Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Democrat PAC Founder Justifies Executing White People For Trolling w-Ron Coleman

00:00:00.000 This past weekend, we saw a really horrifying tragedy happen in Chicago.

00:00:26.000 There was a man and his significant other, this woman, were driving through the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago with a Puerto Rican flag when something happened where they got ambushed.

00:00:36.000 They were dragged or fell out of the car and they were, well, the man was executed.

00:00:42.000 The woman was left for dead but is in critical condition.

00:00:45.000 It's a horrifying story.

00:00:46.000 It's a horrifying story about Chicago.

00:00:47.000 Now, Do you expect a story like that to make the mainstream media?

00:00:51.000 Usually, it doesn't.

00:00:53.000 But there is an interesting story that emerged from it.

00:00:55.000 A founder of a Democrat PAC, political action committee, responded to Ann Coulter when she tweeted about this not appearing in the news by saying, And then realizing that he was wrong said, well, I was just saying that if it was a white guy, I'd have been agnostic on it, which is insane.

00:01:16.000 I mean, it's absolutely insane.

00:01:17.000 Like who in their right mind is going to be like, that was a good thing or, or, or at least be agnostic.

00:01:21.000 No, no, no. 0.75

00:01:22.000 It's wrong to kill people.

00:01:24.000 War is bad. 0.70

00:01:24.000 Violence is bad. 0.70

00:01:25.000 It's all bad.

00:01:25.000 We don't like it.

00:01:26.000 When it comes to international conflict and fights, we regret that we even have to defend ourselves.

00:01:33.000 When a police officer, when someone in the military, or even a regular homeowner is forced to defend themselves, it's a traumatic experience taking someone's life.

00:01:39.000 Yet we have people right now on social media gloating and laughing about it.

00:01:43.000 There's another event that happened too, especially if you've been following my channels you'd have seen this.

00:01:47.000 A Pride event in Seattle is going to be charging white people reparations to attend.

00:01:52.000 So this is all in line with the insanity that is Well, I should say the application of critical race theory.

00:01:59.000 And we're hearing from so many people on the left just outright lying, saying schools aren't teaching this theory and things like that.

00:02:05.000 But they are.

00:02:06.000 And this is the kind of stuff that it leads to.

00:02:08.000 And it's also a big problem of social media.

00:02:10.000 We're going to talk about a lot of things.

00:02:10.000 So we're going to talk about this.

00:02:12.000 And we are being joined by a political commentator and a legal expert.

00:02:15.000 I'll just call you.

00:02:16.000 There you go.

00:02:17.000 Ron Coleman, legal expert.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, boy.

00:02:20.000 You know, that's vague.

00:02:21.000 Certainly in the room, I must be the biggest legal expert.

00:02:24.000 Yes.

00:02:25.000 I'm allowed to say it, because I'm certainly not.

00:02:27.000 I mean, you're a lawyer for what, 30-something years, you said?

00:02:29.000 30-something years, yeah.

00:02:31.000 And for someone who's only 40 years old.

00:02:33.000 That's right, that's right.

00:02:34.000 Ian's actually older than you.

00:02:35.000 I'm a prodigy.

00:02:37.000 You're 10, you're in the, you know, past the bar very early.

00:02:40.000 Ask anyone who knew me, they will stand up and agree that I was quite the advocate.

00:02:45.000 You specialize in First Amendment law, or what is your specialty?

00:02:48.000 Well, that's really where I have found myself now.

00:02:51.000 I mean, I'm a civil or commercial litigator and most of my career has been representing parties involved in court battles that are not criminal law.

00:03:09.000 And that covered a very, very wide range of topics, but one of the things that I was interested in early in my career was trademark law, which is something that appealed to me, maybe my artistic sensibility, all kinds of things.

00:03:23.000 I got more involved in trademarks, and when the internet hit, I got increasingly involved in the use of intellectual property law as a way of Eliminating competition on the internet by claiming trademark infringement as a way to shut people up or copyright infringement as a way of shutting people up.

00:03:42.000 I got more and more involved with First Amendment law.

00:03:46.000 Also, as an Orthodox Jew, I was frequently called upon in my community to help out on religious liberties issues.

00:03:54.000 So the First Amendment became more and more of a friend.

00:03:58.000 And then when I represented the slants in their challenge to the Lanham Act's prohibition on the registration of trademarks that disparaged people, And we won that in the United States Supreme Court. 0.99

00:04:12.000 I then was able to combine my interest in trademark law and First Amendment law and become known as more of a First Amendment lawyer.

00:04:21.000 And now I'm partners with Armie Dillon, who's been doing all this religious liberties and free speech stuff for all these years.

00:04:29.000 And my life is essentially perfect.

00:04:31.000 So we can talk a lot about Section 230, which I've had a lot of arguments about.

00:04:35.000 It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts as well.

00:04:37.000 It will, it will.

00:04:37.000 So we'll get into all that stuff as well.

00:04:39.000 So, what are we in?

00:04:40.000 We got Lydia pressing all the buttons. 1.00

00:04:41.000 I am here in the corner pushing buttons.

00:04:42.000 I'm excited for this evening, for this voice of knowledge.

00:04:45.000 She does know how to push buttons. 1.00

00:04:46.000 I do, yes, it's true.

00:04:47.000 No, she was killing me last night on Twitter. 0.99

00:04:50.000 I was giving you a hard time.

00:04:51.000 Even this afternoon, right up till the... I know, yeah.

00:04:53.000 Gotta keep it going.

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00:08:02.000 Now let's jump into that first story.

00:08:05.000 This is from BizPac Review.

00:08:09.000 Misguided Embrace of Mob Justice Doesn't End Well for Bluecheck, who took on Ann Coulter.

00:08:14.000 It's an excellent title of the article.

00:08:17.000 But let's give you the gist of it, because we have the article here, and we have Ann Coulter.

00:08:20.000 I mentioned this in the opening, but for those that are just joining in, There was a very serious tragedy where a man and his girlfriend were celebrating Puerto Rican Day and they were flying the flag.

00:08:31.000 In the Humboldt Park neighborhood of Chicago they got ambushed.

00:08:34.000 Somehow they ended up outside of their car either dragged out or fell out and they were shot.

00:08:38.000 The man was effectively executed.

00:08:40.000 The woman was left for dead in critical condition and they were rushed to the hospital.

00:08:44.000 It's a horrifying story.

00:08:46.000 But this blue checkmark on Twitter, the founder of a Democrat political action committee, said, and you forgot to mention that he was flying a Confederate flag and he was white, as if that somehow justified murdering a man in cold blood.

00:09:00.000 And when people called him out, he was like, okay, I was wrong about the flag.

00:09:04.000 I get that.

00:09:04.000 But I was just saying if it was a white guy, like even doubling down, This is, to me, it's a shocking example of where we are today in mainstream politics.

00:09:17.000 Or...

00:09:18.000 I guess this is more worrying.

00:09:20.000 Maybe this is just what people have always thought.

00:09:22.000 They just didn't have a venue to blast it out to the world.

00:09:25.000 When Ann Coulter would appear on Fox News and say these things, this guy would probably be sitting in his lounge chair in his living room saying the exact same thing.

00:09:33.000 It's only now that we can see what they think because they're willing to say it to everybody.

00:09:37.000 I guess, truth be told, back then, without Twitter, they probably would have still been willing to say it.

00:09:41.000 They just didn't have any way to do it.

00:09:43.000 So maybe that's what's really happening, but earlier, Ron, you were mentioning that you're not even surprised by this, and it's like, not even news.

00:09:50.000 No, I mean, it's news that he... that anyone noticed.

00:09:57.000 I'll tell you, I mean, it's only a couple of clicks away from... Last night, you know, very often, so I have a... I don't have a Tim Pool kind of Twitter account, but I've got, you know, 130-some-odd thousand and a blue check.

00:10:13.000 Oh, so you're one of them.

00:10:14.000 I'm blue check too, so we're all blue checkers here.

00:10:16.000 Of course, yeah, blue checkers. 1.00

00:10:19.000 And often I will get into, you know, I'll scroll down into what looks like a fun scrum and say, you know, this looks like... I should be able to get a couple of good one-liners off here.

00:10:33.000 That's kind of my M.O.

00:10:35.000 And then I bring the culmination in.

00:10:39.000 That's the name of my podcast, Culmination!

00:10:41.000 Although it was really meant as a pun on culmination, of course.

00:10:46.000 That's a good one.

00:10:48.000 Just like the Sex Pistols were the band that killed rock and roll, I wanted to be the podcaster that killed podcasting.

00:10:54.000 But not until I made a ton of money at it.

00:11:00.000 It was an Ashley Babbitt Thread.

00:11:04.000 And inevitably, there's some awful person saying, well, she got exactly what she deserved.

00:11:11.000 Well, it was someone who said Ashley Babbitt got justice on January 6th.

00:11:15.000 Right.

00:11:15.000 That's horrifying.

00:11:17.000 Oh, in every single Ashley Babbitt thread.

00:11:22.000 So, and so often people will say to me, why did I tell you how big my account was?

00:11:26.000 Because all people, Ron, why are you bothering with this person?

00:11:27.000 He has 700 followers.

00:11:29.000 Answer, I'm not doing it for him.

00:11:33.000 I'm not trying to convince... He's a moral retard. 1.00

00:11:37.000 He's not gonna... No one changes his mind on Twitter! 0.99

00:11:41.000 We know that!

00:11:43.000 But, I do have a lot of people who are interested in how Ron will deal with this issue, or with this comment, because they look to me for a certain kind of rhetorical leadership, we might call it.

00:11:58.000 So I sort of started up with this guy, and he was absolutely... but you can find it all the time.

00:12:07.000 You know, often I'll say, well, breaking and entering is actually not this.

00:12:13.000 Well, it's breaking and entering!

00:12:14.000 You know, you can shoot someone... No.

00:12:15.000 Breaking and entering is in a house.

00:12:18.000 in Washington DC.

00:12:19.000 Doesn't have to be at night, necessarily, but it isn't a public building.

00:12:23.000 I wasn't breaking and entering.

00:12:24.000 Second, there is a standard, a legal standard, for the use of force, and this didn't resemble that in the slightest.

00:12:31.000 Now, as I said, this is a couple of clicks away from displaying a flag which involves no violence or threat of violence.

00:12:39.000 There's no misjudgment.

00:12:40.000 That was just plain murder, right?

00:12:43.000 This was, frankly, I wouldn't want to say anything 2-2 out there that I've already said on Twitter, but I've said it.

00:12:54.000 People are absolutely... I think, Tim, you absolutely nailed it.

00:12:59.000 People just feel comfortable saying it now.

00:13:03.000 Someone who thinks like that has always thought like that or they grew up in a house where mom and pop or mom or pop thought like that.

00:13:14.000 I think that's the only thing that's changed.

00:13:16.000 Well, I think it's possible that social media has driven these people insane in the sense of they like to talk about the rabbit hole, like these New York Times reporters and these NBC reporters.

00:13:26.000 It's not true in the way they think it is.

00:13:28.000 They're like, oh, YouTube's algorithm makes people go down a rabbit hole, which makes no sense because it's only ever politics, right?

00:13:34.000 They make this claim that if someone watches a video on immigration, within a month they'll be, you know, far right or whatever.

00:13:39.000 But if that were the case, there would be a rabbit hole for every subject.

00:13:43.000 It's like you watch a cartoon about Batman, and then in a month you've got Batman posters all over your walls, and you're running around the city just like Batman.

00:13:49.000 Well, I've become obsessed with World War I flamethrowers. 0.91

00:13:54.000 Anyone getting that?

00:13:55.000 Anyone getting that reference?

00:13:56.000 No.

00:13:57.000 It's a Thomas Victor reference.

00:14:00.000 What I do think happens, though, is communities can rile people up, and Twitter and Facebook are the actual culprit of radicalization, not so much YouTube.

00:14:07.000 In fact, YouTube gives you a big mix, because it doesn't just send you down one direction.

00:14:12.000 I will say, though, YouTube did have some element of this, where it's like, you get the same content over and over.

00:14:17.000 I wouldn't say it radicalized you, other that it showed you the same thing over and over.

00:14:20.000 On Twitter, you do get radicalized, because what happens is, you're looking for retweets, And everybody's constantly one-upping each other to be that top figure.

00:14:28.000 The same thing is true with these blogs like BuzzFeed and with Vox and with Facebook.

00:14:32.000 You're constantly trying to shock people into sharing content.

00:14:35.000 YouTube doesn't have a direct share feature the way that Twitter and Facebook does.

00:14:38.000 If you want to share a YouTube video...

00:14:40.000 And you should share this one by taking the URL and posting it on Facebook and Twitter.

00:14:44.000 You have to actually manually do it.

00:14:45.000 This is why it's very, very difficult for YouTube-centric conversations to expand to a larger level.

00:14:51.000 People who are watching this have to actually go into the URL, copy it, then paste it on another platform, or there's a share button they can click and then select a platform and then open up a window.

00:14:59.000 And that platform may or may not preview well.

00:15:03.000 And if it doesn't, it's dead on arrival.

00:15:05.000 Now let's think about how Twitter and Facebook works with this, like, radicalization, this extremism, and this guy.

00:15:10.000 I mean, this is literally a story about a guy going on Twitter saying it was okay for people to be executed.

00:15:14.000 Using his own name.

00:15:14.000 This is a real person.

00:15:15.000 This is not like you're- Verified.

00:15:17.000 Right.

00:15:18.000 It's because when he tweets, he's hoping someone will hit the retweet button and on the spot relay his message to hundreds more.

00:15:27.000 So, what happens is people keep trying to find what will get them attention.

00:15:32.000 When they find it, they attack it like crazy, getting more and more retweets, going more and more insane.

00:15:37.000 I want to suggest that it's not always such an intense thing.

00:15:41.000 I think there's actually, in a way, what I want to say here is a little scarier even.

00:15:46.000 If you tell me that people are going to say shocking things in order to get attention, And this goes back to the skinheads, the punks, using swastikas.

00:15:58.000 Are they Nazis? 0.95

00:15:59.000 Oh, Johnny Rotten has a swastika, therefore he wants to round up the Jews. 0.95

00:16:03.000 No, no. 0.91

00:16:04.000 What it means is that he wants to shock you, horrify you, get your attention.

00:16:08.000 I'm not saying it's cool.

00:16:10.000 I'm just saying, chill out.

00:16:14.000 What you're seeing a lot of with people in this highly politicized environment is casual, casual expressions of ugly thoughts.

00:16:27.000 In other words, I had a tweet, I guess it was three or four days ago.

00:16:34.000 I write these really elaborate threads.

00:16:36.000 I am, I am bringing The very substance of godly wisdom to my people.

00:16:44.000 I write these incredibly insightful and original threads and I often get nice traction.

00:16:50.000 Very humble.

00:16:50.000 But then, listen, if you knew how humble I was being describing it that way!

00:16:57.000 But I had 6,000 tweets for the following tweet, a quote tweet of Biden announcing that he told the Russians the 16 things they absolutely positively can't do, and I said, is this a parody?

00:17:10.000 Okay, now, that went viral.

00:17:14.000 That was a casual, that was like a gimme.

00:17:16.000 That was this chip shot.

00:17:19.000 I just felt I had to say something.

00:17:21.000 And I didn't.

00:17:22.000 I didn't.

00:17:23.000 But it got me a gazillion followers.

00:17:27.000 Or a gazillion clicks.

00:17:27.000 You know, they're not too sticky.

00:17:29.000 They're not too sticky.

00:17:32.000 People who are very, very active on social media will very just casually drop their expression.

00:17:37.000 It's sort of like going to the bathroom.

00:17:40.000 Like, oh, you know, I have to eliminate. 1.00

00:17:44.000 I have to eliminate, you know, I've built up too many things about how stupid Trump people are. 1.00

00:17:51.000 I need to just say that. 0.99

00:17:53.000 So in other words, I think in a way that's worse because that's become, you know, a part of that, by the way, if you want to talk... Are you saying that Twitter is basically like a septic tank of bad ideas?

00:18:04.000 Like people, you build up this idea waste and then onto Twitter and then everyone swims in it and basks in these ideas?

00:18:12.000 I think we're gonna have to think about that a little bit.

00:18:15.000 But I think you might be onto something.

00:18:16.000 I think that's certainly it.

00:18:17.000 I mean, you know what's really funny?

00:18:19.000 My Twitter is just like... I love Twitter.

00:18:22.000 I hated it for a long time and then I realized you have to love it.

00:18:24.000 And again, shout out to Michael Malice because he's the master at this.

00:18:27.000 But I was just like, wow.

00:18:28.000 I have learned so much technique from Malice.

00:18:32.000 Genius!

00:18:33.000 I posted it!

00:18:34.000 So, uh, I was watching the movies the other day.

00:18:35.000 He is a genius.

00:18:36.000 And, um, my girlfriend mentioned that, uh, like, we were watching a movie where a rabbit got run over.

00:18:42.000 And, you know, I was jokingly like, oh, I can't watch the movie anymore, oh no, a rabbit's been killed.

00:18:47.000 It was a horror movie, I was kidding.

00:18:48.000 And then, uh, The rabbit was by far the least sentient thing that was killed in that movie.

00:18:54.000 For sure, for sure.

00:18:55.000 But we basically came upon the joke that there's no such thing as an ugly rabbit.

00:18:59.000 It was like a cute animal that was killed.

00:19:01.000 And so I googled it, ugly rabbit, and boy are there ugly rabbits.

00:19:05.000 So I just tweeted, without comment, for no reason, a picture of a hairless rabbit eating kale, wearing a scarf, very silly looking, because that's my Twitter.

00:19:16.000 And I love it because I tweet things and I get these very serious replies from these people like, you know, this is politics.

00:19:22.000 And I'm like, bro, I just posted a picture of a hairless rabbit eating kale.

00:19:25.000 Who do you think you're interacting with?

00:19:27.000 Twitter is not the place for me to have a serious political conversation, but I'll, I'll post serious things there. 0.98

00:19:32.000 No, it's like a waste pit of just like stupid things that I think I'm going to tweet. 0.98

00:19:38.000 I just don't care anymore. 0.99

00:19:39.000 There, I don't know, during the election, it was different.

00:19:41.000 There was so much going on politically that I'd think of something and be like, man, I can't believe this.

00:19:45.000 And I just tweet it.

00:19:46.000 To no one in particular.

00:19:48.000 And then I just got to a point where I was like, this is an awful, vile place. 0.62

00:19:53.000 Where people just, like, wanna kill each other.

00:19:56.000 It's the fence between people for which they can bark at each other.

00:19:59.000 And so I just decided, you know what?

00:20:01.000 I just post insane nons to this point.

00:20:03.000 And I practice law.

00:20:04.000 So, to me, I'm inured to that.

00:20:06.000 I mean, the fact is- That's a lot of what law is, right? 0.97

00:20:10.000 Well, you know- Ridiculous arguments.

00:20:14.000 Really, some of the finest people to hang out with are lawyers. 0.62

00:20:20.000 And I mean the kind of lawyers who are my kind of lawyers who try cases in the courts.

00:20:25.000 During a break or while waiting for a judge, the vast majority of the lawyers that I encounter in my work, they're such a pleasure.

00:20:35.000 There's a real cool aspect to that.

00:20:36.000 really like there's a real cool aspect to that.

00:20:42.000 But on the other hand, as a whole, in the work that we do, there's so much toleration

00:20:48.000 for falsehood and dishonesty.

00:20:54.000 And I don't only mean at the lawyer level.

00:20:56.000 I mean also at the judicial level and also at the appellate level.

00:21:00.000 But you really do become very used to that septic tank phenomenon, unfortunately.

00:21:07.000 We're swimming in it.

00:21:08.000 So, yeah, I do think that there is this sense that there's a sort of casual nastiness that

00:21:15.000 we didn't have in society before.

00:21:17.000 You know, you always had people who wrote nasty letters to the editor.

00:21:20.000 The editors didn't print them.

00:21:22.000 The editors didn't print them.

00:21:23.000 Or it was the shopper, and they needed content, and there was just always the cranky guy you always complained about.

00:21:30.000 Why don't people put, you know, the shopping carts away, you know, in the stop and shop?

00:21:34.000 You know, and that was their world.

00:21:36.000 You know what the first iteration of this was?

00:21:39.000 Chain letters.

00:21:41.000 It's, they started the physical world.

00:21:43.000 Somebody would get a letter in the mail and it would open and it would be like, you have been cursed!

00:21:46.000 Like, I wonder how many young people realize these were physical letters.

00:21:49.000 Did you ever get a physical chain letter before?

00:21:51.000 Sure, of course.

00:21:52.000 I remember when I was little.

00:21:52.000 Mine was delivered by Pony Express, you have to keep in mind.

00:21:54.000 Oh, that's right.

00:21:55.000 But you're only 40, I thought.

00:21:56.000 30 years ago.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, 30 years ago.

00:21:58.000 So, anyway.

00:22:00.000 I think a lot of young people think chain letters just started with email.

00:22:04.000 You might not realize that people used to physically mail chain letters.

00:22:06.000 Like, you must mail this to 17 people.

00:22:08.000 But I remember the early emails.

00:22:09.000 The goal was to get maximum echo.

00:22:11.000 To impact the world.

00:22:14.000 So that people would do your thing.

00:22:16.000 It's a similar reason why people write computer viruses.

00:22:20.000 They want to make something influential have an impact.

00:22:24.000 Graffiti.

00:22:25.000 Right.

00:22:26.000 Even when I was a kid, so I was growing up in Brooklyn in the late 60s and 70s, when the city began its first massive down cycle.

00:22:37.000 And people started writing on public surfaces.

00:22:40.000 This was something, if you look at photographs from through the 1950s and early 60s, of even the most decrepit stations.

00:22:49.000 There was no idea that people would write on stuff.

00:22:53.000 And even as a child I recognized, because I was an extremely socially aware child, that

00:23:01.000 the people doing this obviously are desperate to make a mark in the world.

00:23:08.000 and subscribe.

00:23:10.000 Far be it from me, with my 70,000 tweets a week, to look down on someone who wants to make a mark in the world.

00:23:18.000 I get it, I get it.

00:23:19.000 And especially the more powerless you are, the more of a mark sometimes you want to make.

00:23:25.000 You know, a person who is well-adjusted and who has normal interaction with people makes a mark by making his children happy, by making his spouse happy, by, you know, there are lots of normal healthy ways to do it in an idealized, almost non-existent kind of existence.

00:23:41.000 And then come the other, and some people need that less and some people need it more.

00:23:45.000 Everyone needs to feel Valued.

00:23:50.000 And if you can't be valued, then you're gonna shock the world.

00:23:52.000 And Twitter is this attention... Yes, it absolutely is.

00:23:55.000 It's got a point system.

00:23:57.000 You earn points.

00:23:58.000 Your retweets are points, your likes are points, your followers are points.

00:24:01.000 Your followers are your ranking, where you are in the game.

00:24:05.000 And when Twitter does one of its purges, and when they purged the Q people, I lost 30,000 in a week. 1.00

00:24:10.000 Wow. 0.98

00:24:13.000 Now, most of those people were lunatics. 1.00

00:24:19.000 What about the leftist lunatics who are tweeting things like this? 1.00

00:24:23.000 They get a free pass on all of it. 0.91

00:24:25.000 There's an article going viral right now where in 2018 Newsweek was arguing that Hillary Clinton could still become president a year into Trump's presidency.

00:24:36.000 I remember that very well.

00:24:37.000 Now you will get banned from YouTube if you say the same thing about Trump right now.

00:24:41.000 If you say the same thing, the same thing we won't say.

00:24:45.000 That's right.

00:24:47.000 Amazing.

00:24:49.000 But that's passé.

00:24:51.000 We have come to accept that that's the way our masters insist that we proceed.

00:24:58.000 But it is this point system.

00:25:05.000 So when they take away a massive amount of followers from you, And now imagine when they ban somebody.

00:25:11.000 So I'm one of the people who gets DM'ed or emailed when someone gets banned because they think They think for a reason that does not exist, by the way, that I'm the guy who can help them.

00:25:28.000 Because you're a lawyer.

00:25:29.000 I'm a lawyer, and I'm the free speech lawyer, and I'm really active on Twitter, and I'm a blue check, and I'm powerful.

00:25:40.000 I'm not powerful at all.

00:25:43.000 When I write letters, and I gave up a long time ago, to the head of the legal department at Twitter, She doesn't even bother to respond.

00:25:52.000 Right.

00:25:53.000 She doesn't even bother to respond.

00:25:54.000 And by the way, you know who invented... Talk about a hyperlink.

00:25:57.000 Talk about your ADHD special moment.

00:25:59.000 You know who invented the concept?

00:26:02.000 In my 40 years on this planet since 1963, my observation is that the concept of absolutely ignoring your customers for a private company that was not actually like a utility was Microsoft.

00:26:21.000 The first company that made you buy an expensive something from them and that you had no expectation whatsoever that if you had a problem or a question that they were going to help you.

00:26:34.000 Monopoly power.

00:26:36.000 That is the way, right, because what's a utility?

00:26:39.000 A regulated monopoly.

00:26:42.000 And when you see a company acting like a utility, ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling, Well, you've got a monopoly.

00:26:50.000 So let's talk a bit about defamation in Section 230, because you're a lawyer, right?

00:26:53.000 That's a terrible segue, Tim.

00:26:55.000 That's actually pretty good.

00:26:56.000 We're talking about big cash.

00:26:57.000 We're talking about censorship.

00:26:59.000 You've got people, conservatives, getting banned left and right.

00:27:02.000 Q gets purged. 0.69

00:27:03.000 But the Rachel Maddow conspiracy nuts are given free pass, right? 1.00

00:27:06.000 So I want to ask you a question because I can't remember what I was talking about.

00:27:09.000 I think I was talking to Will Chamberlain about this.

00:27:11.000 And we've brought up several times.

00:27:13.000 For those that aren't familiar, Section 230 basically gives broad immunities to web...

00:27:17.000 What's the phrase they use? Interactive web companies?

00:27:21.000 Internet service providers.

00:27:23.000 There you go. That basically means everybody for any reason.

00:27:25.000 reason.

00:27:27.000 So, what happens is, they can ban whoever they want, regardless of speech, because they are immunized from defamation, as well as, long story short, they won't have the immunity taken from them if they do moderate.

00:27:38.000 However, what's been happening is, very obviously, most of the bans happen on the right or anti-establishment.

00:27:45.000 Some of the bans happen on the left, but it's usually like anti-war, anti-establishment, leftist types.

00:27:50.000 Now, the problem is many people on the right seem to think there's a distinction between a publisher and a platform as if it matters.

00:27:55.000 It really doesn't.

00:27:56.000 The New York Times has the same protections as Twitter, but something interesting does arise out of this argument that I want to present to you.

00:28:03.000 First, I'll start with the New York Times, for instance, right?

00:28:07.000 Oh.

00:28:08.000 Somebody writes for the resident article, and the New York Times

00:28:11.000 publishes on its front page. What's the distinction between that and say, someone writing a tweet and Twitter,

00:28:19.000 publishing it and putting it in its what's happening bar to everybody in

00:28:22.000 the world? Oh, putting it in the in the what's happening bar, right?

00:28:28.000 That's a much harder question.

00:28:31.000 Because if you would have just told if you would, you should have asked two questions.

00:28:33.000 The first question was, what's the difference between the times publishing an article and a tweet? 0.86

00:28:43.000 That's dumb though, right?

00:28:44.000 It's an obvious question. 0.98

00:28:45.000 Twitter is just mechanically... So, I don't know how they choose articles for the what's happening part.

00:28:52.000 They editorialize.

00:28:53.000 They select a tweet and then they write about it.

00:28:56.000 Or tweets.

00:28:57.000 Okay.

00:28:58.000 So if they select a tweet based on algorithms, the selection piece of it might be content neutral in and of itself.

00:29:05.000 Although their algorithms are not content neutral at all.

00:29:08.000 But if they editorialize, See, again, we have to ask ourselves, what's the inquiry here?

00:29:16.000 Why do we care about this distinction?

00:29:21.000 The simple answer to your question is there's no difference.

00:29:24.000 They are now publishers.

00:29:26.000 They are now Putting content into the world for which they have the same responsibility as the New York Times.

00:29:38.000 So if John Smith writes an article and the New York Times says, we're going to put that on the front page, the New York Times is responsible for the content in terms of defamation, slander, whatever, libel.

00:29:49.000 Right?

00:29:49.000 Okay.

00:29:50.000 If someone writes a tweet and then Twitter says, we're going to put this in our moments tab so everybody can see it.

00:29:55.000 I'm curious as to what's the difference.

00:29:56.000 Well, but what's the editorial... Okay, so you said they editorialize.

00:29:59.000 It's a really... Well, let's... I want to make sure I clarify this.

00:30:03.000 So, the What's Happening, they'll put an editorialization, but it's usually in reference to a series of tweets.

00:30:07.000 So, I understand they're liable for what they write there.

00:30:10.000 But, if I write an article for the New York Times, and then hand it to a guy, and he goes, I will publish this on the front page.

00:30:17.000 New York Times assumes responsibility for the contents of that post.

00:30:20.000 If someone tweets and Twitter goes, I am going to put this in the moments tabs that anyone who clicks it will see it front and center to hundreds of millions of people.

00:30:29.000 What's the difference?

00:30:32.000 It depends on what the reasonable viewer understands from that tweet.

00:30:42.000 And that's a fact question that has never been examined in a litigation setting because cases don't go this far.

00:30:50.000 And they need to, because I've got another question for you.

00:30:52.000 Especially if I'm handling them, because I would love to ask those questions.

00:30:56.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:30:57.000 If Ian wrote an article and posted it on his blog, and then I took the contents of that article and put it on the front page of my website, would I assume responsibility for publishing it?

00:31:09.000 Are you more than an aggregator?

00:31:11.000 Are you Drudge Report?

00:31:12.000 Or are you, this is Tim Poole, and these are the articles that I want you to read because... It appears on my front page identically to every other article.

00:31:21.000 Every other statement.

00:31:23.000 So that's your newspaper.

00:31:24.000 In other words, he licensed the article to you to publish it in your newspaper.

00:31:28.000 So if on your Twitter account there's a retweet from Ian that appears identically to your other posts, would your retweet then be your responsibility as well?

00:31:38.000 Yes.

00:31:39.000 See, this is where there's a lot of questions that have never been asked, and we haven't seen people actually go to court and start challenging them.

00:31:44.000 But this is one of the least important questions.

00:31:46.000 See, and this, as you understand because you've spoken to Will about this, and this is like a favorite Ron and Will thing.

00:31:52.000 We wrote articles on this together.

00:31:56.000 It hardly matters, you know, the publisher versus platform distinction is mostly irrelevant because it has to do with to what extent is Twitter responsible for what people tweet?

00:32:10.000 Meaning if I dethane you in a tweet, can you sue Twitter?

00:32:14.000 Why would you want to sue Twitter?

00:32:15.000 Because Coleman doesn't have any money!

00:32:18.000 Well, Coleman's not making it happen.

00:32:20.000 Twitter is the one giving it a reach in servers. 0.85

00:32:22.000 I write a tweet that says, Nancy Pelosi is an alcoholic. 0.98

00:32:28.000 I have it on good authority Nancy Pelosi is an alcoholic. 0.99

00:32:32.000 Drinks a fifth of gin every half an hour.

00:32:34.000 Okay?

00:32:37.000 Put it on Twitter.

00:32:39.000 You can't sue Twitter no matter how obvious of a lie it is.

00:32:43.000 Because they're just a mechanism.

00:32:46.000 They're just an internet service provider.

00:32:48.000 You can sue Coleman.

00:32:49.000 But I want to sue Twitter because they've got billions of dollars.

00:32:53.000 And Coleman has half a house in New Jersey.

00:32:56.000 And if Pelosi can prove damages by the time she gets past my mortgage, it's not going to be worth the trouble.

00:33:04.000 That's why we care.

00:33:06.000 But we hardly care because most... Because Section 230 says it's not going to happen.

00:33:12.000 But defamation's hardly ever the issue.

00:33:15.000 The issue is the censorship.

00:33:17.000 And that's where the cases are getting interesting.

00:33:20.000 Especially now that we have the Rogan O'Hanley case that we filed last week.

00:33:25.000 What is this one?

00:33:27.000 Rogan?

00:33:28.000 Rogan O'Hanley known as D.C.

00:33:30.000 Drano. 0.90

00:33:32.000 sued Twitter, but Twitter is the last party in the defendant column.

00:33:39.000 The first party is the Secretary of State of the state of California.

00:33:45.000 Rogan got documents from Judicial Watch.

00:33:52.000 Smoking gun documents showing that under the guise of election security, The state of California was sending, through a consultant, and in cooperation with 22 members of the National Association of Secretaries of State, all Democrats, sending tweets that were selected, I think, by the consultant, to Twitter, saying, this is misleading.

00:34:31.000 This is fake news.

00:34:32.000 A direct line from Democrats to the big tech company.

00:34:35.000 No, they are all Democrats.

00:34:38.000 A direct line from the government to the censorship.

00:34:44.000 All we've heard about is you build your own Twitter.

00:34:49.000 The government and Twitter are the same.

00:34:55.000 The government, you know, there's been lots of talk about what kinds of accommodations have been made.

00:35:02.000 We won't regulate you if you play ball.

00:35:05.000 All this, that's all very sort of impressionistic.

00:35:09.000 What we have here is specific political instructions from political activists telling Twitter, and they banned DC Drano has 2 million Instagram followers.

00:35:27.000 Meaning, they just needed an excuse.

00:35:36.000 He's too influential to be allowed to continue to comment on Twitter.

00:35:42.000 As far as I know, Instagram is not implicated in this, and Facebook, in this particular issue.

00:35:46.000 But, this is where things are going.

00:35:50.000 This is where things are going.

00:35:51.000 So, that's almost the first, that's a new world.

00:35:57.000 That's a new world.

00:35:58.000 And this is a case that we filed on Thursday.

00:36:01.000 And it's being routinely ignored by the media.

00:36:05.000 completely ignored.

00:36:07.000 If I told you Fox won't cover it.

00:36:10.000 They won't?

00:36:11.000 Fox will not cover it.

00:36:13.000 Wow.

00:36:15.000 And I always knew that Tucker Carlson was controlled opposition.

00:36:20.000 So Tucker, so Rogan and Harmeet, my partner, were on Tucker Thursday night, but Fox News won't cover it.

00:36:28.000 But Tucker allowed you to talk about it.

00:36:30.000 Tucker.

00:36:31.000 I take it back.

00:36:31.000 He's the only one who's not controlled opposition.

00:36:34.000 Tucker, you know, these categories are both dibbity bologna.

00:36:39.000 They, they, you know, and it's very common on Twitter that people want to You know, he's a rhino.

00:36:50.000 Oh, that bill, Democrats support it.

00:36:53.000 The world is not black and white.

00:36:54.000 And there's no question that in politics you have to make accommodations to get things done with people from other parties.

00:37:01.000 You know, we all have to get that.

00:37:05.000 People are complicated and they have, you know, and like, you know, we were talking before we went on, who's sticking their neck out for the movement versus who's sticking his neck out For his 401k, you know?

00:37:19.000 And listen, most people are not... Most people are just interested in... I don't want to call it a grift.

00:37:26.000 Making a living.

00:37:27.000 You know, making a living.

00:37:28.000 Or building a big business.

00:37:31.000 But there is one individual that I would like to ask you about in terms of the conversation.

00:37:35.000 James O'Keefe.

00:37:36.000 Because if there's one person I think is the real deal in terms of sticking his neck out and jumping into the fray, the tip of the spear, as it were.

00:37:46.000 James O'Keefe is fighting the fight, and more so than most people.

00:37:50.000 Yeah, he's legit.

00:37:50.000 He's for real.

00:37:51.000 And he's doing a lot of great work, and he's winning a lot of important battles.

00:37:54.000 But if you go to his Wikipedia page, You'll notice that it is the most insane garbled propaganda.

00:38:03.000 What's the word for defamation but like 100 orders of magnitude larger?

00:38:08.000 That's what it is.

00:38:09.000 And it's amazing because the Wikipedia page for James O'Keefe is very clearly an op-ed.

00:38:14.000 It is not in any way fact-based.

00:38:16.000 Now my question is, how does Wikipedia get away with smearing James O'Keefe the way they do?

00:38:23.000 And I'll elaborate on this.

00:38:25.000 We've talked about it before.

00:38:26.000 Uh, they say Project- well, not necessarily James O'Keefe specifically, they do smear him, but Project Veritas, they say it's far-right, it's an activist group, they produce deceptive video edits, you know, secret recordings, yadda yadda yadda, entrapment, um, generating bad publicity, it's propagating disinformation, conspiracy theories.

00:38:43.000 Now all of these are- this page from Wikipedia.

00:38:47.000 The citations are opinion pieces.

00:38:50.000 Wikipedia doesn't say it's the free opinion aggregator, it says it's the free encyclopedia, which is an actual definition of what an encyclopedia is.

00:38:59.000 So I'm sure there's some kind of argument they can make, well, look, someone's opinion, you know, somebody chooses to cite it as a fact in here, that's not us.

00:39:07.000 Here's the question I have working, it's interesting.

00:39:10.000 If I post a tweet saying, James O'Keefe once ate a whole pizza by himself, A large pepperoni.

00:39:19.000 And it's not true.

00:39:20.000 I have defamed him.

00:39:21.000 I have libeled him, right?

00:39:23.000 Only if that's something that would constitute... I mean, that might be a positive statement.

00:39:29.000 Sure, sure.

00:39:30.000 Let's say I said, James O'Keefe did bad thing, and it results in him losing tons of money and donors.

00:39:35.000 And it's not true.

00:39:36.000 So he says, here's the damages.

00:39:38.000 You've defamed me, you've libeled me, and I'm suing you for damages.

00:39:40.000 Yeah.

00:39:41.000 Twitter says, don't look at us.

00:39:42.000 That says Tim pool check Mark and the tweet clearly came from him.

00:39:46.000 Section two 30, not on us, right?

00:39:48.000 It would be on me personally.

00:39:50.000 If it's your tweet, correct.

00:39:52.000 Well, when I pull up project Veritas on Wikipedia, it says from Wikipedia,

00:39:52.000 Right.

00:39:58.000 project Veritas.

00:40:00.000 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

00:40:02.000 The name attached to this post is Wikipedia, not John Smith, or Bill Hammond, or Edgar Allan Poe.

00:40:10.000 Literally, Wikipedia.

00:40:12.000 I can understand the argument that when someone posts something and their name's next to it, it's their statement.

00:40:16.000 But what Wikipedia is doing is displaying no names.

00:40:20.000 If I want to figure out who added one section to this, I might have to dig through hundreds of pages.

00:40:25.000 No, because Wikipedia's already decided.

00:40:28.000 Tim, you've given me much to unpack here, but we have time.

00:40:30.000 crafted it into an article we put our name on.

00:40:33.000 At what point is this Wikipedia speech, especially when they say it's from them?

00:40:38.000 Tim, you've given me much to unpack here, but we have time.

00:40:41.000 First, before I say anything else, I have to say that we also represent James O'Keefe and Project Veritas.

00:40:51.000 Right on.

00:40:52.000 And we have two pending lawsuits that we filed in the last month or so, which were, which earned me ice cream.

00:41:03.000 And my followers will understand that that's how I reward myself and I've done a great job.

00:41:10.000 That's number one.

00:41:13.000 On the one hand, I will have to limit my comments.

00:41:17.000 On the other hand, I'm also telling you that I'm biased.

00:41:21.000 I'm no more biased than I was before because, like you, you look at James O'Keefe and you know he's absolutely the real deal.

00:41:28.000 I just pulled up Project Veritas simply because it's very obvious defamation, but let's say literally anything else.

00:41:33.000 Let's say, you know, my pillow.

00:41:36.000 So I'm not sure that that section 230 covers Wikipedia at all.

00:41:40.000 I don't think it's an internet service provider.

00:41:42.000 I don't know if that's been tested, but as you said, whom do you sue?

00:41:45.000 The problem there is corporate accountability.

00:41:48.000 Let me just point out, though, that the reason we care, I think that there's a consensus in the political and policy and internet part that we occupy. 0.97

00:42:06.000 That Wikipedia is garbage.

00:42:09.000 Unless you're looking up species of butterflies. 0.98

00:42:12.000 And, you know, the most generic stuff, but anything juicy, anything, it's known at this point to be garbage.

00:42:22.000 But, here's the problem.

00:42:25.000 Google considers it a highly authoritative resource.

00:42:29.000 That's why we have to break up Google.

00:42:32.000 Because Google, which is not an internet service provider as such, it's a search engine, Google editorializes and manipulates results for political purposes. 0.97

00:42:44.000 And it has a right to do it, just like people also know that Google's garbage. 0.97

00:42:48.000 But you know what?

00:42:49.000 I don't want to say the name of the alternative search engine that I use because I don't want to hurt their business.

00:42:58.000 So if I want to look up species of butterflies, it's fine.

00:43:01.000 But if I really need to get information, I'm inevitably going to end up back at Google and having to use my super brain to get past the bias because these guys, their search engine's not as good.

00:43:15.000 It's not as good.

00:43:17.000 Bing's a little bit better.

00:43:18.000 Actually.

00:43:19.000 But, it's not the Wikipedia part, it's the way, and this is an aspect of network effects, it's the way that Wikipedia has been baked into Google, and so has Twitter.

00:43:34.000 And there's been extremely little attention paid to the partnership between Google and Twitter.

00:43:39.000 I see what you're saying about Wikipedia.

00:43:41.000 If you Google search someone's name, there's a box that appears, and it has Wikipedia information, which could be completely made up.

00:43:46.000 And there's been very funny stories about people having their Wikipedias changed by random users, and then it appears on Google, which then transfers to your Amazon or Google device, so you're at home, and then you'll ask your little computer, who was George Washington?

00:44:00.000 And it'll be like, he was a pancake salesman, because somebody edited Wikipedia.

00:44:04.000 The system's fairly fractured, if you know what I mean.

00:44:08.000 I think the attack vector in terms of challenging this malfeasance is, sure, you could argue about breaking up Google, but sue Wikipedia.

00:44:18.000 I mean, Lord knows they desperately need your donations.

00:44:21.000 They won't shut up about it.

00:44:22.000 I'm sure it's been tried.

00:44:25.000 I know that I've seen the case captions.

00:44:27.000 I think the issue with Wikipedia is I think they might actually, that the corporate home of Wikipedia is somewhere that's not in this country.

00:44:37.000 It's in some country that isn't going to work out too well for litigation, something like that.

00:44:46.000 And also one that probably is not as amenable to So let's think about the problem we're facing there.

00:45:00.000 This is something that I've had a lot of concerns about going into the 2020 election.

00:45:04.000 Twitter will ban a conservative for saying their opinion.

00:45:07.000 An American citizen with a political opinion on Twitter will get banned, but an Australian citizen who has a contradictory opinion that supports the left will be allowed to get all the retweets in the world.

00:45:16.000 So you actually have foreign influence, so long as it supports the agenda of one faction, gaining traction and being protected, while American citizens- I'll tell you this, Laura Loomer might be considered by many to be distasteful, or they don't like her, they think she's bombastic, or just, they really don't like her because, you know, because she's high energy, we'll call her that. 0.97

00:45:35.000 She's an extremely enthusiastic young lady, yes.

00:45:38.000 She's an American citizen who has a right to speak and be engaged in politics whether you like it or not, but she's removed from every platform. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Meanwhile, I see it on Reddit every day.

00:45:46.000 Someone will comment on American news and there's a little Australian, New Zealand flag, a Canadian flag, a Russian flag.

00:45:51.000 Why do these people get to influence and be involved in our conversation but our own American citizens aren't allowed?

00:45:56.000 I'll be one better.

00:45:58.000 First I'll say that Laura Loom is also my client.

00:46:01.000 Oh, why?

00:46:01.000 Well, good, good.

00:46:02.000 Right on.

00:46:02.000 And one of the things that we tried to argue, and the judges simply, they use Section 230 to just get rid of any, we don't think they're gonna be able to do this with the O'Hanley case, with the DC Drano case, because of the government action.

00:46:18.000 It's just too over the top.

00:46:19.000 But in Laura's case, our argument essentially was, You know, the First Amendment prohibits the government from censoring the speech of citizens.

00:46:34.000 But only the U.S.

00:46:34.000 government.

00:46:36.000 What if CARE, let's just say the Council on American, Arab-American, what is it?

00:46:42.000 Council on American Islamic Relations.

00:46:45.000 Let's just say they accepted money from a foreign government. 0.86

00:46:50.000 A nasty foreign government. 1.00

00:46:52.000 And that foreign government told CARE Here's what you need to do.

00:46:59.000 Here are the voices you need to silence in order for us to more effectively message on this issue.

00:47:06.000 And Qatar, just for example, therefore decides that Laura Loomis should be censored. 0.97

00:47:13.000 The First Amendment has nothing to say about that.

00:47:16.000 Twitter takes orders from... We know Twitter takes orders.

00:47:20.000 I don't know about Twitter.

00:47:21.000 We know that there's an issue with platforms and technology companies taking orders from China.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:30.000 Also from Europe, from European governments that have strict anti-hate laws, right?

00:47:37.000 What we're really talking about here is the fact that the technology companies are themselves not beholden to any particular government.

00:47:48.000 They are bigger than sovereign states.

00:47:52.000 They are more powerful and wealthier than most sovereign states in the world.

00:47:56.000 And libertarians say, build your own Twitter!

00:48:02.000 Dude, they are already the emperors!

00:48:06.000 Well, it's actually, it's really simple then.

00:48:10.000 I think by outlawing this problem, all we gotta do is ask our politicians to regulate these companies to prevent the foreign interference. 0.79

00:48:17.000 Now, I know the Democrats probably greatly benefit from that interference, but I'm sure they'll see reason.

00:48:23.000 Right?

00:48:24.000 Well, I'll tell you something.

00:48:25.000 On the culmination podcast, I actually interviewed Representative Ken Buck last week, who has introduced a bill to do just that, and it's a bipartisan bill.

00:48:37.000 Hey, that's great.

00:48:38.000 It's a bipartisan bill, and it is more oriented towards antitrust enforcement than to censorship per se, but as we have just demonstrated, they're intimately related.

00:48:53.000 Because if you have the only platform that matters, it doesn't matter whether I've got an alternative.

00:49:01.000 I can go into the room with all the beanbags in it downstairs to scream my head off, so I have freedom of speech, but no one's going to hear me.

00:49:09.000 So after I get you canceled because of this, you know, episode of Tim in Real Life, that's going to be the same thing for you.

00:49:17.000 Imagine if before the internet, Fox News kept putting Vladimir Putin on primetime to talk about how Americans should vote and people listened and they voted the way he said.

00:49:26.000 I mean, that would be insane.

00:49:29.000 You know, we couldn't imagine something like that happening.

00:49:32.000 Then we get four or five years of them screaming that Donald Trump was the benefactor of just that.

00:49:38.000 Well, quite literally, there are foreign governments influencing through social media, either investing in companies and getting some say in them, or actually just being extremely wealthy foreign... high-ranking officials, put it that way, political figures, making demands and promising favors.

00:49:53.000 And it happens.

00:49:54.000 Our political system is corrupted, if that's the case. 0.99

00:49:56.000 And I don't see why, you know, even if, you know, Ken Buck does propose this legislation, I'm not confident, for one, that Democrats would want to give up the freebies they're getting, and the Republicans are too stupid to do anything about it. 0.99

00:50:08.000 So there are a couple things going on. 0.98

00:50:09.000 I asked him, why are Democrats in on this?

00:50:12.000 And I think he acknowledged their concerns are not the same concerns as ours.

00:50:16.000 But there is, to some extent, I think he agreed with my suggestion that now that Trump is gone, whatever that really means, I mean, I think we all understand that he is running the country from a nuclear submarine off the coast.

00:50:34.000 Although many people who are banned from Twitter would probably wish.

00:50:37.000 Fortunately, he's not.

00:50:41.000 Although, I will tell you, if you ask Alexa... Don't turn on, please.

00:50:46.000 It just yelled at me.

00:50:47.000 Alexa, stop! 1.00

00:50:51.000 Apparently... Apparently... I shouldn't say the name ever again.

00:50:55.000 Apparently, it says that Trump is the president.

00:50:58.000 And people are laughing and hooting, like, Amazon says it! 1.00

00:51:03.000 And it's like, okay, dude, it's a stupid computer program. 1.00

00:51:06.000 So... 0.99

00:51:08.000 I must admit that even I lost even I lost the thread there.

00:51:12.000 Sorry about that.

00:51:13.000 No, that's OK.

00:51:14.000 Anything for a good gag. 1.00

00:51:15.000 I'm especially going to get you're talking about asking the Democrats why they were in on it.

00:51:19.000 So there I think the world is a little bit safer for Democrats to actually be Democrats when they don't have to merely oppose something because it benefits Donald Trump.

00:51:36.000 I'm not still sure why there's some, why there seems, I mean, Biden appointed as head of the Federal Trade Commission, so everybody understands, right?

00:51:47.000 There are two agencies in the U.S.

00:51:48.000 government that are mainly in charge of antitrust enforcement.

00:51:52.000 One is the Antitrust Division of the Justice Department.

00:51:56.000 Which is a relatively more political agency compared to the Federal Trade Commission, which focuses more on mergers and acquisitions, but which is also involved in industry shares and domination, because that's obviously part and parcel of acquisitions.

00:52:18.000 That's traditionally considered to be a less political agency.

00:52:21.000 Biden appointed, and she was approved, as FTC Commissioner a woman who has a reputation as being a critic of big tech.

00:52:33.000 Those of us, such as myself, who have been saying for six months that Joe Biden is what is called in Hebrew a golem, meaning basically a zombie.

00:52:47.000 A puppet. 0.90

00:52:49.000 Incapable of independent thought.

00:52:51.000 He's just, you know, Weekend at Bernie's kind of situation.

00:52:57.000 It's hard for me not to believe that, that he is.

00:52:59.000 In which case, for some reason the powers that be either want to do this incredibly elaborate false flag operation.

00:53:06.000 I think at some point you have to start believing that maybe things may appear to be what they are.

00:53:10.000 Or maybe there is still a constituency within the Democrat Party.

00:53:13.000 And by the way, I'm not so sure that the Squad isn't part of that constituency.

00:53:18.000 That doesn't like big business! 0.99

00:53:22.000 And seize these global corporations, because remember, to a real progressive, a preposterous term, to a real leftist, the state has to have all the power.

00:53:36.000 Even if you tell me, well, but no, but Google and all these technology companies have been integrated into their state.

00:53:41.000 They're all the same.

00:53:42.000 Not so fast.

00:53:44.000 They want to be able to press a button as office.

00:53:48.000 So.

00:53:49.000 Well, this is the best they're going to get.

00:53:50.000 I mean, the government can't literally censor, but they can do this highly circuitous method, which, you know, you're now suing over.

00:53:56.000 Right, so if that's the case, if there actually might be some sort of bipartisan, so what we see though is that, so today there was a tweet from Congressman Jordan, Tim Jordan, saying, why would I want to give Joe Biden's regulators more power over business?

00:54:19.000 Answer?

00:54:22.000 What else you got, Jim?

00:54:24.000 What else have you got?

00:54:26.000 Trump certainly wasn't getting anything done.

00:54:28.000 George W. Bush got nothing done.

00:54:32.000 This idea that Republicans should reflexively be the friends of big business is a joke.

00:54:36.000 We see where big business has been on the BLM.

00:54:40.000 This is the thing about Republicans.

00:54:43.000 Too often, they're saying- I opened the door for Tim to trash Republicans.

00:54:48.000 I'm gonna excuse myself for a few minutes now.

00:54:51.000 We'll talk about it.

00:54:52.000 How often have you heard a Republican advocate for something?

00:54:55.000 Like, here's what I want, here's what Republicans need, here's what my constituents are asking for.

00:55:02.000 I hear a lot of the left demanding a moratorium on deportations.

00:55:11.000 I hear the left demanding to shut down the child migrant facilities.

00:55:14.000 I hear the left demanding the defense of the facilities when Biden's Right, it's reactive.

00:55:18.000 the demand that we allow refugees in, I hear the demand for abolishing private health care, 1.00

00:55:23.000 and then I hear Republicans saying, no we shouldn't do that, no we shouldn't do that,

00:55:26.000 no we shouldn't do that.

00:55:27.000 Right, it's reactive.

00:55:28.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene proposes abolishing the ATF.

00:55:31.000 Hey, there's a Republican saying let's do something.

00:55:34.000 So she's gotta be stopped.

00:55:35.000 Well that's exactly what's happening.

00:55:37.000 And the Republicans are helping.

00:55:38.000 Preposterous.

00:55:39.000 Yeah, they do.

00:55:40.000 So not only do the Republicans very rarely ever actually propose anything for their constituents, but when you finally get someone who does, Marjorie Taylor Greene, they're actively attacking her from the Republican Party.

00:55:40.000 That's right.

00:55:52.000 That's right.

00:55:53.000 I'll tell you something about her.

00:55:55.000 Am I allowed to rag on Republicans for that?

00:55:57.000 Am I right?

00:55:58.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:55:59.000 I mean, listen, if Harmeet were sitting here, my partner, Harmeet Dhillon, says she's a big muckety-muck in the Republican Party, but I'm not, and she knows that I'm not.

00:56:08.000 So I have to be gentle, but I don't have to be as... Actually, she's not so gentle either.

00:56:13.000 She's got her issues. 1.00

00:56:14.000 I will tell you that Marjorie Taylor Greene... I had a column in The Forward, which is a Jewish publication.

00:56:24.000 It used to be the predominant Yiddish language Jewish newspaper in New York, explaining that when Marjorie Taylor Greene said about The vaccination badges being equivalent to the yellow stars that the Jews had to wear in pre-war Europe.

00:56:43.000 I'm sorry, during the war in Germany, also pre-war Germany.

00:56:47.000 And everyone clutched their pearls.

00:56:51.000 Oy, the antisemitism!

00:56:53.000 I don't know a Jewish, an Orthodox Jew didn't make that joke in 2020. 0.97

00:56:59.000 What are they going to make us do next?

00:57:00.000 Wear yellow stockings?

00:57:08.000 Everyone made that because they were drawing red lines around Jewish neighborhoods and Jewish synagogues in places like Rockland County, New York.

00:57:18.000 Another lawsuit that I brought.

00:57:20.000 They were chaining parks shut?

00:57:24.000 You'd have the same, and there would be no epidemiological basis for it.

00:57:29.000 It was just, how do we keep these Hasidim out of this synagogue? 1.00

00:57:33.000 Because it's understood the Hasidim are the problem. 1.00

00:57:36.000 And they were drawing lines like up driveways and around flower beds.

00:57:40.000 I mean, crazy stuff!

00:57:46.000 Everyone knew what was going on and the reference to being treated like, you know, Jews in a ghetto was ubiquitous.

00:57:57.000 And these people who were all of a sudden standing up and offended by Marjorie Taylor Greene, Where were they when Israel's compared to the Nazis?

00:58:12.000 Silent!

00:58:13.000 They don't care! 0.92

00:58:14.000 Right now I'm seeing leftists post, how dare they deny communion to Joe Biden?

00:58:19.000 And I'm like, when have you ever cared about the bishop's rulings on Catholic doctrine?

00:58:25.000 When has Joe Biden ever cared?

00:58:29.000 All of a sudden they're like, Jumping out of the woodwork to clutch other people's pearls about religion they never liked in the first place.

00:58:37.000 Joe, you're out of bed again.

00:58:38.000 What's the problem?

00:58:40.000 I just haven't had communion another Sunday without the wafer.

00:58:44.000 I am outraged.

00:58:46.000 How dare they deny, Joe.

00:58:49.000 These are people who rag on the church all day and night, now flabbergasted and outraged and making demands.

00:58:57.000 And I'm just like, You know what, man?

00:58:59.000 I, I, I, I, these, these people who are active on Twitter in these arguments, they can't possibly believe the things they're saying, can they?

00:59:09.000 Like, how do you, how do you rag on Christianity over and over again?

00:59:14.000 There's entire Reddits, subreddits dedicated to this, and then all of a sudden now be outraged that Joe Biden has been denied his communion.

00:59:20.000 Well, you know, I had a recent opportunity to, to, to wade into those waters myself recently when somebody said, Well, nobody really believes in Leviticus anymore.

00:59:29.000 Excuse me?

00:59:35.000 You know, no one really does.

00:59:38.000 Actually, no.

00:59:38.000 Everything.

00:59:40.000 Well, are you sacrificing?

00:59:42.000 No, no.

00:59:42.000 You have to understand how Jewish law works, okay?

00:59:48.000 There are conditions that have to be met.

00:59:50.000 They don't want to hear about it.

00:59:51.000 So, your question, do they really believe this?

00:59:55.000 Answer?

00:59:56.000 Yeah, they do.

00:59:57.000 Because, you know, about seven or eight years ago, I think it is now, they made a change to Twitter to reduce conflict.

01:00:07.000 And they enhanced the siloization, the ghettoization of Twitter.

01:00:13.000 And to some extent it has reduced conflict.

01:00:15.000 I think it's not, there's something to be said for what they did.

01:00:18.000 Because you're not always fighting with people.

01:00:21.000 On the other hand, you don't want it to be like Parlor where it's just a bunch of people nonstop screaming MAGA MAGA, you know, it's completely it's boring.

01:00:28.000 It's I mean, but what they did was that was People really reinforced their prejudices.

01:00:41.000 And there's this constant bias confirmation.

01:00:44.000 And it doesn't have to come from new facts.

01:00:46.000 It could just come from those likes.

01:00:47.000 Right.

01:00:48.000 And come from those retweets that you see.

01:00:50.000 I'm right about this. 1.00

01:00:51.000 So just like the casual the casual hatred and the casual repetition of how stupid Donald Trump. 1.00

01:00:57.000 I mean the things that people convinced themselves of that weren't even necessary. 1.00

01:01:04.000 Oh my gosh!

01:01:06.000 So I've got this case where I'm representing Carpi Duncan.

01:01:10.000 Remember Carpi Duncan?

01:01:11.000 Oh yeah, where's he been?

01:01:12.000 Well, they kicked him off Twitter.

01:01:13.000 That's right.

01:01:14.000 And the reason they kicked him off Twitter was because of a copyright claim that had supposedly been made against him because he did a meme with the two little kids, the white toddler and the black toddler.

01:01:25.000 There was no copyright claim.

01:01:27.000 It was fake.

01:01:30.000 They just needed an excuse to get him off Twitter.

01:01:34.000 So the people who made the claim, the original people who made that video, sued Carpe in New York State Court, Logan Cook, for this preposterous series of claims that he was misleading and basically everything but defamation, but it was basically defamation, defaming these two little toddlers.

01:02:00.000 Nobody even knows who they are.

01:02:02.000 And we had oral argument on our motion to dismiss via Zoom last week.

01:02:08.000 And the lawyer for the plaintiffs is arguing to this New York State Supreme Court judge,

01:02:21.000 and we all know that Supreme Court in New York doesn't mean the highest court,

01:02:25.000 it means just bigger than the other courts like the civil court and the traffic court,

01:02:30.000 that they really had a good claim here because .

01:02:37.000 Donald Trump.

01:02:38.000 First one of the Donald everything Donald Trump.

01:02:41.000 Oh, so one of our defenses was this can't be a violation of sections 1551 of the New York Civil Rights Law because those only deal with the misappropriation of a person's likeness in connection with a sale or advertisement or product or good.

01:02:57.000 And this is just a meme.

01:02:59.000 Poor old copy did.

01:03:03.000 And they said no because really he did it to please his master Donald Trump, completely made up.

01:03:09.000 And Trump, it's well established that everything Trump did during his presidency was meant to enrich him personally.

01:03:17.000 And the judge looked at this guy, now to be a judge in New York, in the state of New York, in the city of New York, in the county of New York, you're a Democrat, okay?

01:03:28.000 He looked at this guy as if he were from Mars.

01:03:32.000 You're saying everything Donald Trump did.

01:03:38.000 Was so that he could make money?

01:03:39.000 He said, well, yeah, because look, he made all these golf tournaments.

01:03:43.000 Didn't Barack Obama get a pretty nice book deal after he left office?

01:03:49.000 Are we going to say that everything a politician does while in office is commercial?

01:03:55.000 But this lawyer was arguing it was like blood was going to come out of his eyes.

01:04:00.000 Or whatever.

01:04:01.000 He was so committed to the truth.

01:04:04.000 In other words, he knew this to be true.

01:04:07.000 The way you and I know that H2O is what makes up water.

01:04:12.000 He knew it!

01:04:14.000 People believe these myths that Donald Trump absolutely, you know, worked for the Russians.

01:04:21.000 That he personally benefited economically from being president and that's the only reason he did it. 0.97

01:04:26.000 That he's a racist!

01:04:28.000 I'm a New Yorker. 0.78

01:04:30.000 Donald Trump has been part of the scene in New York that I've been aware of for 40 years for me.

01:04:40.000 In other words, since I was born.

01:04:43.000 You never, ever, ever heard anyone call him a racist.

01:04:47.000 It was just— It was the opposite.

01:04:47.000 He won awards.

01:04:49.000 Yeah, you know, those rewards are pretty much negotiable currency.

01:04:52.000 Let's not kid ourselves about that.

01:04:54.000 I love using the pictures with him and Jesse Jacks.

01:04:56.000 That's fine.

01:04:57.000 But the point is, they believe it with their hearts. 0.94

01:05:02.000 Trump is an anti-Semite. 0.99

01:05:03.000 His grandchildren are Jewish! 1.00

01:05:05.000 The worst kind. 0.98

01:05:08.000 Well, let's take that up with Mr. Eric Weinstein.

01:05:11.000 So, Eric has a tweet thread saying, essentially, that no one really believes in woke ideology.

01:05:17.000 So, I had a conversation about this last week, but let's read what Eric says.

01:05:22.000 And I'm going to say this, I agree with him, but I'll read.

01:05:25.000 Eric says, hyper unpopular view.

01:05:27.000 I don't think a single person on earth believes woke ideology.

01:05:31.000 Any soul who truly, quote, identifies as an eagle would be instantly eliminated by testing the hypothesis.

01:05:40.000 I think he's implying the person would, like, you know, jump off a building.

01:05:43.000 But I don't know who identifies as an eagle, so.

01:05:45.000 But he says a person who believed 2 plus 2 equals 5 would be unable to file taxes.

01:05:49.000 That's a real good point.

01:05:50.000 If you're going to make a semantic argument about integers and what determines 2 plus 2 equaling 4 or 5, how do you function on a day-to-day basis?

01:05:59.000 But I'll read on.

01:06:00.000 He says, Get woke, go broke is nowhere near extreme enough.

01:06:03.000 Truly believing in wokeness could get you jailed or killed. 0.99

01:06:06.000 My hypothesis is that every single soul espousing wokeness, critical theory, etc.

01:06:11.000 is doing so disingenuously and without exception.

01:06:13.000 That is why it can't be defeated by reason.

01:06:16.000 Wokeness is reveling in the idea that it makes no sense.

01:06:19.000 The only ones believing it are those fighting it.

01:06:21.000 Further, this is why inclusion is at its core a strategy.

01:06:25.000 Because the remedy for wokeness wasting the energy of the developed world by boring us to death is to exclude it. 0.98

01:06:31.000 Not on the basis of it being wrong, but because the saboteur must always be excluded from civic life.

01:06:36.000 Let me give other positions so extreme they are prima facie disingenuous.

01:06:40.000 Crypto, toxic Bitcoin maximalism, hyper conservatives.

01:06:44.000 We need a strong defense in a dangerous world, but also all taxes, theft, etc.

01:06:48.000 All of these are parasitic on someone else being the adult.

01:06:52.000 I agree with him that the woke do not believe any of their ideology.

01:06:57.000 And I don't know of anybody who identifies as an eagle, so I don't know what that's a reference to.

01:07:03.000 But I understand the point he's trying to make, to a certain degree.

01:07:06.000 I do think the 2 plus 2 equaling 5 is a good point to be made. 0.72

01:07:10.000 Because it is a hill they're absolutely willing to die on.

01:07:14.000 Where now you have, I think, like an MIT mathematician coming out making a video explaining how 2 plus 2 could equal 5.

01:07:20.000 And if that's an assumption you could make, then at what point in your taxes do you say, I think this one's gonna be a 4 and that one's gonna be a 5?

01:07:27.000 Well, there are a couple of things.

01:07:29.000 One is that because what we're calling the Wokeness Initiative, I added the word initiative, the initiative of what we're calling Wokeness is destructive and subversive.

01:07:48.000 They want to live in a world where they can say to the IRS, Oh no, I say it's five.

01:07:54.000 And to say I'm wrong makes you a racist.

01:07:57.000 Right.

01:07:58.000 It gives them the ability to determine when it is true or not to benefit themselves.

01:08:01.000 So his argument that, no, that won't work because you'll go to the bank.

01:08:05.000 He wants to be able to go into the bank and get changed for a ten and come back with a hundred.

01:08:11.000 That's part of the goal.

01:08:13.000 But I think there's another problem here, which is that he tends to hang around with very smart people, like you and me. 0.98

01:08:20.000 But we know more dumb people than he does. 1.00

01:08:23.000 There are a lot of really dumb people. 1.00

01:08:27.000 Michael Malice. 1.00

01:08:28.000 Midwits. 1.00

01:08:29.000 Not even that dumb. 1.00

01:08:30.000 Well, they're actually smart. 1.00

01:08:32.000 Midwits.

01:08:32.000 Smart enough to simulate high intelligence.

01:08:37.000 But in fact to be mediocre thinkers.

01:08:41.000 Who, I believe, are buying it.

01:08:44.000 And they are, because we're underestimating the power, the marvelous, wonderful power of cognitive dissonance.

01:08:53.000 If it doesn't add up, it will come to... We all read 1984.

01:08:57.000 You come around, eventually, to believing the right thing, because it lets your brain relax, the social pressure is off.

01:09:08.000 Yes, I am a racist.

01:09:10.000 You know what I've said a million times and no one ever retweets it because they're afraid? 0.98

01:09:18.000 If all these white chicks, and they're mostly chicks, hating themselves for being white, hating themselves for being, hating whiteness and wishing, if they woke up They would walk right out the window. 1.00

01:09:36.000 They would kill themselves. 1.00

01:09:38.000 They're racists. 1.00

01:09:39.000 They would... They're the biggest racists in the world! 1.00

01:09:43.000 And if you disagree with me, you're... you're... you are a racist. 1.00

01:09:48.000 Because...

01:09:50.000 If I'm wrong, then there is not actually systemic racism. 0.97

01:09:59.000 And if I'm right that there is systemic racism, we see that the systemic racism makes hypocrites out of all these people bemoaning their whiteness. 0.97

01:10:08.000 Pretty good, huh? 0.98

01:10:09.000 Ron Coleman for the win.

01:10:10.000 Well, yeah.

01:10:11.000 I don't think that... The way I described it last week is I don't think they actually believe this stuff because it's impossible to believe two contradictory things at the same time.

01:10:19.000 Unless, of course, we're suggesting they're suffering from cognitive dissonance.

01:10:23.000 These are the kind of people that will say, the sky is blue and the sky is green to your face in the same sentence.

01:10:28.000 They can't simultaneously... Well, do what you say.

01:10:31.000 Say that they are racists, and that racists are bad, but they are good.

01:10:36.000 That's just... I'll tell you this.

01:10:38.000 You ever see those videos where it's like a white guy's like on TikTok, and he's like telling everybody how racist he is? 0.83

01:10:42.000 If anybody ever came up to me, a white person, and started talking about critical race theory or critical theory, and then said that they were a racist, I'd be like, and now you can stop talking because you're a racist, and it's time for you to sit down to listen. 0.99

01:10:54.000 Congratulations, your own ideology says shut up. 0.99

01:10:54.000 No. 0.99

01:10:57.000 Sit down.

01:10:58.000 But nobody does this.

01:10:59.000 No.

01:10:59.000 You know, one of the things that really bothers me is I keep hearing about people

01:11:02.000 quitting their jobs because they're being trained critical race theory, things like

01:11:04.000 this.

01:11:05.000 And I'm like, so what you're telling me is that they, your workplace is violating the

01:11:09.000 civil rights act of 1964.

01:11:10.000 Is that title seven?

01:11:11.000 I think.

01:11:11.000 And you just quit.

01:11:13.000 You see, here's the problem.

01:11:15.000 These leftists will use anything to claim as racism, and they'll get away with it.

01:11:21.000 How about this?

01:11:22.000 We had this story out of Seattle that I'll just pull up.

01:11:25.000 Reparations fee to be charged for white people at Seattle Gay Pride event.

01:11:30.000 Well, we're now hearing the Seattle Human Rights Commission has dismissed the complaint, saying that, well, you know, you got to look at history and recognize that this is actually okay.

01:11:38.000 All right.

01:11:39.000 So they're willing to look at overt racial discrimination and say it's not.

01:11:45.000 Okay, now I understand this is a challenge.

01:11:47.000 The EEOC may be full of woke individuals who refuse to accept your complaints.

01:11:51.000 But if you work at a company, the moment someone says the word white anything, you can now claim they're being racist.

01:12:00.000 It's their rules.

01:12:01.000 For example, here's what I've said on the show before.

01:12:05.000 If they say, we're gonna have a discussion on white privilege, you just stop them and say, excuse me?

01:12:09.000 Did you just bring all these people in here to learn about White benefits? 1.00

01:12:15.000 Like, why it's better to be white? 0.99

01:12:17.000 Do you think that's okay?

01:12:18.000 To like, why don't we have a conversation about non-whiteness?

01:12:21.000 Why did you think whiteness was the appropriate subject? 0.99

01:12:22.000 You're a racist, you're a white supremacist, you're having a Klan meeting. 0.98

01:12:24.000 No matter what they say, the moment they say anything related to race, you can claim racism. 1.00

01:12:30.000 The right doesn't do this.

01:12:31.000 And perhaps because they think they're fighting fair.

01:12:34.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:12:36.000 You know, if you think you're playing... You know, let me slow down.

01:12:40.000 I'll do a different analogy.

01:12:41.000 We're playing a game Monopoly.

01:12:43.000 We're watching the other side pull bills out of the bank, in front of our faces, and we go, hey, wait, you can't do that.

01:12:49.000 And they're like, yeah, I can.

01:12:50.000 And you go, okay.

01:12:51.000 And you keep playing.

01:12:52.000 And then you're like, why do I keep losing?

01:12:53.000 I don't understand.

01:12:54.000 How did you have so much money to buy boardwalk and park place and put hotels on it?

01:12:58.000 I don't know.

01:12:59.000 I guess I'll never figure it out.

01:13:00.000 But I did see you taking all that money you're not supposed to do.

01:13:02.000 Oh well.

01:13:03.000 That sounds like the discussion about the election audits.

01:13:08.000 In what way?

01:13:08.000 What do you mean?

01:13:09.000 Why are you suppressing votes by doing election audits?

01:13:15.000 You see the Colorado woman?

01:13:16.000 She was like, we're banning fraud-its.

01:13:18.000 Yeah, that was funny because I was like, Colorado, no one asked you.

01:13:21.000 You're not one of the states.

01:13:23.000 So I liken it to like you're sitting in a meeting and someone just goes, I didn't fart.

01:13:26.000 And then you're like...

01:13:28.000 No one said anything, dude!

01:13:30.000 But are we in for a surprise in the next few minutes?

01:13:32.000 Yeah, right.

01:13:33.000 In a few seconds, people are going to start to notice.

01:13:35.000 And then it's like, if someone just randomly blurted that out, you'd be like, uh... Where'd that come from?

01:13:39.000 Did you fart?

01:13:40.000 Like, why did you say that?

01:13:41.000 So that's, you know, she blurts it out.

01:13:43.000 But, um... But anyway, in reference to, uh... You're talking about a level of courage that the vast majority of people don't have.

01:13:51.000 Conservatives?

01:13:52.000 Anti-establishment?

01:13:53.000 The right?

01:13:53.000 Regular people.

01:13:54.000 Well, then the left is full of not-regular people.

01:13:58.000 No, it takes no courage to follow the current that has been cut for you by the leaders in culture.

01:14:09.000 Then it should take no courage for someone who opposes this to just ride the wave and say, that's racist.

01:14:15.000 Don't say it again.

01:14:16.000 I'm writing it down.

01:14:18.000 Do you think that this, this HR, let me tell you this, you got an HR director, middle-aged white woman, and she's given a brochure about diversity initiatives.

01:14:26.000 Are you white or black?

01:14:27.000 start huffing and puffing about how she's saying racist things, do you think 1.00

01:14:30.000 this woman's gonna, do you think she's gonna keep going, risk her job? Or do you 1.00

01:14:33.000 think she's gonna be like, I don't know. Are you white or black? Doesn't matter. 0.73

01:14:37.000 Oh yes it does. I don't think it does. The people leading the charge like

01:14:41.000 Robyn D'Angelo are white and they're the ones coming up making the demands and 1.00

01:14:44.000 they're getting their way. Are they? Yes, yeah, that she's getting paid tens of 0.94

01:14:48.000 thousands of dollars to go teach at universities and her applied critical

01:14:52.000 race theory is appearing in schools across the country.

01:14:54.000 She's getting it.

01:14:54.000 Right.

01:14:55.000 She's getting everything she wants.

01:14:56.000 No, no, no. 0.94

01:14:57.000 But to protest against her, you can't be white. 0.85

01:15:03.000 No, no, no, you're not!

01:15:04.000 You can grift, and here it is used properly, you can grift from this system, this ecosystem of grievance and fiction and whatever it is, and be white.

01:15:20.000 But you can't push back against it and be white. 0.98

01:15:23.000 So hold on, let me write this down. 0.52

01:15:26.000 If a white person like Robin DiAngelo says, this system is racist.

01:15:31.000 She's allowed to do it.

01:15:33.000 And then if you say literally the same thing, you can't.

01:15:37.000 If you're white.

01:15:38.000 I'm not sure I follow.

01:15:39.000 If I say literally the same thing, I can say it, but it's the next thing that I say that you're talking about.

01:15:46.000 So, like, you're in a diversity meeting and you have a white woman speaking at your HR meeting and you accuse her of being racist.

01:15:46.000 No, no, no.

01:15:53.000 Try it on me.

01:15:53.000 Okay, so you just said to me your little magic formula you think is going to solve this problem.

01:15:59.000 Mr. Coleman, I don't understand why you're allowed to talk about white privilege.

01:16:05.000 That makes it sound like it's better to be white. 1.00

01:16:06.000 No, no, no.

01:16:07.000 I didn't say to say that.

01:16:09.000 Say, why are you having us having a meeting centered around white people? 1.00

01:16:12.000 Why are white people- Because white people are the problem. 0.99

01:16:17.000 White people are dominating- White people have dominated the cultural and historical- So are you a white supremacist? 1.00

01:16:25.000 On the contrary. 1.00

01:16:26.000 I'm going to report you to the EEOC if you say one more word, you bigot! 0.96

01:16:30.000 I am not going to sit here and listen to you talk about your white supremacist views in front of me and after everything my family's been through! 0.99

01:16:36.000 Say it one more time and I will go to your boss! 1.00

01:16:38.000 Sir. 1.00

01:16:39.000 Say it one more time, you white supremacist! 0.97

01:16:42.000 And then you go to the EEOC, and here's what you say. 0.98

01:16:42.000 I'm writing it down. 0.98

01:16:46.000 It's like a sitcom.

01:16:46.000 see and you say okay so you're we're now gonna just do like on a TV show and just

01:16:51.000 show the next scene after the extremely unlikely stuff happen sitcom fade to the

01:16:58.000 next okay I think you misunderstand that I was like you think that you see you

01:17:03.000 what you demonstrated was nothing but courage you demonstrated that you're

01:17:08.000 willing to being Tim pool and having a lot of confidence and having a certain

01:17:13.000 station in life and being a guy with a certain amount of testosterone that

01:17:16.000 you're prepared to really push this and to try to intimidate a midwit a 1.00

01:17:23.000 professional midwit Most people won't do that.

01:17:26.000 Perhaps. I've done it and I've won on multiple occasions.

01:17:29.000 You're Tim Pool!

01:17:31.000 So when I was making ten bucks an hour working for political fundraising

01:17:37.000 organizations, or I should say when I did fundraising, I've sued two

01:17:41.000 organizations and won doing exactly as I've described. That's why you're Tim

01:17:45.000 Pool today. Perhaps. So if people just use the system as it existed they'd start

01:17:49.000 winning. The problem is... People like you, but most people aren't like you. Take it from me

01:17:52.000 because I'm more like you than I'm like the other people.

01:17:55.000 The left is doing this.

01:17:56.000 Does the left have more courageous people than the right?

01:17:59.000 Then why do they keep doing it?

01:17:59.000 No.

01:18:01.000 Why are they the ones to file EEOC complaints and win?

01:18:04.000 Because the EEOC is owned by them.

01:18:08.000 Because the press is owned by them.

01:18:09.000 Because the courts are owned by them.

01:18:11.000 Because the academia is owned by them.

01:18:14.000 They had a system in place, especially in academia.

01:18:20.000 And in the corporate world, it turns out, to everyone's surprise, no one was ready for this.

01:18:24.000 And as well as the Attorneys General.

01:18:26.000 They worked their way very, very brilliantly into a number of very, very important institutions in American life.

01:18:35.000 The academia project goes back already even before I was born.

01:18:40.000 But the fruit of that has been that in all the sectors where ideas are filtered for acceptability, The left owns them.

01:18:54.000 No.

01:18:55.000 I'm not going to let you ask me something. 0.99

01:18:57.000 White supremacist. 0.95

01:18:58.000 let you ask me something. 0.70

01:18:59.000 If somebody went to the EEOC and said, my HR director made a bunch of racist comments

01:19:04.000 and I asked them to stop and they refused, what do you think the EEOC would say?

01:19:08.000 What were the comments?

01:19:09.000 I'm not going to repeat them.

01:19:11.000 I mean it was disparaging things about race.

01:19:12.000 They were talking about how races are better than others.

01:19:14.000 Mr. Poole, please, when you have a chance, when you cool down a little bit, write down the comments for us, because we can't proceed unless we have a detailed explanation of what was made.

01:19:25.000 And also give us the names of everyone else who was at the meeting.

01:19:27.000 We can describe what these comments were, and we will then send it over to the very big warehouse over there where they keep the Ark of the Covenant.

01:19:35.000 And we'll get back to you as soon as possible.

01:19:37.000 We'll have top people looking.

01:19:38.000 So let me ask you, why is it that when I went to these agencies on more than one, on two occasions, and did exactly as I describe, it worked? 0.99

01:19:47.000 Because you've got balls! 1.00

01:19:50.000 No, no, that's irrelevant. 0.99

01:19:51.000 First of all, when was it?

01:19:52.000 When was it?

01:19:52.000 This was 13 years ago?

01:19:53.000 13 and 14 years ago.

01:19:55.000 4,013 years ago.

01:19:55.000 ago? 13 and 14 years ago. 4,013 years ago. So much has changed in the last 13 years,

01:20:03.000 Tim. So much has changed.

01:20:05.000 It is mind-boggling.

01:20:06.000 You're advocating for people to not use the legal system as it stands and make an attempt.

01:20:12.000 Far be it from me to do that. 0.99

01:20:14.000 I'm a schmuck who, like you, keeps knocking his head against the wall expecting a different result. 0.99

01:20:18.000 I'm all in favor of that. 0.99

01:20:20.000 But you're asking the empirical question, why isn't everyone doing it? 0.99

01:20:25.000 Because there aren't so many schmucks like Coleman and Poole! 0.98

01:20:27.000 Here's the question. 0.99

01:20:28.000 Why is the left doing it?

01:20:32.000 Rewind.

01:20:33.000 Academia?

01:20:35.000 That's not answering the question.

01:20:35.000 Courts?

01:20:36.000 I say it is answering the question!

01:20:39.000 So, leftists know that because they inherently control all the institutions, they can file a complaint and win.

01:20:45.000 And because conservatives are demoralized, they won't even try.

01:20:47.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 Okay.

01:20:51.000 Now that we've recognized that, conservatives should say, oh, okay, I'll go out and try.

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:56.000 Problem solved.

01:20:57.000 There you go.

01:20:59.000 Ron and Tim, we've done it.

01:21:01.000 So, when I went to these meetings, they didn't ask me for a verbatim recollection of what happened because that's impossible to produce.

01:21:10.000 I said, to the best of my understanding, they made comments about this, that or otherwise, and... That won't happen now.

01:21:17.000 They won't happen now.

01:21:19.000 Companies have changed, not in 13 years, not in three years, in two years.

01:21:27.000 A close family member of mine worked in Microsoft and said, you know, as big corporations go, they have their kind of mandatory mealy mouth, you know, stuff about diversity, but it's pretty cool.

01:21:39.000 I've got a feeling things are really done here.

01:21:41.000 In the last two years, it turned into a nightmare.

01:21:47.000 In the last two years.

01:21:50.000 Corporate America is cowed.

01:21:51.000 The judiciary is cowed.

01:21:54.000 Things have changed a great deal.

01:21:56.000 And I'll tell you something else, Tim.

01:22:01.000 This is a related phenomenon.

01:22:05.000 I had to leave two law firms in a row because I was taking on cases.

01:22:13.000 Where my partner said, well you're representing a side that has a really bad reputation.

01:22:20.000 Gavin McInnes, or Gab, they're associated with Nazis.

01:22:27.000 No, no, no.

01:22:28.000 I'm taking on those cases because they're being wrongly associated with Nazis.

01:22:32.000 I'm trying to vindicate their reputations.

01:22:36.000 Yeah, but, you know, we have interns and we have vendors and we have clients.

01:22:43.000 Some of them are Holocaust survivors.

01:22:45.000 Some of them are, you know, we give money to this, you know, affirmative action program.

01:22:57.000 We just can't and you know I understand if you've got a law firm that you've built up over 50 or 100 years and you're an equity partner in that organization and you have a stake in it and Ron Coleman wants to sweep in and be the guy who's gonna show the world that Gavin McInnes isn't Isn't a racist or an extremist.

01:23:24.000 Or show the world that Gab is entitled to sue Google because they are monopolists.

01:23:32.000 Well, maybe, Ron, you might want to do that.

01:23:34.000 You might even be right, but it's working very well for the rest of us to not do that.

01:23:40.000 And we can do without your revenue.

01:23:42.000 We like what you're practicing.

01:23:45.000 Thank God I'm with Harmeet Dhillon now, and she takes on not the craziest cases, but relatively crazy cases.

01:23:51.000 Because they're not so crazy.

01:23:53.000 So that's the analog to what we're talking about here, is that it's an uphill battle, but yes, we have to do it!

01:24:00.000 We have to do it!

01:24:01.000 So I'm curious, like, these firms you describe, they're very worried about the threats or accusations.

01:24:09.000 Couldn't anyone of any political persuasion just weaponize that by claiming, I'm going to accuse you of it, what are you going to do about it?

01:24:15.000 I mean, you don't say it like that, obviously.

01:24:17.000 But what if one of these interns was, you know, a far-right, and they were like, you know what?

01:24:22.000 I'm sick of it.

01:24:23.000 My pronouns are flobbidy-flobbidy.

01:24:26.000 Don't use my pronouns, and I'll file... I mean, in New York, for instance, it's a human rights violation with a fine of up to $250,000 for willful misuse of someone's pronouns.

01:24:35.000 Right, and that's unconstitutional, and eventually that will be thrown out on First Amendment grounds, but... But it'll need challenging, which means it'll need a legal case.

01:24:48.000 Also, someone will have to attempt it against a company who will have to then defend themselves.

01:24:52.000 I'll do you one better.

01:24:53.000 When we were involved in these COVID lockdown cases, Harmeet and I, we would identify a location where there was something.

01:25:01.000 For example, these Rockland County cases.

01:25:04.000 We had trouble finding people who would allow their names to be used as plaintiffs.

01:25:11.000 We had funding for these cases.

01:25:12.000 They weren't going out of pocket.

01:25:14.000 They weren't going to spend any money.

01:25:16.000 We just need you to be the complainant.

01:25:20.000 Can someone else do it?

01:25:22.000 I want my rights vindicated, but I want someone else to vindicate them for me.

01:25:26.000 That's the problem.

01:25:27.000 That's true.

01:25:28.000 Yeah.

01:25:29.000 In that case...

01:25:31.000 Freedom deserves to lose.

01:25:33.000 But since we won't let it, we'll keep knocking our heads against the wall.

01:25:38.000 You have to fight the good fight.

01:25:39.000 We have a concept in Jewish ethics that you're not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to desist from it.

01:25:49.000 And as long as we're here, and we are here, and we have our faculties, and we have our testosterone, and our beanies... Several.

01:26:01.000 Big ones and little ones.

01:26:04.000 We gotta fight.

01:26:06.000 We gotta fight.

01:26:06.000 And that means we're gonna make less money than the people who are taking the easier road and we're gonna be called Nazis and we're gonna have, you know, get postcards with swastikas on them and crossed out swastikas like I got when the Gavin case was in the news.

01:26:26.000 That's just the price of allowing meaning and a sense of mission becloud your better judgment for comfort and Wealth.

01:26:43.000 It's an exploitation of capitalism in a lot of ways.

01:26:46.000 The willingness for big corporations to be subverted for the right price.

01:26:49.000 China exploits it to a great deal. 0.80

01:26:51.000 Well, I will tell you that I am a little... You know, I mentioned before that I used to do a lot of trademark work.

01:26:56.000 And in fact, for many years, I'm just not doing it anymore because I think blogging doesn't really matter.

01:27:01.000 I'm also less interested in the topic, but I had a trademark blog called Likelihood of Confusion at likelihoodofconfusion.com that was considered to be a, you know, a pretty important And one of the things I noticed, so I'm very interested in branding and marketing and I have been astonished at the process of co-option by radical movements, by marketing companies

01:27:29.000 And I remain convinced, and someone told me there's a really good book about this, and I forgot who wrote it, about how this happened.

01:27:36.000 But I am convinced that in the long term, it is, because I'm an economics major perhaps, this cannot last.

01:27:47.000 I wish I remembered maybe, was it you?

01:27:49.000 Somebody, was it you?

01:27:51.000 Someone tweeted a picture of a bunch of models.

01:27:55.000 That was me.

01:27:56.000 The Victoria's Secret thing.

01:27:56.000 It was you.

01:27:58.000 Not girls you want to marry, necessarily.

01:28:04.000 We're not going to use beautiful girls anymore. 1.00

01:28:08.000 You signaled your virtue.

01:28:10.000 Now sell some panties. 1.00

01:28:13.000 Ladies want to see pretty ladies in the things they want to buy because they want to see themselves as the pretty ladies. 1.00

01:28:21.000 Exactly.

01:28:22.000 And no matter how, you can't, so you can't, the market will not lie.

01:28:28.000 And this is the grandest challenge to the American way of life, of all the things we've spoken about.

01:28:37.000 The idea that an advertisement will try to convince you that the fantasy world that Madison Avenue has sold us since World War II should not be the fantasy life of comfort and good looks, but should be the fantasy life of obesity, disgustingness, slovenliness, and I think it ain't gonna work.

01:28:57.000 Well, I'll push back a little bit.

01:28:58.000 I will say, Get Woke, Go Broke, not a law, but does have its tendencies.

01:29:04.000 There are some things that Get Woke can do well.

01:29:06.000 As much as Captain Marvel got flack from a lot of people to film, it made, I think, a billion dollars.

01:29:11.000 So, they just say, okay, well, we'll try and do better next time, but we'll still push a lot of the same stuff.

01:29:15.000 Now, when it comes to Victoria's Secret, the Dove Real Beauty campaign happened a long time ago.

01:29:20.000 They still push forward on it.

01:29:22.000 And I think what people need to understand about this is, yeah, women want to see themselves as the pretty lady, right? 0.98

01:29:28.000 But what happens when the average body mass index is on the rise in the United States, and many of those women are chowing down on a pint of Ben & Jerry's every night? 1.00

01:29:38.000 Oh no, you got it backwards, buddy.

01:29:40.000 I want to think that even though I can't fit into my wedding dress, that if I buy that, how do you say chemise?

01:29:52.000 I'll look that way.

01:29:53.000 I'll look close enough to that.

01:29:55.000 Does Coleman get it?

01:29:57.000 I'll look close enough to that that my husband will turn off the TV next Friday night.

01:30:03.000 Right.

01:30:04.000 Maybe, but there's got to be a limit.

01:30:06.000 I mean, at a certain point, someone who's more abundantly obese knows they're not going to look that way.

01:30:11.000 So they have to justify it by saying, you're fatphobic and then demanding body positive models, which they do.

01:30:16.000 They're fooling no one.

01:30:18.000 And let me tell you something else.

01:30:19.000 There's a lot of that lying going on.

01:30:21.000 And to me, that's one of the reasons this will fall apart. 0.90

01:30:28.000 I am so comfortable with homosexuality, with gay people. 0.98

01:30:33.000 My two friends, Kevin and Bruce, got married and they were making out under the canopy and it was so beautiful. 0.84

01:30:42.000 You're lying!

01:30:44.000 You were nauseated.

01:30:46.000 You were nauseated. 0.79

01:30:47.000 Not because you're against homosexuals. 0.95

01:30:48.000 Not because you want to go into their bedrooms. 0.86

01:30:50.000 Not because you want to arrest them.

01:30:51.000 Because you're a heterosexual person, and you don't like to see men kissing.

01:30:56.000 You just don't dare admit it.

01:30:57.000 And in fact, you'll go so far to claim that you're cool with it, that you'll lie about it!

01:31:03.000 But when the men get together, and the women get together, and they think they're safe, what do they say about something that they think is uncool or creepy? 0.98

01:31:12.000 So gay. 1.00

01:31:14.000 Yeah, but that's just like a grunt at this point. 0.85

01:31:19.000 Saying things instinctively that don't have any meaning other than some kind of negative connotation.

01:31:23.000 But I disagree on the dudes making out thing.

01:31:26.000 I think there's a lot of people that don't care.

01:31:28.000 I think the number of people that don't care is far, far smaller than you think it is.

01:31:34.000 Unless you're one of those guys in which case you can tell me that you're cool with it.

01:31:38.000 I have a hard time believing it.

01:31:41.000 I think, and by the way, again, I couldn't care less if they do it.

01:31:47.000 But, I mean, our references in this area are so off the chart that we don't even know where the center is anymore.

01:31:58.000 Let me ask you, have you ever seen the movie Mask?

01:32:01.000 The guy with the crazy face?

01:32:02.000 No, I don't really see a lot of movies.

01:32:04.000 No, not The Mask. 0.72

01:32:06.000 There's a movie Mask where a guy's face is like, y'all crazy.

01:32:11.000 There's an old Mad Magazine trope about... You remember Mad Magazine?

01:32:17.000 Oh, of course.

01:32:18.000 Public displays of affection.

01:32:19.000 And one of them was... It was two fat people kissing and holding hands. 0.70

01:32:25.000 And everyone's standing around all frowning and grumpy.

01:32:28.000 And the next one was two beautiful people kissing.

01:32:30.000 And everyone's going, aww.

01:32:32.000 And they're both male and female.

01:32:33.000 There's just a point being made about people not being, like, happy with things they don't find attractive, I suppose.

01:32:40.000 Right.

01:32:40.000 But that could be heterosexual in this case as well.

01:32:43.000 Like, two ugly people kissing would, you know. 0.99

01:32:47.000 Or I suppose another example in a similar vein is this meme that goes around where it's like an attractive guy, like, saying, hey, you're looking good, Susan, and she's like, and then it's a fat guy saying, looking good, and she's like, help, help, I'm being oppressed, you know. 0.77

01:32:58.000 So I think there's a point you're making.

01:33:01.000 I'd push back a little bit.

01:33:03.000 I genuinely believe there's a lot of people who literally don't care and don't feel anything.

01:33:06.000 And there's probably a lot of people that actually think like, aw, that's so sweet if they see two men or two women.

01:33:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:11.000 I think you're right.

01:33:12.000 I think there's a lot of people, but I do agree with you, there's probably a lot of people too.

01:33:14.000 There's probably the distinction between, in some ways, the left and the right.

01:33:18.000 There are many people who are much more traditional and much more... I think... No, that's probably the right way.

01:33:23.000 Well, listen.

01:33:24.000 One thing the right has come to terms with And I include myself here, to the extent I can, given the community that I live in and my own religious beliefs, which is not limitless, not a limitless extent.

01:33:42.000 We simply can't have the attitude towards homosexuality that we had during the Reagan years.

01:33:49.000 That door is closed.

01:33:51.000 Richard Grenell has to be a cool guy.

01:33:54.000 We simply can't live in a world where we're going to say he can't be a leader or a potential president, where we might have done that when I was in high school.

01:34:06.000 I think a lot of the issues with a movie where you've got a gay couple, be it men or women, I think the issue is actually political, and people are more angry about the politics being forced into it as opposed to any real issue with homosexuality.

01:34:25.000 These are the comments you see online when it's like there's a movie and you have like the main characters, you know, in a lesbian relationship.

01:34:31.000 The comments aren't like, ah, you know, she's a lesbian. 1.00

01:34:34.000 No, it's like they're putting politics that doesn't need to be in the movie in the movie.

01:34:38.000 But I don't know.

01:34:38.000 I don't know.

01:34:39.000 You know, how about we take Superchance and see what the audience knows?

01:34:42.000 We don't know.

01:34:43.000 I can't read minds, so I don't know what people think or feel, you know what I mean?

01:34:46.000 And I think a lot of us project our worldview.

01:34:48.000 I mean, this is a fact, I'm pretty sure, that we project our emotions and feelings onto other people and assume they feel the same way.

01:34:54.000 Narrator, Tim is accusing Ron of projecting.

01:34:58.000 I'm accusing everybody of prejudice.

01:34:59.000 Everyone always prejudices.

01:35:00.000 Ron looks on in anguish.

01:35:01.000 But the reality is, so there's this NBC reporter who just like is one of the worst fake news reporters and I did a ground.news, it's a great website, blind spot search.

01:35:15.000 Oh yeah.

01:35:16.000 You ever see this?

01:35:16.000 No.

01:35:17.000 You can track the bias of the individual based on, not necessarily the bias, but like the news stories they interact with.

01:35:23.000 This is a guy who supposedly writes about the right, but 84% of his interactions are with left-wing news sources.

01:35:31.000 Not even centrists like, you know, the AP or Reuters or whatever, which are considered centrists, like literal left-wing slate stuff.

01:35:39.000 And this guy's writing articles claiming to be like an expert on the right.

01:35:42.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:35:43.000 That's just absurdity.

01:35:45.000 But there's been several studies done that show liberals get about 95% of their news

01:35:49.000 from left-wing news sources and about 5% from conservative.

01:35:53.000 Moderates get 2 thirds from liberal and 1 third from conservative, and conservatives

01:35:56.000 are inverted.

01:35:57.000 2 thirds from conservative sources, 1 third from liberal.

01:36:00.000 Showing moderates and conservatives are actually, to a certain degree, reading each other's

01:36:04.000 sources to better understand a fuller view of what's happening.

01:36:07.000 And liberals just believe whatever CNN tells them.

01:36:10.000 But let's see what the audience believes what is told of them.

01:36:15.000 So if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and share the show if you really like it.

01:36:22.000 We'll have a bonus segment coming up at 11, so make sure you go to TimCast.com, become a member.

01:36:26.000 Let's read some of these superchats.

01:36:29.000 Name, surname says.

01:36:30.000 Hey Tim, what are some good sources about Bitcoin I can show my normie friends and parents?

01:36:34.000 I like Max Keiser, but he's a bit too, he's a bit too nar-nars for my boomer parents. 1.00

01:36:40.000 Um, any, any, any, any?

01:36:43.000 Oh, Bitcoin knowledge?

01:36:45.000 What can you show someone that's like not gonna... Pop?

01:36:48.000 Like a pop piano?

01:36:50.000 What's nar-nars though? 0.83

01:36:52.000 Max is like a cartoon character.

01:36:54.000 He's amazing.

01:36:55.000 But he shows up here with sunglasses and money guns and he's firing them in the air.

01:36:59.000 Larger than life.

01:37:02.000 So this is, turns out that this is like, whatchamacallit, you just told me it wasn't like, okay, nevermind.

01:37:09.000 It's a good question.

01:37:10.000 Springer, who's like a good, authoritative, serious, believable source of Bitcoin knowledge these days?

01:37:16.000 I'm at a loss.

01:37:17.000 I'm not sure.

01:37:18.000 Are there any?

01:37:20.000 Are you big into crypto, Ron?

01:37:21.000 Not at all.

01:37:24.000 I'm a big fan.

01:37:24.000 I wish I could answer your question.

01:37:26.000 Anthony Pompliano.

01:37:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:27.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:37:28.000 Yeah, that's what Lydia was saying.

01:37:29.000 Check him out.

01:37:30.000 He's like a good, regular, just like, yeah, good podcast.

01:37:35.000 Got his own podcast, yeah.

01:37:37.000 All right, let's see.

01:37:39.000 Ulysses says, Tim, can you explain the Michael Malice troll on the Rubin Report for us less savvy viewers?

01:37:45.000 Can you at least make a subscriber segment on it?

01:37:50.000 I will say only a little bit.

01:37:53.000 Are you familiar with the superhero called The Question?

01:37:59.000 Is that a question?

01:38:01.000 Superhero's name is, quote, the question.

01:38:03.000 He is like a investigative journalist character.

01:38:07.000 He has no face.

01:38:08.000 Like, it's just nothing there.

01:38:10.000 And he's like a conspiracy theorist kind of guy.

01:38:13.000 So Michael Malice dressed up in a costume of this character and appeared on Dave Rubin's show.

01:38:19.000 And that's the troll.

01:38:21.000 It was good.

01:38:21.000 He was also wearing a Star of David.

01:38:25.000 To imply that he was Jewish.

01:38:27.000 Yeah.

01:38:28.000 A superhero called The Question.

01:38:29.000 That The Question was Jewish. 0.93

01:38:31.000 That's right.

01:38:31.000 Moving on.

01:38:33.000 Miles Kinslow says, Hey guys.

01:38:36.000 Tim, there is a woman named Gabrielle Clark who is currently fighting critical race theory with a landmark case.

01:38:40.000 Please hear her story.

01:38:42.000 Stop state-sponsored racism.

01:38:43.000 Stop CRT.

01:38:45.000 I really don't like people saying critical race theory.

01:38:48.000 I think it is a leftist, it is a trap.

01:38:50.000 The left is good with this stuff and they've won.

01:38:53.000 Chris Ruffo's fantastic.

01:38:55.000 He's brilliant.

01:38:56.000 He's targeting this stuff, and he's standing on their battlefield, and it's helping them tremendously, unfortunately.

01:39:00.000 Interesting.

01:39:01.000 Yeah, I've heard a few other people making that point about Chris.

01:39:07.000 So when you hear that schools are teaching critical race theory, what's being implied is they're applying critical race theory to their teachings.

01:39:18.000 It's very different.

01:39:19.000 This means that when they give you a math problem, it'll, it's like, this was an actual example I saw.

01:39:23.000 It's like, John is stopped by police three times in a year, but you know, Kwame is stopped 492 times.

01:39:29.000 What percentage change or blah, blah, blah.

01:39:32.000 And it's like, you know, how many, what's the difference?

01:39:34.000 And so that's applying critical race theory into math.

01:39:38.000 So what you hear is that they're teaching critical race theory.

01:39:40.000 Well, they're applying critical race theory's ideology in school programs, about diversity initiatives.

01:39:46.000 What happens is, with all due respect, because Chris is a smart guy and I respect the work he's doing, the left easily pivots their defense.

01:39:55.000 When the parents start saying they're teaching critical race theory, these journalists and these activists go, name one school that has ever quoted Derrick Bell to fifth graders.

01:40:07.000 And they're like, uh, well, they're not.

01:40:09.000 And you said they're teaching critical race theory.

01:40:11.000 Okay, Kimberly Crenshaw.

01:40:13.000 Are they reading Kendi?

01:40:14.000 Are they reading the more modern ones?

01:40:15.000 D'Angelo?

01:40:16.000 I didn't think so.

01:40:18.000 And you thought it was true.

01:40:19.000 And then what happens is you'll get some 20-year-old going, Mom, can you point to one example where they mention this, you know, that, or otherwise?

01:40:26.000 She's like, no, because they're lying to you, Mom! 0.99

01:40:28.000 It's Fox News!

01:40:29.000 It's lying to you!

01:40:30.000 Instead of just saying, they're teaching identitarianism.

01:40:35.000 Because then these people are going to be like, what's identitarianism?

01:40:37.000 And then when the activists try to pivot, well, I mean, it's like white supremacy.

01:40:43.000 It's like, oh, well, identitarianism is policy based on identity.

01:40:46.000 Isn't that what you're advocating for?

01:40:48.000 Yes.

01:40:48.000 Don't those white people in Europe call themselves identitarian?

01:40:51.000 Well, they are.

01:40:52.000 And you're teaching the same thing.

01:40:53.000 Yes.

01:40:54.000 And the Washington Post put out an article that advocated for the importance of white racial identity.

01:40:59.000 They did today.

01:41:00.000 So don't say critical race theory.

01:41:01.000 You can say identitarianism.

01:41:03.000 The problem is they're not even teaching identitarianism.

01:41:06.000 They're identitarianally teaching things.

01:41:10.000 Right, right, right.

01:41:11.000 It's applying critical race theory into other subjects.

01:41:15.000 Through the lens of?

01:41:16.000 They actually call it critical praxis.

01:41:19.000 So when the right comes out and says, critical race theory, the left easily goes, Name one critical race theorist we've ever brought up in the school.

01:41:28.000 And of course they don't teach the theory of anything in fifth grade.

01:41:31.000 And you can't.

01:41:32.000 So at these board meetings, they're like, Mr. Smith, it was?

01:41:36.000 You're complaining about CRT?

01:41:38.000 Can you name one critical race theory author that you've heard your son or daughter quote?

01:41:43.000 I didn't think so.

01:41:44.000 Next.

01:41:45.000 And it's over.

01:41:46.000 Because these parents don't know.

01:41:48.000 I went to, I was shopping in West Virginia.

01:41:51.000 And I heard parents complaining about critical race theory.

01:41:54.000 And I said, you need to stop saying that.

01:41:57.000 You know, like, I understand everything you're talking about.

01:41:59.000 They're not teaching critical race theory.

01:42:02.000 First and foremost, what they are teaching is rooted in critical theory in general, which includes critical gender theory.

01:42:07.000 But they're applying the ideology into the teachings.

01:42:10.000 If you go into these meetings and say this, they're going to, in two seconds, shut you down and say, you have no idea what you're talking about.

01:42:15.000 And they win.

01:42:16.000 So you can just bypass this whole argument by saying they are teaching wokeness.

01:42:20.000 Because wokeness is not defined by the left.

01:42:23.000 Critical race theory is.

01:42:25.000 The problem with the anti-establishment, be it liberal, moderate, conservative, those who challenge wokeness, or the Democrats for that matter, is that we all keep standing on their battlefield.

01:42:35.000 The Black Lives Matter rioters, eh, insurrectionists. 1.00

01:42:38.000 The George Floyds, eh, no-go zone.

01:42:40.000 Antifa autonomists, eh, no-go zone.

01:42:43.000 The police won't.

01:42:43.000 It's a no-go zone.

01:42:44.000 Criminal no-go zone.

01:42:45.000 You know who else does that?

01:42:46.000 Tim Pool.

01:42:48.000 I heard you used the term capitalism more than once tonight.

01:42:51.000 That is a term that was coined by Karl Marx.

01:42:55.000 Boom.

01:42:55.000 See, you got me.

01:42:56.000 Free enterprise!

01:42:58.000 Free enterprise!

01:43:00.000 But you're right.

01:43:02.000 See, I grew up in a world that had already succumbed to constantly ceding the battleground to the left.

01:43:08.000 So you just stop using their terms.

01:43:10.000 Critical race theory is their name.

01:43:13.000 That's not what I call it.

01:43:14.000 I call it wokeness.

01:43:15.000 And then people are like, well, you know, wokeness is kind of pejorative.

01:43:17.000 Good.

01:43:18.000 It's a bad thing.

01:43:19.000 It's authoritarian cult ideology.

01:43:21.000 I don't care if... Look, when you get into the core of critical race theory, they'll use some sound ideas to justify why it's a good theory.

01:43:30.000 Certain things like, did Christopher Columbus actually discover America?

01:43:34.000 And then some people counter, it was actually Leif Erikson.

01:43:37.000 And then they'll counter with, the Native Americans were already here. 0.99

01:43:40.000 And that's the morsel of truth that triggers this, oh, and then the left starts saying, you see, they were just teaching true history of racism, blah, blah, blah.

01:43:51.000 So no, I'm not, I have no concern for the most part of a school system in any grade teaching a theory.

01:43:57.000 If they want to teach a theory, they would say, there are several authors who believe X. This is what they've said.

01:44:01.000 That's fine.

01:44:02.000 The problem is when they create math problems where it's like, John has been stopped by police three times.

01:44:08.000 Listen, well before wokeness.

01:44:11.000 My wife was looking at my sons, all my sons are large adults now, but when they were much younger, she was looking at one of their homework assignments and it was, which of these scores Which of these scores in the basketball game between... I'm sure if Jane is listening this far into this that I got it wrong.

01:44:39.000 There were three basketball games between the two schools.

01:44:43.000 Which score shows that the game was the least fair?

01:44:50.000 And the answer was, of course, the game with the largest discrepancy between the scores.

01:44:57.000 Fairness has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

01:45:00.000 Maybe only three guys played for the team that scored 37 points more.

01:45:05.000 But this goes to a corruption and subversive phenomenon that's been going on within education, which has now been leeched onto by particular political movements, which has worked out just great for everyone concerned.

01:45:26.000 It's a religion.

01:45:28.000 CRT is one aspect of whatever this religion is, and it is a non-theistic religion.

01:45:35.000 It's a different moral framework from Judeo-Christian values, and I think that's one of the big fissures between the left and the right.

01:45:43.000 At least a search for truth.

01:45:44.000 framework is quote there is no truth but power and quote and then the other moral

01:45:49.000 framework which is based on traditionally Judeo-Christian values has

01:45:53.000 a lot more to do with a lot of at least a search for truth a search for the

01:45:58.000 truth that that is greater than power but I but I'll also what I want to

01:46:04.000 clarify this too I'm not saying that the people who oppose wokeness are all theistic and believe in God and all that stuff, but their values they were born with, they come from a country that was rooted in those values and this is what was born of it.

01:46:16.000 Their ideology is something entirely new or lacking any kind of moral framework.

01:46:21.000 All right, let's uh... Center Sun says on Friday Super Chat asked what's left of alt-left and Tim suggested an AI government.

01:46:29.000 It sounded eerily familiar to the resource-based economy dreamed up by Peter Joseph.

01:46:33.000 You should look into him as a potential guest.

01:46:36.000 I don't know, you know, so what we were saying was the far left, literal communists, think they're centrists.

01:46:44.000 If that were true, what would be to the left of them?

01:46:47.000 If the left on the economic scale is cooperative, which is communism, and the right is competitive, which is free enterprise, then what's left of communism?

01:46:56.000 A brick wall?

01:46:57.000 The left-right paradigm has always had problems. 1.00

01:47:07.000 There's a whole school of Twitter stupidity that goes like this, and you've seen it a gazillion times. 0.99

01:47:13.000 National socialism is really a form of socialism! 1.00

01:47:18.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:47:21.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:47:22.000 Read about national socialism.

01:47:25.000 It's true that the National Socialists, as a party, have origins in the worker-based socialism that was roiling Europe in the early years of the 20th century.

01:47:39.000 It's true that Goebbels himself was a Marxist, and to a large extent remained one.

01:47:47.000 To the end of his wretched, awful, evil life, he used paradigms.

01:47:53.000 I mean, he used the nomenclature of worker's struggle.

01:47:57.000 He never abandoned that.

01:48:00.000 Party work.

01:48:02.000 These kinds of things that you see from Soviet literature.

01:48:04.000 But National Socialism had nothing to do with the state owning the means of production.

01:48:11.000 It was not a centralized economy.

01:48:13.000 It was not even a command economy.

01:48:16.000 It has very little to do with socialism.

01:48:18.000 So the whole way of understanding right and left is very confusing.

01:48:26.000 When a communist says, no, we're, we're this, we represent the center that they themselves must be positing something to the left of them.

01:48:32.000 Right.

01:48:33.000 So what, what is it?

01:48:34.000 Well, they, they, they made this chart where it shows Bernie Sander, Bernie Sanders to the left of center.

01:48:39.000 And it says, and then the left of him, it says, watch this space.

01:48:42.000 And they're like, it says reality.

01:48:44.000 Like Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist and advocates for worker ownership of companies.

01:48:49.000 And he's center left.

01:48:50.000 All right, so Pol Pot is to the left of Bernie Sanders.

01:48:53.000 Yeah.

01:48:53.000 Okay.

01:48:54.000 Mao Zedong is to the left of Bernie Sanders.

01:48:56.000 And further north, too.

01:48:59.000 Would it be like monarch?

01:49:00.000 A monarchy would be?

01:49:01.000 No, that's authoritarianism.

01:49:03.000 But is it far left authoritarian?

01:49:05.000 It's not even the same scale.

01:49:06.000 On a political compass with a north, south, east, and west or whatever, left economic is cooperative and right economic is free enterprise.

01:49:13.000 Monarchy is merely who's the head of state.

01:49:15.000 Is it hereditary?

01:49:17.000 You know, in South Korea and North Korea, the last three dictators have been father, son, and grandson.

01:49:28.000 That is what we used to call a monarchy.

01:49:30.000 But because they call themselves a republic, oh, they must be a republic, right?

01:49:35.000 Just because if I call myself an antifa, I must be against fascism.

01:49:40.000 Anti-First Amendment.

01:49:43.000 Yeah, we should just call North Korea a monarchy. 0.91

01:49:49.000 A single authority, right?

01:49:50.000 No, a single hereditary authority.

01:49:52.000 That's what makes a monarchy.

01:49:53.000 There you go.

01:49:53.000 Hereditary monarchy.

01:49:54.000 You could have a non-hereditary monarchy.

01:49:56.000 I, in fact, intend to... That's the future for this country.

01:49:59.000 Or like, you vote.

01:50:00.000 They vote like a council of elders to vote for the next king after the king dies.

01:50:04.000 Well, that's what they used to do in the German Federation.

01:50:08.000 You know what would be really funny?

01:50:10.000 If North Korea decided to implement the Black Panther, Wakanda-style of what patriarchal hereditary rule by combat chosen by combat 0.64

01:50:21.000 so basically the the sons of the elders have to fight whoever wins becomes the the king you'd be

01:50:25.000 like by basketball though let's just frankie goes to hollywood

01:50:30.000 Two tribes. 0.79

01:50:32.000 I still haven't seen that movie.

01:50:33.000 Is it good?

01:50:34.000 Is it a movie?

01:50:34.000 I don't know.

01:50:35.000 Is it a movie?

01:50:36.000 Frankie goes to Hollywood.

01:50:36.000 Alright, alright, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:50:38.000 Alright, Group B says, Tim, MicroStrategy now owns one out of every 210 bitcoins that will ever be mined.

01:50:46.000 Who does?

01:50:47.000 MicroStrategy.

01:50:48.000 Okay.

01:50:49.000 Are you familiar with them?

01:50:50.000 I don't know a lot about them.

01:50:50.000 Is it like a business consulting thing or something?

01:50:52.000 They say, uh, and hash rate is down because China miners are leaving.

01:50:57.000 Bullish much?

01:50:58.000 Oh man, when the price of Bitcoin goes down, I just like, bye.

01:51:02.000 It has been.

01:51:03.000 I know, it's great.

01:51:04.000 It's good news. 0.90

01:51:05.000 It's because China plays these dirty games to manipulate poor people. 0.99

01:51:08.000 Uh, they'll be like, we're gonna ban Bitcoin.

01:51:11.000 And then the price drops, and then rich people buy up as much as they can from the panicked poor people.

01:51:16.000 You can actually see it in the, the transactions.

01:51:19.000 So when Elon Musk made his tweet that like, we're not gonna, you know, sell, this is according to some stuff that I read, I could be wrong, so fact check me.

01:51:27.000 But I read a bunch of reports showing that the bulk of the transactions were small amounts, like 20 to 50 bucks, maybe 100 bucks.

01:51:34.000 It was poor people who put in only as much as they could, and when the price started tanking, they panicked and sold.

01:51:40.000 And the rich people started moving millions of dollars into Bitcoin, but...

01:51:44.000 There's substantially fewer dollars from the wealthy going in, and more from the poor fleeing, so the price was going down.

01:51:51.000 The way I described it was, at the time when Bitcoin was at $38,000, I said, if someone offered you a million dollars in cash, in a case, and all you had to do was write them a check for 38 grand, would you do it?

01:52:03.000 Well, of course.

01:52:04.000 It makes no sense.

01:52:04.000 Like, why would I?

01:52:05.000 That's how I view Bitcoin.

01:52:07.000 When you have all of these massive companies hedging their bets and making massive investments into Bitcoin, and the people selling are the poor people, I feel bad for those poor people.

01:52:16.000 I want to warn them.

01:52:17.000 But I'm pretty confident the rich people think they're going to make bank off Bitcoin.

01:52:20.000 So that's what I'm doing.

01:52:20.000 I'm not telling anybody else what to do.

01:52:21.000 You know, I'm going to do my thing.

01:52:24.000 Not financial advice.

01:52:25.000 But in November, I bought Bitcoin, and I look at it as a savings account.

01:52:30.000 I'm like, okay, I got some money, I want to put it away.

01:52:33.000 I bought a bunch of Bitcoin in November, and boy, am I happy.

01:52:38.000 Been happy the whole time.

01:52:39.000 I'm happy too.

01:52:41.000 Me too.

01:52:42.000 But only because he's happy.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, it's different reasons.

01:52:44.000 I've been meditating a lot.

01:52:50.000 Someone's trying to, uh, Michael No- uh, Andy- wait, they're trying to Michael Knowles, Andy No.

01:52:56.000 Oh, snap! 1.00

01:52:57.000 So, here's what they said.

01:52:59.000 Die Steel Wobble says, got my second shot and now I'm unmasked!

01:53:03.000 Just like Andy No's book!

01:53:04.000 Unmasked!

01:53:05.000 Inside Antifa's radical plan to destroy democracy.

01:53:07.000 Purchase at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Goodreads, and, you know, you know the thing.

01:53:11.000 Places.

01:53:12.000 Definitely.

01:53:13.000 Pick up Michael Knoll's book, Andy Ngo's book.

01:53:15.000 Pick up Michael Malice's book.

01:53:18.000 I actually just did a chapter for Michael Malice's book, an audio chapter.

01:53:22.000 It was a reading an anarchist essay.

01:53:23.000 Me too.

01:53:24.000 Oh, excellent.

01:53:25.000 Great.

01:53:25.000 It's gonna be an excellent audiobook.

01:53:28.000 Michael's got like the best people reading chapters.

01:53:30.000 It was tiring.

01:53:31.000 It was tiring.

01:53:32.000 Wow.

01:53:33.000 I had to read one that was French.

01:53:36.000 But it was translated.

01:53:37.000 So there were like certain words and phrases in there and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great.

01:53:41.000 That'll be fun.

01:53:43.000 All right, Ted2 says, Tim, I get your point about military budget and industry, but a lot of the systems we use are expensive tech designed to increase our survivability in the battle space.

01:53:53.000 It's not all just bombs.

01:53:55.000 See MRAPs, ECM, etc.

01:53:58.000 Oh yeah, I agree.

01:53:59.000 Not only that, why do we invest so much in survivability?

01:54:05.000 Because politically, we cannot afford to trade bodies Yeah.

01:54:16.000 It's like, uh, the Zepp-Branigan strategy.

01:54:19.000 You send wave after wave of your own men until the killbots reach their kill limit and then you win. 0.99

01:54:23.000 Unfortunately, that was like the Soviet strategy, you know? 0.95

01:54:26.000 Wave after wave of low quality, but just lots of people.

01:54:30.000 And I worked out for them in a lot of places.

01:54:33.000 All right, Michael Nguyen says, Hey Tim, I know y'all helped out a cat a little while back.

01:54:37.000 Now a friend whose doggo got run over is in a very bad way.

01:54:42.000 Can you shout out this word doggo to get some help at GoFundMe?

01:54:46.000 To find the page, look for Noah Pelvis Surgery by Claudia Reyes.

01:54:51.000 Any little bit helps.

01:54:52.000 Reyes.

01:54:53.000 It's a Latino pronunciation.

01:54:55.000 So, uh... Claudio or Claudia?

01:54:57.000 Claudia.

01:54:58.000 We had someone... Latina. 0.65

01:55:00.000 Oh, sorry.

01:55:01.000 Latina.

01:55:01.000 Latinex.

01:55:02.000 My bad.

01:55:03.000 We had somebody shout out their GoFundMe, and so I shouted it out, and then... I can't believe that you do that.

01:55:08.000 That would strike me as really, really bad podcasting hygiene to... Really?

01:55:13.000 Well, now everyone keeps doing it.

01:55:14.000 That's exactly... No further questions.

01:55:16.000 I don't know.

01:55:16.000 That's the way they step down.

01:55:18.000 They're paying for it.

01:55:19.000 They are?

01:55:19.000 They are yeah, the super chats. They give me money and then I read

01:55:22.000 I'm like to all the advertisers out there You can join the lottery of getting the promo because a lot

01:55:28.000 of people are like hey shut up my podcast and they'll like super chat

01:55:30.000 A couple bucks with a podcast the the sponsors get that guaranteed spot in the beginning, right? Hey, I you know

01:55:37.000 I I won't Some of them are in poor taste.

01:55:39.000 They'll be like, can you shout out my GoFundMe because I'm buying a car?

01:55:41.000 And I'll be like, look, saving someone's dog, I want to help save people's pets.

01:55:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:46.000 That's miserable.

01:55:47.000 In other words, if you want a new car, call it a dog. 0.96

01:55:50.000 That's right.

01:55:52.000 But then you're committing fraud, and GoFundMe will ban you.

01:55:54.000 Oh, don't do that.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, you can't.

01:55:56.000 I was just thinking about how you helped that cat yesterday.

01:55:59.000 That crossed my mind.

01:56:00.000 Yeah, gotta make sure that cat is taken care of. 0.99

01:56:03.000 If our cat, Bucko, was injured and I couldn't afford to save him, I'd be thinking of anything I could do, I could sell.

01:56:10.000 You know?

01:56:10.000 Loyalty, right?

01:56:12.000 Nah, cats aren't particularly loyal.

01:56:14.000 Dogs.

01:56:15.000 Right.

01:56:15.000 I mean, you're loyal to the cat.

01:56:17.000 Right.

01:56:17.000 That is a one-way street.

01:56:20.000 You know, I was thinking about it.

01:56:21.000 I think cats are pretty fascistic, right?

01:56:23.000 Cats like you because you're powerful.

01:56:26.000 If you were small, they would torture you and they don't care what you're smart or... The will to power.

01:56:33.000 That's the feline nature.

01:56:35.000 That's right.

01:56:36.000 Dogs are loyal.

01:56:38.000 Loyal soldiers, you know?

01:56:39.000 They'll stand in the front line for you. 0.99

01:56:41.000 Little dummies. 0.83

01:56:41.000 You know the story of, uh, Hachiko, right? 0.83

01:56:44.000 Hachiko.

01:56:45.000 Dog in Japan, waited like ten years.

01:56:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:47.000 Outside of a train station, they built a statue for him.

01:56:50.000 That's right.

01:56:50.000 That's my, uh... The dog was like, I will not, unless, you know, I have given my, you know, unless they're given confirmation of the death, they will not abandon me.

01:56:58.000 My Patronus is a dog.

01:57:00.000 I took the Harry Potter test.

01:57:01.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 Apparently I would shoot one out of a wand, if anything.

01:57:04.000 That's kind of, uh, grounding.

01:57:07.000 WootDo4U says, you need to look into the Abolish the ATF bill better.

01:57:11.000 It just transfers the duty to the FBI.

01:57:13.000 And I did call that out on the segment that I did about Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill.

01:57:16.000 It does.

01:57:17.000 It reverses a lot of the rules going back to August 2020.

01:57:21.000 But for the most part, it just means the FBI will do what the ATF does, which... Can't possibly be better, because the FBI is, I think we all agree, the worst.

01:57:32.000 Yeah, the worst.

01:57:35.000 Christopher Irvine says Australia banned CRT from national curriculum yesterday.

01:57:39.000 God bless Senator Pauline Hanson. 1.00

01:57:41.000 Shout out to Pam. 1.00

01:57:43.000 To, uh, wow.

01:57:44.000 Did that say Pam or did that say Parn?

01:57:46.000 Parn?

01:57:47.000 Wow, I'm surprised that happened in Australia.

01:57:50.000 Wow.

01:57:51.000 I think it says Parn.

01:57:52.000 P-A-R-N. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Parn. 1.00

01:57:53.000 I don't know.

01:57:54.000 Parmesan, maybe?

01:57:55.000 She was trying to order something.

01:57:56.000 Sean Parnell?

01:57:57.000 All right.

01:57:57.000 Alabama Toolbox says, Tim, have you considered inviting Yeonmi Park onto your show?

01:58:02.000 She is a North Korean defector living in the U.S.

01:58:04.000 Recently, she has spoken out against world culture.

01:58:06.000 Have we considered that?

01:58:07.000 We have considered that.

01:58:08.000 Interesting.

01:58:09.000 Indeed.

01:58:09.000 All right.

01:58:10.000 I wasn't part of that conversation.

01:58:12.000 No, you weren't.

01:58:13.000 I'm sorry.

01:58:13.000 What are you saying?

01:58:13.000 I'll keep you in the loop better.

01:58:15.000 I'm just saying.

01:58:15.000 Have you ever been to North Korea?

01:58:17.000 I'd rather not say.

01:58:18.000 I still haven't.

01:58:19.000 It's a secret.

01:58:20.000 Proud Native says, Tim, I tried to fight and couldn't get the lawyers.

01:58:23.000 Lost everything.

01:58:24.000 Trying to build up now.

01:58:25.000 Not everyone is as lucky as you.

01:58:27.000 Granted, Colorado wouldn't have acted the same.

01:58:31.000 Is that a secret?

01:58:32.000 Are missiles going to be now launched based on those?

01:58:36.000 I mean, that seems like a series of non sequiturs to me.

01:58:38.000 Yeah, it was kind of like a code, wasn't it?

01:58:39.000 I've been, you know, speaking English now for well over the 40 years that I've been on this planet.

01:58:46.000 I don't- what the hell would that mean?

01:58:47.000 I don't think it's luck.

01:58:48.000 To, uh... Do things?

01:58:51.000 I don't know.

01:58:54.000 Oh, yeah, I understand the illusion that Tim fell that you've fallen into this place that you're at.

01:58:59.000 But I mean, it takes, you know, 10, 12 years of 10 hour days of work, you know.

01:59:03.000 Not only work, but imagination, creativity, and... Not an ounce of luck, unfortunately.

01:59:09.000 What is luck?

01:59:10.000 It's a big in China, like Chinese culture, luck is a real thing.

01:59:13.000 That just fortuitous things occur to you more often.

01:59:16.000 But they say luck favors the prepared.

01:59:18.000 Fortune favors the bold, luck favors the prepared.

01:59:20.000 Your ability to seize opportunities when they arrive or see them when also, uh, intelligence.

01:59:25.000 And as much as the left loves to insult me, my success is largely to the, my ability to predict

01:59:31.000 when big news events were going to happen based on prior news. So for instance, I got to Ferguson

01:59:37.000 within a couple of days, I was an occupy wall street within a couple of days. So when you have 0.58

01:59:42.000 10 news stories that are occurring around the country and you can only choose one, and only

01:59:46.000 one of them is going to be the big news story, if you can't accurately predict which one is going to

01:59:50.000 be big, you'll end up at the wrong one.

01:59:52.000 I think Cernovich is good at that too.

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:55.000 So, a few examples.

01:59:56.000 Occupy Wall Street.

01:59:57.000 There's a bunch of places I could have been.

01:59:59.000 I decided to go to New York, and I was there within, I think, the third day of Occupy Wall Street, and I was there for—I stayed in New York afterwards.

02:00:05.000 The Ferguson riots.

02:00:06.000 There were a bunch of things going on.

02:00:08.000 A better example would be the Gezi Park protests.

02:00:10.000 Vice and I had discussed going to the G8 protests in, like, Northern Ireland or something.

02:00:17.000 And at the very last minute I said, change my ticket to Istanbul.

02:00:19.000 We're going.

02:00:20.000 And they were like, are you sure?

02:00:21.000 I was like, yes, yes, yes.

02:00:22.000 And it ended up becoming one of their biggest pieces they ever did.

02:00:25.000 I was broadcasting to a ridiculous amount of people.

02:00:28.000 Livestreaming was on all their TVs.

02:00:29.000 They were super excited.

02:00:30.000 Now...

02:00:32.000 Any other person, would they have been able to predict the right place to be?

02:00:36.000 To have known?

02:00:36.000 To be fair, I was watching videos of things happening, being like, we gotta cover this story.

02:00:41.000 It wasn't like I knew that someone was gonna show up and a cop was gonna shoot somebody.

02:00:45.000 It was the news happened.

02:00:47.000 I see a bunch of news across the country, I said, this one is going to be the biggest story, and here's why.

02:00:51.000 Get me a plane ticket right now.

02:00:52.000 In fact, Vice would not buy me the ticket to Ferguson.

02:00:55.000 They told me to wait, and I said no, and I bought the ticket myself.

02:00:58.000 And if I had not gone, they would have not gotten that coverage, and it was, like, the biggest thing Vice had ever done when I went to Ferguson.

02:01:04.000 It was, like, 70,000 concurrent viewers, which is not the biggest I've done, but at the point, you know, several years ago, it was ridiculous for a livestream to have that level of viewership, particularly with mobile.

02:01:15.000 And they told me no when I said it at first.

02:01:17.000 Bought myself the ticket and flew there, and then they were like, Bravo, and then I quit because of it.

02:01:22.000 So that's it.

02:01:23.000 It's not luck.

02:01:24.000 There are a lot of people who used to cover and do field reporting for all these different places, and they'd be in the place that wasn't the biggest story.

02:01:33.000 So you can call it luck and call it whatever you want, but it was pretty fortuitous that I was in all of these huge, you know, But isn't it usually the producer, like in a typical news organization, the producer sends the field reporter.

02:01:46.000 You had an entrepreneurial role in choosing from where you would do your reporting.

02:01:54.000 Yeah.

02:01:54.000 It was usually, you know, typical reporters, you know, the producer says, here's your ticket to Ireland, Northern Ireland.

02:02:03.000 There are some places I've gone where it ended up being the wrong place, but I had a tendency to be in the right place at the right time.

02:02:09.000 Yeah, and also seize when you are in the right place at the right time to be able to turn it into something big.

02:02:14.000 Well, that was another thing, too.

02:02:17.000 During Occupy Wall Street, the initial livestreaming was being done via laptop with webcams they were holding up, and they would just point at random things.

02:02:24.000 When I started livestreaming, I would use my phone with Ustream, which was like the new mobile app, and I would narrate, explaining what was going on and what I was seeing while answering questions.

02:02:32.000 And no one had done that, for the most part.

02:02:34.000 So, people were given an option.

02:02:36.000 Watch a stream where they're just pointing a camera and moving back and forth, or here's a guy talking to me and answering my questions.

02:02:41.000 I mean, what were the... You weren't even on... Did you even have 3G?

02:02:47.000 Yeah, it was in the WiMAX era.

02:02:50.000 So, 3G and I think WiMAX was what I was using.

02:02:54.000 One megabit up and down.

02:02:56.000 Amazing, isn't it?

02:02:58.000 Really, really bad, uh, connection.

02:03:01.000 Dan Ian says, Did Tim just admit to accusing someone of a racially based crime using theatrics for profit? 0.98

02:03:06.000 WTF? 0.98

02:03:07.000 Uh, no. 0.99

02:03:08.000 I said that if you are in a racist meeting, to accuse the boss of being racist because they are being racist and violating the Civil Rights Act.

02:03:16.000 I'm literally saying, if you are in a workplace meeting and they break the law, to tell them, to warn them not to, and then to go to the proper administration when they do.

02:03:27.000 He did say that.

02:03:55.000 He did say that Do you get that?

02:03:58.000 I don't know.

02:03:59.000 That was awesome.

02:04:03.000 All right.

02:04:03.000 Eddie says, Hey Tim, currently working for CNN as a software engineer contractor, which is funny considering my views, but it pays the bills and the super chat.

02:04:12.000 Well, that's cool.

02:04:13.000 But can you look into 1Timothy43?

02:04:16.000 Seems it speaks on leftists who hold views like vegans and feminists.

02:04:20.000 Interesting.

02:04:22.000 Working for CNN, huh?

02:04:25.000 Now that's a topic I wish we would have had time to discuss before we started the super chatting, which is... You gotta work for CNN.

02:04:33.000 That's the job.

02:04:34.000 Boycotts.

02:04:35.000 Boycotts.

02:04:37.000 Don't buy from Amazon!

02:04:39.000 Really?

02:04:40.000 It's pouring out.

02:04:41.000 It's 30 degrees.

02:04:45.000 They can get me Michael Malice's book by tomorrow at 11 o'clock.

02:04:51.000 You want me to get in my car, drive over, we're in the middle of nowhere, right?

02:04:56.000 Yeah.

02:04:56.000 Drive out to, you know, Yechupetsville to see if maybe the Barnes & Noble is open.

02:05:02.000 Maybe they have the book.

02:05:05.000 Boycotts, man.

02:05:06.000 Some boycotts.

02:05:07.000 Tough question.

02:05:08.000 Some.

02:05:09.000 Some.

02:05:10.000 Disney Plus.

02:05:11.000 Nickelodeon.

02:05:12.000 Nickelodeon.

02:05:13.000 Yeah.

02:05:15.000 Coca-Cola.

02:05:16.000 Although I think someone bought a bunch of Coca-Cola.

02:05:18.000 It's fine.

02:05:19.000 I didn't buy it.

02:05:19.000 She bought it.

02:05:20.000 I can't taste it anymore.

02:05:22.000 And yet I still drink it.

02:05:23.000 That's an addict.

02:05:24.000 We get these cane sugar sodas that we get.

02:05:30.000 We get a bunch of them and we don't get a high fructose corn syrup out of there.

02:05:33.000 Yeah.

02:05:34.000 I'm a big fan of carrots.

02:05:35.000 You guys ever eat carrots?

02:05:37.000 I have eaten carrots before.

02:05:39.000 If they're sweet, you know you have the right amount of sugar in your body if the carrots are sweet.

02:05:43.000 Carrots got a lot of sugar in them.

02:05:45.000 Yeah, carrots be good. 0.96

02:05:46.000 You're dead to me. 0.92

02:05:46.000 No, no. 0.92

02:05:47.000 We're just getting to know each other, Ron.

02:05:49.000 It's just beginning.

02:05:50.000 It's just getting started.

02:05:54.000 The traction.

02:05:55.000 All right, we'll just read a couple more here.

02:05:57.000 That's like the other Ron in Parks and Recreation.

02:06:00.000 That's what I thought you were.

02:06:01.000 I was like, Ron Swanson.

02:06:03.000 All right.

02:06:03.000 Calum Askew says... That's my spirit animal.

02:06:06.000 You're the real Ron Swanson.

02:06:08.000 Calum Askew says, Tim, 2021 grad here.

02:06:11.000 We were taught direct CRT through reading a Ta-Nehisi Coates works.

02:06:16.000 Some guy who wrote Red Skull Peterson.

02:06:18.000 Same guy.

02:06:18.000 That's right.

02:06:19.000 He is, in fact, the guy who did that.

02:06:21.000 But wait a minute.

02:06:21.000 Was that in high school?

02:06:23.000 Or was that in college?

02:06:24.000 He just says 2021 grad.

02:06:25.000 Grad of what?

02:06:26.000 I don't know.

02:06:26.000 Of where?

02:06:27.000 All right, Harley Chuck says, Tim, why do you push homeownership?

02:06:31.000 Homo what? 0.77

02:06:32.000 Home ownership.

02:06:33.000 Oh, I thought we were going back to that.

02:06:34.000 OK, I push.

02:06:37.000 I won't advise people to buy homes.

02:06:39.000 I don't give financial advice or anything like that, but I would say.

02:06:42.000 Homeownership is a vehicle by which the middle class transfer wealth to their children, and make their lives better, and store their wealth beyond their life to their descendants. 0.53

02:06:51.000 And if you own a home, you're likely going to pay less per month than you would on rent.

02:06:56.000 Granted, you have taxes and insurance, but it's still less, because the people who own the home and rent it out have to cover those same things, so they'll charge a premium.

02:07:04.000 Now let's say you buy a house.

02:07:06.000 And you're like, I hate taking care of this house.

02:07:09.000 Maintenance?

02:07:10.000 Geez, I wish I had a landlord I could call and fix it for me.

02:07:13.000 I don't even want to live here anymore.

02:07:14.000 I moved to New York.

02:07:15.000 Now I regret it.

02:07:16.000 Now I own this property.

02:07:17.000 Oh, what am I going to do?

02:07:19.000 You're going to call a rental management company, who will take over, you'll sign a contract with them, and then you will never think about it again, and money will just appear in your bank account.

02:07:29.000 Passive income.

02:07:30.000 But for some reason all these news outlets are saying, millennials hate owning homes, don't buy homes millennial, you'll hate it!

02:07:36.000 Okay, whatever, I guess, more homes for me.

02:07:39.000 Millennials don't know how to use a screwdriver. 1.00

02:07:43.000 That could be part of the problem.

02:07:45.000 Yeah, well, uh, you're, you're a boomer, aren't you?

02:07:49.000 Technically.

02:07:50.000 Didn't the boomers create the millennials? 0.97

02:07:52.000 And then the silent created the Gen Xers? 0.95

02:07:55.000 So I'm, the thing is, I'm not really a boomer.

02:07:58.000 63.

02:07:58.000 Okay.

02:08:00.000 By the time I was of age, the real boomers had completely cleaned the place out. 1.00

02:08:07.000 They had cleaned out everything.

02:08:11.000 Generation X. We were left with Disco, okay?

02:08:16.000 I don't know.

02:08:16.000 Generation X?

02:08:18.000 I think you're a boomer, right?

02:08:20.000 I think they say now, up until 64, you're a boomer.

02:08:23.000 64 to 79 is the... So you're like a baby, baby boomer.

02:08:27.000 Well, so listen.

02:08:28.000 The baby boomers had the Millennials, and instilled their values in the Millennials, and I think they made a lot of mistakes. 0.82

02:08:35.000 As every generation tends to, I suppose.

02:08:37.000 Well, the greatest generation had the baby brewers.

02:08:39.000 That's right.

02:08:40.000 And they were not so great.

02:08:41.000 That's right.

02:08:42.000 They were great at storming the beach, but they turned out the most rotten generation in American history. 1.00

02:08:49.000 That's your hippies. 1.00

02:08:50.000 That's right.

02:08:51.000 And that's where you get your, you know... I love the idea that it was the hippies who are now the people extracting the wealth and holding the properties and wagging the finger at millennials.

02:09:02.000 The hippies were phonies from God.

02:09:05.000 Yeah, they did too many drugs.

02:09:07.000 That's what I heard about.

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02:10:40.000 Ron, do you want to shout out your show, your Twitter?

02:10:43.000 Twitter!

02:10:45.000 At Ron Coleman.

02:10:47.000 like it's sound spell like it sounds okay with an e after the l

02:10:52.000 the main thing is that also i have a new a new podcast i've had some i've had 0.89

02:10:59.000 some pretty cool guests he said no because he says he sucks at

02:11:03.000 being a podcast guest and i believe him now that i've heard him i thought i

02:11:07.000 said maybe i'll figure out when we have time i'll take it

02:11:12.000 Coleman Nation.

02:11:14.000 It's a play on words.

02:11:16.000 Love it.

02:11:16.000 Look for it.

02:11:17.000 It's on all the things.

02:11:18.000 And it's taken off like crazy.

02:11:20.000 Crazy.

02:11:21.000 If you like the Jewish lawyer thing, you know. 0.96

02:11:25.000 You know, we didn't talk too much about theology.

02:11:27.000 I don't know if you ever get into talking about that.

02:11:29.000 I do.

02:11:30.000 I'd love to break down the character of Moses someday.

02:11:32.000 Break down the character of Moses?

02:11:34.000 Yeah, I just love that guy.

02:11:36.000 Moses is quite a boss.

02:11:37.000 Is he a rad dude?

02:11:39.000 He was pretty powerful.

02:11:41.000 Rad dude.

02:11:41.000 Thought he was a slave and then freed all the slaves.

02:11:44.000 I saw that movie with Christian Bale.

02:11:47.000 Okay.

02:11:48.000 I'm told that is like a perfectly adapted version of Moses.

02:11:53.000 Unlikely.

02:11:53.000 Christian Bale.

02:11:55.000 Well hey, you guys can follow me at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland all across social media.

02:11:59.000 Keep it real.

02:12:00.000 And you guys, I think that you should follow me at sarahpatchlids on Twitter because this is something I've never done before.

02:12:06.000 I wanted to reference a tweet that I made yesterday.

02:12:09.000 This weekend I was thinking about rules that the right wing needs to follow.

02:12:12.000 I made a list of about 10 or 11 rules and one of them is we must choose not to bicker with each other over petty disagreements and we literally have- oh sorry, not that one.

02:12:20.000 It says, we have to sacrifice some of our individuality to accomplish goals that give people freedom.

02:12:25.000 It is not optional.

02:12:27.000 And I feel like this is really going to sit hard with the right wing, but I think it's absolutely necessary.

02:12:31.000 You guys should go read all my rules and tell me what you think of them at Sour Patchlets on Twitter.

02:12:36.000 I'm gonna do that as soon as we're done.

02:12:38.000 We are gonna see you all in the bonus segment over at TimCast.com, so stay tuned.

02:12:42.000 We'll see y'all there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 21, 2021

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