Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Democrats Prepare To ARREST Steve Bannon For Contempt w-Will Chamberlain

00:00:00.000 The Democrats on the January 6th committee have subpoenaed many of Trump's allies, notably

00:00:27.000 Steve Bannon who is refusing to comply with the subpoena, which means the Democrats are

00:00:32.000 going to hold him in contempt.

00:00:33.000 And now you can see all across Twitter, people are saying, send in the marshals.

00:00:36.000 They are gleefully cheering for the arrest of a political rival who they accuse of being involved in the insurrection.

00:00:42.000 And it's all based on lies.

00:00:43.000 It's all based on lies.

00:00:44.000 So we know that Steve Bannon said that he was there helping organize a rally.

00:00:49.000 The leftist media then took that and tried to make it seem like he said he organized the active riot at the Capitol.

00:00:55.000 That is the sentiment required.

00:00:57.000 That's the fake news that riles people up who then say, arrest him and arrest him now!

00:01:02.000 And it's absolutely getting crazy.

00:01:04.000 We got other stories in fake news, my friends.

00:01:06.000 We've got CNN and Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan grilling Sanjay Gupta, getting him to say, yes, you're right, CNN should not have said ivermectin was horse dewormer or that you were taking it.

00:01:16.000 But then Sanjay Gupta goes on Aaron Burnett's show, who lied about it, and Don Lemon's show, who lied about it, and they double down, and Sanjay Gupta does not correct them, because they are fake news.

00:01:29.000 But outside of that, I think it's all part of the bigger story in that the economy's collapsing, we're on the verge of some kind of civil war, we're actively seeing now people trying to arrest the political rivals, which has been the case, I guess, for several years.

00:01:42.000 We've just resisted the actual action of doing so, but now it's looking like it's getting to that point.

00:01:47.000 And we have a, this is crazy, a jail warden in DC being held in contempt over violating the civil rights of one of the January 6th defendants.

00:01:55.000 So maybe that's some good news in the end, that some judges are actually going to be like, yo, people have civil rights.

00:02:00.000 But I think in the long run, it's feeling like falling apart.

00:02:03.000 Well, joining us to talk all about this is Will Chamberlain of Human Events.

00:02:07.000 Yes, I'm a lawyer, co-publisher of Human Events, senior counsel to the Internet Accountability Project, which fights big tech abuse, and always happy to be here with you guys.

00:02:21.000 I really do believe that independent media could ... only survive with members area and that's why the shirt ... I'm wearing right now is only one that you could get ... exclusively by being a part of Luke uncensored.com ... there's no profit to us and you could wear our unofficial ... uniform of our not-secret society and Instagram is ... telling people not to follow me we're going to be talking ...

00:02:43.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy out there.

00:02:45.000 Yeah, I Unfollowed Luke to see what happened and followed him and it's like are you sure you want to follow this guy?

00:02:50.000 He's fake news Yeah, our fact-checker said so.

00:02:52.000 Yeah, it's it's mind-boggling Like I feel like I want to know this just in case I ever I mean you guys you guys just followed me So you guys are probably on the second list of the main list.

00:03:06.000 So be warned.

00:03:08.000 I mean you guys are there, too So welcome to the club I've been following you since before you were fake news, so I wonder if they'll have me on some sort of list now.

00:03:16.000 I think a long time ago.

00:03:17.000 I guess we're listing ourselves by putting ourselves on social media.

00:03:20.000 Interesting world we live in.

00:03:21.000 Hey, Will, I'm glad you're here.

00:03:23.000 Jordan, congratulations, you guys.

00:03:24.000 First time I've seen you guys since you tied the knot.

00:03:27.000 Welcome to the studio, bro.

00:03:29.000 Yeah, it's good to be back.

00:03:30.000 I'm a married man.

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00:03:40.000 It's nice, I guess.

00:03:42.000 I'm enjoying it very much.

00:03:44.000 Is it that different from pre-married life?

00:03:46.000 Not under the circumstances, I guess.

00:03:48.000 I don't know.

00:03:50.000 Very well spoke.

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00:05:03.000 Let's talk about the news!

00:05:04.000 Let's talk about the absolute chaos that is affecting this country, and man, the spark of civil war never seemed closer.

00:05:11.000 We got this from the BBC.

00:05:12.000 Now, I chose the BBC on purpose, because it's not an American news outlet, so I was really interested in how they would frame it, especially considering it's kind of a left establishment.

00:05:19.000 They write, Steve Bannon, Congress plots criminal charge for former Trump aide.

00:05:25.000 Mr. Bannon has been summoned to testify before the congressional panel investigating the riot on Thursday.

00:05:30.000 He did not appear, prompting the head of the committee to schedule a Tuesday vote to hold him in criminal contempt.

00:05:37.000 If convicted, Mr. Bannon faces a fine up to one year in prison.

00:05:41.000 Democrats say he is trying to delay the probe.

00:05:44.000 Mr. Bannon, a former right-wing media executive who became Mr. Trump's chief strategist, was fired from the White House.

00:05:48.000 Yeah, yeah, we get it.

00:05:49.000 He was asked to testify regarding his communication with Mr. Trump a week before the incident, as well as his involvement in discussing plans to overturn the election results that saw Joe Biden in the White House.

00:06:00.000 I don't, I don't know if that's fair framing.

00:06:03.000 He's out to overturn the election results.

00:06:05.000 He certainly thinks there's widespread fraud, but what they're doing is there was this thing he said where he was like, you know, I was there and I was talking with Trump right before the rally and like helped organize it or something.

00:06:15.000 And they're trying to take that and reframe it as though he said he organized the riot, which he didn't.

00:06:20.000 Now, the bigger thing here to me, that's scary.

00:06:25.000 Establishment Democrats, and for all intents and purposes, Republicans, but they're actually Democrats.

00:06:32.000 are now actually going after people.

00:06:34.000 They're going after private citizens to force them to testify in their crackpot probe. 0.99

00:06:39.000 If they actually come and arrest Bannon over this, it's like we're dangerously close, in my opinion, to a spark of some kind of civil war.

00:06:49.000 I wouldn't be quite so pessimistic in the short term, because I think, ultimately, the amount of time it will take them to even get to the point, right?

00:06:56.000 Like, Congress doesn't have the ability to charge somebody with contempt or prosecute them, right?

00:07:00.000 They're relying on referring it to the U.S.

00:07:02.000 Attorney of D.C., and then that actually has to go through normal criminal process.

00:07:07.000 Bannon's not just making a claim that, basically, he's making a claim, like I read the letter he sent to his lawyer, or his lawyer sent to Congress, And they're claiming, look, the president's claimed his executive privilege and I'm, as an aide to him or somebody who was talking with him, I'm bound by that.

00:07:27.000 I'll be happy to produce the documents if you come to an agreement with the Trump people or if you get a court order saying so.

00:07:35.000 Under those circumstances, I don't know if they're going to be able to prove criminal contempt.

00:07:38.000 It'll take a long time to get proven, but I think the really big problem here is, you notice what they're talking about.

00:07:45.000 What is the January 6th Commission about?

00:07:47.000 Is it designed to help with any legislative purpose?

00:07:50.000 No.

00:07:52.000 And that's the bigger issue, right?

00:07:53.000 Yeah.

00:07:54.000 I'm not saying that we're at the point where, you know, all of a sudden we're going to see another, you know, CNN showing up at 6 in the morning to Bannon's house or anything like that.

00:08:02.000 But we're moving from, we had in the Trump era, lock her up, arrest Hillary Clinton, and a lot of people being like, yeah, she should be arrested. 0.99

00:08:10.000 I mean, she should be locked up for the email scandal at the very least, let alone lots of other things that went down with the Clinton Foundation and serious things that should be investigated.

00:08:19.000 And now we're moving towards people are actively cheering and screaming on both sides for the arrest of the other side.

00:08:26.000 I can't imagine, regardless of who's right or wrong, that this is going to lead somewhere good.

00:08:30.000 No, it's not.

00:08:31.000 And the fact that we're even doing committees like this, like, again, Congress is, the reason they have subpoena power, they're not, they're not a court.

00:08:37.000 They're not, and they also don't have law enforcement power, right?

00:08:39.000 That's in the executive branch.

00:08:41.000 They have legislative power.

00:08:42.000 So the goal of any committee has to have some legislative purpose.

00:08:45.000 They can, you know, it makes sense they can subpoena something the executive branch is doing because they kind of oversee it.

00:08:49.000 They authorize the funding for it.

00:08:51.000 But here it's like they're doing an investigation of private criminal behavior.

00:08:55.000 Right?

00:08:56.000 Or what they think is objectionable private behavior.

00:08:58.000 Well, that's a star chamber.

00:09:01.000 They don't have to go get a warrant when they go issue these subpoenas.

00:09:06.000 And so there has to be some limitation on what they can subpoena based on.

00:09:10.000 And apparently they've just decided, no, we can just subpoena people to embarrass our political opponents.

00:09:15.000 And that's sufficient proof.

00:09:16.000 But this is nothing new.

00:09:17.000 I mean, they've been doing it to lower-level people, and I think it's only escalating to where it's now, and I wouldn't be surprised if, even if it does take a long time, that they're still going to try to go after Bannon criminally, because they go after people politically all the time.

00:09:32.000 You look at the activities of the FBI.

00:09:33.000 They are extremely political.

00:09:35.000 They choose and select who they go after.

00:09:37.000 Oh, Jeffrey Epstein, 30 years, doesn't matter.

00:09:40.000 Oh, someone lied to Congress?

00:09:43.000 We have to get a SWAT team in front of their house with CNN right in the morning as fast as we can.

00:09:48.000 As long as the name's not James Clapper.

00:09:50.000 Exactly.

00:09:52.000 Or Dr. Fauci.

00:09:53.000 Our lord and savior, Dr. Fauci, who's always right, never wrong.

00:09:57.000 That was really one of my favorite moments, when Rand Paul was like, You conducted gain-of-function research.

00:10:04.000 Gain-of-function research is defined as modifying a virus to increase infectivity.

00:10:09.000 And then Fauci's like, we didn't do gain-of-function research.

00:10:13.000 We just modified a virus for increased infectivity.

00:10:16.000 He went full lawyer.

00:10:18.000 He went full, like, I am being deposed.

00:10:21.000 You know, Fauci, who's normally like, Open in his language and very it is not a door Yeah, it is a large wooden object with a latch that when you turn a metal object Releases it allowing that that that wouldn't plank to be moved Yeah, and it's very different just a coincidence that it's almost the same genetic sequence that we were asking for grant funding With the exact cleavage site with the exact sickness that's going around the world right now.

00:10:46.000 It's just you know a coincidence Not here to question anything, you know YouTube overlords, please.

00:10:52.000 We love Fauci You see that woman who was skydiving?

00:10:55.000 Yes, that was brilliant.

00:10:56.000 So there's a woman and she's skydiving and the instructor, who they're in tandem, his helmet said, arrest Fauci, Infowars.com.

00:11:04.000 And then she posted like, I trusted this man with my life.

00:11:08.000 And it wasn't until after we saw the photo, we realized what the sticker said.

00:11:11.000 And she was like shocked.

00:11:12.000 And I'm like, what did you think was going to happen?

00:11:14.000 That like this flight instructor was like, I'm going down with her to like get her or something?

00:11:18.000 They're attached together.

00:11:19.000 He's got a sticker on his forehead.

00:11:21.000 That's how insane it is though.

00:11:23.000 You know, I think there's one of the phenomena, one of the circumstances in the culture war.

00:11:30.000 Conservatives don't care interacting with the left, or I shouldn't even say conservatives, but like whatever the freedom side is, doesn't mind going to a store owned by a bunch of people with Biden flags.

00:11:41.000 There's a Biden flags all over and they sell cupcakes.

00:11:43.000 Look, I want a cupcake.

00:11:44.000 I don't care that much.

00:11:45.000 The other way around though, they'll throw a brick through your window.

00:11:47.000 This woman's freaking out like, I can't even go skydiving. 1.00

00:11:49.000 So look, Donald Trump didn't do nearly enough with the presidential powers.

00:11:55.000 The Democrats, as soon as they get power, it's the equivalent of throwing a brick through the window of the right.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, there's a lot of Republicans, I remember, remember the national emergency debate about whether the president should declare a national emergency to try and build the wall?

00:12:09.000 And how much, like, establishment Republicans were like, well, this will set a really bad precedent that Democrats could exploit.

00:12:15.000 And it's like, you say that, and then when Democrats take power, they all complain about, look at all the unprecedented things that Democrats are doing.

00:12:22.000 It's like, if they do unprecedented things, maybe you shouldn't really care that much about what precedents you set, because they don't, the Democrats don't But, but Will, they're paid, you know, a lot of money just to be, you know, the second level Democrats.

00:12:36.000 You didn't know about this?

00:12:37.000 They're paid just to be the cushion for, you know, the globalist agenda that they're pushing through.

00:12:42.000 That is such a good analogy.

00:12:43.000 Who came up with that one?

00:12:44.000 It wasn't me originally, but it might've been, it might've been Kurt Schlichter.

00:12:48.000 I don't know.

00:12:49.000 The Washington, the Republicans, the Washington generals, the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters.

00:12:52.000 Also might've been Yarvin back in the day.

00:12:54.000 I don't know.

00:12:55.000 But like, that's, that's actually, I think, yeah, it's a very good description.

00:12:57.000 Like, what is their purpose?

00:12:58.000 And so people are like, how come Tim Pool is always ragging on Democrats? I'm like,

00:13:02.000 because Mitch McConnell is sitting on his hands. That's about it.

00:13:06.000 Yeah. I mean, It's like, there's not much to complain about other than he's

00:13:09.000 ineffective. And well, I'll tell you this, how much money did he make over his

00:13:12.000 career in the Senate?

00:13:13.000 He's tens of millions of dollars, man. Screw all of these corrupt. 0.98

00:13:17.000 I was almost going to swear, but I won't do it. 1.00

00:13:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:19.000 It's all the same.

00:13:20.000 They somehow get a salary of, you know, $170,000 to $200,000.

00:13:20.000 It's all the same.

00:13:24.000 They become worth $30,000, $40,000,000.

00:13:27.000 Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters buying a mansion.

00:13:30.000 It's all the same.

00:13:31.000 There's people on TikTok literally making their careers off of stock picks that Nancy Pelosi makes. 1.00

00:13:38.000 Seriously, this is not funny.

00:13:40.000 This is real.

00:13:41.000 The amount of money that she made is absolutely insane.

00:13:45.000 But what's happening to Bannon, I believe, is a part of a slippery slope because we saw what happened politically when people on the left, when they were protesting for left issues, were arrested.

00:13:55.000 They raised money for them.

00:13:56.000 They got them out.

00:13:57.000 They elected prosecutors.

00:13:59.000 George Soros dumped a huge amount of money into local politics, and they were able to rig the game where their people don't go to jail, their people don't get prosecuted.

00:14:07.000 But if you sneeze in the wrong direction, if you're a part of the opposite party, you're going to see a heavy hammer come down on you.

00:14:14.000 And with, on average, Americans committing three felonies a day, when we have the politicization of our justice system, we're slowly evolving into the destruction of it.

00:14:24.000 And I think this is the start.

00:14:26.000 I think it started a long time ago, but I think this is the beginning of it.

00:14:29.000 And I think it's only going to swell and be made worse moving forward.

00:14:33.000 I see someone in the chat said, Tim, run for Senate.

00:14:36.000 And you know, I was thinking about it just now, and I'm like, if I did and I won, I would get really, really rich, you know, because as a member of the Senate, you'll make on average, I think $2 to $3 million a year on your $174,000 salary.

00:14:50.000 So it sounds pretty good.

00:14:52.000 You know, run for Senate, somehow become a millionaire.

00:14:55.000 Because it's just magic.

00:14:56.000 It's just, you know, just all of a sudden money just appears and no one knows where it comes from.

00:15:00.000 Well, I mean, you know, it comes from Hunter Biden style deals.

00:15:03.000 You just need to have children and then you can have them go earn money. 1.00

00:15:07.000 You could probably get a cushy job at Pfizer afterwards, or Google, or you'll get some donations from a lot of these multinational corporations and industrial complexes.

00:15:17.000 I mean, your life is set.

00:15:18.000 And you get a congressional salary for the rest of your life.

00:15:21.000 Do you really, though?

00:15:22.000 I heard that was a myth.

00:15:23.000 I've heard that was true.

00:15:25.000 Someone will fact check us very soon here in the comment section, which I'm paying attention to.

00:15:29.000 I don't know if that's true, you get paid a salary.

00:15:32.000 Getting back to this, I want Republicans next time in their power, which they probably will be.

00:15:38.000 We might have a DeSantis or somebody as a president.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, but look, unless Republicans win primaries, and that means getting America First or populist candidates to actually win, You're gonna end up with Kevin McCarthy, McConnell, Graham, and they're gonna be like, I'm gonna fight extra hard!

00:15:54.000 and then the camera turns off and they high five Joe Biden.

00:15:57.000 The Congress, I don't know how to fix the Congress problem, but I think, you know, the

00:16:00.000 executive branch is fixable.

00:16:02.000 In a world where a Republican executive branch was particularly ruthless in a way that made

00:16:08.000 Democrats realize maybe we need to change the rules.

00:16:10.000 But Trump, you mean?

00:16:11.000 Not Trump.

00:16:12.000 Trump is not the answer on that front.

00:16:14.000 I mean, people... Trump was... Not ruthless enough.

00:16:17.000 Well, I mean, he was just like a novice pilot in a 747 cockpit.

00:16:22.000 He didn't know what buttons to press.

00:16:24.000 And early on, he pressed some buttons really aggressively with the travel ban and a few other things like that and got zapped.

00:16:30.000 And so then he just kind of was like, I'm just gonna put the thing on autopilot.

00:16:33.000 When it comes to exercising his executive authority to try and screw the other side, he's just like, no, I'm not doing that.

00:16:40.000 And it's like, he could have pardoned a lot of people.

00:16:42.000 He could have done so much for this power.

00:16:43.000 And it's like, that's why one of the reasons I'm like, I want a lawyer next time, because this isn't, you know, people are like, man, we need a deal maker.

00:16:50.000 It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:16:51.000 We're not making deals anymore.

00:16:52.000 There's no deals to be made.

00:16:53.000 This isn't bipartisan world.

00:16:55.000 This is use the legal authority that you have available to you to, to cement your power and make the other side's lives miserable. 0.92

00:17:02.000 Isn't DeSantis a lawyer?

00:17:03.000 Yes.

00:17:04.000 Okay, that's what you're saying.

00:17:05.000 Let's talk about this other story.

00:17:06.000 So, Will brought this up to us before the show.

00:17:08.000 I missed this one.

00:17:09.000 Judge holds Washington, D.C.

00:17:12.000 jail officials in contempt in a January 6th riot case.

00:17:15.000 Basically, they say that Judge Royce Lamberth summoned the jail officials as part of the criminal case into Christopher Worrell, a member of the Proud Boys, who had been charged in the January 6th attack at the Capitol.

00:17:25.000 He'd been accused of attacking police officers with pepper spray gel, and prosecutors have alleged he traveled to Washington in coordination with the Proud Boys.

00:17:32.000 It's clear to me the civil rights of the defendant were violated by the D.C.

00:17:36.000 Department of Corrections, Lamberth said.

00:17:38.000 I don't know if it's because he's a January 6th defendant or not.

00:17:41.000 The judge ordered Quincy Booth, the director of the city's Department of Corrections, and Wanda Patton, the warden of D.C.

00:17:46.000 Jail, to be held in contempt of court.

00:17:49.000 While he did not impose any sanctions or penalties, the judge said he was referring the matter to the Justice Department to investigate whether the civil rights of the inmates in the jail are being violated.

00:17:58.000 This is big.

00:17:59.000 So this is over, what was it, he had a surgery he needed or something?

00:18:02.000 He had a broken wrist that he got in May, Mr. Worrell, who's also suffering from cancer.

00:18:06.000 Did he get the break in jail?

00:18:08.000 Yes, he got the break while in custody.

00:18:10.000 And apparently, and still apparently, has not yet gotten the necessary surgery to do it.

00:18:18.000 You know, this is a very, very basic thing we expect from our jails.

00:18:23.000 Now they're torturing these guys, man.

00:18:25.000 I mean, the only, you know, the best explanation, the most charitable one, is just pure incompetence, right?

00:18:31.000 Like the D.C. 0.74

00:18:32.000 jail is just this bad for everybody, which is not exactly, you know, heartwarming, right?

00:18:36.000 Either way, you're either intentionally making these people's lives miserable, or... I know the D.C.

00:18:42.000 defendants, or the January 6th defendants, are kind of in their own separate facility right now, is my understanding.

00:18:46.000 They were kept segregated from the rest of the general population, and maybe that facility has its own huge problems.

00:18:53.000 Well, if you remember last year when this story was developing I was even telling people Sorry this year Earlier this year at around February I was I was you know Bringing up this conversation where there was already reports of torture of people being put in solitary confinement of people being beat back then So to hear that some of these people are still in solitary confinement that they're being held in their own unit I mean this definitely seems overboard.

00:19:19.000 I mean solitary confinement for walking into a building. I mean some of the people did

00:19:24.000 commit some crimes, but even then when you compare it to you know some of the crimes happening in major urban areas

00:19:31.000 now. I mean there's not much to compare here.

00:19:34.000 Or just I mean even the treatment of the you know the rioters, the Antifa rioters,

00:19:40.000 over the course of the past few years.

00:19:42.000 I mean, there was actually one case, um, Judge Trevor McFadden, you know, he was giving a sentence and somebody who had plead, pled to misdemeanor.

00:19:48.000 And I think the, you know, the, the, you know, the government was asking for three months in jail or something like that.

00:19:54.000 And he gave them like three months probation or in like no jail time at all.

00:19:58.000 And basically said, like, I don't think you guys are serious.

00:20:00.000 You guys have not treated these the same way as the other defendants.

00:20:03.000 Like, there is criminal activity here, so there's going to be a punishment.

00:20:06.000 You pled to a misdemeanor.

00:20:07.000 That's a crime.

00:20:08.000 But, like, you guys are, you're wildly overblowing this with asking for serious, you know.

00:20:15.000 We got to be real on part of it, though, is that the left has experience.

00:20:20.000 Yeah.

00:20:21.000 And not just with their tactics while they insurrect, but also also the legal apparatus.

00:20:26.000 So when on January 7th, January, it was January of 2017, 21st, I think it was Trump's inauguration.

00:20:34.000 I was there.

00:20:35.000 Luke, you were there.

00:20:36.000 We were running through the streets and it's really funny what happened was we were running and there was this moment where Luke and I made two different choices.

00:20:36.000 Yup.

00:20:43.000 A row of police were forming and Luke just ran for it.

00:20:47.000 And I got pepper sprayed very heavily for it, because they were spraying the pepper spray, and I was like, I'm seeing the circle.

00:20:53.000 I'm like, it's either now or never, I get out.

00:20:56.000 I decided to go into the stairwell of a building.

00:21:00.000 Unfortunately, that's the decision every other Antifa made, and the cops immediately surrounded the whole group.

00:21:05.000 So this whole group of people, which was several hundred people, ultimately, after like an hour, I got released.

00:21:09.000 They said I had been arrested three times.

00:21:12.000 A lot of people, they don't know what arrest means.

00:21:13.000 I wasn't processed or charged.

00:21:16.000 I was arrested.

00:21:17.000 But eventually, a supervisor came out, showed him my press pass.

00:21:20.000 He pulled me and some other journalists up.

00:21:22.000 But all of those people were charged and they were charged with conspiracy.

00:21:26.000 Because they couldn't prove any one person was the person who was setting things on fire, that torched the limousine or threw bricks through windows.

00:21:36.000 And so they said, charge them all with conspiracy, which doesn't fly.

00:21:39.000 The state has to prove you as a person did something wrong, and they can't prove simply by wearing a hoodie.

00:21:45.000 This is the tactic, and it's why they do it.

00:21:47.000 Regardless.

00:21:48.000 Regardless.

00:21:50.000 When it came to January 6th, even if people were wearing masks or otherwise, they went above and beyond to torture these people in prison.

00:21:56.000 These Antifa people spent, it was overnight in jail, and the next day they walked out to thunderous applause of people outside.

00:22:02.000 These are people who were running through the streets, setting fires, beating, like, smashing windows, destroying property.

00:22:08.000 They torched a limo that belonged to some immigrant who had a small business.

00:22:13.000 These people get a slap on the wrist.

00:22:15.000 And a lot of their charges were dropped, too.

00:22:17.000 I remember hearing a lot about their charges.

00:22:19.000 The mainstream media was actually talking about it, how this was a travesty of injustice, how this was political prosecution.

00:22:25.000 And then I remember a lot of people who were part of it got off.

00:22:28.000 But you compare that to the story of Thomas Caldwell, who is a 66-year-old Navy and FBI veteran.

00:22:36.000 And according to him, he was never inside of the Capitol.

00:22:39.000 He never was a part of Oath Keepers.

00:22:41.000 He never committed any acts of violence against the state that day, but the state charged him as an Oath Keeper leader saying that he led the charge, organized everything, and put him in solitary confinement for 49 days.

00:22:55.000 He was just able to go out, Of solitary confinement he's speaking out against this story Thomas Caldwell he is raising money because the legal fees he says is is is exacerbating him and destroying his livelihood and he's he's saying that his farms going to be taken away soon.

00:23:14.000 So, he's still facing some legal court proceedings, but hearing stories of this 66-year-old guy who, again, is an FBI veteran, is an old Navy military member, to hear this kind of happen to me definitely shows me a totally different picture than what happened during the Trump inauguration.

00:23:36.000 And look at that woman who the feds raided her house in Alaska. 1.00

00:23:40.000 Wrong person.

00:23:41.000 Because someone on the airlines, she got an argument over a mask on one of the airlines and they snitched and they called the FBI and the FBI followed up on the story very vigilantly.

00:23:55.000 We get to a point with these conversations where I'm just like, Can we just pull words out of a hat to make headlines?

00:24:07.000 Like, if the subject is the right gets censored, the libertarian, the freedom, the anti-war types are the ones who get censored, and the establishment shills and the Democrats don't, and the law enforcement is heavily weighted against people who are in support of freedom and opposition to the establishment, and Antifa gets a free pass, and the Proud Boys rot in prison.

00:24:25.000 It's almost like, do we even need NPR to tell us this is happening?

00:24:28.000 We could just be like, hey, here's the news, guys.

00:24:31.000 The January 6th defendants are being tortured.

00:24:33.000 Antifa is being let go.

00:24:34.000 I don't need a source for that because it just happens all the time.

00:24:34.000 Moving on.

00:24:37.000 Right.

00:24:38.000 I mean, you know, one, I think as you mentioned, our side is very bad at crime in the way that the left is not.

00:24:43.000 The left is just much better at crime.

00:24:45.000 Yeah, they are.

00:24:46.000 I'm reminded of Charles Barkley talking about Jussie Smollett and being like, America, don't commit crimes with checks.

00:24:52.000 Well, I want to be like, America, don't enter the Capitol without a mask on.

00:24:58.000 You're done that way.

00:25:00.000 But also, clearly, there's just this enormous double standard in the way they're treated.

00:25:03.000 I'm reminded of Agamben and the state of exception.

00:25:06.000 Sovereign is he who decides in the exception.

00:25:08.000 And it's like, we have this world where You know, this is like the idea that we're have equal justice between different political sides is a total fiction.

00:25:17.000 That what we're seeing is just is a total joke.

00:25:19.000 And even if Republicans take back the House, they're not going to do anything.

00:25:24.000 They won't impeach Biden.

00:25:25.000 They should.

00:25:26.000 He should be impeached.

00:25:26.000 They won't.

00:25:27.000 I mean, he could have been impeached the moment he did that thing with the eviction moratorium where he said, I don't think this is constitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway.

00:25:35.000 And the Supreme Court said, you can't do it.

00:25:36.000 And he goes, I'll do it again.

00:25:38.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 And then it's like, I know it's probably going to be found unconstitutional.

00:25:41.000 I just don't really care.

00:25:42.000 And it'll, it'll, it'll last a couple of months for it to go through the court system.

00:25:45.000 And that's time that they won't be evicted.

00:25:47.000 So that's fine.

00:25:48.000 Like that's impeachable.

00:25:50.000 You have a duty to take care of the laws are faithfully executed.

00:25:52.000 So if you knowingly violate the constitution, it's impeachable.

00:25:56.000 It's just, but it's, you know, they're like, they're so feckless.

00:26:00.000 And the Democrats were already talking about just putting Republican political operatives in jail.

00:26:04.000 People gotta get active in the primaries and the state level.

00:26:07.000 That's everything.

00:26:08.000 But I saw that Kevin McCarthy has, like, record fundraising.

00:26:11.000 You know, he had, like, $60 million or something in the first nine months of the year, and I'm just like, why?

00:26:15.000 Like, he's so... They're on the same team as the Democrats.

00:26:21.000 It's a show.

00:26:22.000 Exactly.

00:26:22.000 This is why, when you brought up Clapper, I thought that.

00:26:24.000 James Clapper sitting in front of Congress testifying, saying, we did not wittingly spy on the American people.

00:26:30.000 Blatant lie, and then they let him go.

00:26:32.000 They still haven't charged him with any kind of perjury or anything.

00:26:34.000 It's beyond... General Hayden, who's a part of NewsGuard, literally said the same thing.

00:26:39.000 Former CIA and NSA head said, no, we're not spying on anyone.

00:26:43.000 It's beyond politics.

00:26:45.000 It's like the administrative state is protecting their own.

00:26:49.000 Maybe Biden's part of that.

00:26:49.000 Yeah.

00:26:51.000 Maybe Fauci's part of that.

00:26:52.000 Of course he is.

00:26:54.000 It's that's a big love and you ain't in it.

00:26:56.000 I don't think you can use politics to defend against that.

00:27:00.000 I mean, you know, that's ultimately there is a world where you can that the administrative state is subordinate to the White House and the White House, a White House that knew what they were doing and was really like aggressive with their use of power.

00:27:13.000 do real damage to the administrative state. The Trump White House was not that White House.

00:27:13.000 Obama?

00:27:17.000 It just was because they just were, they got, they were real, real cautious and weren't willing to,

00:27:23.000 you know, do the, make the changes that needed to be made.

00:27:25.000 Obama, you think he knew how, but just was co-opted or something or?

00:27:29.000 Obama was part of it. Like Obama was the administrative state's candidate.

00:27:32.000 That's a way to think of Biden.

00:27:33.000 Biden is like, you know, Biden is team administrative state.

00:27:37.000 The entire premise of like Democrat presidents is like, we will get out of the way and let the bureaucracy do their thing.

00:27:42.000 Right?

00:27:43.000 That's, that's basically how they operate.

00:27:45.000 Like Biden's not, you know, that's so the idea that you have a Democrat president really do anything about the administrative state.

00:27:50.000 Are you kidding?

00:27:51.000 And that's their base.

00:27:52.000 That's, that's their, that's their whole, the premise of their electing in the first place.

00:27:57.000 We had a story several years ago that was published by Gizmodo that Facebook was censoring conservative news because they had this trending tab and the employees there were basically told, or had this bias, conservative news versus their fake news, so they'd remove them from trending.

00:28:12.000 I remember seeing that.

00:28:13.000 I remember seeing people start getting censored and banned and social media was manipulated. 1.00

00:28:18.000 And then I said, the Republicans are too stupid to solve this problem to save their own candidacies, their own seats. 1.00

00:28:26.000 Now we have this from the New York Post. 1.00

00:28:28.000 Mark Zuckerberg spent $419 million on nonprofits ahead of the 2020 election and got out the Dem vote.

00:28:38.000 And they're really not very grateful for that, I don't think.

00:28:40.000 No.

00:28:41.000 They're, you know, with a combination of antitrust and this, you know, this Francis Haugen-type regulation.

00:28:47.000 I don't, you know, there's a conspiracy theory that she's working with Facebook.

00:28:53.000 That she's a fake whistleblower because she's saying everything Zuckerberg has already said.

00:28:58.000 People need to understand this.

00:28:58.000 Mark Zuckerberg came out and said, please provide us with regulation so we can deal with this.

00:29:03.000 Now all of a sudden a whistleblower comes out, instantly verified on Twitter?

00:29:07.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:29:08.000 And then tomorrow I'll be in Congress.

00:29:10.000 And then Facebook releases a statement and guidelines about how the Internet should be censored.

00:29:15.000 Yeah.

00:29:15.000 Right.

00:29:16.000 No, I mean, they do kind of like, they would rather be in a world where they're in control of regulation.

00:29:20.000 I wouldn't be surprised if there's like some sort of, there's some sort of collusion going on there.

00:29:24.000 But that said, the antitrust stuff is no joke.

00:29:27.000 That stuff is actually going forward and it's not helpful to Zuckerberg.

00:29:31.000 How are they planning that?

00:29:32.000 What are they doing?

00:29:33.000 I mean, there's serious... They're looking at a bipartisan law that's more targeted at Amazon, not allowing you to preference your own products.

00:29:43.000 They're still talking hard about breakup and making Facebook and Instagram and WhatsApp divest.

00:29:49.000 What does that do?

00:29:50.000 I mean, it's bad for Zuckerberg personally, right?

00:29:54.000 Does it do that much?

00:29:55.000 I don't know.

00:29:55.000 They're all still leftist companies, I think.

00:29:57.000 you know it's sort of interesting to to see it you know i mean whenever i talk about like let's make platform access a civil right i get the objection from the libertarians like oh you're using government violated corporations liberty it's like okay but that corporation is colluding with the government to do to violate your liberty and i don't i don't care for corporations are people my friend it's amazing how it's like the democrats became the party of mit romney Those are usually Koch brother libertarians, and a lot of them don't understand how big tech is working with the state in tandem, making it not a private company.

00:30:30.000 There's no argument.

00:30:31.000 I don't believe that they're private companies.

00:30:33.000 Not even from their start, not even from their beginning.

00:30:33.000 There's no way.

00:30:36.000 Not even what they're doing now when it comes to the programs that they're running and the larger participation that they have in our political system.

00:30:44.000 They're not innocent corporations that are a part of the free capitalistic world.

00:30:48.000 They're not.

00:30:49.000 It's very formalist, right?

00:30:52.000 If informal government coercion is okay in the libertarian world, it seems like.

00:30:57.000 Think about the vaccine mandate debate.

00:30:59.000 Right libertarians are like you're violating a business's liberty if you tell them they can't uh enforce a vaccine

00:31:05.000 mandate It's like well like look at a company like southwest who is

00:31:08.000 clearly talking with the byte administration regularly Byte administration's going like we think really strongly

00:31:14.000 that you should impose a vaccine mandate then they do So basically it's like the formal exercise of state power

00:31:21.000 by a state government saying no vaccine mandates Is like the only answer to the informal exercise of state

00:31:27.000 power by the biden administration to persuade

00:31:32.000 These corporations to impose the mandates in the first place

00:31:34.000 I think this is why a lot of the Libertarian Party doesn't like the Mises Caucus, because they're getting serious about it.

00:31:39.000 But the core of the Libertarian Party has always pretty much been, we are not smart enough to recognize the government is in control of these corporations, and therefore the corporations should be free to do what they do, even though it's detrimental to everybody.

00:31:52.000 It's like, yo, libertarians should be against centralized authority regardless of where it comes from.

00:31:57.000 A major corporation can oppress anybody the same as a government.

00:31:59.000 That's a great way to phrase it.

00:32:02.000 Centralized authority is the antithesis of libertarianism.

00:32:04.000 Absolutely.

00:32:05.000 I don't understand how you can be like, a naturally spontaneously formed over 200 years organization of very powerful individuals with massive amounts of wealth and resources controlled in the authoritarian structure is a good thing that should be left alone.

00:32:21.000 However, The same exact thing with a label on it that says government.

00:32:24.000 Now that's where the problem comes in.

00:32:28.000 It's remarkable to me how many of these libertarians are okay with being coerced and forced to walking off the cliff as opposed to, I should say coerced or manipulated into doing it, versus hard-forced.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, that's what I mean by, like, overly formalist, right?

00:32:48.000 It's like they look at, like, is this a formal exercise of government power or not?

00:32:52.000 If it is, bad.

00:32:53.000 If it's not, okay, that's fine.

00:32:55.000 Look, the bigger picture here, in my opinion, is that, I mean, are we really going to have a red wave?

00:32:59.000 I understand, historically, Republicans should be in for a major victory in the House.

00:33:03.000 I understand that, based on the data we're seeing, there's good signs a red wave could happen.

00:33:07.000 But if Mark Zuckerberg is going to dump about half a billion dollars to make sure you don't win, what's he going to do at his own company to make sure you don't win when it costs him nothing?

00:33:18.000 Yeah.

00:33:19.000 I mean, maybe he's not too happy with the end result.

00:33:22.000 I mean, you got to account for that.

00:33:23.000 He may not be stoked on the antitrust thing.

00:33:25.000 That's true.

00:33:26.000 Like, he might not spend this kind of money again.

00:33:26.000 Right?

00:33:28.000 And also, man, I don't know how you fix, like, I think Trump's sort of a unique phenomenon where he drives up turnout on both sides.

00:33:35.000 Like, you know, he's uniquely polarizing.

00:33:37.000 People love him.

00:33:38.000 People hate him.

00:33:40.000 I think you look at the midterms.

00:33:43.000 I think, I don't know.

00:33:44.000 I'm optimistic about 2022.

00:33:45.000 I think we're gonna have a very good midterm election.

00:33:47.000 But is it going to be with people who are going to do something?

00:33:50.000 I mean, I think it's the only thing we can, you know, Congress is never going to really do anything.

00:33:55.000 The question is just stopping Democrats, right?

00:33:57.000 Like, I think people, people underestimate the value of winning the Senate, for example.

00:34:02.000 Like, it really is annoying that we didn't win the Senate.

00:34:05.000 It put us in a position where we're suddenly totally dependent on Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin being flaky enough.

00:34:13.000 And Mitt Romney.

00:34:17.000 I don't like Republicans in Congress that much, but I know that they're the people I can influence.

00:34:22.000 I know I have zero meaningful influence over the Democrats.

00:34:25.000 I'm sick of it, man.

00:34:26.000 I'm not gonna vote for someone who's like, I will hold the Democrats off for two years. 0.99

00:34:31.000 No, screw off.

00:34:32.000 The Democrats are coming out and saying we want to take away all your guns. 0.97

00:34:35.000 Yes, they're saying they want to take away all your guns.

00:34:37.000 Pay attention.

00:34:38.000 All these liberals claiming that's not true.

00:34:39.000 Don't pay attention to the laws they tried passing when they came out and said they wanted to ban all semi-automatic weapons, which is basically every single modern gun.

00:34:45.000 Okay, maybe a little hyperbolic.

00:34:46.000 It's almost every single gun.

00:34:48.000 I guess revolvers and lever action will be okay and bolt action.

00:34:51.000 No, they're really trying to do insane things.

00:34:54.000 And the only reason they're not is because they're going slow about it.

00:34:59.000 Republicans aren't going to do anything.

00:35:00.000 I think that, you know, ultimately, it's still worth, you know, I basically see it as like a defense to offense transition.

00:35:06.000 I still hope, you know, that we can do that.

00:35:09.000 The offense would happen in 2024, retaking the White House.

00:35:12.000 Hopefully with like an executive branch that knows what it's doing.

00:35:15.000 And that's why I'm like, you know, I'm really hoping Trump doesn't run.

00:35:18.000 I really, really hope.

00:35:19.000 Like we need... DeSantis?

00:35:22.000 DeSantis, right?

00:35:23.000 DeSantis is the guy.

00:35:24.000 But I agree because you know what?

00:35:26.000 Ron DeSantis came out and was like, hey, it's Columbus Day.

00:35:29.000 And I was like, that's a little thing, right?

00:35:31.000 But that's a big, big thing in the long run.

00:35:32.000 It's cultural.

00:35:33.000 It matters.

00:35:34.000 Ron DeSantis says we're going to ban vaccine passports.

00:35:39.000 These are big things we can see him actually doing.

00:35:41.000 And so I agree.

00:35:42.000 If there is a Republican who says, I've done these things, I'm doing them and I will do more.

00:35:47.000 I like that.

00:35:47.000 But I'm fairly convinced in 2022, we're going to get Republicans who are going to sit back and say, the best we can do for you is nothing.

00:35:54.000 The best Democrats can do for their constituents is burn the whole place down.

00:35:57.000 Now, the idea of government doing nothing is something that I personally like.

00:36:02.000 I think that should be a motive.

00:36:03.000 But it's not that kind of nothing.

00:36:04.000 I know, I know.

00:36:05.000 We're talking about two different things here because they just placate us and they act and pretend like they're going to be doing something for us or they're going to be making a solid stand here.

00:36:15.000 But let's not pretend at the end of the day when the big money guys come, they're going to bow down, get on their knees and do unforgiving acts for the multinational corporations, no matter how awful it is for their constituents.

00:36:27.000 So I you know the Santas is interesting because he is kind of throwing a wrench into a lot of the narratives and agenda he's the one that really did by himself stand up against the lockdowns stand up against a lot of the mandates a lot of the restrictions and I think if it wasn't for him.

00:36:45.000 A lot of other people would have just followed in line and complied and obeyed.

00:36:50.000 And I think Florida was the first state that said, no, enough is enough.

00:36:53.000 And DeSantis just made a statement also just a few moments ago, talking about the vaccine mandates, where he said, quote, the coercion is just totally wrong.

00:37:02.000 I think it's destroying trust in public health.

00:37:04.000 You're going to end up driving people away.

00:37:07.000 And he's making some good, solid, logical points that I think are deserving to be considered.

00:37:13.000 There's two things.

00:37:15.000 I would love to see Ron DeSantis' presidential run.

00:37:20.000 I don't know if I support him completely, because I've only seen the culture war things that he's done.

00:37:23.000 We've got to see hard policy stuff too.

00:37:27.000 But we're hearing that his wife has cancer.

00:37:29.000 Oh yeah, that's another problem, yeah.

00:37:30.000 And so it may be that he doesn't run.

00:37:33.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:37:34.000 But the other thing too is, what I've been told, and I can't remember who told us this, The reason he's so up to date on the current political crisis and culture war is because of his wife.

00:37:47.000 Because she pays attention, because she follows the news, and she follows the cultural issues, and then they sort of work together, and then it keeps him more informed.

00:37:54.000 I'd have to imagine that a governor is actively trying to maintain fundraising and do all this political paperwork, having a good partner like that, like his wife, helping him stay informed.

00:38:03.000 So someone told us that.

00:38:04.000 They said that she's really, really well-versed on these issues, and that's his edge.

00:38:08.000 Yeah, they're a good team.

00:38:10.000 But, I mean, I give, you know, credit.

00:38:11.000 Like, whenever I've seen him talk about something, like, not only did he do the vaccine mandate stuff, he was one of the first people to get a big tech law passed and signed a, like, anti-big tech censorship law.

00:38:20.000 I think he did—Texas recently did one, too.

00:38:21.000 They knocked him down on that one.

00:38:22.000 They knocked him down in court, but, like, he got it passed, right?

00:38:26.000 Like, that's still impressive.

00:38:27.000 and he understands the salience and importance of the issue.

00:38:30.000 And he was ahead of the curve on that.

00:38:32.000 I just.

00:38:33.000 Trump ain't it.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, like relative, I mean, and then, again, we talked about the cockpit, right?

00:38:38.000 Like, Ron DeSantis is gonna come in and he's not gonna be dependent on his lawyers

00:38:41.000 to tell him what his powers are.

00:38:42.000 He's gonna be able to read, he's gonna be able to understand it himself

00:38:46.000 and push the limits.

00:38:47.000 That's why I think Obama was so effective in so many ways is because Obama was a lawyer, right?

00:38:52.000 And a constitutional lawyer.

00:38:53.000 So he understood his office he understood exactly what where he could push when he

00:38:58.000 needed to pull back.

00:39:00.000 And as a result, like, you know, not I don't mean effective in terms of like moral virtue but merely effective in terms of achieving democrat policy.

00:39:06.000 I don't want a president who will be like a candidate of owning the libs. 0.95

00:39:10.000 I want to see some legitimate policies.

00:39:12.000 But I imagine he's going to be for many of the policies I think would probably be good.

00:39:14.000 I imagine he'd do school choice and things like that.

00:39:17.000 I'd be interested to see his foreign policy though because I think that'll be big.

00:39:20.000 And one of my concerns is that we get a rising star who's culture war freedom side.

00:39:25.000 But then he turns out to still just to be pro-war establishment in the long run.

00:39:30.000 Shoot, man.

00:39:31.000 You know, at this point, I just, I really don't want to lose the culture war anymore. 0.99

00:39:34.000 It's really, it really is annoying.

00:39:36.000 You know, if I can't, you know, I feel like we have had a pretty big sea change in the Republican Party on foreign policy, thanks to Trump in a lot of ways.

00:39:42.000 And I'm very grateful to the former president for that.

00:39:46.000 But, you know, I really, you know, I think even if DeSantis isn't perfect on foreign policy, like, or sorry.

00:39:53.000 Culture war is a game that no one can win.

00:39:56.000 Either we stop playing or we're all gonna lose.

00:39:59.000 Technically, you know, we lose in the way where it's a net negative across the board, but the issue is lose by how much?

00:40:05.000 How do you get your opponents to come into this negotiating table, right?

00:40:10.000 The problem is with like the Joe Rogan thing.

00:40:13.000 Sanjay Gupta wrote this essay, which is ridiculous, and he's saying like, I was warned Joe Rogan's a bad faith actor.

00:40:19.000 Like, listen, We're gonna I want to save the Sanjay Gupta stuff, but I'll just say this Sanjay Gupta says in his essay He's never had a conversation with someone that's oh That was three hours or longer and that to me was like getting smacked in the face with a baseball bat like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Sanjay Gupta never had a conversation with someone over three hours.

00:40:39.000 How old is this guy?

00:40:40.000 Is he not married?

00:40:43.000 It was crazy for me to hear this, but these people live in a world where they don't communicate.

00:40:47.000 They just get their news from the TV.

00:40:49.000 I'm like my whole life.

00:40:51.000 I'm sitting around with my friends in Chicago playing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic for like four or five hours.

00:40:55.000 We're just talking about space time and they were stoned out of their minds.

00:40:58.000 But like these conversations were crazy and in depth and politics and we'd be fact checking things.

00:41:03.000 We're just having fun, exploring ideas.

00:41:05.000 He's never done that.

00:41:06.000 Neurosurgeon, writer, medical reporter.

00:41:08.000 He's got his head in the books.

00:41:09.000 He's been in the books probably his whole life.

00:41:11.000 Yeah, he's a try-hard.

00:41:12.000 He's wrapped up in this different world.

00:41:14.000 Now, I want to pull up this story, because I'll tell you this.

00:41:16.000 With the Zuckerberg thing, I agree with you.

00:41:21.000 We need to win the culture war.

00:41:22.000 And I will say this.

00:41:24.000 One of the reasons I'd probably just outright vote for Renasantis is that he went after big tech in any way.

00:41:29.000 We have this story.

00:41:31.000 If you head over to Instagram and take a look at Mr. LukeWeAreChange, that's his Instagram handle is at LukeWeAreChange.

00:41:38.000 If you try to follow him, and please do, you may be greeted with this message.

00:41:43.000 It says, Are you sure you want to follow LukeWeAreChange?

00:41:47.000 This account has repeatedly posted false information that was reviewed by independent fact checkers or went against our community guidelines.

00:41:55.000 I unfollowed Luke and followed him back and I got that message.

00:42:00.000 Yeah, prove it you SLBs, what fake news. 1.00

00:42:04.000 I post highly sophisticated, intelligent, thought-provoking memes with like 3D, 4D level

00:42:11.000 chess.

00:42:12.000 I mean, can you pull up my, just some of the things I post on there, especially the George

00:42:16.000 W. Bush one, because if they go after that one, they're admitting that they're a part

00:42:21.000 of wrong think because of the Pfizer one up there.

00:42:24.000 But all I post, right, all I post is like segments from here, my shirts and memes.

00:42:32.000 I love to post memes about curious things that make people critically think about the issues.

00:42:40.000 It's not even facts!

00:42:44.000 Well, that's a shirt.

00:42:44.000 No, that's a real shirt.

00:42:47.000 And I have one shirt that's censored and it's scribbled that says tax this D. And I have another shirt that's not censored.

00:42:56.000 And you can get that on the thebestpoliticalshows.com, but I can't say it here.

00:43:00.000 But I mean, look what I post.

00:43:01.000 I post stuff like Joe Biden leaving office in 2024.

00:43:05.000 How can you fact check that?

00:43:07.000 How can you fact check?

00:43:08.000 Do you have a magic time machine that you can say, he's definitely lying?

00:43:12.000 This needs to be fact checked.

00:43:14.000 Number one, what's the fact checks?

00:43:16.000 Tell me what I got wrong through these memes.

00:43:16.000 Tell me.

00:43:20.000 It's not Joe Biden!

00:43:22.000 No, no, no, stop.

00:43:23.000 Luke, you are fake news.

00:43:24.000 Don't you dare. 1.00

00:43:25.000 Don't you dare, you son of a gun. 0.98

00:43:26.000 This photo is not Joe Biden. 0.99

00:43:28.000 Here we go.

00:43:29.000 It is an old man in front of a burning car and it is not Joe Biden.

00:43:32.000 How do you know Joe Biden's not gonna look like that in two and three years?

00:43:36.000 I get it, I get it.

00:43:37.000 So again, and then another thing, who's fact-checking me?

00:43:41.000 Let's call a spade a spade here.

00:43:44.000 Put out your name, what organization, who's behind it, and what exactly do you have problems with with posts like this?

00:43:51.000 Tell me right now, and they won't.

00:43:53.000 We had James O'Keefe on, and we were talking about Stanford.

00:43:56.000 Put out a study claiming that James O'Keefe Me, Tim Poole, Sidney Powell and Lin Wood and some other people were like the biggest purveyors of voter misinformation or whatever.

00:44:10.000 And I'm like, what did James tweet about anything?

00:44:14.000 He posts Veritas stories, where they literally have undercover things on other people.

00:44:20.000 And what do I post on Twitter?

00:44:22.000 I think I posted a picture of a hairless rabbit once.

00:44:25.000 I post stories, all of it's NewsGuard certified.

00:44:28.000 And the best part is, Trump supporters got extremely mad at me for saying there was no widespread voter fraud.

00:44:35.000 The entire time I've been saying that.

00:44:37.000 I even said it to Steve Bannon when he came on the show.

00:44:39.000 I was like, Ben, I disagree.

00:44:41.000 I think we look at that story from Mark Zuckerberg.

00:44:43.000 You take a look at the laws being changed.

00:44:45.000 I think this is, you know, it's pulling people off off base because the Democrats have excellent ground game and they put out fake news for some reason.

00:44:54.000 And then, of course, people are like, well, if Stanford said it, it must be true, and they put it on Wikipedia, and then it becomes facts.

00:45:00.000 Or CNN telling everyone that it's, you know, horse dewormer.

00:45:04.000 There's so many lies by the mainstream media.

00:45:06.000 And, you know, Anderson Cooper, all these other, you know, professional fake news spreaders, all these professional propagandists, they get to do whatever they want on these big tech social media companies.

00:45:16.000 But also, I was criticizing Instagram and Facebook really hard over the mental health issues a couple days ago.

00:45:22.000 Specifically also on this show, and I was making my own videos about this on my own YouTube channel.

00:45:27.000 I was going after them hard, detailing the psychological experiments that they've done on unsuspecting users.

00:45:34.000 So this seems more vindictive than anything else, because you look at the posts I make. 0.99

00:45:37.000 They're silly. 1.00

00:45:38.000 They're ridiculous. 1.00

00:45:39.000 They're over the top. 1.00

00:45:41.000 I told people, I don't even care. 0.99

00:45:43.000 I'm just going to post ridiculous stuff on Instagram.

00:45:45.000 If it gets taken down, it gets taken down.

00:45:47.000 And a couple days ago... Tim's laughing.

00:45:50.000 It's a Dave Chappelle one!

00:45:52.000 Yeah, it's real!

00:45:55.000 These memes... Can you fact check these?

00:45:57.000 For those that are listening, it says, NPR accuses Dave Chappelle of using white privilege, and then below it is Dave Chappelle as Clayton Bigsby, the black white supremacist, and it says, good for nothing tricksters.

00:46:09.000 He's blind in that bottom picture. 0.95

00:46:10.000 He doesn't realize he's black. 0.96

00:46:11.000 Well, this is from his own skit where he was pretending to be a black KKK member. 0.98

00:46:18.000 And a racist against black people who is black himself, but didn't know because he was blind. 0.88

00:46:22.000 And the KKK handed him around and he was good friends with them. 0.88

00:46:26.000 And they were like, yeah, we're just not going to tell them because this is pretty funny.

00:46:29.000 A couple of weeks ago, I posted on September 16th, hey, because something weird happened.

00:46:34.000 I was doing OK on my Instagram before I came here on this show.

00:46:38.000 My numbers were rising pretty well, and I was getting a lot of interaction.

00:46:41.000 I was getting a lot of views.

00:46:42.000 And then out of nowhere, it stopped.

00:46:43.000 And I was getting a one tenth of my engagement.

00:46:46.000 And then for weeks, it was the same.

00:46:48.000 And I'm like, what's happening here?

00:46:48.000 110th.

00:46:50.000 So I put a post.

00:46:51.000 Hey, this is a test.

00:46:52.000 Instagram has been limiting our posts to more than 10% of our followers.

00:46:58.000 If you see this, click like and tell me that you see this in your timeline.

00:47:01.000 They fact check it.

00:47:02.000 They said this is fake news.

00:47:04.000 It's incorrect.

00:47:05.000 Even though the analytics show 910th Drop in audience interaction suddenly without me changing anything or changing any way that I post or interact with audience members So they're even fact-checking saying that it's false that they're limiting me to my audience Which they clearly are through the analytics through the numbers And it's this is the world that we're living in right now where memes like this, you know memes memes that again

00:47:33.000 I'm not making any stance here.

00:47:35.000 I'm not telling people what to do here.

00:47:37.000 I'm just trying to make people laugh and think a little bit and for them to target. 0.98

00:47:42.000 This is ridiculous and absolutely a sham huge injustice and ridiculous to say the least just as ridiculous as the memes. 0.83

00:47:51.000 I mean the George W Bush one that I posted we don't have to show it here, but but if they flag that one that means that they're committing wrong think. 0.95

00:47:59.000 That's the level of sophistication of meme warfare that we have going on here that, again, is extremely important.

00:48:08.000 I remember first coming on the show, I said memes are going to be the thing that are going to change the landscape of our political dichotomy.

00:48:15.000 I really do truly believe in them and I think that's why they're going after satire now, which I said, you know, they're going to figure out how to go after satire.

00:48:22.000 I think this is the first step in that direction.

00:48:24.000 They've been doing this.

00:48:26.000 This is why they had to ban the Donald.

00:48:27.000 Because memes got Trump elected.

00:48:31.000 Maybe not like the core of his platform, but it gave him the bump he needed.

00:48:36.000 Meme magic, man.

00:48:37.000 Have you seen that documentary on meme magic?

00:48:39.000 No.

00:48:40.000 It's like a YouTube documentary somebody made, but it's really, really interesting how they go through the history of CAC, and the frog, and Pepe, and the weird stuff on 4chan, and they were like, meme magic, man!

00:48:51.000 But whether or not you believe in magic, When you have people who have found a way to have fun and build community, and then all of a sudden everyone's laughing with each other and sharing jokes, that's going to help that person out.

00:49:04.000 And I'm not even promoting anything.

00:49:06.000 I'm not even telling people what to do. 1.00

00:49:08.000 I'm just saying, hey, this is a stupid, ridiculous government policy. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Let's laugh about it. 1.00

00:49:13.000 That's it.

00:49:14.000 I'm not even saying do this or get involved or don't do this.

00:49:18.000 I'm not even doing any of that on Instagram.

00:49:20.000 So my response to this is, you know, family friendly show.

00:49:26.000 Screw you Instagram.

00:49:28.000 Everyone follow me. 0.78

00:49:31.000 Just in case they take me down, go check out enoughofcensorship.com, which is a link to my email list, which makes me uncensorable no matter what happens.

00:49:40.000 So that's my response, my official statement to Instagram or anybody asking about this story.

00:49:45.000 That's officially what I got to say. 0.94

00:49:47.000 Screw you, Instagram.

00:49:48.000 Let's make sure that this policy doesn't work. 1.00

00:49:51.000 It's ridiculous. 0.79

00:49:52.000 And I want to thank the people who are sending me this, because I wouldn't have noticed. 0.88

00:49:57.000 No one told me this.

00:49:58.000 I never got a warning.

00:49:59.000 I never got a notification.

00:50:01.000 They didn't tell me anything.

00:50:02.000 And just sporadically, I just see my viewership go down within the last few weeks.

00:50:06.000 And it's just weird and strange that we're living in this world where you could be convicted of wrong-think and then have your access to... Not even know.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, not even know, but also have your access to people that are your friends and are part of your community taken away from you.

00:50:22.000 Just because some fact checker whoever that random mysterious person is decided that he doesn't like your humor It's almost like this should be against the law.

00:50:30.000 Okay, that would be really what I'm thinking of This is like them making an editorial claim on your content be standing behind it like a platform or like a publisher rather Which we I had a long conversation about section 230 last night and about editing section 230 basically fixing it so that Maybe companies that make editorial claims like, this account is responsible for X, then become considered publishing news.

00:50:53.000 But we don't even have to argue that!

00:50:56.000 Hold on.

00:50:56.000 Will, take it away.

00:50:57.000 So like, I actually, you know, there's two parts of it, right?

00:51:01.000 There's the making the weird little editorial claim about you, Luke, right?

00:51:05.000 Which is the most hilarious thing because it's like, it either is fake or it violates our community guidelines.

00:51:09.000 We're not going to tell you which one, like, you know, lawyers would laugh at that, right? 1.00

00:51:13.000 It's stupid. 1.00

00:51:14.000 And then there's the actual throttling. 1.00

00:51:15.000 Now, if it weren't for the throttling, I think this, if anything, would make you more popular. 0.92

00:51:19.000 Because it's such an obviously ridiculous way to try and indict someone.

00:51:22.000 They've said some things that are false based on someone saying they were false.

00:51:25.000 We're not going to tell you what was false, who determined it.

00:51:28.000 It would be BS.

00:51:29.000 It's the throttling that's the problem.

00:51:31.000 And so it's like those Twitter notifications when they put them on.

00:51:34.000 I don't think those are a big problem.

00:51:36.000 It's the algorithmic throttling that is really wrong.

00:51:39.000 You know, it's hard to say anything about the, you know, when they make these statements, they are speaking, right?

00:51:44.000 And I think that they do have a First Amendment right to speak.

00:51:47.000 If they want to put stuff at the bottom of my tweets, that's their right.

00:51:50.000 If they're constraining my ability to reach my audience, then they're censoring.

00:51:54.000 And that's different.

00:51:55.000 And I don't think they have a guaranteed First Amendment right to censor people.

00:51:58.000 Does the First Amendment check out in private companies like this, though?

00:52:02.000 So the First Amendment, this is actually an interesting area of the law.

00:52:06.000 The question is, can a state or a government give additional First Amendment rights

00:52:12.000 or additional speech rights to their citizens on private platforms?

00:52:16.000 And the answer to that, the case that's closest, is a case about, it's called Pre-New York Shopping Center.

00:52:23.000 It's based on a California question about whether people had the right to petition

00:52:26.000 in shopping malls, basically.

00:52:28.000 Like there was a state law in California that said, or a California Supreme Court decision that said,

00:52:33.000 our citizens have the right to petition in shopping malls as a First Amendment right

00:52:37.000 under our California Constitution.

00:52:39.000 And the shopping mall owner's like, but that's a violation of my First Amendment rights.

00:52:42.000 Like I don't wanna be, I have a freedom of association, right?

00:52:44.000 I don't wanna be associated with this random petitioner.

00:52:48.000 It's also free speech, right?

00:52:50.000 I have the right to censor, like et cetera.

00:52:52.000 And the Supreme Court's like, no, no you don't.

00:52:54.000 No one's associating you to speech.

00:52:56.000 You have the ability to say what you wanna say.

00:52:58.000 And as a result, your speech rights aren't implicated.

00:53:02.000 So it's perfectly acceptable for a state to give private consumers, private individuals

00:53:08.000 the right to petition on your property.

00:53:09.000 I think, you're not performing any editorial function.

00:53:12.000 Nobody thinks you are.

00:53:13.000 So Facebook and Twitter are in the same position.

00:53:15.000 They're not performing an equal editorial function.

00:53:17.000 They have 7 million people.

00:53:19.000 I think we need to... I mentioned this to James O'Keefe on Wikipedia.

00:53:25.000 The article about Project Veritas is just the most insane garbled lies.

00:53:29.000 Far-right disinformation organization.

00:53:32.000 And I said to him, I was like, James, what does it say on top of the article?

00:53:34.000 It says, from Wikipedia.

00:53:36.000 It doesn't say from, you know, cow, you know, finger 93.

00:53:40.000 It doesn't say it's from, you know, Ian the cow fingerer 97.

00:53:45.000 It says it's from Wikipedia.

00:53:48.000 And if Wikipedia is taking the byline on this one, aren't they responsible for that speech presented on that platform?

00:53:54.000 Another thing to really kind of entertain here is one of the things that made the internet so amazing, so wonderful, was the free access to whoever you wanted to follow.

00:54:02.000 You followed someone, you saw their content.

00:54:04.000 It was incredible.

00:54:05.000 It was amazing.

00:54:06.000 We don't have that anymore.

00:54:07.000 You follow someone, you may see their stuff, you may not see their stuff, There's a carefully curated algorithm that has a long-term psychological negative effects on the population that is rising suicide levels, that is rising self-hurt incidences, that is rising levels of depression, that is rising the levels of psychological disorders.

00:54:27.000 And this is because now they're carefully curating what information you get to hear and not hear.

00:54:33.000 I mean, and that decision should be up to a human being saying, I want to follow him.

00:54:38.000 I want to see what he posts.

00:54:39.000 If you're not following them, you shouldn't be sent stuff that you don't want to see.

00:54:44.000 But right now, if you look at Instagram, a lot of the stuff is forced on your newsfeed.

00:54:48.000 You look at the Facebook newsfeed.

00:54:51.000 You look at Twitter.

00:54:52.000 Instagram now says, like, these three posts are recent.

00:54:56.000 After that, I'm scrolling and it's random.

00:54:58.000 And I'm like, wait, I don't follow these people.

00:54:59.000 And then you've got to click see older posts to actually get the people you follow now.

00:55:03.000 So this is sinister on so many different levels because people actively want to follow me, want to find my content.

00:55:10.000 They're denied that by using this platform.

00:55:13.000 So that's another level of interacting, of intervening in something that was free, was awesome, gave people what they wanted because people were sick of being lectured to, people were sick of being lied to, people were sick of just being force-fed nonsense.

00:55:29.000 Now we're back to the day and age where they're force-fed nonsense every single day, while restricting the small and independent voices that made them as popular as they are.

00:55:37.000 Regarding the shopping mall metaphor, would the shopping mall then be allowed to put up a sign, like the petitioners over there, the shopping mall have a sign that says, petitioners that way, lying about it?

00:55:46.000 Could they do that?

00:55:47.000 And could they have a sign that said, Liar pointing at the petitioners?

00:55:51.000 The latter, sure.

00:55:53.000 That's a speech right.

00:55:55.000 Again, they're on their own property. 0.99

00:55:56.000 They have the right to speak and say these people are lunatics who are going to hell. 0.99

00:56:00.000 Who knows, right? 0.79

00:56:02.000 But on the first one, deceiving then that might be thwarting the underlying right to speak, which is a little different.

00:56:09.000 So you could argue that changing the algorithm without their knowledge is a form of deceit?

00:56:14.000 Right, I think that you could.

00:56:15.000 I think that it poses a very interesting question about whether or not a state could itself impose kind of regulations on the algorithm.

00:56:23.000 It's trickier because that's a little closer speech, like you're forcing them to organize the information that appears on the feed in a certain way.

00:56:29.000 Or what would be nice is if you could force them to show at least how they're organizing it by displaying the algorithmic code.

00:56:34.000 Sure.

00:56:36.000 Is there an argument to make here about the manipulation of the newsfeed that is creating self-harm and psychological disorders?

00:56:42.000 Because there are medical studies that are showing that, you know, if you show certain images, you do have a certain psychological effect on a human being.

00:56:50.000 And I think there's a lot of correlation with social media use and, you know, depression, suicide, everything that I talked about before.

00:56:56.000 Is there even some kind of room in court to maneuver to say this social media caused actual real life harm?

00:57:03.000 Well, I mean you have that you you can't one there's you can't prohibit you can't force people to speak right that's part part of the first amendment is that you don't have the you don't have you can't force people that's compelled speech that's also a first amendment violation so that's part one um part two is that you know there are specific categories of the law that are where speech is unlawful defamation right yeah um so is this considered defamation What is what considered defamation?

00:57:31.000 Them saying I spread fake news.

00:57:34.000 Without any examples, without any... I mean, it has to be provably false, right?

00:57:40.000 And you have to prove, under current law, you have to prove actual malice, right?

00:57:44.000 Which means that they're knowingly lying.

00:57:45.000 I would love a jury to see my memes.

00:57:47.000 I would love it.

00:57:49.000 But then they say it might violate our community guidelines.

00:57:51.000 Which community guidelines?

00:57:52.000 Well, then they can look at their entire terms of service and be like, aha, this was inflammatory.

00:58:00.000 I'm sure they would say that wasn't actually Joe Biden on the meme that said, this is Joe Biden.

00:58:04.000 How do you know?

00:58:06.000 There's not 2024.

00:58:07.000 Because the jury will agree and be like, yeah, that's not Joe Biden.

00:58:10.000 And then they'll say, C.R., our statement was true.

00:58:12.000 He said it was Joe Biden.

00:58:14.000 Whether or not someone understands it's a joke or not is not on us when we say some people won't get it.

00:58:20.000 So here's the thing, the reason that statement that they preview you, they say you've posted fake news or false news as determined by independent fact checkers, and or you violated community guidelines, not specifying how it's fake, what it is, or what news, that's lawyered, right?

00:58:37.000 Because that's vague.

00:58:38.000 It is a very, very vague criticism.

00:58:41.000 It literally could go either way.

00:58:42.000 It doesn't even actually accuse you necessarily of having put out anything fake.

00:58:46.000 So as a result, like when you make a really vague lawyered statement like that, it's almost impossible to prove falsity.

00:58:54.000 Got it.

00:58:54.000 And so that's that would which is a necessary element of any defamation claim.

00:58:57.000 I want to talk to you guys about why independent media is so important and why these these stories here are so just.

00:59:03.000 So awful.

00:59:03.000 The censorship, what they did to Crowder.

00:59:06.000 I think, you know, what happened with Crowder getting suspended and getting a strike is particularly worrisome, and it's just another grain of sand in the heap.

00:59:12.000 And we'll consider this to be a semi-terrible segue into the story about Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta.

00:59:18.000 But Joe Rogan sits down with Sanjay Gupta of CNN and refuses to let Sanjay Gupta change the subject.

00:59:25.000 He says, why did your network lie?

00:59:28.000 about what the medication i was taking was they said it was horse dewormer and joe's like a doctor prescribed it to me and sanjay gupta is like you're right you're right okay they shouldn't have said it that's the power of independent media and joe rogan may be on spotify whatever but that's why they don't like it that's why they censor it Now, I really want to point something out, though.

00:59:49.000 In this article from CNN.com, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, why Joe Rogan and I sat down and talked for more than three hours, there are two very important things that give you insight into the minds of the cult.

01:00:01.000 And boy, when I read you these things, will you realize it's a cult.

01:00:04.000 First and foremost, he says, I don't think I ever had a conversation that long with anyone.

01:00:11.000 Seriously, think about that.

01:00:13.000 We sat in a windowless podcast booth with two sets of headphones and microphones, and a few feet between us, not a single interruption, no cell phones, no distractions, no bathroom breaks.

01:00:22.000 Show of hands, or actually, let's go, Will, have you ever had a conversation with someone that was at least three hours?

01:00:27.000 Yeah I mean if you know with breaks in between but yes like I'd say you know I mean it's the kind of thing where Converse you know you've been on this show before right?

01:00:35.000 I have been on the show we've never gone three hours though.

01:00:37.000 We do way more than that.

01:00:38.000 Yeah we do.

01:00:39.000 Have we?

01:00:39.000 Have we gone three hours?

01:00:40.000 Well it's two and then when you get here at 7 20 Oh, that's a fair point.

01:00:46.000 And then we start the show at 8, we end at 10.

01:00:47.000 Yeah, we've definitely talked.

01:00:48.000 Okay, so we have talked for more than three hours.

01:00:51.000 But even with friends throughout your life?

01:00:53.000 One-on-one.

01:00:54.000 You've had conversations before?

01:00:55.000 Yeah, say you're in a car ride with somebody, right?

01:00:57.000 A long car ride.

01:00:58.000 You'll be talking with them over the course of a lengthy period of time.

01:01:01.000 Yes, yes, road trips.

01:01:02.000 But hold on, hold on.

01:01:02.000 Luke, have you had a conversation?

01:01:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:04.000 Of course.

01:01:05.000 Lydia?

01:01:06.000 Yeah, many, many, many, many times.

01:01:08.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:01:08.000 Especially like the ones they have face-to-face, going at it for three plus hours.

01:01:12.000 Yes.

01:01:13.000 I would imagine Ian's the one person in the room who's probably had the longest conversation with people out of any of us.

01:01:17.000 Because you seem the kind of guy who's going to sit there and really just like hang out with people in a sauna.

01:01:21.000 And he was pre-cell phone.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:23.000 I went to theater school.

01:01:24.000 It's all about communication.

01:01:25.000 This is a guy who is telling you, think about that.

01:01:28.000 He's never had a conversation that was three hours.

01:01:32.000 Look, maybe it's just me.

01:01:33.000 Maybe most people really don't interact with humans that much.

01:01:37.000 I just, that's shocking to me.

01:01:39.000 And so I see that and I'm like, this is a guy who doesn't actually communicate with people.

01:01:43.000 He sits in a room, reads a book and watches a TV and doesn't talk to other people.

01:01:48.000 But here is, you ready for this one?

01:01:50.000 The best part.

01:01:52.000 He says, okay, When I told Joe early in the podcast that I didn't agree with his apparent views on vaccines against COVID, I've remarked that in many things in between, part of me thought the MMA former taekwondo champion might hurtle himself across the table and throttle my neck.

01:02:09.000 But instead, he smiled and off we went.

01:02:12.000 Yeah, that's a weird bias that you have.

01:02:15.000 Here's a guy.

01:02:16.000 He is the chief medical correspondent for CNN, the most trusted name in the news, who has never had a conversation with someone that lasted at least three hours and genuinely feared Joe Rogan would physically assault him in a podcast studio over his opinions. 0.98

01:02:34.000 That's pathetic. 0.96

01:02:34.000 When he could depose him. 0.96

01:02:35.000 I mean, basically, that's what this is.

01:02:38.000 Or he's lying.

01:02:39.000 He's lying.

01:02:40.000 You know, it's something interesting, like, people, there's certain people, and there's only a few areas where, like, it's one thing to have a conversation with someone over a long period of time.

01:02:49.000 It's another to, like, be able to be interrogated, right?

01:02:53.000 And by that I mean, like, to be asked a continuous sequence of questions to examine what you think in your position on something.

01:02:59.000 That happens in law school, right?

01:03:00.000 If you're the subject of a Socratic questioning from a professor.

01:03:04.000 That'll happen in debate rounds, like there's cross-examination that takes a period, like there's other things.

01:03:10.000 But there's a lot of people, even if they're very smart and they've gone through very high-level, you know, academia or like medical school or something, will have never actually been in a position where they were subject to like a sustained line of questioning about their beliefs.

01:03:25.000 And I think that's Sanjay, if anything, I think that's probably what he's expressing this like, I was not ready.

01:03:30.000 This is like the first time I've ever been interrogated.

01:03:33.000 Like, I mean, I don't mean interrogate like with like law enforcement, but just like questioned about a position for this length of a period of time.

01:03:40.000 And, and it's the sort of, you know, regret kicking in because he got owned, right?

01:03:45.000 Like he got revealed that he had to get up and basically he had to concede to sound like a reasonable person that yes, in fact, CNN had done wrong here.

01:03:53.000 Um, And then CNN is now so furious about it that they're putting him back on the show to, like, justify.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, I just got a request.

01:04:00.000 I would greatly appreciate it, Joe, if you could just take some money, drop it in a retainer for some good law firm, and sue CNN.

01:04:11.000 Don Lemon has come out, denied CNN lied about Joe Rogan's COVID treatment after claiming the podcaster took horse dewormer.

01:04:19.000 No joke, they doubled down on the fact that multiple hosts lied.

01:04:25.000 Joe Rogan sat there in front of Sanjay Gupta and said, a doctor prescribing medication.

01:04:30.000 Sanjay said, yes, they shouldn't have said that.

01:04:32.000 Then when Sanjay Gupta goes on with Don Lemon, he does not correct Don Lemon when Don says, no, no, no, listen, listen, it is horse dewormer.

01:04:41.000 Don Lemon should go on Joe Rogan.

01:04:43.000 Don't be a little whiny.

01:04:44.000 He never will.

01:04:45.000 Of course not.

01:04:46.000 He couldn't sustain that.

01:04:47.000 Sanjay Gupta is smarter than Don Lemon.

01:04:50.000 This is why this was so fascinating.

01:04:52.000 This is why this video went so viral.

01:04:53.000 Because this was finally someone, a part of the establishment, being sat down and talked to like a regular human being, without any teleprompters, without any scripts, without any agenda.

01:05:03.000 And he stuttered and he messed up and he tried to get away from the subject and Joe was right on him and he stumbled.

01:05:09.000 Someone wrote a very funny comment under this entire story saying, it's a very strange world when an MMA commentator stumps a medical doctor on the topic of medicine.

01:05:20.000 And let's be honest here, Joe Rogan was absolutely right to call out Sanjay Gupta, the chief medical advisor of CNN, why he didn't intervene, step up, Or at least correct the record when CNN was blatantly ... lying about him and spreading dangerous medical ... disinformation that would have real-life consequences that ... probably did have real-life consequences let's just be ... honest here about this particular topic.

01:05:46.000 Didn't have an answer didn't he tried to change the topic.

01:05:49.000 He was like, yeah, maybe not.

01:05:51.000 I want to talk about this and Joe goes, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:05:54.000 Let's get to this issue because this is an important issue.

01:05:57.000 And then Sanjay admitted that the main reason he went on this show was because he was trying to get Joe to get vaccinated.

01:06:03.000 Now, this is another layer to this that we need to kind of unravel here because he admitted, I want Joe to get vaccinated.

01:06:08.000 That's why I went on the show.

01:06:09.000 That's his explanation to all of his establishment buddies that are like, what the hell did you do?

01:06:15.000 You let the mask off your face.

01:06:17.000 You showed us the true reality of being stumped by him, and he's saying, no, no, no, I just wanted him to get vaccinated.

01:06:23.000 Why?

01:06:23.000 The man just went through COVID.

01:06:25.000 He has natural immunity.

01:06:27.000 There's many scientific studies and preliminary findings that are showing that natural immunity could last a lifetime.

01:06:34.000 Why still on top of that are you telling him to get vaccinated?

01:06:39.000 It makes absolutely no point and there have been a number of complications and a number of medical professionals saying if you do have strong antibodies and natural immunity you might have complications from the vaccine.

01:06:50.000 So again not a medical doctor not telling people what to do here but Sanjay Gupta admittedly came into this already trying to push bogus information that that wasn't helpful at all and and Joe Rogan He just blatantly called him out on all of his bullcrap, and he did not have an answer to it at all.

01:07:10.000 I got a lot of respect for Sanjay for going on there, wanting to go on there, doing it, and just pushing it.

01:07:16.000 He tweeted it out, he wasn't trying to hide from it.

01:07:18.000 And they talked about, like Sanjay used to be very anti-marijuana, and then started to realize when he started to see the studies, he's a books guy, he's in the books all the time, when he sees the evidence, He changed his position.

01:07:28.000 He realized that kids that were having like tremors and... I remember that a few years ago.

01:07:31.000 This was a long time ago when marijuana was still a taboo thing where they weren't talking about the benefits of THC and CBD.

01:07:37.000 He went to Amsterdam and interviewed small children and actually I was surprised by his work at that time.

01:07:43.000 So it's very interesting that you're bringing this up and you do bring up a good point that at least he did go on and at least we saw the mask fall off slip for a little bit.

01:07:54.000 But he's going to get punished.

01:07:55.000 He's already on an apology tour all over CNN saying, yeah, you guys were right.

01:08:00.000 You guys were right.

01:08:01.000 When in reality, no, they weren't.

01:08:03.000 They absolutely weren't.

01:08:04.000 Let's be honest here.

01:08:05.000 To again, double down and say, no, this was a medicine for horses.

01:08:09.000 Remember when that CNN host cannibalized a human? 1.00

01:08:09.000 Bull crap. 1.00

01:08:13.000 Yeah, that's on YouTube, by the way. 0.99

01:08:15.000 That's fine for YouTube.

01:08:15.000 You mean the cannibal Reza Aslan, right?

01:08:18.000 Who it's accurate to describe as a cannibal because it's accurate. 1.00

01:08:20.000 Who went crazy afterwards? He did. He did. My mind. So Reza Aslan was hosting this show on on CNN

01:08:28.000 And my understanding is before the show. He was like relatively normal

01:08:32.000 He was a religious scholar and I know people who know him like I've I've I have friends of mine who know him

01:08:37.000 and I I wonder if that that episode where he ate human brain. 0.69

01:08:42.000 It was a small piece of charred human brain After that, it's like he's just insane.

01:08:48.000 The things he posts on Twitter, like he's aggravated.

01:08:51.000 I wonder if he got like some kind of shakes from eating human brain.

01:08:54.000 It's like pre-ed diseases, man.

01:08:55.000 Yeah, protein folds. 0.75

01:08:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:58.000 And also the stress of being called a cannibal over and over. 0.85

01:09:00.000 He is a cannibal. 0.94

01:09:02.000 Was a cannibal. 0.96

01:09:03.000 Is he still practicing? 0.99

01:09:04.000 It doesn't matter if you kill someone. 0.99

01:09:06.000 Once a cannibal, always a cannibal. 0.99

01:09:07.000 That's hardcore. 0.98

01:09:09.000 If you choose to kill someone, you're a murderer, right? 0.93

01:09:09.000 No, it is though. 0.93

01:09:11.000 Well, if you used to be a soccer player and now you're not, you're not still a soccer player.

01:09:16.000 There's ways to look at it, because if you used to murder and now you don't, you're still considered a murderer. 0.83

01:09:20.000 If you eat human, you are a cannibal.

01:09:20.000 Exactly.

01:09:24.000 It's like, well, but to be fair, it was a long time ago.

01:09:26.000 I think to be a cannibal means you're practicing cannibalism.

01:09:26.000 So?

01:09:30.000 I gotta be honest, man.

01:09:31.000 I gotta be honest.

01:09:32.000 If you played soccer in college and then you stopped playing, I'd still say it's fair to say you're a soccer player.

01:09:38.000 Like, you're gonna know all about it, you're gonna have retained skills, and you'll be able to pick it up more than anyone else will be able to.

01:09:44.000 I would say I was a soccer player.

01:09:45.000 If I don't play at all anymore, I was.

01:09:47.000 So, that stress of Ben being like, you're a cannibal, and he's like, dude, I did it once.

01:09:52.000 And they're like, you're a cannibal.

01:09:55.000 That's like you never want to be in that.

01:10:00.000 It's like with murder.

01:10:02.000 If you choose to kill a person, you're a murderer.

01:10:05.000 And it's like, yeah, but that was a long time ago.

01:10:07.000 And I only did it one time.

01:10:08.000 It's like, I don't care. 0.99

01:10:09.000 Like you're a murderer. 0.98

01:10:10.000 I just committed one murder. 0.98

01:10:11.000 Yeah, just one.

01:10:14.000 Some people do.

01:10:15.000 Sanjay also made a very interesting point that a lot of people are talking about right now when he was on the Joe Rogan podcast, because he admitted That the aim on the show, when he was talking to Joe Rogan, that the aim of vaccinating children isn't to protect them, it's to, quote, slow the spread and protect adults around them.

01:10:31.000 And if that's the official justification, if that's the official science of what doctors and CNN and the establishment medical professionals are standing on, they're pretty much putting young people at risk for the benefit of the old. 0.95

01:10:43.000 And if that's happening in a society, that's a clear sign of a decaying society.

01:10:47.000 Yes, Luke, but clearly Dr. Sanjay Gupta is not a smart person.

01:10:51.000 But that's his own words.

01:10:52.000 That's CNN saying it, not me.

01:10:56.000 Let's just say this then. 1.00

01:10:57.000 If that is the official line from Sanjay Gupta, which is clearly contradicting the establishment narrative, then Sanjay Gupta must be a moron. 0.99

01:11:06.000 He must just be a crackpot conspiracy theorist peddling medical disinformation. 0.99

01:11:10.000 I don't know.

01:11:11.000 I mean, I think, like, we were talking about earlier, it's like I have the same respect for Sanjay Gupta that I would have for some novice debater who got smoked in, like, a round.

01:11:18.000 You're like, well, at least you tried, you know?

01:11:21.000 Like, you got beat really bad, though.

01:11:22.000 But you shouldn't need to have a debate with Joe.

01:11:26.000 The problem is that Like, it wasn't even a debate.

01:11:29.000 Joe was cordial to him.

01:11:30.000 He was nicely talking to him.

01:11:32.000 He wasn't aggressive.

01:11:33.000 Oh, and in Sanjay Gupta's article, he says he gifted Joe a Joe Rogan Experience face mask from Joe's own website, which Joe seemed surprised by.

01:11:44.000 And he makes it seem like Joe Rogan who's anti-mask.

01:11:47.000 I bought him a mask from himself and he was shocked.

01:11:50.000 And I'm like, he was probably confused as to why you got him a mask from his own merch store.

01:11:55.000 If someone showed up and was like, hey Tim, I got you something.

01:11:57.000 What is it?

01:11:58.000 It's one of your own shirts.

01:12:00.000 I'd be like, we have a pile over there.

01:12:03.000 The self-righteousness and delusion.

01:12:06.000 I mean, wow.

01:12:07.000 And these are the people preaching.

01:12:08.000 These people never get outside of their bubbles.

01:12:10.000 And this is the first time that they do, and they get smoked, as you're saying.

01:12:14.000 That's a good point.

01:12:16.000 I mean, CNN never has anyone who doesn't push the narrative and the agenda.

01:12:21.000 Never on.

01:12:21.000 They never have those discussions.

01:12:23.000 They're, they're living in a world that is tightly controlled.

01:12:26.000 The information that they get is carefully curated for them.

01:12:29.000 And they just know one particular thing.

01:12:31.000 They don't know anything else.

01:12:33.000 So we're talking to individuals that are literally, uh, the Helen Kellers of our society. 0.97

01:12:38.000 He's like, he strikes me as highly intelligent, but ignorant in ways. 0.96

01:12:42.000 And I can say that from experience, because when I'm on this show, I tend to be very ignorant about what we're talking about. 0.96

01:12:47.000 Cause I don't study and read about it.

01:12:48.000 I find out about it on the spot.

01:12:50.000 I'm able to process the information.

01:12:52.000 The ability to defend your own position from a hostile interrogator or inquisitor is learned.

01:13:00.000 If you're not used to it, it requires a lot more work.

01:13:03.000 Not if you're on CNN.

01:13:04.000 No, no.

01:13:05.000 Not if you're honest.

01:13:06.000 Not if you're mentally capable.

01:13:09.000 And I'll give a shout out to Jordan Peterson.

01:13:10.000 That interview he did with Jim Jeffries, where he says, yo, should people be compelled to use the pronouns?

01:13:16.000 And then Peterson's like, no, people should not be compelled to speak.

01:13:20.000 And then he's like, a private business shouldn't be forced to do this, that, or otherwise.

01:13:24.000 And then Jeffries says, do you think that the government enforcing desegregation was a good idea?

01:13:30.000 And then Peterson just went, hmm.

01:13:33.000 Maybe I was wrong about that.

01:13:34.000 Very simply, as a mature adult who's in control of his emotions, was just like, huh, maybe I'm wrong.

01:13:41.000 That's also true.

01:13:41.000 Yeah.

01:13:42.000 That's a very simple way.

01:13:44.000 I'm thinking, I guess, more along the ways of getting through something like that without having to make a concession that you were wrong.

01:13:49.000 Right, you actually have to think through it in great detail and nuance your position a lot.

01:13:53.000 My point is, if you're wrong, you should just be like, oh, you know, maybe I was wrong about that.

01:13:56.000 It looked like Sanjay knew his job was on the line.

01:13:58.000 Like, remember when I told Zuby he was wrong when he said vitamin?

01:14:01.000 And I was like, ha, it's vitamin!

01:14:03.000 And boy, was I wrong!

01:14:05.000 Yeah, we're wrong sometimes.

01:14:06.000 I'm wrong sometimes, too.

01:14:08.000 But it's about being able to admit it that sets you aside from the mainstream media.

01:14:12.000 That's the difference.

01:14:13.000 They live in a totally smoke-up-your-family-friendly-show-tuckus world.

01:14:19.000 And then we live in a world where we have to go through comments.

01:14:25.000 I'm reading the comments right now.

01:14:27.000 I love you.

01:14:27.000 I mean, you guys are Interesting, to say the least.

01:14:30.000 If you see me laughing here, it's because of the comments.

01:14:32.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:14:34.000 This is a good point to bring up something, you know?

01:14:37.000 Yeah, we want to make sure we're getting things right.

01:14:39.000 We have a bunch of people in the chat who will say, like, here's a correction.

01:14:41.000 Yesterday, we did a correction on our segment on Crowder.

01:14:43.000 I misinterpreted what was going on with the suspension, but he was suspended.

01:14:47.000 I want to show you this story from CNN Business, and I want to give a special shout out to one of the most evil people in media, Brian Stelter.

01:14:53.000 CNN writes this article, these four words are helping spread vaccine misinformation.

01:14:58.000 Four little words, do your own research, are hurting the U.S.

01:15:02.000 pandemic response, CNN's chief media correspondent Brian Stelter said on Reliable Sources.

01:15:07.000 Now this story is from last month, but I think it's very important because Brian Stelter also had a segment where he said, don't go and watch the propaganda, come to us.

01:15:18.000 That's how you know you're being lied to.

01:15:20.000 Because I tell you this.

01:15:22.000 Make sure you go and watch CNN.

01:15:24.000 You understand their point of view.

01:15:25.000 Make sure you're watching, you know, progressives and conservatives, so you get a healthy diet of perspective.

01:15:31.000 And then figure out what you think is right for you.

01:15:33.000 Why?

01:15:33.000 I'm not an authoritarian.

01:15:34.000 And I think most of the people who come on the show, some people are authoritarians, but most people aren't.

01:15:38.000 And so what that means is, it's up to you to figure out what works for you and what you believe.

01:15:43.000 CNN is authoritarian. 0.95

01:15:44.000 They're evil. 0.93

01:15:45.000 They want to keep you in the dark so that you serve them.

01:15:48.000 They literally told you reading WikiLeaks was illegal.

01:15:52.000 They literally came out on national television.

01:15:52.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:15:54.000 It's fine for us because we're journalists.

01:15:56.000 But you, the peasant class... Chris Cuomo is a lawyer, too. 0.99

01:15:58.000 He has a law degree.

01:15:59.000 Exactly.

01:15:59.000 Oh, it's like the First Amendment thing.

01:16:00.000 Remember that famous thing where he's like, who said a protest needs to be peaceful?

01:16:04.000 And then Ramen Bro was just like, it's right there in the First Amendment.

01:16:07.000 You just got to look it up.

01:16:08.000 I think listening and believing are different, and you want to listen with skepticism to as much as you can.

01:16:13.000 Jacinda Arden, is she the prime minister of New Zealand?

01:16:17.000 We are your only source of truth.

01:16:19.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 This is like from a week ago, a video of her on Twitter I saw.

01:16:23.000 It's so disturbing that she's telling people, do not listen to these other sources.

01:16:26.000 Do not pay attention to them.

01:16:28.000 We are, only listen to us.

01:16:29.000 We are the arbiter.

01:16:31.000 Something happened to the, like, the sort of wealthy white liberal mind, right?

01:16:36.000 I don't know why that is, but like, Basically, I look at Australia and New Zealand and I'm like, this is what it would be like if the wealthy white liberals were completely in control of this country, right?

01:16:46.000 If the Democratic Party didn't have a big part of its constituency as minorities.

01:16:51.000 Like, if it were just white Democrats, we would be like Australia and New Zealand. 0.66

01:16:55.000 Yep.

01:16:56.000 Guarantee it.

01:16:57.000 Yep.

01:16:58.000 So, uh, we can every day just, um, you know, give your respects to the right wing nut jobs living in the mountains for helping keep this country, uh, balanced, I guess.

01:17:08.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

01:17:09.000 We do have it a lot better than other places.

01:17:11.000 Like, you know, some people often are like, man, this, I've seen some stuff, like America's gone crazy.

01:17:15.000 I'm like, if you want to see crazy, like there are, there are much worse places to be.

01:17:19.000 It was so crazy what she said to an American, to me.

01:17:23.000 Check this out, we have it here in America.

01:17:24.000 Lydia just pulled this article up from the New York Times.

01:17:27.000 Don't go down the rabbit hole.

01:17:29.000 Hold on, hold on, get ready for this.

01:17:31.000 Critical thinking, as we are taught to do it, isn't helping in the fight against misinformation.

01:17:37.000 Watch out.

01:17:38.000 Please.

01:17:40.000 Okay, Brian Selter is telling people, don't do your own research.

01:17:44.000 The New York Times is saying, don't think critically.

01:17:48.000 All right.

01:17:50.000 It's like Ethan Klein said.

01:17:52.000 You don't even have to think about it.

01:17:53.000 You just go on the website and it tells you what to do.

01:17:56.000 Congratulations.

01:17:57.000 Well, they want little peasant slaves and they're doing the PR bidding of the ruling establishment that wants to control them more and have every aspect of their lives carefully coordinated in a way that directly benefits them. 0.74

01:18:08.000 This is exactly what they're doing.

01:18:10.000 People think they're sophisticated.

01:18:11.000 People think they're sophisticated people.

01:18:13.000 Well, they think they could fool everyone, and they have absolute disrespect for the general public.

01:18:18.000 That's why they lie to them continually.

01:18:20.000 That's why they're pushing this other nonsense onto people.

01:18:25.000 And for some people, they're not wrong.

01:18:28.000 But for the majority of people?

01:18:30.000 Uh, I believe they're totally wrong, and a lot of people saying, hey, they're telling me not to do my own homework?

01:18:35.000 They're telling me not to do my own research?

01:18:38.000 They're telling me not to critically think?

01:18:39.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:18:40.000 Look, to be fair, when they say not to do your own research, they're helping you, because as we know, it would be illegal, right?

01:18:46.000 You know, Chris Cuomo, it was Cuomo who said that?

01:18:49.000 Yeah, Cuomo said, like, we can look at these documents because we're journalists.

01:18:52.000 See?

01:18:52.000 Now, what if you went and you did your own research and you broke the law, Luke?

01:18:56.000 Don't think critically.

01:18:58.000 Just go to the government's website.

01:18:59.000 The FBI hasn't trapped people for less already, so maybe you're not even wrong, to be honest with you.

01:19:07.000 But again, this just shows you that the complete PR representation that the media really is.

01:19:14.000 They're not journalists.

01:19:15.000 They're not the mainstream media.

01:19:17.000 They're just spokespersons for the super-rich that are trying to placate you, pacify you, and make you comply with every crazy demand that they have for you.

01:19:26.000 Maybe some value, if they had rephrased this and said, like, don't believe everything you read at face value.

01:19:32.000 Look deeper.

01:19:33.000 No, no, no, no.

01:19:34.000 Do critical thinking.

01:19:35.000 Maybe then, if they had the opposite message of what they had now, maybe then you can make an argument.

01:19:40.000 You're telling people to think critically.

01:19:42.000 Of course.

01:19:42.000 They're telling people to do the opposite.

01:19:44.000 And either they're idiotically conflating the definition of thinking critically and don't believe everything you see at face value, or they're blatantly attempting to mislead people to become sheep led to the slaughter. 0.98

01:19:57.000 Maybe Ian is a secret establishment shill because... Of course I am! 0.99

01:20:02.000 Well, look, I'm going to say this, but I'm being fair.

01:20:05.000 You are postmodernist and you often placate the things they're doing and try to find justifications as if they're doing something good.

01:20:12.000 2006, I started making YouTube videos.

01:20:13.000 They contacted me October 2006.

01:20:15.000 That's a joke, by the way.

01:20:20.000 Postmodernism is a way to critique all this stuff.

01:20:22.000 Once you understand what they're doing, you start reading Foucault.

01:20:26.000 Foucault is one of the classic lefty thinkers, but a big part of Foucault's work is about biopolitics, like the management of a human population's health.

01:20:35.000 That seems really relevant.

01:20:36.000 Right about now, honestly.

01:20:38.000 I went through a hard postmodernist phase where I started to think like that from like 2006 to 2008.

01:20:42.000 And there's video evidence of it if you want to watch it on YouTube.

01:20:46.000 It was pretty crazy.

01:20:47.000 But having gone through it, I can now see the pitfalls as if I'm experiencing what they're experiencing.

01:20:52.000 It helps.

01:20:53.000 And sometimes I'll bring that up on the show and it's really kind of out of place on this show because we're talking more about like, literology.

01:20:59.000 You know, people don't understand, too.

01:21:00.000 I think we can do the big reveal.

01:21:04.000 Ian, actually, he normally wears a suit.

01:21:07.000 I'm taking my shirt off.

01:21:08.000 He normally wears a suit, and he walks around with his hair done up very properly, and he's got a British accent.

01:21:15.000 I do two hours of... We hired an actor, and we were like, we need a hippie stoner. 0.58

01:21:20.000 Thanks for doing my makeup beforehand, too, by the way.

01:21:23.000 It's just dirt.

01:21:26.000 It's a wig.

01:21:28.000 I don't know how much longer we'll last in this world, right?

01:21:32.000 In politics?

01:21:33.000 Well, look at what happens with Steven Crowder.

01:21:35.000 He does a comedy bit on a news story, and they come after him, and now there's a big story he can't talk about.

01:21:42.000 Censorship is real.

01:21:43.000 We may have TimCast.com, and we're working really hard.

01:21:47.000 We're growing.

01:21:47.000 Freedomistan is now in the ownership of the TimCast Media growing conglomerate, which means we're going to be doing more culture content, more gun content.

01:21:57.000 We're going to be having range stuff, training, and maybe even some CQC training stuff.

01:22:02.000 So we're growing.

01:22:02.000 We're definitely growing, and we want to teach people responsibility.

01:22:05.000 We want to inspire people to take care of themselves, to think critically.

01:22:09.000 But, you know, we're still walking on thin ice.

01:22:13.000 We're still traversing, you know, flaming field.

01:22:15.000 At any moment, we could be, you know, cut back severely.

01:22:19.000 It could make it very, very difficult to try and defend our ideals and our vision.

01:22:23.000 I think of it as a metaphor of like, we're swimming upstream, and that's the political situation.

01:22:28.000 We're all trying to swim upstream together.

01:22:29.000 Then when we get to where we're going, there's all these other fish there, and this is the culture, and we're all kind of competing to get through.

01:22:36.000 But then there's the gate of the dam.

01:22:38.000 And that's the technology that we use.

01:22:40.000 And unless we control the technology that we're using, there's no way to get up through that dam to get upstream any further.

01:22:48.000 So that's why we're building the Fediverse out.

01:22:50.000 It's not just technology, Ian.

01:22:51.000 It's infrastructure, right?

01:22:52.000 So the technology that's being built out with the Metaverse project, I think you've been calling it, is it's infrastructure.

01:22:59.000 Creating pathways for people to maintain communications, to persist as the likes of CNN and the New York Times try to curtail your ability to think.

01:23:06.000 Or literally tell you not to.

01:23:09.000 And those are the people promoted.

01:23:10.000 Those are the people in the algorithms.

01:23:13.000 Those are the people in your news feeds.

01:23:14.000 Those are the people you get notifications from, even if you don't follow them.

01:23:17.000 Other independent voices that question, that try to have a debate here, that try to counter the narrative, that try to enter the conversation from a point of view that's not from the script, well, they get hit with fake news accusations.

01:23:30.000 So this is the world that we're living in more and more, and their message is becoming more and more radical.

01:23:35.000 I mean, if you're at a point where you're a media institution and your main headline is, Don't Critically Think, that's when you know you're not a part of the good guys.

01:23:45.000 That's when you know you're not doing journalism.

01:23:47.000 That's when you know you're not a reporter.

01:23:50.000 You're a repeater for the special billionaire globalist class that directly calls the shots, that pays the bills, that influences our politics more than we could even imagine.

01:24:00.000 But let's also wrap this segment up on a high note.

01:24:05.000 If the fact that we're here having this conversation and highlighting it is proof that victory is not only possible, but our mere existence and the success of this show and the work you do with Human Events and Luke, your channel, it's proof that victory has been happening.

01:24:21.000 These are battles we win every day with all the work that we're doing.

01:24:24.000 And for everybody watching as well, supporting the work.

01:24:26.000 And I mean, you think about like vaccine mandates, right?

01:24:28.000 Six months ago, they were saying, oh, of course, we're not going to mandate vaccines, right?

01:24:31.000 They were just relying on persuasion.

01:24:33.000 And then six months later, they're mandating them.

01:24:36.000 If properly viewed, that's a loss, right?

01:24:38.000 That's a concession of defeat.

01:24:40.000 Like you were not able to persuade people.

01:24:43.000 And with your methods of persuasion, and so you resorted to government force.

01:24:47.000 And like, in so many other ways, right, the mainstream media, corporate media has gone from, we're not worried about these competitors, we are better at our jobs, we are more accurate, people are ultimately, like, some small fringe number of people are gonna rely on crazies, but like, most people will rely on us.

01:25:06.000 And they've also given that up.

01:25:07.000 They're like, oh, actually, we've lost that battle too, so now we need to like, Yep, yep.

01:25:17.000 And when we see them try and use extreme force against parents, I gotta say, a lot of this, we may, look, I'll say this, I may fear that, you know, who knows how long until they try and, you know, take out our channel or whatever, or delete it.

01:25:31.000 When you're going after satire, when you're going after comedy, when you're going after memes, I mean, that's acts of desperation.

01:25:35.000 I mean, this is what happened in Soviet-level communist countries.

01:25:37.000 That's this major corporations. It's Republicans. It's Democrats. They are they are struggling

01:25:41.000 To maintain some kind of control when you're going after satire when you're going after comedy when you're going

01:25:47.000 after memes I mean that's acts of desperation. I mean, this is what

01:25:51.000 happened in Soviet level communist countries This is what happened to you know, my family in Poland.

01:25:57.000 They made sure that that musicians comedy performers

01:26:01.000 Poets those are the first people that the Soviet Union went after because they influenced culture

01:26:07.000 They influenced the general public in a way that motivated them through art.

01:26:12.000 And if I'm ever proud of anything, I'm definitely proud of my t-shirt store.

01:26:16.000 I'm definitely proud of my ideas.

01:26:17.000 I'm proud of my email list that's very hard to take away because I have a physical copy of it.

01:26:21.000 I'm very proud of my members area because this is something that I've been creating and now that they're going after our art, it's truly the last kind of sign of total You know, I don't want to be hyperbolic.

01:26:33.000 I don't want to be too sensational.

01:26:35.000 But we're reaching the point of absurdity.

01:26:37.000 We're reaching the point that I believe is sort of dangerous because they're literally trying to hit anything that even goes against their cult.

01:26:47.000 That even goes against their larger ideology.

01:26:49.000 That goes against any kind of prevailing ideas that they want to throw at you.

01:26:54.000 So this is absurd.

01:26:56.000 I think it's definitely going to get worse.

01:26:59.000 symbols of a very insecure, dangerous empire that because of that insecurity

01:27:05.000 is there's the danger and that's something to really look out for.

01:27:10.000 When you say you think it'll only get worse, what exactly do you think will happen?

01:27:12.000 Well when you have such insecurity, when you have such fear by the state that they

01:27:15.000 literally have to hit satire, comedy, art and and run attack pieces on anyone who

01:27:22.000 Look what's happened to Kyrie Irving. 0.99

01:27:23.000 He's being attacked viciously.

01:27:25.000 He just came out with a statement today saying it's not about money, it's about freedom.

01:27:30.000 And he's making a very important stand here.

01:27:33.000 But everyone in the establishment, every sports commentator, is regurgitating the same lines against him.

01:27:39.000 The same talking points against him.

01:27:41.000 And he should shut up and dribble, right? 0.97

01:27:42.000 Pretty much, yeah. 0.93

01:27:43.000 Pretty much that's the points that they're making about it. 1.00

01:27:45.000 A whole bunch of white people telling a black man to shut up and dribble. 0.99

01:27:48.000 Well, I think it's funny, right? 1.00

01:27:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:50.000 Who said that first?

01:27:51.000 Laura Ingraham.

01:27:52.000 Laura Ingraham's the one who did say it.

01:27:54.000 I'm talking about LeBron, right?

01:27:55.000 Yeah.

01:27:56.000 I think the difference is, and we mentioned this the other day, is that LeBron was opining on politics that had nothing to do with his game.

01:28:02.000 Whereas, Kyrie Irving is saying, like, they're not letting me play unless I submit to this, and I'm not gonna do it.

01:28:07.000 Yeah.

01:28:07.000 So, very different circumstances.

01:28:08.000 It seems like the Republicans have the opportunity to be, like, the ultimate workers' rights party. 1.00

01:28:13.000 I do want to say, too, a stupid comment from Ingram. 1.00

01:28:16.000 Yeah? 1.00

01:28:16.000 Like... Yeah! 1.00

01:28:17.000 Oh, yeah!

01:28:17.000 No, like, look, you know, I kind of... I feel like the last, you know, five years, there have been moments where you're like, okay, that was kind of dumb.

01:28:24.000 Like, and you look back at, sort of, 2010-era GOP behavior, and you're like, eh. 0.84

01:28:24.000 Right? 0.84

01:28:30.000 Not the greatest.

01:28:32.000 That's kind of tacky, especially when they demean workers and laud CEOs and corporate people.

01:28:37.000 When I was talking to Charlie Kirk about a lot of these issues, he said, you know, the conservatives weren't ready for these things, talking about populist ideas and the working class.

01:28:46.000 Not the working class specifically, but there's a lot of things where he was like, we didn't realize this, like the corporations and stuff like that.

01:28:52.000 And I'm just thinking, like, Jack Murphy mentioned that when the Republican Party said okay to gay marriage, that allowed him to be like, oh, okay, I can embrace this party right now.

01:29:02.000 I actually feel like what's happening is the Republican Party has shifted to the left, thanks to Donald Trump.

01:29:07.000 A lot of independent voters were like, he's the guy I'm gonna vote for because his politics align closer with mine, populism, fighting back against the establishment, less so with traditional conservatism or anything like that.

01:29:18.000 So now I see, you know, in this battle, there's a more moderate right concerned about what's going on.

01:29:25.000 I think that builds a bigger coalition and more optimism, I suppose.

01:29:29.000 I think so, too.

01:29:29.000 And I mean, there's some Democrats who are ringing the alarm bell.

01:29:32.000 I mean, something I guess I should have brought up for discussion is there's this op-ed Or about this guy, David Shore, who was on Obama's polling team, and he's like a socialist, but he's one of these people who's like hardcore poll analyst reader, and he's like ringing the alarm bells of Democrats, because he's like, hey guys, Donald Trump is really good for the Republican Party as a general matter, because he reoriented their policy positions and their base to give them huge structural advantages in the Senate and the Electoral College.

01:29:59.000 And like, basically he's like, we need to radically restructure, you know, we need to add states, we need to do all these crazy things in order to win.

01:30:06.000 But like when Democrats are saying that, the point is like, yeah, Republicans are, you know, I'm, this is why I'm not blackmailed at all.

01:30:11.000 Like, you know, if, if we can get past social media censorship and some of the other shenanigans, Republicans have a much more popular policy platform than they did 10 years ago.

01:30:22.000 But you know what's really funny?

01:30:24.000 If you look at the polling data, the Democratic Party mostly likes the Democratic Party.

01:30:28.000 The Republican voter mostly dislikes the Republican Party.

01:30:31.000 That's amazing.

01:30:32.000 It is funny that way.

01:30:34.000 It's like they're just, you know, maybe eventually these congressmen will finally kind of rotate out.

01:30:39.000 There is a record number of people running, as my understanding, in the Republican races for the Republican primaries and for Congress.

01:30:46.000 So I'm just saying, too many Republicans running is actually bad news for the Republicans.

01:30:51.000 But too many Republicans running in the primaries is really good news.

01:30:56.000 Yeah.

01:30:57.000 That's what needs to happen.

01:30:58.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 And I mean, also, without, you know, any sort of suicide pact type stuff, like, I mean, again, I'm going back to, like, Lin Wood being like, don't vote for the Georgia Senate candidates.

01:31:07.000 Do you see that lie they put out?

01:31:09.000 They're like, Donald Trump told people not to vote.

01:31:11.000 No, that was Lin Wood.

01:31:12.000 It's insane.

01:31:13.000 The story just came out, Daily Beast reporting it.

01:31:15.000 Trump said that if they don't sort through the fraud, then Republicans won't be voting in 2022 or 2024.

01:31:23.000 He didn't say not to vote.

01:31:25.000 He was expressing his opinion that people wouldn't have trust in the elections and wouldn't come out.

01:31:30.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:31:33.000 I really am kind of annoyed by comments like that, because Trump was president.

01:31:37.000 He was in power.

01:31:37.000 He was.

01:31:38.000 He had the ability to do some stuff.

01:31:40.000 Now he's not, right?

01:31:42.000 If you want to blame anybody for not getting the stuff done that needed to be done before the election, blame yourself.

01:31:48.000 That was your job.

01:31:49.000 Not to be too nihilistic, but I don't think we could vote our way out of this mess, personally, myself.

01:31:54.000 That's just my opinion.

01:31:55.000 It might be too...

01:31:56.000 Black Pill for some people, but I do think it's going to be art, it's going to be culture, it's going to be memes, it's going to be ideas, it's going to be individuals standing up for their personal, individual liberties and being personally responsible for themselves, moving away from such a draconian, totalitarian system and deciding that they're going to be taking care of themselves by being happy, healthy and productive as much as they can.

01:32:20.000 The reason that the state thrives off of so many people who don't think, people who are unhealthy, it's motivated in a way where you not being fulfilled, you being weak, makes the state stronger.

01:32:35.000 So I think if anything's going to happen, if there's ever going to be a change, it's citizenry deciding to take care of themselves, take personal responsibility, be happy, healthy, and prosperous.

01:32:45.000 And that will eventually reverberate and reciprocate into people moving away from the state and moving towards their own kind of individual liberty.

01:32:54.000 Yeah, you pointed out, if we can overcome the tech censorship, then.

01:32:58.000 Yeah, I think that's a big one.

01:33:00.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats.

01:33:02.000 But I want to say one thing that I find funny.

01:33:06.000 Back in the day, Luke and I were hanging out in 2011, 2012, and we had this joke that in 20 years or whatever, I'd be this suit-wearing CEO of a major conglomerate media company, and Luke would be this still independently-run operation, and he'd see me coming out of a meeting, and he'd be like, Tim, why did you?

01:33:23.000 And then he'd question me, and then I'd be like, It's Luke!

01:33:26.000 Get out of here! 0.99

01:33:28.000 It's a funny joke, but I'm just thinking about how long it's been and how much work we've put in and where we are now.

01:33:34.000 You know, Luke's been doing this for a lot longer than I have.

01:33:36.000 We were hanging out back in 2011, and now here we are, you know, doing more work, challenging these systems, fighting for freedom, and I feel, honestly, if you look at this new studio, I mean, we've been winning in a lot of ways.

01:33:50.000 It's gotten worse.

01:33:51.000 It's gotten darker.

01:33:52.000 But I do believe a lot of it is because panic and fear.

01:33:55.000 The establishment has been losing control.

01:33:57.000 Donald Trump was a huge sign they were losing control.

01:33:59.000 They freaked out, and boy, did they slam an iron fist, and that's only going to destabilize the system for them more as we grow, as we expand, and we do more work, especially thanks to all of you who are super chatting, everybody commenting, everybody liking, everybody who reads Human Events, who watches We Are Change, who watches TimCast, you guys, all of us together.

01:34:18.000 Let's read some superchats and get down to it.

01:34:20.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

01:34:23.000 Maud Dib says, Tim, have you listened to Data and Picard by Pogo?

01:34:27.000 If not, you should.

01:34:28.000 Also, here's a Doom quote.

01:34:30.000 To accept a little death is worth than death itself.

01:34:33.000 Chani. 0.99

01:34:34.000 Interesting.

01:34:35.000 Great song by Pogo.

01:34:36.000 Is it?

01:34:37.000 We should have him.

01:34:38.000 Alright.

01:34:40.000 Let's see.

01:34:41.000 Andrew Kempker says, give Ian his own show or podcast through Timcast to elaborate on his ideas.

01:34:47.000 I would love a cooking show.

01:34:48.000 I think that cooking segment on the vlog was brilliant.

01:34:51.000 I would love to see more, personally.

01:34:52.000 I did a little gem segment earlier on the vlog, the Tim... what is it?

01:34:57.000 The Cask Castle vlog, and that was really good.

01:35:01.000 I agree.

01:35:02.000 I would like to do a show, maybe with Andreas, like an after show, late night.

01:35:05.000 We'll call it like the late, late, late, late show.

01:35:07.000 Dude, you and Andreas?

01:35:08.000 4 o'clock in the morning.

01:35:09.000 That would be, like, the ultimate, like, I need to be...

01:35:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:35:14.000 It's like the adult swim.

01:35:15.000 We'll carry the torch.

01:35:18.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:35:20.000 Let's see.

01:35:22.000 Carl Andrews says, Luke, I will follow you on Insta and anywhere, for that matter, from the poop-covered sidewalks of California to the 1,000-yard ranges of Fridamistan.

01:35:31.000 Amen.

01:35:32.000 Thank you.

01:35:32.000 We went to Fridamistan today.

01:35:34.000 We rode the bikes around.

01:35:34.000 It has an old cemetery on it from the 1700s.

01:35:37.000 Apparently, people pull up and they want to go, and they're like, hey, can I go to the cemetery?

01:35:42.000 Because it's on this private property.

01:35:43.000 And I don't think we're going to have a 1,000-yard range.

01:35:46.000 But I think we'll have a good range, a good one.

01:35:48.000 It's a big property.

01:35:49.000 There's a little hill.

01:35:50.000 It's not too crazy, but it'll be a whole lot of fun.

01:35:53.000 I love cemeteries, man.

01:35:54.000 I grew up with a cemetery right outside my backyard.

01:35:57.000 Like, there's a little fence and then the big cemetery.

01:35:59.000 I grew up pretty close to Resurrection Cemetery, where the famous story of Resurrection Mary takes place.

01:36:04.000 You guys should read that ghost story.

01:36:06.000 Maybe for Tales from the Inverted World, we can have Shane investigate some of these Chicago ghost stories.

01:36:11.000 I was talking to him about it.

01:36:12.000 I was like, dude, Chicago's got so much.

01:36:14.000 Like, Bachelor's Grove, man.

01:36:16.000 That's a story that needs to be written about more.

01:36:19.000 Like, people have written about it, but as time goes on, more weird stuff emerges.

01:36:23.000 All right, 7omcruise says, Tim, you bought the wrong motorcycle.

01:36:27.000 You are never gonna experience the joy of a long-distance ride on that rocket.

01:36:32.000 Jokes aside, congratulations on your new ride.

01:36:33.000 Stay safe and your wheels on the road.

01:36:37.000 So I got the Zero SRS.

01:36:39.000 It's an electric motorcycle because we got those Onyx bikes, and people commented, those are not the Teslas of motorcycles.

01:36:47.000 Zero is, and then we looked into it, and the SRS is like, aw, man.

01:36:52.000 I gotta say, amazing motorcycle.

01:36:55.000 0-60 like in a couple seconds.

01:36:58.000 I went from 65 to like 0 in a couple seconds which was kind of scary because I had to stop for a hard turn.

01:37:05.000 It is silent.

01:37:07.000 It is quiet.

01:37:09.000 Just so quiet I'm worried I'll get hit.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't mean to be like, if you're worried about, you should be worried about getting hit.

01:37:17.000 So my mom was a lawyer and she did insurance defense, right?

01:37:20.000 So that means like somebody, you know, it's usually like various types of injuries and then she represents the insurance company if it goes to litigation.

01:37:27.000 And through her experience, and then she said to me, Will, there's two things I never want you to do.

01:37:31.000 One of them is to go on a carnival ride, right?

01:37:33.000 And the second is to ride a motorcycle.

01:37:36.000 Like, and that's just, you know, that's her thing. 0.98

01:37:38.000 Like, she was like, if you don't do those two things, you'll probably be okay.

01:37:40.000 But the carnival rides, the temporary, you know, she's like, amusement parks, fine.

01:37:43.000 It's fixed.

01:37:44.000 It's very strong.

01:37:45.000 Temporary carnival rides, never.

01:37:46.000 I've never, ever, ever done that.

01:37:47.000 I got electrocuted on one of those.

01:37:49.000 I think, I think people, uh, you know, the way I approach the riding the motorcycle is just, I do very different things, right?

01:37:55.000 So when I'm getting off the highway, I do a right turn three times instead of taking a left turn.

01:38:00.000 And, you know, it might, might sound paranoid or whatever, but I, there was a story right now about this like, uh, amateur skateboarder, like not, not like somebody who's actually paid to do it.

01:38:08.000 They're called Am.

01:38:10.000 And he was stone cold sober riding his bike and someone just hit him because people don't see you.

01:38:15.000 So my view of it is, look, it's not a long distance bike.

01:38:18.000 It's range is about a hundred miles.

01:38:19.000 I treat it like, you know, there's a very, very high risk factor.

01:38:23.000 So, you know, you've got to go with traffic, but when I'm exiting, we actually have a way we can come to the property where you don't turn left off of the highway when it winds down.

01:38:31.000 You turn right and then loop around and then go down.

01:38:34.000 So those right turns are faster, easier, safer.

01:38:36.000 Things like that.

01:38:36.000 I'm not I'm not planning on taking this bike on you know using it for everything short short rides and stuff But I was reading I think it's like one in four people get an accident Yeah, my dad was a fireman for 25 years also named Tim and the worst injury He got was before he was a fireman on a motorcycle He hit something on the road and flew over the front of the bike and then the bike ran him over and broke his leg And he has a big iron rod metal rod in his leg Wow.

01:38:59.000 still to this day? Yeah, no, I mean a good friend of ours, I don't know if you know Alec Baker,

01:39:02.000 but he's like sort of in conservative world. He worked for I think Cassie Dillon for a while or

01:39:08.000 something like that, but anyway he got a motorcycle three weeks later, had a massive injury, broke his

01:39:11.000 leg in like three places. He was a year of rehab. So. Wow, what happened? I think he just got,

01:39:17.000 I don't know if it was rear-ended, but he got hit by a jeep.

01:39:19.000 Yep.

01:39:20.000 That's the other thing too.

01:39:21.000 It's like, yeah, I'm just not, I'm not going to be taking a bike into like, I'm not going to be using it for regular travel, you know?

01:39:29.000 We're going to use it for more country stuff, less traffic.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, open roads.

01:39:34.000 Well, I mean, my dad, he was him alone with the bike and something knocked him over the front of the thing.

01:39:39.000 Ran himself over.

01:39:40.000 Hit a deer, you know?

01:39:41.000 I almost hit a deer.

01:39:42.000 It was running at an angle towards me.

01:39:45.000 And then I was like, okay, we're gonna collide.

01:39:47.000 I hit the brakes and it just zoomed right in front of me.

01:39:49.000 Oh man, that's crazy.

01:39:50.000 All right, we got some super chats here.

01:39:52.000 Let's see.

01:39:53.000 Jyreen Johnny says, I will be losing a six-figure job in the coming weeks.

01:39:57.000 I've done DoD cybersecurity for almost 20 years.

01:40:00.000 Company is looking at a 30 to 40% loss of manpower, so we get regular emails reminding us to comply.

01:40:06.000 I shall not comply.

01:40:07.000 Thank you for doing what you do.

01:40:08.000 Thank you.

01:40:09.000 I saw a post, I don't know if it's true, and they were like, a company announced vaccine mandates, and then they mentioned it was an airport.

01:40:15.000 I don't know if you saw this post.

01:40:16.000 They were like, the sea terminal at some airport.

01:40:18.000 The restaurant owner mandated everybody get vaccine mandates, and then the next day, half the staff didn't show up, so all the restaurants were closed, and he sent out an email saying the policies were rescinded, everyone come to work.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, I mean, I have enormous respect for people who do not comply with the mandates and make serious sacrifices like that.

01:40:37.000 I don't think everybody's in a position to do that, and I don't begrudge people who don't, right?

01:40:42.000 Like, some people need the money, some people, for whatever reason, they need the money, they just can't be unemployed and treat those people as having been coerced, right?

01:40:51.000 Like, they've been meaningfully coerced into doing it.

01:40:54.000 People who don't.

01:40:54.000 I think Kyrie Irving's doing is one of the most brave things I've ever seen.

01:40:58.000 Dude's giving up $200 million.

01:40:59.000 $200?

01:40:59.000 Because he's not just giving up his current year's salary.

01:41:04.000 He's giving up his chance at an extension with the team he currently works with.

01:41:08.000 And the way the NBA pay structure works.

01:41:09.000 I mean, I don't know if it'll be ultimately a full $200 million loss, but it'll be substantial because if you switch teams, the amount you can sign for is dramatically reduced and the years are reduced too.

01:41:18.000 And sponsorship deals and advertisements, all of that.

01:41:21.000 It's a very, very brave thing to be doing.

01:41:25.000 He has a ton of skin in the game.

01:41:28.000 You compare this to things like widespread BLM protests where they're basically just doing what the establishment wanted, everybody went along with it, no meaningful risk.

01:41:38.000 If anything, the risk is not going along with it.

01:41:41.000 Um, and you compare that to this where he's just completely out on an island with everyone from the corporations, the administration, the mainstream media, everyone just giving it to him.

01:41:50.000 All right.

01:41:50.000 This one's a spicy one.

01:41:51.000 Sonny James says this whole, this, this is the whole problem with the CIA and the FBI.

01:41:55.000 They're lazy.

01:41:56.000 They want unemployment and Postmates.

01:41:58.000 It's easy to chase down people who aren't running.

01:42:00.000 It's not even cool to belong to the CIA or FBI anymore.

01:42:03.000 They can't even pull off a good PSYOP equivalent to working at BK.

01:42:07.000 Oof.

01:42:08.000 At least you get free cheeseburgers when you work at Burger King, right?

01:42:10.000 I think they're pretty good at psyopsis.

01:42:12.000 So especially if you, I don't, I can't even mention.

01:42:16.000 All right.

01:42:16.000 We'll have you on the after late, late, late show.

01:42:18.000 Here's a super chat I'm going to read.

01:42:20.000 Most of it says I won't.

01:42:21.000 Nick says, and I'm gonna read it verbatim. 0.87

01:42:24.000 Is Tim, you're either dumb or naive if the DOJ will do nothing in support of the January 6th rioters, but you won't read this because it's critical of why. 0.92

01:42:34.000 Well put. 0.97

01:42:37.000 I read comments that are critical of me all the time.

01:42:39.000 I think his legal analysis is better than his grammar, but it's a close war.

01:42:44.000 What is he saying?

01:42:44.000 I don't actually know what that means.

01:42:45.000 I don't know what he's saying.

01:42:47.000 Right. 0.92

01:42:47.000 I think he's saying that I'm dumb if the DOJ will do nothing in support of the January 6th rioters. 0.92

01:42:55.000 So that is to say if the DOJ supports the rioters, I'm smart. 0.55

01:42:59.000 Well, hey, read that again really quick.

01:43:00.000 I think I got an answer. 0.98

01:43:01.000 Is it maybe like he's trying to say that the DOJ won't, will throw the book at the rioters and you're dumb and naive if you think they won't? 0.98

01:43:09.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:43:09.000 Maybe. 0.99

01:43:10.000 But then we have the experience of like all these misdemeanors.

01:43:13.000 Here we go.

01:43:13.000 I love this one.

01:43:15.000 Nick S. Here he comes again.

01:43:17.000 You weren't arrested, Tim.

01:43:18.000 It's called being detained.

01:43:20.000 Wrong! 0.86

01:43:21.000 So what's the difference?

01:43:22.000 Tell him he's wrong.

01:43:24.000 Nick, you're wrong.

01:43:26.000 When a police officer stops you and says you are under arrest, you are not being detained, you have been arrested.

01:43:33.000 It's like a more extreme form of detention?

01:43:35.000 Well, I mean, so detained is like, there's something called like a Terry stop, right?

01:43:41.000 Like, so basically if an officer has a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot, They can stop you and frisk you, for example, and they can ask you questions.

01:43:50.000 Under those circumstances, you are being detained.

01:43:51.000 You are not free to leave, but there's a natural time limit on that.

01:43:56.000 Most jurisdictions, I think it's 45 minutes.

01:43:58.000 Something like that.

01:43:59.000 I think in Illinois, it might be 15.

01:44:01.000 So when you're detained, they say, you ask, am I being detained?

01:44:04.000 No.

01:44:05.000 Then you say, okay, then I'm leaving.

01:44:07.000 When you're arrested, there is no time limit and you're not free to leave.

01:44:10.000 However, being arrested doesn't mean you're going to be charged or processed.

01:44:15.000 People don't know this because they get their information from TV shows.

01:44:19.000 So when I was stopped by the cops and told three times by the supervisor, you have been placed under arrest, you are not free to leave, sit down and wait, and then left.

01:44:27.000 And also, you are not free to leave when you're being detained either, it's just that there's that time limit on it.

01:44:31.000 And I think the standard is, like, it's a reasonable suspicion when you're being detained, right?

01:44:34.000 Like, the cop just can't just stop and frisk you for no good reason at all, right?

01:44:37.000 Like, you have to have, like, some suspicion.

01:44:40.000 But to arrest you, right, which means that they can bring you to jail, book you, etc., they need to have probable cause that you committed a crime.

01:44:48.000 So there was a group of people that were surrounded by cops.

01:44:51.000 This was a large, black-block, antifa-type group that had been starting fires and smashing windows, and everybody in that group got Surrounded by all the police and they came out and said you have all been placed under arrest You are not free to go and we are now going to start loading people up into the vans one at a time People were held there for like eight hours or something However for me after the supervisor told me three times to my face outside of the formal announcement He said sir, you've been arrested just wait and I said, I'm just letting you know.

01:45:19.000 He's like, okay and Eventually, a local news outlet boss called the department and said, why are you arresting our journalists?

01:45:19.000 I'm a journalist.

01:45:26.000 Get them out of there.

01:45:27.000 When he came to pull out, there's this little Asian woman. 1.00

01:45:29.000 I was standing next to her and I held up my card and he went, okay.

01:45:32.000 And he pulled me out and he goes, you got a press card?

01:45:33.000 I was like, it's right here.

01:45:34.000 And I gave it to him and he goes, all right, you can leave.

01:45:36.000 So when you're told several times you are not being detained, you are being arrested and you can't leave and you sit there for over an hour, that is not a detainment.

01:45:43.000 Do they need to tell you what you're being arrested for, even if they don't book you?

01:45:46.000 Nope.

01:45:47.000 Nope.

01:45:48.000 People think, like, oh, I love it.

01:45:50.000 Someone said, did they read you your rights?

01:45:53.000 Can you please help us with this one?

01:45:55.000 You are not guaranteed to read your rights, and most of the time you are not.

01:45:58.000 This is a TV thing, right?

01:46:00.000 Because it's like law and order, right?

01:46:02.000 They place the person under arrest, walk them off the handcuffs, and read them as Miranda rights.

01:46:05.000 Generally speaking, people only read their Miranda rights when they're subject to a custodial interrogation, because the entire point of Miranda is so you can use the testimony in court.

01:46:14.000 But if you're not interrogating someone, you don't need to Mirandize them.

01:46:17.000 If the police watch you throw a brick or see a group of people with you in it throw a brick and they decide there's going to be criminal charges against this group, they don't need to investigate any further.

01:46:28.000 Their testimony is, I watched him do it.

01:46:32.000 My fellow officer is a witness who watched him do it.

01:46:34.000 They're not going to read you your rights.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, and also generally the way it works is before, you know, you've seen the, you know, this is the thing,

01:46:41.000 you know, there's the custodial interrogation room where the police officer come in and ask questions of them.

01:46:45.000 Before that starts, you are handed a piece of paper and that's how you are given your rights generally

01:46:50.000 is that you, you know, on the piece of paper and you sign, you know, that you've been made aware

01:46:55.000 of your Miranda rights and then they can come in and start questioning you.

01:46:58.000 Like, that's how.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, but on TV they wanna say it out loud for exposition. Right, right, yeah.

01:47:01.000 There's this famous viral video from Occupy where a woman's being arrested and she's going,

01:47:04.000 I have not been read my rights.

01:47:06.000 And it's like, so you're aware of them.

01:47:08.000 Because you're yelling this out.

01:47:10.000 You're not being investigated for anything.

01:47:12.000 They're charging you with, like, obstructing a roadway.

01:47:15.000 They don't need to interrogate you to figure out you did it.

01:47:18.000 Yeah.

01:47:19.000 You know, people get their news from TV shows and movies.

01:47:21.000 Their legal analysis from TV shows.

01:47:22.000 Like, the silencer is going pew pew pew!

01:47:25.000 Right.

01:47:25.000 Yeah, their legal analysis from watching Law & Order.

01:47:29.000 Alright, let's see.

01:47:30.000 Blave Kaiser says, but Bill Maher says getting involved in local elections and primaries are a slow coup.

01:47:36.000 He said Trump is performing a slow coup by getting involved.

01:47:42.000 Participating in democracy is a coup.

01:47:45.000 Oh, man.

01:47:46.000 Bill Maher is so close, but he won't step on that line.

01:47:50.000 Oh, maybe he will.

01:47:51.000 Psilocybin?

01:47:52.000 I don't know.

01:47:52.000 What's it going to be, Bill?

01:47:54.000 I don't know, man.

01:47:57.000 All right.

01:47:57.000 Let's see.

01:47:57.000 Punk Rock Fox says, Tim, I am freaking out.

01:48:00.000 I was able to get a ticket to your event, but the site would only allow me to grab one ticket.

01:48:04.000 I wanted two and I can't leave my girlfriend behind.

01:48:06.000 We are both huge fans.

01:48:09.000 You know, are they plus one or not?

01:48:12.000 So the tickets are not plus one.

01:48:14.000 The issue is that you can bring a friend.

01:48:16.000 If you're a member, you can get it.

01:48:18.000 You can sign up to get a ticket for another person.

01:48:21.000 If they're not members, they won't be let in unless they're with you.

01:48:24.000 So you can get a ticket for a plus one.

01:48:25.000 We went over a lot of ways to try and figure out the best way to go about doing this.

01:48:29.000 So the idea is if you're a $25 member or more, then you would get advance notice.

01:48:33.000 And so right now the post is only available to people who are members at $25 or more.

01:48:36.000 The $10 members didn't have access to it because we wanted to be like, for those that are really diehard fans, we want to make sure you can come.

01:48:42.000 And it sold out instantly.

01:48:44.000 So the idea was everybody needs a plus one.

01:48:46.000 People can't come by themselves.

01:48:47.000 So you could click RSVP, get a ticket, and then have your friend, significant other, wife, whatever, also get a ticket, and then they could come with you, but they could only get in if they were with someone, because we're going to check at the door, which meant basically about a hundred tickets.

01:49:01.000 Because we were initially planning on only doing like 30, and we're like, we'll do a real venue.

01:49:05.000 And it's just, I think the harsh realities of life is there's no way for us to do an event that would work in this way if we had 1,000 tickets or 2,000 tickets or 3,000.

01:49:16.000 Because you get to that point, it's no longer a hangout meet and greet.

01:49:20.000 It's just us on stage waving to you and then leaving.

01:49:23.000 The Daily Wire did recently, there are videos on, check them out, where they have like a thousand person event.

01:49:29.000 Those are cool too, but they're different than meetings.

01:49:31.000 So what they did, what they did was that, with that was they had 300 people who got tickets to do like a meet and greet thing with them out of those 2,000.

01:49:37.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 So they had a big event, but they had a very much smaller event where they actually were like shaking hands and like making people exhausted by having these small conversations.

01:49:46.000 I will just make sure I stress this point right now.

01:49:49.000 If someone shows up and doesn't have a ticket, they can't get in because we are just going to a small private venue and we don't have the capacity.

01:49:57.000 So if you have a ticket, you can come.

01:50:00.000 And my apologies, if we could have done a better job, we will learn from this and we'll do something better.

01:50:04.000 But let me just stress as well with Fridamastan, we are planning to never have this problem again because we're going to just have a big open field and we're going to have an event Perhaps the Free Dome.

01:50:14.000 The Free Dome!

01:50:15.000 A giant event space.

01:50:16.000 You could do like an old Coachella type thing. 0.82

01:50:17.000 Yeah, it's gonna be, it's Freedom, Freedomistan, you know, Freedom, I don't know.

01:50:22.000 Land.

01:50:23.000 Yeah, Freedom, Freedomistan's Freedom Party or something.

01:50:26.000 And then we can actually accommodate like a couple hundred more people.

01:50:29.000 And then still, you know, it is difficult to hang out and meet people and play pool and watch comedy when you have, like, this massive, massive show.

01:50:36.000 I didn't want to do a, you know, a stadium thing.

01:50:38.000 I didn't want to do, like, a big venue, you know, because then it's basically just doing a show and waving to people and they get to look at you, but then you don't get to actually hang out and meet people.

01:50:45.000 But that means also smaller events.

01:50:47.000 But we're planning on doing them once a month, so we'll figure something out.

01:50:51.000 One of the ideas was that you can't go to two events consecutively.

01:50:56.000 Yeah, I was thinking that too.

01:50:57.000 Yeah, if you go to the October event, then in November, we're like, sorry, you can't come.

01:50:57.000 That crossed my mind.

01:51:03.000 But we gotta figure it out.

01:51:05.000 So 200 tickets were already dished out.

01:51:08.000 You need a ticket to get in.

01:51:09.000 We're gonna be checking memberships at the door.

01:51:11.000 If you got a ticket for your friend who's not a member, they can come in with you.

01:51:16.000 We'll figure it out.

01:51:16.000 We're not an events company, so we should definitely get an events plan.

01:51:19.000 We should, and we should take the show on the road and hit every major capital and do thousand-seat live show events.

01:51:26.000 Just my personal bias.

01:51:27.000 Amanda Dilt says, Tim, fix the sword. 0.98

01:51:30.000 You talk about gun edict.

01:51:32.000 Sword edict is point down, edge down.

01:51:36.000 I see.

01:51:37.000 In case someone puts their hand like that, you don't want them to get cut on the blade.

01:51:40.000 I guess the concern was that we didn't want to actually rest the blade against anything.

01:51:45.000 But we'll flip it over.

01:51:46.000 Yeah.

01:51:47.000 Although they're not... I guess it's technically a real sword.

01:51:50.000 Like, we have the Zelda... You know what I want to do?

01:51:52.000 We should do this.

01:51:52.000 We should take the Master Sword and, like, actually make it a sword.

01:51:57.000 That thing? 0.97

01:51:58.000 Yeah, the Master Sword from Zelda is actually just a big piece of metal.

01:52:02.000 It's not actually a sword.

01:52:04.000 But, you know, we'll do that.

01:52:07.000 Alright, let's read some Super Chats. 0.58

01:52:11.000 Okay.

01:52:12.000 Downey Jr.

01:52:13.000 says, hi Tim, please have a look at freespeechunion.org.

01:52:16.000 They provide legal support in the UK for cancel culture victims.

01:52:19.000 Douglas Murray is a director.

01:52:20.000 It's similar to what you suggested to James O'Keefe.

01:52:23.000 Search Nick Buckley story.

01:52:24.000 Interesting.

01:52:25.000 Yeah, that sounds cool.

01:52:26.000 freespeechunion.org.

01:52:28.000 I have the big fat blade here.

01:52:30.000 This would make a good real sword.

01:52:33.000 It is not real.

01:52:34.000 It is not sharp.

01:52:35.000 It has a plastic hilt that will shatter in two seconds if you actually tried to use that thing.

01:52:41.000 It's higher pitch than that.

01:52:42.000 Yeah!

01:52:43.000 Yeah, that's how he does it.

01:52:47.000 Okay, let's see.

01:52:49.000 Roberto Lara says, Tim, memes were basically the main focus in the game.

01:52:54.000 Metal Gear Rising, Revengeance.

01:52:55.000 Check it out, Tim or Ian.

01:52:57.000 Also, Cluck Cluck.

01:52:58.000 That's right, Roberto is the name of our rooster and Roberto Jr.

01:53:01.000 is his son.

01:53:02.000 I looked out the window about 8.30 this morning and I saw Tim walking like this with two chickens on his arms.

01:53:08.000 Just walking.

01:53:09.000 I did have two chickens.

01:53:10.000 I thought it was hilarious. 0.74

01:53:11.000 We call them the poo babies because three babies hatched and they just, you know, because chickens just crap everywhere.

01:53:19.000 They'll like walk over to their food dish, eat, turn around, and just dump right into their food.

01:53:24.000 So, you know, that's what they do. 0.73

01:53:25.000 So gross. 0.91

01:53:26.000 Wow. 1.00

01:53:26.000 Yeah, the joke is that they're smart enough not to drink their water after they crap in it, but they're not smart enough not to crap in their own water. 1.00

01:53:34.000 That's chickens. 0.99

01:53:35.000 So yeah, they're big enough now.

01:53:39.000 I think they're at the pole hen stage.

01:53:41.000 No, no, they're not.

01:53:42.000 They're not.

01:53:42.000 They're still pullets.

01:53:43.000 But Roberto Jr.

01:53:44.000 is getting big.

01:53:46.000 He's Roberto's son.

01:53:47.000 He's going to be a rooster.

01:53:47.000 And he went... Like he tried.

01:53:49.000 He's trying.

01:53:50.000 Bless his heart.

01:53:51.000 Do you think he's getting trained by Roberto how to scream?

01:53:55.000 You know, interestingly, I was worried that the older chickens would abuse them.

01:53:58.000 And they did nip at them, like at their faces.

01:54:01.000 But for the most part, they're chill.

01:54:02.000 They're all super chill.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, the original older chickens, the parents and everything, just like look at them and like get all confused and look at me and then just walk away.

01:54:09.000 The most they do is they like, you know, jump at them and then just go back about their business to like shoo them away.

01:54:14.000 But yeah, yeah, the chicken babies are getting pretty big.

01:54:17.000 So I was trying to move them away from one another.

01:54:19.000 It was really funny to look out the window and see Tim walking with chickens on his arms.

01:54:22.000 Two of them.

01:54:23.000 And it looked really balanced.

01:54:24.000 He was like the blind lady of justice. 0.96

01:54:30.000 Royal Wolf says Ian fingers cows confirmed.

01:54:33.000 I never have, technically.

01:54:35.000 But Alex Jones did.

01:54:37.000 Technically never.

01:54:38.000 Just in my mind.

01:54:40.000 Alex confirmed that it does feel good.

01:54:43.000 to put your finger in a cow's mouth. You just don't want to upset the cow while you're doing it.

01:54:47.000 And you want to make sure it's a kind of... I mean, don't do it. I'm not saying to do it.

01:54:51.000 I'm just saying.

01:54:51.000 I genuinely would not have guessed that Alex Jones would have that level of expertise.

01:54:55.000 His dad is a farmer.

01:54:56.000 There it is. His dad, yeah.

01:54:58.000 Interesting.

01:54:59.000 Manifested Destiny says, I think Sanjay was a compromise between Rogan and CNN to avoid litigation.

01:55:05.000 Sanjay laid down for CNN.

01:55:07.000 Joe got to humiliate him.

01:55:08.000 I think Joe figured out when too much money is too much money.

01:55:12.000 Yeah, I wonder if Joe reached out and had a legal letter, and they were like, what can we do?

01:55:17.000 And then maybe?

01:55:19.000 Maybe.

01:55:19.000 You'd rather humiliate him?

01:55:21.000 I don't think Sanjay just goes, maybe.

01:55:24.000 Maybe Sanjay didn't know.

01:55:26.000 To Joe's audience, Sanjay Gupta saying you are right, I mean, that kind of resolves a lot of the defamation claim, right?

01:55:32.000 Yeah, but then why would they let their own people double down and claim that they weren't right?

01:55:35.000 That's true.

01:55:36.000 It doesn't make sense that CNN would let Lemon and Aaron Burnett have Sanjay on to make him recant.

01:55:43.000 Yeah.

01:55:44.000 Gotta sue him.

01:55:45.000 Manuel Delgado says, Tim and Will, you complain and rag on the Republicans.

01:55:49.000 Fail to acknowledge the majority are boomers and corporate shills. 0.92

01:55:52.000 We need young blood running this country.

01:55:54.000 William, you sound more like a rhino. 0.96

01:55:56.000 Oh, savage. 0.98

01:55:58.000 That's fired.

01:56:00.000 That's an insult.

01:56:02.000 I think Republicans should win and it's good that we're Trumpist

01:56:06.000 except that I don't think...

01:56:08.000 I think rhino's a compliment.

01:56:09.000 I mean... Rand Paul is a Rhino, you know why?

01:56:11.000 Yeah.

01:56:11.000 Because he's the outlier.

01:56:13.000 The Republican Party is the party of McConnell and Lindsey Graham.

01:56:16.000 Rand Paul's, like, the one guy who's actively, like... Josh Hawley.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, and Hawley... Yeah, like, I don't know how you... I mean, if you think that Josh Hawley and Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz and Cotton, like, Peter Thiel, my guys, are the Rhinos, then, like... 0.68

01:56:31.000 I don't know what Republican party you're a part of, but it's not the one I understand that exists.

01:56:36.000 And it's a very weird one.

01:56:38.000 It's like the people who said, basically, I wonder if the critique is that I'm not neocon enough or something.

01:56:42.000 I don't know.

01:56:43.000 I don't know.

01:56:45.000 Brandon D says Joe Rogan engaged Sanjay in verbal jujitsu and got the submission.

01:56:50.000 Of course.

01:56:51.000 He's Joe.

01:56:53.000 All right.

01:56:54.000 James Garlic says, Tim, I watch all of your content every day.

01:56:57.000 Unfortunately, I always have to go to your channel to watch your two daily Timcast as it's shadow band for me to keep up, uh, for me to keep up the good work.

01:57:05.000 All of you, you know, that's, uh, that's, that's, that's what YouTube does.

01:57:09.000 You can go to his channel and go through a bunch of videos, like open up like 30 or 40 of his videos and like them all.

01:57:14.000 And like a bunch of videos from the channel.

01:57:17.000 We don't want to call for spamming.

01:57:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:19.000 But that seems to tell the algorithm I want to see more of this.

01:57:21.000 No.

01:57:22.000 That's why I like stuff.

01:57:23.000 If somebody watches a video, they can press like.

01:57:25.000 Otherwise, you can find the channels, youtube.com.

01:57:28.000 They need to watch the video and then decide if they like it.

01:57:31.000 Right.

01:57:33.000 If you like it, you like it.

01:57:34.000 So be sure to like the videos you watch that you like.

01:57:36.000 Exactly.

01:57:36.000 Because that's what I've been doing with IRL and it pops up in my feed.

01:57:39.000 Yeah.

01:57:39.000 There you go.

01:57:41.000 Poofy says, yo, do that Ethan Klein impression again.

01:57:44.000 I don't remember how I did it.

01:57:45.000 You don't even have to read, bro.

01:57:48.000 You don't even have to read, bro.

01:57:49.000 You don't even have to think about it.

01:57:52.000 Yeah, I'm an independent voice.

01:57:54.000 That's right.

01:57:54.000 Yeah, that's me.

01:57:55.000 Is he really doing that show with Hasan?

01:57:57.000 Are they really doing that?

01:57:58.000 That was a joke?

01:57:59.000 I think it was a joke.

01:58:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:58:00.000 Because he's like...

01:58:04.000 Ethan Klein is well entitled to do commentary on pop culture and stuff, but man, telling people to purposefully be irresponsible and not actually consult doctors was just one of the most ridiculous things. 0.88

01:58:20.000 I thought the whole Crowder stunt was ridiculous.

01:58:22.000 The one where he agreed to a debate and then he brought on somebody else to do the debate that he had agreed to. 0.98

01:58:31.000 Dude's kind of weak.

01:58:32.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:58:33.000 I don't watch his content, but every time I hear about something he says or does, it's embarrassing and clownish.

01:58:41.000 Chris Crow says, Tim, your game room is lacking a pinball machine.

01:58:44.000 Yeah, pinball machines cost like $7,000.

01:58:46.000 Yeah, I was talking about that the other day.

01:58:48.000 That's a lot.

01:58:49.000 And they're really noisy.

01:58:51.000 But that was the first thing I wanted.

01:58:52.000 I was like, I want to get a pinball machine!

01:58:54.000 And then I looked at the price and I was like, I don't want to get a pinball machine anymore.

01:58:57.000 But the arcade machine with like 30,000 games on it was way cheaper.

01:59:00.000 Oh, I played some Mario Brothers today.

01:59:02.000 I'm talking the OG Mario Brothers.

01:59:04.000 That's a high score contest.

01:59:05.000 I think I can beat that because I got really far the first time I played on One Life.

01:59:11.000 All right.

01:59:12.000 Okay, Nick in the focus says, Tim, make an app with audio and or video.

01:59:17.000 My pocket keeps clicking off your videos while I'm working.

01:59:20.000 If you use the Brave browser, apparently this allows you to sleep your phone and have the audio keep playing.

01:59:26.000 Because Brave is awesome.

01:59:28.000 We use Brave.

01:59:29.000 Actually, you can see the little Brave symbol.

01:59:31.000 Brave is incredible.

01:59:32.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:59:35.000 Colin P. says Sanjay's book publisher sent him to Rogan, not CNN.

01:59:40.000 Interesting.

01:59:40.000 That's probably, I could see that for sure, right?

01:59:43.000 The book publisher being like, you need to build your own platform.

01:59:46.000 You need a chance to market this to a big audience.

01:59:48.000 I mean, it's one thing to just get a random small CNN hit.

01:59:51.000 It's another thing to be able to go on Rogan, which has a huge audience and then have their attention for hours.

01:59:57.000 Yeah.

01:59:57.000 Vince R. says, why hasn't anyone asked to spin that UFO?

02:00:01.000 I'm spinning it.

02:00:01.000 Spin it!

02:00:03.000 Ian is going to spin that UFO.

02:00:06.000 And if you're a real Adam Kregler fan, you know this isn't Adam's UFO.

02:00:10.000 His is silver.

02:00:11.000 Mine is black.

02:00:12.000 That's still my UFO.

02:00:14.000 Adam's UFO is still technically Tim's UFO.

02:00:16.000 If you're a real Adam Kregler fan, you would know that that was Tim's UFO.

02:00:18.000 So what happened one day is he was doing his show and my phone's Bluetooth was on while I was listening to some music video or something.

02:00:25.000 And when I walked past the hallway, it automatically connected to the UFO and then started playing music because it's a Bluetooth speaker.

02:00:32.000 That's amazing and hilarious.

02:00:34.000 Yeah, and then... it was funny.

02:00:36.000 I know you're out there, Adam.

02:00:38.000 I've convinced a 23-year libertarian not to vote DeSantis.

02:00:42.000 Oh, nice.

02:00:42.000 I saw that one.

02:00:43.000 Yeah, Daniel Williams says, OK, I don't like Will anymore, and you have convinced a 23-year libertarian not to vote DeSantis.

02:00:48.000 Why?

02:00:49.000 Well, I mean, I'm not a libertarian, so my arguments are not libertarian.

02:00:52.000 So it's unsurprising that I am not persuasive to libertarians.

02:00:54.000 To libertarians.

02:00:55.000 All right.

02:00:57.000 KJ9109 says, you talked about artists being shut down.

02:01:00.000 This is part of why NFTs are blowing up.

02:01:03.000 The art is immutable on the blockchain with a vibrant counterculture forming.

02:01:06.000 Curio cards, crypto punks, and rare pepes were early trailblazers creating.

02:01:11.000 Check out what artists are doing.

02:01:13.000 We are going to be launching a bunch of NFTs.

02:01:16.000 So we're going to be doing, you know, you know, I think one of the best things that anyone can do for especially a show like this is sell and give away as much of our stuff as possible.

02:01:25.000 So like Ian's Obsidian Room.

02:01:27.000 Oh, I love these things.

02:01:28.000 We could, we could do a giveaway, you know, where we like, we'll do like half to charity and half to the company or whatever to support our journalists.

02:01:35.000 Or we can be like for Open Network Foundation.

02:01:37.000 So we could say something like, you know, uh, we have, uh, yeah, like Ian's Obsidian Rock could be put up and like, if you want to get this, it's Ian's rocks.

02:01:44.000 He has everyone, he hands them to everybody.

02:01:46.000 And then that money can go to fund the Open Network Fund.

02:01:48.000 These are great by the way.

02:01:49.000 This is a wonderful, like almost fidget spinner type thing.

02:01:52.000 And then we're going to do NFT is the same thing.

02:01:54.000 So there can be like an NFT version, and then someone could buy it.

02:01:57.000 And then we use that money to fund the nonprofits, the charities, the fact checking.

02:02:00.000 Something I want to do with the nonprofit charity that we just started is not only will be paying the developers that are building out the metaverse, but I think we can use charity funds to host a node to actually host bandwidth.

02:02:11.000 And that can be like part of the charity function.

02:02:13.000 Yep, server space, actually, you know, making it work.

02:02:16.000 So we're gonna do NFTs, we're gonna do event auctions, we're gonna do a whole bunch of stuff.

02:02:20.000 And, you know, the most important thing, I think, for people is that, you know, having a part of the show, having a part of the art, having something that, like, allows you to be a part of it and have something unique no one else can have.

02:02:30.000 Like, if we sold this, like, only you would have it.

02:02:34.000 Only the one person who got it would actually have it.

02:02:37.000 And that would be you, Unique, along with the NFTs.

02:02:39.000 With that being said, my friends, make sure you smash that like button.

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02:03:03.000 Sure, yeah.

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02:03:48.000 I would only ask, Lydia, that you cue up the wide shot. 0.99

02:03:51.000 I want you guys at home to, wherever you are listening, to see if you can spot that gorilla with the obsidian between his legs when this shot comes up.

02:03:58.000 Let me see if I can do it.

02:03:59.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:04:00.000 Only give them a few seconds of it, though.

02:04:01.000 See if they can spot it in time.

02:04:02.000 Okay, there we go.

02:04:03.000 We need to do a fake credits so that we can do the wide shot.

02:04:06.000 Yeah, we do.

02:04:06.000 And we'll play like... Just put Orwell in there.

02:04:09.000 Put 1984, the whole book, but make it go really fast.

02:04:12.000 That'd be great.

02:04:13.000 I love that.

02:04:14.000 You guys, I am also having – oh, here.

02:04:16.000 See?

02:04:16.000 I have to switch the camera still and I always forget to do it.

02:04:18.000 You're getting good at it.

02:04:20.000 Trial by fire.

02:04:21.000 Oh, cool.

02:04:22.000 I'm also having a similar fight with Instagram right now.

02:04:25.000 They're taking down my old memes.

02:04:27.000 I've never posted anything unkind, nothing rude, nothing bullying, and they're threatening to take my whole account down over stuff that I posted well over a year ago.

02:04:35.000 So if you guys would like to follow me on Instagram, I am at RealSourPatchLids over there.

02:04:39.000 And on Twitter, I am SourPatchLids.

02:04:40.000 Thanks, guys.

02:04:41.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com for that special members-only segment.

02:04:46.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 14, 2021

Timcast IRL - Democrats Prepare To ARREST Steve Bannon For Contempt w-Will Chamberlain

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