On this episode of The Daily Caller, we discuss the chaos that is the Black Lives Matter protest in Washington, D.C. and how the mainstream media is covering it up. We also discuss the disappearance of a journalist who worked for BuzzFeed, and why he is now missing.
00:00:26.000And now we get a lot more information coming out on this guy, John Sullivan, who apparently now in leaked videos, he's cheering, we did it, we did it.
00:00:33.000He's with some other reporter or videographer.
00:00:35.000They actually got invited onto CNN to talk about what's happening.
00:00:38.000And I suppose they were claiming that they were just there in the capacity of filming.
00:00:43.000So Anderson Cooper has them on, and tell us what's happened.
00:00:46.000You've also got other news outlets that interviewed this guy.
00:00:48.000Now it turns out, after he's been arrested, I think he's been arrested, he's been charged, there's apparently evidence of him screaming, like, I got a knife, let's go, and, like, really getting into it, and people are being put off by it.
00:01:00.000Like, he's like, do it, do it, let's go, and we'll read some of his quotes, but, uh, This guy was propped up by CNN.
00:02:13.000Maybe we'll talk about aliens cause we have that pulled up as well, but then we have some, uh, You know, I don't know how relevant this news is to everybody, but considering we're talking about the Capitol and we're talking about who's getting arrested, we have a story on this personality who worked for BuzzFeed.
00:02:29.000His name's Baked Alaska, many of you probably know him.
00:02:31.000He jumped bail to go to DC and then he skipped his court appearance afterwards and apparently
00:03:11.000Yeah, you also, you did a documentary on the businesses that have been destroyed in California.
00:03:16.000Yeah, so we got a documentary on the restaurant industry just basically really struggling against big government, no help from the state, and me and Sonic here actually, you know, got to be on the ground and really tell those stories.
00:03:26.000So I know we'll get a little bit more into that, but really important story and we're just trying to focus on the average American again.
00:03:32.000Yeah, we're going to have fun ragging on California.
00:03:34.000I've got an article from a while back talking about all the failed policies of California, which we'll add into your experiences.
00:03:39.000But producer from The Daily Caller, Sagnik, you want to introduce yourself?
00:03:42.000Yeah, I'm Sagnik Basu, and I'm the producer for The Daily Caller.
00:03:45.000I decided to spend my holidays, you know, not being in the D.C.
00:03:48.000bubble and filming actual people in California who run local businesses and see what's up with them.
00:03:54.000And Jorge has been doing an amazing job on the field covering all these stories, so I just wanted to fly over, change course for a while, and shed actual light on these people.
00:04:03.000So we'll get into all of it, but just before we do, California, failed state?
00:04:09.000Failing for sure, definitely failing, definitely going downwards.
00:04:12.000People do not trust the people who rule over them and they can actually sense the fact that there's an aristocratic indifference from the people, from the governors.
00:04:23.000They realize that they don't really care and these lockdown measures not only make no sense, like banning outdoor dining, but on top of that when they see their Governor's like downing outside and stuff like that.
00:04:34.000There's like a different like there's like the hate just goes to a different dimension Yeah, and of course we got the one and only Lucret Caskey You know, you know some people say skid row is the new Main Street and I think it makes totally perfect sense Hi, I'm an independent journalist that produces content on the YouTube channel.
00:04:51.000We are change I am also a very very humble t-shirt vendor on we are change that org forward slash.
00:04:58.000You always got some crazy This one celebrates my emancipation from New York as I left it.
00:05:04.000This is the New York state flag but edited towards my kind of understanding of it and it says F this place and it has two of the people that are usually there running away.
00:05:16.000As I moved away from New York City and I will never come back to that Family-friendly show.
00:05:28.000Before we do, we now have TimCast.com set up, so if you haven't already, go to TimCast.com and become a member.
00:05:35.000We will have probably our first members-only post coming up probably tomorrow, and it's gonna be after we wrap up here.
00:05:41.000We've got some friends we're gonna hang out, and it's probably gonna be a bit ridiculous, so that'll be up for everybody who becomes a member.
00:05:48.000The reason I'm pushing so hard for this is because, as many of you may be aware, maybe not, Facebook recently terminated access to monetization for me.
00:05:55.000I've never cared for Facebook or relied on it heavily at all, and they've never actually paid me anything anyway, but it's the principle of the matter.
00:06:01.000I violated no rules, and they stripped me out of the program.
00:06:15.000So it was obvious at a certain point when we started putting the site together that we needed to create a base for the people who love the show and love the work we do.
00:06:24.000Because if we get the axe from YouTube or whatever, I want to at least try to keep things going.
00:06:28.000I know I often say that if I get banned, I'll just go down by the river.
00:06:31.000Well, you know, mostly true, but I'll at least try not to be entirely removed from the internet.
00:06:38.000So again, TimCast.com, sign up, become a member.
00:06:41.000But also, you'll notice if you go to the site, there's a shop button.
00:06:44.000When you click that, you'll be brought to a store where there now is a t-shirt which reads, I am a gorilla.
00:06:59.000It's been months since Alex Jones came here and told everyone that he was a gorilla and everybody really wanted the shirt or just this was the meme.
00:07:10.000So we're going to do a special edition very soon of him wearing a tinfoil hat that will only be available for like one week and then we're going to take it down.
00:07:35.000Federal prosecutors on Thursday announced charges against John Sullivan, a self-described left-wing activist who recorded the fatal police shooting of a Trump supporter inside the U.S.
00:07:44.000Sullivan, the founder of a group called Insurgents USA, which formed in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd, is charged with illegally entering the Capitol, civil disorder, and violent or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.
00:07:57.000Sullivan faces separate charges for rioting and criminal mischief in connection with an incident in Provo, Utah on June 30th where a person was shot and injured during a protest against police brutality.
00:08:06.000For those that aren't familiar, a car was driving down the road and some Black Lives Matter dude runs up and just shoots him for no reason.
00:08:17.000They say an FBI affidavit issued against Sullivan on Thursday cites comments he made on video he recorded during the Capitol breach.
00:08:25.000Sullivan told FBI agents as well as members of the media that he showed up at the Capitol to document the activities of Trump supporters who were protesting the results of the presidential election.
00:08:33.000But the FBI affidavit indicates Sullivan was acting more as an active participant in the riots than as a journalist.
00:09:53.000And so what she was saying, this journalist, is that she thinks he was trying to enrage the Trump supporters so that they would take out some action like this would be a catalyst or something.
00:10:03.000In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, hours after the fatal shooting, Sullivan acknowledged he was not a Trump supporter, but denied instigating the rioters who stormed the Capitol.
00:10:11.000I don't want to see people get hurt unnecessarily, he told Cooper.
00:10:15.000Some Trump supporters have pointed to Sullivan's presence in the Capitol to claim that left-wing activists have served as agent provocateurs, egging on Trump supporters to break into the Capitol and commit violence.
00:10:26.000I think that's confirmed at this point.
00:10:28.000And CNN did no vetting and put this guy on TV.
00:10:48.000I don't know if it was actually from the event, but it looks like it's him wearing a Trump hat.
00:10:53.000And he's talking about how he's infiltrating, and he's gonna play a role.
00:10:57.000It seems like maybe this dude's real intent was to rile up Trump supporters so that they would be falsely accused, or not falsely accused, but that's so that they would do something really bad, and then boom, right there on TV.
00:11:08.000Sure enough, he goes on CNN, and what does he say?
00:11:10.000Oh yeah, look at everything they were doing.
00:12:36.000It definitely highlights how horrible the mainstream media is, but also a lot of questions about, you know, what actually happened there.
00:12:42.000Of course, a lot of people are going to be espousing their theories, but it's also important to note that Ford Fisher just found a Twitter thread about this guy from Allegedly left-wing people in Seattle from November of last year talking about how people in the activist community in Seattle think that he might be an infiltrator or an agent provocateur.
00:13:05.000Those are the exact words from a thread going all the way back in November specifically about this same John Sullivan individual.
00:13:13.000So I got a thread from Max Blumenthal.
00:13:16.000Now, Max is a leftist, and he goes through this big thread about this guy, John Sullivan, saying that he was egging things on as it was happening.
00:13:26.000He says now he's at Exhibit A in right-wing claims that Antifa instigated the riot.
00:13:31.000But I think this is where the nuance comes in.
00:13:33.000I mean, this dude, John Sullivan, was rejected by Black Lives Matter, was rejected by even Antifa in Seattle.
00:13:40.000And here he is, On the ground, at the Capitol, pretending to be a Trump supporter or what?
00:13:56.000I mean, especially... But it could be that he's a leftist who organized, you know, this Provo protest for Black Lives Matter.
00:14:05.000Yeah, maybe he might be aggressive, and he may be a provocateur, but it definitely seems like he's a leftist.
00:14:11.000Yeah and it was odd too because I was even watching some news from Utah like their local news stations also were interviewing John like if he was like a field correspondent for someone so this whole thing is just odd how it happened but you know it's kind of funny because it's like us at The Daily Caller we've been covering riots the whole summer and CNN never never hit us up for an interview and you know want to know our perspective from the ground up.
00:14:33.000The funny thing is, when the New York Times labeled Richie a rioter, the correction they put out said, what did they say, a right-wing outlet or something?
00:14:39.000A right-wing, Daily Caller, a right-wing outlet.
00:14:43.000It's like, not only do you not concede the fact that you guys were wrong and misleading, Why don't they say left-wing reporter for like Jim Acosta, you know?
00:15:25.000That's the problem with mainstream media.
00:15:28.000They are so married to their narrative, it doesn't really matter what comes in weight.
00:15:33.000They're so married to the narrative that they'll put one of the people who stormed the Capitol and cheered it on, on the news, as a journalist!
00:15:41.000And then the New York Times will call the journalist a rioter.
00:15:43.000And you know what's the best part of it, Tim?
00:15:45.000Is CNN is not going to even update a story like, hey guys, we just interviewed a rioter.
00:15:53.000According to the FBI, the initial reports that I'm seeing right now, this John Sullivan allegedly told the police officers to stand down in the speaker's lobby.
00:16:01.000And then he, quote, agitated the crowd to attack the doors and windows when he filmed at the moment when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.
00:16:21.000There's a justice.gov document that I will... Here we go!
00:16:26.000In the FBI affidavit, they say, several times during the video, Sullivan encounters law enforcement officers who are trying to prevent further advancement through the building by those who entered unlawfully.
00:16:35.000In at least two encounters, Sullivan can be heard on video arguing with officers, telling them to stand down so that they do not get hurt.
00:16:42.000Among other things, Sullivan can be heard telling officers, you are putting yourself in harm's way.
00:16:46.000The people have spoken and there are too many people.
00:16:57.000And that's when, and that's when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.
00:17:00.000That's another important aspect here because he's inciting at the exact moment where it was the worst scenario that unfolded that could have gone very much more haywire.
00:17:10.000A lot more people could have got hurt.
00:17:11.000And we're extremely, extremely lucky that that situation just led to one death.
00:17:16.000Cause it, cause it could have easily, it could have easily led to a whole massacre and a whole disaster that luckily didn't happen.
00:17:26.000I don't think he really cares about much.
00:17:27.000I mean, reading about him, the left is like, nah, dude, look at this guy.
00:17:31.000And I'm kind of like, I'm seeing what they're saying.
00:18:24.000So when I hear about, you know, they're locking down D.C., like 20,000 National Guard or whatever, and they're going to shut down the National Mall.
00:18:31.000I think there's legit like threats because this is this stuff that's happening with the 6th, the Electoral College.
00:18:37.000That was Trump being like, let's go peacefully march.
00:18:40.000I imagine there's actual people who are fired up and crazy.
00:18:58.000And we had that letter that we talked about in yesterday's podcast about the military sending out notices that it was Joe Biden that won the election.
00:19:06.000It's not a contested election and now there's even a photo going around with one of the soldiers laying down and reading Atlas Shrugged inside of the Capitol that's getting the rounds on social media and people are betting how long it's gonna take for this soldier to be kicked out of the Capitol as there's Congress members demanding that the military there are vetted to make sure that they don't believe in Donald Trump and or our right-wingers.
00:19:31.000He read Atlas Shrugged, that confirms it.
00:19:34.000Somebody tweeted, there's a viral tweet, it was on Reddit too, it said, it says far right, it shows Kyle Rittenhouse, and then it says right, and it shows Nancy Pelosi, and it says center, and it's AOC.
00:19:47.000Then it says left, and it says, you know, leadership not found, and they were like, the Overton window has shifted so far to the right that there is no left leadership in this country.
00:19:55.000And it's like, bro, if you think AOC is a centrist, you need to, you need to turn the internet off.
00:20:02.000You need to just go outside for a couple of days and not go online, not read the news and just like, you know, do some chores.
00:20:08.000That's what, that's what goes to show like how much power the left has over the media.
00:20:11.000It's like, they have been able to shift the Overton window so efficiently and without people like noticing it, like they do it so gradually and it becomes like risky to say like normal things, which people used to believe in like two years ago.
00:20:26.000The reason why, this guy doesn't get it, the reason why there's no, in his mind, left leadership is because if you actually realign the Overton window properly, you can't go further left than Ocasio-Cortez.
00:20:38.000You can argue authoritarianism, libertarianism, you can argue her policies aren't effective enough or she's not an effective leader, but she's a literal socialist, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
00:20:49.000If we're talking about the economic scale, left versus right, she's a socialist.
00:20:53.000Socialism is literally the far left end of the spectrum, whereas laissez-faire capitalism is the far right.
00:20:58.000If she was, you know, like a social democrat, like Denmark, where you have a capitalist system, but a large welfare state, you could argue she's just a leftist.
00:21:21.000Like, intersectional, proposing bills on far left, ultra-woke, ultra-progressivism.
00:21:27.000I don't want to pretend like she's the furthest left possible because there's probably an argument there about what constitutes as far left as you can go, but when you're a socialist who is ultra-woke, you've got the cultural spectrum and the economic spectrum, and considering where she stands relative to everyone else in the country, she's probably the furthest left politician we actually have in office.
00:21:46.000Well, I was going to say, Tim, do you think that picture came from, because I know right now the progressive movement of the Democratic Party, they're really actually upset with the squad because they didn't do the force the vote on the Medicare for All.
00:23:27.000She's on the left, but from her perspective, she thinks that locking down Trump supporters or anyone who has worked in that government is okay.
00:23:36.000And the media allows that only because she's advocating that from the left.
00:23:40.000So authoritarianism doesn't matter because she's advocating it from the left-hand side of the aisle.
00:23:45.000And so I think the left fundamentally, many of these younger leftists don't understand what authoritarianism means versus libertarianism, freedom versus authority, the hierarchical control versus the decentralized system.
00:23:58.000AOC is definitely on the authoritarian scale.
00:24:01.000And so is Bernie Sanders for that matter.
00:24:02.000But they always show you this political compass that shows Bernie and AOC on libertarian left.
00:24:10.000You can't advocate for banning private insurance and call that libertarian.
00:24:14.000You can argue for voting for a cooperative system, like if you were to say, you know, even if you were to argue for universal health care, there's still an authority element in that.
00:24:24.000I wouldn't necessarily argue it's overly authoritarian, but when you follow it up with, and then we're going to take away from you, now you're in the authoritarian spectrum.
00:24:31.000You're taking from people, and then you're distributing it.
00:24:34.000Well, so it's a combination of the two, right?
00:24:39.000get universal health care. I would argue there's a path to that that is not authoritarian. It's
00:24:44.000very, very difficult because you're taking people's resources. You're by force, essentially.
00:24:48.000But if it's through a democratic process and a vote, then it's not authoritarian,
00:24:52.000but it's getting close to the line. Then coming afterwards and saying we want to ban what you have
00:24:57.000Okay, that's definitely the authority saying, I know what's better for you, and you're not allowed to choose.
00:25:04.000And the metric for that is like, if the means to your end involves government power, the way you're doing it is probably authoritarian.
00:25:11.000Well, they won't admit it, though, and that's why it's funny you see someone like Jimmy Dore.
00:25:15.000Jimmy Dore's libertarian left, and he wants universal health care, which is a cooperative system, and he wants them to challenge the machine, the powers, the establishment.
00:25:25.000He wants to challenge the authority system to, in his perspective, Force the authority to relinquish the power and then give it to the lower classes.
00:25:36.000That's like how the left often views what they're doing.
00:26:47.000Well, I would actually disagree with you guys, because when we look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's in government, she's a freshman, you know, congresswoman, so she's not doing that much, but culturally, she's doing a lot.
00:26:58.000When she's playing The Last of Us and she's espousing her ideas, when she's going on Twitter, when she's going and ranting on livestream, she gets millions of views and everyone's listening to her, and she's the kind of new thought leader Of the left promoting authoritarianism and making it trendy it's trendy that the big corporations control everything it's trendy and cool that that there's someone that will punish the bad guy whoever that bad guy may be at any moment in time based on our narrative that changes and is absolutely bipolar so so that in that aspect we have to understand.
00:27:29.000Huge, huge power and influence that hasn't been tested, hasn't been challenged effectively at all, in my opinion.
00:27:36.000There's a nuanced argument, I would say, to say that she's not a leftist, in that she's just a tribal leftist.
00:27:42.000Meaning, she says things that will get her clicks, get her more followers, and it works.
00:27:48.000It's really easy to go to someone and say, vote for me and I'll fight for you.
00:28:09.000They're so screwed over by the government.
00:28:11.000I mean, when we look at the actual issues that are affecting us, failing wages, the deindustrialization, the lack of jobs, the lack of ability to actually have economic mobility in the United States, people are so poor.
00:28:23.000People are so downtrodden that they're like, Yeah, I'll take it.
00:28:30.000And of course, as someone who doesn't believe in government, there was still, I have to admit this, a lot of individuals where that $2,000 would have actually made a big difference in people's lives.
00:28:40.000That would have been so important for them.
00:28:54.000But look, I just want to touch what you said.
00:28:57.000I think after the experience with me and Sonic in California, like talking to the restaurant industry, it's like, when we're there, it's like, we could see these folks need the $2,000.
00:29:58.000But don't worry, if you vote for us, we'll fix it for you.
00:30:01.000And they're going to make a lot worse by devaluing your dollar, collapsing the economy.
00:30:06.000And then the price of your daily items at the grocery store will go up dramatically and you won't be able to afford to live.
00:30:12.000The medical industry is already rigged.
00:30:14.000It's even going to be more rigged with companies like Amazon coming into the play here as they're trying to get control of the healthcare market now as Amazon just recently teamed up with Warren Buffett with Berkshire and Jamie Diamond of JP Morgan to launch a new healthcare company.
00:30:31.000So when you look at this kind of megalo, like, monopoly, huge conglomerate of a glob that is Amazon, they've taken over the book business, they're taking over their online retail business, they're taking over all the lucrative government contracts, they're taking over grocery stores, and now they're trying to take over the health industry.
00:30:50.000But Luke, it's okay, because they tweet Black Lives Matter, Luke, it's okay.
00:30:54.000Hold on, hold on, let me stop you guys.
00:31:41.000That's the future we're going to head towards, where there's one massive... I'm joking for those that people haven't gotten through the facetiousness, but the point I'm making is they're hyper-monopolizing everything into single sources for everything, where they will be the provider, and then I want you to think about what that future has in store for you.
00:31:59.000When you get banned by app, you can't order food, you can't use your map, you're done.
00:32:04.000Imagine if Apple banned you from their iPhone, iOS.
00:32:53.000And then not only that, Tim, we also have to think about the influence of the Washington Post, because now journalists who are dying to get to the washington post they're never gonna
00:33:01.000investigate amazon they're never gonna
00:33:03.000report on amazon truthfully because they wanna they want that washington post job too so then
00:33:07.000you make other companies, all these other media and journalists kind of just bend over to you
00:33:10.000without even having to be at the washington post either so that's
00:33:13.000something that plays a role too that's why the trump news cycle dominated for so long
00:33:16.000because it was not a threat to the establishment
00:33:19.000but it gave them this like narrative that they were fighting the machine
00:34:05.000And if politics is downstream from culture, trust me, man, give it 15 years and AOC is going to be considered, they're going to call her conservative.
00:34:13.000She's going to be considered a moderate Democrat by the time she's like, you know, in her 50s or 60s.
00:34:16.000So like, you don't think, you don't think that she actually believes the things she sounds like right now?
00:34:44.000And you know, it's a conservative's fault in a lot of ways.
00:34:46.000I've had so many arguments with conservatives about big tech censorship over the past several years.
00:34:50.000I remember once, when I was in Milwaukee, I was talking to this guy and I said, we need to regulate big tech.
00:34:55.000to protect freedom of speech, and he argued with me.
00:34:57.000And I was like, dude, if you want to sit here and argue with me that we shouldn't regulate these companies when I'm like the liberal arguing for this, I'm just going to agree with you.
00:35:05.000It's not my ideology getting purged from the internet.
00:35:08.000So by the time you've figured out what's happening to your ideas and your ideology and your politics, you'll be long gone, and I'll have been fighting to preserve my politics and what I believe in.
00:35:20.000So if you're not smart enough to realize what's happening, then maybe your ideas don't deserve to exist anyway.
00:35:27.000Yeah, hey, Jack Dorsey's more powerful than the President of the United States.
00:35:31.000The good thing is, I don't know if it's a good thing, but I think it's an interesting concept is how these other countries are now waking up to this concept of what's social media in the United States and just kind of that reach between social media and then big government here in the United States.
00:35:44.000Now other countries are like, wait a minute, when it comes to election time, We should be banning the, we should be banning the Facebook and the Twitter.
00:35:51.000And they saw like this, if this American app can like ban their own president, we won't let Jack Dorsey dictate what happens in our country, in our democracy.
00:35:59.000Really quick, before you go, just, just a funny, it was a daily, we have a guy named Logan Hall with the Daily Caller and he tweeted, he's like, he's like, Hey Facebook, why don't you, why don't you go build your own country?
00:36:10.000I said, why don't you build your own Uganda?
00:36:14.000I don't know if we should maybe pull this up, but the Mexican president just announced that he's going to be mounting an international campaign against social media bans.
00:36:24.000So the Mexican president right now is saying that the first thing he's going to do at the next upcoming G20 meetings is to organize a proposal This is interesting stuff, dude.
00:36:33.000course make sure that social media companies cannot suspend ...
00:36:37.000freedom of expression and he's actively fighting for I never ...
00:36:41.000thought I would I would ever say this the Mexican president ...
00:36:45.000is actively fighting for the speech of Donald Trump.
00:37:07.000I heard James O'Keefe puts up this video and he says, we got a recording of Jack Dorsey speaking.
00:37:13.000And I said, man, I wish it was just Jack Dorsey literally sitting there with his real voice going, now we're going to ban all of the conservatives and they'll never speak again!
00:37:25.000So it's really just him going, so we're focused on this one account and, you know, what we're seeing with these other accounts, like QAnon, it's not going to stop anytime soon, but right now we're focused on this one account.
00:37:52.000Jack is exactly like he is, exactly like he speaks, and it's the banality of evil.
00:37:57.000It's him going there being like, we're doing the right thing to prevent violence by silencing 74 million people who are extremely angry right now.
00:38:03.000And I know that they just stormed the Capitol and they were all extremely angry and there was several people who died.
00:38:08.000And I think it's the appropriate thing to make them angrier and prove everything they believed is true.
00:38:15.000Well, Tim, I want to ask you, when you did the whole thing when, you know, Joe Rogan had you on and you just kind of, like, came on and just pressed Jack, did you leave that podcast and was like, hey, I think this guy might fake some things, I think he, like, considers some of the things we're saying, or were you just like, no, he's an oligarch and it is what it is?
00:38:31.000Cause we were talking about blockchain technology and you know, there was talk about, I don't know if we talked about it on the show, there was talk about creating a social media network on the blockchain so you can never ban anyone.
00:38:42.000And I was like, dude, that's nightmarish.
00:38:51.000So I'm like, you know, people need, but maybe that would actually not that bad of a thing because if everybody was forced to realize we've all been dumb kids saying dumb things.
00:40:56.000I've seen really good trolls, but he really knows how to make people's brains crack.
00:41:00.000And so, I just put out tweets that I think are funny, and I don't think about it anymore.
00:41:04.000Maybe that is part of the problem, though, because then a ton of people are like, yeah, but then I'm gonna follow you because you say funny things, and then people react because they're dumb.
00:41:44.000And then I remember, this is back in 2011, getting the first super stressful anxiety from seeing like 30 tweets where they were like, Tim Poole's a fag, he's a cop.
00:42:27.000and certain journalists. So I should probably still have it.
00:42:30.000And that's when I flipped to just like just posting nonsense for fun.
00:42:34.000Well, the sad thing is a lot of people are obsessed with it and it's their entire existence
00:42:39.000and it's also their entire identity. And when you see individuals like that, it's like,
00:42:44.000okay. I mean, and then we also have to understand the other spectrum here.
00:42:48.000Your emotions could be manipulated by bots or by fake government sock puppet accounts that could manipulate your feelings and emotions based on what they say.
00:42:56.000That's why I think it's really smart what you did with your website, trying to get your kind of crowd on your platform where you have contacts with them.
00:43:03.000That's one of the reasons I've been Setting up a similar system and collecting emails on wearechange.org because I understand that once I have the actual context, once I have one-on-one communication with my audience, I could open up the comments.
00:43:17.000I could have an honest conversation that there is no middle person and I think we need to tell people to do this more and more.
00:43:24.000Make sure there's no middle person standing in the ground that could decide what you get to hear, who you get to talk to, Because when you look at the algorithms, they are programmed for a specific outcome.
00:43:36.000But once you got one-on-one email communication, email still could be rigged in many different ways, especially with the spam box.
00:43:41.000But it's, in my opinion, one of the best things we have right now, and we should really be taking advantage of it.
00:43:54.000And we're really close to getting that gold medal.
00:43:55.000But I got two other channels over a million.
00:43:57.000So there's probably some overlap, you know, some people subscribe to all three, but there really are a lot of people who aren't, who are subscribed to only one or the other.
00:44:03.000Then I got, you know, 790,000 or so on Twitter, and I'm like, man, if I could get just 10,000 people giving 10 bucks a month, we would not have to worry about any of the censorship.
00:44:16.000Out of the millions of people, just 10,000 people.
00:44:19.000I mean, man, for that matter, even if it was just 5,000 people, that's crazy.
00:44:27.000They do it and they do it really easily.
00:44:29.000That's why some of the biggest podcasts in the world, I'm not going to name any of them, but they make like, they're making like 150K on subscribers every month.
00:44:37.000And I see that and I'm like, they don't care about what they say because they know they're directly funded by the people who like their content.
00:44:44.000Whereas I made the mistake of just doing a traditional ad model, which means if I get nuked, business over.
00:44:52.000I should have done it a long time ago.
00:44:54.000And now we really got to start pushing it and making that the core function of what we do.
00:44:57.000Because if you're, you're, you're, you're better off with 10,000 dedicated fans giving 10 bucks a month, because then you can, you can really run a business with that kind of money.
00:45:06.000Yeah, when YouTube demonetized me at first, I was like, oh my god, I'm going to lose all my money.
00:45:21.000And again, people need to understand one thing that you bring up is this extremely important point that you as the individual watching right now have the ultimate power to decide With your attention, with your votes, with your dollars, with your clicks, what prevails?
00:45:36.000If you want the nonsense to prevail, you're going to focus on the nonsense and give your energy and time and focus on that nonsense.
00:45:43.000If you want good things to prevail, you're going to make sure those good things do prevail by investing in them with your time.
00:45:49.000We used to do, uh, when I used to do fundraising, they would have these little gimmicks where they'd be like, it's 10 bucks a month, not even a cup of coffee every day.
00:46:46.000You know, hurt my ability to follow the news.
00:46:48.000So why bother even contributing to the noise?
00:46:50.000So, like, do you, like, given the fact that the subscription model and this ad model is getting more popular with, like, people on the left and people on the right, do you think, like, the concept of, like, the public square is gonna be, like, outdated or is, like, even overrated for some people?
00:47:37.000Do you think that was like the guilt for them?
00:47:39.000Like, yeah, we did not... We, the fact that we covered the WikiLeaks story and all this, like, gave credence to this guy and now he's in, like, the president's seat.
00:47:55.000So like when he went on the Joe Rogan podcast, it was aptly and accurately pointed out by many conservatives.
00:48:00.000They were like, why are four liberals sitting in a room talking about banning conservatives and two liberals are defending conservatives instead of having the conservatives actually in the defend themselves?
00:48:38.000So he's like, when he hears a conservative say, I think, you know, he'll hear a conservative say, we need to have better border security to make sure that we can protect our jobs, he goes, a Nazi!
00:48:47.000It's like, actually, that's most of the country, but you live in a bubble.
00:49:48.000And then we're seeing it right after January 6th.
00:49:52.000Instagram actually started deleting a lot of photojournalists, like a lot of their posts just from the 6th.
00:49:57.000So now if you just report the news, like straight news... That's what happened to me, dude.
00:50:00.000You're now going to get shadowbanned, censored, you're going to get warnings, you're going to get all this stuff deleted.
00:50:05.000So, first it starts off with Trump, and then we're just going to start moving into the people who just do straight news.
00:50:10.000Like, people that I literally just do news, I'll see them get their stuff nuked on Instagram, Facebook, and then we're going to see it on Twitter too.
00:50:17.000I mean this is just it's horrible I mean the thing is for me is it's easy I would love to be in a position to be like I want to delete Twitter but I'm still on the on the up-and-coming where I need Twitter for the type of work that I do you know field correspondent journalism so very tough spot for people like me right now and it's just like well you know what do we do at this point?
00:50:32.000But you don't have to contribute to, like, the core of what's causing Twitter to be a problem.
00:50:38.000You can post news, you can follow news.
00:50:41.000I'm talking about, you know, when I tweet jokes or trolling, it gives people a reason to use the platform.
00:50:47.000So for me, I'm kind of like, maybe I should just use it as a business vehicle of reading what people are talking about.
00:50:53.000You know, I used to do segments where I would see someone, like, do a Twitter thread, and then I would argue a little bit, and I was just like, I don't care about these people.
00:51:01.000I don't care about taking some verified blue check with a million followers and then doing a video where I'm like, well, here's why they're wrong.
00:51:07.000Maybe sometimes, but I've tried to get away from a lot of that stuff and just keep the focus of the news.
00:51:11.000And I think the more we keep our addictions to Twitter for whatever reason, then, you know, it's just going to keep this, this, it's going to keep dominating the system.
00:51:18.000And it's, it's our collective voices using the platform that gives Jack Dorsey the power to decide what the culture is going to be in the next decade or so.
00:51:27.000And every year it gets a little bit, like from my perspective, every year it's getting worse on Twitter because last year, one thing that I was able to, not me, like report on a lot, but I was able to use my platform to communicate with these journalists is, last year, and it's still the problem now, is the problem with the Mexican cartels in Mexico.
00:51:47.000So one thing that I was able to discover with Twitter is Twitter actually, at least last year, they were letting a lot of those videos just flow on and we were able to show the American audience like, hey, this is what goes on in Mexico with the cartels and stuff.
00:51:58.000But then as soon as the new year started, they banned all these like violence videos, which I get.
00:52:23.000And as soon as 2020 started, they don't even let that stuff fly.
00:52:26.000So it's like now we can't even inform the public of like these real situations in these countries too.
00:52:30.000Well, another thing you really need to understand here is that they're ruling with fear.
00:52:34.000They're setting up this chilling effect.
00:52:36.000Look, innocent people got hit who just report on the news, they get taken away.
00:52:41.000And I wouldn't be surprised if potentially, this is just my theory, Jack Dorsey released that video himself to set up this chilling effect saying, you better behave, you better do what we say, you better censor yourself, or we're gonna totally cut you off because more cuts are coming.
00:52:56.000And they knew what they were doing because when we look at the onset of like, Google and Google Video, YouTube, BlipTV, whatever.
00:53:04.000It was first new kind of software, new systems, new websites that were very kind of out there in the open.
00:53:11.000If you liked the video, if you subscribe to a channel, you would actually see the channel.
00:53:16.000The channels that were most viewed were listed.
00:53:19.000Of course, a lot of anti-establishment, anti-corporate, dominant stuff came up, and it scared the other bejesus out of people.
00:53:28.000And they were like crack dealers, because that little whiff of freedom was a little crack.
00:53:32.000You know, in New York City, when I grew up, crack dealers would give crack to people who were downtrodden, so they get for free at first.
00:53:39.000They would get downtrodden, they would take the crack, then they would become crackheads and customers that they would, of course, Yeah, they always had the free samples for a reason.
00:53:49.000They did the same thing with social media and that's why some people akin social media addiction to alcoholism even.
00:53:57.000There's been some studies showing that it could be even more severe than chemical dependency.
00:54:02.000Your link to this cyborg machine that is literally programmed to keep you addicted to it as they even work with gambling institutions to try to gamify everything so you're stuck into the gaze blindly looking giving away your soul to it that's why they never got rid of follower count or retweet count they talked about it and they never did and the reason is they know
00:54:26.000What drives people to use Twitter is earning points.
00:56:34.000And I've actually interviewed him in the past.
00:56:37.000He was associated with right-wing groups, and then alt-right groups, and then argued that he wasn't alt-right, and then it goes back and forth, but the reality is, I think what we've learned from his time at BuzzFeed, his attempt at being a rapper, is that he's actually just driven to get likes.
00:56:50.000He's driven to get attention on social media, and I think his story, and everything this guy's done, he's filming himself, storming the Capitol.
00:56:59.000He's pointing the camera and he's like, Trump's going to be really happy with us.
00:57:02.000And he picks up Pelosi's phone or whatever, and he's making jokes.
00:57:14.000He made a YouTube video where he hired black men.
00:57:18.000to vandalize a car with Trump support, like Trump merchandise in it.
00:57:21.000And what he did was, he was like, I'm gonna leave this car with Trump supporter stuff in it in this neighborhood and see what happens.
00:57:27.000And the next scene is black men damaging the vehicle.
00:57:30.000Somebody in the apartment above filmed it and saw what Joey had done.
00:57:36.000And then right when he released the video, sent the footage to I think H3H3 and then busted him staging this attack, which was, and many people said it was racist or fueling racism, whatever you wanna call it.
00:57:52.000Most people just don't give him a chance at redemption, but I've always said, if you don't at least let someone try to do better, they won't.
00:57:59.000So I had a conversation with him and what he said to me and what he said to many other people is that he didn't realize how far he had gone in making this content and chasing after the money and the views.
00:58:09.000Now you look at someone like Baked Alaska, he's got no limit.
00:58:12.000It's all about the next one-up to get that hit, to make that money, to get those likes, to get that traffic.
00:58:17.000And then he winds up... Listen, here's the story.
00:58:50.000And I don't think BuzzFeed gets to absolve themselves of the responsibility of what they created in this dude.
00:58:57.000Well, if you look at the inner workings of BuzzFeed, they actually have entire walls dedicated to how many likes, how many hits an article gets.
00:59:30.000I think he was already like that because even before the whole capital thing, I would actually see some of his videos just on Twitter with the circulating.
00:59:36.000It'll just be him walking into like a grocery store with no mask.
00:59:38.000And then people would tell him to wear a mask and then he'll tell him like to F off or whatever.
00:59:41.000The BuzzFeed stuff was years and years and years ago.
00:59:44.000Nobody knew who he was when he worked at BuzzFeed.
01:00:00.000They say a Scottsdale judge issued a warrant for the arrest of far-right social media personality Tim Baked Alaska Giannette after he said Giannette violated conditions of his release by leaving the state last week to go to Washington, where he apparently live-streamed the U.S.
01:00:15.000Jeanette already was facing misdemeanor charges of assault, disorderly conduct, and criminal trespass in Scottsdale City Court after police alleged she refused to leave a bar and then pepper sprayed an employee.
01:00:26.000He had been released in that case with the agreement he not leave the state without the court's permission.
01:00:59.000He is, look, I remember when he was posting these, like, ironic Nazi jokes on Twitter, and then he, I interviewed him, and he said, look, it was just supposed to be edgy, and it was supposed to trigger the left who was freaking out, and it was a mistake, and I was like, okay, and then he does it again, and again, and again, and then he gets banned.
01:01:14.000He had, like, 250,000 followers on Twitter.
01:01:29.000I tell you, man, when you're an addict and you are chasing after that hit, I don't care if it's social media or drugs, this dude is now a fugitive from the law.
01:01:38.000Isn't it crazy how, like, we talk about social media being addictive, how you guys are mentioning that.
01:01:43.000Luke, you said it was like alcoholism.
01:04:30.000I don't, I don't, it wasn't in America, but there was this phenomenon that happened on YouTube where bots figured out what was getting clicks and created these insane videos of like, you'd see these cartoon thumbnails of like a guy drinking out of a urinal.
01:05:13.000I have left-wing friends who think that... I don't even want to get into the conspiracy stuff they believe, but it's like... You've heard of QAnon, you know why?
01:05:23.000And they go, haha, look how dumb the right-wingers are.
01:05:26.000But the right doesn't point the finger at the fringe conspiracies of the left and the things they believe.
01:05:32.000Probably because that's not what the conservatives do.
01:05:34.000They're focused on government, they're focused on seats of power.
01:05:36.000But because the media is focused on this threat of QAnon, they don't talk about the left and the unhinged and insane conspiracies.
01:05:44.000Like, we got a glimpse of it when MSNBC ran a segment where they claimed that Donald Trump was a Soviet KGB asset.
01:05:53.000The Soviet Union, no joke, from the 80s.
01:05:56.000They actually had a guy on and said, we got to consider that Trump may have been maybe an asset of Russia's going back to the 80s when they were part of the Soviet Union, dude.
01:06:05.000I tell you, man, I'm not going to name some of these people because they got a lot of followers, hundreds of thousands.
01:06:10.000They've been on Twitter the entire time.
01:06:13.000saying insane things well beyond what Q says.
01:06:16.000So you hear about this QAnon stuff, and they'll be like, the Nighthawk is driving, and Silver Fox is gonna launch the missile, and then we're gonna see the indictments, and it's like, it means nothing.
01:06:26.000And then you look at some of these people on the left, and they're like, murmurs are happening now at the DOJ, you know, they're turning, they're revolting, the Deep State is going to put, you know, Bannon on trial for treason, and he's gonna be executed.
01:06:42.000Well the mainstream media is now telling us that the biggest threat for our democracy for our existence are people's individual political opinion when in reality the threat is the social media it's leading people to hurt people it's leading people to exploit people it's leading people to break the laws and just in those particular instances that we noted here there's so many more there's there was a case in Indonesia where people were taking puppies And putting them in horrible predicament and then rescuing them and it was always the same puppy being rescued after his place there and they were manipulating the algorithm which that was incentivized promoted by YouTube just right now when you talked about that vaccine case I remember seeing on my on my newsfeed looking up you know stories
01:07:22.000For this particular podcast, I've seen a vaccine proposal.
01:07:25.000Someone getting a vaccine and proposing on social media to get the likes and attention.
01:07:30.000So when we look at the bigger threat towards our existence, it's not people who say stuff on social media that you may not like.
01:07:37.000It is social media that is the existential threat against humanity.
01:09:39.000So I'm telling you, man, these people, these journalists, are literally the Randall Weems of the world.
01:09:45.000We were all having fun during recess, playing kickball.
01:09:47.000Some of us were really good at it, some of us were bad at it.
01:09:50.000Some of us were the weird loner kids who were hanging out, minding our own business, or you were the kid playing Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, and skateboarding.
01:09:56.000But he was the... These journalists were the nasty little tattletales who were always sucking up to the teacher and just getting in everyone's way and everybody hated them.
01:10:05.000I wonder if you all know the kind of person I'm talking about, and you can think like, oh man, I remember that kid.
01:10:14.000i think it's a little bit of a thing which all of our dark so much all of our
01:10:19.000dark seems to me that only that only are the uh... media matters are journalists
01:10:22.000playing playing the uh... the snitch wrote but the journals now are playing
01:10:26.000the p r or where exactly where it now a politician would say something images
01:10:30.000Like what happened to us holding the powerful accountable, now that we just do PR for them.
01:10:36.000I'm not going to say the MSNBC's host name, but as soon as Biden got elected, she went on Twitter and said, this is a great day for America.
01:10:43.000We finally have a president who doesn't lie.
01:12:55.000In a video on one of her daughter's tweets, Therese Duke could be seen arguing with a police officer.
01:13:01.000Another tweet featured photos of all three of her family members inside the Capitol along with their names.
01:13:06.000Hi, this is the liberal lesbian of the family who has been kicked out multiple times for her views and for going to BLM protests to care what happens to me.
01:14:13.000That's still kind of like, man, it's a tough question, but blood is thicker than water.
01:14:18.000There are challenges though, sometimes doing the right thing and holding those within your own groups and your own family accountable when they do something very seriously wrong.
01:14:25.000It's another thing to post on Twitter.
01:15:03.000And I think it's fair to say that this person wouldn't do this if she wasn't incentivized to get likes and tweets and responses.
01:15:12.000Now, of course, it's also fair to say we don't know the exact relationship they had with their mother or their father.
01:15:19.000So it's not that, you know, we can't judge here because we don't know what happened back and forth, but for it to end up at this stage where it's this public and this nasty and the media celebrating it by highlighting it and talking about it and this being incentivized in the algorithm, it's something that's, you know, awfully wrong in my opinion.
01:15:40.000It is the twisted nature of social media and the current media ecosystem.
01:15:43.000Look at what happened with What's-Her-Face's daughter.
01:16:35.000I also like thinking from their point of view, like the kid's point of view to what Luke said, it's like the sense of community they get from social media is way more important than their own family.
01:16:45.000Which I think is like the sadder and the more grave part.
01:16:48.000Like in no wall, I would like think about the fact that, oh, Twitter can replace my family, let alone the fact that I would make money off of it.
01:16:55.000Yep, so that's the more concerning part.
01:16:57.000It's the GoFundMe, it's the PayPal post, it's the raising money.
01:17:00.000It's the interviews that she gets with these media heads.
01:17:03.000I think she already did an interview with Good Morning America.
01:18:31.000If protecting your family provides certain resources for you to survive, and selling them out provides more, you can see what some people are willing to do to get that.
01:18:56.000If you're for this cause, nothing else matters.
01:18:59.000Well, in 1984, you know, the fictional book, they indoctrinated the children to be the snitch squads, making sure that they would get all the adults in trouble for wrong think.
01:19:09.000And when you look at the parallels, I mean, I think there's some, I mean, I don't want to be hyperbolic.
01:19:14.000Obviously, there's not an exact comparison, but there's definitely a slippery slope that we're heading towards, especially giving all of our power up to these tech billionaire Giants that are unaccountable, do whatever they want, and control the sphere of conversation.
01:19:30.000But not only the conversation, also thought.
01:19:32.000When you have that important aspect of controlling what people can and cannot think, what they can and cannot see, you have emperor god-like powers that could influence children in the most awful God has forgiven ways that you can't even imagine.
01:20:37.000They were talking about how people started developing a culture on Twitter.
01:20:40.000Like the idea of the at symbol was created by users who were trying to make it so when you'd search, you'd see you could search at someone's name.
01:20:48.000And the hashtag was originally so that if you wanted to find the conversation about it, if you search for just the word, you'll get everything.
01:20:54.000If you search for the hashtag, you get conversations.
01:20:56.000So then Twitter is like, oh, we'll incorporate this.
01:20:59.000Before you could click the retweet button, people would just copy and paste and then put RT and then call it.
01:21:06.000Or they would do MT for modified tweet.
01:21:09.000I remember that because as far as I've, you know, since I've used Twitter, they've always had the retweet function, but people still did RT and MT to like share things.
01:21:17.000And there's also like, Instagram still doesn't have this stuff.
01:21:20.000So their perspective is, we didn't do it.
01:23:17.000It's old data, and my numbers aren't completely accurate, but it's like around 30 is when they finally get out of debt and start accruing wealth.
01:23:25.000So these people, they're not having kids, they're not having families, they're not making money.
01:23:49.000Or are you just gonna sit there wasting away?
01:23:51.000And another factor too, Tim, I think what we're seeing with this pandemic and something that we've already been seeing with the millennial trend is we're actually gonna see less families with the millennials.
01:24:00.000So we're not gonna have that structured family, mom and dad.
01:24:03.000At home, working, and just having that.
01:24:06.000I think we're not even going to have that.
01:24:07.000So I would expect as we kind of keep going on that crime is going to keep going up.
01:24:11.000Maybe people are getting married less.
01:25:37.000They're going to find a way, and they're going to find their own parallel economy to make money.
01:25:42.000Cryptocurrency could maybe help, but that just leads us to this reality where you're going to have blue states saying, we don't want to work with you, and red states saying, it's fine.
01:26:10.000So we're seeing the ideological divide is getting worse geographically now, and we're probably getting to that point where things are going to fall apart.
01:26:18.000So, in that sense, speaking of things falling apart, you guys went to California.
01:26:24.000I have this story here from USA Today.
01:26:26.000They say, California is a failed state.
01:26:32.000This story is from August 31st, but they say a few things I want to highlight before we talk about what you guys did, because you guys went and actually talked to business owners and people have been impacted by the failed policies of California.
01:26:42.000They say, California's energy policies have failed.
01:26:45.000They say, so have those policies to stop homelessness.
01:27:25.000And, you know, being here and, you know, covering politics in D.C., you do, even though I always hated myself for it, you do get stuck in kind of like a D.C.
01:27:34.000You know, you forget how bad the pandemic is for the rest of America.
01:27:54.000Do you know the unemployment rate right now in California?
01:27:57.000I don't know the unemployment rate, but as of right now, we do have 17% of restaurants across the U.S., so about 110 establishments are closed permanently.
01:28:10.000So being in California, I started talking to the restaurant owners about the Outdoor Dining Bank, just how they're doing.
01:28:15.000So as soon as I started interviewing, Um, these restaurant owners, it was powerful stuff.
01:28:19.000Like they would be crying in my face saying, Hey Jorge, on Thanksgiving week, we get the news of the outdoor dining ban.
01:28:25.000We have to now lay off the majority of our staff.
01:28:27.000And it's like, and what they made me realize too, is like, we're not just laying off workers.
01:28:31.000These are families that, you know, these people have to put food on the table.
01:28:34.000and also kind of being in this project I got to learn that a lot of these couples, both of the
01:28:39.000couples would be in the restaurant industry. So now you have two servers now let go, no help from
01:28:43.000the government, and at the same time since they're in the working class their kids are at home all
01:28:48.000day on Zoom, their kids depression is up. So it's just this horrible thing and so Sonic came down
01:28:54.000and we were able to really focus in on these American stories because like a lot of these
01:28:57.000restaurant owners feel like they've been left behind.
01:28:59.000Not only that, another aspect is they spent thousands of thousands of dollars on outdoor dining and just accommodating to California's crazy rules.
01:29:14.000These people were told, we're shutting down indoor dining.
01:29:17.000So they spend tons of money to set up outdoor dining.
01:29:19.000And then as soon as they do, they go, ah, that's ban too.
01:29:22.000Not only that, Tim, the crazy thing is the breweries in L.A.
01:29:26.000County, they couldn't serve outdoors unless they had a kitchen.
01:29:31.000So I was able to interview one brewer who spent $100,000 on a kitchen just to serve outdoors, only for two weeks later the county said, nope, done.
01:29:41.000So you have this massive brewery stuck on take out beers it's impossible and it's just heartbreaking to hear the owner say we love this business and we don't want to let people go but at this point what what can we do we're putting this tough corner so the beautiful thing was is that you know me and signing really got to document these stories tell these people's stories and when we put a documentary together is a we we released it actually today so it's on daily caller um check it out we worked really hard on it and
01:30:07.000It really meant a lot to the restaurant industry because for them they feel like they don't have a voice.
01:30:12.000But this is the kind of thing you gotta send to your friends who don't believe you.
01:30:15.000The people who think everything's fine or that we're not facing serious trouble.
01:30:19.000Let them hear in the words of the people who actually had their lives destroyed.
01:30:23.000When you talk to these people, one thing you realize is that people in DC or people in New York or people who are in the media, they have given people this easily digestible pill which is like a Single variable way of thinking.
01:30:35.000Like during this pandemic the only thing we have to consider is life saved versus life not saved.
01:30:39.000Like the only thing you need to worry about is saving lives.
01:30:41.000They don't consider the fact that these people who run these bars, who run these restaurants, they have lives too.
01:30:48.000Like if you like close them and then you say like oh yes we are saving lives.
01:31:02.000That's one factor about it, and the second factor is, like, the hypocrisy.
01:31:06.000Like, if you, like, drive, like, 10 minutes away from these restaurants, you walk into Target, where people are crowded in, like, gajillion numbers, especially during, like, holiday seasons, and that's, like, literally in front of these people.
01:31:17.000Like, you can, like, look out of their restaurants, which are closed, and you see these, like, like, Target packed, and they realize that these Like, lockdown measures do not make any sense whatsoever, and the fact that it's so blatant is, like, insulting to them.
01:31:31.000You know, I think it might be a red pill for a lot of these small businesses.
01:31:42.000Yeah, look, we don't know what's gonna happen.
01:31:44.000Either that or people who have the resources to leave will leave.
01:31:48.000But unfortunately, these people do not have the resources to leave.
01:31:51.000They have poured their life's savings into creating something out of nothing and hiring people.
01:31:57.000And once you have that mentality, which is like, okay, my job is to be responsible to put food on other people's table, like my waiters, my chefs, You're living a different life.
01:32:08.000You're not living a life of a staff writer in the New York Times who lives in a pod and whose only job is to write.
01:32:17.000People do not empathize with these people easily and the media has done a horrible job of translating that.
01:32:23.000Because the journalists are like that Randall character, they're snitches.
01:32:28.000They're not going to come out and be like, oh, you poor restaurant owner.
01:32:30.000No, we already saw one story where there was a business, they set up, they had a walkway, and they put a tent over it and put tables there so that people could use their public walkways and outdoor dining.
01:32:40.000And the journalist snitched on them and said, we need to inform New York they're doing this.
01:32:44.000Yeah, and the interesting thing too, Tim, is in California, you know, I've grown up there my whole life, but when I was growing up in the early 90s, you know, California was a state where everyone in around the country was moving to the golden state.
01:32:57.000You know, you wanted to be in California.
01:32:58.000I remember when I was growing up, you know, my dad is an immigrant from El Salvador.
01:33:22.000And the rich, it's all good for the actors and everyone else.
01:33:24.000So I, in the documentary too, I say, you know, this is the golden state.
01:33:28.000It's now only golden for the elites and everyone else is left behind.
01:33:31.000One of the more powerful interviews that I got, Tim, is I interviewed a owner of a pizza restaurant.
01:33:36.000And when we spoke about the Gavin Newsom situation, she was just crying in my face saying it's an absolutely slap in the face for him to be able to eat in the French laundry indoors while I have to lay off my employees who are literally making like 13 bucks an hour.
01:33:49.000You know some of these folks are surviving on like 120 bucks a week Tim.
01:33:55.000It's honestly some of the saddest saddest things that we're seeing and we're just trying to focus on these stories because it just feels like the average American story is not getting told and you know I think it was a blessing for me to get out of that DC bubble and to see it and say you know what this is what I need to really be focused on is telling these stories and the next project we'll be working on and we don't want to get too much into but we're going to be interviewing parents and they're going to be talking to me about You know their kids going through this depression uh indoors.
01:34:18.000I um you know I put out a tweet saying hey parents reach out to me and Tim I got over a hundred messages and this is kind of the sentiment of these messages saying hey I had an eight-year-old a ten-year-old twelve-year-old they were all A's athletic now into the pandemic all F's social anxiety doesn't want to talk to me.
01:34:34.000I'm speaking to a dad right now where his son grabbed his gun because he fell into depression during this COVID lockdown 12 years old He shot himself in the mouth trying to kill himself.
01:34:42.000But the way he shot it, thank God he's in stable condition.
01:34:45.000We're going to be interviewing him to tell the story.
01:34:47.000But this stuff, Tim, is just not getting told in the news.
01:34:50.000And not only that, and when I was speaking to his parents, now that made me realize they're telling me like, hey Jorge, I'm making less money because of the pandemic.
01:35:29.000Kids becoming out of shape, overweight, their blood pressure's bad, they're like just obese, diabetic, because they're not exercising, they're sitting in all day, they're not getting vitamin D, and they're getting depressed.
01:36:11.000a huge sloth of population like feel like they're left behind just because of the governor just because of the mayor and it's just like a harrowing thing to see and like when you meet these people the thing you realize is that Like they are so like the fact that like Tucker talks about a lot of the fact the classified like it is so obvious to them that people when people think about California they think about oh the place where actors live oh well like celebrities live but the fact that they're like actual waiters or actual restaurant owners who do not have jobs like that is class divide.
01:37:32.000That's the populist new right, where, like, people realize that we, us being workers, have been left behind by the government, and the only, like, the way to unite is, like, not exactly, like, following Bernie's rule, but, like, what Tucker says.
01:37:42.000It's, like, you as a worker have a right.
01:37:44.000Like, the fact that The whole concept of like someone having a job, like the same job at retiring at 60 years old with his Rolex is like outdated, should be worrisome.
01:37:55.000Yeah, let me say probably one of the most bannable things.
01:37:58.000So let's recognize people on the right should not be voting for Republicans.
01:38:10.000How about we all agree the workers should unite, but not to change, not to make socialism, just to get rid of corrupt, crooked politicians.
01:38:23.000I mean, we need to have people come together, a populist movement saying, we might not agree on the economic policy, but we can all agree the elites don't have our back and are selling us out and stripping away our access and our rights and our liberties.
01:38:35.000And if the workers do unite, it doesn't have to be for communism.
01:38:39.000It can just be for the benefit of the people.
01:38:41.000I would say American rights and the right to make a living.
01:38:44.000If I'm being honest, I was far from being a populist guy.
01:38:48.000I would say I was close to being a New York conservative before this year began.
01:39:04.000And Washington does not give a single crap about any of these people at all.
01:39:12.000The stimulus thing was the perfect example for that.
01:39:15.000I talked to this waitress who was 28 years old, single mother, has a 4-year-old son.
01:39:21.000And she was like the last time I was like gone was like when everyone else got there like $1,600 like back in like April May I don't remember and like that was the last one and like and ever since that I've been earning $200 a week and like Like I have a son who is like two years old.
01:39:37.000You know, I think people need to start realizing you can't count on government.
01:39:41.000You can count on them to put the roadblocks up, but not to give you the food after they screw you over.
01:39:45.000And so I know a lot of people don't want to hear it and it's maybe easier for me to say, but we're going back to, you know, we're, we're going back in time in terms of our, in terms of, look, let me stop there.
01:39:55.000We were in a golden age for a long time.
01:39:57.000You go to the store, you get cheeseburgers, you get pizzas, boom, just like that.
01:40:00.000For dirt, you go home, you put it in the freezer, you put it in the oven, you got food.
01:40:12.000And we're heading back in that direction.
01:40:14.000For whatever reason you want to say, I think people need to become self-reliant, independent, start realizing the government's not going to get your back, and even if we do change as politicians, it's not going to change anything.
01:40:23.000You know, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.
01:40:25.000I mean, wages have been going down in this country for the past 30 years, and they keep going down.
01:40:29.000Life expectancy in America is, I think it's like we're like, it's just dropping, dropping, dropping, because now Americans have to work more jobs.
01:40:44.000Like back to your point, like the thing is like, yes, like meritocracy is like still a thing and like people should like believe in it.
01:40:51.000But at the same time, people should always question like these congregation of powers.
01:40:56.000And anytime there's like this, like unwarranted, like mammoth of power to any corporation, to any government, people should like question that or at least like, is this right?
01:41:05.000That this one company has like access to everything that we do, like websites, groceries, like.
01:41:12.000That's why I think we might be heading towards peaceful divorce, as many people have called it.
01:41:25.000Because like I said, people who can't get jobs anymore because, you know, blue states won't hire them, they can get jobs in West Virginia and Wyoming and Nebraska or whatever.
01:41:33.000But I guess we'll see how it plays out.
01:41:34.000We should jump over to Super Chats, take some audience commentary.
01:41:38.000If you haven't already, smash the like button.
01:43:43.000Yeah, I don't, I don't think I think I think, and I hope nothing and I hope they take the
01:43:47.000security seriously, but I think Biden's going to be president and then hopefully things
01:43:52.000I think there's still tensions, you know, and escalation coming in various forms, but I think the 20th is probably going to be.
01:43:57.000We'll see though, because there's talk about Sunday or whatever, and I have no idea what any of that stuff is.
01:44:02.000There's other people theorizing that there might be something like a false attack, but that's just rumor mills that I'm hearing based on no evidence.
01:44:47.000All right, let's see what we got here.
01:44:48.000Student of History says, Listening to the video at 10 a.m., stopped listening to a documentary about Sir Thomas Cochran, and you talked about building culture, and I had an idea of Dunkirk-style docutainment about John Paul Jones, the OG Rev War B.A.
01:45:25.000Yeah, and you know, there was a lot of apprehension against the police state a couple weeks ago by these same individuals that are now cheering it on.
01:45:32.000So it's a little weird to have them congratulate, you know, 20,000 plus armed individuals as a large-scale military mobilization.
01:45:57.000I'll support locals in that sense that I think what he's doing is good and great and giving a platform to people is great.
01:46:05.000My concern though is It's still susceptible to a lot of the same problems.
01:46:09.000Now, with Locals, you have your own Stripe account for payments, meaning if your payment gets banned, it's on you.
01:46:16.000But there's still the fact that Locals is the server hosting the content, and you still have that potential for, I guess, failure.
01:46:25.000Meaning that somebody who does something with DNS or hosting or whatever for Locals could go to them and say, we don't care.
01:46:31.000You are associated with this group and we will terminate our contract unless you do X. And that creates a threat to, you know, the business where when Patreon started banning people, what the CEO was saying is like, look, we've been threatened by these companies.
01:46:46.000And we'll have to ban 100,000 people who are making a living unless we ban one person.
01:46:53.000So we have to get rid of the one person, and we don't want to, but we have to.
01:46:56.000And that's the problem with centralization.
01:46:58.000Now, Locals, I believe, is playing on decentralizing and all that stuff.
01:47:07.000So if you're someone who's got like a moderate following and you want to have your own website, Locals make sense.
01:47:12.000For me, I run a business where we're trying to expand and I have the ability to create my own website and that is just better for me all around.
01:47:19.000The only risks I have are directly to me.
01:47:21.000My vendors, my hosting, my domain, all of that is on me and nobody else.
01:48:37.000So you create a culture, you create some kind of inspirational system and a place and a platform and a community in which you can cheer on young people and make them feel good about themselves.
01:48:50.000Otherwise, they're going to go on social media, sell it to their parents for a quick buck.
01:48:54.000Give them an opportunity to feel good.
01:49:24.000It's only two weeks into January, so... You know, I've had conversations with people who do YouTube who talk about how mid-December to mid-January they stop working because viewership drops dramatically.
01:49:37.000It's substantially harder to produce because most people don't want to and they're going to their families.
01:49:41.000And then you got New Years and then after that, advertising rates are gone because companies don't restart their budgets and actually start putting money into ads until February.
01:49:50.000So they're just like, what's the point?
01:49:53.000I'm not, you know, I don't think it, you know.
01:50:11.000You can watch the podcast episode we did with Dave Smith the other day, where we spent like 40 minutes ragging on Donald Trump, which was...
01:50:18.000A lot of ragging on Donald Trump and foreign policy stuff.
01:50:21.000But the problem is, if they're calling me a grifter, it means they're probably getting out-of-context smears from leftists, and it's like, what do you even do at that point?
01:50:30.000If they're not willing to listen to a show... A lot of the leftists who watch the show I did with Vosh actually started saying good things about me.
01:50:37.000And there was this joke thread about, you know, it was essentially like, which one of these people is worse, and people are like, ah, Tim's alright, he's not that bad, he's kind of dumb though.
01:50:45.000So when they actually watched a show, because there was a leftist on, and they heard what I said, they were like, oh, those things actually aren't true.
01:50:53.000You know, so what they'll do is, I'll quote someone, they'll claim it came from me, there's some activist groups that took me, I said something like, if you were to ask someone who's a white nationalist, they will tell you, This.
01:51:06.000They took the last part and claimed I was the one that was saying it.
01:51:10.000I was trying to be like, no, they'll tell you they're doing, you know, they believe in themselves and they think they're the good guys.
01:51:15.000So it's always some kind of out-of-context nonsense.
01:51:18.000But there's a good reason why there's almost no articles that get written about me, because people who actually try and watch and figure out what I'm saying, after you get these left-wing grifters who will, like, make a YouTube video and they're like, here's Tim Pool saying this, When the journalists who like writing smears actually go to the video, they're like, it's not there.
01:51:59.000And if you want the exclusive, I am a gorilla t-shirt, because everybody loves the gorilla emoji, go to TimCast.com, click shop, and you will see the brand new shirt.
01:52:08.000We're going to have a limited edition tinfoil hat wearing one as well.
01:52:11.000So, you know, I'll point out Luke's shirts are always very serious and political.
01:53:22.000Super Bam Bam says, if there wasn't such a divide in communication between the two camps, maybe the Trump supporters would have had some notice of this person.
01:53:30.000I hadn't even known he was an agitator and was ousted by BLM until now.
01:53:35.000So, we here at the IRL Podcast like to look into the facts and figure out what's going on, and we discover this guy, John Sullivan, even the left doesn't like him.
01:53:43.000You know, they're like, don't give him to us, we don't like the guy, we kicked him out.
01:53:46.000But he probably is still a leftist, just, you know, a violent one.
01:54:11.000Yeah, he interned twice, and then he decided to go and just do journalism, so he made his own press card, went to Iraq to cover what was going on.
01:54:42.000Daniel Maxwell says politicians are always trying to fix problems that they created while adhering to their political ideology, unlike statesmen and public servants who fix problems as they are identified by society for the betterment of society in spite of ideology.
01:56:44.000Gareth Green says, Your whole theory that tech suppression will destroy the suppressed opinions assumes that big tech will not shrink and lose power on its own.
01:56:51.000The demand for platforms for the banned means that eventually such platforms will find ways to beat them, and they will go the way of White Castle.
01:58:56.000Let's see what we got in this year's box of superchats.
01:59:00.000Jimmy Quinto says, you think Dems want a symbiotic trade relationship with China to avoid war and make money, while pushing for war in Russia to secure the industrial-military complex and avoid bankruptcy?
01:59:12.000That was their strategy the whole time with China, that by creating lines of trade it would prevent war when China eventually took over as the global superpower.
01:59:28.000Publius says, so you talked about the personalities and their addiction social media, but what about the addicted users that are being cut off cold turkey?
01:59:35.000Doctors today do not recommend doing anything cold turkey that is habit forming.
02:01:23.000And the thing is too, the schooners, uh, when the outdoor dining band came for like the first two weeks, they were defying orders, doing their thing.
02:01:29.000And I think LA County public health basically came down and says, you guys keep doing your thing.
02:01:32.000We're going to pull that liquor license.
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02:02:44.000So we should have one put up tomorrow because we're going to hang out a little bit after the show and create some exclusive content.
02:02:50.000So let's just do a couple more of these super chats.
02:02:52.000Bobcat says, Tim, look through history.
02:02:54.000America has survived far worse than anything we face today.
02:02:57.000We're not facing anything we haven't beaten before.
02:02:59.000Just trust that our founding fathers weren't idiots.
02:03:01.000I agree, but it doesn't mean that we aren't going to go through conflict and turmoil.
02:03:05.000It may be the end of the American empire in the sense that we have military bases all over the world.
02:03:09.000America will exist as a country, but it will change.
02:03:11.000We're a radically different country from when we were founded.
02:03:13.000So we should still do everything to prevent it from getting worse.
02:05:25.000But you know, of the songs that I would actually probably want to use, I've been playing music since I was like 7 years old, so yes, there's probably like a thousand different songs.
02:05:34.000There's probably like 50 that I think would be worth recording, so... Alright, last one.
02:07:15.000And once again, you know, speaking from the behalf of Daily Caller, Tim, we really appreciate just getting to share what these Americans are going through in Southern California.
02:07:23.000To these owners, it was very important to get the story out there.
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02:08:37.000Because we were talking about something before they started the show that I want to keep talking about.
02:08:44.000We just launched TimCast.com this past week.
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