Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Fauci Announces RESIGNATION, GOP Says He Fears Investigations w-Joe Ladapo

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00:00:27.000 Anthony Fauci has announced his resignation and he announced it early

00:00:42.000 About a month ago, he said he was going to resign at the end of Joe Biden's first term.

00:00:46.000 Now he's going to be resigning in December.

00:00:48.000 He says he's not retiring, though.

00:00:50.000 He's going to keep working, just, you know, not in government.

00:00:53.000 Republicans have responded that this has a lot to do with potential investigations coming after the midterm elections.

00:01:00.000 And I think that's probably right.

00:01:02.000 Now, we actually struggled with what to lead with.

00:01:04.000 I think, you know, Fauci announcing his resignation...

00:01:08.000 What is this?

00:01:08.000 Oh, that might be coming from me.

00:01:10.000 Is it?

00:01:10.000 Ian?

00:01:11.000 Did you hear that?

00:01:11.000 Ian, what are you doing?

00:01:12.000 I'm an animal.

00:01:13.000 I'm watching the show! 0.95

00:01:15.000 The YouTube's screwed up.

00:01:16.000 Ian turns his volume all the way up.

00:01:19.000 All right, so we were actually struggling with which story to lead with because there's another story.

00:01:24.000 Two bombs were planted in West Virginia, one at a federal courthouse and one at a church.

00:01:29.000 The bomb squad showed up and detonated the device in the federal courthouse.

00:01:32.000 We don't know exactly why or what happened.

00:01:35.000 There's some other news, too.

00:01:36.000 Donald Trump is suing to block the FBI from reviewing seized materials, according to some people who worked in the Trump administration.

00:01:43.000 They believe that these materials are related to the Russiagate investigation, which makes a lot of sense.

00:01:48.000 And we've also seen reporting that the FBI group that went after these documents was the same group that actually led the Russia collusion FBI investigation.

00:01:57.000 So it sounds like things are pretty corrupt across the board.

00:02:00.000 We got a lot of stuff to talk about.

00:02:01.000 This is crazy.

00:02:02.000 Plus the assassination of Alexander Dugin's daughter.

00:02:05.000 Man, what a Monday, I guess.

00:02:07.000 Wow.

00:02:07.000 Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com to become a member if you'd like to support our work.

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00:02:18.000 We're going to get in deep details about COVID and vaccines because... So first, let me say, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and the after show is going to be particularly important because we are being joined by the Surgeon General of Florida, Joe Latipo.

00:02:36.000 Thank you.

00:02:36.000 I'm very happy to be here with you tonight.

00:02:38.000 So do you want to give a brief introduction on who you are, what you do?

00:02:42.000 Yeah, sure.

00:02:43.000 My name is Joe Latipo.

00:02:44.000 I am the Surgeon General of Florida.

00:02:46.000 Prior to that, I was a professor at UCLA and prior to that, I was a professor at NYU and I'm a physician.

00:02:54.000 I'm a researcher.

00:02:54.000 I have a background in research and I mostly did research and I took care of patients at UCLA Ronald Reagan Hospital in West Los Angeles.

00:03:04.000 And I've enjoyed my position as the Surgeon General of Florida.

00:03:09.000 And, you know, we'll talk more about some medical health issues at some point, I think.

00:03:15.000 Perfect timing.

00:03:16.000 I mean, we book you and then Fauci announces he's resigning.

00:03:19.000 He may have resigned because you booked me.

00:03:21.000 That's right, that's right.

00:03:22.000 Oh no!

00:03:22.000 The temperature's getting warmer.

00:03:24.000 When Joe walked in, I'm like, my race is kind of screwed up because I was skating, so, you know.

00:03:29.000 And then he's like, let me see.

00:03:30.000 And he actually, as a doctor, took a look at my wrist.

00:03:32.000 So this guy's a real doctor.

00:03:34.000 Glad you could be here.

00:03:35.000 Tim promised not to sue.

00:03:37.000 That's right.

00:03:42.000 Glad you're here.

00:03:43.000 We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

00:03:44.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

00:03:45.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:03:48.000 That's it.

00:03:48.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:49.000 Ian Crosland here.

00:03:50.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:51.000 Good to see you.

00:03:52.000 Let's get rolling.

00:03:52.000 We also got Chris Poole.

00:03:55.000 Hi, I'm Chris.

00:03:56.000 Lydia's not on vacation.

00:03:57.000 She's getting... Wait, is it public why she's off today?

00:04:00.000 Yeah, she posted it online.

00:04:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:04:01.000 She's got surgery.

00:04:02.000 I'm like, wait, am I going to announce that she's getting surgery and no one knows?

00:04:04.000 Getting a wrist fix.

00:04:05.000 Yeah, see, I fell and hurt my wrist and I ignored it.

00:04:08.000 And now it's like a month later and it's still messed up, but I'm like, whatever.

00:04:11.000 I can still type and play the guitar and everything.

00:04:13.000 And the doctor over here took a look at it and it seems okay, right?

00:04:17.000 Did I stay ready that he promised not to sue if I misdiagnosed him?

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 You know, Tim should have, he should probably have a brace.

00:04:25.000 He should probably get some physical therapy.

00:04:28.000 You guys need to tell his mom so that, you know, someone can make him do it.

00:04:32.000 Get Joanne fired up. 1.00

00:04:34.000 I think Lydia did the more responsible thing. 1.00

00:04:35.000 She went to the doctor and they were like, we need to give you surgery.

00:04:37.000 And then I'm just kind of like, you know, it just kind of pops out.

00:04:39.000 When you investigated his wrist, what was it?

00:04:40.000 Was it a little like swollen?

00:04:42.000 Tender?

00:04:43.000 What'd you notice?

00:04:44.000 He doesn't have any swelling, but he's got some laxness in some of his wrist joints, and he probably just needs to kind of have it immobilized.

00:04:55.000 Really?

00:04:55.000 So that's probably part of the treatment plan for him.

00:04:59.000 Yeah.

00:05:02.000 You know, you're not, you're not arthritic when you're, when you're a little bit, you know, we got a, we got a music video coming out on Friday.

00:05:10.000 So now's not the time to immobilize my wrist.

00:05:13.000 So I actually just submerge it and let it just float in the tub.

00:05:15.000 Does that help?

00:05:16.000 You can be like a doctor and be a bad patient.

00:05:19.000 So you can, you can wear the wrist brace and then take it off to play guitar and skateboard.

00:05:24.000 And then when you come into the doctor's office, say that you've been adherent.

00:05:27.000 So that's how doctors are.

00:05:28.000 I put the wrist brace on when I am skating.

00:05:31.000 So I was skateboarding earlier and I always wear the wrist guard.

00:05:34.000 And I actually fell on it and I'm glad I was wearing the wrist guard.

00:05:39.000 And then when I'm doing the bigger ramps now, I started wearing a helmet.

00:05:42.000 Because I started thinking about it and I'm like, I've never hit my head in my life.

00:05:46.000 But it would kind of suck for everybody who worked here if I hit my head and they lost their jobs.

00:05:50.000 Yes, I'm really opposed to this.

00:05:51.000 I would personally like it if you wore a helmet every time.

00:05:53.000 So I wore a helmet.

00:05:54.000 Me and your mom are like, Tim, put a helmet on.

00:05:57.000 My mom's like, my son's in danger.

00:05:58.000 And Hannah Clay's like, my job's in danger.

00:06:00.000 No, no.

00:06:00.000 I mean, I don't want you to get hurt.

00:06:02.000 But also, like, I like working at this super cool news site, CultiveGast.com.

00:06:06.000 I kind of need you to be there.

00:06:07.000 Let's jump to this first story from the National Review.

00:06:11.000 Anthony Fauci plans to step down in December.

00:06:13.000 That's it.

00:06:14.000 He wrote a big, long thing saying, I will be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue the next chapter of my career.

00:06:19.000 He's 81.

00:06:20.000 What's the next chapter of your career?

00:06:22.000 I mean, I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but it's like, bro, get your rocking chair, sit on your porch, rock back and forth with a nice sweet tea and enjoy your sunny days, man.

00:06:30.000 But he's saying he's still got a lot to do.

00:06:33.000 Now, the big thing here is, let me see if I have it pulled up.

00:06:36.000 Newsweek writes, Fauci resigning out of fear of GOP investigations, say Republicans.

00:06:43.000 In December, Fauci will forfeit his roles as the chief of the NIAID, Laboratory of Immunoregulation, and President Joe Biden's chief medical advisor, saying he wants to pursue the next chapter of my career.

00:06:53.000 Republicans believe Fauci is leaving government due to the possibility that the GOP will take control of the House in November.

00:06:58.000 Quote, Dr. Fauci is conveniently resigning from his position in December before House Republicans have an opportunity to hold him accountable for destroying our country over these past three years.

00:07:09.000 The Republican Rep.

00:07:10.000 Andy Biggs of Arizona tweeted, Adding that Fauci will be held accountable whether or not he remains in public office. 1.00

00:07:16.000 This guy is a coward. 0.99

00:07:17.000 Well, maybe that's the case. 0.99

00:07:20.000 But if he's not actively in government and they start investigating him, it won't disrupt whatever those institutions are actually doing.

00:07:27.000 So either way, this move will absolutely help Joe Biden's administration over the next couple of years and the NIAID.

00:07:36.000 But I'm curious, Joe, considering you're actually, I mean, Surgeon General, you're like the top doctor of Florida, right?

00:07:41.000 As crazy as it sounds.

00:07:43.000 I mean, I have to pinch myself.

00:07:44.000 I am literally the top doctor of Florida, which is kind of nuts.

00:07:47.000 Well, what do you think about this?

00:07:49.000 You think his resignation is just career stuff?

00:07:51.000 What do you think about Fauci?

00:07:53.000 Well, you know, I think Dr. Fauci is a creepy guy, to be totally honest.

00:08:00.000 He gives me the creeps.

00:08:02.000 I think that he is enigmatic of a physician who is really more of a politician and more

00:08:15.000 about sort of agendas than about health.

00:08:19.000 I mean, that's been very obvious with how he handled the pandemic.

00:08:22.000 Not a single word, right?

00:08:23.000 You have a condition where obesity is a major risk factor.

00:08:27.000 Did he ever say, Hey Americans, by the way, you know, lose weight if you're overweight, get some exercise.

00:08:33.000 I didn't hear that out of his house.

00:08:34.000 He did once say vitamin D though.

00:08:37.000 He, he did say vitamin D is important.

00:08:39.000 He did say that once and he said that once.

00:08:43.000 Never again.

00:08:45.000 Right.

00:08:45.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 Right.

00:08:46.000 That is that is the creepiest thing to me about a lot of this is that during the pandemic, people had had pointed out quite extensively vitamin D, you know, getting sunlight, getting exercise, getting fresh air.

00:08:56.000 And these things were really important.

00:08:58.000 But this was never the official guidance.

00:09:00.000 It was never the narrative.

00:09:02.000 In fact, it was quite the opposite.

00:09:03.000 Stay inside.

00:09:04.000 Don't go outside.

00:09:04.000 And in big cities, they locked everybody in their homes.

00:09:07.000 Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:09:08.000 And, you know, there's some controversy over vitamin D, but it's not killing anyone.

00:09:13.000 So it was the right thing to do.

00:09:15.000 What's the vitamin D controversy?

00:09:16.000 Well, it's, you know, vitamin D is very mysterious because there is study after study that shows that if you have low levels of vitamin D, you're at higher risk for everything.

00:09:27.000 Depression, high blood pressure, cancer.

00:09:30.000 I mean, you name it.

00:09:32.000 Infection.

00:09:33.000 But the clinical trials have not usually shown what the other studies have shown.

00:09:41.000 Not all of them, though.

00:09:42.000 Some of them have shown a reduction in infection, actually, with vitamin D pre-pandemic.

00:09:48.000 But again, it's very interesting.

00:09:50.000 The studies go both ways.

00:09:53.000 And what gets me, actually, is that, you know, Maybe it doesn't work, but there's a class of doctors who are just rabid about trying to stop people from using medications that are low risk and are uncertain.

00:10:12.000 They just want to keep saying, no, that doesn't work.

00:10:14.000 No, that doesn't work.

00:10:16.000 I don't want to get too nerdy, but fluvoxamine is a medication that had a couple clinical trials that showed benefit in COVID.

00:10:24.000 And I recommended it to patients because there was data.

00:10:30.000 But another trial just came out that didn't find a benefit and the writers at the New England Journal of Medicine slammed this medication.

00:10:40.000 But the problem is the medication was dosed at like 50% of the dose that worked.

00:10:45.000 So how can you conclude that something doesn't work when you're not even dosing it right?

00:10:50.000 But they're just crazy about concluding things don't work and telling people not to use stuff.

00:10:54.000 What was the one you just mentioned?

00:10:56.000 Fluvoxamine.

00:10:57.000 Fluvoxamine.

00:10:58.000 What is that?

00:10:59.000 Actually, it's a medication for anxiety.

00:11:03.000 And it just so happens that one of the ways it works is on a receptor that is also needed by the virus.

00:11:10.000 So a few clinical trials have shown that it benefits people.

00:11:13.000 But so this is not an official treatment.

00:11:15.000 It's not approved or anything like that.

00:11:17.000 It's not an official treatment.

00:11:18.000 The FDA actually reviewed it recently and they decided not to give it the thumbs up.

00:11:24.000 And, you know, that was criticized by some advocates of the of the medication.

00:11:28.000 And, you know, the FDA, it wasn't that they didn't make the right decision, but they took forever to make the decision.

00:11:34.000 And this thing, we could have had the answer to this like two years ago, literally.

00:11:39.000 But there was, you know, there was very little interest in treatment during the pandemic, as many people know.

00:11:43.000 There's several treatments that have become notorious and YouTube explicitly bans people for advocating for things like that.

00:11:54.000 The strange thing to me about a lot of it is if the argument was always talk to your doctor, Why is it that if a doctor recommends something publicly, it's unacceptable and it's bannable?

00:12:05.000 Look, I understand this.

00:12:07.000 There's a lot of crazy people saying a lot of crazy things online.

00:12:10.000 And I can understand there's a fear that during a pandemic, someone's telling you to do something wacky or wild.

00:12:15.000 And, you know, they want to control that, but you can't.

00:12:19.000 That's the thing.

00:12:20.000 You literally can't.

00:12:21.000 You've got a bunch of doctors who are like, I'm a doctor.

00:12:23.000 Here's what I recommend.

00:12:23.000 And they're like, you're banned.

00:12:24.000 And it's like, but Fauci's not practicing.

00:12:26.000 Is that correct?

00:12:27.000 Like he wasn't practicing for 30 years?

00:12:29.000 I don't think he still sees patients, certainly not actively or frequently.

00:12:33.000 So the issue I take with Fauci over the past several years, notably during the peak of the pandemic, was the wishy-washiness, the flip-flopping, which he justified as, oh, the science is changing.

00:12:45.000 Oh gosh, he don't justify anything.

00:12:47.000 That guy, I mean, he's so slippery and slick. 0.98

00:12:52.000 He's completely dishonest. 0.75

00:12:53.000 It's ironic that so many Americans trust him.

00:12:56.000 And he is probably one of the least trustworthy doctors I've ever observed in my life.

00:13:01.000 But he's not even, my understanding, not practicing for a very, very long time.

00:13:05.000 He's a bureaucrat more than anything.

00:13:06.000 Oh, that's for sure.

00:13:07.000 But he's coming off on TV as if he is the expert.

00:13:09.000 And because of the things he says, you end up with these really weird tribalist positions where, very famously early on, he said, don't wear masks.

00:13:17.000 Later on, he said, the reason they were saying that was because they needed the masks for the nurses and the doctors and it was more important they got it.

00:13:23.000 And it was like, so which is it?

00:13:24.000 You know, were you, did the science change or were you aware and you didn't want people buying masks?

00:13:30.000 Either way you cut it, he's dishonest.

00:13:33.000 By the way, the science didn't change.

00:13:35.000 But either way you cut it, he's dishonest.

00:13:36.000 Because the thing is, the clinical trials before the pandemic, almost all of them found no benefit from regular folks walking around with masks.

00:13:46.000 I'm not talking about hospitals.

00:13:47.000 I'm talking about walking around the city, like you see, or going to the grocery store wearing a mask.

00:13:52.000 So, that's what the studies showed.

00:13:54.000 So, the rationale behind him flipping or who knows... Then why did he change his position?

00:14:00.000 That's a great question.

00:14:02.000 I mean, you know, what he said, of course, was that he was trying to save the masks for healthcare workers.

00:14:07.000 But how can you even believe... I mean, it's hard to... Well, so I'll say this.

00:14:12.000 We've had conversations about masks before.

00:14:16.000 We're outside of all of this pandemic stuff now, so I don't know where any of YouTube's policies sit on this stuff.

00:14:22.000 But we've pulled up the CDC's website, and it actually... It's not as crazy as a lot of... There's the pro-mask people and the anti-mask people.

00:14:31.000 It's actually decently...

00:14:34.000 I mean, moderate when it comes to masks.

00:14:36.000 Like, the CDC said there's a marginal benefit.

00:14:39.000 It's decent enough that they would recommend it in some circumstances.

00:14:42.000 Like, the obvious thing I would say, you know, obviously if you're sick and you're wearing a mask, you're gonna stop some coughing, sneezing, and spitting on people, and something like that, right?

00:14:49.000 Sure, but that's different from whether wearing a mask reduces the chance of someone else getting a virus.

00:14:57.000 And even, you know, I get it, like the idea that you think something's going to work and therefore it should work, but that's why we have clinical studies.

00:15:05.000 Well, but the CDC on their website now says that there was a moderate reduction in like 70 different studies.

00:15:11.000 At least this is the last time we pulled up this huge list of studies.

00:15:14.000 Yeah, I know.

00:15:15.000 And so this is dishonest science.

00:15:18.000 Because what, you know, I mentioned vitamin D earlier, right?

00:15:21.000 So you've got your observational studies that always find a relationship.

00:15:25.000 We're at the low levels and bad health outcomes.

00:15:28.000 And then you've got your clinical trials that unfortunately most of the time haven't found a benefit.

00:15:33.000 Same thing goes for masks.

00:15:35.000 They pull up these observational studies, and they hang their hats on them, and the observational studies are finding these huge reductions, and then they say, oh, look at this, the masks work great, you know, and make those, you know, everyone should wear them, including kids, like the most ridiculous part.

00:15:51.000 I've got little kids myself.

00:15:53.000 But then you look at the, we did, there were, during the pandemic, there were at least two large clinical trials.

00:16:00.000 One found zip, zero, no benefit.

00:16:03.000 The second was found in Denmark.

00:16:06.000 Pardon?

00:16:07.000 Was that also an observational study?

00:16:08.000 No, no, this was a clinical trial.

00:16:09.000 Like this is, you know, you randomize people, you give, you know, and you, that's the gold standard for testing stuff, whether something actually works.

00:16:18.000 That's how, you know, if it really works and it should work in a clinical trial too, And one study found zero, no benefit.

00:16:25.000 There was so much spin, by the way, when that study came out by medical doctors trying to explain why there wasn't a benefit.

00:16:32.000 The second study basically found no benefit.

00:16:35.000 There was no benefit for a cloth mask.

00:16:37.000 Zero.

00:16:38.000 None whatsoever.

00:16:39.000 For surgical masks, there was like a 10% reduction.

00:16:42.000 So, you know, 12% versus 11% of people tested positive.

00:16:47.000 Like, this is the thing that they're letting people fight over in airports about.

00:16:50.000 And then for young people, there was zero benefit whatsoever in the second study.

00:16:56.000 So it's a big lie.

00:16:58.000 I mean, it's not like they don't know what evidence is.

00:17:01.000 That's what evidence is.

00:17:02.000 Well, so let me pull up this from Los Angeles Daily News.

00:17:06.000 Mask mandate didn't work against COVID-19 in LA, say doctors from USC and UCLA.

00:17:12.000 Letter from doctor said masking had limited effect and it's best to stress vaccines.

00:17:16.000 Other doctors still back masks.

00:17:18.000 I think that one of the biggest problems we have right now is YouTube censorship policies.

00:17:24.000 I mean, how do you even have a conversation on science if science changes if you're not allowed to discuss science changing?

00:17:30.000 Dr. Fauci came out early on and said not to wear masks.

00:17:32.000 He then came back later and said, okay, now wear masks.

00:17:35.000 Now we have U.S.C.

00:17:35.000 and U.C.L.A.

00:17:36.000 saying the mandates didn't actually do anything to stop this.

00:17:39.000 So my question is, how can YouTube set a censorship policy when U.C.L.A.

00:17:44.000 and U.S.C.

00:17:45.000 has issued these statements like this, right?

00:17:47.000 I mean, it's an untenable situation you can't even have a public conversation about.

00:17:52.000 How are we supposed to address any of this stuff?

00:17:54.000 How are we supposed to function as a society if that is how big tech is handling it?

00:17:58.000 I totally agree with you.

00:18:00.000 Their agenda seems more political from my perspective, from everything I've seen.

00:18:07.000 I think it's a pretty rotten system.

00:18:09.000 I think it's hurt people.

00:18:12.000 It's not a business that's going very well for them in terms of regulating knowledge and opinions.

00:18:17.000 So where does Fauci go from here?

00:18:18.000 What do you guys think?

00:18:21.000 When I came in, I said, you know, the number one indication of why someone is resigning is because they failed.

00:18:28.000 I don't know if that's why he's resigning, because he's now admitting defeat and failure, or if he's realized, I've come to the point in my career where I can no longer serve, I'm resigning.

00:18:36.000 Like doing the right thing.

00:18:37.000 Maybe he's doing the right thing.

00:18:38.000 He'd probably write a book.

00:18:40.000 I think he could do any number of things.

00:18:41.000 He is entitled to I think the largest retirement package in federal history because he's the highest paid federal government employee.

00:18:49.000 That's like a study from Open the Books or a report from Open the Books in December of 2021.

00:18:53.000 I covered it for our site.

00:18:56.000 So in some ways it is interesting to me that he is not.

00:18:59.000 opting to retire because he'd still make a lot of money off of retiring.

00:19:04.000 In some ways to me it's hard not to read vanity into this.

00:19:07.000 Retiring means that you're old and retiring means that you like are no longer supposed to have an opinion and right now he wields a lot of influence so if he retires he is acting as if he's going to step back and he doesn't want to.

00:19:19.000 I mean this is the man who while by the pandemic filmed a documentary about himself with Disney.

00:19:25.000 It's a It doesn't seem like he knows where he wants to go, but he does not want to leave the limelight.

00:19:31.000 And of course that's subjective, although...

00:19:34.000 Retiring does seem like a totally plausible option for him.

00:19:38.000 He did, I think I was talking about this before the show, in July, there was this report from Politico.

00:19:43.000 He'd done this interview and Politico reported that Fauci intended to retire at the end of Biden's administration.

00:19:48.000 So that would be next December, not this one.

00:19:51.000 And then the day after they published, he was like, no, I'm not going to retire.

00:19:54.000 What do you mean?

00:19:54.000 I didn't say that, even though they have him on record saying that.

00:19:57.000 So, it seems like, again, this idea of retiring has a lot of fear for him, and whether it's because he thinks he opens the door for an investigation or it's vanity, it's hard to say.

00:20:06.000 Are you saying that he could have stayed at the job longer and then retired and got a monetary package?

00:20:11.000 Yeah, he's entitled to a government pension, and because he's been working for the federal government for, I think, four decades, it's very sizable.

00:20:18.000 And even though he's resigning, is he still getting the same package?

00:20:20.000 I believe he still has access to it, but again, he's not publicly retiring, and to me, that speaks to vanity.

00:20:25.000 He doesn't want to seem like the old out-of-touch doctor.

00:20:28.000 I want to ask real quick, because I don't want to stick around on this subject too much, but I pulled up the CDC.gov and they mentioned, so explain to me what these studies mean.

00:20:37.000 It says, this is from the CDC, the CDC still recommends wearing masks if you're going to be in large gatherings.

00:20:43.000 This is a large, well-designed cluster, randomized trial in Bangladesh in late 2020 found that surgical or cloth mask distribution Role modeling and active mask promotion tripled mask use by 42.3% in intervention villages compared to 13.4% blah blah blah.

00:20:58.000 In villages receiving mask interventions, symptomatic seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 was reduced by approximately 9% relative to comparison villages.

00:21:07.000 In villages randomized to receive surgical masks, symptomatic seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 was significantly lower, 11.1% overall.

00:21:14.000 The results of the study show that even modest increases in community use can effectively reduce symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections.

00:21:21.000 So that sounds like they do, you know, like I was saying, you know, the CDC often says it's marginal nine to 10%.

00:21:27.000 I mean, that's good though, right?

00:21:31.000 So that's not good.

00:21:32.000 Like, so, so that nine or 10%, so the seroprevalence that they mentioned.

00:21:38.000 What does that mean by the way, seroprevalence?

00:21:39.000 So they test people's blood for antibodies to the virus as an indicator of prior infection, right?

00:21:48.000 So so 9 or 10% that's called a that's a relative reduction.

00:21:53.000 So if you have the villages that get the the villages that get the masks and Their seroprevalence is is 12% and you have the villages that don't get the masks and their seroprevalence is 11% That's a 10% reduction Oh, 10% of 12 is 1.

00:22:12.000 Yeah, right.

00:22:14.000 That's some lazy... So that is what happened.

00:22:18.000 That's what happened.

00:22:19.000 And that, by the way, is just another... that's just an example of why doctors like Myself, and I think probably some of the other doctors you've had on your show, are just fed up with the lies and the misrepresentation of science.

00:22:36.000 That is exactly what happened.

00:22:38.000 You're familiar with the study you're saying?

00:22:39.000 Oh yeah, that's the second clinical trial that I mentioned.

00:22:42.000 So this is not what the CDC says though?

00:22:45.000 Well, they're saying that you went from 12% to 11% and that was a significant, that shows that it makes a big difference.

00:22:53.000 It doesn't mention the 12%.

00:22:55.000 It just says that COVID, seroprevalence in villages with masks was reduced by 9%.

00:23:00.000 In villages randomized to receive surgical masks, it was down 11.1%.

00:23:05.000 Right.

00:23:06.000 Right.

00:23:06.000 So that's a relative reduction.

00:23:08.000 And I just happened to remember from reading the study that the seroprevalence, it was in the teens, right?

00:23:14.000 So there was like a one percentage point difference in the prevalence.

00:23:19.000 That's a fact.

00:23:20.000 I mean, that's what that exactly.

00:23:22.000 Yeah.

00:23:22.000 Cause it sounds like it's going from 22% to 10.

00:23:24.000 It even gets worse.

00:23:25.000 Go ahead.

00:23:26.000 This is funny.

00:23:26.000 It sounds like you're saying masks work.

00:23:30.000 Well, it actually gets worse than that.

00:23:32.000 So we have a threshold in health policy and epidemiology and statistics for when we consider a difference as being significant.

00:23:43.000 You know, it's kind of arbitrary, but that's how things work.

00:23:47.000 So that threshold in that study, like if this is a threshold, right?

00:23:52.000 Say we were checking, you know, say we were testing the effect of exercise on heart disease, right?

00:23:59.000 You know, if this is a threshold, you compare people that exercise with people who don't, like you're like way below the threshold.

00:24:05.000 It clearly is beneficial for health.

00:24:08.000 The threshold for that study was right here.

00:24:11.000 It was barely significant.

00:24:14.000 They barely reached significance.

00:24:17.000 I mean, that is an extremely weak finding.

00:24:20.000 Well, I can only say that, you know, the CDC still has on their website the recommendation and several studies, but I don't know how to reconcile that with the NewsGuard-certified Los Angeles Daily News saying that scientists, doctors from USC and UCLA, saying that masking had a limited effect.

00:24:37.000 It sounds like they're saying more in line with what you were saying.

00:24:39.000 In fact, you were at UCLA, I believe.

00:24:41.000 I was at UCLA, and what they're saying is factual, based on the data.

00:24:47.000 Maybe they work a lot better, but that hasn't been shown from clinical trials.

00:24:51.000 Is there evidence that if you have a dirty mask with, like, fecal, like, just gross up, and you breathe it in, that it'll make you sick?

00:25:00.000 I'm laughing at the fecal, I don't know why you went there.

00:25:02.000 Putrefactive bacteria, let's talk about it.

00:25:06.000 Well, if you have fecal stuff on your mask, you probably will get sick.

00:25:10.000 Typhus?

00:25:10.000 Halitosis?

00:25:13.000 Well, you know, actually there are some studies that show some evidence of harm, potential harm.

00:25:19.000 You know, they don't get a lot of, they don't get any media attention, but there are some studies that show harm.

00:25:24.000 In fact, There was a clinical trial of cloth masks among doctors, healthcare workers in Thailand, I think it was Thailand, that was published years ago in the British Medical Journal, which is a very good journal, that compared cloth masks to surgical masks.

00:25:41.000 And basically, the people in the cloth mask group got more infections.

00:25:49.000 You mentioned observational studies.

00:25:50.000 about it seem to increase their... Is it fair to say though you got to be careful

00:25:54.000 about like a single study that comes out you know you want to see it multiple...

00:25:57.000 the test like you want to see the results... Absolutely, in science, absolutely,

00:26:02.000 absolutely. You mentioned observational studies how do those work exactly

00:26:05.000 relative to like a clinical trial? Well a clinical trial is great because you

00:26:09.000 bring people in and you say that okay these people they're gonna get the

00:26:14.000 intervention These people are not.

00:26:17.000 And you kind of, you follow them and you see what happens.

00:26:20.000 I mean, that's the gold standard.

00:26:22.000 Observational studies, you know, you go around this room and you measure, let's say you measure, you know, what's a good one for this room?

00:26:31.000 Sugar consumption.

00:26:33.000 Let's do it.

00:26:35.000 Yeah, okay, so you measure sugar consumption and you have each one of us go out and skateboard, okay?

00:26:42.000 So, you know, I don't know, let's suppose that I don't drink, I don't have much sugar consumption, or energy drink consumption, okay?

00:26:51.000 So you got guys like me who basically don't consume energy drinks.

00:26:56.000 Say one of you guys do and let's say that Tim consumes a lot of energy drinks and then you like you go and see how well we skateboard or we fill some survey that says how well we skateboard and then you conclude that hey look at that you drink more energy drinks you're gonna be a better skateboarder.

00:27:12.000 That's how observational studies work.

00:27:14.000 So they're not, like, taking into account he might have been practicing skateboarding.

00:27:17.000 Right.

00:27:19.000 Or I ate a burrito before handing you this, or he's in a good mood or any of that.

00:27:24.000 And therefore, with that, you have different quality studies.

00:27:27.000 Like, some of them might be better.

00:27:28.000 So I think, you know, with observational studies, you would need substantially more And all you'd really do, it sounds like, is find anomalies.

00:27:35.000 Find things that may be that you'd want to test further.

00:27:38.000 That's exactly right.

00:27:39.000 You have to be very, very careful.

00:27:40.000 Very, very careful.

00:27:41.000 I mean, there's so many examples of misdirection from observational studies.

00:27:48.000 In regards to vitamin D, which we brought up earlier, is there a difference?

00:27:50.000 I've heard there's a difference in endogenous vitamin D and vitamin D that you take, meaning the vitamin D you get your body to produce naturally from like sunlight causing it to happen as opposed to eating a vitamin D vitamin.

00:28:01.000 Is there a difference in the way it biochemically interacts?

00:28:05.000 So, you know, biochemically, not sure.

00:28:09.000 I mean, the process by which they, it's, you know, when your body creates vitamin D versus taking it from a pill, I mean, that is different biologically.

00:28:17.000 But, you know, in terms of things like if you break your wrist or something and it's because you've got, you know, low bone density, whether you take supplemental vitamin D or you get more sunlight, the benefits of the vitamin D to your bones are going to be the same.

00:28:34.000 But there are people who believe that there are differences in the effects from whether it's sunlight or from a pill.

00:28:42.000 I don't know that science well enough.

00:28:43.000 We're gonna do a, like, very hard segue. 0.99

00:28:47.000 They call that jerk. 1.00

00:28:48.000 Let's jerk. 1.00

00:28:48.000 Brace yourselves. 1.00

00:28:50.000 The subject is changing so hard.

00:28:53.000 The next story we have, because I'll just mention this for everybody, we're going to get into way more detail on all of this stuff at TimCast.com, the 11pm members only show, for a variety of reasons, some of them are fairly obvious, but we're going to get into a lot of deep detail, especially with Florida's response and what Florida's doing.

00:29:08.000 And then we've got some other stuff I want to talk about when it comes to medical practices in Florida pertaining to trans kids, but we do have some breaking news that we put off for a little bit.

00:29:17.000 We have this story from Metro News West Virginia.

00:29:20.000 Explosive devices reported at two locations in Bluefield.

00:29:24.000 There were no injuries after the discovery of two explosive devices in Bluefield on Monday morning.

00:29:29.000 West Virginia State Police, the Bluefield Police Department, and other law enforcement responded to a call at the federal courthouse in downtown Bluefield around 9.40 a.m.

00:29:37.000 Officers evacuated all people from the building and an adjacent department building as they dealt with the device.

00:29:42.000 Apparently, they detonated police-yell fire in the hole before a loud boom was heard.

00:29:47.000 It was destroyed around 1140 inside the federal building.

00:29:50.000 An explosion was heard from the building.

00:29:52.000 Another device was found at, I believe it's down here, Westminster Presbyterian Church in Bluefield, West Virginia.

00:29:59.000 Bomb squad has arrived.

00:30:00.000 So, the reason I thought this was, you know, this story caught my eye, and it's not really getting a lot of attention, is someone planted a bomb at a federal courthouse.

00:30:09.000 I mean, we saw in 2020 the riots with the far left.

00:30:12.000 They were attacking the federal courthouse in Portland.

00:30:13.000 And then I saw it was West Virginia, and West Virginia is MAGA country.

00:30:17.000 You know, it's the second most Trump-supporting state in the United States.

00:30:20.000 So I wondered who or why would someone do this?

00:30:24.000 Entirely possible.

00:30:25.000 It's an isolated incident pertaining to local matters, and it's only getting national attention because of the tensions and the conflicts that have been happening at the federal level or with the FBI, for instance.

00:30:34.000 So we don't know for sure.

00:30:37.000 Entirely could be local conflict.

00:30:39.000 Or it could be... I mean... I'll just throw it out to you guys.

00:30:43.000 What political ideology would attack a federal courthouse and a church?

00:30:48.000 Well, I've been on high alert since Dugan's daughter.

00:30:50.000 We might talk about this more later.

00:30:52.000 That's the next one we're getting into.

00:30:53.000 His daughter was killed in a car bomb.

00:30:54.000 So there's this bombing theme in the last five days all of a sudden.

00:30:58.000 I'm very concerned about false flags.

00:30:59.000 This could have been someone from another country that wants to instill agitation in the people's minds.

00:31:07.000 And that it's a church and a courthouse?

00:31:09.000 Two different buildings about a mile apart.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, like you don't have far right religious zealots bombing churches ever, really.

00:31:17.000 I mean, so that doesn't make it doesn't seem like I am very hesitant to start blaming groups or ideologies for this because it could be anybody that wants to see chaos in the United States could be doing stuff.

00:31:29.000 Fog of war man, you're a best man of.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, I remember in the 1970s there were a lot of environmentalist extremists who bombed federal buildings or federal lands.

00:31:40.000 There is a suspect in custody.

00:31:42.000 His name's Dean Fowler.

00:31:43.000 He's 50 years old.

00:31:44.000 I haven't had a chance to look into him too intensely.

00:31:47.000 I mean, there is The instinct, and I hesitate to tie it to any specific group, although it's incredibly disruptive, but there's also a chance someone had something personal.

00:31:59.000 I was saying before the show that I wonder what was on the docket in the courthouse that day, and we looked it up, the church and the federal building are about a mile apart.

00:32:08.000 So there's a question of like why those two places, because Roe v. Wade. 0.85

00:32:14.000 Roe v. Wade.

00:32:14.000 SCOTUS.

00:32:15.000 I mean, there's anything.

00:32:15.000 And a church.

00:32:16.000 Or he knows a lawyer who was practicing and he's mad at the priest down the street.

00:32:19.000 Like, it's very hard to tell without a ton of information.

00:32:23.000 First and foremost, the most important thing.

00:32:26.000 It's a small town in West Virginia, so strong possibility.

00:32:32.000 The priest and his neighbor got into a fight, they have a court hearing for some reason.

00:32:37.000 I don't know, it's a federal court, so that doesn't make sense, actually.

00:32:39.000 There's no reason why a local dispute would go to a federal court.

00:32:43.000 It could be someone from outside the state went to dispute this guy, and he was being sued interstate, so it's federal.

00:32:48.000 It's possible, but I gotta say, the memes I see all right now are Roe v. Wade.

00:32:54.000 The federal courts, the Supreme Court, the federal court of this country, the big one.

00:32:59.000 Why would someone go after a church in a federal court?

00:33:02.000 Simple solution hypothesis, not saying we have any evidence of this, is left-wing.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:07.000 I mean, it's typically not... Well, I don't know.

00:33:11.000 I don't know.

00:33:12.000 It's scary stuff considering the escalation we've seen around the world and the United States.

00:33:16.000 My first thought was when the news broke that it was a federal courthouse, that they were going to start saying it was Trump supporters because of the FBI, because they're going after Trump, and because this judge, this federal judge in Florida, Yeah, I mean, I've read the stories.

00:33:30.000 I don't know if you're familiar with this guy, right?

00:33:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I've read the stories.

00:33:33.000 Yeah, and so I was thinking like maybe this is, you know, like the guy in Ohio,

00:33:38.000 but then they found, okay, and they said, we found one at a church.

00:33:41.000 And I'm like, okay, now that doesn't make sense.

00:33:42.000 Like a Trump supporter is not gonna put a bomb at a church.

00:33:46.000 It's that they donate to the church, you know, if they were gonna do anything.

00:33:49.000 And so then I saw, you know, I saw these memes on Facebook

00:33:52.000 and they're calling it Rovember.

00:33:53.000 They're saying Rovember, Roe v. Wade November.

00:33:56.000 Go out and vote November.

00:33:57.000 Democrats, Roe v. Wade, the federal courts, the churches, the religious people.

00:34:00.000 And I'm wondering if this is just more likely to be at the very least, not saying we have evidence, but left-wing radicalization and attacks.

00:34:09.000 Why would it happen in literal MAGA country though?

00:34:11.000 It's just, it's just weird.

00:34:12.000 I mean, it's a sign of disruption.

00:34:16.000 West Virginia is such an interesting state because it does have such a tie to the Democratic Party.

00:34:20.000 It was a Democratic stronghold for a long, long time.

00:34:23.000 And so I think that native West Virginians, while they are often MAGA supporting, It's a more complex state than people give it credit for because they ultimately like every county in the state went for Trump.

00:34:38.000 I do say like it's very hard to tell I wouldn't be surprised at all if this had left-wing ties and again I would really like to know what was going on in the courthouse today.

00:34:47.000 The church is what's interesting to me because it feels more personal.

00:34:51.000 Again, a mile away, a 20-minute walk, that means that you could have probably... I mean, it's West Virginia.

00:34:55.000 There are probably four other churches within the vicinity.

00:34:57.000 Why the Presbyterian one?

00:34:59.000 Why that one specifically?

00:35:00.000 And again, that goes back to it being specific to that community.

00:35:02.000 You want to look?

00:35:03.000 We can look, yeah.

00:35:04.000 No, I mean, this is the thing I can't reconcile, right?

00:35:06.000 A local dispute with a local church, but a federal courthouse?

00:35:10.000 There wouldn't be a suit at the federal courthouse.

00:35:12.000 Maybe someone at the church ratted out a guy and it's a criminal matter?

00:35:17.000 I honestly don't know.

00:35:18.000 They said that the suspect who's in custody is going to undergo evaluation, so they might be arguing that there's some sort of psychological disturbance.

00:35:26.000 But again, this is a functioning- Anybody who's putting a bomb anywhere is going to have a seat right.

00:35:29.000 A functioning bomb.

00:35:30.000 They had to detonate this.

00:35:31.000 They didn't go in and say like, oh, this doesn't work or it's fake.

00:35:34.000 Like they had to destroy it.

00:35:35.000 Is there knowledge about what the explosive was?

00:35:38.000 Sometimes that can help you discern who did it.

00:35:41.000 They didn't say.

00:35:41.000 I haven't seen anything.

00:35:42.000 But obviously there's a reason why I bring this up.

00:35:46.000 Civil War, right?

00:35:48.000 Is this, you know, how old are you, Joe?

00:35:52.000 Can I ask?

00:35:53.000 I am, you can ask.

00:35:54.000 You don't seem that old.

00:35:57.000 I'm 43 years old.

00:35:58.000 Are you?

00:35:58.000 Okay, you look so much... 79, baby.

00:35:59.000 Are you really?

00:36:00.000 Okay, you look so much...

00:36:01.000 79, baby.

00:36:02.000 What month?

00:36:03.000 When's your birthday?

00:36:04.000 Yeah, you too, dude.

00:36:05.000 What month?

00:36:06.000 I was born in December.

00:36:08.000 Okay, April.

00:36:09.000 I was talking to a guy who was in his 60s and he said that he was just a couple years shy of getting drafted into Vietnam.

00:36:17.000 And then I said, so you saw the news reports about the weather underground?

00:36:19.000 And he's like, oh yeah.

00:36:21.000 And then I was like, is it worse now or was it worse then?

00:36:23.000 He says, way worse now.

00:36:25.000 Can't believe it.

00:36:26.000 That's the media.

00:36:27.000 A lot of it is because of the media.

00:36:28.000 Because one bomb in central West Virginia now is global notoriety, whereas in the 70s it was like, good luck if you read about it in the paper the next day.

00:36:38.000 Maybe.

00:36:39.000 It was more regional.

00:36:40.000 And that could be it.

00:36:41.000 And that's one of the things he pointed out.

00:36:42.000 He said the issue is that everything's instantaneous these days.

00:36:46.000 You know, back then something would happen.

00:36:47.000 It would take a while for people to find out about it and react to it, whether that's an escalation or just generally learning about it.

00:36:54.000 And so I think that's the important point.

00:36:56.000 In the 70s, with Weather Underground, something happens.

00:36:59.000 When did you learn it happened?

00:37:00.000 Right?

00:37:01.000 Three days later, maybe it happens on a Friday, you don't watch the news until Monday, and then the Monday news report comes out, and you're like, huh.

00:37:07.000 Today, it's the moment it happens.

00:37:09.000 The moment this story hit.

00:37:11.000 Like, I'm seeing it.

00:37:12.000 I mean, granted, it's my job.

00:37:13.000 But for people who are on Twitter, you're learning about it right away.

00:37:16.000 I think that actually does mean it's worse, though.

00:37:18.000 You know why?

00:37:20.000 If it took a week, I mean, you go back to the revolutionary period.

00:37:24.000 If it took a month or two months for someone in a different state to find out that someone got shot in a different state, they could not react to it or escalate because they didn't know it happened.

00:37:33.000 But now with social media and with instant communications, the moment it happens, you see a protest, right?

00:37:39.000 Like, you get a video of a dude being beaten by cops, hour later, Black Lives Matter is out on the street protesting.

00:37:45.000 That wouldn't be possible without the internet, without cell phones.

00:37:48.000 Before even when we had cell phones, that wouldn't have happened.

00:37:55.000 It was only after the iPhone made it possible for people to pull up Facebook and see community organizing instantly did we start seeing that kind of phenomenon.

00:38:03.000 So it could be 2007.

00:38:06.000 Some cop beats a guy, protests don't show up until the next day.

00:38:10.000 Because people go home, get on the computer, then learn about it, then show up the next day.

00:38:14.000 Today, mass texts go out.

00:38:18.000 So I'm wondering if our tolerance for violence is going down.

00:38:23.000 And it's not necessarily.

00:38:24.000 I think violence is up, obviously.

00:38:26.000 Murders are way up.

00:38:27.000 But I'm wondering if relative to political conflicts, it's not as much violence that will trigger a civil war, civil conflict, or something like that.

00:38:37.000 It's a very interesting conversation.

00:38:39.000 I think it's... I'm calloused to this stuff.

00:38:41.000 I've become calloused.

00:38:43.000 I see it.

00:38:43.000 It doesn't hurt as bad.

00:38:44.000 I don't immediately believe, that guy's the villain because I think I saw him punch him.

00:38:48.000 Like, I don't know what's going on.

00:38:49.000 But the downside is when you're calloused, you can't really feel.

00:38:52.000 I can't feel it.

00:38:54.000 It's not making me snap to attention, maybe like it should be.

00:38:57.000 The downside is people are going to go nuts faster.

00:39:00.000 The upside is people can mobilize faster if there's a real emergency like some sort of flood or whatever.

00:39:06.000 There are, just to tie this up, 10 churches closer to the courthouse than the Westminster Presbyterian Church, which is actually a little bit farther away.

00:39:16.000 Interesting.

00:39:16.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

00:39:19.000 Sounds like some local drama.

00:39:19.000 No, that's a good point though.

00:39:21.000 But why a federal courthouse?

00:39:22.000 Maybe somebody who works at the courthouse or lives locally?

00:39:25.000 To be disruptive.

00:39:26.000 I mean, I think you're still right that it could be tied to ideology and they know they have access to a federal courthouse in their town.

00:39:34.000 Earlier I pitched like, well, we have to see how far the church is because what if the church is outside?

00:39:38.000 So when you evacuate the building, people come outside and it's even more of a dangerous situation.

00:39:43.000 I think, just to tie it back to what you're saying about the news cycle, I think that these moments that feel like breaking news, you know, for us, because we're watching the news, it is really interesting and for some people they'll remember it.

00:39:58.000 But they won't start to pay attention until there's a pattern, until there's another federal courthouse in another small town in another part of America.

00:40:04.000 And then it will start to seem like, oh, wait, is something going on?

00:40:07.000 And at that point, we really have to ask ourselves, like, are we too late?

00:40:12.000 Are we missing something that's really significant that's going on?

00:40:15.000 One of the mistakes people make is when you hear stories about small rural towns being targeted in this way for whatever this was.

00:40:22.000 They say, well, it's probably not political because why would they come to this small town?

00:40:26.000 And it's like, okay, you know, that's one way to think about it.

00:40:28.000 But we have seen Antifa go to small towns.

00:40:30.000 We have seen riots in small towns.

00:40:32.000 And the idea behind that is, in order to inflict maximum terror, if you're engaged in political violence, you have to go to small towns because people feel safe when they're far away from the cities.

00:40:44.000 If the riots and the attacks are happening in small towns, So that was the logic around why far-left extremists were going to these towns.

00:40:52.000 It's the logic behind why a terrorist would attack a small town to make sure that everyone feels terrified of it.

00:40:58.000 But I don't know.

00:40:58.000 I mean, either way, this looks like terror.

00:41:00.000 It was at a courthouse.

00:41:01.000 I think that instantly qualifies it.

00:41:04.000 A church, possibly.

00:41:06.000 But a church could be... I suppose both could be personal.

00:41:09.000 Like, a guy didn't like an employee at either of these places.

00:41:12.000 But who knows?

00:41:13.000 I'll put it this way.

00:41:14.000 Let's jump to this next segment.

00:41:15.000 We'll just say this.

00:41:16.000 World War 3 is racing Civil War.

00:41:19.000 Because while we're hearing about stories in like West Virginia about bombs, we have this one.

00:41:23.000 A murder in Russia. 0.62

00:41:25.000 I'm sure many of you have already heard.

00:41:27.000 I believe it was Saturday, Saturday evening.

00:41:29.000 Alexander Dugin's daughter was assassinated.

00:41:34.000 in a car bombing.

00:41:35.000 Now, initially, they said it was meant for him.

00:41:37.000 For those that aren't familiar with Dugin, he is a highly influential philosopher, nationalist in Russia.

00:41:43.000 He's been referred to as Putin's brain or his spirit guide or the spirit guide of Ukrainian invasion, all of those things.

00:41:49.000 Well, simultaneously, some have also downplayed his influence in the Russian government.

00:41:53.000 He's not explicitly a member of Putin's inner circle or anything like that.

00:41:56.000 The Atlantic writes about it.

00:41:57.000 Why an assassination in Moscow matters to Ukraine and the West by Tom Nichols.

00:42:01.000 Oh, we love this guy, huh? 0.87

00:42:03.000 He calls him a Russian fascist. 0.91

00:42:05.000 The daughter of a prominent Russian fascist was killed in a car bombing in Moscow.

00:42:09.000 Most Americans have no idea who the Dugin family is, but this event could have serious repercussions in Russia and Ukraine.

00:42:16.000 So, I don't want to jump the gun and say that, um...

00:42:19.000 This is World War III's Franz Ferdinand moment.

00:42:23.000 Franz Ferdinand was a, he was like a royal family guy, right?

00:42:27.000 The Archduke.

00:42:28.000 Yeah, and so when they killed him, like, you pissed off someone's family member, and then they all go to war with

00:42:32.000 each other.

00:42:32.000 This is like an influential guy in Russia's daughter.

00:42:35.000 But then I want to point out, too, the counterpoint there is, while for those reasons it may not be the catalyst for

00:42:41.000 an escalation, we're also in the influence era.

00:42:45.000 We're in the, you know, the influence economy.

00:42:47.000 So it is not necessarily politicians or royal family that have the most influence.

00:42:52.000 Kim Kardashian has more influence than every single politician.

00:42:56.000 And so something Someone who's that influential has more social credit than a politician, something affecting them will matter more.

00:43:05.000 So the way I described it earlier today, if they had killed Dugin, I think the impact would have been substantially less.

00:43:13.000 People in the Russian government would be like, this is horrifying, I can't believe they did this.

00:43:18.000 Instead, they killed Dugin's daughter, whoever did it.

00:43:20.000 It was reported by Russian authorities, CNN repeated the reporting, that they were observing the vehicle and remotely detonated it.

00:43:27.000 They chose to detonate it.

00:43:29.000 It wasn't like she turned the car and it went off.

00:43:30.000 Someone pressed the button.

00:43:32.000 So, presumably, they knew it was her.

00:43:34.000 This is substantially worse.

00:43:37.000 Because Dugan is the man of influence, and now all of that pain that he has will be channeled into the influence he uses, and it will be heard over and over and over again by all of his followers, and his followers that are in the government.

00:43:50.000 So this has now given him a reason to call for more war, more retribution, more anger, and he will drive that to his followers.

00:43:59.000 On its, I don't know, on its face it looks like Ukrainians killed Dugin's daughter as retaliation for the war in Ukraine.

00:44:07.000 But I was reading an article and they were like, ah false, this is a, this is a textbook Russian false flag, could be a textbook Russian false flag operation.

00:44:14.000 And then I started picturing like a conversation between Dugin and Putin and Dugin's like, I would give everything for this country, Vladimir, everything!

00:44:21.000 And Vladimir's like, you would give everything?

00:44:22.000 And he's like, yeah, I would. 0.95

00:44:25.000 And then Putin's like, all right, well, then I'll kill his daughter, because he just, he, and I don't even feel guilty about it, because he already said he'd sacrifice everything for it, so. 0.53

00:44:32.000 Reportedly, he has said things about sacrificing everything for the cause and things like that, but to this extent, I would just say, It is the simple solution that they blew up his car, and it was the wrong person. 0.75

00:44:46.000 It's the simple solution that this guy is a nationalist, powerful influencer, and they wanted him gone.

00:44:52.000 I mean, he's an influential guy.

00:44:54.000 I mean, people in the West have interviewed him.

00:44:56.000 His ideas have spread all across Europe.

00:44:59.000 Not saying they're completely dominant across Europe, but a lot of people have listened to this guy.

00:45:04.000 And if you take a look at the expansion of right-wing nationalism across Europe, Well, there are certainly many people who don't like nationalism, or the right, who would look at him as one of the key components of pushing those ideas.

00:45:18.000 So, Occam's razor would suggest, in the absence of evidence, the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions, that's it.

00:45:26.000 Anti-internationalist forces, probably Ukrainian, targeted him in Moscow.

00:45:35.000 Killed his daughter.

00:45:35.000 I'll put it this way too.

00:45:37.000 The reason it's simple solution that it's Ukraine.

00:45:39.000 I'm not trying to blame them to call them any names or anything, but to point out it's probably them.

00:45:45.000 When you are the weaker fighting force, typically you see these groups engage in more terroristic activities and targeted assassinations and things like things like this, because it's the best they could do in the conflict.

00:45:56.000 For Russia, they're looking at a conventional war.

00:45:59.000 You go in, send in the tanks, send in the troops, drop the bombs.

00:46:03.000 For Ukraine, which is, I think, like the poorest country in Europe, and it's like the only country to get poor after the fall of Soviet Union, they're thinking, we have to do whatever it takes, and we don't have much capabilities.

00:46:15.000 Guerrilla warfare it is.

00:46:16.000 Hit them in Moscow. 0.88

00:46:18.000 That seems to make more sense.

00:46:19.000 It's the simplest solution for sure, but in war propaganda, they will use the simplest solution against you to make you think that that's what it is.

00:46:26.000 I think if they had assassinated Dugan outright they would have risked a more serious retribution from Putin.

00:46:34.000 I disagree.

00:46:35.000 Well my thought here is that his daughter, Dugan's daughter, was involved in his influence and she was also seen like not on the international level that she was but within the country she is an advocate for his policies of belief so in some way they are maybe Effectively hurting the morale of the Russian people by targeting, by choosing to detonate the car when she was in it as opposed to him, while still being able to like say it wasn't quite as aggressive as outright detonating, you know, this person who has tremendous influence in a relationship with the nation's president.

00:47:09.000 The one thing that I would say that is a counterpoint that suggests it may actually be a false flag, or, you know, Russians doing this, because we actually have a story here.

00:47:16.000 I mean, let me pull this up from Daily Mail.

00:47:18.000 Car bomb attack on Putin's Rasputin, who Vladimir deemed uncontrollable, has all the hallmarks of a Russian GRU execution because military spy group often include a target's family.

00:47:28.000 I don't see why they would go after Dugin, they're saying, because the Kremlin deemed him unruly.

00:47:34.000 The one thing I would say that makes me think it could be a false flag, although I don't think it is, Getting his daughter was the worst possible thing you can do in terms of escalation.

00:47:44.000 So to disagree with you a bit, Dugan's voice would be lost if he died.

00:47:49.000 If your goal was to amplify his message of nationalism, and get a martyr, you'd go after his daughter.

00:47:57.000 Because now you've got a martyr, someone who holds the same ideas as him,

00:48:00.000 who speaks the same ideas, who is considered by the West a propagandist,

00:48:04.000 who is considered by Russia as a journalist.

00:48:07.000 You get your martyr, you keep Dugin's voice.

00:48:11.000 You amplify Dugin's voice with a major story about how he's now a victim targeted by the excesses of the West.

00:48:19.000 Now you've exemplified his message, amplified his message, and created a martyr all at the same time.

00:48:24.000 It's the worst possible thing for escalation.

00:48:26.000 Well, unless you're Putin and you want to get the Russian people excited about attacking Ukraine, because if they think... That's exactly what I'm saying.

00:48:35.000 I don't think it's true.

00:48:35.000 Look, I'm seeing a lot of these Democrats, they're like, he killed his own daughter.

00:48:38.000 And I'm like, that's nuts. 0.97

00:48:40.000 That's crisis actor level conspiracy nonsense.

00:48:43.000 Sorry, dude.

00:48:44.000 Unless you can come out and show me a video of him planting the bomb or whatever, I'm not going to believe he killed his own daughter. 0.95

00:48:49.000 That's insane.

00:48:50.000 I'm picturing Putin going to Alexander and being like, I'm so sorry about your daughter and then making full eye contact and Alexander knowing that Putin killed her and just look at Adam like, thank you, sir.

00:49:00.000 And they both know.

00:49:01.000 It's just too Hollywood to me.

00:49:04.000 Exactly.

00:49:04.000 I don't think that that's realistic.

00:49:07.000 I think in some ways we believe that Vladimir Putin, and for good reason, is like an intense leader who has committed crimes that like the West finds horrifying.

00:49:19.000 But I don't think that There would be any benefit, especially if we already think this guy is unruly, then like being like, and then I killed your daughter, like, they deemed him unruly, how do we know he's not gonna flip and be like, I hate Putin now, you know what I mean?

00:49:31.000 Like, it doesn't do anything for Putin to try and antagonize or play with a variable that isn't dependable, if they really do believe he's unruly.

00:49:40.000 I think that I mean, to me, the most straightforward answer is, like, this was an attempted assassination.

00:49:47.000 I haven't read enough to know where Dugan was in relation to the car.

00:49:51.000 Was he even there?

00:49:53.000 To me, it makes more sense that they are trying to both be aggressive and also passive-aggressive at the same time, and they see taking out his daughter as an aggressive move while still being able to say, well, we're not the aggressors in this war.

00:50:07.000 So to your point, Ian, you're saying, you know, it's like you're imagining Putin looking me in the eyes, and it's very Hollywood-esque.

00:50:12.000 My counterpoint to that would be, The reality is likely some fat middle-aged Ukrainian dude with a couple bombs like waddling over to the car and then like slapping it with duct tape and then walking away and then waiting for it again and then pressing a button and going oh and like running away like scraggly dudes no like I'm not imagining you know spetsnaz like commandos like going in and like the earpieces and they're like do it and then it's probably it's probably it's roguish it's guerrilla stuff it's probably like hobo looking dudes you know who are angry who are zealous and 0.94

00:50:44.000 Probably Ukrainian. 0.91

00:50:45.000 And there are a fair number of Ukrainians who have gone to Russia since the start of the war.

00:50:50.000 So there is a Ukrainian population within the country.

00:50:53.000 I mean, I assume some are there because they want to be and some are there maybe because they had to go.

00:50:59.000 But Russia is not insulated from having Ukrainian actors be within its boundaries. 0.56

00:51:06.000 I don't, I will not decide.

00:51:08.000 I don't even like the word probable now because war fog is so, it's ripe for disillusionment and you want to trick people and you want to create that.

00:51:18.000 So the most obvious answer a lot of times in war is not the right answer.

00:51:22.000 The open field that looks like the best path is probably the kill zone.

00:51:26.000 So you don't want to go through it kind of thing.

00:51:29.000 And I'm gonna wait and see if they use this as a reason to go harder in Ukraine, then that's like, well... Russia is saying Ukraine did it.

00:51:36.000 Of course.

00:51:37.000 Someone just super chatted, in the pale moonlight, Tim.

00:51:40.000 You guys know what that's a reference to?

00:51:41.000 No?

00:51:42.000 No Star Trek fans?

00:51:43.000 For shame.

00:51:45.000 Deep Space Nine.

00:51:47.000 In the pale moonlight.

00:51:48.000 Brilliant television.

00:51:49.000 Spoiler alert.

00:51:50.000 Spoiler alert.

00:51:51.000 It's like a 30 year old show, but I'm gonna spoil it for you.

00:51:54.000 Benjamin Sisko is the commander of an outpost for the Federation, the Star Trek.

00:51:59.000 A war breaks out.

00:52:01.000 The Federation, which is the main characters, are being defeated by... they're slowly being pushed back, and they're losing the war to the Dominion.

00:52:09.000 There's another race called the Romulans, and they're typically... there's an armistice between the Federation and the Romulans.

00:52:16.000 They hate each other.

00:52:18.000 They go to them and say, you have to join the war on our side.

00:52:22.000 Otherwise, after we're defeated, the Dominion will come and crush you.

00:52:26.000 And they're like, no, they won't.

00:52:28.000 And we don't care.

00:52:29.000 We can handle ourselves.

00:52:31.000 So the commander stages a false flag where he blows up a senator in a spaceship and plants evidence to make it seem, I could be getting this wrong, but something like this, makes it seem like the Dominion did it, forcing the Romulans to join the war on the side of the Federation.

00:52:46.000 Now that we've gotten the fictional fun writing out of the way, there's a very real possibility that the goal here was a false flag and it was to rally the Russian people saying, look, they killed this young woman.

00:52:58.000 She was 29 years old.

00:52:59.000 They're targeting our children.

00:53:00.000 This is horrible.

00:53:01.000 We need your support in this war.

00:53:04.000 And depending on what you read, Western propaganda says Ukraine's winning.

00:53:09.000 Eastern propaganda says Ukraine's losing.

00:53:12.000 Who knows, man?

00:53:12.000 It's such a war.

00:53:13.000 It's an emotional assassination.

00:53:15.000 That was not a tactical assassination.

00:53:16.000 That didn't take out a leader or military command or anything.

00:53:19.000 And car bombs are crude.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, super, super crude and a lot of collateral damage.

00:53:24.000 It was not a surgical maneuver.

00:53:28.000 Well, I'm shocked that they would claim that anyone has done it, that they would deign to act like they know who did it.

00:53:34.000 And if they do know who did it, how do they know who did it?

00:53:38.000 I wanna know.

00:53:39.000 It doesn't matter.

00:53:40.000 And that's ultimately what it comes down to.

00:53:41.000 It doesn't matter who did.

00:53:42.000 You know why?

00:53:43.000 Because in the East, they're gonna say, in Russia, in China, they're gonna say it was the Ukrainians, it was NATO.

00:53:51.000 In the West, they're posting all over Twitter that it was a false flag, that Dugin killed his own daughter, because they have to.

00:53:58.000 Because both sides have to- There's a narrative they have to keep up.

00:54:01.000 Yup.

00:54:02.000 And in the end, we'll just be left wondering what actually happened.

00:54:05.000 The good news is, whoever wins will tell us.

00:54:08.000 For sure, honestly.

00:54:09.000 They'll give us the whole story.

00:54:11.000 They'll write the history for us, the history books, and then they'll let us read them.

00:54:14.000 With all the details, don't even worry about it.

00:54:16.000 Do you think that the Russians are going to just end up taking the eastern part of Ukraine, get access to the Red Sea, and then it'll be over? 0.51

00:54:23.000 I don't know.

00:54:24.000 I mean, I think I agree that the part that is interesting, wouldn't it be nice to actually know what happened?

00:54:27.000 Yes.

00:54:28.000 And not, of course, it doesn't even end with this, right?

00:54:29.000 opinions on Russia and Ukraine.

00:54:32.000 I mean, I think I agree that the part that is interesting, wouldn't it be nice to actually know what happened?

00:54:39.000 Yes.

00:54:40.000 It would be nice to know.

00:54:41.000 And not, of course, it doesn't even end with this, right?

00:54:43.000 There's so many examples in history where it's still unclear what exactly happened, who gained,

00:54:50.000 who lost, who was behind, sort of who was pulling the strings to create a series of events.

00:55:00.000 It certainly does have the feel of that, that, you know, not an accident.

00:55:04.000 I mean, it could have been, and I agree that that's sort of the simplest answer, you know, Occam's razor.

00:55:10.000 But, boy, it seems awfully dastardly to just have a simple explanation.

00:55:16.000 Let's jump to another hard segue and jump back to the medical stuff.

00:55:21.000 It was a bit tough, I'll just, you know, as an aside, because we've got, you know, obviously big stories with Fauci's resignation, but also the war, and they're, like, very distinct, and so, like, trying to segue between them is not really possible.

00:55:35.000 But we'll jump to this one from the post-millennial.

00:55:38.000 Seattle Children's Hospital offers medicalized gender transition to nine-year-olds.

00:55:43.000 Quote, we accept new patients ages 9 to 16, the site reads, patients ages 17 and older, and patients who have not yet started puberty will be directed to community resources.

00:55:53.000 This is part of a long-standing story.

00:55:55.000 A long chain of stories.

00:55:56.000 Boston Children's Hospital.

00:55:59.000 Big controversy surrounding that.

00:56:00.000 The media claiming there's threats going their way.

00:56:03.000 You've got, I think now, a hospital in Chicago performing these transitions for minors.

00:56:08.000 And now we have the latest story from Post Millennial that Seattle is doing the same thing.

00:56:12.000 I know that...

00:56:13.000 There was recently a board review in Florida.

00:56:16.000 The medical board did a review of sex change operations for children and medical and other transitions.

00:56:24.000 I should probably just throw it to you, Joe.

00:56:26.000 You probably know better.

00:56:28.000 What's going on with Florida as it pertains to child gender transition?

00:56:34.000 Well, you know, Florida is taking an unequivocal stand that is just there with the data.

00:56:40.000 It's not very dissimilar.

00:56:42.000 It's actually worse in terms of evidence.

00:56:44.000 You know, we had the mass discussion previously.

00:56:47.000 At least a study showed, you know, a reduction from 12% to 11%, which is a 10% reduction.

00:56:53.000 I mean, if you really think that that's enough to force people to do things, you know, we can have a conversation about that.

00:57:00.000 But in this case, the data, you know, the data are even, they're just, they're incredibly weak.

00:57:06.000 I mean, there's basically, and it speaks to dishonesty.

00:57:10.000 So the CDC quotes that extremely unimpressive mask study and says, oh, this shows that you can actually reduce community transmission.

00:57:22.000 And so, you know, which, like, to someone who looked at it, they would say, that doesn't make sense.

00:57:29.000 In this case, it's the same thing.

00:57:31.000 The data, you know, people, advocates say that, oh, this is the standard of care and it helps people, you know, it makes them less likely to commit suicide and things like that.

00:57:42.000 But the data actually don't show that at all.

00:57:45.000 So for, we did a members only segment where we read detransitioner statements.

00:57:53.000 And there were a lot of teenage women, because I think it's like overwhelmingly teenage girls who are getting these surgeries, double mastectomies and things like that. 0.97

00:58:01.000 At least there was actually one study from the NIH we pulled up showing that 90% of what they reviewed were double mastectomies on females.

00:58:10.000 And the average age I think was like 15 or something like that.

00:58:13.000 So we read these stories where they're suicidal.

00:58:17.000 It's horrifying.

00:58:18.000 Go ahead.

00:58:19.000 No, no, no.

00:58:20.000 I mean, like the idea here is, I think there's something happening.

00:58:24.000 I do.

00:58:24.000 I think gender dysphoria is real.

00:58:26.000 I think there are kids who are transgender.

00:58:28.000 And I think we have to pay attention to, there was one article I read last week from Psychology Today.

00:58:35.000 A PhD researcher saying, we know that phthalates and PCBs are hormone disruptors.

00:58:42.000 He cited a study showing that certain birth control had a masculinizing effect on female fetuses, on their brains, and it resulted in women who preferred the company of women and did not prefer child-rearing and things like that.

00:58:57.000 And so that point was, there's an environmental factor coming from the chemicals and the pharmaceuticals we use that is likely contributing to this.

00:59:05.000 I think that's true.

00:59:06.000 I mean, I think even Alex Jones has pointed that out.

00:59:08.000 He was mocked for it when he talked about atrazine.

00:59:10.000 And so I think the result there is, okay, we need to figure that out.

00:59:14.000 Stop that.

00:59:14.000 But this does mean there are going to be trans kids.

00:59:17.000 And how do we effectively solve for this problem?

00:59:19.000 How do we make sure these kids are going to be happy, healthy, not suicidal?

00:59:23.000 And the issue seems to be The accepted medical treatment across the country in the United States is at odds with what Europe is now doing, with the Scandinavian countries who have rejected all of this stuff.

00:59:32.000 And the end result for a lot of these people, I'm not saying all of them, we're seeing them post online saying after undergoing these surgeries and these medical treatments, they are worse than they were before.

00:59:44.000 That's a scary outcome.

00:59:45.000 And we want to prevent that.

00:59:46.000 We want to make sure that kids who are suffering from dysphoria or whatever the issue may be, hormone disruptors, be it the case, how do we help them when you've got these extreme policies that are all going in one way and ignoring the science that we can see in other places?

01:00:01.000 No, it's a great summary.

01:00:03.000 And you're absolutely right.

01:00:04.000 There are definitely boys who feel like they're girls, girls who feel like they're boys.

01:00:10.000 There's nothing new there.

01:00:13.000 But that's a different, and I agree with you, right?

01:00:15.000 Understanding.

01:00:15.000 Trying to do what we can to understand why that is.

01:00:18.000 That's an important goal.

01:00:19.000 But that is a different issue than what to do about in terms of medical or surgical therapies and standards of professional care.

01:00:29.000 And that's the issue that Florida is focused on.

01:00:33.000 And standards of professional care, you know, it's just, I've actually, I mean, I, you know, COVID before this, like I was a mainstream doctor, researcher, very mainstream, right?

01:00:45.000 I, you know, I, Like, and I did, you know, fortunately I did well, but I was, there was nothing controversial about me.

01:00:53.000 And since COVID, it's just opened my eyes to examples of medical organizations, just completely misleading people.

01:01:01.000 And essentially in some cases lying.

01:01:04.000 In this particular case, At the end of the day, you have experimental therapies, right, that are not vitamin D. Like, these are serious.

01:01:15.000 And real quick, not FDA approved treatments for these kids.

01:01:19.000 I'm not sure that, I mean, I don't know that the FDA authorizes medical therapies.

01:01:24.000 They certainly authorize drugs and devices, but I don't think that they authorize medical therapies.

01:01:28.000 My understanding is, correct me if I'm wrong, I think you know this, Lupron is not FDA approved.

01:01:32.000 It's off-label use as a puberty blocker.

01:01:35.000 That's what I have heard.

01:01:36.000 I don't know if I'm correct there.

01:01:39.000 I believe that's correct.

01:01:40.000 My point is, this is really fun to point out.

01:01:45.000 Lupron is... Someone want to check that real quick?

01:01:49.000 I want to make sure we get this right.

01:01:50.000 Because my understanding is it is an off-label use as a puberty blocker in kids.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, off-label is not actually... That's not a big deal.

01:01:57.000 Doctors can prescribe things off-label and they do it all the time.

01:02:01.000 Except there are some things you can't.

01:02:02.000 What does off-label mean?

01:02:04.000 Well, off-label means that, you know, the FDA, when they approve a drug, they approve it for specific indications.

01:02:13.000 If a drug company wants to expand the indications, you know, they have to provide data, give it to the FDA, and the FDA has to approve it for that new indication.

01:02:24.000 So that's how that works.

01:02:26.000 It's off-label.

01:02:26.000 So my point here is, And without mentioning any other treatments other than this, because, you know, my point is, there are mainstream narratives that if you mention off-label use on some drugs, you're a dangerous conspiracy theorist.

01:02:42.000 Meanwhile, the narrative from the establishment is to actively promote this particular off-label use, which we are seeing ramifications of, and they're kind of devastating for a lot of these kids.

01:02:52.000 So, ultimately, I think, you mentioned it, the hypocrisy, the lies and all that, it's all here.

01:02:58.000 My question is, what is Florida doing differently?

01:03:01.000 And so I guess I wanted to get this very much at the beginning.

01:03:05.000 I watched the live stream where the medical board was discussing this.

01:03:08.000 What ended up happening with that?

01:03:10.000 Well, the medical board basically, you know, their task that day was to decide whether they were going to take on the issue.

01:03:18.000 Because right now, essentially, it's an unregulated space, right?

01:03:21.000 You've got different centers, you know, who are, there you go, Seattle Children's Hospital, nine years old, right?

01:03:27.000 Some hospitals, they may not see patients until they're 14 or 15.

01:03:31.000 Some refuse to do surgery or say they're not going to do surgery unless they're at least 18.

01:03:38.000 So different practices at different places.

01:03:41.000 And the Board of Medicine in Florida said that they were going to look at that.

01:03:45.000 And the goal really, in my opinion, should be that they stop these therapies.

01:03:52.000 in children who are under 18 unless there's evidence.

01:03:57.000 And I'll just say really quickly, right, people make things so complicated and confusing.

01:04:01.000 At the end of the day, right, you've got high-risk procedures, right,

01:04:05.000 puberty blockers when the brain is developing at a young age, sex change operations,

01:04:11.000 mastectomies, the risk of infertility, sterility.

01:04:14.000 High risk, not vitamin D, not other off-label drugs.

01:04:18.000 And you've got uncertain benefit.

01:04:21.000 Like no one knows, people will tell you with a straight face that they know it's gonna help.

01:04:25.000 They don't know that.

01:04:26.000 Not just that, we have 37,000, almost 40,000 people on a forum, D-Trans,

01:04:32.000 where there are prominent posts every day of people saying they are suicidal now.

01:04:39.000 I don't want these people to feel that way I want them to be happy and healthy and we got to figure out how to help them and this certainly is not resulting in that Well, there was a woman who spoke at the Florida Board of Medicine during the public comment section.

01:04:51.000 Her name was, I think, Sophia Galvin, and she specifically talked about her experience, like, as a minor being encouraged, not, I don't want to say encouraged, but she was, when she decided that she wanted to transition, her school was supportive.

01:05:05.000 She was the president of their LGBT community.

01:05:08.000 She was encouraged to undergo a mastectomy.

01:05:10.000 She went on years of testosterone and was not happy or afterwards and through spiritual and personal growth ultimately decided to de-transition and is now a really strong advocate against this.

01:05:21.000 I thought her testimony there was really powerful.

01:05:24.000 I think you're totally right.

01:05:26.000 I mean it was interesting to me That when it was, I think, the American Academy of Pediatrics decided to sort of block the issue.

01:05:34.000 They had doctors saying that they wanted to talk about it and they suppressed the motion.

01:05:38.000 All of the doctors there were pointing to studies from Europe that were like, look, I think it's Finland just went back to saying the first treatment for minors who are experiencing gender dysphoria is to go through psychotherapy.

01:05:50.000 It's not to intervene medically.

01:05:52.000 There's a tremendous amount of gaslighting.

01:05:55.000 Sweden this year released, they've been doing this for years, longer than we have in the United States, these gender transition therapies.

01:06:02.000 They released their equivalent of sort of the NIH released a new guidance this year and they said they're not going to do it anymore for children because they just didn't know whether they were doing more harm than good.

01:06:15.000 They literally said that, but you have doctors and some in Florida who say that, no, we know better and we're helping every patient that we see who undergoes this.

01:06:26.000 I think, have you read about endocrine disruptors and hormone disruptors?

01:06:31.000 Sure.

01:06:31.000 I'm assuming you have.

01:06:32.000 Yeah.

01:06:32.000 There was one article that I read that kind of went viral.

01:06:36.000 Mentioning I mentioned it earlier.

01:06:38.000 There was a birth control women would take it and in the rare chance taking it. 1.00

01:06:42.000 They still got pregnant It was having a masculinizing effect on on their fetuses. 1.00

01:06:45.000 And if it was a female, you know, it was it was causing issues I think when you look at the the great words of Alex Jones, they're turning the freaking frogs gay and But to get more specific and not play the silly game, he was talking about, I think it's a pesticide called Atrazine, we've talked about this before.

01:07:02.000 There was a study, this was like 10 years ago I think, showing that it was interfering with the endocrine systems of frogs, turning ovaries into testes, testes into ovaries, causing population collapse. 0.65

01:07:14.000 And Alex pointed that out.

01:07:16.000 I see stories like that, and I'm like, yeah, we've long known that there are, like, hormones in our drinking water in cities, and plastics are leeching into our water, or, you know, some people have argued that soy is doing these things, although I'm not sure that's correct.

01:07:30.000 But okay, there's probably serious hormones and hormone disruptors being consumed and affecting kids who are developing.

01:07:37.000 So when Bill Maher says, they're in California, they're not in Ohio, either we're shaming them or creating them, I'm like, the argument from Bill misses a big picture there.

01:07:48.000 I mean, it's a fair point.

01:07:50.000 He's like, how come in Ohio there's not a lot of trans kids in California?

01:07:52.000 There is.

01:07:53.000 It sounds like he's making the point that it's trendy in California, and it probably is.

01:07:57.000 But my point here is, it could be that California uses specific chemicals in agriculture that Ohio doesn't, and it is causing these children to become, you know, have hormonal imbalance or disruption in utero, which results in trans kids. 0.90

01:08:14.000 That's something we absolutely need to talk about considering the science is there to show that's a possibility.

01:08:18.000 So, that being said, I think what we're seeing is a mix.

01:08:22.000 I think we're probably seeing a natural phenomenon of people who are transgender.

01:08:26.000 I think it probably naturally exists in humans, to some degree.

01:08:29.000 I think we're seeing a large uptick in trans kids, probably because of the pesticides, the chemicals, the pharmaceuticals, as these other studies have pointed out. 1.00

01:08:37.000 And I also think we're seeing social trends, which affect some kids.

01:08:40.000 So the problem is if you approach this with a one-size-fits-all, start with the surgery, then you're going to wrap up kids who do not need this and create suicidal teenagers.

01:08:51.000 We probably need to approach this and figure out what is the underlying cause of the gender dysphoria in this child.

01:08:56.000 Is it a social issue or is it a naturally, you know, a developmental issue?

01:09:00.000 I hear you, and I think that it's definitely an interesting scientific question, but I think it's probably not the priority.

01:09:11.000 I hear your example.

01:09:13.000 You know, the problem is, right?

01:09:16.000 You look at and I totally agree with you frankly, you know, I mean we try and eat organic as much as possible But it's it's really sad how much junk like poison really in terms of some of the pesticides and some of them are hormone disrupting and some of them increase the risk of cancer that get into food and then you've got you know, their financial interest to try and maintain a The use of these chemicals but you look at Europe and my understanding is that they don't use they don't nearly use nearly the type of the intensity of pesticides that we use and they have also seen in some areas the same explosive growth in terms particularly in girls who feel like they should be boys. 0.95

01:09:56.000 So, you know, I hear you and I think that area is important, but I don't think that's what, you know, that's not what the focus ought to be.

01:10:06.000 You think it's social impact?

01:10:09.000 I think it's likely that there's a substantial social component and it's, you know, the curves in terms of the growth, it's just not really consistent with, like for example, one of the things that's been noticed is that the age of puberty was changing, right?

01:10:25.000 It was getting lower for different age groups and that was a sort of a gradual process and that's kind of how biological processes tend to be, right?

01:10:33.000 They're sort of gradual.

01:10:34.000 This has not been gradual.

01:10:36.000 This has been explosive.

01:10:38.000 And that argues less for a biological mechanism and at least, you know, substantial part of the growth.

01:10:44.000 But it could be that there's a critical mass of phthalates.

01:10:48.000 Phthalates are like pesticides.

01:10:50.000 We've somehow reached a critical mass.

01:10:52.000 We're like, you can eat salt, but if you get too much salt, it will kill you.

01:10:55.000 Like you can't do over salt will destroy your body.

01:10:57.000 So like if the now the levels of phthalates are, we just hit the ceiling of what we can handle.

01:11:05.000 I'm not trying to prescribe a treatment based on the idea.

01:11:08.000 What I'm simply trying to say is that, for one, I oppose sex changes for kids. 0.92

01:11:14.000 I think you've got to be 18 before you start doing this stuff.

01:11:17.000 There is a question about, you know, the limits on when government can intervene to stop parents from engaging in certain medical treatments.

01:11:24.000 But at a certain point, you know, I'm just like values over where, you know, My values are we don't give kids sex change surgeries.

01:11:33.000 That's where it is for me, for whatever reason.

01:11:35.000 But my point is, there's likely a natural phenomenon of causing gender dysphoria. 0.71

01:11:41.000 Now, I'm not saying we should be giving kids sex change surgeries because of it.

01:11:44.000 We clearly look at the Scandinavian countries, they're not doing that anymore.

01:11:47.000 But I think the issue of the social factor is also obviously playing a role, whether it's, you know, you're saying it's explosive, so that's likely the case.

01:11:56.000 Either way, that's evidence enough that we should not be doing this to kids.

01:11:59.000 To Ian's point, I think it's entirely possible there's a combination of, we were seeing hormone disruptors in our food supply, plastics or whatever, increasing, but also serious social discouragement from anyone mentioning it.

01:12:15.000 So it could be.

01:12:16.000 You know, the left says there's always been trans people, and the reason there's a massive explosion of them is because now it's finally okay for them to speak up.

01:12:23.000 It's like, it could actually be both.

01:12:26.000 It could be that in the past 10 years, past 20 years, we've massively increased the amount of PCBs, phthalates, what is it, polychloride something?

01:12:33.000 I don't know.

01:12:34.000 We've dramatically increased certain hormones, pharmaceuticals, plastics, and other things

01:12:39.000 into our food supply that is, they're hormone disruptors.

01:12:42.000 But the people who grew up experiencing that didn't say anything because it was not socially

01:12:45.000 acceptable now that it is.

01:12:47.000 All of a sudden now there's a perception that among the left it's only happening because

01:12:51.000 it's acceptable.

01:12:52.000 These are PCBs or polychlorinated biphenyls.

01:12:54.000 There you go, the biphenyls.

01:12:56.000 I mean for me some of this just makes me have more questions about like reproduction and

01:13:00.000 human fertility because if we do believe there's a genetic link or an environmental disruption

01:13:06.000 that occurs, where does it come from?

01:13:09.000 Is it because you have moms like a generation of moms who've been on birth control for longer and that disrupts their hormones which disrupts how their fetus I mean I don't know anything about medical science so this is all speculation on my part.

01:13:21.000 I defer to the doctor but I wonder if Ultimately, we just don't know what causes any of these issues because we are not studying it holistically.

01:13:33.000 Like, we are looking at it as social intervention when they reach school, but what if this is something that has to do with mom's nutrition?

01:13:39.000 Yeah, and you know what?

01:13:40.000 I'm gonna backpedal a little bit.

01:13:42.000 So, what you said earlier resonates with me in terms of, you know, in terms of attention on studying it.

01:13:49.000 And I'll tell you that, just to your point, one of the problems, right, with these hot-button issues is that it becomes taboo to even ask the questions, right?

01:13:59.000 And that's a problem.

01:14:01.000 Yep.

01:14:02.000 Looking at what I do know is that pharmaceutical companies are administering for-profit surgeries and chemicals in reaction to whatever is happening.

01:14:10.000 That's very apparent to me.

01:14:11.000 For-profit medical industry.

01:14:13.000 There's no incentive to not encourage it.

01:14:15.000 If you have kids that you're treating for more and more things, plus when you go on hormones, there are side effects, you take more medication.

01:14:20.000 I mean, like, this becomes a mass industry in and of itself.

01:14:23.000 Why would you discourage it if you are a pharmaceutical person?

01:14:25.000 Not to be too conspiratorial.

01:14:27.000 Oh, there's no conspiracy about pharmaceutical companies pursuing profit over everything else.

01:14:32.000 It is well documented.

01:14:34.000 We've heard it from a doctor.

01:14:35.000 Well, we pointed out there's an article about Goldman Sachs.

01:14:39.000 They said they were advising pharmaceutical companies.

01:14:41.000 I think, I could be wrong because we don't have the article pulled up, but they were saying curing diseases is not a long-term, you know, financial gain for us.

01:14:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that like you're better off just treating the symptoms and letting people stay sick, which is just so horrifying.

01:14:55.000 Yeah.

01:14:56.000 Well, it's like, I don't want to call them medical companies anymore.

01:14:59.000 I want to call it because the real medicine, in my opinion, is food.

01:15:02.000 Like if you're eating the right diet, you know, that's what Hippocrates said, the first doctor, let food be thy medicine.

01:15:07.000 Let me ask you this.

01:15:10.000 Why do you think it is that testosterone levels are dropping so significantly in the male population?

01:15:18.000 Yeah, and it's true, right?

01:15:20.000 First of all, that's been documented.

01:15:25.000 This might be a good time to mention, by the way, that there was a study that came out in a good journal about reproductive health and hormones that followed some men after they underwent COVID-19 vaccination with one of the mRNA vaccines.

01:15:43.000 And that was followed by a decrease in sperm count and in sperm motility.

01:15:51.000 And it didn't fully...

01:15:52.000 They said temporary.

01:15:53.000 It didn't.

01:15:54.000 So that was really nice wording.

01:15:56.000 If you looked at the table, and this is, again, this is like my space, right?

01:16:00.000 And the space of a lot of my colleagues that I work with.

01:16:04.000 So if you pull up that study that was published a few months ago, and you look at the table,

01:16:09.000 doesn't look fully temporary.

01:16:12.000 So, the levels at, I can't remember whether it was 12 weeks afterward, the measures are still lower than baseline and at least one of the cells in the, one of the areas in the table was substantially lower than baseline.

01:16:28.000 So anyway, I digress.

01:16:30.000 I will just, I'll state, just because we segment, we create segments, so previous statements won't be heard in this one.

01:16:38.000 We've got to be careful about single studies.

01:16:41.000 When one study comes out and shows something, you need way more than that before you can draw heavy conclusions as to what they mean, correct?

01:16:47.000 Well, you do need to be careful.

01:16:50.000 In this particular study, it seemed like it was done well.

01:16:54.000 There was another study that was done earlier in the pandemic.

01:16:59.000 They concluded that there wasn't a difference in sperm function or sperm count.

01:17:04.000 So, that's true.

01:17:06.000 Ultimately, the truth is one of those studies is accurate.

01:17:11.000 I think from what I've seen, there probably is a decrement in the activity and the counts of the sperms.

01:17:20.000 Coming back to your point, in terms of these testosterone, So that fits the pattern of something that isn't environmental, some environmental exposure.

01:17:32.000 And we have a lot of them.

01:17:34.000 So, you know, why is it?

01:17:35.000 I don't know, but it does fit the pattern of, you know, a sort of non-natural phenomenon.

01:17:41.000 But, you know, could it be social?

01:17:45.000 So, uh, men aren't chopping lumber anymore.

01:17:47.000 I mean, physical exercise increases testosterone, right?

01:17:52.000 It, I do believe it does, but more in older men.

01:17:56.000 Really?

01:17:56.000 I'm not sure about, I'm not sure if it increases testosterone, if it's related to testosterone levels in younger men.

01:18:02.000 I'm not sure.

01:18:03.000 What about hunching over, staring at a computer screen, drinking Pepsi?

01:18:07.000 12 hours a day.

01:18:07.000 You know, you joke around, but guys, that's actually, I mean, that's a legitimate question, right?

01:18:14.000 I mean, you know, to give one example, I don't know if this is correct, but If this is true, but some, you know, I've read, for example, that the increase in people with nearsightedness is related to, you know, the fact that we are looking at screens more and kind of doing close stuff instead of looking things further away or hunting or whatever.

01:18:34.000 So, no, I don't, I mean, it's funny, but something real is happening.

01:18:39.000 Those testosterone levels are substantially lower than they were in the past.

01:18:42.000 Have you seen the infamous Try Guys video?

01:18:45.000 Which infamous one?

01:18:47.000 I don't know which.

01:18:47.000 Where they get their testosterone tested?

01:18:49.000 Yeah, they get their testosterone levels checked and they have the testosterone, they're like, how old are they in their 20s?

01:18:53.000 I think they're all late 20s, maybe early 30s at the time.

01:18:57.000 And their testosterone levels were equal to 80 year old men.

01:19:02.000 Yeah, I don't, I'm, I, yeah.

01:19:05.000 Okay.

01:19:05.000 You know, from the top looking down, if someone's in the computer all day, that's kind of like them telling biology, you're not going to need my sperm.

01:19:12.000 I am a machine.

01:19:13.000 I'm an electronic organism.

01:19:14.000 I'm going to plant my brain in a machine.

01:19:16.000 And when I'm 30, it doesn't matter.

01:19:18.000 You don't need me anyway.

01:19:19.000 My, so the body's just like, I mean, obviously this guy's not interacting with women.

01:19:22.000 He doesn't need to be producing testosterone.

01:19:24.000 He's getting, are you telling us something?

01:19:26.000 Hey, I love my girlfriend.

01:19:28.000 All right.

01:19:29.000 She plays video games too.

01:19:31.000 But yeah, I am telling you something.

01:19:32.000 When I started doing YouTube and making videos, I threw World of Warcraft away.

01:19:36.000 I broke the CD and tossed it in the gutter because I had a massive video game addiction.

01:19:41.000 And for two years I didn't touch them.

01:19:42.000 And I created the most amazing career.

01:19:46.000 And created some of the best friendships of my life to this day.

01:19:50.000 Getting off it.

01:19:51.000 On video games?

01:19:51.000 Off video games.

01:19:52.000 It was all off.

01:19:53.000 YouTube became my video game.

01:19:54.000 Interacting with people became my video game.

01:19:57.000 So there's no understanding of why testosterone levels are dropping, really?

01:20:02.000 I wish I'd studied it better.

01:20:04.000 Prepared for your quiz today?

01:20:06.000 Yeah.

01:20:06.000 No, I just, it's not an area I've studied.

01:20:08.000 I wish I had, and it isn't important.

01:20:10.000 What do you think?

01:20:11.000 Like dudes are going to become shorter, weaker, less muscle mass, less bone density.

01:20:15.000 I think it's probably not a good thing that testosterone levels are, you know, are falling.

01:20:20.000 I see, I see this, I see this meme all the time that says the Y chromosome is disappearing.

01:20:24.000 Have you heard that?

01:20:25.000 I haven't heard that.

01:20:27.000 So I think it's feminists misunderstanding what the science actually is, obviously. 1.00

01:20:33.000 But it's that males, so I was reading about it, males evolve faster than females, in humans at least.

01:20:41.000 And or should I say, I should say this is a related to the greater male variability hypothesis.

01:20:47.000 Are you familiar with that one?

01:20:48.000 No, I'm not.

01:20:49.000 I'm not at all.

01:20:50.000 This one is a greater male variability hypothesis states that among men, there'll be a greater variation in physical traits as opposed to women.

01:21:00.000 And that's because, you know, men, the best, the strongest, the most successful will reproduce with the women, right? 1.00

01:21:07.000 And so if you have a wide, if you have zero IQ to a thousand IQ, That wide range allows the best of the best to have stronger and better children and to try and fight, you know, fight for the women and then women can choose whichever man is better or the, you know, depending on what year it is, if it's the caveman era, it's not so pretty for the women. 0.72

01:21:29.000 But so, in that, the idea basically is, I forgot what I was starting on, now that we're talking about greater males.

01:21:38.000 The idea is that among the greater variability of males, the Y chromosome changes substantially.

01:21:45.000 So, you know, to create a higher chance of mutations and alterations in the human body.

01:21:51.000 And then the failure mutations cease to exist, die off, don't have kids.

01:21:55.000 The successful mutations end up having kids.

01:21:57.000 Feminists have taken this to say, oh, because the Y chromosome is smaller now than it was before or whatever, that means men will eventually disappear instead of, well, the reality is it could get bigger and larger and just come back in force. 1.00

01:22:09.000 Who knows?

01:22:10.000 I'll miss you guys when you all disappear.

01:22:11.000 I have really enjoyed it.

01:22:13.000 We're alive now.

01:22:14.000 We'll be on Mars.

01:22:15.000 So we're not just gonna die.

01:22:16.000 And you're not gonna be immortal.

01:22:17.000 Or maybe, I don't know.

01:22:18.000 Maybe we'll all be immortals. 0.98

01:22:19.000 That sounds like awful.

01:22:20.000 There are no, like it's just a bunch of women. 1.00

01:22:22.000 We're in the Oceans movie all over again.

01:22:24.000 They'll live in New York and it's basically that already, isn't it?

01:22:26.000 Pass.

01:22:27.000 Not for me.

01:22:28.000 You know, I'll tell you that I haven't heard of, I'm not familiar with that sort of theory.

01:22:34.000 I'll tell you what kind of along the same lines is concerning are individuals who believe that the differences between boys and girls don't have a natural root.

01:22:50.000 And I've read these people's writings and they're just completely, they're disconnected from reality because boys and girls are different.

01:22:59.000 Oh don't get me started man, you know.

01:23:00.000 I read this study once that said at birth, like within 24 hours, female infants and male infants react to things differently.

01:23:09.000 Like female infants are much more interested in faces and male infants are much more likely to be looking at like what's beeping.

01:23:16.000 I just watched a video on Instagram.

01:23:21.000 I would think of a seven-year-old doing a 900 on a skateboard.

01:23:25.000 Maybe it was nine.

01:23:26.000 I don't know.

01:23:26.000 Either way, he was in the single digits of age.

01:23:29.000 A nine-year-old boy, a seven-year-old boy, just a tiny little kid.

01:23:33.000 Tiny.

01:23:33.000 The board was as tall as he was.

01:23:35.000 And it was one of the just most amazing... So for those unfamiliar with skateboarding, 900 is like a legit, seriously difficult maneuver.

01:23:43.000 It was first done in 1999 by Tony Hawk.

01:23:45.000 It was considered a huge moment in the history of skateboarding.

01:23:49.000 And then the second one was landed, you know, like 10 years later, I think it was something like that.

01:23:54.000 Maybe it was like eight years later or something.

01:23:56.000 But then the first 1080, which is three complete rotations, was done by a 12-year-old boy.

01:24:02.000 12 year old boy.

01:24:03.000 So Tony Hawk was like 30 when he landed the first 900 which is two and a half spins Followed by a 12 year old boy to the first full three rotations adding an extra half spin to it Now you've got little kids in the single digits landing this once insane move No girls No girls. 0.68

01:24:23.000 That proves it!

01:24:24.000 But I mean, it's anecdotal, but maybe it's a little bit more than that if you're doing an observational study, and you take a look at all of the ten-year-old boys and girls who have been skating for the same amount of time, and you wonder why it is that even before puberty, boys are landing historical feats in skateboarding and the girls don't come close.

01:24:43.000 And when I say don't come close, I mean with all due respect.

01:24:48.000 When you watch tennis, I couldn't tell you the difference.

01:24:51.000 If I see two guys playing tennis, I see them hitting the ball.

01:24:54.000 I see two men play tennis, I see them hitting the ball.

01:24:56.000 Don't know, because I can't see it.

01:24:58.000 You show anyone skateboarding, and you show them a 12-year-old boy jumping a 70-foot gap, then going up a 25-foot-tall wall, a half pipe, quarter pipe, and landing a 1080, 45 feet up in the air, and you're going, wow!

01:25:14.000 And then you watch the girls skate it, and they don't do it at all because it's too advanced. 0.95

01:25:19.000 And at the same age, with the same year's skateboarding, there's clearly something there.

01:25:24.000 So I researched it.

01:25:26.000 The first thing that's really obvious is fast-switch muscles as a result of prenatal testosterone, which is, as my understanding, a huge factor in muscle development.

01:25:35.000 So even before puberty.

01:25:38.000 This idea that if you give these sex changes to these children, or hormonal therapies, before they hit puberty, they can become the other, you know, at least to a greater degree, passing, whatever they want to call it.

01:25:52.000 That's all in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.

01:25:54.000 The issue is, even before puberty, from birth, there are distinct physical differences that are very obvious and discernible between males and females.

01:26:02.000 Yeah, I think that's true.

01:26:03.000 I mean, you would know better than that.

01:26:05.000 I always think about this tweet that I saw and it was a dad being like, there was a there was a time and it probably still true, but when it was really big to be like, you got to you got to give your kids not like a mixed array of gender toys.

01:26:21.000 So if you have a daughter, buy her Barbies, but also buy her Tonka trucks.

01:26:23.000 And if you have a son, get him a play kitchen as well as like tools or whatever it is to encourage you know not being trapped in gender stereotypes and this dad was like oh i did it and he takes a picture and it's his daughter who has tucked her tonka trucks into bed into like a barbie bed because for whatever reason like

01:26:40.000 The trucks are her babies and she's going to take care of them and that is really inherent.

01:26:44.000 This dad is actively trying to not reinforce gender stereotypes and she's doing it anyways. 0.95

01:26:48.000 I think physiologically and in the brain there are clear differences from an early age and it is confusing for children to be told, well you shouldn't behave that way because it's sort of bad in a way that is complicated to explain to you.

01:27:00.000 I don't know why this also occurred to me.

01:27:01.000 One of the things I think about the Try Guy video when they test their testosterone, I don't know a ton about them, but I know that the only, the guy who scored the highest on the test, not that it's like a winning, but sort of winning, is the only one who's married.

01:27:15.000 And he might still be, I'm not sure, but like at the time he was the only married guy.

01:27:20.000 So, testosterone marriage correlation here?

01:27:22.000 So the question is, was getting married what caused his testosterone to go up, or is it because he had high testosterone he got this marriage?

01:27:29.000 Or are our marriage rates falling because our testosterone rates are falling?

01:27:32.000 I think that's probably very likely.

01:27:35.000 And I attribute personally a lot to diet.

01:27:37.000 When I eat crappy, I do not feel sexy at all.

01:27:40.000 And normally I feel sexy.

01:27:41.000 Let me just get that on the table.

01:27:43.000 I don't know though.

01:27:43.000 You look at people like Tiger Woods, wasn't he?

01:27:47.000 He was like called promiscuous or whatever.

01:27:48.000 South Park did a whole thing on it.

01:27:50.000 That was actually really funny.

01:27:50.000 I don't know if you guys ever saw that South Park episode where they're like, we don't understand why it is.

01:27:55.000 That rich, successful men are sleeping with so many women.

01:27:59.000 What's up with that?

01:28:00.000 They were confused by it.

01:28:02.000 So I actually wonder if... I don't know if the marriage thing correlates, to a certain degree.

01:28:07.000 Low T guys are probably not successful in their relationships, but I would argue that the high T guys, like what we're seeing with the...

01:28:16.000 Was it the OkCupid data that women overwhelmingly choose the top 20% of men?

01:28:20.000 So, like, the higher T guys are getting all the women. 0.95

01:28:24.000 They're not getting married either.

01:28:26.000 High testosterone correlates to the way you present, right?

01:28:29.000 Like, I don't know if this is true, but someone told me once that men going bald is actually a sign of high testosterone in men.

01:28:36.000 And so, like, there are things that socially we wouldn't necessarily think Think of that we are subtly picking up on the way people present or, you know, you probably can do this better.

01:28:45.000 I don't like quoting medical advice in front of a doctor.

01:28:49.000 Speaking from experience, the baldness thing is sensitivity to, I think, DHT.

01:28:54.000 What's DHT?

01:28:55.000 You know that better than me.

01:28:56.000 Was it dihydrotestosterone?

01:28:57.000 Is that what it is?

01:29:00.000 Um, cuz you know, look, I gotta be honest.

01:29:02.000 It is.

01:29:03.000 I'm me and Brian South there are very different people.

01:29:05.000 Neither of us have hair.

01:29:05.000 So, you know, it's like the warrior in you like your hair is already gone.

01:29:10.000 So no one can grab it if you find yourself in combat, maybe.

01:29:14.000 Well, you know, I don't know.

01:29:17.000 I wear my hair short.

01:29:18.000 What I will contribute to this conversation is that we've got three boys, and we do exactly that.

01:29:24.000 You know, whatever, like, we just let them play with what they want, right?

01:29:29.000 So what some of these people believe is that, well, it's all a construct.

01:29:35.000 Boys only like, you know, they like the toy cars because that's all you give them, and girls like the dolls because that's all you give them, and obviously there are exceptions to everything.

01:29:43.000 But that is literally factually incorrect.

01:29:47.000 Yes, I think the right thing to do is to let your kids play what they want, because guess what?

01:29:52.000 That's who they are, and you can fight it as long as you want, but that will never change.

01:29:56.000 And so you ought not fight it, and you should go with whoever they are.

01:29:59.000 There's something interesting to be said about not knowing things exist, they can't ask for it.

01:30:05.000 Right.

01:30:06.000 No, yeah, exactly.

01:30:07.000 So what we do is we let them play with what they want It just so turns out that you know One of our boys likes this type of toy the other way and they all you know, they all like kind of boy stuff But um, you know, so anyway, I agree with letting them play with whatever they want Yeah.

01:30:22.000 I think it's funny that there are like, you know, girls play with dolls and boys play with action figures.

01:30:27.000 Like, bro, they're dolls.

01:30:29.000 Dolls with joints.

01:30:30.000 I had Barbies growing up for a little while and all of my brother's G.I. 0.85

01:30:34.000 Joes would occasionally come by and either murder my Barbies or marry them. 1.00

01:30:37.000 It was really hard to tell what would happen.

01:30:38.000 I want to encourage people not to, well, one of the things I'm concerned with is that people will overcompensate with this conversation of testosterone and then go for the high tea, because I think a balanced tea.

01:30:47.000 You see, I think John McAfee, I don't want to put the guy on blast, John, if you're still out there, I love you, man.

01:30:52.000 What do you mean if he's still out there?

01:30:53.000 If he's still alive.

01:30:54.000 I'm prepping for this.

01:30:54.000 What's happening?

01:30:55.000 He uploaded himself.

01:30:56.000 I think he was high tea, like was taking testosterone supplements.

01:30:59.000 And you could see his face was really red.

01:31:01.000 Skin is very leathery, like too much.

01:31:03.000 Yeah.

01:31:04.000 No, it can increase the risk of blood clots, for example.

01:31:08.000 I mean, I don't recommend that.

01:31:10.000 What I do recommend is that people eat as clean as possible in terms of avoiding the, you know, pesticides, eating as organic as possible, which, like, used to be how all food was, but now you actually have to go seek it out, and exercising, right?

01:31:24.000 You know, some resistance training, too.

01:31:26.000 I mean, you know, that's probably as good as you can do overall these days.

01:31:32.000 All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats in like one second because YouTube keeps crashing on us, so we found a new way to read Super Chats.

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01:31:51.000 talking about COVID, Florida, their response, and a lot of that stuff.

01:31:55.000 So check that out over at TimCast.com.

01:31:56.000 But let's read some of these Super Chats. 0.92

01:31:59.000 Let me try and find the first one.

01:32:02.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr., what's up, man?

01:32:03.000 He says, hey guys, just wanted to thank you again for having Mike Glover on IRL and Uncensored are worth a second, IRL and Uncensored are worth a second watch.

01:32:11.000 His knowledge is valuable to us all.

01:32:12.000 He was great.

01:32:12.000 He was so great.

01:32:13.000 He was really fun to have on.

01:32:15.000 All right, let's see.

01:32:17.000 Joe Burns says, what is it?

01:32:19.000 Oh, here.

01:32:21.000 Slipping that over to you.

01:32:22.000 What is this?

01:32:22.000 That's why, one of the reasons I'm here.

01:32:24.000 It's a book.

01:32:25.000 Are we getting some book recommendations?

01:32:27.000 Why, I wrote a book that's coming out tomorrow and it's one of the reasons I booked with Tim.

01:32:32.000 Ah, Transcend Fear by Joseph Latipow.

01:32:37.000 Well, we'll get you to shout it out in a second.

01:32:39.000 Let's read some super chats.

01:32:41.000 We still have about half an hour, so we're good.

01:32:43.000 Joe Burns says, Ian, have you ever looked into nano diamond battery technology?

01:32:48.000 They're self-charging nuclear batteries which are supposed to last for thousands of years.

01:32:51.000 Interesting.

01:32:55.000 Anyway, moving on.

01:32:58.000 Let's see.

01:33:00.000 Let's grab another one.

01:33:03.000 Neil Sawyer says it deeply saddens me to see him resign. 0.99

01:33:06.000 Just make sure you let the door hit you in the tuchus on the way out, you dang ghoul. 1.00

01:33:10.000 What a terrible man. 0.97

01:33:11.000 I just want to know if Harvard and Yale are like, please come to our medical schools, and if that's going to be the sign that they are no longer credible institutions.

01:33:20.000 Not that they are, I'm just suggesting.

01:33:22.000 They're already recommending booster shots in healthy young people, so how credible is that?

01:33:29.000 John Diaz says, Tim, lately you've been saying you guys are winning, you can beat the establishment in your vids, and I wanted to thank you because you're right!

01:33:35.000 I had lost hope, but you helped me see it.

01:33:37.000 Yeah, um, in one week, I mean, this is like the greatest white pill moment.

01:33:41.000 Liz Cheney loses her election, then we get, uh, Brian Stelter is fired from CNN, they cancel the show, you know, fired, whatever, colloquial term, or I mean, uh, opinion, let's call it that.

01:33:52.000 He's out.

01:33:53.000 Severed ties with him.

01:33:54.000 Severed ties.

01:33:55.000 And then Fauci.

01:33:56.000 And then as an honorable, you know, little bump, Sam Harris outs himself as a dangerous 0.72

01:34:01.000 authoritarian lunatic and then discredits himself.

01:34:04.000 So the Sam Harris one, I think, doesn't really fit, but you get, you know, they say it comes

01:34:08.000 in threes.

01:34:09.000 Major, major victory.

01:34:10.000 I mean, Carrie Lake wins. 1.00

01:34:13.000 Hageman wins.

01:34:14.000 I mean, you gotta be looking at this and thinking, you're taking the field, you know?

01:34:18.000 So come November, go and vote.

01:34:21.000 I liked your idea of, like, tell all your friends you're gonna get pizza, but insist that you drive and drive them to the polls really quick.

01:34:26.000 Stop at the local polling place.

01:34:28.000 Or, you know, you can be like, hey everybody, we're gonna go grab pizza, but make sure you bring your mail-in ballot with you.

01:34:33.000 Yeah.

01:34:34.000 I do get worried.

01:34:35.000 People will do it.

01:34:36.000 I do get worried about, like, complacency.

01:34:37.000 I think that it's great to celebrate victories and let's just not back down yet, you know?

01:34:44.000 Brandon Hampson says, Hannah Clare is worried about Tim like Squidward was worried about Mr. Krabs.

01:34:48.000 Oh no, who's gonna sign my paychecks?

01:34:50.000 No, I worry about Tim generally, but you guys have to admit, it would be sad if the best news site of all time, TimCast.com, could not function because Tim had brain damage.

01:35:01.000 WuxiaGameCentral says, you really need to wear a helmet.

01:35:03.000 A car once kicked up a rock that flew at my head.

01:35:06.000 Luckily I was wearing my scooter helmet, got a concussion.

01:35:09.000 Wow.

01:35:10.000 See?

01:35:10.000 Me and your mom think you should wear a helmet.

01:35:12.000 Everybody wear a helmet.

01:35:13.000 The thing for me is, I've never hit my head before.

01:35:17.000 And I've been skating for 22 or 22 and a half years or whatever.

01:35:22.000 But recently, I've been rollerblading.

01:35:25.000 And with this, I've been going up like 8 to 9 feet on the vert wall.

01:35:31.000 And sometimes you lose your footing and you get ejected.

01:35:34.000 And then you're coming 9 feet straight down to the ground.

01:35:36.000 There was one really funny day where I went up And it's a short vert wall.

01:35:41.000 What that means is, a good vertical quarter pipe has like a foot of vert, and it's big, maybe like 13 feet.

01:35:48.000 That gives you a chance to pump up to it, and actually ride the wall before getting air.

01:35:52.000 We have a very short one, it's 7 feet, which means it stops right at the point where it goes vert. 0.69

01:35:57.000 So it's, it kind of sucks.

01:35:59.000 And so I went up it with some good speed and I accidentally kicked too hard off of the wall because you either jump a little bit before the vert or you wait till the vert.

01:36:07.000 And so I got ejected.

01:36:08.000 What that means is you're not on the wall anymore.

01:36:10.000 Now you're just nine feet in the air, headed straight down to flat ground and sideways.

01:36:15.000 So you're gonna, but I was able to bend my legs a little bit to get some forward motion and roll out of it.

01:36:22.000 And I was totally fine.

01:36:23.000 And then I didn't wear a helmet then.

01:36:25.000 I'm never wearing a helmet, says Tim Poole.

01:36:27.000 There's the trope of the warrior king that fights with his men for years and then eventually they're like, you have to go back and stay in the capital and we need you alive and smart because you're our leader.

01:36:38.000 We can't risk your life anymore.

01:36:40.000 And I think Rogan might even give you the advice of stop skating, dude.

01:36:43.000 Like he tells the fighters, stop fighting.

01:36:46.000 What?

01:36:46.000 Those head traumas?

01:36:47.000 Those CTs?

01:36:48.000 I've never hit my head before.

01:36:49.000 Of course before, but you're lucky.

01:36:52.000 But my point is, if you take brain damage, you know, that's a big part of your career is your brain.

01:36:56.000 Sounds like a you problem.

01:36:57.000 That's what Rogan tells his fighter buddies that are, like, have careers in media, like, stop fighting.

01:37:03.000 But what if Tim starts wearing a helmet and it throws off his balance and then he becomes more prone to accidents and breaks more bones?

01:37:08.000 That actually is an issue.

01:37:09.000 If you're not used to wearing one, you know, when I was little it was really distracting and it's, like, really uncomfortable.

01:37:15.000 But I'm not really going ham anymore.

01:37:18.000 And fighting's not skating.

01:37:20.000 But I think the risk of head trauma is a lot smaller.

01:37:24.000 Do you want to weigh in as a doctor over here?

01:37:25.000 Yeah, what do you think?

01:37:27.000 Don't take punches to the face?

01:37:30.000 I would recommend against punches to the face and other traumatic forces to the face.

01:37:34.000 Falling down?

01:37:35.000 What about falling down?

01:37:37.000 Don't fall down.

01:37:37.000 It's dangerous out there, guys.

01:37:42.000 Alright, I don't know what this means, I'm gonna read it.

01:37:43.000 Bruce Maximus says, Hey y'all, I'd like to ask Dr. Latipo whether he has any stance on the seemingly artificial lack of seats in med school.

01:37:51.000 I've heard anecdotally there are some 50 qualified applicants per seat.

01:37:54.000 Cheers.

01:37:55.000 Going back to my science, uh, lab science BS.

01:37:58.000 Have you heard of that?

01:38:00.000 I don't know if it's, you know, if it's sort of contrived.

01:38:07.000 It is true. 0.96

01:38:08.000 I mean, medical school is ridiculous.

01:38:09.000 There are so many applications for EC.

01:38:13.000 People end up going to medical school even kind of out of the country because that's where they get in.

01:38:18.000 And it seems to be a problem that's only getting worse and the medical school classes don't expand at the, they don't seem to expand at the rate of applicants.

01:38:27.000 But it's regulated and you can run into issues.

01:38:33.000 So for example, there are only so many residency spots.

01:38:36.000 So if you have, say you double the number of medical students, well maybe half of them won't have anywhere to train when they're done with medical school.

01:38:46.000 So it's a bit of a complicated issue.

01:38:48.000 All right.

01:38:49.000 Hayden says, prediction, speculation, Fauci retiring because of fear of Republican control of Congress in January.

01:38:55.000 Biden will retire in December or January.

01:38:57.000 Harris will grant pardons to Biden's Fauci and Peter Daszak, Newsom appointed VP.

01:39:04.000 It's a bold, it's a bold speculation.

01:39:05.000 I don't, I don't think so.

01:39:07.000 You know, I'd love to believe that Biden is going to resign or retire and then something happens, but it's just... I mean, I think... I think that's an emergency card.

01:39:16.000 Like, if he really couldn't make it, that would make him resign.

01:39:19.000 But like, I think they're going to try and make him get through an entire first term.

01:39:23.000 I do think a second term is very clearly off the table.

01:39:27.000 All right.

01:39:29.000 Let's grab some Super Chats.

01:39:32.000 Waffle Sensei says, Tim, do you ever spend time watching Yuri Bezmenov's long lectures?

01:39:36.000 I think you'd appreciate them.

01:39:38.000 Most people just see the twelve in an interview, but Yuri does detailed breakdowns of the stuff.

01:39:42.000 Interesting.

01:39:43.000 We should get that.

01:39:43.000 We'll play it.

01:39:44.000 I'm just... We were supposed to have the Freedomistan studio built.

01:39:49.000 Like, in March.

01:39:50.000 It was like, a year ago it was supposed to be done, then it got delayed, and then... The framing is going up, so they are building it.

01:39:56.000 Maybe in a week or two, the structure will be done, then we gotta do the internals, and it's like...

01:40:00.000 But I'm really excited for this because we'll be able to like put a big projector up and play this and just have it running in the background all day and cool stuff like that.

01:40:07.000 So I'm very much excited for all that.

01:40:08.000 That'll be great.

01:40:11.000 All right, Bill Hughes says Fauci will be retiring from the US government so he can draw that humongous pension.

01:40:16.000 He's not retiring from making money from research.

01:40:20.000 There you go, more money to be made.

01:40:21.000 He can keep working somewhere else.

01:40:23.000 You know what's probably gonna happen?

01:40:25.000 I think the real reason he's resigning, he's retiring, or he's not retiring, he's resigning, is that the pension.

01:40:32.000 But he's gonna do book tours.

01:40:34.000 He's gonna go on talk shows.

01:40:35.000 He's gonna do contributorships.

01:40:37.000 He's gonna feel pretty for a little while, people wanting to interview him.

01:40:40.000 He's going to go to one of these networks and he's going to be like, $5 million and I will be a contributor to your network.

01:40:46.000 And then they're going to sign the deal with them and have him out.

01:40:49.000 Like he already does this for free though, right?

01:40:51.000 Do you think he has any political ambitions?

01:40:53.000 Do you think he'll try and parlay this into like being elected somewhere?

01:40:57.000 He is 81, so Bernie Sanders might object.

01:40:59.000 Could you imagine if he ran for president?

01:41:01.000 No, I would really prefer he didn't.

01:41:04.000 That'd be funny.

01:41:06.000 All right, the Old Man Time Media says, the Presbyterian Church is a liberal church.

01:41:11.000 They are pro-choice and pro-LBGT. 0.97

01:41:14.000 Interesting.

01:41:15.000 So the bombing may have been right-wing or what?

01:41:18.000 There are a lot of left-wing leaning churches.

01:41:20.000 I mean, I grew up Episcopalian, and the Episcopalian Church just came out in part in favor of gender-related treatments, both surgical and medical.

01:41:30.000 So I don't think that Necessarily clarifies anything.

01:41:33.000 I stand by my speculation that this was personal on some level.

01:41:39.000 No Saint 317 says, in 2019 a man attacked Kyoto Animation Studio.

01:41:44.000 He set fire to the building and stabbed people as he ran out, killing 36 people.

01:41:48.000 Injured an additional 34.

01:41:49.000 It doesn't take much to cause havoc.

01:41:52.000 The sad reality of life is that it's really hard to build a machine and it's really easy to disrupt one.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, I think about that a lot.

01:41:59.000 Yeah.

01:41:59.000 You can have this beautiful, massive machine of gears. I think about this when you watch the show,

01:42:04.000 like when you watch a show about newspaper printing, be it like an old movie or whatever,

01:42:09.000 and the machine is massive and all the newspapers are being printed in full speed,

01:42:13.000 and then someone takes a paperclip into one gear, then the whole thing just shuts down.

01:42:18.000 It's just so crazy. Life is delicate.

01:42:21.000 Yep, yep.

01:42:22.000 Hard to build.

01:42:23.000 Easy to knock down, man.

01:42:25.000 Aroftis of Stett.

01:42:26.000 Aroftis, it says.

01:42:27.000 In the pale moonlight, Tim.

01:42:28.000 Stay safe.

01:42:29.000 I wanted to shout him out because I mentioned that during the show.

01:42:31.000 That's the Star Trek DS9 episode I highly recommend.

01:42:37.000 OMG Puppy says, I don't think Dugan and Putin have even met.

01:42:41.000 He advocates for a multipolar world that preserves the traditions of every civilization.

01:42:45.000 He attacks fascism, communism, and liberalism as 20th century failures.

01:42:48.000 Interesting.

01:42:51.000 Devin Garden says, Dugan was there when the bomb went off.

01:42:53.000 I watched a video yesterday of him looking at the burning wreckage in shock and horror.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:42:58.000 The photo is all over the place.

01:42:59.000 The photo and the video.

01:43:03.000 All right.

01:43:04.000 Doug Ripley says, General Latipo, what is Ron DeSantis like to work for?

01:43:09.000 Why would he make a good POTUS?

01:43:11.000 And who else in your field would he recommend go on IRL?

01:43:18.000 Well he's, I enjoy working for him and frankly part of the reason is that it feels more like, I mean I don't know that I've ever felt like I'm working for him.

01:43:28.000 I feel like I'm working with him.

01:43:30.000 So that's, that's been fun.

01:43:32.000 I mean it's been, it's been fun.

01:43:34.000 He doesn't try and sort of manage or micromanage.

01:43:37.000 He's really about getting the job done.

01:43:41.000 That's just his focus is the outcome and and not sort of the kind of the the political stuff that Seems to you know that mostly dominates politics in terms of how how politicians Carry themselves and what they do.

01:43:57.000 So it's been a lot of fun working with him.

01:43:59.000 I I mean I think he is, like I said, he cares about the outcome and it would be great to have someone, it's great to have him and that's why he's been so successful in Florida is that he actually cares about the outcome and doesn't care what people are going to think about unpopular opinions or names they're going to call him or things like that.

01:44:20.000 Those are great qualities and those are really great qualities for a leader.

01:44:23.000 Right on.

01:44:24.000 Notre Dame says, the bombing is similar to the IRA.

01:44:27.000 They believed the British were occupying Ireland, and after much escalation, it resulted in car bombings in London.

01:44:33.000 London, man, that's crazy.

01:44:36.000 Yeah, I've been to Northern Ireland.

01:44:38.000 I've never been to the, to Dublin or, you know, I guess would you call it just Ireland?

01:44:44.000 Northern Ireland?

01:44:44.000 The regular part.

01:44:45.000 Regular Ireland. 0.96

01:44:46.000 The Ireland.

01:44:47.000 Regular Ireland. 0.96

01:44:48.000 Yeah, just, just Belfast.

01:44:50.000 Beautiful.

01:44:51.000 Great place.

01:44:53.000 Crazy seeing all the stuff, man.

01:44:56.000 All right.

01:44:57.000 AJ Cook says, dude, you need to turn on notifications for RWA on Twitter.

01:45:01.000 Russian government has already released a video of a suspect.

01:45:05.000 Hot blonde. 1.00

01:45:06.000 What is this?

01:45:07.000 Not scraggly bearded dude.

01:45:08.000 Interesting.

01:45:10.000 A hot blonde German ideology girl. 0.70

01:45:13.000 I'll take a look at it.

01:45:14.000 It's in German.

01:45:15.000 Wow.

01:45:15.000 Feminism.

01:45:16.000 Love it.

01:45:17.000 Could be a German person.

01:45:18.000 That's what I was thinking earlier in the show, but I'm like, I'm not gonna start naming countries. 0.97

01:45:21.000 That's too, you know, it's ridiculous.

01:45:24.000 New T2 says, Chicken Ian is the best.

01:45:27.000 We love him.

01:45:29.000 All right.

01:45:30.000 Yeah, he is.

01:45:33.000 What do we got here?

01:45:35.000 He's the best chicken.

01:45:37.000 The best chicken.

01:45:37.000 The greatest chicken.

01:45:38.000 The Maladraw Mama says a division of the Presbyterian Church is progressive within realm of reason for unstable MAGA person to target.

01:45:45.000 Don't know how, why, if connected to federal building.

01:45:49.000 I stand by that one is far away and there are other liberal churches much closer.

01:45:53.000 Liberal churches?

01:45:54.000 I mean churches that have liberal factions and like I said there's an Episcopalian church within close proximity.

01:46:00.000 You have to like you have to look at the map but like if the federal building is close to what's called like a center of town and there are 10 churches close by there you have to travel 20 minutes on foot three minutes by car to this other church.

01:46:12.000 Again, that feels more pointed.

01:46:15.000 It feels more specific.

01:46:15.000 It could be because of ideology.

01:46:17.000 I'm not saying that, but it does feel like if you were against churches that had left-leaning ideology, you could have picked one closer to the other place and made a faster escape.

01:46:26.000 Noah Zork says, Tim Tay pronouns.

01:46:29.000 That's actually T-Tim Tims.

01:46:31.000 Okay, it's T-Tim Tims.

01:46:33.000 Yeah.

01:46:34.000 What's going on?

01:46:34.000 My pronouns.

01:46:35.000 Oh.

01:46:35.000 T-Tim-Tims.

01:46:36.000 I see.

01:46:37.000 That's right.

01:46:37.000 My name is actually a pronoun.

01:46:39.000 Is it T-Y-M-apostrophe-S?

01:46:41.000 Yes.

01:46:42.000 The funny thing about pronouns is, like, we use pronouns as generic placeholder words so we don't have to say your name over and over again.

01:46:49.000 But if everyone has their own, then we might as well just call you by your name.

01:46:52.000 Yeah.

01:46:52.000 What's the point?

01:46:53.000 I find myself thinking about that when I'm reporting on people.

01:46:56.000 You have to be like, okay, what names am I using?

01:46:58.000 I think it'll just be safer to use their name.

01:47:00.000 But I do wonder how long until we all start talking in the third person to just avoid all pronouns in any case at all.

01:47:06.000 That way, there's no question.

01:47:07.000 Even I. Yeah.

01:47:08.000 And you.

01:47:09.000 I would just say, Hannah Clare says that this would be interesting and it would be horrible.

01:47:13.000 I don't even like talking in this way as a joke.

01:47:15.000 That world is not coming.

01:47:17.000 What happens when there's two Ians in the same room? 1.00

01:47:19.000 Ian says this, Ian certainly does not.

01:47:22.000 It's like when you're in elementary school and has to be like, E&C and E&T and fight it out.

01:47:28.000 Are you, why do you say it's not coming?

01:47:31.000 Are you are you personally involved in the fight against pronoun and third person speech?

01:47:36.000 I mean, I guess in some ways, yeah.

01:47:39.000 No, I mean, you know, it's, it's, it's, you know, some of these, some of these kind of agendas, they start in one place, but they're really headed somewhere else.

01:47:51.000 And that's a, that's an example of one.

01:47:53.000 What if I made my pronoun we?

01:47:55.000 You can make your pronouns anything you want.

01:47:56.000 We're gonna go to the park.

01:47:58.000 We're gonna go have some food.

01:47:59.000 Stop bringing me into this.

01:48:00.000 That way people feel obligated to go with you.

01:48:04.000 Like we're going to the grocery store.

01:48:06.000 Okay Ian, I guess so.

01:48:07.000 I guess we're all going.

01:48:08.000 It's power of suggestion.

01:48:10.000 We are?

01:48:11.000 Yeah, we're gonna have a chill night, play some across the obelisk.

01:48:14.000 And then when someone invites themselves with you, you say, what are you doing?

01:48:17.000 Why are you following us?

01:48:18.000 Why are you following us?

01:48:19.000 We didn't invite you here! 0.97

01:48:21.000 Stop being confused!

01:48:22.000 All right, Fiend V, for Joe, what is your take on the Florida medical marijuana program and possible legalization in the future, if you could speak on it?

01:48:31.000 Well, it's interesting.

01:48:33.000 I mean, so I, in general, Favor people, you know being able to use marijuana if they want But I wouldn't want my kids to use it and it's not The risk-free Medicaid sort of drug that it was portrayed at portrayed as initially So, I don't know if you guys saw these articles.

01:48:56.000 So the New York Times Washington Post they were all big pushers of legalization of marijuana and But just recently, like, New York Times has run multiple negative articles about it.

01:49:06.000 I don't know if you saw those.

01:49:07.000 Really?

01:49:07.000 But basically, oh yeah, in young people.

01:49:09.000 So they've run, you know, very prominent articles about how, you know, some individuals kind of develop mental illness, other harms, something called hyperemesis syndrome that we see not infrequently in the hospital.

01:49:24.000 What is that?

01:49:24.000 sort of people that use it chronically become, start throwing up, they vomit, they develop abdominal pain,

01:49:32.000 and it's kind of unstoppable.

01:49:34.000 They require hospitalizations, it's very severe.

01:49:38.000 And there are other harms associated with it.

01:49:41.000 In addition, really high quality studies have looked at the association of legalization

01:49:48.000 with things like car accidents.

01:49:50.000 And they found an association.

01:49:53.000 So, in other words, you know, the implication is that people are using it and driving and, you know, and unfortunately injuring themselves, injuring other people, having car accidents.

01:50:01.000 Clinical study or an observational?

01:50:03.000 These are observational studies.

01:50:06.000 They're not all wrong.

01:50:08.000 Multiple studies have found similar findings.

01:50:11.000 So the New York Times is now acknowledging harms.

01:50:14.000 You can look it up.

01:50:15.000 They've published a few recent articles that are very negative on their use in kids.

01:50:21.000 It's totally harmful for kids.

01:50:23.000 It's not good for your brain.

01:50:24.000 So medically, I think it absolutely should be available for individuals, certainly people with pain.

01:50:31.000 And there can be a lot of challenging things, but people should realize it's not like some harmless thing.

01:50:35.000 I mean, it's, it's potentially very harmful.

01:50:37.000 I didn't touch it till I was 23.

01:50:39.000 And I feel like I dodged a bullet because as a kid, I, a lot of the kids I knew that did it in high school were just had hard, hard time paying attention in school.

01:50:46.000 Basically their minds, you know, your intelligence goes down, your wisdom might go up, but it's like, you really got to love what you're, Paying attention to if your wisdom's not going up if your intelligence is going down.

01:50:57.000 No, I think that's actually an interesting point.

01:51:00.000 I agree with that, actually.

01:51:02.000 Like, wisdom is... How would you define wisdom?

01:51:07.000 What's the best way to do it?

01:51:08.000 Knowing that what you think you know might be wrong?

01:51:11.000 Sort of.

01:51:11.000 I mean, the saying is that intelligence is knowing that, or was it knowledge, is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

01:51:22.000 No, I hear you.

01:51:22.000 I hear you.

01:51:23.000 I mean, I would say I would, you know, to get a little bit kind of, um, uh, I dunno, more medical and psychological on this, right?

01:51:31.000 So if you take a drug that reduces your inhibitions, that reduces your attachment to sort of held beliefs that you have other beliefs that, you know, that may not be true, that may be false or may be very rigid and usually rigid beliefs aren't, they're usually, there's usually something behind them.

01:51:49.000 That's not authentic when individuals have sort of rigid beliefs about things.

01:51:54.000 So when you take those away, your sort of clarity I could see, your ability to identify a belief that is more in line with who you might be or what is closer to some truth or insight, that can increase.

01:52:16.000 But that's a funky way to say that you're I don't know.

01:52:20.000 I'm thinking about this whole wisdom thing.

01:52:23.000 That's not the path to wisdom.

01:52:25.000 The path to wisdom ought not to be so expensive because it's costly.

01:52:29.000 Wait, hold on.

01:52:30.000 The internet says intelligence can be defined as the ability to acquire and apply information

01:52:34.000 while wisdom on the other hand is, wait hold on, intelligence is simply having knowledge

01:52:39.000 and wisdom is the ability to apply the knowledge that you have.

01:52:43.000 So maybe.

01:52:45.000 So you're able to apply things better, like Sam Harris.

01:52:48.000 I think you said he's all knowledge and no wisdom?

01:52:50.000 Not that extreme, but yeah, he's got a deficit in wisdom, at least he portrayed in the video.

01:52:54.000 No intelligence or wisdom at all.

01:52:55.000 Hundred zeros!

01:52:56.000 Yeah, no, it's not that extreme, but he's definitely out of balance.

01:52:58.000 Well, I think we all know people who can quote really interesting things or recite studies or do math in their head, but if you drop them in the middle of anywhere, they would not be able to find their way home because they have no common sense or they're just not able to use the knowledge that they have to make make their life go forward I guess.

01:53:15.000 I found with weed and meditation, it's a good combo, because when I would smoke, it would be, I would get, my thoughts would race, so it was more challenging to meditate, and when I could, if I could do it with THC in my system, I was way easier to do it without it, all of a sudden.

01:53:29.000 All right, Brian Cooper says, fifth paid comment, will you read it?

01:53:32.000 Y'all are against gender surgeries, yet y'all remain quiet about circumcision.

01:53:36.000 In fact, you endorse Judaism, Tim. 0.81

01:53:38.000 I don't remember ever specifically endorsing Judaism.

01:53:40.000 Like, that sounds very strong.

01:53:42.000 I will also mention we haven't had any news stories about the prominence of political controversies surrounding circumcision, but I'm against it. 0.93

01:53:50.000 Oh really?

01:53:50.000 I just, it happened to me, but I mean, I don't know.

01:53:52.000 What are you, what are your, what's your experience with circumcision?

01:53:55.000 Do you think of it as like mutilation?

01:53:56.000 I mean, you're a medical doctor.

01:53:57.000 Yeah, no, it's interesting.

01:53:59.000 So there are some areas that I've...

01:54:00.000 Yeah, I'm the father of three boys.

01:54:02.000 So there's some areas that I've studied sort of more deeply in and some that I haven't.

01:54:08.000 I just want to add one more thing about marijuana.

01:54:09.000 So there's an old paper in I think the journal Science or Cell that basically exposes brain cells to a few different chemicals.

01:54:22.000 Ketamine is one of them.

01:54:23.000 I think THC is another one.

01:54:25.000 Anyway, these chemicals are neurotoxic.

01:54:28.000 So that's just, I mean, just to kind of keep that in mind too.

01:54:31.000 Again, things that aren't really discussed, but stuff that's not great for brain cells.

01:54:37.000 With circumcision, it's interesting.

01:54:39.000 I know that there are individuals that feel very strongly that it's harmful to the development of babies.

01:54:48.000 It's definitely painful.

01:54:49.000 There's no question about that.

01:54:51.000 On the other side, there's pretty good research that shows that it reduces the risk of sexually transmitted illnesses when people get older.

01:55:01.000 So does marriage.

01:55:04.000 That also reduces it and abstinence also reduces it, Tim, while we're talking about, you know.

01:55:08.000 Well, I mean, I just, I think it's interesting, you know, I don't, I don't see that as a, I understand it to be true.

01:55:14.000 I just don't see it as an argument for the practice.

01:55:16.000 Like, well, when he's older, he can sleep around, you know what I mean?

01:55:19.000 Yeah, I don't either.

01:55:19.000 I mean, I think this is kind of a uniquely American debate because we have a blend of cultures in America, whereas like if you are European, like both my parents are European-descended immigrants, you know, it's not a question because culturally it's not as normal for them.

01:55:35.000 I remember my parents like having this, telling me they would have this discussion with their friends and being like, it had never even crossed their mind to get a child circumcised because it's just culturally not normal.

01:55:46.000 I've got this theory that when it happens, it exposes the nerves at the end of the penis, basically, you know, and then makes people more sensitive to sex and then more aggressive.

01:55:55.000 It actually cuts like half the nerves off.

01:55:58.000 Are you saying that this is where the testosterone is going?

01:56:00.000 I don't know.

01:56:01.000 I think it might make people more aggressive in later life because of that.

01:56:04.000 It's like a sensitive trauma that they deal with.

01:56:07.000 But you're saying it actually diminishes sensitivity?

01:56:10.000 I don't know.

01:56:10.000 It was just a theory.

01:56:11.000 Cuts most of the nerves off.

01:56:13.000 All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:56:14.000 says, wisdom is not fighting an alligator underwater.

01:56:17.000 That's right.

01:56:19.000 But what is wisdom is not?

01:56:21.000 Yes, you have, but what is?

01:56:22.000 I like that their wisdom is the application of knowledge.

01:56:25.000 If you can, but the problem is, if you're if you don't have high intelligence, you get the knowledge wrong, and then you apply it properly, but you got the wrong piece.

01:56:33.000 Corn says, rip Emmy. 1.00

01:56:35.000 Ian, can I get some of your love for my brother Luke for the loss of his chocolate lab?

01:56:39.000 She was a great dog.

01:56:40.000 Yeah, Luke, you got this.

01:56:41.000 Today's gonna be really good.

01:56:45.000 You guys, all of that, you know what I say about losing a dog is all that pain you're feeling is all of the love for your dog being expressed all at one time.

01:56:55.000 And you're gonna remember that feeling forever.

01:56:58.000 So it's a good thing.

01:56:59.000 If you didn't feel that way when your dog passed, it would mean that your dog wasn't, you know, wasn't that important.

01:57:05.000 That feeling is like all of that love and everything just coming together at that one moment.

01:57:11.000 So it's a beautiful sadness, right?

01:57:14.000 Yeah.

01:57:15.000 Would you, you know, the question is when you think about it like pain, it's like, Oh, okay.

01:57:20.000 Think about it this way.

01:57:21.000 We can make all that pain go away.

01:57:23.000 Just never have had the dog.

01:57:24.000 How does that sound?

01:57:25.000 And it's like, no, absolutely not.

01:57:27.000 Of course.

01:57:27.000 Right?

01:57:28.000 The pain of your dog passing, it sucks because your dog is passing, but it's a, it's a, it's a good expression.

01:57:33.000 It's, it's, it's like all the goodness is here.

01:57:36.000 You can feel it all at once.

01:57:37.000 Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.

01:57:42.000 All right, Kevin Clark says, is Tim trying to say his T levels are too high to worry about a helmet?

01:57:47.000 Or is the lack of a helmet supposed to raise his T levels?

01:57:49.000 Both! 0.92

01:57:50.000 I wear half a helmet on one side of my head.

01:57:53.000 That way if I fall on one side, I get lucky, and the other side, I die.

01:57:57.000 Thank you, I love the gamble.

01:57:59.000 You know, I only really wear it now when I'm going on the vert wall.

01:58:02.000 It's like, again, not the biggest vert wall.

01:58:03.000 It's just, it's seven.

01:58:04.000 So it's a seven foot vertical transition.

01:58:06.000 But if I'm like eight or nine feet up and I'm looking down, most of the time, 99.9% of the time, it's just, you're fine.

01:58:13.000 You fall, you slide or whatever.

01:58:15.000 I don't have knee pads on either though.

01:58:17.000 But you know, whatever.

01:58:18.000 Wear a helmet when you're going way up there.

01:58:21.000 Perhaps we should.

01:58:22.000 He says, hey Tim, James Shaw is running for commissioner of agriculture in Florida.

01:58:26.000 He's an organic farmer and two-way supporter running against an establishment politician.

01:58:29.000 P.S.

01:58:30.000 Did you get salty cracker on the show?

01:58:32.000 Perhaps we should.

01:58:33.000 Perhaps we should.

01:58:35.000 Same with New York.

01:58:36.000 Really?

01:58:37.000 Oh, that'll be interesting.

01:58:39.000 Trump endorsed some of those New York Democrats.

01:58:42.000 Be interested to see if they can pull off a victory with his endorsement.

01:58:44.000 Make him proud.

01:58:46.000 They're gonna win, and then Trump's gonna be like, my endorsements are now, you know.

01:58:49.000 See how great they are?

01:58:50.000 Yeah, like, I'll get them right.

01:58:52.000 Well, he like endorsed Nader.

01:58:55.000 Garnet says, Lex Freedman got a KGB defector who became an American.

01:58:59.000 He counters Yuri Bezmenov because Yuri was in India, not in the US.

01:59:03.000 Get that guy in the show from Lex.

01:59:05.000 Oh, that'd be interesting.

01:59:08.000 All right, let's see.

01:59:08.000 We'll grab one more here from Waffle Sensei.

01:59:11.000 He says, wisdom is animal handling, insight, medicine, perception, survival, and whatever else the DM allows you to add your proficiency bonus to.

01:59:18.000 See, there you go.

01:59:18.000 Bluff.

01:59:19.000 Yeah, I think bluff might be a wisdom check as well.

01:59:21.000 You can tell when someone's lying and you can lie yourself.

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01:59:43.000 Joe, do you want to shout anything out?

01:59:44.000 I hear you got a book.

01:59:45.000 Yeah, I do.

01:59:46.000 I do.

01:59:47.000 I've written a book.

01:59:48.000 It actually comes out tomorrow, Tim, called Transcend Fear.

01:59:52.000 And it's about, you know, just really briefly, personally for me, you know, I It's like a miracle that I'm in the position that I'm in and it started with a traumatic event that I had when I was a kid and long consequences of that that went on for years.

02:00:18.000 until I fell in love with my wife and had to actually sort of face them because one

02:00:24.000 of the things about love, all of us, you know, many of us have different types of traumatic

02:00:29.000 events in our past and all of us experience daily stress and all of these things affect

02:00:35.000 how we show up in the world.

02:00:36.000 and...

02:00:37.000 And for me, when I fell in love with my wife, it was sort of like a volcano erupting because one of the things about love is that it forces things to the surface.

02:00:51.000 And so the things that don't work in your life, well, if you fall in love, you can't just kind of keep them in the closet.

02:00:58.000 And that led to, you know, sort of a journey with my wife where I was driving her nuts, and she referred me to different people, and I finally met a guy named Christopher Mayher, who's a former Navy SEAL.

02:01:11.000 And he used techniques from Chinese medicine, stuff related to meridians, stuff related to qi and the flow of energy, things that, like, and what that translated into is kind of physical manipulations, verbal stuff, lots of different things.

02:01:28.000 And I experienced a priceless transformation that basically let me do what I did in terms of the communication, the thinking, the clear thinking, other things that led to what I'm doing now and will lead to heaven knows what.

02:01:46.000 Next, but you know, but that's really the core of the book.

02:01:50.000 I talk about kind of leadership and making decisions under uncertainty and kind of how why decisions were wrong and should have been recognized as being wrong at the time they were made.

02:02:02.000 and how leaders can avoid making similar blunders that are quite costly in the future.

02:02:10.000 So that's the book.

02:02:10.000 It's called Transcend Fear.

02:02:12.000 Tim's gonna put it up on the internet thing.

02:02:16.000 You can tell that I'm a real savvy.

02:02:18.000 Where do you get your book?

02:02:19.000 Where can you order from?

02:02:20.000 You can get it from the evil Amazon or I think Barnes and Nobles and I don't know.

02:02:25.000 The less evil Barnes and Noble.

02:02:27.000 Yeah, right.

02:02:29.000 And the slightly less evil.

02:02:32.000 But yeah, that's right.

02:02:33.000 Right on.

02:02:34.000 We'll put it in the clips so people can have the link.

02:02:37.000 Thank you.

02:02:37.000 Yeah, sounds good.

02:02:38.000 That's awesome.

02:02:39.000 I definitely want to read that.

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