Rucka Rucka Ali joins Jemele to discuss the Grammys, the Teen Vogue firing of their editor-in-chief, and a new book about the Cat in the Hat by Dr. Seuss.
00:00:04.000you Last night, I think it was last night, was the Grammys and
00:00:35.000And I don't really know if it was last night, I think it was, because I don't care about the Grammys, I don't watch the Grammys, and I don't think anybody here did watch the Grammys.
00:00:43.000Nobody watched the Grammys, nobody cared to watch the Grammys, but there was something interesting.
00:00:46.000That's either a sign of the expansion of the extremism that we see in the mainstream corporate media, Or it's a sign that they're becoming so utterly desperate that they're willing to cling onto any narrative that they think will make them money, because this rapper performed a song where he actually depicted riots, and they did a very propagandized version of the Rayshard Brooks incident, and then activist Tamika Mallory, who's considered to be particularly controversial, notably when the New York Times called her out for anti-Semitism,
00:01:16.000Came out and gave a speech, essentially, where she said, we don't need allies, we need accomplices.
00:01:21.000Which could be seen as, like, advocating for crime and calling for people to do more?
00:01:26.000And it's kind of crazy that a mainstream program, the Grammys, would do something like this.
00:01:31.000But I guess the ratings are in the trash, so probably... probably nobody really wants to watch.
00:01:36.000And they were hoping that people like me would call them out to generate some kind of buzz for their failing program.
00:01:42.000Which is a part of the conversation as well.
00:01:44.000So we have a lot to talk about in this culture war space.
00:04:47.000You look like one of these musicians, you know, who goes out, you play the gig, and that's cool, but then we catch you.
00:04:54.000Out back of the venue after the show you've had a few drinks and you're a little loose with the language You're dropping like little few gamer words here and there Get a little handsy with the ladies without written consent I'm a Keanu Reeves man that describes Ian for one inch off the back.
00:06:02.000But I actually have friends in Chicago.
00:06:04.000You can actually find buildings that are old-speak- old, like... I'll put it this way.
00:06:08.000I used to hang out at this house where the bathroom window made no sense.
00:06:11.000Because when you opened it, it was a brick wall.
00:06:13.000But then if you reached your hand along the wall, you would find there was an opening to your left.
00:06:18.000And they would transfer, like, little bits of beer, like, jugs and stuff back and forth.
00:06:22.000So it was the weirdest thing to have a building with a window to a brick wall.
00:06:25.000But it was, like, kinda obvious when you thought about it?
00:06:28.000I guess during Prohibition, people were a lot stupider, so the cops were like, this window seems perfectly normal, even though it looks like a brick wall.
00:07:15.000I think we're gonna have a great time.
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00:08:18.000And let's let's check out the story real quick.
00:08:35.000So he's like wearing this fake bulletproof vest, and they show this mock incident of Rayshard Brooks.
00:08:39.000Now, for those that don't remember, Rayshard Brooks was the guy who was driving drunk, and he was in the Wendy's drive-thru when he passed out drunk.
00:08:46.000Because he wouldn't move, someone called the cops, may have been the restaurant.
00:08:50.000When the police showed up, they were like, you know, out of the vehicle, you've had too much to drink.
00:08:54.000When they tried to arrest him, he actually fought the cops, punched one of the cops in the face.
00:08:58.000There's multiple camera angles of this, security footage, body cams.
00:09:01.000And then actually grabbed the taser and hit one of the cops with it, knocking him to the ground.
00:09:05.000The cop hit his head, got a concussion.
00:09:07.000When he ran for it, the other cop gave chase, Rayshard Brooks turned and then fired the second cartridge from the taser, and that's when the cop drew his weapon and shot the guy twice, and it killed him.
00:09:21.000They put out this fake clip, this fake still from the incident where they tried claiming the cop kicked the guy when he was down, kicked Brooks when he was down.
00:09:28.000But now what we're seeing at the Grammys, of all things, is they're doing this reenactment where in the reenactment it's like the guy just peacefully gets on the ground and like puts his hands up and it is not at all what you see in the actual body camera footage.
00:09:40.000For those that don't actually know the story, they would see this and they would believe the activist narrative as opposed to the actual truth.
00:09:47.000This is one of the biggest problems we have right now, I think, in the country, is that a lot of people They get their information secondhand.
00:09:53.000They get it distilled by people with political motives and agendas, and that's true of this show, and it's true of the Grammys.
00:09:58.000Granted, I think we're a bit more discerning and a bit more honest on this show, and there are many other political commentators who will be more honest, but for the most part, when it filters through people with agendas, you get lies and misrepresentations.
00:10:10.000But the bigger thing about this was that they brought out Tamika Mallory, The reason that's interesting is because she's been accused of pushing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
00:10:20.000And it made everybody really question the Women's March, of which she was one of the principal organizers.
00:10:25.000And I think there was a big controversy, like some groups broke up, some pulled out, a bunch of activists were like, we don't want to be involved in this, because she's got questionable associations.
00:10:35.000In this speech or whatever, she said we don't need allies, we need accomplices.
00:10:40.000And the crazy thing is when they're doing this depiction of riots as kind of a good thing, and they're having this activist come out and say these things, I think it's actually fairly worrying.
00:10:50.000I guess the bigger question though is the political ramifications of this and whether or not we should actually even care about the Grammys, both because it's trash and the writings are trash and no one cares about the Grammys, or more importantly because should we get all hot and bothered by offensive performances, you know, because we don't like it?
00:11:08.000So, Rukka, considering you do these videos, you clearly have no issue... What's the right word?
00:11:24.000So what's your thoughts on what's been going on this past year in, like, the Grammys, for instance?
00:11:29.000I mean, it used to be like, you know, 95% music and 5%, you know, let's take this opportunity to remember that, like, killing unarmed civilians, uh, you know, and calling them gamer word with your arm, uh, with your boot on their neck in their dying moments.
00:11:46.000It's not the way to progress forward as a nation.
00:11:50.000Now it's like 110% statements and like 1% music.
00:11:56.000And people are going to say, oh, that's way more percentage points than logic permits.
00:12:01.000So I'm going to pass it along to the smart looking guy here to explain that one.
00:12:06.000I think accomplice is a legal term for meaning that you're there for the crime.
00:12:31.000No, it doesn't make sense, but like, I think they've got premises that most people unfortunately have.
00:12:39.000So like, do you ever hear people saying like, we gotta stop big tech, you know?
00:12:44.000We gotta stop letting big tech treat us this way.
00:12:46.000So they're taking all these separate companies, grouping them as though they're a monolith, and wanting to basically either punish them or hamper them collectively.
00:12:54.000So why shouldn't all stores around the neighborhood get punished collectively if people are upset at the police?
00:13:10.000There's a big difference between a fast food restaurant that called the cops and big tech companies that actually have meetings together and are proven to actually collude with each other to remove political dissent.
00:13:21.000So, like, there's not a concerted effort among Wendy's, McDonald's, and Burger King to frame black individuals who fall asleep in their driveways.
00:13:28.000It was just some employee who was like, yo, there's some guy, like, sleeping in the driveway.
00:13:46.000Look, you know as well as I do, people talk about Silicon Valley as if it's a monolith.
00:13:51.000So yeah, maybe Twitter, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube may be met together, but at the same time, there's like a trillion other companies that are hoping to someday be at that level.
00:14:01.000They're doing plenty of work, and these companies are also trying to compete against one another.
00:14:05.000But they're lumped together mentally as though they're a monolith, and I'm just pointing that out.
00:14:42.000I don't support even demonizing Google or condemning these companies in the vast majority of cases, or in some cases, yeah, criticize them harshly, but obviously I don't allow any level of violence by private citizens.
00:15:00.000I mean, and you see, and I hate to bring this up five minutes into the show, but when you look at the capital storming, you're seeing a bunch of reckless people treating Everyone in that building as though they're part of this concerted effort to deprive them of their rights or something like that.
00:15:16.000I mean, we need to think critically and we need to be clear.
00:15:20.000Well, so what are your thoughts on just like, I guess, the wokification and the activistification of media and like, you know, the Grammys, awards shows, commercials, commercial products?
00:16:30.000I mean, I talked about the killing of a dude by cops.
00:16:32.000I think we need to differentiate economic power from political power.
00:16:36.000And the more we conflate the two, the more we conflate political and economic power, the more we're gonna see economic power become the government.
00:16:43.000That is, corporations have friends in Washington and we're gonna see political power Basically politicians taking over the economy taking over industry so it's an ugly thing to watch it But it's been happening over a hundred years over longer than a hundred years so I keep in mind a lot of the outrageousness we see today is like the culmination of decades and decades and decades of
00:18:31.000There's no question that crime has gone down overall over the last few decades.
00:18:35.000I don't think there's any question of that.
00:18:36.000So like overall, we've gotten more civilized, but like what we've seen, not just this, not just in 2020, but I mean, you know, there's been plenty of rioting and looting and all types of outrageous stuff happening, you know, for some time.
00:18:49.000But like 2020 was the year of no more Fs to give, right?
00:19:38.000Okay, but I mean, is it going to basically just be home after home getting broken into and that's it?
00:19:43.000Goodbye to any semblance of civilization.
00:19:47.000I just had a horrific portent about the Chinese military invading and swiftly taking over the United States like a blitzkrieg, like if we were stupid enough to let our guard down.
00:19:57.000They were running war games and they were like, no, we can't stop the Chinese if they attack us.
00:20:01.000No, we talked about this with James Lindsay.
00:20:04.000Maybe he's like a very he's a he's a preeminent scholar on critical race theory in terms of criticizing it
00:20:12.000And what's what it's doing and it's like wokeness and things like that
00:20:14.000And what he was mentioning when it comes to china is that they're using political warfare
00:20:17.000So it seems more like they're interfering in our culture.
00:20:20.000They're interfering in our advertisements our our, you know Cultural creations our tv shows our radio programs our
00:20:26.000schools and things like that So you end up with ultra woke grammy's asking for people to
00:20:32.000basically commit crimes. This is the thing This performance they did and the reason I think it's
00:20:36.000important to bring up is that It's not that they're directly saying hey go commit crimes
00:20:41.000They're showing riots, viewing those riots as the good guys.
00:20:44.000Like, they're depicting that as they're the good guys, the cops the bad guys, the people burning down the buildings, or the Black Lives Matter activists who are fighting, who are the good guys.
00:21:37.000I mean, yeah, like seeing, you know, Melrose Avenue, Beverly Hills, seeing, you know, seeing beautiful things destroyed.
00:21:45.000And not only destroyed, but being, like, apologized for that.
00:21:49.000Meaning, like, people downplaying the severity of it and people encouraging it.
00:21:54.000Um, I just, I don't feel like LA is a city where I could meet somebody in the street and feel a bond with them.
00:22:00.000Now, obviously, a lot of people were not happy with what took place, to put it lightly, but, but I mean, the fact that culturally people are comfortable encouraging such behavior, Says that morally, you know, in the way people think about ethics, people committing that type of violence have the moral high ground.
00:22:19.000That's why they're comfortable getting on the Grammys and saying we need accomplices.
00:22:24.000So, I mean, the question to ask is, I think, not so much what's wrong with critical race theory, but what's the alternative?
00:22:30.000What are you offering as an alternative?
00:22:38.000Classical liberalism is typically about protecting the rights of the individual.
00:22:42.000And, I mean, that's the strongest way to put it.
00:22:45.000So, I don't know, is there any more specific... Well, I mean, I think... Versus, like, what we're saying with critical race theory is race-based collectivism.
00:22:53.000So we can get into... Yeah, I mean, I like where you're going with this, but is there a period of time in American history, for instance, you would say that's, like, when the classical liberals hung out?
00:23:10.000There's some elements of classical liberalism that have existed in the United States at various periods, but it's never been, like... Has it ever been more than less?
00:23:20.000Is there, like, a... I don't think the U.S.
00:23:22.000has ever been mostly classically liberal or libertarian in that regard.
00:23:28.000If you go back to the Founding Fathers, for instance, slavery.
00:23:31.000There's no question people were kept as property.
00:23:33.000And more importantly, while the ideas of classical liberalism helped drive the idea that we no longer had to be under the knee of some divine prominence, the king declaring it, We certainly didn't have absolute freedoms.
00:23:46.000There was cultural enforcement of various ideas.
00:23:50.000Women not being able to do certain things.
00:24:20.000There's this guy who just went viral earlier today because he tweeted to Bill Burr, who's got a black wife, that it may be a sign of racism.
00:24:28.000And he referred to Bill Burr's wife, and he's claiming he did, but he did as a minority Adult use slave, we'll put it that way.
00:24:38.000He literally claimed like Bill Burr was keeping this woman around for his pleasure as a slave, and it was one of the most shockingly disgusting things I've heard from a critical race theorist.
00:24:47.000So I'm like, hey, let's respect the individual.
00:24:50.000Let's have some, we need some regulation and some restriction, but we mostly want individual freedom.
00:24:56.000There's an interesting debate in the idea of collectivism in that there does have to be some, not none, but that we're going in the wrong direction with it.
00:25:06.000I mean, you gave me your point of view.
00:25:09.000So I think the topic of slavery and women's suffrage complicates things in a way that's difficult for me to make the point that I'm trying to make.
00:25:15.000But obviously, in most of history, slavery and ownership of women, basically pushing, you know, telling women what to do, has been the norm.
00:25:25.000I think your co-host looks like he still supports those things.
00:25:28.000Why are you ragging on Ian so much, man?
00:25:41.000Now, but like in that, so I think in their time, the Enlightenment thinkers, you know, the Age of Reason, as Thomas Paine, I think, dubbed it.
00:25:58.000But in their context, in their time in history, Even though slavery was a norm, even though women were still largely seen as basically trading cards.
00:26:08.000In their context, they were taking a very bold new step for man in drafting the Declaration of Independence, saying life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:26:22.000Life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:26:24.000And I wish they had it in there in order to help us have a lot more capitalism for a lot longer, possibly.
00:26:29.000But you know why they didn't have property in there?
00:26:32.000Because they wanted to stick it to the slaveholders, because they knew they would use their So when you look at context, when you look at the history of philosophy and all of the great brave steps that it took to go from the just blurry and reckless ancient and prehistoric times to get to a point where you have intellectuals establishing a country
00:27:02.000I mean, willing to fight for it, but then once the war is won, to sit and debate painstakingly and to look at, ask, what is human nature?
00:27:11.000What is the best type of society for a human being to live and to pursue life, liberty, and his own happiness?
00:27:19.000To get to that point is a magnificent intellectual achievement that we take for granted.
00:27:23.000So when I say classical liberal, I'm talking about those guys.
00:27:27.000And I'm not talking about what came after them, especially in America, like intellectuals, pragmatists, utilitarians, progressives, obviously.
00:27:37.000And of course we get the postmoderns and we get the critical race theorists, which is probably an offshoot of postmodern or something.
00:27:44.000I'm not an expert like your previous guest.
00:27:47.000I agree with you on the Founding Fathers.
00:27:49.000A lot of people don't realize this, but it wasn't just a political revolution, it was an ideological revolution.
00:27:54.000A lot of countries on the world were under the crown or some monarch or some autocrat or some kind of system where it was, you know, these kings would say by divine providence, I am the king, God wills it, you know, and then they would just tell people, do it or else, and they had people who were loyal to that idea and to them.
00:28:10.000And then all of a sudden you get this group of people in the U.S.
00:28:14.000Some of them, I've read a little bit about this, the authority of the Founding Fathers was questioned, even by some, like based on how they were voted to represent the colony they came from, because it was like, who saith this colony that you represent them in one independence?
00:28:26.000But these are a lot of people who are like, yo, we don't need a king.
00:28:30.000We can rule by the consent of the governed.
00:28:36.000And there were a lot of ideas, but I think when you look back at history, While I absolutely take the good from the Founding Fathers, I've got the coin collection for Thomas Jefferson.
00:28:47.000I also think he was a product of his times.
00:28:49.000There's a lot of things back then we criticize.
00:28:51.000The reason I don't highlight all of those and emphasize them and condemn the Founding Fathers over those things is that we've changed, and we don't want to be like, we hate these people because they did bad things.
00:29:00.000Nobody was saying, we want to say, they did bad things, but here are these really, really good things we're keeping now.
00:29:05.000But I do think it's fair to point out, I mean, they did a lot of bad things, but we're not here to talk about them as people.
00:29:10.000We're talking about the ideas that they promoted and the effect, what made them stand out in history.
00:29:14.000And so, while I agree with you about the Founding Fathers, for their time was a radical bunch of classical liberal types fighting for the rights of the individual against this king, willing to literally fight and die.
00:29:24.000And many of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence had their legacies, their names, and their lives stripped away from them.
00:29:30.000That was a bold and amazing bunch of people.
00:29:33.000To go back then, I think, would be a rude awakening for a lot of people today in terms of what you could or couldn't do because of cultural and social enforcement.
00:29:41.000So that's my big concern today with things like critical race theory, Black Lives Matter, and commercials.
00:29:46.000That it's not so much about what's legal.
00:30:42.000But they don't have the right to require somebody else to call them anything or to treat them any certain way.
00:30:47.000Which is part of what I'm saying about cultural enforcement.
00:30:50.000Look obviously but also like you can't really speak about what's taking place in the culture and not acknowledge the fact that we have a largely meddled with economy so we have business and government largely blended together regulation and subsidies right so favors and penalties you gotta divorce the two and that's exactly What the Founding Fathers should have done more explicitly.
00:31:14.000They did a pretty good job implementing a separation of state from economics.
00:31:18.000Not a perfect job, but a pretty good job.
00:31:20.000But they should have put it in writing.
00:31:21.000So in the Constitution, it should have said, separate church from state, separate economics from state.
00:32:33.000And then you may as well find a different career, one that's not been infected by this cultural dogma.
00:32:40.000So if you want classical liberalism, you've got to contend with the fact that, you know, politics is downstream from culture.
00:32:46.000We can get a bunch of great politicians to talk about a bunch of great ideas, but then if no one is willing to do certain things because they're scared their neighbors will yell at them, it just won't happen.
00:32:53.000Yeah I mean look you know I said you can't you can't look at the way the world is going and people are having their livelihoods destroyed and all types of problems without acknowledging the fact we have a regulatory state and a largely tempered with economy but I'll go further and say you can't look at the way people behave and what they believe without acknowledging the history of philosophy so the fact we have a world where so many people uh... think they can invent their own gender or that we live in a world where people think that you know calling for accomplices in basically overthrowing civil order is acceptable and that is conducive to life on earth it speaks to philosophical development so i will offer you the following after the founding fathers and the men of the age of reason and maybe some women as well i don't know
00:33:40.000Um, sort of came up with their innovations in philosophy and they discovered that the nature of man calls for his rights to be protected by a government with a monopoly on force.
00:33:50.000And I think John Locke, John, have you even read Locke?
00:33:54.000You know, played a large role in in providing people like Thomas Paine with those ideas.
00:34:01.000But after America was established, the intellectuals of the generations after them, they put all of their effort into basically reversing what the founders had implemented intellectually.
00:34:15.000So, what they call the, before the progressives, the pragmatists, Pragmatism is the American philosophy, not the founder's philosophy, but like the post-founding American philosophy.
00:34:30.000You go to any public school, you go to any house of learning since, you know, sometime in the 19th century and onward, pragmatism was like the, uh, was the American philosophy, which it was influenced by the Germans.
00:34:43.000It was influenced by Hegel and Kant and other philosophers who rejected certainty.
00:34:49.000They said, look, all you know is you can't be certain.
00:34:52.000I mean, they said a lot of other things, too.
00:34:53.000But once that was in place, once intellectuals said that the individual cannot look at the world independently, observe it independently, and be rational about it, and make independently rational decisions, and live, and should be protected in doing so, that his right to do so should be protected.
00:35:13.000Once they were rejecting that type of independence and the rejected reason, in essence, the era of the founders was over.
00:35:54.000Yeah, but I mean, when you reject reason at the highest levels of the intellectual world, then what do you expect kids to be taught in, you know, elementary school?
00:36:02.000Think about that idea of divine providence or whatever, that just trust me, the Lord wills that I be king or whatever.
00:36:10.000You gotta take away reason from an individual if you want to establish a system like that.
00:36:14.000For the longest time, people didn't reason.
00:36:25.000Donald Trump's presidency is in a certain way similar to, like, the way you're describing the American Revolution and the Founding Fathers.
00:36:37.000I'm not saying because— I think I— But I'll get the idea.
00:36:40.000I'm not saying because Trump was right.
00:36:41.000I'm not saying because Trump was good.
00:36:43.000I'm saying because it was basically an affront to the established order.
00:36:48.000That Donald Trump was not supposed to win.
00:36:50.000Whatever it is he was doing was offensive to those in power.
00:36:53.000And so they very much did not like him and said, this can't happen again.
00:36:57.000I look back at the founding fathers and you have this point where there was a deviation away from the crown and the absolute authority of those who were, you know, willed to be kings.
00:37:07.000And like you mentioned, all of a sudden, generation after generation, they've stripped away reason and taught children to be better and better sheep till now here we are.
00:37:16.000Well, I mean, I think a lot of people who like Trump, whom are not bad people, would probably say they were drawn to him for reasons that you described, because they see a sort of pushback against authority or being told what to do, and they see him as sort of this kind of independent guy that doesn't let the media or anyone tell him what to do.
00:37:37.000I get that, but left sort of unchecked, like kind of left without Without any correction, what Trump, I think, represents is just this dispensing with any sort of rational method.
00:37:52.000Trump says what passes through his head, and that becomes so-called reality, and his fans love it.
00:38:02.000I would say, you know, look, out of 74.2 million people, it was a much smaller fraction.
00:38:06.000I'm not talking about anyone who voted for him, because a lot of people voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils, or even because they liked some things about him.
00:38:13.000But, I mean, I'm talking about what Trump represents, the way he's influenced the Republican Party, the way he's influenced the way people go about politics.
00:38:22.000I think he definitely represents a serious development for the worst, but I get where you're coming from when you say that kind of emotionally he speaks to people sort of like the ghost of the Founding Fathers.
00:38:34.000I'm just saying, like, you have an established order, you have the Democratic and Republican establishment, and then all of a sudden Trump comes along and he's a bull, just stampeding through and kind of just knocking over their stuff.
00:38:45.000I'm not saying there's an equivalence in his philosophy.
00:38:48.000I'm saying that you have kings, you have colonization, you have war, you have monarchs, autocrats, and here come the Founding Fathers saying, screw you, what are you gonna do about it?
00:38:57.000Well, remember the Founding Fathers were in intellectuals and when they weren't killing the British
00:39:02.000they were taking a lot of time to make sure they got it right and they had
00:39:06.000beliefs about the nature of man and they were intellectuals and they were to
00:39:10.000really the one time in history that intellectuals were also
00:39:12.000blowing heads off but then carefully crafting out a system of government
00:39:16.000so I could basically flip that and say the way Trump behaves the way
00:39:20.000he's willing to basically smash the system reminds me of some Attilas in
00:39:24.000history some Genghis Khan sure so I mean by the way by the way Kings Kings are
00:39:29.000not a natural fact of history like Kings that King
00:39:32.000The rule of kings did not just evolve like the chimpanzee.
00:39:37.000There was a time when there was, let's say, democracy in Greece.
00:39:40.000Far from perfect, but much better than just the king and the pope telling peasants how to live.
00:39:47.000There was Rome, which was also a senate-type of system.
00:39:52.000Ancient sort of ages of reason where they where they highly embraced reason and they really wanted to get it right And so how did we go from that to the dark age which very much exists?
00:40:04.000Seems like I think we're getting into that.
00:40:06.000I think it was the rejection of reason which is why you get brutes in charge, but Real quick.
00:40:17.000I mean, listen, I can't predict something like that.
00:40:19.000Like, let's say it's possible that authoritarianism is on the rise, but let's say technology is just developing so fast and people love it so much that the authoritarians don't want to take that away from people.
00:40:30.000Like, there's a number of outcomes where this can take us that I cannot predict.
00:40:35.000I can't just rationalistically say, nope, like all the things add up, like it all adds up, we're going to have authoritarianism.
00:40:42.000I can't predict that, but the way we're going, the way that reason is being rejected, the way that brute force is being celebrated, and we're seeing brute force a lot, and so to have somebody like Trump in such a prominent place in society, I think, Sadly, does not say something positive about where we're heading.
00:41:00.000I like how many nods I've been getting from you, you know?
00:41:02.000I'm happy, I feel comfortable, I'm happy to be here.
00:41:05.000Get your ideas and your thoughts, you know what I mean?
00:41:09.000I'm not saying Trump is like the Founding Fathers.
00:41:11.000We can argue that there was an aberration in the established order where the Founding Fathers pushed us heavily towards individualism and freedom, and then with Trump, it was a rejection of establishment.
00:41:24.000So the point I was making more so was that the powers that be were outraged.
00:41:29.000And what I see is with Trump, there was this concerted effort to fortify the election, as Time Magazine called it, because they did not want Trump to become president again or to get reelected with the founding fathers.
00:41:41.000I absolutely believe what you were saying is true.
00:41:44.000There's a lot of people, probably just because the system is exploitable.
00:41:47.000When you have freedom, it's very difficult to maintain because cheaters can cheat.
00:41:55.000Over time, our system has been exploited to push for the lowest common denominator.
00:42:00.000Our school systems are making our youth institutionalized and incapable.
00:42:05.000And now we end up with a generation of millennials saddled with massive debt for degrees they can't use.
00:42:11.000And what skills have they earned from spending all this money and just being extracted, essentially, by Freddie Mac and Sally May, those are the names of the company?
00:42:27.000No, I just mean like... Listen, I mean... To go from the Founding Fathers, freedom, to now have people demanding communism.
00:42:34.000Well, not only are they demanding communism... I don't even know how much people are demanding communism.
00:42:38.000I think people, like let's say on the far left, are demanding something even uglier than communism, like some kind of Cambodian egalitarianism, where everyone with any level of privilege is shaved down.
00:43:53.000He represents the worst of the intellectual, or the first worst of the intellectual.
00:43:59.000There's been worse intellectuals than the pragmatists.
00:44:01.000But he, to me, Donald Trump represents the The absolute rejection of the founding fathers, which is why a lot of very crappy... See, I'm trying to keep you monetized.
00:44:13.000A lot of very bad people that have emerged in the last few years.
00:44:15.000A lot of very anti-individualistic people on the right.
00:44:59.000And in addition to that, on a deeper level, it's the rejection of principles.
00:45:03.000You never see Trump get up there and talk about how the founders gave us these principles that will protect us from government authoritarianism.
00:45:10.000When Trump was inaugurated, he didn't get up there and talk about the reverence that we should have for the founders.
00:45:17.000He got up there and goes, Today marks a power transfer from the government back to the people.
00:45:22.000I mean, this has nothing to do with the founding principles of America.
00:45:27.000This has nothing to do with any principles.
00:45:29.000I don't think the Trump supporters are rejecting those principles.
00:45:31.000I think they... I'm not saying all of them again.
00:45:32.000I'm not saying all of Trump voters... No, no, no, no.
00:45:34.000I think you'd find they would all agree with you on everything you're saying about the Founding Fathers.
00:45:37.000Well, then we need to be very meticulous in identifying what it is we like about the Founding Fathers.
00:45:42.000I would say it's that they were men of principles, and the principles of individual rights.
00:45:46.000And, you know, getting to a point where we have a guy who just invents facts out of thin air that just occur to him, and that people are willing to die for those so-called utterances, and that Trump could later change his mind, and they'll then change their mind as well.
00:46:01.000To have that, I think it represents something that absolutely rejects any philosophy.
00:46:07.000I think the amount of people you're describing is smaller than you realize.
00:46:11.000I mean, people who take it that far are small.
00:46:13.000The people who stormed the Capitol disregarded the President himself.
00:46:16.000I don't think they care all that much about him.
00:46:19.000The people who support the President, and many of them probably blindly, were at Trump's rally, watching him speak.
00:46:25.000But the storming of the Capitol started while Trump was still speaking, when Trump said, peacefully march, and even people like Alex Jones, this is according to PBS, Jones was saying, don't fight the cops, please be peaceful.
00:46:45.000And they're probably these people, probably the authoritarians who think in their minds that the heroes of the constitution or whatever.
00:46:51.000But if your idea of fighting for freedom and principles and what the Founding Fathers did is to just barge your way into a constitutional process that you disagree with, that's literally not.
00:47:01.000More importantly, if you were going to support the President and his fight and he said to do it peacefully, you clearly don't support the President.
00:47:07.000So those people, I don't think, represent the larger picture.
00:47:09.000I think what Trump represents from the day that he entered politics is a dispensing with principles.
00:47:14.000He has always spoken about America like a business he's going to run, like an executive.
00:47:19.000He's always spoken about economic liberty.
00:47:21.000Well, he never uses that phrase, but economics as though it's for him to manage and micromanage or to issue declarations.
00:47:29.000So what Trump represents is a turn away from principles.
00:47:33.000Again, that doesn't mean all his voters want to dispense with principles, but certainly people that want to dispense with principles, people that want America minus its founding documents, people that want America to be a land of geography and of genetics, people who believe that America is just a group of people with no relation to philosophy, those people, they see Trump rightfully as a step in their direction.
00:47:58.000Now I've gone from the nodding with you to the shaking my head.
00:49:25.000I guess it depends on what you poll, but the number one issue for Republicans is control of immigration.
00:49:30.000Why is that the number one issue for Republicans?
00:49:33.000So a lot of the Republicans live in rural areas.
00:49:36.000Many of them saw their small towns destroyed by a loss of industry as free trade agreements shipped off these factories to Mexico, to China.
00:49:42.000That's one of the things that Bernie and Trump both had in 2015 and 16.
00:49:47.000Bernie ended up eventually just joining the Democratic establishment, but Trump, he's
00:49:51.000the guy where Michael Moore, Michael Moore gave the speech where he was like, Donald
00:49:56.000Trump went to the auto executives and said, I will put a 30% tariff on your car and no
00:50:11.000One big thing they're seeing with immigration is the job market is depressed.
00:50:15.000So their view, I'm not trying to make certain facts, I'm trying to say this is the general understanding I have.
00:50:20.000When you have mass migration and an industry being shipped overseas, so Joe Biden wants more free trade agreements, he wants higher corporate tax, and he wants no deportations for 100 days, which he lost that fight.
00:50:34.000What ends up happening is you have more workers, less jobs, and an incentive with higher corporate taxes for companies to leave and the opportunity to do so.
00:50:42.000You're going to get a Donald Trump who says, I'm going to reject those things when you have rural voters who lost their manufacturing plants, who lost their coal mining facilities, of which there weren't that many, but these manufacturing plants were shipped overseas.
00:50:55.000Donald Trump says, I'll get you those things back.
00:50:57.000So how did we go from being a country where the individual's rights are inalienable to becoming a country where people in rural areas have a right to having their job provided to them for it not being shipped off overseas or anything else?
00:51:11.000What happened to the days of individuals in America packing up?
00:51:15.000Back in the day when a plant would close down, they would load up their cart and they would Which moved to somewhere where there are jobs.
00:51:40.000So we need to get back to free market economics and we need to get back to a philosophical view of man that says man's rights are inalienable, including the man who builds his own company and ends up hiring many people and then later decides that the way the world is changing and the way his business is growing, it makes more sense for him to move it to a different location in or outside the country.
00:52:00.000And the government has no place incentivizing nor punishing that action.
00:52:04.000I agree with much of what you just said.
00:52:06.000I don't wanna get into every single point, but specifically, one of the problems with making your own company is regulations.
00:52:11.000How do you compete with a factory in China that has none?
00:52:14.000And if you're trying, so, you know, they shut down your factory, now you got a bunch of workers who want to work.
00:52:19.000And you say, I'd love to hire you, but I can't afford to pay 10 bucks an hour to everybody because I gotta compete with China that pays a dollar.
00:52:26.000So now people here can't even compete with the industry of these other companies.
00:52:32.000The government is disincentivizing and restricting the ability for people to actually start their own industries.
00:52:37.000Now, you can go out onto your small plot of land, say you have one, and chop your own wood and hunt for your own food if you're able to, but now we've got a whole bunch of government regulatory problems.
00:52:47.000If you're not legally allowed to hunt, then how do you do it?
00:53:18.000I think that at a time when we're basically putting the internet in objects that fit in your pocket, that people are not moving to places where they can learn new skills and look for new jobs.
00:53:29.000Everyone is just going to sit there and either accept welfare or demand that the president provide them with a job.
00:53:37.000Whatever happened to the land of the individual?
00:54:22.000Certain people lose their jobs, and so they vote for Trump.
00:54:26.000It brings me no joy when anyone loses their job, but believe me, in a capitalist, a real capitalist society, I mean, I know you have some free market sentiments, you probably agree that in an actual capitalist society, there'd be more jobs than people able to fill them, right?
00:54:39.000I think it's a really interesting point you bring up about everything that's going on in that maybe people need to stop asking the government for help, even Republicans and conservatives who tend to be the ones who argue that they're not the ones doing that.
00:54:54.000Voting for Trump to end these free trade agreements is asking the government to bring your companies back.
00:55:00.000And Donald Trump did that by using the power of government.
00:55:02.000Whereas technology has dramatically changed, and the ability to transport products overseas has made it very, very easy for companies to exist in areas where it's easier to operate.
00:55:11.000It looks like the lack of restrictions on Chinese labor has made them able to compete better.
00:55:16.000I'm not a staunch capitalist. And by the way, American standard of living has risen because of
00:55:21.000uh trade with Chinese companies. You know, you got you got people in rural areas going to a big
00:55:26.000beautiful shiny Walmart and buying a wardrobe for their kids, buying stocking up with plenty of food
00:55:31.000to eat. I mean because of well maybe not food from China but but you know what I'm saying.
00:55:36.000There's a lot going on there, though, man.
00:55:39.000Look, I mean, and if China's up to actual crime, if they're stealing intellectual property, or if they're ripping off Americans, obviously, or it should be obvious, the job of the American government is to say, no way, we're protecting the rights of our citizens.
00:55:52.000That is the job of the government, but the job of the government is not to bring jobs home.
00:55:56.000That is not the job of a proper government, and they can't do it anyway, even if they try.
00:56:14.000So the choice today is between pragmatists, who they only think about the very short term and go with their feeling, versus, you know, postmodern egalitarians, who they're looking at the, quote, big picture, but their big picture is effed in the A, if you catch what I'm alluding to here.
00:58:44.000We saw this with with Carl Benjamin on patreon He got banned from patreon Because some activists went and found a year old live stream on an obscure channel where he made a bad racial reference Okay, he goes to join subscribe star which was a competitor to patron to patreon what happens I PayPal and Stripe ban Subscribestar.
00:59:06.000So what do you do when you do start a new company and then your infrastructure gets ripped out from under you because people with power bully those smaller companies?
00:59:15.000If we rely on these companies so much, then I think we're in no position to be making demands of them.
00:59:22.000We have a largely regulated market where luckily some elements of the economy are fairly unregulated and we've seen such magnificent success stories like Patreon, like PayPal, which by the way, anything financial is the most highly regulated part of the country.
00:59:38.000It kills me that we have the financial industry as the most regulated.
00:59:43.000So that means that if a bank decides to cut you off, they don't want to deal with you.
00:59:48.000Obviously in a free market, it would not be like that.
00:59:50.000So look, I mean, again, anytime you name a problem, I'll say either the problem is probably being exaggerated or more likely it's a result of government regulation.
01:00:12.000And the issue is, we're trying to reduce the amount of problems all the time, and sometimes our solutions create more problems than we intended.
01:00:19.000Are we trying to solve all these problems?
01:01:36.000They would fi- I mean- That's my private property.
01:01:39.000You can't drive on my private property to get to that side of the building to build your road.
01:01:42.000They would have to find another way to get there.
01:01:44.000There's gotta be some kind of agreement between people for some mutual, like, benefit.
01:01:49.000Agreement being the key word here, not force.
01:01:52.000So if you have an irrational road owner who decides to screw people or trying to own the whole system in some way, then they're probably gonna get destroyed by competitors.
01:02:07.000YouTube, they're constantly worrying about their PR.
01:02:09.000They don't want to look like a frivolous, reckless website, which is why you're able to appeal strikes, which is why there are competitors as well.
01:02:18.000I mean, it's not... Listen, you know, I'm not exactly... Me and YouTube have not always seen eye-to-eye, famously, but...
01:02:26.000It's not as bad as people make it seem.
01:02:28.000And also, again, we don't live in a completely free society.
01:02:31.000Imagine if we had a lot more capital pouring into Silicon Valley.
01:02:34.000Imagine if society was full of people that admired these people rather than vilifying them.
01:02:39.000So the issue with YouTube is that they've subsid... Google is such a massive company, they've subsidized YouTube.
01:02:46.000They lose money like crazy on YouTube.
01:02:48.000But because of the way they've created the system, no one can get a leg up.
01:02:53.000Other companies have tried and they can't reach that point.
01:02:55.000By the way, I'm not opposed to the idea that the government is subsidizing Google, if it turns out to be true, but is it true, or is it just that, like everyone else, they live in the subsidy state where they get free stuff?
01:03:06.000Google controls a good portion of online advertising, over 50%, I believe.
01:03:10.000That's not a favor from government, though, is it?
01:03:25.000So Google basically took the internet to the next level and now they're being called a monopoly.
01:03:29.000And so advertising from newspapers and digital is collapsing while skyrocketing and Google is buying up and controlling almost all of it.
01:03:36.000They then use that ability to make it so that YouTube can pay people out more than anyone else can, making sure that all of the top creators stay on YouTube and YouTube maintains a majority control over the digital space, which maintains their ability to control advertising, which makes it a lot easier for people to buy an ad campaign which can go on YouTube and network websites.
01:03:57.000If YouTube lost its view share on the internet and it split up to other platforms, then a lot of people would diversify their advertising, their ad buys.
01:04:06.000But now it's just like Google and Facebook.
01:04:17.000Look, I'm opposed to all subsidies, I'm opposed to all regulations, I want crimes punished, and I want disputes arbitrated, but I don't want Google being given any favors, and I don't want them punished for being too successful.
01:04:28.000So here's the challenge I see with the staunchly... I don't think you call it yourself libertarian or anything like that.
01:04:35.000But the little L libertarianism, you know, going way down into the staunchly freedom-oriented I don't want to say libertarian necessarily because people associate with the political party.
01:04:45.000The issue is that authoritarians will build massive infrastructure.
01:04:50.000They will use, you know, for instance, subsidizing YouTube through Google, the parent company, or Alphabet, gives a bunch of its money from its other networks to YouTube to keep it afloat, even though YouTube doesn't generate enough money because bandwidth is very expensive.
01:05:06.000This dominates the space, then they use that for cultural enforcement.
01:05:09.000Certain ideas are allowed, and certain ideas are not allowed.
01:05:12.000Your ideas are being purged right now as we speak, and you're okay with it.
01:05:17.000Look, I mean, even in the highly regulated state that we live in, and even with all of these very big, powerful news companies, look how successful you've been.
01:05:26.000I mean, we don't live in a world where, like, power-lusting people are able to just suppress everyone easily.
01:05:31.000It's just not the case, especially in a- To varying degrees.
01:05:35.000Well, to varying degrees, I understand, but, like, the best situation for you as an individual, if you want to live a good life, if you want to look at the world and ask, what do I want, and then go out and get it, You want liberty.
01:06:46.000I did cover this on my other channel a couple days ago, but it seems we have some developments.
01:06:50.000Teen Vogue advertisers pull out over editors' controversial past tweets.
01:06:55.000Major advertiser suspends campaign on the same day incoming editor apologizes for perpetuating stereotypes of Asian and LGBTQ people in a series of tweets from 2011.
01:07:39.000She was violating journalistic ethics, sleeping with the guy from the Biden administration, claiming she wasn't writing for him and apparently she was still writing for him, or at least in some way facilitating these stories.
01:08:00.000Well, then around 20 or so employees wrote this letter saying she is an offensive, racist, bigot, and all that stuff, and this was a terrible choice, and she shouldn't be hired.
01:08:09.000And I'm sitting here thinking, like, dude, come on.
01:08:11.000Ten-year-old posts you're not gonna hire?
01:08:20.000The company is now losing a seven-figure advertiser because the employees complained about the hire.
01:08:26.000So the employees effectively got their own company cancelled.
01:08:29.000I think it's the fault of the people who run the company, because they hire these rage-bait writers.
01:08:34.000Who purposefully inflame racial tensions and, you know, gender tensions and all these things to make money.
01:08:40.000They use these people to write anger rage bait so that they get clicks and can make money from it.
01:08:45.000And eventually you hire so many, it reaches critical mass and then they start complaining about your own company and you lose your seven figure advertiser.
01:08:52.000So this is more in like the area of cultural enforcement and the backfiring.
01:10:00.000I mean, you know, again, these people all went to school, or they were influenced by artists who went to school, or they were influenced by parents who went to school.
01:10:08.000Like, these people all were taught, yeah, critical race theory, postmodernism.
01:10:44.000Where do you think this cultural enforcement ends up going?
01:10:46.000Like the wokeness, the cancel culture?
01:10:48.000I mean, uh, maybe at a sort of, uh, surface level, we'll see sort of a pendulum swing, you know?
01:10:54.000Kind of like, there was, like, kind of, in the 90s, you had a lot of, like you said, George Carlin, like, a lot of, like, offensive entertainment.
01:11:01.000Obviously, that's where I was influenced growing up.
01:11:05.000Punk rock, rap, and being, being a badass was cool.
01:11:09.000Like, that was, or it was a thing to be.
01:11:12.000Not everyone liked it, but it was... It's like, you don't want to be the parents from Footloose.
01:11:16.000You wanted to be the, you know, screw you, I'm gonna go dance, you know, you can't tell me what to do.
01:11:20.000I mean, there were conservatives back then, and they were not into that stuff, and there were liberals, you know, there were leftists who said, no, they were pushing for political correctness back then, but there was a big element of the, a part of the culture that was saying, ah, this is all crap.
01:11:33.000And I think we're gonna see more of that.
01:11:35.000I think, you know, I live in Hollywood.
01:11:37.000There are a lot of people, they never signed up for any of this.
01:11:40.000You know, this whole, like, you know, call me bi, don't misgender me, right?
01:11:44.000A lot of powerful, rich people in Hollywood, they never signed up for this, to have somebody half their age telling them, don't misgender me.
01:11:54.000I mean, you could be, imagine you're a 50-year-old dude, an executive in Hollywood, and you're worth millions of dollars, and you got to this point where you worked really hard, you're making movies, you're doing great, you got an infinity pool, and then all of a sudden, some 19-year-old, who doesn't even have a job, is still in college, Costs you 30 million dollars because you're about to do this big movie production and you accidentally, you know, they found a tweet from you from 10 years ago.
01:19:30.000lost to China too focused on woke competition and lizard people.
01:19:35.000I've talked quite a bit about the Bill Maher stuff.
01:19:37.000Basically, he's saying, you know, Dr. Seuss had this book removed because of this depiction of a Chinese man eating with chopsticks, and he says, you know who doesn't care about this?
01:19:57.000So I always have this question for a lot of the more Liberty or I don't the right word is but Capitalistic individuals and less government.
01:20:07.000How do you provide for the common defense?
01:20:08.000And I'm not I'm not saying you don't I'm asking you quite literally like I mean, I don't I think you're right I don't the the common man doesn't need defense.
01:20:15.000The common man needs Liberty and Bill Maher.
01:20:17.000He was a leftist then. He was a leftist when everyone disagreed with him and
01:20:20.000he's a leftist when some people now agree with him. He does not believe in
01:20:24.000capitalism. He's always mocked the idea of capitalism working. Back when
01:20:28.000people on the right pretended to be for capitalism, Bill Maher was public enemy
01:20:32.000number one because he said things that, you know, a child thinks about capitalism
01:20:36.000and here he is saying the same thing he's always said that capitalism screws the
01:20:40.000little guy and you know the difference is now Republicans and people on the
01:23:07.000Lil Jon and Sugar Ray, Mark McGrath, Sugar Ray, we're gonna have a- I never tried doing a Trump impression before, by the way, so I know it's coming off a little bit cringey, as the kids would put it.
01:23:18.000But I mean, he would have a concert, you know, where Mark McGrath plays it.
01:23:49.000I think maybe conservatives who are like, you know... I think you're wrong, but even if 10%, even in today's world, in today's largely regulated world, America, which is a fraction of the level of prosperity it could be, you would have, even if today's top 10%, who I keep hearing about, today's 10% have all the money, 1% have all the money, that 1% could fund the military, right?
01:24:13.000They could, and if the alternative is having a weak country that gets invaded by all types of crazy Asians, then obviously they would do it.
01:24:20.000But I mean, again, remember, we live in the age of pragmatism, where most people are not thinking that long-term.
01:24:26.000To them, everything's short-term, and how do I feel right now?
01:24:29.000So we need people that treat their life the way they treat their business.
01:24:32.000They're looking at the next 10 years, they're looking at the next 50 years.
01:25:35.000It's not, oh, I'm just gonna sacrifice this thyme and this seed and plant it even though I'll get nothing out of it.
01:25:41.000That's just such an ugly thing to strive for.
01:25:44.000It's selfish, but in a rational way, in a beautiful way.
01:25:47.000I'm not one who would favor a command economy, quite the opposite.
01:25:51.000But I also think not literally the opposite end of the spectrum, which would be an unplanned competitive market where you don't know if you're going to have the budget you need to defend yourself from an attack from an adversary like China.
01:26:03.000I think there's got to be some planning.
01:26:04.000And if there's some planning, we have to have some budgeting.
01:26:47.000Well, not today's military with all their BS, but in a rational society, if you knew the military's job was explicit and clear and limited, and I was in charge of it, you trust, you know, I'm a good general, right?
01:26:57.000You know, you've seen me talk about the rights of the individual and the American philosophy of its founding and all these things and you
01:27:05.000know that the president agrees with that too and and I'm his general and we're
01:27:09.000going out to deal with Chinese forces that are violating the rights of Americans
01:27:14.000you would have some money to volunteer. I think you've made a really good point.
01:27:19.000If people were not willing to fund the military then we do have a problem.
01:27:24.000And the only reason we're able to engage in a lot of trash wars that seem to fail in the Middle East is because people are forced to fund the military.
01:27:31.000And so I wonder if that, regardless of whether or not you're forced to pay for it or you wouldn't choose to pay for it, shows a larger problem breaking, a larger break in this country in general.
01:27:41.000Not only that people are forced to To pay taxes, but also, again, people, they don't hold dear the rights of the individual.
01:27:49.000They don't see their own life as their standard of value.
01:27:52.000They don't see their own life as something to die protecting.
01:28:04.000So how do you feel about the Second Amendment?
01:28:06.000I think I'm for it, but it's not, this is gonna, okay, now if anyone doesn't hate me yet, I'm gonna piss them off and say, in my opinion, in my, not everyone agrees with me, in my opinion, the right to bear arms is not as fundamental as the right to property and the right to speech.
01:28:21.000What I mean is, your property as a billionaire, your right as a billionaire to own your big, crappy Silicon Valley company, is more sink or sank to me than the right to own a gun.
01:28:54.000And if you say yes, and from my cold, dead hands, take this property, then we can talk about, okay, well, is individual civilians owning guns A meaningful, effective way to protect property rights?
01:29:14.000If you have no right to property, how would you- Well, but it's- But it is conceivable, and you're gonna hate me for this, but it is conceivable that weapons- Some weapons are not a right to own, because they cause more destruction than- And some companies cause massive destruction, like the Cuyahoga River, which was mass polluted and then burst into flames.
01:29:30.000So I think you'd agree that we could regulate these companies?
01:29:32.000Well, if the rivers were privately owned, then the owner of that river would be able to file a lawsuit and retire very young.
01:29:38.000And if the roads were privately owned, I could carry a weapon on my own private property?
01:29:42.000Depending, again, on how the legal philosophers determine what it is that the individual needs in order to live a rational life in a free society.
01:29:54.000What if people are speeding down my road dangerously and they're violating my rights?
01:29:58.000Should I take a gun and try and stop them?
01:30:00.000I think you set the speed limit, but look, this is very advanced legal philosophy.
01:30:04.000So I'm, look, you know, you're saying that a gun isn't the same level of, there may be some guns you should not have for a variety of reasons because they can cause more damage.
01:30:14.000I think massive companies cause massive damage.
01:30:17.000Listen, those are two very different types of questions.
01:30:21.000Should an individual be able to own an Uzi?
01:30:23.000Like the Bhopal disaster that, you know, kills hundreds of thousands of people versus someone with a gun who might kill dozens?
01:30:28.000Listen, the right to kill somebody is not yours, unless it's self-defense, right?
01:30:34.000But polluting someone else's property is always wrong, no matter what.
01:30:38.000There's no such thing as polluting someone else's river in self-defense.
01:30:41.000I'm trying to find that distinction between some guns can be very dangerous, so you can't have them, versus some companies can be very dangerous, but you can still have them.
01:30:50.000So, like, if you have, say, a semi-auto .50 BMG, anti-material rifle, you're not intending to use it.
01:30:58.000You shouldn't be to harm another person who is innocent.
01:31:01.000You're using it to protect yourself, your property, from, you know, helicopters and tanks that might violate your property.
01:31:07.000For the most part, we agree in the United States, you can defend yourself from lethal harm, reasonable fear, if, like, you know, if somebody is threatening you, you have a way to defend yourself.
01:31:16.000And it's typically if you think they're going to kill you, right?
01:31:20.000So, it is wrong to take a gun and use it for the purpose of intentionally inflicting death upon someone who is not threatening you in any way or, you know, coming at you, right?
01:31:33.000Well, the intended purpose of, say, a chemical processing plant is to provide petrochemicals to individuals like cleaning solutions and fuels.
01:31:40.000It is not the intended purpose to blow up and poison hundreds of thousands of people.
01:31:44.000But it can, as a 50 BMG semi-auto can be used to kill innocent people.
01:31:48.000So which one do we regulate or do we regulate none of them?
01:31:52.000Well, regulation is different than making things illegal that are too dangerous.
01:31:58.000So I don't know exactly what should be legal when it comes to what's too dangerous for people to have.
01:32:04.000Obviously, a private company cannot build their own atom bomb and then hold it over a neighboring city and say, well, it's my property.
01:32:11.000No, I mean, you need to look at what is the type of society where an individual, again, can look at the world, Choose his rational values and pursue them without anyone else impeding on them.
01:32:21.000And I don't think there's any... I think you need guns.
01:32:26.000But my point is, and I didn't need to pick this battle, pardon the pun, because I could have just said, yeah, you have the right to bear arms, and everyone in the chat room would stop hating me, and I would get to throw some red meat to all of the Second Amendment people.
01:32:40.000But I just want to be philosophical about this and say the right to bear arms is derivative.
01:33:16.000If you're somebody who works, you know, breaks your back every day, you know, farming and raising chickens or whatever, there are bad people who will steal.
01:33:31.000The right to bear arms can protect you from those animals who would strip away what you've produced, but also criminal individuals who would as well.
01:33:37.000So we can even remove the bad thieves from the equation and say, all right, what about a fox and a coyote come on your property?
01:33:44.000Can you protect yourself and your chickens from that coyote?
01:33:46.000Well, you'll need a gun or at least some kind of weapon.
01:33:49.000And I don't think you're going to be going up against coyotes with a machete.
01:33:51.000I think you'd be hard pressed to find a free market person who is opposed to, you know, Either bearing arms or certainly companies protecting
01:34:35.000And then I think, just to kind of cap off this conversation, when it comes to corporation versus corporation or individual, just legal lawsuits, civil courts and stuff is, I think, reasonable.
01:34:46.000If, like, a corporation was, say, polluting a river and that was affecting a farmer who was, like, a small farmer, he would file a lawsuit.
01:34:53.000Yeah, but the river, by the way, would not be publicly owned.
01:34:56.000The river owner would be able to sue much quicker than the farmer.
01:35:00.000How does one person own an entire river?
01:35:01.000Would it be a corporation that owns it?
01:35:59.000We are surrounded by the fruits of corporate efforts.
01:36:02.000Honestly, this is gonna piss off the last person watching this that does not hate me.
01:36:06.000I liked, because I think I know what he meant, I liked when Mitt Romney in 2012 said, corporations are people.
01:36:13.000Because I think I know what he meant to say is that we're talking about corporations as though they're floating, some floating aliens that have nothing to do with the American No, corporations are people, my friend.
01:36:23.000The creators, the workers, the owners, and the shareholders, and the customers are all people.
01:36:46.000I think the whole thing was a semantic argument, to be fair.
01:36:49.000But let's read some superchats, my friends.
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01:37:00.000But this was actually fairly interesting.
01:37:01.000I mean, I think there was a good discussion, Rukka, because, you know, we've not had that kind of discussion or debate before on this show.
01:37:09.000We've had leftists on the show who have given us very obvious leftist opinions, and we've argued quite a bit.
01:37:14.000And this was interesting because it was kind of in the other direction.
01:37:16.000You know what's interesting to me is I started talking about any of this stuff.
01:37:20.000I was, you know, I was just an average dude, uh, neckbeard sitting in my bedroom, uh.
01:37:25.000Like, you know, the story of Sargon as illustrated in this beautiful, uh, number.
01:37:32.000He was minding his own business when he saw something happening he wanted to speak out about.
01:37:35.000So as much as I hate what he believes today, kind of where he ended up, I have to tell you it's an inspiring story of a totally worthless stoner lowlife saying, no, I have something to say.
01:37:48.000You read Atlas Shrugged and it changed your life?
01:37:51.000Oh yeah, The Fountainhead really changed my life when I first read that.
01:37:54.000And then Atlas Shrugged, it's like that on steroids.
01:38:13.000And I said, guys, I get what you're upset about, and I think you're right, but where is this going?
01:38:18.000What's your positive that you're moving towards?
01:38:20.000And if you're just moving recklessly away from the left, it's not going to go anywhere positive.
01:38:26.000And what we've seen is a lot of people basically kind of shrug, pardon the pun, and turn back to the left, a lot of those guys.
01:38:32.000A lot of them have turned to this sort of stringent nationalism that, again, has nothing to do with principles, nothing to do with individual rights being inalienable.
01:38:41.000And, uh, a lot of people call themselves centrists.
01:38:44.000They're sort of still trying to figure it out, and they're not gonna, you know, they have nothing positive that they're really fighting for, and it's not gonna tame the forces of madness on the left and right.
01:38:55.000So, my friends, you know, think about what you truly believe, and, uh, you know, and be like this guy.
01:41:29.000There was a guy who's like, he's going viral because he made some ridiculous claim about interracial couples being assigned that the guy is racist.
01:41:37.000And it's like the weirdest argument ever.
01:41:39.000I genuinely think these people are white supremacists.
01:41:41.000I think they're just lying and using the left to try and manipulate into gaining power.
01:43:12.000The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Paikhoff. He'll know what I'm talking. I like this guy. Yeah, what's that about?
01:43:17.000So The Ominous Parallels is a book that I actually gave Sargon back in the summer of 2017 when I met him and I hustled to
01:43:25.000me and my boy Kirk hustled to get that book to him and And he ended up reading it, and he read an excerpt of it on his channel, and he got attacked by a bunch of people who really, really don't like the Jewish people.
01:43:39.000They were saying, how can you trust this book?
01:45:05.000I've heard a theory that the church made up the years between 600 AD and 1100 or something, and made up this guy Charlemagne to kind of empower the idea of the church.
01:45:21.000And since they had all the data, they just rewrote it and said, this is what it was.
01:46:04.000Looking and then observing and acting on that, or getting principles from what you observe.
01:46:09.000Not just dealing with ideas detached from reality.
01:46:13.000So, in the Dark Ages, you still had Aristotle's logic.
01:46:15.000You had intellectuals having logical arguments and all types of, you know, rationalistic discussions about what is God and what does God want and all of that.
01:46:26.000But it was the rediscovery of Aristotle's induction, I think, by Thomas Aquinas And I think it was the Arabs.
01:47:36.000And I'm like, well, look, sometimes if you want to be in this kind of business, People are mean to me all the time.
01:47:43.000I mean, what's frustrating to me is not that all these people hate me, but it's like, what if nobody is kind of hearing my message?
01:47:50.000But I know that's not true, and I know at least one person is gonna contact me, or at least in their mind think that what I said helped them rethink about things a certain way.
01:48:00.000So if just one person's life can be affected positively, then why is it not worth my time to come on here and, you know, give my opinion?
01:48:09.000And I think it's, like, if you don't listen to opinions you don't agree with or you think are wrong, like, how will you sharpen your mind and confront these ideas when you encounter them in the real world?
01:48:18.000Yeah, Tammy Davis says dude wants to fight a conservative invite Stephen Crowder or the Hodge twins, but he will calm
01:48:25.000his ass down He has no clue what a Trump supporter believes
01:48:27.000I mean again people think I'm criticizing all Trump supporters. I'm saying here's what in my opinion Trump
01:48:34.000symbolizes He is the pragmatist president
01:48:36.000He is the American president that wants nothing to do with philosophy nothing to do with principles
01:48:42.000a lot of his policies are probably excellent, but Policy does not matter as a certain formerly gay
01:48:49.000British chap used to say Policy does not matter.
01:48:53.000And I think although I disagree with everything that that gentleman used to say, he was right on that point.
01:49:47.000Look, you criticized Trump and this, like, a lot of people then were like, I'm gonna put in my superchats and I'm gonna, you know, fight back.
01:50:02.000Let's all thank China for our prosperity.
01:50:03.000Okay, Joe jr As much as like I disagree with you on the China stuff.
01:50:08.000They didn't think you're like a you're like the opposite of a Democrat Yeah, they didn't hear anything.
01:50:12.000I said, I mean there are some democratic points that I agree with I agree with them I I think on abortion maybe not for the same reasons as they're maybe pro abortion.
01:50:20.000I agree with them on I Let's say at a time when gay marriage was illegal, I agreed with them that it should be legalized.
01:50:26.000But I mean, this person did not listen to anything I said.
01:51:28.000We've talked about this on the show before.
01:51:30.000Think about being in London, and then being like, I'm gonna get on a boat for three months, I might die, and then I'm gonna land on a shore where there's literally nothing, and that's my plan for life.
01:51:58.000Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I get, but like, at a certain point, there's like, you know, you mentioned this earlier about people should do their own thing, and I'm like, I agree.
01:52:06.000If maybe you're not having work, start making things.
01:52:09.000you know, I don't know. And advocate for liberating the economy, privatize things.
01:52:14.000Do you know that in financial institutions, the big ones, there are regulators with offices in
01:52:18.000the banks? Like, this is it. The government and the banks are basically the same person.
01:52:24.000We need to separate the two. I mean, the finance and fossil fuels, by the way,
01:52:30.000are the lifeblood of all human life. And the reason we hate them so much is because we hate
01:52:54.000We have a lot of guests on the show where it's like basically we just agree on everything and then everyone in the super chat's like, I also agree.
01:53:02.000And you know, if we had a good conversation and we got some super chats for you, then that's all I care about.
01:53:08.000Well, I mean, I think if people disagree with what you say, then... Like, one person said, you know, never have this guy on the show again, and I'm like, no, that's more reason to actually have him on the show.
01:55:23.000Come on, you really want to have that same, literal same argument, discussion?
01:55:27.000I just think you have this idea that everyone's going to agree and be happy and it's very utopian.
01:55:31.000Listen, if I could get you to consider one thing, it's that the work that intellectuals do in their ivory towers is where most people get their Their philosophy from so the fact that most people that that critical race theory is rampant right now comes from the universities.
01:55:49.000Obviously, we know that The fact that the alternative to critical race theory being posed is pragmatism again comes from the universities So the universities is where individualism I would like objectivism the philosophy of Ayn Rand to be offered to be To spread, and you will see rational people that understand we're not all subjectively, you know, grappling with aimlessness, with aimless goals.
01:56:15.000We are living in reality and reality is our frame of reference.
01:56:18.000Why have you and I not come, other than me, you know, crapping on you verbally?
01:56:24.000Why have we not started to, why have I not taken away your stuff and started to punch you and violate you sexually?
01:56:57.000And you don't think there are people who just don't care about your rights?
01:57:00.000Most people not only don't care but are happy to violate them.
01:57:05.000Because I mean this is what we're arguing about in a sense.
01:57:07.000Even some of the good guys like you are not willing to go all the way with rights because at the end of the day it is a question of what is human nature.
01:57:14.000And if we don't agree that human nature is to In order to survive, you must look at reality and live by the data and think independently and think long term, make plans.
01:57:24.000None of this is trained and conditioned.
01:57:26.000You need to independently solve the problems.
01:57:29.000You guys were dragging the TV over because I ruined the camera earlier with my Zoom call.
01:57:33.000I mean, you've got to look at reality and you've got to make plans and you've got to act on it.
01:57:37.000Nobody's conditioned to live according to the facts of reality.
01:57:41.000You were taught philosophical principles, but you're not... nobody can... I mean, brainwashing exists, but most of us are not brainwashed the way I did.
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01:58:00.000Prepare for the worst, work for the best.
01:58:06.000Like, uh, remember we were talking about... I don't know if we were talking about this, but, like, I was gonna tell you, like, it seems like you think that when someone made money that they're suspect, you know?
01:58:22.000Or, like, you thought that, like, some people who went from, like, left to right did it because they were afraid of consequences.
01:58:27.000Oh, that's about, like, social enforcement.
01:58:31.000Yeah, like there's... You don't think, like, people can just, like, like, evolve or change philosophically and, like, change what they believe?
01:58:40.000Well, so, I mean, look at how much money you're getting in Super Chats.
01:58:43.000Does that mean I should be suspicious of you because you can only be motivated by money?
01:58:47.000No, because the people who super-chatted smack-talking you, I just told them I thought they were wrong, and one person said, he actually gave me money to say, I shouldn't have you on the show again, and I actually said the opposite, and no, that's more reason to actually have you back.
01:58:58.000But how about when someone writes a letter disavowing one of their friends because they were accused of being a racist?
01:59:04.000I mean, like, that's a pretty bold thing to do.
01:59:07.000What about someone just all of a sudden, like, disappearing for a while and then coming back totally flip, saying, I'm no longer that politics, you know, I'm different now?
01:59:14.000If you agree with me that at least one person, at least Tim Poole, is making decisions based not on raw, vulgar material concerns, but based on principles, then I'm happy, because that means you admit that principles are what drive at least one person.
01:59:28.000There are some people that had, like, very strange moments where, like, a wave of censorship occurred, and then all of a sudden someone was like, oh, I just realized I'm actually not a conservative, and it's like, oh, wow, that's weird timing.
01:59:42.000And I think it's interesting too, like, the grift doesn't flow, it doesn't make sense that the grift flows to the right, because the right is the dangerous position, and the right has a lower market cap, it's harder to monetize.
01:59:54.000The left is where the corporations are, where the big money is, where the Grammys are, and where you're safe from censorship.
01:59:59.000I don't think anyone is really grifting.
02:00:03.000But I think most people are making these types of decisions based on their judgment.
02:00:08.000And I often disagree with their judgment.
02:00:10.000But, you know, in some cases they're making money, in other cases they're losing money as a result of this decision.
02:00:15.000There are some channels that have, like, done extremely well, and I'm not looking to name them for specific reasons, but, like, you can compare their stuff after certain key moments in the culture war, and it's fairly obvious what they're doing.
02:00:33.000Like, again, I'm not only talking about leftists.
02:00:36.000I'm not only talking about conservatives.
02:00:37.000I'm not only talking about libertarians or only anti-SJW people or formerly anti-SJW people.
02:00:41.000I'm talking about literally everybody.
02:00:43.000And I'm going to avoid saying their names, but it includes the left.
02:02:07.000And there are some people who like stuck their neck out and then quickly recoiled when they realized just how dangerous it was to do that.
02:02:14.000But if people aren't willing to step up and stand on the front lines during a fight, then you don't win that fight.
02:02:18.000I agree that people do that, but I also think a lot of people sort of changed maybe their sort of affiliation.
02:02:26.000Let's say they used to be on the left, and then they thought, well, maybe the right has what I'm looking for, and then they said, okay, no, actually, I'm not at all on board with this, and they became sort of back to be left-leaning, and maybe this time around, they're not so concerned about social justice warriors.
02:02:42.000They think that's an overhyped problem, let's say, or maybe this time around, they support BLM in a way that they didn't a few years ago, but I do see this as a evolution or the in some cases the opposite of evolution a regression a regressive leftist direction as a result of their philosophical conviction of like where their judgment led them so as much as I Often disagree with people.
02:03:07.000I I do see it ultimately is that you know that I don't... I think most people I agree with you, but I'm specifically referring to... Certain people you think just, like, they still sort of believe what they believe, but they don't have the courage that they used to have.
02:04:05.000Do maybe people like you, instead of watching the content or trying to understand what's going on, just say,
02:04:11.000how come two years ago he said Trump is bad and now he's saying Trump is good?
02:04:13.000Could it be, I don't know, maybe Trump fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria,
02:04:17.000and I said, wow, this guy's a moron, he hired John Bolton, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
02:04:21.000And then in the last few months of his administration, he had the Abraham Accords
02:04:25.000bringing about four historic peace agreements, notably with Israel.
02:04:27.000And I was like, wow, that's really good.
02:04:28.000And then he was instructing the Pentagon to remove our troops from Afghanistan, and they obstructed him.
02:04:34.000And then one federal official lied to the American people about the amount of people in Syria to stop Trump from pulling them out.
02:04:40.000Could it be that I said, we have Joe Biden, who is the VP overseeing Iraq, a warmonger monster, Who exploited his position in government to make millions of dollars and Trump, the boisterous, lewd, and lascivious, let's just call him chaotic individual, who I've been very critical for a lot of reasons.
02:05:07.000But then all of a sudden, I'm looking at school choice.
02:05:10.000I'm looking at the banning of critical race theory at the federal government level.
02:05:13.000I'm looking at What are the other things?
02:05:16.000Abraham Accords, most notably, and a booming economy in 2019, and I said, for what I believe is right, the biggest issues that I think affect me, one, war.
02:05:24.000Trying to get out of Afghanistan is worthy of my compliments.
02:05:48.000And that's the kind of effort you have to make, even with bad people, that even Obama tried making, and I will give him credit for that.
02:05:53.000And right now, I've praised Joe Biden for moving up the vaccine timeline.
02:05:56.000You see, the people who actually watch this show probably realize there's a nuanced opinion in these things, and there are probably some really good reasons to support Donald Trump over Joe Biden.
02:06:04.000But what ends up happening is, the people I'm critical of, who don't pay attention, and only hold opinions for the sake of making money, the real grifters, all of a sudden find themselves on the side of the woke cult-like leftists they opposed for years, right around the time that YouTube changed its algorithm and started banning these people, all of a sudden they disappeared and come back with an awakening!
02:06:26.000Now I realized what was actually right the whole time!
02:06:28.000Or if they didn't go that overt, like writing a letter disavowing their own friends, because they were scared about being called racists, They decided that, well, I'm going to simmer things down, reduce the amount of content I'm doing, and probably just stop talking about it.
02:06:42.000You want to engage in a fight because you claim to believe in things, but then abandon it the moment things get hot?
02:06:50.000So perhaps, whatever Sargon's opinions are, he actually had an evolution on certain issues.
02:06:55.000Maybe he realized, you know what, I was wrong about that two years ago.
02:06:57.000For me, I don't think I was wrong two years ago when I said Trump was wrong to fire Tomok missiles into Syria, and I don't think I'm wrong now to say Joe Biden was wrong to do the same thing.
02:07:04.000Both did not have congressional approval for that, but guess what?
02:07:07.000The mainstream media praised both when they do it.
02:07:10.000Granted, Joe Biden got a little bit of flack for this from some personalities because it seems like the establishment is weakening as the DSA types and more progressives start moving in.
02:07:18.000But Donald Trump all of a sudden was being called presidential because he was blowing up, he was bombing an airbase with missiles.
02:07:24.000There are many people who don't seem to have any reasonable reason for transitioning their opinions from where they used to stand to where they are now.
02:07:32.000And my opinion seemed to be relatively static, save the Second Amendment.
02:07:36.000When the riots happened, when COVID happened, And when someone tried breaking into my house, I went and bought guns, learned about them, and now my opinions very much change in the Second Amendment.
02:07:43.000Other than that, it's almost entirely the same as it was years ago, even when I made a video while I still worked for Disney criticizing black-segregated college ceremonies, or black-segregated protest rooms during Black Lives Matter when I worked for Vice.
02:07:57.000All of those opinions are exactly the same as they've been, and perhaps I probably should evolve a bit more on some of those positions, but I haven't.
02:08:03.000Instead, we get a bunch of people who are scared.
02:08:06.000They're scared the machine is winning.
02:08:08.000They're scared the establishment is gaining ground.
02:08:10.000The Grammys is promoting Black Lives Matter and asking for accomplices.
02:08:13.000So instead of standing tall and saying, I will not move, you move, they say, oh, that was a mistake.
02:08:31.000And if you haven't already, make sure you smash that like button and we'll just read a couple more because I just did a big long rant, however long that was.
02:08:39.000Luminescent says, a country's policy should be flexible, not rigid.
02:08:44.000There are countries that don't like America that would camouflage.
02:08:47.000And to that regard, too, I seem to recall praising Bernie Sanders when he said open borders is a Koch brothers proposal and when he was actually in favor of building a border barrier.
02:09:17.000That's why I'm glad Rukka came on the show and we had these conversations because I don't want to just sit around with people who are saying, I agree.
02:09:26.000I was gonna just be like try to crack jokes the whole time and just have a wonderful time and like three minutes in we're arguing about the nature of man and free will.
02:12:56.000And he was like, it's very clear that you're trying to, you know, just you're, you're pro Republicans and these.
02:13:00.000And I was like, when have I praised the Republican party?
02:13:04.000Certainly, I said there's good things about them, for sure, so I'll take that, you know, absolutely.
02:13:08.000The critical race theory stuff, pushing back on that.
02:13:10.000But I'm pretty sure, I think, I've always said I don't like Mitch McConnell.
02:13:14.000He doesn't do anything Republicans obstruct, and they're part of the Uniparty.
02:13:18.000But how would you respond to people that are saying you're sort of grifting in the sense that you're getting so much money and prominence and you're sort of rising up to be a force to be reckoned with on the right?
02:13:27.000Doesn't that make you kind of suspect?
02:13:31.000Well, I think if you go to the actual forums where the hardcore conservatives are, they actually don't like me all that much.
02:13:40.000And I think it's funny, like when I went on Steven Crowder, it was really, it was really funny.
02:13:43.000The last time I went on, he was like, you know him, you love him or you hate him.
02:13:59.000This audience that listens, I think the one thing that actually just defines them is discernment of media, right?
02:14:06.000A critical eye towards media is probably the principal factor.
02:14:10.000So if someone comes in and, or if like a news outlet says, Donald Trump did a backflip, the people who watch the show are the kind of people who looked for the video to see if he actually did a backflip.
02:14:21.000And they'll watch my content and they'll criticize me when I get things wrong and send me corrections, whereas people who watch mainstream corporate press are the people who just believe whatever it is they hear.
02:14:33.000Very critical of Democrats because they're the ones on the offense and Republicans don't do anything.
02:14:37.000So, if the Democrats are saying something like, we're going to push H.R.
02:14:41.0001 and rapidly transform voting in this country, and then I actually did a whole segment where I was like, I actually agree with a lot of this bill, well, the reason it's the focus on the Democrats and the Republicans is because the Republicans literally did nothing.
02:14:54.000Or a good example is when the Republicans pass these tax cuts, Donald Trump gets these tax cuts passed, and then progressives start saying there's a tax cut for the rich, which they still do, and then Matthew Iglesias from Vox.com comes out and says, it's like, what did he call it?
02:15:51.000Like, I'll be playing Tavern Brawl, right?
02:15:53.000And right now they're doing one where it's like, the deck is, uh, the current Tavern Brawl is, you choose a class, you get some base cards, and you get Hallucinations, which generate, you know, three random cards from your opponent's class.
02:16:05.000And then what happens when I'm playing, and every single time I use a Hallucination, it's a six or seven monocost card, and I can't even play anything, and then they're just dropping one, two, three drops, and they're just hitting me, ping, ping, ping, and then I can't even actually play the game.
02:16:16.000Well, when you build your deck, are you building around the- No, no, these are Tavern Brawl.
02:16:18.000Do you get meaning you get a you get a pre-built deck but random so there's a RNG in it
02:16:22.000So the current brawl is giving you random cards and I'm like, what's the point of playing the game?
02:16:25.000And you know what? I get it. It's RNG you play the game.
02:16:27.000That's what you get So I'll just concede like okay fine. I get it game over. Mm-hmm
02:16:31.000video games frustrate me Unfair randomness. Why did they frustrate you? So I I like
02:16:38.000games where you can understand the system figure it out and then
02:16:45.000Increase your ability like get better at the game and then do better
02:16:49.000When there are certain games that are just like designed to frustrate you by You know, like, a good example of this problem was why the U.S.
02:17:01.000They created something called, what was it called, like Doki Doki on the Panic or something?
02:17:05.000The original Mario 2 for NES had a bunch of tricks in it that were meant to punish the player for no reason.
02:17:11.000For instance, in the original Mario Bros., if you get a mushroom, you grow and it makes you strong.
02:17:15.000In the second one that was in Japan, you would hit a box or whatever, and like a brownish-green mushroom would come out of purple, and it would kill you if you got it.
02:17:24.000And the American companies, Nintendo of America said, but we just trained everybody how to play this game.
02:17:30.000Now you're punishing them needlessly so they're frustrated before they even play.
02:17:34.000The original Mario, the first world, shows you how the game works.
02:17:37.000Jump on the bad guy, hit the brick, get the mushroom, get the star, it's all there.
02:17:41.000Get the fire flower, the green mushroom gives you a life.
02:17:44.000The second version was just ridiculously hard, and constantly trying to trick you.
02:17:48.000Like, oh, you know that thing you normally get?
02:19:33.000It's one of the reasons I've started reducing the content on my other channels, because I actually am self-reflective and thought to myself, if I'm doing six segments a day, because honestly there's 50 things I could be watching, and as I often say, complaining about on the internet, It's probably not a good thing, and I should shift the focus in another direction, which is why I'm putting more effort in this, TimCastRL Podcast, TimCast.com, and it's why, honestly, this channel is doing better and growing, because it's where my energy is at.
02:19:56.000I want to make sure we're having more substantive conversations, expressing different ideas, arguing with people on certain things, and not just being a, here's the latest thing I'm mad about today.
02:20:05.000So, like, this episode was very much us having a discussion on government, politics, economics, philosophy, and less so us just screaming about, you know, What thing we particularly hate the most.
02:20:17.000Although we are critical of a lot of things.
02:20:25.000I'm afraid when I watch the way the Nazis blitzkrieg into France, I think that maybe China could do that to the United States and that Russia wouldn't do anything about it.
02:20:34.000And if Russia didn't do anything about it and India didn't, that would be probably China would take over the world.
02:21:40.000This is not all that there is, but I do want to make sure I'm doing right by the people who watch and like this content and, you know, really do think it's valuable.
02:21:51.000More importantly, I think, it can't just rely on me.
02:21:54.000So when I was doing six segments, six individual segments every single day, no days off, and then Monday through Friday this show, I was like, yeah, I'll probably die and then what's left of
02:22:04.000the company and the people who work here So we need to launch new shows new brands and that's what
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02:22:28.000All of this engagement and interaction, you're basically telling these companies, whether it's iTunes or whatever, like, hey, this is good stuff.
02:23:08.000Uh, and, uh, you know, because I've had some great discussions with Tim in the past, I've, I decided I'll come on here and, uh, have this conversation.
02:23:14.000So if you invite me somewhere and if I say no, it's nothing personal.
02:23:17.000I'm just, I got my priorities focused right now, but I do do a podcast by the way, a few mornings a week or five days a week.
02:23:59.000Yeah, we really got to start accepting each other for our differences as well as our strengths.
02:24:04.000But I do think, like, You know, if you may disagree with, like, Rucka, imagine all of these leftists who refuse to watch this show just because they disagree with me.
02:24:24.000And by listening to this show, maybe some people agree with you, and they've heard your argument with me, and they're like, that was a good point from Rucka, or maybe vice versa.
02:24:31.000Now, the next time you hear that, you're gonna be like, actually, I heard this good point from this dude, and it makes you stronger and smarter.
02:24:38.000That type of conviction and certainty needs to be recognized and applauded and that needs to be philosophically identified and we need to use that type of approach, looking at the facts and using logic.
02:24:50.000By the way, you can hate the Chinese But you gotta love their food.
02:24:54.000And thank you for all this hospitality.
02:24:55.000It's only the CCP I'm a little nervous about.