Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Fauci Leaks Go Viral, PROVES He Lied, Rand Paul Was RIGHT w-Jack Posobiec

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00:00:04.000 You know Rand Paul Must be having a really good day.

00:00:33.000 I can only imagine that when the news broke about Fauci's emails getting leaked, he started, you know, jumping up on his desk and then shuffle dancing, and then jumped back down to tweet, told you so.

00:00:44.000 And that was just it.

00:00:45.000 And I saw the tweet from Rand Paul, and he's like, told you so, fire Fauci!

00:00:48.000 And I'm like, what told you so?

00:00:50.000 What was told?

00:00:51.000 I don't know what the emails contain.

00:00:53.000 Rand, tell me more!

00:00:55.000 An email January 31st, 2020 to Anthony Fauci suggested that researchers believed, at the time, that COVID was engineered.

00:01:05.000 It is only now, about a year and a half later, Fauci says he's not convinced that COVID was naturally occurring and lab leak theory is becoming more prominent.

00:01:13.000 It's a very, very strange set of circumstances.

00:01:16.000 And while it may be that the initial assessment was it looks engineered and then later on

00:01:19.000 they changed their mind, when you also learn that Fauci was sending emails about gain of

00:01:24.000 function research and then telling Rand Paul, we don't do this, you are incorrect.

00:01:29.000 And then, yeah.

00:01:31.000 And then, so he was talking about it, he didn't understand the context.

00:01:35.000 And then he gets an email apparently from the guy from EcoHealth saying, thank you for

00:01:37.000 shutting down this conspiracy theory.

00:01:40.000 Just sounds a whole lot like he's hooking up his buddy who is being implicated in the

00:01:44.000 the research that may have led to this lab leak and cost a lot of lives.

00:01:48.000 So we're going to jump into this.

00:01:50.000 We got a bunch of other news too.

00:01:51.000 A disaster has been declared on the southern border of Texas.

00:01:54.000 Governor Abbott says that Joe Biden's open borders policies are just causing drugs and gangs.

00:01:59.000 And where's Joe Biden?

00:02:01.000 What's he doing?

00:02:02.000 Making things worse, I guess.

00:02:03.000 Well, we are being joined today by the Jack Posobiec.

00:02:07.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you that I've heard about this chat going on asking about my stance on cargo shorts.

00:02:15.000 And I'm here to tell you folks that cargo shorts in the Postal Republic will get you sent straight to jail.

00:02:21.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:02:23.000 When I'm Supreme Chancellor, cilantro, fennel, gone.

00:02:27.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.

00:02:27.000 Wait, cilantro?

00:02:28.000 Believe it or not, jail.

00:02:30.000 That's the problem with cancel culture.

00:02:31.000 It never stops.

00:02:34.000 I will lead the cilantro uprising.

00:02:36.000 Cilantro, fennel, caraway, anise, celery.

00:02:43.000 Celery is a jail sentence.

00:02:45.000 Cilantro is a garnish, though.

00:02:47.000 It's not a meal, it's a garnish.

00:02:48.000 Yeah, but they put it in every... It's like, no, don't put it on my stuff.

00:02:51.000 I don't like it.

00:02:51.000 It doesn't taste good.

00:02:52.000 You can ask for no cilantro.

00:02:53.000 Like, I'm not a sour cream guy, but I just need no sour cream.

00:02:56.000 Like, I'll go to a Mexican restaurant and they're like, oh, it's all pre-made. 1.00

00:02:58.000 Oh.

00:02:59.000 You know what I like?

00:02:59.000 What are you going to premade places for though?

00:03:01.000 That's on you.

00:03:02.000 That's on you.

00:03:03.000 You go to a place where they make it in front of you.

00:03:04.000 And I'm always like this.

00:03:05.000 I'm always like extra onions.

00:03:06.000 Yes.

00:03:07.000 Extra lemon juice.

00:03:08.000 Oh yeah.

00:03:09.000 And no cilantro.

00:03:11.000 I want my cilantro.

00:03:12.000 I'll pay extra.

00:03:12.000 I don't even care.

00:03:13.000 You can stuff it in a tube and then filter water through the tube and even like fecal contaminated water and it'll drip out clean fresh water and then...

00:03:22.000 Just grow it in your backyard?

00:03:23.000 What places do you go and eat?

00:03:26.000 Cilantro's out.

00:03:28.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:03:29.000 I'll compromise.

00:03:30.000 We'll ban cargo shorts if you agree to throw cilantro.

00:03:35.000 What is this?

00:03:39.000 Partisan politics?

00:03:40.000 Sorry about that, sweetheart.

00:03:41.000 Tony's gonna be mad at me for that one.

00:03:43.000 In 50 years, like somehow, by some twist, the timeline actually is you're in charge of the Republicans, I'm the Democrats, and we're like, we agree and shake hands.

00:03:50.000 It's like Tip O'Neill and Reagan back in the day.

00:03:53.000 Like, yes, now let's go drink our fecal juice.

00:03:56.000 Everyone's confused as to what this has to do with anything.

00:03:59.000 Right, exactly.

00:04:00.000 No, because we'll have solved everything else.

00:04:01.000 These will be the only two remaining issues that are outstanding.

00:04:04.000 It's like an artistic choice.

00:04:05.000 Yeah, I love it.

00:04:06.000 All right, we got to... I think Ian is chilling.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, I am.

00:04:08.000 Thank you, Tim.

00:04:09.000 Yes, hello, Ian Crossland up in this house.

00:04:11.000 Good to be here.

00:04:11.000 Hi, Jack.

00:04:12.000 Yep.

00:04:12.000 Correct.

00:04:13.000 I'm very excited.

00:04:13.000 Jack is here for our 300th episode.

00:04:16.000 I'm not sure if this is momentous.

00:04:18.000 My third appearance on the 300th episode.

00:04:21.000 Wow.

00:04:23.000 That's fortuitous.

00:04:24.000 Absolutely fortuitous.

00:04:24.000 I love it.

00:04:25.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 You look like Leonidas.

00:04:27.000 I feel like Leonidas.

00:04:27.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:04:28.000 Yeah.

00:04:28.000 The whole dying part.

00:04:31.000 And you like kicking the messenger into the pit.

00:04:31.000 Yeah.

00:04:34.000 I'll do that all day long.

00:04:34.000 Yeah.

00:04:34.000 No, no.

00:04:35.000 Especially if he's wearing cargo shorts.

00:04:36.000 He's wearing cargo shorts.

00:04:37.000 Yeah.

00:04:37.000 All right.

00:04:37.000 Are we good?

00:04:39.000 Lydia's here.

00:04:40.000 She's pushing buttons. 1.00

00:04:40.000 I am. 1.00

00:04:40.000 Yes, I am. 1.00

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00:05:58.000 Check this out.

00:05:59.000 Is there news today? Was there anything that came out today?

00:06:02.000 Yes. Well, it's new.

00:06:02.000 Something a little bit. Is that making news? The north, east, west and south. North, south,

00:06:06.000 south. There'll be news every day. That's right. Fauci was warned that COVID-19 may

00:06:11.000 have been engineered emails show. The New York Post reports Dr. Fauci was warned.

00:06:16.000 The coronavirus has possibly been engineered and appeared to be taking reports about it seriously.

00:06:21.000 At the same time, he was publicly downplaying the notion of the virus being created in a lab, according to his emails.

00:06:26.000 Meanwhile, Fauci, America's top expert in infectious disease, also got a personal thank you for backing the natural origin theory from the head of a non-profit that used a $3.4 million government grant to fund research at the Chinese lab suspected of creating the virus.

00:06:42.000 On January 31st, 2020, more than two months before the World Health Organization characterized COVID as a pandemic, Fauci sent an email to U.S.

00:06:50.000 virus researcher Christian Anderson and Sir Jeremy Farrar, who runs a global health charity in Britain.

00:06:57.000 Fauci forwarded them a copy of a Science Magazine article titled, Mining Coronavirus Genomes for Clues to the Outbreak's Origin.

00:07:04.000 This just came out today.

00:07:06.000 If not, it is of interest to the current discussion, wrote Fauci, the longtime head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.

00:07:06.000 You may have seen it.

00:07:14.000 Anderson, who runs a viral genomics lab at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California, wrote back.

00:07:20.000 The problem is that our phylogenic analyses aren't able to answer whether the sequences are unusual at individual residues, except if they are completely off.

00:07:29.000 The unusual features of the virus make up a really small portion of the genome, less than 1%, so one has to look really closely at the sequence to see that some of the features potentially look engineered.

00:07:40.000 Anderson also noted that he and others, quote, "...all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory," but added, quote, "...there are still further analyses to be done, so those opinions could still change."

00:07:54.000 Just two days later, on February 2nd, Farrar sent a brief email to Fauci and other U.S.

00:07:58.000 health officials in which he asked for a conference call later tonight or tomorrow to discuss their response to a pending announcement from the World Health Organization.

00:08:05.000 Farrar then added, meanwhile, in a link to an article at the Zero Hedge website, with the headline, quote, Coronavirus contains HIV insertions stoking fears over artificially created bioweapon.

00:08:16.000 Fauci responded that email by forwarding the email chain to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, and asking, do you have a minute for a quick call?

00:08:25.000 The 3,200-plus pages of Fauci's emails posted on Tuesday by BuzzFeed, which they got through a FOIA request, also show that he and Collins corresponded in April 2020 about Fox News reporting on increasing confidence that the virus COVID-19 started in a Wuhan lab.

00:08:39.000 In an April 16, 2020 email to Fauci and other U.S.

00:08:42.000 health officials, Collins sent a link to a Mediaite report about a discussion on Fox News' Hannity program.

00:08:49.000 Colin's email bore the subject line, conspiracy gains momentum.

00:08:54.000 But its entire contents were blacked out, other than the link and his name at the end.

00:08:58.000 Fauci responded to Colin's email, but whatever he wrote was also blacked out.

00:09:02.000 Meanwhile, two days after Colin sent his email, Fauci received a message from Peter Daszak.

00:09:09.000 A zoologist and president of the EcoHealth Alliance, quote, I just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID-19 from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:09:27.000 From my perspective, your comments are brave, and coming from your trusted voice will help dispel the myths being spun around the virus's origins.

00:09:35.000 The next day, Fauci wrote back, many thanks for your kind note.

00:09:38.000 Last year, the Wall Street Journal reported that EcoHealth Alliance used its NIH grant to study coronaviruses in Chinese bats and sent the Wuhan lab just about $600,000.

00:09:48.000 The five-year grant was renewed for a total of $3.7 million in 2019, but it was cancelled in April 2020 under President Trump on the grounds the research didn't align with the NIH's program goals and agency priorities.

00:10:00.000 During April 2020, Fauci repeatedly made public statements suggesting the coronavirus was the result of an unusual human-animal interface in a Chinese wet market and that the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now totally consistent with a jump of a species to animal to human... Okay, okay, I gotta stop.

00:10:17.000 I think the evidence is clear.

00:10:19.000 Fauci knew there were suggestions from researchers that he had contacted that this was engineered.

00:10:26.000 The guy he knows, the guy he was providing funding, says thanks for dispelling the myths.

00:10:32.000 Where did Fauci come up with the wet market, with the unusual bat-to-human transmission of this virus? 1.00

00:10:37.000 They were literally doing bat coronavirus research thanks to the money that was sent to EcoHealth Alliance.

00:10:44.000 I mean, to me, it sounds clear cut.

00:10:46.000 Fauci, did he make up the story about the wet market?

00:10:49.000 Well, so the story of the wet market didn't start with Fauci.

00:10:51.000 It starts with the CCP.

00:10:52.000 This was the Chinese government's main line that they were pushing forward.

00:10:57.000 They were the ones who were putting it out there.

00:10:59.000 They were the ones that were talking about this wet market.

00:11:02.000 They were spreading these videos.

00:11:04.000 You remember the bat soup? 1.00

00:11:05.000 They actually had this influencer apologize for doing a bat soup, you know, sort of like you know, TikTok video and starting this trend. 1.00

00:11:12.000 And so this was all coming from this fear of the Chinese government.

00:11:18.000 Right. Which we probably should have questioned.

00:11:20.000 And obviously we did question very early on to say, why are we trusting the CCP when we know that the CCP

00:11:27.000 denied that this thing was going on?

00:11:29.000 They denied human to human transmission until literally the point that they couldn't deny it anymore.

00:11:33.000 They were locking up doctors.

00:11:35.000 They were doing everything they could to hide this information from coming out.

00:11:38.000 But then we just accept their narrative for how it got out.

00:11:41.000 Hold on a second. So.

00:11:42.000 So Fauci contacts virologists in Britain who say it looks engineered.

00:11:48.000 Then he sees on the TV from CCP media, it's a wet market, and he goes, it's clearly the wet market.

00:11:54.000 And then he goes on TV and says, well, you know, that's the wet market.

00:11:56.000 There you go.

00:11:57.000 Do we believe that?

00:11:58.000 Do we trust that?

00:11:59.000 So there's also an email in there in these early days.

00:12:02.000 We're talking, remember, January, February of 2020.

00:12:05.000 So this is sort of that early time.

00:12:07.000 where we're all asking questions.

00:12:09.000 And we all, of course, can see the proximity of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:12:13.000 And we're, you know, asking very, very rational questions, rational concerns of, hey, this is really close to a huge bio lab.

00:12:21.000 What's what's going on with that?

00:12:22.000 You know, what's going on with the bio lab across the street from the wet market?

00:12:27.000 Can we can we see this thing?

00:12:29.000 And especially for even if even if someone I lived in China for two years, but even if someone doesn't know the geography of China that well, Wuhan is about a thousand miles away from Kunming, where these bats actually reside, and where these main caves are that they study the coronaviruses, because it's this one huge system of caves in Yunnan province, or Yan'an province, where they found a lot of this, where miners have gotten sick, and all the rest of it.

00:12:57.000 Who's doing the most traveling between those caves in Wuhan?

00:13:00.000 Well, of course it would be the researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:13:02.000 Oh, come on, Jack.

00:13:03.000 It was clearly the poor wet market, you know, salesmen who traveled by foot with buckets of bats for a thousand miles and back to sell at the Wuhan wet market.

00:13:11.000 Or the diseased bat just flew from the caves all the way to Wuhan.

00:13:11.000 Right, right.

00:13:16.000 Didn't get anyone sick in between the 1,000 miles that it traveled.

00:13:20.000 Didn't stop off, you know, you know, like when geese fly south and they stop in my lake.

00:13:23.000 No, no, no.

00:13:24.000 It's not like that.

00:13:25.000 No, they flew directly to that wet market.

00:13:28.000 Why?

00:13:29.000 Because it was deliberate.

00:13:31.000 The bats were just like, yo, we're in it.

00:13:33.000 And then it just traveled a thousand miles.

00:13:35.000 We gotta strike back.

00:13:36.000 Let's go to that one.

00:13:40.000 I think, you know, at the time, we didn't have the information we have now.

00:13:42.000 Look, look, these are reasonable questions, and it's kind of silly, and that's why we're making jokes about it, because you look at the early days of it, and Fauci's concerns, and you look at some of the concerns about these emails that are coming in, specifically when he's talking about the WHO, they're talking about Tedros, who is the head of the WHO, and they want to get their talking points straight.

00:14:03.000 They want to get this public narrative, this public opinion push straightforward.

00:14:07.000 There's no questions about You know, you'd expect that from the bureaucracy standpoint, that if you're, you know, if this is the movie version of it, right, that the scientists go, you know, get me on the phone with Wuhan.

00:14:18.000 What were you guys doing up there?

00:14:20.000 What came, what was happening in that lab?

00:14:21.000 Or, you know, even on the flip side of that, again, if you take their stated purposes for conducting these experiments as, hey, we're doing research into coronaviruses, a lot of them come out of China, so it makes sense to do the research there because we want to get ahead of there being a pandemic.

00:14:38.000 Well, wouldn't it then follow that you're calling Peter Daszak and you're calling your Chinese colleagues to say, hey, is this similar to anything you've seen?

00:14:44.000 Do you have anything that could maybe give us a jump on creating some kind of treatment for this thing that you guys may have, you know, come across in the course of your decade plus long research there?

00:14:53.000 Which was the purpose of the research.

00:14:55.000 To be fair, we did a really good job.

00:14:55.000 That was the stated purpose of the funding.

00:14:57.000 That was the stated purpose of all these approvals through EcoHealth Alliance.

00:15:00.000 You don't see any of that going on whatsoever.

00:15:03.000 What do you see?

00:15:03.000 These emails about talking points, the emails about narrative, and then the emails from Peter Daszak.

00:15:08.000 Thank you so much for dispelling these myths.

00:15:10.000 To be fair, you know, we, we, we did a really good job.

00:15:13.000 Um, we know that Fauci was providing funding to EcoHealth Alliance who are using that funding for gain of function

00:15:20.000 and research at the Wuhan lab.

00:15:21.000 So who would be better to choose to go and do the investigation?

00:15:25.000 other than the guy who runs Eagle of the Lines.

00:15:28.000 Clearly, he's the expert.

00:15:29.000 We have investigated ourselves.

00:15:30.000 And he went there and they found nothing wrong.

00:15:32.000 And found that we did nothing wrong.

00:15:34.000 Exactly.

00:15:35.000 See, he's the most qualified because he's literally doing, look, he's literally doing the research at the Wuhan lab.

00:15:41.000 Why would you pick someone else?

00:15:42.000 He can recognize it, can't he?

00:15:44.000 He's the one who knows.

00:15:45.000 He can walk in and say, see, we're not funding and doing in a function research area.

00:15:50.000 Nothing to see, you know?

00:15:51.000 So he's the president of EcoHealth Alliance?

00:15:53.000 Is that this guy?

00:15:54.000 Yes.

00:15:54.000 So the guy who is getting paid by Whoever, Fauci or the U.S.

00:15:58.000 government, to do research on bat coronaviruses, sent an email to Fauci thanking him for dispelling the myth that it came from a research laboratory.

00:16:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:07.000 It just came from across the street.

00:16:08.000 But then you have to fast forward, too.

00:16:10.000 So it's nine months later when the WHO, and this is what Tim is referring to, when the WHO sends their team into the Wuhan lab.

00:16:17.000 Remember, it was this big thing.

00:16:18.000 Oh, the WHO team is going.

00:16:19.000 WHO team is going.

00:16:20.000 Who was the leader of that team?

00:16:22.000 Wow.

00:16:23.000 Peter Daszak, the head of EcoHealth Alliance.

00:16:26.000 The same guy.

00:16:27.000 And he, as I mentioned, he has the most experience.

00:16:30.000 So obviously when the Lancet went to do their investigation, well, of course we got to send Peter Daszak as well.

00:16:35.000 He has the most to lose, so you should let him, let him take control of the situation.

00:16:40.000 No, no, no, he's the expert.

00:16:41.000 Like Ian.

00:16:41.000 If I was going to investigate whether or not you were, you know, stealing cookies from the cookie jar and bringing them into your bedroom... Well, I think you should let me do that investigation for you.

00:16:49.000 I should let you because... You should let Ian investigate.

00:16:51.000 You would know if you were eating the cookies.

00:16:52.000 I know where to look.

00:16:53.000 You know your schedule, you know your pattern of life, you know your movements, right?

00:16:57.000 Dude, they actually let the fox in the hen house.

00:16:57.000 Can't lie to myself.

00:17:00.000 That's literally what they did.

00:17:00.000 Twice.

00:17:01.000 And then what's funny is, so did Trump.

00:17:03.000 Fauci's the guy who approved the funding and lets this, it's absolutely remarkable.

00:17:08.000 Well, and not only that, and this is, you know, I know I'm like supposed to be like Mr, you know, pro-Trump guy, but it actually is under Obama that gain of function is shut down, right?

00:17:18.000 They put a ban on gain of function through NIH.

00:17:21.000 And it's in the early days of the Trump administration that, now keep in mind that guys at the NIH, you know, this is a fiefdom, right?

00:17:27.000 So Collins, and so what people don't understand is that Collins is essentially Fauci's boss, right?

00:17:32.000 You know, Fauci's actually not the head of the entire NIH.

00:17:35.000 That's Collins.

00:17:36.000 So Collins and Fauci in the early days of Trump, you know, kind of during that transition period, they get this gain-of-function pause lifted.

00:17:45.000 They get the ban lifted.

00:17:46.000 And this is where, and you can see in some of these emails, they're talking about the P3 framework.

00:17:50.000 Well, what's the P3 framework?

00:17:52.000 This is supposed to be that if there's anything that comes up for approval in terms of these experiments that seems like it's crossing into that territory that could be gain-of-function, that it'll go through this review process and they bring in outside experts, they bring in this sort of like cadre to look at it and make sure the safeguards are followed, etc, etc.

00:18:11.000 Okay, that was never done.

00:18:13.000 And there's actually an email from Fauci where he's attaching One of the studies was in your article there, but it's another email that's out where the study is talking about gain of function and Fauci sending it to one of his assistants saying, Hey, was, was this one of the things that we, that we funded?

00:18:27.000 And then he responds and he responds and says, well, I don't think so because I don't see anything in the P3 database.

00:18:32.000 So it doesn't look like we approved it.

00:18:34.000 Because they didn't, it was approved through Peter Daszak, and it was approved through EcoHealth Alliance.

00:18:38.000 And so it didn't go through the review process because it wasn't done directly by NIH.

00:18:42.000 And this, again, you know, having spent time working in the federal government, having spent time working in that bureaucracy, you understand, these guys are bureaucrats.

00:18:50.000 Keep in mind, Anthony Fauci is our number one paid, highest paid federal employee, right?

00:18:56.000 You don't get to that point if you are not good at the game, if you are not good at civil service.

00:19:01.000 So, you know, do I think he's this like Machiavellian, string puller, puppet master behind the scenes?

00:19:08.000 You know, I do think he wants to be seen as this sort of like Eminence Greece.

00:19:08.000 No.

00:19:12.000 I have to, you know, credit to Rahim Kassam for giving me that one.

00:19:15.000 But sort of like, you know, the the power behind the throne that he wants to be seen as that guy.

00:19:20.000 But I think at the end of the day, he's an institutionalist and he wants to protect the institution.

00:19:23.000 Let's talk about the politics here now.

00:19:25.000 So we got the story from the Courier-Journal.

00:19:27.000 Senator Rand Paul claims vindication, fundraisers, off of new Anthony Fauci emails.

00:19:34.000 Rand Paul questioned Fauci and said... What did he ask him?

00:19:37.000 Like, do you support the... Do you still support... He said, were you conducting gain-of-function research?

00:19:44.000 I thought he said, like, do you still support... And then Fauci is like, that is... Senator, that is incorrect!

00:19:49.000 Entirely and completely!

00:19:52.000 Absolutely incorrect!

00:19:54.000 No gain-of-function research was done.

00:19:56.000 That's not true.

00:19:57.000 Well, and that whole interchange is amazing because if you go back and watch it, it's he denies that it ever took

00:20:04.000 He denies any of this funding in Wuhan.

00:20:04.000 place.

00:20:07.000 So Rand Paul pushes him a little bit more on it.

00:20:09.000 And then he starts defending why they funded experiments in Wuhan in the same exchange.

00:20:14.000 To be fair, I think it's self-evident that he was lying.

00:20:17.000 And I wonder if when Dasik, the Ecohub Alliance guy, is, you know, talking to him on the phone or whatever the communications they were having outside of email, he's like, this is really bad that we're, you know, our research may have caused this.

00:20:30.000 We need to get in control of this.

00:20:32.000 So Fauci goes on TV and what dispels the myth, they say.

00:20:36.000 And look at how early, right?

00:20:38.000 You look at how early those emails are.

00:20:40.000 You look at how early that conversation is.

00:20:42.000 Was it February or March?

00:20:43.000 This is like the very start and we're told dismiss, not a thing.

00:20:47.000 Don't worry about it.

00:20:48.000 Washington Post is running headlines.

00:20:50.000 Debunk, debunk, debunk.

00:20:51.000 Why is debunk?

00:20:51.000 Because Fauci said so.

00:20:53.000 So I'll say, you know, because I take the more hyperbolic stance of saying it proves Fauci lied, these emails.

00:20:59.000 Because, in my opinion, I think Fauci's playing semantics.

00:21:03.000 Yes.

00:21:04.000 I think he's playing semantics to try and get around the fact that he lied to Rand Paul.

00:21:08.000 Under oath, by the way.

00:21:10.000 Many people are saying it was perjury.

00:21:10.000 Under oath.

00:21:12.000 And when he dismissed gain-of-function research, even though the people he sent the article to were like, oh yeah, it looks engineered.

00:21:18.000 So he's lying.

00:21:20.000 I think on top of this, Fauci was probably sweating bullets.

00:21:24.000 You hear news about this COVID thing and he's probably going like, who did we fund?

00:21:29.000 And then he calls EcoHealth Alliance and he's like, what did you guys do?

00:21:32.000 Okay, you've got to find that email from his assistant then because that's what they say.

00:21:36.000 Do we have some link, some distance link, that's the phraseology they use, distant link to this work abroad.

00:21:45.000 So it's like they do everything they can to not use the word Wuhan or Wuhan Institute of Virology, but it seems like they know that there is an issue going on here.

00:21:54.000 And by the way, this whole thing, I should mention this, right?

00:21:57.000 You know, talking about emails and FOIA, this is why Hillary had set up that server, right?

00:22:00.000 Because she knew Foyle getcha!

00:22:03.000 Foyle getcha!

00:22:03.000 If you're a little loose, loosey-goosey with that stuff, and apparently that's what was going on here.

00:22:08.000 In my opinion, and that email shows it, Fauci was probably, you know, pulling his collar going like, oh man, if this was one of our programs, and how many people died?

00:22:17.000 Millions?

00:22:18.000 Was it like three something million?

00:22:19.000 Three and a half million.

00:22:19.000 Three and a half.

00:22:20.000 Oh yeah.

00:22:20.000 And that's because he funded this research?

00:22:22.000 Now, they're not going to blame him directly, because he provided funding to an organization who provided funding to a Wuhan lab.

00:22:29.000 But it's still this is this is the you know the classic Michael Crichton You know from ology of it where you know you you you only focused I'm gonna butcher the line But you know you only focused on what you could do and you never thought about whether or not you should right yeah, yeah, yeah, so Fauci And he has that op-ed now that that's coming out.

00:22:48.000 I think it's from 2012 Where he was asked about the dangers of gain-of-function research, and what did he say?

00:22:55.000 He said, even if it does escape the lab and cause some kind of... It's worth the risk.

00:22:58.000 It's worth the risk.

00:22:59.000 It's worth the risk.

00:23:00.000 And so this is what gets me back to my initial statement, though.

00:23:04.000 My thesis is, where are these emails?

00:23:06.000 And it's possible that this was on a different, you know, okay, those were, you know, maybe that was classified, maybe that was done on a higher server because of communication.

00:23:15.000 There's all sorts of reasons that something would be classified, right?

00:23:18.000 And that it wouldn't show up in FOIA.

00:23:20.000 I was never NIH, so I don't know whether or not they operate under a classified system.

00:23:24.000 But I understand that if you know, obviously, something is at the secret level or TS level, it's not going to be coming out in the FOIA.

00:23:29.000 That being said, he easily could have come out and said, Yeah, we were looking into this.

00:23:36.000 And oh, by the way, here are the top 10 things we found in Wuhan that are similar to this.

00:23:41.000 This is just like that study that you know, Shi Zhengli, the bat woman, and she came up with this study from A year ago that these spike proteins, that's exactly what we looked at. 0.94

00:23:50.000 And here's, you know, here's this plan on the shelf.

00:23:52.000 So the idea behind all of this, or at least sort of the, you know, the raison d'etre was that there would be an on the shelf plan or game plan for, okay, we we've, this is the one that's crossed over to the human population.

00:24:05.000 This is the coronavirus that made it.

00:24:06.000 It was this variant.

00:24:07.000 So we've studied it.

00:24:08.000 We have an understanding of how it works.

00:24:10.000 These are the best things to use against it, right?

00:24:12.000 That was the entire point.

00:24:14.000 Where is that work?

00:24:15.000 Where is any of that?

00:24:16.000 After a decade, what were they doing?

00:24:19.000 What did they ultimately develop?

00:24:20.000 And it seems to be a whole lot of nothing.

00:24:23.000 And it comes up in ventilators, and remember the ventilators are the big thing.

00:24:27.000 And then Matt, do masks work?

00:24:29.000 He tells them when they don't work, then he comes out saying that, well, we should anyway, because of, you know, the percentages in terms of the population.

00:24:29.000 Do they not work?

00:24:35.000 And so you're looking at this going, well, wait, you know, just based on what you're saying, You know, the whole point of funding Wuhan, the 2012 op-ed, was that we would have some, you know, early warning system in place.

00:24:50.000 I pulled up the article.

00:24:52.000 So it was a it was a 2011 article, I believe.

00:24:54.000 The New York Post reports Fauci once argued for risky viral experiments, even if they can lead to a pandemic.

00:25:00.000 And now the article from Washington Post, it's actually you search for Google and it pops up because so many people are clicking on it.

00:25:07.000 But I want to make one point I've made a couple of times in the past couple of weeks.

00:25:10.000 Initially, Fauci said, don't wear masks.

00:25:13.000 And he does this interview on 60 Minutes, came out in March, and he was like, masks are for people who are infected, to stop them from infecting others.

00:25:20.000 Right now, people should not be wearing masks.

00:25:23.000 It might stop a droplet, but, you know, we don't, you shouldn't be walking around.

00:25:28.000 And then in the email that everyone's sharing, it's from February, he says basically the same thing to someone who asked for advice.

00:25:33.000 Here's the problem with this.

00:25:34.000 Fauci comes out in July and says, I said that because we knew our medical professionals needed the PPE because they're the ones who have to deal with sick people.

00:25:44.000 But Fauci said masks don't protect you from sick people.

00:25:48.000 So why would the medical professionals need it?

00:25:50.000 They're not going to get the sick person sick, and it's not going to prevent them from getting sick.

00:25:55.000 But medical professionals still need them, I guess, in general.

00:25:57.000 Okay, fine, that's fair.

00:25:59.000 It's like, why does the x-ray technician stand behind the thing?

00:26:03.000 Because they're the ones there all day.

00:26:04.000 Right.

00:26:05.000 So you have doctors with the masks because they're treating the sick people.

00:26:09.000 Did Fauci not consider that if people wore masks they wouldn't spread the virus and then the doctors wouldn't need as many masks because they wouldn't be working long hours with sick people? 0.99

00:26:18.000 You see the problem here is either Fauci's a real moron because he doesn't understand cause and effect. 0.90

00:26:25.000 We'll tell everybody not to wear masks because we and he says on 60 minutes the mask will stop an infected person 0.99

00:26:31.000 from infecting others Then he tells everyone don't wear the masks because the

00:26:34.000 doctors need them to treat you when you get sick because no one was wearing

00:26:37.000 masks Meanwhile, the the spread is continuing throughout the

00:26:41.000 population Which means that a higher percentage of doctors of course

00:26:44.000 is going to need them So it is this sort of interesting thing

00:26:48.000 Where you get into and you know Thomas all rates about this where there are certain people who it seems that when they

00:26:53.000 when they?

00:26:54.000 think about problems they take out that human element.

00:26:58.000 That element of human nature, that element of, you could get into a whole like liberal conservative kind of thing about this where, you know, look, I would love to live in this world where it's just it's utopia and everybody shares things, but human nature is real and you can't get away from that.

00:27:12.000 And, you know, this genius is why Fauci commands, what, like $430,000 a year from the federal government?

00:27:19.000 More than the president.

00:27:20.000 He gets paid more than the president.

00:27:22.000 That's incredible.

00:27:22.000 More than the president, yeah.

00:27:23.000 Certainly more than the last president.

00:27:25.000 Yeah, well, Trump was giving away a salary, but the president gets $400,000.

00:27:29.000 I actually made more than the last president.

00:27:30.000 There you go.

00:27:31.000 Like, everyone gave me more than the last president.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, because he was giving himself a dollar.

00:27:35.000 I think he legally had to do $1 or something.

00:27:37.000 He would donate it.

00:27:39.000 And then he would still donate that dollar.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, so for all of this, for all of this genius, Fauci gets all that money.

00:27:48.000 So I saw you tweet, you said that they're actively planning an exit for the guy?

00:27:53.000 Yeah, so I got a message late last night, and of course I was up watching Batman cartoons.

00:28:01.000 Which Batman cartoons?

00:28:02.000 Actually, Batman versus Robin.

00:28:03.000 So I'm getting into like the old, like the standalone movie series that came out, um, I guess from like the 2015 era.

00:28:10.000 And now that I've built the suspense up, let's go back to.

00:28:12.000 Yeah.

00:28:13.000 So it was a bad movie.

00:28:15.000 Robin was actually really good.

00:28:16.000 I like totally got sucked in.

00:28:17.000 I hadn't watched it and then it was on my plaque.

00:28:19.000 So it was like, Oh, check this out.

00:28:20.000 And it's like, really?

00:28:21.000 And my kid didn't like it.

00:28:22.000 Cause it's like, it's like much more adult.

00:28:24.000 Everyone's on the edge of their seats right now going, just tell us what happened!

00:28:29.000 But basically they said, look, because the emails came out from BuzzFeed, right?

00:28:36.000 They can't put it in that sort of bucket of, oh, that's conservative media, right?

00:28:42.000 It came out from BuzzFeed.

00:28:43.000 The Washington Post apparently had a similar FOIA, so they came out as well.

00:28:46.000 And so it had to be something that they responded to.

00:28:50.000 He's got a book for the good doctor.

00:28:51.000 thing now obviously they're talking about multiple angles on this but they're

00:28:55.000 saying you know what maybe since this thing is winding down we can look at a

00:29:00.000 potential exit strategy he's got a book for the good doctor does he have a book

00:29:04.000 does he because so we saw that Fauci essentially this announcement came out

00:29:10.000 about a Fauci book but then I went on Amazon later later this afternoon and

00:29:15.000 the listing was gone Totally gone.

00:29:17.000 Well, people were saying, you know, is he is he profiting from the pandemic?

00:29:21.000 This seems unseemly.

00:29:22.000 They were making comparisons to Andrew Cuomo.

00:29:25.000 So, you know, so it's like, you know, it's like woke, downplay the virus, you know, broke, downplay the virus, woke, fund Wuhan, bespoke, put the actual, you know, infected patients in the nursing home.

00:29:38.000 So that's Cuomo.

00:29:39.000 He's even next level.

00:29:40.000 So, you know, I don't know if it's that.

00:29:42.000 I don't know.

00:29:43.000 It could also be a legal thing, right?

00:29:44.000 He's still a federal employee.

00:29:46.000 But it does definitely seem like there's something going on and that his tenure may be coming to an early close.

00:29:52.000 Did you see how BuzzFeed framed the emails?

00:29:56.000 How Fauci was trying to keep things together in a time of chaos.

00:30:00.000 My favorite is CNN.

00:30:02.000 It's a complete hagiography.

00:30:06.000 We're not going to discuss anything that's actually in the emails, but you know the fact that he was able to respond to so many emails while he was so busy.

00:30:15.000 There he is, Dr. Fauci, exhausted, late into the night, responding to email after email.

00:30:21.000 Just a wonderful, wonderful man for this frank honesty.

00:30:26.000 And then I'm like, why didn't they frame it like the New York Post did?

00:30:28.000 Like, early emails suggest Fauci knew the potential for a lab leak, COVID being engineered.

00:30:37.000 Because it feels like CNN is sort of the last legacy media outlet that is really on this sort of Fauci train that we know.

00:30:45.000 This is a government employee, right?

00:30:49.000 He's a bureaucrat.

00:30:50.000 He's a leader.

00:30:51.000 We should be skeptical of all government employees and government officials.

00:30:55.000 But we don't need to hold them up as some sort of paragon of wisdom and the Oracle of Delphi or something like this.

00:31:05.000 He's a government guy.

00:31:06.000 But CNN is still on that train.

00:31:08.000 They're still trying to sell the Fauci merch.

00:31:09.000 They're still trying to do all this.

00:31:11.000 Even BuzzFeed has turned.

00:31:12.000 I'm thinking to myself, why would they publish any emails at all?

00:31:14.000 Because many of them make them look bad.

00:31:16.000 And then try and frame the story as a positive.

00:31:18.000 Not to mention the implications of Mark Zuckerberg.

00:31:21.000 So Zuckerberg's emails are interesting.

00:31:24.000 A lot of the Peter Daszak stuff was actually kind of out there already.

00:31:30.000 So me looking at it was like, well, you know, we kind of knew this, but it is nice to have that confirmation.

00:31:35.000 Because again, it becomes one of those things.

00:31:37.000 you know, sort of the journalistic game of, you know, it's not what you know, but it's what you

00:31:40.000 can prove in court. So the fact that you have the emails now where they are discussing gain of

00:31:44.000 function, huge, huge, monumental, right? And just in terms of newsworthiness, but in terms of the

00:31:49.000 overall story, it just kind of fills in those gaps that we basically all suspected to begin with.

00:31:53.000 But the Zuckerberg stuff is super interesting to me, because when you when you look at

00:31:57.000 the whole situation of not just Zuckerberg and Fauci, right?

00:32:02.000 But you look at Zuckerberg from his perch throughout 2020, right?

00:32:08.000 And so there he is talking to Fauci in the beginning of 2020.

00:32:12.000 Hey, how can we help?

00:32:13.000 And I do think he probably meant that in, you know, from coming from a good place.

00:32:13.000 How can we?

00:32:17.000 I do want like he does want to help, you know.

00:32:19.000 So he goes to Fauci and Fauci is telling him, oh, we need the social distancing and that eventually it becomes lockdowns and Facebook is pushing those.

00:32:26.000 And then later on, when the lockdowns are coming, say, oh, we're locked down.

00:32:29.000 How are we going to have an election?

00:32:30.000 And who is it that comes in?

00:32:32.000 And so many people have reported on this, that it's it's these foundations that are then set up and funded by Zuckerberg Chan to help with the election in many of these cities and many of these Typically trending blue areas.

00:32:43.000 Also Zuckerberg.

00:32:44.000 And it's kind of one of those things where you really look back and we say, do we as a society want any one person, right?

00:32:52.000 William Randolph Hearst is a great example.

00:32:55.000 One unelected person to have that level of influence in our country.

00:32:58.000 No, especially with Hearst.

00:33:00.000 It's pretty obvious what he did with to marijuana and his tree paper mill industry.

00:33:05.000 I don't know if you're much familiar with Hearst, but he's like a paper magnet and all these newspapers decided he didn't like the competition of people growing hemp and making like parchment out of hemp.

00:33:14.000 So he started printing all this propaganda about why hemp was so dangerous and driving people insane and use this propaganda paper to And Zuckerberg is doing the modern version of this, where you go on Facebook and you say, these opinions aren't allowed.

00:33:27.000 These opinions are.

00:33:29.000 And then you hire thousands of people.

00:33:30.000 And to bring it full circle, what were those opinions a year ago?

00:33:34.000 Oh, you couldn't talk about LabLeak.

00:33:36.000 You couldn't talk about LabLeak.

00:33:37.000 I mean, there's still a bunch of stuff you can't say.

00:33:38.000 I don't even know.

00:33:40.000 I'm sitting here waiting.

00:33:41.000 YouTube will eventually ban us, I guess.

00:33:42.000 Steven Crowder was talking about CDC numbers and YouTube gave him a strike.

00:33:47.000 I hadn't heard that, really.

00:33:49.000 Seriously?

00:33:52.000 No, no, no, I think that was the first one.

00:33:56.000 They had a warning before, he got a strike, then he got a warning, then he got a strike over the CDC, and then the second strike, I think, was because they were saying that the police were justified in the shooting of Micaiah Bryant, and YouTube was like, you were celebrating it, so then they had taken off.

00:34:11.000 But the first strike, When he mentioned that he was talking about CDC guidelines, and he said some specifics, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he was basically just saying, like, here's what CDC says, here's what we think, YouTube, game is strike four.

00:34:22.000 Right, and to your point, this is the problem, right?

00:34:24.000 This is the problem with allowing these social media platforms to be arbiters of truth, because they become arbiters of discussion.

00:34:30.000 And at the same time, going back to the FOIAs, now that we see the Fauci leaks, now that we see the emails in there, he's having the exact same discussions internally that people were trying to have on social media.

00:34:46.000 Zero Hedge, of course, was sort of the canary in the coal mine of this, because they're one of the very first places that was publicly talking about the Wuhan lab.

00:34:54.000 They were zapped permabanned on Twitter for this.

00:34:57.000 Now they were reinstated.

00:34:58.000 But when that first came out, that sent a people talking about the repercussions.

00:35:02.000 No, no, no.

00:35:02.000 Oh, that was just your head.

00:35:03.000 What were the repercussions of that?

00:35:04.000 What was the secondary and tertiary effects?

00:35:06.000 Everyone was basically told the message was sent.

00:35:09.000 This topic is verboten.

00:35:11.000 You are not speaking about this.

00:35:13.000 This is like talking.

00:35:14.000 This week is the Tiananmen Square anniversary of the massacre June 4th.

00:35:17.000 So it's like talking about Tiananmen Square in China.

00:35:20.000 If this is done, you will be disappeared.

00:35:22.000 That's the message it sent to everyone.

00:35:24.000 That's the freakiest thing about cancel culture is not only is it top down authoritarian, you're banned, but it's that people become afraid of even mentioning it.

00:35:32.000 So it's like the grassroots effect of cancel, you know, just like canceling yourself before you even begin.

00:35:37.000 Well, if you talk to people who who are from the Soviet Union, my wife is from the Soviet Union.

00:35:41.000 She was born there.

00:35:43.000 You realize that because you don't know where the rules are, you don't know where the fault lines are, you don't know where the ideological landmines are, you know, am I supposed to like this person or hate this person, that kind of stuff, the only way to really be safe is to not have opinions.

00:35:58.000 Right?

00:35:58.000 Is to not question anything, not have opinions on things.

00:36:02.000 It's to shut down in a very internalized way.

00:36:05.000 So the overall, you know, the final end state of cancel culture is that you're cancelling your own mind.

00:36:10.000 You're cancelling your own opinions.

00:36:11.000 You're cancelling your individuality.

00:36:14.000 And that's, and it's internal.

00:36:15.000 The censor is actually in, you don't need, you know, the ministry of truth because that's just in your head every day.

00:36:21.000 That really disturbed, that really disturbs me because then they're removing themselves.

00:36:25.000 It doesn't have to be the government.

00:36:27.000 It doesn't have to be Facebook.

00:36:28.000 It doesn't have to be Twitter.

00:36:28.000 I'm not saying Tanya, by the way, I'm not saying Tanya is like that, you know.

00:36:31.000 Believe me, she's been to America a lot.

00:36:35.000 She makes her opinions known and she speaks her mind quite often.

00:36:39.000 Remember that photo from, it was the Soviet Union and there's like Stalin, he's on a boat and there's a guy next to him.

00:36:46.000 But then like all of a sudden there's another photo and there's like no guy next to him.

00:36:49.000 What was that called?

00:36:50.000 Do they have a name for that, or a word for what they were doing with history?

00:36:53.000 I mean, so airbrushing.

00:36:54.000 Back in the day?

00:36:56.000 Yeah, airbrushing.

00:36:58.000 One thing, it reminds me of something I heard from a North Korean defector once, who was talking about this situation, and he said, you know, and it's not as nice as the way Solzhenitsyn would put it, but the defector said, look, We know that they're lying about the United States. 0.53

00:37:14.000 We know that they're lying about the Western world.

00:37:17.000 We know that you're not just killing each other all the time, and it's like race war and racial strife constantly.

00:37:24.000 We know it's not like that, right?

00:37:26.000 And this chaotic situation.

00:37:27.000 But the problem is, because of the censorship, we don't know what the truth is.

00:37:32.000 So we don't know what it actually is like.

00:37:35.000 Because we have nothing to verify it on, we have nothing to Compare it to.

00:37:38.000 Let's talk about how scary things can really get.

00:37:40.000 I got the story from The Hill.

00:37:41.000 Washington Post issues correction on 2020 report on Tom Cotton lab leak theory.

00:37:48.000 Now that headline from The Hill is irresponsible in my opinion, because they did not issue a correction.

00:37:53.000 They issued what's called a stealth edit, which I'm sure many may be familiar with, but let me show you this tweet from Greg Price.

00:37:59.000 Greg is, uh, he just, he doesn't have a bio, but he's verified on Twitter.

00:38:03.000 That proves, that means everything.

00:38:04.000 Oh, Greg's a Daily Caller.

00:38:05.000 Daily Caller, there you go.

00:38:06.000 Yeah, he's great.

00:38:06.000 He's a good guy.

00:38:07.000 He tweets, democracy dies in stealth edits on 15-month-old headlines.

00:38:11.000 The first image, the Washington Post says, Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus conspiracy theory that was already debunked.

00:38:19.000 And now it reads, Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus fringe theory that scientists have disputed.

00:38:27.000 So what happens is, right now it's happening across the board on tons... He's been upgraded from debunked to fringe.

00:38:32.000 That's right.

00:38:33.000 Or from conspiracy to fringe, and debunked to disputed by scientists.

00:38:39.000 It's not the only outlet doing this.

00:38:41.000 Congratulations, Senator Cotton.

00:38:42.000 These news outlets are literally rewriting history.

00:38:45.000 They are.

00:38:46.000 Think about what it used to be like in the past.

00:38:48.000 A hundred years ago.

00:38:49.000 Oh, this is Winston Smith.

00:38:50.000 What is?

00:38:52.000 This is the plot of 1984.

00:38:53.000 Oh, there you go.

00:38:54.000 That's his job, right?

00:38:55.000 In the beginning, he's the guy who edits old newspapers.

00:38:55.000 Right.

00:38:58.000 But in reality, a hundred years ago, a newspaper would come out and it would say, you know, Jack Posobiec does backflip.

00:39:04.000 And you'd be like, there it is.

00:39:06.000 And there's a photograph of Jack doing this amazing backflip.

00:39:06.000 It's reported.

00:39:09.000 You should see my backflip.

00:39:10.000 It's fantastic.

00:39:11.000 Nowadays, There'll be an article on, you know, Washington Post's website, and it'll show the backflip, and then a month later, without anyone noticing, the article will be different, and it'll say, Jack Posobiec falls doing backflip.

00:39:25.000 And the photo is still there, but it looks a little different, or it's a different photo, or it's gone altogether.

00:39:30.000 See, back in the day, a hard copy wouldn't be changed.

00:39:33.000 They would have to issue a correction later on if they made a mistake, in the next paper.

00:39:37.000 Today, they don't even issue corrections, they just change the articles.

00:39:41.000 Now here's where it gets crazy.

00:39:42.000 Wikipedia, supposed to be this great encyclopedia of the modern era, right?

00:39:47.000 How many articles on Wikipedia use that Washington Post story that says, debunked conspiracy?

00:39:54.000 The story's different now.

00:39:55.000 Do we go and delete all those encyclopedia entries that are now incorrect?

00:40:00.000 This is a huge problem with how we are collecting and disseminating information in today's era.

00:40:07.000 News organizations can just change what they said a year and a half later, and then our encyclopedias don't make sense anymore.

00:40:14.000 Because if someone were now to write an article related to COVID, they could use this article, the same link, to make a different point.

00:40:23.000 They could say, you know, it was a fringe theory.

00:40:25.000 Scientists dispute it, while, as another article says, it's a debunked conspiracy theory.

00:40:29.000 So these inconsistencies will start popping up the more and more they do this.

00:40:32.000 And to piggyback on what you're saying, Let's say you've been living under a rock, right?

00:40:38.000 For the longest time, you're just someone who's like total normie, not interested in any, for whatever reason, you're not interested in COVID-19.

00:40:45.000 You know, but you want to learn about it now.

00:40:46.000 You say, what's this lab leak theory people are talking about?

00:40:48.000 I want to dig into it a little more.

00:40:50.000 And they say, oh, Cotton brought it up and it was disputed back then.

00:40:52.000 But that's not true, right?

00:40:54.000 So if the Washington Post wanted to tell the truth, they could have said, yes, it was considered a conspiracy theory when it was first talked about.

00:41:01.000 However, over time, It gained traction.

00:41:03.000 And here's why it gained traction.

00:41:05.000 And here's the actual story of it.

00:41:07.000 But this is the problem because they don't set themselves up as... I mean, think about it.

00:41:12.000 You don't have to have a position on anything anymore, right?

00:41:14.000 Because your position is we are the truth.

00:41:17.000 And so if we are truth, then whatever truth is can become a moving target.

00:41:22.000 Instead of it being what the truth is, we will report?

00:41:26.000 What they're saying now is what we report is the truth.

00:41:29.000 Is the truth, right, exactly.

00:41:30.000 So it doesn't matter what really happened, it just matters what they decide to put on paper.

00:41:34.000 That's a huge problem.

00:41:34.000 And that's a problem.

00:41:36.000 It has been that way to an extent for a long time, but now stealth editing has become so widespread.

00:41:43.000 And when it comes to very serious historical moments like this, this is actually really scary.

00:41:48.000 You know why?

00:41:49.000 If we're not collecting information in any other capacity, I mean, I suppose we have archives.

00:41:55.000 We have, uh, you know, Archive.is.

00:41:56.000 We have the Wayback Machine.

00:41:58.000 What happens in 50 years?

00:42:00.000 In 100 years?

00:42:01.000 And they're like, what happened with COVID?

00:42:03.000 And they look back at all the articles and it says, lab leak was confirmed very early on.

00:42:07.000 Tom Cotton.

00:42:08.000 So, so right now it says Tom Cotton pushes fringe theory.

00:42:11.000 Great.

00:42:11.000 In a year, I'll say Tom Cotton pushes proven theory.

00:42:14.000 They're going to go back and rewrite history. 0.99

00:42:16.000 We knew the whole time Tom was right.

00:42:19.000 So what happens in 100 years?

00:42:20.000 History will be dramatically different.

00:42:22.000 We witness it.

00:42:23.000 We witness the media lying.

00:42:25.000 But future generations are gonna look back at the archives and they're gonna be like, they were always right.

00:42:29.000 See?

00:42:30.000 Washington Post wrote, Tom Cotton is correct about lab leak theory.

00:42:33.000 That's what the headline says now.

00:42:34.000 And they rewrite the story.

00:42:35.000 Why change it?

00:42:37.000 Why not just put, like, you know, The Guardian does this, a thing up here that says, this article is three years old.

00:42:41.000 Right, yeah, I actually like that, even though I don't like The Guardian.

00:42:44.000 Right, I agree.

00:42:45.000 But I actually like that they put that up because even if, it's one of the things where, you know, someone will do this on Twitter to get retweets sometimes, where they'll post, like, an old article, but they'll make it seem as if it's breaking.

00:42:59.000 Yeah, you know what I'm talking about?

00:42:59.000 I hate that.

00:43:00.000 And then it starts getting shared a lot.

00:43:02.000 Well, and I don't know if Guardian was thinking about this, and sort of the social media interplay where people only read headlines anymore, because that's what's happening more and more, is that when you do click it the first time, that it'll show, hey, just so you know, big blinking letters, this thing is several years old, this information could be out of date.

00:43:20.000 And by the way, that's okay!

00:43:22.000 Because things change in life, right?

00:43:25.000 You know, stories have a beginning, middle, and end.

00:43:27.000 Sometimes they keep going.

00:43:28.000 Sometimes you get the MCU and there is no story.

00:43:30.000 All right.

00:43:31.000 Oh! 0.60

00:43:33.000 We got jokes, folks.

00:43:33.000 We got jokes.

00:43:35.000 Or you get The Simpsons, where it just kind of like trails off into the oblivion.

00:43:39.000 But, you know, it allows you to sort of understand this.

00:43:43.000 And this is a plot in actually a lot of movies, where you're going through the microfiche and you're understanding, oh, so this happened here, and then this happened, and then you're able to weave the narrative together.

00:43:53.000 If you don't have that, then how do you figure out anything?

00:43:56.000 What I really love about this media phenomenon is that there are a lot of organizations that will do an aggregation of, say, the AP or Reuters.

00:44:03.000 And so it'll just say, like, Yahoo News, and then it'll say New York Post.

00:44:06.000 I find this all the time, because Yahoo News will pick up a lot of stories.

00:44:10.000 Yeah, Yahoo News is really weird like that.

00:44:11.000 And because they have some that are internal, but a lot that are from somewhere else.

00:44:17.000 And it'll just say New York Post.

00:44:18.000 So what's funny is the New York Post will put out a story and then issue a correction.

00:44:22.000 And Yahoo News will run the uncorrected, the false version.

00:44:26.000 And they both simultaneously exist as certifiable, credible organizations for Wikipedia's editors and NewsGuard certified.

00:44:37.000 So you can literally just pick which narrative works best for you, I suppose.

00:44:41.000 then.

00:44:42.000 Choose your own reality.

00:44:43.000 Well, as we know, people choose news, which confirms their bias.

00:44:46.000 So the conservatives will find the corrected piece and go, oh, right there, and they'll

00:44:48.000 post it on Facebook.

00:44:50.000 And the Democrat liberals and those in the leftists will be like, oh, right there, the

00:44:53.000 Yahoo version, they'll post it.

00:44:55.000 And now you have two versions of the same story.

00:44:57.000 I'll tell you what, though, man.

00:44:59.000 It really does feel like... There was an article written in American Greatness by... Man, I'm forgetting the guy's name.

00:45:07.000 But he writes that the Democrats have already seceded from the Union, talking about the crazy things they're doing.

00:45:13.000 They don't believe in the history of this country.

00:45:14.000 They don't believe in the rule of law.

00:45:16.000 They've intervened in the Chauvin trial, demanding violence.

00:45:19.000 Clearly, they're not working in the same capacity as we are.

00:45:23.000 By the way, did you see Chauvin?

00:45:26.000 He said, I want a new trial, number one, but number two, I should only get probation because the system is completely broken.

00:45:33.000 Yep.

00:45:34.000 Well, so this is interesting.

00:45:36.000 I remember the Sondland hearing, probably the most important example of what's happened to this country. 0.96

00:45:42.000 I can't remember where the image is from, but I think it was at the gym.

00:45:48.000 And there's two TVs side by side.

00:45:50.000 There's Fox News and there's like ABC.

00:45:52.000 This is the first impeachment.

00:45:54.000 This was Ukrainegate. 0.94

00:45:55.000 Yeah, so that was the first impeachment.

00:45:57.000 One that we don't even talk about anymore.

00:45:59.000 Sondland said, Donald Trump told me no quid pro quo.

00:46:05.000 But I kind of felt like there was one.

00:46:07.000 So Fox News, the chyron says, Sondland, quote, Trump said no quid pro quo.

00:46:13.000 On the TV to the left of it, Sondland confirms quid pro quo.

00:46:18.000 How can we function as a country when people are like, Fox News is lying, it's fake news?

00:46:22.000 I'm like, but they quoted the guy.

00:46:24.000 They quoted Sondland what he was saying.

00:46:26.000 And then they're like, but ABC News, they get to the truth.

00:46:29.000 And then conservatives look at it and they're like, that's a quote.

00:46:31.000 If you can take one sentence and turn it into two completely opposite news stories, and it results in people at each other's throats, mass conflict in the streets, riots, I don't see how we come back from that.

00:46:44.000 Well, and the problem is, and it's something that, you know, you've talked about a ton, but I think we've all experienced it, where so many of these outlets have gotten away from, hey, we're not going to be arbiters of truth, we're going to be arbiters of narrative, because we're chasing an audience.

00:46:59.000 And we're chasing clicks.

00:47:00.000 Have you seen the Project Veritas deposition of Loren Windsor?

00:47:04.000 No, I haven't seen that.

00:47:05.000 So, I don't know the full context.

00:47:07.000 It's just one of the clips I saw from James O'Keefe.

00:47:10.000 They put out talking about, you know, suing the New York Times and all that.

00:47:12.000 Right.

00:47:13.000 And they asked this woman, and I may be getting this wrong, so just double check and go watch the video, but they said something like... James will sue us all if we get it wrong.

00:47:20.000 No, they know it's... But the lawyer asks this woman, Why didn't you include this video in what you were producing?

00:47:30.000 And she just shrugs and goes, because it wasn't necessary for the narrative we were trying to produce.

00:47:35.000 And I hear that and I'm like, the narrative you are trying to produce.

00:47:40.000 That's crazy.

00:47:41.000 Well, you talk to, you can figure this out if you go to any journalism school, right?

00:47:45.000 And talk to any student there, you know, we should get like FLECAS or somebody or Campus Reform to do one of these, you know, sort of man on the street interviews with journalism school students and people studying that major if they have any, you know, if we go back to campus learning.

00:47:59.000 And ask the question then again of, why are you going to journalism school?

00:48:04.000 Why do you want to be a journalist?

00:48:05.000 The answer, I guarantee you 90% because I want to change the world.

00:48:09.000 I want to change the world because I want the world to be a better place.

00:48:11.000 I want this.

00:48:12.000 I want that for the world.

00:48:13.000 And I want that power of journalism to get me there.

00:48:15.000 Okay, great.

00:48:16.000 But that's not journalism.

00:48:17.000 No, that's activism.

00:48:18.000 You saw that woman from the AP who got fired? 0.78

00:48:22.000 The pro-Palestinian woman? 0.73

00:48:24.000 So this woman gets hired by the AP, then she starts complaining there's a right-wing smear campaign against her. 1.00

00:48:29.000 Not just pro-Palestinian, by the way.

00:48:31.000 She was like the pro-Hamas in some cases.

00:48:33.000 Like anti-Israel.

00:48:34.000 Yeah, very anti-Israel.

00:48:35.000 But for me even, right?

00:48:37.000 I'm not going to even play the political argument.

00:48:39.000 I'm going to tell you why she should have been fired, period. 1.00

00:48:41.000 So whether or not you want to get into her politics or anything like that, there's one simple fact.

00:48:46.000 She gets hired by the Associated Press.

00:48:48.000 There's a bunch of people complaining she's pro-Palestine, she's anti-Israel.

00:48:53.000 And she argues these were past tweets, and the left says they're old tweets, it shouldn't matter.

00:48:58.000 I said, why does she want to be a journalist when she is an advocate for one side of a conflict? 1.00

00:49:05.000 What was the point of her trying to get that job?

00:49:07.000 The AP was right to fire her and they should have never hired her.

00:49:11.000 Someone comes to me and says, Hey, I'd like to report on the southern border crisis.

00:49:16.000 I'd be like, I'm down.

00:49:17.000 We could use some reporting.

00:49:18.000 And then I see in their Twitter, it's all just vitriol about Trump and, you know, and the kids in cages.

00:49:24.000 I'm going to be like, I don't think you're actually going to report on this.

00:49:28.000 If I want to hire an activist to do advocacy, I will.

00:49:30.000 I want to see a report from someone who's, like, dry and says, I spoke with the president's administration, you know, Tom Homan said X, Y, and Z, though the activist organizations say A, B, and C. I'll be like, okay, that's reporting.

00:49:41.000 Instead, what's happening is activists are trying to get jobs at news organizations.

00:49:44.000 They've succeeded greatly.

00:49:46.000 And now that she got fired because she's an activist, and the AP said she tweeted after the fact.

00:49:51.000 I looked at her current tweets.

00:49:53.000 Yeah, she's retweeting people who are very pro-Palestine.

00:49:56.000 Like, how can anyone expect to get legitimate news from someone who was advocating for an outcome in the conflict?

00:50:02.000 She's going to tell you bad information. 0.70

00:50:03.000 But the activists are claiming it's free speech under attack and it's a right-wing smear campaign because they are subversive and trying to inject activists into media because they know if you control the narrative, you control what people have access to, if they don't know the truth, they can't fathom the truth.

00:50:19.000 If the only thing they hear is your propaganda, they will side with you.

00:50:23.000 They've been doing it for a long time, and it's working.

00:50:26.000 It's one of the times they failed, and they only failed... I don't even think they failed because of Ben Shapiro.

00:50:31.000 They're like, it's Ben Shapiro's fault!

00:50:33.000 You know, he was smearing this journalist!

00:50:35.000 Like, oh, well, I mean... The AP said it was unanimous.

00:50:40.000 They looked at her tweets and said, nah, you can't work here. 1.00

00:50:43.000 You can't do that.

00:50:44.000 And the real question is, of course, you know, why did that not come up in the review process and the hiring?

00:50:49.000 So maybe I'm going to hire that person and not say, Hey, what did they put on social media?

00:50:54.000 Did we're going to talk about a specific issue?

00:50:56.000 I want you to report on this.

00:50:58.000 What's your past work on that?

00:50:59.000 You know, let's, let's see, let's, let's see your reel.

00:51:01.000 You know, if I'm, if I'm getting someone in, you know, um, you know, in terms of videos, like, Hey, let me, let me see your reel.

00:51:06.000 Let me see your sizzle reel.

00:51:07.000 What, what, what do you got, what do you got for me?

00:51:07.000 Right.

00:51:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:51:10.000 So you're, you're completely in the tank for this one side.

00:51:12.000 Got it. 0.99

00:51:12.000 Think about how, in my opinion, you'd have to be really dumb to even consider doing this. 0.99

00:51:18.000 Let's say this person who is, you know, anti-Israel, pro-Palestine says, I want to be a journalist and I'm going to go and I'm going to report from this place. 0.86

00:51:27.000 It's like, what do you think is going to happen if some of these like very strong results of the other side get wind of your reporting?

00:51:34.000 You got, you got, AP says, we'd like you to go and interview this Zionist extremist.

00:51:39.000 Really out there guy.

00:51:41.000 Street, you know, group of people.

00:51:42.000 They're going through the streets and they're angry and crazy.

00:51:45.000 And then this journalist is going to show up and they're going to be like, we looked at your Twitter history.

00:51:50.000 You think that you're going to engage in propagandizing for one side of a conflict and be able to go and interview the other side?

00:51:58.000 They're going to be like, you're clearly not my friend.

00:52:01.000 Well, first of all, you can't get the interview, so even if it was just activism, but let alone the fact that you might actually be perceived as a belligerent, like actually coming to do them harm.

00:52:11.000 Now, that's mostly true of Antifa and what we've seen in New York and stuff.

00:52:14.000 It's typically not the Israeli groups, the pro-Israel groups that are going around attacking people, so I'll make sure that's clear.

00:52:21.000 But you can't expect to do an interview at all.

00:52:23.000 If a journalist shows up and tries to interview someone on the right... Well no, and shameless book plug, but I just did the Antifa book, it just came out, antifabook.com, but we get into this where Julio Rojas from Town Hall, where he would go and...

00:52:37.000 He's at these events and just trying to be there as media.

00:52:41.000 And he's like, I want to just interview people who are part of Antifa, who are trying to, you know, I did this myself in 2017.

00:52:49.000 Andy Ngo has gone out there.

00:52:51.000 You know, I hope everything's OK with Andy right now.

00:52:53.000 Of course, know that, you know, he's got a situation.

00:52:55.000 But was that him?

00:52:58.000 I don't know for sure if that was him.

00:53:01.000 He hasn't tweeted since!

00:53:03.000 Reportedly there's a situation, put it that way.

00:53:06.000 Regardless, hope he's safe.

00:53:08.000 I pray for the guy.

00:53:09.000 But you know that these Antifa groups, if they see you filming, regardless of who you are, unless they know, this is something that came up when I was in CHAZ, and if they don't recognize you and they know you by sight, or they've kind of seen you around the scene before, You know, have some kind of an idea of you or or most likely they've been following you on social media.

00:53:31.000 And so you're sort of an approved documenter.

00:53:34.000 They will get in your face.

00:53:35.000 They will put up umbrellas.

00:53:36.000 They will attack you.

00:53:37.000 They will assault you. 0.95

00:53:38.000 They will milkshake you.

00:53:39.000 They will, you know, try to push you down concrete steps like they did to me at the Lincoln statue.

00:53:44.000 last year. So if you are identified as someone who's seen as a conservative, or even someone

00:53:50.000 who's just not on our team, right, you are pushed out, you are not allowed to do anything

00:53:56.000 with this. And this is actually they handed. So with Julio in his situation, this is in

00:53:59.000 DC, I believe, they actually handed him a list of if you're going to cover us, you have

00:54:04.000 to follow all of these rules.

00:54:06.000 You can't film something where someone's committing a crime.

00:54:11.000 You can't film anyone's faces if their mask comes off.

00:54:14.000 You can't film if anyone has their phone out.

00:54:16.000 Any of these different things that could possibly identify them, right?

00:54:19.000 And they are setting these.

00:54:20.000 And so the question then becomes, if you are someone who considers yourself a journalist and you're going in and embedding or at least getting close to these events, are you following those rules?

00:54:28.000 And if you're doing so, then are you taking their side?

00:54:30.000 Of course.

00:54:31.000 You're working for them. 0.98

00:54:32.000 You're licking their feet. 0.97

00:54:34.000 I'll tell you a story.

00:54:35.000 I went to Boston, and there was a right-wing, pro-right-wing thing.

00:54:38.000 I think it was like 2018.

00:54:39.000 And there was a left-wing, counter-Antifa group shows up.

00:54:42.000 The first thing I have to point out, what were the right-wing individuals holding?

00:54:48.000 They were all holding some kind of object.

00:54:50.000 They were holding shields.

00:54:52.000 What were the Antifa people holding?

00:54:53.000 What do you think?

00:54:55.000 Two by fours.

00:54:56.000 Clubs, crowbars, bats, two-by-fours.

00:54:59.000 And so I'm like, clearly someone's come here to fight and beat people, and clearly someone's here seeking to defend themselves.

00:55:05.000 But something interesting happened.

00:55:06.000 There was an individual who looked like a lefty, but was a journalist, taking pictures of both sides, but was wearing some LGBT pride stuff.

00:55:17.000 And they went over to take photos of the right-wing group.

00:55:22.000 Some guy, a couple guys on the right started screaming, you know, FU, Antifa, and the three percenters who were there immediately ran up and stopped the right wing guys and told them to shut up, back off, and let them take photos.

00:55:33.000 Really?

00:55:33.000 Yeah.

00:55:34.000 There were several periods where the right were trying to get rowdy and the three percenters immediately told them to back off and were screaming at them.

00:55:39.000 So the three percenter guys that were there were just wearing, like, they didn't have any weapons.

00:55:44.000 They were wearing, like, some kind of light tactical gear, but didn't really have much with them.

00:55:48.000 And they were telling people on the right to chill out, back up, get away.

00:55:52.000 So when someone from the left would come over, they would immediately turn around and tell the right to chill out.

00:55:56.000 I think that was the right move because I'd imagine these guys on the right would pummel one of these Antifa guys pretty bad.

00:56:02.000 They were by themselves walking over, you know what I mean?

00:56:05.000 So what do I see when I walk over to the Antifa side?

00:56:08.000 And I'm not dressed like a right-wing guy.

00:56:10.000 I get a guy swinging at me. 0.96

00:56:12.000 He hits my phone a couple times, tries to get in my face, tells me to hit him.

00:56:15.000 And that's the difference between what happens when you go and try and report on these things.

00:56:20.000 The people on the right, I can walk into, you know, I go back to Occupy Wall Street era.

00:56:25.000 I show up at CPAC.

00:56:26.000 It was like 2012 CPAC.

00:56:28.000 And I'm walking around.

00:56:29.000 And literally nothing.

00:56:31.000 No problems.

00:56:33.000 Nothing happens.

00:56:34.000 People are like, how's it going?

00:56:35.000 Have a nice day.

00:56:35.000 That's it.

00:56:36.000 You show up to one of these Occupy protests.

00:56:38.000 Even when I was down there and half the people liked me, I still had Antifa attacking me.

00:56:43.000 I was physically attacked three times in New York during Occupy Wall Street proper.

00:56:48.000 Physically attacked by these people.

00:56:49.000 And they supposedly liked me!

00:56:51.000 So why would a journalist want to be involved in that?

00:56:55.000 You have to basically just tell them you have to say whatever they want you to say.

00:56:59.000 So you're not really doing reporting.

00:57:01.000 Well, so we get I get into this a little bit in my chapter as well, because when we when we talked about the journalistic

00:57:08.000 failures that were going on and actually Chief Carmen Best, who was this the police chief that resigned in Seattle, and

00:57:14.000 then Seattle in the wake of all this, and has said that it was like a disinformation campaign, because here's what

00:57:21.000 would happen is the dynamic was the media would go there.

00:57:24.000 Most of the mainstream media would go during that including Fox News would go there during the day.

00:57:28.000 Right, they would set up, they would have their huge cameras, their huge lights, they would do a hit.

00:57:33.000 And you know, during that time, you get like the day trippers, you get tourists, you get people just there with their kids walking around.

00:57:39.000 And it is sort of generally a sociable atmosphere, you know, people, the drugs are kind of, you know, freely going around.

00:57:46.000 Remember, that was the whole thing.

00:57:46.000 There's no police.

00:57:47.000 There was no police for 12 blocks.

00:57:49.000 So...

00:57:51.000 Then at night, all of those reporters would leave and they would go back to their hotels or go to the bar and drink craft beer or whatever.

00:57:57.000 They'd leave.

00:57:58.000 That's when all of the violence was going on.

00:58:00.000 That's when the Black Blocs would really start coming out in force. 1.00

00:58:04.000 That's when you actually saw criminal gang elements that had nothing to do with the social justice or Antifa aspects of this, but would come in because, hey, there's no cops here so we can go commit crimes and we can go do deals where we don't have to worry about being caught.

00:58:19.000 That's also where you then got those shootings.

00:58:21.000 There were five shootings on four separate occasions.

00:58:24.000 All throughout Chaz happened right after I left and I said, this is going to be a bubbling cauldron of violence. 0.99

00:58:31.000 I said that, you know, as we're walking out, I pulled my mask off and we kind of did like a live stream saying, you know, this is going to get bad.

00:58:38.000 Jenny Durkan, who was the mayor, now is not running again, by the way, in Seattle, because I think we know what happened there.

00:58:44.000 Um, it's, you had people dying, you had people being shot, you had people being killed, because, and reportedly this, the investigation is still open, but a lot of those early reports were that it was the CHAZ security, the John Brown Gun Club, that had actually been involved in some of these shootings, because they were, had this paranoid belief that, and, They were very specific about this, that the KKK was about to show up and raid CHAZ.

00:59:09.000 Not the Boogaloo Boys, not Proud Boys.

00:59:12.000 I mean, they knew who the Proud Boys were, but they were all certain that the KKK of Seattle, which apparently they think is a thing.

00:59:19.000 I've never heard or seen anything like that.

00:59:23.000 We gotta stop using their words.

00:59:25.000 It wasn't CHAZ security.

00:59:27.000 It was terroristic insurgents.

00:59:29.000 So what we often see with these conflicts is that the left will say it's George Floyd Square.

00:59:29.000 Precisely.

00:59:35.000 And then what happens is the media shows up and they film the peaceful inhabitants at George Floyd

00:59:40.000 Square, except for a couple of weeks ago when 30 gunshots ring out in the report.

00:59:44.000 When it was drive-by shooting square.

00:59:46.000 Exactly.

00:59:47.000 And so we keep referring to these things the way they demand they be referred to.

00:59:50.000 Well, this is why with the whole Chazz Chop thing, right? 0.99

00:59:53.000 So they realized very early on that Chazz was really, really bad branding in their part, right?

00:59:59.000 Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.

01:00:01.000 And the minute that media narrative got out and people said, wait, what do you mean you've declared yourselves autonomous?

01:00:07.000 You're autonomous from the United States?

01:00:08.000 You're your own country?

01:00:09.000 Within a couple of days, they get up.

01:00:12.000 No, no, we're just kidding.

01:00:13.000 We're actually the CHOP.

01:00:14.000 We're just, it's just an occupied protest.

01:00:17.000 We're trying to bring back some of that goodwill from, you know, Zuccotti Park and the original Occupy.

01:00:22.000 No, no, no.

01:00:23.000 But what did conservatives do?

01:00:24.000 A lot of conservatives adopted CHOP.

01:00:26.000 I never did.

01:00:27.000 I wouldn't even call it CHES.

01:00:28.000 I wouldn't even call it that.

01:00:29.000 What did you call it?

01:00:30.000 A no-go zone.

01:00:31.000 It was a no-go zone.

01:00:33.000 This was a far-left extremist no-go zone.

01:00:33.000 That's it.

01:00:36.000 You look at the definition of a no-go zone.

01:00:38.000 Look at the standard colloquial understanding.

01:00:40.000 It means a place where the police are reticent to go.

01:00:42.000 The medical professionals, EMS, police, they don't want to go there because it's too dangerous.

01:00:48.000 Individuals only enter with great personal risk.

01:00:51.000 That's exactly what these places are.

01:00:52.000 So we actually tracked one of the guys who was a member of this, or at least suited up to join the John Brown Gun Club in Chaz and Daniel Allen Baker.

01:01:01.000 This is a guy who was later arrested early 2021 down in Tallahassee, Florida.

01:01:06.000 Why?

01:01:06.000 Because he was planning a left-wing armed action at the Florida court, or excuse me, Florida Capitol, right?

01:01:14.000 Daniel Allen Baker.

01:01:16.000 He goes out there, travels from Florida to Chaz to create, to be this sort of militia security group.

01:01:22.000 Where did he have his training?

01:01:24.000 He's one of these Antifa guys that actually went to Syria to join the battlefield forces of the YPG.

01:01:31.000 This is the Kurdish group that's out there.

01:01:33.000 They're tied to the PKK, who are a terrorist designated group.

01:01:37.000 He's actually out there on the battlefield.

01:01:39.000 But of course, because they were fighting ISIS at the time, and you know, sort of more in fighting for the Kurdish areas, you get all these stories in Rolling Stone.

01:01:46.000 He's actually in one of the vice documentaries from Syria talking about how great it is that

01:01:50.000 these these left-wing just true believers are out here fighting for something fighting

01:01:55.000 for their own land, right?

01:01:56.000 It was almost sort of like they're trying to create this stateless space up there in

01:02:00.000 northeast Syria.

01:02:01.000 He comes back has the training from the battlefield has the TTPs.

01:02:05.000 He goes up there and Chaz and we've got these these quotes from him.

01:02:08.000 We've got tweets from him and he's saying look if we really want to have an autonomous

01:02:14.000 We've got to take this to the next level.

01:02:16.000 We need more guns.

01:02:17.000 We need explosives.

01:02:19.000 We need all sorts of things.

01:02:20.000 I'm quoting him, by the way.

01:02:22.000 And we need to take this to the next level because eventually the police are just going to come in here and shut this down.

01:02:27.000 But he was really pushing them to go for it.

01:02:30.000 Now, of course, we know that didn't happen.

01:02:31.000 But that very same guy claims, he claims, that he was one of the medics involved in one of these shootings.

01:02:39.000 The question is, of course, was he there as a medic or was he there as something else?

01:02:42.000 Or one of the people that stripped all the evidence out of the vehicle when they pumped it full of hundreds of rounds killing two teenagers.

01:02:48.000 Precisely.

01:02:50.000 They killed one that time.

01:02:51.000 The other one survived.

01:02:52.000 And now there's, I think, a couple lawsuits over these people who were killed.

01:02:56.000 The parents are blaming the city.

01:02:58.000 I mean, the city could have come in and swept it all up.

01:03:01.000 But these Democrat leaders, they favor this stuff.

01:03:06.000 Right, and it does kind of create the moral question of, you know, do the people of the city, now do they deserve it?

01:03:14.000 And this is why I keep telling people just get out of cities.

01:03:14.000 No, obviously not.

01:03:17.000 You just need to be out of cities for a while because a lot of the people in the cities, you look at places like, I'm from the Philadelphia area originally, they just reelected the DA who's like, let's not prosecute people.

01:03:29.000 Let's let people out of jail.

01:03:31.000 Larry Krasner.

01:03:32.000 So he just won the primary.

01:03:34.000 Handily won the primary there.

01:03:34.000 Handle it.

01:03:36.000 So they are voting for this kind of stuff.

01:03:38.000 St.

01:03:39.000 Louis, same situation, right?

01:03:41.000 St.

01:03:41.000 Louis, which is now one of the murder capitals in terms of homicide rate of the United... St.

01:03:45.000 Louis, right?

01:03:46.000 Who would have thought, right?

01:03:47.000 That that would have been, you know, Ferguson.

01:03:48.000 I know you're at Ferguson.

01:03:50.000 And so if they're voting for this again and again, right?

01:03:55.000 The question is, is this what they want?

01:03:57.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:03:59.000 So Jack just mentioned there was a guy in, this was the Seattle no-go zone with the terroristic insurgents of the far left, and he was talking about how they wanted to escalate things, but it never happened.

01:04:10.000 This guy who wanted violence and explosives, was he prosecuted?

01:04:13.000 Was he locked up?

01:04:14.000 Did the feds come and arrest him?

01:04:16.000 Did they put out his photo and say, please help us stop this dangerous terrorist?

01:04:20.000 Yes, but not for that.

01:04:22.000 Not until much, much, much later when he said that he was going to do something at the Tallahassee capital in Florida in 2021.

01:04:31.000 For all of his activity, again, going to the Middle East and training with a terrorist designated group, going to CHAZ, being involved in all this stuff, not prosecuted for any of it.

01:04:42.000 So here's a guy, far leftist, they didn't care about his goings on in Seattle.

01:04:48.000 Complete and pure.

01:04:49.000 There were a lot of other people.

01:04:51.000 Has anybody been arrested over the murders?

01:04:53.000 No.

01:04:54.000 I got a story for ABC News.

01:04:55.000 Prosecutors drop case against a man charged in Capitol riot.

01:04:59.000 Federal prosecutors have dropped the criminal case against a New York man who was accused of participating in the riot at the U.S.

01:05:04.000 Capitol.

01:05:06.000 The FBI went and arrested a man, because my understanding is a paid informant, told the FBI he was in the Capitol, and they said, good enough for us!

01:05:17.000 Went, arrested him.

01:05:18.000 Turns out, he wasn't.

01:05:20.000 Phone evidence apparently proves he wasn't.

01:05:22.000 They never had evidence.

01:05:23.000 Yet they're gonna go and track this guy down on the word of some random nobody, but these Antifa extremists?

01:05:29.000 Nothing.

01:05:29.000 On this one, I did you actually pull up the charging documents on that?

01:05:32.000 No.

01:05:33.000 Oh, so I actually went into that earlier today.

01:05:35.000 And I was looking at it first as a story for human events.

01:05:38.000 We're still probably going to do it.

01:05:39.000 But I want to I want to give it do it justice.

01:05:41.000 But since you brought it up, I'll mention it.

01:05:44.000 This paid informant Sounds like, and again, they're very vague about it because they're trying very hard to make sure that they're not revealing their source on this.

01:05:55.000 He was in a Facebook group chat and it appears that he was in the group chat Prior to January 6, that he was already there.

01:06:07.000 So just taking that information as it is, you're looking at a capability, you're looking at a tactic the FBI is using.

01:06:13.000 They are paying people to go into Facebook group chats and keep track of what's going on in there.

01:06:18.000 Yep.

01:06:19.000 And so the question then becomes, as you're looking through their narrative, again, they're not showing the actual messages in this chat, because I think that might reveal who it is.

01:06:27.000 They're just referring to the messages.

01:06:29.000 So it becomes very hard to tell whether the guy they're talking about is the one who actually went in or whether it's somebody else who was in the group chat, because Even I remember having been in the Capitol in D.C.

01:06:42.000 on January 6th, but being in that area, I was across the street at the Wunderberg news studios, cell service was down, right?

01:06:49.000 You could not get access anywhere.

01:06:51.000 So it would be very interesting for me to hear that somebody was in the Capitol and able to post into a Facebook group chat in real time, right?

01:07:00.000 That almost to me makes it sound like he wasn't in the Capitol because I was having to make phone calls from the side of the street to people who were outside the area with access to be able to tell me what was actually happening inside.

01:07:11.000 This is not the first time this has happened.

01:07:13.000 We had the story of the woman in Alaska.

01:07:14.000 Yep.

01:07:15.000 She posted a photo outside wearing- But that wasn't informant, that was something else.

01:07:19.000 That was the feds just being like, we got her! 0.56

01:07:21.000 And then arresting the wrong person.

01:07:22.000 No, that was, if you looked into that, That wasn't the first incident that she was involved in, if you look in terms of the timeline of when she came across the radar.

01:07:31.000 She was involved in a mask dispute with Alaska Airlines. 0.96

01:07:34.000 Right.

01:07:35.000 And that's when the airline employee... And it seems like, well, we don't know for sure, but it seemed like it was the airline employee then thinks, I want to do something about this woman.

01:07:44.000 I'm very upset at her.

01:07:45.000 So then goes on to FBI's list of the faces that are pointed out and that have all been listed somewhere and said, yeah, you look kind of like that one.

01:07:53.000 And we're going to and so I'm going to send this to the FBI and say that you are definitely that person.

01:07:59.000 And so the FBI says, hey, we've got the word of an employee.

01:08:02.000 They've identified you.

01:08:03.000 This is this is the person we're coming.

01:08:05.000 And they raided her house on all this.

01:08:07.000 Now, by the way, going back to, you know, I'm not going to say circle back.

01:08:11.000 We're not going to do that.

01:08:12.000 Not going to use that phrase.

01:08:13.000 Thank you, Jen.

01:08:16.000 We love you so much.

01:08:18.000 But no, when it comes to Antifa, when it comes to these no-go zones, when it comes to the anti-fascist anarchist terrorism, this is never done, right?

01:08:29.000 We see their faces so many times.

01:08:31.000 We see the live streams.

01:08:32.000 I got to argue with you.

01:08:32.000 This is never done.

01:08:33.000 You call them anarchists.

01:08:34.000 They're not anarchists.

01:08:35.000 Well, they're anarcho-communists.

01:08:37.000 They're not anarcho-communists.

01:08:39.000 They're tankies.

01:08:40.000 They're authoritarian communists.

01:08:42.000 You get a swath of both.

01:08:43.000 Yeah, but true anarchy means without authority.

01:08:49.000 So left anarchists are like hippies sitting down stoned and just not fighting.

01:08:54.000 If you've actually ever seen... I'm sure you know ANCAPS.

01:08:58.000 They have the non-aggression principle.

01:08:58.000 Yeah, of course.

01:09:00.000 That's a much more well-defined ideology.

01:09:03.000 Libertarians and Ancaps, you know, it's the free market, don't aggress on me.

01:09:07.000 The actual lefty anarchists, because I knew a bunch at Occupy, were absolutely opposed to fighting with cops, being confrontational.

01:09:15.000 These are the people that would like sit in circles in the street and like sing Kumbaya.

01:09:18.000 Because they also agree with, you can't assert force over someone else, that's a form of authority.

01:09:23.000 What happens is, you get these authoritarian communists, and there's varying degrees of authoritarian between them.

01:09:31.000 The tankies up in the far left of the quadrant who are like, take over, kill everyone who opposes us.

01:09:35.000 But then you have some who are like, we'll take it by force, it's the only way.

01:09:39.000 None of those people believe in a system without authority.

01:09:42.000 They believe they are the authority.

01:09:44.000 They believe they have they are the ones who have the moral authority to determine what is and and isn't and they will

01:09:50.000 use physical violence against you, which is the epitome of exerting authority against another person.

01:09:54.000 They do, however, use the word anarchy to describe themselves, however, disguise it.

01:09:59.000 What if they're fighting fascism?

01:10:01.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:10:03.000 Absolutely not.

01:10:04.000 No, but I'm saying this is what they use as sort of the justification in many of these cases.

01:10:08.000 This goes back to the original Antifa in Weimar, Germany.

01:10:11.000 They're not anarchists.

01:10:12.000 The system is fascism.

01:10:13.000 The police are fascism.

01:10:15.000 The military is fascism.

01:10:16.000 Banks are fascism.

01:10:17.000 The church is fascism.

01:10:18.000 Tim Pool is fascism.

01:10:19.000 Those were communist antifascists.

01:10:20.000 YouTube is fascism.

01:10:22.000 They specifically called themselves communists?

01:10:24.000 Well, this is where I say anarcho-communists.

01:10:26.000 But the actual anarcho-communists, like, they're lying to you, basically.

01:10:31.000 Oh, I agree with that.

01:10:32.000 Yeah, they're definitely lying.

01:10:32.000 So the reason I always try to clarify on what anarchy is, because if these people truly believe anarcho-communism is hippies on a farm, that's it.

01:10:43.000 It doesn't scale up.

01:10:44.000 There's no, you know, 10,000 members, you know, a citizen city.

01:10:49.000 That's anarcho-communistic.

01:10:50.000 It's impossible.

01:10:52.000 So what ends up happening is the more a left anarchist wants to grow their society, the more authoritarian they naturally become.

01:11:00.000 They call themselves anarchists.

01:11:02.000 Often because they're trying to recruit people into believing they're the peaceful ones who want to empower you.

01:11:08.000 But they're lying.

01:11:09.000 So I don't like using their language. 0.54

01:11:10.000 Some animals are more equal than other animals.

01:11:12.000 Like if you talk to Michael Malice, he's a huge fan of anarchy and anarchism and he'll tell you what it actually is.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, actually.

01:11:21.000 So I just, I got his book as well, where I think it's actually a, it's like essays on anarchism, but it's, it's like a compilation.

01:11:30.000 So he wrote some of it and then it's other essays.

01:11:33.000 And so we actually cover some similar topics.

01:11:35.000 So we both talk about Leon Czolgosz, who was the anarchist that killed McKinley.

01:11:39.000 We talk, Emma Goldman comes up in both.

01:11:41.000 Now, obviously his is a much more in-depth understanding just of anarchism, but it's interesting that we are both covering the same thing, but I think from different perspectives.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, I view it like, you know, I've had long... So that's just one chapter for me.

01:11:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:11:53.000 I've had long discussions with a lot of people from Occupy Wall Street and the leftists, and I'm like, you know, how do you define authority?

01:12:00.000 Right.

01:12:00.000 And they typically will say, you know, like, the people who control the system, the top of the hierarchy, blah, blah, blah.

01:12:05.000 And then we inevitably get down to the philosophy of how... So what is an occupying form of authority, though?

01:12:11.000 Uh, it depends.

01:12:13.000 It depends on... So obviously you have the power principle that exists in the woke left, depends on who you're talking to.

01:12:18.000 But they typically will say that, you know, authority is, you know, the people who control the system and determine, you know, what is or isn't.

01:12:25.000 And I say, how do they control that system?

01:12:27.000 They say, with the police state, with violence and with force.

01:12:31.000 And I say, oh, okay.

01:12:32.000 So the exertion of physical force against another person to make them do what you want, that's authority.

01:12:37.000 And they were like, yes.

01:12:38.000 And I said, so when you go out and smash windows and start fires and beat people, what's the difference?

01:12:44.000 You just don't have the same level of power they do, but you certainly seem to want it and believe in it.

01:12:49.000 So this came up one night when we were at Chaz.

01:12:51.000 This whole, like, Lord of the Flies, Hobbesian reality where there was a guy who was accused of theft.

01:13:00.000 I remember this.

01:13:00.000 And so, you know, not to go through the... Because, I mean, there was a whole thing.

01:13:03.000 It was like, you know, he broke into a car dealership and he was essentially stealing keys.

01:13:08.000 He was accused of stealing keys as well as a jacket.

01:13:11.000 He gets held by the owner.

01:13:13.000 Then they chase him out.

01:13:15.000 Then the whole sort of bulk of people hear about this.

01:13:18.000 They tear down the street.

01:13:20.000 My brother and I are standing right there as this is all going on.

01:13:22.000 We were just like interviewing some guy when we turned and the mob is just charging up the street at us.

01:13:28.000 And, and, you know, what do we do is start running, I guess, you know, what's going on, keep filming, right?

01:13:34.000 And, and so we do, we keep filming, they knock down the fence, they get in the guy bolts, he gets away.

01:13:39.000 But in this guy, being who he is, he comes back later, trying to like, act as if he's part of the group, like, hey, guys, what's going on?

01:13:49.000 And meanwhile, the son of the dealer owners is right there saying, Hey, you're wearing my dad's jacket, you're You're clearly the guy who just tried to rob.

01:13:58.000 Yeah, you know, the retired NYPD guy in a class I was in once said, you know, in the intel community, he said, like, you know, most of the people that that, you know, resort to crime aren't necessarily the smartest people to begin with.

01:14:09.000 So, you know, and he was like trying to get like sell people chips out of a bag.

01:14:14.000 It's like a backpack.

01:14:15.000 So they so they start chasing him again, once they identify him, they grab him, they hold him up and rest. So raz,

01:14:21.000 right, sort of the rest of moon, the warlord raz, right is there

01:14:24.000 at this point, he he cocks and locks right in front of me and

01:14:28.000 starts running down the street after this guy with the son of

01:14:32.000 the car dealer, the who has an ar 15 and kit, they're chasing

01:14:36.000 this guy, they grip him up, they have them up on the hood of a

01:14:39.000 car.

01:14:41.000 And then the question comes, right, you know, open your bag.

01:14:44.000 And and, you know, in the back of my head, I'm thinking, on whose authority, right?

01:14:48.000 On whose authority do I open this bag?

01:14:50.000 They exert over others.

01:14:51.000 The authority of force they exert over others.

01:14:52.000 This is where warlords come from.

01:14:55.000 This is Lord of the Flies.

01:14:56.000 This is Hobbes.

01:14:57.000 Life is nasty, Bridgerton's short.

01:14:59.000 He wins every time.

01:15:00.000 Because they had to resort to that immediately.

01:15:02.000 So there are a lot of people who might say they're anarchists or whatever.

01:15:05.000 They wear all black. 0.70

01:15:06.000 They go and smash things.

01:15:07.000 But it's also important to realize some of these people don't have a political ideology.

01:15:10.000 You know, we assume if they're there with Antifa, then they must share their beliefs.

01:15:14.000 A lot of them are just smashing for the sake of smashing.

01:15:18.000 And if you talk to them, they won't tell that they won't understand any concept of political philosophy or any ideology.

01:15:23.000 So we get into this a little bit in the book as well.

01:15:26.000 And I talk about Eric Hoffer, who's sort of the, you know, the working class philosopher of the 1950s who wrote this book called True Believers.

01:15:34.000 And he's talking about this situation.

01:15:35.000 You know, when you have this sort of mass of you know basically disenfranchised youth typically male

01:15:43.000 who are denied meaningful work or denied meaningful access to society or

01:15:48.000 at least the perception of denied meaningful access to society right you

01:15:52.000 get all these tensions that.

01:15:53.000 Will inherently bubble up and they will go go into some.

01:15:58.000 And so here's the thing, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even, you know, if you're looking at the situation now, and even You know, not consciously making this decision, but if the media is telling you, well, if you join this drinking and fighting group, you'll be prosecuted.

01:16:27.000 But if you join this one, you'll be celebrated, applauded.

01:16:32.000 And if something happens, you know, you'll either get a slap on the wrist or the charges will be dropped.

01:16:36.000 Which one are you going to join?

01:16:37.000 That's why we see that there was that video out of Portland where some random kid runs up and punts a guy in the head.

01:16:42.000 That kid doesn't have a political ideology.

01:16:43.000 That guy can't tell you anything about... Oh, that's from 2016, right?

01:16:47.000 No, no, no.

01:16:48.000 This was, uh... The punt in the head, I think, was 2018.

01:16:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:16:50.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was 2018.

01:16:52.000 A guy is running from the group of Antifa, and then they push him, he falls, and the kid runs up and then just... punts his head.

01:16:59.000 That kid doesn't believe in anything.

01:17:01.000 Most of those people there.

01:17:02.000 The mob that chases random people doesn't believe in anything. 1.00

01:17:06.000 So these are just useful idiots, just bodies for authoritarian communists. 1.00

01:17:12.000 The people who are willing to use violence to get their way. 1.00

01:17:14.000 So I'll put it this way.

01:17:16.000 The people you've met from Antifa, on a political ideology, do they believe in respecting your right to liberty?

01:17:24.000 Absolutely not.

01:17:25.000 Right. They believe that they should dictate how you live and how everyone else should live.

01:17:25.000 No.

01:17:29.000 Libertarian left, hey man, me and my friends are going to do our thing and cooperate,

01:17:34.000 and you do your thing. It doesn't scale. You can't have 10,000...

01:17:38.000 No.

01:17:39.000 You can't. But you can have a free market. A libertarian right can scale up infinitely.

01:17:44.000 So this is the problem that Lenin ran into in the Soviet Union.

01:17:48.000 I'm looking for this Bolshevik revolution. 0.94

01:17:50.000 I'm looking for this worker revolution.

01:17:52.000 What is wrong with these workers?

01:17:53.000 They're just not revolting.

01:17:54.000 I don't understand.

01:17:56.000 Why do they just keep going to their jobs and working?

01:17:59.000 We need to come up with...

01:18:01.000 Well, well, perhaps, you know, the theory can't be wrong.

01:18:03.000 It's just we're just missing an element.

01:18:05.000 Yes, that's what it is.

01:18:06.000 We need a, you know, a group to lead the workers.

01:18:11.000 Yes, that's what it is.

01:18:12.000 And we'll call it the, of course, the revolutionary vanguard will be the end.

01:18:16.000 That'll be us, of course, because we're not stuck in these menial jobs while we will be the vanguard to to lead the workers in their uprising again.

01:18:25.000 Let's talk about the political realities of these leftists.

01:18:29.000 Did you see that OK Boomer girl apparently has a $2 million apartment in New York? 1.00

01:18:32.000 goes from Marxism to Marxist Leninism.

01:18:34.000 So Lenin adds this idea of the vanguard of the proletariat

01:18:38.000 and that becomes the Bolsheviks.

01:18:40.000 Let's talk about the political realities of these leftists.

01:18:43.000 Did you see that OK Boomer Girl apparently has a $2 million apartment in New York? 1.00

01:18:48.000 Doesn't surprise me.

01:18:49.000 So we actually have a beautiful art just behind Jack of OK Boomer Girl.

01:18:55.000 It's a Nico, right?

01:18:56.000 Nico something?

01:18:57.000 Yeah, Nico.

01:18:59.000 So this is art from G Prime.

01:19:02.000 So this is Joe Biden as a gigantic Junji Ito style monster eating OK Boomer Girl.

01:19:07.000 So she's wearing a shirt that says tax the rich.

01:19:09.000 Apparently she lives in a $2 million apartment. 0.90

01:19:11.000 Congratulations on all your wealth and success.

01:19:13.000 Just don't pretend that you're a leftist when you are the bourgeoisie.

01:19:16.000 Again, the vanguard of the proletariat.

01:19:18.000 Right, right, right.

01:19:18.000 We also have this story that I want to break down.

01:19:21.000 We're getting back to the good old days, Jack, where we used to make fun of AOC all the time.

01:19:24.000 It was like she was the biggest news, right?

01:19:26.000 We have this story from the Daily Mail.

01:19:28.000 Quote, sell your $70,000 Tesla.

01:19:31.000 Critics slam Learjet liberal AOC for not helping her grandmother after she posted photos of her Puerto Rican home ravaged by Hurricane Maria and blamed Trump.

01:19:41.000 So here's what we know about AOC.

01:19:43.000 First of all, I am not happy to see that her grandmother is living in terrible conditions because of the hurricane that devastated Puerto Rico.

01:19:50.000 I'd love to be able to help out.

01:19:51.000 There's a lot of people doing great work.

01:19:53.000 We should do like a fundraiser.

01:19:55.000 A give send go for AOC's grandma.

01:19:58.000 Her abuela, right?

01:20:00.000 Her abuela in Puerto Rico.

01:20:02.000 Yeah.

01:20:03.000 Normally I would say yes, but I kind of agree with the critics.

01:20:05.000 I'm not going to assume AOC bought a Tesla in cash.

01:20:09.000 People seem to think that this Nikko woman, she has a $2 million apartment. 1.00

01:20:14.000 She doesn't have $2 million in cash.

01:20:15.000 She's got a mortgage. 0.99

01:20:16.000 It still means she probably had like $20,000 for closing costs and if she put on like 5%, so she still has a lot of cash to buy it. 0.99

01:20:25.000 AOC probably put a down payment on the car.

01:20:28.000 So AOC doesn't have 70 grand.

01:20:30.000 She probably put it down payment. 1.00

01:20:31.000 She probably got a loan for the car. 0.99

01:20:33.000 But she ain't doing too bad.

01:20:35.000 Apparently she lives in that really nice luxury hotel in, or I'm sorry, luxury apartment in D.C. 1.00

01:20:41.000 with an infinity pool.

01:20:42.000 We heard that story.

01:20:43.000 So she's going to, she's going to make... Congressional salaries, about $175,000 plus, by the way, you get per diem, you get mileage, it's... Staff salaries. 0.93

01:20:51.000 You're doing fine.

01:20:52.000 You're doing very well.

01:20:53.000 I have to imagine she makes money elsewhere. 1.00

01:20:55.000 She's not.

01:20:56.000 I doubt she's just sitting on a congressional stand.

01:20:57.000 Well, and we already know, though, that she did have that position with the Justice Dems 0.97

01:21:01.000 and there was that whole sort of like, and this was actually when they got investigated,

01:21:05.000 it's why they were sort of disbanded a lot of it, because they were trying to run a political

01:21:08.000 committee and a for-profit firm, but as both as the Justice Dems were feeding each other.

01:21:15.000 It was almost laundering cash, right?

01:21:18.000 I would never accuse AOC of laundering cash.

01:21:19.000 That's terrible.

01:21:20.000 I say almost because I can't make that official assessment because I don't know, but basically one company hires her boyfriend and then all of a sudden he moves in with AOC in New York.

01:21:30.000 How convenient.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, things like that.

01:21:33.000 But this is the perfect example of... It's not limousine liberal.

01:21:37.000 They're calling her a Learjet liberal. 0.99

01:21:39.000 She's not a liberal.

01:21:40.000 She's a... Socialist? 0.84

01:21:41.000 Socialist?

01:21:42.000 What would we call that?

01:21:43.000 What's an expensive thing that starts with the letter S?

01:21:45.000 We can make a... Champagne socialist?

01:21:48.000 Yeah, that's a shot.

01:21:49.000 You get the alliteration, a little bit of alliteration.

01:21:51.000 Close, close.

01:21:53.000 Chablis? 0.88

01:21:54.000 Chablis socialist?

01:21:55.000 But it's still a shot.

01:21:56.000 I don't drink, but total...

01:21:59.000 A total shout out to Rachel Bovard because she gave a Somalia presentation.

01:22:04.000 Oh, Somalia socialist maybe. 0.69

01:22:06.000 There you go!

01:22:08.000 And I was enthralled.

01:22:09.000 She just knew everything about it.

01:22:11.000 She's apparently been studying it for seven years and I don't drink at all.

01:22:14.000 Totally not my thing, but I was just really interested in the stories.

01:22:17.000 This is what we consistently get.

01:22:20.000 I mean, we had limousine liberals for a long time.

01:22:22.000 The people saying, oh, climate change!

01:22:23.000 And then they fly in private jets.

01:22:24.000 Oh, climate change!

01:22:25.000 They buy beachfront property.

01:22:26.000 Now you get AOC saying, like, my poor grandmother!

01:22:29.000 And it's like, lady, you got money.

01:22:31.000 I'm not gonna pretend AOC's the 1% or anything like that.

01:22:33.000 Well, this is Barack Obama's brother in Africa.

01:22:36.000 Oh, right, right, right.

01:22:37.000 That whole thing.

01:22:37.000 Yeah.

01:22:38.000 So this is the, I guess, the consistent message we should expect from these leftists who claim to want to fight for the working class or tax the rich.

01:22:45.000 It's like, dude, they're rich.

01:22:48.000 Do they think they're working class?

01:22:50.000 Like AOC, she's an educated elite. 0.99

01:22:52.000 Now she's in Congress. 1.00

01:22:53.000 Yeah.

01:22:54.000 This is actually something I thought about a lot.

01:22:56.000 So a lot of the book I wrote like a year ago.

01:23:01.000 So throughout 2020, I'm writing this.

01:23:02.000 The Antifa book.

01:23:03.000 Yeah, the Antifa book.

01:23:04.000 But I get into all this stuff.

01:23:05.000 I get into socialism, communism, anarchism.

01:23:07.000 I get into all of it, right?

01:23:08.000 And I kind of just use Antifa as the touchpoint for all of it.

01:23:11.000 And, you know, so I went back and I was like sort of speed reading it, you know, just to refresh myself and going through it.

01:23:18.000 And, you know, just really thinking about this issue of the working class and the people who claim to represent the working class. 0.97

01:23:25.000 If you're someone who claims to represent the working class, you're probably not working class. 0.52

01:23:30.000 It's like never happened.

01:23:32.000 It is so incredibly rare because people who are in working class, they're working. 1.00

01:23:39.000 They've got their families.

01:23:42.000 They're busy.

01:23:43.000 They're living paycheck to paycheck.

01:23:47.000 Obviously, we want to have a system where people like that Can have a family and can have homeownership and don't have to be in, you know, up to their ears in debt, right?

01:23:56.000 But and they shouldn't need these massive, expansive political movements claiming, you know, some sort of agency of acting in their benefit because you're just not.

01:24:03.000 You're typically either you either the new poor or you're someone who's from that sort of upper middle class band.

01:24:09.000 of, well, I never really had any meaningful rite of passage, so my, you know, finding myself, finding my mise-en-maie, my center, finding my center is going to be helping those who are less fortunate than I. They don't know how to help themselves, but I do.

01:24:22.000 It's interesting how new classes emerge, right?

01:24:25.000 You had like the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, and then there's that painting, I don't know if you've ever seen it, where it's like the workers and then the police and then, you know, it's like a layer and then the politicians are on top or whatever.

01:24:35.000 You're the one where they're like holding it up.

01:24:37.000 Yeah.

01:24:38.000 So you have like AOC who is certainly not the working class She is an educated elite bourgeois She is wealthy by global standards, especially in a six-figure salary nearly 200k plus probably she makes money elsewhere She's probably over 200,000 a year. 1.00

01:24:52.000 She's really close to the 1% really close, but she's not I think 1% is up to like 400 or something a thousand a year to be 1% but she's well off and But the more the... It's interesting that there's not just the working class and the landlords anymore, or the merchant class.

01:25:07.000 Then it's all of a sudden there's like, there are middle class people who are also landlords because they own a single property and they rent out part of it.

01:25:13.000 Right.

01:25:14.000 So what ends up happening is, you get people like AOC who keep looking up.

01:25:19.000 They see the ultra wealthy and they say, as long as I'm not them, I'm the working class.

01:25:23.000 Although, I don't think AOC has ever actually produced something.

01:25:27.000 I think, to be fair, she's now in her second term as a congresswoman.

01:25:35.000 You don't expect a lot of bills to get passed by someone who's this new to Congress or anything.

01:25:42.000 What is what is she actually given to society that's helped?

01:25:45.000 You know, I'd love to see that.

01:25:48.000 I really do think that there's there's sort of this struggle with AOC because when she first ran, she actually seemed to be quite more populist than she has when she's been in office.

01:25:56.000 You could argue the same about Trump, by the way.

01:25:59.000 But you wonder if there are issues, and I seem to remember there were a couple times where her and Matt Gaetz might have tweets that were both in support of the same thing in some of these instances, and you wish that you could see stuff like that going on where it's like, hey, we completely disagree on maybe this...

01:26:18.000 aspect of foreign conflict or you know certain climate change provisions or I

01:26:22.000 think it was climate change actually it was a climate change thing where where

01:26:25.000 Matt Gaetz was on and you'd love to see something where these these sort of this

01:26:29.000 new generation of culture warriors is actually finding common ground and you

01:26:34.000 have to imagine that would trickle down to these device the divisive street

01:26:38.000 level of some of this stuff or the divisive social media level or the

01:26:41.000 divisive you know the school boards and the Facebook groups and everything else

01:26:45.000 where instead of it's oh I've got to defeat you I've got to beat you I've got

01:26:48.000 a my team has to win And so instead of making a team sport out of it, you say, hey, we're all on the same team.

01:26:54.000 And that's called, you know, it's kind of cliche, but that's the United States of America.

01:26:57.000 We all live here.

01:26:58.000 It's not true anymore.

01:26:59.000 Can we do that?

01:27:00.000 I understand you have a difference of opinion.

01:27:02.000 No, I read that article for American Greatness.

01:27:04.000 I disagree with it.

01:27:04.000 I think it went a little far, but I mean, Republicans right now are paid to sit on their hands and watch Democrats ravage the system.

01:27:13.000 So even right now we have the conversation about conservatives using the language of the left.

01:27:17.000 Look at what they're talking about the January 6th Commission.

01:27:20.000 Republicans keep going exactly where Democrats want them to go.

01:27:23.000 It reminds me of when I was younger I was playing a game of chess.

01:27:26.000 I was like 18 and I was playing chess with this guy and he was laughing and he said, you can only move where I let you move.

01:27:32.000 Right.

01:27:32.000 And he was right, he was better than me at chess, and he knew if I go here, he'll go here because that's his best, you know, and then he walked me into a checkmate.

01:27:41.000 And then I, you know, had to learn and get better at the game.

01:27:43.000 So you look at what's happening right now.

01:27:45.000 The left comes out and says January 6th insurrection.

01:27:48.000 Meanwhile, we had a year plus, two, three, four years of Antifa extremism.

01:27:52.000 I remember watching in Berkeley, an old lady was standing in a park in the, was it MLK Park?

01:27:58.000 And Samantha threw an M-80 at her and then she falls backwards.

01:28:01.000 Someone was probably like 60, 70 years old.

01:28:03.000 Probably could have gotten really hurt.

01:28:04.000 And I was like, what is wrong with these people?

01:28:06.000 No commission.

01:28:07.000 No investigation.

01:28:09.000 Not even a commission on COVID.

01:28:11.000 But the Dems come out and say, January 6th commission.

01:28:13.000 And you know what the Republicans do?

01:28:15.000 No, it's political!

01:28:16.000 You know what the Republicans should do?

01:28:19.000 BLM Commission. 0.93

01:28:20.000 Antifa Commission.

01:28:22.000 And then when they say January 6th, Republicans just do not respond at all, in any meaningful capacity at all, like you didn't even hear them say it.

01:28:28.000 Watch Jack.

01:28:29.000 Say January 6th Commission, right now.

01:28:32.000 Tim, January 6th.

01:28:33.000 We should be investigating Antifa right now.

01:28:35.000 I want to get a bill on the table to investigate Antifa.

01:28:38.000 What do you say, Ian?

01:28:39.000 You're here.

01:28:40.000 All right.

01:28:41.000 Although the Democrats wouldn't agree.

01:28:43.000 Stop walking into their room.

01:28:46.000 It's like I'm watching a fight in their office.

01:28:48.000 It's offense and defense, right?

01:28:49.000 It's one side is projecting, the other side is deflecting.

01:28:53.000 So the Republicans, and you've seen this again and again with the Republican Party.

01:28:57.000 This is my party, right, where they will count it as a win if they were able to stop the Democrats from doing X, right?

01:29:05.000 Whatever it is.

01:29:06.000 And you see this interplay again and again with the Republican

01:29:08.000 party. Well, it's a win because we stopped this win because we

01:29:11.000 stopped that.

01:29:11.000 Oh, we, you know, we couldn't get this to stop.

01:29:13.000 We couldn't get this one through.

01:29:14.000 So that was right.

01:29:15.000 No, that's not a win, right?

01:29:17.000 That's that's that's stalemate.

01:29:18.000 That's neutral.

01:29:19.000 If you're talking World War One, it's a slow defeat.

01:29:21.000 They are going to win eventually if you allow them to continue to

01:29:25.000 take over every single institution of society, every single cultural outlet of society like has been happening.

01:29:33.000 They are running the table with this because they knew that their policies, if they came out and just told you, you know, early on, say back in the 1990s, hey, this is what we want.

01:29:43.000 This is what we're going to do with America. 0.91

01:29:44.000 It never would have flown in terms of public opinion.

01:29:46.000 There's this famous quote from a great philosopher.

01:29:49.000 And he said, never fight an alligator underwater.

01:29:53.000 He was right.

01:29:55.000 Yeah, Ian said that.

01:29:56.000 Ian, that's pretty good.

01:29:57.000 I love it.

01:29:57.000 Yeah, it just came out of nowhere and we're like, wow, that's a good one.

01:30:00.000 That's actually a good one.

01:30:01.000 Yeah, don't do that.

01:30:02.000 No.

01:30:02.000 Right, that's what Republicans do.

01:30:03.000 They're going into the territory of the Democrats thinking they're going to win.

01:30:06.000 It's like, bro, you're on their home turf.

01:30:08.000 You got to stand up for something and talk about what the American people want, what your constituents want.

01:30:13.000 But apparently, I guess it wasn't wrong when the Democrats in the media were saying Republicans just want to own the libs.

01:30:20.000 So what do they do?

01:30:20.000 They say, hey Lib, make an argument.

01:30:24.000 Wrong! 0.86

01:30:24.000 Your argument about the January 6th Commission is wrong. 0.86

01:30:27.000 And then the whole conversation, the whole time, all that anyone hears is Storming the Capitol, riot, insurrection.

01:30:32.000 Then you go and ask a leftist about Antifa and they go, what's Antifa?

01:30:36.000 Because Republicans don't talk about it.

01:30:37.000 Trump did.

01:30:37.000 Right, and so this is why when Joe Biden comes out and says, Antifa, that's just an idea, right?

01:30:43.000 He's setting the frame.

01:30:45.000 He's already setting the frame of now you have to say, Antifa is not an idea.

01:30:50.000 Antifa is this, this, and this.

01:30:51.000 And are they an idea or are they not an idea?

01:30:52.000 They don't have an organization.

01:30:53.000 They don't have a leader.

01:30:54.000 They don't have a headquarters.

01:30:55.000 You see this on the internet all the time.

01:30:57.000 Every time I talk about Antifa, they say, where's their headquarters, Jack?

01:31:00.000 Where's their Oh, Tifa, you know, where's the headquarters?

01:31:03.000 Who's the leader?

01:31:04.000 Where's the organization?

01:31:05.000 Do they have ranks?

01:31:06.000 Do they have any of the uniforms?

01:31:07.000 Actually, they do have uniforms.

01:31:08.000 Well, they have uniforms, they have logos, they have flags, they may not have stated ranks, but they do have a hierarchy in terms of their, you know, red, green, yellow in terms of the black blocks.

01:31:18.000 So yeah, they do actually have all of these things.

01:31:21.000 It's quite simple, you know.

01:31:22.000 When a pit bull bites, pit bull doesn't let go. 1.00

01:31:25.000 It has now been, what are we going on, five months?

01:31:28.000 And the Democrats will not stop talking about January 6th.

01:31:31.000 And the Republicans, how often have they brought up Minneapolis?

01:31:36.000 Never.

01:31:37.000 And one thing we should actually throw out, you know, today is actually the anniversary of David Dorn.

01:31:41.000 Right.

01:31:42.000 And I did not see and I, you know, maybe I just didn't see it, but I don't remember any of Republican leadership or anyone who's been on the sort of, you know, quote unquote, back the blue side.

01:31:52.000 Tell you anything about that.

01:31:53.000 You know, I ran the fundraiser for his family when that took place.

01:31:57.000 You know, we did all we did everything for that.

01:31:59.000 And this was not something where you had anybody.

01:32:03.000 Today's the one year anniversary.

01:32:04.000 But when it was the one year anniversary of George Floyd, that's the only thing the Democrats.

01:32:08.000 They flew they flew the Black Lives Matter flags at embassies, at embassies, at celebrations.

01:32:11.000 That was the story we had out on Human Events.

01:32:13.000 And the story of David Dorn is that he was a retired police captain who heard an alarm go off at his friend's store and went to go check it out and someone put a bullet in his chest.

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 He wanted to steal a TV.

01:32:22.000 And the film, it's brutal, the live stream, it live streamed.

01:32:24.000 So he, yeah, he, he, he ends up dying on Facebook Live.

01:32:27.000 And a guy was yelling all that for a TV, man.

01:32:31.000 Meanwhile, you get the complicated story of George Floyd, which is complicated in the best case.

01:32:39.000 It's hard to break through.

01:32:41.000 David Dorn was a good guy.

01:32:44.000 A model citizen, someone we can look up to.

01:32:46.000 And when that, you know, and I did get the opportunity to speak with his wife early on and made sure that, you know, we had her blessing, obviously, before we did the fundraiser.

01:32:53.000 So it's worked her at length before she came out and spoke at some of the conventions and did some of the advocacy work that she's done.

01:33:00.000 It's been fantastic.

01:33:02.000 But, you know, she told us these stories that You know, he would go out and he would drive by the shop every once in a while.

01:33:08.000 One of the reasons that he cared about the shop so much, that's actually the place that it had been on his beat when he was when he was a patrol officer.

01:33:18.000 And so he had responded to things there in the past, it had been something that he just sort of came up with in St.

01:33:23.000 Louis.

01:33:24.000 And that's actually the shop, they run a jewelry shop there as well.

01:33:27.000 That's where he got the engagement ring for his wife.

01:33:29.000 You know what, it's not just the Republican politicians.

01:33:33.000 Look at what the left does for George Floyd.

01:33:35.000 Look at what the corporations do for George Floyd.

01:33:39.000 The Republicans should be passing a bill saying today should be David Dorn day, they should be putting up David Dorn flags, they should be doing everything and more the left has done for George Floyd, but for David Dorn.

01:33:51.000 The problem is the anvil's not hot for them.

01:33:53.000 So if they try to mimic, it's kind of like the Democrats or whoever are shooting downhill.

01:33:58.000 If they try that same tactic, the physics aren't going to work.

01:34:01.000 It's not about mimicking them.

01:34:02.000 It's about making your own space, creating your own culture, making, making and saying, you know what, Democrats, if you don't want to be involved in the conversation, we don't care because we respect David Dorn and we're sad for his loss.

01:34:12.000 The problem is it's the media that's heating up the whole Chauvin, you know, So ignore them.

01:34:20.000 Conservative media keeps responding to the left's narrative.

01:34:23.000 The media comes out and says, here's our story, and the conservatives then respond to it instead of doing their own work.

01:34:27.000 But in order for the Republican politicians to get that done, they would need media presence that would be like, David Dorn, David Dorn, David Dorn, remember David Dorn?

01:34:36.000 That people would be down.

01:34:37.000 That being said, though, you know, the question, I think what you're really talking about is critical mass, right?

01:34:42.000 And I think that at this point, there is enough of a critical mass of independent media, which thrives through social media, like this podcast right here, where you do now have this separate space, which you can inject these cultural stories, these icons.

01:35:02.000 David Dorn is a cultural icon.

01:35:05.000 We got a picture of him in the corner.

01:35:07.000 I actually saw that.

01:35:08.000 Someone drew it for us and we hung it up.

01:35:11.000 And everyone who spoke about him, a pillar of his community, got people off the street, in some cases got them into the police force, served the community.

01:35:20.000 That's all he wanted to do.

01:35:21.000 That was his whole life, right?

01:35:23.000 Didn't even wake his wife up when he went out that night because he knew what was going on in St.

01:35:27.000 Louis and he knew she probably would have said, don't go.

01:35:29.000 And he knew he was going to go anyway, right?

01:35:32.000 That's the type of hero that I want to teach my boys about, that I want to teach my kids about.

01:35:39.000 You look at David Dorn.

01:35:40.000 This is a guy who's a hero.

01:35:42.000 Not LeBron James, not some of these other celebrities who are out there shooting their mouth off about stuff that they've never even looked into.

01:35:49.000 Someone who serves a community, who serves others, and in this case, made the ultimate sacrifice.

01:35:53.000 That's a hero.

01:35:54.000 Think about David Dorn's behavior.

01:35:56.000 The left is angry about police they say are brutal, or too scared.

01:36:01.000 David Dorn was a police officer, he retired.

01:36:03.000 And when he went to that pawn shop, did he show up shaking and quivering with a gun, shooting wildly at civilians or whatever, like the left would claim the cops do?

01:36:11.000 No, no.

01:36:12.000 So he certainly seemed like he was a good cop.

01:36:14.000 Because when he went to this pawn shop, he didn't go in guns ablaze, and he wasn't freaking out, and he lost his life because someone thought the TV was more valuable.

01:36:21.000 So there's every reason this man should be celebrated by the left, but they don't care.

01:36:25.000 And I think conservatives... By the way, working class.

01:36:29.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:36:30.000 I think too many conservatives make the mistake of assuming that the left operates on the same moral foundation and moral framework as they do, and that a sound argument will resonate with these people.

01:36:40.000 No, either they don't care, they relish in the destruction, or they just want power.

01:36:45.000 So when someone like David Dorn loses their life, oh, they're not going to say two words about it.

01:36:50.000 When Republicans do, what does the media say?

01:36:52.000 They're just trying to own the libs by doing the same thing. 1.00

01:36:56.000 And it's not the same thing.

01:36:57.000 We're talking about a system and blah, blah, blah.

01:36:59.000 But so when you're talking about and this isn't necessarily a moral question in this case, but you were talking about the framework of these things and critical mass to take it back to the original story that we spoke about at the top of this, the lab leak theory.

01:36:59.000 Right.

01:37:11.000 Right.

01:37:12.000 This was something where we were told very early on, you can't talk about this.

01:37:16.000 This is debunked.

01:37:17.000 This is not real.

01:37:18.000 This is not a thing.

01:37:19.000 And yet there was a cadre of independent media that never let go of this.

01:37:24.000 They were a pit bull when it came to that story.

01:37:27.000 They didn't let go of it.

01:37:28.000 And it finally broke through because enough people sat down.

01:37:32.000 And a lot of it has to do with, you know, there's all these sort of like, you know, think pieces now.

01:37:36.000 Well, you know, it really is interesting that it came around at this point.

01:37:40.000 It's almost like something happened in going from 2020 into 2021 that we can now talk about it.

01:37:45.000 Right.

01:37:45.000 It is clear like Trump isn't around anymore.

01:37:47.000 And this was This was the pro-Trump kind of stance at the time that he took, and you just didn't want to say Trump was right.

01:37:54.000 That's the reason people are talking about it now.

01:37:55.000 But it's also because so many people for the past year and a half would not let this go.

01:38:01.000 They knew the facts were on their side, and they were a thorn in the side of this narrative all the way through to the point where, of course, it broke through.

01:38:09.000 And that's why you're seeing now, even in public opinion polls, you're seeing it spiking high 40s.

01:38:14.000 Almost 50% are saying, look, I think this came out of that lap.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, it was a Medium article that started reigniting the... This is Nicholas Wade, the former New York Times science reporter.

01:38:25.000 Couldn't even get it in the mainstream press.

01:38:27.000 Had to write it on Medium.

01:38:28.000 And then finally it breaks through.

01:38:30.000 But it is absolutely... I do think the work of BuzzFeed contributed.

01:38:33.000 I think they knew the FOIAs were coming.

01:38:35.000 You know, Fauci did and the government did.

01:38:39.000 Many of the journalists were like, these emails are gonna get released sooner or later, and I wonder if they were like, we'll release them, and what does BuzzFeed do?

01:38:46.000 Totally positive narrative.

01:38:48.000 Fauci was just fighting to keep, you know, give us a sound, you know, keep control of the situation, and then you read the emails, and you're like, ah, this is crazy.

01:38:55.000 But the media's framing of it, CNN, WAPO, and BuzzFeed, here's the emails leaked, and Fauci's a great and good man.

01:39:02.000 So here's here's the real question, and this gets back to the other American Greatness article you were talking about.

01:39:07.000 If we have so the divisions in America, yes, there's there's there's an urban rural rural division.

01:39:12.000 I can't talk anymore for some reason.

01:39:17.000 I'm out here talking in different ways.

01:39:22.000 But so we now have a division that can be neighbor to neighbor, right?

01:39:27.000 That it doesn't necessarily matter where you are.

01:39:29.000 It matters who you're listening to, what you're listening to.

01:39:32.000 Bro down the street, there's two houses.

01:39:34.000 One that's all rainbows and one that's all Trump.

01:39:36.000 Oh, nice.

01:39:37.000 Next door to each other.

01:39:37.000 Next door to each other, yeah.

01:39:39.000 And that's, you know, and that gets, that reminds me of these, these stories that you hear about when, from the Civil War and they talk about, you know, brother versus brother, father versus son.

01:39:47.000 And you think like, Well, I would never turn against my brother.

01:39:50.000 He's my brother.

01:39:50.000 I would never turn against my father.

01:39:52.000 We may disagree, but I would turn against him.

01:39:53.000 And then you sort of look at some of these divisions now and you say, and the look at the way that families have split up over this stuff.

01:40:00.000 I'll just say it, right?

01:40:03.000 I had people that did in my family that didn't want to come to my wedding because they were convinced, they were convinced that the woman I was marrying was a Russian spy.

01:40:13.000 Because she was born in the Soviet Union.

01:40:16.000 Not even Russia.

01:40:16.000 Russophobia!

01:40:18.000 One of the former satellite countries, they would call them now.

01:40:21.000 But they were convinced, because they're MSNBC watchers, and they were convinced that that's what was going on.

01:40:26.000 Here's this Trump guy, and this immigrant girl from the wrong part of the world, and well, she must be one of them. 1.00

01:40:36.000 And I don't say that to own them or anything.

01:40:38.000 It's sad.

01:40:38.000 I just think the whole situation is sad.

01:40:41.000 I'd rather have politics be put aside and I'd just like to have my family back, right?

01:40:47.000 We can talk about Star Wars or something or whatever the latest Superman movie is.

01:40:52.000 Batman vs. Robin, which is quite good, actually.

01:40:55.000 Well, we should take Super Chats, if you haven't already.

01:40:58.000 Give a little tap to that like button, it really helps out.

01:41:00.000 Share the show with your friends and people you know, if you think we do a good job.

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01:41:17.000 And then you can, you know, watch CNN and have a good time.

01:41:19.000 But if you think Yeah, what do you think about that?

01:41:21.000 then we'll need your help.

01:41:23.000 But let's read some super chats.

01:41:24.000 And if you want to get your super chats in, now's the time we're gonna start reading them.

01:41:27.000 We got DC Pagan says, Rand Paul 2024,

01:41:30.000 Libertarians must take over the Republican Party.

01:41:33.000 Yeah, what do you think about that?

01:41:34.000 You like Rand?

01:41:35.000 I like Rand, but I don't think the Libertarians are gonna take over.

01:41:38.000 I don't think so.

01:41:39.000 It's not going to happen.

01:41:40.000 No, Dave Smith's cool.

01:41:41.000 People are like... I like Dave Smith.

01:41:43.000 Is he actually running?

01:41:45.000 I don't think so.

01:41:46.000 No, I think it's... Well, he's Babylon V, so I think that's like a... Dave Smith?

01:41:51.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:41:51.000 I think it's the other Dave.

01:41:53.000 No, I think basically that the constituency for the Libertarian Party isn't quite what they think it is in terms of the voting blocs.

01:42:01.000 Well, you've seen the meme about the fox.

01:42:03.000 It's like the very beautiful fox has libertarian ideas, and then the scraggly libertarian politicians, so, you know.

01:42:09.000 Gary Johnson.

01:42:11.000 You know, I think, you know, whenever we mock politicians on this show, and we're like, you know, one joke I made was like, a new project for Elon, a new form of government is called Marsism.

01:42:20.000 It's where you take all of the people as soon as they get elected and put them on the spaceship and then send them to Mars.

01:42:26.000 That's literally how the government works.

01:42:26.000 And that's it.

01:42:28.000 And then they're just gone.

01:42:28.000 I'm fine with that.

01:42:29.000 I'm totally fine with that.

01:42:30.000 Never hear from them again.

01:42:31.000 But we're like, oh, Rand Paul can stay.

01:42:33.000 No, no, Rand Paul stays.

01:42:34.000 He can stay.

01:42:35.000 And you know, I know I'm hard on my Libertarians, but I will throw this out there that Libertarians, you're so good on foreign policy.

01:42:35.000 No, I got it.

01:42:41.000 You guys are just so good on that.

01:42:42.000 I love it.

01:42:43.000 Yeah.

01:42:44.000 There's a lot of Republicans who aren't and a lot of neocons who decided it's better to be a Democrat Because you were going to lose your war by voting for an anti-war Republican.

01:42:54.000 Isn't it funny that you had a bunch of these neoconservatives who were like, all of these policies, literally everything, pro-life, not worth it for me.

01:42:54.000 Right.

01:43:03.000 I just want to blow people up in the Middle East, so I'll be a Democrat instead. 1.00

01:43:06.000 Yeah.

01:43:07.000 Sounds like they didn't have a whole lot of principles to begin with.

01:43:11.000 All right, Cristiano says, hey bruv, not one to defend Biden, but checked footage, and it seems like the Unknown Soldier ceremony is a change in procedure.

01:43:18.000 Last year, during both Memorial and Veterans Day, Trump did the same thing.

01:43:21.000 All right, well, there you go.

01:43:23.000 What was that story?

01:43:24.000 Where Biden didn't lay the wreath.

01:43:26.000 They changed it, I guess.

01:43:27.000 People are saying it was changed for COVID, but I'm like, why would they keep doing it if they're not wearing masks in the procedure?

01:43:32.000 But you know, we'll talk about a lot of stuff in the bonus segment, so make sure you sign up for TimCast.com.

01:43:37.000 Bonus segment comes up around 11 or so.

01:43:39.000 make 1984 fiction again says this episode uh this episode this is my ten dollar bribe to be the first on the list for a timcast bumper stickers also how do i get a don't fight with an alligator underwater mug go to timcast.com click store and the mug is there and you can get it and it's it's the meme of uh it's the drake meme but it's ian instead and he's like alligators underwater and then alligators on land nice yeah So you would fight them on land?

01:44:03.000 I didn't say that.

01:44:04.000 I just said don't fight them underwater.

01:44:06.000 Because even that is still not probably a great idea.

01:44:09.000 Not ideal. 0.99

01:44:10.000 Maybe punch them in the nose or something. 0.98

01:44:13.000 OMG Puppy says, Jack, who do you think is behind the demoralization and destabilization of Western societies? 0.99

01:44:19.000 Active measures by foreign enemies?

01:44:21.000 Soros-Davos technocrats?

01:44:23.000 Domestic leftists?

01:44:23.000 media outrage for profit?

01:44:24.000 What do you think?

01:44:39.000 And so the question is, if you're someone who wants power, you know, and power becomes a zero-sum game, if you're in that sort of real politic environment, then you've got to take it from someone.

01:44:49.000 And if that's Western civilization, then that's your target.

01:44:53.000 Right on.

01:44:54.000 Kay Marie says, Timcast is the new punk rock.

01:44:54.000 All right.

01:44:57.000 What happened to feel the rage of a new generation?

01:45:01.000 Eric A. says, Jack, this is the most important question of the night.

01:45:03.000 How can I get your comic book?

01:45:05.000 We still have the comic book up.

01:45:07.000 It is at iconiccomics.com.

01:45:10.000 I'm also actually gonna be doing my first Comic Con coming up this summer.

01:45:13.000 So we're actually going down to Texas for that.

01:45:15.000 I think it's Temple, Texas.

01:45:16.000 We're doing it in August.

01:45:18.000 So super excited.

01:45:19.000 My comic is up there at Iconic Comics.

01:45:21.000 We have some, I believe we have some autographed copies available there.

01:45:24.000 Go get the Agent Poso.

01:45:25.000 It's kind of based on my life, but like a very You know, stylized version of it with my wife and my son and some of my cast of characters.

01:45:33.000 Cassandra's in it, right?

01:45:35.000 And you have this weird silencer suppressor on your gun that makes no sense.

01:45:39.000 Oh man, all the gun guys hit me.

01:45:41.000 I didn't draw it.

01:45:42.000 It's a weird thing.

01:45:43.000 It's cool, whatever.

01:45:44.000 Did you hear about that punk band that's charging $1,000 to see their show?

01:45:47.000 I did, yeah.

01:45:48.000 Unless you're vaccinated, then it's $18.

01:45:51.000 So there's a funny story.

01:45:52.000 The least punk thing I've ever heard in my life.

01:45:53.000 Yeah, it's like super pro Big Pharma, super pro establishment, and super pro rich people.

01:45:58.000 If you're rich, you get to go see their show.

01:46:00.000 I still remember, you know, showing my age maybe a little bit, but when Green Day went and performed with like a John Kerry thing in 2004.

01:46:09.000 And I was like, what? 0.99

01:46:13.000 Yeah, don't want to be an American idiot. 1.00

01:46:15.000 You shouldn't be political at all. 1.00

01:46:16.000 Dude, they performed in 94 and I think their tickets were five bucks.

01:46:19.000 Do you remember that?

01:46:20.000 I actually did see Green Day in 94, yeah.

01:46:20.000 I saw him in 94.

01:46:22.000 It gets better.

01:46:23.000 One of the fans of this band... I was super young.

01:46:26.000 I was super young.

01:46:27.000 Sure, okay.

01:46:27.000 94 or 95, one of those.

01:46:28.000 One of the fans of this band, Teenage Bottle Rocket, apparently wasn't able to get the vaccine because she had just had COVID.

01:46:34.000 And so the doctor told her, it's too soon, you're not gonna be able to get it.

01:46:37.000 And so she's like, so now I literally don't get to see the show?

01:46:40.000 That's right.

01:46:41.000 If you're a poor person who was told by your doctor the vaccine, you can't get it for some medical reason.

01:46:46.000 And you want to go to the show, you'll be able to, but I can assure you the rich people won't care and won't think twice if they really want to go to that show.

01:46:52.000 Not that they probably would, but if they chose to, I think people should.

01:46:56.000 I think, you know, if there are rich people out there, go do it.

01:46:58.000 The vanguard of the working class.

01:46:59.000 The vanguard.

01:47:01.000 All right, this one's serious.

01:47:03.000 Adam Austin says, Tim, I'm an electrician in Northeast Ohio.

01:47:06.000 Copper prices aren't being talked about.

01:47:08.000 Our wire went up almost 300% since January.

01:47:11.000 Wire that was $67 is now almost $140.

01:47:12.000 Wow.

01:47:17.000 Early last year, Ian was like, dude, you got to buy a bunch of copper.

01:47:20.000 And I'm talking a bunch, like hundreds, thousands of pounds of it.

01:47:24.000 Mostly worthless.

01:47:25.000 Mostly up 300%.

01:47:26.000 So whatever you put into it, you're going to see.

01:47:27.000 So I bought a bunch of copper.

01:47:28.000 But it's actually worth, it's valuable.

01:47:30.000 Do you buy it by the ream or by the spool?

01:47:33.000 Bars. 0.86

01:47:33.000 I like ingots, personally. 0.86

01:47:36.000 But you can make wiring out of it.

01:47:37.000 I mean, right.

01:47:38.000 So cheap.

01:47:38.000 shell case. You know, I got it because we have a little forge

01:47:38.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 for like making things for fun. So I was like, it's probably the

01:47:44.000 best metal for that. But it's metal and it's cheap. And he was

01:47:47.000 like, I should buy it. So I just bought some. So cheap got copper

01:47:50.000 bars. They're like, it's really cool. Actually, there's like it

01:47:53.000 was not a precious metal when you bought it. But now it is.

01:47:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it kind of There's like dollars.

01:47:58.000 It's like a US dollar, but it's just copper imprint.

01:48:02.000 It looks pretty cool.

01:48:02.000 That's pretty cool.

01:48:03.000 And it's like, it's worthless.

01:48:03.000 Yeah.

01:48:04.000 So you're counterfeiting copper money?

01:48:05.000 No, no, no.

01:48:06.000 You buy it from like... Yeah, no, no, no.

01:48:07.000 Of course not.

01:48:08.000 If it was rare, I think it would be as valuable as gold.

01:48:08.000 Yeah.

01:48:11.000 If it was rare as gold.

01:48:13.000 He's like, we've got this printing press out back with a special ink and paper.

01:48:18.000 You run the copper through and...

01:48:20.000 People keep saying Alex Jones was right again.

01:48:26.000 Didn't Joe Rogan say people owe Alex Jones an apology a while ago?

01:48:30.000 I mentioned this before, when we had him on the show, he told me that a lot of the meat we eat is cloned.

01:48:36.000 And I'm like, no, we're not eating cloned beef, Alex.

01:48:39.000 That's crazy.

01:48:39.000 I remember this.

01:48:40.000 Google it.

01:48:40.000 I Google it.

01:48:41.000 I'm like, dude, we're eating cloned beef.

01:48:43.000 So this is didn't this come out with was it salmon?

01:48:45.000 Is it salmon?

01:48:46.000 Is the new one that they're rejecting?

01:48:47.000 It's it's it's like lab grown.

01:48:50.000 I want to say it's salmon.

01:48:51.000 Could be something else.

01:48:51.000 But and it's and the new one, I remember it's and it won't be labeled.

01:48:56.000 So you won't know.

01:48:56.000 Oh, wow.

01:48:57.000 Yeah, you won't know.

01:48:58.000 How crazy would it be if, like, literally Alex Jones was never wrong and we actually lived in that crazy of a reality of all the interdimensional aliens and cell towers and chimeras or whatever?

01:49:10.000 Didn't someone try banning human chimera research and the Democrats said, like, nah, we're good, we're gonna do it?

01:49:16.000 Really?

01:49:16.000 Yeah, what was that?

01:49:17.000 Was that in the Fauci Leaks too?

01:49:19.000 No, no, no, it was like a normal voting session and they were like, so-and-so's amendment to ban human animal chimera research.

01:49:25.000 This is when they were doing the voice votes a couple weeks ago.

01:49:25.000 No.

01:49:29.000 Yeah, it wasn't long ago.

01:49:30.000 Yeah, there were a few of those.

01:49:31.000 And they did actually say in those voice votes there was an amendment, I forget if it was Rand's or not, but to shut down research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

01:49:40.000 Yeah, that one passed.

01:49:42.000 Yeah.

01:49:42.000 All right.

01:49:43.000 Let's grab some super chats.

01:49:47.000 David M.N.

01:49:48.000 says, I teased Jack about overusing the phrase breaking news and he blocked me on Twitter.

01:49:52.000 I miss his tweets.

01:49:53.000 Is that true?

01:49:55.000 Um, no, that's not true.

01:49:56.000 I don't want you to overuse that phrase.

01:49:58.000 All right.

01:49:59.000 Nathan Snyder says there was a recent study.

01:50:02.000 Give me, give me his account.

01:50:02.000 I'll, I'll take care of it.

01:50:03.000 Says David MN.

01:50:05.000 I don't know.

01:50:07.000 Yeah, just remember that one.

01:50:08.000 We'll take care of it afterwards.

01:50:09.000 Nathan Snyder says, there was a recent study that showed the effectiveness of masks at protecting the wearer.

01:50:14.000 In a low VIRON environment, masks are effective, but in a high VIRON environment, masks offer no protection.

01:50:21.000 Yeah, there was something that came out that said, indoors, the air circulates so much that after a certain amount of time, it becomes less and less effective.

01:50:28.000 So that was a huge problem.

01:50:30.000 That makes sense.

01:50:30.000 Like we learn new stuff every day.

01:50:32.000 I think it's fair to say, you know, a lot of people are saying like Fauci

01:50:35.000 was saying don't wear masks.

01:50:36.000 And I'm like, there's an email where Fauci says he advises someone not to

01:50:40.000 wear a mask and I'm like, right.

01:50:41.000 And then a month later, he literally said the exact same thing on 60 minutes.

01:50:44.000 Right.

01:50:45.000 This, this is essentially concurrent.

01:50:45.000 Identical.

01:50:47.000 Yeah.

01:50:48.000 So it's it's it's people think he was secretly changing his opinion.

01:50:52.000 No, no, no, he was public about being wrong and flip flopping.

01:50:54.000 What gets me is the people that I see just out in public outside by themselves wearing a mask.

01:51:00.000 Protecting the environment.

01:51:00.000 Yep.

01:51:02.000 Brooke O says Tim has the best Tim as the best at impressions.

01:51:08.000 I think you're saying I'm the best at impressions.

01:51:09.000 And that's true.

01:51:10.000 I am.

01:51:11.000 But, uh, but Jack's got a good Stewie Griffin, so... Yeah, you know, the Stewie Griffin's alright.

01:51:15.000 There's a few different ones in there, but, you know, that was the one I just... I don't even know what it was.

01:51:18.000 Peter?

01:51:18.000 Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about there, Chad.

01:51:20.000 Your Stewie's good.

01:51:21.000 Your Peter needs some... Yeah, Peter's not as... Yeah, Peter's not as good as that, uh, you know, as good as that one.

01:51:26.000 It's kind of weird because Stewie and Peter are both Seth MacFarlane.

01:51:29.000 Dude, I actually got to see Family Guy live once and they did it in New York on Broadway.

01:51:34.000 And so I got to see him doing a table read of this.

01:51:37.000 But when you see him do it live, you're like, this guy has like split personalities.

01:51:37.000 The whole cast was there.

01:51:43.000 Because he's he's holding the conversations with himself in real time.

01:51:46.000 And it's it's wild.

01:51:47.000 It's absolutely wild.

01:51:49.000 Someone gave us a whole bunch of banana emojis.

01:51:51.000 Yes.

01:51:52.000 Yeah.

01:51:52.000 Wow.

01:51:52.000 What's up with the bananas?

01:51:53.000 We're gorillas.

01:51:54.000 Apes.

01:51:54.000 No, we're apes.

01:51:55.000 Apes together strong.

01:51:56.000 Apes together strong.

01:51:57.000 No, but this week it's apes.

01:51:58.000 AMC Apes.

01:52:00.000 Shout out to the AMC army.

01:52:02.000 What's it at?

01:52:02.000 What's at the diamond hands?

01:52:04.000 It hit 74, I think, or what, 72?

01:52:05.000 I think it's, let's check it right now.

01:52:07.000 I think it's, I, so I got, I know there's after hours.

01:52:09.000 I got lettuce hands.

01:52:11.000 What does that mean?

01:52:11.000 You got lettuce hands.

01:52:12.000 Banana hands. 0.97

01:52:12.000 I'm out. 0.97

01:52:14.000 Banana hands on top. 0.91

01:52:14.000 Well, you won. 0.91

01:52:15.000 68 right now.

01:52:16.000 68 right now.

01:52:18.000 But it hit, yeah, it looks like it hit about 72 at one point.

01:52:18.000 68.

01:52:21.000 Man.

01:52:21.000 And I think, I think it's going to go way up.

01:52:23.000 But, uh.

01:52:23.000 They keep saying it's, they keep saying, you know, not the squeeze, not the squeeze.

01:52:26.000 Tim's not diamond hands.

01:52:27.000 Tim's not diamond hands.

01:52:28.000 Confirmed.

01:52:29.000 I was just like, I don't, I, you know.

01:52:31.000 They're not diamonds at all.

01:52:31.000 I'm looking at them folks.

01:52:32.000 Nope.

01:52:33.000 I just didn't know.

01:52:34.000 I didn't want to, like, I didn't buy them before.

01:52:36.000 Like when, when the memes started.

01:52:37.000 When did you get in?

01:52:38.000 Just like a couple of days ago.

01:52:39.000 Okay.

01:52:39.000 No, I think literally yesterday.

01:52:41.000 But you didn't get in back in January.

01:52:42.000 A bunch of people.

01:52:43.000 I had like a little bit.

01:52:44.000 You know, uh, like very, very little bit.

01:52:44.000 Okay.

01:52:46.000 Yeah.

01:52:46.000 Like 10.

01:52:47.000 I get in like two weeks ago and it was like 14.

01:52:48.000 Yeah.

01:52:50.000 And then just like today, I'm still in folks.

01:52:52.000 I'm still in.

01:52:53.000 We got to do.

01:52:54.000 I didn't feel comfortable constantly talking about it rising and also holding stuff.

01:52:58.000 Cause I'm like, what do I do?

01:52:59.000 Hold it till it's zero.

01:53:00.000 Or I was like, I don't, I don't, I didn't want to have it.

01:53:01.000 I didn't buy any GameStop either for this reason.

01:53:04.000 I hadn't bought.

01:53:05.000 Yeah.

01:53:05.000 I hadn't bought GameStop, but this one, this one I've gotten.

01:53:07.000 So I'm right.

01:53:08.000 I just kind of felt like, nah, I'm going to, I'm not, I'm not going to do this.

01:53:11.000 So I sold it because you want to report on it without being on one side. I didn't want it to get to

01:53:17.000 300 with me constantly talking about it and then people be like he's doing it because he's holding it

01:53:21.000 Yeah, but I still did like when it started jumping up really high. I was like, nah

01:53:26.000 We got to get a picture of tim all like nah with lettuce hands with the lettuce. Yeah

01:53:32.000 He's just lettuce bean lettuce hands I love lettuce hands because someone was making fun of David Portnoy.

01:53:37.000 And I like Portnoy, he's cool.

01:53:38.000 But someone mentioned how he sold his meme stocks and they called them lettuce hands.

01:53:42.000 It was on Hotep, I think.

01:53:43.000 And I thought it was funny.

01:53:44.000 Lettuce.

01:53:45.000 It's worse than paper.

01:53:46.000 Lettuce hands.

01:53:49.000 But it's so visual.

01:53:50.000 I love that.

01:53:50.000 I love the visual.

01:53:51.000 You know, you know, you know, I did, though.

01:53:52.000 I invested in graphene production.

01:53:56.000 OK.

01:53:56.000 Companies that produce graphene.

01:53:58.000 And this will help with the counterfeit press.

01:54:00.000 I mean, no, no, no.

01:54:01.000 You know, just Ian won't stop talking about it.

01:54:03.000 So I was like, I'll buy some stuff.

01:54:04.000 This is what's going to re-industrialize the United States of America.

01:54:09.000 Are you familiar with graphene as a material?

01:54:13.000 It's a single layer of atomic carbon.

01:54:13.000 Enlighten me.

01:54:17.000 So we're just a flat layer hexagonally lattice.

01:54:19.000 If you look at it, it's like looks like a honeycomb.

01:54:21.000 Sure.

01:54:21.000 And it's a more conductive than copper.

01:54:23.000 It's stronger than steel.

01:54:25.000 It's more deformable than paper.

01:54:27.000 You could make like touchscreen.

01:54:29.000 It's a superconductor and a capacitor as well.

01:54:31.000 So it can be like a battery and a wire all at once.

01:54:33.000 Wow.

01:54:33.000 You could make like touchscreen wallpaper.

01:54:35.000 You can make clothing out of it that's like touchscreen.

01:54:38.000 You can eat it.

01:54:39.000 You can alloy it with so many things.

01:54:42.000 It's not too hard to make.

01:54:43.000 It's just that we have to build the facilities to make it.

01:54:45.000 So I look at some of these companies and they've been going up in value.

01:54:49.000 The ones that produce do get graphene production.

01:54:51.000 Once we get to the mass production level, it's going to start revolutionizing tons of our electronics and tons of stuff we make.

01:54:56.000 And then I think these companies will skyrocket in value the more it gets heavily adopted.

01:55:00.000 So it's like a It's like a snowball rolling down a hill.

01:55:02.000 Right.

01:55:03.000 If you build it, they will come.

01:55:04.000 Once the factories exist and they can make it cheap, cheap enough, everyone's going to want to use it, which is going to make the factories expand and grow and... Scale, scale, scale.

01:55:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:12.000 So the meme stocks, it's fun, but I'm kind of like, I want to invest something that makes me feel good that's tangible, you know what I mean?

01:55:18.000 I can appreciate that.

01:55:19.000 Which is Dogecoin, so I bought a bunch of it.

01:55:22.000 All right.

01:55:22.000 Orwell was a prophet, 1984 says.

01:55:25.000 For service guarantee citizenship, how about a net $1 taxes paid threshold to vote?

01:55:30.000 If you annually paid $5k in taxes but received $5,001 in government programs, you can't vote.

01:55:35.000 Just $1 net paid.

01:55:37.000 Hell, I'd be okay with one cent.

01:55:38.000 DeSantis Paul, 2024.

01:55:41.000 It's not a bad idea.

01:55:42.000 If you're on the receiving end of welfare, then you abstain.

01:55:46.000 And if you're on the producing end of welfare, then you get a vote.

01:55:51.000 It's not perfect.

01:55:51.000 People that are born into poverty and people are born into wealth.

01:55:54.000 I hate that.

01:55:55.000 I hate that family wealth is passed down.

01:55:57.000 I mean, think about it this way.

01:55:59.000 This is clever, though.

01:56:00.000 Listen.

01:56:01.000 If the people who are paying taxes... Let's say you're born poor, right?

01:56:05.000 And so your family receives some kind of benefit.

01:56:08.000 Then the rich people who are paying taxes say, we're tired of paying all of these poor people.

01:56:13.000 We're giving money to the government, it's going to them, and they're lazy.

01:56:16.000 So then guess what happens?

01:56:18.000 Because you can't vote, they all vote and they strip away your welfare benefits.

01:56:22.000 Now you can vote.

01:56:22.000 Well, guess what?

01:56:23.000 Now you can vote.

01:56:25.000 I think it's going to make a lot of angry voters.

01:56:26.000 I think what we need is a vanguard of the working class.

01:56:31.000 Clearly.

01:56:32.000 And the vanguard will drive them will drive them into the promised land.

01:56:36.000 Yes.

01:56:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:56:38.000 Milk and honey.

01:56:39.000 I can see it.

01:56:40.000 Milk and honey.

01:56:41.000 Nolan bus says Will you please have Steve Bannon on?

01:56:45.000 I think we could we could we could muster that if fun.

01:56:47.000 Yeah, if we could, you know, Steve Bannon, right?

01:56:49.000 I could ask him.

01:56:50.000 It's hard.

01:56:51.000 Steve doesn't want to go to anything.

01:56:52.000 He's like a recluse.

01:56:54.000 He's like a recluse though.

01:56:55.000 He doesn't want, he does not leave the, you know, the Bannon townhouse.

01:56:59.000 He does not like to leave there.

01:57:01.000 It's very nice.

01:57:03.000 Every once in a while will, but it's like very, you know, specific reasons.

01:57:07.000 Same thing with Crowder and a bunch of other personalities.

01:57:10.000 I'm like, why would they leave their own show, which is wildly popular, to come and do my show?

01:57:14.000 You know, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

01:57:15.000 People who are consistently running a podcast have less of a reason to leave their podcast for somebody else, you know?

01:57:21.000 Yeah, it's... I don't know.

01:57:23.000 Limited circumstances.

01:57:24.000 I can run it by myself.

01:57:26.000 Well, you know, we'll see.

01:57:27.000 Whatever.

01:57:27.000 Yeah.

01:57:28.000 I'm not, I'm not going to cry about it.

01:57:30.000 Like people were like, get Crowder on.

01:57:32.000 And you know, I'm just like, Crowder's not going to fly out here.

01:57:34.000 He's like, he's doing a show.

01:57:36.000 He's doing a big show.

01:57:36.000 It's way bigger than this one.

01:57:38.000 He'd be doing me a favor if he did.

01:57:39.000 That'd be great.

01:57:40.000 Hey buddy, shut down your company for a day or so just to come out and help my company grow. 0.99

01:57:40.000 Hey, shut up. 0.99

01:57:44.000 That's the thing too, is like, people don't realize that, you know, when you get to a certain point that you're, you're just constantly being pulled in different directions. 0.98

01:57:52.000 Like, You know, even even for me, it's like, you know, and time is a finite resource, right?

01:57:57.000 So, you know, the time you're putting into this means like, like, for me, it's like, hey, this is the night that I didn't get to see my kids very much, right?

01:58:03.000 I spent the whole day with them, which is great.

01:58:05.000 But it's like, that's, you know, is it worth it?

01:58:07.000 It's like, you know, Tim, I haven't done a couple months, let's go come out, do it.

01:58:10.000 We've got the book, we're doing human events now.

01:58:12.000 So let's do it.

01:58:13.000 But at the same time, when you're when you're running operations, something like a band or a crowder, etc.

01:58:18.000 You know, you're constantly churning, you're constantly churning stuff out.

01:58:22.000 Or you're like Fauci, who's just so, you know, he's responding to emails.

01:58:26.000 That's all he does, apparently.

01:58:27.000 He's a machine.

01:58:27.000 He's responding to emails.

01:58:29.000 OG.

01:58:30.000 All right.

01:58:31.000 Let's see.

01:58:33.000 LibertyOrDeath says, before COVID and CHAZ, there were frequent rumors of mysterious trucks driven by racist people running around Seattle attacking people.

01:58:40.000 Then a truck flees into CHAZ and a teenager ends up dead.

01:58:43.000 Because they whip up these lies to recruit people.

01:58:47.000 You tell a lie for a few months about crazy cars.

01:58:50.000 Then once everyone's heard about it, you go, join us to defend against these cars.

01:58:54.000 You've heard about the cars, right?

01:58:56.000 No.

01:58:56.000 I mean, I heard about the, I know about the shooting incident, but prior to Chaz?

01:59:00.000 Someone makes up the rumor.

01:59:01.000 I'm saying hypothetically.

01:59:02.000 Right.

01:59:03.000 You start a rumor.

01:59:04.000 You wait a month.

01:59:05.000 Then you go up to someone and say, you heard about those cars, right?

01:59:07.000 Those racists? 0.64

01:59:08.000 Yeah.

01:59:08.000 It's bad, right?

01:59:09.000 Help us stop them.

01:59:09.000 Yeah.

01:59:10.000 You see what I mean?

01:59:11.000 We have to stop the cars.

01:59:13.000 You make the rumor and then you recruit off it a month later.

01:59:15.000 Yeah, obviously.

01:59:17.000 Alright.

01:59:20.000 Daniel Welch says, Tim, I have to correct you.

01:59:22.000 You keep saying beef is bad for the environment.

01:59:24.000 Please get someone who knows regenerative agriculture to talk about food systems or watch Sacred Cow on Amazon.

01:59:30.000 Grasslands can store huge amounts of carbon.

01:59:33.000 That is true.

01:59:35.000 Yeah, I think the problem is factory farming for the most part.

01:59:37.000 So Michael Schellenberger talks about this in in his book, and he'd be something great for you guys to have on if you haven't yet.

01:59:43.000 And his book is fantastic.

01:59:44.000 And he's where he writes it from the perspective of an environmentalist.

01:59:47.000 But something he talks about in terms of the environment is that that if we make better processes for cattle, like we're not going to stop raising cattle.

01:59:56.000 Right?

01:59:57.000 This is just something as a civilization we've been doing for, you know, arguably 5,000 plus years, right?

02:00:02.000 You know, husbandry, agriculture.

02:00:04.000 That being said, the more efficient we make these processes, the better it is for the environment.

02:00:10.000 Yeah.

02:00:11.000 Rad number two says true anarchists want to be able to own machine guns, engage in consensual transactions, and be left the hell alone by the state.

02:00:19.000 Antifa are just a bunch of posers.

02:00:21.000 That is true.

02:00:22.000 But how can you own anything if there is no authority?

02:00:26.000 You can't aggress against another person.

02:00:28.000 But like, who are you to say that it belongs to you?

02:00:30.000 That's only because the authority says it's yours.

02:00:33.000 So in a left anarchist vision, everyone agrees to arbitration.

02:00:39.000 So you have, let's say in their utopian vision of a society, there's no authority.

02:00:44.000 It's just literally, if there's a river and people are disputing what can go into it, all of the people with a stake in it have to sit down in a big circle and do jazz hands to discuss.

02:00:53.000 So someone says, I'd like to speak, please.

02:00:55.000 I believe that the river would be best accommodated, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:00:58.000 And then someone else would be like, I disagree.

02:00:59.000 And then everyone votes.

02:01:00.000 So it's a vote, comes down to a vote.

02:01:02.000 Yeah.

02:01:02.000 Demarchy, basically.

02:01:03.000 No, demarchy would be random representation.

02:01:05.000 Democracy.

02:01:06.000 So it's democratic, but it ultimately, in many of the situations where anarchists have tried, it has to be unanimous.

02:01:12.000 Well, so this is something similar to what they're actually trying to push in Rojava in that Northeast Syria sort of quadrant where they call it democratic confederalism.

02:01:21.000 And that's the idea is that it's sort of like these local councils that are set up, but then they have a lot of this like ultimate authority and there is no there's no like higher board or commission that they go to.

02:01:32.000 This is the problem.

02:01:33.000 Obviously, if you have a large swath of land, there's no way to have a meeting of, you know, a hundred thousand people all doing jazz hands to figure out what they like or they don't like.

02:01:42.000 When you have ten people, consensus is not hard.

02:01:46.000 However, with Occupy Wall Street, when it scaled up to even a few hundred people, the whole thing broke.

02:01:50.000 I'll give you an example.

02:01:51.000 It was hilarious.

02:01:53.000 The sanitation working group, the people who cleaned the crap at Occupy, said, we need bins for storing things when it rains.

02:02:02.000 Otherwise, everything gets soggy and dirty.

02:02:05.000 So, they said, I propose, as the working group, Sanitation Working Group, that the funds that we have from the donations be used to buy us a set of bins.

02:02:15.000 Someone then said, I object.

02:02:17.000 This is wasteful.

02:02:19.000 We can't use plastics.

02:02:21.000 It's destroying the planet.

02:02:22.000 Someone then said, compromise.

02:02:24.000 What if we do recycled plastics?

02:02:27.000 So now we're taking them out of the dump and putting them to good use.

02:02:30.000 Someone else then said, but they're not being produced fairly.

02:02:33.000 So if we buy the recycled ones, we're still propping up unfair trade practices.

02:02:38.000 So then they said, okay, here's the compromise.

02:02:41.000 We need fair trade, recycled plastic bins, bought on a secondary market, not from a major store or a chain or corporation.

02:02:50.000 And so they went, agreed.

02:02:52.000 And then the executive, the facilitators went to Walmart and bought bins.

02:02:56.000 Because you can't do that!

02:02:58.000 How are you supposed to find- And where are they gonna find these magical bins that check every little box of- It's impossible.

02:03:04.000 Right.

02:03:05.000 So what was happening was- At the level that they need- You had a few hundred people- At the time they need- And everyone had a complaint.

02:03:10.000 So, if you have ten people, and someone's like, I propose that for dinner we have fried rice.

02:03:10.000 Right.

02:03:16.000 And someone else says, I'm not in the mood for rice.

02:03:18.000 It makes me gassy.

02:03:19.000 I want fried vegetables.

02:03:22.000 Well then, a consensus is not hard to come by with only 10 people.

02:03:25.000 Eventually someone says, okay, how about we do noodles instead with fried vegetables?

02:03:29.000 This is like, uh, what, you know, what pizza toppings.

02:03:31.000 It's like the classic.

02:03:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:03:32.000 And then people are just like, okay, we'll do half pepperoni, half mushroom.

02:03:35.000 We're good.

02:03:36.000 Right.

02:03:37.000 You're not going to get there with 100,000 people.

02:03:39.000 It's not going to happen.

02:03:41.000 So your, your, your lefty anarchy is very difficult to scale.

02:03:43.000 However, right anarchy is, I've got a bunch of valuable things that I'm willing to trade in exchange to make you agree with me and give me what I want.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, this is like Galt's Gulch.

02:03:51.000 Yeah.

02:03:52.000 And so then, you know, Ian's like, I don't want gluten-free pizza.

02:03:55.000 And I say, Ian, I will give you a bottle of water if you agree with me on this one.

02:03:59.000 And Ian says, bottle of water works for me.

02:04:01.000 But the problem is if you come in with all these like gems and baubles and you're like, and then I take a few for myself and say, hey, look, I have some gems and baubles I'm going to sell you.

02:04:09.000 Those are my gems and baubles.

02:04:10.000 So that means you aggressed against me.

02:04:12.000 But how can you prove that?

02:04:12.000 And I'm.

02:04:14.000 I can just under under these like.

02:04:17.000 So in right anarchy, they do believe in property rights.

02:04:19.000 Right.

02:04:20.000 Right.

02:04:20.000 So the property rights.

02:04:21.000 I can.

02:04:22.000 I can defend my property from you as the aggressor against me.

02:04:24.000 Who who enforces that? 0.94

02:04:25.000 I do.

02:04:26.000 In an anarchy.

02:04:26.000 But what if what if.

02:04:28.000 There's a lot of problems with it, but ultimately it's, don't aggress against other people.

02:04:28.000 Doesn't matter.

02:04:31.000 So again, I'm not an anarchist.

02:04:32.000 I think there's, it's a bit too utopian.

02:04:33.000 man leave arbitration up to the barrel of to the gun it doesn't make a lot of

02:04:37.000 there's a lot of problems with it but ultimately it's don't aggress against

02:04:41.000 other people so again I'm not an anarchist I think there's it's a bit too

02:04:44.000 utopian and I think what it would even saying though is that that's what it

02:04:48.000 would come down to ready right It would come down to people just saying, you know what?

02:04:51.000 Shootouts. 1.00

02:04:52.000 Yeah, it's gonna come down to shootouts, and that's what leads to warlords, and that's what's... This is why no country in the world has ever tried this.

02:04:59.000 Yeah, I think one of the biggest problems with NCAPs is the rise of monopolistic powers.

02:05:04.000 What would happen if we had five competing private police forces?

02:05:08.000 They'd get bought up one by one by the one bigger one.

02:05:10.000 Well, so I call my private police force on Ian because I claim he stole bread.

02:05:13.000 The Citizen app was talking about this.

02:05:15.000 Did you see this?

02:05:15.000 Yes.

02:05:16.000 So the Citizen app was talking about having this.

02:05:16.000 I saw that.

02:05:19.000 So you know Citizen app, right?

02:05:20.000 So certain cities, oh you don't know, okay.

02:05:20.000 No.

02:05:22.000 I totally looked this up, yeah.

02:05:23.000 Yeah, so some cities have this where, I don't recall if DC has it yet or not, but big cities.

02:05:29.000 And it's it's just it's the idea of taking those like police band radios and creating an app that basically recreates that.

02:05:37.000 But it's something where, hey, you know, it's almost like in the Waze, you know, traffic app where I saw this crash.

02:05:42.000 Well, instead of that, it's, hey, I saw a break in.

02:05:44.000 Hey, I saw some crime.

02:05:45.000 I saw this, you know, in sort of next door.

02:05:47.000 It kind of has this similar.

02:05:49.000 as well.

02:05:50.000 So citizen is an app where you are allowed to post all of those things as a quote unquote good citizen.

02:05:55.000 Well, they were going to take that to the next level.

02:05:57.000 And I believe they've scuttled the plans, but they were talking about doing a private dispatched police force that you could actually call out through the app if you're the victim of a crime instead of calling the police.

02:06:11.000 So here's what happens.

02:06:13.000 Ian and I get into a fight.

02:06:15.000 So I call my private police force.

02:06:16.000 We'll call it McPolice.

02:06:18.000 And then Ian calls his police, which is like... Police King.

02:06:22.000 Yeah, Police King.

02:06:23.000 And then I'm like, he's aggressing on my property.

02:06:26.000 And then Ian says, it's my property.

02:06:27.000 And then both our police forces point guns at each other.

02:06:29.000 And then they're like, well, we're now property of Kentucky Fried Police.

02:06:34.000 So we're not able to fight each other at all.

02:06:37.000 You know, there's an Ancapistan meme.

02:06:39.000 So Ancapistan, of course, is where the Ancaps live. 1.00

02:06:41.000 And there's a meme of this where... Kentucky Fried Police.

02:06:44.000 Yeah, where it's, if you join this new bank, we will provide you cover fire as you go to your ATM.

02:06:53.000 Free of charge.

02:06:54.000 I love it.

02:06:55.000 All right, Tommy Tampins says, Tim, I think the word you are looking for is silver spoon socialist.

02:07:01.000 They get the spoon from the government they run.

02:07:04.000 Brian Cox says, Ian, for President 2024, build back with graphene.

02:07:08.000 I think we can make it happen.

02:07:10.000 Yes.

02:07:11.000 That's not bad.

02:07:12.000 Sure.

02:07:13.000 But that's- they always try to claim to be, right?

02:07:15.000 a t-shirts and get them out there.

02:07:16.000 That's not bad.

02:07:17.000 Yeah.

02:07:18.000 Then people would be like, who is David Dorn?

02:07:19.000 Right.

02:07:20.000 Exactly.

02:07:21.000 Fish and Pop says, AOC is a Starbucks socialist.

02:07:23.000 I had a carpool buddy that used to call herself a Starbucks hippie. 1.00

02:07:27.000 So not?

02:07:28.000 Sure.

02:07:29.000 But that's, they always try to claim to be, right?

02:07:33.000 Yeah.

02:07:34.000 All right.

02:07:36.000 So, you know, people think they can get me.

02:07:38.000 The first few times they were able to do it.

02:07:40.000 I'm going to read the super chat anyway.

02:07:41.000 Okay.

02:07:42.000 Before you do, can I shout out Michael Nolan's new book?

02:07:44.000 Speechless.

02:07:44.000 Yes.

02:07:45.000 Speechless.

02:07:46.000 Yeah.

02:07:46.000 Controlling words, controlling minds.

02:07:46.000 Okay.

02:07:48.000 Okay.

02:07:49.000 I'm sorry, but continue with the super chat.

02:07:50.000 So Jason Q2 says, I'm speechless that Jack bought Michael Malice's new book.

02:07:50.000 Oh, okay.

02:07:55.000 Speaking of speechless, you know what else is speechless?

02:07:58.000 Michael Knoll's book.

02:07:59.000 Speechless.

02:08:00.000 Controlling words, controlling minds available now.

02:08:02.000 Michael Knoll's turned book promo into a meme.

02:08:05.000 Amazing.

02:08:05.000 Well, that's what I've done with, um, if you follow my Twitter lately, I've been doing the MyPillow promos.

02:08:09.000 Right, right, right.

02:08:10.000 So, you know, promo code POSO.

02:08:12.000 I bought the slippers.

02:08:13.000 Do you like the slippers?

02:08:15.000 Are they the best slippers you've ever worn?

02:08:15.000 I got half off.

02:08:17.000 They're amazing slippers.

02:08:18.000 They actually are really good slippers.

02:08:19.000 Yeah, I was seriously impressed.

02:08:21.000 I thought they'd be alright, but they're like...

02:08:23.000 No, that's actually one of the main, you know, comments I get from people is they say they get the stuff and like, I'm not doing the poem right now, whatever, but it's like, they'll say, you know, I bought something because I like, you know, I like these, I feel like he's a patriot, I like his story, I like his Christianity, whichever it is, I like where he's taking the stand for, you know, for the right reasons, I think, and they go, Wow, these are really good products actually.

02:08:46.000 I really like these pillows.

02:08:48.000 I like this.

02:08:49.000 So what I've done with the meme is that I've converted like every, you know, like Mia Khalifa tried to dunk on me yesterday and I converted that into like a Mindpillow promo.

02:08:59.000 I said, having a rough week?

02:09:02.000 If you want the best sleep, you convert everything or breaking news, whatever it is.

02:09:07.000 I think you posted about the slippers.

02:09:09.000 And then I realized I was like, I don't have any slippers for like, if I have to walk out to the mailbox or something, you know, I just, yeah, you don't want to put shoes on if you're only going out for a minute.

02:09:17.000 You want my slippers, right?

02:09:19.000 Obviously.

02:09:20.000 And then I was like, I wonder how much it'll cost.

02:09:21.000 And I went to the site and I typed in Poso and I was like, it's not bad.

02:09:24.000 It's like, you know what?

02:09:26.000 I want a quality pair of slippers.

02:09:28.000 I'm going to have to get some.

02:09:30.000 Now you're making bank off of memeing.

02:09:32.000 The meme economy is real.

02:09:32.000 That's a secret.

02:09:34.000 There are three books people need to buy.

02:09:37.000 AntifaBook.com.

02:09:39.000 Michael Malice's book as well.

02:09:40.000 Speechless.

02:09:41.000 Oh no, excuse me.

02:09:42.000 Michael Malice's book.

02:09:45.000 AntifaBook.com, is that out right now?

02:09:47.000 That is out right now, burning up the charts.

02:09:49.000 Should be number one on Amazon.

02:09:50.000 Oh yeah, let's do it folks.

02:09:52.000 Number uno.

02:09:53.000 So with that being said, make sure you follow us on Facebook and Instagram, while you can, at TimCastIRL.

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02:10:11.000 We can't talk about it on YouTube, though, because YouTube's boring.

02:10:14.000 But we're gonna have fun!

02:10:15.000 That's what we do.

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02:10:23.000 We mentioned your book, but shout it out again, Jack.

02:10:25.000 And it's Antifa stories from inside the black block, antifabook.com.

02:10:29.000 You guys can check it out.

02:10:30.000 If you don't want to go to Amazon, I've got a bunch of places where you can find it, but you can also find it on Amazon as well.

02:10:33.000 And let's, let's get, uh, that book should be number one on Amazon.

02:10:36.000 You know why?

02:10:37.000 Well, first of all, it helps support your work and you can keep doing reporting on things like this, but more importantly than regular people who don't normally hear about this, we'll go on Amazon, look for a book and they'll see number one Antifa book.

02:10:37.000 Why?

02:10:48.000 And they'll say, I wonder what that is.

02:10:50.000 One thing that we actually did do in the book that a lot of people said they like is that I actually put out a timeline of the summer of violence of 2020.

02:10:56.000 Every.

02:10:57.000 Single.

02:10:58.000 Incident.

02:10:58.000 Date.

02:10:59.000 Time.

02:11:00.000 Location.

02:11:01.000 This happened.

02:11:02.000 This was the outcome.

02:11:03.000 So when people say, oh, they weren't that bad.

02:11:05.000 Boom.

02:11:06.000 This is what happened there.

02:11:06.000 Boom.

02:11:07.000 This is what happened there.

02:11:07.000 Boom.

02:11:08.000 And you've got the whole thing, right?

02:11:09.000 But you know that number one spot is it's free advertising.

02:11:11.000 Yes, it is.

02:11:12.000 So regular people would just be like, I have not heard this.

02:11:14.000 And they'll look into it and maybe they'll buy it.

02:11:16.000 Maybe they'll go, whoa.

02:11:18.000 And that's just more ways to spread the message and get the word about what's going on.

02:11:21.000 Were you documenting your time inside the Chaz?

02:11:23.000 Oh, there's a whole chapter on it.

02:11:25.000 There's a whole chapter on Chaz, you know, and it's very, you know, sort of like Cinema Veritas, where the first thing I noticed was the smell as I walked up to Cal Anderson Park.

02:11:35.000 And I saw spray paint that said, no gods, no masters.

02:11:39.000 And I knew that I had left the United States for something.

02:11:43.000 I should read the audio book.

02:11:44.000 I haven't recorded the audio book.

02:11:46.000 I'll do one version like normal and I'll do another version like that.

02:11:50.000 The George Guadal ripoff version.

02:11:52.000 You want to shout out your Twitter or whatever?

02:11:54.000 Yeah, Twitter is at Jack Posobiec.

02:11:56.000 I'm now the senior editor of Human Events, so go to Human Events, check it out for your greatest news analysis and dissident op-eds before they ban us, so check that out there as well as Instagram.

02:12:06.000 Don't have the Rumble up yet, but maybe at some point we will.

02:12:09.000 Nice, dude.

02:12:10.000 All right.

02:12:10.000 Well, you guys can follow me at iancrossland.net and at iancrossland on social media.

02:12:14.000 You can also check out some of my music on Amazon Music and Spotify, iTunes.

02:12:18.000 Happy to have you guys.

02:12:20.000 Always happy to see people like Jack succeeding.

02:12:22.000 Always happy to get his input on the show.

02:12:24.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

02:12:27.000 I have a quest to have more followers than Sour Patch Kids, and I'm getting closer.

02:12:32.000 I'm closing in on them.

02:12:32.000 So please go follow me there.

02:12:34.000 It's fun.

02:12:34.000 What is the secret war conspiracy theory?

02:12:38.000 Probably a bunch of nonsense and I'd be, probably is probably the wrong word.

02:12:42.000 It's probably, it literally is bunk nonsense from a lot of people who believe really crazy things. 0.60

02:12:46.000 This one is definitely.

02:12:48.000 It's just not even.

02:12:48.000 It's totally off the wall.

02:12:49.000 And it's, it's because these people, you know, you saw Maggie Haberman.

02:12:52.000 She was like, Trump's claiming he'll be reinstated.

02:12:54.000 Right.

02:12:54.000 It's resulted in this really crazy parallel universe of people who just make things up, but we're going to talk about it.

02:13:00.000 We're going to, obviously we're not saying it's real.

02:13:02.000 It's like augmented fanfare.

02:13:03.000 Yeah, it's like Trump fan fiction.

02:13:05.000 That'll be up at TimCast.com.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 02, 2021

Timcast IRL - Fauci Leaks Go Viral, PROVES He Lied, Rand Paul Was RIGHT w-Jack Posobiec

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