Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 17, 2021


Timcast IRL - ENTIRE Portland Riot Police Squad RESIGNS, ITS HAPPENING w- Michael Malice


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

216.55899

Word Count

29,831

Sentence Count

2,363

Misogynist Sentences

65

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the resignation of the entire Portland Police Riot Squad, the Mises Caucus, and Press Secretary Michael Malice. We also talk about the McCloskey's decision to give up their guns, and we're joined by Luke Woodrowkowski.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The entire Portland Police Riot Squad has resigned.
00:00:29.000 Apparently, one of these cops struck an activist photographer.
00:00:34.000 I guess the establishment politicians were like, you attacked the press.
00:00:38.000 And they're like, dude, that guy's a rioter, pretending to be the press.
00:00:41.000 And I guess the immediate response, and the best response, was probably Michael Madlis' when he waved his arms in the air, like Ron Paul yelling that it was happening.
00:00:50.000 Yeah, it's great.
00:00:52.000 Me and Luke were very happy to hear this.
00:00:54.000 Christmas.
00:00:55.000 But it isn't actually, I think you're right.
00:00:57.000 It's a joke when we're like, it's happening.
00:00:59.000 But think about it.
00:01:00.000 It was only a matter of time before the police were like, dude, these people are rioters.
00:01:03.000 And the politicians were like, shut up, do as you're told.
00:01:05.000 And they said, we quit.
00:01:06.000 Right.
00:01:07.000 That's big.
00:01:08.000 Well it's also, as someone who is a big proponent of casting aspersions on the police, both as a group and as individuals, part of the reason behind that strategy is that as the cost of anything increases, the cost of a car, the cost of a book, the cost of soda, at a certain point some people are like, I can't afford this book, I can't afford this soda.
00:01:25.000 And for police that's going to be like, why am I putting up with being disrespected if not contempt okay maybe i'm putting up with it because i'm making my neighborhood a better place i'm helping my family like i get it this is politics and i'm the whipping boy at the moment fine but at a certain point it's like wait wait i'm gonna get treated like crap
00:01:45.000 And I can't do the base level job like writing is like something that's unambiguous.
00:01:49.000 This isn't like selling Lucy's or jaywalking.
00:01:51.000 It's like this is 101 cop stuff that I sign up for.
00:01:55.000 So I don't I'm shocked and delighted that Know that they're giving up their pensions because listen anyone who has a job I'm gonna speak positively about the cops now and honestly anyone has a job in a family It is really damn hard to be like I quit Yeah, like you have to give people credit for walking the walk and talking to talk.
00:02:15.000 It's it's not all good news.
00:02:16.000 Mr Mouse We've got some other stories the McCloskey's have agreed to give up their guns haven't been deported.
00:02:20.000 So yeah, of course Oh, right, right.
00:02:22.000 Sure Well, the McCloskeys are giving up their guns.
00:02:25.000 It's kind of not that big a deal because I guess they're not felons, they can go buy more, but man, is it screwed up that their guns were taken in the first place.
00:02:33.000 And it's a bad sign, but there are some positives ahead.
00:02:36.000 I think one of the things that Michael Maus will be talking about is the Mises Caucus and Dave Smith and Press Secretary Michael Malice.
00:02:44.000 So we're going to have a very, very fun conversation around that.
00:02:48.000 I better get some energy.
00:02:50.000 Yes, make sure you drink up that caffeine, Michael.
00:02:54.000 Thanks, he's got pizza as well.
00:02:55.000 And we're gonna talk a lot about... Michael's also got a book we'll get into.
00:02:58.000 Yes, sir.
00:02:59.000 We're also hanging out with, of course, Luke Woodkowski, so... That's a lot of aspartame you got there.
00:03:03.000 And howdy!
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00:03:18.000 And thanks so much for having me.
00:03:19.000 I also have a YouTube channel, We Are Change.
00:03:21.000 So yeah.
00:03:22.000 That's right, dude.
00:03:23.000 And I'm Ian Crosland.
00:03:24.000 What's up, everybody?
00:03:25.000 Glad to see you, Michael.
00:03:25.000 I'm so glad you're back.
00:03:26.000 I'm so excited to hear about your book, man.
00:03:28.000 It's great.
00:03:29.000 I don't know if we'll ever get into your experience in North Korea at all tonight.
00:03:32.000 Konnichiwa.
00:03:33.000 Thank you very much.
00:03:34.000 That's the wrong language.
00:03:35.000 I speak none of it.
00:03:36.000 Have you been there?
00:03:37.000 To Korea?
00:03:38.000 Yeah.
00:03:38.000 Yes.
00:03:39.000 To North Korea?
00:03:39.000 No.
00:03:40.000 Then you don't know.
00:03:41.000 I wrote the book on it!
00:03:43.000 My great-grandfather is from there.
00:03:44.000 I heard he wrote a tiger.
00:03:46.000 That's right.
00:03:46.000 That's right.
00:03:47.000 This is an inside- I guess it's an inside joke.
00:03:49.000 People are gonna be like, what are they talking about?
00:03:51.000 Anyway!
00:03:53.000 That's all I had to say.
00:03:54.000 I love you, Tim.
00:03:55.000 Thanks for having me.
00:03:56.000 Right on.
00:03:56.000 And I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons.
00:03:59.000 We always have a blast with Michael Malice.
00:03:59.000 This is always fun.
00:04:01.000 I'm really excited that this news is breaking when he's here.
00:04:04.000 Oh, and shouting out to Adrian and Jesse, who are, I'm sure, in the chat room.
00:04:07.000 Right on.
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00:05:47.000 People always complain about all these different corporations who are like, Subject to woke ism and are scared of getting canceled.
00:05:53.000 Well, this is the positive alternative Which is when you support the outlets that support the creators you're like you're not doing charity You're getting something for it and something that's a quality product and then you can feel good about yourself So I've got sponsor you got sponsors and I feel just like you they've been with you for a long time I feel happy to promote them because they're putting their money where their mouth is and they're taking a risk to some extent by supporting someone who like if I was tied or someone of these horrible conglomerates I would find radioactive You pointed all the sodas.
00:06:22.000 Well, in that regard, I've got some other news, too.
00:06:24.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member, because you'll get something for your membership.
00:06:28.000 You get exclusive members-only segments, and there will be one which goes up around 11 p.m.
00:06:34.000 after every show, every night.
00:06:36.000 But you're not just getting access to this wonderful members-only stream.
00:06:40.000 We recently brought on Cassandra Fairbanks to lead our newsroom.
00:06:44.000 Michael Maus is super excited.
00:06:45.000 Cassandra's fantastic.
00:06:47.000 Yes.
00:06:48.000 She's getting a monkey.
00:06:49.000 She's getting a monkey.
00:06:50.000 No, no, no, don't do it.
00:06:51.000 Don't do it.
00:06:52.000 Cassandra, don't do it.
00:06:53.000 She's already tweeted out.
00:06:54.000 It's too late.
00:06:55.000 No, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't baby. No
00:07:00.000 I'm visiting tomorrow Look, okay. Let's let's get through this right? Let's get
00:07:07.000 real. Let's get serious. This is a pipe by monkeys in Thailand before giraffe
00:07:11.000 okay, this is Hippo Oh Wow
00:07:16.000 My mammoths are extinct.
00:07:19.000 I know a lot about zoology and killing animals.
00:07:22.000 Pat Benatar, the 80s singer who's amazing.
00:07:25.000 She had an autobiography and I read it.
00:07:28.000 It was very good.
00:07:29.000 There's one sentence.
00:07:31.000 She grew up in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, which you would know very well.
00:07:34.000 And she goes, when I was in junior high school, we had a monkey.
00:07:37.000 And I'm talking like Tim now.
00:07:38.000 I'm doing my Tim cadence.
00:07:40.000 There you go.
00:07:40.000 And I'm sitting there reading it as someone who's a co-author of books, and I said, for the ghostwriter, whose name is on the cover, I go, if you're interviewing someone to write their book, and they say, oh, we had a monkey, that's a chapter.
00:07:51.000 Because every day when Pat Benatar comes home, there's something with this effing monkey.
00:07:57.000 Like the monkey's getting into places.
00:07:58.000 It's, it's, it's pleasuring itself.
00:08:00.000 It's raping.
00:08:02.000 The monkeys are not good pets.
00:08:05.000 It's too late, Michael.
00:08:05.000 She's gotten.
00:08:06.000 And on the friends reunion, when David Schwimmer was asked, what was the one thing you liked least about the show?
00:08:10.000 He said this monkey.
00:08:12.000 Wow.
00:08:12.000 Cause I had to interact with it.
00:08:13.000 Like we do a whole scene and then the monkey just not doing its thing.
00:08:16.000 We have to do it from scratch.
00:08:17.000 That's why they got rid of Marcel on that show.
00:08:18.000 I'm more excited about the monkey now.
00:08:20.000 I was actually more excited that Cassandra was going to be writing stories for the website and leading a team and bring people on.
00:08:26.000 This is a big mistake.
00:08:28.000 Dude, she's getting a monkey.
00:08:29.000 It's not!
00:08:31.000 It's awesome on paper.
00:08:32.000 They're horrible pets.
00:08:33.000 Well, you'll have to talk to her about it.
00:08:36.000 We'll have to put it down.
00:08:37.000 It's too late, though.
00:08:37.000 She's gotten the monkey.
00:08:38.000 It's not too late to put it down.
00:08:39.000 Has she named the monkey?
00:08:41.000 I don't know.
00:08:42.000 Bitey.
00:08:42.000 Actually, I think so.
00:08:43.000 All monkeys are called Bitey.
00:08:44.000 But anyway, the point I was going to make was that when you're a member of TimCast.com, the money that goes in from your membership is going towards hiring more journalists.
00:08:52.000 So I just had a call and a conversation with some journalists.
00:08:56.000 We're going to be poaching some journalists from some other companies you know and love because that's the way the market works, I guess.
00:09:01.000 And we're going to be making sure that we can support these people.
00:09:04.000 So like your membership is going to go to make sure that real journalists are getting paid so they can live and they can actually do the good work.
00:09:11.000 And if you saw the bonus segment, yes, I did ask Ivory if she wanted a job.
00:09:15.000 But, you know, we'll see how things play out.
00:09:17.000 I don't want to do like a big show where it's like, oh, this journalist is now looking for work.
00:09:20.000 Let me make it a thing.
00:09:21.000 Let me talk something else to build what you just said on.
00:09:24.000 I know for a lot of people, you remember, I'm sure, there was that CNN piece where Brian Stelter had some kind of media experts on.
00:09:30.000 And they were not mentioning you by name, but they were specifically complaining, like, there's these YouTube shows that are new shows and their audience is like 10 times the size of ours.
00:09:38.000 What are we going to do about this?
00:09:40.000 The point why they're right to be upset, even if your show was a tenth the size of Brian's, or 1%, if you're having someone with a different point of view, and someone that's coherent and comports to reality, that is going to punch way above its numbers in terms of destroying the corporate media narrative, right?
00:09:56.000 Because if you have, you know, New York Times, blah, blah, blah, it's going to have its stuff, and then one person comes along and goes, this story's actually bullcrap, Just like my book on Amazon.
00:10:04.000 It's the same as Barack Obama's book.
00:10:06.000 You just get your own page.
00:10:07.000 That journalist, it's article is going to look on Tim Katz just like an article in the New York Times.
00:10:11.000 And people will be able to make their own informed choices now.
00:10:14.000 Yep.
00:10:15.000 We're also going to be hiring fact checkers to work independently out of a different office.
00:10:15.000 So good for you.
00:10:19.000 So, if someone here writes an article, someone else at a different office who's not in communication will then read the article and then say, let me check this.
00:10:26.000 How much does... I need a fact checker for my next book.
00:10:28.000 Okay, good to know.
00:10:29.000 But we're gonna be hiring staff fact checkers.
00:10:30.000 They're gonna make phone calls.
00:10:31.000 They're gonna basically redo the story to make sure, on our end, we're doing real journalism.
00:10:35.000 Okay.
00:10:35.000 Of course, there's been a lot of activist groups that are really outraged by Cassandra, but this is what your membership is getting.
00:10:41.000 It's getting people like Cassandra.
00:10:43.000 For all her feistiness on Twitter, she's doing great journalism.
00:10:46.000 She is amazing.
00:10:47.000 I got some exciting plans.
00:10:48.000 I'm gonna hire the monkey to write for WeAreChange.org and give it some cigarettes.
00:10:48.000 She really is.
00:10:54.000 I forgot what it's called.
00:10:57.000 It's small.
00:10:58.000 Is it a capuchin?
00:10:59.000 No, it's not a capuchin.
00:11:00.000 A marmoset?
00:11:01.000 Marmoset.
00:11:02.000 Okay, those are better.
00:11:03.000 They're like squirrels.
00:11:04.000 They're very small, but they're very erratic.
00:11:06.000 So, if people aren't familiar with Cassandra, she writes for Gateway, and I'm not a fan of Gateway at all.
00:11:14.000 Because a lot of their articles, it's sensationalist, really over the top.
00:11:17.000 Yeah, you don't want to have a video with a big crazy headline, right?
00:11:20.000 But Cassandra, her articles are really straightforward, researched, she calls for comments.
00:11:24.000 She's the best.
00:11:25.000 It's fantastic, so we're going to be bringing that in, and we're going to be bringing more people in.
00:11:28.000 And I think it's great that you're in a position to, not that I'm just going to spend two hours blowing smoke up your ass, but I get it.
00:11:33.000 I think it's great that when you're hiring someone they're not some milquetoast I'm not gonna name names people on Twitter, but she's a brawler Oh, yeah, so if they start coming for her.
00:11:43.000 It's not like she's gonna be like let me talk to my editor She's like okay.
00:11:46.000 We could do this and PS.
00:11:47.000 I have a monkey now Right.
00:11:49.000 My attitude is like, you know, what I say, I'm not going to name the person who, but you can see it on Twitter, started tweeting like some, you know, bold moves by the Beanie Compound or whatever, and quoting Cassandra.
00:11:59.000 And I'm like, these activists are engaging in a harassment campaign against my female journalists.
00:12:05.000 And I was like, you don't get to- Who's a single mom?
00:12:07.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:08.000 You don't get to go on the New York Times and complain about journalism.
00:12:10.000 And women in journalism, specifically.
00:12:12.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:12:13.000 Anyway, this was a really long promo.
00:12:14.000 But hey, TimCast.com, be a member and help support the expansion because Paranormal Show's coming next.
00:12:21.000 We've been talking about it for a while.
00:12:23.000 So we're getting this, like, this is a really great writer that we're talking to right now.
00:12:26.000 His stuff's fantastic.
00:12:27.000 And it's like deep academic view and research into crazy stories and paranormal research.
00:12:32.000 None of this ghost hunting, like, oh, I got an EVP.
00:12:35.000 Like, I want legit scientific We compared, you know, control groups.
00:12:39.000 I want legit, here's the history of the old haunted house and what we found out about it.
00:12:43.000 Real cool stuff.
00:12:44.000 And we're going to do a podcast and Cassandra's going to be involved in that as well.
00:12:46.000 Do you want to know the story of number 13, Berkeley Square?
00:12:48.000 Yeah, what is that?
00:12:49.000 Let's get started, I guess.
00:12:50.000 Sure.
00:12:50.000 It's a ghost story, but it's, it's, this is my favorite ghost story because I, it reflects on me personally.
00:12:56.000 When I was a kid, there was a book of ghost stories I read and they talked about number 13, Berkeley Square.
00:13:01.000 And the point being, it's a very famous neighborhood, very rich neighborhood now.
00:13:05.000 There were a couple of sailors there in like the 1800s, any port in a storm, they... It was supposed to be haunted, and one guy's like, all right, if you get scared, ring this bell, and, you know, whatever.
00:13:16.000 They separate, the guy hears the bell ringing, he goes upstairs to see his friend, and the friend is dead with a look of horror on it, with a look of terror in his face.
00:13:24.000 People who visit the house said the walls were, this is, I love, as an author, like, interesting phrasing, they said the walls were filled with electric horror.
00:13:33.000 When I was an adult, my favorite author is E. Nesbitt.
00:13:36.000 She's a British children's novelist.
00:13:39.000 I ordered a manuscript that was ever published, and it turned out that it was a bookstore that is number 13 Berkeley Square.
00:13:46.000 I'm like, oh my god, I thought this when I was a kid.
00:13:48.000 He goes, I could give you the tour.
00:13:49.000 That room is like a broom closet.
00:13:51.000 So it's kind of spooky because it's small, but it's not haunted.
00:13:55.000 But that's the story number 13, Berkeley Square.
00:13:57.000 Some guy died?
00:13:57.000 Oh, that was it?
00:13:58.000 Well, no, there was a couple of people who died of horror, like, and there was like no cause for it.
00:14:02.000 There's something about the electric, I think it's called phantom DNA, where they bombard DNA in a vacuum with electrons, and then they remove the DNA and the electrons stay there as if the DNA is still there for like two weeks or longer.
00:14:15.000 I mean, and so I think this goes crazy.
00:14:17.000 I love stories like this.
00:14:18.000 Right, so that's the plan man. That's awesome. Yeah, so we're gonna
00:14:21.000 We're gonna be having someone who's dedicated to that kind of production, and then we want to make a cool mystery
00:14:26.000 spooky paranormal stuff basically, I view it as kind of just like a
00:14:30.000 Research into the unknown you know what I mean, so I'm not I don't necessarily believe in ghosts
00:14:35.000 I just say well there's interesting stories, but I think all these ghost hunter shows just make crap up like there's
00:14:40.000 one exception So I met the guy who was like the EP on Jesse Ventura's show.
00:14:44.000 And, or maybe he wasn't, I don't want to out the guy, I don't remember who it was, but he worked on the show.
00:14:47.000 And I said, how many of these stories are real?
00:14:49.000 He's like, yeah, okay, it's all crap.
00:14:51.000 But he's like, he came in with an open mind being like, okay, is this real?
00:14:53.000 Is it not?
00:14:53.000 And everything was like, okay, this is nothing.
00:14:55.000 He said, Skinwalker Ranch.
00:14:57.000 He goes, I don't know what the hell was going on there, but that stuff is real.
00:15:00.000 So that is like the real Area 51 that people don't know about.
00:15:02.000 It's Skinwalker Ranch.
00:15:03.000 I think they made a show about it now, but this was like five or six years ago.
00:15:07.000 Actually, one of our first segments we ever did on this show was about Skinwalker Ranch.
00:15:09.000 What is it?
00:15:11.000 No, please tell me.
00:15:13.000 I don't know.
00:15:13.000 It's been a long time since we went over the story.
00:15:15.000 It's apparently like this place where they have private air stuff.
00:15:19.000 And it's like no one's allowed near it.
00:15:21.000 And it's just there's a lot of weird stuff having to do it because it's like there's this one guy who has a monopoly license that no one else in the country has.
00:15:28.000 This is all like playing telephone.
00:15:30.000 I'm completely garbling the story people can look it up themselves.
00:15:33.000 But there was it's one of those like Bohemian Grove, where there's like lots of questions.
00:15:37.000 And surely there's some kind of logical answer.
00:15:39.000 But on the face of it, it's like this is weird, weird stuff.
00:15:42.000 I just googled it and there's a breaking news story from two days ago.
00:15:46.000 Alleged UFO sighting at Skinwalker Ranch, Brandon Fugle's eyewitness account on Jessup's journal.
00:15:52.000 So apparently at Skinwalker Ranch there's like a bunch of weird sightings, creepy creatures, UFOs and stuff.
00:15:58.000 We have this story from, this is an NBC story, they say.
00:16:02.000 Uh, ABC- I'm sorry, this is ABC 4.
00:16:04.000 There are some things that can't be explained in this episode of Utah Success Stories.
00:16:08.000 You'll see a preview, blah blah blah.
00:16:10.000 Okay, legend has it that supernatural activities occur on a piece of land surrounded by the Ute Indian Reservation.
00:16:15.000 Is it Ute?
00:16:16.000 In the U- Untah Basin.
00:16:19.000 What is a Ute?
00:16:21.000 It's my cousin Vinny, sorry.
00:16:21.000 Is that what it is?
00:16:23.000 Oh, okay.
00:16:24.000 The two Utes!
00:16:25.000 It's Uintah, that's how that's pronounced.
00:16:27.000 Ah, I remember that joke.
00:16:29.000 Brandon Fugle bought the land five years ago and brought in a team of scientists to see if the legends were true.
00:16:34.000 What's the thing that he knows now that he didn't know before surprises him the most?
00:16:38.000 I bought the ranch as a skeptic, as a healthy skeptic.
00:16:40.000 I had never seen a UFO, a ghost, or an orb, or anything of the sort in my life, and I disclosed that to the previous donor.
00:16:47.000 Fugle claims that he and his team have experienced unexplained phenomena.
00:16:51.000 I was surprised at how open he was when he told me.
00:16:53.000 Those first six months of owning it, I really saw nothing in myself that would lead me to believe that there was anything unusual.
00:16:59.000 Well, that all changed.
00:17:00.000 I had with multiple witnesses with me an occasion where we saw what can only be described as an unidentified flying object.
00:17:05.000 A craft, a 40, 50 foot long silver disc hovering right above the mesa, right in front of us.
00:17:11.000 This wasn't just blinking light in the sky or something that was a little bit ambiguous.
00:17:14.000 This was a solid object that appeared out of nowhere and nowhere could move in the blink of an eye and over a 20 second period perform maneuvers that I believe defy any propulsion physics that were acquainted with it.
00:17:27.000 So there's a lot of stories like this.
00:17:29.000 I don't know.
00:17:30.000 I actually think this website is meant to just like promote something related to a show or something.
00:17:33.000 Sounds like it.
00:17:34.000 But it's the other thing I want to point out.
00:17:36.000 My dad was, excuse me, my grandfather was an aircraft controller in the Soviet Union.
00:17:39.000 I've told the story of the shows.
00:17:41.000 So he was really high up.
00:17:42.000 And I asked him about UFOs.
00:17:44.000 He goes, we saw this kind of stuff all the time.
00:17:46.000 And the thing people don't appreciate is it's really easy to be like, oh, this is some guy who was drunk in the middle of the field.
00:17:51.000 It's like, no, no, these are professionals who on a day to day basis interact with all kinds of aircraft.
00:17:57.000 Who are doing military so they know what the American capabilities are.
00:18:00.000 And American capabilities to this day aren't what these people are saying.
00:18:03.000 My grandpa's like, we saw this all the time.
00:18:05.000 I'm not saying it's aliens, but I'm like, he's like, it's not nothing.
00:18:07.000 There's reports of these ever since World War II, so they've been going on for a long time.
00:18:13.000 There's been this media push surrounding China or Russia having advanced military technology, and this is why we need to bolster the military-industrial complex.
00:18:22.000 We've been hearing that talk, but if this has been going on since World War II, there's no way Russia or China could develop that kind of technology all the way back then.
00:18:31.000 So that theory that the mainstream media is trying to push out there as we're waiting for the disclosure to come out by the Pentagon any freaking day now is absolutely false on many merits.
00:18:40.000 First of all, please don't call the mainstream because you know they're depraved and not part of the mainstream, they're corporate.
00:18:44.000 And number two is... I want to say some other words, but they won't be family friendly.
00:18:49.000 My understanding is that after the Soviet Union fell apart and a lot of these files were declassified, there were a lot of documentation in the Soviet Union where they were like, they thought these are American vests that they were seeing because they're like, we don't have anything that's like this.
00:18:59.000 This must be the Americans with the Americans app.
00:19:01.000 So both sides assumed it was the other, because they knew, okay, it's not us, it's not our allies.
00:19:04.000 But after World War II, there was a time, a short period, where the United States and Russia talked to each other, and they were talking to each other specifically about these unidentified flying objects that are defying the laws of science.
00:19:16.000 So we even see the diplomatic communications between those two countries saying, hey, is this you?
00:19:20.000 No.
00:19:20.000 Is this you?
00:19:21.000 No.
00:19:21.000 What's going on here?
00:19:22.000 And then the Cold War hit its kind of precipice, and then things got severe, and then diplomatic communications stopped, and we don't know what's going on.
00:19:22.000 We don't know.
00:19:31.000 Not to be all tinfoil hat, although I still have Alex's at my house.
00:19:34.000 There is a very concerted effort in, like, corporate media to, like, don't look outside, look at the screens and look at what we're telling you.
00:19:42.000 And anything that doesn't fit our narrative, which is our narrative is we can explain everything for you.
00:19:46.000 Go to your couch, turn on CNN, turn on Fox, whatever.
00:19:49.000 We will tell you what the news is and how to think about it.
00:19:52.000 Since they don't have a narrative here, it's going to be really tricky for them.
00:19:55.000 So they're like, oh, it's all crazy people.
00:19:57.000 Or it's storks.
00:19:57.000 Storks can't hover.
00:20:01.000 The guy who bought this ranch, if there's eyewitnesses, if there's four of them, they know the difference between a stork and a 50-foot object.
00:20:09.000 It's getting weird.
00:20:10.000 So a lot of people think this big UFO talk, they're gonna release this report, is just a distraction.
00:20:15.000 It's an effort to bolster the military, to preempt it.
00:20:19.000 Well, it's a distraction from, like, the very serious problems that are happening right now.
00:20:22.000 Like, was it China just flew 28 warplanes into the Taiwanese air defense zone, which is freaking everybody out.
00:20:28.000 The U.S.
00:20:29.000 has got a strike group in the area.
00:20:30.000 Then Russia does war games off Hawaii.
00:20:33.000 These things would scare people.
00:20:34.000 So then what do they do?
00:20:35.000 They dangle a UFO, and they're like, Look over here!
00:20:38.000 Don't look at the war!
00:20:39.000 That's potentially on the verge of breaking out.
00:20:40.000 Look at the UFO in the sky and, oh, the report's coming out.
00:20:43.000 Obama comes out and says it.
00:20:45.000 But it'll be interesting, because it is weird.
00:20:47.000 Yeah, the first thing Bill Clinton did when he came to the White House, he says to Webb Hubble, he's like, find out what happened with JFK and what's going on with UFOs.
00:20:54.000 And then when he found out that his face just turned pale, or was he like laughing?
00:20:57.000 He got introduced to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:20:59.000 No, he said, turn it in.
00:21:00.000 He's like, hey, here's your... Here's why they don't talk about the UFOs.
00:21:03.000 Yeah, you go up to a UFO, but you come down a rapist.
00:21:05.000 That's right.
00:21:06.000 No one wants that.
00:21:07.000 Well, apparently a few people do.
00:21:09.000 I wonder if it's corporations.
00:21:11.000 There was a big article by Newsweek today that actually talked about Bill Clinton's relationship with Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and how it was obfuscated with Prince Andrew and how the whole Prince Andrew saga, according to a journalist that works on the royal family, specifically very closely together, that the whole thing that happened with Prince Andrew was just a distraction so no one would pay attention to the larger Bigger and longer relationship that Bill Clinton had to Epstein.
00:21:39.000 I am really impressed how we went from your ghost story to Skinwalker Ranch to UFOs to Epstein.
00:21:44.000 It's like an amazing segue here.
00:21:46.000 And this is Newsweek reporting this today, which is absolutely surprising that finally this is breaking in the mainstream and this is widely talked about.
00:21:55.000 And I find it absolutely important, because when you really look at the true realms of what has been going on behind the scenes of government, and now these people are saying, trust us, we're going to tell you what happens with these aliens, you know, there should be a lot of skepticism, to say the least.
00:22:09.000 I have an absolutely amazing conspiracy theory that I was reading the other day.
00:22:13.000 It was on Reddit.
00:22:15.000 It started with a 4chan post.
00:22:18.000 I know, I know, I know.
00:22:20.000 It's amazing.
00:22:21.000 I love it.
00:22:22.000 It's like this absolutely ridiculous 4chan post where someone's claiming a bunch of things about viruses merging with human DNA thousands of years ago and what's really happening with the UFOs and what's going on.
00:22:34.000 But I can't talk about it because YouTube, it includes some of the taboo subjects.
00:22:39.000 So as we'll do, we'll save it for the bonus segment.
00:22:42.000 It's, it's, dude, it's like, it's the most ridiculous, insane garbage I've ever read.
00:22:46.000 However, it would make an awesome movie.
00:22:49.000 Like the secret wars with Trump and like what's really happening with the aliens and like, it's, uh, I guess I would call it chicken coop theory.
00:22:57.000 What's that mean?
00:22:58.000 That the Earth is a chicken coop for aliens.
00:23:00.000 That's a great theory.
00:23:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:23:02.000 I've heard that.
00:23:03.000 The UFOs are just basically like, you know, when I go out and I'm wearing my boots and I'm like throwing feed into the chicken area and the chickens are like, what's happening?
00:23:10.000 There's a giant thing here.
00:23:11.000 What is it?
00:23:12.000 That's how we are with these aliens.
00:23:14.000 And so, but I can't talk about it because it includes some medical stuff.
00:23:19.000 And when they come straight at us, we can't see them.
00:23:21.000 So we have to turn our head to see them sideways.
00:23:24.000 But that's why people only see like flashes of light and things they can't necessarily.
00:23:27.000 Or it's multi-dimensional.
00:23:28.000 Because they keep coming straight at us.
00:23:30.000 It's a different dimension, like Alex was saying.
00:23:32.000 But we'll do a big bonus segment on this.
00:23:33.000 We'll have a lot of fun with it.
00:23:35.000 Let's jump into the actual like main news.
00:23:37.000 And then we got a lot to talk about.
00:23:39.000 So this story is the, it's happening.
00:23:42.000 From the Daily Mail, Portland Police's entire riot squad resigns after cop was indicted for striking activist photographer, who they insist was a rioter, with baton during violent protest, saw government building set alight.
00:23:57.000 The Portland Police Union said the officers would be leaving the squad in response to the indictment on Tuesday of member Corey Budworth.
00:24:05.000 Budworth was charged with assault related to an August 18-20 incident in which he allegedly struck a photographer, Terry Jacobs, with a baton.
00:24:12.000 The police union said the officers were set upon by 200 protesters and that Budworth had accidentally hit Jacobs in the head.
00:24:19.000 They have also claimed Jacobs was part of the riot.
00:24:21.000 She was not charged with any crime and was awarded a $50,000 settlement by the city of Portland over the incident.
00:24:26.000 Despite the resignation, the officers would remain employed by the Portland Police Department.
00:24:31.000 It's not clear how this will affect the department's ability to respond to riots.
00:24:35.000 You know, I really love how they say it's the riot squad responding to protests.
00:24:39.000 Can we just say the riot squad responds to riots?
00:24:42.000 I guess they do respond to protests too.
00:24:44.000 So they're not quitting the entire department.
00:24:47.000 They just are refusing to go out during riots anymore.
00:24:50.000 And here's another thing in their defense, is that you see in a lot of these places they arrest people and then it's just a revolving door.
00:24:55.000 The prosecutors aren't gonna do anything.
00:24:57.000 Explicitly so.
00:24:58.000 So then it's like, wait, wait, wait.
00:25:00.000 I gotta get in the middle of this drama.
00:25:02.000 People are gonna be throwing whatever at me.
00:25:05.000 Everyone's gonna hate me.
00:25:06.000 I'm gonna arrest this person.
00:25:07.000 The person's gonna be like, just walk right out the door.
00:25:10.000 At the very least, why am I putting in all this effort?
00:25:12.000 It's worse than that now.
00:25:13.000 And this is what I love about it.
00:25:15.000 I've been going on, people were tweeting at you because I said abolish the police.
00:25:19.000 They were like, Michael, you've done such great work with Tim.
00:25:22.000 That's true.
00:25:23.000 But my reason for abolish the police is not the same as yours, I think.
00:25:27.000 Although I do think, definitely, the conversations we've had have been influential to my opinions as well.
00:25:32.000 I think the reason they should be leaving is because they can't do their jobs functionally anymore.
00:25:37.000 I agree.
00:25:39.000 So we agree, but I think you're more of the anarchist, the police are bad across the board.
00:25:43.000 I definitely agree with you on the gun thing, for sure.
00:25:45.000 That was a good argument.
00:25:47.000 But what we're seeing now is, not only will the police, if they arrest someone, nothing happens to that person, They're actually arresting the cops now!
00:25:55.000 That's amazing!
00:25:56.000 Imagine the kind of feckless, pathetic, spineless jellyfish cop you'd have to be to turn around and arrest your own cop who is doing literally what the city told him to do.
00:26:06.000 Well, that guy's a hero because that means that those cops who are enforcing constitutional laws should be arrested, right?
00:26:11.000 So those are the good guys.
00:26:12.000 So then what happens is one by one, they'll start arresting each other?
00:26:15.000 I mean, I don't know about one by one, but in all seriousness, like, yeah, I obviously I'm no friend of the police and I always say and I will defend that every cop is a criminal.
00:26:24.000 But at a certain point, it's just like you feel, I'm sure the vast majority of people who are police officers feel, all right, it's a tough job.
00:26:32.000 Someone's got to do it.
00:26:34.000 And I'm really helping people.
00:26:35.000 I'm stopping murders.
00:26:36.000 I'm stopping rapists.
00:26:37.000 Like little kids are not getting snatched.
00:26:38.000 Yeah, it sucks, but someone's got to do it.
00:26:40.000 I'm doing a good job of it.
00:26:41.000 At a certain point, if in any gig, like if you had Ian here and you're like, Ian, you can only talk for 30 seconds every hour.
00:26:48.000 It's at a certain point.
00:26:49.000 It's like, why am I even here?
00:26:50.000 Like what am I doing here?
00:26:51.000 Right?
00:26:51.000 So it's the same thing.
00:26:53.000 It's like, I have this job and I have my fantasy or my, you know, ideal version of what it's going to be.
00:26:58.000 And my boss.
00:27:00.000 is not only not allowing me to do it, but it's taking steps to prevent me to do it.
00:27:04.000 It's just like, how much respect do you have for me?
00:27:06.000 I'm getting crapped on by the people on the street.
00:27:08.000 I'm getting crapped on by my boss and my colleagues.
00:27:10.000 How am I going to have dignity for my home?
00:27:12.000 Let's take it one step further.
00:27:13.000 Please!
00:27:14.000 Let's take it as many as possible.
00:27:16.000 Let's say, you know, like Luke's joined us on the show.
00:27:16.000 Here's what I mean.
00:27:18.000 You know, he comes in periodically.
00:27:20.000 Imagine if I said, here's the only things you're allowed to talk about.
00:27:23.000 Make it really, really difficult for him, and then Then he actually does what I tell him to do, and I get mad because it just, for some reason, caused me problems, so I lock him in the basement.
00:27:32.000 And you publicly denounce him.
00:27:36.000 No, no, I'm serious because these cops' names are public.
00:27:41.000 So that means they're known by all their neighborhood that I got arrested for doing my job.
00:27:46.000 That's not gonna feel nice.
00:27:47.000 Well, how dare you equate me to a cop, first of all.
00:27:50.000 Second of all, The police union chief had a very interesting comment.
00:27:54.000 He said our RRT members do not volunteer to have Molotov cocktails, fireworks, explosives, rocks, bottles, urine, feces, and other dangerous objects thrown at them.
00:28:05.000 He noted that the team members volunteer for the work without any specific pay.
00:28:10.000 So these members are stepping down out of this response unit.
00:28:12.000 The mayor, Wheeler, asked them, please, don't do this.
00:28:16.000 Don't do this.
00:28:17.000 And then the police responded, well, too bad.
00:28:19.000 We're doing this anyway.
00:28:21.000 After, of course, all the major political decisions that have been happening in Portland.
00:28:24.000 Now, here's the best part.
00:28:26.000 Imagine I ask Luke to come on the show.
00:28:29.000 I then say, here's the only things you're allowed to say.
00:28:31.000 Then, even when he just does what I asked, I publicly denounce him.
00:28:36.000 Luke, instead of quitting the show, says, well, I won't talk about foreign policy anymore.
00:28:41.000 And he keeps coming to the show.
00:28:42.000 These cops, they're resigning from the riot squad.
00:28:44.000 Right.
00:28:45.000 And they're staying with the city, staying under the boot of the corrupt system that's literally trying to put a cop in jail because they sent him out at a riot.
00:28:55.000 I was trying to talk nice about the cops.
00:28:57.000 You're making it harder.
00:28:58.000 Kimberly Potter?
00:28:58.000 Oh no, I won't have it man. I've been saying for a while.
00:29:01.000 You know that woman in Minnesota, she shot the guy.
00:29:04.000 He was a wanted felon for a gun charge or armed robbery.
00:29:08.000 What was her name? Kimberly Potter?
00:29:10.000 Kim Potter.
00:29:11.000 Yeah, this was during the Chauvin trial.
00:29:14.000 She was trying to- she was going for a taser, and then she pulled her gun on accident.
00:29:17.000 She shoots the guy, and I- Oh yeah, that's- yeah, yeah, okay.
00:29:19.000 I said, I hope- good, prison.
00:29:21.000 Right to prison.
00:29:22.000 Of course.
00:29:22.000 Because- Negligence, yeah.
00:29:23.000 Well, there's two things.
00:29:24.000 One is, you are responsible for anything that comes out of your gun, period.
00:29:27.000 How sad.
00:29:28.000 However, if she actually shot him, she would have been justified.
00:29:30.000 Not that I'm happy that it happened, it's a sad, tragic story, but he was a wanted fugitive who had a gun and jumped in his car, The point is, as I've described it, the people of Minnesota, the officers, and of Portland, are standing inside a burning building.
00:29:46.000 We've warned them repeatedly to get out.
00:29:49.000 And in response to a giant beam smacking one of the cops in the head, they go, well, we'll stand in the kitchen instead of the living room.
00:29:56.000 It's like, maybe just get out, dude.
00:29:58.000 I've got a lot of messages from cops who have said that they're the cops that I refer to as the good cops who got out when they saw how bad it was getting.
00:30:06.000 And these are the cops who want to save a little kid from getting kidnapped.
00:30:08.000 These are the cops who want to stop the drug dealers from destroying our neighborhoods.
00:30:11.000 These are the cops who want to make sure that crime isn't skyrocketing in New York City.
00:30:14.000 But they can't do it anymore.
00:30:16.000 They're getting targeted.
00:30:17.000 They're getting arrested.
00:30:18.000 So they're quitting.
00:30:19.000 And even in the military, there's similar things happening.
00:30:21.000 I saw your face, Michael, and I agree with you because if we look at policing the last few months, what have they been doing?
00:30:27.000 They've been arresting religious pastors.
00:30:29.000 They have been arresting private businesses.
00:30:31.000 They have been enforcing unconstitutional, illegal decrees of politicians and destroying people's livelihoods while protecting the billionaire class.
00:30:39.000 The NYPD, the Florida Police Department, prosecutors, judges, the FBI, intelligence agencies, All looked the other way for 30 years when it came to children being hurt in the most unspeakable ways with a Mr. Epstein.
00:30:51.000 So there's a lot of, you know, discontent to bring up there, especially what's happening in Canada right now, where there was a horrible video of a pastor being arrested in front of his children.
00:31:00.000 Maxine Burnet was just arrested for hosting a political rally.
00:31:04.000 Right now, the police in Canada are absolutely out of control, and I do believe we need to strike a balance, but we need to have an honest conversation that's not just one-sided on the issue.
00:31:13.000 There have been a lot of problems with cops for a very, very long time.
00:31:16.000 But let's just keep in mind, the stuff we're seeing over the past year and into now, a lot of the cops you'd probably like have left.
00:31:22.000 I was looking at my phone because a cop messaged me and he said, because of your work, I'm quitting the force and I'm mailing you my badge and I'm going to private security.
00:31:30.000 And I wanted to give him a shout out, which maybe I'll look for it later.
00:31:34.000 It's very kind of moving that I, even for one person, that he's like, okay, at the very least, even if you're going to stay in the force, acknowledge what it is that you're doing.
00:31:44.000 Like, I can even wrap my head around, okay, I'm violating the Constitution and I'm disarming people, but it's for greater good.
00:31:51.000 Fine.
00:31:51.000 Like, I could wrap my head around that.
00:31:53.000 I told this story before.
00:31:54.000 When I went and was getting my first gun, the gun shop in Jersey said they had a big problem where a woman... So if you live in the South Jersey area, you're 10 minutes from Philadelphia.
00:32:04.000 You cross the bridge, you're in Philadelphia.
00:32:06.000 In Pennsylvania, you're allowed to bear arms.
00:32:09.000 Good law is not perfect.
00:32:11.000 Well, a woman was armed, legally, and she was going to Atlantic City.
00:32:16.000 Didn't look up the laws of New Jersey.
00:32:17.000 She made that mistake.
00:32:18.000 Cop actually arrested her on a felony charge.
00:32:20.000 It's like, why would the cop do that?
00:32:22.000 Why wouldn't the cop say, ma'am, you are not allowed to have this weapon here in New Jersey.
00:32:26.000 I'm gonna escort you back to the bridge.
00:32:27.000 You made a mistake, I understand.
00:32:29.000 Please leave.
00:32:29.000 Take your gun home to where it's legal for you to keep.
00:32:31.000 Come back to my state without that weapon.
00:32:34.000 Instead, he's just like, oh boy, I got one!
00:32:36.000 You're going to prison, lady!
00:32:37.000 Ha ha!
00:32:38.000 I'm thinking about what you said about abolish the police.
00:32:40.000 I'm wondering, and correct me if I'm wrong, if what you're really saying, so what you're saying is... Did you see I did that today?
00:32:48.000 I loved every minute of it.
00:32:48.000 I Kathy Newman Jordan Peterson himself.
00:32:51.000 Shout out to Kathy.
00:32:52.000 But that you're suggesting that police boycott the department or strike on the department if it's corrupt.
00:32:58.000 Yes.
00:32:59.000 Not abolish the entire system of policing.
00:33:02.000 So it's a little bit more nuanced, but that is the gist of the point.
00:33:06.000 The other thing I'm saying is...
00:33:08.000 If the police force is becoming more and more corrupt, and some would argue, especially Black Lives Matter and Antifa, and even ANCAP's anarchists on the right of any capacity, that they've been corrupt for a very, very long time, notably Michael Kagan.
00:33:19.000 I don't like that word corrupt here, because I think they're not being dishonest.
00:33:22.000 I think they're just being forced through politics to do things in a certain way.
00:33:26.000 So I'll put it this way.
00:33:27.000 If the police are no longer serving the interests of the public, then why would I want to fund something that causes harm to good people?
00:33:37.000 If you're a cop and you want a better society, to be a hero, to help, then you need to reconcile one very important circumstance.
00:33:45.000 Black Lives Matter and Antifa have been smashing up buildings and destroying, setting fires, and these people are not going to jail, but if I choose to keep and bear arms in some ridiculous, twisted rule, if it comes into play, the cops will arrest me for that.
00:34:02.000 So if you look at Chicago, for example.
00:34:03.000 And mandatory minimums often.
00:34:05.000 Right.
00:34:05.000 So it's not like you're gonna get off that it's like, oh, it was your first time, it was an innocent mistake.
00:34:08.000 It's like, that judge has to sentence you often.
00:34:11.000 Yep.
00:34:11.000 So this is the law.
00:34:12.000 So the cops need to understand.
00:34:15.000 Even if... I've had cops messaging me saying, look, we just arrest lawbreakers.
00:34:19.000 It's the DAs you're mad at.
00:34:21.000 And I said, no.
00:34:22.000 If you personally know this, and you do because you're emailing me and you watch the show, that the district attorneys If you know that if you arrest one Antifa and one conservative and send them both the DA, and the DA laughs and sends the Antifa on his way and then welcomes the conservative into prison for bearing arms, you are the one delivering people to prison.
00:34:44.000 And the officers can make the choice to say, Like I said with the New Jersey lady.
00:34:49.000 Look, lady, ma'am, you got a good cop right here.
00:34:51.000 I'm gonna escort you back to the bridge.
00:34:53.000 It's a 10-minute drive.
00:34:54.000 You're gonna go home.
00:34:55.000 You're gonna leave that gun.
00:34:56.000 Otherwise, some other state trooper is gonna lock you up, and I don't wanna see that happen.
00:34:59.000 No, he didn't!
00:35:00.000 He just said, ma'am, you're under arrest.
00:35:01.000 The story was, he pulls her over, and she did the right thing.
00:35:04.000 Officer, I am armed.
00:35:05.000 I just wanna let you know.
00:35:07.000 And he goes, right away, ma'am.
00:35:08.000 Please step out of the vehicle.
00:35:09.000 She gets up.
00:35:10.000 Put your hands behind your back.
00:35:11.000 Is something wrong?
00:35:12.000 Ma'am, quiet.
00:35:12.000 Hands behind your back.
00:35:13.000 Arrest her.
00:35:14.000 You're under arrest.
00:35:14.000 It's illegal.
00:35:15.000 It's a felony to carry that weapon in New Jersey.
00:35:18.000 That's it.
00:35:18.000 And she freaks out.
00:35:19.000 She panics.
00:35:20.000 A middle-aged woman going to go to the casino and have a good time.
00:35:23.000 Broke no laws.
00:35:24.000 Was legally bearing, I should say constitutionally bearing her arm.
00:35:27.000 But in New Jersey they say it's statutorily illegal.
00:35:30.000 And the cop had no problem sending a middle-aged woman into the prison system.
00:35:34.000 Fortunately, however, the NRA apparently got involved and then made a big stink.
00:35:40.000 And the DA dropped the charges and told her not to do it again.
00:35:42.000 They don't do that for people in inner-city Chicago, for young black men who want to protect themselves because there's gang violence.
00:35:48.000 I got no sympathy for somebody who wants to join gang violence.
00:35:50.000 What about the old black ladies who are going to be left in New York City when everyone moves out, who are in the projects, who can't afford to move?
00:35:55.000 Absolutely.
00:35:55.000 Absolutely.
00:35:56.000 Lauren Chen, who you guys have had on, who I adore.
00:35:59.000 Uh, you know how sometimes someone just says one sentence that kind of just light bulbs you and just rattles you for a long time?
00:36:03.000 She's great.
00:36:04.000 She's the best.
00:36:05.000 She was on my show, it was one of hers I remember, and she was having an issue in Canada because her dad had cancer and for like a year he couldn't even get like a scan.
00:36:12.000 It was something absolutely crazy.
00:36:14.000 And she just goes, why am I funding my own oppression?
00:36:17.000 And I was like, holy, like, you like, Lauren, you like nailed it.
00:36:20.000 And it's the kind of thing where it's just like, Yeah, why am I paying these high taxes in these cities so that the cops can leave me unsafe in my own home where I can't have a gun to protect myself, which is my God-given constitutional right and none of your business, right?
00:36:37.000 That's it, I mean- While you guys are ginning up as much unrest and burden roll down as possible at the same time.
00:36:43.000 So my issue is, I'm in New Jersey, I had a cop actually tell me to go buy a gun because someone tried breaking in, and then I looked up the law and they're like, if the guy did break in, and you did shoot him, you go to prison!
00:36:55.000 Welcome.
00:36:56.000 And I'm like, what?
00:36:57.000 He broke into my house though, and look, we should've left.
00:36:59.000 Like, where am I supposed to go?
00:37:00.000 It's my house!
00:37:01.000 Like, am I supp- No, no, no, this is back in Jersey.
00:37:01.000 It's a big house.
00:37:03.000 Small house.
00:37:04.000 Okay.
00:37:04.000 Yeah, small.
00:37:05.000 I was like, it was all K-sized.
00:37:06.000 I'm kidding, I'm joking.
00:37:07.000 It's a five-bedroom.
00:37:08.000 But am I supposed to just go jump my fence in my backyard and go stand in the middle of the street in my underwear?
00:37:13.000 You're supposed to die and be a statistic, and then they could say, look, we're fighting- Gun violence is at an all-time high.
00:37:20.000 We need more cops.
00:37:21.000 Right.
00:37:22.000 That's what Lori Lightfoot is doing right now.
00:37:24.000 Her emails were also leaked recently and people are finding out the true picture of who she really was.
00:37:29.000 But places like Chicago and New York City have absolutely atrocious self-defense laws where even if you get attacked first, you defend yourself, you cause any mark or harm to the perpetrator, you go to jail.
00:37:40.000 No matter what the situation, no matter what the circumstance.
00:37:42.000 And these officers don't care.
00:37:44.000 Let me tell you about what I think one of the biggest problems is.
00:37:47.000 Sure, I will always lay the blame at the feet of the perpetrator.
00:37:50.000 If a woman is wearing, you know, she's scantily clad clothing and walks through an alley and someone attacks her, she was not asking for it.
00:37:57.000 The perpetrator, the criminal, is who should be punished, who should be blamed, etc.
00:38:02.000 But there is personal responsibility involved.
00:38:04.000 You need to be aware of your own surroundings.
00:38:06.000 You need to take some responsibility.
00:38:08.000 So I don't think it's a one-for-one, like, when the left says, oh, people should be allowed to be drunkenly wandering around.
00:38:13.000 Like, I'm not going to go to an ATM at 3 in the morning, all right?
00:38:16.000 So I'll blame the gun control left and many of these Democrats in these big cities who push for these things.
00:38:22.000 And now I'm going to lay some blame at the feet of conservatives who refuse to fight back.
00:38:26.000 We have this story.
00:38:27.000 Louis gun-waving couple plead guilty to misdemeanor charges.
00:38:27.000 St.
00:38:31.000 Part of their plea is that they will be giving up their weapons.
00:38:34.000 They say, Mark and Patricia McCloskey, who waved guns at protesters last year who marched past their home, pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanors and agreed to give up their weapons.
00:38:44.000 Mark McCloskey will pay a $750 fine after pleading guilty to fourth-degree assault to Class C misdemeanor.
00:38:50.000 Patricia, 62, must pay a $2,000 fine after pleading guilty to second-degree harassment, a Class A misdemeanor.
00:38:56.000 Mark McCloskey could have faced up to 15 days in jail.
00:38:59.000 Patricia could have spent up to a year behind bars.
00:39:01.000 Neither will face jail time.
00:39:03.000 Do not vote for these people.
00:39:04.000 Isn't the guy running for office or something?
00:39:06.000 He's running for U.S.
00:39:07.000 Senate, and he just tweeted, don't worry, I have more guns to protect my family where that came from.
00:39:13.000 Do not vote for this man.
00:39:14.000 He is a spineless coward.
00:39:16.000 Wait, why is he spineless?
00:39:18.000 When the cops came to take his guns away, he took a picture of them from behind and said, I don't want anyone to think bad of these cops who are confiscating our weapons.
00:39:25.000 Oh, I didn't know that.
00:39:26.000 Now, he's dropping to his knees, scared of the state coming for him, giving up his weapons.
00:39:26.000 That's right.
00:39:33.000 But I have more.
00:39:34.000 Dude, get out of here.
00:39:34.000 I don't care.
00:39:36.000 Should have fought the legal battle.
00:39:39.000 You can't advise someone to be a martyr.
00:39:41.000 I would not feel comfortable taking on the state when there's this whole public frothing at the mouth mob, and I'm being made into a political victim.
00:39:48.000 I'd do it.
00:39:49.000 Maybe you would, but I don't think he's a coward for being like, I got a family, they've got me dead to rights because they can write the law whatever they want, and it's going to cost me millions of dollars, and the government can tax me to pay for them.
00:40:00.000 I can't wait.
00:40:01.000 His comments are interesting and I think they provide us context here.
00:40:04.000 He said, quote, on his Twitter account.
00:40:06.000 I'm bringing this from his account.
00:40:08.000 Quote, let me be clear.
00:40:09.000 I am not surrendering any of my firearms.
00:40:11.000 I will continue to be one of the strongest advocates for the Second Amendment and around the country.
00:40:17.000 The two weapons that were seized from me were evidence in a criminal case.
00:40:21.000 Per the state of MO, they are to be incinerated.
00:40:25.000 So this is what the state... What?
00:40:27.000 No, I- I- I- I- It doesn't make any sense. It does not. The state is incinerating his weapons. That is so weird. But he
00:40:30.000 gets to have other weapons. If something's evidence, you return it to the person, or you keep it as that's possibly-
00:40:34.000 Yeah. But I guess this was a part of their plea deal. But why would they- That they agreed to. It's like- it's like a
00:40:39.000 circus. It's like they're doing this to entertain the masses. Yeah, yeah. They're like, look what we did. When
00:40:44.000 the- When like- Do you like this sound? When the- When the cops came, they took a photo of the cops taking their guns,
00:40:48.000 but from behind, and said, we don't want to reveal the identities of the officers, because we don't want people
00:40:52.000 coming after them, whatever. And I was like, that's pathetic. The cops could have said no.
00:40:57.000 The cops could have said we do not agree with this and we will not enforce unjust laws.
00:41:01.000 These Black Lives Matter individuals broke onto private property.
00:41:06.000 And we even saw, was it the AG of Missouri say that they may as well have been in their living room.
00:41:12.000 It was a private lot.
00:41:13.000 It was a private property.
00:41:14.000 The whole block was privately owned.
00:41:16.000 They could have defended themselves.
00:41:17.000 Now don't get me wrong.
00:41:18.000 I think them coming out and her like waving the gun was very dumb.
00:41:22.000 I'm not a fan of that either.
00:41:23.000 But in this...
00:41:24.000 They could have been very scared.
00:41:25.000 We don't know what that's like.
00:41:26.000 She didn't have good trigger discipline at all as well.
00:41:29.000 And she was literally having her finger on the trigger pointing the gun at her husband's
00:41:33.000 head.
00:41:34.000 Well, and there was also...
00:41:36.000 They said the firing pin was reversed and the gun was inoperable.
00:41:39.000 The...
00:41:40.000 There was two guns.
00:41:41.000 There was the AR-15.
00:41:44.000 And what looked like a revolver.
00:41:45.000 No, it wasn't a revolver.
00:41:47.000 I don't remember what it was.
00:41:48.000 It was a small handgun.
00:41:50.000 They claimed that the firing pin was reversed and the gun was inoperable.
00:41:55.000 When it was brought to the DA for evidence, they disassembled and reassembled it, and then said, oh, it works!
00:42:02.000 So a lot of people are coming out saying the state altered the evidence to claim it was a functioning device when the McCloskey said they had used it in a criminal trial before as evidence, and so the firing pin was reversed.
00:42:14.000 Maybe they're lying.
00:42:15.000 Maybe they went inside and immediately took it apart and did it.
00:42:17.000 I'm not going to accuse them of that, and I don't think the state has evidence they did that.
00:42:21.000 They just claimed that, well, upon taking it apart and putting it back together, we found it was functional.
00:42:25.000 These people should have absolutely said no.
00:42:28.000 They should have said, I will see you in court.
00:42:31.000 If no one will stand up to the system, the system will always win.
00:42:35.000 Always.
00:42:35.000 I completely disagree with you.
00:42:38.000 I think when you don't know someone's personal circumstances, it's really easy to tell them, fight.
00:42:44.000 But this is the state.
00:42:45.000 I'm sorry.
00:42:46.000 I think at a certain point, some people like discretion is a better form of valor.
00:42:49.000 And I would love, me of all people, For F's sake.
00:42:53.000 Would love it if more people defied the state and stood up to it.
00:42:56.000 But at a certain point, you're like, okay, look at Duncan Lemp.
00:43:00.000 Uh, what happened with him.
00:43:00.000 Like they, they shot, killed him at three in the morning through the window and they dragged his pregnant girlfriend through the broken glass and blighted her up.
00:43:09.000 So you're telling me that it's not, that it's impossible that the next time that they're going to make sure Antifa goes by his house and the cops are just going to take 911, put it on, uh, take the phone off the hook and let nature take its course?
00:43:23.000 Meaning, like, these kind of things happen all the time.
00:43:23.000 What do you mean?
00:43:26.000 When someone is an enemy to the state, they look the other way and make sure that person gets taken care of.
00:43:31.000 So, I mean, when you're saying, like, you should fight the state, you're asking them to really take their life into their own hands.
00:43:31.000 Yeah.
00:43:37.000 Now, I can understand how someone would do that, but it's also really easy for me to choose to understand if someone would want to not do that.
00:43:42.000 Do you know what would happen if, right now in Chicago, every single person facing trial, facing an indictment or a criminal charge, asked for a jury trial?
00:43:52.000 They would get charged with higher charges.
00:43:56.000 Not true.
00:43:57.000 If in Chicago, every single person awaiting an arraignment or whatever, charged with a crime, said jury trial, they would all instantly be dismissed.
00:44:06.000 Chicago, you think... I don't understand that.
00:44:08.000 Explain that to me.
00:44:09.000 Because the city doesn't have the capability to handle that many trials at once.
00:44:12.000 So what... Wait, wait, wait.
00:44:13.000 Okay.
00:44:14.000 Here's the two... I don't agree with you.
00:44:16.000 Because what happens is when places don't have resources, they're just going to keep you in jail longer.
00:44:20.000 Yeah.
00:44:21.000 I know friends who have been in jail for so long because of the COVID regulations.
00:44:25.000 And even COVID has stopped the court proceedings.
00:44:28.000 And what they did is just keep people in jail longer.
00:44:30.000 So I'll tell you... I gotta ask you this.
00:44:31.000 You're saying that if everyone who is arrested right now in Chicago said, I demand a jury trial, The Chicago legal system's gonna be like, we can't do this, you're all going home?
00:44:39.000 Is A the worst or the easiest?
00:44:40.000 probably would be dismissed yes so when I ended up getting charged with I think
00:44:46.000 a class C misdemeanor my brother got a class A they threat a the worst of the
00:44:50.000 easiest I actually I don't I don't know if it was a is the worst I think you got
00:44:53.000 it was I think it was a B okay I was facing 30 days my brother was facing six
00:44:57.000 months and the it was like six months of going to trial because long story short
00:45:04.000 some security guards at a mall falsely accused us and when they realized that
00:45:07.000 they got the wrong guys in a shoplifting they thought someone was
00:45:10.000 shoplifting.
00:45:11.000 They just lied to the cops.
00:45:13.000 The cops just said, whatever you say, and arrested us and charged us with assault and disorderly conduct.
00:45:18.000 They said they will give us the maximum penalty.
00:45:21.000 They said, you will plead guilty and you will take what we give you.
00:45:25.000 And at first what happened was my brother, fearing six months, said, I'll just plead guilty.
00:45:30.000 What will you have me do?
00:45:31.000 He said, we're going to give you community service.
00:45:33.000 And then I said, 30 days?
00:45:35.000 I'll go to trial.
00:45:36.000 This will be fun.
00:45:37.000 When the prosecutor heard that I said I wanted to go to trial over a slap on the wrist, they would give me community service.
00:45:43.000 She audibly screamed in the courtroom.
00:45:46.000 It shocked.
00:45:47.000 What?!
00:45:48.000 And then the judge had to tell her to chill out.
00:45:50.000 Our lawyer walks back over to us, and my brother is like, why is she yelling?
00:45:55.000 What happened?
00:45:56.000 Well, when she found out that you, like to me, being charged with a slap on the wrist level crime, wanted a jury trial, do you understand how much work that is for them?
00:46:05.000 So she's kind of mad.
00:46:07.000 My brother goes, Ever.
00:46:09.000 I want a trial now, too.
00:46:11.000 And he goes, you're sure?
00:46:12.000 And he goes, yep, jury trial.
00:46:13.000 And he goes, okay.
00:46:15.000 He walks back over and we see him go up to the prosecution, to the judge, and we hear her scream again.
00:46:20.000 And the judge starts saying, calm down.
00:46:22.000 And then they talk for a little bit.
00:46:24.000 Our lawyer walks back over to us and says the judge wants to see you in his chambers.
00:46:28.000 And the judge said, What is going on?
00:46:32.000 And we said, here's what happened.
00:46:33.000 And he goes, here's what's going to happen.
00:46:36.000 I don't want to hear any lawsuits.
00:46:37.000 I want this all to go away.
00:46:39.000 The charges are being dismissed.
00:46:40.000 You're free to go.
00:46:42.000 And we were like, yes, Your Honor.
00:46:42.000 Is that it?
00:46:43.000 He goes, have a nice day.
00:46:45.000 We asked the lawyer what happened.
00:46:47.000 And the judge, when he found out that my brother changed his mind and wanted a jury trial on a slap on the wrist charge, we'd get courts of provision and community service.
00:46:57.000 Nothing, right?
00:46:58.000 When the judge heard that and he said to the lawyer, why are your clients now trying to get a trial out of this?
00:47:05.000 We want to go home.
00:47:05.000 It's five o'clock.
00:47:07.000 And he went, um, your honor, because they're innocent.
00:47:10.000 Yeah.
00:47:10.000 And he went, oh, oh, case dismissed in my chambers.
00:47:15.000 And then he got up and walked in.
00:47:16.000 The problem is too many people just say, well, Because they're advised to be a public defender.
00:47:22.000 We were told to by our lawyer!
00:47:23.000 He said, guys, this is what's going to happen.
00:47:25.000 You're going to get community service.
00:47:27.000 It's all going to be over.
00:47:28.000 You're going to go home and play video games.
00:47:30.000 And you don't even got to do anything.
00:47:32.000 Your dad's a firefighter.
00:47:34.000 Ask him to sign the papers.
00:47:35.000 You're done.
00:47:36.000 And I said, no!
00:47:38.000 I want a jury to hear what happened when they accused me of shoplifting, beat the crap out of me and my brother when we did nothing wrong, and I'm gonna stand up there with conviction and say, I refuse to be beaten down by lying security guards who use the state because they screwed up.
00:47:53.000 And we won because of it.
00:47:54.000 Too many people are just scared.
00:47:56.000 I would gladly- I know, it was just 30 days.
00:47:58.000 They could have been facing a felony.
00:48:00.000 But I would gladly- And you didn't have families.
00:48:03.000 And she actually pointed a gun at people.
00:48:07.000 That's just me, dude, but I'm hot-headed.
00:48:09.000 They're gonna make sure that jury is gonna be filled with people who saw her brandishing that weapon.
00:48:12.000 Well, I'm very happy you brought up Duncan Lampe, but in Missouri, the Attorney General was one of the Attorney General's influence and sponsored by George Soros.
00:48:21.000 She had a proverbial hard-on for these people.
00:48:25.000 The police officers at first said we're not going to listen to these.
00:48:28.000 The DA?
00:48:29.000 Yeah, yeah, the DA in Missouri was specifically going after them.
00:48:34.000 Police officers at first said that they wouldn't comply, but then officially they complied later on through a little bit of protest.
00:48:42.000 So that's important context here as well.
00:48:44.000 Sorry, go ahead.
00:48:45.000 And can I give people some legal background?
00:48:48.000 Speaking hypothetically, because I'm not a lawyer and I'm in a position to discuss this in a legal context, hypothetically it's a fairy tale.
00:48:55.000 If you happen to be on a grand jury, here's how grand juries work.
00:48:59.000 It's going to be like 25 people.
00:49:01.000 The DA is going to bring you some evidence.
00:49:04.000 And that evidence is not there to get a conviction.
00:49:07.000 All that evidence has to do is to say, in the eyes of the grand jury, there is enough evidence here to pursue charges.
00:49:14.000 Meaning it's not nothing, it's something.
00:49:17.000 And the joke is that any good DA can get you to indict a ham sandwich.
00:49:21.000 This is basically a formality, maybe the Founding Fathers era, whatever.
00:49:25.000 That said, most people, hypothetically, tend to be in want of a leader.
00:49:31.000 They're in that room.
00:49:32.000 They don't know what's going on.
00:49:33.000 They want to do the right thing.
00:49:34.000 They don't know what that is.
00:49:35.000 The only guidance they're getting is from that junior DA.
00:49:39.000 So they're going to come in, and they're going to cop, hypothetically, and say, oh, we found this leafy substance in this guy's house, and now this 18-year-old kid is going to be thrown in jail, possibly with rapists and murderers.
00:49:50.000 His entire life is ambiguous up until he gets charged or not.
00:49:53.000 If you are in that grand jury and you say, hey guys, There's nothing holding us to return what they call a true bill, which means he's indicted.
00:50:02.000 We can just vote no and ignore the evidence and someone could say, listen, we're here, we have a responsibility.
00:50:11.000 Do you really want to ruin this kid's life because he had a lot of weed in his house and was probably selling it?
00:50:17.000 Just think about everyone you know who's ever done weed.
00:50:20.000 Do you think they should go to jail?
00:50:21.000 Think about what jail means.
00:50:22.000 It's not like I can't go to my job.
00:50:24.000 It's like I'm locked in a little room with people that I know Kill children.
00:50:29.000 Rape women repeatedly.
00:50:31.000 And what will happen, hypothetically speaking, is that those jurors, now they've been given permission to do the right thing, be like, why am I ruining this kid's life?
00:50:38.000 I know people who smoke weed.
00:50:39.000 I don't think they should be going to jail.
00:50:40.000 Maybe they shouldn't be doing the right thing.
00:50:42.000 And that DA will come back and say, how did you guys say?
00:50:45.000 And they'll say, all charge has been dropped.
00:50:47.000 And they will not be able to ask you why.
00:50:49.000 And they're just going to be very, very confused because this hasn't happened.
00:50:53.000 But you will have been in a position to save some kids' life, and he will never know who did it or why, but he'll be very grateful, and you can go to sleep that you made the world a better place.
00:51:03.000 There's also jury nullification.
00:51:04.000 That is jury nullification.
00:51:06.000 But you could be on an actual criminal proceeding.
00:51:07.000 Right.
00:51:07.000 So, in the grand jury, yes.
00:51:09.000 If you are actually sitting on a jury, and they say, this guy, you know, had weed or something, and you don't think they should be in prison for it, you can say, not guilty.
00:51:18.000 And they're like, but the evidence, it's like, the cops found it, they presented it, he admitted it was his, yeah, not guilty.
00:51:24.000 I strongly recommend people look into jury nullification, and whenever you get a jury notice, don't see it as something negative.
00:51:30.000 See it as an opportunity to provide services to the community that could actually help people.
00:51:35.000 And I just want to make a quick correction.
00:51:37.000 The Missouri Attorney General actually filed to dismiss the charges, but it was Prosecutor Kim Gardner that was the one that was strongly going after them.
00:51:46.000 And I will also add, the Governor said he wanted to pardon The gun-toting couple.
00:51:50.000 So what happened to a trial?
00:51:52.000 And then he would pardon them.
00:51:53.000 He announced that he would pardon and drop all the charges.
00:51:55.000 They should have fought every step of the way.
00:51:57.000 And you know what?
00:51:58.000 This is the... Look, I hear what you're saying.
00:52:01.000 But if the leaders we have are the ones willing to drop the knee to the enemy combatants, then... These aren't leaders.
00:52:06.000 These are just two old people.
00:52:08.000 Sure.
00:52:09.000 They're not leaders.
00:52:10.000 Then there's no cohesive resistance.
00:52:13.000 There is cohesive... Cohesive resistance doesn't have to be unanimous.
00:52:18.000 I think, Tim, I just think it's really, really easy for us to sit here and tell people we've never met.
00:52:23.000 People tell you what you should be doing all the time.
00:52:25.000 I'm sure you don't like it.
00:52:27.000 I mean, in what context?
00:52:29.000 Like online, they're like, oh, your show should be like this, your show should be like that, so on and so forth.
00:52:32.000 It's like, you don't know me.
00:52:35.000 Thank you for your opinion.
00:52:36.000 So we don't know this couple.
00:52:37.000 Maybe she's got some kind of illness.
00:52:39.000 I don't know.
00:52:40.000 Yeah, perhaps.
00:52:41.000 I'm just, like I said, maybe a little bit more hot-headed.
00:52:44.000 Like I mentioned, it could be my Soviet blood.
00:52:47.000 So my Soviet DNA is like, once the state has gotten you in the eye of Sauron, do whatever you can to get out of the eye of Sauron.
00:52:53.000 Get out, flee as much as you can.
00:52:54.000 My family fled communism in Poland because it was just getting too crazy.
00:52:58.000 Right, right, right.
00:52:59.000 That I understand.
00:53:00.000 That I understand.
00:53:01.000 The issue I take here is that, I think, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it sounds like you're saying the system works, and just because it worked for you guys, I don't know that it's at all a guarantee that it's going to work for these two.
00:53:10.000 And when you're a 63-year-old woman to go to jail?
00:53:13.000 The system didn't work for us.
00:53:14.000 Well, you got off.
00:53:15.000 It was clear the only reason we did was because the system didn't want to deal with two jury trials.
00:53:20.000 Sure, but the point is... That's how broken it was!
00:53:23.000 The point is, you managed to get the result that you wanted.
00:53:26.000 Here's the issue I take with this, for the most part.
00:53:29.000 Certainly, I understand there are circumstances where a strategic retreat makes sense.
00:53:33.000 Yeah.
00:53:34.000 It would be dumb if you're like, I'm by myself and there's 500 people in front of me, but I'm charging in anyway!
00:53:38.000 That's really dumb.
00:53:39.000 They had the support of the right.
00:53:41.000 They had the support of the governor.
00:53:42.000 They had the support of the state AG.
00:53:44.000 I didn't know that.
00:53:45.000 They could have won this.
00:53:46.000 They could have been convicted.
00:53:48.000 And then the governor could have made a statement saying, I refuse to allow this in my state.
00:53:52.000 Unconditional pardon.
00:53:53.000 He could have done it.
00:53:54.000 For whatever reason, they had no faith.
00:53:57.000 So they decided just to get out with what they could.
00:54:01.000 Give their weapons up the entire, you know.
00:54:03.000 I would not put my freedom in the hands of a governor, no matter what he said publicly at any time, because that word is worth nothing to me, and he would throw me under the bus in two seconds if it would help his re-election.
00:54:13.000 Yeah, probably.
00:54:15.000 And I think therein lies a big part of the problem and the frustration I have is that the left absolutely will do everything in their power to win.
00:54:23.000 Kamala Harris will publicly solicit donations to get criminals and rioters out of prison, and the right can't even rely on their own to support them.
00:54:30.000 Correct.
00:54:31.000 Yeah.
00:54:32.000 It's frustrating.
00:54:33.000 I wanted to point out I think maybe there is a time and a place to bend the knee when
00:54:36.000 the villain's like on your knee and then you go down on your knee and he walks up to you
00:54:40.000 and you're like, yeah, you do like a giant uppercut.
00:54:43.000 One of the things I'm talking about perhaps in my next book, The White Pill, which is
00:54:46.000 a lot about the Soviet Union is I don't think people in this country, I know people in this
00:54:51.000 country and I have no doubt Luke and you and you, you all back me up are completely oblivious
00:54:56.000 to what the state can do to people to get them to bend the knee.
00:55:00.000 It's not like good cop, why are you making that face?
00:55:03.000 We say we're oblivious to it?
00:55:04.000 I think a lot of Americans are oblivious to it.
00:55:06.000 Oh, you're saying not us?
00:55:07.000 Not us.
00:55:07.000 I'm not saying not the people in this room, but I'm saying a lot of Americans, like, When Castro died, right, and there was all these laudatory obituaries about him, and I'm like, you know, in a way it's kind of good that you guys have no idea what this is like.
00:55:21.000 That you think like, oh, he's basically like a liberal Democrat or like a Trump figure.
00:55:25.000 Like, you have no clue.
00:55:26.000 And I want a world, in a sense, where people are like, I kind of get that hypothetically, but I can't imagine this being reality.
00:55:32.000 So I can appreciate that.
00:55:33.000 So the things that the Soviets did to break these people, They haven't come over here yet, but one of the things they always do, like they'll arrest people on a Friday night, and they want them to squeal, they're in jail till Monday, and it's like, I only need to break one of you, and the offer's good for that one person, so who's it gonna be?
00:55:51.000 Monday morning, they're banging that door, and you can't blame them!
00:55:53.000 My favorite is seeing people wear Che Guevara shirts and understanding that history and context.
00:55:59.000 And you're absolutely right.
00:56:01.000 I had family members that were tortured by the government under a communist regime.
00:56:07.000 And when you wake up to that reality, when you speak to your family, when you hear the stories, when so much knowledge is passed on to you, which barely happens, The United States had it too good for too long, and I think now we're finally dealing with a lot of the larger ramifications of what happens when things are too good.
00:56:25.000 You know, the CIA didn't know how to torture people to get most of that.
00:56:27.000 They had to use KGB manuals.
00:56:28.000 We didn't have any background.
00:56:31.000 Look this up.
00:56:31.000 Double check that.
00:56:32.000 Maybe I'm talking out of my butt, but just double check me, but I'm 99% sure that's the case.
00:56:36.000 I suppose the issue I have right now is that There's, uh... Wait, I gotta say one more thing.
00:56:40.000 Tim, don't you think it's not, maybe it's not literal torture, it's not literal torture, but if you're like a senior citizen close to it and you're in prison over a weekend, that's gonna really do a huge number on you psychologically.
00:56:50.000 Come on.
00:56:50.000 I mean, I was in jail for a few days for doing journalism and reporting and it takes a toll on you.
00:56:55.000 You definitely don't want to be in there.
00:56:57.000 And then you, to know your wife is somewhere in this building separated from you and you're like, I hope she's okay and you know how she is and she doesn't even know how to hold a gun correctly.
00:57:05.000 That's, Tim, that's scary!
00:57:07.000 And trauma makes people make, you know, very conflict-averse decisions.
00:57:11.000 I guess... I think the larger lesson here... I'm just different.
00:57:14.000 I'm hot-headed.
00:57:15.000 I think the larger... I don't know if I can explain it.
00:57:17.000 I've been in conflict situations where my life was at risk, and I've returned to those situations.
00:57:22.000 And perhaps it's because I don't have children, maybe?
00:57:25.000 Sure.
00:57:26.000 When I was in Brazil, I went to the... What is it called?
00:57:30.000 Cidade da Polícia.
00:57:31.000 The city of police.
00:57:32.000 The police city.
00:57:33.000 It's like their big compound.
00:57:34.000 And we had plainclothes cops basically walk up to us, Take us in, take our phones, shut them off.
00:57:40.000 They brought us into this back area, into this closed, no window, with a couch.
00:57:44.000 And the first thing I did as soon as they started taking us, before they took our phones, because I texted, this was when I was at Vice, like, we're being taken by Brazilian secret police or something, undercover.
00:57:53.000 And I don't know where they're bringing us, but just so you know, here we are.
00:57:56.000 Then they took our phones, shut them off.
00:57:58.000 They brought us in this back room and I started laughing.
00:58:00.000 I was like, so this is where we get beaten up and tortured?
00:58:03.000 And they held us there, started interrogating us, and then after about like a half an hour, someone ran in, you know, panicked in Portuguese, and they brought us back out and apologized.
00:58:12.000 So, you know, experiencing that, and then, not the end of the world, but certainly being brought through this complex and then being brought into this back room, not knowing what to expect or where they were bringing us.
00:58:23.000 And also, I've also ridden vehicles with I don't know how to describe individuals like violent extremists and revolutionaries armed with guns.
00:58:31.000 I was in Charlottesville.
00:58:33.000 I mean, I know what you're talking about.
00:58:34.000 This stuff gets scary really quick.
00:58:36.000 But I returned to those places.
00:58:38.000 Not the same specific ones that have actually spoken out against, but like experiencing Venezuela where I was accused of being a spy and forced to flee the country and then having the Venezuelan someone hack my friend's Facebook to send me fake messages to get me to make phone calls.
00:58:52.000 Then to just go back into Thailand.
00:58:54.000 You know, I understand.
00:58:56.000 I'm not going to return to Venezuela.
00:58:57.000 I can't go to Thailand.
00:58:59.000 But I would go initially, constantly facing that danger.
00:59:02.000 I'm well aware of what it means to stand up and fight.
00:59:05.000 And I'm well aware that you must plant the trees whose shade you know you'll never sit beneath if you want a society to grow great.
00:59:13.000 That means, for me personally, strategy is involved, right?
00:59:16.000 So when it comes to censorship on YouTube, one of the biggest criticisms we get is, Tim, why won't you just say it?
00:59:20.000 Well, I'm not gonna get the whole show banned, and our opportunity to speak the truth by saying one thing, but that's why we're building a website.
00:59:28.000 We gotta be strategic about it.
00:59:29.000 So I will contend, I don't know everything about the McCloskey situation, and perhaps a strategic retreat made sense.
00:59:34.000 I'll give one a scenario where it would make perfect sense to everybody, which is, what if they have a kid who's like, mom, I really don't need you to be the face of the gun rights movement, can we just make this go away, and I want to have a normal family, and I don't want to be famous.
00:59:45.000 That is a perfectly good reason to be like, yeah, you know what, I'm not going to fight this.
00:59:48.000 But the father's running to be a senator.
00:59:48.000 I disagree.
00:59:50.000 Sure, that's, who knows, but I'm saying that would be one scenario, maybe it's not literally them, where I could be like, you know what, I'm not going to do this.
00:59:57.000 What if the wife is like, I don't have the fortitude for this?
01:00:01.000 And she could have individually taken a deal.
01:00:05.000 I just grew up constantly frustrated at the lack of unity.
01:00:10.000 Solidarity, how's that for a word?
01:00:12.000 When I would see my friends constantly complain about how they work for a restaurant and it's unfair, they're not getting paid enough.
01:00:18.000 And I'd say, so if you all agree, why don't you all just stop working?
01:00:22.000 And they're like, oh no, I have to.
01:00:23.000 And I'm like, there's five of you.
01:00:24.000 You could literally just walk out the front door and stand there and say, we're not going to walk back in the building unless we get another dollar an hour.
01:00:30.000 And they'd say, yes, please get back to work.
01:00:32.000 Well, I can't do that.
01:00:33.000 I'm like, well, then you're not going to get your dollar an hour.
01:00:35.000 What do you mean?
01:00:36.000 If people just stood up for themselves, if everyone finally just agreed, we'd be done with it.
01:00:41.000 If people had principle, value, strength, courage, and were willing to make the sacrifices to defend freedom, individual liberties, we would have never have hit it at risk in the first place.
01:00:52.000 It's coordination, too.
01:00:53.000 You need all these values along with some sort of sociological coordination.
01:00:57.000 Because if you do it one by one, it's just whack-a-mole.
01:00:59.000 It's true.
01:01:00.000 Yeah, it's true.
01:01:01.000 And that's the thing.
01:01:01.000 If everyone in Chicago demanded a jury trial, what I bet would happen, and I think if you thought about this through, you would think this would happen too, they would take a very few cases up front, make real examples out of them, charge them with everything that they could, and then ask everyone else, you sure you want the jury trial?
01:01:15.000 And if they said, yep, I think a lot of those people would break, and I wouldn't blame them for one bit.
01:01:20.000 The point is, for everyone to stand up and say, I demand a jury trial, would be them standing strong.
01:01:26.000 Assuming the people don't break, they win.
01:01:28.000 But I don't see any scenario where an entire population acts in concert as pressure increases.
01:01:33.000 It's just a cost.
01:01:34.000 I agree, I agree.
01:01:35.000 The problem is, they don't work together.
01:01:38.000 Sure.
01:01:40.000 The system cannot maintain that many jury trials.
01:01:43.000 Barely a fraction of them.
01:01:45.000 But that's why we have public education, so that these kids are taught from kindergarten, before they can really walk and read, that the authorities are genuinely good people, who maybe they get it wrong sometimes, maybe they're not always smart, they're a little ignorant sometimes, but they do want what's best for everyone.
01:02:01.000 That you have to punish some people to save everybody else.
01:02:04.000 They're the good guys.
01:02:05.000 So it's very hard to realize As an adult, when this has been your entire context, that you are a means to an end for these people in law enforcement, that they have certain numbers and quotas they want to meet, that they get off on getting those convictions, or else this wouldn't be their job, because how could you sleep at night if you're putting away people you even suspect are innocent?
01:02:24.000 So yeah, it's much more malevolent.
01:02:27.000 And what they were doing to you and your brother, you and your lawyer, who you had, was another version of good cop, bad cop.
01:02:34.000 Because then you have the lady screaming and your lawyer could be like, Hey, I'm a good guy.
01:02:38.000 I'm just going to get you community service.
01:02:39.000 How can you lose?
01:02:40.000 Look at this crazy lunatic.
01:02:41.000 You don't want to deal with bad cop.
01:02:42.000 I'm good cop.
01:02:43.000 I'm your buddy.
01:02:44.000 And most people be like, Hey, I want to listen to good cop.
01:02:46.000 I'm going to take this deal.
01:02:49.000 You know, I think I was just, I refuse.
01:02:53.000 I think that's extremely commendable.
01:02:55.000 You know, I but some regards, but like I've been to North Korea, you know what I mean?
01:03:00.000 I know some that this is obviously not North Korean situation.
01:03:03.000 It's very I'm very reticent to encourage people to take risks without knowing their situation.
01:03:09.000 That said, I 1000% and defiance of mathematics agree with you that if everyone
01:03:16.000 unanimously or a large portion of population stood up and said, we're going no further.
01:03:22.000 that's going to be really, really hard for them to do anything about.
01:03:25.000 And it's only, I think, actually a few percentage points of a population.
01:03:28.000 I agree.
01:03:28.000 Look at the Revolutionary War.
01:03:30.000 It was supported by less than the majority, but I think the largest faction of people in the Revolution was Leave Me Alone.
01:03:30.000 Exactly.
01:03:37.000 Yes.
01:03:38.000 yes with most elections right absolutely so if uh... right now
01:03:38.000 Yes.
01:03:43.000 there was just general mass non-compliance or general strike among
01:03:46.000 conservatives the general strikes the wrong words has non-compliance by
01:03:49.000 better keep working support yourself grow your own food on your own food
01:03:53.000 shopman shop locally organically and just stop using the major corporations
01:03:56.000 they'd be in panic in two seconds how you coordinate that's it's i think a lot about how you
01:04:01.000 could make a an internet video be like
01:04:03.000 everyone i'm just saying hypothetically you could courtney people like withdraw
01:04:06.000 their bank account on the same day at the same time basically collapse the house of cards
01:04:12.000 But this is what's kind of happening with like your show and like my book and our sponsors is that people have an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is and to create this parallel economy and parallel culture and they're doing it peacefully.
01:04:24.000 And they're doing it through freedom and it's something where, this is with the beauty of free enterprise, literally everybody wins.
01:04:30.000 The sponsor sells their product and they're also supporting people they like.
01:04:34.000 That person gets to do his book or his show.
01:04:36.000 As an audience member, I'm getting a product I wanted anyway and part of this money is going to make sure something I enjoy stays in perpetuity.
01:04:42.000 It's all wins all around.
01:04:44.000 I'm short-term pessimistic, long-term optimistic.
01:04:46.000 Yes, that's my point too.
01:04:47.000 And the reason I think so is looking at the website we're launching at TimCast.com and the things that we're building, I'm 100% confident we're going to succeed.
01:04:55.000 Yes!
01:04:56.000 And that means if there is a new expansion in media, which I firmly believe will be one of the biggest media companies in 10-20 years, and news and all that stuff, then what does that future
01:05:08.000 look like?
01:05:09.000 It looks like a large amount, hundreds of millions of people around the world,
01:05:12.000 will be getting real news and will have the content we produce will be rooted in
01:05:18.000 individual liberties and freedom and personal responsibility.
01:05:20.000 But this is what I talk about all the time.
01:05:22.000 People are like, how are you optimistic?
01:05:23.000 Are you just blowing smoke up my butt?
01:05:24.000 I go, look at Don Lemon.
01:05:26.000 Look at the White House press corps.
01:05:29.000 Look at the staff at Harvard Law.
01:05:31.000 You're telling me these people are smarter, more educated, and more coordinated, and have more power than Stalin?
01:05:37.000 Then Hitler?
01:05:38.000 But you have to laugh, but we beat them.
01:05:41.000 This is who you're up against now and you think you're going to lose?
01:05:43.000 It's the banks.
01:05:43.000 Are you crazy?
01:05:44.000 I think that capitalism is incredibly symbiotic.
01:05:49.000 But when you install a banking system in the middle that's profiting and causing interest, basically induced slave labor on us, that's the problem.
01:05:58.000 If we could remove the banks and each of us hold our own crypto, you know, with your own crypto, you're basically your own bank.
01:06:02.000 I'm going to follow Luke's advice.
01:06:02.000 There's no more banks.
01:06:04.000 What Luke would say is we need to fund the Fed.
01:06:07.000 We need to increase the Fed's powers over currency to make sure we're all fair.
01:06:12.000 Right, Luke?
01:06:13.000 Protests give all of your money and make it meaningless and then we have monopoly money everywhere.
01:06:18.000 No, I'm just kidding.
01:06:19.000 That's basically the point.
01:06:21.000 I mean, we basically already have monopoly money with how much they're printing it.
01:06:24.000 Yes!
01:06:24.000 But I think also another aspect here that we have to entertain is that the state is becoming more
01:06:28.000 and more desperate. We're seeing more and more draconian measures being implemented. We're
01:06:32.000 seeing a lot of FBI infiltration, organizing, setting up events that they later take credit for
01:06:38.000 bringing down. We have this latest revelation about the Capitol riots where a lot of the people
01:06:44.000 are not being charged because they were either cooperating or helped organized,
01:06:49.000 planned and carried out the events that they're no longer being held responsible for.
01:06:53.000 This as the Biden administration literally announces their new war on terror, which is
01:06:57.000 a domestic war on people who don't like the government, militias and their buzzword of the
01:07:02.000 day, white supremacy, which could mean anything because that word has been bastardized so many
01:07:07.000 Did you see the AP's refusing to report on some crimes?
01:07:10.000 No.
01:07:10.000 So the AP, a news organization, as a news organization, my job is to provide information to the populace, ostensibly.
01:07:17.000 It's what they always say.
01:07:17.000 Free press, free democracy, blah.
01:07:19.000 The Associated Press, which is an extremely big, very respected news organization, they had an article this week where they said, we are no longer going to report on the names or show mugshots if someone is arrested for a crime that's not that big a deal because we don't want this to like haunt them throughout the rest of their life, that they're googled, their life's worth.
01:07:38.000 Okay, so wait, wait, wait.
01:07:39.000 You do a crappy little crime, shoplifting or whatever, the AP will cover the story but they won't mention your name or mugshot, but I tweeted some rap lyrics in high school and now I got this job as an athlete, well let's drive you to suicide.
01:07:53.000 So it's very clear what they regard as a real threat and a real crime and what they don't.
01:07:58.000 Well, there's good news.
01:08:00.000 There is a political party that's going to find us a way out.
01:08:04.000 I love you so much!
01:08:05.000 I love doing this show!
01:08:06.000 I love this show!
01:08:07.000 Let's make history.
01:08:08.000 Michael, what's going on with the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire?
01:08:16.000 Okay, so this is I am going to give a garbled version of this because this is like playing telephone But I'm very very glad I get to do this because then everyone could be like okay He's talking out of his butt.
01:08:30.000 Let me double-check and when they look it up.
01:08:32.000 They'll be like no this is right so Dave Smith, who's this aspiring comedian you guys have had on the show.
01:08:38.000 He's great.
01:08:39.000 He's amazing.
01:08:40.000 He is a big member of the Libertarian Party, and his followers are something called the Mises Caucus, which is named after this very failed think tank, the Mises Institute.
01:08:47.000 So they're the more radical of the Libertarians, right?
01:08:51.000 So he's brought a lot of energy to the Libertarian Party, which has historically and correctly been regarded as a joke.
01:08:58.000 And state by state they've had these conventions and they've been electing their slates for delegates, whatever the position is, and the Mecocks people have been running the table because he's just bringing all the energy and it's all these kind of like lowest status people who have nothing to bring to the table other than this is their chance to be members of the party.
01:09:15.000 They won in New Hampshire.
01:09:17.000 New Hampshire, of all the states, that's the home of the Free State Project.
01:09:23.000 That's where all the hardcore libertarians move to.
01:09:25.000 People can look up the Free State Project.
01:09:27.000 It's a great idea.
01:09:28.000 I highly encourage people to look it up.
01:09:30.000 What happened was, what was the woman's name?
01:09:32.000 She's Gigi.
01:09:32.000 I sent you the woman who's the head of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire.
01:09:39.000 Joletta Jarvis.
01:09:40.000 She was their candidate for governor.
01:09:42.000 I sent you the letter, please you can read it, where she basically said everyone who was in the Libertarian Party previously is now not part of the Libertarian Party.
01:09:55.000 I am the Libertarian Party because I got unanimously voted to be the chair.
01:09:59.000 I'm going to pass a new series of bylaws unilaterally.
01:10:02.000 No one vote on them.
01:10:04.000 I am going to extend my term to four years.
01:10:06.000 No one vote on this.
01:10:08.000 And now this is the new LP and you guys are not the LP, right?
01:10:12.000 So they're like, well, we have all the bank accounts and all the everything else.
01:10:16.000 She has their Twitter, their Twitter.
01:10:18.000 I just went full Brooklyn.
01:10:20.000 Yeah, it was hardcore.
01:10:21.000 Two Utes!
01:10:21.000 What is a Ute?
01:10:23.000 Did I just get possessed by Snooki?
01:10:23.000 What just happened?
01:10:26.000 Okay, she has their Twitter and their social media and this was a huge drama.
01:10:31.000 It's like you just stole the entire thing and you're worried about this kind of like alt-right thing.
01:10:35.000 You're acting like a fuhrer.
01:10:37.000 The Libertarian National Committee had a meeting on YouTube.
01:10:41.000 You could go look it up a couple days ago.
01:10:42.000 They voted, and they basically endorsed what she did.
01:10:47.000 They're like, look, if you want to dissolve one state party, we have that in our constitution or bylaws, which is, you have a meeting, you call a motion, you're like, alright, three quarters of a vote, I think it is, this Libertarian Party of New Hampshire dissolves the nuclear option, we're going to reform it.
01:11:03.000 She's like, we didn't do that.
01:11:04.000 If you want to do that, let's have the vote.
01:11:05.000 They're like, nope.
01:11:06.000 Now the guy who's the head of the Libertarian Party, John Bishop Henchman, I think is his name, he sent out a letter, which Lydia has, and he says, anyone, by the way, I should let you know as a lawyer, this is great libertarianism, anyone who casts aspersions on my integrity, or, can you please read it?
01:11:22.000 Blah blah blah blah is setting themselves up for legal action, just so you're warned.
01:11:26.000 And people are like, whoa wait, you're the head of the Libertarian Party, very arguably a public figure, and you're threatening lawsuits against fellow Libertarians?
01:11:34.000 But apparently I got a message from Dave that they completely lost, everything's getting handed over right now.
01:11:38.000 Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of pushback against the Libertarian Party on Twitter, and the Free State Project tweeted a couple days ago, quote, the Free State Project was explicitly founded as a result of the continued failures of the Libertarian Party.
01:11:51.000 We're thrilled to see New Hampshire be growing increasingly Libertarian, and very few Free Staters care what party does it.
01:12:00.000 So a lot of people are pushing back, and I'm seeing people burning t-shirts, I'm seeing somebody sell their t-shirts.
01:12:05.000 I am here to declare, let me finish this by points, Following suit with what's her name again?
01:12:10.000 Jaleva Jarvis.
01:12:11.000 I am hereby declaring that I'm actually the chairman of the Libertarian Party.
01:12:15.000 That all these people who are claiming to be otherwise are fraudulent.
01:12:19.000 I'm kind of the Libertarian Party chairman in exile.
01:12:21.000 And I expect all the party assets to be returned to me according to the new bylaws, which I'm writing, which will be forthcoming.
01:12:27.000 Can I second that?
01:12:28.000 Yes!
01:12:29.000 Absolutely.
01:12:30.000 I also will endorse that.
01:12:31.000 I got a couple questions.
01:12:32.000 The Free State Project, is that like where they're trying to get all the people to come there and like become residents and then vote for freedom or something?
01:12:38.000 And slowly go into positions in local government.
01:12:38.000 Yes.
01:12:42.000 And they have elected a large number of local representatives that passed a lot of local laws, including ones where you could now choose your tax dollars to go to nonprofits that teach people how to homeschool their children.
01:12:56.000 So your taxes could effectively go towards efforts that free children and educate them through a community way instead of a public schooling way.
01:13:04.000 And New Hampshire slowly and surely is implementing a lot of different actions, a lot of different proposals, and they're getting them through, which is absolutely exciting.
01:13:11.000 How are the taxes in New Hampshire?
01:13:13.000 It's the lowest.
01:13:14.000 It's one of the lowest tax places, but property taxes are a little bit high, but it's the place that has some of the highest gun ownership.
01:13:22.000 I think it's the highest.
01:13:24.000 Yeah, and the least amount of murders, the least amount of crime, the place with the highest IQ, the most amount of homeschooled children, the place that has the most economic opportunities, and the most amount of Bitcoiners, and more Bitcoin transactions than any other state in the Union.
01:13:40.000 Because they have a list of all the things that are awesome.
01:13:40.000 What's their URL?
01:13:42.000 I mean, this is why I moved to New Hampshire, and I'm going to be going back there in just a few days to be a part of Porkfest.
01:13:48.000 Oh, wow, do you live next to Polish people?
01:13:50.000 I want to do well now. It's like I was actually a lot of Polish people in New Hampshire. Let's go back
01:13:55.000 Let's go to this lady gel out of Jarvis she's trying to take over the party. No, no, she has taken over
01:14:03.000 Okay, declared herself to be the party. She's declared it.
01:14:05.000 She is the fuhrer of the Libertarian Party Is it because Dave Smith they don't like or yeah
01:14:10.000 Because they're saying Dave Smith is bringing all these bigots and racists and all these other
01:14:15.000 Cathedral terms and that that's not what we're about. So oh my god, I finished it. I forgot the best part she
01:14:20.000 She said, and this is if you go to LPNH, their Twitter, the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire,
01:14:26.000 if you want to join the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, you have to sign or say,
01:14:30.000 I don't remember what their mechanism is, a loyalty oath that she wrote.
01:14:34.000 And she put it, go to LPNH, their Twitter.
01:14:36.000 Is it just at LPNH?
01:14:37.000 Yeah, I believe so.
01:14:40.000 It's a big graphic.
01:14:43.000 So Michael, is this just because they've gotten woke?
01:14:44.000 post it within last week maybe a 12th.
01:14:47.000 So Michael is this just because they've gotten woke?
01:14:50.000 Is that a symptom?
01:14:51.000 They've been woke and now they're being this is what it is.
01:14:54.000 The Libertarian Party is a mechanism for lowest status people to have some modicum of respect
01:15:01.000 and do something with their lives.
01:15:02.000 And now that they're being outnumbered and the only thing that's of value to them is being taken away, of course they're going to use every trick at their disposal to maintain their hold on this minuscule amount of power.
01:15:13.000 Now, this is my interpretation.
01:15:15.000 They, of course, have a different perspective that we're keeping libertarian parties safe from Nazis, like Dave Smith, even though he's a family of Holocaust survivors.
01:15:21.000 But that is kind of the two sides of this issue.
01:15:23.000 And it's hilarious Because I was watching that YouTube of the Executive Channel meeting, and I go, this must have been what the Communist Party meetings were like in the 30s, except everyone's on the spectrum.
01:15:34.000 Yeah.
01:15:35.000 So Dave Smith tweeted, the LPNH fiasco has been resolved.
01:15:38.000 The attempted coup has failed.
01:15:39.000 This was not an LPMC versus LP thing.
01:15:42.000 This was a few corrupt people versus all of the decent, honorable people in the Libertarian Party.
01:15:47.000 Real Spike Cohen, Justin Amash.
01:15:49.000 Amash, yeah.
01:15:50.000 Carrie... what is it?
01:15:51.000 Carrie Ann Harlow?
01:15:53.000 Yes.
01:15:53.000 Harlow?
01:15:54.000 And others displayed true integrity.
01:15:55.000 So I wonder if they took down the loyalty oath thing because I couldn't find it.
01:15:59.000 Oh, wow.
01:15:59.000 They might.
01:15:59.000 I'll look forward to it.
01:16:00.000 The other thing is they were threatening legal action.
01:16:02.000 They're like, okay, this has nothing to do with your politics.
01:16:05.000 Like, no one vote on this.
01:16:06.000 You can't just one lady say these are the new bylaws.
01:16:08.000 That makes no sense.
01:16:09.000 Right.
01:16:10.000 So if I vote for Dave Smith, will I get a Press Secretary Michael Malice along with it?
01:16:18.000 Yeah, so here's what my deal was, okay?
01:16:21.000 If you go to maliceorpresssecretary.com, I said to myself, the only way I would sign on to... I would be Press Secretary during the campaign, not even in the presidency.
01:16:30.000 I would say I would sign on as Communications Director If I had one Bitcoin a month in the bank as security, because if they came for me and they try to completely cancel me and destroy me and all these smear pieces, I have to know I'm not going to be homeless.
01:16:45.000 That would be the greatest thing we have seen in politics in my lifetime.
01:16:48.000 And I promised people, and I will say this right now and I'll affirm to it under oath, I would unleash such a season of poison on social media that Donald Trump would look like Mother Teresa.
01:17:03.000 I'm not kidding.
01:17:05.000 The amount of hatred and contempt I have for political class is so off the charts that I literally can't even talk about it because the show I would be on would be cancelled.
01:17:15.000 That's not saying much now.
01:17:18.000 Everyone gets cancelled now.
01:17:24.000 I want to be part of the cabinet, man.
01:17:26.000 Let's roll.
01:17:27.000 Let's build free software.
01:17:29.000 I feel like you'd be the Hunter Biden of this administration.
01:17:34.000 I kind of feel Ian's going to be in a bed with a pipe.
01:17:39.000 Psychedelics all the way.
01:17:40.000 I'm not into the crazy stuff.
01:17:42.000 No crack.
01:17:43.000 No cocaine.
01:17:44.000 Have you tried crack?
01:17:45.000 Negative.
01:17:47.000 Not into stimulants and downers and uppers.
01:17:50.000 I just like psychedelics.
01:17:51.000 Drugs are bad, okay?
01:17:52.000 Hey!
01:17:53.000 Sugar!
01:17:54.000 But what I want to see is your quick wit when the journalists come asking questions.
01:17:59.000 Do you know what I would do?
01:18:00.000 I'll tell you exactly what I would do.
01:18:01.000 Tell me what you'd do.
01:18:02.000 The thing that is a real issue with Washington Is that everyone it's very incestuous now in a way it's it sounds worse than it is because if you're all like in like a upper middle upper class and you're all swimming the same circles of course the person who works for this organization works is going to marry someone who works for this university.
01:18:19.000 I mean these are circles traveling.
01:18:21.000 But to Americans, it looks much more nefarious.
01:18:23.000 And I think, in a sense, it is more nefarious than people realize because if your wife works for this charity, you're kind of going to have a different relationship to it.
01:18:30.000 You can't help it.
01:18:30.000 This is your wife.
01:18:31.000 This is her life's work, right?
01:18:32.000 But if you have that press secretary constantly pointing out these relationships, this is really going to, A, upset them, which is a good in and of itself, but it'll also point out to Americans just how the system is us versus them.
01:18:45.000 George Carlin, It's a big club, and you ain't in it.
01:18:48.000 So I think- It's the same big club they used to beat you over the head with.
01:18:51.000 Yeah.
01:18:51.000 So this is the kind of thing where I think people would be very receptive, because it's one thing to be aggressive, like, oh, you're an idiot, you're fake news.
01:18:58.000 It's not to be like, look, you guys are all in this big kind of high school thing, and that leaves the average guy out in the streets, and President Smith is doing something about it.
01:19:07.000 Because he's much more of a schlub than he is one of you.
01:19:10.000 It would be- Have you seen how he dresses?
01:19:12.000 It's a disaster.
01:19:13.000 I don't say it, others do.
01:19:17.000 I think the Libertarian Party for the longest time was, I don't want to say controlled opposition,
01:19:24.000 but you look at Joe Jorgensen coming out and telling people what they must do was one of
01:19:28.000 the funniest things ever.
01:19:29.000 She went to Dershowitz, a part of the Supreme Court.
01:19:32.000 Yeah.
01:19:32.000 That's that's what she said.
01:19:34.000 It is not enough to be not racist.
01:19:36.000 We must be actively anti-racist.
01:19:37.000 And I was like, sure is something seeing the Libertarian Party telling me what I must do.
01:19:41.000 The Libertarian Party in New Hampshire unfollowed me.
01:19:45.000 As we're speaking.
01:19:45.000 It said follows you when I hit refresh, you went away.
01:19:47.000 Oh, but they took it back.
01:19:50.000 One minute ago, literally one minute ago, they pinned tweet.
01:19:53.000 We're back!
01:19:54.000 Three exclamation points.
01:19:55.000 The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire is now in control of our assets and data.
01:19:58.000 We would like to sincerely thank those on the LNC who came to our defense and those who supported us.
01:20:03.000 Help us further our mission at, and the link is anarchisthandbook.com.
01:20:07.000 So if you want to help the Libertarian Party, make sure you buy the anarchist handbook.
01:20:09.000 This is your book.
01:20:10.000 Yeah, let's talk about your book.
01:20:11.000 So you just this is like top of the charts.
01:20:15.000 Number one best selling not was it fiction?
01:20:18.000 They erased all the tweets.
01:20:19.000 No, no, you're right.
01:20:20.000 So this, this is what happened.
01:20:22.000 And I have no rational explanation.
01:20:25.000 Okay.
01:20:26.000 I did, many of you guys know, I was just on Jordan Peterson's show not too long ago.
01:20:29.000 We taped it a few months ago, it just dropped.
01:20:31.000 I didn't even mention this book in the show at all.
01:20:33.000 So I just, how Amazon works, and can I get like five minutes, because this is something I think it's me edifying, because this is an example of how the regular person can take on the publishing houses and win, okay?
01:20:44.000 If you want, and it's unfortunate it's going to be through Amazon, but right now they basically have a monopoly.
01:20:48.000 Soon there's going to be four or five venues.
01:20:50.000 How it works is, you create your document, make sure you get a professional book designer, so on and so forth, you upload it to their CreateSpace site, they have to clear it, and then once they clear it, it's on Amazon to buy, just like any other book.
01:21:02.000 The problem is, when I sent them this, which is a collection, people always ask me, And I would get bored with it.
01:21:09.000 I'm like, I don't have time to answer your question.
01:21:10.000 I'm like, you know what?
01:21:11.000 There is no book that people can go to to get the complete idea of all the colors of the black flag.
01:21:16.000 So I'm like, I'm going to put together this book of historical essays.
01:21:18.000 So they'd email me back.
01:21:19.000 They'd be like, we have a problem with this essay.
01:21:21.000 When did this person die?
01:21:22.000 I'm like, Michael Bakunin died in like the 1800s.
01:21:24.000 This is public domain.
01:21:25.000 We have a question about this one.
01:21:26.000 And in between, it's three or four days.
01:21:28.000 So you're sitting there, you don't know how many days it's going to happen.
01:21:31.000 Then they're like, it's live.
01:21:32.000 So if there's no, you can't have a release date.
01:21:34.000 My next book, I'm going to get it cleared ahead of time so that I can hit published on whatever, December 1st.
01:21:39.000 It drops.
01:21:40.000 And no, I didn't mention it on any of the shows I did.
01:21:43.000 I didn't have a big push because I didn't know when it was coming out.
01:21:46.000 For a full day, It was the number three book on all of Amazon.
01:21:51.000 It was the top non-fiction book on all of Amazon.
01:21:53.000 Number one was Dr. Seuss, number two was some ladies novel, number three was me.
01:21:57.000 It wasn't like a spike because I did some show or someone mentioned it.
01:22:01.000 The fact that it still... So it was beating Obama.
01:22:04.000 It was beating Hillary.
01:22:05.000 It was beating President Trump.
01:22:07.000 It was beating Oprah.
01:22:08.000 Everybody.
01:22:09.000 And the only way this happened was through fans and word of mouth.
01:22:14.000 I still don't understand how it happened because it's asymptotic.
01:22:17.000 It is much, much harder to go from 20 to 10 than from 30 to 20.
01:22:21.000 You're getting steeper and steeper.
01:22:22.000 We did it.
01:22:23.000 I'm delighted by the response.
01:22:25.000 And this is a good example of how one person with a motivated fan base spreading the ideas of liberty As opposed to Libertarian Party.
01:22:33.000 I was on Breitbart earlier this week.
01:22:34.000 Alex Marlow, who's great.
01:22:35.000 He's got a book out.
01:22:36.000 We're doing better.
01:22:37.000 Sorry, Alex.
01:22:38.000 He was reading a whole section of Emma Goldman on Breitbart.
01:22:42.000 The fact that I could have people talking about radical ideas, and people are hungry for radical ideas, shows that there is a market for it.
01:22:50.000 People love to talk about these concepts, but they're not usually allowed to in corporate media.
01:22:55.000 The LP wants none of it.
01:22:56.000 And that's why they're a joke.
01:22:57.000 And that's why when I take over, it's going to be really funny.
01:23:00.000 I think we were some of those fans.
01:23:02.000 You were!
01:23:02.000 You guys pushed it.
01:23:03.000 It means a lot.
01:23:05.000 Are you still chairman though?
01:23:07.000 I think I'd be chairman in the Chinese sense.
01:23:09.000 So one of the things we had said, right, we keep getting super chats where people are like, they'll say something innocuous and then turn it into a pitch for Michael Knowles' book.
01:23:18.000 Sure, okay.
01:23:18.000 So it'll be like, you know, I can't believe what they're doing with cancel culture on social media.
01:23:23.000 It's leaving me speechless, much like Michael Noza's book, Speechless.
01:23:26.000 That's clever.
01:23:26.000 And whenever, you know, so we read them and it is clever.
01:23:29.000 But I always say, so I've, you know, chatted with Michael a little bit and he's just like, oh man, are they, they're still pushing that meme.
01:23:36.000 And I was like, it's fantastic, I love it.
01:23:38.000 Yeah, it's organic.
01:23:39.000 I want everyone to buy your book so it's at the top of the charts.
01:23:42.000 I want everyone to buy Michael Malice's book so it's at the top of the charts.
01:23:45.000 I want everyone to buy Andy Ngo's book, unmasked, top of the charts.
01:23:48.000 All of them.
01:23:49.000 Then when regular people go to Amazon to find a book, what are they going to get?
01:23:53.000 The most influential subjects are going to be written by smart people challenging the
01:23:56.000 establishment.
01:23:57.000 And here, I'm going to let you guys in a little inside baseball.
01:24:00.000 I've not told anyone this is the first time revealing this.
01:24:03.000 I got a call from one of the major, major publishers.
01:24:06.000 There's only four or five of them.
01:24:07.000 And this is an editor I knew.
01:24:09.000 And he goes, your book got flagged.
01:24:11.000 Because whenever you have these independent books that do gangbusters, it's our job to be like, how did this happen?
01:24:17.000 And he's getting on a call with me, and I like the guy, but I'm going to tell him, you guys are screwed.
01:24:22.000 There's nothing you can do to fix your model.
01:24:24.000 You're going to go the way of Warner Brothers Atlantic Records, which back in the day, there were four or five record labels.
01:24:28.000 All the records were through them.
01:24:30.000 Now you guys still have a large proportion, just like ABC, CBS, and NBC have of sitcoms.
01:24:35.000 But in terms of channels, there's not only dozens.
01:24:38.000 On YouTube, it's literally infinite.
01:24:40.000 You are never going to be in position to be Random House or Saint Martins or Simon & Schuster the way you were because I right now have demonstrated to you and I'm not magic that I could go there and beat you at your own game and here's the other thing let's suppose that they can run the table on me if I sold this book to them on January 1st it would come out January 2023
01:25:03.000 What happened was in February, a fan of mine, Marla, said, look, there hasn't been a book like this.
01:25:07.000 The last one that was like this in the 60s, why don't you do that audiobook?
01:25:10.000 And I said, why don't you just do it from scratch?
01:25:12.000 And it was out in May.
01:25:14.000 So that turnaround is something they are not in a position to do.
01:25:18.000 So what this book is, it's a collection of essays by a bunch of famous anarchists.
01:25:22.000 And you're going to read one of them.
01:25:23.000 I am going to read one of the classic essays shortly after we wrap up here in the audiobook.
01:25:27.000 But is there like a lot of original from you in this?
01:25:32.000 So the whole point of this is people always ask me about anarchism as if I'm an authority on the subject, haha.
01:25:32.000 No!
01:25:37.000 The slogan I have in the back is the black flag.
01:25:39.000 It comes in many colors.
01:25:40.000 This has been a long historical tradition that is swept under the rug.
01:25:44.000 There's very many variants.
01:25:45.000 There's the hardcore anarcho-communists, which in many ways are predecessors to Antifa.
01:25:49.000 There's the contemporary anarcho-capitalists, which the left-wings do not consider anarchists at all.
01:25:54.000 But this just shows alternatives to government and critiques of government from many different points of view.
01:26:00.000 Let me ask you about the political compass, right?
01:26:01.000 Sure.
01:26:02.000 People like to say that Antifa is the left-libertarian quadrant, and that Antifa... I wouldn't say left-libertarian, but left, certainly, yeah.
01:26:08.000 Right, definitely not libertarian.
01:26:10.000 People, like you just mentioned, anarcho-communists are the precursor to Antifa.
01:26:14.000 I don't believe that those who would use force to impose their will over others would be classified as libertarian or anarchist.
01:26:22.000 But they would certainly be anarchists, like the guy on the cover, Louis Ling, his essay, he was arrested by Illinois for making bombs.
01:26:28.000 And he's explicitly set up for force.
01:26:30.000 So their vision, this was their argument.
01:26:32.000 And since we're on YouTube, I'm going to be, I have to make clear this is historical stuff.
01:26:37.000 It's not something I'm endorsing people doing.
01:26:38.000 It's not something I personally believe in.
01:26:40.000 But their argument, because they came out of a communist tradition, which is not Marxist.
01:26:44.000 So I would strongly, all the people who are libertarians who read this, the one essay they love the most is by Michael Bakunin from 1867.
01:26:51.000 Bakunin was Marx's big rival.
01:26:54.000 For the international left and his essay 50 years for the Soviet Union said this is what Marxism is going to mean in practice.
01:27:00.000 This is why it's a nightmare a thousand times worse than the czar.
01:27:03.000 You guys are crazy.
01:27:04.000 You guys are evil.
01:27:05.000 This is not we're about he called it.
01:27:06.000 It's all in here.
01:27:07.000 So they were for force in this sense their argument was which again, I don't agree with that because the police and the government are tools of the wealthy.
01:27:18.000 So in that regard, perhaps I agree with you that they were the precursor to Antifa, which I view as an overtly authoritarian left movement because they attack regular people.
01:27:25.000 to use weaponry as self-defense to have this revolution to have you guys not keep bleeding
01:27:31.000 us dry. So in that regard perhaps I agree with you that they were the precursor to Antifa which
01:27:35.000 I view as an overtly authoritarian left movement because they attack regular people. Correct.
01:27:39.000 So they would not be in favor of that.
01:27:42.000 Any of the people in this book would not be in favor of that.
01:27:44.000 Right, right, right.
01:27:45.000 So I guess that's my distinction.
01:27:46.000 The modern version of the people who claim to be left libertarian are anything but.
01:27:50.000 And let me also defend these commies from a lot of these anarcho-capitalists.
01:27:54.000 Emma Goldman, who I love, was deported by Woodrow Wilson via J. Edgar Hoover during the Great War and sent to Russia.
01:28:02.000 And she goes there because the argument is when push comes to shove, these people are going to be Stalinists.
01:28:07.000 She goes to Russia She's looking around.
01:28:10.000 She's like, this is not what we're about.
01:28:11.000 This is a disaster.
01:28:12.000 She goes to Lenin's office, yells at him.
01:28:14.000 She goes, we're anarchists.
01:28:17.000 We're for free speech.
01:28:18.000 We're for the maximum freedom of the individual.
01:28:20.000 What are you guys doing?
01:28:21.000 He goes, free speech.
01:28:22.000 He told her her face.
01:28:23.000 Free speech is a bourgeois contrivance.
01:28:25.000 At the very least, you can't have it during periods of revolution.
01:28:27.000 So go home, Emma.
01:28:28.000 Her mentor, Kropotkin, was under house arrest in the Soviet Union.
01:28:32.000 She left with her partner in crime, literally crime, Alexander Berkman.
01:28:35.000 They each wrote books denouncing this.
01:28:38.000 Emma's was called My Disillusionment in Russia.
01:28:40.000 When she went to Britain, Emma Goldman, the heroine of the left.
01:28:44.000 This is as left as it gets.
01:28:46.000 She gave a speech.
01:28:47.000 She starts with a standing ovation.
01:28:49.000 She's like, guys, what's going on in the Soviet Union is a nightmare.
01:28:53.000 This is exactly what we're opposed to.
01:28:54.000 This is horrible from beginning to end.
01:28:56.000 When she was done, you could hear a pin drop because they weren't hearing it because they were more than happy.
01:29:02.000 This is going to be a big theme of my next book, to have all these Russians over there.
01:29:05.000 Let's have it be an experiment.
01:29:07.000 Listen, if it doesn't work, who cares?
01:29:09.000 It's the Russians, it's not affecting us.
01:29:11.000 And if it works, then we get to import it.
01:29:12.000 So this was really cynical, sick stuff.
01:29:16.000 And when Ayn Rand, who escaped the Soviet Union, was on Donahue in 1979, I tweet this all the time.
01:29:21.000 Donahue says to her, how are you so harsh against these people?
01:29:25.000 How are you just condemnatory?
01:29:26.000 Can't you just say you disagree?
01:29:27.000 Why do you call them so evil?
01:29:28.000 She goes, because I look at them.
01:29:30.000 Because they don't hesitate to sacrifice whole nations.
01:29:33.000 And more recently in our time, Venezuela, which you mentioned, how many people were like, hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, Venezuela, what's going on there?
01:29:41.000 And then later they weren't like, what have I, I could, I would have, I would be perfectly fine with them being like, you know what?
01:29:48.000 Just a Goldman or Berkman.
01:29:49.000 They're like, I thought this was going to be great.
01:29:51.000 And look how it turned out.
01:29:52.000 I was wrong.
01:29:53.000 And we really need to have solidarity with the people of Venezuela, especially as leftists.
01:29:56.000 We should worry about poor people.
01:29:57.000 And there's none of that.
01:29:58.000 Pin drops.
01:29:59.000 I went to Venezuela.
01:30:00.000 Stores were empty.
01:30:01.000 It was very, very difficult to buy things.
01:30:03.000 We went to a mall, if you can call it that, and it was just a bunch of empty stores and some were open.
01:30:08.000 We did go to some areas that, you know, had food.
01:30:10.000 They were wealthier areas.
01:30:11.000 Luke also went to Venezuela.
01:30:12.000 Someone was literally shot and killed as soon as I landed at the airport.
01:30:16.000 At the airport?
01:30:18.000 The airport is one of the most dangerous places you could be in Caracas, Venezuela.
01:30:18.000 At the airport.
01:30:21.000 Why is that?
01:30:22.000 That's where all the major robberies and crimes happen.
01:30:25.000 And an Egyptian guy was literally just a couple minutes in front of me, leaving the airport.
01:30:30.000 Some guys tried to mug him.
01:30:31.000 They shot it.
01:30:31.000 He resisted.
01:30:32.000 I heard the shot as I was going through customs.
01:30:34.000 That's how crazy Venezuela is.
01:30:36.000 Luke posted a bunch of videos of these markets that were just barren.
01:30:40.000 But there were leftists, American leftists, who went to Venezuela and went to the Potemkin markets and filmed all the glory of all their products saying, you how great it was the Chavista areas right the the
01:30:51.000 communist friendly areas that that were of course friendly with the regime this is
01:30:55.000 what people don't realize sorry when you go to these countries the government
01:30:58.000 runs everything they also are perfectly happy this happened the 90s North
01:31:02.000 Korea and many other places they're like okay we've got enough food for
01:31:06.000 500 people We've got 2,000 people.
01:31:08.000 Who's going to get the food?
01:31:09.000 They're not going to say we're going to do it equally.
01:31:11.000 They're going to take care of their own first, and in a way you can't blame them.
01:31:13.000 Because if they don't take care of their own, they're going to lose their hold on power and therefore not continue the revolution.
01:31:17.000 So from their perspective, they don't have a choice.
01:31:19.000 It's horrifying.
01:31:20.000 And again, what we talked about earlier, Americans have no clue what this is like, but my next book's going to change.
01:31:27.000 Are there ways to dissolve monarchy that aren't violent?
01:31:30.000 Well, yeah, they could abdicate.
01:31:31.000 Decentralize.
01:31:32.000 Every problem we see comes from centralization, comes from big governments, comes from people saying that they're going to fix everyone's problems, and that's impossible.
01:31:40.000 We have to realize and wake up as a people and understand that one person shouldn't be responsible for everyone else, and we should all be responsible for ourselves.
01:31:48.000 personal responsibility yes yep or call your friend hire someone it doesn't you know like people like oh an anarchist society you'd be the first one shot i'm like why don't i have the ability to call in my big mma friends to be like hey can you uh be my housemate but hold on hold on if the idea was that Criminal punishment deters crimes.
01:32:09.000 Why do we still have crimes?
01:32:10.000 Right.
01:32:11.000 We've got very harsh problems.
01:32:12.000 We got what was it like a quarter of the world's present population is here in the US?
01:32:15.000 It's uncountable.
01:32:16.000 There were several studies that the death penalty was not a deterrent for people committing extreme crimes.
01:32:21.000 I look at it this way when it comes to like gun rights specifically.
01:32:25.000 I sometimes cross busy streets.
01:32:27.000 Cars don't hit me.
01:32:28.000 They have brakes.
01:32:28.000 You know why?
01:32:29.000 Surprise, surprise.
01:32:30.000 The individuals driving those cars don't want to kill somebody.
01:32:33.000 Right.
01:32:33.000 It's not because of the law.
01:32:35.000 It's because they don't It's when people get desperate is when they change.
01:32:36.000 And also let's be completely sociopathic about it.
01:32:39.000 They don't want the headache from damaging their car.
01:32:41.000 So even if they don't value your life, there's still going to be a cost for
01:32:44.000 them in terms of like, why do I, I'd rather the break than having a day of
01:32:47.000 having to deal with this blood.
01:32:48.000 It's let's let's uh, it's when people get desperate is when they change.
01:32:51.000 No one really wants to hurt until they're starving and they need food.
01:32:55.000 Everything's in their way.
01:32:56.000 There's a lot of evil people out there who get off on hurting like children.
01:33:00.000 A lot of sociopaths.
01:33:01.000 Most of them are in Washington DC per capita, the most largest amount.
01:33:05.000 This is why my new political ideology is called Marsism.
01:33:08.000 And it's where we take Elon Musk's starship.
01:33:11.000 Whenever someone, we take all of Congress and all the politicians, they go in the ship and then it blasts off.
01:33:17.000 Then what?
01:33:18.000 What do you mean?
01:33:20.000 I've asked too much.
01:33:22.000 He just told you!
01:33:23.000 That's it!
01:33:24.000 It's gone!
01:33:25.000 I like this.
01:33:27.000 I just watched Elysium.
01:33:28.000 You know what happens next?
01:33:30.000 We all live happily ever after!
01:33:31.000 Applause!
01:33:33.000 And then what we do is, whenever someone wins a position in office, we have smaller rockets and they blast off.
01:33:40.000 Congratulations!
01:33:40.000 So you won!
01:33:41.000 Right this way, sir.
01:33:43.000 Adios!
01:33:44.000 Let's go to Super Chat.
01:33:45.000 To serve government.
01:33:46.000 Oh, wow.
01:33:47.000 I was going to bring up Tehran, but we have chats.
01:33:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33:52.000 That's what's up.
01:33:53.000 Where they ban politicians in a Mexican city with 30,000 people.
01:33:56.000 They ban politicians, political slogans, political signs, and people deal with their problems
01:34:01.000 through a community, one-on-one basis, and it's one of the largest anarchist places in the world, Tehran, Mexico.
01:34:07.000 I did a full documentary on it on my YouTube channel, We Are Change, and it's worth a watch
01:34:10.000 because the ideas expressed there have been carried out with large populations in a peaceful, cohesive way
01:34:16.000 with people taking personal responsibility for themselves and standing up to the government.
01:34:20.000 to government, to the cartels, and to the police officers that were all corrupted
01:34:24.000 and doing horrible things to the community and now they're living in peace where literally
01:34:28.000 homicides down completely, murders stopped completely, kidnapping stopped completely,
01:34:34.000 all because people decided to take their life into their own personal hands.
01:34:37.000 Can I give you some unsolicited advice? Yeah.
01:34:39.000 For you and everybody else, if you're doing something like this, get a URL.
01:34:44.000 That would be easy to remember.
01:34:45.000 So instead of going to WeAreChanged, you just go to, like, IranianDocumentary.com, they go straight to it.
01:34:48.000 So that's a cheap, easy way to promote stuff.
01:34:51.000 I'm a really big proponent of that.
01:34:52.000 All of our sponsors, we do that.
01:34:53.000 Yeah.
01:34:54.000 Number two is...
01:34:55.000 I don't think people, like the ANCOMs, they get something, a lot of stuff right, because human beings are not Lord of the Flies, despite what we're told in Hobbesian.
01:35:03.000 When you look at Survivor, the only reason these people are fighting is because they have to vote each other out.
01:35:07.000 When people tend to be in communities, for the most part, which is like 90%, which is a huge percentage, they really don't want headaches.
01:35:14.000 They don't want conflict.
01:35:15.000 They just want to get along.
01:35:16.000 And like, sometimes like, okay, my neighbor's noisy.
01:35:18.000 Am I really going to call the cops?
01:35:20.000 Even Judge Judy berated One of the plaintiffs or defendants, she goes, she's like, I'm 900 years old.
01:35:27.000 I've had lots of neighbors.
01:35:28.000 Some I like, some I don't like.
01:35:29.000 Some are annoying, some are not annoying, whatever.
01:35:32.000 I've never called the cops on any of them.
01:35:33.000 Because when you're dealing in a community, anyone who lives in a city, you have to give yourself some little sacrifices.
01:35:38.000 So I think people don't appreciate to what extent cooperation is the norm.
01:35:44.000 Like you see a kid, it's just kind of, it's just taken for granted.
01:35:48.000 Let's go to Super Chats.
01:35:49.000 The problem is you say 90%.
01:35:52.000 Yes, correct.
01:35:53.000 10% doesn't scale properly because if you have 100,000 people, that's 10,000 crazies.
01:35:57.000 And you need law enforcement, in my opinion.
01:36:00.000 Well, you need security.
01:36:01.000 And we need Super Chats.
01:36:03.000 You are right about it.
01:36:03.000 So if you haven't already, smash the like button, go to TimCats.com, become a member.
01:36:09.000 I wouldn't say ratings.
01:36:09.000 More viewers.
01:36:10.000 Ratings is a Nielsen thing.
01:36:11.000 Why give Nielsen the credit?
01:36:11.000 people with your support and subscribe to this channel if you haven't already
01:36:15.000 share the show with your friends so that I just think is it wrong for me to say
01:36:19.000 that we deserve more ratings than CNN I wouldn't say ratings more viewers more
01:36:23.000 viewers ratings is a Nielsen thing why do we Nielsen the credit yeah well you
01:36:26.000 know what I mean I don't know I think you I don't say deserve earned do you
01:36:30.000 what I mean is CNN gets propped up by YouTube They get put on the front page.
01:36:33.000 Well, they're not in airports anymore.
01:36:36.000 They just are given this.
01:36:37.000 I think we should have more people watching us than watching them.
01:36:41.000 And other channels as well.
01:36:42.000 I think the vibe here is a lot more entertaining.
01:36:45.000 So, if you agree with Michael, it's entertaining.
01:36:47.000 Share the show with your friends.
01:36:49.000 Alright, let's read some of these superchats.
01:36:50.000 No one watching this show has friends.
01:36:52.000 Who are you fooling?
01:36:53.000 That's a good point.
01:36:54.000 Who are you fooling?
01:36:56.000 Alright, Scott Beach says, Mr. Malice, I bought all your books, belong to your locals community, and my only real interaction with you is on Twitter and is your polls, but you blocked me on Twitter.
01:37:05.000 Why?
01:37:07.000 I don't know who you are, but I have no idea!
01:37:09.000 You don't know Scott Beach?
01:37:11.000 I don't, what's his username?
01:37:13.000 I'm assuming it's Scott Beach, I don't know.
01:37:14.000 I don't know why I blocked you, Scott.
01:37:16.000 Scott, if you're in my locals, I will unblock you.
01:37:18.000 If you go to malice.locals.com and support me, I'll unblock you.
01:37:18.000 There you go.
01:37:20.000 Sometimes it happens accidentally too, people don't realize it.
01:37:22.000 What, you've never accidentally hit the block button?
01:37:22.000 No, it doesn't.
01:37:24.000 You have to confirm it, don't you?
01:37:24.000 No.
01:37:26.000 I don't think you have to, but it's like, you have to go with their profile, then you have to hit block, then you have to, yes, yeah, you're correct, yeah.
01:37:30.000 Oh, okay.
01:37:30.000 Well, there you go.
01:37:31.000 You'd have to confirm that.
01:37:32.000 So you purposefully shot out one of your biggest fans.
01:37:33.000 I get it, Michael.
01:37:34.000 I would say he's one of my biggest fans, right?
01:37:35.000 I know his name.
01:37:38.000 All right.
01:37:39.000 And I'll tell you why I blocked you two.
01:37:41.000 Wait, there's another comment that's identical.
01:37:44.000 Here they come.
01:37:45.000 I love that they're super chatting us this.
01:37:47.000 This is amazing.
01:37:48.000 The Michael Angelou, literally the same thing he said.
01:37:50.000 What's his name?
01:37:51.000 The Michael Angelou.
01:37:53.000 Is he on Locals, too?
01:37:54.000 And he said the exact same thing.
01:37:55.000 I bought all your books, belong to your Locals community, blah blah blah, and you blocked me on Twitter.
01:37:58.000 Is it the same guy?
01:37:58.000 Is it verbatim the same?
01:37:59.000 Is it copy-paste?
01:38:00.000 It's copy and paste, but it's a different person.
01:38:02.000 I think that's multiple accounts.
01:38:04.000 I see that sometimes in the chat.
01:38:07.000 Verbatim?
01:38:07.000 There's two superchats that are verbatim the same.
01:38:10.000 Okay, I'll look into it on my Locals.
01:38:13.000 Just reply to the Elizabeth Spires thread.
01:38:16.000 Novum says 354 more federal holidays and we'll meet the end goal.
01:38:19.000 Malice, you've changed my life for the better.
01:38:21.000 I have never had so much personal responsibility as I have now.
01:38:24.000 Here's the other thing that's amazing, like a federal holiday is just a lockdown.
01:38:29.000 It's just making it illegal for you to go to work if you have certain jobs.
01:38:33.000 Yeah.
01:38:33.000 No.
01:38:34.000 Comfortably Smug, who has a Twitter account I absolutely love, he's like, how could someone be against this holiday celebrating black achievement?
01:38:43.000 Juneteenth, they just made a federal holiday.
01:38:44.000 Because all a federal holiday is, is it's illegal for you to go to work.
01:38:48.000 Only in the government, right?
01:38:50.000 But the banks!
01:38:51.000 Well, the banks choose to do it.
01:38:53.000 I don't know, they don't.
01:38:54.000 If you're a bank, I think you have to be closed by federal holiday, if I'm not mistaken.
01:38:58.000 Please double-check this.
01:38:59.000 I got an issue with Juneteenth, the name.
01:39:02.000 It should be called like, what do they call it, Abolition Day or like...
01:39:06.000 What do they call it when they freed the slaves on that day, right?
01:39:09.000 Well, so, arguably the slaves were freed with the Emancipation Proclamation.
01:39:14.000 Emancipation Day.
01:39:15.000 That's not June 19th.
01:39:17.000 There was still active civil war.
01:39:18.000 It wasn't until the North actually went into Texas and enforced the law long after the war was over, when people were still illegally holding slaves, the last slave was freed was this day celebrated.
01:39:30.000 Okay.
01:39:31.000 I like it.
01:39:33.000 I saw, I think it was, was it Charlie Kirk?
01:39:36.000 Who tweeted that it was wrong because it was a race-based holiday or whatever.
01:39:39.000 My attitude is like, we have Independence Day where we had this ideological revolution where we severed ourselves from the monarchy.
01:39:44.000 What about Labor Day?
01:39:45.000 It's just a class holiday.
01:39:46.000 Martin Luther King Day.
01:39:47.000 Martin Luther King Day was originally called Black People's Day.
01:39:49.000 Oh wow.
01:39:49.000 Did you not know this yet?
01:39:50.000 No.
01:39:51.000 So the Independence Day for us was when we had this ideological revolution and physical revolution of sorts.
01:39:56.000 And we severed ourselves from monarchy.
01:39:59.000 We realized that divine providence wasn't what makes law.
01:40:02.000 And then 80 or so years later, we had another ideological revolution that you cannot hold people as property.
01:40:09.000 And much blood was shed for this.
01:40:12.000 It's an Independence Day.
01:40:12.000 I love it.
01:40:14.000 It's a major step forward for freedom in America.
01:40:17.000 So in terms of like, it's better than a tree.
01:40:22.000 If you ask me which of these is a more important holiday, it's going to be a no-brainer.
01:40:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:40:27.000 All right.
01:40:28.000 Metal Retro Duchess says, Luke, you should make a t-shirt that says, fortified elections have consequences.
01:40:34.000 That seems like a very safe term.
01:40:35.000 That's a pretty good one, actually.
01:40:36.000 It's pretty good.
01:40:37.000 Fortified.
01:40:38.000 I like that.
01:40:39.000 We have someone joining soon, so we're going to expand our merch and we're going to do merch like new different shirts and memes and stuff.
01:40:44.000 I'm so excited.
01:40:45.000 Yeah, we got a lot of people joining.
01:40:47.000 We're going to be really big, really, really fast.
01:40:50.000 We just got one of the best 3D printers on the market.
01:40:53.000 We're going to be making stuff.
01:40:54.000 We're going to be doing, for the guests that are interested, portraits that we'll auction off to fans.
01:40:59.000 Are they going to be caricatures?
01:41:02.000 I guess they could be.
01:41:03.000 Are they?
01:41:04.000 I don't want a caricature.
01:41:05.000 No, they're meant to be regular portraits of people on the show, hand-drawn.
01:41:09.000 Like someone will have someone draw the guest.
01:41:11.000 With painting or like a pencil?
01:41:13.000 Like a digital painting.
01:41:14.000 Oh, that sounds awesome.
01:41:15.000 And then we print it out, have it signed, and then we auction it off like one of a kind.
01:41:19.000 Oh, I like this.
01:41:20.000 We want to do a bunch of things to expand culture, to create symbols.
01:41:23.000 So I'll try to be quick with this.
01:41:25.000 I went to a lecture on music business 15 years ago, and this guy was explaining the business of music is not about the song.
01:41:34.000 It's about the memories that you create.
01:41:36.000 Yes.
01:41:36.000 And he said, here's one thing that we did.
01:41:39.000 We had a big set drop, which is a gigantic flag that was checkered.
01:41:43.000 And after the show, we cut every checkered piece out and sold those to the fans.
01:41:47.000 That way they would always retain a piece that would remind them every time they looked at it.
01:41:52.000 What you need to understand about merchandise is not that someone is going to be wearing a shirt, not that they're advertising your band, but that every time they open their closet, they remember that moment they shared with you.
01:42:03.000 We need that.
01:42:04.000 We need people to remember the conversations, remember how they felt about them, and own something.
01:42:08.000 When they see that portrait of Michael Malice, autographed, and maybe we'll do like prints, but we'll do one autographed one.
01:42:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:42:13.000 People will have this really cool picture, and then their friends will say, what's this?
01:42:16.000 Oh, it's this guy, Michael Malice, got a great book, you gotta read it.
01:42:18.000 It generates the conversation.
01:42:20.000 It keeps it insight in mind.
01:42:22.000 This is why I don't have a blanket, but I covered myself with AIDS quilt, to remember all the people who died so young tragically in the 80s.
01:42:28.000 Right on.
01:42:29.000 All right, let's read some more.
01:42:32.000 Eric Miller says, I trolled the King of Trolls live using his own words against him as he was dressed as Superman who gets weak with rocks from his own planet on April Fool's Day.
01:42:41.000 It was worth Gitmo, good sir.
01:42:43.000 My respects.
01:42:44.000 I love it when people create their own little backstories.
01:42:47.000 Hashtag that happened.
01:42:49.000 And everyone clapped.
01:42:49.000 That's right.
01:42:51.000 All right.
01:42:51.000 Superman, if he wasn't scared of green rocks, says, Tim, she hasn't gotten the monkey yet.
01:42:55.000 She was halfway there and another monkey had diarrhea.
01:42:59.000 So now she has to wait a week.
01:43:00.000 Michael, there is still time.
01:43:02.000 Cassandra, I love you.
01:43:04.000 I'm in love with you.
01:43:05.000 You know this.
01:43:06.000 Listen, I know I can sit down and talk about animals for literally days.
01:43:12.000 Let's come up with a better exotic like sugar glider.
01:43:14.000 Yes, those are possums that you could that like to be in your pocket.
01:43:18.000 They're adorable.
01:43:19.000 They're monkey shaped in size.
01:43:21.000 They're in and they smell nice because they only eat fruit.
01:43:23.000 There's the males have a bald spot they rub it on things that make it smell like banana they're amazing pets it's so much better and their lifespan is shorter there's and they have little hands where their fingers are stuck together because they try to climb things there's so much and you could throw them like a ball because they glide so you throw it to your daughter you throw it back and they float yes they glide they glide look it up sugar gliders Not only is it going to be a tenth the price, it's going to be pleasure instead of headache as the monkey bites your beautiful child.
01:43:52.000 The marmoset would do that?
01:43:53.000 Yes, they're nasty!
01:43:56.000 I'm so ready for this.
01:43:56.000 Hmm.
01:43:58.000 I want a sugar glider now.
01:43:59.000 They're great.
01:44:00.000 They're domesticated.
01:44:01.000 Why not a dog?
01:44:02.000 We'll have to call Cassandra afterwards.
01:44:03.000 That's too basic.
01:44:04.000 Yeah, I can understand she wants something weird.
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:07.000 All right.
01:44:08.000 Stalin Cepedas says, Hi, Tim.
01:44:12.000 I love your show.
01:44:13.000 You need to defeat CNN.
01:44:14.000 Telemundo and Univision are worse than CNN.
01:44:17.000 Greetings from Dominican Republic.
01:44:18.000 Ian, you are awesome.
01:44:19.000 Well, they're worse because when they talk about COVID at the very beginning, they have the upside down exclamation point.
01:44:24.000 So it really gets scary.
01:44:26.000 Oh yeah, yeah, Spanish.
01:44:29.000 Alright, Jayrich says, holy crap, how did you guys manage to get the Cash Cab Guy on?
01:44:33.000 Best episode ever!
01:44:35.000 Knock knock, I'm a gorilla, just kidding, though Michael is awesome, can't wait for his show.
01:44:39.000 Yeah, you were on Cash Cab.
01:44:40.000 I was!
01:44:41.000 Did you win?
01:44:42.000 What do you think?
01:44:43.000 All I do is win, baby!
01:44:45.000 I sent you the video, it was pretty entertaining, yeah.
01:44:48.000 What's the driver's name?
01:44:50.000 Ben Bailey.
01:44:50.000 Yeah, was he shocked how smart you were?
01:44:52.000 Oh, you want the Cash Cab story?
01:44:54.000 Yeah.
01:44:55.000 When someone is trapped in a situation with me, I'm going to do whatever I can to get them to break.
01:45:02.000 So I was messing with him the entire time.
01:45:07.000 I was just talking about, like, how'd you get on Cash Cab?
01:45:08.000 I'm like, I got my knee pads and met the producers.
01:45:10.000 Like, just really things.
01:45:12.000 And I'm like, what are they going to edit in and what are they going to edit out?
01:45:15.000 And the very last thing was double or nothing, right?
01:45:18.000 It's like a video bonus round.
01:45:19.000 And at that point, we had two out of the three strikes.
01:45:22.000 And your adrenaline is through the roof.
01:45:23.000 And you're like, I just want this to be done.
01:45:25.000 Because if you get the three strikes, you lose all of it.
01:45:27.000 So like, I just want to get to my location, get the money.
01:45:29.000 And then he's like, you know, we have this thing called double nothing.
01:45:31.000 Okay, we're just gonna take the money.
01:45:33.000 And he goes, can you just sit and pretend that you're thinking about it for a second?
01:45:38.000 And we taped it again.
01:45:40.000 As soon as I left the cash cab, they give you fake money.
01:45:42.000 They really give you a check later.
01:45:44.000 And I turned to the cab, they go, what are you going to do with the money?
01:45:46.000 I go, this is all going up my nose.
01:45:47.000 Because I saw something behind the music about Aerosmith or Motley Crue.
01:45:50.000 They're like, what are you doing with your money?
01:45:52.000 They go, it's all up my nose.
01:45:53.000 That got cut.
01:45:56.000 So he was not having a good day with me as literally the backseat driver just clowning him the whole time.
01:46:03.000 I'm a horrible person.
01:46:05.000 We enjoy your presence.
01:46:05.000 And I love it.
01:46:07.000 All right, let's see.
01:46:07.000 I know.
01:46:11.000 Josh Shepard says, does Timcast have a tip line slash contact for news or stories?
01:46:14.000 Just the tip.
01:46:15.000 Just the tip.
01:46:17.000 I live just outside of Portland asking for a friend.
01:46:19.000 We don't right now.
01:46:20.000 That's a good idea.
01:46:21.000 We'll make one for now.
01:46:22.000 Pitches at timcast.com is a good way to do it.
01:46:24.000 Just buy tipcast.com.
01:46:26.000 Tipcast.
01:46:27.000 Yeah.
01:46:28.000 Someone's buying it right now.
01:46:28.000 Get it quick.
01:46:30.000 You just told people to buy it.
01:46:31.000 Dude, just the tip at timcast.com.
01:46:31.000 They bought it.
01:46:34.000 I think that's actually a good idea for a tip line.
01:46:37.000 Although I don't know if people would take it seriously.
01:46:40.000 All right.
01:46:41.000 The one free man says anything successful is racist.
01:46:44.000 They don't want you to be successful.
01:46:45.000 Or global warming.
01:46:47.000 They alternate.
01:46:47.000 Those are the two.
01:46:48.000 Also, the state labels patriots as terrorists because the one enemy of a patriot is a corrupt tyrannical government.
01:46:48.000 Yes.
01:46:54.000 Well, the Founding Fathers were terrorists.
01:46:56.000 They were all revolutionaries.
01:46:58.000 Literally.
01:46:59.000 That's what King George called them.
01:47:00.000 Don't tell the Back the Blue crowd what they did.
01:47:03.000 Okay, I can't read... Or the Ayn Rand crowd.
01:47:05.000 Yeah.
01:47:06.000 I can't read Cyrillic, but they say... We can't.
01:47:09.000 You can't.
01:47:09.000 I can.
01:47:10.000 Can you?
01:47:11.000 I can, but very poorly.
01:47:12.000 It says, like, it's like an... I can't even describe what the letters are.
01:47:15.000 Backwards R, probably.
01:47:17.000 It's a backwards A. E, backwards A, R, E, H. I can't.
01:47:21.000 Two backwards Ns.
01:47:21.000 There's no way to spell that.
01:47:22.000 Okay.
01:47:23.000 Two backwards Ns.
01:47:25.000 I do understand that eating eggs fresh from the chicken's butt is just eating cicadas with a few extra steps, don't you?
01:47:31.000 Yeah, asking me?
01:47:32.000 No, no, I think they're just saying it.
01:47:34.000 Go back to Russia.
01:47:35.000 So I tweeted... With your cicada food.
01:47:37.000 I tweeted yesterday I had eggs fresh from the chicken's butt, and today I had a tomato fresh off the vine.
01:47:43.000 City folk be missing out.
01:47:44.000 Yeah.
01:47:45.000 So that's what that's in reference to.
01:47:46.000 Yeah, we definitely don't have eggs and tomatoes in the cities.
01:47:49.000 Look, look, look.
01:47:50.000 I have a filtration system for cicadas, okay?
01:47:53.000 I'm not gonna eat a cicada.
01:47:54.000 I filter it through the chicken, and the chicken turns it into an egg, and then I cook the egg with some chili powder and some peppers, and it's delicious.
01:48:02.000 This is being made into one of those videos where they edit everything and make us have funny reactions.
01:48:06.000 Right now.
01:48:07.000 That little clip.
01:48:08.000 What's his name?
01:48:09.000 Pink Trip?
01:48:09.000 He's doing that right now.
01:48:10.000 I hope so.
01:48:12.000 Uh, yeah, we got chickens.
01:48:13.000 Only one lays eggs because she was a rehome.
01:48:14.000 The other ones, the, they're, turns out, uh, the, we thought it was a transgender, uh, uh, chicken.
01:48:19.000 It turns out to actually just been a rooster who was assigned female at birth, and that was an error on the part of the hatchery.
01:48:24.000 So now, he's got, like, they're getting older.
01:48:28.000 And the rooster has, like, his favorite girls.
01:48:29.000 They're, like, the bigger ones, I guess.
01:48:31.000 That's what he's into.
01:48:32.000 And then they all... It is!
01:48:34.000 I don't know if he's gonna do a chicken or whatever.
01:48:37.000 But he'll walk over and lay down.
01:48:39.000 And then, like, his two favorite girls come and lay with him.
01:48:41.000 And then the other girls run up and they lay on the outside.
01:48:43.000 And the one rehome just stands in the corner with its wings out going...
01:48:47.000 Like, just freaking out.
01:48:48.000 Life is really good when you have a favorite girl.
01:48:50.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:48:52.000 Alright, let's see.
01:48:53.000 Also very happy that Luke is back.
01:48:54.000 I've been a longtime supporter of both you and Malice. Love it when the dear leader is on Timcast.
01:48:59.000 Also very happy that Luke is back. Don't you guys ever get tired of winning?
01:48:59.000 Dear writer.
01:49:03.000 Uh, sometimes.
01:49:05.000 I'll let you know when that happens.
01:49:06.000 Sometimes.
01:49:07.000 Try to make it as challenging as possible.
01:49:10.000 So it's rewarding, you know?
01:49:11.000 You know, I've been... Let me just put it this way, in response to winning all the time.
01:49:17.000 It's not that I'm winning all the time, it's that I don't really view winning and losing as different things.
01:49:22.000 So, like, when I skate, for instance, and I fall, I don't look at it like I failed.
01:49:27.000 It's just the same exact thing to me, but landing it is like reaching the goal.
01:49:33.000 You know, I guess I kind of view it like everything we do, whether it works or doesn't work, is just a part of the process.
01:49:37.000 Can I also thank the audience from the bottom of my heart?
01:49:40.000 It's really kind of very sick and by design, I would guess, that urban media elites make it a point that if you're trying to express kindness or gratitude, that they have to have some sneer or that it's somehow inferior to complaints.
01:49:58.000 I'm in a different position as an author, because I can't tell you—I can, this is gonna be under 10—how many book projects I had that failed, because you write the proposal, I have a very big-shot agent, he shops it around to this, like, seven houses, and if none of the editors want it, that book proposal is dead.
01:50:15.000 Now, because of this, Anarchist Handbook and other books, I don't need to get that editor's approval.
01:50:21.000 I could put this out.
01:50:22.000 Maybe it sells crap, but it still exists.
01:50:25.000 I've still, from concept to execution.
01:50:27.000 So that is a major thing that's happened only in the last five years.
01:50:30.000 Right on.
01:50:32.000 All right.
01:50:32.000 So thank you.
01:50:34.000 In the, the super chat says, in the greater Seattle area, there's been a lot of military aircraft and helicopters.
01:50:39.000 It may just be a reserve weekend, but I'm way more aware of it.
01:50:43.000 Interesting.
01:50:45.000 I see what's going on with Russia and China, and I'm pessimistic in the short term.
01:50:50.000 Optimistic in the long term.
01:50:51.000 But I think, you know, were you the one who was bearish on fourth-turning stuff and Thucydides' trap, or...?
01:50:56.000 Oh, I heard it's Thucydides, is how you pronounce his name.
01:50:59.000 Thucydides?
01:50:59.000 Thucydides, isn't it?
01:51:00.000 I think it's Thucydides in Greek.
01:51:01.000 Oh, interesting.
01:51:02.000 That makes sense, because they don't have the C sound.
01:51:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound, yeah.
01:51:04.000 Thucydides.
01:51:05.000 That wasn't me that you're referring to.
01:51:07.000 You don't like the fourth-turning.
01:51:08.000 I don't know what that is.
01:51:09.000 It's the Strauss-Howe generational theory.
01:51:11.000 Oh, I don't like that stuff.
01:51:12.000 I hate that stuff.
01:51:14.000 Yeah.
01:51:14.000 It seems to astrology to me.
01:51:17.000 All right.
01:51:17.000 Mr. Hunt first name Michael says illegal immigrants pouring over the border political prisoners in solitary confinement
01:51:24.000 China is ramping up for war with the US. Why aren't we trying harder?
01:51:27.000 Why can't you and other news guys start a movement for secession?
01:51:31.000 I don't think secession would help us in a war with China It would make everything worse.
01:51:35.000 Well, first of all, you guys.
01:51:37.000 Who is this guy's name?
01:51:39.000 His last name is Hunt and his first name is Mike.
01:51:41.000 OK, listen, Mr. Hunt, if that is your real name.
01:51:43.000 Something tells me it's not.
01:51:46.000 In 2015, I was the one who wrote the article about it's time to disunite the states.
01:51:50.000 I was the first one calling for the secession stuff.
01:51:53.000 Jesse Kelly was second.
01:51:54.000 So please don't point fingers when you're talking about it.
01:51:58.000 Yeah, and I was with the idea, not even knowing that you were even talking about it.
01:52:02.000 The first time I went on the show, it was the first idea I brought up.
01:52:04.000 I was like, we need a peaceful divorce because it makes sense to avoid a lot of the bigger drama and fighting that is going to happen and is going to be ugly.
01:52:13.000 I have been saying this for 10 years.
01:52:15.000 The entire time I've been following politics.
01:52:16.000 Yeah, but no one listens to a woman in politics.
01:52:18.000 Come on now, let's have some sense.
01:52:19.000 It's about time we start, I think so, right?
01:52:21.000 I agree.
01:52:22.000 And that woman's name is Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:52:24.000 Well, she wants to abolish the ATF.
01:52:26.000 I know, I know, it's great.
01:52:28.000 I just want to abolish ATF agents.
01:52:31.000 Alright, uh, Dilly Dilly says, Thank you, Luke, for addressing Canadian Gestapo-style police.
01:52:35.000 Not enough discussion about it up here.
01:52:37.000 Luke, please don't leave right away.
01:52:39.000 But!
01:52:39.000 Someone followed up immediately, uh... Luke, please leave right away.
01:52:43.000 And Erican says, To everyone that's begging Luke to stay, y'all do know he has his own channel, right?
01:52:47.000 And it's pretty damn good.
01:52:48.000 It's called We Are Change.
01:52:50.000 I'm very close to 700,000 YouTube subscribers.
01:52:52.000 Is that true?
01:52:52.000 Yeah.
01:52:53.000 That's amazing.
01:52:53.000 It's amazing, especially with me confronting the head of Alphabet before at Bilderberg and pissing him off and chasing him down the street.
01:53:00.000 So I'm very lucky and very blessed and I can't thank you guys enough for being a part of it and making me better by constantly criticizing me correctly.
01:53:10.000 You do amazing work.
01:53:12.000 This is for you, Michael.
01:53:14.000 Stoker Roylott says, Tim and company, love your show.
01:53:16.000 I've had a monkey as a pet worst decision I've ever made.
01:53:20.000 The only thing the monkey did was constantly, continuously, through an unrelenting, never-ending stream of excrement at me.
01:53:27.000 Bad time in my life.
01:53:29.000 I don't think marmosets do that though.
01:53:30.000 Yes they do.
01:53:32.000 Why would marmosets be different?
01:53:33.000 I feel like that's a monkey.
01:53:35.000 They're just small monkeys.
01:53:37.000 I gotta tell you a story.
01:53:39.000 They have macaques in Brazil, right?
01:53:40.000 Is that what it is?
01:53:41.000 Yeah.
01:53:41.000 I was in Rio, and we were walking down the street when I got hit by something.
01:53:46.000 And I turned around, like, what happened?
01:53:47.000 And the guy was like, he's okay, he's just a monkey.
01:53:50.000 Or I think he said macaque.
01:53:51.000 And I was like...
01:53:53.000 I got hit by something and he said it's just a it's just a macaque and then I I didn't know what it meant I didn't think he said he hit me with yeah yeah yeah you know and then he was like look up there and then I look and there was a little monkey on top of like a bus like seating thing and it was like looking at us and it yelled and it threw something at me again it was just the most hilarious thing I've ever seen They're all over Rio, I guess they just run around and do their thing, you know.
01:54:16.000 But if you look at a monkey's energy, they're very frenetic.
01:54:19.000 They're always looking around, they're bouncing around.
01:54:20.000 It's not something that should be in this small space that you would give, like, let's suppose a sugar glider or something else that's cool.
01:54:26.000 Yeah, they need to swing through trees.
01:54:28.000 And they're smart enough to know, you're the one keeping me prisoner here.
01:54:30.000 Yeah, I experienced them in Thailand and in India, and in both times, they're gangster and they're trouble.
01:54:37.000 Yes.
01:54:38.000 All right.
01:54:39.000 Let's see.
01:54:40.000 Legama Fagion says, I met an anti-Trump leftist with a cast still on their arm from being pulled from the path of the car in Charlottesville by a right-wing militiaman who saved them.
01:54:52.000 They fully debunked the good people on both sides hoax.
01:54:55.000 Can I email you their name and YouTube?
01:54:57.000 This person is a patriot.
01:54:58.000 Interesting.
01:54:59.000 Pitches at TimCast.com.
01:55:04.000 All right, Christopher says, Tim, your ignorance to the law is amazing sometimes.
01:55:08.000 If a crime is committed with a gun, they never give the guns back.
01:55:13.000 Yeah, but it's not necessarily a crime of the gun that they're being charged with, right?
01:55:18.000 Well, my point is, if he won and didn't plead guilty, then it wasn't a crime.
01:55:22.000 Then they'd get his guns back.
01:55:23.000 How could you be like, well, you know, you're not guilty of committing a crime, but we're going to take it because it was a crime.
01:55:28.000 But sometimes they do that, like drug stuff.
01:55:30.000 Like if you're not convicted, they still keep the stuff.
01:55:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:33.000 So we don't know how the law works.
01:55:34.000 Evil state stuff, man.
01:55:35.000 Yeah.
01:55:35.000 All right.
01:55:36.000 Or they could be like, we lost it.
01:55:38.000 Boogaloo Boy says, RIP Duncan Lemp.
01:55:46.000 Time to raise the black flag is near.
01:55:49.000 Stay safe and stay deadly.
01:55:50.000 Who is Duncan?
01:55:51.000 That story deserves a lot more attention.
01:55:54.000 It was a no-knock raid in the middle of the night in Maryland from a police department, SWAT department in Maryland that's known for having many controversial no-knock raids.
01:56:03.000 And as you were describing, a man was shot when he was sleeping.
01:56:08.000 Through the window!
01:56:09.000 His pregnant girlfriend was ripped away through glass.
01:56:13.000 And no one really talks about the story, but this is a huge story.
01:56:17.000 And they're refusing to release the body cam footage.
01:56:19.000 Yeah.
01:56:20.000 Still.
01:56:21.000 And none of the cops are going to be charged, and he's dead.
01:56:24.000 And here's the thing.
01:56:24.000 Yeah.
01:56:25.000 Here's the thing.
01:56:26.000 Let's steel man this argument.
01:56:28.000 Let's pretend, because the argument was he got a tip he's got like a red flag gun law.
01:56:32.000 You got a guy who's got an illegal and he's like let's place he's like a really evil person who's killed kids before whatever just let's let's make him as worse possible who shouldn't have these guns you know he's armed you know there's a girl in there and he was with his parents I believe you know there's people there You stake out that house, you wait until he leaves to go to 7-Eleven, you knock on the door where mom or the girlfriend go, here's our warrant, get the F out of our way, we're gonna search this house from attic to basement, we're gonna tear apart the furniture, but you get to be alive and you go stand in the corner.
01:57:03.000 Everyone Including the gun people would be like if you have to have
01:57:07.000 to choose between these two scenarios I'm choosing this one the idea of a no knock. I said this
01:57:12.000 line on Glenn Beckett. I'll say it again I'll say it till I'm dead in the face even Stalin had the
01:57:16.000 courtesy to knock You laugh but think about it. Yeah, even the KGB Germany
01:57:21.000 you're at night. You're You're terrified because, oh my God, it's two in the morning.
01:57:26.000 They're coming to take us to the gulag.
01:57:28.000 The fact that you could shoot guns blazing for an American who might have guns, it's not like he has some... Look, if he had a kid hostage, if this is an imminent terror threat, I can wrap my head around it very, very easily.
01:57:42.000 What was their claim against him?
01:57:43.000 That he had guns that he shouldn't have.
01:57:44.000 He has a red flag law.
01:57:45.000 Yeah.
01:57:45.000 Wow.
01:57:46.000 Yeah.
01:57:46.000 Yeah, so this was executed in his sleep.
01:57:47.000 There was not even a claim that he was an imminent threat to anyone.
01:57:51.000 So the premise behind no-knock raids, let's also explain it because it sounds so psychotic, is we have to do these because otherwise the person might destroy the evidence.
01:58:00.000 Now, I could even wrap my head, if it's a coke dealer, and he's gonna flush the coke down the toilet, why they don't just shut off the water in that case doesn't make sense to me, and is really risking these officers' lives worth their cocaine.
01:58:10.000 You can still flush toilet even if the water's off.
01:58:12.000 The point is, you're not flushing those guns down the toilet.
01:58:15.000 You cannot destroy an armada and arsenal of guns in even a long period of time.
01:58:20.000 Yeah.
01:58:21.000 And these people are murderers.
01:58:23.000 And by the way, this is why I say all cops are criminals.
01:58:26.000 How much money would it take Gretchen Whitmer to tell you to put on body armor and at three in the morning shoot someone in their sleep or break down their door while they're in bed at age 23 with their pregnant girlfriend?
01:58:41.000 If you can take any kind of money to do that, you are a monster.
01:58:45.000 All right, Charles.
01:58:46.000 Balyozian says, welcome to Tim Pool bets.
01:58:49.000 Everyone demanded jury trial.
01:58:51.000 The state can't process all of us.
01:58:53.000 Convicts strong together.
01:58:54.000 Don't bend the knee.
01:58:55.000 Let's go.
01:58:57.000 Crackbot says, Tim, aren't you the one saying that the Kenosha Kid was going to get life in prison?
01:59:01.000 So what makes you think that they would get a fair trial?
01:59:04.000 I'm not entirely convinced they would.
01:59:05.000 There was a lot of people politically fighting on their behalf.
01:59:08.000 I do think the Kenosha Kid will likely get life in prison on these charges.
01:59:12.000 I still think he needs to fight and not plead guilty.
01:59:15.000 Imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse was like, I'm gonna plead guilty to felony assault with a deadly weapon instead of two counts of murder because at least then he'll only go for 25 years.
01:59:23.000 Nah, he needs to fight and he needs to win and he needs all the support he can get.
01:59:27.000 Tim, I also think it's very hard for, maybe for me, maybe not for you, because you've actually been arrested.
01:59:32.000 When you're in that environment, I think it's very, very hard to think rationally.
01:59:36.000 And I think the longer you spend in that prison, the more you think, this is what I'm looking at for the rest of my life.
01:59:42.000 I can't do this.
01:59:43.000 I can't do this.
01:59:43.000 I'll take whatever I can, like a rat in a sinking ship.
01:59:46.000 That's what I imagine is psychology for a lot of these people, and I don't blame them.
01:59:49.000 It's my design.
01:59:49.000 It's dehumanizing, and it's torture too, especially if you're in solitary confinement, which a lot of people are.
01:59:54.000 I will stress this about Kyle to make sure I'm clear.
01:59:57.000 I wish none of that ever happened.
01:59:59.000 It's a horrifying tragedy, and I think any violence that comes from the state afterwards is just making everything worse.
02:00:04.000 So at this point, I hope there's a fair trial, and we'll see what comes of it.
02:00:09.000 But we've had what, four or five witnesses in here telling us about what happened, and we even had Destiny.
02:00:15.000 He's a leftist.
02:00:17.000 He said it was the clearest case of self-defense he'd ever seen, and he got banned on Twitch for saying that.
02:00:21.000 He got removed from their partner program.
02:00:23.000 So anyway, look.
02:00:25.000 I think you won't always get a fair trial, but I think if enough people stood up and demanded their rights, we could have an impact before it's too late.
02:00:35.000 Yeah, I think you're right that it instills panic and that we almost need some sort of like military training to stay calm in the face of authority.
02:00:42.000 Or just be from Eastern Europe.
02:00:44.000 Yeah.
02:00:45.000 Right?
02:00:45.000 Be steeled.
02:00:47.000 We got a really, really big super chat that was retracted.
02:00:49.000 How much is it?
02:00:50.000 It was 500 bucks.
02:00:52.000 You could retract super chats?
02:00:53.000 Yeah.
02:00:54.000 No, no, no.
02:00:54.000 The message was deleted.
02:00:55.000 The Super Chats.
02:00:56.000 Who is it by?
02:00:57.000 I don't know if I should read it because they took their comment away, right?
02:01:00.000 Does the name start with G?
02:01:01.000 No.
02:01:01.000 Okay.
02:01:01.000 No, it's a long name.
02:01:04.000 Wow.
02:01:05.000 Thank you.
02:01:06.000 Man, that's soda money.
02:01:09.000 Fudrucker3000.
02:01:09.000 That's not actually what the name is.
02:01:11.000 That's the worst of the Fudruckers.
02:01:12.000 Well, that's not the name they actually put, though.
02:01:14.000 The name is the other one.
02:01:16.000 Yeah.
02:01:16.000 I had the opportunity to be on a local trial twice.
02:01:19.000 First time, it was heavily implied that a child was abused.
02:01:21.000 Second, it was clearly about attempted murder.
02:01:23.000 Jury nullification isn't as simple as liberals dream it to be.
02:01:27.000 Yes, liberals.
02:01:28.000 You know, I don't think I'd ever get chosen for a jury.
02:01:31.000 Ever.
02:01:32.000 Because I have a policy of I will almost always say not guilty in almost every circumstances.
02:01:39.000 Someone, who shall remain nameless, when they were doing jury selection, went up to them and said, I'm an anarchist, and I will not vote to convict under any circumstances.
02:01:47.000 And they said, too bad, you're on the grand jury.
02:01:51.000 And I'm like, or whoever that person was, was like, all right, let's dance.
02:01:55.000 I'd absolutely say I will not convict.
02:01:58.000 Well, I say 99%.
02:02:00.000 Look, if they come and they're like, here's a video of him beating a child to death, I'd be like... And whoever this person was certainly did convict because there are cases where it's like, weed?
02:02:08.000 But there's also cases like, this guy tied up his adoptive mom and raped and killed her.
02:02:12.000 It's like, okay, this is not an anarchist versus... Right, right, right.
02:02:16.000 This is this person should not be convicted.
02:02:17.000 I'm not trying to fight you, I'm telling you my philosophy so you know.
02:02:19.000 you can present not just evidence beyond a reasonable doubt but like clear
02:02:23.000 evidence proving guilt my personal philosophy is jury nullification and
02:02:27.000 advocacy of to all other jurors so I'm more than happy to be on your jury to
02:02:31.000 advocate all the other jurors how we can nullify this discharge yeah and if they
02:02:35.000 say okay I'm down I'm not trying to fight you I'm telling you my philosophy
02:02:38.000 so you know yeah and if they want me on there so be it you know and we all this
02:02:42.000 also to Homer Simpson's advice on how to get a jury duty Which one was that?
02:02:45.000 Uh, to say you're prejudiced against all races.
02:02:48.000 Uh, so, Phoenix Gold says, Tim's crossfire idea, malice and Vosch.
02:02:52.000 It would leave me speechless.
02:02:54.000 You know the rest.
02:02:55.000 Uh, Vosch has agreed to come back on.
02:02:56.000 Are you familiar with Vosch?
02:02:57.000 No.
02:02:57.000 Oh, somewhat.
02:02:58.000 Isn't he like a socialist?
02:02:59.000 Yeah, I think he's a socialist.
02:03:00.000 He's a prominent leftist YouTube personality.
02:03:02.000 And I told him I would love to have him come back with another person, but I don't want it to be an unfair kind of ambush.
02:03:08.000 So if I got like the foremost leading expert on some field to come in between two commentators that would act like I'm not I'm not all about that so I said if there's someone you want to bring that you know he's like I'm not I don't think it matters you know let me know and so I started reaching out to a few people I thought would be would be good to have you know what I really would like to do is People who are clearly at odds in the political spectrum, but focus on subject matter that doesn't cross over.
02:03:33.000 So, you know, finding someone who's maybe a bitcoiner libertarian to talk with someone who's like a critical race theorist.
02:03:39.000 Or like have that discussion where it's like they don't tweet about each other, but here we are, we'll find some agreement on something and disagreements on other things.
02:03:47.000 So that's what I'm thinking about with, you know, inviting Vosh back.
02:03:51.000 Obviously critical race theory is one of the bigger components because of what's happening today.
02:03:54.000 Have you seen an advocate of that?
02:03:55.000 Yeah.
02:03:56.000 So we had a conversation with him here and I think, I'll put it this way actually, I had a conversation on Facebook today.
02:04:04.000 Someone posted a meme that was actually really critical of critical race theory and the leftists didn't know that they posted an anti-critical race theory meme.
02:04:13.000 And then argue with me about it because they thought it was pro-critical race theory.
02:04:17.000 So it said, it was a woman saying, would you like to learn the history of racism in the United States?
02:04:21.000 And I said, watch out.
02:04:22.000 She could be teaching critical race theory.
02:04:24.000 The joke is the left comes in and says, we're just teaching about racism, but watch out.
02:04:30.000 It's actually racist, identitarianism or indoctrination.
02:04:34.000 But these leftists genuinely thought critical race theory was literally just history.
02:04:38.000 That's what Chris Wallace said during the debate.
02:04:43.000 And so when I countered and said, here's an example of what they're teaching in schools, it was an article from the Sacramento School Board arguing for creating white racial identity groups.
02:04:51.000 I said, I don't know how we're better serving our children by telling them to form white racial identitarian groups.
02:04:57.000 And they said, what are you talking about?
02:04:59.000 This post is about teaching history.
02:05:01.000 And I said, you didn't say history, you said critical race theory.
02:05:03.000 And they were like, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
02:05:06.000 And I said, I just sent you a link to this thing.
02:05:08.000 They're teaching in schools that white people should have a white racial awakening and should form groups of only white people to discuss their race.
02:05:15.000 And I said, let me ask you a question.
02:05:16.000 If you believe that white people are colonizers, do you think that putting a bunch of white people together and telling them to discuss their racial identity would result in more or less racism from these people?
02:05:27.000 And they were like, well, I think they'll learn the right lesson and become good people.
02:05:30.000 And I was like, is that why the alt-right became so prominent for the amount of time they did?
02:05:34.000 Because learning about racial identitarianism made them peaceful, anti-racist or something?
02:05:40.000 I think it just told them to form racial identity groups, which they did.
02:05:43.000 Whether it's positive or negative is irrelevant.
02:05:45.000 But this is what they genuinely believe.
02:05:47.000 So, Vosch, I don't want to put words in his mouth at this point, but I think during the conversation was generally of the opinion that critical race theory is simply an academic theory analyzing the intersection of race and policy, which it's not.
02:05:58.000 That's what they claim it to be, but when you actually look at what they say, and they talk about race as property.
02:06:04.000 It's Martin Bailey.
02:06:05.000 It's a racial identitarian ideology, which, so I'll put it this way.
02:06:11.000 Critical race theory is the academic theory based in racial identitarianism.
02:06:17.000 There you go.
02:06:18.000 So when they come and say it's just a theory, say, sure, sure.
02:06:21.000 But the theory that forms, the ideology that forms these theories is a perception of racial identitarianism as being paramount.
02:06:29.000 I oppose racial and identitarian.
02:06:32.000 We've only had- You have to, you're mixed race.
02:06:34.000 There's nowhere for you to go.
02:06:35.000 Right, so this is what I tell people.
02:06:37.000 The world Yeah.
02:06:38.000 has existed as an identitarian civilization since the dawn of time.
02:06:42.000 We've only had 56 years of an attempt at anti-identitarian law.
02:06:47.000 Critical race theory seeks to reimpose.
02:06:51.000 This is a reactionary ideology.
02:06:53.000 They oppose the revolution that we had 56 years ago.
02:06:56.000 It's not even been... People are still alive.
02:06:59.000 My family, still alive, who went through identitarian laws, that's exactly what the critical race theorists seek to impose.
02:07:06.000 They want to undo the hard work that my family and many others did.
02:07:10.000 And it's very, very simple.
02:07:11.000 I don't understand, you know, these people.
02:07:13.000 This guy I'm arguing with is a white guy.
02:07:15.000 And I was like, You're a white man telling a mixed race person that you seek to impose law based on race, which would cause extreme harm to my family.
02:07:23.000 Of course I oppose you.
02:07:24.000 And they say, well, shut up, we don't care.
02:07:27.000 Yeah, of course.
02:07:28.000 So that's why I talk about it the way I do.
02:07:28.000 Yeah.
02:07:30.000 If people are interested in this, James Lindsay was on my show.
02:07:32.000 You guys had him on.
02:07:33.000 Yeah, he's great.
02:07:34.000 Me and him go back and forth for an hour, really getting into the details of this.
02:07:39.000 If you go on YouTube, James Lindsay, Michael Malice, you can find that it's one of my best episodes.
02:07:43.000 What's the metaphor of Motten Bailey you brought up?
02:07:45.000 Oh, so Mott and Bailey, I talked about this in the new write, it's a technique, it's a very common, once you identify it, you can't not see it.
02:07:52.000 Where you have basically the Mott and the Bailey, I forget which is which.
02:07:52.000 See it everywhere.
02:07:55.000 You have the castle, and then you have the grounds, right?
02:07:57.000 I believe the Mott is the hill.
02:07:58.000 The hill, okay.
02:07:59.000 So basically what will happen is... Are you sure?
02:08:01.000 That's kind of secondary.
02:08:02.000 So they will have a premise which is indisputable, then they'll have a premise which is ridiculous, right?
02:08:02.000 Okay.
02:08:08.000 So it'll be like, okay, um...
02:08:11.000 We need to eradicate racism in America and have people to be treated fairly.
02:08:15.000 Okay, I'm agree with that.
02:08:16.000 Then you agree that people who are economic minorities should go to college for free.
02:08:21.000 I'm like, whoa.
02:08:22.000 But you just agreed that we need to eradicate racism.
02:08:25.000 So they just vacillate between, they get you to agree to something that you can't not disagree with.
02:08:30.000 Then they extrapolate that to what they think is organic.
02:08:33.000 And when you argue with the extrapolation, they retreat back into the area of agreement as if that premise therefore covers what they're extrapolating to.
02:08:42.000 You said the Mott was the hill.
02:08:43.000 I think I thought so.
02:08:44.000 The Bailey is the open field.
02:08:44.000 You're correct.
02:08:46.000 The Mott is the hill where the keep is on top.
02:08:49.000 And so, yes.
02:08:50.000 So that's what they were doing.
02:08:51.000 They were like saying, I want to explore the history of politics and race in America.
02:08:57.000 That's extremely germane.
02:08:58.000 Everyone wants it.
02:08:58.000 That's very fascinating.
02:08:59.000 What was it like being black in New York in the 1700s?
02:09:01.000 I would love to know.
02:09:02.000 Right.
02:09:02.000 So therefore, we need to critically teach racism.
02:09:04.000 Well, no, no, no, no.
02:09:06.000 Well, you just said... I think it's the other way around, actually.
02:09:06.000 I'm not for that.
02:09:08.000 What they'll do is they'll say, we need racial identitarian law and affirmative action.
02:09:14.000 And then when you say, I think it's wrong that you're telling a child Simply by looking the way you do, you don't get to go to Harvard.
02:09:21.000 And they say, what are you talking about?
02:09:23.000 We're just trying to teach the history of racism.
02:09:27.000 And that's exactly what they did.
02:09:29.000 So my response to this guy is critical race theory.
02:09:31.000 And they may not even do it intentionally.
02:09:32.000 They're just trained to see these things as synonymous.
02:09:35.000 But I do think I got through to some of these people.
02:09:38.000 I think a lot of them genuinely don't understand what they're talking about.
02:09:40.000 Correct.
02:09:40.000 They just watch CNN and then believe the lies.
02:09:43.000 And so my response was... The training.
02:09:43.000 Yes.
02:09:45.000 You have to use the Socratic method.
02:09:48.000 I don't approach these people as enemies.
02:09:50.000 I simply agree with them.
02:09:51.000 When they post this meme, I just immediately was like, I think teaching children in schools to form white racist groups is a bad idea.
02:10:00.000 And then when they're like, what are you talking about?
02:10:02.000 Yeah.
02:10:02.000 Here's a link.
02:10:03.000 And then they read it and they go, I don't understand.
02:10:04.000 And I'll be like, that's what they're teaching in these schools.
02:10:07.000 And then we get into an argument because they want to defend their tribe.
02:10:10.000 But eventually I said, ultimately the end of the conversation, I was like, it sounds like we agree that I think we need to teach the true history of racism and colonization.
02:10:18.000 Like everybody knows Christopher Columbus didn't discover America.
02:10:21.000 There were already people here and he didn't even land in America anyway.
02:10:24.000 But you can argue to the Europeans, it was the first time Europeans had contact, so I think understanding the context is very important.
02:10:30.000 Now, I think we also agree, telling a bunch of white kids to form a group based on just being white and discover their white racial identity, probably not a good thing, right?
02:10:37.000 Well, of course.
02:10:38.000 Great.
02:10:38.000 Here's the literature, here's what they're saying.
02:10:41.000 It's really amazing how the leftists will accuse conservatives of not knowing anything about critical race theory.
02:10:47.000 And I'm like, well, perhaps what's being argued, because I'll say this.
02:10:52.000 I could have done a way better job in my discussion with Vaush, for sure.
02:10:55.000 But when we talk about critical race theory, there's certain very obvious grievances and things that are happening that we're concerned about.
02:11:00.000 I'm not complaining about Derrick Bell writing some literature.
02:11:04.000 I don't care about his opinions.
02:11:05.000 I'm not complaining about Ibram X. Kendi writing a book.
02:11:08.000 He's allowed to write a book.
02:11:10.000 What I'm complaining about is applied critical theory.
02:11:13.000 And I think one of the problems that conservatives have, they keep saying critical race theory over and over again, and that is the left's battleground.
02:11:19.000 They immediately then say, oh, well, here's Kimberlé Crenshaw.
02:11:23.000 We don't teach Kimberlé Crenshaw in schools.
02:11:25.000 What they're doing is applied racial theory, or what they call, they call it critical race praxis.
02:11:30.000 So what happens is they take the theories, turn it into an indoctrination, and then slip it into every subject.
02:11:37.000 So when you say critical race theory, the immediate response is, I don't think we've had a lecture on Derrick Bell once in fifth grade.
02:11:43.000 That's absurd.
02:11:44.000 And you're like, that's not what I'm talking about.
02:11:46.000 That's what critical race theory is.
02:11:47.000 So, all right, let's read a couple more here.
02:11:51.000 Buttertoast says, Reno May posted a video today about a Cali police department that illegally took high capacity magazines from a guy that could legally own them, then proceeded to tell the owner that even if a court order was given, he wouldn't get them back.
02:12:03.000 Yep.
02:12:04.000 Yep, yep.
02:12:04.000 Criminal.
02:12:05.000 I'm pretty sure that's, like, just stealing.
02:12:07.000 Yeah.
02:12:08.000 It is.
02:12:09.000 Yeah.
02:12:09.000 Yeah, but the state's doing it, so it's fine, right?
02:12:12.000 All right, uh, we'll do two more.
02:12:14.000 Have you ever heard of taxes?
02:12:16.000 Yeah.
02:12:17.000 I've heard of this thing called taxes.
02:12:18.000 Delana Manuel says, Michael, I just joined your locals.
02:12:21.000 I came across the autobiography of Ukrainian immigrant Alexander Sass Jaworski.
02:12:27.000 I'll post more details on your locals feed.
02:12:29.000 Okay, thank you.
02:12:30.000 And just in line with the last conversation, Samuel Harris says, Tim.
02:12:35.000 The Samuel Harris?
02:12:37.000 The Samuel Harris.
02:12:38.000 Tim, how do you respond to people who call you white or white-passing in order to shut down your opinion in discussions around race?
02:12:44.000 Do you pee-pee in their Coke?
02:12:46.000 I immediately start screaming on top of my lungs.
02:12:50.000 I call them racist over and over again.
02:12:52.000 And I say, racist said what?
02:12:54.000 Racist says what?
02:12:56.000 So I've had this happen to me many times, and one of the issues is it is a big excuse, and then I say, like, well, I get it from my whole life.
02:13:07.000 People told me that I was Mexican.
02:13:09.000 White people tend to say I'm Mexican.
02:13:11.000 People who aren't white tend to say I'm white.
02:13:13.000 So what am I supposed to do?
02:13:15.000 I don't exist in any of their worlds.
02:13:16.000 I'm always an other.
02:13:18.000 There are some places where I blend in perfectly.
02:13:20.000 I was in Egypt, and they were like, you don't gotta worry about a thing.
02:13:23.000 People will think you're Egyptian, and I was able to walk around.
02:13:25.000 But here's the other thing.
02:13:27.000 15 years ago, and remember this is on The Real World, there was a character, Piggy, I think was even her name, was on The Real World London, I'm thinking.
02:13:33.000 There was so much hand-wringing about mixed-race people, And how they don't fit in anywhere, and there's girls who are like half black, half white, and the black girls tell them they're too white, and the white girls are racist, and we need to have more representation of multiracial people.
02:13:47.000 When you have the census, what am I supposed to check off?
02:13:50.000 My dad's, you know, Chinese, and my mom's Hispanic.
02:13:53.000 There's no box for me.
02:13:54.000 And this was a big conversation.
02:13:56.000 It's a big move about leftism, and now that you have the CRT thing, it's just like, Yeah, we don't care about that.
02:14:01.000 That was just kind of an excuse.
02:14:03.000 I mean, no, no, no.
02:14:04.000 I've straight up had these CRT people, like, essentially tell me that I'm a chopped liver.
02:14:11.000 I'm a second-class citizen.
02:14:12.000 During Occupy Wall Street, they said, too effing bad.
02:14:15.000 It is for us and not for you.
02:14:17.000 And I'm like, we're the smallest minority in the country, and not only that, we're not cohesive.
02:14:21.000 Someone who's like, you know, black and Asian is very different looking from someone who's white and Asian,
02:14:28.000 or who's Hispanic and, you know, Middle Eastern or something.
02:14:31.000 I'm like, not only are we the smallest minority, but in our own individual groups,
02:14:36.000 we're even smaller of a minority, and they say, we don't care.
02:14:40.000 Yeah.
02:14:40.000 At Occupy Wall Street, they told me to just go screw myself.
02:14:42.000 Yeah.
02:14:43.000 They said, you get to go leave.
02:14:44.000 Leave.
02:14:45.000 You're not part of this.
02:14:46.000 You don't get a group.
02:14:47.000 You don't get advocacy.
02:14:48.000 No one's going to support you.
02:14:49.000 Right.
02:14:50.000 And I was like, well, then screw you guys.
02:14:51.000 I'm going home.
02:14:52.000 Yeah.
02:14:52.000 And I'll make my own Occupy Wall Street with Blackjack.
02:14:56.000 With Blackjack.
02:14:56.000 That's right.
02:14:57.000 Just Blackjack, though.
02:14:58.000 Yeah, just Blackjack.
02:14:59.000 It's got to be legal.
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02:15:32.000 Michael, you have a book.
02:15:33.000 Do you want to shout anything out?
02:15:34.000 AnarchistHandbook.com and I'm Michael Malice on Twitter.
02:15:37.000 And yeah, this book wouldn't have been such a huge success without you guys.
02:15:41.000 And without you guys.
02:15:42.000 So having that You know what it's like when you have that freedom to create what you want and you can pay your rent.
02:15:51.000 Yes.
02:15:52.000 And given my personality, it's going to be a really fun 2021.
02:15:55.000 It's a beautiful feeling to have that.
02:15:58.000 May you live in interesting times.
02:16:00.000 That's also a curse, you know.
02:16:01.000 I know.
02:16:02.000 Yeah, yeah, that's right.
02:16:03.000 And just so people know, I am posting very inappropriate memes during the show on Twitter and Instagram.
02:16:10.000 I have this in airplane mode.
02:16:10.000 Oh, you are?
02:16:11.000 I've been tweeting up a story.
02:16:13.000 All under LukeWeAreChanged, LukeWeAreChanged Twitter and Instagram.
02:16:16.000 And my cult is going very well.
02:16:19.000 You may or may not be able to join it on LukeUncensored.com.
02:16:23.000 I really want to give a shout out to that book, Michael.
02:16:26.000 That's awesome.
02:16:27.000 That's really cool.
02:16:27.000 And I love the cover.
02:16:28.000 We didn't talk about the cover on air.
02:16:30.000 It's some sort of vapor.
02:16:31.000 How did you describe it?
02:16:32.000 I didn't describe it, Ian.
02:16:33.000 Okay, so it's like a vapor wave looking... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:16:36.000 Look at that.
02:16:37.000 It's just cool style.
02:16:38.000 Let's tell you the story of the cover.
02:16:39.000 John Gerges did this cover.
02:16:40.000 He also did my theme song for my podcast.
02:16:43.000 What I did with this cover, this is what I realized.
02:16:46.000 Everything that we as old, very online people are used to, corporations haven't thought of doing it yet.
02:16:52.000 So Vaporwave, which is like this, like 18, 1980s Miami look, which has, it's like, it's been been there, done down the internet, like 2017, yawn.
02:17:02.000 But I knew no corporate publisher would have a cover that looks like this because it hasn't percolated yet.
02:17:08.000 So I would be able to have a cover like this that no one else had, and it would really pop from the screen.
02:17:12.000 And I'm ecstatic with it.
02:17:14.000 And this is Louis Ling, who was the, he was the first Che Guevara.
02:17:17.000 He was the big stud of anarchy, and we gave him a little dynamite lapel pin.
02:17:21.000 I love it.
02:17:21.000 Oh, very nice.
02:17:22.000 Thank you guys so much.
02:17:23.000 I have never accidentally switched to my own camera before, so there's respect for everything.
02:17:27.000 I apologize for that, but I am actually here in the corner.
02:17:30.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I attempt to surpass Sour Patch Kids and followers.
02:17:36.000 Oh, I love Sour Patch.
02:17:37.000 Oh, and I surpassed today the Libertarian Party.
02:17:40.000 Oh, yes!
02:17:42.000 They're gonna have to have you on as press secretary now.
02:17:44.000 Oh, it's gonna be great.