We re a week away from the mid-term election, and the media, big tech, and big old Joe Biden are all out to get Donald Trump re-elected, and they re doing it in a big way that we ve never seen before. We re joined by Ryan Hartweg, a former content moderator for the site, who leaked a ton of documents to Project Veritas, and also interviewed with them and laid it all out.
00:00:35.000And the most important thing that any one of these candidates can do in order to get more votes is to get their message out.
00:00:41.000Well, we've seen some of the most dramatic censorship in the past couple of weeks, notably the New York Post.
00:00:49.000It is the oldest newspaper that's never been in uninterrupted circulation, the fourth biggest in the country, is still, as far as I can tell, Suspended on Twitter for a story we now know to be true.
00:01:01.000Now, there's a lot in this story about Hunter Biden that we haven't necessarily confirmed, but there are emails, they're suspect.
00:01:07.000We've got a whistleblower, a man named Tony Bobulinski, who has now come out and said he's worked with the Bidens and he knows they were doing this nefarious stuff.
00:02:25.000But as we mentioned the other day with Alan Bakari, Ian was a co-founder of Minds.com, which is one of the most prominent... I don't like saying alternate, you know, social media platform, but Minds is pretty big.
00:03:19.000I'm willing to bet there's a lot of people right now who are learning things they couldn't have.
00:03:23.000Like it was very... Let me rephrase this.
00:03:26.000There's a lot of people who are just now learning things.
00:03:29.000Information that was probably suppressed.
00:03:31.000I bet there's a lot of people who watched that debate the other night.
00:03:33.000And when Donald Trump said, your family was making a ton of money off these deals, these interviews, these emails, these meetings, you know, people want to know your brother made millions in Iraq.
00:03:44.000Someone probably said, whoa, what is that?
00:03:46.000And they couldn't hear that story because Twitter and Facebook were actively censoring it.
00:04:09.000Yeah, so as a content moderator, I mean, we see the most vile things that you can imagine that are on the internet.
00:04:15.000So, there was a training for a month and they threw us on the production floor and we would be seeing, you know, incest videos, snuff videos.
00:04:27.000I was working for a time the Spanish queue in Latin America, so I'd see a lot of cartel violence, beheadings, throat slittings, pornography.
00:04:36.000So everything that's horrible on the internet, that's what I would take down and delete.
00:04:41.000I've heard a lot of people get PTSD from watching these videos all day, every day.
00:05:40.000Would you delete videos, delete posts or what?
00:05:42.000Yeah, I would delete videos, I would delete groups, pages.
00:05:44.000I monitored the Mexican presidential election in 2018, so there was about 200 of us on the Spanish side, and we were monitoring the Mexican presidential election.
00:05:53.000But yeah, I could take down whole groups, pages, videos, posts, comments, for Facebook and Instagram.
00:06:30.000And then, I mean, I added, by May of 2019, and we can go through the timeline at some point, But yeah, I mean, I had made a list before I even decided to reach out to like journalists or Project Veritas.
00:06:42.000I made a list of about 20 examples of biases I'd seen.
00:06:45.000And then that list just grew and grew.
00:06:46.000And so by the time I went public four months ago, I mean, the list is like I have 30 plus clear cut examples of bias.
00:06:53.000And this this is why Congressman Matt Gaetz, you know, could take the evidence I gave him.
00:06:58.000And he was able to give that to the DOJ.
00:07:01.000And because of that, there's a criminal referral to the DOJ for Mark Zuckerberg.
00:07:22.000Did you ever personally remove American conservatives?
00:07:26.000Um, yeah, so, for example, just a quick example, like, um, there was a viral video in summer of 2018 where this Trump supporter got attacked in a restaurant.
00:07:50.000And they even knew it was a viral video.
00:07:52.000They said, Hey, we know this is a viral video showing a Trump supporter being attacked, but because there's cursing delete the whole video, which.
00:08:00.000kind of fits the, it's kind of a gray area in the policy.
00:08:02.000Like we don't allow cursing in a minor, we're normally that's person to person.
00:08:06.000So if I'm on Facebook attacking a minor, cursing at the minor,
00:08:09.000that's different than just sharing a video with a neutral caption.
00:08:12.000And in some of those videos, the curse words were even bleeped out. Wow. So,
00:08:16.000so how would you describe yourself politically? Do you, Are you conservative?
00:09:36.000So, I mean, yeah, I can definitely see them protecting leftist viewpoints when it comes to protests, topless protests, when there's females protesting, or if there was a protest called Grab Them by the Ballot that showed a bunch of females naked protesting Trump, a plan where it's for the grab them by the... Right, right, right.
00:10:15.000So, Facebook told us, and the word on the street there at Facebook was, hey, we brought all the content moderation to the US, which is very expensive, by the way.
00:10:24.000It was like a $200 million three-year contract.
00:10:26.000So they brought these jobs to the U.S.
00:10:28.000so they could keep it closer on the election.
00:10:31.000And the reason they gave was because Russia interfered in the 2016 election.
00:10:36.000So that was the whole basis for them bringing thousands of jobs to the U.S.
00:10:53.000So they said, hey, flag any content that's election related.
00:10:56.000If it meets certain criteria, flag it with a VI, which goes directly to the Facebook queue, to Facebook employees.
00:11:04.000So, and then just this past fall, they were like, they sent us a message saying, we urgently need visibility into conversations about the Democratic debates, the Democrat debates, when the primaries.
00:11:16.000So even stuff that's not violating, they want to know what's going on.
00:11:20.000Because without us flagging trends, like I was flagging this past January and December, I was flagging like Boogaloo and Civil War was trending.
00:11:39.000Alan Bakari, for those unfamiliar with him on the show, he's a journalist and tech reporter for Breitbart, and he's been covering a lot of this.
00:11:45.000He mentioned there's this program where they're trying to pull people to the center.
00:11:56.000Well, it sounds like you didn't come across anything like that in your work.
00:12:00.000Dick, actually when I talked to the policy manager, Sean, I had a lot of conversations with him.
00:12:04.000He was in charge of the, he was a cognizant employee, but he could make decisions for like the entire, you know, all the staff at the Phoenix location.
00:12:13.000So he could make a decision for a thousand workers about the policy.
00:12:18.000And so I asked him about that and he's like, yeah, we try to like segregate people, like like-minded people together to prevent more, yeah.
00:12:25.000They're tribalizing people on purpose.
00:12:44.000Facebook really wants visibility and wants to know what's going on.
00:12:47.000He's like, if Facebook had identified some of these trends in 2016, then they would have been glad to know what the trends were in 2016 when Trump won.
00:12:56.000They were trying to figure out why people who are far right became more moderate, regular, conservative, whatever, and they wanted to find whatever content they were viewing and give them more of it.
00:13:12.000Did they ever come to you and say, this content clearly breaks the rules?
00:13:17.000Like, I understand you mentioned the leftist protest, but I'm wondering if there was other examples where they said, these things get a special exemption.
00:13:24.000Like, straight up told you, don't get rid of this kind of content.
00:13:31.000I'm trying to think of some examples like that because I know I know they gave newsworthy exceptions like like if you know, there were celebs Opposing abortion in Alabama and they said something that violated the policy then then Facebook giving them a pass We can go back to that later if you'd like discussing abortion But so they gave specific newsworthy exceptions to promote allow, you know promotion of leftist ideologies but as far as what you're saying is Like, is there a type of content we're looking for?
00:13:59.000They did say, look for right-wing extremism globally that might lead to violence.
00:15:05.000So Sean Browder, for example, was a huge Bernie Sanders supporter.
00:15:08.000The reason I ask is because, you know, when I worked for some of these media companies, it seems like their goal is to hire people who are progressive left-leaning and then let them do their thing.
00:15:18.000You know, they don't need to tell you to go after conservatives if you're already biased, you know?
00:15:25.000But it doesn't seem like they were doing that.
00:15:26.000It doesn't seem like they were hiring people, you know, they're just hiring, it seemed like they were hiring regular people.
00:15:32.000I think for promotions, I think they definitely did take that into account.
00:15:35.000What's crazy, too, is the summer after I started, that June or July, they actually made us link our personal Facebook accounts to continue working.
00:16:14.000Do you feel like they, because of your politics or just because you didn't fit in with like their culture, they didn't give you a promotion or they held you back or what?
00:16:24.000Yeah, I think it's probably the politics about it.
00:16:28.000I mean, in the interviews, they said, hey, as part of the policy team, you're gonna be interfacing with the client a lot.
00:16:34.000So, I mean, if you're a higher-up, if you're hiring someone for the policy team and you know they're gonna be interacting a lot with the client, why would you promote a right-wing or conservative person if, I mean, if you're trying to protect, yeah.
00:16:47.000It's really similar to what I was told when I worked for Fusion, side with the audience.
00:16:51.000Look, the people who come to us are progressive, therefore we give them, you know, we want to give them what they want.
00:17:11.000I mean, just think about, it's about gathering information and intel.
00:17:16.000So, I mean, you have, for example, just as an example, this past fall you had their Ukraine whistleblower and Facebook's guidance was to delete that.
00:17:25.000And I was on the front lines when that happened.
00:17:28.000Yeah, when so we can't say the Ukraine whistleblowers name on YouTube right now
00:17:32.000This is this is active censorship. If we say this person's name, they will cut the feed
00:17:36.000I have videos on YouTube that are in this weird state that doesn't exist anywhere else on YouTube
00:17:43.000So what happens is if you break the rules on YouTube, they'll delete your post if it's not a rule-breaking thing
00:17:50.000But it's like borderline and they're like well look they'll do what's called forced private
00:17:56.000Your video will change to private so only you can see it, and you can't change it back.
00:18:01.000But you don't get a strike, it's not banned, it's just one of the steps they have.
00:18:05.000What they did to my videos on the Ukraine whistleblower, this is the guy who started the whole impeachment process, they are almost just a graphic on the website.
00:18:14.000When I go into my videos, I have one video on my main channel, one on my second channel, TimCast and TimCast News.
00:18:19.000When I go into my videos, the videos are there, you can see them, but you can't click anything.
00:18:24.000When the mouse goes over it, it doesn't change.
00:19:24.000A senator, an American senator, on the Senate floor said to the American people, this guy and this guy were overheard saying they wanted to remove Trump.
00:19:33.000Had nothing to do with the whistleblowing.
00:19:44.000So when we first discovered it, I ran across this job and I was talking to my
00:19:49.000coworker Skylar about it and we're like, Hey, what should we do?
00:19:52.000This guy's, you know, a whistleblower or whatever.
00:19:55.000And so we raised it to our local policy team and, and we made, they made an interim decision for the next six hours to delete it under our privacy policy because they thought that he was undercover law enforcement.
00:20:08.000And I have screenshots of that exact same policy.
00:20:10.000Wait, wait, they thought the whistleblower was an undercover law enforcement?
00:20:20.000And so that was the initial decision from our local policy team.
00:20:23.000And then six hours later, Facebook said, okay, we'll continue deleting it, but we're going to delete it under this generic part of the policy called coordinating harm.
00:20:31.000So there's nothing in the wording of that policy at all that relates to whistleblowers.
00:20:36.000So it was just delete, coordinating harm, other.
00:21:32.000But we even had a picture of George Soros' son that people are confusing with the Ukraine whistleblower, and I raised that up.
00:21:38.000And they asked my supervisors, and they asked Facebook actually, I think, and they said, no, still delete it because they're implying that it's him.
00:21:46.000So it wasn't even him, it was someone else.
00:21:54.000And I did one post that was like, I wrote this thing, which was basically, I wrote a short paragraph saying why censorship is wrong, but the first letter of each word spelled his name going straight down.
00:23:45.000Just a quick aside, you know that the Melania Trump nude photo, where she's crotch to crotch with another female?
00:23:52.000We had this huge discussion about that because per Facebook policy, if they're crotch on crotch and one of them doesn't have underwear on, if it's a guy and a girl, there could be, for the sake of a better word, penetration.
00:24:06.000I'm trying to talk about this scientifically.
00:24:09.000Um, and so we were, we ended up interpreting the policy to delete that because anyways, it was just kind of weird, but it's, you know, two females next to each other.
00:24:20.000So Caitlin Bennett, yeah, there's this meme trending about her, you know, passed out drunk, but you can't see her face.
00:24:26.000So there's, there's some college co-ed face down and her friends are standing around and she's passed out drunk and there's stuff coming out of her backside and her skirts pulled up halfway, like halfway up her buttocks.
00:24:48.000But the policy says if we don't know if it's a public figure or private, then we default to private individual to protect the private individual.
00:24:56.000So they should have done that from the get-go.
00:24:58.000There's another policy called sexual exploitation of adults that covers creep shots or taking pictures of people when they're passed out, half naked.
00:25:07.000And so there's clearly a lot of things they could have deleted this for.
00:25:12.000But the guidance was, and I have a screenshot of the guidance, they said, well, we don't know, but we kind of think that it is true, so leave it up.
00:26:21.000So Facebook gave her a Given exception to give her additional protections and we know she's there's something, you know autism I think and so I want to be respectful of that as well I think she's 17 now or she I'm not sure she's 17 or 18 18 But anyways, so people were calling her gretarded, and this is after that incident at the UN where there was an exchange between Greta Thunberg and Donald Trump.
00:26:45.000But people were calling her gretarded.
00:27:53.000Do you think that's what's happening now?
00:27:55.000100% I mean like the yeah and like a lot all the evidence I have points towards that um yeah that they are like interfering the election I have this these notes here so this is what they did for the 2020 elections they created a new queue so it's called the civic harassment queue and so they combined basically hate speech and bullying in a way But they're saying they said why were the changes made to the existing guided review tree for bullying harassment?
00:28:22.000And they said bullying harassment has been identified as a priority issue around the US 2020 election.
00:28:28.000We acknowledge that anyone can share an opinion about the US 2020 election, but not all voices carry equally far.
00:28:34.000nor are equally susceptible to attacks.
00:28:37.000We want to protect not only influential figures who are vulnerable to harassment
00:28:42.000through their status, but also ordinary folks that make themselves vulnerable by interacting with content generated
00:29:16.000When they track the trends, it's giving them intelligence on what's going on and how people think and feel when it comes to elections and politics.
00:29:24.000You know, I'm curious because I know that Mark Zuckerberg apparently had a private meeting with I think like Trump and Ben Shapiro and some other people or something.
00:29:31.000I'm wondering if they realized, a lot of people were mentioning, if the Republicans win, And they're not censoring Republicans.
00:29:39.000They'll probably be fine because the conservatives rarely want to regulate big companies.
00:29:42.000In fact, there's a lot of conservatives right now saying, no, it's a free speech thing, we don't want to regulate.
00:29:47.000If the left wins, even if they support them, they're going to regulate antitrust or whatever.
00:29:51.000So a lot of people were suggesting that Mark Zuckerberg at some point realized the trend.
00:29:55.000That free speech, you know, liberals were joining conservatives and defending, you know, free speech and these values.
00:30:03.000And then Mark Zuckerberg switched to start defending the right.
00:30:06.000So now we have, there's two big stories that overlap.
00:30:10.000One is that Facebook recently was de-ranking progressive websites like ThinkProgress.
00:30:16.000And that actively helping, in a way, conservative sites, and that's why conservative sites are now the top ten most shared or engaged with content every single week.
00:30:27.000You can see it's like Fox News, Ben Shapiro, Dan Bongino, every single time.
00:30:31.000So I'm curious if you saw, it doesn't sound like you saw anything, but I'm wondering if you saw any kind of shift in that capacity.
00:30:38.000If there's any veracity to that theory.
00:30:40.000So, from a business standpoint, obviously it makes sense to side with people who are more towards free speech or more libertarians, who want less government involvement, because the last thing Facebook wants is more government regulation, right?
00:30:54.000I ask a lot of people at Facebook, my coworkers, like, hey, what are Facebook motives?
00:31:21.000And I have some personal experience with that.
00:31:23.000When I worked at Uber Corporate in 2016 as a contractor, I worked as a fraud analyst for about two months.
00:31:31.000And we had this club meeting with called UberHue, like the Ebony Club from high school or whatever, but it's called UberHue.
00:31:39.000And one of the leaders was like bragging about how they got Travis Kalanick, the CEO of Uber, to retract his statement of All Lives Matter.
00:32:08.000So yeah, as far as, yeah, with Mark Zuckerberg and this trend.
00:32:11.000So I did notice a lot of changes after the civic audit.
00:32:14.000So the civic audit from the Covington Law Firm with former Senator John Kyle started in about May of 2018, right after the... Yeah, what is this?
00:32:23.000Yeah, so basically I think there was pressure from Congress obviously because Zuckerberg had just testified in April of 2018 and So there was this claim that conservatives were being censored.
00:32:34.000So this independent law firm Covington headed by former Arizona Senator John Kyle basically went in and interviewed a bunch of people working at Facebook and tried to validify these claims and And so they found that, yeah, there was some validity to them.
00:33:00.000They began being a little more careful about what they said.
00:33:02.000I saw less, more blatant leftist leaning posts.
00:33:07.000But as to your question as far as, you know, what Mark Zuckerberg's strategy is, or if he's now leaning to the right, I mean, from a business standpoint, like I say, I mean, it's possible that he's trying to play both sides.
00:33:23.000But I think it definitely, I think there's too much pressure from these organizations on the left.
00:33:28.000I mean, if you can have the Uber CEO retract his statement because of pressure from Black Lives Matter, I think there's too much social pressure from the left.
00:34:23.000It seems like... I mentioned this, I think the previous episode, there's a meme that came from 4chan that any sufficiently free space will become right-wing and only through hard moderation can a space support left-wing ideas.
00:34:43.000I guess my question to you in that capacity is, when it came to left-wing content versus right-wing content, do you see a difference between an individual's post or a corporation's post?
00:34:52.000Like, was one side doing more corporate, one side more people, individuals?
00:34:57.000I definitely saw more corporate posts that were leftist.
00:35:01.000And I saw more just individual people who were right-wing.
00:35:04.000Uh, and then a funny thing is with the, with, um, how they treat certain words.
00:35:07.000So with, there was something called the bullying slang list.
00:35:11.000So if I call someone, if I call Ian over here, if I say Ian, Ian, you're a Trump humper.
00:36:19.000So they have a hierarchical collective structure, a corporation, telling them what to do and think, and they go along with it.
00:36:26.000But in that sense, too, it's interesting.
00:36:28.000That's why that meme exists, that without moderation, it would all be right-wing, because the individuals would all be the ones speaking, and the left would not have any kind of group at all.
00:37:09.000And you mentioned this collective force of the left-wing and it's like it's like the Borg like you mentioned on Tuesday the Borg from Star Trek yeah Resistance is futile.
00:37:17.000Yeah, and like and then they were throwing who is it that Armstrong that CEO of the that one tech company?
00:37:23.000Under the bus because he wouldn't he said it we don't want to I don't want to talk about politics at work You remember his name Armstrong, which I think was Armstrong.
00:40:45.000So are we—is this our last election?
00:40:47.000If Trump loses—and I'm not saying this to praise Trump.
00:40:51.000I'm saying, if the Democrats win and the machine is favoring them to win, are we just under the boot of the machine if we can't stop it now?
00:42:04.000So with Jason's lawsuit, basically he tried to sue them, and then Facebook's like, oh, well, we're not the publisher, but the publisher is different than a publisher.
00:42:16.000So they're like, we're not the publisher, as in we weren't the ones who originally wrote the content.
00:42:22.000But they were acting as a developer because they were promoting or de-boosting certain content.
00:42:26.000And so that's the argument that Jason Fick has is basically to fix Section 230 we need to have it either reinterpreted by the... Basically we need to have it interpreted correctly by the Supreme Court because it's been interpreted incorrectly by the Ninth Circuit Court of California which has given additional protections and immunity under Section 230c1.
00:42:49.000Yeah not c2 because we always talk about c2 so well hold on so what uh can you explain section 230 just uh easily for people who don't know what it is yeah so 1996 um the congress created a law that was supposed to protect children on the internet from bad content so that if someone has a um Yeah, if someone hosts a platform or a message board, that message board would not be responsible for every single comment.
00:43:17.000But it gave immunity to these platforms.
00:43:20.000I hate to use the word platform, but... It's like digital information site or something, I think.
00:43:25.000Yeah, like there's service providers, there's information content providers, which is you and me, and then there's another category.
00:43:33.000But yeah, for the sake of simplicity, yes, it gave platforms immunity.
00:43:37.000But yeah, so the way it was designed, the way it was interpreted is fine, but the way it's been reinterpreted by the 9th Circuit gives additional immunity to these platforms.
00:43:44.000Basically, how it started was there was like a news website, I guess, and someone commented on it saying... I think it was the dude from Wolf of Wall Street, actually, who was like the subject of the suit.
00:43:56.000Someone went on the website, commented, this dude is like a scammer or something like that.
00:44:01.000So he sued the website saying, you published this comment.
00:44:05.000The website said, no we didn't, it was a comment from somebody else.
00:44:08.000So this led to the creation of this law that said, okay, newswebsite.com can't be responsible for a comment.
00:44:15.000So we're going to pass this law that says you are not responsible for this content so long as you are not the publisher or editor of the content.
00:44:24.000Then the website said, wait, wait, wait.
00:45:39.000If you want to make an argument that, you know, Facebook, Twitter, whoever, shouldn't be sued because a commenter said something, I'm listening.
00:45:45.000If you tell me that Facebook can appoint people to insult and make statements about other people or defame by calling them liars, Well, Facebook's responsible for that.
00:45:53.000Facebook's the one who's authorized that posting.
00:45:56.000It is not the same as a random user signing up and using it.
00:46:00.000They've said, okay, these seven people are allowed to say whatever they want.
00:46:03.000It's like, okay, well, Facebook, when you put a card over my post, you have editorialized and you have personally published a statement.
00:46:32.000So, yeah, the way that it's been interpreted is that Section 230 has been interpreted by the Ninth Circuit Court of California gives Facebook additional protections under C-1.
00:46:43.000So that whole motive part of being a good Samaritan doesn't even apply.
00:46:48.000So in Jason Fick's case, when Facebook fought back with their appeal or whatever, their response, they didn't have to argue on the basis of Section C-2, they just argued on the merits of C-1, which the 9th Circuit had interpreted which favors them.
00:47:46.000Says treatment of publisher or speaker.
00:47:49.000No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
00:47:59.000No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of A.
00:48:04.000Any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected, or B, any action taken to enable or make available to information content providers or others the technical means to restrict access to material described in paragraph 1.
00:48:28.000So basically the first C1 is, you can't, I'm not liable for what another person said.
00:48:34.000C2 is we're allowed to remove whatever we want, as long as we're doing it in good faith, which basically this point means literally whatever.
00:48:41.000And you could argue that if they're putting like a notice out that says Tim Poole posted fake news that they're become a publisher under section one, C1.
00:48:50.000So what I'm saying is, well let me tell you the story.
00:48:54.000I posted something about Bill Clinton and Epstein Island.
00:48:58.000Everything I said was factually correct.
00:49:00.000I said Bill Clinton was seen in these flight logs, he was seen on the plane, he was ID'd by a witness on the island, and this is not major breaking news.
00:49:10.000I'm paraphrasing right now because I don't have the tweet in front of me.
00:49:14.000Somebody screenshotted it, because it went viral, posted it to Facebook, and Facebook put a card over it saying false information or something.
00:49:40.000And if you look at the definition of development, which is actually in the law, it says, you know, choosing to promote, prioritize, well, this is not the law, but basically choosing to promote, prioritize, advance, boost, or increase the availability or usability of information is by definition development.
00:49:56.000Go look up development in the web service.
00:49:57.000So I'm reading from Jason Fick's analysis.
00:50:00.000But yeah, I mean, the service provider Yeah, they're sponsoring ads, so the entire nature of their business violates Section 230.
00:50:19.000That makes sense, because one of the arguments that we've all been saying about Twitter and Facebook for a long time is, if they choose the winners and losers, they may as well be the New York Times.
00:50:28.000The only difference, the New York Times says, I hire you, write for me, and then they choose which to go up on the site, whereas Twitter has everybody write for free, and then we'll choose which one to go up on the site.
00:50:36.000Yeah, and even Clarence Thomas and his opinion, and that was Malwarebytes versus Enigma Software, and that was this past Tuesday, October 13th.
00:51:15.000But, you know, Jim Sensenbrenner, this congressman from Wisconsin, he's been in like 21 terms and he's out there saying, well, we shouldn't punish successful companies.
00:51:34.000And that's why I'm voting now, because I think something's happening.
00:51:37.000You've got, on the left and the right, populists.
00:51:40.000And I think the left hates the right, the right, well, I shouldn't say hate, but they think, both sides think each other is crazy.
00:51:45.000But I'll tell you what, I would rather, I want to see these These people who sat in office for decades doing nothing, saying the bare minimum, taking cash from big corporations and then just being like, whatever, I'm not going to do anything for you.
00:51:59.000Who cares if the people are suffering?
00:52:04.000But yeah, just to summarize Section 230, I mean, imagine, like, your public library, and you go to the public library, and, you know, the library itself is not responsible for what's in the content of those books, right?
00:52:13.000But, whereas, if you go to Barnes & Noble, like, they're promoting certain books, there's certain books that are on special, so that's kind of the difference, and so Facebook's kind of morphed from a public library into this Barnes & Noble, so to speak.
00:52:33.000And it's a Connecticut thing, because that's where the corporation's based.
00:52:35.000So it's not legal in Connecticut, it's taken off the site.
00:52:38.000But if it's legal, it stays on the site.
00:52:40.000It just goes into different buckets, depending on if it's objectionable.
00:52:43.000And then you have to opt in to see objectionable content.
00:52:46.000By default, everyone kind of has the rated G filter on.
00:52:50.000That's interesting, because Jack Dorsey's talked about that.
00:52:53.000Like, uh, Some kind of system where instead of getting banned, I think it was Jack, maybe I'm thinking of somebody else, but I think it was Jack Dorsey, that if instead of getting banned you get put in basically like the underbelly and people can choose to go into the dark crevice of horror Twitter and see all of the nasty pictures and photos and people and it's still like
00:53:17.000And that's a little weird because you put it in the terms and like objectionable is a horrible word to use because like how do you define that?
00:53:29.000We've got like a 12 person jury system where if they judge that it's objectionable then it goes the objectionable thing and you can appeal that objectionable, you know.
00:55:07.000I mean, you want to, if you have anyone whistleblower comes forward, you want to examine their motives, right?
00:55:12.000And so, um, yeah, I mean, that's a valid point.
00:55:15.000Something that I also mentioned in the video that came out is, um, okay, well, first you got to realize, okay, my, if I got a promotion, how much more money would I be making?
00:55:59.000So I only ask that because the next question is, at what point were you like, I've got to do something and I've got to just release all this stuff?
00:56:08.000So it's funny because there was actually another insider who blew the whistle on wrongdoings at Cognizant who felt that they weren't helping us enough with our mental health.
00:56:31.000And I saw him there and he walked around and he wrote an article about it.
00:56:36.000And so in a way that might have been a little bit of inspiration for me because I had some information that was kind of bothering me that I'd seen some examples of bias.
00:56:45.000So that May, three months later in May of 2019, I wrote a letter to Congress or to a few congressmen with about 19 examples of bias and I didn't hear back and that's when I started reaching out to a couple journalists.
00:57:39.000But it did bother me because I think I saw something, what did I see that May of 2019?
00:57:47.000There were a lot of things that bothered me.
00:57:48.000But one of the things that bothered me the most, I think, that came out that I saw in 2018 was They made an exception to allow calling straight white males filth.
00:57:58.000So they said, Hey, every summer there's this pride month.
00:58:01.000Um, and we're going to make an exception to allow attacks on straight white males for not supporting LGBT.
00:58:07.000So straight white, if you say straight white males are filth for not supporting LGBT, that's allowed.
00:59:35.000But yeah, so the February 2019, the Verge article came out and I didn't agree with some of it because I felt like they had, like Cognizant did a really good job of helping us with our mental health.
00:59:59.000I heard another story that people are getting red-pilled by moderating this content because they see so many right-wing memes that they start to be like, hey, wait a minute, you know?
01:00:08.000Is that something you've ever experienced?
01:00:10.000Like, not you personally, but did you see anybody who was like, hey, I saw this thing?
01:00:14.000I don't know if, I don't know anyone personally.
01:00:17.000I know some people were like, were open to conspiracy theories or like, you know, the flat earth theories, things like that.
01:00:25.000So it did expose you to different viewpoints and you did get a darker sense of humor.
01:00:30.000You got kind of like a gallows humor from working there.
01:00:32.000Did you have like really nasty inside jokes?
01:00:35.000Like the 12th time you saw an incest video and like everyone's like, Oh, one of those, huh?
01:00:39.000And you guys are laughing about the horror of it all.
01:00:49.000So I'm wondering if, like, you're watching, like, videos of murder and, like, all this crazy stuff and then someone's just cracking really dark jokes about it to try and bring some, like, levity to the situation, you know?
01:00:58.000Yeah, I think that can be effective in a way.
01:01:00.000I mean, therapy, I mean, a way of dealing with it.
01:01:04.000One strategy that was kind of cool that one of the counselors taught me is if you're seeing something really violent, you don't really want to empathize.
01:01:10.000You want to visualize yourself in a movie theater and then there's another you standing at the back of the theater.
01:01:16.000So you're watching yourself in the movie seat watching the film and the film is what you're seeing in the video.
01:01:23.000So it kind of distances and detaches yourself from the actual content.
01:01:49.000You can see their personal information.
01:01:51.000So not not too much personal information sometimes just your profile photo and their name, but I'm sure I'm sure it's crossed through people's minds I mean hunt these people down.
01:02:00.000Oh, yeah, like wow, dude, and then that'd be a cool superhero film I guess to be too gritty like a dude is a content moderator for Facebook Every time he sees a video.
01:02:10.000He just likes like like kind of like like Liam Neeson I He said, like, the guy gets a Facebook message and he's like, I'm a Facebook content moderator.
01:02:48.000But we'd have just the weirdest conversations, like, you know, hey, is this... Because we had definitions for, like, I don't know if I can say this, like, for erections.
01:03:06.000I'm imagining a dude walking up to a guy who's putting cream in his coffee, and it's like, so I got a video today, and this guy's got a screwdriver, right?
01:03:14.000He's holding this other guy down while strangling him, and he lifts his arm up, and then it cuts out.
01:06:46.000Um, but I mean, like, so I was going to say, so remember that, that Trumpsman viral meme, like from the Kingsman movie, there was this Trumpsman meme and we actually, yeah, we categorized that.
01:06:58.000So it showed, so it showed a scene from this fictional movie Kingsman where there's a lot of violence and it was like killing the media.
01:07:04.000Yeah, killing the media, and so I had the real photos photoshopped in, but like, in the graphic violence, so we actually put an interstitial on that.
01:07:21.000And wasn't Trump, like, it's like, so Kingsman's an awesome movie, and it's like this is really graphic scene where he's killing, it's in a church.
01:07:27.000It was actually, I think Colin Firth was the actor.
01:08:00.000Putting up a video on Facebook, a scene from a movie where a British guy in a suit, a gentleman, brutally murders a bunch of Southern churchgoers, totally fine.
01:08:09.000But superimpose logos from media companies on it, and put Trump's face on the British guy and WHOA!
01:08:36.000And then there was memes showing, like a cartoon meme showing Bolsonaro with a knife coming out, kind of like a boomerang, and coming back, landing back on him.
01:08:45.000So it was mocking, or like, you know, mocking the events of this, of him almost dying.
01:09:42.000Yeah, in Brazil and everywhere else, because we're such a big strategic ally, and they look to us for leadership as far as, you know, basic freedoms and whatnot.
01:09:52.000I think it's funny that the people who oppose Trump call themselves the resistance, and they're literally on the side of every major multinational corporation and big tech conglomerate authoritarian structure.
01:10:04.000But Donald Trump, this one guy, I tell you what, they resist him.
01:10:08.000If he's a dictator, he's pretty bad at it because you think by this time after four years he would have taken control of, you know, Facebook and Twitter.
01:10:17.000It's funny that, you know, I spent my life growing up hearing from the left that the corporations are the problem.
01:10:46.000And Antifa punched him in the face, knocking his teeth out.
01:10:49.000And my question is just like, wait, so you got a black dude who's protesting against multinational billionaires who are stifling his speech, so you punch him in the face?
01:11:14.000Yeah, the whole corporate mentality, I mean, now you have these huge corporations, like, bending to the Black Lives Matter movement, and none of these groups are hate orgs.
01:11:25.000So the dangerous individuals and organizations policy deals with these organizations, like any criminal organization.
01:11:31.000So we have a list of cartels that we would delete on a regular basis, terrorist organizations, obviously.
01:11:37.000But they added something there and it said not allowed We delete people notable for attacking people based on
01:11:43.000protected characteristics. So based on the race Ethnicity gender, but it's such a broad definition. Okay,
01:11:50.000who are these people that are notable?
01:11:51.000Where's the list because we had the list of hate figures?
01:11:54.000So we had the list where you had another hate figures Because it's on the list that Facebook gives us
01:12:55.000And so, yeah, so this is the hate figure list.
01:12:58.000So, I mean, this is how they count, and the source they use, and I have evidence, the source they use is the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law.
01:13:08.000So, the SPLC went through its own major scandal where apparently they were being run by racists.
01:13:14.000And there was an investigation that found decades of racism.
01:13:18.000And that the organization itself was essentially just a bunch of racists making money off pretending to be not racist.
01:13:26.000And then storing a bunch of that money overseas or something.
01:13:29.000The ADL has its issues, but I gotta be honest, when you read articles from the Anti-Defamation League, like we had, and Ricky Tario of the Proud Boys here, it was, I would say, extremely critical.
01:13:44.000But it was... decent assessment, I should say.
01:13:48.000Like, they said they're clearly not white supremacists, though they have had members who overlap, and I'm like, that's true.
01:13:52.000Like, even they've talked to us about like, oh yeah, we had to kick these people out for these reasons.
01:13:56.000And so I think the ADL is... the problem with the ADL is that their view of everything is extremely negative, and they view all these groups like...
01:14:08.000I don't know how else to describe it other than they're very, very opinionated to an extreme degree.
01:14:15.000You know, you do one wrong thing and they're like, ah, that person's evil, but they'll mention what you did and why they're mad about it.
01:14:22.000Southern Poverty Law Center, as far as I'm concerned, just makes it all up.
01:14:25.000Like, they had one article that included me.
01:14:27.000Where they claimed that I went to an Iranian Holocaust deniers conference and their evidence for it was an archived version of a website that didn't exist anymore that was a Holocaust deniers website saying that I was an attendee.
01:15:54.000I mean, if there's some changes with Facebook and more things are allowed, I mean, if in general more things are allowed, and it's funny because the left always claims that Facebook's not doing enough to censor hate speech.
01:16:06.000When there's a bunch of people on the list that are right-wing, but there's nobody on the left.
01:16:10.000Even segregationists on the left, they're never on the list.
01:16:14.000Yeah, I think there's a lot of crazy stuff on the internet.
01:16:17.000I mean, I think we're barely even beginning to Grasp like how influential the internet is how powerful it's become in the last 20 years.
01:16:27.000We've seen this technology revolution So I don't think even the leading technologists or even the people who created the internet understand what it's become Assuming that goes into the larger debate of what's allowed on the internet.
01:16:38.000I mean, yeah, there's me crazy There's gonna be a lot of crazy stuff on the left and the right both both parts.
01:16:43.000I Do you think there is some kind of collusion between Democratic politicians and Facebook?
01:17:10.000What I can say is there's a group of about six people.
01:17:14.000So I talked to one of my team manager, Alexis, and she had conversations, interactions with the global policy team at Facebook.
01:17:23.000There's about six people who determine the policy.
01:17:26.000And she and she was telling me like yeah, like they're all kind of they all kind of have the same mindset And they're all based in San Francisco as far as direct like, you know collusion with Democrat politicians I talked to a journalist with the New York Post the other day one or two days ago and he was finding this connection between Twitter Executives who had this revolving door with the Obama administration Well, so there was a Facebook employee who joined Joe Biden's team and a Twitter employee who did as well.
01:17:54.000And I think the guy's name is Andy Stone.
01:18:26.000Apparently, I guess he worked for Barbara Boxer before.
01:18:29.000So, uh, what makes you, look, I get it.
01:18:33.000We have those stories, but, uh, you know, based on your experience working in this company, what, what made you think that there was potentially direct collusion?
01:18:42.000As far as direct collusion, I didn't work in the Facebook offices in Menlo Park.
01:18:50.000The people I interacted with were mainly Cognizant employees, to be frank.
01:18:57.000Now, Sean Browder is the person who interacted constantly with the client, with Facebook.
01:19:02.000And so what I can, you know, notice, what I've noticed from my conversations with him is, you know, first of all, he's very, he's very left-leaning, a Bernie Sanders supporter.
01:19:11.000Um, they, they are very interested in, you know, me bringing up trends about reckoning extremism, uh, like Boogaloo.
01:19:18.000And like, for example, the Virginia gun rally in January was labeled as like, Hey, watch out for hate speech or, you know, racist groups, you know, at this Virginia gun rally.
01:19:30.000So, I mean, the evidence I have is not really, you know, it's not like I had conversations with Facebook employees who said, yes, a Democrat politician told us to change the policy.
01:19:45.000So I think there's more of an indirect effect from all these leftist organizations.
01:19:59.000I mean, we had Joshua Faustine get banned like a month ago or whatever, and the only way he could get his account back was by reaching out to Trump officials, like people he knew.
01:20:11.000So if that's happening on that side, same thing's probably happening on the opposite end.
01:20:17.000I mean, if people are probably giving favors or helping out Democrat politicians.
01:20:23.000I did notice here's something huge that I do have evidence of is the something called the shields that people that they have that Facebook has So it's called the fire brigade Let me see if I have the notes on here, but basically I Anyways basically there's different shields so I ran across some content I tried to like action it and it was like you cannot action this content there is a shield on this content so fire brigade stands for like PR fire so there's different tags so there's like high pry X check tag and business tag so you cannot delete or touch certain content because it has this shield or tag associated with it.
01:21:03.000So, it may very well be that there's accounts that should be protected, kind of like VIPs, that you cannot delete.
01:21:11.000I ran into the same thing when I worked at Uber because we would deal with fraud and partner fraud, but we occasionally ran into VIP accounts, like really big celebs that we didn't want to piss off or have their account canceled or something.
01:21:23.000So we seeing everything we've seen over the past year, you know, someone like myself, I read the news all day and I have my opinions on whether or not Trump's going to win.
01:21:31.000But with your experience with how big tech is manipulating the election, essentially, do you think Trump is going to win?
01:21:39.000I think that Trump has a good chance of winning.
01:21:44.000I think Facebook's doing everything they can to push people a certain way.
01:21:51.000There was a cartoon image of Trump shooting himself and Facebook said, we're going to allow that.
01:21:57.000Who was the guy who tried to assassinate Reagan?
01:22:00.000He got out of jail or out of the hospital.
01:22:12.000And so, yeah, I really think there's a chance that, that, you know, despite all that, there's a good chance Trump will still win, especially when you're going against someone like Joe Biden.
01:22:21.000I wonder if it's not despite all that.
01:22:51.000Yeah, I think you're right in a lot of regards.
01:22:52.000I think it's backfired because there's so much hate against Trump that the normal individual who's not hateful is like, hey, why is there all this hate against Trump?
01:23:02.000And so, yeah, I think that's very possible.
01:23:04.000There's been pushback and it's kind of worked against them.
01:23:07.000And the fact that I revealed this damaged, you know, Facebook's reputation and brought to light certain things.
01:23:15.000If Facebook had been playing by the rules from the get-go, then I wouldn't have been able to film their discrepancies, them breaking their own rules.
01:23:22.000Can't Facebook just be like, oh no, this is cognizant, these, these, oh darn it, these evil contractors, we had no idea.
01:23:29.000Well, some of the posts, they can't really argue that because, for example, when they told us to not treat abortion as a violent death, it said the Facebook team has given us, it said the FB team has given us guidance to not treat abortion as a violent death.
01:23:43.000That reminds me of my conversation with Jack Dorsey when I was explaining to them that their rules are inherently biased.
01:23:49.000And, you know, Vijay Gadde and Dorsey were immediately like, oh no, that's not true, what are you talking about?
01:23:53.000And I said, you have a misgendering policy.
01:23:56.000Like, you straight up say if you misgender someone, if you went to a conservative and said, don't misgender someone, they would assume you're saying, if someone is born male, then you call them he, him, and if born female, you know, she, her.
01:24:07.000Whereas Twitter's perspective is the inverse.
01:24:10.000If somebody says their identity is, you know, then you gotta use that.
01:24:13.000So, to a conservative, what Dorsey views as misgendering, it's inverted.
01:24:18.000And if their rules are built around a progressive understanding of these definitions and what they mean, Then yeah, they're inherently biased.
01:24:27.000Yeah, because like, you can't really tell that you're biased.
01:24:30.000If you're that biased, you can't tell that you're biased.
01:24:32.000And there's that group think effect that we saw, you know, in 2008 when the media just fawned over President Obama.
01:24:40.000But an example of that related misgendering is we had, so in the hate speech policy, if you're attacking someone, like a race or an ethnicity, and you have like a stick figure that represents them, then that can still violate.
01:24:50.000So if you have a little cartoon imagery of A Christian figure, like a little stick figure, kicking a Muslim stick figure out of Europe, that violates the hate speech policy.
01:25:00.000Because they're representing, the stick figures are representing that characteristic, the ethnicity, the race.
01:25:06.000And so with mental, okay, so with gender, so there was a meme that showed the, that was calling certain genders a mental illness.
01:25:17.000So, I think it was like non-binary or something like that.
01:25:20.000He was saying, and he said, this is a mental illness, but there was no stick figure.
01:25:49.000These Bernie bros are getting news from progressive websites, and these writers are getting their news from Facebook posts, and then it's all being recycled.
01:26:02.000You know, Twitter is probably one of the worst things that ever happened to journalism because it created a feedback loop among journalists where they just follow each other and share the same stories over and over again.
01:26:12.000And Facebook's algorithm essentially promoting intersectionality because it's got more keywords, more buzzwords, and it's shot content.
01:26:19.000So long as they allow it, it will continue to get worse.
01:26:24.000These people on Facebook accidentally got sucked into this vortex, where content that was about police brutality and intersectionality was socially acceptable, because racism, bad.
01:26:35.000And it combined all these keywords, so it made money, and that was the perfect storm.
01:26:40.000These people were reading this stuff on Facebook, believed it all, then got hired at companies to moderate and said, oh, but these things are true, I see them all the time.
01:26:48.000And then the journalists see the same thing and write the stories and create this feedback loop where they're all spinning away in their little human centipede vortex off in the corner while regular people are confused as to what is going on.
01:26:59.000Because regular people aren't in that world.
01:27:02.000That's the craziest thing to me is that, like, Joe Biden struggling, struggling to find that space between regular America and the Democrats is just, it's not there.
01:27:13.000And that's why he's trapped in this fracking thing.
01:27:17.000The reason Joe Biden lied and said we're gonna ban fracking is because the activist left is in that vortex with these people at Facebook, with these journalists, and they believe insane things, and they're a tiny group of people, relatively.
01:27:31.000So Joe Biden, if he wants to be the Democratic nominee, you gotta say the craziest thing imaginable.
01:27:36.000And that's why even Bernie was like going off the rails, and their policies kept getting crazier.
01:27:40.000Then once Biden won, Now he's got to talk to regular America again.
01:27:44.000And so he's like, no, no, I don't want to buy fracking and they're like, here's a video of you saying it over and over again.
01:27:53.000I think you've got The desperate Democrats chasing after Twitter, the Twitterati left, who are in this human centipede vortex, and it's going to backfire on them because regular people don't live there.
01:28:06.000Regular people don't know what Joe Biden's on or talking about when he says these things.
01:28:10.000And I think that's why they're so desperate, you know, to run.
01:28:13.000I think they're running against Trump, like anti-Trump.
01:29:30.000So that's my thing is like, you know, if Schlotzky's getting in trouble for that, look what Facebook's doing on a global scale.
01:29:38.000I was monitoring content in Latin America, in Venezuela, in Mexico, the Mexican presidential election.
01:29:44.000I saw some, you know, content about Spain.
01:29:47.000Facebook has training decks for Poland, for Taiwan, for every country imaginable.
01:29:53.000In Poland, Facebook shut down their Independence Day march every year because they called it hate speech.
01:30:00.000They're always purging these nationalist groups in Spain or in Europe.
01:30:06.000And so I just think that, you know, the amount of power they have and influence they have is immense and they're using all of it to try to influence this election in the name of, you know, protecting against hate speech.
01:30:19.000It's a feedback loop and it's going to implode at some point because the things they believe are getting more and more unhinged and it literally doesn't make sense.
01:30:42.000This woman, with all due respect, I respect that she was a bartender and it's part of the American dream, you know, that anybody can be uh... a politician it's it's for oven by the people seem to
01:30:53.000be smart person in the world you gotta be rich
01:30:55.000and that's pretty incredible but man does she not know anything about what she's doing
01:30:59.000the bills that she's gotten past the black renaming post offices
01:31:02.000and yet she still gets all these left a screaming and cheering for
01:31:06.000and i i i so i i was talking my friend this guy in our earlier
01:31:10.000There's a viral post by Sophia Narwicz of all of these leftist blue checks mocking Trump for saying coyotes were bringing kids over the border.
01:31:18.000Coyote, of course, is the name of the smugglers who bring people across the border.
01:31:23.000All of these people thought that Trump was literally talking about coyotes carrying children, like the Dingo Ate My Baby or whatever.
01:31:32.000It was a combination of ignorance and arrogance.
01:31:35.000And then when I see AOC, and I see her getting 400,000 Twitch stream viewers, I'm just like, our politicians of the future, it's gonna be idiocracy.
01:31:44.000They're going to be influencers who know nothing, but man, can they get those views.
01:34:19.000So the project was to put him in this chamber, put him to sleep for a year, wake him up.
01:34:24.000And it was him and a prostitute who got put in this program.
01:34:28.000But, I guess he mentions, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie, because of bureaucracy and a loss of funding, they moved the stasis containers into storage and forgot about it for 500 years.
01:34:39.000Then the machine finally kicks open, it's been 500 years, he wakes up, he's in the future, and now he's the smartest person in the world because In the beginning of the movie, they explain that evolution wasn't favoring those who were the most skilled.
01:34:53.000Humanity had reached a point where evolution just rewarded those who reproduced the most.
01:34:57.000And then it shows this really funny scene where, like, this football player is, like, he wins a football game, and he goes, I'm gonna do you!
01:35:04.000And then it shows, like, his family tree getting bigger and bigger, like, babies popping up.
01:36:03.000That's nothing to do with why people are stupid.
01:36:05.000Oh, that's a big part of why people are stupid.
01:36:07.000No, people are stupid because they're being catered to on their baser instincts by social media and by video games, and instead of going out and actually engaging with the world, we are continually... It's like we're institutionalizing our children Every generation is more and more institutionalized.
01:36:25.000A kid goes to school, and he's told what to do, and he's given everything.
01:36:29.000Here's your lunch, here's your homework, do it.
01:36:31.000They come back, now they're 22, they're 24, they're 26, they're getting out of college, and they say, just tell me what to do.
01:36:37.000I've never done anything on my own, I'll just do what you tell me.
01:36:39.000Then they go on the internet, and they hear their stupid tribalist garbage, and they all laugh and giggle about how dumb they are, but they think they're smart.
01:36:45.000Those are the people who are voting right now.
01:37:24.000But maybe, I don't know, maybe they are dumb, and they're gonna be like, Trump is bad, and, you know, vote against him.
01:37:28.000Now I'm not going to sit here and act like Trump is the perfect person, you know, that we need, but I'll tell you this.
01:37:34.000When you've got Facebook and these big tech companies and they're manipulating everything and they're, and they're, uh, you know, everything they're doing.
01:37:42.000The only thing we can do right now is hope the Republicans win and then enact some 230 reform and change this.
01:37:47.000Otherwise we will get a government run by people like Ocasio-Cortez who don't pass anything, but stream video games on Twitch and do Instagram live streams, but clearly have no understanding of politics.
01:37:58.000Yeah, it reminds me of the 1993 movie Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone, where in the future, they're cops, basically in the future, and this, every time you curse or swear, there's this, it automatically finds you.
01:38:13.000It's like Alexa, with, it automatically, like, finds you.
01:40:07.000You gotta vote for your comptroller, and your governor, and your president, and your foreigner people to represent the dreamers.
01:40:16.000First, your block leader in Chicago, then your aldermen, then your sheriffs, then your county commissioners, then your city council people, then your mayor, then your state senators.
01:40:27.000One of the problems in this country is that people stopped voting locally.
01:40:30.000power over me but I want to be the one that decides where my tax dollars go.
01:40:34.000I don't want I want to just have that power.
01:40:36.000Bro, what you don't understand is that one of the problems in this country is that people
01:41:05.000What you don't seem to understand is that when you vote for somebody, When you want your streets cleaned, you vote for your city councilman who says, I will clean the streets.
01:41:15.000Or you run for city council on cleaning the streets.
01:41:18.000We have all of that local stuff, but Americans don't do that anymore.
01:41:21.000They're voting for senators on local issues for federal issues.
01:41:26.000They're like, this is what blows my mind about modern politics.
01:41:29.000You'll see a politician in Congress or the Senate, and they'll say, I'm going to go to Washington and I'm going to help you here by fixing this thing.
01:41:46.000You want to fix the city, you got to vote for the locals to do the local thing.
01:41:48.000I don't even, I think that's, we could cut that part out.
01:41:51.000I mean, the technology is good enough.
01:41:52.000We don't need someone above us unless you don't want to participate and you want to give away your power.
01:41:57.000But why, why would you, why would you hire someone to do your, to represent you when you can just represent yourself?
01:42:02.000I guess the question is why do you think someone's above you?
01:42:04.000Well, if you vote someone to have the power over you to do, you know, the, A lot of times it could just be menial work that you don't want to deal with.
01:42:31.000So you elect a representative who's supposed to have a better understanding and represent your best interests and say something like... And they don't.
01:42:36.000I've got farmers over here and coal miners over here and they disagree on this fundamental issue.
01:42:41.000Unfortunately, the one that has to be done is going to favor the coal miners.
01:42:45.000So there's this idea of, there's actually a group on Facebook that I know, a few guys, and they had this idea called the Seasteading Nation.
01:42:54.000And so basically, they want to build their own independent nation in the ocean, in international waters.
01:43:02.000So they've built up designs on how to build their, like, the structure, whatever, and they'd have to deal with, like, international politics.
01:43:09.000But, you know, if you're going to do that, if you're going to build a, give me one second, you know, your own little nation in international waters, you've got to be careful about who you bring out there.
01:43:18.000Because if there's enough crazy people, then things can go get chaotic, right?
01:43:22.000It's really difficult to make a functioning society.
01:43:49.000You get Hillary Clinton going on stage and speaking with a Southern accent.
01:43:52.000You get Ocasio-Cortez going on stage and now all of a sudden she's talking with a Latina accent and she's like, but that's my first language.
01:44:13.000She renames some post offices, and then she goes and does Twitch and activism, and she talks about getting rid of farting cows.
01:44:18.000None of which is realistic or is going to help anybody.
01:44:20.000She tries to implement this radical social-economic change in the Green New Deal, which is more about the economy than it is about the environment, using the environment as a cudgel.
01:44:29.000We have politicians that just don't care.
01:45:28.000The crowd will then storm to some random person's house and then burn it down because they thought little girls were inside and they weren't?
01:45:33.000Yeah, but giving one human the power over 750,000 people's lives is less effective than giving those 750,000 people the decision.
01:45:42.000Ocasio-Cortez represents a district to the federal government.
01:45:44.000She fails to represent them, by the way.
01:46:01.000So what it sounds like you're not understanding is that when a politician comes out for Congress and says, I'm going to clean up our district and do good.
01:47:39.000The internet has kind of digitized, in a sense, our political world, so that instead of focusing on my neighbor, you know, threw poop in my yard, ah, I'm angry about this, we should make that illegal, he shouldn't be allowed to do that, so I'm gonna vote for a guy who's gonna pass that law to make that illegal.
01:47:55.000Instead, what's happening is they're like, someone's polluting in my backyard, it's my neighbor, and he dumped a big ol' bucket of poop, so I'm gonna vote for a federal politician to go and vote on whether we should go to war with it, you know, in Afghanistan.
01:48:05.000It has nothing to do with what's happening in your backyard.
01:48:08.000So what ends up happening is, in California, you get one party control because people are like, Democrat.
01:48:13.000And the Democrats at the local level do literally nothing.
01:48:16.000Then they vote for federal level politicians to go do things at the federal government level who don't do anything for California.
01:48:22.000So San Francisco, for instance, you got Nancy Pelosi.
01:48:25.000She represents San Francisco to the federal government.
01:48:28.000She's not going to clean up San Francisco.
01:48:29.000Her city's in ruins because people don't care.
01:48:44.000So on September 27th, 2019, there was a post that was direction to it given to us as content moderators, and it was having to do with cops.
01:48:53.000So, if I have a photo of a cop, I post a photo of a cop doing an arrest, alright?
01:48:57.000I'm standing there watching, taking a photo of him, post it on Facebook, and I put the caption, this cop is a pig.
01:49:06.000But, Facebook's policy says, if there's a private individual, this cop's not a public figure, they're not famous, if there's a private individual, I have a photo of them, I cannot compare them to an animal.
01:49:58.000And that's how nuanced the policy is, and there's a lot of gray area, and we try to all align and action things a certain way, but this exception, they said, Now, moving forward, as of September 27th, so we're talking about Facebook's preventing hate on the platform, right?
01:50:16.000They're saying, we're going to allow con cops pigs.
01:50:18.000And the only reason why was, quote, that is because of how the term is used in the NA market, North American market.
01:50:25.000So that was the justification for the decision to allow more attacks on cops.
01:50:29.000The only way that post of a Facebook of a cop getting called a pig, the only way it could get taken down is if that cop went to every single post and reported it himself with the name of FaceMatch.
01:50:40.000Well then, how about we do, uh, we're gonna go Super Chats.
01:52:18.000I think Trump did a good job in playing to, you know, trying to get Biden riled up and towards the last half hour Biden was, I think he was losing some steam.
01:52:27.000He was stuttering a little bit more Rio Grande.
01:52:30.000I think he was stuttering in that Rio Grande.
01:52:32.000So yeah, I think, um, yeah, I think a lot of people are going to want to change their votes.
01:52:37.000Hydro says, Tim, you say you get more views than CNN and other mainstream media, and if that is so, why would so many people not know about Hunter's laptop?
01:52:46.000I said I get around 55% of CNN's views on YouTube only, but YouTube, with their TV views and YouTube views combined, is like three or four times the views I get.
01:52:55.000Still, you know, it's not bad for my channels.
01:52:59.000GoAway says, Tim, look up the Great Reset.
01:53:01.000Biden's talking points are coming from the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab.
01:53:04.000I do not know who that is, but I'll check it out.
01:53:06.000Katie says, Tim, we don't always agree, but at least you are a journalist that is researching both sides to get the truth.
01:55:17.000If I worked for a company and they were like, we're gonna issue a big message about Biden, I'd be like, I'll walk out that door and then do it.
01:55:22.000Okay, later and I'll walk out the door.
01:55:25.000What's funny, Tim, is one of my trainers when I first started as a content moderator, one of my trainers was open about our political views.
01:55:32.000She said that Obama was her patronus charm.
01:56:04.000They'll write a book, someone will buy, you know, $500,000, and they'll say it's for an event or something, they'll put it in a warehouse, and then that money goes to the publisher and you get a percentage.
01:56:31.000Yeah, so the Hartwig Foundation for Free Speech is an Arizona non-profit corporation I formed last month.
01:56:38.000And so I'm trying to get 501c3 status.
01:56:41.000But you can go to ryanhartwig.org and learn more about it.
01:56:45.000But yeah, I'm looking to just be more active and be an activist as far as big tech goes and censorship because I feel like this, even if whoever wins in the next couple weeks, Whether it's Trump or Biden, we still need people to speak out about censorship.
01:58:01.000Talk about, like, I wonder if I could've got, you know, I would've made tons of connections, tons of high-profile personalities, schmoozed with all these bigwigs and millionaires, probably would've given me money, and like, do these things.
01:58:12.000I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna wear your clothes.
02:00:37.000So, Juan Guaido is supposedly going to run against for election.
02:00:40.000But you need to know that every single Latin American country, except for maybe Mexico, supported Juan Guaido as the legitimate president of Venezuela.
02:01:06.000Yeah, the theory is that the American sanctions caused the government to crumble, and then they blamed it on Maduro.
02:01:13.000Yes, they did they nationalized like I think they're recently national and not recently but nationalized like airlines or like it's all the airlines leave Dude, you if you've got a company doing a service and you're like, oh by the way, we're taking that company They're back.
02:01:27.000And then here's what happens every time with socialists You get a bunch of farmers right and they're like Farmers shouldn't own farms, so we're seizing your farm, and we're gonna put the workers in charge.
02:01:37.000And the workers are like, I don't know how to run a farm.
02:01:50.000Anyway, I want to answer this, not to get into Venezuelan politics.
02:01:55.000I don't know enough about the coup of Venezuela, but I'm not a fan if that's the case, and that's a good point of criticism.
02:02:01.000Sanctioning Iran, I'm not opposed to sanctions.
02:02:03.000I think sanctions are an excellent way of going about putting pressure on foreign countries instead of going to war.
02:02:09.000Staying in Syria for the oil, as far as I know, Trump tried leaving completely And he got attacked by the left and the right, Democrats and Republicans, trying to stop him from doing it.
02:02:19.000So then he just blatantly was like, okay, we're gonna keep him there to guard the oil, and I think he did that as kind of a smack in the face to the establishment.
02:02:26.000I'm gonna let everybody know exactly what we're doing there.
02:03:24.000I literally have two thoughts and then we can kind of wrap up.
02:03:26.000The reason I'm voting for Trump is because I don't care about the deficit anymore.
02:03:31.000That used to be one of my biggest issues.
02:03:33.000My biggest issue is the pursuit of human life, which is very, very important to me.
02:03:37.000And that extends to the Middle East, which is Tim's deal.
02:03:40.000So I just want to let you guys know, if you are concerned about the deficit and the cost, it's more important that we have a country to worry about the deficit for than we don't.
02:03:47.000Yeah, I really, I think we're facing dire straits no matter what.
02:03:53.000But banning critical race theory, these are some of the things that need to happen that I think will start reversing the problem.
02:03:58.000So I think Trump will be a net positive in the long run.
02:04:01.000Lawson Harrison says, get Ryan Dawson on your show ASAP.
02:04:04.000Don't buy into the crap spewed about him being a loon or whatever.
02:04:07.000He is a wealth of knowledge in the Middle East and everything relevant about politics.
02:04:24.000On another note, the downhill skate scene is super far left because there are a bunch of college kids who complain about capitalism and afro-individuals who think we are freaking nuts doing 60 miles an hour downhill on pieces of wood with wheels.
02:04:37.000I'll tell you this, it seems like pro skateboarders either don't care or are right-leaning.
02:05:13.000Like, dude, skateboarders will work minimum wage jobs so they can rent a one-bedroom apartment with five people living in it so that they can all work one day a week and skate the rest of the week.
02:05:23.000That's super left libertarians, as hippie as you get.
02:05:27.000These people are all like, wow, these people are crazy.
02:06:18.000I wouldn't say Trump betrayed Assange.
02:06:19.000I would say Trump is enacting standard foreign policy against the man, which is wrong, and he should pardon him.
02:06:25.000But I think Trump's perspective on this is Julian Assange knows exactly what happened with WikiLeaks and the Democrat emails, and whether or not a particular individual was a source.
02:08:40.000So if I didn't want you to vote for Trump, the first thing you do, it's the basics of persuasion, is rapport, extreme, and turn.
02:08:45.000The first thing is, I would be like, yeah bro, high five, like I'm all about it, you know, Trump 2020 maga, all that stuff.
02:08:52.000Rapport immediately makes the other person feel comfortable around you, like they're like me and I'm safe.
02:08:57.000It's a psychological tribalist function of the human mind or whatever.
02:09:01.000The second thing you do is called the extreme.
02:09:03.000After you agree with them, you offer up a positive proposition that is too extreme for them to agree with.
02:09:08.000You say something like, the reason you're voting for Donald Trump is because he committed atrocity, and you love that he committed atrocity.
02:09:15.000And then, this other person will be like, oh, no!
02:09:46.000When we used to do fundraising for non-profits, the smart people who are good at it, they understood these concepts.
02:09:51.000It's one of the reasons I hated doing this job, because it just became plastic.
02:09:54.000You're not actually talking to people and explaining what you think and what you want to do.
02:09:58.000But the gist of it is, you tell them, you respect them, yeah, Biden's great, all that good stuff, then you say something that Biden's done, and you say either, you know what, I'm glad that he was cutting deals with these Chinese companies, you know?
02:10:54.000I think everyone's getting all riled up just like they did the last day with Russiagate and it's going to result in nothing.
02:11:00.000Let's see, we got a couple more, let's see.
02:11:02.000Jason Savorn says, why not address today's media strategy of propaganda being similar to the strategies used by Joseph Goebbels in ushering Hitler to power?
02:12:10.000I don't want the government having access to those.
02:12:11.000Because at some point the government would have to have access to your social media account and then that's just kind of a slippery slope.
02:12:17.000We were talking about anonymous social media thing where you have peer verification where you'll have like If enough people can say like, oh, yeah, this account likes dogs, this account likes video games, then when you say this is who you are, they can see that, you know, 70 of your of your peers have acknowledged that you are who you say you are without ever having to acknowledge who you are.
02:13:06.000I mean, the video you saw with Project Veritas was just like scratching the surface.
02:13:11.000And there were some conversations I wanted to include in the video that didn't make it into the video.
02:13:16.000But just the last thing I want to say, it's kind of funny, is this is a post from October 17th.
02:13:21.000So Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg, gave a speech at Georgetown University this past October, or a year ago.
02:13:27.000And so they gave us instructions like heads up Mark Zuckerberg live speech He's gonna underscore the company's commitment to giving people a voice dot dot dot and then that same paragraph They're telling us but due to the nature of this commentary of feedback We may see escalations or an increase in user reports of hate speech and wanted to provide a heads up on this Free speech is bad.
02:13:47.000Zuckerberg's gonna talk about giving people a voice, make sure you delete any hate speech.
02:13:51.000So I mean, it just shows you where their heart is.
02:13:54.000They're really not concerned about giving people a voice.
02:14:03.000Do you have a social media you want to mention or anything?
02:14:05.000So Twitter is at RealRyanHartwig and then also on Instagram the same handle and then I'm also on Gab and Parlor and you can go to RyanHartwig.org is my domain.
02:14:51.000That's the point of the clips for the most part.
02:14:53.000You can be like, hey, here's a thing you need to see.
02:14:55.000And share with your friends if you think this stuff's important because we got a dude sitting right here basically saying, yeah, they're interfering in our elections, man.