Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Elon Musk Tells Advertisers GO EFF YOURSELVES, Calls Boycott BLACKMAIL w-Jack Posobiec

00:00:00.000 Elon Musk was speaking at a New York Times event and he was asked about advertisers and

00:00:12.000 the boycott and he said, go F yourselves.

00:00:15.000 And we're gonna play that video for you.

00:00:16.000 He said, anybody who wants to try blackmailing me with money, go F yourselves, in a powerful statement.

00:00:21.000 He goes on to talk about his motivations, and he makes really great points.

00:00:25.000 There are these companies that pretend to do good while doing evil, just so they can earn those ESG scores, whereas he sees what he's working on as genuinely doing good, but being attacked relentlessly.

00:00:35.000 I agree.

00:00:36.000 We got more news, too.

00:00:37.000 This morning, Rumble announced a lawsuit against a group of activists that target conservative media, or just in general, politics and media platforms they don't like, and tried to get their ads pulled.

00:00:49.000 Chris Pawlowski, the CEO, said, the cavalry is here, announcing this lawsuit.

00:00:54.000 And, well, the rumor is there's going to be many, many more lawsuits.

00:00:57.000 And before the show, I saw a very, very interesting story.

00:01:02.000 UFOs.

00:01:04.000 And you know what that means?

00:01:05.000 Hunter Biden's in the news again, because apparently they found these erratic payments from what, where was it from?

00:01:11.000 Like from China or something?

00:01:13.000 Yeah, from China in 2018.

00:01:14.000 From China in 2018.

00:01:14.000 No, but literally, literally, so, all right, all right, breaking KFAP here a little bit.

00:01:17.000 So Tim was going through show prep, looking at headlines, looking at headlines going, all right, what are we going to talk about?

00:01:23.000 Like, you know, he works out his segments, he's got the titles, you know, pre-planned for tomorrow, whatever.

00:01:27.000 And then he goes, oh look, UFOs, there must be some Hunter Biden news just dropping.

00:01:31.000 And then Libby's sitting there going, wait, there just was Hunter Biden news.

00:01:35.000 And you didn't know that.

00:01:36.000 She's like, no, the Hunter Biden story from earlier.

00:01:38.000 And I was like, what?

00:01:39.000 And you're like, 20 minutes ago, the Hunter Biden story about the payments.

00:01:41.000 And I was like, no.

00:01:43.000 So that's the news.

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00:02:58.000 Joining us tonight, as you already know, we got Jack and Libby.

00:03:00.000 Jack, what up?

00:03:02.000 Jack Posobiec here from Human Events, and I just gotta say, man, I really agree with Elon Musk, his statement just there.

00:03:09.000 You cannot blackmail me for money.

00:03:12.000 And if you want to try to blackmail me for money, then... You know, how much are we talking?

00:03:16.000 Like, I think maybe, you know, let's chat, let's chat.

00:03:20.000 I don't quite have Elon money, so give me a call.

00:03:21.000 Like a million dollars.

00:03:23.000 I mean, a billion.

00:03:25.000 Well, we'll get into that.

00:03:26.000 I've got a lot to say about this.

00:03:28.000 I could do a lot of free speech for a billion dollars, Tim.

00:03:30.000 I'm just saying.

00:03:31.000 That's true, that's true.

00:03:32.000 Buy you a lot of pillows, you know?

00:03:33.000 Tons.

00:03:33.000 Buy you a lot of pillows from MyPillow.com.

00:03:37.000 Have you completed your MyPillow Christmas order yet?

00:03:39.000 I just have a quick question.

00:03:40.000 Have you taken advantage of the Christmas sale?

00:03:44.000 I've been checking.

00:03:45.000 I've been looking over your shoulder.

00:03:46.000 I've been keeping an eye on everything that you're doing there, Hannah.

00:03:48.000 Have you completed your Christmas order?

00:03:50.000 There's a lot of intense staring happening right now.

00:03:52.000 I'm just going to look their way.

00:03:54.000 Wait, what was that?

00:03:55.000 MyPillow.com, Bruno Caposo.

00:03:56.000 I don't know who Hannah is.

00:03:58.000 I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow.

00:03:59.000 I'm a writer for Scanner.

00:04:02.000 I'm not used to saying it yet.

00:04:03.000 Well, it's not formally TimCast News.

00:04:05.000 It's still kind of TimCast News.

00:04:06.000 SCNR's been around longer than TimCast News.

00:04:08.000 Well, but I was with TimCast News first.

00:04:09.000 I was formerly with TimCast News, and now I'm with Scanner.

00:04:12.000 And you were fired.

00:04:13.000 Yeah, Tim fired me, then rehired me in the quickest chain of successions.

00:04:16.000 It was a lot.

00:04:16.000 It was a very traumatic day.

00:04:17.000 Yeah, SCNR.com's been around for a while.

00:04:20.000 Do we call it SCNR instead of Scanner?

00:04:22.000 SCNR or Scanner, whatever you want to call it.

00:04:23.000 I like Scanner.

00:04:24.000 But it's like, if people are trying to look for the website, scnr.com, it's getting off the ground.

00:04:28.000 We've got a lot of plans for it.

00:04:29.000 There's other people involved.

00:04:30.000 We have, this one actually is from several years ago, overcoming some legal challenges, but it's back.

00:04:35.000 It is back.

00:04:36.000 Articles are starting to populate.

00:04:37.000 And Shane Cashman wrote this crazy article about going with these pedo... He sent me that, yeah.

00:04:43.000 It's a wild story.

00:04:45.000 Yeah, it's really wild.

00:04:46.000 But yes, Hannah Clare is also a writer for Scanner.

00:04:47.000 Yes, I am a writer for Scanner, which is new to me, but not new to everyone.

00:04:50.000 And Tim Casper and Libby's here.

00:04:52.000 Hey, I'm Libby Emmons.

00:04:53.000 I am with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com.

00:04:56.000 And I just want to say, I think they're doing some kind of manhunt around the property.

00:05:00.000 I'm wondering what it is.

00:05:01.000 It's all over.

00:05:02.000 There's like a helicopter flying at like 50 feet.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, so I thought it was a lawnmower fan.

00:05:07.000 And it seemed to be going, so you know what they're doing there?

00:05:10.000 That's, you know, it's, it's flying, it's flying in circles.

00:05:13.000 No, they've got, no, it's, it's concentric circles there.

00:05:16.000 If, if it is, there is a manhunt.

00:05:18.000 They're either looking for someone or they're doing training as if they're looking for someone.

00:05:21.000 Well, it's awfully close to the ground.

00:05:23.000 It's weird that you have this spin, though.

00:05:25.000 You're saying that they're looking for someone.

00:05:27.000 They're pretending to look for someone.

00:05:28.000 It's definitely not you.

00:05:29.000 You're not on the run.

00:05:30.000 No, no, it's just training.

00:05:31.000 That's just a weather balloon, buddy.

00:05:33.000 Don't worry about that.

00:05:34.000 It's swamp gas.

00:05:35.000 There's a bunch of swamp gas out there.

00:05:36.000 So we got Serge, press the buttons.

00:05:38.000 Yeah, I'm here.

00:05:39.000 Just listening to Jack talk about his operation going on outside.

00:05:42.000 So it'll get quieter, and then it'll get louder, and then it'll get quieter, and then it'll get louder, and then I will find the person who's been using promo code Tanya within this zip code.

00:05:51.000 We tracked it to a single computer.

00:05:53.000 Someone who said they formerly worked for TimCast News now works for something called SCNR.

00:05:58.000 I have no idea who she is, but we will track her down.

00:06:01.000 But Tanya's a great lady.

00:06:02.000 Have you guys met her?

00:06:03.000 She's fantastic.

00:06:04.000 She's alright.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, I'm just gonna say.

00:06:06.000 I like her.

00:06:06.000 I'll keep her.

00:06:07.000 So, promo code Tanya?

00:06:08.000 No, that doesn't exist.

00:06:09.000 That's not a real thing, as a matter of fact.

00:06:11.000 It's a sting operation that's been operating from the start, which you should never do.

00:06:15.000 Let's jump into this first story from scnr.com scanner.

00:06:19.000 What a cool new line. I love it Yeah, Elon Musk on advertisers withdrawing from axe

00:06:23.000 We're getting we're getting off to an early start so earmuffs your kids 1.00

00:06:28.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:06:29.000 Wow, man. 1.00

00:06:30.000 By the way, Tiny, you can probably not have the kids watch.

00:06:33.000 That's a quote.

00:06:35.000 That's a direct quote.

00:06:36.000 That's why I said F in the beginning, because I said we're going to play the video.

00:06:39.000 You need the context.

00:06:40.000 The whole world will know those advertisers that killed the company.

00:06:44.000 This is what I've been saying.

00:06:45.000 I was saying, In 2018, when the adpocalypse happened on YouTube, I said, if Coca-Cola, or insert company, let's say Coca-Cola as an example.

00:06:53.000 I don't know if they boycotted, but let's say they go to YouTube and say, we're going to pull our ads off because of the brand safety issue.

00:06:59.000 YouTube should have said, well, okay, I guess we can give all of your ad space to Pepsi instead.

00:07:03.000 And they would have been like, wait, no, that's really bad for our brand.

00:07:07.000 Yeah, we're going to go give it to your principal, actually RC Cola.

00:07:10.000 RC Cola is getting all of your ad space now, free of charge.

00:07:13.000 Remember Jolt Cola?

00:07:14.000 Can we give it to Jolt Cola?

00:07:15.000 Oh, I love Jolt Cola!

00:07:16.000 Bring it back! 0.99

00:07:17.000 Bring Jolt Cola back!

00:07:18.000 What's the thing that the Insane Clown Posse guys drink?

00:07:21.000 Vago.

00:07:21.000 Yeah, let's put it in that.

00:07:23.000 Let's play this clip.

00:07:24.000 I used to drink Jolt at the South Street Diner.

00:07:26.000 Serge, remember Serge?

00:07:27.000 All right, here we go.

00:07:28.000 Here's the clip.

00:07:29.000 Apology tour, if you will.

00:07:31.000 This had been said online.

00:07:33.000 There was all of the criticism.

00:07:34.000 There was advertisers leaving.

00:07:36.000 We talked to Bob Iger today.

00:07:36.000 I hope they stop.

00:07:38.000 You hope?

00:07:39.000 Don't advertise.

00:07:41.000 You don't want them to advertise?

00:07:42.000 No. 1.00

00:07:46.000 If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:07:52.000 He's like nervous laughter. 1.00

00:07:53.000 Look at Sorkin!

00:07:54.000 Go. 1.00

00:07:57.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:07:57.000 Yourself. 1.00

00:07:59.000 Is he doing it?

00:07:59.000 In case he wasn't clear enough, the first step is... Oh, you calling him out?

00:08:03.000 Hey, Bob.

00:08:04.000 Wow.

00:08:04.000 Because Bob Iger spoke earlier that day.

00:08:07.000 Bob Iger, yeah.

00:08:09.000 I think he's still in the room, actually, when he's saying this.

00:08:12.000 Absolutely amazing.

00:08:16.000 When he's like, I hope they stop.

00:08:18.000 You can actually free advertising.

00:08:19.000 He actually freezes for a second.

00:08:21.000 So.

00:08:22.000 So Andrew Sorge, this is a guy, you know, he's CNBC, but he's kind of like their golden boy.

00:08:27.000 Then he goes on, this is the New York Times Summit.

00:08:29.000 This is like the masters of the universe of Wall Street.

00:08:33.000 They're all there.

00:08:34.000 Elon comes in.

00:08:35.000 This is where Jamie Dimon, I think earlier in the day came out and urged everyone to get behind Nikki Haley.

00:08:40.000 They're like, Hey, let's Let's get the uniparty back together. 0.97

00:08:43.000 You know, let's, let's do it guys.

00:08:44.000 Remember we used to run game before Trump.

00:08:46.000 We're going to do that again.

00:08:47.000 And, and Sorkin was totally done and everyone was fine with that. 0.96

00:08:51.000 Like you can, you can be totally fine by telling people that you want to go on a murderous rampage and invade the Middle East and kill thousands of people. 0.97

00:09:00.000 That's cool. 0.87

00:09:01.000 And, and nobody bats an eye, but if you tell advertisers to F off, then everybody loses.

00:09:07.000 I was gonna say, you can advocate for attacking Russia.

00:09:13.000 Yes, nuclear war. 0.98

00:09:14.000 Nuclear war, but if you say we're going to build a wall on our southern border, well now you're a bigot, racist, and must be stopped. 0.96

00:09:20.000 And there's no way to afford that. 0.50

00:09:21.000 We couldn't possibly afford $3 billion for the wall, even though we're paying, what, $450 billion for all the illegals? 1.00

00:09:28.000 Is it a billion or a million?

00:09:31.000 I think it's a billion.

00:09:32.000 It's actually a billion.

00:09:34.000 I almost can't believe this.

00:09:35.000 You see Chicago, they're building the camps?

00:09:38.000 I love it.

00:09:39.000 With churches?

00:09:40.000 No.

00:09:41.000 No, no, no, no.

00:09:41.000 They have big, empty industrial lots.

00:09:44.000 I'm mixing up stories.

00:09:44.000 In two areas in the south side of Chicago, they're building a brick-and-mortar migrant camp, and then they're also building a tent city.

00:09:52.000 Well, you see, that'll be perfect for once we get in power for the mass deportations to start, because Stephen Miller is going to run up there himself and actually just start shoveling them onto the back of trucks.

00:10:03.000 Alex Jones called this a long time ago.

00:10:06.000 It's wild.

00:10:08.000 Look, the left is far more willing to use government power against any target than the right is.

00:10:17.000 The right is terrified of wielding power.

00:10:19.000 The left has no problem whatsoever.

00:10:21.000 Yeah, well that's right because the left is, that's what they decided governance is.

00:10:25.000 They decided governance is using the government to suppress the American people and that's their plan.

00:10:30.000 Right, the only difference is they'd want to put us in there.

00:10:32.000 So going back to the Elon story, I don't know if this was a response, but there's a quote from Bob Iger.

00:10:37.000 I have a lot of respect for Elon and what he has accomplished, said Iger.

00:10:40.000 We know that Elon is larger than life in many respects, and that his name is very much connected to the companies he founded or owns.

00:10:47.000 By him taking the position he took in a public manner, we felt that the association was not necessarily a positive one for us.

00:10:52.000 And I'm gonna go ahead and say they're lying.

00:10:54.000 It's not a response, he said it prior.

00:10:56.000 He said it probably right.

00:10:57.000 And he's lying because... So that's why he said, hi, Bob.

00:11:00.000 Right.

00:11:01.000 They wrote to their shareholders.

00:11:05.000 Iger is Disney, right?

00:11:06.000 Bob Iger, yeah.

00:11:08.000 They wrote that they know that their views are misaligned with the public.

00:11:12.000 Internally.

00:11:13.000 To shareholders, to investors.

00:11:15.000 So they know that they're on the wrong side of all of this and they're losing money because of it.

00:11:20.000 Well, and that movie Wish just totally flopped at the box office.

00:11:24.000 Pure communism.

00:11:28.000 The Marvels was the other one.

00:11:29.000 Just absolute flop.

00:11:30.000 And the books aren't doing well either.

00:11:31.000 So the actress formerly known as Paige, that book totally flopped after getting a massive advance from publishers.

00:11:42.000 Jemele Hill's book totally flopped after getting a massive advance.

00:11:45.000 They sold like a couple thousand copies. 1.00

00:11:47.000 There's just no market for this crap. 0.99

00:11:48.000 But what's wild is... 0.99

00:11:50.000 They, they sold out, what was it, a six-month supply of Michael Knowles' cigars in 24 hours.

00:11:55.000 Oh, in 24 hours, yeah.

00:11:56.000 And he was like, the supplier assured us, this is six months, trust us.

00:12:01.000 And he's like, okay, and then 24 hours, it's gone.

00:12:03.000 That's crazy.

00:12:04.000 And then we wonder why the book about queering the Western did not take off.

00:12:10.000 It was a queer Western. 0.97

00:12:11.000 Ah.

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:12.000 Because that's what people are looking for.

00:12:14.000 No one wanted to read it.

00:12:15.000 These all had hefty advances.

00:12:17.000 It's not just like Wish or the Marvels.

00:12:18.000 Remember Strange World or whatever it was called?

00:12:21.000 Like the whole plot was like a diverse group of people with a bunch of different identities or whatever.

00:12:25.000 Are you really gonna have to narrow it down?

00:12:28.000 Are they going to Space Quest and Crash?

00:12:30.000 That's literally everything now, Tim.

00:12:31.000 I've got no idea.

00:12:33.000 I'm not going to watch any of that stuff.

00:12:34.000 A diverse group of friends, that's how every single movie pitch starts right now.

00:12:38.000 What absolutely is wild, we talked about this with Jeremy Boring the other day, is that two weeks after Daily Wire announces they're Snow White, Disney releases a photo of Rachel Ziegler in the original Snow White costume with dwarves around, or with the original seven dwarves.

00:12:54.000 We saw the photos of the seven companions.

00:12:57.000 I guess they're going to fire all those actors?

00:13:00.000 Just they're all gone now?

00:13:03.000 On the face of it, wouldn't it have been really cool if they had got Peter Dinklage and had him play all seven of the shows?

00:13:09.000 But he was the one who said no!

00:13:10.000 Wasn't he the one who was like, no, you can't hire him.

00:13:13.000 And then there were a lot of other people who were like, you are limiting us.

00:13:17.000 We don't care about this.

00:13:18.000 We would love to be cast in these roles.

00:13:19.000 Wouldn't that have been hilarious to have him in, you know, and he's got like a different beard or a different hair, a different hat.

00:13:26.000 I don't know.

00:13:26.000 That would just be good.

00:13:27.000 And I don't think anyone would be making fun of you.

00:13:29.000 It's because these are iconic characters.

00:13:31.000 Exactly.

00:13:32.000 So mythical dwarves are forged from the stone inside of mountains. 0.96

00:13:37.000 Yes.

00:13:38.000 Like, we're not insulting you, bro.

00:13:40.000 It's like a mythical character.

00:13:42.000 And the women have beards. 0.97

00:13:44.000 Female dwarves have beards. 1.00

00:13:46.000 It's like a mythical thing.

00:13:48.000 There's a lot of politicians who have beards, too.

00:13:50.000 That's true.

00:13:51.000 That is absolutely correct.

00:13:52.000 But, you know, he takes it personally.

00:13:55.000 I don't know.

00:13:55.000 I'm wondering, though, where is he going to get the money for operating this platform that we all like?

00:14:01.000 I mean, this is what Elon was kind of saying, which is that the business will fail and everyone will closely document which companies pulled out and allowed Twitter to fail.

00:14:11.000 And Sorkin kind of stutters and is like, no, no, the advertisers are going to say, you said those things and they couldn't be on the platform anymore.

00:14:18.000 And that's why they pulled out.

00:14:21.000 And Musk responds, we'll see how Earth responds to that. 0.92

00:14:24.000 Because, ultimately, if the advertisers aren't ruining something the public wants, like Twitter, I mean, there are a lot of Twitter competitors or ex-competitors out there, but nothing succeeded in replacing them.

00:14:36.000 And so people will know who pulled out and wanted to ruin it. 0.97

00:14:39.000 Threads sucks. 1.00

00:14:40.000 Elon needs to reach out to Anheuser-Busch. 0.99

00:14:43.000 And go for Bud Light.

00:14:44.000 I'm a big Bud Light fan, by the way.

00:14:46.000 Bud Light's the go-to beer.

00:14:51.000 Because they basically totally reversed course in the exact opposite direction by doing this.

00:14:57.000 So now you have Sean Strickland saying things I can't repeat on YouTube.

00:15:01.000 And they're subsidizing it.

00:15:03.000 And they're subsidizing it.

00:15:03.000 So I'm like, okay, let's push that.

00:15:06.000 Let's have that be the narrative.

00:15:08.000 Plus, who doesn't love a good redemption story?

00:15:10.000 Yeah, I feel like I'm holding out.

00:15:12.000 They need a little bit more redemption from them, but it's a step in the right direction.

00:15:15.000 But if every company that did some woke BS flipped and started sponsoring people we liked, we have to accept that as a win.

00:15:22.000 You're not going to get rid of Anheuser-Busch.

00:15:27.000 The company's just too powerful to ever stop existing.

00:15:33.000 We talked about this on ThoughtCrime with the show I do with Charlie, You know, it's sort of like, at what point do you stop beating, right?

00:15:39.000 You stop beating until they correct the behavior.

00:15:41.000 So if they've overcorrected in the other behavior, then they're okay.

00:15:45.000 Now we have to- now, so Absolute Vodka, I think, Libby, you were- you were tweeting about this.

00:15:49.000 Like, they're- they've gone 10 times worse than anything that Bud Light ever did.

00:15:54.000 Well, no more Absolute Vodka.

00:15:55.000 We- what do we have?

00:15:56.000 We have- our stuff's from Russia.

00:15:57.000 Tim's cutting himself off.

00:15:58.000 Cutting off? 1.00

00:15:59.000 We never bought that crap. 1.00

00:16:00.000 We buy- our stuff's from Russia. 0.99

00:16:02.000 The real stuff.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, real stuff.

00:16:03.000 Vodka.

00:16:04.000 Exactly.

00:16:05.000 The real vodka.

00:16:05.000 That's how you do it.

00:16:06.000 This is what you do.

00:16:07.000 I thought it was funny too.

00:16:08.000 Cure COVID with vodka.

00:16:09.000 We bought it at like the peak of the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

00:16:13.000 And then the guy at the liquor store is like, that's from Russia.

00:16:15.000 And I'm like, I'll take three.

00:16:17.000 I never saw it again.

00:16:18.000 I mean, legend says that Russia has the good vodka.

00:16:22.000 No one's actually had any, I'm pretty sure.

00:16:24.000 Really?

00:16:24.000 Like, we have Grey Goose, too, in the liquor cabinet.

00:16:27.000 If they turn you to beer, Tim's gonna come in with like a Z on his... I used to buy Zhelka vodka from this liquor store called KGB Liquors on Essex Street in Manhattan.

00:16:37.000 Oh, wow.

00:16:37.000 Everybody drinks scotch.

00:16:39.000 You're like, someone comes in and they're like, I'll have a drink.

00:16:41.000 They're going for some kind of like a scotch or a bourbon.

00:16:44.000 Nobody touches the tequila or the vodka.

00:16:46.000 One of those like college party drinks, I guess.

00:16:48.000 I'm like, we got good stuff.

00:16:49.000 We'll take care of our guests.

00:16:50.000 I think scotch would just savor a little bit more.

00:16:52.000 I guess.

00:16:53.000 The best thing ever, shout out to Max Blumenthal, he went right for the malort.

00:16:57.000 And he was like, oh, malort. 0.90

00:16:58.000 And I was like, are you joking?

00:17:00.000 He was like, no, I love this stuff.

00:17:02.000 And I was like, oh, wow.

00:17:03.000 For those that don't know, it's a Chicago thing.

00:17:05.000 I would say though, what Elon has done here, He has declared a new meme war.

00:17:12.000 He has declared meme jihad on any advertiser that's come.

00:17:17.000 That's what he's done.

00:17:18.000 He's gone to the heart of Wall Street, right?

00:17:22.000 And he has now declared war on any business that doesn't advertise on, or I should say that pulled out of X over this.

00:17:30.000 So to all the meme warriors out there, to the edgelords, to the posters, this is your call.

00:17:38.000 The banners have been called, the beacons have been lit!

00:17:43.000 Meme jihad on all of them. 0.96

00:17:44.000 I want all of you, sitting at home, in front of your computers, with paintbrush on your taskbar, pinned.

00:17:51.000 To crack that open and make the memes.

00:17:53.000 And when you post that meme, I want to imagine that you are Gandalf on top of that hill at the Battle of Helm's Deep with the Riders of Rohan storming in.

00:18:02.000 How did you know that I have it pinned?

00:18:03.000 I'm not even joking.

00:18:05.000 Paintbrush.

00:18:06.000 You know, I literally was hitting up my boy Still Boneless the other day because they changed MS Paint to like a new version.

00:18:12.000 Yeah.

00:18:13.000 And all the like original format is off.

00:18:15.000 And I was like, no, no, it's not working.

00:18:17.000 They're trying to thwart this.

00:18:19.000 They're trying to stop the meme.

00:18:20.000 Yeah.

00:18:20.000 They're trying to stop the meme war.

00:18:21.000 Preemptive strike.

00:18:22.000 So you can, you can, you can like down convert it and there's a way and Boneless figured it out.

00:18:27.000 So I mean, OG MS Paint is like, For making the memes.

00:18:32.000 All of the drawings of characters in the memes are drawn, you know, haphazardly through MS Paint.

00:18:38.000 We don't need improvements.

00:18:39.000 No.

00:18:39.000 Get out of here with that.

00:18:41.000 Like the original always has been the two astronauts meme.

00:18:43.000 That's very famously like a really crude MS Paint meme.

00:18:48.000 Like the original, original one.

00:18:50.000 This was my pitch to Elon, and he's like, sort of there.

00:18:54.000 I was saying he should anti-advertise.

00:18:56.000 Perhaps it's as simple as what Jack is saying.

00:18:59.000 We should just start memeing all these companies and insulting them.

00:19:02.000 Meme jihad. 0.75

00:19:04.000 Yes?

00:19:05.000 Meme crusade?

00:19:07.000 Well, Davey's Vault, baby.

00:19:10.000 Look, Disney.

00:19:14.000 Who do they think they are?

00:19:16.000 Like, they made Mulan and thanked the security forces running the concentration camps, the Uyghur concentration camps in China, and they're gonna get on their high horse and insult X?

00:19:26.000 It's purely political.

00:19:28.000 Spare me your nonsense. 0.69

00:19:29.000 You don't care what Elon Musk said. 1.00

00:19:31.000 You're playing dirty games because you're crackpot weirdos, but I'll tell you this. 0.88

00:19:35.000 When Disney put out that statement about how they're losing, they mentioned their goals towards the environment and social change. 0.96

00:19:43.000 Quite literally, they're saying ESG has screwed us over and is costing all of you money.

00:19:49.000 Because at the end of the day, right, ESG only existed, this environmental sustainability government.

00:19:58.000 Scheme was it was all about a stock scheme, right?

00:20:01.000 It was never anything that had to do with making a good product So the idea was that if you had a good ESG score that you would score bigger capital with like Blackrock and Blackstone State Street, etc So they would come in and they would capitalize you and then your stock would go your stock would rise and then also you would just gain more access to more capital markets more American capital markets through that and And so again, Nick, you wanted a better score.

00:20:24.000 So this is your question.

00:20:25.000 Famously, by the way, they screwed over Elon Musk for Tesla because they gave them a low ESG score.

00:20:31.000 And he's like, I'm literally the only guy in the world who founded a company just to do electric cars.

00:20:38.000 How could this is the definition of ESG?

00:20:41.000 Right.

00:20:41.000 And they got hit on diversity.

00:20:43.000 It's the definition of environmentally friendly.

00:20:45.000 I'm an African immigrant who started an electric car company.

00:20:47.000 What are What are you talking about?

00:20:48.000 How could I possibly have a negative score?

00:20:51.000 And they hit him on diversity because he had too many white males.

00:20:53.000 And so, he's declaring his internal jihad against it, but there's a lot of people now looking at it saying,

00:21:00.000 look, we realize that this has gone way too far because initially it was just supposed to get your score up

00:21:06.000 to help with the stock, but then it just slowly dominated those entire companies.

00:21:12.000 It dominated their entire workforce.

00:21:14.000 Obviously with Netflix, we know it's, it's turned into a meme.

00:21:17.000 It's turned into a meme with Netflix where they're kind of like leaning into it now and they're making like, like, like the general Hannibal is going to be black.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:25.000 Which is Denzel Washington.

00:21:27.000 Wow.

00:21:27.000 He's a great actor.

00:21:28.000 Like, we all love Denzel, right?

00:21:29.000 I don't think there's really any Denzel attractors out there, but... But the argument is that he's from Northern Africa, and even though it's Africa, he's not like a black African. 0.60

00:21:37.000 I don't have a big problem with Idris Elba playing... 007?

00:21:43.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:21:44.000 In Thor.

00:21:47.000 Oh, oh.

00:21:48.000 Uh, the watch guy, the guy with the eyes.

00:21:49.000 Nah.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

00:21:50.000 No, me neither.

00:21:50.000 It's like an actual like yeah, I know you're Norse mythological God or whatever and I'm like I don't have that

00:21:55.000 I don't have a big issue with like anyone playing any mythological.

00:21:58.000 No me neither. Yeah But if it's like a historical figure historical figures are

00:22:02.000 worse I will say, even with mythical stuff, like, there are lots of cultures that have myths.

00:22:07.000 Why don't we just have new ideas?

00:22:09.000 Why don't we do new things?

00:22:10.000 Like, this is what bothered me about the Little Mermaid thing, and Disney pays for this, right?

00:22:15.000 They decide that they don't see enough diversity, and rather than saying, like, well, what cultures do we want to see diversity from, and what stories can we steal from them?

00:22:24.000 Instead, they're like, Hans Christian Andersen, we're doing it again, except we've just changed the skin tones. 0.95

00:22:28.000 And that feels so cheap and gross that I think, ultimately, it's collapsing around them.

00:22:31.000 It's the same thing when they're making these Teenie Bopper remakes of stuff, you know, what was it?

00:22:37.000 They had one like on Robin Hood except it was going to be a girl and it said the inner city and ultimately I don't even know if it ever got made because people don't like it.

00:22:45.000 It's transparent, it's cheap, it doesn't engage them intellectually, it's not really a form of art, it's barely a form of entertainment.

00:22:55.000 But they're not just changing the skin tone, right?

00:22:57.000 I mean, if you're just changing skin tone, that's one thing.

00:22:59.000 But you're also not just swapping gender when you do that kind of thing.

00:23:04.000 What you're doing is taking stories that have meaning, that have a place in culture, and transforming them into something that is meaningless and empty and dead.

00:23:15.000 So you're taking living stories and living narratives and you're just killing them.

00:23:20.000 I mean, that was the thing about Snow White, right?

00:23:24.000 Is this real, Tim?

00:23:26.000 I just saw a tweet.

00:23:27.000 The New York Times just deleted the Dealbook Summit with Elon from their YouTube channel. 1.00

00:23:31.000 No shit! 0.99

00:23:32.000 What? 1.00

00:23:32.000 Oh, excuse me. 1.00

00:23:33.000 What happened?

00:23:34.000 It says, yeah, just before the show, so obviously what this clip is from.

00:23:38.000 I don't know how we track that.

00:23:40.000 If the video's not there, the video's not there.

00:23:41.000 How do we know it was ever there?

00:23:42.000 Maybe it has been archived?

00:23:45.000 No, but someone has a link back to it from New York Times, underneath the New York Times events.

00:23:51.000 There's stuff with Elon up.

00:23:51.000 No, no, the Elon stuff is up.

00:23:53.000 Oh, it's CNBC has clips of it.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, so I'm saying there's clips of it still out, but apparently the whole thing was being, according to the tweet from Adrien Ditman, they're saying the New York Times took down the full event from New York Times events.

00:24:09.000 Interesting.

00:24:10.000 I'm going to stop right there.

00:24:11.000 You know what probably happens is when you can set live shows to not be public after they're done.

00:24:17.000 That may have just been the case.

00:24:18.000 This video has been removed by the uploader.

00:24:21.000 Yeah.

00:24:21.000 That's what it would say.

00:24:22.000 I'm pretty sure that when you're setting a live stream, you can set them so that after they're done, they don't appear as videos on your channel.

00:24:31.000 And it would say it's removed.

00:24:33.000 It doesn't look like they have anything from Dealbook Summit up.

00:24:37.000 I don't know.

00:24:37.000 Like, the clips that were pulled, they were pulled while the show was still live.

00:24:40.000 I mean, yeah, you can't stop the clips.

00:24:42.000 Clips are out.

00:24:44.000 But why would you pull it?

00:24:46.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure they may have just made it to the show, went private as soon as it was done being live.

00:24:56.000 That's a common thing.

00:24:58.000 Maybe?

00:24:59.000 I don't know.

00:24:59.000 I'm just saying, before I say anything, I'd like to know for sure exactly what happened.

00:25:03.000 Sure.

00:25:05.000 If it was, the livestream was done, and it was on their channel, and you could watch the archive, and now it's been deleted, that means they went and actually removed it.

00:25:16.000 I mean, they've got a bunch of other livestreams up.

00:25:18.000 But I don't know why they would even do that, because... Yeah, but what are they from?

00:25:22.000 One's from eight hours ago, one's from... Was it an event, or what is it?

00:25:27.000 Some are events, some are interviews, some are just different things.

00:25:30.000 Yeah, maybe, maybe.

00:25:31.000 I don't know.

00:25:32.000 Perhaps that is the case.

00:25:33.000 Well, shall we talk about the war for your minds?

00:25:37.000 We got the story from Scanner at CNR.com.

00:25:40.000 Rumble files lawsuit against media watchdog group.

00:25:43.000 When anti-free speech zealots lie to inflict intentional economic harm on our company, we have no choice but to hold them accountable.

00:25:51.000 Video streaming platform Rumble has filed a federal defamation suit against two co-founders of a media watchdog group.

00:25:57.000 I don't think it's fair to call them a media watchdog group.

00:25:59.000 That's their language.

00:25:59.000 Who wrote this story?

00:26:01.000 This is Chris Bartman.

00:26:02.000 Chris Bartman.

00:26:03.000 See, he's doing the right thing in trying to be honest and fair in labeling the group what you would assume them to be.

00:26:10.000 If you understand what this group does, I would not call them a media watchdog group.

00:26:15.000 I wouldn't either.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, lying about people and trying to engage in tortious interference is not media watchdog.

00:26:26.000 Maybe leftist or liberal political activism is probably fair to say, but just real quick to get to the opening context here.

00:26:34.000 Rumble is suing these individuals because they claimed that Rumble receives 90% of its funding through Google ads or something to that effect and that's not true.

00:26:44.000 Rumble says this is completely false and they actually told them this is not true and it's damaging to their brand because Rumble Their business is, we are independent from big tech.

00:26:54.000 So they said, they know it's not true, they won't take it down, we're suing them for defamation.

00:26:59.000 Which means, either these people knowingly posted lies, and considering they've been informed it's not true, that it seems that may be the case, or they have just reckless disregard for the truth.

00:27:10.000 But these groups, these individuals, have gone after Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, I'm pretty sure they go after you, right Jack?

00:27:17.000 Well, they go after post-mortem human events.

00:27:18.000 They sure do.

00:27:20.000 Do they have you listed as their insurrectionists?

00:27:23.000 I'm on the list.

00:27:24.000 I'd have to look.

00:27:25.000 They came after us because of our work with Andy.

00:27:28.000 It's usually about Andy.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, they basically got Antifa to go after our advertisers and take us down.

00:27:35.000 Oh, no, you didn't make the list.

00:27:36.000 Sorry, Jack.

00:27:37.000 It's Dan Bongino, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson.

00:27:40.000 We got Glenn Beck, Steve Bannon, and me.

00:27:44.000 I reached out at one point.

00:27:45.000 And I don't even know why I'm on there!

00:27:46.000 Wait, scroll down a little bit.

00:27:47.000 It's just, it's wild.

00:27:49.000 What are you looking for?

00:27:50.000 Well, because it's talking about the January 5th show of War Room, because I was sitting next to Steve on that show.

00:27:54.000 He didn't make the cut!

00:27:56.000 I'm like, why am I on this list?

00:27:58.000 I will try harder during the next insurrection, I promise.

00:28:01.000 They argue that I'm one of the biggest proponents of the big lie.

00:28:04.000 And the big lie is defined as Donald Trump claiming he actually won 2020.

00:28:08.000 And I've always maintained that... I've never heard you say that.

00:28:12.000 I argued with Bannon that no!

00:28:13.000 Like twice!

00:28:16.000 So, uh... Like, you guys went at it in the third hour, too.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, my position was like, dude, people keep saying Biden can't get 85 million votes, and I'm like, you're correct.

00:28:25.000 Trump got anti-vote.

00:28:27.000 Like, people weren't voting for Biden.

00:28:29.000 Don't think that.

00:28:30.000 But I think what we saw was procedural... But they were issued those ballots.

00:28:36.000 I don't know about that.

00:28:38.000 What I will say is, if you operate under the assumption that fraud is the reason you lost, you'll lose again.

00:28:44.000 If you operate under the assumption that Democrats were changing rules in ways that greatly benefited them, and they did, you will win.

00:28:52.000 For one, we saw in Georgia, Republicans lost the Senate race because there were people who were like, what's the point of voting anyway?

00:28:59.000 They're gonna steal it.

00:29:00.000 No, no, we can't have that mentality.

00:29:01.000 But anyway, without getting into all that stuff, because we don't need to, The fact that they are arguing I made these claims.

00:29:07.000 Now you totally get why they're being sued by Rumble, okay?

00:29:10.000 This is not a media watchdog group.

00:29:12.000 They're outright lying!

00:29:14.000 I actually reached out to one of the board members in 2021 when they were targeting Post Millennial and we were losing ad revenue and it was not a pleasant moment.

00:29:25.000 You actually lost ad revenue?

00:29:26.000 Yeah.

00:29:26.000 Because of them?

00:29:27.000 Yeah.

00:29:27.000 How?

00:29:29.000 Because they went after our advertisers and our advertisers refused to advertise on the platform.

00:29:33.000 Wow.

00:29:33.000 Because if an advertiser sees that this is valid, they present themselves as... I asked them about it.

00:29:38.000 I asked one of the board members about it directly and she responded and she said, As to advertisers being intimidated into dropping you, advertisers are not so easily scared.

00:29:50.000 If they drop you, it seems worthwhile to look at why and make your choices about what or what not to do about it.

00:29:58.000 And she later said, you know, Keep your eye on the prize.

00:30:03.000 What is so important is to consider why would an advertiser drop a publisher they think worthy of support they wouldn't.

00:30:10.000 So she ended up saying, you know, basically that publishers make these decisions and the people who, where they advertise, like post-millennial, should make different decisions in order to keep the advertisers.

00:30:24.000 Yeah.

00:30:24.000 So it is an intimidation thing.

00:30:26.000 For sure.

00:30:26.000 I mean, if they admitted it, and they also said in part that their goal is to destroy the ad tech business entirely.

00:30:33.000 Yeah.

00:30:34.000 I mean, if they are not open about what their political leanings are, then, or even if they are, they can still be accepted as a mainstream reference, right?

00:30:43.000 You'll have things all the time that are saying, Oh, you're on the SPLC's list of whatever, and so we can't trust your opinion.

00:30:48.000 You're on this group's thing, so we can't advertise with you.

00:30:51.000 These lists are created so that they become taken as, you know, as gospel.

00:30:55.000 Never trust any, you know, conservative that doesn't get ended up on one of these lists or doesn't get attacked by any of these people.

00:31:02.000 I want to ever trust them.

00:31:03.000 I want to pull up this post from them so you can understand this is what Rumble is doing.

00:31:07.000 They tweeted, in case you're wondering where Tim Poole's been.

00:31:10.000 Right-wing podcaster Tim Poole isn't selling ads anymore after a successful Check My Ads campaign.

00:31:15.000 He's selling dot dot dot coffee, and we found out who makes the beans.

00:31:19.000 Uh, here's the thing.

00:31:20.000 We, we, we are, we are selling ads.

00:31:22.000 We have, we've never lost a sponsor.

00:31:24.000 Uh, we have all our sponsors still.

00:31:26.000 We, we literally just recorded several ads, what, on, on, what day is it?

00:31:30.000 Wednesday?

00:31:31.000 On Monday.

00:31:32.000 On Monday, I'm like, everyone get out, we're recording ads for the same sponsors.

00:31:35.000 We just finalized another six-figure sponsorship deal.

00:31:39.000 They're outright lying and using the lies to make money, to convince people to donate.

00:31:46.000 Wait, so, because I remember seeing that when they posted that, or, you know, you were tweeting at them or something, and then I went back and was thinking, like, so sometimes if I don't catch the show live, I'll go back and listen on the podcast side, and I'm like, they're all there, like, you can hear it, it's totally normal, and it's been that way for, I don't know, years at this point?

00:32:06.000 So, We've been doing mostly over the past few months direct reads for Casper Coffee, obviously, because we're building up our own company, which is probably going to crack over a million dollars in revenue in its first year.

00:32:19.000 So in a conspiracy to profit, you've created a company and you're using your other company to leverage that new company.

00:32:30.000 I mean, this is the most nefarious thing I've ever heard.

00:32:32.000 So, currently, we have our same ad sales rep.

00:32:36.000 We used to do more live reads during the show, now it's all just the recorded.

00:32:41.000 So, if you guys listen on the podcast, you'll get the recorded ads where it's like, better help, and the sponsors are all still there, and we actually do really well.

00:32:51.000 Like, substantially.

00:32:52.000 They're outright fabricating this, and I will add, The only reason we've not done live reads specifically, despite the fact we still have all these sponsors asking us when we will, is because we're trying to promote as much as possible Casprew, but we actually did a deal for some live reads on the show again!

00:33:12.000 You see how they use deceptive language?

00:33:14.000 First of all, they said, I'm not selling ads anymore.

00:33:16.000 Totally false.

00:33:17.000 We're absolutely selling ads.

00:33:18.000 We still have all the same sponsors.

00:33:19.000 And we just finalized a six-figure deal with a new sponsor.

00:33:23.000 So that is factually incorrect.

00:33:25.000 It is absolutely false.

00:33:27.000 And they say, after a successful Check My Ads campaign.

00:33:30.000 Is that fraud?

00:33:32.000 I feel like it is.

00:33:33.000 It doesn't make sense to me also because, I mean, did they get in contact?

00:33:38.000 Where did they find out that you weren't selling ads?

00:33:40.000 Obviously, if they had done any kind of research, that would have been false.

00:33:43.000 They could contact our ad sales people.

00:33:44.000 They sort of were like, oh, Tim's not talking about something, so we've decided.

00:33:48.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:33:49.000 How are they monetized?

00:33:52.000 They take donations.

00:33:53.000 So they're C3?

00:33:54.000 Yes.

00:33:54.000 If you listen to the audio podcast, there's, I think, 10 ads Like, from a ton of different sponsors.

00:34:02.000 Yes.

00:34:02.000 And they're fundraising off the lie that we don't- Some of it's you, some of it's inserts, some of it's like donuts, all different things.

00:34:09.000 It seems weird.

00:34:10.000 Donuts is a style of ad, folks.

00:34:11.000 He's not actually advertising donuts.

00:34:15.000 It's when they send you part of an ad, and then you insert something, and then you know... Yeah, so here's the way it works.

00:34:21.000 Some ad sales are like, hey, we have an ad, we want to run it on your show.

00:34:24.000 It's like, all right, great.

00:34:25.000 We have an ad company, we have a management company that handles that.

00:34:28.000 We just choose where on the show to put it.

00:34:30.000 And then a few of our sponsors, our bigger sponsors, they say, we want Tim Pool to read this personally.

00:34:35.000 We say, you got it.

00:34:36.000 And that costs, obviously, a little bit more.

00:34:38.000 And then, for this show, we actually have all of our sponsors.

00:34:42.000 We used to do reads for, like, Virtual Shield, there's SafeAndReadyMeals.com, there's, uh, what else do we have?

00:34:49.000 The, like, protein energy thing.

00:34:51.000 Oh, right, we got the collagen, we have the camping gear and stuff.

00:34:57.000 Yeah, all of these sponsors are still there.

00:35:00.000 And we've actually been, I've been talking to the ad sales guy about end of the year sales to bring them back in because I'm like, look, we've been doing Casper this whole time.

00:35:09.000 Anyway, I digress.

00:35:10.000 I digress.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, because usually my contracts run like, so it's like January to January.

00:35:14.000 So at this point, we're going into, really?

00:35:19.000 Yeah, every month we renegotiate and that I like it better because I'm like, look, you know, we had a great month.

00:35:24.000 This month's gonna be bigger.

00:35:25.000 We want more money.

00:35:25.000 Yeah.

00:35:26.000 So, well, I shouldn't say all, most.

00:35:28.000 My ad guy just sent me like a December pitch and I said, yes.

00:35:33.000 And they're like, this is insane.

00:35:35.000 It's just absolutely insane that these groups lie.

00:35:39.000 Look, I guess they have success in some areas, like you guys were losing money.

00:35:44.000 I'm like, what are they talking about?

00:35:45.000 I never promoted the big lie, I never claimed Trump won, and we still sell ads.

00:35:50.000 Yo, this is wild.

00:35:52.000 I don't know, man, like, do I have to pursue some kind of criminal charge, like fraud charges against them?

00:35:56.000 Because I guess what you'd have to do is find someone who donated to them.

00:36:04.000 Because they believed this organization had negatively impacted our business, they also have a tweet up claiming that our website's demonetized.

00:36:11.000 Which, it's literally not!

00:36:14.000 It's crazy!

00:36:16.000 You know what man, whatever though.

00:36:17.000 But Rumble's suing them, because they're doing the same thing.

00:36:20.000 They claim that Rumble is operating off Google Ads, and Rumble's like, no we aren't!

00:36:25.000 In fact, I will add, well I shouldn't say too much, but what I can say is, Rumble has their own ads, that appear on Rumble.

00:36:34.000 Wild.

00:36:34.000 This is what these activists do.

00:36:37.000 They claim to be an organization that fights disinformation, but literally all they do is manufacture it.

00:36:42.000 Also, they're a not-for-profit.

00:36:44.000 Their 501c3 status is pending.

00:36:47.000 And I just wonder what is so charitable about this organization that tax dollars should be going to this group?

00:36:54.000 Right.

00:36:55.000 I mean, the tax dollars don't go to it.

00:36:57.000 They just don't pay taxes.

00:36:58.000 They just don't pay taxes on it.

00:36:59.000 Exactly.

00:36:59.000 They're just claiming that they're doing a public service by, you know, telling you what's going on and the public has more information this way.

00:37:05.000 You know, they'll get their 501c3 status because ultimately the people who give to them are the same people who give to the political leaders who are in charge right now.

00:37:13.000 I mean, they see it as a benefit to their own mission.

00:37:16.000 And that's why they can send you emails being like, well, if you were better at publishing better stuff, then your advertisers wouldn't pull out.

00:37:23.000 It's not that we bullied them.

00:37:24.000 It's just we decided that you were an unwanted organization and told them that.

00:37:29.000 It's crazy.

00:37:31.000 It feels very dystopian to me.

00:37:33.000 Like, listen- Maybe it grants individual donations.

00:37:38.000 The company does?

00:37:40.000 Interesting.

00:37:41.000 Yeah.

00:37:41.000 So I'm looking up their filings.

00:37:45.000 That was the weird thing about hearing Elon Musk talk, which is that he's saying, you know, the advertisers believe they can ultimately get me to do what they want.

00:37:53.000 Even, even sort of opening up with, well, you're sort of on this apology tour.

00:37:56.000 And I felt like I could watch Elon Musk's tense and be like, I'm absolutely not on an apology tour.

00:38:01.000 I am not going to admit that you guys or admit wrongdoing.

00:38:05.000 Isn't that wrongdoing?

00:38:06.000 Or just partake in this manipulation of what you want?

00:38:09.000 And I think the weird thing is that ultimately, advertisers need the eyes, and the eyes are gonna stay on Twitter, meaning that the users are staying on Twitter, even if the advertisers pull off, right?

00:38:18.000 Like, the engagement on Twitter didn't dip because the advertisements went away.

00:38:22.000 Ultimately, to me, it seems like someone else will rise up and take those spots back.

00:38:26.000 Or they'll come back, because that's where the crowd is.

00:38:30.000 Wild.

00:38:31.000 This is what we're up against.

00:38:34.000 Well, and Texas is, the Texas AG is suing Media Matters.

00:38:39.000 He is suing?

00:38:40.000 He's investigating.

00:38:41.000 He's investigating Media Matters.

00:38:42.000 So in Texas, they can't bring, their AG is situated a little bit differently, like he has to pass off a criminal case to someone else.

00:38:50.000 They can't bring themselves, like you can in some states, same with civil.

00:38:54.000 And so Missouri was a huge one because they're able to bring direct action.

00:38:58.000 But it's just a great example, right?

00:39:00.000 So, look at the Trump cases that are going on right now, from the left.

00:39:05.000 You've got the Attorney General of New York finding any pretext to go after him.

00:39:10.000 Literally any pretext to go after him, his company, his family, even things that didn't even happen in her state, she's finding a way to make it happen.

00:39:18.000 You see this with Fannie Willis, you see this again and again. One of the best, from

00:39:22.000 his perspective, one of the most strategic and most efficient uses of money that George Soros ever did

00:39:29.000 was in funding all of these people.

00:39:30.000 Because for a couple million bucks here and there, you compare that to like the Coke industry,

00:39:34.000 the Coke brothers who spent billions just drowning our country down the tubes.

00:39:41.000 And now they want to throw all this money behind Nikki Haley.

00:39:44.000 And you compare that to just a couple of million bucks that George Soros spent in key targeted races, whereby he's now able to have the President of the United States arrested, he's able to have the frontrunner for the Republican nomination be put under a series of trials, So all of this is going on.

00:40:03.000 Meanwhile, Republicans will sit back and go, oh, we can't do anything like that.

00:40:06.000 That's not fair.

00:40:08.000 You know, you've got all of these organizations.

00:40:10.000 Look what they did to the NRA.

00:40:11.000 Look what Letitia James did to the NRA and just completely castrated them in front of everyone. 1.00

00:40:17.000 Sure, they still exist on paper, but they're so much more castrated than they've ever been in terms of the 2A fight right now.

00:40:24.000 At a time where, you know, just to be frank about it, you know, the Republican Party needs single-issue voters.

00:40:31.000 Look at how the Democrats are utilizing single-issue voters when it comes to abortion and turning that into a massive ballot harvesting operation.

00:40:37.000 The NRA could be doing that if they existed or had any serious operations right now.

00:40:41.000 Just doesn't exist after what Letitia James did.

00:40:44.000 And Republicans will sit there and say, oh, that's not fair.

00:40:46.000 Meanwhile, Democrats are saying, let's strip Trump off the ballot.

00:40:49.000 Let's find any way that we can destroy you guys and keep pressing the advantage, because again, Democrats know how to use government power, they will use government power, and Republicans are terrified.

00:41:01.000 So I threw out there, and not to get into like the primary stuff, if you want to.

00:41:05.000 We're about to actually.

00:41:07.000 I threw out there that a guy like Ron DeSantis would never even Like he would be physically terrified to utter the words, I'm going to have Joe Biden stripped from the ballot in Florida.

00:41:19.000 Yep.

00:41:20.000 And you know, he has full power in the state super legislature.

00:41:25.000 You know, he could easily file a charge from his campaign saying that Biden is ineligible and you find pretext under the fact that he, that he took bribery from China, which is an impeachable offense.

00:41:35.000 And he could say, therefore you are not eligible to run for president under the constitution.

00:41:39.000 And you could file that lawsuit.

00:41:41.000 And this guy, he would be terrified to do that because, and you can say it's not the stones, not the backbone, whatever.

00:41:46.000 It's just, no, he is a pedantic rule follower.

00:41:49.000 He's terrified of actually standing up for himself and fighting back.

00:41:52.000 And it's why, like, he'll go on Lara Ingram and can't even, you know, can't even name Ronna McDaniel and say, oh, I'm, you know, terrified to do this.

00:41:59.000 You could see Lara, like, rolling her eyes at him.

00:42:01.000 And my point is that it's not even an anti-DeSantis thing.

00:42:05.000 It's just that there's a lot of Republicans like this.

00:42:08.000 They are terrified to actually use government power.

00:42:12.000 Well, let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.

00:42:15.000 You know what this means.

00:42:16.000 Exclusive.

00:42:18.000 U.S.

00:42:18.000 military is seeing UFOs in space, official report says.

00:42:23.000 And that can only mean one thing.

00:42:24.000 Hunter Biden was caught with weird money laundering again.

00:42:27.000 Fox News reports money laundering investigator warned of Hunter Biden's unusual erratic payments from China in 2018.

00:42:34.000 The bank investigator raised concerns about money that ultimately funded the $40,000 payment to Joe Biden, Comer says.

00:42:41.000 So, uh, Of course there's a big UFO story coming out on the same day that there is a mysterious Chinese payment to Hunter Biden in the news.

00:42:51.000 Surprise, surprise.

00:42:52.000 And it looks like Fox News' website is completely broken.

00:42:55.000 The best part about this story was that the bankers that flagged the payments said that there was no obvious services rendered.

00:43:06.000 I love that.

00:43:07.000 Who knows?

00:43:07.000 What are they paying for?

00:43:08.000 Do you think that UFO people are sad that the thing they love and are passionate about has been ruined by the Biden administration?

00:43:14.000 No.

00:43:14.000 I think they must be, right?

00:43:15.000 I think they're just stoked that people are talking about UFOs.

00:43:18.000 No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:43:19.000 There was a Tucker show about it.

00:43:20.000 No, no, the UFO people turned on Fox News, and they reported Hunter Biden, and they immediately called their friends and said, we got UFO news coming!

00:43:27.000 You're like, brace yourselves, it's about to happen.

00:43:29.000 Maybe that's good.

00:43:30.000 Hunter Biden's in the news.

00:43:31.000 Because I was thinking, if you're a UFO person, you're like, the Biden administration is just releasing all kinds of fake information under the guise of UFOs to distract from Hunter.

00:43:39.000 But maybe the information they're releasing is legitimate.

00:43:42.000 And that way, you can really distract people.

00:43:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:44.000 Like, are they making stuff up to cover up Hunter's crime?

00:43:47.000 They're stretching nonsense.

00:43:49.000 They have these minor reports where it's like a guysaw thing.

00:43:52.000 Who knows?

00:43:52.000 And now they're like, look over here!

00:43:54.000 Check this out.

00:43:55.000 In an email released from the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday, a Bank Secrecy Act manager raised concerns the payments did not appear to correspond to any services rendered, as well as Chinese efforts to target children of politicians.

00:44:06.000 The investigator suggested the bank re-evaluate its relationship with the client.

00:44:11.000 So you had private sector concerns that homeboy over here was taking dirty money from foreign governments.

00:44:17.000 Well, here we are, ladies and gentlemen, with new UFO news breaking as we speak.

00:44:22.000 How about that?

00:44:23.000 I want to explain something to everybody.

00:44:26.000 How money and finance works.

00:44:28.000 You know, they talk about Donald Trump hiring his family and his kids and all that stuff, and I'm like, yeah, it's not an easy thing to do.

00:44:34.000 If you own a business, and let's say, let's say you own a car dealership.

00:44:38.000 You're pulling in a million bucks a month.

00:44:39.000 That's like a good amount for a car dealership.

00:44:41.000 Now I'm not saying profit.

00:44:42.000 That's your revenue.

00:44:43.000 And so you got some, you got a good, let's say you got a good profit margin.

00:44:46.000 You think, I'm going to hire my son and I'm going to pay him six figures.

00:44:50.000 Good luck.

00:44:51.000 You need a clearly defined job, a job title, a legitimate job title, a recognizable job title, with clearly defined hours and structure, because what's gonna happen is, government's gonna come for you and say, what does your son do?

00:45:04.000 Why are you giving your son this salary?

00:45:06.000 We have questions.

00:45:07.000 Why?

00:45:07.000 Let's say you as an individual make a million bucks a year.

00:45:10.000 You're in the highest tax bracket possible, so you're giving like half of your paycheck to the government.

00:45:15.000 Let's say you get a paycheck for $10,000.

00:45:17.000 Cut that in half, give the government $5,000.

00:45:18.000 That's how it works.

00:45:20.000 Let's say you decide to hire your son and pay him $5,000 a month.

00:45:23.000 Well, now you've cut your cash in half.

00:45:26.000 For your $5,000, you're still cutting that in half.

00:45:28.000 Now the government's only getting $25,000.

00:45:30.000 Your son, who only makes $100,000, is in a lower tax bracket.

00:45:33.000 Now the government's not getting that $5,000 they thought every month.

00:45:36.000 They're getting only like $35,000 or $34,000.

00:45:38.000 This is why you cannot just give money to your family and your kids unless you have outlined clearly in the documents, in your corporate paperwork, and all of that stuff.

00:45:48.000 It is not... I don't want to act like it's a difficult thing.

00:45:50.000 I'm just saying...

00:45:51.000 If there's no clear services rendered, it is not surprising that the bank staff guy was like, uh, we should re-evaluate working with this guy, because that clearly is going to put them in, like, this bank is probably like, we're going to get, they're going to file discovery on us, we're going to get investigated.

00:46:10.000 This guy's clearly got illegitimate dealings going on, we can clearly see it.

00:46:14.000 So he's required to look for that under federal law, there's all sorts, this is a huge thing.

00:46:20.000 And this is exactly why.

00:46:21.000 So, it is not so easy in business just to have money and give money away.

00:46:26.000 First of all, you can't give money away.

00:46:28.000 There's limits.

00:46:29.000 There's tax, there's gift limits per year plus lifetime gift limits.

00:46:33.000 If you hire family members and they don't have clearly defined titles that are recognizable, and they're not being paid a market competitive salary, they are going to come after you.

00:46:42.000 It's wild.

00:46:45.000 You know, look, you start a business, and all of a sudden you're a Republican.

00:46:48.000 That's what they say, right?

00:46:49.000 And the reason why these Democrats don't understand, they think it's because of taxes.

00:46:52.000 I'm like, it's not just that.

00:46:54.000 It's like, you might want to pay someone a premium, and now you've got to argue why you're paying someone a premium.

00:46:59.000 Oh, this guy's really, really good at his job, he should get paid more.

00:47:02.000 And then they're like, you're paying him 40% above market, why?

00:47:05.000 We want to know why that money's going to him and not to us.

00:47:08.000 That's the kind of stuff they could go after you whenever they feel like it.

00:47:13.000 I don't want to do the whole, you know, conservative, imagine if the shoe was on the other foot thing, but I should point out that Donald Trump is currently on trial for fraud in New York State.

00:47:26.000 And none of the banks filed any reports like this whatsoever.

00:47:30.000 No, they're defending it.

00:47:32.000 They've all defended him.

00:47:35.000 In fact, it's been the exact opposite.

00:47:37.000 And they defended him because they paid back with profit.

00:47:41.000 And that's why the banks were willing to continue to do this.

00:47:45.000 And yet we have another situation here where the banks were raising red flags, were filing potential fraud reports, and nothing seems to happen.

00:47:54.000 Well, they're not supposed to be mad about the Bidens.

00:47:55.000 You're only supposed to be mad about the Trumps.

00:47:57.000 The Bidens are allowed to do whatever they want.

00:47:58.000 This is the three-tier system of justice, right?

00:48:00.000 And I heard you quote this the other day, that it's the three tiers, and I keep saying this over and over.

00:48:05.000 So it used to be two, now it's three, right?

00:48:07.000 So tier one, that's the elites.

00:48:09.000 That's Hillary. 1.00

00:48:11.000 If your last name is Obama, Clinton, Biden, Epstein at one point, you are fine, right?

00:48:18.000 Well, until you're a loose end, like Chauvin, for example.

00:48:21.000 He's a loose end, so got to get rid of him.

00:48:24.000 So he was never in their club.

00:48:25.000 That's no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:48:26.000 But I just mean loose ends.

00:48:28.000 Um, that, that, you know, that's tier one.

00:48:31.000 You'll, you can do whatever you want for the most part.

00:48:33.000 Um, then tier two.

00:48:35.000 So tier two, this is like, this is like normal, you know, you get pulled over for speeding, that kind of thing.

00:48:40.000 That's your normie kind of law.

00:48:41.000 That's your normal stuff.

00:48:42.000 And then tier three is Trump and Trump supporters.

00:48:44.000 And Trump and Trump supporters have a whole extra set of laws that you know, you know, okay, maybe you were just walking through the Capitol on your way out of the Capitol means you get beat in the back with a baton by the police, even as you're complying with their orders, or how about your your Married couple who shows up an hour and a half after people have already were already leaving you have no idea what's going on There's no signs.

00:49:12.000 There's no cops.

00:49:12.000 There's no barriers you walk up and look around and then leave and they accuse you of all of the same crimes and Sentence you to a year in jail that happened.

00:49:20.000 I met I met some of these people I met him at a restaurant and they said hour and a half after people had already left and all that was done they walk up and there's the building doors open and No barricades, no signs, nothing.

00:49:31.000 They're not anywhere near any of the fighting or broken glass and they walk up and they're looking around and they wave and then they say, okay, whatever, and then they leave.

00:49:37.000 And the next thing they know, six, seven months later, they're getting served for criminal charges for having just walked around in DC.

00:49:43.000 Shout out to Owen Troyer, who's currently behind bars, who didn't even go into the Capitol.

00:49:49.000 And was at a permitted rally.

00:49:52.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:49:53.000 But they just brought up all of his posts.

00:49:54.000 This is what they're saying.

00:49:55.000 You think the wrong thing, you say the wrong thing, you're in trouble, and we want you to be behind bars.

00:50:00.000 But I want to stress, in the three tiers of justice, a slight correction.

00:50:04.000 The first tier is, as you described, but the second tier is, you own a bodega, and a guy comes in and smashes everything, and the cops don't show up for any reason.

00:50:15.000 So that means you're in this no-man's land.

00:50:18.000 The laws aren't enforced against you, and they won't be enforced for you.

00:50:22.000 Then you have the bottom tier of being the Trump supporters and the MAGA people where you could be swatted 15 times in a year, ain't nobody gonna help you, and you fart in public and they're gonna lock you up.

00:50:34.000 So in the Russian Civil War, during the Bolshevik Revolution, when the Bolsheviks first got in power, the idea was, and Libby, we were chatting on this before we got here, and if you read Always with Honor by Pyotr Wrangel, who was the general that fought against the communists, I actually got to visit his grave in Belgrade a couple weeks ago.

00:50:50.000 It's just amazing.

00:50:51.000 It's right in this little alcove in a church.

00:50:54.000 It's not marked or anything before you go into the church, but everybody knows that that's General Wrangel.

00:50:59.000 And his estate is completely refused even now after the fall of the Soviet Union to have his body transferred back to Russia because that's where he wanted to go because that church specifically is dedicated to the Russian imperial family, the Romanovs.

00:51:13.000 Oh wow.

00:51:14.000 And that's from his perspective he was fighting for the rightful rulers of the country and as a patriot.

00:51:21.000 And so he said in this memoir that at one point that if you were a criminal who was caught with a knife, well, the criminal doesn't know any better.

00:51:30.000 He's responding to socioeconomic factors that are out of his control.

00:51:34.000 It's not his fault that he's lashing out this way.

00:51:37.000 Society has wronged him.

00:51:39.000 We must take care of him.

00:51:41.000 We must help him and put him back on the street.

00:51:43.000 But if you get caught with a knife, if you get caught with one, even if you haven't used it yet, now you're a criminal.

00:51:49.000 Now you're a domestic terrorist and you must be treated as an enemy of the state. 0.58

00:51:54.000 So a hundred years ago in Russia, this is exactly what they were doing.

00:51:58.000 Yeah, and also because I've been looking at the Gulag Archipelago, which I know a lot of people have been talking about lately, but Solzhenitsyn talks about when he was in prison at the Lubyanka, which I don't know how you spell that, but whatever, when he was in prison and he was being interrogated and everything.

00:52:15.000 He's built in Russia, by the way.

00:52:17.000 You spell it in Russian, yeah.

00:52:18.000 I would never do that right.

00:52:20.000 But he talked about how people would come in and they would be interrogated and they would mention a former colleague who maybe they had been friendly with and then the next thing they know that former colleague is getting dragged in and being interrogated and it's just this perpetual guilt by association even though there hasn't been any guilt at any point.

00:52:38.000 You know, Solzhenitsyn was dragged in while he was serving in the military and he was dragged in for, you know, crimes and it turned out that His biggest crime was that he had an old friend who was on the front lines of the opposing side, and they were sending each other letters.

00:52:53.000 They were, like, still friendly.

00:52:54.000 He was communicating with the enemy.

00:52:56.000 Right.

00:52:56.000 Do you think awareness of the multi-tiered justice system is strong enough to affect how people are going to vote?

00:53:03.000 Like, do you think that people who are on the fence have seen what's happened to the people involved in January 6 and will say so?

00:53:09.000 I hope so, but do you think?

00:53:10.000 It's not January 6.

00:53:13.000 A bodega worker got stabbed, or they were trying to kill him and he stabbed a guy and they lock him up.

00:53:19.000 There was a family, this was a big story, looters came in and just destroyed everything for no reason, and the family's life and savings were wiped out, they lost 20 grand in product.

00:53:29.000 Regular people are experiencing that.

00:53:31.000 Anarcho-tyranny.

00:53:32.000 Yeah, or like when you go to the store and you can't buy anything without searching around for someone to unlock a cabinet, and there's nobody working, and it's just a self-checkout, and everyone's just getting high in the back.

00:53:42.000 My favorite is in Chicago, the Walgreens, where there's no products.

00:53:45.000 It's just little signs.

00:53:47.000 No, no, no, it's a big empty room with a terminal, and you walk up and type in what you want, and then after you pay, someone will walk out and carry the product to you.

00:53:55.000 Interesting.

00:53:56.000 You know, that's sort of like how grocery stores used to be.

00:53:59.000 My great-grandfather had a grocery store in Brooklyn and it would be like he would be behind the counter and my great-grandmother and people would come in and say what they wanted and they would bring them the stuff.

00:54:10.000 You know what that is?

00:54:10.000 That's a form of rationing.

00:54:12.000 Yeah.

00:54:12.000 That's actually a form of rationing.

00:54:14.000 It sure is.

00:54:15.000 It's not just against shoplifting.

00:54:17.000 Soviet Union that, you know, Tanya will tell me that she remembers, not from when she was like a little older, but when she was younger, that if you wanted to go to the store, that you had to get your ration stamps.

00:54:31.000 And then you went to the store and you waited in line and you waited and you waited and you waited and you kept waiting.

00:54:36.000 And then eventually, if you had the specific stamp for, as you say, the item that you were looking for, then you handed it to the worker, then they would go into the back, then they would get it, then they would bring it out.

00:54:47.000 Because people don't understand that in Eastern Europe, in Russia, in Belarus, Ukraine, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it was a complete Wild Wild West free-for-all for almost a complete decade.

00:54:59.000 and crime and and like actual highway robbers like we say highway robbery but like actual highway bandits that was a huge thing you would get some of that stuff and some people would would you know gang up on you right on the outside so you had to go in in uh you know members when society collapses and you are inside of it um all sorts of horrible things happen i remember covering the freddie gray riots and it was like everybody knew everybody knew that at a certain time like it's all just going to go Have you ever had the Eastern European wafer cake?

00:55:33.000 Which kind?

00:55:34.000 Oh, like the full cake, the layers.

00:55:35.000 So it's wafer?

00:55:36.000 Yeah, all the time.

00:55:37.000 Sweetened condensed milk, layer, sweetened condensed milk.

00:55:39.000 And when I was in Ukraine, they told me, well, what happened was they had no flour.

00:55:44.000 You have nothing.

00:55:45.000 So what do you do?

00:55:46.000 When your guests are going to come over, you boil in condensed milk, and then you put a thin wafer, you pour some on it, you put another wafer on top, you pour another layer, and that's how you make a cake to have, but it's literally just condensed milk.

00:55:58.000 Yeah, Tonya's mom makes that for special occasions.

00:56:00.000 It's good though.

00:56:01.000 It's really good.

00:56:01.000 I know.

00:56:02.000 It's like all sugar.

00:56:03.000 But it's interesting, it's like something for special occasions that was an adaptation to the times that they were in, right?

00:56:08.000 I mean, I think about how many- You guys, Kissinger died.

00:56:11.000 Yeah.

00:56:12.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:56:13.000 He just passed in the chat here.

00:56:14.000 Wow.

00:56:15.000 Really?

00:56:15.000 He didn't pass in the chat, but they just mentioned it, so.

00:56:17.000 He was in our chat when he died?

00:56:18.000 I'm sorry, Hannah-Clare, I shouldn't have interrupted you.

00:56:20.000 Oh, I was just gonna say, I mean— Let's get it, ladies and gentlemen, huge news right now, 8.45 p.m.

00:56:25.000 breaking.

00:56:26.000 Henry Kissinger, who shaped world affairs under two presidents, dies at 100.

00:56:32.000 If we're on the Members Only show, I'd have a lot more to say, but we'll save it for the Members Only show.

00:56:36.000 I have a special, special statement for everybody when we start the Members Only show, but for now we'll keep it professional.

00:56:43.000 So, Jack, you were saying?

00:56:45.000 No, I was going to say there was an interview that he gave recently, you know, kind of on the heels of one of these summits where he was kind of You could tell that he was sort of like on the way out in the interview itself, and you could see him being very self-critical in this interview.

00:57:03.000 And, you know, let's keep in mind that for all of his work during the Cold War, this was also a guy who was one of the main architects of globalism and the current system of that globalism.

00:57:15.000 And, you know, he came out and basically said, you know, maybe we got it wrong.

00:57:20.000 And maybe we shouldn't have pushed for all of this open border stuff.

00:57:24.000 Maybe we shouldn't have pushed for this migration stuff.

00:57:26.000 Maybe we should have realized that countries do have security concerns and the John Mearsheimers of the world. 0.63

00:57:32.000 He didn't say all this, but it's clearly what he was he was referring to, because you could see that he was reflecting, I think.

00:57:38.000 And I remember I was in I was at Davos where in 2022 where Kissinger came up and gave this huge speech blaming the blaming NATO for the NATO expansion on the war in Ukraine.

00:57:52.000 And it was suddenly like wait Kissinger of all people is coming out saying these things and it's almost like, you know, it's like towards the end as he can see the light fading, you know him kind of going back and maybe re-examining some of his steps and realizing that they Probably weren't the best moves.

00:58:10.000 You know the meme where it's Death playing the crane game?

00:58:14.000 The first thing that popped in my head.

00:58:15.000 And he keeps going.

00:58:16.000 Literally the first thing that popped in my head.

00:58:17.000 You know, he's like, Norm Macdonald, is Henry Kissinger even in this thing?

00:58:21.000 Well, now someone can finally make it of him just going, Kissinger!

00:58:25.000 Got him.

00:58:27.000 That's it.

00:58:27.000 So what do you think Norm's gonna say to Kissinger when they meet?

00:58:32.000 Dude, I can't believe it.

00:58:33.000 This guy was so evil, man.

00:58:36.000 Henry Kissinger, a scholar, a statesman, and celebrity diplomat who wielded unparalleled power over U.S.

00:58:42.000 foreign policy throughout the administrations of Nixon and Gerald Ford, who for decades afterward, and a consultant and writer, proffered opinions that shaped global politics and business, died November 29th at his home in Connecticut.

00:58:53.000 He was 100.

00:58:54.000 Look, I never liked celebrating death.

00:58:56.000 You know, people dying is always bad. 0.99

00:58:57.000 I wish he wasn't such a nasty, nasty guy. 0.93

00:59:00.000 I can say, however, regardless of however you feel about it, the world will be better off, unfortunately. 0.91

00:59:07.000 I'm trying to be very nice, but there's just some people I cannot...

00:59:12.000 He's a bad guy.

00:59:13.000 He's a very, very bad guy. 0.85

00:59:16.000 He's got quotes that will make you throw up, this dude. 0.89

00:59:20.000 There's this article from Indy 100 that says the Is Henry Kissinger Dead Twitter account is tired of waiting for him to die.

00:59:27.000 This is from 2022.

00:59:28.000 And they were like, we didn't think this would be such a long-term commitment, which I think is kind of funny.

00:59:33.000 I think there were a lot of people who were not expecting this, but I don't know.

00:59:37.000 Here it is. 0.99

00:59:41.000 He's an architect for so much foreign policy garbage, foreign intervention, nation building, disgusting racist comments. 0.99

00:59:46.000 10 minutes ago. Yes. Well already up to 12,000 retweets. I've been doing it for two years. That's wild. Wow 1.00

00:59:52.000 He's an architect for so much foreign policy garbage foreign intervention nation building disgusting racist 0.99

01:00:00.000 comments I mean this dude is just I 0.99

01:00:02.000 could not imagine that You know when I look at these serial killers and these

01:00:08.000 really evil nasty people who do really evil things I'm like, yeah, that's there's real evil in this world

01:00:13.000 When I look at Kissinger, I'm like, but he was smarter about how he went about the awful things he did so he could maintain power while he did it.

01:00:20.000 Look, I mean, so you got a guy who came up with and executed the theory of Rappaport's Monde.

01:00:26.000 With communist China with Chairman Mao, right?

01:00:30.000 So he flies it because remember people don't realize is that oh somebody people know something.

01:00:34.000 Yeah, there's the name finally.

01:00:36.000 So people know that Nixon went over to, you know, kind of open up China and Nixon goes to China and this is what peels China away from the Soviet Union and eventually leads to You know, winning the war.

01:00:45.000 Well, Kissinger not only was the architect, Kissinger actually went there first and met with Joe Unlai in a secret trip that nobody knew about to kind of pave the way for Nixon going there.

01:00:56.000 And so, you know, Tim, to your point, you know, it takes a very cold, you know, like, Just an emotional, unfeeling mind to come up with the idea of, yeah, I'm going to sit down with Chairman Mao, probably one of the most murderous men to ever walk the face of the earth, but it's going to help us politically.

01:01:19.000 Geopolitically.

01:01:22.000 We are just chickens to lay eggs for them to harvest. 0.95

01:01:26.000 So they're not thinking about you and your family, the pain and suffering you go through.

01:01:29.000 They don't care about what happens to your friends who died mysteriously in their sleep.

01:01:34.000 They don't want to answer any of those questions and they don't care. 1.00

01:01:37.000 That's why these people are disgusting and evil. 0.99

01:01:40.000 These are the sociopaths who fight for political power, gain political power, and this is the corruption we need to weed out of our government, and we can. 0.98

01:01:48.000 We can do it, and I think we're winning, and I'm happy to see it.

01:01:51.000 Every day there are more and more victories, and every day there are more and more signs that we're headed towards something better.

01:01:58.000 So I'm glad.

01:01:59.000 Again, I don't like ever, no matter who it is, having a celebration of some death.

01:02:05.000 Because the reality is the dude should have been a better person.

01:02:08.000 You know, life is precious, even someone as awful as him.

01:02:11.000 But you have to recognize sometimes there are people that cause too much destruction.

01:02:14.000 And so at the very least we can be like, well, I'm not going to cheer for his death, but I am going to be like, the world is going to be better off without his foreign policy ideas and all that.

01:02:25.000 Yeah, but the legacy of anything is still there, right?

01:02:28.000 Even if he's dead, the impact of the decision he made will still feel.

01:02:32.000 It's true, but I'm hoping we get a good Trumpian statement where he was like, sad day hearing Henry Kissinger died.

01:02:38.000 He was a great man who did atrocious things and evil and, you know.

01:02:41.000 And he never supported, well knowing Trump it would be like, and he never supported me.

01:02:46.000 He never once came in, you know.

01:02:48.000 And my favorite all time one of Trump responding to someone's death, which of course, obviously the RBG one is now just, it has become its own thing.

01:03:00.000 It's actually overshadowed anything that Ruth Bader Ginsburg did in her entire life is Trump's reaction to the news of her death.

01:03:08.000 And but there's the right after Trump got elected and Tim, as you say, sort of the the psychic energy, you know, as Jung called it, the the the the world spirit, you know, this this idea that that, you know, the What's the, what's the phrase?

01:03:25.000 The unconscious, the collective unconscious.

01:03:28.000 That he is, my fourth show of the day, that when Trump is, right after he was elected, before he was inaugurated, Castro dies.

01:03:38.000 And then everyone's, you know, coming to him like, Oh, Mr, you know, President, Mr. President elect, Castro is dead.

01:03:44.000 He's, he's passed away.

01:03:44.000 Finally.

01:03:45.000 It's like, I want to come up with a Formal statement and, you know, put out something, you know, very magnanimous as the president.

01:03:51.000 And Trump just picks up Twitter and goes, Fidel Castro is dead!

01:03:54.000 I was going to ask, wasn't Kissinger just in China recently?

01:03:58.000 I feel like he was just on the news a couple days ago.

01:04:00.000 How could he possibly be in China?

01:04:02.000 He's a hundred years old!

01:04:03.000 Yeah, there was something about him I read.

01:04:04.000 Just his ghost is there?

01:04:06.000 Does anyone remember?

01:04:06.000 I'll look it up.

01:04:07.000 I don't recall.

01:04:08.000 He could have been at the ASEAN summit.

01:04:10.000 Oh, ASEAN, yeah, that's right.

01:04:11.000 Which was in San Francisco.

01:04:13.000 I saw that he was in China.

01:04:15.000 I don't remember what it was exactly, but he had something to do with... He traveled back and forth.

01:04:18.000 So he set up a farm policy shop.

01:04:19.000 Obviously he did a lot.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:21.000 That was very... July 22nd, 2023.

01:04:23.000 I forget what it was, but I saw in the news a while ago.

01:04:27.000 I don't remember what it was.

01:04:29.000 He's been going back and forth to China ever since.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, for a long time.

01:04:31.000 Yeah.

01:04:32.000 He was first and he kept doing it over and over and over.

01:04:36.000 And so, I mean, if you want to talk about someone who's been You know, just just at the forefront of the US China relationship since it began in the modern era with with Chairman Mao and the Chinese Communist Party.

01:04:49.000 That's that's Henry Kissinger.

01:04:51.000 And, you know, obviously someone who, you know, and I'm going to be actually flying to Japan tomorrow.

01:04:55.000 So I'm speaking at CPAC Tokyo.

01:04:58.000 On Saturday.

01:05:00.000 So, you know, I'm sure this will be kind of cast a, you know, a different angle on a lot of the topics that we discussed because, you know, when we're really looking at the system that we have now, the relationships, even the, the multilateral alliances that the United States has in East Asia, the security alliances, you know, it really was Kissinger who played a huge part in setting this all up.

01:05:22.000 I just messaged Cassandra.

01:05:24.000 She was like, what's going on?

01:05:25.000 What did I miss?

01:05:29.000 The people who hate war are like, wow.

01:05:32.000 Well, I, you know, trying to be very professional.

01:05:34.000 The people who hate war are probably jumping up and down and dancing on their tables right now.

01:05:37.000 Why?

01:05:37.000 I heard the reverse thing.

01:05:43.000 The tankies are like war.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:45.000 The tankies went like full.

01:05:47.000 All right.

01:05:48.000 It's past nine.

01:05:49.000 The boys probably tankies are like fully orgasmic right now. 0.61

01:05:53.000 Fully. 0.93

01:05:54.000 Yeah.

01:05:55.000 That's wild, man.

01:05:56.000 You know, seeing Trump win was, we were talking about this earlier actually, what everybody remembers the day, everyone remembers where they were when Trump won.

01:06:05.000 It was wild, right?

01:06:07.000 We were talking about that.

01:06:07.000 Yeah, everybody was crying.

01:06:09.000 I was hanging out with Cassandra and Cassandra was crying, but she was crying for a different reason. 0.98

01:06:13.000 She was crying tears of joy.

01:06:15.000 Everyone else in the room was like sitting there covered in sweat and a bunch of them were legit bawling.

01:06:21.000 It was wild for me to see.

01:06:23.000 Adults cry over an election like this.

01:06:26.000 I thought I was laughing I mean cuz the thing too is it's like we've been through a number of elections and it's like okay now We have a different president.

01:06:33.000 I wonder how this one's gonna go Yeah, you know I remember talking to people in the theater community at the time and everyone was miserable and they were crying and they were sad and they thought it was literally the end of the world and I was like, well, why don't we wait and see what he does and You know, anything's possible.

01:06:47.000 Like anything's but yeah, but they're all bad.

01:06:49.000 I mean, that's a thing.

01:06:50.000 But there was a specific like fear and hatred like Clinton was bad.

01:06:55.000 Bush was bad.

01:06:56.000 I mean, this is like what I remember.

01:06:57.000 I think I was living.

01:06:59.000 No, I wasn't living when I was still in Texas when Trump got elected.

01:07:03.000 And so there were people I was in college and there were people who were so excited.

01:07:08.000 I remember one of the fraternities got in trouble for hanging a, like, Trump 2016 banner out of their door.

01:07:13.000 They had to, like, take it down and get a fine or something.

01:07:15.000 Then there was, like, all of these different, like, you know, social justice organizations being like, we stand together, they will not divide us, whatever.

01:07:22.000 They were allowed to do whatever they wanted.

01:07:24.000 I mean, there was a complete divide and hysteria because it was totally built on the emotions of these people who felt as though their lives personally were threatened, as if Donald Trump would come down their chimney and I don't know that there is anyone who was afraid of Trump in 2016 who had accurate information.

01:07:46.000 I mean, I was up in New York.

01:07:47.000 I was at the party.

01:07:48.000 That was pretty baller.

01:07:51.000 That was definitely one of the best nights.

01:07:53.000 I was at the Sputnik office.

01:07:55.000 Cause that's where Cassandra had worked.

01:07:57.000 And they kept saying that Russia was supporting Trump.

01:08:00.000 And I'm like, dude, everybody in this building was for Hillary.

01:08:04.000 And when Trump won, they were losing it.

01:08:07.000 It was wild that night.

01:08:08.000 I just never forget when the New York Times had that probability meter that was like 90, greater than 99% for Hillary.

01:08:15.000 And it slowly started to move.

01:08:17.000 I remember when it hit 50% and people started being like, no, no.

01:08:21.000 Cassandra's sitting there like, oh my God, oh my God.

01:08:24.000 And then I remember when it was greater than 99 for Trump and there was a lot of crying, but Cassandra was the only one crying tears of joy.

01:08:31.000 Yeah.

01:08:31.000 I remember watching it at like, whatever, after midnight and it was like, some Democrat I knew was being like, well, but Pennsylvania, maybe!

01:08:38.000 And everyone else is like, no, it's over.

01:08:39.000 Like, it's over.

01:08:41.000 So that night, that day, I had been working and doing live streams all around Philadelphia and actually ran into James O'Keefe at one point.

01:08:52.000 Like a funny story about that, maybe we'll reveal it sometime.

01:08:55.000 Now, do it now.

01:08:57.000 Well, I'd want to talk to James first.

01:09:00.000 If it's so funny, just tell us live right now.

01:09:02.000 Well, because he was in the middle of doing one of those things, so I don't want to break his OPSEC, so I'm not going to do that.

01:09:08.000 I'm a middle child, what can I say?

01:09:11.000 We realized that, I remember I was driving around looking for the different, so like the after work rush in Philly.

01:09:18.000 So that was when you would really get your major Philadelphia vote out, would always come in the after work rush.

01:09:25.000 Usually when people vote on election day you get, you know, it comes in three tranches.

01:09:29.000 This is before, this is like when we actually had like real elections.

01:09:31.000 Right.

01:09:32.000 What a quaint time.

01:09:33.000 The crazy gaga that we have now that we call an election, which is really just a ballot counting exercise.

01:09:38.000 And in Philly you're pulling the levers.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, so this is, you know, early morning, so pre-work, then lunchtime, then there's a huge dead time, and then there's the after work rush.

01:09:50.000 The after work rush never came.

01:09:51.000 I went to North Philly.

01:09:52.000 I went to West Philly.

01:09:53.000 I went to South Philly.

01:09:54.000 Just never happened.

01:09:55.000 And I said, Philadelphia doesn't have a rush.

01:09:58.000 Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.

01:09:59.000 Trump wins Pennsylvania, he's going to be the president.

01:10:02.000 So I drove to 38th Street Station, bought a ticket right on the spot, up to New York, straight to the party.

01:10:06.000 Nice.

01:10:11.000 Let's jump to this story.

01:10:12.000 Let's get a little political here.

01:10:14.000 It's from sdnr.com.

01:10:16.000 Black Lives Matter leader who endorsed Trump tells Fox News, the Democratic Party is not for us.

01:10:22.000 Will we get, uh, you know, let me just, we'll throw it back.

01:10:26.000 We'll go back in time.

01:10:27.000 The meme war was so much fun.

01:10:28.000 It was.

01:10:29.000 Just all the memes were hilarious.

01:10:31.000 Excuse me, excuse me.

01:10:32.000 Will be fun because Elon has just declared a new one.

01:10:34.000 And that's my point.

01:10:35.000 This is what I bring up.

01:10:36.000 With a Black Lives Matter leader saying, you know what, the Democratic Party's not for us.

01:10:41.000 Trump is winning.

01:10:43.000 I should say he's improving among younger voters, among black and Latino voters.

01:10:46.000 Joe Biden's just in a horrible position.

01:10:50.000 And I have no idea how they could reasonably swap out Joe Biden at this point.

01:10:54.000 Are we going to have a resurgence of 2016?

01:10:57.000 Is it going to be the great meme war, the jokes, the Trump The Trump debate style?

01:11:05.000 I think that would be great because that really got people excited.

01:11:09.000 It got people excited and thought that everyone was on the same team, you know.

01:11:13.000 And I wasn't part of it at all, but it did look fun at the time.

01:11:17.000 From the outside?

01:11:18.000 It did look fun from the outside.

01:11:19.000 And you could kind of get the sense that something was coming and you weren't expecting it.

01:11:24.000 I don't know anything about the meme war.

01:11:26.000 I never had conversations with Ricky Vaughn or Codrad Stump or any of those guys.

01:11:32.000 Oh, you weren't involved at all?

01:11:34.000 Definitely not.

01:11:34.000 Jack's a general... Not in any way involved in memery... Jack's a serious pillow salesman, so... I am but a humble pillow merchant.

01:11:45.000 And, Hannah-Claire, I just want to make sure that... I've been looking at your screen throughout the evening and... Creep?

01:11:50.000 Just, I don't know... What, creep?

01:11:51.000 Did you say creep?

01:11:52.000 I'm gonna look at Hunter Biden and his payment.

01:11:53.000 Is that creep?

01:11:53.000 And it just doesn't seem to be the mypillow.com website.

01:11:57.000 Yeah, you must not be a very good salesman.

01:11:59.000 I'm so concerned of all the sales.

01:12:01.000 I'm still concerned about all the sales that you might be missing when you're ordering.

01:12:05.000 You have to get it delivered in time for... I just don't know why you're not doing this.

01:12:08.000 Christmas.

01:12:10.000 Only we had a good pillow merchant in the room to convince me to buy something.

01:12:14.000 But isn't it actually really wild how hard they went after a guy who sells pillows?

01:12:18.000 It's like, is this your biggest threat, dude?

01:12:20.000 But his reaction to them calling his pillows lumpy was the best.

01:12:23.000 Oh, that was amazing!

01:12:24.000 He's like, how dare you!

01:12:26.000 Don't call my pillows lumpy!

01:12:27.000 That's when they attacked his integrity, this product, which I honestly respect, you know?

01:12:31.000 I do too.

01:12:32.000 Everyone in the world respected that.

01:12:33.000 Because I even saw people in Silicon Valley retweeting that saying, never attack a founder's business.

01:12:40.000 Right, right.

01:12:40.000 Never do that.

01:12:42.000 In your lumpy pillow.

01:12:43.000 You're lumpy, you're lumpy, you're in it!

01:12:47.000 It just lights the guy up.

01:12:51.000 I talk to Mike, right?

01:12:52.000 He's legitimately one of the nicest guys.

01:12:55.000 He's an extremely devout Christian.

01:12:59.000 I've heard him say, he said this publicly, so I'll just say it.

01:13:04.000 He'll straight up say if you get stuck somewhere or if you're in a convent, he will send a private jet for you.

01:13:09.000 Like, anywhere, if you truly need it and you're trying to get somewhere and you're in a bind.

01:13:09.000 Wow.

01:13:15.000 Like, I've heard him do that for people so many times, and even people that aren't in politics, that just someone he knows that has trouble, he's like, oh, send the jet, don't worry about it, everything will be fine, and he'll just do that.

01:13:26.000 And then just, I don't know how he, he just takes the price.

01:13:29.000 We need to make sure the younger generation that wasn't... I mean, look, it's going to be 2024, so it's nearly 10 years since the 2016 race. 0.98

01:13:38.000 It'll be 8.

01:13:39.000 And there's going to be a lot of, you know, early 20s Gen Z people who are not old enough to have seen the meme magic.

01:13:46.000 Beautiful times.

01:13:47.000 But really, I'm not making a joke.

01:13:49.000 Real quick, people need to understand this.

01:13:52.000 Meme magic was a reference to the very strange occurrences that happened online where memes... So on 4chan, for instance, when you make a post, you get an ID number, and weird things would happen with numbers lining up in certain ways.

01:14:06.000 It was...

01:14:08.000 It's just wild, the serendipity and the coincidence around people posting memes and how weird things are to coincide with the posts.

01:14:15.000 Well, and not just the posts, but the way that it actually affected and influenced reality.

01:14:20.000 And so it had an influence on the real world.

01:14:23.000 Hillary's health, I think, probably was one of the biggest ones of these. 0.93

01:14:25.000 So we started hashtag Hillary's health, and we kept saying there's something wrong with her.

01:14:30.000 There's something wrong.

01:14:31.000 And at the time, she was like... Was that before the 9-11 incident thing?

01:14:37.000 So, do you want to hear the story or not?

01:14:42.000 Yeah, maybe in the third hour.

01:14:44.000 Or maybe at AmFest, also a promo code post, which I hear Tim will... I believe we're confirmed for AmFest.

01:14:54.000 Do you have any guests for AmFest, Tim?

01:14:56.000 I don't know if we're allowed to say it, are we?

01:14:58.000 Uh, I got a text that said to go ahead and say it, so if you want to, go ahead.

01:15:01.000 Oh, okay, yeah, Tucker Carlson.

01:15:02.000 So, TimCast, Tucker Carlson.

01:15:05.000 Live on stage.

01:15:05.000 We'll be live on stage.

01:15:06.000 AmFest.com, get your tickets now.

01:15:08.000 Do not come crying to me when the thing is sold out, which happens every single year.

01:15:13.000 One of these things, people go, oh, Pozo, can you get me in?

01:15:16.000 Get me a couple tickets, a couple comps, man.

01:15:17.000 Like, I know you got the hookup, I know you know Charlie.

01:15:19.000 Like, I ain't doing it.

01:15:20.000 Like, I'm just straight up not doing it.

01:15:22.000 So yeah, Charlie, I think, I know Charlie's going to be on, this is the on stage, so you're bringing the show out, right?

01:15:28.000 The show is going to be on stage at AmFest, and our guests, I believe, are Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk.

01:15:32.000 Yes.

01:15:33.000 It's going to be awesome.

01:15:34.000 That's going to be great.

01:15:35.000 So that's, you're doing it, Patrick Bet-David, I know Tucker's going to be broadcasting from there, Bannon's War Room, I'm going to be doing my show, Charlie's doing his show.

01:15:43.000 Patrick Bet-David is going to be also live streaming from there.

01:15:46.000 He's not just appearing, he's also going to be doing live, so like, you're going to get the valetainment.

01:15:50.000 Dude, those guys are awesome.

01:15:52.000 It's just everybody.

01:15:53.000 I think it's literally just everyone's coming back.

01:15:55.000 The post-millennial would be there.

01:15:57.000 We're going to have a booth.

01:15:57.000 Post-millennial's got a booth.

01:15:58.000 We're going to have a bunch of people out.

01:16:01.000 Imagine not going to AmFest.

01:16:03.000 It's not easy to do.

01:16:06.000 Doing a show on stage like this requires a lot.

01:16:09.000 I remember last year.

01:16:09.000 It was wild.

01:16:10.000 It was definitely wild.

01:16:11.000 And so we have to, as soon as the show wraps, we're on a jet right back.

01:16:16.000 Because we had to do the show Tuesday.

01:16:17.000 I had to do the morning show too.

01:16:18.000 But when we were talking and we said we wanted to do a big show, they hit us up.

01:16:22.000 Well, if you get in trouble, I know a guy.

01:16:23.000 He's got a jet.

01:16:25.000 You have to buy a lot of pillows, I heard.

01:16:27.000 They're taking care of us.

01:16:30.000 They're helping take care of everything.

01:16:32.000 It's fantastic.

01:16:33.000 And so I'm really excited for this.

01:16:34.000 They were like, you know, let's get Tucker on stage.

01:16:36.000 It'll be cool.

01:16:37.000 It's gonna be awesome.

01:16:38.000 I feel like Tucker coming on the show is a long time coming.

01:16:40.000 I feel like a lot of people have wanted to see the mashup.

01:16:42.000 Well, they used to be at the exact same time.

01:16:45.000 So you couldn't, I mean, there was no way to make that work.

01:16:45.000 Right.

01:16:47.000 Yeah.

01:16:48.000 Tim couldn't go on Tucker.

01:16:49.000 Tucker couldn't go on Tim.

01:16:50.000 But after he left Fox, We actually, I don't know, I think our people reached out and it was a like, oh yeah, for sure, we'll figure it out.

01:16:58.000 And then we just never did.

01:16:59.000 It's the same thing that happens with Trump.

01:17:01.000 We get like, we had Lara Trump on the show and she's like, yeah, of course, let's make it happen.

01:17:05.000 And then we just never do it.

01:17:05.000 I'm like, cool.

01:17:07.000 And so I'm like, I don't know, I kind of feel like.

01:17:09.000 If slash when we have Trump on, it shouldn't just be us pursuing it for the sake of pursuing it, it should be like at a time where it really matters.

01:17:18.000 Speaking of which, so I did actually discuss this with, speaking of AmFest, I did discuss this with Charlie earlier and, you know, so, you know, we were kind of going through because I knew there were some names that haven't come out yet.

01:17:29.000 Um, so on, on Trump, no news yet.

01:17:33.000 Yes or no.

01:17:33.000 No, no news.

01:17:34.000 Leaning towards, I mean, come on.

01:17:36.000 He really ought to come.

01:17:37.000 You know, um, I, I, I would, I would say it's probably likely.

01:17:41.000 He gets a hero's welcome.

01:17:42.000 But no news.

01:17:43.000 Um, uh, Vivek is confirmed.

01:17:45.000 Uh, Chris Christie, Chris Christie, just total no response.

01:17:48.000 He just didn't say anything.

01:17:49.000 No response.

01:17:50.000 And again, like Turning Point reached out to every single Turning Point action.

01:17:53.000 But you know, Chris Christie just the other day on the news was saying how his campaign was really picking up steam.

01:17:59.000 No, he was picking up cream, actually.

01:18:00.000 Oh, is that what it was?

01:18:03.000 He was at Krispy Kreme.

01:18:04.000 Yeah, he was picking up cream.

01:18:05.000 That makes more sense.

01:18:07.000 You must have heard him, or maybe he misspoke.

01:18:09.000 So Nikki Haley, probably not.

01:18:15.000 Ron DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis.

01:18:17.000 Again, because the offer went out everywhere.

01:18:19.000 DeSantis is coming now.

01:18:22.000 It's the opposite.

01:18:23.000 So there was a conversation that was being held.

01:18:27.000 The conversation is now over.

01:18:29.000 From what Charlie told me just prior to the show to now, Ron DeSantis will not be attending AmFest.

01:18:36.000 He found out I was coming.

01:18:36.000 That's his second turning point snub.

01:18:39.000 After I just described every single entity, organization, group, all the hottest podcasts in the entire country are going to be there.

01:18:49.000 But their heights are publicly known.

01:18:51.000 Many of which, one of which he was just on, many of which are from Florida.

01:18:58.000 Yeah, he has decided to decline to come to Turning Point yet again.

01:19:02.000 I think that's crazy too.

01:19:04.000 Which is the largest conservative grassroots event in the entire country.

01:19:08.000 He's running for president!

01:19:11.000 And he doesn't like the base.

01:19:12.000 And he's going to debate a governor tomorrow, right?

01:19:15.000 For some strange reason.

01:19:18.000 It's like he keeps saying that he just doesn't care about the base conservatives in this country.

01:19:22.000 He doesn't want their vote.

01:19:23.000 He goes on all of the other networks.

01:19:25.000 He snubs Turning Point.

01:19:27.000 It's really crazy how he does that.

01:19:29.000 What, does he actually think people are going to come around?

01:19:32.000 Well, so be like, oh, you won't show up.

01:19:33.000 You won't talk to anybody.

01:19:35.000 And they keep saying that.

01:19:36.000 And it's very strange to me.

01:19:37.000 It's perplexing, because I've been at turning point events in the past where Ron DeSantis spoke and prior to him announcing that he was running against Trump, but where he was given a standing ovation by the crowd.

01:19:49.000 They loved him.

01:19:51.000 Yeah.

01:19:52.000 And I don't think it would be an unfriendly, you know, hostile event in any way.

01:19:57.000 That being said, you know, it's a primary, bro.

01:19:59.000 You know, you gotta go into these things.

01:20:02.000 But the perception of it is just so bad.

01:20:05.000 If you look weak, you look terrified.

01:20:09.000 If he showed up, the response from the Trump supporters would be to shake his hand and say, I respect everything you're doing in Florida.

01:20:15.000 I hope you understand why we're supporting Trump.

01:20:17.000 I think you're doing a good job.

01:20:18.000 They wouldn't attack him.

01:20:19.000 And that's his opportunity to make a case.

01:20:21.000 You know what I think?

01:20:22.000 I don't think he has an argument.

01:20:24.000 I don't think he actually has formulated how he actually says you should vote for me over Trump.

01:20:28.000 He doesn't have one. He just says I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight back. He he'll make these these odd sort of

01:20:35.000 Persuasions about Oh personnel well personnel, you know personnel

01:20:40.000 personnel is going to be going to be going to be key.

01:20:42.000 Okay, but what's the argument right?

01:20:44.000 You've got a guy who's got, you know, just just put my, you know, dirty political strategist had on for a second

01:20:50.000 You've got a guy who's got higher name ID than almost anyone

01:20:50.000 here.

01:20:54.000 in the entire world.

01:20:56.000 Someone who's by far the most famous conservative on the face

01:21:00.000 of the planet.

01:21:01.000 So explain to me then, but when given all that and oh, by the way, the majority of the party because remember you

01:21:09.000 run in the party then you run in the general.

01:21:11.000 It's one, then the other.

01:21:12.000 It's not straight to general.

01:21:14.000 So they keep making these weird general election arguments, which are completely baseless, by the way, that only Ron DeSantis can win the general, which there's just no evidence for whatsoever.

01:21:21.000 Well, he can't win the general if he can't win the nomination.

01:21:23.000 But most, I'm not going to say half, the majority of the party feels that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election.

01:21:32.000 They feel that January 6th was about protesting a stolen election and they want Trump to go back and finish the job.

01:21:39.000 That's a really easy sell for a political candidate.

01:21:42.000 If you've got someone who's arguing against that, Uh, it just comes across as really self-centered.

01:21:48.000 It comes across as really selfish. 0.99

01:21:49.000 And quite frankly, it comes across as politically stupid because you could have, he could have gone. 0.97

01:21:56.000 And I said this so many times behind the scenes, all you had to do was say, uh, Donald Trump has unfinished business and I'm going to be supporting him in 2024. 0.96

01:22:06.000 Then, regardless of what happened in that election, all of MAGA would remember that DeSantis had stood by the man who put him in the governor's mansion of Florida.

01:22:16.000 Instead of running this insane betrayal of a backstabbing, raising millions of dollars, laundering it through the Republican Governors Association, putting it then into the governor's race in Florida, which was a non-competitive race, Taking those millions of dollars away from competitive races all around the country.

01:22:33.000 Democrats win, then they blame that on Donald Trump.

01:22:36.000 Then he rolls that same money, which again, which was supposed to go to gubernatorial candidates, into his own presidential campaign.

01:22:44.000 This is where Never Back Down starts, because they roll that over into federal.

01:22:48.000 You can't go one-to-one, but they brought most of it over, the bulk of it.

01:22:51.000 And then claims all the time that he's just on a national book tour and he's not really running for president.

01:22:57.000 It was weird.

01:22:57.000 That really pissed me off too.

01:22:57.000 That was so fake.

01:23:02.000 And all the while, remember, you chose this.

01:23:05.000 You all chose this.

01:23:07.000 You could have sat back, And been handed the baton, the mantle of MAGA as the heir apparent and literally walked into the White House in 2028.

01:23:16.000 But obviously there was someone in his ear saying, you don't want to be tarnished with that brush, right?

01:23:21.000 There was someone who talked him out of seeing Trump and the potential role as an heir apparent as a good thing.

01:23:27.000 Look, you can say what you want, but at the end of the day, I mean, he's his own man.

01:23:34.000 But wouldn't that be what the implication was?

01:23:35.000 Because they had a somewhat positive relationship at one point, and then it was like, well, you could run for president now and challenge Trump, or you could wait four years and do it then.

01:23:44.000 Someone had to convince him that the timing was right now.

01:23:47.000 To me, it seems like the argument must have been you don't want to be branded with the

01:23:50.000 MAGA mantle. 0.78

01:23:51.000 But what argument is that?

01:23:53.000 Because we know the core of the Republican voters are MAGA.

01:23:56.000 They do support Donald Trump.

01:23:57.000 The thing that gets me is that they don't recognize it as a betrayal.

01:24:01.000 They think that it's just some sort of, oh, it's just a free for all.

01:24:05.000 And you know, so anyone can run for president and it's fine.

01:24:07.000 Excuse me.

01:24:09.000 You were a back bench congressman that nobody can, you don't even talk about your own accomplishments from when you were in the house because you don't have any.

01:24:18.000 He was another guy at dinner when we were at Trump tower or Trump hotel in DC.

01:24:22.000 And Oh, by the way, that's right.

01:24:23.000 You were eating dinner out of a building on the front of it was the name of the man that gave you the ability because You know, you were going to run again for Senate against Marco Rubio, but then Marco said that he was going to come back in.

01:24:36.000 So you cucked out of that and said, well, what am I going to do?

01:24:38.000 What are we going to do?

01:24:39.000 And then, okay, because you didn't want to run against little Marco.

01:24:41.000 So then you said, all right, well, I've got this infrastructure statewide.

01:24:45.000 Maybe I can roll that into a governor's race.

01:24:47.000 So you went and did that and you were about to lose to Adam Putnam.

01:24:49.000 And then you came to Trump and then you begged and begged and begged and don't even Did they say I didn't do that?

01:24:54.000 Yes, he did.

01:24:55.000 Yeah, he went and begged for the endorsement.

01:24:55.000 He did.

01:24:57.000 And Trump was going to get behind Putnam because everybody thought that Putnam was going to be the guy.

01:25:01.000 I was like, fine.

01:25:02.000 We wanted a governor who could win.

01:25:03.000 And remember, Florida was a 50-50 state back then.

01:25:08.000 Andrew Gillum, right? 1.00

01:25:09.000 The, you know, the coke addled sex fiend. 1.00

01:25:13.000 within just a few votes like like less than a percentage of becoming the governor of Florida 0.95

01:25:22.000 and if it was only for Donald Trump and only for the MAGA grassroots who went down there

01:25:28.000 after the election using the slogan.

01:25:30.000 I'm just gonna say it Tim.

01:25:32.000 I'm gonna say it hashtag stop the steal.

01:25:34.000 You're gonna say something else hashtag stop the steal to fight for Ron DeSantis that that

01:25:41.000 put that over and won Broward County.

01:25:44.000 And there's no recognition of any of that work.

01:25:46.000 There's no recognition of those rallies.

01:25:48.000 There's no recognition or even thanks for putting you there.

01:25:52.000 It's I'm going to run against you because I think I'm better.

01:25:56.000 And yes, I'm sure there are people who, you know, found some way to, you know, use verbal judo to be able to say that it's not betrayal, but it is.

01:26:04.000 And I'm sorry, it just is.

01:26:05.000 See, that makes me want to know who did it.

01:26:07.000 Like, what part of the Republican donor class or what political operative was like, this is a great idea, we should do it.

01:26:14.000 I wish that we could have a name because that would be interesting to know who twisted one political career because, you know, Donald Trump has a lot to offer the country.

01:26:23.000 He could only be president for four more years.

01:26:25.000 Who is after him?

01:26:25.000 There is a darker potential read on that.

01:26:30.000 You know, because, you know, we were just talking about Kissinger, right?

01:26:32.000 So who would want to talk someone into destroying their own political future by convincing them to do a political suicide run against the most famous conservative in a generation?

01:26:44.000 Somebody who wants the neolibs and the neocons to regain power and Bingo.

01:26:48.000 push them all out. Right. So you incite a MAGA civil war.

01:26:51.000 Yep. Which is exactly what happened.

01:26:53.000 You you get you pit MAGA against each other. You split them down the middle.

01:26:58.000 And to be fair, like I actually expected to Santa's to run like a real campaign.

01:27:02.000 I have no idea. He did not run a real campaign. It was so bizarre. I mean,

01:27:06.000 there are ways you can drop bombs on Trump from the right, but they just they just never did.

01:27:10.000 It never came.

01:27:11.000 It was this weird, like, insinuation kind of thing, and then, you know, they've kind of started to now, but the attacks are, like, really weird and confusing and very, like— And cringe!

01:27:20.000 Yeah, they said he had a foot fetish, like— Right?

01:27:23.000 That stuff is weird, too.

01:27:24.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:27:24.000 Like, this is the opposite of meme magic.

01:27:26.000 So, it's a great example of— Well, because they can't run against his policies.

01:27:29.000 It's a great example of so you're talking about me magic before and by the way there's a whole other theory I have and maybe it's more of a third hour theory that the lockdowns in 2020 were actually designed to prevent me magic from seeping back into reality so me magic was kept on lockdown because remember right all of this station remember folks remember never lose sight of the prize we are in a time traveler Chrono war with the globalists. That's what's really going

01:27:57.000 on right? What do you mean? Well, Steve Bannon our third hour

01:28:01.000 Steve Bannon is a bear from the future. That's right. Who's been sent back to guide his father

01:28:05.000 There's a height no differential with the time-space continuum. No, it's you know, when you get older you get

01:28:10.000 shorter But Steve Bannon's actually pretty tall.

01:28:15.000 He's taller than average.

01:28:16.000 Yeah.

01:28:17.000 He's not 7'1".

01:28:20.000 No, but I'm not saying like he's not 5'6", 5'7". 0.80

01:28:21.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:28:24.000 But I mean, to be fair, Baron's like 7 feet tall.

01:28:26.000 But yeah, Baron is enormous.

01:28:28.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

01:28:29.000 Yeah, well, but to my point, though, is that we never get the Civil War.

01:28:37.000 So the Civil War, you know, it starts, but then it stops.

01:28:40.000 They have these completely strange attacks on him.

01:28:43.000 They go and make these absolutely boneheaded political decisions, like agreeing to debate a guy who's not even running for president.

01:28:51.000 Right, what's up with that?

01:28:52.000 That's so weird.

01:28:52.000 And platforming him, which only has upside for Newsom, right?

01:28:56.000 There's no upside for DeSantis.

01:28:57.000 There's no upside for DeSantis, and plenty of potential downside.

01:28:59.000 Because if he loses, he looks really bad, and if he wins, like, he's supposed to.

01:29:02.000 It doesn't matter.

01:29:02.000 He's supposed to, and he's like, I got somebody who's not running.

01:29:05.000 Right, getting him to agree was all Newsom needed.

01:29:09.000 So now suddenly Newsom's got people talking about him as a presidential candidate, which plays into his interests.

01:29:15.000 In the Democrat shadow primary that's going on right now because they want Biden to drop out.

01:29:20.000 They want him to do this.

01:29:21.000 Jill won't let it happen because, I mean, it was rough, dude.

01:29:25.000 And you could see Biden looking at, like, giving the side eye to Jimmy Carter, right, at that funeral yesterday.

01:29:29.000 And you could tell that he's looking at him going, I also want to be in hospice, you're right.

01:29:34.000 Well, it's rough knowing that that's what's right around the corner.

01:29:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:38.000 It's rough seeing it and being confronted with Because deep down he knows, right?

01:29:43.000 He knows.

01:29:43.000 Well, he's got the dementia shuffle going on.

01:29:46.000 Folks, he's not getting better.

01:29:47.000 What did he say?

01:29:48.000 Trump was a congressman?

01:29:50.000 Yeah, earlier today he said something about Trump as a congressman.

01:29:52.000 Look, his Christmas tree fell over.

01:29:54.000 It's a sign that everyone thinks he can't make it, including the universe.

01:29:57.000 There were even reports early on after October 7th.

01:30:01.000 It's just a symbol of his administration.

01:30:03.000 It's not great.

01:30:04.000 That Biden was confusing Hamas and Russia and the Israel-Ukraine situation.

01:30:09.000 He's tired!

01:30:10.000 He's been confusing Ukraine and Iraq for years.

01:30:12.000 Ukraine and Iraq, yeah.

01:30:13.000 It's hard to keep these things straight, especially when you can't remember anything.

01:30:15.000 You couldn't brief him on what was going on because he would say, well, why would Putin do that?

01:30:19.000 And they're like, Putin didn't invade Israel.

01:30:22.000 Like, how would he do that?

01:30:24.000 Come on, man, we gotta bomb Lichtenstein! 0.98

01:30:28.000 And it's just bad. 0.77

01:30:29.000 It's just so bad.

01:30:30.000 But, you know, it's the one thing that's sad to me is that, you know, I look at the Republican Party and, you know, you look at a guy like Ron DeSantis, who at one point, what I think everyone considered to be just a rising star.

01:30:42.000 Someone had an incredibly bright future.

01:30:44.000 And then you look at these guys, like I said before, like Lil Marco, like Scott Walker, You know, Tim Ryan, Tim Pawlenty, T-Paw.

01:30:55.000 Anyone remember T-Paw?

01:30:56.000 You guys wouldn't even know what I'm talking about.

01:30:57.000 Yeah, I forgot about him.

01:30:58.000 There were all these young guns out there who were going to be the next heir apparent to the party that are just complete nobodies now.

01:31:06.000 And it's like, good job, dude.

01:31:07.000 You decided to troll yourself into a relic.

01:31:10.000 But this was a conversation I got hearing from a lot of people.

01:31:12.000 I think I remember Ben Shapiro saying it in particular.

01:31:15.000 With DeSantis they said either you run now or you lose your moment.

01:31:18.000 You don't know that the momentum will be there in four years.

01:31:20.000 I think that tactic scares a lot of people into bad positions, right?

01:31:25.000 So that's insecurity.

01:31:27.000 What that is is that's insecurity.

01:31:28.000 So you're saying that I'm not good enough on my own and deep down you think that you're not good enough on your own.

01:31:35.000 And so you have this insecurity that I need the trappings of power.

01:31:39.000 I need the ability to be the governor while I'm running.

01:31:42.000 Therefore, it doesn't matter that I can immediately after winning reelection from the voters of your state, then turn around and by the way, not just betray Trump, but betray the voters of your own state, your own electorate and say, I'm not going to stay here and serve the people of this state who, by the way, I've seen their insurance rates go up I mean, they're being hit by hurricane after hurricane just of insurance rates.

01:32:07.000 Not only are you going to betray the guy that put you in office, you're going to betray the people who literally just voted for you to be their governor, and you're going to go gallivanting around the country running for president in a campaign that has completely no sense of itself, and no chance, and no reason for being.

01:32:23.000 So what do you think DeSantis should have done?

01:32:24.000 Because he's term-limited, right?

01:32:25.000 He couldn't have run for governor again.

01:32:27.000 Endorse!

01:32:28.000 Endorse!

01:32:28.000 Just endorse!

01:32:29.000 And then what would he have done in the interlude for the four years?

01:32:31.000 Whatever you want!

01:32:32.000 But if he wants to stay in office, that's my thing.

01:32:35.000 Why do you have to stay in office?

01:32:37.000 Well, he could have been VP.

01:32:38.000 He could have been VP.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, he could have been VP.

01:32:41.000 Could he have?

01:32:41.000 They're both from Florida, though.

01:32:42.000 He could have been.

01:32:43.000 Then one of them changes the residence.

01:32:44.000 It's not that hard.

01:32:45.000 Chaney did it.

01:32:46.000 And Trump's in Bedminster anyway, in New Jersey.

01:32:51.000 Or he could be appointed Secretary of whatever.

01:32:54.000 He could have been Attorney General.

01:32:56.000 He could have been Secretary of State.

01:32:57.000 He would have been a good Attorney General.

01:32:59.000 He was a JAG officer.

01:33:01.000 But it's interesting they were just basically able to scare him into if you don't do it now your career is over.

01:33:06.000 It made no sense.

01:33:07.000 And I, I remember talking to, I'll just say DC people, DC insiders, who they, they was that same exact line.

01:33:13.000 We has to do it now.

01:33:14.000 And, you know, Christy, Christy missed his chance in to run in 2012.

01:33:18.000 We're coming off of the governorship and you got to do it.

01:33:21.000 You got to strike when the iron is hot.

01:33:23.000 And it's like, read the room, man, just read the room.

01:33:26.000 And so that being said, you know, I'm glad that this all happened this way, because if someone's political instincts are that bad, imagine if he was actually in the oval office.

01:33:34.000 Right?

01:33:35.000 Imagine if he's in the Oval Office, and now he's got those people in his ear that are convincing him how to act, and they're saying, you gotta do it.

01:33:42.000 You just gotta bomb Iran. 1.00

01:33:44.000 You just gotta do it. 0.99

01:33:45.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

01:33:46.000 You gotta bomb Iran. 1.00

01:33:47.000 You gotta strike while the iron's hot. 0.98

01:33:49.000 They paid Hamas off. 0.93

01:33:50.000 You just gotta go.

01:33:51.000 And there were people like Lindsey Graham who just, you know, anything happens.

01:33:55.000 He's like, bomb Iran. 0.99

01:33:56.000 Henry Kissinger died. 0.99

01:33:57.000 Bomb Iran. 0.99

01:33:58.000 Well, he's got a bomberang because they killed his Kissinger. 0.91

01:34:00.000 No, no, he's 100 years old, Lindsay.

01:34:02.000 Like, no, just, well, I mean, it's like the second coming.

01:34:04.000 In his memory, we have to do that.

01:34:05.000 Yeah, second coming of McCain in many ways.

01:34:08.000 And then you get John McCain-Heels, who is Nikki Haley, you know, running, which I love, you know, having Jamie Dimon come out for her at that same event.

01:34:15.000 You know, so it's like Wall Street basically just saying, yes, we fully support the military-industrial complex.

01:34:21.000 Let's get it all back together.

01:34:22.000 So the neocons keep trying to sort of, like, come back in.

01:34:27.000 And to some extent, a lot of them lined up behind DeSantis as well.

01:34:30.000 So I think you had a lot of these vested interests that were shut out of the Trump administration and certainly didn't agree with Trump on foreign policy, absolutely didn't agree with him when it came to trade, certainly didn't agree with him when it came to immigration, and they saw Ron DeSantis as a sort of vehicle whereby they could push their own interests and their own agenda by potentially seeing if they could unseat Trump in the primary.

01:34:55.000 You know, there was definitely an opening that DeSantis, I think, could have made it, you know, maybe a little bit more competitive, but just the way that he conducted himself, it is going to be studied for years to come as just a complete debacle of a presidential campaign and a total misunderstanding of how politics works in the Internet era.

01:35:16.000 Well, you brought up the book tour, too, which I remember when that was happening.

01:35:19.000 And you're just looking around going, he's running.

01:35:21.000 Why won't he just say he's running?

01:35:23.000 Why won't he just say he's running?

01:35:24.000 And the people that surround him in this campaign have really advised him so poorly.

01:35:28.000 They tell him to stay away from certain press.

01:35:30.000 They tell him to go all in on other stuff.

01:35:33.000 They're telling him to stay away from TPUSA.

01:35:35.000 They came up with that ridiculous announcement on Twitter, which didn't make any sense because it was the most lackluster possible announcement.

01:35:42.000 You know, there were ways to make that work and be effective.

01:35:45.000 And fun and buoyant, and it just wasn't.

01:35:47.000 Well, and let me like I'm just gonna say it they were lying to people they were lying to people like crazy

01:35:53.000 Saying that he wasn't running he said it was and you know, he slipped up the other day kept saying it

01:35:58.000 He slipped up the other day on that Laura Ingraham interview where he said, you know back in

01:36:03.000 2022 I was the only candidate who said that we should have change at the RNC

01:36:08.000 And then he catches himself.

01:36:10.000 I mean, I was the only one who became later a candidate.

01:36:14.000 Is that what he said?

01:36:15.000 Who became later a candidate?

01:36:17.000 Something along those lines. 0.97

01:36:18.000 That's ridiculous. 0.83

01:36:19.000 So he catches himself before she says something and then he came in to correct it. 0.92

01:36:23.000 But it was that classic Freudian slip where he knew that he'd basically just given away the game to say, yeah, OK, yeah, obviously I was running for president.

01:36:33.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats!

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01:36:47.000 But we're gonna have that members-only uncensored show coming up at 10.

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01:37:02.000 For that special announcement.

01:37:03.000 Uh, special, uh, announcement, we'll call it that.

01:37:06.000 Alright, uh, Kilted Carnivore says, not first again, despite the fact you are first, sir.

01:37:11.000 You see, he's hedging his bet.

01:37:13.000 He doesn't know if he's gonna be first, so he says he's not, then when he is, it's, oh look, you know, there I was actually first.

01:37:18.000 He has to have some more confidence, he can't be like DeSantis over here.

01:37:21.000 Yeah.

01:37:22.000 You gotta be a little more confident.

01:37:23.000 Ridley Scott has this whole movie about how men shouldn't be ambitious, and it's called Napoleon, but it's not about the actual Napoleon.

01:37:32.000 It's about a guy who thinks he's Napoleon, and he's just constantly getting cucked by his wife, and that it leads him to more poorer and poorer decisions.

01:37:41.000 Whereas the real Napoleon was someone who was increasingly confident and was willing to be that man of destiny, as Hegel described him.

01:37:50.000 Yeah.

01:37:50.000 Alright, we got AlphaTurk who says, Disney should be awarded a defense contract after producing more bombs than Lockheed Martin.

01:37:56.000 That's a good one.

01:37:57.000 That's amusing.

01:37:57.000 Amusing.

01:38:00.000 Need drums in here so she can do the rim shot. 1.00

01:38:02.000 We have a cajon.

01:38:03.000 We do actually have drums here, that's true.

01:38:04.000 Zurg, get out, rim shot! 1.00

01:38:05.000 We'll have drums here for this Friday.

01:38:07.000 They want to do full band.

01:38:09.000 They do.

01:38:10.000 Wow, okay, that's going to be great.

01:38:11.000 Are you producing on Friday?

01:38:13.000 I hope we can do the audio, I think I should work out.

01:38:15.000 The Defiant is going to be here.

01:38:17.000 So, super excited.

01:38:18.000 Seriously?

01:38:18.000 Yeah, it's Dickie Barrett and Pete Parada.

01:38:20.000 Oh my gosh.

01:38:21.000 Yeah.

01:38:22.000 All right, I'm gonna fly back from Japan just for that.

01:38:25.000 And then go back.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, we're having him on the show.

01:38:29.000 Pete Prada, of course, he's done drums for our music.

01:38:31.000 He's super cool, super cool dude.

01:38:32.000 Dickie Barrett, everybody knows.

01:38:33.000 Come on, he's mighty mighty boss tones.

01:38:35.000 So are you guys like doing show and then the last hours then?

01:38:39.000 At 10, they're gonna play some music.

01:38:42.000 And we have this massive band set up.

01:38:44.000 It's gonna be awesome.

01:38:45.000 So I guess we're gonna have a full drum set.

01:38:47.000 Is it members only?

01:38:48.000 No, no, no, no.

01:38:49.000 Live on YouTube.

01:38:50.000 Live on YouTube at 10.

01:38:51.000 Yep.

01:38:52.000 And then what we're going to do is, when we book more and more musical guests for the end of the show on Friday night, we're going to put those clips on the Trash House Records YouTube to have this, like, library of music.

01:39:04.000 That's awesome.

01:39:04.000 And we'll probably do other special events.

01:39:06.000 Super excited.

01:39:06.000 I keep telling Phil, like, we want All That Remains, and he's like, yeah, we'll get it.

01:39:10.000 I'm like, come on, man.

01:39:11.000 Like, we want All That Remains.

01:39:12.000 Can they do acoustic stuff?

01:39:13.000 It has to be an acoustic set.

01:39:14.000 It's like a Tiny Desk concert that, like, MDR does, right?

01:39:16.000 They can do it on plug.

01:39:17.000 I mean, I guess The Defiant's gonna go full band.

01:39:20.000 I mean, we definitely have the means to do it.

01:39:23.000 We just need more space.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, it's just, the new studio's bigger, and so it'll be a lot easier.

01:39:28.000 There's enough space there.

01:39:30.000 Yeah, there's enough, for sure.

01:39:31.000 I would panic the cameras guys, but they're off right now.

01:39:33.000 We're just gonna have to move the cameras, because the original setup was like two seats, acoustic set, and they were like, we could do full band, and I'm like, alright, let's roll.

01:39:42.000 Carter's been overtime on it, but we'll get it done.

01:39:43.000 I was gonna say, are you producing or is Carter?

01:39:46.000 Carter will be here for the after show.

01:39:48.000 We haven't really decided yet.

01:39:48.000 We'll figure that out tomorrow.

01:39:50.000 Yeah.

01:39:50.000 Yeah, capturing all of that live sound is not going to be easy.

01:39:54.000 It's a lot.

01:39:55.000 But I think we've got it easily.

01:39:59.000 It's just, you know, Carter is really great at getting that music, so I think we'll be good.

01:40:03.000 Let's grab some more.

01:40:05.000 Andrew Lignal says, YouTube won't let me write any variation of F after the word go.

01:40:11.000 I just wanted to cheer on Elon.

01:40:15.000 Well, we got in the title, I guess.

01:40:16.000 I wonder if it negatively impacted the show.

01:40:18.000 And if you wagered, Texas with the dollar sign.

01:40:20.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 We'll grab some more super chats.

01:40:25.000 Bricktop says, Jack, why do you always look so sad in photos?

01:40:30.000 This is what not sad looks like.

01:40:34.000 Let's do that again.

01:40:39.000 That is very un-Jack expression.

01:40:41.000 Alright, T-Rex Pet Shop says, You know we're winning when the news lies about a Kansas Chiefs fan calling a kid racist, but he ends up being Native American. 0.61

01:40:48.000 Must be embarrassing.

01:40:50.000 They can't find racism, they have to lie about it.

01:40:52.000 Yo, that story's so wild.

01:40:53.000 This gets better and better every day.

01:40:55.000 This Native American kid wears a headdress. 0.99

01:40:58.000 His grandfather is like a chieftain.

01:41:00.000 Yes!

01:41:00.000 Like a tribal council leader.

01:41:02.000 Isn't his dad like on the chief's board or something?

01:41:04.000 Like he's an actual Kansas City chief.

01:41:08.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:41:09.000 And they were like, he's racist for wearing half black, half red. 0.67

01:41:13.000 And then they showed the video of him doing the tomahawk with like a bunch of black. 1.00

01:41:17.000 The black team members are doing the chop with the job with him and the kids, Native American. 1.00

01:41:23.000 And his grandfather is on a tribal government council. 0.97

01:41:25.000 He's like, he's a chief.

01:41:27.000 Yeah.

01:41:28.000 Which I was gonna say all the naming of American sports teams after Native American warriors, Indian warriors.

01:41:36.000 You know, it was supposed to be a mark of honor as in these are incredible warriors.

01:41:43.000 They're aspirational.

01:41:46.000 You wouldn't want to name yourself after like a loser or someone who's like, it's always meant as a badge of honor.

01:41:52.000 What's the thing they do in New Zealand?

01:41:54.000 Oh, the haka.

01:41:55.000 That thing is so cool when they do that.

01:41:58.000 I love when they do that.

01:42:01.000 No, I just think it's cool when they do that.

01:42:03.000 I mean, New Zealanders are white.

01:42:05.000 Libby was doing her haka the other day. 0.89

01:42:06.000 We asked her politely but firmly to stop the haka. 1.00

01:42:11.000 I was reading about Maori fighters, I was playing Civilization, and they were crazy. 1.00

01:42:17.000 European colonists struggled against them more than any other indigenous population.

01:42:22.000 That's why there's a lot of Maori.

01:42:24.000 They didn't get rid of them.

01:42:26.000 And that's why, I don't know the history, but something like often the Europeans conquered, and I think with the Maori it was like a ceasefire.

01:42:34.000 Yeah, the British were trying to take over New Zealand, they just couldn't really.

01:42:37.000 Yeah, the Maori warriors were just like, ain't gonna happen. 0.97

01:42:40.000 The other thing too with the removal of Indian names and Indian symbols in America, with all of that removal.

01:42:45.000 They didn't do that in New Zealand.

01:42:47.000 No, we're doing it here though.

01:42:48.000 And what's happening is that is basically going to spell the erasure of Indian culture from Mainstream culture, because we're not seeing a whole bunch of, you know, indigenous Native American culture coming up.

01:43:01.000 We're just destroying what has been there representing them.

01:43:04.000 They took away Aunt Jemima.

01:43:06.000 Yeah, I hate that.

01:43:06.000 That's so offensive.

01:43:07.000 I remember on the side, I remember big rigs, you know, just on the highway, they used to always have like an Indian chief.

01:43:15.000 On the door, or on the hood, or something.

01:43:18.000 And the cigar store Indians. 1.00

01:43:19.000 Yeah, it was just a symbol that you would see around.

01:43:22.000 It was never meant as, like, mocking.

01:43:24.000 It was just Americana.

01:43:26.000 But we destroyed it because we're, you know, progressive and we're good at understanding people.

01:43:30.000 But we're not going to fix the reservation system.

01:43:32.000 No.

01:43:33.000 And apparently it's less racist to erase Indian culture from American culture than it is to honor it and see it.

01:43:40.000 Look at Lando Lakes.

01:43:41.000 They got rid of the Native American, but they kept the land. 0.99

01:43:43.000 And the crazy thing about that is it was a Native American guy who drew that picture.

01:43:46.000 Meanwhile, Cousin Tease is now here to solve this problem. 1.00

01:43:50.000 He wasn't self-hating.

01:43:51.000 He drew it as a point of pride.

01:43:54.000 He loved it.

01:43:55.000 He was so proud of his drawing.

01:43:57.000 But he was brainwashed a little bit.

01:43:58.000 You don't understand because you were brainwashed too.

01:44:01.000 Classic post-millennial.

01:44:03.000 Look, we need to figure out how to get this anti-Times Square speeding up.

01:44:06.000 I've got too many spinning plates.

01:44:08.000 And so with what we're doing with the coffee shop, I'm like, we want to have this strip in Martinsburg be all of these parallel economy businesses.

01:44:15.000 We got to figure out how to ramp that up.

01:44:17.000 And I don't know.

01:44:17.000 Yeah.

01:44:17.000 Cause I want to come hang out.

01:44:18.000 Yeah.

01:44:19.000 Yeah.

01:44:19.000 I'm like, we should have an angel studios movie theater.

01:44:22.000 You know, it's like, how do we wrangle all these cats and say, guys, like, let's prioritize this.

01:44:26.000 All the, all the marketing runoff is pure gold for everybody.

01:44:29.000 Like your businesses will succeed next to another business.

01:44:32.000 You know, I was telling Jeremy Love, Michael Knoll's a cigar shop.

01:44:35.000 I think you'd have to work with the companies that are already there, because there is a cigar shop in Martinsburg.

01:44:40.000 It's been around forever.

01:44:41.000 I think you'd have to get product there, you know what I mean?

01:44:43.000 Right, because the one rule is you can't disrupt the generational businesses.

01:44:47.000 The generational businesses have to be reinforced.

01:44:50.000 So the people who are like third or fourth generation in Martinsburg should be succeeding and expanding.

01:44:56.000 That's the goal.

01:44:56.000 But it'd be cool if the one that's there is the only place in town you can buy Michael's cigars and drive traffic there.

01:45:02.000 Exactly.

01:45:02.000 There are ways to partner with it, I think.

01:45:04.000 That's right.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, that's a great idea.

01:45:06.000 All right.

01:45:07.000 Shard Falcors Gaming says, cast brew instant Crosslands coffee crystals.

01:45:11.000 We're working on Graphene Dream.

01:45:13.000 That's Ian's signature blend.

01:45:15.000 I miss Ian.

01:45:16.000 I miss him when I'm not here.

01:45:18.000 He's gone.

01:45:18.000 He just ditched us.

01:45:19.000 I miss Mrs. Musk.

01:45:20.000 Became a cloud of graphene and drifted away.

01:45:23.000 I miss his aura.

01:45:25.000 His aura's still a little bit here.

01:45:27.000 We have a lot of little Ian toys over here.

01:45:29.000 Little glass mushrooms.

01:45:30.000 Little glass mushrooms.

01:45:32.000 Graphene is still here.

01:45:33.000 Little rocks.

01:45:33.000 There's graphene.

01:45:34.000 Infused with Ian.

01:45:35.000 He just keeps getting more and more rocks.

01:45:37.000 I mean, I gotta be honest, I bought him a lot of these rocks.

01:45:39.000 What were you thinking?

01:45:40.000 He likes rocks.

01:45:42.000 And so it's like... Here's the graphene.

01:45:43.000 It would be good for the growing boy to give him.

01:45:46.000 We go out and they're like, dude, a lot of stores sell rocks.

01:45:49.000 I'm not kidding.

01:45:49.000 My son used to collect rocks.

01:45:52.000 I don't know what happened to that collection.

01:45:53.000 Especially in this area.

01:45:54.000 You go to a gas station, they'll have bags of rocks.

01:45:56.000 A gift!

01:45:57.000 That and soap, right?

01:45:59.000 Right.

01:46:00.000 They like rocks out here.

01:46:01.000 The rocks are good.

01:46:02.000 I mean, that's what built this entire community.

01:46:06.000 Let's read this one.

01:46:07.000 DMZ Pro says, Hey Tim, are these late night shows like Kimmel really getting millions of views on their YouTube videos in a day, or could the numbers be sus?

01:46:15.000 Um, that's default.

01:46:17.000 That's normies.

01:46:18.000 And so the way it works is, when you go to YouTube, like, like, open a private tab and open up YouTube, and then guess what you're gonna see.

01:46:25.000 Congratulations.

01:46:26.000 So, I wouldn't say that people are enjoying the content, but people are certainly being force-fed it.

01:46:32.000 It's like it's front-loaded.

01:46:33.000 Yeah, and it's such BS because if you, like, this is proof of, in my opinion, narrative collusion with big tech.

01:46:40.000 I mean, there's a bunch of hard reasons, but come on.

01:46:43.000 You have, with Patrick Bet-David, with Steven Crowder, with Timcast IRL, insert any other organically grown podcast or show, And the math is simple.

01:46:56.000 If someone made a show from the ground up on their own without external support, it must be good.

01:47:01.000 If you are dumping millions into maintaining this show that is losing ratings, it must be bad.

01:47:06.000 So why then does YouTube put them on the front page?

01:47:08.000 Well, and again, because if you remember that during the writer strike, all of them went off air and nobody noticed for a while.

01:47:16.000 Right.

01:47:16.000 And then at one point they tried to launch like a joint... I forget what it was called.

01:47:20.000 Do you remember what it was called?

01:47:21.000 Strike Force Five.

01:47:21.000 Strike Force... Stephen Colbert.

01:47:23.000 Ridiculous name. 0.88

01:47:23.000 Yeah, it was all of these... Where they all came together just like this and it was awful and nobody watched it. 0.88

01:47:31.000 And they were saying how any revenue would go to the writers who weren't getting paid because they were on strike.

01:47:37.000 So I actually felt guilty and watched it a sympathy.

01:47:39.000 I did not watch it.

01:47:41.000 Not you, but maybe others did.

01:47:42.000 I'm gonna say I think the views may be fake in some capacity or they're just like those websites where it says 25 photos of celebrities and you've never seen and then when you load it, there's 800 ads.

01:47:54.000 And then whenever you want to see the next photo, you got to click next.

01:47:56.000 That's probably what they're the kind of views they're getting.

01:47:58.000 I get all my news from the Postmillennial, but after that I get all my news from those click pages.

01:48:04.000 I'm the guy who clicks on all of them.

01:48:05.000 I click on those too.

01:48:06.000 I just sit and click those all day long.

01:48:08.000 Here's a point I want to make.

01:48:09.000 When they can't drive any kind of real influence, then they don't matter at all.

01:48:14.000 Even if someone did watch, they're not having any impact on the individuals.

01:48:19.000 Shows like this are.

01:48:20.000 Patrick, Matt, David, Crowder, obviously.

01:48:23.000 These are shows that are actually influencing people.

01:48:25.000 And, uh, you know, we talked to, uh, I think Matt Gaetz brought this up.

01:48:29.000 He's like, man, it's so different.

01:48:30.000 You go on Fox News and no one ever brings it up.

01:48:33.000 You go on Timcast and everyone's like, oh, I saw you on Timcast.

01:48:36.000 Like, cause these shows are real people watching.

01:48:38.000 It's also, and you know, this is a difference between active engaged viewership versus cable news, which is passive.

01:48:46.000 So cable news is a passive viewership because it's on, but it's on the background.

01:48:51.000 So, my parents aren't like this, but if you were over your parents' house for Thanksgiving

01:48:56.000 or your grandparents, you notice they just kind of always have a TV on

01:48:59.000 that's just in the house, and it's on and it's there,

01:49:02.000 and it's filling the background.

01:49:04.000 Yeah, it's like white noise.

01:49:05.000 And then you can kind of tell what side of the political aisle they're on

01:49:08.000 depending on what they're watching.

01:49:09.000 So if it's Fox or if it's CNN or it's MSNBC, like you're really in for it if it's there.

01:49:15.000 And so that doesn't mean though that they're sitting down and actively engaging

01:49:21.000 in what they're listening to.

01:49:22.000 And so, yeah, they might be on in whatever Nielsen X number of households, but that doesn't mean that, to Gates's point, okay, you're on in the household, but those households aren't necessarily paying attention.

01:49:33.000 Whereas a show like this, a show like Human Events, a show like War Room, you've got to search that out.

01:49:39.000 Exactly.

01:49:40.000 And so you're going to be actively listening to it.

01:49:42.000 This, of course, by the way, comes up a ton in Uh, podcast advertising where they say, okay, it may not be as many viewers or listeners as cable news, but they're more engaged, which means your conversion rate is going to be higher.

01:49:53.000 Yep.

01:49:53.000 So that's, that's another big component is, uh, when people went and we see this with our own sales with Casper, it's the sales are way higher doing direct shout outs as opposed to buying ads.

01:50:03.000 That's right.

01:50:03.000 Let's read this.

01:50:04.000 When we got Ryan Kirchmeyer says, PBD had Chris Cuomo on.

01:50:07.000 He sounded a lot like you.

01:50:08.000 What happened?

01:50:09.000 And would you have him on?

01:50:10.000 Did Patrick bet David asking him about staging that fake, uh, COVID?

01:50:15.000 When he climbed out of his basement and said, I just came out of my basement, like right after he'd been at a party in the Hampton.

01:50:20.000 No, he was at his house.

01:50:21.000 He was at his property.

01:50:22.000 But he had been at a party.

01:50:22.000 Right.

01:50:24.000 He was at a party before that?

01:50:25.000 Yeah.

01:50:25.000 I knew that he was at, he was visiting.

01:50:27.000 Wasn't at a party?

01:50:27.000 Well, he was seen out.

01:50:29.000 He was seen on his property, which was under construction.

01:50:32.000 So I'd love to have him on.

01:50:33.000 And the first question is, why did you fake being in quarantine during COVID?

01:50:38.000 Were you told, like first question, then whatever he says, I, Direct an answer, and then I'd say, were you directed to do this by your superiors at CNN?

01:50:48.000 Yeah.

01:50:48.000 Maybe the guy would be like, yeah, we faked it.

01:50:49.000 They told me to.

01:50:50.000 I'd be like, wow.

01:50:51.000 So if he wants to come on the show, I'd love to have him on and be fantastic.

01:50:54.000 And that's the first question I have.

01:50:55.000 I think he generally said something more along the lines of like, hey, there were a lot of things I did that I'm not proud of.

01:51:02.000 He didn't answer it.

01:51:03.000 No, he didn't ask the question directly, but there was like a general sense.

01:51:07.000 Did PBD ask, why did you fake being under quarantine?

01:51:10.000 I didn't see that.

01:51:12.000 Yeah, I feel like we need more specific questions for this guy, otherwise he's gonna give a lot of skating on the edge and general answers.

01:51:18.000 Right, so I get that he wants to be like, oh, I'm just a fair guy now, I'm not in the tank.

01:51:23.000 Okay, that's fine, but you need to actually come clean about all the things that you did.

01:51:28.000 But if he doesn't come clean, he gets enough sympathy and potentially he could go back in.

01:51:32.000 Because that's ultimately what he really wants.

01:51:34.000 He has a show now, right?

01:51:36.000 That's 100% right.

01:51:37.000 He has a show on some channel.

01:51:37.000 Does he have a show?

01:51:39.000 No, but her point is that if he doesn't attack CNN and they get new leadership, he can come back.

01:51:39.000 On NewsNation.

01:51:47.000 NewsNation is not the same thing.

01:51:48.000 He wants to go back.

01:51:49.000 Well, let's read this.

01:51:50.000 We got Stronger Than Stone says, I respect you, Tim, but I really wish you would lay off the UFO stuff.

01:51:54.000 It's fine if you don't believe it, but please don't insult your fans that do.

01:51:58.000 If you took any of that as an insult to people who believe in UFOs, you have internalized that and you are, it's something inside you, man.

01:52:09.000 When did I say the UFOs weren't real?

01:52:12.000 You said they were exploiting people.

01:52:14.000 They release UFO information.

01:52:17.000 No, I think I said it's real.

01:52:17.000 Real or fake.

01:52:19.000 Like, a guy will see a UFO, and then they'll have a document, but it doesn't matter to them.

01:52:23.000 And then when the Hunter Biden stuff comes out, they'll release it.

01:52:26.000 So yeah, I believe these guys are seeing strange phenomena.

01:52:29.000 I wonder what they are.

01:52:30.000 My thing is that the Biden administration, rather than being like, we're gonna give this to you in honesty and transparency, this stuff that's going on that you guys have been raising questions about, they're using it to cover up their own scheme.

01:52:39.000 And that's what's cheapening the experience.

01:52:41.000 Remember the Titanic submarine?

01:52:42.000 Yeah, that was a total cover-up.

01:52:43.000 They did the Titanic submarine right when the Hunter Biden report was coming out, and they lied and said, remember the pinging?

01:52:51.000 Oh, we hear pinging!

01:52:52.000 Oh, you know, that's going on.

01:52:53.000 They knew from the start that they had gone.

01:52:55.000 They knew on Sunday, and they did this.

01:52:56.000 They knew, and they lied to the family, they lied to the entire country.

01:53:00.000 Everybody was talking about it.

01:53:02.000 I think I may have been on TimCast during that.

01:53:04.000 That, I mean, it was a huge deal, and we were trying to figure out what was going on, were they trapped?

01:53:08.000 They knew the whole time.

01:53:09.000 Remember, they were like, at this point, they would have run out of oxygen.

01:53:12.000 The Coast Guard was giving us updates.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, the media had like a countdown of the oxygen, and the Biden administration knew all along.

01:53:20.000 Because they had heard an explosion.

01:53:22.000 And then James Cameron came out and started yelling at them.

01:53:24.000 He said, this is a cover-up operation.

01:53:26.000 Well, cause they had heard an explosion on Sunday and they reported to the Coast Guard.

01:53:30.000 It was like the Navy had heard an explosion.

01:53:32.000 They told the Coast Guard that they'd heard an explosion.

01:53:34.000 I remember saying that because I said, look, given where it is in the water, we would have heard that if this thing exploded.

01:53:40.000 So me, you know, I wasn't willing to go there yet to say that the Coast Guard and the Navy would be in on it.

01:53:47.000 Even I, even I couldn't believe that our military and our Coast Guard All right, Logic Plank says, we need to start emailing advertisers who work with woke companies and ask them how they feel about working with Marxist terrorists.

01:53:47.000 Right.

01:54:07.000 Incorrect.

01:54:08.000 That won't do anything.

01:54:09.000 You are in the bottom tier.

01:54:11.000 What would be effective, and I'm not advocating necessarily right now, Would be if you emailed companies and asked them why they were advertising on Disney. 0.99

01:54:21.000 Disney is fascist and supports the murder of Muslims. 1.00

01:54:26.000 And then Disney's gonna, you know, uh-oh. 0.99

01:54:30.000 A big brand is gonna be like, we don't want to be associated with Islamophobia.

01:54:33.000 Well, Disney thanked the security forces that are... I mean, the things they're doing to the Uyghur Muslims are nightmarish. 1.00

01:54:41.000 It's like...

01:54:43.000 I'm at a loss for words.

01:54:44.000 I mean, forced abortions?

01:54:47.000 Rape and murder? 0.96

01:54:47.000 I mean, these things are nightmarish. 0.96

01:54:49.000 And Disney thanked them.

01:54:51.000 It's actually, it's demographic replacement is what they're trying to do.

01:54:54.000 Oh yeah.

01:54:55.000 And this is China's stated goal.

01:54:56.000 The CCP's stated goal in Xinjiang, which by the way, they were doing this to an extent and are doing this to an extent in Tibet as well, which the left used to understand.

01:55:04.000 Well, they call it sinicization.

01:55:07.000 But yeah, they're sending as many Han Chinese there.

01:55:10.000 They're making incentives, financial incentives.

01:55:13.000 So I've been to Xinjiang, I've been to Tibet.

01:55:16.000 Um, that you have, you were financially incentivized to go in there.

01:55:19.000 And even when I was there, uh, over a decade ago, you could tell that there were these huge areas of the city that were all for Han Chinese.

01:55:28.000 And it was all in Mandarin Chinese.

01:55:31.000 Um, you wouldn't see any Arabic anywhere.

01:55:33.000 You wouldn't see any of the Uyghur language.

01:55:35.000 And then you would go to other areas and it's like they became ghettos, ghettoized in their own cities.

01:55:41.000 And that was, that was over a decade ago.

01:55:44.000 Yeah.

01:55:45.000 All right.

01:55:46.000 What do we got here?

01:55:47.000 Mary Everett says, so is my rumble stock finally going to stop falling?

01:55:50.000 I went big two years ago and lost half so far.

01:55:53.000 I have a decent amount of rumble stock.

01:55:55.000 Not, I say decent amount.

01:55:56.000 I don't think it's that much.

01:55:58.000 It's not like I got millions of shares or anything.

01:56:00.000 I have a very small amount.

01:56:03.000 When you buy stock in a new company that goes public, yeah, it goes down.

01:56:07.000 That's literally why they go public.

01:56:08.000 They're raising money.

01:56:10.000 So, if you believe in the company, buy the stock.

01:56:13.000 If you're trying to buy stock to gamble, I don't know, man, that sounds risky.

01:56:16.000 I don't want to give anybody any financial advice.

01:56:18.000 But it sounds to me like a bad idea to be like, I'm going to buy a bunch of stock and then hope I make a bunch of money off it.

01:56:24.000 I mean, maybe you'll get a few percentage gain.

01:56:26.000 I'm actually really confident in the growth of Rumble.

01:56:28.000 That's why I bought stock.

01:56:29.000 I'm like, man, in 5-10 years, this company is going to be massive.

01:56:31.000 These shares are going to be worth a lot of money.

01:56:33.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:34.000 Other than that, just sit around and wait, I guess.

01:56:38.000 I don't know.

01:56:39.000 Do whatever you want.

01:56:40.000 Do what your financial advisor tells you to do.

01:56:42.000 Who was it?

01:56:43.000 All those athletes who did endorsements for Binance and FTX.

01:56:47.000 Right, and they all got sued and stuff.

01:56:49.000 Because they were telling people to do it.

01:56:50.000 Yeah.

01:56:51.000 That's why I'm always like, no financial advice!

01:56:53.000 Yeah.

01:56:54.000 That's like the one, no medical, no financial advice.

01:56:56.000 That's a great story about that because everyone gave their endorsement, like everybody.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:01.000 They were paying fat stacks.

01:57:03.000 Paying fat stacks.

01:57:04.000 All right.

01:57:04.000 Let's see.

01:57:05.000 Where are we at?

01:57:06.000 Where are we at?

01:57:07.000 Paul Tascalo says, Theory Hunter testifies mid-December, puts on a show.

01:57:10.000 That morning, Joe Biden issues a pardon for himself and Hunter, resigns the presidency.

01:57:14.000 Kamala takes over.

01:57:16.000 Dems get their first black female president, freeing Newsom to run in 2024. 0.89

01:57:20.000 Yeah, I mean, all of the permutations of that aren't going to work because Joe and Jill refuse to leave.

01:57:26.000 They're all trying to get them to leave and they just completely refuse.

01:57:29.000 Yeah, they won't give it up.

01:57:31.000 Yep, yep.

01:57:32.000 Where are we at?

01:57:35.000 Loyal Snoop Doge says, less censorship and less advertising.

01:57:38.000 Elon is making Twitter great again.

01:57:41.000 Well, if everybody does sign up for that, you know, for Twitter Pro or whatever, what is it called under the blue check?

01:57:49.000 Blue.

01:57:49.000 Twitter Blue.

01:57:51.000 There you go.

01:57:53.000 Pay for a product that you like and the company runs itself.

01:57:56.000 And then I love the idea that even if you don't want to pay, you can still use it and still read information and still post and do whatever you want.

01:58:03.000 I think Elon's got some pretty great ideas.

01:58:05.000 It's gonna be tough.

01:58:05.000 It's gonna be a challenge, but I hope he wins.

01:58:07.000 He's completely right about the advertisers. 0.98

01:58:09.000 Tell him to screw off.

01:58:11.000 In fact, he should, he said, everyone's going to know the companies that did this.

01:58:14.000 Well, replace the ads that they were supposed to buy with a message saying this company has pulled off ads boycotting the political opinions of people on this platform.

01:58:26.000 You know?

01:58:30.000 You can get real hard with it, actually.

01:58:32.000 I think the reason why Media Matters went after Elon, I think this is actually fairly obvious.

01:58:36.000 Elon announced that from the river to the sea would be banned, that decolonize would be banned, and then immediately Media Matters goes after him, and if you look at the tweets from Media Matters employees, they are anti-Israel.

01:58:47.000 Yeah, they sure are.

01:58:49.000 They went right after Elon because Elon was critical of Hamas and of the leftist protests.

01:58:55.000 You saw there were even members of SPLC's union that signed on to straight-up pro-Hamas statements.

01:59:04.000 So that's why they're going after Elon.

01:59:06.000 And these are the people that lead to advertiser boycotts.

01:59:09.000 Exactly.

01:59:10.000 And these are the people who then, you know, a bunch of Democratic congressmen like Adam Schiff and Dan Goldman signed on to a letter to Twitter and to Elon Musk and Linda Yaccarino talking about how concerned they were about hate speech on the platform and what else.

01:59:28.000 And they were citing media matters.

01:59:30.000 It's like a pipeline.

01:59:31.000 Media matters gets treated like it's a reliable source and it's not.

01:59:34.000 It's just- I feel like we haven't done this in a while.

01:59:44.000 Spin commenced.

01:59:47.000 It's going.

01:59:48.000 That's just what's happening.

01:59:49.000 Imagine saying Tim Kool is anti-UFO when he's got one right next to him.

01:59:54.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool, too.

01:59:55.000 All right, that's going pretty well.

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02:00:19.000 I don't know if announcement's the right word.

02:00:21.000 I have a statement to make that I would like you to hear.

02:00:25.000 A proclamation?

02:00:25.000 Something you want to get off your chest.

02:00:28.000 Something to be said.

02:00:29.000 It's like a confession.

02:00:30.000 Ooh, it's bouncing now.

02:00:32.000 Look at that.

02:00:33.000 Tim is a UFO.

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02:00:39.000 Jack, would you like to shout anything out?

02:00:40.000 Yeah, humanevents.com.

02:00:41.000 Everybody needs to go there.

02:00:43.000 This is your best op-ed, foreign policy site that you can find.

02:00:47.000 Except, of course, for Hannah Clare, who needs to finish her Christmas order over at MyPillow.com. 0.87

02:00:52.000 A lot of pressure in this room tonight to order pillows.

02:00:54.000 I haven't seen the deals.

02:00:56.000 You want me to be online shopping during our conversation?

02:00:59.000 That sounds rude.

02:01:00.000 What do you think I'm doing over here?

02:01:01.000 Oh man, so he admits he's rude.

02:01:03.000 I'm sorry, can people find you on the internet at any social media sites or handles?

02:01:07.000 No, no, I assure you completely.

02:01:09.000 I live the life of a hermit.

02:01:10.000 The people know.

02:01:12.000 Well, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

02:01:13.000 I'm a writer for this cool news site called scnr.com, otherwise known as scanner.com.

02:01:19.000 I'm there with a ton of the people from, or all the people from, the TimCast News team, and I'm grateful to be a part of it.

02:01:24.000 They're working really hard on some cool stuff.

02:01:26.000 If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b, on Twitter at hcbrimlow.

02:01:32.000 You should follow at TimCastNews on all the social media platforms still.

02:01:35.000 You can see Scanner's work there, and of course Libby's with us again.

02:01:39.000 Thanks, Hannah.

02:01:40.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

02:01:41.000 That's a hate crime.

02:01:43.000 Oh my goodness.

02:01:43.000 You're fired.

02:01:44.000 Do you know, I know a lot of Hannahs.

02:01:46.000 And so am I the only Hannah Clare you know?

02:01:49.000 You're the only Hannah Clare that I know.

02:01:51.000 Libby's fired. 1.00

02:01:52.000 Tweet at Libby about how she doesn't know my name.

02:01:53.000 Oh my goodness.

02:01:55.000 That is so narcissistic of you to like, to want my name to be pronounced correctly.

02:01:59.000 I'm sorry that my name means something to me.

02:02:01.000 It means nothing to you.

02:02:03.000 Libby's destroying my identity one second at a time. 0.92

02:02:06.000 Okay.

02:02:06.000 All right.

02:02:06.000 Enough with the transphobic comments.

02:02:08.000 Just come up with a nickname.

02:02:09.000 Right?

02:02:10.000 I'm going to work on that next.

02:02:11.000 Yeah.

02:02:11.000 I'll ask you to do it.

02:02:12.000 Anyway, I'm Libby Emmons.

02:02:13.000 You can find me at Libby Emmons on Twitter and you can check out all the great work we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com and you can subscribe at postmillennial.com slash subscribe.

02:02:26.000 And I am Surge.com.

02:02:28.000 It's good to have you back, Jack.

02:02:29.000 And, uh, it's promo code POSO, I think.

02:02:32.000 Boom! 0.99

02:02:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:02:33.000 Powerful promo code POSO.

02:02:34.000 There are no other promo codes.

02:02:36.000 Jack probably sells like 10,000 pillows every time he comes on this show.

02:02:40.000 You know, it's actually funny because when we look at the numbers, so Lindell was on the other day and he was like, he was like, it was like, oh yeah, Promo Code Tanya, that's your wife, right?

02:02:47.000 I was like, I was like, yeah, he's like, he's like, because, you know, I see those numbers come in and she's actually like, Mike, you don't need to, you don't need to continue.

02:02:55.000 And then Kyle Rittenhouse, because he's got his book, which by the way, so we've got the promo codes.

02:02:59.000 We do not get a cut from Kyle Rittenhouse for not doing that.

02:03:01.000 Phil would be right.

02:03:03.000 But he added on promo code Tanya as well, and he was like, yeah, she's actually got more than you.

02:03:08.000 Wow.

02:03:09.000 Well, Tanya is a delightful person.

02:03:12.000 We're going to go to the Members Only Uncensored show.

02:03:15.000 So thanks for hanging out, everybody.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 30, 2023

Timcast IRL - Elon Musk Tells Advertisers GO EFF YOURSELVES, Calls Boycott BLACKMAIL w-Jack Posobiec

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