Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - DOJ Seeks PRISON For Pundit Over J6 Speech, Owen Shroyer Targeted w-Martha Bueno

00:00:04.000 You know, I hate to say, I told you so!

00:00:07.000 But I missed this story when it came out on the 5th.

00:00:10.000 We're going to go over it tonight.

00:00:10.000 I talked about it earlier today.

00:00:11.000 Owen Schroer is being targeted by the DOJ.

00:00:14.000 They want 120 days in prison.

00:00:16.000 Why?

00:00:18.000 Speech.

00:00:19.000 Owen Schroer, a pundit, personality and journalist for InfoWars, said some things.

00:00:25.000 And for the things he said, the DOJ says he should go to prison for it.

00:00:29.000 And this is what I said was going to happen.

00:00:31.000 I said, now they're going after, they go after Trump, they go after his lawyers, the next people in line are going to be the pundits who are advocating for or encouraging people on January 6th.

00:00:40.000 First person in line, Owen Schroyer.

00:00:42.000 Now, a few important details.

00:00:45.000 He did not go into the Capitol.

00:00:47.000 The Infowars team had a permit to have a rally outside the Capitol in a different area.

00:00:52.000 Owen Schroyer was on Capitol grounds.

00:00:54.000 This is the initial pretext they get to charge him.

00:00:57.000 He pleads guilty.

00:00:58.000 They then say in the sentencing document, the prosecutor says, because of his speech before, during, and after the event, he should get this amount of time in prison.

00:01:12.000 It's not a one-for-one to what I was exactly describing, but it's basically the opening the door, the midway point.

00:01:18.000 A guy said some things about January 6th, encouraged people, he challenged the established order, and for that he should go to prison.

00:01:25.000 We're gonna talk about that.

00:01:27.000 We do have a lot of good news, though.

00:01:29.000 And the reason why they're getting so heavy-handed?

00:01:31.000 CNN's got a poll out.

00:01:33.000 Trump's winning.

00:01:34.000 If the election were held today, Trump wins.

00:01:38.000 Yeah.

00:01:39.000 It's within the margin of error, but he's beating Biden and CNN says never in the 2020 cycle did they have polls that showed this level of this high probability for Donald Trump.

00:01:50.000 You also have a Yankees game.

00:01:52.000 A banner was unfurled that said Trump or death.

00:01:54.000 So I certainly hope not.

00:01:56.000 But it's getting crazy out there.

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00:03:04.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Martha Bueno. 0.99

00:03:08.000 Hello, good evening.

00:03:09.000 Yeah, who are you?

00:03:09.000 What do you do?

00:03:11.000 So, thank you so much for having me.

00:03:12.000 I'm Martha Bueno.

00:03:13.000 I am a liberty activist and I am the first person in the United States to have used OnlyFans as a campaign, as a method to campaign.

00:03:23.000 I am also an entrepreneur.

00:03:26.000 In what way, though, is the question?

00:03:29.000 How did I use OnlyFans?

00:03:32.000 I put political content on OnlyFans.

00:03:35.000 It was very G-rated, however... Right, because immediate people are like, what are you saying?

00:03:39.000 Are you saying you did adult?

00:03:40.000 The spice level was about green pepper level.

00:03:43.000 Oh, green pepper.

00:03:44.000 It was spicy.

00:03:48.000 Right on, right on.

00:03:49.000 So what are you doing now?

00:03:51.000 Currently, I just launched Argood.

00:03:53.000 It is a new way to consume Delta-8 and other cannabinoids.

00:04:00.000 You can check us out at Argood.com.

00:04:02.000 Right on.

00:04:02.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:04:03.000 We got Phil Labonte.

00:04:04.000 Hello, everybody.

00:04:05.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:04:06.000 I am the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, and I am an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:04:11.000 Missed you last week.

00:04:12.000 We had a great episode with Jackson Hinkle.

00:04:14.000 See you again soon.

00:04:15.000 Hey, I found, I just read recently that people want to polish the Statue of Liberty.

00:04:20.000 All that green, it's green because it's basically oxidized copper, and if you polish it down, it's going to be like a bronze, copper, shiny.

00:04:27.000 Would you guys Suggest putting tax money into that would that be a good

00:04:30.000 public works project. I actually don't hate the idea and I think that

00:04:34.000 New Jersey and New York should actually compete for who's gonna actually clean it up because Jersey's always saying

00:04:42.000 Oh, you know Ellis Island or I mean a Liberty Islands in New Jersey. It's not New York blah blah blah

00:04:46.000 So let them fight about it, and whoever cleans it gets to have it for a year.

00:04:50.000 T-Mobile.

00:04:51.000 The next year.

00:04:51.000 T-Mobile wins the bid and it's the T-Mobile Statue of Liberty.

00:04:53.000 I hope that doesn't happen.

00:04:55.000 For the remainder of the contract.

00:04:56.000 I really hope that doesn't happen.

00:04:57.000 I think it's fine that it's green, I don't know, whatever.

00:04:59.000 Yeah.

00:04:59.000 It looked cool.

00:05:00.000 The picture that they showed of it was like, wow, it could be shining sunlight.

00:05:03.000 That'd be cool.

00:05:03.000 The tweet that he was hard, the tweet when they were talking about it, he was talking about like doing it as an idea of like rejuvenating American, bringing American spirit back and et cetera.

00:05:12.000 And there are times where those kind of policies or those kind of, uh, Things can inspire people.

00:05:18.000 I don't know if it's a great idea, I don't know if it's going to do a whole lot, but I don't think it's a... It's not a horrible idea, it'd be kind of neat.

00:05:26.000 Let me know in the chat.

00:05:26.000 We also have Carter Banks in tonight.

00:05:29.000 What's up, guys?

00:05:30.000 Filling in for Kellen, he's filling in for Serge.

00:05:32.000 I think we should keep it green for now, just for old time's sake.

00:05:37.000 For old time's sake?

00:05:38.000 Technically, old time's sake would be to polish it.

00:05:40.000 I'd say polish it.

00:05:42.000 All of it.

00:05:44.000 I like green.

00:05:44.000 I don't know.

00:05:45.000 All right.

00:05:45.000 Well, let's jump into this first story.

00:05:47.000 It's from none other than everyone's favorite Media Matters for America.

00:05:51.000 Ah, yes. 0.98

00:05:51.000 Trash can. 0.98

00:05:51.000 I actually, I actually really like this article. 0.98

00:05:53.000 It says Alex Jones claims InfoWars host Owen Schroer was charged for free speech.

00:05:57.000 That's it.

00:05:57.000 They don't insult Alex Jones.

00:05:59.000 They don't write anything.

00:06:00.000 They literally just post a quote and a video of Alex Jones, which I will play a bit for you here right now.

00:06:07.000 I think Now, this deals with Owen, and this deals with the rest of the January 6th people, where their lawyers are like, we don't want you to antagonize the system.

00:06:17.000 We don't want you to sit there and do much stuff.

00:06:20.000 Let us try to not get them in prison.

00:06:21.000 I'm like, well, I want to defend them.

00:06:22.000 I want to talk about it.

00:06:23.000 Well, it's up to them if they want help or not.

00:06:26.000 And Owen's a smart cookie, but they're trying to put Owen in jail, in prison.

00:06:31.000 They filed last night.

00:06:33.000 He's sentenced next week.

00:06:35.000 Goes to D.C.

00:06:39.000 I didn't cover it, but the Gateway Pundit did.

00:06:41.000 Breaking DC Prosecutor's Seek.

00:06:43.000 120 days in prison for Owen Schroer for speaking out against Stone Election 2020.

00:06:50.000 Speech on crime.

00:06:51.000 Now that's not just the Gateway Pundit's headline.

00:06:55.000 I have, overhead shot please, right here, the charging document the feds put forward.

00:07:00.000 Here it is.

00:07:01.000 We actually have that as well.

00:07:03.000 And so in the charging document, I'm not going to read through the whole thing, They basically say, before January 6th, on January 6th, and after January 6th, Owen Schroyer had said things that incited people.

00:07:18.000 And, uh, for that, they are seeking this sentence.

00:07:21.000 The criminal charge against him is not for speech.

00:07:24.000 It's for, uh, being on the Capitol grounds.

00:07:26.000 But they're arguing that he is the reason people stormed the Capitol.

00:07:30.000 They highlight this.

00:07:32.000 Be a part of history.

00:07:33.000 Fight for Trump.

00:07:33.000 And it shows people outside the Capitol, uh, Alex Jones and, oh, and with bullhorns.

00:07:38.000 And if you scroll down, I'll jump down to, uh, right before they get to their, their recommendations.

00:07:44.000 They go on to mention, uh, let's see, uh, I want to try and find the specific portion.

00:07:49.000 May.

00:07:50.000 They go on to mention after the fact, August.

00:07:53.000 So this is for his speech, that they are seeking to put him in jail.

00:07:57.000 When I said that the next people they'd come for would be pundits, I didn't... I didn't mean, like, outright, it would be Owens or anything like that.

00:08:04.000 There are people who are not in the Capitol, who are not on the Capitol grounds, who I am referring to.

00:08:10.000 And there are people who are not even in D.C., who I am referring to.

00:08:14.000 I even said, like, prominent cable personalities who were in communications with Trump Legal's team who pushed the narrative.

00:08:20.000 Prominent personalities, many of whom got sued.

00:08:23.000 They're gonna come after them next.

00:08:25.000 But Owen Schroyer is in between.

00:08:27.000 He not only was there on the ground, he didn't go in the building, but he was also someone that they're seeking a prison sentence for over speech he made after the fact.

00:08:36.000 I blame Obama.

00:08:38.000 Yeah, why's that?

00:08:39.000 Because the precedent for going after journalists was set with Snowden and with Assange, and then the Obama administration went after James Rosen.

00:08:52.000 So the idea that this is the first time?

00:08:55.000 No, this is something that's been in motion for a long time, and there's a lot of people People around this table and other pundits and stuff that have been vocal about how it's a bad thing that, you know, Snowden hasn't been pardoned and Assange hasn't been pardoned and it's a bad thing that Rosen went to jail.

00:09:14.000 And the Democrats didn't... Rosen actually went to jail?

00:09:17.000 Oh no, I'm sorry, that they... They went after him.

00:09:19.000 We've had him on the show, I'm pretty sure.

00:09:20.000 Yeah, he was here.

00:09:21.000 And he was talking about, you know, they wiretapped him and blah blah blah.

00:09:23.000 And, you know, The fact that we have allowed the government to get away with it is why it continues.

00:09:31.000 Now, the situation we're in right here, if this does happen and he goes to jail for speech, it's only going to be worse.

00:09:39.000 There's not going to be someone that says, okay, that's enough!

00:09:45.000 B.S.

00:09:45.000 They're gonna be like, alright, that worked.

00:09:47.000 The American people allowed it.

00:09:49.000 This is a new power we have.

00:09:52.000 And we can do this.

00:09:53.000 So, let's go back in time.

00:09:56.000 Let's go back to when the Biden administration targeted James Rosen, a journalist.

00:10:00.000 Tried to put him in jail.

00:10:01.000 When Obama charged whistleblowers and journalists under the Espionage Act more than any other president combined.

00:10:07.000 Than all the other presidents combined.

00:10:09.000 Yeah.

00:10:10.000 Imagine going back then when we were concerned about this and telling people In ten years, they're gonna put a guy in jail because he was on the Capitol grounds bullhorning, and then after the fact, he said stuff like, to a certain degree, we should be proud of what we did that day.

00:10:28.000 He said something like, he maintains the election was stolen.

00:10:33.000 One of the reasons they want him in jail is because they said, even after all of this, he still maintains the election was stolen.

00:10:38.000 As if he has to publicly change his opinion.

00:10:41.000 Yeah, this is...

00:10:42.000 This is Soviet-level, this is culture revolution-level communist authoritarianism.

00:10:50.000 Welcome to the future.

00:10:51.000 And it happens very quickly.

00:10:53.000 Very quickly.

00:10:54.000 It goes from you're free to you're not free.

00:10:57.000 I mean, look, we're discussing 10 years.

00:11:00.000 Not even, I mean, and think about the past few years.

00:11:03.000 Think about where we were six, seven years ago, and it's laughable to me that there are people who are like, ah, you're overreacting or you're, you know, it's exaggerating or it's shot content.

00:11:14.000 I'm like, dude, I think the issue is that Everybody is standing in the middle of the forest, and when you tell them, dude, you are in the middle of the forest, they're like, what do you mean?

00:11:25.000 Just a handful of trees.

00:11:25.000 Like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

00:11:26.000 I'm like, bro, you can't tell where all the other trees are because you're standing in the middle of all of them.

00:11:29.000 Yeah, you gotta look at 9- I mean, 9-11 is like...

00:11:33.000 Yo, when you see those buildings fall in free fall, most people can understand it when they see the... Okay, hold on.

00:11:39.000 Nah.

00:11:40.000 You want to talk about the slow boil?

00:11:42.000 Way too far.

00:11:44.000 That's the beginning of this totalitarian seizure, man.

00:11:46.000 I can respect that, but you gotta slow down a little bit.

00:11:48.000 The way that the government... You gotta talk about, okay, so we ended up in this position with the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:11:54.000 That was like 2010 or something?

00:11:56.000 2000, I think that was 2012.

00:11:57.000 Which gave the indefinite, which signed into law the indefinite detention provision, which is an offshoot of what is effectively the Bush-era expansion of authoritarianism, anti-terror policies, and the expansion of the creation of DHS, which emerges out of the Patriot Act, which starts after 9-11.

00:12:12.000 I watched it happen in real time, too.

00:12:14.000 It was crazy, and like...

00:12:15.000 I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying we gotta explain to people how we get from point A to point B. Right, this would set like a precedent for that to be acceptable if they were to pull that off.

00:12:23.000 And now it is.

00:12:24.000 Now we're here.

00:12:25.000 When we talked in 2012 about the indefinite detention provision that Obama signed into law, the NDA provision that says they could snatch you up in the middle of the night without charge or trial, hold you on a military vessel 11 miles off the coast of this country and rendition you, We were like, that's scary.

00:12:44.000 And the response from everybody is, oh, you're nuts, that's never gonna happen. 0.99

00:12:48.000 Shut your mouths. 0.99

00:12:50.000 Because now we're at the point where they're arresting journalists, they're arresting, well, they've been targeting journalists, that's the Obama era. 0.99

00:12:57.000 Around the same time, going after Rosen, Julian Assange, that's an informal assassination as far as I'm concerned.

00:13:04.000 Owen Schroyer.

00:13:06.000 Said bombastic things outside the Capitol.

00:13:08.000 And for that, they want to go to prison.

00:13:10.000 This is the next grain of sand.

00:13:12.000 They're going after lawyers.

00:13:13.000 They're going after political, uh, they're going after politicians.

00:13:16.000 It's not just Trump.

00:13:17.000 They removed Coy Griffin in New Mexico from the ballot.

00:13:20.000 This is well beyond the point.

00:13:22.000 We are, we are potentially a couple years away from the actual implementation of an indefinite detention act.

00:13:29.000 The Trump, and I hate the fact that this is so prescient now, but Trump said, they're not coming after you, or they're not coming after me, they're coming after you, I'm just in the way.

00:13:42.000 And I hate the fact that it looks like that's the case. 0.95

00:13:46.000 The idea that it's just Trump is something that I've been pushing back against with Democrats, specifically shit libs, for a long time because they think, oh, well, Donald Trump is different. 0.98

00:13:56.000 Donald Trump is different. 0.88

00:13:57.000 It's like the thing that's different is the behavior of the Democrats in the left.

00:14:02.000 The influence of authoritarianism in the United States on the left is undeniable.

00:14:09.000 And the fact that people have been ignoring it or just saying, no, no, it's not true, likely because they don't believe it's true because they have normal jobs and normal lives and they're not steeped in this stuff like people that do this stuff all the time.

00:14:21.000 But the fact of the matter is, The federal government has never been more authoritarian.

00:14:27.000 They're throwing people in jail in the way that they did during the Civil War and in the 20s.

00:14:35.000 Was it Wilson that threw people in jail?

00:14:37.000 FDR threw people in jail?

00:14:38.000 But it's back to the old authoritarian government.

00:14:42.000 And that's not acceptable.

00:14:44.000 And we've said this a bunch.

00:14:46.000 I don't see the off-ramp.

00:14:47.000 If this is accepted, What's going to be next?

00:14:51.000 Because it's not going to be, oh, we're going to chill out.

00:14:54.000 It would take someone in the Democratic Party in power standing up and saying, we can't do this.

00:14:59.000 And there is no one that even wants to.

00:15:02.000 They're all enjoying it.

00:15:03.000 I think it's going to come from us, to be honest.

00:15:05.000 That's scary.

00:15:07.000 But you know what?

00:15:07.000 Yeah, it is scary.

00:15:08.000 Nobody's coming to save you.

00:15:10.000 And you see this everywhere where authoritarianism just takes hold.

00:15:15.000 Everybody's like, well, we just need a savior.

00:15:17.000 And that's why you get that charismatic leader that comes in and destroys the country.

00:15:24.000 Maybe that charismatic leader that we need to save us is Trump, but I doubt it.

00:15:30.000 He was in power before and he did nothing for Julian Assange.

00:15:33.000 He did nothing for Edward Snowden.

00:15:36.000 He did nothing for Ross Ulbricht.

00:15:38.000 He's done nothing to change the situation that we're in now.

00:15:42.000 He had the opportunity.

00:15:43.000 Four years was plenty.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, but there's nobody else.

00:15:45.000 There is nobody else, I agree with you.

00:15:47.000 There's nobody else, and at this point it's Trump or nobody, but we can't expect that Trump is going to come save us.

00:15:53.000 We have to understand that it's going to come from us, and it's going to come from Americans.

00:15:58.000 Number one, understanding history, understanding where this is going, and then doing something about it, because they can't control us if we don't allow them to.

00:16:05.000 You were talking earlier about Venezuela.

00:16:07.000 Can you go ahead and relate some of the things that you were telling us about?

00:16:12.000 Because this is important now, because this is something that it's possible that we're gonna have to worry about.

00:16:18.000 We have got people that I really do want you to, but I want to say this first.

00:16:23.000 People that deny that there is a problem on the left, they need to go to urban areas and talk to the political activists, the people that are on the ground working With the communities, talk to them.

00:16:40.000 You go to Brooklyn, there's DSA everywhere, which is the Democratic Socialists of America, full of commies, full of communists, and they're at the point where they'll tell you about it. 0.50

00:16:52.000 So, if you don't mind, go ahead and relate some of the things.

00:16:54.000 And somehow, it's okay to be a communist in this country.

00:16:56.000 Like, you would never call yourself... Not according to me!

00:17:01.000 Let's start from the beginning.

00:17:03.000 It wasn't that long ago, people don't realize this, that Venezuela was a wealthy capitalist nation.

00:17:07.000 Absolutely.

00:17:08.000 So I wasn't born in Venezuela because my mom hightailed it back to the U.S.

00:17:12.000 to have me, but I was taken to Venezuela when I was nine days old, and I lived there back and forth between the U.S.

00:17:18.000 until I was 15.

00:17:21.000 However, my age old is how long this has been going on.

00:17:25.000 Not even.

00:17:26.000 Much less.

00:17:26.000 watched communism, socialism, enter into Venezuela.

00:17:30.000 Venezuela was one of the most prosperous nations in Latin America. Before Venezuela, it was Cuba, which was

00:17:36.000 of course destroyed by the same ideology. And there's no way to talk about Venezuela

00:17:40.000 without talking about Cuba, because Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba, trained Hugo Chavez

00:17:48.000 in Cuba on how to do this.

00:17:51.000 I think people just assume that it's easy to come into power and take over. And he did

00:17:57.000 it in very similar ways to Castro. So yeah, it starts very similarly, and it's this class

00:18:04.000 warfare. It starts with the, well, you're poor because that guy over there has your

00:18:09.000 money. That guy over there has your jobs and your opportunities. And you're poor because

00:18:15.000 of them. So you see the class warfare. And that's really where it started dawning on

00:18:21.000 me here in the US. Like, oh wait, I've seen this before. It's that. And then authoritarianisms

00:18:28.000 come in. And of course, your guns is the first thing they take.

00:18:33.000 You know, unfortunately, here in the U.S., we have started to lose a little bit of our gun freedoms.

00:18:39.000 And I understand that that's scary for some people, but... I disagree on that one.

00:18:43.000 It's actually not true.

00:18:44.000 What?

00:18:44.000 Gun rights have expanded rapidly and exponentially over the past two decades in ways that this country... It's been good.

00:18:54.000 Right, so, D.C.

00:18:55.000 versus Heller, the right for individuals to keep and bear arms outside of their home was 2008.

00:19:01.000 If you look at the issuance of gun permits, there was not a single state that would allow you to have a gun, for the most part, back in the 80s.

00:19:09.000 It was actually difficult to have guns.

00:19:11.000 Now, we did have a different culture where people had rifles and there was like gun clubs in schools, but in the past 20 years, the expansion of individual liberties and gun rights has been Exponential.

00:19:23.000 To the point where now I think half the country is constitutional carry.

00:19:27.000 Or, I'm sorry, it's probably safer to say open carry in more than half the country, which did not exist 20, 30 years ago.

00:19:35.000 What was it before that, when we didn't have to... You needed a permit, and they wouldn't give it to you.

00:19:40.000 When did we need a permit?

00:19:42.000 So, even with the Second Amendment, you still had, back in the day, let's go back to the frontier era in New York, they didn't allow you to have guns.

00:19:51.000 Second Amendment said you had the right to keep and bear arms, and it was in your house, basically.

00:19:54.000 And famously, you'll look at old westerns or whatever, the trope was, the American history was, you'd go into a town and they could order you to turn over your weapons.

00:20:05.000 Now we're in an era- and again, for the most part, people would carry guns because you're out in the middle of nowhere and no one can enforce anything anyway.

00:20:11.000 But we get into this modern era, you go back to the 1900s, we get the NFA, early 1900s, I think it was like the 20s, and they start expanding rapid control of firearms and making it harder and harder.

00:20:22.000 It's actually, if you look at the map, of the right to keep and bear arms without a permit, the government can't question you, started to emerge after the eighties.

00:20:31.000 So, we're actually doing really, really well.

00:20:33.000 That's amazing, but that's why they're going after the first amendment instead of the second one. 0.82

00:20:37.000 They are going after the second one.

00:20:38.000 Because you kind of need to get rid of the first one, too, in order to, you know, go after the second one, then.

00:20:43.000 Well, they're going after the second amendment, for sure.

00:20:46.000 They're never stopping, but they are losing.

00:20:49.000 And I think it's important for everyone to understand, I don't want to tell everybody, we won!

00:20:53.000 Hooray! 0.97

00:20:54.000 You know, stop fighting.

00:20:55.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:20:55.000 You got to be vigilant, but you pull up a map of... It used to be every state was basically a no-issue or may-issue.

00:21:05.000 You wanted a gun, you'd go to the police, you'd go to the government, say, can I get a permit?

00:21:08.000 They'd say, sure, and then they'd never give it to you.

00:21:11.000 Now, overwhelming, I think more than half this country is open carry, meaning if you're a resident, you can walk into a gun store, you do a federal background check, they hand you the gun, you can walk out holding it.

00:21:21.000 Some states like West Virginia, Texas now, I don't know how many states are constitutional carry, but a lot.

00:21:28.000 Texas is now.

00:21:29.000 Yeah, meaning you can walk in as a resident, you fill out your national incident check system, your NICS background check, and then they could jam you up for a few days, three days is the max.

00:21:41.000 But typically, you'll be cleared within five or ten minutes, and then you can actually

00:21:45.000 take the weapon and conceal it on your person and go walk around.

00:21:48.000 So those rights have been expanding rapidly, and I think it's important people know that

00:21:51.000 I think we're winning across the board, and what we're seeing with the expansion of these

00:21:56.000 extremist policies and the targeting of the likes of Owen Schroer and these lawyers is

00:22:00.000 that they're losing control.

00:22:01.000 Twenty-six states.

00:22:03.000 Are constitutional, Kerry?

00:22:04.000 That's what I thought, but it's crazy to think more than half the country allows you to just buy and carry a weapon.

00:22:12.000 I got my concealed carry permit like 2019, and then I just renewed it like yesterday, but I don't need it anymore.

00:22:20.000 They're constitutional carry now.

00:22:23.000 Right.

00:22:24.000 And they say, uh, you know, if West Virginia, for instance, if you get your concealed carry permit, you don't even get the background check per weapon anymore because the process by which you get your concealed carry permit is your background check.

00:22:38.000 And at that point, you're allowed to just freely purchase weapons.

00:22:41.000 Whereas if you don't have it, you have to get a background check every single time you buy it.

00:22:44.000 They're making guns out of graphene now.

00:22:45.000 Did you see that?

00:22:46.000 Oh, wow.

00:22:46.000 A little .22.

00:22:48.000 Super lightweight, apparently.

00:22:50.000 Yeah, so if you take a look at this image.

00:22:52.000 Right to carry in 1986.

00:22:54.000 And you can watch the progression.

00:22:57.000 This is awesome.

00:22:58.000 I mean, this is amazing.

00:22:59.000 May issue means they're not giving it to you.

00:23:01.000 No issue states.

00:23:02.000 Texas would not give you a permit for carrying a weapon.

00:23:06.000 In 2000, look at all these states.

00:23:08.000 Red states that are saying you can't carry.

00:23:10.000 This is crazy.

00:23:11.000 Blue is constitutional carry, is that right? 0.86

00:23:13.000 Blue is shall issue, meaning that if you apply for a permit, they have to give you one.

00:23:18.000 Unrestricted is constitutional carry.

00:23:20.000 Look at the expansion of constitutional carry in this country.

00:23:24.000 Here we go, 2019, 2020, 2021.

00:23:25.000 Look at this!

00:23:25.000 That's people saying they don't like ESG, basically.

00:23:32.000 Look at the 86.

00:23:34.000 You couldn't get a gun in these states.

00:23:35.000 All the yellow ones were may issue, meaning you'd apply, and they wouldn't give it to you.

00:23:39.000 If you were lucky, maybe.

00:23:40.000 That's crazy to think.

00:23:41.000 The ultimate defense, dude.

00:23:42.000 You arm your citizens.

00:23:43.000 You allow your citizens to arm themselves.

00:23:45.000 It's the ultimate.

00:23:46.000 It's state-organized.

00:23:47.000 This is the important thing to consider, the polarization and extremism that we're seeing.

00:23:51.000 We are seeing a rise of communists, of authoritarians, and they are getting increasingly desperate.

00:23:57.000 Despite the fact that we've been winning across the board on the issue of gun rights, they have been gaining control in institutions. 0.56

00:24:03.000 They have been subverting our children, our education system, our entertainment industry, and now they're in government.

00:24:10.000 And the likes of the Democratic Party have weaponized the DOJ to try and go after anyone that opposes them.

00:24:17.000 But I think they're gonna lose.

00:24:19.000 I think they're gonna lose, and this should say it right to everybody's face.

00:24:23.000 Look, man.

00:24:24.000 They have their victories.

00:24:27.000 Conflict is never without your losses and your wins, but I think we're winning.

00:24:32.000 And everything they're doing is panic and fear.

00:24:34.000 But if at any point we stop and sit back and think it's over, they win it.

00:24:38.000 They win it.

00:24:38.000 Yeah, we're in the middle of a global revolution of consciousness.

00:24:41.000 Like, it is the New World Order is forming.

00:24:43.000 We have no time to waste.

00:24:44.000 There's no reason to stop, to keep pushing.

00:24:46.000 We need to change and create the world in the image of the United States Constitution, in my opinion.

00:24:51.000 This is our one option.

00:24:52.000 I have a problem with the idea of us needing to do stuff for the rest of the world.

00:24:58.000 That's very authoritarian and it's very neocon and very Stuff that we got ourselves into a lot of trouble in Iraq and Afghanistan and all other place a whole bunch other places trying to do it is not America's job to make the rest of the world like America and that's part of why like Nationalism should not be a dirty word like You shouldn't be like jingoistic and be like I want to export war for my country But you should be like it's okay to

00:25:28.000 For there to be countries with different laws and I don't think that it's a good idea to just because we believe that America has like The best system we can believe that but that doesn't mean that other people in other countries would agree And I think that's what happened in Iraq. 0.91

00:25:45.000 We went in there and we're like, we're gonna deliver democracy!

00:25:47.000 But the Iraqi people, the population that you're giving this new government or new structure to, has to be willing to accept it and want to do it.

00:25:56.000 If America falls to an authoritarian government, it will be because the American people have said, we accept this.

00:26:05.000 It'll be because Democrats have said, we're gonna vote for the government to have this kind of power.

00:26:11.000 I want everyone to look at this map real quick.

00:26:14.000 This is the, uh, finalized map of the country and, uh, your guns.

00:26:20.000 Where it's green, you do not need a permit to carry concealed.

00:26:25.000 That's crazy.

00:26:25.000 Do you just walk into a gun shop and buy it off the shelf, put it in your pocket, and walk out?

00:26:29.000 If you're a resident, you still have to go through a federal background check.

00:26:32.000 You can then take the weapon after being cleared.

00:26:35.000 Put it in your belt or your holster, cover it up, and walk on out.

00:26:38.000 You don't need a permit.

00:26:39.000 Where it's blue, you do need a permit, but no longer do we have the may issue or no issue states.

00:26:47.000 It used to be, and this ruling just dropped, what was the ruling?

00:26:52.000 Which one?

00:26:52.000 I remember when it happened, but I don't remember what it's called.

00:26:54.000 Supreme Court ruled you have to give a permit to carry if you have a permit.

00:26:58.000 I remember what happened but I don't remember what it's called.

00:27:00.000 Maryland for instance and New Jersey were considered no issue.

00:27:04.000 They call themselves a may issue, you apply for a permit and they claim everyone can get

00:27:09.000 a gun but then in Maryland and New Jersey and parts of California you'd say okay I'd

00:27:16.000 They'd say, what do you need it for?

00:27:17.000 And you'd have to give them a reason they approve of.

00:27:20.000 And they never approve.

00:27:22.000 Hold on.

00:27:22.000 If you're rich, they approve.

00:27:24.000 Yep.

00:27:25.000 Rich people... It's a class issue.

00:27:26.000 Oh, hands down.

00:27:27.000 Rich people and celebrities would go in and say, I need a gun.

00:27:31.000 Say, why?

00:27:32.000 And they would say, I'm worth millions of dollars and I'm concerned for my safety.

00:27:36.000 Oh, right away, sir.

00:27:37.000 Right away.

00:27:38.000 And you get your permit.

00:27:40.000 Regular working class person says, you know, look, I want to keep my family safe.

00:27:43.000 They say, How dare you come in here?

00:27:45.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:27:46.000 And the cops with a smile on their face will arrest you if you try to defend yourself under Second Amendment rights.

00:27:51.000 It seems like the legal system is class warfare at its finest because any rich person can buy their way out of jail.

00:27:57.000 I don't think it's just being rich.

00:27:58.000 Trump is rich.

00:28:00.000 It's not just the money.

00:28:02.000 It's who you are.

00:28:03.000 It's who you know.

00:28:04.000 Right.

00:28:04.000 Connections.

00:28:05.000 But money plays a big role.

00:28:07.000 For example, in Wrigleyville in Chicago, everybody knows this.

00:28:11.000 It's like, I don't know what the current ticket is.

00:28:13.000 It used to be 50 bucks if you parked illegally.

00:28:16.000 And you know what that means?

00:28:17.000 It means if you want to park to go to see a baseball game, it's 50 bucks.

00:28:21.000 Street parking, 50 bucks.

00:28:22.000 Exactly.

00:28:23.000 Because it's so hard to find parking, people would park, double park, park in front of fire hydrants and be like, I don't care.

00:28:28.000 I'll take the $50 ticket.

00:28:30.000 Otherwise I'm not getting parking.

00:28:31.000 The only problem with that is if they're going to go ahead and tell you.

00:28:34.000 If you're in a place they don't tell you?

00:28:36.000 Where?

00:28:38.000 I almost never saw anybody get towed because there's too many cars illegally parked.

00:28:42.000 Ah, okay.

00:28:43.000 Yeah, civil disobedience.

00:28:44.000 There are some tow companies that'd be like, alright boys, let's start pulling them in because we're about to make money.

00:28:49.000 But for the most part, it was normal that everyone did it.

00:28:53.000 However, one time someone double parked in front of my apartment where my friend's car was, and we ain't playing no games.

00:29:01.000 We needed to use the car!

00:29:02.000 And so it's just like, no, I don't care.

00:29:06.000 I wanted to finish off what we were talking about, Phil, earlier, a few minutes ago, that spreading American exceptionalism around Earth.

00:29:11.000 Because I used to be kind of ambivalent about it.

00:29:14.000 Then the wars over in the Middle East happened.

00:29:16.000 I'm like, no, I'm done.

00:29:17.000 Go back to isolation.

00:29:18.000 We do not need to be involved.

00:29:19.000 Head in the sand.

00:29:20.000 Forget about it.

00:29:21.000 Focus on me. 1.00

00:29:22.000 And then shit just went haywire. 1.00

00:29:23.000 The whole globe just started to take the United States over. 1.00

00:29:26.000 Culture war, international deceit, using the internet, twisting people, deepfakes, messing with your politicians.

00:29:33.000 We do need to be involved with auditing and editing the world's police force and the world's governance.

00:29:38.000 I don't want to do it by force of military.

00:29:41.000 That obviously failed in the Middle East.

00:29:42.000 I think that almost always, not always, it doesn't always fail.

00:29:44.000 You can conquer, and 80 years later, if you're willing to face the attrition, those will be your people.

00:29:49.000 But it takes generations for that to happen, and we're not really in a world with everything happening so quick.

00:29:55.000 World War II kind of put an end to that stuff.

00:29:57.000 Of colonization?

00:29:58.000 Yeah, because the thing is, once you industrialize war and make it possible to annihilate entire cities, the idea of using force and war to conquer territory kind of stops being acceptable.

00:30:11.000 And that's part of the reason why there's been proxy wars and small wars since World War II, but we've managed to avoid a global world war, because there has been the The effort by the West to prevent other countries from having nuclear weapons, which we talked about the other night, um, you know, to, to prevent the, the, uh, what's the word they use?

00:30:35.000 Anyways, other countries from getting nuclear weapons.

00:30:37.000 Yeah.

00:30:38.000 Thank you.

00:30:38.000 Proliferation.

00:30:39.000 Um, but the point is, uh, they, I'm sorry, I lost it.

00:30:44.000 Go ahead.

00:30:44.000 Well, you're saying that it's hard to conquer and amalgamate the population with total war tactics these days.

00:30:50.000 Yeah, it's too dangerous.

00:30:51.000 I'm open to hearing what you guys think about... I mean, you do kind of have to force the... I'm forcing this conversation right now, in a sense.

00:30:58.000 It's not war-like.

00:31:00.000 Good ideas don't require force.

00:31:01.000 But for me to even come up here and sit down and put a camera on and like force myself to be in this situation, I could easily be playing video games alone in my room in a studio apartment in the middle of the city.

00:31:09.000 People copy what they see that they like.

00:31:12.000 And you know what?

00:31:12.000 That's why the United States was the United States and everywhere else.

00:31:15.000 Like when I lived in Venezuela, everything the United States did was awesome.

00:31:20.000 And everybody wanted to be like the United States.

00:31:22.000 Maybe they didn't say it outright.

00:31:23.000 I mean, we talked about it a whole lot in Venezuela.

00:31:26.000 It's like, oh, did you buy that in the US?

00:31:28.000 It's special because you got it in the US.

00:31:29.000 Like, you know, people want to copy what is good.

00:31:33.000 And so if we were that country that we were supposed to be, people would be copying us.

00:31:37.000 Unfortunately, that's not us anymore.

00:31:39.000 And that was back in the 90s when people were like, it's US, I love it, I love it.

00:31:43.000 Because from the 50s all the way through, I mean, blue jeans, people say that the thing that took the Soviet Union out was blue jeans.

00:31:51.000 So we were just as corrupt.

00:31:53.000 Our country was just as corrupt in the 90s, but people didn't know.

00:31:55.000 So they still worshipped the United States and were willing to take on its ideals.

00:31:58.000 I didn't know.

00:31:59.000 I lived in Venezuela and I was like, wow, this is corrupt. 1.00

00:32:02.000 That country over there, America, they're so great.

00:32:06.000 It's not corrupt.

00:32:07.000 And then I get here and I'm like, oh.

00:32:09.000 Boy, was I wrong.

00:32:10.000 It's almost a justification to hide our corruption from the world.

00:32:13.000 We do corruption so well, though.

00:32:15.000 I mean, we do.

00:32:16.000 And to be fair, as far as corruption goes, the United States is exceptional, right?

00:32:22.000 And other countries are really bad.

00:32:25.000 Their local police is awesome.

00:32:27.000 Yeah, there are countries where if you get pulled over, you're not getting a ticket, you're handing them a hundred bucks, or you're going to jail.

00:32:33.000 That's it.

00:32:34.000 There's one or the other.

00:32:35.000 In Venezuela it was alcohol, though.

00:32:37.000 I want to jump to the story as we talk about the love for America.

00:32:40.000 From Markah.com, Trump supporters unveil massive Trump or death banner as a flag at Yankees game.

00:32:47.000 Take a look at this image.

00:32:48.000 1776 2024 Trump or death.

00:32:50.000 You know, that kind of freaks me out.

00:32:55.000 It's like, if Trump doesn't get elected, what are they saying?

00:32:58.000 Are they saying, give me liberty or give me death, except it's Trump instead of liberty?

00:33:01.000 No, I don't know, that's the slogan of Cuba right there.

00:33:04.000 Are they saying that if Trump isn't elected, it will be death?

00:33:08.000 What is the slogan of Cuba?

00:33:09.000 Patria o muerte.

00:33:10.000 Patriot, uh, your country or death. 0.76

00:33:13.000 That's, that's the slogan.

00:33:14.000 That's a Cuban slogan right there, which is why that song went viral.

00:33:18.000 Patriot, like your country or death. 0.99

00:33:20.000 That's the slogan.

00:33:21.000 What's like, what's the direct literal translation?

00:33:24.000 It's Patriot?

00:33:26.000 Patriot is your homeland.

00:33:27.000 Homeland.

00:33:28.000 Homeland or death.

00:33:29.000 Wow.

00:33:30.000 Yeah, was it Thomas Henry, give me liberty or give me death?

00:33:33.000 That's the whole like, give me exactly what I want or I'll die.

00:33:37.000 No, no, no, no, no, that's not what he's saying.

00:33:39.000 He's saying leave me alone or I will fight you.

00:33:44.000 That's what's being implied.

00:33:45.000 Liberty, the freedom to do what I want, or I will fight for that liberty.

00:33:51.000 And that means I will fight to the death for that liberty.

00:33:53.000 As opposed to give me X or die.

00:33:56.000 It's not give me liberty or give me death.

00:33:59.000 It's leave me alone.

00:34:00.000 You have two choices. 1.00

00:34:01.000 Either you're going to give me my liberty or you're going to have to kill me. 0.95

00:34:05.000 But giving liberty is basically leave me alone. 0.78

00:34:07.000 It's not give me Donald Trump.

00:34:08.000 It's not give me a result.

00:34:09.000 It's stay off my lawn.

00:34:10.000 So liberty is a negative, right?

00:34:13.000 So you don't need to be given a thing or you don't need someone else to act on your behalf.

00:34:19.000 It's not a positive action to have liberty, right?

00:34:23.000 So give me liberty is leave me alone.

00:34:26.000 Don't take a positive action against me.

00:34:29.000 But in Cuba, it's like worship the homeland or Yeah, that was Fidel's slogan.

00:34:36.000 That's what they came into Cuba with, was Padre Muerte.

00:34:39.000 So yeah, when I saw that flag, I was like, whoa, that's authoritarian AF.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, man.

00:34:46.000 You mentioned the charismatic guy that comes in and destroys the world.

00:34:50.000 I feel like Obama did it, and then Trump just kept going with it.

00:34:53.000 Well, we all thought Obama was going to be our savior, right?

00:34:56.000 I mean, that was the big thing.

00:34:57.000 I didn't.

00:34:58.000 I'm sure nobody at this table did.

00:34:59.000 I didn't think so.

00:35:00.000 I felt like that.

00:35:01.000 Yeah, and it was like, you know, he's this great guy, he looks good on camera, the man can dress, you know, and he says all the right things.

00:35:12.000 And then, you know, drops a few bums on kids and American citizens and, you know, it's just... I don't know.

00:35:20.000 It's scary to watch.

00:35:22.000 It's scary to watch and pay attention.

00:35:23.000 Obama is more likely to be the charismatic...

00:35:27.000 If someone were to come to me and said, do you think that the charismatic leader who leads the world to destruction is around today, I'd be like, it's possible.

00:35:36.000 If you came to me and said you thought it was either Trump or Obama, I'd be like, oh there's no question it's not Trump.

00:35:41.000 The dude certainly has charisma.

00:35:43.000 But he also has serious issues with half the country and a lot of people really don't like him.

00:35:49.000 He's not... He's... He's... Yeah, no.

00:35:53.000 They're forcing us to like him.

00:35:54.000 Obama is the famous silver tongue, you know, world leader.

00:36:01.000 I don't know if I'd say awful, but Trump was like a movie star.

00:36:07.000 He was a TV star.

00:36:08.000 Like a character actor.

00:36:09.000 Telling jokes, being like, you're fired!

00:36:11.000 With a smile. 0.66

00:36:12.000 Calling Rosie O'Donnell fat.

00:36:14.000 Like, just a charismatic.

00:36:16.000 But you can be charismatic and cruel, or charismatic and say mean things that upset people charismatically.

00:36:22.000 And he did that, so half the people loved him.

00:36:23.000 But my point is simply, if it came down to who do you think, out of the two, is more likely to be the charismatic leader who leads the world to ruin, it's Obama.

00:36:30.000 I felt like it was a package.

00:36:32.000 It was 2008 to 2020, we had this mess of celebrity in charge that just made it about who can smack talk better.

00:36:40.000 And it got hotter the longer it went on.

00:36:43.000 I think that's probably just an artifact of...

00:36:47.000 This is your generation.

00:36:48.000 But it never happened before.

00:36:49.000 Because Ronald Reagan was a movie star.

00:36:51.000 But he didn't act like that.

00:36:52.000 He wasn't, like, cool.

00:36:53.000 I was literally watching a documentary earlier.

00:36:53.000 He did.

00:36:55.000 It's hilarious, by the way.

00:36:57.000 And I forgot what it's called, but it's, like, how my dad got radicalized from a Democrat to far-right because of Rush Limbaugh.

00:37:03.000 And it was really hilarious watching this thing because it's mirror reality.

00:37:07.000 I mean, they got the guy from Media Matters.

00:37:08.000 And Media Matters just posts, like, insane lies all the time and conspiracy theories.

00:37:12.000 And I'm like, to act like you're not in the cult and you're listening to this guy?

00:37:16.000 But, uh, in it, they're talking about Ronald Reagan, they're talking about Richard Nixon, they're talking about the fast, quick one-liners, and demagoguery, and celebrity, and building cults of personality, and I'm like, oh, this is really fun.

00:37:29.000 Yeah, they did it with Clinton.

00:37:30.000 They played the saxophone on Arsenio Hall or something.

00:37:33.000 No, on MTV, man.

00:37:34.000 This documentary is about Rush Limbaugh.

00:37:35.000 This is about, like, You know, the 90s and the 2000s.

00:37:39.000 This is not about even Trump.

00:37:40.000 They've been saying the same thing over and over again.

00:37:42.000 They said Bush was Hitler.

00:37:44.000 Every Republican is Hitler.

00:37:45.000 It's the same game they play every single time.

00:37:48.000 The difference is social media, because if Reagan wasn't able to get his word out without

00:37:52.000 the networks going on to like, you know, David Letterman or something so that it was all

00:37:56.000 network approved, but Trump bypasses the FCC and goes straight to the mouth with like Twitter

00:38:02.000 and it just upended the entire like any kind of normalcy or like things you don't...

00:38:06.000 Control. 0.96

00:38:07.000 Like you don't go on national television and call someone a fat pig when you're the president. 0.95

00:38:11.000 Use that pulpit and that power and that authority to demean someone's physical appearance. 0.96

00:38:16.000 It's like, what in the hell did he just do to the essence of the United States presidency?

00:38:20.000 That was a terrible misuse of power in my opinion.

00:38:23.000 I mean, I don't think that Obama was really I don't think that Trump was really significantly worse than other presidents.

00:38:34.000 Significantly better?

00:38:35.000 Yeah, well when it comes to rhetoric and stuff like that.

00:38:37.000 Foreign policy.

00:38:38.000 People act like the rhetoric that he had was so bad, and I agree with you about foreign policy.

00:38:44.000 But I don't think that he was a little more direct in the way that he spoke.

00:38:52.000 But he wasn't, and maybe other presidents were, they were a little more, they had a little more finesse, but the thing that people liked about Trump was that he was just saying it like it is, right?

00:39:04.000 Like he was an authentic guy.

00:39:05.000 He was BSing people, but it was not, it didn't seem like it was canned or written by a speechwriter, and that people related to that.

00:39:13.000 He's honest where it matters.

00:39:14.000 Yeah.

00:39:15.000 He's like, we're gonna keep soldiers in Syria for the oil. 0.62

00:39:18.000 We gotta keep the oil, we're doing really well.

00:39:20.000 It's like, wow.

00:39:21.000 Say we're gonna sell weapons to Saudi Arabia, and we're like, okay, alright.

00:39:25.000 And then he would be like, my hair is real, and I'm the best, and everyone loves me, and you're like, okay, Trump.

00:39:31.000 It's like, he lies a lot, but the things he lies about, I don't care about.

00:39:35.000 How many people were at his inauguration?

00:39:38.000 Yeah, exactly, how many people were there?

00:39:39.000 Oh, the biggest, the biggest you've ever seen.

00:39:41.000 It's like, we know it wasn't, but fine, whatever dude.

00:39:43.000 Look, if Donald Trump is sitting there, and he's like, He's in his room saying, oh, there's a million people here right now watching, watching me sign these peace agreements in the Middle East.

00:39:54.000 I'm like, that's right.

00:39:55.000 They're all watching and waiting for you to sign those peace agreements.

00:39:57.000 Please sign them. 1.00

00:39:58.000 I don't care if Trump wants to lie about the size of inauguration or the women he's been with and all this weird, stupid, nonsense, cultural crap. 1.00

00:40:07.000 I care that we got the Abraham Accords. 1.00

00:40:08.000 I care that the economy was doing well.

00:40:10.000 I care that he took tremendous efforts to try and bring peace to parts of the world, like in North Korea.

00:40:16.000 And they attack him for it.

00:40:17.000 And that one deeply offends me, and I love saying it.

00:40:19.000 Trump crossed the demilitarized zone into enemy territory with no security detail.

00:40:27.000 Nah, you can F off.

00:40:28.000 Anybody who's like, Trump's pulling up to dictators, I'm like, oh, okay.

00:40:31.000 Yeah, nice try, dude.

00:40:32.000 That's not gonna fly.

00:40:34.000 They could have captured the president, right there on the spot, and made demands.

00:40:38.000 I mean, they wouldn't.

00:40:39.000 Trump was right. 0.50

00:40:40.000 He knew the move to be made.

00:40:42.000 But it was a tremendous sign of good faith.

00:40:44.000 Trump can tell me that his house is made of cheese and graham crackers and sugar and candy canes, and he can look me square in the eyes and lie.

00:40:53.000 He can tell me that his toilet is made of solid gold, and I'll say, whatever you say, dude.

00:40:59.000 Keep working on those peace agreements, and I'm satisfied.

00:41:02.000 Just be like, are you sure it's solid?

00:41:04.000 Isn't it just a plating?

00:41:05.000 You're right, you're absolutely right!

00:41:06.000 I think it's plating!

00:41:07.000 It's like Zoolander.

00:41:08.000 When Zoolander looks at the, you know, what is the institute for kids who can't read good or whatever?

00:41:13.000 And he's like, how are we going to teach them to read if they can't fit in the building?

00:41:17.000 And then Mugatu is like, he's absolutely right!

00:41:20.000 I'm saying, if Trump wants me to believe that he had the biggest inauguration or any other nonsense like that and he keeps saying it, I'm just gonna be like, Yes, you are completely correct, sir.

00:41:31.000 And all of those people at your migration are cheering for you as you sign the Abraham Accords and try and bring peace to the Middle East.

00:41:37.000 I was thinking the other night, like, who was the best president of my lifetime?

00:41:40.000 That comes up a lot on the show.

00:41:41.000 Trump.

00:41:42.000 And I was like, well, there's two ways to answer the question.

00:41:44.000 One is with retrospect.

00:41:45.000 The other one is, at that point in my life, who was it?

00:41:47.000 Thinking of, like, in this moment, who was the best?

00:41:50.000 It was Bill Clinton.

00:41:51.000 Because in the late 90s, or in the early-mid 90s, he was able to rally and, like, make the United States seem like the greatest country on Earth.

00:41:58.000 For all of us.

00:41:59.000 It felt like- It felt like that.

00:42:00.000 It felt like we ended the Cold War and it was finally- we've solved war.

00:42:03.000 It felt like it was really done. 0.99

00:42:04.000 And then you find out later they're part of a military war machine and I don't know what happened in Bosnia and shit. 0.97

00:42:09.000 Like he was- Trump's the best president of my life. 0.99

00:42:12.000 He's just so divisive.

00:42:13.000 That's why I don't pick him.

00:42:15.000 I disagree.

00:42:15.000 I blame the corrupt uniparty establishment.

00:42:18.000 Trump was a massive celebrity, loved by everybody.

00:42:20.000 Barack Obama said the American dream was to beat Trump, but Trump was an outsider who wanted to do things like bring back manufacturing, secure our borders, and the TPP.

00:42:28.000 I gotta tell you, when he crushed the TPP, that's probably one of the biggest moments where the knives came out.

00:42:34.000 And then they did everything in their power to make everybody hate Trump.

00:42:37.000 And I'm like, everybody loved the guy.

00:42:39.000 He was in home alone.

00:42:41.000 I'm gonna say it again, Barack Obama said the American dream is to be Donald Trump.

00:42:44.000 That was the idea before he decided to run for president, and they came after him.

00:42:48.000 And even the people who- there are certain celebrities who are like, oh, I've been good friends with the Trump family, they're all very, very nice. 0.96

00:42:54.000 But Trump's a fascist, and I'm like, oh, get- get out of here with that.

00:42:57.000 Look, it is not- it is not hard to say that Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime, because who am I comparing him to? 0.98

00:43:04.000 Bill Clinton?

00:43:05.000 No, please.

00:43:07.000 George Bush was my least favorite.

00:43:09.000 So in my lifetime, I've had H.W.

00:43:11.000 Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, and Trump.

00:43:16.000 And certainly you can compliment some of these presidents for some things, but come on.

00:43:21.000 H.W.

00:43:22.000 Bush?

00:43:23.000 Oh, please, dude.

00:43:26.000 What did he say?

00:43:27.000 We're beginning to see the makings of a new world order, and all of that neocon garbage and Desert Storm and everything they tried to do. 0.98

00:43:34.000 You get Bill Clinton, and don't get me wrong, there is some good economic stuff, but there's a whole lot of stuff wrong with Bill Clinton's presidency.

00:43:42.000 And I have to say, for the most part, When it comes to those two presidents, in my lifetime, there was nothing in my life that they did that mattered.

00:43:53.000 And so, the most I can say is, Bill Clinton's got all the scandals.

00:43:58.000 I mean, you know, Monica Lindsey.

00:43:59.000 What scandal? 1.00

00:44:00.000 Oh my god, that was like the stupidest scandal of all time. 1.00

00:44:03.000 Oh no, right. 1.00

00:44:03.000 I'm saying, in terms- Oh my god, a famous man who had sex outside of marriage. 1.00

00:44:07.000 Like, wow!

00:44:08.000 I am shocked!

00:44:10.000 But in terms of what mattered to me, H.W.

00:44:14.000 Bush was bad with war.

00:44:16.000 With Clinton, we certainly had a great degree of conflict.

00:44:20.000 With George W. Bush, we got the worst of it in my lifetime.

00:44:22.000 With Iraq and Afghanistan, the expansion of conflict in the Middle East.

00:44:25.000 Barack Obama's extrajudicial assassinations of American citizens.

00:44:29.000 And then we get Trump.

00:44:30.000 And for everything I can't say about the Clinton years, because I was too little, I can say, no new wars, Abraham Accords, peace agreements in Europe, getting people to commit to paying their fair share with NATO, working on peace agreements with North Korea, securing our borders, bringing back manufacturing, there's no question.

00:44:48.000 It's just, it really is an easy answer.

00:44:52.000 Man, I don't want to repeat myself too much, but I believe one of the president's main jobs is to unify the states.

00:44:58.000 You know, preside over the United States and keep them united.

00:45:02.000 And if a president comes in and tells half the country that they're not part of the group... Who said that?

00:45:10.000 Maybe it's the Libertarian in me.

00:45:12.000 I'm sorry, I can't tell you which is my favorite president because I don't have one because all of them have done some terrible things.

00:45:20.000 And I think they should pretty much all be kind of charged.

00:45:25.000 I mean, there's grounds.

00:45:26.000 I mean, now you know Clinton was on Epstein's plane.

00:45:28.000 Oh, there's a lot about Clinton.

00:45:31.000 Yeah, so it's hard for me sitting here, because it's like, yeah, Obama looked great when he was wearing his suits and bombing people across the world.

00:45:39.000 It's really hard.

00:45:40.000 And also, the United States, if you look at it that way, where we need some leader, would be the largest corporation on the planet.

00:45:47.000 And I just can't imagine that anybody who's running for office, even Donald Trump, who's, I'm sure, a great business person, however, I just can't envision anybody being able to actually manage a corporation with 330 million people and trillions of dollars.

00:46:04.000 Bureaucracy, too.

00:46:05.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I love the United States.

00:46:08.000 I think this country is an amazing place and I think we should go back to that freedom that allowed us to be that amazing place.

00:46:16.000 I do not believe that there is somebody in Washington writing down, you know, some magic scroll that will somehow protect us or do something You know, we just need our freedom.

00:46:26.000 To get to that point, you mentioned like going back to what was good, but we're going to

00:46:30.000 go forward to a new envisioning of what was good or what is good.

00:46:33.000 How would you define that?

00:46:34.000 Yeah, I think we need a new vision for it, but we should go back to the Constitution.

00:46:39.000 I mean, I just don't think that we need this level of micromanagement.

00:46:43.000 And I think with technology today, we could really achieve it without necessarily having this.

00:46:47.000 I mean, what does your local government do?

00:46:50.000 And I ran for a seat in a local government in Miami-Dade County.

00:46:55.000 We have 3 million people and a $10.3 billion budget that was billion with a B. That is larger than nations.

00:47:03.000 That's larger than El Salvador that has You know, same amount of people and a six billion dollar budget.

00:47:09.000 What do those local people do?

00:47:11.000 What exactly are they achieving for you?

00:47:12.000 Do we have transportation in Miami-Dade County?

00:47:14.000 We do not.

00:47:16.000 Nothing worthwhile.

00:47:17.000 I mean, it's terrible.

00:47:18.000 Do they run anything well?

00:47:19.000 No, they don't.

00:47:21.000 And so, what are you getting for all of these taxes that you're giving up?

00:47:24.000 What are we doing here?

00:47:25.000 And I just, I'm sorry, I don't see it.

00:47:27.000 I think that we really need to think this through.

00:47:30.000 We've been giving up our freedoms more and more and more each day.

00:47:33.000 For what?

00:47:35.000 I mean, are you getting your money's worth?

00:47:37.000 I don't know where the money's going.

00:47:41.000 I can tell you on the local level.

00:47:43.000 Miami-Dade County, we pay for all sorts of things that you would probably just be flabbergasted if you looked at our budget.

00:47:51.000 Like what?

00:47:52.000 Oh, okay.

00:47:53.000 So for example, I don't know what the budget is right now for, you know, the homeless.

00:47:56.000 And I think that's something that everybody, you know, I want people to have a home.

00:48:01.000 I want people to be well.

00:48:02.000 I don't want them to be out on the streets and living horrible lives.

00:48:05.000 So our budget is over $45 million a year.

00:48:09.000 Do the number of homeless ever change?

00:48:11.000 No.

00:48:11.000 Do we still have homeless?

00:48:12.000 Yes.

00:48:13.000 That's a cultural problem.

00:48:14.000 Absolutely.

00:48:15.000 And we can't solve that with money.

00:48:16.000 We can't solve it with money.

00:48:17.000 I think there's people that do not want to live in this society.

00:48:21.000 And I don't think you're going to just throw money at it and solve that problem.

00:48:25.000 So the number of homeless we have, I think, generally is around 3,000.

00:48:29.000 And so when you divide the amount of money we have, you know, by the people that are unhoused, you come up with some crazy number.

00:48:38.000 You could Afford apartments for these people.

00:48:40.000 Like, what are we doing with that money?

00:48:41.000 Paying administrators that maintain their jobs.

00:48:44.000 Bureaucracy.

00:48:45.000 People who are homeless aren't homeless because they can't afford houses.

00:48:48.000 Then why are we paying $45 million out of Miami-Dade County people who pay their taxes?

00:48:54.000 Why is somebody losing their home?

00:48:57.000 Because that's what happens.

00:48:58.000 If you can't afford to pay your property taxes, you will lose your home.

00:49:01.000 The government will take away your home and put it on the auction and sell it.

00:49:05.000 That is one of the most offensive things that I can think of.

00:49:08.000 Property tax is disgusting.

00:49:10.000 Once you own a piece of property, you buy it, you shouldn't have to rent it from the government.

00:49:15.000 And it's obscene amounts of money.

00:49:15.000 That is insane.

00:49:17.000 Obscene amounts of money.

00:49:19.000 And so, you're paying this money every single year.

00:49:22.000 You can't opt out of it.

00:49:23.000 You can't say, you know what?

00:49:24.000 I'm not using any of your systems.

00:49:25.000 I don't use public transportation.

00:49:27.000 I'm not homeless.

00:49:29.000 How can I opt out?

00:49:30.000 I can't.

00:49:30.000 So if I can't afford to maintain my house, the government will take it from me.

00:49:34.000 And so I'm paying for all these services, and it's just wrong.

00:49:41.000 So people will pay for homeless people through taxes, and then if they can't afford their own home, the government will take their home away from them because they spent their house money on other people's homelessness.

00:49:51.000 That's why I decided to run in the first place.

00:49:52.000 I lived in my grandfather's house when I couldn't afford, you know, when I had a child at 21 and I couldn't afford to live, you know, like, and I moved in with my grandfather and he was like, hey, can you take care of the bills?

00:50:02.000 And, you know, you can live here for free.

00:50:04.000 And I realized property taxes, my grandfather couldn't pay for it.

00:50:07.000 He would have been out on the street.

00:50:08.000 And that's generally who is affected the most.

00:50:11.000 It's the elderly, it is people who have some type of disability, it is somebody who's going through hard times, medical, you know, medical difficulties.

00:50:18.000 They lose their homes because they couldn't pay for all the wish lists that the government, those people who you elect, you know, that sit there and are just like, you know, they don't take public transportation, they don't, they have security provided by government, provided by the police, they have all these things and they Make these decisions for you, and if you don't comply, you will lose your home.

00:50:39.000 Michael Schellenberger... One potential solution would be to, uh, we could install lights in the palms of everyone's hands, and as they get closer to turning 30, the light begins to turn red, and then when they turn 30, it flashes red, where we then take them and excise them from society.

00:50:54.000 Wow.

00:50:55.000 That's how we can handle, uh, in the future.

00:50:57.000 Of course, we may have to deal with people who try to flee and don't want to, uh, undergo... What was it called?

00:51:03.000 I got the darkest...

00:51:05.000 It's Logan's Run, but it's from the movie Logan's Run.

00:51:07.000 They called it something though, like, I forgot what it's called.

00:51:09.000 I don't remember.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, like, when you turn 30, they called it something.

00:51:12.000 Like, the light on your hand flashes, and then, like, they kill you.

00:51:15.000 I think it's, well, if that was the case, I'm sorry, guys.

00:51:18.000 I mean, everybody in this room, right?

00:51:18.000 Bye.

00:51:21.000 Oh, I'm well over.

00:51:22.000 I'm well over 30.

00:51:26.000 The homelessness crisis, the homelessness crisis is insane.

00:51:29.000 The way that it's been handled and talked about is very insane.

00:51:31.000 Michael Schellenberger works out of California, and he really exposed... Carousel.

00:51:36.000 Is that what it was called?

00:51:37.000 The carousel?

00:51:38.000 Yeah, they called it carousel.

00:51:39.000 I think it was Schellenberger that exposed the, basically, the homelessness, the homeless industry, industrial complex.

00:51:45.000 It's an industry, absolutely.

00:51:46.000 And they receive money every year to fix it, but instead of actually getting homeless people homes, they just pay the administrators, the bureaucracy, to maintain the status quo.

00:51:54.000 You still have the same people who are still homeless, and they keep making every year.

00:51:58.000 You want the kicker?

00:51:59.000 I'm sorry I'm talking about Miami-Dade.

00:52:00.000 It's what I know, so pardon me.

00:52:03.000 But in Miami-Dade County, the person who runs the Homeless Trust, who has all this money, is Ron Book, who is the largest What would this be?

00:52:12.000 Lobbyist for government.

00:52:14.000 So I mean that's I guess his reward is he gets to run this thing and you know he's been doing it for I want to say about 20 years.

00:52:22.000 You said that there's the same amount of homeless people every year?

00:52:24.000 Are they new people?

00:52:25.000 Like are the people getting off the street and the new people are arriving or is it just tough to tell?

00:52:28.000 You look at a number it's 3,000 but I mean everybody so where I live there's not a whole lot of homeless because they generally live in downtown where you know they have more access to bathrooms and whatnot so it's hard to tell but we generally you kind of know who you know the homeless guy is everybody knows the guy on the corner like You know, and he's always there.

00:52:48.000 And they come around and they sweep every now and then and remove him and, you know, throw out all his stuff, his few possessions, and it's so sad.

00:52:56.000 It's the saddest thing, honestly.

00:52:58.000 Do they hit him with fire hoses in the morning?

00:53:00.000 No, not in Miami.

00:53:00.000 They do that in San Francisco.

00:53:02.000 No, we're not that cruel.

00:53:03.000 We're not there yet.

00:53:04.000 You know, give it a few... 4 a.m.

00:53:05.000 they just come in and there's video of it.

00:53:08.000 It got awful, honestly.

00:53:10.000 You look like you're about to jump on an idea.

00:53:10.000 Were you going to say something, Phil?

00:53:12.000 Not particularly, no.

00:53:14.000 I do want to talk about this story, though.

00:53:16.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's not going to be Donald Trump, nor will it be Joe Biden.

00:53:21.000 The man who will save this world is Elon Musk.

00:53:26.000 I'm being facetious, that's kind of the joke, but I'm also only half-joking.

00:53:30.000 Aside from Elon challenging the narrative machine of the ADL, calling out corrupt politicians, securing, not perfectly, but helping people bring back free expression on social media, Elon Musk, it is being reported now, averted World War III and may have saved the planet from nuclear annihilation.

00:53:52.000 The probability of that being the circumstance is probably very, very low, but it just sounds fun, so I want to say it.

00:53:59.000 The story is actually really simple.

00:54:00.000 We have this from the Washington Post.

00:54:02.000 Elon Musk cut internet to Ukraine's military as it was attacking Russian fleet.

00:54:08.000 So, the first story that comes out is that while this major counter-offensive was underway, Elon Musk shuts down Starlink, cutting their communications, stopping the offensive.

00:54:18.000 Elon Musk responded, saying there was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.

00:54:25.000 The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.

00:54:30.000 If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.

00:54:38.000 I wonder if, wrong article, if Ukraine sank Russia's Black Sea fleet using SpaceX, using US weapons and intelligence, would Russia have dramatically escalated the conflict at the time?

00:54:54.000 There is a possibility it may have been the case.

00:54:57.000 I don't know for sure, but Elon Musk refused to provide Starlink to be used by the Ukrainians in this counter-offensive.

00:55:06.000 He may have single-handedly stopped a major escalation which could have led to World War III.

00:55:10.000 Do you know what the size of the fleet was and the makeup of the fleet in Sevastopol at the time?

00:55:14.000 No, we do know that U.S.

00:55:17.000 provided intelligence to Ukraine to sink their flagship.

00:55:21.000 That actually happened.

00:55:22.000 That happened in the Black Sea.

00:55:25.000 Ukraine used U.S.

00:55:26.000 weapons and intelligence.

00:55:29.000 I think it's even unfair to say the U.S.

00:55:30.000 sank the flagship of Russia's Black Sea fleet.

00:55:33.000 And Ukraine was intending to do more damage.

00:55:36.000 And Elon Musk said, I'm not going to assist you with this.

00:55:39.000 Could you imagine if he did?

00:55:42.000 That's crazy.

00:55:43.000 He was pretty open in the early days that he didn't want to be involved with the war.

00:55:47.000 And I think he was going to give them, he was going to send Starlink to Ukraine.

00:55:51.000 And then they, they said no, cause they wouldn't do it under his terms or something.

00:55:56.000 And then he was like, okay then.

00:55:57.000 And they were like, actually we need it.

00:55:59.000 So then he, and then he sent it over there.

00:56:01.000 It was a long time ago.

00:56:02.000 Yeah.

00:56:04.000 He's trying to protect Earth until we can get off of it and go to Mars.

00:56:09.000 The men who built America were not politicians.

00:56:11.000 They were businessmen.

00:56:13.000 But I'm curious, I mean, in terms of the uniparty establishment machine, man, Elon Musk is running afoul.

00:56:20.000 But it shows the decay of the uniparty power in that Elon Musk openly defies them, does not allow them to wage war using his infrastructure.

00:56:31.000 This is unprecedented.

00:56:32.000 If you look at Twitter before Elon, they gleefully gave the government anything they wanted.

00:56:37.000 I'm optimistic, man.

00:56:40.000 He's making me into a bigger fan.

00:56:44.000 I'm looking at a restoration of true American values of decentralization of power, and for the longest time we had an authoritarian uniparty that did whatever it wanted, regardless of the Constitution.

00:56:55.000 Now, you look at all of their devices, you look at the activist base, you look at the narrative machine, and they're failing across the board.

00:57:01.000 People tweeting about how the ADL no longer has any power.

00:57:04.000 They say, all these people who are criticizing us are white supremacists and everyone laughs.

00:57:09.000 No one cares anymore. 0.94

00:57:10.000 They've been defanged.

00:57:12.000 It's kind of like the uniparty, when two uniparties go at it, it creates an opportunity for a revolution.

00:57:18.000 That's what happened with- Two uniparties?

00:57:20.000 We don't need a revolution.

00:57:20.000 Yeah.

00:57:21.000 Revolution's a bad word.

00:57:22.000 What happened with the American founding fathers is that there was a uniparty of the Brits and there was the uniparty of the French. 0.52

00:57:28.000 Oh, that is completely- And they went at each other and the result was a liberation.

00:57:32.000 They were totally different countries, though.

00:57:33.000 Yeah, but they were like two separate, like they were monarchs.

00:57:36.000 They were monarchs.

00:57:36.000 They were literal uniparties.

00:57:38.000 And now we have the American uniparty, the Liberal Economic Order, and the Chinese, Rus', liberal, like, or not liberal, but it's a uniparty.

00:57:44.000 I see what you're saying.

00:57:45.000 And they're clashing in Ukraine, so now there's an opportunity for, like, businessmen to step in and create something new.

00:57:50.000 I see what you are saying, like the unilateral rule of the United States clashing with other authoritarians, but Russia may be aligned with China and BRICS and everything, but when you get to the global scale, it's not a uniparty.

00:58:02.000 There's greater conflict between nations.

00:58:04.000 I suppose the CCP's uniparty and the British... Uniparty refers to, in the United States, the Democrats and Republicans that are secretly aligned and pretend to be opposed to each other.

00:58:12.000 Yeah, well the Chinese Communist Party is literally a uniparty that runs that country. 0.65

00:58:16.000 Right, but the United States and China are not aligned, so it's not a global uniparty.

00:58:20.000 No, no, it's two uniparties going at each other.

00:58:22.000 So that's why I think it's an opportunity for the private sector to be like, while you guys quibble, we're going to create something functional.

00:58:29.000 And you see Elon doing it in real time.

00:58:31.000 Maybe we should call the United States the former uniparty because they've lost too much power at this point. 0.95

00:58:36.000 You know, look, I know that they're arresting and charging people and all that stuff, but they're really failing at it every step of the way.

00:58:41.000 Their ability to influence is weakening drastically every week.

00:58:44.000 Yeah, I just watched Mehdi Hassan interview Vivek Ramaswamy, and there's lag!

00:58:50.000 It's MSNBC 2023, and they still have lag in their video conference.

00:58:54.000 Well, it's always been the case.

00:58:55.000 Bro, it has!

00:58:56.000 Like, I use Zoom, there's no lag.

00:58:58.000 I use Skype, there's no lag.

00:59:00.000 What the hell infrastructure is this archaic dinosaur of a media monolith using that there's still freaking lag and they can't have a- Sometimes they can't even figure out stereo and mono.

00:59:10.000 Like, I'm here in one ear and like- Do you guys remember when CNN did the satellite interview from the same parking lot?

00:59:16.000 Yeah.

00:59:17.000 Two people in the same parking lot and they did a satellite interview as if they were different places.

00:59:20.000 So the reason I brought up lag in MSNBC is because I think that's just evidence of what you're saying, that the uniparty function is crumbling.

00:59:27.000 They are just so behind the times.

00:59:28.000 Oh, the ratings are in the gutter.

00:59:30.000 Their influence is down, is almost gone.

00:59:33.000 The fact that Elon bought Twitter and turned it into X is a huge example of this.

00:59:37.000 They were using Twitter as a weapon to spy on people, to control and to influence, and now they've lost it.

00:59:43.000 It's remarkable how much they keep losing.

00:59:46.000 Which is why they're getting desperate and trying to remove Trump from the ballot and have him arrested.

00:59:50.000 Because they know they're losing!

00:59:52.000 I'd like for the American government to win.

00:59:53.000 I don't know if there's just one government.

00:59:55.000 I'd like for the American people to win.

00:59:57.000 Me too.

00:59:57.000 I'm on that team.

00:59:58.000 You know what?

00:59:59.000 I will say that we're winning, the American people are winning, when Assange is freed.

01:00:04.000 When we have Edward Snowden back in the U.S.

01:00:06.000 without fear of him going to jail for a long time.

01:00:09.000 When people like Ross Ulbricht are freed.

01:00:12.000 I hear what you're saying, and I want to believe it, but we're not there quite yet.

01:00:15.000 We just sentenced a man to 22 years in prison, Enrique Tarrio, which I don't agree with him necessarily, but what did he do?

01:00:25.000 He wasn't even in the Capitol building.

01:00:27.000 What are we doing here?

01:00:28.000 Agreement is entirely irrelevant.

01:00:31.000 I'm not trying to even discuss whether or not you agree.

01:00:36.000 Actually blunts the point.

01:00:39.000 It doesn't matter.

01:00:40.000 It does not matter.

01:00:41.000 However, internet people will then be like, oh my God, you're a fan.

01:00:45.000 I mean, I was already called, you know, during my campaign, I took a picture with somebody and they were like, revel in their contempt.

01:00:53.000 Welcome their contempt.

01:00:55.000 Work for it.

01:00:56.000 Absolutely.

01:00:57.000 But I'm just saying, I don't support the Proud Boys.

01:01:00.000 However, you know what they've done to this guy is horrible.

01:01:04.000 Absolutely horrible.

01:01:05.000 And if they can do it to him, they can do it to you.

01:01:07.000 And that's the problem.

01:01:09.000 If they're going to come after people, it's going to be people like us in this room.

01:01:12.000 It's going to be people who are speaking out and saying things.

01:01:15.000 And if they can put Enrique Tarrio, who three, I don't know, five years ago, I didn't even know who the guy was.

01:01:20.000 And all of a sudden, he deserves 22 years in prison?

01:01:24.000 He texted people to go do something?

01:01:28.000 If I text you to go do something, are you going to do it?

01:01:31.000 The defense said that he wasn't in contact with anyone that day.

01:01:34.000 And apparently, the prosecution and the media is reporting that he said, don't leave.

01:01:39.000 But I don't know the context to which he said, don't leave.

01:01:41.000 Was it the day before they were like, hey, we're in D.C., which we do?

01:01:44.000 He was like, well, don't leave.

01:01:45.000 And now they're making it seem like he was saying, stay in the Capitol.

01:01:48.000 The defense said he didn't contact them at any point.

01:01:51.000 I will say, if it comes to the point where they begin going beyond the scope of, you know, Owen Schroyer, who was on the ground, and they're saying his speech warrants a prison sentence, He was on the ground and that's their pretext for the arrest.

01:02:05.000 If they escalate to the point where they're coming after pundits, I would argue that out of anyone in this room, Ian's the first person they'd target.

01:02:13.000 You know why?

01:02:14.000 Because I got long hair, bro, and I'm a wizard.

01:02:16.000 This happened when I was with Luke Rutkowski in Chicago and the police planted, we believe they planted drugs in the apartment we're staying at.

01:02:24.000 They target people who are less likely to be able to muster up legal defense funds.

01:02:29.000 So if they wanted to disrupt a show like this and make claims about rhetoric or inflammatory things, Uh, would they go after me?

01:02:37.000 Well, that's probably a bad idea.

01:02:38.000 It would create a huge PR press storm.

01:02:40.000 It would create a huge backlash.

01:02:42.000 We'd generate tons of money, and it would create a huge legal fight.

01:02:45.000 Would they go after Phil Labonte, multi-platinum recording artist?

01:02:48.000 I mean, that could create a huge wave across the entertainment industry.

01:02:52.000 Ian, on the other hand...

01:02:54.000 You are the least likely out of anyone here to be able to muster up a strong legal defense.

01:02:58.000 Granted, we would defend you.

01:03:00.000 What I'm saying is, I don't think anyone's gonna come and try to arrest you.

01:03:02.000 I'm saying, the target of who they go after is, who can we get easily?

01:03:08.000 Enrique Tarrio, the Proud Boys, most people don't know who he is.

01:03:12.000 They're not gonna- Look- They're waiting to go after Trump until they can build everything up on the ground because they know a direct move against Trump is... It makes him millions of dollars.

01:03:22.000 It strengthens him.

01:03:24.000 It builds his base.

01:03:25.000 It's happening.

01:03:25.000 It's literally happening.

01:03:27.000 I've never been a Trump supporter and all of a sudden I'm like, you know what?

01:03:31.000 I'm going for the political prisoner.

01:03:33.000 That's it.

01:03:34.000 Who else?

01:03:35.000 Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:03:36.000 Yes, I do like Vivek.

01:03:37.000 Also, however, is he going to be the nominee?

01:03:40.000 You look at January 6th, and they go after people you've never heard of, that don't make the press, and you don't even know are in jail, and these people, try as they might, can't get the word out.

01:03:50.000 There's too many of them.

01:03:51.000 This is what they do, one at a time.

01:03:53.000 Then they announce, two and a half years later, that Owen Schroyer will be criminally charged.

01:03:59.000 They're starting from the bottom and moving upwards.

01:04:04.000 It's very much like that story we talk about eBay.

01:04:07.000 You know, when eBay was started, it was yellow and they wanted to change the background to white, but everyone got mad, so they did it one step at a time over the course of a year.

01:04:13.000 They don't want to come out immediately, right after January 6th, and say, Donald Trump, you're under arrest.

01:04:17.000 It would create chaos.

01:04:20.000 They gotta go for the easier, low-hanging fruit, which is lower-income people who are confused. 0.99

01:04:26.000 And then what do they do?

01:04:27.000 They go to this, you know, 37-year-old woman who was walking around the Capitol waving a flag when everyone in the building, and they say, you're gonna go to prison for eight years for a felony charge for terrorism, or you're going to write a letter saying Trump made you do it, And then we're going to say you can go home right now.

01:04:44.000 Time served.

01:04:47.000 How many people have taken this deal?

01:04:48.000 How is that any different to our regular justice system?

01:04:52.000 Well, no, but this is my point.

01:04:54.000 My point is, if they go head to head with Trump, Trump rallies his base.

01:04:59.000 Sure.

01:04:59.000 If they weaken his base by getting his supporters to write letters saying Trump did this and ordered me to do it, and then use that for propaganda, knowing these people, no one will ever hear their names.

01:05:11.000 Also, they're not going to be in the news.

01:05:12.000 They won't raise money.

01:05:13.000 It's also laid that base.

01:05:15.000 Now that you've heard that all these people have been charged, if you're a layperson, you know, you go to work every day, you got the kids, you got stuff going on, you're not really paying attention.

01:05:23.000 You have no idea what these people have been charged with.

01:05:25.000 You hear, I don't know how many people have been arrested.

01:05:28.000 Now, all of a sudden, it's like an actual thing.

01:05:30.000 It's like, well, all those people arrested, of course, they had to have done something terrible.

01:05:34.000 So it adds to that level of Yeah, they did something.

01:05:38.000 Of course you gotta go for Trump because he's the orchestrator of all these people.

01:05:42.000 They get enough people to sign letters saying Trump ordered me to do it, then they say we have sworn witness testimony from 372 people saying Trump instructed them to do it.

01:05:50.000 Under duress, of course, but is that mentioned in the argument?

01:05:53.000 It's part of the strategy.

01:05:55.000 Ultimately, my point is, if they start going after personalities, Owen Schroyer, I think, proves his point.

01:06:02.000 One, they have a pretext.

01:06:03.000 He was on the Capitol grounds.

01:06:04.000 Shouldn't have done it.

01:06:06.000 Prison for three months? 0.99

01:06:07.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

01:06:08.000 But they're using his speech. 0.73

01:06:10.000 The speech is opening the door to targeting other personalities who are online.

01:06:15.000 The next person we'll likely see charged is going to be someone who maybe has a hundred, two hundred thousand followers, subscribers, and they're going to say they advocated for, incited, and instructed people to commit a crime.

01:06:27.000 I'm gonna tell you right now.

01:06:28.000 There were people on Twitter, on YouTube, and other social platforms, before January 6th, who posted videos advocating for people to engage in direct conflict.

01:06:39.000 Really?

01:06:40.000 Like violent conflict?

01:06:42.000 Yup.

01:06:42.000 And there's no question about it.

01:06:44.000 I think these people, some of whom have instantly flipped and become total disanta supporters, probably flipped because they know, uh oh, They're next in line.

01:06:56.000 After the J6s are on the ground, they're gonna come out and say, you committed an act of sedition by making these videos advocating for insurrection against the United States government. 1.00

01:07:05.000 You know, it's worth noting, too, like, for the entire time that Antifa was rioting and stuff, they were ha- they had signs that said that they wanted revolution, that they wanted to tear down the government, they want, you know, that no...

01:07:16.000 No, what is it?

01:07:17.000 No wall, no border, no USA at all or whatever it was.

01:07:20.000 They literally want to see the United States be, you know, dissolved and stuff like that.

01:07:26.000 And it was completely acceptable.

01:07:28.000 They did this stuff while they were firebombing a government building.

01:07:31.000 They were saying these kind of things while they were attacking the White House on whatever that, was it May 29th or something like that?

01:07:41.000 When they had to move Trump to the bungalow under the under the White House. But either way, the point is these

01:07:47.000 these kind of threats and stuff like that, these things have been going on for a long time and it's

01:07:53.000 not new. The only reason that they're going after the people that were at January 6th is because

01:07:58.000 they have the wrong politics. They are the wrong people. It's acceptable to be anti-government

01:08:03.000 if you're anti-government for the left. There are people that have bombed Congress that

01:08:08.000 Bill Clinton pardoned. You know, I forget the woman's name.

01:08:12.000 She was a communist.

01:08:15.000 But they literally set off a bomb in the Capitol.

01:08:19.000 The Democrat in Georgia will not be involved in the criminal prosecution of the Antifa terrorists who were firebombing the police HQ, burning down homes, building vehicles, and shooting at cops.

01:08:33.000 The Democrats are bowing out and saying, we won't charge them.

01:08:36.000 They're literally saying that you don't matter.

01:08:38.000 That what matters here is that institution.

01:08:40.000 I mean, if government is more important than the people, then that's a statement.

01:08:45.000 I think they're outright saying that if you do these things, we're on your side.

01:08:49.000 Yeah.

01:08:49.000 I mean, I know that there's people that don't believe it, but there are actual communists in Congress, people that are the squad are all DSA members, or at least they caucus with the DSA, they caucus with communists.

01:09:02.000 There is no significant light between AOC And any of the DSA members that are actual members of the DSA, there's no significant difference in their policy decisions or what they're looking for.

01:09:16.000 I don't know enough about the differentials, but socialists are different than communists.

01:09:21.000 I would imagine that they didn't want state control.

01:09:23.000 The goal of socialism is communism.

01:09:26.000 Vladimir Lenin, the goal of socialism.

01:09:28.000 You know what communism is like?

01:09:29.000 You guys ever see From Dusk Till Dawn?

01:09:31.000 Yes.

01:09:32.000 You know when, it's Cheech I think, he's outside and he's talking about all the beautiful women that are inside and all the different kinds of women's parts that are available, and then they're like, we gotta go inside there!

01:09:42.000 But then when they walk in it's a bunch of vampires who are trying to kill him.

01:09:45.000 That's communism.

01:09:46.000 Outside, they're like, dude, if you come in here, we got pizza, we got video games, we got fast cars, everybody gets to have anything you want.

01:09:53.000 What do you want, Ian?

01:09:54.000 You want open source code?

01:09:54.000 We got open source codes.

01:09:55.000 We got five open source codes.

01:09:56.000 We got five open source codes.

01:09:57.000 Phil, we got a big stage for you to play.

01:09:59.000 You're going to get everything you've ever wanted. 1.00

01:10:01.000 You walk in the door, they lock it behind you, and then they go, and now we're going to kill you. 1.00

01:10:03.000 You know what?

01:10:03.000 I don't believe Vladimir Lenin when he said that, that socialism's the road to communism.

01:10:07.000 I feel like he twisted socialism for his own gain.

01:10:10.000 Kind of like saying liberalism is the road to fascism.

01:10:12.000 He did not.

01:10:13.000 He did not.

01:10:14.000 He meant it.

01:10:15.000 That's what he thought.

01:10:16.000 He used it.

01:10:16.000 He believed it.

01:10:17.000 He killed a bunch of people. 0.87

01:10:19.000 It was his road to communism.

01:10:24.000 Family history here and personal history.

01:10:28.000 They never promise you communism.

01:10:30.000 When you look at Cuba, you look at Venezuela, there was never a point where they're like, you know what?

01:10:35.000 I am a communist.

01:10:37.000 They always go for the No, it's just a little bit of socialism.

01:10:41.000 Everything's going to be great.

01:10:42.000 We're all going to share.

01:10:43.000 Everything's going to be fantastic.

01:10:44.000 You want health care?

01:10:45.000 I got your health care.

01:10:46.000 You want this?

01:10:47.000 You want a home?

01:10:48.000 I've got you.

01:10:49.000 They promised this land.

01:10:51.000 It's exactly like Tim just said.

01:10:53.000 It is that promise.

01:10:55.000 So I guess socialized services is different than socialism.

01:10:59.000 Yes.

01:10:59.000 And we should debate what systems should be socialized.

01:11:02.000 So there's things that conservatives argue so that way, or in order to prevent a policy or whatever, but a lot of the social services that we, myself personally I'm kind of against this stuff, but They were made with the intent to diffuse the desire for the United States to become a more socialist country.

01:11:31.000 So in the Progressive Era, like the first half of the 20th century, Fascism and socialism were all the rage, right?

01:11:40.000 The state was in charge, the government could do things, and because we were now industrial countries and stuff, the state itself could do all kinds of massive projects, etc., etc., and everybody was buying it.

01:11:54.000 So I don't know why I just slipped out of my head what we were talking about.

01:11:58.000 What were we saying before?

01:12:00.000 Communism.

01:12:00.000 Yeah, but the point is like... You say they were using socialist tactics to diffuse the desire for socialism.

01:12:06.000 Yeah, because the world kind of was on fire for fascism and communism, and socialism, because before the end of World War II, Fascism didn't have the same kind of dirty connotations that it does.

01:12:19.000 Neither did communism, to be fair.

01:12:21.000 And these were new ideas, they were innovations that people were all excited about because we could remake man and remake the world because we had all this power because of the industrial revolution.

01:12:31.000 And the thing is, all those policies actually, there's an argument that those policies actually prevented the United States from falling into an actual socialist situation because the government stepped in and said, well, we'll use social programs, but we're going to keep, you know, the things that are, that keep us free.

01:12:50.000 So I'm not sure if I think it was, you know, the best option, but that is an argument that I've heard.

01:12:55.000 You guys know there's a statue of Lenin in Seattle.

01:12:58.000 Whoa.

01:12:59.000 I did not know.

01:13:01.000 Still standing.

01:13:01.000 Makes sense.

01:13:02.000 They'll pull down Hans Christian Hegg, who fought to end slavery.

01:13:06.000 They'll tear down the Founding Fathers, but not him.

01:13:09.000 The problem with Lenin is he looked so cool, dude.

01:13:12.000 Bald, just a shadow goatee, just angular.

01:13:15.000 It's kind of like the problem with socialism in general.

01:13:18.000 Yeah, it looks great.

01:13:19.000 Like, Lennon is so- what a unique looking dude.

01:13:21.000 They've modeled video game characters.

01:13:23.000 I mean, I think that the reason I think he looks cool is because I've seen video characters modeled after him.

01:13:26.000 16 foot tall statue of Lennon in Seattle.

01:13:29.000 What a guy.

01:13:30.000 16 foot.

01:13:30.000 Yeah.

01:13:31.000 They even had to exaggerate that.

01:13:34.000 Was he, like, in Fremont?

01:13:36.000 I lived in Fremont briefly.

01:13:38.000 I don't even know if we should start down the Lenin road right now.

01:13:42.000 No, we shouldn't.

01:13:43.000 We definitely shouldn't.

01:13:46.000 Marxism-Leninism is the idea that has led to all sorts of killing.

01:13:52.000 So Lenin's perspective was socialism... Lenin was like, Marx is wrong.

01:13:56.000 Socialism will not just happen.

01:13:58.000 Right?

01:13:59.000 The idea was, you had feudalism, then you had capitalism, and then once capitalism made enough product and stuff, then you would have socialism, and it would just happen, right?

01:14:08.000 And then after social- once you had socialism, then the people would start realizing that socialism works, and then that the government itself is redundant, because people are doing the things that need to be done, not the government, and then- No.

01:14:19.000 Was that- Sorry.

01:14:20.000 Yep.

01:14:21.000 Apparently it's for sale.

01:14:23.000 What is?

01:14:23.000 The statue.

01:14:24.000 Oh, get it.

01:14:25.000 And, uh, in 1996, they wanted $150,000 for it.

01:14:29.000 Right?

01:14:29.000 Which, at the equivalent today, would be $280,000 for it.

01:14:33.000 What say, uh, we buy it and then destroy it?

01:14:37.000 I so badly want to do this.

01:14:39.000 I love this.

01:14:39.000 I want to leave it.

01:14:40.000 I mean, it's a historical artifact.

01:14:42.000 Just stick it somewhere.

01:14:43.000 That is a fair point.

01:14:44.000 I'm not- Spidey, now pee on it!

01:14:46.000 Pee on it! 0.93

01:14:46.000 Let me pee on it! 0.93

01:14:48.000 I'm into that.

01:14:48.000 I think you need to do more than just paint.

01:14:50.000 You know what I would love to do?

01:14:51.000 You should paint it.

01:14:51.000 Make it look like him in real life or something.

01:14:53.000 No, put like a clown face on it. 0.88

01:14:54.000 Yeah, that'd be crazy. 0.87

01:14:55.000 Buy it.

01:14:55.000 Oh my god, you should put it in the front of the property.

01:14:57.000 Different wigs and stuff on him.

01:14:57.000 Buy it and half bury it at Freedomistand.

01:14:59.000 Oh, it's just head sticking out?

01:15:01.000 But charge people money to defile it.

01:15:03.000 You can walk by and smack it with a shoe for a buck.

01:15:06.000 Chicken eggs at it.

01:15:07.000 We could put it in a shooting range and you could pay money.

01:15:10.000 Dude, you should hold onto it.

01:15:11.000 Like any good statue.

01:15:13.000 Do you think they'd sell it to me if I told them my intention is to bring it to a shooting range?

01:15:16.000 We should stop talking about this right now.

01:15:19.000 After show only.

01:15:20.000 We just want to repaint it like a Statue of Liberty.

01:15:22.000 I got a question for you guys about the president.

01:15:24.000 Do you think, because I was thinking last night, a lot of the people that watch this show enjoy Donald Trump, so I don't want to be too much of a dig on him, but last time I was like, I feel like voting for Trump right now is like the lazy man's vote.

01:15:36.000 It's just like go in there and just do it.

01:15:38.000 I don't even know, but like Vivek is the intellectual, it's the challenging route because he actually has a plan.

01:15:43.000 You have to think about it and actually learn things to understand how to manipulate our government properly.

01:15:48.000 Vivek was talking about the stuff with Infowars and stuff like that, so another good thing about Vivek is he's talking about these kind of things that other politicians don't seem to be talking about.

01:15:59.000 Super complicated stuff, too.

01:16:01.000 It takes hours to listen to it and then you might have a piece of it, but that's the challenge.

01:16:05.000 I want to throw out there that Vivek also said that he would pardon Ross day one.

01:16:10.000 Ross Albrecht.

01:16:10.000 Ross Albrecht, Silk Road, you know, and I think that that is, for me, that's a number one reason to vote for him.

01:16:18.000 I do like what he's doing.

01:16:19.000 I do like that he's going to these shows and being real.

01:16:23.000 Which politician in America is real, you know?

01:16:26.000 And I think Vivek is.

01:16:27.000 He's coming to all these shows and, you know, doing the work.

01:16:32.000 It's real easy to get a quick soundbite and just, you know, something that your manager gave you and like, blah, blah, blah.

01:16:37.000 I think everybody should have this.

01:16:39.000 And then he's actually there explaining things.

01:16:40.000 He's also talking about cutting, you know, lots of government agencies.

01:16:45.000 And I love that part.

01:16:47.000 Yeah.

01:16:49.000 Should we launch a Give Send Go for the purpose of purchasing the Lenin statue?

01:16:54.000 Recover.

01:16:55.000 For recovering the statue.

01:16:56.000 We must recover it from the capitalist oppressors that have colonized his likeness.

01:17:00.000 Their selling it for money is really hilarious, by the way.

01:17:02.000 It's like, we made it and we're gonna sell it to you for a lot of money.

01:17:04.000 I mean, six figures.

01:17:05.000 This is no joke.

01:17:06.000 You could buy a house for that money.

01:17:07.000 I don't know.

01:17:08.000 I mean, that's a lot of money for a big pile of But I gotta tell you, hear me out.

01:17:15.000 I'm fairly confident that if I bought this and then brought it to a big piece of rural land and said, for $5, you can defile it in any way you want.

01:17:24.000 Take my money.

01:17:24.000 Oh, I'd make so much money.

01:17:26.000 Take my money, all of it.

01:17:28.000 Just let me, let me, please!

01:17:30.000 This one's for me, and this one's for my dad, and this one's for- There would be Floridian pilgrimages of people being like- Why don't we just put it in Florida?

01:17:39.000 Let's put in the capital of Latin America, Miami, and let's just, you know, let the people that have had to flee their countries in recent times take care of it for you.

01:17:48.000 I like that.

01:17:50.000 Take care of it.

01:17:51.000 If it was the bald statue of Lenin, I'd be into it, but he's got a hat on.

01:17:54.000 I don't have a lot of respect for bald guys that wear hats.

01:17:56.000 We can get rid of that hat.

01:17:58.000 What is the non-profit, the Victims of Communism?

01:18:00.000 Victims of Communism.

01:18:01.000 It would be cool to like buy it and donate it to them and say like, do with it what you will.

01:18:06.000 I love this.

01:18:06.000 Make it special.

01:18:07.000 I think you should definitely do it.

01:18:09.000 Give us a go and see if people will donate to do it.

01:18:12.000 If I were to do a Give, Send, Go, it would have to be to give it to the victims of communism memorial or whatever.

01:18:22.000 In fact, I would reach out to an anti-communist... How about you use it to stop current communism?

01:18:27.000 Or at least educate people on the current communism?

01:18:29.000 Because communism isn't over!

01:18:31.000 We've got an island 90 miles from our shores that is It's adapting to the monetary system.

01:18:38.000 Chinese communism isn't real.

01:18:40.000 Human communism is real communism.

01:18:42.000 What I'm saying is, I would not crowdfund to buy this to personally own.

01:18:47.000 If we do a crowdfund, it's so that an anti-communist organization can get ownership of it.

01:18:54.000 Like, I'm saying, like, I don't like the idea we do a give-send-go, everyone gives money, which effectively gives me... I don't want the statue.

01:19:00.000 Like, if I was going to buy this statue on my own, I'd buy it on my own, and I'd charge admission for being able to defile it, because that's hilarious.

01:19:05.000 Turning him into a capitalist spectacle for capitalists to make money off of is just, mm, oh, it's icing on the cake.

01:19:10.000 I love it.

01:19:11.000 So it's a possibility.

01:19:13.000 The first question is, will they actually sell it to someone they know is going to defile it?

01:19:17.000 But I think they legitimately would sell it to the victims of communism or some non-profit.

01:19:23.000 But it's also a question, too, would non-profit like the victims of communism want to be involved in something so crude?

01:19:29.000 Would that be besmirching the memory of those who were killed by these monsters?

01:19:34.000 No, this was created in Czechoslovakia during the Soviet Union's reign in 1988.

01:19:38.000 And then after the dissolution of the USSR, It was brought to America in 1993. 0.94

01:19:46.000 So I don't think this has anything to do with people that loved communism.

01:19:49.000 This is people that fled the Soviet Union.

01:19:51.000 Who made it?

01:19:53.000 It was made by a Bulgarian-born Slovak sculptor named Emil Venkov.

01:19:57.000 I don't know what his communist ties were.

01:20:00.000 I'm just, you know, it would be hilarious to see what Antifa would do if we're like, it's ours now!

01:20:05.000 They'd be very confused.

01:20:08.000 It's made of bronze, maybe we could polish it.

01:20:09.000 I think I have to buy it.

01:20:11.000 What am I alive for if not to buy the Statue of Lenin?

01:20:16.000 So that we can topple it?

01:20:17.000 Have Phil Labonte stand on top of it?

01:20:21.000 He's got like a thing behind him you can sit on?

01:20:23.000 Maybe you can set up a drum kit back there or something?

01:20:26.000 I'm gonna pursue this because I look at the great works.

01:20:32.000 I look at the... I play Civilization, right?

01:20:36.000 And in Civilization, every so often you get great figures.

01:20:39.000 So it's like, you'll get a little dude, he'll be called, like, musician, and then you can place him somewhere and he makes culture, but every so often you'll get, like, Beethoven appears, and he's a guy you can go and then create a great work, and the great work creates cultural influence.

01:20:50.000 And I think about, where are we today?

01:20:52.000 Where's all of the significant cultural stuff that matters to people of this generation?

01:20:57.000 I saw a meme, and it's a bunch of cassette tapes, and it said all of these albums came out within, like, four months of each other.

01:21:05.000 Oh yeah, 1991.

01:21:05.000 Everything awesome!

01:21:06.000 Use your illusion 1 and 2.

01:21:08.000 Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Nevermind, it's like some type of Pilots.

01:21:12.000 Bad Motorfinger, Soundgarden.

01:21:13.000 That was a good year, dude.

01:21:15.000 It's crazy.

01:21:16.000 And so I'm thinking today, What have we done this year?

01:21:20.000 What has anyone done where it's like, we're gonna remember that crazy thing?

01:21:23.000 Oliver Anthony, I'll say.

01:21:25.000 For sure!

01:21:26.000 I'm not saying nothing's been done, I'm just saying like, think about the things that we should create to create that memory and that cultural waypoint, as it were.

01:21:34.000 So I kind of feel like...

01:21:35.000 You know, Phil Labonte standing on the ruin of a shattered Lenin statue singing in mockery of communism is one of those things to be done.

01:21:46.000 Light it from underneath.

01:21:47.000 Oh yeah, put some lights underneath the thing.

01:21:50.000 Something free with a ladder on the back or steps on the back so you can climb up onto it really easy.

01:21:54.000 Timcast anti-communist shirt.

01:21:56.000 You know, I don't like the destruction of statues, confederate or otherwise.

01:22:01.000 The burning of the library of Alexandria is a horror story to me.

01:22:05.000 Like, you know, if someone's like, you want to hear a horror story, you tell me about ghosts and demons.

01:22:08.000 I'm like, oh, that's cool.

01:22:09.000 But you tell me about the burning of the library of Alexandria.

01:22:11.000 And I'm like, I'm hiding.

01:22:13.000 I'm like, no, the knowledge. 1.00

01:22:15.000 So, you know, destroying the statue for no reason, just like toppling it is stupid. 0.98

01:22:20.000 But doing something cultural and artistic with it is important. 0.85

01:22:23.000 You know one of the things I like about that civilization reference, you're talking about great people, when your society produces a great person, Beethoven, Steve Jobs, whoever, when you get multiple great people all produced at the same time in history, they can come together to create a golden age.

01:22:37.000 And that's what's happened with the internet.

01:22:39.000 We're in a golden age.

01:22:40.000 We're in a time of immense crisis, but we're in a golden age while we're suffering the crisis, so it's that much easier.

01:22:46.000 We've got to use it while we have it, because it's, you know, every age comes to an end.

01:22:50.000 Maybe we write a song And then we can use it in the music video?

01:22:56.000 Like, I'm thinking, like, can we create an artistic work that represents, you know, we deride and explain how bad communism is?

01:23:04.000 And there's a message that I think people often say that doesn't get enough attention, it doesn't permeate enough, and it's that the communists were infinitely worse, or I shouldn't say infinitely, but were substantially worse in many ways than the Nazis.

01:23:14.000 The Nazis committed probably one of the most, like, evil atrocities, but the communists had this long, drawn-out 70 years, or longer, 100 years, even still to this day, with what China has done to the Uighur Muslims, it's just this endless history of hundreds of millions of dead.

01:23:29.000 The Holodomor happened before the Holocaust, right? 0.96

01:23:31.000 And these things are horrifying and evil.

01:23:35.000 So, at least saying, like, guys, we get it. 0.92

01:23:37.000 We hate Nazis.

01:23:39.000 But can we also add Communism into the enlisted people?

01:23:41.000 I don't understand how we don't have Communism.

01:23:43.000 I mean, I don't know, depending on whatever number you want to use for how many people perished under Nazism, but Communism, that number is so much more.

01:23:54.000 Maybe 200 million people?

01:23:55.000 I mean, it's just so big.

01:23:57.000 Oh my God.

01:23:58.000 Dylan Butters says, buy the statue, put a chicken bridge over it, and play Lennon getting crapped on live.

01:24:05.000 That's a really good idea.

01:24:07.000 Love it.

01:24:08.000 Just him, like, half out of the ground.

01:24:10.000 Dude, the Lennon statue in Chicken City would be the best thing ever.

01:24:14.000 Those poor chickens just having to deal with this thing. 1.00

01:24:17.000 No, the chickens would, we would put the perch right above it, where they sleep, and they just crap in their sleep and it plops right onto Lennon.

01:24:24.000 A Lennon statue in Chicken City.

01:24:26.000 Forever.

01:24:28.000 Love it.

01:24:28.000 Oh perfect.

01:24:30.000 I'll take I'll take a look at it to be completely honest I mean, it's not like I just have 300 grand to buy a statue of Lenin with.

01:24:35.000 Cuz you gotta ship it too.

01:24:36.000 It's massive.

01:24:37.000 And shipping that's gonna be hefty.

01:24:39.000 How much is this?

01:24:40.000 That's gonna be a serious cost to ship. 0.83

01:24:42.000 You get a bunch of people to do a road trip.

01:24:44.000 You go pick it up and That's why I'm like, I really do think we could muster up a crowdfund between, it's not just about what this show can do, but if I reached out to a bunch of other personalities and said, guys, let's promote this and get a non-profit to buy this statue and then do something critical of communism with it, we'd raise that money overnight.

01:25:02.000 I agree.

01:25:03.000 And I love that idea.

01:25:04.000 I think that there is communism still today and a lot of people just don't know, don't know what it is, don't know how miserable it is, don't understand the crisis.

01:25:14.000 Again, going back to Miami, over a million people who have fled communist regimes live in Miami today.

01:25:22.000 And so, yeah, if you got to live it or talk to people who've lived it or do something like this, buy a statue and make sure people know what's going on.

01:25:31.000 Is the reason it fails and just always has failed is because it sounds great, everyone's gonna get enough, and then it gets to the point where you have so many people, we don't have enough resources now, everyone can't have enough.

01:25:41.000 It fails because human beings are not geared to be socialists.

01:25:47.000 Well, in small groups we are, like in a family unit.

01:25:49.000 Sure, but that's your desire to give to your children, to give to your wife, to give to the people that you love.

01:25:58.000 Now, what desire do you have?

01:25:59.000 If I tell you, hey, I really need some money and I just, I want it because I want it.

01:26:04.000 What drives you to go make that money for me?

01:26:07.000 If you were my neighbor and you were like, I want some money because I'm going to plant some corn, I could see like... Ian, you're talking about a concept that has to be at least national, right?

01:26:20.000 So you're talking about millions of people.

01:26:21.000 And things work differently at different resolutions, right?

01:26:26.000 So the way that The way that a family works.

01:26:32.000 There's only four, five, six, whatever, ten in your immediate family.

01:26:36.000 Communism's fine for that.

01:26:38.000 Because the people that you're supporting need you to take care of them.

01:26:43.000 Children can't go out and support themselves and take care of themselves.

01:26:47.000 That works.

01:26:47.000 But once you get to your neighborhood, You can't have a communist neighborhood.

01:26:52.000 You can might have some kind of, you can have social programs or social get-togethers and your neighbors can help each other, but it can't be just like, hey, Joe makes 100 grand and Bill makes 30, so we're gonna take, you know, Joe's money and give some of it to Bill and stuff, and that's the way that it ends up working out.

01:27:06.000 That ends up creating animosity, it ends up making mistrust, it ends up making people not feel like working.

01:27:12.000 There's this idea called the tragedy of the commons, right?

01:27:14.000 So if no one owns something, no one takes care of it because they don't feel like they're responsible for it.

01:27:19.000 That's one of the things that property does, right?

01:27:21.000 If you own something, then you feel like it is a part of you on some level, and it gives you the desire to take care of it, to make it better, to build on it.

01:27:32.000 If you don't have to take care of it, what happens?

01:27:35.000 Everybody pisses on the seat, because you don't have to clean the toilet.

01:27:38.000 Public toilets are always a mess, because no one takes care of them.

01:27:42.000 Like I was thinking, then does it break down in a little society because communism doesn't work after 60 people or something because there's someone in charge?

01:27:50.000 It doesn't work after one.

01:27:51.000 Right, and there's always somebody in charge because, like, when you remove the incentive to do anything because everyone's getting the same thing, then it becomes about forcing people to do something and then People are appointed to force other people to do stuff and then before long it just... I mean, just think about it.

01:28:09.000 What incentivizes you to do things, right?

01:28:12.000 And there has to be something.

01:28:14.000 Otherwise, why leave your house?

01:28:16.000 You have to leave your house and make money because otherwise the electricity is going to be turned off.

01:28:19.000 You're not going to be able to afford things.

01:28:21.000 You're not going to be able to afford food.

01:28:22.000 So you go out.

01:28:24.000 Do your job and you come home with your money and you pay for things.

01:28:27.000 If everything was guaranteed to you, light, electricity, everything, you know, you just, you had it.

01:28:32.000 What's going to incentivize you to leave?

01:28:35.000 And go be productive and go make things and go be part of the society.

01:28:39.000 You know, it's kind of like what happened in COVID and I think to this day a lot of people have been talking about like there's some something shifted in our in our culture a little bit where people just maybe don't necessarily want to do a job, you know, because you were incentivized to stay home and and it kind of it's awesome.

01:28:58.000 I mean great you get to stay home and live your life.

01:29:01.000 And somebody else is going to provide for you.

01:29:03.000 And it just doesn't work.

01:29:04.000 Things don't just magically appear.

01:29:06.000 That food at the supermarket doesn't magically just go up.

01:29:09.000 It's not like somebody in the back of your supermarket, of your local supermarket is just like, you know, these things magically come out of something.

01:29:16.000 You have to grow that food.

01:29:17.000 You have to produce that food.

01:29:18.000 Who's going to do that?

01:29:19.000 Do you really think people want to go work the fields because they love it?

01:29:24.000 Yeah, it sounds like what would be profit motive, basically, is what gets people to do it.

01:29:28.000 Yes.

01:29:28.000 You need a profit.

01:29:30.000 And also, profit is the perfect way to regulate the market.

01:29:35.000 You know exactly what somebody's willing to pay for something.

01:29:38.000 You're willing to pay $1,000 for a cell phone because you find value in that cell phone, right?

01:29:43.000 But if, you know, I was like, hey, this Apple phone, whatever, isn't $20,000, maybe you'd be like, I don't really need that.

01:29:49.000 There's a price point that is the right point that you're willing to pay for.

01:29:53.000 So that, you need that.

01:29:55.000 And do you think that you need to let people suffer?

01:29:57.000 I think, I'll just tell you this, I think that you need to let people suffer and the ones that pick themselves up and strive for something better are the success ones that send their genetics on to the next generation and the ones that they can't get out of the suffering die off and their genetics no longer with us.

01:30:10.000 You ever look at the Instagram page like, what is it, Nature is Metal?

01:30:17.000 Yes, dude.

01:30:18.000 So, one of the things that that page constantly says, right, and shows you all kinds of stuff, animals get eaten all the time, and he's like, look, nature's not fair.

01:30:29.000 Brutal.

01:30:29.000 It's brutal.

01:30:31.000 And the cheaters and the most brutal are rewarded.

01:30:33.000 Yeah.

01:30:33.000 And so what you need to do is you need to have your society Be in harmony with the fact that the world is unfair.

01:30:45.000 And I'm not saying accept that it's unfair and just be like, oh, well, this is the way it is and just ignore it.

01:30:51.000 But when I say be in harmony, it means you have to understand that the world is unfair.

01:30:55.000 So you have to design a system that allows for those things to happen without destroying the system.

01:31:02.000 Right?

01:31:03.000 And that's one of the things that individuals that are free can do.

01:31:07.000 If you have decentralized, and you should, you understand decentralized more than most people, but if you have decentralized power, one person cheating or taking advantage of someone else or whatever doesn't ruin the system.

01:31:19.000 But if you have centralized power, then the incentive for the people in charge is to do whatever the hell they want.

01:31:25.000 Because who's gonna stop them?

01:31:27.000 Look at the way that the government's acting now.

01:31:28.000 Right?

01:31:29.000 Our government isn't a communist government, like it's not a totalitarian communist government, but the government currently is persecuting people that have bad opinions, because who's going to stop them?

01:31:40.000 You know, I was just thinking we should probably do a Kickstarter for the Lenin statue shooting range thing, which would undoubtedly be rejected by Kickstarter.

01:31:49.000 But it would just really be really funny to have like that video where we're like, you know, our plan is to start a business that brings people together.

01:31:56.000 Our plan?

01:31:57.000 buy a statue of Lenin and then let people come to a shooting range where they can fire guns at it.

01:32:01.000 What's the statue made of?

01:32:03.000 Bronze.

01:32:04.000 But you know, we've got a Barrett M82 and you know, we would charge like a hundred bucks for it.

01:32:11.000 Gotta be at least like 100 yards away.

01:32:13.000 No, I think if we were going to allow anyone to fire the M82 at it,

01:32:16.000 it'd have to be like a thousand dollars for one round.

01:32:19.000 Fair.

01:32:19.000 Because it destroys the statue.

01:32:21.000 Like, severely.

01:32:23.000 And you know, like, if people are firing .22s at it or whatever, you can go forever and enjoy it.

01:32:28.000 I wouldn't let them fire .22s, unless you're far away, because they're going to fly out, ricochet out, perhaps. 0.77

01:32:33.000 Just put it with the chickens, because them shitting on Len's head is way better. 0.99

01:32:38.000 for eternity. People can take pictures with it. 0.97

01:32:40.000 Bearing him waist up and then letting the chickens come in and you can come and take pictures.

01:32:44.000 Yeah.

01:32:45.000 Yeah, and then they're less likely to ban our Kickstarter, but it would still be hilarious to make the Kickstarter

01:32:49.000 video where it's like, your contribution today, what do you get?

01:32:52.000 You know, for a $10 contribution, you get one ticket to come to Lennon Land where you can watch chickens take a

01:32:57.000 dump on his head. 0.87

01:32:58.000 Oh, please don't call it Lennon Land. Please. 0.98

01:33:00.000 Please.

01:33:00.000 We do not need to, like, no, no.

01:33:02.000 Unless it's like Lennon Sucks Land, then maybe.

01:33:06.000 We can call it Utopia.

01:33:07.000 I was just thinking that.

01:33:08.000 Yeah.

01:33:08.000 Just call it Utopia.

01:33:09.000 Welcome to Utopia.

01:33:10.000 Yeah, that's actually funny. 0.97

01:33:11.000 Chicken shitty. 0.88

01:33:13.000 You know? 0.97

01:33:13.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:33:14.000 Living in the shitty. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:15.000 Chicken shitty. 1.00

01:33:16.000 And like, do you have a dog? 1.00

01:33:18.000 We can allow your dog to come in and you're in it on this damn show. 1.00

01:33:20.000 There you go. 1.00

01:33:21.000 For a $5 fee.

01:33:22.000 I still like Phil doing it more.

01:33:23.000 No, but you can too.

01:33:24.000 That'd be a good video of just him yelling like full on.

01:33:28.000 It feels so right!

01:33:33.000 So I guess the reason why it's still up is because it's on private property and it's privately owned.

01:33:37.000 Cool.

01:33:37.000 It's been very controversial with a lot of people saying it's like putting a Klansman up.

01:33:41.000 I bet they're so ready to get rid of it.

01:33:44.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats!

01:33:46.000 So, uh, we're gonna go to Super Chats.

01:33:49.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, to watch the members-only portion of this show, and, uh, we will, uh, have you guys call into the show, and you can talk to us and our guests, it'll be good fun.

01:34:06.000 But for the time being, let's, uh, read your Super Chats.

01:34:09.000 I'm not your buddy, guys, as I believe your theory on 2020 and lockdowns is challenged by them wanting to re-implement those measures.

01:34:16.000 It wasn't anger, but rather opportunity for fewer integrity measures.

01:34:20.000 Throw in media hysteria mixed with cult members, and you got willing lone wolves committing fraud.

01:34:26.000 Interesting.

01:34:28.000 All right.

01:34:29.000 Corey Anderson says, where is Will Chamberlain?

01:34:31.000 You need to bring in lawyers to talk about all this BS.

01:34:33.000 Where is Will?

01:34:35.000 Will's a good friend, but he works for Ron DeSantis.

01:34:38.000 Still he does?

01:34:39.000 Yeah.

01:34:40.000 Does he want to work for Ron?

01:34:41.000 Will!

01:34:43.000 But as you all know, DeSantis' campaign has barred any of their people from coming on this show.

01:34:49.000 So lame.

01:34:49.000 Take that for what you will.

01:34:53.000 Alright, we'll grab some more.

01:34:56.000 Andre Tukulescu?

01:34:58.000 Fun fact.

01:35:00.000 Canada has a mandatory retirement age of 75 for senators and it's useless.

01:35:04.000 After the Bill C-18 debacle, which has removed news from Meta and Google, Canada has now effectively banned WD-40 beginning 2024.

01:35:11.000 Hell, what, really?

01:35:13.000 Wow.

01:35:16.000 What do we got?

01:35:16.000 Jam says, yo, Timmy, what up?

01:35:17.000 Thanks for joining.

01:35:19.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:35:20.000 says, ignorance rules until illegals are sleeping on your sidewalks. 0.99

01:35:23.000 They voted for it.

01:35:24.000 And this is the noble life of democracy, Tim.

01:35:26.000 The belief in humanity, even though humanity is a screaming, selfish mob.

01:35:31.000 Fair point!

01:35:32.000 Yeah, we didn't get into the story.

01:35:33.000 Eric Adams saying that New York is doomed.

01:35:36.000 It made me feel really good.

01:35:38.000 He's like, we got 10,000 immigrants coming every month.

01:35:41.000 The city can't handle it.

01:35:43.000 It's over.

01:35:44.000 And it's just funny because it's like, well, you said if they voted for you, you'd make it a sanctuary city and maintain that policy, and you did, and now it's all burning down around you.

01:35:51.000 So, you know, you did it to yourself.

01:35:53.000 Oop.

01:35:55.000 You reap what you sow, man.

01:35:58.000 Bullseye Ben says, to New York City, you made your bed, now sleep in it.

01:36:01.000 That's right. 0.70

01:36:03.000 Blah blah blah says, watched a bit about Baldur's Gate, with all the wokeness stuff being at the forefront, I think being able to get screwed by a bear was overlooked lol.

01:36:12.000 Yeah, was it actually a bear though?

01:36:15.000 Cause druids can turn into animals and stuff?

01:36:19.000 So, it's like, I'm playing Baldur's Gate, the mechanics are awesome.

01:36:24.000 It's a crazy game because you can literally do anything.

01:36:27.000 Like, you, the main character, you can die.

01:36:30.000 And then just play the game without it and carry on the storyline as somebody else.

01:36:33.000 It's really interesting and I think it's a lot of fun.

01:36:37.000 And, uh, you know it's an interesting question about these, uh...

01:36:41.000 I gotta buy this game.

01:36:42.000 Yeah.

01:36:42.000 in character creation because if they truly made a game with an open character creation

01:36:48.000 you could literally create any character within the confines of the story's universe.

01:36:53.000 In which case if it's possible to exist you can make it.

01:36:56.000 So like you could literally create a character who's schizophrenic.

01:37:01.000 That's the future of character creation in video games.

01:37:02.000 I gotta buy this game.

01:37:03.000 Baldur's Gate?

01:37:04.000 Yeah.

01:37:05.000 Why?

01:37:06.000 So I can at least know what the heck you guys are talking about.

01:37:09.000 Isn't this the one you and Ian are playing?

01:37:11.000 Uh, Ian, yeah, Ian was playing it first, but I guess he stopped.

01:37:14.000 I've been playing it, I've got about six hours in.

01:37:18.000 My biggest problem with it right now, so it's basically Dungeons and Dragons.

01:37:21.000 And so, it's a really awesome mechanic.

01:37:24.000 That it's like, if you are in combat and you fire an arrow at someone, it's like your attack versus their defense or whatever, so there's actually a D20, a dice roll and stuff like that.

01:37:33.000 The problem I'm having with it is that The path I'm taking in the game, naturally, is charisma and persuasion, meaning I'm succeeding by talking my way through everything, which creates a problem because my characters are savvy, but can't fight.

01:37:50.000 Right, right.

01:37:51.000 So it's like I'm in a level seven area with level three dudes, and I'm successfully navigating all of the conflict through persuasion.

01:38:01.000 Gonna try and talk your way out of the dragon?

01:38:03.000 And then it comes to a point where there's somewhere where you can't avoid the conflict, and it's like you instantly lose.

01:38:03.000 Right.

01:38:08.000 And I'm like, but come on, man.

01:38:10.000 If I'm leveling up through persuasion and charisma and not focusing on combat, like, tell me that before, because I had to go back and reload.

01:38:18.000 I saved, like, 30 minutes of practice.

01:38:19.000 I'm like, oh, okay.

01:38:20.000 That's just bad game design.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, like, I walk out of the... I don't want to give too much of the game away, but I walk out of a room and there's, like, 12 NPCs, instant combat, and I'm like, well, I'm dead.

01:38:30.000 You maybe need to do side quests to build up, get up to level 4 or something.

01:38:34.000 That's fine, and I understand that, like, with most RPGs.

01:38:38.000 But it's just an issue of, in most RPGs, as you're progressing through the story, your combat is leveling up, and then you might say, ah, the next level is a little high, so I better, you know, level up my guys.

01:38:49.000 But I am leveling up my guys.

01:38:51.000 I'm just leveling them up in other ways.

01:38:54.000 And so it's like, you know, I'm running into that wall.

01:38:57.000 But it's fine, I get it.

01:38:58.000 I'm enjoying it so far.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, I just started it too.

01:39:00.000 It's like Divinity 2, but less cartoony.

01:39:02.000 If you guys ever played Divinity, Divinity series, it's kind of like a King's Quest, like a talking crab with like a crown.

01:39:08.000 Yeah, I love King's Quest.

01:39:09.000 Larian Studios, who's making Baldur's Gate 3, their earlier two games were the Divinity and Divinity 2 games, and they're like 98 out of 100 top-level games, just like Baldur's Gate, top-down, isometric.

01:39:19.000 But they're more crazy, like you can teleport, you know, there's tons of stuff.

01:39:23.000 Baldur's Gate's more, like, realistic.

01:39:25.000 I am enjoying it.

01:39:27.000 It's a lot of fun.

01:39:27.000 He's a friend, too.

01:39:29.000 Tom Woods is great.

01:39:29.000 Grab some more Super Chats.

01:39:30.000 Trollkin says, you should have Thomas E. Woods on the show.

01:39:33.000 He's a historian and podcaster whose work inspired the Mises Caucus.

01:39:36.000 He's a friend too.

01:39:37.000 Super knowledgeable, but also a fun and conversational guy.

01:39:40.000 Tom Woods is great.

01:39:42.000 Look, we want to do a culture war episode debating communism.

01:39:44.000 I'd love to get somebody who lived it.

01:39:47.000 You know?

01:39:48.000 I mean, to be fair, Luke did, too.

01:39:50.000 But very briefly.

01:39:51.000 Luke Orkowski.

01:39:52.000 I haven't heard back from Zoltan yet.

01:39:54.000 Oh, that'd be amazing.

01:39:54.000 I texted him.

01:39:56.000 Oof.

01:39:56.000 Like I said, you're gonna be in Miami.

01:39:58.000 I can definitely introduce you to a whole bunch.

01:40:01.000 I mean, that would be super amazing if we did, like, uh... Maybe- maybe we- maybe we get something with- we do, like, one of those panels where you get, you know, you get 10 people to sit down in chairs and you ask them questions about what's going on.

01:40:11.000 That'd be super awesome.

01:40:12.000 Maybe a lot could do it.

01:40:14.000 While we're down there.

01:40:16.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:40:20.000 Treadbull says, Phil, what would you have said to Hinkle if you were here when he was?

01:40:24.000 Well, I mean, I'm not here to pick fights with people.

01:40:29.000 This is not my podcast, so I'm going to be polite and stuff like that.

01:40:34.000 But I would have drilled him about property rights and what his plan is to do with the people that dissent.

01:40:41.000 Because it's always the same plan! 1.00

01:40:42.000 Kill him! 1.00

01:40:43.000 I don't think he's actually a communist, though. 1.00

01:40:46.000 But we'll see if we have that bigger conversation.

01:40:49.000 There are people who are young and naive who are like, communism is just when people take care of each other and we share our stuff.

01:40:56.000 It's like, no, no, no, no.

01:40:57.000 You poor child.

01:40:58.000 That's not what communism is.

01:40:59.000 Somebody's in charge. 0.92

01:41:00.000 That's the lie they tell you so they can kill your family and steal your stuff. 0.92

01:41:04.000 Yep. 0.98

01:41:05.000 So.

01:41:05.000 But is he naive or is he just evil and doesn't understand?

01:41:09.000 Because I think that, you know, ultimately, if you are in favor of this and, you know, it always ends in people starving and people being killed and stuff.

01:41:19.000 You have to be a little evil to like this, to want that.

01:41:23.000 I mean, it's just... The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

01:41:26.000 Yeah, they paint it like it's such wonderful... How old is he? 22?

01:41:29.000 Yeah, but I mean, come on, he's 22 and he's young and whatever, but he's not dumb, right?

01:41:34.000 Objectively. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Ignorant and naive. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Sure. 1.00

01:41:36.000 There's a difference between the people who are willfully lying and the people who have been tricked and are saying dumb things. 1.00

01:41:41.000 We can call it the banality of evil in that they're going along with it.

01:41:44.000 But the thing about Hinkle is, I don't even think he is of the banality of evil communism.

01:41:50.000 There are people who are like, Communism is actually good.

01:41:53.000 Like, I've read Marx, and it's like, okay, you're the banality.

01:41:56.000 Then you've got people who know what it really is and lie to you, and that's the malice and the abject. 1.00

01:42:02.000 But what he's saying isn't even communism.

01:42:04.000 He was not describing communism, at least in our conversation.

01:42:07.000 Yeah, I think the best thing to do with Henkel... I mean, I guess he's got stuff on the internet, but it's probably good to go ahead and just, like, list off a bunch of things that typically communism... He's talking about, like, regulation.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, we agreed on that.

01:42:23.000 Like, we had a similar vision of, like, socializing certain aspects of our governance, but how we get there is, like, do you want to use communism to get there?

01:42:30.000 Do you want to use, like, voluntarism to get there?

01:42:33.000 Which I... I don't know how you guys feel about that.

01:42:35.000 The libertarians would always be like, voluntarism's the way.

01:42:37.000 People will do it because they want.

01:42:38.000 But like you were saying earlier, if you don't have incentive...

01:42:38.000 Yeah, it is the way.

01:42:40.000 Is it just capital?

01:42:41.000 Yeah, but do you do nice things for people because you have an incentive to do it?

01:42:45.000 I mean, I think that it's a cultural thing.

01:42:48.000 I mean, honestly, being a volunteer, you do have a level of, like, you do it for your own well-being.

01:42:57.000 You don't do things for other people.

01:42:59.000 You do it for yourself.

01:43:00.000 You feel good when you volunteer.

01:43:02.000 I mean, I love to volunteer, and I'll be the first to say it.

01:43:04.000 I love to volunteer because it makes me feel good.

01:43:07.000 I love to do things for other people.

01:43:09.000 It makes me feel good.

01:43:09.000 You have to be a little bit of a selfish person even to give to other people.

01:43:14.000 I mean, there's an incentive to do it.

01:43:18.000 We talked about Tom Woods.

01:43:22.000 I heard him talking about this one time.

01:43:23.000 There's this odd thing that happens when you purchase something, right?

01:43:27.000 You go to the store and you give them money and they give you the thing or whatever and you both say thank you.

01:43:36.000 Like, that's very rare where both people are thanking each other, because both people feel like they have had a good experience in the exchange, right?

01:43:46.000 You wanted the thing more than you wanted the money, and the people that had the thing want the money more than the thing, right?

01:43:54.000 And that filling the need of another person is part of what makes markets work.

01:44:03.000 The fact that You have the ability to fill a need, and they can pay you, which is that positive exchange.

01:44:10.000 That's why markets work, and that's one of the things that's very pro-social about markets, that just doesn't exist in command economies, like a socialist system.

01:44:20.000 There's no thank you, when you just have a, you know, you go in and get your ticket, or if you're sitting in a bread line for hours and stuff to get, you know, just the basics and stuff.

01:44:29.000 So, that's one of the things about volunteerism, is both people are engaging, Because they want to, in a voluntary way, and both people come out feeling like they got at least a decent deal, or both people come out feeling like they got screwed, and that's how you know that you got a good deal too.

01:44:46.000 If the guy you did business with feels like you took him and you kind of feel like the guy took you, well then you probably got a fair deal, you know?

01:44:53.000 Alright, the text vet says, The Trump flag shown is obviously speaking about the US, not individuals.

01:44:58.000 That's why it shows 1776, they're saying, Trump to win, or America is dead.

01:45:04.000 It seems fairly obvious as that's what everyone's been saying.

01:45:06.000 I agree with that.

01:45:08.000 I'd say Trump to be freed, Trump to not be facing this.

01:45:13.000 Yes, Trump to win is a whole other scenario.

01:45:16.000 I mean, is he the best candidate?

01:45:18.000 I mean, put it to a vote, right?

01:45:21.000 But to say that he has to win, I think that's taking it to the next level.

01:45:25.000 I think it should be Trump to be free of these charges. Otherwise, America is in

01:45:31.000 a bad place. Sure, I can agree to that. I don't think that he has to. Then that's starting a

01:45:36.000 whole other thing. So if Trump doesn't win, does that give you an excuse to now go out and riot? I

01:45:41.000 mean, come on, like, isn't that how we got here in the first place? Like, it's one step at a

01:45:45.000 time, people. Let's let him be free.

01:45:47.000 Let's, you know, let's let the system work itself. Pablo Papano says, Ian, no president can unite the

01:45:53.000 US only God and graphene. God's a big part of it. And graphene is awesome, because that'll

01:45:58.000 give us a unified like an industrial focus as a nation. I I actually agree with that.

01:46:03.000 I think at this point, I don't think there's any politician that could actually unite the United States.

01:46:10.000 No.

01:46:11.000 I do think there is something to be said about God uniting a people.

01:46:16.000 I don't see how you create a culture of faith in the United States today.

01:46:21.000 But if you were to look back at the past in the United States, people hated each other and they fought politically, but they all at least shared a moral framework, and that is their faith.

01:46:31.000 And because of that...

01:46:33.000 You know, there was cohesion.

01:46:34.000 Yeah, I see it with Judaism, Islam, and Christianity all focusing on a unifaith, this one God.

01:46:42.000 A shared moral framework creates stability.

01:46:44.000 And it doesn't matter who your political leader is, if everyone has the same morals.

01:46:48.000 They fear, if I do something wrong, I will be punished by someone else.

01:46:52.000 And so it's interesting that faith in a god or religion that has Punishment for bad deeds means you're not going to be the liar, the cheater, the stealer, because there is someone who is coming to punish you.

01:47:05.000 Yeah, and it doesn't need to be a president, but I think a human that can translate the ideas of God and graphene or something, you know, whatever it is that unifies the people, if someone can translate that to the people, like Gandhi, he wasn't the president of India, he was just a guy, he was just a lawyer, but he rose to the occasion and inspired people to free themselves.

01:47:22.000 Neglectful Sausage says, Tim Pool smoking that copium.

01:47:25.000 Quote, they're ramping up arrests and putting people on the right in for 20 years.

01:47:29.000 They're totally losing.

01:47:30.000 JFC.

01:47:31.000 Yep.

01:47:32.000 I think you'd have to be fairly naive not to understand the point of what's going on.

01:47:37.000 There are things called death throws.

01:47:40.000 Do you guys know what death throws are?

01:47:42.000 Yeah.

01:47:43.000 When someone begins to die, they begin violently thrashing about.

01:47:45.000 Not everybody.

01:47:47.000 When someone is drowning, what do they do?

01:47:48.000 They violently thrash about.

01:47:50.000 If someone is drowning and you go to rescue them, what do they do?

01:47:52.000 They grab you and drag you down.

01:47:54.000 That's why they say you have to go up behind them.

01:47:56.000 There's like a technique for rescuing people who are drowning.

01:47:59.000 There's a way for them to pass out, actually.

01:48:02.000 That's what I was told in lifeguarding class.

01:48:02.000 Really?

01:48:04.000 You go up behind them and pull them from behind.

01:48:07.000 But that's one technique.

01:48:08.000 I don't know.

01:48:09.000 I'm not a lifeguard.

01:48:10.000 But here's the thing.

01:48:12.000 If they were in control, they would not need to indict Donald Trump at all.

01:48:16.000 If they were in control, they would not need to put Enrique Tarrio in prison.

01:48:19.000 They'd simply shut everything up.

01:48:21.000 They'd cut his bank account.

01:48:22.000 They'd destroy his life.

01:48:23.000 They tried all that.

01:48:24.000 It didn't work!

01:48:25.000 The Proud Boys famously got debanked, and Enrique Tarrio continued to do everything he did.

01:48:30.000 It's more like the economic hitman stories.

01:48:33.000 You know, first they say, join us.

01:48:35.000 Then they say, well, we're going to pay you off.

01:48:36.000 Then they start hurting you, and then they come in and remove you.

01:48:40.000 But what's happening now with these cultural victories across the board, I mean come on man, look at Rumble.

01:48:45.000 The expansion that they've had.

01:48:47.000 Look at Public Square.

01:48:50.000 If everything keeps moving in this direction, the old school uniparty machine ceases to exist in a couple generations.

01:48:58.000 Their only options now, after everything else has failed, censorship failed, debanking failed, their only thing left is violence.

01:49:07.000 And even that's not going to work.

01:49:08.000 Do you think that a decentralized form of governance in the United States could compete with the Chinese Communist Centralized Party?

01:49:15.000 Absolutely.

01:49:16.000 Absolutely.

01:49:17.000 I mean, think about it.

01:49:18.000 If this country was that beacon of freedom, that's why everyone wants to be here anyways, even though we're not.

01:49:24.000 Because we are, you know, we do have that, like, one of the things I've thought about this is, is why don't we have an Elon Musk in Latin America?

01:49:33.000 Why is it that only the United States has these people coming here with all these great ideas and starting these great companies?

01:49:39.000 It's that freedom that brings people here.

01:49:41.000 You want the best from around the world to come here.

01:49:44.000 You want the best minds here in the United States.

01:49:47.000 You will beat everybody else.

01:49:49.000 We need that innovation.

01:49:50.000 We want that innovation.

01:49:51.000 We should be welcoming.

01:49:54.000 Feel however you want to feel about immigration.

01:49:56.000 I'm not going to debate it, but if you had a policy where you, hey, all of those people who in Venezuela, Cuba, whatever, that are those great thinkers, that are those great doers, why wouldn't you want them here?

01:50:08.000 They're trying to flee.

01:50:09.000 Why wouldn't you want them here?

01:50:10.000 Why do you want them to go to Russia or to China or anywhere else?

01:50:13.000 You want them here in the United States giving those great ideas.

01:50:16.000 And, you know, yes, I think that a decentralized country could I mean, that is how the United States became the United States.

01:50:22.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:50:23.000 So less federal authority allows for more privatization and wealth gain growth, which makes you more resistant to a foreign nation. 0.97

01:50:33.000 It's actually the wealth of the nation.

01:50:34.000 In my generation, I went from using a telephone on the wall because we had a monopoly with Mabel, and as soon as that government control of it went away, look at us now.

01:50:44.000 We have these little devices in our hands.

01:50:46.000 This is in my generation.

01:50:48.000 So absurd how much government control just keeps us down and we keep asking for more of it.

01:50:54.000 How much innovation and technology would we be at if we didn't have the government stifling us?

01:51:00.000 To open a business, you have to go through all these rigmaroles just to get it started.

01:51:05.000 Why? 0.96

01:51:06.000 It's ridiculous. 0.93

01:51:07.000 Government does not help you in any way, shape, or form. 0.74

01:51:11.000 Some proprietary monopolies can be really destructive.

01:51:16.000 If Google were to try and take over the world right now, Alphabet, we would need our government to help protect us, at least on American soil.

01:51:21.000 take over the world if there is no government making them the only people doing things.

01:51:28.000 Competitors happen all the time.

01:51:29.000 I still use Google, but DuckDuckGo, you have solutions.

01:51:34.000 You cannot have a monopoly where there is a free market.

01:51:38.000 You could have big players in the free market, Kahlou, and kind of monopolize BlackRock,

01:51:42.000 Vanguard, State Street.

01:51:43.000 BlackRock is absolutely using the United States government to get to where they want to be.

01:51:47.000 Do you think they'd be in a worse place without the U.S.

01:51:50.000 government?

01:51:51.000 Of course.

01:51:51.000 Or a stronger place?

01:51:52.000 I mean, it depends on what your worse or better is.

01:51:55.000 I think they're in a position that is not favorable to the people of the United States, and they got there using government.

01:52:01.000 The thing about large corporations is, Ian, for instance, you mentioned MSNBC with a lag.

01:52:07.000 Yeah.

01:52:08.000 They invest ridiculous sums of money into this foundation.

01:52:11.000 They build a machine that's hard to move.

01:52:13.000 As time progresses, their methodologies and technologies become more and more obsolete or archaic, and upstarts, startups, become disruptive and start moving in.

01:52:23.000 What we typically see is the government then create roadblocks to support the jobs by propping up failing industries.

01:52:30.000 So, in not every circumstance, but there are many circumstances where We'd be better off if these systems were allowed to collapse and crumble into themselves.

01:52:40.000 So you have companies that should have failed.

01:52:42.000 The auto industry crumbled from their own errors.

01:52:45.000 You have the banking industry.

01:52:46.000 But then you look at government programs.

01:52:48.000 These things should be better handled by non-profits.

01:52:52.000 I have no problem with social programs.

01:52:54.000 The problem I have is they're not allowed to fail.

01:52:57.000 Once social programs run out, don't work anymore, whenever any program is created, it should have a sunset clause.

01:53:02.000 This is for five years, then it's done.

01:53:04.000 Instead, you get these welfare programs, they keep putting band-aids over and tape over and it keeps making a bigger and bigger system that can't fail and it gets broken and worse and it just infects and it gets... there's problems there.

01:53:14.000 But let's read some more Super Chats. 0.95

01:53:16.000 Gotta read this one from Christy Harris.

01:53:18.000 She says, Ian, I adore you.

01:53:19.000 Please consider Trump was more divisive due to things said about him and not by him.

01:53:24.000 He could not be liked so others Deep State fueled hate.

01:53:27.000 However, he was a clapback master, i.e.

01:53:29.000 Rosie.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:34.000 The flames were fanned.

01:53:35.000 I won't deny that.

01:53:36.000 The media did play a huge part in the back and forth, but so did Don.

01:53:40.000 Telling Hillary Clinton he would have her arrested and thrown in jail while he was campaigning... Yeah, it's way worse that they're actually arresting people and throwing people in jail.

01:53:47.000 I know, but he opened up the gate for... That's my opinion.

01:53:50.000 By saying that on stage, for a power play, it's like, what are you messing with, bro?

01:53:55.000 All right.

01:53:56.000 Mea Culpa 632 says, I invite you and all of the Timcast crew to come to Mountaineer in Martinsburg on Sunday at 2 p.m.

01:54:04.000 for a friendly, dark luck of the draw, building relationships with the local community.

01:54:10.000 Perhaps I will be there.

01:54:11.000 I don't know for sure what we're doing, what the plans are this weekend, but that's the Mountaineer in Martinsburg.

01:54:18.000 We got a bunch of stuff happening in Martinsburg, ladies and gentlemen.

01:54:22.000 I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

01:54:25.000 We were talking about creating Cousin T's, a diner, and Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.

01:54:29.000 I think we should do it in Martinsburg.

01:54:31.000 Who's, uh, who's Pizza Shack?

01:54:33.000 Papa Jack.

01:54:34.000 Jack Posobiec.

01:54:35.000 Oh, okay, right, okay.

01:54:36.000 Papa Jack's Pizza Shack!

01:54:37.000 I'm into it.

01:54:38.000 With a skate park in the back.

01:54:39.000 I'm into it.

01:54:40.000 Oh! 0.60

01:54:40.000 That's right. 0.60

01:54:41.000 Bring the whole family.

01:54:42.000 Skate and then eat.

01:54:42.000 You know what I'm thinking would be super cool?

01:54:44.000 An anti-Times Square.

01:54:48.000 We create our businesses.

01:54:50.000 We've got our coffee shop.

01:54:51.000 We've got Cousin T's diner.

01:54:52.000 We've got Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.

01:54:54.000 We get a MyPillow brick-and-mortar store.

01:54:56.000 Just take over a whole, like, intersection.

01:54:59.000 Just a street in a downtown area with all of these businesses that are the parallel economy.

01:55:04.000 We have a bar that the bar serves ultra-right, you know, conservative dad's ultra-right beer.

01:55:10.000 I want to call- People will travel to come hang out and be a part of this cultural hub.

01:55:13.000 Oh yeah, they would totally travel.

01:55:15.000 We gotta do this.

01:55:15.000 I was thinking like, anti-times, it was and times, but this didn't work.

01:55:19.000 And times square?

01:55:20.000 Times circle?

01:55:21.000 Doesn't look good in writing.

01:55:23.000 But we don't call it anti-times square, but that's the general idea of what it is.

01:55:26.000 How cool would that be?

01:55:28.000 And then, the thing about Martinsburg is that it's a couple hours from a bunch of different metros.

01:55:32.000 Pittsburgh, Philadelphia's a few hours away, you got D.C., Baltimore, Richmond is a few hours away.

01:55:36.000 Freedom Square.

01:55:39.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 Freedom.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, freedom something.

01:55:43.000 I mean, there's a bunch of Freedom Squares all over the place.

01:55:45.000 But how cool would it be?

01:55:47.000 You get a hotel, you come down, and then you can get breakfast at Cousin T's.

01:55:52.000 Disney World for people who like freedom.

01:55:54.000 But like Times Square, because there's no theme parks or anything, but we could put an arcade.

01:55:57.000 You know, be super cool.

01:55:58.000 I mean, you said a skate park.

01:56:00.000 Yeah.

01:56:00.000 Papa Jack's Pizza Shack with skate park in the back.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, don't eat before you skate, eat after you skate.

01:56:06.000 It's not really, the skate park isn't really a part of Papa Jack's Pizza Shack, it's just on the other side of the street, you know what I mean?

01:56:12.000 And it's just fun to say.

01:56:14.000 This is really cool, and then we'll buy the Statue of Lenin and we'll tie it.

01:56:17.000 We'll move it to New Times Square.

01:56:19.000 I love this.

01:56:20.000 We'll put it in the bathroom of New Times Square.

01:56:22.000 Yeah, let's call it New Times Square.

01:56:23.000 Put it in the bathroom, everyone just... Because it's like New Times, but it's also Times Square.

01:56:28.000 I'm willing to bet that there are enough people in this space that would hands down Martinsburg is not super expensive.

01:56:36.000 It's the fastest growing city in West Virginia.

01:56:38.000 They would easily be like, okay, we'll set up, we'll set up a shop there.

01:56:41.000 Why not?

01:56:41.000 I was going to say millions.

01:56:43.000 Millions of people.

01:56:44.000 How about, how about Jeremy Hambly sets up a, a comic, a card shop and a comic shop, gaming and all that stuff.

01:56:52.000 So now we've got the makings of, you know, five different businesses.

01:56:55.000 We got to get a MyPillow brick and mortar store.

01:56:57.000 Super easy to do because the inventory doesn't expire.

01:57:00.000 Isn't Eric July from the, uh, D.C.

01:57:02.000 area too?

01:57:03.000 Is he out here?

01:57:04.000 I'm not sure where he is.

01:57:05.000 That would be sick though.

01:57:06.000 Oh yeah, a comic shop with Eric July would be awesome.

01:57:08.000 Not to throw more stuff on his plate, the guy's going nuts as it is because of all the business he's got, but yeah.

01:57:13.000 But we can figure this out.

01:57:14.000 So we're talking with Chef Andrew Gruel, cause, uh, that was, uh, actually Terrence Williams' idea, and I'm like, that's a good idea.

01:57:22.000 I hit him up right away, and he was like, let's roll.

01:57:24.000 And I'm like, this is gonna be amazing.

01:57:26.000 We're gonna have our own parallel economy and our own cultural hub where we do events, we have comedians.

01:57:32.000 We're gonna have, at our venue, a small stage for comedy and stuff.

01:57:35.000 We have, like, Ryan Log do stand-up.

01:57:36.000 Let's block off the street and have, like, block parties.

01:57:39.000 We could, we could.

01:57:39.000 Like, every Sunday or something.

01:57:41.000 Well, we can't just do that.

01:57:42.000 That's gonna be, like, you know, we gotta talk to the locals.

01:57:45.000 Yeah, yeah, with the city and everything.

01:57:46.000 We could shut it down and do street festivals on Sundays.

01:57:49.000 But I'm thinking, it's, one thing that we can do is with, uh, With our coffee shop and the small stage we have, we could easily get big bands.

01:57:58.000 We could afford to pay them to come out and make this a big attraction.

01:58:00.000 You could play outside on a stage.

01:58:02.000 I don't know of any venues in the West.

01:58:06.000 I don't know where in West Virginia there are venues.

01:58:08.000 I'm sure that there's at least one.

01:58:09.000 I'm not talking 100.

01:58:10.000 I'm not talking 200 people.

01:58:11.000 I'm talking like a 75 person coffee shop acoustic set.

01:58:15.000 Yeah.

01:58:15.000 Secret show style.

01:58:16.000 Sure.

01:58:17.000 Whereas like a small coffee shop normally wouldn't be able to pay major label bands, we could do that for the purpose of bringing people to our space, and then they go get dinner at Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.

01:58:27.000 They get a hotel room next morning, they wake up and they go to Cousin T's Diner.

01:58:30.000 Aw, dude, this would be the coolest thing ever.

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 We gotta make it happen!

01:58:34.000 We need to build a hotel there, too.

01:58:35.000 There are hotels there.

01:58:36.000 Do you guys know anybody at the Hilton?

01:58:39.000 I think this would be just good for everybody.

01:58:41.000 I wonder what the people there... So, what I do know is that locals Because we're working there already, and we've had a bunch of people ask us, like, can you please invest and help build this stuff up?

01:58:53.000 And I think it'd be really cool if we brought all these parallel economy businesses and brought them in.

01:58:59.000 We could probably just go down the list of Public Square and be like, if you're a company on Public Square, how would you like to, let's do this!

01:59:05.000 This would be super cool.

01:59:08.000 Well, we're gonna be doing it at the very least.

01:59:09.000 We're gonna be, uh, I've been talking to Jack Posobiec about a family pizza chain for a long time because, you know, his big thing is Pizza Hut nationalism.

01:59:17.000 Family pizza restaurant.

01:59:18.000 But, but it's like, he brings a good point, like, there's this viral video of 1989 of Pizza Hut, and it was a bunch of people coming and having a birthday party, and it's like, when do we do this anymore?

01:59:29.000 I know!

01:59:30.000 Pizza Hut now is a strip mall small store that does delivery only.

01:59:35.000 Now we need places where people come together.

01:59:38.000 I look at GameStop and I went to GameStop the other day and I'm like, dude, this is the wrong business model.

01:59:44.000 GameStop needs to dedicate a third of its store to competitions, community events, and

01:59:52.000 tabletop games.

01:59:53.000 GameStop should be a place where you could...

01:59:55.000 It should be the big chain for tabletop games and video game competitions.

02:00:01.000 You should be able to...

02:00:02.000 Like, why is it...

02:00:03.000 Why do you need the product?

02:00:05.000 Why do you need the best controller?

02:00:06.000 Why do you need the best headset?

02:00:08.000 Oh, bro, because the Insert Video Game competition is going to be held at your local GameStop Friday night, and you can win 50 bucks in store credit, or you can go to nationals, or you can get into these leagues or whatever.

02:00:20.000 If you're playing video games, esports competitively, what's your local hub?

02:00:25.000 GameStop could do that.

02:00:26.000 I've been saying that for years, but that's just me.

02:00:28.000 What do you think for Jack's Pizza Shack?

02:00:30.000 Papa Jack's.

02:00:31.000 What do you think about Daddy Jack's Pizza Shack?

02:00:35.000 I think Papa Jack's Pizza Shack works better.

02:00:36.000 It's a bit more alliterative.

02:00:37.000 And Daddy's kind of sexual, so I get it.

02:00:40.000 But Papa's already used for Papa John.

02:00:43.000 I think Daddy is only sexual in certain contexts because I've heard the word Daddy a whole lot where it was totally not sexual.

02:00:53.000 Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack.

02:00:54.000 Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack?

02:00:55.000 Well, I don't want to derail.

02:00:57.000 Papa Jack's is kind of like Papa Jack's.

02:01:00.000 Papa Jack's.

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