. 1.00

01:27:56.000 Don't expect to change the way we label our bathrooms, to change our language.

01:27:59.000 But if you want to live your life the way you want, as long as you're not hurting somebody else with a presumptive expectation that the rest of society bends to your delusion, you're free to do so.

01:28:09.000 But kids aren't the same as adults.

01:28:11.000 And so I think protecting children is a policy position we've already well accepted in this country.

01:28:16.000 And so the same logic and the same mechanism we use to prevent you from drinking by the age of 21, that we prevent you from getting a tattoo by the age of 18, you should not be undergoing genital mutilation or chemical castration as a minor in this country.

01:28:27.000 And I think there's a pretty broad consensus around that.

01:28:29.000 And I want to add to this, I think it's interesting because when it comes to the issue of drinking, you can have a drink at the age of 21 and be fine.

01:28:36.000 You can have a drink at the age of 31 and be fine.

01:28:38.000 It's alcoholism that's bad.

01:28:40.000 But if at the age of 21 you decide to undergo permanent and irreversible surgery and that was a mistake, you can't come back from that.

01:28:46.000 That's right.

01:28:46.000 So there is a serious challenge in how we deal with an issue like this because I don't want people to take their lives.

01:28:52.000 I think that's horrifying.

01:28:53.000 But we did have a guest on the show.

01:28:55.000 Who said that she thought she was a man.

01:28:59.000 She believed the gender ideology, she was being fed on the internet. 0.99

01:29:02.000 And she talked to, I think she said she talked to her brother.

01:29:05.000 And he said, get your hormones checked first. 0.96

01:29:08.000 You likely have a hormone imbalance.

01:29:11.000 So instead of adopting the gender ideology and taking testosterone, when she went to the doctor and got her hormones checked, it turns out that she did have a hormone imbalance, so they prescribed her female hormones.

01:29:23.000 She said almost instantly, gender dysphoria disappeared, and she was in alignment with her own body.

01:29:29.000 Yeah.

01:29:29.000 And so my concern is, if someone like that were to undergo a surgery and then regret it later, I'm not going to pretend to know what a doctor- Can I just say one word about this guy?

01:29:38.000 I don't know this person or this individual.

01:29:40.000 But there is a really small number of... So I say there are two genders, and it's a clear point. 1.00

01:29:47.000 There is a small number of people in the general population who have chromosomal abnormalities.

01:29:52.000 So we have, you know, what, 23 pairs of chromosomes.

01:29:57.000 Two of them are sex chromosomes.

01:29:58.000 One is X and Y if you're a man, X and X if you're a woman. 0.89

01:30:01.000 But there are some people who are born with XYY or XXY, and that's like a real thing.

01:30:07.000 That's grounded in truth.

01:30:08.000 It's not made up.

01:30:08.000 It's in your genetics.

01:30:10.000 One is called Kleinfelter syndrome.

01:30:12.000 One is called Jacob syndrome.

01:30:14.000 These are exceedingly rare.

01:30:16.000 We're talking about one in thousands at a much lower rate.

01:30:20.000 So in those particular cases, yes, those are instances of what you will call intersex, which is a different phenomenon than trans.

01:30:29.000 But what's happened is, let's take those rare cases to one side, and I don't know if this person you had here had such a thing or not, I would have said, not just go check your hormones, go actually get a genetic test and actually understand.

01:30:41.000 Are you one of the rare people with one of these chromosomal abnormalities?

01:30:44.000 It's inborn.

01:30:46.000 But for the purpose of this discussion in our modern politics, I don't think that this pertains to public policy.

01:30:51.000 Take that off the table.

01:30:52.000 That exists, and we're going to acknowledge that.

01:30:53.000 That's like a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of the population.

01:30:55.000 It's always existed.

01:30:56.000 It's a chromosomal abnormality. 0.80

01:30:58.000 For the rest of people, transgenderism, the belief that your gender does not match your biological sex, that if you're XX but you believe you're a man, it is a mental health disorder.

01:31:10.000 And it needs to be treated as a mental health disorder through mental health care, which often isn't covered by private health insurance.

01:31:15.000 A lot of this is through pharmaceutical intervention.

01:31:17.000 They prefer pill-pushing behaviors as an alternative.

01:31:20.000 Or people who run surgery centers prefer surgery, peddling surgery as an alternative.

01:31:24.000 This is a mental health condition.

01:31:26.000 And once we see it that way, we realize the compassionate thing to do is from a standpoint, because I think we've gotten put into this box of being somehow antipathic because of adopting this set of views that I think seems like most of us share.

01:31:39.000 I don't think the compassionate thing to do for that kid is to affirm that kid's confusion.

01:31:42.000 That's not compassion.

01:31:43.000 That is cruelty.

01:31:44.000 And I think we should actually feel that.

01:31:46.000 It shouldn't be just a thing we say.

01:31:47.000 We should acknowledge that and act with the compassion to say that kid's going through a struggle.

01:31:50.000 Help the kid get through the struggle.

01:31:52.000 That's what we should be doing.

01:31:53.000 Not surgically operating on them and chemically castrating them. 0.96

01:31:57.000 You pointed out that it is a mental health disorder.

01:31:59.000 It is listed in the DSM-5 as a mental health disorder.

01:32:02.000 This is an academic statement.

01:32:04.000 This is not meant to be invective.

01:32:06.000 But there are many people that I speak with who are liberal or Democrat that get offended when I point out the fact that it is listed in the DSM-5 as a mental health disorder.

01:32:14.000 And my argument is, there's another mental health disorder called PICA.

01:32:18.000 Are you familiar with this?

01:32:19.000 No.

01:32:20.000 It's where people eat things that aren't food.

01:32:22.000 We don't affirm these things.

01:32:23.000 We try to help these people, because I agree with you, as you said, to tell someone eating pennies is something they should do is cruelty to them.

01:32:32.000 See, I think that one of the things I would say, if I was talking to someone on the left on this who finds that offensive, is, isn't that really stigmatizing mental health disorder?

01:32:41.000 To say that you consider it so offensive to have a mental health disorder, that that should trigger the fact that you have a mental health condition.

01:32:50.000 To say that that's in such a category, that it is so offensive that you said such a thing about me, I think the compassionate thing to do is actually recognize that there are many Americans who go through a lot, especially now more than even 30, 40 years ago.

01:33:00.000 Social media and otherwise playing the loss of purpose, the loss of faith.

01:33:03.000 We can go deeper on that.

01:33:05.000 Yes, there are all kinds of mental health conditions that are rampant in the United States of America today.

01:33:10.000 We should have empathy towards people who suffer from those mental health conditions.

01:33:12.000 Figure out how we're going to address that.

01:33:14.000 Bring back psychiatric institutions.

01:33:16.000 Bring back mental health institutions. 0.98

01:33:17.000 Address the violent wave of violent crime across this country.

01:33:21.000 But we're not able to talk about that because now what you've actually done is abandon your left-wing, crony, quasi-compassionate instinct or supposedly compassionate instincts to actually just say, we're demonizing you because you have a mental health condition as opposed to saying, that's the truth of what's happening here.

01:33:37.000 That's what I find odd about that left-wing reaction.

01:33:39.000 The explosion of transgenderism, though, what we've seen over the last ten years, I would say, is definitely—these people are not being born with a mental disorder. 0.92

01:33:47.000 What's happening is they are being given a mental disorder. 0.94

01:33:49.000 Conditioned into it, yeah.

01:33:50.000 It's almost like a Munchausen by proxy, societal Munchausen by proxy, where you have teachers that are conditioning them, you have parents on the internet that want to be seen as accepting, and they're training their children.

01:33:59.000 They're confusing their children.

01:34:00.000 It's actually systematic abuse.

01:34:02.000 And the way you know that's true, Candice, is actually you look at, in COVID-19, they would talk about this coefficient, R-squared, whatever fancy way of saying how fast a virus spreads from person to person.

01:34:13.000 The R-squared rate for Transgender. 0.86

01:34:16.000 Exactly.

01:34:17.000 And a given school where a kid starts to identify as a gender different than their biological sex is arguably far greater than it was for COVID-19.

01:34:24.000 0% in my high school.

01:34:25.000 And now it's like 1 in 4.

01:34:26.000 It's not linear.

01:34:27.000 It's like an exponential curve.

01:34:29.000 So usually around this time, we would go to our Super Chats.

01:34:32.000 I will go through these.

01:34:33.000 We'll grab a few good questions.

01:34:35.000 But as we're setting up the event, Of course.

01:34:37.000 The events team over at TimCast was like, we're gonna ask people to submit questions, and then we'll get them to ask the questions, and I said, I don't think Vivek wants to do that.

01:34:45.000 I think we should just grab random people and let them ask their questions.

01:34:48.000 Yeah, I don't like pre-screening.

01:34:49.000 Yeah, I said, I think we should just have real questions, whatever they may be, and I'm pretty sure we can handle it, so we're gonna go.

01:34:54.000 I mean, I'm not ready for Xi Jinping if I can't handle some audience questions.

01:34:57.000 But look, it's fascinating.

01:34:58.000 Every other political campaign is, give us the questions beforehand, because we don't want to look bad on TV.

01:35:03.000 So we're just going to go for it.

01:35:05.000 I think Phil Labonte, if all that remains is here, he's going to be helping.

01:35:09.000 Hello.

01:35:10.000 Hey.

01:35:10.000 There we go.

01:35:11.000 How you doing, everybody?

01:35:12.000 Very nice.

01:35:12.000 It's Phil's discretion, I guess, right?

01:35:14.000 So what we're going to do is, young Andrew here is going to grab you, if you put your hands up.

01:35:19.000 There you go.

01:35:20.000 We're going to have one person waiting here.

01:35:22.000 One person is going to come up here and ask the question.

01:35:24.000 When this person gets done, you can go ahead and move on.

01:35:27.000 We'll move on like that.

01:35:28.000 Everyone okay with that?

01:35:29.000 I'm okay with it.

01:35:30.000 Everyone okay with that?

01:35:31.000 Yes.

01:35:32.000 Thank you very much.

01:35:33.000 Andrew, go ahead.

01:35:35.000 What's your name?

01:35:36.000 Drew.

01:35:38.000 This question's for Vivek, but Candice, feel free to add in since you've done a lot of journalism on the topic.

01:35:44.000 I speak not only for myself, but for countless others without a voice and parents that had to bury their children too early.

01:35:56.000 How will you achieve tangible accountability for those permanently damaged by the COVID-19 vaccines?

01:36:04.000 When will it happen?

01:36:05.000 And why is it important to you?

01:36:07.000 Army Sergeant Retired Drew, thank you.

01:36:10.000 Drew, thank you for your service to this country.

01:36:16.000 Thank you, Drew.

01:36:17.000 I'll say a couple of things, and you're right.

01:36:19.000 Candace has been ahead of the curve on this issue for the last several years.

01:36:23.000 But I'll tell you what we can do.

01:36:24.000 You can't change the past, but you can at least make sure that where there has been injury, there must be justice.

01:36:29.000 And I think, as far as I know, I'm the only presidential candidate to pledge to do this.

01:36:33.000 I will require Congress for this one.

01:36:36.000 I'll try to be clear, but it will require Congress.

01:36:39.000 I will repeal The special liability exemptions that pharmaceutical companies enjoy in this country.

01:36:47.000 It is dead wrong, and it is unjust.

01:36:50.000 Normally, any product that's sold to you, if it harms you, you can sue the manufacturer.

01:36:55.000 Except for vaccine manufacturers.

01:36:57.000 Why?

01:36:57.000 Crony capitalism.

01:36:59.000 Pharmaceutical industry lobbying. 0.96

01:37:01.000 It's disgusting.

01:37:01.000 And actually, I love Reagan as a president for a lot of things that he did.

01:37:04.000 He was wrong on this one.

01:37:05.000 And actually, closing the psychiatric hospitals was the same thing.

01:37:08.000 Reagan was actually pretty good at getting lobbied by the pharmaceutical industry.

01:37:11.000 People will get mad for me saying that.

01:37:12.000 It's just a fact.

01:37:13.000 It doesn't take away from his other accomplishments.

01:37:15.000 So that's number one.

01:37:16.000 Number two relates specifically, this one doesn't require Congress.

01:37:19.000 I'm going to do it in my capacity as Commander-in-Chief for our U.S.

01:37:22.000 military, especially for you as someone who served.

01:37:25.000 That's why I'm adding this extra element to this.

01:37:27.000 Anybody who lost their job in the U.S.

01:37:30.000 military for making what for many of those young men is obviously the right choice, young men and women alike, is that you will have your position restored with full back pay times one and a half.

01:37:43.000 That's something I'm committed to do as the next president of the United States as well.

01:37:47.000 And make sure something like this never happens again.

01:37:50.000 So those are two examples of tangible things I'll be able to deliver you.

01:37:52.000 And I'd like to give the obligatory for our friends over at YouTube.

01:37:56.000 Make sure you talk to a trusted medical health professional and not podcasters about how to take care of your health needs.

01:38:01.000 Great.

01:38:02.000 But thank you so much for your question.

01:38:03.000 There's so many people that have been injured and hurt here and they don't have a voice, so thank you for being that voice.

01:38:08.000 Did you have a follow-up, Candice?

01:38:10.000 Yeah, no, I just wanted to add on to it just to make sure that people understand this is the issue I'm the most passionate about.

01:38:14.000 I have an entire show called A Shot in the Dark to educate people.

01:38:17.000 It was not the COVID-19 vaccine first.

01:38:19.000 It's all of the vaccines and people are not aware of what the ingredients are, are not aware that the FDA inserts.

01:38:25.000 I created the show.

01:38:26.000 I do not use weird sources.

01:38:28.000 It's the CDC website and the FDA inserts that warn you of what can happen if you take these vaccines.

01:38:34.000 It's important for people to understand the history of the illnesses that you think you're fearful of, that you have no idea.

01:38:40.000 Mumps, measles, rubella, people don't know anything about these diseases and yet think that Big Pharma came and cleaned these things up.

01:38:46.000 It's a deep dive that I've done.

01:38:47.000 It's the most important work that I do and to know that these injuries, people getting sick, the seizures, the autoimmune diseases that we're seeing today, it is all related to the vaccines that they're giving children and it is directly related to the lobbying.

01:39:00.000 We've got more Big Pharma lobbyists than we do Have Congress members in D.C.

01:39:05.000 and that is entirely problematic.

01:39:07.000 But if you are a parent or if you are just a person that is not educated about vaccines, I created an entire series on it called A Shot in the Dark.

01:39:15.000 And as I said, we only use above the board because I am not a doctor.

01:39:19.000 You should not listen to me.

01:39:20.000 I am just a mother of three children.

01:39:22.000 I don't vaccinate any of my children, as people know.

01:39:25.000 But it's get educated, you know, be informed before you before you jump into getting vaccines.

01:39:31.000 You should understand what the risks are.

01:39:32.000 Yeah, Bill Gates definitely knows what's right for him.

01:39:34.000 Right, and I want to stress this point too, because a lot of people have also responded to us when we've said, you know, find a medical professional you trust.

01:39:39.000 Hey, if you go to a doctor, and they're a bad doctor, and they're not giving you good advice, you got a bad doctor.

01:39:43.000 Same is true for any plumber or carpenter.

01:39:45.000 There are good doctors out there that can tell you what you need to know, and I recommend you find them.

01:39:49.000 It's very empowering to question your doctor.

01:39:51.000 The first time you do it, you realize they're just people, and they'll answer your question.

01:39:54.000 Second opinions are a normal thing.

01:39:56.000 I don't trust fat doctors, but that's just me.

01:39:59.000 Anyway, shall we?

01:40:00.000 Hey, can I actually ask?

01:40:01.000 I've got two people here I was going to bring up earlier, I forgot.

01:40:05.000 If you guys have time, if we can pull up a chair.

01:40:06.000 We've got Jeff Shipley and Steve Holt, two state legislators here in Iowa who actually endorsed me in the last 24 hours.

01:40:14.000 And actually one of them I want to bring up.

01:40:16.000 A lot of these are state-level questions, two smart guys, strong constitutionalists.

01:40:22.000 Steve Holt in particular was a, I hope Steve doesn't mind me saying this, was a strong Ron DeSantis endorser and came over today as well.

01:40:30.000 So I'm glad you guys came over.

01:40:32.000 Came over to the light.

01:40:33.000 Eddie, you're here too!

01:40:34.000 I didn't know you were here.

01:40:35.000 Wow.

01:40:35.000 Three strong constitutionals.

01:40:37.000 Bring them up here.

01:40:37.000 We can just spread them out around here.

01:40:39.000 Have some lawmakers, especially we've got Iowans asking the questions.

01:40:42.000 These are the people they've elected.

01:40:44.000 Do we have any other questions?

01:40:45.000 Glad to have their support.

01:40:48.000 Good to see you guys.

01:40:49.000 Yeah, you can lend them your mic if they wanted to say anything.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:40:53.000 Same as mine, and then we could grab more questions as well.

01:40:55.000 Welcome to the freakin' show.

01:40:57.000 Should these gentlemen introduce themselves?

01:40:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:41:00.000 Do you guys wanna, let's, uh... Yeah, Eddie's right by you.

01:41:02.000 You wanna start with Eddie?

01:41:03.000 Oh, here we go.

01:41:03.000 Eddie!

01:41:04.000 Hey, Eddie.

01:41:04.000 Eddie was the first one to endorse me.

01:41:05.000 I appreciate that.

01:41:06.000 Hey, what's up, Iowa?

01:41:06.000 Lean in.

01:41:07.000 We got you on the camera right here.

01:41:09.000 Hey, hey, what's up, Iowa?

01:41:11.000 That's all I got to say.

01:41:14.000 I think technically I have known Vivek longer than anybody here.

01:41:20.000 I followed this guy, I saw him on CNBC, and something told me, you know how we used to say back when we were kids, something told me to follow this dude.

01:41:27.000 I liked what you said, it wasn't about politics, and ever since then I've been following you, long since you... Woking Book Tour, I think it was.

01:41:36.000 Yes, and you signed that Woke When Vivek announced, I want to say March, February, he had a 0.1% name recognition.

01:41:44.000 Not approval.

01:41:44.000 Like nobody knew who this guy was.

01:41:45.000 And I said, you know what?

01:41:46.000 I'd love to hear from Stan.

01:41:48.000 When Vivek announced, I want to say March, February, he had a 0.1% name recognition.

01:42:00.000 Not approval.

01:42:02.000 Like, nobody knew who this guy was.

01:42:03.000 And I said, you know what?

01:42:05.000 If you drop this guy in Iowa, his message is going to resonate.

01:42:09.000 And you have to hear him like four or five times because everyone else is well known.

01:42:13.000 But I just knew that this message would begin to resonate.

01:42:16.000 So thank you, man.

01:42:17.000 I appreciate the support.

01:42:19.000 Good guys.

01:42:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:21.000 Eddie Andrews.

01:42:21.000 I represent Johnston, Urbandale, Saylorville.

01:42:26.000 And a little bit of Southwest Zankeny right here locally in Polk County. 0.87

01:42:30.000 Good man.

01:42:31.000 Steve Holt, you always want to say a quick hello, but before you take more questions, probably.

01:42:38.000 Good evening, everyone.

01:42:38.000 I'm Steve Holt.

01:42:39.000 I spent 20 years in the United States Marine Corps.

01:42:41.000 I've been in the Iowa House of Representatives.

01:42:43.000 I'll start my 10th year.

01:42:45.000 If you Google me, you'll find out I'm the guy that ran the bill that banned gender transition surgeries and hormone therapies in Iowa.

01:42:53.000 I'm also the guy that ran Constitutional Carry in Iowa.

01:42:56.000 You'll find I kind of do those things.

01:43:01.000 I had earlier endorsed Governor DeSantis early on.

01:43:05.000 I didn't know a lot about Vivek.

01:43:08.000 My decision today to endorse Vivek wasn't anything about Governor DeSantis, but rather his message has resonated with me.

01:43:17.000 We are having an identity crisis in this country because of the relentless attacks on our national identity by the left and by the mainstream media.

01:43:26.000 This is a 1776 moment, and as a United States Marine who fought for this country for 20 years, I'm not going to miss that moment, and I'm proud to be supporting it.

01:43:34.000 God bless.

01:43:35.000 Here we go.

01:43:37.000 We got a strong liberty-minded patriot here, too.

01:43:45.000 Greetings.

01:43:46.000 Well, hello.

01:43:47.000 I first just want to thank God and thank you guys.

01:43:48.000 It's an honor to be with so many amazing Americans here on this panel and in this room.

01:43:52.000 It really is a great privilege.

01:43:53.000 My name is Jeff Shipley.

01:43:55.000 I serve Iowa House District 87.

01:43:56.000 I'm in my sixth year as a legislature, and it's just very exciting to be a part of the caucus process and influence the national debate here.

01:44:03.000 Thank you, man.

01:44:04.000 Thank you.

01:44:06.000 Candace, if I don't get a picture with you, my wife's gonna kill me. 1.00

01:44:09.000 I will let you get a picture with me.

01:44:10.000 Two pictures.

01:44:13.000 Shall we grab some more questions?

01:44:14.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:44:17.000 Actually, I go by Eve Apologist on the Discord.

01:44:20.000 Hi, everyone.

01:44:20.000 Glad to be out here.

01:44:22.000 Good to see you again.

01:44:23.000 Thank you.

01:44:23.000 You're on number three now, but hello.

01:44:25.000 I know you see a lot of people, so I'm probably just, yeah, but I'm here.

01:44:29.000 Good to see you.

01:44:30.000 Thanks.

01:44:31.000 OK, so tough question for you today.

01:44:32.000 We're going to talk religion, OK? 0.97

01:44:35.000 Vivek, considering your experience attending Christian schooling while not identifying

01:44:39.000 as Christian, could you elaborate on how that experience aligned with your family's religious

01:44:43.000 beliefs and if you have faced any judgments or challenges from the institution or your

01:44:47.000 peers?

01:44:48.000 My concern is that as I prepare to get married and hopefully become a mother, that our family

01:44:53.000 may experience difficulties and even imposter syndrome as we venture into exploring private

01:44:58.000 and homeschooling options.

01:45:00.000 The same is true of the overarching focus on what are called Judeo-Christian values

01:45:04.000 time and time again and have me as a traditionalist wondering when the other shoe will drop for

01:45:10.000 me and my loved ones who are not religious yet share the same values from a secular viewpoint.

01:45:15.000 I know that your first truth is that God is real, and although I respectfully disagree with that solitary point, I would earnestly like to know if you think it's possible for families with a focus in secular humanism to have a similarly positive experience in religious education.

01:45:30.000 So, it's a great question.

01:45:38.000 I, first of all, think that the job of the U.S.

01:45:43.000 President is to swear an oath to the Constitution and to keep it.

01:45:46.000 That includes the First Amendment, which includes religious liberty.

01:45:50.000 The freedom of religious exercise, which includes the right not to practice a particular faith either.

01:45:56.000 And so that's squarely the job of the U.S.

01:45:58.000 President.

01:45:59.000 And I think that there was a lot of thoughtfulness in that question because, yes, I was the lone Hindu student in a Catholic high school in Cincinnati, Ohio, and I did take a lot away from that religious education, despite not converting to Catholicism at the end of it.

01:46:16.000 And so, my core belief system is that there's one true God.

01:46:20.000 God puts us here for a purpose.

01:46:22.000 It's our moral duty to realize that purpose.

01:46:26.000 That we're all equal.

01:46:28.000 God works through us in different ways, but we're all equal because God still resides in each of us.

01:46:33.000 That's the heart of my faith.

01:46:35.000 My Hindu faith.

01:46:37.000 I think there's deep compatibility with the values.

01:46:40.000 It's a different faith.

01:46:41.000 In a different theology.

01:46:43.000 But the value system, including the Judeo-Christian values that this country was founded on.

01:46:49.000 What do the Ten Commandments say?

01:46:50.000 I read them for the first time in ninth grade.

01:46:53.000 There's one true God.

01:46:53.000 Don't take his name in vain.

01:46:55.000 Observe the Sabbath.

01:46:57.000 Honor your parents.

01:46:59.000 Don't kill.

01:46:59.000 Don't lie.

01:47:00.000 Don't cheat.

01:47:00.000 Don't steal.

01:47:01.000 Don't commit adultery.

01:47:02.000 Don't covet.

01:47:03.000 Broadly.

01:47:04.000 In simpler terms.

01:47:05.000 That's what broadly they say.

01:47:09.000 If I, as a Hindu, can certainly find common purpose with those shared values, and I do, and I think those are Judeo-Christian values, I think this nation was, as a historical fact, founded on Judeo-Christian values, then I believe somebody who has a Kantian worldview, or pick your favorite secular ordering, can also find common cause with those values.

01:47:31.000 I believe it's easier to arrive at those values just mentally if you anchor yourself grounded in God.

01:47:37.000 I think it's actually a lot harder to get there through secular worldviews.

01:47:41.000 If you want to follow, you know, Immanuel Kant or whoever else, I think it's a harder path.

01:47:45.000 But to answer your question, can somebody who is secular, non-religious, agnostic, or atheist still find common cause with the shared value set that this country was founded on?

01:47:57.000 Absolutely.

01:47:58.000 And even more, even if you disagree with some of those values, do you have the right to live in this country?

01:48:03.000 And are you still protected by the same constitutional rights?

01:48:06.000 The answer to that is also absolutely yes in the United States of America.

01:48:10.000 And that's what it means not to run for pastor, and I would be certainly an odd choice to run for pastor of a Christian church, but that's not the job of the U.S.

01:48:20.000 President.

01:48:22.000 The job of the U.S. 0.94

01:48:23.000 President is to swear an oath to the Constitution and to keep it.

01:48:28.000 As far as I know, one of our conversations, Steve is a Christian, Eddie's a... were you a pastor?

01:48:35.000 You're a minister.

01:48:37.000 And I think that we're not here out of...

01:48:41.000 Our role to join the ministry together, but out of our shared commitment to the Constitution.

01:48:47.000 And so the answer to your question is yes.

01:48:50.000 And I am sharing with you always what my true convictions are.

01:48:53.000 We are one nation under God.

01:48:54.000 It's part of our creed.

01:48:56.000 I think part of what's happened in this country is we've turned God into a four-letter word, which I don't think should actually—is good for our culture.

01:49:02.000 I don't think it's good for kids.

01:49:03.000 I don't think it's good for national unity.

01:49:05.000 But that doesn't mean that if you're an atheist, somehow you're not welcome in this country.

01:49:10.000 I think that as long as you share the shared commitments to the Constitution, you're still an American and that's what matters.

01:49:14.000 So thank you.

01:49:14.000 I appreciate that.

01:49:15.000 Thank you.

01:49:16.000 How you doing?

01:49:17.000 Thank you.

01:49:21.000 How you doing?

01:49:21.000 What's your name?

01:49:22.000 Summer.

01:49:23.000 Summer?

01:49:23.000 Yeah, I'm nervous.

01:49:24.000 I might yak.

01:49:26.000 Okay.

01:49:28.000 On January 4th, a deranged individual named Dylan Butler went to the Perry High School.

01:49:34.000 He killed 11-year-old Amir.

01:49:36.000 He wounded seven others, including four students, three staffers, before killing himself.

01:49:45.000 I'm genuinely terrified.

01:49:48.000 Can we mandate the presence of armed staff members in public and private schools?

01:49:52.000 Schools contain America's most valuable resources and should not be soft targets.

01:49:58.000 There are many teachers, janitors, counselors, and school administrators that would be more than willing to receive training and obtain a conceal and carry permit to protect our children.

01:50:09.000 I want at least one armed staff member in the building before the school's doors open in the morning.

01:50:16.000 I mean, it's really a tragedy what happened here in Perry, Iowa.

01:50:22.000 And I think the worst tragedy of all was the fact that the reaction to it was... I mean, certainly from a national perspective, it was almost numb, actually.

01:50:31.000 It wasn't a national story.

01:50:32.000 It was a story here in Iowa.

01:50:33.000 I happened to be in Perry the morning when it happened.

01:50:37.000 We saw a bunch of ambulances, helicopters.

01:50:39.000 You knew something was going on.

01:50:40.000 The question was, were we going to cancel our event?

01:50:43.000 We canceled the political event, but we kept The event intact as a prayer session and an open discussion for people in the community.

01:50:49.000 It was amazing the number of people who came who otherwise wouldn't have just because they wanted to speak openly.

01:50:56.000 The short answer to your question is, I don't think one is sufficient.

01:50:59.000 That's just a logistical point.

01:51:00.000 I think we need a minimum of three armed security guards in every school across this country.

01:51:06.000 Some schools that are really large might benefit from four or five.

01:51:09.000 States that lack the funding to do it have a great place to start.

01:51:12.000 Shut down the Department of Education, return the money back to states, and for a tiny fraction of that, you could have three to four in every school across this country.

01:51:21.000 Steve, you were going to mention something?

01:51:22.000 Or Jeff, yeah.

01:51:24.000 I just want to tell you that...

01:51:25.000 There's a school district in Iowa that was going to, uh, they went through extensive training.

01:51:31.000 They were going to arm personnel, not teachers, but they were going to arm personnel.

01:51:34.000 They went through extensive training with law enforcement.

01:51:37.000 They were actually putting more rounds down range than police officers were.

01:51:41.000 The training was extensive.

01:51:42.000 They had lock boxes.

01:51:43.000 They covered every base.

01:51:44.000 It was amazing.

01:51:46.000 And then they weren't able to do it because the insurance company, we have unfortunately

01:51:49.000 about one insurance company in this state that insures schools, and they said we won't

01:51:55.000 insure you if you have armed personnel in the school.

01:51:58.000 And so the legislature in Iowa, we're working to try to address that and fix it.

01:52:03.000 We're looking at school resource officers, a lot of other issues, but absolutely trained

01:52:07.000 individuals that are trained properly in a school, that is your absolute best line of

01:52:12.000 defense and we're working on trying to make that happen in Iowa.

01:52:21.000 What's your name?

01:52:22.000 Hold on.

01:52:23.000 We had a follow-up to the question.

01:52:24.000 Sorry.

01:52:25.000 So this is certainly, I think, the most important issue we're facing with.

01:52:29.000 And what we're seeing among kids just represents the corruption of our nation and just the decay of where society has gone.

01:52:36.000 Because you can predict the future of a country just by looking at the kids.

01:52:41.000 This has been a hard issue for me because over two years ago, we had incident in a school district where a teacher was stalked and murdered by students, and the weapon was a baseball bat.

01:52:50.000 I think what I want to say is that this is a much larger pattern and the catastrophe in Perry, there's been a long, a very growing pattern of very violent behavior.

01:53:01.000 So there's a student in Ames beaten unconscious, a part of some strange race baiting exercise where You know, they wanted the autistic kid to say the N-word, and then they wanted to beat him unconscious.

01:53:13.000 And he had to leave the school in an ambulance.

01:53:15.000 And I can only imagine the trauma of a student having to witness that, and now the trauma of that student still being in the same building with those kids who perpetrated that horrific act of violence.

01:53:25.000 And it's much more severe than just this incident.

01:53:29.000 And armed security is a great way to prevent the symptom from manifesting.

01:53:34.000 But there's something much, much deeper going on in the hearts and minds of our children

01:53:39.000 where they're willing to commit these psychopathic acts.

01:53:43.000 So it's a very serious issue.

01:53:45.000 And it's much more widespread than just these events.

01:53:47.000 This is certainly a growing pattern.

01:53:49.000 The pattern appears to be growing worse.

01:53:50.000 And I'm truly frightened.

01:53:52.000 And I was having a conversation yesterday with our colleague Representative Bowden

01:53:56.000 about these issues.

01:53:57.000 And I just wanted to get on my knees and pray because we need as much help as possible

01:54:00.000 in navigating these issues and giving our children a life worth living and the meaning and the values.

01:54:07.000 So it's horrific, and yeah, armed security is certainly a great step in the right direction, but we need to go as deep as possible to help these kids through whatever they're suffering through.

01:54:15.000 My name is Jeremy.

01:54:21.000 My name is Jeremy.

01:54:23.000 So Vivek, I feel like this kind of goes along with the last question.

01:54:28.000 I feel like morale has been on a steep decline in this country for quite a long time.

01:54:33.000 I feel like mental health kind of plays into that and kind of going with the last question.

01:54:39.000 I believe a big reason for that is the American dream is just getting farther and farther out of reach for a lot of us.

01:54:49.000 So my question to you is, will you get foreign interest and corporate interest out of real estate?

01:54:55.000 And if so, how would you make that happen?

01:54:58.000 Sure.

01:54:58.000 I think with respect to China, I think it's a simple answer.

01:55:01.000 China's buying up land in this country.

01:55:03.000 They shouldn't.

01:55:04.000 Any CCP affiliate should not be buying land in the United States of America.

01:55:08.000 And that's an easy answer.

01:55:11.000 But I think there's something deeper going on in this country.

01:55:14.000 There is a sickness.

01:55:15.000 And I think that what happened in Perry, Iowa, that's a symptom Of a deeper void in this country, a void of purpose and meaning and identity.

01:55:28.000 And I'll be the first to say, I don't think a U.S.

01:55:29.000 president can alone fill that full void, but I think we can fill it partially with a national identity that we lack right now.

01:55:37.000 We're hungry to be part of something bigger than ourselves, yet we can't even answer what it means to be an American today.

01:55:46.000 And I think that's half the job of the next U.S.

01:55:48.000 president, actually.

01:55:50.000 We actually have had some great policy discussions today.

01:55:52.000 But I think half the job of the next U.S.

01:55:54.000 president, not a congressman or a senator, but the U.S.

01:55:57.000 president, is to revive our national character.

01:56:03.000 To answer who we actually are as Americans.

01:56:06.000 To fill that void of purpose and meaning with something other than wokeism, or transgenderism, or climatism, or covidism.

01:56:15.000 Otherwise, it's the same reason you see depression, anxiety, fentanyl, suicide, gender dysphoria.

01:56:23.000 These are symptoms of that deeper void of purpose and meaning.

01:56:28.000 And I do think part of the job of the U.S.

01:56:30.000 president is to get out of the way so that pastors and parents and teachers and coaches across this country can play their role, too.

01:56:37.000 But I'm stepping up and volunteering to play my part to revive that missing national identity in this country.

01:56:44.000 And yes, you're right.

01:56:45.000 People tend to be more proud of a country when they're making more money in that country.

01:56:49.000 I'm not this guy.

01:56:50.000 They really wanted me to be the fake optimist.

01:56:52.000 The American dream is alive and well.

01:56:55.000 I think that was actually literally a line of one of the other presidential candidates, but it's not.

01:57:00.000 It's alive and hanging on for life support is where we are, but I think it can be.

01:57:06.000 Well, again, and I think that that's going to take simple economic policies that at least grease the wheels for still filling that deeper hunger.

01:57:14.000 We're using our taxpayer money to pay people more to stay at home instead of to go to work.

01:57:18.000 Now, I talked earlier, when Tim asked the question about stimulating the economy, that's bad for the economy because that stops businesses from growing and filling open positions, which is this top obstacle to business growing.

01:57:28.000 But take the persons receiving the money.

01:57:31.000 Do you think it's actually good for them?

01:57:33.000 I mean, my generation, how old are you, man, if you don't mind me asking?

01:57:36.000 We're in a similar generation with a lot of us here, give or take.

01:57:42.000 We're the first generation, ours, that the parents of our generation are actually responsible still for the financial sustenance of people our age and younger.

01:57:53.000 For a majority of us.

01:57:53.000 That's the first time that's happened.

01:57:54.000 You think it's good for you to be in your parents' basement, playing video games, smoking pot?

01:57:58.000 Is that good?

01:57:59.000 Is that actually good for you?

01:58:00.000 Again, it's not compassion.

01:58:02.000 It's almost a form of cruelty, driving depression and anxiety and worse.

01:58:05.000 And so, that's where the economic malaise and the psychological malaise of this country go together.

01:58:11.000 And I do think it's going to take a president with fresh legs.

01:58:14.000 Coming in from the outside, seeing it as part of our responsibility to address that national identity crisis.

01:58:20.000 To get this right, and I hope I'm up for the job.

01:58:22.000 I think I am.

01:58:23.000 That's why we're doing this.

01:58:24.000 Thank you, man.

01:58:24.000 Usually around this time is when we wrap, but I think if everyone's cool with it, we'll maybe another half an hour to give you more time to answer some questions.

01:58:31.000 I'd love to see unemployment that you get a little, and then it scales down, and after six months it disappears.

01:58:36.000 Unless you get a job, and then you actually get paid a little bit more than when you weren't working.

01:58:40.000 Because we need to incentivize people to take the job.

01:58:43.000 We'll try and get as many questions as we can in, and we'll do something that the cable TV channels can't do, and go long, because we can.

01:58:50.000 I love that.

01:58:50.000 Got some more questions?

01:58:51.000 A lot of questions.

01:58:53.000 Why is graphene the best?

01:58:55.000 Question for Ian.

01:58:56.000 Why are you so cool?

01:58:58.000 It's mostly your endorsement, Ian.

01:58:59.000 It's this cool shirt that Tim bought me.

01:59:02.000 Oh, thanks, Phil.

01:59:03.000 What's your name?

01:59:04.000 Brad.

01:59:06.000 Thank you.

01:59:06.000 I'm nervous, too.

01:59:07.000 All right.

01:59:08.000 Don't worry.

01:59:08.000 You should be.

01:59:09.000 You're good?

01:59:09.000 You're fine.

01:59:11.000 You good?

01:59:12.000 I'm good.

01:59:14.000 I feel like you've been grilled for a few hours, so I was going to do a question, but I just want to give the first part, which is a compliment.

01:59:19.000 I'm continually impressed with your poison strength as the media seems to attack you.

01:59:24.000 I'm a combat veteran of the Marine Corps, and now I do neurosurgery for a living.

01:59:27.000 I know I don't look like it.

01:59:28.000 I have a sleeve tattoo, but I'll never get a job, right?

01:59:32.000 In both my careers, people like you have made great leaders.

01:59:34.000 So, thank you.

01:59:35.000 Thank you, man.

01:59:35.000 I appreciate that.

01:59:36.000 Thank you.

01:59:37.000 Thank you.

01:59:39.000 Thank you for your service to this country as well, my man.

01:59:41.000 I appreciate it.

01:59:42.000 What's your name?

01:59:43.000 Julie.

01:59:44.000 I just wanted to ask you your opinion on all this green energy stuff and the climate change stuff.

01:59:51.000 Because, honestly, I don't think the government should be telling me, you know, what kind of stove I should have.

01:59:56.000 And for some of us who live on a lower income, you know, the burdens that that kind of stuff would cause would be, you know, astronomical.

02:00:05.000 Yes.

02:00:06.000 Well, I'm going to say something that you're not supposed to say, even in the Republican Party, but it's the truth.

02:00:11.000 The climate change agenda is a hoax.

02:00:15.000 And here's the dirty little secret, it has nothing to do with the climate.

02:00:20.000 What it has to do with, I can almost at least prove it to you very quickly, the very people who are most opposed to the use of fossil fuels in the United States are also the ones who are perfectly fine-shifting those same carbon emissions to places like China in the name of stopping global warming.

02:00:36.000 You can't believe both those things at the same time.

02:00:39.000 Or the very people who are most opposed to fossil fuels are among those who are the most opposed as well to nuclear energy in the United States, which is the greatest form of carbon-free energy production known to mankind.

02:00:50.000 Again, you can't believe both those things at the same time if you're applying principles of logic.

02:00:56.000 But if you're subscribing to a quasi-religious cult, I won't even call it a religion, because the religion has withstood the test of time.

02:01:03.000 I would call this a cult.

02:01:05.000 Climate cult.

02:01:06.000 You can believe anything you want.

02:01:07.000 And they even have their patron saint, a modern, what they view Joan of Arc figure, a psychologically challenged individual known as Greta Thunberg, who they, you know, view as a modern Joan of Arc patron saint type figure.

02:01:19.000 It has all the qualities of religion.

02:01:20.000 Flogging yourself, gasto, self-punishment, engaging in the equivalent of wearing a hair shirt, and flogging yourself.

02:01:26.000 Many religions across cultures, Hinduism has a version of this too, is engaging in sort of bodily discomfort and harm to substitute for this self-punishment.

02:01:35.000 That's kind of what the climate religion is.

02:01:37.000 It has all of the elements of a religion except not having withstood the test of time, which is why I call it a cult.

02:01:42.000 Now, what am I going to do about it?

02:01:45.000 Any mandate from the federal government to even measure carbon emissions is out the door.

02:01:50.000 I think we're even measuring the wrong thing.

02:01:51.000 We should be measuring human health, economic mobility, prosperity, rather than this one arbitrary measure of carbon emissions.

02:01:58.000 And the problem is when you start measuring it, you actually have something that all four of us here are opposed to.

02:02:04.000 Is all kinds of strange things the federal government starts doing, like subsidizing people to capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, build pipelines, bury it in the ground.

02:02:11.000 You have all sorts of strange things like subsidizing electric vehicles.

02:02:15.000 I have no problem with somebody choosing to buy an electric vehicle because it looks cool or drives the way you want it to or whatever reason you want to, really.

02:02:22.000 Just don't expect me to pay for it, which is exactly what's happening today.

02:02:25.000 And by the way, if they can build a pipeline across your backyard without your consent to bury carbon dioxide in the ground, next up is your gas stove.

02:02:33.000 They'll come and take it, leave a $50 check in your mailbox.

02:02:36.000 That's eminent domain for you.

02:02:37.000 Or take your cow. 1.00

02:02:38.000 Or take your combustion engine vehicle.

02:02:41.000 And so this is a cult.

02:02:42.000 I think it's one of the greatest threats that we face in the United States of America to our sovereignty today is the global climate cult.

02:02:49.000 And it is shameful that I think it is outside of the Overton window of even the Republican Party to actually talk about it in the terms that I just did.

02:02:58.000 But we have to see that.

02:02:58.000 If you think COVID, it sort of has a similar pattern to it, but at least that came and went.

02:03:04.000 This one's here to stay.

02:03:06.000 I think that was just the practice round for the climate emergency that's coming up.

02:03:11.000 And actually, I've supposedly been the most censored presidential candidate according to this non-profit group, but one time when my social media account was outright locked, it's only happened once.

02:03:20.000 was when I stated certain hard facts about the climate movement.

02:03:23.000 Eight times as many people died last year of cold temperatures rather than warm ones.

02:03:28.000 The earth is more covered by green surface area coverage today because carbon dioxide is actually plant food.

02:03:35.000 And the reality is 98% reduction in the climate disaster death rate over the last century.

02:03:42.000 The number of people who die of climate related disasters, for every hundred who died in 1920, that number is two today.

02:03:48.000 That's due to advances powered by fossil fuels.

02:03:52.000 And so that's the inconvenient truth for the actual climate movement.

02:03:56.000 And it's going to take a leader with the spine at the top in the United States, not to do the waffly thing.

02:04:02.000 The Republican thing to do here is, why are we moving so quickly?

02:04:06.000 China's not doing stuff either.

02:04:08.000 I mean, these are sort of Nikki Haley type talking points or even other Republicans.

02:04:12.000 It doesn't matter.

02:04:13.000 That's the standard Republican line on these matters.

02:04:17.000 I think the right answer is actually to start with the truth.

02:04:22.000 This is not an existential risk to humanity.

02:04:24.000 Climate change has existed as long as the Earth has existed.

02:04:27.000 And we should not be focused on one metric of carbon dioxide emissions when people are dying more of bad climate change policies than they are of climate change itself.

02:04:36.000 And so the humane thing to do is to say no to this cult and yes to human flourishing and growth regardless of the carbon dioxide emissions that it results in.

02:04:45.000 That's what I would say.

02:04:45.000 Thank you.

02:04:46.000 The carbon itself is a very valuable asset, and there's going to be a mad dash on the air when people realize you can take carbon dioxide out of the air, turn it into graphene, you can take the methane out of the air, turn it into carbon dioxide, and then turn it into graphene, and then use it as a building material.

02:05:02.000 We need a global coalition so that we don't pull too much of it out of the air, because people are going to start harvesting that carbon dioxide, and I don't want to kill the trees.

02:05:09.000 Like you said, it is food for the greenery, so we need to find some sort of mediated stasis.

02:05:13.000 Right on.

02:05:14.000 So I hope that addressed your question.

02:05:16.000 I have one more thing I wanted to say.

02:05:17.000 I'm not from Iowa.

02:05:19.000 I've been here volunteering.

02:05:20.000 I'm from Nebraska.

02:05:21.000 But I wanted to say to everyone that is from Iowa, please caucus because it must be exciting to be a part of all of this and have candidates come.

02:05:29.000 We don't see anyone in Nebraska unless, you know, they're worried about that one electoral vote that we might give to the Democrats.

02:05:37.000 So we don't have a primary until May.

02:05:41.000 So if you are from Iowa, please, please, please caucus on the 15th.

02:05:45.000 Thank you.

02:05:45.000 And I appreciate that.

02:05:47.000 I'm going to use that as an opportunity, Tim.

02:05:49.000 I'd be remiss if I didn't say it tonight.

02:05:51.000 But but I mean, it is every person's vote in the Iowa caucus.

02:05:55.000 You could make the argument that it's like the equivalent of a million people in the impact that it has in actually selecting the next U.S.

02:06:04.000 president.

02:06:05.000 I laid it out earlier, and so I don't rehash our earlier discussion.

02:06:08.000 I believe we're being led by the system into a trap right now.

02:06:13.000 And I promise you I don't relish this job, but I'm here for a reason.

02:06:16.000 We've done over 390 events in Iowa.

02:06:20.000 That's more than all of the other candidates combined, I think, by a multiple.

02:06:25.000 We're not doing this for any reason other than the fact that I think our country requires, like right now, a leader who's actually able to take our America First movement to the next level, and who is not the subject of elimination, in the subject of an actively playing out plot that we can see in straight eyes.

02:06:43.000 And so I'm asking everybody in Iowa who is here to do the right thing for our country on January 15th, and I'm asking you to caucus for me.

02:06:51.000 And if you do, I think we're going to have a major surprise on Monday.

02:06:55.000 And I think we're going to do everything in our family's part and we're going to succeed at it to make sure that our country's best days are actually, not in some fake politician way, but in a true way actually still ahead of us.

02:07:08.000 So thank you everybody who comes out on Monday night to do that as well.

02:07:10.000 I appreciate it.

02:07:14.000 What's your name?

02:07:16.000 Elliot.

02:07:18.000 Candace, gentlemen, I appreciate y'all making it out here, braving the inclement weather.

02:07:23.000 So I got out of the Marine Corps about a year ago, largely due to how the current administration handled, as Ian so correctly frames it, our surrender in Afghanistan, as well as the way service members were treated in regards to the COVID vaccine mandate.

02:07:37.000 And though I appreciate your answer to the first question, Mr. Raviswamy, As Commander-in-Chief, do you have any plans as it relates to restoring Americans' trust in our military institutions, and do you intend on holding military leadership who implemented these disastrous policies accountable?

02:07:53.000 Yes.

02:07:54.000 And I think the way we're going to restore trust isn't by fake jingoism.

02:07:59.000 It's by actually acknowledging the failures and instituting accountability for those failures.

02:08:05.000 It comes on a couple of levels.

02:08:07.000 First is generations of foreign wars that have not advanced our interests.

02:08:11.000 Seven trillion of our national debt owed to the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan that palpably could just look at the results.

02:08:17.000 Twenty years later, for God's sake, the Taliban is still in charge. 0.95

02:08:20.000 Twenty years later, Iraq is a more broken country than we showed up, sending tens of thousands, about 15,000 of America's sons and daughters lives, sacrificed in those two wars, adding seven trillion to our national debt. 0.94

02:08:31.000 So yes, I do hold accountable the bipartisan foreign policy establishment, some of whom are back at it again, available on the Republican ticket to be voted for for U.S.

02:08:40.000 President, to be trotted back and to bring back a Dick Cheney vision for our foreign policy that should be relegated to the dustbins of history.

02:08:47.000 So yes, we need accountability.

02:08:49.000 I think we also need accountability in the nearer term for the self-hatred that our own military is perpetuating in our own ranks.

02:08:56.000 And there's a connection between these two.

02:08:57.000 I'm referring to the rise of sort of the woke infection in our U.S. 0.97

02:09:00.000 military ranks.

02:09:01.000 These are not two separate issues.

02:09:03.000 What happened is that General Mark Milley's of the world wanted to deflect the left-wing criticism.

02:09:10.000 Keep in mind, it was generally a Republican idea to favor the Iraq war.

02:09:14.000 The left used to hit him for that, to say, okay, well, we'll just say the magic words, systemic racism, white rage, whatever you want us to say, but go away.

02:09:21.000 We'll blow the woke smoke to deflect accountability for the institutional failure of the military itself.

02:09:28.000 How do we get this right, restore the true purpose of the U.S.

02:09:30.000 military?

02:09:31.000 What is it?

02:09:32.000 To win wars, to actually avoid wars through being strong, in protecting our own homeland right here at home, which is more vulnerable than it has ever been.

02:09:42.000 So I believe that the top purpose of the U.S.

02:09:44.000 military should be to protect Americans against threats, make our national defense spending directed towards our own national defense.

02:09:52.000 That includes cyber attacks, super EMP attacks that could take out our electric grid in a matter of days that we're more vulnerable to now than ever.

02:10:01.000 I do view it as an invasion on our own southern border, and I believe an outward-facing function for our U.S. 0.84

02:10:05.000 military at our border, as we talked about earlier, is an appropriate use of our military. 0.94

02:10:10.000 And that's how we restore trust.

02:10:12.000 I think people would be happy to serve this country if they knew it was actually to serve Americans, rather than to fight somebody else's war halfway around the world, so some Ukrainian kleptocrat can buy a bigger house. 0.95

02:10:22.000 That's not gonna happen on my watch, and I think that's how we restore trust.

02:10:25.000 Thank you.

02:10:28.000 Is Apoorva here?

02:10:29.000 My wife?

02:10:33.000 If Apoorva's here, bring her up at some point.

02:10:34.000 She's gonna come.

02:10:35.000 She's putting the kids to bed, but she wanted to make it for the end of this, so. 0.76

02:10:38.000 Shout out to Apoorva.

02:10:40.000 The generator.

02:10:40.000 What's her name?

02:10:41.000 Alex.

02:10:42.000 All right.

02:10:43.000 Nice to see everybody here.

02:10:45.000 Big fan of the show.

02:10:46.000 Big fan of Juvevac.

02:10:49.000 So in primary schools in Russia, they currently teach their students jabbing across before they ever teach a hook for two years.

02:11:00.000 In China, they have masculinity training for their young men.

02:11:05.000 If you look at the obesity rates in America, we've done a severe disservice to our youth in physical education, where traditionally you look at like the De La Salle program out in California back in the 1930s.

02:11:20.000 We were going to go a certain direction and then we flipped to another where kids can just, you know, opt out of PE.

02:11:27.000 What can you do to help make America's youth strong as president of the United States?

02:11:33.000 Yeah.

02:11:34.000 You know, I think that, let's put aside the presidential authority here.

02:11:37.000 I think that a lot of this should be driven by the states.

02:11:40.000 I'm a constitutionalist.

02:11:42.000 I believe that which is not reserved to the federal government is reserved respectively to the states and to the people.

02:11:48.000 And I believe that because they're not my, not my words.

02:11:50.000 They're the words in our constitution, in our 10th amendment.

02:11:53.000 But let's just talk about the broad policy.

02:11:55.000 I've actually just as a citizen advocated often for the SAT, standardized testing.

02:12:00.000 I think you have verbal and math.

02:12:01.000 They added a writing section.

02:12:03.000 I think it's not bad to bring back a physical fitness section as well.

02:12:06.000 Just measure it.

02:12:06.000 Different institutions can put different weight on what they want to weight it in.

02:12:10.000 Not all students, not all schools should weigh the math scores the same way as they weigh the reading score, as the same way they weigh the writing scores, the same way they weigh the physical fitness score.

02:12:18.000 But I think we should make it something worth aspiring to in this country.

02:12:22.000 So that avoids any kind of mandating or anything like that as a basic first step, just signifying.

02:12:27.000 We're measuring something because it's worth measuring.

02:12:29.000 Carbon emissions, not worth measuring.

02:12:31.000 Physical fitness in young people, worth measuring.

02:12:34.000 Right?

02:12:34.000 And so the things that you actually measure are the things that actually, presumably, matter.

02:12:39.000 We used to have the Presidential Fitness Test.

02:12:40.000 It was actually under, I think it was President Obama, and it might have been a little bit of a pet project of Michelle Obama, for whatever reason, to eliminate the Presidential Fitness Test.

02:12:48.000 That's not what it sounds like in the context of me saying it, of the U.S.

02:12:51.000 President, though we could determine the... I think it doesn't hurt for a president to disclose how many push-ups and pull-ups they could do, too.

02:12:56.000 It doesn't hurt.

02:12:57.000 But that's not what I'm talking about.

02:12:59.000 It refers to the presidential fitness test in junior high school that refers to a number of attributes of how you're able to perform on basic parameters of physical fitness that allows us to hold our system accountable and teachers accountable and schools accountable for how well we're doing on that metric just as well as how well or these days how poorly we're doing on the metrics of math or reading proficiency.

02:13:20.000 So I think that measuring it alone and making that a norm in this country would be a free, non-cost enhancing, non-liberty infringing way of actually doing what I think is good and important for our country.

02:13:33.000 And oddly enough, I don't think it's that odd actually, that's going to have a palpable impact, for the better, on the mental health epidemic in this country.

02:13:41.000 Actually, a lot of young kids are going to be mentally and psychologically a lot better off if we actually start just measuring and aspiring towards improved levels of physical fitness as well.

02:13:52.000 I think most of us know that intuitively.

02:13:55.000 It's definitely true from a data perspective as well.

02:13:57.000 So, that'd be my answer to your question and I do think, I've already been talking about it, people have asked me, why is this guy running for president?

02:14:03.000 What does this have to do with it?

02:14:04.000 Well, what it has to do with it is it still relates to that root cause and that loss of purpose in our country.

02:14:10.000 And I do think that measuring physical fitness is strictly a good step for our youth and including integrated into our schools and standardized testing.

02:14:17.000 Thank you, man.

02:14:18.000 Appreciate it.

02:14:19.000 Thanks.

02:14:20.000 Thank you.

02:14:21.000 Thanks.

02:14:22.000 Thanks.

02:14:23.000 What's your name?

02:14:24.000 Ryan.

02:14:25.000 Ryan.

02:14:26.000 Hey, Ryan.

02:14:29.000 So I've followed your campaign since basically the beginning.

02:14:34.000 And I love your message.

02:14:36.000 I think you could fix this country.

02:14:40.000 We've seen what they've done going after Donald Trump.

02:14:44.000 Indictments, even trying to remove him from the ballot in certain states.

02:14:50.000 My question is, how do I vote for Vivek Ramaswamy without sending the message that I am okay with what they are doing to Donald Trump?

02:15:04.000 I think your question weighs on the minds of a lot of people I met today.

02:15:09.000 What I saw in many of the rooms I was in was a sense of struggle with that question of loyalty.

02:15:15.000 And I think our loyalty, my loyalty, and I know Donald Trump's loyalty and the loyalty of the people participating in this caucus process is to this country.

02:15:22.000 So the question is what's right for the country.

02:15:24.000 Let's just agree that whoever you're going to vote for, that's what matters here.

02:15:28.000 Not loyalty to me, not loyalty to Trump.

02:15:30.000 It's loyalty to the United States of America.

02:15:35.000 I think if you want to, I'm going to be blunt about this.

02:15:38.000 I think if you want to save Trump and save this country, a vote for me is actually the way to go.

02:15:45.000 What they're doing to Donald Trump is wrong.

02:15:47.000 I have stood up against it at every step of this process, to the point of derision.

02:15:51.000 To the point of people have, there's, I mean, people have had all kinds of conspiracy theories about me, but one of them, and more popular ones, is that there's some kind of Trump plant.

02:15:59.000 That Trump and I had some kind of deal early on in this campaign to somehow eliminate Ron DeSantis, as though this was a worthy goal for a guy who's got other things to do in life than to focus on eliminating Ron DeSantis from contention.

02:16:10.000 No. 0.89

02:16:10.000 That was ridiculous. 0.89

02:16:13.000 I'm saying that I've been so strongly supportive of Donald Trump in the face of these prosecutions that even many people circulated nonsense like this. 0.86

02:16:23.000 I've stood up against, I went to the Miami courthouse, I've stood up against these persecutions.

02:16:26.000 For God's sake, I have actually written a FOIA demand and submitted it, Freedom of Information Act request, to know what Biden told Jack Smith, what Merrick Garland told Jack Smith, followed through on that, taken legal steps, and I hope we get accountability.

02:16:40.000 I think that we weren't, I wasn't planning on announcing this tonight, but might as well just say it.

02:16:43.000 I think tomorrow morning, if not by noon, by tomorrow morning in the next 48 hours, I am submitting an amicus brief to the Supreme Court, arguing for why they need to overturn Colorado's disastrous decision to try to keep Donald Trump off the ballot, because it's the right thing to do for this country.

02:17:04.000 As somebody who's been trained in the law, I feel like a sense of obligation to do that if somebody understands the Constitution.

02:17:09.000 It's my belief that every other Republican, myself included, needs to withdraw from any ballot that forcibly withdraws Donald Trump from the primary ballot, because that's how you actually stop the brazen election interference in our own primary.

02:17:23.000 If every other Republican nullifies Maine, then it has no impact.

02:17:26.000 So that's the length to which I've gone, and so people know this about me when I'm saying this.

02:17:31.000 At this point, it is my firm conviction that this system, which has ratcheted up the threat level one by one to eliminating Donald Trump from the ballot, will stop at nothing.

02:17:46.000 I'm increasingly certain it will stop at nothing to keep this man away from the White House.

02:17:52.000 So I think the best way to literally save Trump is to at least have arguably somebody in the system might actually even, some elements of it, prefer less than Donald Trump for what I'm bringing to Washington DC.

02:18:05.000 And I think that's also what this country requires.

02:18:08.000 I think they duped him at many steps.

02:18:10.000 They told him you can't fire those civil service bureaucrats because of so-called civil service protections. 0.94

02:18:15.000 Read the law.

02:18:17.000 Those civil service protections do not apply to mass firings.

02:18:21.000 Mass firings are what I'm bringing to the D.C. 0.97

02:18:23.000 bureaucracy.

02:18:24.000 So I will honor the man, and I have, and I think it's the right thing to do, and I will do it as the next president, because he kept us out of foreign wars that didn't advance our interests, and he grew this economy.

02:18:33.000 Those are no two small accomplishments.

02:18:36.000 But our America First agenda does not belong to Donald Trump, just as it doesn't belong to me or anybody else up here.

02:18:42.000 It belongs to you.

02:18:44.000 To us.

02:18:44.000 To we, the people of this country.

02:18:46.000 And we owe it to this country to make sure that movement does not end with Donald Trump, which is what the system has set up to do.

02:18:53.000 I believe we're being led into a trap right now, and it pains me to watch it.

02:18:58.000 So I'm asking you to do the right thing for this country, if you want to support Donald Trump even.

02:19:03.000 Or what he represents is actually more precise.

02:19:06.000 The right way to do that to see this through for the country is a vote for me in this Iowa caucus on Monday.

02:19:13.000 And I think people are there's an emotional component to this.

02:19:18.000 I actually think we need to vote with our brains.

02:19:20.000 There's times when you vote with your heart.

02:19:21.000 There's times when you vote with your brain.

02:19:24.000 Your heart can get you to the doorstep of why America First matters, but now voting with your brain is asking, are you going to look back?

02:19:30.000 Here's the thought experiment that I'd like for every voter in this state to go through.

02:19:34.000 And I think a lot of them are considering myself for Trump heading into Monday.

02:19:40.000 Do you think you're going to look back a year from now and say, whatever God forbid happens this year, say we were shocked by what happened?

02:19:48.000 I mean, last time it was a man-made pandemic and a tech rigged process leading up to an election that We all know it was absolutely an unfair election.

02:19:59.000 That was last time.

02:20:02.000 What do you think they're going to do this time?

02:20:03.000 Are you going to be shocked next January and say, oh, I was shocked that that happened?

02:20:07.000 Or are you going to say we should have seen that coming?

02:20:10.000 And I think it's exactly going to play out, if it's not me in the nomination slot, it's going to play out exactly the way I laid out.

02:20:15.000 It's going to be Trump in a two-horse race versus a puppet who they can control.

02:20:20.000 One way or another they're going to eliminate him.

02:20:21.000 We're going to look back and say that should have been obvious, when in fact right now people are behaving as though it's not.

02:20:27.000 And we're going to regret the result.

02:20:28.000 And I don't think there's a good chance.

02:20:29.000 I don't think we have a country left, not the same country that we know and love.

02:20:33.000 And so we owe it to this country and to our founding fathers to make sure the 250-year experiment does not end this year and that we have yet another 250 years and then some left to go.

02:20:42.000 That's why I'm asking you to vote for me.

02:20:44.000 If you want to save Trump and save this country, vote for me.

02:20:47.000 And I hope that gets you to the place where you make the right decision for this country.

02:20:51.000 Thank you, Matt.

02:20:51.000 I think we have enough time for two more.

02:20:54.000 Yeah.

02:20:55.000 Two more questions.

02:20:58.000 What's your name?

02:20:59.000 Tim.

02:21:00.000 Good name.

02:21:00.000 It's a great name.

02:21:02.000 It's OK.

02:21:02.000 Hi, my name's Tim, and I have a question about civic duty voting.

02:21:07.000 I'm trying to get my friend to get on the train, but he likes a lot of the most of your things except for civic duty voting.

02:21:14.000 And so I have his concerns.

02:21:17.000 He just doesn't think it has a point to it.

02:21:21.000 Young adults voting.

02:21:23.000 There's no other way to get young Americans to vote besides making it harder.

02:21:27.000 The test will only hurt the Americans who don't have access to good education or

02:21:31.000 resources. So, poorer communities is what he said. Also, you're an adult at 18.

02:21:36.000 You can be tried by court.

02:21:38.000 You can go into the workforce and be a part of the community. You should be

02:21:42.000 allowed to vote without taking a test like an American citizen is what his 0.78

02:21:45.000 concerns are. Cool. So, what I would tell your friend is, first of all, I would say

02:21:52.000 this in a friendly way, relax, in the sense that this, anything touching this

02:21:57.000 would require a constitutional amendment.

02:21:58.000 Thank you.

02:21:59.000 But why don't we talk about forgetting the plumbing of how we accomplish it?

02:22:04.000 Let's at least see if we agree on the spirit of it, which is that in order to be a full citizen of a country, and citizenship is not about what you get.

02:22:14.000 It's actually about what you give.

02:22:15.000 Women didn't have citizenship, didn't have voting rights in this country. 1.00

02:22:18.000 People think it means, what do you get?

02:22:19.000 You get the right to vote?

02:22:20.000 No, women were citizens all along, didn't have the right to vote. 1.00

02:22:23.000 So if you actually trace our history, what's the origin of citizenship?

02:22:26.000 Citizenship is about allegiance.

02:22:27.000 It's about duty.

02:22:28.000 It's actually why I don't believe that dual citizenship is a coherent concept in the United States.

02:22:33.000 It's all about, or in any country, it's about allegiance.

02:22:35.000 It's about, and with allegiance comes a duty.

02:22:38.000 So with that said, The basic point I was making is, what's your basic duty, at least, we should expect of someone to a country?

02:22:47.000 Some people will make cases for mandatory military service.

02:22:49.000 I don't.

02:22:51.000 But I think the basic table stakes of your duty to this country should be to know the bare minimums about this country and the Constitution and our history.

02:23:01.000 It's mainly just the Constitution and the way the government works.

02:23:04.000 And we know that's an intuition we already track, because if you're an immigrant to this country, we say, you can't vote. 1.00

02:23:10.000 You can have all kinds of other benefits.

02:23:12.000 We give all kinds of benefits to illegal immigrants to this country. 1.00

02:23:14.000 There's all kinds of things we do.

02:23:15.000 But at least when things have worked the way they're supposed to, you can't vote in this country until you become a naturalized citizen, which requires you to pass a basic civics test.

02:23:27.000 And so if we require that of a legal immigrant to this country before they cast a ballot at the ballot box, I think it's reasonable for every high school senior who graduates from high school to at least know the bare minimums about the country that every immigrant has to know as a condition for becoming a voting citizen of this country before the age of 25. 0.82

02:23:46.000 I think it's a reasonable thing to ask.

02:23:47.000 Now, if you've had life experience as an adult, I'm willing to drop it.

02:23:50.000 If you say that you've served in the military or first responder role, great.

02:23:53.000 That's a different way of having allegiance or service to a country.

02:23:56.000 But the bare minimums, so nobody has to take a civics test there, but the bare minimums are to say that you have some knowledge of the country of which you're a citizen.

02:24:06.000 I was here in Iowa, and so this actually generated a lot of controversy.

02:24:08.000 My campaign staff hated me for rolling out this idea because it didn't poll well.

02:24:14.000 I said, well, at least can we poll it?

02:24:18.000 I said, yeah, I'd love to see the data.

02:24:19.000 It did not poll well.

02:24:20.000 I came back and I still rolled it out in the speech I was planning to because I think it's the right thing for the country.

02:24:25.000 So I'm aware that it has not been a friend to my vote gathering process in this campaign.

02:24:33.000 But I think people have come around to it, actually, over the course of the year.

02:24:38.000 Some of my other positions have had the benefit of this too, my position on Ukraine or otherwise.

02:24:41.000 But in this one, it so happens I think people have come around to it.

02:24:44.000 A 10-year-old girl in Iowa, her name is Lena, she came to one of my events having heard about this controversy.

02:24:51.000 She heard me take a beating from it from mostly on the left.

02:24:53.000 They claimed it was Jim Crow or something like this.

02:24:55.000 Everything's Jim Crow. 0.93

02:24:56.000 If you're a 10-year-old and somebody says Jim Crow, I think you might think it, like, refers to air.

02:25:00.000 It just permeates and it's everywhere.

02:25:01.000 But anyway, she heard a lot of this criticism, and she printed out the 100-question civics test.

02:25:05.000 Most adults in the United States would fail it if they took it right now.

02:25:08.000 60% is a passing score.

02:25:10.000 She's 10 years old.

02:25:11.000 She comes out with a handwritten note showing me and telling me that she got 100%.

02:25:15.000 100 out of 100 at the age of 10.

02:25:18.000 So I don't think this is something that results in some socioeconomic struggle.

02:25:21.000 If this 10-year-old girl in Iowa can know the first thing, I mean questions like, how many branches of government are there?

02:25:26.000 What branch of government does the U.S.

02:25:28.000 President lead?

02:25:29.000 I don't think it's too much to ask an 18-year-old to know what branch of government the U.S.

02:25:33.000 President leads before they show up at the ballot box to cast a vote for the U.S.

02:25:36.000 President.

02:25:38.000 I think that's a reasonable thing to ask of a country.

02:25:40.000 And I think that's what it means to be a citizen of this one.

02:25:43.000 So tell your friend to look at the spirit of that and don't worry about the plumbing so much.

02:25:47.000 Thank you.

02:25:52.000 What's your name?

02:25:53.000 Hi, I'm Brittany.

02:25:55.000 Big fan of Tim Cass, big fan of Candace.

02:25:57.000 Hello.

02:25:58.000 Hi.

02:25:59.000 Okay, so Vivek, thank you so much for being here.

02:26:01.000 I know the weather is not ideal right now, but thank you for being here.

02:26:06.000 So your slogan has been truth and it's all over this room.

02:26:10.000 Many Americans over the years have felt lied to by our government and that they have pulled the wool over our eyes with so many occurrences in history, especially in the last four years.

02:26:18.000 Recently, you have been speaking what recently happened with January 6th, and you're constantly getting attacked.

02:26:23.000 So thank you for speaking the truth on that.

02:26:26.000 Thank you.

02:26:27.000 There have been so many whistleblowers, such as Snowden, to expose the truth to the American people about what is going on behind closed doors.

02:26:33.000 My question to you is, do you have it on your radar to grant pardons to those who told the truth to the American people, and also to release documents that would uncover a lot of unknowns to the American people, or to provide protections to future whistleblowers?

02:26:48.000 Yes, yes, and yes, is the answer to your questions.

02:26:52.000 I mean, I think that it's a great resource.

02:26:55.000 I pardoned the clemency, but I think that if you swear an oath to the Constitution, your job is to keep it.

02:27:03.000 And so you cannot systematically participate in the violation of those constitutional freedoms and constitutional rights without exposing that to the public.

02:27:13.000 And I think we, the people, deserve a government that just tells the people the truth again.

02:27:17.000 Not just when it's easy, but when it's hard.

02:27:19.000 Sometimes it's ugly.

02:27:20.000 That's when we need it the most.

02:27:22.000 And I think we've been systematically lied to.

02:27:24.000 You could just go to the last eight years, seven, eight years.

02:27:26.000 Trump-Russia collusion hoax.

02:27:29.000 Made up.

02:27:30.000 COVID origin.

02:27:30.000 Couldn't say that it came from a lab in China, when it was obvious that it likely came from a lab in China now that we know that it did.

02:27:36.000 How our money is being spent in Ukraine right now.

02:27:38.000 The truth about what happened on January 6th.

02:27:40.000 The truth about the Nashville transgender shooter manifesto. 0.59

02:27:44.000 We actually went down to Nashville, Candace and I did an event there together, calling on the local police.

02:27:50.000 Or the FBI, either one, to just release that manifesto.

02:27:53.000 And how we were actually lied to, even in that community, they said there's a lot in there that it's not what you think it is, but it could be dangerous to release.

02:28:00.000 Then it gets released, and we see it was just actually a race-baiting, psychologically challenged person.

02:28:07.000 A government that has systematically lied to its people.

02:28:10.000 The reason people don't trust the government is that the government doesn't trust the people.

02:28:14.000 Trust is a two-way relationship, actually.

02:28:17.000 And so I think the two ways we rebuild trust in this country... We had the event last night.

02:28:22.000 Did you?

02:28:22.000 Yeah, you were out of the way.

02:28:24.000 Both of you were there for the press gaggle afterwards.

02:28:26.000 That was a fun press gaggle we had last night.

02:28:28.000 People should watch that one. 0.72

02:28:29.000 It was the longest one I've done in a long time.

02:28:30.000 We do the events and the press will come up afterwards.

02:28:32.000 It's about 35 minutes.

02:28:33.000 I think we want to rebuild trust in this country if two things happen.

02:28:38.000 I think we have taken a quantum leap forward.

02:28:41.000 We're back on track as a country.

02:28:43.000 They're easy to do.

02:28:44.000 The President of the United States tells the American people what we know about the subjects where the government has lied to the people.

02:28:53.000 UAPs, tell us the truth. 0.90

02:28:55.000 What happened on January 6th?

02:28:56.000 Just tell us the truth.

02:28:57.000 What was Saudi Arabia's role on 9-11?

02:28:59.000 We know he lied to us.

02:29:00.000 Just tell us the truth.

02:29:02.000 Just go straight down the list.

02:29:03.000 What was or wasn't known about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

02:29:06.000 Just tell us the truth.

02:29:07.000 How many times has a government official, we saw the Twitter files, any time a government official has pressured a private actor or a company or a bank or a tech company to do something the government couldn't do directly, just publish it as a first step.

02:29:18.000 Tell us the truth.

02:29:19.000 Was our taxpayer money used to fund the gain-of-function research that resulted in the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic?

02:29:26.000 That's the first thing that it's up to a U.S.

02:29:28.000 president to do from the standpoint of the government.

02:29:32.000 And then if just one person in the media, just one, I don't need NBC and ABC and CBS and CNN and everybody else doing it at the same time, just one of them, look their audience in the eye and tell them when it came to the Hunter Biden laptop story that was suppressed on the eve of the last election, when it came to the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, when it came to the origin of COVID-19, when it came to the truth of the totality, at least even, of what happened on January 6th or the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot or whatever.

02:30:01.000 We didn't tell you the whole truth.

02:30:03.000 We're sorry about it.

02:30:05.000 Here's why we didn't.

02:30:07.000 These are institutional failures.

02:30:10.000 And here's why we're going to make sure that never happens again.

02:30:14.000 And I know you're still not going to trust us tomorrow.

02:30:18.000 But we hope to re-earn your trust by repeatedly telling you the truth transparently.

02:30:23.000 And we regret what happened.

02:30:24.000 And we fired the people who were accountable for hiding it from you.

02:30:29.000 If you have a president who does that from the White House, and just one, not all of them, just one actor in the mainstream media who does that, looking their audience in the eye on a TV screen and telling them the same thing, we are well on our way to reuniting and reviving this country.

02:30:47.000 If I'm your president, that's going to happen from the presidency.

02:30:50.000 And I think there's probably at least one good enterprising smart person still left there in the mainstream media that could step up and do the same thing.

02:30:58.000 And if those two things happen, I am confident that we don't have to be mired in this divisive decline that we're in, but that we still can be in our ascent.

02:31:10.000 I believe that.

02:31:11.000 And I'm going to do my part.

02:31:13.000 And I hope those in the media who have failed have step up and do their part.

02:31:17.000 And, you know, all I'm going to ask is of the citizens of this country to do your part here in Iowa starting on Monday.

02:31:23.000 And that's what gets us there.

02:31:24.000 So thank you.

02:31:24.000 I appreciate you asking the question.

02:31:26.000 Sometimes I think that it's more valuable to lie to the people and it's actually better in that we're talking about like secret weapons programs.

02:31:33.000 You mentioned UAPs.

02:31:33.000 If we're working on like the atom bomb, they didn't want to come out and be like, by the way, Germany and everyone listening, we're building an atom bomb.

02:31:40.000 They were like, are you building an atom bomb?

02:31:42.000 No, we are not building an atom bomb.

02:31:44.000 So there's times that you want to blatantly lie and not even say that the thing is not existent.

02:31:50.000 So I disagree about the distinction between secrecy versus lying.

02:31:55.000 Certain state secrets need to be state secrets.

02:31:58.000 Yes.

02:31:59.000 Systematically lying when asked about it, I think, is a different matter.

02:32:01.000 And so I think that's a hard line to draw.

02:32:03.000 But you and I would still agree that at a certain point, You have a government that still tells the truth to the people again.

02:32:09.000 And I think we deserve to know the truth of all the way what happened to... I mean, what's the truth of what happened with JFK?

02:32:14.000 I think we should know.

02:32:14.000 I mean, I think the public should know.

02:32:16.000 We've been non-transparent about it every step of the way.

02:32:18.000 People call me a conspiracy theorist for asking the question.

02:32:21.000 That's not the point.

02:32:22.000 The point is, the government just deserves to, at a certain point in time, tell the people the truth again.

02:32:27.000 And I disagree with you even in the near term.

02:32:31.000 In the short run, it could be a more convenient thing to do to lie to the people.

02:32:36.000 But in the long run, I think the answer is always to actually stand for the truth.

02:32:42.000 And if you get into the specifics, even of geopolitics, this relates to the historical neocon neoliberal view of strategic ambiguity, right?

02:32:50.000 So non-transparency at home goes hand in glove with the foreign policy worldview of strategic ambiguity.

02:32:57.000 It's a whole worldview that says you're going to actually be in a stronger position if you don't tell people what you're going to do.

02:33:02.000 I actually view it the other way.

02:33:03.000 I think that if we have clear red lines, and actually say that, you know what, we are nuclear equipped, and here's where we are.

02:33:10.000 That's actually going to, if we tell a country that if you cross this red line, we're actually going to have major consequences to pay for it.

02:33:18.000 That's more likely to actually avoid war than it is to actually engage in strategic ambiguity.

02:33:23.000 And so it's just a totally different worldview from the traditional neoconservative neoliberal vision that I'm bringing, which is transparency at home, which actually translates to you don't need the national security charade if your whole foreign policy strategy was also grounded in truth.

02:33:38.000 In actually saying that this is what we're okay with, and this is what we are affirmatively not okay with.

02:33:43.000 And here are the conditions under which we will blow you to annihilation, because we have to.

02:33:47.000 And if you cross that red line, we follow through and do it, but the rest of the time we're not going to pretend like that's a possibility either.

02:33:53.000 And so it's a total alternative worldview, all the way up and all the way down.

02:33:58.000 But it is grounded in, yes, absolute truth and transparency.

02:34:04.000 And so that's what I'm going to bring.

02:34:05.000 And if you think that that's dangerous, if you think that that poses risks to the future of our republic, then I'm not your guy.

02:34:11.000 I'm not your candidate.

02:34:12.000 But if you believe with me that in the long run, this is the way to respect the founding ideals of this country and to lead a country that is stronger over the long run for relying on truth, both in our foreign policy and our domestic policy, then I don't think there's anybody in this race who comes close to being able to deliver that in the way that I will.

02:34:32.000 So that's what I offer.

02:34:33.000 I want to thank Vivek for having us out, and for everyone else here who's joined and has hung out with us.

02:34:40.000 We've got a special members-only segment, VIP.

02:34:42.000 We're going to be hanging out at this private party, keeping the conversation going for a little bit while longer.

02:34:47.000 So head over to TimCast.com, click join us.

02:34:50.000 And in a few minutes, we will have a live feed, hanging out on the couch, talking a little bit more about what's going on behind the scenes.

02:34:56.000 And I want to say thank you to everybody who showed up here physically, everybody who watched the show.

02:35:00.000 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.

02:35:02.000 Everywhere.

02:35:03.000 You can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:35:05.000 Make sure you smash that like button.

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02:35:08.000 But let's... I don't know if you want the last word, so we should go around before coming back to you, Vivek, and we can have... Yeah, let's do that.

02:35:13.000 Luke, if you want to shout anything out.

02:35:14.000 Yeah, sure.

02:35:15.000 If you want to support me, you can on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

02:35:18.000 The phrase that I'm wearing right now was actually highlighted by Politico, and they were actually showing a picture of my hat, but they conflated this issue with conspiracy theories.

02:35:28.000 And what happened with Jeffrey Epstein is not a conspiracy theory.

02:35:31.000 It's a conspiracy fact.

02:35:32.000 Independent media has been talking about it for many years now.

02:35:36.000 while the corporate, prostitute, horse-dream media has literally been covering it up. 0.68

02:35:40.000 Shame on them. 0.98

02:35:41.000 Criminal actions by these SOBs that deserve to, of course, be recalled.

02:35:47.000 Fight back. Spread the word. Wear the shirts.

02:35:50.000 Thebestpoliticalshirts.com is the best way to support me.

02:35:53.000 And even though, Vivek, you want to peg the Fed and I want to end the Fed,

02:35:58.000 thank you so much for coming here and being a part of this broadcast.

02:36:01.000 I want to end it, too.

02:36:02.000 And taking questions that are not scripted.

02:36:05.000 We're actually going to continue the conversation on also thebestpoliticalshow.com

02:36:09.000 where we are going to have you as a guest soon as well.

02:36:11.000 So I look forward to that as well.

02:36:12.000 Thank you so much.

02:36:13.000 Yeah, Ian Crossland, if you don't know what's happening, guys.

02:36:17.000 Follow me, Ian.

02:36:18.000 And take care of yourself, your stomach and your heart and your brain.

02:36:22.000 Kind of reduce the acidity.

02:36:26.000 Let the oils flow through you and get in touch with God that way.

02:36:29.000 It helps pretty good.

02:36:30.000 So now's the time to start eating healthy and do a plank.

02:36:33.000 Do like a 30-second plank or something.

02:36:35.000 No seed oils.

02:36:36.000 Graphene.

02:36:36.000 No, graphene.

02:36:38.000 And then we'll talk about graphene.

02:36:41.000 Ian, it's been a pleasure to sit next to you tonight.

02:36:45.000 Guys, you know where to find me.

02:36:46.000 You can subscribe to my YouTube channel.

02:36:47.000 Also, just want to re-mention the series, A Shot in the Dark, for people that are interested in learning more about vaccines and big pharma.

02:36:53.000 I think it's the most important work that I do.

02:36:55.000 And I just want to say it's a tremendous honor to be on the road with Vivek this week.

02:36:58.000 We're going to be hitting a bunch of campaign stops tomorrow.

02:37:01.000 Just love his vision for the future.

02:37:03.000 So just as much as I can throw power to him, I just, I'm really impressed with your campaign.

02:37:08.000 Thank you.

02:37:09.000 I appreciate it, Candace.

02:37:09.000 Thank you.

02:37:10.000 Close us out!

02:37:14.000 Look, I am guided by my gratitude to this country, actually.

02:37:19.000 I don't covet the office of the president, and if there's somebody else who can step up and do this job better than I can, they will have my support and full optimism for the country.

02:37:30.000 But I do think we're in the middle of a kind of war in this country right now.

02:37:36.000 And I don't use that word lightly.

02:37:38.000 I don't think it is a war between black and white as the media would have you believe.

02:37:44.000 I don't even think it's a war between Democrat and Republican for some of the reasons we've talked about here.

02:37:49.000 I think it's a war between those of us who love the United States of America and our founding ideals and a fringe minority who hates this country and what we stand for.

02:38:00.000 It's a war between the permanent state and the everyday citizen.

02:38:05.000 And I think we need, right now more than ever, a commander-in-chief, a general, who's actually gonna lead us to victory in the war.

02:38:13.000 I think you gotta know you're in a war to win one.

02:38:16.000 Can't be asleep at the switch.

02:38:18.000 I think you can't be bought and paid for by that existing system.

02:38:22.000 Every politician's dancing to the tune of their biggest donor, my biggest donor is me.

02:38:26.000 I don't report to them, I report to you, the people of the country.

02:38:32.000 But I think now more than ever it's also going to require somebody with fresh legs.

02:38:38.000 And I think somebody from the next generation to reach and lead the next generation of Americans.

02:38:44.000 And so, if you agree with me on that, I'm going to ask you to vote for me.

02:38:50.000 Starting in Iowa on January 15th.

02:38:52.000 It's going to be a cold night.

02:38:55.000 I'm told it's like minus 12 cold.

02:38:56.000 No, no, no.

02:38:58.000 Minus 22.

02:38:58.000 Minus 22 cold.

02:39:02.000 I think that this could actually be for the people who want to support me to be the next president.

02:39:09.000 You know what?

02:39:10.000 George Washington, I don't think, complained about the weather when he crossed the Delaware either.

02:39:14.000 And I think we're in a 1776 moment.

02:39:17.000 I think we are in a war for the future of our country.

02:39:20.000 So despite it being cold, I'm going to ask the people, starting right here in Iowa, And to safely bundle up, be warm, but come out on the night of the Iowa Caucus.

02:39:30.000 Do the right thing for this country.

02:39:32.000 And if you circle my name that night, I think we have a good shot at winning the Iowa Caucus.

02:39:37.000 And if I win the Iowa Caucus, I'm your next president.

02:39:40.000 And if I'm your next president, we get done the things I'm telling you we will get done.

02:39:45.000 And I am confident that our best days are actually still going to be ahead of us.

02:39:51.000 So thank you guys for having me.

02:39:53.000 Thank you everybody for hanging out and watching this show, and we'll be back tomorrow.

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