Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - FB Censored Hunter Laptop Story After FBI Warning w- PodiumGuy Adam Johnson & GPrime85

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:20.000 you we heard from Marjorie Taylor Greene

00:00:42.000 She got SWATed again. 0.65

00:00:45.000 And it's weird because a lot of the people who don't like her are exaggerating the claims, saying, oh, the SWAT team didn't show up.

00:00:50.000 That's not what SWATing is.

00:00:51.000 SWATing is when you try to get the SWAT team to show up.

00:00:54.000 Now, we were planning on leading with this and talking just about how the escalation's going.

00:00:58.000 And then just a moment ago, we got a big breaking story.

00:01:02.000 Mark Zuckerberg, I believe it was on Joe Rogan, right?

00:01:04.000 Because we're just picking this up right now.

00:01:07.000 Mark Zuckerberg said they censored the Hunter Biden laptop story at the request of the FBI.

00:01:13.000 There is currently a lawsuit against the government, the U.S.

00:01:16.000 government, Democrats, and it is led by a bunch of plaintiffs, including the state of Missouri, arguing that Section 230 is a violation of the First Amendment because it gives broad censorship authority to these platforms and immunities, as well as the Democrats and members of the government directing censorship to these big tech platforms.

00:01:35.000 I imagine that they're gonna have to amend that complaint and be like, here's a new exhibit.

00:01:40.000 Mark Zuckerberg admitting they censor stories at the behest of the government, of the DOJ.

00:01:47.000 That's absolutely crazy.

00:01:48.000 So we're gonna be talking about that.

00:01:49.000 Obviously, you know, Civil War is a bit of a big subject these days, particularly here.

00:01:54.000 So everybody take your drink, I guess.

00:01:56.000 That's the name of the game.

00:01:57.000 And we got a lot to talk about.

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00:02:21.000 Joining us to talk about all of this and Their story.

00:02:26.000 I know it's not a podium.

00:02:27.000 It was a lectern, but everyone calls him podium guy.

00:02:29.000 So what am I supposed to do?

00:02:31.000 I can't put lectern guy in.

00:02:32.000 It's podium guy.

00:02:34.000 Adam Johnson.

00:02:35.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:02:36.000 Who are you?

00:02:37.000 My name's Adam Johnson.

00:02:39.000 Married.

00:02:40.000 I've raised five boys.

00:02:42.000 Stay-at-home dad, trying to make amends.

00:02:44.000 My pronouns are hero and patriots, and I am wearing a black v-neck.

00:02:48.000 There you go.

00:02:49.000 Looks good.

00:02:50.000 Loving it.

00:02:50.000 And Tim's tweaking your camera.

00:02:52.000 There's no Tim.

00:02:52.000 Nice tattoo, also.

00:02:53.000 What's that tattoo say?

00:02:54.000 Oh, it says, uh, it says, We the People.

00:02:56.000 Does it?

00:02:56.000 How long have you had that?

00:02:57.000 That's nice.

00:02:57.000 I actually got this a couple weeks ago.

00:03:00.000 Very cool.

00:03:00.000 Hardcore.

00:03:01.000 Yeah.

00:03:01.000 Alright, now after fixing your camera.

00:03:03.000 Tim, fix the camera.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, perfect.

00:03:04.000 So, you are known as the podium guy.

00:03:06.000 Incorrectly, it's lectern guy, I guess, but can you wanna just give a brief overview of why that is?

00:03:11.000 So, um, I was known as podium guy as, like, my story, or why is it a lectern, not a podium?

00:03:17.000 Why do you have a nickname at all?

00:03:21.000 I have a nickname because there was a picture taken of me during January 6th that became viral, it became memed quite a bit.

00:03:28.000 And they named me that because they didn't know my name yet.

00:03:31.000 Via Getty you mean?

00:03:32.000 Via Getty.

00:03:33.000 Well, Via Getty did take my photo.

00:03:34.000 There was a lot of confusion.

00:03:36.000 People thought that I was Via Getty because they read the caption underneath it, Via Getty.

00:03:42.000 So I was Via Getty for a little bit.

00:03:43.000 So just for people who don't know, that means from Getty, which is a photo distribution network, and these people who don't know anything about this saw the photo from Getty Distribution and thought via Getty was a name and they were like, this guy via Getty!

00:03:57.000 So we had a lot to talk about.

00:03:59.000 Talking about your experience on January 6th, how all of this stuff came to be, how you ended up carrying a lectern.

00:04:05.000 So, and then obviously we had a lot to talk about in terms of news and this story about Zuckerberg.

00:04:10.000 We'll start with that and then we'll get into your story, obviously, but thanks for coming.

00:04:13.000 It should be fun.

00:04:14.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:14.000 We also inadvertently pulled in George Alexopoulos.

00:04:17.000 That's right.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, it was an accident.

00:04:19.000 I was just driving by, you know, I thought I'd say hi.

00:04:22.000 I was on a quest, a mystic quest.

00:04:24.000 Yeah.

00:04:25.000 To extinguish the world's, really the unspoken threat that we all know exists.

00:04:31.000 It may be in this very room.

00:04:33.000 What's that?

00:04:34.000 I can't say.

00:04:34.000 You can't say?

00:04:35.000 Well, he texted me and he was like, bro, I'm really hungry.

00:04:38.000 Do you have food?

00:04:38.000 And I was like, why don't you come over?

00:04:39.000 And he was like, all right, pretty much.

00:04:40.000 Listen, you know, I am on a mystic quest, but I, you know, it's, there's, it's a pretty thankless job.

00:04:47.000 Reddit knows who I am.

00:04:48.000 I am the greatest martial artist.

00:04:51.000 On the internet.

00:04:52.000 So, George, you guys know who I am.

00:04:54.000 Also known as GPrime85.

00:04:55.000 We have your paintings.

00:04:57.000 I guess you call them paintings.

00:04:58.000 Digital paintings.

00:04:59.000 Up on the walls.

00:04:59.000 And you make a bunch of memes.

00:05:00.000 I gotta say, dude, the truck flying into the Trade Center was one of the funniest pieces of satire I've ever seen.

00:05:06.000 Satire?

00:05:07.000 That was real.

00:05:10.000 But it convinced a lot of conservatives.

00:05:11.000 It was real.

00:05:12.000 It was just masterfully done.

00:05:13.000 You know, they still share, I think in Canada, the trucks with the KKK hoods on them.

00:05:20.000 Look, it is real.

00:05:21.000 If you want it to be real.

00:05:22.000 It's true, it's true.

00:05:23.000 The money you send me is real and that's all I care about.

00:05:26.000 Right on.

00:05:27.000 We also got Ian.

00:05:27.000 Hi, everybody.

00:05:28.000 Ian Crosland here.

00:05:29.000 Happy to be here.

00:05:30.000 Let's just keep this going.

00:05:32.000 I'm very excited.

00:05:33.000 I think listening to the conversation before the show is going to be hilarious.

00:05:36.000 Love having George.

00:05:37.000 Love meeting Adam.

00:05:38.000 Let's get going.

00:05:39.000 So the first story we have is actually, you know, we're getting set up for the show.

00:05:42.000 And, uh, when, when news breaks right before the show, it's, it's tough.

00:05:46.000 Cause you know, I, I'm reading the news up until like four and then I get to exercise and eat.

00:05:50.000 And so we're getting up here, we're pulling stories and it's just right before the show.

00:05:53.000 We get this clip, Jack Posobiec posted it.

00:05:56.000 Breaking Zuckerberg says Facebook limited distribution of the Hunter laptop story based on a general request from the FBI.

00:06:04.000 We're going to play this clip for you now and hear what Mr. Zuckerberg had to say.

00:06:09.000 How do you guys handle things when there's a big news item that's controversial?

00:06:15.000 Like, there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter Biden laptop story, the New York Post.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, so you guys censored that as well?

00:06:26.000 So we took a different path than Twitter.

00:06:28.000 I mean, basically the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert.

00:06:40.000 We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election.

00:06:44.000 We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of Uh, that's similar to that.

00:06:54.000 So just be vigilant.

00:06:55.000 So our protocol is different from Twitter's.

00:06:57.000 What Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at all.

00:07:01.000 Um, we didn't do that.

00:07:02.000 What we do is we have, um, if something is reported to us as potentially, um, misinformation, important misinformation, we, we also have this third party fact checking program because we don't want to be deciding what's true and false.

00:07:15.000 And for the, I think it was.

00:07:18.000 Five or seven days, when it was basically being determined whether it was false, the distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed to share it.

00:07:31.000 So you could still share it, you could still consume it.

00:07:33.000 So when you say the distribution has decreased, how does that work?

00:07:38.000 Basically, the ranking in News Feed was a little bit less.

00:07:40.000 So fewer people saw it than would have otherwise.

00:07:45.000 In other words, Mark Zuckerberg has admitted that the FBI came to them and said, hey, watch out for this Russian misinformation.

00:07:52.000 So they went, OK, hey, look, here's a negative story about Biden.

00:07:56.000 Let's censor this, because people have to determine whether it's false.

00:07:58.000 And people, of course, are their chosen sources.

00:08:01.000 He's trying to very much downplay it.

00:08:03.000 I don't want to make it seem like the FBI went to him and said outright, censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, which is kind of what my understanding was, but it's more so they came to them and said, watch out for this kind of misinformation, which triggers Facebook to then say, we're going to censor some of these stories interfering in the election.

00:08:22.000 Man, dark days indeed is one way to put it.

00:08:26.000 I don't know, what are you thinking?

00:08:27.000 Because you worked on social media stuff, you worked on the censorship stuff.

00:08:30.000 Well, firstly, Mark ducked the question when Joe was like, so you censored it too?

00:08:34.000 Mark didn't say yes, but they did.

00:08:36.000 And what they did was they blacklisted the thing.

00:08:38.000 They shadow banned it.

00:08:40.000 They downranked it in the algorithm, which is a, you know, you could say it's an insidious form of censorship because the people don't even know it's being censored.

00:08:47.000 At least when it won't go through, you know it won't go through.

00:08:50.000 Um, question about ethics of it.

00:08:53.000 Oh, also he talks about we don't want to be the ones that decide what's right and wrong.

00:08:57.000 So we outsource that to a third party like that.

00:09:00.000 So we've decided someone else gets to decide what's right and wrong.

00:09:02.000 I don't know.

00:09:03.000 I think the community should be deciding what violates terms personally.

00:09:07.000 Well, to me it just sounds like they're outsourcing.

00:09:08.000 They're choosing who they're outsourcing to, so they're deciding by not deciding.

00:09:13.000 They're saying, we're going to outsource this other group.

00:09:16.000 We know they're left-leaning, but at least it won't be us.

00:09:18.000 It's kind of like what Pontius Pilate did to Jesus Christ.

00:09:21.000 Exactly.

00:09:21.000 I'm going to wash my hands of this publicly.

00:09:23.000 It's not me that's the bad person in the room.

00:09:25.000 It's definitely someone else, and we're not going to tell you who that is and kind of bury that information.

00:09:29.000 But censorship is good for us, because how will we know what's true if we're not told what's true?

00:09:35.000 You know, I'm one thing I don't like about this is like, Mark, it's not a it's not a publisher, the Facebook's not a publishing platform.

00:09:42.000 It's a it's like a general platform that's allowing people to publish their own stuff so that they take I don't know, man, we're in we're in very strange times with new technology.

00:09:50.000 So laws and things need to be rewritten.

00:09:52.000 This would be like your phone company sending you a notice being like, hey, if you have a phone conversation about Hunter Biden, we're gonna shut your call down.

00:09:59.000 Yeah.

00:10:00.000 But it's different because it's public, so they're downranking its visibility, which is different than not letting you have the phone call.

00:10:06.000 You can still have the call.

00:10:07.000 We'll just lower the volume so nobody can hear you.

00:10:09.000 But that's not true either.

00:10:10.000 I can do a call to a loudspeaker in a stadium full of people.

00:10:15.000 I'm using that tech to deliver a message in a direction.

00:10:18.000 Twitter was substantially worse.

00:10:20.000 They were stopping me from even sharing it between people, which is more so like, you can't call people and tell them this.

00:10:25.000 But what if I do a phone call to a conference room?

00:10:28.000 Maybe it's a university with a thousand people, you know, sitting in an auditorium and we do a phone call so that everyone can hear what I have to say.

00:10:34.000 Yeah, it'd be like them saying, your call is not going to access speakerphones.

00:10:37.000 We're not going to let any speakerphones take your calls.

00:10:39.000 Only individual people can hear it or something like that.

00:10:42.000 I guess the big question is turning the volume down.

00:10:45.000 I'll say this too as kind of a, it's just a correction on how I opened.

00:10:50.000 My understanding was that the FBI made a request for the Hunter Biden laptop story to be censored.

00:10:54.000 What Mark is saying is they gave them a general request about, hey, you should basically, like they basically told Facebook to censor information.

00:11:03.000 They said that Russians are trying to interfere.

00:11:05.000 Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

00:11:06.000 We know what that means.

00:11:07.000 I think it was more direct than that, but Mark is clearly trying to downplay what's going on.

00:11:11.000 So I just want to make sure we're clear.

00:11:12.000 I don't know that the FBI told him to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story explicitly, but the FBI did go to Facebook and said, watch out for this stuff.

00:11:21.000 Which they know would result in Facebook censoring tons of information, regardless of where it came from.

00:11:26.000 I mean, the fact that the FBI said any information should be under watch is a First Amendment violation, and any action taken after that, I would argue, is Facebook acting on behest of the U.S.

00:11:38.000 government.

00:11:38.000 It's funny, like, we as Americans have First Amendment rights, but do Russians have First Amendment rights when they're in Russia using Facebook that Americans are reading?

00:11:47.000 I don't think so.

00:11:48.000 They have Russian rights.

00:11:51.000 So does the FBI have to give Russians First Amendment rights if they're using American corporations? 0.91

00:11:56.000 I don't know.

00:11:57.000 Well, non-citizens do have constitutional rights in this country. 0.90

00:11:59.000 When they're in the country.

00:12:00.000 That's right.

00:12:01.000 But not when they're using technology.

00:12:02.000 When they're not in the country, but they're using technology.

00:12:05.000 See, it's a weird reality now where you can be in Russia, but also be in the United States via video chat.

00:12:11.000 And it looks like you're here.

00:12:12.000 It sounds like you're here.

00:12:14.000 Well, as far as I'm concerned, the FBI stepping in and saying anything to this so-called private company just removes the argument that of course the government's not the one censoring, it's just Facebook saying that you can or can't share this.

00:12:25.000 This is 100% the government deciding what people could or should see, and it's not even about Russia at this point because I'm fully convinced the FBI knew that this wasn't Russian disinformation, they just wanted to wink-wink-nudge-nudge Facebook into being like, oh, okay, so we'll keep this on the down-low.

00:12:39.000 Mine's frame's a little differently.

00:12:41.000 They say, Mark Zuckerberg tells Joe Rogan that Facebook algorithmically censored the Hunter Biden laptop story for seven days based on a general request from the FBI to restrict election misinformation.

00:12:50.000 I think that's a fair assessment.

00:12:52.000 And you need to understand, that means the government is going to big platforms and saying, restrict things you choose at our behest.

00:12:59.000 Yep.

00:13:00.000 There's got to be some lawsuits or something to stop this because, you know, I was reading recently is that August 2nd, state of Missouri, I think, Gateway Pundit, I think Jim Hoft, several other people are involved in this lawsuit against a bunch of Democrats, Biden, I think Biden and the government.

00:13:14.000 saying that Section 230 is a law that gives special clearance to big tech to censor and

00:13:21.000 suppress information. But that is only possible because the US government has given them this

00:13:26.000 special access, which is a First Amendment violation. I completely agree. You've also

00:13:32.000 got stories like Alex Berenson. He, I think it's confirmed now, right?

00:13:36.000 He reported this, that the government requested he be censored, specifically.

00:13:40.000 And then the government went to Twitter and said, why aren't you censoring this guy?

00:13:43.000 And they're like, okay, and they banned him.

00:13:45.000 Files a lawsuit, gets his account back.

00:13:46.000 At this point, there is no argument.

00:13:49.000 The government is actively playing a role in censoring information they do not like.

00:13:54.000 I guess that's the conversation.

00:13:57.000 We've always considered that the government is taking information and withholding some of it from us, maybe to protect us because we don't know what's best for ourselves.

00:14:04.000 And now we're getting more information that's readily accessible to all of us.

00:14:08.000 And it's making things spiral because people can go search anything now.

00:14:12.000 We've got computers in our pockets.

00:14:14.000 So if we want to learn about something, we can.

00:14:16.000 And I think this is just the veil's being removed and people are getting so much information that it's hard to stop it.

00:14:22.000 So we're seeing these hard stops being put in place.

00:14:25.000 It's like, you ever see one of those cartoons where they're on a boat and then like a hole breaks and the guy sticks his finger in the hole and another hole breaks and then his toes and then his tongue and then his eye goes in?

00:14:34.000 That's basically what's happening.

00:14:35.000 They can't stop the flow of information and they keep trying to and it's just getting, it's making things crazier and it's making things worse.

00:14:40.000 Well, even so, it was the Sam Harris problem anyway.

00:14:43.000 They had decided that this is our guy.

00:14:45.000 He's going to dethrone the other guy.

00:14:47.000 It really was a matter of time before this was going to come out anyway.

00:14:49.000 They just needed to hold it in place just long enough for their guy to get installed.

00:14:54.000 And now it's coming out, and they can't stop it.

00:14:55.000 But nobody cares now that it's coming out.

00:14:57.000 All the implications of he was working with X, Y, and Z, and now we're sending money to X, Y, and Z, it doesn't matter anymore.

00:15:04.000 They won.

00:15:05.000 Who was it who was just on, who said things were going to get crazy?

00:15:07.000 Was it Amy Wolf?

00:15:08.000 I think so.

00:15:08.000 Oh, yeah, she's been saying that.

00:15:10.000 She's like the election.

00:15:11.000 Well, is that that moving now into the midterms?

00:15:13.000 Yeah, we're gonna see really crazy stuff.

00:15:15.000 Like you don't you know, that was Mike Glover.

00:15:17.000 Mike Glover.

00:15:18.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 He was like, it's gonna get crazy as far as revelations.

00:15:21.000 No, just in terms of like, weird political stories.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, the October surprises.

00:15:27.000 Oh yeah, it's like, we're gonna see like 50 October surprises.

00:15:29.000 There's gonna be like, you know, nudes of old people. 0.99

00:15:32.000 Oh no!

00:15:33.000 It's gonna be like, someone's gonna be accused of literally throwing a pie at some other guy.

00:15:37.000 It's gonna be great.

00:15:38.000 I mean, look what they did with Brett Kavanaugh, right?

00:15:41.000 Brett Kavanaugh was accused of like, I mean, the accusations are just laughably insane.

00:15:45.000 That men were lining up outside of dorm rooms and nobody said anything for 30 years.

00:15:51.000 It's just kind of crazy.

00:15:53.000 I gotta be honest, I don't think these people really believe it, but I don't think they're lucid to really believe anyway.

00:16:02.000 I think they're mindlessly droning on and just parroting what is told to them.

00:16:06.000 I just think they're broken.

00:16:07.000 These people are just broken.

00:16:09.000 They've gotten to a point where their party keeps moving their line, and if they don't move with it, they get ousted.

00:16:15.000 They get taken away from their party.

00:16:17.000 So you've successfully broken half of the people, and they'll just parrot whatever they need to parrot, whether they believe it or not.

00:16:21.000 I've got a bunch of friends that, you know, a couple years ago, they had different stances, and we could have a rational conversation, walk away and shake hands, but we can't do that anymore.

00:16:30.000 It's crazy.

00:16:31.000 Like the crazy thing is there are people that I've known for 20 years and as soon as like,

00:16:40.000 you know, like this show started getting prominence, someone I talked to regularly,

00:16:46.000 all of a sudden now is running full speed to produce outlets being like,

00:16:49.000 I'll make whatever up. Just wait.

00:16:51.000 What do you want to hear?

00:16:52.000 What should I tell you about them?

00:16:53.000 And they're just tweeting things like crazy and I'm like, what the?

00:16:56.000 This is weird.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, what happened with you and your friends?

00:16:59.000 Did you notice like a shift or something?

00:17:01.000 We lost a lot, a lot of friends, man.

00:17:04.000 Like, you know, 10 year friends.

00:17:06.000 There's actually a couple that still have not reached out to us, you know?

00:17:09.000 And these are people who were supposed to be like, God, parents, to our children, like very, very close, deep friends.

00:17:15.000 And, you know, my thought's always been, you saw me do one thing one time, but you've known me for a decade.

00:17:21.000 You know where I live.

00:17:22.000 If you actually want to know, you can just come talk to me.

00:17:25.000 It's not about you.

00:17:26.000 It's about people feeling like, I just need to say what they tell me to say because I don't want trouble.

00:17:32.000 So the example that I think really hits the nail on the head that I've brought up several times now ad nauseam is a woman asking three other men, what is a woman? 0.53

00:17:41.000 And again, I think it was, I should probably check who said this, I think it was Matt Walsh.

00:17:44.000 These young women know what a woman is, but they're trying to reconcile that with what they're supposed to say it is. 0.99

00:17:49.000 And so they end up stuttering and stammering and making no sense.

00:17:52.000 Because it's like, there's an obvious logic, and then there's, but I'm not allowed to say it.

00:17:57.000 Yeah, the fascist word is one of those.

00:17:59.000 Like, I feel like I had a buddy told me he said I was supporting fascism by doing this show.

00:18:04.000 And then the other night we had Joe Latipo on, who's the Surgeon General of Florida.

00:18:08.000 And I'm like, how is interviewing the Surgeon General of a state fascism?

00:18:13.000 That's the most insane accusation.

00:18:15.000 But like people, this whole like Trump is a fascist narrative is like, if you don't, I think if you don't fall into that, then you start to get left behind.

00:18:21.000 It's because he is the enemy.

00:18:23.000 We don't look at each other like neighbors anymore.

00:18:24.000 We don't look at each other like fellow citizens.

00:18:26.000 The idea is you are either with me or you are my enemy.

00:18:30.000 We don't have conversations that want to produce relationship anymore.

00:18:34.000 We have conversations that we only want to produce, I'm right and you're wrong.

00:18:37.000 And if you don't believe what I believe, then you're out.

00:18:40.000 You think part of this is like from follower counts on social media?

00:18:43.000 We didn't used to have that now.

00:18:44.000 Everyone's kind of competing.

00:18:46.000 I think it's a big component of it.

00:18:48.000 I think that that kind of helps bring us to where we are.

00:18:51.000 But but a big component of it is just that you can really see now who.

00:18:58.000 10, 20 years ago you were talking about people who are friends.

00:19:01.000 Now you know who actually was your friend, who actually believed what they were saying, and now you can tell who was just saying what they thought was socially acceptable because they wanted something.

00:19:12.000 Yeah, maybe it's always been this way, but social media is almost like a room you can go vent in.

00:19:18.000 And now you're just allowed to say it.

00:19:20.000 Well, it's not real there, but I mean, it's real.

00:19:22.000 You have your opinions, you post them.

00:19:24.000 And now we know people for who they are.

00:19:25.000 And it's readily accessible.

00:19:27.000 One of the positive things that's happened with me is my Facebook and Instagram got nuked almost immediately.

00:19:32.000 So anything bad that I said over the past 10 years, it's gone.

00:19:36.000 I never said anything wrong.

00:19:37.000 You can't find it.

00:19:38.000 So let's do this.

00:19:39.000 We've got a bunch of stories, but let's start with yours.

00:19:43.000 I mean, you've done a local interview, but is this the first big discussion you've had about what happened on January 6th?

00:19:49.000 I did a local interview with Mike Kalta.

00:19:51.000 Super nice guy.

00:19:52.000 He's been in radio for a long time.

00:19:54.000 He's really nice to me, and he's like, you know, I'd love to have a chat with you.

00:19:56.000 He wasn't speaking negative or anything, so I was like, yeah, I'll come talk with you.

00:20:00.000 And I did another one with a guy who just reviews guns.

00:20:03.000 I'm not going to give him a shout out, because I don't know.

00:20:05.000 He's still building, you know?

00:20:07.000 But super nice guy.

00:20:08.000 We just kind of chatted about what happened.

00:20:09.000 So, uh, you're the podium guy and this is an egregious, incorrect statement because it was a lectern and everybody is telling us that in the chat.

00:20:19.000 But, uh, so, you know, for those that aren't familiar, there's this famous photo that comes out of the January 6 riots or whatever.

00:20:25.000 It's you and you're carrying a lectern while smiling and waving to the camera.

00:20:29.000 And, uh, how did it all happen?

00:20:32.000 What's the story behind it?

00:20:34.000 I mean, how far do you want to go back?

00:20:35.000 Like, why did I go?

00:20:36.000 I mean, let's just start with like, yeah, yeah, sure.

00:20:38.000 Tell us your story, man.

00:20:39.000 So, um, I wasn't really into politics a few years ago.

00:20:42.000 I'm busy raising kids, changing diapers and doing common core math, you know, and, um, COVID struck and I started listening as I had more free time.

00:20:49.000 I was just trying to find a hobby and, uh, you know, followed the elections and everything, you know, listen to a bunch of stuff.

00:20:56.000 And, uh, I had never voted before I voted and, uh, I voted in 2019.

00:21:01.000 For the first time, I registered independent forever.

00:21:03.000 I just didn't really have much stake in getting out there and doing something because my life was pretty good.

00:21:08.000 I listened to what was going on, started getting some opinions, some ideas, and I decided I'm going to go to a Trump rally.

00:21:16.000 It's going to be the last one.

00:21:17.000 I'd never been to one before.

00:21:18.000 I always listened to the guy.

00:21:19.000 His Twitter was hilarious.

00:21:22.000 I bought some tickets with a friend of mine and we just headed up there.

00:21:26.000 And it was the first rally I'd been to, never been to a protest before.

00:21:30.000 It was kind of a new experience for me, so I didn't really know the etiquette of what a protest is.

00:21:34.000 Did you go to—Trump was speaking at the Ellipse.

00:21:37.000 Yes.

00:21:37.000 Did you go there?

00:21:38.000 Yes, that's where I was, by the monument and the World War II memorial.

00:21:42.000 How did you go from there to the Capitol building?

00:21:46.000 Oh, we were there for, I think about a couple hours.

00:21:49.000 And at the very end of his speech, he's like, we're going to march down to the Capitol and march peacefully.

00:21:53.000 Let our voices be heard.

00:21:54.000 You know, and we didn't really have any plans that day, you know, after the fact.

00:21:58.000 So I was like, well, I guess it's going there.

00:22:00.000 So I guess we'll follow.

00:22:02.000 So, you know, just following cattle.

00:22:04.000 So you follow people, you make it to the Capitol building.

00:22:07.000 What happens next?

00:22:09.000 So on the walk there, there's a lot of people there, but I've never seen so many people.

00:22:15.000 We heard from the crowd, Pence didn't do it, Pence didn't do it, it's over.

00:22:19.000 And at that point, the pace picks up.

00:22:22.000 Some people start running, they're funneling through the crowd, and I'm like, what's going to happen?

00:22:27.000 So I follow because I'm curious, I'm there to see what happens, I'm there to witness a little bit of history.

00:22:32.000 I follow the crowd.

00:22:33.000 When we get to the Capitol, it's already under siege.

00:22:35.000 I compare it to watching an anthill being kicked.

00:22:40.000 Just people everywhere.

00:22:42.000 But elaborate on that.

00:22:44.000 Did you see violence?

00:22:45.000 Did you see people tearing things down?

00:22:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:47.000 There was definitely violence there that day.

00:22:50.000 I try to be as honest as possible.

00:22:51.000 People were hitting cops.

00:22:53.000 As you're walking up, you're seeing all that happen.

00:22:54.000 Yes.

00:22:55.000 I'm filming it.

00:22:56.000 I'm watching it go down.

00:22:58.000 When I first got there, they were kind of just arguing back and forth, you know, protest rhetoric, you know, you've betrayed us, you know, defend our country, this and that.

00:23:06.000 And at some point, just things popped off.

00:23:09.000 You know, one side started pushing, the other side pushed back.

00:23:12.000 There was tear gas, mace, there was a flashbang at a point, you know, but people were hitting cops.

00:23:17.000 So what's next?

00:23:20.000 So I don't want to stick around that because I don't want to be a part of that.

00:23:24.000 I'm just kind of tacitly sitting back there videotaping it because holy cow what's happening in front of me.

00:23:29.000 So the next thing I climb up some scaffolding to kind of get a bird's eye view to see what's happening.

00:23:35.000 You can't tell where the things start and stop.

00:23:37.000 It was just funneling in from almost every street.

00:23:39.000 I was kind of beholding the whole thing.

00:23:43.000 I'm not sure what to do next.

00:23:45.000 As I come down the stairs from the scaffolding, I notice people are going inside the building.

00:23:49.000 I'm like, well, I guess that's where the protest is going.

00:23:51.000 I guess I'll go inside.

00:23:53.000 So I walk through open doors with a group of people.

00:23:57.000 I get to the Rotunda, and when we get there, people kind of disperse because it's such a large room.

00:24:02.000 It's a beautiful room too, so whatever people were walking in with a chance, it got real quiet real quick.

00:24:07.000 People are looking around at the paintings, the statues, the oculus.

00:24:12.000 It's a beautiful room.

00:24:15.000 I kind of wander around a little bit, take some pictures, and I notice there's this lectern sitting kind of like underneath some stairs.

00:24:21.000 It's kind of out in the open.

00:24:23.000 I'm like, man, that would make a great photo, you know, kind of in the middle of Rotunda.

00:24:27.000 I called it, you know, I nailed it.

00:24:29.000 And so I take the lectern out, I set it down, I gave a short speech, and then I go wander around a little bit more.

00:24:36.000 So that was that photo of you carrying the lectern.

00:24:38.000 You took it from under some stairs and then what?

00:24:40.000 You put it down somewhere?

00:24:41.000 I put it down in the middle of a rotunda.

00:24:43.000 And then you started talking to people?

00:24:44.000 Yeah, I gave a short speech.

00:24:46.000 It was like three lines.

00:24:47.000 Kind of a LARPing politics.

00:24:51.000 And I left it there.

00:24:52.000 I didn't put it back where I find it.

00:24:53.000 So shame on me.

00:24:56.000 After that, I walked away.

00:24:57.000 I went down.

00:24:59.000 I saw where the Speaker of the House's hallway is.

00:25:01.000 I walked down there.

00:25:02.000 I saw Nancy Pelosi's door.

00:25:03.000 I'm like, holy cow, that's where she does her stuff. 1.00

00:25:09.000 I touched the doorknob.

00:25:10.000 I got to admit, I did touch the doorknob.

00:25:12.000 I didn't try to open the door.

00:25:13.000 It's like a boop.

00:25:15.000 But the door was locked.

00:25:16.000 I was like, all right, well, walk away from that.

00:25:18.000 So I come back down the hallway, kind of getting bored, kind of getting lost.

00:25:21.000 Never been to the Capitol before.

00:25:23.000 And I see another group of people that are coming, and it's a whole other wave.

00:25:26.000 And they kind of seem like they know where they're going.

00:25:28.000 They know we have a plan or whatever, you know.

00:25:31.000 So I follow that group.

00:25:33.000 And this group heads down towards, I think it's the Senate chamber where they were.

00:25:37.000 And so I kind of tag along with the group, you know, I'm texting my wife, texting my friends, you know, like, oh, I'm inside, you know, and like, you should leave.

00:25:43.000 I'm like, ah, I'll leave in a minute, I'll leave in a minute, I'll get some more pictures.

00:25:47.000 So we get down to the doors and, you know, they're banging on the doors and stuff and kind of just, you know, looking around, taking pictures.

00:25:53.000 I talked to a guy next to me and I'm like, what are they doing?

00:25:56.000 I'm like, oh, that's where they are.

00:25:57.000 And I was like, what do you mean that's where they are?

00:25:59.000 It's like, that's where they're meeting to count the votes.

00:26:02.000 I'm like, they're still here?

00:26:03.000 What are they doing here?

00:26:04.000 So that, but I'm like, I probably shouldn't be here.

00:26:08.000 So I do run around for a few more minutes.

00:26:11.000 Someone releases either tear gas or some type of fire extinguisher and it hurts my eyes, it burns.

00:26:18.000 Tear gas?

00:26:18.000 Yeah, yeah, it's not comfortable.

00:26:20.000 So I run around a little bit more.

00:26:21.000 I find a cop and ask the cop, hey man, how do I get out of here?

00:26:24.000 I'd like to leave now.

00:26:25.000 And the cop tells me, well, you know, go down the hallway, take a right, there's an officer out there, he's taking people exiting outside, so just go over there, you'll be done.

00:26:34.000 And that was my experience inside the Capitol.

00:26:36.000 And so then you leave, you leave the Capitol, and then you had no idea, did you have any idea what was about to come in terms of the national attention, the photo?

00:26:44.000 No, no.

00:26:45.000 I knew a photographer had taken my picture because, you know, professional photography is pretty easy to spot, you know, but I didn't think anything would come of it.

00:26:51.000 I thought, well, I trespassed, you know, worst case scenario, I can't come back again.

00:26:54.000 But I got my photos, I saw the building, I'm good.

00:26:57.000 So you thought you were trespassing?

00:26:59.000 I mean, yeah.

00:27:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I could admit that.

00:27:02.000 I mean, I did walk into a building I'm pretty sure they didn't want me inside of.

00:27:06.000 So I can say, yes, I did trespass.

00:27:08.000 So after you leave, when did you find out that it was much more serious than you had realized?

00:27:15.000 So my phone had died inside.

00:27:17.000 I had it charging in my backpack on a battery pack, and I made it outside, got a couple hot dogs, was walking back to the hotel, and turned the phone back on after it hit like 10-15%, and my phone just started blowing up, man.

00:27:29.000 Couldn't even use it because there were so many messages coming in.

00:27:32.000 Eventually I put on airplane mode so I could go through and see what was going on.

00:27:36.000 It struck me because there were so many people like, dude, you're famous, there are memes of you.

00:27:41.000 I was like, well that didn't go as planned.

00:27:46.000 Before I even made it back to my hotel, I was getting recognized on the street.

00:27:50.000 When did you find out that you were in serious trouble?

00:27:54.000 So I made it back to the hotel room and it was when I started watching CNN and CNN had told the people that this is an insurrection.

00:28:03.000 These people should go to prison for 20 years, you know, and then I found someone got shot and I'm like, Oh my Lord, that's, that's really, really bad.

00:28:11.000 And things started devolving from there.

00:28:13.000 When did you first make contact with law enforcement?

00:28:16.000 How did it come to be that you end up facing charges?

00:28:19.000 Well, I'm friends with quite a few Leos, so I called a couple.

00:28:23.000 I'm like, hey, is this going to be a big deal?

00:28:26.000 And they did allude to, they did say, they're probably going to want to have a conversation with you at some point, because what you did is what they're saying you did.

00:28:34.000 And so I called a couple of friends of mine, a good buddy of mine.

00:28:38.000 His name is Jennings.

00:28:39.000 I'm supposed to say Jennings.

00:28:40.000 A good buddy of mine, Jennings, he said, uh, he said, look, I got a couple of lawyers.

00:28:43.000 You should give them a call.

00:28:44.000 Just do it ahead of time.

00:28:46.000 Get some defense set up because things are probably not going to be great for you in the weeks to come.

00:28:51.000 So go ahead.

00:28:53.000 So then what happens?

00:28:54.000 You get, uh, you get, you know, you call some lawyers.

00:28:56.000 Do they eventually, uh, do they make contact with the feds or the feds come to you or what?

00:29:01.000 Yeah, so my attorneys, David Bigney and Dan Eckhart, fantastic people.

00:29:06.000 I highly recommend them.

00:29:07.000 I'm also shot them out.

00:29:09.000 So I got a hold of them and they're like, listen, this is going to be a case of a lifetime.

00:29:13.000 You don't want to wait.

00:29:14.000 You need to get us hired because they're going to come after you hard.

00:29:17.000 You don't get to get a photo like that and become, you know, infamous overnight and not see them come after you.

00:29:24.000 So, we got the prices from them and I was like, oh, well, I'm not going to pay that.

00:29:28.000 That's absurd.

00:29:29.000 Can you say what those prices are?

00:29:32.000 I was $100,000 to hire them.

00:29:32.000 $100,000. Wow. Yeah, to hire him. Yeah. It's $100,000 and we were paid off now so we're

00:29:39.000 fine and God is good. But we did end up hiring him and I had a flight that was

00:29:45.000 supposed to leave on Friday but I rented a car like that night, picked it up in

00:29:48.000 the morning and drove back because I knew like charges are probably coming

00:29:52.000 and I'd like to see my family for a couple hours before they pick me up.

00:29:55.000 When did the charges come?

00:29:56.000 The charges came on a Friday.

00:29:58.000 About how long after?

00:30:00.000 I left Thursday morning around 6 a.m.

00:30:02.000 And the next week?

00:30:03.000 No, the next day.

00:30:05.000 Oh, the next day?

00:30:05.000 Friday the next day.

00:30:06.000 Yeah, I think within 48 hours.

00:30:09.000 The AUSA, which is the Assistant United States Attorney's Office, was already in contact with my attorneys and vice versa, and they were talking about these are the charges we're bringing, and he's going to have to go to jail until we figure something out.

00:30:21.000 What were the initial charges they wanted to get you on?

00:30:23.000 Uh, it was, uh, violent entry, which is a misdemeanor.

00:30:26.000 It was, um, entering and remaining, uh, restricted building, which is a misdemeanor.

00:30:30.000 And then, um, it's glorified trespassing.

00:30:33.000 And then, uh, uh, felony theft for moving furniture 20 yards.

00:30:38.000 You did not end up with a felony or anything.

00:30:41.000 So how does it end up, you know, with your criminal case?

00:30:44.000 Where are you at now?

00:30:46.000 So again, my attorneys are awesome.

00:30:48.000 I'm not a felon, which is fantastic.

00:30:50.000 I get my voting rights back, which are very important to me.

00:30:53.000 And I also get my firearms back, which are equally important to me, which is good.

00:30:57.000 I did 75 days in a federal prison camp.

00:31:02.000 And then I did a $5,000 fine and I got 200 hours of community service.

00:31:06.000 But I'm enjoying my community service.

00:31:08.000 What kind of stuff are you doing as community service?

00:31:10.000 I am working for an organization called Adopt-A-Cop, which was founded for, it was after George Floyd, I believe it was after George Floyd, I get to read the statement again, but basically training cops in jiu-jitsu to be able to seduce suspects in a non-lethal manner.

00:31:27.000 So I work with law enforcement officers doing training programs, rolling with them.

00:31:31.000 I've got a big function I'm organizing in a couple weeks I can't talk about yet, but I'm enjoying it.

00:31:36.000 That's awesome!

00:31:37.000 Yeah, I'm enjoying it.

00:31:38.000 So, you end up in a prison camp, you said?

00:31:42.000 Yes.

00:31:42.000 What is that?

00:31:43.000 Is that not a big cell block with razor wire, or what does that mean?

00:31:48.000 So, I didn't know anything about prison before this started, so my idea of prison is like Shawshank Redemption, you know?

00:31:55.000 And Green Mile, so I was not super thrilled about it.

00:31:58.000 They have, I guess, four... I think it's four different levels of prison.

00:32:01.000 So there's, like, max security, where, like, the murderers go.

00:32:05.000 There's medium, which is, you know, not as bad, you know, scalable.

00:32:09.000 And then there's low, and then there's camp.

00:32:12.000 And they place you based on your charge, and there's, like, five different levels of things where it's, like, you know, or you have gang ties, you know, is your... is it a violent record, how many times you've been arrested, recidivism, and... there was something else, can't recall.

00:32:26.000 So it's a camp.

00:32:26.000 You're like, are you like outside with like a fire roasting marshmallows or what?

00:32:29.000 It's not, it's not that nice.

00:32:31.000 Um, so it's not like, it's not steles, not cages.

00:32:34.000 You know, it's open dorms.

00:32:35.000 You've seen Orange is the New Black?

00:32:37.000 No.

00:32:37.000 Open dorms so you can come and go as you please, or what?

00:32:40.000 Typically, yeah.

00:32:41.000 Like, in and out of your room, obviously.

00:32:42.000 In and out of your room, yeah.

00:32:43.000 Yes.

00:32:43.000 I mean, there's times you have, there's curfew, you have to be in.

00:32:46.000 There's also wake-up time, you have to be up.

00:32:48.000 And they give you jobs to do.

00:32:50.000 In the camp, the prisoners do everything.

00:32:52.000 They do the cooking, they do the laundry, they do the lawn maintenance, they do everything.

00:32:56.000 They keep you busy.

00:32:57.000 Oh, so what did you have to do?

00:32:58.000 I did nothing.

00:32:59.000 I told them I'm not going to work.

00:33:00.000 Oh, really?

00:33:00.000 I will not work for the government.

00:33:01.000 You cannot make me.

00:33:03.000 So they didn't make you?

00:33:04.000 No.

00:33:05.000 So let's, let's go back to this day on January 6th.

00:33:07.000 It sounds like from the story you've told us, you had, you had no real idea what was going to happen?

00:33:11.000 No.

00:33:12.000 You had no plans?

00:33:13.000 Nope.

00:33:13.000 You had no real intentions?

00:33:15.000 Nope.

00:33:15.000 I wanted to see an end of an era.

00:33:16.000 It was going to be Trump's last hurrah.

00:33:18.000 And I thought that would be a great thing to witness.

00:33:20.000 A little bit of history.

00:33:21.000 And, uh, you make your way into the Capitol kind of just bumbling and not really understanding what was going on around you.

00:33:26.000 Like a little bit, like you knew there was fighting, you knew there was trespassing, but you were just kind of like, Oh, I left the group of people who were fighting because that's not what I am.

00:33:34.000 And that's not what I agree with.

00:33:35.000 So there were a group of people that are doing that.

00:33:37.000 And I said, those aren't my people.

00:33:38.000 So I went and I found something else to do.

00:33:41.000 I think, you know, the reason why I want to hit on that is obviously the narrative is insurrection and all that, and while I certainly think there are people who are rioting and, you know, trying to do something.

00:33:50.000 The reason I don't like the phrase insurrection is that the idea that several hundred people can stand in a building and change a government is, like, absurd.

00:33:57.000 It's not the 1600s anymore.

00:33:59.000 And even then, it didn't even work for Hitler, right? 0.90

00:34:04.000 The Beer Hall Push.

00:34:05.000 He fires a gun in the air and declares he's taking the government over and then they just come and arrest him.

00:34:09.000 What do you think this is?

00:34:11.000 And then Hitler's rise to power was actually through politics because just trying to stand in a building doesn't accomplish anything. 0.85

00:34:17.000 I think that's an important distinction with everything we're hearing, especially with your story.

00:34:21.000 Obviously it doesn't speak to the people who were fighting and one guy was brutally hitting a cop.

00:34:25.000 He got serious charges.

00:34:26.000 And he should be in prison for that.

00:34:27.000 Absolutely.

00:34:28.000 You don't go and beat people for any reason.

00:34:31.000 No.

00:34:32.000 But I think the important thing is that a lot of the people who are there, there's two things.

00:34:37.000 One, in your case, you knew they were fighting.

00:34:40.000 You knew you were trespassing.

00:34:41.000 You got convicted.

00:34:42.000 You pleaded to a misdemeanor charge.

00:34:45.000 Then you went to prison.

00:34:46.000 There are some people who watched the police open the door and fan them in.

00:34:50.000 Yes.

00:34:50.000 This guy, what was his name?

00:34:51.000 Matthew Martin, I think his name was.

00:34:52.000 Is that his name?

00:34:53.000 acquitted on all charges. Because the judge said there's a video showing a cop waving him in.

00:34:57.000 And then the cops are saying, I agree with it. And then cops taking selfies with people.

00:35:00.000 Getting getting to fully understand this is extremely important if we're gonna,

00:35:04.000 you know, actually move forward with this, like in this country and try and solve these problems.

00:35:08.000 Well, it's case by case. And I think the problem with calling insurrectionist,

00:35:11.000 they're calling me an insurrectionist, every insurrectionist is you, you generalizing

00:35:16.000 It is case by case.

00:35:17.000 Some people did some things, some people did other things.

00:35:19.000 But to blanket statement everything is, I think, horrible.

00:35:23.000 I tell people it's kind of like looking at what happened with the Summer of Love, right?

00:35:28.000 I'm sure there were a lot of people that showed up to a protest that turned into a riot, you know?

00:35:34.000 And I support protests in all forms.

00:35:37.000 If you're angry about something, you don't like how something's going, go protest!

00:35:40.000 Go vote!

00:35:41.000 You're allowed to speak, as I mean, currently, you know?

00:35:44.000 But go do something about it, you know?

00:35:46.000 Not violent.

00:35:47.000 Don't encourage that.

00:35:48.000 But I tell them, you can't just call all the Black Lives Matter all rioters, because there are a lot of people there that were just protesting, you know?

00:35:56.000 And so I won't blanket statement that at all.

00:35:57.000 I won't.

00:35:58.000 But I want the same courtesy also given to some of us that were there, that were just protesting.

00:36:02.000 But there is still, at these Black Lives Matter protests, and on January 6th, there are people who... I guess January 6th is a little bit different, but for these protests where Black Lives Matter, for instance, in Portland, were throwing firebombs, there were people who were providing cover, whether intentionally or not, and at a certain point, it's kind of like, if you're standing there and you're watching people throw firebombs at a building, and you're like, well, I'm going to remain a part of whatever this is, at a certain point, you are playing a role in that.

00:36:29.000 Sure, sure.

00:36:30.000 So I guess maybe the same thing extends to us as well.

00:36:32.000 Like, you know, if we saw things and didn't leave, I mean, maybe that extends to us as well, by that logic.

00:36:37.000 I think so.

00:36:38.000 And I want to draw the distinction between the people who were let in by cops and the people who were there watching the fighting or fighting themselves.

00:36:45.000 Sure.

00:36:45.000 The issue with that is, I certainly don't think you deserve to be called an insurrectionist or be charged with felonies because other people were fighting, but you were part of a riot.

00:36:55.000 The police have to deal with you as much as they have to deal with people who are fighting, but the people who are fighting are the ones causing the problem.

00:37:00.000 And then, you know, be it Black Lives Matter or January 6th, being part of this big crowd and coming in and coming out is straining the resources to try and stop the violence.

00:37:08.000 Absolutely.

00:37:09.000 And I think it's a, I don't know why they're putting so many reasons towards it.

00:37:12.000 I mean, there's plenty of other things that I think most people would rather have solved than a couple of people who are walking around taking selfies.

00:37:19.000 Well, low-hanging fruit.

00:37:21.000 You know, that photo of you is iconic.

00:37:24.000 Everybody's seen it, and it's, you know, the look on your face is confidence.

00:37:29.000 So for the left, they view you as this arrogant guy who is engaging in this behavior with no remorse, and on the right, they view it as defiance.

00:37:39.000 Not to everybody.

00:37:40.000 But so, you know, they have to strike at symbols.

00:37:43.000 Sure, sure.

00:37:45.000 And I think so, like, it is biphasic.

00:37:46.000 I mean, you can feel multiple emotions at the same time, you know.

00:37:48.000 So there's part of me where it's like, holy cow, look where I am, you know.

00:37:52.000 So a smile will definitely come from that, where it's, you're witnessing history and things are going crazy.

00:37:57.000 So maybe it's a nervous smile, you know, maybe it's anxious, but at the same time, I mean, there's also fear that I'm feeling at the same time, because where is our country going and what the heck is happening here?

00:38:07.000 So you somehow managed to, you got approval to come on the show, is that what happened?

00:38:11.000 I did, yeah.

00:38:13.000 Initially it was a no.

00:38:15.000 I requested my PO office, it's probably gonna get me in trouble, it's fine.

00:38:19.000 I requested my PO office, hey, I'd like to go travel to do this podcast, it's, you know, I watch you guys all the time, I thought that'd be a really good experience.

00:38:27.000 And he seemed pretty cool with it up front.

00:38:30.000 And the reason I had to ask to travel is because part of my restrictions being on probation or supervised release is I have to stay in the middle district of Florida.

00:38:38.000 I can't leave that.

00:38:39.000 I've been there for the past almost two years while I was under a pretrial indictment.

00:38:45.000 So the opportunity to travel is, like, I really want to be able to do that again.

00:38:49.000 So I contacted the PO.

00:38:50.000 It's like, it shouldn't be a problem.

00:38:51.000 Let me let me run it up the ladder, you know, and we'll, you know, we'll talk about it.

00:38:55.000 A couple of days passed, you know, it's like, why don't you why don't you come in?

00:38:57.000 We'll have a conversation in person.

00:39:00.000 So I come in for the conversation in person.

00:39:02.000 And it's, it's implied and I don't want to throw in the bus because these people are doing their jobs.

00:39:07.000 And we can debate that later.

00:39:09.000 But He's like, you know, we got some emails we got some information that maybe it's not the best time you do that You know, like they said, you know, you can't make any money right now This would you would be profiting if you can like, oh, no, I'm buying my own plane ticket I'm renting my own car and get my own hotel I mean, I won't even eat food from you guys because I just don't I don't want anything, you know, and and he's like well I

00:39:30.000 The timing's also bad, you know, midterms are coming up, you know, you gotta consider your wife's job, you gotta consider she may lose it if you get in the media again, you know.

00:39:38.000 They'll write stories about you again, and, you know, the death threats will come, and I'm like, all those things are still happening.

00:39:45.000 You know, doing this or not, I still get letters in the mail, you know, threatening my family.

00:39:50.000 My wife still gets reviews from patients that are not her patients, giving her one star, messing with her credibility.

00:39:56.000 You know?

00:39:56.000 And the news is still writing stories about me.

00:39:59.000 They put together a montage a couple of weeks ago of all of the things I did in the Capitol.

00:40:03.000 You know?

00:40:04.000 So, I mean, nothing's really going to change except for maybe there'll be one extra story this week.

00:40:08.000 I thought for sure you walked out of there with the lectern, so it's nice to know you put it back down.

00:40:13.000 I thought you just walked out.

00:40:15.000 But that's the thing.

00:40:16.000 A lot of people believe that you took it out.

00:40:17.000 You left with it.

00:40:19.000 Well, because people like Jimmy Kimmel came out and said, this guy stole a lectern.

00:40:23.000 Yeah.

00:40:24.000 How?

00:40:25.000 That's interesting too because for all I know you could have just picked it up and put it

00:40:28.000 down like which is essentially what you did.

00:40:31.000 So they told you it was not a good idea or they outright said you can't do it.

00:40:36.000 It was a no up front.

00:40:38.000 It was a no up front.

00:40:39.000 We got a supervisor in the meeting because I wasn't taking no for an answer because it's

00:40:43.000 a free speech issue.

00:40:44.000 I'm allowed to speak.

00:40:45.000 There's nothing in my plea deal saying I can't speak.

00:40:47.000 It just says I can't profit for the next five years.

00:40:50.000 So if I get a chance to speak, I'm going to speak.

00:40:53.000 And it's not about money.

00:40:55.000 It isn't.

00:40:55.000 If they wanted a lifetime plea deal where I couldn't make money, I'm not signing a life sentence with you people.

00:41:00.000 It's not going to happen.

00:41:02.000 Five years seems more adequate.

00:41:03.000 We've got to talk down to five years, but it's not about the money.

00:41:06.000 It's about being able to speak and tell people what happened.

00:41:09.000 And for the life of me, we have all of these people who weren't there telling us what happened.

00:41:13.000 We don't hear from people who were actually there speaking about it.

00:41:15.000 And I think we're doing a disservice to the American people by not asking people who actually saw things and were actually there.

00:41:23.000 So then initially it was a no, but then it turned into a yes somehow?

00:41:26.000 It did.

00:41:27.000 I reached out to my attorneys and they are magicians.

00:41:31.000 Within an hour of a phone call and conversation, I won't speak about who they talked to or what they said, I got an email saying, send me your travel itinerary.

00:41:42.000 I kind of feel like the email was, if you don't let him speak, the story will be even bigger when you denied him the right to speak.

00:41:49.000 I think it's definitely that because they had hinted, well, we'll take it before the judge, you know, a Pontius Pilate effort.

00:41:53.000 It's like, we're not telling you no, but we're going to ask the judge if we can go.

00:41:56.000 And, um, and I, again, I explained it to my attorneys and he's like, there's no way a judge is going to put his name on, you're not allowed to speak, you know?

00:42:04.000 And that's kind of what we chatted about.

00:42:06.000 And lo and behold, within an hour, I get an email.

00:42:08.000 So here you are, and how have things been since?

00:42:12.000 You mentioned you're still getting death threats, people are going after your wife and things like that.

00:42:15.000 What's it like?

00:42:16.000 I mean, you're in Florida, which is good.

00:42:18.000 Where the God King reigns. 0.69

00:42:19.000 Yeah.

00:42:20.000 So how is it?

00:42:21.000 What's been happening since then?

00:42:23.000 Well, we live in a pretty red bubble.

00:42:26.000 Or where we stay.

00:42:26.000 So I have a lot of local support, like a ton of local support.

00:42:31.000 Do people do the wave to you when they see you?

00:42:33.000 It's constant.

00:42:34.000 I have a couple.

00:42:35.000 It's, I mean, people will take pictures with me.

00:42:37.000 They want to buy me a drink or they want to buy me a sandwich.

00:42:39.000 You know, like, oh, you're a hero.

00:42:41.000 You're a patriot.

00:42:41.000 I'm like, I moved furniture 20 yards and someone took a picture up.

00:42:44.000 Isn't it crazy how that happens, though?

00:42:46.000 It's like you made a mistake going in there, obviously.

00:42:51.000 Obviously.

00:42:52.000 You did relatively little, but it's become such a powerful symbol for both the left and the right.

00:42:57.000 Well, I think a lot of what I hear is people say, I wish I was there with you.

00:43:01.000 I'm glad you said something.

00:43:03.000 I'm glad you did something.

00:43:04.000 You know, I have people saying like, I wish you would have taken the lectern and, you know, shoved it, you know, somewhere to this who owns it.

00:43:11.000 And I'm like, well, no, no, no, no.

00:43:14.000 That's not good.

00:43:15.000 Like that's not how we win the culture war.

00:43:17.000 We have, that's, that's not the way forward.

00:43:19.000 I mean, easily.

00:43:21.000 That photo is propaganda weaponry, you know?

00:43:24.000 And again, like Jimmy Kimmel said, you stole it?

00:43:26.000 Is that what he did?

00:43:27.000 Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel came out and said, showed my picture that this guy stole a podium, you know, and it was like the day after or something.

00:43:33.000 And it was a lectern.

00:43:34.000 And it was a lectern.

00:43:34.000 Wrong.

00:43:35.000 I know.

00:43:35.000 Sources, buddy.

00:43:36.000 This is a thing I often talk about with The Summer of Love.

00:43:39.000 Black Lives Matter had net support of like 52%. 0.85

00:43:41.000 It was ridiculous. 0.58

00:43:44.000 The overwhelming majority of this country was like, yeah, Black Lives Matter is good. 0.96

00:43:46.000 Then the riots happened and it tanked.

00:43:49.000 The support for Black Lives Matter dropped lower after the riots than it had been in the lead up to George Floyd's death.

00:43:56.000 When George Floyd died, Black Lives Matter support skyrocketed.

00:43:59.000 And then the riots happened and...

00:44:01.000 They lost like a year of PR gains and they've not since recovered.

00:44:05.000 Could have become a political party instead, but instead of rioting they should have become a political party.

00:44:09.000 And now it's rife with scandals and weird money stories and everything.

00:44:13.000 They imploded over that stuff.

00:44:15.000 Nothing's gonna come of that.

00:44:16.000 And so I mean, here's the, I'll call this like a warning as well as a point about how people behave.

00:44:23.000 When I've been reading about, obviously I read about civil war all the time because I won't shut up about it, right?

00:44:29.000 And I was thinking recently that it's not a civil war because civil war implies two organized factions in some capacity fighting.

00:44:36.000 And I would say, okay, if you're talking about information warfare and political civil war, definitely.

00:44:40.000 But if we're talking about, will this lead to states seceding and fighting?

00:44:45.000 Maybe.

00:44:46.000 But I said I wanted to revise that because it may actually be more revolutionary.

00:44:49.000 You know, James Lindsay mentioned that we're in some kind of revolution.

00:44:52.000 You take a look at the splitting factions within law enforcement and the federal government.

00:44:56.000 And then I started reading more about Weimar Germany because I've read a little bit.

00:45:01.000 And I've read it before about the Beer Hall Push, which is Hitler went into the Munich Beer Hall and then fires a gun in the air and is like, we're taking over! 0.53

00:45:09.000 And then they come and arrest him.

00:45:10.000 I think some people died.

00:45:11.000 And then he goes to jail, and he got like a five-year sentence, served like eight months, dictated Mein Kampf.

00:45:17.000 Then he gets out, and then what do they do?

00:45:19.000 Run for office.

00:45:20.000 So, I'll put it this way.

00:45:23.000 That's a warning and also a point.

00:45:26.000 The violence didn't work.

00:45:27.000 What worked is winning hearts and minds, and then going and running in politics.

00:45:31.000 The scary thing is a very awful and evil psychotic person used that to try and gain power. 0.92

00:45:37.000 Now it's a bit different with Soviet Russia, a bunch of crazy people, but that's the left, the communist stuff. 0.93

00:45:43.000 They go out and get violent and then they're allowed to do it. 0.79

00:45:45.000 What did James Lindsay call it?

00:45:48.000 Something tolerance?

00:45:49.000 Repressive tolerance.

00:45:51.000 So I wonder if we're heading towards a revolutionary period, you know?

00:45:56.000 I want to be as white-pilled as possible.

00:45:58.000 I'm watching primaries, which I just voted in my first primary ever.

00:46:02.000 I am no longer a registered Independent.

00:46:04.000 I am a registered Republican.

00:46:06.000 I am proud of it because I think that we need to make a change.

00:46:09.000 I do.

00:46:10.000 I just voted in my first primary and I want to be white-pilled and I'm watching what's happening and I think it might actually work.

00:46:16.000 I think we might actually be able to win the Colter.

00:46:18.000 I'm hoping we do.

00:46:19.000 My fear is that the pendulum has already been set in motion and I don't know where the stop point is going to be.

00:46:25.000 I don't.

00:46:26.000 You know, with Carrie Lake winning, and it was a nail-biter, because the night before, it looked like she was down a little bit, and everyone was like, no way.

00:46:34.000 And the next day, she swept every county, and it's like, ah, okay, there it is.

00:46:37.000 That's what everyone expected.

00:46:38.000 She won, then Hagerman won, Joe Kent won, and we're seeing a bunch of primaries where America first, populist types are actually winning.

00:46:46.000 And it's like, now more than ever, it's the time to tell everybody, like, dude, back away from the violence.

00:46:50.000 You're winning.

00:46:51.000 You're winning on these fronts.

00:46:52.000 Now's the time to go out, rally your friends, go vote, because you are winning.

00:46:55.000 Yeah, you know I sense like it's a global revolution is kind of what we're in the middle of right now It's a conscious what I've started YouTube in 2006.

00:47:02.000 My channel said a revolution of the mind I found out years later.

00:47:06.000 That's what Mao called his And I'm glad I got away from that leftism cult mindset because I was really like family is whatever you're familiar Whatever you want it to be kind of weird, you know, like going that Post-modernist route.

00:47:19.000 But I definitely think because of the internet or along with the internet, people around earth are realizing that they're under a boot of totalitarianism.

00:47:26.000 A lot of people are and they want out.

00:47:28.000 They like American republicanism.

00:47:29.000 They love the idea of free speech and second amendment rights.

00:47:33.000 A lot of people are able to communicate.

00:47:36.000 through their governments without their government intervention and are kind of there's a desire for a new world order i mean it's very obvious that the old liberal economic order is is faltering yeah but i think both factions have their own desire for a different type of new world order that fits their own ideologies and i think that's where we are right now Yeah, there's at least two.

00:47:54.000 There's so many different ideas of how it could come.

00:47:58.000 There's three.

00:47:59.000 There's the liberal international economy, and that's the powerful elites, the banking cartels, the IMF, you know, swift payment systems.

00:48:05.000 Bank for International Settlements, that's the brand.

00:48:07.000 Yeah, then there's the left, and they want a socialist utopian revolution, worker rights.

00:48:12.000 And then there's the right, they want a national, you know, re-emergence, nationalist re-emergence of sovereign nations that have international treaties and ties and things like that.

00:48:21.000 One of those sounds like a good time.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, you know, my attitude is like, hey, I like the idea of global governance via treaty, meaning like no council of elites who can strip your rights from you, but potentially a world court is preferable to world war.

00:48:39.000 Sure.

00:48:40.000 I love it.

00:48:40.000 It's an extension of federalism, United States federalism.

00:48:41.000 country that they have no authority.

00:48:43.000 It is only outside the borders between countries where they would they would

00:48:47.000 they would intervene in any capacity.

00:48:48.000 I love it. It's an extension of federalism, United States federalism.

00:48:51.000 It's got to be.

00:48:52.000 I mean, it makes so much sense that the world would adopt that.

00:48:54.000 The federal government has the ability in the United States to go to states and

00:48:58.000 enforce law.

00:48:59.000 I'm saying not that.

00:49:00.000 I'm saying there would be no global court that could go into Illinois and arrest someone for an international thing.

00:49:05.000 It would be up to the country to actually go and do it.

00:49:09.000 But if there was an issue of like a U.S.

00:49:11.000 plane flying over to another country and then doing something, that's when a world court would intervene and be like, we're going to stop this and not allow it.

00:49:18.000 So it would only be a direct international matters.

00:49:20.000 And my point there is like, for one, maybe it needs some thinking and maybe there's an argument and debates to be made over it, but I'm kind of like, hey, how do you stop world war?

00:49:28.000 How do you stop people from blowing each other up?

00:49:30.000 Well, I don't want anybody coming to America and being like, you can't do this, you can't do that.

00:49:33.000 No, we're our country, we have our borders, we will function the way we deem is right for us.

00:49:37.000 You go do your thing.

00:49:39.000 Instead of us going and bombing each other, maybe there is a mediation system in world court that will One of the mediation systems that's being pushed is this, what do you call it, social credit score.

00:49:50.000 They think that if you can, like, get people to self-censor and kind of control people's money, that then you will pacify them.

00:49:57.000 But, you know, pacification oftentimes means, like, destruction and death of people when they're like, we're going to pacify the population.

00:50:03.000 That's very nice, because pacifists don't want war.

00:50:05.000 But in reality, when you see what happens when someone pacifies a country is oftentimes bombs are being dropped.

00:50:10.000 The military is no longer able to fight back, kind of.

00:50:13.000 I don't want that.

00:50:13.000 And I don't like the social credit score stuff.

00:50:16.000 But I feel like we're doing it to ourselves with upvotes and downvotes on social media and likes and stuff.

00:50:21.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:50:22.000 We'll shift here.

00:50:23.000 From the Daily Mail, Democrats' civil war over student loans explodes.

00:50:27.000 Biden is blasted as out of touch and told he is punishing those without a degree by his own party as new projections say it will cost Americans $500 billion.

00:50:35.000 This is...

00:50:39.000 Maybe a white pill moment.

00:50:40.000 Joe Biden wanted to pander to progressives.

00:50:43.000 The problem is the Democratic Party is split between the establishment moderate types and the far left.

00:50:49.000 Joe Biden can't win.

00:50:51.000 He goes and says, OK, fine, I'll give you some student loan forgiveness, which he doesn't really have.

00:50:55.000 I don't believe he has the authority to actually do this.

00:50:57.000 It's a matter for Congress.

00:50:59.000 Yeah.

00:50:59.000 And then they're trying to claim he's got an emergency ability to do it.

00:51:02.000 The left says it's not enough.

00:51:04.000 What is this?

00:51:05.000 You know they're happy with some of it, but it's not enough.

00:51:06.000 The Democrats are now coming after him being like, you are giving money to the highest

00:51:11.000 incomers in this country.

00:51:12.000 It's an insult to taxpayers.

00:51:14.000 It's an insult to the working class. 1.00

00:51:15.000 And it's an insult to those who did not take out loans because they receive no benefit.

00:51:18.000 And the Republicans are sitting there going, uh-huh.

00:51:21.000 Exactly.

00:51:22.000 So this sounds like the Democrats are going to get crushed come November.

00:51:27.000 They were looking good in that New York 19 special election.

00:51:32.000 Then Biden comes out and does this.

00:51:34.000 The left, they don't like Joe Biden.

00:51:35.000 Leftists do not like Joe Biden.

00:51:37.000 He's not going to win them over.

00:51:38.000 All he's doing is pissing off the swing districts.

00:51:40.000 That to me is crazy.

00:51:42.000 But it sounds like the way things are going.

00:51:44.000 Republican sweep.

00:51:46.000 I don't like how they phrased this article here.

00:51:48.000 Democrats civil war.

00:51:49.000 I don't like that they're softening that term civil war.

00:51:51.000 I feel like we're doing a real disservice to our species if we do that, because civil war is not a good thing, even in metaphor.

00:51:57.000 Well, they're just conditioning you to hear their words several more and more.

00:52:00.000 So when it starts happening, it's like, oh, it's been around for a while.

00:52:03.000 We've been in for a little bit.

00:52:05.000 Secondly, I just posted on Twitter earlier, I'm having issues with this loan repayment thing because I'm in this bracket under $100,000 salary.

00:52:12.000 It's like $100,000 salary.

00:52:16.000 $25,000 in student loans, probably $8,000 of it or $10,000 of it as interest that's accrued over the last 20 years.

00:52:23.000 I'm not comfortable taking this money if they're going to print it from the Federal Reserve.

00:52:26.000 I will not take this money if they print it from the Federal Reserve.

00:52:28.000 I don't know.

00:52:29.000 Do you have to apply for it?

00:52:30.000 I don't know.

00:52:31.000 There's a website I heard that's already down.

00:52:33.000 That's already down?

00:52:33.000 Yeah, that sounds right.

00:52:34.000 I'm hopping out of this.

00:52:35.000 I'm not going to do this to my fellow Americans, man.

00:52:37.000 They do not deserve to pay my bill.

00:52:39.000 That's insane.

00:52:40.000 This is the craziest thing, too.

00:52:41.000 It's like a bunch of conservatives are coming out saying, like, this is wrong.

00:52:45.000 Student debt forgiveness is wrong.

00:52:47.000 And then the left is responding by showing screenshots of them having accepted PPP loans.

00:52:52.000 I think it's weird that they took PPP loans.

00:52:54.000 I gotta be honest.

00:52:55.000 I know there was a reason to do it.

00:52:56.000 There was market stagnation and, you know, people don't want to go under.

00:53:00.000 But I kind of look at some of these companies and I'm like, oh, these companies make a lot of money.

00:53:04.000 Did they really need it?

00:53:04.000 Because I'll tell you this, Timcast did not.

00:53:06.000 Neither did DailyWire.

00:53:08.000 DailyWire didn't do it.

00:53:09.000 They did not, no.

00:53:09.000 Really?

00:53:10.000 In fact, they were circulating a screenshot of a guy named Ben Shapiro far and wide saying, look at this, the DailyWire took PPP funds.

00:53:17.000 They never did.

00:53:18.000 The DailyWire made a point of never taking any PPP loans.

00:53:21.000 In fact, if you look at the full screenshot of this Ben Shapiro, he's actually a real estate agent.

00:53:26.000 So like, no, I didn't do that.

00:53:27.000 He's a real estate agent.

00:53:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:29.000 They're just lying.

00:53:29.000 They're lying.

00:53:30.000 Tim cast.

00:53:31.000 I will say this.

00:53:32.000 I outright was like, no way.

00:53:34.000 I'm not going anywhere near that.

00:53:35.000 You know why?

00:53:36.000 Because I knew it's like, for one, it's all publicly available information.

00:53:40.000 And I'm like, I don't want that money.

00:53:41.000 I don't need that money.

00:53:42.000 I would rather take the hit and then dip into the red and have to go into our rainy day funds or whatever.

00:53:47.000 Then accept these PPP loans or whatever.

00:53:49.000 It's because they're printing it.

00:53:51.000 They're devaluing our currency by doing it.

00:53:53.000 If they were going to the loan companies and saying, OK, you're not getting your usurious interest back because it was unethical in the first place, that I'd be fine with.

00:54:02.000 Then I'm like, yeah, let's erase what they think they deserve.

00:54:05.000 But I'm not going to tax the citizens by printing more.

00:54:08.000 That's crazy.

00:54:10.000 Tuition's just gonna go up more.

00:54:13.000 There's a meme where it's that meme of the guy and he's like looking all happy and it says when they forgive 10k in student loan debt and the next one is him looking shocked and it says when your tuition goes up 10k next year.

00:54:24.000 Dude if you know so Biden apparently is saying like we got to make sure they can't raise tuition but you can't?

00:54:29.000 Like what can you really do?

00:54:31.000 And if I'm a business And I sell, you know, I don't know, UFOs or whatever.

00:54:36.000 Oh no, how about this?

00:54:38.000 I have a business.

00:54:39.000 We sell memberships over at TimCast.com.

00:54:42.000 Sign up today.

00:54:43.000 If the government came out and said they were going to cover $10 of everyone's memberships, if they had one, I'd be like, oh, it's $20 now.

00:54:52.000 Of course.

00:54:53.000 That's what happens.

00:54:54.000 I mean, honestly, I wouldn't do that, but that's kind of the idea of any business.

00:54:57.000 They'd be like, okay.

00:54:58.000 Because for the average person, they're not getting hurt because the government's subsidizing it.

00:55:03.000 It is hurting everybody because it's stripping money from everybody to pay for a few.

00:55:06.000 And there's also an argument, I mean, what about the people who already paid off their student loans?

00:55:09.000 We have $170,000 left from my wife's student loans and we've been paying on that for 12

00:55:16.000 years.

00:55:17.000 And even if the money were offered to us, we're not in the bracket or whatever, but

00:55:20.000 even if the money were offered to us, I would take it because I know where it's going to

00:55:24.000 be paid from.

00:55:25.000 And we keep bankrupting.

00:55:27.000 We have kids.

00:55:28.000 I don't want to leave my kids more debt than what we started with.

00:55:33.000 And it's not gonna be the last time they do this.

00:55:34.000 So is it a one-time thing?

00:55:36.000 How many times are you gonna forgive $10,000?

00:55:38.000 How much more money?

00:55:40.000 They did this thing where there's like a 10% cap.

00:55:43.000 This is a major move towards outright free college.

00:55:47.000 What they're saying is already, I think, after 20 years, the loans dissolve and are forgiven or something like that.

00:55:53.000 And then they're saying there's a max cap of like 10% of your income can be paid towards it.

00:55:57.000 Now they've reduced it to 5%.

00:55:58.000 I could be getting that wrong.

00:55:59.000 It's something like that.

00:56:00.000 It's on their website.

00:56:01.000 And so already they're basically eliminating people's student loan debt.

00:56:05.000 Look, on paper, I'm totally in favor of debt forgiveness.

00:56:10.000 And I just think that if you're gonna go for student loans, let's start with mortgages too.

00:56:14.000 Let's alleviate debt for a lot of people.

00:56:17.000 Trade school.

00:56:18.000 Trade school, whatever your debt may be, and here's the way I see it.

00:56:22.000 All right, you wanna give everybody 10K for their student loans?

00:56:25.000 Everyone else gets a 10K tax credit.

00:56:27.000 Everyone.

00:56:28.000 You can't discriminate for this.

00:56:30.000 But I will say, the way they're going about it is wrong.

00:56:33.000 What I would say is, interest payments should be forgiven, because interest is where it's like, someone takes out a $50,000 loan, and then 10 years later they're like, I've paid $70,000 back in 2030.

00:56:44.000 And it's like, what?

00:56:45.000 Like, how does that make sense?

00:56:46.000 You've given way more than inflation and principal.

00:56:50.000 I think people have to pay back their principals.

00:56:52.000 You don't get free money.

00:56:53.000 There should be some interest for inflation, but not this insane compounding BS.

00:56:58.000 And that's a place to start.

00:57:00.000 However, the real place you start is ending the loan system.

00:57:04.000 Just shutting it down.

00:57:05.000 None of that.

00:57:06.000 But I don't know.

00:57:07.000 I do want to say the main point of this is not to talk about student loans, but to talk about Republicans winning in November.

00:57:12.000 Because if everyone's getting pissed off about this, Well, how much of this is just a bribe, too?

00:57:16.000 Like, $10,000 is not the $50,000 they promised.

00:57:18.000 Maybe it's just like a, well, we gotta do something.

00:57:21.000 How much of it is just a bribe for voters?

00:57:23.000 Well, if he was smart, Biden, he'd say, we're going to give out, I'm going to sign an order, $10,000.

00:57:29.000 And then, you know, when, when next Congress, you know, we're going to come together and, and, and, and figure out how to do 50.

00:57:35.000 If the Democrats win.

00:57:38.000 And then people are going to be like, there's the bribe.

00:57:41.000 And that's like, that's a smart way to go about doing it.

00:57:43.000 Maybe he'll come out and say it and say, I know people are unhappy that 10 wasn't enough.

00:57:47.000 In the next session of Congress, they can approve more or something like that.

00:57:51.000 And that's where, as the dealer, you give them a little taste, get them all excited

00:57:55.000 and then say, you want more?

00:57:56.000 Now you got to pay.

00:57:57.000 And that would be in the form of, hey, vote for us.

00:57:59.000 So there's that famous quote by that dude, I can't remember his last name, it's like

00:58:02.000 Tocqueville or something.

00:58:03.000 And he said, the American Republic will persist until Congress learns that it can bribe the

00:58:08.000 American people with their own money. 0.70

00:58:09.000 And that's where we're headed.

00:58:11.000 Dare we say Biden is maybe revealing a pattern.

00:58:15.000 One might even think he might not be a great father or grandfather.

00:58:19.000 Maybe he tries to solve problems by throwing money over the line.

00:58:24.000 I'm basing this on nothing.

00:58:25.000 I just get the feeling.

00:58:27.000 I'm looking at the fruit of the tree.

00:58:29.000 His kids turned out fine.

00:58:31.000 You know, I just I see a pattern.

00:58:33.000 Maybe if we connect some dots, I don't know.

00:58:36.000 I don't know.

00:58:36.000 That's illegal.

00:58:37.000 I think questioning Joe Biden's parental abilities is a step over the line, George.

00:58:43.000 And we here at TimCast do not tolerate the besmirching of such an honorable man.

00:58:47.000 Well, perhaps he should throw me some money to get my mouth shut.

00:58:50.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:58:52.000 But no, I mean, really, this does frighten me as a person who's just watching.

00:58:58.000 If their solution, and I'll throw this at the whole Democrat Party, whatever, If your solution is to throw money at a problem instead of

00:59:05.000 looking at the root of the problem and trying to solve...

00:59:08.000 For instance, a lot of people are accepted into college who may be...

00:59:12.000 I dare to say this...

00:59:14.000 They don't belong there.

00:59:15.000 And there's this whole industry of just putting butts in seats because it makes the colleges look like they're this exploding business.

00:59:25.000 There's lots of people going to school. 0.93

00:59:26.000 You get a lot of crap degrees that mean basically nothing, flooding the market with people, a labor force, who really don't deserve to have these degrees, I dare to say. 0.86

00:59:37.000 So, they just kind of fail their way through college. 0.98

00:59:40.000 They accept loans from whatever people are going to give you.

00:59:45.000 I don't know, I'm going to give you a loan and you're going to pay me this much in interest in a few years.

00:59:49.000 They can't pay it because they can't find work.

00:59:52.000 Inflation's happening, so now those loans are basically, I don't know what's happening to the value of the loan, but you still have to pay the interest.

00:59:59.000 We, the taxpayers, are going to be left with the bill anyway.

01:00:01.000 Maybe that was the plan from the beginning.

01:00:03.000 But there's this fake industry of, I'm a college dropout, so I'm biased, but I don't believe in this idea of, I own a piece of paper that says I'm qualified, therefore you should hire me, as opposed to, I'm just a hardworking person, hey, maybe apprentice me, hire me for a few years, and then I'll be qualified.

01:00:24.000 It's not even that.

01:00:24.000 I mean, look, man, if I said, we need to commission some art, and then, you know, Adam comes over here and he says, I have an art degree.

01:00:32.000 I'd be like, that's great.

01:00:34.000 Where's the art?

01:00:35.000 Yeah, where's the art?

01:00:36.000 And you go, well, I don't have any, but I have a degree that shows you that I know how to do it.

01:00:40.000 And then, you know, George comes over here and is like, here's a picture of my art.

01:00:43.000 Who am I going to hire?

01:00:44.000 The guy who has a picture, I'm like, I like how that looks, make me one of those.

01:00:48.000 Not the guy who's got a piece of paper and a degree.

01:00:49.000 And who paid tens of thousands of dollars to have that piece of paper, which doesn't necessarily prove that you're able to do any of this stuff.

01:00:57.000 Which is, I think, we're being sold, our generation especially, was sold this idea of you have to go to college in order to get a job.

01:01:04.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:01:06.000 Employers were convinced that there was value to that piece of paper.

01:01:09.000 I'm sorry, I'm a little bitter about it.

01:01:12.000 Leaving people like me who I think, you know, I was very hardworking and stuff and I really wanted to do what I did, you know, comics and stuff.

01:01:19.000 But I don't think a lot of places even considered me when I was, you know, sending my CV to people.

01:01:24.000 They didn't even consider me a candidate.

01:01:27.000 It's also made a high school diploma worthless.

01:01:30.000 So a lot of kids are, you know, they're pretty much decided by 9th or 10th grade if they're going to college or not.

01:01:35.000 You know, they kind of check.

01:01:36.000 I mean, I know I was that way when I grew up.

01:01:39.000 I was in high school, didn't really have a lot of interest in going to college, so I kind of just played video games and hung out, you know?

01:01:45.000 And now having kids, you know, there's that social pressure.

01:01:47.000 It's like, I have to go to college because I want my kids to go to college.

01:01:51.000 I know it's just it's social engineering and I'm supposed to want to do that because good fathers do that.

01:01:56.000 They make sure their sons have good degrees and they can take care of their kids.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, I have to agree with George.

01:02:01.000 I think that this is fully systemic and I think it stems from the problem of encouraging kids.

01:02:06.000 I think the reason we have so much underwater basket weaving and so much student loan debt right now is because kids have been told that college is the only way to go.

01:02:15.000 This is what you're supposed to do.

01:02:16.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:02:18.000 And they're told this is the way you're supposed to earn money.

01:02:21.000 And for a certain time, so people got their connection backwards.

01:02:24.000 It's a little bit like the self-esteem issue that I talk about sometimes.

01:02:27.000 They thought that people who got college degrees earned more money because they were more committed to their job because their degree.

01:02:34.000 It was like a big blob.

01:02:35.000 It was very important that all these things went together.

01:02:37.000 The fact of the matter was that the people who are super committed would be the ones who would end up going to college for that specialty and then who would end up going into that profession and being really focused and really talented at what they were doing.

01:02:49.000 Well, high school doesn't really specialize you or set you up to go into college.

01:02:52.000 Right, right, that too.

01:02:54.000 It trains you to go to college.

01:02:55.000 It trains you to go to, it teaches you how to school, right?

01:02:57.000 But anyone who's got an associate's degree will tell you the first two years of college are the last two years of high school, you know?

01:03:03.000 But again, the high school diploma is meaningless now.

01:03:05.000 So maybe a solution is to make high school meaningful.

01:03:08.000 These kids after ninth or 10th grade could be taking a two year apprenticeship program and be coming out as a plumber's assistant or an electrician assistant.

01:03:15.000 We can, we can make meaningful solutions with public high school.

01:03:20.000 I just don't see that.

01:03:21.000 I don't see the desire for them to do that because they want you to go to college.

01:03:25.000 No, and the scary thing is that I see this pattern for the past few years, but it's been happening for a long time of borrowing from the future so we can pay the bills of today.

01:03:34.000 Our kids are going to inherit this.

01:03:37.000 I don't even know what to call it.

01:03:39.000 Someone's going to pay this bill.

01:03:41.000 It's, it's maybe going to be us in 10, 20 years.

01:03:43.000 I don't know.

01:03:44.000 Maybe they're going to try to sell Alaska to somebody or something, but where is this money going to come from?

01:03:49.000 Well, they could just print more.

01:03:50.000 Have we tried that?

01:03:51.000 Oh, we have to try that.

01:03:52.000 You're right.

01:03:52.000 Just print more.

01:03:53.000 Let's do that.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, we could try that.

01:03:56.000 For a hundred years.

01:03:57.000 Wasn't it March of 2020 that fractional reserve banking ended and it went infinite reserve?

01:04:01.000 Yeah, they can print as much as they want now.

01:04:03.000 That's fine.

01:04:04.000 But they could go wrong.

01:04:04.000 It used to be that you could issue a loan creating money up to, what is it, 90% of your holding?

01:04:11.000 And then, yeah, the way it would work is like, I put $100 in Bank of Ian.

01:04:15.000 Ian then issues a loan for $90 to George, But he still has the $100.

01:04:21.000 The $90 is created upon issuance of the loan.

01:04:24.000 Then George gives me the $90, and then I create... Well, George then can take that $90 that... So, Tim, you give me $100, I have $100, I can give you $90, I keep my $100.

01:04:32.000 You keep your $90, but you can loan out $81 to someone else.

01:04:36.000 They can keep their $81, but they can loan out $73 to someone else.

01:04:38.000 No, exactly.

01:04:39.000 He then deposits in another bank, and then they issue another loan.

01:04:42.000 It's a game of hot potato.

01:04:43.000 Someone's going to be left holding it.

01:04:44.000 that in March of 2020, they basically said, you don't need reserves anymore.

01:04:47.000 I can loan you 10 million, you can loan 10 million of that.

01:04:50.000 I wonder if you can loan 11 million of your 10 million.

01:04:52.000 Banks can just literally snap their fingers and write money to anybody they want.

01:04:55.000 It's a game of hot potato.

01:04:57.000 Someone's going to be left holding it or musical chairs or whatever.

01:05:01.000 It's sort of, but it's a game of hot potato that like while the hot potato game is playing,

01:05:06.000 someone is like, they're juggling a bunch of potatoes and then the rich people are like chucking the potatoes

01:05:10.000 into a box behind them when no one's looking.

01:05:12.000 And then they're like, okay, guys, I'm leaving.

01:05:14.000 keep playing the game I don't want and then they walk away with a box full of potatoes.

01:05:16.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:05:17.000 It's gonna be a silly pours that end up paying it.

01:05:19.000 I mean, I definitely think it's gonna go down to a two-class system.

01:05:22.000 The middle class continues to shrink, and I think what they're afraid of is generational wealth, right?

01:05:27.000 It's very difficult to amass generational wealth to set yourself up.

01:05:31.000 And I think the problem with Generational Wealth is that you eventually start gaining power and influence.

01:05:36.000 And the less people that can have power and influence, the less we can change the system.

01:05:42.000 I just saw that PayPal is changing their terms of service so that soon, like within a month, you're not going to be able to send money to an offshore business, and an offshore business is not going to be able to send money to your personal PayPal account.

01:05:54.000 So that makes me think that they're trying to stop people from using offshore banks.

01:05:58.000 Yeah, I got a notification on one of my things of they're trying to do anti-money laundering stuff.

01:06:03.000 They're really pushing this, which I think is the funniest thing in the world because they're allowed to money launder.

01:06:09.000 I'm not saying anything.

01:06:11.000 Interesting.

01:06:11.000 Somebody's money laundering, but we're not allowed to.

01:06:13.000 Let's keep buying crypto.

01:06:14.000 I don't want to, by the way.

01:06:15.000 I'm already in so deep.

01:06:16.000 Well, the Federal Reserve is, I mean, they work with the Swiss Bank for International Settlements.

01:06:22.000 You want to know what I think?

01:06:23.000 I think Davos Group, I think the World Economic Forum, they want crypto.

01:06:26.000 Like a new world currency?

01:06:28.000 Well, Bitcoin is fully trackable, and with the right AI, you can see who is doing what, where, when, and how, and you can even infer as to why.

01:06:38.000 And they're all big fans of it.

01:06:40.000 A lot of these global elites.

01:06:41.000 I mean, BlackRock, didn't they just buy a bunch of Bitcoin?

01:06:44.000 I don't know.

01:06:44.000 I was gonna say, I read an article, and I read a headline that said that BlackRock had bought into crypto.

01:06:51.000 These institutions keep coming out and they say things like, don't don't buy crypto.

01:06:55.000 And then people panic and they sell it all to them, to these institutions.

01:06:59.000 There are hedge funds also that a couple of my Reddit last year that were actually telling people with bigger portfolios to make sure you start buying crypto now.

01:07:06.000 It was a couple of big hedge funds.

01:07:08.000 That's just about.

01:07:10.000 2019 Blackrock, this is from Investopedia, Blackrock rips Bitcoin, colon.

01:07:14.000 Buy crypto only if you're ready for complete losses, which is the quote.

01:07:18.000 And then from two weeks ago, Blackrock announces new Bitcoin trust.

01:07:23.000 That's the game.

01:07:24.000 They want you to sell it at dirt so they can buy it up.

01:07:27.000 Now I'm not telling you what to buy.

01:07:28.000 I'm just telling you I've got crypto and I ain't selling it.

01:07:31.000 I'm holding on to it because It's got its functions, it's got its purposes.

01:07:35.000 I have a couple different ones.

01:07:36.000 But I think it's going to... I don't have Bitcoin because I think it's going to be worth millions of dollars.

01:07:41.000 I do think it's going to be worth millions of dollars.

01:07:43.000 I have it because I think it's going to become a principal utility in the future.

01:07:46.000 It's going to become substantially more widespread in use.

01:07:49.000 And I think the global elites are very, very interested in trackable digital currencies.

01:07:54.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:07:54.000 Yeah.

01:07:56.000 Let's jump to this next story.

01:07:57.000 And this one's... So interesting.

01:07:59.000 This one's very interesting.

01:08:00.000 Yeah.

01:08:01.000 From Politico.

01:08:02.000 Trump White House exerted pressure on FDA for COVID-19 emergency use authorizations House report finds.

01:08:09.000 The report by House Democrats examining the pandemic says Trump officials sought vaccine approvals to sway voters before the 2020 election.

01:08:15.000 Duh, isn't that a good thing?

01:08:17.000 I can't believe Trump did this to us.

01:08:18.000 I don't understand.

01:08:19.000 This is so insane.

01:08:20.000 They're starting to attack Trump because he got the vaccines out?

01:08:24.000 That was like the good thing Trump did.

01:08:26.000 I can't believe Trump did this to us.

01:08:28.000 You know what?

01:08:29.000 I'm changing my opinion on him right now.

01:08:31.000 Here we go.

01:08:32.000 Last night we had James Lindsay on and on the after show we talked about the Galean

01:08:34.000 dialectic and I was like, what's a dialectic?

01:08:36.000 A dialectic is when you create an opposition to what you're doing so that you can create a conflict, which will get a new thing that you want.

01:08:43.000 So this, now they're creating a dialectic.

01:08:46.000 Now what they're expecting is information's going to come out, oh, I got damaged by the vaccine.

01:08:51.000 Oh, vaccines hurt me.

01:08:52.000 Now they're trying to be like, okay, here's going to come the thing to be a push against this Trump so that we're going to get our outcome.

01:08:58.000 Maybe, maybe.

01:08:59.000 I don't, I don't know.

01:09:00.000 I do know.

01:09:01.000 And James was like, I was like, how do you stop that from, how do you defeat the dialectic?

01:09:03.000 He's like, well, you expose it.

01:09:05.000 It's like a magic trick.

01:09:05.000 If you show people how to do the magic trick before you show them the trick.

01:09:08.000 But, but, but hold on.

01:09:10.000 I don't know if I agree with that.

01:09:11.000 Um, I know there's a lot of people that are not fans of the vaccine.

01:09:15.000 Trump got booed himself.

01:09:17.000 YouTube recently removed the rule, and I don't know when, but probably in the past couple of weeks.

01:09:22.000 It used to be that YouTube said you could not make claims, saying that, how do I phrase this?

01:09:29.000 You could not issue claims that the vaccine did not prevent or play a role in the prevention of COVID.

01:09:36.000 It's a very weird legal language.

01:09:38.000 That's gone now.

01:09:39.000 Now you can't claim that the vaccine doesn't prevent serious illness or death.

01:09:45.000 It's like, it's weirdly phrased.

01:09:46.000 But basically, you can now claim, I guess, on YouTube, the vaccine does not stop the infection of COVID or something like that.

01:09:53.000 The rules have changed.

01:09:54.000 Here's the crazy thing.

01:09:55.000 YouTube's rules used to say that you couldn't claim masks cause brain damage.

01:10:00.000 They removed that.

01:10:02.000 Really?

01:10:02.000 I mean, that's weird.

01:10:03.000 Like, what?

01:10:03.000 Like, I don't think it does.

01:10:05.000 But you're allowed to claim it?

01:10:07.000 As in, like, it stops oxygen?

01:10:09.000 That was actually one of the rules.

01:10:10.000 The rule used to be that you couldn't claim masks reduced your oxygen level.

01:10:14.000 Now you can.

01:10:15.000 They removed that rule against it.

01:10:17.000 They also removed the rule.

01:10:18.000 They said you could not claim masks cause lung cancer.

01:10:21.000 They removed that rule.

01:10:22.000 And that's weird.

01:10:23.000 Yo, I'm sorry.

01:10:24.000 I just gotta say, I'm not a doctor or anything, but I'm pretty sure masks don't cause lung cancer.

01:10:27.000 I don't think so.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I see a lot of people wearing masks alone in a car and I could see a correlate of brain damage with that.

01:10:33.000 I see what you're saying, but look, look, look, you know, correlation is not causation.

01:10:38.000 Here's what I want to say about all of this.

01:10:40.000 YouTube clearly has no idea what they're talking about.

01:10:42.000 And I don't think, I think everybody should be very careful about talking to politicians and pundits about their health care.

01:10:48.000 I think Fauci, yeah, he was a doctor 30 years ago.

01:10:51.000 He's a doctor by title now.

01:10:54.000 I wouldn't take advice from TV doctors like Fauci, from politicians.

01:10:58.000 Find a medical professional you trust.

01:11:00.000 And I always bring this up because people are like, oh, but doctors are wrong or bad.

01:11:04.000 And it's like, bro, Joe Rogan had a doctor.

01:11:07.000 I had a doctor.

01:11:08.000 Like they did not, you know, take the route you assume that every doctor will take for you.

01:11:13.000 But just make sure you trust the person you're talking to.

01:11:15.000 Multiple doctors.

01:11:16.000 You don't just go to the doctor because that's the doctor.

01:11:18.000 You got to like seek people out, look for intelligence, listen to people and listen to many, many people.

01:11:23.000 If you went to a doctor and you were like, Doc, I got a, I got a bum knee.

01:11:26.000 And he went, well, time to amputate.

01:11:28.000 You'd be like, no, I'm going to leave.

01:11:30.000 But, but here's what I want to get to.

01:11:31.000 You mentioned that the Hegelian dialectic, like maybe they're now teeing it up for people to make claims about vaccines causing injuries and things like that.

01:11:39.000 Not so fast.

01:11:40.000 Nate Silver responded with liberal elites pressured Pfizer to delay vaccine until after the 2020 election.

01:11:46.000 That is so interesting too.

01:11:48.000 This is really weird, okay?

01:11:51.000 I like to pride myself on, you know, why would someone say a thing and then, you know, I have a thought or an idea.

01:11:56.000 Not always right, but I'm like, here's what I think.

01:11:59.000 I have no idea what they're doing.

01:12:00.000 Nate Silver coming out, smearing liberal elites, saying they pressured Pfizer to delay the vaccine until after the election.

01:12:07.000 Like, that's really, really bad for them.

01:12:09.000 Democrats came out and said Trump was trying to rush the vaccine before the election.

01:12:13.000 I don't know where this is going.

01:12:15.000 I heard a theory.

01:12:16.000 I don't remember where I heard this from, so you guys are welcome to correct me in the chat.

01:12:19.000 I'm sorry, I just gotta squeeze this in there, because I heard a theory that they're starting to realize that things are going to start coming out.

01:12:25.000 People are going to start filing lawsuits, maybe against Pfizer.

01:12:29.000 I don't even know how that works, and they're trying to get ahead of it.

01:12:32.000 But I'm addressing that.

01:12:33.000 This is the opposite of that.

01:12:34.000 Nate Silver is coming out and attacking liberal elites for delaying the vaccine.

01:12:38.000 He's saying it's their fault, not But it's an inversion.

01:12:41.000 The Democrats tried stopping the vaccine.

01:12:43.000 They're bad guys.

01:12:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:12:49.000 I understand.

01:12:49.000 Last night, when we were talking about it, we were like, obviously there's a lot of stories and claims about vaccine injuries.

01:12:54.000 Here's my view on this.

01:12:56.000 We had on the Surgeon General from Florida.

01:12:58.000 And even he, you know, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the idea seems to be, look man, if you give 200 million people four shots, like there's a propensity for injury.

01:13:08.000 These things do happen.

01:13:09.000 And we need to be careful that we're not looking at a scale issue as opposed to a frequency issue.

01:13:15.000 Is it an issue that X causes Y amount of injuries, or is it X causes, like, is it an issue that

01:13:22.000 if a million people, 1% seems like a lot, as opposed to 1% of 100 seems like very, very

01:13:27.000 little?

01:13:28.000 That's why I'm just like, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on this one, and I

01:13:31.000 really want to avoid the partisanship.

01:13:32.000 My whole point here is last night in the member section, we were talking about how they're

01:13:37.000 starting to turn on the vaccine.

01:13:39.000 Like this is the narrative now.

01:13:40.000 All of a sudden they're like, it's a bad thing Trump got it out.

01:13:43.000 And I saw that and we talked about it, like if they start turning on it in the next couple

01:13:47.000 of years, they're going to say it's all Trump's fault.

01:13:50.000 But then Nate Silver comes out.

01:13:51.000 What is it?

01:13:52.000 This is today.

01:13:53.000 Yeah.

01:13:54.000 And he's saying liberal elites tried blocking the vaccine.

01:13:58.000 It's very simple.

01:13:59.000 When the narrative starts changing, all you have to do is share that GIF of Stephen Colbert dancing with the vaccines.

01:14:05.000 That's all you have to do.

01:14:07.000 I remember.

01:14:07.000 But that's why I'm not convinced it's changing.

01:14:10.000 I don't know why the Democrats issued this report.

01:14:12.000 If Nate Silver is going to come out on TV or something and then actually use that against Democrats, that's going to help swing states vote Republican or swing districts.

01:14:22.000 This is also assuming that liberal elites or Democrats, they might not even be American.

01:14:27.000 Well, he's talking about Democrats, because they issued this report where they're going after Trump.

01:14:32.000 But my point is, you're a swing district, right?

01:14:34.000 These are not diehard Trumpers.

01:14:36.000 We go down to Loudoun County, for instance, and there's a lot of people who are, like, leaning conservative, but they don't like Trump, they don't like MAGA and stuff like that.

01:14:43.000 Democrats are trying to bank on that and get those voters.

01:14:46.000 If Nate Silver's coming out now and saying this and using their own report against them, those moderate, right-leaning individuals are going to be—they like the vaccine.

01:14:54.000 They're going to be mad at Democrats for... I mean, this is a weapon for Republicans in swing districts to come out and be like, Democrats delayed this.

01:15:02.000 They made the pandemic worse.

01:15:04.000 That's basically what Nate Silver is saying.

01:15:06.000 I would think like, so even without you retiring, there are a lot of things related to this.

01:15:09.000 I think the ship is sinking.

01:15:11.000 Lydia's point was the point I was going to make, is I think a lot of things are sinking and falling apart and someone's going to be left holding the bag.

01:15:18.000 And at this point, I think people are like, it wasn't me though.

01:15:21.000 I was not on that ship.

01:15:23.000 I didn't agree with that.

01:15:24.000 Look at this right here.

01:15:25.000 Quote, Trump pushed for the vaccine approvals too fast is the worst possible critique of the Trump administration's COVID policy, Silver, founder of FiveThirtyEight, tweeted.

01:15:35.000 He then said, that probably saved a lot of lives.

01:15:38.000 If anything, approval should have been faster.

01:15:40.000 In a subsequent tweet, he wrote, liberal public health elites pushed Pfizer to change its original protocols that govern its authorization of vaccines so that the decision would be put off until after Election Day two years ago.

01:15:52.000 That is a brutal condemnation of the Democratic establishment that they would let you die to beat Donald Trump.

01:16:01.000 Nate Silver is tweeting that out.

01:16:03.000 Does that surprise anyone, though?

01:16:05.000 What surprises me is that the Democrats came out with a report claiming Donald Trump was rushing unproved treatments and the vaccine as if it was a negative, instantly having that weaponized against them to show that Democrats were willing to let people die during a pandemic because they hated Trump that much.

01:16:21.000 This is weird.

01:16:23.000 Oh, we saw what happened with Coleman, New York.

01:16:25.000 No, man, I won't I won't dive too deep in that but what Gretchen Whitmer Gretchen Whitmer something.

01:16:30.000 Yeah.

01:16:31.000 I mean, oh, dr. Dr. Levine.

01:16:33.000 Yeah.

01:16:34.000 Yep, always has been like they don't care about you.

01:16:37.000 And I think it's it's like going after it's an abusive relationship, right?

01:16:41.000 It's the it's the I deserve to be hit, you know, like that's how these people are living.

01:16:46.000 They're broken.

01:16:47.000 They think they deserve whatever it is they're getting and you know, it's gonna get better one day if I just keep coming home and you know, dinner will be better next time.

01:16:54.000 Mandatory basic training for all Americans at age 18.

01:16:56.000 Done.

01:16:57.000 There you go.

01:16:58.000 There you go.

01:16:59.000 What, like exercise?

01:17:01.000 Yeah, well, you gotta fix their diet, too.

01:17:03.000 Yeah.

01:17:03.000 Make sure they eat healthy.

01:17:04.000 You guys know what basic training is, right?

01:17:06.000 Military.

01:17:06.000 Military?

01:17:07.000 Yeah.

01:17:07.000 Like boot camp?

01:17:08.000 Yeah.

01:17:09.000 I was kidding, though, but... I mean... Well, I am afraid.

01:17:12.000 That's all I know.

01:17:13.000 How many vaccines should I have now?

01:17:15.000 Probably eight.

01:17:16.000 I'm actually double vaccinated.

01:17:18.000 I think the current CDC schedule is 14 or something.

01:17:20.000 I think it's... No, I think it's five for COVID now.

01:17:23.000 Five total?

01:17:25.000 I could be wrong, because it's two for the initial, and then they've got three boosters now, I think?

01:17:29.000 I know there were two boosters, and I think they came out a couple weeks ago and asked for a third one.

01:17:33.000 Yeah, I think the new one is because it's for Omicron or no, no, no.

01:17:37.000 It's the new variant of something else.

01:17:38.000 G?

01:17:38.000 Something else.

01:17:40.000 I believe it's actually called Legma.

01:17:42.000 No, it's not.

01:17:48.000 I like how you pointed out that they don't care.

01:17:51.000 You say like the leadership doesn't care about you or me.

01:17:54.000 And I kind of believe that because they don't know who you are.

01:17:56.000 And they're just looking at spreadsheets of numbers.

01:17:59.000 I have 750,000 constituents.

01:18:03.000 26% of 26,000 have cancer.

01:18:04.000 170,000 are obese.

01:18:07.000 And they've got these numbers and they're trying to like move puzzle pieces around.

01:18:11.000 If I do a vaccine that prevents 36% and I do it to this percentage of the population, they have no... And that's not how medicine functions.

01:18:18.000 Realistically, that's why they're looking at 3D printing medicine individually tailored to the individual.

01:18:22.000 I think that's the future of medical practice in a lot of ways.

01:18:25.000 We were talking about the other day how It wasn't until like 1993, clinical trials had to include females.

01:18:32.000 Separate.

01:18:33.000 So it used to be that they would take men, give them a drug, see what happened, and then said, there you go, women by body weight. 0.98

01:18:40.000 And then eventually people were like, hey, you know, like women have different hormones and different body structures, and these drugs aren't working the same way.

01:18:46.000 So we started to discover that painkillers, for instance, weren't working on women. 0.92

01:18:51.000 The painkillers we would give to men would work.

01:18:53.000 They'd give the same ones to women, and women would complain, and the doctors would be like, ah, they're just whiny women, you know? 1.00

01:18:57.000 And in reality, it's like, hey, wait a minute, it's not working.

01:19:01.000 So then, I think it was in 1993, they were like, we need to have separate clinical trials for male and female.

01:19:07.000 And that's kind of amazing, and now that's probably gonna go away because of weird... Yeah, how do they know what's a female, though?

01:19:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:19:13.000 Well, actually, we have a story addressing that.

01:19:16.000 Check this out.

01:19:17.000 This is from NBC News.

01:19:20.000 Gender dysphoria is now covered by disability law, federal court rules.

01:19:25.000 The ruling could become a powerful tool to challenge legislation restricting access to medical care and other accommodations for trans people, advocates say.

01:19:32.000 And this pertains to the Fourth Circuit Court, which is Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia, but will inevitably be cited in cases in other states.

01:19:41.000 Now, obviously this will go to the Supreme Court.

01:19:44.000 It's going to be appealed.

01:19:45.000 The story has to do with prison inmates.

01:19:49.000 I believe this was a transgender... Here we go. 0.98

01:19:51.000 They say, the decision came in the case of a transgender woman who sued the Fairfax County Sheriff in Virginia for housing her in a jail with men.

01:19:58.000 The decision is not limited to transgender people challenging jail policies, but also applies broadly to all areas of society covered by disability rights law, including employment, government benefits and services, and public accommodations.

01:20:10.000 The decision de-stigmatized a health condition, gender dysphoria, and it says that what Congress did in 1990 wasn't okay.

01:20:18.000 Now, I can't see this standing because your mental state is not used in terms of your physical state.

01:20:30.000 So, if you are suffering depression, they're not going to be like, you can't go to this facility, right?

01:20:39.000 If you are having a mental issue of some sort, or I guess, look, with all due respect, they're calling it a disability, it's protected under disability law.

01:20:47.000 Your mental state doesn't determine whether or not you go to one facility or another in many circumstances, so this is interesting.

01:20:53.000 I suppose you could argue if someone's mental state was lunacy, psychosis, you would go to a care facility or a hospital instead of a prison.

01:21:01.000 Many people don't.

01:21:02.000 They just go to prison.

01:21:03.000 Many people are clearly unwell, deranged, depressed, or insane, and they don't send them to hospitals.

01:21:09.000 Why would it be now that someone with a mental issue, they could use that to actually affirm that mental issue and be transferred to a separate facility?

01:21:21.000 You see where I'm going with this?

01:21:23.000 I feel like if this did stand, you would have like jails that were strictly for depressed people because your mental state is not something that is a fixed feature of your attribute.

01:21:31.000 Like it doesn't stay the same from day to day. 0.51

01:21:33.000 And I wonder if they're trying to push us toward the slippery slope of, you know, your external genitalia is not necessarily consistent with who you really are inside.

01:21:41.000 So I feel like it's just opening or setting a really bad precedent.

01:21:45.000 I do hope it's challenged.

01:21:45.000 I hope it's knocked over altogether.

01:21:46.000 Well, like here's a question.

01:21:48.000 If I have, um, um, what, what is it called?

01:21:50.000 General body dysmorphic disorder.

01:21:53.000 Will they affirm that by amputating?

01:21:57.000 Amputating your body?

01:21:58.000 Well, so look, for people who are trans, gender-affirming surgery, as it's called, would be the reconstruction, removal of your reproductive organs, and then the cosmetic alteration of them. 0.94

01:22:14.000 Because you are depressed by it.

01:22:16.000 There's another, I think it's in the DSM-5, I don't know what you call it, disorder, that is body dysmorphic disorder, I think.

01:22:23.000 You want to look that up?

01:22:24.000 I'm looking at the DSM-5.

01:22:26.000 What aspect of it are you looking at?

01:22:27.000 Body dysmorphic disorder.

01:22:28.000 Can you Google that?

01:22:29.000 Yeah, I'll check it out.

01:22:30.000 I think that's what it's called.

01:22:31.000 I could be wrong.

01:22:31.000 That sounds right.

01:22:32.000 But there are people who like my hand.

01:22:34.000 Yeah, that is what it's called.

01:22:35.000 Yeah, like my hand.

01:22:36.000 It's not my hand.

01:22:37.000 I'm like, I need it removed.

01:22:39.000 Yeah.

01:22:40.000 I mean, a doctor is not going to cut your hand off.

01:22:42.000 This is so interesting to me because most people don't know this about JK Rowling, but she under a pseudonym wrote an entire, she wrote like a series about a veteran who had lost, you know, the lower half of his leg in the war.

01:22:55.000 And he came back to England and he was dealing with murderous psychopaths who wanted, who had body dysmorphic disorder and who wanted to like amputate their hands and whatnot.

01:23:04.000 And he was incensed by this, obviously, because he had an involuntary amputation.

01:23:08.000 He lost a leg.

01:23:09.000 In an IED explosion or whatever.

01:23:11.000 So I wonder if that's a little bit off topic, but I wonder if that's contributed to their view of her as a TERF because she's been like, no, if you want to amputate something, that's not necessarily just something we should accept.

01:23:22.000 I have no issue with disability law covering this.

01:23:25.000 I get it.

01:23:25.000 It makes sense.

01:23:26.000 The DSM-5 lists it as a disorder, whatever.

01:23:28.000 That's the opinion of the medical experts.

01:23:30.000 And so if someone is experiencing this, then I don't know if that Does disability law give you guaranteed access to government funded treatments?

01:23:40.000 That's what I feel like this might be aiming at, is it's a funding mechanism.

01:23:45.000 But think about any other... I think body dysmorphic disorder is the best analogy because we are not granting those protections to these people.

01:23:56.000 If we're going to allow individuals to undergo cosmetic surgery and the removal of organs due to a disability, would that not apply to any other disorder?

01:24:08.000 It would.

01:24:09.000 And so I would say that, are the prisons now going to have to amputate the arms of individuals who request it?

01:24:15.000 I would imagine, yes.

01:24:17.000 Are you saying that it's because it would be doing harm?

01:24:22.000 I mean, it's a question of, I would say partially, but it's a question of, does the state have to pay for it?

01:24:29.000 Right?

01:24:30.000 Sure.

01:24:30.000 I mean, I think the initial argument for me is, is it the right thing to do?

01:24:35.000 Like, is what you're doing actually providing a benefit?

01:24:38.000 I guess the main issue is, are there any other circumstances where you would be housed in a different facility based on your mental state?

01:24:46.000 Like if you were supposed to go to a supermax prison and you said, but I'm depressed by that.

01:24:53.000 I want to go to a low security prison or prison camp.

01:24:56.000 Would they go?

01:24:57.000 Well, we have to.

01:24:58.000 Depression is a disability.

01:25:00.000 I'm pretty sure depression is a disability, right?

01:25:03.000 I'm not sure.

01:25:04.000 I'll look that up.

01:25:04.000 I don't know.

01:25:05.000 I'm looking at it now.

01:25:06.000 Let me see.

01:25:07.000 I want to say yes.

01:25:08.000 Persistent depressive disorder, depressive disorders, bereavement.

01:25:12.000 So what if you said, I get anxiety attacks.

01:25:15.000 Bereavement exclusion.

01:25:16.000 Bereavement is excluded from depression.

01:25:17.000 What's bereavement?

01:25:18.000 Bereavement's like, I'm sad about what happened to me kind of thing, I believe.

01:25:20.000 Sure.

01:25:20.000 What if you said, Supermax facilities make me depressed and give me anxiety attacks?

01:25:25.000 I think that's a form of grief.

01:25:27.000 But I could be wrong.

01:25:27.000 You could argue it's bereavement.

01:25:29.000 You're saying this is a step on the road?

01:25:31.000 Well, how is then putting a trans person in their biological sex prison not grief, right? 0.80

01:25:37.000 They're ruling that if you're male but identify as female, you must be placed in a female prison because of your mental state. 0.96

01:25:44.000 Well, your grief would be over as soon as you're let out because then you're no longer in prison, right?

01:25:48.000 You'd be grieving because you're in prison.

01:25:50.000 You're right!

01:25:51.000 So they can't lock you up.

01:25:52.000 That's right.

01:25:53.000 Wow.

01:25:54.000 Actually, I think... No, no, grief is not a disorder.

01:25:56.000 Oh, okay.

01:25:57.000 You're allowed to grieve.

01:25:58.000 Right, right, right.

01:25:58.000 But the point is, if... So, look, what they're saying here is that if you're biologically male, identify as a woman, and go to a male prison, that's a disability discrimination.

01:26:08.000 That's what they're saying.

01:26:09.000 That's what this article is saying.

01:26:10.000 If I have persistent depressive disorder caused by being in prison, it's causing me a disability, that's a violation of my rights as a disabled person, right?

01:26:19.000 I should be moved to a different facility to be accommodated for this?

01:26:23.000 It's really funny how prisoners... Well, we're talking about prisoners' rights.

01:26:28.000 You're here.

01:26:28.000 Maybe you can tell me about this a little bit.

01:26:30.000 You've spent 78 years.

01:26:31.000 You have none.

01:26:33.000 But they want them.

01:26:34.000 But then I'm thinking about like the horror of war and like war prisoners and like... We're in such a luxurious time in history that we're able to kind of demand how we want to be treated in prison.

01:26:46.000 Interesting.

01:26:46.000 Yeah.

01:26:47.000 It's funny, right?

01:26:48.000 You can make all the demands you want.

01:26:49.000 I mean, they're not going to help you.

01:26:51.000 Their job is not to help you.

01:26:52.000 So I didn't really have an opinion on prison ahead of time, but being there, I definitely have an opinion now.

01:26:58.000 My thought was always, you know, well, you did something wrong, so enjoy prison.

01:27:02.000 But I don't think we should make it something you enjoy, though, because the idea should be you don't want to come back here.

01:27:07.000 So making people comfortable and stuff, I mean, it should be uncomfortable, but the psychological side of what they do to you is Horrible.

01:27:14.000 I think it should be rehabilitative.

01:27:17.000 Rehabilitative?

01:27:18.000 Is that the word?

01:27:19.000 Rehabilitative.

01:27:19.000 Rehabilitative?

01:27:20.000 The goal should be to rehabilitate people.

01:27:22.000 There you go.

01:27:23.000 So I read these stories about they put people on an island in Scandinavian countries or whatever.

01:27:28.000 Like if you're a supermax, they put you on an island.

01:27:29.000 And it actually had the most successful rate of reducing recidivism and reforming people.

01:27:35.000 Because you made them responsible for their safety, security, and survival.

01:27:39.000 More so than if they were in society.

01:27:41.000 Well, look at Australia.

01:27:42.000 I mean, they're doing great.

01:27:45.000 Very successful penal colony.

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 And a continent.

01:27:48.000 Yeah.

01:27:48.000 Did you ever get the vibe of isolation while you were, was it isolative?

01:27:52.000 Yeah.

01:27:53.000 So when you come in, if you're unvaccinated, they have to put you in either the SHU, which is a special housing unit.

01:27:59.000 And I think at one point it was like 21 days and then they dropped it down to five days when I got there.

01:28:05.000 The issue is the unit they put me in every time someone new came in and reset the count.

01:28:11.000 So when I first got there it was me and some older guy and we chatted for a little bit.

01:28:15.000 I'm just trying to keep to myself because all I know of prison is Shawshank Redemption and Green Mile.

01:28:21.000 We kept having more and more guys come in so the unit got more and more crowded.

01:28:25.000 We're sharing less and less showers.

01:28:27.000 Only half the toilets work. 1.00

01:28:28.000 It gets uncomfortable.

01:28:29.000 We ended up doing I think 17 days before they actually put us in the other units that was basically general housing.

01:28:36.000 I can't complain because back when it used to be two weeks, it was two weeks for 21 days, they had actually an entire unit.

01:28:44.000 And I think there's probably about 100 beds in there, bunk beds, so they can house about 200 people per block.

01:28:49.000 They got to, I think it was 95 people at one point, and they had them housed in there for over 80 days.

01:28:56.000 And you cannot leave that unit.

01:28:58.000 You are stuck there.

01:28:58.000 They bring you sandwiches and you can't leave.

01:29:00.000 What were most people in for?

01:29:02.000 It was kind of all over the place.

01:29:03.000 So in a camp the only reason you can't be in a camp is if you're a It can't be like a violent crime and you can't be a chomo So, um, what's that? 1.00

01:29:12.000 A chomo is a child molester. 1.00

01:29:14.000 Okay, you can't be that so Why which is a violent crime which which is a violent crime?

01:29:19.000 Yeah, that and also it's it's also for their safety and So, um, most of the chomos are put into low facilities. 0.99

01:29:28.000 I know the one I was at, I think the population was something like 80-90% all child molesters.

01:29:32.000 True.

01:29:33.000 Which is, no, it's staggering, but I mean, they have their own gang and stuff there.

01:29:36.000 You know, like, you don't- It's awful, man.

01:29:38.000 They protect each other and...

01:29:40.000 Now, for everybody else, what is that, financial crimes or what?

01:29:42.000 Financial crimes.

01:29:43.000 You know, a lot of people, shady business dealings and things like that.

01:29:47.000 A couple people, I mean, I learned about ghost money and ghost drugs.

01:29:50.000 So, this is, let's say you have a large company, right?

01:29:54.000 And everything I say came from criminals, so grain of salt.

01:29:58.000 Everyone's innocent in prison.

01:29:59.000 So, let's say you have a company and you have someone that, you know, it's like they do your business dealings, you know, because you've grown so much.

01:30:06.000 You send someone they have an illegal conversation about possibly doing something, right?

01:30:10.000 Or let's say you're having a conversation about buying drugs, but there are no drugs, you know, it's not actually happened yet.

01:30:18.000 If two people come together and say he had the intention of doing this, that's a charge.

01:30:23.000 Really?

01:30:23.000 Mm-hmm.

01:30:24.000 That is a charge.

01:30:25.000 They call it um, oh Conspiracy to commit either fraud or conspiracy to do something Wow So if two two inmates you're saying two inmates tell a guard that a third inmate is doing said something This is in the free world.

01:30:37.000 This is this is out of prison So the people that were there right a lot of them are like a conspiracy to commit mail fraud conspiracy to to do You know regular fraud and stuff I mean I was I wasn't there long enough to get full details of everything was a pretty short stint but If two people say this guy had an intention to buy drugs or have a shady dealing, and they're C.I.s for the federal government, they can arrest you on conspiracy.

01:30:58.000 Yep.

01:30:59.000 So you'll get, you could be some dumb dude who's sitting, playing video games and drinking a beer, and then some guy goes, hey man, you know what we should do? 0.98

01:31:06.000 We should do this, that, or otherwise, right? 0.99

01:31:08.000 You want to do it?

01:31:08.000 And then you could be like, oh yeah, I guess, I don't know, whatever.

01:31:10.000 And like, boom, gotcha!

01:31:11.000 Yep.

01:31:11.000 And then all of a sudden someone comes knocking on your door and you're like, what?

01:31:14.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:31:14.000 I was just watching Friends reruns.

01:31:16.000 Okay.

01:31:17.000 So when someone asks you to commit a crime, you say no every time.

01:31:20.000 Yeah, but what if you don't know?

01:31:22.000 If you don't know it's illegal?

01:31:23.000 Yeah, take a look at marijuana laws across the country.

01:31:25.000 They vary all over.

01:31:26.000 A lot of people don't realize that, like, for instance, in West Virginia it's illegal, in Maryland it's legal.

01:31:30.000 What if someone from, you know, lives in Maryland where it's legal, and a CI is like, hey, you wanna, you know, hang out? 0.61

01:31:37.000 We're going to the range.

01:31:38.000 And they go to the range, so they drive it to West Virginia, and then they're leaving, and so they're like, we're gonna go chill at my buddy's house.

01:31:44.000 And they go to a chiller's house, and then someone says, hey, you wanna bring some of this stuff over to us? 1.00

01:31:48.000 That'd be really cool.

01:31:48.000 And they go, oh yeah, sure, I guess.

01:31:50.000 Boom, gotcha.

01:31:52.000 Talking about crossing state lines with something illegal or whatever and you're like the only you might not even know where the state line is You said it's called ghost ghost crime ghost drugs.

01:32:01.000 So ghost drugs is a really prominent one on there So if the drugs were there or not, you still committed the crime so they're gonna arrest you with no drugs Just the well, they said they were going to they showed up to meet to go buy it And the other one was ghost.

01:32:13.000 What was the other one?

01:32:14.000 It's a conspiracy to commit fraud.

01:32:16.000 Fraud.

01:32:17.000 And again, I'm not an attorney.

01:32:18.000 I'm not a lawyer.

01:32:19.000 I've not studied law.

01:32:20.000 But these are the stories you hear inside.

01:32:22.000 Everyone in prison is innocent if you ask them.

01:32:24.000 I didn't do it.

01:32:25.000 But the stories you hear, they're tragic.

01:32:27.000 I mean, they're tragic, you know, and I mean I like what's an example? Well

01:32:31.000 It's hard you're not supposed to when you get out you're not really supposed to tell people stories and I made that 0.71

01:32:39.000 Make up a story that's comparable, but not related to any actual person.

01:32:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:43.000 Like, give us a gist of what it would be like.

01:32:47.000 I'm sorry, what's your questioning?

01:32:48.000 I started thinking about something.

01:32:49.000 I don't want you to spill the beans on anyone's actual life story, so could you make up something that's akin so we understand what it would be like?

01:32:58.000 What's a fictitious example of what a tragic story would be in these circumstances?

01:33:03.000 So, like, uh, when I was in, I tell you what broke me.

01:33:06.000 Everyone's got a cell phone where I'm at.

01:33:07.000 There's a lot of contraband in there.

01:33:08.000 I mean, people were bringing in, like, wing house wings at night.

01:33:10.000 They were doing runs.

01:33:11.000 It was absolutely... How?

01:33:13.000 Like, guards were bringing in?

01:33:14.000 I don't know how that happened.

01:33:15.000 I didn't see anything.

01:33:16.000 Wings are awesome.

01:33:17.000 Yeah, I'm actually blind in both eyes and can barely hear.

01:33:18.000 Yeah.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, um, but, uh, there was one guy, um, I was staying behind, uh, reading a book and I heard a guy, uh, singing happy birthday to like his three-year-old on the cell phone.

01:33:29.000 He's crying kind of in between.

01:33:30.000 And like, that was absolutely tragic to me.

01:33:33.000 And this guy's in for, for marijuana.

01:33:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:36.000 I've wanted to put webcams in these prisons for about 15 years.

01:33:40.000 I just, even if the guards, if the guards are watching you have, or anyone have a conversation with their family, I mean, at least they're having a conversation.

01:33:47.000 That's why I asked you about isolation earlier, like psychological isolation.

01:33:51.000 Well, I know the place I was at used to be a women's camp, and they actually had the ability to FaceTime their families.

01:33:56.000 Like, women have different treatment than the men do in prisons.

01:33:59.000 Well, that sounds like a Title IX violation.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, well, the only thing I hate about that last story is that it came out, you know, a couple months late, because I would have much rather preferred going to a women's prison. 1.00

01:34:08.000 Yeah, we only talked a little bit.

01:34:09.000 I think we're going to go Super Chats pretty soon.

01:34:11.000 Yeah, we're going to Super Chats right now, actually.

01:34:12.000 We only touched on surface on level at that last story, but I think your story was actually really interesting.

01:34:16.000 All right, we're going to go to Super Chats.

01:34:17.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com.

01:34:21.000 Become a member because I have a members-only uncensored show coming up for you at 11 p.m.

01:34:24.000 Faster.

01:34:25.000 Yeah, there we go.

01:34:25.000 Put that on 2.5 speed.

01:34:27.000 Put that on one point.

01:34:29.000 Put that on .5 if you want to really understand what I said.

01:34:30.000 We're going to have that members-only show by TimCast.com at about 11 p.m.

01:34:37.000 Let's read your Super Chats.

01:34:39.000 I don't like that.

01:34:40.000 That's too slow.

01:34:40.000 Tiberius3969 says, Hey Tim, what makes parallel economy censure resistant?

01:34:48.000 Is it just the fact that it's a separate entity or is it something else?

01:34:51.000 The company itself, still, there's a chain with links.

01:34:57.000 And each link is a weak point.

01:34:59.000 You've got your domain hosting, you've got your servers, you've got your financial transactions, you've got your social media.

01:35:05.000 Any one of those can snap and break the chain and harm your business.

01:35:08.000 We have to keep forging new links and replacing as many as we can.

01:35:12.000 Parallel Economy is a company that does not have the insane censorship policies of some of these other big financial transaction firms.

01:35:18.000 So you're not going to get banned because you hosted an interview with someone who has naughty opinions.

01:35:23.000 Whereas some of these other big firms, they will nuke you in two seconds.

01:35:27.000 So it's one step at a time.

01:35:29.000 There still is the risk that card processors in the back end, like big banks, they can still shut you down.

01:35:35.000 What you do there?

01:35:37.000 You need the MAGA Bank, I guess?

01:35:40.000 So, you know, maybe you need a billionaire to open a MAGA Bank?

01:35:43.000 I guess?

01:35:46.000 Alright.

01:35:47.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:35:51.000 Marked Ashamed says the student loans have become the biggest short position against the U.S.

01:35:56.000 economy, even bigger than the big short of the housing market in 2008.

01:36:00.000 Most of the debt that is to be forgiven is in hedge funds, so that is 200% profit.

01:36:05.000 Yeah, somebody mentioned if somebody owes like a hundred grand, And they get 10k in their loans paid down.

01:36:12.000 All that money is going to these lenders.

01:36:15.000 And your interest is still going to crank your loan payments back up.

01:36:19.000 So it's like not really doing much other than funneling more money to big banks.

01:36:25.000 It's crazy.

01:36:28.000 Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:36:32.000 Emile Koloff says, I just poured a huge drink and Tim said Civil War. 0.90

01:36:36.000 Well, frick me. 0.85

01:36:38.000 There you go, man. 0.98

01:36:39.000 Stay safe.

01:36:43.000 Baelian says, so are you going to criticize MTG for her hypocrisy in demanding the censorship of Kiwi Farms due to the fact she's being tricked into believing one of their mods is responsible for her swatting?

01:36:54.000 If you want to know more, check out Rikada's video.

01:36:56.000 I saw that.

01:36:58.000 If Marjorie Taylor Greene is wrong about this, because I don't know the full details, for one, I do not believe Kiwi Farms should be censored, and I do think that whoever's doing the swatting is absolutely lying because we've been experiencing something similar, and I'll reach out to Marjorie and make sure she's not making a mistake.

01:37:16.000 She should not be calling for censorship, and if that's the case, that would be hypocritical and bad.

01:37:20.000 Very bad.

01:37:21.000 So, you know, I'll reach out.

01:37:22.000 Maybe we'll have her back on the show at some point when we can.

01:37:26.000 Joshua Marks says, GPrime85, on the one show I've caught live all year, that's karma for buying the completely awesome Breaking Bread Club Print, I bet.

01:37:35.000 Ian, thoughts?

01:37:36.000 What's Breaking Bread Club Print?

01:37:38.000 There was a couple of strips I did called, it was based on The Breakfast Club, it was like a little joke.

01:37:45.000 So there's this Christian girl who was caught having a Bible in her book bag or something from school.

01:37:52.000 And the dad says, you go out and get pregnant and have an abortion right now. 1.00

01:37:55.000 And the sequel to that was, there's this bad boy in the detention facility, you know, it's like Breakfast Club.

01:38:02.000 She got detention, the bad boy got detention.

01:38:04.000 He's like, so what are you in here for, you know?

01:38:07.000 And he has a MAGA hat basically.

01:38:09.000 So the joke was that it's now the cool thing to be a Republican slash conservative.

01:38:14.000 So this fine individual, I guess, bought prints from me.

01:38:18.000 And I don't know what Ian would have.

01:38:22.000 Sounds like karma to me.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

01:38:24.000 Get what you deserve.

01:38:26.000 All right.

01:38:28.000 James Morgan says, Will you be signing bands to Timcast Records?

01:38:32.000 Is there an AR rep to contact for possible submissions?

01:38:35.000 No!

01:38:36.000 Yes, and no.

01:38:38.000 We are gonna be signing bands.

01:38:39.000 We have to figure out how to do it.

01:38:41.000 Carter Banks is the go-to guy for all of that stuff.

01:38:43.000 And I don't know where we are with that.

01:38:45.000 Right now, we just have to release, like, our own music.

01:38:48.000 And then, I'll put it this way, you know, we have the song coming out at midnight, Eastern time, so it's like, what is that, 9 p.m.

01:38:57.000 L.A.

01:38:57.000 time?

01:38:58.000 A large portion of our viewers are actually on the West Coast, too.

01:39:00.000 Not the biggest, but, you know, so that'll be easier for you guys.

01:39:03.000 If it works, If the songs we put out succeed and generate revenue, and it's also about building culture, that means if the song succeeds in getting play to a certain degree, I'm not super worried about returns profit-wise if we get returns marketing-wise.

01:39:21.000 But if the songs can generate revenue to the point where we can expand the operation, we will.

01:39:26.000 Otherwise, the reality is us putting out songs becomes like a vanity project of a thing we like to do that helps generate buzz for the projects we're working on.

01:39:34.000 To put it simply, marketing value will exist in all of the music stuff we do.

01:39:39.000 If it generates revenue, then we start signing more and more bands and ramping up production.

01:39:44.000 Otherwise, it'll be like the people who are here in-house and have songs they want to publish will make and publish.

01:39:49.000 But I really do want to at least sign a few people for a few deals to a certain degree.

01:39:54.000 Maybe a couple EPs to start.

01:39:55.000 We'll figure it out.

01:39:56.000 I don't know how we can take submissions.

01:39:57.000 We've got to figure that out too.

01:39:58.000 There's like legal hoops you've got to jump through if you want to take solicitations or something like that.

01:40:05.000 All right.

01:40:05.000 Keegan Mooney says, I am outraged from Tim's slander from last night that Jordan B. Peterson didn't say to watch Attack on Titan.

01:40:12.000 I implore you to watch the 22-second video Jordan Peterson unwatching anime.

01:40:16.000 I look forward to a retraction.

01:40:18.000 Give your heart, Tim.

01:40:19.000 Give your heart.

01:40:20.000 Well, did he say to watch?

01:40:21.000 Watch Attack on Titan!

01:40:23.000 I don't know.

01:40:24.000 It sounded like a deepfake.

01:40:25.000 Well, the reason why I thought it could be true is because- You must watch Attack on Titan.

01:40:28.000 You've seen it, right?

01:40:29.000 Some of it, yeah.

01:40:30.000 You've not seen- Not all of it.

01:40:31.000 What?

01:40:32.000 The Jordan Peterson deepfake or the show?

01:40:34.000 You're talking about the show.

01:40:34.000 The show Attack on Titan.

01:40:35.000 There's a lot of animes I've started I haven't finished.

01:40:37.000 Attack on Titan is like watching a show based on a Jordan Peterson lecture.

01:40:41.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 It's like a race of people who are demonized for historical oppression and racism.

01:40:47.000 And they're called the Eldians and there's one that's like, we're the good ones. 0.98

01:40:51.000 We're teaming up with the other countries because Eldians are bad. 1.00

01:40:54.000 And there's other people who are basically being punished and imprisoned because thousands of years ago their people were conquerors.

01:40:59.000 It's crazy.

01:41:00.000 I watched that and I was like, this sounds like a Jordan Peterson.

01:41:02.000 Were they able to transform at that time?

01:41:03.000 Or was that a punishment?

01:41:05.000 I can't remember.

01:41:06.000 When they became Titans.

01:41:08.000 Like, everybody on the island spoiled us.

01:41:10.000 You're totally just spoiling the whole show.

01:41:12.000 Yeah, I've only seen the first episode.

01:41:13.000 I don't remember.

01:41:15.000 Well, I think it's fair to spoil the first season.

01:41:17.000 It's a fairly old show, but basically, like, the show is people live in this big triple-walled city, and there are giant humanoid monsters that eat people outside.

01:41:25.000 They're called Titans.

01:41:26.000 And then you discover, like, basically in the first few episodes, I think, that people can transform into Titans.

01:41:31.000 And, you know, I don't know.

01:41:32.000 What else did you want to add?

01:41:33.000 Well, I mean, if there's spoiler content, I don't know.

01:41:35.000 I just, I've read a lot about the series.

01:41:38.000 I don't know what is and is not a spoiler.

01:41:39.000 I mean, talking about The Good and Bad Aldeans is a huge spoiler.

01:41:43.000 Okay.

01:41:43.000 Yeah.

01:41:44.000 I'll ask.

01:41:44.000 Is the planet called Titan that they're on?

01:41:47.000 Nope.

01:41:47.000 I think it's called Earth.

01:41:48.000 Interesting.

01:41:49.000 They're in this walled city.

01:41:51.000 I guess I shouldn't say too much.

01:41:53.000 but yeah it's it's uh super i remember it was like super nihilistic and dark and gross oh the art is incredible yeah well jordan peterson said watch it i'm definitely gonna watch it i'm trying to be a better man i think it was a jordan peterson deep fake that says to watch it but i could be wrong all right i gotta ask jordan to his face chuck taylor says please read this super chat Okay, moving on.

01:42:14.000 KM says, Bree Larson's version of Metric's Black Sheep is way better.

01:42:18.000 The song from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.

01:42:20.000 Sad to say, bro.

01:42:20.000 This is actually... I agree.

01:42:23.000 But there's two versions.

01:42:26.000 So there's one where it was re-uploaded recently, and there's a...

01:42:32.000 Vocal error.

01:42:32.000 I'll just call it that.

01:42:33.000 Like Bri hits a sour note and they didn't fix it.

01:42:37.000 In the first release of it from the movie, it's perfect.

01:42:40.000 Because basically what they do is when she hits a sour note, they just fade it out and it works.

01:42:43.000 And then in the later release, I guess they upload a different version.

01:42:48.000 But what I will say is...

01:42:50.000 That song, I could be wrong about this, Metric made an album and they said, hey, this song's not going to make the album.

01:42:58.000 We don't think it's going to fit.

01:42:59.000 It's not the same style.

01:43:00.000 It doesn't really fit in with the rest of the songs.

01:43:02.000 And so when they were making Scott Pilgrim, they were like, hey, this band is based on you guys. 0.99

01:43:07.000 And then they were like, oh, that's great, even though the woman in the movie is like a dick. 1.00

01:43:11.000 and so they're like hey we have this song it didn't fit on an album you can use this one i remember the first time i saw scott pilgrim and i heard black sheep i was like wow this song is really good for like a movie song i was like i wonder why i like it so much and i looked it up i was like oh it's metric it's like one of my favorite bands i would say actually right now metric is my favorite band they're amazing all comes crashing is like all comes crashing is like the best song they've ever made and i love like all their albums so I remember I got invited to a screening of that one, and I was a huge fan of the comic at the time.

01:43:37.000 Did you like the movie?

01:43:39.000 Well, okay, so the version I saw, he ended up with knives at the end, and I thought that was a huge... it was a completely different ending.

01:43:47.000 Really?

01:43:47.000 I was one of the people who said the whole point of this story is that he does not end up with knives.

01:43:52.000 But he does in the comic, doesn't he?

01:43:53.000 He does in the comic and he does in the movie, but in the version of the movie that I saw, he was with Knives Channel.

01:43:59.000 Whatever.

01:44:00.000 This is nerd talk.

01:44:01.000 I'm sure nobody knows.

01:44:01.000 No, I actually love that movie.

01:44:03.000 It's one of my favorites.

01:44:03.000 I've seen it several times.

01:44:04.000 But I also think they botched the ending with, he ends up with Ramona at the end.

01:44:08.000 I still think he should have ended up single.

01:44:10.000 This is my opinion.

01:44:11.000 And, uh, I would also criticize.

01:44:14.000 Well, yeah, I think Scott needed to grow by the end of the story and he needed to end up alone and ask, why am I alone?

01:44:20.000 And then I always thought that Ramona should have been like an evil witch. 1.00

01:44:23.000 who needed to be cleansed of her evil exes and she needed, she used him to do it and 0.92

01:44:28.000 then she would vanish again. 0.54

01:44:29.000 I thought that would have been a way better ending.

01:44:32.000 No disrespect to Brian Lee O'Malley, I was a huge fan.

01:44:35.000 But yeah.

01:44:36.000 My, my, my, my nerd out is I'll say that the What If, did you watch Marvel's What If?

01:44:41.000 No.

01:44:42.000 The Doctor Strange, huge missed opportunity.

01:44:44.000 You saw the Doctor Strange one?

01:44:45.000 Yes.

01:44:46.000 So it plays into Multiverse of Madness.

01:44:49.000 In the What If, basically he's trying to find a reality where Christine lives and her death

01:44:54.000 is a catalyst for him to become Doctor Strange.

01:44:57.000 What should have happened was.

01:44:58.000 He finally finds one universe where Christine gets to live and it's where he sacrifices his hands and his legacy to become Doctor Strange, but keeping her alive.

01:45:07.000 And that would be the prequel to the actual first Doctor Strange movie.

01:45:10.000 That would have been way more epic.

01:45:12.000 I could see that.

01:45:13.000 Yeah, but I guess they wanted to use the character in Multiverse of Madness.

01:45:16.000 I don't think they know what they want.

01:45:17.000 Disney's falling apart.

01:45:19.000 It is.

01:45:19.000 The Marvel movies are falling apart.

01:45:21.000 She-Hulk is getting blasted. 0.83

01:45:26.000 Look, Ms.

01:45:26.000 Marvel was the worst.

01:45:28.000 She-Hulk is actually like... You know, I watch it.

01:45:31.000 And it's like, C-.

01:45:33.000 It's like, I'll watch it.

01:45:35.000 I'm really excited to see Daredevil in it.

01:45:37.000 I mean, I watched everything up to, I started watching the TV series, you know, Hawkeye, the Captain America one.

01:45:45.000 I liked, what was the one with Scarlet Witch?

01:45:48.000 It was really, really good, actually.

01:45:50.000 WandaVision.

01:45:51.000 I thought that was, I really liked it.

01:45:53.000 You had to skip the first three episodes or something.

01:45:55.000 I thought it was clever.

01:45:56.000 I enjoyed the cleverness of it.

01:45:58.000 Going through different genres, I mean, interesting filming.

01:46:00.000 I thought it was fun.

01:46:01.000 I haven't seen it before.

01:46:03.000 And then, like, I gotta be honest, like, that made no— like, Multiverse of Madness ends up making no sense.

01:46:08.000 They're turning every movie into an Avengers movie, and it's really boring.

01:46:11.000 Like, the first Doctor Strange was good.

01:46:13.000 It's about a guy, and he goes on this journey.

01:46:14.000 Now it's like every movie is an Avengers movie, and I'm just like... Anyway, let's read some more!

01:46:19.000 Regil says, G Prime, excited to see your amazing art in Death Mask, the second book in the Night Vale series by Hugo, nominated excellence of Elocution.

01:46:27.000 RazörFist, available for pre-order now.

01:46:30.000 Welcome to the Iron Age.

01:46:31.000 Hell yeah.

01:46:31.000 That was a lot of fun, actually.

01:46:33.000 I don't know if this is, like, widely known, but yeah, RazörFist, the YouTuber, the smack talker, was kind enough to ask me to illustrate his second book in the series.

01:46:43.000 It's called...

01:46:45.000 Well, this one's Death Mask.

01:46:47.000 Right on.

01:46:48.000 Max S. says, I would like to point out that in the New York 19th district race from earlier this week, the Democrats and media are bragging about beating the Republican by 2%.

01:46:57.000 In a district, Democrats won by 12% in 2020.

01:47:01.000 Red wave in November.

01:47:02.000 That's a 10 point swing.

01:47:04.000 We'll see, man.

01:47:04.000 We'll see.

01:47:08.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:47:14.000 All right.

01:47:15.000 Cody Shifflett says, was wondering if you heard about Arizona passing a bill making it illegal to record cops within eight feet.

01:47:22.000 If it's true, I was hoping to get y'all's thoughts on it.

01:47:24.000 Love you guys.

01:47:25.000 Well, that's tough.

01:47:26.000 I mean, why are you walking within eight feet of a cop?

01:47:28.000 But the question is, if they're in the act of, you know, subduing somebody or arresting somebody.

01:47:34.000 Yeah, I don't like it.

01:47:35.000 I mean, I think you have a right to have video evidence to support yourself in court.

01:47:39.000 I do.

01:47:39.000 I mean, if you get pulled over, I think you should be able to record.

01:47:42.000 Absolutely.

01:47:43.000 And I think it's accountability is the measure we should be asking for from police.

01:47:47.000 And, you know, I'm, again, I have a lot of Leo friends and I'm, I think they'd be fine with that too.

01:47:52.000 And the ones that probably aren't fine with it, those are the ones that have questions why they aren't.

01:47:56.000 Do they have body cams over there?

01:47:57.000 I don't know.

01:47:59.000 Good question.

01:48:00.000 Because if I get pulled over and I start filming, and he comes within eight feet of me, am I breaking the rule now?

01:48:06.000 What about your Teslas?

01:48:07.000 They have cameras all over.

01:48:08.000 That's a great question.

01:48:09.000 The first step is to get a Tesla, I suppose.

01:48:11.000 It's crazy.

01:48:12.000 They have a left and a right side cam, a front cam, a back cam, a dash cam, and a cabin cam.

01:48:17.000 I remember I parked once next to a Tesla, and I was close to it, but I didn't hit it or anything, and I opened my door, and then I see on the dash it says recording.

01:48:26.000 I'm like, what the hell?

01:48:27.000 Yeah, it's called Sentry Mode.

01:48:28.000 Yeah.

01:48:29.000 And it films everything you do. 0.88

01:48:31.000 So I took a crap on it and then I walked away. 0.88

01:48:33.000 I heard a story of somebody keyed a Tesla and it recorded him doing it. 0.98

01:48:38.000 Oh my.

01:48:38.000 Yeah, like, dude, Teslas are scary, man.

01:48:40.000 You stay away.

01:48:42.000 I'm gonna get a Tesla. Dude, the remote control feature is crazy. I never used it because I've

01:48:46.000 had Tesla for a while, but you can control the car remotely.

01:48:49.000 You can be far away and then press a button and the car will move with nobody in it. It's

01:48:54.000 really slow for obvious reasons, but it's kind of weird. One of his plans, Elon's plans, I believe is

01:48:59.000 to, you know, displace Uber by allowing you to set your Tesla to go Uber for you while you're not

01:49:04.000 using it and it'll drive around, pick people up and take them. Uber, Uber. 0.83

01:49:07.000 Uber is really, really bad, in my opinion, because these people who are doing this don't realize the wear and tear on their vehicle is eating away at the money they're making.

01:49:16.000 You're basically just selling the value of your car for a short-term gain, and then your car breaks down and runs out of gas.

01:49:20.000 It's kind of crazy.

01:49:21.000 I saw somebody wouldn't do air conditioning.

01:49:23.000 This was like four or five days ago.

01:49:25.000 My Uber driver won't put on the AC for gas, to save gas.

01:49:28.000 I always have the question, what happens when we have fully autonomous vehicles that just drive themselves?

01:49:32.000 Do we even have car insurance companies anymore?

01:49:34.000 Nope.

01:49:34.000 Do we see the car manufacturer?

01:49:36.000 Because it's their technology.

01:49:38.000 Interesting point.

01:49:39.000 I got dropped.

01:49:40.000 My Tesla got dropped from our insurance plan.

01:49:42.000 I don't know why.

01:49:43.000 Weird.

01:49:44.000 Tesla now offers insurance.

01:49:46.000 So here's what I think.

01:49:48.000 If a car is on auto drive and it crashes, whose fault is it?

01:49:53.000 Tesla.

01:49:54.000 Is it?

01:49:55.000 Is it?

01:49:55.000 Who gets sued?

01:49:56.000 It's gotta be the car's fault.

01:49:57.000 So what happens if, what happens if you get into a, you're driving and you crash and the other person says they were on auto drive.

01:50:04.000 I could tell their hands were down the wheel.

01:50:05.000 And then the guy, the person driving was like, I was driving.

01:50:07.000 I wasn't on, I wasn't, I wasn't on autopilot.

01:50:10.000 They're like, nope, nope.

01:50:11.000 Because if it was auto drive, I get to sue Tesla.

01:50:14.000 And then the insurance companies are like, we can't deal with whatever that's about.

01:50:17.000 Two different drivers at the same time, you and the company.

01:50:21.000 But here's the other thing too, um, I have a Honda and it's got, it's basically got auto drive as well.

01:50:27.000 They have lane control or whatever.

01:50:29.000 And so you put on cruise control and lane control and then it just drives on the highway for you.

01:50:33.000 Yep.

01:50:33.000 That's basically what Tesla does.

01:50:36.000 All right.

01:50:36.000 Aurora Isabella says, hi, Tim.

01:50:38.000 I listened to your will of the people song and I love it.

01:50:40.000 Will you ever have a live performance one day?

01:50:43.000 We actually jammed here with Carter, Pete Parata, Adrian, Norman, Ian, and actually it was really good.

01:50:49.000 I have harmonies for that song too.

01:50:51.000 They're not on the recording of it, but I'd like to play those live.

01:50:54.000 Yeah, we're probably going to re-upload the song to the new Timcast Records page, and then we have another version.

01:50:59.000 So our song, Only Ever Wanted, is going up at midnight tonight.

01:51:03.000 12.01am tomorrow, technically.

01:51:05.000 And then, I don't know exactly when, but we have another version.

01:51:08.000 So this song has rock in it, but it's not a rock song.

01:51:10.000 I guess the best example, the closest I could probably get it to, is Cosmic Love by Florence, maybe.

01:51:17.000 But we have another version that's piano and violin, and then we're probably going to do a performance in here, in the studio, and then put that up.

01:51:23.000 We should do a lounge version of Will of the People, where it's like, this is the will of the people.

01:51:28.000 With some brushes.

01:51:29.000 We'll get Pete to play with some brushes.

01:51:33.000 That'd be fun.

01:51:35.000 Let's see what we got here in the old Super Chats.

01:51:37.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:51:41.000 William Hines says, didn't the FBI know the Russian interference was false the time they asked Facebook to censor?

01:51:47.000 Hmm.

01:51:49.000 Interesting question.

01:51:51.000 Unless they're just trying to get negative stuff censored.

01:51:54.000 Well, here's a good example.

01:51:55.000 The FBI, a whistleblower came out and said that they were told by the top brass not to investigate the laptop because they didn't want to interfere in the election.

01:52:01.000 Then, right before a midterm, they raided Trump's house.

01:52:05.000 So, uh, how about that, huh?

01:52:08.000 Is this election interference?

01:52:10.000 Right.

01:52:10.000 That's why I think even now he's betting on just pissing everybody off.

01:52:13.000 50k would be a disaster for Dems. 13% of adults have student loans. The remaining 87% aren't

01:52:19.000 likely to vote to pay for the 13%'s poor choices. Right. 0.96

01:52:23.000 That's why I think even now, he's betting on just pissing everybody off. Maybe they want to lose, man.

01:52:29.000 Sometimes it feels like they're so bad at what they do, they really do want

01:52:33.000 Republicans to win.

01:52:35.000 Like, they're trying to, like, my favorite conspiracy theory in this regard is that China created wokeness and, like, pumped it up through the media to destabilize the country, and now they're trying to get rid of wokeness by creating fake opposition.

01:52:47.000 Yeah, fun.

01:52:50.000 Dialectic. 0.97

01:52:52.000 Max Stahl says the Sandman is woke garbage, Dream Homie is naked in a bubble for all of the first episode, and one of the only straight couples in the show chains a black kid up in the basement. 0.77

01:53:03.000 I mean, the show's got its cringe, but the death episode is one of the greatest pieces of visual media I've ever seen.

01:53:10.000 It's on my to-watch list, that is.

01:53:11.000 I haven't started yet.

01:53:12.000 Have you seen it?

01:53:13.000 Which one is this?

01:53:14.000 Death.

01:53:14.000 The death episode.

01:53:15.000 Of what show?

01:53:16.000 Sandman.

01:53:17.000 Negative.

01:53:17.000 I haven't seen any of those.

01:53:18.000 It's not about any of this stuff.

01:53:20.000 Like, I don't want to ruin it.

01:53:21.000 Oh yeah, you were talking about that a couple nights ago, too.

01:53:22.000 Amazing.

01:53:23.000 It's so good.

01:53:24.000 It's just absolutely brilliant.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, Neil Gaiman is a good author.

01:53:27.000 He wrote with Terry Pratchett, which I absolutely loved his work.

01:53:30.000 He did Good Omens, which was an incredible TV show, even though it was one of my favorite books as well.

01:53:35.000 I was like, this is amazing.

01:53:37.000 But he's a little woke.

01:53:38.000 So yeah, I mean, I guess it's probably par for the course.

01:53:41.000 Is death one of the characters in the show?

01:53:43.000 Yeah.

01:53:44.000 And then there's an episode basically about death.

01:53:46.000 And it's really good.

01:53:47.000 Yeah, it's so good.

01:53:51.000 All right.

01:53:51.000 I want to talk smack to Matt.

01:53:53.000 I shouldn't say this.

01:53:55.000 I want to talk smack to Neil Gaiman.

01:53:57.000 I was, but this, I was just a little face to face.

01:54:00.000 No, no.

01:54:00.000 I was tweeting, you know, I was just this little account at the time.

01:54:04.000 And I guess he found his name and he's like, Hey, don't be, I don't know.

01:54:08.000 He said something.

01:54:09.000 I'm like, Whoa, who invited you to this conversation?

01:54:11.000 And he was like really like he jumped on me like wow I think I had said something like I like only one of his stories or something like that.

01:54:19.000 I liked Coraline and Stardust or something.

01:54:22.000 He's like well you know I'm not gonna pretend like I know what he said.

01:54:28.000 Why'd you show up?

01:54:28.000 Did you ever draw for other people's comics?

01:54:31.000 I mean, I know you just did one recently.

01:54:33.000 Well, yeah.

01:54:34.000 I mean, that's technically my job.

01:54:37.000 People just freelance me.

01:54:39.000 They say, hey, here's some money and you can do the illustrations.

01:54:41.000 So for instance, I was working on Razor Fists.

01:54:43.000 I just did illustrations, like black and white illustrations, like Frank Frazetta.

01:54:47.000 Cool.

01:54:49.000 When was the last time I did a big job?

01:54:52.000 I don't know.

01:54:53.000 For a while I've been doing Indiegogo campaigns in my Etsy shop and stuff, so I have a series, a comic series, that I don't really have time to work on.

01:55:03.000 Two series, actually.

01:55:05.000 So it's really a matter of finding time, to be honest.

01:55:08.000 Do you get approached by Marvel and DC?

01:55:10.000 No, never, no.

01:55:11.000 I would be very surprised if they would even talk to me.

01:55:15.000 They would never work with me.

01:55:16.000 Would you work with them?

01:55:18.000 Um, not under their current leadership.

01:55:20.000 Um, I don't, I mean, first of all, I don't even think it's like remotely possible, uh, because of my reputation and stuff.

01:55:27.000 But even if for some reason they would hire me, um, I don't work super well with other people, especially like editor types and like, um, they have IPs already.

01:55:36.000 So you have to work within the bounds of what they would, uh, Oh, the character would never do this.

01:55:42.000 And I don't really like working within boundaries like that.

01:55:44.000 I want to be able to do.

01:55:46.000 Whatever I want to do.

01:55:48.000 So I like the indie stuff.

01:55:50.000 So I have a couple of series that I've been writing and drawing.

01:55:55.000 I have one black and white horror slash romance slash action story.

01:55:58.000 I have another one with like a derpy mecha suit pilot.

01:56:05.000 It's called Mary Sue, but the idea is that I want to take the tropes of like They complain about how there's not a lot of strong female characters Or they're too perfect and my idea was I want to take a character who's nothing but imperfections she has this power suit that she doesn't deserve and the joke is that she goes on these amazing quests and and fights monsters and pirates and stuff, but she She keeps failing and nobody wants her to save the day because she keeps ruining everything around and the joke is that She does not deserve to have this power suit and it's kind of like a comedy action But also I think it's quite well written if you ask me It's like I like the idea of a character with imperfections and especially a female character with imperfections because so many like she Hulk and stuff like that the conversation is

01:56:52.000 There's all these lady characters that have, their biggest problem is that they're compared to like male characters or society is against them. 1.00

01:57:00.000 It's like, no, no, let's have a female character with real imperfections. 1.00

01:57:04.000 You know, she's a derp, you know, she's clumsy or she's, she's terrible with guys, but she wants to have, you know, dates, but you know, guys look at her like she's a disease, you know, they avoid her. 0.98

01:57:15.000 Yeah, there'd be a lot of relatedness to that.

01:57:16.000 I think it would actually reach a lot of people on a real level.

01:57:19.000 Yeah, and it would be funny, it would be amazing for me to work with a publisher.

01:57:23.000 I've talked to a couple of publishers, but I think it's either the rejection for some reason, or I don't know if they are allergic to my name.

01:57:30.000 All right, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:57:31.000 Kevin Billa says, I wish Tim was on this latest episode of JRE with Mark.

01:57:36.000 You would have asked the real questions.

01:57:38.000 Joe missed so many opportunities.

01:57:39.000 Oh, jeez, oh no!

01:57:41.000 Mark, back!

01:57:41.000 I guess, Joe, you have to invite me on and then bring Mark Zuckerberg back.

01:57:45.000 Yeah!

01:57:46.000 That's how it happened the first time on Twitter.

01:57:48.000 People were critical of Joe because he didn't get to the core of these deeper cultural issues, and then Joe and I ended up having a conversation, and then Joe invited me on his show, and then Joe was like, bro, you wanna come back on with the Twitter CEO? 0.88

01:58:00.000 And I was like, are you nuts? 0.94

01:58:01.000 Yes. 1.00

01:58:02.000 Yes.

01:58:02.000 And then we did.

01:58:03.000 It was great.

01:58:04.000 All right.

01:58:05.000 Reid Boone says, today I had to say goodbye to my beloved 16 year old dog and best friend, Bama.

01:58:10.000 Tim, please say that thing you say about the pain of losing a dog.

01:58:13.000 So the way I describe it is, you have all of this great joy that builds up over the 16 years you had with your best friend.

01:58:21.000 And then when that dog passes, it all gets released at once.

01:58:25.000 All of those memories and all of that love getting released at the exact same time.

01:58:29.000 It's a powerful feeling.

01:58:31.000 I view it as, you know, it's painful at first, but you have to realize that it's a good feeling because all of that feeling only exists because you had that dog for as long as you did or that loved one or whoever.

01:58:44.000 And it is just like it was all built up, all that goodness, and then all at once.

01:58:49.000 So you might be crying, but you'd be smiling because that pain you're feeling is proof of the amazing best friend you just had and lost and all the great times you shared.

01:59:01.000 He says, Ian, please say something about how much of a good girl Bama was.

01:59:05.000 Bama.

01:59:06.000 Good job, Bama.

01:59:07.000 Best girl.

01:59:10.000 Best girl.

01:59:12.000 Jason Jax has just listened to Only Ever Wanted, Spotify, and I love it.

01:59:16.000 How?

01:59:16.000 It's not out yet.

01:59:18.000 Unless in some places people think it's the most pirated song of all time.

01:59:23.000 I don't know.

01:59:25.000 The only thing that's up on our Spotify is the theme songs for Inverted World, which the Season 2 one actually is a really good song that I love playing, and Will of the People, and then the retro 8-bit Will of the People that Carter made.

01:59:39.000 Yeah.

01:59:40.000 All right.

01:59:41.000 Let's see.

01:59:41.000 We'll just grab a couple more here.

01:59:44.000 Let's see where Chet stopped.

01:59:46.000 Yep.

01:59:46.000 No, Super Chats, come back to us!

01:59:48.000 No, that's fine.

01:59:49.000 Alberto Chiprez says SheHulk will do to Daredevil what Hawkeye did to Kingpin.

01:59:54.000 I won't forgive them for that.

01:59:56.000 What do you mean?

01:59:58.000 I'm not sure I understand.

01:59:59.000 Was Kingpin the villain in Hawkeye?

02:00:01.000 I didn't see it.

02:00:02.000 Yeah.

02:00:03.000 And then, like, you think he's dead, but now they're bringing him back in Echo, I think it is.

02:00:07.000 So, I think it's interesting.

02:00:08.000 They're bringing back Daredevil.

02:00:09.000 I think they're bringing back Jessica Jones, Luke Cage.

02:00:12.000 They're bringing all of them back.

02:00:14.000 But, you know, look, man, as a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it is collapsing.

02:00:18.000 It's become a soap opera, you know?

02:00:20.000 It's very soapy.

02:00:21.000 Again, people are dying, they're coming back. 0.86

02:00:24.000 I really don't like... Are they going somewhere?

02:00:27.000 I don't know if there's an endgame to this.

02:00:29.000 No plan works, I'm joking.

02:00:30.000 Well, here's the issue.

02:00:31.000 The first Iron Man was a character story.

02:00:34.000 The first Thor was a character story.

02:00:36.000 The first Captain America was a character story.

02:00:38.000 Then they did sequels, follows up on those characters.

02:00:41.000 I thought all of the first three Iron Man movies were really good.

02:00:45.000 I liked all of the Captain America movies, but Captain America was just Avengers.

02:00:49.000 The first one was Captain America.

02:00:51.000 Then the second one was mini Avengers.

02:00:53.000 Winter Soldier.

02:00:54.000 Then the third one, Civil War, was Avengers fighting each other.

02:00:57.000 Thor, I guess they got worried because people didn't like Dark World.

02:01:01.000 So they made the Thor comedy hour, starring Taika Waititi.

02:01:06.000 It's a great movie.

02:01:07.000 Really enjoyed it.

02:01:08.000 But then they made Love and Thunder, which is the clown hour with Tekko YTT featuring Thor, and it's just like... They've lost it.

02:01:15.000 I haven't seen it yet.

02:01:16.000 It's good.

02:01:16.000 I mean, I like it.

02:01:18.000 But my point is that it's just really off.

02:01:20.000 Like, the whole MCU is just chaos now.

02:01:22.000 And now they're gonna make Blade.

02:01:24.000 So what, vampires exist?

02:01:25.000 They're gonna do the mutants.

02:01:26.000 So what, mutants have always existed?

02:01:27.000 How do you do Charles Xavier?

02:01:28.000 Oh, whatever, man.

02:01:29.000 If they ruin Blade, I won't forgive them.

02:01:31.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:01:31.000 I want to point people to this again, the Infinity Gauntlet.

02:01:34.000 Let's talk us out, and I'll tell you a little bit about this.

02:01:36.000 Alright, everybody!

02:01:37.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, become a member, we have a members-only show coming up at 11pm, uncensored, not family-friendly.

02:01:46.000 You can follow the show at TimCast.org, you can follow me at TimCast.

02:01:48.000 Adam, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:50.000 You can follow me on social media if you'd like.

02:01:52.000 It's just pictures of my family and me doing terrible, hilarious things.

02:01:57.000 It's AdamNotThatOneGuyJohnson with periods in between the words.

02:02:03.000 We also have MrGPrime85.

02:02:04.000 Do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:06.000 That's it.

02:02:06.000 I'm gprime85, and you guys can follow me on Instagram, Twitter, and I poop post all the time.

02:02:13.000 It's great.

02:02:13.000 Poop post.

02:02:14.000 Poop post.

02:02:14.000 Yeah, I like that.

02:02:15.000 Nice job.

02:02:16.000 And I'm Ian Cross, and I want to tell you, if you do like Marvel or want to like Marvel or want to understand why people like Marvel, it is because of things like this.

02:02:23.000 This is the Infinity Gauntlet, episode number one, or issue number one.

02:02:26.000 This is one of the greatest comics ever written, in my opinion.

02:02:28.000 I haven't read them all, but this is...

02:02:30.000 I mean, they made movies.

02:02:31.000 They made many, many movies about this.

02:02:34.000 This is where it all begins.

02:02:36.000 And it's not... I don't know.

02:02:37.000 I didn't see the movie.

02:02:38.000 But the comic's incredible.

02:02:39.000 It's about life and death and love and hate and utilitarianism.

02:02:43.000 It's fantastic.

02:02:44.000 See you later.

02:02:45.000 Alright, you guys, thank you so much for joining me on this eventful Thursday night.

02:02:50.000 My thoughts are certainly with you.

02:02:51.000 To the owner of Bama, I'm very sorry that she passed away.

02:02:53.000 I'm so glad you got to spend so many good years with her.

02:02:56.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets, as well as SourPatchlets.me.

02:03:01.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com.

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