Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Far Leftist CHARGED For Participation in Capitol Riot w-Jorge Ventura

00:00:00.000 So we knew that there was at least one Black Lives Matter activist who was a part of the

00:00:24.000 storming the Capitol.

00:00:26.000 And now we get a lot more information coming out on this guy, John Sullivan, who apparently now in leaked videos, he's cheering, we did it, we did it.

00:00:33.000 He's with some other reporter or videographer.

00:00:35.000 They actually got invited onto CNN to talk about what's happening.

00:00:38.000 And I suppose they were claiming that they were just there in the capacity of filming.

00:00:43.000 So Anderson Cooper has them on, and tell us what's happened.

00:00:46.000 You've also got other news outlets that interviewed this guy.

00:00:48.000 Now it turns out, after he's been arrested, I think he's been arrested, he's been charged, there's apparently evidence of him screaming, like, I got a knife, let's go, and, like, really getting into it, and people are being put off by it.

00:01:00.000 Like, he's like, do it, do it, let's go, and we'll read some of his quotes, but, uh, This guy was propped up by CNN.

00:01:06.000 I love it.

00:01:07.000 My friends, I really have to recommend the latest Freedom Tunes video, because it's so good.

00:01:11.000 It's basically a right-wing and left-wing pundit screaming whenever a riot happens on the other side.

00:01:16.000 But I know it's not entirely fair, but it is still funny.

00:01:18.000 Freedom Tunes is great.

00:01:18.000 We have them on the show sometimes.

00:01:19.000 But anyway, the point is...

00:01:21.000 Here's this leftist being allowed to go on CNN and talk about all this stuff.

00:01:25.000 He was doing it!

00:01:27.000 He was one of the people leading the charge and encouraging people to do it.

00:01:30.000 And then the media says, there were no leftists.

00:01:33.000 What they'll do is they'll say, no Antifa.

00:01:35.000 Well, the guy's not technically Antifa, because they play it both ways.

00:01:38.000 They'll say, there is no Antifa.

00:01:39.000 And then when it comes down to us colloquially calling someone Antifa, they'll say, he's not part of Antifa.

00:01:45.000 Yeah, OK, we get it.

00:01:46.000 Whatever fits their narrative.

00:01:47.000 Now we can see it.

00:01:48.000 We got a lot more though.

00:01:49.000 Uh, we got leaked video from Project Veritas of Jack Dorsey in his rather drone, uh, way saying, there's gonna be a lot more after this.

00:01:58.000 A lot more censorship.

00:02:01.000 So basically him talking about banning Trump and how more is coming.

00:02:03.000 And there's some creepy stuff happening.

00:02:05.000 You know, we had this teenage girl snitched on her parents and this is like totally 1984 level stuff that we're starting to see.

00:02:12.000 So kind of depressing.

00:02:13.000 Maybe we'll talk about aliens cause we have that pulled up as well, but then we have some, uh, You know, I don't know how relevant this news is to everybody, but considering we're talking about the Capitol and we're talking about who's getting arrested, we have a story on this personality who worked for BuzzFeed.

00:02:29.000 His name's Baked Alaska, many of you probably know him.

00:02:31.000 He jumped bail to go to DC and then he skipped his court appearance afterwards and apparently

00:02:38.000 he's missing.

00:02:39.000 So he's been banned from all his platforms, which I mean he was banned a long time ago,

00:02:42.000 and now apparently his lawyers have no idea where he is and the court's like, what's happened

00:02:46.000 to this guy?

00:02:47.000 So from BuzzFeed to working with Miley Yiannopoulos, storming the Capitol, and now being I guess

00:02:52.000 a fugitive from the law?

00:02:54.000 It's a crazy story.

00:02:55.000 Considering you worked for BuzzFeed, I think it's particularly relevant, because we'll talk a bit about this.

00:02:58.000 But before we get into everything, let's introduce some of our guests.

00:03:02.000 We got, once again, one and only Jorge Ventura is chilling.

00:03:05.000 Yeah, Jorge Ventura, field correspondent with The Daily Caller.

00:03:07.000 Glad to be back and just talk about all the madness going on in our country.

00:03:11.000 Right on.

00:03:11.000 Yeah, you also, you did a documentary on the businesses that have been destroyed in California.

00:03:16.000 Yeah, so we got a documentary on the restaurant industry just basically really struggling against big government, no help from the state, and me and Sonic here actually, you know, got to be on the ground and really tell those stories.

00:03:26.000 So I know we'll get a little bit more into that, but really important story and we're just trying to focus on the average American again.

00:03:32.000 Yeah, we're going to have fun ragging on California. 0.96

00:03:34.000 I've got an article from a while back talking about all the failed policies of California, which we'll add into your experiences.

00:03:39.000 But producer from The Daily Caller, Sagnik, you want to introduce yourself?

00:03:42.000 Yeah, I'm Sagnik Basu, and I'm the producer for The Daily Caller.

00:03:45.000 I decided to spend my holidays, you know, not being in the D.C.

00:03:48.000 bubble and filming actual people in California who run local businesses and see what's up with them.

00:03:54.000 And Jorge has been doing an amazing job on the field covering all these stories, so I just wanted to fly over, change course for a while, and shed actual light on these people.

00:04:03.000 So we'll get into all of it, but just before we do, California, failed state?

00:04:08.000 Yes?

00:04:09.000 Failing for sure, definitely failing, definitely going downwards.

00:04:12.000 People do not trust the people who rule over them and they can actually sense the fact that there's an aristocratic indifference from the people, from the governors.

00:04:23.000 They realize that they don't really care and these lockdown measures not only make no sense, like banning outdoor dining, but on top of that when they see their Governor's like downing outside and stuff like that.

00:04:34.000 There's like a different like there's like the hate just goes to a different dimension Yeah, and of course we got the one and only Lucret Caskey You know, you know some people say skid row is the new Main Street and I think it makes totally perfect sense Hi, I'm an independent journalist that produces content on the YouTube channel.

00:04:51.000 We are change I am also a very very humble t-shirt vendor on we are change that org forward slash.

00:04:58.000 You always got some crazy This one celebrates my emancipation from New York as I left it.

00:05:04.000 This is the New York state flag but edited towards my kind of understanding of it and it says F this place and it has two of the people that are usually there running away.

00:05:16.000 As I moved away from New York City and I will never come back to that Family-friendly show.

00:05:20.000 Also, very bad place.

00:05:22.000 Yes.

00:05:22.000 Failed state.

00:05:23.000 Of course, we got Sour Patch Lids, pressing all the buttons.

00:05:24.000 I am here in the corner, pushing buttons.

00:05:26.000 It's all good.

00:05:26.000 Right on.

00:05:27.000 And we're gonna get everything.

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00:05:47.000 We really need this.

00:05:48.000 The reason I'm pushing so hard for this is because, as many of you may be aware, maybe not, Facebook recently terminated access to monetization for me.

00:05:55.000 I've never cared for Facebook or relied on it heavily at all, and they've never actually paid me anything anyway, but it's the principle of the matter.

00:06:01.000 I violated no rules, and they stripped me out of the program.

00:06:04.000 Why?

00:06:04.000 I reported on what happened at the Capitol.

00:06:07.000 No calls for action.

00:06:08.000 In fact, as you've listened to me the past week or so, it's been condemnation.

00:06:13.000 Facebook didn't care.

00:06:14.000 They nuked a ton of channels.

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00:06:24.000 Because if we get the axe from YouTube or whatever, I want to at least try to keep things going.

00:06:28.000 I know I often say that if I get banned, I'll just go down by the river.

00:06:31.000 Well, you know, mostly true, but I'll at least try not to be entirely removed from the internet.

00:06:38.000 So again, TimCast.com, sign up, become a member.

00:06:41.000 But also, you'll notice if you go to the site, there's a shop button.

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00:07:20.000 But let's talk about this first story.

00:07:22.000 And what's interesting about this is CNN platforming these people.

00:07:27.000 How about that?

00:07:28.000 Daily Caller reports, Feds charge left-wing activists who filmed shooting of Trump supporter at Capitol.

00:07:34.000 They say.

00:07:35.000 Federal prosecutors on Thursday announced charges against John Sullivan, a self-described left-wing activist who recorded the fatal police shooting of a Trump supporter inside the U.S.

00:07:43.000 Capitol last week.

00:07:44.000 Sullivan, the founder of a group called Insurgents USA, which formed in the aftermath of the death of George Floyd, is charged with illegally entering the Capitol, civil disorder, and violent or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

00:07:57.000 Sullivan faces separate charges for rioting and criminal mischief in connection with an incident in Provo, Utah on June 30th where a person was shot and injured during a protest against police brutality.

00:08:06.000 For those that aren't familiar, a car was driving down the road and some Black Lives Matter dude runs up and just shoots him for no reason.

00:08:14.000 Crazy stuff.

00:08:15.000 He was one of the organizers.

00:08:17.000 They say an FBI affidavit issued against Sullivan on Thursday cites comments he made on video he recorded during the Capitol breach.

00:08:25.000 Sullivan told FBI agents as well as members of the media that he showed up at the Capitol to document the activities of Trump supporters who were protesting the results of the presidential election.

00:08:33.000 But the FBI affidavit indicates Sullivan was acting more as an active participant in the riots than as a journalist.

00:08:42.000 Here's the best part.

00:08:42.000 Here's what I want to show.

00:08:43.000 You got this clip right here.

00:08:45.000 Mike Cernovich tweets this out.

00:08:47.000 I can't stop laughing, sorry.

00:08:48.000 I know it's all a scared time, but this is just too much.

00:08:54.000 You have this image of Anderson Cooper bringing these people on his show to ask them about what's going on.

00:09:01.000 That's interesting.

00:09:02.000 I was told the people who stormed that building were domestic terrorists.

00:09:06.000 CNN is putting these domestic terrorists on their TV to espouse their deranged views.

00:09:14.000 That's incredible.

00:09:15.000 From these quotes, it gets really interesting.

00:09:17.000 Apparently, he said, let me see, I'll read this one.

00:09:20.000 He said, quote, there are so many people, let's go.

00:09:22.000 This S is ours, F yeah, he is heard saying in video.

00:09:25.000 We accomplished this, this S. We did this together, F yeah.

00:09:30.000 We are all part of the history, this history.

00:09:32.000 Let's burn this S down. 1.00

00:09:34.000 These are quotes from the dude that CNN had on TV.

00:09:37.000 Wow.

00:09:38.000 He was filmed as a Capitol Police officer shot Trump supporter Ashley Babbitt as she attempted to enter the barricaded section.

00:09:43.000 Now, there's another interview that was put up by the Epoch Times where one reporter said he kept saying over and over again, she's dead.

00:09:49.000 And there were people saying, no, no, we can save her.

00:09:51.000 We can save her.

00:09:52.000 And he goes, no, she's dead.

00:09:53.000 And so what she was saying, this journalist, is that she thinks he was trying to enrage the Trump supporters so that they would take out some action like this would be a catalyst or something.

00:10:03.000 In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, hours after the fatal shooting, Sullivan acknowledged he was not a Trump supporter, but denied instigating the rioters who stormed the Capitol.

00:10:11.000 I don't want to see people get hurt unnecessarily, he told Cooper.

00:10:15.000 Some Trump supporters have pointed to Sullivan's presence in the Capitol to claim that left-wing activists have served as agent provocateurs, egging on Trump supporters to break into the Capitol and commit violence.

00:10:26.000 I think that's confirmed at this point.

00:10:28.000 And CNN did no vetting and put this guy on TV.

00:10:32.000 Bravo.

00:10:33.000 Now, I'll be real with all you guys.

00:10:35.000 I'm actually fine with him being interviewed.

00:10:38.000 If you've got someone who's a participant, journalists should interview them.

00:10:41.000 Why did you do it?

00:10:42.000 What's happening?

00:10:42.000 The problem?

00:10:43.000 They didn't vet this guy.

00:10:44.000 He clearly lied.

00:10:45.000 He was instigating.

00:10:46.000 He was a part of it.

00:10:47.000 I've even seen a photo.

00:10:48.000 I don't know if it was actually from the event, but it looks like it's him wearing a Trump hat.

00:10:53.000 And he's talking about how he's infiltrating, and he's gonna play a role.

00:10:57.000 It seems like maybe this dude's real intent was to rile up Trump supporters so that they would be falsely accused, or not falsely accused, but that's so that they would do something really bad, and then boom, right there on TV.

00:11:08.000 Sure enough, he goes on CNN, and what does he say?

00:11:10.000 Oh yeah, look at everything they were doing.

00:11:12.000 It's not us.

00:11:13.000 Yeah, I watched that interview and it's just funny now that we're talking about it.

00:11:17.000 It's like CNN interviewed him like if he was actually a journalist for a media company.

00:11:22.000 It's like CNN, if you want a reporter's perspective on the ground, there's tons of ground reporters that were on the ground.

00:11:28.000 You could have grabbed someone from the AP, from the Reuters, anywhere.

00:11:31.000 I gotta say something.

00:11:32.000 I gotta say something.

00:11:34.000 They took one of the people they claim is a domestic terrorist.

00:11:37.000 That's what they keep saying, right?

00:11:39.000 They put him on TV with this woman.

00:11:41.000 Now this woman, there's a video where she's like, we did it, we did it.

00:11:44.000 And he goes, this is gonna be the best film you've ever made.

00:11:46.000 And they're like, yeah.

00:11:46.000 And she goes, are you recording this?

00:11:48.000 He goes, I'll delete it, I'll delete it.

00:11:50.000 He's clearly egging them on.

00:11:51.000 CNN says he was there in the capacity to document.

00:11:56.000 Sitting across from us, over on a beanbag, is Richie McGinnis, who's chillin'.

00:11:59.000 And the New York Times called him a rioter who punched the window.

00:12:03.000 And Richie's a journalist!

00:12:04.000 You guys are journalists!

00:12:05.000 Working for a news organization with press credentials for the Capitol building.

00:12:10.000 What do we get?

00:12:10.000 The New York Times falsely calls Richie a rioter who punched the glass.

00:12:15.000 Never even happened!

00:12:17.000 They just make it up?

00:12:18.000 What do they do?

00:12:18.000 They make it up?

00:12:19.000 They said, oh, this guy punched the window.

00:12:21.000 And they're like, just publish it.

00:12:22.000 And then this guy who's actually there saying, yes, let's do this, burn it down.

00:12:26.000 CNN's like, interesting.

00:12:28.000 From a videographer and photographer.

00:12:30.000 This is what we... You know what, man?

00:12:33.000 Life is parody.

00:12:35.000 It's a joke, huh?

00:12:36.000 It definitely highlights how horrible the mainstream media is, but also a lot of questions about, you know, what actually happened there.

00:12:42.000 Of course, a lot of people are going to be espousing their theories, but it's also important to note that Ford Fisher just found a Twitter thread about this guy from Allegedly left-wing people in Seattle from November of last year talking about how people in the activist community in Seattle think that he might be an infiltrator or an agent provocateur.

00:13:05.000 Those are the exact words from a thread going all the way back in November specifically about this same John Sullivan individual.

00:13:12.000 Who is this guy?

00:13:13.000 So I got a thread from Max Blumenthal.

00:13:16.000 Now, Max is a leftist, and he goes through this big thread about this guy, John Sullivan, saying that he was egging things on as it was happening.

00:13:26.000 He says now he's at Exhibit A in right-wing claims that Antifa instigated the riot.

00:13:31.000 But I think this is where the nuance comes in.

00:13:33.000 I mean, this dude, John Sullivan, was rejected by Black Lives Matter, was rejected by even Antifa in Seattle.

00:13:40.000 And here he is, On the ground, at the Capitol, pretending to be a Trump supporter or what?

00:13:45.000 Pretending to be a journalist?

00:13:47.000 So this is weird.

00:13:48.000 Maybe it really just comes down to some crazy crackbot instigator who wants to watch the world burn.

00:13:53.000 Maybe he's actually a leftist.

00:13:54.000 He's certainly not a Trump supporter.

00:13:56.000 I mean, especially... But it could be that he's a leftist who organized, you know, this Provo protest for Black Lives Matter.

00:14:05.000 Yeah, maybe he might be aggressive, and he may be a provocateur, but it definitely seems like he's a leftist.

00:14:11.000 Yeah and it was odd too because I was even watching some news from Utah like their local news stations also were interviewing John like if he was like a field correspondent for someone so this whole thing is just odd how it happened but you know it's kind of funny because it's like us at The Daily Caller we've been covering riots the whole summer and CNN never never hit us up for an interview and you know want to know our perspective from the ground up.

00:14:33.000 The funny thing is, when the New York Times labeled Richie a rioter, the correction they put out said, what did they say, a right-wing outlet or something?

00:14:39.000 A right-wing, Daily Caller, a right-wing outlet.

00:14:42.000 That's the most bothersome part.

00:14:43.000 It's like, not only do you not concede the fact that you guys were wrong and misleading, Why don't they say left-wing reporter for like Jim Acosta, you know?

00:14:51.000 Yeah, right, right, right.

00:14:53.000 like the correction he run is like making sure that he's more damaged by

00:14:56.000 telling that oh a right-wing reporter was inside the Capitol you know what

00:15:00.000 that means why don't they say left-wing reporter for like Jim Acosta

00:15:03.000 you know you know what yeah right right right

00:15:05.000 with credentials yeah They could have just said, we made a mistake.

00:15:07.000 It was a journalist.

00:15:08.000 The worst part is like, it's not like they do not know who Richie McGinnis is.

00:15:11.000 Like they used the reporting for Kenosha, which was like invaluable to like most extent.

00:15:16.000 And no, no, it shows they did know the groundwork.

00:15:20.000 They didn't Google search.

00:15:22.000 They didn't ask who this guy was.

00:15:24.000 They just said, it's a writer.

00:15:25.000 That's the problem with mainstream media.

00:15:28.000 They are so married to their narrative, it doesn't really matter what comes in weight.

00:15:33.000 They're so married to the narrative that they'll put one of the people who stormed the Capitol and cheered it on, on the news, as a journalist!

00:15:41.000 And then the New York Times will call the journalist a rioter.

00:15:43.000 And you know what's the best part of it, Tim?

00:15:45.000 Is CNN is not going to even update a story like, hey guys, we just interviewed a rioter.

00:15:49.000 We just found out this is the charge.

00:15:50.000 They won't even update it.

00:15:51.000 Everything he said was probably wrong.

00:15:52.000 But this is important.

00:15:53.000 According to the FBI, the initial reports that I'm seeing right now, this John Sullivan allegedly told the police officers to stand down in the speaker's lobby.

00:16:01.000 And then he, quote, agitated the crowd to attack the doors and windows when he filmed at the moment when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.

00:16:09.000 He told the cops to stand down?

00:16:10.000 This is according to some initial reports I'm seeing here.

00:16:13.000 I wasn't able to verify.

00:16:14.000 This is allegedly according to the FBI.

00:16:16.000 I need a few more minutes to kind of fact-check this.

00:16:20.000 I'll send you a link right now.

00:16:21.000 There's a justice.gov document that I will... Here we go!

00:16:26.000 In the FBI affidavit, they say, several times during the video, Sullivan encounters law enforcement officers who are trying to prevent further advancement through the building by those who entered unlawfully.

00:16:35.000 In at least two encounters, Sullivan can be heard on video arguing with officers, telling them to stand down so that they do not get hurt.

00:16:42.000 Among other things, Sullivan can be heard telling officers, you are putting yourself in harm's way.

00:16:46.000 The people have spoken and there are too many people.

00:16:49.000 You got to stand down.

00:16:50.000 The people out there that tried to do that as they got hurt.

00:16:53.000 I saw it.

00:16:54.000 I'm caring about you.

00:16:56.000 Hey, what's wrong with that?

00:16:57.000 And that's when, and that's when Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed.

00:17:00.000 That's another important aspect here because he's inciting at the exact moment where it was the worst scenario that unfolded that could have gone very much more haywire.

00:17:10.000 A lot more people could have got hurt.

00:17:11.000 And we're extremely, extremely lucky that that situation just led to one death.

00:17:16.000 Cause it, cause it could have easily, it could have easily led to a whole massacre and a whole disaster that luckily didn't happen.

00:17:26.000 I don't think he really cares about much.

00:17:27.000 I mean, reading about him, the left is like, nah, dude, look at this guy.

00:17:31.000 And I'm kind of like, I'm seeing what they're saying.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:33.000 He just wants chaos.

00:17:34.000 Yeah.

00:17:35.000 He wants to watch the world burn.

00:17:36.000 That's his thing.

00:17:37.000 What is going on?

00:17:37.000 There's a cat running around, going crazy.

00:17:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:39.000 I tried.

00:17:40.000 The cat came in here and started running around going nuts.

00:17:42.000 I gotta throw her out. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Anyway, back to the important news.

00:17:46.000 This is the bonus content you've all been waiting for.

00:17:49.000 Mr. John Saul.

00:17:49.000 Hey, he's just there to document, guys.

00:17:51.000 He's just there to document.

00:17:53.000 She's doing her job.

00:17:54.000 It's alright.

00:17:55.000 So what was going on?

00:17:56.000 We're distracted by a cat.

00:17:58.000 We were talking about the FBI.

00:17:59.000 Richie's now crawling around.

00:18:01.000 Richie, you can stand up and get the cat.

00:18:03.000 It's fine.

00:18:07.000 But now, Tim, we're getting a little bit more information on some of the arrests that are coming out.

00:18:12.000 I believe we had like two Virginia state officers involved.

00:18:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:17.000 Apparently some cops were guiding them.

00:18:19.000 One cop put on a MAGA hat and told them where to go.

00:18:23.000 That's insane.

00:18:24.000 So when I hear about, you know, they're locking down D.C., like 20,000 National Guard or whatever, and they're going to shut down the National Mall.

00:18:31.000 I think there's legit like threats because this is this stuff that's happening with the 6th, the Electoral College.

00:18:37.000 That was Trump being like, let's go peacefully march.

00:18:40.000 I imagine there's actual people who are fired up and crazy.

00:18:44.000 And the 6th wasn't their day.

00:18:46.000 No, I'm I'm I'm I'm hoping they keep their security tight.

00:18:49.000 Well, we get through this peacefully.

00:18:51.000 Another thing to really consider here was that there was a lot of arrests made of military personnel.

00:18:57.000 So that's another huge factor here.

00:18:58.000 And we had that letter that we talked about in yesterday's podcast about the military sending out notices that it was Joe Biden that won the election.

00:19:06.000 It's not a contested election and now there's even a photo going around with one of the soldiers laying down and reading Atlas Shrugged inside of the Capitol that's getting the rounds on social media and people are betting how long it's gonna take for this soldier to be kicked out of the Capitol as there's Congress members demanding that the military there are vetted to make sure that they don't believe in Donald Trump and or our right-wingers.

00:19:31.000 He read Atlas Shrugged, that confirms it.

00:19:33.000 He's far right.

00:19:34.000 Somebody tweeted, there's a viral tweet, it was on Reddit too, it said, it says far right, it shows Kyle Rittenhouse, and then it says right, and it shows Nancy Pelosi, and it says center, and it's AOC.

00:19:45.000 Oh my god. 0.98

00:19:46.000 That was the dumbest thing ever. 0.99

00:19:47.000 Then it says left, and it says, you know, leadership not found, and they were like, the Overton window has shifted so far to the right that there is no left leadership in this country. 0.98

00:19:55.000 And it's like, bro, if you think AOC is a centrist, you need to, you need to turn the internet off.

00:20:02.000 You need to just go outside for a couple of days and not go online, not read the news and just like, you know, do some chores.

00:20:08.000 That's what, that's what goes to show like how much power the left has over the media.

00:20:11.000 It's like, they have been able to shift the Overton window so efficiently and without people like noticing it, like they do it so gradually and it becomes like risky to say like normal things, which people used to believe in like two years ago.

00:20:25.000 So here's the thing.

00:20:26.000 The reason why, this guy doesn't get it, the reason why there's no, in his mind, left leadership is because if you actually realign the Overton window properly, you can't go further left than Ocasio-Cortez.

00:20:38.000 You can argue authoritarianism, libertarianism, you can argue her policies aren't effective enough or she's not an effective leader, but she's a literal socialist, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

00:20:47.000 So let's just do this.

00:20:49.000 If we're talking about the economic scale, left versus right, she's a socialist.

00:20:53.000 Socialism is literally the far left end of the spectrum, whereas laissez-faire capitalism is the far right.

00:20:58.000 If she was, you know, like a social democrat, like Denmark, where you have a capitalist system, but a large welfare state, you could argue she's just a leftist.

00:21:08.000 No, she's far left.

00:21:09.000 And I'm not saying that disparagingly.

00:21:10.000 She is.

00:21:11.000 If you want to talk culturally, left versus right, which is far left would be progressive, and far right would be traditionalist.

00:21:18.000 AOC is far, far left.

00:21:21.000 Like, intersectional, proposing bills on far left, ultra-woke, ultra-progressivism.

00:21:27.000 I don't want to pretend like she's the furthest left possible because there's probably an argument there about what constitutes as far left as you can go, but when you're a socialist who is ultra-woke, you've got the cultural spectrum and the economic spectrum, and considering where she stands relative to everyone else in the country, she's probably the furthest left politician we actually have in office.

00:21:46.000 Well, I was going to say, Tim, do you think that picture came from, because I know right now the progressive movement of the Democratic Party, they're really actually upset with the squad because they didn't do the force the vote on the Medicare for All.

00:21:57.000 Do you think that's an issue?

00:21:59.000 Because I know I'm actually seeing, obviously, Jimmy Dore and other progressives now come out and say, AOC is actually not even one of us.

00:22:05.000 She's now part of the establishment.

00:22:07.000 So do you think that's where it's coming from?

00:22:08.000 What's your thoughts on that?

00:22:10.000 You can argue that she's an ineffective leader. 1.00

00:22:12.000 Right.

00:22:13.000 But she won't force a vote.

00:22:14.000 She won't even put the pressure on him.

00:22:15.000 force of all she won't even put pressure on her. 0.61

00:22:17.000 But then the question is what is she, her being far left is a question of what she believes

00:22:21.000 and advocates for.

00:22:23.000 Just because she was like my strategy is different doesn't mean she's not far left.

00:22:26.000 So there are people who try to argue she's not really a leftist, that she's a careerist

00:22:30.000 and it's exemplified by the fact that she voted for Pelosi and refused to stand up.

00:22:34.000 And I'm like dude if a guy came out and advocated for fascism but then voted for Republicans

00:22:40.000 you'd still call him a fascist.

00:22:41.000 You know what I mean? 0.94

00:22:41.000 You'd be like, the guy's clearly a fascist. 0.94

00:22:43.000 She's clearly a socialist.

00:22:44.000 She's clearly far left.

00:22:45.000 She just supports Democrats as a means to an end.

00:22:48.000 If we could have a political scale, I wish it could be if you believe in freedom or if you're an authoritarian.

00:22:53.000 And those are the biggest ones because when you look at AOC, she's talking about putting Trump supporters on list.

00:22:58.000 She's calling for the banning of parlor.

00:23:00.000 She's calling for the reigning in of media and the media environment.

00:23:03.000 That's total totalitarian, big government.

00:23:06.000 And to me, the most important spectrum that gets overshadowed is if you believe in freedom or if you believe in total government.

00:23:12.000 And she, in my opinion, believes in total government.

00:23:15.000 Well, so that's the thing, right?

00:23:17.000 If you look at someone like her, she's an authoritarian.

00:23:19.000 Yeah.

00:23:19.000 They'll tell you she's not.

00:23:21.000 But she's on the right side of the aisle, though.

00:23:23.000 That's why media doesn't distinguish between that.

00:23:26.000 She's on the left-hand side.

00:23:27.000 She's on the left, but from her perspective, she thinks that locking down Trump supporters or anyone who has worked in that government is okay.

00:23:36.000 And the media allows that only because she's advocating that from the left. 0.99

00:23:40.000 So authoritarianism doesn't matter because she's advocating it from the left-hand side of the aisle. 1.00

00:23:45.000 And so I think the left fundamentally, many of these younger leftists don't understand what authoritarianism means versus libertarianism, freedom versus authority, the hierarchical control versus the decentralized system.

00:23:58.000 AOC is definitely on the authoritarian scale.

00:24:01.000 And so is Bernie Sanders for that matter.

00:24:02.000 But they always show you this political compass that shows Bernie and AOC on libertarian left.

00:24:08.000 And I'm like, nah.

00:24:10.000 You can't advocate for banning private insurance and call that libertarian.

00:24:14.000 You can argue for voting for a cooperative system, like if you were to say, you know, even if you were to argue for universal health care, there's still an authority element in that.

00:24:24.000 I wouldn't necessarily argue it's overly authoritarian, but when you follow it up with, and then we're going to take away from you, now you're in the authoritarian spectrum.

00:24:31.000 You're taking from people, and then you're distributing it.

00:24:34.000 Well, so it's a combination of the two, right?

00:24:39.000 get universal health care. I would argue there's a path to that that is not authoritarian. It's

00:24:44.000 very, very difficult because you're taking people's resources. You're by force, essentially.

00:24:48.000 But if it's through a democratic process and a vote, then it's not authoritarian,

00:24:52.000 but it's getting close to the line. Then coming afterwards and saying we want to ban what you have

00:24:57.000 Okay, that's definitely the authority saying, I know what's better for you, and you're not allowed to choose.

00:25:02.000 That's where you're possibly going.

00:25:04.000 And the metric for that is like, if the means to your end involves government power, the way you're doing it is probably authoritarian.

00:25:11.000 Well, they won't admit it, though, and that's why it's funny you see someone like Jimmy Dore.

00:25:15.000 Jimmy Dore's libertarian left, and he wants universal health care, which is a cooperative system, and he wants them to challenge the machine, the powers, the establishment.

00:25:25.000 He wants to challenge the authority system to, in his perspective, Force the authority to relinquish the power and then give it to the lower classes. 0.84

00:25:36.000 That's like how the left often views what they're doing.

00:25:38.000 I don't want to speak for Jimmy.

00:25:39.000 I really respect the guy.

00:25:40.000 I think he's a good dude.

00:25:40.000 I was going to say, but I mean, is AOC, does she even have any power in Washington?

00:25:44.000 Because, you know, she came into D.C.

00:25:46.000 She's supposed to be this young Congresswoman who's going to break the Democratic establishment. 1.00

00:25:50.000 But it seems now she's just become a cognitive in the machine.

00:25:53.000 She votes for Nancy Pelosi. 1.00

00:25:54.000 She really hasn't got anything progressive passed.

00:25:57.000 So are we overblowing of how powerful AOC is?

00:25:59.000 No, no, no.

00:26:00.000 It seems like she's now a cognitive in the machine.

00:26:03.000 She's playing the game.

00:26:04.000 Look, she'll come out on Twitter and be revolutionary, but when it comes to voting, she's not. 0.99

00:26:08.000 But she was a freshman congresswoman. 0.99

00:26:11.000 She's not going to get anything done.

00:26:12.000 I think she renamed some post offices.

00:26:14.000 But that's what happens when you're in your first term.

00:26:17.000 You're not going to have any power or any leverage or any connections.

00:26:20.000 And so you get what you get.

00:26:22.000 She's got, what, 12 million followers? 0.94

00:26:24.000 Jesus.

00:26:25.000 She's not going anywhere for sure. 0.97

00:26:26.000 She is sucking the money from the Democrats like Trump did from the Republicans. 0.90

00:26:30.000 Now, she might go somewhere. 0.99

00:26:32.000 Democrats might get rid of her. 1.00

00:26:33.000 The Republicans want to get rid of Trump because he's sucking up all the donations.

00:26:38.000 Not only that, after him, all these corporations are like, we're not going to donate to these Republicans anymore.

00:26:42.000 Right.

00:26:43.000 So now they're like, get rid of Trump!

00:26:45.000 Nah, you can't.

00:26:46.000 No, he's got to accept it.

00:26:47.000 Well, I would actually disagree with you guys, because when we look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's in government, she's a freshman, you know, congresswoman, so she's not doing that much, but culturally, she's doing a lot. 0.55

00:26:58.000 When she's playing The Last of Us and she's espousing her ideas, when she's going on Twitter, when she's going and ranting on livestream, she gets millions of views and everyone's listening to her, and she's the kind of new thought leader Of the left promoting authoritarianism and making it trendy it's trendy that the big corporations control everything it's trendy and cool that that there's someone that will punish the bad guy whoever that bad guy may be at any moment in time based on our narrative that changes and is absolutely bipolar so so that in that aspect we have to understand.

00:27:29.000 Huge, huge power and influence that hasn't been tested, hasn't been challenged effectively at all, in my opinion.

00:27:36.000 There's a nuanced argument, I would say, to say that she's not a leftist, in that she's just a tribal leftist.

00:27:42.000 Meaning, she says things that will get her clicks, get her more followers, and it works. 1.00

00:27:48.000 It's really easy to go to someone and say, vote for me and I'll fight for you.

00:27:51.000 Why?

00:27:51.000 Because I am the true progressive.

00:27:53.000 I'm gonna make them give you money. 0.91

00:27:55.000 How would you like $2,000?

00:27:56.000 Cash in your pocket.

00:27:57.000 Vote for me.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, that's called whispering sweet nothings into a constituent's ear.

00:28:01.000 That's kind of what Andrew Yang is doing right now with his run in New York City.

00:28:05.000 But it works.

00:28:05.000 A lot of people are so desperate.

00:28:07.000 They're so downtrodden. 0.72

00:28:09.000 They're so screwed over by the government.

00:28:11.000 I mean, when we look at the actual issues that are affecting us, failing wages, the deindustrialization, the lack of jobs, the lack of ability to actually have economic mobility in the United States, people are so poor.

00:28:23.000 People are so downtrodden that they're like, Yeah, I'll take it.

00:28:26.000 Just give it to me.

00:28:27.000 Just whatever I have to do.

00:28:28.000 Sure, give me that $2,000.

00:28:30.000 And of course, as someone who doesn't believe in government, there was still, I have to admit this, a lot of individuals where that $2,000 would have actually made a big difference in people's lives.

00:28:40.000 That would have been so important for them.

00:28:42.000 I agree with you right there, Luke.

00:28:43.000 And I believe in anarchism.

00:28:45.000 I don't believe in government doing anything for anyone.

00:28:48.000 But you're not a real anarchist, Luke, because you're not leftist anarchist.

00:28:51.000 Whatever, it doesn't matter.

00:28:52.000 I'm kidding.

00:28:54.000 But look, I just want to touch what you said.

00:28:57.000 I think after the experience with me and Sonic in California, like talking to the restaurant industry, it's like, when we're there, it's like, we could see these folks need the $2,000.

00:29:04.000 And they just need something.

00:29:07.000 And it's just like from government, there's no urgency.

00:29:09.000 And it's just, we're just failing the average American.

00:29:12.000 So now these leftists come in and say, here, vote for me.

00:29:15.000 You get 2,000 reoccurring checks.

00:29:17.000 I mean, those checks never come.

00:29:18.000 But listen, you're right.

00:29:19.000 These people need these checks.

00:29:20.000 But how twisted is it?

00:29:21.000 That a dude walks into your house, and he takes your gallon of milk out of your fridge, and he dumps it down the drain.

00:29:27.000 And then you're like, bro, I need milk.

00:29:28.000 And he goes, all right, all right, I'll tell you what, vote for me, and I'll give you milk.

00:29:31.000 It's like, you took the milk from me in the first place, dude!

00:29:34.000 That's like Keynesian economists 101.

00:29:36.000 If you break someone's garage door, it's your job to fix the garage door.

00:29:41.000 The government did this to the economy.

00:29:42.000 It's their job to make sure that these people have a safety net.

00:29:46.000 But I mean, the problem is, it is the perfect scenario for the government.

00:29:50.000 They create the dependence.

00:29:51.000 Yeah.

00:29:52.000 And then they create the problem and they're the only solution.

00:29:54.000 Yeah, they give us power, then we'll solve this thing.

00:29:56.000 We started the problem.

00:29:58.000 It's our fault.

00:29:58.000 But don't worry, if you vote for us, we'll fix it for you.

00:30:01.000 And they're going to make a lot worse by devaluing your dollar, collapsing the economy.

00:30:06.000 And then the price of your daily items at the grocery store will go up dramatically and you won't be able to afford to live.

00:30:12.000 The medical industry is already rigged.

00:30:14.000 It's even going to be more rigged with companies like Amazon coming into the play here as they're trying to get control of the healthcare market now as Amazon just recently teamed up with Warren Buffett with Berkshire and Jamie Diamond of JP Morgan to launch a new healthcare company.

00:30:31.000 So when you look at this kind of megalo, like, monopoly, huge conglomerate of a glob that is Amazon, they've taken over the book business, they're taking over their online retail business, they're taking over all the lucrative government contracts, they're taking over grocery stores, and now they're trying to take over the health industry.

00:30:50.000 But Luke, it's okay, because they tweet Black Lives Matter, Luke, it's okay. 0.98

00:30:54.000 Hold on, hold on, let me stop you guys.

00:30:56.000 Ragging on Amazon.

00:30:57.000 Yes.

00:30:57.000 Think about this.

00:31:00.000 Think about this.

00:31:00.000 I remember when I was growing up, they were like, how many banks were there?

00:31:04.000 It's like, you want to go to the bank?

00:31:04.000 There were so many banks.

00:31:06.000 Well, then by just good fortune, Bank of America bought up every single bank.

00:31:11.000 And so then it was like, dude, you could walk a block and boom, Bank of America.

00:31:14.000 So the ATM was super easy to use, super convenient.

00:31:16.000 How awesome was that?

00:31:17.000 So here's what I think about.

00:31:19.000 Imagine a future where you open your phone, right?

00:31:21.000 You open your phone and you get a hundred apps.

00:31:24.000 I don't even know what's going on, there's so many apps.

00:31:25.000 I would like one app.

00:31:26.000 We'll call it App.

00:31:28.000 Then think about, you gotta go to the doctor.

00:31:30.000 I don't wanna think about what building I have to go to.

00:31:32.000 How about we just have one big building called Store?

00:31:35.000 And it'll be owned by Jeff Bezos, and App will be owned by Google, and it'll just do everything.

00:31:40.000 Right?

00:31:41.000 That's the future we're going to head towards, where there's one massive... I'm joking for those that people haven't gotten through the facetiousness, but the point I'm making is they're hyper-monopolizing everything into single sources for everything, where they will be the provider, and then I want you to think about what that future has in store for you.

00:31:59.000 When you get banned by app, you can't order food, you can't use your map, you're done.

00:32:04.000 Imagine if Apple banned you from their iPhone, iOS.

00:32:08.000 They could.

00:32:09.000 You don't own the software, they're licensing it to you on your phone.

00:32:12.000 People don't question aggregation of power, monopoly, oligopolies.

00:32:18.000 You know, people don't get to.

00:32:19.000 I love the naivety of these people who think that, well, Jeff Bezos can't force the Washington Post to write, you know, whatever.

00:32:23.000 So, you know, they're editorially independent.

00:32:24.000 Washington Post, but they're not questioning the fact that this one

00:32:26.000 company gets to control so much that if I fall out of line, what will happen to me?

00:32:31.000 These, you know, people don't get to, I love the naivety of these people who

00:32:34.000 think that, well, Jeff Bezos can't force the Washington Post to write, you know,

00:32:39.000 whatever.

00:32:40.000 So, you know, they're, they're editorially independent. 0.99

00:32:42.000 It's like, Oh, shut up, dude. 0.98

00:32:44.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:32:44.000 Jeff Bezos will just be like, oh, I can't tell you what to write, but no budget this year. 0.96

00:32:51.000 You don't walk here anymore.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:52.000 Right.

00:32:53.000 And then not only that, Tim, we also have to think about the influence of the Washington Post, because now journalists who are dying to get to the washington post they're never gonna

00:33:01.000 investigate amazon they're never gonna

00:33:03.000 report on amazon truthfully because they wanna they want that washington post job too so then

00:33:07.000 you make other companies, all these other media and journalists kind of just bend over to you

00:33:10.000 without even having to be at the washington post either so that's

00:33:13.000 something that plays a role too that's why the trump news cycle dominated for so long

00:33:16.000 because it was not a threat to the establishment

00:33:19.000 but it gave them this like narrative that they were fighting the machine

00:33:24.000 Exactly.

00:33:24.000 It was really fun. I'd hear from leftists when they'd say like, you know, I would talk about

00:33:27.000 Apologize Watson says, you know conservatism is a new counterculture and it's punk rock

00:33:33.000 Apparently the most punk rock song you could write would be supporting the president because the entirety of the

00:33:37.000 cultural machines is against him Yeah, and people bet that's not true. He's the president

00:33:41.000 And I'm like, yeah.

00:33:41.000 Who struggles to get any of his policies done because the Republicans don't even like him.

00:33:45.000 He hires and fires people faster than anybody else we've ever seen.

00:33:48.000 And he's really locked up because of the Mueller investigation.

00:33:51.000 Like, the dude was pinned down in a lot of ways.

00:33:53.000 Far from perfect.

00:33:54.000 But the point is, just because you're president doesn't mean you control anything, right?

00:33:59.000 I mean, you do have a lot of control.

00:34:01.000 Trump was able to do a lot of things.

00:34:02.000 But I look now at AOC.

00:34:05.000 And if politics is downstream from culture, trust me, man, give it 15 years and AOC is going to be considered, they're going to call her conservative. 1.00

00:34:13.000 She's going to be considered a moderate Democrat by the time she's like, you know, in her 50s or 60s.

00:34:16.000 So like, you don't think, you don't think that she actually believes the things she sounds like right now?

00:34:21.000 No, she does.

00:34:22.000 What I'm saying is that in, how old is she now?

00:34:24.000 She's 28?

00:34:24.000 No, she's like 31.

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:25.000 night. She's like she's like 31 yet yet so in in you know let's

00:34:29.000 say 30 years. Universal health care. Universal jobs guarantee all that stuff she's 1.00

00:34:36.000 talking about in that little drawing thing she did.

00:34:38.000 That will be considered center yeah.

00:34:40.000 The Republicans are being excised.

00:34:42.000 Conservative values are gone.

00:34:44.000 And you know, it's a conservative's fault in a lot of ways.

00:34:46.000 I've had so many arguments with conservatives about big tech censorship over the past several years.

00:34:50.000 I remember once, when I was in Milwaukee, I was talking to this guy and I said, we need to regulate big tech.

00:34:55.000 to protect freedom of speech, and he argued with me.

00:34:57.000 And I was like, dude, if you want to sit here and argue with me that we shouldn't regulate these companies when I'm like the liberal arguing for this, I'm just going to agree with you.

00:35:05.000 You know why?

00:35:05.000 It's not my ideology getting purged from the internet.

00:35:08.000 So by the time you've figured out what's happening to your ideas and your ideology and your politics, you'll be long gone, and I'll have been fighting to preserve my politics and what I believe in.

00:35:20.000 So if you're not smart enough to realize what's happening, then maybe your ideas don't deserve to exist anyway.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, hey, Jack Dorsey's more powerful than the President of the United States.

00:35:29.000 I think that says it all.

00:35:31.000 The good thing is, I don't know if it's a good thing, but I think it's an interesting concept is how these other countries are now waking up to this concept of what's social media in the United States and just kind of that reach between social media and then big government here in the United States.

00:35:44.000 Now other countries are like, wait a minute, when it comes to election time, We should be banning the, we should be banning the Facebook and the Twitter.

00:35:50.000 Yeah, Uganda just did it. 0.99

00:35:51.000 And they saw like this, if this American app can like ban their own president, we won't let Jack Dorsey dictate what happens in our country, in our democracy.

00:35:59.000 Really quick, before you go, just, just a funny, it was a daily, we have a guy named Logan Hall with the Daily Caller and he tweeted, he's like, he's like, Hey Facebook, why don't you, why don't you go build your own country?

00:36:10.000 I said, why don't you build your own Uganda? 1.00

00:36:13.000 Well, this is important here.

00:36:14.000 I don't know if we should maybe pull this up, but the Mexican president just announced that he's going to be mounting an international campaign against social media bans.

00:36:24.000 So the Mexican president right now is saying that the first thing he's going to do at the next upcoming G20 meetings is to organize a proposal This is interesting stuff, dude.

00:36:33.000 course make sure that social media companies cannot suspend ...

00:36:37.000 freedom of expression and he's actively fighting for I never ...

00:36:41.000 thought I would I would ever say this the Mexican president ...

00:36:45.000 is actively fighting for the speech of Donald Trump.

00:36:48.000 What 2021.

00:36:53.000 Let's do this.

00:36:54.000 Let's talk about what Veritas just ended up publishing.

00:36:58.000 We have a story from Breitbart.

00:36:59.000 Project Veritas video shows Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey saying censorship is not, quote, going away anytime soon.

00:37:06.000 It's interesting.

00:37:07.000 I heard James O'Keefe puts up this video and he says, we got a recording of Jack Dorsey speaking.

00:37:13.000 And I said, man, I wish it was just Jack Dorsey literally sitting there with his real voice going, now we're going to ban all of the conservatives and they'll never speak again!

00:37:23.000 But in reality, life isn't like that.

00:37:25.000 So it's really just him going, so we're focused on this one account and, you know, what we're seeing with these other accounts, like QAnon, it's not going to stop anytime soon, but right now we're focused on this one account.

00:37:36.000 Life's boring.

00:37:37.000 It really is.

00:37:38.000 You're not gonna hear some secret meeting between, you know, Jack Dorsey and... No.

00:37:41.000 He's like, it's like, he's on the phone with CNN, he's like, I think we're gonna do the right thing.

00:37:45.000 And ban Trump.

00:37:46.000 Alright, have a good day.

00:37:47.000 I just got off the phone!

00:37:49.000 They believed everything!

00:37:50.000 No, it's not, it's not like that.

00:37:52.000 Jack is exactly like he is, exactly like he speaks, and it's the banality of evil.

00:37:57.000 It's him going there being like, we're doing the right thing to prevent violence by silencing 74 million people who are extremely angry right now.

00:38:03.000 And I know that they just stormed the Capitol and they were all extremely angry and there was several people who died.

00:38:08.000 And I think it's the appropriate thing to make them angrier and prove everything they believed is true.

00:38:15.000 Well, Tim, I want to ask you, when you did the whole thing when, you know, Joe Rogan had you on and you just kind of, like, came on and just pressed Jack, did you leave that podcast and was like, hey, I think this guy might fake some things, I think he, like, considers some of the things we're saying, or were you just like, no, he's an oligarch and it is what it is?

00:38:31.000 Cause we were talking about blockchain technology and you know, there was talk about, I don't know if we talked about it on the show, there was talk about creating a social media network on the blockchain so you can never ban anyone.

00:38:42.000 And I was like, dude, that's nightmarish.

00:38:44.000 You know why? 0.93

00:38:45.000 Cause then when you're 16 and you post something really dumb on the blockchain, it's forever. 0.55

00:38:48.000 Forever. 0.57

00:38:50.000 You can't get rid of it.

00:38:51.000 Yeah, that's horrible. 0.98

00:38:51.000 So I'm like, you know, people need, but maybe that would actually not that bad of a thing because if everybody was forced to realize we've all been dumb kids saying dumb things. 0.98

00:39:00.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:39:01.000 That was classic Tim.

00:39:02.000 That was good stuff.

00:39:03.000 Before you say that, I can see what you said when you were 16.

00:39:06.000 So how about we just shut up right now?

00:39:07.000 It's a cancel culture, we'll be a thing about that. 0.98

00:39:09.000 Yeah, it might actually end up being a good thing.

00:39:11.000 But, no, I think he's a bad person.

00:39:14.000 That was classic, Tim. That was good stuff.

00:39:16.000 You just drilling him and him having to be like, he had to bring another Twitter person to handle the

00:39:21.000 questions.

00:39:22.000 It was legendary.

00:39:23.000 Well, I mean, because Joe and Jack did it the first time, and then they were both like, we need to have a bigger conversation about this.

00:39:29.000 No, but like, following that, he was talking about, we talked about the road to redemption.

00:39:34.000 Like, if in the real world, you could murder somebody, and you only go to prison for 25 years, you get let back out.

00:39:39.000 With restrictions, right?

00:39:40.000 And I was like, but you could say, learn to code on Twitter and be banned for life!

00:39:44.000 I'm a little harsh, don't you think?

00:39:46.000 And so Jack was saying, this is now what, like two years ago?

00:39:48.000 He's like, we're gonna have a road to redemption.

00:39:51.000 People will be able to come back.

00:39:52.000 We'll find a path to come back on.

00:39:53.000 And I was like, you need to do that.

00:39:55.000 And it needs to be, get rid of this idea of permanent bans.

00:39:58.000 Like, you know, it needs to be like, like the worst case scenario is a five-year ban.

00:40:02.000 That's still a really long time.

00:40:04.000 But most people who got banned for like Learn to Code, it should have been a month.

00:40:07.000 Like, I mean, honestly, you shouldn't get banned for saying Learn the Code.

00:40:10.000 But if it was something like, we've deemed this to be harassment, then come on, a lifetime permanent ban?

00:40:16.000 Well, more's coming.

00:40:17.000 So, look, we have this video from James O'Keefe.

00:40:20.000 It's not the craziest thing.

00:40:21.000 He just basically says, we're focused on one account, Trump, right now, but this is going to be much bigger than just one account.

00:40:28.000 And it's going to go on for much longer than just this day, this week, in the next few weeks, and go on beyond the inauguration.

00:40:34.000 Dude, everybody, Just stop using Twitter, man.

00:40:39.000 I guess there's a reason to use it.

00:40:43.000 I've said many times in the past, I'm going to stop using Twitter.

00:40:46.000 I still use it, but I just don't care anymore.

00:40:48.000 So I just do a lot of trolling.

00:40:49.000 I love watching Michael Malice on Twitter.

00:40:51.000 I learned from the best.

00:40:53.000 He's the best.

00:40:53.000 Massive troller, yeah.

00:40:56.000 I've seen really good trolls, but he really knows how to make people's brains crack.

00:41:00.000 And so, I just put out tweets that I think are funny, and I don't think about it anymore. 0.99

00:41:04.000 Maybe that is part of the problem, though, because then a ton of people are like, yeah, but then I'm gonna follow you because you say funny things, and then people react because they're dumb. 0.84

00:41:11.000 And I'm like, yeah. 0.97

00:41:13.000 Yeah.

00:41:14.000 I should probably just stop posting tweets.

00:41:16.000 You know what I do?

00:41:16.000 A lot of the opinions I put on Twitter, I just say in my videos anyway.

00:41:21.000 Twitter doesn't even do anything for me.

00:41:23.000 It's just pointless.

00:41:24.000 You know what, man?

00:41:25.000 I get there's a lot of people Who really want to get more likes and more shares and more followers?

00:41:30.000 I don't care about that.

00:41:33.000 I cared about it when I first got started and I had that first experience of going from like 800 followers to like 5,000.

00:41:39.000 And it was a weird thing having people talking to me all the time, getting hit up.

00:41:42.000 I was like, what's happening? 0.90

00:41:44.000 And then I remember, this is back in 2011, getting the first super stressful anxiety from seeing like 30 tweets where they were like, Tim Poole's a fag, he's a cop. 0.93

00:41:52.000 And I'm like, what's happening? 0.76

00:41:53.000 I'm being inundated with all these tweets.

00:41:55.000 And it was freaking me out.

00:41:55.000 And I'm like, I don't want to look at this.

00:41:57.000 And then I just like kind of thought about it and I was like, I don't even know these 30 people.

00:42:01.000 I looked through it, I was like, hold on, hold on, wait a minute.

00:42:03.000 How many people are insulting me right now?

00:42:05.000 I went through it and I was like, there's not even that many people.

00:42:08.000 And then I thought about it and just stopped caring.

00:42:09.000 But I took the platform seriously for a long time.

00:42:11.000 I would livestream, I would post news.

00:42:13.000 And then, I think maybe it was a year and a half ago or so, I was just like, I'm not gonna post my videos anymore.

00:42:18.000 I'm not gonna treat this platform.

00:42:19.000 I actually deleted the app from my phone.

00:42:21.000 And then I thought about it and I was like, you know, I do like using the app to follow the news organizations.

00:42:27.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 and certain journalists. So I should probably still have it.

00:42:30.000 And that's when I flipped to just like just posting nonsense for fun.

00:42:34.000 Well, the sad thing is a lot of people are obsessed with it and it's their entire existence

00:42:39.000 and it's also their entire identity. And when you see individuals like that, it's like,

00:42:44.000 okay. I mean, and then we also have to understand the other spectrum here.

00:42:48.000 Your emotions could be manipulated by bots or by fake government sock puppet accounts that could manipulate your feelings and emotions based on what they say.

00:42:56.000 That's why I think it's really smart what you did with your website, trying to get your kind of crowd on your platform where you have contacts with them.

00:43:03.000 That's one of the reasons I've been Setting up a similar system and collecting emails on wearechange.org because I understand that once I have the actual context, once I have one-on-one communication with my audience, I could open up the comments.

00:43:17.000 I could have an honest conversation that there is no middle person and I think we need to tell people to do this more and more.

00:43:23.000 Get your own lists.

00:43:24.000 Make sure there's no middle person standing in the ground that could decide what you get to hear, who you get to talk to, Because when you look at the algorithms, they are programmed for a specific outcome.

00:43:36.000 But once you got one-on-one email communication, email still could be rigged in many different ways, especially with the spam box.

00:43:41.000 But it's, in my opinion, one of the best things we have right now, and we should really be taking advantage of it.

00:43:47.000 Think about this, man.

00:43:48.000 You know, so I've got on this channel, we're at like 900 and something thousand subscribers.

00:43:52.000 You guys are awesome.

00:43:53.000 Thanks so much for subbing.

00:43:54.000 And we're really close to getting that gold medal.

00:43:55.000 But I got two other channels over a million.

00:43:57.000 So there's probably some overlap, you know, some people subscribe to all three, but there really are a lot of people who aren't, who are subscribed to only one or the other.

00:44:03.000 Then I got, you know, 790,000 or so on Twitter, and I'm like, man, if I could get just 10,000 people giving 10 bucks a month, we would not have to worry about any of the censorship.

00:44:16.000 Out of the millions of people, just 10,000 people.

00:44:19.000 I mean, man, for that matter, even if it was just 5,000 people, that's crazy.

00:44:25.000 And you know what the crazy thing is?

00:44:26.000 The leftists do it.

00:44:27.000 They do it and they do it really easily.

00:44:29.000 That's why some of the biggest podcasts in the world, I'm not going to name any of them, but they make like, they're making like 150K on subscribers every month.

00:44:37.000 And I see that and I'm like, they don't care about what they say because they know they're directly funded by the people who like their content.

00:44:44.000 Whereas I made the mistake of just doing a traditional ad model, which means if I get nuked, business over.

00:44:51.000 So I was like, we got to start this.

00:44:52.000 I should have done it a long time ago.

00:44:54.000 And now we really got to start pushing it and making that the core function of what we do.

00:44:57.000 Because if you're, you're, you're, you're better off with 10,000 dedicated fans giving 10 bucks a month, because then you can, you can really run a business with that kind of money.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, when YouTube demonetized me at first, I was like, oh my god, I'm going to lose all my money.

00:45:10.000 This is horrible.

00:45:11.000 And then I'm like, well, I just got thrown into the deep end.

00:45:14.000 I could sink or swim.

00:45:15.000 And I was like, let me swim.

00:45:17.000 And I set up a similar system that you have.

00:45:19.000 And I started making shirts.

00:45:21.000 And again, people need to understand one thing that you bring up is this extremely important point that you as the individual watching right now have the ultimate power to decide With your attention, with your votes, with your dollars, with your clicks, what prevails?

00:45:36.000 If you want the nonsense to prevail, you're going to focus on the nonsense and give your energy and time and focus on that nonsense.

00:45:43.000 If you want good things to prevail, you're going to make sure those good things do prevail by investing in them with your time.

00:45:49.000 We used to do, uh, when I used to do fundraising, they would have these little gimmicks where they'd be like, it's 10 bucks a month, not even a cup of coffee every day.

00:45:57.000 So, you know what you do?

00:45:57.000 Instead of getting that venti, you get a grande instead, and boom!

00:46:00.000 You're supporting your favorite creator.

00:46:02.000 At the time, we were talking about non-profits, so we're like, you want to save the rainforest, right?

00:46:05.000 Forgo one cup of coffee per month, boom!

00:46:07.000 You're saving the rainforest.

00:46:08.000 You got to do what you can to help support the things you like.

00:46:11.000 But I really want to stress that point.

00:46:13.000 Out of the, you know, combined follower count of all of my socials, around like four plus million, We only need 10,000 people.

00:46:19.000 And then we're totally financially independent from this entire system.

00:46:22.000 But I'm talking like 10,000 people at 10 bucks a month is expansion territory.

00:46:26.000 Like new buildings, new staff, new news.

00:46:29.000 That's the territory we want to get into.

00:46:30.000 Now with Jack Dorsey saying it's going to keep expanding, I'm thinking maybe I should just stop using Twitter.

00:46:37.000 Look, I like the Twitter list I've curated of people I follow because I got a good balance and I use it for news aggregation.

00:46:44.000 Getting banned would kind of...

00:46:46.000 You know, hurt my ability to follow the news.

00:46:48.000 So why bother even contributing to the noise?

00:46:50.000 So, like, do you, like, given the fact that the subscription model and this ad model is getting more popular with, like, people on the left and people on the right, do you think, like, the concept of, like, the public square is gonna be, like, outdated or is, like, even overrated for some people?

00:47:03.000 Twitter destroyed it.

00:47:03.000 Oh, it is.

00:47:04.000 Yeah?

00:47:05.000 Twitter really is the place that destroyed it, because that's where up-to-date political news happens.

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:10.000 You know, Facebook is like a bulletin board where you walk up and you put something on the wall and you walk away.

00:47:14.000 Uh-huh.

00:47:14.000 Twitter is like the people standing there talking to each other.

00:47:17.000 So them taking the power and giving it to the left, and then the left acting like it's not happening,

00:47:17.000 Each other, yeah.

00:47:22.000 is what's the end of even moderate views in this country.

00:47:26.000 When do you think that switch happened though?

00:47:27.000 I mean it's gradual, it's grains of sand in the heat, right?

00:47:29.000 So over time, Twitter has become more and more prominent.

00:47:32.000 I think Donald Trump played a huge role in it.

00:47:34.000 Donald Trump should have gone to another platform.

00:47:36.000 He didn't do it.

00:47:37.000 Do you think that was like the guilt for them?

00:47:39.000 Like, yeah, we did not... We, the fact that we covered the WikiLeaks story and all this, like, gave credence to this guy and now he's in, like, the president's seat.

00:47:48.000 Like, that's like the guilt for them?

00:47:50.000 Yeah, maybe, but the real issue is that Jack Dorsey seems to have never talked to a conservative before.

00:47:55.000 Yeah.

00:47:55.000 So like when he went on the Joe Rogan podcast, it was aptly and accurately pointed out by many conservatives.

00:48:00.000 They were like, why are four liberals sitting in a room talking about banning conservatives and two liberals are defending conservatives instead of having the conservatives actually in the defend themselves?

00:48:09.000 Oh, that's a great point.

00:48:11.000 Joe asked me to come.

00:48:12.000 I'm admittedly a liberal on most of these issues, but I believe in freedom.

00:48:16.000 I don't think the current version of liberal is even liberal.

00:48:19.000 These are like authoritarian.

00:48:21.000 But it's not even, you know, the people who say they're liberals are just tribal Democrats.

00:48:24.000 You know, so that we might agree on some economic issues, but they don't agree on freedom.

00:48:27.000 Yeah.

00:48:28.000 So it really just comes down to the fact that Jack doesn't know... He lives in a bubble, a far-left, ultra-progressive bubble.

00:48:35.000 Echo chamber, yeah.

00:48:36.000 And he thinks it's normal.

00:48:38.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 So he's like, when he hears a conservative say, I think, you know, he'll hear a conservative say, we need to have better border security to make sure that we can protect our jobs, he goes, a Nazi!

00:48:47.000 It's like, actually, that's most of the country, but you live in a bubble.

00:48:52.000 So I'll tell you one thing, man.

00:48:54.000 When I heard, there are some leftists who have shows where they've got like 30,000 or 50,000 people giving every month.

00:49:02.000 And I'm like, that one leftist dude is a millionaire because leftists are collectivists.

00:49:08.000 Because when the authority says, rally to me, and they raise their fist, they all say, yes, it's what they believe in.

00:49:14.000 Conservatives don't really do that.

00:49:15.000 Conservatives are more individualists.

00:49:17.000 So I think this is a big weakness for conservatives.

00:49:20.000 You know, Crowder has Mug Club, so he's absolutely been on the game with this.

00:49:24.000 And you think about it, when YouTube nuked him, he was fine.

00:49:28.000 Why?

00:49:29.000 He's got Mug Club.

00:49:29.000 He has the backing of the Mug Club.

00:49:30.000 Yup, yup.

00:49:31.000 And I was like, man, what am I doing?

00:49:32.000 I was like, we really gotta make sure we have that barrier.

00:49:35.000 I've taken donations from people for a long time.

00:49:37.000 I never, like, stress it to an extreme degree.

00:49:40.000 But this is the legit reason to make sure that We're hearing the words straight out of Jack Dorsey's mouth.

00:49:47.000 The bombs are dropping.

00:49:48.000 And then we're seeing it right after January 6th.

00:49:52.000 Instagram actually started deleting a lot of photojournalists, like a lot of their posts just from the 6th.

00:49:57.000 So now if you just report the news, like straight news... That's what happened to me, dude.

00:50:00.000 You're now going to get shadowbanned, censored, you're going to get warnings, you're going to get all this stuff deleted.

00:50:05.000 So, first it starts off with Trump, and then we're just going to start moving into the people who just do straight news.

00:50:10.000 Like, people that I literally just do news, I'll see them get their stuff nuked on Instagram, Facebook, and then we're going to see it on Twitter too.

00:50:17.000 I mean this is just it's horrible I mean the thing is for me is it's easy I would love to be in a position to be like I want to delete Twitter but I'm still on the on the up-and-coming where I need Twitter for the type of work that I do you know field correspondent journalism so very tough spot for people like me right now and it's just like well you know what do we do at this point?

00:50:32.000 But you don't have to contribute to, like, the core of what's causing Twitter to be a problem.

00:50:38.000 You can post news, you can follow news.

00:50:41.000 I'm talking about, you know, when I tweet jokes or trolling, it gives people a reason to use the platform.

00:50:47.000 So for me, I'm kind of like, maybe I should just use it as a business vehicle of reading what people are talking about.

00:50:53.000 You know, I used to do segments where I would see someone, like, do a Twitter thread, and then I would argue a little bit, and I was just like, I don't care about these people.

00:51:01.000 I don't care about taking some verified blue check with a million followers and then doing a video where I'm like, well, here's why they're wrong.

00:51:06.000 I'm not interested.

00:51:07.000 Maybe sometimes, but I've tried to get away from a lot of that stuff and just keep the focus of the news.

00:51:11.000 And I think the more we keep our addictions to Twitter for whatever reason, then, you know, it's just going to keep this, this, it's going to keep dominating the system.

00:51:18.000 And it's, it's our collective voices using the platform that gives Jack Dorsey the power to decide what the culture is going to be in the next decade or so.

00:51:25.000 Which is why Gab is great.

00:51:27.000 And every year it gets a little bit, like from my perspective, every year it's getting worse on Twitter because last year, one thing that I was able to, not me, like report on a lot, but I was able to use my platform to communicate with these journalists is, last year, and it's still the problem now, is the problem with the Mexican cartels in Mexico.

00:51:47.000 So one thing that I was able to discover with Twitter is Twitter actually, at least last year, they were letting a lot of those videos just flow on and we were able to show the American audience like, hey, this is what goes on in Mexico with the cartels and stuff.

00:51:58.000 But then as soon as the new year started, they banned all these like violence videos, which I get.

00:52:03.000 But I still think.

00:52:04.000 I still think that Twitter needs to respect the newsworthy of these subjects, because now we don't see them.

00:52:08.000 And then also too, around, I remember in the beginning of 2019, you can't even see these videos now, is when Iraq was starting to protest.

00:52:15.000 You would see how the government was doing the internet blackout in Iraq.

00:52:19.000 They were killing a lot of the protesters who were unarmed.

00:52:21.000 You got to see that stuff on Twitter.

00:52:23.000 And as soon as 2020 started, they don't even let that stuff fly.

00:52:26.000 So it's like now we can't even inform the public of like these real situations in these countries too.

00:52:30.000 Well, another thing you really need to understand here is that they're ruling with fear.

00:52:34.000 They're setting up this chilling effect.

00:52:36.000 Look, innocent people got hit who just report on the news, they get taken away.

00:52:41.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if potentially, this is just my theory, Jack Dorsey released that video himself to set up this chilling effect saying, you better behave, you better do what we say, you better censor yourself, or we're gonna totally cut you off because more cuts are coming.

00:52:56.000 And they knew what they were doing because when we look at the onset of like, Google and Google Video, YouTube, BlipTV, whatever.

00:53:04.000 It was first new kind of software, new systems, new websites that were very kind of out there in the open.

00:53:11.000 If you liked the video, if you subscribe to a channel, you would actually see the channel.

00:53:16.000 The channels that were most viewed were listed.

00:53:18.000 These are the most viewed channels.

00:53:19.000 Of course, a lot of anti-establishment, anti-corporate, dominant stuff came up, and it scared the other bejesus out of people.

00:53:28.000 And they were like crack dealers, because that little whiff of freedom was a little crack.

00:53:32.000 You know, in New York City, when I grew up, crack dealers would give crack to people who were downtrodden, so they get for free at first.

00:53:39.000 They would get downtrodden, they would take the crack, then they would become crackheads and customers that they would, of course, Yeah, they always had the free samples for a reason.

00:53:49.000 They did the same thing with social media and that's why some people akin social media addiction to alcoholism even.

00:53:57.000 There's been some studies showing that it could be even more severe than chemical dependency.

00:54:02.000 Your link to this cyborg machine that is literally programmed to keep you addicted to it as they even work with gambling institutions to try to gamify everything so you're stuck into the gaze blindly looking giving away your soul to it that's why they never got rid of follower count or retweet count they talked about it and they never did and the reason is they know

00:54:26.000 What drives people to use Twitter is earning points.

00:54:29.000 Endorphins.

00:54:30.000 Endorphins.

00:54:31.000 That's the thesis of the dopamine hit.

00:54:32.000 That was the whole concept of social dilemma.

00:54:34.000 They shed a really good light on it.

00:54:36.000 This is actually designed to keep your attention.

00:54:39.000 Everything about it, the fact that when you scroll up and it kind of gives you a bounce effect

00:54:44.000 and kind of refreshes, that's the lottery machine.

00:54:46.000 They work with the top psychology experts in the world to try to get you hooked on it like you're a drug addict.

00:54:54.000 And that's why Luke, I know Luke has actually said this before,

00:54:56.000 so it's not anything new, but that's why if you look at teenage girls,

00:55:00.000 their depression is as high as it's ever been because the endorphin, like,

00:55:03.000 oh my God, he liked my picture.

00:55:04.000 Don't look at that.

00:55:05.000 Friend request.

00:55:06.000 Now that we're constantly bringing this up, go to TimCast.com and become a member

00:55:10.000 because I can't imagine they're gonna be happy.

00:55:14.000 I mean, yeah, but I'm loving this segment.

00:55:17.000 I'm like, yes, yes, let's explain to people the very serious threat we're facing and why.

00:55:21.000 I'm like, we need to build this backboard safety net kind of deal because my Facebook is effectively shut down.

00:55:28.000 I'm allowed to post, but I can't monetize.

00:55:31.000 And they've shadow banned, basically.

00:55:34.000 So it's effectively done.

00:55:35.000 Why?

00:55:35.000 Because on January 6th, I made a video saying, here's what's happening.

00:55:39.000 Man, this is crazy.

00:55:40.000 Look at this.

00:55:40.000 Look at that.

00:55:41.000 Look at this.

00:55:41.000 That was it.

00:55:42.000 Can't allow it.

00:55:43.000 News is not allowed.

00:55:44.000 So, gone.

00:55:45.000 But I want to talk about something in this.

00:55:47.000 You know, when we're talking about addiction, you got to think about what the addiction drives people to do to fulfill that addiction.

00:55:54.000 We've all heard the story about the dude willing to go to great lengths to get that next hit.

00:55:58.000 You know, they make TV shows about it.

00:56:01.000 People want drugs.

00:56:02.000 They'll sell their possessions.

00:56:03.000 They'll rob from their families.

00:56:04.000 They'll do things with people they wouldn't normally do because they're desperate for that hit.

00:56:10.000 That brings me to this next story.

00:56:13.000 This is from AZ Central.

00:56:25.000 Now, for many of you, you may not know who this guy is.

00:56:28.000 Many of you may.

00:56:29.000 But he's been involved a lot in politics.

00:56:31.000 He used to work for BuzzFeed.

00:56:32.000 He then worked for Milo Yiannopoulos.

00:56:34.000 And I've actually interviewed him in the past.

00:56:37.000 He was associated with right-wing groups, and then alt-right groups, and then argued that he wasn't alt-right, and then it goes back and forth, but the reality is, I think what we've learned from his time at BuzzFeed, his attempt at being a rapper, is that he's actually just driven to get likes.

00:56:50.000 He's driven to get attention on social media, and I think his story, and everything this guy's done, he's filming himself, storming the Capitol.

00:56:59.000 He's pointing the camera and he's like, Trump's going to be really happy with us.

00:57:02.000 And he picks up Pelosi's phone or whatever, and he's making jokes.

00:57:05.000 He's gone so far off the deep end.

00:57:07.000 There are a lot of people, right?

00:57:09.000 So before we read into this, I want to mention Joey Salads, right?

00:57:11.000 You guys know Joey Salads?

00:57:13.000 We had him on the show.

00:57:14.000 He made a YouTube video where he hired black men.

00:57:18.000 to vandalize a car with Trump support, like Trump merchandise in it.

00:57:21.000 And what he did was, he was like, I'm gonna leave this car with Trump supporter stuff in it in this neighborhood and see what happens. 0.84

00:57:27.000 And the next scene is black men damaging the vehicle.

00:57:30.000 Somebody in the apartment above filmed it and saw what Joey had done.

00:57:36.000 And then right when he released the video, sent the footage to I think H3H3 and then busted him staging this attack, which was, and many people said it was racist or fueling racism, whatever you wanna call it.

00:57:45.000 And so I snapped at the dude.

00:57:46.000 I was yelling at him.

00:57:47.000 I was like, this is disgusting behavior.

00:57:49.000 But Joey, you know, he apologized.

00:57:52.000 Most people just don't give him a chance at redemption, but I've always said, if you don't at least let someone try to do better, they won't.

00:57:58.000 They'll go the other direction.

00:57:59.000 So I had a conversation with him and what he said to me and what he said to many other people is that he didn't realize how far he had gone in making this content and chasing after the money and the views.

00:58:09.000 Now you look at someone like Baked Alaska, he's got no limit.

00:58:12.000 It's all about the next one-up to get that hit, to make that money, to get those likes, to get that traffic.

00:58:17.000 And then he winds up... Listen, here's the story.

00:58:20.000 I'll give you the gist of it.

00:58:21.000 He jumped bail, according to azcentral, to go to DC in the first place, breaking the law.

00:58:25.000 He breaks the law going in the building and films himself doing it.

00:58:29.000 And then, he doesn't show up for court, and his lawyer can't get a hold of him.

00:58:32.000 He has been driven to the extreme and chasing after this, and that's the crazy thing.

00:58:36.000 He got started at BuzzFeed.

00:58:38.000 Ben Smith, former editor-in-chief, I believe, was the one who hired him.

00:58:42.000 He wrote an op-ed about it.

00:58:43.000 You take this young person, you put them in this environment where you're like, get those likes, get those likes!

00:58:47.000 This is what BuzzFeed's all about!

00:58:48.000 Get those shares, get those shares!

00:58:50.000 And I don't think BuzzFeed gets to absolve themselves of the responsibility of what they created in this dude.

00:58:57.000 Well, if you look at the inner workings of BuzzFeed, they actually have entire walls dedicated to how many likes, how many hits an article gets.

00:59:06.000 Don't look at me like that, Lydia.

00:59:08.000 I know I did.

00:59:09.000 It was a fraudulent slip, but they incentivize you.

00:59:13.000 Potato, potato.

00:59:15.000 They incentivize, I'm Polish and dyslexic, they incentivize, literally, get as many hits as you can.

00:59:21.000 So is it fair to say that Baked Alaska is a product of BuzzFeed and BuzzFeed Radicalized?

00:59:26.000 Yes, BuzzFeed Radicalized.

00:59:27.000 I'm not trying to make a joke about it though, it's true.

00:59:30.000 I don't think he is.

00:59:30.000 I think he was already like that because even before the whole capital thing, I would actually see some of his videos just on Twitter with the circulating.

00:59:36.000 It'll just be him walking into like a grocery store with no mask.

00:59:38.000 And then people would tell him to wear a mask and then he'll tell him like to F off or whatever.

00:59:41.000 The BuzzFeed stuff was years and years and years ago.

00:59:44.000 Nobody knew who he was when he worked at BuzzFeed.

00:59:46.000 Oh yeah, I know.

00:59:46.000 And he gets hired for this job where they incentivize his behavior.

00:59:49.000 Bro, those things you do that shot content, you can make money doing it.

00:59:52.000 He was like breeded in that system.

00:59:54.000 And like, there's no wonder that he right now, like that became his whole model.

00:59:58.000 Well, let's read this.

00:59:59.000 So, this is from AC Central.

01:00:00.000 They say a Scottsdale judge issued a warrant for the arrest of far-right social media personality Tim Baked Alaska Giannette after he said Giannette violated conditions of his release by leaving the state last week to go to Washington, where he apparently live-streamed the U.S.

01:00:14.000 Capitol riot.

01:00:15.000 Jeanette already was facing misdemeanor charges of assault, disorderly conduct, and criminal trespass in Scottsdale City Court after police alleged she refused to leave a bar and then pepper sprayed an employee.

01:00:26.000 He had been released in that case with the agreement he not leave the state without the court's permission.

01:00:30.000 Didn't he film himself doing that?

01:00:31.000 Yes.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:32.000 He filmed himself on that DLive livestream.

01:00:36.000 Spraying somebody.

01:00:37.000 Yeah.

01:00:38.000 Picks up the Senate phone and acts like he's talking to Donald Trump.

01:00:41.000 It's an all bad video.

01:00:44.000 So they say, Judge James Blake was not pleased that the 33 year old Jeanette chose to skip his court hearing without explanation. 0.90

01:00:50.000 And even Jeanette's attorney, Zach Thornley, was unable to reach his client on the phone during the court hearing.

01:00:56.000 Now my understanding is that DLive banned him.

01:00:58.000 Yeah.

01:00:59.000 He is, look, I remember when he was posting these, like, ironic Nazi jokes on Twitter, and then he, I interviewed him, and he said, look, it was just supposed to be edgy, and it was supposed to trigger the left who was freaking out, and it was a mistake, and I was like, okay, and then he does it again, and again, and again, and then he gets banned.

01:01:14.000 He had, like, 250,000 followers on Twitter.

01:01:16.000 Oh, huge, yeah.

01:01:17.000 And he gets banned because he just would not stop.

01:01:21.000 He was constantly trying to one-up everything.

01:01:22.000 So I was like, okay, dude was clearly lying to me.

01:01:25.000 Now we see where he's gone since then.

01:01:28.000 It is just a constant one-up.

01:01:29.000 I tell you, man, when you're an addict and you are chasing after that hit, I don't care if it's social media or drugs, this dude is now a fugitive from the law.

01:01:38.000 Isn't it crazy how, like, we talk about social media being addictive, how you guys are mentioning that.

01:01:43.000 Luke, you said it was like alcoholism.

01:01:46.000 Something crazier than that.

01:01:47.000 Here's a guy now who his lawyer can't find him and the judge wants him locked up.

01:01:51.000 And he's probably he's probably facing federal charges for the right.

01:01:54.000 This this what we're talking about.

01:01:56.000 That's that's Scottsdale, Arizona.

01:01:57.000 That's Arizona, right?

01:01:59.000 That's not we're not even talking about what's what's going to happen with the FBI.

01:02:01.000 Federal prison to own the lips.

01:02:03.000 No, but for the likes, man, that's insane.

01:02:06.000 This is the important thing, right?

01:02:07.000 I don't think Baked Alaska is far right.

01:02:10.000 I think he's just saying whatever he can to whoever will listen. 0.98

01:02:15.000 Social media prostitute. 0.89

01:02:16.000 Here's what happened to a lot of people on Twitter. 0.93

01:02:19.000 They would post a meme, and if it was like left or right, probably right because most memes are being produced by the right.

01:02:24.000 Right, yeah.

01:02:25.000 They get a ton of likes.

01:02:26.000 Feels good!

01:02:27.000 A lot of shares, more followers, more followers!

01:02:29.000 So they one-up it.

01:02:30.000 And they chase after it with no end.

01:02:33.000 No point of self-reflection.

01:02:35.000 At no point do they say, hey, whoa, maybe that's too much, like Joey Salads did.

01:02:39.000 Only until he got caught and shut down did Joey realize, like, I didn't realize what I was doing.

01:02:43.000 And now he's stopped and now his videos are like hokey pranks with his girlfriend where like he's oh he puts like sprays

01:02:48.000 with Tim I don't know really quick. Hey attention is a hell of a

01:02:52.000 drug. Yeah, man, Tim I don't know if you ever or Luke if you guys in Sonic if

01:02:56.000 you guys heard of this social media girl She was it was a couple years ago 0.94

01:02:59.000 Her name was because now that we're speaking about this just brings about to my head

01:03:03.000 Her name was little Tay and she was like she was like a 10 year old girl regular girl and her brother

01:03:09.000 Try to groom her to be this like fake social media Rapper and basically she would her videos would be like, 0.99

01:03:16.000 you know, you put the camera on her. She'd be like, I'm little Tay

01:03:18.000 I'm 10 years old. She just have money. She's like I'm rich.

01:03:21.000 This is my Ferrari and She just got into it

01:03:24.000 And I think I forgot what investigative reporter was able to pull the videos where her brother is literally

01:03:29.000 Training her behind a green screen. She's just like a regular 10-year-old. She's like, what do I say?

01:03:32.000 Say like this be more ignorant and it was just now now that we're speaking about that addiction 0.85

01:03:37.000 And it was like, it was that too, like they were just, that likes, that likes, that likes. 0.88

01:03:40.000 and there was fake image there was cases of people abusing their children for

01:03:45.000 YouTube videos yeah exactly that you know Philip DeFranco even called out and

01:03:49.000 brought to everyone's attention that was able to actually take them down because

01:03:53.000 if it wasn't for individuals like like Philip DeFranco to to actually address

01:03:57.000 this no one would have known they would have kept growing in numbers but he and

01:04:01.000 I think a couple of his viewers took all of the videos and they made a compilation

01:04:05.000 a compilation and it was akin to child abuse of them putting their children in

01:04:10.000 front of the camera making them fight doing everything for attention slapping

01:04:13.000 them slapping them hitting them I mean, it's just absolutely crazy how low people will go. 0.99

01:04:18.000 There was a video on YouTube of a dad giving his daughter a vaccine and like pulling her pants down and putting the needle in her butt. 0.99

01:04:26.000 And it had like 12 million views. 0.78

01:04:30.000 I don't, I don't, it wasn't in America, but there was this phenomenon that happened on YouTube where bots figured out what was getting clicks and created these insane videos of like, you'd see these cartoon thumbnails of like a guy drinking out of a urinal.

01:04:45.000 And it's for real, like a cartoon.

01:04:47.000 And you click the video, and it's like, what was Spider-Man, Joker, and Elsa running around with music?

01:04:53.000 And then Elsa was pregnant, and Joker would have a gigantic syringe, because those were for some reason what the algorithm was promoting.

01:05:01.000 So these people are chasing after whatever they can get.

01:05:04.000 The algorithms are turning us into lunatics.

01:05:07.000 Dude, I get messages from people, man.

01:05:10.000 I don't know what's happened to my friends.

01:05:12.000 No joke.

01:05:13.000 I have left-wing friends who think that... I don't even want to get into the conspiracy stuff they believe, but it's like... You've heard of QAnon, you know why?

01:05:22.000 Because the media talks about it. 0.99

01:05:23.000 And they go, haha, look how dumb the right-wingers are. 0.98

01:05:26.000 But the right doesn't point the finger at the fringe conspiracies of the left and the things they believe. 0.99

01:05:32.000 Probably because that's not what the conservatives do.

01:05:34.000 They're focused on government, they're focused on seats of power.

01:05:36.000 But because the media is focused on this threat of QAnon, they don't talk about the left and the unhinged and insane conspiracies. 0.52

01:05:44.000 Like, we got a glimpse of it when MSNBC ran a segment where they claimed that Donald Trump was a Soviet KGB asset.

01:05:53.000 The Soviet Union, no joke, from the 80s.

01:05:56.000 They actually had a guy on and said, we got to consider that Trump may have been maybe an asset of Russia's going back to the 80s when they were part of the Soviet Union, dude.

01:06:04.000 Now that was a glimpse.

01:06:05.000 I tell you, man, I'm not going to name some of these people because they got a lot of followers, hundreds of thousands.

01:06:10.000 They've been on Twitter the entire time.

01:06:13.000 saying insane things well beyond what Q says.

01:06:16.000 So you hear about this QAnon stuff, and they'll be like, the Nighthawk is driving, and Silver Fox is gonna launch the missile, and then we're gonna see the indictments, and it's like, it means nothing.

01:06:26.000 And then you look at some of these people on the left, and they're like, murmurs are happening now at the DOJ, you know, they're turning, they're revolting, the Deep State is going to put, you know, Bannon on trial for treason, and he's gonna be executed.

01:06:37.000 It's the same thing.

01:06:39.000 But the media doesn't talk about it.

01:06:40.000 They give it a pass.

01:06:42.000 Well the mainstream media is now telling us that the biggest threat for our democracy for our existence are people's individual political opinion when in reality the threat is the social media it's leading people to hurt people it's leading people to exploit people it's leading people to break the laws and just in those particular instances that we noted here there's so many more there's there was a case in Indonesia where people were taking puppies And putting them in horrible predicament and then rescuing them and it was always the same puppy being rescued after his place there and they were manipulating the algorithm which that was incentivized promoted by YouTube just right now when you talked about that vaccine case I remember seeing on my on my newsfeed looking up you know stories

01:07:22.000 For this particular podcast, I've seen a vaccine proposal.

01:07:25.000 Someone getting a vaccine and proposing on social media to get the likes and attention.

01:07:30.000 So when we look at the bigger threat towards our existence, it's not people who say stuff on social media that you may not like.

01:07:37.000 It is social media that is the existential threat against humanity.

01:07:41.000 Just ban all of it.

01:07:42.000 And the crazy thing is... Ban all of it and ban us, whatever.

01:07:44.000 I don't care. 0.95

01:07:45.000 Humans have lost their minds. 0.96

01:07:46.000 This is nuts.

01:07:47.000 Yeah, and I mean, the funny thing is, it's not the funny thing, but it's just how media continues to divide us.

01:07:52.000 And I think I actually heard this yesterday on Tim's show, yesterday was the populace on the left and the right agree on so much.

01:07:59.000 Like if you just sat them at a dinner table, they would literally be shaking hands at the end of the dinner table.

01:08:03.000 Like, wow, we could probably take down the establishment.

01:08:05.000 But the media makes it seem like we're so divided.

01:08:08.000 Like at the end of the day, if you grab someone from the left and then the right, they say, hey, you know what?

01:08:11.000 Healthcare is screwing us over.

01:08:12.000 I want to send my kids to college.

01:08:14.000 I want to be able to work where I want.

01:08:15.000 I want to be able to raise a family on maybe on one income.

01:08:17.000 We agree on these things, but they're making it seem like we are now in a civil war.

01:08:22.000 We're two different countries.

01:08:23.000 It's just not the case.

01:08:23.000 I mentioned this on the show yesterday.

01:08:25.000 We were talking about the show Recess, the cartoon.

01:08:27.000 And I figured out who this guy was.

01:08:28.000 It's Randall Weems.

01:08:31.000 It's a cartoon called Recess, and it's about these kids, an eclectic bunch, a diverse bunch, mind you.

01:08:37.000 You've got different races, you've got the nerdy guy, you've got the fat kid, and then the regular kid or whatever, I don't know.

01:08:43.000 But there's this one kid who would always snitch to Miss Finster, and there's a quote.

01:08:48.000 Hey, let me play or I'll make up something to tell Miss Finster on you. 1.00

01:08:52.000 And this kid's like hunched back, and he's like the teacher.

01:08:55.000 He's always, you know, snitching on everybody.

01:08:58.000 That's a journalist.

01:08:59.000 That's a journalist today, all right?

01:09:01.000 What they do is they see people posting jokes and having a good time, and they go...

01:09:05.000 I'm gonna report you and they call they call someone at like a bank.

01:09:08.000 Did you know that?

01:09:09.000 There's a guy on Twitter who said something dumb and he's got a bank account with you and they're like We we don't serve them anymore. 0.97

01:09:15.000 We're gonna ban them. 0.99

01:09:16.000 Yeah shut down there fun.

01:09:18.000 Here's the best part Here's the best part the show recess is from when I was a kid, right?

01:09:23.000 and so I look up this wiki for recess and Randall Weems is Age 9, however, year of birth is 1988.

01:09:31.000 He's 32 years old.

01:09:34.000 That means he probably is at the age where he would work at BuzzFeed.

01:09:37.000 That's right.

01:09:39.000 So I'm telling you, man, these people, these journalists, are literally the Randall Weems of the world.

01:09:45.000 We were all having fun during recess, playing kickball.

01:09:47.000 Some of us were really good at it, some of us were bad at it.

01:09:50.000 Some of us were the weird loner kids who were hanging out, minding our own business, or you were the kid playing Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, and skateboarding.

01:09:56.000 But he was the... These journalists were the nasty little tattletales who were always sucking up to the teacher and just getting in everyone's way and everybody hated them. 0.96

01:10:05.000 I wonder if you all know the kind of person I'm talking about, and you can think like, oh man, I remember that kid. 0.98

01:10:09.000 I got one name.

01:10:10.000 Now they work at BuzzFeed.

01:10:11.000 Carla Mazza.

01:10:12.000 He's still a thing.

01:10:13.000 Oliver Darcy.

01:10:14.000 i think it's a little bit of a thing which all of our dark so much all of our

01:10:19.000 dark seems to me that only that only are the uh... media matters are journalists

01:10:22.000 playing playing the uh... the snitch wrote but the journals now are playing

01:10:26.000 the p r or where exactly where it now a politician would say something images

01:10:30.000 Like what happened to us holding the powerful accountable, now that we just do PR for them.

01:10:36.000 I'm not going to say the MSNBC's host name, but as soon as Biden got elected, she went on Twitter and said, this is a great day for America.

01:10:43.000 We finally have a president who doesn't lie.

01:10:45.000 It's like, you're a news person!

01:10:48.000 Hold them accountable.

01:10:49.000 So now, yeah, so now journalists run PR for these people.

01:10:51.000 And he lied about the Iraq war.

01:10:53.000 So like, yeah, let's not forget.

01:10:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:55.000 I mean, come on. 0.99

01:10:55.000 Biden is a bag of lies. 0.99

01:10:57.000 If a politician is not lying, it's not a politician. 0.98

01:11:00.000 I'm sorry.

01:11:01.000 But Luke, he tweets Black Lives Matter, so it's okay. 1.00

01:11:03.000 Again, it's okay.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, it's fine. 0.99

01:11:05.000 Doesn't matter that we bomb black lives in the Middle East, as long as we tweet it. 1.00

01:11:08.000 That's okay. 0.98

01:11:09.000 You know, Joe Biden is a lot of things.

01:11:11.000 And it's funny because everything the left says about Trump, you could point at Joe

01:11:16.000 Biden and be like, I'll give you some examples.

01:11:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:18.000 Oh, but it's corrupt.

01:11:19.000 We got China.

01:11:20.000 We got Ukraine.

01:11:21.000 We got the Bobulinski. 1.00

01:11:23.000 But Trump is a lecherous old man. 0.99

01:11:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:24.000 It's like, well, hold on there.

01:11:26.000 We got video after video after video of sleepy, creepy Joe touching them little

01:11:29.000 girls, man. 0.99

01:11:30.000 So look, you can tell from the media and I'm over talking about it, but I have to.

01:11:37.000 Like, let me rephrase that.

01:11:39.000 I'm sitting in my room, you know, I'm doing research, I'm reading the news.

01:11:41.000 And there are stories that I probably would have talked about a year ago where it's

01:11:45.000 like double standard in media.

01:11:46.000 And I'd be like, can you believe this double standard?

01:11:47.000 Now I'm like, so what?

01:11:49.000 It's life.

01:11:49.000 It's the new normal.

01:11:50.000 We know the media is lying half the time.

01:11:53.000 More than half the time.

01:11:54.000 I mean, come on, CNN just had John Sullivan as a correspondent.

01:11:58.000 CNN brought on... Okay, so CNN goes, these are insurrectionist domestic terrorists. 0.64

01:12:03.000 Now for our next guest, one of the Demacians, John Sullivan, a guy who was arrested for egging them on and inciting the riot. 0.92

01:12:09.000 And he's not a Trump supporter.

01:12:11.000 He even said he wasn't.

01:12:12.000 And they have him on because they can point the finger at the right and they get away with it.

01:12:17.000 That's creepy, man.

01:12:18.000 Yeah.

01:12:19.000 Hey, we're all gonna be waiting for that update on CNN that they interviewed a criminal.

01:12:23.000 I got a feeling that update won't be coming.

01:12:25.000 Well, I'll tell you.

01:12:26.000 We talk about journalists snitching on people, but let's talk about the real creepy 1984 stuff.

01:12:30.000 This next story is from Fox 13.

01:12:32.000 Teen daughter turns in family for taking part in Capitol insurrection.

01:12:37.000 They say an 18-year-old girl outed her own mother, uncle, and aunt for taking part in last week's U.S.

01:12:42.000 Capitol insurrection that left five people dead.

01:12:45.000 Helena Duke posted images to Twitter of her mother, Therese, inside the Capitol on January 6.

01:12:49.000 Hi mom, remember the time you told me I shouldn't go to BLM protests because they could get violent?

01:12:54.000 This you?

01:12:54.000 Tweeted Duke?

01:12:55.000 In a video on one of her daughter's tweets, Therese Duke could be seen arguing with a police officer.

01:13:01.000 Another tweet featured photos of all three of her family members inside the Capitol along with their names.

01:13:06.000 Hi, this is the liberal lesbian of the family who has been kicked out multiple times for her views and for going to BLM protests to care what happens to me. 1.00

01:13:13.000 So...

01:13:14.000 Because she has little in the way of financial help from her family, Duke has set up a GoFundMe account that has already raised $40,000.

01:13:20.000 $40,000. Oh, I didn't even know that part of so okay that made it way. Hold on can we can we do an inflationary

01:13:27.000 comparison between 30 pieces of silver and $40,000

01:13:30.000 At the moment I have no idea how I will be paying for college as I have little financial support

01:13:35.000 I have a dream of one day becoming a lawyer, but I need help to get there.

01:13:39.000 I hope to attend college and then go into the Peace Corps.

01:13:41.000 Show it on the donation page.

01:13:42.000 Bravo!

01:13:44.000 You have lost your mother, but you've made $40,000.

01:13:46.000 Hope it was worth it.

01:13:47.000 Yeah.

01:13:48.000 Well, let me say something.

01:13:50.000 Look, people should not have been storming the Capitol.

01:13:53.000 And these people who committed the crimes, and we saw people die there, they need to be held accountable.

01:14:00.000 But there's something particularly twisted about turning in your family and then raising money off of it.

01:14:07.000 If she called the FBI privately and said, I know who that is.

01:14:12.000 Oh my God.

01:14:13.000 That's still kind of like, man, it's a tough question, but blood is thicker than water.

01:14:18.000 There are challenges though, sometimes doing the right thing and holding those within your own groups and your own family accountable when they do something very seriously wrong.

01:14:25.000 It's another thing to post on Twitter.

01:14:27.000 Hey, look, that's my mom. 0.99

01:14:29.000 Give me money.

01:14:30.000 Welcome to a brave new world.

01:14:32.000 Well, more like 1984, sorry.

01:14:33.000 What's your thoughts on this, Luke?

01:14:34.000 I know you've been in 1984, man.

01:14:36.000 So, what are your thoughts first?

01:14:38.000 Luke broke.

01:14:39.000 He just like... Yeah, oh gosh.

01:14:44.000 Luke's like, I told you so.

01:14:48.000 I'm far, far beyond I told you so.

01:14:50.000 I've been there a couple weeks ago.

01:14:52.000 It's more like...

01:14:54.000 Yeah, okay.

01:14:56.000 I think, you know, social media also gives you a false sense of community, a false sense of acceptance.

01:15:01.000 It all goes along with the trends.

01:15:03.000 And I think it's fair to say that this person wouldn't do this if she wasn't incentivized to get likes and tweets and responses.

01:15:12.000 Now, of course, it's also fair to say we don't know the exact relationship they had with their mother or their father.

01:15:19.000 So it's not that, you know, we can't judge here because we don't know what happened back and forth, but for it to end up at this stage where it's this public and this nasty and the media celebrating it by highlighting it and talking about it and this being incentivized in the algorithm, it's something that's, you know, awfully wrong in my opinion.

01:15:40.000 It is the twisted nature of social media and the current media ecosystem.

01:15:43.000 Look at what happened with What's-Her-Face's daughter. 0.99

01:15:46.000 Who's Kellyanne Conway? 0.98

01:15:49.000 Her daughter is like saying a bunch of private family stuff and the media is basically getting off to it.

01:15:55.000 Yeah.

01:15:56.000 And it's like, dude, first of all, I gotta be honest.

01:15:59.000 I look at George Conway and Kellyanne Conway and I'm kind of like, is that real?

01:16:02.000 That's upsetting.

01:16:02.000 Yeah.

01:16:03.000 No, is that real?

01:16:04.000 Yeah.

01:16:04.000 Is this like reality TV?

01:16:05.000 It's like Big Boss.

01:16:06.000 Yeah.

01:16:06.000 No, like they're a married couple.

01:16:07.000 One's anti-Trump and one's pro-Trump.

01:16:09.000 It's like a sitcom.

01:16:10.000 Yeah, it really is, huh?

01:16:11.000 He's hating Trump and she's loving it.

01:16:13.000 It's the Odd Family.

01:16:15.000 And their daughter is like, and I have to post on TikTok.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, she's making TikToks like, yeah, Corbett, Corbett. 1.00

01:16:19.000 No, but it's like, I find it creepy that this kid can get on social media and the big news companies They're celebrating.

01:16:30.000 Yeah, well, they're salivating.

01:16:31.000 They see this little, this young girl.

01:16:33.000 She was like 15 years old.

01:16:34.000 Yeah, she was.

01:16:35.000 I also like thinking from their point of view, like the kid's point of view to what Luke said, it's like the sense of community they get from social media is way more important than their own family.

01:16:45.000 Yeah.

01:16:45.000 Which I think is like the sadder and the more grave part.

01:16:48.000 Like in no wall, I would like think about the fact that, oh, Twitter can replace my family, let alone the fact that I would make money off of it.

01:16:55.000 Yep, so that's the more concerning part.

01:16:57.000 It's the GoFundMe, it's the PayPal post, it's the raising money.

01:17:00.000 It's the interviews that she gets with these media heads.

01:17:03.000 I think she already did an interview with Good Morning America.

01:17:05.000 With the girl who turned into Taylor?

01:17:07.000 Yeah, she's already going big.

01:17:09.000 I'm going to be speaking for the Latinos on this one.

01:17:13.000 We would never do that because we get a chancla straight to the face. 1.00

01:17:15.000 That would be a death sentence for Latinos. 1.00

01:17:17.000 So we would get the chancla to the face. 1.00

01:17:20.000 There would be a wooden spoon.

01:17:26.000 From the Indian family perspective, we would probably not have social media until we were 18.

01:17:29.000 We were 18.

01:17:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yes.

01:17:31.000 Smart.

01:17:31.000 Perfect, I love that.

01:17:32.000 Well, in capitalist America, children sell you for cash.

01:17:38.000 Yes.

01:17:38.000 Well, that's what it is though.

01:17:40.000 The only reason she was willing to do this is because she knew she could make money. 0.81

01:17:42.000 $40,000.

01:17:42.000 That's a lot of money.

01:17:44.000 Wow.

01:17:46.000 That's a lot of silver.

01:17:47.000 That's more than 30 pieces.

01:17:51.000 Probably like a staff position at Media Matters as well.

01:17:53.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:17:55.000 Well, think about it.

01:17:55.000 What's your family for, right?

01:17:57.000 I mean, first of all, they're your family.

01:17:58.000 You care about them.

01:17:59.000 They set you straight.

01:18:00.000 But the point of, the reason why we develop social bonds as like people in society is that we survive when we stick to our families.

01:18:08.000 Now here's this young woman who's found a better way than her own family.

01:18:14.000 See, what's her parents, what are they really gonna get for her?

01:18:16.000 She has a place to stay, she's never kicked out, she'll never be homeless.

01:18:19.000 Yeah, but if she sells them, if she sells them, you know, for 40,000 pieces of green paper, She gets 40,000 bucks! 0.92

01:18:28.000 That's more than her family could offer.

01:18:30.000 Think about this.

01:18:31.000 If protecting your family provides certain resources for you to survive, and selling them out provides more, you can see what some people are willing to do to get that.

01:18:39.000 Right.

01:18:40.000 That's twisted stuff, man.

01:18:42.000 It's a big part of what we've seen with Black Lives Matter wanting to disrupt the nuclear family. 1.00

01:18:46.000 It is all good for that ideology.

01:18:49.000 Your cause.

01:18:49.000 Your cause is central to whatever you stand for.

01:18:52.000 It doesn't matter your close ties.

01:18:53.000 It doesn't matter what your family is.

01:18:55.000 It doesn't matter your principle.

01:18:56.000 If you're for this cause, nothing else matters.

01:18:59.000 Well, in 1984, you know, the fictional book, they indoctrinated the children to be the snitch squads, making sure that they would get all the adults in trouble for wrong think.

01:19:09.000 And when you look at the parallels, I mean, I think there's some, I mean, I don't want to be hyperbolic.

01:19:14.000 Obviously, there's not an exact comparison, but there's definitely a slippery slope that we're heading towards, especially giving all of our power up to these tech billionaire Giants that are unaccountable, do whatever they want, and control the sphere of conversation.

01:19:30.000 But not only the conversation, also thought.

01:19:32.000 When you have that important aspect of controlling what people can and cannot think, what they can and cannot see, you have emperor god-like powers that could influence children in the most awful God has forgiven ways that you can't even imagine.

01:19:49.000 What do you think Jack Dorsey thinks?

01:19:52.000 If you were to go to him and say, Jack, children are turning in their parents for money because of what you built.

01:19:59.000 Do you think he would care?

01:20:00.000 I don't think he sees that though.

01:20:02.000 I'm saying if you said it to him, do you think he would care?

01:20:04.000 No.

01:20:04.000 I don't think he would care.

01:20:05.000 I think he'd be like, well, you know, people say whatever they want.

01:20:09.000 And, you know, we discovered Twitter, we didn't invent it.

01:20:12.000 So, you know, it's maybe unfortunate that they did this.

01:20:15.000 That's the thing, like, he pretends that it's still a platform, like, when it comes to matters like this.

01:20:21.000 But like, when it comes to matters like people on the right saying about things, like, then he becomes a publisher about it.

01:20:26.000 Then I won't allow, like, things to, like, stand in my way.

01:20:29.000 It was, you know, I think I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they said they discovered Twitter.

01:20:34.000 They didn't invent it.

01:20:35.000 Oh, exactly.

01:20:35.000 They fell upon it.

01:20:36.000 Exactly.

01:20:37.000 Yeah.

01:20:37.000 They were talking about how people started developing a culture on Twitter.

01:20:40.000 Like the idea of the at symbol was created by users who were trying to make it so when you'd search, you'd see you could search at someone's name.

01:20:48.000 And the hashtag was originally so that if you wanted to find the conversation about it, if you search for just the word, you'll get everything.

01:20:54.000 If you search for the hashtag, you get conversations.

01:20:56.000 So then Twitter is like, oh, we'll incorporate this.

01:20:59.000 Before you could click the retweet button, people would just copy and paste and then put RT and then call it.

01:21:06.000 Or they would do MT for modified tweet.

01:21:09.000 I remember that because as far as I've, you know, since I've used Twitter, they've always had the retweet function, but people still did RT and MT to like share things.

01:21:17.000 And there's also like, Instagram still doesn't have this stuff.

01:21:20.000 So their perspective is, we didn't do it.

01:21:22.000 Don't look at us.

01:21:23.000 We have no responsibility to the destruction of the human mind and human society.

01:21:27.000 Or they like it.

01:21:28.000 I mean, look, if you want to reshape a society, you need to break it down first.

01:21:31.000 And that's happening, whether it's intentional or not.

01:21:33.000 I'm sure there are people sitting back like, it's a good thing.

01:21:36.000 Let it fall apart.

01:21:37.000 I know for a fact many far leftists have been talking for some time about tearing it all down so they can rebuild anew.

01:21:43.000 You know, we're down with the old and then they can make their new glorious utopia. 1.00

01:21:46.000 Like a secular heaven, yeah.

01:21:48.000 Well, whatever they think is going to happen.

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 But there's a funny comic.

01:21:51.000 You ever see those comics where it's the guy and he says, oh no, all the time?

01:21:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:55.000 There's one where he's in his room and he's like, I want things to be different.

01:21:59.000 And the next one is him smashing everything with a baseball bat.

01:22:01.000 And the next one is everything destroyed and he goes, oh no.

01:22:03.000 Different from what?

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:05.000 Right, exactly.

01:22:06.000 So you get these people who go out and they're like, I want things to change.

01:22:09.000 Smash, fires, and you're like, congratulations, you got change. 0.95

01:22:12.000 And now it sucks. 0.93

01:22:13.000 Like, like a, like a mother daughter relationship. 0.99

01:22:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:16.000 Like that's gone now.

01:22:17.000 Like what's going to be like Thanksgiving for that kid now.

01:22:19.000 They don't care because they have their dopamine hit.

01:22:22.000 But I'll tell you something.

01:22:24.000 She's going to be an adult and she's going to have no family and she'll be in like an old folks home. 1.00

01:22:29.000 You know, what's really gonna be interesting too, about all this.

01:22:33.000 Our parents can rely on us, but millennials aren't having kids anymore. 1.00

01:22:38.000 Nope.

01:22:39.000 Like, the birthing rate's gone for millennials.

01:22:42.000 Where are all these millennials gonna do when they're older? 0.97

01:22:45.000 You know, look, these average people are gonna find themselves with limited or no savings.

01:22:51.000 That's one of the reasons why- Yeah, millennials don't even own anything already. 0.99

01:22:53.000 They're not going to own anything.

01:22:55.000 You know what the average net worth of a 28-year-old is?

01:22:59.000 This is outdated.

01:23:00.000 It was from a year or two ago.

01:23:02.000 Negative $1,000.

01:23:03.000 You know what the average net worth of a 30-year-old is?

01:23:06.000 $1,000.

01:23:07.000 And then from there, it goes up to like $12,000, and then a 33-year-old is like $3,000.

01:23:15.000 I'm just talking about the States, right?

01:23:16.000 Yeah, in the States.

01:23:17.000 It's old data, and my numbers aren't completely accurate, but it's like around 30 is when they finally get out of debt and start accruing wealth.

01:23:25.000 So these people, they're not having kids, they're not having families, they're not making money.

01:23:28.000 I can understand why they're angry.

01:23:29.000 They don't own anything.

01:23:30.000 They're renting.

01:23:31.000 And they're going to be 80 years old, renting, and then they're going to be like, I put my pants.

01:23:36.000 And there's not going to be anybody to help them.

01:23:37.000 They're not going to be able to afford it, and they're not going to have any kids.

01:23:40.000 There's going to be a lot of cats.

01:23:41.000 Yep, yep. 0.99

01:23:42.000 Yeah, but is the cat gonna wipe your butt? 0.99

01:23:43.000 Is the cat going to help you in your wheelchair down the stairs? 0.99

01:23:43.000 Probably not. 0.99

01:23:47.000 No, they will eat you. 0.79

01:23:48.000 Take you out to get breakfast?

01:23:49.000 Or are you just gonna sit there wasting away?

01:23:51.000 And another factor too, Tim, I think what we're seeing with this pandemic and something that we've already been seeing with the millennial trend is we're actually gonna see less families with the millennials.

01:24:00.000 So we're not gonna have that structured family, mom and dad.

01:24:03.000 At home, working, and just having that.

01:24:06.000 I think we're not even going to have that.

01:24:07.000 So I would expect as we kind of keep going on that crime is going to keep going up.

01:24:11.000 Maybe people are getting married less.

01:24:11.000 Divorce is going up.

01:24:13.000 And the whole family structure in America just seems like it's becoming like this old idea now.

01:24:18.000 Now it's radical to be like, I want to start a family.

01:24:20.000 And you don't want to have kids and stuff.

01:24:23.000 That seems radical now.

01:24:24.000 It's insane!

01:24:25.000 We need it. The really scary part is is there's a lot of undertones. There's a lot of propaganda subliminally,

01:24:30.000 especially in Hollywood Incentivizing a lot of this stuff trying to make it popular

01:24:35.000 popular trying to glorize it But in reality it's going to cause a lot of human suffering

01:24:39.000 and it's going to make a lot of people Dependent and weak in a way that they could be taken

01:24:44.000 advantage of by some of the same special interests according to my own personal opinion that that will

01:24:50.000 Dive in on this forsaken person who's downtrodden who's downtrodden by the ideas that they put out that they

01:24:56.000 benefit from that suffering So we have to understand this is a big cycle that needs to be exposed.

01:25:01.000 Let's think about these parents.

01:25:02.000 This girl turns her parents and she makes $40,000. 0.95

01:25:05.000 What do they do now?

01:25:07.000 They're excised from polite society.

01:25:08.000 They're called terrorists.

01:25:10.000 They're probably going to face some kind of charges.

01:25:12.000 They probably can't work again.

01:25:13.000 Well, they're going to have to.

01:25:14.000 These people won't just cease to exist.

01:25:17.000 They're going to need food.

01:25:18.000 They're going to need access.

01:25:19.000 I think there's talk about this collapse of the United States.

01:25:25.000 I did a segment earlier.

01:25:26.000 The people in China are flocking to buy this book that predicted the demise of the U.S.

01:25:31.000 30 years ago.

01:25:33.000 What is a family to do if they've been removed from everything?

01:25:36.000 They can't get jobs.

01:25:37.000 They're going to find a way, and they're going to find their own parallel economy to make money.

01:25:42.000 Cryptocurrency could maybe help, but that just leads us to this reality where you're going to have blue states saying, we don't want to work with you, and red states saying, it's fine.

01:25:51.000 I mean, think about this.

01:25:52.000 This woman's gonna be able to go to Wyoming or West Virginia, find a job. 1.00

01:25:55.000 They're gonna be like, we like Trump too.

01:25:57.000 By all means, come here and work.

01:25:58.000 She's not gonna be able to do that in New York City. 1.00

01:26:00.000 True.

01:26:00.000 So the Trump supporters and the Republicans and the right, the red states, are gonna become entrenched.

01:26:05.000 And the blue states are gonna become entrenched.

01:26:07.000 And if you're a Trump supporter and you live in New York, you're probably already gone.

01:26:10.000 Yeah.

01:26:10.000 So we're seeing the ideological divide is getting worse geographically now, and we're probably getting to that point where things are going to fall apart.

01:26:18.000 So, in that sense, speaking of things falling apart, you guys went to California.

01:26:24.000 I have this story here from USA Today.

01:26:26.000 They say, California is a failed state.

01:26:29.000 How do we know?

01:26:30.000 They're moving to Arizona in droves.

01:26:32.000 This story is from August 31st, but they say a few things I want to highlight before we talk about what you guys did, because you guys went and actually talked to business owners and people have been impacted by the failed policies of California.

01:26:42.000 They say, California's energy policies have failed.

01:26:45.000 They say, so have those policies to stop homelessness.

01:26:49.000 Harsh pandemic response didn't help.

01:26:51.000 Move here, leave those policies at home.

01:26:54.000 What they're talking about now is people in California leave.

01:26:56.000 They're bringing the politics with them that destroyed the state.

01:27:00.000 So this is a story I covered quite a bit ago.

01:27:03.000 There was, you know, the failed state of California.

01:27:06.000 There was also the return of bubonic plague, typhoid outbreaks, disease, homelessness.

01:27:12.000 So you guys put together, you did a documentary.

01:27:14.000 Is that what you did?

01:27:15.000 Yeah, so what happened, Tim, is we actually kind of stumbled on this project on accident.

01:27:19.000 So I went back home to California.

01:27:21.000 That's my hometown in Palmdale.

01:27:23.000 So I went back around Thanksgiving.

01:27:25.000 And, you know, being here and, you know, covering politics in D.C., you do, even though I always hated myself for it, you do get stuck in kind of like a D.C.

01:27:34.000 You know, you forget how bad the pandemic is for the rest of America.

01:27:34.000 bubble.

01:27:38.000 As soon as I landed back home in California for Thanksgiving break, I visit my hometown and it's decimated.

01:27:44.000 It's just, you know, unemployment is high.

01:27:47.000 Most of my friends, their parents own these restaurants.

01:27:49.000 Now they're going out of business.

01:27:51.000 You know, it's just horrible.

01:27:54.000 Do you know the unemployment rate right now in California?

01:27:57.000 I don't know the unemployment rate, but as of right now, we do have 17% of restaurants across the U.S., so about 110 establishments are closed permanently.

01:28:05.000 Yeah.

01:28:06.000 And in November, the restaurant industry lost over 2 million jobs.

01:28:09.000 Wow.

01:28:10.000 So being in California, I started talking to the restaurant owners about the Outdoor Dining Bank, just how they're doing.

01:28:15.000 So as soon as I started interviewing, Um, these restaurant owners, it was powerful stuff.

01:28:19.000 Like they would be crying in my face saying, Hey Jorge, on Thanksgiving week, we get the news of the outdoor dining ban.

01:28:25.000 We have to now lay off the majority of our staff.

01:28:27.000 And it's like, and what they made me realize too, is like, we're not just laying off workers.

01:28:31.000 These are families that, you know, these people have to put food on the table.

01:28:34.000 and also kind of being in this project I got to learn that a lot of these couples, both of the

01:28:39.000 couples would be in the restaurant industry. So now you have two servers now let go, no help from

01:28:43.000 the government, and at the same time since they're in the working class their kids are at home all 1.00

01:28:48.000 day on Zoom, their kids depression is up. So it's just this horrible thing and so Sonic came down

01:28:54.000 and we were able to really focus in on these American stories because like a lot of these

01:28:57.000 restaurant owners feel like they've been left behind.

01:28:59.000 Not only that, another aspect is they spent thousands of thousands of dollars on outdoor dining and just accommodating to California's crazy rules.

01:29:07.000 I mean, L.A.

01:29:08.000 County was the only county to do an outdoor dining ban.

01:29:11.000 So just in L.A.

01:29:12.000 County, that's affecting 30,000 restaurants.

01:29:14.000 These people were told, we're shutting down indoor dining.

01:29:17.000 So they spend tons of money to set up outdoor dining.

01:29:19.000 And then as soon as they do, they go, ah, that's ban too.

01:29:22.000 Not only that, Tim, the crazy thing is the breweries in L.A.

01:29:26.000 County, they couldn't serve outdoors unless they had a kitchen.

01:29:31.000 So I was able to interview one brewer who spent $100,000 on a kitchen just to serve outdoors, only for two weeks later the county said, nope, done.

01:29:40.000 Shut it down.

01:29:41.000 So you have this massive brewery stuck on take out beers it's impossible and it's just heartbreaking to hear the owner say we love this business and we don't want to let people go but at this point what what can we do we're putting this tough corner so the beautiful thing was is that you know me and signing really got to document these stories tell these people's stories and when we put a documentary together is a we we released it actually today so it's on daily caller um check it out we worked really hard on it and

01:30:07.000 It really meant a lot to the restaurant industry because for them they feel like they don't have a voice.

01:30:12.000 But this is the kind of thing you gotta send to your friends who don't believe you.

01:30:15.000 The people who think everything's fine or that we're not facing serious trouble.

01:30:19.000 Let them hear in the words of the people who actually had their lives destroyed.

01:30:23.000 When you talk to these people, one thing you realize is that people in DC or people in New York or people who are in the media, they have given people this easily digestible pill which is like a Single variable way of thinking.

01:30:35.000 Like during this pandemic the only thing we have to consider is life saved versus life not saved.

01:30:39.000 Like the only thing you need to worry about is saving lives.

01:30:41.000 They don't consider the fact that these people who run these bars, who run these restaurants, they have lives too.

01:30:48.000 Like if you like close them and then you say like oh yes we are saving lives.

01:30:51.000 Like that's not a solution.

01:30:53.000 That's just a lazy way of thinking.

01:30:54.000 Like there are other variables to consider here.

01:30:57.000 Like the waiter, he has a job.

01:30:59.000 He probably has a family.

01:31:00.000 Like what about him?

01:31:00.000 He has a child.

01:31:02.000 That's one factor about it, and the second factor is, like, the hypocrisy.

01:31:06.000 Like, if you, like, drive, like, 10 minutes away from these restaurants, you walk into Target, where people are crowded in, like, gajillion numbers, especially during, like, holiday seasons, and that's, like, literally in front of these people.

01:31:17.000 Like, you can, like, look out of their restaurants, which are closed, and you see these, like, like, Target packed, and they realize that these Like, lockdown measures do not make any sense whatsoever, and the fact that it's so blatant is, like, insulting to them.

01:31:31.000 You know, I think it might be a red pill for a lot of these small businesses.

01:31:34.000 Exactly, yeah.

01:31:35.000 But I think most people are just gonna keep voting D. They're gonna walk in and go, eh, Democrat.

01:31:39.000 And they're gonna walk out and walk away.

01:31:41.000 It's not gonna stop.

01:31:41.000 And it's gonna keep happening.

01:31:42.000 Yeah, look, we don't know what's gonna happen.

01:31:44.000 Either that or people who have the resources to leave will leave.

01:31:48.000 But unfortunately, these people do not have the resources to leave.

01:31:51.000 They have poured their life's savings into creating something out of nothing and hiring people.

01:31:57.000 And once you have that mentality, which is like, okay, my job is to be responsible to put food on other people's table, like my waiters, my chefs, You're living a different life.

01:32:08.000 You're not living a life of a staff writer in the New York Times who lives in a pod and whose only job is to write.

01:32:14.000 You're responsible for other people.

01:32:15.000 You're an entrepreneur.

01:32:17.000 People do not empathize with these people easily and the media has done a horrible job of translating that.

01:32:23.000 Because the journalists are like that Randall character, they're snitches.

01:32:28.000 They're not going to come out and be like, oh, you poor restaurant owner.

01:32:30.000 No, we already saw one story where there was a business, they set up, they had a walkway, and they put a tent over it and put tables there so that people could use their public walkways and outdoor dining.

01:32:40.000 And the journalist snitched on them and said, we need to inform New York they're doing this.

01:32:44.000 Yeah, and the interesting thing too, Tim, is in California, you know, I've grown up there my whole life, but when I was growing up in the early 90s, you know, California was a state where everyone in around the country was moving to the golden state.

01:32:57.000 You know, you wanted to be in California.

01:32:58.000 I remember when I was growing up, you know, my dad is an immigrant from El Salvador.

01:33:01.000 He just has a sixth grade education.

01:33:03.000 My dad was able to have the family of five on one income.

01:33:05.000 He was a trucker and you know we would go on vacation.

01:33:07.000 We owned our cars.

01:33:09.000 That life is gone in California.

01:33:10.000 It's becoming almost like a Latin American economy where the the lowest class doesn't pay for anything because everything's subsidized. 0.78

01:33:16.000 The middle and the working class pay for absolutely everything and they're living on scrums. 1.00

01:33:20.000 They're the ones that have to get by.

01:33:22.000 And the rich, it's all good for the actors and everyone else.

01:33:24.000 So I, in the documentary too, I say, you know, this is the golden state.

01:33:28.000 It's now only golden for the elites and everyone else is left behind.

01:33:31.000 One of the more powerful interviews that I got, Tim, is I interviewed a owner of a pizza restaurant.

01:33:36.000 And when we spoke about the Gavin Newsom situation, she was just crying in my face saying it's an absolutely slap in the face for him to be able to eat in the French laundry indoors while I have to lay off my employees who are literally making like 13 bucks an hour.

01:33:49.000 You know some of these folks are surviving on like 120 bucks a week Tim.

01:33:53.000 Having kids.

01:33:54.000 I mean depression is going up.

01:33:55.000 It's honestly some of the saddest saddest things that we're seeing and we're just trying to focus on these stories because it just feels like the average American story is not getting told and you know I think it was a blessing for me to get out of that DC bubble and to see it and say you know what this is what I need to really be focused on is telling these stories and the next project we'll be working on and we don't want to get too much into but we're going to be interviewing parents and they're going to be talking to me about You know their kids going through this depression uh indoors.

01:34:18.000 A lot of suicides.

01:34:18.000 I um you know I put out a tweet saying hey parents reach out to me and Tim I got over a hundred messages and this is kind of the sentiment of these messages saying hey I had an eight-year-old a ten-year-old twelve-year-old they were all A's athletic now into the pandemic all F's social anxiety doesn't want to talk to me.

01:34:34.000 I'm speaking to a dad right now where his son grabbed his gun because he fell into depression during this COVID lockdown 12 years old He shot himself in the mouth trying to kill himself.

01:34:42.000 But the way he shot it, thank God he's in stable condition.

01:34:45.000 We're going to be interviewing him to tell the story.

01:34:47.000 But this stuff, Tim, is just not getting told in the news.

01:34:50.000 And not only that, and when I was speaking to his parents, now that made me realize they're telling me like, hey Jorge, I'm making less money because of the pandemic.

01:34:56.000 My kids are stuck at home.

01:34:57.000 Depression's up.

01:34:58.000 I'm also spending more on groceries.

01:35:00.000 Double because since the kids are home, they're eating more.

01:35:02.000 So it's just All these little things that we would never consider.

01:35:06.000 And sometimes, you know, look, I know what happened in the Capitol.

01:35:09.000 Obviously, that's big news and we need to talk about it.

01:35:11.000 But at the end of the day, let's not forget that, you know, average Americans can't put food on the table.

01:35:14.000 And it's not only California.

01:35:15.000 It's across the state.

01:35:16.000 You know, we can only focus there.

01:35:17.000 But let's not forget about the average Americans.

01:35:19.000 They're getting left behind during this pandemic.

01:35:20.000 I was reading, there was something, a doctor gave an interview or something where he talked about he's never seen such deterioration.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:26.000 Not just from older folks, but from even kids.

01:35:28.000 Kids, yeah.

01:35:29.000 Kids becoming out of shape, overweight, their blood pressure's bad, they're like just obese, diabetic, because they're not exercising, they're sitting in all day, they're not getting vitamin D, and they're getting depressed.

01:35:40.000 Social anxiety for these kids too.

01:35:41.000 Yeah, they're becoming like, you know, just a homebody, lying around with bed sores, crumbs on their chest.

01:35:49.000 And then they're supposed to interact through, you know, computers.

01:35:51.000 Man, get out of these cities.

01:35:53.000 The best thing you can do, I guess.

01:35:54.000 But some people can't do it.

01:35:55.000 You're trapped.

01:35:56.000 Exactly.

01:35:57.000 Like, a lot of people, like, people are like, oh, leave California.

01:35:59.000 Just move to Texas.

01:36:00.000 Like, move to Nashville.

01:36:01.000 It's like, a lot of people do not have, like, the, you know, means to do that.

01:36:04.000 And California, let's not forget, it's like a beautiful state.

01:36:07.000 It's like a huge, beautiful state where, like, a lot of people live.

01:36:10.000 And...

01:36:11.000 a huge sloth of population like feel like they're left behind just because of the governor just because of the mayor and it's just like a harrowing thing to see and like when you meet these people the thing you realize is that Like they are so like the fact that like Tucker talks about a lot of the fact the classified like it is so obvious to them that people when people think about California they think about oh the place where actors live oh well like celebrities live but the fact that they're like actual waiters or actual restaurant owners who do not have jobs like that is class divide. 0.93

01:36:42.000 You know, I was thinking something.

01:36:43.000 I was like, when I saw Gavin Newsom doing that fancy dinner... French Laundry, yeah.

01:36:48.000 What was it called?

01:36:49.000 French Laundry.

01:36:50.000 French Laundry?

01:36:51.000 That's the name of the restaurant.

01:36:51.000 Yeah.

01:36:52.000 It's one of the most fanciest restaurants in the world.

01:36:54.000 I mean, the bill was... 400 grand-ish.

01:36:56.000 400 grand!

01:36:58.000 Wait, the bill?

01:36:59.000 How much was the bill?

01:37:01.000 That's what the pizza owner told me.

01:37:02.000 The bill should be closer to $400,000.

01:37:04.000 In Vegas, I remember Shane Smith from Vice spent $300,000, I think, on dinner.

01:37:06.000 In Vegas, I remember Shane Smith from Vice spent $300,000 I think on dinner.

01:37:12.000 Oh my god.

01:37:13.000 But yeah, so when I saw that, I have never been closer to raising my fist and yelling,

01:37:18.000 Workers of the World, Unite.

01:37:19.000 Seriously?

01:37:21.000 But here's what I'm thinking, like, is there a thing where we can, like, unite the workers but not as communists?

01:37:28.000 And just be like, yo, these politicians need to be removed.

01:37:30.000 That's the new right, dude.

01:37:31.000 That's the new right.

01:37:32.000 That's the populist new right, where, like, people realize that we, us being workers, have been left behind by the government, and the only, like, the way to unite is, like, not exactly, like, following Bernie's rule, but, like, what Tucker says.

01:37:42.000 It's, like, you as a worker have a right.

01:37:44.000 Like, the fact that The whole concept of like someone having a job, like the same job at retiring at 60 years old with his Rolex is like outdated, should be worrisome.

01:37:55.000 Yeah, let me say probably one of the most bannable things.

01:37:58.000 So let's recognize people on the right should not be voting for Republicans.

01:38:03.000 We see what they do.

01:38:04.000 They hate their own voters.

01:38:05.000 But let's also recognize the left should not be voting for Democrats.

01:38:05.000 Right.

01:38:05.000 Yeah.

01:38:08.000 Yep.

01:38:09.000 So everybody made a mistake here. 0.71

01:38:10.000 How about we all agree the workers should unite, but not to change, not to make socialism, just to get rid of corrupt, crooked politicians.

01:38:22.000 And I mean this peacefully.

01:38:23.000 I mean, we need to have people come together, a populist movement saying, we might not agree on the economic policy, but we can all agree the elites don't have our back and are selling us out and stripping away our access and our rights and our liberties.

01:38:35.000 And if the workers do unite, it doesn't have to be for communism.

01:38:39.000 It can just be for the benefit of the people.

01:38:41.000 I would say American rights and the right to make a living.

01:38:44.000 If I'm being honest, I was far from being a populist guy.

01:38:48.000 I would say I was close to being a New York conservative before this year began.

01:38:54.000 But when 2020...

01:38:55.000 You're a Paul Ryan conservative. 0.99

01:38:57.000 But when this year started rolling down, I realized that, holy shit, this class divide 0.99

01:39:02.000 is so obvious. 0.99

01:39:04.000 And Washington does not give a single crap about any of these people at all. 0.94

01:39:12.000 The stimulus thing was the perfect example for that. 0.97

01:39:15.000 I talked to this waitress who was 28 years old, single mother, has a 4-year-old son.

01:39:21.000 And she was like the last time I was like gone was like when everyone else got there like $1,600 like back in like April May I don't remember and like that was the last one and like and ever since that I've been earning $200 a week and like Like I have a son who is like two years old.

01:39:35.000 Like what about him?

01:39:37.000 You know, I think people need to start realizing you can't count on government.

01:39:41.000 You can count on them to put the roadblocks up, but not to give you the food after they screw you over.

01:39:45.000 And so I know a lot of people don't want to hear it and it's maybe easier for me to say, but we're going back to, you know, we're, we're going back in time in terms of our, in terms of, look, let me stop there.

01:39:55.000 We were in a golden age for a long time.

01:39:57.000 You go to the store, you get cheeseburgers, you get pizzas, boom, just like that.

01:40:00.000 For dirt, you go home, you put it in the freezer, you put it in the oven, you got food.

01:40:04.000 That's easy living.

01:40:06.000 You know, people used to have to work from sunup to sundown just to have enough food to survive.

01:40:10.000 And it was work.

01:40:11.000 Non-stop.

01:40:12.000 And we're heading back in that direction.

01:40:14.000 For whatever reason you want to say, I think people need to become self-reliant, independent, start realizing the government's not going to get your back, and even if we do change as politicians, it's not going to change anything.

01:40:22.000 No.

01:40:23.000 You know, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.

01:40:25.000 I mean, wages have been going down in this country for the past 30 years, and they keep going down.

01:40:29.000 Life expectancy in America is, I think it's like we're like, it's just dropping, dropping, dropping, because now Americans have to work more jobs.

01:40:37.000 We also have the opioid crisis.

01:40:39.000 It's, I mean, and then the pandemic obviously doesn't help.

01:40:41.000 Collapsing economy.

01:40:43.000 Yup.

01:40:43.000 Yeah.

01:40:44.000 Like back to your point, like the thing is like, yes, like meritocracy is like still a thing and like people should like believe in it.

01:40:51.000 But at the same time, people should always question like these congregation of powers.

01:40:56.000 And anytime there's like this, like unwarranted, like mammoth of power to any corporation, to any government, people should like question that or at least like, is this right?

01:41:05.000 That this one company has like access to everything that we do, like websites, groceries, like.

01:41:12.000 That's why I think we might be heading towards peaceful divorce, as many people have called it.

01:41:25.000 Because like I said, people who can't get jobs anymore because, you know, blue states won't hire them, they can get jobs in West Virginia and Wyoming and Nebraska or whatever.

01:41:33.000 But I guess we'll see how it plays out.

01:41:34.000 We should jump over to Super Chats, take some audience commentary.

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01:42:20.000 Let's read some of these Super Chats. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Sam Meehan says, It's time for a populist party, left and right.

01:42:26.000 The people need to take this country back from the elites who have lifetime seats in our government.

01:42:30.000 We can deal with policy disagreements after.

01:42:33.000 What perfect timing.

01:42:35.000 That super chat was actually from earlier in the night.

01:42:37.000 Jordan Jones mentioned that, last time I was this early my wife was pissed. 1.00

01:42:44.000 A lot of people are mentioning that Lou Dobbs dropped.

01:42:48.000 There's going to be some declassifications.

01:42:50.000 Bombagate stuff.

01:42:51.000 We'll see how that plays out.

01:42:53.000 Raymond Field says, what y'all think is going to happen on the 20th?

01:42:57.000 I think, originally I thought we were going to have some drama and some violence, but I think there's just so much National Guard.

01:43:03.000 You can't even drive around D.C.

01:43:04.000 The roadblocks are insane.

01:43:05.000 I think it's going to be calm.

01:43:07.000 That's just me.

01:43:08.000 My favorite conspiracy is that Trump planned everything.

01:43:11.000 No, for real, like, that in order to actually get the National Guard into D.C., you needed an excuse.

01:43:18.000 And when the left came to D.C., they actually argued to get rid of the National Guard and that it was wrong.

01:43:23.000 So the conspiracy theory is that Consistently.

01:43:26.000 did it so that they would, the left would demand the National Guard that, you know what

01:43:26.000 You gotta trust it.

01:43:30.000 I love about the conspiracy stuff is that they say, trust the plan, but the plan's been

01:43:35.000 wrong every single time.

01:43:38.000 Yep.

01:43:39.000 Yeah.

01:43:40.000 Yeah.

01:43:41.000 So I got to be honest.

01:43:42.000 I mostly think nothing to be honest.

01:43:43.000 Yeah, I don't, I don't think I think I think, and I hope nothing and I hope they take the

01:43:47.000 security seriously, but I think Biden's going to be president and then hopefully things

01:43:52.000 I think there's still tensions, you know, and escalation coming in various forms, but I think the 20th is probably going to be.

01:43:57.000 We'll see though, because there's talk about Sunday or whatever, and I have no idea what any of that stuff is.

01:44:02.000 There's other people theorizing that there might be something like a false attack, but that's just rumor mills that I'm hearing based on no evidence.

01:44:09.000 No evidence at all.

01:44:09.000 Conspiracies.

01:44:10.000 Tim, I don't know if you've seen the little, like, flyers going around of saying, like, hey, storm every capital in the U.S.

01:44:15.000 It was like, I mean, the flyer looks super fake.

01:44:17.000 It looks like it was, like, just... Trump supporters are disavowing it.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, there's no American flag.

01:44:21.000 There's no group associated to it.

01:44:23.000 So, yeah, we'll see.

01:44:24.000 Animal Room says, where the heck is Crowder?

01:44:26.000 Seriously.

01:44:27.000 Oh, I know.

01:44:28.000 You mentioned that last time I was here, too.

01:44:30.000 Well, some people have said that he normally takes breaks into the new year.

01:44:33.000 But this is a weird time to take a break.

01:44:34.000 Maybe or maybe he just he takes breaks and no exceptions.

01:44:39.000 It's been it's been a month, right?

01:44:39.000 I don't know, though.

01:44:41.000 Yeah, he's gone.

01:44:42.000 He tweeted something cryptic.

01:44:44.000 Yeah, it's really weird.

01:44:46.000 Triscipline.

01:44:47.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

01:44:48.000 Student of History says, Listening to the video at 10 a.m., stopped listening to a documentary about Sir Thomas Cochran, and you talked about building culture, and I had an idea of Dunkirk-style docutainment about John Paul Jones, the OG Rev War B.A.

01:45:03.000 John Paul Jones was.

01:45:04.000 Yes, he was indeed.

01:45:06.000 Petty says, Whenever they call something a threat to democracy, replace democracy with either establishment or international power.

01:45:12.000 Yep.

01:45:14.000 All right, here we go.

01:45:15.000 Gino Bendetto says, why are 20,000 National Guardsmen deploying to DC for an online inauguration?

01:45:20.000 For perspective, there were less than a quarter than that for Fallujah.

01:45:23.000 Oh, wow.

01:45:24.000 That's crazy.

01:45:25.000 Yeah, and you know, there was a lot of apprehension against the police state a couple weeks ago by these same individuals that are now cheering it on.

01:45:32.000 So it's a little weird to have them congratulate, you know, 20,000 plus armed individuals as a large-scale military mobilization.

01:45:41.000 Yeah, that's...

01:45:43.000 That's some people comparing it to a police state.

01:45:47.000 Insight of the Ages says, why not support locals?

01:45:50.000 Have Dave Rubin on.

01:45:52.000 Dave is always welcome to come and hang out.

01:45:52.000 Dave is great.

01:45:54.000 I think he's a rad dude.

01:45:56.000 Why not support locals?

01:45:57.000 I'll support locals in that sense that I think what he's doing is good and great and giving a platform to people is great.

01:46:05.000 My concern though is It's still susceptible to a lot of the same problems.

01:46:09.000 Now, with Locals, you have your own Stripe account for payments, meaning if your payment gets banned, it's on you.

01:46:16.000 But there's still the fact that Locals is the server hosting the content, and you still have that potential for, I guess, failure.

01:46:25.000 Meaning that somebody who does something with DNS or hosting or whatever for Locals could go to them and say, we don't care.

01:46:31.000 You are associated with this group and we will terminate our contract unless you do X. And that creates a threat to, you know, the business where when Patreon started banning people, what the CEO was saying is like, look, we've been threatened by these companies.

01:46:46.000 And we'll have to ban 100,000 people who are making a living unless we ban one person.

01:46:53.000 So we have to get rid of the one person, and we don't want to, but we have to.

01:46:56.000 And that's the problem with centralization.

01:46:58.000 Now, Locals, I believe, is playing on decentralizing and all that stuff.

01:47:03.000 But here's what I did.

01:47:04.000 I just made my own website.

01:47:05.000 I know not everybody can.

01:47:07.000 So if you're someone who's got like a moderate following and you want to have your own website, Locals make sense.

01:47:12.000 For me, I run a business where we're trying to expand and I have the ability to create my own website and that is just better for me all around.

01:47:19.000 The only risks I have are directly to me.

01:47:21.000 My vendors, my hosting, my domain, all of that is on me and nobody else.

01:47:26.000 So for me, that's preferable.

01:47:27.000 Let's read some more.

01:47:29.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:47:30.000 Michelle Pate says, did you know that you can no longer look up Trinidad and Ashabta Pressure and Batacath Care?

01:47:37.000 Both search bring up absolutely no searches.

01:47:39.000 May, amazing.

01:47:41.000 No Dice says, hey Luke, I love your work and your shirts.

01:47:44.000 I'm thinking of escaping from Long Island, New Hampshire, partly because of you.

01:47:47.000 Keep up the great work, Tim and crew.

01:47:49.000 Yeah, definitely try to see what community is right for you.

01:47:53.000 Don't rush decisions.

01:47:54.000 Do a lot of research.

01:47:55.000 Do a lot of homework.

01:47:57.000 And thank you.

01:47:58.000 Really appreciate that.

01:48:00.000 Robert Galera says, Tim, you've been talking about reassessing culture.

01:48:03.000 I agree.

01:48:03.000 But how do we do that if we're the counterculture?

01:48:06.000 Also, I'm tragically in California.

01:48:09.000 Grew up here all my life.

01:48:10.000 I hate what it's become.

01:48:11.000 Didn't vote for this.

01:48:12.000 Bummer.

01:48:14.000 I throw it to Daily Wire.

01:48:16.000 You know, it's the easiest example is the Daily Wire is doing that movie.

01:48:19.000 And think about in 15 years, you'll have some dude who's like 18 and they're like, what do you want to do?

01:48:23.000 And it's like, I really want to work for Daily Wire Productions.

01:48:26.000 Their movies are awesome.

01:48:28.000 And then someone will say, that's that conservative Ben Shapiro thing.

01:48:31.000 You ever see that movie they did about this?

01:48:31.000 I don't know, man.

01:48:33.000 That was so cool.

01:48:34.000 I'd love to make movies with them.

01:48:36.000 That's what it's all about.

01:48:37.000 So you create a culture, you create some kind of inspirational system and a place and a platform and a community in which you can cheer on young people and make them feel good about themselves.

01:48:50.000 Otherwise, they're going to go on social media, sell it to their parents for a quick buck.

01:48:54.000 Give them an opportunity to feel good.

01:48:55.000 You need to make that space.

01:48:58.000 Justin Smith says Crowder is controlled opposition.

01:49:01.000 He quietly stepped away at the perfect moment and will show up once the bans are over and still have a spot on YouTube.

01:49:07.000 Also, his rhetoric will change to fall in line.

01:49:09.000 I don't know about all that, but if I didn't cover what happened at the Capitol, Facebook would not have given me the axe.

01:49:17.000 So, there you go.

01:49:19.000 But I don't know if that says anything about Crowder.

01:49:20.000 I mean, maybe he just took the holidays off.

01:49:22.000 That's a simple solution, man.

01:49:24.000 It's only two weeks into January, so... You know, I've had conversations with people who do YouTube who talk about how mid-December to mid-January they stop working because viewership drops dramatically.

01:49:37.000 It's substantially harder to produce because most people don't want to and they're going to their families.

01:49:41.000 And then you got New Years and then after that, advertising rates are gone because companies don't restart their budgets and actually start putting money into ads until February.

01:49:50.000 So they're just like, what's the point?

01:49:53.000 I'm not, you know, I don't think it, you know.

01:49:53.000 So I'm not surprised.

01:49:56.000 Joseph Flynn says, hey Tim, a few of my friends consider you a grifter, and disregard anything you say because of it.

01:50:01.000 I don't see it, but is there anything I could show them of you to disprove that notion?

01:50:06.000 No, because grifter doesn't really mean anything.

01:50:09.000 Like, what does that mean?

01:50:10.000 What are they accusing me of?

01:50:11.000 You can watch the podcast episode we did with Dave Smith the other day, where we spent like 40 minutes ragging on Donald Trump, which was...

01:50:18.000 A lot of ragging on Donald Trump and foreign policy stuff.

01:50:21.000 But the problem is, if they're calling me a grifter, it means they're probably getting out-of-context smears from leftists, and it's like, what do you even do at that point?

01:50:30.000 If they're not willing to listen to a show... A lot of the leftists who watch the show I did with Vosh actually started saying good things about me. 0.97

01:50:37.000 And there was this joke thread about, you know, it was essentially like, which one of these people is worse, and people are like, ah, Tim's alright, he's not that bad, he's kind of dumb though.

01:50:45.000 So when they actually watched a show, because there was a leftist on, and they heard what I said, they were like, oh, those things actually aren't true.

01:50:53.000 You know, so what they'll do is, I'll quote someone, they'll claim it came from me, there's some activist groups that took me, I said something like, if you were to ask someone who's a white nationalist, they will tell you, This.

01:51:06.000 They took the last part and claimed I was the one that was saying it.

01:51:10.000 I was trying to be like, no, they'll tell you they're doing, you know, they believe in themselves and they think they're the good guys.

01:51:15.000 So it's always some kind of out-of-context nonsense.

01:51:18.000 But there's a good reason why there's almost no articles that get written about me, because people who actually try and watch and figure out what I'm saying, after you get these left-wing grifters who will, like, make a YouTube video and they're like, here's Tim Pool saying this, When the journalists who like writing smears actually go to the video, they're like, it's not there.

01:51:35.000 It's not real.

01:51:37.000 And so this doesn't happen.

01:51:38.000 And then nobody writes about it.

01:51:40.000 Michelle Pate says, Luke, I was also emancipated from New York as well.

01:51:46.000 Can I buy your shirt anywhere?

01:51:47.000 I would love, love it for myself and family.

01:51:49.000 Thank you so much for asking.

01:51:51.000 Of course you could get it on wearechange.org forward slash shirts.

01:51:58.000 So thank you so much.

01:51:59.000 And if you want the exclusive, I am a gorilla t-shirt, because everybody loves the gorilla emoji, go to TimCast.com, click shop, and you will see the brand new shirt.

01:52:08.000 We're going to have a limited edition tinfoil hat wearing one as well.

01:52:11.000 So, you know, I'll point out Luke's shirts are always very serious and political.

01:52:16.000 How is this serious?

01:52:17.000 What do you say?

01:52:18.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:52:19.000 I mean, like it makes a political point, right?

01:52:21.000 Mine is literally a gorilla saying it's meaningless.

01:52:24.000 Yeah.

01:52:24.000 And then I have the Harumph I Say shirt.

01:52:26.000 Meaningless!

01:52:27.000 So if you, the point I'm bringing up is, if you want to have a good political humor and political art.

01:52:32.000 And support my indentured servitude, you can do that with the shirt things, yes.

01:52:38.000 I'm Brandon says, hey Tim and the IRL gang, do you think we should all go back to the MySpace days?

01:52:43.000 Also, do you think big tech is just shooting themselves in the foot?

01:52:46.000 I wonder.

01:52:47.000 Big Tech is too big to shoot themselves in the foot, I feel.

01:52:49.000 I don't know.

01:52:50.000 I kind of want to open a MySpace account.

01:52:51.000 I miss Tom.

01:52:53.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 The top 8 was cool.

01:52:55.000 Doesn't Timberlake own it now?

01:52:56.000 It's not even the same thing.

01:52:57.000 It's like a music thing now.

01:52:59.000 We should go back to MySpace.

01:53:00.000 I like when you click the profile, the song's playing.

01:53:03.000 You know what I was thinking?

01:53:04.000 We mentioned this before.

01:53:05.000 Just set up your profile as a book on Amazon.

01:53:08.000 So be like, you know, you can follow me at Harry Potter on Amazon.

01:53:12.000 I'll be in the comment section posting my thoughts and ideas on politics.

01:53:15.000 That's the way to do it.

01:53:15.000 That's the future.

01:53:17.000 Find me on Amazon.com forward slash book 1984.

01:53:20.000 I'll see you right there.

01:53:22.000 Super Bam Bam says, if there wasn't such a divide in communication between the two camps, maybe the Trump supporters would have had some notice of this person.

01:53:30.000 I hadn't even known he was an agitator and was ousted by BLM until now.

01:53:34.000 Exactly.

01:53:35.000 So, we here at the IRL Podcast like to look into the facts and figure out what's going on, and we discover this guy, John Sullivan, even the left doesn't like him.

01:53:43.000 You know, they're like, don't give him to us, we don't like the guy, we kicked him out.

01:53:46.000 But he probably is still a leftist, just, you know, a violent one.

01:53:49.000 Yeah, radical.

01:53:50.000 Anthony Zavaro says, Sullivan is probably CIA COINTELPRO agent provocateur.

01:53:55.000 Anderson Cooper is former CIA.

01:53:57.000 I am a gorilla, spin the male vitality.

01:54:01.000 Anderson Cooper was an intern, right, for two summers?

01:54:04.000 Yeah.

01:54:05.000 And then he went to Iraq, I think, right?

01:54:08.000 Well, I don't know about that part.

01:54:10.000 I believe he went to the Middle East.

01:54:11.000 Yeah, he interned twice, and then he decided to go and just do journalism, so he made his own press card, went to Iraq to cover what was going on.

01:54:18.000 I think, was it Desert Storm?

01:54:19.000 Was it that long ago?

01:54:20.000 It has to be.

01:54:21.000 Yeah, I remember he was in the Middle East with his own camera.

01:54:26.000 Eric Miller says Sullivan is not left or right.

01:54:28.000 He's a mainstream media intern trying to start his career.

01:54:30.000 I took a break and have been practicing guitar and making music and maybe your tier system could be based on engagement and seniority.

01:54:36.000 Yes, interesting.

01:54:38.000 He could be the left-wing baked Alaska.

01:54:41.000 Yeah.

01:54:42.000 Daniel Maxwell says politicians are always trying to fix problems that they created while adhering to their political ideology, unlike statesmen and public servants who fix problems as they are identified by society for the betterment of society in spite of ideology.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, like Ron Paul, I guess.

01:54:58.000 Can you name anybody else?

01:54:59.000 How many people would you consider to be true statesmen trying to solve problems?

01:55:03.000 I'm sorry, statespeople.

01:55:04.000 Statespersons.

01:55:06.000 Statespersons.

01:55:07.000 Tulsi Gabbard?

01:55:08.000 Josh Hawley, maybe?

01:55:09.000 I don't know.

01:55:10.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:55:11.000 This is more annual.

01:55:12.000 I think Josh Hawley's gonna get primary.

01:55:13.000 Hawley got himself into hot water with this riot thing.

01:55:18.000 Before that, he was fine.

01:55:18.000 Thomas Macy?

01:55:19.000 Yeah, Thomas Macy.

01:55:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:21.000 Gareth Green says, Pool Sunday.

01:55:23.000 To continue our conversation from last night, your view of the power of big tech ignores the time equation.

01:55:28.000 Twitter and Facebook did not exist 20 years ago, so what makes you so sure they will exist in 2040?

01:55:33.000 Competition will arise on its own in 10 or 20 years.

01:55:36.000 Maybe technology will change, and Facebook already was in decline.

01:55:40.000 Young people were fleeing Facebook a long time ago, and they were struggling.

01:55:44.000 And a lot of people were saying, Facebook is what my parents use, and they were using other things.

01:55:47.000 So, yeah, we'll see.

01:55:49.000 Stephen Moorer says, Tim, you are wrong.

01:55:51.000 Government regulation is not the answer to big tech censorship.

01:55:54.000 If politics is downstream of culture, they'll need to reestablish a culture of free speech. 0.52

01:55:58.000 We don't have a culture of freedom, but a right, but, but of regulation now.

01:56:02.000 No, I agree with you.

01:56:02.000 That's why I've been, I've been telling everybody the move you have to make is cultural.

01:56:06.000 If voting isn't going to get you one because Democrats control culture, you need to, you need to engage and create and inspire.

01:56:13.000 I don't know.

01:56:14.000 Jay White says, is it possible that banning Trump just made him more powerful than he

01:56:17.000 was before in the end?

01:56:19.000 It's probably a pretty self-defeating ban overall.

01:56:21.000 Do you know that they censored Hitler and they imprisoned him?

01:56:25.000 And then someone mentioned this the other day.

01:56:26.000 What is it called?

01:56:27.000 Like the Beer Hall push?

01:56:28.000 Is that what it's called?

01:56:29.000 I don't know.

01:56:30.000 It was where there was an attempted coup.

01:56:32.000 He got arrested and charged with treason.

01:56:34.000 And then he came back later.

01:56:35.000 And the lesson from history is not that fascists always try and cry censorship.

01:56:40.000 It's that the censorship did not work.

01:56:43.000 So keep that in mind.

01:56:44.000 Gareth Green says, Your whole theory that tech suppression will destroy the suppressed opinions assumes that big tech will not shrink and lose power on its own.

01:56:51.000 The demand for platforms for the banned means that eventually such platforms will find ways to beat them, and they will go the way of White Castle.

01:56:58.000 Wait, is White Castle still exists?

01:57:01.000 I think so.

01:57:01.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 Yeah.

01:57:02.000 I don't know.

01:57:03.000 But I respect the point.

01:57:05.000 Gab.com, for instance, just built their own infrastructure.

01:57:08.000 So there you go.

01:57:10.000 Matthew Oslin says, Tim, I love the show and all you guys do.

01:57:14.000 I live in Chicagoland and work in a union auto shop where almost everyone is a Democrat and Trump hater.

01:57:19.000 How can I make progress in getting help to see the other side of the coin?

01:57:27.000 Um, I like what Fleckas did.

01:57:29.000 Like Trump's kind of bad, but he's not that bad, right?

01:57:32.000 No, come on. 0.85

01:57:32.000 It's not that bad. 0.85

01:57:33.000 He's bad though.

01:57:34.000 You ever see those videos?

01:57:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:57:36.000 He walks around and people are like, yeah, okay, I guess that's step one.

01:57:39.000 Very easy.

01:57:40.000 And then people would say, nah, he's pretty bad.

01:57:42.000 Like, well, what do you think is bad?

01:57:43.000 You know?

01:57:43.000 Okay.

01:57:44.000 That's kind of bad.

01:57:44.000 You're right.

01:57:45.000 But it's not that bad.

01:57:46.000 Yeah.

01:57:46.000 Okay.

01:57:47.000 I guess it's not that bad.

01:57:48.000 It's that simple.

01:57:49.000 I don't know, man.

01:57:50.000 Talk to people, be honest and calm and rational and then don't start fights.

01:57:56.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:57:57.000 Gareth Green says, Didn't Parlour find a new hosting site?

01:58:00.000 Anyway, it's a try-try-again scenario.

01:58:02.000 If they failed, that just creates the opportunity for someone else to learn from it.

01:58:06.000 Try again and eventually succeed.

01:58:08.000 Twitter will go the way of White Castle Hamburgers sooner or later. 0.86

01:58:13.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure White Castle still exists.

01:58:15.000 Yeah.

01:58:15.000 Am I wrong about that?

01:58:16.000 I thought so, yeah.

01:58:17.000 Me too.

01:58:17.000 Jake the Gaff says, Beanie Club.

01:58:20.000 Yes, the Beanie Club.

01:58:21.000 Yes.

01:58:21.000 Become a member of Beanie Club.

01:58:23.000 You know what?

01:58:23.000 We'd probably sign way more people up if I called it the Beanie Club.

01:58:26.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:27.000 Yeah.

01:58:27.000 I heard someone call this place the Beanie Compound.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:58:30.000 That's what it is, yeah.

01:58:32.000 Well, you have a Santa beanie.

01:58:33.000 Does that count as a beanie, the Santa hat?

01:58:34.000 No.

01:58:34.000 Yes, it does.

01:58:35.000 That's a historic Santa hat.

01:58:39.000 Andrew Mickelson says, in the morning, everyone.

01:58:42.000 Uh, in the morning?

01:58:43.000 Love the bipartisan media coverage.

01:58:45.000 Does anyone else feel like 2020 was a giant psyop?

01:58:48.000 Shout out to the No Agenda podcast, the Propaganda Report podcast, and Grimerica podcast.

01:58:54.000 Shout out.

01:58:55.000 Thank you very much.

01:58:56.000 Let's see what we got in this year's box of superchats.

01:59:00.000 Jimmy Quinto says, you think Dems want a symbiotic trade relationship with China to avoid war and make money, while pushing for war in Russia to secure the industrial-military complex and avoid bankruptcy?

01:59:10.000 Yes.

01:59:11.000 And it doesn't work.

01:59:12.000 That was their strategy the whole time with China, that by creating lines of trade it would prevent war when China eventually took over as the global superpower.

01:59:20.000 It didn't work.

01:59:21.000 China did not normalize, became more authoritarian and more despotic.

01:59:25.000 We just gave them power.

01:59:28.000 Publius says, so you talked about the personalities and their addiction social media, but what about the addicted users that are being cut off cold turkey?

01:59:35.000 Doctors today do not recommend doing anything cold turkey that is habit forming.

01:59:39.000 Yeah.

01:59:39.000 What do you think is going to happen when someone's got like all these followers and they get banned?

01:59:43.000 Like, what do you think Trump's going to do?

01:59:44.000 I don't know.

01:59:45.000 88 million followers?

01:59:46.000 Yeah.

01:59:47.000 He can't tweet anymore.

01:59:50.000 Nothing?

01:59:51.000 He's gonna go to sleep?

01:59:53.000 No, no.

01:59:53.000 Mar-a-Lago.

01:59:55.000 He's gonna go play golf at his resort and say, I don't care, it's mine.

01:59:59.000 Abad says, you ask us not to use the same tactics.

02:00:02.000 Then what do we do?

02:00:03.000 Quit our jobs?

02:00:04.000 Doesn't do much, but out us and leave us vulnerable.

02:00:07.000 How do you overcome hate when that's what everyone responds to?

02:00:09.000 Yell at someone?

02:00:10.000 Be stoic? 1.00

02:00:11.000 You... Fuck. 1.00

02:00:13.000 I'm not gonna read it. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Shopping carts, too true.

02:00:17.000 Culture.

02:00:18.000 Culture.

02:00:19.000 And comedy.

02:00:21.000 Ryan Long is great.

02:00:21.000 You guys seen Ryan Long's stuff?

02:00:23.000 It's because he makes fun of everybody.

02:00:24.000 And that's why Joe Rogan's great.

02:00:25.000 And that's why there's a bunch of comedians that do a good job.

02:00:28.000 Because make fun of everybody is unifying.

02:00:31.000 Look, I don't have all the answers, man.

02:00:34.000 Jay Rico says, Tim, I agree.

02:00:35.000 Tim, agree with Jorge.

02:00:37.000 Being Hispanic, you'd get the chancla. 0.99

02:00:40.000 I feel many of us still believe in the family structure.

02:00:43.000 Maybe that will help in our future.

02:00:44.000 It's the chancla.

02:00:45.000 It's the sandal, dude.

02:00:46.000 So for those who don't know, the Hispanic mom is, she's the Tom Brady with the chancla, bro. 0.66

02:00:52.000 It doesn't matter how far you are.

02:00:53.000 She's nailing it. 0.93

02:00:54.000 Yeah.

02:00:55.000 I don't know why.

02:00:56.000 It's in the genes.

02:00:57.000 It's in the science.

02:00:58.000 All right.

02:00:58.000 It's the way it is.

02:00:59.000 I don't make the rules.

02:01:00.000 I love it.

02:01:01.000 Bob Newman says, I just heard a yarr.

02:01:03.000 We talking about sea shanties?

02:01:05.000 Trying to catch up after getting in here late.

02:01:06.000 Love it.

02:01:08.000 Yadoc says, Hey, I'm leaving Palmdale for Texas. 0.99

02:01:12.000 It sucks here. 0.98

02:01:13.000 Schooners is closed down. 0.99

02:01:15.000 I don't know for how long.

02:01:16.000 That's funny.

02:01:16.000 Palmdale is my hometown.

02:01:17.000 That's where we shot a lot of the documentary.

02:01:19.000 So there you go.

02:01:20.000 What's a schooner? 1.00

02:01:20.000 Is that a famous thing? 1.00

02:01:21.000 It's a, it's a, it's a local bar.

02:01:23.000 Yeah.

02:01:23.000 And the thing is too, the schooners, uh, when the outdoor dining band came for like the first two weeks, they were defying orders, doing their thing.

02:01:29.000 And I think LA County public health basically came down and says, you guys keep doing your thing.

02:01:32.000 We're going to pull that liquor license. 1.00

02:01:33.000 So.

02:01:33.000 Shady Soldier says they already introduced legislation to abolish the Electoral College.

02:01:38.000 I think it's time to get more aggressive, like shutting down D.C.

02:01:40.000 I haven't seen that, honestly.

02:01:43.000 I've seen some stuff, but it'll never happen.

02:01:44.000 It requires a two-thirds ratification.

02:01:46.000 That's just not going to happen.

02:01:47.000 That's not going to happen.

02:01:48.000 They propose stuff all the time.

02:01:50.000 I've seen some sweeping outright gun bans, and I'm like, it'll never happen.

02:01:54.000 Because you can't.

02:01:55.000 You would need two-thirds ratification from all these states.

02:01:58.000 You're not going to get it.

02:01:59.000 Republicans are closer to two-thirds than Democrats are.

02:02:02.000 Republicans have 30 states.

02:02:04.000 So you would need, what, like 37?

02:02:06.000 So, yeah.

02:02:08.000 These massive changes won't happen.

02:02:10.000 And because of Joe Manchin, they probably won't be able to pack the Supreme Court.

02:02:14.000 Nathaniel Gordon says everyone should cancel the YouTube subscription to your channel and go to your actual page.

02:02:19.000 On a side note, how do you feel about an independent audit of every government official?

02:02:23.000 Oh, I'm for it.

02:02:24.000 Absolutely.

02:02:25.000 Like, it'll really happen.

02:02:26.000 They'll weaponize and use it against the politicians we do like. 1.00

02:02:29.000 But that is good advice, Nathaniel!

02:02:31.000 If you are a member or just want to support me in general, support both, then go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we're going to have exclusive behind-the-scenes content, events, and live streams coming soon just for our members.

02:02:44.000 So we should have one put up tomorrow because we're going to hang out a little bit after the show and create some exclusive content.

02:02:50.000 So let's just do a couple more of these super chats.

02:02:52.000 Bobcat says, Tim, look through history.

02:02:54.000 America has survived far worse than anything we face today.

02:02:57.000 We're not facing anything we haven't beaten before. 1.00

02:02:59.000 Just trust that our founding fathers weren't idiots. 0.98

02:03:01.000 I agree, but it doesn't mean that we aren't going to go through conflict and turmoil. 0.98

02:03:05.000 It may be the end of the American empire in the sense that we have military bases all over the world.

02:03:09.000 America will exist as a country, but it will change.

02:03:11.000 We're a radically different country from when we were founded.

02:03:13.000 So we should still do everything to prevent it from getting worse.

02:03:17.000 Yeah.

02:03:18.000 Logan Luck says, here is my stimulus.

02:03:20.000 Your work is so important to me.

02:03:22.000 If we had an honest journalism apparatus, the corrupt government could not exist.

02:03:25.000 The MSM is the real enemy.

02:03:27.000 Logan gave us a $500 super chat.

02:03:29.000 That is, wow, seriously.

02:03:31.000 Really appreciate it.

02:03:33.000 Don't super chat us anything you are in need of if you need a stimulus, by all means, you know.

02:03:37.000 The show does, the show is doing all right.

02:03:39.000 Our biggest, biggest concern is the banhammer.

02:03:42.000 The purge is coming.

02:03:43.000 Jack Dorsey said it.

02:03:44.000 So I'm like, well, Look, if I get banned and I'm totally out, then go fishing.

02:03:49.000 I'm not going to cry about it.

02:03:50.000 But before that happens, I will set up safety nets and try and make sure that doesn't happen to us.

02:03:56.000 Track Media Only says, as Cali fails, do you think they will just allow a divorce?

02:04:02.000 They will come for what others have to support their existence.

02:04:05.000 10 year tax thing sound familiar?

02:04:07.000 Far left takes what others have.

02:04:08.000 It can't sustain itself without what you have.

02:04:11.000 Yeah.

02:04:11.000 California wants to pass a tax where if you spend at least half a year in the state, no, no, I think it's 60 days or something.

02:04:19.000 They can tax you for 10 years out of state.

02:04:22.000 That's never going to fly.

02:04:23.000 That's not gonna fly, but it sounds like California.

02:04:25.000 You said theft wrong, Tim.

02:04:27.000 Theft?

02:04:28.000 Yeah.

02:04:28.000 Taxation?

02:04:28.000 Yes.

02:04:31.000 Let's see.

02:04:31.000 Gareth Green says White Castle still exists, but it was once the dominant hamburger chain before the rise of McDonald's.

02:04:36.000 Really?

02:04:37.000 I don't like White Castle.

02:04:39.000 I like them.

02:04:41.000 Let's see.

02:04:41.000 Ambiguous Castaway says, dude, they are censoring you and other Republicans super hard on Twitter.

02:04:46.000 Check your suggestions on Twitter.

02:04:48.000 I don't care. 0.98

02:04:49.000 They could ban me and I'd be like, well, you know, I guess it kind of sucks. 0.96

02:04:52.000 I hate Twitter so much. 0.96

02:04:54.000 Oh, here's good news.

02:04:54.000 Todd Harris says only fans didn't ban Trump.

02:04:57.000 Maybe we'll see him there soon.

02:04:58.000 Oh my goodness.

02:04:59.000 Oh, that's amazing.

02:05:00.000 All right.

02:05:01.000 We'll take just two more.

02:05:03.000 Tim Pauls says, Hey Tim, we have the same initials, lol.

02:05:07.000 Will you be releasing more original music?

02:05:09.000 Also, I heard Trump declassified Obamagate stuff.

02:05:11.000 Not sure if you guys covered that.

02:05:12.000 Got here late.

02:05:13.000 We didn't.

02:05:14.000 We do have more music coming.

02:05:15.000 I recorded scratch tracks for like six songs.

02:05:18.000 So we'll see what happens when it happens.

02:05:20.000 And then I probably have like, probably a thousand songs.

02:05:24.000 I'm not even kidding.

02:05:25.000 But you know, of the songs that I would actually probably want to use, I've been playing music since I was like 7 years old, so yes, there's probably like a thousand different songs.

02:05:34.000 There's probably like 50 that I think would be worth recording, so... Alright, last one.

02:05:38.000 Let's see what we got here.

02:05:40.000 Silently in Atlanta says, The Force is with Luke, so Dawg's new name is Logan.

02:05:44.000 By the way, ever see the movie Trial of Chicago 7?

02:05:47.000 Flip red and blue, and take the third party and regroup.

02:05:50.000 Roll the effort to change the culture and backbone of your Republicans.

02:05:54.000 Well, right on.

02:05:55.000 I think it's really, uh, culture is the key, man.

02:05:59.000 I agree.

02:06:00.000 I definitely agree with that comment.

02:06:01.000 So, what's the name of your dog?

02:06:02.000 I think it's gonna be Atlas.

02:06:04.000 That's not bad.

02:06:05.000 Yeah, I like that.

02:06:06.000 I think Atlas is fair.

02:06:07.000 But then people are gonna call her Addy or something.

02:06:09.000 Whatever.

02:06:09.000 Yeah.

02:06:10.000 It has double meanings.

02:06:11.000 Well, gentlemen!

02:06:12.000 Oh yeah, one last thing.

02:06:14.000 Thank you so much, Tim Pool's mom, for sending me an alien dog chew toy.

02:06:18.000 I really appreciate it.

02:06:20.000 It was really kind-hearted of you.

02:06:23.000 The dog loves the chew toy and we love it too, so thank you very much.

02:06:27.000 And you want to mention your fancy shirts one more time?

02:06:30.000 Oh, yes, yes.

02:06:31.000 So my email list is on wearechange.org.

02:06:34.000 Definitely sign up on there.

02:06:35.000 My independent news organization is We Are Change on YouTube.

02:06:39.000 And because I got demonetized, I started making shirts.

02:06:42.000 And that's the best way to kind of support me.

02:06:44.000 I think I have over 100 shirts now.

02:06:46.000 Check them all out on wearechange.org forward slash shirts.

02:06:50.000 Cool.

02:06:50.000 Gentlemen, thanks so much for hanging out.

02:06:52.000 You want to mention your socials and your documentary?

02:06:54.000 Oh, you can just look me up at lexognikbasu and you can find the documentary at dailycaller.com.

02:07:02.000 Yeah, I'm Jorge Ventura, field correspondent on Twitter.

02:07:04.000 I'm VenturaReport on Instagram, JorgeVenturaTV.

02:07:08.000 And like Sonic said, new restaurant documentary just released.

02:07:11.000 It's on DailyCaller.com.

02:07:12.000 It's free, easy.

02:07:13.000 It's not behind a paywall.

02:07:15.000 And once again, you know, speaking from the behalf of Daily Caller, Tim, we really appreciate just getting to share what these Americans are going through in Southern California.

02:07:23.000 To these owners, it was very important to get the story out there.

02:07:25.000 Right on.

02:07:25.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:07:26.000 Maybe hold on one last thing.

02:07:27.000 Maybe we could do a Daily Caller vs. Tim Pool team airsoft match soon.

02:07:32.000 And we should live stream that.

02:07:33.000 And maybe do like a whole vlog series.

02:07:35.000 That would be members only content right there for you.

02:07:39.000 We're in the middle of nowhere, big wooded area.

02:07:42.000 And yeah.

02:07:42.000 I got some combat training.

02:07:44.000 I want to get out of my system.

02:07:45.000 It'll be really fun to do it up with Airsoft and have those two different teams together.

02:07:49.000 And we could even have, you know, betting odds, or not even betting odds, but let's play for a wager of some sort.

02:07:56.000 Cool.

02:07:57.000 Sure.

02:07:57.000 I like that.

02:07:57.000 That's a good idea.

02:07:58.000 Don't forget you can follow at Sour Patch Lids.

02:08:00.000 She's present on the books.

02:08:01.000 You can, and I am actually now on Gab.

02:08:03.000 Sour Patch Lids was already taken.

02:08:05.000 I was crushed last night to discover that.

02:08:06.000 So I am real Sour Patch Lids.

02:08:09.000 L-Y-D-S there as well, so you can follow me on Gab.

02:08:12.000 I have like a hundred something followers on there, and I'm really looking forward to using it instead of Twitter, so follow me there.

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02:08:23.000 We do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m., so come hang out.

02:08:26.000 We'll be back tomorrow.

02:08:28.000 Should be a whole lot of fun, but don't forget to go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're actually gonna do another segment, and I think it's gonna be, you know, it's probably gonna be humorous nonsense, to be completely honest.

02:08:37.000 Because we were talking about something before they started the show that I want to keep talking about.

02:08:42.000 Yes.

02:08:42.000 We'll see how it rolls.

02:08:44.000 We just launched TimCast.com this past week.

02:08:47.000 We still got to work out all the bugs. 0.63

02:08:48.000 So the secret to starting any business is to just do it, which means the first bits of members-only content you're probably going to get, you're probably going to be like, that is ridiculous and silly.

02:08:56.000 And then we're eventually going to get in the flow of things and figure out the real value that we can provide with our guests and the conversations that are a bonus.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 15, 2021

Timcast IRL - Far Leftist CHARGED For Participation in Capitol Riot w-Jorge Ventura

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