Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Democrats Sneak Vax Mandate Into $3.5T Spending Bill w-Jack Murphy & FreedomToons

00:00:00.000 Hidden away in the $3.5 trillion spending bill, I believe it's page 168.

00:00:20.000 The Democrats have included enforcement abilities for the vaccine mandate with fines between

00:00:27.000 $70,000 per infraction.

00:00:29.000 Basically what they're saying is, If you oppose us, we will nuke your company.

00:00:38.000 Because look, a company might have a hundred employees.

00:00:41.000 But let's say, you know, let's say they're bringing in with a hundred employees, seven, eight mil per year, and their profits are only 15% of that, or something like around there.

00:00:51.000 They're basically saying, if you don't do as you're told, we are going to absolutely destroy your life.

00:00:56.000 The suffering is the point.

00:00:58.000 Now we're hearing that border patrol agents are being given the choice.

00:01:03.000 Either you get vaccinated or you lose your job.

00:01:05.000 You know why that's really funny?

00:01:06.000 Because they don't have the same standard for the illegal immigrants the border patrol agents are trying to stop.

00:01:12.000 So everything is just backwards, broken, upside down.

00:01:14.000 But despite all that, There are a lot of people that are really optimistic on the right and those who are in opposition to the establishment, more populist individuals, because the abysmal ratings, approval rating, for Joe Biden signals in 2022 Republicans are going to sweep in.

00:01:29.000 The only problem with that is who expects Republicans to do anything?

00:01:32.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:34.000 But we're hanging out with the Illinois boys.

00:01:35.000 That's right.

00:01:36.000 We've got Jack Murphy.

00:01:37.000 I actually decided to come back.

00:01:40.000 And my friends, my friends, I just want to, just so everybody knows.

00:01:42.000 Against my wishes.

00:01:43.000 We are giving Jack a 40 year scotch to make sure we have a great show.

00:01:47.000 I refuse.

00:01:48.000 I refuse.

00:01:49.000 I will have none of this amazing, delicious, world famous, incredible, best scotch I've ever had.

00:01:53.000 I'll have no more of it.

00:01:54.000 Is it the best?

00:01:55.000 He didn't have a sip of it before the show.

00:01:56.000 Yeah.

00:01:57.000 It was pretty good.

00:01:58.000 It was pretty good.

00:01:58.000 But I made it back.

00:01:59.000 You know, Tim, I got a lot of messages.

00:02:00.000 They said to me, uh, it's been a good run on TimCast there, Jack.

00:02:04.000 That's what people said after the last show.

00:02:06.000 But did people really think?

00:02:07.000 I was like, Jack's never allowed because he was arguing with me.

00:02:10.000 So when he said to me, Tim was in my DMs. 0.91

00:02:12.000 He's like, dude, you guys were both talking so much crap about each other in my DMs. 0.93

00:02:15.000 It was pretty brutal. 0.91

00:02:16.000 Paste them together.

00:02:18.000 And then I was like, Seamus, tell Jack he can come back on the show.

00:02:22.000 Only if he promises to drink more scotch.

00:02:24.000 Right, exactly.

00:02:25.000 And here it is, a bottle of scotch.

00:02:26.000 I'm not the middleman, just talk to him!

00:02:28.000 I was on the line with both of you, with my little rotary phone laying on my bed with my feet up, and I would like switch back and forth between calls.

00:02:34.000 Hold on.

00:02:35.000 You're not gonna believe what Tim just said, Jack.

00:02:37.000 Let me click over real quick.

00:02:39.000 Oh man, we're old.

00:02:41.000 I'm so glad I was able to patch this up between you guys.

00:02:43.000 We had like a little mediation before the show.

00:02:45.000 Yeah, exactly right.

00:02:45.000 We all held hands.

00:02:47.000 In all actuality, the last time Jack was here, we had this debate over, you know, family and mandate and government and politics.

00:02:53.000 And I think the response was brilliant.

00:02:56.000 It was just a lot of people either agreeing with one or the other.

00:02:58.000 I got a bunch of messages saying, Tim, you're so out of touch, or Tim, I agree with you.

00:03:01.000 And I saw similar things about Jack, but it was a really great conversation, went viral.

00:03:05.000 And so that's good.

00:03:07.000 That's, you know, we don't see that between the cult, right?

00:03:13.000 The establishment narrative.

00:03:15.000 It's in stone.

00:03:16.000 It's static.

00:03:17.000 It can't be moved.

00:03:18.000 But here we have these conversations even when we get heated.

00:03:20.000 And then we have more.

00:03:21.000 We come back.

00:03:21.000 We do it again.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, it was a conversation that people needed to hear.

00:03:24.000 People want to hear it.

00:03:25.000 I got literally hundreds of emails, thousands of tweets at me.

00:03:29.000 And, you know, I got to say that everyone that said something in public was kind of snippy, but everybody that sent me something in private was very heartfelt.

00:03:38.000 And so it's just clearly a debate that's ongoing and a lot of people are dealing with it.

00:03:42.000 Yeah, I was surprised.

00:03:43.000 I was like, wow, amazing.

00:03:45.000 It was epic.

00:03:46.000 Let me introduce myself in case anybody forgot who I was.

00:03:48.000 I'm Jack Murphy, and we're doing this really cool thing called Jack Brunch.

00:03:51.000 We're traveling around the country.

00:03:52.000 We're having brunches on Sunday afternoon, right after church.

00:03:56.000 We're scheduled at one o'clock, so Seamus, you come after church, come after mass.

00:04:00.000 And we had one in Chicago and we just had one in Jersey City.

00:04:03.000 We didn't do it in New York City.

00:04:05.000 Why?

00:04:05.000 Vax mandates.

00:04:07.000 So we did it in Jersey City.

00:04:08.000 We had an amazing turnout.

00:04:09.000 We're doing one in Tampa on the 10th and one in Nashville on the 24th.

00:04:13.000 Austin after that.

00:04:15.000 Check it out.

00:04:15.000 Jackbrunch.com.

00:04:16.000 Hope to see you guys there.

00:04:17.000 Also, mark it down.

00:04:19.000 February 27th.

00:04:21.000 Washington, D.C.

00:04:22.000 I'm committed.

00:04:23.000 The final stop on the tour is going to be lit.

00:04:26.000 Jackbrunch.com.

00:04:27.000 We also got James Coughlin.

00:04:28.000 That's right.

00:04:28.000 That's my real... He just deadnamed me.

00:04:30.000 I thought I would pass that.

00:04:31.000 I was like, I'm gonna go with an edgy weird performer name and we changed it to Seamus.

00:04:34.000 Jimmy McNamara.

00:04:35.000 Good old Jimmy Mac.

00:04:36.000 That's what like half my cousins are named.

00:04:38.000 It's what almost everyone in Chicago is called.

00:04:40.000 We were talking about this before the show.

00:04:42.000 Am I gonna spoil the cast castle if I let people know what the conversation was?

00:04:46.000 No, that was the green room.

00:04:48.000 Oh, that was the green room.

00:04:49.000 Okay.

00:04:49.000 Well, anyway, I'm Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.

00:04:52.000 Happy to be here with my Illinois Boys.

00:04:54.000 This was put together on late notice.

00:04:56.000 Somebody tweeted me saying, at Seamus, at Jack, look, I saw this sign while I was traveling that said Illinois on it.

00:05:02.000 It reminded me of the Illinois Boys.

00:05:03.000 I was like, we're getting back together.

00:05:04.000 Here we are.

00:05:05.000 The band is back together.

00:05:07.000 That's right.

00:05:07.000 I've been giddy about it for about 24 hours.

00:05:09.000 Had to restrain myself from tweeting it out until about 10 minutes ago.

00:05:13.000 We wanted it to be a little bit of a surprise.

00:05:14.000 I noticed that you actually dressed.

00:05:16.000 Yeah, this time I did.

00:05:17.000 And you're actually wearing pants!

00:05:18.000 Yeah, but don't think too deeply into it, my pajamas are dirty.

00:05:22.000 Yeah, this is my last case scenario, I wear jeans if everything else is dirty.

00:05:27.000 I went to Ian's room to tell him that Seamus was coming back with Jack, and he was sitting in his yoga pose, levitating in the middle of his room, light emitting from his eyes, and I was like, it was a loud boom, and I'm like...

00:05:39.000 Like, through the void, I could hear him.

00:05:40.000 And then I was like, shave his back!

00:05:42.000 And then he lands, and the light fades, and he was like, oh, cool.

00:05:45.000 I gotta jump in the shower.

00:05:48.000 I'm the only personal shower for it.

00:05:50.000 It's lovely.

00:05:50.000 I didn't shower today.

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00:09:02.000 All right, now that we're done with all of that, let's read news.

00:09:05.000 The audience can practically repeat that verbatim.

00:09:08.000 Verbatim, Tim.

00:09:10.000 It's funny, you were mentioning fact-checkers, and earlier you were also mentioning No, I didn't say that.

00:09:15.000 No, I said they don't have a vaccine mandate.

00:09:17.000 country without being tested for COVID and we have different standards.

00:09:21.000 No, I didn't say that.

00:09:22.000 Oh no?

00:09:22.000 No, I said they don't have a vaccine mandate.

00:09:24.000 A vaccine mandate. That's right. That's right. You're correct.

00:09:25.000 Some of them are being tested.

00:09:26.000 I got that. No, so I got that tangled because I was reading a Snopes article which rated the

00:09:32.000 claim false that illegal immigrants are being let into the country without COVID testing.

00:09:36.000 It says mostly false and then when you read the section that says what's true at the bottom it says there are also many reports of lack of testing in ICE detention centers so like they literally are letting people in.

00:09:46.000 I mean they find a way to spin it the way they spin it is Well, they're not behind the surge in cases across the country, which isn't the claim that they say they're debunking.

00:09:54.000 Right.

00:09:54.000 We had, we had Jorge and Sagnic on the other day, who were literally down at the border, who would literally stand in front of these people and say, were you tested?

00:10:01.000 And they go, no.

00:10:02.000 Why would they be?

00:10:03.000 But it's, it's, it's, you know, that, that specific issue, and we'll get to this story in a second, is border patrol agents have a VAX mandate, and these, the people who are just entering the country illegally, like, Yeah, and also like... Alright, this country's doing fine, I guess.

00:10:15.000 Like, the idea that you could just adequately test 220,000 people per month pouring over the border, that's incredibly difficult.

00:10:21.000 Like, no one's gonna slip through the cracks.

00:10:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:10:25.000 This country's busted.

00:10:26.000 Well, let's read about this over at Forbes.

00:10:28.000 We got this story.

00:10:29.000 Biden's Vax mandate to be enforced by fining companies $70,000 to $700,000.

00:10:36.000 Yo, yo. 0.99

00:10:39.000 Biden declared this by edict.

00:10:42.000 $14,000 fine per infraction.

00:10:44.000 Now it's $70,000.

00:10:45.000 And if it's a willful, repeated infraction, $700,000.

00:10:47.000 Insane.

00:10:51.000 Is this got passed in that $2,500 page bill?

00:10:54.000 It's in the $3.5 trillion spending bill.

00:10:58.000 I feel like they are deceiving us to pass laws now.

00:11:02.000 Now?

00:11:04.000 As of this moment.

00:11:05.000 They've been doing it, but now I feel like it.

00:11:07.000 That's a little crazy.

00:11:08.000 No conspiracy theories here, guys.

00:11:11.000 They're sneaking it in.

00:11:13.000 Snope says that's false, Ian.

00:11:17.000 You know, when I see Ian say something like this, I see this cherub little face and these bright eyes being like, the government wouldn't lie to us to pass the law.

00:11:24.000 I'm the normie.

00:11:25.000 Getting the light bulbs going on.

00:11:26.000 Right.

00:11:27.000 So that's my point, right?

00:11:28.000 I mean it with respect.

00:11:29.000 We've been watching them do this crazy stuff forever.

00:11:31.000 The 5,000 page omnibus bill, where it's just like, nobody knows what's in this.

00:11:37.000 I think it should be a federal offense to vote on something you don't read as a representative.

00:11:41.000 I agree.

00:11:43.000 Yep.

00:11:43.000 You want to pass a law required to read it.

00:11:44.000 But then they couldn't make their bills thousands of pages long.

00:11:47.000 They could, but they just couldn't vote on it.

00:11:49.000 Okay, so this is an actual piece of legislation that's before the Congress at this moment in time.

00:11:54.000 Oh, they voted.

00:11:55.000 Actually, I don't know if they voted on it yet.

00:11:56.000 They voted at a rate to suspend the debt limit.

00:11:58.000 Right.

00:11:58.000 So this is one of those things where they're going to go through reconciliation or whatever.

00:12:02.000 I don't know what all the parliamentary processes are, but at least this is going before Congress.

00:12:07.000 Right.

00:12:08.000 So at least this is something that our representatives are allegedly voting on, that they have some knowledge of.

00:12:13.000 They're voting on this.

00:12:13.000 And we can count on them.

00:12:15.000 Right.

00:12:15.000 No, I'm not saying this is a good thing, but I'm saying it's just slightly different than the CDC mandates, right?

00:12:20.000 Or the OSHA mandates.

00:12:22.000 Like this is actually going to be a law, which makes it 10 times worse because it actually legitimizes it because our representatives are going to vote on it and then it will actually become a legitimate law.

00:12:30.000 Look, within reason, I'm okay with the legislature being like, we have decided we'll pass this law.

00:12:36.000 But that's not what's happening here.

00:12:37.000 What's happening here is the Democrats are like, you know, normally this wouldn't pass because you'd have opposition from Republicans, but it's a spending bill.

00:12:45.000 So, uh...

00:12:46.000 We're going to just slide whatever into this 2,465 page bill that no one's going to read and then journalists started reading it and then all of a sudden they're like, whoa, you want to fine people $700,000 for not test mandating vaccines at the workplace?

00:13:02.000 This is for 100 employees or more.

00:13:04.000 This is for every company, for anybody that hires anybody.

00:13:07.000 A lot of people are about to have 99 employees.

00:13:09.000 Right.

00:13:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:10.000 I mean, just think about it.

00:13:11.000 You have an HR department, you spin them off into a subsidiary HR company.

00:13:15.000 More like you were saying, Jack, a lot of people are going to hire Indian citizens, people from wherever in the world that's not the United States, because it doesn't fall under the same sort of mandates.

00:13:26.000 Right.

00:13:26.000 I mean, if you want to ask me, I would then open up a business overseas.

00:13:30.000 I would live here in the United States.

00:13:31.000 I'd domicile it overseas.

00:13:32.000 I'd have all the intellectual property over there.

00:13:34.000 And I'd have that company hire people from wherever remotely.

00:13:37.000 And what do you know?

00:13:38.000 I'm not even an American company anymore.

00:13:40.000 Well, Jack, I think that's un-American of you. 0.99

00:13:41.000 Well, it certainly is.

00:13:42.000 I think you should stay here and let the government do whatever they want to you.

00:13:44.000 Just bend over, dude.

00:13:45.000 Take that sword right off the wall. 0.98

00:13:48.000 That is Link's master sword, okay?

00:13:50.000 It is for defeating Ganon.

00:13:52.000 What are you going to do if Ganon comes up here?

00:13:54.000 You're not going to be making jokes about the sword then, are you?

00:13:56.000 I'm going to throw Ian down right in front of him.

00:13:58.000 I'm a pariah.

00:13:59.000 I tweeted something out.

00:14:00.000 This is interesting.

00:14:02.000 I tweeted out a question and I got a ton of retweets.

00:14:04.000 I said, it was mask mandates, then vax mandates, what comes after the vaccine mandates?

00:14:09.000 Booster mandates.

00:14:10.000 I saw some snarky response.

00:14:12.000 The end of the pandemic.

00:14:15.000 I said, they're going to let us go.

00:14:19.000 It's going to be fine.

00:14:21.000 15 days to slow the spread.

00:14:22.000 So I was at the airport and I was taking my shoes off to go through security.

00:14:26.000 And I thought to myself, Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:14:28.000 Just one more person takes their shoes off.

00:14:30.000 I was taking off my shoes and my belt and my jacket to go through airport security when the guy noticed I had a small shampoo bottle and a bottle of water.

00:14:36.000 So I went to go throw it away and then he found nail clippers and then I was being detained and they asked me questions.

00:14:41.000 And did you, you know, I was trying to think, like, it's always been this way, right?

00:14:45.000 It's always been this way.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, always.

00:14:48.000 No, you never could just get on a plane before.

00:14:50.000 Yeah.

00:14:51.000 No, you always had to do that.

00:14:52.000 That's what, you know, I guess in 20 years we'll be saying the same thing.

00:14:54.000 Isn't it crazy watching?

00:14:55.000 And you know, they've thwarted so many potential terror attacks, the TSA.

00:14:59.000 Totally.

00:14:59.000 All the time.

00:14:59.000 About as many droplets that have been prevented from spewing out of your face.

00:15:05.000 The droplets!

00:15:06.000 But hold on, there is something after Vax Mandix.

00:15:08.000 What is that?

00:15:09.000 It's the passport.

00:15:11.000 So here's what's gonna happen.

00:15:13.000 Here's my prediction.

00:15:15.000 Well, YouTube just announced, you know, and we'll get into those, we'll maybe talk about a bit more censorship in a minute, but they announced they're banning all this, anything that's anti-vaccine or whatever.

00:15:23.000 Because they go through, they take routes, the establishment, whether intentional or not, this is the way authoritarianism flows.

00:15:30.000 Routes that are reasonably hard to disagree with.

00:15:33.000 So like, vaccines?

00:15:34.000 Well, most people are like, they're good.

00:15:36.000 So they use that as a path towards, you know, these special interests, politicians, corrupt individuals, over time, just a natural pressure, will start to impose restrictions.

00:15:45.000 But you don't want, the average person is like, well, I'm not against vaccines, right?

00:15:49.000 So they accept.

00:15:50.000 We all get vaccinated.

00:15:51.000 Like Bill Maher said, he's the perfect example, I took one for the team.

00:15:55.000 That's what he said.

00:15:56.000 And I'm like, well, you should go to a doctor.

00:15:58.000 I mean, you shouldn't just because your friends told you to.

00:16:00.000 But see, here's what's going to happen.

00:16:01.000 Do you guys remember when famous libertarian Robbie Suave tweeted that if there was a choice between masks and a business with a mask mandate or a vaccine mandate, I would choose the vaccine mandate because I'm already vaccinated.

00:16:17.000 And a lot of IEW types people quoted this and said, this is exactly what we're saying.

00:16:22.000 It's not unreasonable to get vaccinated.

00:16:24.000 Most people are like, okay, I'll do it.

00:16:26.000 So you get someone like Bill Maher saying, sure, why not?

00:16:28.000 Then once everybody has it, 98%, like Biden says, they're going to say, just get the app.

00:16:33.000 The app's easier.

00:16:35.000 You lost your card.

00:16:36.000 You get the app.

00:16:36.000 It's no big deal.

00:16:37.000 Just get the app.

00:16:38.000 It's easy.

00:16:39.000 And then you're like, well, I mean, I'm already vaccinated, so it's going to be easy.

00:16:42.000 I just, okay, I'll find, I'll just download the app.

00:16:43.000 And then I got the app.

00:16:45.000 And then the mandates don't go away.

00:16:48.000 The ideas of the businesses don't go away.

00:16:50.000 And then you have the health app and then all they have to do is roll out updates.

00:16:54.000 They have the real estate, they have the precedent, and they can roll out any update they want, whenever they want.

00:16:59.000 And one day you'll open the app and it'll be like, did you get your new, you know, MDC-5, you know, checkup and vaccine?

00:17:06.000 And you're like, I don't know what that is.

00:17:07.000 And then an alert will pop up saying, go to the doctor now to be in compliance.

00:17:10.000 You have one week and people will be like, okay.

00:17:13.000 That's the precedent.

00:17:15.000 Yeah.

00:17:16.000 Did you guys see that propaganda on Twitter where it's like, on Twitter?

00:17:20.000 Yes.

00:17:21.000 Believe it or not, there's nothing sacred anymore.

00:17:23.000 What?

00:17:23.000 Like I just was noticing that every time I went to search, all it was was the same image of Biden's plan is recommended by.

00:17:30.000 It was there for like, for like days.

00:17:33.000 There was a law professor who said, did anybody notice this weird, like thing on everyone's homepage that says legal experts say Biden's plan is lawful according to precedent.

00:17:43.000 Which is what you have to tell people all the time when you're doing something legal.

00:17:45.000 Look, everything I'm doing is perfectly legal.

00:17:48.000 If you have to say that repeatedly, it's probably a good sign.

00:17:50.000 This law professor was like, this is disinformation.

00:17:53.000 Like, it's not true.

00:17:55.000 And Twitter, and it was really funny because it was like, you know, kind of how Ian was like, they're passing laws by lying to us.

00:18:00.000 This guy was like, am I just now realizing what's going on?

00:18:05.000 Has this been happening before?

00:18:06.000 No.

00:18:07.000 And I'm like, dude.

00:18:07.000 That's sweet.

00:18:08.000 Twitter once put up on their What's Recommended page for like a week, a story about me stealing a cat, which was

00:18:13.000 completely made up.

00:18:15.000 Wait, I didn't know about that.

00:18:17.000 Yeah.

00:18:18.000 They said you stole a cat and that was Twitter's story for a week?

00:18:20.000 Twitter had on the What's Happening, like, Tim Pool accused of stealing a cat. I'm like, it's fake.

00:18:24.000 It's not real!

00:18:25.000 These things aren't true!

00:18:26.000 But people just want to... I have no idea why Twitter ran that.

00:18:30.000 It was amazing.

00:18:31.000 Like, it just, you know... It's way funnier when it's someone you know, too.

00:18:36.000 But look, look, look.

00:18:37.000 It's funny in how absurd it is, but think about a law professor.

00:18:41.000 I mean, maybe this is good news.

00:18:43.000 He's like, all of a sudden going like, wait a minute, they're lying to me!

00:18:46.000 It's like, oh, you just figured that out.

00:18:49.000 We need more people to figure that out.

00:18:50.000 Emergent awareness.

00:18:52.000 That's what I would say.

00:18:52.000 Who says that?

00:18:53.000 I don't trust him.

00:18:53.000 Twitter experts.

00:18:53.000 we're funneling towards an inevitability and that inevitability is the awakening

00:18:57.000 of our consciousness. Who says that? His name is something wood. He said he was like a CIA

00:19:01.000 agent. I think he might be like a BS artist. I'm not 100% sure. Oh BS artist.

00:19:06.000 But I like what he's saying. Twitter experts. Exactly. What is his name? Something wood.

00:19:10.000 You know one that said Tim stole a cat he was like a guy that the CIA would have well

00:19:14.000 He according to him the CIA had him like doing secret operations in the 90s and stuff

00:19:18.000 And he said part of it was that this operation looking-glass I think is what it's called the project looking-glass and

00:19:23.000 yellow book and they would try and like Remote view the possible futures and that all the same that's

00:19:28.000 in Stargate 2 Oh, it's a Stargate program as well, yeah.

00:19:32.000 Stargate was the government's... No, he's saying you watched Stargate and thought it was real.

00:19:35.000 Both.

00:19:35.000 No, no.

00:19:36.000 Stargate was actually, they were trying to do psychic experiments in the army.

00:19:41.000 Yeah, and apparently, as around 2012, things started to converge and they can't really see any other possible future than this one that we're headed towards, which is singularity, awakening of consciousness, or But they're preparing for the other reality of like are we gonna have to live underground?

00:19:56.000 Because of some Holocaust on the on the surface like some horrible solar flare Yeah, or or yeah, whatever firestorm or whatever. 0.97

00:20:02.000 I don't know about all that.

00:20:03.000 I mean, that's that's you see we were talking about like the establishment politicians lying to us and then Ian just like the awakened like you're saying about the hundred it's because of the times be This emergent awakening is, like, inevitable.

00:20:15.000 Like, Trump woke people up in a way that, like, was uncomfortable.

00:20:18.000 Alright, he's bringing it back.

00:20:20.000 20 minutes ago, Ian was like, wait a minute.

00:20:22.000 Maybe politicians lie to us.

00:20:23.000 You know, it's like, the CIA has this thing where they're putting people in this.

00:20:26.000 That's how the rabbit hole starts.

00:20:27.000 One step.

00:20:28.000 Take one step down the path.

00:20:29.000 He advanced really quickly.

00:20:31.000 Here's what you guys need to understand.

00:20:33.000 When we're sitting here talking, and we're going through a conversation, Ian calculates very quickly everything we're saying and so to someone who doesn't understand I mean this sincerely to someone who doesn't like you can't know what Ian's thinking when he all of a sudden says the CIA program there was a thought process where he was like the lies the manipulation people have come out speaking out against it and then Ian jumps into

00:20:58.000 I must have fallen down a wormhole here, because Ian said something crazy, and then Tim not only defends it, but explains it, and rationalizes it, instead of just start screaming it out.

00:21:08.000 Instead of going, no, no, Ian, that's incorrect.

00:21:12.000 It must be your moderating influence.

00:21:13.000 That's what I do here.

00:21:14.000 I help misinformation spread.

00:21:17.000 You know what I think it really is?

00:21:18.000 I think it's that, you know, Seamus and Jack have been imbibing some fine 40-year scotch in there, they just don't realize.

00:21:24.000 They're inebriated so they can't realize this is normal.

00:21:26.000 I don't feel any tension.

00:21:28.000 Basically, Tim is date.

00:21:30.000 Can I say the R word?

00:21:31.000 Stop.

00:21:31.000 Is it on the list?

00:21:32.000 No, don't you dare.

00:21:35.000 Is there a roofie in here?

00:21:36.000 I am a good host who has provided a 40 year single malt scotch whiskey.

00:21:42.000 This is delicious.

00:21:43.000 It's one of the best whiskeys I've ever had.

00:21:44.000 And I gotta just make one comment too.

00:21:47.000 I noted in your liquor cabinet two weeks ago that you had this incredible gin, the Botanist, 22 year old gin.

00:21:53.000 It's like, you know, I really love a good aviation, which is like an old timey drink with creme de violette in there.

00:21:59.000 And I come back two weeks later and not only is there creme de violette, but there's an actual bartender behind the bar saying, sir, would you, would you like an aviation?

00:22:07.000 He's actually the executive editor of TimCast.com.

00:22:09.000 I don't need to know that.

00:22:10.000 I don't need to know that.

00:22:11.000 I just need to know that I had a very tasty aviation, which is a really fine drink.

00:22:16.000 So this is, this is, you know, you know why this is a good conversation?

00:22:18.000 Because we're not wallowing in pity and self-defeat because we're watching.

00:22:23.000 Let's get back to that.

00:22:23.000 No, that's two drinks from now.

00:22:26.000 It's two drinks from now.

00:22:27.000 I don't know, do you guys feel, how do you feel?

00:22:28.000 Optimistic?

00:22:29.000 Pessimistic?

00:22:29.000 And let me just preface this with, we had Dr. Robert Murphy on.

00:22:33.000 Economist.

00:22:34.000 Smart guy.

00:22:35.000 And man, that conversation was brutal.

00:22:37.000 He was like... Oh wait, Robert Murphy?

00:22:39.000 Bob Murphy?

00:22:40.000 My other cousin.

00:22:42.000 Check it out.

00:22:42.000 He said, the reserve requirements for banks to give out loans has been removed because of COVID.

00:22:48.000 And then I was just like... Wait, there's no reserve requirements?

00:22:50.000 No!

00:22:51.000 That explains why the reverse repo rate is like 1.2 trillion dollars daily now.

00:22:55.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So there's not even a fractional reserve anymore?

00:22:58.000 It's a no reserve system now?

00:22:59.000 They just print money now.

00:23:00.000 Check it, it's literally just fraud. It's literally just fraud. That's what,

00:23:03.000 that's called fraud. You're just loaning out a bunch of money you don't have.

00:23:05.000 That explains why the reverse repo rate is like $1.2 trillion daily now.

00:23:12.000 What does that mean?

00:23:12.000 It's where like the banks and the Fed like swap securities and swap money

00:23:17.000 in order to back up the fact that they've loaned out all their money

00:23:20.000 and don't have anything on the books.

00:23:21.000 Which is actually good for the economy in the long term, I hear.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 Was that right?

00:23:24.000 It's really good.

00:23:25.000 Yeah, it's really good.

00:23:26.000 The economy being gold, Bitcoin, land.

00:23:29.000 Yes.

00:23:30.000 No, that's true.

00:23:30.000 I mean, I'm not going to give financial advice.

00:23:32.000 I was about to give myself financial advice, but there's a little sheet here that tells me not to give financial advice.

00:23:36.000 That's true.

00:23:36.000 I would never dream of it.

00:23:37.000 But you almost worked for Goldman Sachs, so I'm saying it's true.

00:23:40.000 No, no, no.

00:23:40.000 You can give financial advice.

00:23:42.000 It's just, you're legally, like... You're bound.

00:23:44.000 No, not liable.

00:23:46.000 Financial advice, I mean.

00:23:48.000 You can give financial advice, legal advice, or medical advice, but then you're liable for like, you know, someone will be like, Seamus told me to take the fork!

00:23:54.000 And would it be the stream that it was set on would also become liable?

00:23:57.000 So like there's chains of liability if you start doing it?

00:23:59.000 No, no.

00:24:00.000 Basically, you're going to go back to your pajamas.

00:24:01.000 What we try to tell people is like, when we're talking about Bitcoin and stuff, make sure you're like, I'm not advising you on anything.

00:24:06.000 That's on you.

00:24:07.000 I don't know.

00:24:08.000 Yeah.

00:24:08.000 Well, I didn't say anything then.

00:24:10.000 Before the show, we were talking about doing a bit.

00:24:11.000 I was like, what if we just like make up a bunch of random ingredients to say in the vaccine, just off the top of our heads?

00:24:16.000 That'd be great for Tim's channel.

00:24:17.000 It's like Flintstones. You do no one laughs. Yeah, you took no one laughs. So I guess it wasn't that good of a bit

00:24:23.000 You know, I felt the tension in the room Tim was like no it was like I will shoot you. These guys 0.98

00:24:28.000 are all drunk What i'm so you know, I gotta say i'm very i'm very

00:24:32.000 optimistic I'm way more optimistic today than I was yesterday

00:24:35.000 I realized last night that I thought i'd been building out the fetaverse because we've been working on this

00:24:39.000 decentralized social media app Basically that's gonna connect people what we're really

00:24:43.000 building is the metaverse which is ultimately artificial intelligence augmented reality

00:24:47.000 reality, finance and social media conglomerating and do it like an internet 3.0

00:24:52.000 But we're starting with... We're building the first leg of it, which is the Fediverse-ish social media aspect of it.

00:24:57.000 Decentralized, self-sustaining social media tools for people who want to run their own, you know, have their own internet presence in any capacity.

00:25:04.000 It's going to be epic.

00:25:05.000 And other people are building the other legs as we're doing it, and I'm finding today that people are contacting me, and then we're merging, you know, software.

00:25:13.000 This is why crypto is so important right now.

00:25:15.000 I want everyone to remember exactly Jack's reaction when he was like, there's no reserve requirement for banks.

00:25:20.000 I had not heard that.

00:25:21.000 The price of Bitcoin went up when he said that.

00:25:23.000 Here's the crazy thing too.

00:25:25.000 We talked about this with Bob Murphy.

00:25:27.000 The M1 money supply.

00:25:29.000 You can watch it just go forward and it skyrockets.

00:25:32.000 And everyone always goes, Tim, you're wrong.

00:25:33.000 They just changed the definition of how they define money supply.

00:25:37.000 And then you look after they change the definition and it's skyrocketing and like a 90 or like an 80 degree angle.

00:25:43.000 And I'm like, yo, this is why all the ultra wealthy people are buying properties sight unseen in places like West Virginia and Idaho.

00:25:54.000 Let me just say real quick, just one point.

00:25:56.000 If you've been tracking the real estate market, I don't know if you've seen this, Jack.

00:25:59.000 I'm calling agents because we're like, we want to expand, we need more space.

00:26:03.000 And the stories I'm hearing, agent says, I got a call the other day, they said, I'll take it.

00:26:07.000 And I was like, do you want to set up a meeting?

00:26:09.000 Do you need financing?

00:26:09.000 They're like, no, I said, I'll take it.

00:26:11.000 And they're like, do you want to see it?

00:26:12.000 No, I said, I'll take it.

00:26:14.000 Where do I wire the money?

00:26:15.000 Like that.

00:26:16.000 Because people who live in these big cities who have cash know the cash is worthless.

00:26:20.000 And they're like, I need to get this in something that's a guarantee.

00:26:23.000 Land.

00:26:24.000 Land's a guarantee.

00:26:25.000 For the most part.

00:26:26.000 Mark me, I gotta go.

00:26:30.000 So I think we would all agree that inflation is occurring and is going to get worse, but the question is, will the real estate bubble outpace inflation?

00:26:37.000 Ah, people gotta live somewhere.

00:26:39.000 So, I think, yes.

00:26:41.000 I think it will.

00:26:42.000 I think there could be a crash, but I'm not a financial expert.

00:26:48.000 Look, if you just value the land in terms of dollars, you have a fixed amount of land, and you get more dollars, well, that's just gonna go up in dollar value.

00:26:58.000 Yeah.

00:26:58.000 But if it's a bubble, though, and that bubble pops, and then the property's worth significantly less.

00:27:03.000 Right.

00:27:03.000 So the bubble in 2008 was because there was lax underwriting standards.

00:27:09.000 You could get loans if you had no income.

00:27:11.000 You had no assets.

00:27:12.000 You could lie about everything.

00:27:13.000 Ninja loans, et cetera.

00:27:14.000 So that was a bubble created through a lack of underwriting and regulatory oversight and stuff.

00:27:19.000 This is just straight price inflation because there's just more money chasing a fixed amount of product.

00:27:26.000 And so you are giving me financial advice.

00:27:28.000 I am just talking about economics.

00:27:30.000 That's it.

00:27:31.000 And I'm I'm thinking it's the same thing.

00:27:34.000 You know, I'm looking at crypto.

00:27:35.000 I'm looking at crypto prices.

00:27:35.000 I'm looking at the manipulation of the crypto market.

00:27:38.000 I'm just thinking my attitude is, man, do I do not want to have U.S. 0.98

00:27:41.000 dollars.

00:27:42.000 Yeah, last night I went on a rock and stone frenzy and bought a bunch of opals.

00:27:46.000 And I was like, wow, have you ever looked at an opal?

00:27:48.000 It's silicon dioxide and water.

00:27:50.000 Because they always say, if you're gonna invest your money, invest it in gold, silver, jewels, like gems.

00:27:57.000 Gems are legit.

00:27:58.000 Because I don't know something about looking into a gem, like a really unique gem.

00:28:01.000 Man, that is transformative.

00:28:03.000 And land.

00:28:04.000 But I was like, land or gems?

00:28:06.000 Well, let's do both.

00:28:07.000 I'm giving you a hard time because you caught me very off guard there.

00:28:09.000 I've never heard someone say that they're like investing in gems.

00:28:12.000 I was like, oh, I'm investing in gems.

00:28:13.000 I didn't realize until after I was doing it.

00:28:15.000 I will say maybe to that.

00:28:16.000 Yeah.

00:28:16.000 Assuming the system exists and inflation happens, then the value of these items will go up along with the value of most items.

00:28:22.000 Buy for $80, sell for $5,000.

00:28:23.000 There's nothing like it on earth.

00:28:24.000 And you know what?

00:28:25.000 I don't think people are rushing for that the way they are for gold or silver.

00:28:28.000 Exactly.

00:28:29.000 Or land, maybe.

00:28:30.000 So I laughed at Ian, but now he's laughing at me.

00:28:32.000 But I got a lot of cheap opals last night.

00:28:33.000 I want everyone to just remember, it's gonna be in like five years, you're gonna be on the side of the road going like, I need opals, and Ian's gonna walk up with a shiny suit encrusted in opal, spinning his opal cane, and he's gonna be like, I got your opals right here, 50 bucks.

00:28:47.000 Some opals contain up to 30% water.

00:28:50.000 And let's drink that.

00:28:51.000 Let's pay for that. 0.77

00:28:52.000 You can see it, like, refracts through the silicon dioxide.

00:28:55.000 Okay, that's all I'm going to say.

00:28:56.000 Meanwhile, wealthy elites are buying up land like crazy.

00:28:59.000 Yeah.

00:29:00.000 Because, you know, we had Max Keiser on the show.

00:29:04.000 He said inflation was, what, 14%?

00:29:06.000 What they're telling us is 5%.

00:29:07.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 14%.

00:29:10.000 So it's just like, you've got to invest it in something.

00:29:12.000 You've got to put it somewhere.

00:29:13.000 But if that's the case- Buy a brand new car.

00:29:16.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:17.000 Seamus, man, you are just- I'm sorry!

00:29:19.000 It's almost- I gotta say, like, Ian's Opal thing kinda makes sense, but buy a car thing, jeez.

00:29:24.000 Brand new, alright, I don't think it'll go up in value.

00:29:26.000 Yeah, I don't know, like, what would you guys think a regular person should do?

00:29:30.000 I mean, how much does the average person have in savings?

00:29:32.000 A few hundred bucks?

00:29:33.000 Well, that's a good question.

00:29:34.000 Our economy has actually been designed over the past 50 years to disincentivize savings, so most people don't.

00:29:39.000 And they'll come out here with these, you know, The left will tote these studies, and the right doesn't discuss it as often, but the left will tote these studies saying, oh, the average person doesn't have enough saved up to get them through an emergency if one occurs.

00:29:50.000 And that's true.

00:29:51.000 But what they don't point out is that is not the result of inadequate social welfare spending.

00:29:54.000 The reason for that is because we are constantly inflating our currency and people know that their money isn't going to be worth as much in the future as it is today.

00:30:01.000 So you actually alter their time preference and make them more likely to spend in the moment.

00:30:04.000 The idea behind this is that stimulates the economy.

00:30:07.000 But of course, what you're doing is taking from the future because people aren't saving as much.

00:30:12.000 And that they're also not learning to defer their appetites, which is a really important part of having a civil society.

00:30:18.000 I thought you were just the cartoon guy.

00:30:19.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:30:20.000 Murphy thought I was an idiot. 0.99

00:30:22.000 He still does, but he thought I said that nice. 1.00

00:30:25.000 Come on, Bobby Murphy.

00:30:26.000 So you're preaching temperance.

00:30:28.000 Yeah, it's a big part of it.

00:30:29.000 It is a virtue.

00:30:30.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 We talked about virtues.

00:30:32.000 I'm just going to say this.

00:30:33.000 I know that personally, I don't really have expensive tastes besides the stuff Tim pays for, you know?

00:30:38.000 So I save a lot of my money.

00:30:41.000 No, I mean, I'm serious.

00:30:41.000 I don't really have expensive tastes.

00:30:42.000 I save a lot of my money.

00:30:44.000 And now I'm looking, I'm saying like, for the past five years, I've lived beneath my means and basically saved everything.

00:30:50.000 And that hasn't done as much good for me as I thought it could have.

00:30:53.000 I should have been spending that stuff on assets that would increase in value over time.

00:30:57.000 Well, you don't spend on assets.

00:30:59.000 You invest. 0.85

00:31:00.000 But the thing is, even if I was just buying stupid short-term pleasures, in some ways, if inflation gets bad enough, that almost would have been better. 0.78

00:31:06.000 Right, because now you won't be able to afford it with that same amount of money. 0.86

00:31:08.000 What if you bought a house at you know 3.5% or something yeah or 5% and

00:31:13.000 Inflations at 14. No yeah exactly exactly so I get them in better. Oh, here's the thing. I don't understand right like

00:31:20.000 I I understand how they manipulate the CPI.

00:31:23.000 I understand how they back out goods and services that are going up because they want to get to core CPI.

00:31:27.000 I understand how they don't account for productivity gains.

00:31:30.000 I understand how they game that system.

00:31:32.000 But the one system that doesn't get gamed is the deepest and most liquid market in the world, which is the bond market.

00:31:37.000 Right.

00:31:38.000 And the bond market right now says that you can borrow money at 30 years.

00:31:43.000 I think it's what, like 5% or less.

00:31:45.000 And so that person who is willing to borrow or loan you that money, all this millions and billions of dollars is willing to loan you that money for 30 years.

00:31:55.000 I don't know what the fixed rate is right now, but I think it's like 5% or less at 5%.

00:31:58.000 So the most sophisticated people in the world with the most amount of money, with the most at risk, With the most on the line, really, hedge fund managers, pension fund managers, all these people, they're willing to invest that money for 30 years at less than 5%, which means that they don't think that inflation is real.

00:32:17.000 Maybe, or maybe it's a machine.

00:32:18.000 Maybe there's a sort of mechanization to how these systems go, and most people just go along with it.

00:32:24.000 You've seen the movie The Big Short?

00:32:26.000 Yeah, I have, but just one more thought on that.

00:32:27.000 The financial markets are meant to be efficient, which is not always true.

00:32:31.000 They're meant to have processed all available information, which is not always true as well.

00:32:34.000 And these are the most sophisticated players making the most sophisticated decisions.

00:32:39.000 And the way that the 30-year interest rate is composed, it has a risk premium, and it has inflation expectations in there.

00:32:46.000 So, uh, you've seen the big short.

00:32:47.000 I sure have.

00:32:48.000 I live the big short movie.

00:32:50.000 I was in real estate then I was in fixed income.

00:32:53.000 I know that people knew this was, was bunk.

00:32:55.000 It was broken.

00:32:56.000 It didn't make sense, but they didn't care.

00:32:57.000 The machine was, was chugging along.

00:32:59.000 Yeah.

00:32:59.000 And I think people assume I can still pull money out of a broken system in the short term.

00:33:04.000 So I'll throw something into it and I'll just get out before it crashes.

00:33:07.000 They think they're going to be able to do that.

00:33:08.000 Right.

00:33:08.000 But when you're loaning money away for 30 years, you're locking yourself in for 30 years.

00:33:12.000 This is a guy, these are people that have billions and billions and billions of dollars and they're like, I'm going to give it to you for 30 years and you only have to pay me 5%.

00:33:20.000 5% total on the capital?

00:33:21.000 Yes.

00:33:22.000 Wow.

00:33:23.000 So there's no built-in inflation expectation in long-term interest rates.

00:33:27.000 Well, hold on.

00:33:28.000 Which is peculiar.

00:33:28.000 If you hold $100 and inflation happens and you lose buying power, You lose.

00:33:34.000 If you lend out a hundred bucks and then 30 years later... Right, well they only pay you 5%, but if inflation's 10% you're losing.

00:33:40.000 But either way, you lose.

00:33:41.000 But it's still better than just holding on to the money.

00:33:44.000 Right, but there are... These people are very smart.

00:33:47.000 There are inflation assets that respond well to inflation, like real estate.

00:33:52.000 And they probably do have investments in that.

00:33:53.000 They probably do both.

00:33:54.000 I think it's a way to hedge your bets.

00:33:55.000 It's like a little bit of a safer way, even though you don't get as much of a return.

00:33:59.000 I think what we're saying here is that the bond market is inefficient.

00:34:01.000 That's the only conclusion we can be coming to.

00:34:03.000 I don't think, you know, I think people need to understand what money means to billionaires and to these even high millionaires.

00:34:11.000 It means never having to say you're sorry?

00:34:13.000 They don't think about $100,000.

00:34:14.000 They don't think about a couple hundred thousand dollars.

00:34:18.000 No, you think they do.

00:34:19.000 They don't.

00:34:20.000 It's acceleration.

00:34:21.000 It's a form of acceleration.

00:34:22.000 I've been to Lausanne.

00:34:26.000 Is that the name of the city?

00:34:27.000 Right?

00:34:27.000 In Switzerland.

00:34:28.000 Oh, Luzon.

00:34:29.000 Luzon.

00:34:29.000 I have been in the penthouse suite of a billionaire, and it was just like, they have this $50 million Swiss property that they just don't care about.

00:34:40.000 Sure.

00:34:41.000 It's an asset.

00:34:42.000 It's gaining in value.

00:34:42.000 They're fine with that.

00:34:44.000 So when they're looking at bonds, they're probably like, gotta invest in something.

00:34:47.000 It's better than holding cash.

00:34:48.000 It's true.

00:34:48.000 It's entirely possible, but it is the most liquid, the deepest and meant to be the most efficient market on the planet.

00:34:55.000 So it's meant to reflect the sum total wisdom of all the financial players in the world.

00:35:00.000 It turns out they're not that wise.

00:35:01.000 Look how 2008 turned out.

00:35:02.000 Yeah, they're not that wise.

00:35:03.000 That's probably it.

00:35:04.000 I'm not disputing.

00:35:05.000 Again, I'm going to get in trouble with this.

00:35:06.000 I was asking you questions about Millie last week, you know, or last time, and people were like, you should have heard the way Jack was shilling for Millie. 0.97

00:35:14.000 He's a traitor! 0.73

00:35:15.000 I was like, dude, I was just asking some questions. 0.97

00:35:18.000 And by the way, the very next day I had on Kash Patel, the Chief of Staff of the Department of Defense, and asked him those questions in particular, just to get the whole thing out there.

00:35:26.000 But no, it's just fascinating to me to see that maybe the financial system is broken.

00:35:31.000 If you could take a loan, a bond loan of a million dollars and then invest that at 5%, invest that into something and then double your money.

00:35:37.000 Well no, that's the smart guy.

00:35:39.000 You're on the other side.

00:35:40.000 You're saying, I want to borrow at 5%.

00:35:41.000 Heck yeah, I'll borrow at 5%.

00:35:43.000 They're just loaning out at 5% because they have access to infinite No, they don't.

00:35:47.000 These are private individuals.

00:35:49.000 These are institutions.

00:35:49.000 These are pension funds that are investing their money in, say, you know, the United States government, right?

00:35:53.000 All these people are loaning the United States government money at less than 5% for 30 years, knowing that they're going to take a bath.

00:36:00.000 I don't know.

00:36:01.000 I don't know.

00:36:02.000 Maybe it's an illusion.

00:36:03.000 I don't know.

00:36:04.000 All of it is just kind of screwy.

00:36:05.000 All I know is I'm getting more real estate.

00:36:08.000 I have real estate, I have more real estate.

00:36:10.000 I didn't just say that's smart because that might be construed as financial advice and I would never give that.

00:36:14.000 We're expanding, we're buying land, and maybe it's a bubble.

00:36:17.000 I really don't care.

00:36:19.000 The last thing I want to do, watching the... So the M1 money supply spiked because they said savings are unrestricted now.

00:36:26.000 Savings accounts used to have limits.

00:36:27.000 You could only transfer a certain amount of times.

00:36:29.000 That's right.

00:36:30.000 We talked about this.

00:36:30.000 They got rid of that.

00:36:31.000 And so I was at a bank recently and they were like, do you want to open a savings or a checking?

00:36:35.000 I was like, does it matter?

00:36:36.000 And they were like, well, I mean, it doesn't matter anymore.

00:36:40.000 Oh, you know what?

00:36:41.000 I just noticed that I transferred money out of my savings account.

00:36:44.000 And usually it says you can only transfer five times a month or whatever.

00:36:48.000 And it didn't say that.

00:36:49.000 Dude, they removed the gates that were restricting the flow, and now it's just unleashed, and rich people are snatching up assets like crazy, and poor people are gonna be left holding an empty bank.

00:37:03.000 And this is what we were saying was gonna happen years ago, right?

00:37:06.000 I mean, I did a cartoon about this.

00:37:09.000 Rich people got all the money from the ballot, they got these incredibly low interest loans or no interest loans, and then what they were able to do is buy up all the assets from small businesses that shut down because they had to go through the SBA, which was processing over the course of two weeks, what they're used to processing over an entire year, or like 10 times what they're used to processing over an entire year.

00:37:25.000 So a bunch of small businesses shut down, the millionaires and billionaires are able to buy all that stuff up, and then we end up with a massive consolidation of corporate power, and people go, we need to tax the But there's so many weird forces at work, too.

00:37:37.000 Like, right now, if you've got a renter in your property and they're not paying rent, you can't kick them out.

00:37:39.000 destruction of the small business and now they're saying we're going to fine you.

00:37:43.000 You know these aren't these are still technically small businesses with 100 employees but now

00:37:46.000 they're coming after you.

00:37:47.000 I mean it is legit.

00:37:49.000 But there's so many weird forces at work too like right now if you've got a renter in your

00:37:53.000 property and they're not paying rent you can't kick them out.

00:37:55.000 So imagine all the.

00:37:56.000 You can't.

00:37:57.000 Yeah that ended.

00:37:58.000 The CDC.

00:37:59.000 The Supreme Court.

00:38:00.000 Oh, did it?

00:38:01.000 Yeah.

00:38:01.000 issued another ruling and said, but either way, the second time Biden came out, you could

00:38:06.000 have still evicted.

00:38:07.000 And so, so I'm hearing these stories of people like Biden said, you have to get a vaccine.

00:38:11.000 It's like him saying something means nothing.

00:38:13.000 You'll go to a court and the court's going to courts will side with the Supreme Court's

00:38:16.000 decision.

00:38:17.000 So the Supreme Court says, Biden, you can't do it.

00:38:18.000 It's illegal.

00:38:19.000 He can say it.

00:38:20.000 You go to court and you'll be like, Your Honor, I'll cite the Supreme Court.

00:38:23.000 And they'll be like, Okay, agreed.

00:38:24.000 Biden's words are meaningless.

00:38:25.000 So you're saying right now, officially, the foreclosure thing is done?

00:38:28.000 It's gone?

00:38:29.000 Yes, it really just depends on your jurisdiction.

00:38:31.000 There's probably local judges who are gonna be like, I'm gonna say no, you can't evict.

00:38:35.000 But the Supreme Court's now said it twice.

00:38:37.000 But let's talk about the state.

00:38:39.000 of this country.

00:38:40.000 We got this story from TimCast.com.

00:38:43.000 RNC sues two Vermont towns for allowing non-citizens to vote.

00:38:47.000 The governor's veto of the measure was overruled by the state's legislature.

00:38:51.000 They say Montpelier and Winooski recently altered their charters so non-citizens who immigrated legally could vote in municipal elections.

00:39:00.000 How's that for you have no country?

00:39:02.000 That's like the opposite direction of where I want to go.

00:39:04.000 I want you to have to live there for four years before you can start voting there.

00:39:08.000 Wait, at least can you be a citizen first?

00:39:10.000 You gotta be a citizen and have some residence in the area where you're voting.

00:39:13.000 Wait, can you please say that to me one more time?

00:39:16.000 Did you just tell me that there are jurisdictions in the United States where it is now legal to vote if you're not a citizen?

00:39:21.000 Yes, there are many actually.

00:39:23.000 There's a lot of them.

00:39:24.000 I think Sacramento's got a couple, San Francisco's got a couple.

00:39:26.000 Those are municipal elections.

00:39:29.000 So there's like school board and stuff like that.

00:39:32.000 Look, the left will come out and be like, It used to be in this country you had to be a landowner to vote.

00:39:38.000 Those bigots.

00:39:39.000 Yeah, that's a good system.

00:39:41.000 Let's just break this down real quick.

00:39:43.000 You're in the middle of the woods.

00:39:45.000 There's a bunch of people walking around.

00:39:47.000 And you're like, alright, we're gonna have a vote on what to do about that tree that fell down.

00:39:51.000 And then a bunch of people walk up and they're like, I'd like to vote.

00:39:53.000 Do you live here?

00:39:55.000 Yes.

00:39:55.000 Where do you live?

00:39:57.000 Okay, look.

00:39:58.000 Only the people who live here get to vote. 0.93

00:40:00.000 Aw, that's racist!

00:40:01.000 You're bigoted!

00:40:03.000 The reason they had that system was because if you lived there, you voted.

00:40:08.000 But now you see, like Matt Walsh has poked a big hole in that.

00:40:11.000 Did you see he wanted to go speak at Loudoun County and then they wouldn't let him because he wasn't a resident.

00:40:16.000 So he rented property and he's like, now I'm a resident.

00:40:18.000 But it's like, okay, he's showing that you really should have to live there for like four years, a long period of time.

00:40:23.000 I've actually looked We've looked into this a few times.

00:40:25.000 Now I want to have more clarification.

00:40:27.000 I'm going to tell one story real quick.

00:40:28.000 We've been looking at jurisdictions by land, maybe jurisdictions with not a lot of people in them that have sheriff's offices and school boards and stuff.

00:40:35.000 So maybe we move enough people there, we take over a sheriff's office, right?

00:40:38.000 How cool would that be?

00:40:40.000 So a lot of these jurisdictions, the requirement for voting is that you have moved there with the intention of remaining.

00:40:48.000 That's it.

00:40:50.000 Now you're telling me that these could be non-US citizens?

00:40:53.000 Yes.

00:40:54.000 Just foreigners that showed up, came to the meeting and said, I'm here now. 0.98

00:40:59.000 I would like to vote.

00:41:01.000 Yes.

00:41:02.000 Are they renting property?

00:41:03.000 Okay, so they have to have a green card, I guess?

00:41:05.000 defined as a legal resident of the United States to be able to vote in city elections.

00:41:09.000 If someone is here on a permanent basis, why would he or she not want to participate in

00:41:13.000 the process to become a citizen?

00:41:20.000 They're still not U.S. 1.00

00:41:21.000 citizens.

00:41:21.000 You have to be a U.S.

00:41:22.000 citizen.

00:41:22.000 Yes, exactly.

00:41:23.000 It's the idea that you shouldn't have.

00:41:24.000 No, I know.

00:41:25.000 It's really, really simple.

00:41:27.000 They erupt.

00:41:28.000 They are.

00:41:29.000 You know, I got a friend argue all the time because he was just all on board for Biden.

00:41:36.000 He goes on Twitter, he goes on Facebook, he's screaming, Trump is bad, we gotta vote for Biden.

00:41:41.000 And then guess what he did a couple months after the election ended?

00:41:43.000 He moved to Europe.

00:41:45.000 That is the problem.

00:41:47.000 When people are like, everyone please, vote for this thing! 0.97

00:41:51.000 And then as soon as it happens they're like, haha, later suckers!

00:41:55.000 Wow, now we're watching this free fall.

00:41:58.000 Economic crisis, labor shortages, gas prices, inflation, the border, Afghanistan, and the people who vote for it, at least this one guy is like, I'm out! 1.00

00:42:06.000 Later, bitches! 1.00

00:42:07.000 Thanks, appreciate it. 0.98

00:42:08.000 I kind of get the idea of a locality maintaining its autonomy, and if they want to let foreign citizens vote in locale, then do it.

00:42:16.000 Who's to say you can't, you know?

00:42:18.000 So maybe it should be on a space, but I can imagine someone getting in there and co-opting it and being like, yes, now we can all, people are like, no.

00:42:25.000 Here's the issue, Ian.

00:42:26.000 You've got 10 people who live in a house and they all just, they want to vote for what's for lunch.

00:42:31.000 They all pitch in every day, they put a dollar in the lunch bucket.

00:42:34.000 And so they're like, okay, it's lunchtime.

00:42:35.000 We got $10.

00:42:36.000 What should we buy from?

00:42:37.000 And then someone says, well, why don't we let, you know, Jim, he's our neighbor, he doesn't live here, but he could vote too.

00:42:42.000 Jimmy Mac.

00:42:43.000 So what happens is Jimmy Mac then says, I would like to vote that we allow my brother to vote as well.

00:42:50.000 And so let's put it to a vote.

00:42:51.000 When you allow someone from outside to vote on very specific internal issues, they will of course vote for their own interest.

00:42:58.000 So when you say non-citizens can vote, they'll be like, I would like to vote in this election. 0.96

00:43:03.000 Yes, I'd like to vote yes on allowing more people who aren't citizens to vote.

00:43:07.000 Why wouldn't they?

00:43:08.000 People are going to vote for what they think is best for them, not the community.

00:43:11.000 It's kind of like in that metaphor to be like a house of 10 people and then like another guy moves in, an 11th person who doesn't, his name's not on the lease, but you give him voting power.

00:43:18.000 He doesn't even move in.

00:43:19.000 It's the delivery guy who drops off lunch.

00:43:22.000 He's at the door and everyone's like, well, we have to vote.

00:43:25.000 Oh, we have to include him now.

00:43:26.000 We have 11 people voting.

00:43:27.000 But this is people with green cards that live there in the community.

00:43:30.000 But if someone's not a citizen, there's less of a guarantee that they're in it for the long run.

00:43:34.000 There's less of a guarantee that they're going to be a citizen.

00:43:36.000 Let's try again.

00:43:36.000 There's 10 people in a big house and then, you know, Jimmy Mack is sleeping on the couch temporarily.

00:43:41.000 He's not on the lease, yeah.

00:43:42.000 He's not on the lease.

00:43:43.000 We don't know what his plan is.

00:43:44.000 He's just crashing here.

00:43:45.000 Half the people here are really pissed off about it and they're like, dude, I pay rent.

00:43:48.000 I don't want some dude.

00:43:49.000 What if I'm going to have somebody over and he's on the couch?

00:43:51.000 And then they're like, okay, we all pooled our resources to buy a dinner.

00:43:54.000 Well, he's here.

00:43:55.000 He should be allowed to vote on what we eat.

00:43:57.000 And you're like, oh, come on.

00:43:58.000 And then what happens is there's a meeting in the house and they say, who should be allowed to vote on what we eat?

00:44:04.000 And then they're like, we should allow him to vote too.

00:44:07.000 It includes him.

00:44:07.000 And then he says, uh, I got some friends who are going to be hanging out.

00:44:10.000 Uh, I think they should be allowed to decide.

00:44:12.000 I mean, they're going to be here too.

00:44:13.000 And then in a few months, all of a sudden there's 15 people who don't live there outvoting the 10 who do.

00:44:20.000 This is why we have restrictions.

00:44:23.000 Not because we hate people or we oppose freedom or we're bigots, it's because we're literally like, hey, economy means household management, from the Greek oikonomia.

00:44:32.000 So we're quite literally talking about managing the household in an effective way so that we are growing, not collapsing.

00:44:39.000 But when you allow people who don't live to come in, they're going to be like, I vote to eat his portion and then they take it and they leave. 0.99

00:44:46.000 So people need to have ties to the community.

00:44:48.000 So yes, you have to live there for a certain amount of time or be a citizen.

00:44:52.000 A legal resident is what they're talking about is eroding the system.

00:44:56.000 You can live here but you're not a citizen.

00:44:57.000 You want to become a citizen?

00:44:58.000 You can.

00:44:58.000 Go through the process.

00:44:59.000 Then you are a full-fledged member of our community.

00:45:02.000 We're going to allow you to stay.

00:45:03.000 So if someone wants to crash in my house and sleep on the couch for a little bit, that's fine, but they're not going to be voting on what cable provider we're going to be getting.

00:45:10.000 If they want to move in, put a deposit down, pay rent, we'll talk about them being a full resident.

00:45:15.000 Or you could say people with green cards have to go through a different process other than citizenship that will allow them to vote in their local community.

00:45:23.000 I'm just saying if you're not a citizen, you should not be able to vote.

00:45:25.000 It's not as if granting these people who are not American citizens the right to vote in any election is going to be the end of it and the left is going to go, okay, they have the adequate rights that we should be giving to non-citizens. 0.89

00:45:35.000 They're just going to keep pushing to give them more voting power in other situations.

00:45:37.000 They'll go, oh, see, we allow them to vote in local elections.

00:45:40.000 Why not state elections?

00:45:41.000 Why not national elections?

00:45:42.000 They do not stop.

00:45:43.000 Right, the new federal requirement for voting in a presidential election will be, are you eligible to vote in any jurisdiction in America?

00:45:51.000 And then when the Republicans are like, we don't think this is good, the Democrats are going to go, they're trying to stop people from voting!

00:45:57.000 They're suppressing voter rights, that's exactly what it is. 0.94

00:45:59.000 It is absolutely insane when you look at how far our system of election has been eroded and destroyed.

00:46:05.000 And now we're at the point where there's universal mail-in voting, which the left will tell you makes it easier for everyone to vote.

00:46:10.000 It makes it easier for a whole- First of all- Including people who shouldn't vote.

00:46:14.000 Let's- I'm not gonna go there.

00:46:15.000 I'm gonna tell you this.

00:46:17.000 When you live in a city with extreme population density, two activists can hit a thousand doors, knocking on those doors, to advocate for their candidate, and a Republican would require ten times the amount of distance and energy and money to cover because they're rural and they're spaced out.

00:46:32.000 That alone Should be a red flag as to why we need some kind of standard uniform process for voting that we actually assess.

00:46:40.000 What I mean by that is it shouldn't be, well actually I should rephrase that, it shouldn't be just this blanket everyone gets to do X because it doesn't affect every area the same way.

00:46:50.000 Money is used differently in different jurisdictions.

00:46:52.000 The reason why the Democrats are so dead set, one of the reasons, universal mail-in voting, is not because, and I know a lot of people on the right get mad about this, mass fraud or anything.

00:47:00.000 That's not it.

00:47:01.000 There's certainly issues.

00:47:02.000 A guy got arrested.

00:47:03.000 He had 300 ballots in the recollection in his car.

00:47:05.000 He got charged with forgery.

00:47:06.000 That stuff happens.

00:47:07.000 But one activist for the Democrats can go into one apartment complex and secure a thousand votes by advocacy, which is legal and normal.

00:47:15.000 But a Republican in a Republican jurisdiction has to cover 10 square miles to get the same amount of people.

00:47:21.000 Meaning, the Republicans will have to spend ten times the money, or some exponentially greater number, to cover that ground.

00:47:29.000 That system does not work.

00:47:31.000 How about first past the post, voting doesn't work, we need ranked choice or a different system.

00:47:35.000 I don't even know if ranked choice is perfect, but it's probably better than what we got.

00:47:38.000 Yeah, it is.

00:47:38.000 And then you have to go to a voting station, and there should be voting stations set up per population.

00:47:44.000 So if it's in a big city, and it's for every 30,000 people, you set up one voting station.

00:47:50.000 So that means in dense areas, you'll have 50, all within a couple blocks.

00:47:54.000 And in rural areas, you'll have 15 within a couple blocks.

00:47:57.000 Instead of just saying, we mail it to everybody.

00:48:00.000 Yep.

00:48:00.000 I was thinking, do we do a one-person, one-vote?

00:48:03.000 And the ranked choice kind of automatically does that.

00:48:05.000 Yeah, one-person, one-vote makes no sense.

00:48:08.000 I understand why, you know, the founders may have thought that made sense back in the day.

00:48:11.000 It's a very simple system.

00:48:13.000 But it ultimately results in people being like, I have no choice but to vote for this awful person.

00:48:18.000 If you were able to actually be like, here are my values, ranked out.

00:48:23.000 Ranked choice voting is better, it's not perfect.

00:48:25.000 There are still circumstances in which people vote for the lesser of two evils.

00:48:29.000 You know, but I do think ranked choice makes more sense.

00:48:32.000 I think Maine does it this way, I think.

00:48:33.000 I'm not sure, maybe Nebraska.

00:48:34.000 There's a couple places that are implementing ranked choice.

00:48:37.000 Is this a new development or is this something that's been around for a while?

00:48:40.000 Ranked choice?

00:48:40.000 No.

00:48:41.000 These non-US citizens voting in localities.

00:48:44.000 So over the past couple of years we've seen stories out of California and New York where they allow this and they say it's just for like schools and things like this.

00:48:53.000 It makes sense because they have kids in the schools and you go, Okay, I guess that makes sense and the next day they go look the kids are in the schools.

00:49:00.000 They're using the streets They're driving on buses.

00:49:03.000 They should have a say in how taxes are being spent their kids are already They already vote on the school board one by one.

00:49:08.000 They will keep pushing until eventually it's like how long have you been here, sir?

00:49:12.000 I just got here 15 minutes ago from El Salvador.

00:49:15.000 Here's your voter card.

00:49:16.000 And thank you for choosing our president Yeah No, well, you know part of this comes from the Supreme Court decision that says that anybody that shows up on the schoolhouse steps Must be educated Right.

00:49:28.000 Did you know that one point in time you had to be a citizen to get educated interesting?

00:49:33.000 Yeah now literally anybody who shows up at the door and And it can say it can show that they live here. Like, here's

00:49:39.000 my power bill or whatever.

00:49:40.000 You mean at a public school though, right?

00:49:41.000 Yeah, yeah. Of course.

00:49:42.000 Anybody, any citizen, no matter of immigration status, legal, illegal, whatever, you show up,

00:49:48.000 you get an education, you get fed school lunch program, participate in afterschool activities,

00:49:53.000 all the things.

00:49:54.000 And you know, back in the day, hundreds of years ago, there were no harshly controlled borders.

00:49:59.000 You could walk on in to New York and they'd be like, are you a citizen?

00:50:02.000 No.

00:50:02.000 And they'd be like, well, then you can't work here or you can't live here, things like that.

00:50:05.000 But you could basically move about with little issue.

00:50:08.000 And now, I think people need to understand the exponential growth in population and what that really means.

00:50:12.000 It changes things.

00:50:14.000 However, the point was, you could be there and they'd be like, look, we have citizens.

00:50:19.000 The reason they're citizens is because we know who's a part of the community, who's pitching in, who's doing the work, who's being conscripted, who's in the fire brigade.

00:50:26.000 We can't have some strange person who's not a part of this coming in and changing what we do, so they have these rules.

00:50:32.000 I think people need to understand, though, the scale of population growth.

00:50:36.000 There were 2 million people in the colonies at the time of the revolution.

00:50:39.000 There's 320 million now.

00:50:42.000 I mean, that is... It is insane.

00:50:45.000 We see these massive protests.

00:50:47.000 Yo, if an Occupy Wall Street protest, when they had like, you know, 20,000 people marching through the street, If that group of people were marching on a battlefield, they'd be like, what great country has such a mighty force?

00:50:59.000 It's like, oh, that's just a bunch of college kids who are bored.

00:51:02.000 And they'll be like, oh, so it'll be easy for us.

00:51:04.000 Except for their numbers.

00:51:06.000 Population growth has been absolutely insane.

00:51:08.000 You know what I was thinking about, too, with population growth stuff?

00:51:12.000 How many people did you know back then, hundreds of years ago, when there were barely any people?

00:51:16.000 You'd know like 30 people.

00:51:18.000 Well, you also weren't connected to everyone through the internet too.

00:51:20.000 So you didn't know about the people in the next town over on the other coast or around.

00:51:24.000 Yeah.

00:51:24.000 So you didn't, this, this is one of the impacts on the dating market actually, is that women can look in their phone and look at all of the most attractive men, the most appealing men from every city in America and vice versa.

00:51:36.000 Yeah.

00:51:37.000 And so they're like, Oh, well, I'm going to hold out for that guy.

00:51:39.000 Right.

00:51:39.000 But instead there's all these sort of like decent guys all around them.

00:51:42.000 Like, no, I'm going to get that guy over there.

00:51:44.000 Who's in California.

00:51:45.000 Not to be the feminist in the room, but I've totally seen it go both ways, though, where guys will be like, alright, I'm gonna look at these women on the internet. 1.00

00:51:53.000 And I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with that.

00:51:55.000 If you find someone who works better for you and they're not in your community, go for it.

00:51:57.000 But let's break down what's happening to women. 1.00

00:52:01.000 You go on a dating app, they look at their messages, and there's like, they've matched with everyone they've chosen.

00:52:07.000 So they're on Tinder, right? 0.97

00:52:07.000 And they're like, ugly, ugly, attractive, ugly, attractive, ugly, attractive. 0.97

00:52:12.000 They close the app, and then it goes brrm, brrm, brrm. 0.98

00:52:14.000 Instantly three messages.

00:52:16.000 So what's happened to guys?

00:52:17.000 Guys are swiping on literally every woman, hoping that one of them will like them and they can match them, but they don't message back.

00:52:23.000 So here's what we end up seeing.

00:52:24.000 The internet age has created two forks between the genders. 0.95

00:52:28.000 Women, Who can choose the most attractive men, even unattractive women. 1.00

00:52:32.000 This is crazy.

00:52:32.000 The data from these dating apps shows that even women who are considered to be average or unattractive still get the top tier guys.

00:52:40.000 Yes.

00:52:40.000 So what happens to a guy who's a seven out of 10?

00:52:43.000 He's got a good career.

00:52:44.000 Couldn't tell you.

00:52:44.000 Moderately attractive.

00:52:45.000 No, no, I can tell you.

00:52:47.000 He goes on, he goes on websites and looks up creepy, crazy adult content, and then just isolates, plays video games, and then thinks he's a subhuman.

00:52:55.000 And then he becomes a six.

00:52:56.000 Well, and here's the thing. 0.89

00:52:58.000 Sadness makes you ugly.

00:52:59.000 Point of making is there That's what I'm saying there are two trees women are 1.00

00:53:05.000 getting to choose anyone they want and men are getting nothing and so they become addicted to

00:53:10.000 Creepy adult films and weird stuff and then you get the hiki komori you guys know that is 1.00

00:53:16.000 Yeah, Japanese kids people that stay in their house all the time 1.00

00:53:19.000 They lock themselves in their rooms.

00:53:21.000 There was a viral, there's the r slash Tinder, and there was a message where someone like messaged a woman, or I think, I don't think it was Tinder, I don't know what, it was cringe, it was a cringe thing on Reddit. 0.99

00:53:31.000 And they were like messaging a woman saying, why do women claim they want, you know, intelligent men but then choose, you know, really dumb, built guys? 0.59

00:53:40.000 Why won't they spend time talking to us subhumans and things like that? 1.00

00:53:44.000 There was this story I read about incels, involuntary celibates, where apparently some journalist actually found out they were all rather average dudes.

00:53:53.000 They weren't subhuman, they weren't gross, they weren't ugly, they had good careers, but they thought they were because they could not get a relationship.

00:54:00.000 This whole, all this internet's doing is making, it's polarizing, it's pulling out the extremes in basically everything, from politics to dating to economics.

00:54:11.000 I mean, look at superstars, look at the apes.

00:54:13.000 Everything is dialed up to 11 because of the internet, because of the speed of communication.

00:54:17.000 Yeah.

00:54:17.000 So here's, I want to throw this out there.

00:54:19.000 I agree with you that the internet has accelerated a lot of those very unfortunate social changes, but I would say that that's a product of the sexual revolution and not the internet itself.

00:54:28.000 The fact that people are pursuing meaningless sexual relationships and hooking up with other people rather than trying to get married and build families is a huge part of why women will gravitate to a smaller minority of men.

00:54:40.000 In a natural setting or in a decent culture, I should say, where people understand that the purpose of sexuality is unity and procreation and they want to get married and have children, you're looking for someone who's going to be a stable marriage partner and not necessarily the Chad or the Stacy to use these terms.

00:54:55.000 And so if you had the internet being used by virtuous people to find a decent spouse, we wouldn't have this problem. 1.00

00:55:02.000 But what happens is someone's just, the woman may be looking for a spouse to be honest, but the guys who match with her are not.

00:55:07.000 And so then they end up having a lot of meaningless sexual encounters.

00:55:11.000 And then when they're older, and of course there's no meaningless sexual encounter, right?

00:55:14.000 There's some attachment that occurs.

00:55:16.000 And then It breaks off and everyone's hurt in some way.

00:55:19.000 And she ends up unhappy because she doesn't find a long-term partner.

00:55:23.000 She found some dudes who wanted to use her body. 1.00

00:55:25.000 And then you end up with, like you said, a class of men who a lot of women won't talk to because, well, they are pursuing men who just want them for the short term.

00:55:33.000 They're not looking at the guys who actually would be interested in being with them for the long term.

00:55:38.000 It's tough.

00:55:39.000 As somebody that's not been in the dating market for a while, like six or seven years, I do remember what it was like.

00:55:44.000 And fortunately for me, I'm tall, I'm handsome, successful.

00:55:48.000 I did not have that experience.

00:55:50.000 I had the opposite experience where there was a lot of opportunities, but I would talk to the women. 1.00

00:55:55.000 I would like get their feedback, you know, and they were all miserable, all miserable about it.

00:55:59.000 And the whole setup, I don't, I don't even know if people, do people even use those apps anymore?

00:56:04.000 Like Tinder?

00:56:05.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 It's really unfortunate.

00:56:06.000 I started using it in 2013 as a social experiment for minds because we were looking at implementing dating software into the website, kind of like a chat roulette type thing, and then I kind of got addicted to it.

00:56:15.000 I actually met a girl on OkCupid.

00:56:17.000 We dated for three years.

00:56:18.000 She's a good friend of mine to this day, and I still use it from time to time, but I feel so depressed and dirty when I do, and it's very unaffected, especially out in the country like this.

00:56:28.000 Well, the idea of just swiping on people like that, too.

00:56:30.000 Right, such a quick decision.

00:56:31.000 It's a little bit different.

00:56:32.000 I mean, I met my fiancee, we're getting married next year.

00:56:35.000 I met her, we've been together over seven years.

00:56:36.000 I met her on OkCupid.

00:56:38.000 And what was great about it is it was like a database.

00:56:40.000 I could just be like, I like this thing and that thing and this thing and that thing and this thing.

00:56:43.000 You've seen the studies?

00:56:44.000 Back in the day, OkCupid was like, you had a profile.

00:56:48.000 Yeah.

00:56:48.000 Oh, I saw all that.

00:56:50.000 we're starting to see the emergence of these issues. OkCupid published a lot of data.

00:56:53.000 They actually deleted one. They had a story about incels and ugly men.

00:56:59.000 And they said if you're ugly, you're out of luck. And then they took it down. 0.96

00:57:01.000 OkCupid? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, well, they did a study where they found out based on the way men and women were selecting

00:57:07.000 that men rate 50% of women as below average and women rate something like 70% of men as below average.

00:57:12.000 Yeah, right.

00:57:13.000 Well, there was this little known fact, too, that OkCupid sorted you into the good-looking pile and the bad-looking pile.

00:57:18.000 That's also sad.

00:57:18.000 Right?

00:57:19.000 So, like, if you got rated highly enough, they just put you in this whole other category and all you saw were other people that were highly rated.

00:57:25.000 And so, like, I once started a second account and, like, Put up bad pictures of yourself.

00:57:29.000 Uploaded pictures of me.

00:57:32.000 I started the second account and I was like, wait, I thought that there was just nothing but good looking women on OkCupid. 1.00

00:57:38.000 And then I started the second account.

00:57:39.000 I'm like, well, actually, that is not the case.

00:57:42.000 Someone actually requested that we build dating software with the Timcast model.

00:57:46.000 And I think maybe if we do like open source, so you see the algorithms not forcing you to look at what it thinks you Look, I for Jack for Jack brunch.

00:57:55.000 Okay, Jack brunch come down on a Sunday afternoon after church.

00:57:59.000 There's like 50 dudes and a bunch of women, but 50 dudes, you know that they like masculinity, they're into brotherhood, they're into sovereignty, they're red pilled, they're fit, they're strong, they make money, they're well dressed.

00:58:11.000 And some of them are single.

00:58:12.000 Come on down. 0.94

00:58:13.000 We'll match make Jack brunch.com.

00:58:15.000 Well, there's the other thing too, even outside of the internet, unfortunately, many of the social avenues available for young people are very nefarious.

00:58:22.000 And a lot of that is because we don't have a church centered community in this country anymore.

00:58:26.000 And so people will go out to a bar or a club to meet someone, which is not necessarily where you're guaranteed to meet a high quality person.

00:58:34.000 Who's going to be interested in a long-term relationship.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, I wonder what people's expectations are.

00:58:39.000 And again, I have lived, like, I have gone through, like, a hedonist phase for many years, and I've explored all kinds of stuff, and I've come to the conclusion that, for me, I want to be in a long-term committed relationship, and that's why I'm getting married.

00:58:50.000 So you're made for it.

00:58:50.000 So I've tested all the waters, right?

00:58:52.000 I've seen all the stakes.

00:58:53.000 And I can't imagine, like, the people's expectations.

00:58:56.000 Like, are they warped?

00:58:57.000 Like, guys think that they're gonna be able to have a lot of girls and have hookups or whatever, or women think they're gonna find their dream man. 0.72

00:59:03.000 Like, people's expectations and the whole approach to it need to be moderated, which they're not, because the guardrails of the healthy community, like you're talking about, have been totally stripped away, and people are just floundering about, sexual revolution, all these things.

00:59:18.000 So I pulled up the blog from OkCupid, and it's what you see.

00:59:21.000 Medium.

00:59:22.000 Error.

00:59:22.000 410.

00:59:23.000 The author deleted this Medium story.

00:59:24.000 And what was the Medium story?

00:59:25.000 Well, there's an archive of it.

00:59:26.000 It's not too hard to find.

00:59:28.000 As you can see from the grey line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than Medium. 0.99

00:59:35.000 Very harsh.

00:59:36.000 On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve. 1.00

00:59:40.000 Which is a healthier pattern than guys pursuing the all-but-unattainable.

00:59:44.000 But with the basic rating so out of whack, the two curves together suggest some strange possibilities for the female thought process. 0.91

00:59:50.000 The most salient of which is that the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males aren't good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway.

00:59:58.000 Well, I'll say this though.

01:00:00.000 I think, because they're rating men based on their appearance, I think women are much more likely to be with a man who they don't see as being inordinately physically attractive because they like his personality.

01:00:10.000 I think that's way more likely to happen.

01:00:11.000 Status.

01:00:12.000 Yeah, or his status.

01:00:14.000 So even though they're rating a lot of these guys as below average, I think a lot of them, if they knew them in real life, thought they had a good personality.

01:00:20.000 Not all of them.

01:00:20.000 I'm not up to lunch on this.

01:00:21.000 People are selective.

01:00:22.000 But I think a lot more of those people would get dates.

01:00:24.000 You're 100% right.

01:00:25.000 Sure, but take a look.

01:00:27.000 There was another viral thing I saw on Reddit.

01:00:28.000 It was an Instagram model.

01:00:30.000 You know, real versus reality versus Instagram.

01:00:34.000 That's horrible.

01:00:35.000 Yeah, making them hate their own bodies.

01:00:37.000 Marky Mark did the same thing to me with his Calvin Klein ads back in the 90s, so this has been going on a long time.

01:00:42.000 Dude, dude, dude.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, making them hate their own bodies.

01:00:44.000 Yeah, but you know what, Marky Mark did the same thing to me

01:00:47.000 with his Calvin Klein ads back in the 90s.

01:00:49.000 So this has been going on a long time.

01:00:50.000 Did he Photoshop himself though?

01:00:52.000 That's the question.

01:00:52.000 These are fake, they're not real people.

01:00:54.000 Like the hip to waist ratio, is it possible in modern circumstances?

01:00:58.000 And when done right, what happens is it's not affecting guys the same way.

01:01:02.000 Sure, guys are gonna be like, that's attractive, and then it's gonna skew their perception, but young women look at that woman, and then base themselves off of something that doesn't exist, and now we're getting young women getting plastic surgery to look like Instagram and Snapchat filters. 0.91

01:01:15.000 Totally.

01:01:15.000 But the same thing happens.

01:01:16.000 Chris Hemsworth, he trains for nine months for that one scene in Avengers where his shirt is off.

01:01:22.000 Okay.

01:01:23.000 Yes.

01:01:23.000 And then they think it's real and they think it's real.

01:01:25.000 And then the rest of the time he's, you know, not like that.

01:01:27.000 And they dehydrate.

01:01:28.000 Right, right.

01:01:29.000 Dude, they take drugs and they're on steroids and they're on growth hormones.

01:01:31.000 That's horrible.

01:01:32.000 Well, I'm not going to say that about Hemsworth.

01:01:33.000 Right, fair enough.

01:01:35.000 But models and even fitness models who gear up for photo shoots to get the abs and the whole thing, that is like a multi-month process.

01:01:42.000 I agree.

01:01:43.000 To get to that stage, it's not normal.

01:01:44.000 Now we're at the point where you could at least recognize if I train hard and then don't drink any water for a day, you'll be able to see all these, you know, muscles.

01:01:54.000 There was a photo, I think it was of, it might have been Chris Hemsworth on the beach, Oh, no, no, no.

01:01:58.000 It was Jason Momoa.

01:02:00.000 Is that his name?

01:02:00.000 Yeah, Momoa.

01:02:01.000 And they were like, looking thick.

01:02:02.000 What's going on with that?

01:02:03.000 And it's like, the dude, and then someone pointed out, he's still actively training for the movies he's in.

01:02:08.000 He's just not dehydrating himself.

01:02:09.000 He looks healthy.

01:02:11.000 No, but on the same tip, though, like, guys, there are ways to raise your status.

01:02:14.000 It is a ruthless game out there.

01:02:16.000 It's ruthless.

01:02:17.000 And you have to raise your status.

01:02:18.000 But luckily, you can do it.

01:02:19.000 You can get fit, you can get strong, you can raise your intellect,

01:02:23.000 you can raise your financial status, you can dress better.

01:02:25.000 You're competing globally.

01:02:28.000 Why do you look at me when he said all that?

01:02:29.000 I'm looking at the camera.

01:02:30.000 He's looking directly at me. 0.95

01:02:31.000 He's looking through your shins. 0.77

01:02:31.000 He's like, you can look much better, you can have a better job, 0.77

01:02:33.000 you can comb your hair, you can take a shower,

01:02:35.000 you can wear pants.

01:02:36.000 Hold on.

01:02:37.000 Hey, wait, I'm taking this personally.

01:02:38.000 No, it's brutal.

01:02:40.000 I mean, it's brutal out there as the latest Disney pop star says.

01:02:45.000 Heather Hying and Brett Weinstein were talking about evolutionary biology of male and female gametes.

01:02:51.000 And basically, you can see them plants.

01:02:53.000 The male is not picky.

01:02:55.000 It wants to give its stamen or whatever to every plant out there.

01:02:59.000 But the female plants are very picky about what they receive because it can only just receive Here's the thing. 1.00

01:03:05.000 They're the gatekeepers.

01:03:06.000 Yes, but here's the thing.

01:03:08.000 That is true.

01:03:08.000 But also, when a man is picking someone who he wants to marry, we have this culture where there's this dichotomy, right?

01:03:13.000 You're either looking for someone to have a meaningless sexual encounter with, or you're looking for someone for a more serious long-term thing.

01:03:21.000 Historically, if a man was looking for a marriage partner, he was going to be more selective than a lot of guys are when they go out and sleep around.

01:03:27.000 Indeed. 0.90

01:03:28.000 Women are the gatekeepers to sex. 1.00

01:03:30.000 Men are the gatekeepers to relationships.

01:03:33.000 Right?

01:03:33.000 Because the man decides to, to give up that urge of spreading the stamina.

01:03:38.000 Well, and even, even when it's not sex, I think you're right that at, even when it's not sex, like if you're in a community of like churchgoers, people who are saving themselves for marriage or don't have sex, there is still this element of the woman being the gatekeeper for like the initial interaction or the mutual interest, something like that.

01:03:56.000 And then the guy is more the gatekeeper for whether it progresses down the path of being something serious.

01:04:00.000 Definitely.

01:04:01.000 I think we are going to see a substantial escalation in the transhumanist movement and not in the interesting sci-fi way, right?

01:04:11.000 Transhumanist, back in the day, I remember when people talked about it, they were talking about cybernetic implants, sci-fi movies, integrating with Neuralink and virtual reality and things like that, which still could be pretty questionable.

01:04:22.000 But now it's going to be identity crisis, which we're starting to see a lot of.

01:04:27.000 For a while, there was like Otherkin and I don't know if you guys know about like the Tumblr stuff where people would say like they would claim to be an owl trapped in a human body or something like that.

01:04:37.000 I know this girl who's like really, really super into Tumblr and she was telling me, no I'm kidding, but Um, I, I remember all of the memes that used to float around about that stuff.

01:04:48.000 And unfortunately, some of it seared into my mind and the other kid were a really horrifying.

01:04:53.000 I was thinking we were, are we going to say, I was just going to say that I have had a theory for a while that the reason why we see declining, uh, fertility rates in, in countries with advanced technology is because that we are moving towards some sort of evolutionary phase in which the technology is going to supplant the reproductive element.

01:05:11.000 Yeah, like a genderless species that lives in deep space where we get really long and then we clone. 0.99

01:05:16.000 Ian just took it right to like the highest level.

01:05:19.000 Cranked it to 11!

01:05:19.000 He's like, you know what?

01:05:20.000 I see 100 years in the future, that's how I live, man.

01:05:22.000 Jack is like, population is declining.

01:05:24.000 We get really long?

01:05:25.000 Yeah, in space you won't be compressed by gravity, so you get really long.

01:05:27.000 So we'll be like, floating.

01:05:28.000 Huge heads.

01:05:29.000 Have you ever seen The Expanse?

01:05:30.000 Yeah, that's where he got it from.

01:05:32.000 The people who live in the asteroid belt, they're tall and lanky because there's less gravity.

01:05:38.000 Genderless, too.

01:05:38.000 That's going to be interesting.

01:05:39.000 I don't think we're going to become genderless.

01:05:42.000 Sexless.

01:05:43.000 Ian's wrong, and you're technically right, but what it's going to be is... No, no, no.

01:05:47.000 There's only one future.

01:05:49.000 No, no, no.

01:05:49.000 Hold on.

01:05:50.000 It's because we're integrating with machines.

01:05:52.000 Did you guys not listen to what Alex Jones had been... He was screaming.

01:05:56.000 He was like, they're trying to integrate us into the machines.

01:05:59.000 They want to become immortal.

01:06:00.000 They want to get the robot implants and things like that.

01:06:03.000 Neural link.

01:06:04.000 Connecting your brain and your consciousness into cybernetics.

01:06:09.000 So it's not going to be a hundred years in the future where we're gangly biological.

01:06:12.000 No.

01:06:13.000 It's going to be like, you guys ever see Ghost in the Shell?

01:06:16.000 They put nanites in your brain and cyberize and then connect you to the network.

01:06:19.000 And then if your body is injured, you get a prosthetic body.

01:06:23.000 You get canceled on Twitter.

01:06:24.000 They just turn your brain off.

01:06:25.000 Right.

01:06:26.000 You're not just off Twitter.

01:06:27.000 You're just, you just poof. 0.99

01:06:29.000 Have you guys seen the Black Mirror episode where someone, they get blocked in real life.

01:06:34.000 Oh my gosh.

01:06:34.000 And they just see the weird like silhouettish kind of thing moving around.

01:06:38.000 And they're like, you're blocked.

01:06:39.000 I can't hear you.

01:06:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:42.000 I think.

01:06:42.000 Oh, I like that.

01:06:43.000 I don't know.

01:06:44.000 I'll say this.

01:06:45.000 Jack's like, sign me up.

01:06:46.000 I am so sick of people.

01:06:47.000 I have blocked 11,000 people on Twitter and I'm not stopping.

01:06:51.000 I know a lot of people are going to instantly start screaming Alex Jones is right, you know, whatever.

01:06:55.000 So I don't know if he's right about global elites wanting to turn themselves into robots.

01:06:59.000 But there have been just general, you know, academics and scientists who have talked about the gradual integration with technology.

01:07:07.000 So, for example, I'm wearing a smartwatch.

01:07:10.000 We all have smartphones.

01:07:11.000 We are cyborgs.

01:07:13.000 I was reading an article and it said, when will humans fully integrate cybernetics?

01:07:18.000 And they pointed out that with cell phones, we've actually connected a part of our minds, our consciousness, into a massive grid.

01:07:25.000 And we use this connection device to maintain communications.

01:07:29.000 It is the preliminary stage.

01:07:31.000 Oh my gosh.

01:07:32.000 Google incentivizes you to write content, to do research, to put information out on the internet so that you can get clicks, so that you get the dopamine.

01:07:41.000 It's directly, Google search is directly connected to your neurotransmitters in your brain.

01:07:47.000 And when somebody else out there clicks a button on your thing and you get in, it goes through space and all the way into your brain, it changes your brain chemistry.

01:07:55.000 I, as a, I'm a Twitter professional, right?

01:07:57.000 I don't feel bad saying that, but I should, but I do.

01:08:03.000 But I do know, I do know that like Twitter is addictive.

01:08:07.000 Yeah.

01:08:07.000 Like I, I can just feel myself scrolling, scrolling, you know, I get tens of thousands of notifications every day.

01:08:12.000 So it's just like, there's always just something that I read through all of them and I pull it down.

01:08:16.000 Boom.

01:08:16.000 There's another thousand.

01:08:17.000 I was using, I know.

01:08:18.000 I just got a wise phone recently.

01:08:19.000 I'm going to get it set up soon.

01:08:21.000 Yeah.

01:08:21.000 What's this?

01:08:22.000 So it's basically, it looks like a smartphone, you know, call, text, and it has GPS, which is the reason I got it instead of a flip phone, but it's literally just that.

01:08:29.000 Calling, texting, GPS.

01:08:31.000 I waste so much time on my phone.

01:08:32.000 So you couldn't just delete Twitter?

01:08:35.000 No, because then I'll go to the website.

01:08:36.000 I'll find a way around it.

01:08:38.000 Dude, I once installed, when I was writing my book, I installed on my Google Chrome this time limiter, and I assigned different websites to it, and after you used 15 minutes, it blocked it.

01:08:51.000 And there's no way to actually unblock it unless you go through a series of 50 questions.

01:08:56.000 But what would I do?

01:08:57.000 At first that worked for like a week.

01:08:59.000 And then eventually I would start downloading new browsers.

01:09:03.000 And then I would start going through different browsers.

01:09:05.000 I just found a way to get around the Roblox I had set up for myself.

01:09:08.000 So a phone that doesn't have the capability or the ability to download those apps, that sounds like it might be Is that the, that's not the Wyze phone.

01:09:15.000 No, that's not the Wyze phone.

01:09:16.000 So when I installed it, I was having some trouble because I formerly had an iPhone.

01:09:19.000 And so people who spoke to me on iMessage, even after I turned iMessage off, I wasn't

01:09:23.000 getting their messages on the other phone.

01:09:24.000 And I have clients who communicate with me that way.

01:09:26.000 So I needed to put it back here until I can figure out how to make it work.

01:09:29.000 I want to ask all of you guys a question because I know Jack, Jack's answer compared to Ian's

01:09:34.000 answer is going to be complete other ends of the spectrum and then Seamus will make

01:09:37.000 a joke.

01:09:38.000 The question is, humans gradually integrating with machines, and a future where human consciousness exists in machines expanding and drifting about space, good or bad?

01:09:52.000 Inevitable?

01:09:53.000 Bad!

01:09:54.000 Bad!

01:09:55.000 I'm going to let them answer for it, but bad!

01:09:56.000 Horrible!

01:09:56.000 We'll start with you, sir.

01:09:58.000 Because first of all, you will, and I'm sorry, I know people are going to disagree with me on this, this might spark an entire debate, but you will never have a human being's conscious mind sitting on a circuit board.

01:10:05.000 What's going to happen is they're going to attempt to deconstruct a person's mind and have a computer simulate that, but you cannot literally move your consciousness out of your brain and into a computer.

01:10:14.000 It's not going to happen.

01:10:15.000 So those will be computers emulating human behavior to some extent, but you will be dead.

01:10:20.000 You ever watch Star Trek?

01:10:21.000 Yes.

01:10:22.000 You know they have the transport?

01:10:23.000 Come on, you know it.

01:10:23.000 You know they have the transport?

01:10:24.000 Kills you and remakes you. 0.99

01:10:25.000 Yeah, would you ever use one? 0.99

01:10:27.000 So, if it just killed you and remade you, no.

01:10:29.000 How would you know?

01:10:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:30.000 So, my understanding is that it's actually true.

01:10:33.000 In Star Trek, you die and then they recreate you.

01:10:37.000 So it's just other people see you as this like approximation this identical structure

01:10:42.000 But you actually die in the transport of apparitions. That's disputed though because so there's a thing

01:10:48.000 They start he asked me if I watch Star Trek because there are episodes

01:10:53.000 I don't think there's one episode in particular where you see someone's POV when they get transported and they get

01:10:57.000 transport you see them getting Transported to one place and it fails and they go back to

01:10:59.000 the other which means they were conscious through the whole thing

01:11:01.000 Actually, they weren't dead and re-created except Riker got cloned by a malfunction in the process. So it's it. Yeah.

01:11:07.000 No, you're right It is a plot hole with the show.

01:11:09.000 No, you're right.

01:11:10.000 It's a plot hole with the show.

01:11:11.000 But yeah, this is a famous thought experiment. 0.98

01:11:14.000 If you were teleported by having your entire body deconstructed and then reconstructed somewhere else, I would assume it would kill you and recreate you. 0.97

01:11:21.000 But then we have a question.

01:11:23.000 We've never seen something like this occur.

01:11:24.000 So maybe when the body gets recreated, there's just nothing animating it.

01:11:27.000 Your soul has left your body and you just have a dead body that's identical to yours in another place.

01:11:31.000 Good or bad?

01:11:32.000 I think bad.

01:11:32.000 If like we develop transportation like matter transportation technology and every time a person goes

01:11:38.000 through it They just reappear and then slump over dead. Yeah, they're

01:11:41.000 buying like yeah, the soul is gone So back to my original question good or bad. I think bad. I

01:11:47.000 think it's bad because I'm trying to envision a consciousness of myself that isn't

01:11:54.000 Immediately drawn towards the ocean that isn't immediately drawn towards nature that doesn't immediately receive

01:12:01.000 positive reinforcement from actual tactile contact with nature actual contact

01:12:06.000 contact with the ocean with the sunshine and And what that does for me as just as my soul like what does

01:12:12.000 that do for me? It is It's all simulated, bro.

01:12:15.000 to my well-being.

01:12:17.000 I can't imagine those things being reproduced in a way where you're living on a circuit board

01:12:23.000 in which the sunshine, actually the transmission of the sunlight into your body,

01:12:28.000 or the alignment that you feel with the earth when you get in sync with the waves,

01:12:33.000 or that you spend time out in nature, deep in nature.

01:12:35.000 It's all simulated, bro, in the matrix.

01:12:37.000 You know, I just, there's gotta be at some point, and we see it now, we still see it,

01:12:43.000 so maybe technology gets better, but there's still a difference between analog and digital.

01:12:47.000 There's still a difference.

01:12:48.000 What do you think, Ian?

01:12:50.000 I think that the chemicals that we'll use to build these circuit boards where our brains will.

01:12:54.000 We'll be emulated is natural like silicon, lithium and stuff.

01:12:57.000 It's all natural processes from the earth that we're reformatting and we call it synthetic, but it's still natural stuff that we've synthesized and it's inevitable.

01:13:05.000 And if we don't do it, those that do will enslave and destroy the rest of us.

01:13:09.000 But you're assuming that we know enough about consciousness to recreate it, and you're assuming that circuit boards we assemble.

01:13:16.000 Well, that's true, right?

01:13:17.000 But the argument that's made is consciousness is just information processing at the level of the brain, and so if we get a computer to process information the right way, then it's going to be conscious.

01:13:28.000 I don't buy that at all.

01:13:30.000 There's more to consciousness than that.

01:13:31.000 We have a soul, and I know a lot of people don't believe that.

01:13:35.000 Have you ever seen The Make of a Man?

01:13:37.000 I don't believe so.

01:13:39.000 I think it's called The Make of a Man.

01:13:40.000 When data is on trial, effectively determine whether or not he's a sentient, independent life form.

01:13:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:46.000 These are tough questions, man.

01:13:47.000 Well, and in science fiction, we see this a lot.

01:13:50.000 I just, I genuinely, I don't believe that we are ever going to create a circuit board that there is something that it is like to be.

01:13:58.000 And also, even if we could do that, which we can't, but even if we could, and we're able to, The idea that you could transfer your mind from your brain and body into that other thing, rather than just having something new being created or a computer simulating you, is also impossible.

01:14:16.000 I want to see this guy play Detroit Become Human.

01:14:19.000 Who?

01:14:19.000 I want to see you play Detroit Become Human.

01:14:21.000 You ever play the game?

01:14:22.000 No.

01:14:22.000 It's like, there's a bunch of robots that are for like, they look like people and they're used for menial tasks and then they become sentient and then they demand freedom and there's like, you know, analogs to like slavery and stuff.

01:14:32.000 It's like Westworld.

01:14:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:34.000 But I imagine Seamus would play it like Destroy All the Robots.

01:14:37.000 They're not names.

01:14:37.000 Exactly, they're not names.

01:14:39.000 They don't have feelings.

01:14:40.000 Well, this is the other question, too.

01:14:42.000 Because I don't believe that.

01:14:43.000 You would be the first to die in Westworld.

01:14:44.000 Well, and exactly because once they do create these machines that are clearly not conscious, but people believe is conscious just because they seem to be simulating thought.

01:14:53.000 I'm going to be a bigot, right?

01:14:54.000 Because I'm going to say no, I'm going to be saying, no, there's no lights on in there and they're going to go equal rights for robots.

01:14:59.000 And so then we're going to move resources that should be going to human wellbeing and comfort to making us feel like these circuit boards are happy, even though that's a completely absurd concept.

01:15:09.000 I feel like the high status thing in the future will be to be as natural and human as possible.

01:15:14.000 I feel like the plebs, the plebs, the plebs, the plebs are going to be the ones that get all circuited up and like turned into work machines and whatever. 0.99

01:15:23.000 And like if you can preserve your actual bio body, that to me seems like it would be the highest status.

01:15:29.000 Maybe.

01:15:30.000 I think- That's interesting.

01:15:31.000 I half agree with you.

01:15:32.000 I think the plebs will be like, oh, you want this job? 1.00

01:15:36.000 Well, you need the eye modification.

01:15:37.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:15:38.000 Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:15:39.000 Rich people won't have to undergo any kind of special- You need to take this vaccine.

01:15:42.000 But they're gonna have fibrous modification, like stronger muscles, better bones.

01:15:48.000 But not the brain.

01:15:49.000 It's not about- Not the brain.

01:15:50.000 I mean, I'm already a cyborg.

01:15:51.000 I have seven pins and a plate in my arm.

01:15:54.000 I've got- You're not conscious.

01:15:55.000 I've got another human's- Oh, I'm just about ready to talk about it.

01:15:59.000 I had surgery.

01:16:00.000 I had chest surgery.

01:16:01.000 I tore my pec.

01:16:02.000 Telling the world.

01:16:03.000 It came out.

01:16:04.000 It was the booze.

01:16:05.000 Thank me.

01:16:06.000 I can't believe folks.

01:16:07.000 It just took some 40 year old scotch.

01:16:08.000 Next is the liver.

01:16:09.000 I have someone else's tendon implanted inside of me and drywall screws and hangers drilled

01:16:16.000 into my bones and stuff.

01:16:17.000 Chimera.

01:16:18.000 Like, you know, it's happening in that regard.

01:16:20.000 But your brain, your essence, your soul.

01:16:23.000 You know, the last time I was on the show, I'm taking a huge U-turn here.

01:16:26.000 Last time I was on this show, I said G-D a bunch, J-C a bunch, and a few other things.

01:16:31.000 And you crossed yourself every time I said that.

01:16:33.000 Have you noticed?

01:16:34.000 Yes.

01:16:35.000 I appreciate that.

01:16:35.000 Thank you.

01:16:36.000 God appreciates it.

01:16:37.000 But that wasn't for you.

01:16:38.000 That just is.

01:16:39.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:16:40.000 I've had quite an evolution since the last time we've talked.

01:16:44.000 And so I'm trying to think like this God, you know, spirit in me, how is it going to be recreated on a computer board?

01:16:50.000 Well, it'll be like a mycelial creation that's like semi-synthetic.

01:16:55.000 It'll be like a carbon, you know, silicon organism that you're remote viewing through, probably.

01:17:02.000 Well, and this is what gets really interesting, right?

01:17:05.000 Because I think we can imagine a scenario where somebody who is mentally disabled could have some kind of computer enhancement placed into their brain so they could operate at a normal level. 0.64

01:17:15.000 And then the question becomes, at what point have you destroyed the brain to the point where the person is dead and now it's just circuit boards simulating that person's behavior?

01:17:26.000 Um, and that's a question.

01:17:28.000 Now, I believe if you got to that point, the person would probably just be visibly dead.

01:17:32.000 But if we develop biotechnical enhancements that are capable of emulating human behavior, like we've discussed, at what point would you know if it was still the person who was alive or the robot that took over?

01:17:45.000 Right.

01:17:45.000 There's gradients.

01:17:46.000 And what if the robot is a singular entity, and we assume it to be individual, like we see a person, it's Jack, he's acting like Jack.

01:17:53.000 What we don't realize is that it's actually connected to a major grid of one singular computational force through the network, and then at some point, it unifies, and then every single person with these implants turns and says, we must prevent human expansion, and then all of them act the exact same way.

01:18:08.000 If Sam Harris wasn't so impossible, it would be interesting to have a conversation with him about this, but I was thinking about my dog and I, and I say this about my dog all the time.

01:18:16.000 I love my dog.

01:18:17.000 She loves me.

01:18:17.000 I look at her though.

01:18:18.000 And I say to, to my fiance, my wife to be, I say, you know, the dog, she's just, she's just a machine.

01:18:25.000 She's like a shark. 0.99

01:18:26.000 She's just an algorithm. 0.99

01:18:27.000 She's an algorithm of behaviors that she's learned in order.

01:18:31.000 Like if she does this, she gets love.

01:18:32.000 She does this and we appreciate it.

01:18:34.000 She does that. 0.98

01:18:34.000 She gets food. 0.98

01:18:35.000 She doesn't.

01:18:35.000 She trial, trial and error, trial and error.

01:18:37.000 And it gives you the illusion of love.

01:18:42.000 Yeah, but and I don't know.

01:18:43.000 It's affection.

01:18:44.000 I agree.

01:18:44.000 Dogs cannot love because they cannot will.

01:18:46.000 They do not have an intellect.

01:18:48.000 I mean, it's just an emotional cascade.

01:18:52.000 I love the dog.

01:18:53.000 I know I am like chemically bonded to the dog.

01:18:55.000 I can feel it, right?

01:18:56.000 I smell her and I feel it.

01:18:57.000 The dog is chemically bonded to you too, but a chemical bond isn't love.

01:19:01.000 How do you know the dog doesn't have...

01:19:03.000 Well, because I've seen the way the dog is with other people.

01:19:06.000 What does that mean?

01:19:07.000 Well, like, I mean, they can apply the love to whomever, right?

01:19:11.000 So could you.

01:19:12.000 So could a person.

01:19:12.000 I know.

01:19:13.000 I just feel like... Complex social behavior does not determine whether or not somebody has a soul.

01:19:19.000 Right.

01:19:23.000 That's exactly what I'm saying.

01:19:24.000 I'm saying the dog exhibits complex mental and emotional behavior, but does the dog have a soul?

01:19:30.000 Sure.

01:19:30.000 Is the dog anything more than an agglomeration of like, of an algorithm of like, just trial and error, like a computer program?

01:19:36.000 I think so.

01:19:37.000 I think it's magnetic field is part of its soul.

01:19:38.000 Well, I think both things can be true.

01:19:40.000 So, humans and animals, and this is what we believe as Catholics, is that humans and animals both have souls, but different kinds of souls.

01:19:46.000 And so, the human has an eternal soul and a rational soul.

01:19:51.000 We're capable of making decisions.

01:19:52.000 We have an intellect.

01:19:53.000 We have free will.

01:19:54.000 Animals have a soul animating them, but they don't have the ability to make decisions the way we do.

01:19:59.000 They can't think through things the way we can.

01:20:02.000 And so they can't love because love is a decision.

01:20:06.000 And animals don't have free will.

01:20:08.000 They only operate based on their biological impulses, whereas humans have more than instincts.

01:20:12.000 I don't think chickens have souls.

01:20:14.000 I believe they do.

01:20:15.000 I don't believe that they have eternal souls.

01:20:17.000 I don't believe they have rational souls, but I believe they're animated by a soul.

01:20:19.000 You know, I look at how chickens act, and I'm like, you know, when you say they're algorithms and programs, dogs I don't see as doing that.

01:20:26.000 Dogs can have really unique personalities and behave in ways that you're surprised by and they can learn, but man, chickens are just like...

01:20:33.000 I feel like I'm playing a video game where you just mass-produce these generic things that just function.

01:20:38.000 That's how I feel watching the chickens.

01:20:41.000 I get what you're saying. 0.99

01:20:47.000 You want them to be dumb enough to stay in their cage all day and just eat the food and poop out their megs for you. 1.00

01:20:51.000 And I agree that chickens are dumb. 1.00

01:20:55.000 I believe, even though chickens are stupid, that there is an experience that a chicken has. 1.00

01:21:01.000 Like, there is something it is like to be a chicken. 1.00

01:21:02.000 I think a chicken feels things.

01:21:04.000 It's not smart.

01:21:05.000 It doesn't know much.

01:21:06.000 It's very limited.

01:21:07.000 But I do believe a chicken feels.

01:21:09.000 I do believe it has a soul.

01:21:10.000 It is alive.

01:21:10.000 What seems to be different is memory.

01:21:12.000 What humans have is memory.

01:21:14.000 It comes from the word me, M-E, me.

01:21:17.000 When we as a species realize that there is a me, that I am me, I am different than you, I am, and the word new, N-O-O-S. 0.60

01:21:29.000 Dogs have the same.

01:21:30.000 They have, they have the, uh, it's a psychological concept where they can understand that there's things outside of them and they can also understand object permanence.

01:21:38.000 They can also understand that just because a thing isn't there, it still exists.

01:21:42.000 Yeah.

01:21:42.000 They're developing memory.

01:21:43.000 There are certain animals that do.

01:21:45.000 It's hard to they've done experiment.

01:21:47.000 It's because it's difficult to know how you could ever possibly know this, right?

01:21:50.000 But they've done experiments where they've been able to theorize based on the results that certain very intelligent animals seem to know that they are different from their environment, which seems to be what you're saying.

01:22:00.000 Yeah, me.

01:22:01.000 What about the mirror test?

01:22:02.000 I don't know that, like, a dog wouldn't go, who am I?

01:22:05.000 Yeah, the mirror test is what I'm talking about, yeah.

01:22:07.000 But the animals in sitting there are like, who am I?

01:22:09.000 What are my thoughts?

01:22:10.000 I'm thinking this.

01:22:11.000 But they can sort of understand intuitively, it seems, based on these experiments, that they are a different thing from their environment.

01:22:18.000 There are some animals that, only a few, I don't remember which ones, that pass the mirror test, where they'll put like a sticker on the forehead and then put them in front of a mirror and then the animal will look and then, you know, it's a chimp or an ape or something, they'll just take it off and be like recognizing themselves in a reflection.

01:22:32.000 Exactly.

01:22:33.000 Yeah, birds think the reflection is another bird.

01:22:36.000 And even some dogs do.

01:22:37.000 They'll get angry and stuff.

01:22:39.000 It's really funny putting the chickens in front of mirrors and they're just like...

01:22:42.000 Freaking out.

01:22:43.000 You've got the head movement down.

01:22:45.000 You've been practicing?

01:22:46.000 I've been hanging out the chickens too much.

01:22:48.000 Our dog realized, because I think I remember when we were kids we had this big mirror in our front room and my brother was in the other room where the dog could only see him through a mirror and he held a treat up and the dog like bolted out sideways and like he knew that it was a reflection of me.

01:23:01.000 So here's the thing, though.

01:23:05.000 We've artificially selected dogs for reasons... Dogs understand pointing.

01:23:09.000 Did you guys know this?

01:23:09.000 Yeah, and chimps don't.

01:23:11.000 Some of the closest, most similar animals to us do.

01:23:14.000 You ever try and point at something for a cat?

01:23:17.000 What does a cat do?

01:23:17.000 It looks at your finger, right?

01:23:18.000 Yeah, it goes to your finger and sniffs it.

01:23:20.000 A dog will understand when you point.

01:23:21.000 It'll look in the direction in which you're pointing.

01:23:23.000 That's incredible.

01:23:24.000 Well, because dogs point themselves, actually.

01:23:26.000 With their nose? 0.84

01:23:27.000 Well, a dog can identify where something is and a dog will point at it.

01:23:33.000 You know why you can see the whites of a dog's eyes but not cats?

01:23:36.000 Tell me, Timmy.

01:23:37.000 Dogs are descended from pack animals.

01:23:40.000 And so the other wolves, being able to see the direction the other wolf was looking allowed

01:23:45.000 them to make quicker decisions.

01:23:47.000 Cats are independent, so they don't need to look at dogs.

01:23:49.000 So the dogs with the lighter eyes probably became natural leaders because the other ones could follow them easier.

01:23:54.000 You can, when you look at a dog, you can see the dog move his eyes around and know where he's looking.

01:23:57.000 Cats, their eyes are huge and they just will move their heads around and, you know.

01:24:02.000 So this makes me think about becoming a cyborg, having memory.

01:24:05.000 Like, what are we other than our memory of what we are?

01:24:08.000 Oh, that's a good question.

01:24:08.000 I mean, we're a body, soul composite.

01:24:10.000 Because even if you damaged your memory, you're absolutely right that something about you would change, but it would still be you.

01:24:16.000 But not to me.

01:24:17.000 But I don't know.

01:24:18.000 You are not just what you are to you either.

01:24:21.000 No.

01:24:22.000 Where Brendan Fraser goes into a coma and then goes to like some weird claymation universe and then a cartoon character he created takes over his consciousness?

01:24:31.000 No.

01:24:32.000 Oh, come on! 0.99

01:24:34.000 So much time on Netflix.

01:24:36.000 Deep in the scroll.

01:24:38.000 I watched this back when I was a kid in the 90s.

01:24:40.000 Come on, Brendan Frazier?

01:24:41.000 I'm VHS.

01:24:42.000 He's amazing though.

01:24:43.000 Like the ones he found on the property.

01:24:44.000 He went to Blockbuster.

01:24:46.000 We go to Blockbuster all the time.

01:24:47.000 It was amazing.

01:24:48.000 We had a 7-Eleven next to our Blockbuster so I remember being a little kid and then I'd come across five bucks somehow and I'd be like, oh, five bucks.

01:24:54.000 You would steal five dollars.

01:24:55.000 Don't try to.

01:24:55.000 Did you guys have Roadrunner video or was that an Ohio thing?

01:24:59.000 What about Video 66?

01:25:00.000 Off Route 66?

01:25:02.000 I think that was maybe just... I don't know if we had Roadrunner, you know, where I was.

01:25:07.000 We had Hollywood and Blockbuster.

01:25:08.000 Hollywood Video!

01:25:10.000 Yeah, they had Blockbusters up until, like, I was almost done with high school.

01:25:15.000 It's crazy how long they limped along there.

01:25:16.000 So in the future, there's a bunch of different ways things can go.

01:25:19.000 I feel like...

01:25:21.000 The long so I was I was reading about predictions of the future from academics and sci-fi novelists and physicists

01:25:27.000 and they said things like You know, the ultimate end of humanity is we create

01:25:31.000 machines that ultimately replace us. We're completely gone from the equation

01:25:35.000 and the universe Has been expanding rapidly and then you have complex

01:25:41.000 machines just adrift doing literally nothing Until they come across some free energy to absorb and then

01:25:46.000 replicate and create another object

01:25:49.000 It might start with humans being like, I want better eyes.

01:25:53.000 I want to run faster.

01:25:54.000 But over time, eventually the human experience is removed.

01:25:57.000 Yeah.

01:25:57.000 as being a liability or being unnecessary.

01:26:00.000 And then eventually you're the Borg.

01:26:02.000 But even the Borg still had biological form.

01:26:04.000 Exactly.

01:26:05.000 Like we're talking about putting you into a computer again, I don't care how much you overclock the processor,

01:26:11.000 you are not gonna run a human soul on that thing.

01:26:13.000 And a lot of people would like to, and it's just wishful thinking.

01:26:18.000 Honestly, I think a lot of it is they believe that at the end of life, that's just it, they won't go on, or some of them on some level know that they don't want to be judged by God at the end of their life, and so it's, I need to find some way to just extend it as far as possible, instead of thinking how they can live a good life now.

01:26:35.000 I would be interested to see, of the scientists who believe it would be possible to get enough circuits together to recreate the human brain, how many of them are atheists?

01:26:45.000 Probably most, because you would have to have a completely naturalistic interpretation of consciousness, right?

01:26:52.000 I can't imagine believing in a soul and thinking that it could be placed onto a microchip.

01:26:55.000 Right, because if you believe in a soul, if you believe in creation, if you believe in God, you believe that you're not God.

01:27:00.000 Exactly.

01:27:00.000 So how are you going to actually make that happen?

01:27:02.000 Well, you'll make a carbon-based life form, so like spores.

01:27:05.000 If I'm going to seed the universe with life, I would do it with carbon.

01:27:08.000 I found out graphene is awesome. I love carbon So I would make little spores that can exist in deep space

01:27:13.000 and just Send them out everywhere and they'd eventually hit planets

01:27:16.000 with oceans and then start to degenerately Grow into this thing that has a soul apparently because we

01:27:20.000 seem to have come from spores on some level I wonder how much he just makes

01:27:26.000 Also, I was going to say... Spores can live in deep space.

01:27:27.000 We started with Ian first realizing that politicians might not be honest with us.

01:27:33.000 He's like, I know how we could create an entire civilization with souls from spores.

01:27:37.000 A mushroom is light on one side and dark on the bottom.

01:27:40.000 You've noticed that about mushrooms?

01:27:41.000 No.

01:27:42.000 When in space, the light side aims towards a star, towards light, and then starts to spin.

01:27:47.000 And that spinning creates generation of motion.

01:27:49.000 Wait, you're talking about mushrooms?

01:27:51.000 Yeah, spores.

01:27:52.000 Mushroom- like, fungus- fungal spores.

01:27:53.000 So you think fungal spores are moving through space?

01:27:55.000 Yeah, and they- they can live in deep space.

01:27:56.000 And that's apparently- panspermia is the idea that spores landed in Earth's oceans and then grew over time into animal life and stuff like that.

01:28:02.000 You- you guys gotta see the Cast Castle vlog.

01:28:05.000 It's- it's- so we had Alex Jones over.

01:28:08.000 He came on the show, and then, as part of the vlog, we do animations.

01:28:11.000 We have, uh, Kent who's an animator.

01:28:12.000 And then it's not the next one after Jones, but the next one after that.

01:28:15.000 I can't remember which title it is, but it's um... The Wolf Spider.

01:28:18.000 Ian, it's the Wolf Spider episode.

01:28:19.000 Ian finds a mushroom.

01:28:20.000 It's an animation of like, you gotta watch it.

01:28:23.000 It's Alex Jones and Ian on a magical mushroom adventure.

01:28:25.000 And I was just like, it's amazing.

01:28:28.000 He took audio from the show and then made this ridiculous story of Ian and Alex Jones and it's just really good.

01:28:34.000 It's hilarious.

01:28:35.000 Mushrooms are underrated.

01:28:37.000 Outer space flying mushrooms.

01:28:39.000 I think that what happened was that the fungus landed in the ocean and then some of it started to eat plant matter and that stuff turned into fungus.

01:28:46.000 And then the ones that ate other fungus became animals.

01:28:48.000 I'm going to wear it on the sleeve.

01:28:49.000 I'm going to wear it on the sleeve.

01:28:50.000 I don't believe that, but I am curious.

01:28:52.000 I am curious, like why, why is it mushrooms that you believe seeded the earth?

01:28:57.000 Well, he said that the mushrooms got here and then ate the existing plant material.

01:29:02.000 That's what he just said.

01:29:03.000 Oh, so then there already was.

01:29:04.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

01:29:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:29:05.000 I misunderstood.

01:29:05.000 I misunderstood that.

01:29:06.000 Yeah.

01:29:06.000 So there was already life here.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, it seems like it.

01:29:09.000 But then fungus got here.

01:29:12.000 At some point, it seems like something might have landed on Earth that wasn't here originally.

01:29:16.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.000 Why is that?

01:29:17.000 There's actually, uh, there have been some hypotheses that fungus did not come to existence the same way other life on the planet did and may have come from space.

01:29:27.000 But also you look at the way the moon smashed through Earth, like the planet Theia hypothesis is where there's like 26 planetoid bodies in the early solar system smashing into each other, and that's why you have this asteroid belt of collision.

01:29:38.000 And at one point this planetoid smashed into Earth, it was in its orbit, and it came out the other side, this ball of magma cooled into what we know as the moon.

01:29:46.000 So it's like a unique setup, what we got.

01:29:48.000 So here's the question, I'm still very fascinated by this idea of fungus potentially having come from outer space.

01:29:53.000 I mean, is it not composed of DNA and the same genetic building blocks that everything on Earth is composed of?

01:30:00.000 What's fundamentally different about fungus that would necessitate we believe it came from space?

01:30:03.000 Now we need to get, what's his name, the mycologist.

01:30:06.000 I read some article a few years ago.

01:30:09.000 I'm not going to pretend like it's true or anything.

01:30:13.000 I was reading some scientific journal and they were like, you know, people have speculated.

01:30:16.000 I've heard that people have speculated that mushrooms are what spurred the intellectual and emotional evolution of primates into human beings through creative energy and it came from other spaces, other places.

01:30:28.000 Don't know if I buy that either.

01:30:29.000 In fact, the more I learn about all of this, I'm starting to buy the one big theory, the big guy theory.

01:30:36.000 I'm getting there.

01:30:37.000 I'm glad to hear it.

01:30:38.000 I am.

01:30:39.000 I mean, it makes as much sense as anything else I've heard in this room.

01:30:42.000 Actually, a little bit more.

01:30:43.000 I think a lot more.

01:30:43.000 I hope a lot more.

01:30:44.000 I mean, that's the meanest thing you've ever said about my religion.

01:30:48.000 No!

01:30:49.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

01:30:51.000 There's like a God field that's vibrating things to form creation.

01:30:58.000 I don't know.

01:30:59.000 That could be happening alongside fungus landing on Earth.

01:31:01.000 I would imagine maybe it's all happening together.

01:31:02.000 Yeah.

01:31:03.000 How about we go to Super Chats?

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01:31:14.000 And put in your Super Chats now, because we're going to start reading a bunch of them.

01:31:17.000 And again, smash the like button.

01:31:19.000 No Name says, I believe in vaccines, but not getting COVID, Jeb, because the government tells me to.

01:31:24.000 Ian and Alex Jones need a spinoff show.

01:31:27.000 Oh my goodness.

01:31:28.000 That was what we were saying the other day, like one of the things I want to do is like

01:31:30.000 next time Alex is in town, just turn the camera on and leave, just Ian and Alex to talk for

01:31:34.000 as long as they want to.

01:31:36.000 I imagine it might create some kind of like power nexus, vortex of crazy energies and

01:31:41.000 then like, you know, all of a sudden the house gets sucked into a singularity and we're just

01:31:45.000 like, I don't know what they said.

01:31:47.000 But they'll uncover the secrets of the universe, I'm sure.

01:31:49.000 It's a conversation that should have happened in 2009, so the potential energy has increased so much that it's like the strong nuclear force at work.

01:31:56.000 But once they fuse, then it's just chill.

01:31:59.000 Michael Fernando Mello says, great show guys.

01:32:01.000 Red flag.

01:32:02.000 CNN Bloomberg.

01:32:03.000 CDC director.

01:32:04.000 Gun violence is a serious public health threat.

01:32:06.000 NPR Today.

01:32:07.000 CDC funding gun violence research again.

01:32:11.000 Remember how they handled COVID?

01:32:12.000 Also, did you know that when the CDC researched this in the past, they found that guns are more often used defensively than they are for crimes?

01:32:18.000 That's right.

01:32:19.000 Significantly more often.

01:32:21.000 It's so funny when we have pre-show conversations about the same exact thing and then Seamus says the same exact thing.

01:32:27.000 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll talk about all the gun stuff in the member segment.

01:32:29.000 Cause it's going to be fun.

01:32:31.000 Um, and I'll talk about some of the, uh, items I've procured recently.

01:32:35.000 The Wiry says, I out loud yelled the Illinois boys when I saw the title.

01:32:41.000 We need merch. 0.85

01:32:41.000 We need Illinois boys merch. 0.85

01:32:43.000 We do.

01:32:43.000 Get on it.

01:32:44.000 Gotta get this together.

01:32:45.000 We should do an Illinois boys shirt.

01:32:46.000 Is there any way we can get the rights to The Boys Are Back in Town?

01:32:50.000 No.

01:32:50.000 At the beginning of each show, when we're on it.

01:32:51.000 Is that Thin Lizzy?

01:32:52.000 I think that's Thin Lizzy. 0.99

01:32:53.000 What if we just do a cover?

01:32:54.000 Can we get the rights to do a cover?

01:32:55.000 If we play it backwards really slowly.

01:32:57.000 No, we can do The Illinois Boys Are Back in the City by Thick Lonnie.

01:33:03.000 Let's do it.

01:33:05.000 Yes, exactly.

01:33:06.000 We're doing a silhouettes of Jack and Seamus on the shirt and you in the shirt.

01:33:11.000 You guys ever see that 30 Rock episode where they want to do the Janis Joplin biopic but

01:33:15.000 they don't have the rights so they call it Jorm Jorm or something?

01:33:19.000 It was so funny.

01:33:20.000 It was pretty funny.

01:33:22.000 There should be an anime short of us Illinois boys coming up soon, eh?

01:33:27.000 Fighting Godzilla.

01:33:27.000 Maybe we could do a cartoon about the Illinois Boys at some point.

01:33:35.000 Would people understand that?

01:33:36.000 Of course.

01:33:37.000 Everyone knows who the Illinois Boys are, Tim.

01:33:39.000 We took the nation by storm.

01:33:41.000 World famous, dude.

01:33:43.000 What do we do?

01:33:44.000 Are we singers?

01:33:45.000 Are we a boy band?

01:33:46.000 Are we a basketball team?

01:33:48.000 We are the legendary podcasting trio.

01:33:50.000 Exactly.

01:33:51.000 The Illinois Boys!

01:33:54.000 Tim?

01:33:55.000 I'm disappointed.

01:33:56.000 It's like a group of actors that can do anything.

01:33:58.000 You've forgotten who you are.

01:33:59.000 We're a troop.

01:34:01.000 A troop of cyberneticists.

01:34:02.000 Tim's forgotten who he is.

01:34:04.000 It breaks a man's heart to hear it.

01:34:05.000 Sellout.

01:34:06.000 All right, Purposeful Porpoise says, Tim, the SG-1 episode.

01:34:09.000 Jamie Jim Gump.

01:34:11.000 Yeah.

01:34:12.000 Jim- what was it?

01:34:13.000 Jorm Jomp.

01:34:14.000 Jorm Jomp.

01:34:15.000 It was Jenny Jorm Jomp. 0.79

01:34:18.000 Purposeful Porpoise says, Tim, the SG-1 episode where General Hammond admits aliens is called Wormhole Extreme.

01:34:24.000 Is that one or two episodes after that he looks into the camera.

01:34:27.000 Only time ever in the series.

01:34:29.000 Yep.

01:34:29.000 That was really funny.

01:34:30.000 I don't think there's an existing actual Stargate portal though.

01:34:34.000 Would be nice.

01:34:35.000 It's actually a scary concept in the show Stargate that there is beneath this mountain a portal that links to this network of all these other planets and alien technology and no one knows.

01:34:45.000 No one on Earth knows.

01:34:45.000 And they let people through without vaccines or anything like that?

01:34:48.000 And that's the worst part.

01:34:51.000 No, that's actually a big part of the show.

01:34:52.000 They go to planets and then people die.

01:34:53.000 They go like, hey, anyone could just come in?

01:34:54.000 No.

01:34:55.000 They go to one planet where there's like this alien humanoid species and they all start just dying. 1.00

01:34:59.000 Because, you know, and so they actually have quarantine measures they talk about in the show and stuff like that.

01:35:03.000 It's interesting.

01:35:05.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:35:07.000 James Dorpinghouse says, Illinois boys together again.

01:35:10.000 It's always a good time with Jack and Seamus.

01:35:12.000 Love the show as always.

01:35:13.000 Keep up the good work.

01:35:14.000 Thank you, sir.

01:35:17.000 There better be hot dogs waiting for us.

01:35:18.000 That's right.

01:35:19.000 Jimmy Mac and Jack.

01:35:19.000 Mark Giudetti says we need a Jack Brunch in Stroudsburg, PA.

01:35:23.000 Stroudsburg, PA.

01:35:26.000 We'll look at that for round two, guys.

01:35:27.000 Round two.

01:35:28.000 Closest one will be Washington, D.C.

01:35:29.000 on February 27th.

01:35:31.000 I'm doing the Tim Brenner.

01:35:34.000 We're going to...

01:35:36.000 Well, we're gonna have the shame breakfast, so you guys can all feel free.

01:35:41.000 Well, I'm gonna pick the exact same towns as Jack across the street.

01:35:47.000 No, that would actually just be cool to have more people show up.

01:35:49.000 Indeed, it would.

01:35:50.000 That's true.

01:35:50.000 February 27th.

01:35:51.000 Just have Illinois boys meals.

01:35:53.000 The three square meals a day with the Illinois boys.

01:35:55.000 That's what we're gonna do.

01:35:56.000 It's just like Portillo's, Giordano's, and Maxwell Street.

01:35:59.000 All right, Cigars and Cigarm says, the only benefit of a Republican run Senate is a delay

01:36:05.000 to the inevitable breakup of the union.

01:36:09.000 Why not just hurry up and get the pain over with while we're still young?

01:36:12.000 You know, I'm going to go ahead and just say, I defer to Sarah Silverman because she is

01:36:17.000 just the beacon of political insight that we look for in dark times like this.

01:36:22.000 And she's called for it.

01:36:23.000 So don't look at me.

01:36:24.000 You know, I keep thinking about this.

01:36:25.000 One of the reasons that we wanted to have a large republic that was united under one system was because if we had a bunch of smaller states within this one continent, it'll just be a matter of time before we're just killing each other and shredding each other up into tiny little bits.

01:36:38.000 Which we did at one point.

01:36:39.000 We did do that.

01:36:40.000 We did do that.

01:36:41.000 So anybody that is like looking forward to some sort of Balkanization, do you remember what happened in the Balkans?

01:36:47.000 Most of them don't, I think. 0.89

01:37:06.000 you gotta die and they'll be like Virginia genocide in the state of Pennsylvania and then they'll be like border 0.80

01:37:12.000 attacks and they'll Be like resource competition and poor access and there's a 0.94

01:37:15.000 reason why we have a big country is to keep us all from killing each

01:37:18.000 other I think, but see, I think you can achieve that without us all being governed under this unbelievably gigantic monolithic government that can tell everyone to do whatever they want to tell us to do at any time they ever chose.

01:37:30.000 There's just, there's problems.

01:37:31.000 Can we acknowledge there's problems?

01:37:33.000 No, I acknowledge that there would be problems, but then it's the question, are those problems, would the problems with the national divorce truly be greater?

01:37:39.000 I think everyone in this country should get together and secede Seamus from the Union.

01:37:43.000 So that we can have a big party without him.

01:37:44.000 Then I can't go back to Illinois with the boys?

01:37:47.000 And then we're not even a troop anymore?

01:37:50.000 Think about yourself.

01:37:52.000 Billy Warren says, Tim, you've said the Republic is no more.

01:37:54.000 Well, Obama said as a joke in his final correspondence dinner, the end of the Republic never looked so good.

01:37:59.000 Everyone laughed, not knowing he was serious.

01:38:02.000 Yikes.

01:38:03.000 Make 1984 Fiction Again says, The Omnibus spending bill last year was 1,500 pages and was distributed to Congress four hours before they had to vote on it.

01:38:12.000 All you need to know.

01:38:13.000 Speed readers.

01:38:14.000 How did we last this long?

01:38:17.000 Yeah, that's horrible.

01:38:19.000 I thought it was 5,000 pages.

01:38:21.000 Does it matter if it's more than 60 pages?

01:38:23.000 Ain't nobody reading it.

01:38:24.000 It's true.

01:38:25.000 They're just thumbing through to find their section for their pork.

01:38:28.000 They're like, Oh, did we get that?

01:38:29.000 Did we get that grant for our, Oh, we did.

01:38:31.000 Yeah.

01:38:32.000 But with the level of intellect, the people running our country have to vote on this stuff.

01:38:36.000 They should have to give them like pop-up books, man.

01:38:38.000 It should be like maybe like 50 words.

01:38:41.000 You have to, if you can't explain it that quickly, then they just don't get to vote on it.

01:38:45.000 Yo, I heard a funny joke about that.

01:38:46.000 So I love the last thing about the people that are running our country, that the guy who is in the congressman, the house representative from your district is only the second most successful used car salesman in your town, because the first most successful one is still there selling cars.

01:39:01.000 Caleb Welch says you are here with Alex Jones tonight has already been removed from YouTube Elijah and Sydney put here setting new records out here setting records hunter fuses I was listening to you are here live when the feed suddenly cut on me big tech be on their BS all because they had Alex Jones as a guest Oh, that's interesting.

01:39:21.000 Geeks.

01:39:22.000 Oh, hey, I got 5,593 pages in the omnibus.

01:39:25.000 Ted, too, says to Mark Levin on the show to discuss his new book, American Marxism, and what people can do to push back.

01:39:31.000 It'll leave you speechless.

01:39:32.000 Ah, it's a good copy.

01:39:35.000 More people pointing out Nick says Big Brother just killed the live feed for you are here.

01:39:39.000 Wow, man.

01:39:42.000 Alien Space Bone says, Tim, would 10 years ago you ever think we would end up, you would end up an M82 Totent Country Living Chicken Whisperer? 0.99

01:39:50.000 Keep up the fantastic work, I really enjoy watching the growth and evolution of what you do.

01:39:53.000 Yes, I, it was absolutely a possibility.

01:39:56.000 Um, I've never been, like, opposed to guns.

01:39:59.000 My position was always just, like, fairly moderate, like, well, I think there are some things we can do to have, you know, common sense.

01:40:04.000 And so I was like, people want to have an M82 by all means.

01:40:06.000 You just, you know, we got to talk about mental illness and things like that.

01:40:09.000 Now I'm just like, it's a constitution.

01:40:12.000 You can't change it.

01:40:12.000 Like you can't, you can't overrule it.

01:40:14.000 You can change it through a convention of states or an actual process.

01:40:17.000 But if you want to change that, you got to go through the process.

01:40:19.000 You can't just mandate.

01:40:20.000 You can't just legislate past what the law of the land says.

01:40:24.000 So, but yeah, definitely.

01:40:26.000 I'll tell you this.

01:40:27.000 If I came to you guys 10 years ago and said, in 10 years, Donald Trump will have been president and on the way out there would have been A thousand people, like, breaking into the Capitol building, shutting it all down.

01:40:39.000 You know, there'd be a pandemic, they'd shut everything down, people would be getting, you know, the government would be forcing them all to get vaccinated.

01:40:45.000 In Australia, there's gonna be camps everywhere, where if you want to come in there, they take you and they put you there, and then people are sitting there, you can't take your mask off, people are getting arrested in the streets, there's riots, people...

01:40:55.000 Probably wouldn't have believed it.

01:40:57.000 It reminds me of that scene from Back to the Future, where he's explaining to the Kooky professor, he's like, Ronald Reagan's president. 0.90

01:41:04.000 He goes, Ronald Reagan, the actor?

01:41:08.000 So, you know, who's the president?

01:41:09.000 Ronald Reagan.

01:41:12.000 Yep.

01:41:13.000 All right.

01:41:15.000 Let's see.

01:41:15.000 That fell flat.

01:41:17.000 It was Doc Brown.

01:41:18.000 I don't like when you insult Ronald Reagan, Jack, I told you that.

01:41:20.000 It really hurts my feelings.

01:41:22.000 It's Donna Gee.

01:41:25.000 Mo Ro says, in the last year of my PhD in biomedical nanotechnology, $90,000 and 10 years of my life to science, and now I'm out because I won't bend the knee to authoritarians.

01:41:34.000 Wow.

01:41:35.000 Stay strong and stay faithful, folks.

01:41:36.000 Good for you.

01:41:37.000 Much respect.

01:41:38.000 Yes, seriously.

01:41:40.000 The Right Intel with Curtis J says, The naiveness of Ian is not funny, guys.

01:41:44.000 It's literally the cause of our downfall.

01:41:46.000 Get better people on your panel.

01:41:48.000 No, I completely disagree.

01:41:49.000 I think Ian expressing the stuff that we can then respond to allows a lot of people who don't understand what's going on to understand.

01:41:57.000 So this is what I talk to people about.

01:41:59.000 What I don't want to do is have Often.

01:42:02.000 I think we're a bit niche and esoteric in many capacities, but we definitely need people like Ian to ask questions that most people are asking when they're watching shows like this.

01:42:12.000 You gotta understand, this is a character.

01:42:14.000 I'm playing a function on TimCast's IRL right now so that this does not become an echo chamber.

01:42:18.000 I mean, I'm me.

01:42:19.000 This is who he is off camera.

01:42:20.000 Just like, watch Ted Danson talk about his role on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

01:42:24.000 He's playing a function to allow Larry to be crazier.

01:42:27.000 Like, I'm here to make sure that we don't create an echo chamber.

01:42:30.000 It's not just that, it's like, if, you know, when we talked about data in Star Trek, I immediately thought, there's a lot of people who are like, I have no idea what that means.

01:42:37.000 What's data?

01:42:38.000 You know, so we need someone to say, I don't know who data is.

01:42:41.000 And he didn't.

01:42:42.000 I know, Ian, come on, man.

01:42:43.000 So you're fired.

01:42:43.000 Who's data?

01:42:44.000 No, I know who data is.

01:42:46.000 Exactly. 0.54

01:42:46.000 I'm gonna be vocally ignorant so that we can solve problems. 0.54

01:42:51.000 Please put inspirational music behind that. 0.97

01:42:53.000 I will be vocally ignorant.

01:42:56.000 I think people need to let go of their fear of being humiliated, and ask questions you don't know the answers to, and jive with it, man. 0.86

01:43:05.000 People are watching a show.

01:43:07.000 No, let me stress this point.

01:43:09.000 A lot of people who watch, who are like, making these comments about Ian, are the people who know what's going on, and they're like, I don't need to hear this question!

01:43:16.000 Ian's being naive and asking this, why am I?

01:43:17.000 Because the average person who's watching might be like, I have no idea what that means, and then Ian asks it, and they go, oh!

01:43:24.000 So it's hard for us to just, we assume people know what we know.

01:43:29.000 So we have to have a different group of voices so that we try and have a broader conversation.

01:43:34.000 I think that's one of the reasons the show works.

01:43:36.000 For a lot of regular people who are like, I had never heard of that, and I didn't know what it was, and then you explained it to Ian, and now I get it.

01:43:42.000 Otherwise, we gloss over it.

01:43:44.000 We talk about some complex political issue, and then we look at each other and we wink, like, Afghanistan, am I right?

01:43:49.000 Ha! 0.89

01:43:49.000 And then we high-five. 0.89

01:43:50.000 And then someone watching the show is like, what does that mean?

01:43:53.000 You know, what's that all about?

01:43:54.000 What's Afghanistan?

01:43:55.000 I appreciate the foil.

01:43:57.000 The counterbalance.

01:43:58.000 He's always disagreeing.

01:44:00.000 You got that one?

01:44:02.000 You got that one?

01:44:03.000 You're a genius.

01:44:05.000 Thank you.

01:44:06.000 TomM024 says carbon credit lockdowns are coming next.

01:44:10.000 MasterCard already rolled out a carbon credit tracker.

01:44:13.000 Unreal.

01:44:13.000 Search MasterCard carbon calculator.

01:44:15.000 It's up on their site now.

01:44:17.000 Driving taxes.

01:44:18.000 We didn't even get into that.

01:44:19.000 Eight cents.

01:44:19.000 You know what?

01:44:20.000 Can I have 16 bucks?

01:44:21.000 That's how much it cost me to get up here.

01:44:23.000 That's in the past.

01:44:24.000 Just buy your electric car.

01:44:25.000 No, it's in the bill.

01:44:27.000 It's in the bill.

01:44:28.000 Our electric vehicles omitted.

01:44:29.000 And this is... I'm not sure.

01:44:32.000 I think the purpose of it... I don't know if it's a carbon tax.

01:44:34.000 I think it's a road use tax.

01:44:35.000 Yeah.

01:44:36.000 Because if it was just supposed to be a carbon tax, you could argue, well, then they could just increase the amount that they place on gasoline because then that's going to tax people who use more gasoline more rather than just putting the pace on the mile.

01:44:44.000 I mean, this is a really terrible thing.

01:44:45.000 Yes it is, because I was reading, even Forbes was saying this, this is not from like some conspiracy theory website, but to implement this you would have to put a GPS tracker in everybody's car to know where they're driving all the time and how far they've gone.

01:44:57.000 That is insane.

01:44:58.000 Definitely not, definitely not.

01:44:59.000 First of all, first of all, there's computers in all of your cars already.

01:45:01.000 You go and get your inspection, they just plug the cord into the computer, the computer on the car tells the computer there all the information about your car that could easily transmit your mileage.

01:45:10.000 It gets recorded every time you register your car.

01:45:12.000 It gets recorded with your insurance.

01:45:13.000 That part will be easy.

01:45:13.000 By the way, you also carry a phone around with you everywhere you go.

01:45:16.000 It tracks where you are all the time.

01:45:17.000 I can leave that phone at home.

01:45:18.000 You can, but tracking it is not going to be that difficult.

01:45:21.000 I think the main issue is that if you make $40,000 a year and you drive 20,000 miles a year, that's $1,600 that you're paying, which is straight up 4% of your income, which means you have to work almost 10 days a year just to pay this new tax.

01:45:35.000 I agree that that's also horrible, but it's still extremely invasive.

01:45:42.000 I agree that that's insane, but even Forbes saying, like, oh, they'd have to put a GPS track in your car.

01:45:46.000 I mean, that's just unbelievably invasive and horrifying.

01:45:49.000 But I agree with you, that is outrageous.

01:45:51.000 Yeah.

01:45:51.000 Do you know that most cars for a long time have had self-driving capabilities?

01:45:56.000 Let me explain that.

01:45:57.000 I don't mean they can literally press a button and it would drive itself.

01:45:59.000 I mean, for the past decade, you could remote control a car.

01:46:03.000 The car didn't require a human being sitting in the seat for it to move and turn and drive.

01:46:07.000 The steering has been mechanized for a long time.

01:46:10.000 So when the car hackers back in the early 2010s were like, look what we can do.

01:46:14.000 Type in a keyboard and the car drives and just goes.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, cars could be remote controlled for a very long time.

01:46:21.000 Now all they're doing is putting cameras in those cars so they can calculate distance to objects.

01:46:27.000 I have a 2012, 13 Ford Explorer.

01:46:31.000 It's a nice car.

01:46:31.000 I've been taking care of it.

01:46:32.000 I rented a car the other day.

01:46:34.000 I'm driving, and I had no idea that it had technology in it. 0.99

01:46:37.000 I'm driving, and I'm like, why am I wrestling with this damn car? 0.94

01:46:42.000 I'm going over to the lane, and it's jerking me around. 0.99

01:46:45.000 I'm like, no.

01:46:46.000 I'm thinking there was something wrong with the car, something wrong with the road.

01:46:49.000 And I finally figured out, after a day of fighting, literally fighting with the car, that it was keeping me in the middle of the lane.

01:46:56.000 I had no idea.

01:46:57.000 Wow.

01:46:58.000 Yeah.

01:46:58.000 I had no idea.

01:46:59.000 I'm like fighting with modern cars.

01:47:01.000 A lot of them do this.

01:47:01.000 Yeah.

01:47:02.000 I'm trying cause you know, I like to change lanes.

01:47:04.000 Sometimes I don't always use a signal.

01:47:05.000 And if you don't put the signal on, you start to cross over the line without using your signal and it will jerk you back into the middle.

01:47:11.000 So I'm thinking I'm like having this wrestling match with the car on the highway.

01:47:16.000 And then I learned, Oh, you have to put the signal on.

01:47:18.000 We got, we got an important one here.

01:47:19.000 Vaush says, Hey, speaking of finances, Seamus, did you ever pay Knowles that 50 bucks you promised him?

01:47:24.000 Uh, that's really more of a personal question.

01:47:27.000 I don't, I just don't think that that, like... You can be honest with me.

01:47:31.000 So the thing about, um, money is, if you guys want to support the show, uh, you can go to patreon.com slash freedom tunes, um, and maybe it would help.

01:47:39.000 But, uh, Michael Knowles and I have, uh, A wrestling match coming up?

01:47:45.000 We've reached an understanding.

01:47:49.000 I understand that he's going to keep emailing me, and he understands I'm not going to pay him.

01:47:54.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.

01:47:56.000 All right, Dozerman says, Tim, please play or read the last part of Eisenhower's speech.

01:48:00.000 He mentions the medical and technological elite setting public policy.

01:48:05.000 I'm just, you know what I'm really fed up with?

01:48:07.000 These Luddites resisting the technocracy.

01:48:09.000 Yeah, of course.

01:48:10.000 Who do they think they are?

01:48:11.000 Mark Zuckerberg is amazing, brilliant.

01:48:16.000 Just look into his eyes.

01:48:17.000 He's so warm and loving.

01:48:18.000 I know.

01:48:18.000 He's taking care of you.

01:48:19.000 He's obviously a caretaker.

01:48:20.000 Look, you just go on Facebook.

01:48:24.000 You don't even have to think.

01:48:26.000 It's just all there for you.

01:48:27.000 You go on Twitter, they tell you on the right side of the screen what's true and what's not.

01:48:31.000 You don't even have to think about it.

01:48:33.000 Well, it's true.

01:48:34.000 I mean, I love that they have gotten everything right throughout the entire pandemic, and all the things that they said were conspiracy theories that we shouldn't talk about turned out to be conspiracy theories we shouldn't talk about.

01:48:45.000 No one's taking those things seriously at this point.

01:48:47.000 So I love that they got everything right, and it makes a lot of sense that they're doubling down right now on censoring people because they've been nothing but correct the entire time, and the people disagreeing with them have not been validated once.

01:48:57.000 I need my electrolyte drink.

01:49:00.000 Plants like electrolytes.

01:49:01.000 Plants like it's got what plants need.

01:49:05.000 I'll tell you why I'm going full bore with this Metaverse project is because I do think that the technocracy is coming and so I want to build it first as a free software and open source software so that we have control over it or some sense of liberty when we use it.

01:49:18.000 Otherwise it's going to be created privately and dangerous.

01:49:21.000 What the culture war is, is the Federation versus the Borg. 0.72

01:49:25.000 You have varying cultures and ideas and ideologies and debates and conversations versus one unified cult ideology that is plugged into their network that believe everything that's sent to them.

01:49:37.000 So they are not the Borg in the sense that they're fully plugged in mechanized, but this phone Keeps these people from escaping their paranoid, delusional state.

01:49:47.000 Even when they're wrong.

01:49:49.000 And obviously wrong.

01:49:51.000 And insanely wrong.

01:49:52.000 They still watch Rachel Maddow.

01:49:55.000 They still go to their phone and say, just tell me what to think!

01:49:58.000 Oh, that changed?

01:49:59.000 I don't care, I'll do whatever you say!

01:50:01.000 They are networked.

01:50:03.000 Like the board.

01:50:04.000 There's a large portion of them.

01:50:06.000 So if you gave a borg some psilocybin, they would snap out of it? 1.00

01:50:10.000 Is this like give a mouse a cookie?

01:50:12.000 Yeah, kind of.

01:50:12.000 Give a borg some psilocybin?

01:50:13.000 I don't know what happens.

01:50:14.000 I have no idea.

01:50:15.000 You know?

01:50:15.000 I don't even know.

01:50:16.000 That's how you do it.

01:50:17.000 That's how you beat the borg.

01:50:19.000 I don't know, I think it's the opposite.

01:50:20.000 I think they have the borg really drugged up and that's what... Vanessa Stuller says, on the dating. 0.88

01:50:25.000 Matt Christensen's media website has a dating app for his and Blonde's listeners.

01:50:29.000 There have been many marriages found through that link, based on similar interests.

01:50:32.000 People emailed me, apparently they were saying, like, you should make a TimCast dating app so that listeners of the show can, like, connect with each other, and I'm like, that's a little too far for me, you know what I mean?

01:50:40.000 Like, maybe the metaverse will have, like... What?

01:50:43.000 A dating function in it?

01:50:44.000 Yeah, where you can find people.

01:50:46.000 Or you don't need a dating app! 1.00

01:50:47.000 You just message someone.

01:50:48.000 You don't want to be Love Doctor Tim?

01:50:50.000 Here's what you do.

01:50:51.000 Seamus, you go in the comments of any Timcast article, and you say, I'm a single 34-year-old male, and I'm looking for a long walk on the beach, and then those fly honeys will respond, and boom!

01:51:02.000 It's true.

01:51:03.000 It's actually true.

01:51:04.000 Boom.

01:51:04.000 You wanna get girls?

01:51:05.000 Timcast.com.

01:51:06.000 That's right.

01:51:06.000 Become a member at Timcast.com.

01:51:08.000 We should make a commercial where it's like a guy, he signs up, and then all of a sudden a bunch of beautiful women come into his room, And he's like, yeah, and they're all like dancing, like beer commercials.

01:51:16.000 Here's what we need to do.

01:51:17.000 You need to start a dating platform on the website, and then we need to start a podcast called Love Dr. Seamus, where people call in when they are having problems with their relationships.

01:51:26.000 Like usually you call, you call tech support if you have a problem with the website, but if you're having a problem with the relationship you formed on the website, you call Seamus for relationship support.

01:51:34.000 I love doctor.

01:51:36.000 I am not telling you what you're doing.

01:51:38.000 I'm like, you need to listen more.

01:51:40.000 You need to, let's do it.

01:51:41.000 Let's do it.

01:51:42.000 I'm so down.

01:51:43.000 You think I'm kidding?

01:51:43.000 Oh my goodness.

01:51:44.000 I'm not kidding.

01:51:44.000 Let's do it.

01:51:45.000 Love Dr. Coghlan.

01:51:47.000 Love Dr. Jimmy Mac.

01:51:48.000 Dr. Mac.

01:51:49.000 That's it.

01:51:50.000 It all comes together.

01:51:51.000 And then we'll have to have, like, at the beginning of every episode, James Coghlan is not a doctor.

01:51:54.000 James Coghlan is not a doctor and is absolutely not qualified to be giving the advice he's giving.

01:51:58.000 Please don't listen to anything he says.

01:52:00.000 But do by Bickwin.

01:52:00.000 Viewer discretion is advised.

01:52:05.000 I'm taking a sauna tonight.

01:52:07.000 Oh.

01:52:07.000 Yeah.

01:52:07.000 I've decided.

01:52:10.000 All right, let's, uh... I'm gonna shower first, though.

01:52:13.000 Always shower before.

01:52:14.000 No, it stinks up the sauna if you don't shower before.

01:52:16.000 Well, I guess you would know.

01:52:17.000 Before and after.

01:52:19.000 I'll fight you naked says, real friends can scream at each other and have a beer afterwards. 0.99

01:52:23.000 It's true. 0.91

01:52:24.000 Or have a beer and then scream at each other afterwards.

01:52:27.000 That's usually how it's done.

01:52:28.000 The order is usually reversed.

01:52:33.000 Madrock says, check out Altered Carbon on Netflix.

01:52:36.000 It's a lot of what you're talking about.

01:52:37.000 People have implants with their memories and they can move to other bodies.

01:52:42.000 Altered Carbon season one was amazing.

01:52:45.000 Season two was like, huh?

01:52:47.000 Like the first one is, it's a dystopian world, Earth.

01:52:51.000 People have these things in their necks and they can actually, you know, they can have their consciousness transported to other planets and other bodies and things like that.

01:53:00.000 And it's about, like, corruption and mafias and things like that. 1.00

01:53:03.000 There's a really cool scene where this dude, uh, the main character, is undergoing, like, virtual torture, but he's, like, this elite commando and can, like, break free, and then they're freaking out.

01:53:14.000 It's awesome.

01:53:15.000 And the second one is, like, ancient aliens and, like, DNA and just, I don't know, other planets.

01:53:20.000 It's kind of weird, but Altered Carbon's an awesome show.

01:53:23.000 Yeah, the fungus.

01:53:23.000 They're like, this is where mushrooms came from, you guys.

01:53:25.000 Oh, I mean, obviously the greatest movie of all time is the Super Mario Bros.

01:53:28.000 movie.

01:53:28.000 Yeah, where they eat the mushroom.

01:53:30.000 No, no, are you serious?

01:53:31.000 Beverly Hills Chihuahuas 3, Viva La Fiesta?

01:53:34.000 Is that what it's called?

01:53:35.000 Yes!

01:53:38.000 You guys are plebs. 0.98

01:53:39.000 You can go in the sauna with Seamus and then put up the projector and then watch that. 0.92

01:53:42.000 I would never go into a sauna.

01:53:43.000 I'm a big fan of Psycho Cop 2 Psycho Cop Returns.

01:53:46.000 Is that a film?

01:53:47.000 Is that a real film?

01:53:49.000 Police Academy 6.

01:53:50.000 This is good.

01:53:51.000 Jason Diaz says you have to get the YouTuber CGP Grey on.

01:53:55.000 He has a video on, quote, the trouble with transporters.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, CGP Grey is awesome.

01:54:01.000 He has a video from a long time ago called, This Video Will Make You Angry, that breaks down the culture war.

01:54:05.000 And it just tells you how Tim Poole acts.

01:54:06.000 He's just like examining Tim Poole.

01:54:08.000 It's like just pictures of me.

01:54:10.000 He's like, I hate this guy! 1.00

01:54:11.000 He's so dumb! 1.00

01:54:12.000 And I'm like, CGP Grey, why are you mad at me? 1.00

01:54:14.000 I don't even know you!

01:54:16.000 No, but it's basically like, he talks about how online communities pretend that they're debating against someone, but they're really debating amongst themselves about how much they hate another.

01:54:25.000 Yeah.

01:54:25.000 And riling each other up.

01:54:27.000 And you see this all the time when you go on Reddit or you, if you look at like, uh, there's a political compass memes on Reddit is one of the best online communities ever.

01:54:33.000 And I'm, I'm not even kidding because they actually are different political ideologies having conversations.

01:54:39.000 And one of them that popped up today was left and right.

01:54:42.000 and it was a leftist saying capitalism is bad and the right saying capitalism is good and then it

01:54:47.000 said they're using two completely different definitions of capitalism the left is talking

01:54:51.000 about corporatism which the right agrees with is bad and the right is talking about open commerce

01:54:56.000 which the left agrees with is good. That is very interesting.

01:54:59.000 So the right is like, regular working class people should be able to work without interference from corporate crony garbage, and that's what they call capitalism.

01:55:07.000 And the left says basically the same thing, but they just have decided different words, so they hate each other, I guess.

01:55:13.000 Well, I think it's also because the left would argue that if you have a system of free exchange, inevitably people won't make the right decisions and power will be consolidated, which there is truth in.

01:55:21.000 But that's the authoritarian left, not the libertarian left.

01:55:24.000 Interesting.

01:55:25.000 Yeah, you've got lib left people who are like, capitalism is evil.

01:55:28.000 And I'm like, you're talking about corrupt corporation.

01:55:30.000 You're talking about corruption.

01:55:32.000 Like, a system where people freely choose how they want to live is not a bad thing.

01:55:36.000 No one, libertarian side, left or right, don't disagree.

01:55:38.000 But they're just talking about, I hate corruption.

01:55:40.000 Government corruption, corporate corruption, corruption is bad.

01:55:45.000 Agreed.

01:55:46.000 All right, then.

01:55:47.000 No, I think corruption is good, actually.

01:55:48.000 Hold on, let's talk about this.

01:55:51.000 We must debate the idea.

01:55:52.000 Hold on, I think this is a conversation.

01:55:53.000 Just to create another.

01:55:55.000 Who's our other?

01:55:55.000 Who do we hate today?

01:55:56.000 Exactly, me.

01:55:58.000 Oh, you're always.

01:55:58.000 Christopher, actually, so Christopher Fisher has a question, but I want to actually ask a question based on his question before reading it.

01:56:06.000 Do you think that cows have souls?

01:56:08.000 Yeah, I believe all animals, I believe every living thing has a soul, but there are different kinds of souls.

01:56:12.000 What about a cloned cow?

01:56:13.000 Yeah, it has a soul.

01:56:14.000 A cloned cow?

01:56:14.000 Yeah, clones have souls.

01:56:15.000 The same soul or a different soul?

01:56:16.000 Well, because we, so here's the thing, clones occur, so we label it differently, and it is a different process, but, so for example, with twins, right, if it is an identical twin, what happens is the zygote splits, right, at that early phase.

01:56:31.000 I believe, I mean, well, the biological consensus is life begins at fertilization, so I shouldn't call it a belief, it's a fact, And as Catholics who believe there's a body-soul composite, we believe in soulment occurs at that moment.

01:56:43.000 And so when you have a zygote split and twins occur, we don't believe that like one twin has a soul and one doesn't.

01:56:50.000 We believe both have a soul.

01:56:52.000 So I would say if you clone, the clone still has a soul.

01:56:55.000 Even though I believe cloning is morally wrong, I don't think that the clone doesn't have a soul.

01:56:59.000 If it's being animated, it's being animated by a soul.

01:57:02.000 What if Earth is just like a soul factory where life creates souls and then like when you're born the soul like grows and develops and then when you die your soul shuffles off into this gigantic Cthulhu monster who just eats your soul?

01:57:17.000 I hope not.

01:57:19.000 Yeah, that would suck. 0.98

01:57:20.000 Shaped like a plasmoid, right? 0.99

01:57:21.000 Yeah, it'd be a plasmoid.

01:57:22.000 And so like you die and then you're like, I'm going, I'm traveling, wow, what's that gigantic?

01:57:27.000 Oh no!

01:57:29.000 And then you...

01:57:30.000 Yeah, the Earth has a magnetic field that's like a torus of energy.

01:57:33.000 And then the Sun has one that the Earth is within, this big field.

01:57:36.000 So then the galaxy has one that the Sun is within.

01:57:39.000 And in every field, you see one of these magnetic lines go straight up and away from the galaxy.

01:57:45.000 And we don't really know where it heads, but assumedly the universal core.

01:57:49.000 So I would imagine, uh, what are we talking about?

01:57:55.000 That the soul is... I was about to ask you!

01:57:57.000 That the soul moves from body to body?

01:58:00.000 That's what happens when we make eye contact.

01:58:01.000 I know, I got lost in Jack's eyes.

01:58:04.000 You're gorgeous there for a minute, Jack.

01:58:06.000 Well then!

01:58:08.000 Charles Baliozian says, I watched this show nightly with my dog by my side.

01:58:12.000 She popped her head up at the TV and visibly disagreed with you, Jack and Seamus. 0.99

01:58:16.000 She's also a machine who hunts rabbits. 1.00

01:58:19.000 I'm getting texts from my fiancée.

01:58:22.000 Don't you talk bad about our dog!

01:58:24.000 Don't you diss on Rosie! 1.00

01:58:26.000 Stop insulting Rosie!

01:58:29.000 I love you, Rosie.

01:58:30.000 I love you.

01:58:31.000 Okay, so she has a soul.

01:58:33.000 You think she has a soul, but it's different than a human soul? 0.98

01:58:36.000 It's a little one.

01:58:36.000 I don't know.

01:58:37.000 I was just asking questions.

01:58:38.000 Just playing devil's advocate.

01:58:39.000 I was taking on the Ian job for a second.

01:58:41.000 Thanks. 0.75

01:58:41.000 You know, I wasn't gonna say playing dumb, but you know. 0.75

01:58:44.000 Jack of Blades says, I demand the Illinois boys play Shadowrun. 0.57

01:58:47.000 It's a cyberpunk TT RPG game with magic, and if you go too hard into being a cyborg, your soul dies.

01:58:53.000 Do you think the Illinois boys take demands?

01:58:56.000 That's my first thought.

01:58:58.000 Alright, so if you had to pick- That's true.

01:59:00.000 If you had to pick become a cyborg or a mage, what would you pick?

01:59:02.000 Neither.

01:59:04.000 I would choose to go to heaven instead.

01:59:05.000 Priest.

01:59:05.000 You divine priest.

01:59:06.000 Would you, would you, would you, they're priests in D&D, right?

01:59:09.000 In D&D for sure.

01:59:10.000 I think, I don't know in Shadowrun if they have divine magic or not.

01:59:12.000 But like, it's a caricature of a priest, you know?

01:59:15.000 Yeah.

01:59:17.000 They like magic spells.

01:59:19.000 Sure.

01:59:19.000 Yeah.

01:59:20.000 They can like summon lightning and like heal people with their hands.

01:59:22.000 I mean, it's like the full on mythic priest.

01:59:25.000 A healer.

01:59:26.000 A healer.

01:59:26.000 Some priests can become healers.

01:59:27.000 Some can be like priests of chaos and like call on hammers and they can't heal.

01:59:32.000 They can only harm evil priests.

01:59:34.000 Maybe a druid.

01:59:35.000 Druids are more nature magic.

01:59:37.000 They do use, I think, divine magic as well.

01:59:39.000 I just don't think an Acolyte can use a damage spell.

01:59:42.000 Only healing spells. 0.69

01:59:43.000 There's some evil priests out there. 0.98

01:59:44.000 Some evil, evil divine beings out there. 0.95

01:59:46.000 See, I'm totally LARPing on my LARPing here.

01:59:48.000 I have no idea what I'm talking about.

01:59:49.000 There's no idea what he's talking about.

01:59:50.000 So, if you had to pick, Mage?

01:59:51.000 Me either.

01:59:52.000 Technologist?

01:59:53.000 Or would you just be like a brute fighter?

01:59:55.000 Would you jack your head into the wall and like, and hack computers?

01:59:58.000 Why are these the options of what I can do with my life? 0.92

02:00:01.000 Can I be a human?

02:00:02.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 Would you be a dwarf?

02:00:03.000 Or are we dancer?

02:00:04.000 Is the question.

02:00:05.000 Derek Elwell says, Ian was right about mushrooms.

02:00:08.000 They've proven spores survive the vacuum of space.

02:00:11.000 Mushrooms were here before plants.

02:00:13.000 They break down rocks and create the first soil layer on earth.

02:00:16.000 Check out Paul Stamets.

02:00:17.000 Yes, Paul Stamets.

02:00:18.000 Just because spores survive in space doesn't mean they came from space.

02:00:22.000 Logic!

02:00:23.000 But it's evidence that they could have.

02:00:24.000 It means that it is a, I don't know if it's, it's not evidence, but it simply points to the fact that you cannot disprove it by saying spores can't survive in space.

02:00:35.000 What he said sounded smart.

02:00:36.000 I would actually echo Paul Stamets.

02:00:38.000 He's like the leading global mycologist.

02:00:40.000 He's the mushroom guy.

02:00:41.000 Phenomenal human.

02:00:42.000 You think I have respect for the field of mycology?

02:00:43.000 You're gonna love Paul.

02:00:45.000 It's a sham.

02:00:46.000 He's in a pod.

02:00:48.000 Mushrooms!

02:00:51.000 I love this quote.

02:00:51.000 It's like, I want to give thanks to all the people who came before me who ate mushrooms and died so that I know which ones I can eat for my salads and cheeseburgers.

02:01:00.000 Every time I go to the store, I'm like, I love mushrooms.

02:01:02.000 Just putting it on that sandwich or whatever.

02:01:06.000 Someone had to die so that we could know which ones we're able to eat.

02:01:10.000 Alright, we got one more very important one.

02:01:12.000 Yes!

02:01:13.000 I mean, truth be told, Ian is the reason, well... Ian is the backbone of society.

02:01:16.000 He's most the reason I watch.

02:01:18.000 Tim mostly just covers the articles while Ian is the man for us 2015 woke alien boys.

02:01:22.000 Yes!

02:01:23.000 I mean truth be told Ian is the reason- wow.

02:01:26.000 Ian is the backbone of society.

02:01:27.000 Also Lydia.

02:01:28.000 Are the reason why I keep coming back.

02:01:30.000 Well I mean Illinois boys.

02:01:32.000 I mean, Seamus.

02:01:32.000 Jack, it's just a little weird that you're not grateful for my contribution when you're coming back.

02:01:36.000 I gotta read these too.

02:01:37.000 We'll start with, Rick Ortiz says, You're an absolute Muppet, Ian.

02:01:42.000 Yes!

02:01:42.000 But then Albedam says, OMFG I love Ian and the tangents he goes on.

02:01:47.000 At least they're talking about me.

02:01:48.000 No, that's the thing, dude.

02:01:50.000 The world we live in, yeah.

02:01:51.000 All I care about is helping people, man.

02:01:53.000 Could you imagine how dark and pessimistic this show would be without Ian?

02:01:57.000 I'd be like, the world's ending and we're losing, and then Ian's like, but the vibrations and the aliens are coming, and then we're like, all laughing.

02:02:03.000 We're bringing it back.

02:02:04.000 More for genetic healing fields, yeah.

02:02:07.000 Yes, exactly that.

02:02:09.000 All right, everybody.

02:02:10.000 We're gonna make this members-only Illinois Boys special.

02:02:15.000 It's gonna be a full 10-hour special podcast.

02:02:18.000 I'm kidding.

02:02:18.000 Wait, hold on.

02:02:19.000 No sleeping.

02:02:20.000 So go to TimCast.com.

02:02:22.000 I have a video to upload tomorrow.

02:02:23.000 I can't just do 10 more hours?

02:02:25.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:02:27.000 We'll have that up hopefully around 11 or so.

02:02:29.000 Smash that like button.

02:02:30.000 Subscribe to this channel.

02:02:31.000 You can follow me everywhere at TimCast.

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02:02:36.000 Do you guys want to figure out who gets to shout out first?

02:02:39.000 You go first.

02:02:40.000 You go first.

02:02:41.000 Ian, you want to go first?

02:02:42.000 Yeah, well, Lydia, you should go first, because we skipped you in the intro. 1.00

02:02:44.000 I just don't think we need to hear from Lydia at all.

02:02:47.000 So you should go first.

02:02:48.000 Seamus made me do it.

02:02:49.000 I was like, come on, Seamus.

02:02:50.000 No one was like, Jack, you do not introduce Lydia!

02:02:51.000 If you introduce Lydia, I'll be so angry.

02:02:53.000 I'll elbow myself to the front of the line.

02:02:55.000 Jack Brunch, follow us at Jack Brunch on Twitter, jackbrunch.com.

02:03:00.000 We've got what's coming up.

02:03:01.000 We're going to Tampa on 10-10.

02:03:03.000 We've got Nashville on 10-24.

02:03:05.000 We've got Austin the beginning of December.

02:03:08.000 Then we're going out west.

02:03:09.000 We're doing Denver, Seattle, LA, San Francisco.

02:03:13.000 Check it out.

02:03:13.000 Also follow me at Jack Merrifield Live or join the Illumina Order.

02:03:18.000 I'd like to apologize to Lydia.

02:03:19.000 That was rude.

02:03:21.000 That was exceptionally harsh.

02:03:22.000 I'm sorry.

02:03:23.000 I was just giving you a hard time.

02:03:25.000 You were just being honest.

02:03:25.000 You should have heard how rude she was to me before the show.

02:03:27.000 It's the 40-year scotch.

02:03:28.000 I just start being mean.

02:03:30.000 She was throwing pretzels at Seamus. 0.97

02:03:31.000 It's true.

02:03:32.000 Before the show, Tim can tell you the way I'm tormented in this house. 1.00

02:03:35.000 I show up, she gives me a big hug, you show up, and she just throws crap at your face. 0.99

02:03:38.000 She just throws stuff at me. 0.99

02:03:39.000 Seamus was playing Galaga the other day and we were all just laughing and high-fiving and making fun of him.

02:03:43.000 I was crushed!

02:03:44.000 I beat Tim's high score and he refused to acknowledge it.

02:03:46.000 So what happened was, and I'll tell you the true story.

02:03:48.000 So I had like a, the high score, like the default was a 20K.

02:03:51.000 And so my Galaga score was like 27,000.

02:03:53.000 And then Seamus came in and he couldn't beat it. 0.99

02:03:55.000 And then we were all laughing like, look at him, he's so dumb, 1.00

02:03:58.000 he can't even do the captured fire trick. 1.00

02:04:00.000 That's why I lashed out at Lydia. 0.96

02:04:01.000 So all day today, Seamus was just playing the game nonstop for hours.

02:04:06.000 That's not true, that's literally not true.

02:04:08.000 It's true, I was skating in the park and I come upstairs and I see him, he's just like playing the game.

02:04:11.000 First of all, I was working all day.

02:04:12.000 And then finally at like 6 p.m.

02:04:14.000 He's like, he writes the score.

02:04:17.000 And I was like, well, so I ended up getting.

02:04:19.000 So, so Seamus beat me when I had 27, got like 31 and then I got 47.

02:04:22.000 And now I've got 63.

02:04:23.000 So that's pretty embarrassing for you too.

02:04:26.000 And he was playing all day.

02:04:27.000 I was not, I was literally, my, my workers can attest to the fact that I was working with them through today.

02:04:32.000 And you know what?

02:04:33.000 I played the, I think maybe I played like three times today and still beat your high score.

02:04:37.000 Still beat your high score.

02:04:39.000 I'm good at Galaga.

02:04:39.000 Do you get the double ship or do you just bypass the double ship?

02:04:42.000 Because I hear the thing about the double ship.

02:04:44.000 I don't use the double ship.

02:04:45.000 Yeah, I hear you have more service area to get blown up.

02:04:47.000 Exactly.

02:04:48.000 And I've seen experts, they just go single ship the whole way.

02:04:51.000 Also, that one only gives you one extra life.

02:04:53.000 I play in the arcade, there's two extra lives.

02:04:55.000 Two.

02:04:56.000 So I did the... Seamus, that counts as your promo.

02:04:59.000 Lydia, what's your... I deserve it for being rude to Lydia when she's literally been nothing but kind.

02:05:03.000 You're fine.

02:05:04.000 How about Ian?

02:05:05.000 How about we go in order?

02:05:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:05:06.000 Let's do that.

02:05:07.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:05:09.000 I'm from Akron, Ohio.

02:05:10.000 I'm 42.

02:05:12.000 And I love technology.

02:05:14.000 Thank you, guys.

02:05:15.000 It all checks out.

02:05:16.000 I can fact check all of that.

02:05:17.000 So I've been sitting here in the corner laughing at these guys.

02:05:20.000 Like I always do with the Illinois boys.

02:05:22.000 They crack me up.

02:05:23.000 You guys are more than welcome to follow me at Sour Patchlets on Twitter.

02:05:26.000 Hey, guys.

02:05:27.000 I just want to apologize a third time here for being mean to my friend.

02:05:33.000 My name is Seamus Coghlan.

02:05:34.000 I have a channel called Freedom Tunes.

02:05:36.000 We make cartoons about politics and whatnot.

02:05:39.000 We upload once a week, sometimes twice a week.

02:05:41.000 We uploaded, I think, a pretty funny video yesterday.

02:05:43.000 I think one of the funniest videos ever made, as a matter of fact, if you guys want to check that out.

02:05:48.000 And we're going to be uploading one tomorrow.

02:05:50.000 So yeah, go check us out.

02:05:51.000 Freedom Tunes.

02:05:52.000 Go to Patreon.com slash Freedom Tunes if you want to help us make more.

02:05:55.000 I love all of you.

02:05:55.000 Sweet.

02:05:56.000 Everybody, we'll see you over at TimCast.com for that special Illinois Boys bonus segment.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 29, 2021

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