Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Fetterman Oz Debate LIVE NOW, Disaster Expected As GOP Takes Lead w-Andrew Kloster

00:00:00.000 Tonight is the big debate.

00:00:24.000 Fetterman versus Dr. Oz.

00:00:27.000 And I know it's a Pennsylvania thing, but we have to watch it.

00:00:31.000 We do.

00:00:32.000 You know, we were talking about it before the show, and we're like, a lot of people are gonna want to watch this debate.

00:00:36.000 We gotta comment on it.

00:00:37.000 The other day was the DeSantis debate, but that was an hour before our show went live.

00:00:41.000 The thing is, Fetterman cannot understand words that are said to him.

00:00:46.000 So he has to use a special device, and it's sad, you know, but this, a lot of people expect is going to be a disaster of a debate, because he has to use this device to see the questions that the moderators will ask, and then see what Dr. Oz says in real time.

00:01:01.000 How much you want to bet Dr. Oz tries to say, like, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, so that the machine jumbles it, and Fetterman's like, I mean, not literally the woodchuck thing, but if Dr. Oz starts speaking too quickly, Or uses obscure small words followed by larger words and it mashes them together.

00:01:18.000 Fetterman's gonna... I don't know what you said, I'm sorry, and it's... and he's gonna stumble, so... We're gonna see what he has to offer.

00:01:25.000 The big thing is that they're within two points of each other, and considering the margin of error, it effectively means Oz is going to win in Pennsylvania if nothing changes.

00:01:31.000 So Fetterman is desperate!

00:01:33.000 So we're going to watch some of that debate.

00:01:34.000 We'll see how it goes. 0.99

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00:04:00.000 The debate's getting started soon, so let's just go quick.

00:04:02.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Andrew Kloster!

00:04:06.000 You want to grab your microphone and headphones?

00:04:09.000 What happened?

00:04:10.000 So who are you?

00:04:11.000 What do you do?

00:04:12.000 You've got to flip it upside down.

00:04:13.000 You've got to flip it.

00:04:14.000 Flip?

00:04:15.000 No, no, no, no.

00:04:16.000 You have it on.

00:04:17.000 I have it on?

00:04:18.000 No, no, no.

00:04:19.000 You've got to flip it upside down.

00:04:20.000 There you go.

00:04:21.000 Sorry about that.

00:04:23.000 I'm a neophyte.

00:04:24.000 Now, who are you?

00:04:26.000 Hi.

00:04:26.000 You've got to get pretty close.

00:04:28.000 Yeah, sure.

00:04:29.000 I'm Andrew Kloster.

00:04:30.000 I'm a lawyer with, I have a C3 called Personnel Policy Operations.

00:04:34.000 I'm DC based.

00:04:35.000 I was in the Trump White House and a number of agencies.

00:04:38.000 So I've been around on the conservative side of public policy for over a decade now and going strong.

00:04:45.000 So glad to be here.

00:04:46.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:46.000 Right on.

00:04:47.000 You are unprepared.

00:04:49.000 I'm just joking, messing with you.

00:04:50.000 My name is Luke Hradowski here of WeAreChange.org.

00:04:54.000 Unpopular opinion.

00:04:55.000 No politician is coming to save you.

00:04:57.000 And this is why I wore my If You Trust the Government, You Don't Know History shirt.

00:05:01.000 If you like it, you could get it on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

00:05:04.000 Because you do, I'm here.

00:05:05.000 Thanks for having me.

00:05:06.000 I've returned from across the great divide to send my love to all of you.

00:05:10.000 Hello.

00:05:10.000 Welcome back.

00:05:11.000 I'm Ian Crosland.

00:05:12.000 Good to be here.

00:05:12.000 Andrew, good to meet you, man.

00:05:13.000 Good to meet you, too.

00:05:14.000 Serge, what's happening, brother?

00:05:15.000 Hey, Ian.

00:05:15.000 How are you guys doing?

00:05:16.000 Serge.com again.

00:05:17.000 You know where to find me.

00:05:18.000 Let's pull up the debate.

00:05:19.000 The debate's starting.

00:05:19.000 Oh, here we go.

00:05:20.000 I'm running to serve Pennsylvania.

00:05:22.000 Let me fix the audio.

00:05:25.000 Here's a man that spent more than $20 million of his own money to try to buy... What's going on?

00:05:30.000 Everybody's laughing.

00:05:31.000 Aliens.

00:05:32.000 I'm also having to talk about something called... What's with the audio?

00:05:37.000 That if he's on TV, he's lying.

00:05:39.000 That's definitely not us.

00:05:40.000 That's definitely them.

00:05:41.000 It's not us at all.

00:05:42.000 On his TV show.

00:05:43.000 Because we have perfect feet and I'm listening to the keyboard.

00:05:45.000 Oh no, dude!

00:05:47.000 Our record here.

00:05:48.000 That's his voice.

00:05:49.000 And he's also lying, probably during his TV.

00:05:52.000 What is going on with this?

00:05:54.000 Let's also talk about the elephant in the room.

00:05:56.000 I had a stroke.

00:05:57.000 He's never let me forget that.

00:05:59.000 And I might miss some words during this debate, mush two words together, but it knocked me down, but I'm gonna keep coming back up.

00:06:08.000 What's up?

00:06:09.000 I'm in the board, this is definitely them.

00:06:11.000 Oh, I know, yeah.

00:06:12.000 This is everyone in the chat is aware.

00:06:14.000 That needs to get back up and fighting for all forgotten communities all across Pennsylvania.

00:06:19.000 That also got knocked down.

00:06:20.000 That needs to keep, get back up.

00:06:22.000 Yo, their audio!

00:06:24.000 Their audio is all screwed up.

00:06:25.000 They sound like aliens.

00:06:26.000 Is this to even the playing field?

00:06:27.000 What's up with the audio?

00:06:28.000 This is your first run for election office.

00:06:31.000 What qualifies you to be a US Senator from Pennsylvania?

00:06:33.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:06:34.000 They sound like aliens.

00:06:35.000 I'm running for the US Senate because Washington keeps getting it wrong with its green position.

00:06:39.000 Is this to even the playing field?

00:06:41.000 I want to bring civility, balance, all the things that you want to see because you've

00:06:45.000 been telling the people that they can't hear you now.

00:06:46.000 What's up with the audio?

00:06:47.000 It's so busted.

00:06:48.000 And by doing that, we can bring us together in a way that has not been done before.

00:06:51.000 Yo, are they throwing it for Federman?

00:06:53.000 I don't know, it could be many things.

00:06:55.000 There's a lot of things in this chain going up here, but it's definitely us.

00:06:58.000 I would not be surprised if they're tanking the audio on purpose because of this.

00:07:02.000 That would be wild.

00:07:04.000 Dude, come on, you mean to tell me that WPXI, this is like a local news agency, just all of a sudden, they do audio every day for hours and they can't get the audio right now.

00:07:13.000 Let's try and find a better one.

00:07:17.000 Look at that.

00:07:18.000 There's nothing.

00:07:19.000 I felt bad about plugging my headphones.

00:07:21.000 But yeah.

00:07:22.000 No, you're right.

00:07:22.000 They're fine.

00:07:24.000 Yo, this is crazy.

00:07:25.000 Not too bad.

00:07:26.000 What a waste of our time.

00:07:27.000 Oh, no.

00:07:27.000 They want us to watch ads now.

00:07:28.000 All right.

00:07:30.000 Goya.

00:07:30.000 Please fix the audio.

00:07:32.000 I'm a big fan of beans.

00:07:34.000 Raising our taxes.

00:07:37.000 That's from a source.

00:07:39.000 What if they are robots and not humans?

00:07:42.000 Or they live aliens?

00:07:46.000 Can someone try and find a different stream, I guess?

00:07:48.000 I'm looking right now.

00:07:50.000 I'm looking it up on YouTube and nothing really even comes up.

00:07:52.000 What about the news site's website?

00:07:54.000 Our next star, Emerson College, the Hill, the economy, inflation are the biggest concerns

00:07:59.000 for voters.

00:08:00.000 What is up with this?

00:08:01.000 39% of them listed back as the top issue.

00:08:04.000 Beginning with you, Mr. Wallace.

00:08:05.000 WPXI.

00:08:07.000 Is that a one-iron?

00:08:11.000 I wonder if it's... If you go on their website.

00:08:12.000 There you go.

00:08:14.000 No.

00:08:14.000 People are saying the audio is good for them in the chat.

00:08:17.000 From that feed.

00:08:18.000 But for us it sounds like so alias.

00:08:20.000 It's weird.

00:08:22.000 No, people were saying in the chat on their feed, please fix the audio and they're laughing saying it's all jacked up.

00:08:26.000 No, it's on their main website on the top left corner.

00:08:29.000 Some people are saying the audio is fine.

00:08:30.000 I'll tell ya, they have 4% waste and fraud.

00:08:33.000 Now I've traveled over the Commonwealth and spoken to countless people.

00:08:36.000 There was a lady in Beaver County at a county fair who told me with fear in her heart that she wanted to provide food for her sons. 0.94

00:08:43.000 Highly nutritious chicken she wanted.

00:08:45.000 She couldn't afford it anymore.

00:08:46.000 That's a big problem.

00:08:48.000 If we've got 4% waste and fraud, we ought to be able to take care of that.

00:08:52.000 John Fetterman's, however, response continually is to raise taxes.

00:08:55.000 I have a feeling it's going to be really boring.

00:08:56.000 He raised taxes as mayor.

00:08:57.000 He tried to raise taxes as a lieutenant governor, 46%.

00:09:01.000 That's a big tax rate.

00:09:02.000 He supported Joe Biden's recent tax rate increase, and he's done that without paying his own taxes 67 times.

00:09:10.000 I'll say that again.

00:09:11.000 He hasn't paid his own taxes 67 times, but he's raising mine and yours.

00:09:15.000 Those are radical positions.

00:09:16.000 They're extreme.

00:09:17.000 They're out of touch with the values of Pennsylvanians.

00:09:20.000 And I can make the difficult decisions, as you do in the operating room as a surgeon.

00:09:24.000 I'll make them cutting our budget as well.

00:09:25.000 Debates where they insult each other.

00:09:26.000 We don't have to raise taxes on a population that's already back in pain from the high

00:09:30.000 inflation rate.

00:09:31.000 They'll get there.

00:09:32.000 Mr. Fetterman, I will allow a 15 second rebuttal.

00:09:34.000 He has specifically said you have not paid your taxes.

00:09:38.000 That's a good thing.

00:09:39.000 I like Fetterman because of that.

00:09:40.000 Fetterman, yes, there we go man.

00:09:42.000 You got my vote now.

00:09:43.000 It was helping two students 17 years ago to help them All right.

00:09:49.000 Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:09:51.000 Continuing with you, Mr. Fetterman, your opponent has criticized Democratic spending, as you heard.

00:09:56.000 Has the Biden administration overspent?

00:09:58.000 And if so, where do you think spending should be cut?

00:10:02.000 Thank you, Mr. Federman. Continuing with you, Mr. Federman, your opponent has criticized

00:10:07.000 Democratic spending, as you heard. Has the Biden administration overspent? And if so,

00:10:12.000 where do you think spending should be cut? You have 60 seconds.

00:10:16.000 No, here's what I think about inflation here right now.

00:10:22.000 That's what we need to fight about inflation, you know, right now because it's a tax on working families, you know.

00:10:28.000 And Dr. Oz can't possibly understand what that is like, you know.

00:10:32.000 He has ten gigantic mansions, you know.

00:10:36.000 We must push back against corporate greed.

00:10:39.000 We must make sure that we're also pushing back against price gouging as well, too.

00:10:43.000 We'd also be able to make more in Pennsylvania, make more in America.

00:10:48.000 When he had a choice to make his merchandise, the Oz label is on.

00:10:54.000 He made it all in China. 0.99

00:10:56.000 Wow.

00:10:56.000 You know, who can you believe that can fight against inflation and pushing back against

00:11:00.000 corporate greed?

00:11:01.000 There's somebody that has chosen working in China versus over American workers.

00:11:08.000 All right, I will allow a 15 second rebuttal to his comments that you have been making

00:11:12.000 things in China.

00:11:13.000 Mr. Oz, that was trying to talk about policy issues with the people of Pennsylvania.

00:11:17.000 As a doctor, I listen to their ideas.

00:11:19.000 I don't want to talk about them.

00:11:20.000 When John Fetterman brings up houses, the irony is he didn't pay for his own house.

00:11:24.000 He got it for a dollar from his sister.

00:11:26.000 And he hasn't been able to earn a living on his own.

00:11:29.000 He's lived off his parents.

00:11:30.000 So it's not a topic that we should be debating on the stage.

00:11:34.000 We should be talking about crime and inflation, the issues that are hurting Pennsylvanians, that they're talking about at their kitchen table.

00:11:39.000 Fetterman probably did that not to pay taxes.

00:11:46.000 Mr. Fetterman, we have to continue on.

00:11:49.000 We'll continue on with a follow-up question to you, Mr. Oz.

00:11:53.000 This one is just for you.

00:11:54.000 You tweeted in August that you will never stop fighting to lower gas prices for Pennsylvanians.

00:11:59.000 Does that include supporting a suspension of the federal gas tax?

00:12:03.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:12:05.000 I'm supportive of reducing taxes, but we want to be thoughtful about the long-term game plan to get gas taxes down and frankly all energy prices down.

00:12:13.000 I have gone around the Commonwealth.

00:12:15.000 I've witnessed people say, I'm not going on vacation this year because I can't afford to pay to take my trailer to the campground.

00:12:21.000 They can't even get there.

00:12:22.000 What we have to do is Thank you.

00:12:24.000 Thank you, Mr. Oz.

00:12:25.000 We will get to the issue of fracking later on in this discussion.

00:12:27.000 to do that is reduce gas prices. John Fetterman has gone after the energy

00:12:31.000 industry, called it a stain on Pennsylvania, and argued we have to ban

00:12:35.000 fracking. That is a disconnect from Pennsylvania.

00:12:38.000 Thank you, thank you Mr. Oz. We will get to the issue of fracking later on in this

00:12:42.000 discussion, but meantime, turning back to you Mr. Fetterman for a follow-up. In an

00:12:47.000 op-ed for the Wilkes-Barre Times-Leader, you wrote, quote, it is time we cracked a

00:12:52.000 You mentioned price going after price gouging corporations.

00:12:55.000 How do you plan to do this?

00:12:56.000 while jacking up prices for all of us.

00:12:59.000 How do you plan to do this, sir?

00:13:01.000 You mentioned price going after price gouging corporations.

00:13:04.000 How do you plan to do this? You have 30 seconds.

00:13:07.000 Exactly.

00:13:08.000 We have to keep pushing back on that.

00:13:10.000 And he would never make that choice to fight for families here in Pennsylvania.

00:13:17.000 He has never met an oil company that he doesn't swipe right about.

00:13:23.000 What?

00:13:24.000 He has never been able to stand up for working families all across Pennsylvania.

00:13:28.000 We must push back.

00:13:30.000 Inflation has hurt Americans and Pennsylvania's families, and it has given the oil companies record profits.

00:13:37.000 All right, thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:13:39.000 Turning to the next issue, Dennis.

00:13:41.000 I'm kind of thinking we just call it... I'm open to that.

00:13:45.000 We call it... It's going to be a lot more of this.

00:13:47.000 Watching an hour of that?

00:13:48.000 No, we can't do it.

00:13:50.000 I'm sorry, everybody.

00:13:50.000 We can't do it.

00:13:51.000 The show level currently sits at $7.25 an hour.

00:13:55.000 No, we're just going to have to... John Fetterman is in recovery from a stroke.

00:14:00.000 That should be the topic of the... That should be the main topic of the debate.

00:14:03.000 I mean, it's a doctor and a guy that's recovering from a stroke on stage.

00:14:07.000 How can they not be talking about that?

00:14:08.000 That's so important.

00:14:09.000 It's embarrassing.

00:14:10.000 That last sentence... I'm actually starting to feel sad watching this.

00:14:15.000 Like, I feel really bad.

00:14:16.000 I'm like, come on, man.

00:14:18.000 I don't want to make a spectacle out of the guy, but he's doing it to himself by running for office.

00:14:21.000 He's basically like, what are we supposed to do?

00:14:23.000 We have to point out the inadequacies.

00:14:26.000 Yo, we had planned on watching that debate.

00:14:29.000 I'm sorry if you guys wanted to.

00:14:30.000 I figured that Most people would probably want to see it, considering it's a prominent Senate race, it's very close.

00:14:36.000 We have here, if we can pull this up, the 538 polling, that Fetterman's up 2.3 points, but considering the huge error in polling, that it's probably going to swing towards us.

00:14:47.000 So we figured this would be important.

00:14:49.000 I didn't think it was going to be that bad.

00:14:51.000 Yeah, that was painful to watch.

00:14:53.000 I really did not think it was going to be that bad.

00:14:54.000 I was uncomfortable.

00:14:56.000 I didn't feel easy because how do you comment on that?

00:15:00.000 I'm not making fun of that guy.

00:15:01.000 You can't make fun of someone like that in that situation.

00:15:04.000 But you do have to call out, you know, I think there's a bigger story to this.

00:15:07.000 We talked about this a couple days ago, specifically about the big powers and the big interests pushing individuals because there was a lot of powerful individuals that invested into him.

00:15:16.000 And I could see him being pushed and pushed by those special interests to be on stage when clearly he shouldn't be.

00:15:23.000 I thought Biden also was pushed, although I don't have evidence.

00:15:26.000 Do you guys have any evidence?

00:15:27.000 Obama said to Biden, you don't have to do this.

00:15:30.000 And his wife apparently walked off and got lost today at the White House.

00:15:35.000 And there's a mean post posted about this specifically being like, you know, he has no people that love him, because if he did, they would make sure he wouldn't be working the most stressful job at his old age, when clearly he's having a lot of problems.

00:15:50.000 This is what I think, you know, when we talk about The fall of empire, the end of the country, or the cultural collapse, or whatever it is you want to call it.

00:15:58.000 It's not, it's not some tyrannical psychopath the way the left screams about fascism.

00:16:03.000 It is, it is Fetterman, it is Biden.

00:16:05.000 Yeah, I gotta say it again, like, we were talking about it, we were downstairs, you know, we're in the green room,

00:16:11.000 we're getting ready before the show, playing pool and stuff, and I'm like, you know,

00:16:16.000 Kellan, who does production stuff for us, was like, oh, hey, the debate's tonight, and I'm like,

00:16:19.000 oh, we definitely gotta watch that, it's gonna be a big one, right?

00:16:21.000 We would've watched the DeSantis one, it probably would've been bigger,

00:16:24.000 and then I'm, you know, Luke was like, I don't know, and I said, look, Fetterman's gonna be using

00:16:28.000 a special device, it's gonna get interesting.

00:16:31.000 That was brutal.

00:16:32.000 That was way, way worse.

00:16:35.000 You couldn't even listen to it.

00:16:36.000 You can't even listen to it.

00:16:36.000 There's no point.

00:16:38.000 I don't know, man.

00:16:39.000 Maybe we need to make people listen to it, but I assume most people who watch this already know, but I'm glad in a sense they are doing the debate, because as bad as it is for Fetterman, there are a lot of people who need to watch that.

00:16:53.000 They need to watch that and be like, okay, this is not a meme.

00:16:56.000 It's not a joke.

00:16:57.000 The dude could not talk or understand.

00:17:00.000 I don't even know what the last thing he responded to about, what was it, I don't even know what he was saying.

00:17:08.000 That he didn't know a air he could oil, he would swipe right on, and I'm like...

00:17:14.000 I guess he's saying like if it was a Tinder and Oz is swiping right on the oil companies.

00:17:14.000 Like Tinder?

00:17:19.000 But then he said America when he meant Pennsylvania and it was... So they prepared him.

00:17:22.000 He had some canned lines.

00:17:23.000 But I mean, that's brutal.

00:17:24.000 And there are thousands of people in Pennsylvania.

00:17:25.000 What are they thinking?

00:17:26.000 They have nothing else to watch right now.

00:17:28.000 You know, I'm sure they got a lot of other stuff.

00:17:29.000 And this is the beginning.

00:17:30.000 I mean, debates are tough.

00:17:30.000 They're gonna watch it.

00:17:32.000 They're really difficult for your mind to process a lot of information very quickly.

00:17:37.000 There's a lot of questions.

00:17:38.000 There's a lot of things you need to really hone in on and to be at your peak mental ability in order to proceed.

00:17:44.000 This could be interfering in his rehabilitation.

00:17:47.000 This could be interfering in healing.

00:17:51.000 Some people want us to keep it running.

00:17:52.000 I guess we can.

00:17:54.000 Press 1 if you want us to keep us running, press 2 if you don't want us to keep us running.

00:17:58.000 People are saying watch it.

00:17:59.000 I'm sorry dude, like, I'm getting really sad.

00:18:04.000 Yo, like, Federman is a personable guy, right?

00:18:08.000 He comes off like a regular guy.

00:18:12.000 And I don't have any animosity for the guy, I think he's got bad policies, but watching this is like, you know what, it kind of reminds me of like watching a dude who was like a great baseball player who got in a car accident, and then him hobbling on the field and everyone clapping, being like, go for it, go for it, and then he falls over and falls on the ground.

00:18:33.000 And everyone's just watching.

00:18:34.000 I'm like, bro, come on.

00:18:36.000 There's more ones than twos, but there's also a lot of twos in the chat.

00:18:40.000 I just think we have to watch it, man.

00:18:41.000 I think people want us to play it.

00:18:42.000 We're gonna play it.

00:18:43.000 We're gonna play it.

00:18:48.000 taxpayers across the country no matter what their personal beliefs are.

00:18:51.000 That's radical.

00:18:52.000 That's extreme.

00:18:53.000 That is out of touch with what the average voter in Pennsylvania believes is appropriate.

00:18:58.000 Now ironically, John Fetterman has been running ads on this topic, dishonest ads.

00:19:02.000 I need to correct the record.

00:19:03.000 They were so bad, they got pulled off television stations.

00:19:06.000 I've got, even on this station, he was running dishonest ads that I had pulled off.

00:19:10.000 I haven't had a single ad pulled down.

00:19:12.000 My ads tell the truth.

00:19:14.000 John Fetterman's are a fiction of his imagination.

00:19:15.000 All right.

00:19:16.000 We're going to let Mr. Fetterman respond specifically about the ads being pulled off the air and

00:19:21.000 then we will return to you, Mr. Oz.

00:19:23.000 Mr. Fetterman.

00:19:24.000 Yeah, I want to look into the face of every woman in Pennsylvania. 0.98

00:19:30.000 You know, if you believe that the choice of your reproductive freedom belongs with Dr. Oz, then you have a choice.

00:19:36.000 But if you believe that the choice for abortion belongs between you and your doctor, that's what I fight for.

00:19:42.000 Roe v. Wade, for me, should be the law.

00:19:46.000 He celebrated when Roe v. Wade went down, and my campaign would fight for Roe v. Wade, and if given the opportunity, to codify it into law.

00:19:56.000 Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:19:57.000 Going back to you, I want to circle back to something that you said, Mr. Oz.

00:20:00.000 You mentioned the decision to regulate abortion should be something that is left up to the states.

00:20:06.000 Now, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has introduced a federal bill to ban abortion after 15 weeks.

00:20:11.000 I know that you've been asked about this question before.

00:20:14.000 If the vote were held today, you were elected senator, you're on the Senate floor, the clerk calls you, there's a roll call vote.

00:20:22.000 Are you a yay or a nay?

00:20:23.000 How would you vote on the Lindsey Graham bill?

00:20:25.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:20:26.000 Lisa, I don't even need 30 seconds.

00:20:28.000 I'll give you a bigger answer.

00:20:29.000 I am not going to support federal, federal rules that block the ability of states to do what they wish to do.

00:20:36.000 The abortion decision should be left up to states, and specifically when John Federman...

00:20:43.000 I've been very clear on my desire as a physician not to interfere with how states decide.

00:20:52.000 So when John purposely, knowingly misrepresents that to women, he scares them.

00:20:56.000 He's purposely trying to alarm them and the fear-mongering isn't working.

00:21:00.000 Running tens of millions of dollars of ads, claiming that I'm against all abortions, when he knows that's not right.

00:21:04.000 Claiming that I'm going to be strict with Pennsylvania, when he knows that's not honest.

00:21:08.000 I can't be any clearer than I've been on the stage today.

00:21:10.000 John Fetterman, if you just hear that one story today, I'd be really happy.

00:21:14.000 But I know you're not going to, because you're going to go right back to telling the fables that you believe.

00:21:18.000 Mr. Oz, I want a 15-second clarification.

00:21:21.000 You are saying that you would leave it up to the states, that the federal government does not have a role here.

00:21:26.000 So are you saying you would not vote for the Lindsey Graham bill?

00:21:30.000 Any bill that violates what I said, which is the federal government interfering with the state rule on abortion, I would vote against.

00:21:37.000 What I feel strongly about is that women in Pennsylvania understand what I'm saying and not believe that someone who's taking an extreme position like John Fetterman represents them.

00:21:45.000 Because most women do not believe that we should, at a federal level, codify 38 weeks of permission to have an abortion and have taxpayers pay for it. 0.99

00:21:54.000 So a yes or no on the Lindsey Graham bill?

00:21:56.000 I think I've answered it very clearly three times, Lisa.

00:21:58.000 Okay, all right.

00:21:58.000 Thank you, Mr. Ott.

00:22:00.000 Attorney General, you have frequently stated your belief that abortion should be safe and legal.

00:22:06.000 Do you support any limits on when a woman can have an abortion?

00:22:09.000 Please explain in 60 seconds.

00:22:11.000 Two different monitors?

00:22:12.000 What do I support?

00:22:12.000 I support on Roe v. Wade.

00:22:14.000 That was the law of the land for 50 years.

00:22:17.000 He celebrated when it fell down and I would fight to re-establish on Roe v. Wade.

00:22:22.000 That's what I run on.

00:22:24.000 That's what I believe.

00:22:25.000 And I've always believed that the choice beleans women and their doctors.

00:22:29.000 And he believes that the choice should be with him.

00:22:32.000 That's not true.

00:22:32.000 I support Roe v. Wade.

00:22:33.000 legislators all across this nation. I do respect the policy.

00:22:35.000 I must correct that. Once again, he's misrepresented what I've said, but he also said

00:22:39.000 something very dishonest. On this debate stage, he said very specifically in his primary

00:22:44.000 debate when he was still debating that he would support 38 weeks of mandated rules by the

00:22:50.000 federal government that would prevent any state from blocking it. So that's not Roe v.

00:22:55.000 Wade. That's not true. I support Roe v. Wade. That's the simple. John, you said specifically

00:22:59.000 you would support a federal Mr. Fetterman, turning to you, we have a follow-up question.

00:23:04.000 Would you support allocating federal funds to transport women who live in states where abortion is banned to states where they can get one, and why?

00:23:08.000 We must continue on. Mr. Federman, turning to you, we have a follow-up question.

00:23:13.000 Would you support allocating federal funds to transport women who live in states where

00:23:18.000 abortion is banned to states where they can get one, and why? 30 seconds.

00:23:22.000 I would.

00:23:25.000 Because I believe abortion rights is a universal right for all women in America.

00:23:25.000 I would.

00:23:32.000 I believe that it, I believe abortion is healthcare.

00:23:36.000 And I believe that that is a choice that belongs with each woman and their doctor.

00:23:42.000 All right, thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:23:44.000 Turning to the next issue, Dennis.

00:23:45.000 Thank you, Lisa.

00:23:46.000 Let's turn to what has become one of the key themes of this race, fitness to serve.

00:23:51.000 For these individual questions, there will be no rebuttals allowed.

00:23:56.000 Mr. Fetterman, we begin with you.

00:23:58.000 You suffered, as you mentioned a moment ago, a stroke four days before the May primary.

00:24:02.000 Last week, you released this note from your doctor saying you can work full duty.

00:24:08.000 To me, for transparency is about showing up.

00:24:10.000 I'm here today to have a debate.

00:24:11.000 I have, you know, speeches in front of 3,000 people in Montgomery County, you know, all across Pennsylvania, big, big crowds.

00:24:14.000 Mr. Fetterman, will you pledge tonight to release those records in the interest of transparency?

00:24:20.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:24:21.000 No.

00:24:22.000 To me, for transparency is about showing up.

00:24:24.000 I'm here today to have a debate.

00:24:26.000 I have, you know, speeches in front of 3,000 people in Montgomery County, you know, all

00:24:32.000 across Pennsylvania, big, big crowds.

00:24:34.000 You know, I believe if my doctor believes that I'm fit to serve and that's what I believe

00:24:41.000 is appropriate.

00:24:43.000 And now with two weeks before the election, you know, I have run a campaign and I've been

00:24:47.000 very transparent about being very open about the fact we're in news captioning.

00:24:51.000 And I believe that, again, my doctors, the real doctors that I believe in, they all believe

00:24:56.000 that I'm ready to be served.

00:24:58.000 I didn't hear you say you would release your full medical records.

00:25:00.000 Why not?

00:25:01.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:25:04.000 Again, my Dr. L believes that I'm fit to be serving, and that's what I believe is where I'm standing.

00:25:10.000 Okay, Mr. Fetterman, thank you.

00:25:11.000 Mr. Oz, you have built a lucrative career around medicine, but you've been criticized, even by some fellow physicians, for promoting, quote, unproven, ill-advised, and at times, potentially dangerous treatments.

00:25:25.000 What is your response to that?

00:25:26.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:25:27.000 One of the great blessings of traveling around Pennsylvania is you run into people who have watched the show.

00:25:32.000 They thank me very much for giving them life-saving advice on chronic issues like high blood pressure or dealing with their anxiety.

00:25:38.000 The show did very well because it provided high-quality information that empowered people, which is exactly what I want to do when I'm a senator.

00:25:46.000 Give people the power.

00:25:47.000 Let them make decisions for their well-being.

00:25:49.000 Now, John Fetterman's approach to health is a very dangerous one.

00:25:52.000 You know what I should do?

00:25:53.000 should socialize medicine. He embraced this with Bernie Sanders, who he endorsed. The

00:25:57.000 two candidates call themselves the two most progressive people in America. When you have

00:26:01.000 socialized medicine, Dennis, you shut down the ability of people to get access to health

00:26:05.000 care. Doctors stopped practicing. There are no medications available. The lines get longer.

00:26:09.000 I wonder if they're asking him about the transition of kids that he was promoting 10 years ago.

00:26:14.000 John Federman and Oz.

00:26:15.000 This is crazy.

00:26:15.000 of kids that he was promoting 10 years ago.

00:26:18.000 And radical positions like the ones taken by John Fetterman make it too extreme to serve.

00:26:22.000 If we're going to bring balance to Washington, you've got to bring people who understand

00:26:25.000 the ramifications.

00:26:26.000 Even Joe Biden, even Joe Biden called John Fetterman's idea, I'll quote him, preposterous.

00:26:33.000 Mr. Fetterman, I'm going to let you respond in just a minute, but I have a follow up for

00:26:36.000 you first, Mr. Oz.

00:26:37.000 Did you or your company make a profit from promoting those products?

00:26:41.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:26:42.000 I never sold weight loss products as described in those commercials.

00:26:47.000 It's a television show, like this is a television show, so people can run commercials on the show.

00:26:51.000 But that's not the question.

00:26:52.000 And that's a perfectly appropriate and very transparent process.

00:26:56.000 I ruffled a lot of feathers on my show because I told people the truth, and I'm proud of that.

00:26:59.000 I'll do the exact same thing as a U.S.

00:27:01.000 Senator.

00:27:03.000 Go ahead.

00:27:04.000 But there's no way to defend what John Fetterman has done with socialized medicine.

00:27:09.000 That is a radical departure from what we in America have accepted.

00:27:12.000 I must respond to that.

00:27:13.000 John, you'll have your turn.

00:27:15.000 I must respond to that.

00:27:15.000 John, let me finish.

00:27:18.000 You must have a relationship with a doctor and a patient, and that's what I would direct patients to do.

00:27:22.000 Thank you.

00:27:22.000 Mr. Fetterman, he accused you of socialized medicine, supporting socialized medicine.

00:27:26.000 What is your response?

00:27:28.000 Again, it's the Oz rule. 0.86

00:27:30.000 He's on TV and he's lying.

00:27:31.000 I never supported any of that thing.

00:27:34.000 You know, he keeps talking about Bernie Sanders.

00:27:37.000 You know, three years ago he was on his show and he hugged him and he said, I love this guy.

00:27:42.000 You know what?

00:27:43.000 Why don't you pretend that you live in Vermont instead of Pennsylvania and run against Bernie Sanders?

00:27:48.000 Because all you can do is talk about Bernie Sanders.

00:27:50.000 Because my truth is, is that healthcare is a basic fundamental right.

00:27:54.000 And I believe in expanding that, and I believe about supporting fighting for health care, the kind of health care that saved my life.

00:28:01.000 Dennis, that was dishonest.

00:28:02.000 He explicitly supported socialized medicine.

00:28:05.000 We have a lot of topics to get to.

00:28:06.000 Lisa, you go ahead.

00:28:08.000 We are going to move on to the next topic, and this has come up earlier, and that is the issue of fracking.

00:28:13.000 Pennsylvania only trails Texas in terms of natural gas production.

00:28:18.000 Both of you have taken shifting positions on the issue of fracking.

00:28:22.000 Mr. Oz, we begin with you.

00:28:25.000 You wrote a column in 2014 calling for no fracking pending health study results.

00:28:32.000 But in a video posted on social media in March, you said, quote, natural gas guarantees high paying skilled jobs right here in Pennsylvania.

00:28:41.000 So back off, Biden.

00:28:43.000 Give us freedom to frack. 0.69

00:28:45.000 Mr. Oz, please explain that changing position.

00:28:48.000 60 seconds.

00:28:48.000 I've been very consistent.

00:28:49.000 Fracking has been demonstrated.

00:28:51.000 It's a very old technology to be safe.

00:28:53.000 It is a lifeline for this Commonwealth to be able to build wealth, similar to what they've been able to achieve in other states.

00:29:00.000 For that reason, I strongly support fracking, drilling, the piping of that natural gas.

00:29:05.000 In fact, I built a facility even in Philadelphia so we could export it to our allies and help them, the ones that are struggling now in Western Europe because of the Ukrainian war.

00:29:14.000 John Fetterman calls fracking a stain on Pennsylvania.

00:29:18.000 He says that he was signed a moratorium to ban its continued use.

00:29:23.000 He's against pipelines.

00:29:25.000 He supported the vote against the Keystone Pipeline that ended up shutting it down.

00:29:29.000 He supports Biden's desire to ban fracking on public lands, which are our lands, all of our lands together.

00:29:35.000 Extreme position on energy.

00:29:38.000 If we unleashed our energy here in Pennsylvania, it would help everybody.

00:29:41.000 Why John Fetterman is so rigidly stuck on fighting against energy companies is stunning to me because it's the jobs I want.

00:29:50.000 Tens of thousands of high-paying jobs to help Pennsylvania.

00:29:52.000 Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:29:55.000 I absolutely support fracking.

00:29:57.000 In fact, I live across the street from a steel mill, and they were going to frack to create their own energy in order to make them more competitive.

00:30:04.000 And I support that, living closer to anybody else in Pennsylvania for fracking to myself.

00:30:09.000 I believe that we need independence with energy, and I believe I've walked that line my entire career.

00:30:16.000 I believe Democrats...

00:30:18.000 Mr. Fetterman, I do have a specific question, which you can continue on this topic, but you have made two conflicting statements regarding fracking.

00:30:26.000 In a 2018 interview, you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all.

00:30:31.000 I never have.

00:30:32.000 But earlier this month, you told an interviewer, quote, I support fracking.

00:30:37.000 I support the energy independence that we should have here in the United States.

00:30:41.000 So, Mr. Fetterman, please explain your changing position.

00:30:44.000 60 seconds.

00:30:45.000 Good question and good job by her.

00:30:47.000 I've always supported fracking and I always believe that independence with our energy is critical and we can't be held ransom to somebody like Russia. 0.87

00:30:59.000 You know, I've always believed that energy independence is critical, and I've always believed that, and I do support fracking.

00:31:06.000 I've never taken any money from their industry, but I support how critical it is that we produce our own energy and create energy independence.

00:31:17.000 I must correct the record.

00:31:18.000 Just a second, Mr. Oz.

00:31:19.000 I do want to clarify something.

00:31:21.000 You're saying tonight that you support fracking, that you've always supported fracking, but there is that 2018 interview that you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all.

00:31:31.000 So how do you square the two?

00:31:33.000 Good job.

00:31:34.000 It's his truth.

00:31:36.000 My lived experience.

00:31:38.000 I do support fracking and I love fracking.

00:31:44.000 I support fracking. I stand and I do support fracking.

00:31:48.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:31:48.000 Thank you, Mr. Federman. 0.71

00:31:49.000 I'm sorry, Lisa.

00:31:49.000 Whoa!

00:31:50.000 Nice.

00:31:51.000 This is not just a statement you read.

00:31:52.000 Look, one was before the primary.

00:31:53.000 There were pictures of him siding with the Toria.

00:31:54.000 We have to move on.

00:31:55.000 But we have to get the fundamentals of the truth out here.

00:31:58.000 John Federman over and over again took positions against energy.

00:32:01.000 We have a lot of topics.

00:32:02.000 You will have a chance to have that in your closing.

00:32:04.000 One comment then.

00:32:05.000 The energy industry is living in fear of John Fetterman.

00:32:07.000 We have to move on.

00:32:08.000 We must move on, Dennis.

00:32:09.000 Onto the new topic.

00:32:09.000 Mr. Ross, we want to now turn to public safety.

00:32:13.000 Mr. Fetterman, Republicans have called you dangerously soft on crime.

00:32:18.000 The Pennsylvania State Troopers Association has endorsed Democrat Josh Shapiro for governor.

00:32:23.000 But in this race, it endorsed your Republican opponent, Mr. Oz.

00:32:28.000 What is your response to those endorsements?

00:32:30.000 And what is your response to accusations that you are, quote, dangerously soft on crime?

00:32:35.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:32:36.000 I personally chase down... I believe that I run on my record on crime.

00:32:41.000 Every criminal.

00:32:42.000 I ran to be mayor.

00:32:44.000 I ran after a guy with a shotgun.

00:32:45.000 I ran to fight gun violence and that's exactly what I did. 0.86

00:32:49.000 In working with the police and working with our community I was able to stop gun violence for five and a half years as mayor.

00:32:56.000 Ever accomplished before or since my time as mayor because I'm the only person on this stage right now that has It was successful about pushing back against gun violence and being the community more safe.

00:33:11.000 All he's done is put a plan on his website in the last 24 hours.

00:33:16.000 He has no experience.

00:33:18.000 He has never made any attempt to try to This is insane.

00:33:22.000 during his entire career except showing up for photo ops here in Philadelphia.

00:33:26.000 He voted for convicted murderers to be released from jail.

00:33:29.000 Are we supposed to translate for Fetterman?

00:33:32.000 The police from Braddock, the small town he represented, endorsed me. They supported me

00:33:36.000 because what he's saying is not true. Violence skyrocketed in Braddock. I mean,

00:33:39.000 the town wasn't in a good shape when John got there. It got worse when he was there.

00:33:43.000 People kept leaving. So of course, you're going to have all kinds of aberrations. But John,

00:33:48.000 the city was dangerous under your leadership.

00:33:51.000 And that's why I don't want to turn to you now, Mr. Ross.

00:33:53.000 This past summer, Congress passed the first gun control bill in decades.

00:33:58.000 That would not have happened without the support of the man you are running to replace Pat Toomey.

00:34:04.000 How would you have voted on that bill?

00:34:06.000 And would you continue Toomey's legacy as being one of the lead Republicans in Congress on pushing for gun reforms?

00:34:12.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:34:14.000 I have been supported by Pat Toomey.

00:34:17.000 I've enjoyed working with him.

00:34:18.000 I think he's done a wonderful job.

00:34:20.000 There are parts of that bill that I like a lot.

00:34:22.000 For example, I like the fact that there are background checks that are being strengthened now so we can make sure that people who should not have guns don't get guns.

00:34:30.000 I also like the fact that there was a lot of money invested for mental health, which is an important part of the equation.

00:34:35.000 I've been to Philadelphia.

00:34:36.000 I've done prayer vigils with black clergy leaders who are desperately trying to save the people in their community. 0.55

00:34:43.000 Half the murders in Philadelphia are committed by people under 18.

00:34:45.000 We have got to get mental health services to these people, and it's not happening now.

00:34:49.000 But part of the problem is that we have taken away the ability of police to do their job, and that's on John Fetterman.

00:34:55.000 Because John Fetterman has taken such a harsh position against them.

00:34:58.000 He's undermined them at every level.

00:35:00.000 Taken away some of their funding.

00:35:02.000 He's pushed for Krasner, who he admires tremendously, and he's spoken highly of him just this week.

00:35:08.000 He's taken his policies to a new extreme.

00:35:10.000 He's argued that people should be let out of jail without any bail, no matter what they did to get in there.

00:35:14.000 He's argued to release one-third of all prisoners.

00:35:17.000 One-third of all prisoners, out of touch.

00:35:18.000 Quickly, 15 seconds, would you have voted for that?

00:35:22.000 I bet he's a Scottish Lord.

00:35:23.000 I would have tried to improve that bill.

00:35:25.000 There are things that I think most of us appreciate.

00:35:27.000 I wasn't there at the time, so I can't speak to what was possible.

00:35:30.000 But I do know there are parts of that bill that do make sense, and the ones I described

00:35:33.000 should be followed.

00:35:34.000 Let's see how it works out.

00:35:35.000 Okay.

00:35:36.000 Thank you.

00:35:37.000 Lisa.

00:35:38.000 I don't agree with him, but he should have said unconstitutional.

00:35:39.000 On to our next issue, and that is illegal immigration.

00:35:40.000 It has been a problem in the United States for decades, but it is now spiking.

00:35:44.000 U.S. Customs and Border Protection just released numbers from fiscal year 2022.

00:35:50.000 They show more than 2.7 million total enforcement actions in the U.S.

00:35:56.000 That is the most ever.

00:35:57.000 Mr. Oz, beginning with you.

00:35:59.000 Republican governors in the South have been sending migrants to Democratic-run cities and states without a plan or without any coordination.

00:36:07.000 It is certainly gaining a lot of attention, but is it an effective way to deal with the influx of migrants?

00:36:13.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:36:14.000 Listen, we have a catastrophe at the border and we should not have sanctuary cities as John Fetterman has tried to introduce.

00:36:20.000 But I've been into the parts of Philadelphia and Allentown and Reading where we have large Latino populations.

00:36:26.000 I understand the challenges of the border.

00:36:28.000 My father was an immigrant.

00:36:29.000 My mother were immigrants.

00:36:31.000 legal immigration offers us. But the completely porous, open nature of our border, which John

00:36:31.000 I hate debates.

00:36:31.000 These are fake.

00:36:37.000 Fetterman supports, has created a humanitarian crisis with cartels profiting, with human

00:36:42.000 trafficking operations. They take the money, they buy narcotics from China and bring that 0.90

00:36:46.000 into our country. And it's making every state a border state.

00:36:49.000 Pennsylvania is already a border state because we're top three in the country in fentanyl overdoses.

00:36:54.000 I can't go anywhere giving a big event where I don't meet multiple people who say their personal lives have been destroyed because of fentanyl overdoses.

00:37:03.000 Yet John Fetterman not only wants an open border, but he wants to legalize all hard drugs in America, including narcotics.

00:37:12.000 I think he's warmed up though.

00:37:13.000 I think federalism has warmed up.

00:37:14.000 Out of touch with everybody.

00:37:15.000 That radical position was tried in Oregon, which he endorsed.

00:37:19.000 50% homicide increase rate.

00:37:20.000 One moment.

00:37:21.000 I will give a 15 second rebuttal.

00:37:23.000 That is, again, the Oz rule. 0.54

00:37:25.000 That is just not true.

00:37:28.000 Here, his family's company was levied the largest fine for ingration hiring of immigrant immigrants. 1.00

00:37:40.000 And I think you should sit this one out about in terms of what a secure border.

00:37:44.000 What did he even just say?

00:37:45.000 How long ago was the stroke?

00:37:46.000 A couple months ago.

00:37:47.000 It was in May.

00:37:48.000 May?

00:37:48.000 That's insane, man.

00:37:49.000 The southern border is secure, yet we are seeing an unprecedented number of migrants crossing.

00:37:56.000 Is the border secure?

00:37:58.000 And if not, what would you do to fix what both parties are calling a crisis?

00:38:03.000 You have 60 seconds, Mr. Fetterman.

00:38:07.000 I believe that a secure border can be compatible with compassion.

00:38:13.000 I believe we need a comprehensive and bipartisan solution for immigration.

00:38:17.000 That's what I believe.

00:38:18.000 I don't ever recall in the Statue of Liberty did they say, you know, Take our tired huddle masses and put them on a bus and use cheap political stunts about them.

00:38:28.000 I believe we have to develop a comprehensive and bicartisan solution.

00:38:32.000 Bicartisan?

00:38:33.000 To address our issue here for immigration here in our nation. 0.99

00:38:37.000 The memes tomorrow are going to be insane.

00:38:39.000 There's so much content.

00:38:41.000 Everything he says is going to be a meme.

00:38:43.000 They're going to make songs about it.

00:38:45.000 Turning out to foreign policy.

00:38:46.000 This is sick.

00:38:48.000 What do you believe is the greatest foreign threat to the United States of America?

00:38:52.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:38:53.000 Dr. Oz.

00:38:56.000 I believe, right now, is China.

00:39:00.000 I believe China is not our friend and I believe that we can't be able to push back and we need to stand against China. 0.80

00:39:07.000 And I believe that Dr. Oz has chosen to manufacture all of his merchandise on his name on it in China.

00:39:14.000 Which one of us on this stage is going to stand up against Mr. Ross, what do you believe is the greatest foreign threat to the United States of America?

00:39:23.000 to make sure that we address China and make sure that we know that it's not our friend. 0.99

00:39:28.000 Mr. Rice, what do you believe is the greatest foreign threat to the United States of America?

00:39:32.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:39:33.000 The fact that our country is not projecting strength.

00:39:36.000 Take, for example, what we're doing with Iran.

00:39:38.000 In order to try to get them to give us a little oil so we can deal with the catastrophe that Russia has caused, we have gone to them and tried to sign a deal that would allow them once again to have the nuclear power to blow up Israel, which they promised they would do. 0.96

00:39:53.000 John Fetterman supports that deal.

00:39:55.000 It doesn't make any sense for America to treat our enemies better than our allies.

00:39:59.000 We have to message with our strong voice and the energy we have in our country

00:40:03.000 that we have control over our future.

00:40:05.000 And the best way for America to establish its dominance is to unleash the energy here in Pennsylvania

00:40:10.000 and across the country.

00:40:11.000 By not doing that, not only do we cause all kinds of problems

00:40:15.000 with local jobs and inflation, but we're destroying our ability to remain energy dominant

00:40:20.000 and we're not able to become allies like we should be for countries like European nations,

00:40:25.000 which are going to struggle with their coldest winter ever.

00:40:28.000 It's the best way to punch Putin back and to teach China a lesson is American energy to reign 0.85

00:40:32.000 supreme.

00:40:33.000 And John Fetterman doesn't like American energy and they are scared of him.

00:40:37.000 They know they can't trust him.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, he's calling him Mr. Oz, but he's a doctor.

00:40:40.000 He's literally a doctor.

00:40:40.000 Oh, look at that!

00:40:41.000 Trump wins!

00:40:41.000 to onto our next issue. In our recent next hour poll, a hypothetical rematch between Joe Biden and

00:40:47.000 Donald Trump in 2024 would be a statistical tie in Pennsylvania. 46% of people said they would vote

00:40:55.000 for former President Trump, 45% for President Biden. Mr. Oz, would you support a Trump 2024 run

00:41:02.000 and why 60 seconds? Mr. Oz, what's up with that?

00:41:04.000 I'll support whoever the Republican Party puts up.

00:41:07.000 And I have reached out across the aisle on my campaign because I want to bring balance to Washington.

00:41:13.000 And I've tried to work with Democrats.

00:41:14.000 and Republicans, people in the middle, people on shore, people who forgot, people who got

00:41:18.000 angry with where their party was headed.

00:41:20.000 I want to bring us together to make this country do what it's always been able to do, unify,

00:41:24.000 not divide, and address the problems as a surgeon, because in the OR that's what I do.

00:41:28.000 I just fix the big problem in front of me.

00:41:30.000 John Fetterman, however, cannot go to Washington and work with the other side because he doesn't

00:41:34.000 get along with his own side.

00:41:36.000 He criticized Joe Biden for not spending enough money and not sidling up close enough to Bernie

00:41:41.000 He says he won't work with Joe Manchin.

00:41:43.000 He said, if you like Joe Manchin, don't vote for me.

00:41:46.000 So if you're picking fights with your own party, you're not going to be able to reach across the aisle to the other side.

00:41:51.000 His extreme positions have made him untenable for Republican lawmakers.

00:41:55.000 We need to send someone to Washington who understands the importance of balance, sensible decision-making, and a common-sense approach to the challenges that we all face.

00:42:03.000 That's not John Fetterman.

00:42:04.000 Mr. Oz, Donald Trump has supported you.

00:42:08.000 He has endorsed you.

00:42:10.000 Why won't you fully commit to supporting him in 2024?

00:42:13.000 Oh, I do.

00:42:15.000 I would support Donald Trump if he decided to run for president.

00:42:18.000 But this is bigger than one candidate.

00:42:19.000 This is a much bigger story about how we are going to build a bigger tent to let more Americans feel safe.

00:42:25.000 Are you concerned about the ongoing legal investigations involving the former president?

00:42:29.000 30 seconds, sir.

00:42:30.000 I haven't followed them very carefully.

00:42:32.000 I've been campaigning pretty aggressively.

00:42:34.000 They'll work themselves out.

00:42:35.000 I have tremendous confidence in the American legal system, and I believe law and order will reign supreme.

00:42:39.000 But speaking about that topic, there's one person on this stage who's broken the law, we believe.

00:42:43.000 John Fetterman took a shotgun, chased a...

00:42:46.000 You're an American man, and she put the gun, apparently, according to that man, to his chest.

00:42:51.000 John, you weren't pulled over by the police.

00:42:53.000 They let you go.

00:42:54.000 You were the mayor at the time.

00:42:55.000 Why haven't you apologized to that unarmed, innocent black man who you put a shotgun to his chest?

00:43:01.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:43:01.000 We'll allow a 30-second response to that, Mr. Fetterman, specifically what he was saying referring to the incident in Braddock. 0.71

00:43:08.000 I made the opportunity to defend my community as the Chief Law Enforcement Officer there.

00:43:13.000 Everybody in Braddock, an overwhelmingly majority community of black community, all understood what happened.

00:43:21.000 You know, they understood what happened and everybody agreed that and nobody believes that it was anything about me making a split-second decision to defend our community as well.

00:43:33.000 Why not apologize?

00:43:34.000 Mr. Oz, please.

00:43:36.000 We are still with Mr. Fetterman.

00:43:38.000 Turning to you right now.

00:43:39.000 You support a Biden run.

00:43:40.000 Do you support a Biden run in 2024?

00:43:43.000 Why in 60 seconds?

00:43:47.000 That's honestly, it's up to his choice whether he, you know, and if he does choose to run, I would absolutely support him.

00:43:52.000 But ultimately, that's ultimately only his choice.

00:43:54.000 All right.

00:43:55.000 Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:43:56.000 A follow-up question on this.

00:43:57.000 Our next star poll shows 51% of Pennsylvania voters disapprove of the president's job performance.

00:44:03.000 You have publicly supported many of his policy positions.

00:44:06.000 Are there any that you disagree with?

00:44:09.000 30 seconds.

00:44:14.000 Who can type this fast?

00:44:15.000 Does not compute.

00:44:16.000 No, I just believe he needs to do more about supporting and fighting about inflation.

00:44:22.000 And I do believe he can do more about that.

00:44:24.000 But at the end of the day, I think Joe Biden is a good, good family man.

00:44:29.000 And I believe he stands for the union way of life.

00:44:31.000 And I believe that unemployment is already down to the lowest level in the last 50 years.

00:44:38.000 All right.

00:44:38.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

00:44:39.000 Dennis.

00:44:39.000 Let's turn now, gentlemen, to the issue of Social Security.

00:44:42.000 It is only fully funded through 2034.

00:44:46.000 Many Americans are wondering that they will never receive their full benefit or have to accept cuts to their benefits.

00:44:53.000 Mr. Federman, how are you going to make sure it is there for them?

00:44:57.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:44:59.000 We need to make sure that Dr. Oz and the Republicans believe in cutting Medicare and Social Security.

00:45:07.000 I believe that they have to support and stand Social Security.

00:45:14.000 I would support and stand and to support security.

00:45:19.000 Sounds like a robot.

00:45:20.000 Super weird.

00:45:21.000 Okay.

00:45:21.000 Thank you, Mr. Oz.

00:45:22.000 Same question to you.

00:45:23.000 How are you going to make sure that Social Security is available for future Americans?

00:45:27.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:45:29.000 We made a deal with the wonderful seniors of our nation.

00:45:31.000 They worked their hearts out.

00:45:33.000 They paid into a program.

00:45:34.000 No one's going to touch it on my watch except to make sure that it's stronger than it is right now.

00:45:38.000 Social Security, Medicare, which I know a lot about as a doctor, are the fundamental element of security for our seniors and they deserve to feel like they're valued by our nation.

00:45:48.000 John Fetterman, again, has been Running ads and saying that I'm against those, with no proof.

00:45:54.000 I've never said anything different than what I'm saying to you on this stage.

00:45:57.000 But in an effort to fearmonger with people who are older and can be taken advantage of, he'll run these ads.

00:46:02.000 John, it's reprehensible, but it's also reflective of your approach to doing these things.

00:46:06.000 You haven't shown up on the campaign trail.

00:46:08.000 You haven't answered questions from voters, not once on the campaign trail.

00:46:11.000 You haven't answered questions from media, once on the campaign trail.

00:46:15.000 You know, just to show off that you could do it.

00:46:17.000 And this is the only debate I could get you to come to talk to me on, and I had to beg on my knees to get you to come.

00:46:22.000 And if it wasn't for Dennis probably getting involved, I don't think it would have happened.

00:46:25.000 Seniors need to know more about your radical left positions, and I need to be able to tell them about my positions.

00:46:30.000 That's what democracy is built on.

00:46:32.000 We exchange ideas, the voters decide.

00:46:34.000 You have hidden from them.

00:46:35.000 Mr. Oz, I'm going to let you have 15 seconds in a moment, Mr. Fetterman, but can you give us a specific example of what you would do to protect Social Security?

00:46:42.000 Well, for one, we have to make sure that it adequately increases with the higher inflation rates that we have.

00:46:47.000 So we've got to make that 4% of wasted money that right now is in the budget redirected appropriately.

00:46:53.000 And one of the first places that I would use it is Social Security and Medicare.

00:46:56.000 And here's the reason.

00:46:58.000 One of the worst things we can do to our people is give them bad quality care.

00:47:03.000 And so if you have...

00:47:05.000 If you have people who are not going to see a doctor, for example, because they can't afford it, they'll get sicker.

00:47:09.000 Bad medicine means more costs.

00:47:11.000 No one benefits.

00:47:12.000 Thank you.

00:47:12.000 Mr. Federman, you said a few things a moment ago.

00:47:14.000 I want to give you 15 seconds to respond to those.

00:47:20.000 Again, I can't just say one thing other than that Dr. Oz would not support, and he would support, cutting Medicare.

00:47:29.000 He would not support.

00:47:30.000 John, why do you say that?

00:47:31.000 I've never said that.

00:47:32.000 It's absolutely a fact.

00:47:33.000 It's a fact.

00:47:34.000 You would have voted against the Inflation Reduction Act, which has dropped our prescription drugs, and he doesn't believe...

00:47:42.000 Okay, gentlemen.

00:47:42.000 We need to move on.

00:47:43.000 Lisa.

00:47:43.000 Alright, we are moving on to the topic of education.

00:47:46.000 The cost of college tuition is now out of reach for many, many families.

00:47:51.000 Our question is for both of you.

00:47:53.000 We start with Mr. Oz.

00:47:54.000 What is your plan to bring down the cost of higher education long-term?

00:47:58.000 You have one minute, Mr. Oz.

00:48:00.000 I've worked in academic medical centers my whole life, so I'm in higher education.

00:48:04.000 And I can tell you, the reason that prices have gone up six-fold in the last 40 years is not because the education quality is better.

00:48:11.000 We've added extra layers of middle-level individuals who don't actually improve the quality education, in my opinion.

00:48:18.000 There's a lot of expenses now incurred by these institutions, and it's not right for the American people to be stuck with the bill.

00:48:24.000 I would push them to offer more electronic classes.

00:48:27.000 Half the kids don't live on campus anyway.

00:48:29.000 John Fetterman's approach, however, is not to deal with the unnecessarily high cost,

00:48:33.000 but just to pay it.

00:48:34.000 So if you want to pay students who didn't pay their loans back,

00:48:37.000 basically what John Fetterman and Joe Biden are arguing for is for plumbers

00:48:43.000 who didn't go to college and couldn't, for a bunch of reasons, afford it,

00:48:46.000 to pay the bills of lawyers who went to graduate school and haven't paid their debt back.

00:48:50.000 I don't think that's right for the American people.

00:48:53.000 We want a fair system.

00:48:55.000 Drop the cost down by pushing for more value for the money we're spending, and then ensure there's a high-quality education that lets people make a living when they graduate.

00:49:02.000 All right.

00:49:03.000 I will allow a 15-second rebuttal specifically on the issue of student loan debt, which Mr. Oz was referring to.

00:49:09.000 Mr. Fetterman.

00:49:10.000 Again, Dr. Oz, you know, loves free money when it's a half a million dollar tax break on one of his, you know, homes down in a ranch in Florida.

00:49:20.000 And whether it was a $50 tax break, you know, about his farm in Montgomery County.

00:49:25.000 So it's about supporting and helping, you know, young earners, excuse me, young, young, young, you know, students to give them a break.

00:49:37.000 I believe that that supporting uh all right let me just ask specifically

00:49:45.000 student loan debt the debt reminds me of breaking bad he said fifty dollar tax break fifty

00:49:50.000 bucks everybody would be happy with that do you support that again i i do absolutely start up with

00:49:55.000 again like a little blow them up belly it's about helping young learners you know be able to get a

00:50:01.000 better start you know getting in the start of their life

00:50:05.000 And I do believe that, and I believe a majority of Americans support that as well, too.

00:50:10.000 Helping young learners.

00:50:12.000 All right, Mr. Fetterman, I want to ask you the same question that I asked Mr. Ozen.

00:50:16.000 What is your plan to bring down the cost of higher education long term?

00:50:20.000 You have one minute.

00:50:22.000 I don't think he didn't answer the question whatsoever.

00:50:26.000 I did answer the question.

00:50:27.000 Mr. Haas, please give him a moment.

00:50:29.000 No, you didn't.

00:50:30.000 I fundamentally believe that every quality public university education should be very Affordable in every state.

00:50:41.000 And I think that needs to be a significant investment, you know, to make sure that anyone be able to afford to go to get a four-degree university degree, you know, at Penn State or any state schools to make it much more affordable.

00:50:56.000 And that means a significant investment to make sure and create it affordable that every family can afford.

00:51:04.000 How exactly, Mr. Fetterman, do you propose doing that to make it more affordable for families?

00:51:11.000 I just believe.

00:51:12.000 I just believe providing the resources to reduce the tuition to allow families to be able to afford it.

00:51:22.000 All right, we have a follow-up question.

00:51:24.000 This one now is for both of you.

00:51:26.000 This is from NewsNation viewer Anne Andrews, a registered nurse from Conneautville near Erie.

00:51:32.000 Anne is a vocational educational instructor for a university and a practicing registered nurse.

00:51:39.000 If you were elected, could you please tell me what you would be doing for vocational education in the state of Pennsylvania as well as our nation?

00:51:48.000 So, Mr. Oz, if elected, what would you do for vocational education?

00:51:52.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:51:53.000 I visited vocational schools.

00:51:54.000 I have an answer.

00:51:55.000 But, John, because obviously I wasn't clear enough for you to understand this, there's no question that cutting out the middle levels of higher education and providing digital programs would reduce the cost of education.

00:52:05.000 It's a concrete set of ideas that I'd like to move on.

00:52:07.000 With regard to vocational education, this is really important.

00:52:10.000 for us to allow our trade unions to get closely linked, more closely linked with

00:52:15.000 the vocational schools. I was in a vocational school in Westmoreland

00:52:19.000 and they have about a thousand kids. They could take two thousand kids. 0.95

00:52:22.000 Funding those programs is the smartest way to invest our tax dollars.

00:52:26.000 We'll turn up twice as many children who have a job as soon as they graduate.

00:52:30.000 It supports our trade unions who want those kids in their positions anyway.

00:52:34.000 It makes the whole program...

00:52:35.000 We're watching the Republicans win.

00:52:36.000 Thank you, Mr. Oz.

00:52:36.000 Mr. Fetterman, if elected, what would you do for vocational education?

00:52:40.000 You have 30 seconds.

00:52:42.000 Again, I think it's just the same way that university for degrees as well, too.

00:52:48.000 Supporting that and partnering with the unions.

00:52:51.000 And making sure that vocation training is affordable and providing the resources to make sure everyone has the opportunity.

00:53:01.000 Going to college isn't the right choice for every person, you know, but going to those kind of vocational schools, being able to create a career to raise a lot of high salary and supporting to reduce those costs are critical too.

00:53:17.000 All right.

00:53:17.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

00:53:18.000 This race is costing more than a quarter of a billion dollars.

00:53:23.000 Have called for the Supreme Court to be expanded.

00:53:26.000 Candidates, we want to know where you stand on this.

00:53:29.000 Mr. Fetterman, should the Supreme Court be expanded?

00:53:32.000 And if so, by how many justices?

00:53:35.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:53:36.000 I don't believe.

00:53:37.000 I don't stand.

00:53:39.000 I don't believe in that.

00:53:40.000 You know, I fundamentally believe that even though I don't agree with the ideological breakup Uh, of the Supreme Court.

00:53:47.000 You know, I believe it's not about changing the rules.

00:53:51.000 It's about acknowledging where we're at much the way the Republicans want to try to change the Constitution about how our Supreme Court in Pennsylvania is going to be done.

00:54:00.000 And I don't support that.

00:54:02.000 So I think it's critical that we be consistent, and I do not believe in supporting the Supreme Court.

00:54:08.000 Good answer.

00:54:09.000 Mr. Oz, same question to you.

00:54:10.000 Should the Supreme Court be expanded?

00:54:12.000 If so, by how many justices?

00:54:14.000 You have 60 seconds.

00:54:15.000 I would never touch the makeup of the Supreme Court, and I would advocate to leave it the exact same size it is.

00:54:20.000 But John Fetterman's radical positions That's true.

00:54:23.000 spilled over into what he would do in Washington.

00:54:25.000 One of the first things he has said, and he came back to the campaign trail, is that he

00:54:29.000 wanted to bust the filibuster, which means removing the brakes on the Senate overreacting.

00:54:35.000 That's a risk.

00:54:36.000 That's true.

00:54:37.000 That is true.

00:54:38.000 But if you do that, then you would free up the Democrats in the Senate without getting

00:54:41.000 the normal amount of votes to actually expand the Supreme Court, add more states, do things

00:54:45.000 that are detrimental to the well-being of the country.

00:54:48.000 So I think, on your first day back, arguing that we should get rid of the filibuster is

00:54:52.000 a dangerously radical move that would hurt Washington.

00:54:55.000 It's not in our nation's best interest.

00:54:57.000 Yeah, it would lead to a civil war.

00:54:58.000 No joke.

00:54:59.000 Thank you both very much.

00:55:00.000 All right.

00:55:01.000 At this time, we are ready for our closing statements.

00:55:04.000 You each have 90 seconds to vote for you on Election Day.

00:55:10.000 Mr. Federman, you are first.

00:55:12.000 90 seconds.

00:55:14.000 Once again, I would just like to say that my campaign is all about fighting for anyone in Pennsylvania that ever got knocked down, that had to get back up again.

00:55:26.000 I'm also fighting for any forgotten community all across Pennsylvania that ever got knocked down, that had to get back up.

00:55:33.000 You know, I've made my entire career dedicating to those kinds of pursuits.

00:55:38.000 I started as a GED instructor back in Braddock over 20 years ago because I believe it's about serving Pennsylvania, not about using Pennsylvania for their own end interests as well.

00:55:53.000 To me, careers are refilled Uh, by your real underlying values.

00:56:00.000 And my values have always been about fighting for forgotten communities all across Pennsylvania.

00:56:05.000 All right.

00:56:06.000 Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

00:56:07.000 Mr. Oz, your final thoughts, 90 seconds.

00:56:10.000 I've loved traveling the four corners of the beautiful commonwealth and I've heard your problems.

00:56:15.000 I'm a surgeon, doctor, I listen to what you say and I'm trying to help address them today.

00:56:19.000 I've talked to seniors worried their social security checks wouldn't go far enough with the raging inflation.

00:56:25.000 I've talked to couples want to make their first down payment on a new house and they can't afford it anymore because of interest rates.

00:56:30.000 I've talked to families... You want to cut social security! 0.88

00:56:33.000 Mr. Fenneman, it's his turn for his closing.

00:56:35.000 I've talked to families worried about fentanyl showing up in their mailbox and literally taking the lives of their children who they find blue in bed.

00:56:43.000 I've talked to families who won't let their kids go outside because of the crime wave that's been facilitated by left radical policies like the ones John Fetterman has been advocating for.

00:56:52.000 But here's the deal.

00:56:54.000 None of this has to happen.

00:56:55.000 This is all very addressable.

00:56:56.000 I'm a surgeon.

00:56:57.000 I'm not a politician.

00:56:59.000 We take big problems, we focus on them, and we fix them.

00:57:01.000 We do it by uniting, by coming together, not dividing.

00:57:06.000 And by doing that, we can get ahead.

00:57:08.000 But I've got one question to challenge you with.

00:57:09.000 Just one question.

00:57:10.000 If you take what I'm saying to heart, ask yourself this and others in your family.

00:57:15.000 Are you unhappy with where America's headed?

00:57:18.000 And if you are as well, then I'm the candidate for change.

00:57:18.000 I am.

00:57:23.000 I'm a living embodiment of the American dream.

00:57:25.000 I believe we're the land of opportunity, the land of plenty.

00:57:27.000 I believe we can balance a budget without recklessly spending.

00:57:30.000 I believe we can have an unleashed energy policy that helps us all.

00:57:33.000 I believe that we can have safe city streets and a secure border so legal immigrants can come across, but you shut the fentanyl out.

00:57:39.000 I believe we can give parents choice in where their kids go to school.

00:57:42.000 We can have affordable health care.

00:57:43.000 But most of all, I believe in you.

00:57:45.000 And if you can do this together, and we can, I would ask for your vote on Election Day.

00:57:50.000 God bless you.

00:57:51.000 We do have one final question, an important issue in Pennsylvania.

00:57:54.000 The eyes of the state are on this debate tonight, but on Sunday they will be on Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia as the state's two NFL teams go head-to-head.

00:58:02.000 Mr. Fetterman, Steelers or Eagles, and why?

00:58:06.000 Eagles.

00:58:10.000 Clearly, always for the Steelers.

00:58:12.000 Mr. Oz.

00:58:13.000 I'll be at the game rooting for my Eagles.

00:58:16.000 Fly, Eagles, fly.

00:58:18.000 Gentlemen, thank you both so much.

00:58:20.000 This does conclude our debate.

00:58:25.000 That's really going to be important at the voting box this election.

00:58:29.000 I'm sorry, that was really hard for me, you guys.

00:58:33.000 I wanted so hard just to scream every time Fetterman spoke because he wasn't saying things.

00:58:40.000 And this is the important point about Fetterman and Biden.

00:58:43.000 Is it my job to translate for you what he's saying?

00:58:47.000 What, what, what, what, Baleen?

00:58:50.000 He said, Baleen?

00:58:51.000 Like, yo, we make fun of Trinidad Shabbat, of pressure, Batacaf, care, Nexmo, rest, et cetera, et cetera.

00:58:56.000 Yo, he's got, I think, like 15 new words in that.

00:58:59.000 At least.

00:59:00.000 And it's no, it's the representative's job to translate your feelings into policy.

00:59:04.000 It's not your job to translate the representative.

00:59:06.000 I like to make up new words, but this is on another level, even far beyond me.

00:59:09.000 Well, it's the machine.

00:59:10.000 It's the party of the machine, and they put people forward because the candidate doesn't matter.

00:59:15.000 It's the machine that's behind them.

00:59:16.000 Yeah, that's absolutely true.

00:59:17.000 The big money behind it.

00:59:19.000 Gigginder says, am I the only one to find the Dr. Oz and medically disabled Fetterman debate ironic?

00:59:25.000 You know, I will say this, because we have a bunch of stuff we can talk about.

00:59:28.000 I want to talk about Kanye for sure.

00:59:31.000 This was Dr. Oz.

00:59:33.000 I think he did a decent job.

00:59:35.000 I was surprised he actually answered some of these questions.

00:59:37.000 Fetterman didn't seem to understand what was going on.

00:59:40.000 No joke.

00:59:41.000 It's not just that he needs the machine.

00:59:44.000 So you'll notice there were two monitors.

00:59:46.000 One was transcribing and one was delayed transcribing.

00:59:48.000 Probably because he has to look back and forth if he misses something.

00:59:52.000 But how many times has Oz gotta say, like, I'm not gonna cut Social Security, and then Fetterman just goes, HE'S GONNA CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!

00:59:58.000 It's almost like he couldn't understand what was being said.

01:00:00.000 When Oz was like, I'm going to digitize portions of our education system and get rid of the administrative staff bloat, and then Fetterman was like, you didn't even answer the question.

01:00:07.000 He's like, I did, I said I'm gonna, and like, repeated the answer.

01:00:11.000 That was just, I was devastated.

01:00:13.000 I don't know if there's enough words to describe or an effective word to describe how painful that was.

01:00:16.000 They clearly coached Federman.

01:00:18.000 He had some canned lines that he put in there.

01:00:20.000 He had practiced saying Roe V. Wade like 4,000 times.

01:00:24.000 So he had, you know, they gave him some coaching and then thought they could let him loose, but it just didn't work.

01:00:28.000 What's up with him saying words the same way every time?

01:00:32.000 Roe V. Wade.

01:00:33.000 Because I support Ro-V-Wade and I'm for Ro-V-Wade. 1.00

01:00:38.000 It was almost like, you ever listen to those automatic voice things where it's like, hello, you have reached.

01:00:45.000 And it's because the word was recorded one time and then the program spliced them together so it like doesn't.

01:00:50.000 That's what it sounded like.

01:00:52.000 That to me was nuts.

01:00:53.000 What we were watching right there is the Republicans winning the Senate.

01:00:55.000 I gotta say, I'm not a huge fan of Dr. Oz.

01:00:57.000 I mean, I don't hate him.

01:00:59.000 He got my vote.

01:01:00.000 If I had to vote in that election, man, Oz all the way, dude.

01:01:02.000 He's laser focused compared to the other option.

01:01:05.000 We've been making fun of Dr. Oz. 0.77

01:01:07.000 I think he's a bit goofy. 0.95

01:01:09.000 But here I just watched two guys, and you know, you guys ever watch that Family Guy episode where they hire an ugly chick to stand next to Meg? 0.96

01:01:18.000 So by comparison, she looks more attractive.

01:01:20.000 That's exactly what that was.

01:01:22.000 I thought Dr. Oz was bad.

01:01:23.000 I'm sitting here thinking to myself, Kathy Barnett could be there, run in circles.

01:01:27.000 And then Dr. Oz, he didn't do bad.

01:01:29.000 He had some good answers.

01:01:30.000 His closing statement, not bad.

01:01:32.000 Not bad. 1.00

01:01:33.000 His talk about college, I think college is dumb. 0.82

01:01:36.000 But talking about, like you said, digitizing elements and getting the bloat from the administrative staff, I'm like, I actually like that. 0.94

01:01:42.000 And then Federman's just like, you didn't even say anything!

01:01:44.000 And it's like, whoa dude.

01:01:46.000 Look, normally in politics, Donald Trump, let's say you got Trump and Biden or something,

01:01:51.000 or no Biden's not a good example because he's very similar.

01:01:54.000 But let's say you've got like, you know, guy A, guy B. One guy might say like, I'm going

01:01:58.000 to lower gas prices by doing a tax holiday.

01:02:01.000 The other guy says, you're not even proposing a real plan to lower prices.

01:02:03.000 That's an argument, right?

01:02:05.000 Because you can argue that a tax holiday is not permanent, and then everyone argues.

01:02:08.000 When Fetterman says you didn't answer it, it just sounds like he's unable to comprehend what's being said next to him.

01:02:14.000 But I want to warn everybody.

01:02:16.000 We're all saying, like, I just said we're watching the Republicans win the Senate.

01:02:20.000 They voted for Biden!

01:02:21.000 They voted for Biden despite Trinidad and Neshat with the pressure and all that stuff.

01:02:24.000 Actually, he may have said that after the campaign or whatever.

01:02:27.000 But the point is, we all knew Biden was hiding in the basement.

01:02:30.000 We knew he wasn't going to campaign.

01:02:31.000 And maybe that's why.

01:02:33.000 Maybe the Democrats knew that if Biden went out and actually tried to debate more than a few times or campaign, It would be endless commercials of gibberish, garbled nonsense, and that's why they don't have him do it.

01:02:44.000 He kept calling a lid and hiding.

01:02:45.000 I was wondering if that was, like, the technique.

01:02:47.000 If they make people feel bad for him, literally feel so bad for him, like, oh, well, we'll just give it to him.

01:02:51.000 I was going to ask you if you think that was even, like, a thing they would try.

01:02:51.000 I don't know.

01:02:54.000 I have no idea, but like I said, you know, I just looked it up.

01:02:56.000 Half of, you know, A quarter of a billion dollars, rather, in this race. 1.00

01:02:59.000 $250 million.

01:03:02.000 You know there's 10,000 people polling this, all sorts of consultants, and they've come out with, they think they can win this.

01:03:10.000 They obviously think that they can win this, and after this, I don't know, but they think he's the way to go.

01:03:15.000 I'm imagining some campaign PR guy who's sitting in the office smoking a cigar, and he goes, Fetterman.

01:03:23.000 And they're like, what, are you kidding?

01:03:25.000 The dude just had a stroke.

01:03:25.000 He's like, trust me.

01:03:27.000 And then it's like this radical plan where he's like this city slicker salesman.

01:03:32.000 He's like, people are going to want to vote for the guy who can't talk straight.

01:03:35.000 You're mad.

01:03:36.000 We're going to lose this.

01:03:37.000 And then they're going to pull out a victory somehow.

01:03:39.000 I wouldn't be surprised. 0.99

01:03:40.000 I don't remember what it was, but when Bush was George W. Bush was president, I remember seeing some comedy sketch where the joke was he's folksy and an idiot in public, Fetterman. 0.98

01:03:40.000 They did that joke. 0.98

01:03:49.000 And then behind the scenes, he's like Mr. Burns or something like ridiculous, intelligent. 0.54

01:03:53.000 Well, the gag we've brought up a couple times is that, like, Joe Biden's on stage. 0.81

01:03:57.000 He got lost recently.

01:03:58.000 He's like, where are we going?

01:03:59.000 And then as soon as he walks behind the curtain, he stands up straight and he goes, all right, let's get back to work, ladies and gentlemen.

01:04:05.000 Did they believe it?

01:04:06.000 They believed it, sir.

01:04:08.000 Good.

01:04:09.000 If people actually thought I was of sound mind, I'd be going down with Hunter Biden at the same time.

01:04:13.000 What if there was like a pollster being like, oh, a lot of people are getting strokes nowadays.

01:04:17.000 That's relatable.

01:04:18.000 Let's invest in this guy.

01:04:20.000 And again, a quarter billion dollars.

01:04:23.000 That's a lot of money that we're talking about here.

01:04:25.000 And again, if you invest that much, you think you're going to let someone quit halfway?

01:04:29.000 No, that's money down the drain.

01:04:31.000 So I think, you know, this poor guy is being pushed out there.

01:04:34.000 Obviously, when you have a mental uh... injury when you when you have a severe brain injury

01:04:38.000 you need to rest you need to take it easy you shouldn't be out on the debate

01:04:42.000 stage with what new york times is calling the most watched debate of this

01:04:46.000 political season wow this is this is not okay and it's not good to watch i felt

01:04:49.000 uncomfortable watching it

01:04:51.000 and this is truly a disservice not only to the people of pennsylvania but the people of

01:04:56.000 the united states i want to believe

01:04:58.000 i want to believe that come tomorrow come the day after tomorrow when the polls roll in

01:05:03.000 the polling is gonna flip oz is gonna take the lead and with the with the all

01:05:07.000 already by some of the polling system we're gonna be looking at oz winning

01:05:11.000 Again, I find Oz a little bit goofy, but hey.

01:05:14.000 Better than Federman for a lot of reasons.

01:05:15.000 I want to believe it!

01:05:16.000 But come on, guys.

01:05:17.000 They voted for Biden.

01:05:18.000 Isn't there a strong possibility people watched that and said, don't know, don't care?

01:05:21.000 Well, the thing is, people really didn't like Trump.

01:05:23.000 That's what Biden had, his ace in the hole.

01:05:26.000 And people don't really dislike Oz.

01:05:28.000 They might, you know, have some issues here and there with him.

01:05:30.000 But Trump evoked the ire in humans.

01:05:34.000 And no one come before that I've ever seen.

01:05:36.000 I think the reason Trump may have endorsed Oz is because people do like him.

01:05:40.000 And his attitude was like, look, Oz is a celebrity.

01:05:42.000 He's a people person.

01:05:43.000 He's a people pleaser.

01:05:44.000 And we're politicos.

01:05:45.000 So we are like Kathy Barnett was the right option.

01:05:48.000 But Trump, I mean, Trump knows his stuff.

01:05:50.000 He's probably thinking PR wise.

01:05:52.000 You've got a famous TV doctor.

01:05:55.000 Or Kathy Barnett, who we respect more, but she's very much hyper-political. 0.64

01:05:59.000 Take policy out of it.

01:06:00.000 Think of what a normal person who doesn't know anything about politics thinks after seeing this.

01:06:05.000 There's a guy.

01:06:05.000 I respect him.

01:06:07.000 He's polished.

01:06:08.000 He's clearly articulate.

01:06:09.000 He's got a med degree.

01:06:10.000 You know, I've seen him on TV.

01:06:12.000 That's him.

01:06:13.000 Okay, he's fine.

01:06:14.000 Then there's another guy.

01:06:15.000 He looks like a bub.

01:06:16.000 I feel a little bad for him.

01:06:17.000 He shouldn't be up there.

01:06:18.000 No, of course not.

01:06:19.000 He shouldn't be up there.

01:06:19.000 Do you think they put Federman on stage right because of his neck?

01:06:24.000 If they put Fetterman's stage left, the camera angle would have shown the massive growth or whatever he's got on his neck.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, they control and micromanage almost every aspect of this debate.

01:06:35.000 The questions that are specifically asked are a lot of times random.

01:06:38.000 Sometimes they're leaked to the candidate, just like we saw with Donna Brazile and Hillary Clinton.

01:06:42.000 But when it comes to the stage, the breaks, the time, everything is negotiated between the two candidates.

01:06:47.000 So it wouldn't surprise me if Fetterman said, and his campaign said, hey, we want to be on this side of the stage.

01:06:53.000 And, you know, they debate that all the time and they negotiate for those spots.

01:06:53.000 Yeah.

01:06:57.000 Someone super chatted, Basobic mentioned that if Federman wins, he's going to step down for health reasons and then give, assuming Shapiro wins the governorship, an appointment.

01:07:06.000 Wow.

01:07:06.000 Yeah.

01:07:07.000 That's what it'll be.

01:07:08.000 Someone totally uncharismatic, like a very, very dark person who couldn't win. 1.00

01:07:08.000 Interesting. 1.00

01:07:14.000 Some Goldman Sachs banker.

01:07:16.000 Some kind of ruthless corporate banker head that, of course, is just seething to just suck the blood out of the poor working-class blue-collar people of Pennsylvania, just like most politicians.

01:07:26.000 But they're literally going to appoint Mumia.

01:07:28.000 Mumia?

01:07:29.000 I don't know who that is.

01:07:29.000 Never mind.

01:07:30.000 It's a big Philly thing.

01:07:31.000 He shot a cop.

01:07:32.000 Never mind.

01:07:34.000 And there was a big controversy with Snapple and that as well.

01:07:38.000 Yeah, it's a big case.

01:07:39.000 Mumia Abu-Jamal?

01:07:40.000 Yes.

01:07:41.000 Political activist.

01:07:42.000 Yeah, that what they did in New York.

01:07:43.000 That what they did in New York.

01:07:44.000 I was just listening, and I do not want to start making fun of John Fetterman having a post-stroke hard time talking, but that what they did in New York.

01:07:51.000 Even Oz started to mesh his words because he's sitting next to Fetterman like in that state of mind.

01:07:56.000 It's crazy.

01:07:56.000 But that's what they did in New York with Kathy Hochul.

01:07:58.000 They just put her in position of power. 1.00

01:08:00.000 Yeah, and she's horrible. 0.99

01:08:01.000 Could you imagine if someone here was unable to speak or understand and we thought we would keep doing the show?

01:08:06.000 I'm sorry, guys.

01:08:08.000 I've had days where I was losing my voice, so I'm like, can't do the show.

01:08:13.000 The show comes first, and the country comes first.

01:08:16.000 The job comes first.

01:08:18.000 But I mean, what I'm saying is your health does.

01:08:21.000 I'm not going to try and do a show talking like this.

01:08:24.000 What I mean is, if someone can't do the show, you've got to put the show first and take them out.

01:08:28.000 They can't be part of it because they're going to ruin the process.

01:08:31.000 Yeah, Fetterman should not be here.

01:08:33.000 I mean, look, imagine he's standing next to, he's in the Senate, and he's standing next to McConnell or somebody, and they quickly come up and say, John, you've got to understand, we're pushing this bill because it matters the most that we get inflation down right now, so we've got to cut spending here, we've got to cut spending here, we're going to look at a 2.3% increase.

01:08:49.000 You need to get on board with this, I'm not going to ask you twice, and John goes, What?

01:08:54.000 He's going to be a terror to work with.

01:08:56.000 I would hate to be his staffer.

01:08:57.000 Do you think that when they're debating and negotiating on Senate floor, they're going to be having a big machine so that when someone walks up to him personally and says, I need you to back me on this one, a Democrat even, Democrats need to consider this for themselves.

01:09:12.000 A Democrat's going to walk up and say, John, vote yes, we need to get this bill done.

01:09:17.000 He's going to go, I believe, you know?

01:09:21.000 And then they're like, great.

01:09:23.000 And then it's going to come and he's going to go, no.

01:09:24.000 And they're going to be like, what is he?

01:09:27.000 It's like, well, you supported him, dude.

01:09:29.000 But no, that's why I think he'll step down.

01:09:30.000 John, press wrong button.

01:09:32.000 Yeah.

01:09:33.000 So if he were to win, he would immediately step down?

01:09:36.000 I mean, that sounds reasonable.

01:09:37.000 There's no way this guy can function in this job.

01:09:40.000 This is insane.

01:09:41.000 It would drive all of his compatriots insane. 0.99

01:09:43.000 All the Democrats would hate the guy.

01:09:46.000 They would loathe looking at him when he walked in, because what a mockery he's making of American law and order and the political system.

01:09:54.000 It's amazing that people even have the patience to put him on TV like that.

01:09:57.000 I know it's going to happen tomorrow, because I know it's already happening right now.

01:10:01.000 Across this great nation, there are many a memesmith sitting at their computers, clipping away, and producing mashups, songs, autotunes...

01:10:14.000 It's just gonna be insane tomorrow.

01:10:16.000 Because when you have this guy... Remember when he said recently, he was like, send me to Washington!

01:10:23.000 So I, for a po- to push, work for work! 1.00

01:10:27.000 And you're like, what did he just say?

01:10:30.000 Bro, I'm sorry, man.

01:10:31.000 I'm not trying to be mean, but the dude didn't say words.

01:10:34.000 I mean, he said words, but they don't go together.

01:10:36.000 Imagine.

01:10:37.000 We just got an hour of that.

01:10:39.000 An hour.

01:10:40.000 The Philly Enquirer is going to say he did great, though.

01:10:43.000 They're going to translate for him.

01:10:45.000 This is what they do for Joe Biden.

01:10:46.000 Joe Biden will be like, you know, inflation has got to, because it's too high.

01:10:52.000 No, they won't even put a quote.

01:10:53.000 They'll be like, Joe Biden expressed outrage over high inflation costs and promised to get the price down.

01:10:57.000 will say like, Joe Biden said that inflation was too high and that we need to get it reduced

01:11:01.000 immediately.

01:11:02.000 With ellipses?

01:11:03.000 No, they won't even put a quote.

01:11:04.000 They'll be like, Joe Biden expressed outrage over high inflation costs and promised to

01:11:07.000 get the price down.

01:11:08.000 When his quote is bad enough, where he says like, come on, man, and like the price is,

01:11:13.000 you know, very high.

01:11:14.000 Those are ellipses.

01:11:15.000 You know, Biden said, quote, you know, the prices are too high, dot, dot, dot.

01:11:17.000 We got to get them down.

01:11:19.000 But if it's too much gibberish there, I'm willing to bet this. 0.97

01:11:22.000 Tomorrow, a bunch of the papers, all Democrats supporting, aren't going to quote him directly.

01:11:28.000 They're going to say, in response to a question from Oz, Fetterman expressed X, Y, and Z. Exactly.

01:11:33.000 I have a counter viewpoint.

01:11:35.000 I think he, this is again just speculation here, is going to win, is going to become one of the biggest politicians out there, and I think there's going to be a Biden-Federman 2024 ticket that's going to absolutely take it, because what better opportunity for multinational corporations than to of course embed people In candidates that actually don't know what's going on, that could just rubber stamp all of their policies, which happens right now, according to my own personal opinion, with the Biden administration.

01:12:00.000 I think it's clear as day he's not in charge here.

01:12:02.000 The people who put him in charge, they're the ones calling the shots here.

01:12:05.000 They're the ones pushing the Great Reset.

01:12:07.000 They're the ones building back better.

01:12:08.000 They're the ones destroying the American economy and, of course, stopping domestic energy exploration and production, which is deliberately creating an energy crisis right now.

01:12:16.000 The campaign slogan for Biden-Federman 2024 is going to be like, Bertifan, Bergiv, come on, you know Shabbat.

01:12:25.000 And people are going to be like, what?

01:12:28.000 I mean, like a lot of people study how White Houses are structured.

01:12:28.000 It's funny, but it's true.

01:12:32.000 And with Trump, I mean, if he had something that happened to him, you know, everything would have been chaos because everything went up to the top.

01:12:38.000 It was very personal.

01:12:39.000 With Biden, you know, you've got all these little czars.

01:12:41.000 You've got Ron Klein, Gina McCarthy, Podesta in there as well.

01:12:45.000 If Biden goes away, the machine continues to clack because he doesn't matter.

01:12:50.000 And I think it's the same with Letterman.

01:12:51.000 He doesn't matter.

01:12:52.000 It's the machine.

01:12:53.000 I'm sorry.

01:12:54.000 I just need to stress this before we wrap up this, you know, segment.

01:12:58.000 I want you all to realize where we are as a nation.

01:13:01.000 We're at a point where one of the oldest and most prominent political parties has decided to run someone with a severe mental disability, restricting their ability to comprehend words that are said before them. 0.51

01:13:13.000 We can make it a little bit more crass. 0.94

01:13:15.000 We are at the point where the Democrats are running and have run and won with brain-damaged candidates.

01:13:22.000 I'm not saying that to dig at Fetterman.

01:13:24.000 I'm not using brain-damaged as a kind of insult.

01:13:27.000 It is a fact.

01:13:28.000 Joe Biden, I believe, had an aneurysm and he got metal plates put in his brain.

01:13:31.000 Yep.

01:13:32.000 He struggles to speak.

01:13:33.000 Fetterman recently, within the past, what was it, five months ago?

01:13:36.000 It was in May.

01:13:37.000 Had a stroke.

01:13:38.000 I feel bad.

01:13:39.000 I do not wish that on anybody.

01:13:42.000 You gotta know when to bow out, but here we are, in America, this is the point where this nation is.

01:13:48.000 A man with a severe mental disability just stood on debate stage for an hour, and there are prominent media and activists who are acting like this is good and okay, and the right person to vote for.

01:14:00.000 They may have well, in my opinion, conceded the race immediately to Oz, and I do not understand what they're hoping to gain out of this.

01:14:09.000 Oh, geez, I hope people can see reality.

01:14:12.000 I really do.

01:14:13.000 I don't know how distortive... I know drugs can really mess people up, perception-wise, and you don't see things that are happening sometimes.

01:14:20.000 Food also, I'm afraid, can do that, but I hope to God people see that debate and see it for what it was.

01:14:27.000 There was a really funny moment where he just said, I just believe.

01:14:31.000 When she was like, how are you going to get costs out of this?

01:14:33.000 I just believe.

01:14:34.000 And it's like, that sums up the Democrat position on a lot of things.

01:14:37.000 Yeah, and also randomly yelling and screaming doesn't really make you look strong.

01:14:43.000 No.

01:14:44.000 This is brutal stuff, man.

01:14:46.000 Let's talk about the Civil War that's coming.

01:14:48.000 How about that, guys?

01:14:49.000 Everyone drink.

01:14:50.000 Take a shot.

01:14:51.000 Everybody drink.

01:14:52.000 All right.

01:14:52.000 Arizona Sheriff steps up security around ballot drop boxes amid reports of intimidation.

01:14:56.000 I wanted to ask you guys about this because we have this story.

01:15:00.000 Some guys wearing bulletproof vests.

01:15:01.000 They had guns.

01:15:02.000 They're in Maricopa County and they're sitting next to some ballot drop boxes.

01:15:08.000 Apparently there's an organization that's advocating for watching these ballot boxes, and I said this was going to happen.

01:15:14.000 I said, you know, after like 2,000 mules and after a lot of these claims, people are going to go to the drop boxes and they are going to watch.

01:15:21.000 Then you're eventually going to see Antifa show up.

01:15:23.000 We've already had one woman show up and confront them. 1.00

01:15:25.000 The cops got called.

01:15:26.000 Now the sheriff is sending, I guess, security, police, to monitor these boxes.

01:15:31.000 And, uh, I don't know.

01:15:33.000 Does this escalate?

01:15:35.000 What the Bulwark wrote, and, you know, we're all big fans of the Bulwark.

01:15:38.000 They're the conservative neocons who hate Republicans.

01:15:40.000 It's weird.

01:15:41.000 They wrote that their scenario that they fear for escalation of civil war is that at a polling location on the midterms, Someone is there observing.

01:15:51.000 Someone on the right.

01:15:52.000 They're armed.

01:15:53.000 They see someone who they think is committing fraud or something.

01:15:56.000 A fight breaks out.

01:15:57.000 A gunshot rings out.

01:15:59.000 A poll worker is on the ground bleeding.

01:16:01.000 Someone films it.

01:16:02.000 That was their scenario.

01:16:03.000 My scenario is simpler.

01:16:06.000 Two guys show up.

01:16:07.000 They got bulletproof vests and they got guns.

01:16:09.000 They're watching the ballot drop box. 0.98

01:16:11.000 A leftist walks up to them and starts screaming, saying, get out of here, you're white supremacists. 0.98

01:16:15.000 A scuffle breaks out. 0.98

01:16:16.000 Nothing serious.

01:16:18.000 The police are called, and the police are forced to start pushing people back.

01:16:21.000 Nobody can vote.

01:16:23.000 The polling location is now closed, and a dispute arises as to whether or not the election can be legitimate if polling locations are being shut down.

01:16:32.000 I don't know where we go from here.

01:16:33.000 People don't have faith in these drop boxes.

01:16:36.000 And just to take it back a little bit, I think it was Philly where they had the Black Panther Party that was intimidating voters back maybe a decade ago or whatever and nothing happened.

01:16:44.000 So it goes back.

01:16:46.000 We've had scuffles at polling locations.

01:16:48.000 I think it was John Calhoun's father who took guns to the legislature to get his own district or whatever.

01:16:54.000 So fights occur in these places, but people do need to have faith.

01:16:57.000 We need cameras.

01:16:58.000 We need enforcement mechanisms to make sure that there aren't, you know, thousands of

01:17:03.000 ballots being dropped off.

01:17:04.000 It happened in Muskegon County in Michigan.

01:17:06.000 I'm hearing stuff in Wisconsin already.

01:17:08.000 You know, it's happening right now.

01:17:09.000 Yeah, I think it's happening.

01:17:10.000 I think the question, too, is which states allow ballot harvesting and which don't.

01:17:16.000 Because some do.

01:17:17.000 Well, I mean, even in Wisconsin, you know, where I served on Election Day and then helped out with that investigation later, you know, there was a Supreme Court decision there where they said, you know, you can't ballot harvest.

01:17:28.000 But I'm still hearing that people come in with bags, you object, and they don't listen to you.

01:17:32.000 So it doesn't matter if the law and the books is one thing, if there's no way for you to enforce it.

01:17:37.000 Well, I think the issue right now, depending on where this goes, is simple.

01:17:41.000 I think people should be watching ballot boxes.

01:17:44.000 I think there should be cameras.

01:17:45.000 I think there should be security.

01:17:47.000 Hold on, let me slow down.

01:17:48.000 There shouldn't be ballot drop boxes at all.

01:17:50.000 We should not have election month.

01:17:52.000 We should have election day.

01:17:53.000 It should be a federal holiday.

01:17:55.000 People should get time off to be able to go and vote and then enjoy a nice beer and pizza with their friends afterwards or whatever.

01:18:01.000 But if we're going to have any kind of polling location, then I think we should have security cameras on everything.

01:18:07.000 That's it.

01:18:08.000 The crazy thing to me is, how is it vo- the DOJ is getting involved now, calling it voter intimidation.

01:18:13.000 How is it intimidating someone that you're sitting there watching?

01:18:16.000 Like, you're allowed to be in public, you're allowed to be armed, you're allowed to wear armor.

01:18:19.000 None of that is a crime.

01:18:21.000 If they started screaming at people and chasing after them and stuff, yeah, okay, there you go.

01:18:25.000 But they're claiming that someone came up, and then some people started taking pictures of them, and they're like, that's intimidation.

01:18:31.000 And it's like, bro, you're in public.

01:18:32.000 It's a different law, but it's the same story that we had with the FACE Act, which is the Freedom to Access Clinic Entrances, which they used against abortion protesters that often would just- They're using right now.

01:18:42.000 Right, they're using right now.

01:18:43.000 But there were some Supreme Court cases, and you can't be as aggressive.

01:18:46.000 But yeah, they're still using it.

01:18:48.000 Here's another law where they creatively apply it to people to get their preferred ends.

01:18:54.000 I don't know, what do you guys think is going to happen?

01:18:57.000 Geez, you wanna go for it?

01:18:58.000 No, you go ahead.

01:18:59.000 Oh man, regarding these, I kind of agree that- I just think in general, not even just this, I think, what happens on the 8th?

01:19:05.000 Unless you create faith in the voting system as a whole, I think it's gonna slowly unravel.

01:19:10.000 And for that, it's like, I don't like digitized voting counting proprietary software, because I don't care if I'm mailing it in, handing it to a guy, putting it in a box and he's carrying it.

01:19:19.000 If it's being tallied by a machine and the code's in private, I don't know if they're flipping it 5149 behind the scenes.

01:19:25.000 I've actually seen testimony of a developer that did that.

01:19:28.000 Clint Eugene Curtis.

01:19:30.000 Clint Eugene Curtis.

01:19:31.000 I don't know if you've ever heard his story.

01:19:33.000 He wrote the software to flip the votes 51-49 for a politician.

01:19:38.000 Democrats were making these same claims that Trump supporters were making.

01:19:41.000 You see the Hillary Clinton thing already?

01:19:43.000 Hillary Clinton came out and said the Republicans are planning on stealing 2024.

01:19:46.000 It's okay.

01:19:46.000 It's okay when she does it.

01:19:49.000 I don't even care at this point.

01:19:51.000 I'm just like...

01:19:53.000 The Democrat and Republican culture, the liberal and conservative culture, it's two distinct things.

01:19:58.000 Two completely different realities.

01:20:00.000 And it's been that way for a long time.

01:20:02.000 And now you've got both sides accusing each other of cheating.

01:20:05.000 I don't care who you think is right, left, right, up, down, whatever.

01:20:08.000 The fact is, two factions think both sides are stealing the election, both sides disagree with each other's culture.

01:20:15.000 How does that resolve itself?

01:20:18.000 Seriously, to the people who think it's silly when I say things like civil war, do you think the end result is going to be that Hillary Clinton walks up to Trump and says, how could I stay mad at you, and then Trump's like, come here, and they hug?

01:20:29.000 Is it going to be like the BLM marcher with the black mask on in the Maltav sees the Trump supporter with the MAGA flag and then he drops the Maltav and goes, what have I become? 0.76

01:20:39.000 And the Trump supporters, come here, buddy.

01:20:41.000 And then they hug.

01:20:42.000 Is there a Pepsi there in Kylie Jenner?

01:20:43.000 That could work.

01:20:45.000 Do they think that Kylie Jenner is going to walk up to a BLM and Trump supporter and hand them both Pepsis? 0.96

01:20:49.000 Then they're going to both look at each other and then hug.

01:20:52.000 Seriously though, for what reason at any point would any of this de-escalate?

01:20:56.000 I'm looking for a legitimate argument.

01:20:59.000 Yeah, I don't see it.

01:21:00.000 I don't see any form of de-escalation.

01:21:02.000 I'm seeing a lot of people adding fuel to the fire.

01:21:04.000 I'm seeing this getting totally out of hand.

01:21:06.000 This building up of calling elections illegitimate has been happening for many years now.

01:21:11.000 The groundwork has been set for this.

01:21:14.000 Specifically when we look at, you know, the Trump election, the Russian collusion, And all the people coming forward saying, I don't trust this election.

01:21:21.000 I don't trust this voting box.

01:21:22.000 I don't trust this voting machine.

01:21:25.000 And I think there are some, you know, legitimate questions.

01:21:27.000 I think a lot of people are also sensationalistic and hyperbolic in a way that doesn't serve anyone's interest.

01:21:32.000 But at the end of the day, you know, that's a good question that you asked here.

01:21:36.000 And that's something that I've been thinking about for a very long time.

01:21:38.000 And I see no off road.

01:21:39.000 I see no way of stopping this train coming ahead of a major disaster inside of the United States.

01:21:46.000 The only thing that I can see that can fix this is if you do have one party, and I would say probably Republican, you know, landslide so that their side can see faith in it and then they win again and there's some kind of strong agenda that they put in place that can bring people to heel.

01:22:02.000 But if the Republicans win, the Democrats are going to say that they cheated.

01:22:05.000 Being people down is about the only way that I can see that this works.

01:22:08.000 Excuse me, wrong.

01:22:09.000 No, no.

01:22:12.000 I don't agree.

01:22:13.000 I think that if we see an overwhelming Republican victory, like Luke was saying, the Democrats will claim the Republicans cheated, the country's become fascist, and already there is this viral tweet where someone said, well, democracy is over, what are you going to do?

01:22:27.000 And someone responded with, I'm going to join the resistance.

01:22:30.000 Now look, I'm not confident the left has the ability to form any meaningful resistance, but You need to, you know, I've been harping on this because I've been reading a lot more about the Civil War.

01:22:42.000 The South was a lot of states, relatively, but not a lot of people.

01:22:47.000 It was like two to one North to South.

01:22:49.000 They were the minority, a substantial minority.

01:22:51.000 And then slave owners were an even smaller minority.

01:22:54.000 So, You know, we may think, like, Democrats might break Republican and Independent, but looking at Hillary Clinton and her cohorts and the cult members, there's a strong faction there, and they're not going to accept a Trump victory.

01:23:09.000 Now, here's a scenario to imagine.

01:23:11.000 There's a Supreme Court ruling that's coming soon that may set the precedent.

01:23:16.000 The state legislatures decide who gets the electoral votes.

01:23:19.000 I mean, that's literally what the Constitution says.

01:23:21.000 And for the longest time, the legislatures have said, oh, we'll do an election.

01:23:25.000 The people of our state vote, and then they vote for the electors to go and do it.

01:23:29.000 We don't appoint them.

01:23:30.000 But according to the Constitution, the state legislature could appoint the electors however they see fit.

01:23:36.000 It is to be determined by them.

01:23:38.000 The way the country's supposed to work, we vote for our state reps, senators, representatives.

01:23:43.000 They then represent us to the federal government.

01:23:45.000 We've slowly changed that with the popular vote for the president and with the 17th Amendment, the popular vote for the Senate.

01:23:52.000 That could change.

01:23:53.000 If this ruling goes down, imagine this scenario.

01:23:57.000 2024 election.

01:23:59.000 Donald Trump versus Joe Biden, whatever.

01:24:05.000 The popular votes come in, Biden gets it.

01:24:09.000 The statewide votes come in, Electoral College goes to Joe Biden.

01:24:13.000 But hold on there a minute!

01:24:15.000 Lawsuits are immediately filed.

01:24:17.000 Questions arise.

01:24:19.000 Poll observers, witnesses, testimony comes out.

01:24:22.000 Several states say, we cannot issue a determination at this time.

01:24:27.000 This puts the Electoral College up in the air.

01:24:30.000 Two things could happen.

01:24:31.000 We could see the House do a simple vote.

01:24:34.000 We saw this based off of House delegations.

01:24:36.000 There was a concern that in 2020, because I think there were 26 House delegations that were Republican or something like that, Donald Trump would have won if it was pushed to a House delegation vote.

01:24:46.000 With this Supreme Court ruling, something else could happen.

01:24:49.000 A state like Michigan simply says, evidence has been brought to our attention, which leads us to believe, you know, this amount of votes or that amount of votes are not correct or are illegitimate.

01:25:02.000 Therefore, we as the state legislature nullify them.

01:25:06.000 The victory goes to Donald Trump.

01:25:08.000 What would the left do in that position?

01:25:10.000 They'll say Hillary Clinton predicted this.

01:25:13.000 The extremist MAGA Republicans are stealing the country.

01:25:16.000 And then what?

01:25:17.000 Do you think they just say, well, I guess I'll go hang out at home?

01:25:19.000 This has happened before.

01:25:20.000 I mean, there've been there've been cases where states have flipped and I don't I don't see anything wrong with that.

01:25:25.000 Process per se.

01:25:26.000 I mean, you know, the whole thing about, you know, you can get into Republican form of government problems if the state legislature is not even holding an election or something like that.

01:25:35.000 But at the end of the day, there have to be processes in place to count the votes, to make sure that there's a state actor who's certifying things and sending them to the archivist and whatnot.

01:25:45.000 So I don't see a problem.

01:25:47.000 It's happened before.

01:25:47.000 I guess the main thing I'll say is I don't really see that as happening because You know, look at what happened in 2020.

01:25:53.000 Mike Pence, you know, wouldn't look under the hood.

01:25:56.000 Nobody looked under the hood.

01:25:57.000 You know, you go state after state, people don't check under the hood because they've got people beating down their door.

01:26:01.000 So I don't see that happening.

01:26:02.000 You gave Michigan as an example.

01:26:04.000 I don't see, you know, Shirky or whatever his name is, the lead at the legislature there, entertaining that sort of a thing.

01:26:12.000 You know, time and time again, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, you see weak Republican leadership that doesn't do that.

01:26:19.000 So I don't really see that as so much of a possibility.

01:26:23.000 The more thing I see is states battening down the hatches in these purple areas on behalf of blue candidates.

01:26:30.000 It's all very dubious and no one ever has their views aired out.

01:26:34.000 Nobody ever checks under the hood.

01:26:36.000 The clips are coming.

01:26:38.000 Already, I got one from Greg Rice.

01:26:39.000 Anything we can play?

01:26:40.000 The beginning, we actually missed the beginning when Fetterman said, hi, good night.

01:26:45.000 Yeah, I reposted that one, yeah.

01:26:45.000 Really?

01:26:48.000 So, Fetterman is asked to clarify whether he supports fracking.

01:26:51.000 Quote, I support fracking and I don't.

01:26:54.000 I support fracking and I stand and I do support fracking.

01:26:58.000 Great.

01:27:00.000 I love how they brought up the information and he immediately says, I never supported fracking.

01:27:04.000 It's like we literally just read on the screen that said you supported fracking in 2018.

01:27:07.000 I don't know how you're going to how you're going to debate that or like.

01:27:10.000 I think it's the other way around that he didn't support fracking in 2018.

01:27:12.000 No, I don't know.

01:27:13.000 He didn't.

01:27:14.000 I think he said he didn't.

01:27:15.000 The thing about fracking and nobody really brought it up is when they first were doing it, it was really dirty and they've advanced the chemicals that they inject in underground.

01:27:22.000 So it's a lot cleaner from what I've heard.

01:27:24.000 It was an EPA thing.

01:27:25.000 It wasn't like the workers.

01:27:26.000 It was like the runoff and stuff like that.

01:27:28.000 I just want to see someone splice his answer about, I get knocked down and I get up again.

01:27:33.000 I want to see tum-thumping.

01:27:35.000 He was appealing to the victim mindset.

01:27:39.000 Like, if you're a victim, then I'm your guy.

01:27:42.000 Victims versus surgeon.

01:27:45.000 Yeah.

01:27:45.000 I'm a surgeon.

01:27:45.000 Versus a guy who saves people's lives.

01:27:46.000 Did you know I was a surgeon?

01:27:49.000 We do surgery by bringing people together.

01:27:51.000 David Harsanyi says, if Dasha Burns was guilty of anything, it was downplaying the extent of Fetterman's problems.

01:27:57.000 And I recall all the feigned outrage.

01:27:59.000 Giselle Fetterman demanding consequences.

01:28:01.000 Dasha Burns interviewed Fetterman.

01:28:03.000 He had to use a special device, and she said that during the small talk, it wasn't clear he understood what she was saying.

01:28:11.000 And a bunch of people on the left said that it's ableist, that someone with mental disabilities and brain damage should be allowed to hold office.

01:28:19.000 And, you know, they were outraged.

01:28:21.000 And they said that she was wrong, and it was offensive, and that criticizing Fetterman was akin to criticizing someone who needed reading glasses.

01:28:31.000 Governor Abbott can't- A cursory viewing of the debate determined that was a lie.

01:28:31.000 Wow.

01:28:37.000 Dasha Burns probably could have been a bit harsher on Fetterman.

01:28:41.000 I can't believe he agreed to do it.

01:28:41.000 That was crazy.

01:28:43.000 I mean, Katie Hobbs won't debate Carrie Lake. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Fetterman could have just been like, nah.

01:28:48.000 He's up two points.

01:28:49.000 Well, I think they know the bias in the polls favors Oz, and so he had no choice.

01:28:49.000 What does he got to lose?

01:28:54.000 That was bad.

01:28:55.000 I mean, are they trying to lose?

01:28:57.000 That crossed my mind, but it was kind of a joke.

01:28:59.000 Like, is Federman a plant trying to get Oz elected?

01:29:02.000 Like, does he work for Dr. Oz?

01:29:03.000 Are we going to find out years later?

01:29:05.000 They were all his friends.

01:29:06.000 No, he's just a guy that broke, but he doesn't want to let go of what he used to have.

01:29:12.000 Maybe the reason he said, uh, you know, I support fracking and I don't, is so that the Democrats are able to make a video of him answering however they want him to answer.

01:29:23.000 Do you support fracking?

01:29:25.000 I don't!

01:29:25.000 Fracking.

01:29:26.000 I don't.

01:29:26.000 I'm sorry, I pulled a Thunderman.

01:29:27.000 Do you support fracking?

01:29:28.000 I don't.

01:29:30.000 I stand.

01:29:31.000 And then they're gonna be like, oh, they're in their own commercial saying it.

01:29:34.000 I think, I think I should have just been like, the floor is yours, John.

01:29:37.000 Speak.

01:29:38.000 Just go for it.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 I do think Oz needed a chance to explain his positions, though.

01:29:44.000 Yeah, it was enlightening to listen to.

01:29:47.000 Yeah.

01:29:48.000 We didn't get into anything else, though.

01:29:49.000 We had, you know, Kanye stuff.

01:29:51.000 What's the Kanye?

01:29:52.000 He's not a billionaire anymore.

01:29:53.000 Yeah, Kanye's net worth went from, what, $2 billion to $1 to $600 million-ish?

01:29:58.000 He's lost about three-fourths of his wealth because his Adidas deal was canceled.

01:30:02.000 Adidas canceled their... I don't even know what the deal was, but apparently it made him worth $1.5 billion.

01:30:06.000 Dude, Yeezys go for hundreds of dollars.

01:30:08.000 Easy shoes, they're called easy.

01:30:10.000 You know, I just like I've never never wore, I've seen them before and then I was just like I ordered a couple pairs

01:30:17.000 when they said they were cancelling them or whatever.

01:30:19.000 I'm like, all right, you know, whatever.

01:30:21.000 I don't think I'm gonna sell them or anything, I'm gonna put on my shelf and just be like, you know, hey, these were

01:30:24.000 a thing once.

01:30:25.000 What could have been?

01:30:27.000 The Kanye West-Lex Friedman interview was eye-opening.

01:30:30.000 I think everybody saw at least a clip from it.

01:30:32.000 I saw a little small clip.

01:30:34.000 Yeah, it was kind of worth it.

01:30:35.000 I think it was an attempt by Lex to emotionally connect with Kanye.

01:30:38.000 They were both trying to be like, hey, we don't know each other.

01:30:40.000 We both are engineers of a sort.

01:30:43.000 Let's be friends was kind of what they went into it.

01:30:46.000 And it was contentious and kind of a mess.

01:30:48.000 I didn't watch it.

01:30:49.000 I read it and it just read to me as smarmy.

01:30:51.000 Like he was talking down to Kanye and trying to play the What's the problem, man?

01:30:56.000 I agree.

01:30:57.000 Yeah, I was, I was like, there's an opportunity to have a conversation with Kanye that's, that's, that's real and asks him to, you know, explain himself better.

01:31:07.000 But I didn't, I didn't get that interview.

01:31:09.000 It felt like it was very much like, here's what the media said, so I'm going to, I'm going to argue with you about it.

01:31:13.000 And Kanye was getting frustrated.

01:31:15.000 He was like, dude.

01:31:16.000 And then Lex gave him the, do you trust me?

01:31:19.000 And Kanye was like, no.

01:31:21.000 And Lex was like, I'm devastated.

01:31:25.000 It really hurt Lex.

01:31:27.000 And it's like, I mean, at some point Lex, you gotta like be a machine, you know, it's okay.

01:31:31.000 Trust is built over generations.

01:31:33.000 It doesn't happen.

01:31:34.000 I don't trust someone I just met.

01:31:35.000 Why would you?

01:31:36.000 I wouldn't.

01:31:37.000 All right, we're going to go to Super Chats.

01:31:38.000 I don't trust anybody.

01:31:39.000 We're going to go to Super Chats because this is a special debate episode, so smash that like button if you haven't already, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

01:31:45.000 We got a very important members-only uncensored show coming up having to do with New York and a court ruling on the vaccines and vaccine mandates.

01:31:52.000 This is huge, by the way, reversing all of these firings, ordering back pay.

01:31:57.000 Devastating to those who marched in lockstep, but we'll talk about that for the members only.

01:32:02.000 So smash that like button. 0.97

01:32:05.000 Let's talk about some superchats.

01:32:07.000 Elite says, Tim, I'm from Michigan and I just watched the Whitmer-Dixon debates.

01:32:11.000 Tudor absolutely smashed her.

01:32:13.000 Do you think you could reach out and get her on?

01:32:15.000 Michigan needs a new governor.

01:32:16.000 Thanks for all you do.

01:32:17.000 I mean, that'd be cool.

01:32:18.000 I'm down to have some more.

01:32:19.000 Governor Kennetts, we've had Kerry Lake, we've had Doug Mastriano.

01:32:21.000 They were both awesome.

01:32:24.000 I think Kerry Lake could be president.

01:32:26.000 She really, really knows how to handle herself with the media.

01:32:28.000 Yeah, I would love to talk to Ms.

01:32:30.000 Whitmore, especially about her health care record when it came to, of course, putting people in nursing homes.

01:32:36.000 I think that's a big question that should be asked to her right now, and people should remember the past of how she, you know, helped murder people.

01:32:43.000 All right, AI says, Seriously, Tim, AMC's Rubicon.

01:32:46.000 You want to write that down?

01:32:47.000 You have a pen?

01:32:47.000 Yeah, what was this?

01:32:48.000 Rubicon.

01:32:49.000 It was that show.

01:32:50.000 I'll send it to you.

01:32:50.000 What's it about?

01:32:52.000 I don't remember what it's about exactly.

01:32:56.000 I'll watch it tonight.

01:32:58.000 All right.

01:33:00.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:33:00.000 says, Tim, I must say both shows last night were fantastic.

01:33:03.000 What I appreciate is that while we can all disagree on many topics, we all still are on the same team.

01:33:07.000 Unlike that of the left.

01:33:08.000 Forward the line.

01:33:09.000 Hear, hear, man.

01:33:10.000 It's important to debate and challenge your ideas.

01:33:10.000 Hear, hear.

01:33:13.000 Always.

01:33:15.000 All right, let's grab some, uh... Salty Duckling says, someone should take the Hillary Clinton conspiracy video and put it over the InfoWars background.

01:33:23.000 Oh, that's a really good idea, actually.

01:33:25.000 Yeah, that'd be funny.

01:33:26.000 But I think it'd be too insulting to Alex.

01:33:28.000 Yeah.

01:33:29.000 Yeah.

01:33:29.000 Definitely.

01:33:32.000 All right.

01:33:33.000 Rhiannon Tunnel says, I told my brother's girlfriend the Constitution technically gives me the right to keep and bear nukes.

01:33:38.000 She was horrified but had to agree I was right.

01:33:41.000 Yeah, I'm not wrong!

01:33:42.000 You know, these people- I think it was like the Young Turks, they were like, was it somebody?

01:33:47.000 I didn't say they should.

01:33:50.000 I said the right to keep and bear arms.

01:33:52.000 They didn't specify!

01:33:54.000 You know?

01:33:55.000 Like, can you have a- can you have a microwave gun?

01:33:58.000 I would imagine, yeah.

01:33:58.000 I don't know.

01:34:00.000 It's like, this is the crazy thing.

01:34:01.000 We talked about this with weapons.

01:34:06.000 When your waiter comes to you and hands you a steak knife, did he just give you a weapon?

01:34:08.000 Yeah, he did.

01:34:09.000 Yeah?

01:34:10.000 He handed you a weapon, right?

01:34:13.000 So, a reasonable person would probably be like, no, it's a steak knife for your dinner.

01:34:16.000 Aha, but what if he then whispered in your ear, that's your target, and then pointed to an old person?

01:34:22.000 Oh, now we're talking imminent threat.

01:34:24.000 That's illegal.

01:34:25.000 But see, the point is, he handed you the exact same thing.

01:34:28.000 Context doesn't change the fact that it is a weapon.

01:34:30.000 So, when it comes to keeping bearing arms, knives, microwaves, whatever, dynamite, they're all weapons.

01:34:39.000 What's not a weapon?

01:34:41.000 I suppose you could argue technically something that was not designed with the intent to cause damage to a biological or structural entity.

01:34:49.000 Yeah, but I mean, like, assault with a deadly weapon could be a rock, a heavy rock.

01:34:52.000 Yep.

01:34:52.000 Wasn't designed.

01:34:53.000 Exactly.

01:34:54.000 Cheeseburgers.

01:34:54.000 Murder burgers.

01:34:55.000 I guess whether or not it's a weapon is determined after the fact.

01:34:57.000 What if you shove a cheeseburger into someone's mouth?

01:35:00.000 Like, down their throat to block their airways?

01:35:02.000 Like, would that be assault with a deadly weapon?

01:35:04.000 I don't know.

01:35:04.000 You weaponized a cheeseburger.

01:35:07.000 I think, honestly, the fair way to classify weapons is after the fact.

01:35:10.000 Because if you have a rifle that's never been fired and it's behind a glass case, it's technically just a gun.

01:35:16.000 It's not a weapon until you use it.

01:35:18.000 Well, they do this in law.

01:35:20.000 They do categorize things ahead of time, whether it's a weapon or not.

01:35:22.000 And usually the state law includes lists of things and some descriptions.

01:35:26.000 Like a blade that's a certain length?

01:35:28.000 Things like that.

01:35:29.000 I mean, for switchblade laws or whatever.

01:35:31.000 But it's not accurate, because a small knife is a weapon.

01:35:34.000 A butter knife is a weapon.

01:35:35.000 A rock is a weapon.

01:35:37.000 In the right hands.

01:35:38.000 Or in the wrong hands.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, so we're talking about ten or so different laws.

01:35:40.000 One could be assault with a deadly weapon.

01:35:42.000 One could be possession of a switchblade.

01:35:43.000 You can make a toothbrush into a weapon.

01:35:45.000 Toothpick?

01:35:46.000 A toothbrush.

01:35:46.000 They do it all the time in jail.

01:35:48.000 Water is a weapon.

01:35:49.000 I don't think the Second Amendment protects toothbrushes, though.

01:35:52.000 I'd like to look into that.

01:35:53.000 I don't know, man.

01:35:54.000 Are knives considered arms?

01:35:55.000 Bayonets were.

01:35:55.000 Well, maybe knives are considered arms, yeah.

01:35:58.000 bayonets were. They're not, they're, well, I'm not sure that knives are

01:36:01.000 considered, well, maybe knives are considered arms. Yeah, sure. Sure. All

01:36:04.000 right. Let's, let's read some more.

01:36:05.000 This is a good one from Jen Desai, says, if Fetterman cannot communicate without a device, in an emergency where power or internet fails, he becomes a major liability.

01:36:14.000 I want you to imagine you decide Fetterman should be your rep, and he goes to DC.

01:36:20.000 And let me ask you, Democrats, do you think January 6th could happen again?

01:36:23.000 All right, I want you to imagine Fetterman standing there when a January 6th type moment happens.

01:36:29.000 What do you think that man does?

01:36:31.000 Nothing.

01:36:32.000 Look around confused, wondering who's saying what as everyone's murmuring and screaming and he's seeing people run in every direction.

01:36:38.000 And someone walks up to him and looks him in the eyes and goes, and he goes, I have no idea what's being said to me right now.

01:36:49.000 And they're saying, run, you need to run now.

01:36:52.000 And he just stands there confused, like what's happening?

01:36:54.000 Yeah.

01:36:56.000 I agree.

01:36:56.000 I feel like he's a kind of wait-and-be-told-what-to-do kind of guy in the state that he's in right now, unfortunately.

01:37:02.000 Connor Skies says, I had a stroke three years ago at age 25.

01:37:05.000 I wouldn't consider myself fit for a job this important.

01:37:08.000 Maybe a good guy, but still.

01:37:09.000 Look, man, I really am saddened by this.

01:37:11.000 I don't wish this on anybody.

01:37:13.000 It can happen to anybody.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, literally.

01:37:15.000 Same thing with, you know, these people mocking those who get like Bell's palsy or whatever.

01:37:19.000 I'm like, dude, there's a lot of things that cause Bell's palsy.

01:37:22.000 I've seen stories of people who use like wasp spray and then two weeks later they're like, oh, the chemical may have caused something rather than that.

01:37:28.000 Like, I don't know.

01:37:29.000 I just try to say like, you know, it's not...

01:37:32.000 Let's not drag people for stuff like that.

01:37:34.000 I think he should be criticized because he should not be in this position.

01:37:37.000 Totally.

01:37:38.000 He should have walked away.

01:37:39.000 And you should be able to say that.

01:37:41.000 That's the thing.

01:37:41.000 You should be able to say when someone has something that's in between them and a job, you should be able to say something about it.

01:37:47.000 Right.

01:37:48.000 And I think they try to put up these walls like you can't.

01:37:50.000 You can't even talk about it.

01:37:51.000 It's ableist.

01:37:52.000 Amber Bird says, don't forget Bill Gates declared there would be a hung election and then a subsequent civil war.

01:37:57.000 He is awfully good at destructive predictions.

01:38:00.000 Do you think this tree's good at predictions?

01:38:02.000 Uh, yeah.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, he's very good.

01:38:05.000 He's remarkable at a lot of predictions.

01:38:07.000 So he said there will be a hung election.

01:38:09.000 Well, this is, I think, relating to the civil war comment that we were talking about a couple days ago.

01:38:14.000 Bill Gates said in an interview, there will be a hung election and then a civil war.

01:38:19.000 He didn't say there could be or I hope there won't be.

01:38:21.000 He said there will be.

01:38:23.000 Yeah.

01:38:23.000 That was freaky.

01:38:24.000 Yeah.

01:38:26.000 Yeah, he also has a team that monitors people talking about him on the internet for some reason.

01:38:29.000 That's kind of weird.

01:38:30.000 If you had that much money, you'd do that.

01:38:32.000 I mean, to be fair, though, like, we have marketing people who and we do track certain terms for the show and everything.

01:38:39.000 So I don't like listen to other shows talking about me, though, you know?

01:38:43.000 But he was specifically talking about going after, quote, conspiracy theorists and individuals that are critical of him.

01:38:49.000 His quote was, political polarization may bring it all to an end, comma, we're going to have a hung election and a civil war.

01:38:56.000 That's complete insanity.

01:38:57.000 I mean, first of all... That's definitive.

01:38:59.000 Yeah.

01:38:59.000 He's just, he's just making an assumption.

01:39:02.000 Is he?

01:39:02.000 Yeah.

01:39:03.000 Or does he control it?

01:39:04.000 For all you know!

01:39:06.000 Look at that guy agreeing with us.

01:39:08.000 Yeah, we made faces early because you were like going to step on it or something?

01:39:11.000 No, I took some...

01:39:12.000 I thought you were going to crush it.

01:39:14.000 And I was like, don't do it.

01:39:15.000 Don't because, because it was on George Washington.

01:39:18.000 No, because it releases us.

01:39:21.000 I've gotten rid of them before without, without, you got to freeze them.

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 Freeze them.

01:39:25.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 I use like the duster and then they just instantly freeze and then they don't release this thing.

01:39:30.000 Yeah, the CIA bugs are everywhere.

01:39:31.000 They come back to life right away.

01:39:33.000 We're in a place where people, it's like one person's prediction versus another person's prediction and who believes who.

01:39:38.000 And if you, if enough people believe the one prediction, then they're going to start living that life to make that prediction reality.

01:39:43.000 And, you know, they're going to look back and be like, he was a prophet.

01:39:46.000 He was a prophet.

01:39:47.000 That kind of thing.

01:39:48.000 He controls people by saying it.

01:39:50.000 Lord John Einarsson says, got my spot in Scotland.

01:39:53.000 Next to you, Tim.

01:39:54.000 Awesome sponsor.

01:39:56.000 I added the word Lord because now apparently he's gone to our sponsor's website.

01:40:03.000 Who is it?

01:40:05.000 Lord John Einarsson.

01:40:07.000 Lord Einarsson!

01:40:08.000 He got his established titles.

01:40:10.000 Your newest neighbor.

01:40:11.000 Establishedtitles.com slash Tim Poole.

01:40:13.000 We're landowners in Scotland.

01:40:16.000 We were making a joke about this earlier, like, do we get air rights?

01:40:19.000 Like, do we get mineral rights?

01:40:21.000 Can I drill down into my one square foot, find oil, and then, like, build, like, a one square foot massive oil pump?

01:40:28.000 The whole machine fits into one square foot.

01:40:31.000 Hey! 0.99

01:40:31.000 The oil's mine! 0.99

01:40:33.000 We'll see.

01:40:35.000 And does that mean you can't hold office in the U.S.

01:40:37.000 anymore?

01:40:39.000 I hope not.

01:40:39.000 I've also got a title.

01:40:41.000 I'm up in the highlands.

01:40:42.000 You're up in the highlands.

01:40:43.000 Let us not come to blows.

01:40:44.000 So I looked it up.

01:40:45.000 The U.S.

01:40:45.000 doesn't grant titles and an officeholder can't accept a title.

01:40:49.000 But if you're not an officeholder and you accept it ahead of time, maybe it's good.

01:40:54.000 Alright, Justin says, Tim, please read Vandenberg Space Force Base comm squadron releasing member health information to others.

01:41:01.000 Forcing out member for identifying unauthorized network on base and going to IG.

01:41:06.000 Member supervisor worked in base IG.

01:41:08.000 Leadership culture of new branch not great.

01:41:10.000 Interesting.

01:41:13.000 Alright, Omega Rasetsu says, Tim, I would like to correct you on something you stated on your 4 o'clock segment.

01:41:18.000 The National Guard is federal, with the added step of the governor being in the chain of command.

01:41:22.000 The uniform still says U.S.

01:41:23.000 Army.

01:41:24.000 Right, but what I mean to say is, yesterday I said, you're going to get, like, California.

01:41:30.000 They have a California National Guard.

01:41:33.000 The National Guard is not, an individual is not going to want to be occupying their own neighborhood or town.

01:41:38.000 They don't want to be that person.

01:41:39.000 I mean, who would?

01:41:39.000 For the most part, some people might, you know.

01:41:41.000 And then someone said, Tim, the California National Guard won't be enforcing federal mandate in California.

01:41:46.000 And I said, right.

01:41:48.000 They're not going to send people to their own neighborhoods.

01:41:51.000 But, if they do invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy military, you may end up with people from whatever branch, who are from a specific area, being like, I will not bear arms against my home neighborhood.

01:42:04.000 Sorry, I won't do it.

01:42:05.000 So, my point was ultimately that you're going to see state divisions.

01:42:09.000 You're gonna see people in the military choose to side with their state, not because they care about their state, but because they care about where their family lives, and they don't wanna be the one pointing a gun at their friends.

01:42:20.000 That's it.

01:42:22.000 We'll see though man, I don't know.

01:42:23.000 Who knows how things play out.

01:42:24.000 History doesn't repeat, it rhymes.

01:42:27.000 Chanston Ippolito says, 23% chance for a second stroke, 0% chance to finish a sentence without sounding like a robot.

01:42:36.000 This debate is uncomfortable to watch, no different than the feeling following a Biden speech, the Republic deserves better.

01:42:43.000 The people of Pennsylvania, they can vote for their own destruction. 0.98

01:42:46.000 I mean, that's crazy man. 0.98

01:42:49.000 That's just sad.

01:42:52.000 Charles Notgiven says, my first super chat is heartbreakingly sad.

01:42:56.000 A man that is struggling to make his brain work like it used to, and another mocking him for it, saying his policies are things in his imagination.

01:43:03.000 Is that mocking Oz?

01:43:05.000 No, I think they're talking about John Fetterman, that he's become a mockery.

01:43:09.000 But I agree with that.

01:43:11.000 And I think that if he rested for a few years, that he could actually run reasonably for office, like if you let your brain recover.

01:43:18.000 But right now, it's just so soon.

01:43:20.000 That's what's crazy for me, because I had a brain injury in 2015, and it's insane to me that he would do that, like, what, how long, it was in May?

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:27.000 It's utterly insane to me that he would go into a debate on a national level and try and answer questions like that if he can't even read the prompt.

01:43:35.000 It's just, I can't even imagine, that's why he's sweating so much.

01:43:38.000 You know how he's like having to read all those things and pay attention to all this stuff?

01:43:40.000 I cannot, I do not understand how he does that.

01:43:42.000 What was the recovery like for you?

01:43:45.000 Like I said before, I think it was on the member segment, but it took me like, I thought after a year I was okay, but then after like three or four years I was like, wow, after a year I was still not recovered whatsoever.

01:43:54.000 It took me a lot longer, and I just don't, I can't even imagine.

01:43:56.000 He had a stroke, dude.

01:43:57.000 It's a whole other level.

01:43:59.000 Was it like confusion is the main problem?

01:44:02.000 Confusion, also just like being able to speak and do simple things.

01:44:06.000 I had a frontal lobe injury, so mainly like my forward planning or future planning and my emotional control was wild.

01:44:14.000 It was wildly difficult just to be able to have conversations and just keep it together in a sense, at least initially.

01:44:19.000 So he's, within a year, that dude is, I don't even know, he's definitely being pushed by people to do this, I would think.

01:44:25.000 I mean, they probably, what did you say, a quarter of a billion dollars?

01:44:27.000 Yeah, that's a lot of money.

01:44:28.000 They probably went to him and he was probably, I wouldn't be surprised if he was like, I'm sorry, I can't do this.

01:44:34.000 In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he went, I'm sorry, I can't, and they said, we have put a quarter of a billion dollars.

01:44:43.000 But is that between Oz and him or just him?

01:44:45.000 Oz and him.

01:44:45.000 But see, I don't know about that because you don't run for office if you're not a narcissist.

01:44:51.000 I mean, like a politician, dislike a politician.

01:44:53.000 They all think they can do it.

01:44:55.000 They all think they're great.

01:44:56.000 So I mean, I hope that he has that.

01:44:58.000 And that's dark if they did that.

01:45:00.000 But really, it's more likely in my mind that he's like, you know, I can do this.

01:45:03.000 I can do this. 0.98

01:45:05.000 A lot of politicians are also sociopaths. 0.97

01:45:07.000 Yeah. 0.79

01:45:08.000 So that's why we love them.

01:45:10.000 Mostly Democrats.

01:45:12.000 And then largely Republicans, but there's a handful of good Republicans.

01:45:14.000 Oh, sure.

01:45:15.000 Because for whatever reason, they have some like libertarian, more libertarian minded people, more America first type people.

01:45:21.000 Yeah, it's important to love yourself and have faith in yourself, but not cross the border of narcissism.

01:45:27.000 I've met some genuinely decent politicians.

01:45:29.000 I think Joe Kent is one.

01:45:31.000 Jeff Sessions, definitely a gentleman.

01:45:33.000 But for the most part, and I would think Fetterman too, I mean, for the most part, Ah, certainly.

01:45:40.000 I.M.

01:45:40.000 says, the Dems are pure evil for making this man stand on the stage in front of the world.

01:45:45.000 It hurts my heart in all honesty to watch this tragedy.

01:45:47.000 I kind of agree, honestly.

01:45:50.000 But you know, it has to happen.

01:45:51.000 In this environment, Joe Biden as the president, if he's really suffering cognitive decline, we have to confront this head on.

01:45:57.000 I mean, we briefly turned the debate off.

01:45:59.000 I was like, we can't do this.

01:46:00.000 This is insane.

01:46:01.000 He's not saying anything. 0.99

01:46:03.000 It's just garbled nonsense. 0.92

01:46:06.000 People want to hear it. 0.93

01:46:08.000 People need to hear it, I guess, so...

01:46:10.000 They should have asked him his opinion on Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

01:46:14.000 Be cool if the candidates could ask each other questions.

01:46:18.000 Nah, I think that would get crazy.

01:46:19.000 Too dirty?

01:46:20.000 Yeah, because you'd ask a question that you knew was not true for the sake of being accusatory. 0.82

01:46:24.000 Like, Ian, when did you stop beating your wife?

01:46:27.000 Hey, you leave me out of this! 0.97

01:46:29.000 I say put boxing gloves on them and then be like, ask whatever you want.

01:46:33.000 Try election by combat?

01:46:35.000 I like that idea.

01:46:36.000 Yeah.

01:46:37.000 I choose not to debate, I choose to win the election by combat, and then you put them both in the ring, and Tetris.

01:46:42.000 Thunderdome.

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:44.000 What if, what if it was a debate?

01:46:45.000 Thunderdome.

01:46:46.000 A physical, physical contest, like an obstacle course like Ninja Warrior, a physical battle, like American Gladiators, and a mental battle like chess.

01:46:55.000 And they have to do all of these things.

01:46:57.000 I would love it.

01:46:58.000 American Ninja Warrior, just the political issue.

01:47:01.000 It would get rid of the 80 year olds. 1.00

01:47:02.000 One guy would drink the mushroom tea beforehand and get all these bonuses.

01:47:05.000 And then you might have to screen them.

01:47:07.000 And if you're physically fit, you're mentally fit as well, usually.

01:47:10.000 This is idiocracy accelerationism.

01:47:12.000 Yeah.

01:47:13.000 Might as well happen.

01:47:13.000 It's gonna happen eventually.

01:47:14.000 No, no, no, no, this idea is good. Like the idea that in order to be a politician you have to be more than just good

01:47:21.000 at speaking. What do we get? We get a bunch of smooth talkers, silver tongues and snake oil. Make it so that you have to

01:47:29.000 be physically fit, you have to be mentally fit, and you have to actually win the votes.

01:47:35.000 And not be a coward, also, to fight somebody. And know what it means to get punched in the face. 0.96

01:47:41.000 I think a lot of people don't know what it means to get punched in the face.

01:47:43.000 No, many don't.

01:47:43.000 So, that's a way to fix it.

01:47:45.000 Have them fight each other.

01:47:46.000 Let's go!

01:47:47.000 Let's make it happen.

01:47:49.000 Yeah, like, you earn a vote, like a .01 times advantage plus on all the votes you receive if you win the chess match.

01:47:59.000 When you win the boxing match, when you win the obstacle course. 0.98

01:48:03.000 Hey, Bob got his ass beat, but at least he now knows what it means to get your ass beat, and he's not going to be talking trash, and he's not going to try to start another war, hopefully. 0.98

01:48:12.000 Legacy Production says, Oz's lucky Fetterman has health issues. 0.99

01:48:16.000 Even with his speech, Fetterman is taking points away from Oz and saying agreeable things. 0.75

01:48:20.000 I won't completely disagree with that.

01:48:22.000 I think it was really bad, but, you know, Fetterman... There was one point, I can't remember exactly what he said, but I was like, okay, that wasn't so bad.

01:48:28.000 That wasn't so bad.

01:48:29.000 I like this thing on China.

01:48:30.000 I thought that was coherent from front to back.

01:48:33.000 And then Oz had something about, you know, what's the most important American foreign policy problem?

01:48:37.000 China.

01:48:38.000 And Oz was like, something, something, you know, invade in Iran. 0.64

01:48:41.000 Iran.

01:48:42.000 China was the right answer. 1.00

01:48:43.000 Exuding strength that we seem weak to the rest of the world.

01:48:45.000 I think it's central banking.

01:48:46.000 Neither of them mentioned it.

01:48:50.000 The Mad Machinist says, given Biden's success, this guy is a shoo-in for the position.

01:48:55.000 That's the sad thing, isn't it?

01:48:57.000 Ghost Pepper, what does this mean?

01:48:59.000 He said, Baby Ruth.

01:49:01.000 Baby Ruth!

01:49:02.000 That's from Goonies. 0.94

01:49:03.000 That sloth yells that. 0.94

01:49:04.000 He wants a baby Ruth. 0.98

01:49:05.000 I will give it to him.

01:49:06.000 That's right.

01:49:07.000 I forgot.

01:49:09.000 Oh, is that it?

01:49:11.000 Baby Ruth!

01:49:13.000 Why am I laughing?

01:49:16.000 I feel bad.

01:49:18.000 John Myers says, is Hector Salamanca a moderator?

01:49:21.000 I liked that one.

01:49:22.000 Yeah.

01:49:22.000 Cause I recently watched Breaking Bad.

01:49:23.000 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

01:49:26.000 Dude.

01:49:27.000 Yeah.

01:49:27.000 Hector Salamanca.

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:29.000 Well, but what that was going.

01:49:31.000 Cause there was no bell.

01:49:33.000 No bell.

01:49:34.000 I feel like that show should have ended at season 4.

01:49:37.000 Like they dragged it on with the next one.

01:49:39.000 Well they were making money at that point, right?

01:49:41.000 It was like at its height about season 4 is when the world was obsessed with it the most.

01:49:45.000 Alright, Barely N'Sane says Fediman almost sounds like Norm MacDonald doing a bit, but

01:49:51.000 instead of being funny it's sad.

01:49:53.000 True.

01:49:54.000 Ooh, this is a really important one.

01:49:56.000 Wow.

01:49:56.000 Lior.

01:49:57.000 Lior Engelstein.

01:49:59.000 Brilliant.

01:49:59.000 He writes, Have you ever had a dream that you had to, you could, you do, you wit, you could do, so you could do, you want, you wanted him to do you so much you could do anything?

01:50:14.000 Well, I got that part of it.

01:50:16.000 Wanted him to do you, and the answer... I just, I want not to start to make fun of people with mental disabilities because of this stuff, but putting him up there, it makes him a mockery.

01:50:27.000 This has been said before on this show, I don't need to reiterate, but I really want to have compassion for people that are suffering from mental injuries of any kind.

01:50:33.000 Yeah, absolutely, man.

01:50:34.000 But get him out of public office.

01:50:36.000 Right.

01:50:37.000 I mean, he's currently lieutenant governor.

01:50:37.000 Yeah.

01:50:39.000 Time to resign, John.

01:50:39.000 That's crazy.

01:50:40.000 Yep.

01:50:42.000 All right.

01:50:43.000 Jem R says, in fairness to Fetterman, I just believe is the most honest answer I've ever heard a Democrat give about how they plan to make their utopia happen.

01:50:52.000 All right.

01:50:52.000 Agreed.

01:50:57.000 Ingrate says, but you know those feelings over facts are gonna love Fetterman's position on education.

01:51:05.000 What was his position?

01:51:06.000 I don't know.

01:51:07.000 I don't think he had one, did he?

01:51:07.000 I don't know.

01:51:08.000 Yeah, I thought he didn't say anything.

01:51:10.000 Other than you didn't answer the, you know, it's the baleen. 0.96

01:51:15.000 He said baleen.

01:51:16.000 That was one of the words he said.

01:51:18.000 Baleen.

01:51:20.000 I'm not going to translate that for him.

01:51:24.000 Those are the things the whale... They sift the krill through that. 0.66

01:51:28.000 It's called baleen. 0.96

01:51:29.000 He was talking about whales.

01:51:31.000 I do not play these games.

01:51:34.000 If you say the wrong word, you said it.

01:51:37.000 You said it.

01:51:39.000 They expect the journalists to come out here and start fixing it for them.

01:51:43.000 I can hear some meme forges firing up right now.

01:51:47.000 Okay, let's grab, uh, what do we got here?

01:51:51.000 Wise Guys Addicts says, how are you not doing a drinking game watching this?

01:51:54.000 If Dems were sane or informed, Republicans just swept Pennsylvania.

01:51:58.000 Yo, if we did a drinking game that, like, every time Fetterman said something that made no sense, we would all be completely obliterated.

01:52:04.000 We'd have slammed all of the remaining whiskey that we have, and we'd been begging, please stop.

01:52:08.000 In an hour, wow.

01:52:10.000 Yeah, drink it in the first 30 seconds.

01:52:11.000 Drinking's not good for you.

01:52:12.000 It shrinks your brain.

01:52:15.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:52:17.000 A lot of people are basically saying the same thing.

01:52:18.000 So, you know, Ryan Farrell says, first super chat for my 33rd birthday.

01:52:24.000 Happy birthday, Ryan.

01:52:24.000 Love the show.

01:52:27.000 We have this one from Christopher Fairley.

01:52:29.000 Pesobic is saying, if Fetterman wins, he steps down for health reasons and Wolf or Shapiro appoints his wife.

01:52:35.000 Oh, interesting.

01:52:36.000 There you go.

01:52:36.000 Yeah.

01:52:38.000 What's the deal with his wife? 1.00

01:52:39.000 Fetterman's wife? 0.93

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:40.000 She likes some hot job.

01:52:42.000 I don't know.

01:52:43.000 Don't know?

01:52:45.000 ProBot says, Fetterman will appoint his wife.

01:52:47.000 Heck, Biden already said she would do well.

01:52:49.000 It's already planned.

01:52:51.000 We will see.

01:52:51.000 A lot of people thought Kamala Harris was going to take over, that Biden was going to step down due to health reasons.

01:52:56.000 It could still happen, I suppose.

01:52:58.000 She's not Fetterman.

01:52:59.000 What's her excuse?

01:53:02.000 I don't know.

01:53:02.000 This is his wife, Gisele Barreto Fetterman, Brazilian-American activist.

01:53:06.000 Dragonstone says, all I heard Fetterman say was, I support it because I don't support it.

01:53:11.000 That's right.

01:53:11.000 I was like, what?

01:53:14.000 I support it, but I don't support it.

01:53:16.000 Huh?

01:53:18.000 Well, okay, dude. 1.00

01:53:20.000 Cricket Smile says, damn, Ian. 0.99

01:53:22.000 Be brighten up the place with that orange beanie. 1.00

01:53:24.000 Heyo! 1.00

01:53:25.000 I'm glad you like it.

01:53:26.000 Everyone's wearing a beanie except me and you.

01:53:28.000 It's true.

01:53:29.000 It was odd on like the actual breakdown it was two you guys on the other side and the left side with no beanies.

01:53:36.000 Here's a good one.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, but Trump says lies.

01:53:39.000 Luke's made up vocabulary far exceeds Biden and Fetterman's put together.

01:53:42.000 That is a true, that is a fair point.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:53:47.000 Leukisms? 0.98

01:53:47.000 Why don't you should make a shirt with all the, we should like write down the rules. 0.98

01:53:50.000 And the real definitions of what they mean.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, no, right.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:52.000 Like, like Simpsons made Cromulent and Ambigant happen.

01:53:56.000 You know that?

01:53:56.000 Yeah, I've heard you say words, like it'll be like two things, sounds that aren't a word, but you put them together and it makes sense.

01:54:03.000 Yeah, mine makes sense at least, right?

01:54:05.000 Thank you, Ian.

01:54:06.000 I appreciate that.

01:54:06.000 Also, what are you guys heading underneath the beanies?

01:54:09.000 There's something underneath there, isn't there?

01:54:10.000 Well, what is in there?

01:54:11.000 Just a warm head, my friend.

01:54:13.000 A warm head.

01:54:14.000 What about you, Tim?

01:54:14.000 What do you got under the beanie?

01:54:15.000 Nothing, literally.

01:54:17.000 Nothing at all.

01:54:17.000 Just a vacuous space?

01:54:19.000 Yes.

01:54:19.000 Another dimension?

01:54:21.000 It's a portal.

01:54:24.000 Atomisk will come out if I take the beanie off, so I can't. 1.00

01:54:28.000 Anybody who understands that reference, you earn brownie points.

01:54:31.000 I'm sure most people probably.

01:54:32.000 Well, actually, I don't know.

01:54:33.000 I think Serge got it, right?

01:54:36.000 Nope.

01:54:37.000 That's a no.

01:54:38.000 Nope, none of you got it?

01:54:38.000 I pictured the villain from Final Fantasy.

01:54:41.000 No.

01:54:41.000 Atomisk will come out of my head if I take the beanie off.

01:54:45.000 Where's, where's, who's, who's gonna, who's gonna get the reference?

01:54:48.000 Watching the chat, but... I'm cheating, I'm looking it up online.

01:54:52.000 Atomos.

01:54:53.000 Sk.

01:54:54.000 Atomisk.

01:54:55.000 Oh, atomisk.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, it makes it easy.

01:54:57.000 All right, you, you look it up and we'll read some more.

01:55:01.000 All right, where we got, what do we got here?

01:55:04.000 Kongafool says, Luke, if DeSantis runs for president, will you try to make shirts for him?

01:55:10.000 A.K.A.

01:55:10.000 Make America Florida shirts.

01:55:12.000 We already have Make America Florida shirts.

01:55:14.000 I think that's a great statement, yeah.

01:55:15.000 Did you find it?

01:55:16.000 Yeah.

01:55:17.000 The chat already figured it out.

01:55:18.000 Atomsk.

01:55:19.000 Atomusku, also known as the Pirate King.

01:55:21.000 That's right.

01:55:22.000 Kaizoku.

01:55:23.000 The Pirate King.

01:55:24.000 Kaizoku, oh!

01:55:25.000 Is that how you say it?

01:55:27.000 Yes.

01:55:27.000 The space travel in Fuli Kuli is achieved through, between the hemispheres of the brain.

01:55:34.000 I saw F-O-C-L in the chat. 1.00

01:55:35.000 I've seen that show.

01:55:36.000 Yeah.

01:55:36.000 I've seen the whole thing.

01:55:37.000 I just don't remember the word.

01:55:38.000 No, me either.

01:55:39.000 Yeah, it was a great show.

01:55:40.000 Microwave.

01:55:40.000 Yeah.

01:55:41.000 Only six episodes and then they tried remaking it.

01:55:43.000 It was phenomenal.

01:55:44.000 No one, I don't think anyone cared for the remakes.

01:55:46.000 No.

01:55:46.000 That was just weird.

01:55:47.000 It's gorgeous.

01:55:47.000 It's so emotional and it's like such a 90s throwback too.

01:55:50.000 Yeah.

01:55:50.000 Like the music, everything.

01:55:51.000 It's great.

01:55:52.000 Oh, it's, yeah, it's such a good show.

01:55:54.000 Yeah.

01:55:54.000 Shout out Fooley Cooley.

01:55:55.000 That's right, that's right.

01:55:57.000 Shoutout to everybody who got it right!

01:55:58.000 Haha, yeah.

01:55:59.000 Alright, let's grab some more superchats.

01:56:02.000 Chris Scanapieco?

01:56:05.000 Probably pronouncing that wrong.

01:56:07.000 I don't feel bad, dude was awful even before his stroke.

01:56:10.000 You know, someone can be bad, someone can be nasty, but I just, I gotta tell you, man, karma, you don't wish that stuff on people.

01:56:17.000 You know why?

01:56:18.000 Because then karma finds a way.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, don't.

01:56:20.000 You'll come out, someone, I'm telling you right now, there's a lot of people watch this show, and I don't know who it's gonna be, but someone's gonna be sitting there laughing and mocking him and just ragging on him and making fun of him, and then an hour later they're gonna collapse and their family's gonna scream and they're gonna have a stroke and they're gonna be sitting in a wheelchair being like, now I understand.

01:56:36.000 That's the way the universe works sometimes.

01:56:37.000 Yeah.

01:56:38.000 I've noticed that.

01:56:39.000 Black magic, it's untargetable.

01:56:41.000 Like, you just say, I want that ill for a person, and then it just, illness creeps into your reality.

01:56:45.000 I think white magic works the same way when you want healing for someone, that the universe tends to heal you as a result as well.

01:56:52.000 I don't know about all that.

01:56:54.000 I get it, but you know what I think is...

01:56:57.000 I've seen a lot of stuff in my life that I would say defies probability, or at least what we think is probability, which either means within my limited human confines, we're predisposed to believe in something greater than us, or it means based on our basic understandings of probability and arithmetic, there are things that sometimes seemingly defy that, and we want to believe in something greater.

01:57:17.000 Which is quantum entanglement.

01:57:18.000 It's scientific fact at this point.

01:57:22.000 Objects can entangle within reality and they start to interact similarly.

01:57:26.000 They vibrate together.

01:57:27.000 But it's one object.

01:57:29.000 What may be happening is that when electrons are entangled is that you infuse energy on one and it moves, and then hundreds of miles away another one's moving, but it may be because it's actually the same object Through multiple dimensions or something like that.

01:57:44.000 But I'm just saying this. 0.98

01:57:45.000 Throughout my life, there have been moments where I've been like watching a video and I'm like, that guy is so dumb. 0.96

01:57:50.000 And then like I high five my friend and we make fun of a guy. 0.84

01:57:52.000 And then like a week later, they're like, I want to introduce my friend.

01:57:54.000 And I'm like, it's the guy.

01:57:55.000 And I'm like.

01:57:56.000 Oh geez, now I feel bad.

01:57:58.000 And so I've learned at a young age, like, I would rag on somebody skating and then I would fall and be like, I'm never doing that again.

01:58:05.000 Like, I'm just gonna mind my karma and just try and be nice.

01:58:09.000 Learned that lesson very young.

01:58:11.000 Don't mock people who are suffering.

01:58:14.000 Wish for them the best for one reason, because if it happens to you, you're gonna wish for sympathy as well.

01:58:18.000 It's so crazy that there's that state of mind, which I embody that, and then there's war, where the goal is to destroy another thing or person or society.

01:58:27.000 It's incredible that we live in that binary duality, if it's only two.

01:58:30.000 I mean, there's more than that going on.

01:58:32.000 All right, let's read this one.

01:58:34.000 We got Artemisia says, he legit said, quote, I didn't read in the Statue of Liberty.

01:58:41.000 Uh-huh.

01:58:42.000 He did.

01:58:43.000 Yeah.

01:58:44.000 I think he was referring to the plaque, right?

01:58:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:47.000 You know, give me your tired, boar-huddled masses. 1.00

01:58:49.000 Ezra, whatever, yeah.

01:58:51.000 Okay, Happy Guy says, Predicted says Oz will win 69%.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 Well, there you go.

01:58:57.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:58:58.000 says, Tim, nobody high fives after insulting someone.

01:59:00.000 I mean figuratively, not literally.

01:59:03.000 Like, I'm like, hey, look at that guy. 1.00

01:59:04.000 He's dumb. 1.00

01:59:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:05.000 I meant like, we're like watching a skate video and then we're just like, dude, that guy's pants are so dumb. 0.99

01:59:10.000 Oh, he's going to eat it. 1.00

01:59:11.000 Ah, what a, what a dork. 0.99

01:59:13.000 And then, you know, later you fall and get hurt and you're like, I'm not going to rag on people. 0.99

01:59:15.000 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to wish for only the best.

01:59:19.000 Cause like, you don't want, you know, bad karma.

01:59:21.000 No.

01:59:21.000 Yeah.

01:59:22.000 And at the very least when bad things happen to you, you can be like, well, you know, I did my best.

01:59:25.000 Right.

01:59:27.000 All right, this is a very important one from Austin Carroll.

01:59:29.000 He says, I'm pooping right now.

01:59:31.000 Still?

01:59:32.000 Still.

01:59:33.000 It's been going on for a while.

01:59:34.000 Why'd you leave that super chat?

01:59:36.000 Have a good poop?

01:59:37.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:59:37.000 That's right, you know.

01:59:39.000 Use a squatty potty.

01:59:40.000 All right, Austin S. says, here in Minnesota, the governor didn't show up for a debate, so his Republican opponent had an uninterrupted Q&A session.

01:59:47.000 Dems are doomed.

01:59:48.000 What?

01:59:48.000 Really?

01:59:49.000 Just didn't show up?

01:59:51.000 Wow.

01:59:52.000 I know Carrie Lake did that, basically, right?

01:59:53.000 Mm-hmm.

01:59:54.000 She had, like, an empty stage or something, and then she just answered questions?

01:59:57.000 Wow.

01:59:58.000 That's great.

01:59:58.000 Yeah, man.

01:59:59.000 She's phenomenal. 1.00

02:00:00.000 She's just always on.

02:00:01.000 Always on.

02:00:02.000 All right, quick, name a Democrat A-lister. 1.00

02:00:06.000 Me?

02:00:07.000 AOC.

02:00:07.000 I mean, I don't even know where to start.

02:00:08.000 That's a good point.

02:00:09.000 Yeah, AOC.

02:00:10.000 Gavin Newsom?

02:00:11.000 I don't know.

02:00:11.000 I don't think so.

02:00:13.000 He's like, he's B-tier.

02:00:15.000 You know.

02:00:16.000 AOC?

02:00:16.000 Bernie Sanders?

02:00:18.000 Uh, yeah, but Bernie Sanders is like, retiree status.

02:00:22.000 He's like 37, he's about to be a free agent, that probably maybe won't get drafted.

02:00:26.000 Get hired again.

02:00:27.000 I mean, like, an up-and-coming young star of high charisma.

02:00:30.000 Mayor Pete?

02:00:31.000 No way!

02:00:32.000 No, I agree.

02:00:33.000 Beto?

02:00:33.000 Like, I'm naming people that they throw out there, but they're all terrible.

02:00:37.000 Bernie's too old.

02:00:38.000 He's very famous, but he's too old.

02:00:40.000 Newsom is not an A-lister.

02:00:42.000 Name a Republican A-lister.

02:00:43.000 Come on, so easy.

02:00:44.000 There's like 10 of them.

02:00:45.000 Trump, obvious.

02:00:46.000 Noam, DeSantis, Kerry Lake.

02:00:49.000 Just ridiculously obvious.

02:00:51.000 And then, uh, Yeah, MTG, Lauren Boebert, these are massive personalities. 0.99

02:00:58.000 AOC, I think is fair, but the rest of the squad, they've not been particularly prominent, and even AOC hasn't really been particularly prominent.

02:01:04.000 Democrats are just flopping around.

02:01:06.000 It's brutal.

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02:01:33.000 Oh man, that's so depressing.

02:01:35.000 I wouldn't watch it otherwise, and when you turn it off the first time, I'm like, thank goodness.

02:01:39.000 Thank goodness.

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02:02:59.000 Thank you guys so much for coming.

02:03:00.000 And Andrew, thanks for experiencing the shared trauma amongst the group.

02:03:04.000 Thanks so much for having me.

02:03:05.000 It has bonded us and made us stronger and closer.

02:03:07.000 Yes.

02:03:08.000 I don't feel stronger.

02:03:08.000 It was like battle.

02:03:10.000 I think it takes a few days to set in.

02:03:12.000 It's like after working out, you feel all ripped up.

02:03:14.000 That's right.

02:03:14.000 It's like PTSD.

02:03:15.000 You'll be stronger for it.

02:03:16.000 Flashbacks.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 25, 2022

Timcast IRL - Fetterman Oz Debate LIVE NOW, Disaster Expected As GOP Takes Lead w-Andrew Kloster

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