Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - FBI Subpoenas SEVERAL GOP Reps In PA As DOJ Witch Hunt Expands w-Naomi Wolf

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:53.000 so the first story that we had was a poll from Convention of States and

00:01:10.000 Trafalgar group showing that independent Republican voters are furious over the

00:01:14.000 raid on Trump and are heavily motivated now to actually come out and vote in the

00:01:19.000 You gotta wonder, with news like that, if the FBI was just trying to make sure Republicans won.

00:01:24.000 Because three months out from a midterm election, they raid the former president.

00:01:28.000 That's going to light up Independents and Republicans like crazy.

00:01:30.000 But then, as we're getting the show ready, there was a breaking story actually from a couple hours ago from PennLive.

00:01:36.000 The FBI has subpoenaed several PA Republican lawmakers.

00:01:42.000 This is crazy expansion.

00:01:45.000 I don't know what it is they're trying to do, what they're trying to get, but I wonder if this might turn into some kind of October surprise, where they do all of these things now.

00:01:54.000 Sure, it riles up Republicans, but then come October, they issue some criminal indictments on a bunch of individuals and say, aha, look, in an attempt to smear Republicans.

00:02:04.000 I don't know for sure.

00:02:06.000 So we'll talk about that. 0.91

00:02:07.000 And then we got some ridiculous stories.

00:02:09.000 I guess Rosita's been canceled. 0.67

00:02:10.000 What?

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00:03:03.000 friends. Joining us today to talk about this and so much more is Naomi Wolf. Thank you so much for

00:03:09.000 having me on.

00:03:10.000 Do you want to introduce yourself for those who aren't familiar with you?

00:03:13.000 Sure.

00:03:14.000 I'm Naomi Wolf.

00:03:16.000 I'm the author of eight nonfiction books, usually about women's issues or civil liberties.

00:03:22.000 They were all bestsellers, I'm glad to say.

00:03:24.000 I have a new book out called The End of... I'm sorry, that was my last book.

00:03:28.000 My new book is called, which is a sequel to it, is called The Bodies of Others, The New Authoritarians, COVID-19, and the War Against the Human.

00:03:38.000 I am the mother of two and a stepmom of two, wife of a veteran, and I'm also CEO of a tech company called DailyClout.io, a civic tech company.

00:03:48.000 Cool.

00:03:49.000 Yeah, and its goal is to make democracy easier for everyone to use.

00:03:53.000 I know a lot of people were already chatting.

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00:04:07.000 But, and maybe, but I think it's fascinating is that you came out heavily against vaccine mandates and restrictions.

00:04:13.000 You've been canceled and banned over these stances, which I think most of the people who watch this show probably agree with you on. 0.71

00:04:18.000 So I appreciate you coming.

00:04:20.000 I think it's going to be a really interesting conversation.

00:04:21.000 Thank you, Will.

00:04:22.000 I'm so grateful to have it.

00:04:24.000 Right on.

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00:04:27.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire.

00:04:28.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:04:30.000 Hi, everyone.

00:04:31.000 Ian.

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00:04:33.000 Sorry, I guess I need a longer intro.

00:04:35.000 I don't know.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, you gotta promote something when you come on the show.

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00:04:44.000 That's fantastic.

00:04:45.000 I personally love it.

00:04:47.000 Well, I'll promote dailyclout.io, because we were talking about it before the show.

00:04:50.000 It sounds pretty fascinating that you're going to make it easier for people to read and vote and talk about bills before they go to Congress.

00:04:58.000 I love that.

00:04:58.000 So maybe we'll get into that later.

00:05:00.000 But hi, everyone.

00:05:01.000 I'm here to stay.

00:05:02.000 Bye.

00:05:02.000 Ian is here for sure.

00:05:03.000 And I am as well in the corner.

00:05:05.000 I'm delighted to have Naomi.

00:05:06.000 I'm excited to learn about what all we have in common.

00:05:08.000 I think it will surprise all of us.

00:05:10.000 I think it's supposed to thunderstorm too.

00:05:12.000 That'll be fun.

00:05:12.000 Just so that, you know, hopefully anybody who works here is listening just in case.

00:05:16.000 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 I'll put out a word.

00:05:19.000 Yeah, you know, because the power flickers and stuff.

00:05:21.000 This is what happens when you live in the middle of nowhere.

00:05:22.000 Exciting.

00:05:22.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:05:24.000 So as we're getting ready to put the show together, I caught this story.

00:05:28.000 It was published just around 6pm.

00:05:30.000 FBI delivers subpoenas to several PA Republican lawmakers.

00:05:34.000 Sources say, At least some of the individuals receiving subpoenas were told they were not targets of an investigation, according to at least six sources reached by PennLive, but that they may have information of interest to the FBI.

00:05:46.000 All of the sources have been briefed on the investigative moves in some way, but demanded anonymity in order to discuss them.

00:05:52.000 The information being requested centered around U.S.

00:05:54.000 Rep.

00:05:55.000 Scott Perry and the effort to seek alternate electors as part of former President Donald Trump's efforts to remain in office after the 2020 election, several sources said.

00:06:05.000 The Washington Post on Wednesday citing a source familiar with the probe also reported that Perry's cell phone was seized Tuesday as part of the Justice Department's criminal investigation into the use of fake electors to try to overturn President Biden's victory.

00:06:17.000 The Post's source also spoke on the condition of anonymity.

00:06:21.000 Spokespersons for the Pennsylvania House and Senate Republican leaders did not confirm whether any of their caucus members received a subpoena.

00:06:28.000 Quote, I am unaware of any FBI presence in the Capitol or Leader Benninghoff's office yesterday.

00:06:34.000 To the extent House members or my staff may have been contacted by the FBI, we would not comment on a potential or ongoing investigation.

00:06:43.000 So, there's a few simple points to make.

00:06:46.000 And the first one I'm going to say is, I don't trust the FBI.

00:06:49.000 I don't trust the DOJ.

00:06:50.000 I don't trust the federal government.

00:06:53.000 That being said, They're trying to claim that by having alternate electors, it's some kind of fraud.

00:07:00.000 But if you go back to, I think it was 1968, correct me if I'm wrong, during, it was Nixon and Kennedy.

00:07:06.000 Was it 68?

00:07:07.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:07:07.000 I don't know, you want to fact check me?

00:07:09.000 There was a dispute in Hawaii, and Hawaii sent an alternate slate of electors, which Nixon, as the vice president, decided to use, even though they weren't the certified electors.

00:07:20.000 Was it 1960?

00:07:20.000 Was it 60?

00:07:20.000 Nixon, Kennedy, yeah.

00:07:21.000 Okay, so it was 60.

00:07:24.000 Yeah, why did I say 68?

00:07:27.000 Now what happens is you have this contentious legal battle in 2020.

00:07:32.000 A bunch of Republicans, you know, the electors for the Republican side, which were not the certified electors for the state, did fill out these forms and send them in anyway.

00:07:41.000 Now they're acting as though that was a criminal action or fraud or something.

00:07:45.000 Perhaps they're going to use that as a means to stop Donald Trump from being able to run again.

00:07:50.000 Or it's just part of the bigger, just go after Trump by all means or whatever.

00:07:55.000 Do you think this is similar to the Nevada, they call them fake electors, but alternate electors that were subpoenaed by the January 6th committee?

00:08:02.000 Yeah, it's all the same thing.

00:08:04.000 This is so interesting to me because it just looks like the media is writing history in real time.

00:08:09.000 Like, they want us to believe this is insane, it's never happened before, but it happened in 1960.

00:08:14.000 There's nothing crazy about this.

00:08:16.000 They just make it up as they go along.

00:08:17.000 I do think the whole thing's crazy.

00:08:19.000 It is a little weird, yeah.

00:08:20.000 So we had, I think it was 46 states or something that were involved in a lawsuit.

00:08:25.000 Do you remember this?

00:08:25.000 In 2020, Texas filed a lawsuit against, I think, Pennsylvania.

00:08:30.000 Maybe Pennsylvania.

00:08:32.000 And then it expanded into, like, 46 states where you had, like, 24 suing 20, you know, suing these, like, it was Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

00:08:42.000 And then you had the other 22 in defense of those states.

00:08:44.000 Oh, wow.

00:08:45.000 And the Supreme Court, which has original jurisdiction to hear lawsuits between states, rejected it.

00:08:49.000 They said no outright.

00:08:51.000 So we never got resolution on these arguments.

00:08:54.000 And this is leading, now, we're heading to the point where the FBI has raided the home of the former president.

00:08:59.000 Right.

00:09:00.000 Told them their lawyer could not be present while they were enacting the search.

00:09:05.000 Broke the padlock off the room that they requested be there.

00:09:09.000 I got an interesting email earlier, and I'll call it unconfirmed.

00:09:13.000 In my morning segment, I was talking about, there's a report from, I think it's Kendalinian, I could be wrong.

00:09:18.000 He was on NBC, and he said, a few months ago, the FBI requested a padlock be placed on this room at Mar-a-Lago, which had these documents.

00:09:27.000 They then went in and broke the padlock they requested.

00:09:31.000 That's a simple way to put it if you think the FBI is one guy, but the FBI is not one guy.

00:09:35.000 It's not a monolith.

00:09:36.000 So I got contacted by someone alleging that they were a former FBI agent and they said, you know, it didn't tell me anything crazy.

00:09:45.000 They just said, you're right.

00:09:46.000 The FBI is a bunch of different offices.

00:09:49.000 It's not monolithic.

00:09:50.000 There is leadership, but often there, you know, there's like senior leadership that will take actions in one direction without one other office knowing.

00:09:58.000 So my assessment was, One group of on-the-board, on-the-level FBI agents say, okay, we know what you got here, it's fine, just padlock it in case.

00:10:08.000 This other group of agents gets a warrant signed off by an Epstein judge, a former Epstein defense attorney, and then goes in and smashes the padlock and seizes documents or something like that, allegedly.

00:10:21.000 Yeah.

00:10:22.000 So, Banner Republic, Collapse of the United States. 0.98

00:10:25.000 I'll throw it to my panel.

00:10:28.000 One of the most wild things I read coming out of all of that was Andrew Cuomo, who's like, the DOJ should really explain what's going on.

00:10:33.000 Otherwise, it's going to start to look like the January 6th committee is not credible.

00:10:38.000 Andrew Cuomo, the disgraced ex-governor of New York.

00:10:41.000 I mean, if anyone really can recognize when something is corrupt, I would assume someone who has been asked to leave office would be a good judge of character there.

00:10:51.000 Yeah, I mean, should I just jump right in?

00:10:54.000 Yeah, what do you think?

00:10:56.000 You know, when I was a political consultant to the vice president in 2000, also a contested election outcome, in which no one was criminalized for asking questions about the outcome.

00:11:09.000 I mean, this is really haunting me.

00:11:10.000 But also, I advised the Clinton re-election campaign and what I

00:11:15.000 learned as a political consultant is to read events backwards. In other words, what's happening?

00:11:20.000 Like what's the outcome? Like let's leave the story alone because what you learn as a

00:11:25.000 consultant is that at that level the guys in the room choose the outcome and then they go to the message

00:11:31.000 guys down the hall and ask the message guys to come up with a story to get the American people to

00:11:37.000 accept the outcome, the goal.

00:11:40.000 And often the story has nothing to do with the goal.

00:11:42.000 So I'd encourage you almost like, don't pay that much attention to what you're being told about the reasons that lawmakers who are Republican are being subpoenaed or that the President of the United States has You know, 30 people bursting into his private home and seizing his materials.

00:11:59.000 And look at everyone else.

00:12:00.000 Project Veritas is related to this.

00:12:02.000 Steve Bannon having a SWAT team going into his private home is related to this.

00:12:06.000 I mean, leaving the stories aside, the overall chessboard is the criminalization of being a Republican.

00:12:13.000 Did you ever think you'd say that?

00:12:16.000 I mean, yeah, I wrote this book, The End of America, in 2008, warning that we were hurtling toward, you know, that there are 10 steps tyrants always take to close down an open society, and that step 10 is where we're at now.

00:12:28.000 I didn't know we'd get here so fast.

00:12:30.000 I thought we'd headed off at the pass because we're, you know, able to cherish our republic, but clearly we're not doing that.

00:12:37.000 But yeah, so the outcome is you're exactly right to worry about timing, Tim,

00:12:40.000 because these are dangerous months, and I've been saying this for months,

00:12:44.000 leading up to these months.

00:12:46.000 What are we in now?

00:12:48.000 August, September, October, November.

00:12:49.000 It's gonna get crazy.

00:12:50.000 It's gonna get crazy, and the goal is to have things so unstable, so scary, chilling everywhere,

00:12:58.000 shocking images, people's homes being broken open, people being led away in handcuffs,

00:13:02.000 Peter Navarro in leg chains, right?

00:13:05.000 This is all part of the drama, the spectacle, of what other countries like Russia and China understand

00:13:12.000 as tenderizing an enemy.

00:13:14.000 So the American people are being tenderized right now.

00:13:16.000 And the goal is to completely incapacitate the Republican leadership, to scare journalists and critics like you and me, because that's part of it.

00:13:25.000 And I'll just say me, I'm scared.

00:13:28.000 And also to tie up the leadership like Bannon and Trump in so many legal problems and hassles That they are not able to pose a threat to the outcomes that are already foreordained.

00:13:42.000 And Alex Jones.

00:13:43.000 And Alex Jones, absolutely.

00:13:44.000 He's not, you know, Jones was so massively influential in 2014, 15, 16, they found a way to get him off all these platforms.

00:13:53.000 And Alex Jones, for all the criticisms that I think he deserves, he got wiped off of the internet back to back all at the same time.

00:14:01.000 Right.

00:14:01.000 You know, so maybe you can call it a cascade effect, but I think Powerful interests were like, this is a guy who's rallying people with a massive platform.

00:14:10.000 This can't be allowed.

00:14:11.000 Right.

00:14:12.000 I guess my question for you, when you wrote the book in 2008, did you think it was going to be Republicans who would turn out to be the victims of this?

00:14:19.000 That's such a painful question.

00:14:22.000 I mean, at the time, it was Republicans doing the bad things.

00:14:27.000 It's Mitt Romney and John McCain.

00:14:29.000 Oh, no, worse.

00:14:31.000 It was Dick Cheney.

00:14:33.000 I mean, it was Guantanamo.

00:14:34.000 It was, you know, the global war on terror.

00:14:36.000 That was the terrifying internal and external threat invocation that's step one of the 10 steps to fascism.

00:14:42.000 Now it's a virus.

00:14:44.000 But... To be fair, Liz Cheney's still here and she's leading the charge. 0.97

00:14:48.000 Yeah.

00:14:49.000 Well, thank goodness.

00:14:51.000 Wyoming is so happy.

00:14:53.000 I guess what I said then, I mean, I remember this. 1.00

00:14:56.000 My people are so dumb. 0.99

00:14:57.000 Who are your people in this dance? 1.00

00:15:00.000 I mean, I'm a liberal.

00:15:03.000 Classical liberal all my life.

00:15:05.000 Registered Democrat all my life.

00:15:07.000 My former people, my former tribe of the left are very short-sighted.

00:15:13.000 And they're cheering about, you know, Project Veritas is in trouble, Donald Trump is in trouble.

00:15:19.000 It's like cheering the rope that is going to hang them metaphorically, you know, and they're not reading history.

00:15:25.000 But the reason I say this is that in 2008, I remember everyone around me going, We just need to get Obama in and then there will be no more tyranny. 0.90

00:15:35.000 And I'm like, are you insane? 0.98

00:15:37.000 Are you insane? 0.99

00:15:38.000 These things of, you know, shutting down democracies, the left and the right both do it. 0.93

00:15:43.000 And during the Obama years, I was one of like five people on the left, including Glenn Greenwald, who were like, you know what?

00:15:50.000 He's droning Americans. 1.00

00:15:52.000 Guantanamo is still open.

00:15:53.000 It's growing.

00:15:54.000 You know, all of these promises are not being kept.

00:15:58.000 So I didn't expect it would be Republicans being hunted, but I'm not surprised that that

00:16:02.000 has come about.

00:16:03.000 I was fairly young in 2008.

00:16:04.000 I voted for Obama and I was skeptical, but I kept hearing from all these people saying

00:16:09.000 like this guy's different.

00:16:11.000 He's not the same part of the machine.

00:16:12.000 He's an outsider.

00:16:13.000 And you know, he came from community organizing and I was like, I don't know.

00:16:16.000 Sure, whatever.

00:16:17.000 I'll vote for the guy.

00:16:18.000 And then one of the first things he did was he blew up some kids.

00:16:20.000 Right.

00:16:21.000 I think it was like literally within a few days, a drone strike in Pakistan hit a village.

00:16:27.000 And then I was like, wait a minute, we were protesting the war and this guy just did this thing.

00:16:32.000 Then when 2012 came around, I was just like, yeah, right.

00:16:34.000 You're not going to get me to vote for this guy again.

00:16:36.000 And now we've got, I love bringing it up because of how important it is, the extrajudicial assassinations carried out by the Obama administration.

00:16:44.000 This is why I was so adamantly opposed to Joe Biden.

00:16:46.000 I ended up voting for Trump.

00:16:47.000 I didn't vote for him in 2016, but in 2020, I was like, you're not giving me Biden, you know, Obama 2.0, whatever.

00:16:53.000 And it ended up happening.

00:16:56.000 Well, you've had quite a journey.

00:16:57.000 I mean, how do people, your former friends, feel about that?

00:17:01.000 Former friends, you know?

00:17:03.000 Well, interestingly, my real friends that I mostly grew up with, only a few of them have lost their minds.

00:17:09.000 But there have been some weird circumstances.

00:17:11.000 Surprisingly, I have a friend who's deeply woke.

00:17:15.000 Still a really good friend.

00:17:16.000 And just like, we don't talk about it.

00:17:18.000 It's kind of weird.

00:17:19.000 And it comes up sometimes, and you can feel tensions rising, and then it's just like, let's talk about horror movies.

00:17:25.000 But I'm glad that can happen.

00:17:27.000 But I do think, for someone like this, a friend of mine, they're not overtly political.

00:17:33.000 You were mentioning your former liberal associates or cohorts or whatever.

00:17:38.000 They're just not paying attention and they're passively absorbing what they're being told and assuming it's true.

00:17:46.000 I feel like with my friends, liberal or even there are conservatives like this too, a lot of them aren't inherently political and there are a couple issues that matter to them and so they'll buy the whole ticket even though they can't see, like you're saying, that these are ultimately interwoven issues.

00:18:02.000 They can't see what their decisions will lead to in the domino effect.

00:18:06.000 I gotta just jump right to abortion, right?

00:18:09.000 The Democrats recently tried to pass a bill that would allow abortion up to nine months.

00:18:13.000 Oh, God.

00:18:15.000 So it was cleverly worded that in the instance where the mother's health was in jeopardy, an abortion could be carried out post-viability.

00:18:23.000 And so my response, we had a progressive on, was very simple, like, okay, I hear you.

00:18:29.000 If the baby is viable, why abort it?

00:18:31.000 Yeah.

00:18:32.000 Why not just deliver it?

00:18:33.000 Did this person actually support that bill?

00:18:36.000 Yes.

00:18:37.000 And beyond.

00:18:38.000 This individual told us it's the woman's choice no matter what up to the point of birth.

00:18:42.000 Yeah, this is insane.

00:18:43.000 And my position, I grew up in Chicago, I grew up with a liberal family, and we were always like, yeah, maybe like the first trimester pre-viability we understand, after that you're in dangerous territory.

00:18:53.000 Now the left is just wholesale like, whenever, whatever.

00:18:56.000 I think Larry Elder was on the show and saying that it's the health of the mother as well.

00:19:00.000 So it could be like if she's going to suffer depression, then maybe she can terminate an eight and a half month old fetus. 0.99

00:19:06.000 It's not just about the life of the mother, it's about the health of the mother, which is like vague.

00:19:10.000 But just to bring it up, you know, you as a, I guess, you consider yourself a former liberal?

00:19:15.000 You're still liberal.

00:19:16.000 No, I'm a classical liberal.

00:19:18.000 I, you know, me and three other people.

00:19:20.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 Or politically homeless.

00:19:22.000 Yes, totally.

00:19:23.000 A political refugee.

00:19:24.000 So you're obviously not in favor of abortion up to nine months.

00:19:27.000 No, I am not.

00:19:29.000 It's crazy what the left has become.

00:19:31.000 That they would call us right-wing for raising questions about that.

00:19:35.000 It's crazy.

00:19:35.000 It's insane.

00:19:36.000 I mean, what really scares me about this is what I'm seeing on the left is this kind of Entrainment almost intellectually where if the thing is support Ukraine, you can't ask any questions about, you know, Ukraine's abusiveness to the rule of law.

00:19:53.000 If the thing is abortion, and under any circumstances, no matter how crazy the bill is, no matter how extreme, how sadistic, how abusive, How I would say anti-woman and anti-baby it is to, you know, extend the abortion capability into the second month, into the, I'm sorry, second trimester, third trimester.

00:20:15.000 If that's the thing, it just seems to be plugged into people's minds on the right, and they just kind of follow like lemmings, like with no critical thinking, they can't demur.

00:20:25.000 And there are a lot of interesting reasons for that, but I do think on the left, critical debate is no longer possible, and And it's so important to distinguish themselves from Trump lovers or whatever they call anyone who disagrees with them.

00:20:42.000 And that's really scary to me because if you look at history, it's people in that mind state that go along with genocide.

00:20:48.000 And look what they went along with.

00:20:50.000 And go along with the former left, people I know and love, who would never discriminate against a gay couple or a lesbian couple, never discriminate on the basis of race, embraced a discrimination society that was just like a Jim Crow two-tier discrimination society.

00:21:06.000 When did you start?

00:21:09.000 I couldn't walk into a building in New York City because I'm not vaccinated.

00:21:15.000 And people I know and love who are right on, we're completely fine with treating unvaccinated people legally and in every other way as others who are less than. 0.95

00:21:26.000 Oh yeah, like plague rats or something.

00:21:28.000 I've heard that before.

00:21:29.000 But to add to your point, we had in Dearborn, Michigan, the non-POC and the POC digital cafes, University of Michigan.

00:21:37.000 In Seattle, they have... What?

00:21:38.000 Yeah, have you seen them?

00:21:39.000 That's illegal!

00:21:41.000 That's not legal!

00:21:43.000 Who was it?

00:21:44.000 Was it Michael Seifert just the other day?

00:21:47.000 Mentioning Yelp, I think he said?

00:21:49.000 That was offering a grant based on race?

00:21:51.000 I could be wrong, I don't know.

00:21:53.000 Super illegal!

00:21:54.000 Totally illegal!

00:21:55.000 There were African American students at NYU that were asking for their own dorm.

00:22:00.000 That's segregation. 0.95

00:22:01.000 But they were like, no, it's better for us.

00:22:02.000 Yep.

00:22:03.000 Yep.

00:22:04.000 So you've been in politics way longer than I have.

00:22:07.000 When did you start noticing this shift happening in the left losing their minds?

00:22:12.000 That's tough.

00:22:13.000 I mean, I guess in the last four or five years, I would see positions that were out there on the left and I would just dismiss them because I thought that's nonsense.

00:22:27.000 No one I know really would believe that or do that.

00:22:30.000 Like the whole like the first time I remember hearing the phrase dead white men and that culture created by dead white men or the phrase toxic masculinity I would just think well that's ridiculous those are ridiculous concepts you know why how can you possibly take seriously dismissing great works of art masterpieces our whole cultural heritage because of the gender and race of the person who did it that's racism and that's sexism obviously and it's also self-destructive and As a mom of a man and a stepmom of a 11-year-old future man, I really, you know, object to this phrase toxic masculinity or nonsensical statements about like male sexuality, heterosexuality being innately, you know, abusive or

00:23:17.000 Exploitive.

00:23:18.000 Those are very damaging things to say to young men and boys, and they're also just destructive because it doesn't have to be that way, and it, you know, where's love?

00:23:27.000 And where's, you know, this ideal of people finding each other if they happen to be heterosexual?

00:23:32.000 That shouldn't be any, you know, less valid than any other sexuality that people want to be.

00:23:38.000 So, but I didn't take those seriously, but once, like, victory's so bad for us on the left.

00:23:44.000 It's so toxic for us to win.

00:23:46.000 Because once we won, you know, the presidency and the House, it was like a scary Marxist flood that was like latent and dormant, very much influenced by the CCP, I am convinced, and the World Economic Forum and other bad actors, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

00:24:05.000 But this latent Marxist, Stalinist, aggressive, violent, coercive flood of nonsense just erupted, and now people on the left have no qualms about being as coercive and oppressive as they want to be.

00:24:23.000 I like posting on, I got a lot of Occupy Wall Street people who follow me, and I like posting on, they'll post things like, Trump has been raided by the feds, they'll laugh with smiley faces, and I'll be like, my response to them is always, I'm glad that you finally came around to supporting the feds and the federal government.

00:24:37.000 Right?

00:24:38.000 It took you a long time to realize they were the good guys.

00:24:40.000 Absolutely.

00:24:41.000 And then their response is like, well, I mean, it's different.

00:24:45.000 Hey, keep cheering them on, man, keep cheering them on, because we know where this goes.

00:24:48.000 But when did they stop?

00:24:50.000 Having like the Kantian imperative of it has to be consistent.

00:24:54.000 If you don't want them to shut you down and censor you, you can't censor Project Veritas.

00:25:00.000 If you don't want them to come for your president, you can't go for their president.

00:25:04.000 Why don't they see that?

00:25:05.000 Would you say that they feel like they have the moral high ground?

00:25:07.000 Totally.

00:25:08.000 The things that Project Veritas are doing, while they may be structurally similar, you know, it's another form of censorship to oppress them, it's worth oppressing because they are promoting the wrong things.

00:25:19.000 Well, you're a thousand percent right.

00:25:22.000 And it's, again, super scary because on the left, there's been this mission creep of language.

00:25:28.000 Increasingly, you know what I'm going to say, right?

00:25:30.000 Yeah.

00:25:30.000 Increasingly identifying thoughts as violence or speech as incitement, such that it in January 6th with a big We have to cut it off before the thought even gets there.

00:25:44.000 feels like the people who disagree with them are so dangerous and all white supremacist and you know

00:25:50.000 the things they think are so innately violent even if they just cut it off before the thought

00:25:56.000 even gets there we can't expose any of this material to anyone because they might indoctrinate

00:26:01.000 someone else aka get them to think about an issue in a way that we don't believe in absolutely and

00:26:06.000 sorry oh is the fear that if trump becomes president he's gonna make america like a

00:26:11.000 america accuracy is he getting He's going to make it totalitarian?

00:26:14.000 Because they're using the FBI to kick down doors right now.

00:26:17.000 What are they afraid is going to happen?

00:26:19.000 I mean, they're afraid someone's going to kick their door down.

00:26:21.000 We're both from New York.

00:26:22.000 It's the Northeast over here.

00:26:25.000 Okay, so truly the left believes, and I used to believe a lot of this, I really did, because they lie to us, legacy media lies to us, and liberal media lies to us.

00:26:34.000 I'm not saying the right is perfect or doesn't distort, but these are the kinds of things the left truly believes.

00:26:41.000 That if Trump were elected or there was another right-wing or conservative president, it would be like Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale.

00:26:51.000 The one reference we can't get over as a society.

00:26:54.000 Harry Potter.

00:26:55.000 Right? 0.96

00:26:56.000 And that every conservative is racist, every conservative is homophobic, and that it would be Kind of a Bible-based reactionary America in which religious minorities would be quashed, in which there would be no freedom to love, there would be a fossil fuel orgy leading to the demise of the planet in a matter of weeks. 0.98

00:27:22.000 Is this fair? 0.96

00:27:23.000 I mean, is there more you want to add?

00:27:25.000 Totally that women would be forced to conceive and raise children, you know, that they didn't want or that they couldn't take care of. 1.00

00:27:33.000 And, you know, there's some truth to these concerns, but in a functioning civil society, you talk these things out, and you create policies that, you know, meet in the middle.

00:27:42.000 I don't believe them, because they may actually have broken worldviews, that I can believe, but this idea that the right is simultaneously advancing fascism while trying to give you guns makes no sense.

00:27:57.000 I argued that the Second Amendment does cover nuclear weapons.

00:28:03.000 Not that it should cover nuclear weapons.

00:28:05.000 But during the time of the Founding Fathers, you could have a privateer, you could have a frigate, you could have grapeshot, you could have a plethora of cannons, the same armaments the government had.

00:28:14.000 That never changed.

00:28:16.000 So my point was, perhaps people would agree you should not allow this and we would need to make that amendment.

00:28:22.000 They all got really angry that I'd bring it up.

00:28:24.000 My point here is... Why were they angry, if you don't mind my asking?

00:28:27.000 Well, they called me like a wingnut, arguing that people should have nuclear weapons.

00:28:29.000 People misinterpreted it.

00:28:30.000 Because it sounds terrifying to them.

00:28:31.000 They didn't misinterpret it.

00:28:32.000 Media Matters cut my quote off.

00:28:34.000 You said people should have nuclear weapons, according to the Second Amendment.

00:28:37.000 They thought he meant, I think morally people should have nuclear weapons.

00:28:40.000 Where he was saying, no, legally, according to the rule right now, people should be able to... But just my point right now is...

00:28:46.000 I'll tell you, I'll tell you a story.

00:28:47.000 I was in Berkeley during the battle for Berkeley when all the Antifa were fighting the Trump supporters.

00:28:51.000 And I actually got to talk to an Antifa guy after everything was calming down because I was just standing there like, you know.

00:28:55.000 And this guy said, I asked this Antifa guy like, what happened?

00:28:58.000 And he said, they came up and they punched my friend.

00:29:01.000 And then we started talking, and he told me that he brought a knife, that he was going to defend himself. 0.93

00:29:06.000 And I asked him why, and he said, because these are fascists, man. 0.99

00:29:09.000 They want to kill people. 0.99

00:29:10.000 And I said, you think all of those people in that park are fascists right there? 1.00

00:29:13.000 And he's like, yeah, dude, they're all fascists.

00:29:16.000 And I said, do you think that those people in that park want to defend the Second Amendment?

00:29:21.000 And he was like, Well, yeah, of course, the right always talking about guns.

00:29:24.000 And I was like, do you think that they would then care if you had guns?

00:29:28.000 Like, no, I'm like, so you think they're fascists, but they want you to have guns, right?

00:29:31.000 And he was like, oh, and I'm like, yeah, I don't get your logic.

00:29:35.000 There's no logic there.

00:29:36.000 It's just tribalism, right?

00:29:38.000 It is, but also a horrible thing has happened in the last 10 or 15 years in America in which these two groups never get to talk to each other.

00:29:46.000 And I think social media has really escalated that because the algorithm makes sure that you only... You're fed further and further to one side of the spectrum or the other.

00:29:55.000 You can see a YouTube video with someone you don't agree with.

00:29:59.000 Back in the day, you could make a video response.

00:30:01.000 And we had incredible conversations in 2007.

00:30:04.000 Google's taken away the video response mechanic, oddly.

00:30:08.000 But I want to respond.

00:30:09.000 I mean, the meme is that Ben Shapiro is screaming, debate me.

00:30:13.000 Like, people on the right are adamantly saying, come have the conversation.

00:30:17.000 I mean, we had Larry Elder on this show, and he was talking about how he's invited all of these people and they won't come and talk to him.

00:30:24.000 I mean, we talked about this on the way up, Tim.

00:30:26.000 You know, I run into this as an editor of Daily Cloud, and it breaks my heart.

00:30:30.000 We on the left, or we liberals I'll say, we're supposed to be the ones who believe in free speech.

00:30:34.000 Remember the free speech movement in Berkeley?

00:30:36.000 That was led by the left.

00:30:38.000 Mario Savio was on the left.

00:30:40.000 We're supposed to believe in, you know, not believe in censorship.

00:30:44.000 Allen Ginsberg, you know, like, Lady Chatterley's lover, these are liberals. But now I'll

00:30:51.000 have people send me right-leaning op-eds and I'll reach out to all of my remaining liberal contacts

00:30:56.000 or just put out the word.

00:30:57.000 We go to NARAL and say, will you please tell us why this pro-life op-ed is wrong, write your own op-ed, and

00:31:05.000 they won't do it.

00:31:06.000 Or we'll go to the green advocates and say, tell us why this pro-fossil fuel op-ed is wrong, and they won't do it.

00:31:11.000 They'll just say, you shouldn't run that material.

00:31:13.000 I'm not going to appear in a document where other people who hold these views appear.

00:31:17.000 I'll give a shout out to Jacobin.

00:31:19.000 Are you familiar with Jacobin magazine?

00:31:20.000 I am.

00:31:20.000 They're pro free speech.

00:31:21.000 Good for them.

00:31:22.000 I've consistently seen articles from them where they say outright we should not tolerate the censorship and things like that.

00:31:27.000 And I'm like, hey man, look, I don't got to agree with the socialists.

00:31:30.000 If we agree on respecting each other's right to speak, then I'll take what I can get.

00:31:34.000 What happened?

00:31:34.000 Now you've got, following the FBI raids, a bunch of MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene, I guess

00:31:39.000 she's selling merch, I'm not entirely sure, but it says like defund the FBI.

00:31:42.000 Crowder has called for something similar.

00:31:44.000 The Washington Post ran a story saying the right now wants to defund law enforcement

00:31:47.000 and leftists are laughing.

00:31:49.000 And I'm like, bro, this was your position.

00:31:51.000 Shouldn't you be cheering?

00:31:52.000 Shouldn't you be like, we're winning?

00:31:55.000 What happened is that their opponents are getting the punishment.

00:31:58.000 I don't know, they enjoy it.

00:32:00.000 Another problem is that censorship's important in the right context.

00:32:03.000 You don't want to allow people to make imminent threats of violence.

00:32:05.000 It's illegal under the First Amendment.

00:32:06.000 It's already illegal.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, and it's illegal as a form of censorship.

00:32:09.000 And pictures of children should not be allowed.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, stuff like that.

00:32:11.000 You censor that stuff.

00:32:12.000 You need censors. 0.96

00:32:13.000 But corporations now are in control of the public square with Alphabet and Meta and things like that where they can More or less terminate your access to the masses.

00:32:23.000 And people, the law has yet to catch up to that.

00:32:25.000 I don't think that private companies should be overriding the First Amendment in the United States.

00:32:31.000 So I advocate that we free the software code of large social networks so that other people can spin up networks that can interoperate with them and it will free the... Seize the means of production.

00:32:42.000 Free the means of production!

00:32:45.000 Similar.

00:32:45.000 Let's jump to this story here.

00:32:47.000 This is the story we were originally going to lead with.

00:32:49.000 This is from conventionofstates.com.

00:32:51.000 Large majority of independents, Republicans, believe Trump's political enemies are behind the FBI raid and are now more likely to vote in 2022 midterms.

00:33:02.000 This is from Trafalgar Group and the Convention of States.

00:33:04.000 They say 83% of Republicans, 72% of Independents, now more likely to vote.

00:33:10.000 I mean, that's really good news if you want Republicans to win.

00:33:12.000 It's the best get-out-the-vote effort the government's ever had.

00:33:16.000 But right.

00:33:17.000 And so there's a few points to be made.

00:33:18.000 The first thing I want to say is there's no guarantee Republicans winning does anything for anybody.

00:33:22.000 Granted, seeing more like America First style politicians who are just like, more like Ron

00:33:26.000 Paul, like just no, we're gonna rescind government authority and things like that, I can accept

00:33:30.000 as it's better in my opinion that many of these candidates win than the Democrats retain

00:33:34.000 control and steamroll through things.

00:33:37.000 But I have to wonder, was the FBI, if there's no political motivation in what the FBI is

00:33:42.000 doing, then they don't care that this is riling up independent voters and Republican voters.

00:33:48.000 Yes, there is political motivation, which I think most people believe there is.

00:33:53.000 So my assumption now is October surprise that in about two and a half months, these raids

00:33:59.000 and spinos, the reason they're doing it now is so they can have the filings done.

00:34:03.000 They can have the judges signatures and then come the end of October, it's bam.

00:34:07.000 Criminal indictment, criminal indictment, accusation, accusation.

00:34:10.000 The entirety of the corporate press will be dominated with Republican arrested, Republican arrested, so they don't lose the midterms.

00:34:17.000 How else do they expect?

00:34:19.000 With massive inflation.

00:34:21.000 With horrible gas prices.

00:34:22.000 I know they've come down quite a bit, bravo, but they're still really high.

00:34:25.000 The misery index is so high.

00:34:27.000 And the historical trends, Democrats should get wiped out in the midterms.

00:34:31.000 Unless they can pull some insane October surprise and make a bunch of arrests.

00:34:35.000 Maybe, maybe not, but that's kind of what it feels like to me here, huh?

00:34:39.000 I feel like I'd go one step further to say the ultimate goal to what you're talking about before was they want to try and prevent Trump from running again and if they destroy the credibility of anyone who is kind of positioned as an ally to him as someone who has supported him not just like he's a bad guy we don't like it but he's literally on trial he's in jail they're hoping to win enough support to make it seem like it's an absolute non-starter.

00:35:08.000 We cannot elect Donald Trump.

00:35:10.000 I don't think they have a better candidate.

00:35:11.000 I don't think Joe Biden will be able to run again.

00:35:14.000 So really what they're trying to do is knock the Republicans most likely chess piece off the table to try and get ahead of whatever's going to happen next because they are in a weak position themselves.

00:35:26.000 Larry Elder said it has to be Kamala Harris because Democrats are dependent upon the black vote and that if they abandon Kamala Harris for someone else, it's going to be deeply hurtful to the black community.

00:35:38.000 She's not competent. 0.61

00:35:40.000 And she's deeply unpopular.

00:35:42.000 I don't know if I necessarily agree, but far be it for me to claim to know better than Larry Elder.

00:35:46.000 I thought Cortez, I mean, it's almost like, is she actually going to run for president?

00:35:50.000 That'd be cool.

00:35:51.000 I hope she does.

00:35:51.000 At least that'd be someone to listen to.

00:35:53.000 We talked about it before, a Trump AOC debate.

00:35:56.000 Great.

00:35:58.000 So I got a couple angry emails from people.

00:36:01.000 They're like, how dare you say you would like to see AOC run for president?

00:36:05.000 I'm like, yeah, I think it'd be hilarious.

00:36:07.000 I mean, fantastic.

00:36:08.000 That's way better than what the Democratic Governor's Association is doing to their voters, right?

00:36:12.000 They're pouring money into races to get the quote unquote most extreme candidate elected so they can theoretically beat them in the midterm.

00:36:19.000 But think about that.

00:36:20.000 The Democrats have been funding, we know this, the MAGA candidates, the Trump supporting candidates, or they've been funding their messages.

00:36:28.000 Really?

00:36:28.000 Yeah.

00:36:28.000 Yes.

00:36:29.000 Oh, my God.

00:36:30.000 This is weird.

00:36:32.000 The idea is that Trump candidates cannot win in a general election.

00:36:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:36:37.000 So when you put them in— They're driving everything to the extremes.

00:36:41.000 But my point here is, real quick, consider that.

00:36:44.000 Now consider what the FBI is doing.

00:36:46.000 Seems to make a bit more sense.

00:36:48.000 They fund a bunch of these ultra MAGA candidates, then the FBI starts going after Trump and his inner circle to taint the well and poison these candidates.

00:36:57.000 So when they make a criminal indictment of someone in the Trump circle, or Trump himself, they can say, the criminal man himself endorsed this candidate, don't vote for him!

00:37:05.000 Right, right.

00:37:06.000 Oh my god.

00:37:08.000 So ugly.

00:37:09.000 I mean, there's also the possibility that if they funded MAGA candidates, which is like smarter than I I'm used to Democrats being, but they also would know if there's any dirty linen because they have to do opposition research.

00:37:24.000 Right.

00:37:24.000 And they save it for October.

00:37:26.000 And they save it for October for sure.

00:37:28.000 But I think it could be even worse.

00:37:31.000 I think that there's an element of trying to provoke Republicans, especially Trump supporters.

00:37:38.000 I think they're going to be very shocking images we're going to see, you know, with God forbid, I hope I'm wrong and I have to be nonpartisan.

00:37:43.000 So I'm saying this very carefully.

00:37:45.000 I think we're going to see images of like the president in handcuffs or the president in a perp walk or the president behind bars or some kind of highly iconic image.

00:37:58.000 And I think that the goal is to provoke and we're going to get and I'm seeing it already a lot of like social media.

00:38:04.000 whipping people's emotions up, instigators, infiltrators, and violence.

00:38:08.000 And that will be a justification for a crackdown, state of emergency, you can't vote in person,

00:38:14.000 you have to vote by mail, and then of course we know the vulnerabilities with that.

00:38:18.000 Yeah, trouble is supposed to be to count your votes for you guys. Everyone give me a piece

00:38:22.000 of paper, I'll tell you what the tally was. Biden's on it.

00:38:24.000 Yeah, I mean that's the argument.

00:38:26.000 I completely agree with Ian that we have a proprietary company.

00:38:29.000 We have a company with proprietary software code in how our voting is handled.

00:38:34.000 It should be public.

00:38:35.000 I totally agree.

00:38:36.000 I also think people should photograph their vote and we've offered at Daily Clout, you can send it to us and we'll create a locked third party kind of platform where you can mirror your vote and at least there will be a record of it.

00:38:50.000 What are your thoughts on January 6th?

00:38:53.000 A lot of them, huh?

00:38:55.000 I mean, it's a very difficult thing to answer, partly because speech about January 6th is being criminalized.

00:39:03.000 I think I will just say that, you know, the rule of law is incredibly important, both, you know, to protect our institutions and also to protect the rights of people who are accused of crimes.

00:39:16.000 And the other thing I will say is that very generally America has a long history of infiltrators and provocateurs.

00:39:24.000 Yup.

00:39:24.000 I remember watching a video a long time ago, it was out of Canada, where it was some leftist protest, and there were three guys that were wearing what was very obviously a uniform.

00:39:33.000 Like, they were undercover cops, and they were like, this is what protesters wear, put on a hoodie, jeans, and boots.

00:39:39.000 And then everyone's like, those three guys dressed the exact same and started throwing bottles.

00:39:42.000 Right.

00:39:42.000 You know, so we hear a lot of stories like that.

00:39:44.000 There was that story out of, I think it was Minnesota, where a guy shows up and smashes out windows and then leaves.

00:39:48.000 I don't know exactly what happened with that.

00:39:50.000 But I guess the concern now is, you know with Ray Epps, I'm sure you're familiar with the Ray Epps saga.

00:39:55.000 Here's a guy on camera telling people to go in the building and now the media is calling him a victim.

00:40:00.000 So you got, there was a report yesterday that armed protesters were going to show up to Mar-a-Lago and everyone immediately says Feds.

00:40:09.000 Because the right doesn't protest.

00:40:12.000 They almost never go outside.

00:40:15.000 What?

00:40:16.000 Well, they go outside, but not to protest.

00:40:18.000 I mean for protests.

00:40:21.000 But it's obvious.

00:40:22.000 If you live in a big city where it's predominantly liberal, it's really easy to walk outside and see other people who agree with you and march.

00:40:29.000 If you live in a rural area, you could be between 100 yards and 10 miles from the nearest person.

00:40:39.000 Not easy to organize that protest.

00:40:41.000 And then where do you protest?

00:40:42.000 In cities, it's easy to walk from, like, town hall to, like, the police station.

00:40:46.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 But if you live in a big, unincorporated area, where are you going to protest?

00:40:50.000 There's, like, one stoplight.

00:40:51.000 You're gonna drive to D.C.?

00:40:51.000 Right.

00:40:52.000 What we end up seeing is protests overwhelmingly tend to be left or liberal.

00:40:58.000 Rarely are they right-wing or conservative, though they do happen.

00:41:02.000 So when you get people showing up armed and doing these right-wing protests, people just kind of roll their eyes like, what?

00:41:06.000 What is going on?

00:41:08.000 Yeah, I mean, to be fair, there were a lot of real people really in DC to support the president.

00:41:15.000 That's their right to show up in DC to support the president.

00:41:18.000 I think, what was it, like 200,000 some odd people showed up, and then there was like 800 at the Capitol.

00:41:24.000 So they demonize every single person who was in DC to see Trump speak, conflating Watching a man talk with storming into a building.

00:41:33.000 That's the really scary thing.

00:41:34.000 And I must add, they can inflate the people who stormed into the building with those who are let in by the police.

00:41:39.000 On the other side of the building, it was a huge city block, that building.

00:41:42.000 And the people on one side were breaking stuff.

00:41:43.000 The other people were being let in by police and they threw them all in detention.

00:41:48.000 No, no, no.

00:41:48.000 We let those people out, man.

00:41:49.000 It's time for a great pardon.

00:41:50.000 I don't care any of them.

00:41:51.000 Joe Biden dealings in Ukraine.

00:41:53.000 He's sending his son on the board of an energy company in Ukraine.

00:41:56.000 Pardon him.

00:41:57.000 I'm done with going after people right now.

00:42:00.000 Why?

00:42:00.000 Because if we try and persecute each other, it's just going to be passing the football back and forth and back.

00:42:05.000 Ian, it's not persecution, it's justice.

00:42:08.000 I mean, our system calls for a trial by jury, a trial by one's peers.

00:42:13.000 People have to be accountable for what they've done.

00:42:16.000 We've supported the war machine for too long.

00:42:18.000 We're all culpable.

00:42:20.000 Yeah, but Hunter Biden, look, I'll put it this way.

00:42:24.000 The January 6th defendants who have been locked up in, like, solitary, that shouldn't be happening.

00:42:28.000 I mean, they can be under house arrest, not going anywhere.

00:42:30.000 Did you see what WalkAway did at CPAC?

00:42:32.000 They had, like, a cage with someone listening to testimony the whole time.

00:42:35.000 It was Brandon Strzoka.

00:42:36.000 He's great.

00:42:37.000 So I think he was actually convicted, you know.

00:42:39.000 We've been villainous as Americans for too long.

00:42:42.000 You can put Hunter Biden on trial, we don't gotta throw him in solitary.

00:42:46.000 You can put the January 6th rioters on trial, you don't gotta put them in solitary.

00:42:49.000 I would absolutely respect them being like, look, you guys were violent, okay?

00:42:54.000 House arrest until your court date, and then you get charged...

00:42:59.000 Based on the crime you committed, that's the reality of things.

00:43:01.000 Hunter Biden?

00:43:02.000 Yeah, we want an investigation into what he was doing in Ukraine and in China.

00:43:06.000 I want an investigation into what Joe Biden's relationship was in all of this, sharing phone numbers, sharing emails.

00:43:12.000 I don't think we just say, you know, you're free to go, we're done.

00:43:17.000 But I'll put it this way.

00:43:18.000 I do agree, and I've said it before, when it comes to January 6th defendants, a powerful move would be to pardon all of them as a sign of, like, we are seeking to end the conflict.

00:43:28.000 But it's got to be nonpartisan.

00:43:30.000 I wouldn't just pardon them.

00:43:30.000 You've got to pardon more than that.

00:43:32.000 I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I so disagree with both of you about this.

00:43:38.000 God, where do I start?

00:43:40.000 I mean, so I'm a survivor of a very bad crime when I was a child.

00:43:46.000 And the people who suffer most when the rule of law is degraded are women and children.

00:43:51.000 And what I'm seeing right now with Defund the Police and this movement, which is crazy to defund the police or to let people, you know, commit a certain amount of shoplifting before they get arrested, as in Santa Monica where I just was, or just the degradation of the rule of law, the rise of crime, is that it hurts women and children most.

00:44:08.000 I don't want to get drawn into details of January 6th, but I will say again that Kantian imperative.

00:44:15.000 We have to be against violence.

00:44:17.000 We have to be against people breaking the law.

00:44:21.000 Whether it's there, whether it's the mercenaries who are beating truckers in Canada, that's violence.

00:44:26.000 That's against the rule of law.

00:44:28.000 Whether it's people being locked in solitary confinement, that's against the Geneva Conventions.

00:44:32.000 That's against the rule of law.

00:44:33.000 Like everywhere we need to restore and make consistent the rule of law rather than abandon it, I believe.

00:44:38.000 But isn't there just a... I understand Ian's point.

00:44:42.000 I don't know if I would go so far as to be like Hunter Biden's free to go.

00:44:45.000 Maybe I'm a little biased when I say the January 6th rioters or protesters, but the idea there is if we keep doing a tit for tat, it's going to escalate and keep escalating.

00:44:54.000 You said the right thing, Tim.

00:44:55.000 You said like there is a code of Penalties for certain laws.

00:45:00.000 It's very cut-and-dried.

00:45:01.000 I mean the law is a beautiful thing if you really look at it You know each person not just there but anywhere across the country Antifa everybody, you know If they committed a crime the crime will be in that state book of crimes and there's a penal code and they should be You know, be tried and sentenced fairly, or tried and acquitted fairly.

00:45:22.000 It's the politicization that's so dangerous.

00:45:25.000 I want to pardon these people because, one, it acknowledges that they did commit a crime.

00:45:30.000 Right now, no one's acknowledging that Biden committed a crime that I can see in the position of power.

00:45:35.000 James Clapper said, we did not wittingly spy on Americans with the PRISM program.

00:45:39.000 We did.

00:45:40.000 He did.

00:45:40.000 He and his department wittingly spied on Americans.

00:45:42.000 He committed perjury.

00:45:44.000 Pardon him.

00:45:45.000 Acknowledge that he committed the crime and pardon him.

00:45:48.000 Because right now people are pretending like he didn't commit a crime.

00:45:50.000 It's even worse.

00:45:51.000 But why not investigate him and try him?

00:45:54.000 Because I don't want to hurt these people.

00:45:55.000 I want to help the species.

00:45:57.000 What you're describing seems like a political prisoner swap to me.

00:45:59.000 We're just going to keep trading back and forth.

00:46:01.000 Like, oh, well, this is a Democrat.

00:46:03.000 So here's a Republican.

00:46:04.000 Occasionally the Green Party is going to be like, what are we doing?

00:46:06.000 to like get someone like at the end of the day it doesn't seem as productive it sounds nice but i think ultimately you're right like we have rule of law for a reason we should indict people and investigate them and bring them to a fair trial but just saying well like we think maybe you did something hunter but we can't prove it but preemptively we'll pardon you so we can pardon these other people so later we can pardon him like it just seems complicated and unproductive to me Geez, I mean, the last two years have been horribly unproductive.

00:46:31.000 It's like the United States is an abusive relationship beating each other, and there's a whole world out there that we're not paying attention to because they're too busy beating each other, and I'm tired of it.

00:46:40.000 I totally agree with you about that.

00:46:42.000 So I suppose the issue— About the divisiveness, yeah, sorry.

00:46:45.000 You know, we all sit here, and I think we've actually started paying attention, all of us, at some point, and we learned some interesting facts about what Joe Biden was doing.

00:46:54.000 I see these memes on the left where they're like Donald Trump committed 34 crimes or something like that and it's like all made up.

00:46:59.000 Like Russia gate was fake, Ukraine gate was fake.

00:47:01.000 And they just make these stories up.

00:47:04.000 These people are convinced they're seeking justice.

00:47:07.000 Not all of them.

00:47:07.000 Some of them are just tribal.

00:47:09.000 But a lot of them are like, Trump committed crimes!

00:47:10.000 He has to be held accountable!

00:47:11.000 And it's like, what crimes?

00:47:13.000 And they're like, documents!

00:47:16.000 Did you see that video Luke Rutkowski reposted today where it's like someone protesting outside of Trump Towers and they're like, we want him arrested for the provable crimes.

00:47:23.000 They're like, oh, what provable crimes?

00:47:25.000 And he's like...

00:47:26.000 Provable crime?

00:47:27.000 Uh... I gotta stop the interview right now, actually.

00:47:30.000 It's the most awkward... This is freaking hilarious.

00:47:33.000 Let me see, I'm trying to find it.

00:47:34.000 Going down, down, down.

00:47:36.000 There it is.

00:47:36.000 That's the one, yeah.

00:47:38.000 This is really funny.

00:47:39.000 Wait, wait.

00:47:39.000 I always gotta fix the audio.

00:47:41.000 Always the audio.

00:47:41.000 I always gotta make sure the audio is going to the people who are actually watching the show.

00:47:44.000 I don't know what the concept... Is this unprecedented?

00:47:46.000 To arrest a former president for not turning in documents?

00:47:49.000 Well, I don't know who made up the former president that had committed this many provable criminal acts.

00:47:54.000 What are the provable criminal acts, I guess?

00:47:59.000 Provable criminal acts.

00:48:00.000 Well...

00:48:02.000 I'm just, I'm done talking.

00:48:05.000 I'm done.

00:48:05.000 Can I just say, on the left, I've had people do that, wave at me, like, I'm done, we're done, we're done.

00:48:12.000 It's like, where did that come from?

00:48:13.000 When did that become a thing?

00:48:14.000 You could just say, I'm done.

00:48:16.000 There's these mind viruses right now.

00:48:17.000 You'll hear people talking right, and they'll say right after they say something, as if they're asking you if what they're saying is correct.

00:48:23.000 Wow.

00:48:23.000 It's like a cult, it's like a tribal cult recognition thing, like upspeak.

00:48:28.000 I hear Rogan talking about it sometimes.

00:48:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:30.000 And sometimes if you ask someone something and then you make the statement, right?

00:48:34.000 Like you're really asking, am I right?

00:48:36.000 That's a different thing.

00:48:37.000 When you, when you're just doing it to get people to agree with you, it's this weird insecurity thing.

00:48:42.000 It started in like the last two years.

00:48:43.000 Watch for it.

00:48:44.000 It's amazing.

00:48:44.000 I want to, I want to play the game with, with this guy on this interview.

00:48:47.000 I want to, I want to play too.

00:48:48.000 So Trump's provable crimes.

00:48:52.000 I don't think there are any.

00:48:53.000 I can criticize him for it because during his administration, the State Department was advertising his golf resorts or his resorts, and he did try to have, I believe the G7 at Trump Doral.

00:49:04.000 Those were like things I was like, hey, whoa, man, you know, and then he backed away and was like, well, I think I should do it.

00:49:09.000 But crimes?

00:49:11.000 Spare me.

00:49:12.000 The quid pro quo with Ukraine? 0.74

00:49:14.000 Let's play a game.

00:49:15.000 Should Joe Biden be arrested for his provable crimes?

00:49:19.000 Okay, well, I want to be sincere and get the nuance and the context correct, so I should say there should be an investigation into Joe Biden based on probable cause available to the public.

00:49:32.000 Notably, that I believe it was the Council on Foreign Relations meeting, he was speaking publicly and stated that he engaged in a quid pro quo with Ukraine.

00:49:41.000 Something that we were told was illegal.

00:49:43.000 So considering he admitted that he said to the president of Ukraine, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, okay, right there, impeached and or charged criminally.

00:49:54.000 And that extends way to a whole bunch of other issues like Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma.

00:50:00.000 Is this Absolute malfeasance where it wasn't just a quid pro quo.

00:50:05.000 It was him protecting his son's business interests.

00:50:07.000 But then, of course, you know, his son and he shared emails and a phone number.

00:50:11.000 And Joe Biden told the American people that he didn't know anything about his son's business dealings.

00:50:15.000 And then we learned that actually there's a bunch of photos of him with his son's business partners.

00:50:19.000 And they actually do know each other.

00:50:21.000 And that Hunter Biden was flown on Air Force Two to China to negotiate a private equity deal.

00:50:25.000 Oh boy, the list goes on.

00:50:27.000 All of these things that have not yet been investigated that we need to know about.

00:50:31.000 And then, the best part, Joe Biden engages in a quid pro quo with Ukraine, his son on the board of Burisma, and he says you gotta fire the prosecutor.

00:50:42.000 And now as president, he is giving them billions of dollars.

00:50:47.000 Doesn't that sound a little weird to anybody?

00:50:49.000 So if I was standing there and I was like, we got an arrest of a sitting president, and someone said, what crimes did he commit?

00:50:54.000 I'd be like, oh boy.

00:50:56.000 Let me line them up for you.

00:50:58.000 The crimes, I mean, everyone's got to read the laptop from hell, because that will shock

00:51:02.000 you with the abundance of criminality that's thoroughly documented there.

00:51:06.000 Of course, you know, he's never been tried and convicted.

00:51:09.000 Everyone's innocent until proven guilty.

00:51:10.000 But there's, as you say, massive, massive evidence of wrongdoing at a very huge scale.

00:51:17.000 It's a huge national security problem.

00:51:18.000 And this is what we really need to look at.

00:51:21.000 Hunter Biden, and by extension his whole family, the Biden family, kind of acts as a criminal conglomerate in terms of receiving funds collectively.

00:51:31.000 He received millions of dollars from a high-level CCP-related alleged asset.

00:51:38.000 Wasn't it like five million dollars?

00:51:40.000 I don't remember the exact amount, but it was millions.

00:51:43.000 That doesn't happen without payback.

00:51:47.000 I believe it was a forgivable loan.

00:51:51.000 Right, there you go.

00:51:52.000 I could be wrong, I could be wrong.

00:51:53.000 Like a donation.

00:51:55.000 But look at our country.

00:51:56.000 Again, look backwards.

00:51:58.000 Reason backwards.

00:51:59.000 Our borders are open.

00:52:01.000 Our children are being propagandized.

00:52:03.000 Our cultural norms and history is being degraded.

00:52:11.000 The two groups, as you were saying, Ian, are being set against each other.

00:52:15.000 Social media is de-platforming critics of this dominant narrative that is destroying the country.

00:52:21.000 You know, images like worship is targeted.

00:52:24.000 People are being arrested for holding, you know, for convening their churches and synagogues.

00:52:29.000 So the CCP has a huge role in all of this, and this is how they crush societies.

00:52:35.000 This is in their playbook.

00:52:37.000 I think it's a vast, you know, it is treason to accept money to aid and abet our enemies.

00:52:45.000 And I also read the description of what impeachment is, because that's what we do at Daily Cloud.

00:52:50.000 And it takes a very low bar for impeachment.

00:52:52.000 High crimes and misdemeanors is a pretty low bar.

00:52:54.000 So in every way, this is...

00:52:57.000 You know, the debt that the Bidens have to China is devastating our country. 0.94

00:53:03.000 And it is much more serious than the kinds of things that people have raised in the past about this guy who's been... Sorry, the president who, you know, even though I didn't like him, didn't vote for him, had the FBI break into his house.

00:53:19.000 I am glad you brought up the CCP.

00:53:21.000 I think a lot about it.

00:53:22.000 I don't like a boogeyman.

00:53:23.000 I don't like creating the archenemy that if we destroy them, we will win and everything will be okay.

00:53:27.000 That's not how it works.

00:53:28.000 But they are basically provoking an extension of the opium wars.

00:53:32.000 It's been going on for 120 years, and now they're running fentanyl through Mexico up into the country, giving it back to the liberal economic order, what we did to them in the 1890s.

00:53:41.000 We annihilated their populace with opium.

00:53:44.000 Ian, it's the liberal international economy.

00:53:46.000 The lie!

00:53:47.000 The liberal international economy.

00:53:49.000 We're headed towards a new international economy.

00:53:52.000 The NYE.

00:53:54.000 And it's going to be either, I don't know, I mean, it's kind of up to us how it happens.

00:53:58.000 Are you familiar with Thucydides' Trap?

00:54:00.000 No.

00:54:01.000 It's a concept that we talk about here at Nauseam, where whenever a dominant economic power is about to be displaced by a rising economic power, typically, I shouldn't say whenever, typically war breaks out.

00:54:14.000 Oh, really?

00:54:14.000 So I think it was like within the past 500 years there have been 16 instances where something like this has happened and 12 of them resulted in major war.

00:54:22.000 Wow.

00:54:23.000 So the argument is that there are powerful interests in the United States trying to prevent war between the U.S.

00:54:27.000 and China by crippling the United States and watching it collapse before a war can break out.

00:54:33.000 So the idea is if two powers reach a similar level and they start competing for who's going to dominate, they eventually just destabilize them.

00:54:40.000 But if the dominant power is being hacked away at the base and then it just falls over, no war.

00:54:46.000 And told, look at Russia.

00:54:48.000 Russia's bad. 1.00

00:54:48.000 They're really bad. 1.00

00:54:49.000 Let's pay more attention to that.

00:54:51.000 That Russia propaganda was freakish in 2015 when it started.

00:54:54.000 Was?

00:54:54.000 Is?

00:54:55.000 That's such a good example of How the people we know, and I'm going to say me too, got sucked into untruths.

00:55:04.000 I believed that Trump was a Russian asset because I read the New York Times and I watched CNN.

00:55:10.000 I believed it.

00:55:10.000 I believed that he was in bed with the Russians in a way that was traitorous to our country.

00:55:16.000 And now I know that all of that was nonsense, that the dossier was nonsense. 0.55

00:55:20.000 But I didn't know that.

00:55:20.000 When did you start?

00:55:22.000 Because there are people who have the opportunity to look into this and choose not to because they're still part of, they still believe in the narrative so strongly.

00:55:28.000 What changed for you?

00:55:29.000 Well honestly I'm always trying to be open-minded and I didn't think that I was self-selecting out information that would have cut against it but when you're reading the New York Times and watching CNN there's such a repetition of The Washington Times is a cult paper.

00:55:47.000 The Epoch Times is run by cult members.

00:55:50.000 You know, they just dismiss every conservative or independent or libertarian outlet.

00:55:55.000 And so I was lucky.

00:55:57.000 I married a libertarian.

00:55:58.000 Libertarianism saves lives!

00:56:02.000 No, but I got exposed to where the lies were and other sources of information.

00:56:08.000 And then I met a lot of people producing What was the moment that it changed?

00:56:12.000 That is a good question.

00:56:12.000 news sources. They're very credible journalists. I think, I think libertarians and conservatives

00:56:17.000 right now are doing, and you guys, people like you, are doing some of the only credible journalism

00:56:21.000 remaining in America. But I guess that's just to say I thoroughly believed the lie that Trump

00:56:26.000 was a Russian asset. What was the moment that it changed?

00:56:29.000 That is a good question. Well, I think that the legacy media had to recently, like a few

00:56:37.000 months ago, step back.

00:56:40.000 I don't remember the evidence that emerged, but they stepped back and said, oh, sorry, that was a lie.

00:56:43.000 And the dossier wasn't true either.

00:56:46.000 Whoopsie.

00:56:47.000 Yeah.

00:56:48.000 But a lot of people were entrenched in it for years.

00:56:50.000 And it's crazy that they still won't let it go.

00:56:52.000 They still think so.

00:56:54.000 I think it's actually quite simple.

00:56:57.000 There's a bureaucratic state.

00:56:59.000 Civil servants who are appointed, who are not elected, have an agenda.

00:57:02.000 They don't care who the president is. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Donald Trump is an arrogant blowhard. 0.99

00:57:06.000 So when he got elected, he just said, excuse me, no, and would not listen to what they insisted of him. 0.99

00:57:15.000 And so they had to get him out of the way.

00:57:17.000 That's it.

00:57:17.000 I mean, you look at his administration, so dramatically different from the previous administrations.

00:57:22.000 In my lifetime, I am 36, I've seen not nearly as much as most people, I think, well I shouldn't say most because I don't know what the demographics are, but many people in this country who are older than me, I think the majority of the country are older than me.

00:57:33.000 Maybe not, I don't know.

00:57:34.000 But anyway, my point is, We get Obama, promising hope and change, and he blows up kids.

00:57:39.000 Great.

00:57:39.000 Then you get Donald Trump.

00:57:41.000 Yeah, he does bad stuff.

00:57:42.000 Missile strike in Syria, drone strikes, but no new wars, pulling our troops out of the Middle East, pulling our troops out of Syria, trying to bring peace to the Middle East with the Abraham Accords, negotiating the deal in, I think it was, was it Kosovo, Serbia or something like that?

00:57:55.000 Then you had Kim Jong-un in North Korea.

00:57:57.000 He crossed into the DMZ with no security and a tremendous sign of peace and leadership.

00:58:02.000 I mean, it was shocking to me that he did that.

00:58:04.000 They could have just snatched him up and taken the U.S. 0.80

00:58:06.000 President.

00:58:07.000 They could have done a lot of stuff.

00:58:08.000 They could have gripped his hand and held it tight and said, you're going to give us a million dollars, aren't you?

00:58:11.000 Or any nonsense like that.

00:58:13.000 They just shook his hand and then he left.

00:58:14.000 It was so dramatically different, his foreign policy, than I'd seen in such a long time that it was very clearly in the way of the war machine and the establishment politics of this country.

00:58:23.000 Well, I think you're completely right.

00:58:26.000 And just each one of those, it's so embarrassing, but each one of those huge achievements, which I really didn't credit till pretty recently, was dismissed and derided by the legacy media.

00:58:36.000 I have to stress this every opportunity I get.

00:58:40.000 When Donald Trump went to the DMZ, the Demilitarized Zone in the Koreas, and he met with Kim Jong-un, The media said he was ponying up to dictators, and it was bad, and he was causing problems.

00:58:52.000 The President of the United States, with no security detail, entered an enemy nation.

00:58:58.000 The war with North Korea is still, there's still a war.

00:59:02.000 The war did not end. 0.83

00:59:03.000 And Donald Trump crossed into North Korea, shook hands with Kim Jong-un, smiled and waved for photos, and then walked back.

00:59:11.000 And I was just watching this shocked, like, Whoa, dude.

00:59:15.000 I mean, this is this, this oafish, blowhard reality TV guy just risked his life in a sign of peace.

00:59:24.000 And the media just crapped all over him for it.

00:59:26.000 And I was just like, dude.

00:59:28.000 Or how about this one?

00:59:29.000 We lefties really hated the war in Afghanistan.

00:59:33.000 We really hated all those wars.

00:59:35.000 That was the war machine.

00:59:37.000 Embarrassing to acknowledge.

00:59:39.000 President Trump actually brought our men and women home.

00:59:42.000 You know, he scaled down the war machine.

00:59:45.000 No one gave him credit for that on our side of it.

00:59:48.000 I guess what I would say for the record, though, is as a survivor of sexual assault, The way he spoke about women was catastrophic, and I could not bring myself to vote for someone who was so dismissive about sexual abuse.

01:00:00.000 It's that simple.

01:00:01.000 Maybe that was short-sighted of me, but I kind of shouldn't have to.

01:00:04.000 He should have had advisors saying, look, just apologize, talk about it compassionately, say you've learned whatever, say you will try harder in the future to not be you know, horribly abusive or describe women in horribly

01:00:16.000 abusive ways, or describe sexual assault. This is when he said, this is when he was like,

01:00:21.000 when you're famous, they let you, you know, yeah, but even his apology, apology afterwards

01:00:26.000 was very, very dismissive. And I think that was a very painful moment for, you know, the 33%

01:00:31.000 of women who've been sexually abused before they were 18 and the 17% of men. And and it was so 0.99

01:00:36.000 hard for me personally to get over that.

01:00:39.000 This is what I think a lot of the really diehard Trump supporters need to pay attention to.

01:00:43.000 I hear Trump and I laugh.

01:00:44.000 I do appreciate him being strong and aggressive.

01:00:45.000 They'll say, like, don't care.

01:00:46.000 It's funny.

01:00:47.000 It's awesome.

01:00:48.000 I'm like, I can appreciate you think it's funny.

01:00:49.000 That's no problem.

01:00:50.000 Like I hear Trump and I laugh.

01:00:52.000 I do appreciate him being strong and aggressive.

01:00:55.000 I'm just trying to convey when I got into a car, I was going to Glenn Beck's studio

01:01:00.000 and the driver was a Mexican immigrant who came to America and became a citizen.

01:01:05.000 And he said, yeah, man, I love Trump.

01:01:07.000 I just wish you would stop saying that stuff.

01:01:09.000 And I'm like, Trump does get a lot of people by being aggressive, but he could make some moves that would retain that while also being more appealing to run-of-the-mill people who don't like that abrasive language.

01:01:21.000 I remember one of the criticisms he got all the time was that he wasn't presidential enough.

01:01:24.000 He wasn't dignified enough.

01:01:26.000 And while that is a little bit different from what the comments you're pointing out, I do think in some ways some Trump supporters doubled down.

01:01:33.000 They like that he has these rough edges and they like that he doesn't sound the way Obama sounded and he doesn't sound the way career politician Biden sounds or sounded.

01:01:43.000 Love and hate, man.

01:01:44.000 I can agree that like his language around certain topics could be better.

01:01:50.000 I would not like to be the advisor to try and corral Trump into changing his speech patterns, but I mean, I think Republican or conservative voters are willing to embrace flaws or at least Pick and choose flaws differently.

01:02:07.000 I think some of the hang up with a lot of, especially young liberals that I know, is that it has to be absolute.

01:02:12.000 Like, there cannot be any sins.

01:02:14.000 And that's ultimately completely unreasonable.

01:02:17.000 Well, who among you has no sin, right?

01:02:20.000 Who are they going to find from their side of the aisle who has no sin to run for office? 0.98

01:02:24.000 I guess they don't have to worry about themselves.

01:02:25.000 Well, they have to be hidden enough.

01:02:26.000 We have to not let them surface.

01:02:28.000 I think the left has a tendency to just scream, lie to me, please.

01:02:34.000 But what I mean by that is, they would prefer Hillary Clinton, who sounds correct. 0.71

01:02:39.000 I mean, well, let's be real.

01:02:40.000 They didn't want Hillary Clinton either. 0.99

01:02:41.000 Everybody kind of groaned.

01:02:42.000 But they would prefer Barack Obama's charming, big ol' smile, lying to your face, and blown up kids, if it made you feel good.

01:02:49.000 He says, plug your ears, kids.

01:02:51.000 Just plug your ears.

01:02:52.000 Everything's fine. 0.95

01:02:53.000 Blow them up. 0.83

01:02:55.000 Whereas Donald Trump is the opposite.

01:02:57.000 I loved it.

01:02:57.000 One of the greatest moments in American presidential history was when he's outside the White House in the Rose Garden or whatever, and they ask him about Saudi Arabia and he goes, we're gonna sell a bunch of weapons to Saudi Arabia!

01:03:08.000 It's gonna be great for our economy!

01:03:10.000 And then all the anti-war left was like...

01:03:12.000 He just said it.

01:03:14.000 He just completely admitted what they've never admitted, that we're just selling weapons to make money to bolster our economy.

01:03:20.000 And Trump just said it.

01:03:21.000 And I was laughing.

01:03:22.000 The Intercept called him the most honest and dishonest president of our lifetime, or of the United States or whatever. 0.99

01:03:28.000 And I was just like, the funny thing is Trump lies about things that are dumb, like his ego stuff. 0.99

01:03:34.000 Like, no, I didn't say that. 0.99

01:03:35.000 You can't say that about me.

01:03:36.000 But then he just openly admits all this crazy stuff.

01:03:38.000 Like, We're gonna keep the troops in Syria for the oil. 0.90

01:03:40.000 We like the oil, folks, right?

01:03:41.000 The oil's good.

01:03:42.000 It's like, what?

01:03:45.000 But in retrospect, I mean, with all of those flaws, I mean, it was it was peace and prosperity.

01:03:50.000 Did you vote for him in 2020?

01:03:51.000 No.

01:03:54.000 I did.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, but you know, the administration I voted for colluded to silence me with.

01:04:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:01.000 So it didn't work out that well.

01:04:02.000 Let's let's let's talk about media manipulation and lies.

01:04:04.000 Because, you know, I want to say I'm shocked by the story, but I'm not shocked.

01:04:09.000 I was.

01:04:11.000 I mean, I was kind of shocked.

01:04:12.000 Okay.

01:04:12.000 The New York Post.

01:04:14.000 Biden White House claims U.S.

01:04:15.000 has zero inflation despite annual rate remaining at 8.5.

01:04:20.000 Joe Biden actually said inflation last month, 0%.

01:04:25.000 And I was like, what?

01:04:26.000 Inflation's at 8.5.

01:04:27.000 It's insane.

01:04:28.000 It's really, really bad.

01:04:30.000 Anyone who's going, you know, trying to figure out their finances right now is probably freaking out about this.

01:04:35.000 Totally.

01:04:36.000 You know what's scary?

01:04:37.000 People are going to believe this, and you know what this is?

01:04:40.000 The definition of a recession, the colloquial one, is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth.

01:04:47.000 Bill Clinton said it in, you know, 2001 or whatever, in that viral video from C-SPAN people are posting, and the UK considers it that, and all of a sudden they're like, no, actually that's not the definition of a recession, so we're changing it.

01:04:59.000 So they're saying the technical definition is actually quite different, so now we're not going to use that.

01:05:03.000 This is what they're doing here.

01:05:05.000 Technically, Joe Biden is correct.

01:05:07.000 Axios reports inflation drops to zero in July due to falling gas prices.

01:05:14.000 Wow.

01:05:14.000 And what?

01:05:15.000 That's not true.

01:05:16.000 It's 8.5%.

01:05:17.000 Oh my gosh.

01:05:18.000 I don't think you understand.

01:05:20.000 Do you ever play games with little kids and they make up the rules and then we start winning, they change the rules?

01:05:24.000 Yes.

01:05:24.000 Right.

01:05:25.000 So what they're saying now is month to month inflation was zero.

01:05:29.000 Oh my gosh.

01:05:30.000 Right.

01:05:31.000 Inflation is calculated on a yearly basis, and they decided to change the way they calculate it so they can report, and Biden can lie and tell you there's no inflation.

01:05:39.000 And every headline can say, no inflation, zero inflation under Biden, and they leave out all the details.

01:05:44.000 Because they know you're scrolling, you're not actually reading the article.

01:05:48.000 The only thing they need you to get to quote is the headline.

01:05:51.000 Educate me here, 8.5%, does that mean every year there's going to be an 8.5% increase?

01:05:56.000 From this time last year to this month.

01:05:58.000 It has increased by 8.5%?

01:05:59.000 Yes.

01:06:00.000 And he's saying last month it was 8.5%, this month it's still 8.5%, so there's zero?

01:06:04.000 So it's zero, right.

01:06:04.000 Exactly.

01:06:05.000 Unbelievable.

01:06:06.000 But it went up and then back down.

01:06:08.000 So they're saying it didn't.

01:06:09.000 It's so amazing.

01:06:10.000 But then the other issue is that it's still 8.5%.

01:06:13.000 But food cost is still way up.

01:06:15.000 Gas is still way up.

01:06:16.000 All of these things are way up.

01:06:18.000 But gas went down a little bit.

01:06:19.000 So the funny thing is, you also got to understand what it means for there to be inflation, for there to be no inflation month to month.

01:06:26.000 If gas is skyrocketing, and then it goes up from $2 to $5, and then it drops down to $4.50, they will say inflation is at zero, even though it's massively up.

01:06:42.000 Because it went down just a little bit, just a teeny little bit.

01:06:45.000 But this administration plays with numbers all the time.

01:06:49.000 I'm sorry, this administration plays with numbers all the time and they really condescend to the American people because they count on us to be innumerate or not to know how to read a chart, not to notice.

01:06:59.000 I think that's why legacy media is kind of losing hemorrhaging viewers and alternative media And that's why censorship is so important, because they have to try and stop that.

01:07:09.000 But I do have to wonder, man, does it really matter?

01:07:12.000 I think the Democrats maybe, you know, I'm imagining they're all like sitting around the consultants and like the DNC or whatever, and they're like, you know, we've tried really hard to convince half this country. 1.00

01:07:21.000 Why don't we just convince the stupid people? 0.99

01:07:23.000 That's so much easier, and you don't need to spend as much money. 1.00

01:07:27.000 So now they're doing things that to us, it's like brazen.

01:07:31.000 Inflation is at zero?

01:07:32.000 What are you talking about?

01:07:33.000 It's calculated on a yearly basis.

01:07:35.000 How many people right now are going, inflation is zero?

01:07:37.000 Actually, inflation is zero.

01:07:38.000 You're wrong.

01:07:39.000 Here's Axios.

01:07:40.000 They said it's zero.

01:07:41.000 And you're like, how do you even negotiate or argue or compromise with that?

01:07:47.000 I feel like it's just a desperate move, right?

01:07:49.000 We're getting so close to midterm elections that they're like, we're not going to win everybody.

01:07:53.000 So we've just got to get a couple here to try and try and ease our way into a victory.

01:07:57.000 I said November was going to be fun.

01:08:00.000 October is going to be fun.

01:08:02.000 It's going to be crazy.

01:08:03.000 Like, okay, so we've been swatted now nine times since January.

01:08:08.000 And plus we've had other security issues.

01:08:11.000 This group has been swatted?

01:08:13.000 Nine times?

01:08:14.000 I'm sorry, they were not telling you that before you came on the show?

01:08:17.000 I thought it was like a metaphor, a figure of speech.

01:08:20.000 No, no, no, yeah, yeah.

01:08:21.000 So after the first like I think two or three times, it was no longer like multi-jurisdictional armed groups coming to the house.

01:08:29.000 The first time it happened it was bad, like guns drawn.

01:08:31.000 What had you done?

01:08:33.000 We had Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show.

01:08:34.000 It's a media company.

01:08:35.000 They build walls around Paramount because people obsess with media.

01:08:39.000 It's too accessible.

01:08:40.000 So, we've had all of those issues and I'm like, yo guys, if you thought it was crazy, wait until October.

01:08:49.000 Right before... Isn't it quite traumatic to be swatted one time, let alone multiple times?

01:08:54.000 The first time, you know, they actually came, guns drawn, and... Well, Tim was on air.

01:09:00.000 We were on air, and the cops, like, come to the door, and I'm like, what is going on?

01:09:03.000 And they're like, they're like, come out.

01:09:04.000 I'm like, I'm not coming out.

01:09:05.000 What are you doing in my house?

01:09:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:09:06.000 Good lord.

01:09:07.000 But after that, they would come and do a sweep and then apologize.

01:09:11.000 And now... They're harassing you.

01:09:13.000 Well, not the police.

01:09:14.000 Right.

01:09:15.000 The police are instructed to come for every call.

01:09:18.000 I see.

01:09:18.000 So people are threatening you and they come to protect you.

01:09:21.000 People call the police and then make a fake thing like, I am, you know, I am a crazy person.

01:09:26.000 Someone's harassing you.

01:09:26.000 Gotcha.

01:09:27.000 And so the cops are like, okay, okay.

01:09:28.000 Wasn't there just a Twitch streamer who got shot during, the streamer was swatted and they got shot during that?

01:09:34.000 Shot?

01:09:34.000 I don't know about that.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, hold on, I'll look it up.

01:09:36.000 No, there was two guys who were fighting online on Call of Duty, and then one guy said, here's my address, do something, and it was a fake address.

01:09:46.000 So the guy swatted the address, and when the cops showed up, the resident had no idea what was going on, opened his door, walked out with his gun, and the cops shot and killed him.

01:09:53.000 Yeah.

01:09:54.000 So anyway, I don't want to harp on too much of that stuff.

01:09:57.000 My point is just that as we head into October and November with the midterms coming up, you are going to see the craziest balls-to-the-wall shenanigans all over the country.

01:10:09.000 It's true.

01:10:09.000 October surprises. If you think there's just gonna be one, no, no, you're wrong. It's gonna be just

01:10:14.000 everywhere. It's like, photos are gonna come out like you're mentioning weird photos. There's like,

01:10:19.000 they're claiming now that Alex Jones sent nudes to of his wife to Roger Stone or something like

01:10:24.000 that. Like all of the weirdest things you can ever imagine.

01:10:28.000 They're going to throw everything at the wall and hope it's I'm waiting. I'm looking at the

01:10:31.000 deep fix. Get ready for deep fix. I think that did you see that Biden video where his

01:10:35.000 eyes are open the whole time and they're pure dark black circles look like a deep fake.

01:10:40.000 It looked like a deepfake.

01:10:41.000 I couldn't tell, but it didn't look real.

01:10:43.000 It didn't blank.

01:10:44.000 He talked with a real low voice.

01:10:46.000 It was really weird.

01:10:47.000 I think they just gave him operas.

01:10:49.000 The world of deepfakes is now.

01:10:51.000 Be prepared.

01:10:52.000 Do not believe what you see at face value unless it's coming at you, charging you, and it's a bear.

01:10:56.000 I think they just gave Joe Biden a bunch of operas.

01:11:00.000 I'm having a hard time believing.

01:11:01.000 He's like, listen here!

01:11:03.000 To the point where it's not that I disbelieve what I see, I just don't believe it.

01:11:07.000 And that could be very dangerous if it's an emergency.

01:11:09.000 Like, the boy has cried wolf many times.

01:11:11.000 And now you're here, Naomi.

01:11:13.000 Wolf.

01:11:14.000 Hello, welcome.

01:11:15.000 Do you have faith in the Republic?

01:11:18.000 Generally?

01:11:18.000 In the American Republic, do you have faith of its survival?

01:11:21.000 God, that's such a difficult question.

01:11:22.000 You really want the answer?

01:11:24.000 Yeah.

01:11:25.000 I think that we are at serious risk of devolving into civil war.

01:11:30.000 Hey, I agree.

01:11:32.000 You stole Tim's line.

01:11:33.000 I thought I was gonna steal Tim's slogan.

01:11:35.000 They say in the chat, they're like, every time Tim says Civil War drink, what steps would you advise?

01:11:39.000 We talk about it kind of a lot.

01:11:40.000 Oh, forgive me if I'm echoing you and I did not realize.

01:11:42.000 No, we agree.

01:11:43.000 Look how much you guys have in common.

01:11:45.000 To advise a circumvention of that, what would you, what are some gifts you would impart?

01:11:50.000 These are my gifts.

01:11:53.000 Social media and digital platforms, you know, can be very empowering, but they're also a way to surveil and manage human communications, as we've discussed.

01:12:03.000 We're messaged that the things people do together are like low-tech and second-rate compared to digital tools.

01:12:11.000 But in fact it's incredibly sophisticated, a room full of people talking to each other, or an auditorium full of people with a speaker talking to a giant group, or a protest, or a march with a bunch of human beings talking and sharing, or a movement where people are singing and marching and praying together.

01:12:29.000 So I would say to everyone the best thing you can do is Get off your screens and get into rooms with other humans and have fellowship with them and feed them and be fed by them and fall in love with them and, you know, disclose your heart to them because it's only those revolutions that really are peaceful and survive.

01:12:48.000 And it's also a very sophisticated way to communicate information because it's hard to hack the human brain yet.

01:12:54.000 It's hard to hack a room where people are having a cocktail party or a potluck or praying together or singing together.

01:13:01.000 and we've forgotten that we can gather. Like look at what happened in this country before digital technology.

01:13:10.000 You used to have whistle stops where people would talk to a thousand people at once,

01:13:14.000 or you know all the great movements, the women's movement, the labor movement, the civil rights movement, the

01:13:19.000 abolition movement.

01:13:20.000 These happen in person, in real life.

01:13:22.000 So my great blessing to all of you, even if it feels weird if you've been on screens your

01:13:27.000 whole life, is to leave the screens behind for a lot of time and fall in love with other

01:13:31.000 human beings.

01:13:32.000 We've got a project we're working on.

01:13:34.000 We're going to be opening up a physical location where we're going to have gaming.

01:13:39.000 So we'll have like a Magic the Gathering, D&D, we'll have card games, we'll have board

01:13:43.000 games, we'll have coffee probably, maybe sandwiches or something like that.

01:13:47.000 We'll have skating stuff as well.

01:13:49.000 But the plan is, with this space, Saturday mornings we're going to do Saturday morning

01:13:53.000 cartoons.

01:13:54.000 Where the idea is...

01:13:56.000 You don't really have Saturday morning cartoons anymore because everything's VOD on demand digital.

01:13:59.000 But when I was younger, we'd wake up on Saturday and watch the cartoons.

01:14:02.000 So we can have families come.

01:14:04.000 You bring your kids to hang out and watch good family content that is approved by the families.

01:14:08.000 None of this weird stuff they're making for kids.

01:14:10.000 There will be like a breakfast buffet and parents will get to interact with each other.

01:14:15.000 And the idea that I was having was, there's a lot of people that don't go to church.

01:14:19.000 Church does provide something similar.

01:14:22.000 It provides community.

01:14:23.000 So what can we do to bring more people?

01:14:26.000 Hey, come hang out Saturday morning, something to do with the family.

01:14:29.000 We're going to have pancakes, we're going to have waffles, eggs, sausage, bacon, some vegan and vegetarian options, coffee, milk, orange juice.

01:14:37.000 The kids will watch cartoons, everybody will eat, we'll all learn from each other, meet each other, and we'll hang out.

01:14:41.000 That's what you got to do.

01:14:42.000 Beautiful.

01:14:43.000 I love it.

01:14:44.000 And when people actually encounter each other, they realize there's nothing to fear, you know, overwhelmingly, you know, people will meet who are think they're across a political divide, and they'll have a conversation, realize like, you're not a weirdo, you're not a monster, our kids are playing together.

01:14:58.000 It's I kind of like it when someone gets heated.

01:15:00.000 And then you still listen to them.

01:15:02.000 And you're still kind of even more bonded afterwards, right?

01:15:05.000 Because you chose to listen to them.

01:15:06.000 Yeah.

01:15:07.000 Like shut them down before they got too angry.

01:15:09.000 Isn't that gorgeous?

01:15:09.000 Yeah, I love it.

01:15:11.000 My best learning has come from talking to people I think I'm going to completely disagree with.

01:15:16.000 I don't know why people are so scared of it.

01:15:18.000 It's so exciting to hear what someone has to say who totally sees the world in an oppositional way to one's own thoughts.

01:15:25.000 Like, how exciting is that?

01:15:27.000 You learn so much.

01:15:28.000 Yeah, I used to chat roulette and I'd come up on people from China and talk to these Chinese people.

01:15:33.000 I don't know if they're behind the Iron Curtain.

01:15:34.000 Chat roulette, that's awesome.

01:15:35.000 Yeah, chat roulette.

01:15:35.000 You just hit like roulette and then you randomly roulette with another.

01:15:39.000 Sometimes it's like, you know, a little bit pornographic.

01:15:42.000 Sometimes it's someone in China.

01:15:43.000 No one go on there, that's a bad idea.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, I haven't been on chat roulette in a while, but great functionality.

01:15:47.000 And it was, I would like to hear from them now.

01:15:50.000 I want to know what they're experiencing from the Chinese point of view.

01:15:52.000 It's important that we...

01:15:53.000 They won't be able to tell you the truth if they're based in China, but you should stay in contact with them.

01:15:59.000 I should add to that beautiful scene of people having pancakes or having potluck or talking to each other.

01:16:04.000 We also need to know where our food is coming from.

01:16:06.000 My husband and I just bought a quarter of a cow from a local farmer.

01:16:11.000 Now we have to freeze her, but I expect leading up to November shortages in food, cyber attacks, power grid outages, all kinds of things to destabilize and scare people and we need to be able to defend our homes.

01:16:27.000 It's another reason to know your neighbors, right?

01:16:30.000 The internet community that you built yourself can be great but no one is going to come help you if, let's say, a tree falls on your house or, you know, you need something in the middle of the night, right?

01:16:40.000 You need to know and invest in the people who are physically around you Because ultimately they control or they influence the environment you're in and that is more important than the environment you build for yourself online because that is contrived.

01:16:52.000 Yes.

01:16:53.000 I would add to that there's so much nonsense about gender, right? 1.00

01:16:58.000 Which I did not intend.

01:17:00.000 I didn't do it.

01:17:01.000 Didn't mean it.

01:17:02.000 Okay, sure.

01:17:03.000 Right, I really didn't.

01:17:05.000 I was never that kind of feminist.

01:17:07.000 But we need men, you know, we need women, we need men, we need people of all genders, obviously, but when things fall apart, and I thoroughly expect institutions will fall apart, you know, grids will fall apart, there's gonna be chaos leading up to November and after, that's what they want, clearly.

01:17:24.000 We need men as well as women. 1.00

01:17:25.000 But you think in the next few months we're going to see this stuff, like food shortages, grids?

01:17:29.000 We're seeing them.

01:17:30.000 I predicted food shortages starting in probably January of this year, and it was a time of great abundance, and we hadn't had empty shelves, and now we have food shortages.

01:17:42.000 People are going to be cold.

01:17:45.000 They're planning on people being cold in Europe because the supply lines are... The fuel prices are through the roof.

01:17:51.000 I periodically will do shoutouts for safeandreadymeals.com.

01:17:55.000 That is not literally a shoutout, but I do want to mention it because I often bring up, I was mocked by many on the left for promoting emergency food supplies.

01:18:07.000 It's confusing to me.

01:18:07.000 Why?

01:18:08.000 Why would they not be like, cool, you want to be prepared?

01:18:10.000 Have a good time.

01:18:11.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:18:12.000 It's a right wing extremist thing to think about.

01:18:16.000 People think it's fear mongering and he's trying to make money off of scaring people.

01:18:20.000 But dude, he's a realist.

01:18:22.000 What is the downside?

01:18:23.000 It's like having a condom if you're sexually active.

01:18:26.000 Right?

01:18:26.000 Just have some food in your, in your, in your basement or whatever, and water.

01:18:30.000 But that's the crazy, I'm like, is a first aid kit like prepping?

01:18:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:33.000 Bro, it's like one thing of food.

01:18:34.000 It's like you put it in your closet.

01:18:35.000 There's a huge class thing here, right?

01:18:37.000 Like upper middle class people have first aid kits, so that's okay.

01:18:39.000 But once you get into freeze dried meals, you know, somehow people like us don't have freeze dried meals.

01:18:43.000 Hamburger helper, same thing.

01:18:45.000 Lentils.

01:18:46.000 Dried lentils, man.

01:18:47.000 Dried lentils are okay, right?

01:18:49.000 It's pretty good.

01:18:50.000 Ian makes a mean lentil stew.

01:18:52.000 I'm gonna do it. So come around the bread's gone. Have they come around like does the left?

01:18:57.000 Oh, you know see the no to pretty meals. They they like this guy

01:19:01.000 I knew like a friend of mine started making fun of me and he was like, oh look at this loser

01:19:05.000 Cuz he was like trying to earn points on the internet by bragging on me and I'm like, dude

01:19:08.000 My whole thing is like why would you need emergency food?

01:19:13.000 Because there was a flood recently that was really bad and it shut the roads down and people had trouble getting food and it's not perishable.

01:19:19.000 So if your fridge goes out or whatever, you have a set amount of food that'll last you two weeks or whatever.

01:19:24.000 Same as you'd have a first aid kit or a jug of water.

01:19:27.000 But they think it's just, it's anti-tribal.

01:19:30.000 It's outside of their tribe.

01:19:32.000 So anyone, but look, I literally don't care, man.

01:19:35.000 You're gonna have the food.

01:19:37.000 I got chickens! 1.00

01:19:39.000 Yeah, I saw.

01:19:40.000 They're awesome.

01:19:40.000 And those chickens make food for me.

01:19:42.000 Beautiful.

01:19:43.000 Yeah, they eat bugs.

01:19:44.000 They eat feed, too, but, you know, if we wanted to, we could do the bug thing.

01:19:47.000 What you do is you put wood down, and then every morning you move the wood, and the bugs all run out, and the chickens eat it.

01:19:50.000 But look at what we were taught to mock, right?

01:19:53.000 I'm looking back at 30 years of liberal mockery that I internalized.

01:19:57.000 You mock survival.

01:19:58.000 You mock masculinity.

01:19:59.000 You mock, you know, the idea that someone's a woman and a mother, not to criticize any other genders or sexualities.

01:20:07.000 You mock religion, you mock tradition, you mock history.

01:20:12.000 And who wants that?

01:20:13.000 Our adversaries want that. 0.99

01:20:15.000 And now I look at their influencers that our adversaries send to skew people like your friend and to say to them, hey, it's really stupid that your friend has ready meals. 0.98

01:20:28.000 Well, whom does that serve? 0.98

01:20:29.000 People want to drive us into the ground and have us hungry and disempowered.

01:20:34.000 It serves them.

01:20:34.000 Because when everything does fall apart, these people are going to rush to the city center, get on their knees and say, save us.

01:20:41.000 Exactly.

01:20:42.000 Oh, the quarantine camp has food?

01:20:43.000 Come on in.

01:20:44.000 I had a vision last night of, I was walking like on horseback, riding by people that had been devastated by starvation, just looking at me as I'm riding by.

01:20:52.000 Like you see in the movie where the noble goes through the village that's been torched and they're just like looking at the people and the people don't even have the energy to grab at the horse.

01:20:59.000 They're just like laying there.

01:21:00.000 And the horror of the person that's never seen it face to face, that just struck me like lightning last night.

01:21:06.000 It was terrifying.

01:21:07.000 I feel like there's a segment of culture that tells you and I don't want to be too mean to the liberals but I do think it's sort of a more left leaning perspective that says like you should live for the now and you should be self-indulgent and you should think about this whereas a lot of conservative people who are brought up in more conservative homes are taught like you should plan for the future and that involves everything from saving money like Tithing to your church is something that a lot of conservative parents teach their children, but also, like, think about if you want to have kids in the future and how that will affect you.

01:21:36.000 Whereas there's a different segment of culture that is like, it's all, it doesn't matter.

01:21:40.000 You just have to do what feels good in the moment.

01:21:42.000 We have to be self-indulgent.

01:21:43.000 We have to think in terms of immediate pleasure and not in long-term happiness.

01:21:49.000 And that's, I think, the same segment that says, like, why would you buy meals to be prepared?

01:21:53.000 Like, being prepared is not an immediate thing.

01:21:56.000 Being prepared is something forward-thinking.

01:21:58.000 It's that rental society.

01:21:59.000 People are like, I don't want to get locked into an area, so I'm going to keep renting.

01:22:02.000 I don't want to commit to a community that I would have to invest in and get to know my neighbors.

01:22:08.000 I want to be able to be transient and have the idea that I'm always free because I can pick up and move at any time, but ultimately I'm detached and I'm lonely.

01:22:16.000 Right, it is a sort of freedom to have all your music digitally on Spotify.

01:22:21.000 You don't have to carry around your CDs, which are 50 pounds.

01:22:23.000 But if the power goes out, you had all that rental that's not there.

01:22:28.000 Well, I mean, if the power goes out, you can't play CDs either.

01:22:31.000 And Spotify's gonna take out the songs that are not correct anymore, that have words we're not supposed to say.

01:22:36.000 And crank vinyl?

01:22:37.000 Yeah.

01:22:38.000 There you go.

01:22:38.000 That's forever.

01:22:39.000 I got some vinyl.

01:22:41.000 I have like 15.

01:22:42.000 Some good classic rock.

01:22:44.000 Some good Smashing Pumpkins.

01:22:44.000 I think an element of what you were saying as well is we on the left are trained to trust the government and not give it a message of self-reliance.

01:22:53.000 I'm sorry about that.

01:22:54.000 That's too sad.

01:22:54.000 I don't like that.

01:22:55.000 It's really catastrophic.

01:22:56.000 I know.

01:22:56.000 I don't know how we got sucked into that.

01:22:58.000 But why?

01:22:59.000 Punk rock, man.

01:23:00.000 I know.

01:23:01.000 When I grew up, it was like, don't trust the media.

01:23:02.000 I was like, you guys.

01:23:03.000 I know.

01:23:04.000 Now it's really funny, you know, so I when I was younger, I listened to The Offspring.

01:23:07.000 They're like my favorite band.

01:23:09.000 So I'm a little kid.

01:23:11.000 My mom played folk stuff and Three Dog Night, whatever, and it's cool.

01:23:14.000 Then all the kids in the neighborhood were listening to rap and hip hop.

01:23:16.000 But then some other friends of mine were like, listen to The Offspring.

01:23:20.000 And then I was like, oh, cool, you know, it's pop punk.

01:23:22.000 It's not nearly the same.

01:23:25.000 But they're supposed to be a punk band and they kicked out their drummer because he didn't get vaccinated.

01:23:29.000 You're kidding me.

01:23:30.000 Yeah, they fired him after 14 years because he couldn't get it.

01:23:34.000 He had his doctor recommended against it over a risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome that they believe he had.

01:23:40.000 And so he was like, the doctor says no.

01:23:42.000 And they're like, you're out.

01:23:43.000 And they were like, look, you're not gonna be able to play these venues that have the mandates.

01:23:47.000 And it's just crazy to me, because I'm like... They didn't resist at all.

01:23:50.000 They didn't put up a fight at all.

01:23:53.000 And not even that, right?

01:23:54.000 If it were me, and I said, we're going to go to a venue, and I mean, I gotta be honest, if it were me, I'd be like, then I don't do the show.

01:24:02.000 And I'll tell each and every one of my fans, if he doesn't come, I don't come.

01:24:06.000 Because imagine if like, imagine it was the 50s, and this band was going to play a venue, and their drummer was a black guy, and they were like, we don't allow, you know, your drummer, he's black. 0.99

01:24:15.000 They'd be like, well, I guess we have to fire you.

01:24:16.000 No, I'd be like, dude, no way!

01:24:18.000 Then we don't go to your venue.

01:24:19.000 Exactly right.

01:24:20.000 But anyway, it's like, where's the anti-establishment punk rock stuff?

01:24:24.000 They're like, well, sorry, guy, you're fired.

01:24:26.000 Here's the best part.

01:24:27.000 One, they could have just said, we will not abandon you, dude.

01:24:31.000 We understand your medical issue.

01:24:33.000 The doctor is recommending you don't get it.

01:24:35.000 This puts us in a bind.

01:24:36.000 We want to play shows.

01:24:37.000 We're going to get another drummer to tour with us, but we're here, ready, and willing to work with you for all the other stuff.

01:24:41.000 We're not going to leave you behind.

01:24:44.000 They could also have rehired him once the mandates were removed from these venues.

01:24:47.000 They didn't do that.

01:24:48.000 They didn't do that either.

01:24:49.000 Unbelievable.

01:24:50.000 Yeah, so Pete Perata is his name.

01:24:52.000 He's been playing drums for us.

01:24:53.000 He's an amazing person.

01:24:55.000 I am a...

01:24:56.000 Oh, you hired him.

01:24:57.000 Well, he's doing a bunch of drums for a bunch of projects.

01:24:59.000 I absolutely, I'm like, dude, it would be an honor and a privilege.

01:25:03.000 Right.

01:25:03.000 I believe it.

01:25:03.000 Yeah.

01:25:04.000 So we just we just filmed a music video with him.

01:25:06.000 Yeah.

01:25:06.000 And it was he's just he's so good.

01:25:08.000 Majestic.

01:25:09.000 This is a tragic story.

01:25:10.000 I mean, how is it different from from Ella Fitzgerald?

01:25:14.000 How is it different from African-American artists who were not allowed to sing at Carnegie Hall?

01:25:18.000 It's exactly the same.

01:25:19.000 And I wanna stress this to people, because I know they're gonna be like, oh, you can get the vaccine.

01:25:23.000 His doctor said no.

01:25:25.000 You're saying like- But also, hello, my body, my choice.

01:25:28.000 I've believed in my body, my choice since I was 15.

01:25:30.000 It's nobody's business whether he gets it or not, right?

01:25:33.000 We have sovereign autonomy.

01:25:35.000 He doesn't have to justify it, he just doesn't have to get it.

01:25:38.000 But to even, you know, to go after any potential arguments they might have, if you are unable to, due to a medical condition, So you get fired from your job and barred entry?

01:25:53.000 Like, imagine if there was a business that was a venue and they said, no epileptics because we can't be responsible for you.

01:25:59.000 It's like, dude, that's not okay, man.

01:26:01.000 Like, we should be accommodating to people.

01:26:02.000 So, like, I agree with that.

01:26:04.000 That's a liberal position.

01:26:06.000 These people don't hold any of these values.

01:26:08.000 They're like, whatever the machine says, we don't want to fight back.

01:26:10.000 We don't want to be in the way.

01:26:12.000 Well, this was definitely one of the most shocking.

01:26:14.000 I did follow the money in the bodies of others and vast sums are going to, I don't know if it went to this band, but vast sums are going to influencers all the way down to college level.

01:26:24.000 I mean, this FOIA of the CDC shows that they're thanking the social media groups for enlisting college influencers in, you know, their goals of censorship and direction.

01:26:36.000 Salesmen for pharmaceutical companies?

01:26:38.000 Exactly.

01:26:39.000 And even to churches and synagogues and little social groups, I mean, tiny dance troupes in the Bronx, they got money to go along with COVID education, COVID norms, including this kind of messaging.

01:26:51.000 Did you see, we talked about this yesterday, there was a CNBC article that said it was like pharmaceutical, no, no, no, it was investment firms, Goldman Sachs, I think, We're saying, hey, curing diseases is like not a good long term revenue prospect.

01:27:07.000 I remember the left was very much like, we don't trust Big Pharma because they don't cure diseases, they treat symptoms so they can make more money and keep you as a subscriber.

01:27:16.000 And now they're outright just writing these articles.

01:27:18.000 And the left is like marching in lockstep along with Big Pharma.

01:27:22.000 Do you understand?

01:27:22.000 Because I don't understand this.

01:27:23.000 This is like pure hypnosis.

01:27:25.000 It's a cult.

01:27:27.000 And they're like, if you support Trump, you're in a cult, I'm like, bro.

01:27:31.000 No, I think you're in the cult.

01:27:32.000 Yeah, like the people who, Trump has his cult, you know, very diehard people, but like, where are they?

01:27:39.000 Are they on TV?

01:27:41.000 Are they in, like, where are they?

01:27:43.000 There's a handful of politicians I would say are diehard Trump, but for the most part, it's like, there's libertarians, there's disaffected liberals, and there's conservatives.

01:27:52.000 They don't agree on everything, but they just think you're in a cult, so it's like, not even about Trump.

01:27:57.000 Well, I'm meeting a lot of conservatives and libertarians who aren't particularly supportive of President Trump, but who are horrified and homeless former liberals like myself, who are simply horrified at what's coming over the hill from the Biden administration and these allies and, you know, other sort of aligned world economic forum puppets all over the world like Macron and Boris Johnson and so on.

01:28:20.000 And so I think it's kind of beyond left and right at this point.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, it's more economic for me.

01:28:25.000 The Federal Reserve terrifies me.

01:28:26.000 It bothers me.

01:28:27.000 It doesn't terrify me.

01:28:27.000 It just bothers me that we've passively allowed a private company to run our economy for 120 years and knock us into depression.

01:28:34.000 That is pretty scary.

01:28:34.000 It's insane.

01:28:35.000 It's moronic. 0.99

01:28:36.000 And we need to investigate the Federal Reserve. 0.99

01:28:39.000 We need to audit the Federal Reserve.

01:28:40.000 And if there's any malfeasance, repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

01:28:43.000 and take control of our monetary supply back.

01:28:45.000 We're going to need to do a currency recall.

01:28:46.000 It's the only way.

01:28:47.000 We're going to devastate America's experience as the global currency.

01:28:50.000 That's inevitable.

01:28:51.000 It's happening whether we want it to or not right now.

01:28:53.000 We've already seen Russia and China building bricks and their economy.

01:28:58.000 And it's either we do it ourselves, like ripping the band-aid off, digging open the scab, and getting in there with a bristle and some soap to cut out the black rot, or it's going to kill us by poisoning our blood system.

01:29:10.000 Ron Paul, maybe?

01:29:11.000 Yeah, it hurts.

01:29:12.000 You gotta return a sound currency.

01:29:14.000 But dig it open, man.

01:29:15.000 If you get black stuff under your skin, you gotta cut it open and dig it out. 1.00

01:29:19.000 You gotta take control of your body.

01:29:20.000 It's a very, very brutal way to describe it.

01:29:22.000 The United States is our body.

01:29:23.000 That's intense.

01:29:25.000 I had to do that once.

01:29:26.000 I was riding my bike down a hill, and I had a basketball in my arm, and the basketball came out of my arm, so I flailed and my foot got caught in my front spoke.

01:29:33.000 I went flying over, skidded across the gravel.

01:29:36.000 I had all this embedded gravel in my hand.

01:29:37.000 So I went home, got some nail clippers, and just cut all the skin open.

01:29:40.000 in. All right. And it healed like completely back to normal within like three days. It's

01:29:45.000 not just human body is crazy. We've also got the swift payment system. You got the I am

01:29:50.000 going to week. You've got international the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland.

01:29:55.000 It's a big it's not a worldwide cartel but it's it's a big one.

01:30:00.000 Australia, England, United States are three of the biggest.

01:30:03.000 Didn't they boot Russia off Swift? 0.80

01:30:04.000 Did they do that or no?

01:30:05.000 Yeah, but aren't you guys saying two different things?

01:30:07.000 You're saying go back to sound money, right?

01:30:10.000 And you're saying get rid of the dollar.

01:30:13.000 No, no, no, he's saying the Federal Reserve, because the Federal Reserve notes are there.

01:30:16.000 Yeah, we don't actually use dollars right now, we use Federal Reserve promissory notes.

01:30:20.000 They lend us, they lend the American government a promissory note, and then we, they say, okay, now you have to pay us back this note at interest, and that's why all your dollars actually say Federal Reserve note on it, because it's private property.

01:30:31.000 It's just, it's a really easy way to explain it to people.

01:30:34.000 There's five people sitting here right now.

01:30:37.000 Imagine we were all trading amongst each other something of value, but one person was allowed to make the money They wouldn't have to do any work They would just be like I'm gonna write myself like I'm gonna write right here that I have $5 and then Here you go.

01:30:50.000 Give me your stuff.

01:30:51.000 I think we could do is issue a currency recall So you say we have two years every human on earth can give us the will say the American government your dollars and will return you a US Crypto token or something on a blockchain and then there's gonna be a diminishing return.

01:31:05.000 You're gonna lose 20% of whatever you give us You're supportive of digital currency?

01:31:10.000 If it's on a blockchain and it's transparent, yes.

01:31:14.000 If it's just a central bank currency where they can just make as many as they want, no.

01:31:17.000 Naomi has such a stressed look on her face.

01:31:20.000 What's going to happen is we're going to have to keep creating new blockchains with new tokens as we expand.

01:31:26.000 The issue with digital currencies is it's all trackable.

01:31:29.000 Totally.

01:31:30.000 Everything you do forever will be publicly... It's a plus and a minus.

01:31:33.000 No, it's a minus, man.

01:31:34.000 I mean, cash is key, for sure.

01:31:36.000 Tracking every transaction a person has made.

01:31:38.000 I don't advocate busting up localities that want to do their local... You know, we could have valence shells of tokens and currencies.

01:31:45.000 Well, I'll say this.

01:31:47.000 You can, you know, have a Bitcoin and then have a physical representation that you can trade so no one knows which hands it exchanged.

01:31:56.000 The value is just stored in the account.

01:31:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:59.000 So if you have a cold wallet or something, and it's got one bitcoin on it, it doesn't actually move on the blockchain if you hand the physical drive to someone and they bounce it around.

01:32:08.000 So that's possible.

01:32:08.000 Yeah, if you could print something on just a daily printer, like on a piece of graphene paper that has a code in it, like a circuit in there that has the data of the token on it, that'd be cool.

01:32:20.000 Or I mean, to put it simply, people could open a crypto bank where they hold 100 Bitcoin, and then issue, this represents 1 Bitcoin, but they never do fractional reserve banking.

01:32:29.000 It's just, this is always redeemable for us for a Bitcoin, and then anyone can trade amongst themselves.

01:32:33.000 That's the way money originally was.

01:32:35.000 It was a silver certificate.

01:32:36.000 So when people turn their US dollars back in, they're going to lose a 20% of their money, but the wealthier you are, the more you're going to lose.

01:32:44.000 The more money you give back, the more of a percent is going to be taken out because we have to deflate our economy.

01:32:52.000 We can't live with this amount of worthless dollars in the system right now.

01:32:56.000 I am hearing that from a lot of people, including highly placed kind of hedge fund insiders, that the amount of money sloshing around that is imaginary is terribly dangerous.

01:33:06.000 I was looking at like the history of currency recalls, and they're not normally very peaceful for people.

01:33:11.000 No, I imagine.

01:33:12.000 They're kind of brutal.

01:33:12.000 So if we could do it, if we could do it.

01:33:15.000 Do you think we could?

01:33:16.000 Do you think we could do it peacefully?

01:33:17.000 Yeah.

01:33:19.000 Well, peaceful is kind of a general term, like what that means.

01:33:22.000 You might have to, you know, people might suffer, but we could do it without instigating a war.

01:33:26.000 All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats.

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01:33:39.000 It's gonna be about the government, and malfeasance, and issues that YouTube is not too happy with, but we'll leave it at that, and we'll read some of your superchats now!

01:33:50.000 Alright, let's see.

01:33:51.000 Moonphaser says, I'm worried they trick Trump into a war with China.

01:33:55.000 I hope they don't fool him into anything crazy if he becomes president in 2024.

01:33:59.000 I don't know who they is.

01:34:00.000 You mean like the establishment or the political class or whatever?

01:34:02.000 I don't know.

01:34:03.000 I don't think they'd be able to.

01:34:05.000 Trump is very much like America First, borders, no war, so we'll see.

01:34:12.000 All right.

01:34:12.000 Dalamar says, register to vote two months minimum before day.

01:34:16.000 Good point.

01:34:16.000 Day of.

01:34:17.000 ID, pen, paper, hand count, national, state, and local holiday, absentee for deployed military only, all over excuses or reasons, oh well, don't care.

01:34:26.000 Yeah, everybody should make sure right now you're registered to vote.

01:34:28.000 Right now.

01:34:30.000 And then call, what did you say, five of your friends?

01:34:33.000 And make sure they're registered to vote.

01:34:35.000 Tell all your buddies, like, hey everybody!

01:34:36.000 And that they're going to vote.

01:34:38.000 Right.

01:34:38.000 That's the other part.

01:34:38.000 Well, the best thing is, I'm like, when it comes to Election Day, what you do is, you invite all your friends out to get pizza and beer, and then while you're driving, you stop at the voting location for their area, and then be like, we're just gonna run in real quick, make sure we vote, and then we're gonna go and have wings and beer, and that's the way you gotta do it.

01:34:54.000 I also believe that Election Day should be a national holiday, and there should be one day, as the Constitution prescribes.

01:35:03.000 Intuitive Coder says, I like Ian.

01:35:07.000 Ruler of Stars says, I also like Ian. 1.00

01:35:10.000 Oh shit. 0.99

01:35:11.000 It's happening. 1.00

01:35:13.000 Are you good over there?

01:35:14.000 I'm getting hot, but yeah, I'm okay.

01:35:18.000 That's great.

01:35:20.000 All right, we will grab, I want to try and find some good super checks.

01:35:25.000 Those last two sucked.

01:35:27.000 Just kidding. 0.86

01:35:28.000 Yeah, people liking Ian?

01:35:29.000 What are you doing?

01:35:31.000 Joe Spinella says, Tim, you need to get former IRS agent Joseph Bannister as well as author of Income Tax Shattering, the myth Dave Champion, on your show.

01:35:39.000 Both found there is no lawmaking 99% of Americans.

01:35:44.000 Dave alone hasn't filed for 24 years.

01:35:48.000 I do not believe that's true.

01:35:49.000 Excuse me?

01:35:50.000 There was a very famous case about Ed and Elaine Brown where a bunch of government agents came and arrested them because they did not pay their taxes.

01:35:57.000 So pretty sure that's not true.

01:35:59.000 Yeah, no.

01:36:00.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 All right.

01:36:05.000 Let's grab some good questions.

01:36:07.000 Always want to make sure we're getting the good ones.

01:36:11.000 All right, Eve Welcome says, Please have Naomi go through the 10 steps free societies are shut down. 1.00

01:36:16.000 End of America was a warning ignored.

01:36:18.000 Yeah, is it really, really long and verbose?

01:36:21.000 Or is it enough to go through?

01:36:23.000 I'm actually googling my article, but I will skip over some.

01:36:28.000 So you start with a terrifying internal and external threat.

01:36:32.000 As I mentioned, it can be a real threat.

01:36:34.000 but hyped and exaggerated, like the global war on terror or a virus that most people don't have a problem with.

01:36:40.000 Came from somewhere.

01:36:41.000 Exactly.

01:36:43.000 Then you get into creating a thug cast.

01:36:48.000 Then you get into creating a place outside the rule of law where prisoners are held, like at your point about January 6th prisoners or Guantanamo in the case of global war on terror.

01:36:58.000 You create a surveillance society, so people are spying on people or, you know, digital technologies tracking people.

01:37:05.000 And then I'll skip ahead, you know, five, six, seven, eight, you start to criminalize speech, as you and I were discussing, you start to target key individuals in the culture, which we're also seeing, you know, being people take being taken out.

01:37:21.000 You start to create an environment in which people can't tell truth from lies.

01:37:24.000 There's so much confusion, so much lying misinformation in the news, people just kind of give up.

01:37:30.000 And then step 10 is to suspend the rule of law, martial law, which most people don't even know we're at right now.

01:37:38.000 Many of your, maybe your clued in viewers do know, but most Americans literally don't know that President Biden extended emergency law in April because of the situation in Iran, I kid you not, like who's writing his material?

01:37:51.000 But he keeps extending it in an open-ended way and state by state, many states, 28 states are still under emergency law and extending it like New York State, my tyrannical Governor Hochul extended emergency law every 30 days.

01:38:04.000 So we're there, we're at step 10.

01:38:07.000 Wow.

01:38:07.000 All right, ShadowCloud says, only a few years ago, she was pro-abortion up until birth.

01:38:12.000 That is not true.

01:38:13.000 That is not true.

01:38:14.000 Not true.

01:38:15.000 That is categorically not true.

01:38:17.000 And I really wonder why that's being attributed to me.

01:38:21.000 Because you're a feminist? 1.00

01:38:22.000 Well, let's hear more.

01:38:23.000 They say, her Crowder interview, has her stance changed?

01:38:28.000 I literally strongly object to something I didn't say being attributed to me.

01:38:34.000 I think that people should check their sources before they claim that people believe things they don't believe, and I refer everybody to an essay I wrote called Our Bodies, Our Souls in 1995, which is much syndicated and you can find it anywhere, in which I explain my incredible unhappiness about the moral angst and difficulties that arise with abortion after the first trimester.

01:39:00.000 I do believe that for women to have any autonomy at all, we have to control our reproduction for the first trimester, the first 40 days in my tradition. 0.99

01:39:09.000 I'm Jewish, you know, there are other traditions that Allow for abortions in the first 40 days.

01:39:14.000 It's not good.

01:39:15.000 It's not happy.

01:39:16.000 It's always a failure Of something but I do not believe in abortion after the first trimester.

01:39:24.000 I don't yeah So I was noticing this is something that I had wanted to ask you about in 1995 You were saying that we need to call abortion exactly what it is Which is murder and it does no in any service to call it anything other than that Do you think that's a fair representation?

01:39:38.000 Do you still think that?

01:39:39.000 Can you repeat your summary?

01:39:42.000 I just want to make sure.

01:39:43.000 I don't know.

01:39:43.000 Hopefully I've got the summary right.

01:39:45.000 But my understanding was that you were saying it does no one any service to call it anything other than what it is, which is simply murder.

01:39:51.000 I think you're probably referring to after the first trimester.

01:39:55.000 I said it's death.

01:39:57.000 It's death of a being.

01:39:58.000 I don't know that I used the word murder.

01:40:00.000 I'd have to check.

01:40:00.000 But definitely the gist of that article was we pro-choice feminists are lying when we use phrases like a clump of cells.

01:40:11.000 And that it has no moral integrity to say a four-month fetus that we want is all, oh, look at the sonogram.

01:40:20.000 Isn't it cute?

01:40:21.000 Here, let's frame the sonogram.

01:40:22.000 And a four-month fetus that we don't want is just something to be, you know, flushed away or done away with.

01:40:28.000 And that I also, I love feminists for life. 1.00

01:40:31.000 I love them because they point out that feminism, for a hundred years before the second wave of feminism, opposed abortion.

01:40:40.000 And saw women's need for abortion. 0.95

01:40:42.000 It's always an act of desperation, right?

01:40:45.000 No one wants to have an abortion. 1.00

01:40:46.000 No one I know has ever wanted, like you want an abortion rather than a baby sometimes in your life, unfortunately.

01:40:53.000 Not you, but many women I know.

01:40:56.000 But people aren't like, oh how wonderful, I'm having an abortion.

01:41:01.000 I think that there is a push to make it like that.

01:41:03.000 I don't think people are like, I want to get pregnant so I can have an abortion.

01:41:07.000 Lena Dunham said that.

01:41:09.000 Maybe she meant it, maybe not.

01:41:10.000 But I don't think she really was like seeking it out.

01:41:12.000 She never did.

01:41:13.000 She might have said it.

01:41:13.000 She didn't do it.

01:41:14.000 It's tribal cultism where they want to be a part of the cult. 0.73

01:41:18.000 I mean, some little kids want to smash ants just to watch them suffer.

01:41:21.000 So maybe.

01:41:21.000 They also want to divorce you from the consequences of what an abortion is really like.

01:41:25.000 I remember, I mean, Teen Vogue famously did this article where they were like, what to get your friend when she has an abortion?

01:41:30.000 And it's like movies, so she has something to watch.

01:41:33.000 And Planned Parenthood enamel pins for her backpack because they were able to provide her this important service.

01:41:38.000 I mean, this is a publication which has become very left slightly radical theoretically is targeted at teenagers what's a teenager 13 to 18 19 maybe at the most i mean they're encouraging young women to think of this choice as sort of this weird quirky milestone like you treat it the same way when your friend goes through a bad breakup bring her some ice cream and a good movie i totally know what you're talking about because the culture was even there when i was a teenager and in high school i remember that it was like

01:42:07.000 Oh, you went to Planned Parenthood?

01:42:08.000 Oh no, you gossip.

01:42:10.000 And Planned Parenthood, like, I love them in a lot of ways because they help protect young women from getting pregnant.

01:42:16.000 That is really important.

01:42:18.000 But there was this kind of trivializing of the abortion or almost glamorizing of the trip to Planned Parenthood to have it done and the drama and so on.

01:42:26.000 And I've seen that.

01:42:27.000 I mean, I've seen, you know, websites aimed at saying that parents who want to know about their teenage girls Being pregnant or choosing abortion to have a say in it are coercive and oppressive patriarchs and

01:42:41.000 And really there's this glamorization of taking over the teenager and getting her through this in a kind of cozy, cute way, and that's disgusting.

01:42:51.000 But what I just wanted to share, because it was so new to me when I first heard about it, is that Feminists for Life have what they call a seamless web of life philosophy. 1.00

01:43:00.000 They oppose capital punishment and they oppose abortion, but they make the case that if we really had, and I wrote a subset about this recently, if we really had a pro-woman society, We wouldn't treat abortion the way we do now.

01:43:13.000 We would have all kinds of support for young women who got pregnant.

01:43:17.000 The women who most often have abortions are in their 20s, right? 1.00

01:43:20.000 So what might we have?

01:43:22.000 We would have maybe places they could go, you know, to bring their baby to term. 0.98

01:43:26.000 We would have easy adoption.

01:43:27.000 We would have free contraception.

01:43:29.000 We would have all kinds of real choices that don't drive young women into just this one choice. 0.66

01:43:35.000 And they would be supported and You know, good nutrition and all the things that they need.

01:43:40.000 And we don't do that right now.

01:43:41.000 It's just either, you know, exploit them as child bearers or exploit them as people to abort and then kind of trivialize. 0.69

01:43:49.000 Have you seen all the pregnancy centers that were attacked, vandalized, or firebombed?

01:43:53.000 Terrible.

01:43:54.000 It's crazy.

01:43:54.000 It's terrible.

01:43:55.000 It's terrible.

01:43:56.000 And I'm sorry, I'm going to go further and say I think young people are having what I can only call... I used to think people who talked like this were crazy right-wingers, but I do think there's a kind of evil kind of Almost satanic, satanic, satanic.

01:44:09.000 Discourse. 0.84

01:44:10.000 Everybody drinks, she said it.

01:44:11.000 Do you say satanic?

01:44:13.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:44:14.000 I'm making it up for you.

01:44:15.000 Thank you.

01:44:15.000 People call it blackpilled.

01:44:17.000 Like if people are really, if they have etched in that they were overpopulated, that kind of myth has been propagated.

01:44:23.000 Whether or not it's real or fake myth, it's a myth.

01:44:25.000 It's a story that we have been telling ourselves that there's just this idea of like burn it all, you know, whatever.

01:44:31.000 If it's too much, then it's too much.

01:44:32.000 I give up kind of thing.

01:44:34.000 Which you could call evil or satanic.

01:44:36.000 Alex Jones says demons, demonic. 0.79

01:44:38.000 And he doesn't mean, to a certain degree, he doesn't mean literally, these people are demons.

01:44:42.000 He means figuratively, these are like demonic individuals.

01:44:44.000 Well, it's demonic to say a six month old fetus is nothing.

01:44:49.000 That's demonic.

01:44:49.000 I completely agree.

01:44:50.000 Like your position on it really, I think, exemplifies my family and how we viewed it.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, seriously.

01:44:57.000 always told growing up, it's never a good thing, it's always bad, but you know, we

01:45:01.000 don't like the idea of within a certain period, like the government coming in, but

01:45:04.000 my family, urban liberals were like, at a certain point, like, you're just killing a

01:45:09.000 baby, you know what I mean? These days, you know, they're cheering for it.

01:45:12.000 It's terrifying.

01:45:13.000 So when we had on this progressive guy, progressive guy in your seat, me here and

01:45:17.000 Christian, a Catholic conservative, Seamus Coghlan, who wants abortion banned in all

01:45:21.000 circumstances across the board.

01:45:23.000 And he wasn't even arguing.

01:45:25.000 It was me and the progressive guy arguing, and he was calling me right-wing.

01:45:28.000 And I'm like, bro, I'm pro-choice!

01:45:29.000 I'm like traditional pro-choice.

01:45:32.000 And I think you've crossed the line, but he was like, the woman can choose at any point to terminate the baby, even at nine months.

01:45:38.000 But what is this going to do? 0.91

01:45:39.000 Why not then kill neonates? 1.00

01:45:41.000 Why not then kill injured five-year-olds? 1.00

01:45:45.000 Have you seen Governor Northam in Virginia? 0.99

01:45:47.000 Totally.

01:45:48.000 The two state bills, I've seen them.

01:45:51.000 Again, I thought the right-wing crazies were making it up, but then I read the bills!

01:45:54.000 And I have this wonderful editor, Kate Malgoza, who's in her 20s, who did a breakdown of one of these bills.

01:46:01.000 They let you let the baby die both in Washington State and in Virginia a month after.

01:46:06.000 Virginia, I don't know if they passed it or I think they tried to I think it failed.

01:46:10.000 Resuscitate the baby and make it comfortable and then have a convert or like deform or whatever. 0.99

01:46:14.000 But bro, if the baby is resuscitated and alive, there is no circumstance, you know, I can understand a circumstance where it's like, we can we can we can we can help it live for five minutes and it's gonna die and that's probably cruel.

01:46:29.000 It's another thing to outline in law.

01:46:32.000 A viable baby that can survive on its own can be killed.

01:46:36.000 Oh, and it says that the bills say that.

01:46:38.000 Yeah.

01:46:39.000 The Democrats tried passing that nationally and Manchin was the one who blocked it.

01:46:43.000 But who did that?

01:46:44.000 I mean, people have to remember their history.

01:46:46.000 Nazis did that.

01:46:47.000 The Nazis did that from 1930 to 1933. 0.89

01:46:49.000 Before they were in power, they did what's happening to especially people your age or your

01:46:55.000 age I should say they progressively eroded the idea that there was any sanctity 1.00

01:47:00.000 to life and you know you start with the mentally ill they're you know useless eaters their life unworthy of life 1.00

01:47:06.000 then you move on to the okay it's 1938 we go after the jews 1.00

01:47:10.000 Okay, it's, you know, 1942, we feed them into ovens. 0.81

01:47:13.000 This is a progression.

01:47:15.000 And, I mean, cannibalism?

01:47:16.000 Like, people are telling me, oh, yeah, there's this cannibalism thing in pop culture.

01:47:20.000 I'm like, come on, really?

01:47:21.000 And then there it is!

01:47:22.000 Or, you know, there are these satanic images in pop culture.

01:47:25.000 I'm like, come on, really? 0.99

01:47:26.000 I mean, you guys are crazy Christians, whatever. 1.00

01:47:28.000 There it is, you know, and so this is really happening and I think it's intentional because effort goes into drafting those bills. 0.94

01:47:35.000 You have to pay lawyers to draft those bills.

01:47:37.000 Why are they drafting those bills? 0.86

01:47:39.000 No one's clamoring.

01:47:40.000 There's no lobby saying, I want to let, you know, newborn month olds die. 0.99

01:47:44.000 This is absolutely, I believe, coming from our enemies to degrade us.

01:47:49.000 It's certainly coming from Yuval Noah Harari at the World Economic Forum. 0.98

01:47:52.000 He calls people useless eaters. 0.98

01:47:54.000 He's referenced the useless class like they're really, they're not useless. 0.98

01:47:57.000 Yeah, to be fair though, Malik does demand child support.

01:48:01.000 Well, all right, that's a good point.

01:48:03.000 Let's read some more Super Chats. 0.91

01:48:04.000 We got Sergeant Kirk who says, Private citizens can and should be able to have nuclear weapons.

01:48:09.000 We already live in a world where they do.

01:48:12.000 Who makes the nuclear weapons for the government?

01:48:13.000 Private corporations.

01:48:14.000 True facts.

01:48:16.000 Private individuals.

01:48:17.000 So when you have an FFL, you can actually, someone told me this is a form you can fill out for nuclear weapons.

01:48:21.000 Because it is private corporations that make them all.

01:48:24.000 Government doesn't make them. 0.74

01:48:26.000 Halliburton and Boeing and Northrop Grumman and all that stuff.

01:48:29.000 I don't know which ones.

01:48:30.000 They make the warheads, they make the missiles, but they don't make them attached.

01:48:32.000 They let the government do the... Is that true?

01:48:35.000 I don't know.

01:48:36.000 It's like building the receiver, but not building the gun.

01:48:40.000 Alright, Andrew Re says, Naomi, curious if your opinion of Camille Paglia has changed over time.

01:48:45.000 Any new conversations or responses to each other's work since the 90s?

01:48:49.000 You speak of Marxist influence similar to her.

01:48:53.000 Huh, interesting.

01:48:55.000 Um, well, I never, I don't think I started the name calling in the 90s.

01:49:01.000 But, um, I mean, this is ancient history.

01:49:03.000 But yeah, Camille Paglia was a protege of Harold Bloom, who sexually molested me essentially was when I was under an undergraduate.

01:49:11.000 And I think it's interesting that she kind of hounded me the first decade of my career.

01:49:15.000 And Harold Bloom was such a force behind her kind of astronomical ascent from nowhere.

01:49:24.000 But I'm always willing to engage with anyone.

01:49:28.000 I haven't had any approaches from her for many years.

01:49:31.000 And she never, to your point about debate, I once ran into her physically, and I'd never met her before.

01:49:36.000 She'd just been sniping at me for, you know, a long time.

01:49:40.000 And, calling me names, and I said, you know, we should really have an open public discussion, an open debate, a constructive debate, and she sort of scurried away.

01:49:49.000 Did she wave her hands and go, no?

01:49:51.000 No, not going to do that.

01:49:53.000 No, she just kind of fled like a, you know, little marmoset. 0.97

01:49:58.000 All right, and let's grab some good Super Chats.

01:50:01.000 Let's see what we got.

01:50:07.000 Mr. Devilman says, I don't protest.

01:50:09.000 I just want to be left alone.

01:50:10.000 I am trained to fight wars.

01:50:12.000 You never want to see a war, but if there is one, I'll be one of the many bringing on the war machine.

01:50:17.000 That's what we hear a lot.

01:50:18.000 The people who are actually trained in war are the ones begging it not to happen.

01:50:22.000 Civil war, whatever.

01:50:23.000 So you mentioned the potential of civil war.

01:50:24.000 I talk about it quite a bit.

01:50:26.000 Four years ago, with the street fighting, I was reading these articles talking about the prospect of civil war, and seeing this, I said, it feels like we're on track for one.

01:50:35.000 When do you think, if it were to happen, what's your timeline?

01:50:40.000 Well, let me stress that I civil war is terrible.

01:50:44.000 I don't want it.

01:50:46.000 I don't want anyone to take this out of context out there in internet land and media land and misunderstand me.

01:50:54.000 But I see it happening already.

01:50:55.000 I mean, civil wars, failed states are really interesting, like, or states where there's no rule of law, like I was in Sierra Leone in 2006.

01:51:04.000 and there was no rule of law. That's why I'm so scared of a state of no rule of law. But there

01:51:09.000 were militias. And so we're kind of there, right? Like when Antifa, whoever they were, I think they

01:51:14.000 were heavily infiltrated, because the left just isn't that organized. But when people are burning

01:51:20.000 whole neighborhoods in cities, that's already a form of civil war. And when people are,

01:51:27.000 you know, when there's eminent domain, when things are being taken from people,

01:51:31.000 as we're seeing with the Dutch farmers or the truckers or the people who supported the truckers,

01:51:36.000 that's already an aspect of civil war.

01:51:38.000 The war is being waged already against the people of North America, the people of the West. 0.67

01:51:42.000 I mean, this is the argument of my book.

01:51:44.000 The bodies of others.

01:51:45.000 So it's not always violence in the street, although there is plenty of violence in the street.

01:51:51.000 It's also theft and restrictions.

01:51:54.000 You know, this whole idea in lockdowns that there were places you couldn't go.

01:51:57.000 That's part of civil war, right?

01:51:59.000 Where some people claim rights to certain territories and other people aren't allowed to go there.

01:52:05.000 And that restrictions only happen to populations that are about to have their assets stolen from them, like in the Warsaw Ghetto or Native Americans on reservations.

01:52:14.000 So we're in a civil war already.

01:52:16.000 The whole defund the police movement, I think, is part of waging war against the American

01:52:21.000 people or instigating a civil war because the more crime there is, as we've said, the

01:52:27.000 more people have to kind of turn to themselves to defend themselves.

01:52:32.000 And you know, this bill, 86,000 new IRS agents, they keep trying to create militias.

01:52:37.000 Remember, step two is you create a thug cast, you create a blackwater, a militia, black 1.00

01:52:42.000 shirts, brown shirts, thugs that are not accountable, you know, up and down the chain of command

01:52:47.000 in an organized structure of the rule of law.

01:52:50.000 And this administration and these World Economic Forum puppets around the world are creating

01:52:54.000 Like those guys dressed in black who are beating up the truckers in Canada are the same guys dressed in black who are beating up protesters in France.

01:53:02.000 And they look like mercenaries.

01:53:05.000 They're not like local police.

01:53:07.000 There were anti-mandate protesters outside of a hospital and Antifa showed up and started beating them.

01:53:11.000 And it's like, so the guys outside oppose government intervention and Antifa, anti-fascists, support government intervention.

01:53:18.000 Funny.

01:53:19.000 Alright, Slane Hope says, Ian clearly didn't learn a thing from Uncle Ben's death.

01:53:23.000 Cutting criminals loose has consequences.

01:53:26.000 The left is already doing this, how is that working?

01:53:29.000 I don't know who Uncle Ben is.

01:53:31.000 So here's what happened, Ian.

01:53:32.000 Spider-Man was at a wrestling match, and he denied the money he was supposed to win, because the promoter was like, yeah, what are you gonna do about it?

01:53:41.000 And then he was like, pshh.

01:53:42.000 And this guy comes in and steals the money and runs off, and the promoter goes, hey, stop that guy!

01:53:48.000 And then Spider-Man's all like, oh, you know, what are you gonna do about it, or something like that.

01:53:52.000 And then he goes outside, and the dude who stole the money He's trying to get away and tries stealing a car and then shoots the man inside who happens to be Spider-Man's Uncle Ben.

01:54:00.000 You see?

01:54:02.000 So the moral of the story was with great power comes great responsibility.

01:54:05.000 I see, but this is a crime in process?

01:54:08.000 That Uncle Ben got killed during a crime in process?

01:54:10.000 Yeah.

01:54:11.000 Okay, that's not what I'm talking about.

01:54:11.000 But Spider-Man could have stopped him.

01:54:13.000 He could have stopped the criminal, but he chose not to out of a personal vendetta.

01:54:17.000 He chose to let the criminal go.

01:54:19.000 He's running towards him and he goes, stop him.

01:54:21.000 He's like, no.

01:54:21.000 I don't advocate ignoring future crime.

01:54:23.000 That's not what I'm talking about.

01:54:24.000 If someone wants to commit a crime after we do a great pardon, then they're going to jail or they're going to face the consequences.

01:54:29.000 Wait a minute.

01:54:30.000 Wait a minute.

01:54:30.000 Hold on.

01:54:31.000 Hold on.

01:54:31.000 I got to stop.

01:54:32.000 Slane, you're wrong.

01:54:33.000 It was revealed in Spider-Man 3 that it was actually Sandman that killed Uncle Ben.

01:54:39.000 And it was an accident and Spider-Man forgave him.

01:54:42.000 Retconned for your generosity.

01:54:45.000 But the point was, Spider-Man ultimately forgave Sandman, who apologized, saying he didn't mean to do it, it was an accident.

01:54:52.000 And Spider-Man had to learn to let that pain go.

01:54:56.000 Exactly.

01:54:56.000 When someone has wronged you and you still forgive them?

01:55:00.000 Who's the Christian here? 1.00

01:55:01.000 I don't know if any of these analogies actually work or make sense.

01:55:03.000 I think it's just funny to talk about Spider-Man.

01:55:06.000 All right, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:55:07.000 says, ChairCast IRL rocked 40,000 concurrent viewers.

01:55:12.000 Concurrent viewers?

01:55:12.000 Yeah.

01:55:14.000 So when we had a credible threat, what was it, like two months ago or something?

01:55:18.000 Yeah, just about.

01:55:19.000 We were forced to evacuate and we just left the show on as we were kept outside by the police and they had to bring dogs in.

01:55:26.000 The room cam.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, so we did the wide cam and it was 40,000 people stayed and watched an empty room for three hours.

01:55:32.000 That's kind of cool.

01:55:33.000 It's fun, yeah.

01:55:35.000 It's cool.

01:55:35.000 It's kind of cool.

01:55:36.000 It was kind of lame that we had to leave, you know, but, you know.

01:55:38.000 It's kind of dull stream, but, you know.

01:55:40.000 We should find the silver lining to these constant threats.

01:55:43.000 I'm really sorry you guys are going through this.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, but it is what it is.

01:55:47.000 It's Civil War, right?

01:55:48.000 No, it's that we're running an entertainment company.

01:55:52.000 That's why they build walls around the entertainment companies because people want to go there and say hi and be part of it.

01:56:00.000 I remember America when journalists and entertainers were not in fear of their lives.

01:56:08.000 But since the dawn of internet video, Tim has no overhead.

01:56:11.000 He started with a camera in his bedroom.

01:56:13.000 People are getting way more famous.

01:56:15.000 Living room.

01:56:16.000 Living room, living room, living room.

01:56:18.000 I digress.

01:56:19.000 They have way more fame than they have money right now for security.

01:56:22.000 So people are in this just bizarre reality of exposure that has never existed in the past.

01:56:28.000 You know, there was something special about that first room I set up.

01:56:32.000 I would take a GoPro 4 and I'd put it on top of my monitor and just press record.

01:56:36.000 And then I would just talk for like 10 minutes and that was it.

01:56:38.000 And it was like, and that slowly got longer and longer.

01:56:40.000 But those were special days.

01:56:42.000 I advocate building a walled compound.

01:56:44.000 I think it makes a lot of sense.

01:56:45.000 When you run an entertainment company, you just need to build barriers.

01:56:48.000 Look, I married my bodyguard.

01:56:49.000 I'm not gonna judge you for caring about security.

01:56:52.000 It's important.

01:56:52.000 Your libertarian bodyguard.

01:56:54.000 I love it!

01:56:56.000 What I think everybody needs is a 40-foot wall, thick concrete from sea to shining sea, protecting their home, and maybe some auto-defense turrets.

01:57:07.000 Yes.

01:57:07.000 Maybe a moat.

01:57:08.000 Specifically, maybe... Moat with alligators.

01:57:10.000 Moats are cool.

01:57:11.000 Remember when they claimed Trump wanted a moat with alligators on the border?

01:57:14.000 Yes!

01:57:14.000 Joseph McFarlane's Federal Reserve notes are already one-tenth of a U.S.

01:57:17.000 note.

01:57:17.000 Taken back at only 900% of face value.

01:57:18.000 Restore a constitutional currency.

01:57:19.000 Deflate by 10% of true original value.

01:57:20.000 Crocs, Crocs is a little nasty.

01:57:21.000 All right.

01:57:24.000 Joseph McFarlane's Federal Reserve notes are already 1 tenth of a US note taken back at only 900% of face value.

01:57:32.000 Restore a constitutional currency deflate by 10% of true original value freeze market prices for six months.

01:57:40.000 I don't know if it's possible.

01:57:41.000 Freezing the market's pretty, pretty, pretty communist, but I don't know.

01:57:44.000 We're in desperate times right now.

01:57:47.000 Alright.

01:57:49.000 Wootdoo4u says, I decided to join Reddit to combat the mind virus.

01:57:53.000 My lord, it's way worse than I imagined.

01:57:55.000 And here I thought FB and Twitter were bad.

01:57:57.000 I believe that Reddit is bots.

01:57:59.000 Do you know about dead internet theory?

01:58:01.000 No.

01:58:02.000 The idea is that sometime around Donald Trump's election, multiple agencies, internet companies realized like, hey, letting people have free speech on these platforms is really bad for global infrastructure.

01:58:13.000 So now the internet is overwhelmingly just bots simulating public opinion.

01:58:19.000 I believe that.

01:58:20.000 From my own experience, I believe that.

01:58:22.000 And most people are banned.

01:58:23.000 A handful of influential people are allowed to post, everyone else robots.

01:58:27.000 Wow.

01:58:28.000 Robits.

01:58:29.000 Yep.

01:58:30.000 Wasn't this a huge part of the Twitter deal with Elon Musk?

01:58:32.000 They couldn't say how many bots they had?

01:58:34.000 Yeah, well they claim they did, and then he says they didn't, so.

01:58:40.000 Bear in mind, says the IRS has a $600,000 bounty on anyone that can crack the crypto XMR, a.k.a.

01:58:47.000 Monero.

01:58:48.000 It's an amazing endorsement.

01:58:49.000 Is that true?

01:58:51.000 $600,000?

01:58:52.000 I don't think that's enough money, to be honest.

01:58:54.000 Like, they'd have to offer way more to crack the encryption on a cryptocurrency, you know.

01:58:59.000 That's a crazy undertaking.

01:59:02.000 Yeah, $625,000 reward for cracking Monero.

01:59:04.000 This is going to Cryptocurrency365.com.

01:59:07.000 I just don't see that being possible.

01:59:09.000 I don't know, maybe quantum computing can unravel it.

01:59:12.000 Up to $625,000.

01:59:12.000 What does that mean?

01:59:14.000 It means $1.

01:59:17.000 Like, oh, congratulations, you destroyed this network.

01:59:19.000 Monero's doing a big upgrade the next couple weeks, I've heard.

01:59:21.000 Oh, good for them.

01:59:24.000 All right.

01:59:26.000 Seth Houser says, did you not vote for Biden and the Democrats in 2020?

01:59:30.000 I did.

01:59:31.000 You did.

01:59:32.000 I did.

01:59:33.000 What was your reasoning then when you voted for Biden, especially considering everything you've said now?

01:59:38.000 Well, I told you my strong feelings about how President Trump talked about sexual assault.

01:59:45.000 But that wasn't even the main thing, though personally it was a hurdle I couldn't overcome.

01:59:51.000 The main thing also was the climate and the environment.

01:59:57.000 I thought that the Biden administration would be real liberals.

02:00:03.000 I thought they would protect the environment.

02:00:06.000 I thought they would ensure, you know, some rights of women to reproductive access, which I do believe in in the first trimester.

02:00:15.000 I thought that they would protect our core institutions.

02:00:21.000 And I did not realize, and my husband told me, right, because he knows China.

02:00:27.000 He was in military intelligence for 12 years.

02:00:29.000 And he's like, you guys are going to open the door to a massive subversion of this country by your enemies.

02:00:36.000 And I was like, this is crazy.

02:00:37.000 And he was 100% correct.

02:00:39.000 Would you vote for Trump in 2024?

02:00:41.000 I'm supposed to stay nonpartisan, so I can't answer that.

02:00:44.000 I will say that I'm no longer a registered Democrat.

02:00:48.000 I'm an independent.

02:00:49.000 I think the Democrats have like a hundred years of cleaning up and apologizing and breastfeeding and internal cleansing to do. 0.92

02:01:00.000 And they need to be investigated for FARA conflicts because they're taking money from our enemies at an intense scale.

02:01:09.000 But I do think a dream team, if I can say this in a nonpartisan way, is actually DeSantis and Kristi Noem.

02:01:16.000 Noem! 1.00

02:01:17.000 I think she's great too.

02:01:18.000 I'm a big fan of DeSantis.

02:01:20.000 He's so good.

02:01:21.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

02:01:24.000 You know, we'll see.

02:01:25.000 We'll see.

02:01:25.000 You know, there's a little bit of back and forth.

02:01:27.000 Trump firing everybody is really appealing to me.

02:01:29.000 The Schedule F stuff he's trying to do.

02:01:32.000 But Ron DeSantis just removed that woke prosecutor.

02:01:36.000 So he's showing a willingness to do it as well.

02:01:38.000 We'll see.

02:01:38.000 He's a courageous guy.

02:01:39.000 Yeah.

02:01:40.000 And she's amazing.

02:01:42.000 She did not shut down.

02:01:44.000 She didn't shut down.

02:01:45.000 And when I was in South Dakota, and he did briefly, so she's really the bravest of all governors.

02:01:49.000 They did a parade for her. 0.61

02:01:51.000 Sorry?

02:01:52.000 They had a parade for her.

02:01:53.000 Oh, cool.

02:01:53.000 People were like, good governor!

02:01:55.000 Yeah.

02:01:56.000 When I was there, it felt like America used to feel.

02:01:58.000 Yeah.

02:01:58.000 Wow.

02:01:59.000 People are not traumatized.

02:01:59.000 She's so extremely patriotic that I think it would be amazing to see her on a national stage.

02:02:05.000 I can't speak to all of her policies, but I do think that she captures a nostalgic spirit of American politics that we just don't have anymore.

02:02:11.000 Right on.

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02:02:42.000 To follow me?

02:02:43.000 Yeah, follow you or read your book.

02:02:44.000 Oh, yes, please.

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02:03:18.000 Cool, right on!

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02:03:42.000 Naomi, great to see you.

02:03:43.000 And I want to put your mind at ease about the climate, if I can.

02:03:45.000 We are entering an era where we'll be pulling the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, converting it into graphene through like some sort of catalyst, like a magnesium catalyst or palladium, gold, copper, something like that.

02:03:56.000 And methane as well.

02:03:57.000 We'll convert the methane into carbon dioxide and then into graphene, which is this building material.

02:04:02.000 I'm not sure if you're too familiar with it, but I would recommend.

02:04:05.000 He's obsessed.

02:04:05.000 Wow.

02:04:06.000 He's totally obsessed.

02:04:07.000 This is a relief to hear, Ian.

02:04:09.000 Yeah, they can pull it right out of the smokestack.

02:04:11.000 It'll encourage pulling more coal out of the ground, hitting it with lasers to turn it into a cleaner burn, then recapturing the carbon and reusing it.

02:04:18.000 I think it'll bring a lot of people together, the industrialists and the eco.

02:04:23.000 The eco-fanatics like myself.

02:04:25.000 I hope so.

02:04:26.000 Catch you later.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 10, 2022

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