Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Democrats FAIL To Pass Abortion Expansion, Roe Is DONE w-Julio Rosas

00:00:04.000 The Democrats have tried to expand abortion in the United States, pretending as though it was the codification of Roe v. Wade.

00:00:11.000 It wasn't.

00:00:12.000 What they actually proposed was a serious expansion.

00:00:15.000 And it was blocked because Joe Manchin was like, nah, this is an expansion that would do away with like 500 different laws.

00:00:21.000 It's not codifying what already exists.

00:00:23.000 I mean, you take a look at what they're proposing and it would allow third trimester abortion under the pretext of health.

00:00:23.000 And he's right.

00:00:30.000 But there's a really interesting question about that.

00:00:32.000 If it says after viability, so you're basically saying the baby is healthy and capable of surviving on its own viable, but you can kill it if the mother is sick.

00:00:41.000 So this was a very rigid expansion, a very serious expansion.

00:00:45.000 It's not gonna make it through.

00:00:46.000 Now, you've also got some Republicans offering up some kind of pro-choice bill, I guess you can call it pro-abortion bill.

00:00:52.000 But the argument is that Susan Collins says they need their own version because this version they tried to pass didn't provide exemptions for Catholic or Christian hospitals to not perform the abortions.

00:01:03.000 So everything's just a mess.

00:01:04.000 Double standards from the left, and Joe Manchin quite literally was just like, you can't expand it.

00:01:10.000 If you want to codify it, you do, so it's not happening.

00:01:12.000 And so this, of course, is resulting in more outrage, more anger, more protest.

00:01:15.000 Protesters, of course, descended on Nancy Pelosi's home after she praised it, so I can only say, I guess you reap what you sow.

00:01:22.000 Granted, Nancy Pelosi is not a member of the court, so it's not illegal to protest there, probably just unethical. 0.98

00:01:27.000 And then we got the inflation.

00:01:28.000 It's really bad.

00:01:30.000 It was 8.3, and many of these news outlets were like, that shows signs of cooling off.

00:01:35.000 Except that's an opinion, which shouldn't be in a news piece.

00:01:38.000 And with diesel prices at record highs, and diesel shortages on the way now being reported, expect next month's reporting on inflation to be terrifying.

00:01:50.000 But I'm sure most of you are already feeling it because you can't get baby formula.

00:01:53.000 And, um, hold on.

00:01:55.000 If you're a conservative woman, you can't get baby formula. 0.99

00:01:58.000 But, but, if you're a liberal woman, you can't get cat food. 1.00

00:02:03.000 I'm being for real.

00:02:03.000 Cat food and baby formula.

00:02:05.000 So I'm like, it's hitting both sides.

00:02:08.000 Everybody has cats.

00:02:08.000 I have a cat.

00:02:09.000 Cats are great. 0.99

00:02:10.000 I'm just being a jerk. 0.99

00:02:11.000 I don't have a cat. 0.99

00:02:12.000 We're going to talk about all this.

00:02:13.000 I ain't no liberal woman.

00:02:14.000 I don't have a cat, but I have yours.

00:02:16.000 You can be.

00:02:17.000 Bucko needs food.

00:02:19.000 Joining us to discuss Ultra Maga and other things is Julio Rosas.

00:02:25.000 How you doing?

00:02:25.000 How's it going, man?

00:02:26.000 Who are you?

00:02:27.000 Just some guy.

00:02:28.000 How'd you get in here?

00:02:31.000 Oh, I know how to get into places.

00:02:33.000 It's kind of in my DNA.

00:02:37.000 Strong start, Julio.

00:02:38.000 Strong start?

00:02:38.000 You have a book?

00:02:39.000 Yes.

00:02:40.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:02:40.000 That's the whole reason why I'm here.

00:02:43.000 I wrote a book, Fiery but Mostly Peaceful, the 2020 Riots and Gaslighting of America.

00:02:47.000 It came out last week.

00:02:48.000 Two years in the making, officially, talking about all the riots that I covered in 2020 and even a little bit into 2021 and detailing my experiences, but also the experiences of people who were impacted by it, which surprisingly, you know, shockingly, was quite a lot of people.

00:03:06.000 Unfortunately.

00:03:06.000 And so, you know, I really wanted to, you know, I didn't, I didn't, when everything started back in May, I didn't go into thinking, oh, I'm going to write a book about, about this.

00:03:15.000 But as they continued and as, you know, they would get worse, and then you see the media coverage and how slanted that was, and someone who was there, I was in a very unique position to be, to say, well, no, this is how, It actually went, and then the other half of it was all my work is on Twitter, it's on Town Hall, where I work, but as we've seen with big tech and kind of the instability with social media as it is, I wanted to have a physical medium out so that it is oral history for this very tumultuous time.

00:03:48.000 Fiery, but mostly peaceful.

00:03:50.000 Yeah.

00:03:50.000 All right, man.

00:03:50.000 Cool.

00:03:50.000 Thanks for coming.

00:03:51.000 We also got Seamus.

00:03:52.000 I am here tonight.

00:03:53.000 I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:03:55.000 We're going to be releasing another cartoon tomorrow.

00:03:57.000 This one is going to be on Roe v. Wade.

00:03:59.000 I think y'all are going to enjoy it.

00:04:00.000 And I am excited to talk to you about this book because I think a lot of people have forgotten just how terrifying the summer of 2020 was.

00:04:07.000 It was almost as if, as soon as it happened, we forgot about it.

00:04:10.000 Yeah, I'm excited to talk about it too.

00:04:12.000 I had the feelings like, why did he not send in the National Guard on day two?

00:04:16.000 I don't know what your thoughts are.

00:04:17.000 Maybe we'll get into it on the show.

00:04:18.000 Ian Crossland, great to be here.

00:04:20.000 And I am also here.

00:04:21.000 I'm not a liberal woman, but I do have a cat.

00:04:23.000 He is a wonderful cat.

00:04:24.000 He's like a dog.

00:04:25.000 He'll come sit with you while you're sick.

00:04:26.000 If you want to see pictures of him, I have a bunch on my Instagram, which is Sour Patch Letterman.

00:04:30.000 Hold on, he'll sit with you when you're sick?

00:04:32.000 Yeah, he knows when you're sick.

00:04:33.000 After I get my MRIs, he'll come and chill with me.

00:04:35.000 He's waiting for me to die, I know, so he can eat my eyeballs.

00:04:37.000 I still love him.

00:04:39.000 Don't assume a positive motivation when you're dealing with a cat.

00:04:42.000 All right, everybody.

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00:07:26.000 Senate Republicans and Manchin block Women's Health Protection Act.

00:07:32.000 Quote, make no mistake, it is not Roe v. Wade codification.

00:07:35.000 It is an expansion.

00:07:36.000 It wipes 500 state laws off the books, said Senator Joe Manchin.

00:07:41.000 So let's just do this.

00:07:43.000 That's simple.

00:07:43.000 The Democrats were acting like this was going to be federal codification of Roe v. Wade.

00:07:47.000 That's not true.

00:07:48.000 And I will just go straight to it with Section 4 of the bill, which is 3755, which states, there can be no limitations or requirements on A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability, when in the good faith medical judgment of the treating healthcare provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient's life or health.

00:08:11.000 I just want to pause real quick and assess that provision right there and just say, It says after viability, meaning the baby can survive.

00:08:19.000 You're saying you can terminate the baby, even if it could survive, because the mother's health may be at risk.

00:08:27.000 I understand if their argument is, and the pregnancy, if it said, and the pregnancy, but preserve the life of the baby.

00:08:33.000 But it didn't say that.

00:08:34.000 Quite literally, they're like, we can kill a baby if the woman would be medically harmed by the pregnancy. 0.97

00:08:40.000 Why not just take the baby out and let it live? 0.84

00:08:43.000 Maybe they're assuming that if the removal of the baby would kill the woman, then... But either way, they're gonna have to take the body out, whether it's alive or not.

00:08:49.000 Exactly.

00:08:49.000 Also, this idea of an exemption for health, this is a term which is used very vaguely, so they're actually able to say something along the lines of, well, we have determined that this woman might be negatively affected with respect to something like depression if she has a child, therefore the abortion is a medical necessity.

00:09:10.000 I think it's just they need to meet their blood quotas to sacrifice to Moloch. 0.95

00:09:14.000 Yeah, that's all it is.

00:09:16.000 Blood quotas to Moloch.

00:09:18.000 But I think you have to do that in person, so I don't know if that would count.

00:09:23.000 Bloodlust is no joke.

00:09:25.000 That's from eating all the animal meat.

00:09:27.000 I don't think so.

00:09:28.000 There are a lot of people who eat animal meat that don't kill babies.

00:09:32.000 Crazy, real fast.

00:09:34.000 I'm just, that was, I just made a joke.

00:09:38.000 Opened up a can of worms right there.

00:09:39.000 Can you tell if this meant like if the woman would die if the baby was taken out of the body at eight months?

00:09:45.000 Or is this like if the woman would survive if the body was taken out? 0.85

00:09:48.000 After viability, it's the weirdest thing.

00:09:50.000 What is viability?

00:09:51.000 It means the baby can survive on its own.

00:09:52.000 Without like a breathing apparatus or like an incubator or something?

00:09:55.000 There are humans that are considered viable humans that need a breathing apparatus.

00:09:58.000 Viability just means the baby can survive without the mother at this point.

00:10:02.000 Maybe that does mean they got to put it in an ICU in a respirator or something. 0.96

00:10:06.000 I just, I really don't get the argument that it's like, this baby could survive, but we should kill it. 0.94

00:10:12.000 I don't- I genuinely don't get it. 0.98

00:10:14.000 I don't understand.

00:10:15.000 I mean, it's the purpose, though, when you think about it.

00:10:17.000 Because most people, they're not going out and having an abortion because they feel as if something is living off their body that they don't want to live off their body.

00:10:25.000 It's because they don't want to be a parent.

00:10:27.000 So, viability or non-viability isn't really a relevant argument to them.

00:10:30.000 I mean, but it also just speaks to why they haven't actually gone forward.

00:10:34.000 I mean, they could have codified it for the past 50 years, but they're not going to because it puts Democrats in this weird position on where exactly they draw this line.

00:10:42.000 And clearly they drew the line just like so far out of field that We get someone like Joe Manchin.

00:10:50.000 Manchin is like, he is the savior of the Democratic Party.

00:10:53.000 They, the reason they don't codify Roe v. Wade is that they need it as a wedge issue.

00:10:57.000 So all of a sudden Joe Manchin comes along and he's like, oh, I can't do it.

00:11:00.000 And all the Democrats are like, we're trying, but Joe Manchin won't let us.

00:11:05.000 Vote for us and we'll keep trying.

00:11:06.000 Exactly.

00:11:07.000 Exactly.

00:11:07.000 And the Republicans do the same thing they did with Obamacare.

00:11:09.000 They could have repealed it, but they were like, no, no, no, no, don't do it.

00:11:12.000 It riles people up.

00:11:12.000 Don't do it.

00:11:13.000 So do you think it's convenient for them that Joe Manchin is standing in the way or do you believe that he is actually actively trying to impede it for that reason?

00:11:20.000 I think it's a perfect storm.

00:11:23.000 Look, Joe Manchin's a West Virginia Democrat, which means he's gotta be moderate to right leaning on these issues.

00:11:28.000 Exactly.

00:11:30.000 But I gotta be honest, I don't see Joe Manchin getting reelected.

00:11:33.000 That just sounds insane to me at this point.

00:11:36.000 West Virginia went like 86% for Trump.

00:11:38.000 This dude, I just don't see it.

00:11:40.000 So he might just be like, eh, I'll play my role.

00:11:44.000 Give the Democrats a chance to keep complaining about these things and never do anything about it.

00:11:48.000 I pulled up an article from Washington Post that says fetal viability is generally considered to be around 23 or 24 weeks, which is like, what is that, five to six months.

00:11:56.000 And there's no universal consensus.

00:11:58.000 Some hospitals will resuscitate the baby, actively treat babies born in 22nd week.

00:12:02.000 So it's somewhere around there.

00:12:03.000 I don't know where they got this data, but this is Washington Post.

00:12:05.000 So I can understand if there's a baby that's considered viable at a certain age and the mom's like dying for some reason and they're like, we're going to, we're going to abort the pregnancy and then the baby dies.

00:12:15.000 I'm like, okay, well, you know, these things happen.

00:12:17.000 They were trying to save life.

00:12:18.000 I just don't understand the idea that they don't explain that.

00:12:21.000 They don't break it down.

00:12:22.000 There's no, there should be limitations there.

00:12:24.000 It should be that it should include in that provision and an attempt to save the life of the baby should be made.

00:12:29.000 There's a big difference between six month viability and eight month viability.

00:12:32.000 That you're like a human being ready to just bounce outside the skin at nine months.

00:12:36.000 So like, yeah, I don't know.

00:12:39.000 The word viability is very weird because if the power goes out, then what does that word even mean anymore?

00:12:44.000 So if a baby is born at eight months, but they need to be hooked up to a respirator or a breathing machine and the power goes out, could you make the same argument?

00:12:51.000 You'd have to say like, well, we don't have a breathing machine.

00:12:54.000 Can this thing survive on its own with modern technology, which in this theoretical situation would be no electricity.

00:12:58.000 What is it called?

00:13:00.000 What's the pump they call it?

00:13:01.000 You put it on your face and pump it?

00:13:02.000 It's like a respirator.

00:13:04.000 The pump face mask.

00:13:06.000 The pump face mask.

00:13:07.000 That's exactly it.

00:13:08.000 That's the medical term, actually.

00:13:10.000 But they could put that on the baby and boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. 0.93

00:13:12.000 Pump face mask.

00:13:13.000 Yeah.

00:13:14.000 So if oxygen goes out, then you need to figure something else out.

00:13:17.000 And one of the options would be this mask that they use when they're performing resuscitation.

00:13:22.000 When they're performing CPR, they use this.

00:13:24.000 It's a handheld mask to deliver breaths to someone.

00:13:28.000 You can help someone breathe if the power goes out.

00:13:30.000 You just need to do it.

00:13:31.000 Are Republicans going to try and do the inverse and ban abortion federally?

00:13:35.000 That's a good question.

00:13:36.000 I'm not sure.

00:13:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I hope so, but I think the Republican Party is really pretty weak.

00:13:40.000 But, I mean, the whole point of Roe v. Wade is that it gives it back to the state.

00:13:43.000 So, I mean... Ending Roe v. Wade.

00:13:45.000 Yeah, or returning it.

00:13:47.000 So, I mean, ultimately that would, I mean, because that's the whole reason why we're kind of in this mess in the first place in terms of this freakish outrage and them going to the Supreme Court Justice's house because there's this misconception that Roe v. Wade ends and then all of a sudden there's no more abortions just anywhere.

00:14:04.000 And so I think, at least on the state level, obviously a place like California is not going to do that because it's just so heavily down, but you would think that the states would, that are Republican controlled.

00:14:16.000 So then maybe then Republicans on the federal level wouldn't feel that pressure necessarily.

00:14:20.000 I think this attempt right here, I mean, Democrats just lost any, any, any, I guess the idea is we tried to do it, but because of Manchin, you better go vote, which I just don't see being reality.

00:14:31.000 They're making it about the filibuster.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Well, they couldn't get past the filibuster anyway.

00:14:35.000 So it's all just pointless.

00:14:37.000 It's pointless.

00:14:38.000 Well, that's because they always just fall back to the filibuster because they have no other thing to fall back on when their things fail.

00:14:47.000 So was there a filibuster involved in this process?

00:14:50.000 Nope.

00:14:50.000 They just didn't get the votes.

00:14:52.000 But even if they did, the filibuster wouldn't allow it.

00:14:53.000 They would need 60 votes.

00:14:54.000 It's not going to happen.

00:14:55.000 So there was this really funny thread from Politico where this Democrat was talking about the economy.

00:15:01.000 and giving a speech to other Democratic party members and politicians

00:15:05.000 and it was like the other Democrats were shocked and they were like,

00:15:07.000 but nothing, this is not coming up in the polls.

00:15:10.000 Like, who cares about inflation in the economy? 1.00

00:15:12.000 And they were like trying to explain to them it's the economy, stupid. 0.99

00:15:15.000 But you actually have Democrats who are sitting there right now being like, 1.00

00:15:18.000 if there's one thing every American truly cares about this election, it's abortion. 0.95

00:15:22.000 Meanwhile, there's a guy like, I have no guess.

00:15:24.000 And they're like, but abortion.

00:15:27.000 Another person goes, I'm hungry.

00:15:28.000 Yes, yes, but abortion. 1.00

00:15:31.000 And then someone says, there's no baby formula.

00:15:33.000 You could have aborted!

00:15:35.000 It's like it's not only abortion, right?

00:15:39.000 So I've said before, I mean, it's all murder.

00:15:42.000 But if you're going to look at the perspective of your average American person, there are even many people who would consider themselves to be in favor of it or, or not in favor of banning it, who would say nine months.

00:15:52.000 That's pretty insane, but that's the hill that they're choosing to die on right now.

00:15:56.000 We're more or less restrictive than Europe.

00:15:59.000 I mean, we had that whole funny clip of Bill Maher this week saying, I didn't know this, did you know this?

00:16:03.000 And his panel said, no, we didn't know this.

00:16:05.000 About Europe?

00:16:05.000 About how more restrictive they are over there.

00:16:07.000 Bill Maher has made his, it's so sad.

00:16:11.000 You know, the end of his career is basically like, are you guys hearing about this thing that happened years ago?

00:16:17.000 I just found out about this thing called the Google.

00:16:20.000 It's like Bill.

00:16:22.000 Bill, we had the conversation about Europe two months ago!

00:16:25.000 This dude doesn't have Google.

00:16:27.000 He's never heard of it.

00:16:28.000 He has rules.

00:16:29.000 New rule.

00:16:29.000 Yeah.

00:16:31.000 New rule, everyone! 0.86

00:16:33.000 You need to Google search something before you talk about it on your show.

00:16:37.000 Okay.

00:16:37.000 Let's give Bill credit.

00:16:39.000 He is just the human version of Microsoft Explorer.

00:16:42.000 It's fine.

00:16:43.000 It's not a big deal.

00:16:43.000 It's how he rolls.

00:16:44.000 You mentioned, Seamus, that abortion is murder.

00:16:47.000 Technically, it's not.

00:16:48.000 It's just a type of killing right now.

00:16:50.000 But just for specifics... If you want to be pedantic... You feel like it's murder, but it's legally not murder.

00:16:57.000 I mean, everyone that was killed in the Holocaust was murdered, even though it was legal. 0.99

00:17:02.000 You could argue that, too.

00:17:03.000 I mean, murder is a specific legal definition.

00:17:05.000 It's like when Stewie on Family Guy said, it's not that I want to kill Lois.

00:17:09.000 It's that I don't want her to be alive anymore.

00:17:11.000 I want her not to be alive.

00:17:14.000 So murder is, if I understand it, an unlawful killing.

00:17:16.000 And I'm saying the law of our nation might not protect those lives, but that's no law at all.

00:17:22.000 I see you understand, you think it is murder, but legally it's not.

00:17:25.000 It is.

00:17:25.000 According to our country, our country's laws are not recognizing it as such, but our laws are wrong.

00:17:29.000 That's the whole problem in the first place, is why it doesn't recognize it as such.

00:17:33.000 I think it's really stupid to define murder as unlawful, but I understand why they would, because the death penalty they argue is legal, but I still think you could call all of these things murder, like the intentional killing of another person. 0.65

00:17:46.000 War is where it's like, they're not murderers in war, they're killers, but they're not murderers. 0.98

00:17:52.000 I think they're all murderers.

00:17:54.000 Oh man, no way, no. 0.58

00:17:55.000 If you're protecting yourself and someone's attacking you and you kill them, you're not a murderer.

00:17:59.000 That's true, that's true.

00:18:00.000 But I think the point is, Ian, so if you, like, were in the USSR putting people up against the wall, technically that was legal, but I wouldn't say, oh, they're not a murderer because that was legal.

00:18:10.000 This is a good point.

00:18:10.000 That person's still a murderer.

00:18:11.000 I would say maybe it's the aggressive, intentional killing of another person.

00:18:17.000 Even then, war, like you go into a machine gun nest and wipe everybody out with a grenade intentionally.

00:18:22.000 Based.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, that's not murder.

00:18:25.000 You're killing for a living, you know?

00:18:26.000 That is an interesting point.

00:18:27.000 I wonder where we could find the actual line and what would be a murder.

00:18:32.000 Sure.

00:18:33.000 I mean, but I would still definitely say an innocent unborn child, you kill them, you fall into the category of someone who's committed murder.

00:18:37.000 You made an excellent point that a government could make it legal and then do it and say, hey, it's not murder because we made it legal.

00:18:43.000 But like, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's right or good.

00:18:45.000 Exactly.

00:18:46.000 Exactly.

00:18:47.000 Well, if you look at like Communist China, I dare say that the mountains of skulls there and in like Pol Pot's Cambodia would say a different story because those were technically just victims of the government.

00:18:56.000 It wasn't really a murder, right?

00:18:58.000 I mean, yeah, our unborn baby is a victim of the government.

00:19:00.000 It wasn't even a victim.

00:19:02.000 They wouldn't say they were victims.

00:19:03.000 It was a necessary cleansing of undesirables.

00:19:07.000 Everybody wants to justify why they get to kill somebody.

00:19:10.000 That's suspicious.

00:19:10.000 Exactly.

00:19:12.000 I understand war, though.

00:19:14.000 In times of war, consider everything out the window.

00:19:17.000 You want to talk about your rights?

00:19:18.000 Good luck when you're in a war. 0.98

00:19:20.000 You can talk all day and night about the rights you do have, and I think a person has inalienable rights, but someone with force can try to infringe upon those rights, and you'll have to fight for them.

00:19:30.000 That's why I thought it was funny when I was in the Marine Corps and going through the training, because we were taught the Geneva Conventions and the rights that we had under that, and I'm just thinking, who would actually recognize that?

00:19:40.000 Who's gonna recognize it?

00:19:41.000 No one's gonna recognize that.

00:19:43.000 I mean, if we're truly going up against an enemy that hates us...

00:19:47.000 I was talking about Vietnam the other day and I brought up the My Lai Massacre.

00:19:50.000 I don't know if you guys are aware.

00:19:51.000 It was like one of the greatest massacres perpetrated by American troops ever in the history of the United States. 0.64

00:19:56.000 It was like, I think, 500 Vietnamese villagers, women, children were burned alive and killed by like a hundred troops.

00:20:03.000 Like a bunch of guys.

00:20:04.000 It wasn't like 20.

00:20:04.000 It was a bunch of them.

00:20:06.000 I think it was helicopter gunships were mowing people down.

00:20:08.000 I think it was a company.

00:20:09.000 Only one guy got in trouble, William Laws Calley Jr.

00:20:12.000 He was a lieutenant and they charged him with like life in prison, multiple life in prison.

00:20:17.000 Three days later, Nixon commuted his sentence and sentenced him to house arrest.

00:20:22.000 And then he never really got, no one got in trouble for it.

00:20:24.000 Cause it's like when you're at war, the Geneva Convention is out.

00:20:27.000 I mean, for the most part out the window, you do what you got to do to survive.

00:20:29.000 These guys had snapped psychologically and took it out on the villagers, but like you put them in the jungle and you make them go crazy.

00:20:35.000 How can you really blame them for it?

00:20:37.000 That's a tough question.

00:20:37.000 I don't know.

00:20:38.000 Let me pull up this story we got from the Daily Mail.

00:20:41.000 You know what's crazy about this?

00:20:43.000 Abortion pills to the US claims it has received thousands of calls from women, especially

00:20:47.000 in southern states, wanting to stock up on the drug after SCOTUS is Roe v. Wade ruling

00:20:52.000 was leaked.

00:20:53.000 You know what's crazy about this?

00:20:55.000 In the bill the Democrats tried to pass, it says there can be no restrictions on abortion

00:21:00.000 via telemedicine.

00:21:01.000 I was like, how do you do abortion over the phone?

00:21:07.000 They prescribe you pills to terminate the pregnancy.

00:21:10.000 I wonder what's going to happen, seriously, with the illegal distribution of abortion pills.

00:21:16.000 I mean, people are going to do it.

00:21:18.000 Women are going to, they're doing it now already. 1.00

00:21:20.000 Is the government going to send out, you know, state troopers or federal police to go and arrest these women for ordering stuff? 1.00

00:21:26.000 Are abortion pills going to be treated like, like crack cocaine or something?

00:21:29.000 Yeah, it's a good question.

00:21:30.000 I'm not sure what the exact surrounding legislation is going to be.

00:21:33.000 I know, according to some figures I've seen, there was as much as a 60% decline in the rate of abortions in Texas.

00:21:40.000 So we know that restrictions will prevent them from occurring in some number of instances, and they are pretty effective, but of course there are going to be some people who find a way around the law.

00:21:50.000 Yeah, and of those, what did we say, 60% reduction?

00:21:53.000 Those are the numbers I saw.

00:21:53.000 That's what I saw.

00:21:54.000 A lot of those just might be unreported abortions happening now that aren't being reported.

00:21:58.000 Or they go to a neighboring state.

00:21:59.000 Numerically it can be tricky.

00:22:00.000 I definitely agree.

00:22:01.000 Let's have the feminist-triggering conversation. 1.00

00:22:05.000 Should men be allowed to abort their paternal responsibilities in a world in which there's unfettered abortion? 0.74

00:22:13.000 So let me let me phrase.

00:22:15.000 Obviously, I think the more conservative people would say, no, fathers should not abandon their kids under the pretext that women do. 0.97

00:22:21.000 Let's say the law is passed.

00:22:24.000 Abortion up to nine months is legal. 0.77

00:22:27.000 Would you also need to codify that men could be like, I hereby abort my responsibility? 0.79

00:22:35.000 I mean, Lydia as a woman.

00:22:37.000 I'm not entirely sure about that.

00:22:40.000 I was just thinking about that.

00:22:41.000 That is an interesting question.

00:22:43.000 I do think that if a mother has the right, so-called, from the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution to execute their poor unborn child, that a father should definitely have some say in whether he has to support a baby. 0.63

00:22:56.000 I don't know. The idea is if it's like my body my choice and it's like okay if you then choose to

00:23:03.000 have a baby and you could choose not to which means killing the baby then it is much less

00:23:08.000 morally ambiguous for a father to say I choose not to have a baby because he's not killing at that

00:23:12.000 point. Well I think what's absolutely true about this is when something like abortion is legalized

00:23:17.000 and normalized you do see a breakdown of the family.

00:23:20.000 So if a woman does not have the obligation to care for her own unborn child, what obligation does a man have to care for his child? 0.54

00:23:26.000 And I think that there's a sort of consistency there, but then I would also say that it's a consistency towards the direction of evil, and two wrongs don't make a right, ultimately.

00:23:35.000 If fathers were able to abandon their children after they impregnated a woman without there being any potential ramification or any way for her to sue for child support, we would probably see even more abortions.

00:23:45.000 How many progressive or liberal women do you think would advocate for men having the right to say, I have nothing to do with this baby? 1.00

00:23:53.000 That's a good question.

00:23:53.000 Not many.

00:23:55.000 They would want the child support.

00:23:56.000 They would say, you owe me money.

00:23:57.000 Well, and that's why it's so funny when liberals this past week have been saying, well then, if you're going to force them to have kids, then the father has to be just as involved.

00:24:06.000 And all the conservatives are saying, yes, absolutely.

00:24:08.000 I know!

00:24:08.000 Keep arguing!

00:24:10.000 Again, it just shows just how kind of we're... Obviously, it's not just limited to abortion.

00:24:15.000 It happens with every single topic, but people just talk past each other and they don't really know what the other side actually wants.

00:24:21.000 It is the rule It is a tendency of the right to not know the left's argument, but the rule is they typically, I should say they typically do, and it is the rule on the left they don't know the right's argument.

00:24:33.000 That's why the left, there's this meme going around where it's like, it's a four panel comic where someone says, my religion says I can't do this.

00:24:41.000 And the person says, good for you.

00:24:42.000 Then the person says, my religion says you can't do this, and they say F off. 0.63

00:24:45.000 And I'm like, you realize that means no gay marriage in churches, and no abortions at religious hospitals. 0.85

00:24:50.000 Because if you're saying okay to someone who says, my religion says I can't do this, no cakes for you, no gay message cakes, no trans cakes, no abortions at religious hospitals, and no marriages at churches that say no, they clearly don't agree with that.

00:25:06.000 They don't even know their own arguments.

00:25:08.000 No, they literally don't.

00:25:09.000 I love cake.

00:25:10.000 Well, also, the thing that I love about this is all of these hot takes about how men should have to take care of their children if they get a woman pregnant.

00:25:17.000 They'll tweet something like, well, if abortion isn't legal, then a man who gets a woman pregnant has a responsibility to stay with her and care for the child.

00:25:25.000 Like, it sounds like something me disguised as a liberal would say.

00:25:28.000 Like, hey guys, you know what I think?

00:25:29.000 I think these men should have an obligation to take care of the child that they make, and they're like, yeah!

00:25:34.000 That's just marriage with extra steps. 0.60

00:25:37.000 I think if the man gets her pregnant, then he should swear an oath till death do them part. 0.95

00:25:42.000 And you know what?

00:25:43.000 I think he should financially provide for her, and she should have the opportunity to stay home and raise that child. 0.84

00:25:48.000 I think she should be at home raising that child.

00:25:51.000 If conservatives want to ban abortion, then we have to have traditional marriage. 0.68

00:25:56.000 Oh no, anything but that!

00:25:58.000 Your terms are acceptable.

00:25:59.000 They're arguing on your behalf for the next step of your argument.

00:26:03.000 That's why it's like, guys, the pro-choice side, which is, I mean like the literal traditional liberal types who are sitting there confused like shrugging, they're left out of this.

00:26:13.000 And the overt pro-abortion side, which is like late term, terminate the baby, whatever, They don't even know what they're arguing against.

00:26:21.000 They're so far left, they can't see where the right is.

00:26:23.000 So they've looped back and said, traditional marriage must be enforced if you take away our rights. 0.99

00:26:28.000 So there's this idea called horseshoe theory.

00:26:31.000 I've coined a term that I call this merry-go-round theory.

00:26:33.000 I mean, eventually they just go so far to the left that they get to the right, but then they keep going back around to the left.

00:26:38.000 It's not like they stay at a reasonable position.

00:26:39.000 Someone in the chat actually said, Seamus, three rights make a left.

00:26:44.000 So we need to get to three.

00:26:47.000 It's kind of remarkable how the left has gone so far left they've become racial identitarians where they're actually just like now advocating for segregation and they've begun advocating for traditional marriage as a point against conservatives who want it's like They're going around again, merry-go-round theory.

00:27:04.000 The center stays there, just watching it happen.

00:27:09.000 The biggest part of the question is, do you want the babies to be able to be killed or not?

00:27:11.000 Maybe, for certain people.

00:27:12.000 But I think it's, do you want the government involved in these decisions?

00:27:17.000 I've always thought child support made sense.

00:27:19.000 If a guy goes out and gets five women pregnant, and then he just goes off to Santa Barbara to live on the beach and smoke pot, he has to follow through with what he's done.

00:27:29.000 If women have the right to terminate the pregnancy and the man says, I'm out, then they have a choice to say, okay, me too.

00:27:34.000 So this is the point.

00:27:36.000 Yeah.

00:27:36.000 Explain that a little bit.

00:27:37.000 I'm not, I don't quite understand.

00:27:38.000 If women have the absolute right to end a pregnancy because it's their body, then there is no legal argument for the man having any responsibility at all.

00:27:46.000 The woman gets pregnant. 0.99

00:27:47.000 She says, this is your fault.

00:27:48.000 You got me pregnant. 0.73

00:27:48.000 He says, you could always choose to get rid of it, have a nice day and leave. 0.73

00:27:52.000 We'd have a lot of unmarried pregnancies.

00:27:54.000 And I gotta be honest.

00:27:55.000 I think the left would actually be okay with that.

00:27:58.000 I think in the long run, yeah, they would adopt that position because ultimately they'll support anything that denigrates the family or familial responsibility.

00:28:04.000 But there was a meme that said the reason they won't accept that position is because it takes power away from the woman. 1.00

00:28:09.000 If the woman gets pregnant, she gets to choose whether or not the man is going to provide her or not. 0.95

00:28:16.000 Right.

00:28:17.000 So with marriage, you have two people who have to make an agreement. 0.82

00:28:20.000 With the current laws, the woman can choose to terminate the baby or keep it, and the man has no choice whatsoever. 0.50

00:28:27.000 So pro-choice people are not pro-choice.

00:28:30.000 They're pro-half.

00:28:33.000 They're pro-abortion. 0.73

00:28:34.000 If they were pro-choice, it would involve the man's right to choose whether or not he wants to be a part of her family.

00:28:39.000 Well, I just see it as, because when I was covering the pro-abortion protests outside Alito's home earlier this week, I was calling them that.

00:28:46.000 There were pro-abortion protesters at this house, and some people were just saying, oh, you're being so disingenuous by calling them pro-abortion, they're pro-choice, and so the choice to do what?

00:28:57.000 It's like when the people are like, the Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights.

00:29:00.000 States' rights to what?

00:29:02.000 And so, I mean, I just view it as, that's what they're advocating.

00:29:02.000 No, exactly.

00:29:05.000 I mean, that's the whole, they're not Can I make one point real quick?

00:29:13.000 This whole point you just made here where they would claim it was disingenuous for you to call them pro-abortion instead of pro-choice, that logic can be extended to literally any political position.

00:29:21.000 I'm not pro-gun, I'm just pro a person choosing to have a gun.

00:29:25.000 You have to call gun rights advocates pro-choice now.

00:29:27.000 You can't call us pro-gun, you have to call us pro-choice.

00:29:29.000 I'm pro-choice on guns.

00:29:31.000 People should have a right to choose.

00:29:32.000 I have no problem saying I'm pro-gun.

00:29:34.000 I am pro-choice.

00:29:35.000 Exactly.

00:29:35.000 Why won't they say pro-abortion?

00:29:36.000 Because they know it's evil.

00:29:38.000 We had in the TimCast newsroom some articles that were saying pro-life, pro-abortion, anti-abortion, pro-choice, anti-choice, whatever.

00:29:46.000 I don't know if we've ever said anti-choice.

00:29:48.000 But I was just like, I saw a few articles and I thought to myself, we shouldn't use pro-life or pro-choice.

00:29:53.000 Those are political terms.

00:29:56.000 We should just refer to the groups and what they advocate for in that time.

00:29:59.000 So when the left goes out and like, we're pro-choice!

00:30:02.000 And I'm like, no, you're pro-abortion.

00:30:04.000 Because I could name a million circumstances where you don't care about a person's right to choose anything.

00:30:09.000 Vaccine mandates is very obvious.

00:30:10.000 And they say, yeah, well, pro-lifers aren't pro-life because they're for the death penalty.

00:30:14.000 And I'm like, yeah, we're going to call them anti-abortion.

00:30:16.000 If you're at a protest and you're like, abortion should not be allowed, you are an anti-abortion protester.

00:30:21.000 Saying pro-life is a political term, and I'm not going to make an argument about what life means or what choice means.

00:30:26.000 If you go out and you say, we want abortion, you're pro-abortion. 0.99

00:30:28.000 If you say no abortion, you're anti-abortion.

00:30:30.000 We're done.

00:30:30.000 That's it.

00:30:31.000 Yeah, well, it's funny because they will usually try to use terms like anti-abortion as a smear, as if it's something to be ashamed of, that I'm against abortion.

00:30:39.000 They'll also use terms like pro-birth, like, you're not pro-life, you're just pro-birth. 0.97

00:30:42.000 I'm like, yes, you maniac! 0.66

00:30:44.000 What is wrong with being pro-birth? 0.98

00:30:47.000 Because they don't know what your argument is.

00:30:49.000 And so they say, like, I just, when I see all these memes on Facebook, I'm like, it's so frustrating because they've never talked to a conservative about this. 0.97

00:30:57.000 And then, so I can see this and I can, I'll say something like, They'll say something ridiculous like, it's about power and old white men. 0.52

00:31:04.000 And then I'll say something like, actually, the majority of pro-life people tend to be female. 1.00

00:31:09.000 And it's actually really simple because there's slightly more women in this country. 1.00

00:31:12.000 You can call it whatever you want.

00:31:13.000 And then they'll say, you're a right winger!

00:31:14.000 And I'm like, I'm just trying to tell you what they're saying because you're not talking to them.

00:31:20.000 But they don't.

00:31:20.000 When it comes to pro-choice, I think the reason that we're going to use, because some people will say, I don't want an abortion.

00:31:24.000 I'm not going to get one.

00:31:25.000 But I don't think the government has a right to stop other people from deciding that stuff.

00:31:30.000 What if you have a five-year-old and you lose your job and you can't afford it anymore?

00:31:36.000 Are you pro-choice?

00:31:37.000 Well, it depends on how you feel.

00:31:40.000 Well, should the government be involved in whether or not you strangle your kid to death because you're broke and can't afford the kid?

00:31:45.000 What if you have a nine-month-old baby?

00:31:46.000 Like, it's been out of the womb for gestation for nine months, nine months in fresh air, and then one day you're like, I have no money.

00:31:53.000 Should you have a right to choose?

00:31:55.000 Oh, I think that when you say pro-life, it's implicit that it's only when you're talking about the abortion conversation.

00:32:00.000 That's what that means.

00:32:00.000 That's why I said we won't use either in the context of these protests.

00:32:04.000 TimCast.com won't say a pro-life protester or a pro-choice.

00:32:07.000 We'll say anti-abortion or pro-abortion.

00:32:10.000 Someone who shows up and says, I'm pro-life.

00:32:12.000 It's like, that's a political term.

00:32:14.000 And there are many areas of life you are not saying all life is sacred.

00:32:17.000 I would say like, if I'm pro-choice, but I don't think the government should get involved, but I'd be happier if no one ever got an abortion.

00:32:24.000 I'm not pro-abortion.

00:32:25.000 I think abortion's horrific. 0.97

00:32:27.000 You're not pro-choice.

00:32:28.000 Well, I don't want the government to be like, you can't decide what to do with your body.

00:32:32.000 So, if you were someone who is in favor of the Second Amendment and strong gun rights, but you didn't personally own the gun, would we not still call you pro-gun?

00:32:41.000 We wouldn't just say, well, he's pro-choice, he's pro-allowing to choose, you know, allow someone to choose whether they're gonna own a gun.

00:32:47.000 Yeah, we don't do this with any other political conversation.

00:32:50.000 You're pro-choice?

00:32:51.000 It's a second-tier conversation.

00:32:53.000 It's a second-tier label already.

00:32:55.000 The abortion topic is already there.

00:32:56.000 You want to know why they call themselves pro-choice?

00:32:58.000 Because it sounds better than pro-abortion. 0.53

00:33:00.000 Yeah, because abortion is the actual procedure. 1.00

00:33:00.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:33:03.000 And also a lot of people don't want to get abortions that feel like the government shouldn't be involved in the decision.

00:33:07.000 Pro-life sounds better than anti-abortion.

00:33:10.000 Granted, pro-choice in my opinion sounds worse, like pro-abortion sounds worse than anti-abortion sounds, but these are political terms meant to garner support.

00:33:20.000 I look at it this way.

00:33:22.000 What does it mean to be pro-life in a general sense?

00:33:24.000 I do not believe it encompasses all life.

00:33:26.000 I certainly think there's an argument from conservatives about some people through due process forfeiting their right to life, the death penalty.

00:33:31.000 I can understand that.

00:33:33.000 But I don't think that is part of the conversation.

00:33:36.000 So I don't like the term pro-life.

00:33:38.000 It's a broad generalization.

00:33:39.000 Pro-life's an abuse.

00:33:40.000 Anti-abortion is fine. 0.98

00:33:41.000 You oppose abortion.

00:33:42.000 Seamus, are you anti-abortion?

00:33:43.000 Yeah, and I'm fine with anti-abortion as a label, but I still think pro-life is consistent, because my desire to be anti-abortion comes from an understanding that all human life is precious and sacred.

00:33:54.000 So I'm just very pro-human life.

00:33:56.000 So my issue is, the conversation around the death penalty is not a part of the pro- or anti-abortion argument.

00:34:03.000 So if there are protesters outside saying abortion should be banned, I'm not going to be like, interesting, the signs they're holding up send a strong message about the death penalty.

00:34:11.000 Because it doesn't.

00:34:12.000 You don't know their position on the death penalty based on them saying they're opposing abortion.

00:34:16.000 That's why I'm like, if there was a protest for or against the death penalty, we'd say pro and anti-death penalty.

00:34:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:22.000 So the pro-life only is in the reference of abortion, is what that means.

00:34:26.000 And pro-choice is only in the reference of abortion.

00:34:28.000 Nobody says... No leftist goes to an anti-death penalty protest holding up pro-life signs.

00:34:34.000 Right.

00:34:34.000 If you were to go talk about the death penalty... To be fair, if that language was not already being used in the abortion debate, they probably would.

00:34:43.000 Well, in the context that I've seen is that, because I've been covering the southern border crisis a lot, especially since the last time I was on here, No one who advocates for what the Biden administration is doing, which is essentially opening up the southern border to illegal immigration, they're not going to say they're pro-open borders.

00:34:59.000 They're going to say they're pro-immigrant.

00:35:00.000 They're pro-asylum seekers, even though, you know, when you break that down into, well, who's crossing and how are they crossing?

00:35:07.000 What are they doing after they illegally cross an international border?

00:35:10.000 It gets into these word games.

00:35:12.000 I will say, though, I am pro-breakfast burrito.

00:35:15.000 Yeah, me too.

00:35:16.000 I think we can all agree on that.

00:35:18.000 What percentage of pro-life individuals, conservatives, do you think would take issue with being told they were anti-abortion and having that label on them?

00:35:27.000 That's a good question.

00:35:28.000 I don't think anyone who's against abortion would be upset being called anti-abortion.

00:35:32.000 I could be wrong.

00:35:33.000 I don't know.

00:35:34.000 I can't speak for everyone.

00:35:35.000 I can tell you outright that when I say pro-abortion, they lose their minds.

00:35:39.000 They say, no we're not!

00:35:41.000 That's exactly what I've been experiencing these past few weeks on random Twitter users.

00:35:45.000 This is what David Pakman tweeted.

00:35:47.000 He says, where are the pro-abortion people?

00:35:49.000 I saw that!

00:35:49.000 And then Hassan made a joke and he was like, me, I'm trying to do this.

00:35:53.000 And then I screen grabbed it and then he accused me of not understanding it was a joke.

00:35:56.000 And I was like, I thought it was funny actually.

00:35:57.000 Because other people took it seriously.

00:35:59.000 It wasn't me who took it seriously.

00:36:00.000 I just screen grabbed it.

00:36:01.000 And then he accused me of taking it seriously.

00:36:03.000 But David's own followers took it seriously.

00:36:05.000 But the point is, When they say, who are these pro-abortion people?

00:36:09.000 They all go, we're not pro-abortion.

00:36:11.000 We're just saying it should be allowed.

00:36:13.000 And it's like, I'm not for drugs.

00:36:16.000 I'm just saying everyone should be allowed to have them.

00:36:17.000 But part of what was particularly hilarious about that thread with Pacman was it wasn't just Hassan responding to it.

00:36:27.000 There were many, many people in the replies getting a lot of likes saying things like, well, of course I'm pro-abortion, just like I'm pro any other medical procedure.

00:36:35.000 What's wrong with abortion? 0.98

00:36:36.000 Pro-abortion activists protest outside of Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco mansion.

00:36:40.000 Now it wasn't the biggest crowd ever.

00:36:42.000 kids anyway. Alright, settle down Bill Gates. Yeah, yeah.

00:36:44.000 While he got COVID. Let's talk about Nancy Pelosi. Nancy, you reap what you sow. Pro-abortion 1.00

00:36:51.000 activist protests outside of Speaker Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco mansion. Now it

00:36:55.000 wasn't the biggest crowd ever. It was like seven people I guess. So it's small, right?

00:37:01.000 But, understand, that's a very serious security issue.

00:37:06.000 It is?

00:37:06.000 It really, really is.

00:37:07.000 Especially, like, you know, I think it's wrong to do.

00:37:09.000 I don't think people should be going to the homes of anybody.

00:37:11.000 It's like, we gotta have areas that are sacred.

00:37:13.000 But you know what, Nancy?

00:37:15.000 She praised the protesters who were going out to the homes of the Supreme Court justices.

00:37:20.000 Chuck Schumer, same thing.

00:37:22.000 The president encouraged it.

00:37:24.000 I love the Hill-Ranfus piece that says Joe Biden encourages illegal protests in front of Justice's homes or whatever.

00:37:31.000 And I'm just like, yo, the rule of law has broken down.

00:37:34.000 But at the very least, you see something like this, you reap what you sow.

00:37:38.000 Nancy Pelosi probably doesn't care, though, because you, you, taxpayer, are paying her security bills. 1.00

00:37:44.000 I don't understand why these people are at her house right now.

00:37:46.000 people then show up and she'll be like see i don't care and then the money we 1.00

00:37:50.000 spend funds security keeper safe when people shop at our house

00:37:55.000 i don't understand why these people are uh... at her house right now to she say something that piss 1.00

00:37:59.000 them off oh i think it did there she's supporting henry quayle

00:38:03.000 and uh... the district that represents laredo texas on the right on the border

00:38:07.000 He's one of the last pro-life Dems.

00:38:11.000 I'm sorry, anti-abortion.

00:38:12.000 Pro-life Dem, whatever.

00:38:14.000 And so, there's been, on the progressive side of things, there's been a lot of people who have been upset at Pelosi saying, why are you supporting Henry Cuellar when you're trying to talk about Preventing Roe v. Wade from being overturned.

00:38:25.000 So I didn't see this until just now, but I'm going to assume that's part of the reason why.

00:38:29.000 I think it might actually just be that there is no logical argument.

00:38:33.000 There is just power.

00:38:34.000 If it's good for the revolution, it's good.

00:38:36.000 If it's bad for the revolution, it's bad.

00:38:37.000 And Nancy Pelosi is in a seat of power, and they would prefer one of their, you know, political tribesmen or whatever to be in that seat of power. 1.00

00:38:45.000 I mean, I was just covering a pro-abortion protest in Los Angeles, and this was very far left people, not just mainstream Democrats.

00:38:53.000 And they were pissed at Democrats.

00:38:55.000 They don't view them as technically on their side.

00:38:58.000 You know, the far left.

00:38:59.000 This was the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

00:39:01.000 That was like the group that organized it.

00:39:03.000 So, I mean, we see the, you know, the fringes, right?

00:39:06.000 The fringes don't view the mainstream political parties as being different.

00:39:10.000 They view them as one and the same.

00:39:12.000 And I'm gonna plug the book here really quick.

00:39:14.000 I talk about that in the book when it comes to Antifa and some of the Chaz occupiers during that time, but to bring it back, I think that's why, again, I don't know who was there and who organized that, but that could be just another thing too, where they just viewed Pelosi being part of the political establishment and the political establishment is all one and the same.

00:39:31.000 I think there's going to be a reckoning of all reckonings in this country.

00:39:35.000 We have this story from Post Millennial that goes along with this.

00:39:39.000 Glenn Youngkin slammed for lackluster response to protest outside SCOTUS Justice's home.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, Glenn Youngkin said, we're going to do a security perimeter and everyone's like, yo, 18 USC, blah, blah, blah, whatever, says you can't demonstrate to try and influence a court or a judge or whatever.

00:39:55.000 And they're doing it and they get away with it.

00:39:58.000 And the media comes out and acts like, EGAD!

00:40:00.000 The far right has called for the arrest of people who've broken the law!

00:40:05.000 They got Will Chamberlain, Jack Posobiec, me, and a few other people in this Daily Beast fake news article.

00:40:10.000 Where I'm just like... Oh, was it Patrizio?

00:40:11.000 Did he write that?

00:40:12.000 Maybe, I don't know.

00:40:13.000 There was a dude from Occupy who tweeted at me and he was like, 10 years ago, you would have defended this peaceful protest.

00:40:19.000 And I was like...

00:40:20.000 Ten years ago, I filmed people deflating police tires and said, if you do something in public, you get seen doing it.

00:40:25.000 Like, you take responsibility for your actions, and that non-violent civil disobedience results in you getting arrested.

00:40:31.000 I've always maintained that position.

00:40:33.000 It's like, it's so weird.

00:40:34.000 The far left has gone so far left.

00:40:36.000 They're like, Tim, you would have agreed with our more extreme position.

00:40:39.000 What happened?

00:40:39.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand.

00:40:41.000 My position hasn't changed.

00:40:42.000 You changed.

00:40:44.000 You used to think we agreed because we did, and then you left and said, why don't you agree with me anymore?

00:40:48.000 I think these people should be arrested.

00:40:50.000 I think the police should walk up, take their hands very slowly, put them in cuffs, bring them into the police van or whatever, take them to the station.

00:40:58.000 They get charged with their little misdemeanor, you know, protest charge.

00:41:02.000 The judge says, don't let me catch you there again.

00:41:04.000 They get a court supervision ruling, which means basically nothing.

00:41:07.000 It means don't go back.

00:41:09.000 And they made their point.

00:41:10.000 They got press, but they got arrested.

00:41:11.000 And then if they go back and get arrested again, they get a harder sentence?

00:41:14.000 Yeah, but it's usually like a weekend.

00:41:17.000 And so the idea is there has to be limitations.

00:41:21.000 We have to say, for these reasons, we have made something illegal.

00:41:25.000 But just because something is law doesn't mean it's right.

00:41:27.000 We talked about that with murder.

00:41:29.000 Many countries with despots were like, the law allows us to do it.

00:41:32.000 It's wrong.

00:41:33.000 There are many laws that I think are wrong.

00:41:35.000 So what do you do?

00:41:36.000 Non-violent civil disobedience. 0.99

00:41:38.000 You should get a slap on the wrist.

00:41:39.000 I mean, obviously, depending on the severity.

00:41:41.000 But I mean, like, if someone's going to picket, protest, parade, or otherwise, they shouldn't do it at someone's house.

00:41:46.000 I think that's unethical.

00:41:47.000 I think that's immoral.

00:41:49.000 But if they do, it is also, at a judge's house, illegal.

00:41:52.000 And we have to have the police say, this is codified law.

00:41:56.000 I don't think these people's lives should be over.

00:41:58.000 I don't think they should get a year in jail, that's the maximum.

00:42:00.000 I think the judge should be like, courts of provision, let me not see you here again.

00:42:04.000 Tim, enforcing the law is insurrection, I'm sorry.

00:42:06.000 Oh yeah.

00:42:06.000 It's bad for our democracy.

00:42:08.000 I found a good way to change the law.

00:42:11.000 It's great.

00:42:12.000 The United States is awesome because of 50 states, 50 different legal systems, kind of.

00:42:15.000 So you if it's legal in one state and illegal in the neighboring state, you do it in the legal state and you communicate with people where it's illegal in the illegal state and you change their minds while you're doing it where it's legal.

00:42:26.000 And then you have the opportunity to kind of change the law that way without actually having to go disobey directly.

00:42:30.000 This is why I think overturning Roe v. Wade is actually very important.

00:42:35.000 It allows for this decentralized testing pool of law.

00:42:40.000 The 50 states, it's quite brilliant.

00:42:42.000 Each state has jurisdiction over their state to set laws.

00:42:46.000 To a certain degree, I respect Supreme Court precedent on protecting constitutional rights.

00:42:51.000 I say to a certain degree because I think they get things wrong sometimes.

00:42:54.000 I think the NFA should never have been allowed.

00:42:56.000 The Supreme Court should have struck all that down.

00:42:57.000 But even Alito was like, there are limitations.

00:43:00.000 No, I'm sorry, not Alito, Scalia.

00:43:02.000 So, the idea is, Texas has laws.

00:43:06.000 New York has different laws.

00:43:08.000 Eventually, we can actually look at the data and be like, which place is better?

00:43:11.000 Granted, there's different terrain, there's different resources.

00:43:14.000 But allowing this, allowing people to decide for themselves in their own areas, I think actually would help preserve the union, would help make people live together better.

00:43:22.000 Because, you know, if you're like, I don't want to live in Texas, these laws, I'm going to move somewhere else.

00:43:26.000 Well, New York's awaiting.

00:43:28.000 They're going to welcome you with open arms.

00:43:29.000 Chicago says abortion oasis. 0.60

00:43:32.000 If you don't like what Texas or Oklahoma or whatever is doing, you can go right to Illinois.

00:43:36.000 And then you get carjacked.

00:43:38.000 Perhaps.

00:43:39.000 As you're driving in.

00:43:39.000 Hold on.

00:43:40.000 Everywhere outside of Chicago is red.

00:43:42.000 So you can go to a red area and you're probably going to be fine.

00:43:47.000 Less population deaths.

00:43:48.000 I do think there are important distinctions in what should be federally protected across the board.

00:43:56.000 Like, um, non-discrimination on the basis of race, sex, national origin, etc., the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:44:02.000 I think that makes sense.

00:44:04.000 But here's my favorite point in all of this.

00:44:07.000 At these protests, there is no equality under the law.

00:44:10.000 I see this as a clear violation of the 14th Amendment, in that these people are not being arrested.

00:44:16.000 Equality under the law means that if you break the law, you are held equal, same as everybody else, right?

00:44:22.000 These people are arguing that the 14th Amendment, equality under the law, guarantees a woman's right to abortion due to her right to privacy and medical choices.

00:44:30.000 At the same time, they're actively defending that they don't get criminally charged under existing statute, which is not equality under the law. 0.96

00:44:38.000 So don't come to me and say, the 14th Amendment guarantees- Shut up! 0.99

00:44:41.000 Until you say, arrest me because I did break the law, I don't believe you're serious and you're only trying to seize power and you're a liar! 1.00

00:44:47.000 You're liars! 0.99

00:44:49.000 Well, I mean, look, they're used to being above the law. 0.98

00:44:51.000 I know you know a lot about this, given the book that you have written.

00:44:54.000 I'm curious if you see any of this as being a fallout from 2020?

00:44:57.000 No, I mean, absolutely.

00:44:59.000 And not to get too headed, but I mean, the reason why there's so much concern about More riots or some level of unrest if Roe v. Wade is actually overturned is because when you look at how much people were able to get away with on such a large scale in 2020 in terms of looting, in terms of attacking police officers, in terms of just general lawlessness.

00:45:20.000 I mean they were able to get away with a lot and even the ones that were arrested.

00:45:23.000 I mean Portland's like the prime example but it happened in other places like New York City and in Chicago and so on and so forth.

00:45:30.000 And so that's why, you know, why wouldn't they run the same playbook?

00:45:33.000 Because not only are they going to get favorable media coverage, like they already have, and not only are they going to get the blessing of Democrats, like right now, there's a very good chance of not facing any consequences if they do anything very severe.

00:45:47.000 So, I mean, part of the reason for the book is to explain how we got here as a country, and we've lost the plot on just so many things, and we are in such a worse position to be able to confront not even just like issues of racism or abortion, but it's just because people saw violence worked to a degree, it's okay, why not just continue that when we don't get what we want?

00:46:12.000 Yeah.

00:46:13.000 So what was the most shocking part about the 2020 riots to you as someone who's done extensive research on this?

00:46:19.000 So it was the main, my main takeaway was just how fragile society is.

00:46:25.000 And it's, it's pretty fragile.

00:46:26.000 I mean, and when we look at, I mean, 2020 was also just such a unique year, right?

00:46:30.000 Cause we had the emergency COVID, we don't know too much about it and all this panic around it.

00:46:34.000 And then we also had a very heated presidential election and then there was a spark with George Floyd.

00:46:40.000 So, when you get these conditions just right, and that's why since the Derek Chauvin trial, there hasn't been really anything crazy happening, because there have been instances where I thought, oh, a police action, that's controversial, maybe I should go to that city, and then nothing happens.

00:46:55.000 But because there needs to be more build-up, kind of, you know, the country has gone through these cycles of build-up and then rage with, you know, the summer riots in 68, 67.

00:47:07.000 Then we look at Ferguson, and then now with Minneapolis in 2020 and 2021.

00:47:12.000 So even if, you know, there's no mass violence post-overturning Roe v. Wade, I would say that it's kind of more like a Jenga block that's put into the build-up to that, to where then maybe 2024 and that presidential election, and what will the country look like then?

00:47:27.000 Are we going to be in severe economic You know, depression and downturn.

00:47:31.000 And then, you know, when you put people in these extreme positions through no fault of their own, especially, they're going to do crazy things.

00:47:40.000 And, you know, doing these lockdowns, I think definitely contributed to 2020 because what was happening around, just the timing of everything.

00:47:50.000 It was late May, especially in a place like Minneapolis.

00:47:52.000 It was warming up.

00:47:53.000 People were tired of Staying home people lost their jobs because of the lockdowns and so they it was just It was just a perfect tinderbox essentially that all it needed was something like a George Floyd to happen.

00:48:03.000 So Then leading to that.

00:48:06.000 I mean with Minneapolis Being there on the ground shortly after after that it was it was crazy Just how the kind of the basic tenets of what we know to be a civilized society just wasn't there In terms of, you know, for example, I was so used to protests not affecting a couple blocks around where the event was happening, but I quickly realized that there was no stores open.

00:48:28.000 The stores that were nearby, they were all being looted, and so I ran out of water, because I was out there all day, and so I had to grab water from the target that was looted, because they were putting All the stuff that hadn't been looted into this giant pile so that people could just grab whatever they wanted.

00:48:45.000 So I just took what I needed and then moved on.

00:48:47.000 But it was just it was weird.

00:48:49.000 There's no public transportation.

00:48:50.000 There's no Uber.

00:48:51.000 Clearly there's no cops.

00:48:51.000 There's no Lyft.

00:48:52.000 I mean, it was just it was such a weird time.

00:48:54.000 And so that really was what was worrying going into 2021 thinking, well, is this kind of like the new normal now in terms of just how the immediate reaction to something that is viewed as unjustified is then just massive violence and lawlessness?

00:49:09.000 What frustrates me with most stuff is like, I just want to know what the rules are.

00:49:14.000 And if the rules were applied evenly, then I'd be like, play ball!

00:49:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:49:17.000 Like, let's have those arguments.

00:49:18.000 But instead, it's like, they, they... You ever play Monopoly with someone who just gets angrier and angrier?

00:49:24.000 Yeah!

00:49:24.000 Actually, a better example is, have you ever played Pokemon the card game?

00:49:27.000 I know many people in our audience probably did when they were kids.

00:49:31.000 And you probably had somebody where it's like, Yo, my Gyarados does 50 damage to your dude and I win and they start getting angry because they're losing so they just flip the table.

00:49:41.000 Yo, I once saw a kid pick up his Razor Scooter and smack the other kid during a competition or contest or whatever.

00:49:49.000 In the show?

00:49:50.000 So we were at a game shop and there was a Pokemon tournament or whatever.

00:49:50.000 Tournament.

00:49:53.000 This was back when I was like 14 and some kid picked up his scooter and just whacked the other kid with it.

00:49:59.000 That's what this feels like to me.

00:50:00.000 We're having a political contest, and have you ever seen an argument where someone's very calm, and they're like, I think X, Y, and Z, and the other person's getting angrier and angrier?

00:50:09.000 That's what it is, and there's no moderator.

00:50:12.000 Normally, the moderator should step in and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, tone it down, tone it down.

00:50:16.000 You're yelling, you know, let's keep it civil.

00:50:19.000 In this political debate that has reached the streets, one side is getting angrier and angrier, and they're smashing windows and starting fires and beating people because they're losing the argument.

00:50:29.000 The Moderators of the National Guard.

00:50:31.000 That's what I was asking you at the beginning of the show.

00:50:32.000 I'll ask you again.

00:50:33.000 Do you think that they should have sent in the National Guard day two of these Minnesota riots?

00:50:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:38.000 And part of the problem, because when you look at Los Angeles 92, right after Rodney King and the trial that resulted, it did take a long time for the National Guard and even active duty forces and the Marine Corps was also deployed during that time.

00:50:53.000 It took a while for them to get there, and that's part of the reason why the riots were so destructive as they were.

00:50:57.000 And it just seems like we're in this constant cycle where riot response is updated, and then because it's sometimes decades until the next one, those policies and the people in charge, they leave and they change and so things are outdated.

00:51:11.000 And probably another good example of that was Kenosha.

00:51:14.000 Because everyone was asking, why did it take so long for the National Guard to get there?

00:51:19.000 And the Sheriff, I remember, he said during a press conference, they didn't follow the proper procedure to officially request the National Guard.

00:51:29.000 He said that we got our wires crossed.

00:51:31.000 And the same thing happened in Minneapolis.

00:51:32.000 The mayor, Jacob Frye, they thought they put in the official request, the proper way to do it, and they didn't just because no one does this.

00:51:44.000 How many people got arrested for rioting in Kenosha?

00:51:50.000 I don't know that number.

00:51:51.000 Well, not enough, clearly.

00:51:52.000 What were there?

00:51:53.000 I mean, people got arrested?

00:51:55.000 A few did, I mean, after the fact, but in terms of... During the riots, I didn't see... Besides Kyle?

00:52:03.000 Well, that's the point.

00:52:05.000 The one arrest I do know about was Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:52:09.000 The guy who was trying to protect the neighborhood, who ran away, who rendered aid to even the protesters and rioters themselves, who fled for his life, defended himself, And then tried turning himself in, turned himself in, and went through the ringer on all this.

00:52:23.000 And I'm like, what about the dude who bashed the old man in the head with a rock?

00:52:25.000 Remember that?

00:52:26.000 Yeah.

00:52:27.000 I interviewed that man for the book.

00:52:28.000 Was he arrested?

00:52:29.000 The old man?

00:52:30.000 No, the old man.

00:52:31.000 I interviewed the old man.

00:52:32.000 Was the guy who bashed him?

00:52:33.000 We don't know.

00:52:34.000 I think it's fascinating.

00:52:35.000 You see, Ian, you said the National Guard's the moderator.

00:52:37.000 No, they're not the moderator.

00:52:38.000 The National Guard is the bad parent where one child is sitting there playing with his video game and the other kid comes over and punches him and takes it.

00:52:46.000 And the parents run over and go, whoa, whoa, stop fighting, stop fighting.

00:52:49.000 Or the bad teacher who sees a kid get tripped in the hall and then says, zero tolerance, you're both getting detention.

00:52:54.000 It's like, dude, one side is committing violent acts and destruction, and the other side is like, please stop this, and the National Guard comes in or the police come in and say, everybody calm down.

00:53:04.000 Everybody?

00:53:05.000 It's like...

00:53:06.000 The people who came down there with Kyle Rittenhouse were like, we're gonna protect these buildings and render aid to the rioters themselves, hope everyone's safe.

00:53:12.000 And then what happens?

00:53:13.000 Kyle is the one, after getting attacked, who ends up going to jail for two months and having his life destroyed.

00:53:18.000 Fortunately, at this point it was not.

00:53:21.000 He's recovered from it because justice was served.

00:53:23.000 But it's just, it is vomitous to hear these stories over and over again.

00:53:27.000 That's why, I tell you, when they announced, we were in Austin when they announced the Rittenhouse verdict, people were crying.

00:53:33.000 Good.

00:53:34.000 Women were crying.

00:53:36.000 I don't think I saw any dudes crying, but I did see women crying. 0.95

00:53:38.000 I made a cartoon about that.

00:53:39.000 About people crying over a written house.

00:53:41.000 Oh, that's right, you're the cartoon guy.

00:53:42.000 I think you guys will appreciate that one, but... With the whole situation... But tears of joy and relief.

00:53:47.000 Oh, okay, well... No, there were women... 1.00

00:53:49.000 Well it was a surprise to be honest.

00:53:50.000 That were like crying tears of joy and relief that this kid was not going to be sent away for life for protecting his home and where he lived.

00:54:00.000 And the left tried every lie.

00:54:01.000 Gun across state lines. 0.98

00:54:03.000 He didn't really live there.

00:54:04.000 His mom dropped him off.

00:54:05.000 That didn't happen.

00:54:06.000 All the lies.

00:54:06.000 All these lies.

00:54:07.000 All of the lies. 0.96

00:54:08.000 It was all nonsense.

00:54:10.000 And this is the guy.

00:54:11.000 And I watched a video.

00:54:13.000 Where an old man was bashed over the head with a rock.

00:54:16.000 Why wasn't that dude who bashed the old man run through the ringer?

00:54:19.000 Why wasn't he the one standing trial?

00:54:20.000 There is no moderator.

00:54:21.000 It wasn't even a story.

00:54:23.000 It was to us.

00:54:24.000 That was the issue with the official response in Kenosha was, because I mean, the governor, Tony Evers, he only called up 150 National Guardsmen.

00:54:34.000 That was the initial response and that was not nearly enough to actually secure A town, granted Kenosha is not that big compared to like Minneapolis, but when the city leaders, the state leaders, they did abdicate their responsibility because again, they didn't want to, in my opinion, they didn't want to seem like they were cracking down on racial justice protesters.

00:54:52.000 And then that leads a power vacuum to where then people like Kyle Rittenhouse, with good intentions, they're like, hey, we're not going to let people just Destroy this town anymore and we're gonna we're gonna prevent you and we're gonna stop you so you just continue moving on do what you do and then Yeah, something like the Kyle Rittenhouse situation is created and and yeah, it was I mean I was there for the second half and I was there covering the trial and It was it was just it was just it was just so Weird seeing how when being at the trial and seeing the facts laid out because you know I didn't know every single aspect of it I didn't you know solid like I said, we saw the second half of it and

00:55:29.000 But the only good thing about the trial is that it did lay everything out. 0.88

00:55:34.000 You know, unfortunately, he did suffer a lot to get to that point, but there's nobody who's going in there with an open mind can then come away and say, okay, yeah, he definitely is a white supremacist terrorist murderer that just wanted to mass shoot everybody. 0.96

00:55:46.000 I mean, if that was the case, he would have shot me.

00:55:48.000 The Daily Beast is now rated as fake news by NewsGuard because they have refused to correct all of the fake news they wrote about Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:55:57.000 That's the principle reason why they've been knocked down.

00:55:59.000 I love it, because whenever these Daily Beast writers who just do hit pieces on conservatives or libertarians, I just screen grab the NewsGuard thing and I'm like, let me send that to them, you know?

00:56:08.000 Like, here you go, you're fake news!

00:56:09.000 You are fake news.

00:56:10.000 And it's not even just them, but, I mean, with the whole, I mean, not to harp on Kenosha too much, but one of the egregious examples of the mainstream media just misportraying what was actually happening, I mean, CNN multiple times stated that Jacob Blake, as a fact, was unarmed.

00:56:31.000 I mean, they didn't say appeared to, didn't say looked like it, I mean, it was hard to tell with the initial video.

00:56:36.000 Didn't he rape some woman? 1.00

00:56:38.000 So the two kids that were in the back seat of the car, and I mean this is what led to the whole thing, was that the woman that he took the kids from, that was who he sexually assaulted. 0.78

00:56:45.000 And so that's why she had a protective order against him, and that's why the police were called.

00:56:50.000 And so when the police were on their way, they said, oh yeah, by the way, this is his history.

00:56:55.000 He's re-victimizing this woman and trying to take her kids.

00:56:57.000 And then he's armed with a knife and the taser apparently didn't work.

00:57:02.000 And so, I mean, the video alone, like when I first saw the video, I thought, okay, yeah, this looks bad, but this doesn't just happen.

00:57:09.000 A cop is not going to just plug away at this guy in the back.

00:57:13.000 But the whole reason why he did is because he was armed with a knife and he was about to go into this car with two kids in the back and take them away.

00:57:19.000 And so then the officer had to think, well, then if they're going to chase after them, it puts the two kids' lives at risk.

00:57:25.000 Who's this guy?

00:57:27.000 Do you guys know who this is?

00:57:28.000 Saints?

00:57:29.000 Quarterback.

00:57:29.000 I don't know football.

00:57:30.000 No, who is he?

00:57:31.000 I don't know.

00:57:32.000 People in the chat don't know.

00:57:33.000 He's a Saints player.

00:57:34.000 More like the Aints. 1.00

00:57:34.000 He's a guy. 1.00

00:57:35.000 He's holding a football and he's got Jacob Blake on his helmet.

00:57:40.000 He was convicted of sexually assaulting that woman, wasn't he?

00:57:43.000 Yeah, I think so, yeah.

00:57:44.000 And so she had a protective order against him?

00:57:45.000 A protective order, yes.

00:57:46.000 I don't know if he was convicted, but there was a protective order because Drew Brees?

00:57:50.000 made that yet to see if you actually had that that case against and so it and and

00:57:54.000 and and i think i mean just not even just nine is that i remember i think the w n b a

00:57:59.000 also did something great drew breeze is emerson

00:58:02.000 Drew Brees.

00:58:03.000 Yeah, Saints quarterback.

00:58:04.000 Imagine being, like, a celebrity and putting, like, Dahmer on your hat or helmet.

00:58:10.000 Kamala Harris visited him in the hospital.

00:58:13.000 And he said, oh, they're a good family.

00:58:16.000 Sorry, that's what she said to him, too, Tim.

00:58:18.000 The laugh.

00:58:18.000 What?

00:58:20.000 From Wikipedia, says Blake had a warrant for his arrest from July based on charges of third-degree felony sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct for domestic abuse.

00:58:29.000 He wasn't convicted?

00:58:30.000 He had a warrant for his arrest.

00:58:31.000 Okay, innocent until proven guilty.

00:58:33.000 But, just imagining a scenario where you're like, I can respect innocent until proven guilty, but the cops did not go there thinking, we're gonna attack this unarmed guy.

00:58:46.000 They were like, this is a guy who's wanted for the arrest on felony sexual assault charges, we need to bring him in.

00:58:52.000 And yes, you do need to bring that person in.

00:58:55.000 You can be innocent until proven guilty, and the state has a right to stop you and those charges to be levied against you.

00:59:00.000 He resisted, he grabbed a knife.

00:59:02.000 At the very least.

00:59:03.000 A guy holding a knife, who was wanted for sexual assault, and they're like, I'm gonna put his name on my helmet.

00:59:08.000 Well, and that was to go back to my initial point with the media initially saying, as a fact, not even being speculative, saying he was unarmed.

00:59:16.000 I mean, do you not think that didn't incite people to come from Madison, to come from Chicago?

00:59:22.000 There was guys that came from Minneapolis.

00:59:23.000 to take advantage of what was going on.

00:59:27.000 I mean, that's why it's so frustrating having been there.

00:59:31.000 I mean, that was what the title of my book, right?

00:59:33.000 I mean, because CNN, it's like, because I've met Omar Jimenez, who was a reporter.

00:59:38.000 That was MSNBC, right?

00:59:39.000 No, no, no, CNN, yeah.

00:59:41.000 I think Omar is a good reporter.

00:59:43.000 And so he was stating on the ground that this was a riot that was happening,

00:59:47.000 but it's like CNN has this automatic reflexive response to just be wrong on something.

00:59:51.000 And so the Chiron writer was like, yeah, fiery but mostly peaceful.

00:59:54.000 I mean, that doesn't even make sense.

00:59:55.000 We used to call this group the tourists, where when I would cover protests or unrest, these same people were at every protest, no matter what the cause was.

01:00:07.000 Some of them actually bragged about going to Turkey and to China to advance the protests in those countries.

01:00:12.000 And at that point, I'm just like, you work for the CIA or something?

01:00:15.000 Because like, the fact that you're in China organizing protesters and Turkey, I just have to wonder.

01:00:20.000 But no, I don't I don't genuinely think or accuse them of being intelligence or anything.

01:00:24.000 I think they're revolutionaries.

01:00:26.000 And I think they just want to destroy.

01:00:29.000 So you'd be in New York and someone would be like, Trayvon Martin.

01:00:33.000 And sure enough, they're this group is my favorite moment.

01:00:36.000 was the Trayvon Martin protest, when some of the tourists arrived, knew how to manipulate a protest march, got in front of it, and then tricked the march into going to Wall Street to protest at the bull, and the actual organizers were like throwing their arms in the air, like, why are we here?

01:00:51.000 Like, we're supposed to go to the police station, but instead, like, there's people jumping on the bull and stuff, and I'm like, yeah, the tourists took over.

01:00:57.000 They, these are, they're, like, they're extremist revolutionaries.

01:01:00.000 This is what you need to understand.

01:01:03.000 These people cannot engage in violence unless they have a shroud of regular people to protect them.

01:01:09.000 They would love to go out with 10 people and smash windows.

01:01:12.000 They would get caught.

01:01:13.000 What they need is a shock moment that will garner 200 people to come out.

01:01:18.000 They then tell everybody, show up in solidarity.

01:01:21.000 We're all black. 0.98

01:01:22.000 So they can, and then they can destroy things, smash things, burn things, et cetera. 0.97

01:01:25.000 And it's impossible for the state to figure out who did it.

01:01:28.000 Well, and one of the things that is also frustrating about having covered all these riots is that there are some people on the left who like to point to right-wing infiltrators.

01:01:38.000 I mean, in Minneapolis, there's Umbrella Man that they accuse of being an infiltrator.

01:01:43.000 They say that this Boogaloo boy was the one that set the 3rd Precinct on fire.

01:01:47.000 And so let's just say, for the sake of argument, to borrow from Ben Shapiro, Okay, for the sake of argument, King.

01:01:52.000 There we go.

01:01:53.000 Let's just say, yeah, it was all right-wing infiltrators that set the Third Precinct on fire.

01:01:57.000 And as someone who was there, I can tell you that none of the actual Black Lives Matter protesters slash rioters had any issue of who set the building on fire.

01:02:05.000 I mean, that was the whole reason why they were there, because they wanted to actually set it on fire with the officers still inside.

01:02:11.000 They were all celebrating.

01:02:12.000 They were all happy that this was on fire.

01:02:14.000 So even If that, you know, this was the work of extreme right-wing trying to make the movement look bad.

01:02:20.000 I can tell I can tell you being outside there that everyone was so happy and they wanted to continue to the other precinct which was the closest one was the fifth precinct and they thankfully weren't successful in destroying that but It's just, but they can't accept the rhetoric that they say.

01:02:36.000 I mean, all the time, you hear revolution, you hear, we gotta do direct action, but as soon as there is direct action on a pretty big scale, they want to back up and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, actually it wasn't us, it was people trying to make us look bad.

01:02:46.000 It's like, no, you're practicing what you're preaching.

01:02:49.000 And also just the fact that other people were charged with setting the Third Precinct on fire.

01:02:53.000 Remember that guy who stole the body armor and like the gun or something?

01:02:57.000 Like from the burning building he stole body armor?

01:02:59.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:03:01.000 Yeah, one guy, I do remember one guy who went into the, before it got set on fire, came out with like a riot helmet and he held it up in the air and everyone was cheering.

01:03:09.000 I think about like... Some people are dumb. 1.00

01:03:11.000 Sent it in the National Guard and like, I think that Trump was afraid, because he was the president, I think this was his Kenosha, was afraid that we'd have another May 4th Kent State shooting on our hand where the National Guard fired into a crowd of college students, killed four people. 0.99

01:03:25.000 But firstly, it wasn't like a peaceful protest like at Kent State.

01:03:28.000 That was relatively peaceful from what I know.

01:03:29.000 It was a violent riot.

01:03:31.000 Even at that stage, they were rioting.

01:03:33.000 I mean, they were rioting day one, I believe.

01:03:34.000 I think that probably a bunch of Republicans said, no, no, no, no, no, don't stop the rioting.

01:03:39.000 The rioting is good.

01:03:40.000 The rioting will get you to win elections.

01:03:42.000 That's, that's...

01:03:44.000 I mean, I don't know if that's treason.

01:03:45.000 Treason involves another country.

01:03:46.000 No, it's not treason.

01:03:47.000 That's like, sedition?

01:03:48.000 What would you call that?

01:03:48.000 I'm willing to bet there were... I don't know if they said this to Trump, but I'm willing to bet that there were Republican strategists who were like, the more riots there are, the better our chances come the end of the year.

01:03:57.000 Well, that's obviously not the case.

01:03:59.000 We've seen the proof is the past.

01:04:01.000 We see that that is not the case.

01:04:02.000 If you let riots burn, everything dissolves into ash.

01:04:05.000 No, no, no.

01:04:06.000 Black Lives Matter, after George Floyd, had its highest approval rating ever in aggregate at 51%.

01:04:13.000 And then it dropped to 9%.

01:04:14.000 I'm getting those numbers wrong.

01:04:17.000 It was like 26 net approval and dropped to like 9% net approval there.

01:04:21.000 Because he didn't stop the riots, he didn't get involved?

01:04:23.000 Because the riots, as soon as they started rioting, public support collapsed.

01:04:28.000 I think it went from like 51% to like 40%.

01:04:30.000 Well, part of the problem is that it just continued happening.

01:04:34.000 I mean, when everything first started, I initially thought that, okay, I'll cover Minneapolis and I'll go home and that'll be it.

01:04:39.000 But then things kept happening.

01:04:42.000 No matter how thin of an excuse that they had, they were going to riot because that was, and this is what I was saying before, the automatic response.

01:04:50.000 What really hit me was when I was covering a riot in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, which is probably about an hour and a half northwest of Kenosha, where it was a black officer who shot a black teenager who was armed with a gun.

01:05:02.000 He had shot the gun previously.

01:05:03.000 He was pointing the gun at the responding officers.

01:05:06.000 And, uh, but this was all pre-George Floyd and pre-COVID, and so that's why no one knew about this.

01:05:11.000 And so since the Milwaukee District Attorney was making a decision whether or not to criminally charge the officer in a post-George Floyd world, that's why there was riots in the first place.

01:05:20.000 But the thing is, is just that...

01:05:23.000 Being in that town, I mean, it really looked like my hometown of Wheaton.

01:05:26.000 I mean, it was a Black Lives Matter caravan from Madison that made their way to Wauwatosa, and as soon as they hit the city limits, they started destroying everything in sight, including homes. 1.00

01:05:35.000 Take a look at this Civics polling on Black Lives Matter from April 25th, 2017 to May 10th, 2022.

01:05:41.000 We can see net support, just after George Floyd was killed, hit 23%.

01:05:46.000 Then the rioting started.

01:05:50.000 Jacob Blake got shot and what happened?

01:05:52.000 Polling dropped even more and went down to 8-9%, continued to fall.

01:05:57.000 Derek Chauvin convicted.

01:05:59.000 Support for Black Lives Matter went down again.

01:06:02.000 Ahmaud Arbery verdict and they once again dropped down to negative 1% net support.

01:06:09.000 So you know what happens?

01:06:11.000 Every time now, We've had these three big moments.

01:06:13.000 Jacob Blake gets shot.

01:06:15.000 Approval drops.

01:06:16.000 Derek Chauvin's convicted.

01:06:17.000 Approval drops.

01:06:19.000 I think they're losing the narrative war.

01:06:21.000 I think we're seeing the media companies falter.

01:06:24.000 I think more people are starting to share shows like this, or other people are calling it out.

01:06:28.000 I mean, you look at someone like Jimmy Dore, and there really is an economically bipartisan anti-establishment emergence.

01:06:35.000 Because Jimmy's, you know, a lefty guy, but he calls out the machine.

01:06:38.000 He calls out the establishment, the authoritarianism.

01:06:41.000 I think regular people.

01:06:43.000 It's just fascinating.

01:06:44.000 After Chauvin was convicted, support tanked massively.

01:06:48.000 Over the course of a couple months, it went from 6% net support down to 3%, 2%.

01:06:51.000 Well, because if you remember, right before the verdict for Derek Chauvin, there was the riot in Brooklyn Center.

01:07:00.000 And that's the last riot I covered.

01:07:02.000 It was April of 2021.

01:07:04.000 And so again, I mean, yeah, I mean, now that was a bad case where an officer was trying to use a taser and accidentally shoots a guy.

01:07:11.000 But, again, what happened in that riot was people who had nothing to do with Ken Potter or Dante Wright had to suffer the negative consequences because people were crazy and going looting again.

01:07:22.000 I mean, it goes back to the two wrongs don't make a right, and that's why I'm just against rioting.

01:07:27.000 I want to pull up this story from Como News.

01:07:30.000 BLM co-founder admits she held parties at Mansion with donor funds.

01:07:36.000 Don't forget, folks.

01:07:38.000 When you give money to Black Lives Matter, you are supporting parties. 0.77

01:07:43.000 At a mansion, baby, yeah!

01:07:43.000 Parties!

01:07:45.000 Come on.

01:07:46.000 You take a look at this, this polling, and right now, as of today, Civic says 44% opposition, 42% support.

01:07:55.000 You can see that Black Lives Matter has gone underwater in the past month or so, and it's only getting worse.

01:08:03.000 Well, there you go.

01:08:04.000 When more stories like this come out, when you find out nobody knows who's in charge, nobody knows where the money was going, they bought a big mansion, had a bunch of parties with your money, you know, to everybody who watches this show, to everybody who watches shows like Steven Crowder's, or people who are calling out the lies from Black Lives Matter, Their money's safe.

01:08:24.000 They didn't make donations, but these regular people who don't pay attention, who are like, I'm gonna make a donation, and then did.

01:08:30.000 And all they did was fund a bunch of parties and a bunch of nonsense and a bunch of violence.

01:08:34.000 I hope they're waking up to it now.

01:08:36.000 Like the Minnesota Freedom Fund.

01:08:37.000 I mean, again, she wasn't the candidate then, but a senator, Kamala Harris, shared this bail fund because that was the current thing to do, and a lot of celebrities also advocated for it and donated to it. 0.91

01:08:51.000 And what's even worse, in my opinion, with that case is that it's not even necessarily that... I mean, the money was used to bail out actual rioters, but in the months since then, in the years since then, they've bailed out some pretty egregious people who should probably stay locked up, and yet they get released because they have all this influx of cash all of a sudden, thanks to people like Kamala Harris.

01:09:09.000 And then probably one case was that they bailed out this guy.

01:09:15.000 I forgot what the original charge was for, but he then went out and killed somebody in a road rage incident shortly thereafter.

01:09:23.000 And the Minnesota Freedom Fund, they put out a statement saying, they confirmed that yes, our money was used to bail him out, and then they deleted it.

01:09:30.000 Because I think they were getting too much backlash.

01:09:34.000 This is the problem with with supporting the current thing and the emotions running high is that you're right people don't think through what's actually happening because if you actually knew how like peaceful protesters work and when they're actually arrested by police a lot of times they just get written a ticket.

01:09:48.000 Right.

01:09:48.000 They don't need they don't need to get bailed out but because someone wanted to do something and it all looks good and we're gonna virtue signal and now people are dead.

01:09:57.000 I think it's these leftist organizations know what they're doing.

01:10:00.000 I remember during Occupy Wall Street, there was the National Lawyers Guild, and they were helping people that I'd witnessed be wrongfully arrested, and the cops lied.

01:10:09.000 And so I was like, well, that's cool.

01:10:11.000 They're like lawyers, and they observe to make sure, you know, no BS from the cops.

01:10:14.000 Okay.

01:10:15.000 Then I saw them one day at a protest where there was like a bunch of right-wing people wanted to have a protest, or they wanted to have a rally.

01:10:23.000 So the left showed up to oppose that rally with violence.

01:10:26.000 The National Lawyers Guild was on one side defending Antifa.

01:10:30.000 And I saw them and I was like, how come you guys are only observing one side?

01:10:33.000 And they were like, what?

01:10:34.000 And I'm like, shouldn't you be observing protests in general?

01:10:38.000 Why are you just with them?

01:10:39.000 There was a group of black clad people wearing masks and sunglasses with crowbars and two by fours and bats.

01:10:45.000 And they were like, we're here to protect these protesters.

01:10:48.000 And I'm like, The guys over there with shields are protesting.

01:10:51.000 I don't understand why you're not protecting them.

01:10:53.000 It's because these organizations don't exist to protect the right to protest.

01:10:57.000 They exist to serve the revolution.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:11:00.000 I mean, I see those guys out there all the time and they definitely are.

01:11:04.000 And look, I'm not for, you know, police cracking down on people unjustly.

01:11:07.000 It's just that in all the riots that I personally covered, it was always rioters making the first move and police responding in kind.

01:11:14.000 It's amazing watching the right try to protest and having no experience and no organizational power.

01:11:19.000 And they think they can go up to these cops and say things.

01:11:23.000 I just, it's funny watching these videos, and you'll see these conservatives being like, yo, yo, why are you arresting him?

01:11:28.000 He didn't do anything, I don't understand, like, what's going on?

01:11:30.000 And it's like, wow, that's exactly what the leftists say.

01:11:34.000 Like, these people thought they could show up, and that the cops were gonna treat them like, oh, these guys support us, so we're gonna arrest them.

01:11:41.000 We're bros.

01:11:42.000 Right, no.

01:11:43.000 Then you see those videos where the people are throwing the Blue Lives Matter flag in the dirt and stomping on it in front of the cops.

01:11:48.000 Because they finally realize, like, dude, those cops don't care about you, dude.

01:11:52.000 You go out and protest?

01:11:53.000 That's why the left has been organizing for decades, and they have infrastructure and money behind them.

01:11:58.000 So when they get arrested, they all get bailed out, even if they're the most crooked and evil people you've ever heard of.

01:12:03.000 And then, you know, Maga Mima shows up waving a little flag and now is in, you know, solitary.

01:12:07.000 Yeah, it's not hard.

01:12:08.000 If you think about the allegory, like the French Revolution, I'm reading a little bit about it.

01:12:11.000 Like if they were like, and there were there were like sympathizers to the revolutionaries in the courts, and that some of the French revolutionaries were arrested and then released, you'd be reading about him.

01:12:19.000 That is not even weird to me at all.

01:12:21.000 I can totally see that happening as French Revolution, they infiltrated the courts, they're working together.

01:12:25.000 So why is it so hard to believe that that's happening right now?

01:12:28.000 It's not.

01:12:29.000 It seems to be happening right now.

01:12:31.000 I completely agree with you.

01:12:32.000 I think people are in denial about the fact that the left has basically captured all of our most authoritative institutions.

01:12:37.000 Maybe not all, but some very, very... Some at the crux.

01:12:41.000 Enough of them to get away with rioting, basically.

01:12:43.000 Enough of them to literally burn down buildings and not face legal penalty.

01:12:47.000 They set fire to that church across from the White House.

01:12:49.000 A historical church.

01:12:51.000 And then the media and everyone just aligned against Trump over it.

01:12:55.000 This is how much institutional power the left has and has had.

01:12:58.000 They were able to intimidate a sitting president of the United States into going into the bunker of the White House, and it was not criticized by the media?

01:13:10.000 They were considered to be peaceful protesters?

01:13:12.000 They praised it.

01:13:13.000 They laughed at him.

01:13:14.000 Exactly.

01:13:15.000 And they laughed at Trump, right?

01:13:17.000 They laughed at this.

01:13:18.000 And then they, you know, they accused the right of being insurrectionist.

01:13:21.000 And in that riot, there were 60 Secret Service officers who were badly injured.

01:13:26.000 uh... all around our around sixty park police officers were also injured and

01:13:31.000 yet that's not viewed as an insurrection and that's why with

01:13:34.000 you know the whole january six is a discussion i mean for me i view it as a

01:13:37.000 riot and and and i was against that because right or not good

01:13:41.000 but it's just it's i i i don't care what anybody has to say about january six if

01:13:45.000 they then look at what happened at the white house and there is in because i mean that was also an attack

01:13:50.000 against one of the pages of government

01:13:52.000 I mean, it's just so, it's just, I know we get into the whole double standard and hypocrisy, but it's important to point that out because when we're talking about the, again, the history of our country, that you have to, we have to remember where people stood when things were on other sides of the debate.

01:14:09.000 Yeah, well, I remember all throughout the summer of 2020 when the left was rioting, I was seeing hot takes from lefties who were saying things along the lines of, oh, all the two-way conservatives who said they wanted to stand up to a tyrannical government are awfully silent right now, arguing, basically, if anyone remembers, that conservatives should be laying down their lives for a left-wing insurrection.

01:14:31.000 Then, all of a sudden, the left decides to start pretending that they're against insurrection, labeling January 6th an insurrection, which is a bizarre thing, considering basically no one had weapons.

01:14:44.000 We also know there was a—we're pretty sure, based on the evidence, there was a lot of What?

01:14:48.000 from feds there and the narrative was not what the media reported it as or has

01:14:53.000 been claiming it was but regardless now they are once again in favor of

01:14:58.000 insurrections saying things like Lori Lightfoot for example stating this is a

01:15:03.000 call to arms we have left-wing political leaders saying we gotta fight we got a

01:15:06.000 fight what we need revolution etc she called she called for arms and fight

01:15:12.000 She said, this is a call to arms, we need to fight, fight to victory.

01:15:16.000 That's calling for weaponry. 0.73

01:15:18.000 Yes, and Alex Jones got banned for basically the same thing.

01:15:21.000 And Chicago has plenty of them.

01:15:23.000 Is that the truth?

01:15:24.000 The government was set up so that we don't have to go to another revolution if we do it right.

01:15:29.000 Although Thomas Jefferson made it very plain that we may have to, and that you don't never do it, but we shouldn't have to.

01:15:35.000 We had a civil war, bro.

01:15:37.000 Also, well, I want to mention this.

01:15:38.000 I think what they were talking about was more a revolt than a revolution.

01:15:43.000 So a revolution is when you try to, like, completely overturn the social order to build something new, whereas a revolt is when you're trying to fight back against something being arguably imposed upon you.

01:15:56.000 So you think this is more of a revolt?

01:15:58.000 I think this is more of a revolution.

01:15:59.000 I just don't see what they want.

01:16:01.000 I would argue that it's a leftist revolution, right?

01:16:03.000 They want to create a new social order.

01:16:05.000 Like, they don't even think that we should recognize the differences between boys and girls.

01:16:08.000 That's how bizarre and strange the new order that they seek to establish would be.

01:16:12.000 A cultural revolution, like what Mao wanted to do.

01:16:15.000 A complete cultural and political revolution, yeah.

01:16:18.000 They just want to overturn everything.

01:16:20.000 Everything.

01:16:21.000 I mean, again, the far-left protesters in Los Angeles, they were calling for the Supreme Court to be abolished.

01:16:27.000 Which is also funny because, okay, if that happens, you do realize then abortion goes to the Senate.

01:16:31.000 That's the whole reason why we're in this position in the first place.

01:16:34.000 Remember when they were calling to abolish the Senate?

01:16:36.000 I mean, they're abolishing left and right.

01:16:39.000 I mean, I'm open to change and revolution.

01:16:41.000 A lot of anarchists and libertarians are probably like, yeah, abolish the Senate.

01:16:44.000 For a while, I thought we should get rid of the House of Representatives because they're getting bribed.

01:16:49.000 But I don't just want to get rid of it.

01:16:50.000 You've got to create something better if you're going to change it.

01:16:53.000 You've got to replace it.

01:16:54.000 The Founding Fathers didn't just fight and kill a bunch of people and then be like, what do we do now?

01:16:58.000 They had a plan.

01:16:59.000 They had a bunch of paperwork.

01:17:00.000 They'd been debating for years and years together.

01:17:02.000 And when it didn't work with the Articles of Confederation, they replaced it with something else, and what we have today.

01:17:07.000 I mean, it's really... I mean, especially with the Antifa people and those guys, yes, they are a threat, especially if they're motivated in specific areas like the Pacific Northwest, but...

01:17:21.000 They also just hype themselves up too much.

01:17:23.000 They spray paint ACAB on the side of a wall and they jerk themselves off on social media by saying, look how awesome this is.

01:17:29.000 This is a revolution.

01:17:30.000 You guys just spray painted a wall.

01:17:32.000 And then when it gets below 40 degrees, they stay home.

01:17:32.000 Big whoop.

01:17:35.000 It strikes me more and more that it's just a revolt, a headless revolt.

01:17:38.000 This is from October.

01:17:39.000 It's not even that long ago.

01:17:40.000 Abolish the Senate.

01:17:42.000 These people are just like, we've lost control of a body of power.

01:17:45.000 Abolish it!

01:17:46.000 Yeah.

01:17:48.000 And again, it's the temper tantrum that left us have.

01:17:51.000 If we don't get what we want, we want it to go away, or we'll influence it through violence.

01:17:56.000 I wish they thought of it more as a boat we're all on, that they don't like how fast it's going, so they want to burn the boat as we're all on it, and like, I'll sink it.

01:18:04.000 Like, no, no, no, we gotta fix the boat.

01:18:06.000 I wish that Republicans felt that way, too.

01:18:08.000 Yeah, it'd be nice.

01:18:09.000 So if you're on a boat, and there are people who are destroying it with pickaxes, you stop them from doing it.

01:18:15.000 I'm on a boat.

01:18:18.000 This hot take that we should abolish the Senate, this is so typical.

01:18:22.000 Often what happens is the right will either make a strawman argument to poke fun at the left to explain the most extreme possible position, and then the left will literally meet them there and end up unironically believing that thing.

01:18:35.000 So, I heard people saying after the 2016 election when the left was complaining about the Electoral College, well at that point, why not abolish the Senate as well?

01:18:44.000 Because if you think that everything should be left up to a purely popular vote, then the whole idea of representative government doesn't make sense.

01:18:51.000 That's what they want.

01:18:52.000 No, I know, that's what they want. 0.83

01:18:53.000 And at first, left-wingers were saying, they were denying that that's ridiculous, that's not what we want, and then of course, not that far down the line, oh, that is what they want. 0.76

01:19:01.000 Majoritarian rule is not fun. 0.92

01:19:03.000 No.

01:19:04.000 It's literally mob rule.

01:19:05.000 It's institutionalized mob rule.

01:19:06.000 I don't mind a more direct republic, but I do like the stop gaps that we have so that mob can't make a crazy decision tomorrow because a video went viral.

01:19:15.000 I think it's funny, Spock.

01:19:17.000 The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

01:19:20.000 And I'm like, that is horrifyingly despotic.

01:19:23.000 That's like not a good line.

01:19:24.000 Despotic?

01:19:25.000 Despotic!

01:19:25.000 I thought the same thing.

01:19:26.000 And millions of others.

01:19:28.000 It's this idea that, well, you know, these people need it more than you, so we're gonna take your water.

01:19:33.000 It's very Vulcan.

01:19:34.000 It's like very logical.

01:19:35.000 I need water to live.

01:19:37.000 The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few justifies a person who has water that he saved up for the winter.

01:19:43.000 It justifies, but these 10 people have no water, so they get yours because the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

01:19:48.000 And it's like, well, those many didn't do any work all summer and now are suffering because of it.

01:19:53.000 And I did the right thing.

01:19:54.000 So I suffer because of it.

01:19:55.000 Or if you're Taylor Lorenz, you drink three gallons of water a day.

01:19:58.000 What was up with that?

01:19:58.000 Holler back.

01:19:59.000 She said she keeps her room.

01:20:00.000 Is that real?

01:20:00.000 87 degrees in the desert.

01:20:03.000 That's not real.

01:20:04.000 Maybe it's LA, Los Angeles, probably got super hot in there, sweating all day.

01:20:08.000 Maybe she's a lizard person. 1.00

01:20:09.000 Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.

01:20:10.000 I think you can drink up to like eight.

01:20:11.000 Just bask in like the sun lamp and just like chill out.

01:20:14.000 I always watch lizards do that and I'm like that must be like the best feeling.

01:20:17.000 Yeah, if you're really still it doesn't feel, it's only when you start moving that it gets real.

01:20:20.000 Really hot, but if you're really still cats like in the Sun to you ever see it's funny like so we have a window in my office and Bocas will go in there and lay in the Sun and then as the Sun moves he like you'll look and then he'll be laying there and sleeping and I'll get up and like inch forward and we'll go back I went to pet him with wet hands and he like recoil and I thought I a desert cat wants to dry hands Sunlight!

01:20:45.000 There's a good argument to be made about that, right?

01:20:46.000 So when someone says something like, well, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, well, I would argue that the needs of the many include the need for strong social structures that don't allow you to just take things from people because they happen to be in the minority.

01:20:57.000 You outnumber them.

01:20:58.000 If you have a group of 11 people and one of them makes all the water, the other 10 are super lazy and they're beating their kids and they're terrible, the needs of the many, you gotta, you look at the big picture.

01:21:08.000 What is the needs of the species?

01:21:10.000 Do we really need those 10 violent, abusive people?

01:21:12.000 So what is the many at that point? 0.51

01:21:14.000 Like you might have to cut off the dead weight.

01:21:15.000 You know what I'd love to see is like a parody where Spock is like, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

01:21:21.000 And then Kirk is like, yes, but what if the few are protecting what they've built?

01:21:26.000 And then Spock just goes, Might makes right. 0.97

01:21:29.000 And Spock just goes, shut up. 1.00

01:21:31.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:21:32.000 The beautiful thing about Spock was that he was half human, half Vulcan, so it was an opportunity to have the logical rhetoric and then Captain Kirk would give him like the emotional human understanding, like basically the reasoning or the emotion. 0.99

01:21:45.000 The needs of the many also can include your mom.

01:21:47.000 Yeah, do that.

01:21:49.000 Yeah, when you say the needs of the many... Also, I want to mention that, like, this authoritarian idea, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

01:21:54.000 Like, who gets to determine what the needs of the many are?

01:21:56.000 Oh, the few?

01:21:57.000 A small handful of centralized people who you've decided to get to determine what the needs of the many are?

01:22:01.000 Okay.

01:22:01.000 You know, it's gonna be funny when Taylor Lorenz is, like, the editor-in-chief at the New York Times.

01:22:07.000 Oh, goodness.

01:22:07.000 We should have her on the show.

01:22:08.000 Dude, all of our addresses are gonna be... At that point, it's just, dude, the New York Times is gonna become a phone book.

01:22:13.000 Y'all are laughing, but it's gonna happen.

01:22:15.000 You think that's what she wants to do? 0.60

01:22:16.000 I don't know, but what's going to happen is these millennials will eventually take over these institutions.

01:22:20.000 They work there. 1.00

01:22:21.000 So 10 years ago, they were interns, and they were writing their stupid garbage pieces about Gamergate or whatever. 1.00

01:22:27.000 10 years later, they're now the star reporters. 0.99

01:22:29.000 In 10 years, they're going to be like, you know, I've been at the Times now for 25 years, and as the executive editor, the stories we're going to run, they're going to be running these institutions.

01:22:38.000 Think about the law clerk. 0.99

01:22:41.000 There's that viral meme where the law clerk was like, It is more dangerous that the courts took away women's rights than the leak happened and defied the sanctity of the court. 1.00

01:22:52.000 When they get into the judicial system and they are running these courts, they will have the same disdain for legal precedent. 0.83

01:23:01.000 And they're going to be like, I have the power and I can do what I want, so shut your mouth.

01:23:05.000 Well, I mean, because that's true, because I remember growing up in 2014, 2016, that whenever there was a freakout on a college campus from a social justice war or what have you, there was always that natural response to say, well, wait till they get to the real world.

01:23:22.000 It's going to be a harsh reality and grow up.

01:23:24.000 And that's not been the case.

01:23:26.000 No, it took over.

01:23:27.000 They took over because the older adults have to leave and they grow old and they retire.

01:23:31.000 And then who takes their place?

01:23:32.000 And we're seeing that now with law schools.

01:23:34.000 But, I will say, these people are very non-functioning.

01:23:38.000 So when the boomers age out and are no longer at the New York Times, the New York Times will go out of business. 1.00

01:23:43.000 Yeah, I've been waiting for it to happen.

01:23:44.000 I'm surprised it's still around.

01:23:45.000 Well, thankfully CNN Plus went out of business.

01:23:47.000 Well, for sure.

01:23:48.000 I mean, look at the ratings.

01:23:50.000 You know what the key demo ratings were for like Anderson Cooper on Friday?

01:23:52.000 It was like 90,000.

01:23:54.000 That's crazy.

01:23:55.000 We get like 500,000.

01:23:57.000 So they're archaic.

01:23:58.000 They're dying out.

01:23:59.000 The boomers ran the show. 1.00

01:24:01.000 They knew how the machine worked.

01:24:02.000 The millennials are inheriting the system but don't know how to make it work. 1.00

01:24:06.000 So what's going to happen?

01:24:07.000 Do you think these people are going to know how to run a business?

01:24:10.000 They're going to vote for government subsidization of news.

01:24:12.000 They're going to be like, the government should bail us out because the news is so important.

01:24:15.000 And then they're going to have allies in government who are going to be like, I agree.

01:24:19.000 And it's going to be up to all of us to be like, no, you're not getting our money to bail out these broken systems.

01:24:23.000 At some point, the media industry in the country got, it became no longer the fourth, what's it called?

01:24:28.000 The fourth state.

01:24:30.000 And it got like co-opted by, I don't know if it's the... It's the deep state.

01:24:34.000 Yeah.

01:24:34.000 There's this thing called the, I keep seeing this.

01:24:36.000 It's like the, uh, Oh, what's it called?

01:24:39.000 The Council on Foreign Relations and all their the web of how they have people that are part of that that are also like the heads of media organizations.

01:24:46.000 And there's like this awesome graphic.

01:24:48.000 I actually tweeted it out a couple months ago.

01:24:50.000 Alex Jones had it on the wall like a big poster when I went to his office.

01:24:55.000 And it just shows how all these people are connected through this Council on Foreign Relations.

01:24:59.000 Bilderberg Group's another one.

01:25:00.000 And then this, I don't remember the third, Trilateral Commission.

01:25:02.000 And the three of those businesses have so much influence on NBC, ABC, CBS, Disney.

01:25:09.000 And then they're putting out this coherent message that doesn't seem like it's about fact-checking anymore.

01:25:15.000 I think if you look at the media and how they've lost the plot, it shows you that millennials can't make the machines work. 0.97

01:25:21.000 So how is it that these people keep falling for the same fake news stories?

01:25:25.000 How is it that the press is less favorable than Congress or whatever?

01:25:30.000 It's because the millennials who are inheriting it Don't know what people want to listen to. 0.99

01:25:34.000 I'll mention that Politico story I was reading earlier where actually do I have I don't know if I have that tweet pulled up I don't where they were like a Democrat spoke to their colleagues about how inflation is the is the big issue for everyone and Democrats were shocked saying but I've not heard this at all and it's like if if if you did not know that people can't afford rent And you were shocked by that?

01:25:57.000 You do not live in reality.

01:25:59.000 That was Katie Porter. 0.79

01:26:00.000 Yes.

01:26:00.000 The Congresswoman.

01:26:01.000 She said that, oh, I didn't know that bacon cost this much now.

01:26:05.000 By the way, I love it when there's like the joke about asking a rich person how much a gallon of milk costs.

01:26:09.000 And they're like, I don't know, 20 bucks.

01:26:10.000 Cause like, I have no idea.

01:26:11.000 I don't, I have someone go to the store for me and then they just crumple the receipt up and throw in the garbage.

01:26:16.000 When they say our democracy, what they mean is you being ruled by people who have absolutely no understanding of what your actual concerns are.

01:26:26.000 These people who don't know that inflation's a problem right now are the ones in charge, and if you don't want that to be the case, you don't support our democracy.

01:26:33.000 When they say this is a danger to our democracy, they are not including you.

01:26:40.000 Imagine there are two countries in the United States There's the freedom faction and the authoritarian faction.

01:26:46.000 The authoritarians are talking to themselves.

01:26:49.000 They say they are threatening our democracy.

01:26:51.000 That doesn't include you.

01:26:53.000 That does not include you.

01:26:54.000 They say this is very dangerous to our democracy.

01:26:57.000 Yes, we are a danger to their democracy because we aren't included in it and we demand our rights.

01:27:03.000 We live in a constitutional republic.

01:27:05.000 They live in a multicultural democracy.

01:27:07.000 That's what's happening and both are trying to seize power.

01:27:09.000 Well, I should say one is trying to seize power from the other side because it's always been a constitutional republic here in the United States.

01:27:16.000 Yeah, no, it's an interesting question, right?

01:27:18.000 Because when you say one side's trying to seize power, it's not exactly clear which side that is.

01:27:22.000 We know the left has been pushing forward their revolution, but when you consider the fact that they have faced no legal consequences for the rioting in the street and other such illegal activities, you wonder if they're not the ones who are in control and it's the right which is attempting to seize power back.

01:27:38.000 Well, and that's why, again, that's why it's so scary of where, of where this country is going in terms of, I mean, with, again, Roe, this whole Roe vs. Wade issue, because, yeah, there, I mean, there was protests tonight.

01:27:48.000 I don't know how big they were, because, outside of the conservative Supreme Court justices' homes, again.

01:27:55.000 Are they going to be hunted down?

01:27:58.000 No.

01:27:59.000 Exactly, because the media has been excusing it, the White House was excusing it, and so if they think, okay, we can continue pushing these boundaries more and more, once it is actually overturned, it's not unreasonable to be concerned about, okay, well then they're going to take things to the next level.

01:28:14.000 And we're seeing it.

01:28:16.000 No one's been caught yet, but that's why.

01:28:19.000 pregnancy centers that have been have been targeted and it's just they they're it's being ratcheted up and they're justifying it because of what happened in the 80s and 90s or whatever and to me to me it's it's it to me it feels like we're we're in this we're in this car that's just careening towards this this treat this massive tree trunk and no one wants to hit the brakes have you guys ever read I am legend Yes.

01:28:40.000 Yeah, you read it.

01:28:41.000 Yeah, the actual short story.

01:28:43.000 Short story, it's a pretty... Well, no, it's part of a longer book, which is a collection of short stories.

01:28:48.000 So you know the premise.

01:28:49.000 Robert Neville.

01:28:50.000 Yes.

01:28:50.000 Yeah.

01:28:51.000 Which is?

01:28:52.000 Which is that in the book, they're actually explicitly labeled as vampires.

01:28:56.000 It's not as much of a zombie movie as the film, but basically there's nobody left on earth except for this one man.

01:29:01.000 And he pours vinegar on the steps of his house and it's surrounded by vampires every night who try to lure him out and get them to join them.

01:29:09.000 Get him to join them.

01:29:10.000 Don't spoil the ending.

01:29:12.000 How dare you.

01:29:12.000 William how dare you what's the point no it's a very good story the point is when

01:29:17.000 the vampire start emerging he goes around killing them because they're evil

01:29:21.000 vampires who are turning people and consuming blood he loses eventually he's 0.99

01:29:26.000 the last person he realizes to the vampires he is the legendary monster

01:29:33.000 He is the creature that lurks while they sleep, who kills them and jumps out of the light when they can't see him.

01:29:39.000 And he's the boogeyman to them. 0.82

01:29:41.000 Once they took over, he was the hideous monster creature. 0.74

01:29:44.000 He was the legend.

01:29:45.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:29:47.000 They execute him.

01:29:48.000 And that's his final ending monologue.

01:29:50.000 He's like, well, I am legend.

01:29:52.000 So my point is, eventually there will come a time when either the Constitutional Republic is consumed by the vampiric multicultural democracy, or the other way around. 0.96

01:30:03.000 If the Constitutional Republic loses, there will come a point where you are in your house surrounded by multicultural democracy, It will be unrecognizable. You have no constitutional 1.00

01:30:13.000 rights and you will be the last remaining constitutionalist holding on to your flimsy tattered up

01:30:18.000 piece of paper that you bought at auction for 10 bucks because nobody wanted the

01:30:21.000 constitution anymore. And then you'll be like, that's it. These ideas have died out. Unless of course you

01:30:27.000 preserve those ideas by having a family, having kids, building culture, challenging the

01:30:32.000 establishment, speaking out and saying no to the vampires. Yeah, that's what you have to do. You

01:30:39.000 think you can work with the vampires? No.

01:30:40.000 No.

01:30:41.000 No.

01:30:41.000 What about trick them into becoming your slaves?

01:30:43.000 They're vampires. 0.98

01:30:44.000 You can cure them. 0.99

01:30:45.000 Like in the movie, that's what he was trying to do, which was really dumb. 1.00

01:30:47.000 The movie sucked. 0.99

01:30:48.000 No, I like the movie. 0.98

01:30:49.000 The movie just had no, like, the point of the story is the message about what happens when you're the last human.

01:30:55.000 You are the monster to them.

01:30:56.000 Well, sure, but the movie was just like, I got a dog and there's zombies, I guess. 0.89

01:31:01.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

01:31:02.000 Ah, whatever.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, it wasn't as good.

01:31:04.000 There were shootings, and there was a dog, and then the dog died, and that was sad.

01:31:09.000 Julio, we're gonna go to Super Chats pretty soon, but I was wondering about your book, because we talked about the riots a bit during the show.

01:31:14.000 Was there anything in there that you wanted to talk about that was on your mind?

01:31:18.000 Yeah, buy it.

01:31:19.000 Where can people get it right now?

01:31:22.000 So they can go to Amazon.

01:31:23.000 I understand if you don't want to go to Amazon, but it's also on Barnes & Noble, Target, Books A Million, Thrift Books, and that's as far as I know.

01:31:33.000 In all seriousness, it's just... This is supposed to be... It's obviously not the end-all, be-all source of riots, because I couldn't be everywhere at once.

01:31:43.000 I wasn't everywhere, unfortunately.

01:31:45.000 But to my knowledge, and I don't want to sound like I'm hyping myself up or blowing myself up too much, it's one of the first really attempts to jot everything down and accurately retell everything that happened in a written form.

01:32:00.000 It is the greatest piece of American literature.

01:32:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:05.000 Oh, I guess I should get a copy.

01:32:06.000 Patriot's fact-checked that and they said yes.

01:32:08.000 Yeah, I saw on PatriotWarrior1776.info it said it was the greatest book ever.

01:32:17.000 And the reason why it's just so important is just because, again, that there was just so much media malpractice as it was happening, and especially in the aftermath of January 6th.

01:32:26.000 I mean, the people who are supposed to be telling us our history and telling things as they are, they're saying no.

01:32:32.000 January 6th is the only one that matters, and obviously I'm not minimizing it by any stretch of the imagination, but there were also all these other riots, and one of the greatest examples of that is a New York Times piece shortly after January 6th, and it was literally about, the premise was, Republicans are pointing to the BLM riots, and the line was something to the effect of, Republicans are using isolated instances of property damage, to what about January 6th?

01:32:58.000 six and we're talking a minimum two billion dollars worth of damage

01:33:02.000 multiple dozens of people were killed over this time period and in in you're

01:33:06.000 gonna you're you're gonna minimize what their you're you the the

01:33:10.000 author of the piece was doing the exact same thing that he was accusing

01:33:12.000 republicans are doing and to me that's just that's just egregious

01:33:15.000 And when we're talking about the gaslighting and the playbook that the media does is that, and they do this with every issue when it comes to making, if it makes liberals look bad or if they can make Republicans look bad, with like the example of the Florida parental rights bill, right?

01:33:29.000 I mean, they were calling it Don't Say Gay and just completely mischaracterizing it. 0.82

01:33:33.000 But that became canon in the eyes and minds of a lot of people because they didn't actually read the darn thing. 0.95

01:33:40.000 They ran that same playbook because they always do it. 0.63

01:33:43.000 But when it came to the riots, they still did that because of their hubris and their arrogance.

01:33:46.000 They thought, well, we're just going to do what we've always done.

01:33:47.000 But it's a lot harder to gaslight people and mislead people when there's whole neighborhoods on fire and there's mass lawlessness.

01:33:53.000 But they still did it.

01:33:55.000 And that's the point.

01:33:56.000 And for me, that's just really frustrating.

01:33:59.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

01:34:00.000 If you have not already, smash that like button, subscribe, share the show, send in your Super Chat questions, and become a member at TimCast.com.

01:34:08.000 We're gonna have a members-only segment coming up at 11 p.m.

01:34:10.000 I think we're gonna be talking about the apocalypse, because there's a whole bunch of apocalyptic stuff happening in terms of droughts, and the economic collapse, and food shortages, but there's some new developments, and we'll talk all about that.

01:34:20.000 And it's not very family-friendly, but I think you'll laugh, because we've had some pretty crazy conversations there.

01:34:25.000 But let's read these superchats.

01:34:27.000 Ehef says, Shamus would make a beautiful woman. 0.96

01:34:30.000 Wrong. 0.98

01:34:31.000 That is absolutely disgusting.

01:34:32.000 No, they're right, Shamus. 0.72

01:34:33.000 Quite frankly, that's wrong.

01:34:34.000 You guys, you're insulting the natural order. 0.79

01:34:36.000 Hideous.

01:34:38.000 All right.

01:34:40.000 DepriveDolphin says, abortion industry is a money laundering scheme that just allows tax dollars to make their way to Democrat campaigns without anyone questioning why.

01:34:47.000 Roe v. Wade will result in Democrat collapse.

01:34:51.000 Really?

01:34:52.000 Interesting.

01:34:53.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:34:54.000 says, as a liberal woman with two cats, harumph, I say! 1.00

01:34:59.000 First of all, I would have to have a bunch of cats, because I would just be a hideous woman. 1.00

01:35:02.000 No one would just be cats, me and my cats.

01:35:06.000 NS says, Tim, your own website says that arrest on protesters is iffy.

01:35:11.000 If Ron Coleman says maybe, then who's right, you or your news site?

01:35:16.000 It's called an opinion.

01:35:17.000 It's called an opinion from Ron Coleman and an opinion from me.

01:35:20.000 And it's not about being right, it's about me saying I think they should be arrested, not that they will be, can be, or that it would be upheld.

01:35:29.000 But yeah, I mean, look, I have my own opinions.

01:35:32.000 All of the segments that go up on TimCast.com from this show and my show say opinion on them.

01:35:36.000 It means, it's what I think should be, or could be, but not necessarily.

01:35:41.000 The thing about opinions, people need to understand that something can sound like a fact, but it's an opinion, right?

01:35:47.000 If someone were to say something like, Google is spying on conservatives, it sounds like a fact statement, like they're doing a thing, but it's actually legally an opinion.

01:35:56.000 Because you're saying, like, I believe based on what I've seen.

01:36:00.000 The challenge with fact statements is that it can be an opinion if it's something that's fairly nebulous or vague or hard to definitively prove.

01:36:08.000 Like, there's a God.

01:36:09.000 Is that an opinion?

01:36:10.000 Uh, I think that would be considered an opinion statement.

01:36:14.000 So, but I don't think that's relevant to any legal context, to be honest.

01:36:17.000 Like there's no circumstance in which the court's going to actually be like, yes or no.

01:36:20.000 I think if you're talking legally, it's one thing, but it's complicated because a lot of times the lines get blurred.

01:36:26.000 So an opinion, like if you're saying something like ice cream tastes the best, that's, I mean, that's an opinion.

01:36:31.000 But if you're talking about whether or not God exists, that is something which is like objectively true or false.

01:36:36.000 Well, the ice cream's the best is a qualifying opinion.

01:36:39.000 There's a qualifier in there.

01:36:40.000 But what you're saying is you can have non-opinions without qualifiers.

01:36:44.000 So there have been instances where someone has said something like, you know, TV personality does X. And you're like, wow, they're saying they did a thing.

01:36:54.000 And then they argue, no, no, it's my opinion that they do this thing.

01:36:57.000 And the courts are like, right, it's an opinion.

01:36:59.000 So, can you prove Google actually spies on conservatives?

01:37:02.000 Definitively, with evidence, you could.

01:37:04.000 But what if you stated they were?

01:37:06.000 I'm not saying they are.

01:37:07.000 Like, Google spies on everybody, I think.

01:37:08.000 Or how about this?

01:37:09.000 Google spies on people.

01:37:11.000 Google right now is spying on us.

01:37:15.000 It's a fact statement, right?

01:37:16.000 It's an opinion statement, actually.

01:37:18.000 It's based on evidence and data that leads me to a conclusion that is... you can't see it, right?

01:37:25.000 I can say, there's a window in front of me, and that's a fact statement, because there is.

01:37:30.000 I can say, you know, I closed the window earlier, and you can say, did he or did he not?

01:37:35.000 Google spying on people, I would say is objectively true, but some will be like, yeah, based on your interpretation of the facts.

01:37:41.000 I'm like, well, they take our data.

01:37:43.000 Is that spying?

01:37:44.000 I don't think that's spying.

01:37:45.000 Spying would mean this.

01:37:46.000 No, spying would be that.

01:37:47.000 Did the person run?

01:37:48.000 Was he running to the store?

01:37:50.000 You said so-and-so ran.

01:37:51.000 Yeah, he was moving very quickly.

01:37:53.000 I think that was a brisk walk.

01:37:54.000 You see how it works?

01:37:55.000 Legally, it's hard to have fact statements, but it sounds like you're making a fact statement, and technically you are, but if people don't agree on what words mean, then you get all sorts of crazy.

01:38:04.000 Anyway, I digress.

01:38:04.000 All right.

01:38:06.000 Let's go back to the super jets.

01:38:08.000 Zach Kemp says, why can't we talk about allowing abortions, but requiring the doctors to do everything they can to save the life of the baby and charge the parents for medical procedures?

01:38:16.000 I mean, that's what I'm saying.

01:38:17.000 Like if they're saying this woman will die unless this nine, you know, this baby at nine months gestation is removed.

01:38:23.000 I'm like, okay, remove it.

01:38:25.000 And then it lives, I guess.

01:38:26.000 Yeah.

01:38:26.000 Right.

01:38:28.000 Um, why would they have to kill it?

01:38:31.000 Because that's the goal, right? 1.00

01:38:32.000 The whole goal is we need to kill this child because we view them as a problem. 0.99

01:38:35.000 Cost, if it's like, we're gonna remove the baby, there's a chance it'll live, it's gonna cost you $400,000, or you can abort it and it'll cost you $600. 0.99

01:38:43.000 Isaac Lux says, Thanks Tim!

01:38:46.000 I've been wanting to order from Biotrust but I've been waiting for this offer.

01:38:49.000 I've recently started Keto and I've lost 16 pounds so far.

01:38:52.000 Amazing!

01:38:53.000 Glad to hear it.

01:38:54.000 Around November I cut out sugars.

01:38:56.000 We've got the Biotrust Keto stuff and I've dropped about 25 pounds.

01:39:00.000 Actually a little bit more than that right now.

01:39:01.000 It's like 27 or 28.

01:39:02.000 It's getting crazy.

01:39:02.000 No joke.

01:39:05.000 I just cut out the sugars.

01:39:06.000 You know what I found out?

01:39:07.000 Um, Michaela Peterson made a really, really great point.

01:39:10.000 Because she was doing the all-meat thing, right?

01:39:12.000 Yeah.

01:39:13.000 She, like, basically just eats lamb.

01:39:14.000 The lioness diet, I think she calls it.

01:39:16.000 She was saying that it's not about just eating meat.

01:39:19.000 It's about elimination.

01:39:20.000 It's about getting everything out of your diet and then slowly putting things back in until you find out what was screwing with you.

01:39:26.000 I found out bread messes me up really bad.

01:39:29.000 Yeah, it's not as much about what you eat, although that is, it's about what you don't put in your body.

01:39:32.000 Fasting is a tool.

01:39:34.000 It's a proactive, it's an activity that you do.

01:39:36.000 I, I, I, so I go for like a month with no bread, no, no gluten, no bread.

01:39:44.000 And I'm eating mostly like nut breads and keto stuff.

01:39:46.000 And I feel fantastic.

01:39:48.000 We go out to eat and I get breaded food.

01:39:51.000 And all of a sudden, the next day, my whoop recovery is cut in half.

01:39:54.000 I feel groggy and cloudy.

01:39:56.000 And I'm like, man, I think that's what it was.

01:39:58.000 And so some have suggested it's fried food.

01:40:00.000 And I'm like, I have fried wings all the time.

01:40:03.000 I get like, you know, wings and they're fried and rolled around in sauce and all that.

01:40:06.000 And I have no problem.

01:40:07.000 And there's other fried stuff I've had that's not gluten.

01:40:10.000 And I've like been fine with it.

01:40:11.000 So I'm wondering if it is gluten.

01:40:12.000 I don't know.

01:40:13.000 Oh, for sure.

01:40:13.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:40:15.000 I was eating some breaded food the other night, and I was like, ah, I'm starting to get full, and I just sat there, I was kind of meditating, and I just heard, like, celiac.

01:40:21.000 It just, like, came into my mind.

01:40:22.000 I thought, yeah, that's what happens, man.

01:40:24.000 People dose on wheat flour, and then they get celiac.

01:40:27.000 There's, like, trendy diet stuff, and I've never cared, so when I cut out the sugars, And then I was like, I'll have a little bit, because I'm not going crazy with it.

01:40:36.000 I would have some bread and then feel sick.

01:40:39.000 But I didn't really think anything.

01:40:40.000 But I think I've collected enough data over the past, you know, since November, so about six months or so, of looking at what I've been eating and not eating and tracking the WHOOP data since I got it.

01:40:48.000 And I'm like, dude, the days where I have wheat grains, my recovery drops.

01:40:52.000 It might be- Also, also alcohol.

01:40:54.000 And it's a combination.

01:40:55.000 I mean, that's, you know, wheat-based and alcohol.

01:40:58.000 My recovery dropped.

01:40:59.000 So the WHOOP tells you, like, your recovery.

01:41:01.000 Since I cut out bread, it's been 80-90% every day, even when I work out, every day.

01:41:06.000 Had one beer, the next day it was like 19%.

01:41:08.000 It was in the red, and it was like, what did you do to yourself?

01:41:11.000 Was it wheat?

01:41:11.000 Wheat beer?

01:41:12.000 It was regular beer.

01:41:12.000 I think it was bloom.

01:41:13.000 Oh, it was a yingling.

01:41:14.000 I mean, is it made from wheat?

01:41:15.000 I don't know if you knew off the top of your head.

01:41:18.000 Sometimes it's the stuff they spray the wheat with, like Monsanto uses a stuff called glyphosate, which is a chemical that they use.

01:41:25.000 It's like an anti-fungal, anti-insecticide or insecticide.

01:41:29.000 But what they also do is they use it as a desiccant, meaning they dry out the wheat by spraying it with this Roundup, this glyphosate, and then they harvest it.

01:41:37.000 So if you're not getting organic wheat, you're very likely getting glyphosate induced right at harvest.

01:41:42.000 It's just, that is...

01:41:43.000 And that stuff's been linked to cancer.

01:41:45.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:41:46.000 Let's see.

01:41:48.000 I see someone mentioning Tim supposedly doesn't drink.

01:41:50.000 I've often said I have, like, a few drinks per year.

01:41:53.000 A few.

01:41:55.000 Yeah.

01:41:56.000 And they're all because I peer pressure him.

01:41:57.000 But now I'm absolutely done.

01:41:59.000 You know, because my thing was, like, I'm not, like, I can't drink.

01:42:02.000 It's impossible.

01:42:03.000 I'm just like, I prefer not to because I like to exercise.

01:42:05.000 You know, when I exercise or write a song, I want to improve.

01:42:09.000 I want protein synthesis.

01:42:10.000 Alcohol inhibits that.

01:42:11.000 But if I'm like, I'm not working out or whatever, and we're all out having a good time, I'll have a beer.

01:42:16.000 And then, once I saw what happened on my recovery, after having beer and having wine, I was just like, I am never touching that stuff again.

01:42:23.000 Like, when you can see the actual results the next day, and you're like, whoa!

01:42:26.000 No like!

01:42:28.000 Alright, let's read some more.

01:42:29.000 I think the kale industry, the kale smoothie industry, is in bed with these people.

01:42:34.000 They're convincing you not to drink things that actually taste good.

01:42:36.000 I don't like kale.

01:42:37.000 Big kale?

01:42:37.000 Whatever it is that these health food people are marketing.

01:42:40.000 We gotta get back to Super Chats.

01:42:41.000 We gotta read more.

01:42:42.000 Put your olive oil on the kale, lemon juice, a little salt, and squeeze it, massage it.

01:42:47.000 It becomes amazing.

01:42:48.000 Let's read Super Chats.

01:42:49.000 Lee Mall says, Ian, stop calling a baby a thing.

01:42:52.000 I'll call your body a thing, but you're a human.

01:42:54.000 It.

01:42:55.000 No one gets pronouns.

01:42:56.000 No one.

01:42:57.000 You can't stop fighting over pronouns.

01:42:58.000 Everyone's it.

01:43:00.000 All right.

01:43:01.000 Griffin says, crazy how the U.S.

01:43:03.000 just gave Ukraine $40 billion in military aid, or in other words, 60% of Russia's annual military budget.

01:43:08.000 Wow.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, we didn't talk about it.

01:43:11.000 $40 billion, was it?

01:43:12.000 $40 billion.

01:43:13.000 And Biden was like, we got to give them $33 billion.

01:43:14.000 And then Congress was like, let's give them $40 billion.

01:43:16.000 And then it's like, this regular American woman just goes, my baby needs formula. 1.00

01:43:20.000 And they're like, shh.

01:43:22.000 Bombs.

01:43:24.000 Yeah, I'm down.

01:43:25.000 Absolutely.

01:43:25.000 Anytime.

01:43:25.000 he had Rekheda on with a few lawyers from the left and are having a good debate on this topic from a law perspective.

01:43:30.000 You should have him on again. Nick's dope.

01:43:32.000 Yeah, I'm down. Absolutely. Anytime. That'd be cool.

01:43:36.000 All right, Jacob Carter says, hey Seamus, God bless you. I have to ask how do you feel about Dr. David Wood?

01:43:42.000 Um, I think I've heard the name. I'm not really familiar with Dr. David Wood.

01:43:49.000 I've heard the name, that's about it.

01:43:50.000 Google him.

01:43:51.000 Richard Knight says, new drinking game.

01:43:53.000 When Ian says, I don't even know what that means, we all take a shot, everyone will be hammered by the end of the show.

01:43:58.000 You know, people always say stuff like that, and it's like, I don't think it's a real, I don't think it would really work.

01:44:03.000 You know?

01:44:04.000 A drinking game based on?

01:44:06.000 Well, people are always like, whenever someone says this, or someone says that, and I'm like, maybe they said it like three times in a short period, but they don't say it every show all the time.

01:44:14.000 All right, Dragon Lady says, Tim, I ordered emergency food while watching your first segment today.

01:44:19.000 You give good advice on that.

01:44:20.000 I've had it before.

01:44:21.000 It was a lifesaver when I lost my job a few years ago and couldn't afford food.

01:44:24.000 You never know what might happen, folks.

01:44:27.000 I mean, yeah, for sure.

01:44:28.000 They're saying fragility of society.

01:44:30.000 Yeah, people don't realize that like New York, it is scary what would happen if the supply chain just stopped.

01:44:39.000 People on that island, there'd be no food.

01:44:41.000 A lot of boats, a lot of boats bringing food in.

01:44:44.000 I don't- No, there's no supply chain.

01:44:45.000 If the food's not- Well, if the supply chain stops, that's a different story.

01:44:48.000 Right, if the food- But if the roads get shut down.

01:44:50.000 If the f- I mean, but I really don't think you're gonna s- Boats can't bring enough food.

01:44:54.000 You need trucks to bring it through the city, too.

01:44:57.000 Alright, not my regrets, it's my wallet, my choice!

01:45:00.000 That's right.

01:45:02.000 I think.

01:45:04.000 Ruben, Ruben, Ruben says, Seamus, please make an animation of Biden chanting Ultra Maga in a cult-like setting as a shadowy society of, a shadowy specter of Trump grows over a pentagram.

01:45:16.000 Then in the end, Biden will be relieved because finally has an actual enemy.

01:45:19.000 Oh my goodness.

01:45:20.000 A specter of Trump.

01:45:22.000 Or he, you know what you should do?

01:45:23.000 You know that thing where they had R. Kelly rapping on the hologram?

01:45:26.000 Oh my goodness.

01:45:27.000 Was it R. Kelly?

01:45:28.000 They had like, it's paint of glass on a stage, and they can project a 3D person on the glass.

01:45:33.000 I think it was Tupac.

01:45:34.000 Tupac.

01:45:34.000 It's not actually R. Kelly.

01:45:35.000 Biden puts Trump in a hologram to create something to rally against.

01:45:38.000 Come on, man.

01:45:38.000 Look, he's over here.

01:45:38.000 There's a lot of baggage there, so they're like, we're gonna do a hologram so that we don't have to...

01:45:42.000 You should be aware.

01:45:44.000 Biden puts Trump in a hologram to create something to rally against.

01:45:49.000 Come on man, look, he's over here!

01:45:52.000 Robotron.

01:45:54.000 Omega says, horseshoe theory is a post hoc fallacy.

01:45:58.000 Authoritarianism is the aim.

01:46:00.000 Left and right are two different paths to the same conclusion.

01:46:03.000 Similar can be said about libertarianism.

01:46:06.000 In what way that's a path towards... Oh, left or right libertarianism.

01:46:10.000 I don't know.

01:46:11.000 It's hard.

01:46:13.000 Left libertarianism doesn't scale.

01:46:15.000 Right libertarianism has currency to help a decentralized network expand.

01:46:18.000 Left libertarianism of, like, cooperation and just, like, agreements without currency, communal systems, doesn't scale.

01:46:25.000 You need... I don't see it.

01:46:27.000 I think no matter what direction you go, if you don't stop and you're just gonna go all the way, you become extreme.

01:46:33.000 And that's the danger.

01:46:33.000 Extremists are dangerous.

01:46:34.000 You gotta have an open mind.

01:46:38.000 Alright, let's see what we got here.

01:46:40.000 Sleeve Zen says my 27 year old daughter, who is perfect, was born at 30 weeks.

01:46:44.000 The baby next to her was born at 19 and thriving, 27 years ago.

01:46:48.000 Why don't they concentrate on better birth control? 1.00

01:46:53.000 I don't know.

01:46:55.000 Shameless to you.

01:46:56.000 Wait, could you repeat that?

01:46:57.000 He's saying that her daughter was born at 30 weeks and is fine.

01:47:01.000 Oh.

01:47:01.000 27-year-old daughter.

01:47:02.000 Yeah.

01:47:03.000 It was 27 years ago that babies could be born premature.

01:47:05.000 Seven and a half months?

01:47:07.000 Was it in an incubator?

01:47:08.000 Mm-hmm.

01:47:09.000 Or was he or she in an incubator, I guess, at that point?

01:47:11.000 They-them.

01:47:12.000 Sim-sir. 0.79

01:47:12.000 Yeah. 0.79

01:47:14.000 Seven and a half months, that's certainly not unheard of.

01:47:17.000 I've known people that were born premature, they would call it, and then they lived the first month or so in an incubator.

01:47:22.000 All right, that guy says, I hope they do codify Roe into federal law using verbiage like,

01:47:27.000 shall not be infringed, and red states just do what they want in restricting access. I'd love

01:47:31.000 to see the left's reaction. Then the Republicans should offer that up. Shall not be infringed.

01:47:37.000 All right. Do you agree? Define infringed. Right. Yeah.

01:47:42.000 All right. Colin H says, have you ever heard of Jennifer Briney and her podcast, Congressional

01:47:49.000 Please reach out to her as a guest.

01:47:51.000 I believe her work investigating Congress for the last 10 years is the most underappreciated podcast you can get.

01:47:56.000 Her work is stellar.

01:47:58.000 Well, okay.

01:47:58.000 Give me that girl's name again.

01:48:00.000 Jennifer Briney.

01:48:01.000 Interesting.

01:48:02.000 Congressional Dish.

01:48:03.000 Hmm.

01:48:05.000 Ben Thomas says, for Seamus, what state is best for a UK citizen to move to?

01:48:09.000 I've got Tim's and Jack's opinion, now I want yours.

01:48:12.000 My two frontrunners are Texas and Florida.

01:48:14.000 If you're from the UK, then stay out. 1.00

01:48:15.000 There's no good state for you.

01:48:18.000 I would say, if you're asking me, I can't speak specifically to the British experience and what might translate to life in America, but if I were going to start over in any state, I think I would pick Florida.

01:48:33.000 I wouldn't do Florida.

01:48:34.000 Why not?

01:48:34.000 Why not, Tim?

01:48:35.000 It's a purple state.

01:48:37.000 That's why I would make it red.

01:48:39.000 I'd go there, boom, every vote counts.

01:48:40.000 It is, I think, getting redder, for sure.

01:48:42.000 A lot of people are moving there.

01:48:43.000 I do think it's a good opportunity for someone who wants to, you know, push back on the establishment to go.

01:48:49.000 Me, personally, I think West Virginia is the place to be.

01:48:52.000 Mountain Mama.

01:48:53.000 There's an opportunity for bringing good jobs to a more sparsely populated state.

01:48:59.000 There's a lot of good people here.

01:49:01.000 I looked at Florida and I'm like, it's massively developed.

01:49:05.000 They call Miami the capital of Latin America.

01:49:07.000 And I'm like, it's great, they're doing great things for sure.

01:49:10.000 Yeah, what's wrong with Latin America? 0.99

01:49:11.000 No, I think it's fantastic what Florida's doing.

01:49:14.000 I want to bring new jobs and new opportunity to West Virginia and start building culture and bringing economic power to people who share values with me, like liberty, personal responsibility, etc.

01:49:26.000 No, I hear you.

01:49:26.000 I love West Virginia.

01:49:28.000 I also love Georgia, where I spent several years of my life, but I'm sort of more thinking along the lines of, if I were to start over and go somewhere else, where would it be?

01:49:38.000 I gotta say Florida.

01:49:39.000 This one's for you, Seamus.

01:49:40.000 Loretax says, Seamus, ten years ago when I was pro-abortion, I became pregnant and got an abortion at 22 weeks.

01:49:46.000 It was the biggest mistake of my life.

01:49:48.000 Is it possible for such a sin to be forgiven?

01:49:51.000 If so, will I get to meet him in heaven?

01:49:53.000 That's a really good question.

01:49:54.000 So, there is no sin which is greater than Christ's sacrifice on the cross.

01:50:00.000 If you are truly repentant of your sin, And also if you forgive the sins of others that have been committed against you, you can absolutely repent of that sin and confess.

01:50:12.000 I would encourage meeting with and discussing with a Catholic priest if I understand there have been some in the past stipulations about whether you could be forgiven directly by a priest or whether there would need to be forgiveness by a bishop if I'm not mistaken.

01:50:24.000 Really?

01:50:25.000 Yes, because I think it incurred excommunication.

01:50:30.000 Oh, I see.

01:50:32.000 I want to double-check here.

01:50:33.000 I know that for the Year of Mercy, Pope Francis basically extended it so that priests could... Let me take one second to Google this.

01:50:41.000 That kind of feels weird to me.

01:50:43.000 Well, I think it's any crime against humans.

01:50:44.000 I think it's any crime that ends up killing a person.

01:50:46.000 But I want to actually Google this so I can be sure.

01:50:50.000 about these details and give her something more concrete.

01:50:53.000 I'm just saying, like, the idea that there needs to be a hierarchical nature of the church to determine whether you can be forgiven for something you're repentant for seems a little odd to me.

01:51:00.000 Well, I don't think it's the, um, I don't think it's a question of determining whether you can be forgiven.

01:51:06.000 I need to double check.

01:51:07.000 I think it's just a question of, like, who has the authority to forgive in that circumstance, because if you've incurred an excommunication, I think there's a different process for the forgiveness.

01:51:14.000 But like I said, I really want to double check on this.

01:51:16.000 This is the first I heard of the Year of Mercy, the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy.

01:51:19.000 This is from 2015 to 2016.

01:51:22.000 What was it exactly?

01:51:22.000 Like, they just made it easier to forgive?

01:51:25.000 Yeah, so I really want to try to pull up the details so I'm not giving inaccurate information about this question.

01:51:30.000 There was a, um...

01:51:32.000 An incident where there was a centennial at a church where if you walked through the arches, all sins had been forgiven.

01:51:38.000 And it was a serious risk to the creation of the universe because if Loki and Bartleby crossed through, they would be forgiven of their sins and allowed back into heaven, which would then prove God fallible and result in the undoing of the universe.

01:51:49.000 That makes more sense.

01:51:51.000 I have no idea what you just said.

01:51:53.000 I'm talking about Dogma.

01:51:54.000 Oh, I didn't see it.

01:51:55.000 The Kevin Smith movie.

01:51:56.000 Shout out to Kevin Smith.

01:51:56.000 That was the plot of the movie.

01:51:58.000 Spoiler alert on a 30 year old movie.

01:52:00.000 Jeez, I haven't seen it yet.

01:52:01.000 Mallrats is awesome. 1.00

01:52:03.000 Yeah, in Dogma, that's basically what happens.

01:52:06.000 The church is like, we're gonna forgive all sins.

01:52:08.000 Loki and Bartleby were, you know, banished from heaven, and if they get forgiven, they can go to heaven, and that would prove God fallible, which would undo the universe.

01:52:15.000 I think it was a funny movie.

01:52:17.000 And then they were just like, there's a point where, I think in the beginning, it's Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, and he's like, why would some priest claiming this be true actually allow us in?

01:52:28.000 And then he's like, what you hold true on Earth, we hold true in heaven, or something like that.

01:52:32.000 It's a funny movie.

01:52:33.000 But I think it's, like, an atheist's perspective on religion.

01:52:36.000 You know, so they make a bunch of points that are just, like, not relevant, I think, to it, but it's a funny movie nonetheless.

01:52:42.000 Jane Silent Bob. 0.99

01:52:44.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:52:46.000 More Super Chats.

01:52:47.000 Steven Brooks says, My cousin can't medically have kids, but she has always dreamed of being a mother.

01:52:52.000 She adopted Amelia just two months ago in Texas.

01:52:55.000 Amelia was slated to be aborted, but the band stopped it.

01:52:58.000 My cousin has a daughter today only because of the Texas law. 1.00

01:53:01.000 That's so wonderful.

01:53:02.000 Wow.

01:53:03.000 It is just really shocking to me when they're like, that impoverished child shouldn't live.

01:53:09.000 And what they do is, there's a meme I saw where it's pro-lifer saying, we believe in life, you can't abort that baby. 0.97

01:53:17.000 And then it's like nine months later and she's holding the baby and they're like, we're not going to provide you with anything, you're on your own, you loser or whatever. 0.96

01:53:23.000 And I'm like, You know, it's a silly argument, because the same argument applies, that you're basically saying, like, that baby should be dead. 0.99

01:53:30.000 You know, it's like, by all means, show the conservatives screaming, you'll get no handouts, you lazy person, and then, at the same time, show the liberals screaming, and that baby should be dead! 0.97

01:53:41.000 Yeah, well, I've said this before, like, when witnessing a child poverty, the pro-lifer thinks the problem is the poverty, the pro-choicer thinks the problem is the child. 0.95

01:53:50.000 Yeah, it's really just a crazy argument when they're like if you're poor the baby should die and I'm like, oh man, I Don't know about that.

01:53:57.000 That's pretty that's pretty extreme.

01:53:59.000 Well, it's like it's it's not like they're saying the baby was born now kill it They're saying the baby should never have been allowed to be alive because you're poor not even given it's like a chance It's a pretty they're like conservatives will will punish you for having the baby and won't support your baby's life abort it I'm like, I don't know, that sounds kind of weird, dude.

01:54:17.000 No, some of my greatest role models grew up really, really poor.

01:54:20.000 Some of them in the deep Jim Crow South. 0.87

01:54:22.000 And I just wanted to say, I think that, oh, I saw a super chat earlier that was like, you know, if a mother, if a father can get rid of his parental responsibility and abortion is outlawed, can a mother do the same thing?

01:54:33.000 Yes, it's called adoption.

01:54:35.000 You can give your child up for adoption.

01:54:37.000 You can place your child on the step of a fire department and you don't have to take responsibility for it.

01:54:43.000 These are options that no one ever talks about.

01:54:45.000 Can a man do that?

01:54:46.000 A man?

01:54:47.000 Probably not.

01:54:48.000 No.

01:54:48.000 Feminists would not want him to be able to do that.

01:54:50.000 That's the thing, like the woman can literally give the baby away without telling the guy, but the guy cannot absolve himself of responsibility unless the woman says so.

01:54:57.000 So think about it this way.

01:54:58.000 What would happen if a woman had a baby and then put the baby on the steps of a fire department without telling the guy? 1.00

01:55:04.000 He could file a suit for custody, but the woman still got to choose to give it away. 1.00

01:55:08.000 Right.

01:55:09.000 The guy doesn't have any choice to remove involvement.

01:55:12.000 It's a big leap of trust with women.

01:55:14.000 I mean, you really got to realize how important women are. 0.98

01:55:17.000 The man has to trust that the woman has the best intentions of the baby and the husband and the man.

01:55:22.000 Wait, I wanted to, to what that person said that it was the Texas abortion ban is the reason why your, was it your sister has now a kid? 0.75

01:55:29.000 Cousin.

01:55:30.000 Cousin has a kid.

01:55:31.000 Even if the ban hadn't gone through, if your cousin really wanted to adopt a baby, she would have.

01:55:37.000 Nothing would have stopped her.

01:55:39.000 Isn't there like a backlog of parents who want to adopt but can't?

01:55:43.000 Yes.

01:55:43.000 It's very expensive.

01:55:43.000 Maybe it would have been more challenging, but I'm sure she would have found a way.

01:55:46.000 Haven't these people watched 30 Rock?

01:55:48.000 Where Liz Lemon is desperately trying to adopt and it's very difficult and they are trying to prevent her from doing it.

01:55:53.000 This is actually true to life because the adoption process needs to be overhauled.

01:55:57.000 It's incredibly expensive.

01:55:58.000 It takes an incredibly long time.

01:56:00.000 And so many people want to adopt babies.

01:56:02.000 Many people who can't have kids don't want to do IVF.

01:56:04.000 IVF is super expensive, but so is adoption.

01:56:06.000 What are you supposed to do?

01:56:07.000 Remember on 30 Rock when Tina Fey's character Confesses that she tells her friends she voted for Obama,

01:56:13.000 but she actually voted for McCain I thought that was funny cuz I'm like is that joke supposed

01:56:17.000 to be relatable or funny to these people?

01:56:18.000 Cuz back then it was it was a joke and it was like, oh, that's funny nowadays. They'd be like what?

01:56:23.000 How dare you?

01:56:25.000 Make a character.

01:56:26.000 Alright.

01:56:27.000 The Hylian Juggalo says Neil Shusterman's book series from 2007 called Unwind predicted a second civil war and where we are going in regards to abortion.

01:56:35.000 Given we're talking about aborting born babies, get set for teen body harvesting. 0.99

01:56:39.000 Please read the synopsis.

01:56:40.000 Wild.

01:56:41.000 Remember on South Park when Eric's mom tries to get the doctor to give her an abortion and he's like, how far along are you?

01:56:47.000 And she's like, the 493rd trimester or something like that.

01:56:50.000 Like some ridiculous number.

01:56:51.000 He's like, wait, what? 0.62

01:56:53.000 She tried.

01:56:55.000 Yeah.

01:56:56.000 He's like, so your kid's 10 years old?

01:56:58.000 Yep.

01:56:58.000 The Jaded Kriegsman says, as a Minnesotan, I can tell you that we might actually see Waltz lose.

01:57:04.000 Crazy crime levels, CRT in schools, and down economy might finally turn the suburbs against the DFL teachers union mafia in Minnesota.

01:57:10.000 Good.

01:57:11.000 Well, and that's again, we're still very much dealing with the effects of those rides because people just saw how far they could take it.

01:57:18.000 And so now it's like happening on a low intensity level with, because we're seeing the smashing grabs, like this spontaneous looting that happens with like five people and then they all run out because there's no consequence for that.

01:57:32.000 Alright.

01:57:32.000 But Dylan Atlatin says, I work retail, and a customer came in and lectured me

01:57:36.000 on how the Z on Samsung's marketing boards are offensive.

01:57:41.000 The customer equated it to a swastika with the letter Z.

01:57:44.000 The hyper-politization of society is rampant.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, well, you know, that's Russia, so.

01:57:49.000 Nona, to give, says, after Daryl Davis tried to get Tim Keller, he's been a minister

01:57:56.000 in New York City for 30 plus years, so should have good cultural insights.

01:58:01.000 As a topic of discussion, how to forgive when a deservate apology is not forthcoming.

01:58:08.000 Arduick says for Ian, does the media gaslight and get things wrong most of the time?

01:58:12.000 Two, why do you believe the media about Kent State?

01:58:15.000 ROTC building burned, police attacked day before.

01:58:19.000 Day of, students threw rocks and fireworks at National Guard.

01:58:22.000 Oh yeah, yeah, the kids were throwing stuff at the, I mean the adults I guess at that point were throwing stuff at the cops before, at the law before they fired.

01:58:28.000 I don't know if the media's gaslighting, I mean I imagine that they are from the evidence I've seen.

01:58:31.000 Throwing rocks at National Guard doesn't warrant a lethal response that killed bystanders.

01:58:35.000 That's why it was such a tragedy.

01:58:37.000 John Galt says Tim's right.

01:58:39.000 We are already in a civil war.

01:58:40.000 It is being fought via lawfare, culture, and institutional change.

01:58:43.000 Occasionally it turns to hot war and open violence.

01:58:46.000 The only person on offense against the postmodern leftists is Ron DeSantis.

01:58:50.000 Yep.

01:58:51.000 He's like the first Republican I've ever heard of who's like, I am going to do things and not just react to things.

01:58:55.000 But I don't want to soften the word war.

01:58:56.000 I think you, Seamus brought this up a couple weeks ago, not to soften these terms, because if we were really in a civil war, There'll be a lot more dead bodies.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, there's no civil war right now.

01:59:06.000 It's like conflict, civil conflict you're seeing.

01:59:09.000 Well, it's civil strife.

01:59:10.000 That's what Stephen Marr said.

01:59:12.000 When you get, I think, what did he say, more than 70 deaths in a political context per year, you're in civil strife.

01:59:17.000 The challenge, though, is the expansion of population density and population growth.

01:59:21.000 So when that number was set, were they looking at populations that were 20% the size of the United States as the population grows?

01:59:29.000 We need to look at per capita.

01:59:31.000 How many, how many political killings per capita to become civil strife?

01:59:35.000 And also frequency, because if it happens all in one night, and then there's like nine months of peace, then that's not really strife.

01:59:40.000 There was like a, you know, what if it happens in... It was fiery, but most of peace it was.

01:59:44.000 Just keep an eye out for a caning in Congress. 0.60

01:59:46.000 Okay.

01:59:46.000 Because when that happens, we're gonna be like, okay, hold on everybody.

01:59:49.000 There's the canary in the coal mine right there. 0.87

01:59:50.000 There's gonna be a duel.

01:59:52.000 By the way, I found some information that I want to give to that Super Chatter from earlier, so I wanted to make sure to get this from a couple of sources. 0.99

01:59:58.000 From what I'm reading, at the end of 2016, or at the end of the Year of Mercy, Pope Francis actually extended this ability, so as far as I understand, you can go to confession and confess something like that to a priest.

02:00:13.000 So, I would absolutely encourage her to do so.

02:00:16.000 Like I said, there's no sin that you have committed that is so horrible that God will not forgive you and he's given you the sacraments to be able to receive that absolution.

02:00:26.000 So, God bless you and I will keep you in my prayers.

02:00:29.000 All right, we'll get a couple more in here. 0.84

02:00:30.000 HB Brian says, James O'Keefe just dropped FBI whistleblower.

02:00:35.000 Ooh, that sounds spicy.

02:00:37.000 We'll check that one out.

02:00:39.000 All right, Jordan Bushaw says, I was born in Ukraine and adopted by my mom, who was born in the U.S.

02:00:44.000 I thank God for her and that Ukraine seems to value life more than the U.S. 1.00

02:00:48.000 Love you, mom.

02:00:49.000 Adoption is always an option.

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02:01:47.000 Yeah, no, I mean, thanks for having me again, and yeah, I really hope that, you know, for people who read it, I mean, it took a lot of work into it.

02:01:54.000 I mean, it was certainly a labor of love, and it's kind of crazy that I'm a published author now.

02:02:00.000 I never thought I would do that, so I just hope people read it and enjoy it.

02:02:03.000 Soon-to-be New York Times best-selling author.

02:02:05.000 I mean, I don't care about... I mean... Soon-to-be.

02:02:10.000 Accept it!

02:02:12.000 If they don't throttle it, because, you know, they've been known to...

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02:02:24.000 That's... I've not won a single award in my life.

02:02:28.000 Oh my gosh, I'm an award!

02:02:29.000 Congratulations, Seamus.

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02:02:34.000 It is a pen that symbolizes the drawing.

02:02:37.000 That's what I figured.

02:02:37.000 Well, this is very... I like that the thing is sort of torn off, the clip is torn off, because I'm, you know... Well, it represents the realism.

02:02:45.000 That's right.

02:02:46.000 Exactly.

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