Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - GOP DROPS PROOF Biden Took $200k DIRECTLY From Shady Business Deals w-Lauren Witzke

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00:00:13.000 Jim Jordan was stabbed in the back in a secret ballot.

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00:00:17.000 So a lot of interesting things happening.

00:00:18.000 There's still no Speaker of the House.

00:00:19.000 We'll see what happens there.

00:00:21.000 Joe Biden cashed a $200,000 check from his brother, which directly links him to the shady business dealings of his family.

00:00:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:29.000 Well, he said he wasn't involved or any of that, but now we have what appears to be or what many people are alleging is money laundering.

00:00:36.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene herself actually says that this is money that was laundered.

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00:03:58.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Lauren Witzke.

00:04:02.000 Hello, hello.

00:04:03.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:04:04.000 It's an honor.

00:04:05.000 Who are you?

00:04:06.000 What do you do?

00:04:07.000 My name is Lauren Witzke.

00:04:08.000 I am currently the executive producer for the Stu Peters Network.

00:04:12.000 I was the Republican nominee for United States Senate back in 2020, and I'm the producer behind the movie Died Suddenly and Watch the Water.

00:04:21.000 Right on.

00:04:21.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:04:22.000 We got Carter Banks hanging out.

00:04:22.000 Should be fun.

00:04:23.000 What's up, guys?

00:04:26.000 That's it, he's a music producer here at TimCast.

00:04:27.000 Music producer here at TimCast, doing stuff with Triumph House.

00:04:31.000 So the Carter is popping in on Fridays because of our top secret music project.

00:04:36.000 No, because we actually, I don't know, we don't have a camera set up for that right now, do we?

00:04:40.000 We've got a couple, actually.

00:04:41.000 But I mean, is it on?

00:04:41.000 Is it set up?

00:04:42.000 Yeah, they're ready to go.

00:04:43.000 We're rolling.

00:04:44.000 Can you switch to it?

00:04:44.000 Do you want me to do it right now?

00:04:45.000 There you go.

00:04:46.000 Right, so we're actually, oh wow, that looks amazing.

00:04:48.000 We've got three going, ready to go.

00:04:49.000 Yeah, we're actually... We've had this, like, music setup for a long time.

00:04:52.000 We've never set it up, but now the plan is Fridays, we're actually going to start having music.

00:04:57.000 Yeah, it'll be pretty sweet.

00:04:58.000 Look at that.

00:04:58.000 Musical guests and, uh... Yep.

00:05:01.000 So, we're gonna have music Friday nights.

00:05:03.000 We did this a while ago, and it was more just, like, we would just jam on acoustic, but now the idea is when we can, if we can, we'll have musical guests.

00:05:12.000 So, we're hoping that Friday we'll get... There's a lot of really awesome You know, popular prominent musicians who are starting to get very political.

00:05:20.000 And so we're looking forward to having them come and hang out with us.

00:05:22.000 Obviously, Phil Labonte is on the show.

00:05:23.000 He's currently out of town working on his new album, I believe.

00:05:27.000 But we're hoping to have him and whoever else come and play some songs for us.

00:05:31.000 And it's going to be really awesome.

00:05:32.000 So yeah, we got Libby hanging out. 0.97

00:05:34.000 Hey, I'm back.

00:05:35.000 I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial and Human Events filling in for Ian yet again.

00:05:40.000 Ian's on vacation.

00:05:42.000 He was on vacation.

00:05:43.000 Lucky dog.

00:05:44.000 What happened was he messaged me saying that he's doing, um, what is that?

00:05:48.000 What is that training they're doing where they like run through the woods with guns or something?

00:05:52.000 That sounds kind of fun.

00:05:53.000 Yeah, tactical.

00:05:54.000 Camp.

00:05:54.000 No, he's doing some kind of like tactical training with Luke.

00:05:58.000 And so he hits me up and he's like, this is amazing!

00:06:00.000 And he's at the gym with Luke.

00:06:01.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:06:02.000 And I'm like, Ian started working out and he's turning into a conserver bro.

00:06:05.000 That's amazing.

00:06:06.000 He's praying to Jesus.

00:06:07.000 He's doing gun training.

00:06:08.000 He's exercising.

00:06:09.000 He's praying to Jesus?

00:06:10.000 He said that on the show that he prayed to Jesus for the first time.

00:06:12.000 That's true.

00:06:14.000 Yeah, he did.

00:06:15.000 So working out can make you Christian. 0.91

00:06:17.000 That's great news.

00:06:18.000 It makes you conservative.

00:06:19.000 I love it.

00:06:20.000 Well, so while he's out of town on his, you know, spiritual quest, Libby's here.

00:06:24.000 We got Serge pressing the buttons.

00:06:25.000 Yeah, I am here.

00:06:27.000 I'm excited to do this music stuff, too.

00:06:28.000 It'll be fun, man.

00:06:30.000 Yeah, that's very cool.

00:06:31.000 Let's just jump into it.

00:06:32.000 I'm also covering for Kellen on Fridays now, so.

00:06:34.000 Alright, here we go.

00:06:35.000 From the post-millennial, Joe Biden cashed $200,000 check from brother James' business deal, House investigators reveal.

00:06:44.000 Now, the check says loan repayment, which is funny, because how do you track the record of when was a loan given?

00:06:52.000 Was it even a loan?

00:06:53.000 So there's a lot to break down before we even read any of this.

00:06:56.000 I'll just say very simply, what this shows is this check, you know, it can be completely on the level.

00:07:01.000 Maybe, maybe Joe just gave his brother a loan, right?

00:07:03.000 That's all it was.

00:07:04.000 Okay, here, here brother, here's money for you.

00:07:06.000 It shows that Joe is directly involved in the finances and the business dealings that his brother's engaged in.

00:07:11.000 This is his brother going, James going to Joe and saying, I need a loan for Insert project.

00:07:18.000 And Joe sang, you got it, which makes Joe the financier of these things.

00:07:22.000 That is the best case scenario for Joe.

00:07:25.000 That all he did is help finance his brother's business dealings or something, a component of what his brother's involved in.

00:07:32.000 You can make the argument, oh, maybe it's personal.

00:07:34.000 No, I don't accept that.

00:07:35.000 Because when Donald Trump We tried to get the G7 at Trump Doral, arguing that he would do it at cost with no profit.

00:07:43.000 Everyone on the left, and even me, we all said, no, it's still a direct payment which benefits Trump's companies.

00:07:51.000 This right here is still a direct payment benefiting his brother who is engaged in these shady business dealings.

00:07:58.000 I think at the bare minimum shows his brother's involved.

00:08:00.000 Now, the worst case scenario, of course, is Joe's getting paid off.

00:08:04.000 Now, when you look at the hard evidence, and you can see 10% for the big guy and all that, I think it is clear now, you connect the dots, this is circumstantial evidence that when they said 10% for the big guy, when they were talking about paying Joe Biden, a loan repayment, could this be what Hunter was talking about when he said his dad takes half his salary?

00:08:23.000 Could this be the fee paid to Joe, a loan for his name?

00:08:29.000 Now, what actually is pointed out in the article is that the reason... So what happens is AmeriCorps gives James Biden a loan.

00:08:36.000 James then, that day, writes a $200,000 check to Joe, which looks like money laundering.

00:08:41.000 Yeah!

00:08:42.000 And it says loan repayment on the check.

00:08:45.000 Which is, there's no way to know as yet if Biden had actually given his brother a loan.

00:08:52.000 So, James Comer wants to know whether Biden has the documents to prove that he had lent $200,000 to his brother, whether he had similar arrangements with other family members.

00:09:02.000 And Marjorie Taylor Greene said exactly what you said, Carter, that it's a classic example of money laundering.

00:09:07.000 I mean, yeah, I didn't want to overstep with that, but it looks exactly like that.

00:09:12.000 And it's so overt, I mean, come on.

00:09:16.000 It might not be, but when AmeriCorps was failing, and apparently out of business but still had money in the coffers, writes a check for $200,000 to James, who then instantly, that day, writes $200,000 for Biden, it looks like AmeriCorps is giving Biden money.

00:09:32.000 It sure does look like that.

00:09:34.000 And also the other thing too is if it's not a loan repayment.

00:09:38.000 We have the situation where Donald Trump is being tried in New York by Alvin Bragg on what is it like 37 counts of falsification of business records.

00:09:47.000 So could this perhaps be if if Biden didn't give his brother a loan then this is the falsification of a business record.

00:09:54.000 Did it go down in his taxes as a loan repayment?

00:09:58.000 How has this been quantified?

00:09:59.000 What are his bookkeeping records looking like if Trump is being brought up on these charges?

00:10:05.000 It's a civil suit against Trump, but basically, I saw this and I started laughing.

00:10:08.000 I'm like, oh, so everything they accused Trump of doing, they did.

00:10:11.000 That's a criminal case.

00:10:11.000 The Alvin Bragg one is criminal.

00:10:15.000 Oh, I mean in the civil case in New York where they're arguing he falsified business records.

00:10:19.000 Yeah, that Alvin Bragg one.

00:10:20.000 Isn't that criminal?

00:10:21.000 No, it's a civil suit.

00:10:22.000 I don't know if it's the Letitia James in New York.

00:10:25.000 That's a civil suit.

00:10:26.000 The Alvin Bragg falsification of business records.

00:10:26.000 Right.

00:10:29.000 What I'm saying is the suit against Trump right now by Letitia James is a lawsuit to determine whether Trump falsified business records.

00:10:36.000 And Alvin Bragg has a similar case.

00:10:36.000 Right.

00:10:38.000 Yeah.

00:10:39.000 But that one was about Stormy Daniels, wasn't it?

00:10:42.000 Yeah, it was about the money that Trump paid to Michael Cohen, and then Cohen paid money to Stormy Daniels.

00:10:47.000 So this is very much like that one, actually.

00:10:49.000 And this is very much like that one.

00:10:50.000 Lock him up!

00:10:51.000 Lock him up!

00:10:52.000 They make the rules, not us, you know?

00:10:52.000 Joe's gotta go!

00:10:54.000 And we, you know, we are humble followers of those laws.

00:10:57.000 So, man, you know, it really breaks my heart to say this, but we're gonna have to arrest Joe Biden and, you know, he's gonna have to go to jail.

00:11:04.000 Well, I would love to see the Department of Justice actually do that.

00:11:06.000 Let's get the FBI involved.

00:11:08.000 They should really start digging in, correct?

00:11:10.000 The only way... Isn't that what's up now?

00:11:12.000 Like, raid his house.

00:11:13.000 Okay.

00:11:13.000 Let's go for it.

00:11:14.000 Do you want to see Joe Biden get arrested right now for this?

00:11:17.000 Because I can tell you... No, no, I can tell you exactly how you can see it.

00:11:20.000 If you want to see Joe Biden, there is one way that you can see him right now get arrested for this.

00:11:26.000 It's called mid-journey.

00:11:27.000 You just type in the prompt, Joe Biden gets arrested.

00:11:29.000 That's the only way you're ever going to see him.

00:11:31.000 Citizens arrest in Georgia or something like that.

00:11:33.000 Nope, just AI generated images and then you can fantasize and pretend like the world is actually safe and there's accountability.

00:11:40.000 But, you know, other than that, have fun.

00:11:43.000 That's like how my mom used to always watch the West Wing. 0.96

00:11:46.000 She was just obsessed with it.

00:11:47.000 She was like, this is how I just fantasize reality.

00:11:51.000 Oh, that's so sad.

00:11:53.000 The reality of the internal workings of the White House, right now with Biden, is probably so dark.

00:12:00.000 What did they find?

00:12:01.000 They found crack, right?

00:12:02.000 Yeah, I was just thinking about that.

00:12:04.000 What, cocaine?

00:12:06.000 In the White House.

00:12:07.000 Somewhere in the White House.

00:12:07.000 Right.

00:12:08.000 Past security.

00:12:08.000 I grew up in Delaware.

00:12:09.000 So I grew up with the Biden, like, dynasty ruling over my state for years and years.

00:12:15.000 And it's, like, well-known.

00:12:16.000 It's just, like, kind of public knowledge that they're, like, super corrupt.

00:12:19.000 The Bidens run everything.

00:12:21.000 You can't get past anything.

00:12:23.000 And their kids are a mess, too.

00:12:26.000 Was that the story on Beau Biden as well?

00:12:27.000 Was he considered to be a big mess?

00:12:29.000 So Beau Biden was, like, the beloved.

00:12:30.000 Right.

00:12:31.000 You know, but also he had a lot of Backdoor stuff going on between like Northern Delaware and Southern Delaware and like paying off politicians for bridges and road repairs and stuff like that.

00:12:46.000 So there was a lot of like even corruption back then.

00:12:49.000 I wouldn't say he was a man of character.

00:12:51.000 Um, based on what I know of him, but the Bidens, like, I saw what he did to my, the Bidens did to my state.

00:12:59.000 It's almost unlivable now in some parts.

00:13:01.000 And yeah, and I'm watching him do it to America.

00:13:01.000 Really?

00:13:03.000 As soon as he was elected president, I said, oh boy, not good.

00:13:07.000 So.

00:13:08.000 No.

00:13:08.000 It was interesting, uh, uh, Michael super chatted saying loan repayment in the memo was, was, uh, not written by the same person.

00:13:15.000 Oh, you think?

00:13:16.000 Well, I don't know about that.

00:13:16.000 I mean, the superchatter did.

00:13:17.000 But I've got the picture right here, so if you take a look, the argument is that the writing for 200,000 and zero, you know, 100, and loan repayment are different.

00:13:28.000 I don't know.

00:13:30.000 What do you guys think?

00:13:31.000 I think they look the same to me, but I certainly am no handwriting expert.

00:13:39.000 I was blasting a stink bug.

00:13:40.000 I don't like those guys. 0.92

00:13:42.000 I don't like them.

00:13:42.000 They're funny.

00:13:43.000 I know.

00:13:43.000 They just smell bad.

00:13:44.000 And they clap.

00:13:45.000 I know, they're great.

00:13:46.000 There's one hanging out in my kitchen at home right now, actually.

00:13:49.000 But yeah, it doesn't look the same to me.

00:13:51.000 It looks pretty different.

00:13:53.000 The lowercase t's kind of look different.

00:13:56.000 Do they?

00:13:56.000 Where's their lowercase t?

00:13:58.000 At the very end in loan repayment and then... It looks like there's a capital T in thousand.

00:14:06.000 I don't know.

00:14:06.000 I mean, I'm not a handwriting expert, but they said that there are more angles.

00:14:10.000 What did they say?

00:14:11.000 The writing has more of an angle?

00:14:14.000 I can see that, actually.

00:14:15.000 The repayment is written with a slight angle to the right, meaning at the very least, if they wrote $200,000, they shifted the check as they wrote again, giving it a rightward angle to their handwriting.

00:14:25.000 But anyway, if that were true, and I'm sure there are handwriting experts who can either just bunk or debunk it, then the implication being made here, and I don't know if that has any merit, the implication is that when Joe received the check, he wrote loan repayment on it himself.

00:14:43.000 Right.

00:14:43.000 Or someone else did.

00:14:44.000 Someone just wanted to make sure that they literally dotted their I's and crossed their T's.

00:14:49.000 This is not a payment, it's a repayment.

00:14:51.000 It's a loan repayment.

00:14:53.000 Maybe it just said loan payment.

00:14:55.000 You know, I don't think we're gonna get anything from this.

00:14:58.000 No.

00:14:58.000 You know, uh, yeah.

00:15:01.000 They're gonna say, look, it's his brother lent his money, his brother some money, that's all it is.

00:15:05.000 I think that a lot of this stuff, I mean, I think that what keeps happening is that the House GOP has the goods on Joe Biden, and it's just not going to go anywhere.

00:15:15.000 No matter how much, no matter, even though they have the majority, they don't really have any power at this point in Congress.

00:15:22.000 The Democrats have a lot of power to, you know, they went along with Matt Gaetz, you know, in the ousting of McCarthy.

00:15:30.000 Whether you like that or not, you know that they did that That was a the Democrats had all the power there over the majority of the GOP Which was my main concern about the ousting of McCarthy was like it just sort of gives up the GOP power What what was there?

00:15:46.000 Well, even when they didn't have that much anyway, yeah, I mean that's sort of we don't use it We don't wield our political power ever.

00:15:52.000 We're well known for being like the losers They can't raise money if they're like if they're winning, you know, that's that's the thing we say we It's like, no, no, no, no, like the, the neocon shill establishment Republicans are not us, are not you.

00:16:07.000 They're, they're, the reason they don't wield their, they wield their power against you. 0.84

00:16:11.000 Right.

00:16:11.000 So when everyone's like, why won't the Republicans do anything?

00:16:13.000 No, no, no, you don't understand.

00:16:15.000 They're using all of their might and power to crush you, the person who voted for them.

00:16:19.000 Well, they're still just doing that uniparty thing.

00:16:21.000 And that's why it's the moderates now who are like in a position to make deals with Democrats.

00:16:26.000 Ugh. 0.86

00:16:27.000 It's pretty gross.

00:16:28.000 It's pretty gross.

00:16:29.000 But that's the concern, is that we're not going to get anything out of this, no matter how many smoking guns they bring, no matter how much direct evidence of bribery there is.

00:16:38.000 We're not going to see accountability from the Biden family.

00:16:42.000 Plus, Biden's going to be out.

00:16:45.000 I don't think any of us think that he's actually going to be president for the next term.

00:16:49.000 Do you think they're going to run somebody else?

00:16:52.000 I don't know.

00:16:52.000 I mean, I just don't see how he could possibly serve another four years.

00:16:57.000 He can barely even like- Yeah, I saw a video of him the other day and I didn't even- it was very weird.

00:17:04.000 It looked like a robot from Disney World, kind of.

00:17:06.000 Well, he does the old man dementia shuffle.

00:17:09.000 Very slow.

00:17:10.000 And like, it's the shuffle.

00:17:11.000 It's the like, I'm afraid to fall down thing.

00:17:14.000 You have his staff saying outright that part of their job is to make sure that he doesn't fall down.

00:17:20.000 We see him fall down anyways.

00:17:22.000 It's like, we were talking the other night about when he does give speeches, when he gives big speeches, it's like, it almost seems like he's a different man than when he's just off the cuff.

00:17:33.000 He doesn't seem all there.

00:17:34.000 He shakes hands with the air.

00:17:35.000 It's very bizarre.

00:17:37.000 To see this man who's so clearly losing it to old age.

00:17:46.000 He's not really making any of the decisions.

00:17:48.000 It's probably the Obama administration like kind of pulling the strings making the decision.

00:17:54.000 They just need a face guy and they haven't picked anybody else yet to They haven't.

00:17:57.000 I mean, Newsom is making some noise.

00:18:00.000 He was.

00:18:01.000 He said he was going to go travel around to Israel, you know, which is like a face opportunity.

00:18:07.000 Hochul did that as well from New York.

00:18:09.000 She went there.

00:18:10.000 I think she said she went there the day before Biden did.

00:18:14.000 But I just don't see I don't see how he could possibly do it.

00:18:17.000 So, I mean, if he's just going to be propped up, if it's going to be like, you know, weekend at Bernie's, the White House.

00:18:25.000 Don't you think the American people are going to be aware of that?

00:18:28.000 Why would we?

00:18:29.000 Well, I've talked to a few Democrats, too, that even say that he's too old.

00:18:33.000 They're just like, man, I think he needs to retire.

00:18:35.000 He's getting too old.

00:18:36.000 But the concern is Kamala Harris is second in line, and she is the most disliked Candidate most disliked politician probably in American history. 0.62

00:18:48.000 They had no reason to choose her.

00:18:52.000 She was in a deep blue state of California and they still put her with Joe Biden for the sake, I guess, of diversity.

00:18:58.000 However, she is very unliked.

00:19:00.000 Very unliked.

00:19:01.000 And it just didn't make any sense.

00:19:02.000 I wonder if they're going to switch out a VP.

00:19:06.000 For him, you know, that would be more likely what I think.

00:19:08.000 I think they're going to try and run him, but make a really likable vice president.

00:19:12.000 How can they do that?

00:19:14.000 Voting?

00:19:14.000 How would they swap him out?

00:19:17.000 Gets too old?

00:19:18.000 Like, can't you switch out your vice presidential candidate?

00:19:21.000 Wouldn't he?

00:19:22.000 Wouldn't that be an issue in and of itself?

00:19:24.000 If you put like Gavin Newsom or something running as VP with Biden, people would vote for that.

00:19:29.000 She would need, like, for her to go along with that, she would need some exit strategy that gives her a better position than vice president. 1.00

00:19:38.000 And I feel like she'd have to make that decision by herself, too.

00:19:42.000 And be like, you know, one of those, I want to spend more time with my family.

00:19:46.000 Even though she barely has a family at all.

00:19:47.000 They'll come up with something.

00:19:48.000 Yeah.

00:19:49.000 You know, some kind of payout or something to salvage her dignity or reputation. 1.00

00:19:53.000 Right.

00:19:53.000 But that's the thing.

00:19:54.000 I don't think that Democrats are really confident in a Joe Biden presidency with Kamala being the one.

00:20:01.000 I was even concerned when they were talking about impeaching Biden because I don't want... Kamala's going to be ten times worse. 0.99

00:20:05.000 Like, she's a psycho. 1.00

00:20:06.000 Oh, she's terrible. 1.00

00:20:07.000 I mean, she's... The woman is nuts. 1.00

00:20:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:09.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 She's unburdened by what might have been.

00:20:12.000 Well, let's talk about the big story that's affecting us directly.

00:20:16.000 We have this from my Twitter account!

00:20:19.000 And that's it.

00:20:19.000 Fox News filed a copyright strike on our GOP debate commentary, taking the whole episode down.

00:20:26.000 And I will say immediately, as we begin the segment, I believe that what we did was absolutely fair use.

00:20:33.000 We were, first of all, the public has a right to know what's going on with these debates.

00:20:40.000 It is newsworthy what these individuals are saying.

00:20:43.000 We were commenting directly on what was being said and the show itself.

00:20:48.000 It was direct commentary on this.

00:20:50.000 Combine those things and I think that immediately This is a matter of our democracy, as they like to say, right?

00:20:59.000 So the argument would be that Fox News can host presidential candidates who can say things that only they are allowed to filter to the American public, and no one else is allowed to fact-check what they are saying.

00:21:12.000 Now, their argument is you can fact check them, but you can't just show what they've said in real time.

00:21:18.000 I reject that.

00:21:19.000 That would mean that everyone has to watch only their interpretation, and it creates a circumstance in which they can selectively choose to take down only specific commentary.

00:21:29.000 It would be impossible to take down everyone who's providing commentary, which means there will always be the argument that, oh, but, you know, they infringed on our copyright, so we took them down.

00:21:39.000 It's okay.

00:21:39.000 Okay, hold on.

00:21:41.000 The guy critical of candidate one was taken down, but the guy critical of candidate two was not.

00:21:45.000 Oh, we must have missed it.

00:21:46.000 That creates a loophole that will require that you actually can't do anything about it, to be completely honest.

00:21:52.000 I think this precedent can't stand.

00:21:54.000 Because right now, as it stands, I can't sue Fox News simply for filing a claim on YouTube.

00:22:01.000 We can do a counterclaim and have their claim pushed back.

00:22:05.000 They can then, within ten days, file a lawsuit.

00:22:08.000 Otherwise, YouTube restores our video.

00:22:10.000 They then have to sue us.

00:22:12.000 But if this is allowed to stand, what happens is, you have Democrat and Republican.

00:22:17.000 The Democrats run criticism of the GOP.

00:22:20.000 And let's say Democrat personalities and Republican personalities are commenting and criticizing, and then large institutions, whoever it may be, can choose to only strike certain channels.

00:22:32.000 The people who are not given a strike can't sue, and the people who are given a strike don't have standing in court to argue, oh, but look, they're not being taken down, because the argument is, okay, well, we'll go take them down next.

00:22:43.000 You would have that argument, you could say, they're doing this selectively, but the situation it creates is, the only person with the power is the institution controlling the debates, no one can fact check or comment on it, and they can control who's allowed to fact check and comment on it.

00:22:57.000 That's an impossibility.

00:22:58.000 But I've got more news here.

00:23:00.000 To add to this, David Pakman, nine days ago, had announced the same thing.

00:23:06.000 And I was unaware of this.

00:23:07.000 And here you can see the copyright strike he received on his channel.

00:23:10.000 Let me remove the CC, the closed captions.

00:23:15.000 You can see that in no way does it affect his ability to stream.

00:23:18.000 As of right now, Fox Media LLC, October 6, filed the strike against him.

00:23:22.000 I can say this now.

00:23:24.000 I'm not going to reveal any... Here's what I can say.

00:23:28.000 Several other individuals who are providing commentary on the debates also received strikes and had their commentary taken down.

00:23:39.000 It's hard to know when, you know, we started doing a cursory search of other channels because the videos aren't there.

00:23:43.000 So we don't know if they did or didn't.

00:23:45.000 I don't track what everybody does.

00:23:47.000 But knowing that David did, I immediately saw this video.

00:23:50.000 When I started doing my search of this, and David also received a strike, so we'll see what happens over the next week or so, I don't know.

00:23:58.000 I would be shocked if Fox News actually tries to pursue lawsuits against a combined 50 million subscribers across the board, arguing that they are the only ones allowed To have commentary.

00:24:14.000 I will further add, in my view, and probably if there was going to be a suit, you know, my lawyers would be like, stop saying all this stuff.

00:24:20.000 This is important.

00:24:20.000 I don't care.

00:24:22.000 The show that we did is not even a substitute for what Fox was providing.

00:24:26.000 You could not even hear the debate half the time because we are just insulting politicians.

00:24:31.000 If you want to actually just listen to the words of the politicians, you go watch the debate on Fox News.

00:24:36.000 If you want to hear us yell at them and insult them, you come here, but you're not even hearing half the time what they were saying.

00:24:42.000 So I don't even think that argument stands.

00:24:45.000 Fox News is deciding to go to war against some of the biggest political commentators in the world right now.

00:24:53.000 I can't imagine they, I think this is, I think this is an abuse of the system and I think they lose on this, on this one.

00:25:00.000 This is insane. 0.97

00:25:01.000 And this is why, you know, initially we didn't even want to do the coverage of it because it's stupid because the lesser known Republican candidates, Trump is going to win. 0.96

00:25:10.000 And so we decided to simply because, you know, ultimately there's several things.

00:25:15.000 One, people really wanted to hear us fact check and comment on what they were saying.

00:25:20.000 And so they were like, look, they didn't care what was being shown in the debates.

00:25:25.000 They cared how we were responding.

00:25:27.000 Essentially, we want to debate the presidential candidates.

00:25:31.000 If Fox News has their way, there will be no public debate on our presidential candidates.

00:25:35.000 And I think that's absurd.

00:25:36.000 It's like a reaction video.

00:25:39.000 I can respect, to a certain degree, an argument made by Fox, but I think it's a bad argument that loses, because in order for us to have our institutions, our constitutional republic with democratic institutions, there must be a robust public debate on our political candidates, and they do not have the argument that they own the monopoly on the political debate.

00:26:03.000 If their show was simply truckers arguing truck driving, totally get it.

00:26:08.000 But these people want to be president, and Fox is telling me I have no right to fact check them in real time?

00:26:14.000 No way.

00:26:15.000 Yeah, it's no go ahead.

00:26:16.000 No, they even went to the extent where you said that they had a choice where they could just take the video down or actually like punish you with a strike and they chose to punish you with a strike.

00:26:26.000 So that just kind of goes to show that it was, you know, kind of a weaponized attempt to take a stab at Tim Pool from Well, it's not just me.

00:26:35.000 I mean, it's a bunch of people who got strikes.

00:26:37.000 They're going after everybody, is my understanding.

00:26:40.000 Well, I shouldn't say everybody.

00:26:41.000 They've gone after a lot of people.

00:26:42.000 I do have some questions, because I can say they didn't go after everyone just yet.

00:26:47.000 So I say just yet, but that's the point.

00:26:49.000 If Fox News is selectively taking down only some, then the argument would be they are creating an environment where any institution that is hosting a debate can choose who's allowed to comment on the debate.

00:27:01.000 Well, we can't have that.

00:27:03.000 There's no functioning democratic election if large institutions are like, we're going to let these seven people do it. 0.96

00:27:10.000 I mean, I'll put it this way.

00:27:13.000 I think Fox could quite literally be like, oh, all of those commentators, we give them a license.

00:27:20.000 Those ones, we take down.

00:27:23.000 And it's arbitrary.

00:27:24.000 It effectively just silos and manipulates and controls public discourse.

00:27:28.000 I think this is a gross infringement, an egregious abuse of the system.

00:27:32.000 But I also think, I think if they pursue a lawsuit, it goes to the Supreme Court, I think they lose.

00:27:37.000 I also think that it doesn't make any sense for Fox to be able to have a proprietary broadcast.

00:27:44.000 Anyone who wants to broadcast the debate should be allowed in to broadcast the debate.

00:27:48.000 That is in the public interest.

00:27:50.000 Like you were saying, these are people who want to be president.

00:27:53.000 Now, none of them are going to be president.

00:27:57.000 You know, but they're certainly out there trying to do this.

00:28:00.000 And any American should have the ability to see that.

00:28:03.000 And the fact that Fox News is on cable and a lot of people can't see that also is a problem.

00:28:09.000 But it's free online.

00:28:10.000 And there's a lot of arguments they can make about who they allow to stream and things like that.

00:28:14.000 Don't care.

00:28:14.000 My argument is They want to create a world where they are the funnel of information on public discourse.

00:28:22.000 We have these things called anti-SLAPP laws. 1.00

00:28:25.000 SLAPP means Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.

00:28:29.000 There are many states, probably half the country, where if I said, David Pakman is a leftist communist or whatever, insult him in some way.

00:28:40.000 Then he can't sue me for several reasons.

00:28:43.000 It's not just the higher standards, right?

00:28:46.000 You could actually, because David Pakman is a public figure, accuse him of doing a backflip and landing in the mud.

00:28:53.000 And let's argue that for some reason it's disparaging.

00:28:56.000 I'm not trying to disparage David, I'm just using it as an example because we pulled this channel up.

00:29:00.000 Anti-SLAPP laws basically shut the lawsuit down instantly arguing that my accusations against them are public participation.

00:29:08.000 That we are public figures having a debate in public and we are allowed to.

00:29:11.000 And so you have what's called Times v. Sullivan.

00:29:14.000 That's where if I said someone is a... If I said Carter Banks kicked a dog.

00:29:22.000 He can't sue me!

00:29:23.000 It's crazy, because the actual malice standard, based on the precedent of what's called Time v. Sullivan, he would have to prove I intentionally lied, knowing beforehand he did not kick a dog.

00:29:34.000 Which is almost impossible, because you'd have to get past summary judgment, get to discovery, know where to find the statements, and hope they are.

00:29:45.000 Let's say, I know for a fact that Carter behind the scenes was going, I'm gonna lie about Tim Pool and claim he kicked a dog." 0.69

00:29:51.000 And then I'm like, I know he did it. I heard him say it.

00:29:53.000 Can you prove it? No.

00:29:54.000 But he said it. Too bad. You're out.

00:29:57.000 Now you get that that's that's that's times if V Sullivan, most people are familiar with that. 0.74

00:30:01.000 That's how the left is able to call everyone Nazis and white supremacists.

00:30:05.000 They call Laura Loomer a white nationalist over Jimmy Kimmel just did. 0.90

00:30:08.000 I mean, that may be defamation per se.

00:30:10.000 I think she should sue, because she doesn't need to prove damages in that case. 1.00

00:30:12.000 Defamation per se is when you're accusing someone of something so egregious that it, in and of itself, is damaging.

00:30:19.000 Anti-SLAPP would then be, if I claim Jimmy Kibble kicked a dog, and he sued me over that, then it'd probably get thrown out instantly over anti-SLAPP.

00:30:28.000 There are a lot of states that are just like, nope, you can't.

00:30:31.000 He's talking about public stuff that's going on.

00:30:33.000 When I look at this, I see something very similar.

00:30:36.000 I think this needs to be handled by the Supreme Court.

00:30:38.000 It must be.

00:30:39.000 And the reason for it is, the era of the ubiquitous livestream is new.

00:30:45.000 It has not yet gone to the courts.

00:30:48.000 We need to know where the Supreme Court stands on our right To debate the political candidates in real time.

00:30:56.000 When a candidate stands on stage and says, when I was governor, I did this, and when I'm president, I'll do that.

00:31:01.000 And we go, whoa, whoa, whoa, he didn't do that when he was governor.

00:31:05.000 If there is no public debate allowed, then only wealthy institutions are allowed to control who's being president.

00:31:13.000 It destroys public participation in debates.

00:31:17.000 So, that's where I stand.

00:31:19.000 Rant over, I guess.

00:31:20.000 But we will have some developments in the next week or so as to what happens.

00:31:24.000 And I think if Fox News does decide to take this to court, Here's what I ultimately think.

00:31:31.000 I think Fox News will not.

00:31:32.000 I think they're going to cave, they're going to back down, and they're going to accept it.

00:31:35.000 Because if Fox News does sue, this will go to the Supreme Court, and they will lose.

00:31:41.000 And then it becomes precedent in law, and they'll never have a leg to stand on again.

00:31:44.000 I think that needs to happen, frankly.

00:31:47.000 I think it needs to be at the Supreme Court level.

00:31:49.000 So there's only two ways that can happen.

00:31:52.000 The first is that Fox News files a full-fledged lawsuit against the people who commented.

00:32:00.000 I'm willing to bet they won't do it because they know it opens the door to defeat and it opens the door to them never having any ability to make an argument on proprietary rights again.

00:32:10.000 The other way would be if they overstep their bounds and file multiple strikes against a single individual, giving them damages and standing to a massive degree, which results in a lawsuit being filed against them.

00:32:21.000 Right.

00:32:22.000 In which case, it goes to SCOTUS, they lose, that whole process could take a couple years, but Fox will be destroyed by it.

00:32:29.000 And they're already not doing so great after the Dominion lawsuit.

00:32:32.000 No.

00:32:32.000 Right.

00:32:34.000 The best thing for Fox to do is certainly not this.

00:32:38.000 I would argue the best, the smartest thing Fox could do was actually try and negotiate with anyone who wants to do any kind of commentary some rights or distribution or some monetization package.

00:32:50.000 Or almost like a press pass.

00:32:51.000 Right, I was just thinking that, like an e-press pass.

00:32:53.000 Yeah.

00:32:54.000 I think, I think Fox should make the... So if this goes to SCOTUS, I think they lose.

00:32:58.000 Outright.

00:32:58.000 We have a right to call out politicians who are trying to be president and Fox News should not have the unilateral control over that.

00:33:08.000 It's one thing if the argument was we should have public cameras in those debates and Fox News shouldn't be allowed to have proprietary stream of these things.

00:33:15.000 I don't know about that.

00:33:15.000 My argument is, our show was not a substitute.

00:33:18.000 We were talking over the politicians half the time, you could barely hear what they were saying, we didn't even have the stream on their channel the whole time, and we were actively fact-checking and commenting.

00:33:28.000 I think they lose that one.

00:33:30.000 The smartest move they could make right now would be to go to all the channels and say, how about you give us ad rights when you do it?

00:33:36.000 Right.

00:33:36.000 That way we don't get into a lawsuit.

00:33:38.000 If they go this route, the first strike received by David, by me, and many others who have

00:33:43.000 gotten strikes has no impact whatsoever on the channel.

00:33:46.000 The second strike takes you off the air for 90 days.

00:33:50.000 We're talking between all these channels, I don't know what, $50 to $100 million in

00:33:56.000 Yeah, that's a lot of damages.

00:33:57.000 I don't know if Fox News wants to handle another one of these lawsuits, and I don't know if they can handle a lawsuit from 15 multi-millionaire industry network individuals.

00:34:07.000 I mean, this is an insane thing they're trying to do right now.

00:34:09.000 I think also there's like a free speech consideration.

00:34:11.000 Right.

00:34:12.000 That's so important.

00:34:13.000 You know, we have the right to comment and discuss those who are running for president, and we certainly have the right to do that in real time.

00:34:21.000 Right.

00:34:21.000 We were talking about the bar situation before.

00:34:23.000 Right, I was going to mention that.

00:34:23.000 Like, do you have, like, the debate on, at a bar, and people come buy drinks to, and they watch it.

00:34:29.000 And they do.

00:34:30.000 They do that.

00:34:30.000 Right, right.

00:34:32.000 So they're making money from the debates you can't really, I mean, that would be a shame.

00:34:36.000 This is why I think this would need to go to SCOTUS.

00:34:41.000 This is a federal level issue.

00:34:43.000 Um, during the debates, I can tell you definitively, and everybody knows, bars and other venues have the debate on.

00:34:51.000 You go to a bar, the news is playing.

00:34:52.000 Now their argument is, yes, but we buy cable, you know, and so we can play these things on our TVs.

00:34:58.000 Sure.

00:34:59.000 But what they're doing now is, I didn't charge any money for anyone to come and watch the show.

00:35:03.000 The show was just us commenting on the news.

00:35:05.000 So that means all of these venues that are playing the debate and talking to people about it, they're going to argue that's copyright infringement?

00:35:13.000 Right, or like, you know, when you show movies, you're not supposed to show movies publicly.

00:35:18.000 And they always put that thing at the beginning, like, this is not for public distribution.

00:35:22.000 But that's totally different because that is an entertainment.

00:35:28.000 That is an entertainment that was created by whatever, you know, studio or entity makes the entertainment.

00:35:34.000 A presidential debate is not an entertainment.

00:35:37.000 It's a public service.

00:35:38.000 It's something that voters, in a lot of ways, voters demand because we want to know what our, you know, wannabe elected leaders... Because they're the voters.

00:35:47.000 They're the voters.

00:35:48.000 We want to know what they want to do to our country.

00:35:50.000 We want to know what they have to say about the state of the nation and what should be happening.

00:35:56.000 And I think that that should get out to as many people as possible as want to see it.

00:36:01.000 Yep.

00:36:02.000 Fox News had issued a memo saying that they would go after anybody who did this, and we know that.

00:36:07.000 And I will say it plainly here.

00:36:09.000 We have asserted since the beginning they have no right to make this claim.

00:36:12.000 It is absolutely fair use.

00:36:15.000 What people need to understand is fair use is copyright infringement, but it has an exception in the law.

00:36:22.000 So typically what happens, because I've dealt with this quite a bit, is that When you infringe on someone, so when you engage in what you believe is fair use, you have infringed a copyright, the argument is then, will a judge agree that this is in the public interest in some way?

00:36:37.000 And we know that the typical grounds for fair use, they're not absolute.

00:36:43.000 So one thing people often like to say is the length of the content.

00:36:48.000 Maybe, but not always.

00:36:50.000 Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin famously uploaded a clip from Akilah Hughes without comment,

00:37:00.000 the video was just a rip of her video, reuploaded.

00:37:03.000 She made the argument it was infringement because he didn't transform it, he didn't

00:37:06.000 comment on it, he didn't do anything.

00:37:08.000 Carl said, you are incorrect.

00:37:09.000 The title of the video itself was commentary and thus it is fair use.

00:37:14.000 She sued him.

00:37:15.000 Not only did she lose, she lost the subsequent filing where she had to pay him, I think it was $100,000.

00:37:21.000 Pounds.

00:37:23.000 Pounds.

00:37:25.000 Was it?

00:37:25.000 No, it was dollars.

00:37:26.000 It was in the United States.

00:37:27.000 Oh, really?

00:37:28.000 She sued him in the United States.

00:37:29.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:30.000 And Carl won.

00:37:31.000 Because uploading I don't know if it was the entirety of the video.

00:37:36.000 I think it was several minutes.

00:37:37.000 I think it was like five minutes.

00:37:38.000 And it was just a rip from her channel, quoted the video, and she says, that's not fair use.

00:37:42.000 It was.

00:37:43.000 Simply because he put a title that said like, it was titled something like, the absolute mental state of the left, or something like this.

00:37:49.000 That's all it took.

00:37:51.000 The issue here, a lot of people make these arguments, we're talking about people who want to be president, who are live, real time, lying, misrepresenting facts, and saying things that need to be fact-checked by journalists.

00:38:04.000 And this is the modern era.

00:38:05.000 News is presented in this format.

00:38:08.000 It is no longer a world where, you know, we didn't sneak a camera into Fox News and broadcast it.

00:38:13.000 That's essentially their argument is predicated upon an old school era where someone recaptures their stream and reposts it, whereas we were actually engaging in public discourse.

00:38:24.000 That's something that's going on in a lot of law right now.

00:38:26.000 Like we just saw this Douglas Mackey case, Ricky Vaughn from 2016, and he had posted memes leading up to the 2016 election, joking around that Hillary Clinton voters should text their vote for Hillary Clinton.

00:38:42.000 And the joke, of course, it's basically a political cartoon, right?

00:38:44.000 Which is a point that Jack Posobiec and Gavin Wax were making the other day on Jack's show.

00:38:50.000 But that's essentially what it is.

00:38:52.000 It's a political cartoon.

00:38:53.000 And the idea is that he was making the joke that Hillary Clinton voters aren't smart enough to know whether or not they could vote by text message.

00:39:04.000 Now, of course, as it turns out, in the trial against him, it turned out that the Department of Justice could not prove that anyone was harmed at all by this joke.

00:39:15.000 No one voted by text.

00:39:19.000 Because as a result of this meme that he posted, yet the Department of Justice and the FBI investigated the meme, which was like, vote for Hillary Clinton by text, you know.

00:39:28.000 It was like, it was like, vote from home, text here.

00:39:33.000 Right, right, right.

00:39:33.000 And it was like, and so the Department of Justice and the FBI, the FBI investigated, the Department of Justice alleged that it was an ad.

00:39:41.000 Not a meme, not a joke.

00:39:42.000 And do you remember the Democrat woman who did the same thing?

00:39:44.000 Yeah, the Democrat woman did the same thing. 1.00

00:39:45.000 We documented that.

00:39:46.000 Every time we've covered it at Post Millennial, we document and a Democrat did the exact same thing, saying that Trump voters should vote by text message.

00:39:54.000 That woman was not prosecuted.

00:39:56.000 She was not investigated by the FBI.

00:39:59.000 Douglas Mackey was.

00:40:00.000 He was convicted.

00:40:02.000 Seven months.

00:40:02.000 There it is.

00:40:03.000 We have this from the Postmillennial.

00:40:05.000 She said, hey Trump supporters, skip poll lines at election 2016 and text in your vote.

00:40:09.000 Text votes are legit or vote tomorrow on Super Wednesday.

00:40:12.000 So text votes are legit should have put her in criminal territory relative to what this guy did. 0.77

00:40:19.000 And there's his too.

00:40:20.000 This one just says, avoid the line, vote from home, text Hillary.

00:40:23.000 I'm with her, go Hillary. 0.99

00:40:26.000 It's a meme.

00:40:27.000 It's a joke.

00:40:28.000 And the funny thing is, this is 2020.

00:40:30.000 When did he post that?

00:40:32.000 That was 2016.

00:40:33.000 But was it after hers?

00:40:36.000 I don't know.

00:40:38.000 She said text votes are legit.

00:40:40.000 Right.

00:40:41.000 I suppose the argument is she didn't include a number to call.

00:40:44.000 Or did she?

00:40:46.000 Because it's a video.

00:40:48.000 There's a video, but the video was taken down, which is why we have that.

00:40:52.000 Which is why we just have her screenshot.

00:40:57.000 But yeah, so he posted this.

00:40:58.000 The Department of Justice claimed that it was an ad and didn't acknowledge that it was a meme, accused him of conspiracy against rights, which is of course what Donald Trump is being accused of by the DOJ right now over January 6th.

00:41:12.000 He was convicted of essentially election interference and he's supposed to spend seven months in prison over this.

00:41:20.000 We actually got a message from a fact checker today being like, can you provide any evidence for your claim that he's being sentenced to seven months in prison over a meme?

00:41:30.000 And it's like, why, yes, we can provide all of the documentation that we have, as well as the Department of Justice.

00:41:36.000 A press release about the conviction in the first place that says he posted this ad and it was investigated by the FBI.

00:41:44.000 It's absolutely insane, but it's another First Amendment rights issue.

00:41:48.000 And we have had so many of these recently.

00:41:51.000 We see in the cases against Donald Trump where he's being slapped with gag orders.

00:41:56.000 He's not allowed to speak publicly about various elements of the case.

00:42:00.000 And it's basically because the prosecutors don't like getting made fun of on Truth Social That's the issue.

00:42:05.000 They don't like that.

00:42:07.000 They feel, you know, they feel insulted.

00:42:10.000 When did they actually file this?

00:42:12.000 Because it was from the 2016 election.

00:42:15.000 It was from the 2016 election.

00:42:17.000 It's a meme about it.

00:42:18.000 But does it say they didn't even file a complaint until 2021?

00:42:23.000 So they waited until after 2020 to go after him, like after the whole election stuff that went on with Trump.

00:42:29.000 Oh, for something it didn't even affect the 2016 election for the 22 or the 2020 election, which is interesting, which is dangerous to which means they're hunting people down from the old school Trump era, people that helped Trump get elected the first time they're going after them.

00:42:44.000 Even now, so like out of pardon territory.

00:42:46.000 Yeah, just just in case.

00:42:49.000 Yep.

00:42:51.000 Yeah, it was USA Today that reached out to us.

00:42:53.000 But what, let's see, when did they do it?

00:42:57.000 They just, they just spoke about the sentencing.

00:43:00.000 And they said that, they said, as proven at trial by 2016, Mackey had established an audience on Twitter with approximately 58,000 followers.

00:43:11.000 A February 2016 analysis by the IT Media Lab ranked Mackey as one of the most significant influencers on the then upcoming presidential election.

00:43:20.000 So they were using that against him, like the fact that he had a platform, the fact that he had a lot of followers.

00:43:25.000 But his platform followers follow him because he makes memes probably.

00:43:28.000 Because he makes memes.

00:43:29.000 Would they be voting for Hillary by text?

00:43:32.000 Right.

00:43:33.000 Yeah.

00:43:34.000 That's a bad argument.

00:43:34.000 And we had to explain the joke to the fact checker.

00:43:37.000 We had to be like, the joke was!

00:43:39.000 But these are contemporary political cartoons.

00:43:42.000 That's what's going on here.

00:43:43.000 So the point is, this guy's followers are not voting for Hillary at all.

00:43:43.000 Right.

00:43:46.000 Right.

00:43:48.000 Exactly.

00:43:48.000 Well, he needs to go to jail.

00:43:50.000 And now he's gonna go to jail.

00:43:51.000 What they said, For example, on November 1st, 2016, in or around the same time that Mackey was sending tweets suggesting the importance of limiting black turnout, so they're using a racial thing, the defendant tweeted an image depicting an African-American woman standing in front of an African-Americans for Hillary sign.

00:44:10.000 The ad stated, avoid the line, vote from home.

00:44:13.000 And they say that that's deceptive and they're using that racial thing as though that like somehow makes it worse.

00:44:19.000 It's got like a different argument than the one that they're trying to use.

00:44:22.000 It's exactly, yeah.

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 And then they complain that he also tweeted the same image in Spanish.

00:44:30.000 But I mean, that's actually kind of funny.

00:44:32.000 That may be the only one they have.

00:44:33.000 It's amusing.

00:44:35.000 You know, it's amusing.

00:44:38.000 So yeah, I think what is happening to Timcast over this Fox News thing, that's definitely a 1A thing.

00:44:46.000 Well, I was thinking about it too, and it's like, if you just muted the video and had the transcript, it would be...

00:44:52.000 Like 80%, it would be, you could not even get the debate through that.

00:44:58.000 It would be mostly commentary and jumbled words around, I mean, you wouldn't be able to, it's not the same thing at all.

00:45:05.000 Yeah, the transcript of what we said.

00:45:06.000 Right.

00:45:07.000 Right, yeah, definitely.

00:45:08.000 Right, and the people who are like, I can't hear what they're saying, I'm like, then go watch the debate, I guess?

00:45:13.000 Yeah, we can just go turn on ABC yourself, you know?

00:45:15.000 But this thing with Douglas Mackey is a whole other thing.

00:45:19.000 I mean, 2024 is gonna get nuts.

00:45:23.000 I strongly recommend everybody watch this morning's Culture War.

00:45:27.000 If you did not, you need to.

00:45:29.000 It was with Dr. Robert Epstein and Robert Bose.

00:45:32.000 And we were discussing, mostly it was Dr. Epstein discussing what Google does, and you gotta watch it, two hours of him breaking down how Google's cheating.

00:45:44.000 Google's cheating on the election.

00:45:45.000 Well, so, it's really, really simple.

00:45:49.000 He said that they have hard data tracking this, admissible in court, provable.

00:45:56.000 On election day, 100% of Democrat voters get a notification, go vote.

00:46:01.000 Really?

00:46:02.000 And 59% of Republicans get the same thing.

00:46:06.000 That is enough.

00:46:08.000 It doesn't matter if, and I think that may have been Facebook, one of the big tech companies had done something like this.

00:46:13.000 It doesn't matter if they control what you see or hear.

00:46:17.000 All that matters is they remind you.

00:46:19.000 On the day of, Republicans get, don't forget to go buy pizza and wings today!

00:46:24.000 Don't miss out on the new, uh, imagine this, it's election day, and you wake up in the morning, you're like, am I forgetting something?

00:46:30.000 And you look at your phone, and you're a Trump supporter, and it says, major discount at wings, you know, wings store, and huge party available, get, you know, 10 cent wings today!

00:46:40.000 And you're like, whoa!

00:46:42.000 You call your buddies, like, hey man, they got 10 cent wings!

00:46:44.000 We should go hang out, and you know, and watch the game, and like, let's go!

00:46:49.000 Totally forgetting it's election day.

00:46:50.000 And the Democrats wake up and look at their phone and it says, go and vote right now.

00:46:53.000 And they go, oh, that's right.

00:46:55.000 Voting today.

00:46:55.000 It's all it takes.

00:46:57.000 If they can get 5% of Republicans not to vote by doing something like that, it's done.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, that's enough.

00:47:03.000 Yep.

00:47:04.000 And between that and the intensive suppression that there was in 2020 of anything that would indicate Joe Biden was a giant liar with a history of family corruption, you know.

00:47:16.000 Okay, so they were putting ads on social media, like reminding Democrats to go out and vote?

00:47:21.000 I wouldn't call them ads.

00:47:23.000 What were they, like reminders?

00:47:23.000 You get a notification?

00:47:24.000 From Facebook itself?

00:47:26.000 Like, yeah, when you go on Facebook, you've never gotten these?

00:47:30.000 Yeah, I have.

00:47:32.000 It was like, yeah, I guess you're right, but they were targeting mostly Democrats.

00:47:36.000 Well, what he was saying is that, I don't know which platform he mentioned did this, but he said Democrats, 100% of the Democrats in their study got notifications to go vote, and only 59% of Republicans did.

00:47:47.000 Interesting.

00:47:48.000 Yeah, that's all it takes.

00:47:49.000 And then there's, of course, the information manipulation, which everyone is mostly focused on, but you got to understand how simple it is.

00:47:56.000 Now, the interesting thing is, he said, When Ted Cruz filed a letter, basically calling, I think, calling Google out for this, he said, we watched in Georgia, the mechanism by which the bias is created, turn off.

00:48:11.000 They're tracking what he said were ephemeral, what they call ephemeral experiences.

00:48:14.000 And this is crazy.

00:48:16.000 This is crazy stuff.

00:48:17.000 Here's how it works.

00:48:19.000 Everything you do online, mostly recordable and tracked.

00:48:21.000 You post a tweet, someone can archive it.

00:48:24.000 However, the Google search results that you get will never be repeated.

00:48:28.000 You get that one time, that image that you see on that page is not stored or archived anywhere, and it's gone in a moment.

00:48:35.000 Really?

00:48:36.000 Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be stored.

00:48:39.000 No, but yeah, I remember realizing how crazy it is that my Google search results for the exact same search terms were different than somebody else's.

00:48:47.000 And they'll be different for you the next time you do it.

00:48:49.000 Yeah.

00:48:50.000 And so with that... Why is that?

00:48:52.000 Why did he say that was?

00:48:53.000 So, well, that's just the nature by which Google operates.

00:48:56.000 When you search, the algorithm will generate a list of possibilities, and if you search again, it may change.

00:49:03.000 But because these things are ephemeral, what happens is...

00:49:07.000 Google, I suppose the argument is, you can search for Donald Trump.

00:49:13.000 Google can send you the most insane things ever. 1.00

00:49:16.000 Trump is Hitler, Trump is evil. 1.00

00:49:18.000 And then you're like, oh my God. 1.00

00:49:20.000 No one saw that it happened.

00:49:22.000 You will never see it again, and you can't prove it.

00:49:24.000 So, they thought, this data is not being tracked, but it's manipulating people's perspectives.

00:49:30.000 Perception.

00:49:31.000 So what he started doing, what they do now is, they have a whole bunch of volunteers, tens of thousands I think, twelve thousand or whatever, and they actually track all the searches and everything everyone's seeing, and they've actually created a database proving the bias, and tracking it in real time.

00:49:46.000 So when Ted Cruz sent this letter, he watched the lopsidedness of Democrats being given positive information, Republicans being, you know, negative information.

00:49:53.000 Then Ted Cruz sends a letter and it's gone.

00:49:56.000 And I think Zach Voorhees, a whistleblower who came out to Veritas, made a similar argument.

00:50:03.000 Made a similar argument that Google can turn it off and on and manipulate elections and all that.

00:50:10.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 It'll be interesting to see what happens.

00:50:13.000 They pick what goes at the top, and you can't tell me they don't, because... What's really weird, too, is Douglas Murray's Madness of Crowds has a whole chapter about how when you type in, like, married couple, it will show you, like, two men and a baby or something weird or different.

00:50:37.000 Interracial couples.

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 Yeah, it's kind of like agenda-driven in the... Yeah, you think?

00:50:42.000 You think?

00:50:42.000 I haven't seen a commercial with all white people in it since the Canadian suicide commercials.

00:50:48.000 Oh, and the army ones recently are coming out.

00:50:50.000 They're white.

00:50:51.000 But there is absolutely an agenda behind everything because radical leftists run Silicon Valley.

00:50:56.000 They run the big tech industries.

00:50:58.000 They run pretty much everything.

00:51:00.000 That's why it was so important when Elon Musk took over Twitter.

00:51:03.000 It was like one of our guys like taking over like a giant and kind of leveling the playing field.

00:51:10.000 And that's what we have to do.

00:51:12.000 We have to continue to build.

00:51:13.000 We have to continue to start like a hostile takeover of these tech companies.

00:51:18.000 Well, or the parallel economy, which I think is so great, you know, to see alternative ways like, you know, the company that Tim was just highlighting at the top, the cool wood products.

00:51:30.000 Don't buy them from Ikea, buy them from this guy, you know?

00:51:33.000 I think that's a better way to go.

00:51:35.000 Right.

00:51:35.000 I was recently, so I travel a lot for work and I was walking down the Whatever you call it, the jetway to get onto the plane, and you're standing there waiting to get on the plane, and it's just all advertisements of, you know, why our airline is the best one.

00:51:51.000 And there was an interracial couple, there was a gay couple, there were like all of these, everyone who was in it was sort of like alternative to what you would traditionally have seen, like the more stereotypical thing.

00:52:06.000 And I was like, it's just so obviously intentionally done, you know, these changes that are being made to affect our impression.

00:52:16.000 And I think that it's true, like I saw this recently, it was like most of these ads are geared toward middle-aged white women.

00:52:24.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:52:25.000 That's funny.

00:52:25.000 Who are like all on SSRIs anyway.

00:52:28.000 Disturbed, right?

00:52:29.000 The general marketing idea that we, so you'll see a lot of these commercials where it's an interracial couple with mixed race kids.

00:52:37.000 And there's a lot of people who think it's a conspiracy to like get white people to stop having kids or something or to, you know, mixed race date or something like that.

00:52:46.000 No.

00:52:46.000 It's actually really simple because I know a bunch of marketing guys.

00:52:49.000 And when this, before this stuff even started happening, The conversation was occurring in these rooms, marketing rooms.

00:52:55.000 They're basically saying, we have a marketing budget of $10 million.

00:52:59.000 We need to hit these demographics.

00:53:02.000 And they'd be like, okay, what's our what's our strategy for selling, you know, insert product in the white neighborhoods of Detroit?

00:53:09.000 What's our strategy for black neighborhoods, and then millennial?

00:53:12.000 The brilliant millennial goes, why don't we just have like a black wife and a white husband? 1.00

00:53:18.000 Because then you can sell to the black neighborhood and the white neighborhood. 0.99

00:53:20.000 And they were like, that's a good point.

00:53:22.000 We can save costs by doing one commercial if we show a black person and a white person in the same shot enjoying a meal with our product.

00:53:30.000 And they're like, that's a great idea.

00:53:32.000 And it doesn't work.

00:53:33.000 The exact opposite happens.

00:53:34.000 It becomes relatable to no one.

00:53:36.000 But that was a lot of the mentality of these marketing firms was like, how can we minimize the cost of production and maximize our reach?

00:53:45.000 They thought white liberals are gonna eat this stuff up and it'll play really well in minority communities because, you know, interracial couples.

00:53:53.000 And it's like, bro, interracial people are like 3% of this country. 0.60

00:53:57.000 You have just dramatically removed yourself from what people would relate to.

00:54:02.000 I'm sorry that it's true.

00:54:03.000 People just forget that it's a budget thing.

00:54:05.000 It has mainly to do with saving money.

00:54:07.000 It's more effective.

00:54:08.000 It seems well-intentioned, but not thought through.

00:54:10.000 Yeah, it's not going to work on paper, even though on paper it looks like it does work.

00:54:14.000 In reality, it's not going to work.

00:54:15.000 In practice, it doesn't work.

00:54:16.000 Look at Victoria's Secret.

00:54:18.000 They switched back!

00:54:19.000 Fascinating, right?

00:54:20.000 So they got rid of the angels, the sexy women in lingerie. 0.98

00:54:20.000 Great example. 0.98

00:54:23.000 In like 2018-ish?

00:54:25.000 Yeah, 2020.

00:54:25.000 They put Megan Rapinoe in.

00:54:27.000 No, no, it was 2021.

00:54:27.000 Yeah, and they put Megan Rapinoe in.

00:54:30.000 Yep, and some fat women, and they were like, this is what women want. 1.00

00:54:32.000 And trans, a lot of trans, a lot of men advertising women's lingerie. 0.94

00:54:36.000 Remember Calvin Klein? He had big morbidly obese people. 0.63

00:54:40.000 And so the, and if you go to the mall, you'll see their models are just morbidly obese

00:54:45.000 and they have morbidly obese mannequins.

00:54:46.000 The argument being made was, this is more representative.

00:54:50.000 So we're trying to target real women, right?

00:54:53.000 Well, why do this, you know, these, these sexy models, women don't, aren't like that. 1.00

00:54:58.000 They want to see real people. 1.00

00:55:00.000 These marketing people are dumb as a box of rocks. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Yeah, it's kind of true. 1.00

00:55:04.000 As someone who has a marketing degree and went through a big school in the United States, most people that are in marketing are there because their dad told them to or they just don't know what they're doing in school.

00:55:13.000 They're not really in it for the thing.

00:55:15.000 Victoria's Secret reverts and goes back to sexy women, realizing that, okay, that didn't work.

00:55:20.000 And I think we'll see a lot of the same thing in advertisements.

00:55:22.000 They're gonna say, okay, you know, like, look, this area in this city is 90% white, and we're trying to sell them a product.

00:55:32.000 We want them to think, that's me, and I should use that product.

00:55:35.000 So if you create an experience to them that is more foreign, figuratively and literally, then that's not resonating with them.

00:55:42.000 Yeah, it doesn't resonate with me.

00:55:43.000 I remember seeing the, I remember seeing the ads of like men wearing lingerie.

00:55:49.000 Oh yeah.

00:55:50.000 And like, it's like trans people in lingerie or like very large women in lingerie 1.00

00:55:55.000 or even just in regular clothes.

00:55:57.000 Seeing Dylan Mulvaney in a Kate Spade dress, like I'm never gonna buy that dress.

00:56:01.000 When I look at clothes, I don't know about you Lauren, but when I look at clothes and I think like,

00:56:06.000 oh, it looks great on that person.

00:56:08.000 And then you sort of have this in your mind, like if I buy that, I will look great too.

00:56:12.000 You don't wanna see how bad the clothes look on really fat people, because then you look at it

00:56:16.000 and you're like, oh, I'm gonna like fatten it too.

00:56:19.000 I'm not looking at an extra large person thinking, yeah, I need that.

00:56:23.000 I need to look just like that.

00:56:24.000 But it was crazy.

00:56:25.000 But it was also, what was, but obviously there was an agenda behind it because they cannot expect that to, like, increase sales.

00:56:33.000 You know, if we put extra large, very offensive looking people in our clothes, like how, this is not going to increase sales.

00:56:40.000 Which brings you back to the agenda.

00:56:41.000 It's all about the agenda.

00:56:43.000 The agenda that, oh, obesity is beautiful.

00:56:46.000 Oh, to be, Um, you know, way overweight and unhealthy.

00:56:49.000 That's how you need to be in order to get the spread in Victoria's Secret.

00:56:53.000 Same with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:56:55.000 You know, if you are a male who decides to dress as a, you know, dress as a woman, hey, you get a Bud Light deal. 0.87

00:57:01.000 You got a Tampax deal.

00:57:03.000 He got everything under his gun.

00:57:04.000 He got a Tampax deal.

00:57:05.000 He did.

00:57:06.000 He got a Tampax deal.

00:57:07.000 Yes.

00:57:07.000 It's amazing.

00:57:07.000 That was so ridiculous.

00:57:09.000 So I think what we're seeing now is All of these women, liberal women, claiming they believe these things, have been lying the whole time. 0.98

00:57:16.000 And Victoria's Secret is proof.

00:57:18.000 The proof is, sales declined.

00:57:20.000 Hey, hold on.

00:57:21.000 Victoria's Secret didn't pull a Bud Light.

00:57:23.000 I mean, they kind of did.

00:57:24.000 But there was no big boycott, no big backlash.

00:57:26.000 Women didn't go around saying, no more Victoria's Secret! 1.00

00:57:29.000 They just silently stopped buying it.

00:57:31.000 They just stopped buying it.

00:57:32.000 While cheering for it.

00:57:33.000 These liberal leftist women were like, yay! 1.00

00:57:36.000 I'm not buying that.

00:57:36.000 And what does it show?

00:57:40.000 Here's how I think it works.

00:57:41.000 The beautiful women that you see in lingerie, women are like, I understand that woman is objectively beautiful.

00:57:47.000 I want to be objectively beautiful like her.

00:57:50.000 I want to wear what she's wearing and be objectively beautiful.

00:57:54.000 But when you put morbidly obese women and people like Megan Rapinoe who is Look, she's a great athlete, props to her and all that, but 1.00

00:58:01.000 she is not what men typically and stereotypically are attracted to.

00:58:06.000 And she doesn't want that.

00:58:07.000 That's fine for her.

00:58:08.000 I'm not arguing anything.

00:58:09.000 I'm just saying, women, then look at Megan Rapinoe and go, she is not objectively beautiful. 1.00

00:58:14.000 I do not want to look like her.

00:58:16.000 Stops buying the product.

00:58:17.000 Clothes are aspirational.

00:58:18.000 You buy clothes because you want them to make you look good and you want to feel good.

00:58:23.000 And you want to feel like you're part of whatever the beautiful thing is.

00:58:27.000 How many women buy one size smaller because they're like, I'm going to fit in this? 1.00

00:58:31.000 I literally never do that.

00:58:33.000 And I just have to return it.

00:58:34.000 That would never happen.

00:58:39.000 There are...

00:58:40.000 That just makes me feel worse.

00:58:42.000 Looking at Victoria's Secret models, okay, well, I'm not a woman, but

00:58:46.000 my assumption is the reason why we have movies where

00:58:50.000 the dudes are massive, like, you know, Chris

00:58:54.000 Hemsworth in Thor, for instance, that you always see these stories

00:58:58.000 where, actually, Jason Momoa Momoa?

00:59:02.000 What's his name?

00:59:04.000 Lisa Bonet's ex-husband.

00:59:06.000 They posted a photo of him at the beach and they were like, he's looking pretty fat.

00:59:10.000 He wasn't.

00:59:11.000 It's just that he dehydrates himself so that his skin gets real thin.

00:59:15.000 You can see his muscles so he looks ripped.

00:59:17.000 But then when he starts drinking water again... Dehydration?

00:59:20.000 Yes.

00:59:21.000 So when you see men in movies and they're looking all ripped and their veins are bulging and they have muscles and they're like grr, they don't drink water for two days.

00:59:28.000 Oh, awful!

00:59:29.000 That's so awful!

00:59:30.000 Because I would much rather have a hydrated puffy guy.

00:59:34.000 Yep, and then you'll see like, it looks like love handles, but it's thick skin and they have some fat on their body, but to get in shape for the movie they eat Ridiculous amounts of fish and chicken all day every day work out relentlessly and then dehydrate right before they film the scene.

00:59:52.000 The reason we go to those extremes is because you're trying to create something beyond the normal, something aspirational.

00:59:58.000 That looks like a heroic, very, very strong man.

01:00:01.000 I imagine it's similar in a certain way for women with like Victoria's Secret and these other companies.

01:00:06.000 They say, we all know that men and women find that beautiful and we want to be as beautiful as we can be so we want to be like them.

01:00:14.000 That's why I think the sales drop when they put morbidly obese women. 1.00

01:00:17.000 Cause like, well there's a bunch of fat women. 1.00

01:00:19.000 They don't want to look like that? 0.93

01:00:20.000 No, they want to look like supermodels. 1.00

01:00:22.000 They want to improve themselves and be better.

01:00:24.000 They want to look better and be more attractive.

01:00:26.000 Men want to look better and be more attractive?

01:00:28.000 Men want to do more pull-ups or whatever. 1.00

01:00:31.000 But then you see it all fall apart.

01:00:32.000 Right.

01:00:33.000 And also, I think, like, for example, with Victoria's Secret, like, guys buy stuff for their, like, wives and girlfriends and stuff like that.

01:00:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:39.000 Yeah, I was just thinking that.

01:00:40.000 And they're looking at Big Bon Quiche over there, just thinking, I don't know about that.

01:00:44.000 So, like, they want, like, the good-looking stuff, because a lot of men buy stuff for their girls, too, and they don't think about that. 0.97

01:00:50.000 That's a really good point, too.

01:00:51.000 The guy walks to the mall, and he's like, I want to, like, my wife, you know, I want to get her something nice, and they're like, take a look at this, and there's, like, a 300-pound morbidly obese mannequin, and they're just like, she would take this as an insult.

01:01:01.000 Like, you can't do that.

01:01:03.000 Let's talk about this story here from the Daily Mail.

01:01:06.000 Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must still pay $1 billion in damages to San Diego families and can't hide behind his bankruptcy protection judge rules.

01:01:16.000 This is crazy.

01:01:17.000 They're saying that bankruptcy is not enough.

01:01:20.000 So the general idea of a bankruptcy is, hey, We need to prioritize what we're paying back to keep the company operating.

01:01:28.000 If they begin to seize his assets, InfoWars will cease to exist.

01:01:32.000 That was always the point.

01:01:33.000 I'm not surprised this is happening.

01:01:35.000 It's going to get a lot worse in 2024.

01:01:37.000 They're going to start going after everybody.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:42.000 But there's kind of part of it with the whole YouTube thing.

01:01:44.000 It's going to start happening.

01:01:45.000 Yeah.

01:01:46.000 It's all going to start happening by whatever means.

01:01:48.000 This is different from, you know, Fox.

01:01:50.000 The thing about Fox News and the strike, I think this is just something that needs to be, the precedent has not been set on a new technology and a change in how the public operates.

01:01:59.000 Right.

01:02:00.000 So this is one of the first elections where you have ubiquitous live streams with prominent personalities who dominate prime time.

01:02:08.000 So, of course, the argument from Fox is like, hey, what do you think you're doing?

01:02:12.000 And it's like, welcome to the new world of public participation.

01:02:15.000 This technology exists.

01:02:17.000 People have always played the debates and argued and debated them and fact-checked them to the public.

01:02:23.000 Now it's happening in the digital world.

01:02:24.000 Right.

01:02:25.000 If Fox News has their way, it reverses the internet.

01:02:28.000 You know, hey, maybe then there's no living the pot and eat the bugs because you can't have digital broadcasts and digital public debate.

01:02:34.000 They'd get rid of it.

01:02:35.000 This is different.

01:02:37.000 Alex Jones' opinions.

01:02:38.000 Ten years ago, he had very bad ones.

01:02:41.000 He's got to pay a billion dollars.

01:02:42.000 Okay, fine.

01:02:44.000 He lost.

01:02:45.000 They had a summary judgment against him.

01:02:47.000 He files for bankruptcy.

01:02:48.000 This will destroy the company.

01:02:49.000 It'll get all my employees fired. 1.00

01:02:50.000 And the judge says, so what?

01:02:53.000 This is lawfare.

01:02:54.000 This is... They are trying to destroy Alex Jones.

01:02:57.000 And you know, you had talked earlier, like, said earlier about, like, defamation lawsuits.

01:03:02.000 Now, they have to be said in malice.

01:03:04.000 And I truly don't believe he said those things in malice back then.

01:03:08.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:03:09.000 I think he truly believed them back then, and how did they get him?

01:03:13.000 Actual malice means you intentionally lied, you knew what you were saying was false.

01:03:16.000 Yeah, so you say something intentionally knowing it was false.

01:03:19.000 So it absolutely is, because, like, a lot of us, like, There's a lot of misinformation.

01:03:25.000 There's a lot of stuff out there.

01:03:26.000 We say things, we see things, and we make a statement believing it at the time.

01:03:30.000 He didn't say that in malice.

01:03:32.000 He truly believed what he was saying at the time.

01:03:34.000 And now they're still coming after him ten years later.

01:03:37.000 And he never even said anything.

01:03:39.000 Alex Jones never said anything that stated, oh yeah, I knew it wasn't true, and I said it anyway.

01:03:44.000 So it really is just a continued weaponization of the justice system to shut down all dissent.

01:03:50.000 To shut down digital media because they're coming for you next because cable television is dying and digital is the future and anybody who has a name for themselves or make some really good points or actually does some damage on culture, taking back the culture, they're going to try and come for you.

01:04:05.000 So that's just what they do.

01:04:07.000 So you have to, you know, and honestly, apologizing to they come after you when you start apologizing

01:04:14.000 they smell blood never apologize never they have smell blood and they will 0.79

01:04:18.000 take you all the way down. That's your whole struggle session thing. Don't

01:04:20.000 apologize in a struggle session. Yep. Just sit there and take it and leave. That's true. That's it. Why

01:04:26.000 did they say that he can't file for bankruptcy and protect himself that way? I mean I assume

01:04:31.000 the reason is arbitrary Quote, the families are pleased with the court ruling that Jones's malicious conduct will find no safe harbor in the bankruptcy court, said Christopher Mattei, a Connecticut lawyer.

01:04:40.000 As a result, Jones will continue to be accountable for his actions.

01:04:43.000 On his site, yada yada.

01:04:45.000 I don't know.

01:04:46.000 That seems absurd.

01:04:47.000 Also, where is he supposed to get a billion dollars if he only has 14 million?

01:04:50.000 It's like saying, we know you don't have it, but that's not good enough.

01:04:55.000 And how is he supposed to get it if they shut down his channel?

01:04:58.000 That's the only way he makes money.

01:04:59.000 Because that's not what it's about.

01:05:02.000 So they just want to scuttle him.

01:05:04.000 This is, I think this proves it.

01:05:06.000 If it was really about recovering damages, they'd say bankruptcy must protect Alex Jones, and then we will garnish whatever wages and profit he would get off his show.

01:05:16.000 Right.

01:05:16.000 But if they're saying no bankruptcy protection, then InfoWars ceases to exist, and that's it.

01:05:21.000 End of story.

01:05:21.000 No money for anybody.

01:05:22.000 Yeah, it's kind of like a by any means possible kind of thing is what I'm saying.

01:05:26.000 No matter what, whatever they can do.

01:05:29.000 I don't know if it says what is explanation for why bankruptcy doesn't apply.

01:05:34.000 At least here it just says the judge said it.

01:05:36.000 So it is.

01:05:36.000 I don't know what the argument is.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 When was this ruled?

01:05:40.000 Was this today?

01:05:41.000 Today.

01:05:42.000 Really?

01:05:42.000 This just happened today?

01:05:42.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 I knew that they, like, initially were suing him for the entire, like, it was, like, the same amount as the military defense.

01:05:49.000 Yeah, the economy of France or something like that?

01:05:50.000 Yeah, it was, like, the defense budget of the United States, something ridiculous.

01:05:55.000 And it was, you know, I mean, they're just trying to take him down, you know.

01:05:59.000 I hope Alex stays strong.

01:06:01.000 We're with you, man.

01:06:02.000 Like, this is not good.

01:06:05.000 And they're just like, it's not even legal.

01:06:07.000 It's not legal what they're doing.

01:06:09.000 And I hope he appeals it.

01:06:11.000 I know that different states have different, you know, standards on how much you can sue a person for.

01:06:17.000 So like in the state of Connecticut, like even though it was in Connecticut, in some places like they couldn't sue him for more than a certain amount legally.

01:06:25.000 So I don't know if this still applies to that or if that just overrules all of that.

01:06:30.000 I'd have to read it.

01:06:32.000 Even CNN doesn't give the reasoning behind why he's not protected from, like, bankruptcy.

01:06:37.000 This doesn't make sense.

01:06:39.000 It just says, the judge said it.

01:06:41.000 The families filed the motion because they thought he wouldn't pay, and then it goes on to explain the past lawsuit.

01:06:47.000 I love the logic behind that.

01:06:48.000 We thought we wouldn't pay, so we just charged you a bunch more money.

01:06:51.000 Right.

01:06:52.000 Millions and millions more dollars.

01:06:53.000 Well, no, they're saying we thought he wouldn't pay because of the bankruptcy, so we want the judge to say he can't use bankruptcy, and the judge said, okay.

01:07:01.000 Oh, wow.

01:07:02.000 But it doesn't explain with the judges why.

01:07:06.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:07:08.000 Why is this one bypassing bankruptcy?

01:07:10.000 I still don't think the family would get a single penny.

01:07:12.000 And it's because if Jones goes, if Infowars is out of business, there's no money.

01:07:16.000 Right.

01:07:17.000 Exactly.

01:07:17.000 Most of the debt that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy is child support, alimony, unpaid taxes, and student loan debt.

01:07:27.000 Most other things, according to Investopedia, can be alleviated through bankruptcy.

01:07:33.000 Yeah, so I wonder what makes this special.

01:07:36.000 Yeah.

01:07:37.000 You know, like what the, what the law is there.

01:07:39.000 And he fired, filed chapter 11, is that what he did?

01:07:43.000 Or was it?

01:07:45.000 Yeah, chapter 11.

01:07:45.000 Chapter 11.

01:07:48.000 He says, uh, those, uh, okay, so Lopez ruled the protections do not apply over findings of willful and malicious conduct.

01:07:54.000 Oh, that's another one.

01:07:55.000 Here it is.

01:07:55.000 It says, debts for willful and malicious injury to another person or property.

01:08:01.000 Willful and malicious here means deliberate and without just cause.

01:08:03.000 So that's one too.

01:08:07.000 Debts for death or personal injury.

01:08:09.000 It was a default ruling.

01:08:10.000 Caused by the debtor.

01:08:11.000 That doesn't seem reasonable either.

01:08:11.000 Yeah.

01:08:12.000 There was no trial over this.

01:08:14.000 There was only a settlement hearing.

01:08:17.000 Jones never actually got to argue any of his case.

01:08:21.000 That does not seem... How did we get to that point, though? 0.99

01:08:25.000 I mean, look, people keep saying, oh, you know, civil war is a stupid thing to say. 0.57

01:08:30.000 And it's like, dude, it's not just that Trump has been indicted on like 91 or 94 counts. 0.96

01:08:35.000 It's not just that they've arrested his lawyers.

01:08:37.000 It's not just that a couple of his lawyers have just been sentenced to five and six years of probation for being his lawyers.

01:08:45.000 It's not just that they're going after Alex Jones in what is clearly going to destroy a media outlet, and that he got no trial for it.

01:08:53.000 It's not just that Donald Trump was found in a summary judgment to have committed fraud without a trial in New York.

01:09:00.000 It's not just that a judge said Donald Trump's properties are worth a fraction of what they're actually worth, even to the protest of finance experts and real estate experts.

01:09:11.000 It is not just That they have been targeting Trump supporters, J6ers, solitary confinement. 1.00

01:09:18.000 It's not just that far leftists have received no penalty for the hundreds who stormed the Capitol recently.

01:09:24.000 Light slap on the wrist.

01:09:25.000 It's not just that Ricky Vaughn, Douglas Mackey, gets seven months and a Democrat who did the same thing gets nothing.

01:09:34.000 Should the list go on?

01:09:36.000 Should the list go on?

01:09:37.000 It goes on endlessly.

01:09:38.000 No, I'm just saying there is so much evidence that the machine is trying to crush and destroy you for political reasons.

01:09:46.000 To argue that we are not entering one of the most dangerous times in this country's history is ludicrous, and you'd have to forget every yesterday to believe we are not headed towards something truly dark.

01:10:00.000 Now, I kind of don't think we're losing, to be completely honest, like I said.

01:10:03.000 There's a lot of reasons to think that we are winning.

01:10:04.000 But the desperation is becoming palpable, and I don't know to what degree this goes.

01:10:09.000 It may just be Trump wins, and then, oh, there we go.

01:10:12.000 But you guys, watch the Culture War episode we did this morning.

01:10:14.000 I think it's episode 34, it may be?

01:10:16.000 With Dr. Robert Epstein, as he breaks down the machine of Google, Facebook, Big Tech, and how they are controlling what you think, and they know everything about what you're doing.

01:10:26.000 We've talked about it.

01:10:27.000 Facebook can predict if you're going to quit your job.

01:10:29.000 Facebook can predict if you're going to go have a bite to eat.

01:10:32.000 Facebook knows what restaurant you're going to before you even know.

01:10:35.000 Because the algorithms, the AI, it knows all of the characteristics about you and then it can formulate these probabilities and know exactly what you're going to do.

01:10:43.000 That's why when you'll be, you could be thinking something and then you see an ad for it and you didn't say it out loud and you didn't say anything to anybody.

01:10:49.000 You're just thinking it.

01:10:50.000 That is freaky.

01:10:51.000 I hate when that happens and it's freaky.

01:10:53.000 People think that the reason an ad will appear on Instagram, like you're talking with your buddy and you're like, you know, I kind of think I need a TV.

01:11:00.000 And then an ad appears like, get a new TV.

01:11:02.000 You're like, yo, it's spying on me.

01:11:04.000 It's not.

01:11:05.000 Predictive algorithms know more about you than you know about yourself.

01:11:09.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

01:11:10.000 They're spying on you for sure.

01:11:11.000 And if you have voice activation on your phone, your phone is recording everything you say, always.

01:11:19.000 Because in order to activate, it has to be listening to you, right?

01:11:23.000 And if you want your phone to activate whenever you say your passphrase, then it has to be listening all the time, waiting for that passphrase.

01:11:30.000 How does voice activation work?

01:11:32.000 Voice tech works by taking your voice, sending it off to a private company, translating that audio file into a text file, sending it back to your device, and then inputting that as a command.

01:11:43.000 Which means, everything you say.

01:11:45.000 Several famous stories where there was a murder, and an Amazon device recorded the entire murder, and they were like, we have the recording, and people were like, how?

01:11:55.000 In order to activate the Amazon device, it must be always recording.

01:12:00.000 Otherwise, how does it know when you say those words?

01:12:03.000 It's like arguing that you plug your ears and put on headphones so you can't hear anything, but as soon as someone says your name, you'll take them off.

01:12:13.000 Well, how are you going to hear them say your name if you're wearing earmuffs?

01:12:16.000 That's the same thing with these Amazon and Google devices.

01:12:19.000 They are listening 24-7.

01:12:22.000 Welcome to your brave new world.

01:12:23.000 Yeah, so be careful in those houses when you're in there at night stalking them, trying to, you know, injure them.

01:12:29.000 You can be careful with that Amazon.

01:12:30.000 Be careful.

01:12:31.000 Turn it off.

01:12:31.000 Yeah.

01:12:32.000 I just think, I think this Alex Jones story, I think next year is gonna get crazy.

01:12:37.000 Yeah, definitely will.

01:12:38.000 I think we're going to have to vote Trump out of prison.

01:12:41.000 What do you think?

01:12:42.000 Do you think we're going to get to that point?

01:12:43.000 I think we're going to have to vote him out so he can pardon himself.

01:12:45.000 I'm ready to do it, though.

01:12:46.000 I think Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chaseborough stabbing him in the back is going to result in widespread 14th Amendment lawsuits in every state.

01:12:56.000 She took a plea deal, didn't she? 0.83

01:12:58.000 She did, yeah, and so did Chaseborough.

01:13:00.000 And agreed to testify against him.

01:13:01.000 And by pleading guilty, What people keep saying, it's like, it's so funny, they're like, yeah, but she took misdemeanor charges for action interfering, like interfering in an election or something, and Trump's name wasn't mentioned, and it's like, okay, okay, yeah, headline, guilty.

01:13:17.000 So now what's going to happen is, Trump's lawyer pleaded guilty and has actually been sentenced. Every Democrat, you know,

01:13:17.000 Yes.

01:13:26.000 Mark Elias, they're going to file 50000 lawsuits all saying in this court case, in this court

01:13:31.000 case, in this court case, the defendant admitted they interfered. They admitted and they were

01:13:37.000 working for Donald Trump directly.

01:13:39.000 And there's a reason they keep charging the little guy first.

01:13:42.000 There's a reason they charged all the January 6th people in Tanya Chutkan's court before they dragged Trump into her court. 0.99

01:13:49.000 And the other thing, too, is you see at Mar-a-Lago in the documents case, they got the IT guy to flip on Trump as well.

01:13:58.000 They got him a plea deal.

01:14:00.000 And so he's going to testify as well that he was, I think they're alleging that he had been pressured to erase surveillance footage.

01:14:11.000 Well, see, I think that they do a lot of this, too, to get the headlines.

01:14:15.000 So the headlines, Trump's lawyer pleads guilty to this election fraud, like election manipulation or all these different things to demoralize his base.

01:14:25.000 Because I know that base from 2020 truly believes In the Stop the Steal movement, you know, everything they marched for, everything they truly believed in, and it's a way to demoralize them as we go into 2024, like thinking, am I crazy?

01:14:39.000 Like, was I wrong for supporting that movement?

01:14:42.000 And they do that with those headlines.

01:14:43.000 So it's not just chipping away at Trump.

01:14:46.000 It's chipping away at his base to demoralize his base.

01:14:49.000 And that's something important to know.

01:14:51.000 Like when they gave Sidney Powell a plea deal, then they knew that would hurt.

01:14:54.000 That would kind of hurt because she had a lot of big supporters during the Stop the Steal movement.

01:14:59.000 And she just, you know, that was that was a hit.

01:15:02.000 And they're just chipping away at him, hoping that Trump will give up.

01:15:05.000 You know, that's the whole thing.

01:15:06.000 If we indict him enough, Maybe we'll get him to give up.

01:15:09.000 But every time they do that, his polling numbers go up, and it's just getting better and better.

01:15:15.000 So you're right, Tim.

01:15:16.000 It's going to be a crazy year.

01:15:17.000 However, it's going to be brutal too, because they won't stop.

01:15:20.000 They're going to file insane lawsuits.

01:15:22.000 Yes.

01:15:22.000 And they're going to make the 14th Amendment argument that he can't be president.

01:15:26.000 Check out this story we have in the Daily Mail.

01:15:28.000 Judge fines Trump $5,000 for calling his clerk Schumer's girlfriend in now-deleted Truth Social post.

01:15:35.000 So you mean to tell me?

01:15:37.000 That after he was told to shut up, he retroactively then came back and said, okay, now you gotta pay me money?

01:15:43.000 Yeah, so they made Trump be quiet.

01:15:46.000 Trump deleted the post, and now they're fining him?

01:15:50.000 It says the judge said it was a blatant violation of a gag order preventing Trump from publicly attacking his staff.

01:15:54.000 Did he call Schumer's girlfriend again?

01:15:56.000 I don't think so.

01:15:58.000 I don't think he did it again.

01:15:59.000 I think it was just the one time.

01:16:00.000 Was that before?

01:16:02.000 He deleted it, but it also appeared on his campaign website.

01:16:04.000 Hm.

01:16:05.000 Right, this was the old post.

01:16:07.000 I thought that was the pretext for the gag.

01:16:10.000 It was.

01:16:11.000 Yes, he didn't want him, uh, Ngoron, is that how you say his name?

01:16:16.000 Ngoron?

01:16:17.000 I guess?

01:16:18.000 Did not want Trump saying mean things about his staff.

01:16:21.000 Okay, so that was the mean thing that caused him to want a gag order?

01:16:26.000 Yes.

01:16:27.000 And then after the gag order, he went back and is now fining Trump for this post that he had erased?

01:16:32.000 Yeah, because it looks like it was also on his campaign website.

01:16:35.000 Hey, this is just the beginning.

01:16:38.000 I think the judges are going to do a whole bunch of crazy stuff, right?

01:16:41.000 They can lock Trump up right now on contempt.

01:16:44.000 Mm-hmm.

01:16:45.000 You don't need a reason for that.

01:16:47.000 He can come in and he can wait for Trump to say anything.

01:16:50.000 Hey, watch your tone with me.

01:16:52.000 If you do that again, I'm gonna hold you in contempt.

01:16:55.000 And then Trump says, okay, fine.

01:16:57.000 I warned you, lock him up, bailiff.

01:16:59.000 They could play whatever shady games they want. 0.99

01:17:01.000 Now, granted, he's got cameras in the courtroom, so he's trying to be a movie star here, because he's a psychopath. 0.88

01:17:06.000 But we'll see how that plays out. 0.75

01:17:08.000 I just think people... Many people on the right, libertarians, post-liberals, etc., keep thinking they're playing a game of chess.

01:17:18.000 You know, where it's like, okay, well, you know, I know the rules, you know the rules, you do the best move, I'll do the best move.

01:17:23.000 Meanwhile, they're sitting back and they've got like five queens and they're like, what's that over there?

01:17:27.000 And they put a queen on the board and it's like, well, how do you have two queens?

01:17:29.000 It's like, what do you mean?

01:17:31.000 It's just normal.

01:17:32.000 It's like they changed the rules last year.

01:17:32.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 You can now have five queens.

01:17:35.000 What do you mean?

01:17:35.000 Yeah.

01:17:36.000 Last year we agreed.

01:17:37.000 I mean, why don't you have five queens? 0.99

01:17:37.000 We all agreed. 0.99

01:17:39.000 Oh, that's too bad.

01:17:40.000 I win.

01:17:41.000 It's like playing Monopoly, where the person who's the banker keeps pulling extra money out, and you're like, you're cheating, and I'm like, no I'm not.

01:17:47.000 Yeah.

01:17:47.000 Guys, we voted last year.

01:17:48.000 We ruled on this last turn, it's okay.

01:17:49.000 It's the new rules, guys.

01:17:52.000 And he also has the gag order in the DC case.

01:17:55.000 It was put on hold today for a little bit.

01:17:57.000 Oh, I see.

01:17:58.000 What?

01:17:58.000 Yeah.

01:17:59.000 It was, what?

01:18:00.000 You can put a gag order on hold for a little bit.

01:18:02.000 Yeah.

01:18:03.000 So Judge Tanya Chutkin, who actually oversaw the cases of a number of January 6th defendants and sentenced them to longer than the Department of Justice was even asking for, said that the gag order in that case, that's the J6 case, would remain on hold while she considers Trump's suggestion that he should be allowed to speak freely about the case.

01:18:29.000 Yeah.

01:18:30.000 So she had issued the gag order on Monday, which prevented him from speaking publicly by targeting prosecutors or anyone on staff or witnesses.

01:18:41.000 And it's a very serious restriction.

01:18:43.000 It's the most serious restriction that they've had so far in any of the cases.

01:18:48.000 Trump's attorneys appealed it.

01:18:51.000 And so now they're now they're just like hanging on for a minute.

01:18:56.000 Trump's lawyers called it egregious and intolerable, saying, by restricting President Trump's free speech, the gag order eviscerates the rights of his audiences, including hundreds of millions of American citizens, who the court now forbids from listening to President Trump's thoughts on important issues.

01:19:12.000 That's crazy.

01:19:13.000 That's actually a great point.

01:19:15.000 So let me get started.

01:19:16.000 And that is what he says, right?

01:19:17.000 Like, they're not coming after me, they're coming after you.

01:19:20.000 I'm just in the way.

01:19:21.000 And Trump's base loves those insults, too.

01:19:24.000 They're a lot of fun!

01:19:25.000 They're funny, they're the best part.

01:19:27.000 I thought Trump's tweets were the best part of Trump and them trying to stop that, you know, it's unacceptable.

01:19:33.000 And I love how like, I mean, Biden keeps making everything worse and worse.

01:19:37.000 And on Twitter, people keep going, Hey, all wouldn't it be nice to just have some mean tweets?

01:19:42.000 Hey, mean tweets.

01:19:44.000 And that's true.

01:19:45.000 It's true.

01:19:46.000 Yeah.

01:19:47.000 I mean, their argument was but but the mean tweets.

01:19:51.000 And so you're like, no, no worse, but the mean tweets.

01:19:54.000 We're withdrawing from the act of war.

01:19:56.000 But the mean tweets!

01:19:57.000 And then it's just like, a lot of people were like, but we like the mean tweets.

01:20:00.000 Exactly.

01:20:00.000 They're great.

01:20:01.000 And it's just because he was just an ordinary person saying things that we all were thinking.

01:20:06.000 And I thought, like, I think my favorite one was like, the Rosie O'Donnell one.

01:20:11.000 And like, she got really mad.

01:20:14.000 No, was it Megyn Kelly asked him about it?

01:20:16.000 Like, because I think he called her like, really insulting.

01:20:19.000 And she was like, oh, you called women this?

01:20:21.000 And he said, no, just Rosie.

01:20:23.000 And it was really funny.

01:20:24.000 It was it was one of the epic moments of Trump.

01:20:27.000 I think that's one of our favorite parts.

01:20:29.000 There's a whole Shane Gillis bit about how he just went out there and started, you know, attacking everyone.

01:20:33.000 It was like, whoa, you can do this?

01:20:34.000 Like, this is like, it could be your thing?

01:20:36.000 It's like, yeah, it can be.

01:20:38.000 Yeah, and I'll give it to Ted Cruz.

01:20:39.000 He was a good sport. 0.84

01:20:40.000 I'm pretty sure, like, Trump told him, like, his, like, wife was ugly or something, and, like, then he turned around- Lying Ted. 0.96

01:20:46.000 Lying Ted. 0.96

01:20:47.000 Oh, yeah, he insulted him so bad, but you know what- They're gonna lie in, like, roar.

01:20:52.000 He called him lying, Ted, and then after, like, Ted got behind Trump, all the Trump supporters started saying, lie in.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, he was a good sport.

01:21:03.000 He didn't hold a grudge, he just stopped in line and endorsed him.

01:21:07.000 I actually, Ted Cruz, I respect him for that.

01:21:07.000 It was good.

01:21:09.000 I don't know what the DeSantis campaign thinks they're doing.

01:21:13.000 I mean, yeah, but the crazy like, I keep hearing people, we have a lot of people come on the show.

01:21:18.000 And we've had some people who are not hyper partisan.

01:21:22.000 They're conservatives, but they're kind of just like, come on, guys, we got to win this.

01:21:25.000 And they're going, why are the DeSantis people attacking me?

01:21:27.000 And I'm like, what'd you say?

01:21:29.000 Like, I haven't said anything about him.

01:21:30.000 And I'm like, dude, the DeSantis people are trying to lose.

01:21:34.000 That's the only thing I can say.

01:21:35.000 What's amazing is they keep giving ammunition to Joe Biden.

01:21:35.000 Yeah.

01:21:39.000 Yeah.

01:21:40.000 Maybe that's the point.

01:21:41.000 I don't know.

01:21:42.000 Yikes.

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:44.000 See, I liked DeSantis as a governor.

01:21:46.000 I thought he was a great governor.

01:21:47.000 He did a great job during, you know, COVID and everything, but it was just the standard.

01:21:52.000 It wasn't like he was doing, like, superior things that, like, set apart.

01:21:55.000 Like, that is what the standard should have been.

01:21:57.000 Governors should have kept their states open.

01:21:58.000 They should have not put masks on kids.

01:22:00.000 They shouldn't have closed the schools down, closed the churches.

01:22:04.000 Just because DeSantis didn't do that doesn't make him special.

01:22:07.000 It means he was upholding the standard.

01:22:09.000 And, you know, I respect him doing that, especially because a lot of Republicans sold out during that time.

01:22:15.000 However, you know, it's a character flaw.

01:22:18.000 Donald Trump drug him across the finish line in his election to put him where he was, and this is how you treat them.

01:22:23.000 You know, it was, I think that it was a character flaw on his behalf.

01:22:28.000 I think that he should remain governor.

01:22:31.000 The people of Florida need him, and I don't think that he needs to have higher aspirations, at least not yet.

01:22:38.000 So that's my opinion.

01:22:39.000 I thought he could have been a shoe-in for the next go-round, you know?

01:22:43.000 Yep.

01:22:43.000 He should have been, he should have been VP and then presidential candidate next time around.

01:22:48.000 That was the path.

01:22:49.000 If he had ran on, hey, this is my record, this is what I've done, this is what, um, you know, my conservative record, which is strong.

01:22:55.000 Hey, I'm just here because Donald Trump might get arrested.

01:22:58.000 That's, that's, that's, that's, that's campaign ending.

01:23:04.000 I missed this part of the news cycle.

01:23:06.000 What happened with that?

01:23:07.000 Oh, he's wearing lifts.

01:23:08.000 It's like that Seinfeld episode, remember, where they said to the guy who was like the body double for one of the kids on a TV show, Mickey.

01:23:18.000 It was Mickey.

01:23:18.000 And they're like, Mickey's wearing lifts!

01:23:20.000 He's heightening!

01:23:21.000 He's wearing lifts in his shoes?

01:23:22.000 He's heightening!

01:23:23.000 Yeah.

01:23:24.000 And on Seinfeld, he was heightening because he was growing.

01:23:27.000 What is this?

01:23:28.000 This definitely looks like he's wearing lifts right here.

01:23:30.000 Are they just weird cowboys?

01:23:32.000 No, because it makes his lower leg look really... yeah, right?

01:23:36.000 Like Chris Angeling it.

01:23:37.000 Weird.

01:23:38.000 Very weird.

01:23:39.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:23:40.000 There it is.

01:23:42.000 Oh, man.

01:23:44.000 Yeah, that's damning for me.

01:23:46.000 Like, okay, so look.

01:23:48.000 So there's no foot here in the front of the boot, and it's just like, dude.

01:23:52.000 Yeah, have you ever worn cowboy boots?

01:23:54.000 It looks like he's just putting his foot halfway in and his heel is sitting right on the end of the boot right there.

01:23:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:59.000 But hold on.

01:23:59.000 On the left, look how long his fibula is.

01:24:01.000 It's weird, man.

01:24:01.000 On the left, look how long his fibula is.

01:24:05.000 It's weird, man. There's no way, dude.

01:24:07.000 I don't know, you can argue that it's distorted or whatever, but I think when you can tell there's no foot in the upper

01:24:12.000 boot and the pressure on the front of the boot looks like the

01:24:15.000 top of his foot, it does.

01:24:17.000 This looks like an accurate drawing of what he's doing.

01:24:20.000 Yeah, that's what it looks like.

01:24:22.000 Look how long his leg would be if it was like... Yeah, that's crazy.

01:24:26.000 His leg would be massive.

01:24:27.000 Dude, this guy just... I don't know.

01:24:31.000 I feel bad for him.

01:24:31.000 I feel bad for him because I thought he did a good job.

01:24:34.000 This looks like he's on his tippy-toes.

01:24:36.000 Imagine halfway putting on your boot and going on national TV.

01:24:38.000 Come on, bro.

01:24:39.000 Yeah, that'd be... You can get away with doing like a two-inch heel lift inside your shoe, but whatever he's going for is just... It's like standing on his tippy-toes, man.

01:24:51.000 Also, like, why do you need it?

01:24:53.000 Well, height matters, no question.

01:24:57.000 Yeah.

01:24:57.000 That much?

01:24:58.000 It matters that much?

01:24:59.000 Yes, it does.

01:24:59.000 Yep, absolutely.

01:25:00.000 That's why... Didn't someone want a box to stand on when they're going to debate Trump or something like that?

01:25:06.000 It's all a numbers game.

01:25:06.000 And so the individual doesn't matter.

01:25:08.000 You can come out and say, I know you're all reasonable, right?

01:25:09.000 I wanted a box. He is short as he's very not against Trump though, but in the debate he wanted a box of sand on

01:25:14.000 because he's a little thing.

01:25:15.000 Yeah, if you're open about it, not trying to hide it. It's when you try to hide it. It's all a numbers game. And so

01:25:21.000 the individual doesn't matter. You can come out and say, I know you're all reasonable, right? But yeah, but it doesn't

01:25:27.000 matter because if 1% of people factor in height, you lose.

01:25:34.000 So that's why everybody everybody knows like the game played by politicians. And if you if you're a politician,

01:25:38.000 you're going to lose.

01:25:39.000 Have you guys ever seen that movie, The Adjustment Bureau?

01:25:42.000 Maybe.

01:25:43.000 It sounds familiar.

01:25:44.000 It's a fun movie with Matt Damon where basically there's a bunch of, I guess you'd call them angels, who control people's destinies and are guiding people and manipulating.

01:25:54.000 And so Matt Damon is running for Senate and he loses.

01:25:58.000 And then they're like, we need to... Okay, he lost.

01:26:01.000 That's good, because we want him to run again and win later.

01:26:04.000 So they're like, now we're gonna get him back on track.

01:26:06.000 They influence him.

01:26:07.000 He goes out to give his concession speech, and then he just gets tired of it, and he's like...

01:26:12.000 Okay, and he's like, see this tie?

01:26:13.000 We actually spent $5,000 to figure out what tie I should wear.

01:26:17.000 And he's like, you know, we actually have a consultant telling us what the right amount of scuff on a shoe should be.

01:26:22.000 $15,000, like just basically breaking it all down.

01:26:25.000 But that's the game they play.

01:26:26.000 They probably went to panels and showed Ron DeSantis speaking without the lifts and with the lifts and found that there was a massive benefit to wearing lifted shoes, lifted boots.

01:26:37.000 He's allegedly wearing these things.

01:26:39.000 I believe it is fair to say he is, because it looks like he's standing on his tippy toes in this picture, and his leg looks too long in this picture.

01:26:46.000 He looks like he's levitating in that one.

01:26:50.000 Oh, you're right, it does.

01:26:52.000 It is funny.

01:26:54.000 It also doesn't help that you can't even see the back of his foot.

01:26:57.000 I was looking at polls before I hopped on today and I think he went down four points just today.

01:27:03.000 I was wondering what happened.

01:27:04.000 Oh, not again.

01:27:05.000 Nikki Haley is beating him in one of the latest polls and in the prediction markets.

01:27:09.000 How great would it have been to see him and Trump just storm the country?

01:27:12.000 You'd be like, nice.

01:27:14.000 I don't- you know what I wonder?

01:27:15.000 I wonder if they went to DeSantis and told him to run to destroy him.

01:27:19.000 To destroy DeSantis?

01:27:19.000 I'm not kidding.

01:27:20.000 Yes.

01:27:21.000 DeSantis was massively popular, was pushing a lot of anti-woke policies, was- look what happened to Florida under DeSantis.

01:27:29.000 He was the shoe-in for VP and we had talked about this.

01:27:33.000 I'm hanging out in DC at National Harbor.

01:27:37.000 And I hear a guy going like, oh, I can't stand Trump, man, you know?

01:27:40.000 And then I was like, what about DeSantis?

01:27:41.000 Like, I could vote DeSantis.

01:27:42.000 I could vote DeSantis.

01:27:43.000 And I said, what if it was Trump-DeSantis?

01:27:46.000 And he's like, oh, yeah, I'd probably vote that.

01:27:49.000 I heard so much of that.

01:27:50.000 If DeSantis was the VP, what did we all say?

01:27:52.000 Oh, it's no question.

01:27:53.000 Because DeSantis is the everyman, the regular guy with military experience who tones down Trump and gives you that assurance, don't worry Trump, I'm gonna keep him in check.

01:28:03.000 So they go to him and they whisper in his ear, now you should be president, come on, run.

01:28:06.000 Now who's Trump's VP?

01:28:07.000 DeSantis implodes, tanked his own, I mean come on, who told him to wear those boots?

01:28:12.000 Whoever told him to wear those boots destroyed him!

01:28:14.000 That's a really good point, because now he's disliked.

01:28:17.000 He used to be loved, now he's very disliked by the same people that were once his base.

01:28:24.000 Somebody was filling his head, telling him, you gotta run, you're gonna win this, we're gonna make you the superstar, they loved you during COVID, they're gonna love you now.

01:28:32.000 And then he ran, and then it just crumbled from there, like, and people just don't even like him.

01:28:37.000 I think you're right.

01:28:37.000 Imagine a debate.

01:28:38.000 I think Trump should debate Ron, should be on the GOP debate stage.

01:28:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:28:42.000 You know, because he's gonna be like, show me your boots, Ron!

01:28:45.000 Come on, let's get freedom, let's see it!

01:28:47.000 You know, he's wearing high heels! 1.00

01:28:48.000 Silly! 0.99

01:28:49.000 Would he be able to? 1.00

01:28:50.000 That would be amazing.

01:28:52.000 That would be the best clip ever.

01:28:54.000 Show him your boots, Ron.

01:28:55.000 That's good.

01:28:56.000 I love that.

01:28:56.000 And what's Ron gonna do?

01:28:58.000 I wonder, because I've been saying for a while, it feels like, okay, so I'll explain this.

01:29:02.000 I posted something somewhat innocuous about Florida related to Jazz Jennings.

01:29:07.000 All of a sudden, the entire DeSantis communications team is insulting and attacking me.

01:29:11.000 Oh gosh.

01:29:12.000 I have friends.

01:29:13.000 Because Jazz was in Florida.

01:29:14.000 Because Jazz was in Florida and got surgery under DeSantis' administration.

01:29:18.000 I said, where's Ron DeSantis?

01:29:21.000 The appropriate response would be, nothing.

01:29:24.000 Say nothing.

01:29:25.000 If you want to engage, you could be like, here's the bill we're working on. 1.00

01:29:28.000 Instead, they decided to get all of their communications people to call me a moron, an idiot, other insults. 1.00

01:29:34.000 And I was like, what is this? 1.00

01:29:36.000 This is crazy!

01:29:37.000 And I'm like, I've been praising the guy for a year!

01:29:40.000 And then I said one thing, and they lose it.

01:29:43.000 I have friends who worked in his campaign.

01:29:45.000 We know that the DeSantis campaign has an explicit rule.

01:29:48.000 You do not go on TimCast IRL.

01:29:50.000 I've talked to some of these people.

01:29:52.000 They're just like, I'm like, you do realize a bunch of prominent DeSantis fans are asking me why you're insulting them.

01:30:00.000 I'm not, it's up to them to speak out.

01:30:03.000 But the guests on this show, just go back through the list of the people we've had on the show, and you can try and make your guess as to who you think it is, but it's about three people, have said, are you being attacked by Ron DeSantis' campaign?

01:30:16.000 And then I'm like, I laugh about it, I'm like, oh, they insult me all the time.

01:30:19.000 And then they'll ask me, why is this happening?

01:30:23.000 We've had people say, I've been getting attacked by his communications people for no reason.

01:30:28.000 Actually, take a look at what happened with Ashley St. 0.71

01:30:30.000 Clair.

01:30:31.000 Past week, this past week, we did, uh, she made a funny joke about Ron wearing high heels, and Christina Pusha immediately responds, like, okay, Christina Pusha was like, when you have no argument against Ron DeSantis, so you make up this insult or whatever, and it's like, Ashley posted a meme about boots.

01:30:49.000 She didn't make an argument about policy.

01:30:51.000 She wasn't actually striking at his campaign or his career or anything.

01:30:55.000 She was just joking about a meme.

01:30:57.000 And immediately his communications people decide, here's an opportunity to sink him a few more points. 0.79

01:31:03.000 Make us appear stodgy, ignorant, and anyone in PR knows, if someone is highlighting, say, Ron DeSantis wearing high

01:31:12.000 heels, the last thing you want to do is pour gasoline on the fire and announce it to your base. 0.82

01:31:18.000 It's happening.

01:31:20.000 You say, no, no, no, everyone shut up and let it blow over.

01:31:23.000 If you engage with it, you will make it a meme, you will make it public, and you're fueling the fire.

01:31:28.000 And look where we are now.

01:31:29.000 It's only because of that.

01:31:30.000 Especially with Ashley, because Ashley will now find out for sure I mean, she's very diligent.

01:31:35.000 She will find out.

01:31:36.000 She will not know. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, she's very diligent. She will find out.

01:31:41.000 I can't wait. I'm me, too. So I wonder if.

01:31:46.000 When we were all praising DeSantis and he was at the top of the prediction markets

01:31:51.000 beating Trump last year and we were all like, he's the guy.

01:31:55.000 Then Trump started coming back and picking up his speeches were getting better and we're

01:31:58.000 like, I think it might be Trump.

01:32:00.000 And everyone said, I think it's Trump DeSantis. I'm willing to bet that the never Trump or

01:32:04.000 Neocon said a Trump DeSantis ticket is unbeatable.

01:32:08.000 How can we stop this?

01:32:10.000 Let's throw money at DeSantis and convince him he must run and he'll win.

01:32:14.000 So they show all these polls, these prediction markets.

01:32:16.000 They whisper in his ears, you're the guy, man.

01:32:18.000 You're the heir.

01:32:19.000 It's not going to be Trump.

01:32:20.000 It's going to be you.

01:32:21.000 I should run.

01:32:21.000 And he goes, you're right.

01:32:22.000 Destroys his relationship with Trump, the Trump base.

01:32:25.000 And now you have fractured MAGA.

01:32:28.000 People in Florida who moved to Florida for DeSantis fervently love him.

01:32:32.000 So we had this event in Miami.

01:32:34.000 We just about sold out.

01:32:36.000 We got to maybe like, I think, I think we were short like 100 seats available out of 850 or something.

01:32:43.000 And one of the responses we got was, for a Miami event, a lot of the people here who would agree with these politics are huge DeSantis fans, and so they're like, we don't want to come and watch this because you guys rag on DeSantis or whatever.

01:32:55.000 They're fervent.

01:32:56.000 Look, if you're willing to move from your state to Florida because of Ron DeSantis, you don't want to be told you backed the wrong horse.

01:33:02.000 So a lot of people are just like, no!

01:33:02.000 Right.

01:33:05.000 But imagine what it would have been.

01:33:07.000 Trump-DeSantis was unbeatable.

01:33:09.000 And now what do we have?

01:33:11.000 DeSantis wearing high heels? 0.86

01:33:13.000 This is worse than the Yee-Haw.

01:33:15.000 Who was that guy?

01:33:15.000 Remember?

01:33:18.000 I don't see a single... Oh, you mean Howard Dean?

01:33:26.000 I had a friend working on that campaign at the time and I remember after that it was like a yawp or something like that.

01:33:36.000 And I called my friend and I was like, what the hell?

01:33:39.000 And he was like, no, it's we're done.

01:33:42.000 Wasn't he leading?

01:33:43.000 Yeah, he was doing great.

01:33:45.000 And then Dave Chappelle did a thing.

01:33:47.000 It's crazy, I heard about this and I didn't even know the guy's name and I just googled like, guy destroys his career with a bad sound and he popped up and it was really bad.

01:33:57.000 It was like when Michael Dukakis got in the tank and nobody remembers that but me, but yeah, that was extreme as well.

01:34:04.000 Yo, this picture's crazy.

01:34:05.000 Come on.

01:34:07.000 That's the best one for me.

01:34:07.000 I know.

01:34:08.000 You can see the shadow below his foot.

01:34:11.000 Like, you can see the heel on the ground, but he looks like he's on his tippy-toes.

01:34:16.000 That's crazy.

01:34:17.000 Dude, come on, bro.

01:34:18.000 Something doesn't make sense.

01:34:19.000 I mean, it's kind of like they photoshopped him really well into this picture, almost.

01:34:23.000 It looks fake, but it's a tweet.

01:34:27.000 I don't know.

01:34:30.000 Wow, that's a good one.

01:34:31.000 Someone had to have made a fake image.

01:34:33.000 Like, that's the thing, like, could this have been photoshopped?

01:34:35.000 I mean, I saw the video.

01:34:36.000 I watched a video of it.

01:34:38.000 We just really need to find the boot maker.

01:34:39.000 I mean, this is custom.

01:34:42.000 It really does look... When you look at the boot, it looks like this is hard plastic, and this is leather, and you can see the shape of his foot pressing up against it.

01:34:51.000 And look at his left foot.

01:34:53.000 Dude, it is... Yeah, those are like special made Frankenstein boots.

01:34:58.000 Does he have one leg shorter than the other?

01:35:00.000 Well both his legs are absurdly long if these really are his feet I Don't know man.

01:35:05.000 I'm gonna see if they make boots for this occasion.

01:35:08.000 I just know I'm not voting for him because he's got weird shaped legs and looks like

01:35:12.000 a... 0.69

01:35:13.000 He's a good dude with a campaign doing everything to destroy him.

01:35:16.000 That's crazy to me.

01:35:17.000 Well, you know, I don't see a single DeSantis flag in Florida.

01:35:21.000 This is like DeSantis' home state.

01:35:23.000 In those trailer parks, it's nothing but Trump.

01:35:25.000 Trump's got the working class down, locked.

01:35:27.000 And DeSantis, I mean, you're right.

01:35:30.000 I think some never-Trumpers like the Bush Republicans probably got in his ear, threw a bunch of money behind him, said, you're going to win and just go.

01:35:37.000 And then really, in reality... Divide and conquer.

01:35:39.000 Yep.

01:35:40.000 I mean, divide and conquer makes the most sense.

01:35:43.000 They know if Trump and DeSantis team up, unbeatable, we need to make sure they can't.

01:35:47.000 That's it.

01:35:48.000 Oh my goodness.

01:35:50.000 I think I found them.

01:35:51.000 I'm looking for them too.

01:35:52.000 I'm like, boots to make me taller.

01:35:54.000 What do you search for?

01:35:55.000 Well, I looked at... I'm at donsfootwear.com.

01:36:00.000 Elevator height increase boots.

01:36:03.000 And I see a pair of cowboy type boots.

01:36:05.000 Maybe they're not maybe exactly the same, but...

01:36:09.000 There's the Augusta 2.

01:36:11.000 And there's the Cantu.

01:36:14.000 There's a lot of boots that look like they would serve the purpose.

01:36:20.000 Yeah, but his have like an inner lift to disguise.

01:36:25.000 Some of these do too.

01:36:26.000 I don't want you to know.

01:36:27.000 Elevator boots for men.

01:36:27.000 How do I find that?

01:36:28.000 Elevator boots?

01:36:29.000 but look at elevator elevator elevator boots for men these elevator boots

01:36:36.000 elevator boots a lot of them yeah No, I'm looking at my keys.

01:36:42.000 I'd love to see that.

01:36:44.000 And there's something inside it?

01:36:45.000 There's something inside.

01:36:46.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:36:47.000 It looks like if you ever put a cowboy boot on, you put your foot halfway in, you put your heel against the back of the boot, you have that whole bunch of space.

01:36:54.000 It looks like he's just standing in regular boots and he has like some socks underneath his feet or something like that.

01:36:58.000 When I search for elevator cowboy boot hidden lift, a picture of Rhonda Santas pops up. 1.00

01:37:04.000 I'm at donsfootwear.com.

01:37:05.000 That's where I am.

01:37:06.000 Donsfootwear.com, yeah.

01:37:11.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:37:13.000 No, anyway, I'm sure they exist in fact.

01:37:16.000 Yeah, I'm sure it's likely.

01:37:17.000 So you said when you were in Miami people were saying they were like hardcore DeSantis fans?

01:37:23.000 So we almost sold out the whole venue.

01:37:27.000 We didn't quite sell at the 850, but in Austin, we sold out in a day.

01:37:32.000 And so two things people said was, Miami's too hard to get to because it's all the way down there.

01:37:38.000 And it's like, oh, okay, fair point.

01:37:40.000 So even if you're in South Carolina, you're like, that's brutal.

01:37:44.000 So we're looking at Pittsburgh and Nashville next, which is a more centralized location for people who live in the area, they can come down.

01:37:51.000 different directions. But one component was we thought Miami would do really

01:37:51.000 What is it?

01:37:55.000 well because it is it has transformed so much deeper ed but we did hear that

01:37:59.000 there was like a lot of people are just very heavy on DeSantis and don't want to

01:38:03.000 admit they backed the wrong horse or whatever so they're just like you know

01:38:07.000 oh Tim's insulting DeSantis. What is it Don's Don's footwear?

01:38:14.000 Yeah Don's footwear.com

01:38:17.000 The bespoke shoemaker.

01:38:18.000 Is that what it is?

01:38:19.000 And then we search for elevator shoes.

01:38:21.000 Elevator height increased boots.

01:38:23.000 Yeah.

01:38:24.000 Oh wait, elevators and then one of the- You can get five inches.

01:38:26.000 Wait, wait, elevator.

01:38:26.000 Yeah.

01:38:27.000 Oh, look at that.

01:38:28.000 Yeah.

01:38:29.000 That six inch, five inch.

01:38:31.000 Plus they also do bespoke boarders.

01:38:32.000 As tall as we can.

01:38:33.000 They also do bespoke boarders.

01:38:34.000 All elevator shoes.

01:38:35.000 Three feet extra height, dude.

01:38:37.000 They look like stilts.

01:38:37.000 Wild.

01:38:40.000 Do you see how they- Oh, look!

01:38:41.000 And they also do the smoke!

01:38:43.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:38:44.000 And if you scroll down, there's, like, cowboy boots.

01:38:46.000 There's more stuff.

01:38:49.000 Oh, whoa, that's crazy!

01:38:51.000 But none of these are, like, obviously trying to hide- Wouldn't it be so funny if I just bought some of these, and, like, you know, just for no reason?

01:38:58.000 There are!

01:38:59.000 Look at the vetero.

01:38:59.000 Decided to run for president, or- I'll be 6'2'' tomorrow, but I've always been 6'2", what do you mean?

01:39:04.000 I mean, I have some boots that are like this, but not like... You know what they sort of mean?

01:39:08.000 The bottom height is associated with advantages in the professional and personal lives of men.

01:39:13.000 Most CEOs are above average height.

01:39:14.000 That's like, this is like, I can probably see... Women are dreaded to taller men. 1.00

01:39:17.000 I can see you on this reading that.

01:39:18.000 There's all those women's shoes that are like wedges on the inside only, like those weird high heel sneakers that are like high heel on the inside.

01:39:26.000 That's what I think it is.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, those always freak me out because it's like, you're stuck with the uncomfortableness of high heels and you don't even get the visible credit of wearing them.

01:39:33.000 Select height increase.

01:39:35.000 Look at that.

01:39:35.000 Select increase height.

01:39:36.000 Whoa.

01:39:37.000 Nice.

01:39:38.000 Four inches.

01:39:40.000 Yeah.

01:39:41.000 And then you just get the boots.

01:39:43.000 Dude, I think we should order a pair of these for everyone in the company.

01:39:46.000 We'll do a cast castle bit where everyone's really tall, but everyone's like walking like they're on stilts.

01:39:54.000 That's great.

01:39:56.000 This company would make like 20 grand overnight.

01:39:58.000 Look at this.

01:39:59.000 Look at this.

01:39:59.000 There's so many.

01:40:01.000 You can see how they do it.

01:40:03.000 They've got, like, you can see the shape on the outside.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, on the inside there's that little wedge.

01:40:08.000 Yo, that's crazy.

01:40:10.000 Wow, dude.

01:40:10.000 There are these ads on Instagram where they sell these inserts.

01:40:14.000 You can buy them for like 20 bucks, and you stick them into your shoe, and then it gives you a two-inch lift on your heel, and your shoes are on the ground.

01:40:20.000 You're on high heels, but you're heightening it.

01:40:22.000 You're heightening.

01:40:23.000 And then there's like, the commercials are funny, because there's a guy, same height as the girl, and then they're like, yo, the guy's got a microphone, he's like, what do you think about this guy?

01:40:31.000 And she's like, he's all right, I guess.

01:40:32.000 And he's like, here, check this out.

01:40:34.000 And then he puts the inserts in the guy's shoes, and he's like, now he's tall.

01:40:37.000 And she's like, oh yeah, I like it.

01:40:38.000 And he's like, you don't care that he's wearing, that you know he's not really tall?

01:40:41.000 And she's like, no, I don't care, it's great, I like it.

01:40:43.000 And I'm like, What happens when they get to the bedroom?

01:40:45.000 These guys are gonna buy it.

01:40:46.000 They don't care, I guess.

01:40:47.000 Well, I mean, you don't really need to be tall in the bedroom, necessarily.

01:40:52.000 Increase height 3.1 inches.

01:40:54.000 That's crazy, dude.

01:40:57.000 That actually happened.

01:40:58.000 That was another Seinfeld episode, actually.

01:41:00.000 Oh, really?

01:41:00.000 He was wearing hiking boots.

01:41:02.000 He was wearing, like, what do you call them?

01:41:03.000 The Timberlands.

01:41:05.000 He was wearing Timberlands.

01:41:06.000 George was wearing Timberlands.

01:41:07.000 Oh, it made him taller?

01:41:08.000 And he would never take them off.

01:41:09.000 And he was, like, wearing Timberlands in bed.

01:41:11.000 He was wearing Timberlands to a wedding.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 All right, we gotta go to Super Chats.

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01:41:31.000 All right, Dom Dan Cam says, one.

01:41:33.000 Congratulations, sir, for two dollars.

01:41:35.000 You are the first!

01:41:36.000 Super chat.

01:41:37.000 Clint Torres says, howdy, people.

01:41:38.000 Never forget, if you're first, it's because I allowed it. 0.97

01:41:40.000 Keep up the good work, Tim and crew.

01:41:42.000 Love what you're doing.

01:41:43.000 And Clint came in second.

01:41:44.000 Good second place.

01:41:44.000 I love this one.

01:41:45.000 Quispy Joe says, I am become first.

01:41:47.000 Smash the like button.

01:41:49.000 No, you were third.

01:41:50.000 Then we have David Magdaleno says, Take that, Clint!

01:41:54.000 What, you were fourth?

01:41:58.000 One evil chef says, Chuck Norris for speaker.

01:42:01.000 I just watched all the Expendables movies.

01:42:02.000 They're so awesome.

01:42:03.000 I love them.

01:42:03.000 Expendables 4 is not as good because Sylvester Stallone's too old.

01:42:07.000 He really needed him.

01:42:08.000 The first three are just so hokey and hilarious.

01:42:11.000 When Arnold is like, you'll be terminated, you know, when I'm back.

01:42:15.000 And then Chuck Norris walks out in like, I think, part two.

01:42:19.000 And then they make a joke.

01:42:20.000 Like, I heard you got bit by a rattlesnake or cobra.

01:42:22.000 And he's like, after five painful, agonizing day, the cobra died.

01:42:26.000 And then they all laugh.

01:42:27.000 Yeah, I thought it was great.

01:42:28.000 They tried doing part four, but Sebastian Sloan's like 77, so it's... Yeah.

01:42:32.000 You know, he's still... he's... he's looking old, man.

01:42:34.000 He's become a meme, a little bit.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:42:37.000 Yeah.

01:42:39.000 Dimma Doomguy says, when am I getting the Timcast branded snowboard?

01:42:42.000 We're not making snowboards.

01:42:43.000 What?

01:42:43.000 Skateboards we can do.

01:42:45.000 Yeah, that's a lot of money.

01:42:46.000 Peter Balk says, if what Epstein says about Google and Android is true, Dr. Epstein, do you think they had foreknowledge of the Hamas attack and did not say anything?

01:42:55.000 If so, was it benign neglect or intentional to push the agenda?

01:42:59.000 I do not think that the probability is on the side of Israel having foreknowledge.

01:43:04.000 I believe that they were warned about something and what Hamas has stated is that they only whispered among two or three people about what they were really going to be doing.

01:43:14.000 Going to Israel and being like, there may be an attack, doesn't help.

01:43:17.000 And you want to play that game?

01:43:19.000 Have someone be like, on this date, someone will break into your house.

01:43:23.000 Good luck.

01:43:24.000 Your, your, it's, it's, defense is very, very difficult.

01:43:27.000 But, um, the idea, yeah, I think, I think Israel was, was, uh, did not, did not know.

01:43:33.000 Uh, and I don't think they were using, um, uh, the argument that could be made for this is that the tech they did use should have been predictive of something.

01:43:43.000 But if they're not using these things and they've isolated themselves from it, then the machine can't track what they're doing.

01:43:48.000 So I think that was kind of the point they made, how they kept it a secret.

01:43:52.000 And we talk about that war game, that famous story, you guys probably know the name of it, I don't, where it was like an older guy and younger guys and the older guy won and it was because they wrote down their instructions on a note, put it in a guy's pocket and wrote it on a motorcycle, whereas the other guys were trying to spy over like communications and radio waves and that's not what they were doing.

01:44:09.000 It's crazy.

01:44:09.000 That's interesting.

01:44:11.000 David Magdaleno says Clint is indeed a worthy adversary.

01:44:13.000 Till next time!

01:44:15.000 Theory here, big government maintains a spending amount to collapse the dollar by 2030.

01:44:18.000 I will not eat the bugs.

01:44:21.000 Neither will I. I honestly have no problem with eating bugs.

01:44:26.000 It's just taking away people's options and choices and forcing them to do it.

01:44:29.000 Right.

01:44:30.000 I actually think, like, y'all should be prepared to eat bugs not because of, you know, fake meat or living in the pod.

01:44:38.000 It's because if you truly want to survive in a conflict or in chaos, you will do what you must.

01:44:44.000 Yeah.

01:44:45.000 It'd be like someone like I do not eat the bugs to me means you will not take away my choice for some arbitrary reason of control.

01:44:52.000 I won't be forced to.

01:44:54.000 Right.

01:44:54.000 But I mean, look, no.

01:44:57.000 If the system collapses because they did it, it's not what I'm saying.

01:45:00.000 I'm like, in that case, eat the bug, survive.

01:45:01.000 You must survive.

01:45:02.000 You must.

01:45:03.000 I mean, forced by somebody else.

01:45:04.000 What I'm saying is, they're not going to stand in front of a cow and say cows are illegal now.

01:45:09.000 You have to eat a bug.

01:45:10.000 I'd be like, get out of here.

01:45:11.000 I'm having beef.

01:45:11.000 I'm having cow.

01:45:12.000 You know, I just ordered a whole bunch of biltong.

01:45:14.000 That stuff's so good. 0.78

01:45:15.000 That South African jerky. 1.00

01:45:17.000 Oh yeah, good.

01:45:19.000 But that's my point.

01:45:20.000 It would be like, imagine if, under the idea of like, I want to eat the bugs, I'm not saying, like, the argument is, in the context of doing what you must to survive, eat the bugs.

01:45:30.000 I recommend it.

01:45:31.000 Don't die.

01:45:31.000 We need you to live.

01:45:32.000 We need our ideas to survive.

01:45:34.000 Imagine if someone was like, I will not warm myself at the campfire.

01:45:37.000 I demand, you know, oil heat in central, you know, central condition.

01:45:41.000 I won't live in this bulletproof pod.

01:45:43.000 It's more the demoralizing thing.

01:45:43.000 Right.

01:45:45.000 They want to humiliate you by eating the cricket biscuits and then taking away the real meat.

01:45:50.000 Cricket biscuits.

01:45:50.000 They don't taste good.

01:45:52.000 You've had one?

01:45:53.000 We had a, we bought cricket flour and we made 50-50 cricket bread.

01:45:57.000 And the problem with cricket is that it's astringent.

01:46:01.000 I'd liken the flavor to earwax.

01:46:03.000 Ew.

01:46:05.000 Yeah.

01:46:06.000 You ate it willingly.

01:46:08.000 Yeah.

01:46:09.000 Well, you had to try it.

01:46:10.000 Of course, I'm all about it.

01:46:12.000 I don't advocate for fake meat or bugs forced on people, but I certainly think if you're someone who's like, I'm not eating a bug, good luck when you're in a car accident in the middle of the woods or you get lost and you're like, oh no, what do I eat?

01:46:27.000 It's like, well, you eat bugs.

01:46:29.000 Yeah.

01:46:30.000 Like, pick up a log and find a bug and chow down!

01:46:32.000 Because you need to survive!

01:46:34.000 Like the Ferengi. 1.00

01:46:35.000 Yeah, but like- Yeah, but even at that point, then you don't really have a choice.

01:46:39.000 Like, you can eat it or survive.

01:46:40.000 Your choice is gone.

01:46:41.000 It's compelling.

01:46:41.000 Yeah, compelled bug-eating that I'm not done with.

01:46:43.000 Compelled bug-eating.

01:46:44.000 Right, right.

01:46:44.000 Compelling.

01:46:45.000 If the government says we're making- Not like Klaus Schwab, you eat Z-Bugs, and- Yes. 1.00

01:46:48.000 In Canada, they have- Like, we eat shake and you eat bugs.

01:46:50.000 Yeah.

01:46:51.000 You're still desperate either way.

01:46:52.000 Yeah, the cricket- Like, bug puffs.

01:46:53.000 Cricket puffs.

01:46:54.000 Cricket puffs.

01:46:55.000 In Canada, yeah.

01:46:56.000 Well, in Canada, they have a whole industry that the government is helping boost up and they're making cricket farms and all of this stuff so that you will eat the bugs.

01:47:07.000 And there's like products already on shelves with bug puffs.

01:47:13.000 They're like cheese puffs, but bugs.

01:47:15.000 Jedediah Richardson says, Ian is doing what?

01:47:17.000 Props to him.

01:47:18.000 I'm proud of his transformation.

01:47:19.000 Yeah, he sent me a message.

01:47:20.000 Let me read what he said.

01:47:23.000 Oh, let's see.

01:47:23.000 He says he's doing tactical training with Luke.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, full cardio, extreme airsoft.

01:47:31.000 Ian's gonna come back two weeks.

01:47:32.000 It's gonna be two weeks.

01:47:33.000 He's just gonna be like massive.

01:47:34.000 Yeah.

01:47:36.000 Ripped, wearing a cross necklace, you know, just... Oh, yeah.

01:47:39.000 People don't understand.

01:47:41.000 Exercise is addicting.

01:47:41.000 That's what I don't get.

01:47:43.000 Like, I don't understand the people who are like, I don't want to exercise.

01:47:47.000 That's so weird to me.

01:47:48.000 Oh, I hate exercising and I do it every single day.

01:47:51.000 How do you hate it?

01:47:52.000 I don't get it.

01:47:52.000 Maybe it's because I'm a dude.

01:47:53.000 I'm just bored.

01:47:54.000 I find it boring.

01:47:55.000 Oh, that's why I skate.

01:47:56.000 Because skating is so fun.

01:47:57.000 Yeah, I need like a better exercise.

01:48:00.000 You know what?

01:48:00.000 You gotta play pickleball.

01:48:02.000 That's the new game of the dissident, right?

01:48:03.000 You have to play pickleball.

01:48:05.000 It is.

01:48:05.000 Like, if you are in the right, you have to learn how to play pickleball.

01:48:08.000 It's gonna be mandatory.

01:48:10.000 Robbie just stood up in his living room and started screaming and pointing at the screen.

01:48:13.000 See, I like a lot of sports that I don't play anymore.

01:48:16.000 Like, I loved skiing and swimming and all of these kinds of... Great exercise.

01:48:20.000 Okay.

01:48:20.000 Biking.

01:48:21.000 Now, hold on there a minute.

01:48:22.000 Ginger McIsaac says, how, pray tell, do you know what earwax tastes like?

01:48:27.000 Are you a human being?

01:48:29.000 Okay?

01:48:30.000 When you were a little kid, you never, like, itched your ear, then later, like, somehow was eating something and tasted earwax? 1.00

01:48:35.000 Bro, I'm not playing stupid games, come on. 0.69

01:48:37.000 Humans have nasty stuff all over their body, and, like, earwax and weird stuff can- can get on your hands or whatever when you're a kid. 0.98

01:48:44.000 I once chopped a bunch of chili peppers, and then four hours later itched my eye!

01:48:49.000 Okay?

01:48:50.000 And it's like, it stays.

01:48:51.000 Classic.

01:48:52.000 So, yeah.

01:48:53.000 That's how, uh, uh, or I can just give you the- the millennial answer of, I was at a Harry Potter convention.

01:48:58.000 I was just going to mention the Bertie Botts beans.

01:49:04.000 Alright, let's see.

01:49:05.000 What do we have?

01:49:07.000 Justin Slaw says Israel bombed the third oldest church in the world in Gaza.

01:49:13.000 Well, it's a shame I just don't believe anything that comes out of Gaza. 1.00

01:49:18.000 I was reading about that and it was, um, the IDF was looking into it and they had said that they had bombed something nearby and there was collateral damage.

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:29.000 Justin Amash, I think, announced that one of his relatives had died.

01:49:32.000 He's a congressman who died in the Orthodox Church.

01:49:34.000 Was that the same one, I think?

01:49:35.000 I don't know.

01:49:36.000 Or was it a more recent one?

01:49:37.000 It was an Orthodox Church and it was today.

01:49:39.000 Yeah.

01:49:40.000 And it was, uh, the IDF was checking it out.

01:49:43.000 You know, this is a, this is a, this is a war situation.

01:49:47.000 I don't believe it.

01:49:48.000 I don't know what happened.

01:49:49.000 I just don't believe anything.

01:49:50.000 We didn't cover it because we couldn't get any real information.

01:49:53.000 As soon as the hospital stuff happens, I'm just like, it's all lies.

01:49:56.000 Bye-bye, have a nice day.

01:49:57.000 And they're like, you just blindly believe Israel? 0.53

01:49:59.000 Well, Hamas lied about a hospital being blown up, so yes. 0.68

01:50:02.000 Rashid Tlaib lied about a hospital being blown up, so yes.

01:50:04.000 Committed massive terrorism.

01:50:05.000 Exactly.

01:50:07.000 And now they're playing for sympathy, and I'm not really having it.

01:50:10.000 I'm so over it.

01:50:12.000 So over it.

01:50:13.000 All right.

01:50:13.000 Bender the Offenders has watched the segment with the woman complaining her college degree in marketing was essentially pointless.

01:50:18.000 I never bothered going to college.

01:50:19.000 I went to a blue collar job instead and I have little to no debt. 0.83

01:50:22.000 Bunch of useless degrees from these colleges. 0.98

01:50:24.000 College is a scam. 0.99

01:50:26.000 I feel bad.

01:50:26.000 So bad for these kids.

01:50:28.000 It's a video.

01:50:29.000 Where this woman is like, I have a marketing degree. 1.00

01:50:32.000 I can't get a job anywhere.

01:50:34.000 I make more money.

01:50:35.000 She's like, all these jobs, it's a pay cut. 0.88

01:50:37.000 If I want to work in marketing, I make more money serving sushi rolls.

01:50:41.000 It's like, well, yeah, that's a tangible job with real revenue coming and going.

01:50:45.000 And like, we can track the profits on this.

01:50:47.000 It's just like, she said she was almost, but here's the funny thing.

01:50:52.000 She said she's almost 25 and she wants a job that pays 150 to 200.

01:50:58.000 And I'm just like, man, these kids.

01:51:00.000 150 to 200 at 25?

01:51:00.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 Wow.

01:51:01.000 That'd be wild, honestly.

01:51:05.000 My first job, I will say, I went to school, I studied theater and philosophy, you know, because I'm obviously very intelligent.

01:51:13.000 But my first job out of college was, I was making literally 16.5.

01:51:20.000 A year.

01:51:21.000 Wow.

01:51:21.000 That was a long time ago, right?

01:51:22.000 It was, yes.

01:51:23.000 I mean, it was back in the 1920s, so it was a very long time ago.

01:51:27.000 But yes, see, when it comes to college, it's a real shame that they're pumping out, like, communist and Marxist ideology, because during COVID, we learned that we need doctors on our side.

01:51:38.000 We need lawyers on our side.

01:51:40.000 We need people who are going to go get educated, get degrees, and actually start making change.

01:51:46.000 Because we aren't going to really, even though I love trade schools and I think that everything has a place, we have a place too.

01:51:54.000 Especially in the professional arena.

01:51:56.000 What are you going to college for?

01:51:59.000 Name a job.

01:52:00.000 What do you need a college for?

01:52:03.000 Like being a lawyer.

01:52:04.000 You have to have, well you have to be able to pass a bar.

01:52:06.000 There's one.

01:52:07.000 Well actually you don't have to.

01:52:08.000 You don't actually need to.

01:52:09.000 You can just read the law.

01:52:10.000 Kim Kardashian was doing that.

01:52:11.000 Yeah you can actually pass the bar without going to college.

01:52:12.000 They probably won't let you into the bar.

01:52:14.000 Like you can pass the bar but they won't let you into like the actual bar.

01:52:17.000 Yeah you can.

01:52:18.000 If you didn't pass college.

01:52:19.000 Pretty sure you don't need to go to college to be a lawyer.

01:52:21.000 You just need to pass the bar.

01:52:22.000 Yes, that's true.

01:52:23.000 Probably be a doctor.

01:52:26.000 Medical school is very specific.

01:52:30.000 Engineering?

01:52:32.000 No.

01:52:32.000 I'm saying you don't have to, but I don't think an aerospace engineering company will hire you without a degree.

01:52:37.000 Not true.

01:52:38.000 Well, I don't know.

01:52:39.000 I'm not claiming anyway.

01:52:40.000 Because I know people who did not have degrees in engineering who worked for aerospace engineering companies.

01:52:46.000 Well, yeah.

01:52:46.000 Out in the Mojave Desert.

01:52:47.000 I know someone who tried, yeah.

01:52:49.000 Mojave Spaceport.

01:52:50.000 That was really cool.

01:52:51.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 That sounds cool.

01:52:51.000 I think I have a video on my Instagram of it, too.

01:52:53.000 So I know people who worked there and did not have degrees and were machining parts and working on these things.

01:52:58.000 All that was necessary was the capability and the understanding that a degree was not required.

01:53:01.000 Do you want to know when I was in college?

01:53:05.000 When I was in graduate school at Columbia University, one of my professors did not have a college degree.

01:53:11.000 Oh, really?

01:53:11.000 Yep.

01:53:12.000 Well, of course.

01:53:12.000 He didn't have a college degree.

01:53:14.000 I was giving guest lectures to PhD courses with no high school diploma.

01:53:20.000 Right.

01:53:20.000 After Occupy Wall Street, with the drone technology that we had developed, look, me and my friends hacked a bunch of drones to live stream from them.

01:53:28.000 Nice.

01:53:28.000 And we were doing mobile broadcasting.

01:53:31.000 Numerous universities had me come in to give guest lectures to PhD journalism students.

01:53:36.000 And I'm like, I didn't go to high school.

01:53:38.000 And I was like, how is it that I have a career, that I'm now developing new technology in the space, in the field, covering historical events, and you guys, who are four years older than me, have done nothing.

01:53:49.000 Nothing!

01:53:49.000 And you have a hundred K in debt.

01:53:51.000 I'm just like, okay, do you?

01:53:54.000 I guess.

01:53:55.000 I would say medical school.

01:53:56.000 That's the main one.

01:53:58.000 I want my surgeon going to a college.

01:54:01.000 I don't even think accountants don't even need to go to college.

01:54:05.000 You just need to actually educate yourself and figure it out.

01:54:09.000 You need a license to be a CPA.

01:54:12.000 But you can get a license.

01:54:13.000 You can learn accounting.

01:54:15.000 You can apprentice accounting.

01:54:17.000 So what we did with the drones, for those that are asking, was we took the AR Parrot, we downloaded the software development kit, the SDK, and we then opened it up and started basically moving through the code to see the paths of what it was doing.

01:54:38.000 And then we had we redirected its stream to a this is all rudimentary.

01:54:42.000 This is like the early days of live streaming.

01:54:43.000 So it was really ridiculous how we were pulling this off.

01:54:46.000 But we use the computer with a I think we had a PlayStation controller or an Xbox controller to input the controls which we basically had to program.

01:54:56.000 Like, we had to look at how the controls were programmed for the phone, because it was touchscreen, left, right, up, down, and then just associate that with the controller.

01:55:04.000 Not difficult at all.

01:55:04.000 All of this took only a few minutes.

01:55:06.000 And then, the difficult thing was just, it's all duct-taped together, so it, like, doesn't work properly until we finally work out the bugs.

01:55:13.000 I did not do the coding.

01:55:14.000 I basically just, um...

01:55:17.000 I did a lot of the basic stuff, and then I had a friend of mine who did the more coding-heavy stuff.

01:55:22.000 But I did all the livestream stuff.

01:55:23.000 So anything related to how we broadcast, which again, not particularly difficult.

01:55:27.000 The hard part was actually looking at the code and the software development kit.

01:55:30.000 But then I got it to actually... It was a team effort.

01:55:33.000 We all worked on it.

01:55:34.000 We actually had the drone flying around live broadcasting.

01:55:37.000 It was super cool.

01:55:38.000 And yeah, for those that are asking.

01:55:40.000 And then because of that, someone wrote that I built a blimp, which I never did, and it made it to Wikipedia that I invented a Zeppelin, and then no matter how many times I said I did not invent a Zeppelin, they called it the drone stream, and then the Zeppelin had some name, and I'm like, we didn't do this, and then it took like seven years to get it removed from Wikipedia, but then I decided a couple years ago, I'm gonna make it retroactively true, so then we did, and then they refused to reinstate the article claiming I did because it was false, even though it's true now.

01:56:06.000 Wow.

01:56:06.000 That's fun.

01:56:08.000 Anyway.

01:56:10.000 Yeah, so my point about college is I have too many friends who have moved towards communism because of their debt.

01:56:19.000 Demanding Joe Biden get elected because they're in debt and they want the debt relieved.

01:56:23.000 Too many people who can't get jobs because the jobs can't pay enough to cover their debt and the debt did nothing for them.

01:56:29.000 It's almost like that was planned.

01:56:30.000 There was no whole point.

01:56:31.000 It's to put them in debt so they have to say, oh, everything's unfair.

01:56:33.000 I can't get a job.

01:56:34.000 I can't work.

01:56:35.000 They have to become quote unquote Marxist in order to say, like, I deserve money, guys.

01:56:40.000 Right, but also, you know, when we signed away, like, we were like 18 years old signing away huge debts, like, that we didn't know that it was a racket, really.

01:56:50.000 And then they also, like, at the same time are bringing in all these migrants who we're forcing Americans and American students to compete against as cheap foreign labor, pushing our wages down. 1.00

01:57:01.000 Like, the system is stacked against us, and it really is.

01:57:05.000 And, you know, I think that I'm gonna get probably hit for this, but I do agree in some form of student loan relief or forgiveness program in a way where people can pay back their debt fairly.

01:57:17.000 I do.

01:57:18.000 I think that there is a way because a lot of people didn't sign.

01:57:21.000 They didn't know.

01:57:21.000 I think all interests should be abolished.

01:57:24.000 The student loan debt interest is insane.

01:57:28.000 Here's how it should work.

01:57:30.000 We should go and look at all the loans and subtract all interest from the point of the loan from the remainder of it.

01:57:39.000 And then if it exceeds what you've already paid, you get a tax credit towards that remaining balance.

01:57:44.000 So let's say, let's say you took out a loan for 50 grand and because of the interest, you've paid back 80 and still owe 70.

01:57:52.000 So we say all interest is gone, which means you're in excess of $30,000 of your loan.

01:57:57.000 We'll apply that to your future taxes.

01:57:59.000 And that way, you must pay back what you were given and what you spent, but the interest is predatory.

01:58:03.000 And that's the compromise.

01:58:05.000 That way, nobody gets a freebie.

01:58:07.000 You still gotta pay back what you borrowed, but we do recognize this was bunk and BS.

01:58:12.000 And seize college endowments so that it depends on, like, the success of the student to make sure they get paid back.

01:58:18.000 Because right now it doesn't matter.

01:58:19.000 They can send a student off and they fail at life and it doesn't matter to them.

01:58:23.000 They're losing all this now, though, because of their support for Hamas. 0.87

01:58:25.000 So all these billionaires and millionaires are like, we are no longer going to be contributing.

01:58:29.000 Have a nice day.

01:58:30.000 I think the universities should pay off the student loan debt with their endowments.

01:58:35.000 I just think the interest.

01:58:36.000 I like that.

01:58:37.000 Just the interest.

01:58:38.000 I think the individual must pay what they got.

01:58:42.000 We can argue, yes, we'll forgive student loan debts with the endowments.

01:58:45.000 That still means a bunch of leftist communists got 50 grand for free.

01:58:49.000 Yeah, there's no need for that either.

01:58:51.000 Well, so the idea is, if you got $50,000 and then bought things with it, you got a degree, that degree's valuable, right?

01:58:57.000 Okay, you bought food, you paid rent, you must pay back the value that you were gifted.

01:59:02.000 But the interest is predatory, so yeah, seize the endowments, cover the cost of all the interest from the endowments, and then the individual must pay back their principal.

01:59:11.000 I took out student loans just so that I didn't have to work full-time while I was in grad school.

01:59:15.000 You just pay them back?

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 Well, there you go.

01:59:17.000 You would get a credit for all that torture taxes.

01:59:19.000 That'd be nice.

01:59:20.000 The interest.

01:59:21.000 That'd be nice.

01:59:22.000 I know people who were like, I took out $70,000 in loans

01:59:24.000 and I owe $100,000 right now after paying 80.

01:59:27.000 Yeah.

01:59:27.000 I'm like, what?

01:59:28.000 Right, it's messed up.

01:59:29.000 It's really messed up.

01:59:30.000 It's crazy, dude.

01:59:31.000 And you know, and also the whole corporate structure is rigged against conservatives.

01:59:36.000 Like it is so hard for a white male, like a straight white male to move up on the ladder 0.97

01:59:40.000 because everything is like competing against him, trying to push him down.

01:59:44.000 I think that the system is rigged against a lot of...

01:59:47.000 I... I...

01:59:48.000 Regular ordinary good folks who went to college and they aren't able to because they're competing against H1B visa workers who come in who will work twice as long for half as much. 0.95

01:59:59.000 We can't compete.

02:00:00.000 So I think that there's a win-win strategy here where you hire American first, you don't make them compete with cheap foreign labor.

02:00:10.000 You pay them a fair wage, and yeah, then we could pay our debts back without interest.

02:00:15.000 I liked that very much.

02:00:16.000 You know, and that is possible.

02:00:17.000 But I think there is a way forward that is fair for everybody to pay their student loan debt, or be able to afford it, and have jobs and working lives.

02:00:26.000 Like, you know, conservatives, we all work for a living.

02:00:29.000 We all have jobs for a living.

02:00:30.000 These left-wing people, like, a lot of them sit at home and don't do work.

02:00:35.000 Um, there are, you know, of course, I'm not speaking for the majority of them, but the college students who are complaining because they can't afford their student loans, like, they didn't really try, like, and they don't really have jobs, so.

02:00:45.000 I want to read, uh, two more here.

02:00:47.000 CVA Buck says, or, I'm sorry, Jeff Bader says, electrical engineering, try being one without a degree.

02:00:52.000 And then, CVA Buck, just after him, says, I'm a senior engineer at a nuclear power plant with no degree.

02:00:57.000 Ten years Navy nuke experience plus industry certifications, just now working on degree.

02:01:02.000 One of the funniest things that I think was ever said to me was, after Occupy Wall Street, I get featured in a bunch of magazines, I get featured in Times Person of the Year, one of six features.

02:01:13.000 I was featured in Times, nominated for Times 100 Most Influential People.

02:01:16.000 Not that we care about the mainstream media, it's just like the industry is giving me these accolades.

02:01:20.000 It's featured in GQ, six page spread, front page featured story, featured in Maxim Spin, getting all this stuff like, wow, look at the journalism he's doing, the new technology and everything.

02:01:32.000 And then I had family members being like, are you gonna go to college now?

02:01:34.000 And I was like, I'm in the magazine for the futuristic work and the transformative nature of what I'm doing.

02:01:42.000 Why are you asking me to go to college?

02:01:44.000 It's just, this mentality is insane to me.

02:01:48.000 I remember I had a, I had a very different, I had like a, like a perspective shift.

02:01:54.000 This was ages ago at this point, but my mom, I went to school for art. 0.90

02:01:58.000 I was like doing theater arts and whatever other stupid stuff I was doing. 0.57

02:02:02.000 And my mom always hated it and she was always very critical of like the work I was doing. 0.95

02:02:07.000 She was like, Oh, you know, you're working really hard and you're not making any money.

02:02:11.000 I was a director at a non-profit, which is a job that requires a degree.

02:02:14.000 And then I stopped doing that and I started doing this, like journalism and editing and all of this kind of stuff.

02:02:22.000 And she was like, honey, why are you doing that?

02:02:24.000 Why, that's not such a great thing for you to do.

02:02:26.000 And I was like, oh, I will never please the people who want me to do something different.

02:02:31.000 So I'm going to not worry about it ever again.

02:02:34.000 I was a director at a nonprofit, which is a job that requires a degree.

02:02:38.000 You'll never find one that doesn't, and I don't have a degree.

02:02:40.000 There's no reason for a degree to be a director of a not-for-profit.

02:02:44.000 They have their arguments, but all of these companies are like, degree required in these fields, and I'm like, I don't have one.

02:02:50.000 And it's just like, if... Yeah, well, they require it, but it really doesn't require the degree in order to do the job.

02:02:56.000 Like, I'd rather have somebody with experience, ten years experience, rather than a four-year degree that they just came out, you know?

02:03:02.000 I think this is the difference between, like, boomers, Gen X, and millennials.

02:03:05.000 Gen X and millennials are more likely to say, I don't care about a degree, can you do the job?

02:03:08.000 Boomers are more likely to say, get a degree. 1.00

02:03:12.000 True.

02:03:12.000 We'll go a little bit over, but I just want to wrap this one up.

02:03:16.000 My perspective on this is that boomers didn't need degrees because after the greatest generation, after the World War II, we had this tremendous economy, we had this massive manufacturing base, and so the economy was really, really great.

02:03:27.000 Right.

02:03:28.000 So if you were a high school graduate, you could have a family.

02:03:31.000 If you went to college, you'd make six figures back then, a lot of money. 0.99

02:03:35.000 What happens then is a bunch of young boomers see their college grad friends making six figures, and they're like, damn. 0.98

02:03:41.000 I should've went to college. 0.95

02:03:42.000 College is what makes you money.

02:03:45.000 When in reality, if you don't need to go to college, if everyone around you can survive a high school diploma, and you say, no I'm going to college, it was likely because you were pursuing a passion.

02:03:54.000 You were chasing after something you really wanted to learn about, computers or whatever.

02:03:59.000 Your passion is why you made six figures, not the college degree.

02:04:02.000 But the people who didn't go thought it was the degree itself, told all their kids to get it.

02:04:07.000 Millennials then started going to get degrees.

02:04:09.000 Gen Xers were just like, I don't care if you have a degree, dude, can you do the job? 1.00

02:04:13.000 And so that's where we are now.

02:04:14.000 But we'll wrap it up there, because we're going a little late.

02:04:16.000 Gen Xers are still like that, I will say. 1.00

02:04:18.000 Right.

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