Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Civil Unrest ERUPTS After Jury Refuses To Indict Cops In Breonna Taylor Death

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:12.000 you you earlier today it was announced there are not going to

00:00:42.000 be any indictments for the police officers who were involved in the raid in in specific reference to the death

00:00:47.000 of Brenna Taylor.

00:00:49.000 Now, I gotta clarify.

00:00:50.000 One cop did get an indictment.

00:00:52.000 He got, I believe, three counts of wanton endangerment because he was firing into other apartments.

00:00:59.000 The left has taken this as an extreme slight, saying that if Breonna Taylor is innocent, then why is he getting charged for almost hurting somebody else, but not getting charged at all for the death of Breonna Taylor?

00:01:12.000 It's an interesting argument, and we're gonna have to talk a lot about it, but once you learn the full details of what happened, it becomes a much more interesting and nuanced story.

00:01:19.000 And I'll say straight up, I've even seen conservative, right-wing journalists and personalities get this wrong.

00:01:26.000 And we did it last night, when I said it was a no-knock warrant.

00:01:29.000 So just some quick context.

00:01:31.000 It's the Breonna Taylor case.

00:01:32.000 It's in Louisville, Kentucky.

00:01:34.000 The narrative was that these cops just barged in, no-knock warrant, kicked the door down, and then started firing.

00:01:39.000 Breonna Taylor was sleeping in her bed and got killed.

00:01:41.000 None of that happened.

00:01:42.000 The official story, they pounded on the door over and over again, witnesses confirmed this,

00:01:46.000 and even Brenna Taylor's boyfriend said they were banging on the door.

00:01:50.000 But they didn't answer, cops break the door down, that's when Brenna Taylor's boyfriend

00:01:53.000 fires, shooting one of the cops in the leg.

00:01:56.000 He fires back, and those are the rounds that they believe killed Brenna Taylor.

00:02:01.000 And then this other cop I guess started firing wildly, and that's the only charge he got.

00:02:04.000 So already civil unrest has started.

00:02:07.000 There's a bunch of crazy videos.

00:02:08.000 As soon as they made the announcement, some dude, like, apparently went for a gun, and then they grabbed him.

00:02:11.000 They're like, yo, don't do it.

00:02:12.000 Stop.

00:02:13.000 Stop.

00:02:13.000 You can't.

00:02:14.000 And then the guy chilled out.

00:02:15.000 There's videos of, like, a U-Haul truck pulling up, and then they're pulling out a bunch of signs and shields.

00:02:20.000 And this is causing a lot of people to, well, get angry.

00:02:23.000 Why?

00:02:24.000 Who organized this?

00:02:25.000 Who's prepared all this stuff?

00:02:27.000 And why do they have shields already?

00:02:29.000 What are they planning for?

00:02:30.000 Apparently there's protests planned across the country, likely gonna, in my opinion, become riots.

00:02:36.000 We'll see how this plays out.

00:02:38.000 But I gotta say, you know, something weird's been going on with this show, where we book people, and then something crazy happens during the day, and we're like, wow, what a great coincidence this person happens to be here, because we got Maj Toure here.

00:02:51.000 You're the founder of Black Guns Matter. 0.99

00:02:52.000 Absolutely.

00:02:53.000 And you got a lot to say about this.

00:02:55.000 Oh my goodness.

00:02:57.000 And you just happened to be here the same day this announcement came down.

00:03:02.000 The Matrix is real.

00:03:04.000 The Matrix, the simulation, dude.

00:03:06.000 That's crazy.

00:03:07.000 It keeps happening to us.

00:03:08.000 Yeah.

00:03:09.000 So anyway, we're going to talk a lot about this and I think we're just, we got a bunch of other stories we can go through because I really want to talk about Philando Castile and gun rights, guns in general, and Black Lives Matter stuff, Black Guns Matter stuff.

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00:03:25.000 Yeah, I'm over here.

00:03:25.000 I have this weird mic.

00:03:26.000 I hope everyone can hear me, but I am here.

00:03:27.000 I did not die.

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00:03:38.000 Yeah, I'm over here. I have this weird mic. I hope everyone can hear me, but I am here.

00:03:42.000 I did not die.

00:03:43.000 She exists.

00:03:44.000 I do, yes.

00:03:45.000 We got to, so we made some, we hard-lined the internet today.

00:03:48.000 We figured it out.

00:03:49.000 Finally got past all these IP problems.

00:03:51.000 It's gonna be a learning curve, man.

00:03:53.000 Figuring out how to get this to work.

00:03:55.000 So, you weren't here the other day.

00:03:56.000 The internet was all crazy.

00:03:57.000 The day before, the glitches.

00:03:59.000 The other day, the audio was all crazy before.

00:04:03.000 We're figuring it out.

00:04:04.000 Somebody changed something in the matrix.

00:04:06.000 I don't yeah, you know, I'll tell you this just like as a pointless aside when it comes to building computers and like setting up stuff I often hear like me and my friends always talk about this.

00:04:16.000 There's like magic It's a joke because we're like we plug everything in the way It's supposed to go turn it on nothing happens and we're like what we did everything, right?

00:04:24.000 And then you unplug it plug it back in it works, right?

00:04:26.000 Like we I have no idea what so we just call it magic.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, like I don't know magic whatever, you know simulation magic Magic.

00:04:34.000 Oh, it's hardcore.

00:04:35.000 Right.

00:04:36.000 It's magnetic.

00:04:37.000 All right, so let's just get into it, man.

00:04:39.000 Let's talk about the first story.

00:04:42.000 So for those that are just tuning in, the quick recap.

00:04:44.000 Earlier today, the AG announced the cops involved in the Breonna Taylor case will not be indicted in relation to the death of Breonna Taylor.

00:04:55.000 One guy's getting charged, wanton endangerment.

00:04:57.000 for firing, I guess, wildly or blindly into other apartments, nearly hitting somebody.

00:05:03.000 And so naturally, now we're seeing civil unrest.

00:05:04.000 We got the story from the New York Post.

00:05:06.000 Civil unrest in Louisville intensifies hours after Breonna Taylor grand jury decision.

00:05:11.000 Obviously, if you're tuning in right now, it's happening literally as we're speaking.

00:05:15.000 So we're not covering any of this stuff live.

00:05:17.000 And this story is from Five.

00:05:18.000 We've already seen a ton of arrests.

00:05:19.000 We've already seen people deploying shields.

00:05:22.000 A U-Haul pulls up.

00:05:23.000 They start giving out materials.

00:05:24.000 They've clearly been planning for this in advance.

00:05:27.000 The city declared a state of emergency, I think, what was it, like, several days ago?

00:05:31.000 Saying, like, no parking in downtown.

00:05:33.000 And they expect it to go nuts.

00:05:35.000 So today's only, what, Wednesday?

00:05:37.000 This weekend's gonna be absolutely insane.

00:05:39.000 Absolutely insane.

00:05:40.000 So, for...

00:05:42.000 There's a lot to go through here.

00:05:43.000 You know what I'm going to do?

00:05:44.000 I'm just going to ask you, do you know everything that happened with the Brad Taylor case?

00:05:48.000 Yep.

00:05:48.000 And so, for those that aren't familiar, this is Maj Toure.

00:05:51.000 You founded Black Guns Matter.

00:05:53.000 Yep.

00:05:53.000 So this is, what are your thoughts on the Brad Taylor case?

00:05:56.000 Let's throw it to you.

00:05:57.000 First and foremost, love and respect to her family, her loved ones, the people that will never see her again.

00:06:06.000 Breonna Taylor.

00:06:08.000 So I think that's it's fair to and respectable to make sure that we lead with that energy.

00:06:15.000 For sure, man.

00:06:16.000 Secondly, the state is 100% responsible for Breonna Taylor's death.

00:06:24.000 Unequivocally.

00:06:27.000 Now, if you want to get into the weeds and the nuance of, you know, the officers and why this part.

00:06:33.000 Now, that's for all of my friends that live in hoods across America.

00:06:37.000 Yes, the state is absolutely responsible for it.

00:06:41.000 Now, when you get into the conversation about the nuance and the objective nature of, okay, what happened?

00:06:47.000 Like the facts of the matter, right?

00:06:49.000 Some of my friends may disagree with me.

00:06:55.000 Especially people that have been the people that will agree with me have probably either been in a shootout Shot at someone or shot had someone shoot at them People that know what rounds do will totally get why someone getting shot at will shoot back.

00:07:12.000 Oh, yeah So in that sense I want to again lead with my primary thought is the state government Which is useless, which does not help.

00:07:27.000 We'll get into that later, because we'll disagree.

00:07:28.000 This is going to be fun.

00:07:29.000 They're responsible for that death.

00:07:31.000 And when you get to a point where you have someone issuing, no not great, not great, whatever, I'm in my house.

00:07:39.000 I don't have to answer my door.

00:07:40.000 Right.

00:07:41.000 I don't have to. 0.96

00:07:42.000 And if I don't answer my door, and whoever's on the other side of that door, that doesn't announce exactly who they are, and it's not clear who they are, if they break into my house, I am well within my means to shoot them.

00:07:56.000 If you come into my house after a certain time unannounced, I'm not answering the door.

00:08:01.000 And if you kick my door in, Here's the challenge, man.

00:08:06.000 I think... I read through this stuff.

00:08:08.000 I read what CNN had to say.

00:08:10.000 I read these, like, leaked documents.

00:08:12.000 I don't think anybody was wrong.

00:08:14.000 I mean, actually, I would lean more towards the state itself and the system itself was wrong.

00:08:19.000 So the cops are told to serve a warrant.

00:08:21.000 They go, they knock on the door.

00:08:22.000 They say they announced themselves.

00:08:25.000 Witnesses apparently, you know, saw them, said what was going on.

00:08:27.000 Maybe they didn't announce themselves.

00:08:29.000 They said they did.

00:08:29.000 I don't believe them.

00:08:30.000 I think they're liars. 0.99

00:08:31.000 Yeah, I think they're liars. 0.98

00:08:33.000 I think that just like they lied about saying that they talked to the postmaster and the postmaster they got proof that the mail was coming for the drug dealers and all that to the house and the postmaster general was like that's not true.

00:08:44.000 That's not true. 0.82

00:08:45.000 They've proven themselves to be liars. 0.89

00:08:48.000 They're lying. 0.94

00:08:49.000 I do not believe that.

00:08:50.000 Now, unfortunately, regardless of if I believe it or not, Breonna's dead.

00:08:55.000 Then they charged Kenneth Walker for defending his house, and the only reason why he's out of jail is because people started making an uproar about it.

00:09:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:09:05.000 Any of those officers, if somebody did the same thing in their house, those officers would have did the same thing Kenneth Walker did.

00:09:12.000 So that's the point I'm trying to make.

00:09:14.000 Yeah.

00:09:14.000 You break my door down.

00:09:15.000 So I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to be that milquetoast fence-sitter on this one, right?

00:09:19.000 Maybe it's not going to work, but the idea is, let's say, benefit of the doubt to the cops, you disagree, you think they're lying, and I respect that for sure, because of course everyone's going to protect their own interests.

00:09:29.000 Right.

00:09:30.000 Let's say they did yell and Kenneth just didn't hear anything.

00:09:32.000 So all he sees is a door fly open, people breaking his door down, and he's like, my house, my gun, I'm defending myself.

00:09:39.000 It's castle doctrine. 1.00

00:09:40.000 Play dumb games, win stupid prizes. 1.00

00:09:42.000 Yeah, you break into my house, I'm defending myself. 0.99

00:09:44.000 It's not the first time we've heard stories like this, too, where a cop, you know, they'll break in, and they're playing close, and even if they announce themselves, this is why I say, when I say it's not anybody's fault, what I'm trying to say, it's the system's fault.

00:09:56.000 So I agree when you say the state is responsible.

00:09:58.000 I think it's a system we created.

00:10:00.000 Let's say the cop yells.

00:10:01.000 Police, you know, we're coming in.

00:10:03.000 And you don't hear them.

00:10:04.000 And then you see a guy in regular clothes, armed with a gun. 1.00

00:10:06.000 I'm shooting you. 0.98

00:10:07.000 Right, exactly. 0.97

00:10:08.000 Even if you do hear them, and anyone in the world could be like, it's the police, open up.

00:10:13.000 Right.

00:10:13.000 Exactly.

00:10:13.000 If they wanted to kill you, and then if you open the door and they killed you.

00:10:16.000 So like, if he thought that someone was coming for him, and he heard someone yelling, they came in with plain clothes.

00:10:20.000 I'm all the way with y'all.

00:10:21.000 We all, in essence, saying the same thing.

00:10:23.000 But then I gotta go to, why were you lying?

00:10:26.000 I cannot leave that part out.

00:10:28.000 The police officers saying, and maybe not the specific police officers on scene, right?

00:10:35.000 But their team starts to lie to protect those officers.

00:10:39.000 Then you have a scenario where you tried to get the ex-boyfriend, they tried to present him with a plea deal to lie on Breonna Taylor.

00:10:51.000 And say she was involved and we'll cut down on your sentence.

00:10:55.000 Shouts to him for not being a coward and taking the time, taking those extra years, because he could have got it off light.

00:11:01.000 But then there's back-to-back lies.

00:11:03.000 The system, the state, lying to protect their own.

00:11:07.000 This speaks to bigger things.

00:11:09.000 So to your point though, Tim, if I'm the officer that is getting shot at, From a tactical standpoint, I'm not just shooting.

00:11:20.000 I'm not just returning rounds.

00:11:21.000 Right?

00:11:21.000 Especially the first guy that got charged.

00:11:23.000 His charges carry up to five years.

00:11:26.000 That's the Wanted and Endangered guy?

00:11:28.000 Yes.

00:11:29.000 He shot three apartments.

00:11:31.000 Right, right, right.

00:11:32.000 You don't know what you're doing.

00:11:34.000 And the cops actually testified.

00:11:35.000 They were telling him to chill out.

00:11:37.000 Right.

00:11:37.000 When he was at the door, he was, like, really nervous and agitated.

00:11:40.000 And I can't remember which cop it was.

00:11:42.000 He was saying, bro, relax.

00:11:43.000 He was like, Brett, relax.

00:11:44.000 Relax, Brett, relax.

00:11:45.000 Right.

00:11:45.000 I think his name was Brett.

00:11:47.000 The bigger picture here is, OK, this was about drugs.

00:11:51.000 As an ex-drug dealer, allegedly, right?

00:11:56.000 Drugs go like this.

00:11:58.000 Hey, man, I want some weed.

00:12:01.000 Hey man, I have the weed.

00:12:03.000 Oh, that's great.

00:12:04.000 I have the money right here.

00:12:05.000 That's called commerce.

00:12:09.000 And every other case, right?

00:12:12.000 Tim is like, I'm gonna rob Maj.

00:12:15.000 Tim robs me, and I go, man, Tim just robbed me!

00:12:19.000 I call the police, they come get the information, they do the investigation, not in drug cases.

00:12:24.000 They sit, they lie, they sneak, they put stuff on people.

00:12:28.000 The bigger other question that's not being, statement that's not being said is, this is another clear-cut example that the war on drugs is an extreme failure.

00:12:36.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:36.000 And in this scenario, it cost Breonna Taylor her life, Kenneth Walker had to be in jail, couldn't even attend, you know, he had to deal with that, right?

00:12:47.000 The law enforcement officers could have got killed.

00:12:50.000 One of them got shot in the leg.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, femoral artery.

00:12:53.000 And that, you will bleed out.

00:12:55.000 Yup.

00:12:55.000 So, these are things that we're making about, okay, these cops.

00:12:59.000 I do believe that the one cop that was reckless, yeah, I'm cool with that charge.

00:13:04.000 The other two that were returning fire, not in three different, you know, houses.

00:13:09.000 Those guys aren't charged because, yeah, you guys were getting shot at.

00:13:12.000 That's the part that people, the objective part that has to come down.

00:13:15.000 But the bigger issue is, and I want to say shouts to Dr. Paul for presenting legislation that puts an end to no-knock raids.

00:13:23.000 Not that this was that.

00:13:24.000 They handled this the same way they handled the Zimmerman case.

00:13:28.000 Television made it about the stand your ground.

00:13:30.000 It wasn't a stand your ground case, like, at all.

00:13:33.000 At all.

00:13:33.000 So, the bigger issue is the war on drugs is a complete sham.

00:13:38.000 It's putting Respectable law enforcement officers, I am not a statist by any stretch of the imagination.

00:13:46.000 However, I want guys to, if that guy or woman puts that uniform on to say, I'm gonna catch some robbers, some rapists, and some unjustified killers today, and I'm gonna make the community safer, I salute them.

00:13:57.000 But if you're running around talking about, yeah, we heard that they had drugs, the person that wanted the heroin and this person had the money, you see that it's a failure.

00:14:07.000 And so I think the bigger picture is having those conversations in that regard.

00:14:11.000 And I have to settle with the fact that, and it hurts, I have to settle with the fact that because of systemic Flaws?

00:14:21.000 This young woman will never be able to see her family again.

00:14:24.000 Right?

00:14:25.000 You know when you talk about cops lying?

00:14:27.000 I've seen it.

00:14:28.000 There was a case in New York where I was live streaming.

00:14:31.000 I'm out on the sidewalk.

00:14:32.000 And I was... I didn't even realize what was going on.

00:14:35.000 But apparently I filmed the dude who got arrested.

00:14:38.000 The cops lied.

00:14:39.000 So the woman who actually felt the arrest report wasn't the one who made the arrest.

00:14:42.000 She claimed he was blocking the road.

00:14:44.000 He's on video getting arrested on the sidewalk.

00:14:46.000 And I got angry, like, why was there no accountability for lying on that police report arresting this dude?

00:14:52.000 Nothing ever happened from it.

00:14:53.000 Because the state can lie.

00:14:55.000 Lawyers, attorney generals, district attorneys, all of that, they can lie on the stand and trick you.

00:15:01.000 But if you lie in response, they can charge you.

00:15:04.000 So here's the issue I see.

00:15:06.000 I recognize that.

00:15:07.000 And when I hear stories that, you know, cops will lie to protect each other, yeah, what else is new?

00:15:12.000 People don't hold their own groups accountable, right?

00:15:14.000 Right.

00:15:14.000 Here's the issue.

00:15:16.000 The far left does the exact same thing. 0.96

00:15:17.000 These, like, extremists, these rioters, they smash and burn. 0.93

00:15:20.000 And with a smile on their face, they'll lie about everything. 0.98

00:15:23.000 They'll claim, you know, Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist.

00:15:25.000 And just a kid who was, you know, coming out and... Shouts to Kyle under duress, doing his thing.

00:15:33.000 And lowering his weapon when the dude has hands up.

00:15:37.000 The last guy who didn't get shot, because two guys put their hands up, this is actually in the video they put out, he puts his hand up and Kyle immediately lowers his weapon under duress, it's a good point.

00:15:48.000 So the left will lie, they'll claim all these things about him to protect themselves.

00:15:52.000 And I see that in every single community, I don't care if it's the police, I don't care if it's Antifa, people do this for their communities, whatever it is.

00:15:59.000 The problem we have, We rely on police.

00:16:03.000 I know you're gonna disagree with me.

00:16:05.000 I never, I will never call the police.

00:16:08.000 Why's that?

00:16:10.000 My first interaction with law enforcement, and be clear, I've had law enforcement guys, Diana Mueller, who's a three-gun competition shooter, has been one of Black Guns Matter's staunchest supporters.

00:16:23.000 She's a cop, though, and some of the things she's just never gonna, I'm like, bro, you're heavy-handed on certain issues because you're 20 years ex-law enforcement.

00:16:31.000 I have guys that I totally would trust my life with that are law enforcement.

00:16:35.000 Ken Scott, Prevectus Group, came down to the Solutionary Summit.

00:16:38.000 Instructor of the year in my mind, like every year, right?

00:16:42.000 So it's not that I'm not objective.

00:16:44.000 My experience, my lived experiences with law enforcement, until I started doing the Second Amendment thing, right?

00:16:51.000 Have been horrible.

00:16:52.000 My first experience with law enforcement, I worked at McDonald's.

00:16:55.000 I had a free class.

00:16:56.000 I went down in Philly.

00:16:57.000 I went to the gallery when the gallery was a thing.

00:17:00.000 I went to go buy clothes with, like, my McDonald's paycheck and come back to class.

00:17:05.000 Cop car pulls in front of me.

00:17:06.000 They put me on the hood of the car.

00:17:08.000 They take the money I got.

00:17:09.000 I got, like, $200 left, right?

00:17:12.000 They take, they like, yeah, you out here hustling.

00:17:13.000 I'm like, nah, nah, nah.

00:17:14.000 I work at McDonald's.

00:17:15.000 My uniform's in my bag.

00:17:16.000 I got my check.

00:17:17.000 I just went to the gallery.

00:17:18.000 I'm coming back.

00:17:20.000 They took my money.

00:17:22.000 And they were like, all right, go to class. 0.98

00:17:23.000 I was like, damn, y'all not going to like leave me money for like a transpass? 0.96

00:17:26.000 Because, you know, I'm in high school. 0.98

00:17:27.000 I'm taking a train.

00:17:29.000 And they threw me $10 and said, you can get some tokens.

00:17:33.000 That's my first experience with law enforcement at like 15 and a half.

00:17:36.000 That's that civil right, civil forfeiture.

00:17:39.000 You're right.

00:17:39.000 We're taking your money because...

00:17:42.000 It wasn't civil.

00:17:44.000 It was, we're taking your money.

00:17:45.000 We thought you was hustling because I was excited to put the hustler shirt on that I bought with my hard-earned money coming back to school.

00:17:52.000 I had a free period, a free class.

00:17:53.000 I go, I come back.

00:17:55.000 This is my first experience with law enforcement.

00:17:58.000 In the communities, and I argue on both sides, I get love and hate from both sides because that experience in urban America is a different experience than maybe, maybe, maybe in suburban America.

00:18:11.000 And if I'm in a ten block radius that I never leave, and three out of the ten cops in my ten block radius during the time that I'm there, three of those are like horrible humans.

00:18:22.000 That is my lived experience with law enforcement.

00:18:24.000 Is that a scathing indictment of all law enforcement?

00:18:27.000 Absolutely not.

00:18:29.000 So I'm in this weird middle of the Venn diagram in regards to law enforcement.

00:18:34.000 And politics too, because you're a libertarian.

00:18:36.000 Right.

00:18:36.000 So to me, I'm not calling the police until I shot somebody and I'm calling them to come clean this up and take a report.

00:18:45.000 Because if I shot somebody, it was absolutely to protect and defend life.

00:18:52.000 And it's a slam dunk.

00:18:53.000 It was like Jason Voorhees.

00:18:55.000 And it was like, clearly that's the bad guy.

00:18:58.000 I stopped the bad guy.

00:18:59.000 They're going to throw me a party.

00:19:00.000 Hey, police got one.

00:19:02.000 You know, there's been a shooting at wherever I'm wearing a black freedom over everything hoodie.

00:19:06.000 Send help.

00:19:07.000 Boop.

00:19:08.000 And that's it.

00:19:08.000 That's the only reason why I would call law enforcement.

00:19:11.000 Only.

00:19:12.000 Because, unfortunately, Um, a lot of people do not have the emotional demeanor and the speak the legalese to deal with law enforcement officers from an objective and logical perspective.

00:19:30.000 And so tensions are high and it could cost somebody their life.

00:19:33.000 Maybe not even mine.

00:19:34.000 I'm good.

00:19:35.000 I can maneuver with the police easy, but the other five guys around may not see it the same way.

00:19:41.000 I've had a lot of bad experiences with cops.

00:19:43.000 I mean, I've often talked about how I think most people's interactions with cops are going to be negative.

00:19:48.000 Because you're getting citations, you're going to take it for jaywalking, for speeding, headlights out, something like that.

00:19:52.000 And rarely is a cop going to be there to actually save you.

00:19:56.000 But I have been saved.

00:19:57.000 I was saved once from a mugging. 0.98

00:19:59.000 I had a guy trying to mug me and it was the stupidest thing because I was broke.

00:20:01.000 My wall's empty and I'm like...

00:20:03.000 I was like, I'm not even carrying anything, dude.

00:20:04.000 Cops came out of nowhere, it was nuts, and grabbed the guy, slammed him up against the fence, and yelled in his face, not in my town!

00:20:11.000 Really?

00:20:12.000 Yeah, it was like one of the craziest experiences I've ever had.

00:20:14.000 And that coming off of, I've had cops give me, I've had two, I got two tickets when I was like 20, and they were both bunk.

00:20:22.000 I got pulled over, and the cop just lied with a ticket in my face.

00:20:25.000 Lie.

00:20:25.000 But even then, I still look at, like with all the riots and everything, what do you do if there's no police?

00:20:33.000 Me?

00:20:35.000 Sure, yeah, in general.

00:20:36.000 Let me give you a scenario.

00:20:37.000 So ultimately, I feel like I'm for police reform.

00:20:41.000 We definitely gotta figure out, if the cops are lying and not being held accountable, yeah, they gotta be held accountable.

00:20:46.000 If they're lying under oath, we can't have that.

00:20:48.000 Because the system's broken, if that's the case.

00:20:50.000 And it happens too much.

00:20:51.000 But I think a lot of what we see in terms of people who get shot because a cop freaks out, we need better training.

00:20:58.000 That means more funding.

00:20:59.000 We need better programs.

00:21:02.000 If you want social workers, then I think one of the ideas, I think you had this idea, Ian, like having a social worker with a cop, which means adding to the police, not taking away from.

00:21:11.000 So I look at it this way.

00:21:12.000 I think there's issues.

00:21:13.000 I think we definitely can have conversations to reform and figure these things out.

00:21:17.000 We want to make sure we recognize that cops are people.

00:21:19.000 They have their perspective.

00:21:20.000 They need to be- They're humans.

00:21:22.000 Exactly.

00:21:23.000 And I think a lot of them are underpaid.

00:21:24.000 Like seriously, in New York, it's bad.

00:21:26.000 So they don't even care because they're like, for this job, I'm not risking anything.

00:21:29.000 I'm going to shoot first, ask questions later, because I get paid 30k a year.

00:21:32.000 If you shoot first, ask questions later, I want to hurry up, get you your day in court, and send you to jail. 0.96

00:21:37.000 Right.

00:21:37.000 Immediately.

00:21:38.000 I don't care if that's an American citizen. 0.93

00:21:40.000 As a gun owner, I don't go anywhere without a gun.

00:21:42.000 I carry, allegedly, unlawfully, in New York, in New Jersey, in Chicago, in Compton, in wherever, wherever.

00:21:50.000 If anyone that's with me uses their firearm, shoot first, ask questions later, I want my homie to have his day in court and go to jail.

00:21:59.000 Okay, these bullets, much like toothpaste, the bullets don't go back in the, you know, the rounds don't go back in the barrel, the toothpaste don't go back in the tube.

00:22:08.000 So, I am gonna say... The gist of what I'm saying is, I think we need police.

00:22:15.000 I think you do, but I think that...

00:22:19.000 You don't need as many.

00:22:20.000 I think that if there's less laws, there's too many laws.

00:22:24.000 That's true too.

00:22:25.000 The laws, what laws are is a person with a gun at the end of you not complying to force you.

00:22:34.000 That's why it's called law enforcement.

00:22:36.000 And if the laws are unjust, like slavery was law.

00:22:40.000 Like this is cool.

00:22:43.000 So Harriet Tubman going like, nah bro, it's a contradiction. 1.00

00:22:47.000 Yeah.

00:22:49.000 They were well within their rights to kill Harriet Tubman. 0.96

00:22:53.000 If you name, if we wanna be honest, if we wanna be honest as Americans, all of our heroes were outlaws.

00:23:02.000 George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, we were talking about Gandhi, Gandhi, all of these guys and women We're rebels.

00:23:15.000 We're like, no, this is morally repugnant and incorrect.

00:23:19.000 Law enforcement, not peace officers like it used to be, not sheriffs, not deputizing constables from the community as it should be.

00:23:29.000 Law enforcement has turned into a over-militarized racket to generate revenue for the state.

00:23:36.000 And when we have so many laws, you're saying your tickets, right?

00:23:38.000 Yeah.

00:23:39.000 Oh, your headlight is out.

00:23:40.000 Come on, bro.

00:23:41.000 Like, in reality, you giving me a ticket and charging me money If I didn't get the headlight fixed, I probably don't have money.

00:23:52.000 So you're charging me more money for having the headlight out and it's going to make the quality of life of Americans better?

00:23:58.000 How?

00:23:59.000 I'd like it if your ticket to get your headlight fixed, you didn't have to pay it if you got your headlight fixed.

00:24:05.000 I think they actually do that.

00:24:06.000 Is it every time though?

00:24:07.000 The problem is you've got to go to court.

00:24:09.000 Court fees.

00:24:12.000 Well, I don't know about court fees in these circumstances, but probably because I've only had a couple experiences, but I'm pretty sure in many circumstances, like your headlights out, get it fixed.

00:24:21.000 And then you go to the court and you show them you got it fixed and they're like, you're free to go.

00:24:24.000 But why?

00:24:25.000 Why not police officer just saying, Hey man, you got a taillight, you got a headlight out.

00:24:29.000 Probably because you'll never get it fixed if there's no incentive.

00:24:34.000 Or, okay.

00:24:34.000 If that's the case, right?

00:24:36.000 If you won't get it fixed, if there's no incentive, let's go with that theory. 0.57

00:24:41.000 It just looks trash, bro, and you'll go, I'll fix it.

00:24:44.000 And if there's, like, if I want to drive with one headlight, just play it like I'm a motorcycle. 0.51

00:24:53.000 A motorcycle has one headlight.

00:24:56.000 The problem is we keep asking the state to correct us or tell us when we're wrong.

00:25:01.000 And it ties, I know we kind of going out in the weeds, but to bring it back, it's, this is why you have more and more laws Where we have to depend on more and more police to do things that, again, like, we're talking about taking a social worker with a police officer.

00:25:17.000 They did that somewhere where, like, the arrests, like, dropped or something like that.

00:25:23.000 The reality is we do not need more police officer or more policing.

00:25:27.000 We need more freedom.

00:25:28.000 We need less laws.

00:25:29.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:25:31.000 This was a joke tweet, but it's a fact.

00:25:34.000 I think it was like a truthism.

00:25:36.000 If you abolish all laws, there will be no more crime.

00:25:40.000 Right, but here's the other thing.

00:25:42.000 So look at Portugal, right?

00:25:44.000 A few years ago, Portugal was like, yo, you wanna do drugs?

00:25:47.000 That's on you.

00:25:49.000 Don't look to us to chase you about it.

00:25:51.000 Don't look to us to help you.

00:25:52.000 We'll redirect some of the money that we have that we were locking people up for, for this.

00:25:58.000 We're gonna put it into, if you wanna get a rehab, we'll, instead of us spending X amount for locking people up, Right?

00:26:05.000 We're going to spend a fraction of that for the people that want some help like once.

00:26:09.000 Right?

00:26:11.000 Yeah, the drug war.

00:26:12.000 Gone. 0.95

00:26:13.000 Nixon basically created the drug war to go after the black community, the black panthers and the hippies. 0.63

00:26:21.000 And so he created laws that he knew they were using weed.

00:26:25.000 And he was way easier to arrest.

00:26:26.000 But weed was already illegal.

00:26:27.000 Weed was illegal before that.

00:26:28.000 Before that first guy.

00:26:29.000 No lie. 0.94

00:26:32.000 The psychological origin of cannabis decriminalization in America was this one dude, I forget his name, he said marijuana makes white women want to sleep with negro jazz musicians.

00:26:50.000 That is the origin of cannabis criminalization in America.

00:26:56.000 Look it up.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, oh yeah, William Reynolds first, and he had the newspapers, he had the paper mills, so he was able to print the propaganda.

00:27:02.000 Exactly.

00:27:03.000 So saying is to say, now, okay, with 40, 50, however many years in, did you win this war?

00:27:09.000 No, and then they made LSD illegal.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, then they went after LSD and other drugs in the 60s and 70s.

00:27:15.000 Meanwhile, the Founding Fathers owned entire hemp farms.

00:27:20.000 It is a contradiction.

00:27:21.000 Look at George Washington's eyes on the $1 bill.

00:27:23.000 He looks stoned.

00:27:24.000 Blasted. 0.76

00:27:24.000 Looks like a dude that smoked for 40 years. 0.76

00:27:26.000 Blasted. 0.65

00:27:27.000 So hold on, hold on.

00:27:28.000 Let me ask you, man.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:29.000 Where'd you grow up?

00:27:30.000 Can I ask you?

00:27:30.000 Philly.

00:27:31.000 Philly.

00:27:31.000 North.

00:27:32.000 Do you think that- With an F. N-O-R-F. 1.00

00:27:34.000 I grew up in Chicago.

00:27:35.000 Yeah.

00:27:36.000 And my experience with cops in Chicago, very bad.

00:27:39.000 My experience with cops in smaller towns and suburbs?

00:27:41.000 Great.

00:27:42.000 Phenomenal.

00:27:43.000 Amazing, amazing, amazing.

00:27:44.000 Especially sheriffs.

00:27:46.000 And I think you made that point.

00:27:47.000 You elect sheriffs.

00:27:49.000 So they're accountable, they gotta get those votes, they gotta be careful.

00:27:52.000 In Chicago, I felt like you're faceless.

00:27:55.000 They don't know you, they don't care.

00:27:57.000 And so I think one of the issues is that once again, even when it comes to the gun debate, urban versus rural.

00:28:03.000 People who live out in the middle of nowhere are like, don't take my guns.

00:28:06.000 I need it.

00:28:06.000 What am I gonna do?

00:28:07.000 I can't call the cops.

00:28:08.000 People who live in cities are like, the cops are right there.

00:28:10.000 I can call them if I need to.

00:28:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:28:11.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 So people who live out in rural areas, even in suburban areas, where you've got smaller departments, you've got, and even some of these smaller suburban departments are militarized.

00:28:20.000 It's crazy.

00:28:21.000 They got MRAPs, armored vehicles, and all that stuff.

00:28:23.000 Right.

00:28:24.000 And so you have a lot of these people who have a more positive experience.

00:28:28.000 They're not going to understand what's going on in cities and why people in cities are

00:28:32.000 upset.

00:28:33.000 But the same is true in the other direction.

00:28:35.000 So when these people are like, we're going to abolish the police, that's like, I get

00:28:40.000 it man, but you're going from zero to 100 in two seconds.

00:28:44.000 Abolishing the police and still making everything lawful, it's very simple.

00:28:49.000 There should be police, and this part is my opinion, there should be police for crimes with actual victims.

00:28:58.000 Agreed.

00:28:59.000 So like, I think Trump should pardon, we've talked about this, like non-violent drug offenders.

00:29:03.000 Get out of here.

00:29:04.000 Review them to make sure they weren't pleading down, right?

00:29:07.000 You might have a guy who, like, beat the crap out of somebody but then took a plea.

00:29:10.000 This is where I disagree.

00:29:11.000 I believe that you go to jail for the thing that you are sentenced for.

00:29:17.000 You have a trial by jury of your peers, and they go, you know what, Tim?

00:29:22.000 That time you robbed Maj, we gotta give you two years.

00:29:26.000 And Tim's behind bars for two years.

00:29:28.000 Tim eats, works out.

00:29:30.000 Tim comes out super duper swole.

00:29:32.000 Tim should be able to get back to his life.

00:29:35.000 I agree.

00:29:36.000 Now to me, this is where again, objectivity and people get upset.

00:29:41.000 I don't care what your crime is.

00:29:43.000 I don't care if he's outside.

00:29:46.000 He's not a danger to society.

00:29:48.000 If he is a danger to society, he's not outside.

00:29:50.000 I don't know, man. 0.95

00:29:51.000 What if he's a pedo? 0.99

00:29:53.000 This is where it gets hairy. 0.99

00:29:54.000 Right.

00:29:54.000 Because these people will re-offend.

00:29:56.000 And if they do, they go back to jail.

00:29:59.000 Now, this is... But I can't... It's like Thomas Paine said, I can't... Let's be clear.

00:30:05.000 I think pedophiles are weirdos that... I want to say this without incriminating myself.

00:30:16.000 If you're a pedophile and I catch you, it's going to be a bad day for you. 0.99

00:30:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Or a last day for you?

00:30:28.000 Or a last day for you.

00:30:29.000 Potentially.

00:30:29.000 You never know.

00:30:30.000 It's the roll of the dice.

00:30:32.000 With that being the case, because I don't want to say it's like premeditated.

00:30:36.000 This is all hypothetical.

00:30:37.000 Right, right, right.

00:30:38.000 In defense of someone else.

00:30:39.000 In defense of another life.

00:30:41.000 Right? 1.00

00:30:43.000 I believe that that pedophile, that I think is the scum of the earth, should go to jail, should come outside, and he's paid his debt to society. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Do you support the death penalty? 1.00

00:30:55.000 Yes.

00:30:55.000 What would you give the death penalty for?

00:30:57.000 Um, for death. 0.98

00:30:59.000 You kill somebody at death penalty? 1.00

00:31:00.000 Yep. 0.94

00:31:01.000 If it's unjustified, like, like, like, like the weirdo, what's the, what's the kid, uh, that they took the Burger King?

00:31:08.000 Uh, Dylan Roof.

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 Right.

00:31:11.000 We're not wasting a bunch of time here.

00:31:13.000 Let's give him a, let's give him a trial by jury.

00:31:16.000 I'm, I'm extremely hard on people that take life. 0.97

00:31:21.000 I'm extremely hard on people that rape. 0.99

00:31:25.000 And for rape, I would have a different set of things, but death for me would be people that kill people. 0.99

00:31:31.000 You know, rape's an interesting one, because there's two kinds of- there's statutory rape, and then there's forced intercourse, and they're completely different experiences. 0.89

00:31:40.000 As someone that was falsely accused of statutory rape, That's an area with rape in general, but more specifically both of those.

00:31:49.000 I'm like, yo, we got a fine-toothed calmness because I know a dude that just came home for like 40 years.

00:31:56.000 For rape.

00:31:57.000 Statutory rape? 0.97

00:31:58.000 Regular.

00:31:58.000 See, I think we should change what that's called, statutory rape, into another word.

00:32:02.000 I think that rape is, and my homegirls always upset me when I say this, I think rape is forcible. 1.00

00:32:10.000 You know, remember when Aziz Ansari, the comedian... Yeah, like Bad Date. 0.97

00:32:15.000 Yeah, the girl said, like, he didn't threaten me, he didn't make me feel uncomfortable, but like, She wound up, you know, giving him fellatio twice that night.

00:32:25.000 And then she told her homegirl, was like, yo, I think, like, I didn't like it. 0.98

00:32:29.000 And she's like, oh girl, you were raped! 1.00

00:32:31.000 And the homegirl that she was talking to, like, wrote a piece on it. 0.98

00:32:34.000 Yep.

00:32:34.000 Mind you, he didn't, she, by her own admission, is like, he didn't force me, he didn't threaten me, he didn't make me feel uncomfortable after the fact.

00:32:43.000 Now, he's gonna, that's not rape! 1.00

00:32:45.000 Well, she did say she felt uncomfortable. 0.98

00:32:47.000 You felt uncomfortable, but you give him a BJ twice?

00:32:51.000 Because he did this, like, hey.

00:32:54.000 So I'll tell you right now, like, it's really interesting.

00:32:58.000 You consider yourself a libertarian?

00:32:59.000 Absolutely.

00:33:00.000 I'm a libertarian that has strong conservative values.

00:33:05.000 Right.

00:33:05.000 That's what I thought was interesting.

00:33:07.000 You mentioned you were for the death penalty.

00:33:09.000 Aren't libertarians mostly against it?

00:33:11.000 Yeah, they are.

00:33:11.000 Mostly.

00:33:12.000 A lot of libertarians are against border security.

00:33:16.000 Not me.

00:33:17.000 Right, exactly.

00:33:17.000 I'm with borders with nations that... Okay, so like, there's really, really beautiful women in India.

00:33:26.000 In Japan, right? 0.84

00:33:28.000 I can't like... Japan's not gonna let me go over there and just hang out forever. 0.98

00:33:32.000 After that visa's up, Japan's gonna be like, okay bro, time to get out of here. 1.00

00:33:39.000 If your nation doesn't let me hang out forever in your town, then our nation shouldn't let you hang out in our town.

00:33:50.000 And you can't have no open borders in like a welfare state.

00:33:53.000 You won't have a nation after that.

00:33:55.000 Exactly.

00:33:55.000 That's like Sweden.

00:33:56.000 You're right.

00:33:56.000 And you're not from the town.

00:33:57.000 Because if everybody's getting, if everyone's getting access to a social program.

00:34:01.000 And you're not from the town.

00:34:03.000 And they're not refilling that.

00:34:05.000 It would be like if you had a big pizza and you said anybody can come in and take the

00:34:09.000 pizza but only you gotta pay for it.

00:34:11.000 It's like, well I'm gonna stop paying for it.

00:34:13.000 Nope, you can't.

00:34:14.000 Well eventually there's no pizza left for anybody.

00:34:15.000 So that libertarian and strong, and a lot of conservatives call themselves conservatives

00:34:20.000 but they're really statists.

00:34:22.000 They're just Trump supporters that are riding the wave of President Trump, right?

00:34:27.000 Or they're statists.

00:34:28.000 Define statists.

00:34:29.000 A bootlicker.

00:34:33.000 A person that, you know, is, well, the government... Let me tell you, I'm sorry, man.

00:34:38.000 The people, when those cops came and took the guns from the McCloskeys, I was furious.

00:34:43.000 They didn't do anything wrong.

00:34:45.000 According to the law, according to the AG, they were defending their property, people broke out of their property, and the cops came, and the McCloskeys were like, turn around so no one sees you, and I'm like, no, these guys came and stole your guns, dude!

00:34:55.000 Now, here's the funny thing.

00:34:57.000 I agree with you, I think they were unsafe.

00:35:00.000 When I see the wife, three knuckles deep, going, no, go, like waving the gun, that's where they lose me.

00:35:07.000 If they would have been at the low, first of all, you got a scar face house with like a balcony.

00:35:13.000 Like you can be out the balcony.

00:35:15.000 And, like, you got the high ground.

00:35:17.000 Listen, listen, man.

00:35:18.000 I disagree.

00:35:18.000 You know why?

00:35:19.000 I think, I get what you're saying about her, you know, walking and pointing.

00:35:22.000 Yeah.

00:35:22.000 But, if you, if you, if you live on your house, you have a right to bear arms.

00:35:27.000 You do!

00:35:27.000 We can't, we can't, we can't be like, you have to have a certain skill level.

00:35:30.000 No, no, no, no.

00:35:31.000 I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I absolutely don't think that they, their firearms should have been taken.

00:35:35.000 I, right, right, right.

00:35:36.000 Absolutely.

00:35:36.000 I'm not saying, I'm not trying to apologize.

00:35:38.000 I'm saying as a, As a person that deals with conflict resolution.

00:35:43.000 So you gotta, you know how they be like, well we gotta look at the full story, right?

00:35:47.000 The full story.

00:35:48.000 They didn't break that gate down.

00:35:50.000 Now, did they trespass because they walked through where a sign was supposed to?

00:35:53.000 Yes, they did.

00:35:55.000 The back, further back story is, they weren't going to the McCluskey's house.

00:35:58.000 They were still on like a public street in a private neighborhood.

00:36:01.000 It was a private street.

00:36:02.000 It was a private street and it's a private street but not like on the McCluskey's like porch.

00:36:07.000 Right.

00:36:08.000 They were going past the McCluskey's house because a few days before that the mayor of that town lived in that town.

00:36:14.000 The mayor doxxed like protesters. 0.54

00:36:17.000 Literally read their addresses out.

00:36:18.000 Literally.

00:36:19.000 So okay you're reading our addresses out so we're gonna come to your address now.

00:36:25.000 They did trespass, because it was a private community.

00:36:28.000 They did not, like television was like, oh they just shook the door and broke the gate down.

00:36:32.000 I have the video of them, like some dude with like a, he looked like he was from the Purge, like a black suit on, like opening the door.

00:36:40.000 He was holding it open for him.

00:36:41.000 Yeah, now you still did trespass, because you crossed past that threshold.

00:36:45.000 Somebody did break the gate though.

00:36:47.000 Yes, because there's footage, not the people that initially walked in.

00:36:50.000 So they were walking past the McCluskey's house.

00:36:53.000 The McCluskeys, to their perspective, saw all of these people and they're like, what the hell is going on?

00:37:01.000 So they go out on their land.

00:37:03.000 Now, I disagree with them from a safety and conflict resolution standpoint.

00:37:10.000 Me, even if I completely disagreed with all those people walking past, I'm gonna de-escalate.

00:37:16.000 Even if I would have came out and went, You don't know what I think in my head.

00:37:22.000 They would have kept walking past the house.

00:37:24.000 Now, do the McCluskeys have to do that?

00:37:26.000 No.

00:37:26.000 They don't.

00:37:27.000 Where they lost me was when they started waving firearms at Americans and their lives were not in imminent danger.

00:37:35.000 That whole, like, fear for my life thing?

00:37:41.000 If you and I, as lawful and safe gun owners, we don't get to use... You can in some states.

00:37:48.000 I, because I can and should I, are two different things.

00:37:51.000 Could and should. 0.95

00:37:52.000 I'm not pulling my firearm out until it's time to shoot Jason Voorhees.

00:37:58.000 So, you're not supposed to point at something unless you're ready to destroy it.

00:38:00.000 Yep.

00:38:01.000 So, in that, yeah, like, I think the McCloskeys were violating, you know, a few of the cardinal rules.

00:38:07.000 Right.

00:38:07.000 But they said these people were threatening them.

00:38:10.000 Saying, we're going to take your house, we're going to burn it, that's going to be my room, things like that.

00:38:13.000 And let me ask you another question.

00:38:15.000 If you were in your house, and then you saw a large angry group, you know, come onto private property, and... Are they walking past?

00:38:24.000 You don't know.

00:38:25.000 There's just a large group and they're headed your direction.

00:38:27.000 I gotta watch.

00:38:28.000 And you see a dude pull out something that looks like a long black barrel and start pointing at your house.

00:38:33.000 What do you do?

00:38:34.000 Me?

00:38:34.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 I watch and I get cover.

00:38:37.000 If they point that at you, you're not going to get low ready.

00:38:39.000 You're not going to pull out your gun.

00:38:40.000 You're not going to say, hey, yo, what are you doing?

00:38:42.000 No.

00:38:42.000 First of all, in that scenario, I'm not coming outside.

00:38:45.000 Tactically, it's dumb to do that.

00:38:47.000 That's like if somebody breaks into my house. 0.97

00:38:49.000 I have a plan.

00:38:51.000 Someone breaks into my house, depending on what floor they're on and if it's late at night.

00:38:55.000 My family already has the plan of what we're going to do.

00:38:58.000 Everybody's going to locate in this room.

00:39:00.000 I got the AR ready.

00:39:01.000 I'm going to yell out.

00:39:03.000 We're armed.

00:39:04.000 The police have been called.

00:39:05.000 Please leave.

00:39:06.000 Once they get past a certain point, I am going to swish cheese them.

00:39:10.000 Now, for me, in that scenario that you give, some guys outside, I don't know if it's a firearm or not.

00:39:15.000 It looks like 300 people and they're walking past.

00:39:19.000 You don't know they're walking past?

00:39:20.000 I don't know that.

00:39:21.000 I have to watch. 0.91

00:39:22.000 Some people are yelling, we're going to burn your house down. 0.96

00:39:23.000 Cool. 0.98

00:39:24.000 Yell all day.

00:39:24.000 And then some dude takes his long black thing and he points it right at you.

00:39:27.000 Cool.

00:39:28.000 Do it.

00:39:28.000 I can find concealment and cover in my house.

00:39:31.000 From a tactical and strategic standpoint, that's what I do.

00:39:35.000 Would you fault someone for assuming that if someone, you know, in this mob and someone has something that looks like a long black barrel, would you fault someone for thinking, I gotta defend myself?

00:39:43.000 Yeah, but you don't defend yourself by going towards the gun. 1.00

00:39:46.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:39:47.000 That tells me that that person doesn't have training. 1.00

00:39:49.000 And I think that's obvious.

00:39:51.000 Like, it's just a chick doing this. 1.00

00:39:53.000 The reason I ask is because there's a photo, and a lot of people get this wrong.

00:39:56.000 I've seen this photo go around.

00:39:57.000 A guy's holding what looks like a shotgun mic.

00:40:01.000 A long shotgun.

00:40:02.000 And if you don't know anything about cameras, people are looking at this and there's a guy literally holding a long black barrel and pointing it at him.

00:40:09.000 And I see that and I'm like, he's got a shotgun mic on a DSLR.

00:40:11.000 It's a camera.

00:40:12.000 The McCloskeys might have saw that and were like, they're screaming at us, they're saying we're gonna burn your house down. 0.59

00:40:16.000 They didn't say that until after they came outside though.

00:40:20.000 See, the McCluskey's escalated that.

00:40:23.000 And I'm not saying they're... Be clear.

00:40:26.000 They're on their property.

00:40:28.000 I don't think that their gun should have been confiscated.

00:40:31.000 But they are not safe and responsible gun owners.

00:40:35.000 From a tactical perspective, you have the high ground, you have a stone house, you have concealment and cover.

00:40:42.000 You have rifles, you have the element of surprise.

00:40:44.000 You didn't take a second to wait and watch.

00:40:47.000 Now, if they come through the gate, they shootin', absolutely get busy.

00:40:55.000 Absolutely, but that's not what happened.

00:40:57.000 I feel like the challenge is... I definitely hear what you're saying.

00:41:00.000 I feel like the challenge is... What if somebody's a gun owner, and they're just really dumb? 0.97

00:41:05.000 But they're on their property, there's a crowd there.

00:41:09.000 You know, the challenge is, if you go to somebody else's house, and they're scared, even if they have no idea how to use a gun, they're holding it backwards and pointing it at themselves or whatever, it's like... No, I don't fault them at all.

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 But I think your points are fair.

00:41:24.000 They come out, they've got the rifle, and she's pointing it and waving it.

00:41:27.000 The teachable moment is, I want the McCluskeys to get training. 0.99

00:41:31.000 For sure.

00:41:33.000 And I don't want... I'm glad that no one was harmed.

00:41:38.000 I'm glad that...

00:41:42.000 It spoke to a bigger picture.

00:41:44.000 Do I think that the state should have showed up to take their guns?

00:41:47.000 Absolutely not.

00:41:47.000 I think that was like political theater.

00:41:50.000 I don't think they're gonna like face charges and no.

00:41:55.000 I see two bootlickers.

00:41:57.000 Two different kinds of bootlickers right now.

00:41:59.000 You've got people cheering on as the cops seize the weapon from gun owners who, for all their faults, had a legal right to defend their property.

00:42:06.000 But then you've got the other side.

00:42:08.000 You've got these businesses.

00:42:09.000 And this one, this one I'm actually, I empathize and I feel bad.

00:42:13.000 You've got businesses that literally get ransacked by, you know, anti-far leftist riders and then come out and say, but we support them.

00:42:20.000 That's bootlicking too.

00:42:21.000 I get it.

00:42:22.000 I get why.

00:42:24.000 So bootlicking has to be... So the term... Yes, I agree somewhat.

00:42:29.000 But the terminology and how the term bootlicking is used is tied to the state.

00:42:33.000 I get it.

00:42:34.000 For sure.

00:42:35.000 But yes, but I also understand there's guys that... My business has insurance.

00:42:40.000 They're gonna cake up.

00:42:42.000 So in Minneapolis, that's not what happened.

00:42:44.000 Maybe not, right.

00:42:44.000 So all of these businesses, because a handful of them, there's a big story about this, the rubble removal exceeded the cost that insurance covered.

00:42:53.000 Because most people didn't think they were gonna have to deal with a pile of smoldering rubble.

00:42:57.000 Right, right.

00:42:57.000 So it's like, they're done, they're gone forever.

00:42:59.000 It's like their lives are destroyed.

00:43:00.000 Right, and those are the areas where that Black Lives Matter movement It started from Ferguson.

00:43:12.000 Black Lives Matter was Trayvon Martin.

00:43:14.000 Even before Trayvon.

00:43:17.000 Trayvon and Mike Brown in Ferguson.

00:43:20.000 Darren Seals, there was a group of people, I went to Ferguson, talked to Mike Brown's dad, talked to Darren Seals who was a very powerful figure.

00:43:31.000 There's video of him saying, because it turned from the Ferguson movement to Black Lives Matter.

00:43:38.000 It got co-opted.

00:43:39.000 Years ago, before he was murdered, shot in the head, shot in a vehicle, I went to where- Wait, his dad was?

00:43:45.000 No, not Mike Brown.

00:43:46.000 Oh, oh, oh.

00:43:47.000 Darren Seals.

00:43:48.000 Oh, wow.

00:43:49.000 Three of the five men that started that Ferguson movement, three of them have been murdered.

00:43:54.000 Two of them shot in their car.

00:43:56.000 Darren Seals' car sat on fire.

00:43:59.000 The Ferguson Police Department is calling it a suicide.

00:44:03.000 Not even investigating it.

00:44:05.000 I went to that Ferguson market.

00:44:07.000 There's still law enforcement posted up at the Ferguson market.

00:44:11.000 I asked those law enforcement.

00:44:12.000 They're like, yeah.

00:44:14.000 They knew that there were two sets of videos.

00:44:17.000 They sent one to the Department of Justice.

00:44:19.000 All of these different things.

00:44:20.000 My point in saying that is, even Darren Seals said years ago, five, six years ago, Black Lives Matter as the organization just got $500,000 from Google.

00:44:31.000 It is not what we, it's been co-opted.

00:44:34.000 Five, six years ago.

00:44:36.000 What's up with this defensive looting stuff, man?

00:44:39.000 Because you're talking to a group of people that have been That experience that I had with law enforcement and your experience with law enforcement, we're not getting that same feeling from the suburban areas with law enforcement.

00:44:52.000 And if that has been your lived experience for decades, for the length of time, you're not going to come across police officers for like a bunch, but if you come across them five times and four of them are trash, and you have no experience of the other like good officers, So it becomes like, yo, you gotta remember, we don't own these buildings in the places that we live.

00:45:14.000 Yeah, but, I mean, people do.

00:45:16.000 And I get you.

00:45:17.000 Look at that firefighter in, you know about the firefighter in Minneapolis?

00:45:21.000 It was his dream, he saved up all this money, opened a sports bar, and they burn it, they set it on fire.

00:45:26.000 He shows up the next day, they're literally stealing his safe as he's arriving, and the news crews are filming, and he's crying.

00:45:32.000 They end up launching a GoFundMe for this guy.

00:45:34.000 The next day, the whole building was completely demolished.

00:45:36.000 The rioters and looters came back, destroyed everything.

00:45:39.000 So let's talk about this.

00:45:41.000 It's not the vast majority of the people from the community doing this.

00:45:44.000 Right, let me tell you a quick story, and the reason I bring this up.

00:45:47.000 I was in Ferguson when the riots were happening.

00:45:49.000 I got there like a day or two after they burned down that gas station.

00:45:53.000 And when the riots reignited and this looting started, a bunch of young black men linked arms and protected that market.

00:46:01.000 Correct.

00:46:04.000 I'm standing right next to these guys, and I'm with this dude who was previously with Al Jazeera.

00:46:08.000 He's now with, I believe he's with Vice.

00:46:10.000 And he asked them, what are you guys doing?

00:46:12.000 Why are you linking arms?

00:46:14.000 And he said, these people looting don't live here.

00:46:16.000 We do.

00:46:17.000 These people are taking advantage of us.

00:46:19.000 And he's like, but guess what?

00:46:21.000 The media's defending those people in defense of looting.

00:46:24.000 So they're coming from outside.

00:46:26.000 They're attacking these poor people.

00:46:28.000 who are desperate. You know what really, really made me angry, dude?

00:46:32.000 To see these young men facing down an angry mob saying, back off, it's our store. And then all these lefty

00:46:38.000 publications put out these stories saying, actually, they were looting

00:46:41.000 to fight back against capitalism.

00:46:43.000 Lying. Yeah. Media. Most effective devil in America.

00:46:46.000 Now they got a book, a book called Defensive Looting.

00:46:49.000 NPR interviews the author.

00:46:50.000 When I say, when I say a few weeks ago, I was in, I was in Philly, I was at Copa on 40th and, what is that?

00:46:57.000 Chestnut or something like that.

00:46:58.000 West Philly, 40th Street.

00:47:00.000 As I'm sitting outside having drinks, about 40 or 50 all-black Antifa start walking past.

00:47:08.000 I'm strapped, so I'm good.

00:47:10.000 I will light y'all all the way up if anything get goofy out here.

00:47:14.000 Those PAs got good gun laws, right? 0.99

00:47:15.000 Yeah, and I'm gonna be a legend.

00:47:18.000 Listen, I'm like Leonidas.

00:47:22.000 It's not, I cannot, if I die in defense of freedom, you know how, like, that's nothing more honorable to me.

00:47:30.000 Valhalla.

00:47:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:32.000 I got all, I'm floating in the pearly gates with, here comes like all of the hot girls of every universe are coming my way. 1.00

00:47:39.000 But I want to make sure we stress right now, you're saying you would die defending it.

00:47:42.000 Absolutely.

00:47:43.000 Not killing a bunch of people.

00:47:44.000 No.

00:47:44.000 Defending it.

00:47:45.000 Right, right, right.

00:47:46.000 And so, so I'm good.

00:47:47.000 I'm confident in my skill set.

00:47:51.000 So they're walking, and they got on all black. 0.56

00:47:53.000 But I'm like, it's clearly like, y'all are white dudes. 0.70

00:47:56.000 Totally. 0.83

00:47:57.000 Y'all are totally white dudes. 0.96

00:47:58.000 And I said, yo, it's no black people out. 0.99

00:48:00.000 They got the bats. 0.98

00:48:02.000 They got the bats.

00:48:02.000 It's like a scene from The Purge.

00:48:04.000 And I'm having my Copacabana, like I'm chilling. 0.59

00:48:06.000 And I'm like, yo, y'all all white, we're the black dudes. 0.92

00:48:08.000 And it was one dude that happened to be black.

00:48:10.000 He was like, we out here? 0.73

00:48:11.000 I'm like, no, you're out here.

00:48:13.000 The remaining 49 is like suburban white dudes. 0.83

00:48:16.000 And I said, y'all trying to get, y'all got that Soros money, huh?

00:48:20.000 And literally the dude says, we trying to.

00:48:23.000 Another dude says, we're trying to.

00:48:25.000 I lied to you not.

00:48:26.000 And I'm so mad that I didn't think, I didn't want to have a phone in my hand because they had bags.

00:48:31.000 I don't want to have a phone in my hand if I got to, you know, get busy.

00:48:35.000 So one of the dudes goes over to, if I'm lying, I'm flying, I swear, if y'all, anybody listening wants to do some independent journalism, Allegro's is the pizza shop across the street.

00:48:45.000 There's one of these dudes with a bat, goes over to the ATM thing and starts trying to hit it.

00:48:51.000 I get up, I'm like, yo!

00:48:53.000 Leave it alone, y'all not from here. 0.99

00:48:56.000 Y'all gonna get my community, I'm not even from West Philly.

00:48:59.000 Y'all gonna get my community called out for this, leave it alone, and they leave.

00:49:04.000 And they leave.

00:49:06.000 The people that's doing this, come on bro, it's pallets of bricks just conveniently left at places.

00:49:11.000 Y'all are bussing people in.

00:49:13.000 The media debunked all of that?

00:49:15.000 What?

00:49:16.000 The pallets of bricks just conveniently placed in all these random places?

00:49:18.000 Bro, that's the same thing as saying like, I got video of it, that's the same thing as saying like, my homie's saying, yo Maj, look, I'm FaceTiming you, see this crate of guns in Chicago?

00:49:29.000 No, that's not a thing.

00:49:30.000 I'm not saying the media's right.

00:49:32.000 Yeah.

00:49:33.000 Here's what I love, right?

00:49:34.000 I don't want to get sidetracked, so we'll try and loop this back, but Tucker Carlson had this woman on.

00:49:40.000 She's a whistleblower. 1.00

00:49:41.000 She said that she worked at the University of Hong Kong.

00:49:43.000 She knows that China released COVID or whatever.

00:49:46.000 Tucker Carlson had her on, and he gets flagged.

00:49:48.000 It's fake news.

00:49:50.000 They put warnings and blocks on a bunch of his content.

00:49:54.000 And then all of a sudden, the media starts claiming that he had on a conspiracy theory, and I'm like, well, hold on, hold on.

00:49:58.000 Personally, I don't believe it.

00:50:00.000 I really, I don't believe it was like a bioweapon or anything like that.

00:50:03.000 But who, why do we get to choose which expert is a real expert and which expert isn't?

00:50:07.000 Who are the fact checkers? 0.99

00:50:08.000 So I'll tell you my personal bias.

00:50:11.000 I think, you know, again, I don't want to derail into COVID stuff.

00:50:14.000 I'm like, look, man, if you tell me that there was a unsanitary market where they're like got all this really nasty stuff going on and then some like virus emerged from it, I'm going to be like, it's a simple solution, man.

00:50:23.000 It makes sense.

00:50:24.000 However, I do see the problem of the media in that You can have Trump come out and be like, here's a handful of studies that say this thing is a good thing, and then the media just says it's not.

00:50:33.000 So the media doesn't get to be the arbiter of truth simply for saying it.

00:50:36.000 So that was my point of reference to the bricks being lying around everywhere.

00:50:39.000 All they did for the most part was say, oh it's actually not true because we were told it's not true.

00:50:42.000 Right, and so I get flagged for stuff like, I posted what Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in regards to getting a nominee for SCOTUS during the last year of the thing.

00:50:53.000 Right, right.

00:50:54.000 She said it.

00:50:55.000 It's not me.

00:50:56.000 I'm not like fake quoting her.

00:50:57.000 You're not Mitch McConnell.

00:50:58.000 You didn't come out and like complain about Merrick Garland.

00:51:01.000 No, I just quoted what she said.

00:51:03.000 Instagram's like, oh, well, this is partially true because the date... Bro, cut it out.

00:51:08.000 Cut it out.

00:51:09.000 Dude, you know what they did to me?

00:51:10.000 What?

00:51:11.000 I tweeted.

00:51:12.000 So when the Virginia Giuffre leaks came out about Epstein, I tweeted something to the effect of, Bill Clinton was in these flight logs, and now a witness has ID'd him as having been on the island.

00:51:23.000 This would be big news.

00:51:25.000 Journalism is dead.

00:51:26.000 It's just political advocacy at this point.

00:51:28.000 Somebody took a screenshot.

00:51:29.000 It got like 10,000, 12,000 retweets.

00:51:32.000 Somebody screenshotted it, posted it to Facebook, where this fact-checking company, which is only a couple guys apparently, but they get this access, called it fake, false information.

00:51:40.000 And so when I went to the, I looked at it and it said, here's the fact check.

00:51:45.000 The fact check said everything I claimed was 100% correct.

00:51:48.000 Yet they still put the fake tag on it.

00:51:50.000 Media, most effective devil in America.

00:51:53.000 These are all, these are all reasons why when I go say things like the Breonna Taylor scenario, like COVID, like this, like that.

00:52:03.000 The media, for a very long time, has been the arm of whatever political side of the government.

00:52:10.000 So you get this part extreme, you get that part extreme.

00:52:13.000 So when law enforcement says, oh, we knocked on the door.

00:52:18.000 When law enforcement says, oh, it wasn't us that dropped the bomb in Philadelphia on a residential block.

00:52:28.000 I don't believe you.

00:52:29.000 Now if you prove to me that you're accurate, I'll go eat my hat.

00:52:35.000 But believe you?

00:52:36.000 This is a big ethical challenge too.

00:52:40.000 So I would say idealistically, like when I take those political compass tests, I'm left libertarian.

00:52:45.000 I get really offended when people claim Antifa is left libertarian.

00:52:48.000 They're not.

00:52:49.000 The hippies are.

00:52:50.000 The people chilling on the farm, enjoying the sun, minding their own business.

00:52:53.000 What do you mean by more authority?

00:52:55.000 when it comes to policy, I become more of a liberal because I think we do need

00:52:59.000 more authority. And I'll tell you... What do you mean by more authority? I'm not

00:53:03.000 saying authoritarianism and I'm not even saying most authority, just a little bit,

00:53:07.000 right? So you mean a little bit more or a little bit like a limited

00:53:13.000 government? I'm saying a little bit more...

00:53:16.000 I think you need a little bit more authority than libertarianism.

00:53:19.000 That's my opinion.

00:53:20.000 Okay.

00:53:21.000 And so the example I think that everyone loves to cite is, I don't know if you've ever heard, it's like the shopping cart problem.

00:53:27.000 That the shopping cart is the perfect example of human civilization.

00:53:32.000 You use it.

00:53:33.000 The shopping cart is a free thing for you to use.

00:53:36.000 You get your stuff.

00:53:37.000 You're allowed to carry your stuff to your car.

00:53:38.000 And then all you gotta do is put it in the corral.

00:53:40.000 You gotta walk ten feet.

00:53:42.000 But guess what people do?

00:53:43.000 They just kick it.

00:53:44.000 They just dump it on the ground in a random spot.

00:53:47.000 And they're like, there's no obligation to do it.

00:53:49.000 The only reason you should is because it would be better for everyone else.

00:53:53.000 But people still choose not to. 0.98

00:53:56.000 It's a serious ethical conundrum that I often think about is recognizing where the lines are in terms of when do we say people are too stupid or when do we say let them do whatever they want.

00:54:11.000 When people were living very far apart and there were very few people, you have a bigger bubble of freedom. 0.78

00:54:17.000 You have more space, right?

00:54:18.000 So one of the reasons I want to move out to the middle of nowhere, where we are now, is that I can go in my backyard and I can set up my archery practice and everything.

00:54:25.000 I don't have to worry about neighbors because there's nothing around me.

00:54:27.000 It's great.

00:54:28.000 I watch these videos of people firing guns and they walk out into their open space and they've got the range set up with all the dirt and all that stuff and I'm like, you can't do that in a city.

00:54:36.000 The closer you get to other people, the more your bubble starts shrinking and the amount of freedom you get starts shrinking.

00:54:41.000 And it's because we're desperately trying to accommodate each other, and then you start stacking laws on top of laws.

00:54:47.000 I think that's the problem, is people live too smashed together.

00:54:51.000 So I do agree with that, in regards to... You have to be more... Woah, woah, sorry bro.

00:54:56.000 Yeah.

00:54:56.000 We got breaking news.

00:54:57.000 What?

00:54:58.000 30 seconds ago, police offi... so this is legit?

00:55:00.000 Where's this from?

00:55:02.000 Luke Rudkowski of We Are Chains just tweeted breaking.

00:55:05.000 Police officer shot near protest in Louisville, Kentucky.

00:55:09.000 The video we have—we have it pulled up?

00:55:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:55:12.000 So, it doesn't show anything graphic.

00:55:14.000 It's just a shaky video.

00:55:15.000 People are yelling.

00:55:16.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:55:18.000 I want to be very careful here.

00:55:19.000 This is breaking coming from Luke Rudkowski.

00:55:22.000 You got to understand whenever it comes to breaking news, everybody got to realize information will change.

00:55:29.000 So we're live right now.

00:55:30.000 We're talking about this.

00:55:31.000 And of course, we're tracking this information.

00:55:33.000 I'll tell you, this is why I want to live in the middle of nowhere, too, dude.

00:55:35.000 Yeah.

00:55:35.000 But anyway.

00:55:36.000 Oh, I'm out in 2022.

00:55:38.000 I'm Thanos on my planet.

00:55:41.000 Thanos in your garden. 0.98

00:55:42.000 But are you going to kill half the population before you go to your farm? 0.83

00:55:45.000 If I don't have to, hopefully not. 0.78

00:55:47.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:48.000 So, so, okay, so anyway, just, we're gonna keep tracking the breaking news, uh, Lydie'll

00:55:51.000 keep an eye on it.

00:55:52.000 But you, uh, let's go back to that point.

00:55:54.000 We're talking about liberty, authority, how much space you had.

00:55:56.000 I agree in that you have, you have to be, it's like shooting.

00:56:01.000 I have to be more, if I have open space, my...

00:56:04.000 Yosemite Sam, dude!

00:56:05.000 Bang! 1.00

00:56:06.000 Bang! 1.00

00:56:06.000 I know that any direction is, you know, more than likely not a human or not something that I'm willing to destroy. 1.00

00:56:14.000 I know my target and what's beyond it.

00:56:16.000 You can't do that when there's more people around.

00:56:18.000 So I do agree there.

00:56:20.000 I don't think that your freedom Not the act of owning guns, that doesn't shrink.

00:56:27.000 The, where I shoot them, because there's more people around, as a safe, responsible gun owner, that does shrink.

00:56:33.000 So, it's, it's, it's, this is interesting. 0.94

00:56:35.000 I remember, remember, remember when they banned cigarettes everywhere?

00:56:38.000 Like, when they- No.

00:56:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:40.000 When they started saying you can't smoke inside bars- Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:43.000 Like, no, not, not a no-smoking zone, but like, no, in this whole building.

00:56:47.000 Man, I remember this because this was going down in Chicago when I was like, I think I was late teens or like early twenties or it was like, I don't know.

00:56:53.000 I remember how old I was, but it was very, it was like around the time Obama was running and stuff.

00:56:57.000 So I'm like, I'm this urban liberal.

00:56:59.000 I had my, you know, teenage angst, punk rock phase.

00:57:03.000 And then I started aged out.

00:57:04.000 I became more of a liberal.

00:57:05.000 I was like, Oh, Obama.

00:57:06.000 But when I heard what they were doing with banning cigarettes, I immediately was like, why are they banning people from smoking?

00:57:11.000 And they were like, oh because it's bad for you.

00:57:13.000 And I was like, so don't go to the bar.

00:57:15.000 And they were like, but what if I wanna go to the bar?

00:57:17.000 Then go to a different bar.

00:57:18.000 And they were like, but all the bars allow smoking.

00:57:20.000 I'm like, then open a bar that doesn't.

00:57:22.000 Simple.

00:57:22.000 But instead, they pass a law banning all restaurants.

00:57:25.000 You know what they did?

00:57:26.000 I was in Arizona.

00:57:27.000 This is awesome.

00:57:27.000 I was hanging out with a friend of mine.

00:57:29.000 She was a bartender. 1.00

00:57:30.000 They cut a tiny one square foot hole in the roof to be classified as outdoors. 1.00

00:57:34.000 And I'm like, it's the stupidest thing I ever heard. 0.95

00:57:36.000 You made them take a saw and cut through their roof, and now you're still gonna allow them to operate like a normal bar. 1.00

00:57:42.000 It's the dumbest thing. 0.98

00:57:44.000 But you know what's beautiful about that? 1.00

00:57:46.000 So let's go back to that.

00:57:48.000 You made a law that now, as a person that smokes cigars, I smoke cigars.

00:57:54.000 If I smoke this cigar and don't put it out and then don't leave, you'll call a person with a gun to potentially come kill me for smoking the cigar.

00:58:06.000 Well, it's because inhaling the smoke is... See, I disagree with you guys.

00:58:09.000 I used to work at a bar, and I was economically bound to it.

00:58:13.000 So when they couldn't smoke inside, I was able to breathe.

00:58:16.000 My life expectancy went up, I'm sure.

00:58:19.000 My dad used to smoke in the house, and it was just horrible.

00:58:22.000 Then my mom made him smoke outside.

00:58:24.000 So much better.

00:58:25.000 But my aunt and uncle still smoked in the house.

00:58:27.000 I didn't ever want to go over to their house.

00:58:29.000 It was just disgusting trying to eat in a restaurant when people were smoking, like, across the room.

00:58:35.000 Go eat somewhere else, man. 0.97

00:58:36.000 But every restaurant you could smoke at, it was disgusting.

00:58:39.000 Don't eat out.

00:58:39.000 That's on you, though.

00:58:42.000 That's on you.

00:58:43.000 Yeah, don't eat out.

00:58:43.000 Basically, it was like, if you don't want to participate in society... Or open a restaurant that says, we don't allow smoking.

00:58:51.000 So for example, the masks, freedom over everything.

00:58:56.000 Sorry bro, unless you're like the kid that's like, Ryan, you're 14, you're not getting $20 million, so it's over for you till you're 18.

00:59:03.000 But, in that scenario, the free market is the answer.

00:59:09.000 Take the mask thing.

00:59:11.000 I don't want to wear a mask.

00:59:13.000 I think that this is a sham.

00:59:15.000 I think that it's real because I immediately started a group chat with people that worked in the ER, paramedics, virologists, people that are way smarter than me saying, hey, what's going on?

00:59:27.000 What is happening here?

00:59:28.000 And they're like, no, no, no, it's real.

00:59:30.000 This is how people are dying.

00:59:32.000 But media is making it way bigger than what it is.

00:59:35.000 So early on, I was like, yep, not doing it.

00:59:38.000 With the mask, I agree, because I can't smell it.

00:59:40.000 I'm not physically affected.

00:59:41.000 Whether I'm totally physically affected by it, I don't know.

00:59:44.000 It's really simple.

00:59:44.000 The mask is just so you don't spit on people.

00:59:48.000 Right.

00:59:49.000 Or you could just not spit on people.

00:59:51.000 Well, no, no.

00:59:52.000 People don't realize, man.

00:59:53.000 They really don't.

00:59:55.000 People talk and spit happens.

00:59:57.000 Here's the thing.

00:59:59.000 Spit's been happening.

01:00:01.000 The death rate... Now that we have data, right?

01:00:03.000 I get in the beginning.

01:00:04.000 You're nervous about... Man, this is unprecedented.

01:00:08.000 Cool, I'm with you.

01:00:09.000 But then, I was at my bunker.

01:00:11.000 I was like, oh, this is what we trained for.

01:00:13.000 I thought it was, remember how YouTube was snatching off all of the like, people in China were like, just passing out.

01:00:19.000 Like, just falling.

01:00:20.000 And when it gets snatched off of YouTube, I'm like, bro, like.

01:00:24.000 That was crazy.

01:00:25.000 And it was gone.

01:00:26.000 Because they couldn't breathe, and they're just falling over.

01:00:28.000 And so I was like, I went to my bunker, and I was like, yeah man, this might be like, The Walking Dead.

01:00:34.000 This might be it.

01:00:35.000 That's what I thought.

01:00:36.000 I don't know about The Walking Dead, but we were like, This is it!

01:00:39.000 He's serious, man.

01:00:40.000 Now me, I was like, I got too many rounds.

01:00:43.000 I'm ready.

01:00:45.000 How many rounds per gun?

01:00:47.000 They say you should have at least a thousand per gun.

01:00:49.000 I think you were saying that, right?

01:00:51.000 Anyway, continue, continue.

01:00:52.000 So I said, let me wait to the McCluskey's point.

01:00:56.000 I was like, just wait a little bit.

01:00:57.000 Just wait and see.

01:00:58.000 And I said, if I see two people in Philly drop out, oh, it's go time.

01:01:04.000 Nobody dropped.

01:01:06.000 I'm looking at nobody dying.

01:01:08.000 I'm looking at the inconsistencies in the story.

01:01:11.000 I had people that worked at hospitals telling me the CDC was changing the guidelines. 0.98

01:01:17.000 I'm like, oh no, this is trash. 0.90

01:01:19.000 There were too many holes in the story. 0.79

01:01:21.000 So I made a choice to go, yeah, I'm not wearing it.

01:01:23.000 And then I made myself the guinea pig.

01:01:26.000 I went to all of the hot spots.

01:01:28.000 All of them.

01:01:30.000 I've been to Miami, Orlando.

01:01:32.000 The Libertarian Convention was in Orlando.

01:01:35.000 I jet skied.

01:01:36.000 I went to Texas like three times.

01:01:37.000 I've been to every hotspot for New York.

01:01:41.000 Every hotspot in America, twice, since this started, no mask.

01:01:47.000 Got on airplanes, no mask, no mask, no mask.

01:01:49.000 The airlines didn't make you do it?

01:01:51.000 In the beginning. 1.00

01:01:52.000 Now they on some like, hey man, and I'm like, yo, this is stupid, right? 0.94

01:01:56.000 So what I did was, I was like, I don't wanna argue with y'all every time I get on a plane.

01:02:02.000 And technically, even y'all took a lot of government bailout money, you technically are kind of a private entity, but you're not, but, I'm gonna go get a RV, and that's what I did.

01:02:13.000 This is a really good discussion for, like, liberal versus libertarian.

01:02:17.000 Not that libertarians are all, like—liberal typically refers to, like, a center-left.

01:02:22.000 And the way I view it is, if—maybe if I had more faith in humanity, I would just stick to straight-up libertarian ideals.

01:02:30.000 I think the mask is a good example of where we probably disagree.

01:02:33.000 My attitude is just wear the mask.

01:02:34.000 Like, I hear a lot of people say, like, it's, you know— But why?

01:02:39.000 It's not a big deal.

01:02:40.000 It's just, you choose your battles.

01:02:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:42.000 You choose when to fight.

01:02:44.000 I view it kind of like being stealthy and being, you know, I don't want to say subversive, but stealthy, I guess is the easy way to put it.

01:02:55.000 No one can see me.

01:02:56.000 I can move a little bit easier.

01:02:57.000 Right, right, right.

01:02:58.000 I don't want to start fights for no reason.

01:03:01.000 I want to make sure that everything I do is targeted, specific, and I'm on a mission.

01:03:04.000 But it's not for no reason.

01:03:06.000 Do you, like, so based on after the data comes out, right?

01:03:09.000 The data's come out.

01:03:09.000 Even the CDC's like, okay bro, you got us.

01:03:12.000 Well, so there's political, social, and physical reasons, right?

01:03:18.000 Right.

01:03:18.000 So I think, right now, when you look at the death rate, there's two perspectives.

01:03:23.000 One, it's like we crushed the curve, man.

01:03:25.000 15 days of sluggish spread turned into 170. 0.95

01:03:27.000 It's ridiculous.

01:03:28.000 Right. 0.84

01:03:29.000 Now we're just destroying the economy.

01:03:30.000 So why are we complying with it in a symbolistic way?

01:03:34.000 No, that's the lockdowns, though.

01:03:35.000 But the lockdowns are based on the masks.

01:03:39.000 Those are part and parcel.

01:03:41.000 So, so if there's a... Compliance isn't wearing a mask.

01:03:47.000 Compliance is, you know, non-compliance is Dr. King going like, because I'm pretty sure there was some people going, first of all, the mask thing isn't, this is a rerun.

01:03:58.000 The anti-mask people happened back in the day with polio, especially like in Philly.

01:04:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:04.000 And Spanish flu.

01:04:05.000 Spanish flu, excuse me, I said polio.

01:04:07.000 So, not wearing the mask isn't that it's not for nothing.

01:04:12.000 It's, I'm not complying with something that's not based in science.

01:04:16.000 It's not what you lied to me about.

01:04:19.000 I disagree.

01:04:20.000 They lied!

01:04:21.000 The models were based on things... Well, hold on, hold on.

01:04:24.000 So, I think the challenge is, were they wrong?

01:04:27.000 Yes.

01:04:28.000 So that's different from a lie?

01:04:29.000 No, no, no, no.

01:04:31.000 Initially, the first person, you guys know that this, the guy that over in, what was it, Oxford, that was like, hey, this is how many people could die if we do nothing.

01:04:41.000 Oh, that, that, that, that, that.

01:04:42.000 Right, right, right.

01:04:43.000 That was the entire model.

01:04:45.000 Models are what you use as predictions when you don't have data.

01:04:50.000 So that guy was wrong.

01:04:51.000 They based their number off of that.

01:04:54.000 Fauci knew Mr. Devious.

01:04:58.000 He straight up said, we told people not to wear masks because we were worried medical professionals wouldn't be able to get them.

01:05:04.000 Which is a lie.

01:05:05.000 Well, right.

01:05:06.000 Exactly.

01:05:06.000 And he keeps lying.

01:05:08.000 So, so what we have is the overarching theme in tonight's episode is government officials consistently lying.

01:05:14.000 Well, with the mask, I agree with kind of both you guys.

01:05:17.000 I think it's, you don't know whether they're right or they're wrong.

01:05:19.000 So why are you being forced to do it?

01:05:21.000 But when you're talking about smoke, I want to go back to smoking.

01:05:23.000 Because if we want to talk about government making laws for people and overreaching, I think this is a system where if one person wants to screw it up for everyone else, we have to make laws so that they can't.

01:05:34.000 Because people are selfish and drugs are addictive.

01:05:38.000 Some drugs, especially nicotine.

01:05:39.000 No!

01:05:39.000 So, oh yeah.

01:05:41.000 This is what got rid of peanuts on airplanes. 1.00

01:05:43.000 Well, that's taken it a little far.

01:05:45.000 But that's what they did, right?

01:05:45.000 Because too many peanut shells?

01:05:47.000 No, no, because people were allergic to peanuts.

01:05:48.000 Ricky, Ricky, I think it's Ricky Gervais who got a cigarette.

01:05:51.000 I'm talking about smoke in the air.

01:05:52.000 You've seen his bit on this?

01:05:53.000 That's also different than smoke.

01:05:54.000 He's like, now I can't eat peanuts.

01:05:56.000 No, because the peanut dust can get in the air and can kill somebody.

01:05:58.000 Oh, I see.

01:05:58.000 So, look man, I understand maybe the peanut thing, because you got a lot of people allergic to peanuts.

01:06:07.000 And if you're in a closed cabin with recirculated air, you can die.

01:06:10.000 We're basically saying this group of people can't fly.

01:06:13.000 Did you hear, what's his name?

01:06:18.000 What's the comedian's name with the red hair?

01:06:20.000 Louie.

01:06:22.000 Whoa, dude.

01:06:23.000 I'm sorry, man.

01:06:24.000 We're gonna take this breaking story.

01:06:25.000 Let's just go for it, dude.

01:06:26.000 Breaking news, everybody.

01:06:28.000 This is from the Police Tribune.

01:06:30.000 Is this a verified source?

01:06:32.000 BlueLivesMatter.blue.

01:06:34.000 This is a verified news guard source.

01:06:36.000 Okay, it's not giving me the actual breakdown.

01:06:38.000 Two officers down.

01:06:40.000 Two cops down.

01:06:41.000 In Louisville?

01:06:42.000 Shots fired at Louisville riots.

01:06:43.000 Officer down.

01:06:44.000 They're saying, update, two officers are now reported to be down.

01:06:47.000 The shooting happened at around 8.30 p.m.

01:06:49.000 near Brooke and Broadway, according to WDRB.

01:06:52.000 Officers in the area were working on crowd control at a riot when the gunshots rang out and two officers were hit.

01:06:58.000 The condition of the wounded officers has not been released.

01:07:00.000 No information about the shooter has been released.

01:07:02.000 So we've got a tweet here from Fallon Glick, verified Twitter user.

01:07:07.000 And Twitter's giving us the business.

01:07:08.000 I want to make sure.

01:07:08.000 I want to see what her credentials are.

01:07:09.000 She says she confirms an officer was just shot.

01:07:12.000 She's with WDRB News.

01:07:15.000 And so I don't know where the update is on the second officer, but it looks like... Let me read what they say.

01:07:20.000 They say, authorities began planning for violent riots in the city.

01:07:23.000 This we know.

01:07:24.000 The LMPD declared a state of emergency.

01:07:25.000 We get it.

01:07:26.000 So I think these are the updates we're looking at right now.

01:07:28.000 So let's do this, man.

01:07:30.000 I hate to shift from the conversation because it was getting funny.

01:07:32.000 We'll go back to Louis CK.

01:07:33.000 But this is some serious stuff, man.

01:07:37.000 Look, we got you here, Maj.

01:07:39.000 You're the guy from Black Guns Matter.

01:07:42.000 Tell us, like, what are your thoughts on that?

01:07:44.000 Because everybody knows what I think when we talk about this stuff.

01:07:46.000 The universe is self-correcting on the state.

01:07:49.000 First of all, condolences to those officers.

01:07:53.000 I don't know if they had anything to do with any of that.

01:07:56.000 Random plot twists might be that they were actually the guys that's like, look, I'm trying to help.

01:08:01.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:01.000 And that could be the case.

01:08:02.000 I don't know them.

01:08:03.000 But until I know them to be good or bad, my initial reaction is, yo, hope those guys pull through.

01:08:09.000 Yeah, man.

01:08:10.000 Did you watch all Game of Thrones before it got garbage? 0.84

01:08:14.000 No, no, no.

01:08:14.000 So listen, literally, literally, I started watching Game of Thrones about four or five months ago.

01:08:21.000 I had never saw it.

01:08:23.000 And I was like, wizards, dragons, I don't know.

01:08:26.000 There's no wizards, I don't think.

01:08:27.000 Right.

01:08:28.000 But that's how I was- There kind of is.

01:08:29.000 Right.

01:08:30.000 And so, that's an ama- I wouldn't have- Sidebar, I wouldn't have killed Khaleesi if I was Jon Snow.

01:08:34.000 Alright, so anyway, here's why I bring this up.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:36.000 Because there was a- one of the story arcs in one of the- I can't remember which season it was, is Khaleesi takes over a slaver town.

01:08:42.000 Yes.

01:08:42.000 And then executes all of the privileged class, like the elite class.

01:08:46.000 Yeah.

01:08:47.000 And then this young man comes and says, my father was the one fighting to free them.

01:08:51.000 The one who was providing them with comfort.

01:08:53.000 You killed him. 0.71

01:08:54.000 And he was a good guy. 0.78

01:08:55.000 And that to me is like... Look, man.

01:08:58.000 That's the crux.

01:08:59.000 You know what I can't stand for?

01:09:01.000 The system being broken.

01:09:03.000 Being broken.

01:09:04.000 And then... Look, there are certain things...

01:09:09.000 It's such a hard ethical conundrum, man.

01:09:11.000 There are certain things where we just see it and it must be stopped, right?

01:09:15.000 Genocides.

01:09:16.000 Right.

01:09:16.000 We're talking right now about a system with a high margin of error in certain areas that needs to be corrected.

01:09:21.000 Correct.

01:09:22.000 To go up to some, like, these cops, I'll tell you what, man.

01:09:26.000 These cops are probably sitting at home.

01:09:28.000 They're probably playing PS4.

01:09:29.000 They're probably playing Skyrim or some simple game.

01:09:32.000 Dude's probably 28, 30.

01:09:34.000 He's got a kid.

01:09:34.000 He's got a wife.

01:09:35.000 And they say, hey man, there's going to be protests tonight.

01:09:38.000 And he's like, oh, I guess they're needing me to come in.

01:09:41.000 His wife's like, be careful. 1.00

01:09:42.000 This is getting crazy.

01:09:43.000 We've been watching the news.

01:09:44.000 He doesn't know anything about these people.

01:09:46.000 He doesn't know anything about Trump.

01:09:47.000 He doesn't know anything about Biden.

01:09:48.000 I mean, at this point, people are probably very political.

01:09:50.000 But you're probably getting these guys who are just like, I don't know, man.

01:09:53.000 I gotta go to work.

01:09:55.000 I'm going to work.

01:09:55.000 They told me we gotta keep people safe.

01:09:58.000 I want to make sure that these protests are safe and none of this happens, and then boom, shot to the head.

01:10:02.000 The system's busted, but come on, man.

01:10:06.000 These people got families.

01:10:07.000 They're people.

01:10:08.000 I agree with that.

01:10:09.000 And as a human, our three-step method is empathy, facts, solution.

01:10:15.000 I gotta deal with empathy first before I can start talking about the data.

01:10:19.000 Right?

01:10:19.000 Then we can come up with a solution together.

01:10:21.000 So, empathy first.

01:10:23.000 The fact of the matter is, just like Breonna Taylor was killed, right?

01:10:28.000 And it's the state's fault, and it's systemic.

01:10:31.000 Those officers, that blood is on that same... Who's the person that wrote the warrant?

01:10:38.000 The guy that they were looking for was already in custody.

01:10:43.000 So when are we talking about that person being held accountable?

01:10:47.000 It's just, the problem is... All of the death from that?

01:10:51.000 And you got a Soros crew that's going to jump in and hyper-extend it and turn it up and media and ratings and all this other stuff.

01:10:59.000 I want to switch it up on you though.

01:11:00.000 I want to say Mackenzie Bezos.

01:11:02.000 Okay.

01:11:03.000 She's directly funded, I think, $2 billion straight into intersectional far-left organizations and stuff as well. 0.99

01:11:09.000 I'm mentioning that because whenever the Soros name pops up, I'm like, oh, let's name all the billionaires.

01:11:14.000 Let's name all the millionaires and the billionaires funding this stuff.

01:11:17.000 It turns into, um, now this is the part where again, my hood friends would go like, come on bro.

01:11:24.000 It's like, there's people that have generated resources from America that still feel like they have to knock down America where they actually live.

01:11:40.000 Well, because I'm a billionaire and I may actually be a citizen of like Monaco.

01:11:45.000 You know what I think it is?

01:11:47.000 I think a lot of these rich people are funding the far left in hopes that if there ever is a revolution, they're the good ones, right?

01:11:55.000 I could see that.

01:11:56.000 It's not gonna work.

01:11:57.000 It's not gonna work because of the fact that there were people... Remember in the movie The Dark Knight with Bane?

01:12:03.000 Yeah.

01:12:03.000 I think Warren Buffett said this.

01:12:05.000 I could be wrong, so please don't sue me, Warren Buffett, but just fact check this.

01:12:08.000 coming to holla at you. That's the way it works. You know what I'm saying? And so it's that same concept.

01:12:12.000 I think Warren Buffett said this. I could be wrong, so please don't sue me, Warren Buffett,

01:12:16.000 but just fact check this. Something about that, you know, he did this thing where he called on

01:12:21.000 billionaires to donate a big portion of their wealth. And he alluded to the fact that with

01:12:26.000 all the Occupy stuff and the challenge of the 1%, the rich were too rich. And if they sat back and

01:12:32.000 kept doing the same thing they always did, eventually pitchforks are going to show up.

01:12:36.000 Napoleon said, religion is here, so the poor don't murder the rich.

01:12:43.000 Did he really say that?

01:12:45.000 Napoleon Bonaparte.

01:12:46.000 So are these the pitchforks?

01:12:48.000 So yeah, and so some of that is, some of that is, listen, and this is where I might get a little, ooh, right?

01:12:54.000 America has not atoned, our nation, where we all live, has not atoned for some of the horrible, disgusting stains that we have on our flag.

01:13:06.000 Karma, in my view, in my life and lived experience, is real.

01:13:10.000 We haven't acknowledged, you haven't even had the conversation about reparations with black people.

01:13:15.000 You haven't had it and then you'll say, well, who's going to pay for it?

01:13:19.000 I'm not going to pay for it.

01:13:20.000 We can't do that.

01:13:21.000 Then you print up $3 trillion and the government gets really quiet and everybody seems to know how to get along.

01:13:30.000 Then I was, except for my good friend, Thomas Massey, the one loan Constitutional libertarian dude that had to run Republican says no I'm not gonna quietly not vote on this largest wealth transfer in American history socialism so you haven't atoned for the vilest type of because all slavery has existed in in time immemorial but the Mafa 0.87

01:14:00.000 The millions of melanated beings that were murdered that created the economic infrastructure of America, the place that we live, right, that I love, because I'm not one of those, like, slavery happened, burned down America.

01:14:13.000 Bro, I like Wi-Fi.

01:14:15.000 I like Dunkin' Donuts.

01:14:17.000 I love where I live.

01:14:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:14:19.000 Cheeseburgers on demand, bro.

01:14:20.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:14:21.000 Yeah.

01:14:21.000 With this being the case, karmically, if you have not atoned for that, And your systemic issues that need correction are now being exploited by very resourceful people that don't have an actual stake in the country anymore.

01:14:41.000 And now, instead of dealing with that, You wanna pretend like, oh, everything's cool, it's great here, you're not addressing those issues, and those, you got like, we ain't gotta go all the way back, we can talk about redlining, we can talk about this, we can talk about that.

01:14:56.000 Blockbusting.

01:14:57.000 Right.

01:14:58.000 When you brought up reparations, I was ready to jump in, because I don't agree, but then you mentioned the printing three trillion, six trillion, and I'm like, I got no justification, dude.

01:15:06.000 There's no print money, just throw it around.

01:15:07.000 And if it's no issue, Right.

01:15:12.000 If Austrian economics and Mises and these guys, these really smart guys, are wrong, then okay, then why don't we just, we can solve all of this.

01:15:22.000 Let's just print up 300 million dollars, since it's no issue with inflation and hyperinflation.

01:15:28.000 It doesn't affect our economy.

01:15:30.000 And we can say, okay, we're going to give every American, as reparations, we're going to give one, we're going to give every American one million dollars.

01:15:37.000 That would be like three trillion something.

01:15:39.000 Yeah.

01:15:39.000 Or like three hundred.

01:15:40.000 No, how many people is in America?

01:15:42.000 Three hundred million?

01:15:43.000 Yeah.

01:15:44.000 So that's like three trillion.

01:15:45.000 We only need one million per person.

01:15:47.000 So one million.

01:15:48.000 Three hundred million dollars.

01:15:49.000 No, no, no, it's one million times three hundred million.

01:15:51.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:51.000 So it's like three hundred trillion.

01:15:52.000 Whatever that is, that number.

01:15:54.000 But that's, that's just.

01:15:55.000 But it doesn't matter because we just printed up three.

01:15:58.000 It's like three quadrillion.

01:16:00.000 Is it?

01:16:01.000 I know, man.

01:16:01.000 Look, so whatever that math turns out to, if you're saying that there's no issue with

01:16:06.000 printing up endless $3 trillion, let's just give African Americans 1.25 or whatever the 0.99

01:16:15.000 number is.

01:16:17.000 So if we're talking only about black Americans, which is I believe about 13% of the population, it's a lot less than 300 trillion.

01:16:25.000 It's still a lot though.

01:16:26.000 But to solve it- 300 trillion bucks, everyone gets a million bucks.

01:16:30.000 I'm cool with saying everybody gets the million, right?

01:16:33.000 Because it's going to go back into the economy.

01:16:35.000 Everyone gets the million, and African Americans can get 1.5. 0.97

01:16:40.000 Oh, I see what you're doing.

01:16:41.000 Or everybody gets half a million, because if there's no issue with the printing of the money... I see what you're saying.

01:16:46.000 Now... Well, it'll make hamburgers go to like $75 each.

01:16:49.000 No way, way more than that.

01:16:50.000 And the same thing will happen when you throw $3 trillion into the economy.

01:16:54.000 Exactly, dude.

01:16:55.000 I've seen it go up 30-20%.

01:16:56.000 Stuff's up, like inflating right now.

01:16:58.000 Saying this to say, America, and my Jewish brothers and sisters have gotten reparations.

01:17:04.000 The Japanese Americans and their lineage that were held in internment camps after the war were given their reparations.

01:17:11.000 What do you think about basic income?

01:17:13.000 I think that everyone should be able to determine what they want to charge for their labor.

01:17:17.000 But just like the fact if everyone could get like a thousand dollars a month from the government.

01:17:22.000 I don't, the government, it's not the government's money, it's already your money.

01:17:25.000 It's our money, but if it was dispersed evenly amongst the populace.

01:17:27.000 That's socialism.

01:17:28.000 Right, but so would be $300 trillion bailout. 0.85

01:17:30.000 Right, it's the same thing.

01:17:32.000 That's why Thomas Massie was like, nah bro.

01:17:34.000 So, just to make sure I have it clear, you're basically dragging the government for just printing money like crazy.

01:17:41.000 I'm dragging the government for being a, I'm dragging the American people that go into politics that don't understand that they're a public servant and

01:17:49.000 this cornucopia of money that you think is what it is since you're throwing the money at that

01:17:54.000 problem but you haven't thrown money at the community that has been affected and impacted most

01:17:59.000 negatively by and anyone that disagrees with this you either don't read enough or you're just in

01:18:04.000 denial.

01:18:04.000 The thing about slavery, we kind of talked about this a little bit ago, is that, what, 150 years ago, people were just dumped on the street with no education or money at all.

01:18:11.000 And a lot of people are coming from, like, their great-great-grandfather had nothing, maybe didn't even speak the language very well.

01:18:18.000 That's not the case for a lot of white, like, whatever you want to call it. 0.93

01:18:22.000 But here's the thing.

01:18:23.000 You got indigenous people to this nation that were mixed in.

01:18:27.000 At one point, they were called Negro or Indian.

01:18:29.000 Then you got the people that you brought from somewhere else.

01:18:32.000 You got companies, before he died, Johnny Cochran was putting together a thing, a fund on reparations before he, you know, died.

01:18:41.000 You have companies that benefited tremendously financially from that.

01:18:46.000 To bring it back home, you haven't atoned for these things.

01:18:51.000 We haven't.

01:18:52.000 And if we haven't, and if the system is still in alignment with those things, I can understand why somebody would be so damn frustrated, and then media highlights it, and is it as insane as media is making it?

01:19:04.000 Absolutely not.

01:19:05.000 However, This is what you get and you have people that have that lived experience with law enforcement which is the physical representation of a system.

01:19:13.000 That's what law enforcement officers are.

01:19:16.000 They are foot soldiers for policy.

01:19:19.000 They are there to enforce laws and if the laws are unjust, What does this community have to lose in that regard?

01:19:25.000 Let me ask you.

01:19:26.000 You're familiar with the phrase, if you give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man a fish, feed him for the rest of his life.

01:19:32.000 You agree with that?

01:19:33.000 Yes.

01:19:34.000 How would you feel about creating a system where you just give people the fish.

01:19:39.000 That's it.

01:19:40.000 You take the fish from one guy and give it to the other people so they have fish.

01:19:42.000 That's socialism.

01:19:43.000 I'm not in alignment with it.

01:19:45.000 So here's what I'm getting at.

01:19:46.000 I've had a lot of conversations about reparations, and I think you can't just give money to people.

01:19:51.000 So why did the government print $3 trillion?

01:19:52.000 Oh, dude, I'm with you, man.

01:19:53.000 They're just dumping, like, that's what they're doing.

01:19:55.000 The Federal Reserve printed $3 trillion.

01:19:56.000 This is an example of a contradiction.

01:19:58.000 I agree, I agree.

01:19:58.000 Well, we can't give it to you guys, who clearly have been impacted by these policies that we as the government set up, but we can Section off 24, I got the 900 page thing.

01:20:10.000 You can section off 24 million for us in Senate.

01:20:13.000 Out of the air thin printed money, fiat currency.

01:20:17.000 We gotta get our salary increases.

01:20:19.000 Boom! 0.99

01:20:19.000 But here's what I'm saying, in terms of reparation, the way I describe it is, so I consider myself liberal, meaning I actually think social programs can be a good thing. 0.99

01:20:28.000 I think, uh, the government, you know, we all, we all pitch in, uh, uh, taxes, do a subscription program, and then there can be social programs to benefit people in certain circumstances.

01:20:38.000 But I think we're doing it wrong.

01:20:39.000 The way I see it is, we shouldn't be giving people fish.

01:20:42.000 That's what we're doing.

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:43.000 We're giving people, no, we should be teaching people to fish.

01:20:45.000 Correct.

01:20:46.000 So, what we say is, you're down and out, you got no fishing pole, you don't know how to fish?

01:20:49.000 Alright, we're gonna pitch and get you a pole, teach you to fish, now, now go do your thing. 0.93

01:20:52.000 These were things that were taught up until the 60s and 50s.

01:20:56.000 Like, the black community wasn't as like, like, there was a systematic attack on the black community.

01:21:03.000 The BLM folks just took it off of their website like yesterday.

01:21:07.000 Another re-attack on the nuclear family. 0.86

01:21:09.000 It was Nixon.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:11.000 Right.

01:21:11.000 It was.

01:21:12.000 Why did they, that's a bad thing. 0.98

01:21:13.000 It's a bad thing, but if you're biased at that point, Nixon was tricky dick. 0.96

01:21:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:19.000 And there was, he had interest in other areas of corporate scenarios, like this Obamacare,

01:21:24.000 that was initially created under Nixon.

01:21:27.000 We couldn't really get it off the same way then.

01:21:29.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:21:30.000 So with that being the case, we had these things.

01:21:33.000 We had trades.

01:21:35.000 America in general, when people go, well, when was America great?

01:21:38.000 When one, we had very little international interference, right?

01:21:43.000 When America, when Pittsburgh was making 30% of the world's steel, when, you know, factories, 30% of the world's steel, Pittsburgh Steelers, when, when, when, Black businesses, and I'm not saying this to, you know, ignore white families.

01:22:04.000 I'm just talking about the black community because that's where I happen to live, right?

01:22:07.000 When black communities, guys could work a job plumber. 1.00

01:22:11.000 Trades were taught in school.

01:22:12.000 I live up the street from Mural Dobbins in Philly, right off of 22nd and Lehigh.

01:22:16.000 That school was a trade school.

01:22:18.000 Carpentry, electrician, home economics.

01:22:21.000 Hair.

01:22:22.000 All of these different things, right?

01:22:24.000 Someone could have a legitimate $60,000, $70,000 a year job, even back then, $50,000 a year, and not even have to leave the neighborhood.

01:22:33.000 Detroit.

01:22:34.000 Manufacturing.

01:22:35.000 When corporate interests decide to put their profits over making America solid and making us an economic world power, The first, you know, center of the scope is the black community. 0.78

01:22:46.000 The people that are doing that manual labor, you know, that can make a good wage.

01:22:51.000 I can walk home for lunch.

01:22:54.000 I can walk to work.

01:22:55.000 I can walk back home.

01:22:56.000 I can be with my family.

01:22:58.000 There was a systematic attempt to destroy that.

01:23:01.000 It's happening now again.

01:23:02.000 It's just now my white brothers and sisters, y'all caught up, it's called robotics.

01:23:07.000 Is that what Black Lives Matter is doing?

01:23:09.000 Destroying the family?

01:23:11.000 Absolutely that's part of their goal.

01:23:12.000 I know it's in their goal for sure.

01:23:14.000 They got rid of it.

01:23:16.000 They're not black people. 1.00

01:23:18.000 The leadership, not the face, like Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben, come on, they have no, they're not. 0.88

01:23:26.000 Aunt Jemima wasn't even black. 1.00

01:23:28.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Mrs. Butterworth is what I was gonna say, that was wrong. 0.99

01:23:30.000 They're not showing up at the damn executive board meetings. 0.98

01:23:35.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:23:36.000 The founder of BET is not the owner of BET anymore.

01:23:40.000 So my point in saying that is, this is all, holistic approach and now what we're seeing in some of these you're seeing the frustration of people that a have been made to feel like they're outside of the american dream there have been policies and systemic issues that have deliberately made that the case now do you have to submit to it absolutely not i don't i don't care what they meant the second amendment for it is mine

01:24:05.000 Yeah.

01:24:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:06.000 Like, oh, you didn't mean that for me?

01:24:08.000 That's great.

01:24:09.000 Good for you.

01:24:09.000 Not for me.

01:24:10.000 You put a riot in my neighborhood and you watch me flip real fast on 2A because I used to be very much more, like, liberal.

01:24:15.000 Right!

01:24:16.000 And you're like, I'm gonna see the helicopters and I'm like, I'm gonna get my gun.

01:24:18.000 Right!

01:24:19.000 Now I'm like, get away from my guns!

01:24:20.000 Exactly.

01:24:21.000 And so these are the things because your course of re-education or your re-engineering of self is different and it's tied into the human right.

01:24:30.000 At to defend as opposed to what a government said I got it now when you're tying it back to all of these It's not all of these.

01:24:37.000 It's a few people defending the riots that are not from the communities.

01:24:41.000 Yes, it's it's it's a it's a a well-oiled machine Pretending and piggybacking on the back of legitimate legitimate social issues.

01:24:52.000 I'm not talking about like Oh, like, you know, I'm getting treated horribly because they didn't, like, like me.

01:25:00.000 I'm talking about, like, school choice is real.

01:25:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:05.000 Like, when you're talking about discrimination based on skin tone and bias, those are real things that we can show evidence and fact and prove.

01:25:16.000 So when you're not from that demographic and you don't feel that, And you don't do anything.

01:25:21.000 Our nation, for the most part, has not atoned in these communities.

01:25:26.000 And atonement doesn't just mean an apology.

01:25:29.000 And atonement means changed behavior.

01:25:32.000 And the behavior hasn't changed.

01:25:34.000 I feel like one of the problems we have, what I was alluding to earlier, is just throwing fish at people.

01:25:41.000 Yeah.

01:25:41.000 Like, okay, there you go, we gave you fish.

01:25:43.000 But, you know, Ian mentioned it earlier, because I've actually done a lot of research into this.

01:25:48.000 I've done a documentary on stuff like this.

01:25:50.000 UN slavery, what you have now is, you know, two separate train tracks, the way I kind of describe it.

01:25:56.000 One which has a history, and one which just started.

01:25:59.000 Yeah.

01:25:59.000 And doesn't have the same resources, the same access.

01:26:01.000 So like Ian brought up, a grandfather, you know, a guy is a slave, he gets freed, he has kids, they have nothing to transfer down to each other.

01:26:08.000 Right.

01:26:08.000 And they also don't have the education.

01:26:10.000 Right.

01:26:10.000 And so that's why I lean liberal on a lot of issues, like, can we teach people to fish, and then make sure we fix the system?

01:26:17.000 Now, yes, and agreed, but here's the other part to that example you just gave.

01:26:22.000 Then, a group of people decide to say, you know what guys, we were doing the same thing, we can just do what we all were doing on that plantation for our own neighborhood.

01:26:31.000 And then over time, that neighborhood starts to become independent.

01:26:34.000 And it starts to actually, that other side of the tracks, literally, is Tulsa.

01:26:39.000 Literally.

01:26:40.000 Black Wall Street. 0.53

01:26:41.000 Literally.

01:26:42.000 That other side of the track starts to look better than this side.

01:26:45.000 Then it gets burned down.

01:26:47.000 Then they redo it.

01:26:48.000 Then they rebuild it and it's there for 40 more years.

01:26:51.000 Then they zone it and they do things to systematically destroy it.

01:26:55.000 I gotta say, man.

01:26:57.000 You know, I had a brief stint as a Democrat when I voted for Obama and then felt disillusioned because it was like it was war all over again.

01:27:05.000 I don't much care for the Republican Party.

01:27:08.000 I think Donald Trump has done enough, some good things, anti-war, peace deals, pulling our troops back, that I'm happy with.

01:27:14.000 But I really do feel like it's been the Democratic Party the entire time.

01:27:16.000 Oh, absolutely!

01:27:17.000 It's been, first of all, they're the party of slavery. 0.97

01:27:19.000 Oh, listen, listen!

01:27:20.000 But, just real quick, what I want to get to is, a lot of people say that the party switched, and I'm like, no, they went subversive.

01:27:26.000 Right.

01:27:27.000 Because when you say Black Lives Matter wants to destroy the family, I'm like, they're keeping up the legacy of destroying minority communities. 1.00

01:27:32.000 Right!

01:27:33.000 They are very crafty.

01:27:37.000 It's what I call a beautiful ugly. 0.99

01:27:40.000 The precision and the strategy and the tactics, oh man, as a person that plays chess, I'm like, wow, you guys really got that off.

01:27:49.000 You convinced all of the black people to donate to Black Lives Matter and $700 million of that went to the Biden campaign.

01:27:58.000 Well, that's not necessarily, it's more complicated than that.

01:28:01.000 It is.

01:28:02.000 But I'm paraphrasing and simplifying it.

01:28:04.000 Maybe oversimplifying it.

01:28:06.000 Let me give the best context I can.

01:28:09.000 So they say Black Lives Matter is not political.

01:28:11.000 Yet for some reason, ActBlue, which is the Democrats' fundraising arm, is managing their funds.

01:28:16.000 All of the resources.

01:28:17.000 Now, ActBlue says that money that isn't claimed goes to ActBlue.

01:28:21.000 So I'll put it this way.

01:28:23.000 If you donate to Black Lives Matter, a portion of your donation goes to ActBlue.

01:28:26.000 And if Black Lives Matter doesn't claim the donation properly under some circumstances, ActBlue keeps it, which funds the Democrats' fundraising infrastructure.

01:28:35.000 So it's not going to Joe Biden, but it is providing the Democratic Party a fundraising arm.

01:28:39.000 You see what I mean?

01:28:39.000 And the fundraising... You're paying their infrastructure.

01:28:42.000 Right.

01:28:42.000 And the fundraising... All of the Democrats, after they... So...

01:28:47.000 After you lose or you're out of the running, you can then donate that money to whichever candidate you choose to.

01:28:54.000 And we all know it's a money laundering scheme.

01:28:56.000 It's a Ponzi scheme.

01:28:58.000 I think it's worse than that.

01:28:59.000 It absolutely is, because Ponzi schemes, if you do them right, it's only a scheme.

01:29:03.000 Dude, I'm from the south side of Chicago, and I know a lot of people who didn't make it out, and I think I had good parents.

01:29:11.000 I was lucky.

01:29:12.000 And so when I see, you know, when I see what was one factor in my success in getting away and moving out, and I'm not saying everybody there is doing bad, I mean some middle class living, but a lot of people, like I know a couple people who OD'd and one person who I knew when I was younger is dead from an overdose.

01:29:28.000 People join gangs.

01:29:30.000 And I can see that they had bad families.

01:29:32.000 Now, it's not always true.

01:29:33.000 I mean, some of these people had a regular family and still got caught up.

01:29:36.000 Just choices.

01:29:37.000 But when I see Black Lives Matter say they want to disrupt the nuclear family, I'm saying, you're convincing white suburban people to donate to an organization that's actively hurting black communities by doing that. 0.86

01:29:47.000 And then say, there's no systemic racism.

01:29:51.000 They're making it.

01:29:51.000 It is literally manufactured.

01:29:54.000 That's an example of it.

01:29:55.000 You see that actress recently? 1.00

01:29:56.000 She came out in support for Donald Trump.

01:29:58.000 She said, if you're voting for Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, these are the people who have been in government for decades who literally created the systemic racism.

01:30:06.000 Correct.

01:30:06.000 And now you're voting for them, you're part of the problem.

01:30:08.000 Beautiful ugly. 0.94

01:30:10.000 The fact that they could trick is the movie um I think it was I forget which movie it was but the quote was the biggest trick that the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist yeah and it's the same concept it's no no no we like Kamala's wearing Timberlands getting off the plane so she's clearly cool she's clearly down for the cause this is the same woman that Didn't want to let non-violent cannabis guys that were locked up for weed, not let them out of jail because California needed free slave labor.

01:30:45.000 She wanted to pay him a dollar an hour to put out wildfires.

01:30:47.000 Bam.

01:30:47.000 Not even a job, it was life-risking stuff.

01:30:49.000 Right.

01:30:50.000 This is the same person that, when she was in a breakfast club, laughs about it.

01:30:53.000 Yes, I smoked every now and then.

01:30:55.000 So, the beauty of it is, man, y'all really pulled that chess move off.

01:30:59.000 The ugly is the intent and the deed and the actions and the outcome.

01:31:04.000 As an objective person, I'm able to go, oh man, you was really gonna rob me that night.

01:31:10.000 I saw it.

01:31:11.000 You were good up until you telegraphed and I could see you in the bar in the big mirror.

01:31:16.000 I could see you talking with the dude over there.

01:31:17.000 This happened to me in New Orleans.

01:31:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:31:19.000 I was like, oh, y'all were good.

01:31:21.000 Y'all almost had me.

01:31:22.000 The objective in me is like, oh man, y'all really got that off.

01:31:25.000 The ugly in me is like, man, that's really messed up.

01:31:28.000 And I'm emotionally...

01:31:32.000 I love military tactics, but I hate war.

01:31:34.000 of it and two we at war and if you emotional in the middle of a war that's

01:31:39.000 how you got your head blown I love military tactics but I hate war right so

01:31:43.000 so what do you think about Donald Trump um I like him on so I don't I don't

01:31:51.000 really think about Donald Trump so so do you What about the Republicans?

01:31:56.000 Some of them are cool, most of them are rhinos.

01:32:00.000 I don't think that they know what... They're statists.

01:32:03.000 I don't think that a lot of them know what...

01:32:06.000 I don't think that they know that this is a republic.

01:32:10.000 I don't think that they know that the smallest republic is the individual.

01:32:14.000 I don't think that they like their constituents.

01:32:18.000 I think my man Larry Sharp came to the Solutionary Summit.

01:32:22.000 He said, most politicians actually hate you.

01:32:26.000 Because they see you as, like, in the way of their aims.

01:32:31.000 That's why they jump from the public to private sector, make the rule this so I can jump back into private sector and benefit from the rule.

01:32:36.000 It's not about people anymore, man.

01:32:37.000 It's about, it's like a point system.

01:32:40.000 Right.

01:32:41.000 These politicians, and not all of them, there's a handful that are good, a handful of them are Republicans, but it's like eight.

01:32:47.000 I basically use that number because there were eight people who sided with Trump on withdrawing the troops, eight Republicans and three Democrats, and I'm like, all right, y'all are cool.

01:32:54.000 Not completely, because there's probably things I disagree with, but you have very, very few of these people, and the rest of them, they just want the keys to the castle.

01:33:01.000 Right.

01:33:02.000 So the way they look at the constituents is they have a chart saying, here's how you're swinging.

01:33:07.000 So they don't care about you, necessarily, most of these people.

01:33:10.000 They care about, what am I up?

01:33:11.000 Right.

01:33:12.000 And they say, oh, you're down four.

01:33:13.000 Oh, I'm down four.

01:33:14.000 How can we get me up three?

01:33:15.000 Where's some Timberlands?

01:33:17.000 Exactly.

01:33:17.000 That's purely because they want to get reelected.

01:33:19.000 Right.

01:33:19.000 But this is another reason for term limits.

01:33:22.000 So I asked Thomas Massey about this term limit thing in Congress, right?

01:33:26.000 He said that would be a cotton candy solution.

01:33:29.000 And I'm like, what do you mean?

01:33:31.000 He's like, cotton candy's like, you taste it, and it does, it's kind of food-like.

01:33:37.000 But it doesn't really sustain you.

01:33:39.000 He was like, you know, he pulled out his his Congress, like whatever card they give him in the number.

01:33:45.000 Right.

01:33:45.000 He's like, this number means that there's this many people.

01:33:48.000 I'm this many people senior.

01:33:50.000 So this amount of people have actually been in Congress less than me.

01:33:54.000 Wow.

01:33:55.000 And so it's not about term limits.

01:33:57.000 It's what you do with the time that you get there.

01:33:59.000 Right.

01:34:02.000 But that means the reason why the term limits They're able to pull off a lot of this beautiful ugly and be there for 50 years, Joe Biden, and not do anything is because the people are not educated about what makes a good public servant.

01:34:16.000 Hence, systematically taking civics and social studies out of schools.

01:34:21.000 Right?

01:34:21.000 You don't even know what that process is.

01:34:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:24.000 And so the term limit thing would be, because then, okay, let's flip side to that coin.

01:34:29.000 What if there's a guy or a woman in there doing great?

01:34:31.000 And it's like, oh, you're doing great.

01:34:33.000 Time's up. 0.99

01:34:34.000 And it's like, then you get like a complete trash politician right after them. 0.91

01:34:38.000 So that pendulum swings both ways. 0.90

01:34:41.000 Back to your question about President Trump.

01:34:44.000 I love him on, first shouts to him for freeing a good friend of mine, Angela Stanton King.

01:34:51.000 He gave her a presidential pardon.

01:34:55.000 She's running for Congress in District 5 in Atlanta, John Lewis' old seat.

01:34:59.000 Oh wow.

01:35:00.000 She came to the Solutionary Summit.

01:35:02.000 Everybody should check into her. 1.00

01:35:04.000 She's Atlanta as they come. 0.98

01:35:06.000 And I would trust somebody like her in that seat that wants to protect children, that wants to push actual conservative values, and serve the people of Atlanta, right? 0.98

01:35:18.000 He gave her a presidential pardon.

01:35:22.000 Last I know, like, racists don't do that, right?

01:35:24.000 So this whole, like, is he racist?

01:35:26.000 Look, I don't care if he is.

01:35:27.000 I don't know him personally.

01:35:29.000 Don Jr.

01:35:30.000 follows me.

01:35:30.000 We chop it up here and there.

01:35:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:35:32.000 Don's a shooter.

01:35:33.000 I like that.

01:35:34.000 I think Don should run for, like, mayor of New York or something.

01:35:37.000 That's what I think.

01:35:39.000 But I don't evaluate politicians based on, like, if I like them.

01:35:45.000 Yeah.

01:35:46.000 I, like, I don't need to like you.

01:35:47.000 You're a plumber to me.

01:35:48.000 Oh, dude.

01:35:49.000 I hire you.

01:35:50.000 I got a clog.

01:35:51.000 Like, get the clog out.

01:35:52.000 Now, you'll do a job, and I'm like, bro, not only did you get the clog out, he showed me, like, in two months, you're gonna have a clog in this one.

01:35:59.000 You don't have to hire me now, but let me tell you why.

01:36:02.000 And two months later, if I get the clog, I'm like, this guy was on it, right?

01:36:06.000 And I'm hiring him. 0.99

01:36:07.000 I don't care if he's got his butt crack showing. 0.99

01:36:09.000 I don't care. 0.97

01:36:10.000 Did he get the clog out?

01:36:12.000 It's actually an analogy I use for a plumber.

01:36:15.000 You hire two plumbers, or two plumbers come to your house and give you a quote.

01:36:19.000 One guy, he looks terrible. 0.98

01:36:21.000 His butt crack's sticking out. 0.99

01:36:23.000 He won't stop cussing. 0.99

01:36:24.000 But you know he's got a good record.

01:36:26.000 Well, actually, you might have never hired him before. 0.94

01:36:28.000 The other guys look sharp, but they can't stop complaining about the guy with the butt crack. 0.95

01:36:33.000 So you've got one guy with a butt crack, and he's telling you he's going to get it done. 0.93

01:36:37.000 You hire him, he starts getting it done, and these guys won't shut up. 0.97

01:36:40.000 But they're demanding you give them the contract while this dude's literally trying to fix your toilet.

01:36:45.000 And then they start hitting the guy fixing the toilet, and you're like, let him fix my toilet, dude!

01:36:49.000 And they won't stop.

01:36:50.000 You think I'm gonna ever give you a contract again?

01:36:52.000 It's not happening.

01:36:52.000 But the difference of the plumber is that after the guy fixes the clog, then his job is to go out on the street and represent you to the neighborhood.

01:36:59.000 And if he's a jerk, that's a problem. 0.95

01:37:02.000 Well, it could be, but depending on what your What's your meter of successes? 0.99

01:37:11.000 So for example, President Obama is one of my favorite politicians of all time.

01:37:16.000 I think he's a great symbol for melanated young people especially.

01:37:21.000 I think that, you know, the audacity of hope and letters to my father is like some of the best reading I've ever done.

01:37:27.000 I like that he was like the first president of like Harvard Law or whatever school that was.

01:37:32.000 I think that that's dope.

01:37:33.000 I think he was smooth.

01:37:34.000 I think that presidential beige suit was like the coldest suit ever.

01:37:39.000 Right?

01:37:40.000 I think that he got through things that I would have been smacked somebody in the mouth behind.

01:37:47.000 And for those reasons, he's one of my favorite politicians for those reasons, for that list.

01:37:52.000 Then I pan over to policy.

01:37:55.000 And then I go, no.

01:37:57.000 You campaigned on closing Gitmo.

01:38:00.000 You didn't.

01:38:01.000 You campaigned on getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. 1.00

01:38:06.000 You didn't.

01:38:07.000 You campaigned on the Patriot Act being the most horrible thing ever.

01:38:11.000 You re-upped on it.

01:38:13.000 So when I look at policy, I can evaluate you.

01:38:16.000 There's really hot girls and I'm like, oh man, she's so hot. 1.00

01:38:19.000 I would never touch her with a 10 foot pole, but she's so hot. 1.00

01:38:23.000 And I would never touch her because her spirit is corrupt. 0.99

01:38:27.000 I can feel it. 0.56

01:38:28.000 Is that what you think about Obama?

01:38:30.000 I think that Obama...

01:38:32.000 As a human, I don't know him.

01:38:34.000 I can only base it on his symbolism and his substance.

01:38:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:40.000 The substance of it, I gotta disagree with.

01:38:43.000 President Trump, I think he has gotten things done great in regards to business and the economy.

01:38:50.000 I think that he's been attacked tremendously, more so than any president that I've seen.

01:38:54.000 Maybe second, maybe, or first.

01:38:57.000 They're running neck and neck, him and Obama, depending on which side is attacking, right?

01:39:02.000 I agree with him on a lot of things.

01:39:04.000 I disagree.

01:39:05.000 I think his stance on guns has been weak.

01:39:08.000 I think that he's had more federal restrictions on the Second Amendment in one term than Obama did in two.

01:39:17.000 And that's just me evaluating my plumbers.

01:39:19.000 That's it.

01:39:20.000 Right, Obama's like a guy who would go out on the street, everyone loves him, so they're like, oh, you have a great guy out on the street, but he can't fix the leak.

01:39:26.000 No, no, no, no, right.

01:39:27.000 And Trump fixes the leak, goes out and yells at people, and they're like, I can't stand him.

01:39:30.000 Or you, because he's your plumber.

01:39:32.000 I'm going to tell you what Obama was.

01:39:33.000 Obama was the guy who walked up to your front door with a smile on his face, and he was like, hey, and he winks, and you're like, oh, this guy's so amazing, he's like, I'm gonna go make you all look good.

01:39:41.000 Walked to the rich people's houses and winked at him, and then walked over to the poor house and started smacking people and kicking them around, and that was his foreign policy.

01:39:49.000 And then he comes and he says at your house, he's like, I'll tell you what, I look great, and I can snatch up your kids in the middle of the night and rendition them on an offshore oil rig, you'll never hear from him again.

01:39:57.000 That's the National Defense Authorization Act indefinite detention provision.

01:40:01.000 So, I hear exactly what you're saying, dude.

01:40:04.000 No, no.

01:40:04.000 He was smooth, he was charismatic, and he inspired people.

01:40:09.000 And then when it came to policy, he was the same exact thing I saw in George W. Bush.

01:40:13.000 And this is what?

01:40:16.000 This is our fault, though.

01:40:18.000 It's our fault.

01:40:19.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

01:40:20.000 We, we are not making politicians afraid again.

01:40:25.000 This is our job.

01:40:27.000 We are, but is he, but is he, I think so.

01:40:31.000 They've been screaming nonstop.

01:40:33.000 I think they've been, I think they've been screaming nonstop on the left.

01:40:37.000 I think that for sure.

01:40:38.000 I think that, but they scream. 0.98

01:40:41.000 That's what they do.

01:40:42.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:40:43.000 I think that, I think that.

01:40:46.000 We been shoulda had people out.

01:40:48.000 It's 19, 20 years later.

01:40:49.000 Afghanistan, it's over. 1.00

01:40:50.000 Like, it's done.

01:40:52.000 It's done.

01:40:53.000 Get him home.

01:40:54.000 Don't say, get him home.

01:40:56.000 You are the commander-in-chief.

01:40:58.000 You are the commander-in-chief.

01:41:01.000 I think that, does he leave something to be desired in regards to his approach?

01:41:08.000 Absolutely.

01:41:09.000 But then when I look at how the economy was humming, oh yeah.

01:41:14.000 I've made more legal money Maybe or maybe not, allegedly.

01:41:19.000 Right?

01:41:20.000 With this being the case, those parts, if you're being objective, that's how I view it.

01:41:24.000 But I also am a one-issue voter, and I cannot ignore the fact that he has been weak on the Second Amendment.

01:41:31.000 I was in the front row at the NRA annual meetings when he first was elected, and he was the first sitting president to address an NRA convention.

01:41:40.000 I was literally in the front row when he said, The eight-year assault on your Second Amendment rights is coming to a crashing halt.

01:41:47.000 That's not the case.

01:41:48.000 That doesn't mesh with, and again, I'm not attacking them, I'm not, this is the plumber.

01:41:54.000 You can't say that and then say, take the guns first, due process later.

01:42:00.000 That is not something that I want to hear from my Commander-in-Chief.

01:42:04.000 That is not what our nation needs to hear.

01:42:06.000 I think that what happens is because we have become so complacent with this two-party system, That everybody gets barbecued up on July the 4th, but George Washington and the boys literally were like, do not do a party system.

01:42:20.000 So I think now, this is the time that we should be looking into strengthening a third party.

01:42:25.000 Have you ever read the original Second Amendment?

01:42:29.000 No.

01:42:30.000 I didn't know about this until I actually looked up the Bill of Rights, and I forgot what segment we were talking about, and there was originally 17 articles proposed.

01:42:39.000 It was because there were a lot of people who were scared of a strong federal government, like basically oppressive.

01:42:43.000 Anti-federalists.

01:42:44.000 So they said, okay, we'll take these 17 things.

01:42:47.000 A bunch of them didn't make it, but the original Second Amendment was very clear that... I'm probably gonna get this wrong, so, you know, the gunners out there, super chat, correct me if I'm getting it wrong, but it basically said something like, It says, you know, a well-regulated militia being, you know, necessary for a free state.

01:43:03.000 The right to keep and bear arms should not be restricted.

01:43:05.000 And it said, basically, if somebody doesn't want to join, you know, military service in any way, doesn't mean they can't own a gun.

01:43:12.000 I'm like, why did you get rid of that part?

01:43:15.000 I think it was because the language banned conscription.

01:43:18.000 Yeah.

01:43:19.000 And so they ended up getting rid of it.

01:43:20.000 They kept that.

01:43:22.000 You can see the spirit of what they meant.

01:43:23.000 Yeah.

01:43:24.000 They meant everybody should have firearms.

01:43:25.000 Everybody should be armed.

01:43:27.000 And they get rid of this one provision, and now the left says, oh, but a well-regulated militia.

01:43:32.000 Means the military.

01:43:33.000 Right, right, right.

01:43:33.000 But they clearly said, even if you don't want to, you can keep your weapon.

01:43:37.000 Here's the bigger part to that to me.

01:43:40.000 The Bill of Rights was the double down to say, hey guys, remember, these are things not granted by government, nor can government take them away.

01:43:48.000 Like, just in case in a hundred years everybody gets stupid, these list of things, your right to express yourself and then the right to defend what you just said, is not granted by government, it's not taken away.

01:44:01.000 They just did a good job of studying governments prior to and codifying human nature and natural law. 0.96

01:44:09.000 Thomas Paine, John Locke, those dudes were somewhere else.

01:44:14.000 You know, I liken them, they're not singers to my knowledge, but when you hear Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen,

01:44:23.000 Freddie Mercury was somewhere else to write those changeovers,

01:44:28.000 and that, like, he was somewhere else.

01:44:29.000 You're saying, like, it was profound, like, so good.

01:44:31.000 They must have been... Somewhere else.

01:44:34.000 They had hemp farms.

01:44:35.000 Yeah.

01:44:36.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:44:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:37.000 And so they were somewhere else in their understanding of liberty because they had seen, one, they just came from a tyrannical government.

01:44:46.000 And by studying, these guys were, not only were they, like, And they had their contradictions because you notice I keep saying guys.

01:44:53.000 There were no women. 1.00

01:44:54.000 So that's strike one, right?

01:44:58.000 These guys were like craftsmen and builders and architects and like, like guys that like made stuff.

01:45:06.000 That's the power of creation.

01:45:08.000 That's like the power of God.

01:45:10.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:45:11.000 And they tied it into a moral compass feeling thing and to double down and say, hey, we're going to make this extra list.

01:45:19.000 So we remember that we're making this stuff to like check government.

01:45:24.000 So when we talk about what's a bootlicker, what's a statist, these are the people that think that this is for the government to tell us what to do, not us to put the government on timeout if they start reaching too much.

01:45:37.000 We are the government.

01:45:38.000 Right.

01:45:39.000 And so that's the part that we've become.

01:45:42.000 We, even though I'm not a Republican or a Democrat, I am a libertarian.

01:45:49.000 With strong conservative values.

01:45:51.000 Strong conservative values.

01:45:53.000 And I'm cool with if everybody else in the Liberty Movement is like, yeah there should be open borders.

01:45:58.000 I'm going to go, that's cool that you think that.

01:46:00.000 I don't.

01:46:00.000 Right?

01:46:03.000 This is why I say it's our fault though.

01:46:05.000 Because we are not self-educating.

01:46:09.000 We are not.

01:46:10.000 The information's there.

01:46:11.000 I got five phones on me.

01:46:13.000 Literally.

01:46:14.000 The information's there.

01:46:16.000 The conversations are being had.

01:46:18.000 The geniuses have left their blueprints.

01:46:21.000 You know?

01:46:23.000 This is why in 2022, I'm like 98% gonna just go beyond my planet and do my thing.

01:46:31.000 I believe that Americans, and this hurts to say, I believe that Americans are too soft, they're too marshmallow, and we don't want to do what's necessary. 0.98

01:46:40.000 When Obama got elected, I remember he was anti-war, and I was anti-war, and there was a building anti-war movement.

01:46:46.000 Then he got elected, and there was no more movement.

01:46:48.000 The money leaned on him.

01:46:49.000 And the president can't do anything if the people aren't surging.

01:46:52.000 Yep.

01:46:53.000 It's our job.

01:46:54.000 Yep.

01:46:55.000 And it's the same thing with Hillary. 0.95

01:46:56.000 Remember Hillary used to, like, fights so hard for universal health care. 1.00

01:47:02.000 She used to fight for it.

01:47:04.000 Then she started getting funded by insurance, and that conversation stopped.

01:47:09.000 At a certain point, you gotta look at what your legacy is. 0.90

01:47:14.000 To me, if I went hard left or hard right, oh man, I'd have a TV show, I'm charismatic, I'm handsome, I'm reasonably smart, If I picked a side as opposed to being balanced and objective, like even in the chat, there's going to be, as you guys scroll through this, there's going to be people that are saying I'm insane, I'm a terrorist, I'm one of those black power dudes. 0.67

01:47:41.000 Then there's going to be people going, he's a patriot, depending on what I'm talking about. 0.95

01:47:44.000 I'm looking at right here, people being like, this guy's awful.

01:47:47.000 And another guy being like, dude, I was cheering.

01:47:49.000 I can't believe it.

01:47:50.000 This is awesome.

01:47:51.000 You're an interesting dude, man.

01:47:52.000 It's layers.

01:47:53.000 It's context.

01:47:54.000 It's contextual.

01:47:56.000 It's the gray area that is what most of us actually are.

01:48:02.000 But we've been forced into picking one of these sides, and then we keep, again, July 4th reference, we keep going, America, America, America, but the founding fathers that we say that we support, we don't even have a conversation about Thomas Paine, who shaped the minds of like damn near all of those guys.

01:48:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:19.000 And so when you have someone such as myself or other people that show up that are in those gray areas and saying, I agree here, I disagree here.

01:48:26.000 I'm feeling this, I'm not feeling that.

01:48:28.000 Those people get vilified, ridiculed on this side, depending on the conversation, and heralded and celebrated on this side, depending on the conversation.

01:48:37.000 And it switches, and it ebbs and flows.

01:48:39.000 And I'm cool with that.

01:48:41.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:48:42.000 Let's do it.

01:48:42.000 We're a little late, but you know, it's alright.

01:48:45.000 We'll go a little bit longer.

01:48:46.000 We could do this forever, man.

01:48:46.000 Yeah, it is a fun conversation.

01:48:48.000 I know that there's some people who are saying in the chat that they're not a fan of you, and they're being a little bit more rude than that.

01:48:53.000 A lot of people are digging it, and they're saying they're stoked that you're here.

01:48:55.000 I thought we're having a great conversation.

01:48:58.000 I disagree with you on a lot of things, but it's cool.

01:49:01.000 It's strange to me.

01:49:03.000 People should just be like, here's a guy I disagree with, and I don't like what he has to say.

01:49:07.000 You're bringing out the emotions in people.

01:49:09.000 Which is a good thing.

01:49:11.000 Now the question becomes, why do they disagree with me?

01:49:15.000 In no way, shape, or form have I said, I've literally said, I love our nation.

01:49:20.000 Our nation.

01:49:22.000 I'm not calling for the crash and burn of President Trump. 1.00

01:49:25.000 If he's the guy flying the plane, that's stupid. 1.00

01:49:28.000 Right? 0.99

01:49:29.000 I can critique him, hey man, you don't want to go around these clouds?

01:49:34.000 It's crazy to me.

01:49:35.000 I mean, I kind of feel like as long as we can have a sane, rational conversation, and we agree on certain things and disagree on others, we agree that America is great, let's make sure it works and works for everybody and figure out how to fix it, then we'll talk about it.

01:49:50.000 What they're disagreeing with is my honesty about our nation's stains on the flag.

01:49:55.000 I think they disagree with you on whether those actually are stains, whether... Before we go to Super Chess, what about... Slavery's not a stain?

01:50:01.000 No, no, no, not that.

01:50:02.000 By talking about reparations and stuff.

01:50:04.000 Yeah, what about this idea for reparations?

01:50:05.000 Because you need to teach people to fish, so we have like school choices on the horizon, where you can give people the opportunity, a lot of it, we barely even got into that.

01:50:12.000 But while they're learning to fish, you still need to give them fish so they don't starve while they're learning.

01:50:18.000 So, basic income.

01:50:20.000 Nah, nah, nah.

01:50:23.000 We definitely gotta go Super Chats.

01:50:24.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, guys.

01:50:25.000 We can't.

01:50:25.000 Because this will be another 20 minutes of us like, no, because... Yeah, I'm like, uh-oh, we're getting this.

01:50:31.000 I just don't like these 3 trillion printouts when we could be giving it to the people directly.

01:50:35.000 It just inflates everything.

01:50:36.000 Okay, we're gonna super chat, super chat.

01:50:38.000 So, I gotta bring this up because everyone's bringing up this video from, I believe the dude's name was Gary Lamb.

01:50:45.000 Yes.

01:50:46.000 A message to Tim Pool.

01:50:46.000 I don't know, do you see this video?

01:50:48.000 No.

01:50:48.000 It's got like 200,000 views.

01:50:50.000 What happened in the video?

01:50:51.000 He just says thank you to me.

01:50:54.000 He was like, he says thank you to Tim Pool.

01:50:57.000 He said that he's working hard, he's succeeding now.

01:51:01.000 He realized that everything that was really good was good under Trump, and he's worried about what happens if Biden gets elected.

01:51:06.000 He says, I appreciate you for the kind that you do, and helping people realize what's going on.

01:51:11.000 But there's a lot of portions in it where he says things like, to him, Trump is the hope.

01:51:15.000 He saw how his life was doing better and better under Trump, and that the Democrats never did anything for him, and now he's worried what's going to happen.

01:51:22.000 But this video is getting clipped up.

01:51:23.000 People are sharing different segments of it.

01:51:26.000 He's getting like a viral hit off it.

01:51:27.000 He gained like he's got like 5,000 subs now on YouTube from this one video He's like a truck driver So I commented I was like dude you proven the American dream is real man working hard succeeding.

01:51:37.000 I I agree with that I don't think that it some people get off of drugs and blame it or not blame it But they attribute it to like Jesus because they went to church right you can attribute it to whatever you want you did the work and So, so, I'm not saying that, not to say like, Tim, you didn't do anything, you didn't help this guy's life.

01:51:58.000 What I mean by that is, when he's talking about Trump, Trump created a space where a policy, this is what a politician's supposed to do, the policies, economically, more specifically, are supposed to benefit the American people.

01:52:10.000 If I can cut some of that red tape out and you see more of that bread come stay in your wallet, Absolutely.

01:52:15.000 You're going to be like, yo, again, me, I'm going like, yeah, bro, there's a trickle down there because some of that red tape is cut.

01:52:22.000 If you're not going to be honest about that, we can't even have a conversation.

01:52:26.000 You can yell at me about what he said and how the media spun it.

01:52:29.000 We can have that conversation.

01:52:31.000 But this directly resulted in that.

01:52:33.000 And I got to agree with that.

01:52:34.000 When my friend gets a presidential pardon, which is like a unicorn, Right?

01:52:41.000 When my friend gets a presidential pardon for non-violent offenses that she's going to be able to lawfully purchase and defend her life with firearms now, I have to acknowledge that.

01:52:51.000 So yeah, in that regard, but I want people to make sure that we're not just tying it to one administration.

01:52:58.000 Now he has to, since he has that and he has a taste of that, He has to make sure that he's doing everything in his power to empower the next person like you did for him, like President Trump, that he might run, that guy should run for office.

01:53:11.000 Dude, Gary.

01:53:11.000 That's the blue collar dude that we need in those type of local seats.

01:53:16.000 So we got a question here from Alex Ray says, Tim, don't hate me for this, but I heard Vosh say that most of the deaths during the protest weren't committed by protesters.

01:53:24.000 That most of the victims were actually protesters, is that true?

01:53:29.000 Half true.

01:53:30.000 The rioters caused the deaths, and many of the deaths were other rioters.

01:53:34.000 But then there were certain individuals, like, I don't know if they include this in the death count, the Chas Chop deaths.

01:53:43.000 Those two kids who got gunned down in that car were not protesters, they were innocent people.

01:53:46.000 David Dorn was not a protester or a rioter.

01:53:49.000 So, I don't believe I've ever said that the people who died were innocent people randomly caught up.

01:53:55.000 You know, I've mentioned those that are innocent and got caught up when they do.

01:53:58.000 I just say the deaths are bad.

01:54:00.000 Like, there was the pawn shop that burned down in Minneapolis and they found a body in it.

01:54:04.000 We don't know who that guy was.

01:54:05.000 It was a pawn shop burned down and they found a corpse like a month later.

01:54:08.000 So yeah, a lot of people died, and I don't care if you're a cop, I don't care if you're a criminal, I don't care if you're a protester, I don't care if you're an innocent person.

01:54:16.000 I don't want people dying.

01:54:18.000 Look, people who go out and do dumb things and riot, I don't want them to die, man.

01:54:23.000 I want them to learn and do better, and I want to figure out how we work together. 0.70

01:54:27.000 But I think when people start calling for death, they feel like they're justified, that's when it's like, dude, we can't solve our problems if it's all we're doing.

01:54:34.000 The French Revolution, man.

01:54:36.000 But I get it, man. 0.73

01:54:37.000 There are people who are so insane, you're never going to convince them.

01:54:39.000 They're just so disillusioned.

01:54:41.000 It's a symptom.

01:54:43.000 I think we kind of touched on it.

01:54:45.000 It's like an unavoidable symptom of sending all of our jobs, a portion of our labor force overseas, and locking people into their houses and making them lose their jobs. 0.98

01:54:56.000 And you feel like that person may start, it's easier for that person to feel like they don't have purpose.

01:55:03.000 If that person doesn't feel like they have purpose, and if they can ID it with, okay, my life is crashing down around me, especially if they can't see, A, a way out, and B, what policies made that happen and what party or person enacted that, that person starts to lash out.

01:55:24.000 And that person feels, like you said, disillusioned and separated from that American dream at that point.

01:55:29.000 As opposed to this guy, Gary, who's like, Man, Tim, you just told me something that makes absolute sense to me.

01:55:38.000 And tying in with this, that person now feels that purpose.

01:55:43.000 And we just got to drive people that way.

01:55:44.000 So we got a from Captain.

01:55:45.000 He says, Tim, in your first video today, you mentioned how police need to demilitarize.

01:55:49.000 What offensive military equipment do they use?

01:55:52.000 All the military gear they have is to protect their lives.

01:55:56.000 Well, you added the word offensive military equipment.

01:55:59.000 I'm not entirely sure, you know, if that, if I said offensive, I was specifically talking about like APCs, MRAPs, you know, multiple, like, multi-unit, multi-city forces joining together.

01:56:12.000 I think the way I described it in terms of militarization is escalation.

01:56:18.000 When the cops start coming out in full tactical gear that looks like they're an army, and they've got long guns, and they're riding on the side of armored personnel carriers with LRADs on top, or maybe we'll get to that point where some cops in D.C.

01:56:34.000 apparently wanted active denial systems, which is directed energy weapons.

01:56:37.000 Migrates your skin, makes you feel like you're on fire. 1.00

01:56:40.000 If they start taking, you know, normal weapons like this, it's escalation.

01:56:43.000 Now, I'm not saying I know what the solution is.

01:56:46.000 I'm just saying, I think we've put too much extra resources into ridiculous things like, you gotta see these vehicles of these gigantic, what are they called?

01:56:53.000 MRAPs, I think.

01:56:54.000 And it's like, I get that those exist to protect police's lives, and that's why we can have certain areas that do have them.

01:57:00.000 But I think our resources could be better spent in other places.

01:57:03.000 Do they carry sniper rifles?

01:57:05.000 The cops?

01:57:05.000 Because those are offensive weapons.

01:57:06.000 I don't know about carry.

01:57:08.000 He's asking about offensive weaponry versus defensive weaponry.

01:57:11.000 Not offensive but offensive I think is the question.

01:57:14.000 If the government has it, the people should have it.

01:57:17.000 Yeah.

01:57:18.000 But I guess there's tough questions, man.

01:57:21.000 What about escalation?

01:57:22.000 The cops come out with a sniper rifle because you got a hostage situation and they want to try and get the sniper and take out the sniper and then the hostages start showing up with snipers of their own in their own windows, you know what I mean?

01:57:33.000 I get it.

01:57:33.000 I'm not saying it's a... It's an unfortunate conundrum.

01:57:37.000 However, I do not trust the government more than I trust the people.

01:57:43.000 That's a good point, man.

01:57:44.000 And it's the people are the government that there's even a diversion is so weird.

01:57:48.000 Right?

01:57:48.000 So so like there's not an extra like, and don't get me wrong.

01:57:52.000 I know officers that train.

01:57:54.000 You know, one of my favorite Instagram channels is knockout lights.

01:57:57.000 Mike is a officer's officer.

01:58:00.000 Right?

01:58:00.000 He's got, like, a beautiful, like, his daughter, Tactical Trinity, they used to shoot together, and Not-So-Tactical Trinity, and he's got a, like, a newborn baby, and stuff like that.

01:58:09.000 You know, and his lady, the family, he's a cop, he's law enforcement, SWAT, all of the stuff.

01:58:15.000 Do I think that Mike trains?

01:58:17.000 Yes.

01:58:17.000 Do I think that Mike would de-escalate?

01:58:19.000 Yes.

01:58:20.000 But unfortunately, a lot of guys, in my experience, do not de-escalate.

01:58:24.000 So to Tim's point, that escalation is there.

01:58:27.000 Now, I don't think that there's a special type of human that happens to be law enforcement.

01:58:33.000 So if law enforcement and the military has it, the American people should have it.

01:58:39.000 Just like if, okay, instead of there being two political parties that are like more interested in their side winning, more so than what's better for America as a whole and your individual rights.

01:58:50.000 Okay, add more parties.

01:58:53.000 Stop letting it be a duopoly monopoly.

01:58:55.000 It's just, it's the two-party system is a result of like a natural tendency between people and then the system creates this, you know, like the natural one-person, one-vote system results in a two-party system.

01:59:07.000 Tribalism.

01:59:08.000 Tell that to the Chinese Communist Party.

01:59:10.000 Oh, well that, yeah.

01:59:11.000 So I'm gonna pull up this harsh criticism because I think there's a lot of people who, uh... It's, it's, it's... There's a decent percentage of people who are disliking and have criticism, and I think it's important to highlight.

01:59:24.000 Give me the hard one.

01:59:24.000 The ugly one.

01:59:25.000 So we got, this was a big super chat too.

01:59:26.000 This guy, this guy dropped a hundred bucks to say this.

01:59:29.000 His last name is Hunt, and his first name is Mike.

01:59:31.000 Mike. 0.97

01:59:32.000 And he says, This guy is a product of indoctrination and ignorance. 0.98

01:59:36.000 It's just sad. 0.97

01:59:36.000 I grew up in a city probably much worse than his, and he's been taught to believe lies. 0.97

01:59:41.000 He is completely ignorant to the truth, and to be fair, it's not his fault. 0.53

01:59:45.000 I'm- I- I- I- I- I- I personally- That's a vague statement. 0.97

01:59:49.000 That was a word salad.

01:59:51.000 But I think when you're talking about principle of liberty and stuff, I think you're pretty fair-minded.

01:59:55.000 I think you made points about race and reparations and stuff that I disagree with.

02:00:00.000 I don't see why we can't have a conversation.

02:00:01.000 I'm not going to sit here and just be like, you're right.

02:00:03.000 Everything you're saying is right.

02:00:04.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:05.000 So let's go back to the reparations thing, because I'm pretty sure, based on Mike, if I had to bet money, it's either reparations or me being critical of American history, right?

02:00:16.000 I haven't said anything about, what I said in regards to reparation was the contradiction.

02:00:20.000 On one hand, we're not allowed to have a conversation about reparations for black people, people that identify as African American, right?

02:00:28.000 But on the other hand, we have given reparations to Jewish people. 1.00

02:00:32.000 We have given reparations to indigenous people, Native Americans. 1.00

02:00:36.000 We, as a nation, we, we, have given reparations to these scenarios but we and the argument when it comes to black people is well who's going to pay for it but very recently we just printed up three trillion dollars 0.66

02:00:55.000 That didn't get back to the American people by and large, right?

02:00:59.000 So, to me, I'm talking about exposing a contradiction.

02:01:02.000 I'm not saying I'm for or against reparations.

02:01:05.000 I'm talking about your reason for saying why you can't is a clear contradiction.

02:01:09.000 So, I think that's what a lot of people think you're saying, like you're legitimately for it.

02:01:13.000 But we do have another comment here from Garhant.

02:01:15.000 He said, 600,000 people died to end slavery.

02:01:19.000 The U.S.

02:01:19.000 paid that price in blood.

02:01:21.000 It was bloody and gruesome, but that price was paid.

02:01:23.000 Base yourself in reality, not 1619 fairy tales.

02:01:30.000 So that guy should tell me what the economic infrastructure of America was built on.

02:01:36.000 Slavery.

02:01:38.000 Slavery.

02:01:39.000 Listen, it happened.

02:01:41.000 War is conquest. 0.87

02:01:42.000 You lost.

02:01:43.000 Native Americans, you lost. 1.00

02:01:45.000 Black Americans, African, from the motherland, you lost. 1.00

02:01:49.000 You were conquered. 0.99

02:01:51.000 For tens of thousands of years, Europeans, the Spain, the Moors in Spain, conquered and dominated. 1.00

02:01:57.000 Timbuktu, Technotitlan, name any melanated place.

02:02:04.000 The pyramids are 10,000 years old.

02:02:06.000 So we're talking about American history, which our nation is very, very young.

02:02:11.000 So my ability to assess from a global perspective and a currently where we live at perspective, just because you don't like the facts of the matter doesn't mean that I'm disillusioned.

02:02:21.000 You don't like the fact that I'm saying it.

02:02:22.000 And I love where I live.

02:02:24.000 The reality is the economic infrastructure of America was on the backs of black people. 1.00

02:02:31.000 That is the reality.

02:02:33.000 You lost.

02:02:35.000 You didn't have a gun when the conquerors came.

02:02:38.000 You lost.

02:02:40.000 Native Americans, you lost! 1.00

02:02:42.000 That doesn't change what happened.

02:02:45.000 So that's what war is.

02:02:46.000 War is conquest. 0.87

02:02:48.000 If America didn't win, if George and the boys weren't outlaws, criminals, because that's what they were. 0.96

02:02:58.000 They were terrorists. 0.99

02:02:59.000 Terrorists! 1.00

02:03:00.000 They were definitely going to get hung. 0.99

02:03:01.000 Yep.

02:03:02.000 Right?

02:03:02.000 They won.

02:03:03.000 They won.

02:03:04.000 That's it.

02:03:04.000 That's the only difference.

02:03:06.000 They would not have the same level of... They won.

02:03:09.000 They won.

02:03:11.000 Regular dudes.

02:03:12.000 Right?

02:03:13.000 That's the difference. 0.99

02:03:15.000 So, I think what people don't like is their cognitive, their feels get a little bit, when this dude that's American as fuck, I beep that out, right? 0.99

02:03:27.000 When that dude, when that dude that's black that literally has a come and take it shirt on under here, right? 1.00

02:03:34.000 It's a really cool shirt.

02:03:37.000 It says come and take it with graffiti all over it and all this AR, SBR.

02:03:42.000 If I'm saying that as a melanated American, American, that is identifying our nation's good and bad and being honest about it, if that makes you feel some type of way, you may not be being intellectually honest. 0.93

02:03:57.000 Someone tell me, all these guys that are saying this, Tell me what the economic infrastructure of America was created on.

02:04:08.000 Here's the real difficult thing with the way YouTube algorithm works, right?

02:04:13.000 I think I've had a lot of people on the show that I really disagree with, and we find things we agree on, and sometimes we don't, and I'll just be like, well, I disagree with you, and I'll say it.

02:04:22.000 Boom.

02:04:23.000 And the problem is, there's a lot of people right now trying to generate as many dislikes as possible.

02:04:27.000 They're not really generating that many.

02:04:29.000 I respect their right to dislike whatever.

02:04:31.000 I don't deserve anything from any of these people.

02:04:33.000 If you don't like it, by all means.

02:04:34.000 But it makes it really hard because if you think that we shouldn't at least hear what you have to say or other people who disagree have to say then it's just gonna fall into tribal extremism again.

02:04:43.000 Right.

02:04:44.000 So I'm more than... I would love to have a show with like some far-left and even people sitting in chairs.

02:04:48.000 It's hard to get these people in.

02:04:49.000 Plus many of them are racist and I'm like I'm not sure I feel about that.

02:04:52.000 Like no joke.

02:04:53.000 Like I'm not gonna sit here and have them bash on certain races or anything like that, you know?

02:04:56.000 So my question for people who are really, really hating on this conversation is, how does that make you any different from the far left?

02:05:04.000 Right.

02:05:04.000 Why are you trying to shut down conversation just because you don't... Well, I think you guys might be a little harsh.

02:05:10.000 There were some good points brought up.

02:05:11.000 No, no, no.

02:05:13.000 I get their points, but they're wrong.

02:05:16.000 I understand how they're wrong.

02:05:19.000 They're wrong.

02:05:20.000 So to say I'm disillusioned, right?

02:05:23.000 I thoroughly study American, our nation's history.

02:05:27.000 All of it.

02:05:28.000 I've read Mein Kampf three times.

02:05:31.000 I don't like Hitler.

02:05:33.000 Right? 0.85

02:05:34.000 I want to know what makes a person like that tick.

02:05:36.000 My struggle.

02:05:37.000 I need to know what your struggle was, Hitler. 0.83

02:05:40.000 What was your struggle that made you kill millions of people and almost take over like most of the modern world?

02:05:48.000 Right?

02:05:48.000 I don't have to agree with Hitler.

02:05:50.000 I don't think that Jewish people are the scourge of the universe. 0.98

02:05:53.000 Right? 0.98

02:05:53.000 I don't think that. 0.98

02:05:55.000 But for me to not read Mein Kampf is stupid. 0.99

02:05:59.000 Right? 0.98

02:05:59.000 I can evaluate and go, this guy had some... First of all, he went to go get an Adinkra symbol. 0.98

02:06:05.000 And the Dinkra symbol, that swastika, is an ancient African symbol.

02:06:10.000 I thought it was Indian.

02:06:12.000 A lot of people do.

02:06:13.000 That's why it's on the Buddha's head.

02:06:14.000 But that predates the Sankofa, bird, and all those other different symbols.

02:06:19.000 It's in the Dinkra symbol. 0.99

02:06:21.000 Hitler also said he would trade his army for 10,000 Africans with the knowledge of themselves.

02:06:29.000 Somebody go look it up and disprove me.

02:06:31.000 So my thing is, I don't have to agree or like our nation's ugly history.

02:06:38.000 Again, no one in this chat can say, I'm this person calling for the flaming end of America.

02:06:44.000 I think that our nation, us included, We have not addressed this issue head on enough because we tend to not want to have the discourse.

02:06:54.000 We tend to, no, not my America.

02:06:57.000 Yes, your America too.

02:06:58.000 The reality is you, we didn't, we don't have any four mothers.

02:07:06.000 That's a problem.

02:07:07.000 I mean, we do, but they're not called the founding mothers, right?

02:07:11.000 Exactly.

02:07:11.000 Abigail Adams.

02:07:12.000 But that's what I mean.

02:07:14.000 But you get what I'm saying?

02:07:15.000 Susan B. Anthony, but that was the well after.

02:07:17.000 That's well after.

02:07:18.000 Now, my point in saying that is, there was a time in our nation when women could not vote. 0.99

02:07:24.000 I'm not a woman.

02:07:25.000 I'm not affected by that negatively, or my lineage, or my great... I wasn't alive then, right?

02:07:32.000 But to acknowledge that that's an ugly part of our history, Like, that's ugly, bro.

02:07:38.000 I think it's confusing with reparations because the people that were the slaves are dead now.

02:07:43.000 So we can't pay them back.

02:07:45.000 We can't like repair them.

02:07:46.000 But, so it's confusing.

02:07:48.000 I think it's confusing people.

02:07:49.000 So how, so how, how did the Jewish people that were the vast majority of those 6 million people were dead?

02:07:58.000 If those are the dead people.

02:08:00.000 They're families.

02:08:01.000 And the things that were destroyed and things like that.

02:08:03.000 My great, my grandmother is alive.

02:08:05.000 My grandmother's 90 something years old.

02:08:08.000 Her mother was a slave. 1.00

02:08:10.000 Wow. 0.64

02:08:11.000 Wow.

02:08:11.000 This isn't that far removed.

02:08:13.000 Right, right.

02:08:14.000 So that's my family.

02:08:15.000 Yeah, dude.

02:08:16.000 So when we're talking about like math and like logic and data and numbers, America's only a few hundred years old.

02:08:24.000 The country.

02:08:25.000 Right.

02:08:27.000 So when people are having these conversations or saying these things, you're just exposing to me how much you're not paying attention to the numbers and the short timeline.

02:08:36.000 The timeline is this little.

02:08:38.000 We just, because we're like 50, 60, 70 years old, we think that that's, it is a long time, but in a bigger picture and scheme of things, like in 1965, Like, people, black people couldn't drink at water fountains. 0.79

02:08:53.000 Like, that's like... Well, they had their own water fountains.

02:08:56.000 And Black Lives Matter is trying to make that happen, sort of, again.

02:09:00.000 But my thing to that is, like, this, having a contextual conversation, it's like, let's reverse it.

02:09:07.000 I'll say something that some of those guys that may disagree with me will agree with me now.

02:09:13.000 Why are you calling President Trump a racist?

02:09:15.000 I need to see the footage.

02:09:18.000 Even him being mad at the, you know, the Central Park Five and him getting mis- He was a New York Democrat for however long.

02:09:26.000 Him getting media manipulated, it happens to the best of us.

02:09:30.000 But I can say, okay, more recently, these are the people, the black people that I know personally, that his policies let out of jail. 0.99

02:09:38.000 Felons! 0.98

02:09:39.000 And got him jobs?

02:09:40.000 And got him jobs.

02:09:40.000 No unemployment?

02:09:41.000 So when we're talking about the left calling him a racist, wherever you stand on him, I need to see the evidence and the proof of that.

02:09:50.000 I think he's a blowhard capitalist, and a lot of times the class issue starts to converge with the race issue because a lot of the ex-slaves and their families are of the lower class because they came from less money.

02:10:01.000 But then I got to interrupt.

02:10:04.000 I don't want to make it seem like most people are angry at all.

02:10:07.000 No, no, no.

02:10:08.000 Most people are chilling.

02:10:09.000 I mean, those people that are there... I just want to make sure I give space to those who are saying they're unhappy and make sure we challenge our ideas.

02:10:16.000 Their arguments that they disagree with me are always generally very general.

02:10:21.000 Very vague.

02:10:22.000 And they never say, this is where you're wrong and here's the proof.

02:10:26.000 Let me read the super chat real quick.

02:10:27.000 This is from Mirren Nalin said, love the guest today.

02:10:31.000 Took me a second to get past my emotional response to chew on the conversation.

02:10:35.000 Question, should there be a push for the concept of national civic goals?

02:10:39.000 Something like creating the infrastructure for space mining?

02:10:41.000 The first thing I just want to point out is, People are super engaged, even the people who are challenging a lot of what you say.

02:10:49.000 I want to make sure nobody feels like we're leaving you behind.

02:10:53.000 If we got to do Chung on the show and you really don't agree with me, I'm reading, man.

02:10:56.000 I'm seeing your comments.

02:10:57.000 I'm going to read your superchats.

02:10:58.000 I'm not going to let someone come in here and say stuff you disagree with and just ignore.

02:11:03.000 Nah, we'll challenge everybody.

02:11:04.000 And I think if you think they're wrong and they think you're wrong, I mean, isn't it cool that we're having a conversation and we say, hey, we're Americans, you think we're wrong?

02:11:13.000 Here's the smoother thing about that.

02:11:16.000 When I'm wrong and it's proven, I'll go, oh man, I was wrong.

02:11:21.000 I think what we need is just to have the conversation.

02:11:23.000 And it's hard to do in a medium where a lot of these people who want to have their voice heard, it's like, I can only read a handful of the comments.

02:11:28.000 But once we get the neural net, no, I'm just kidding.

02:11:30.000 Then they'll be like virtually here and we'll be like, yo, dude, listen, I'm all about listening to everybody.

02:11:36.000 I'd love to have Antifa, you know, come in and say other things.

02:11:39.000 And we'd have a crazy argument or whatever.

02:11:42.000 So I should qualify what I said because I did come off a little bit harsh and I don't mean to condescend at the chat.

02:11:47.000 No, no, no.

02:11:48.000 I would say to the people who do disagree that this is the perfect opportunity to kind of polish your own thinking and be like, okay, why do I disagree with this?

02:11:56.000 What are some ways that I can kind of Or just super chat and I'll read it.

02:12:02.000 Here's where he's wrong at.

02:12:04.000 The American infrastructure was built on X. If it's cotton, the railroad... I want to make sure I get to the actual question though.

02:12:15.000 Should there be national civic goals like space mining and stuff?

02:12:19.000 Space mining?

02:12:20.000 So the question they're asking is like, I think it pertains to the space race where we as a country were like, we're going to the moon, baby.

02:12:26.000 Should we as a country be like, here's our mission.

02:12:28.000 Here's what we as a country should do.

02:12:30.000 These cool things go to Mars, you know, mine asteroids, you know, build underwater cities or something.

02:12:37.000 So I think before we do that, I think that a national goal would be to, um, Start the conversation and apply legislation or remove legislation that is an impediment to us being what our ideals say we are.

02:12:56.000 So for example, if we can prove that the origin of cannabis, to go back to that decriminalization, was this guy saying, I think that Cannabis, or marijuana is what he said, makes white women want to sleep with Negro jazz musicians. 0.64

02:13:16.000 If that was his basis, and then that basis turned into policy, you took a moral position.

02:13:22.000 I think he was trying to manipulate people.

02:13:24.000 Absolutely.

02:13:25.000 And if legislation was created, and now we got people in jail because of the origin of that.

02:13:30.000 When you want to learn something, you got to go to the natural genesis of it.

02:13:33.000 Yeah.

02:13:34.000 And if we can say, okay, this is factually accurate.

02:13:38.000 If I'm lying, I'm flying.

02:13:40.000 Now that policy's been created off of this and this is fed into the war on drugs and so forth and so on, let's repeal that.

02:13:46.000 I think that that should be some of the things that are national goals.

02:13:49.000 Yeah, he said that stuff about hemp because they were making hemp paper and he had all the trees and wanted to make it out of hemp.

02:13:55.000 Yep, it was a business.

02:13:56.000 So we got someone who was really trying to get a question.

02:13:58.000 Zerink says, I'll risk wasting my money again.

02:14:00.000 Don't worry, I got you, bro.

02:14:01.000 The fact that women couldn't vote doesn't mean anything in light of the fact most men were conscripted and couldn't vote.

02:14:07.000 No woman was forced to do that. 1.00

02:14:09.000 It's a good point.

02:14:10.000 So it is a good point.

02:14:11.000 So, but I disagree with that.

02:14:13.000 The fact that no women could vote doesn't mean anything.

02:14:16.000 It means something.

02:14:17.000 It means you're focusing on men and not women.

02:14:20.000 All of the people around me that give quality, uh, not all, but a lot of the people around me to give quality, uh, counsel are women.

02:14:27.000 I think, I think there's interesting, interesting context in, uh, I don't think it's a simple, I'm not trying to accuse you of saying this, that like we just told women they couldn't vote.

02:14:36.000 Yeah.

02:14:36.000 I think it was.

02:14:39.000 Early on, only landowners could vote. 0.68

02:14:42.000 And everybody says, like, wow, that's so ridiculous and oppressive, and they don't actually understand the context.

02:14:47.000 And then someone made a really good point, I saw this on Twitter, they said, there were no IDs, there was no way to prove who you were, land ownership was the only way anyone knew you were a member of the community and were voting on issues relative to literally where you lived.

02:15:00.000 The reason the men voted and the women didn't is because the man was the head of the household who would go to the meetings while the woman was taking care of things, and it was assumed the man and the woman's vote was combined, right?

02:15:10.000 And so you actually had young men going to war and dying.

02:15:13.000 Women didn't have to do that. 1.00

02:15:14.000 You actually had young men who also could not vote because they weren't landowners either, but they still had to die for the country and were conscripted into other, like volunteer fire brigade and stuff like that.

02:15:22.000 Now those are the things that are the contradictions that, to highlight that, Because it's not simple.

02:15:28.000 It's not like this one user-friendly, one-size-fit-all answer. 0.96

02:15:32.000 No, just men were evil and they hated women.

02:15:35.000 No, but it speaks to a contradiction.

02:15:38.000 Not a contradiction necessarily of malice, necessarily, but a contradiction of, hey, we got to rethink this.

02:15:45.000 Because at a certain point, we rethought it.

02:15:47.000 You know what I mean?

02:15:48.000 We went- I think it had to do with our society changed.

02:15:51.000 Right!

02:15:51.000 We had bigger cities, not everybody was owning land, but now we had IDs, we understood who was a member of the community, why they should vote, system changed.

02:15:59.000 And all of these things are why I'm saying when we're talking about atoning, and readdressing, and self-correcting, and course-correcting, these are things that are very important.

02:16:08.000 And when we're not doing that, again, at a certain point, it was malicious.

02:16:12.000 Yo, you're black, you can't own a gun, that is the origin of gun control in America. 1.00

02:16:16.000 Period. 0.99

02:16:17.000 And with that being the case, it's like, nah bro, that's not right.

02:16:20.000 We have to course correct.

02:16:21.000 During the time when someone can acknowledge that, hey man, there was a time when this wasn't what it was, we were wrong then.

02:16:27.000 We were limited.

02:16:28.000 We were not as evolved in our understanding of liberty and humanity as we got to a certain point.

02:16:37.000 I think a little bit.

02:16:39.000 I think a lot of has to do with technology and culture and society.

02:16:41.000 And just people fighting against it. People saying, yo, you're not gonna treat me like a slave, like I don't

02:16:47.000 have a voice.

02:16:48.000 Yeah.

02:16:48.000 You know what I mean? People going like...

02:16:50.000 Because let's play the twist game.

02:16:53.000 There also was black people that owned people in America. 0.60

02:16:56.000 And I read this on Snopes. 0.91

02:16:58.000 The first slave owner was a black dude.

02:17:00.000 So with that, then it was about going to the class concept.

02:17:03.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:17:04.000 And so now does that like justify all white people doing it?

02:17:08.000 No.

02:17:09.000 But what I'm saying is there's layers and gradation to all of these things.

02:17:13.000 And I think, I don't want any of the people, especially the folks in the super chat to feel like I'm saying like, No, this happened, and America's evil.

02:17:21.000 Bro, again, I live here.

02:17:23.000 I've been to places that don't have a front door.

02:17:26.000 Yeah, dude.

02:17:27.000 Like, nah, I'm good.

02:17:29.000 I'm re-upping on America, like, every year.

02:17:31.000 We got another one here.

02:17:32.000 This is from Chief Strider.

02:17:33.000 He says, who built America?

02:17:35.000 What about the Hispanics, Chinese, Irish, etc.?

02:17:39.000 That's a great question, and I'm glad that he said it.

02:17:41.000 This.

02:17:43.000 Chinese.

02:17:45.000 Were they enslaved and brought over here?

02:17:47.000 No.

02:17:47.000 I think it was more like indentured servitude.

02:17:49.000 Right, and there's a difference between chattel slavery and indentured servitude.

02:17:52.000 For sure.

02:17:53.000 Made them build the railroads, but like they got dirt for it.

02:17:55.000 Right, which is horrible still.

02:17:57.000 But maybe not as horrible as like chattel slavery, right? 0.98

02:18:02.000 Native Americans, horrible. 1.00

02:18:04.000 They got the land, stole. 1.00

02:18:06.000 Like, that's it.

02:18:07.000 And again, I'm not saying it's like, we should give, it's not gonna happen.

02:18:11.000 You know what's crazy?

02:18:12.000 I was watching a Growth of America map.

02:18:15.000 I can't remember, oh, there was a recent Supreme Court ruling that basically gave half of, I think, Oklahoma, is it?

02:18:20.000 Or is it Kansas?

02:18:21.000 I don't know, like half of the city now falls under Native American jurisdiction.

02:18:24.000 It was like this crazy ruling.

02:18:26.000 So I was looking at this map of the westward expansion of the US and I didn't realize like it's new man

02:18:31.000 You know, we're born into this country assuming we got sea to shining sea

02:18:35.000 It's like actually no it's like past hundred years, you know

02:18:38.000 And so you can actually see on this map Native American territory just being erased in the 1800s now when you say

02:18:45.000 that Tim Are you calling for the fall of America or?

02:18:50.000 Or for America to give the land back to the people?

02:18:54.000 That Supreme Court ruling was nuts, man.

02:18:57.000 So what I'm saying is, this is what happened.

02:18:59.000 That happened.

02:19:00.000 That doesn't mean... We have to not repeat that?

02:19:06.000 We gotta be intellectually honest about it, man.

02:19:09.000 We can't pretend like that didn't happen.

02:19:11.000 I got one here for you.

02:19:12.000 Attica Ray says, Dear guest, what do you think about recognizing our history but letting the past lie?

02:19:18.000 I'm a woman and my grandmother was a slave too, but I will not be a victim stuck in the past.

02:19:22.000 Nothing today stops us from being successful.

02:19:24.000 I 100%, I 95% agree with that.

02:19:28.000 I wonder why people think you wouldn't agree with that.

02:19:30.000 That's not what I got from the conversation.

02:19:31.000 Because they think that They don't know, maybe, that I do whatever I want to do all the time.

02:19:40.000 No one's like... I'm a melanated American that's a Second Amendment constitutional activist and advocate.

02:19:50.000 Everything in my schooling told me that the Second Amendment and the Constitution wasn't for you.

02:19:57.000 I do not believe that.

02:19:58.000 Because I know, if you can trick somebody into believing that, great.

02:20:03.000 Great for you.

02:20:03.000 Not for them.

02:20:05.000 You're not going to trick me into it.

02:20:08.000 Yeah, maybe they did mean, well, not the three-fifths people.

02:20:11.000 Most people don't even know what the three-fifths clause actually meant.

02:20:14.000 Yeah, they don't know the history of it.

02:20:15.000 Right.

02:20:16.000 But... It's always inverted.

02:20:18.000 Right.

02:20:19.000 So I saw a meme where they said, the Southerners didn't want their slaves to vote, and the North wanted them to.

02:20:25.000 And it's like, actually, no, the South wanted power.

02:20:27.000 They said, we have people, their votes, and it was the North saying no, you know?

02:20:30.000 The twist is...

02:20:34.000 If I'm the black dude that's using the thing, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, during a time when black people in America were treated subhuman, if that's the thing that I'm using as the framework as we travel around the entire country to empower communities to stand up to they self, I don't know how anybody on earth would potentially think that I'm like asking for victimhood.

02:20:57.000 Talking about what happened and being honest about it So as to not repeat it?

02:21:02.000 To empower all Americans?

02:21:05.000 I don't want my Latin brothers and sisters, my Asian brothers and sisters to not pretend like their lineage didn't have a strong hand in building this country.

02:21:13.000 That's actually the beautiful thing about America.

02:21:15.000 We're a melting pot.

02:21:16.000 We cannot allow the small amount of racists that have a lot of power to convince us otherwise.

02:21:23.000 So when I say black people in America had a hand in building America, that's not to disparage white Americans.

02:21:30.000 If you're taking that personal, like the one sister said, I had to get past my emotional reaction to that.

02:21:35.000 Respectable.

02:21:36.000 Right.

02:21:37.000 And I love that she said that.

02:21:38.000 If you're having an emotional reaction to that, to history, You're no different than the leftists that are saying, we got to tear down the statues because we don't like it.

02:21:48.000 You know, I kind of feel like, I think a lot of people are making the assumption you're saying straight up, we have to have reparations.

02:21:55.000 No.

02:21:55.000 You said, you didn't say yes or no.

02:21:57.000 You said that don't use the argument that we can't afford it when you're going to print three trillion.

02:22:01.000 Right.

02:22:01.000 And I agree with that.

02:22:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

02:22:02.000 They just started printing money like crazy. 0.95

02:22:04.000 It's a clear contradiction that never in world history has this worked out good economically.

02:22:09.000 Dude, I'm so down to talk about a reparation because that's such an interesting concept.

02:22:12.000 Because I wouldn't even want fiat currency as a reparation.

02:22:14.000 What would be the right reparations?

02:22:16.000 How do we repair the system?

02:22:18.000 I just want to say, the super chat's on fire.

02:22:23.000 Because everybody really wants to throw stuff your way.

02:22:27.000 I can't read every single one, but it's lit up.

02:22:31.000 What's the best way people can Tweet you all the things they're concerned about you can answer it.

02:22:36.000 You know what I mean?

02:22:36.000 Yeah, yeah Anytime my Twitter's Maj2Ray M-A-J-T-O-U-R-E I got five phones, so I'm I'm pretty a lot of phones, bro.

02:22:46.000 Yeah walk around with this Hot spot yeah, you know I mean Twitter Instagram M-A-J-T-O-U-R-E And I'll show you you know follow me.

02:22:55.000 I'll go back and forth I try to follow everybody that follows me up until whatever whatever platforms limit is I'll show you how you're wrong Um, if you're right, I'll go, man, you were right there.

02:23:08.000 That makes sense.

02:23:09.000 Yeah.

02:23:10.000 Like it's not complicated.

02:23:12.000 So, you know, everybody can, you know, but I also want to make sure that people understand what we do with our organization.

02:23:18.000 I want to clarify too, just in case people don't know, you're Black Lives Matter.

02:23:22.000 Right.

02:23:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:23.000 I wonder if people thought you were Black Lives Matter.

02:23:25.000 Right, I think they think that.

02:23:28.000 I am absolutely in opposition to Black Lives Matter. 1.00

02:23:33.000 That current structure and the quote-unquote leadership of Black Lives Matter, I unequivocally denounce and disagree with that.

02:23:40.000 I know that there's a guy behind the curtain, and it's not the people that they're putting in front of the curtain.

02:23:48.000 And even if it was the same people that's behind the curtain that's in front of it, the policy's wrong.

02:23:52.000 I don't care about something that's going to be damaging to the black community and supporting it just because it's black people saying it. 0.97

02:24:00.000 I don't care. 0.59

02:24:01.000 Is it beneficial for the community that I live in?

02:24:03.000 Because if the black community gets stronger, the rest of America continues to get stronger. 1.00

02:24:08.000 That's just what happens, right?

02:24:10.000 So I think people also got to understand that we go into the areas that are most impacted by these left democratic policies.

02:24:18.000 Mainly in regards to the second amendment and convincing black people that you know that Constitution ain't for you Something like that and empowering people that way we fundraise we've raised and given away over $360,000 to keep these classes free Talk about voluntarism and doing a social thing, right? 0.97

02:24:40.000 It's voluntary.

02:24:41.000 We're not taxing you.

02:24:42.000 You cannot do it if you don't want to, right?

02:24:45.000 We are helping people as a starting point and in each one of those classes we're telling people this isn't the end-all be-all.

02:24:51.000 You needed some basic information about firearm safety, conflict resolution, de-escalation, and political education.

02:24:57.000 This is the one class crutch.

02:25:00.000 Now we're not saying stay on the crutches.

02:25:02.000 That's how your muscles go into atrophy.

02:25:04.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:05.000 So it's not like this, we're the welfare, keeping you on and just keep listening to Black Guns Matter. 0.96

02:25:10.000 You're supposed to continue up the pyramid, right?

02:25:13.000 So I think people may not know that part, you know, as well as I think people don't know that I am vehemently opposed to government involvement and support.

02:25:23.000 I think that philanthropy and really rich people going, man, that community's been impacted.

02:25:30.000 I want to help by choice.

02:25:32.000 Right?

02:25:33.000 That's bigger to me than the government going, vote the way that we tell you to vote, and we're gonna give you, like, free Obama phones, and we're gonna make sure that you have, like, $1,100.

02:25:43.000 Like, what am I gonna do with $1,100, bro?

02:25:46.000 Like, seriously.

02:25:47.000 Like, in a real and meaningful way.

02:25:49.000 You wanna keep- that's how socialism creeps in and turns into communism.

02:25:54.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:25:54.000 So I think the people that are listening need to listen.

02:25:57.000 The people that are disagreeing, I love that you're disagreeing and being brave enough.

02:26:01.000 Because some people disagree and they're like quiet. 0.93

02:26:03.000 F that dude.

02:26:04.000 As opposed to opening up the conversation.

02:26:07.000 These people are straight up like, I will be heard.

02:26:09.000 Right.

02:26:10.000 We got a super chat here for you.

02:26:11.000 It's a good one.

02:26:12.000 He says, I love this dude.

02:26:13.000 Yeah.

02:26:14.000 We had another super chat from a guy who pointed out, and he gave us a, it was a pretty good super chat, I want to make sure I get his name, give him credit.

02:26:21.000 He said, YouTube's giving me the business, Royal Raptor says, this guy says, prove it, with only super chats and a 270 character max, think about it like this, how long does it take to poop on the floor versus how long does it take to clean it up?

02:26:32.000 Your statements, as empty as your grammar. 0.99

02:26:34.000 Pathetic. 1.00

02:26:36.000 Now, I don't know why you gotta be so... Why are people being so mean? 1.00

02:26:42.000 I don't get it, man.

02:26:43.000 But you notice he still didn't say anything.

02:26:45.000 He still didn't prove where I'm wrong.

02:26:46.000 What's up with that?

02:26:47.000 Because the question was, if I'm saying that America is our nation, our nation, where I live and love, Our nation's economy was built on the backs of melanated beings, whether that's yellow people with the railroads, that's how resources are moved, right? 0.99

02:27:06.000 Whether that's black people, cotton, industries, all of those, textile manufacturing, all of that, right?

02:27:10.000 I'm saying that, and I'm asking someone to tell me, no, America's economy was created by this.

02:27:16.000 I think people just need to tweet at you, you know?

02:27:19.000 Because then you can argue with them all day, you know what I mean?

02:27:21.000 So look, I get it, guys.

02:27:22.000 We got a ton of Super Chats.

02:27:24.000 This is legit.

02:27:25.000 Um, and I appreciate it.

02:27:26.000 I try to read as many as I can, so we'll go a little bit longer.

02:27:29.000 But, uh, I mean, yeah, they can tweet at you.

02:27:31.000 And you guys can argue on the internet.

02:27:33.000 I got time.

02:27:35.000 I got an RV.

02:27:36.000 I got a fireplace in the RV.

02:27:38.000 I can do it by the fire.

02:27:39.000 David Franco Jr.

02:27:40.000 says, Hey man, you asked what built the American economy?

02:27:43.000 You can't dismiss all the other factors that built this place and only focus on the minimal gains from slavery.

02:27:48.000 Very few people could even afford slaves.

02:27:52.000 How many, okay, that's a good point.

02:27:54.000 And I'll, one other thing that goes along with it.

02:27:56.000 Someone mentioned only in certain areas, around 30% of, you know, areas.

02:28:01.000 So most of the country didn't have slavery.

02:28:03.000 So it's, it's, that's the point they're making.

02:28:05.000 And that's a, that's a good, I hear this a lot.

02:28:08.000 How many billionaires are there in America?

02:28:10.000 I think there's four, there might be between like four and 600.

02:28:16.000 No, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's wrong, that's wrong, that's global.

02:28:18.000 I think America, I don't know, a couple hundred, maybe.

02:28:20.000 A couple hundred.

02:28:21.000 A couple hundred billionaires.

02:28:23.000 Yeah.

02:28:23.000 A lot of them own a lot of the media, like the Rupert Murdoch's and the whatever, right?

02:28:28.000 Oh, they definitely.

02:28:29.000 Right.

02:28:29.000 And it's a small amount of them that controls like national and sometimes international media.

02:28:34.000 Right.

02:28:35.000 So there's a few amount of people that control the economic infrastructure or choices that go into the social, political and economic landscape of America.

02:28:46.000 So when you make this argument that only a few people owned a lot of the resources.

02:28:52.000 That doesn't change the fact that the entire structure was around those few people that did wrong.

02:28:58.000 And now, this does not mean... It sprawls.

02:29:00.000 It sprawls.

02:29:01.000 And this does not mean that... I'm not saying that, oh, all of you white folks were the people that... Come on, bro.

02:29:06.000 Like, don't, like, limit me to such a small and dismissive thing.

02:29:12.000 And I'm also saying that there were a lot of white abolitionists that were like, no, this is not okay.

02:29:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:29:19.000 John... John...

02:29:21.000 Brown.

02:29:22.000 Yeah.

02:29:23.000 I think we visited, yeah.

02:29:24.000 Like, Harper's Ferry, bro, like, come on, like, we not, we, I'm down with Bacon's Rebellion, I understand it.

02:29:32.000 So I'm not saying that all of you white people are just like, come on, bro, like, that's, that's really reductive.

02:29:39.000 But that does not change the fact that a small amount of people can influence the resources and change the structure of an entire nation and sometimes an entire globe.

02:29:53.000 Like, how many, like, Rome, like, Augustus, Julius Caesar.

02:29:59.000 Like, these guys changed Julius and Augustus changed the calendar.

02:30:05.000 Those are two dudes.

02:30:05.000 Yeah, that's funny.

02:30:07.000 Those are two dudes.

02:30:08.000 Rome was built on the back of slaves. 0.95

02:30:10.000 Kinda, but Julius was like, bro, I need a month, bro.

02:30:14.000 Augustus was like, bro, I need a month, and my month needs to be longer than his.

02:30:19.000 You're still counting July and August.

02:30:21.000 Those are two dudes that changed your concept of the calendar.

02:30:27.000 So don't, like, you can't, no, bro.

02:30:29.000 Jeff Bezos is really, really rich.

02:30:33.000 You know, look, there was the story about George Soros funding these DAs, and many of these DAs won't prosecute.

02:30:39.000 And people bring it up all the time, and I'm like, I hear ya.

02:30:41.000 And you got Mackenzie Bezos.

02:30:43.000 Right!

02:30:44.000 Listen, Jeff Bezos builds Amazon, and she definitely worked a long time.

02:30:48.000 I'm not going to diminish what her role was.

02:30:49.000 It was significant.

02:30:50.000 And then she divorced him, and she gets this big payout, and then dumps billions of dollars into all of this leftist stuff. 0.54

02:30:56.000 It's that all of these billionaires do this.

02:30:58.000 All of them.

02:30:59.000 But a lot of them.

02:31:00.000 Right, they're funding their ideas.

02:31:02.000 And wasn't it you said earlier, like, if you were rich, or someone said this, if I was rich, I'd probably do the same thing, right?

02:31:07.000 You're going to fund what you believe in.

02:31:08.000 I think Seamus said that yesterday.

02:31:09.000 Seamus said that yesterday, right, right.

02:31:11.000 Yeah, look, if you came across a billion dollars, wouldn't you want to fund gun programs?

02:31:18.000 Absolutely.

02:31:19.000 You see how it works?

02:31:20.000 But the difference for me is I actually am in alignment with, I can be honest about our nation's history while still trying to improve our nation's future.

02:31:29.000 I think George Washington had a bunch of slaves.

02:31:31.000 Thomas Jefferson had a bunch of slaves.

02:31:33.000 And I don't think those guys could have got done what they got done without them.

02:31:36.000 Now, they could have.

02:31:37.000 That's why Thomas Paine was pulling... It's conjecture, I don't know, but... Thomas Paine was... Because Thomas Paine didn't... That's why you don't hear about Thomas Paine as much.

02:31:45.000 This guy wrote Common Sense.

02:31:46.000 This dude is a... Freddie Mercury, somewhere else, was basically... Because the argument becomes, well, that was what happened during that time.

02:31:55.000 This was a dude, during that time, that influenced the mind in regards to liberty of a lot of the Founding Fathers.

02:32:03.000 That was one of those dudes that was like pissing people off because he wouldn't stay on one side.

02:32:08.000 He was objective, he was a critical thinker, he was very logical, and he assessed things situation by situation.

02:32:14.000 He was honest, even in the midst of when it was not convenient and popular to be honest.

02:32:19.000 So he didn't have as many friends, but they all pulled from his ideas in regards to liberty.

02:32:24.000 So when you have that, I understand completely.

02:32:27.000 If I'm saying, cause this is the same guy that was like, bro, y'all are talking about freedom and you can't like own people.

02:32:33.000 It's a contradiction.

02:32:35.000 This is the, there's quotes of him like, and I'm paraphrasing, I wasn't saying bro, you know what I mean?

02:32:40.000 But at the end of the day, it's like him during that time saying this is not okay.

02:32:45.000 A lone voice.

02:32:47.000 But it was money tied into slavery.

02:32:51.000 It was infrastructure tied into it.

02:32:53.000 And you didn't want to till that soil yourself.

02:32:56.000 And I get it!

02:32:56.000 I'm not tripping!

02:32:58.000 Physically could not have tilled that sewer.

02:33:01.000 Physically could not have.

02:33:02.000 I think the easiest way to put it, I can't read every single super chat, but they are pouring in.

02:33:07.000 And there's a ton of people saying, like, this is awesome.

02:33:09.000 A ton of people saying, like, this guy is so wrong.

02:33:12.000 So the reason I'm trying to highlight a lot of the criticism is because I think we're having a conversation and we're giving you your space, and everyone who agrees is just going along with it, and the people who disagree aren't getting their voice to counter and challenge.

02:33:24.000 And so a lot of people are trying to bring these things up.

02:33:26.000 I want to make sure I get to them.

02:33:27.000 So hey guys, you know, I'll do my best.

02:33:29.000 We're going to do our thing.

02:33:29.000 A lot of people saying, you got to come back.

02:33:32.000 We got to have more conversations.

02:33:34.000 But someone brought up a really good point to have you sit down and bring out like a black conservative and then have a bigger conversation so that we have more people challenging. 0.68

02:33:43.000 You know what I mean?

02:33:44.000 Like give these people who are upset Their avatar to be there and sit you and tell you, you know what I mean?

02:33:51.000 Yes, I 100% agree with that.

02:33:52.000 I actually did something like this last week in Saturday in Atlanta.

02:33:55.000 I had black conservatives, black liberals, independents, Democrats.

02:34:03.000 It was the Solutionary Summit.

02:34:04.000 We're going to start doing it annually.

02:34:06.000 You got to come to that next year.

02:34:07.000 I'm gonna have it in Miami, I think, Miami or Vegas.

02:34:09.000 No time for me, man.

02:34:11.000 Yeah, you can't.

02:34:11.000 No rest for the wicked.

02:34:12.000 You gotta do one of these there.

02:34:14.000 Maybe we have the van.

02:34:15.000 We're trying to figure out how we can convert it.

02:34:17.000 Maybe I gotta get an RV or something.

02:34:19.000 Get an RV.

02:34:19.000 Because that'd be cool.

02:34:20.000 Yeah.

02:34:21.000 Look, man, I'm all about honest, cordial conversations, you know, and rational discourse.

02:34:28.000 I think what we could use here is, I don't know, people more prepared to represent those that want to have that challenge.

02:34:34.000 You know what I mean?

02:34:35.000 That's what we're missing.

02:34:36.000 It's not intentional, I'm not trying to put anybody down.

02:34:38.000 We should do it in a debate.

02:34:39.000 We should do it, maybe do it at like the Soho Forum.

02:34:41.000 Who would be a good person?

02:34:43.000 So, you guys in Super Chat that, you know, want to see something different, who do you think would be a good person we could bring here and then you guys could have a debate?

02:34:49.000 Yeah.

02:34:50.000 And then I'll sit back, we'll do fact-checking and stuff, we could do all that stuff, that'd be fun.

02:34:53.000 Yup, that would be excellent.

02:34:54.000 But I mean like... They're gonna say people that I'd destroy though.

02:34:57.000 They're gonna say like the black conservative ink people that are afraid to debate me. 0.94

02:35:02.000 But you're a pretty conservative guy too, so I imagine like you're gonna end up agreeing on a bunch of things.

02:35:07.000 Because where we disagree, now if you're talking about, because that person said black conservative, right?

02:35:12.000 Those people aren't necessarily black conservatives.

02:35:14.000 Those people a lot of times are just statists and they're saying it.

02:35:17.000 Again, they're riding Trump wave, right?

02:35:20.000 Those people will say things like, police brutality is a myth.

02:35:24.000 And it's like, come on bro, I got beat up by the cops twice.

02:35:27.000 So that would mean, like, if it's a myth, like, the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot showed up to beat me up twice.

02:35:34.000 Now, I can exist in a space where I'm like, that was a horrible representation of law enforcement, but those guys exist.

02:35:41.000 Right?

02:35:42.000 Is it as highlighted as media, or is it as pronounced as media highlights it to be?

02:35:47.000 Absolutely not.

02:35:48.000 Those two things can be true at the same time.

02:35:49.000 Right.

02:35:50.000 But to dismiss it, so those are the people that they'd say, he should have, I've already done their shows.

02:35:54.000 I say the same thing, dude.

02:35:55.000 I say it all the time.

02:35:56.000 I'm like, I've had so many bad experiences with cops, but I recognize 375 million interactions mostly are not bad.

02:36:03.000 And like one guy could have a horrible interaction one day and be totally cool every other day.

02:36:08.000 So it's not like he's, it's not like, You can't segregate the people, the behavior.

02:36:13.000 You have to look at that policy.

02:36:15.000 You have to look at when you're talking about, because we started this conversation talking about Breonna Taylor.

02:36:19.000 You have to have the talk about the bigger picture.

02:36:21.000 The war on drugs is the problem.

02:36:24.000 It's putting law enforcement officers in unnecessary risk.

02:36:27.000 It's an unnecessary risk.

02:36:28.000 They don't know what they're going into.

02:36:30.000 Kenneth Walker didn't know who was kicking in their door.

02:36:33.000 So it's putting Americans on law enforcement side or citizen side in unnecessary harm.

02:36:40.000 So we got to have that conversation.

02:36:41.000 We got to have the conversation about too many laws being on the books.

02:36:45.000 We have to have those conversations.

02:36:46.000 And these type of discourses create room to get it to the bigger conversation.

02:36:50.000 We were just kind of mentioning sunset clauses built in.

02:36:52.000 Bless you.

02:36:54.000 Into, like, laws in general.

02:36:55.000 Like, this law will expire after five years, and in five years, you decide if you want to keep it or not.

02:37:00.000 Somebody, somebody said, Visidia says, Brandon Tatum 100%.

02:37:06.000 So let me tell you about Brandon Tatum.

02:37:07.000 I challenged Brandon Tatum and I said I'd bet him $50,000 of my own money for him and somebody else to debate me together.

02:37:16.000 He denied.

02:37:16.000 He wanted to do it on Skype and yell at each other.

02:37:19.000 A debate, Oxford style.

02:37:22.000 Problem is, these guys aren't smart enough.

02:37:24.000 Brandon Tatum doesn't read.

02:37:26.000 Oh, that's a glove slap, bro. 0.99

02:37:30.000 I will destroy Brandon Tatum. 0.98

02:37:33.000 Figuratively. 0.99

02:37:34.000 In a debate.

02:37:35.000 I said him and somebody else. 0.99

02:37:37.000 What he said was, because this was months ago, then he made a complete fool of himself. 0.73

02:37:40.000 He got on the Skype that they wanted me to be a part of. 0.79

02:37:43.000 I'm like, no, bro.

02:37:44.000 Let's sell tickets.

02:37:45.000 Then he said, is it all about the money?

02:37:47.000 I said, ho, I thought you were a Trump guy.

02:37:49.000 Trump's about free market capitalism.

02:37:52.000 You want people to do things for free, you socialist?

02:37:56.000 You socialist?

02:37:57.000 Now, when I said that to him, I said, let's do a Oxford-style debate.

02:38:02.000 You can get somebody else that you want.

02:38:03.000 I'll put up $50,000.

02:38:04.000 Winner take the money.

02:38:08.000 It's all about the money with you.

02:38:09.000 Oh, you mean like the money that you charge people for your merch?

02:38:13.000 He don't want no smoke with me.

02:38:14.000 It's gonna be rough.

02:38:16.000 You're dropping the gauntlet.

02:38:17.000 You got a glove slap.

02:38:18.000 Any body Anybody!

02:38:22.000 It actually isn't a debate to quote the master teacher Dr. John Henrik Clark.

02:38:27.000 I debate my equals.

02:38:29.000 All others I teach. 1.00

02:38:32.000 I will destroy these people. 0.99

02:38:35.000 And I want a debate based on rules and a clear... I want my victory solidified. 0.99

02:38:39.000 I don't want, like, you got more followers than me, so your peanut gallery's louder.

02:38:44.000 I'm down.

02:38:45.000 I'm totally down to have a debate.

02:38:47.000 I just gotta say civility.

02:38:49.000 We gotta make sure that... Absolutely.

02:38:50.000 We gotta make sure... Because I'll tell you this, man, if you're coming out this strong and you're saying these things about Brandon, well, you're putting him down before he even got started.

02:38:58.000 No, no, no.

02:39:00.000 There's gonna be a lot of emotion.

02:39:02.000 I respect him as a man.

02:39:05.000 I respect him as a human.

02:39:07.000 I think that he's not well-versed enough.

02:39:11.000 I think he knows the black conservative talking points.

02:39:15.000 I think that anyone that attempts to It's a contradiction.

02:39:21.000 If we say we're Christian, if he identifies as Christian, and you're not willing to give someone redemption, and you think that they, you know, should be killed because they happen to look in a construction site, or you think that, you know, they're guilty because of the way that they look, or so forth and so on, I think that is a contradiction to the belief in redemption. 0.55

02:39:43.000 Jesus was with the criminals.

02:39:45.000 Jesus, by definition, was a criminal.

02:39:48.000 He was speaking out against the state.

02:39:51.000 That's what happened.

02:39:52.000 He got crucified for it.

02:39:54.000 So these verbal crucifixions that I'm experiencing, that's nothing.

02:39:59.000 That's a walk in the park.

02:40:00.000 So I'm not disrespecting Brandon as a human.

02:40:03.000 I don't think that he's well-read enough to compete with me in a debate.

02:40:07.000 That's why I've already challenged him and said I'd put up $50,000 Yeah, no, no, no.

02:40:14.000 I'll finish your thoughts.

02:40:15.000 Sorry.

02:40:16.000 And he's scared.

02:40:18.000 People are talking about tons of other names as well.

02:40:20.000 Larry Elder, Candace Owens, the Hodge Twins.

02:40:22.000 Again, the Hodge Twins follow me. 0.98

02:40:24.000 I like the Hodge Twins.

02:40:25.000 Those dudes are hilarious.

02:40:28.000 I think they have a subtle, they have more of a balanced approach on a lot of things.

02:40:31.000 You know why I think this will be really interesting is because you're a libertarian with conservative leanings.

02:40:35.000 You're not like an SJW far-left guy, but you have some opinions that are closer there, you know.

02:40:41.000 Because I understand the fact, like you, like when you're saying, I'm left on some areas because some social issues should be addressed.

02:40:49.000 Yeah.

02:40:49.000 Right?

02:40:50.000 It's the same thing.

02:40:51.000 But you're, I'm supposed to not be able to say that if I'm conservative or black. 0.85

02:40:55.000 I'm supposed to say, you SJWs don't have any point. 0.61

02:41:00.000 You Antifa guys don't have, even a broke clock's right twice a day.

02:41:05.000 Exactly.

02:41:05.000 That's the problem I have with them on Trump.

02:41:07.000 Right!

02:41:07.000 Come on, man.

02:41:08.000 If you were being honest, you'd at least give him credit for the things he did right.

02:41:11.000 And that's my point.

02:41:12.000 So because I'm doing that in every area, moment to moment, reminiscent of a Thomas Paine, I can't say I want to continue to evolve as a thinker, as a philosopher, as an activist, as a constitutionalist.

02:41:26.000 I can't say that and ignore the evolution of our great thinkers.

02:41:29.000 You can't ignore the evolution of a Malcolm X. They went from a straight-up criminal to like mad and frustrated and came home and hated white 0.88

02:41:37.000 people, goes to Mecca, comes back and goes, hey man, I was wrong about that part. I'm not wrong about 1.00

02:41:42.000 the fact that there are serious issues that black people in America are facing at that time

02:41:46.000 especially. So you can't ignore his evolution like and just go, oh he's all bad.

02:41:53.000 You cannot do that if you're being objective about things.

02:41:56.000 And if I was to do that in that spirit and not be objective about every such scenario.

02:42:02.000 So again, Breonna Taylor, I understand fully why the two officers that shot back after being shot at We're not charged.

02:42:11.000 I fully understand why the one officer that shot more recklessly has been charged and he's looking at five years.

02:42:17.000 I fully understand why Kenneth Walker went, I don't care if you're knocking or not, I don't have to answer my door.

02:42:23.000 If you bust into my house, I'm going to be able to defend my house.

02:42:26.000 I fully understand that.

02:42:27.000 The government of that city understands that too.

02:42:29.000 That's why they dropped the charges against him.

02:42:32.000 The Breonna Taylor's family accepted a civil deal.

02:42:37.000 I don't know what the numbers are.

02:42:38.000 12 million.

02:42:39.000 12 million.

02:42:41.000 So there was a damage.

02:42:42.000 They felt that that was enough for that death.

02:42:45.000 But couldn't that have been political?

02:42:46.000 They got riots, man.

02:42:48.000 It could have been.

02:42:48.000 So they're like, just give them money, we gotta do something.

02:42:51.000 Maybe, but you're supposed to because that's a financial obligation to someone whose life has been taken.

02:42:57.000 And I think they got off cheap at 12 million dollars.

02:43:00.000 Yeah.

02:43:02.000 So those layers of objectivity is the thing that most people have a difficult time taking in because if you've positioned yourself as hardline, I can tell you where I agree and disagree with Colin Kaepernick.

02:43:16.000 I can tell you where I agree and disagree with President Trump.

02:43:20.000 None of this is personal to me.

02:43:21.000 This is all business.

02:43:22.000 We are in a war, an ideological war for the Republic.

02:43:27.000 That is what's happening right now.

02:43:29.000 And if I'm going to be emotional in the middle of a war, like I said earlier, that's how you get your head blown off.

02:43:34.000 And I don't want to do that.

02:43:35.000 We have to make sure that we're Being the example of balance.

02:43:40.000 Being the example of fair and balanced.

02:43:42.000 Being the example of objectivity.

02:43:45.000 Being the example of setting culture that will then drive politics.

02:43:49.000 So when someone from the right can say to someone from the left, yo, that makes sense.

02:43:54.000 Where Ron or Rand Paul can present things that make sense and both parties go, that makes sense.

02:43:59.000 Where Thomas Massey can say, hey guys, my one job as this public servant is to publicly vote on things.

02:44:07.000 I do not want to not vote on the largest wealth transfer in American history.

02:44:13.000 That's the, you have one job.

02:44:15.000 That's your job.

02:44:16.000 I gotta do that job.

02:44:17.000 You familiar with Eric July?

02:44:18.000 That's my homie.

02:44:19.000 Eric A. says Eric July would be perfect.

02:44:22.000 Eric July and me agree on a ton of the stuff.

02:44:25.000 Would you disagree on things?

02:44:26.000 I don't, I have, I don't, I have yet to figure, we did a lot, me, him, and Larry Sharp did a great interview.

02:44:32.000 It was about an hour or two long.

02:44:35.000 I don't know where we've agreed.

02:44:37.000 I mean, disagreed.

02:44:39.000 I'm trying to find areas where I've disagreed with Eric July.

02:44:43.000 He's a Cowboys fan.

02:44:45.000 Is that it?

02:44:45.000 Like, that's it.

02:44:46.000 That's how it begins.

02:44:47.000 That's it.

02:44:47.000 That's how it starts.

02:44:48.000 Then you got to find the other stuff that you disagree with.

02:44:51.000 Yeah, Eric July, that's the homie. 1.00

02:44:52.000 And I've tried to find areas where I'm like, man, this guy's not making sense.

02:44:57.000 I haven't found any yet.

02:44:58.000 You know what I mean?

02:45:01.000 I just got a text.

02:45:05.000 I'm trying to make sure it's not breaking news.

02:45:07.000 Alright, so I'll tell you what.

02:45:08.000 We've gone 45 minutes over.

02:45:10.000 This is good.

02:45:11.000 This is fun.

02:45:12.000 I love it.

02:45:12.000 Why don't we set up something and these people who want to challenge things you're saying... I'm down.

02:45:17.000 For real, man.

02:45:18.000 If you guys, the people in the chat... They want to show up.

02:45:21.000 They'll show up, and it'll be epic.

02:45:23.000 We'll make it happen, dude.

02:45:24.000 You guys are scary.

02:45:26.000 Oh snap! 0.76

02:45:27.000 You're gonna get him all angry again.

02:45:29.000 No, no, we'll do it, we'll do it.

02:45:30.000 So, I guess we gotta figure out who, you know, look, like I said, most people are enjoying, you know, they're chilling.

02:45:37.000 But the people who feel like you're not representing their ideas properly or you're getting things wrong, let's set it up.

02:45:43.000 Let's have that challenge, that conversation.

02:45:45.000 We'll be betting.

02:45:47.000 I don't know.

02:45:48.000 Integrity.

02:45:48.000 What are we betting?

02:45:49.000 I got an idea.

02:45:50.000 What if...

02:45:55.000 We do a poll afterwards, and all the Super Chat money goes to the charity of choice for whoever is deemed to be the winner.

02:46:01.000 I love that.

02:46:01.000 We could do something like that, it'd be cool.

02:46:03.000 I love that.

02:46:03.000 So then we get like, you know, two dudes, you guys will go at it, we'll, I'll try to, I don't know if I can moderate, I'll do my best.

02:46:10.000 Try to figure it out.

02:46:11.000 And then we'll have some fact checking.

02:46:12.000 I love it.

02:46:13.000 And then, for the most part, like, you know, you and whoever else do the thing, all that Super Chat money.

02:46:17.000 Yes.

02:46:18.000 And we'll do comments and stuff.

02:46:20.000 You guys will each pick a charity and then boom.

02:46:21.000 I love it.

02:46:22.000 I love that.

02:46:22.000 I'm down.

02:46:23.000 I'm in for it.

02:46:24.000 We'll start turning the wheels on this.

02:46:26.000 No guarantees.

02:46:28.000 We've had people cancel on us and I'm like, guess who we're gonna have next, you know, tomorrow and then they don't show up.

02:46:33.000 See?

02:46:33.000 But we'll get the gears turning, man.

02:46:35.000 When we set it up in my schedule, if it's ahead of time, I'll secure that date and I don't flake.

02:46:41.000 It'll be a really fun mental battle between people and ideas.

02:46:47.000 And I've been kind of cooped up in the house for a few months, so coming out to get a win is a great thing.

02:46:53.000 Coming out to get a victory is always a good thing.

02:46:55.000 You see, you're doing the MMA guys will get all big and they'll get their ego up and they'll be like, I'm gonna win.

02:47:02.000 You gotta make sure you put the... I challenge myself to do that because when you do that, everybody wants to see you fall.

02:47:11.000 Exactly.

02:47:12.000 So people right now are probably like, I want to see this guy get crushed in a debate.

02:47:16.000 And knowing that is what makes me work harder.

02:47:18.000 There you go.

02:47:19.000 Your motivation.

02:47:20.000 Absolutely.

02:47:20.000 Yeah, man.

02:47:21.000 Absolutely.

02:47:22.000 So a ton of people are super stoked now.

02:47:25.000 And they're like, this is awesome, let's do it.

02:47:27.000 Because I think even some of the people who are angrier are like, yes, we're going to get this guy.

02:47:31.000 It'll be fun.

02:47:32.000 But we did go 47 minutes over, so I think we should wrap up, because I still have to work in the morning and everything.

02:47:38.000 But Maj, dude, thanks for hanging out. 0.99

02:47:40.000 It's been fun, man.

02:47:41.000 Thank you for having me, for sure.

02:47:42.000 Your Twitter is at Maj2Ray.

02:47:44.000 At Maj2Ray. 0.79

02:47:45.000 And is it cool if I do a shameless plug?

02:47:47.000 Of course, do it.

02:47:48.000 So guys, outside of if you agree with me or disagree with me on some of these issues, We all, generally, if you don't agree with this, I don't really know what to say for you.

02:47:57.000 Urban America really, really needs more conflict resolution, more political education, and more firearms safety training.

02:48:06.000 Safe and responsible handling.

02:48:07.000 That's what we do at Black Guns Matter.

02:48:09.000 This entire tour has been funded by the people.

02:48:14.000 If you agree, if you disagree, we all can say that we need safer communities and we need guys and women that have the ability to defend themselves from weirdos, rapists, and all that other type of stuff.

02:48:26.000 So our efforts is we do have a GoFundMe page.

02:48:29.000 It's GoFundMe.com forward slash Black Guns Matter. 0.99

02:48:32.000 Every single penny has been transparent.

02:48:35.000 Every single penny has went to, in 2018 I think we did like 50 cities.

02:48:41.000 We got an RV now so we can stay in cities like Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans.

02:48:45.000 We can stay there longer.

02:48:46.000 St.

02:48:46.000 Louis.

02:48:47.000 Because sometimes you can't just do a Chicago in one or two days.

02:48:51.000 We have conflict resolution kits.

02:48:53.000 We show people how to get firearms lawfully.

02:48:56.000 We link them up with attorneys.

02:48:59.000 Again, we deal with conflict resolution. 1.00

02:49:00.000 I can't just teach you how to get a gun, but then you're a psychopath.

02:49:05.000 So we deal with de-escalation, conflict resolution, things like that.

02:49:08.000 But again, guys, this is all in good fun.

02:49:10.000 Me even challenging you guys.

02:49:12.000 I love the fact that you've challenged and disagreed.

02:49:14.000 That's how we move forward.

02:49:16.000 If you can, if you agree with that, if you got 20 bucks, if you a really, really rich dude and wanna just knock out the rest of the million dollar goal, donate 600 and some odd thousand dollars, great, just don't, do it.

02:49:26.000 If you got six bucks, if you got 20 bucks, I don't care, man.

02:49:29.000 This type of information, that part should not be political.

02:49:32.000 That part should be people having the constitutional and human right to defend themselves from weirdos.

02:49:39.000 So, you know, hopefully you guys have been engaged.

02:49:41.000 Gofundme.com forward slash Black Guns Matter. 0.55

02:49:43.000 Right on, man.

02:49:44.000 Dude, thanks for hanging out.

02:49:45.000 You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler, at TimCast, of course.

02:49:47.000 You can check out YouTube.com slash TimCast.

02:49:50.000 YouTube.com slash TimCast News, my other channels I put up kind of all throughout the day.

02:49:54.000 And of course, we got Ian who's been chilling.

02:49:56.000 What up, Ian?

02:49:57.000 Yeah, Ian Crossland.

02:49:58.000 Follow me on Twitter and Instagram and on Twitch.tv because sometimes I stream games.

02:50:03.000 And we are going to get the correct microphone.

02:50:05.000 You know what's crazy is because of the COVID supply chain disruption, we couldn't get the mic.

02:50:10.000 So Lydia's using this very nice shotgun mic. 1.00

02:50:13.000 But you can follow Lydia at Sour Patch Lyds, Sour Patch L-Y-D-S.

02:50:17.000 And we'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:50:20.000 live.

02:50:21.000 I think the internet worked.

02:50:23.000 We had no problems.

02:50:24.000 This is great, dude.

02:50:25.000 This is the right day.

02:50:27.000 And you know what?

02:50:28.000 To everybody in the chat who had a good time and super chatted, really, really do appreciate it.

02:50:32.000 And everyone who disagreed, let me know what you want to see so we could do a better job.

02:50:37.000 I want to hear your criticism and I want to make sure that we're doing a show that actually gets to the core of these issues and doesn't leave anybody hanging feeling like they're not getting the right information or they're not being heard.

02:50:47.000 And definitely, if I'm getting things wrong, I corrected myself like three times on the Brandon Taylor thing.

02:50:51.000 We got wrong last night.

02:50:52.000 That's great.

02:50:52.000 I did it like three segments today.

02:50:53.000 I was like, I was wrong, I was wrong, I was wrong.

02:50:54.000 So I'm definitely trying, man.

02:50:56.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out.

02:50:57.000 We'll be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:50:58.000 live, and we'll have clips up throughout the day on the channel.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 23, 2020

Timcast IRL - Civil Unrest ERUPTS After Jury Refuses To Indict Cops In Breonna Taylor Death

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