Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Cocaine Found In White House, Biden LAUGHS It Off w-Matt Braynard

00:00:00.000 We are back from the 4th of July holiday and you know I made a mistake on Friday I said

00:00:24.000 we were going to be back on Monday and then immediately was corrected after the show ended

00:00:27.000 And I was like, oh crap.

00:00:29.000 You know what the thing is?

00:00:30.000 You will not be able to get guests on July 3rd or 4th because nobody's gonna want to travel right before the 4th and nobody wants to do a late night show on the 4th when there's fireworks going off and people have gotten out of work and there's burgers.

00:00:43.000 So I was just like, let's just take the opportunity and celebrate America.

00:00:48.000 But there's a lot of news.

00:00:49.000 So they found cocaine at the White House in the West Wing, where the Oval Office is.

00:00:53.000 Joe Biden's laughing about it.

00:00:55.000 And I'm just, look, they're trying to make it seem like it might have been a tourist or something.

00:01:00.000 You're not getting cocaine at the White House past security if you're just a tourist.

00:01:04.000 So, of course, everybody's suggesting maybe Hunter Biden.

00:01:07.000 Maybe, maybe.

00:01:07.000 I honestly think it's probably somebody with high enough clearance where they're not being stopped by security, but we'll talk about this.

00:01:15.000 We'll get into that news.

00:01:17.000 We've got some news from the past week.

00:01:19.000 Ron DeSantis, when he did that, when the DeSantis campaign posted that ad, About Trump being pro-LGBT or whatever.

00:01:25.000 DeSantis is actually getting a lot of flack for this in Peaky Blinders.

00:01:28.000 That's what it's called, right?

00:01:29.000 Peaky Blinders?

00:01:30.000 Yeah, it's the show.

00:01:31.000 They've come out and publicly denounced the DeSantis campaign over this ad.

00:01:36.000 DeSantis' campaign didn't even make, they just reposted.

00:01:39.000 But I think this one's particularly interesting.

00:01:40.000 And then we've got a bunch of other news.

00:01:42.000 But one big story.

00:01:43.000 A couple.

00:01:44.000 There's a Bud Light bottling plant is shutting down.

00:01:47.000 Two plants, actually.

00:01:49.000 645 employees are being laid off because Bud Light sales have tanked so much, they can't handle the volume anymore.

00:01:55.000 So, wow.

00:01:56.000 And we definitely gotta talk about Sound of Freedom.

00:01:59.000 If you guys haven't seen it, I really do recommend it.

00:02:01.000 It's an amazing movie.

00:02:02.000 It's about trafficking. 0.80

00:02:03.000 Jim Caviezel.

00:02:04.000 We went and saw it last night, so we'll talk about that.

00:02:06.000 And it's rivaling Indiana Jones.

00:02:09.000 It was released on a Tuesday, not for the weekend, but for Tuesday.

00:02:14.000 Sound of Freedom is just short of Indiana Jones' take.

00:02:17.000 So that's actually quite amazing.

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00:03:24.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Matt Brainerd.

00:03:27.000 Glad to be back.

00:03:27.000 Thanks for having me, Tim.

00:03:29.000 Absolutely.

00:03:30.000 Who are you?

00:03:30.000 What do you do?

00:03:31.000 Oh, I'm just a mere community organizer and civil rights organizer fighting for a good fight for the January 6th prisoners fighting to get election integrity restored in the country and on the side helping out campaigns here and there.

00:03:43.000 Right on.

00:03:44.000 We got Phil LaBonte hanging out.

00:03:46.000 Hello, everyone.

00:03:46.000 I am Phil LaBonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist, and counter-revolutionary.

00:03:51.000 I swear that was not my cocaine at the White House, Serge.

00:03:54.000 Ian, you don't do cocaine.

00:03:56.000 Sorry.

00:03:56.000 Hi, Ian Crossland, and I do not do cocaine.

00:04:00.000 I have done cocaine in the past, I will admit, but I do not do that stuff anymore.

00:04:03.000 I imagine you're a mushrooms guy.

00:04:04.000 Way better.

00:04:06.000 I think if you do it in the right dosage.

00:04:07.000 It's really, when you talk about drugs, you want to talk about dosage.

00:04:09.000 Isn't it Nixon that created this whole drugs thing and put them all into this basket of, like, forever chemical liquids?

00:04:14.000 Crocodile works great if you microdose it.

00:04:18.000 None of that stuff.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, none of that.

00:04:21.000 It's really sad to see, like, all over West Virginia they have these, like, emergency treatment things for the drugs and how it's really damaged everybody.

00:04:28.000 Crocodile and people Let's talk about Hunter Biden's problem.

00:04:33.000 Yeah, because other chemicals, they call them drugs and they're nowhere near as dangerous.

00:04:38.000 So let's just move on.

00:04:39.000 When I heard this story, my mind immediately went to the disparity of justice in this country.

00:04:44.000 How many people are sitting in prison right now because the exact same amount of cocaine was found somewhere near them in their car, in their home, and when it comes to the White House?

00:04:53.000 Oh, they're just laughing about it.

00:04:54.000 They're making jokes.

00:04:55.000 There's a video that circulates of Joe Biden being like, if they're found within this much crack, prison!

00:05:02.000 And it's like the same amount and then it shows Hunter with like rocks on it.

00:05:04.000 We'll get it in the news!

00:05:05.000 Yeah, let's introduce our man over here to the right.

00:05:07.000 Yeah, I'm just laughing about that.

00:05:09.000 It was pretty funny.

00:05:10.000 It's good news.

00:05:10.000 And like I said, Trump's White House had Coke all over the place, you know, pretty openly.

00:05:15.000 It's not Diet Coke though, it's not the same thing.

00:05:18.000 Anyways, let's get to it.

00:05:19.000 Here's the first story.

00:05:20.000 We got it from TimCast.com.

00:05:22.000 Cocaine found in the White House prompts evacuation.

00:05:26.000 If it's the old executive office building, it's likely staff, tweeted Ari Fleischer.

00:05:29.000 If it's the mansion, it's likely Hunter.

00:05:32.000 This is amazing.

00:05:32.000 The White House was evacuated around 8.45 p.m.

00:05:35.000 on July 3rd after the substance was discovered by members of the Secret Service Uniformed Division during a routine patrol of the building.

00:05:41.000 The item was sent for further evaluation.

00:05:43.000 In an investigation into the cause and manner of how it entered the White House is pending, the Secret Service said in a subsequent statement per NPR, the agency will review surveillance footage and visitor logs as part of its investigation.

00:05:55.000 The location of where the cocaine was discovered has become a point of controversy.

00:05:59.000 Initial reports claimed the drugs were discovered in the ground floor library of the presidential residence.

00:06:04.000 The Washington Post quoted a dispatch from DC's Department of Hazardous Materials team in which a firefighter stated, we have a yellow bar saying cocaine hydrochloride.

00:06:13.000 Yeah, I saw this story over the weekend.

00:06:15.000 It was like hazmat situation.

00:06:16.000 And I can remember we were talking to but they're like, oh, that sounds like something's actually happening.

00:06:21.000 Turns out it was cocaine.

00:06:22.000 And now they're saying it was in the West Wing.

00:06:24.000 So it's kind of like either way, no matter where it was.

00:06:27.000 Look, the highest probability is Hunter Biden.

00:06:30.000 Hands down, no question.

00:06:32.000 And they've said cocaine, but I'm wondering, could it have been crack or something?

00:06:37.000 You know, the Timcast article from Hannah Clare mentions his crack cocaine addiction.

00:06:41.000 We have an update on the story.

00:06:42.000 Biden laughs off White House cocaine scandal and refuses to answer reporters' questions while Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre suggests drugs found in West Wing belong to a visitor.

00:06:52.000 I'm sure they did.

00:06:55.000 This isn't the first time someone's claimed to have done drugs in the White House.

00:06:58.000 I think Willie Nelson and Snoop Dogg claimed they did.

00:07:00.000 I was talking about this earlier.

00:07:02.000 And I was thinking about it, and I could be wrong, but my view of this whole thing is the Founding Fathers probably did a ton of drugs in the White House.

00:07:11.000 Then there was probably a period from like the early 1900s to like the 70s where there were no drugs in the White House.

00:07:17.000 And then you started getting probably a lot more drugs in the White House after that.

00:07:21.000 Oh, John Kennedy, I think.

00:07:23.000 I bet he partied hard.

00:07:25.000 He would have Marilyn Monroe over, didn't he?

00:07:26.000 That's true, and she did a ton of drugs. 1.00

00:07:29.000 You know, I don't know because I actually had a good friend of mine who worked with me on the Trump campaign in 16.

00:07:34.000 She worked very, very hard.

00:07:35.000 And because of that, she earned a White House job under President Trump.

00:07:40.000 However, she tested positive for smoking weed, and that was yanked. 0.58

00:07:45.000 No way.

00:07:45.000 Not getting in here.

00:07:47.000 I don't know what the standards are for this White House, but I know historically, that has not been tolerated.

00:07:53.000 Dude, if someone came to me and said, Bill Clinton did not do drugs in the White House, I would bust out laughing.

00:08:01.000 I'm sorry.

00:08:02.000 I just feel different, I guess, back then.

00:08:05.000 I imagine as president, yeah, but to your point, if you're going to be in the Oval Office and stuff like that, even if you're some kind of clerk or something like that, you have to have some kind of clearance.

00:08:17.000 And if you have any kind of drug history, or if you lie on the polygraph test, then you can't get a clearance.

00:08:25.000 So it makes sense that there would be, you know, issues with, like, your average person.

00:08:31.000 If you're someone higher up, like if you're a chief of staff, or if you're the president, or if you're, you know, someone like that, I imagine you could probably get the Secret Service to overlook or ignore or something like that.

00:08:43.000 But if it's just your average Like one of the lower tier people that actually has to work for the president or in the office.

00:08:51.000 I imagine they're getting tested, you know, because they have to have clearance.

00:08:54.000 It's got to be somebody who doesn't have to go through security.

00:08:57.000 Yeah.

00:08:58.000 Or someone that has enough clout where if they go through security, security can't be like, yo, you know, weird.

00:09:04.000 Yeah, because not only could Secret Service overlook it, they might also cover it up.

00:09:09.000 Be like, hey, terrorism, everyone, look out!

00:09:11.000 We gotta mask up!

00:09:12.000 This could be dangerous!

00:09:13.000 Like, uh, really?

00:09:15.000 It's cocaine.

00:09:16.000 Nobody who has to go through security is bringing cocaine into the White House.

00:09:21.000 I just... and what level of staff member has to go through security and would be like,

00:09:27.000 I've got clout and I have to go to security and they're going to find out I have this but they

00:09:31.000 can't do anything? No way. I bet there's a lot more than we realize. Just dudes that are addicted

00:09:35.000 and they're like, I'm not doing another day without it kind of mentality. How does surveillance not

00:09:43.000 Because the Discord leaker of all those secrets, they found him real fast.

00:09:48.000 But for some reason they can't immediately figure out who dropped it in a certain room.

00:09:53.000 There's parts of the White House that are not monitored.

00:09:55.000 The story is, this is where tourists are allowed.

00:09:57.000 So there are parts of the White House where a tourist can go, And is not monitored.

00:10:02.000 Does anyone really buy that?

00:10:03.000 Yeah, no way.

00:10:05.000 I think they know.

00:10:05.000 I'm pretty confident they know exactly whose that belongs to.

00:10:09.000 Good luck figuring out.

00:10:10.000 And I'm going to say this.

00:10:14.000 They have surveillance all over that building.

00:10:17.000 The idea that they do not is insane.

00:10:19.000 We know they do.

00:10:19.000 They have men on the roof.

00:10:21.000 When you go and visit the White House, you can see there's guys up there.

00:10:24.000 They're watching you.

00:10:25.000 And they're armed.

00:10:26.000 And they've got sniper rifles.

00:10:27.000 Yes, they do.

00:10:28.000 So, if you're going to try and tell me they don't have surveillance in that building, that is untrue.

00:10:33.000 So I'm going to say this.

00:10:35.000 That suggests they know who did it, are covering it up, therefore it was Hunter Biden.

00:10:43.000 I mean to say this, let's clarify.

00:10:45.000 I'm not saying I really believe it was Hunter, I don't know.

00:10:48.000 I'm just saying, until they actually come out and say whose it was, I am just going to say it was Hunter because, you know, Occam's razor.

00:10:58.000 You got a crack addict, drug addict guy, with access to the White House, to the degree he will not be stopped by security, they know who he is, the President's son, as probably his.

00:11:08.000 You know, whether it's Hunter Biden or somebody else, what we do know for a fact is there's two tiers of justice.

00:11:13.000 Just like Hunter Biden got treated very gently with his prosecution for his crimes that other people are suffering badly for, losing their families in jail for.

00:11:23.000 Possession of cocaine in a place like that.

00:11:27.000 Anybody else, even in your house, in your car, you park your car next to the White House and they find that in you, in your car, you are, you're in a world of pain, but the White House, one of the protected people, two-tiered justice, we're just gonna laugh it off.

00:11:38.000 Yep.

00:11:39.000 Jack Posobiec said he thought there's actually three tiered justices, and this is a little bit of an aside, but that there's the protected class, there's the plebs, the regular people, like everyone else, you know, and then there's the persecuted class, which is like a unique class, like Julian Assange, or at the moment Donald Trump.

00:11:54.000 Or Jay Sixers.

00:11:55.000 Exactly.

00:11:55.000 I guess so, yeah.

00:11:57.000 Where it's like, it doesn't really matter what you've done, they wanna, it's just, it's personal, kind of class of people.

00:12:03.000 There's the persecuted, the protected, and then the we don't care.

00:12:07.000 Though we don't care, people can get scooped up and pushed around sometimes, and sometimes they get ignored.

00:12:12.000 There might be someone who committed a crime, and they're like, oh, I don't know about this, whatever.

00:12:15.000 Then you have the protected, the political elites and their cronies and their followers and worshippers.

00:12:21.000 And then you, of course, have the persecuted, the people like the woman in Alaska whose home was raided because she looked like a woman who went in the Capitol building.

00:12:28.000 That's crazy.

00:12:29.000 You know, I actually went to the D.C.

00:12:31.000 Gulag.

00:12:31.000 I was allowed in to visit a prisoner.

00:12:33.000 And just the fact, just going in was completely dehumanizing.

00:12:36.000 If you ever want to come in, I can get you in, too.

00:12:39.000 But I went there to meet a guy named William Cressman.

00:12:41.000 This is a great example of what Jack was talking about.

00:12:44.000 This guy has not been charged with any violence.

00:12:47.000 He's a military veteran.

00:12:48.000 He's not been charged with conspiracy or organizing anything.

00:12:50.000 He's just a guy who showed up.

00:12:52.000 He was arrested in January 2021.

00:12:53.000 He still doesn't have a trial date.

00:12:57.000 Wow.

00:12:58.000 And they have denied him his psychiatric medicine.

00:13:02.000 They have trashed, he's tried to keep journals and they just come through and throw all his papers away.

00:13:07.000 He's not been given, he has two daughters that he had not seen for all for those two years plus two young daughters and he was finally going to get to see them the week after I was in to visit him and that is just whatever the wildest thing in the world they want to accuse him of that they might even charge him with he would have already had time served but they're keeping him in there in dire conditions still not a trial date military veteran not charged with any violence because they can't because because not of what he did but because of what he believed and that's a great example of what Jack Posobiec is talking about

00:13:41.000 Is this the indefinite detention because of the clause and, like, what, the NDAA, I think?

00:13:45.000 No, it's worse.

00:13:46.000 This is unjustified constitutional violations.

00:13:50.000 Speedy trial, man.

00:13:51.000 It's right there.

00:13:53.000 Where are we at?

00:13:54.000 Is someone going to file a lawsuit or something to get some movement on this?

00:13:57.000 You know, he's been doing his best.

00:13:58.000 His lawyer's been doing his best, but they just keep blowing... Like I said, not even a trial date.

00:14:03.000 Not even bail.

00:14:04.000 He's a clean record.

00:14:05.000 He's a military veteran.

00:14:06.000 He fought for this country overseas.

00:14:08.000 And you know, the only thing that I've been... Look, I've been doing a lot of things on this field.

00:14:12.000 The last thing we have decided is that the only person who's really going to be able to make an effect on this is the next president.

00:14:19.000 So we've launched a project called the J6 Question. 0.66

00:14:22.000 We're paying $1,000 to anybody who will ask one of our presidential candidates what they're going to do for the J6 prisoners. 0.90

00:14:28.000 And I'm very happy to say that today we actually cut our first check for $1,000.

00:14:31.000 We announced the project two weeks ago.

00:14:33.000 Somebody asked Asia Hutchinson. 1.00

00:14:35.000 Got it on video.

00:14:36.000 We've been presenting it.

00:14:37.000 So the only person who can really fix this is the next president.

00:14:41.000 So we're going to get them on the record now so voters can be informed going to the ballot box in terms of how these people are going to handle what I believe is the greatest civil rights violation of our day.

00:14:51.000 How many people are in prison right now from January 6th?

00:14:54.000 We've got 141.

00:14:56.000 In fact, there were 42 people just arrested last month, and the DOJ has plans for another thousand to be arrested.

00:15:01.000 There are a lot of them that are still in jail without a trial date, without any opportunity for bail, and they're just hanging out there.

00:15:09.000 How many people have been let go or have been released?

00:15:12.000 Quite a few, quite a few hundred.

00:15:14.000 The thing is, and this is the most disgusting part of it to me, is that the Department of Justice's attitude is that you might be able to beat the charges but you can't beat the ride and you can't afford it.

00:15:24.000 So a lot of people are just taking a plea agreement to just get out of it even though they're not guilty.

00:15:28.000 And in fact, I really have to admire William Cressman because he was offered a plea agreement.

00:15:33.000 He had to agree to the two lesser charges and he had to condemn President Trump.

00:15:33.000 He had to do two things.

00:15:37.000 and say that President Trump was the one that made him do it.

00:15:40.000 And he said, that's just not true.

00:15:41.000 And I'm not going to admit to something that isn't true.

00:15:43.000 So he has put himself through this like a martyr.

00:15:46.000 And I cannot wait for the day that he gets out and that he can tell his story publicly.

00:15:50.000 Because that was the ask.

00:15:52.000 You have to condemn President Trump.

00:15:54.000 And you have to plead to these other charges.

00:15:57.000 I'm not guilty of any of it.

00:15:58.000 Dude, that's that like that Chinese version. 1.00

00:16:00.000 I don't want to blame the Chinese, but that weird like communism. 0.96

00:16:03.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 What's that that tactic where they make you they come in and make you say things that you know aren't true to break you and then they're like re-education kind of mentality.

00:16:13.000 I've never heard of that in the United States before.

00:16:15.000 This is the first time.

00:16:15.000 Maybe they did to the Japanese internment prisoners during World War II.

00:16:19.000 Well, what they want to do is they're using these people as pawns in hopes that they turn on President Trump.

00:16:23.000 Because if they say, oh, I did it because President Trump told me, that makes it easier for them, the prosecution, to go after President Trump and say, hey, we got all these people telling them that you did this because... Haven't people already done that, though?

00:16:33.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 There are a handful of people who are like, oh, it was Trump's fault.

00:16:36.000 But remember, that's under severe duress, right?

00:16:39.000 Because they're getting a deal because of it.

00:16:41.000 A lot of people think that Trump hasn't done enough to help those people.

00:16:44.000 What could he do?

00:16:45.000 I don't know.

00:16:46.000 Do you get that vibe?

00:16:47.000 What do you think he could do?

00:16:48.000 I don't know what he's done behind the scenes, but what I do know is the only person who can really do anything is the next president.

00:16:55.000 And that's the only person who's got any ability to move this.

00:16:58.000 And look, my take on it is that they should be given blanket pardons, especially because the vast majority of these people have not been charged with violence.

00:17:05.000 You think it's the next president, so for two years these people are just screwed like Biden?

00:17:10.000 Do you think there's any hope?

00:17:11.000 Well, a little less than two years, like a year and a half.

00:17:13.000 Is that what you told the guy when you went in?

00:17:15.000 What was the guy's name again?

00:17:17.000 William Cressman.

00:17:17.000 And look, we have a J6 database at lookaheadamerica.org.

00:17:24.000 We have the most comprehensive database of everybody that's been charged, and it tells you whether they're arrested or anything like that.

00:17:30.000 So if you want to help William Cressman, you can look him up there and send his attorneys some money on his GiveSendGo.

00:17:36.000 The good thing is the public's now on our side because the plurality of people agree that these people are in fact political prisoners.

00:17:45.000 But the Biden administration does not care.

00:17:48.000 And the FBI who are persecuting these people and the DOJ, they do not care because there's no accountability.

00:17:53.000 There's nothing you can do to stop them other than make an informed decision about the next president.

00:18:00.000 People love it when I say the magic words, civil war. 0.87

00:18:04.000 But let's think about where we're at.

00:18:06.000 At the very least, it may be a Bleeding Kansas type phase.

00:18:11.000 You know, before... and maybe I'm wrong.

00:18:15.000 In the 1820s, there was talk of civil war over the issue of slavery, economics, and the things around this.

00:18:21.000 And it wasn't until 40 some odd years later that the war actually broke out.

00:18:24.000 But we're at a point where federal law enforcement Has... I don't think detained is even the right word.

00:18:31.000 Renditioned?

00:18:33.000 Without charge or trial?

00:18:33.000 People?

00:18:35.000 That's it.

00:18:37.000 The Constitution is Swiss cheese.

00:18:39.000 The idea that the DOJ can take people and hold them now more than two years later, often in solitary, which is torture, without charge or trial.

00:18:51.000 Come on.

00:18:51.000 It's insane.

00:18:52.000 You know, Iran only held our hostages for 444 days.

00:18:56.000 These people have been in over for 800, still waiting on a trial date.

00:18:59.000 My guess is that the administration feels like if they're all let out and pardoned that Trump, that they think Trump will actually create a revolution and they think that those people will be the foot soldiers. 0.99

00:19:10.000 And that's like such a dumb... I think it's just intimidating other people. 0.98

00:19:15.000 I really think that the reason that the people that are still in prison for the J6 riot and stuff is just because they want the rest of America to be like, Well, you know, they're not going to observe or respect your rights.

00:19:32.000 They're going to hold you in violation of the Fifth Amendment, your right to a speedy trial and stuff.

00:19:39.000 They're just going to Run roughshod over the constitution.

00:19:44.000 If the federal government feels it's acceptable to kill a US citizen because they have a suspicion that they're a terrorist or because they don't like some of the things that they were saying, then I don't think that it's ridiculous to think that the government wants to use its power to intimidate other Americans, you know?

00:20:06.000 Yeah, I fully agree with that, man.

00:20:09.000 They don't want anyone to riot.

00:20:10.000 They don't want anyone to even protest at the White House.

00:20:12.000 I don't think they want anyone near it.

00:20:14.000 I don't know about anyone.

00:20:15.000 They just don't want the right to.

00:20:16.000 Because if it was the left, they would let by.

00:20:19.000 If it was Antifa, I mean, there's history.

00:20:22.000 There is a past history demonstrably that they will not arrest.

00:20:27.000 People on the left in the same manner and with the same vigor and with the same malice that they arrest people on the right.

00:20:34.000 There were people rioting all over Washington, D.C.

00:20:38.000 Was it the 29th of May of 2000 or whatever?

00:20:39.000 Or 2020?

00:20:39.000 Was it May 29th, I think?

00:20:41.000 or 2020, what was the when they- It was May 29th, I think.

00:20:41.000 I think 29th, whatever.

00:20:45.000 I think 29th, whatever.

00:20:46.000 529.

00:20:47.000 But the people- I talk about this a lot.

00:20:50.000 The reason why Blackstone's formulation was so important, the reason why we have the right to a speedy trial,

00:20:56.000 innocent until proven guilty, it's the founding fathers believed that

00:21:00.000 if people could be held criminally in prison or jail, even if they were innocent,

00:21:08.000 there would be no incentive to be a good citizen if at any point you could be arrested.

00:21:12.000 This is why it's better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

00:21:16.000 Because if people believe, if I'm truly a good person, the system will protect me, now we can see the inversion of that.

00:21:25.000 They don't care, but here's the important point.

00:21:29.000 If people start to believe, and unfortunately it's true, that no matter what you do, The Biden administration, the cult, these evil depraved people are going to use the weight of force against you.

00:21:41.000 There is no incentive to negotiate.

00:21:43.000 The point is, this is the behavior that, like any other domino collapse, leads to governmental collapse.

00:21:51.000 You can see it in all these other countries.

00:21:53.000 What happens in Syria?

00:21:55.000 You get protesters.

00:21:57.000 The Assad regime, whatever you want to call it, says, we are going to stop these people. 0.78

00:22:04.000 Creating a backlash.

00:22:05.000 Occupy Wall Street, best example.

00:22:08.000 About a thousand, two thousand people are marching down the street.

00:22:10.000 Anthony Bologna, the cop, walks up to three random women who were not a part of the march and pepper sprays them because they were yelling.

00:22:18.000 The video goes viral.

00:22:20.000 The fastest viral video in history at that point.

00:22:22.000 1.2 million views in less than a day, in like 12 hours.

00:22:26.000 Igniting Occupy Wall Street across the country.

00:22:29.000 When law enforcement uses heavy-handed tactics, it is a spark on kindling.

00:22:34.000 And what scares me about what we're seeing with the Biden administration and the J6ers is that it's sending a message to people not to be scared of them, but that they are illegitimate. 0.99

00:22:42.000 They will not follow the rule of law.

00:22:44.000 They will not give you a fair trial.

00:22:45.000 Therefore, there is no system by which you are involved.

00:22:49.000 It is no different than a group of muggers beating you mercilessly in the street.

00:22:53.000 There's no rhyme or reason other than they want to assert power over you.

00:22:56.000 This is one more domino falling over towards a potential civil war in this country. 0.93

00:23:02.000 Yeah, you know, this is why I use the word dumb when I talk about these tactics of like, 0.78

00:23:05.000 they're afraid these people will become Trump's foot soldiers if they're all let out and pardoned. 0.87

00:23:09.000 The back, the problem is you're creating the problem that you're afraid of by

00:23:14.000 incarcerating them against their without a trial or without even a charge because it's

00:23:18.000 radicalizing them in prison. And when they come out, their families will remember and

00:23:22.000 their friends will remember and you're radicalizing an entire population and an entire

00:23:27.000 50 years worth of people by violating their constitutional rights.

00:23:31.000 You need to trust the populace.

00:23:33.000 Maybe being in the government is not a realm of trust.

00:23:36.000 You're afraid and you're always on the defensive perhaps.

00:23:40.000 That's part of why I don't run in that way.

00:23:41.000 History shows that there's It's a silver lining to this because how many of the great leaders who've done wonderful things for their country at some point in their early life were political prisoners?

00:23:52.000 Like Mandela or Martin Luther King or in India Veer Savarkar. 0.62

00:23:56.000 That's a pattern throughout history of great positive revolutionary leaders at some point crossed a civil disobedience line or crossed the administration and and ended up in prison and that you can see that in countries all over the world.

00:24:10.000 I don't think we're quite at civil war yet and I'm gonna because here's the real here's the problem as I see it as a community organizer somebody that does voter registration and voter turnout in the Georgia Senate runoff.

00:24:23.000 In the urban counties, the progressive urban counties, turnout was in the mid-80s.

00:24:30.000 In the rural counties, where I think at least as many voters are, turnout was in the mid-50s.

00:24:36.000 And there you have the outcome of the election.

00:24:38.000 If turnout in those rural counties was anywhere close to the urban areas, Those people would have a louder voice, but unfortunately they do not turn out, they're not part of the ballot harvesting machine, they're not part of the voting culture, and that's where I'm putting my effort to try to change.

00:24:53.000 I wouldn't do too well in a civil war, I've got terrible vision, but in terms of community organizing and in elections, I think it's there if we just have to seize it.

00:25:02.000 And you know, our constituency is disaffected, patriotic Americans of rural and blue-collar backgrounds, and the best example of somebody like this from history is Dorothy from Wizard of Oz.

00:25:14.000 From a poor background, probably her family didn't own that farm.

00:25:18.000 They were at the whims of much more powerful forces in the economy and in the government.

00:25:22.000 And she was just blown off with a tornado to some foreign land where she had absolutely no control and no power. 0.66

00:25:28.000 But what she realized by the end is that she had the power all along in her ruby slippers and she just needed to tap them together and say, home sweet home.

00:25:35.000 If we can just get our people in the same way to recognize if they cast those ballots, an informed ballot, and get engaged with the process, they can solve their problems.

00:25:46.000 How do you feel about voting machines?

00:25:49.000 Like, I'm very concerned about proprietary voting machines where we can't see the code, so we don't know if they're flipping vote tallies in the background.

00:25:54.000 How do you foresee a solution to at least create transparency so that we know for sure that it's giving us accurate vote tallies?

00:26:02.000 So I have documented cases where the voting machines made a mistake.

00:26:09.000 And there was a county where this happened.

00:26:12.000 It was caught and it was fixed.

00:26:14.000 But what I think is the solution long term is to insist on open source voting equipment.

00:26:19.000 You know, pan count, that's technically open source.

00:26:21.000 And even if you don't believe, because, you know, all these Democrats and leftists were saying before 2020 that, oh, I see these machines changing votes right in front of my eyes.

00:26:30.000 Kamala Harris said that herself.

00:26:32.000 There's a documentary on HBO.

00:26:34.000 Now they're all denying it.

00:26:35.000 But even if you don't believe that, there's a lot of good reasons to switch to open source voting equipment, which is that it's a hell of a lot cheaper.

00:26:41.000 It's like half the cost.

00:26:42.000 And when you get proprietary equipment, you're locked into that company maintaining it, fixing it, updating it forever.

00:26:49.000 And that gets very expensive.

00:26:50.000 It's a monopoly.

00:26:51.000 Whereas if it's open source, you can have an in-state tech company and create in-state jobs to maintain it and update it.

00:26:56.000 And I'll tell you, it's really more of a Republican issue now, but there was a Democrat in Congress who was a scientist, and he actually proposed a law Mandating that all voting equipment be open source.

00:27:06.000 So even in places like California, we're making progress on that front.

00:27:10.000 And honestly, I have not seen any evidence of machines intentionally changing the outcome of a vote, and I've seen a lot of evidence to the contrary.

00:27:17.000 But it's really about restoring trust of the public.

00:27:19.000 They need to believe it.

00:27:21.000 They need to have a Matt Brainerd walk in and see, oh yes, these machines are correct, the code is right, it's doing what it says it can do, to restore their trust in the voting system.

00:27:28.000 And I think that's why so many on the left oppose it, is because they don't want the trust restored, because they want people discouraged from voting.

00:27:35.000 Let's jump into this next story.

00:27:37.000 I do want to come back to the voting stuff, but I want to work through some of this campaign news.

00:27:40.000 We have this story from NBC News.

00:27:43.000 Peaky Blinders and Cillian Murphy denounce homophobic video shared by DeSantis' campaign.

00:27:49.000 The video uses footage from various films, shows, and media outlets to depict the Florida governor taking extreme anti-LGBTQ positions.

00:27:57.000 And we have this tweet.

00:27:58.000 It says, on behalf of the partners of Peaky Blinders, Stephen Knight, Cillian Murphy, Karen Mandebok Productions, Tiger Aspect Productions, and Banajay Writes.

00:28:07.000 We confirm the footage of Tommy Shelby's character used within the video posted by Ron DeSantis' campaign was obtained without permission or official license.

00:28:16.000 We do not support nor endorse the video's narrative and strongly disapprove of the use of the content in this manner.

00:28:21.000 And then we also have this from The Hill.

00:28:24.000 Republican LGBTQ group blasts DeSantis over homophobic campaign video.

00:28:30.000 I don't know if they actually post it, but you guys might remember this.

00:28:32.000 We talked about it last week.

00:28:34.000 I thought it was cringe.

00:28:35.000 I don't know.

00:28:36.000 Did you see this video, Matt?

00:28:37.000 I saw it.

00:28:38.000 Where it's like Trump with the pride flag and saying, you know, like, we're going to protect our LGBTQ supporter, our LGBT supporters.

00:28:46.000 And then it starts showing all these news clippings of Ron DeSantis, you know, rejecting a lot of the more modern woke stuff.

00:28:52.000 My take on it was it's absurd to conflate Donald Trump saying the typical or the more traditional live and let live position with the modern woke grooming position.

00:29:04.000 Like Trump is not supporting grooming and the stuff that DeSantis is going after now that we support is stopping the exploitation of children.

00:29:11.000 To conflate those two things to make it seem like Trump supported grooming today is completely wrong but it's resulted in a major backlash where now I'm seeing on Twitter this has been happening for the past week or so we've been out and now even Peaky Blinders coming out and attacking him over it.

00:29:26.000 I'm not surprised the media and Hollywood or whatever would come after him, but even conservatives are criticizing him for this.

00:29:32.000 You know, I sort of put on my political consultant hat with this one, and this is just one other case of DeSantis' staff screwing up his chances.

00:29:42.000 Oh yeah.

00:29:44.000 No, it wasn't Ron DeSantis that went into the account and retweeted it.

00:29:46.000 Now look, outside groups create edgy, weird videos to support their candidate all the time.

00:29:50.000 And that's what happened here.

00:29:51.000 Some edgy outside group created this, but then somebody who has access to the campaign account saw that, and they thought, oh, let's retweet this one, because then it made something that was an outside group that had distance from the campaign.

00:30:02.000 Maybe it got a few voters their way, or made people ask questions, oh, how committed is Trump to the anti-groomer agenda?

00:30:09.000 And then they totally stepped in it.

00:30:11.000 And basically by retweeting, they took ownership of the video.

00:30:14.000 And look, I run in the same circles of people that work for DeSantis and all the other campaigns.

00:30:20.000 And inside, the complaints about his staff screwing up his campaign have been persistent and growing louder going back months.

00:30:30.000 And here's the problem is that when you're a governor of a state and you win a seat by a large margin because you're a great governor, which he is, and your opponent is terrible, everybody on the staff thinks they're the ones that earned you that 19-point victory.

00:30:45.000 And in terms of expanding from a governor's race to a national race, which is from T-ball to Major League Baseball, you have to expand that circle of trust.

00:30:53.000 And what he's done is he's taken a team that didn't really do a lot to get him through a governor's race and now, oh, now we're running a presidential campaign.

00:31:00.000 And he has to learn to expand his circle of trust to get people who are not going to allow bonehead mistakes like that to happen.

00:31:07.000 Because, look, there's a lot of stuff going on that has been tremendously detrimental to his campaign.

00:31:13.000 And it just comes down to staff. 0.55

00:31:16.000 It's his staff that screwed up.

00:31:18.000 It's his campaign press team. 0.95

00:31:20.000 Have been rolling around in it like crazy.

00:31:23.000 Picking fights with a women's group in New Hampshire because they double-scheduled an event in New Hampshire with the most powerful Republican women's group in the state.

00:31:30.000 Everyone's saying, oh, we're sorry, we'll move it to a different date or a different time or something like that.

00:31:35.000 They said, oh, we'll pick a fight with these guys. 0.69

00:31:37.000 What kind of fight?

00:31:38.000 What'd they do?

00:31:39.000 A public fight.

00:31:40.000 Like verbal on Twitter?

00:31:41.000 Yeah, like that kind of fight.

00:31:43.000 And there's stuff happening behind the scenes I can't really share, but I'll give you one really good example, okay?

00:31:50.000 So there's this congressman from Florida, Greg Stube, who was not sure who he was going to endorse.

00:31:58.000 He hadn't endorsed Trump yet, like most of his colleagues from Florida, right?

00:32:01.000 And he's up in the air, right?

00:32:04.000 And he got a phone call.

00:32:07.000 A member of DeSantis' staff called him to say, hey, can you hold off endorsing President Trump?

00:32:12.000 Because we'd like to get your endorsement.

00:32:14.000 Both of you know the problem with that, right?

00:32:17.000 A staff member calling a member of Congress to back.

00:32:19.000 Not the governor, a staff member.

00:32:22.000 This is a guy, this is interesting because this guy, he had an accident.

00:32:26.000 He fell off a ladder in December or something.

00:32:28.000 He badly injured himself.

00:32:29.000 The first person to call him in the emergency room?

00:32:31.000 Yes.

00:32:31.000 Trump.

00:32:33.000 And I've got so many friends who are like mid-tier, low-tier influencers who say something cool about President Trump.

00:32:38.000 Guess what they get?

00:32:39.000 A FedEx with the tweet with his signature on it saying, keep up the great work.

00:32:43.000 Like, all candidates have their flaws, but it's just really troubling to see these repeated mistakes.

00:32:50.000 And Trump's team, they're all on top of something.

00:32:53.000 Trump is the guy.

00:32:54.000 I went to his rallies in 2015 and 2016.

00:32:57.000 When the rally was over, he'd walk up to the front of the stage, the barricades, and he would just hang out and shake hands and just talk to whoever was there.

00:33:04.000 He knows people.

00:33:06.000 He gets it.

00:33:08.000 Calling that guy after getting hurt.

00:33:10.000 It's like an authentic thing to do.

00:33:12.000 DeSantis has been plastic. 0.84

00:33:15.000 The whole time, his press people are miserably bad.

00:33:20.000 And I want to show you this real quick.

00:33:22.000 So put a pin in that thought.

00:33:24.000 Phil, predict it now has Ron at 24 cents.

00:33:27.000 He was actually rivaling Trump.

00:33:29.000 And at some point, if he was above Trump, now he's gone.

00:33:32.000 It's gone.

00:33:33.000 Matt, do you think that, because as far as I can tell, the strategy that DeSantis has is to attack Trump from the right.

00:33:40.000 Do you think that that's a winning strategy?

00:33:45.000 I'm not sure that that is his strategy.

00:33:48.000 I think it's been different things at different times, which is part of the problem.

00:33:53.000 Look, it was going to be an uphill battle to begin with, and I think what was a little bit unexpected was that the indictments would actually—and first, I could see this, I'm sure everyone at this table could see this—but the indictments were actually very helpful to consolidating the base to Trump, and they did something else, is they sucked all the oxygen out of the air for all the other candidates.

00:34:12.000 Right?

00:34:12.000 Plus with the fact that you've got all these other candidates coming in, if it was a mano-a-mano it might be a different story because I think what DeSantis' value proposition is that I'm just as conservative, if not more conservative, but I can actually deliver on what I say because I'll point out to, you know, things that Trump couldn't quite get done.

00:34:28.000 Do you feel like Trump's, because I feel like Trump's strength wasn't in that he was particularly conservative.

00:34:35.000 His strength was that he would take the fight to the left.

00:34:39.000 So Trump didn't have to be like, you know, he was he was friendly to LGBT issues and stuff like that.

00:34:47.000 And he didn't really come from The conservative, especially the religious conservative.

00:34:54.000 I mean, everybody remembers the whole, you know, the Bible's my favorite book of the Bible, you know, that that exchange.

00:35:00.000 So I don't feel like he was ever particularly far to the right.

00:35:04.000 Did you feel like he was?

00:35:07.000 I think that there are issues where he was to the right of the party.

00:35:09.000 On immigration, he was by far the most right-wing candidate in 2016 because right before he went down that elevator, escalator, he had read Ann Coulter's book on immigration and that fired him up and that really put him on the map.

00:35:22.000 You could always say that.

00:35:24.000 I think what he has over the other candidates is that he's a known quantity.

00:35:28.000 A lot of people think he was, that the election in 2020 was rigged or, I can say it now, I

00:35:34.000 guess some people, a lot of people think it was stolen or rigged and...

00:35:38.000 You could always say that.

00:35:40.000 But...

00:35:41.000 You could play Trump saying it.

00:35:42.000 Oh yeah, yeah, but he is authentic and he's got a level of authenticity that is, like

00:35:48.000 when you read his tweets when he was on Twitter, and now his tweets are still on Twitter because

00:35:52.000 They'll just take truth and repost it on Twitter.

00:35:53.000 You read that, and you know he wrote it, and nobody got in his way.

00:35:57.000 It wasn't Focus Group or anything like that.

00:36:00.000 Whereas some of these other candidates, I think they just struggle a little bit with the authenticity.

00:36:04.000 It's kind of crazy watching—DeSantis is crashing and burning, and it really is his press team because he has done great work.

00:36:13.000 This video, I pulled it up.

00:36:14.000 Here's the video from DeSantis' War Room.

00:36:16.000 To wrap up Pride Month, let's hear from the politician who did more than any other Republican to celebrate it.

00:36:20.000 And they insult Trump for what actually was good.

00:36:24.000 I know a lot of people are not happy with the Pride flag and the current woke stuff, but we've had this conversation for years.

00:36:30.000 Nine million Obama voters switched to the Republican Party, and one of the big issues was Donald Trump was very much like, these are our Americans.

00:36:42.000 We're going to support them.

00:36:43.000 This battle is over. 0.96

00:36:44.000 There is a big difference between being like, hey, we have no issue with you if you're gay. 0.92

00:36:49.000 And there are people grooming children and putting these weird books in schools. 0.66

00:36:53.000 DeSantis is fighting against those weird books.

00:36:55.000 He's fighting against the grooming stuff.

00:36:56.000 Really, really great work.

00:36:58.000 Donald Trump was not in support of those things back then.

00:37:00.000 They're completely different issues.

00:37:01.000 They're conflating them. 0.96

00:37:03.000 DeSantis goes from, you know, on paper, you have this amazing track record in Florida, to a press team that is making him look ridiculous. 0.83

00:37:12.000 I mean, this video, I said it was cringe. 0.58

00:37:13.000 People were like, I really like it.

00:37:14.000 Here, let me play a little bit of it for you guys.

00:37:16.000 I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ citizens.

00:37:24.000 If Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use the bathroom, you would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses. 0.97

00:37:33.000 That is correct.

00:37:33.000 In the future, can transgender women compete in this universe?

00:37:39.000 Yes.

00:37:39.000 Make America great again.

00:37:41.000 PSYCH!

00:37:43.000 Okay, so basically showing American Psycho and Peaky Blinders and showing ad headlines

00:37:56.000 like Rhonda Santa signs draconian anti-trans bathroom bill into law and it this is really

00:38:01.000 just not doing him any favors.

00:38:03.000 Like you were mentioning attacking him from the right.

00:38:05.000 What is the purpose of this video?

00:38:07.000 So I'm 37, this video doesn't do it for me?

00:38:10.000 I'll tell you because in 1996 there were a lot of people outside the Trump campaign that were creating really cool videos.

00:38:18.000 I do this all the time.

00:38:19.000 My wife's yelling at the TV right now. 1.00

00:38:20.000 1996, I was like, what?

00:38:22.000 My golden times.

00:38:23.000 Good years.

00:38:24.000 In 2016, they were creating these really cool third party videos that were like the meme wars, right?

00:38:29.000 Like the Caterpillar videos, and they were really kind of cool, and they had a style.

00:38:33.000 They're trying to imitate that and capture that.

00:38:36.000 Whoever created this video, I mean clearly they've got some editing talent,

00:38:38.000 and they're trying, it's in a, it's got this motif of like a,

00:38:42.000 sort of a 4chan poll motif and vibe to it, and you almost think if you slow it down enough

00:38:48.000 You might see one of those white nationalist stars, those things.

00:38:52.000 I can't remember what it's called.

00:38:53.000 The golden sun thing rotating in the back.

00:38:55.000 It's the black sun.

00:38:55.000 Oh, the black sun.

00:38:56.000 It's like all of that, and I feel like whoever created it was like, we're trying to get to these guys, and maybe they're not the most savvy, right?

00:39:03.000 But somebody hit the retweet button on that campaign account, and that is...

00:39:10.000 They don't belong to that job anymore.

00:39:12.000 Just find out one person who needs to be fired from the campaign.

00:39:14.000 Were they fired?

00:39:16.000 We probably wouldn't even know.

00:39:17.000 Maybe they will be, maybe they won't.

00:39:19.000 So, obviously DeSantis also had the deepfake thing when he posted the fake photos of Trump and Fauci.

00:39:25.000 And it's still up.

00:39:26.000 It's remarkable that DeSantis... I'm sorry.

00:39:26.000 It's still up.

00:39:29.000 Look, man. 0.99

00:39:31.000 I love his track record in Florida, but the man is incompetent.

00:39:34.000 If he cannot fire his people after all of these blunders, the dude is not fit to be president.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, and it's like, it's fine to have, like, if you wanted to actually, if the campaign wanted to get a video like this out there to undermine Trump among, say, a certain portion of the right, you have like an outside group just sort of put it up, like it was originally, like some weird thing that circulated through the discords and the telegrams where those people, where those people live and don't touch grass.

00:40:01.000 But there's a reason.

00:40:03.000 Oftentimes you want to have an indirect attack.

00:40:05.000 So you have somebody far away, throw it at them, and then your hands are clean.

00:40:08.000 So this is on an operational level a failure.

00:40:12.000 Why didn't you PSYOP?

00:40:13.000 Which is crazy because you don't want candidates to be PSYOPing each other.

00:40:17.000 But I mean, he didn't PSYOP.

00:40:18.000 He put it on the DeSantis account.

00:40:20.000 It was made by somebody else, and then they took the URL to the video and tweeted it.

00:40:24.000 Sorry to interrupt, you were saying.

00:40:25.000 Yeah, yeah, but I mean maybe the campaign did create it and they want to get it out too, but you don't, you do these things, like I said, I've been in this field since the mid 90s, that's why I keep saying 96.

00:40:37.000 This is old school political operation.

00:40:39.000 You have somebody else attack, you have some other source go after them, a distant proxy, so you keep your hands clean, and they just dove face first into the mud with this one.

00:40:51.000 A lot of people keep defending Ron.

00:40:53.000 They say things like, this is his campaign, it's not him, blah blah blah.

00:40:57.000 At this point, the man has not taken the tweets down or fired these people.

00:41:02.000 Okay, that right there.

00:41:04.000 We talk about the problems of bureaucracy.

00:41:06.000 You know what I love about the DeSantis people on Twitter is they lie about what I've said.

00:41:12.000 And if they're gonna play that game where DeSantis posts deepfakes, then they lie about what I'm saying.

00:41:17.000 They're just trying to trick you into supporting this guy for whatever reason, I don't know.

00:41:20.000 One person was like, Tim Pool thinks- has said that Trump will magically be different this time around.

00:41:25.000 I was like, I never said that.

00:41:26.000 I said there's like a 55% chance Trump actually fires a bunch of these people, and that's the best we can hope for.

00:41:31.000 If the probability between- if the probability is higher that Trump will fire the bureaucrats over at his hand as you vote for Trump, DeSantis won't even fire his own bad staff members, and we're supposed to believe he's going to end the Department of Education or the IRS or something?

00:41:45.000 Get out of here with that. 0.99

00:41:46.000 Not going to happen.

00:41:47.000 In his defense, I would caution you with one thing, and that is that it's a long way to Iowa, to New Hampshire, to South Carolina, and a lot of these candidates can make their course corrections.

00:41:57.000 You never know what's going to happen next.

00:41:58.000 I'm begging him!

00:42:00.000 I'm begging him! 1.00

00:42:00.000 Fire these people! 1.00

00:42:02.000 I like his track record in Florida! 0.99

00:42:02.000 I am! 0.99

00:42:05.000 I mean, we had on, uh, I'm not gonna say the names of these people because they're duplicitous liars, but we had a guest on the Culture War show who tried playing this game of, like, name a policy from DeSantis, and no matter what I said, she just kept asking the same questions as if I didn't say anything, because of course they were clip farming and they intended to lie the whole time.

00:42:22.000 But DeSantis' policies based in Florida, how he handled COVID, was good.

00:42:27.000 When it comes to the books that they're being removed from these schools, good.

00:42:30.000 When it comes to saying you can't have kids at these events, good.

00:42:33.000 These are good things.

00:42:34.000 Clearly, in terms of culture war issues, we care about he is doing a good job.

00:42:41.000 When it comes to attracting business and new residents, when it comes to taxes, he's doing a great job.

00:42:46.000 Don't get me wrong, the Republican legislature in Florida is probably doing a lot of the heavy lifting, but we like these things because they matter to us.

00:42:53.000 Then, when it comes to his terrible team, He can't handle it?

00:42:58.000 I am begging the DeSantis campaign to fire these people so that I can come out tomorrow and say, I'm on Team DeSantis.

00:43:06.000 Not gonna happen, unless he does.

00:43:08.000 And the thing is, too, I've been all over the country, I've met with a lot of people who we need to win over, and a lot of them, they would be more happy to vote for DeSantis than for Trump at this point in time.

00:43:19.000 For some reason, they just don't get along with Trump.

00:43:21.000 And I think that, look, I actually met the governor before he started running for president.

00:43:26.000 I had a small chat with him, just one-on-one, and he was great.

00:43:30.000 And I think that he wrote a book recently, it was published, right?

00:43:35.000 The Courage to Be Free, I think.

00:43:36.000 And I read it, I went from beginning to end, and it was a nice book, good biography, But I don't think enough of him was in it.

00:43:44.000 Like, he talked about his whole baseball career, right?

00:43:46.000 He played baseball in high school and college, very proud.

00:43:48.000 But I feel like he needed to be more involved.

00:43:50.000 There's something wrong with the book because it never told me what position he played.

00:43:52.000 So imagine talking about how proud you are to play baseball, but the book, maybe I missed it.

00:43:58.000 However, before he ever ran for Congress, after he got out of the Navy, he actually wrote a book that I am sure he had to have written himself because he didn't have a bunch of people around him helping.

00:44:06.000 And it was Dreams of Our Founding Fathers.

00:44:09.000 There were only 100 or so copies published.

00:44:11.000 I got one of them, made a copy of it myself, and I started reading because I want to know these guys.

00:44:15.000 The difference between those two books, the one that came out recently that probably had many editors and a lot of help, and the one he had to have written himself, he self-published 120 copies.

00:44:25.000 He would go to GOP events and sell it at a card table.

00:44:28.000 That book is brilliant.

00:44:30.000 It could be a textbook in a college.

00:44:33.000 It is that level of understanding of our founding fathers, of principles, of how articulated it is.

00:44:38.000 I'd love to see more of the Ron DeSantis that wrote that book than wrote the new one.

00:44:42.000 But if he is so weak that he has handed off these issues to lesser skilled individuals, then he has shown he does not have what it takes to be president.

00:44:52.000 He can have great policy all he wants, but just like Tim said, if you can't get elected, if you can't win, then it doesn't matter.

00:45:01.000 Execution is everything.

00:45:02.000 It's not just about getting elected.

00:45:04.000 If he's showing us that he has bad people working in his campaign and he does nothing about it, what do you think is going to happen when he's in government?

00:45:13.000 He is in a position where if he were doing a better job campaigning, he should have a significantly smaller gap between him and Trump.

00:45:26.000 Trump's got a lot of downside, regardless of whether you support him or not.

00:45:30.000 There's a lot of things people can criticize Trump for.

00:45:33.000 Trump hired some bad people.

00:45:34.000 Yeah.

00:45:34.000 He definitely did.

00:45:35.000 But Trump has no problem smack-talking the people that he eventually got rid of.

00:45:40.000 DeSantis is just doing nothing and saying nothing.

00:45:42.000 Pure weakness.

00:45:44.000 You know what would be the real sign to everybody that he's going to make a course correction?

00:45:49.000 He calls you and says, I want to come on your show.

00:45:51.000 Because when you're in the position he is right now, you need to be here.

00:45:54.000 You need to be talking to this audience.

00:45:56.000 You need to be engaging.

00:45:58.000 That's up to the people who watch this show, right?

00:46:01.000 I'm just some dude who complains about things on the internet.

00:46:07.000 We've had people say, like, Tim, you should get Trump on, you should get this person on.

00:46:09.000 And I'm like, dude, none of these people owe me anything.

00:46:11.000 If they want to come on the show, I'd love to have them.

00:46:13.000 If Ron wanted to come on the show, we'd love to have him.

00:46:14.000 We wanted to have him before.

00:46:16.000 And I think a conversation like this...

00:46:20.000 It would greatly benefit him, but here's the point.

00:46:21.000 I think what we're seeing is that he is incapable of a long-form free-flowing conversation in this way.

00:46:26.000 He is too surrounded by bad people who are not allowing him to be an authentic personality like Trump is.

00:46:33.000 I disagree.

00:46:33.000 I think he's capable of it if he just undoes the tie, undoes the black collar, comes in and just sits down and deals.

00:46:41.000 I know he has it in him.

00:46:42.000 He's just got to come in and do it.

00:46:43.000 I don't disagree.

00:46:44.000 What I'm saying is the people who surround him are not allowing him to do these things.

00:46:47.000 Yeah, we should shoot some hoops.

00:46:49.000 Come on down, Ron.

00:46:50.000 Let's go play basketball in the skate park for a little while and a couple hours before the show, get loose, and then talk about politics.

00:46:56.000 for that.

00:46:57.000 That could be the moment that turns the campaign around.

00:47:00.000 And then he does, he reaches out, he has this type of conversation, which I know he's capable of, and then his poll numbers go whoosh.

00:47:08.000 I believe, whether it is this show or any other show, if Ron DeSantis came out and sat down and had a real conversation where they addressed the deepfakes, where they talked about this ad, his polling would skyrocket double digits overnight. 0.59

00:47:23.000 overnight. His predicted would jump way up, but he's avoiding it, hoping to make it all go away

00:47:30.000 like it's 1993 and we're using old school PR tactics of if you say nothing it goes away.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, take a look at Bud Light, dude. People aren't forgetting these things,

00:47:39.000 they're taking them seriously. And you know, President Trump has

00:47:42.000 demonstrated that you can put people in positions of great power 0.99

00:47:44.000 and then fire them and shit talk them endlessly. 0.99

00:47:49.000 Right? 1.00

00:47:50.000 Let's jump to this next story about Bud Light, because this is big.

00:47:54.000 For the post-millennial, bottling plants shut down after Bud Light's sales tank amid Dylan Mulvaney partnership.

00:48:00.000 So the news is 645 jobs lost, employees out of work, after the R-Dog group Shut down two plants according to WRAL it was because there was a decrease in demand falling bud light sales and thus they had no reason to make bottles anymore because bud light doesn't need them.

00:48:21.000 Ladies and gentlemen, This is winning the culture war, and this is substantive, but there was always going to be collateral damage.

00:48:28.000 I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs because of this, but it's the fault of Bud Light.

00:48:35.000 It's really tragic, but there's sort of the other side of it.

00:48:36.000 It's not like America's drinking less beer, so maybe there are 450 or 500 more jobs created, another plant making the bottles.

00:48:45.000 But I know the company's still wildly profitable, but this is sort of the same trick that Amazon does.

00:48:49.000 It's not a Budweiser plant, it's a subcontractor.

00:48:51.000 So it's the subcontractor that has to eat all the dirt and the bad decisions that the contractor made.

00:48:59.000 And InBev is a, what is it, Belgian-Brazilian company anyway, so I'm not, no offense, I'm not too concerned if they go bankrupt.

00:49:06.000 I mean, I'm not all gung-ho on America right now, but I'd like to see these people go get a job with an American brewing company like Yingling or something.

00:49:13.000 Yingling's expanding.

00:49:14.000 Hopefully, if Yingling sales skyrocket, Molson, Coors, you know, whatever, then there will be bottling demand.

00:49:20.000 But it's interesting, the point you bring up, People are still buying beer, so they still need to bottle beer.

00:49:28.000 So what's happening?

00:49:29.000 These other bottling plants are doubling their workload, and these people are getting laid off.

00:49:34.000 Not really a great situation, but I just want to say, This is actually a sign of permanent economic damage to a brand that decided to get woke.

00:49:44.000 The damage to the brand probably can't be overstated.

00:49:47.000 Can't be undone either.

00:49:48.000 No.

00:49:49.000 You could also get a job with Ultra Right Beer.

00:49:51.000 I'm not sure if Conservative Dad's Ultra Right is hiring at the moment, but I'm sure they will be soon.

00:49:55.000 I just drank like six of those.

00:49:56.000 I imagine the place that lost the 500 jobs, I imagine that is probably not strategically located.

00:50:03.000 near another place where these people can just transfer over to another bottle.

00:50:08.000 You know what's saddest about this is that these people lost their jobs.

00:50:12.000 Some are probably not going to be able to afford their mortgages.

00:50:14.000 It's going to cost them their marriages, cost them their children, cost them everything.

00:50:19.000 Whereas the CEO of Anheuser-Busch, see, he's still employed.

00:50:24.000 He's still the guy at the top.

00:50:25.000 He's still making it in.

00:50:27.000 They're subsidizing a lot of these companies.

00:50:30.000 That would be Carlos Brito is his name.

00:50:31.000 He's a Brazilian guy.

00:50:32.000 They did can the woman that was... They're denying it, but it's been reported that the woman and the guy have been... two people were removed.

00:50:43.000 Well, you know they got a fat severance package.

00:50:45.000 They're not out on the street.

00:50:46.000 They're not like these blue-collar people in North Carolina.

00:50:48.000 Well, no, no.

00:50:49.000 Officially, here's what I think happened.

00:50:52.000 Officially, they're not fired.

00:50:53.000 They're on leave.

00:50:55.000 But literally, according to sources in the company, they're considered completely severed from the company.

00:51:01.000 The reason they're not firing them is because Anheuser-Busch fears a lawsuit.

00:51:06.000 They fear that they'll get sued, some labor dispute.

00:51:09.000 So by putting them on an indefinite leave and saying nothing...

00:51:12.000 They can get rid of them, they're fired effectively, but officially they're not fired.

00:51:16.000 But they're also going to become folk heroes on the left, they're going to get a well-paid job with any number of left-wing groups that are supportive of what they did, so they're going to land very well, I don't have any doubt.

00:51:26.000 Maybe, but the left is clearly losing.

00:51:28.000 I mean, remarkably.

00:51:30.000 I mean, this is catastrophic.

00:51:31.000 I think virtue signaling loses, and it especially loses in business, man.

00:51:35.000 When all you care about is making a profit, nobody cares what you think.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, but who's bearing the... I get it, and I guess companies are now a lot more cautious about doing anything woke, right?

00:51:46.000 But look at what happened here, and look who actually paid the price.

00:51:49.000 These blue-collar workers who probably vote the way we like them to vote, who are good, loyal Americans, they're the ones out of their job.

00:51:56.000 The people who are responsible for the decision, they're getting golden parachutes, they're gonna get... go work for GLAAD or one of the left-wing homosexual groups or something. 0.64

00:52:03.000 They're gonna do great!

00:52:04.000 They should have quit when this happened.

00:52:06.000 So...

00:52:07.000 When the controversy started, and you saw sales declining, and the stock was tanking, you've had three months to find a different job.

00:52:16.000 You mean the bottling factory people?

00:52:18.000 I don't know if it's as easy for them as we might- Didn't say it was easy!

00:52:22.000 Didn't say it was easy, but- I get it.

00:52:24.000 I hear you, but- You can see the storm coming, and I'm sorry.

00:52:28.000 I'm not happy these people are losing their jobs.

00:52:31.000 However, I am not going to stand in support of people who are propping up what Bud Light was doing.

00:52:36.000 I don't think they even had any awareness of it.

00:52:38.000 They're just shift workers who probably didn't barely finish high school, if anything like that.

00:52:43.000 I don't think they had... These are pure civil... Like, there are people who know better.

00:52:46.000 If that's true, I have less sympathy for them.

00:52:50.000 The idea that you... Okay, look.

00:52:52.000 What Bud Light was doing with Dylan Mulvaney, I believe, is the banality of evil.

00:52:57.000 The algorithm is propping up this Borat-like character that is insulting to most people, and you, working at these factories and supporting Bud Light, are one of the individuals holding up that machine, engaging in the banality of evil.

00:53:12.000 I don't blame people for not knowing, because people try to do good, and we try to inform them, but I'm not going to shed a tear if There is an evil organization doing evil things.

00:53:24.000 You are helping them.

00:53:26.000 If you're the henchman for a supervillain and you get fired because the villain's been arrested, I'm not going to be like, oh, that's really sad he's out of a job.

00:53:32.000 I'll be like, good, less henchman for the villain.

00:53:34.000 I just don't think you can hold somebody with a 90 IQ who's doing everything they can within the law to raise their family and doesn't have the capability of seeing what you and I can see because we're in this world.

00:53:45.000 They're just innocent civilians that got caught up in this.

00:53:48.000 I disagree.

00:53:48.000 They are components of a machine that is engaging in cultural destruction, decay, and the banality of evil.

00:53:54.000 I don't blame them as individuals for marching in lockstep with an evil machine, but if we're going to stop the cultural degradation, they have to lose their jobs.

00:54:04.000 But the people who made the decisions are not punished at all, and they're just going to go on to the next company and do it again.

00:54:11.000 The people at the bottom are holding this machine up.

00:54:14.000 I do not believe the goal is to intentionally hurt the regular workers.

00:54:17.000 But even if you wanted to punish them, there's no amount of punishment that's going to make them understand what they need to understand to fix this.

00:54:22.000 Then we're in agreement.

00:54:24.000 The only thing you can do is dismantle the machine, and that means the people at the bottom are going to lose their jobs first.

00:54:30.000 There's nothing else you can do.

00:54:32.000 You're not, you're never gonna get, even if they fire the CEO, you're talking about cutting off the head of a Hydra, two more grow back in its place.

00:54:38.000 These individual workers, the bottling plants that are producing Bud Light and selling it, are generating the profits for an evil machine.

00:54:45.000 You could seize the company with the government and then strip the corporation.

00:54:49.000 I mean, that's one tactic.

00:54:50.000 I mean, they're just so easily replaced.

00:54:52.000 If they decide, oh, we're all gonna quit, let's move the plant to Mexico or something like that.

00:54:55.000 It's the next thing.

00:54:56.000 It's the people.

00:54:57.000 happened, the demand dropped so much the plants don't exist anymore, which is a good outcome.

00:54:57.000 That's not what happened.

00:55:01.000 Or the demand shifted to another brand somewhere else, which may or may not be in the United

00:55:04.000 States.

00:55:05.000 I get it, we're probably not going to agree on this, I think the enemy is the snakes at

00:55:07.000 the top, and you just, it's like you can't hold these people, it's not even if you want

00:55:15.000 to hold them accountable, you just can't because they're not capable of being held accountable.

00:55:19.000 Like, look, you are correct, the problem is the leadership of Anheuser-Busch.

00:55:23.000 Michael Ducaris, by the way.

00:55:24.000 You've got a standing army in front of them blocking you from putting in, from stopping

00:55:29.000 the evil practices.

00:55:30.000 I think we succeeded in a way because, look, these guys are going to not make as much money as they would have otherwise.

00:55:36.000 Two people who are pretty high profile kind of lost their jobs and are going to have a tough time of it.

00:55:41.000 And we can see the effect just because all these companies that are so eager to celebrate Pride Month, regardless of what you think of it, they kind of toned it down a little.

00:55:47.000 And some other companies sort of backed off some of the woke stuff.

00:55:49.000 Starbucks, Target, et cetera.

00:55:51.000 To me, the profits for the people at the top getting cut is really all they care about.

00:55:56.000 So if you can hit that, that's kind of how you adjust the culture.

00:55:59.000 But that is the collateral damage that will trickle down and hit the bottom workers.

00:56:03.000 Well, there's a reason it's called collateral damage.

00:56:04.000 Right.

00:56:05.000 So my point is, I want these people to find jobs.

00:56:09.000 I don't blame them for the actions of the organization, but it is a good thing that these jobs were lost.

00:56:14.000 Bud Light shrinking is good.

00:56:16.000 That means people lose their jobs.

00:56:18.000 I don't know if it's corporatism or capitalism that protects the CEO and the owners of the company when they can just liquidate their work staff and they don't have to pay any price for destroying their company's profits.

00:56:28.000 You would say that's why communism, some people might want it because the government can go take the company away and say you misused it, you're gone.

00:56:35.000 That's not even communism, I mean there can be consumer protections in a capitalist system.

00:56:39.000 Where you would go strip the CEO of his job, of his duty, and take the stockholder's stock away?

00:56:44.000 Through due process, if a crime is committed.

00:56:46.000 Only if it's a crime.

00:56:47.000 But since it's not a crime in the capitalist system, we've been letting CEOs get away with it for years.

00:56:51.000 The point I'm making is, communism is not the answer.

00:56:54.000 No, I know.

00:56:54.000 That's why we have a capitalist system, and it's better than communism, but how do you protect the workers?

00:56:59.000 Alright, so you pass laws protecting workers.

00:57:02.000 You can have a capitalism that says, specifically, if you intentionally destroy the company to hurt workers, there can be some kind of intervention.

00:57:11.000 It's not absolute.

00:57:12.000 There's not either capitalism or communism.

00:57:15.000 Communism is not the right word for it, because it's political.

00:57:17.000 It's not either capitalism or socialism.

00:57:18.000 There's varying degrees.

00:57:19.000 State controlled, yeah, whatever.

00:57:20.000 So having some protection, I think that some protections are a good thing.

00:57:24.000 But ultimately, my point here is, What did anyone think was going to happen?

00:57:29.000 You stop buying Bud Light.

00:57:31.000 There is less money going to Bud Light.

00:57:33.000 They will fire many people.

00:57:35.000 We are not mad at the people who got fired.

00:57:37.000 It is a good thing Bud Light is shrinking.

00:57:39.000 That's it.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, and to your questions, how do you solve this in a capitalist system?

00:57:43.000 You know, the original union organizer, who is not a communist, he's an immigrant named Samuel Gompers, had the solution.

00:57:49.000 And that was for workers to form a union and use their bargaining power to actually acquire the company.

00:57:56.000 So it's the workers that own the company.

00:57:58.000 So they pool their funds, they buy more and more stock, more positions to eventually a situation where the founder dies and passes on and then they sell the company to the workers.

00:58:06.000 So when you have a worker-owned company, it provides a lot of protection.

00:58:09.000 Unfortunately, the union movement in this country went into the direction of politics and aiding politics and wanting not to take over management.

00:58:17.000 But to fight with management for purposes of demagoguing and delivering votes to a political party.

00:58:22.000 So that's kind of where we lost our way.

00:58:24.000 But there is a solution.

00:58:25.000 It is fully compatible with capitalism.

00:58:26.000 But also it's a globalist company like AB InBev is a Belgian, is it?

00:58:31.000 Belgian company?

00:58:32.000 It's Brazilian and but in Switzerland, I don't remember where it is.

00:58:36.000 So how do our American union laws function with a multinational corporation?

00:58:41.000 A union, they're still publicly traded.

00:58:44.000 You give that union that had the people working in North Carolina or workers co-op a few board seats, you'd see a different outcome.

00:58:53.000 They can earn those board seats.

00:58:56.000 So I got some news in this related area and I seek advice from our loyal viewers.

00:59:03.000 So as many of you know we're working on a coffee shop and there are some issues related to laws which are causing it to get delayed massively.

00:59:12.000 It's an old building and so in order to get it up to code and everything it's a ridiculous amount of work and it's a historical building so then there's like You gotta have a lot of paperwork.

00:59:21.000 So we're looking at Charlestown, West Virginia.

00:59:24.000 Not too far away from Harper's Ferry.

00:59:26.000 And there's a building for sale.

00:59:27.000 It is very big.

00:59:28.000 It's right in downtown.

00:59:30.000 And we went and checked it out.

00:59:31.000 Very excited.

00:59:32.000 And there was a restaurant there very recently.

00:59:34.000 They sold and they moved.

00:59:36.000 And I said, how cool would it be to set up our first or second location, depending on which gets done first, of Casper Coffee here in downtown Charlestown?

00:59:44.000 We went and met with the two agents, our agent and their agent.

00:59:48.000 Checked out the whole building.

00:59:49.000 It is massive.

00:59:50.000 So big, in fact, we might even be able to put a skate shop in the back with a separate entrance.

00:59:55.000 Very excited for this.

00:59:56.000 There's a stage that's already there.

00:59:57.000 Very cool.

00:59:59.000 Afterwards, we went across the street to get breakfast.

01:00:02.000 And while I was getting breakfast at a little diner called Grandma's Diner, there was a newspaper called The Spirit of Jefferson.

01:00:07.000 In it, I learned that Charlestown passed a Pride Month resolution. 0.95

01:00:10.000 The City Council of Charlestown, West Virginia, voted to declare June Pride Month in support of all the blah blah blah and long-winded garbage.

01:00:22.000 And so I said, man, what do you do?

01:00:26.000 Do you invest in a town that is moving in that direction?

01:00:30.000 Or do we make it a point to not invest in places like this?

01:00:34.000 There's a couple arguments.

01:00:35.000 The first is, if we do invest in this town, we gain influence in this town.

01:00:40.000 We bring people to this town.

01:00:42.000 Employees.

01:00:43.000 Fans.

01:00:44.000 And we start changing the culture for the better.

01:00:47.000 What if that doesn't work and the town keeps moving in this negative direction and they end up doing things that are shocking and offensive to our customers, to our friends and fans, and we lose that fight and waste all of our money?

01:00:58.000 The argument against it is maybe, maybe the city needs to see economic fallout from making decisions like this so that the people of the town get angry.

01:01:10.000 So I wonder, I kind of lean towards the best thing to do is actually invest in the town and buy the business and then put up flags and signs saying like no to all of this, invite people down and start shaping the culture with our resources and force.

01:01:25.000 There is the potential of going to the city and saying, so long as you have this resolution in effect, we will not spend a dime here.

01:01:33.000 I feel like that one doesn't necessarily work as much.

01:01:35.000 It may sound good, but it's like if your money was never available to the city in the first place, they don't care what you think.

01:01:41.000 If your money becomes available and you say, but I want to see this thing no longer in force, you may actually make a difference.

01:01:47.000 So I'm curious what the people, for those of you that are listening, what do you think is the best thing to do?

01:01:52.000 Should we open a shop in Charlestown, West Virginia, even though just now, in June, only a couple weeks ago, five to three of the city voted in support of Pride Month, which is just so insane, there's a whole month dedicated to whatever it is they're doing.

01:02:06.000 Or should we just tell them, go to the agents, and say, hey, let the people in the city know, when you tell them you can't sell the building, it's because we don't want to invest in a town like this.

01:02:17.000 You know, it's funny you bring this up, because your point of view on this is sort of the moral argument of having the conversation with the city, what do you want to do, what consequences do you want to face?

01:02:27.000 And I think that the reality is that there's no entity to have that discussion with and there's no entity that would react to say losing a business or entry.

01:02:35.000 I actually do these campaigns all over the country constantly for other things like somebody wants to build a new super center for a big, like a big box store, right?

01:02:46.000 And the community doesn't want it.

01:02:47.000 So I get in and, you know, either help them defeat or help them bring it in or something like that.

01:02:50.000 It sounds like all you really need to do is flip two city council seats.

01:02:55.000 You get a stealth campaign, you find two good candidates, you fund them, and you take it over, and you say, no more Pride Month.

01:03:00.000 And you know, that's the exact same way that George Soros took over all these prosecutors.

01:03:05.000 Get a stealth campaign, get a smart political consultant, recruit the candidates, and you flip it, and then you have... Well, that ain't me.

01:03:12.000 I'm just telling you, that's... Maybe it's something you could do, I don't know.

01:03:16.000 I'm not, I'm not that kind of guy.

01:03:17.000 I'm not gonna... But it's not even like a stealth underhanded tactic.

01:03:21.000 It's the way of the world.

01:03:22.000 You find people that you believe in and you elevate them to positions of power to help lead you and your legal system.

01:03:28.000 Who do you think got those five people that voted for Pride Month on the city council?

01:03:32.000 People who disagree with you?

01:03:34.000 The issue, I, yes, more so I think the issue is Even though the majority of people oppose all of that stuff, they do not do anything.

01:03:45.000 They don't vote, they don't get up, they don't speak out, they complain in private, and it's really, really frustrating.

01:03:50.000 The idea that West Virginia, the second most Trump-supporting state in the country, would allow woke prosecutors, and they do, in Martinsburg, they had a drag show in public with children and brought them on stage, which is illegal in West Virginia, unquestionably illegal, And no one's doing anything about it.

01:04:09.000 And they all say it's not my problem.

01:04:11.000 I don't, I have no authority.

01:04:12.000 Sorry, I can't do it.

01:04:14.000 The people, it's surprising, a rural county in West Virginia voted for woke district, woke prosecutors.

01:04:22.000 It sounds like there's a void of organization in this world, and especially in this country, and particularly in West Virginia, but probably a lot of states, that we need to develop some sort of organization, like we need to If it's just like, sorry, little kids on stage with people waving their junk around out of their face, whatever.

01:04:40.000 Like, someone needs to go in there and not lay down the law, but create order.

01:04:44.000 The average person is still, like, learning about this stuff.

01:04:47.000 Like, most people don't really have a deep knowledge about things like queer theory.

01:04:55.000 And then you've got a whole...

01:04:58.000 Well, then you've got the whole half of the country feeding a narrative that this isn't about trying to abuse kids.

01:05:06.000 You've got the whole media establishment trying to convince people that this isn't about trying to indoctrinate kids into a political mindset.

01:05:14.000 But you don't need to understand anything about queer theory to be like, hey, that child on stage taking his clothes off for money is a very bad thing. 0.77

01:05:22.000 Well, look, the reason this has advanced as far as it has is because the left is well-funded and well-organized.

01:05:28.000 Flipping these back the other way, Martinsville—Martinsville or Martinsburg?

01:05:31.000 Martinsburg.

01:05:32.000 Martinsburg, even Charleston, West Virginia.

01:05:34.000 It wasn't like— Charlestown.

01:05:36.000 Charlestown.

01:05:38.000 It wasn't an 8-to-1 vote.

01:05:39.000 It was a 5-to-3.

01:05:40.000 That means, look, if we can just get the right people informed and turn out to vote—and it's not that hard.

01:05:46.000 It just takes organization, a little bit of funding, and it's not that hard.

01:05:50.000 Well, I was like, you know, I was talking to the agent, saying like, I'm not sure it's a good idea to invest in a town that wants to go the direction of Bud Light.

01:05:59.000 Clearly, we are seeing a major backlash to what Bud Light, Target, Starbucks, and these other companies have done to the tune of tens of billions of dollars.

01:06:08.000 And I'm supposed to invest my money and start my business in a town that's going that same direction?

01:06:12.000 Well, here's the problem, though.

01:06:14.000 Eventually, you're going to run out of places to escape from.

01:06:16.000 So you have to pick a place to make your stand and fight.

01:06:21.000 This is a place where I think somebody as smart as you could come in and apply the right pressure and become part of that community.

01:06:30.000 I think you could flip it.

01:06:32.000 And you may just be the person that could do it.

01:06:33.000 The degree of pressure I would exert is talking about it on this show, having events at our coffee shop with comedians, putting up flags in the window or something.

01:06:41.000 That may be all it takes to find the additional community organizers to go out and go hit doors and explain it, because most of the voters who even voted for the five people They probably didn't even know that they voted that way.

01:06:51.000 Exposing them.

01:06:51.000 Second year they've done this though, apparently.

01:06:53.000 It's within reach.

01:06:54.000 It's really within reach.

01:06:55.000 Yeah, 5-3 isn't 8-0.

01:06:58.000 Not San Francisco.

01:07:00.000 Yeah, fair enough.

01:07:03.000 It is disheartening to know that, all right, I'm going to invest in this community, and there's people in this community that obviously are not active or not aware of political things that affect us or that we care about.

01:07:20.000 But again, five to three is not eight to zero.

01:07:25.000 I think that most of the problem is that conservatives are still mostly unaware, you know, people that would have a problem with this kind of stuff are still mostly unaware, um, that there are things like this going on.

01:07:38.000 And, and if you can just wake them, you know, make them aware of it, not, it's not even about waking them up.

01:07:43.000 It's just like, make them aware.

01:07:44.000 Cause I've said before, all of the people that I talk to that are left-leaning that are, You know, your default Democrats.

01:07:53.000 When it comes to the LGBTQIA plus stuff, the trans issues and stuff like that, even the most progressive of progressives say things like, look, they is a word that has a meaning and it's useful.

01:08:12.000 We can't just give it away to people.

01:08:14.000 It doesn't make sense in English.

01:08:16.000 You see what happened with Young Turks? 1.00

01:08:19.000 With Anna Kasparian?

01:08:20.000 Oh, it's the most enjoyable thing on Twitter right now.

01:08:22.000 Oh my gosh, let's talk about it.

01:08:23.000 What happened?

01:08:23.000 The left is melting down.

01:08:25.000 So, Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks criticized this non-profit for calling women's privates bonus holes.

01:08:34.000 And the reaction... Among others, because she had a problem with being called a birthing person and stuff like that. 0.91

01:08:38.000 But the latest one is that she criticized the organization for referring to female parts as bonus holes.

01:08:45.000 And what happened?

01:08:46.000 Many leftist commentators said she lied, made it up, it's propaganda and not real. 0.93

01:08:52.000 Shockingly insane and evil.

01:08:55.000 Anna is correct.

01:08:57.000 And I agree with her opinion.

01:08:59.000 However, I do find her to be duplicitous in that we've agreed with her and Cenk on so many things, but they always pretend to oppose us, which is the weirdest thing ever.

01:09:09.000 If she came in here and sat down, we would be like, you're completely right on all of your points.

01:09:12.000 100%.

01:09:12.000 Yep.

01:09:13.000 That's absolutely correct.

01:09:14.000 We agree.

01:09:14.000 We talked about the same thing.

01:09:15.000 The left comes out, calls her right wing, calls him shills, and says no one's referring to it as bonus holes.

01:09:20.000 So she tweets the link to it saying, here's the organization calling women's parts bonus holes.

01:09:26.000 And they still claim she's lying.

01:09:29.000 Because there's two big components to what the left commentary does.

01:09:33.000 Lie about what's actually happening because they're ideologues who believe there's no truth but power.

01:09:37.000 So they're justified in their lies to gain power.

01:09:40.000 Or they're saying whatever they think is in opposition to the right.

01:09:46.000 So if anything criticizes them, they're on the other side of it.

01:09:49.000 If anyone says this book is bad, then the book must be good.

01:09:53.000 So when Anna comes out and says, don't call me a birthing person, or having a bonus hole, they say, you're lying, that never happened, or you're right wing. 0.97

01:10:02.000 I noticed that same thing with Ilad's footage of the people that were marching saying, we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children.

01:10:09.000 And in the comments, they're like, no, no, that was just a moment at the march where there was somebody inciting that thing.

01:10:16.000 Someone got in the way and started that chant.

01:10:18.000 They weren't really saying that.

01:10:18.000 And I'm like, I just watched the video five times.

01:10:21.000 I saw him say it a lot, and there were a lot of people.

01:10:24.000 I don't have Any evidence that someone was there inciting that, and it just seemed like lies.

01:10:27.000 It was like a cognitive dissonant thing, like, I cannot accept this, I must lie, I must say it didn't happen.

01:10:32.000 It's that cycle where first they say, oh, it's not happening, it's just conspiracy theory, and they say, oh, it's sort of happening, it doesn't matter, and then they say, oh, it's a good thing it's happening, and that's what NBC eventually wrote, is that, oh, this is a time-honored chant among the homosexuals. 0.94

01:10:44.000 Chanting that they're coming for your children is a normal thing. 0.99

01:10:47.000 They always do that forever.

01:10:48.000 You should definitely get Anna to come on the Culture War show. 1.00

01:10:51.000 We've invited them.

01:10:53.000 Oh, on here, on IRL.

01:10:54.000 She'd be so fun.

01:10:55.000 No, on the Culture War show.

01:10:56.000 All of it, yeah.

01:10:58.000 Because especially with her making, apparently this is something that's been going on for a while.

01:11:03.000 She's been having disagreements.

01:11:06.000 She was on Sitch and Adam's Oh yeah.

01:11:09.000 I want to go on their show.

01:11:10.000 If you guys are listening.

01:11:11.000 They're looking to get in touch with you.

01:11:13.000 But she came out and she's said that, you know, the Kyle Rittenhouse case, she understands, you know, and she's on Kyle Rittenhouse's side, which is in opposition to Cenk's position.

01:11:28.000 She has an issue with being called.

01:11:30.000 A birthing person or a uterus haver or whatever. 0.98

01:11:32.000 So there's a lot of things that are going on on the left that she's started to have an issue with and you know kudos to her because she's taken a hell.

01:11:39.000 Like every other sane liberal person who realized what was going on became a disaffected liberal.

01:11:42.000 Yeah you know and and like I said kudos to her because she's taken a a ton of hell for it but you know the fact that she actually can acknowledge that look this is a lie and one of the things she said on the on the on Adam such an Adam stream was that People were gaslighting her, and she's like, I know that you're lying to me, and I can't believe that you're still continuing to gaslight me.

01:12:06.000 Because it's not about her, it's about the listeners.

01:12:10.000 So what a lot of these channels do, which, I'll leave, there's many of them, they just fabricate everything.

01:12:18.000 They don't care, either because they're ideologically or capitalistically driven.

01:12:22.000 It's really fascinating.

01:12:22.000 They're like, oh, I'm on the left, and they buy massive mansions in California.

01:12:26.000 Complete lies.

01:12:28.000 It's remarkable that you look to these prominent lefties who are talking about all this, you know, I believe in helping people and socialism, and it's like, oh, who have you supported and donated to?

01:12:38.000 How dare you?

01:12:41.000 And then you look to the quote-unquote right.

01:12:42.000 I love this thing about the pro-choice, pro-life argument.

01:12:45.000 When the pro-choicers lie all the time.

01:12:48.000 No, that's unfair.

01:12:49.000 It's not pro-choice.

01:12:50.000 It is the pro-abortion side and the pro-life side.

01:12:52.000 Because the pro-choicers are, like, in the middle and, like, typically not siding with conservatives on a lot of issues.

01:12:57.000 I mean, like, actual pro-choice, where they were, like, maybe within the first few weeks, but post-viability, no abortion.

01:13:01.000 The reasonable Democrat position from a while ago.

01:13:03.000 The pro-abortion crowd is just lying about everything.

01:13:07.000 I forgot exactly where I was going, but that's basically the gist of it.

01:13:11.000 You've got people who have found themselves silenced and in the middle as the left just says whatever it is is the opposite of the right and then lies about what's actually happening to wind power.

01:13:23.000 You take a look at post-birth abortion, how people are claiming that it's not actually happening, but they're legislating to be legal.

01:13:27.000 Oh yeah, all the media claiming that no one ever brought it up when Northam literally talked about even resuscitating the baby and then bring it to another room to decide what to do.

01:13:35.000 There's also a phenomenon of liars.

01:13:38.000 People that think it's good to lie, and they just do it.

01:13:40.000 I had a friend growing up, and granted, we were like 13 or 14 at the time, but we would play Dungeons and Dragons, and then he'd roll, and then he'd be like, no, I got a five.

01:13:48.000 I'd be like, dude, you just rolled a seven.

01:13:49.000 He'd be like, No, I had a 5, dude.

01:13:52.000 It was a 7!

01:13:53.000 Like, that's gaslighting.

01:13:54.000 But then we'd play with a third guy would come over, and he'd be like, no, it was a 5.

01:13:57.000 And we'd both be like, you're lying to us!

01:13:59.000 You just rolled a 7!

01:14:00.000 He's like, no, I rolled a 5.

01:14:02.000 And how do you get through to someone like that?

01:14:03.000 You couldn't. 0.96

01:14:04.000 They're evil.

01:14:05.000 ways and like ostracize.

01:14:07.000 The reason they can get through or get away with it is because whoever their audience

01:14:12.000 is, isn't a very narrow channel.

01:14:14.000 They're not like checking out a lefty on the Young Turks and I'll watch some pool and sort

01:14:17.000 of get both sides of the story.

01:14:18.000 Their audiences are completely locked in with people just like them and think like them.

01:14:23.000 So you like still have people this day, you know, yelling about January Sixers killing

01:14:27.000 five police officers that day, which, no, but they believe it because all their news

01:14:31.000 sources repeat that same lie and they're not exposed to anybody outside of that or.

01:14:35.000 Or when they get, like, they run to me, I say, oh, that's not true.

01:14:39.000 The only people that died were protesters, unarmed protesters.

01:14:42.000 Like, oh, you're lying.

01:14:42.000 That's not true.

01:14:44.000 So we have two different, I guess, realities.

01:14:46.000 So here's the issue I see with, like, the Young Turks. 1.00

01:14:50.000 I've known them for a very, very long time, like longer than ten years.

01:14:53.000 Back when he was a conservative?

01:14:55.000 Not when he was a conservative.

01:14:56.000 I remember, and they used to post, I guess they were, Jimmy Dore said this, I could be wrong, that they would post photos of like, upskirt shots or something like that.

01:15:04.000 I don't know if that's true or whatever, it's been a while.

01:15:06.000 Was that what it was?

01:15:07.000 No, that was Hassan.

01:15:09.000 Hassan Surgat doing a lot of stuff like that.

01:15:10.000 Hassan used to do that to us.

01:15:11.000 Hassan Piker used to be kind of like the upskirt.

01:15:14.000 Not exactly, I'm not going to say he did upskirt stuff, but he was like an early YouTube guy posting like, you know, edgy girls, edgy stuff.

01:15:20.000 He was a bro code.

01:15:22.000 Bro code kind of guy.

01:15:23.000 The Young Turks have some like dark stuff. 0.99

01:15:26.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:15:26.000 But what I think happened with them is they had a large audience.

01:15:30.000 The cultural shift started to happen in 2015 and they did not want to go against their own audience because Money was more important, so they just went along with whatever the current thing was, but eventually you break.

01:15:43.000 Eventually the left starts advocating for insane things like post-birth abortion, unrestricted abortion, calling women birthing persons and bonus hole havers, and eventually you're just like, this is insane!

01:15:56.000 The problem I have with the issue I take with the Young Turks is that They're still trying to pretend to be a part of whatever the left is.

01:16:05.000 Yeah, they'll say things like, well, we are on the left because we believe in universal health care.

01:16:07.000 It's like, oh, so do I, and I've talked about that quite a bit on this show.

01:16:11.000 They'll say, yeah, well, you know, we're pro-choice.

01:16:13.000 I'm like, that's funny.

01:16:13.000 So am I. We've had debates.

01:16:15.000 Me and Seamus discuss this all the time.

01:16:18.000 They're lying.

01:16:18.000 They're still lying.

01:16:20.000 Even though Anna is pushing back against lies on the left, they still lie and pretend that they're not in agreement with us on a lot of issues.

01:16:27.000 They still pretend to support things that are completely untrue.

01:16:30.000 Even when Anna says something that's correct, as soon as someone on the right compliments her or says, here's what you're right about, she'll come out and say, yeah, well, you know what, but I'm still not on the right and I disagree with you.

01:16:37.000 It's like, just stop.

01:16:39.000 This whole, like, desperate need to be on the left is so annoying.

01:16:44.000 That's why I'm like, you know, I'll try and define it.

01:16:46.000 What does it mean to be culture war right-wing, economically right-wing, or socially right-wing?

01:16:51.000 Definitions matter.

01:16:53.000 But I'll refer to this as the freedom faction or the culture war right.

01:16:57.000 Like, I don't care what you call it, so long as we understand what we're talking about.

01:17:00.000 Anyone that's like, I am a fill-in-the-blank, I'm a conservative, I'm a liberal, I'm a this, even I am an American, like, you are putting yourself in a box, man, and it is a dark hole.

01:17:10.000 You cannot see out of that thing.

01:17:12.000 But is it a bonus hole?

01:17:13.000 Probably.

01:17:14.000 I'd be willing to bet that on most issues, I'm to the left of Hasan Piker.

01:17:19.000 Hands down.

01:17:19.000 I hope he hears this.

01:17:21.000 I'd be willing to bet that if we actually had a discussion on issues, I would be to the left of him on a whole bunch of different issues.

01:17:27.000 I'm not.

01:17:27.000 But he would lie.

01:17:28.000 No, no.

01:17:29.000 He would lie.

01:17:30.000 This is my point.

01:17:31.000 Like, I'll put it this way.

01:17:33.000 If someone came to him and wanted to work on some project with him that he would finance, do you think he would actually give them the majority of the revenue generated from the project they worked on?

01:17:43.000 I believe the answer would be no.

01:17:45.000 I believe he'd be like, no way.

01:17:47.000 Absolutely not.

01:17:48.000 Whereas here, we often discuss how if we launch a project, the people working on that project will retain the majority of the revenue generated from it.

01:17:58.000 We seek to foster talent and help people grow.

01:18:02.000 I've publicly donated to several people in several causes.

01:18:06.000 I'm not trying to start beef with him or anything like that.

01:18:09.000 I'm just saying, I think these people are just entertainment personalities who will claim to support a thing like Ethan Klein or whatever.

01:18:15.000 They'll feign being on a political side for entertainment value.

01:18:19.000 But I guarantee you, If it ever came down to seizing the wealth of Hasan Piker, he would fight you tooth and nail.

01:18:25.000 He would take up arms against a communist revolution in two seconds to stop the seizure of his multi-million dollar mansion in California.

01:18:34.000 I don't know about that.

01:18:34.000 He's bourgeois.

01:18:35.000 Okay, he's bourgeois.

01:18:37.000 And I agree with you, I don't like talking about it, I don't want to cause drama, but Anna's awesome.

01:18:42.000 Remember that guy in California who was cheering on the rioting and posted a photo of the burning building?

01:18:46.000 And then as soon as they started marching towards Beverly Hills, he was like, No, don't come here!

01:18:50.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:18:52.000 So I'm not saying I know for sure, maybe I'm wrong about Hasan.

01:18:54.000 I don't watch a ton of his stuff.

01:18:56.000 But the fact that even when I've tried, like, when I've agreed with him and Ana, they still act like I'm wrong.

01:19:02.000 It's the weirdest thing ever.

01:19:03.000 Was it the way you agreed?

01:19:05.000 No.

01:19:05.000 It was too tonally angry when you said it.

01:19:07.000 I made a literal video where I was like, Hasan's totally right and everyone's wrong. 0.60

01:19:09.000 I'm gonna criticize him.

01:19:10.000 Here's why he's right.

01:19:10.000 He made a video laughing at me.

01:19:12.000 Oh, where you guys were, like, video response, picture-in-picture video response.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, that was funny, that was pretty cool.

01:19:16.000 But, like, he made a video, and then I responded to it saying he was correct in his assessment, here's why, and then he made a video saying that I was wrong about a bunch of things, and then laughing at some of the points.

01:19:26.000 I'm like, I don't understand, like, I'm agreeing with you.

01:19:28.000 It is fake.

01:19:29.000 It is good for money, dude.

01:19:30.000 The drama is good for clicks and views and ad revenue, but we gotta get to a point where we get past that.

01:19:35.000 Just shuffle it off like ballast and get up into orbit.

01:19:39.000 This is why I think the Culture War show, check it out at youtube.com slash TimCast, Friday mornings, 10am, is important because it's really hard for these people to pull this stuff off when they're live next to other people, which is why so many of the left refuse to come on shows live.

01:19:56.000 They know in their bubble world, like you were mentioning, where people, their audience isn't exposed to anything else, they can say whatever they want.

01:20:02.000 But when they're sitting here, everyone else can see them for who they really are.

01:20:05.000 Let's jump to this next story from Deadline, because we've got good news, and I'm really excited to cover this story.

01:20:11.000 Jim Caviezel's anti-child trafficking thriller, Sound of Freedom, notches $10 million pre-sales before July 4th.

01:20:17.000 And then we have this.

01:20:19.000 Sound of Freedom and Indiana Jones duke it out on July 4th for the number one spot.

01:20:24.000 Check this out.

01:20:26.000 Indiana Jones had $11.698 million over Sound of Freedom's $11.5 million.

01:20:35.000 Sound of Freedom was only a couple hundred thousand dollars away from being the number one film on the 4th of July.

01:20:40.000 There's a lot to consider here.

01:20:43.000 Indiana Jones made $83.7 million over the weekend, so most people who wanted to see the new Indiana Jones saw it over the weekend.

01:20:50.000 People aren't going to watch it twice on the 4th of July.

01:20:52.000 But still, the fact that an indie film is rivaling a major release only a few days later is tremendous.

01:21:00.000 Y'all should go see this movie for two big- for two reasons.

01:21:03.000 It's really good.

01:21:05.000 I think half the theater was crying for the first 45 minutes.

01:21:09.000 There's some really great story writing in there.

01:21:11.000 Really awesome stuff I'm not going to spoil.

01:21:13.000 The second reason is to help foster that parallel economy.

01:21:16.000 Supporting indie films that are outside of Hollywood so that industry can compete and flourish and we can push back against this garbage is extremely important.

01:21:24.000 I got some questions about Sound of Freedom.

01:21:25.000 You saw it.

01:21:26.000 Absolutely.

01:21:27.000 Amazing.

01:21:29.000 Is it a documentary?

01:21:30.000 No.

01:21:31.000 Does it talk about the cobalt mines in Africa?

01:21:33.000 No.

01:21:34.000 So it is specifically the story of Timothy Ballard, who was a U.S.

01:21:39.000 law enforcement, Homeland Security, and how he quit his job to go and rescue kids who were being trafficked.

01:21:44.000 Whoa.

01:21:45.000 And it is brutal.

01:21:48.000 And Jim plays, Jim Caviezel plays Ballard?

01:21:51.000 You know, uh... You're like... Like... Man, everybody in the theater was crying.

01:21:56.000 Like, non-stop, throughout the first 45 minutes, and then again, like, 10 minutes later.

01:22:00.000 There's parts where you get happy because the heroes are winning.

01:22:04.000 You stop crying.

01:22:05.000 And then it goes back to what's going on in this world, and you're just, like, fighting back tears.

01:22:10.000 You know, uh... A lot of... You know, say what you will about him.

01:22:12.000 He's a guy with, obviously, some flaws, but... Mel Gibson.

01:22:16.000 This is his film.

01:22:17.000 This is his?

01:22:18.000 Isn't it?

01:22:18.000 I don't know.

01:22:19.000 He's one of my favorite actors of all time.

01:22:20.000 Mel, come over.

01:22:20.000 I love him.

01:22:21.000 I know he's working on a documentary about, I think it's about Ukraine and trafficking and stuff like this, but I don't know.

01:22:28.000 I'm kind of worried about wanting to go to going to see this and then walking out of the theater wanting to go like hunt down pedophiles or something and being like so But that's the point of the film.

01:22:38.000 And by hunt down, the correct answer is support legitimate organizations that team up with international law enforcement to bring these people down.

01:22:45.000 This is what Ballard's organization does.

01:22:49.000 You want to stop these pedos and these traffickers?

01:22:51.000 And you want to get involved in that?

01:22:53.000 You watch this movie, and afterwards, that's exactly what I was thinking.

01:22:56.000 I was like, how are we not putting more money into stopping what's going on?

01:23:00.000 Because it is nightmarish.

01:23:03.000 It looks like Mel Gibson is not attached to this film, as far as I can tell.

01:23:06.000 Eduardo Verastegui is the producer, and we have Alejandro Monteverde as the director.

01:23:14.000 Written by Rod Bar and Alejandro himself, Monteverde.

01:23:17.000 So I don't think Mel is attached to this one.

01:23:20.000 Do you think, like, what ages do you think would be appropriate to see this?

01:23:25.000 Oof, 18 and up.

01:23:26.000 Really?

01:23:27.000 I mean, what's the rating on the movie, actually?

01:23:28.000 According to Jim Caviezel, Mel Gibson did weep when he saw the movie.

01:23:31.000 Oh, bro.

01:23:32.000 Like, everyone in the theater was crying.

01:23:33.000 There you go, that's what I was talking about.

01:23:35.000 Everyone in the theater is crying.

01:23:37.000 I will say this.

01:23:38.000 I was on the verge of tears.

01:23:41.000 I just fought them back.

01:23:44.000 But everyone around me is crying.

01:23:47.000 What was the rating?

01:23:48.000 I'm looking it up.

01:23:49.000 I don't see what the movie was rated.

01:23:52.000 It doesn't show anything explicit.

01:23:56.000 But it's heavily implied.

01:23:57.000 Like, you know what's happening.

01:23:58.000 There's a scene where there's a little girl in the bed, and a creepy guy walks in, and then it shows out the window and he closes the blinds.

01:24:04.000 Like, you get it.

01:24:05.000 A kid would understand what was going on, but an adult would.

01:24:07.000 I don't think you want to bring kids to this movie.

01:24:09.000 And it's such a universally repulsive thing that this movie attacks and goes after.

01:24:16.000 Even in prison, you hear stories that the people that get it worst, the worst criminals the world will turn on, is the people that get sent to prison for abusing children.

01:24:24.000 So it's like a universal thing, at least in our culture, that this is the lowest of the lowest.

01:24:30.000 I think the point of this film is that it's not really being taken as seriously as it should.

01:24:33.000 It's PG-13.

01:24:35.000 How do you redeem people like that?

01:24:35.000 Wow.

01:24:37.000 Pedophiles? 0.99

01:24:38.000 How do you redeem pedophiles? 0.65

01:24:39.000 How do you make them no longer pedophiles?

01:24:40.000 Yeah, I yeah, you're not like say it's the hardest thing obviously I'm not talking about except like well

01:24:45.000 No, no, they they they they I'm fairly certain that they found recidivism among child abusers is like

01:24:53.000 That's the worst part And then it's the people that have been abused as kids grow up and then they think either it's okay because it happened to them or there's some sort of weird... So like, breaking that cycle is what humanity needs to do.

01:25:05.000 Because we can't just kill ourselves off and stop it that way.

01:25:08.000 That's not effective.

01:25:08.000 You arrest them.

01:25:10.000 Well, that's one way you can slow it down.

01:25:12.000 I gotta tell you.

01:25:13.000 I want to say this.

01:25:14.000 When I was watching this movie, I started having a whole bunch of thoughts about the moral philosophy of crime and punishment and the appropriate solutions and how you deal with these people because there's a lot of people that have advocated for the death penalty for traffickers, especially, and for pedophiles.

01:25:31.000 You watch this movie and you'll go, I completely understand the moral position.

01:25:38.000 The issue is, and I'm watching this movie.

01:25:43.000 I don't want to spoil anything, but let me just tell you.

01:25:46.000 There's no mustache-twirling villain.

01:25:48.000 There's not a guy who's like, we're taking kids!

01:25:51.000 It's like, the scary thing is the banality of it.

01:25:54.000 The guy who grabs a little girl and throws her in a cargo box and then gets handed an envelope of cash and walks away like nothing happened.

01:26:01.000 The simplicity, the horror of it.

01:26:04.000 I thought to myself, what is the punishment for destroying humanity in this way?

01:26:10.000 And I understand why people say that Through due process, quite literally. 1.00

01:26:14.000 Like, I'm not gonna play any stupid games and talk bravado. 1.00

01:26:18.000 Like, you arrest them, and then they get sentenced to death. 1.00

01:26:22.000 My fear, as always, with the death penalty, is that innocent people will get caught up in it.

01:26:27.000 And if...

01:26:28.000 One percent of the people who are charged are innocent, put to death.

01:26:30.000 We have a very, very, very serious problem.

01:26:32.000 I side with the Founding Fathers Blackstones formulation.

01:26:36.000 But when you see this film, it really makes it difficult.

01:26:40.000 And I thought to myself, I don't think the Founding Fathers understood the massive scale of child sex trafficking and slavery that would be happening when they were like, we should be very, very concerned.

01:26:52.000 Or maybe the reality is they truly understood the depravity of evil in this world and understood the importance of innocent until proven guilty and, you know, due process rights.

01:27:00.000 But I gotta tell you, I don't know what the solution is, but when you see these crimes being perpetrated, I, oh man, I just gotta tell you, I understand why people advocate for amending the laws to have the death penalty for child exploitation.

01:27:18.000 You know, one place to start would be to get our government to stop perpetuating this, because you know that in Afghanistan, this is kind of a big part of that culture, and the United States went to war against a regime that was very bad, but did outlaw this, and we allied ourselves with one that perpetuated it, and we had our own soldiers suffering PTSD.

01:27:36.000 Because their allies would go in the next room and molest a child, and they were ordered not to do anything about it.

01:27:42.000 And then they had to come back with that, knowing that they were protecting those people and perpetuating that government.

01:27:46.000 And they still have to live with that, and God knows what the children over there have to go through.

01:27:50.000 There's a scene.

01:27:51.000 Man, I really don't want to spoil this movie.

01:27:53.000 But let me just tell you, so you can understand without spoiling the film.

01:27:58.000 This is about an undercover operation.

01:28:01.000 What do you think a person in an under... I shouldn't frame it like this.

01:28:06.000 The main character never does anything untoward.

01:28:09.000 But when you're in law enforcement...

01:28:12.000 Like, in the beginning of the movie, he's doing his job.

01:28:15.000 He has to review evidence.

01:28:16.000 And it's just, like, him crying the whole time.

01:28:19.000 And I'm just like... There's a scene in the trailer, so this is not a spoiler, where a guy's like, I cannot do this job.

01:28:26.000 And he, like, walks off.

01:28:28.000 It's like, yeah, dude, who could?

01:28:30.000 I'm surprised there's anybody who could stand that.

01:28:32.000 But if nobody does that job, these evil people get away with it.

01:28:38.000 And may turn other people into evil people.

01:28:42.000 That's the worst part about it is it affects children when they're young and then it can twist them early and... Dude, the writing is so good.

01:28:50.000 I, like, I want to spoil the movie so bad because I want to tell you just how good it was, but I can't.

01:28:55.000 I gotta wait.

01:28:56.000 I gotta wait.

01:28:57.000 I had a fantasy about interviewing Charles Manson before he died because I thought if we can somehow get through to the worst of the worst and let them tell their story and you see why they became that way, maybe that's like a step towards antidote.

01:29:08.000 You don't think someone like Manson actually has, like, Is sick because I I think that there are some people that are that have mental illness that are really really sick and they need They need to be taken out of regular society Not big not because I want to not want them to or I because I think that that they deserve to be punished or whatever but because they're actually sick there are medications that do help and

01:29:39.000 There are people that, if they don't take their medication, they do behave in ways that are unacceptable, they harm themselves, they'll harm other people.

01:29:48.000 So I don't know that I agree with the idea that you can Figure out what's wrong and just love them back to health.

01:29:58.000 I think there's a lot of mental illness that is really, really, really sick people that really need the medications that they're on.

01:30:06.000 And he's right, and he's right for an even bigger reason.

01:30:10.000 You and him being on the edge of tears watching that movie, the reason you're on the edge of tears,

01:30:14.000 the reason it makes you upset and angry is because you have something that is called empathy.

01:30:19.000 And empathy requires your ability to map somebody else's mind to sort of simulate

01:30:23.000 what they are feeling and what they're experiencing.

01:30:26.000 Some people do not have the capability to do that.

01:30:28.000 It usually tracks with being lower intelligence.

01:30:31.000 That's why you have so many criminals that are also not very intelligent.

01:30:34.000 And the reason is that they don't have the ability to think about how another person would feel

01:30:39.000 on the receiving end of their behavior.

01:30:40.000 They don't know how to do unto others as you'd like to do unto yourself.

01:30:44.000 They have no idea how to imagine how anybody else would feel.

01:30:46.000 They'll punch you in the face without thinking about it because it never prevents us in many ways from doing evil things.

01:30:51.000 Gosh, if somebody did that to me, I would be horrified.

01:30:53.000 And you empathize, so these people don't have the ability to do that, and it's not something you can really create.

01:30:58.000 You know, I think there's a simple way to view a movie like this.

01:31:03.000 In order for humans to survive, I'll put it in evolution terms, we protect children.

01:31:08.000 Why is it that a mama grizzly is going to maul you if you get too close to her babies? 1.00

01:31:13.000 Because of the love for her babies.

01:31:14.000 Why does that love exist?

01:31:16.000 Well, if we're going to simplify it in science, it's because if there is a species that does not care for its babies, it is less likely to procreate and survive and eventually will not exist.

01:31:25.000 So there's a couple different evolutionary strategies.

01:31:27.000 Bees just have tons of babies. 1.00

01:31:29.000 Just tons and tons and tons.

01:31:31.000 That's what they do.

01:31:31.000 Like bugs.

01:31:33.000 Rabbits run really fast, have lots of babies.

01:31:35.000 They do care about their young.

01:31:37.000 Mammals tend to.

01:31:38.000 Animals do.

01:31:38.000 Cats do.

01:31:40.000 When humans see children being exploited, abused in these horrifying ways, the overwhelming majority of humans have a natural anger and sadness response because we want to protect children.

01:31:53.000 We have to want it.

01:31:54.000 It's ingrained within us.

01:31:56.000 Dude.

01:31:57.000 You go see this movie.

01:31:59.000 The reason why I say- I give it a 10 out of 10.

01:32:01.000 Very few movies matter.

01:32:03.000 You go and watch a popcorn flick.

01:32:04.000 You go and watch Spider-Man.

01:32:05.000 You're like, that's fun.

01:32:06.000 You go and watch any one of these, you know, releases that have come out as of recent and it's just like Fast and the Furious.

01:32:12.000 I don't care about Fast and the Furious.

01:32:13.000 I mean, it's funny.

01:32:14.000 We joke about it. 0.68

01:32:15.000 It's silly.

01:32:16.000 You know, Vin Diesel's driving a car and the car is going to outer space with Ludacris or whatever and we're- and it's- and it's- and it's meaningless.

01:32:23.000 When you watch The Sound of Freedom, You're being told a story about something tremendous and meaningful that moves you in the real world.

01:32:31.000 These stories you hear about exploitation, based on a true story, obviously there's writing involved based on a true story, but they have real surveillance in this movie.

01:32:41.000 Like actual surveillance videos.

01:32:42.000 Not a part of the story, but they show it in like a certain kind, so you understand.

01:32:47.000 Like these things actually matter.

01:32:48.000 So you're watching a film, That is fiction, based on a true story, overwhelmingly true, but there's, like, obviously a lot of fiction in it, and the feelings you're getting are real emotions.

01:32:59.000 Whereas, like, when I'm rooting for Vin Diesel to defeat the bad guy, like, it's not a real fear.

01:33:03.000 I'm not really... I don't really care if he wins or not.

01:33:06.000 Once the movie's over, I'm gonna leave anyway.

01:33:08.000 I'm gonna leave and throw my popcorn in the garbage and be like, eh, and I'm gonna forget what happened to Vin Diesel a day later.

01:33:12.000 Mm-hmm.

01:33:13.000 This movie, you feel something about the real world that moves you.

01:33:16.000 And I'm like, that's why I think this movie is so good.

01:33:18.000 Not only was it really well produced, great music, great pacing, cinematography on par with any other Hollywood flick, which is impressive for an indie film.

01:33:26.000 It's like a story that makes you feel something real that actually matters.

01:33:29.000 It sounds like it's called The Sound of Freedom because freedom is not pleasant.

01:33:29.000 That's impressive.

01:33:35.000 It means you're aware of what's going on.

01:33:37.000 The name is related to the film.

01:33:39.000 You'll understand if you watch the movie.

01:33:40.000 You know, there's a precedence for what you're saying this film, what you hope it to be.

01:33:44.000 A couple of times I can think of one example was a novel called Uncle Tom's Cabin.

01:33:49.000 And that led to the freedom of the slaves.

01:33:51.000 And you know, whether you agree with this or not, Brokeback Mountain moved the needle on support for, call it, gay marriage.

01:33:59.000 And in the same way, perhaps this film will motivate us to take this problem much more seriously and do something about it.

01:34:04.000 Jim Caviezel says that.

01:34:05.000 He says that hopefully this film can be akin to Uncle Tom's Cabin and inspire people to do something about the slavery and trafficking that is currently happening around the world today.

01:34:17.000 There are more slaves in the world today than ever before, even when slavery was legal.

01:34:21.000 100%.

01:34:21.000 Yup.

01:34:23.000 Well, it is legal in Africa and the Congo, and I don't see these tech companies doing much to try to stop that.

01:34:28.000 So if you want to protect the slaves, you can do it in real time right now.

01:34:32.000 Also, the border.

01:34:33.000 We need to protect the kids coming across the border.

01:34:38.000 When I heard about this movie and people were saying, like, you should go see it, in no way did I think anything about it was a conservative movie or what was a faith-based movie.

01:34:47.000 I didn't hear anything about that.

01:34:48.000 I went and saw it and it was good.

01:34:50.000 And it's like, it's weird in the press.

01:34:53.000 Admittedly, a couple of outlets have praised the film, even saying, don't call it a conservative movie.

01:34:57.000 It's just a movie and it's really good.

01:34:59.000 And that's it.

01:35:00.000 There's a couple references to God in a very vague and nebulous way that doesn't even necessarily invoke religious connotations.

01:35:07.000 It's in the trailer, so I'm not, you know, spoiling anything.

01:35:09.000 It's actually the hashtag, God's Children Are Not For Sale.

01:35:12.000 That's why they thought it was a conservative movie, probably, because of that line.

01:35:15.000 But that's not even like an overtly religious thing.

01:35:17.000 It's like destiny.

01:35:19.000 There's a line about, you know, when God gives you the calling, and it's like, Yo, you don't have to be Christian or religious to understand concepts of fate and destiny.

01:35:30.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:31.000 Just because someone says the word, like, regular, like, secular people can understand what it means to have fate.

01:35:36.000 So, like, anyway, I'll say this.

01:35:37.000 You're not gonna get any religious stuff out of this film.

01:35:39.000 You know, if you are religious, you'll love it anyway, and if you're not, there's no deep preaching or anything in it.

01:35:44.000 It's just a good... It's like, uh...

01:35:46.000 I don't know, it's like any other law enforcement... Here's the crazy thing.

01:35:50.000 I've seen these movies about, like, fighting the cartels before, but, like, the issue in the story is not something you actually care about.

01:35:57.000 Like, you watch a movie where it's based on a true story, stopping this drug cartel, I'm like, I don't care about a drug cartel.

01:36:03.000 Yeah, awesome movie.

01:36:05.000 I care that we stop drug trafficking, I care that we stop these bad guys, but, like, the issue of pulling over a truck with a bunch of cocaine in it does not move me.

01:36:13.000 Watching a dude save a child and seeing the reaction.

01:36:17.000 These actors, these kids were really, really phenomenal.

01:36:20.000 Seeing that, it's like someone reaches into your soul and starts squeezing and you can feel it.

01:36:25.000 I guess I gotta say, you see that movie.

01:36:27.000 But let's go to Super Chats!

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01:36:35.000 The Members Only Show will be coming up at about 10 p.m., and we've got much, much more to talk about because there was a tragic incident that occurred these past couple of days, and we're gonna save this one because it could be spicy for the Members Only Show.

01:36:49.000 Alright.

01:36:51.000 NotYourBuddyGuy says, I am fully convinced leftism is civilizational cancer that metastasizes until the host ceases to exist.

01:36:59.000 Its values are the seven deadly sins.

01:37:01.000 We're not the first and won't be the last to face this threat.

01:37:05.000 I would say what we describe as leftism today, more so it's like wokeism and I guess what I'm trying to say is, if we're talking about left economic philosophy, a lot of it is really, really bad, but it's not absolute.

01:37:21.000 It's like yin-yang. 0.70

01:37:22.000 Within good, there's evil.

01:37:23.000 Within evil, there is good.

01:37:24.000 I think what we should clarify is, there is a cult that is an amalgam of weird leftist ideologies and economics that in many ways contradicts itself that is just burning things down.

01:37:37.000 That's how I see it.

01:37:39.000 Yes, that is important.

01:37:40.000 Mao used to denigrate the rightists.

01:37:42.000 He'd call them those on the right.

01:37:44.000 He actually called them rightists.

01:37:45.000 So this term leftist, be careful you don't become the enemy that you seek to quell by becoming the villain that's creating a lesser class. 0.90

01:37:52.000 It's really about the twisting of the left-right paradigm that is the problem.

01:37:57.000 Alright, Bellyflop says I've been really liberal for trans adults, but it's gotten to the point where it's not enough to be an ally, as they say.

01:38:04.000 You have to pick a gender flag. 0.92

01:38:06.000 Conversion Agent Smith style, me, me, me.

01:38:08.000 There's a photo going viral of a woman carrying an asexual pride flag.

01:38:13.000 And she says, asexual people deserve rights and representation.

01:38:17.000 We've been discriminated against.

01:38:19.000 And it's just like, no, you haven't.

01:38:22.000 Literally not true.

01:38:23.000 There's no persecution for people who are not having sex.

01:38:26.000 In fact, that was actually required of people, you know, a long time ago in society.

01:38:33.000 It was socially unacceptable to have sex.

01:38:35.000 You had to not, unless you were married.

01:38:37.000 So, like, it's not a thing.

01:38:39.000 But there's flags for everything, though.

01:38:42.000 Everybody wants a flag.

01:38:43.000 This is very strange.

01:38:46.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:38:47.000 says, Tim, I was going to wait until it dropped for home watch, but you've convinced me to see Sound of Freedom at a theater.

01:38:52.000 I hope all had a great start to MAGA month and a fun Independence Day holiday USA.

01:38:57.000 Absolutely.

01:38:59.000 Yes.

01:38:59.000 Amen.

01:39:00.000 I'm not your buddy guy says, I thought you were changing logos to US flag.

01:39:04.000 Yes, we have to do that.

01:39:05.000 I need to go in and find the I have the Twitter profile picture.

01:39:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:12.000 With the American flag.

01:39:13.000 Nice.

01:39:13.000 I think on Facebook you can just do it because it saves them.

01:39:16.000 Yeah.

01:39:16.000 But on Twitter I have to actually pull up the file.

01:39:18.000 But it is MAGA month.

01:39:19.000 I'll distribute a blue checkmark for a few days.

01:39:21.000 It is MAGA month.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, I wonder how that'll work considering we're an organization, though.

01:39:25.000 I don't know if it will.

01:39:26.000 For your personal account?

01:39:28.000 Well, because, like, we're all verified through a business account.

01:39:32.000 It's a different kind of verification, basically.

01:39:33.000 So, like, I could...

01:39:35.000 Because of our business account, I can add someone's name and instantly get a blue check.

01:39:39.000 So we should be able to just change photos.

01:39:40.000 I think you will be fine.

01:39:43.000 We will grab some more super chats.

01:39:46.000 Mind of a Madman says, I actually got to load some mortars for my family's fourth celebration.

01:39:49.000 It was awesome.

01:39:50.000 And I still have all my fingers.

01:39:52.000 You guys see that video of the backfire and all the fireworks in the car goes off and everyone's running?

01:39:57.000 I've seen some x-rays.

01:39:57.000 Oh yeah, I have.

01:39:59.000 Some hand x-rays of like eight of them or ten of them of what can go wrong.

01:40:02.000 That's wild.

01:40:03.000 I've seen it in real life.

01:40:03.000 It's scary.

01:40:05.000 Spencer Jones says, Happy birthday, America.

01:40:07.000 Met Tim Ballard a few years ago, a real life superhero.

01:40:10.000 Go see Sound of Freedom.

01:40:11.000 Donate to OUR, oh, you are, that's Underground Railroad.

01:40:14.000 It's the organization he founded to help save kids.

01:40:18.000 Yeah, really cool stuff, man.

01:40:20.000 Absolutely.

01:40:20.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:40:24.000 Uh-oh, we got some criticism for you, Matt.

01:40:26.000 Kevin Brady says, Is Matt going to suggest we buckle up again before nothing happens?

01:40:32.000 Yeah, great.

01:40:33.000 I mean, Look Ahead has been doing a lot of work.

01:40:35.000 Just because the media doesn't cover it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

01:40:37.000 We've obtained multiple convictions for voter frauds.

01:40:40.000 We've gotten voters who are illegitimate removed from voter lists all over the country.

01:40:45.000 We've introduced and gotten legislation passed all over the country that's helping secure the election.

01:40:50.000 Check out lookaheadamerica.org.

01:40:51.000 We're putting up new wins every day.

01:40:54.000 Right on.

01:40:55.000 Let's see what we got with some Super Chats.

01:40:59.000 J.R.

01:41:00.000 Williams in the regular chat with a blue bean.

01:41:02.000 He says, Tim has never read one of my super chats or super or SS's.

01:41:06.000 I don't know what SS stands for.

01:41:08.000 Well, I read that one, sir.

01:41:09.000 I read that one, sir.

01:41:10.000 I saw it.

01:41:11.000 SS is super sticker.

01:41:12.000 Super sticker.

01:41:13.000 That's what I thought.

01:41:14.000 But like, you can't read that.

01:41:15.000 Like, do I just feel like, you know, here is a picture of a purple puff ball jumping up and down and dancing.

01:41:22.000 I wonder if we could show it on the screen.

01:41:25.000 No.

01:41:25.000 I don't know how.

01:41:25.000 Yeah, we don't know how.

01:41:26.000 We can't do that.

01:41:28.000 What do we got with the ol' Super Chats?

01:41:30.000 MichaelTB says, you can't take cocaine or any drugs into the White House as a visitor.

01:41:34.000 Trust me on this.

01:41:34.000 I know for sure there are dogs in the visitor entrance.

01:41:37.000 Yeah.

01:41:38.000 No, for real.

01:41:38.000 Like, I had to go through, like, three layers of security when I went there.

01:41:41.000 This is insane.

01:41:41.000 Yeah, you need to, like, pass a background check before you go and everything.

01:41:45.000 Yeah.

01:41:46.000 It's pretty strenuous.

01:41:48.000 Christina H says, hi guys, any chance we will see Tim Ballard on the show soon?

01:41:52.000 I don't know, perhaps, perhaps.

01:41:54.000 We'll see.

01:41:56.000 We'll see.

01:41:57.000 Stay tuned.

01:41:59.000 Arashi Yoshida says, didn't Obama visit the White House in the past week or so?

01:42:04.000 That proves it.

01:42:04.000 Party time.

01:42:05.000 That proves it.

01:42:06.000 I saw a video of Hunter Biden, like, he looked like he was tweaking out.

01:42:09.000 I think it was at the 4th of July celebration.

01:42:11.000 Yeah.

01:42:11.000 You can see that video's only a couple seconds long.

01:42:13.000 Oh yeah, people are pointing and he looks like he's tweaking.

01:42:15.000 Raybert G. Stanbert Jr.

01:42:17.000 says, Tim, I'd just like to remind you of that working theory you had that Hunter is actually the hero of the story, trying to take his father down by destroying his reputation at every turn.

01:42:26.000 Yep.

01:42:27.000 Hunter's actually a very sound mind and he's like, my father is evil.

01:42:31.000 I will be the man who brings him down.

01:42:34.000 And then it's like his business partner, Devin Archer, whatever his name is, is like, don't do it.

01:42:37.000 You'll ruin your name.

01:42:38.000 And he's like, yes, but I'll save this country.

01:42:40.000 I'll do it.

01:42:41.000 He's undercover.

01:42:42.000 He's like, don't take the crack.

01:42:43.000 You'll get addicted to it.

01:42:44.000 I need to be the play of the role.

01:42:44.000 He's like, I have to.

01:42:47.000 It's the only way to save this country from my father.

01:42:52.000 I actually think Biden, Joe Biden, probably, I think he probably abused his kids.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, or neglected them.

01:42:59.000 I mean, you look at all the videos of Joe sniffing kids and stuff like that, and the fact that Hunter Biden allegedly called his dad, what did he call him, pedo-pete or something like that?

01:42:59.000 I think he abused them.

01:43:07.000 Well, there was a journal entry.

01:43:08.000 Right.

01:43:09.000 Right.

01:43:10.000 Right.

01:43:10.000 Oh, I know.

01:43:11.000 Ashley, from Ashley.

01:43:13.000 Inappropriate stuff, we'll just put it at that.

01:43:16.000 We will grab some more Super Chats.

01:43:18.000 RP says, Ian, I remember Roger the Boring Dispatcher.

01:43:21.000 Oh my gosh.

01:43:22.000 What is that?

01:43:22.000 A friend of mine, a YouTuber, 2006 and 7, he was an actual truck dispatcher and we used to make videos and kind of hated each other at first and then we became friends and then I wrote a song about him called Roger, which is out there.

01:43:32.000 It's on Amazon and all sorts of platforms.

01:43:35.000 All right.

01:43:36.000 He says, Tim, hire me just because.

01:43:38.000 We got a picture that just came in from Verdon Hurray.

01:43:41.000 I saw this, so I'm gonna read it now.

01:43:43.000 Listening from behind your guest, characterizing bottle workers as low-intelligent, innocent victims is elitist bigotry of low expectations.

01:43:50.000 These people don't need you to hold their hands.

01:43:54.000 I guess this guy's gonna take some of that money he threw at you and use a little bit more of it to give them jobs and help them pay their mortgages and keep their kids in school, etc.

01:44:03.000 Perhaps.

01:44:04.000 Yeah, I feel bad they lost their jobs, but it's like, If there's a dude building, you know, a tower of evil, I'm not gonna be like, oh, what a good guy.

01:44:11.000 It's so unfortunate that he has no job now that we've stopped the evil from building their tower, you know what I mean?

01:44:15.000 My concern is, like, as citizens of the United States, and we've, with our tax money, have supported the overseas wars, the CIA coups, and things like that.

01:44:22.000 Like, are we not part of this evil machine?

01:44:25.000 And, like, what if we lose our jobs?

01:44:26.000 What does that mean?

01:44:27.000 Because we're all taxpayers at this table, right?

01:44:29.000 Are we not part of the evil just as much as these workers in North Carolina?

01:44:34.000 By being taxpayers?

01:44:36.000 There's a big difference between being a taxpayer and working for Bud Light.

01:44:43.000 It's different, but I have a similar feeling when I think about what I'm supporting sometimes.

01:44:47.000 Would it be the righteous thing if that were to be stripped away from me as one of just the feeble workers of the system?

01:44:53.000 There's certainly a, uh, one thing I find very laughable is this idea that people are, are, uh, insulated from being a part of any one of these machines.

01:45:02.000 Like, yeah, we, we pay taxes to the United States, which does a whole bunch of really awful and evil things.

01:45:07.000 And the reality is if we wanted to, we could go and live in the wilderness.

01:45:11.000 And people often say like, well, you can't because everyone owns something.

01:45:13.000 It's like, dude, trust me.

01:45:14.000 If you want it to, you can go live in the wilderness.

01:45:15.000 Like nobody's going to find you.

01:45:17.000 Like, yeah, there's, there's a lot of no man's land, you know, you just, Do you really want to do it?

01:45:24.000 Most people don't want to do it.

01:45:25.000 And they won't.

01:45:26.000 And so they end up paying taxes and being part of a machine that does really, really awful things.

01:45:30.000 But I look at the United States and paying taxes to it not as like supporting abject evil.

01:45:37.000 I think the U.S.

01:45:38.000 does bad things, but I think the U.S.

01:45:39.000 is overwhelmingly good.

01:45:40.000 We just have to fight from within to fix it.

01:45:43.000 We have the means to do so.

01:45:45.000 The people who work at Bud Light, less so.

01:45:48.000 I mean, I'm sure the bottle plant workers who are subcontracted could complain, but Bud Light clearly doesn't care and has no interest.

01:45:54.000 The people in this country can ballot harvest, ballot chase, vote, and actually get Donald Trump elected again, and then he can start making those changes.

01:46:03.000 We have seen tremendous changes made through the United States.

01:46:05.000 So, it's not absolute.

01:46:07.000 There's absolutely problems in this country that we are a part of and we help support.

01:46:11.000 But my point is, you know, somebody built Mordor, you know what I mean?

01:46:17.000 And I'm not gonna be upset that they've lost their jobs because Mordor collapsed when the Ring fell into the fires of Mount Doom.

01:46:23.000 All those workers on the Death Star?

01:46:25.000 Yeah, seriously!

01:46:26.000 It's like a meme on the internet.

01:46:28.000 And it is, like, to be honest, like, that's different.

01:46:32.000 Luke Skywalker, like, straight up killed millions of people, like- True.

01:46:36.000 Left with the kids, fatherless.

01:46:39.000 Seriously, like, how many- the Death Star was a planet base, it was like a moon, and Luke Skywalker blew it up, and there were people there!

01:46:46.000 It's from clerks, they talk about the janitors and the contractors.

01:46:49.000 The contractors though, the thing is, when you work on the Death Star, you know you're working on the Death Star.

01:46:53.000 You're some guy that knocked your girl up out of high school, you decide to marry her, do the right thing, try to start a family, you take a job paying a little bit above minimum wage, and you're just filling bottles, and the next thing you know, some CEO who's never going to feel any pain at all from it does something dumb and suddenly you're out of- I have

01:47:12.000 sympathy. I just have tremendous sympathy.

01:47:14.000 The people who work on the Death Star don't think they're working on the Death Star.

01:47:17.000 Oh, you know you're working on the Death Star.

01:47:19.000 So you're saying that when someone gets hired by a contractor to build a building

01:47:23.000 for the government, they know they're evil.

01:47:25.000 There's a difference between putting on a uniform, taking a weapon, or going into a war zone and fixing a tank

01:47:32.000 in a war zone.

01:47:33.000 I think there's a- The Death Star was a military base in outer space that wasn't in enemy territory, anything like that.

01:47:38.000 And a guy gets hired to build, like, microwave panels for one of the rooms.

01:47:41.000 With an empire that is at war.

01:47:44.000 The United States is an empire.

01:47:46.000 Well the point is the clerk says that you have to accept for some hostility for where you go to work

01:47:50.000 and my standard for people being a technical contractor going under the Death Star that you

01:47:54.000 know has a giant weapon that's going to blow up planets. Or did they?

01:47:57.000 I think they saw the- I bet the empire told them it was called Happyville.

01:48:02.000 The Death Star name is only the rebels that gave it that name.

01:48:05.000 Well, yeah, it's Propaganda Man.

01:48:06.000 They probably called it, like, the USS Liberty or something.

01:48:10.000 But the clerk's example was, the second part is that a contractor knows a guy is a mobster and turns down a job to fix the roofing on his house because he knows he's a mobster.

01:48:18.000 Whereas he could have just been greedy and said, yes, he's going to pay me twice what I normally get.

01:48:22.000 I'll go.

01:48:22.000 He said, no, I'm not going to do it.

01:48:24.000 And that was the guy who overheard the conversation, interrupts, saying, you know, actually those people who take the job on the Death Star, they should accept some responsibility.

01:48:32.000 But I'm sorry, I just can't see a bottle working on the Death Star and working in a bottle plant for... Manhattan Project.

01:48:39.000 People did not know what they were building.

01:48:40.000 Nobody knew.

01:48:42.000 That's the famous story of how it was compartmentalized, and there were theories about what it could or couldn't be, but no one really knew for sure.

01:48:49.000 Once you get to the Death Star, and you look around and see the uniforms the people are wearing, you're not screaming, like, these are the bad guys.

01:48:54.000 I know you're a military, that's for sure.

01:48:56.000 The Empire, the people, the average citizen in the Empire still thought that they were living under the good guys.

01:49:04.000 The Republic.

01:49:05.000 Yeah, because in the beginning of Star Wars, of episode four, like they say, you know, we just dissolved the Senate.

01:49:14.000 The Imperius, the last vestiges of the old Republic have gone away.

01:49:17.000 So people didn't really know that it was the bad guys.

01:49:21.000 They were cheering for the end of the Republic.

01:49:24.000 And the Death Star already existed.

01:49:26.000 But are you not saying that the name Death Star didn't kind of give it away a little bit?

01:49:30.000 I don't imagine that the average person on... I don't think the average person... I don't think the people on Coruscant called it the Death Star.

01:49:38.000 Yeah, like the people working on it, it's like we're building a space station for the Empire.

01:49:42.000 The Preserver it was called.

01:49:43.000 And they probably called it, like, the Republic still existed when they were building it, and they probably said the Republic has commissioned a orbital space station.

01:49:49.000 And I'm installing a laser on it that can blow up an entire planet.

01:49:51.000 No, you're not installing a laser on it.

01:49:52.000 Who installed the laser?

01:49:54.000 You're saying one guy built the nuclear bomb.

01:49:55.000 One guy was like, I'm gonna build this all by myself.

01:49:57.000 You know if you're building a laser.

01:49:59.000 Maybe.

01:50:00.000 Maybe some of them knew.

01:50:01.000 Some of them didn't.

01:50:02.000 Are we not defending the contractors on the desk?

01:50:03.000 The highest, like, you actually had people like, you know, was it Oppenheimer who said,

01:50:08.000 I am become death?

01:50:09.000 Yeah.

01:50:10.000 Some of these people knew exactly what they were doing and said it, but the average person

01:50:13.000 working on the project had no idea.

01:50:15.000 So I'm saying this, look.

01:50:17.000 Are we now defending the work, the contractors on the desktops?

01:50:20.000 Absolutely.

01:50:21.000 Defending them in this, in this sense.

01:50:24.000 Well, how can you defend them and not the bottle plant workers?

01:50:26.000 No, no, no, let me finish.

01:50:27.000 Okay.

01:50:28.000 I did defend the bottle plant workers.

01:50:30.000 I am sad that they lost their jobs.

01:50:31.000 I don't blame them for what Bud Light did, but I'm not going to cry that they're no longer propping up the banality of evil.

01:50:38.000 The people working for the Death Star who were killed by Luke Skywalker in this terror campaign to blow up a military base. 0.95

01:50:45.000 Religious fundamentalists, crazies. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Religious fundamentalists on a terror campaign blowing up a military base. 0.99

01:50:50.000 Call it whatever you want.

01:50:52.000 There were people who did not know what was going on.

01:50:54.000 And, like you said, some people take responsibility for the things they choose to do.

01:50:58.000 If you don't know that you are providing a major component to a weapon of mass destruction,

01:51:03.000 I'm not going to be like, well, you know, you're absolved.

01:51:06.000 Like over two and a half million citizens of the Republic were on that space station

01:51:11.000 and they all lost their lives.

01:51:13.000 How can you say that that's okay?

01:51:15.000 How many civilian, like, but how many civilians who weren't working there?

01:51:19.000 Like what about people's families?

01:51:20.000 You know what I mean? 0.91

01:51:21.000 But anyway, I digress on the Star Wars point because it is a bit silly.

01:51:23.000 The point is, throughout history, there have been tyrannical regimes.

01:51:27.000 And there have been soldiers who marched along with those tyrannical regimes, doing jobs that we would describe as mundane.

01:51:35.000 Filing paperwork or mopping floors.

01:51:37.000 But these people still get held accountable for being a part of these regimes.

01:51:40.000 That's true, but the people who mostly suffer from these regimes are the people at the very bottom, with no say, no agency at all, who get grinded up in the gears of history and are forgotten and are turned to dust.

01:51:51.000 But that's immaterial to, like, we... Yes, absolutely.

01:51:55.000 The idea that the... I mean, look, there are wars where the kings or leaders of countries lose and then say, well, you know... Actually, I'll give you an example from The Patriot, Mel Gibson.

01:52:07.000 Love this movie.

01:52:08.000 When Mel Gibson starts taking out the officers of the British forces, he actually has a meeting with the guy and he's like, we want the cessation of, you know, the killing of officers.

01:52:19.000 And he goes, no.

01:52:20.000 So long as your officers are ordering the targeting of women and children, I will order my men to fire on them on sight.

01:52:26.000 The Cornwallis was like, you can't target the officers!

01:52:30.000 Like, we're special people!

01:52:31.000 And he was like, too bad.

01:52:33.000 Like, it has always been the case that the nobles will go to war and be like, well, you've bested me, shall we have a pint?

01:52:40.000 People- but look- We're not shooting the officers in this case, though.

01:52:43.000 We're shooting, like, the people who are, like, way behind the lines, maybe working supplies or something like that.

01:52:48.000 It's like, imagine you're- imagine it's the Civil War, and there's a bunch of Southern Confederates conscripted into the war, and they're marching on Gettysburg, and you're like, no, no, no, don't fire on them!

01:52:56.000 They don't know what they're doing!

01:52:57.000 Let them keep doing their thing.

01:52:58.000 Like, bro, they are the war. 0.99

01:53:01.000 Yeah, but if you just shoot the generals and a couple officers, they'll go home, back to their farms. 0.57

01:53:05.000 But that's not possible, because they're shielded. 0.71

01:53:06.000 Not in this case, but... So the issue is, the people at these bottling plants are the ones who make Bud Light the money, and are the ones responsible for all of it.

01:53:15.000 I don't blame them as individuals, but I am not going to cry that they lost their jobs.

01:53:20.000 We want... When we said, I hope Bud Light goes out of business, did people, like, not realize that meant they would lose their jobs?

01:53:29.000 I just wanted the executives who made the decisions to be fired and never employed again. 0.95

01:53:32.000 That's ridiculous, though! 0.92

01:53:34.000 That's never gonna happen! 0.80

01:53:35.000 But otherwise, like, you use the term collateral damage.

01:53:38.000 Well, look, the last person to be fired is going to be the people who are at the top.

01:53:44.000 I hear you.

01:53:45.000 I hear you.

01:53:45.000 When the company is a smoldering pile of economic figurative rubble, then they'll only be fired because there's no more money left, not because anybody fired them.

01:53:56.000 Who fires the boss? 0.99

01:53:57.000 The board?

01:53:58.000 The board and the CEO are going to protect each other, depending.

01:54:01.000 I really doubt they're going to go after him.

01:54:03.000 And it's the people who build the machine.

01:54:05.000 This idea that it's like, The machine is made by the individual laborers who all come together in this big, big swarm to make Bud Light possible.

01:54:15.000 So when we said that we hoped Bud Light would go out of business or be knocked down, quite literally we're saying thousands will lose their jobs.

01:54:25.000 That's pretty rough.

01:54:26.000 But I hear where you're coming from, I just have a point of disagreement with it.

01:54:29.000 Yeah, the job economy thing is kind of like, they use it as an excuse to propel crappy- My position is- The whole thing that everyone has to have a job is like- There is no circumstance where our boycott would lead to higher ups at Bud Light losing their jobs.

01:54:44.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:54:45.000 Didn't the people who made the decision lose their jobs?

01:54:47.000 A couple of marketing VPs.

01:54:49.000 But the person who actually made the decision.

01:54:50.000 Alyssa Heinershed, she's the one that actually made the decision.

01:54:53.000 So like one person lost their job and the company doubled down?

01:54:56.000 But it was one person's decision, ultimately.

01:54:58.000 So why is Bud Light still sponsoring all these Pride events?

01:55:01.000 I guess they need some more pressure.

01:55:03.000 All they did was do a PR stunt and ignored the problem.

01:55:07.000 But now the machine is actually crumbling, and that means when the machine crumbles, people who work on the machine lose their jobs.

01:55:15.000 There's no circumstance where the higher-ups of the company take responsibility for this.

01:55:19.000 I mean, look at the DeSantis campaign.

01:55:22.000 His supporters defend him when he does things that are bad.

01:55:24.000 He won't fire his press team.

01:55:26.000 It doesn't happen.

01:55:28.000 We want there to be accountability, but the idea that, like, It's just not the real world.

01:55:35.000 The real world is that Bud Light is made by individuals to the tens of thousands.

01:55:39.000 The only way Bud Light stops getting made is if those individuals stop working to make Bud Light.

01:55:44.000 You can fire the CEO, they'll hire a new one. 0.84

01:55:46.000 You can fire that Alyssa Heiner, Shida, whatever her name is, and they still keep sponsoring the project. 0.98

01:55:52.000 But if these people had quit their job, they just would have been replaced.

01:55:54.000 And honestly, these jobs are less than 10 years away from complete automation anyway.

01:55:59.000 You're right, they would be replaced, except if you get the plant to shut down completely, which happened.

01:56:02.000 Well, they'll find another plant, Capital will find it.

01:56:05.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:56:06.000 They're not finding another plant.

01:56:07.000 The plant's shut down because no one's buying the beer and the bottles aren't going anywhere.

01:56:10.000 Do you guys know?

01:56:10.000 Where was the plant?

01:56:11.000 Louisiana.

01:56:12.000 The point is this.

01:56:14.000 They didn't shut the plants down because of cost.

01:56:16.000 They shut it down because nobody is buying the beer.

01:56:19.000 You can't make product people won't buy.

01:56:21.000 Right, but your position is like, if you're a worker at this plant, you should have been paying attention to social media and caught way ahead of the outrage.

01:56:26.000 Yes. 0.97

01:56:27.000 Hey, they're about to release a can with a transgender person. 1.00

01:56:30.000 You had three months notice afterwards when the boycott started to start looking for work elsewhere.

01:56:30.000 Not about to.

01:56:35.000 It's kind of like people that didn't know to get their money out of the stock market before the Great Depression.

01:56:39.000 I have compassion for those people, but they lost their money.

01:56:42.000 Almost no one did.

01:56:43.000 Because they didn't know.

01:56:44.000 Some people knew.

01:56:45.000 Some people got out and put cash in their backyard.

01:56:47.000 Some people bought hard assets.

01:56:49.000 I do not accept the argument that people are not responsible for their own lives.

01:56:54.000 I remember when I was a little kid, I was late to school one day because a train came.

01:56:58.000 And when I got to school, they marked me late, and I had to tell my parents and get a form signed.

01:57:03.000 My dad said, why are you late?

01:57:04.000 And I said, well, it wasn't my fault.

01:57:06.000 There was a train.

01:57:07.000 And he said, you know the train tracks are there.

01:57:09.000 That's your fault.

01:57:11.000 You should have left early to not get stopped by the train.

01:57:14.000 How old were you?

01:57:15.000 Thirteen.

01:57:16.000 Would they have held you to that account if you were five or six?

01:57:19.000 walking by myself? You're talking about 40 and 40 year old men.

01:57:23.000 But again, there's an age at which, or there's certain look, yeah, the guy's working at the bottom line is four years

01:57:29.000 old.

01:57:29.000 Yeah. But the bottom line is that every American, every person here, I think believes in justice.

01:57:36.000 And when somebody makes a bad decision that they're the people that ultimately need to

01:57:40.000 be held accountable for it. Whereas people who had no man, they get home at the end of the day,

01:57:44.000 they spend a little time with their kids, their wife, they have a nice, maybe one beer and a nice

01:57:49.000 there and they go they're not paying attention.

01:57:51.000 I'm glad they lost their jobs.

01:57:53.000 The idea that you could ignore your civic responsibilities and not know what you're building is absurd to me.

01:58:01.000 There was one can that was issued as a promotion and it blew up.

01:58:03.000 That is incorrect.

01:58:05.000 Dylan Mulvaney sponsored a contest, drinking several beers, and put out a- It was not- See, this is the lie the media put out.

01:58:13.000 It was one promotional, I can't- No.

01:58:15.000 Dylan Mulvaney made a video with a bunch of beers, and it said, support this contest, or something like that, and drank the beers, and Dylan Mulvaney said that they were hired by Bud Light, and then Bud Light basically abandoned them.

01:58:26.000 So if the issue is Bud Light decided to do this thing, and it caused a backlash, and Bud Light refuses to apologize, doubles down on sponsoring more of these events over and over again where nude men are dancing and thrusting in front of children, which they did, and it keeps happening, and you are working at a plant that makes Bud Light, and you're like, well, I don't care, I'm getting paid.

01:58:44.000 I'm glad you got fired.

01:58:45.000 I hear you.

01:58:46.000 Every person has a civic responsibility.

01:58:49.000 This is the frustrating thing to me.

01:58:51.000 Going to West Virginia, 86% supporting Trump, and the people there don't pay attention, don't vote, don't organize, they do nothing.

01:59:01.000 To a certain extent, I don't blame people for not wanting to jump into this political conflict, but we need to recognize that individuals have responsibility to their country, to their families, to their communities, and it is being abandoned too often by the right, but the left revels in their cult-like behavior.

01:59:19.000 That's why they gain so much ground.

01:59:21.000 So for Bud Light to do this, and for people to be like, well, it's been two months, Bud Light's doubling down, people are mad, sales are dropping, every week we can see... I'm gonna keep working here.

01:59:30.000 Sorry.

01:59:31.000 I just don't think these people had any awareness, and it's unreasonable to have that expectation.

01:59:35.000 That's why it's their fault.

01:59:36.000 I hear you, look...

01:59:37.000 You are technically right.

01:59:38.000 If you work for a company and they're doing things that could cause you to lose your job, you should say, yeah, there's a problem here.

01:59:46.000 I'm smart enough to recognize I need to kind of get it, or I have the options to, but a lot of these people, they just, so look.

01:59:53.000 I have a jobs program at Look Ahead America for people who have gotten out of prison for J6, because they've got two strikes against them. 0.99

02:00:01.000 They've committed a crime they've convicted, but they also have the burden of being a J6er, right? 1.00

02:00:06.000 Which makes it even harder to employ them.

02:00:07.000 And we promote, we try to find employers to place with them, and we try to find people that can, that have suffered from this who need help with employment.

02:00:14.000 And we do that at lookaheadamerica.org.

02:00:17.000 If you lost your job at this plant in North Carolina, we're going to open up this program for you to do our best to help you find a new job.

02:00:23.000 And if you're an employer in North Carolina, please sign up to help us.

02:00:27.000 I'm going to read one more super chat, it's a good one, and then we're going to go to the members show at TimCast.com.

02:00:31.000 Phalanx says, the Empire didn't call it the Death Star, it was called Project Stardust according to Rogue One.

02:00:36.000 Oh, nice!

02:00:38.000 So we're going to go to the members only show, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member, that's where the members show will be.

02:00:47.000 In a few minutes, you can follow the show at TimCast IRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:00:52.000 Matt, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:53.000 I do.

02:00:54.000 Look, mostly—sometimes I agree with people largely, and they say something I disagree with and just let it go, but sometimes they say something that's very dangerous.

02:01:02.000 And recently, Mike Lindell has done this.

02:01:05.000 And he initially did it in a conversation with what I consider a good friend, a great patriot, Scott Pressler.

02:01:09.000 Scott Pressler is advocating that we need an all-of-the-above strategy for voter turnout, that we need to encourage people to vote early, especially those who are not inclined already to show up and vote on Election Day.

02:01:20.000 And we see this happening again and again, and it's important that these people have their voices heard, and it's affecting the outcome of elections, whereas Mike Lindell, maybe best of intentions, but he's saying that no, we can't do that, and he says, you know, these people are 100% wrong.

02:01:33.000 He's quoted in the New York Times saying that we should only have same-day voting, shouldn't encourage people to do anything else.

02:01:38.000 Mike, I put my head on your pillow every night to sleep, but you're wrong about this, and I am challenging you to a debate.

02:01:45.000 You named the time and the place.

02:01:47.000 I think maybe we can do it here or on one of the other affiliated shows here at the TimCast World.

02:01:52.000 But I think you're wrong about this, and I think we need to have a public discussion about that between you and me.

02:01:57.000 And I welcome you anytime, anyplace to discuss the importance of this issue because it's going to have a big impact.

02:02:04.000 And anytime, Mike.

02:02:06.000 Let's do it.

02:02:07.000 We should have you guys on the Culture War. 0.95

02:02:10.000 I'd be happy to do it.

02:02:11.000 Mike Lindell!

02:02:12.000 Come on down to the Culture War podcast.

02:02:14.000 We'll get you guys and we'll talk about voting.

02:02:16.000 That'd be really fun.

02:02:18.000 Would love to do it.

02:02:18.000 We'll see if we can make that happen.

02:02:20.000 That'd be cool.

02:02:22.000 I think it'd be fun.

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02:02:36.000 And he is Matt Brainerd on Twitter.

02:02:38.000 Matt Brainerd, thanks for coming, man.

02:02:40.000 What's the name of your organization again?

02:02:42.000 The Joppa Day of the Jobs website.

02:02:43.000 Look Ahead America and the website is lookaheadamerica.org and it's lookaheadamerica.org slash jobs4j6.

02:02:53.000 Is it the number four or jobs4j6 spelled out?

02:02:57.000 Good question.

02:02:58.000 F-O-R. 1.00

02:02:58.000 Thanks. 1.00

02:02:58.000 Jobs4J6. 1.00

02:03:00.000 And if you're a J6er and you're having a hard time finding employment because you got all these strikes, we do have employers that are willing to give you a shot.

02:03:06.000 So, we've hooked up many people with employment and let us help you.

02:03:10.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:03:11.000 Great to see you again.

02:03:12.000 Also, special shout out to Conservative Dad's Ultra Ripe Beer.

02:03:14.000 I had, I think, six of them over the weekend, although it was a long weekend.

02:03:17.000 It might have been four or five.

02:03:19.000 It was a lot and it was very good.

02:03:20.000 I don't normally drink, but when I do, lately I've been drinking Conservative Dad's Ultra Ripe Beer.

02:03:25.000 We have it stocked in the fridge downstairs.

02:03:27.000 And also, I want to say goodbye.

02:03:29.000 Have a nice evening.

02:03:30.000 See you later.

02:03:32.000 That was a good one.

02:03:32.000 Thanks, guys.

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02:03:35.000 And remember, guys, it's not about how hard you get hit.

02:03:37.000 It's about how hard you get hit and continue to stand up and keep going.

02:03:40.000 So like you said, I feel bad for people losing their jobs, but people lose jobs.

02:03:44.000 That's life.

02:03:45.000 You have to get a new job.

02:03:46.000 It's on you.

02:03:47.000 It's your responsibility.

02:03:49.000 I hope they can find work.

02:03:49.000 Follow me on the internet.

02:03:50.000 I made a Threads thing because, I don't know, it's not gonna win.

02:03:53.000 It'll be done in a little while, but... Oh, Threads is out? 0.61

02:03:56.000 Uh, it came out today, so I made a stupid post saying, are y'all thready for this, or something, just because I wanted to make a joke.

02:04:02.000 Well, let's go to the members-only show! 0.54

02:04:04.000 So, head over to TimCast.com.

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