A man and his significant other were ambushed in Chicago and the woman was left for dead, but is in critical condition. A founder of a Democratic PAC responded to the news by saying, "Well, if it was a white guy, I'd have been agnostic on it."
00:00:00.000This past weekend, we saw a really horrifying tragedy happen in Chicago.
00:00:26.000There was a man and his significant other, this woman, were driving through the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago with a Puerto Rican flag when something happened where they got ambushed.
00:00:36.000They were dragged or fell out of the car and they were, well, the man was executed.
00:00:42.000The woman was left for dead but is in critical condition.
00:00:53.000But there is an interesting story that emerged from it.
00:00:55.000A founder of a Democrat PAC, political action committee, responded to Ann Coulter when she tweeted about this not appearing in the news by saying, And then realizing that he was wrong said, well, I was just saying that if it was a white guy, I'd have been agnostic on it, which is insane.
00:01:26.000When it comes to international conflict and fights, we regret that we even have to defend ourselves.
00:01:33.000When a police officer, when someone in the military, or even a regular homeowner is forced to defend themselves, it's a traumatic experience taking someone's life.
00:01:39.000Yet we have people right now on social media gloating and laughing about it.
00:01:43.000There's another event that happened too, especially if you've been following my channels you'd have seen this.
00:01:47.000A Pride event in Seattle is going to be charging white people reparations to attend.
00:01:52.000So this is all in line with the insanity that is Well, I should say the application of critical race theory.
00:01:59.000And we're hearing from so many people on the left just outright lying, saying schools aren't teaching this theory and things like that.
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00:02:40.000Ask anyone who knew me, they will stand up and agree that I was quite the advocate.
00:02:45.000You specialize in First Amendment law, or what is your specialty?
00:02:48.000Well, that's really where I have found myself now.
00:02:51.000I mean, I'm a civil or commercial litigator and most of my career has been representing parties involved in court battles that are not criminal law.
00:03:09.000And that covered a very, very wide range of topics, but one of the things that I was interested in early in my career was trademark law, which is something that appealed to me, maybe my artistic sensibility, all kinds of things.
00:03:23.000I got more involved in trademarks, and when the internet hit, I got increasingly involved in the use of intellectual property law as a way of Eliminating competition on the internet by claiming trademark infringement as a way to shut people up or copyright infringement as a way of shutting people up.
00:03:42.000I got more and more involved with First Amendment law.
00:03:46.000Also, as an Orthodox Jew, I was frequently called upon in my community to help out on religious liberties issues.
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00:08:09.000Misguided Embrace of Mob Justice Doesn't End Well for Bluecheck, who took on Ann Coulter.
00:08:14.000It's an excellent title of the article.
00:08:17.000But let's give you the gist of it, because we have the article here, and we have Ann Coulter.
00:08:20.000I mentioned this in the opening, but for those that are just joining in, There was a very serious tragedy where a man and his girlfriend were celebrating Puerto Rican Day and they were flying the flag.
00:08:31.000In the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago they got ambushed.
00:08:34.000Somehow they ended up outside of their car either dragged out or fell out and they were shot.
00:08:46.000But this blue checkmark on Twitter, the founder of a Democrat political action committee, said, and you forgot to mention that he was flying a Confederate flag and he was white, as if that somehow justified murdering a man in cold blood.
00:09:00.000And when people called him out, he was like, okay, I was wrong about the flag.
00:09:04.000But I was just saying if it was a white guy, like even doubling down, This is, to me, it's a shocking example of where we are today in mainstream politics.
00:09:20.000Maybe this is just what people have always thought.
00:09:22.000They just didn't have a venue to blast it out to the world.
00:09:25.000When Ann Coulter would appear on Fox News and say these things, this guy would probably be sitting in his lounge chair in his living room saying the exact same thing.
00:09:33.000It's only now that we can see what they think because they're willing to say it to everybody.
00:09:37.000I guess, truth be told, back then, without Twitter, they probably would have still been willing to say it.
00:09:41.000They just didn't have any way to do it.
00:09:43.000So maybe that's what's really happening, but earlier, Ron, you were mentioning that you're not even surprised by this, and it's like, not even news.
00:09:50.000No, I mean, it's news that he... that anyone noticed.
00:09:57.000I'll tell you, I mean, it's only a couple of clicks away from... Last night, you know, very often, so I have a... I don't have a Tim Pool kind of Twitter account, but I've got, you know, 130-some-odd thousand and a blue check.
00:10:19.000And often I will get into, you know, I'll scroll down into what looks like a fun scrum and say, you know, this looks like... I should be able to get a couple of good one-liners off here.
00:11:43.000But, I do have a lot of people who are interested in how Ron will deal with this issue, or with this comment, because they look to me for a certain kind of rhetorical leadership, we might call it.
00:11:58.000So I sort of started up with this guy, and he was absolutely... but you can find it all the time.
00:12:07.000You know, often I'll say, well, breaking and entering is actually not this.
00:12:43.000This was, frankly, I wouldn't want to say anything 2-2 out there that I've already said on Twitter, but I've said it.
00:12:54.000People are absolutely... I think, Tim, you absolutely nailed it.
00:12:59.000People just feel comfortable saying it now.
00:13:03.000Someone who thinks like that has always thought like that or they grew up in a house where mom and pop or mom or pop thought like that.
00:13:14.000I think that's the only thing that's changed.
00:13:16.000Well, I think it's possible that social media has driven these people insane in the sense of they like to talk about the rabbit hole, like these New York Times reporters and these NBC reporters.
00:13:26.000It's not true in the way they think it is.
00:13:28.000They're like, oh, YouTube's algorithm makes people go down a rabbit hole, which makes no sense because it's only ever politics, right?
00:13:34.000They make this claim that if someone watches a video on immigration, within a month they'll be, you know, far right or whatever.
00:13:39.000But if that were the case, there would be a rabbit hole for every subject.
00:13:43.000It's like you watch a cartoon about Batman, and then in a month you've got Batman posters all over your walls, and you're running around the city just like Batman.
00:13:49.000Well, I've become obsessed with World War I flamethrowers.
00:14:00.000What I do think happens, though, is communities can rile people up, and Twitter and Facebook are the actual culprit of radicalization, not so much YouTube.
00:14:07.000In fact, YouTube gives you a big mix, because it doesn't just send you down one direction.
00:14:12.000I will say, though, YouTube did have some element of this, where it's like, you get the same content over and over.
00:14:17.000I wouldn't say it radicalized you, other that it showed you the same thing over and over.
00:14:20.000On Twitter, you do get radicalized, because what happens is, you're looking for retweets, And everybody's constantly one-upping each other to be that top figure.
00:14:28.000The same thing is true with these blogs like BuzzFeed and with Vox and with Facebook.
00:14:32.000You're constantly trying to shock people into sharing content.
00:14:35.000YouTube doesn't have a direct share feature the way that Twitter and Facebook does.
00:14:38.000If you want to share a YouTube video...
00:14:40.000And you should share this one by taking the URL and posting it on Facebook and Twitter.
00:14:45.000This is why it's very, very difficult for YouTube-centric conversations to expand to a larger level.
00:14:51.000People who are watching this have to actually go into the URL, copy it, then paste it on another platform, or there's a share button they can click and then select a platform and then open up a window.
00:14:59.000And that platform may or may not preview well.
00:15:03.000And if it doesn't, it's dead on arrival.
00:15:05.000Now let's think about how Twitter and Facebook works with this, like, radicalization, this extremism, and this guy.
00:15:10.000I mean, this is literally a story about a guy going on Twitter saying it was okay for people to be executed.
00:15:18.000It's because when he tweets, he's hoping someone will hit the retweet button and on the spot relay his message to hundreds more.
00:15:27.000So, what happens is people keep trying to find what will get them attention.
00:15:32.000When they find it, they attack it like crazy, getting more and more retweets, going more and more insane.
00:15:37.000I want to suggest that it's not always such an intense thing.
00:15:41.000I think there's actually, in a way, what I want to say here is a little scarier even.
00:15:46.000If you tell me that people are going to say shocking things in order to get attention, And this goes back to the skinheads, the punks, using swastikas.
00:16:50.000But then, listen, if you knew how humble I was being describing it that way!
00:16:57.000But I had 6,000 tweets for the following tweet, a quote tweet of Biden announcing that he told the Russians the 16 things they absolutely positively can't do, and I said, is this a parody?
00:17:53.000So in other words, I think in a way that's worse because that's become, you know, a part of that, by the way, if you want to talk... Are you saying that Twitter is basically like a septic tank of bad ideas?
00:18:04.000Like people, you build up this idea waste and then onto Twitter and then everyone swims in it and basks in these ideas?
00:18:12.000I think we're gonna have to think about that a little bit.
00:18:15.000But I think you might be onto something.
00:18:55.000But we basically came upon the joke that there's no such thing as an ugly rabbit.
00:18:59.000It was like a cute animal that was killed.
00:19:01.000And so I googled it, ugly rabbit, and boy are there ugly rabbits.
00:19:05.000So I just tweeted, without comment, for no reason, a picture of a hairless rabbit eating kale, wearing a scarf, very silly looking, because that's my Twitter.
00:19:16.000And I love it because I tweet things and I get these very serious replies from these people like, you know, this is politics.
00:19:22.000And I'm like, bro, I just posted a picture of a hairless rabbit eating kale.
00:19:25.000Who do you think you're interacting with?
00:19:27.000Twitter is not the place for me to have a serious political conversation, but I'll, I'll post serious things there.
00:19:32.000No, it's like a waste pit of just like stupid things that I think I'm going to tweet.
00:23:19.000And especially the more powerless you are, the more of a mark sometimes you want to make.
00:23:25.000You know, a person who is well-adjusted and who has normal interaction with people makes a mark by making his children happy, by making his spouse happy, by, you know, there are lots of normal healthy ways to do it in an idealized, almost non-existent kind of existence.
00:23:41.000And then come the other, and some people need that less and some people need it more.
00:24:25.000There's an article going viral right now where in 2018 Newsweek was arguing that Hillary Clinton could still become president a year into Trump's presidency.
00:25:05.000So when they take away a massive amount of followers from you, And now imagine when they ban somebody.
00:25:11.000So I'm one of the people who gets DM'ed or emailed when someone gets banned because they think They think for a reason that does not exist, by the way, that I'm the guy who can help them.
00:26:02.000In my 40 years on this planet since 1963, my observation is that the concept of absolutely ignoring your customers for a private company that was not actually like a utility was Microsoft.
00:26:21.000The first company that made you buy an expensive something from them and that you had no expectation whatsoever that if you had a problem or a question that they were going to help you.
00:27:27.000So, what happens is, they can ban whoever they want, regardless of speech, because they are immunized from defamation, as well as, long story short, they won't have the immunity taken from them if they do moderate.
00:27:38.000However, what's been happening is, very obviously, most of the bans happen on the right or anti-establishment.
00:27:45.000Some of the bans happen on the left, but it's usually like anti-war, anti-establishment, leftist types.
00:27:50.000Now, the problem is many people on the right seem to think there's a distinction between a publisher and a platform as if it matters.
00:27:56.000The New York Times has the same protections as Twitter, but something interesting does arise out of this argument that I want to present to you.
00:28:03.000First, I'll start with the New York Times, for instance, right?
00:29:26.000They are now Putting content into the world for which they have the same responsibility as the New York Times.
00:29:38.000So if John Smith writes an article and the New York Times says, we're going to put that on the front page, the New York Times is responsible for the content in terms of defamation, slander, whatever, libel.
00:29:50.000If someone writes a tweet and then Twitter says, we're going to put this in our moments tab so everybody can see it.
00:29:55.000I'm curious as to what's the difference.
00:29:56.000Well, but what's the editorial... Okay, so you said they editorialize.
00:29:59.000It's a really... Well, let's... I want to make sure I clarify this.
00:30:03.000So, the What's Happening, they'll put an editorialization, but it's usually in reference to a series of tweets.
00:30:07.000So, I understand they're liable for what they write there.
00:30:10.000But, if I write an article for the New York Times, and then hand it to a guy, and he goes, I will publish this on the front page.
00:30:17.000New York Times assumes responsibility for the contents of that post.
00:30:20.000If someone tweets and Twitter goes, I am going to put this in the moments tabs that anyone who clicks it will see it front and center to hundreds of millions of people.
00:30:57.000If Ian wrote an article and posted it on his blog, and then I took the contents of that article and put it on the front page of my website, would I assume responsibility for publishing it?
00:31:12.000Or are you, this is Tim Poole, and these are the articles that I want you to read because... It appears on my front page identically to every other article.
00:31:24.000In other words, he licensed the article to you to publish it in your newspaper.
00:31:28.000So if on your Twitter account there's a retweet from Ian that appears identically to your other posts, would your retweet then be your responsibility as well?
00:31:39.000See, this is where there's a lot of questions that have never been asked, and we haven't seen people actually go to court and start challenging them.
00:31:44.000But this is one of the least important questions.
00:31:46.000See, and this, as you understand because you've spoken to Will about this, and this is like a favorite Ron and Will thing.
00:31:56.000It hardly matters, you know, the publisher versus platform distinction is mostly irrelevant because it has to do with to what extent is Twitter responsible for what people tweet?
00:32:10.000Meaning if I dethane you in a tweet, can you sue Twitter?
00:33:32.000sued Twitter, but Twitter is the last party in the defendant column.
00:33:39.000The first party is the Secretary of State of the state of California.
00:33:45.000Rogan got documents from Judicial Watch.
00:33:52.000Smoking gun documents showing that under the guise of election security, The state of California was sending, through a consultant, and in cooperation with 22 members of the National Association of Secretaries of State, all Democrats, sending tweets that were selected, I think, by the consultant, to Twitter, saying, this is misleading.
00:34:38.000A direct line from the government to the censorship.
00:34:44.000All we've heard about is you build your own Twitter.
00:34:49.000The government and Twitter are the same.
00:34:55.000The government, you know, there's been lots of talk about what kinds of accommodations have been made.
00:35:02.000We won't regulate you if you play ball.
00:35:05.000All this, that's all very sort of impressionistic.
00:35:09.000What we have here is specific political instructions from political activists telling Twitter, and they banned DC Drano has 2 million Instagram followers.
00:37:05.000People are complicated and they have, you know, and like, you know, we were talking before we went on, who's sticking their neck out for the movement versus who's sticking his neck out For his 401k, you know?
00:37:19.000And listen, most people are not... Most people are just interested in... I don't want to call it a grift.
00:37:36.000Because if there's one person I think is the real deal in terms of sticking his neck out and jumping into the fray, the tip of the spear, as it were.
00:37:46.000James O'Keefe is fighting the fight, and more so than most people.
00:38:26.000Uh, they say Project- well, not necessarily James O'Keefe specifically, they do smear him, but Project Veritas, they say it's far-right, it's an activist group, they produce deceptive video edits, you know, secret recordings, yadda yadda yadda, entrapment, um, generating bad publicity, it's propagating disinformation, conspiracy theories.
00:38:43.000Now all of these are- this page from Wikipedia.
00:38:50.000Wikipedia doesn't say it's the free opinion aggregator, it says it's the free encyclopedia, which is an actual definition of what an encyclopedia is.
00:38:59.000So I'm sure there's some kind of argument they can make, well, look, someone's opinion, you know, somebody chooses to cite it as a fact in here, that's not us.
00:39:07.000Here's the question I have working, it's interesting.
00:39:10.000If I post a tweet saying, James O'Keefe once ate a whole pizza by himself, A large pepperoni.
00:41:36.000So I'm not sure that that section 230 covers Wikipedia at all.
00:41:40.000I don't think it's an internet service provider.
00:41:42.000I don't know if that's been tested, but as you said, whom do you sue?
00:41:45.000The problem there is corporate accountability.
00:41:48.000Let me just point out, though, that the reason we care, I think that there's a consensus in the political and policy and internet part that we occupy.
00:42:25.000Google considers it a highly authoritative resource.
00:42:29.000That's why we have to break up Google.
00:42:32.000Because Google, which is not an internet service provider as such, it's a search engine, Google editorializes and manipulates results for political purposes.
00:42:44.000And it has a right to do it, just like people also know that Google's garbage.
00:42:49.000I don't want to say the name of the alternative search engine that I use because I don't want to hurt their business.
00:42:58.000So if I want to look up species of butterflies, it's fine.
00:43:01.000But if I really need to get information, I'm inevitably going to end up back at Google and having to use my super brain to get past the bias because these guys, their search engine's not as good.
00:43:19.000But, it's not the Wikipedia part, it's the way, and this is an aspect of network effects, it's the way that Wikipedia has been baked into Google, and so has Twitter.
00:43:34.000And there's been extremely little attention paid to the partnership between Google and Twitter.
00:43:39.000I see what you're saying about Wikipedia.
00:43:41.000If you Google search someone's name, there's a box that appears, and it has Wikipedia information, which could be completely made up.
00:43:46.000And there's been very funny stories about people having their Wikipedias changed by random users, and then it appears on Google, which then transfers to your Amazon or Google device, so you're at home, and then you'll ask your little computer, who was George Washington?
00:44:00.000And it'll be like, he was a pancake salesman, because somebody edited Wikipedia.
00:44:04.000The system's fairly fractured, if you know what I mean.
00:44:08.000I think the attack vector in terms of challenging this malfeasance is, sure, you could argue about breaking up Google, but sue Wikipedia.
00:44:18.000I mean, Lord knows they desperately need your donations.
00:44:25.000I know that I've seen the case captions.
00:44:27.000I think the issue with Wikipedia is I think they might actually, that the corporate home of Wikipedia is somewhere that's not in this country.
00:44:37.000It's in some country that isn't going to work out too well for litigation, something like that.
00:44:46.000And also one that probably is not as amenable to So let's think about the problem we're facing there.
00:45:00.000This is something that I've had a lot of concerns about going into the 2020 election.
00:45:04.000Twitter will ban a conservative for saying their opinion.
00:45:07.000An American citizen with a political opinion on Twitter will get banned, but an Australian citizen who has a contradictory opinion that supports the left will be allowed to get all the retweets in the world.
00:45:16.000So you actually have foreign influence, so long as it supports the agenda of one faction, gaining traction and being protected, while American citizens- I'll tell you this, Laura Loomer might be considered by many to be distasteful, or they don't like her, they think she's bombastic, or just, they really don't like her because, you know, because she's high energy, we'll call her that.
00:45:35.000She's an extremely enthusiastic young lady, yes.
00:45:38.000She's an American citizen who has a right to speak and be engaged in politics whether you like it or not, but she's removed from every platform.
00:45:44.000Meanwhile, I see it on Reddit every day.
00:45:46.000Someone will comment on American news and there's a little Australian, New Zealand flag, a Canadian flag, a Russian flag.
00:45:51.000Why do these people get to influence and be involved in our conversation but our own American citizens aren't allowed?
00:46:02.000And one of the things that we tried to argue, and the judges simply, they use Section 230 to just get rid of any, we don't think they're gonna be able to do this with the O'Hanley case, with the DC Drano case, because of the government action.
00:46:19.000But in Laura's case, our argument essentially was, You know, the First Amendment prohibits the government from censoring the speech of citizens.
00:48:25.000On the culmination podcast, I actually interviewed Representative Ken Buck last week, who has introduced a bill to do just that, and it's a bipartisan bill.
00:48:38.000It's a bipartisan bill, and it is more oriented towards antitrust enforcement than to censorship per se, but as we have just demonstrated, they're intimately related.
00:48:53.000Because if you have the only platform that matters, it doesn't matter whether I've got an alternative.
00:49:01.000I can go into the room with all the beanbags in it downstairs to scream my head off, so I have freedom of speech, but no one's going to hear me.
00:49:09.000So after I get you canceled because of this, you know, episode of Tim in Real Life, that's going to be the same thing for you.
00:49:17.000Imagine if before the internet, Fox News kept putting Vladimir Putin on primetime to talk about how Americans should vote and people listened and they voted the way he said.
00:49:29.000You know, we couldn't imagine something like that happening.
00:49:32.000Then we get four or five years of them screaming that Donald Trump was the benefactor of just that.
00:49:38.000Well, quite literally, there are foreign governments influencing through social media, either investing in companies and getting some say in them, or actually just being extremely wealthy foreign... high-ranking officials, put it that way, political figures, making demands and promising favors.
00:49:54.000Our political system is corrupted, if that's the case.
00:49:56.000And I don't see why, you know, even if, you know, Ken Buck does propose this legislation, I'm not confident, for one, that Democrats would want to give up the freebies they're getting, and the Republicans are too stupid to do anything about it.
00:50:08.000So there are a couple things going on.
00:50:09.000I asked him, why are Democrats in on this?
00:50:12.000And I think he acknowledged their concerns are not the same concerns as ours.
00:50:16.000But there is, to some extent, I think he agreed with my suggestion that now that Trump is gone, whatever that really means, I mean, I think we all understand that he is running the country from a nuclear submarine off the coast.
00:50:34.000Although many people who are banned from Twitter would probably wish.
00:51:15.000I'm especially going to get you're talking about asking the Democrats why they were in on it.
00:51:19.000So there I think the world is a little bit safer for Democrats to actually be Democrats when they don't have to merely oppose something because it benefits Donald Trump.
00:51:36.000I'm not still sure why there's some, why there seems, I mean, Biden appointed as head of the Federal Trade Commission, so everybody understands, right?
00:51:48.000government that are mainly in charge of antitrust enforcement.
00:51:52.000One is the Antitrust Division of the Justice Department.
00:51:56.000Which is a relatively more political agency compared to the Federal Trade Commission, which focuses more on mergers and acquisitions, but which is also involved in industry shares and domination, because that's obviously part and parcel of acquisitions.
00:52:18.000That's traditionally considered to be a less political agency.
00:52:21.000Biden appointed, and she was approved, as FTC Commissioner a woman who has a reputation as being a critic of big tech.
00:52:33.000Those of us, such as myself, who have been saying for six months that Joe Biden is what is called in Hebrew a golem, meaning basically a zombie.
00:53:22.000And seize these global corporations, because remember, to a real progressive, a preposterous term, to a real leftist, the state has to have all the power.
00:53:36.000Even if you tell me, well, but no, but Google and all these technology companies have been integrated into their state.
00:53:49.000Well, this is the best they're going to get.
00:53:50.000I mean, the government can't literally censor, but they can do this highly circuitous method, which, you know, you're now suing over.
00:53:56.000Right, so if that's the case, if there actually might be some sort of bipartisan, so what we see though is that, so today there was a tweet from Congressman Jordan, Tim Jordan, saying, why would I want to give Joe Biden's regulators more power over business?
00:55:40.000So not only do the Republicans very rarely ever actually propose anything for their constituents, but when you finally get someone who does, Marjorie Taylor Greene, they're actively attacking her from the Republican Party.
00:55:59.000I mean, listen, if Harmeet were sitting here, my partner, Harmeet Dhillon, says she's a big muckety-muck in the Republican Party, but I'm not, and she knows that I'm not.
00:56:08.000So I have to be gentle, but I don't have to be as... Actually, she's not so gentle either.
00:56:14.000I will tell you that Marjorie Taylor Greene... I had a column in The Forward, which is a Jewish publication.
00:56:24.000It used to be the predominant Yiddish language Jewish newspaper in New York, explaining that when Marjorie Taylor Greene said about The vaccination badges being equivalent to the yellow stars that the Jews had to wear in pre-war Europe.
00:56:43.000I'm sorry, during the war in Germany, also pre-war Germany.
00:57:08.000Everyone made that because they were drawing red lines around Jewish neighborhoods and Jewish synagogues in places like Rockland County, New York.
00:57:46.000Everyone knew what was going on and the reference to being treated like, you know, Jews in a ghetto was ubiquitous.
00:57:57.000And these people who were all of a sudden standing up and offended by Marjorie Taylor Greene, Where were they when Israel's compared to the Nazis?
00:58:29.000All of a sudden they're like, Jumping out of the woodwork to clutch other people's pearls about religion they never liked in the first place.
00:58:49.000These are people who rag on the church all day and night, now flabbergasted and outraged and making demands.
00:58:57.000And I'm just like, You know what, man?
00:58:59.000I, I, I, I, these, these people who are active on Twitter in these arguments, they can't possibly believe the things they're saying, can they?
00:59:09.000Like, how do you, how do you rag on Christianity over and over again?
00:59:14.000There's entire Reddits, subreddits dedicated to this, and then all of a sudden now be outraged that Joe Biden has been denied his communion.
00:59:20.000Well, you know, I had a recent opportunity to, to, to wade into those waters myself recently when somebody said, Well, nobody really believes in Leviticus anymore.
00:59:57.000Because, you know, about seven or eight years ago, I think it is now, they made a change to Twitter to reduce conflict.
01:00:07.000And they enhanced the siloization, the ghettoization of Twitter.
01:00:13.000And to some extent it has reduced conflict.
01:00:15.000I think it's not, there's something to be said for what they did.
01:00:18.000Because you're not always fighting with people.
01:00:21.000On the other hand, you don't want it to be like Parlor where it's just a bunch of people nonstop screaming MAGA MAGA, you know, it's completely it's boring.
01:00:28.000It's I mean, but what they did was that was People really reinforced their prejudices.
01:00:41.000And there's this constant bias confirmation.
01:00:44.000And it doesn't have to come from new facts.
01:01:14.000And the reason they kicked him off Twitter was because of a copyright claim that had supposedly been made against him because he did a meme with the two little kids, the white toddler and the black toddler.
01:01:30.000They just needed an excuse to get him off Twitter.
01:01:34.000So the people who made the claim, the original people who made that video, sued Carpe in New York State Court, Logan Cook, for this preposterous series of claims that he was misleading and basically everything but defamation, but it was basically defamation, defaming these two little toddlers.
01:02:38.000First one of the Donald everything Donald Trump.
01:02:41.000Oh, so one of our defenses was this can't be a violation of sections 1551 of the New York Civil Rights Law because those only deal with the misappropriation of a person's likeness in connection with a sale or advertisement or product or good.
01:03:03.000And they said no because really he did it to please his master Donald Trump, completely made up.
01:03:09.000And Trump, it's well established that everything Trump did during his presidency was meant to enrich him personally.
01:03:17.000And the judge looked at this guy, now to be a judge in New York, in the state of New York, in the city of New York, in the county of New York, you're a Democrat, okay?
01:03:28.000He looked at this guy as if he were from Mars.
01:03:32.000You're saying everything Donald Trump did.
01:05:50.000If you're going to make a semantic argument about integers and what determines 2 plus 2 equaling 4 or 5, how do you function on a day-to-day basis?
01:06:44.000We need a strong defense in a dangerous world, but also all taxes, theft, etc.
01:06:48.000All of these are parasitic on someone else being the adult.
01:06:52.000I agree with him that the woke do not believe any of their ideology.
01:06:57.000And I don't know of anybody who identifies as an eagle, so I don't know what that's a reference to.
01:07:03.000But I understand the point he's trying to make, to a certain degree.
01:07:06.000I do think the 2 plus 2 equaling 5 is a good point to be made.
01:07:10.000Because it is a hill they're absolutely willing to die on.
01:07:14.000Where now you have, I think, like an MIT mathematician coming out making a video explaining how 2 plus 2 could equal 5.
01:07:20.000And if that's an assumption you could make, then at what point in your taxes do you say, I think this one's gonna be a 4 and that one's gonna be a 5?
01:07:29.000One is that because what we're calling the Wokeness Initiative, I added the word initiative, the initiative of what we're calling Wokeness is destructive and subversive.
01:07:48.000They want to live in a world where they can say to the IRS, Oh no, I say it's five.
01:07:54.000And to say I'm wrong makes you a racist.
01:09:10.000You know what I've said a million times and no one ever retweets it because they're afraid?
01:09:18.000If all these white chicks, and they're mostly chicks, hating themselves for being white, hating themselves for being, hating whiteness and wishing, if they woke up They would walk right out the window.
01:09:50.000If I'm wrong, then there is not actually systemic racism.
01:09:59.000And if I'm right that there is systemic racism, we see that the systemic racism makes hypocrites out of all these people bemoaning their whiteness.
01:10:11.000I don't think that... The way I described it last week is I don't think they actually believe this stuff because it's impossible to believe two contradictory things at the same time.
01:10:19.000Unless, of course, we're suggesting they're suffering from cognitive dissonance.
01:10:23.000These are the kind of people that will say, the sky is blue and the sky is green to your face in the same sentence.
01:10:28.000They can't simultaneously... Well, do what you say.
01:10:31.000Say that they are racists, and that racists are bad, but they are good.
01:10:38.000You ever see those videos where it's like a white guy's like on TikTok, and he's like telling everybody how racist he is?
01:10:42.000If anybody ever came up to me, a white person, and started talking about critical race theory or critical theory, and then said that they were a racist, I'd be like, and now you can stop talking because you're a racist, and it's time for you to sit down to listen.
01:10:54.000Congratulations, your own ideology says shut up.
01:11:22.000We had this story out of Seattle that I'll just pull up.
01:11:25.000Reparations fee to be charged for white people at Seattle Gay Pride event.
01:11:30.000Well, we're now hearing the Seattle Human Rights Commission has dismissed the complaint, saying that, well, you know, you got to look at history and recognize that this is actually okay.
01:14:18.000Do you think that this, this HR, let me tell you this, you got an HR director, middle-aged white woman, and she's given a brochure about diversity initiatives.
01:15:04.000You can grift, and here it is used properly, you can grift from this system, this ecosystem of grievance and fiction and whatever it is, and be white.
01:15:20.000But you can't push back against it and be white.
01:16:26.000I'm going to report you to the EEOC if you say one more word, you bigot!
01:16:30.000I am not going to sit here and listen to you talk about your white supremacist views in front of me and after everything my family's been through!
01:16:36.000Say it one more time and I will go to your boss!
01:19:11.000I mean it was disparaging things about race.
01:19:12.000They were talking about how races are better than others.
01:19:14.000Mr. Poole, please, when you have a chance, when you cool down a little bit, write down the comments for us, because we can't proceed unless we have a detailed explanation of what was made.
01:19:25.000And also give us the names of everyone else who was at the meeting.
01:19:27.000We can describe what these comments were, and we will then send it over to the very big warehouse over there where they keep the Ark of the Covenant.
01:19:35.000And we'll get back to you as soon as possible.
01:19:38.000So let me ask you, why is it that when I went to these agencies on more than one, on two occasions, and did exactly as I describe, it worked?
01:21:19.000Companies have changed, not in 13 years, not in three years, in two years.
01:21:27.000A close family member of mine worked in Microsoft and said, you know, as big corporations go, they have their kind of mandatory mealy mouth, you know, stuff about diversity, but it's pretty cool.
01:21:39.000I've got a feeling things are really done here.
01:21:41.000In the last two years, it turned into a nightmare.
01:22:45.000Some of them are, you know, we give money to this, you know, affirmative action program.
01:22:57.000We just can't and you know I understand if you've got a law firm that you've built up over 50 or 100 years and you're an equity partner in that organization and you have a stake in it and Ron Coleman wants to sweep in and be the guy who's gonna show the world that Gavin McInnes isn't Isn't a racist or an extremist.
01:23:24.000Or show the world that Gab is entitled to sue Google because they are monopolists.
01:23:32.000Well, maybe, Ron, you might want to do that.
01:23:34.000You might even be right, but it's working very well for the rest of us to not do that.
01:24:01.000So I'm curious, like, these firms you describe, they're very worried about the threats or accusations.
01:24:09.000Couldn't anyone of any political persuasion just weaponize that by claiming, I'm going to accuse you of it, what are you going to do about it?
01:24:15.000I mean, you don't say it like that, obviously.
01:24:17.000But what if one of these interns was, you know, a far-right, and they were like, you know what?
01:24:26.000Don't use my pronouns, and I'll file... I mean, in New York, for instance, it's a human rights violation with a fine of up to $250,000 for willful misuse of someone's pronouns.
01:24:35.000Right, and that's unconstitutional, and eventually that will be thrown out on First Amendment grounds, but... But it'll need challenging, which means it'll need a legal case.
01:24:48.000Also, someone will have to attempt it against a company who will have to then defend themselves.
01:26:06.000And that means we're gonna make less money than the people who are taking the easier road and we're gonna be called Nazis and we're gonna have, you know, get postcards with swastikas on them and crossed out swastikas like I got when the Gavin case was in the news.
01:26:26.000That's just the price of allowing meaning and a sense of mission becloud your better judgment for comfort and Wealth.
01:26:43.000It's an exploitation of capitalism in a lot of ways.
01:26:46.000The willingness for big corporations to be subverted for the right price.
01:26:51.000Well, I will tell you that I am a little... You know, I mentioned before that I used to do a lot of trademark work.
01:26:56.000And in fact, for many years, I'm just not doing it anymore because I think blogging doesn't really matter.
01:27:01.000I'm also less interested in the topic, but I had a trademark blog called Likelihood of Confusion at likelihoodofconfusion.com that was considered to be a, you know, a pretty important And one of the things I noticed, so I'm very interested in branding and marketing and I have been astonished at the process of co-option by radical movements, by marketing companies
01:27:29.000And I remain convinced, and someone told me there's a really good book about this, and I forgot who wrote it, about how this happened.
01:27:36.000But I am convinced that in the long term, it is, because I'm an economics major perhaps, this cannot last.
01:27:47.000I wish I remembered maybe, was it you?
01:28:22.000And no matter how, you can't, so you can't, the market will not lie.
01:28:28.000And this is the grandest challenge to the American way of life, of all the things we've spoken about.
01:28:37.000The idea that an advertisement will try to convince you that the fantasy world that Madison Avenue has sold us since World War II should not be the fantasy life of comfort and good looks, but should be the fantasy life of obesity, disgustingness, slovenliness, and I think it ain't gonna work.
01:29:22.000And I think what people need to understand about this is, yeah, women want to see themselves as the pretty lady, right?
01:29:28.000But what happens when the average body mass index is on the rise in the United States, and many of those women are chowing down on a pint of Ben & Jerry's every night?
01:30:57.000And in fact, you'll go so far to claim that you're cool with it, that you'll lie about it!
01:31:03.000But when the men get together, and the women get together, and they think they're safe, what do they say about something that they think is uncool or creepy?
01:32:40.000But that could be heterosexual in this case as well.
01:32:43.000Like, two ugly people kissing would, you know.
01:32:47.000Or I suppose another example in a similar vein is this meme that goes around where it's like an attractive guy, like, saying, hey, you're looking good, Susan, and she's like, and then it's a fat guy saying, looking good, and she's like, help, help, I'm being oppressed, you know.
01:32:58.000So I think there's a point you're making.
01:33:24.000One thing the right has come to terms with And I include myself here, to the extent I can, given the community that I live in and my own religious beliefs, which is not limitless, not a limitless extent.
01:33:42.000We simply can't have the attitude towards homosexuality that we had during the Reagan years.
01:33:54.000We simply can't live in a world where we're going to say he can't be a leader or a potential president, where we might have done that when I was in high school.
01:34:06.000I think a lot of the issues with a movie where you've got a gay couple, be it men or women, I think the issue is actually political, and people are more angry about the politics being forced into it as opposed to any real issue with homosexuality.
01:34:25.000These are the comments you see online when it's like there's a movie and you have like the main characters, you know, in a lesbian relationship.
01:34:31.000The comments aren't like, ah, you know, she's a lesbian.
01:34:34.000No, it's like they're putting politics that doesn't need to be in the movie in the movie.
01:35:01.000But the reality is, so there's this NBC reporter who just like is one of the worst fake news reporters and I did a ground.news, it's a great website, blind spot search.
01:39:01.000Yeah, I've heard a few other people making that point about Chris.
01:39:07.000So when you hear that schools are teaching critical race theory, what's being implied is they're applying critical race theory to their teachings.
01:39:19.000This means that when they give you a math problem, it'll, it's like, this was an actual example I saw.
01:39:23.000It's like, John is stopped by police three times in a year, but you know, Kwame is stopped 492 times.
01:39:29.000What percentage change or blah, blah, blah.
01:39:32.000And it's like, you know, how many, what's the difference?
01:39:34.000And so that's applying critical race theory into math.
01:39:38.000So what you hear is that they're teaching critical race theory.
01:39:40.000Well, they're applying critical race theory's ideology in school programs, about diversity initiatives.
01:39:46.000What happens is, with all due respect, because Chris is a smart guy and I respect the work he's doing, the left easily pivots their defense.
01:39:55.000When the parents start saying they're teaching critical race theory, these journalists and these activists go, name one school that has ever quoted Derrick Bell to fifth graders.
01:40:19.000And then what happens is you'll get some 20-year-old going, Mom, can you point to one example where they mention this, you know, that, or otherwise?
01:40:26.000She's like, no, because they're lying to you, Mom!
01:41:16.000They actually call it critical praxis.
01:41:19.000So when the right comes out and says, critical race theory, the left easily goes, Name one critical race theorist we've ever brought up in the school.
01:41:28.000And of course they don't teach the theory of anything in fifth grade.
01:41:48.000I went to, I was shopping in West Virginia.
01:41:51.000And I heard parents complaining about critical race theory.
01:41:54.000And I said, you need to stop saying that.
01:41:57.000You know, like, I understand everything you're talking about.
01:41:59.000They're not teaching critical race theory.
01:42:02.000First and foremost, what they are teaching is rooted in critical theory in general, which includes critical gender theory.
01:42:07.000But they're applying the ideology into the teachings.
01:42:10.000If you go into these meetings and say this, they're going to, in two seconds, shut you down and say, you have no idea what you're talking about.
01:42:25.000The problem with the anti-establishment, be it liberal, moderate, conservative, those who challenge wokeness, or the Democrats for that matter, is that we all keep standing on their battlefield.
01:42:35.000The Black Lives Matter rioters, eh, insurrectionists.
01:43:21.000I don't care if... Look, when you get into the core of critical race theory, they'll use some sound ideas to justify why it's a good theory.
01:43:30.000Certain things like, did Christopher Columbus actually discover America?
01:43:34.000And then some people counter, it was actually Leif Erikson.
01:43:37.000And then they'll counter with, the Native Americans were already here.
01:43:40.000And that's the morsel of truth that triggers this, oh, and then the left starts saying, you see, they were just teaching true history of racism, blah, blah, blah.
01:43:51.000So no, I'm not, I have no concern for the most part of a school system in any grade teaching a theory.
01:43:57.000If they want to teach a theory, they would say, there are several authors who believe X. This is what they've said.
01:44:11.000My wife was looking at my sons, all my sons are large adults now, but when they were much younger, she was looking at one of their homework assignments and it was, which of these scores Which of these scores in the basketball game between... I'm sure if Jane is listening this far into this that I got it wrong.
01:44:39.000There were three basketball games between the two schools.
01:44:43.000Which score shows that the game was the least fair?
01:44:50.000And the answer was, of course, the game with the largest discrepancy between the scores.
01:44:57.000Fairness has nothing to do with that whatsoever.
01:45:00.000Maybe only three guys played for the team that scored 37 points more.
01:45:05.000But this goes to a corruption and subversive phenomenon that's been going on within education, which has now been leeched onto by particular political movements, which has worked out just great for everyone concerned.
01:45:44.000framework is quote there is no truth but power and quote and then the other moral
01:45:49.000framework which is based on traditionally Judeo-Christian values has
01:45:53.000a lot more to do with a lot of at least a search for truth a search for the
01:45:58.000truth that that is greater than power but I but I'll also what I want to
01:46:04.000clarify this too I'm not saying that the people who oppose wokeness are all theistic and believe in God and all that stuff, but their values they were born with, they come from a country that was rooted in those values and this is what was born of it.
01:46:16.000Their ideology is something entirely new or lacking any kind of moral framework.
01:46:21.000All right, let's uh... Center Sun says on Friday Super Chat asked what's left of alt-left and Tim suggested an AI government.
01:46:29.000It sounded eerily familiar to the resource-based economy dreamed up by Peter Joseph.
01:46:33.000You should look into him as a potential guest.
01:46:36.000I don't know, you know, so what we were saying was the far left, literal communists, think they're centrists.
01:46:44.000If that were true, what would be to the left of them?
01:46:47.000If the left on the economic scale is cooperative, which is communism, and the right is competitive, which is free enterprise, then what's left of communism?
01:47:25.000It's true that the National Socialists, as a party, have origins in the worker-based socialism that was roiling Europe in the early years of the 20th century.
01:47:39.000It's true that Goebbels himself was a Marxist, and to a large extent remained one.
01:47:47.000To the end of his wretched, awful, evil life, he used paradigms.
01:47:53.000I mean, he used the nomenclature of worker's struggle.
01:49:06.000On a political compass with a north, south, east, and west or whatever, left economic is cooperative and right economic is free enterprise.
01:49:13.000Monarchy is merely who's the head of state.
01:51:05.000It's because China plays these dirty games to manipulate poor people.
01:51:08.000Uh, they'll be like, we're gonna ban Bitcoin.
01:51:11.000And then the price drops, and then rich people buy up as much as they can from the panicked poor people.
01:51:16.000You can actually see it in the, the transactions.
01:51:19.000So when Elon Musk made his tweet that like, we're not gonna, you know, sell, this is according to some stuff that I read, I could be wrong, so fact check me.
01:51:27.000But I read a bunch of reports showing that the bulk of the transactions were small amounts, like 20 to 50 bucks, maybe 100 bucks.
01:51:34.000It was poor people who put in only as much as they could, and when the price started tanking, they panicked and sold.
01:51:40.000And the rich people started moving millions of dollars into Bitcoin, but...
01:51:44.000There's substantially fewer dollars from the wealthy going in, and more from the poor fleeing, so the price was going down.
01:51:51.000The way I described it was, at the time when Bitcoin was at $38,000, I said, if someone offered you a million dollars in cash, in a case, and all you had to do was write them a check for 38 grand, would you do it?
01:52:07.000When you have all of these massive companies hedging their bets and making massive investments into Bitcoin, and the people selling are the poor people, I feel bad for those poor people.
01:53:43.000All right, Ted2 says, Tim, I get your point about military budget and industry, but a lot of the systems we use are expensive tech designed to increase our survivability in the battle space.
01:56:50.000That's my, uh... The dog was like, I will not, unless, you know, I have given my, you know, unless they're given confirmation of the death, they will not abandon me.
01:57:17.000It reverses a lot of the rules going back to August 2020.
01:57:21.000But for the most part, it just means the FBI will do what the ATF does, which... Can't possibly be better, because the FBI is, I think we all agree, the worst.
01:59:57.000There's a bunch of places I could have been.
01:59:59.000I decided to go to New York, and I was there within, I think, the third day of Occupy Wall Street, and I was there for—I stayed in New York afterwards.
02:00:52.000In fact, Vice would not buy me the ticket to Ferguson.
02:00:55.000They told me to wait, and I said no, and I bought the ticket myself.
02:00:58.000And if I had not gone, they would have not gotten that coverage, and it was, like, the biggest thing Vice had ever done when I went to Ferguson.
02:01:04.000It was, like, 70,000 concurrent viewers, which is not the biggest I've done, but at the point, you know, several years ago, it was ridiculous for a livestream to have that level of viewership, particularly with mobile.
02:01:15.000And they told me no when I said it at first.
02:01:17.000Bought myself the ticket and flew there, and then they were like, Bravo, and then I quit because of it.
02:01:24.000There are a lot of people who used to cover and do field reporting for all these different places, and they'd be in the place that wasn't the biggest story.
02:01:33.000So you can call it luck and call it whatever you want, but it was pretty fortuitous that I was in all of these huge, you know, But isn't it usually the producer, like in a typical news organization, the producer sends the field reporter.
02:01:46.000You had an entrepreneurial role in choosing from where you would do your reporting.
02:02:17.000During Occupy Wall Street, the initial livestreaming was being done via laptop with webcams they were holding up, and they would just point at random things.
02:02:24.000When I started livestreaming, I would use my phone with Ustream, which was like the new mobile app, and I would narrate, explaining what was going on and what I was seeing while answering questions.
02:02:32.000And no one had done that, for the most part.
02:03:08.000I said that if you are in a racist meeting, to accuse the boss of being racist because they are being racist and violating the Civil Rights Act.
02:03:16.000I'm literally saying, if you are in a workplace meeting and they break the law, to tell them, to warn them not to, and then to go to the proper administration when they do.
02:04:03.000Eddie says, Hey Tim, currently working for CNN as a software engineer contractor, which is funny considering my views, but it pays the bills and the super chat.
02:06:39.000I don't give financial advice or anything like that, but I would say.
02:06:42.000Homeownership is a vehicle by which the middle class transfer wealth to their children, and make their lives better, and store their wealth beyond their life to their descendants.
02:06:51.000And if you own a home, you're likely going to pay less per month than you would on rent.
02:06:56.000Granted, you have taxes and insurance, but it's still less, because the people who own the home and rent it out have to cover those same things, so they'll charge a premium.
02:07:19.000You're going to call a rental management company, who will take over, you'll sign a contract with them, and then you will never think about it again, and money will just appear in your bank account.
02:08:51.000And that's where you get your, you know... I love the idea that it was the hippies who are now the people extracting the wealth and holding the properties and wagging the finger at millennials.
02:12:00.000And you guys, I think that you should follow me at sarahpatchlids on Twitter because this is something I've never done before.
02:12:06.000I wanted to reference a tweet that I made yesterday.
02:12:09.000This weekend I was thinking about rules that the right wing needs to follow.
02:12:12.000I made a list of about 10 or 11 rules and one of them is we must choose not to bicker with each other over petty disagreements and we literally have- oh sorry, not that one.
02:12:20.000It says, we have to sacrifice some of our individuality to accomplish goals that give people freedom.