Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Democrats Indict Trumps LAWYERS, Trump MUST Surrender In 10 Days w-Conservative Ant

00:00:00.000 If I went to you five years ago and said that in five years you would have had a

00:00:29.000 have a series of events, the biggest and worst riots we've seen in this country in 50 years,

00:00:35.000 far left extremists would tear down the barricades of the White House, set fire to a guard post

00:00:38.000 and the church across the street, the president would be forced into an emergency bunker underneath.

00:00:44.000 Then later on...

00:00:46.000 Several hundred Trump supporters would breach the Capitol during the counting of Electoral College, which would result in federal agents raiding the homes of people across the country, even innocent people having their homes raided by feds.

00:00:59.000 And ultimately, Donald Trump would not only be indicted in multiple jurisdictions, but the Democrat DOJ would be preparing indictments against his lawyers, and Democrats at the state level would have indicted his lawyers.

00:01:13.000 If I were to tell you all that, you'd tell me I was crazy!

00:01:15.000 I know for a fact because when I said in 2018 that what we are seeing on the ground will eventually find its way to the federal government, I was told that I was crazy.

00:01:24.000 Mike Cernovich says that what we're seeing right now is akin to the massacre of Tsar Nicholas's family in the Bolshevik Revolution.

00:01:32.000 But that happened, I believe that was a couple years after the actual revolution, or maybe a year or so.

00:01:36.000 Not getting my timelines right on this one, but they brought them, locked them up, and then eventually said, you know what?

00:01:42.000 We can't risk your family surviving, and then massacred his family.

00:01:46.000 Call it whatever you want.

00:01:47.000 You know, we can say that it's a civil war, but I think maybe that's unfair considering that requires multiple factions actually in some kind of opposition to each other.

00:01:55.000 What may actually be happening is more akin to the Bolshevik Revolution, but call it whatever you want.

00:02:00.000 Democrats in various jurisdictions are using the weight of government to attack their political rivals to the extent that they have now in Georgia, this news came out, it dropped around 1 a.m.

00:02:11.000 or so, They have indicted lawyers for Donald Trump.

00:02:15.000 In fact, one of the lawyers for Trump is actually, at this point, not a big fan of Trump and fairly pro-DeSantis.

00:02:22.000 There's a lot to talk about with this.

00:02:24.000 There are many Trump personalities who started changing their tune a few months after January 6 and then a year or so after. 0.88

00:02:33.000 They're all of a sudden on board DeSantis calling Trump a grifter and a conman.

00:02:37.000 Take a look at the statements they made around or before January 6, when they were saying there was fraud, encouraging people to be active, encouraging people to go down on January 6.

00:02:47.000 I believe that there are many personalities, lawyers, consultants, social media personalities, who knew that because they had advocated for what Trump was trying to do with his legal team, Because there are videos of them advocating for action on January 6th, they would find themselves indicted at some point.

00:03:06.000 It's happening.

00:03:07.000 They're going after Trump's lawyers.

00:03:09.000 The next step?

00:03:10.000 Likely going to be personalities who are in contact with Donald Trump's legal team, who then took to the airwaves, be it social media, digital, or television, terrestrial, and advocated for his plans, his policies, and for people to protest on January 6th.

00:03:24.000 They'll say this was incitement and furtherance of the conspiracy.

00:03:27.000 In Georgia, they're already saying that there are many, many more unindicted co-conspirators.

00:03:33.000 In D.C., they're saying that there are a few unindicted co-conspirators, and we expect they will be indicted soon as well.

00:03:39.000 I don't know where all this goes, but ladies and gentlemen, escalation seems to be the only place it can go.

00:03:45.000 And maybe I'm wrong, and I'd love to be wrong, but every time something happens that's worse than it was a month ago, I say it seems like it'll get worse.

00:03:53.000 I don't know what you call this period where Democrats in multiple jurisdictions are targeting the home of the former president, the former president, and his lawyers, anyone who represented him.

00:04:07.000 We already know with the J6ers, many lawyers dropped them as clients or refused to take them on in the first place. 1.00

00:04:13.000 So let's talk about all of that and a bit more.

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00:05:17.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Conservative Ant.

00:05:21.000 What's up, guys?

00:05:22.000 Thanks for having me.

00:05:23.000 Super excited.

00:05:24.000 Who are you?

00:05:24.000 What do you do?

00:05:25.000 I'm a social media political comedian, I guess you will.

00:05:30.000 TikTok, Instagram, all the platforms.

00:05:34.000 I also advocate for protecting children in anti-grooming with Gays Against Groomers. 1.00

00:05:40.000 Been part of that for quite some time.

00:05:42.000 And also sex trafficking in general.

00:05:45.000 I'm trying to bring awareness to it.

00:05:47.000 So, yeah, I wear many hats.

00:05:50.000 Right on! 0.80

00:05:50.000 Well, thanks for hanging out. 0.80

00:05:51.000 It should be fun.

00:05:51.000 Thank you.

00:05:52.000 Thanks.

00:05:52.000 We got Phil!

00:05:53.000 How you doing?

00:05:54.000 I am Phil LaVonti, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:05:59.000 Anti-communist?

00:05:59.000 You got your work cut out for you now.

00:06:01.000 I mean, you know, there's just so many commies around nowadays.

00:06:04.000 You know, like 12 years ago or 10 years ago, something like that, I wrote this op-ed complaining about Tom Morello because he's a commie.

00:06:12.000 And everyone's like, oh no, he's not.

00:06:13.000 Are you sure?

00:06:14.000 And blah, blah, blah.

00:06:15.000 Now if I wrote that and it was like, oh, he's a commie, everyone's like, well, obviously.

00:06:18.000 And it's like, people need to, like, we need to... Go ahead, Ian.

00:06:22.000 So you think... I'll go on and on and on.

00:06:24.000 Because I'm considered anti-something, because like, I don't know what you are, but... Liberal.

00:06:29.000 I'm a liberal.

00:06:30.000 I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I believe in the Enlightenment philosophy.

00:06:34.000 I believe that we can know reality.

00:06:37.000 I believe that the truth...

00:06:40.000 It's part of what makes instruments phenomenal in science is that we don't have to rely on someone to tell us what the result was.

00:06:52.000 We have an instrument to decide or show us all.

00:06:55.000 I am Ian Crossland and I am drinking the pumpkin spice.

00:06:58.000 Latte mix, right? 0.92

00:06:59.000 It's light.

00:07:00.000 It is delicious.

00:07:00.000 I put some peanut butter powder and coconut water in, and it tastes like Reese's Pieces cups.

00:07:05.000 Ooh.

00:07:05.000 What's up, homies?

00:07:06.000 Pieces. 0.84

00:07:07.000 Let's get down and dirty, dawg.

00:07:09.000 Oh, earlier today I did a Twitter space with Zach Voorhees.

00:07:11.000 We talked about AI and God.

00:07:12.000 It was fascinating.

00:07:13.000 It's on my Twitter page, but watch this show, and the link's on my page.

00:07:16.000 I'll tell you about it later again.

00:07:17.000 Hey, Serge.

00:07:19.000 What's up?

00:07:20.000 I will definitely check that out.

00:07:21.000 Imsurge.com.

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 One final thing.

00:07:24.000 Okay.

00:07:25.000 I did an X space with the dude that owns SpaceX.

00:07:29.000 You think that was intentional when he bought it?

00:07:31.000 When he renamed it?

00:07:32.000 You just wanted to do it because it was that.

00:07:34.000 Is it the guy that owns SpaceX?

00:07:37.000 Elon Musk?

00:07:37.000 Yep.

00:07:38.000 The one and only.

00:07:38.000 He owns X. Okay, so.

00:07:40.000 He does space.

00:07:41.000 Right on.

00:07:42.000 Well, let's jump into this first story.

00:07:43.000 Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, from Reuters.

00:07:45.000 Georgia charges Trump and former advisors in 2020 election case.

00:07:50.000 Hey, hold on there a minute, Reuters.

00:07:52.000 Those were lawyers, not advisors.

00:07:54.000 I guess you can technically say that they were advisors because they gave him legal advice as lawyers, but that's constitutionally protected.

00:08:01.000 What does Michael Malice call this?

00:08:02.000 Factual, but not truthful?

00:08:04.000 Yes, it's factual.

00:08:05.000 They advised him, but they're lawyers.

00:08:07.000 Former US President Donald Trump was hit with a sweeping fourth set of criminal charges on Monday when a Georgia grand jury issued an indictment accusing him of efforts to overturn his 2020 election laws to Democrat Joe Biden.

00:08:18.000 It's a 98 indictment listing 19 defendants and 41 criminal counts.

00:08:22.000 Now, last night we talked about how The Fulton County Court released the indictment against Donald Trump prematurely, took it down, called it a fictitious document, then denied it.

00:08:34.000 Now what they're saying it was, it was a sample document and it accidentally got published.

00:08:38.000 It should never have happened.

00:08:40.000 So, uh, they lied then or they're lying now, but take your pick.

00:08:44.000 I think it's fairly obvious they were planning to indict Trump, uh, bring these charges against him well before a grand jury was convened.

00:08:51.000 And more importantly, They could have done it years ago.

00:08:55.000 It is being done today for political purposes.

00:08:58.000 I want to show you the indictment and some of the more silly elements of it, but the seriousness of it can be explained right here on the front page.

00:09:08.000 Fulton Superior Court.

00:09:10.000 The state of Georgia versus Donald John Trump.

00:09:12.000 Rudolph Giuliani, who I believe was his lawyer.

00:09:15.000 John Eastman, also a lawyer.

00:09:17.000 Mark Meadows, that was Trump's chief of staff, that was Mark Meadows.

00:09:22.000 You've got, who else do we have?

00:09:24.000 Kenneth Chaseborough, I believe was a lawyer.

00:09:26.000 Jeffrey Clark was a State Department attorney.

00:09:29.000 Jenna Ellis was also an attorney.

00:09:31.000 Interestingly, Jenna Ellis has been rather anti-Trump over the past several months and has been critical of him now, but also supporting DeSantis.

00:09:41.000 Also, people are pulling up very old posts from her where she was very anti-Trump early on.

00:09:46.000 Ray Smith, Robert Cheeley, Michael Roman, David Schaefer.

00:09:51.000 David Schaffer, that one's actually fairly interesting, because he met with an alternate slate of electors, then told the press, all that matters is if the court cases proceed, they'll have an alternate slate of electors.

00:10:02.000 For that, he's being criminally charged.

00:10:05.000 Sean Still, Stephen Lee, Harrison Floyd.

00:10:08.000 Trevian Cootey, this is funny because that's Kanye West's publicist.

00:10:15.000 Apparently she had advocated on behalf of the Trump campaign to an election official that they should pursue an investigation into voting machines.

00:10:22.000 That's a criminal conspiracy.

00:10:24.000 Sidney Powell, yep.

00:10:26.000 Kathleen Latham, who I believe was one of the election officials who opened the door for the Trump campaign in Coffey County.

00:10:33.000 Scott Hall and Misty Hampton, another election official, I believe opened the door.

00:10:38.000 So what you have here, you have a State Department attorney being criminally charged.

00:10:43.000 You have a series of lawyers being criminally charged.

00:10:46.000 Mark Meadows was the Chief of Staff of Donald Trump.

00:10:49.000 Okay, that's what I thought.

00:10:49.000 He was?

00:10:49.000 You checked?

00:10:49.000 Yeah.

00:10:50.000 I thought I was right.

00:10:51.000 Wanted to be sure though.

00:10:53.000 Criminally charged in Georgia.

00:10:55.000 Why?

00:10:56.000 Because of a legal theory pertaining to what the vice president is or isn't allowed to do.

00:11:01.000 Here's my view.

00:11:02.000 Mike Pence does have the authority to reject votes in the electoral vote count.

00:11:07.000 Richard Nixon had done it before.

00:11:09.000 He chose Democrat votes over Republican votes despite the fact that Democrats were certified.

00:11:14.000 This is 1960.

00:11:15.000 So using that legal theory and precedent, Mike Pence would have been able to do it.

00:11:19.000 Well, Mike Pence didn't do it.

00:11:20.000 There you go.

00:11:21.000 Whatever.

00:11:22.000 A lot of people don't like the guy, but that's it.

00:11:22.000 You don't gotta like the guy.

00:11:24.000 They had a legal theory and plan.

00:11:27.000 They asked Mike Pence.

00:11:28.000 He said no.

00:11:29.000 It's over.

00:11:30.000 Now, we can see exactly why Mike Pence refused to engage.

00:11:34.000 I'm willing to bet they went to him and said, if you go along with this, You will be arrested, you will be charged, and we will destroy everything about your life.

00:11:42.000 The interesting thing is, they kept making the argument the Vice President had no authority to do this, and then Mike Pence made the mistake of doing a TV interview recently where he said, I could have pushed the votes back and it would have gone to the state, to the House of Delegations, the House of Representatives.

00:12:00.000 So he knew exactly what his authority and powers were.

00:12:03.000 There were numerous articles written by left-wing personalities, journalists, where they explained, if Mike Pence rejected electoral votes, then House delegations would vote for the president.

00:12:14.000 That's the normal procedure.

00:12:16.000 So Mike Pence, Democrats, the media, everybody began lying, saying he never had the authority to do so in the first place, which wasn't true.

00:12:22.000 They then changed the laws later on to say, yeah, he can't do that.

00:12:25.000 But at the time he could.

00:12:27.000 So what we were really looking at was nothing criminal, but legal theory.

00:12:31.000 The next people, in my view, who will face criminal indictments.

00:12:37.000 Television, media, political, high-level influential personalities who were in communication with Donald Trump or his lawyers, who then went on Twitter, YouTube, Fox News, whatever, and advocated for these election strategies, advocated for legal challenges and to find votes, advocated for the Dominion claims, and Additionally, those who encouraged protest on January 6th, and those who cheered on January 6th.

00:13:09.000 There are a lot of people, I'm not going to name them, let this be their own business, that pre-January 6th were cheering, saying, yes, yes, people should go down, and saying that people should engage in certain behaviors.

00:13:24.000 Then January 6th happened.

00:13:27.000 Some people actually cheered on what happened that day on social media, saying, why are people mad about this?

00:13:34.000 Even at leftists, the Gravel Institute cheered for January 6th, not that they advocated for it.

00:13:41.000 Months go by, a year goes by, and you may notice that some of these personalities became hardcore DeSantis supporters and absolutely anti-Trump.

00:13:50.000 I think there's a very obvious reason why they were crying and shaking and begging in in hopes that if they turn on Trump, the DOJ, the state level prosecutors will overlook them and not criminally charge them.

00:14:06.000 Now, I can't say who necessarily holds those.

00:14:10.000 I think it's I think many of the people who turned on Trump probably felt that way.

00:14:16.000 I'm not going to say I can tell you definitively any of these individuals.

00:14:19.000 I will, however, point out Jenna Ellis, who turned on Trump recently, has been advocating heavily for Ron DeSantis and is now facing criminal charges and is trying to raise money.

00:14:29.000 The sad thing here is that ardent Trump supporters are not the biggest fans of Jenna Ellis now, and so she has no support.

00:14:39.000 She's raised a few thousand dollars for her legal defense. 0.83

00:14:43.000 I think she deserves a legal defense. 1.00

00:14:45.000 But by turning on Trump and trying to go into the DeSantis camp, you're looking at mustering up, what, 10% of the GOP?

00:14:52.000 Yeah.

00:14:53.000 But does it matter at this point?

00:14:55.000 Like, if you supported that from the beginning, and then you, like, last minute ditch effort to, like, oh, I'm going to support DeSantis in hopes.

00:15:04.000 That I'm not going to get in trouble.

00:15:06.000 I mean, obviously it doesn't matter, right?

00:15:09.000 It's an ancient struggle session tactic to get someone to denounce their own views publicly before you serve their, before you take them to sentence.

00:15:15.000 Socrates refused to do it.

00:15:17.000 He spoke the truth until the moment he died.

00:15:21.000 Some people, you know, it is an old, it is an old battle tactic, an authoritarian tactic to get the crowd, because then you can say, well, they admitted it, so.

00:15:28.000 Right.

00:15:30.000 She, you know, she, whatever. 1.00

00:15:32.000 They're charging them under RICO.

00:15:33.000 What does that mean?

00:15:34.000 Criminal Enterprise.

00:15:35.000 Saying that it was a criminal organization that was conspiring to engage in illegal behaviors. 0.98

00:15:40.000 I think that is ridiculous. 0.99

00:15:42.000 I mean, the whole thing, in my opinion, is ridiculous. 0.98

00:15:44.000 I don't think anybody that's charged Donald Trump is a Republican at all. 0.89

00:15:50.000 The entire thing is Democrats, right?

00:15:52.000 Well, no.

00:15:53.000 Did they say Jack Smith?

00:15:54.000 Is Jack Smith a Democrat?

00:15:57.000 Look, you had a Republican go on TV in Georgia and be like, Trump ruined the Republican Party.

00:16:02.000 You've got neoparty.

00:16:03.000 You've got tokens.

00:16:04.000 Neocon and uniparty shells.

00:16:06.000 I want to read for you Act 22 of the indictment.

00:16:10.000 They say on or about the third day of December 2020, Donald John Trump caused to be tweeted from the Twitter account at Real Donald Trump, quote, Georgia hearings now on OANN.

00:16:21.000 Amazing.

00:16:22.000 This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

00:16:27.000 Now, a lot of people have said there are a lot of provisions in here about tweeting and one was insulting Mike Pence, calling him a wimp or something like that, and that these were illegal activities.

00:16:36.000 No, no, no.

00:16:36.000 These aren't illegal actions.

00:16:38.000 They are arguing that Trump tweeting proves he was engaged in a conspiracy, that he was advancing his conspiracy by tweeting this. 0.97

00:16:45.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.82

00:16:47.000 To attempt to defend yourself or use the legal means at your disposal to try to affect an outcome. 0.93

00:17:00.000 The point was that these means were legal to try to say, hey, let's recount to see if there was some kind of fraud.

00:17:08.000 That's perfectly legal.

00:17:10.000 The fact that they're trying to prosecute I honestly think the fact that they're trying to prosecute people that were in any way in business with Trump or on Team Trump essentially boils down to, and this might seem a little hyperbolic, but essentially boils down to the same reason that they just smoked a dude in Utah.

00:17:31.000 I think that the 75-year-old dude that was making threats about the president, they could have wrapped him up.

00:17:37.000 The guy could barely walk. 0.81

00:17:39.000 They could have kicked in his door and got him without killing him.

00:17:43.000 They didn't have to drag his body out and leave him laying on the sidewalk.

00:17:47.000 They didn't have to do that.

00:17:48.000 There was an intent there, which is to intimidate the American people or intimidate people that

00:17:53.000 are anti-establishment.

00:17:54.000 And the same thing is going on, I think, for the people that have worked with with Donald

00:17:59.000 Trump.

00:18:00.000 They're trying to intimidate people that are anti-establishment saying, look, if you would

00:18:03.000 help people that are against the establishment, against whatever you want to call it, whether

00:18:08.000 you want to call it the deep state, you want to call it the bureaucracy. 0.98

00:18:10.000 I don't give a crap what name you put on it. 0.97

00:18:12.000 If you're against that, then we're going to unleash as much effort or as much attention 0.99

00:18:19.000 as it requires to neutralize you.

00:18:21.000 And it's the biggest, most powerful government in history.

00:18:24.000 It can do multiple things at once.

00:18:26.000 Taking care of you, your issues, they can do that and still do all the same stuff that they have planned.

00:18:33.000 So it's not some kind of problem for them to shut people up or to shut people down or to intimidate people into silence.

00:18:41.000 Do you think there were any personalities who got visits from Democrats, law enforcement, and were told, you're going to come out against Donald Trump or we're going to come after you?

00:18:50.000 I'm sure.

00:18:50.000 And probably the bigger personalities, right?

00:18:53.000 I don't think... Yeah, the big personalities.

00:18:56.000 But then it trickles down a little bit too, because then you have the small time, right?

00:19:01.000 Someone like me who's on Instagram or any of us that are on other social media platforms that, by the way, the Biden administration is using young Gen Z influencers to his advantage where we don't, where the conservatives don't.

00:19:16.000 But could they go after us too then?

00:19:19.000 Could they go after the little guys?

00:19:20.000 Sure, they do it all the time by banning your accounts.

00:19:22.000 That's what they're doing.

00:19:23.000 I honestly do think this is all about intimidation.

00:19:26.000 I think that the reason that, like I said, that the dude in Utah got smoked, I think the reason they're going after all of the people that were associates of Trump and stuff like that, I think that it's something that the establishment wants.

00:19:39.000 Look, they've said clearly after January 6th, there were members, former members of the intelligence apparatus.

00:19:49.000 I forget the guy's name.

00:19:49.000 I think it was Brennan was the guy that was on.

00:19:51.000 But he was talking, he's like, anyone that has anti-government opinions or feelings, everyone in America that is right of center to some degree is anti-government.

00:20:06.000 They want smaller government, even people that are like establishment.

00:20:10.000 Right-leaning people.

00:20:12.000 They're ostensibly smaller government, but like anyone that's like a MAGA person or a libertarian or any kind of anarchist or independence that want to limit the military-industrial complex or people that want to limit the security state and the surveillance apparatus, all of those people are the enemy of the government now.

00:20:33.000 But the problem is, I want a healthy government, and if that means it needs to slim down because the government has become obese, I'm okay with the government going on a workout program.

00:20:41.000 They are not, though.

00:20:43.000 That's the problem.

00:20:44.000 I don't agree.

00:20:45.000 If the government wants to preserve itself, it needs to take itself seriously and restructure itself from time to time.

00:20:49.000 But it's got the guns!

00:20:50.000 That's why we need to restructure from time to time, as a unit.

00:20:53.000 How do we do that?

00:20:54.000 Well, Vivek Ramaswamy suggests that we cut the FBI, I think it's the FBI, and then send a lot of the, you know, fire a lot of the administrative guys, you know, but then move a lot of the necessary pieces to other parts of government.

00:21:07.000 Homeland Security, CIA, Department of Energy.

00:21:10.000 He has it listed, in fact, and I retweeted it.

00:21:12.000 It's on Twitter.

00:21:12.000 I'd love to point you to it.

00:21:14.000 I'm on the same page with you, homie. 0.55

00:21:16.000 Vivek is great.

00:21:18.000 I think that he's a great candidate.

00:21:20.000 But nobody can say his name.

00:21:21.000 The Cake Man!

00:21:22.000 We gotta call him the Cake Man because it's Vivek like cake.

00:21:26.000 We gotta call him the Cake Man to get people to remember.

00:21:30.000 Anybody that runs or anybody that has an opposing opinion from This is my opinion from this current administration or the left is Automatically just they're like no no no no because they've now thrown out all these racist homophobic Xenophobic like all these words if you're for some reason anti-government We're seeing it now that people are thinking that the American flag makes you racist and like

00:21:58.000 It's just, it's a never-ending problem.

00:21:59.000 No matter who you are, if you come out against the current administration, you're wrong.

00:22:05.000 Whether it's Vivek, Vivek?

00:22:07.000 Vivek.

00:22:09.000 Sorry about that, Vivek.

00:22:10.000 He forgives you.

00:22:11.000 Yes, thank you.

00:22:13.000 Or anybody else.

00:22:14.000 You know, I mean, they're even doing it to Kennedy, and he's one of them.

00:22:18.000 I think it's important to remember that anti-government and smaller government is not the same thing.

00:22:23.000 You need a healthy government, and sometimes it needs to be smaller or larger to make it healthy.

00:22:27.000 But if you love your government, you want it to be the healthiest it can be, and that means sometimes slimming down the bloat.

00:22:32.000 Well, I don't swear.

00:22:35.000 Love the government?

00:22:36.000 What's the love about the government?

00:22:37.000 Yeah, not really.

00:22:38.000 It's a chance for us to, you know, coordinate national defense and protect each other.

00:22:41.000 That's military.

00:22:43.000 And economic, transportation.

00:22:45.000 I don't like, I don't want, I mean, well, I mean, obviously I'm as a libertarian kind of leaning kind of guy, I want the small, the smaller government.

00:22:52.000 So as much cutting as you can do, I'm going to be down with, so.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, I'd like to start.

00:22:56.000 I want to show you a few examples.

00:22:58.000 So we did get a super chat.

00:23:00.000 Virtual Rifle says, read Act 156.

00:23:02.000 There's a handful of acts in this in furtherance of the conspiracy.

00:23:07.000 One of them is a good example, Act 156.

00:23:09.000 Donald John Trump committed the felony offense of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer when he said to Brad Raffensperger, a public officer, Quote, decertify- I'm sorry, he said- I want to make sure they- I'll just read it.

00:23:25.000 Public officer, he asked him to engage in conduct constituting the felony offense of violation of oath by public officer by unlawfully, quote, decertifying the election or whatever the correct legal remedy is and announce the true winner in willful and intentional violation of the terms of the oath of said person as prescribed by law.

00:23:42.000 That's probably the perfect example of what this is.

00:23:45.000 Donald Trump said to the Secretary of State, engage in the correct legal remedy for what is going on.

00:23:53.000 And that is a violation of your oath of office or solicitation of a violation of oath of office to ask someone to enact correct legal remedies.

00:24:02.000 In fact, he said, do a thing, which may or may not have been legal, or the correct legal remedy.

00:24:08.000 Meaning, if the thing was illegal, you instead do the correct legal remedy.

00:24:12.000 So how is asking someone to do a legal remedy illegal?

00:24:16.000 Because they are just indicting.

00:24:21.000 Indictments don't matter.

00:24:22.000 As we've pointed out time and time again, women aren't legally allowed to skydive in Florida on Sunday. 0.98

00:24:26.000 Ain't no woman's getting arrested for that. 1.00

00:24:28.000 Right.

00:24:29.000 Disorderly conduct.

00:24:30.000 What does that mean?

00:24:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:32.000 Define it in the moment.

00:24:33.000 I've seen people engaged in free speech be criminally charged with disorderly conduct.

00:24:38.000 That's a charge they can slap on anyone for any reason at any time.

00:24:43.000 And then they can arrest you, remove you, and then maybe you go to court and you say, Your Honor, I was just speaking and the judge says, okay, you're free to go, but you still got locked up.

00:24:52.000 If you don't get bail, you could be in there for a month or longer.

00:24:55.000 If you get locked up on the weekend, on a Friday, you're there over the weekend.

00:24:59.000 That sounds, what you just read about that, of him asking a guy to do the legal remedy, and then they're saying that what he did was illegal by asking that guy to do a legal thing?

00:25:07.000 I don't, I still don't understand that.

00:25:09.000 Maybe that's because there's something in there that was... Here's another good one.

00:25:13.000 Byron York says, It has to lead to an illegal act eventually, doesn't it?

00:25:17.000 Look at David Schaeffer, GAGOP chair.

00:25:19.000 He meets with Trump, quote, electors, December 14th, 2020, explains to the press that electors are contingent on Trump winning a lawsuit.

00:25:28.000 And that is forgery, false statement, and impersonating a public officer.

00:25:31.000 That's what they're charging him with.

00:25:33.000 Alternate electors have been done before.

00:25:35.000 This is the Democrats just basically saying, we will do whatever we want and we will crush you.

00:25:41.000 And right now, what are we getting from Republicans in the GOP?

00:25:44.000 Angry tweets.

00:25:48.000 Angry tweets?

00:25:49.000 It's...

00:25:52.000 I'm looking forward to getting a monitor in here cuz I gotta I gotta read this So and they want this to go all the way up, you know They want to prolong this for as long as possible because ultimately they don't want Trump to the Republicans.

00:26:05.000 Well, maybe both They want to preserve order.

00:26:08.000 That's for sure.

00:26:08.000 So the Democrats want definitely want Trump and I mean, I don't know I mean, I don't have a whole lot of faith in Trump's ability to win.

00:26:19.000 If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him.

00:26:21.000 I'm going to vote for whoever is not the Democrat, not Biden.

00:26:26.000 But I don't see that he's going to make a whole lot of, especially with all of the indictments, I don't see that he's going to be bringing a lot of people over.

00:26:37.000 You don't think that this motivates people more to want to vote for him?

00:26:41.000 Not people that don't. 0.78

00:26:42.000 Not people that don't already kind of like him.

00:26:44.000 If you're not somewhat sympathetic to Trump already, if you weren't, I don't think this is making people sympathetic to him now.

00:26:52.000 I don't think it's sympathetic to Trump.

00:26:55.000 I think it's more of a At this point, it's like, okay, because he's being indicted all these times, I'm going to vote for it.

00:27:07.000 I don't know.

00:27:08.000 I feel like it's a mind thing.

00:27:09.000 I don't think that you're wrong.

00:27:11.000 I think there are people that do feel that way.

00:27:13.000 I don't know that it's enough to win the presidency.

00:27:17.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 That's my opinion.

00:27:19.000 I mean, there is no right and wrong, I guess, answer, but... Well, I mean, we don't know.

00:27:23.000 You can't know until after, until the election.

00:27:25.000 But I personally don't feel like, I feel like there are people that strongly want Trump.

00:27:32.000 And there are people that are always going to be committed to Trump.

00:27:34.000 I just don't know that there, I don't know that there are enough people that would go over to Trump that have been in the middle.

00:27:42.000 I just don't know.

00:27:43.000 I don't know who that voter, the undecided voter that goes over is.

00:27:46.000 I've, I've, uh, it's really funny.

00:27:49.000 There are a lot of people who are terminally online and, uh, these activists online say things like touch grass and it's like, bro, you are a leftist on Twitter who does nothing but just, we, like, I'm, I'm going, we, we go out on the weekends to various different middle, middle of nowhere places often.

00:28:06.000 And, you know, we talk to people who ask them questions and I found something really interesting between, with friends of friends, uh, extended family members and just people out in the general public.

00:28:17.000 People that I know a couple years ago who are passively anti-Trump have become passively anti-Democrat.

00:28:24.000 Doesn't necessarily mean they're going to vote for Trump.

00:28:26.000 But a few years ago, you know, we're coming on the back end of the COVID lockdowns and the pandemic and all that, they were very much on board with the corporate narrative.

00:28:36.000 Then you kind of destroy the economy, destroy their trust, force them to do things they don't want to do, lock them in a box.

00:28:41.000 And now I'm talking to some of these people and they're saying things that are passively anti-establishment, anti-democrat.

00:28:47.000 So I don't know where they end up voting, but if Donald Trump becomes the, once again, the avatar of the anger and frustration of these people, he gets their vote.

00:28:57.000 Someone tweeted a good point that people aren't necessarily voting for Trump.

00:29:01.000 They're voting for what the machine hates the most and fears.

00:29:04.000 That's it.

00:29:05.000 Yeah.

00:29:06.000 I watched Trump.

00:29:06.000 He did a speech today, I think, on Truth Social.

00:29:09.000 Four minutes.

00:29:09.000 He talked about basically about Joe Biden and he could count on the Biden crime family talking about 20 million that they got from, geez, was it China or Ukraine?

00:29:17.000 Where's, Bidens are getting their money from all over foreign states.

00:29:21.000 And like that's what people are voting against.

00:29:23.000 I think when you're talking about voting against the narrative, it's voting against a president who had a son.

00:29:28.000 Our president's son was on the board of a, uh, in a random country on earth, some Ukraine, halfway across earth.

00:29:34.000 The president's son was on a energy board in some crazy foreign country. 0.99

00:29:39.000 And the guy was a crackhead. 0.88

00:29:40.000 What in the, and now it's at war with Russia. 1.00

00:29:42.000 Like what in the hell?

00:29:43.000 Put these pieces together.

00:29:44.000 Uh, and that's what people are voting against.

00:29:46.000 If they start, if they vote against them.

00:29:47.000 I want to jump to this story from Yahoo!

00:29:50.000 Huffington Post.

00:29:51.000 Jenna Ellis mocked for invoking God after getting indicted.

00:29:54.000 Well, you know, let her invoke whatever she wants to invoke. 0.99

00:29:57.000 She tweeted, The Democrats and the Fulton County DA are criminalizing the practice of law.

00:30:01.000 I am resolved to trust the Lord and I will simply continue to honor, praise, and serve him.

00:30:06.000 I am deeply appreciative of all my friends who have reached out, offering encouragement and support.

00:30:10.000 Jenna Ellis was a lawyer for Trump. 0.77

00:30:12.000 Now she's getting roasted by Trump's most ardent supporters.

00:30:14.000 We've got this tweet from Laura Loomer. 0.84

00:30:16.000 Professional liar and Trump backstabber Jenna Ellis was indicted last night.

00:30:20.000 For the last several months, she has been attacking Donald Trump online with Team DeSantis. 1.00

00:30:24.000 She betrayed Donald Trump, I personally think she intentionally sabotaged him because I can't fathom how anyone can be as stupid as she is, and decided to support Ron DeSantis instead. 0.98

00:30:32.000 She's been attacking Trump online for having his PAC pay his legal fees, even though his supporters are more than happy to donate to the cause. 0.99

00:30:38.000 Jenna has called Trump supporters grifters, and she's been retweeting other DeSantis supporters who attacked Donald Trump.

00:30:44.000 Now she is crying online begging Trump supporters to donate to her legal defense fund. 0.98

00:30:48.000 Laura goes on and calls her vile and a liar. 1.00

00:30:51.000 But I do think it's really interesting.

00:30:54.000 I'm not going to say I can speak for Jenna Ellis personally, specifically.

00:30:58.000 I have no idea.

00:30:59.000 But there are many people Who, hey, go look at their YouTube videos, go look at things they said when they were guests on TV shows.

00:31:08.000 Who advocated for action on January 6th, who advocated for Donald Trump's legal actions, who advocated for alternate slates of electors and all of these things.

00:31:18.000 Directly demanding it be done, saying that people should occupy or people should do this, that or otherwise.

00:31:24.000 How long do you think until Democrats in various jurisdictions start going after them saying that they were inciting and encouraging and those that were in communication with Donald Trump were acting in furtherance of the conspiracy?

00:31:37.000 I don't.

00:31:39.000 Well, my thought is.

00:31:41.000 It's tough to tell, but what they want is Donald Trump to not be president and for there to be order across the United States.

00:31:47.000 So if they start persecuting the population, I think that will serve as a breakdown of order.

00:31:53.000 I don't know how far, you know, like when you get what you want, you don't want to take any more than that.

00:31:57.000 You got enough?

00:31:58.000 You're saying that they fear they could go too far?

00:32:00.000 Yes.

00:32:02.000 I'm not so sure.

00:32:03.000 I don't think they care how far they go.

00:32:05.000 We have not seen an instance of de-escalation.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, where's the off-ramp?

00:32:11.000 What's the off-ramp?

00:32:12.000 What is the thing that makes someone say, we don't escalate, we don't take it to the next obvious level?

00:32:19.000 Federal law enforcement raided the home of some woman in Alaska because she looked like another woman who went into the Capitol. 1.00

00:32:25.000 If they are willing There's a man locked up right now, it's been two and a half years, without charge or trial, because he won't disavow Donald Trump.

00:32:38.000 He's in DC, in prison.

00:32:40.000 If they're willing to do that to random people...

00:32:43.000 Are you saying that they would just decide, like, well, this guy's got a million followers on, you know, Twitter or whatever, and he was telling people to go there and engage in this behavior.

00:32:51.000 You think they're going to ignore Alex Jones?

00:32:53.000 Well, if random... Alex Jones was leading one of the rallies outside the Capitol building.

00:32:57.000 Now he said, don't go in.

00:32:58.000 But they're not, they don't care.

00:32:59.000 Right.

00:33:00.000 Well, they're not doing it to random, necessarily random people.

00:33:02.000 The guy was at Jan 6.

00:33:03.000 That's why he's... And the woman, they thought she was at Jan 6.

00:33:06.000 It'll be the people with the wrong political... No, but they have... It's not going to be random.

00:33:10.000 They have done random stuff.

00:33:12.000 I believe.

00:33:12.000 Not random.

00:33:14.000 They have not gone after random people.

00:33:16.000 It's always politically motivated.

00:33:17.000 There's always people with the wrong political opinion.

00:33:19.000 So it's not random.

00:33:20.000 No, right.

00:33:21.000 I think he's saying people who weren't at January 6th.

00:33:23.000 Correct.

00:33:24.000 Yeah.

00:33:24.000 I have heard.

00:33:26.000 That they have gone to people's homes that weren't even at Jan 6 and that's to your point What if I did a podcast two years ago, and I said yeah, I really don't care what happened on January 6 like Sure, it was fine.

00:33:40.000 They can just come to you and come knock on your door and say hey you Because you agreed with what happened on j6.

00:33:48.000 We're taking you in well I think more likely they're gonna go to the individuals that pre January 6 Who were telling people to go there, and there are a lot of quotes that I won't say, but they were people who were advocating for direct action at the Capitol.

00:34:05.000 Not that these people were never there, but they're going to say that they were inciting insurrection.

00:34:12.000 More importantly, there are high-profile personalities who were in direct communication with Trump and his legal team and then went on TV or YouTube or whatever and said, either as guests or hosts, this is the plan, this is what they're doing, it's totally legal, and everyone should support them for it.

00:34:28.000 They're going to say, that person was part of the conspiracy.

00:34:32.000 Trump told them we need to build support, use your platform to encourage everyone to help us, and they're gonna say it was a conspiracy.

00:34:36.000 There might be people that wanted a march on the Capitol, and a siege of the Capitol, and then a prevention of the legal process.

00:34:43.000 There might be people that did that.

00:34:44.000 But a lot of those people were just there, and that emergent phenomenon of mob mentality took over.

00:34:49.000 A lot of people were waved in by cops, I've heard.

00:34:52.000 Cops were taking selfies with people.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, it wasn't like everyone went there to overthrow the government.

00:34:57.000 That's not what happened.

00:34:58.000 A lot of people got wrapped up in this.

00:35:00.000 And I don't even know if Donald Trump wanted to overthrow the government.

00:35:02.000 I don't know.

00:35:03.000 This is the point.

00:35:05.000 If they're willing to go after some 60-year-old dude who walked around outside and didn't even go in the building.

00:35:11.000 There are people who are criminally charged who never entered the building, but they were on the grounds, and that's good enough.

00:35:17.000 If they're gonna go after them, to the extent where they went to a woman's house in Alaska, and she wasn't even in the building, and raided her home.

00:35:25.000 She was actually in Washington, though.

00:35:26.000 She was in Washington at the Trump speech or whatever, but she never went in the Capitol building.

00:35:32.000 She looked like someone because she had a similar coat, so they raided her house.

00:35:35.000 Well, there's people that were saying that there were hot dog vendors there, there were people that were playing music.

00:35:40.000 They went for people that were on the outskirts of all of this that was going on.

00:35:46.000 If you were in a picture, oh, we know that, we see that person, we're gonna go ahead and you're arrested, we're closing your bank account down, we're doing this, doing that, locking you up, whatever, whatever they did to him, I have no idea, I wasn't there.

00:36:00.000 But I will say this, as an influencer online, Was I asked by followers?

00:36:07.000 Hey, are you going to go?

00:36:09.000 I didn't think it was gonna go that way I thought it was gonna go like a totally different way We're like we were gonna get hurt because people didn't like Trump supporters.

00:36:17.000 So I was like, I'm good on this one I would recommend you guys don't go right because maybe we'll get hurt But they could go after all the little guys like myself at the time that might have been like go there Let's go there.

00:36:32.000 Let's let's It's just crazy.

00:36:34.000 I think it's gonna be bigger personalities because as we move into 2024, their goal is to silence anyone who would provide public support for Trump.

00:36:42.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 So first they go for his legal team.

00:36:45.000 Anybody who helped him.

00:36:46.000 Many of the J6ers can't get lawyers. 1.00

00:36:49.000 Then they're going to target moderate to large personalities who are in the Trump periphery, who are advocating for and supporting Trump's presidency because they want to hurt that.

00:36:59.000 They want people to fear supporting Trump.

00:37:01.000 Fear. 0.96

00:37:02.000 And there are a lot of people who used to be the most ardent Trump supporters who turned on a dime and are now saying Trump's a grifter and a conman and DeSantis is the light in the way.

00:37:12.000 And I just think that's very, very funny because I think these people posted YouTube videos You know, where they were very, very on board with Trump, and now all of a sudden they're panicking.

00:37:23.000 Right?

00:37:23.000 I think they started to get scared.

00:37:25.000 Interesting.

00:37:26.000 You know, I've heard, there's background talk, and I try to avoid saying stuff like this, but I'm sure most of you who are listening have heard something to this effect.

00:37:35.000 That people believe Ron DeSantis is a deep state plant.

00:37:39.000 It's a little bit of an exaggeration.

00:37:40.000 Donald Trump supported Ron DeSantis, so whatever.

00:37:43.000 But there are people who believe that DeSantis is supported by deep state elements, by these, you know, uniparty fundraisers, so that he can be the safe landing for Trump supporters, an off-ramp for them.

00:38:00.000 They want total control.

00:38:02.000 The Uniparty will take control. 0.76

00:38:03.000 Donald Trump is an anomalous.

00:38:05.000 How do you get people to stop supporting Trump and support someone who's your controlled opposition?

00:38:12.000 Ron DeSantis.

00:38:13.000 Does all the culture war stuff right.

00:38:14.000 Florida looks really good.

00:38:16.000 But then when Trump comes back, Ron can't manage the campaign, and then he fumbles.

00:38:19.000 But there are a lot of people who believe that.

00:38:22.000 And again, I'm not saying that's true.

00:38:24.000 I'm saying that when you backdoor private conversations with people involved in politics, their attitude is you see the people who begin funding Ron DeSantis, and it looks like they're hoping he can be more controllable than Trump, and Trump supporters will back him.

00:38:39.000 Well, the only way you're going to get a Trump supporter to not support Trump is do all this other stuff that we're talking about to him, because then you won't have a choice if he's not on the ticket, right?

00:38:54.000 Then by default, then you would go for someone like DeSantis.

00:38:57.000 Trump isn't going to lose his current supporters.

00:39:00.000 He never will.

00:39:02.000 Sorry, but he can skin a cat online, and people will have excuses for why he did that, and they're still gonna vote for him.

00:39:11.000 His base is strong, in my opinion.

00:39:13.000 There are, yeah.

00:39:14.000 And the only way you're gonna get those, sorry, but the only way you're gonna get... I mean, I love him.

00:39:19.000 Like, I love what he did for the country.

00:39:21.000 So, for me, I never wavered from that.

00:39:24.000 I'm Floridian so I think Ron DeSantis needs to fix what Hurricane Ian did to us last year before he starts running around the country doing all this presidential stuff.

00:39:33.000 But you have to get rid of Trump somehow in order for his supporters to not have him to vote for.

00:39:40.000 There are instances of people that are like, well, Vivek's younger, smarter, faster, and he wants to continue what some of the policies Trump was doing.

00:39:48.000 I'm going with the younger, smarter candidate.

00:39:49.000 There are some people.

00:39:50.000 I think you're right for the most part.

00:39:51.000 The people that are emotionally invested in a human tend to stay emotionally invested in the human.

00:39:56.000 I personally serve a function.

00:39:57.000 I serve the function of president, and I don't care what person it is at the moment.

00:40:00.000 I want the best candidate.

00:40:02.000 Right.

00:40:03.000 Policy.

00:40:04.000 Policy, personnel, temperament, policy, things like that.

00:40:06.000 Temperament's a big part of it.

00:40:07.000 The big part of where Trump's misgivings is that people don't like him. 1.00

00:40:11.000 That he's alienated and insulted so many people that behind the scenes are like, yo, get rid of that guy, he's an asshole. 1.00

00:40:15.000 Like, we don't want... That's the same thing that happened to Socrates. 1.00

00:40:18.000 I'm not gonna brag about Socrates all night, but that's the same thing.

00:40:20.000 Socrates, brilliant man, poor social skills.

00:40:23.000 Pissed off too many people in high up positions.

00:40:25.000 So, that's a problem with temperament.

00:40:26.000 And you need to be a grand unifier presidential... I want to read this tweet from Mike Cernovich.

00:40:33.000 We have an initial tweet from J. Michael Waller who said, not even the Soviet Communist Party did this type of legal weaponization during its last years in power.

00:40:42.000 Mike Cernovich says, right.

00:40:43.000 We are in the early stages where Bolsheviks are shoring up power. 0.89

00:40:47.000 The Cold War analogies don't hold up.

00:40:49.000 We are in the quote, the czar and his family are massacred phase of history.

00:40:54.000 I'm curious what you guys think.

00:40:56.000 Because obviously, you know, I was probably still trending on Twitter.

00:41:00.000 I was trending all day for saying, for like the 800th time, you are in a civil war.

00:41:04.000 But this one time, people were shocked that I said it.

00:41:07.000 Oh, come on, it's a meme.

00:41:09.000 But I don't know if civil war is a fair way to assess it, because we may not be in active war, as some people describe it, but I think at the fundamental definition of multiple factions fighting over control of government, you are certainly in something akin to that.

00:41:25.000 And many people say, well, maybe it's a cold civil war, and that's a fair point as well, or it could just be a Bolshevik communist or communist revolution.

00:41:32.000 I've said a bunch of times I think that we're in the middle of a cultural revolution in the United States, similar to the one that happened in China.

00:41:38.000 A communist revolution?

00:41:40.000 A cultural revolution.

00:41:41.000 Yeah, I know, but... Communist, yeah.

00:41:42.000 Communists are involved, that's for sure.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, the thing is that it's not communist like, you know, back in the day, like the philosophies have evolved.

00:41:50.000 So this is a, you want to call it neo-communist or something like that, neo-Marxist, that's fine because it's a new version, it's based...

00:41:58.000 You know, there's, it's like there's multiple different kind of, it's almost like it's a religion, one overarching religion, and there's different sects of it, you know what I mean?

00:42:08.000 So I'm not, like, I know I've seen on Twitter there are people that are upset that you said that and stuff, but it's like, I've kind of felt like we're in the middle of a, not an actual civil war, obviously, because there's not, you know, Considerable violence in the street between warring factions, but we are in an information war.

00:42:29.000 Isn't there?

00:42:30.000 No, there's not like there's not there's not okay there because I'm talking about like actual gunfights.

00:42:37.000 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

00:42:39.000 And that's and that's what they're that's what they're the people that are upset.

00:42:42.000 They're upset because Civil War brings to mind gunfights in American streets, and that's what they don't want people to be referring to.

00:42:49.000 And so I want to be completely clear.

00:42:51.000 We are not in a Civil Cold Civil War, because there's not gunfights over territory with factions fighting the United States government, fighting each other.

00:42:59.000 There's an information war going on, I agree with that.

00:43:02.000 Cold Civil War.

00:43:02.000 Cold Civil War is fine.

00:43:03.000 We're in a Civil War period.

00:43:04.000 Yes, those I agree with, but it's not gunfights.

00:43:08.000 We've already had people killed.

00:43:10.000 Yes.

00:43:11.000 We've had numerous... There's political violence, there's... Occupations, autonomous zones.

00:43:17.000 Weaponization of government by one faction? Yeah, one faction arresting their

00:43:22.000 political opponents. All of this, that's why I said earlier today, all the stuff

00:43:25.000 that's happening here, people that are outside of the United States context,

00:43:29.000 outside of the Western context, when they look at us and they see, oh one political

00:43:33.000 party is persecuting their opponents, they're arresting people, they're

00:43:36.000 charging as lawyers, blah blah blah. 1.00

00:43:38.000 They see that and they are like, that is all Banana Republic shit. 1.00

00:43:42.000 And no matter how much Bill Kristol and the morons at the New York Times want to shove their head in the sand and swear up and down that America's different, the rest of the world sees right through their horseshit. 1.00

00:43:54.000 Right through it. 0.97

00:43:55.000 Because only Unreliable and furthermore, again, the fact that this makes America look unreliable only hurts the dollar when it's never been weaker, when we've never had more debt, when we've never had a

00:44:11.000 Well, it's been a long time since we've had the type of income inequality that we do have in the U.S.

00:44:18.000 There are a lot of problems that all of this stuff only makes worse, you know?

00:44:23.000 So I don't see... Stephen Marsh says that we're in civil strife, which is the period that occurs right before a civil war happens.

00:44:31.000 Civil strife.

00:44:33.000 Civil strife is when you have, I think, what do you say, like 70 or more per year political deaths, and the U.S.

00:44:38.000 is well beyond that.

00:44:39.000 Most people just don't track these things.

00:44:42.000 But what people also don't realize, and I have to say this every single time, there was a revolution in Egypt.

00:44:47.000 Two of them, actually, within like a span of a year of each other.

00:44:50.000 If you went to the mall, you wouldn't know anything was going on.

00:44:53.000 And because of this, people watch movies, And they think civil war means you look out your window and guys in uniforms are marching down the street.

00:45:02.000 Yeah, it looks different.

00:45:03.000 Go watch the videos of the Syrian civil war where you see people walking around with groceries and going grocery shopping.

00:45:09.000 People don't stop surviving and living and doing basic things like eating food and going to the grocery store simply because somewhere there's fighting going on.

00:45:17.000 When I worked for Vice, we wanted to do this documentary on Syria, this is like the peak of the civil war, because in Damascus they were advertising tourism.

00:45:26.000 In the United States, we were getting ads for Damascus nightlife, and we thought that would be absolutely wild to go to Damascus and document how people were just living their lives while there's like sarin gas attacks happening 50 miles away, highways being taken over, people were blowing each other up with shells and there's snipers everywhere, but in the city, You wouldn't have known, for the most part.

00:45:50.000 So because of, I think, condensed history and movies, people assume that there can't be any kind of warfare because the average person is going grocery shopping.

00:46:00.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's what I witnessed in every place I've been to.

00:46:03.000 So does the southern border or any of the crime in any major city, any of that other stuff contribute to the current civil war?

00:46:11.000 100%.

00:46:11.000 So that's what I was saying.

00:46:12.000 So let's say this.

00:46:13.000 Because there is, I mean, the death, The gun violence in Chicago and L.A.

00:46:19.000 and New York is kind of Civil War.

00:46:21.000 The southern border, I think, is the biggest, the biggest component that people should consider when it comes to the escalation into Civil War.

00:46:28.000 Let's say that by hard definitions, we are in civil strife, as Stephen Marsh described it in his book titled The Next Civil War.

00:46:36.000 He's actually a, he described himself as a multicultural democracy kind of guy and more in favor of the liberal worldview, so be it, and he says we're not quite in civil war yet, civil strife.

00:46:45.000 Let's say that's the case.

00:46:47.000 There's various scenarios that could occur which will lead us into full-scale civil war.

00:46:52.000 And it's not going to be this ridiculous, I hear about a Klan banging a gavel on a podium. 0.94

00:46:57.000 That's nonsense.

00:46:58.000 What it's going to be is that groups of militia will start forming on the southern border because of the crisis.

00:47:04.000 You've got an old man. 1.00

00:47:05.000 Traffickers were crossing his property. 1.00

00:47:07.000 They get shot and killed. 0.78

00:47:08.000 I don't know if he's the one who did it.

00:47:09.000 They arrest him.

00:47:11.000 The guy- His own land!

00:47:12.000 His own property! 0.86

00:47:13.000 Traffickers!

00:47:15.000 Coming across his property.

00:47:16.000 He defends his property, they arrest him.

00:47:18.000 He's gonna go to prison.

00:47:20.000 Eventually, you're going to have people say, the federal government has abandoned us.

00:47:25.000 There's no law enforcement down here, and the drug and human traffickers are running rampant.

00:47:31.000 We've already had, what do they call themselves, the minute men in the past in various militia groups.

00:47:36.000 At what point do they actually then just assert territory and all of a sudden, this could already be happening right now, by the way, because these stories have been persistent for the past 10 years or so.

00:47:47.000 Right now, there could be a faction of people on a certain point of the southern border, say Arizona, Arizona's probably a good state for it, that there's open border, barrier-less border, and they don't recognize federal authority because the federal government's abandoned them.

00:48:02.000 Like, I'll put it this way, they're not actively planting flags and saying there's no government, they're saying, that doesn't pertain to us, I don't care.

00:48:09.000 They then start acting on their own behalf.

00:48:12.000 What happens when one of these groups sees someone smuggling children, traffickers, which happens a lot, all the time, and they stop these traffickers, a gunfight breaks out and they kill these guys, and then the federal government tries to arrest them?

00:48:26.000 The thing about civil war is that it's not going to be... People have this view of civil war because of the American Civil War that it'll be two factions who will all sign treaties together and various states will be like, we're all working together and shake hands.

00:48:36.000 No.

00:48:36.000 When in reality, it's going to be various factions within states.

00:48:40.000 And if you take a look at how Syria devolved into civil war, it was various factions fighting the government and they all had different perspectives and views and eventually started coming together and I think that was the Free Syrian Army.

00:48:50.000 I could be wrong.

00:48:51.000 We could see something similar where you have pockets, you have groups that feel the federal government is derelict or is illegitimate.

00:49:01.000 The indictments against Donald Trump at the federal level, if Trump is removed from the ballot, how soon until sentiment grows in various rural areas where they're like, we don't answer to you anymore, you are not the government.

00:49:12.000 It takes only 10 guys or so to assert that ideology, that worldview, that if Donald Trump is removed from the ballot, then whoever is in office is not the actual government.

00:49:23.000 Confidence shatters.

00:49:25.000 One of the things I think they're trying to do with the indictments is to maintain confidence that their power is absolute.

00:49:30.000 But that does not work.

00:49:31.000 It never works.

00:49:33.000 That just leads to rapid destabilization.

00:49:35.000 The Soviet Union only lasted 69 years.

00:49:37.000 Perhaps we get a Bolshevik-style revolution in the United States, Democrats and their crackpot neo-Marxists gain power, and it lasts 30 years.

00:49:44.000 Who knows?

00:49:45.000 Or maybe, when that does happen, you will get various roaming factions of individuals in rural areas that don't answer to the federal government anymore, and the federal government can't contain them and starts to ignore them.

00:49:56.000 People need to understand, the amount of personnel in the federal government is not large enough to contain widespread unrest, not at the urban level, but at the rural level, where people are just simply saying, we don't answer to you.

00:50:10.000 Or they put up checkpoints, or they just outright stop paying taxes or something like that.

00:50:14.000 I mean, didn't, didn't they set up, like, what, was it CHAZ a thing?

00:50:17.000 Remember when they set up that whole... Yeah.

00:50:19.000 How many days did that go?

00:50:20.000 The autonomous zone.

00:50:21.000 The autonomous zone.

00:50:21.000 I mean, how many days did that... The George Floyd autonomous zone, I think, was like a year or two.

00:50:25.000 So why can't, why wouldn't that happen?

00:50:28.000 That's exactly what I'm talking about.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 Drone strikes.

00:50:29.000 Exactly.

00:50:30.000 I mean, you can kind of... Drone strike in a city?

00:50:32.000 I wouldn't put it past him.

00:50:33.000 Imagine what would happen, and this is a point James Lindsay makes, that the reaction is the goal.

00:50:40.000 Either they're trying to force you to allow perverts to groom your children,

00:50:45.000 or they get you to react and claim you're hateful bigots and they use it as justification.

00:50:50.000 Imagine the inverse.

00:50:52.000 Imagine a group of right-wing conservative types who are peacefully occupying land that is controlled by the federal

00:51:00.000 government.

00:51:01.000 The Bundys, for instance.

00:51:02.000 Remember all that?

00:51:03.000 Yeah, he's actually scheduled to go back to jail, I think, on Thursday or something.

00:51:06.000 Go back to jail?

00:51:08.000 Let me confirm that, but I read that.

00:51:09.000 And I don't want to conflate it necessarily, that was a different circumstance, but imagine there's swaths of federal land that are completely, you know, unused, but it's federal land, and a group of guys are just like, we're going to start utilizing this, we don't recognize the authority of the government, what's the government going to do?

00:51:23.000 Imagine they show up and drone strike, as Ian suggests.

00:51:27.000 That reaction will result in more people having their confidence shattered in government.

00:51:31.000 Ammon Bundy was arrested three days ago.

00:51:33.000 For what?

00:51:34.000 Defamation.

00:51:36.000 What?

00:51:36.000 And he was released yesterday.

00:51:37.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:51:38.000 Arrested for defamation?

00:51:40.000 That's a civil tort.

00:51:41.000 That's not a criminal act.

00:51:42.000 Arrest warrant since mid-April after an Ada County, Idaho judge found him in contempt of court for refusing to show up to legal proceedings.

00:51:48.000 Interesting.

00:51:48.000 For nearly a year.

00:51:49.000 So he just got let out yesterday.

00:51:51.000 Can't move property or large cash sums for two weeks.

00:51:55.000 Eventually, you're just going to have a community.

00:51:57.000 I mean, you look at, uh, Rich Men North of Richmond, the viral power of the song, 10 million views in a couple days.

00:52:02.000 Wow.

00:52:03.000 Confidence shattered in government is what leads to civil war.

00:52:08.000 Not a group of people who are organized and then sign a document and say, we hereby declare.

00:52:13.000 It's when random people just say, you're illegitimate, get off my property.

00:52:18.000 I'll put it this way.

00:52:19.000 If a guy showed up to your house, Let's say you got an acre in a suburban area or a rural area.

00:52:24.000 And one day, a guy being carried in one- What are those things called where it's got the sticks and the guys carry it and the guy sits in the middle?

00:52:30.000 I don't know.

00:52:31.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 Let's say they're- Oh, like a throne?

00:52:33.000 Yeah.

00:52:33.000 It's not a throne.

00:52:34.000 It's called something else.

00:52:35.000 I don't know the word.

00:52:36.000 They're carrying him.

00:52:36.000 Egyptian stuff.

00:52:37.000 He says, put me down, put me down.

00:52:39.000 They put him down.

00:52:40.000 He walks onto your property and says, you will now tithe.

00:52:43.000 You will pay me 20% for I am your king.

00:52:47.000 What?

00:52:49.000 What are you talking about?

00:52:50.000 No, you're not.

00:52:51.000 What if a guy walked onto your property, flashed a badge and said that he was the neo-lord declared of the current region or whatever?

00:53:04.000 You'd be like, wait, what?

00:53:06.000 What's this badge?

00:53:07.000 That would be a little bit confusing.

00:53:09.000 Most people don't know what a comptroller is.

00:53:11.000 So if someone shows up with a badge and says they're in charge, a lot of people right now are just like, okay.

00:53:17.000 We still do have in the United States people being like, look, I don't know who you are, show me a warrant, but a lot of people just submit.

00:53:22.000 The point comes when there will be a legitimate law enforcement officer from an agency no one's heard of or doesn't care about, or even from, let's say, like the FBI, and people just don't respect them because they feel.

00:53:35.000 When the FBI goes after Donald Trump in this way, and they see on news that it appears to be completely political and illegitimate, they say, these people aren't actually enforcing the law anymore.

00:53:46.000 The only reason why you'd agree to do anything they say is out of fear of death.

00:53:51.000 Well, there's a lot of people that don't.

00:53:53.000 And that's terrifying.

00:53:55.000 They don't fear death.

00:53:56.000 So what happens when there's a morbidly obese 70-year-old guy who's posting online that he's going to take action against the government in very serious ways that people should not do?

00:54:06.000 Then they show up to his house.

00:54:08.000 What does he do?

00:54:09.000 The latest report on that guy out of Provo, Utah was that he had a loaded .357 Magnum pointed at the federal officers.

00:54:14.000 That's the kind of stuff that I'm talking about.

00:54:16.000 Now, I want to make sure I'm clear on this.

00:54:18.000 There is a path to victory that Is through the legal system is by electing Donald Trump.

00:54:25.000 They can't.

00:54:27.000 They're not guaranteed victory.

00:54:28.000 This is why they're indicting his lawyers.

00:54:32.000 They want a reaction.

00:54:33.000 They want people to get violent.

00:54:35.000 They are desperate for it because people are shifting towards Trump.

00:54:39.000 Trump is winning in the polls in many states.

00:54:42.000 Like I said, over the past year or so, people went from being passively anti-Trump to passively anti-Democrat, anti-establishment.

00:54:48.000 I'm not saying they're voting for Trump.

00:54:50.000 I'm saying that they're losing confidence and they are desperate to maintain it. 0.98

00:54:54.000 One of the only ways they get it is if Trump supporters go nuts.

00:54:58.000 So they're hoping that by going after Trump, they get that.

00:55:01.000 You said an interesting thing, Anton, that they're not anti-Democrat, they're anti-establishment.

00:55:05.000 And the establishment used to be Republican in 2006.

00:55:08.000 It was George Bush's establishment, a warmongering party.

00:55:11.000 For whatever reason, these business bureaucrats behind the scenes now snagged onto the Democratic Party. 0.99

00:55:16.000 Superdelegates make it nice because they can just pick their candidate no matter who gets voted what. 0.62

00:55:20.000 And people are tired of it.

00:55:22.000 We're having a global revolution right now of artificial intelligence, of conscious, just the way people think since the Internet's been developed, the way people interface with each other, and we need a government to catch up to that.

00:55:34.000 Mike Cernovich made a really important point.

00:55:36.000 He said, did you know that the Republicans currently have a comparable majority to what Nancy Pelosi had when she was targeting Trump with all of these proceedings?

00:55:47.000 The Republicans just have to have the nuts to do something.

00:55:51.000 Republicans have balls of steel.

00:55:53.000 Don't you understand? 1.00

00:55:54.000 Kevin McCarthy has iron-clad testicles. 1.00

00:55:57.000 People just don't understand. 1.00

00:55:58.000 He's not on your side. 0.99

00:55:59.000 He is standing in front of your face with a shit-eating grin, smiling, saying, I'm here for you, while holding his hand behind his back with his fingers crossed. 0.99

00:56:08.000 It takes balls to look into the eyes of an American citizen and say, I'm working for you, but knowing deep down inside you are lying, desperately trying to protect the uniparty establishment. 0.99

00:56:19.000 Yeah, I look, I think also there's a shift to when you start to see what's going on in 0.84

00:56:26.000 Hawaii right now and the negligence of Joe Biden and how they're responding to, you know,

00:56:36.000 the effort to get them supplies and money and like the local government.

00:56:39.000 Like I think that things that Joe Biden is also dropping the ball on is another push

00:56:46.000 for people to be like, yeah, I, I'm just done with this guy.

00:56:49.000 Like Trump comes out with, you know, a statement yesterday and does what like three minute

00:56:56.000 video or something about Hawaii.

00:56:58.000 And people are like, why didn't Biden do this?

00:57:01.000 And this guy's not even the president right now.

00:57:02.000 I don't know what the federal response has been exactly.

00:57:05.000 I would like to know.

00:57:06.000 But I feel like this is like a call up the Navy.

00:57:08.000 Strategy where you like mobilize the Navy to protect and preserve that area of the United States because not only are people suffering 1,300 people still haven't been found 70 people have been declared dead or something like that The entire city of Lahaina has been burned to the ground for the most part.

00:57:22.000 Not only that it's a national defense Vulnerability to have a broken area of your country that's not functioning.

00:57:28.000 It's an easy target.

00:57:30.000 So they need to protect it While your president is on the beach He's on vacation.

00:57:37.000 It's almost like they're doing everything in their power.

00:57:39.000 One of the things we talked about a few years ago is that they want civil war so they can abolish the Constitution.

00:57:43.000 Because that's the only way to do it.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:46.000 And there's also a push to... I know that people are pretty aware that the definitions of words have been shifting considerably the past, you know, 5-10 years.

00:57:57.000 People have noticed that.

00:57:59.000 Things don't mean what they used to mean, or whatever.

00:58:02.000 And there's a tactic in that, too.

00:58:03.000 If you can shift the meanings of the words that are in the Constitution... And the law changes.

00:58:08.000 Then you can change the meaning of the law.

00:58:10.000 If you can get gender... Like woman! 1.00

00:58:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:58:14.000 So the thing that was pointed out, I heard James Lindsay talking about this, but it was the land dedications that you hear.

00:58:21.000 If you can convince people that they're on stolen land, Then they don't own that property because it's illegitimately attained.

00:58:29.000 And that means you're not protected.

00:58:31.000 None of your rights are protected if you're on stolen property.

00:58:33.000 That means you have no right to that property anymore.

00:58:36.000 And so now, I'm not saying that that's exactly what's going on, that that's the intent behind it, but that could be a very happy side effect that people could use to go after people's property.

00:58:46.000 You guys remember John Titor?

00:58:49.000 We talked about it briefly.

00:58:51.000 Tell me.

00:58:51.000 It was back in the 2000s.

00:58:53.000 This guy claiming to be from the future.

00:58:54.000 Yes.

00:58:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:55.000 Yeah.

00:58:55.000 It was a website and it was, you know, silly nonsense.

00:58:58.000 But one of the things he said was that the country would fracture into four different regions controlled by four different powers. 0.58

00:59:04.000 Europe would control a faction.

00:59:05.000 China would control a faction.

00:59:06.000 Mexico and Canada would split a faction.

00:59:08.000 It seems to be silly nonsense, but I bring it up because I don't think a revolution is possible in the United States because the country is much too big.

00:59:18.000 That's just it.

00:59:21.000 You look at what's going on with the Biden DOJ ignoring Lahaina, with his son and the corruption, with the DOJ going after Donald Trump.

00:59:32.000 You're not going to get every state in this country just to be like, well, that's legitimate.

00:59:38.000 After 2024, here's my concern.

00:59:42.000 There's not going to be a definitive winner.

00:59:46.000 I think 1876 was the year where they were like, who do we count?

00:59:50.000 And it'll be akin to this.

00:59:51.000 Why?

00:59:52.000 Let me ask you guys.

00:59:54.000 Why should I assume the 2024 election will be handled better than 2020?

00:59:59.000 I think it'll be worse.

01:00:01.000 Any reason?

01:00:01.000 I would encourage you to not assume anything in that regard.

01:00:05.000 I feel like the fact that there's not all of the issues with COVID might be a reason.

01:00:10.000 Well, they're trying to do that again, though.

01:00:12.000 We'll see.

01:00:15.000 Donald Trump makes a bunch of claims.

01:00:17.000 There's ballot fraud, etc., etc.

01:00:19.000 Why would I assume the Trump supporters would say less?

01:00:25.000 I can't just... No, the assumption is clear.

01:00:28.000 There's no off-ramp, as you said earlier, Phil.

01:00:30.000 The likelihood is that in 2024, you are going to have...

01:00:35.000 Insane disputes over who are the official electors because Trump supporters feeling slighted from 2020 are going to be out in force with, and I'm talking about lawyers, documents filed pre, during, after.

01:00:48.000 And then you're going to have legal challenges to a certified slate of electors.

01:00:51.000 There's going to be 300 legal challenges in the courts that aren't going to be resolved in time.

01:00:55.000 And they're going to go, how do we count something that's currently in legal dispute?

01:00:59.000 The judges would have to just throw all of the lawsuits off the docket, which they can't just do.

01:01:04.000 My assumption is 2024 will be bedlam.

01:01:08.000 I don't see Democrats and Republicans just being like, well, you know, let me know what you think with the ballots and then we'll see who the president is.

01:01:14.000 You're going to have Mark Elias.

01:01:15.000 You're going to have the NCLU.

01:01:17.000 You're going to have various factions on left and right lodging lawsuit after lawsuit in various jurisdictions before, during, and after the election.

01:01:24.000 And then what's going to happen is various different news sources that are at odds with each other will report various different things.

01:01:30.000 And you'll have people in some areas being like, I'm hearing the Democrats won, but the Republicans have electors too.

01:01:36.000 The state legislators certified the Republicans, but the media said the Democrats won.

01:01:41.000 What's going on?

01:01:43.000 Now, look, don't get me wrong.

01:01:44.000 I mean, maybe nothing happens.

01:01:45.000 I don't know.

01:01:45.000 Well, you said earlier that you thought it would be impossible for a revolution to occur in the United States, and I guess I gotta define... No, no, no, hold on.

01:01:51.000 What I'm saying is... Challenging because of the size?

01:01:53.000 If D.C.

01:01:54.000 was taken over by an occupying force in a military coup, Texas doesn't go along with that.

01:01:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:01:59.000 There's no point where the entire country just says, Revolution!

01:02:02.000 Now we're under the rule of When I say revolution, I'm not always talking about a change in government from a democracy or from a republic to a communist state.

01:02:12.000 I'm not talking about necessarily like that.

01:02:15.000 Revolution is like a change.

01:02:16.000 It means to turn forward.

01:02:17.000 So like a change of the mind.

01:02:19.000 I know this is like a Maoist tactic.

01:02:20.000 We're going to change the minds of the people.

01:02:23.000 But I do think that can be done for good as well.

01:02:26.000 And it can happen quickly with the internet.

01:02:28.000 I have such a problem with that kind of like changing minds because that's trying to manufacture consent or trying to get everybody on the same page.

01:02:39.000 The ability that humans have to influence people is only either coercion or it's just through argumentation.

01:02:52.000 Convincing someone or forcing them.

01:02:53.000 But what about when you perform?

01:02:55.000 I saw you singing in front of like 10,000 people or something.

01:02:57.000 It changed them.

01:02:58.000 Yeah, but there's no guarantee.

01:03:01.000 You can entertain people Entertaining people and convincing people to believe in your philosophy is totally different.

01:03:12.000 And the idea that you could get someone just on a stage to use charisma to convince people, that's a bad thing too. 0.90

01:03:21.000 Because Hitler was super charismatic, but he was also a genocidal maniac. 0.59

01:03:26.000 So you can't just say, oh, this person makes me feel good.

01:03:30.000 Like I was saying earlier today, My philosophy is fundamentally an Enlightenment philosophy because I believe that we can interact with reality, we can see reality, and we can test things, and we can reason proper results.

01:03:45.000 And if we just go by feeling and just by saying, oh, this guy really moves me, Then you get you end up with Barack Obama.

01:03:52.000 Everybody that voted for Barack Obama for voted for hope and change.

01:03:55.000 They were voting with their heart.

01:03:56.000 They were voting.

01:03:58.000 I believe in Barack Obama.

01:03:59.000 I believe in people.

01:04:00.000 I believe in hope and change because I am hopeful and we can change things for the better.

01:04:05.000 Nobody agreed on what change was.

01:04:08.000 Nobody did.

01:04:08.000 But everybody felt real good about it.

01:04:11.000 So we were coerced.

01:04:13.000 I don't know.

01:04:15.000 Some people could say we were coerced, but it was great.

01:04:18.000 He's cool.

01:04:18.000 He's a cool talker.

01:04:19.000 He's a good talker.

01:04:20.000 He's cool.

01:04:20.000 He smokes cigarettes outside the White House.

01:04:23.000 This guy is awesome.

01:04:23.000 I could party with him.

01:04:24.000 I totally want change.

01:04:25.000 I'm going to vote for him.

01:04:26.000 Yes, I mean, that is true.

01:04:28.000 The votes for Barack Obama were very much votes for his charisma and stuff like that.

01:04:33.000 And, you know, there were a lot of things that changed from when he was running to when he was in office and stuff.

01:04:39.000 So, you know, I mean, that that is true.

01:04:41.000 But you still like we need to have people that we need to be able to reason.

01:04:45.000 Not just get wrapped up in, we feel this way, and we want to have this kind of emotional reaction, and try to connect with people, and convince them, and get everybody fired up.

01:04:55.000 I mean, you do want people that are motivated, that agree with you, but you want people that have reasoned their way to their decisions, not responded emotionally, you know?

01:05:05.000 I think, and I should say, that if someone could stand up on a stage, fully charismatic, get everyone's hearts aligned, and then provide them a blueprint of strategy, technically, of how to solve the system, and put it out of their hands, they've galvanized the populace to focus on an idea that's outside of the person.

01:05:24.000 I think everybody's tired.

01:05:25.000 I think Americans are tired.

01:05:27.000 They're tired of being lied to by both sides.

01:05:28.000 It's like a full body, you know, people start working out, they start eating healthier, they start having kids.

01:05:34.000 It's a cultural thing.

01:05:34.000 I think everybody's tired.

01:05:36.000 I think Americans are tired.

01:05:38.000 They're tired of being lied to by both sides.

01:05:41.000 They're tired of being constantly gaslighted.

01:05:45.000 They're tired of being promised things.

01:05:48.000 Tired of being locked up in their houses and lied to.

01:05:51.000 Coerced into doing things that they don't want.

01:05:53.000 I think they're tired.

01:05:54.000 And there's no way to go back to like, how can we get everybody on the same page?

01:05:59.000 Unity!

01:06:00.000 You're never going to get that anymore.

01:06:02.000 Because of the fatigue?

01:06:04.000 They're just disgusted.

01:06:05.000 There's a war weariness, I know.

01:06:07.000 I've sensed it for a decade.

01:06:08.000 Just the pain, the pain conscious.

01:06:10.000 There's the dietary weariness that comes from overeating or eating crappy food that knocks your body out. 0.98

01:06:14.000 It's hard to wake up in the morning, that fog, too much carbs, all that crap. 0.98

01:06:18.000 There's that. 0.97

01:06:19.000 Fasting is a holy tenant.

01:06:20.000 I mean, we could... I mean, we can go on and on about that, but I mean, Joe Biden, people are tired by Joe Biden, too.

01:06:29.000 Let's jump to the next story.

01:06:30.000 I want to start by showing you this image.

01:06:32.000 I hope you all enjoy this picture.

01:06:34.000 We'll have to open image in a new tab and then we'll have to shrink it so you can actually see it.

01:06:40.000 Wow, this is... there you go!

01:06:42.000 It's very tiny on the screen because you can't actually scroll around or whatever.

01:06:48.000 But, uh, there you go.

01:06:49.000 It's, uh, it's Donald Trump, and it says revenge on it.

01:06:53.000 Breaking Trump to appoint special counsel to investigate Biden family corruption if re-elected.

01:06:57.000 This is the reason people want to vote for Donald Trump.

01:07:01.000 You want revenge?

01:07:02.000 I'll vote Trump.

01:07:03.000 I'd like revenge.

01:07:04.000 What do you guys think?

01:07:06.000 I would like justice, and if that means forgiveness and compassion along with it, mercy, apparently.

01:07:11.000 What is that?

01:07:12.000 Depends on if it's Greek or Latin, right?

01:07:13.000 Yeah, I go with the Greeks on these. 0.94

01:07:16.000 Yeah, let me tell you a story, Ian.

01:07:19.000 Donald Trump said that he would criminally indict Hillary Clinton, that he would go after her, she'd be in jail.

01:07:24.000 And then, what was it, two days after he got elected?

01:07:26.000 He's like, no, no, we're not gonna do that, it's okay. 0.70

01:07:29.000 Donald Trump should have gone after all of these people with criminal charges because they're corrupt, evil individuals.

01:07:35.000 And he didn't!

01:07:36.000 Because he said, we're gonna forgive!

01:07:38.000 We're gonna be like you, Ian!

01:07:40.000 We're gonna forgive everybody!

01:07:42.000 And now they're arresting his lawyers.

01:07:43.000 I wish he'd said that.

01:07:44.000 He never really talked about forgiveness. 0.94

01:07:45.000 He still talked crap about Hillary while he was president.

01:07:48.000 No, my point is, he didn't prosecute. 0.95

01:07:50.000 He didn't direct his DOJ to prosecute.

01:07:51.000 Yeah, but he didn't, like, make good. 0.97

01:07:53.000 Well, Hillary talked crap about him through her... I mean, they all do it. 1.00

01:07:58.000 And then he didn't go after her.

01:08:00.000 Yeah.

01:08:01.000 And he should have.

01:08:01.000 Because he said you would be in jail and she wasn't.

01:08:05.000 And she also denied the election too.

01:08:08.000 To an extreme degree!

01:08:11.000 Was it her campaign or the DNC that funded the SEAL dossier?

01:08:14.000 It was her campaign.

01:08:15.000 Her campaign.

01:08:16.000 Creating the lie that Donald Trump was a Russian spy.

01:08:20.000 Yeah.

01:08:21.000 Stacey Abrams!

01:08:22.000 How come she's not in jail?

01:08:24.000 Right, exactly.

01:08:24.000 I love that.

01:08:25.000 Brian Kemp is like, for the past three years, no one has brought any evidence of voter fraud, and I'm like, you mean past five years?

01:08:30.000 Right.

01:08:31.000 Because, like, you're excluding Stacey Abrams? 0.98

01:08:33.000 What I actually said was, yeah, but you stole the election from Stacey Abrams, you Russian Nazi... 1.00

01:08:39.000 Well, you're allowed to question elections in the United States. 0.91

01:08:42.000 Not anymore!

01:08:44.000 No, you're not!

01:08:45.000 He's getting prosecuted for doing just that.

01:08:47.000 I mean, that might be one of the things, but it's the Jan 6th.

01:08:50.000 That's literally it.

01:08:51.000 Georgia is not going after him over January 6th.

01:08:53.000 They're not going after his lawyers for January 6th.

01:08:55.000 That's why this whole charade began.

01:08:58.000 No, no, Georgia is going after- none of the charges relate to January 6th in Georgia.

01:09:02.000 Georgia has no jurisdiction there.

01:09:03.000 They're charging Trump and his lawyers for reaching out to state legislature.

01:09:08.000 One of the acts is that they reached out- lawyers reached out to the legislature and said, you guys should vote on this and choose who you think should actually win based on the discrepancies.

01:09:18.000 They said, that's solicitation of a violation of oath of office.

01:09:22.000 Not January 6th.

01:09:23.000 They're saying because Donald Trump had lawyers go and make the legal argument that they should take the constitutional path of upholding their absolute legislative power to determine who gets the electors, they said that's a violation of both offices.

01:09:37.000 Did Stacey Abrams do that? 1.00

01:09:38.000 Did Hillary have lawyers go talk to electors? 1.00

01:09:40.000 I don't know.

01:09:42.000 So the Democrats had alternate electors and faithless electors.

01:09:45.000 You're also just now you're just arguing to degrees not whether or not I'm arguing that you're allowed to question elections the United States.

01:09:51.000 Again, we're the point is that's why Trump is not allowed to because Trump is being prosecuted and Stacey Abrams has done this and Hillary Clinton is already so are you it's the way it's the way Trump.

01:10:02.000 There are ways that can get you thrown in jail of questioning the election, yes.

01:10:07.000 Yes, and Jenna Ellis, one of the indicted co-conspirators, was only charged on counts one and two, which is, I think, violating the oath of public office, and RICO.

01:10:15.000 They're literally saying because she worked for Trump, she's guilty of conspiracy.

01:10:20.000 That's it.

01:10:22.000 That's it.

01:10:22.000 Now, other people were charged with, like, solicitation of the violation of oath of office, specific things.

01:10:27.000 But they're going after her, quite literally, just because she worked for Donald Trump as a lawyer.

01:10:32.000 So no, you don't get to call a lawyer, and now it looks like the federal government's going to do the same thing.

01:10:38.000 They're going to go after Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell and a bunch of these people.

01:10:41.000 If you guys go out and tell everyone you can't question elections in the United States anymore, you turned us into a totalitarian state.

01:10:46.000 We did?

01:10:47.000 That's exactly what we're kind of saying.

01:10:49.000 You gotta keep the faith.

01:10:50.000 We did?

01:10:51.000 No, I'm saying if you go out and start telling people you can't do this anymore, you become a hand of the state.

01:10:55.000 You don't want to become that guy that's black-pilled and tells everyone it's over. 0.98

01:10:58.000 You can question elections in the United States.

01:11:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:01.000 There are legal ways to do that.

01:11:02.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:11:03.000 No, go ahead.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, no, what you're saying is, is like, we can't run around and tell people that you

01:11:09.000 can't question the elections, right?

01:11:11.000 Right.

01:11:12.000 You can do that, but you will be- Well, no, okay, of course.

01:11:14.000 You can question the election, and then if you take any actions in furtherance of your

01:11:17.000 questions, you'll be criminally charged.

01:11:19.000 Sure.

01:11:20.000 It depends on how, but possibly.

01:11:22.000 Well, like, you could literally just be the lawyer for Donald Trump and they'll charge you with conspiracy.

01:11:25.000 Yeah, but I think my theory, or my hypothesis, if he hadn't told people to go to the Capitol on Jan 6th, none of this would be happening right now.

01:11:31.000 And peacefully protest?

01:11:33.000 That's the first amendment.

01:11:34.000 But that's, it's literally, many other groups and organizations did that worse.

01:11:40.000 Like, I'm not saying it was right, but I'm also saying there's other organizations and groups that did that also At the Capitol, like they burnt down a church.

01:11:52.000 Or they tried to burn a church.

01:11:53.000 Or they tried to burn down a church.

01:11:54.000 They set fire to it.

01:11:55.000 Where's the RICO charges for any of these guys?

01:11:57.000 They were all let off.

01:11:57.000 That was organized and planned.

01:11:58.000 They were all let off of all charges.

01:12:00.000 We still have guys that are still in jail from January 6th that were at the, just to say, the hot dog cart across the street.

01:12:08.000 I mean, come on.

01:12:10.000 There's got to be a point where everybody on both sides is like, all right, this is nuts.

01:12:15.000 Right?

01:12:16.000 Or not?

01:12:16.000 No.

01:12:16.000 I think so.

01:12:17.000 No.

01:12:17.000 I hope so.

01:12:18.000 There is not.

01:12:19.000 I mean, that's why I'm into pardons.

01:12:21.000 I think of it as if you don't care, if you really don't find some kind of spiritual fulfillment in finding your enemies forgiven, if you don't get that, then think of it as a hostage negotiation.

01:12:32.000 And you want those Jan 6 prisoners out, so you pardon them, and then you want Hunter Biden pardoned as the hostage exchange.

01:12:36.000 Prisoner exchange.

01:12:37.000 Yeah.

01:12:37.000 Think of it as a prisoner exchange.

01:12:39.000 That's why you issue mass pardons.

01:12:41.000 And maybe society will freak out.

01:12:42.000 Maybe it won't.

01:12:43.000 Maybe it has to come from the top.

01:12:44.000 Maybe it has to come from the people first. 1.00

01:12:45.000 I don't know.

01:12:46.000 I kind of think of it more like there's a guy running around setting fires, and Ian is like, if you please promise not to do it again, we won't put you in jail.

01:12:46.000 But it can happen.

01:12:55.000 It's like, well, I don't know about that.

01:12:57.000 Yeah, it's like saying, I'm not gonna put you in jail for all those fires you started.

01:13:01.000 If you do it again, you're done.

01:13:03.000 But we're moving forward.

01:13:05.000 Let's not anyone light any more of those.

01:13:07.000 That's kind of the mentality.

01:13:11.000 With the hope that they won't.

01:13:13.000 And then what happens when they do?

01:13:16.000 Well, that's a loaded question.

01:13:17.000 If they do, then you have to put them in prison.

01:13:21.000 You can't just keep... Yeah, we can't keep playing the game.

01:13:25.000 Got it.

01:13:26.000 I don't know.

01:13:27.000 It's wild to me.

01:13:28.000 That's all.

01:13:29.000 Well, what's the next step?

01:13:31.000 I mean, we've got a couple months away.

01:13:33.000 A couple.

01:13:34.000 We've got maybe... I don't know.

01:13:37.000 Seven months until we start going to the primaries?

01:13:40.000 I think we gotta record a million to one.

01:13:41.000 Because we need to become a cultural center.

01:13:44.000 That's a song.

01:13:46.000 We need people loving us.

01:13:46.000 It's a song I wrote that Ian really likes.

01:13:48.000 It's the best song.

01:13:49.000 It's your best song that I've had so far.

01:13:51.000 And it's just the beginning.

01:13:52.000 So full disclosure, I just started following your music.

01:13:55.000 Oh.

01:13:56.000 Thank you.

01:13:56.000 Love it.

01:13:57.000 I agree.

01:13:58.000 It's great.

01:13:59.000 I don't believe it's that important.

01:14:00.000 I believe building culture is important because laws are only enforced on cultural grounds.

01:14:05.000 Confidence is everything.

01:14:06.000 If people didn't have confidence in the dollar, nobody would take the dollar, which is why the U.S. 0.98

01:14:10.000 gives dollars to countries all over the world for garbage nonsense.

01:14:13.000 And that's why I say that voting Republican is good, because you need actions within the government to alter policy and things like that. 0.88

01:14:22.000 But for the most part, what's going to change this is building culture.

01:14:25.000 Yeah.

01:14:25.000 Rich men north of Richmond.

01:14:28.000 The corporate press is attacking it.

01:14:29.000 There's a far right wing... Yeah, he's great.

01:14:33.000 Industry plant, fake, blah, blah, blah.

01:14:36.000 He's the most genuine guy.

01:14:38.000 It's just a video of a guy singing.

01:14:41.000 That's the best thing for it, though.

01:14:43.000 But who cares if it's an industry?

01:14:45.000 Maybe this guy got signed a long time ago and they said, we're going to put up a music video and ask people to promote it.

01:14:48.000 I'm like, okay, it's a good song.

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 Have a nice day.

01:14:51.000 The people that are attacking it, are the best thing for its credibility.

01:14:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:56.000 Because the people that are attacking it are doing exactly what he says they're doing.

01:15:03.000 It's the, it's the champagne social, the idea of the champagne socialist, the rich urban people, and those are the people that, while they talk a good game about the working man, when a working man, you know, or an ostensibly not wealthy, not cosmopolitan person, is sitting there singing a song about the struggles that they're noticing in their lives.

01:15:28.000 All they do is dump all over him, call him all kinds of names.

01:15:32.000 And it really, he really, the lyrics really do tap into things that are on a lot of people's minds.

01:15:38.000 But the people on the left, I mean, they feel like it's attacking them.

01:15:43.000 And they're the ones that are making it about them because it doesn't specify.

01:15:48.000 The left or aside.

01:15:48.000 Aside.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, obviously there's a whole lot of insecurity when it comes to the line about Epstein Island and stuff, but it's not particularly right-leaning in policy, but it is culturally right, and that's why Cultural leftists really hate it, and I enjoy reading the people that hate on it, because it's exactly what you'd expect.

01:16:17.000 Well, because it's the people that you say something about, but you didn't mention them by name, but they're guilty, so they're like, are you talking about me?

01:16:25.000 Yeah, they feel quite guilty.

01:16:27.000 Yeah, totally about you.

01:16:31.000 I'm a big fan.

01:16:32.000 I thought the song was very simple, if you haven't heard it yet.

01:16:36.000 North of Richmond, it's verse-chorus-verse-chorus, pretty basic, but the guy's performance is out of control.

01:16:40.000 We need that.

01:16:41.000 We need heart-shattering sound to shake people out of this morose.

01:16:48.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, it speaks to the mistrust of the establishment by the average person, you know? 0.95

01:17:00.000 And I think that the fact that it resonated with so many people and went viral so fast, and so viral so fast, I think that that's something that really Has worried the establishment and you have Rolling Stone Crapping on a protest crap on everybody.

01:17:18.000 Well, I mean they didn't always a protest song That's supposed to be something that Rolling Stone would get behind, you know It's protesting against the government and and like, you know in the 60s that would have been or the 70s That's what that would have been right up Rolling Stones alley.

01:17:31.000 They'd have been right there in Cheering them on, but they weren't because they're the establishment.

01:17:37.000 Right.

01:17:37.000 They're the propaganda arm.

01:17:38.000 Let's jump to this unrelated story, but interesting nonetheless.

01:17:42.000 Minnesota town's entire police force resigns, leaving chief with zero prospects.

01:17:48.000 Goodhue, Minnesota, a small town in the southeastern part of the state, lost its entire police force after the chief and other members of the force handed in their resignations.

01:17:56.000 I think we're a little bit blindsided by it, but we're resilient.

01:17:59.000 We're going to move forward.

01:18:00.000 This has been three weeks now.

01:18:02.000 We have zero applicants, zero prospects.

01:18:04.000 I've called every PD around for the youngest guys out there getting in the game.

01:18:08.000 Nobody's getting in the game.

01:18:10.000 If you want to keep the PD, and this is something we want to keep going with, something needs to change dramatically and drastically, and it's got to happen now.

01:18:16.000 One Goodhue City Council member praised the police force for maintaining law and order in the town of Goodhue.

01:18:22.000 I can probably speak for everyone when I say that they provided excellent safety and security to our community, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:27.000 And, uh, nobody wants to be a cop.

01:18:29.000 So when I talk about what comes next, confidence, people believing in federal government, yeah, at least in this small town, and it's not the only place we're seeing things like this, this is just the most extreme example, the entire police force resigning.

01:18:43.000 We've seen similar things before of mass resignations from various police departments.

01:18:47.000 What happens to a town when they have no cops?

01:18:50.000 Well, we could already see what's happening to LA and New York when the law says you can't arrest these people, when people aren't allowed to defend themselves or their property.

01:18:57.000 But what happens when there's no cops?

01:19:00.000 It's not what people think.

01:19:01.000 People assume if there's no police officers, then you're going to have rampant crime.

01:19:05.000 Actually, I think in small towns, it'll be the inverse.

01:19:07.000 You know why?

01:19:08.000 Because if there's no cops to arrest a criminal at all, the criminals already aren't getting arrested.

01:19:13.000 That means there's no one to arrest the person for defending themselves.

01:19:16.000 Which means in small towns with zero police, people will start arming up, and then if someone comes in to rob their store, they get shot.

01:19:25.000 Then this person says, there's no government, I don't abide by any of that, I don't know what they're talking about, they abandoned us a long time ago, and this leads to social breakdown and decay.

01:19:35.000 But maybe, it ultimately leads to more community building, because if there's no cops, people have to go talk to their neighbors to figure out how they're protecting each other.

01:19:41.000 Yeah, I think becoming a cop through necessity kind of is more noble than doing it for a paycheck.

01:19:48.000 Doing it because we truly need protection and then calling the greatest among us to protect is like, that's a calling.

01:19:56.000 It's important to note the population of this city, it is a city, is only 1,176.

01:20:01.000 Did you see how many cops resigned?

01:20:04.000 Was it like five?

01:20:05.000 It was probably five.

01:20:07.000 You know, the entire police force is like five.

01:20:10.000 But I mean, you know, they still resign.

01:20:12.000 What are they resigning for?

01:20:13.000 I don't think it says.

01:20:16.000 So how do you feel about the law that's being passed in Chicago or Illinois where illegal immigrants can actually become police officers now?

01:20:28.000 At first I've heard of it.

01:20:29.000 There's nothing wrong with illegal immigrants.

01:20:34.000 Low pay and competition from larger cities was a big component.

01:20:38.000 So they're getting jobs in other cities, they're getting paid more going to bigger cities.

01:20:42.000 I mean, that makes sense.

01:20:43.000 What's this law you mentioned in Chicago?

01:20:45.000 Do you know what the name of it is or anything?

01:20:46.000 In Illinois, it's being passed here shortly.

01:20:49.000 I think it's November.

01:20:51.000 If you are an illegal immigrant, you can also be a police officer.

01:20:57.000 Oh, yes, that's right.

01:20:59.000 That's J.B.

01:20:59.000 Pritzker's new law.

01:21:02.000 Non-citizen law enforcement.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:06.000 So should we fill Minnesota's town with five illegal immigrants?

01:21:11.000 Not all at once, if you can help it.

01:21:13.000 Maybe introduce one at a time and let it get socialized.

01:21:16.000 I think that people should be in the United States illegally before they start working for the United States government. 0.84

01:21:23.000 I feel like that's a good idea.

01:21:24.000 Yeah, I mean, could you go to any country in the world and just become a police officer tomorrow?

01:21:28.000 I'm confident that's a no.

01:21:30.000 It could be a way to earn citizenship.

01:21:31.000 So why do we allow it?

01:21:32.000 No, I don't know about that either.

01:21:33.000 I don't think we should.

01:21:35.000 I honestly, like, I'm super for, like... Point being is are we this desperate, right?

01:21:40.000 Are police officers, like, leaving the police force in record numbers?

01:21:44.000 If I understand correctly?

01:21:45.000 I mean, I don't have any, you know, data on it, but, like, that's what it seems like.

01:21:51.000 This is a House Bill 3751, in case people want to look into it.

01:21:55.000 I wonder about like letting people earn ways for people to earn citizenship and if joining military a lot of like they do that you you can do that by joining the military and I think that the military is one thing but joy but just coming to the United States and joining a civilian police force I think is different yeah I've never heard up to this point that that would function but maybe it would be a good way to you can buy citizenship Yeah, one thing that people do is they'll, you don't need to be an American citizen to start a company in the United States.

01:22:22.000 So they'll start a company, then they'll hire themselves and use that as justification for coming here.

01:22:29.000 There's also economic visas where it's like if you have a certain amount of money invested, then you get to stay in the country.

01:22:35.000 I have no problem with people coming to the U.S.

01:22:37.000 that are looking to improve their situation and start a business or whatever.

01:22:43.000 It's one of the wonderful things about the United States is we've always been open to people that want to come and want to be free.

01:22:55.000 Take advantage of the fact that we are a mostly free country.

01:22:58.000 You know, the problem is when it's like, oh, you know, we're just going to have people that we're going to allow people to come in.

01:23:03.000 And then as soon as you get here, we're going to get you on to some kind of government subsidies or government program or something.

01:23:08.000 That's the bad thing.

01:23:10.000 Before American citizens. 0.98

01:23:12.000 No, just at all!

01:23:14.000 Like, if you're here illegally, you shouldn't be getting government services. 0.98

01:23:17.000 But they are getting it before American citizens.

01:23:20.000 Yeah, true, but they shouldn't be getting it at all.

01:23:23.000 I don't think that there's a before U.S.

01:23:26.000 citizens kind of thing in that.

01:23:27.000 If you're here illegally, you shouldn't be getting services. 1.00

01:23:31.000 Like unemployment and stuff like that?

01:23:32.000 Yeah, you shouldn't be getting those things you don't need.

01:23:35.000 I understand there are people like, oh, If someone's here, they're paying taxes, etc.

01:23:39.000 I get it.

01:23:40.000 That is true.

01:23:41.000 But to me, it's just not convincing.

01:23:43.000 If you're here illegally, you shouldn't get free services from the government beyond the immediate stuff that everyone else gets. 1.00

01:23:51.000 If you show up at a hospital and you need emergency care, that shouldn't mean that you get sent to the police and get sent out of the country.

01:24:01.000 If you need the police to help you, the police shouldn't automatically wrap you up like the regular beat cops.

01:24:08.000 But, you know, there's a whole lot of DHS out there and they do a whole lot of messing with your average people when they could be looking for people that have, you know, skipped their hearings for whatever they call it when they come into the country or whatever.

01:24:25.000 I wonder what percentage of illegal immigrants are actually like superheroes that Sure, we're better off having in this country. 1.00

01:24:33.000 Superheroes are not real.

01:24:34.000 Not real superhero magic, but like people that are like superhuman intelligent, like very, very top of the level humans.

01:24:41.000 They would have came here legally.

01:24:42.000 Yeah, they have a brain to come here legally.

01:24:45.000 They're probably well off.

01:24:47.000 Successful in their own country, and then they buy a private jet to fly in and get a special class visa.

01:24:47.000 In my opinion.

01:24:53.000 One of the bad things about people that come to the United States, people like that that come to the United States, if they're successful, people that are coming to the U.S.

01:25:00.000 from under, you know, people from countries that have lower economic, you know, output and stuff like that, the people that are successful, they're needed in those countries.

01:25:12.000 So if you're like a doctor in, you know, somewhere in Africa and you're a good doctor in the major city in, you know, whatever African country you're talking about, and you leave, To come to the U.S. 0.94

01:25:24.000 That's better for you.

01:25:25.000 But there's a lot of people in Africa that we're relying on you being the good doctor in town taking care of them. 0.94

01:25:33.000 So there's it's a double edged sword when you're like, oh, we're going to do we're going to accept.

01:25:38.000 We want to accept good people that can contribute to our society.

01:25:42.000 If you're taking them from third world country, which they have every reason to want to get out of there, I get it. 1.00

01:25:46.000 But if you're taking from third world countries, those people are the ones that are the most necessary to help build those countries that they're coming from. 0.52

01:25:54.000 So it's, you know, it's just a struggle idea that you, that people need to think about when it comes to immigration.

01:26:01.000 Brain drain, causing brain drain on other countries.

01:26:03.000 Yep.

01:26:04.000 Yeah, it's definitely, you could argue that it's international defense to have the best brains. 0.98

01:26:09.000 Damn be the consequences, but I get what you're saying. 0.74

01:26:11.000 We're a holistic world and we should support other nations as well. 0.98

01:26:16.000 Yeah, I mean, my grandparents came here the legal way.

01:26:18.000 I mean, they weren't doctors or anything, but they came to this country for a better life.

01:26:23.000 And back in the 1970s, and they were like, what do I got to do to be a US citizen?

01:26:29.000 What do I got to do?

01:26:31.000 Just tell me what I got to do.

01:26:32.000 And they did it.

01:26:32.000 That's it.

01:26:33.000 They were normal people.

01:26:35.000 They did it.

01:26:35.000 They became citizens.

01:26:36.000 They raised their families.

01:26:37.000 They came here.

01:26:39.000 So I'm not saying there's no good people in that bunch that are coming here illegally.

01:26:44.000 But I'm also not saying a majority of them are probably the rock stars that you're talking about.

01:26:48.000 I think that makes sense, because the super, super phenomenal humans will probably figure out how to get here legally.

01:26:54.000 Of course, because they're not going to want to go across the Rio Grande when they have all these skills.

01:26:59.000 They're going to want to be like, hey, how do I, how do I come here so I can, because I got all these skills.

01:27:03.000 And we'll be like, absolutely, like, come on over.

01:27:07.000 If you're trying to smuggle kids across the border, you're probably not the person that should be here.

01:27:12.000 And if you're one of those kids, it basically doesn't even matter if you're like a 16 year old, but you're like a super genius and you're getting smuggled across the border.

01:27:19.000 Like that's not I don't know.

01:27:21.000 Yeah, it's a tangent.

01:27:22.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 The cop thing in New York.

01:27:26.000 I feel like man.

01:27:30.000 They've already got non-citizen voting in parts of California and New York.

01:27:34.000 That's it.

01:27:36.000 Global citizen, one world government, whatever you want.

01:27:39.000 Do you think there's value to letting people earn citizenship through serving in like civil, like police and fire department?

01:27:44.000 No.

01:27:45.000 Fire department maybe, not law enforcement.

01:27:47.000 Law enforcement, I think you've got to be a citizen.

01:27:51.000 Fire department though, I can respect that and say, okay, you know, we'll put you on the fire department or something like that.

01:27:54.000 But the problem is there are people here who want to be firefighters and get paid to do it.

01:27:58.000 There's this huge wait list.

01:27:59.000 It's very difficult in big cities to get that job.

01:28:01.000 It's a good job.

01:28:03.000 I guess in situations like what we got in Minnesota where they can't hire a police force, would it be reasonable to hire?

01:28:09.000 No.

01:28:10.000 To have a non-citizen enforce the law? 0.99

01:28:13.000 That's dramatic erosion of your country, your social standards, your law.

01:28:18.000 A guy putting out fires is totally different.

01:28:21.000 Right, they're saving people.

01:28:22.000 I mean, yeah, just putting fires out.

01:28:25.000 You don't need to speak English or know American doctrine to put out a fire.

01:28:28.000 You do.

01:28:29.000 You probably should not.

01:28:30.000 You should at least speak the same language as the rest of the team.

01:28:32.000 No, you need to be able to communicate with the lieutenant or captain on scene who's instructing people on what to do to put the fire out.

01:28:39.000 Yeah, you gotta speak English.

01:28:39.000 You're also being disbashed.

01:28:40.000 Well, you just said you didn't have to.

01:28:42.000 No, you don't need to know American doctrine to put out a fire.

01:28:44.000 It's a universal language.

01:28:46.000 Get the hose. 0.99

01:28:47.000 Buckets.

01:28:48.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 I don't know.

01:28:49.000 I mean, there's, yeah, five people.

01:28:50.000 We just need five firefighters for this town. 0.99

01:28:53.000 We got this.

01:28:55.000 There you go.

01:28:55.000 We can cover this police force, just this table.

01:28:59.000 I think we see a lot of this stuff.

01:29:01.000 Cops resigning because of what happens.

01:29:03.000 I mean, it's Minnesota.

01:29:04.000 I wouldn't be surprised if a component of this, people are resigning because of what happened to Tau Tau.

01:29:08.000 The cop who was simply present while George Floyd was killed, he got what, five years?

01:29:15.000 So who wants to be a cop?

01:29:16.000 Nobody.

01:29:17.000 Especially when you're, you know, I have family members that were and are cops in Chicago.

01:29:25.000 During the riots, during the BLM stuff, they got bricks thrown at their foreheads.

01:29:30.000 And they were the same cops that were playing basketball with the kids in the inner communities.

01:29:35.000 So they're like, why am I doing this anymore?

01:29:37.000 Like, I am a good cop.

01:29:39.000 I don't need bricks thrown at my head.

01:29:40.000 And then no support from our chief.

01:29:43.000 I'm out.

01:29:45.000 Bye.

01:29:45.000 You guys listening, anybody want to be a cop?

01:29:47.000 Put a 2 in the chat if you want to be a cop.

01:29:50.000 And then put a 9 if you don't want to be a cop.

01:29:53.000 Yeah, put a 9 if you're not interested.

01:29:55.000 There's gotta be an alternative number, he's like, two.

01:29:57.000 There's gotta be, like... People gotta want to be cops to be a cop.

01:30:00.000 Like, you gotta have faith in the system.

01:30:02.000 Be like, I love this city so much that I want to make it safe.

01:30:04.000 That's one of the, that's the real, like, caustic and bad thing about the ACAB sentiment.

01:30:11.000 It's not just that like, you know, you have issues with the existing cops. 0.99

01:30:16.000 If your whole community has the attitude that all cops are bastards, who wants to help? 0.99

01:30:22.000 Who wants to be a cop? 1.00

01:30:23.000 And the places that have the people that are screaming ACAB the most are places that need the cops the worst.

01:30:31.000 You know?

01:30:31.000 I mean, nobody wants to be a cop now.

01:30:34.000 Do you think that being a police officer in a community that has ACAB written graffiti on all the walls around and you can't get the community to talk to you and help you Find any, you know, solve crimes or whatever.

01:30:50.000 Do you think that any cops want to be a police officer?

01:30:53.000 I love that story from Elliot Page about some guy screaming and chasing Page into a store in West Hollywood or whatever.

01:31:02.000 Because now I'm pretty sure West Hollywood has the community safety person, advisors or whatever instead of cops.

01:31:08.000 It's like, yeah, people in like vests instead of police officers or something like that.

01:31:08.000 Oh my God.

01:31:12.000 So it's, you can make this news story where you say, I was accosted by a deranged man.

01:31:17.000 Okay, can we point out that it's the left that advocated for the removal of these police, so now you're even less safe?

01:31:22.000 Have a nice day!

01:31:23.000 Where did ACAB come from?

01:31:24.000 Do you know? 1.00

01:31:25.000 All cops are bastards. 1.00

01:31:26.000 All cops are bastards. 1.00

01:31:27.000 Was it, like, inserted, like... It's a Gen Z thing, it's just, like... No, it's not Gen Z. I don't know, I've never heard it since then. 1.00

01:31:34.000 It's been around for a long, long, long time.

01:31:35.000 Has it?

01:31:36.000 Yeah, it's a leftist mantra.

01:31:38.000 Really?

01:31:38.000 1312.

01:31:38.000 I didn't know that.

01:31:40.000 1312 is A-C-A-B, with an S. And that's where Fuck 12 comes from. 0.99

01:31:46.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:31:47.000 I mean, I've never been anti-cop, so I didn't know.

01:31:49.000 Yeah, 12 is a reference to 1312. 1.00

01:31:52.000 So they're just saying, F are bastards, but whatever. 0.99

01:31:56.000 Okay, got it. 1.00

01:31:57.000 And thank you for teaching me that.

01:31:59.000 Okay.

01:31:59.000 So that's like, I mean, my mind these days goes to like communist revolution tactic.

01:32:04.000 The Chinese have implanted this in my, in my social media. 0.99

01:32:07.000 And now people think all cops are bastards, but they're not. 0.99

01:32:09.000 It's like, but, but maybe it's more just like a self hatred thing. 0.99

01:32:11.000 Like things.

01:32:13.000 Cause I was so critical of the United States in 2007.

01:32:15.000 Cause I was watching the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and hated it so much.

01:32:19.000 And I was like, good, the U S dollar.

01:32:21.000 We don't want to be hegemonic anymore.

01:32:22.000 Stop like stopping the world police.

01:32:24.000 And now I'm like, what does that now?

01:32:25.000 I'm like realizing, what does that really mean?

01:32:27.000 Like, if we just stripped ourselves of being the authority on Earth, that there'd be another one would step forward.

01:32:31.000 So, like, maybe destroying our own home just because it's not the best, it might actually be the least worst.

01:32:38.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats!

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01:33:02.000 But now, let's read what y'all have to say.

01:33:04.000 I'm not your guy, friend.

01:33:06.000 Says we've now crossed the Rubicon into Banana Republic territory as of last night.

01:33:11.000 No, it's Communist Revolution territory, not Banana Republic territory.

01:33:15.000 Checking in on our poll from earlier, we have at least nine people down to be cops, so I'm encouraged.

01:33:20.000 Oh, wow.

01:33:20.000 That's great.

01:33:22.000 Fox Tashikata says, I'm not your friend, pal.

01:33:24.000 That was too fast.

01:33:26.000 Cheers.

01:33:26.000 Tim Kast, Crew Keeper of the Good Work.

01:33:27.000 Really do appreciate it.

01:33:29.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:33:30.000 says, Tim, I finally got the American flag beanie.

01:33:33.000 Now I must turn it upside down to represent the current political distress status of our country.

01:33:37.000 And in these three years, the political landscape has only deteriorated.

01:33:41.000 How of us, who of us, how of us have recently woke up just to realize the country has been taken over by an evil that will not, that will stop at nothing to gain power?

01:33:51.000 Yep.

01:33:53.000 Devon says, when will we get a guest appearance from the king?

01:33:56.000 Need to hear how he feels about his return to the throne.

01:33:58.000 It's long overdue.

01:33:59.000 Hail to the king.

01:34:00.000 And a rooster emoji.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, we're not going to bring him on to IRL anytime soon.

01:34:05.000 He's now in charge of Chicken City once again.

01:34:07.000 He has returned.

01:34:08.000 And it's unfortunate.

01:34:10.000 We buried Roberto Jr.

01:34:11.000 today.

01:34:11.000 Oh.

01:34:12.000 He is now buried just outside of Chicken City in a chicken grave.

01:34:16.000 Wow.

01:34:16.000 I went and paid my respects today and saw that.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:20.000 Roberto Jr.

01:34:21.000 and his sister died.

01:34:23.000 They were the first eggs we incubated from the chickens.

01:34:26.000 So weird.

01:34:27.000 Well, they were a weak bunch.

01:34:29.000 But it's weird that she died right after he died.

01:34:31.000 That's really weird.

01:34:32.000 Yeah.

01:34:33.000 Yep.

01:34:35.000 I mean, it actually makes a lot of sense.

01:34:37.000 They're brother and sister.

01:34:39.000 They were incubated at the same time in the same way.

01:34:42.000 And they were from the... The chickens had just started their adulthood, and it's their first babies, and... A weak bunch.

01:34:50.000 They're connected.

01:34:52.000 Sure.

01:34:52.000 All that.

01:34:54.000 Let's read some more Super Chats. 0.91

01:34:57.000 Paul Taskelos says, as a general rule of thumb, I evaluate the veracity of a legal document based on attention to detail.

01:35:02.000 On page 20 of the indictment, Act 2 is listed twice.

01:35:05.000 They had 2.5 years to do this and couldn't proofread it?

01:35:08.000 Not guilty.

01:35:09.000 Wow.

01:35:10.000 Amazing.

01:35:11.000 Purple says, beep, boop, bop.

01:35:13.000 Thank you for that.

01:35:16.000 Devin says, Tim, what's your last straw?

01:35:18.000 What would we need to get to in this civil war for you to leave the country or to pick up arms and fight?

01:35:26.000 I don't know.

01:35:27.000 I'd probably only be defending myself.

01:35:30.000 I think self-defense.

01:35:32.000 There's no answer to that.

01:35:33.000 Leave the country?

01:35:35.000 We're really close to the point where, throughout history, people fled their country out of fear of political persecution.

01:35:43.000 I mean, look, January 6th, outright, is an example of it.

01:35:47.000 And it's fascinating how desperate conservatives are to deny reality.

01:35:53.000 Not all of them.

01:35:55.000 Some of them.

01:35:57.000 The DOJ is arresting people who walked peacefully into a building with the doors opened by police with no warnings, no barricades, no signs.

01:36:07.000 Yes, I know, and I say it every time, there were people rioting on one side of the building.

01:36:11.000 They should be criminally charged.

01:36:12.000 Even Trump said that.

01:36:13.000 But they're raiding the homes of people because they walked onto the Capitol grounds having no idea what was going on, waving little American flags, and then they left.

01:36:24.000 Plato fled after Socrates was executed.

01:36:27.000 Plato and a bunch of Socrates' other followers were like, let's get the hell out of here because this is not good.

01:36:31.000 I think people forget too that the same thing is going on in Canada or happened in Canada with their truckers, right?

01:36:41.000 And they had the convoy.

01:36:42.000 I think they have political prisoners as well.

01:36:44.000 They do.

01:36:45.000 Do they really?

01:36:46.000 Oh yeah, pretty sure.

01:36:47.000 They shut down their bank accounts.

01:36:49.000 Yeah.

01:36:49.000 Yeah, they have nothing.

01:36:51.000 But anyway, I think it's possible for people to flee the country, sure.

01:36:54.000 But then Plato came back 20 years later and founded the Academy right outside of Athens, so, you know, nothing's temporary.

01:36:59.000 A lot of people flee, return when things calm back down.

01:37:03.000 But I hope people just understand that they indicted Trump's lawyers.

01:37:07.000 I would be surprised to hear that no one fled the country.

01:37:14.000 I don't know anybody who did.

01:37:15.000 Max Keiser.

01:37:17.000 Yeah, but that's for different reasons.

01:37:18.000 Economic.

01:37:19.000 Yeah, Max and Stacy went to El Salvador to help with the Bitcoin country.

01:37:22.000 They actually, they didn't flee, they went there to make it better there.

01:37:25.000 They enjoy that.

01:37:26.000 Well, they went there to help Bitcoin, and to embrace Bitcoin and expand upon it, and El Salvador's been doing amazing.

01:37:33.000 I guess people that are really fleeing persecution don't announce it publicly.

01:37:36.000 No.

01:37:37.000 And they don't talk about it publicly.

01:37:38.000 They just move.

01:37:38.000 They just leave.

01:37:39.000 They just leave.

01:37:40.000 But, you know, you read these stories out of World War, out of Weimar, Germany, and you read these stories about people, you know, Jewish people who live in the United States, and they're like, oh, my grandparents left before the World War II, and it's like, well, how'd they know?

01:37:52.000 And it's like, because they could see everything that was happening, and they knew what the Nazis were advocating for.

01:37:57.000 So they got out, and a lot of people didn't, and stayed.

01:38:02.000 And I read these stories of people who are denying they didn't believe it could get that bad.

01:38:07.000 They just indicted Trump's lawyers!

01:38:10.000 I know.

01:38:11.000 His lawyers!

01:38:13.000 And people are just like, oh, it's whatever.

01:38:17.000 Whatever, dude.

01:38:18.000 Read, please.

01:38:19.000 Read about any civil war.

01:38:21.000 Read about any revolution.

01:38:23.000 This is the breaking point.

01:38:25.000 Is this the kind of thing, if it's a conspiracy charge, doesn't that mean that either they're all guilty or none of them are guilty?

01:38:31.000 I would assume so.

01:38:32.000 No, not necessarily.

01:38:33.000 Because one person might argue that they were never actually privy to the conversations and that they were wrongly charged.

01:38:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:39.000 Yeah, this all seems to stem from the belief that Trump knew that what he was doing was wrong.

01:38:45.000 If they will go after your lawyers, you have no legal protections in this country.

01:38:50.000 You have no rights.

01:38:50.000 They are just going to lock you up.

01:38:52.000 Correct.

01:38:53.000 A lot of jaystickers could not get lawyers because the government is going after people.

01:38:56.000 Yeah, if the government If the government prosecutes lawyers for defending people or for giving counsel, that's violating the right to counsel, the right to a fair trial.

01:39:10.000 You can't have a fair trial if the government is intimidating lawyers from working with you.

01:39:17.000 John Adams represented the British after the revolution.

01:39:21.000 They believe everyone deserves due process.

01:39:23.000 So due process is done.

01:39:25.000 But that's literally true.

01:39:26.000 That's something like what I said earlier.

01:39:28.000 The point is to strike fear into the population.

01:39:33.000 Lawyers are going to be afraid to defend people that have the wrong political opinions.

01:39:41.000 The behavior of the government is intended to frighten people and to spread the message that if you If you have the wrong opinions and you are vocal about them, the government is going to come down on you.

01:39:57.000 And the only right opinion is what we're saying is the Biden opinion, right?

01:40:04.000 That's the only one you're allowed to have?

01:40:06.000 It's not so much the Biden opinion, but it's probably the left politically.

01:40:10.000 Biden is 80.

01:40:12.000 I don't believe he knows anything.

01:40:13.000 I believe that he's being handled.

01:40:15.000 So it's not like he's the one that's making the calls.

01:40:17.000 So other people are making the opinions, and he's saying them, and he's the mouthpiece. 0.99

01:40:22.000 But Joe Biden isn't wiping his own butt. 0.98

01:40:24.000 Never mind, actually. 0.99

01:40:26.000 You know he's sitting there like, I am wiping my own butt, Phil! 0.93

01:40:29.000 I really don't believe All right, let's read some more.

01:40:31.000 We got Infinite Soul Daddy says, can I get a shout out for my 20th anniversary?

01:40:35.000 My wife and I love the show.

01:40:37.000 Also, if you're going to talk nutrition, you need to find a legit sources.

01:40:40.000 I highly recommend Dr. Lane Norton.

01:40:43.000 Shout out for your 20th anniversary.

01:40:46.000 Happy to hear it.

01:40:47.000 Hope all is going well.

01:40:49.000 Armored Jester says, I never called you crazy, Tim.

01:40:51.000 I too am cursed with being ahead of the curve.

01:40:54.000 I could be wrong, I'm just saying.

01:40:56.000 All you have to do is say, here's the scenario in which Democrats calm down that ultimately leads to the point where Biden and Trump hug, high-five, and wave an American flag together.

01:41:07.000 I'm being somewhat silly, but just explain to me a scenario in which, following these indictments, Trump supporters say, guys, let's stop fighting.

01:41:15.000 DMT.

01:41:15.000 Yeah, I really doubt it.

01:41:17.000 Psilocybin.

01:41:18.000 MDMA therapy.

01:41:19.000 Beau Bierneson says, next Casper commercial idea, we recreate the scene from Psycho where Ian is in the shower and gets pecked to death, violent screech and all.

01:41:28.000 Wait, we were just talking about that.

01:41:30.000 Well, no, but Ian has been converted by the coffee.

01:41:34.000 So the next commercial needs to be someone else.

01:41:37.000 And the question people are asking is what would happen if he didn't drink the coffee? 0.71

01:41:40.000 So I think what we do is we have somebody Similarly, waking up to the scream, running, but they go into the kitchen, and they say, get the coffee ready, but there's no one there, and they go, crap!

01:41:52.000 Then they run in and start trying to fumble with the coffee, and they can't get it, and then Roberto shows up, and they're like, I'm brewing it, I'm brewing it!

01:41:58.000 No, no, no!

01:42:00.000 And then it shows them backing into the corner, and then you see just the silhouette of the rooster pecking, and then you see, like, a silhouette of liquid spraying in the air.

01:42:06.000 Yeah, and you can see the coffee mug in the shadow.

01:42:11.000 And then you hear the weird demonic crowing, and it'll just be like, Drink.

01:42:16.000 Casper.

01:42:16.000 Coffee.

01:42:18.000 Yeah, I like it.

01:42:19.000 Then the next idea is Ian walks into the room with his eyes glowing and he says, hello friends, would you like a glass of delicious cast brew coffee?

01:42:28.000 And everyone's like, oh yeah, sure, I guess.

01:42:31.000 And then one by one they all drink it and then turn into zombies just like him and go, this is good coffee.

01:42:37.000 Mine's a little cold, I'll zap it with my red eyes and it'll be steaming.

01:42:43.000 And then you can have someone be like, wow, does Casper give you superpowers?

01:42:46.000 And then he drinks it and then he goes, tastes good.

01:42:49.000 Doesn't give you superpowers.

01:42:52.000 Let's grab some more super chats.

01:42:55.000 T-Rex Patchup says, has Luke Rutkowski explained why he complains so much but doesn't vote?

01:43:00.000 One thing I always say is you can't complain if you don't vote.

01:43:02.000 Tim, how many mealworms do you need, live or freeze-dried?

01:43:05.000 I have no idea!

01:43:07.000 I'm not the chicken tender.

01:43:09.000 I no longer take care of the chickens.

01:43:11.000 I used to go out there periodically and I would feed the chickens and they'd all run around doing chicken stuff.

01:43:17.000 Oh, how can we answer that about Luke?

01:43:19.000 Why does he complain all the time and not all the time?

01:43:21.000 Why does he complain and not vote?

01:43:23.000 Apparently he came out complaining about DeSantis recently, despite praising him quite a bit over and over and over again.

01:43:28.000 You in the chat, Luke?

01:43:29.000 Why?

01:43:30.000 Why do you do it?

01:43:30.000 Because he advocates for personal responsibility.

01:43:32.000 It starts with him and his community.

01:43:34.000 Is that what he said?

01:43:35.000 No, that's just what I believe about him.

01:43:36.000 I don't know if he's listening right now.

01:43:39.000 We will grab some more Super Chats.

01:43:40.000 Is it worse to not vote?

01:43:43.000 In your opinion?

01:43:43.000 Okay.

01:43:43.000 I only vote if I believe in the candidate, truly.

01:43:47.000 I will not vote in an election if I don't find any of the candidates sufficient.

01:43:51.000 Okay, that's fair.

01:43:53.000 But I will tell people to vote for a candidate I believe in, and hopefully that generates

01:43:56.000 more than one vote.

01:43:57.000 I feel like that could be more effective than one vote.

01:43:59.000 All right.

01:44:00.000 Melissa Wood says, I'm more concerned now that they are hedging their bets on Trump

01:44:03.000 being elected, and they are warning anyone that may accept a position with his presidency

01:44:08.000 they will target, and Trump's left toothless.

01:44:12.000 Interesting.

01:44:16.000 ACDC says, Trump has been charged with more indictments than Al Capone and John Gotti together.

01:44:22.000 Whoa.

01:44:22.000 Unreal.

01:44:23.000 Yeah, but they couldn't get Capone on anything.

01:44:25.000 They got him on tax evasion.

01:44:26.000 Wasn't that it?

01:44:26.000 Tax evasion?

01:44:30.000 Anthony Brownlee says, I live in Georgia and I am sick of these corrupt politicians thinking they know what's best for me and my family.

01:44:36.000 I'm ready to make a stand, quit my job, and run for office, but I'm calling for help to get started, not money, just information where to start.

01:44:44.000 Google, I suppose.

01:44:45.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:44:46.000 Maybe you could meet with local officials, go to a local congressman's office and ask them and see what they can do for you, see what they can tell you.

01:44:53.000 Trent Lamalino says, I had only plans to vote for Dave Smith, but with him not seemingly wanted, wanting to, and everything going on with Trump, I'll vote for 45 Savage.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, I'd have liked to vote for Dave Smith, but I want Trump to win.

01:45:07.000 I'm not sure Dave is running.

01:45:09.000 I don't know what's going on with that.

01:45:11.000 There was like rumors of him doing it, but I don't know what's going on.

01:45:14.000 There's a lot of rumors going around the Libertarian Party about who may or may not run.

01:45:18.000 I've heard a bunch.

01:45:19.000 If I understand, Dave is not going to run.

01:45:21.000 Is that publicly known?

01:45:22.000 Well, I don't, if I understand, I don't think there's been any kind of like confirmation that he's not, but the, you know, he hasn't announced and everyone kind of is like running around looking around for someone for the Libertarians.

01:45:34.000 The rumors I've heard is that the Mises Caucus guys are trying to find someone and their choices are awful.

01:45:43.000 One of them, one of the choices that I've heard is he's a friend of mine.

01:45:48.000 He's a nice guy.

01:45:50.000 I don't know if he's, I don't even, I've never seen him hanging out with libertarians.

01:45:55.000 I've never seen him post about libertarian stuff.

01:45:58.000 I don't know if he knows.

01:45:59.000 Ian should do it.

01:45:59.000 I don't know if he knows who Mises is.

01:46:02.000 Ian!

01:46:04.000 Ian's not very libertarian at the time.

01:46:07.000 But no libertarian agrees any libertarian is libertarian, so it works perfectly.

01:46:11.000 As you were talking, I was like, how can a libertarian run the country?

01:46:14.000 Because the whole purpose is that you decentralize the process.

01:46:15.000 You're not a real libertarian!

01:46:16.000 It would be cool to go in there and decentralize the government, though.

01:46:19.000 It's a funny thing about libertarianism versus communism.

01:46:21.000 Communists believe that every communist country wasn't real communism, and libertarians think each other individual libertarian are not real libertarians.

01:46:29.000 As soon as you want the state to do anything, you're not a libertarian.

01:46:32.000 Yeah.

01:46:34.000 Eeyore says, I'm curious if y'all heard of the gun YouTuber Brandon Herrera running for the 23rd District of Texas.

01:46:39.000 I think he'd be a great guest for the show.

01:46:39.000 Yes.

01:46:41.000 Love the show.

01:46:41.000 Keep up the great work.

01:46:42.000 We have.

01:46:42.000 Absolutely.

01:46:43.000 Brandon is the homie. 0.99

01:46:45.000 Promotional email says, don't know if this made the rounds yet.

01:46:48.000 Marion County, Kansas, police conducted a raid and seizure of local news agency, reporters and their equipment, happened a couple days ago, and I believe the woman who owned it, while they were getting raided, she died of like a stress heart attack or something like that?

01:47:01.000 Yeah, I heard about that.

01:47:02.000 Well, I didn't know that it was a woman, I thought it was a man, but I heard it was a person that died of a heart attack.

01:47:06.000 Oh, was it a man?

01:47:06.000 It was like an old person who owned it, and while the police were, I guess it's like an illegal raid, they just dropped dead.

01:47:11.000 Yep.

01:47:11.000 Jeez.

01:47:12.000 Welcome to America!

01:47:13.000 Right.

01:47:16.000 Yes, but there's no GOP, they're not gonna do anything.

01:47:18.000 They're not gonna do anything.

01:47:19.000 It is time for prosecutors in red states to start indicting Fannie Willis, Jack Smith, Judge Chutkan, Alvin Bragg, etc.

01:47:26.000 for election interference, then issue arrest warrants for them and hold them without bond. Anything goes now.

01:47:32.000 Yes, but there's no GOP. They're not going to do anything.

01:47:34.000 They're not going to do anything. That's the thing.

01:47:37.000 Dan N.S.

01:47:37.000 says, Ian, they want power.

01:47:39.000 It will never be enough for them, make no mistake.

01:47:41.000 They want any opposition to them to be illegal.

01:47:44.000 Who's they?

01:47:46.000 Who is they, though?

01:47:47.000 Jesus.

01:47:47.000 Who is they, though?

01:47:48.000 Democrats.

01:47:49.000 Yeah, that's such a monolith.

01:47:50.000 You know, I gotta do this.

01:47:52.000 Maybe someone listening wants to do this.

01:47:54.000 There's that song by Jem from, I think, like the 2000s called They.

01:47:58.000 And just listen to the song and it's hilarious by today's standards because of what it implies based on the, you know, like the ACLU and the SPLC and the ADL.

01:48:09.000 Maybe not ACLU, but the ADL and the SPLC.

01:48:12.000 And like, what are some of the lyrics?

01:48:13.000 Someone's like...

01:48:15.000 I can't remember the song, but look up the lyrics.

01:48:17.000 And I was thinking it would be funny to make a video where you have the song, They.

01:48:22.000 Any song that refers to They as a protest song.

01:48:26.000 And then after every key line from the song, it's Kanye going, who is They though?

01:48:32.000 You also have, I was into Muse, I forgot what the song's called, but in the song they're like, they will stop degrading us, they will, like, yeah, people know the song, and I'm like, we were skating, and the song comes on, they will stop ignoring us, or whatever, I don't know what the lyrics are, and I just went, who is they though?

01:48:49.000 And I'm like, there's a lot of songs that refers to they as people in control and power.

01:48:54.000 And I think we just need a compilation of every song that's talking about they, you know, or them.

01:48:58.000 And then just having Kanye jump in.

01:49:01.000 Actually, and you could probably do, you could probably do a cover.

01:49:03.000 Like, you could probably do like a full song where you make an amalgam of all these different songs.

01:49:09.000 And every time that line is sung, you get actually in sequence with the song.

01:49:13.000 Who is they though?

01:49:13.000 Oh, and like pitch correct it?

01:49:15.000 Yeah.

01:49:15.000 That'd be great.

01:49:16.000 That's doable.

01:49:17.000 That'd be funny.

01:49:20.000 Where we at?

01:49:22.000 Crunkaju says J6 was in support of Pence to reject the counterfeit electors, except Pence was a coward and backed out, so we were left with Biden.

01:49:29.000 It's not necessarily about even rejecting counterfeiters.

01:49:32.000 The principal argument was that, in some instances, governors changed the election rules without the approval of the state legislature, or courts did.

01:49:41.000 And the argument was, these electors should go before the state legislation.

01:49:46.000 There should be a session where they vote to certify this, if they want.

01:49:50.000 And if they don't, then they make a decision.

01:49:53.000 And Mike Pence was terrified that the deep state would come for him, as they're coming for everyone else.

01:49:59.000 So there you go.

01:50:01.000 Where are we at?

01:50:04.000 Let's grab this one.

01:50:08.000 Tyrion says, did Ian just honestly say Trump has poor people skills?

01:50:11.000 He's loved by his employees.

01:50:13.000 He's negotiated with his enemies and helped bring peace.

01:50:15.000 They attack him because he has those skills and is uncontrollable.

01:50:20.000 Yeah, I didn't think I didn't say people skills.

01:50:22.000 It was but it was similar to Socrates like he angers people.

01:50:26.000 You know, some people are well liked by everyone around them and some people are more divisive.

01:50:30.000 So he pisses the people that he's pissed off is coming back to haunt him.

01:50:33.000 I think. 0.99

01:50:36.000 But like he called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig in public. 0.99

01:50:39.000 That's crazy. 0.99

01:50:41.000 I think more than once. 0.91

01:50:42.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

01:50:44.000 A fat pig. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Triton 54 says the 117th Congress is in its infancy. 0.99

01:50:50.000 Had to step over the dead body of a veteran to confirm the electoral vote for the presidency.

01:50:55.000 Tell me again we are not in a civil war.

01:50:58.000 The argument against the civil war as a term is that there's not discernible factions shooting each other in the streets.

01:51:05.000 The argument, I suppose, is if it escalates to that point, they will refer to this period as a civil war.

01:51:12.000 Right.

01:51:12.000 Right?

01:51:13.000 So it's like... Yeah.

01:51:15.000 It depends.

01:51:16.000 It depends.

01:51:16.000 It'll be like Weimar Germany with all the different factions fighting in the streets.

01:51:22.000 Yeah.

01:51:24.000 I guess it could be, if it goes the Spanish Civil War route, you get a right-wing military coup, and if it goes, it could go the Nazi route, or it could go the Bolshevik route.

01:51:32.000 Pick your poison.

01:51:33.000 They're all awful.

01:51:34.000 People fighting in the streets before lunchtime, yeah.

01:51:38.000 Bitorn says, how does Trump ever get a fair trial by a jury of his peers?

01:51:41.000 How many billionaire real estate mogul former presidents are there?

01:51:44.000 Haha.

01:51:46.000 Yeah, there was, uh, people are looking up the names of the grand jurors, and apparently a bunch of them are die-hard leftists.

01:51:52.000 Oh, nice.

01:51:53.000 I just saw the video of the 30-year-old girl that was, like, the foreman on that one trial, where she's like, they're talking like this, and I was eating a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles popsicle when we invited...

01:52:05.000 Who the hell saw that?

01:52:06.000 That was crazy. 0.84

01:52:07.000 Her name was what? 0.98

01:52:07.000 Emma? 0.98

01:52:08.000 I don't remember.

01:52:09.000 What is that girl's name? 0.99

01:52:11.000 That was crazy.

01:52:12.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

01:52:13.000 Patriot American says, Tim, in my opinion, the next civil war is going to be a mix of IRA guerrilla warfare tactics from the 20th century with modern 21st century resistance tactics like hacking using technology to inflict damage physically.

01:52:24.000 It's going to be all drones.

01:52:26.000 No, no, I think, I think there's going to be like poisonings.

01:52:29.000 I think there's like, there, and, and look what happened in Russia with that, that influencer who got, who was given the statue that exploded.

01:52:37.000 I think, I think in modern fifth generational civil war, you see things like that.

01:52:41.000 Geez.

01:52:42.000 There will be hackings.

01:52:44.000 There will be industrial control system hacking and things like that.

01:52:47.000 Uh, power grids shutting down.

01:52:50.000 But I think the escalation path for this in terms of street level violence, I don't know if we get to that point where the street level violence is inherently worse, is substantially worse than where it was a few years ago.

01:53:05.000 Because those extremists are now in government, or the government has become extreme to where they're just arresting their enemies.

01:53:12.000 So you have Antifa fighting with Proud Boys in the street, yeah that's phase one.

01:53:16.000 The next level is now, the FBI is Antifa, and they're literally just going and arresting anyone who opposes them.

01:53:22.000 So in that case, it's a revolution.

01:53:25.000 You don't see a civil conflict.

01:53:28.000 And then if they win, history records evil people were arrested.

01:53:32.000 You know, the fascists were stopped before they could rise to power.

01:53:34.000 Do you think that American republicanism can exist on the global stage?

01:53:39.000 Yes.

01:53:41.000 I think it's the perfect way for the world to operate.

01:53:45.000 People have their own sovereign states.

01:53:47.000 They can live the way they want to live, and then there are courts and councils so that we can adjudicate problems.

01:53:55.000 Like, I have no problem with international treaties and cooperation on solving International problems.

01:54:05.000 I don't like the idea of a totalitarian communist one-world government.

01:54:09.000 I like the idea that instead of going to war, we file a lawsuit with an agreed-upon third party, and then one country hears that, you know, we don't fight over it.

01:54:18.000 In fact, I would prefer if there was a territorial dispute, we have a soccer match over it. 0.98

01:54:23.000 Like, anything is better than blowing each other up, you know?

01:54:28.000 But who knows?

01:54:29.000 KCB says, I unbelievably agree with Brian Krasenstein.

01:54:32.000 Interactions IRL with political opponents are usually cordial.

01:54:35.000 IMO any future widespread violence would be aimed at the government enforcers who

01:54:39.000 impose penalties on anti-dissenters.

01:54:40.000 Wrong.

01:54:41.000 Just tell that to Aaron Danielson, who was shot twice in the chest for no reason.

01:54:44.000 Go to any political rally where whenever conservatives say they're going to have a

01:54:49.000 rally, the left shows up and mercilessly beats people.

01:54:52.000 Years ago, I watched them throw an explosive at an old lady who then fell on the ground and it was an M-80.

01:54:59.000 I say explosive, people are thinking it's bigger.

01:55:01.000 M-80, dangerous, can kill you, especially an old lady. 1.00

01:55:05.000 Blow your hand off. 0.85

01:55:06.000 And she falls down and gets knocked down by this. 0.99

01:55:09.000 And I'm like, this is nuts.

01:55:11.000 Like, they're throwing mortar shells at people, at each other.

01:55:16.000 It's the craziest thing that winter comes around and people forget what happened a couple years ago.

01:55:21.000 It is wild, man.

01:55:23.000 Memory, how memory is so temperamental.

01:55:25.000 Yeah, you had jazz.

01:55:27.000 You had them unload hundreds of rifle rounds into a white SUV killing two teenagers.

01:55:33.000 And they're like, but interactions are cordial.

01:55:35.000 Dude, I want you to imagine the Civil War.

01:55:38.000 Do you think that the dude who like worked at the shoe shop walked outside and went, oh, I'm going to go punch my next door neighbor because he's got different political views than me?

01:55:45.000 That's just not what happens.

01:55:48.000 Granted, in Syria, it's eventually what does happen in full-scale societal collapse.

01:55:53.000 I think what the Super Chatter was intending to mean is that when you have a diplomatic conversation with someone, you can get through them regardless of political affiliation.

01:56:02.000 When it's one-on-one, not necessarily in crowds, not at rallies and stuff, that's a hard place to strike up a conversation.

01:56:08.000 But like here for instance on a show or something you a lot of times can have really... That's why the United States has stood the test of time to this point is because we've been able to talk about wildly different political views.

01:56:20.000 I don't know if I completely agree.

01:56:23.000 I think...

01:56:27.000 It could be revolutionary in the sense that the left has taken control of law enforcement institutions, and they're going to use them to stop the right from getting control back.

01:56:37.000 But why are those people not terrorists?

01:56:39.000 Can you answer that for me?

01:56:40.000 Which people?

01:56:41.000 When you just explained that they're throwing M80s into groups of people. 0.97

01:56:44.000 They're terrorists.

01:56:46.000 Yeah, but they're not.

01:56:47.000 Because their allies are in law enforcement.

01:56:49.000 There you go.

01:56:49.000 Right.

01:56:50.000 And so Donald Trump was unwilling to use law enforcement to stop these people, and they are willing to use law enforcement to stop Trump.

01:56:58.000 There were official documents that declared Antifa a terrorist organization.

01:57:09.000 I'm confident that that actually happened on a federal level.

01:57:14.000 So, on a federal level, Antifa's considered?

01:57:17.000 I'm pretty sure the FBI considers... Oh, because I'm pretty sure they're still going after right-wing people on... They'll go after them both.

01:57:26.000 They don't mind anyone who challenges their authority.

01:57:28.000 I mean, I'm personally, emotionally, I'm more of a right-leaning kind of guy.

01:57:33.000 But like, you know, I don't like the government at all.

01:57:36.000 And the government will go after left people that don't like the government. 0.98

01:57:38.000 They have no problem.

01:57:40.000 There's a bill, House Resolution 272 calling for the designation of Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.

01:57:47.000 That's from 2021-22 of October of 2021.

01:57:48.000 I don't know if it's If it's passed.

01:57:55.000 It was introduced in March of 21.

01:57:57.000 Introduced and just sitting there.

01:57:59.000 The FBI has sufficient latitude to go after anyone that they want to consider a terrorist.

01:58:09.000 And the definitions are loose enough nowadays that they can pretty much just slap the The Xbox Gamer says, Tim, how about that TimCast clip featured at the end of a new Trump 24 ad?

01:58:22.000 Saw it in a Benny Johnson video earlier today.

01:58:24.000 I think the Don wants to chat.

01:58:25.000 I have no idea to which you are referring.

01:58:26.000 said. The Xbox gamer says Tim, how about that Timcast clip featured at the end of a new Trump

01:58:31.000 24 ad? Saw it in a Benny Johnson video earlier today. I think the Don wants to chat. I have no

01:58:36.000 idea to which you are referring. Does anybody know what he's talking about? No, I saw that

01:58:40.000 Benny Johnson tweet.

01:58:42.000 What tweet?

01:58:43.000 A four minute clip of Donald Trump talking, but there was no ads.

01:58:46.000 That was on Twitter.

01:58:47.000 On X. I don't know if that's what he's referring to.

01:58:50.000 Okay, maybe not.

01:58:51.000 I don't know.

01:58:52.000 No idea how to find whatever it is you're talking about either way.

01:58:55.000 A Benny Johnson YouTube video?

01:58:56.000 Twitter video?

01:58:57.000 It was a Twitter video.

01:59:01.000 Alright, let's uh...

01:59:04.000 Puppy on a Train says, I live in G.A.

01:59:06.000 There was a question here about mail-in ballots with duplicate signatures.

01:59:09.000 One of Trump's requests was a signature verification to remove double ballots.

01:59:12.000 Governor Kemp did a standard recount.

01:59:14.000 That's right.

01:59:16.000 That's right.

01:59:17.000 They did remove some double ballots.

01:59:19.000 Atlantic Journal-Constitution confirmed that, but yep.

01:59:23.000 Adam Helm says, ask Phil if he will sing the Oliver Anthony song sometime.

01:59:26.000 That would be awesome.

01:59:27.000 The Oliver Anthony?

01:59:28.000 Oh, the Richmond North of Richmond?

01:59:30.000 I'd have to learn it.

01:59:32.000 Make a metal version?

01:59:33.000 Metal cover?

01:59:34.000 It's screaming.

01:59:35.000 Yeah.

01:59:40.000 A better future, says Tim.

01:59:41.000 It's Muse Uprising.

01:59:42.000 Thank you for what you do for the culture war, sir. 0.55

01:59:44.000 That's right.

01:59:45.000 Uprising.

01:59:47.000 Yep.

01:59:48.000 They.

01:59:49.000 Who is they, though?

01:59:51.000 I'm still trying to find out.

01:59:52.000 Who is they, though?

01:59:53.000 Jesus.

01:59:53.000 Yep.

01:59:54.000 Yeah, I want to put that together.

01:59:56.000 Just get a whole bunch of... So, there's Jem, they, and there's Muse, Uprising.

02:00:00.000 What other songs are there where they talk about they?

02:00:04.000 In Richmond, North of Richmond, he outright just says, Richmond, North of Richmond are doing this thing.

02:00:08.000 He's telling you who they is.

02:00:10.000 Yeah.

02:00:11.000 Who is they, though?

02:00:12.000 People in DC, politicians and political elites?

02:00:17.000 Where we at?

02:00:18.000 Joshua Mosk says, with everything going on, we found out the government and the FBI suppressed the Hunter Biden story, and a whole lot more.

02:00:25.000 Joe Biden admits they had a fraud campaign going.

02:00:27.000 Do you still think the election was not rigged?

02:00:30.000 When did Joe Biden admit they had a fraud campaign going?

02:00:33.000 When did they say that?

02:00:34.000 What are they talking about?

02:00:34.000 I think they were referring to the clip when Joe Biden mistakenly said that he had the biggest voter fraud operation going since, like, whatever.

02:00:47.000 Great moment, great moment.

02:00:48.000 And the full context was he was saying it was we were stopping it.

02:00:52.000 Yeah.

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02:01:47.000 And I'm Ian Crossland.

02:01:48.000 Follow me on social media.

02:01:49.000 And I actually, on X, I did my first Space today at 4 o'clock p.m.

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02:01:59.000 It was pretty awesome.

02:02:00.000 I'm going to be doing a lot more of those.

02:02:01.000 I don't know what platform to do it on.

02:02:03.000 YouTube, you can do video.

02:02:05.000 That's pretty cool.

02:02:05.000 Mine's just introduced streaming.

02:02:07.000 And, of course, Spaces.

02:02:09.000 Spaces has no video.

02:02:10.000 And I know the face is nice, but...

02:02:12.000 Let me know.

02:02:13.000 They're bringing Periscope back, if I understand correctly.

02:02:15.000 Awesome.

02:02:15.000 Really?

02:02:16.000 I think you can do it now.

02:02:18.000 Elon's done it a couple times, so I'm not sure if he can do it right now or not, but it's coming apparently.

02:02:23.000 Very cool.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 15, 2023

Timcast IRL - Democrats Indict Trumps LAWYERS, Trump MUST Surrender In 10 Days w-Conservative Ant

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