On this episode of the podcast, Seamus and Tim are joined by Jack Murphy to discuss the latest in politics and pop culture, including the new anti-vaccination bill that passed the House of Representatives and is now in effect in the Senate.
00:00:29.000Basically what they're saying is, If you oppose us, we will nuke your company.
00:00:38.000Because look, a company might have a hundred employees.
00:00:41.000But let's say, you know, let's say they're bringing in with a hundred employees, seven, eight mil per year, and their profits are only 15% of that, or something like around there.
00:00:51.000They're basically saying, if you don't do as you're told, we are going to absolutely destroy your life.
00:01:06.000Because they don't have the same standard for the illegal immigrants the border patrol agents are trying to stop.
00:01:12.000So everything is just backwards, broken, upside down.
00:01:14.000But despite all that, There are a lot of people that are really optimistic on the right and those who are in opposition to the establishment, more populist individuals, because the abysmal ratings, approval rating, for Joe Biden signals in 2022 Republicans are going to sweep in.
00:01:29.000The only problem with that is who expects Republicans to do anything?
00:02:26.000I'm not the middleman, just talk to him!
00:02:28.000I was on the line with both of you, with my little rotary phone laying on my bed with my feet up, and I would like switch back and forth between calls.
00:03:25.000I got literally hundreds of emails, thousands of tweets at me.
00:03:29.000And, you know, I got to say that everyone that said something in public was kind of snippy, but everybody that sent me something in private was very heartfelt.
00:03:38.000And so it's just clearly a debate that's ongoing and a lot of people are dealing with it.
00:05:18.000Yeah, but don't think too deeply into it, my pajamas are dirty.
00:05:22.000Yeah, this is my last case scenario, I wear jeans if everything else is dirty.
00:05:27.000I went to Ian's room to tell him that Seamus was coming back with Jack, and he was sitting in his yoga pose, levitating in the middle of his room, light emitting from his eyes, and I was like, it was a loud boom, and I'm like...
00:05:39.000Like, through the void, I could hear him.
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00:09:26.000I got that. No, so I got that tangled because I was reading a Snopes article which rated the
00:09:32.000claim false that illegal immigrants are being let into the country without COVID testing.
00:09:36.000It says mostly false and then when you read the section that says what's true at the bottom it says there are also many reports of lack of testing in ICE detention centers so like they literally are letting people in.
00:09:46.000I mean they find a way to spin it the way they spin it is Well, they're not behind the surge in cases across the country, which isn't the claim that they say they're debunking.
00:09:54.000We had, we had Jorge and Sagnic on the other day, who were literally down at the border, who would literally stand in front of these people and say, were you tested?
00:10:03.000But it's, it's, it's, you know, that, that specific issue, and we'll get to this story in a second, is border patrol agents have a VAX mandate, and these, the people who are just entering the country illegally, like, Yeah, and also like... Alright, this country's doing fine, I guess.
00:10:15.000Like, the idea that you could just adequately test 220,000 people per month pouring over the border, that's incredibly difficult.
00:10:21.000Like, no one's gonna slip through the cracks.
00:11:17.000You know, when I see Ian say something like this, I see this cherub little face and these bright eyes being like, the government wouldn't lie to us to pass the law.
00:12:22.000Like this is actually going to be a law, which makes it 10 times worse because it actually legitimizes it because our representatives are going to vote on it and then it will actually become a legitimate law.
00:12:30.000Look, within reason, I'm okay with the legislature being like, we have decided we'll pass this law.
00:12:37.000What's happening here is the Democrats are like, you know, normally this wouldn't pass because you'd have opposition from Republicans, but it's a spending bill.
00:12:46.000We're going to just slide whatever into this 2,465 page bill that no one's going to read and then journalists started reading it and then all of a sudden they're like, whoa, you want to fine people $700,000 for not test mandating vaccines at the workplace?
00:13:11.000You have an HR department, you spin them off into a subsidiary HR company.
00:13:15.000More like you were saying, Jack, a lot of people are going to hire Indian citizens, people from wherever in the world that's not the United States, because it doesn't fall under the same sort of mandates.
00:14:22.000So I was at the airport and I was taking my shoes off to go through security.
00:14:26.000And I thought to myself, Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
00:14:28.000Just one more person takes their shoes off.
00:14:30.000I was taking off my shoes and my belt and my jacket to go through airport security when the guy noticed I had a small shampoo bottle and a bottle of water.
00:14:36.000So I went to go throw it away and then he found nail clippers and then I was being detained and they asked me questions.
00:14:41.000And did you, you know, I was trying to think, like, it's always been this way, right?
00:15:15.000Well, YouTube just announced, you know, and we'll get into those, we'll maybe talk about a bit more censorship in a minute, but they announced they're banning all this, anything that's anti-vaccine or whatever.
00:15:23.000Because they go through, they take routes, the establishment, whether intentional or not, this is the way authoritarianism flows.
00:15:30.000Routes that are reasonably hard to disagree with.
00:15:34.000Well, most people are like, they're good.
00:15:36.000So they use that as a path towards, you know, these special interests, politicians, corrupt individuals, over time, just a natural pressure, will start to impose restrictions.
00:15:45.000But you don't want, the average person is like, well, I'm not against vaccines, right?
00:15:56.000And I'm like, well, you should go to a doctor.
00:15:58.000I mean, you shouldn't just because your friends told you to.
00:16:00.000But see, here's what's going to happen.
00:16:01.000Do you guys remember when famous libertarian Robbie Suave tweeted that if there was a choice between masks and a business with a mask mandate or a vaccine mandate, I would choose the vaccine mandate because I'm already vaccinated.
00:16:17.000And a lot of IEW types people quoted this and said, this is exactly what we're saying.
00:16:22.000It's not unreasonable to get vaccinated.
00:16:24.000Most people are like, okay, I'll do it.
00:16:26.000So you get someone like Bill Maher saying, sure, why not?
00:16:28.000Then once everybody has it, 98%, like Biden says, they're going to say, just get the app.
00:17:33.000There was a law professor who said, did anybody notice this weird, like thing on everyone's homepage that says legal experts say Biden's plan is lawful according to precedent.
00:17:43.000Which is what you have to tell people all the time when you're doing something legal.
00:17:45.000Look, everything I'm doing is perfectly legal.
00:17:48.000If you have to say that repeatedly, it's probably a good sign.
00:17:50.000This law professor was like, this is disinformation.
00:19:36.000Stargate was actually, they were trying to do psychic experiments in the army.
00:19:41.000Yeah, and apparently, as around 2012, things started to converge and they can't really see any other possible future than this one that we're headed towards, which is singularity, awakening of consciousness, or But they're preparing for the other reality of like are we gonna have to live underground?
00:19:56.000Because of some Holocaust on the on the surface like some horrible solar flare Yeah, or or yeah, whatever firestorm or whatever.
00:20:03.000I mean, that's that's you see we were talking about like the establishment politicians lying to us and then Ian just like the awakened like you're saying about the hundred it's because of the times be This emergent awakening is, like, inevitable.
00:20:15.000Like, Trump woke people up in a way that, like, was uncomfortable.
00:20:31.000Here's what you guys need to understand.
00:20:33.000When we're sitting here talking, and we're going through a conversation, Ian calculates very quickly everything we're saying and so to someone who doesn't understand I mean this sincerely to someone who doesn't like you can't know what Ian's thinking when he all of a sudden says the CIA program there was a thought process where he was like the lies the manipulation people have come out speaking out against it and then Ian jumps into
00:20:58.000I must have fallen down a wormhole here, because Ian said something crazy, and then Tim not only defends it, but explains it, and rationalizes it, instead of just start screaming it out.
00:21:08.000Instead of going, no, no, Ian, that's incorrect.
00:21:43.000It's one of the best whiskeys I've ever had.
00:21:44.000And I gotta just make one comment too.
00:21:47.000I noted in your liquor cabinet two weeks ago that you had this incredible gin, the Botanist, 22 year old gin.
00:21:53.000It's like, you know, I really love a good aviation, which is like an old timey drink with creme de violette in there.
00:21:59.000And I come back two weeks later and not only is there creme de violette, but there's an actual bartender behind the bar saying, sir, would you, would you like an aviation?
00:22:07.000He's actually the executive editor of TimCast.com.
00:23:48.000You can give financial advice, legal advice, or medical advice, but then you're liable for like, you know, someone will be like, Seamus told me to take the fork!
00:23:54.000And would it be the stream that it was set on would also become liable?
00:23:57.000So like there's chains of liability if you start doing it?
00:24:17.000It's like Flintstones. You do no one laughs. Yeah, you took no one laughs. So I guess it wasn't that good of a bit
00:24:23.000You know, I felt the tension in the room Tim was like no it was like I will shoot you. These guys
00:24:28.000are all drunk What i'm so you know, I gotta say i'm very i'm very
00:24:32.000optimistic I'm way more optimistic today than I was yesterday
00:24:35.000I realized last night that I thought i'd been building out the fetaverse because we've been working on this
00:24:39.000decentralized social media app Basically that's gonna connect people what we're really
00:24:43.000building is the metaverse which is ultimately artificial intelligence augmented reality
00:24:47.000reality, finance and social media conglomerating and do it like an internet 3.0
00:24:52.000But we're starting with... We're building the first leg of it, which is the Fediverse-ish social media aspect of it.
00:24:57.000Decentralized, self-sustaining social media tools for people who want to run their own, you know, have their own internet presence in any capacity.
00:25:05.000And other people are building the other legs as we're doing it, and I'm finding today that people are contacting me, and then we're merging, you know, software.
00:25:13.000This is why crypto is so important right now.
00:25:15.000I want everyone to remember exactly Jack's reaction when he was like, there's no reserve requirement for banks.
00:26:30.000So I think we would all agree that inflation is occurring and is going to get worse, but the question is, will the real estate bubble outpace inflation?
00:26:42.000I think there could be a crash, but I'm not a financial expert.
00:26:48.000Look, if you just value the land in terms of dollars, you have a fixed amount of land, and you get more dollars, well, that's just gonna go up in dollar value.
00:28:30.000So I laughed at Ian, but now he's laughing at me.
00:28:32.000But I got a lot of cheap opals last night.
00:28:33.000I want everyone to just remember, it's gonna be in like five years, you're gonna be on the side of the road going like, I need opals, and Ian's gonna walk up with a shiny suit encrusted in opal, spinning his opal cane, and he's gonna be like, I got your opals right here, 50 bucks.
00:29:34.000Our economy has actually been designed over the past 50 years to disincentivize savings, so most people don't.
00:29:39.000And they'll come out here with these, you know, The left will tote these studies, and the right doesn't discuss it as often, but the left will tote these studies saying, oh, the average person doesn't have enough saved up to get them through an emergency if one occurs.
00:29:51.000But what they don't point out is that is not the result of inadequate social welfare spending.
00:29:54.000The reason for that is because we are constantly inflating our currency and people know that their money isn't going to be worth as much in the future as it is today.
00:30:01.000So you actually alter their time preference and make them more likely to spend in the moment.
00:30:04.000The idea behind this is that stimulates the economy.
00:30:07.000But of course, what you're doing is taking from the future because people aren't saving as much.
00:30:12.000And that they're also not learning to defer their appetites, which is a really important part of having a civil society.
00:30:18.000I thought you were just the cartoon guy.
00:31:00.000But the thing is, even if I was just buying stupid short-term pleasures, in some ways, if inflation gets bad enough, that almost would have been better.
00:31:06.000Right, because now you won't be able to afford it with that same amount of money.
00:31:08.000What if you bought a house at you know 3.5% or something yeah or 5% and
00:31:13.000Inflations at 14. No yeah exactly exactly so I get them in better. Oh, here's the thing. I don't understand right like
00:31:20.000I I understand how they manipulate the CPI.
00:31:23.000I understand how they back out goods and services that are going up because they want to get to core CPI.
00:31:27.000I understand how they don't account for productivity gains.
00:31:30.000I understand how they game that system.
00:31:32.000But the one system that doesn't get gamed is the deepest and most liquid market in the world, which is the bond market.
00:31:45.000And so that person who is willing to borrow or loan you that money, all this millions and billions of dollars is willing to loan you that money for 30 years.
00:31:55.000I don't know what the fixed rate is right now, but I think it's like 5% or less at 5%.
00:31:58.000So the most sophisticated people in the world with the most amount of money, with the most at risk, With the most on the line, really, hedge fund managers, pension fund managers, all these people, they're willing to invest that money for 30 years at less than 5%, which means that they don't think that inflation is real.
00:33:08.000But when you're loaning money away for 30 years, you're locking yourself in for 30 years.
00:33:12.000This is a guy, these are people that have billions and billions and billions of dollars and they're like, I'm going to give it to you for 30 years and you only have to pay me 5%.
00:34:29.000I have been in the penthouse suite of a billionaire, and it was just like, they have this $50 million Swiss property that they just don't care about.
00:35:05.000Again, I'm going to get in trouble with this.
00:35:06.000I was asking you questions about Millie last week, you know, or last time, and people were like, you should have heard the way Jack was shilling for Millie.
00:35:15.000I was like, dude, I was just asking some questions.
00:35:18.000And by the way, the very next day I had on Kash Patel, the Chief of Staff of the Department of Defense, and asked him those questions in particular, just to get the whole thing out there.
00:35:26.000But no, it's just fascinating to me to see that maybe the financial system is broken.
00:35:31.000If you could take a loan, a bond loan of a million dollars and then invest that at 5%, invest that into something and then double your money.
00:36:49.000Dude, they removed the gates that were restricting the flow, and now it's just unleashed, and rich people are snatching up assets like crazy, and poor people are gonna be left holding an empty bank.
00:37:03.000And this is what we were saying was gonna happen years ago, right?
00:37:09.000Rich people got all the money from the ballot, they got these incredibly low interest loans or no interest loans, and then what they were able to do is buy up all the assets from small businesses that shut down because they had to go through the SBA, which was processing over the course of two weeks, what they're used to processing over an entire year, or like 10 times what they're used to processing over an entire year.
00:37:25.000So a bunch of small businesses shut down, the millionaires and billionaires are able to buy all that stuff up, and then we end up with a massive consolidation of corporate power, and people go, we need to tax the But there's so many weird forces at work, too.
00:37:37.000Like, right now, if you've got a renter in your property and they're not paying rent, you can't kick them out.
00:37:39.000destruction of the small business and now they're saying we're going to fine you.
00:37:43.000You know these aren't these are still technically small businesses with 100 employees but now
00:40:03.000The reason they had that system was because if you lived there, you voted.
00:40:08.000But now you see, like Matt Walsh has poked a big hole in that.
00:40:11.000Did you see he wanted to go speak at Loudoun County and then they wouldn't let him because he wasn't a resident.
00:40:16.000So he rented property and he's like, now I'm a resident.
00:40:18.000But it's like, okay, he's showing that you really should have to live there for like four years, a long period of time.
00:40:23.000I've actually looked We've looked into this a few times.
00:40:25.000Now I want to have more clarification.
00:40:27.000I'm going to tell one story real quick.
00:40:28.000We've been looking at jurisdictions by land, maybe jurisdictions with not a lot of people in them that have sheriff's offices and school boards and stuff.
00:40:35.000So maybe we move enough people there, we take over a sheriff's office, right?
00:41:47.000When people are like, everyone please, vote for this thing!
00:41:51.000And then as soon as it happens they're like, haha, later suckers!
00:41:55.000Wow, now we're watching this free fall.
00:41:58.000Economic crisis, labor shortages, gas prices, inflation, the border, Afghanistan, and the people who vote for it, at least this one guy is like, I'm out!
00:42:18.000So maybe it should be on a space, but I can imagine someone getting in there and co-opting it and being like, yes, now we can all, people are like, no.
00:43:08.000People are going to vote for what they think is best for them, not the community.
00:43:11.000It's kind of like in that metaphor to be like a house of 10 people and then like another guy moves in, an 11th person who doesn't, his name's not on the lease, but you give him voting power.
00:44:23.000Not because we hate people or we oppose freedom or we're bigots, it's because we're literally like, hey, economy means household management, from the Greek oikonomia.
00:44:32.000So we're quite literally talking about managing the household in an effective way so that we are growing, not collapsing.
00:44:39.000But when you allow people who don't live to come in, they're going to be like, I vote to eat his portion and then they take it and they leave.
00:44:46.000So people need to have ties to the community.
00:44:48.000So yes, you have to live there for a certain amount of time or be a citizen.
00:44:52.000A legal resident is what they're talking about is eroding the system.
00:44:56.000You can live here but you're not a citizen.
00:45:03.000So if someone wants to crash in my house and sleep on the couch for a little bit, that's fine, but they're not going to be voting on what cable provider we're going to be getting.
00:45:10.000If they want to move in, put a deposit down, pay rent, we'll talk about them being a full resident.
00:45:15.000Or you could say people with green cards have to go through a different process other than citizenship that will allow them to vote in their local community.
00:45:23.000I'm just saying if you're not a citizen, you should not be able to vote.
00:45:25.000It's not as if granting these people who are not American citizens the right to vote in any election is going to be the end of it and the left is going to go, okay, they have the adequate rights that we should be giving to non-citizens.
00:45:35.000They're just going to keep pushing to give them more voting power in other situations.
00:45:37.000They'll go, oh, see, we allow them to vote in local elections.
00:45:43.000Right, the new federal requirement for voting in a presidential election will be, are you eligible to vote in any jurisdiction in America?
00:45:51.000And then when the Republicans are like, we don't think this is good, the Democrats are going to go, they're trying to stop people from voting!
00:45:57.000They're suppressing voter rights, that's exactly what it is.
00:45:59.000It is absolutely insane when you look at how far our system of election has been eroded and destroyed.
00:46:05.000And now we're at the point where there's universal mail-in voting, which the left will tell you makes it easier for everyone to vote.
00:46:10.000It makes it easier for a whole- First of all- Including people who shouldn't vote.
00:46:17.000When you live in a city with extreme population density, two activists can hit a thousand doors, knocking on those doors, to advocate for their candidate, and a Republican would require ten times the amount of distance and energy and money to cover because they're rural and they're spaced out.
00:46:32.000That alone Should be a red flag as to why we need some kind of standard uniform process for voting that we actually assess.
00:46:40.000What I mean by that is it shouldn't be, well actually I should rephrase that, it shouldn't be just this blanket everyone gets to do X because it doesn't affect every area the same way.
00:46:50.000Money is used differently in different jurisdictions.
00:46:52.000The reason why the Democrats are so dead set, one of the reasons, universal mail-in voting, is not because, and I know a lot of people on the right get mad about this, mass fraud or anything.
00:48:41.000These non-US citizens voting in localities.
00:48:44.000So over the past couple of years we've seen stories out of California and New York where they allow this and they say it's just for like schools and things like this.
00:48:53.000It makes sense because they have kids in the schools and you go, Okay, I guess that makes sense and the next day they go look the kids are in the schools.
00:49:00.000They're using the streets They're driving on buses.
00:49:03.000They should have a say in how taxes are being spent their kids are already They already vote on the school board one by one.
00:49:08.000They will keep pushing until eventually it's like how long have you been here, sir?
00:49:12.000I just got here 15 minutes ago from El Salvador.
00:49:16.000And thank you for choosing our president Yeah No, well, you know part of this comes from the Supreme Court decision that says that anybody that shows up on the schoolhouse steps Must be educated Right.
00:49:28.000Did you know that one point in time you had to be a citizen to get educated interesting?
00:49:33.000Yeah now literally anybody who shows up at the door and And it can say it can show that they live here. Like, here's
00:50:14.000However, the point was, you could be there and they'd be like, look, we have citizens.
00:50:19.000The reason they're citizens is because we know who's a part of the community, who's pitching in, who's doing the work, who's being conscripted, who's in the fire brigade.
00:50:26.000We can't have some strange person who's not a part of this coming in and changing what we do, so they have these rules.
00:50:32.000I think people need to understand, though, the scale of population growth.
00:50:36.000There were 2 million people in the colonies at the time of the revolution.
00:50:47.000Yo, if an Occupy Wall Street protest, when they had like, you know, 20,000 people marching through the street, If that group of people were marching on a battlefield, they'd be like, what great country has such a mighty force?
00:50:59.000It's like, oh, that's just a bunch of college kids who are bored.
00:51:02.000And they'll be like, oh, so it'll be easy for us.
00:51:24.000So you didn't, this, this is one of the impacts on the dating market actually, is that women can look in their phone and look at all of the most attractive men, the most appealing men from every city in America and vice versa.
00:51:45.000Not to be the feminist in the room, but I've totally seen it go both ways, though, where guys will be like, alright, I'm gonna look at these women on the internet.
00:51:53.000And I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with that.
00:51:55.000If you find someone who works better for you and they're not in your community, go for it.
00:51:57.000But let's break down what's happening to women.
00:52:01.000You go on a dating app, they look at their messages, and there's like, they've matched with everyone they've chosen.
00:52:47.000He goes on, he goes on websites and looks up creepy, crazy adult content, and then just isolates, plays video games, and then thinks he's a subhuman.
00:53:21.000There was a viral, there's the r slash Tinder, and there was a message where someone like messaged a woman, or I think, I don't think it was Tinder, I don't know what, it was cringe, it was a cringe thing on Reddit.
00:53:31.000And they were like messaging a woman saying, why do women claim they want, you know, intelligent men but then choose, you know, really dumb, built guys?
00:53:40.000Why won't they spend time talking to us subhumans and things like that?
00:53:44.000There was this story I read about incels, involuntary celibates, where apparently some journalist actually found out they were all rather average dudes.
00:53:53.000They weren't subhuman, they weren't gross, they weren't ugly, they had good careers, but they thought they were because they could not get a relationship.
00:54:00.000This whole, all this internet's doing is making, it's polarizing, it's pulling out the extremes in basically everything, from politics to dating to economics.
00:54:11.000I mean, look at superstars, look at the apes.
00:54:13.000Everything is dialed up to 11 because of the internet, because of the speed of communication.
00:54:17.000So here's, I want to throw this out there.
00:54:19.000I agree with you that the internet has accelerated a lot of those very unfortunate social changes, but I would say that that's a product of the sexual revolution and not the internet itself.
00:54:28.000The fact that people are pursuing meaningless sexual relationships and hooking up with other people rather than trying to get married and build families is a huge part of why women will gravitate to a smaller minority of men.
00:54:40.000In a natural setting or in a decent culture, I should say, where people understand that the purpose of sexuality is unity and procreation and they want to get married and have children, you're looking for someone who's going to be a stable marriage partner and not necessarily the Chad or the Stacy to use these terms.
00:54:55.000And so if you had the internet being used by virtuous people to find a decent spouse, we wouldn't have this problem.
00:55:02.000But what happens is someone's just, the woman may be looking for a spouse to be honest, but the guys who match with her are not.
00:55:07.000And so then they end up having a lot of meaningless sexual encounters.
00:55:11.000And then when they're older, and of course there's no meaningless sexual encounter, right?
00:55:16.000And then It breaks off and everyone's hurt in some way.
00:55:19.000And she ends up unhappy because she doesn't find a long-term partner.
00:55:23.000She found some dudes who wanted to use her body.
00:55:25.000And then you end up with, like you said, a class of men who a lot of women won't talk to because, well, they are pursuing men who just want them for the short term.
00:55:33.000They're not looking at the guys who actually would be interested in being with them for the long term.
00:56:06.000I started using it in 2013 as a social experiment for minds because we were looking at implementing dating software into the website, kind of like a chat roulette type thing, and then I kind of got addicted to it.
00:56:18.000She's a good friend of mine to this day, and I still use it from time to time, but I feel so depressed and dirty when I do, and it's very unaffected, especially out in the country like this.
00:56:28.000Well, the idea of just swiping on people like that, too.
00:57:19.000So, like, if you got rated highly enough, they just put you in this whole other category and all you saw were other people that were highly rated.
00:57:25.000And so, like, I once started a second account and, like, Put up bad pictures of yourself.
00:57:32.000I started the second account and I was like, wait, I thought that there was just nothing but good looking women on OkCupid.
00:57:38.000And then I started the second account.
00:57:39.000I'm like, well, actually, that is not the case.
00:57:42.000Someone actually requested that we build dating software with the Timcast model.
00:57:46.000And I think maybe if we do like open source, so you see the algorithms not forcing you to look at what it thinks you Look, I for Jack for Jack brunch.
00:57:55.000Okay, Jack brunch come down on a Sunday afternoon after church.
00:57:59.000There's like 50 dudes and a bunch of women, but 50 dudes, you know that they like masculinity, they're into brotherhood, they're into sovereignty, they're red pilled, they're fit, they're strong, they make money, they're well dressed.
00:58:15.000Well, there's the other thing too, even outside of the internet, unfortunately, many of the social avenues available for young people are very nefarious.
00:58:22.000And a lot of that is because we don't have a church centered community in this country anymore.
00:58:26.000And so people will go out to a bar or a club to meet someone, which is not necessarily where you're guaranteed to meet a high quality person.
00:58:34.000Who's going to be interested in a long-term relationship.
00:58:37.000Yeah, I wonder what people's expectations are.
00:58:39.000And again, I have lived, like, I have gone through, like, a hedonist phase for many years, and I've explored all kinds of stuff, and I've come to the conclusion that, for me, I want to be in a long-term committed relationship, and that's why I'm getting married.
00:58:57.000Like, guys think that they're gonna be able to have a lot of girls and have hookups or whatever, or women think they're gonna find their dream man.
00:59:03.000Like, people's expectations and the whole approach to it need to be moderated, which they're not, because the guardrails of the healthy community, like you're talking about, have been totally stripped away, and people are just floundering about, sexual revolution, all these things.
00:59:18.000So I pulled up the blog from OkCupid, and it's what you see.
00:59:36.000On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve.
00:59:40.000Which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable.
00:59:44.000But with the basic rating so out of whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process.
00:59:50.000The most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren't good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway.
01:00:00.000I think, because they're rating men based on their appearance, I think women are much more likely to be with a man who they don't see as being inordinately physically attractive because they like his personality.
01:00:10.000I think that's way more likely to happen.
01:00:14.000So even though they're rating a lot of these guys as below average, I think a lot of them, if they knew them in real life, thought they had a good personality.
01:00:52.000These are fake, they're not real people.
01:00:54.000Like the hip to waist ratio, is it possible in modern circumstances?
01:00:58.000And when done right, what happens is it's not affecting guys the same way.
01:01:02.000Sure, guys are gonna be like, that's attractive, and then it's gonna skew their perception, but young women look at that woman, and then base themselves off of something that doesn't exist, and now we're getting young women getting plastic surgery to look like Instagram and Snapchat filters.
01:01:43.000To get to that stage, it's not normal.
01:01:44.000Now we're at the point where you could at least recognize if I train hard and then don't drink any water for a day, you'll be able to see all these, you know, muscles.
01:01:54.000There was a photo, I think it was of, it might have been Chris Hemsworth on the beach, Oh, no, no, no.
01:03:08.000But also, when a man is picking someone who he wants to marry, we have this culture where there's this dichotomy, right?
01:03:13.000You're either looking for someone to have a meaningless sexual encounter with, or you're looking for someone for a more serious long-term thing.
01:03:21.000Historically, if a man was looking for a marriage partner, he was going to be more selective than a lot of guys are when they go out and sleep around.
01:03:33.000Because the man decides to, to give up that urge of spreading the stamina.
01:03:38.000Well, and even, even when it's not sex, I think you're right that at, even when it's not sex, like if you're in a community of like churchgoers, people who are saving themselves for marriage or don't have sex, there is still this element of the woman being the gatekeeper for like the initial interaction or the mutual interest, something like that.
01:03:56.000And then the guy is more the gatekeeper for whether it progresses down the path of being something serious.
01:04:01.000I think we are going to see a substantial escalation in the transhumanist movement and not in the interesting sci-fi way, right?
01:04:11.000Transhumanist, back in the day, I remember when people talked about it, they were talking about cybernetic implants, sci-fi movies, integrating with Neuralink and virtual reality and things like that, which still could be pretty questionable.
01:04:22.000But now it's going to be identity crisis, which we're starting to see a lot of.
01:04:27.000For a while, there was like Otherkin and I don't know if you guys know about like the Tumblr stuff where people would say like they would claim to be an owl trapped in a human body or something like that.
01:04:37.000I know this girl who's like really, really super into Tumblr and she was telling me, no I'm kidding, but Um, I, I remember all of the memes that used to float around about that stuff.
01:04:48.000And unfortunately, some of it seared into my mind and the other kid were a really horrifying.
01:04:53.000I was thinking we were, are we going to say, I was just going to say that I have had a theory for a while that the reason why we see declining, uh, fertility rates in, in countries with advanced technology is because that we are moving towards some sort of evolutionary phase in which the technology is going to supplant the reproductive element.
01:05:11.000Yeah, like a genderless species that lives in deep space where we get really long and then we clone.
01:05:16.000Ian just took it right to like the highest level.
01:07:32.000Google incentivizes you to write content, to do research, to put information out on the internet so that you can get clicks, so that you get the dopamine.
01:07:41.000It's directly, Google search is directly connected to your neurotransmitters in your brain.
01:07:47.000And when somebody else out there clicks a button on your thing and you get in, it goes through space and all the way into your brain, it changes your brain chemistry.
01:07:55.000I, as a, I'm a Twitter professional, right?
01:07:57.000I don't feel bad saying that, but I should, but I do.
01:08:03.000But I do know, I do know that like Twitter is addictive.
01:08:22.000So it's basically, it looks like a smartphone, you know, call, text, and it has GPS, which is the reason I got it instead of a flip phone, but it's literally just that.
01:08:38.000Dude, I once installed, when I was writing my book, I installed on my Google Chrome this time limiter, and I assigned different websites to it, and after you used 15 minutes, it blocked it.
01:08:51.000And there's no way to actually unblock it unless you go through a series of 50 questions.
01:08:59.000And then eventually I would start downloading new browsers.
01:09:03.000And then I would start going through different browsers.
01:09:05.000I just found a way to get around the Roblox I had set up for myself.
01:09:08.000So a phone that doesn't have the capability or the ability to download those apps, that sounds like it might be Is that the, that's not the Wyze phone.
01:09:38.000The question is, humans gradually integrating with machines, and a future where human consciousness exists in machines expanding and drifting about space, good or bad?
01:09:58.000Because first of all, you will, and I'm sorry, I know people are going to disagree with me on this, this might spark an entire debate, but you will never have a human being's conscious mind sitting on a circuit board.
01:10:05.000What's going to happen is they're going to attempt to deconstruct a person's mind and have a computer simulate that, but you cannot literally move your consciousness out of your brain and into a computer.
01:11:11.000But yeah, this is a famous thought experiment.
01:11:14.000If you were teleported by having your entire body deconstructed and then reconstructed somewhere else, I would assume it would kill you and recreate you.
01:12:50.000I think that the chemicals that we'll use to build these circuit boards where our brains will.
01:12:54.000We'll be emulated is natural like silicon, lithium and stuff.
01:12:57.000It's all natural processes from the earth that we're reformatting and we call it synthetic, but it's still natural stuff that we've synthesized and it's inevitable.
01:13:05.000And if we don't do it, those that do will enslave and destroy the rest of us.
01:13:09.000But you're assuming that we know enough about consciousness to recreate it, and you're assuming that circuit boards we assemble.
01:13:17.000But the argument that's made is consciousness is just information processing at the level of the brain, and so if we get a computer to process information the right way, then it's going to be conscious.
01:13:47.000Well, and in science fiction, we see this a lot.
01:13:50.000I just, I genuinely, I don't believe that we are ever going to create a circuit board that there is something that it is like to be.
01:13:58.000And also, even if we could do that, which we can't, but even if we could, and we're able to, The idea that you could transfer your mind from your brain and body into that other thing, rather than just having something new being created or a computer simulating you, is also impossible.
01:14:16.000I want to see this guy play Detroit Become Human.
01:14:22.000It's like, there's a bunch of robots that are for like, they look like people and they're used for menial tasks and then they become sentient and then they demand freedom and there's like, you know, analogs to like slavery and stuff.
01:14:43.000You would be the first to die in Westworld.
01:14:44.000Well, and exactly because once they do create these machines that are clearly not conscious, but people believe is conscious just because they seem to be simulating thought.
01:14:54.000Because I'm going to say no, I'm going to be saying, no, there's no lights on in there and they're going to go equal rights for robots.
01:14:59.000And so then we're going to move resources that should be going to human wellbeing and comfort to making us feel like these circuit boards are happy, even though that's a completely absurd concept.
01:15:09.000I feel like the high status thing in the future will be to be as natural and human as possible.
01:15:14.000I feel like the plebs, the plebs, the plebs, the plebs are going to be the ones that get all circuited up and like turned into work machines and whatever.
01:15:23.000And like if you can preserve your actual bio body, that to me seems like it would be the highest status.
01:16:40.000I've had quite an evolution since the last time we've talked.
01:16:44.000And so I'm trying to think like this God, you know, spirit in me, how is it going to be recreated on a computer board?
01:16:50.000Well, it'll be like a mycelial creation that's like semi-synthetic.
01:16:55.000It'll be like a carbon, you know, silicon organism that you're remote viewing through, probably.
01:17:02.000Well, and this is what gets really interesting, right?
01:17:05.000Because I think we can imagine a scenario where somebody who is mentally disabled could have some kind of computer enhancement placed into their brain so they could operate at a normal level.
01:17:15.000And then the question becomes, at what point have you destroyed the brain to the point where the person is dead and now it's just circuit boards simulating that person's behavior?
01:17:28.000Now, I believe if you got to that point, the person would probably just be visibly dead.
01:17:32.000But if we develop biotechnical enhancements that are capable of emulating human behavior, like we've discussed, at what point would you know if it was still the person who was alive or the robot that took over?
01:17:46.000And what if the robot is a singular entity, and we assume it to be individual, like we see a person, it's Jack, he's acting like Jack.
01:17:53.000What we don't realize is that it's actually connected to a major grid of one singular computational force through the network, and then at some point, it unifies, and then every single person with these implants turns and says, we must prevent human expansion, and then all of them act the exact same way.
01:18:08.000If Sam Harris wasn't so impossible, it would be interesting to have a conversation with him about this, but I was thinking about my dog and I, and I say this about my dog all the time.
01:19:37.000I think it's magnetic field is part of its soul.
01:19:38.000Well, I think both things can be true.
01:19:40.000So, humans and animals, and this is what we believe as Catholics, is that humans and animals both have souls, but different kinds of souls.
01:19:46.000And so, the human has an eternal soul and a rational soul.
01:20:15.000I don't believe that they have eternal souls.
01:20:17.000I don't believe they have rational souls, but I believe they're animated by a soul.
01:20:19.000You know, I look at how chickens act, and I'm like, you know, when you say they're algorithms and programs, dogs I don't see as doing that.
01:20:26.000Dogs can have really unique personalities and behave in ways that you're surprised by and they can learn, but man, chickens are just like...
01:20:33.000I feel like I'm playing a video game where you just mass-produce these generic things that just function.
01:20:38.000That's how I feel watching the chickens.
01:21:30.000They have, they have the, uh, it's a psychological concept where they can understand that there's things outside of them and they can also understand object permanence.
01:21:38.000They can also understand that just because a thing isn't there, it still exists.
01:21:47.000It's because it's difficult to know how you could ever possibly know this, right?
01:21:50.000But they've done experiments where they've been able to theorize based on the results that certain very intelligent animals seem to know that they are different from their environment, which seems to be what you're saying.
01:22:11.000But they can sort of understand intuitively, it seems, based on these experiments, that they are a different thing from their environment.
01:22:18.000There are some animals that, only a few, I don't remember which ones, that pass the mirror test, where they'll put like a sticker on the forehead and then put them in front of a mirror and then the animal will look and then, you know, it's a chimp or an ape or something, they'll just take it off and be like recognizing themselves in a reflection.
01:22:46.000I've been hanging out the chickens too much.
01:22:48.000Our dog realized, because I think I remember when we were kids we had this big mirror in our front room and my brother was in the other room where the dog could only see him through a mirror and he held a treat up and the dog like bolted out sideways and like he knew that it was a reflection of me.
01:24:22.000Where Brendan Fraser goes into a coma and then goes to like some weird claymation universe and then a cartoon character he created takes over his consciousness?
01:24:48.000We had a 7-Eleven next to our Blockbuster so I remember being a little kid and then I'd come across five bucks somehow and I'd be like, oh, five bucks.
01:26:05.000Like we're talking about putting you into a computer again, I don't care how much you overclock the processor,
01:26:11.000you are not gonna run a human soul on that thing.
01:26:13.000And a lot of people would like to, and it's just wishful thinking.
01:26:18.000Honestly, I think a lot of it is they believe that at the end of life, that's just it, they won't go on, or some of them on some level know that they don't want to be judged by God at the end of their life, and so it's, I need to find some way to just extend it as far as possible, instead of thinking how they can live a good life now.
01:26:35.000I would be interested to see, of the scientists who believe it would be possible to get enough circuits together to recreate the human brain, how many of them are atheists?
01:26:45.000Probably most, because you would have to have a completely naturalistic interpretation of consciousness, right?
01:26:52.000I can't imagine believing in a soul and thinking that it could be placed onto a microchip.
01:26:55.000Right, because if you believe in a soul, if you believe in creation, if you believe in God, you believe that you're not God.
01:27:53.000So you think fungal spores are moving through space?
01:27:55.000Yeah, and they- they can live in deep space.
01:27:56.000And that's apparently- panspermia is the idea that spores landed in Earth's oceans and then grew over time into animal life and stuff like that.
01:28:02.000You- you guys gotta see the Cast Castle vlog.
01:28:05.000It's- it's- so we had Alex Jones over.
01:28:08.000He came on the show, and then, as part of the vlog, we do animations.
01:28:39.000I think that what happened was that the fungus landed in the ocean and then some of it started to eat plant matter and that stuff turned into fungus.
01:28:46.000And then the ones that ate other fungus became animals.
01:29:17.000There's actually, uh, there have been some hypotheses that fungus did not come to existence the same way other life on the planet did and may have come from space.
01:29:27.000But also you look at the way the moon smashed through Earth, like the planet Theia hypothesis is where there's like 26 planetoid bodies in the early solar system smashing into each other, and that's why you have this asteroid belt of collision.
01:29:38.000And at one point this planetoid smashed into Earth, it was in its orbit, and it came out the other side, this ball of magma cooled into what we know as the moon.
01:29:46.000So it's like a unique setup, what we got.
01:29:48.000So here's the question, I'm still very fascinated by this idea of fungus potentially having come from outer space.
01:29:53.000I mean, is it not composed of DNA and the same genetic building blocks that everything on Earth is composed of?
01:30:00.000What's fundamentally different about fungus that would necessitate we believe it came from space?
01:30:03.000Now we need to get, what's his name, the mycologist.
01:30:09.000I'm not going to pretend like it's true or anything.
01:30:13.000I was reading some scientific journal and they were like, you know, people have speculated.
01:30:16.000I've heard that people have speculated that mushrooms are what spurred the intellectual and emotional evolution of primates into human beings through creative energy and it came from other spaces, other places.
01:31:04.000If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, go to TimCast.com, sign up for that members-only exclusive content coming up later tonight.
01:31:14.000And put in your Super Chats now, because we're going to start reading a bunch of them.
01:31:47.000But they'll uncover the secrets of the universe, I'm sure.
01:31:49.000It's a conversation that should have happened in 2009, so the potential energy has increased so much that it's like the strong nuclear force at work.
01:31:56.000But once they fuse, then it's just chill.
01:31:59.000Michael Fernando Mello says, great show guys.
01:32:12.000Also, did you know that when the CDC researched this in the past, they found that guns are more often used defensively than they are for crimes?
01:34:35.000It's actually a scary concept in the show Stargate that there is beneath this mountain a portal that links to this network of all these other planets and alien technology and no one knows.
01:36:25.000One of the reasons that we wanted to have a large republic that was united under one system was because if we had a bunch of smaller states within this one continent, it'll just be a matter of time before we're just killing each other and shredding each other up into tiny little bits.
01:37:06.000you gotta die and they'll be like Virginia genocide in the state of Pennsylvania and then they'll be like border
01:37:12.000attacks and they'll Be like resource competition and poor access and there's a
01:37:15.000reason why we have a big country is to keep us all from killing each
01:37:18.000other I think, but see, I think you can achieve that without us all being governed under this unbelievably gigantic monolithic government that can tell everyone to do whatever they want to tell us to do at any time they ever chose.
01:37:33.000No, I acknowledge that there would be problems, but then it's the question, are those problems, would the problems with the national divorce truly be greater?
01:37:39.000I think everyone in this country should get together and secede Seamus from the Union.
01:37:43.000So that we can have a big party without him.
01:37:44.000Then I can't go back to Illinois with the boys?
01:37:47.000And then we're not even a troop anymore?
01:38:03.000Make 1984 Fiction Again says, The Omnibus spending bill last year was 1,500 pages and was distributed to Congress four hours before they had to vote on it.
01:38:46.000So I love the last thing about the people that are running our country, that the guy who is in the congressman, the house representative from your district is only the second most successful used car salesman in your town, because the first most successful one is still there selling cars.
01:39:01.000Caleb Welch says you are here with Alex Jones tonight has already been removed from YouTube Elijah and Sydney put here setting new records out here setting records hunter fuses I was listening to you are here live when the feed suddenly cut on me big tech be on their BS all because they had Alex Jones as a guest Oh, that's interesting.
01:39:42.000Alien Space Bone says, Tim, would 10 years ago you ever think we would end up, you would end up an M82 Totent Country Living Chicken Whisperer?
01:39:50.000Keep up the fantastic work, I really enjoy watching the growth and evolution of what you do.
01:39:53.000Yes, I, it was absolutely a possibility.
01:39:56.000Um, I've never been, like, opposed to guns.
01:39:59.000My position was always just, like, fairly moderate, like, well, I think there are some things we can do to have, you know, common sense.
01:40:04.000And so I was like, people want to have an M82 by all means.
01:40:06.000You just, you know, we got to talk about mental illness and things like that.
01:40:09.000Now I'm just like, it's a constitution.
01:40:27.000If I came to you guys 10 years ago and said, in 10 years, Donald Trump will have been president and on the way out there would have been A thousand people, like, breaking into the Capitol building, shutting it all down.
01:40:39.000You know, there'd be a pandemic, they'd shut everything down, people would be getting, you know, the government would be forcing them all to get vaccinated.
01:40:45.000In Australia, there's gonna be camps everywhere, where if you want to come in there, they take you and they put you there, and then people are sitting there, you can't take your mask off, people are getting arrested in the streets, there's riots, people...
01:41:25.000Mo Ro says, in the last year of my PhD in biomedical nanotechnology, $90,000 and 10 years of my life to science, and now I'm out because I won't bend the knee to authoritarians.
01:41:49.000I think Ian expressing the stuff that we can then respond to allows a lot of people who don't understand what's going on to understand.
01:41:57.000So this is what I talk to people about.
01:41:59.000What I don't want to do is have Often.
01:42:02.000I think we're a bit niche and esoteric in many capacities, but we definitely need people like Ian to ask questions that most people are asking when they're watching shows like this.
01:42:12.000You gotta understand, this is a character.
01:42:14.000I'm playing a function on TimCast's IRL right now so that this does not become an echo chamber.
01:42:20.000Just like, watch Ted Danson talk about his role on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
01:42:24.000He's playing a function to allow Larry to be crazier.
01:42:27.000Like, I'm here to make sure that we don't create an echo chamber.
01:42:30.000It's not just that, it's like, if, you know, when we talked about data in Star Trek, I immediately thought, there's a lot of people who are like, I have no idea what that means.
01:43:09.000A lot of people who watch, who are like, making these comments about Ian, are the people who know what's going on, and they're like, I don't need to hear this question!
01:43:16.000Ian's being naive and asking this, why am I?
01:43:17.000Because the average person who's watching might be like, I have no idea what that means, and then Ian asks it, and they go, oh!
01:43:24.000So it's hard for us to just, we assume people know what we know.
01:43:29.000So we have to have a different group of voices so that we try and have a broader conversation.
01:43:34.000I think that's one of the reasons the show works.
01:43:36.000For a lot of regular people who are like, I had never heard of that, and I didn't know what it was, and then you explained it to Ian, and now I get it.
01:44:36.000Because if it was just supposed to be a carbon tax, you could argue, well, then they could just increase the amount that they place on gasoline because then that's going to tax people who use more gasoline more rather than just putting the pace on the mile.
01:44:44.000I mean, this is a really terrible thing.
01:44:45.000Yes it is, because I was reading, even Forbes was saying this, this is not from like some conspiracy theory website, but to implement this you would have to put a GPS tracker in everybody's car to know where they're driving all the time and how far they've gone.
01:44:59.000First of all, first of all, there's computers in all of your cars already.
01:45:01.000You go and get your inspection, they just plug the cord into the computer, the computer on the car tells the computer there all the information about your car that could easily transmit your mileage.
01:45:10.000It gets recorded every time you register your car.
01:45:18.000You can, but tracking it is not going to be that difficult.
01:45:21.000I think the main issue is that if you make $40,000 a year and you drive 20,000 miles a year, that's $1,600 that you're paying, which is straight up 4% of your income, which means you have to work almost 10 days a year just to pay this new tax.
01:45:35.000I agree that that's also horrible, but it's still extremely invasive.
01:45:42.000I agree that that's insane, but even Forbes saying, like, oh, they'd have to put a GPS track in your car.
01:45:46.000I mean, that's just unbelievably invasive and horrifying.
01:45:49.000But I agree with you, that is outrageous.
01:47:19.000Vaush says, Hey, speaking of finances, Seamus, did you ever pay Knowles that 50 bucks you promised him?
01:47:24.000Uh, that's really more of a personal question.
01:47:27.000I don't, I just don't think that that, like... You can be honest with me.
01:47:31.000So the thing about, um, money is, if you guys want to support the show, uh, you can go to patreon.com slash freedom tunes, um, and maybe it would help.
01:47:39.000But, uh, Michael Knowles and I have, uh, A wrestling match coming up?
01:48:34.000I mean, I love that they have gotten everything right throughout the entire pandemic, and all the things that they said were conspiracy theories that we shouldn't talk about turned out to be conspiracy theories we shouldn't talk about.
01:48:45.000No one's taking those things seriously at this point.
01:48:47.000So I love that they got everything right, and it makes a lot of sense that they're doubling down right now on censoring people because they've been nothing but correct the entire time, and the people disagreeing with them have not been validated once.
01:49:01.000Plants like it's got what plants need.
01:49:05.000I'll tell you why I'm going full bore with this Metaverse project is because I do think that the technocracy is coming and so I want to build it first as a free software and open source software so that we have control over it or some sense of liberty when we use it.
01:49:18.000Otherwise it's going to be created privately and dangerous.
01:49:21.000What the culture war is, is the Federation versus the Borg.
01:49:25.000You have varying cultures and ideas and ideologies and debates and conversations versus one unified cult ideology that is plugged into their network that believe everything that's sent to them.
01:49:37.000So they are not the Borg in the sense that they're fully plugged in mechanized, but this phone Keeps these people from escaping their paranoid, delusional state.
01:50:19.000I don't know, I think it's the opposite.
01:50:20.000I think they have the borg really drugged up and that's what... Vanessa Stuller says, on the dating.
01:50:25.000Matt Christensen's media website has a dating app for his and Blonde's listeners.
01:50:29.000There have been many marriages found through that link, based on similar interests.
01:50:32.000People emailed me, apparently they were saying, like, you should make a TimCast dating app so that listeners of the show can, like, connect with each other, and I'm like, that's a little too far for me, you know what I mean?
01:50:40.000Like, maybe the metaverse will have, like... What?
01:50:51.000Seamus, you go in the comments of any Timcast article, and you say, I'm a single 34-year-old male, and I'm looking for a long walk on the beach, and then those fly honeys will respond, and boom!
01:51:08.000We should make a commercial where it's like a guy, he signs up, and then all of a sudden a bunch of beautiful women come into his room, And he's like, yeah, and they're all like dancing, like beer commercials.
01:51:17.000You need to start a dating platform on the website, and then we need to start a podcast called Love Dr. Seamus, where people call in when they are having problems with their relationships.
01:51:26.000Like usually you call, you call tech support if you have a problem with the website, but if you're having a problem with the relationship you formed on the website, you call Seamus for relationship support.
01:52:47.000Like the first one is, it's a dystopian world, Earth.
01:52:51.000People have these things in their necks and they can actually, you know, they can have their consciousness transported to other planets and other bodies and things like that.
01:53:00.000And it's about, like, corruption and mafias and things like that.
01:53:03.000There's a really cool scene where this dude, uh, the main character, is undergoing, like, virtual torture, but he's, like, this elite commando and can, like, break free, and then they're freaking out.
01:54:16.000No, but it's basically like, he talks about how online communities pretend that they're debating against someone, but they're really debating amongst themselves about how much they hate another.
01:54:27.000And you see this all the time when you go on Reddit or you, if you look at like, uh, there's a political compass memes on Reddit is one of the best online communities ever.
01:54:33.000And I'm, I'm not even kidding because they actually are different political ideologies having conversations.
01:54:39.000And one of them that popped up today was left and right.
01:54:42.000and it was a leftist saying capitalism is bad and the right saying capitalism is good and then it
01:54:47.000said they're using two completely different definitions of capitalism the left is talking
01:54:51.000about corporatism which the right agrees with is bad and the right is talking about open commerce
01:54:56.000which the left agrees with is good. That is very interesting.
01:54:59.000So the right is like, regular working class people should be able to work without interference from corporate crony garbage, and that's what they call capitalism.
01:55:07.000And the left says basically the same thing, but they just have decided different words, so they hate each other, I guess.
01:55:13.000Well, I think it's also because the left would argue that if you have a system of free exchange, inevitably people won't make the right decisions and power will be consolidated, which there is truth in.
01:55:21.000But that's the authoritarian left, not the libertarian left.
01:55:58.000Christopher, actually, so Christopher Fisher has a question, but I want to actually ask a question based on his question before reading it.
01:56:16.000Well, because we, so here's the thing, clones occur, so we label it differently, and it is a different process, but, so for example, with twins, right, if it is an identical twin, what happens is the zygote splits, right, at that early phase.
01:56:31.000I believe, I mean, well, the biological consensus is life begins at fertilization, so I shouldn't call it a belief, it's a fact, And as Catholics who believe there's a body-soul composite, we believe in soulment occurs at that moment.
01:56:43.000And so when you have a zygote split and twins occur, we don't believe that like one twin has a soul and one doesn't.
01:56:52.000So I would say if you clone, the clone still has a soul.
01:56:55.000Even though I believe cloning is morally wrong, I don't think that the clone doesn't have a soul.
01:56:59.000If it's being animated, it's being animated by a soul.
01:57:02.000What if Earth is just like a soul factory where life creates souls and then like when you're born the soul like grows and develops and then when you die your soul shuffles off into this gigantic Cthulhu monster who just eats your soul?
02:00:23.000But it's evidence that they could have.
02:00:24.000It means that it is a, I don't know if it's, it's not evidence, but it simply points to the fact that you cannot disprove it by saying spores can't survive in space.
02:00:51.000It's like, I want to give thanks to all the people who came before me who ate mushrooms and died so that I know which ones I can eat for my salads and cheeseburgers.
02:01:00.000Every time I go to the store, I'm like, I love mushrooms.
02:01:02.000Just putting it on that sandwich or whatever.
02:01:06.000Someone had to die so that we could know which ones we're able to eat.
02:01:10.000Alright, we got one more very important one.
02:01:51.000All I care about is helping people, man.
02:01:53.000Could you imagine how dark and pessimistic this show would be without Ian?
02:01:57.000I'd be like, the world's ending and we're losing, and then Ian's like, but the vibrations and the aliens are coming, and then we're like, all laughing.