Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Half Chewed "SpeedBall" Drug Found With George Floyd's DNA On It w- Brandon Tatum

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:37.000 you the trial of Derek Chauvin in the death of George Floyd

00:01:00.000 continues and man I got to say after today and after the other day to me I think

00:01:06.000 intent is off the table I feel like if the jury sees what I see, and they probably don't, because, you know, who knows, I don't think I'm always right about everything, but I look at this and I'm just like, wow, was it bad for the prosecution.

00:01:17.000 I'll just give you a couple of the big points.

00:01:19.000 The defense apparently got Floyd's vehicle searched eight months later, found a speedball.

00:01:25.000 This is like the big story that's breaking right now.

00:01:25.000 With his DNA on it.

00:01:27.000 I mean, boom, right there you've got causation changes.

00:01:30.000 Who actually was responsible for the death of George Floyd?

00:01:32.000 Was it Maurice Lester Hall, his friend, who was dealing?

00:01:35.000 Or was it Derek Chauvin?

00:01:35.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:01:37.000 The state brought in a paid expert to testify, to say the things the state wants the jury to hear.

00:01:44.000 And in cross-examination, the defense said, based on active resistance, Derek Chauvin would have been in the right to immediately approach George Floyd and tase him.

00:01:56.000 Tasers, as you know, can be lethal, cause cardiac arrest.

00:01:59.000 The defense pointed out, however, Chauvin chose to use a lesser force option of restraint, and the state's witness agreed that Derek Chauvin used lesser force.

00:02:11.000 It's crazy, because he had previously testified that using the restraint was excessive force, and the defense effectively got him to say, well, couldn't he have used more?

00:02:17.000 Yes.

00:02:18.000 So it wasn't excessive, it was less?

00:02:19.000 Yes.

00:02:20.000 intent is off the table. If Chauvin had the opportunity to use more force and decided

00:02:20.000 What's up, man?

00:02:20.000 Boom.

00:02:24.000 not to do it and to use less, I don't see how you prove he was trying to hurt this guy.

00:02:29.000 So we're going to talk about all this. We've got a bunch of other stories too. We've got

00:02:31.000 stuff about Project Veritas and we've got gun control stuff.

00:02:34.000 We'll get into that. Joining us today is Brandon Tatum.

00:02:36.000 What's up? What's up man? Glad to be here.

00:02:39.000 Introduce yourself. What do you do? Who are you?

00:02:41.000 Oh, I'm Brandon Tatum.

00:02:42.000 Some of y'all may know me.

00:02:43.000 I'm online.

00:02:43.000 I'm a little YouTuber guy.

00:02:46.000 I speak around the country.

00:02:47.000 I'm a former police officer.

00:02:48.000 I was a police officer in Tucson for six and a half years.

00:02:52.000 That's about it, man.

00:02:54.000 But you're gonna, you're gonna be able to give us a view into being a cop.

00:02:57.000 You were a cop for what, like six?

00:02:58.000 You said six years?

00:02:59.000 I was an FTO, just like Chauvin.

00:02:59.000 Six and a half years, man.

00:03:03.000 I did a lot of stuff on the police department.

00:03:03.000 I was on the SWAT team.

00:03:05.000 I testified in court plenty of times.

00:03:07.000 So I think we could talk about some good stuff on It's going to be interesting.

00:03:11.000 Considering the questions being posed by the state prosecutor and the defense, I think you'll have probably a really great take on it.

00:03:16.000 So we'll jump into it.

00:03:17.000 Yeah, it's Ian Crossland over here.

00:03:17.000 We got Ian Eastwood.

00:03:19.000 Just found out all our dads were firemen.

00:03:22.000 Chief and a couple lieutenants.

00:03:24.000 That was pretty cool.

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 Me in the corner pushing buttons.

00:03:27.000 My father was not a fireman.

00:03:29.000 I feel very left out, but I'm here.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, only the firefighters here.

00:03:32.000 So, ladies and gentlemen, we want to jump into this news.

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00:04:22.000 But let's just get straight to the news, man.

00:04:24.000 No more waiting.

00:04:25.000 This is where it gets crazy.

00:04:27.000 The Daily Mail reports Derek Chauvin jury hears how his defense team found half-chewed speedball pill in patrol car with George Floyd's DNA on it eight months after cop searches.

00:04:38.000 So this is in the patrol car.

00:04:40.000 So we already had this.

00:04:41.000 I don't know if you saw this early on, Brandon.

00:04:43.000 The judge said that it looked like George Floyd ingested something.

00:04:47.000 He put something on his tongue.

00:04:48.000 A pill or whatever.

00:04:49.000 Now we got... All of this stuff is... Alright, I just gotta slow down.

00:04:53.000 It's crazy.

00:04:54.000 The defense has not even begun its case yet.

00:04:56.000 The defense has not even brought in its own witness, and already we're hearing that Derek Chauvin could have used more force, that even one of the witnesses agreed with the defense that Chauvin's knee was not on the neck, but in fact between the shoulder blades.

00:05:13.000 So this is all striking at intent.

00:05:15.000 Now the craziest thing about all this, with all this stuff going on, The media keeps telling you, because we talked about this last night, the media keeps telling you, oh, the cop said Chauvin bad.

00:05:22.000 The cop said Chauvin couldn't do this.

00:05:24.000 And they get all these people in the prosecution.

00:05:26.000 They get all these cops coming up and saying, like, Chauvin shouldn't have done that.

00:05:29.000 That was excessive force.

00:05:31.000 And then the media comes out and says, see, look, this is it.

00:05:34.000 They haven't proved that, they haven't proven that Chauvin was innocent.

00:05:37.000 Not realizing.

00:05:39.000 The most important thing.

00:05:41.000 The burden of proof is on the state.

00:05:43.000 The state can come out with all the cops in the world giving their opinion, but all the defense has to do is poke one hole in one argument, and that's it.

00:05:51.000 So now that we got the story dropping about a speedball, which is fentanyl and methamphetamine mixed together being found in the patrol car with Floyd's DNA on it, Causation goes out the window.

00:06:00.000 Now it's like, okay, what really caused the death of George Floyd?

00:06:03.000 Because we have the medical examiner statement, but what is the jury going to believe?

00:06:06.000 Is there going to be reasonable doubt?

00:06:08.000 So we get this tox report that shows he had fentanyl, norefentanyl, methamphetamine in his system.

00:06:12.000 And then the defense seems to be doing a pretty good job with the state.

00:06:15.000 So you combine that with the state's own witness saying that Chauvin could have used a taser if he wanted to, but chose to use a lesser amount of force.

00:06:25.000 I think intent is out the window.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, I think it's going really bad for the state.

00:06:31.000 I don't think that they're doing a really good job at proving their case.

00:06:34.000 The burden of proof is on them.

00:06:35.000 It's not the defense.

00:06:36.000 And people may think it's the defense, but it's not. 0.92

00:06:38.000 And just because a police officer does something that's stupid, or maybe that other police officers wouldn't do, don't make it criminal. 0.89

00:06:44.000 None of that matters. 0.98

00:06:45.000 What matters is the law.

00:06:46.000 What's on the books?

00:06:47.000 What are his charges?

00:06:49.000 And can the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that those charges are in effect?

00:06:55.000 I don't think that they will.

00:06:57.000 I think that Officer Chauvin did a bunch of stuff that I wouldn't do.

00:07:03.000 But I don't think that there's any malice, any depraved mind, which is in the statute, of him trying to kill George Floyd outright.

00:07:12.000 It's not there.

00:07:13.000 So that's murder two and three gone.

00:07:15.000 Yeah, murder two and three gone.

00:07:18.000 And the manslaughter charge is obviously with the intent or with negligence or knowing that you're doing something that could cause the death of a person.

00:07:28.000 So if he was kneeling on his neck, With the knowledge that his unreasonable action will cause the death of George Floyd, then that's where they can get him at.

00:07:39.000 They can't prove that, man.

00:07:41.000 I don't think that they can prove that.

00:07:42.000 I don't think they've done a good job at proving that because you can look at the video footage from today where they show the angle of his knee is facing towards the patrol vehicle which would not be at the proper angle to be Consistent with being across the neck of George Floyd.

00:07:57.000 It's showing that it's maybe a part of his neck and on his upper shoulder area, which is how the maneuver is trained.

00:08:05.000 I did the maneuver like that plenty of times.

00:08:07.000 Never put the knee on the neck, but you do put it on the upper back.

00:08:09.000 People think it's the neck.

00:08:11.000 Check it out.

00:08:13.000 This is what people don't understand.

00:08:15.000 Even if you're trained to put the knee on the back, in a heated situation, with someone actively resisting, using their feet to kick, people surrounding you screaming and threatening you, is it reasonable to say that someone might poorly execute the maneuver?

00:08:29.000 Well, I'll say this.

00:08:31.000 I don't think this is the situation where, unless you're a trashy cop, that any of what happens should cause you to poorly Produce any maneuver.

00:08:41.000 I mean, George Floyd was pretty much subdued.

00:08:44.000 He had two people on his back.

00:08:46.000 Chauvin had pretty good control over him on the upper part of his body.

00:08:49.000 He requested to be laid on the ground.

00:08:51.000 I don't think George Floyd wanted to fight.

00:08:53.000 He didn't want to go to jail.

00:08:54.000 He didn't want to get in the car.

00:08:55.000 He'll say whatever he needs to.

00:08:57.000 He was hoping that somehow He had a medical emergency where they'll take him to the hospital and probably not in the back of the patrol car.

00:09:03.000 That's why he was complaining and making all these claims.

00:09:06.000 Therefore they would, it would necessitate them to call the ambulance and not take him to jail.

00:09:10.000 And so I think that's what, that's what George Floyd was attempting to do.

00:09:14.000 However, I've been in situations that were way more intense than what Chauvin was going through.

00:09:20.000 Now, of course I wasn't on the scene, so I don't know what he was feeling.

00:09:22.000 I don't know the energy that was there.

00:09:24.000 I don't know the effect of the people that the people had on him, but, It wasn't that crazy.

00:09:29.000 I had people who were way crazier.

00:09:32.000 I had dudes who were way stronger.

00:09:34.000 Who were actively lifting police officers up.

00:09:38.000 While they were on his back.

00:09:39.000 He's on the ground lifting them off their feet because he was so high on drugs.

00:09:43.000 Now, that's a situation where your knee may slide from the shoulders to the neck.

00:09:49.000 And now you're in a position where you're probably fighting for your life because if he happens to get up, he's going to hurt you.

00:09:55.000 If you got three men can't hold him down, he's going to probably hurt you.

00:09:58.000 So, this is what I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to say in any way to defend Chauvin.

00:10:02.000 I'm just presenting a logical defense in terms of what the defense could be bringing up.

00:10:07.000 Chauvin could just be a really bad cop.

00:10:08.000 Like, he doesn't know what he's doing.

00:10:12.000 Some people are good at basketball, some people are not good at basketball, you know what I mean?

00:10:16.000 So Chauvin is in a situation where it's not that intense.

00:10:20.000 For manslaughter, like you said, it's gotta be negligence.

00:10:22.000 Like, you were doing something that could have reasonably caused harm, and then you killed somebody.

00:10:26.000 But if Chauvin is trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu or ground control techniques, and they're like, here's what you do, and then he goes, duh, like this, and does it wrong, How can you argue that he was even trying to cause harm in any capacity?

00:10:39.000 If he was trying to use a ground control maneuver that the cops are trained to do, and he's just not good at it, how do you get him on a crime?

00:10:46.000 Yes, I mean, you're 100% correct.

00:10:48.000 I mean, they cannot expect That everyone's training, and they brought it out, the defense brought this out, that everyone's training is not 100% consistent.

00:10:57.000 You have a little stick figure that's on a picture that shows a little bit about how you're supposed to do things.

00:11:02.000 I did training, I trained officers.

00:11:05.000 Some officers train things a little differently, even in the same police department.

00:11:08.000 They may be a little more aggressive and say, oh, it doesn't matter if the shin touches the base of the neck. 0.98

00:11:14.000 Some I'll say you better not touch his neck same department same training staff tells you a different story now

00:11:21.000 When you're in the heat of the moment, which the defense brought up you can improvise you

00:11:27.000 You may improvise.

00:11:28.000 You may make mistakes.

00:11:30.000 And the bottom line is that did the mistake that he made cause the death of George Floyd?

00:11:34.000 Because nobody cares if he made a mistake. 0.96

00:11:36.000 Nobody cares if he's a crappy police officer.

00:11:38.000 Nobody cares if he did the maneuver right or wrong. 0.90

00:11:40.000 It doesn't matter.

00:11:41.000 Because if he died from taking a bite out of a speedball, if he, you know, died from methamphetamine and fentanyl, he was actually dying from the moment he put it in his mouth and he was just a ticking time bomb.

00:11:51.000 Then none of what the prosecution is bringing forth is going to matter.

00:11:55.000 You saw what happened with Maurice Lester Hall, right?

00:11:58.000 Yes.

00:11:59.000 So he's the friend of George Floyd, who was supposed to testify for the state.

00:12:02.000 Plead the Fifth.

00:12:03.000 He pleads the Fifth, but more than that, his lawyer comes out and says he could incriminate himself in third-degree murder charges in the death of George Floyd, and it's like, what?!

00:12:11.000 I was surprised.

00:12:13.000 The jury wasn't in there for that, though.

00:12:14.000 Yeah, okay, that's why.

00:12:15.000 I was surprised she said that.

00:12:17.000 I was like, you're making the case for why he should probably be charged.

00:12:20.000 Right.

00:12:21.000 You're saying that he shouldn't say anything that incriminates himself, but you are articulating a defense or at least a... Incriminable?

00:12:30.000 Is that a word?

00:12:31.000 I made that up today.

00:12:33.000 Not incriminable.

00:12:34.000 I don't know what word to use.

00:12:36.000 An incriminating statement.

00:12:38.000 Y'all can use that now.

00:12:43.000 So an incriminating statement that could raise questions.

00:12:47.000 I don't understand why she would do that, but he was culpable in that situation.

00:12:52.000 And I want people to understand that as well, and that's what the defense is bringing out.

00:12:56.000 And the jury may not hear that statement, but they can see with their own eyes that it's a lot of people that were culpable here.

00:13:02.000 I mean, even the firefighters, and even the medical staff, and even the dispatcher.

00:13:07.000 All of that leading to a delay in the firefighters getting there, possibly delaying George Floyd getting medical treatment.

00:13:13.000 It's all, everybody, all these people are now slightly culpable.

00:13:17.000 So to put all of the blame on Chauvin, which is what they're trying to do, is not a really good strategy that's going to pass.

00:13:17.000 Yeah.

00:13:24.000 It just feels like they want to scapegoat.

00:13:27.000 They have to.

00:13:28.000 They made him the number one villain because he's the guy you can see with the neon George Floyd.

00:13:33.000 There are other cops there too.

00:13:35.000 And there were cops that were there before he got there.

00:13:37.000 And you know, when this all first went down, Everybody basically watched a video was like dude that's messed up like he should have done that But that's I guess we all fall for this sometimes because we don't know what was going on So the the defense pointed out that Chauvin received a priority one call, you know sirens lights rush to the scene We've got an active resistance from a guy who's six foot six 230 pounds And so this is where it gets crazy because then he asks this.

00:14:03.000 Okay, this is this is important the state literally paid this guy and How much did they pay him?

00:14:08.000 $10,000.

00:14:08.000 $10,000 to pay him right there and then they paid him another like $30-something hundred just to show up in court.

00:14:13.000 So to be a consultant or expert witness $10,000 and then they paid him to show up in court.

00:14:17.000 So this guy that was the state paid to come to tell the jury Chauvin did bad Basically says that Chauvin, as soon as he got that priority one call, and heard there was active resistance, Chauvin could have walked out of his car, drew his taser, and just fired at Floyd.

00:14:34.000 He could have if he wanted to.

00:14:35.000 And that would have been reasonable, in the expert's opinion?

00:14:37.000 That's insane, man!

00:14:39.000 The temperament, the defense was able to establish a well-mannered temperament, which kills the depraved mind articulation in, I think, the third-degree murder charge or whatever.

00:14:51.000 It kills that articulation because, people have to understand, level one calls are the highest priority call that you can get.

00:15:00.000 The highest.

00:15:01.000 That means an active shooter, that means somebody's killing somebody, there being a man with a gun, are all level one.

00:15:08.000 That's the highest priority call you can get.

00:15:09.000 And that's what he got.

00:15:10.000 And if he got a level one call, which I think came out in court, Yeah.

00:15:14.000 Your adrenaline, because you can't see the scene.

00:15:19.000 You only have a mental picture of what you produce based on your experiences.

00:15:23.000 So when you hear rookies on the radio saying, a guy's fighting and they're struggling,

00:15:28.000 you can hear it on the radio.

00:15:29.000 He's on drugs or whatever.

00:15:31.000 At Cup Foods.

00:15:32.000 It seems like Cup Foods is in the hood.

00:15:34.000 It seems like there's all kinds of stuff happening at Cup Foods.

00:15:36.000 But when you hear it over the radio, you can't see George Floyd.

00:15:40.000 You can't see a guy that's cracked out of his mind, you know, a myth out of his mind.

00:15:43.000 You can't see if the officers really have control or not.

00:15:46.000 You are going off of your own memory and experience.

00:15:49.000 So, when the level one call comes out and you hear it over the radio, your stress level goes out of the roof because you're imagining the worst. 0.95

00:15:56.000 He's probably imagining that these rookies are getting it handed to him by this big, crazy guy that's high on these drugs.

00:16:02.000 And when he get there, he sees that he's sitting in the car. 0.84

00:16:05.000 He calms himself down. 0.97

00:16:07.000 He's not an out of control, deranged, I want to kill a black man today, police officer that they are presenting him as. 0.99

00:16:14.000 And he's 5'9", 140 pounds. 0.98

00:16:16.000 And he knew Chauvin.

00:16:18.000 Or he knew Floyd.

00:16:19.000 They worked together in the past.

00:16:19.000 They knew each other.

00:16:21.000 Well, I know that they worked at the same bar, but I don't think it was proven they actually knew each other.

00:16:24.000 The statement was that they never interacted.

00:16:26.000 And it has not been talked about in the last few months.

00:16:28.000 Yeah, because I think that people fluff that up because they want to have a conspiratorial angle.

00:16:36.000 In reality, you can work in the same facility with somebody and not know them.

00:16:42.000 Apparently, they've worked in different parts of the building.

00:16:46.000 And they're hired by two different hiring processes.

00:16:49.000 So, I'm pretty sure Chauvin worked off-duty as uniformed police, which that goes through the police department.

00:16:55.000 I'm sure George Floyd was hired through their staff, probably a one-to-one or maybe an agency.

00:17:00.000 How about this?

00:17:02.000 Ian, what if you're right?

00:17:04.000 What if Chauvin gets his call?

00:17:06.000 Priority one call.

00:17:07.000 Get the lights on.

00:17:08.000 Speed there quick.

00:17:09.000 We got a six foot six, 230 pound guy.

00:17:11.000 He's fighting with these rookies.

00:17:12.000 The rookies are freaking out.

00:17:13.000 He can hear on the radio, he's resisting, we need backup.

00:17:16.000 Chauvin goes, oh man, he starts sweating bullets.

00:17:18.000 He hits the gas, he pulls up and goes, oh, it's Floyd.

00:17:22.000 Puts his taser away.

00:17:23.000 Walks over and says, I'll put him on the ground.

00:17:25.000 Floyd said, put me on the ground, man.

00:17:26.000 Put me on the ground.

00:17:27.000 So what if Chauvin was like, oh dude, I know this guy.

00:17:28.000 I'm not going to tase this guy.

00:17:29.000 Yeah.

00:17:30.000 What about that?

00:17:31.000 That's also possible.

00:17:32.000 Crazy.

00:17:33.000 Well, which, man, that hurts the prosecution.

00:17:35.000 Because it makes it seem like, oh no, he's personable.

00:17:35.000 Oh, definitely.

00:17:37.000 He knew him.

00:17:38.000 That's why he didn't tase him right away.

00:17:40.000 That's why he didn't, he didn't go, they didn't, they didn't, they didn't go hard on him like I would have.

00:17:47.000 I would have gone harder on him.

00:17:49.000 On Floyd?

00:17:50.000 On Floyd.

00:17:51.000 Not on the ground.

00:17:51.000 Initially.

00:17:53.000 We wouldn't have gotten to that point.

00:17:54.000 And the reason why is because you don't want to get to that point.

00:17:57.000 You don't want to get out of control.

00:17:59.000 You don't want to get a person getting too confident and then they start doing all this crazy stuff and now you have to use crazy amount of force on them in the end.

00:18:06.000 But think about this.

00:18:08.000 Then he falls out and bumps his head and breaks his neck and you're going to be liable for that.

00:18:13.000 And think about this, they put him in the car and Floyd, on the body camera, is saying, put me on the ground, put me on the ground, and he's kicking.

00:18:20.000 And so Chauvin goes, all right, I'm gonna do what he wants.

00:18:24.000 Chauvin should have been like, nah, we're not putting you on the ground, get in the car, dude.

00:18:26.000 If you were harder on him earlier, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to command you to put him on the ground.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, you gotta make a decision.

00:18:32.000 You gotta make a decision.

00:18:33.000 And these guys were rookies, so they don't have a lot of experience with these high-intensity situations.

00:18:37.000 And the guy's big.

00:18:39.000 And they don't know Floyd.

00:18:40.000 He could start going crazy on them, and they're out there flustered.

00:18:44.000 So, in the beginning, when he was cool, you'd be cool with him.

00:18:47.000 If you're gonna try to attempt to put him in a patrol car, you need to either put him in there, or you don't put him in there.

00:18:51.000 And if you put him in there, you need to start accelerating.

00:18:54.000 Because you're gonna have to get him in there.

00:18:55.000 If you play around with him, he's gonna, I can't breathe, and he's gonna kick himself out of the car onto the ground, and now he's on the ground, and you're not gonna get a six foot six, 230 pound crack head, meth head, Into a patrol car after he's prone on the ground. He's

00:19:10.000 never going in a patrol car after that So if you want to put him in there you put him in there you

00:19:14.000 use force and you put him in there you make him Get in the car and then you shut him in there. You don't

00:19:19.000 this is crazy I mean when you go through the body camera footage and

00:19:23.000 based on what you're saying It sounds like they went I'm not trying to say well, I'm

00:19:27.000 just gonna say it It sounded like they were... They didn't do enough.

00:19:31.000 They weren't... I don't want to say aggressive.

00:19:33.000 It's not the right word.

00:19:34.000 They weren't assertive enough.

00:19:35.000 They didn't put him in the car, close the door, and leave him there.

00:19:38.000 They opened it up...

00:19:40.000 They played around with him, like you said.

00:19:41.000 And if they just told Floyd, we're not putting you on the ground, we're not gonna do what you're asking, you're under arrest, none of this would have happened.

00:19:49.000 I believe so.

00:19:50.000 I mean, I've been in this situation before.

00:19:52.000 Plenty of times.

00:19:53.000 Probably a hundred times.

00:19:55.000 And when you let people get an inch, they take a mile.

00:19:58.000 An experienced police officer will be able to diagnose very quickly that George Floyd is either having a real medical emergency or he's not.

00:20:06.000 He's playing.

00:20:07.000 He's, he's, he don't want to go to jail.

00:20:08.000 This is what they do.

00:20:09.000 They claim a medical emergency so that they can have the police, the, the, the ambulance come and they hope to go to the hospital hoping that you will, because what happens is if, if you swallow drugs, right?

00:20:20.000 A fake, a fraudulent $20 bill isn't a serious charge in many jurisdictions.

00:20:25.000 They're not going to waste their time trying to go too far if you end up having a medical complication.

00:20:29.000 So, Typically what could happen is that you have a medical complication you claim it you have some type of reaction to swallowing drugs Instead of you get in the back of police car go into the substation you go to the ambulance go to the hospital They have to pump your stomach and do all these other things many police departments do what we call long form which means they leave you and

00:20:48.000 And they follow up with you later on.

00:20:50.000 And they may not even arrest you, take you to jail.

00:20:52.000 They may give you a ticket and walk away.

00:20:54.000 And so a lot of people who are in the system, they know to game it.

00:20:58.000 They either swallow the drugs and claim something, or they try to get themselves out of going straight to the jail.

00:21:04.000 Where were you a police officer?

00:21:05.000 Tucson, Arizona.

00:21:06.000 Did you guys have I-Bond?

00:21:08.000 I-Bonds?

00:21:09.000 No, what is that?

00:21:10.000 So, I think that's what it's called in Illinois, where they basically arrest you, but I do air quotes because what happens is the cop will walk up to you, say you're under arrest, fill out a form, sign this, you're free to go.

00:21:19.000 We call it cite and release.

00:21:20.000 It's called a paper ticket or whatever, because every...

00:21:23.000 Like, you still got court.

00:21:24.000 It's basically the same as arrest, but they just don't bring you to the station.

00:21:27.000 So what happens is they give you a ticket and you sign the ticket promising to appear in court.

00:21:31.000 If you fail to appear in court, now they can get a warrant for your arrest.

00:21:33.000 So it's the same process without booking.

00:21:36.000 Because what happens is, you know, in many of the police departments, people don't notice that if the county runs the jail, the police department, the city, has to pay for every person they intake.

00:21:45.000 And that's a money, that could be a money grab.

00:21:48.000 So what we did as a police department, people who were DUI, Um, well, no, not DUI, but people who are marijuana in possession of marijuana, because in Arizona, the threshold is two pounds.

00:21:58.000 And then you, you know, then that's, then you got to go to jail.

00:22:01.000 Anything with you guys got a huge bag and you're like, you're at 1.9.

00:22:04.000 You're good.

00:22:05.000 1.9.

00:22:05.000 Do you smoke this all day?

00:22:07.000 And so it's a usable amount or what they call a personal use.

00:22:09.000 So anything under two pounds, you can cite and release people depending on what you want to do.

00:22:14.000 So what we would do is we'll cite and release them in most cases, unless there's more, you know, circumstances surrounding your arrest, like multiple arrests or whatever.

00:22:22.000 We'll take you to the jail cell.

00:22:23.000 Either way it goes, you're promising to appear in court, either through booking or you're promising to appear in court on the side of the road.

00:22:29.000 And if you're not a big threat of fleeing, they'll just sign your ticket and you'll walk away.

00:22:33.000 You ever have people you saw doing like a non-violent crime and you're just like, I'm not gonna mess with this guy?

00:22:38.000 Yes, all the time.

00:22:39.000 So like, what's a good example of that?

00:22:41.000 Well, like somebody drinking alcohol.

00:22:44.000 Like, you know, I'll be going to another car, probably the car doing a beat, and I see the same drunk.

00:22:49.000 Because because you know drinking alcohol in public is a crime the same drunk out there on public property on private property Drinking a 40 ounce and he's just drunk.

00:22:58.000 He's gonna drink that thing and go behind the building and nobody cares He's just he's the neighborhood drunk or he's gonna go off to a house and squat It's a waste of my time.

00:23:08.000 Because there are people who really need my services.

00:23:10.000 Maybe if the day is slow, I may go and address the gentleman.

00:23:13.000 But other than that, you know, you let him go.

00:23:15.000 You know, sometimes you see a person... Was that a hand-to-hand or was it not?

00:23:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:20.000 And nowadays, if you're white, I guarantee you they're looking like, oh no, it's not worth it. 1.00

00:23:26.000 Do I want to be on the news?

00:23:27.000 Do I want to go to prison?

00:23:28.000 Do I want to lose my job?

00:23:29.000 If the cop is white? 0.99

00:23:30.000 If the cop is white and the perp is black. 0.96

00:23:33.000 Because you're like, if this turned into a fight, it's over.

00:23:36.000 Hand to hand is where it looks like they're handing each other something.

00:23:38.000 Yeah, yeah, they're handing drugs.

00:23:38.000 You may shake hands.

00:23:39.000 They could just be shaking hands.

00:23:41.000 They could be shaking hands or whatever the case may be or whatever they're doing or they could be selling dope.

00:23:47.000 Do you want to go down that path when you got an hour left on your shift and this could end up being a fight for your life?

00:23:53.000 Duke can pull a gun on you or whatever.

00:23:55.000 Cops do make those decisions. 1.00

00:23:56.000 I don't know how prevalent.

00:23:58.000 I've never had to be put in a position to make a decision on a hand-to-hand.

00:24:02.000 I work the midnight shift.

00:24:03.000 Nobody's out.

00:24:04.000 You're doing hand-to-hand at 12 o'clock at night.

00:24:06.000 It's on.

00:24:07.000 I gotta wonder if the state is actually throwing the prosecution on purpose.

00:24:13.000 Like, I'm reading these blog posts from Legal Insurrection, they got great analysis.

00:24:18.000 You look at ABC, CNBC, you know, and whatever, and they're basically like, the police say Chauvin did this wrong, police say Chauvin used excessive force, witness says Chauvin did this, and they're only telling you one side of the fight.

00:24:31.000 So it's like the way I described it yesterday is, it's a boxing match where the commentator is saying like, you know, oh, Brandon hits him again, hits him again, hits him again.

00:24:38.000 And they don't, what they're not telling you is that for every time you hit Ian, Ian hits you five times.

00:24:42.000 So then when the ref's like, Ian wins, people are like, what?

00:24:45.000 People are being set up to believe that Chauvin's going to get convicted because of the mainstream headlines.

00:24:50.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:24:50.000 I'm reading the legal insurrection analysis about the state's own witnesses constantly backfiring on the prosecution. They bring in this MPD officer to talk

00:25:00.000 about like training, use of force, and he's like, oh I once did the same thing. It's like, oh

00:25:05.000 geez dude. And so I'm wondering, and I'm not saying it's true, I'm just saying it's a 0.99

00:25:09.000 thought. Is it possible that the state is like, if Chauvin actually goes down for this, we're gonna get 200

00:25:14.000 cops just quitting overnight.

00:25:16.000 They're not going to want to work.

00:25:17.000 Because like you mentioned, right?

00:25:19.000 If you're a white cop and you see, you know, someone doing a handoff or whatever, you're going to be like, oh, dude, I'm not going to be that guy in the news being called a racist.

00:25:25.000 How many cops are going to look at what happened with Chauvin and be like, am I next?

00:25:30.000 Am I going to be told to go and subdue some guys on drugs and they're going to try and put me in jail for it?

00:25:35.000 Yeah, I think that definitely the second part of what you said, meaning that cops are going to have an adverse action to Chauvin getting prosecuted, especially when the case is so weak.

00:25:45.000 I don't think the prosecution is trying to throw it.

00:25:48.000 I just think they don't have a lot.

00:25:50.000 This was all conjured up on BS from the very beginning. 0.97

00:25:54.000 This is only getting attention because he's a white cop and a black man.

00:25:57.000 And the video is kind of intense.

00:26:00.000 If you just look at it with a naked eye, you're like, dang, that looked really bad.

00:26:03.000 So this is the only reason why it's getting this much attention.

00:26:05.000 Other than that, this is no different than Eric Garner.

00:26:09.000 I mean, Eric Garner was presumably choked, which it wasn't a choke.

00:26:13.000 I don't care what nobody say, he didn't choke the guy.

00:26:16.000 He presumably choked the gentleman and then he subsequently died from complications of a heart attack or whatever stuff that was going on.

00:26:23.000 He was a ticking time bomb.

00:26:24.000 Well, the knee on the upper shoulder back Was accelerating the ticking time bomb or maybe had something to do with maybe had something to do with the ticking time bomb of george floyd so if the guy

00:26:37.000 And the other case got off, then why would Chauvin be prosecuted for a similar reaction?

00:26:44.000 So the cop in the Eric Garner situation?

00:26:45.000 Eric Garner, I can't think of his name.

00:26:47.000 Yeah, Eric Garner.

00:26:48.000 He got acquitted, is that what happened?

00:26:49.000 Yeah, he got fired, but he got acquitted.

00:26:50.000 Right, right, right.

00:26:51.000 Yeah, Chauvin got fired.

00:26:52.000 Yeah, and he's gonna get acquitted if it keeps going the way that it's going.

00:26:56.000 I think what happened to Eric Garner is... 0.78

00:26:59.000 Tragic and ridiculous and it makes me pissed off at the system and the police department. 0.98

00:27:04.000 The dude was selling loosies. 0.98

00:27:05.000 You know, he's like sat on the street corner.

00:27:07.000 He's giving out single cigarettes to people.

00:27:09.000 So they try to arrest him for it.

00:27:12.000 Now, I get it.

00:27:12.000 You know, Brett Weinstein said, you know, he's a smart guy.

00:27:16.000 In order for society to function, cops need to be able to arrest the people.

00:27:19.000 You know, you can't resist.

00:27:20.000 Cop walks up to you.

00:27:21.000 You're not going to win a fight by trying to get into a fight with a cop and refusing and resisting.

00:27:25.000 You got to win through the system and it's not perfect and it's not great.

00:27:28.000 But then, I just think it's kind of dumb that this dude was just standing in a street corner. 0.58

00:27:32.000 Well, let's put it in perspective.

00:27:34.000 Do we really know what he was doing?

00:27:36.000 We don't know.

00:27:36.000 We weren't there.

00:27:37.000 He was saying, I'm just doing this.

00:27:39.000 That's a good point.

00:27:40.000 He was just, that's what he was saying.

00:27:41.000 I've never met a criminal say, I have maybe once, that says, come arrest me officer.

00:27:46.000 I'm doing all kinds of crimes here.

00:27:48.000 Let me write down the crimes that I'm committing so I can go to prison for life.

00:27:51.000 Nobody's going to do that.

00:27:51.000 There's actually the famous story of that guy who robbed a bank for $1, and then after he went and sat down waiting to get arrested because he had cancer, and he wanted to get health care from prison because he couldn't otherwise kill the guy.

00:28:02.000 I had a guy.

00:28:02.000 That's a crazy story.

00:28:04.000 We were in a midnight shift, man.

00:28:05.000 I'm just hanging out, just finished writing crazy case reports, and we're at the QT getting ready to get some donuts.

00:28:13.000 This guy come up to us screaming.

00:28:16.000 Arrest me!

00:28:17.000 Take me to jail!

00:28:18.000 Help! 0.98

00:28:19.000 And we're like, dude, stop.

00:28:19.000 Arrest me!

00:28:21.000 What is your problem?

00:28:22.000 He pulls out a bag of weed.

00:28:24.000 Because we said, no, we're not arresting you.

00:28:26.000 He pulls out a bag of weed.

00:28:27.000 It's like, arrest me now.

00:28:28.000 And we all look at each other like...

00:28:31.000 Who's going to write this case report?

00:28:33.000 So some people do it.

00:28:34.000 They do it.

00:28:35.000 Why do you do it?

00:28:36.000 But he was high on drugs.

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:39.000 And he was schizophrenic.

00:28:41.000 So he was afraid people were trying to kill him.

00:28:43.000 So he wanted to go to jail to be safe.

00:28:45.000 And he happened to have weed in his pocket.

00:28:47.000 And he presented it.

00:28:48.000 That didn't just go to a doctor, man.

00:28:50.000 I know.

00:28:50.000 We took him to jail.

00:28:53.000 For a few reasons.

00:28:54.000 I think he ended up having a warrant.

00:28:55.000 He was in possession of marijuana, but he can't get help from jail.

00:28:59.000 They will refer you to medical services if you have problems in jail in Tucson.

00:29:04.000 You ever see the movie Watchmen?

00:29:05.000 I don't think so.

00:29:06.000 I love that movie.

00:29:07.000 It was a much better comic graphic novel.

00:29:10.000 But in the movie, it's basically about a bunch of superheroes, vigilantes.

00:29:14.000 They wear masks.

00:29:16.000 They wear masks?

00:29:17.000 Yeah, it's like part of the premise is that they're not necessarily all superpowered.

00:29:21.000 There's people who put on costumes and fight, you know, crime.

00:29:24.000 And a law passes where you can't wear masks anymore.

00:29:27.000 Like, mask vigilantism is a crime.

00:29:29.000 And so there's a scene in the movie, I think it's in the comic as well, where these two heroes are reminiscing about this one villain who is constantly like, arrest me!

00:29:36.000 Arrest me!

00:29:37.000 And they were like, we'd always ignore him.

00:29:39.000 And then Rorschach, who's like this, he's one of the characters, he's a moral absolutist.

00:29:42.000 And they're like, whatever happened to that guy?

00:29:44.000 And then Night Owl goes, Rorschach dropped him down an elevator shaft.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, well, that sort of reminds me of a guy walking up to you being like, arrest me!

00:29:54.000 Here's drugs! 0.99

00:29:55.000 Take me in!

00:29:56.000 Yeah, in the case of Eric Garner, like this is the thing that I think is a two-fold thing here.

00:30:04.000 Eric Garner shouldn't have been breaking the law.

00:30:07.000 He had been arrested 40-something times before this one.

00:30:10.000 Some of his arrests included selling Lucy, some of them included resisting arrest, but you got to think about capitalism and freedoms.

00:30:18.000 The store that's selling full-price cigarettes is getting Jipped, because you got this guy who refused to work for the store or get a real job is selling cigarettes for a cheaper price right in front of his business.

00:30:31.000 Did the store call the cops?

00:30:33.000 I don't know if they called the cops in this instance, but somebody called the cops because they showed up, not unless they were surveilling him.

00:30:39.000 Which these guys look like they were in plain clothes, but I don't know if that's the way they do PD out there or not.

00:30:39.000 Right, right, right.

00:30:46.000 The problem I have is, you know, when I see this video of the Eric Garner situation, and I'm like, it pisses me off.

00:30:51.000 I see the George Floyd thing, it pisses me off.

00:30:53.000 I see a lot of these videos that everybody gets pissed off, and in my initial reaction when these stories started, you know, becoming prominent through social media, was sympathy and support for the activists.

00:31:04.000 Then I started actually looking at the evidence.

00:31:07.000 Then the George Floyd thing was basically a big punch in the gut for me.

00:31:10.000 Because when the George Floyd thing happened, conservatives, liberals, moderates, everybody was pissed off.

00:31:15.000 Everybody.

00:31:16.000 I think I was pretty upset.

00:31:17.000 Yep.

00:31:18.000 Everybody was coming out saying, nah, this is not good.

00:31:20.000 We want justice.

00:31:21.000 And here's what pissed me off.

00:31:22.000 Then the evidence comes in.

00:31:24.000 Then you're like, oh, geez, dude, we all jumped the gun a little bit.

00:31:27.000 But here's the problem.

00:31:28.000 When people who are like moderate, liberal, conservative of any persuasion actually investigate and find out, oh man, we might have been wrong on this one, they come out and say it.

00:31:39.000 When they think there's injustice, they call for justice.

00:31:43.000 But these leftists, when they're wrong, they just stop talking about it.

00:31:46.000 They just ignore it.

00:31:47.000 It just disappears.

00:31:49.000 Yeah, and they have to. 0.99

00:31:50.000 You know, for me, I always maintained that I thought that what he did was dumb. 0.61

00:31:54.000 And, you know, that guy caused a hailstorm that didn't need to happen. 0.97

00:31:58.000 Because George Floyd could have died, but he could have played to the camera.

00:32:02.000 You know, you're a white man on a black man, and he's saying, I can't breathe.

00:32:06.000 He's crying for his mama, even if he's wrong, even if he's lying, even if he's playing.

00:32:09.000 You play to the camera, dude, because the optics are just horrible here.

00:32:12.000 And the dude is subdued.

00:32:13.000 And if you need to jump on his neck again, you can.

00:32:16.000 But to just sit there with your hands in their pockets and he goes unconscious and you still don't do anything.

00:32:20.000 Right.

00:32:21.000 But I never said he will be found guilty in the court of law.

00:32:24.000 And I think I think the reason why is because I know policing, you know, and I reserve my opinions on the court of law because all the evidence hasn't been presented.

00:32:32.000 And these things keep occurring.

00:32:33.000 Like Breonna Taylor is another one.

00:32:34.000 Yeah.

00:32:34.000 You know, they keep saying that these people are are unjustifiably killed by police, creating an environment of hatred towards police, which is a big lie.

00:32:45.000 It's all a farce.

00:32:46.000 There are some people who were killed by police, and they didn't deserve to be killed by police.

00:32:52.000 I think Walter Scott was.

00:32:54.000 Oh, was it Philando Castile?

00:32:55.000 I think Philando Castile was the only iffy one for me.

00:32:58.000 What happened with him?

00:32:59.000 He got shot.

00:33:00.000 He was reaching for his identification, presumably, and he had a gun in his pocket.

00:33:05.000 So to the officer, it looks like he's reaching for the gun.

00:33:08.000 It was a legal gun.

00:33:09.000 And he was in his car.

00:33:10.000 No, no, no.

00:33:11.000 Let's talk about that.

00:33:12.000 It wasn't legal.

00:33:13.000 Because he was smoking pot.

00:33:14.000 No, not at the time, because the toxicology results that came back in the court of law in his trial Deemed that he was intoxicated, meaning that he had ingested marijuana at the time he got his permit.

00:33:24.000 And therefore he illegally obtained a concealed carry permit.

00:33:28.000 And even while he was illegally in possession of a concealed carry permit, he was violating the law at the time of his death because he was carrying a gun and he had illegal drugs in his possession.

00:33:39.000 So he was in possession of illegal drugs while carrying a firearm.

00:33:42.000 So he was all kind of messed up. 0.96

00:33:45.000 But does that mean he needs to die? 0.92

00:33:46.000 No, it doesn't.

00:33:47.000 But what it speaks to is the questionable nature of what is the cop seeing and what is he doing?

00:33:54.000 And he's reaching, he said, for his ID, but the cop sees a gun coming out of his pocket.

00:34:00.000 He should have had it in a holster.

00:34:01.000 He should be responsible gun owner.

00:34:02.000 And it probably wouldn't have been that iffy gray area.

00:34:05.000 This is where I get more Little L Libertarian and all this stuff.

00:34:08.000 I don't blame an individual cop for the most part.

00:34:12.000 I understand individuals bear responsibility for the actions they take, for the orders they follow.

00:34:16.000 But if we're asking cops to effectively, you know, be neutral arbiters of the law, not saying they always are or typically are, but that's the idea.

00:34:24.000 It's like, OK, we've all voted.

00:34:26.000 Legislators came in, passed this law.

00:34:28.000 Now we gotta have people to enforce the law so we have cops do it. 1.00

00:34:31.000 That cop's not playing favorites. 0.95

00:34:33.000 You know, first of all, he doesn't want to get jammed up and have his time wasted by someone doing something dumb. 0.52

00:34:37.000 And you're gonna argue and claim, oh, I should be allowed to do this, I should be allowed to do this.

00:34:40.000 Look, man, I know what the law is, you know what the law is.

00:34:43.000 I'm doing what was asked of me by the community.

00:34:45.000 The problem I see though is the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:34:49.000 It doesn't say anything about whether or not you smoke pot or whatever.

00:34:52.000 And I also think the war on drugs is wrong.

00:34:54.000 I do think there's a fair assessment about, you know, wielding a gun under the influence for sure.

00:34:58.000 So that's where, you know, things get iffy with Philando.

00:35:02.000 But I'm looking at it like...

00:35:04.000 We got cops, the Floyd circumstance specifically, Floyd was freaking out because I think the cops caught him mid-drug deal.

00:35:11.000 You know, Maurice Lester Hall was, it was testified by Floyd's girlfriend that he was their dealer.

00:35:16.000 They find this speedball, they see the blood in his system.

00:35:19.000 I think what happened was, it was a $20 counterfeit bill, not a big deal, but when the cops showed up, Floyd was like, we're, you know, it's like right now it's going down, this is serious charges, so he freaks out.

00:35:31.000 If it wasn't illegal to do drugs like that, and you had a right, I don't think he would have freaked out.

00:35:37.000 Well, he was driving.

00:35:38.000 You can't do that while you're driving.

00:35:41.000 This is the point that some people make, and it sounds good in theory, but in application it doesn't work.

00:35:48.000 You know, you see how crazy he was.

00:35:51.000 You see him in the store.

00:35:52.000 You saw him.

00:35:53.000 He was jumping and struggling to stand up at some point.

00:35:56.000 How was he operating a motor vehicle?

00:35:58.000 But then, you also see that because of his drug habit, he's now using the counterfeit money to purchase things.

00:36:04.000 Yeah.

00:36:05.000 So he's in a sense of desperation.

00:36:07.000 So if the counterfeit money doesn't work, what is he going to do next to get his high?

00:36:11.000 What is he going to do next to get what he wants?

00:36:13.000 He's going to start stealing things.

00:36:14.000 He's going to start robbing people.

00:36:15.000 He's going to start breaking other laws that affect other people.

00:36:19.000 If you were smoking crack in your own house, nobody cares.

00:36:23.000 I've never caught somebody smoking crack in their own house.

00:36:25.000 I never, never.

00:36:27.000 I'm gonna randomly break into his house.

00:36:28.000 There he is!

00:36:29.000 There you go!

00:36:30.000 Oh, he got cracked everywhere! 0.98

00:36:31.000 And you know what happens if I just kick his door in and get all the crap out of him? 0.98

00:36:34.000 You get in trouble, man. 0.98

00:36:35.000 First of all, I'm getting fired and then none of this stuff, all of this is pressed in court.

00:36:38.000 He'll never go to jail for it.

00:36:39.000 It's the fruit of the poison tree.

00:36:40.000 Exclusionary rule.

00:36:41.000 I have already started down the path of doing illegal stuff.

00:36:44.000 None of this is gonna count.

00:36:45.000 So, it doesn't happen.

00:36:47.000 So, but what I do see is that the reason why Philando Castile and these laws are in place that a person is a possession of a firearm with illegal substances is because of the drug game.

00:36:56.000 It's because of drug dealing.

00:36:57.000 It's because people are violent.

00:36:59.000 All of these young people that are getting killed in the inner city are getting killed in this ring of drugs, gangs, gun violence, all of these things which are trying to, which police are trying to combat via the legislators.

00:37:12.000 And so, It's not a big deal to me because I don't carry illegal drugs on me while I'm carrying my firearm.

00:37:19.000 I just don't do it.

00:37:20.000 If I want to smoke weed, I just smoke it at the house.

00:37:23.000 And if I want to smoke it illegal, I just smoke it at the house.

00:37:25.000 Yeah, legal in most places now.

00:37:26.000 It's legal in most places.

00:37:27.000 Arizona just passed a law that is legal in Arizona.

00:37:29.000 I don't know if it's in effect yet, but they passed a law, which I think is counterproductive.

00:37:34.000 But at the end of the day, I don't care.

00:37:37.000 Police don't care. 0.97

00:37:39.000 They don't care.

00:37:39.000 About people doing drugs?

00:37:41.000 About people smoking weed.

00:37:42.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:37:43.000 It's not a big deal.

00:37:44.000 I got these stories from the South Side where it's like, you know, my 16-year-old friends would be like hanging out, skating at a park or whatever, and they're smoking pot, and they would see like a cop pull up, and they'd all freak out and like throw it, and the cops would laugh.

00:37:54.000 And there was one story where apparently like my friends are at a park, they're smoking, they see a cop roll up, they freak out, throw the pipe, the cops laugh and go, yo, we don't care.

00:38:04.000 We're looking for a guy who's like 5'10, he's wearing a brown shirt, you see him?

00:38:07.000 Nah, he's like, later kids.

00:38:09.000 And they just drive off.

00:38:10.000 Yeah, I mean the freak out that people have is probably the most dangerous.

00:38:14.000 Because Floyd may have been able to beat the case in the court of law.

00:38:20.000 If he didn't freak out and be weird, it would have just been a counterfeit thing.

00:38:24.000 And the store could choose not to prosecute.

00:38:27.000 Now, I don't know if that's the way that they do it there, but in the state of Arizona, the store has to prosecute.

00:38:32.000 Your crime against them doesn't matter.

00:38:34.000 Well, it's the state that brings charges.

00:38:36.000 Not in Arizona?

00:38:38.000 So there's a, you know, there's a time period in which crimes can be prosecuted and not, right?

00:38:45.000 So if I go to a convenience store and I steal candy out of convenience store and it's just shoplifting, I committed a crime.

00:38:51.000 A store can say, I don't want to prosecute.

00:38:54.000 Therefore, the police department will not arrest me because the story didn't want to prosecute.

00:38:57.000 However, they can prosecute as long as it's within a year or so of that crime or whatever the statute of limitations is for that particular crime.

00:39:06.000 So the only thing that changes in the state of Arizona, and it's probably universal across the board, is domestic violence. 0.88

00:39:12.000 So a woman getting her butt kicked can't say, no, I don't want to prosecute my baby daddy today. 0.99

00:39:17.000 No, the state picks up those charges. 0.99

00:39:19.000 She has no choice.

00:39:20.000 Other crimes against persons that are not involved in domestic violence, people can decide not to prosecute.

00:39:24.000 Well, my understanding of that is that what's actually happening is the prosecutors say, without a witness, we wouldn't win.

00:39:31.000 So it's always the state versus, you know, the people versus the person.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, ultimately it's the state, but we make those determinations at the police level.

00:39:41.000 If there's no complaint, what are you charging the person with?

00:39:43.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:39:45.000 But technically they make the decision.

00:39:47.000 We still report it, we still follow it up, and a detective can still follow up with the case, and they can change their mind. 0.56

00:39:54.000 But at the moment, most people, they don't want to prosecute, because George Floyd is a crackhead.

00:39:59.000 I mean, he's a drug user, meth user.

00:40:01.000 He probably smoked crack, too, I'm sure.

00:40:02.000 Fentanyl.

00:40:03.000 But he uses drugs.

00:40:05.000 And so when the cops showed up, maybe he would have come in and reconciled it, and the cops could have assisted him in doing that.

00:40:12.000 But he panicked because he got his dope dealer, who had a bag of drugs, probably, and he panicked and swallowed dope.

00:40:19.000 And I know people, personally, Who sell drugs, who have done things like that.

00:40:24.000 And that's a common occurrence.

00:40:25.000 They swallow dope.

00:40:27.000 Because if you swallow it, now you don't have it in your possession and you can't be charged with it.

00:40:31.000 They call it hooping.

00:40:32.000 That's what he said.

00:40:33.000 That's what I've learned in the last few days.

00:40:35.000 And he said it blatantly to the officer.

00:40:36.000 I was hooping earlier.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, but the way PBS reports that, it meant basketball.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, right, I was playing basketball.

00:40:43.000 That's probably why it's coded like that.

00:40:45.000 I'm sure he's not playing basketball as high as he was.

00:40:48.000 Or he's lying.

00:40:49.000 Yeah, or he's lying.

00:40:50.000 But in your experience, does hooping typically refer to swallowing drugs?

00:40:54.000 I never heard of the term hooping.

00:40:55.000 Nobody ever used that term.

00:40:56.000 I mean, it's probably cultural.

00:40:58.000 You said hooping for basketball or hooping for drugs?

00:41:00.000 For drugs.

00:41:01.000 I've never heard hooping for drugs.

00:41:02.000 I've heard hooping for basketball.

00:41:04.000 I've heard shooting hoops.

00:41:05.000 I've never heard I was hooping.

00:41:07.000 I mean, I never heard a person admit that they swallowed.

00:41:09.000 Right, right.

00:41:10.000 They admitted that they swallowed drugs unless they wanted medical attention.

00:41:13.000 And they would say, hey man, I need the ambulance.

00:41:16.000 I swallowed it.

00:41:17.000 I think he did want the ambulance.

00:41:19.000 He did, but the thing is, I think he went about it in a roundabout way because he was so high.

00:41:23.000 He was trying to convey to them that I want medical attention because I don't want to go to jail, but he didn't want to go ahead and admit that I swallowed the dope that Homeboy just sold me right here in front of the store.

00:41:35.000 Let's try to buy with counterfeit money.

00:41:37.000 Let's pull up the story.

00:41:39.000 We got the story from the hill because this is part of the defense and I think we should bring it up.

00:41:42.000 Chauvin defense attorney claims Floyd said, quote, I ate too many drugs in arrest video.

00:41:48.000 This is really weird because you can't really hear exactly what they're saying in this video.

00:41:53.000 It's just this loud clamoring.

00:41:55.000 I guess maybe George Floyd said it, but to me, it's like that Yanny Laurel thing.

00:42:01.000 If someone plays a weird sound and tells you, here's what they said, you'll hear it.

00:42:06.000 There's this really funny song where they have, it's a very short meme song.

00:42:11.000 I can't remember what it was.

00:42:12.000 It's like 30 seconds where they're saying the same thing over and over again, the same phrase, but the text shows a different phrase.

00:42:19.000 Yes.

00:42:20.000 So it sounds like they're saying different things but it's the same word over and over and over again.

00:42:23.000 So when they play this video and you can't really make it out and they're like, doesn't it sound like Floyd said I ate too many drugs?

00:42:28.000 You're like, maybe?

00:42:30.000 Maybe?

00:42:31.000 So here's where it gets crazy.

00:42:33.000 The prosecutor says, he didn't say I ate too many drugs.

00:42:36.000 He said, I ain't do any drugs.

00:42:38.000 Which one was it?

00:42:40.000 Well, hold on.

00:42:41.000 He said one of the two, right?

00:42:42.000 That's the argument?

00:42:43.000 So either he said he's admitting to it, or he's lying, because we know from the tox report that he did eat the drugs.

00:42:48.000 So what do you think he said?

00:42:49.000 Well, I don't know what he says, and it's not going to matter if Chauvin didn't write it in the case report.

00:42:54.000 Because Chauvin could just deny that he heard anything.

00:42:56.000 But the thing is, is that the prosecution is shooting themselves in the foot again.

00:43:02.000 If he said I ate too many drugs and Chauvin did not recognize that he needed aid to be rendered to him, then Chauvin would be potentially culpable in not rendering aid to a person who admitted to swallowing drugs.

00:43:17.000 And the prosecution turned around and said, no, he didn't say that.

00:43:20.000 He said, I didn't do no drugs.

00:43:21.000 Well, then that makes Chauvin even more, you know, a reasonable person because he's saying I didn't do no drugs.

00:43:27.000 So there's no reason to put him on the side in a recovery position.

00:43:30.000 That's what I wanted to get to with this story.

00:43:32.000 Is that it seems like the defense is pulling a Bugs Bunny on the prosecutors.

00:43:36.000 So you guys, you know in Lillitoons when Daffy and Bugs, and this says rabbit season and duck season.

00:43:41.000 And Daffy's saying it's rabbit season and Bugs is like, no it's duck season.

00:43:43.000 Then all of a sudden Bugs goes, it's rabbit season.

00:43:46.000 And then Daffy goes, no it isn't, it's duck season.

00:43:48.000 And then Bugs goes, okay.

00:43:50.000 And then Elmer Fudd shoots Daffy. 0.61

00:43:52.000 That's basically what happened.

00:43:53.000 They're like, didn't he say he ate drugs?

00:43:54.000 No, no he didn't say that.

00:43:55.000 He said he didn't eat drugs.

00:43:57.000 Oh, okay, so Chauvin should not have rendered aid because they didn't do any drugs.

00:44:00.000 I'm wondering, are they that brilliant, or it's just falling that way?

00:44:04.000 Slipping on banana peels and doing backflips.

00:44:05.000 Because what they're trying to argue is, see, it's two things being argued here.

00:44:10.000 They're trying to preserve, the prosecution is trying to preserve the character of George Floyd. 0.93

00:44:15.000 So him saying I ate too many drugs is proving that his character is a drug user and that he's crazy out of his mind.

00:44:20.000 But they're fighting that.

00:44:21.000 They're saying, no, he said I didn't do no drugs.

00:44:23.000 George Floyd wasn't a bad guy.

00:44:25.000 But that's playing into the lap of the defense because they're not caring if he's a good guy or bad guy.

00:44:30.000 They're trying to decide whether Chauvin was rightfully knowledgeable about him being overdosing, potentially overdosing from drugs.

00:44:38.000 Should he have been set in a recovery position?

00:44:40.000 Was he experiencing excited delirium?

00:44:43.000 Which is another term that I haven't, at least I haven't heard every word of the case, but I haven't heard excited delirium brought up much.

00:44:49.000 I wonder if, like, the prosecutor or the defense is going to listen to this and they're going to get the idea because the trial's ongoing.

00:44:56.000 And then the state prosecutor is going to be like, the other day we mentioned that, you know, the defense said George Floyd said I ate too many drugs.

00:45:03.000 Yes.

00:45:04.000 He did say that.

00:45:04.000 You know, we agree.

00:45:06.000 Chauvin should have rendered aid, because the defense agrees.

00:45:08.000 That's what he said, right?

00:45:09.000 Yeah.

00:45:10.000 That's crazy how that works out that way.

00:45:12.000 They're trying to defend the character.

00:45:13.000 They're shooting themselves in the foot.

00:45:14.000 It's too late now.

00:45:16.000 Do you have the audio?

00:45:17.000 Can you play that audio?

00:45:18.000 I can't.

00:45:18.000 Is it available?

00:45:19.000 Not on YouTube.

00:45:20.000 Because it's part of the whole... YouTube doesn't allow you to show the Floyd incident.

00:45:23.000 I don't know how you guys feel, but once I found out that he had fentanyl, norefentanyl, and that was overdosing... And meth.

00:45:30.000 That I just... It looks like a drug overdose death.

00:45:33.000 Well, I don't know.

00:45:33.000 Well, just for the sake of understanding fentanyl for a second, fentanyl is one of the most potent and dangerous drugs that I know that exist at this point.

00:45:43.000 It is more, you know, dangerous than a horse tranquilizer.

00:45:46.000 It is more potent, in little bitty grams of it.

00:45:51.000 If you research, and I did a video about this and it showed a Phoenix police officer, and I'll tell you how it evolved, a Phoenix police officer with gloves on, Was handling a drug laced with fentanyl and he passed out and they had to administer Narcan to him or he would have died just for handling inhaling vapor from a drug laced with fentanyl.

00:46:14.000 And our department, when I was on the department of fentanyl, when it first came to our understanding how potent it was, every drug we test, you have to wear a full hazmat suit to test every drug.

00:46:29.000 Gloves, you gotta wear a mask, and you gotta have a complete hazmat suit on because fentanyl can seep through the skin, you can inhale it, and if you ingest it, you might as well call yourself dead.

00:46:38.000 So we pulled up from the DEA.gov an image of a lethal dose of fentanyl, and it's next to a penny.

00:46:47.000 Have you ever seen this photo?

00:46:48.000 No, I haven't.

00:46:50.000 It's one one hundredth the size of a penny, a lethal dose of fentanyl.

00:46:54.000 Yeah, lethal.

00:46:55.000 It shows a penny on the screen, and there's tiny little white specks.

00:46:59.000 I've heard these stories, man.

00:46:59.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 I remember in Chicago they called it super heroin because, like you said, you could accidentally just inhale a tiny bit, you're dead.

00:47:07.000 People didn't get it.

00:47:08.000 So it's like lab-created opiate that didn't exist 12 years ago?

00:47:11.000 It's a new thing, right?

00:47:13.000 I don't know when it was invented.

00:47:16.000 I don't know if it's new or they're newly administering this

00:47:20.000 as a additive to these drugs.

00:47:23.000 Because think about it, see how little that is?

00:47:25.000 You get a lot of that, it go a long way.

00:47:28.000 You sprinkle a little of that in some methamphetamine, which is probably what Floyd was taking,

00:47:33.000 and it'll drive you nuts.

00:47:35.000 And you only need a little bit and you can charge way more.

00:47:37.000 Because you got some powerful stuff there.

00:47:39.000 Do you know what kind of meth it was that was in his system?

00:47:41.000 Just meth, methamphetamine?

00:47:42.000 Well, there's like methylenedioxymethamphetamine, which is MDMA.

00:47:46.000 A crystal meth, which is much more dangerous than MDMA.

00:47:49.000 In the tox report, it's just listed as methamphetamine.

00:47:52.000 Just as methamphetamine.

00:47:52.000 And I almost think that any methamphetamine that is street level is going to be the crystal methamphetamine, because it's the way they cook it and put it together.

00:48:00.000 That's my assumption.

00:48:01.000 And they begin to sell it that way, and people get in these little crystals.

00:48:03.000 I've never seen methamphetamine in any other form except crystal.

00:48:09.000 And then if they mix fentanyl with crystal meth, is that the idea?

00:48:14.000 That's what the speedball is?

00:48:16.000 Speedball, yeah.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, and normally, you know, speedball can be mixed with methamphetamine and heroin.

00:48:21.000 So it's kind of like that mixture of an upper and a downer.

00:48:25.000 Some sort of opiate with a methamphetamine.

00:48:27.000 Some sort of opiate with an upper, you know, and typically it's methamphetamine.

00:48:30.000 And dude, that's dangerous, man.

00:48:32.000 People do speedballs, that's a thing. 0.52

00:48:35.000 People do speedballs all the time and they don't They don't live with all of that.

00:48:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:48:41.000 You're taking it, ingesting it into your body over time, you're gonna die.

00:48:44.000 Heroin is killed.

00:48:45.000 You know, I had a family member die from a heroin overdose.

00:48:48.000 Heroin is pretty legitimate.

00:48:49.000 You know, these opiates are really legitimate.

00:48:52.000 And Floyd, I guarantee you that methamphetamine and fentanyl probably isn't his typical drug.

00:48:59.000 I think that he probably started using it after a while.

00:49:03.000 I'm pretty sure he used all kinds of stuff.

00:49:06.000 Um, they'll do anything to get high.

00:49:08.000 You know, if you, if you a crystal meth, you, you, you have done a lot of other stuff to get a high and crystal meth is kind of like, especially if you're black.

00:49:17.000 And I'm not making it a race thing.

00:49:19.000 It's a culture thing. 0.96

00:49:21.000 In most black areas, they do crack. 0.98

00:49:24.000 They crack rocks. 0.70

00:49:25.000 They do crack.

00:49:26.000 When you start getting the meth, you are on another level.

00:49:29.000 You have now branched out of the typical drug arena that you're in, and you're starting to go and deal with people who are on another level of drug production.

00:49:38.000 That's not every city, but in my city, that was... Do you know the lethal dose of methamphetamine is?

00:49:38.000 And that's just my opinion.

00:49:45.000 No.

00:49:46.000 I tried to look this up.

00:49:47.000 It's really hard to find.

00:49:48.000 Fentanyl was easy to look up.

00:49:50.000 Not only does the DEA have a photo showing you how just a tiny bit of fentanyl can kill you, but they also talk about between 10 and 20 nanograms per milliliter is anesthesia range, where you basically get knocked out.

00:50:02.000 Right.

00:50:03.000 And that at 7 ng per ml, in combination with other drugs, is where you're in overdose territory.

00:50:09.000 Otherwise it's around like 11 or so.

00:50:11.000 Now the norfentanyl in the system is a metabolite of fentanyl, meaning he might have even had

00:50:14.000 17 ng per ml when he first ingested this.

00:50:18.000 He had 19 ng per ml of methamphetamine in the system.

00:50:23.000 I don't know what the lethal concentration for meth is, and I couldn't find it, but he had a lot.

00:50:28.000 He also had tobacco, which is a stimulant.

00:50:29.000 Caffeine.

00:50:30.000 Oh, caffeine and THC.

00:50:31.000 He had cotinine or something.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, that's from meth.

00:50:34.000 He had two different kinds of THC in his system.

00:50:36.000 You know, a big combination.

00:50:38.000 Like I said, this guy is a drug, a habitual drug user.

00:50:41.000 He's going to his next high, you know, and this was his next high.

00:50:45.000 And then it ended up, but I don't think he was into, he wasn't, I don't think he was actively getting high at the time.

00:50:51.000 It's that he got caught with a whole thing of drugs and he had to swallow it.

00:50:55.000 And he killed him.

00:50:57.000 I mean, what's the guy, the little rapper that was on the airplane?

00:50:59.000 Yeah, I remember him.

00:51:00.000 And he flew on a private jet and he had drugs and he... Well, Prince.

00:51:03.000 He died from fentanyl, but that's probably not who you're talking about.

00:51:05.000 Nah, it's a rapper.

00:51:06.000 It was recent.

00:51:07.000 A rapper, he landed somewhere.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, he was young.

00:51:09.000 He was like 25.

00:51:09.000 And they thought the cops killed him or something like that, but what happened was he got caught with marijuana, but he has other drugs that he ingested.

00:51:16.000 And so he ended up ingesting them and dying.

00:51:19.000 Like I said, I know people, and I'm not going to disclose how I know them, who they are specifically, but I know people that have gotten caught by the cops.

00:51:26.000 Was that Juice WRLD?

00:51:27.000 I think it was Juice WRLD.

00:51:28.000 Was it Juice WRLD?

00:51:29.000 I swallowed Percocet at Chicago Airport.

00:51:32.000 Swallowed Percocet, okay.

00:51:34.000 Because he didn't want to get caught, so he swallowed more than you would take.

00:51:37.000 You're trying to swallow the whole thing so you don't get caught with any of it.

00:51:40.000 Because once it's in your body, they can't charge you with anything.

00:51:42.000 See, that's a war on drugs thing for me though, you know what I mean?

00:51:45.000 Kind of, man.

00:51:46.000 It's a whole ring of behaviors.

00:51:48.000 But if people were just growing methamphetamine, I mean, it's a lot of chemical compounds to get meth.

00:51:53.000 But if you had cocaine and you were just doing coca leaves and cocaine, I don't even know how it's made, but you're just doing it in your backyard, who cares?

00:52:00.000 Nobody will ever know.

00:52:01.000 This dude on a plane.

00:52:02.000 But no, but how did he get it is the question.

00:52:05.000 What is he doing with it is another question.

00:52:08.000 And a lot of times these people are getting it through nefarious means, meaning that they are contributing to the cartel in Mexico and all the trafficking that goes on and gun smuggling and trade.

00:52:18.000 All of that goes into those drugs getting here, and when they get here, what are they doing to other people?

00:52:22.000 The distributor is killing people.

00:52:25.000 To me, if you sell drugs, if you sell heroin to somebody, or you sell methamphetamine to somebody, I would like for that to be a form of attempted murder.

00:52:34.000 If that person dies and you sold it to them, you should be charged with murder.

00:52:38.000 But let's say we stop these laws.

00:52:40.000 All of a sudden the cartels go out of business.

00:52:41.000 They're not gonna go out of business.

00:52:42.000 Well, you know what's going on with the cartels now?

00:52:44.000 You wanna know what they started selling?

00:52:46.000 With marijuana being legalized in a bunch of different states, they found a new cash crop that they've started seizing upon.

00:52:46.000 What?

00:52:52.000 What is it?

00:52:53.000 Avocados.

00:52:54.000 No joke, no joke.

00:52:55.000 I saw the article.

00:52:55.000 Avocados.

00:52:56.000 Yeah, so I even went down to Mexico.

00:52:58.000 I mean, what are they doing with avocados?

00:52:59.000 Just the avocados that you eat or are they doing something weird with it?

00:53:02.000 Business is business.

00:53:04.000 Because they found they're extremely valuable and Americans has a high demand for avocados.

00:53:09.000 So with the legalization of marijuana, what ends up happening is they're like, we used to have essentially a monopoly on this product because the government said it was illegal.

00:53:17.000 So you needed someone under the radar to come and take it.

00:53:20.000 Well, if it's legal, we're going to maximize profits.

00:53:23.000 Guess what?

00:53:24.000 Now that people can get cheaper legal stuff, avocados are worth way more.

00:53:28.000 So they started saying, okay, then they go to these avocado farms and they're like, we're going to distribute this for you from now on.

00:53:32.000 And so what happens is a lot of that starts, a lot of that criminal enterprise gets, it breaks down because the cartels are like, avocados are legal.

00:53:40.000 We just bring them in, you know?

00:53:41.000 Yeah, the abuse of these drugs.

00:53:42.000 I mean, it's a lot of factors, man.

00:53:43.000 I mean, you think about the prohibition of alcohol.

00:53:46.000 I mean, yeah, alcohol is legal now.

00:53:47.000 People are not smuggling alcohol, but they're still drinking it illegally, and they're still killing people probably more than methamphetamines killing people and drunk drivers and people beating their wives and killing people.

00:53:56.000 Most calls that I went on, domestic violence related calls and violent

00:54:00.000 calls, people were drunk. They were drunk off their butt. 1.00

00:54:02.000 It wasn't weed. 0.99

00:54:02.000 So ban alcohol. 0.99

00:54:04.000 You know, alcohol is... What I'm saying is that if you think legalizing it is going to stop the effects of it, it's

00:54:11.000 So making it illegal, is that going to stop the effects of it?

00:54:11.000 not.

00:54:15.000 It may not, but I really do think there has to be some consequences.

00:54:21.000 Because why do I not smoke marijuana?

00:54:23.000 I mean, I don't smoke because it's illegal.

00:54:25.000 I really don't want to smoke it because it's illegal.

00:54:27.000 Why do I not do certain things because they're illegal?

00:54:29.000 If they weren't illegal, maybe I'll take, maybe I'll try meth.

00:54:33.000 Maybe they'll be, it'll be in a different form where you put a little methamphetamine or, you know, now they put embalming fluid in marijuana and it's called, um, what did he call it?

00:54:43.000 Formaldehyde.

00:54:43.000 I forget the name.

00:54:44.000 Yeah.

00:54:45.000 So they put that, they put that in, they put it in.

00:54:47.000 Marijuana, and they call it, it was a rapper that said it, and it just escaped my mind.

00:54:52.000 I'll come back to it.

00:54:53.000 Did Hunter Biden say he smoked Parmesan cheese or something like that?

00:54:55.000 Yeah, he said it.

00:54:56.000 That just hit us on the brink.

00:54:57.000 You know, one thing about meth, MDMA, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, which is a type of meth, is used in, like, couples therapy.

00:55:05.000 Because if used right, certain types of meth are incredibly good for you.

00:55:10.000 But, so meth, the word meth gets a bad reputation.

00:55:14.000 Yeah, amphetamine.

00:55:15.000 Yeah, certain types of amphetamines, if used in the right environment, can be beneficial.

00:55:21.000 Crystal meth, though, I've never heard any lab uses of that.

00:55:24.000 Yeah, because I think it takes a different form.

00:55:27.000 You have to chemically put this together.

00:55:28.000 I think Adderall is for different amphetamine salts or something like that?

00:55:33.000 Yeah, but you get into these weird things, man.

00:55:35.000 You say, okay, what if all drugs were legalized and everybody can use any drug they want?

00:55:41.000 So you just say you started using heroin and you're a father of three children.

00:55:46.000 You can't be a dad smoking heroin all day or whatever, whichever way you're doing it.

00:55:51.000 You can't be a productive dad doing these things.

00:55:54.000 And my thing is that you're not going to grow it in your backyard.

00:55:57.000 You're going to get it from somebody.

00:55:58.000 So if you can stop the person from delivering it, Then you're going to save a lot more people than just letting it flow freely.

00:56:05.000 Good luck, because they're getting it out of Afghanistan. 1.00

00:56:07.000 This is interesting because I'm pretty libertarian when it comes to drugs.

00:56:11.000 I'm fairly in favor of some form of mass legalization, but with some kind of regulation.

00:56:16.000 So the idea would be you'd have to go to a specialty clinic to buy it.

00:56:20.000 It's legal, and that way they can make sure you don't overdose.

00:56:22.000 It's in a controlled situation, and they can get you off it.

00:56:24.000 They can slowly lower your dosage and help you get away from withdrawal symptoms and things like that.

00:56:30.000 I've often been a proponent of that, but there's one big caveat that has no answer.

00:56:34.000 Opiates already are illegal.

00:56:36.000 The doctors prescribe them like sugar candies, and then people get addicted, and then they die from it.

00:56:36.000 They are.

00:56:44.000 That's actually George Floyd.

00:56:46.000 His girlfriend testified that they were both had some injuries and chronic pain and were prescribed opiates and then they got addicted to it.

00:56:53.000 And that's a physiological dependence.

00:56:56.000 So then they were like, when the doctor wouldn't give them anymore, they freaked out and just started becoming habitual drug users.

00:57:01.000 Yeah, I see that happening.

00:57:02.000 But I think, I think, you know, you got people that become habitual people and you got people that's just making excuses.

00:57:08.000 You know, when I go to the doctor and I have any kind of thing, I elect not to take drugs.

00:57:12.000 I just don't want to take the drugs.

00:57:13.000 Yeah.

00:57:14.000 Now if it's something that, you know, like your leg is broken in half and they gotta give you something.

00:57:17.000 Antibiotic.

00:57:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:19.000 Antibiotic.

00:57:20.000 They give you something that's gonna stop the pain.

00:57:22.000 It could be a, you know, a pretty harsh drug.

00:57:24.000 Then you'll take it.

00:57:25.000 You know, my wife, you know, when she, after her pregnancy, she had a C-section and they gave her pain pills.

00:57:31.000 But, of course, we're monitoring it.

00:57:33.000 We're like, okay, we're not gonna take that.

00:57:36.000 After you need it.

00:57:37.000 We're not going to overdo it.

00:57:38.000 Right.

00:57:39.000 We're going to balance enduring the pain and not taking too much.

00:57:43.000 But some people are, you know, they people make excuses, man.

00:57:46.000 And they go, well, I was addicted.

00:57:48.000 Nobody told you to take Percocet after you were after your illnesses were over just because you had a big bottle of Percocet.

00:57:54.000 You need you need to.

00:57:55.000 And some people sell it.

00:57:58.000 The doctor prescribes crazy amounts of drugs, which I think that needs to be regulated.

00:58:02.000 I think of my wife.

00:58:03.000 They gave her a big ol' thing of pills. 1.00

00:58:05.000 I'm like, she's not gonna need that many pills that long.

00:58:08.000 You know how much money she can get if she sold them? 1.00

00:58:10.000 Just on the street?

00:58:11.000 You know, you're talking about $25, $50 a pill.

00:58:13.000 I don't know how strong the pill was, but you're talking $20 something a pill, and you got 200 pills in this thing.

00:58:19.000 You can make money, and people fake injuries, and they get injured, and they get in a dope game this way.

00:58:23.000 So, I think that We should regulate the legalized drugs that we're already administering to people.

00:58:30.000 We should regulate those things and make sure they're not abusing those things. 0.99

00:58:34.000 And we should enforce these produced, unmanaged, like you said, You know, these drugs are not being, we don't know how they're making these drugs.

00:58:43.000 You know, like I said, sherm, you know, smoking sherm is what I was referring to.

00:58:43.000 Yeah.

00:58:48.000 Smoking sherm. 0.71

00:58:49.000 Oh yeah, with the formaldehyde.

00:58:50.000 With the formaldehyde and marijuana.

00:58:51.000 And then primos.

00:58:52.000 When I was growing up, they used to call it primo, where you have weed, but you put a little crack, somebody put crack in it.

00:58:57.000 That's why when you get your weed, you got to open it up and go through it and make sure people aren't putting pieces of crack or other drugs in your marijuana.

00:59:05.000 And so some people smoking Primo and they don't know it, then they get addicted to crack or whatever drugs that they end up lacing the marijuana with.

00:59:13.000 I gotta pull this story up, man.

00:59:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:16.000 I think most of you may have seen the story, but I pulled up Snopes.

00:59:20.000 Does everybody love Snopes?

00:59:21.000 They're so accurate.

00:59:22.000 So accurate.

00:59:23.000 Did Hunter Biden say he smoked Parmesan cheese?

00:59:26.000 Yes, tell us Snopes.

00:59:27.000 For people addicted to crack cocaine, cravings often drive decision making.

00:59:31.000 True.

00:59:32.000 Okay.

00:59:34.000 That's it!

00:59:35.000 Snopes confirms!

00:59:36.000 That's the casein in the cheese.

00:59:37.000 I hear that in an interview broadcast on April 4th Hunter Biden the son of the president said he mistook

00:59:43.000 Parmesan cheese for crack in the past and accidentally smoked the dairy product

00:59:47.000 They say while it was true under Biden said I probably smoked more Parmesan cheese than anyone

00:59:52.000 His statements implied that he mistook other granular items for the drug during the depths of his crack addiction

00:59:57.000 Additionally, it was false to frame that quote as a confession that he sought out and smoked Parmesan cheese

01:00:02.000 specifically to try to get high I still-

01:00:07.000 Confirmed.

01:00:08.000 It's worse!

01:00:09.000 Dude, listen.

01:00:10.000 If somebody was like, you ever try smoking Parmesan?

01:00:12.000 I don't know, let's see what happens.

01:00:14.000 That's not as bad as someone being like, I'm so addicted to crack, I'm gonna smoke white powder.

01:00:19.000 I don't know what it is.

01:00:20.000 I don't know what it is!

01:00:22.000 You know, breadcrumbs on the ground.

01:00:24.000 I'm just gonna start smoking everything I see on the ground.

01:00:26.000 I'm just on the ground just picking up stuff to put in a pipe to smoke.

01:00:29.000 White powder, whatever it is.

01:00:30.000 I don't know.

01:00:31.000 Whatever it is, dude.

01:00:32.000 I smoked sage one time.

01:00:33.000 You guys ever sprinkle?

01:00:34.000 Sage?

01:00:34.000 I was like, what?

01:00:35.000 No, no, no, no.

01:00:36.000 Hold on.

01:00:37.000 Psychoactive or anything.

01:00:37.000 Hold on.

01:00:38.000 You can sniff Parmesan cheese.

01:00:40.000 Like you can, you can take it.

01:00:42.000 That's cheese.

01:00:43.000 You can taste it.

01:00:43.000 Yeah.

01:00:44.000 Smell like butt. 0.99

01:00:44.000 Smell. 0.99

01:00:45.000 Smells like butt. 1.00

01:00:46.000 Yeah, it stinks. 0.99

01:00:48.000 Maybe crack. 0.52

01:00:49.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:00:49.000 Somebody was hiding in their butt. 0.99

01:00:51.000 Yeah, that's what it was. 0.99

01:00:53.000 Putrescine or cadaverine.

01:00:54.000 Somebody was pooping.

01:00:55.000 Bacterias that grow on animal products.

01:00:58.000 I wonder why the prosecution or the defense brought up, like, almost as if Floyd ingested or put something in his, you know, what?

01:01:07.000 Buttock.

01:01:08.000 They did.

01:01:09.000 That was weird.

01:01:09.000 They brought it up.

01:01:11.000 That fact hasn't come out yet, but I'm wondering, did they find rectal... I don't know.

01:01:17.000 But the defense asked the question in the George Floyd case.

01:01:19.000 He was like, he said, are you familiar with people smuggling drugs in their rectum?

01:01:25.000 And then he just moved on right away.

01:01:25.000 And the defense was like, no.

01:01:27.000 Because I feel like they were setting something up later.

01:01:30.000 They're going to have an expert come and talk about something that nobody knows.

01:01:33.000 I think they're going to go for whooping.

01:01:35.000 It's whooping when he's swallowing or whooping his body?

01:01:39.000 It's storing, smuggling drugs in your body. 0.99

01:01:41.000 So when you go to Urban Dictionary and you look up whooping, it says, shoving stuff up your butt. 0.98

01:01:45.000 Yeah, people do it all the time. 0.98

01:01:45.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:01:47.000 I mean, I don't know why this would be strange.

01:01:48.000 People do it all the time.

01:01:49.000 When you're running around with dope, you hide it on your person.

01:01:52.000 Of course.

01:01:53.000 You don't walk around with a crack in your hand and, hey, hey, going to the store, robber stuff.

01:01:57.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:01:58.000 The rubber glove meme.

01:01:59.000 You could put it in a Kraft Parmesan cheese box.

01:02:01.000 Yeah.

01:02:03.000 So, in the context, I don't think he was talking about smuggling drugs because he said, I didn't do no drugs.

01:02:08.000 And then when the cop's like, but you got foam on your mouth, he's like, yeah, man, I was hooping.

01:02:12.000 I think he's basically trying to say... I think he said he's playing basketball.

01:02:14.000 He's playing basketball.

01:02:14.000 I mean, that's what I would get.

01:02:15.000 No, I don't.

01:02:16.000 I think he was being like, yeah, I shoved drugs in my mouth.

01:02:18.000 I'm out of my mind.

01:02:19.000 I'm losing it.

01:02:20.000 But he said, I didn't take any drugs.

01:02:22.000 So he was lying all over the place.

01:02:22.000 Right.

01:02:24.000 I didn't take any drugs. 1.00

01:02:24.000 I just shoved them up my butt. 1.00

01:02:25.000 No, he was saying, I didn't take any drugs. 0.99

01:02:27.000 I was hooping.

01:02:27.000 That's why I'm tired.

01:02:28.000 That's why I got cotton mouth. 0.98

01:02:29.000 Exactly.

01:02:30.000 He looked like an athletic guy.

01:02:31.000 You know, he had a little tank top on.

01:02:32.000 He probably still hooped.

01:02:34.000 He probably still shoots hoops every now and again.

01:02:36.000 Not in that state.

01:02:37.000 My theory is he was just lying all over the place.

01:02:38.000 He tried to sell a fake $20 bill.

01:02:41.000 He lied to the cops.

01:02:43.000 We know he wasn't hooping.

01:02:44.000 So I know he was lying and playing basketball.

01:02:47.000 I want to get to the point of why I bring up the story with Hunter Biden smoking Parmesan cheese.

01:02:50.000 This guy, Hunter Biden, can go on TV and admit to the world the son of the president is a crack addict that smoked whatever white powder he found on the underside of his table.

01:02:59.000 The story about George Floyd, look, it's a big club.

01:03:02.000 We know we're not in it.

01:03:03.000 Barack Obama talks about it.

01:03:04.000 He's like, oh yeah, I smoked.

01:03:06.000 Did Obama do coke?

01:03:07.000 I don't know if that... Oh, sure.

01:03:08.000 I thought you said he did something in college, didn't he?

01:03:10.000 Yeah, I thought that's... I don't know for sure.

01:03:12.000 He did TA, total absorption, where they take a hit of weed and you hold it in until it completely absorbs in and when you breathe out, there's no smoke.

01:03:19.000 Well, that's not what I mean.

01:03:20.000 I mean like a hard drug.

01:03:20.000 Obama was hardcore.

01:03:21.000 I ain't never heard no smoke.

01:03:22.000 I smoked when I was young.

01:03:23.000 I'm just saying, if you get caught and get arrested for smoking pot, Not so much now, because it's recreational.

01:03:29.000 It's legal now.

01:03:30.000 You're not going to be president.

01:03:32.000 But Obama can get elected and then come out and be like, oh yeah.

01:03:34.000 Because he never got arrested.

01:03:35.000 Look, when the story comes out about Hunter Biden and the crack pipe and all this stuff, the media buries it.

01:03:41.000 They don't want anyone to know.

01:03:43.000 So you've absolutely got an elite class of ultra-privileged drug addicts.

01:03:48.000 They can do whatever they want.

01:03:48.000 They just get away with it.

01:03:50.000 Yeah, because I think some of them, they're smarter.

01:03:53.000 You know, where was he smoking Parmesan cheese?

01:03:54.000 Probably in his house.

01:03:56.000 He probably wasn't smoking Parmesan cheese on a corner of 6th and May or whatever. 0.61

01:04:00.000 So, the problem is, is that, you know, these crackheads are so cracked out of their mind, man.

01:04:04.000 They're out and open doing crack. 0.60

01:04:07.000 Obama admitted to doing cocaine.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, so, but think about it.

01:04:10.000 How many people have done cocaine and never got caught?

01:04:12.000 Because they were doing it in a property or home, they may have escaped getting caught buying it from the dealer. 0.99

01:04:18.000 But I mean, I think that there's a level of stupidity that comes along with people who get caught. 0.98

01:04:23.000 As a former police officer, we didn't care, we used to have this saying, and it goes, every police department probably says this, you don't catch the smart ones. 0.99

01:04:30.000 You don't catch people that's smart, you catch the dummies that are smoking weed, driving down the street, banging music with the windows down, smoking weed to the weed, just flying out of the car, and they drive by you and you're like, bro, are you really?

01:04:46.000 Everybody at the stoplight is looking at me like, are you going to do something about this? 0.79

01:04:51.000 And I would have never done anything about it.

01:04:53.000 I could care less.

01:04:54.000 Who cares?

01:04:54.000 It's a little ticket that you're going to get.

01:04:55.000 They're going to throw it out in the court of law. 0.87

01:04:56.000 You're going to waste my time.

01:04:58.000 But you're doing, you're just rolling down the street, banging music, causing attention to yourself and weed.

01:05:02.000 Smoke is hot.

01:05:04.000 Billowing out of the window.

01:05:05.000 And in a way you gotta because if you don't, other people are going to emulate the behavior and everyone on the street is going to be high driving or not everybody.

01:05:12.000 But now you heard like in a bunch of these states, cops can't pull people over for smoking weed.

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 I mean, even, even when, you know, for smelling, for smelling the weed, for smelling weed, not smoking it because it's still impairment of driving impaired.

01:05:25.000 But smelling marijuana is not justification for a stop?

01:05:28.000 Yeah, that's been gone for our department.

01:05:31.000 That's been gone probably since 2012 or earlier.

01:05:35.000 When they started, it was a case that happened.

01:05:38.000 I can't remember the name of the case, but once they started legalizing medical marijuana and stuff.

01:05:44.000 The smell of marijuana is not a justification for you going to somebody's house because they could have a medical marijuana card.

01:05:49.000 It's not justification.

01:05:51.000 However, when you put somebody on a traffic stop, there's a difference between burning marijuana and fresh marijuana.

01:05:56.000 So burning marijuana in a car means nothing.

01:05:59.000 You already smoked it.

01:06:00.000 I don't have anything.

01:06:01.000 I smoked it.

01:06:02.000 Fresh marijuana is a different smell, and that can give you justification to stop somebody and get a dog, or maybe even go into somebody's car.

01:06:09.000 Is that partly because of intent to sell?

01:06:11.000 Because I think what I learned is... No, it's that you have nothing left if you smoked it.

01:06:15.000 Oh, so you're just looking for the peace, I guess.

01:06:16.000 I've had cops pull me over and then lie, claiming they smelled pot.

01:06:20.000 I don't smoke pot.

01:06:21.000 I've never. 0.89

01:06:22.000 One time when I was a teenager with some friends, and I was like, this is dumb, I don't care. 0.63

01:06:25.000 What was the next step? 0.89

01:06:26.000 They said they smelled pot, and then what did they say?

01:06:28.000 Then, he walks up to my car, and I got my wallet and my keys on the dashboard, I got my hands on the steering wheel, windows rolled down, cop walks right up and goes, Hey, how's it- Whoa!

01:06:37.000 What's that?

01:06:38.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:06:39.000 Sir, I smell marijuana!

01:06:41.000 And I went, excuse me?

01:06:42.000 And he's like, I'm gonna have to ask you to get out of the vehicle.

01:06:44.000 And I was like, okay.

01:06:45.000 And I get out, I'm in my work uniform, so I have these jumpsuits for the airline at O'Hare.

01:06:50.000 And then he immediately walks me to his car, puts me in cuffs, calls for backup.

01:06:53.000 Backup shows up.

01:06:54.000 Secondary officer comes and holds the cuffs, you know, in the middle.

01:06:57.000 And then the cop goes and starts searching my car without my permission.

01:07:00.000 The other cop starts talking to me and just small talk nonsense.

01:07:05.000 The cop walks up and he's got what looks like some bit of plant.

01:07:09.000 And he goes, what is this?

01:07:11.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:07:12.000 And he's like, it's marijuana.

01:07:13.000 And I was like, is it yours?

01:07:15.000 And he was like, no, I got it from your car.

01:07:17.000 And I was like, no, you didn't.

01:07:18.000 Because I don't smoke.

01:07:19.000 And he was like, it was in your car.

01:07:21.000 And I'm like, I work at O'Hare.

01:07:23.000 They do random drug tests.

01:07:24.000 I work with planes.

01:07:24.000 I don't smoke.

01:07:25.000 And then he was like, just confess, and this will be a lot easier.

01:07:30.000 And I was like, confess to what?

01:07:31.000 Just confess, and it'll be a lot easier.

01:07:31.000 It's not mine.

01:07:34.000 At this point, I'm talking to the other cop, and I guess the one cop goes back to my car, and he's telling me that it's gonna be really hard for me, it's gonna get a whole lot worse unless I just admit right now that I was driving under the influence, that I've been smoking.

01:07:47.000 And I'm just like, dude, I don't smoke, we do random drug tests.

01:07:51.000 At this point, the cop who pulled me over walks back over and goes, who's the firefighter?

01:07:56.000 And I went, my dad.

01:07:57.000 Then the other cop un-cuffs me and they go, go home, kid.

01:08:00.000 And they got in their cars and they left.

01:08:02.000 I had a firefighter's emblem in the glove box that my dad gave me.

01:08:07.000 And once they saw that, they backed off.

01:08:09.000 But legit, my car was full of Taco Bell garbage wrappers.

01:08:13.000 I don't smoke.

01:08:15.000 You work for the airlines.

01:08:16.000 You're done.

01:08:16.000 You get random drug tests.

01:08:17.000 You lose your job.

01:08:18.000 Nobody's smoking there.

01:08:19.000 And so that was it.

01:08:21.000 The dude pulled me over and used the smell of marijuana justification to get me out of the car and search everything.

01:08:26.000 And legit, I was leaving work.

01:08:28.000 I'd worked 16 hours.

01:08:29.000 I don't smoke.

01:08:30.000 Yeah, I can see that happening.

01:08:32.000 You know, some cops, they get power hungry, man, and they don't want to do the real work.

01:08:37.000 They want to do the easy route.

01:08:38.000 And so, if they can get you to admit to some stuff, they get you arrested or whatever.

01:08:42.000 It's rare, I mean, because there's so many people out here committing crimes.

01:08:46.000 Maybe if you're in a, I don't know if you're in a rural area or whatever.

01:08:49.000 See, rural is probably, they're probably a lot more dicey, because they don't have no work.

01:08:53.000 You're their work.

01:08:54.000 In the city, you can't, like, It's too much work.

01:08:58.000 You're like, please stop selling drugs.

01:09:01.000 I'm just not going to arrest anybody anymore.

01:09:02.000 It's too much.

01:09:04.000 It's like if you ever tried to go after people, you'd be arresting people all day long.

01:09:08.000 I mean, all day long, people are doing crime.

01:09:10.000 But that doesn't excuse what happened to you.

01:09:12.000 You know, it's funny because when I was a kid, I don't blame every cop for that.

01:09:16.000 But see, this is what I want to happen in our society is that empower people to be able to do what's right

01:09:22.000 in that situation when you get hemmed up by cops that shouldn't be doing what they're doing.

01:09:26.000 Not to defund the police department, but let's spend resources to empower people

01:09:31.000 and let's get those people turned in. 0.98

01:09:32.000 Because if you, what could you have done in that situation if I was a cop and I was telling you,

01:09:37.000 like look, get their badge number, and your dad is a firefighter.

01:09:42.000 He was a firefighter and then report them and your dad will have a lot more weight on the command staff because this is what people don't understand.

01:09:50.000 Command staff don't give a F about these patrol officers. 0.78

01:09:55.000 They care about publicity.

01:09:56.000 They care about, not all.

01:09:58.000 You get a little rural area in the county somewhere, they all buddy-buddy.

01:10:01.000 But in many police departments, the command staff will review it and say, you know what?

01:10:07.000 Screw that guy. 0.96

01:10:07.000 We'll run him over. 0.96

01:10:08.000 This will make our department look good and we'll do it to him.

01:10:11.000 Let me tell you my story from when I was like 15 in South Side of Chicago.

01:10:14.000 So there's a carnival.

01:10:15.000 They come and they occupy certain blocks because they need a parking lot and they need space.

01:10:20.000 So these moving carnivals do a deal with the residents.

01:10:24.000 You know, we'll make sure nobody goes on your property.

01:10:27.000 Well, I had a friend who lived in one of those houses.

01:10:29.000 We go to the carnival, we play the quarter game, we play, you know, squirt gun game, you know, knock over the clown, win some prizes.

01:10:34.000 We go and we sit on his lawn and we're chillin', and a security guard walks over to us and he goes, hey, you guys gotta leave.

01:10:40.000 And my friend goes, this is my house.

01:10:42.000 I don't care, you gotta leave, you can't be here.

01:10:44.000 And then he's like, this is my house, where am I supposed to go? 1.00

01:10:48.000 And then we get up, and then I start saying the same thing, like, my friend lives here, one of the security guards grabs the skin of my chest, like, just like, he pinches into my chest, and starts prodding my head, saying, are you stupid? 0.99

01:10:59.000 It's time to go! 0.99

01:11:00.000 And like, yelling at me.

01:11:02.000 So I'm like, dude, just like, left a physical mark on my body, and I'm, I'm a little arrogant, you know, prick, so I immediately call my dad, and I'm like, dude, this guy just walked up, Went on my friend's property, was told it was his property, and then he physically grabbed me, left a mark, and poked my head.

01:11:16.000 That's assault and battery in Illinois.

01:11:18.000 My dad goes, you're right.

01:11:19.000 What do you want to do?

01:11:20.000 And I was like, I want to press charges.

01:11:22.000 And he was like, I'll be right there, because there's a few blocks from my house.

01:11:24.000 He shows up.

01:11:25.000 He says, who was the guy?

01:11:26.000 I'm like, it's those two guys there.

01:11:27.000 It was an older guy, probably in his late 50s.

01:11:29.000 So he's like, all right, call the police.

01:11:31.000 I call the police, and I say, I'm on my friend's property.

01:11:34.000 Security guard just assaulted me.

01:11:36.000 Cops show up and they walk over to us and say, what's going on?

01:11:39.000 My dad's like, this is my son.

01:11:40.000 You're like, you know, pull up your shirt, show him your chest.

01:11:42.000 And I had like a mark on my chest.

01:11:43.000 Cause he like, you know, grabbed, pinched into my chest. 0.90

01:11:45.000 And then he's like, and he's probably, and all the other kids who were with me are like, yeah, he started poking him on the head with his hand, like mocking and calling him dumb.

01:11:51.000 And the cop's like, all right, all right, we're going to the bottom of this.

01:11:54.000 We see the cops walk over to the security guards, start talking, shake the hands of the guys, start laughing.

01:12:02.000 And then the guy walks over and says, listen, you know, we're just gonna say, you know, we're done.

01:12:07.000 It's no big deal.

01:12:09.000 How about everybody goes home?

01:12:10.000 And I'm like, no, no, that's not how it works.

01:12:12.000 I want this guy, you know, I want this guy charged.

01:12:15.000 And they're like, well, we're not gonna do that.

01:12:16.000 So my dad goes, I want a supervisor on scene now.

01:12:19.000 White shirt shows up.

01:12:20.000 The white shirt walks over to the, immediately, to the guy who was screwing with me, pats him on the shoulder, shakes his hand, starts laughing and smiling, walks over to us and says, here's what's gonna happen.

01:12:31.000 Your son's gonna be arrested for trespassing, or you can leave right now.

01:12:35.000 Because it turns out the guy who had committed assault and battery, I know it wasn't the biggest thing in the world, but in Illinois, assault and battery is when you embarrass someone or touch them.

01:12:43.000 Turns out he was a retired cop.

01:12:44.000 So there was nothing that could be done.

01:12:46.000 So my dad, who was a firefighter, was like, I'm gonna file a complaint with Internal Affairs.

01:12:50.000 And guess what happened?

01:12:51.000 Nothing.

01:12:52.000 Nothing.

01:12:53.000 I could see that happening.

01:12:55.000 I mean, I could see it happening, man.

01:12:56.000 I mean, to me, based on my experience, it's rare.

01:13:00.000 But if you are to think that cops aren't gonna hold each other's back in some cases, they're not gonna lie in some cases, then you must think that cops are gods.

01:13:10.000 You know, there's some there's some fallible human beings that make huge mistakes, and I want us to eradicate them.

01:13:18.000 And you eradicate them professionally. 0.56

01:13:20.000 Eradicate the mistakes.

01:13:22.000 Eradicate them, meaning getting them out of the profession.

01:13:26.000 Not killing them. 0.93

01:13:28.000 I like that word, eradicate. 0.94

01:13:30.000 What do you think about robot police?

01:13:32.000 No.

01:13:34.000 And the only reason I say that is because who's controlling them?

01:13:37.000 I don't know, what if it's a decentralized algorithm that we're all aware of?

01:13:40.000 Nah.

01:13:41.000 You could be like, show me your code, and it will be like, zing, and you'll see, like, it's orders and everything.

01:13:45.000 But then you got like, who wrote the code?

01:13:46.000 Can it get hacked or whatever?

01:13:49.000 Can it get hacked?

01:13:49.000 It's not just that.

01:13:50.000 You got a homeless veteran with no legs, and he's smoking a joint under a bridge with no one around, and the robot drone comes down and goes, violation section 23A, marijuana use in public, you are under arrest.

01:14:04.000 And the guys, like a regular cop's gonna be like, I don't care about that.

01:14:06.000 So bad laws, the cop uses his common sense and is like, I'm not gonna prosecute a bad law right now.

01:14:11.000 Well, you know, I think that it'll work, but it'll get out of control.

01:14:16.000 So you can, you know, the little drone thing, I mean, it just depends.

01:14:19.000 Somebody just shoot the thing out the air and now it's a bigger deal, but.

01:14:22.000 You throw a roll of toilet paper at it, it goes down.

01:14:24.000 Yeah, you throw water at it or something.

01:14:25.000 But if it was like a Terminator.

01:14:26.000 But if it was something that could actually catch people in crimes and it'll stick around until the cops can get there or whatever, Yeah, I mean, that could work, but then you get more manipulation.

01:14:37.000 You're like, well, how far would this thing go, and what are they going to do in the next 10 years?

01:14:41.000 Are they going to make physical cops that use force against you? 0.56

01:14:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:14:47.000 And then they get out of control, and then whoever's controlling them, Now they make a law, and they use a force policy for, you know, you can't, a machine won't go to jail.

01:14:56.000 So once it beat the crap out of you, it's not, nothing's gonna happen.

01:14:59.000 And it's pros and cons.

01:15:00.000 So if you jaywalk, a cop can be like, I don't care if he's jaywalking.

01:15:04.000 Or he can be like, oh, that's jaywalking, you get a ticket.

01:15:06.000 Robot every single time will be like, warning, jaywalker spotted, and it's gonna stop you.

01:15:10.000 They could make the robot have discretion.

01:15:12.000 I mean, as smart as AI is today, they can make robots have discretion.

01:15:15.000 I don't think they could.

01:15:16.000 They physically could, but not legally.

01:15:18.000 I think- It would be too many lawsuits.

01:15:21.000 Well, it depends.

01:15:23.000 I mean, honestly, just walking around with a body camera that's on 24 hours a day and monitoring all of his behaviors, it could say, it could prioritize certain things because In any given intersection, you can have a jaywalker and then somebody speeding.

01:15:35.000 In any given intersection, you have a jaywalker and you have somebody else doing something else more egregious.

01:15:40.000 Or you can have a person who's jaywalking and it's not a threat, or a person who's jaywalking across a green.

01:15:44.000 You know, you're walking across a green light.

01:15:46.000 And so there could be prioritized... I mean, they can do whatever they want to do with these computers, but I think it gets out of control.

01:15:54.000 The government is not our friend, in my personal opinion.

01:15:57.000 So you think it's easier to get corrupt cops under control, they're like buddy-buddy and won't turn each other in, than it is to keep robots under control?

01:16:04.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:16:05.000 100%.

01:16:05.000 Because most cops don't like these bad cops.

01:16:08.000 Like, we had some in my department, they got fired, but nobody liked them.

01:16:11.000 It was this one guy, and I won't say his name, he used to always push the limit, push the envelope.

01:16:16.000 You're supposed to identify where you go every time you get on the radio.

01:16:19.000 You know, 2 out of 11-7, that was my call sign.

01:16:21.000 2 out of 11-7, I'm checking out here with one at these cross streets. 0.99

01:16:25.000 He would not check out and just be doing some rogue stuff.

01:16:29.000 But it wasn't against the law.

01:16:31.000 Skirting against policy...

01:16:33.000 But then he does things that lead to other things that ended up getting himself fired because he started cheating on different things and manipulating numbers.

01:16:41.000 But everybody hated him.

01:16:43.000 He used to ask me to go on calls with him.

01:16:45.000 I'm like, I don't even want to go on a call with you because you're going to get us in a position where I'm going to have to fight somebody or whatever the case may be.

01:16:50.000 We hated him.

01:16:51.000 Thank God he was off the police department when he got fired.

01:16:53.000 Everybody celebrated.

01:16:54.000 There's officers on the police department that are like that.

01:16:57.000 And I'll tell you one unfortunate thing that you won't hear people say if they're, unless they want to be completely honest, is that there are cops that cops don't like, and they are bad cops, but they're not breaking the law.

01:17:10.000 Right.

01:17:11.000 You know, there's two cops that I can think of right now that if you resist arrest, they're gonna work you.

01:17:17.000 They're gonna tune you up.

01:17:20.000 Nickel rides?

01:17:21.000 Yeah, nickel rides. 0.74

01:17:23.000 They'll tune you up.

01:17:24.000 And so, is it legal?

01:17:26.000 Yeah.

01:17:27.000 If you throw a punch at a police officer, they can fight you back.

01:17:30.000 But they're gonna tune you up, no mercy. 1.00

01:17:32.000 If you pull a gun on somebody or you pull out a knife on somebody, I know God will shoot you and kill you and won't even care about it. 1.00

01:17:39.000 Probably will laugh at it after a while. 0.99

01:17:41.000 Is that illegal?

01:17:42.000 No.

01:17:43.000 I don't think it's right, but it's not gonna get you fired.

01:17:47.000 And those things do occur.

01:17:49.000 So when people say that cops do stuff, excessive force and things, it's like, I can see that happening.

01:17:54.000 But we can work to get rid of people on the police department like that.

01:17:59.000 We can work for transparency.

01:18:01.000 I have my likes and dislikes about body worn cameras, but body worn cameras overall in totality of circumstances is a good thing.

01:18:09.000 We can do more things like that on the police department and make things better and more transparent.

01:18:14.000 That's fine.

01:18:15.000 But defunding the police?

01:18:17.000 Acting like every police shooting is a is a bad shoot, like you're never going to get anywhere with that.

01:18:23.000 Well, let me let me ask you then.

01:18:24.000 So so to the point about robot cops and another point that needs to be brought up is bad laws in the Constitution.

01:18:30.000 So right now, I mean, I can talk about the rigidity of a robot cop, but the Constitution says shall not be infringed.

01:18:37.000 Cops in New York City don't care. 1.00

01:18:38.000 Cops in New Jersey don't care. 0.99

01:18:39.000 They don't care what the Constitution says. 0.80

01:18:40.000 Didn't you swear an oath to the Constitution?

01:18:42.000 Police did.

01:18:42.000 Yeah, the Constitution come before any laws.

01:18:46.000 How could you be, you know, in New Jersey, where this one story, a woman was from Philadelphia, legally allowed to own a gun, and she was like mid-40s, and she jumped the bridge, you know, just like drove across the bridge, it's a five-minute drive, she wanted to go to the casino, she gets pulled over, cop without question arrests her, charges her with a felony for gun possession.

01:19:04.000 She has a concealed carry permit from her state.

01:19:07.000 She made a mistake. 1.00

01:19:08.000 She was just stupid. 1.00

01:19:09.000 Felony charge. 1.00

01:19:10.000 Yeah, you could charge a person with that, but I don't think that's gonna go far in court.

01:19:13.000 It ended up, so for political reasons, this one particular case ended up getting stopped.

01:19:17.000 But, look man, in Chicago...

01:19:20.000 You got a lot of people who are just a dad and a family.

01:19:24.000 And he's like, I know they call this place Chiraq, so I'm buying a gun. 0.92

01:19:27.000 I don't care what the law says.

01:19:28.000 I have a right to defend myself.

01:19:30.000 These people get felony charges.

01:19:31.000 I know.

01:19:32.000 I'm like you.

01:19:35.000 We need to fix these things because the Constitution should trump any gun laws. 0.94

01:19:38.000 But it's the cops, man.

01:19:39.000 It's not the cops.

01:19:40.000 It's the legislators that we elect that create the laws and cause us to enforce it because cops don't make the laws. 0.99

01:19:47.000 Cops don't even want to enforce these laws, but you have sworn to uphold the constitution and the laws.

01:19:53.000 So how do you do both?

01:19:54.000 So what's constitutionally acceptable, right?

01:19:56.000 The constitution, we have votes.

01:19:58.000 People vote on legislators and legislators pass laws.

01:20:00.000 And so when they pass a law, just because you don't like it, or maybe you feel that it's slightly infringing on your constitutional rights, don't mean That the police shouldn't enforce them.

01:20:11.000 Like, for instance, voter laws.

01:20:13.000 Some people believe it's an infringement on the constitutional right that they have to show identification to vote.

01:20:18.000 I don't.

01:20:18.000 I think they should enforce that.

01:20:20.000 So, the difference, I suppose, is you've got, I think, what are they?

01:20:23.000 The 14th, 19th, and the 26th amendments, I think, pertain to, I could be getting the numbers wrong, pertain to voting.

01:20:29.000 And so voting isn't as clearly defined in the Constitution about what you're guaranteed.

01:20:34.000 There are some things where you can't be restricted based on certain characteristics, as the amendments I mentioned, like sex, race, etc.

01:20:39.000 But when it comes to Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:20:44.000 Is it infringing on someone's right to bear arms, telling them they literally can't have a gun in public?

01:20:50.000 Well, I think yes, but also people vote for those laws.

01:20:54.000 In the state of Arizona, we're a constitutional carry state.

01:20:56.000 My rights aren't up for a vote.

01:20:57.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

01:20:58.000 But I'm saying, like, we put it in the totality.

01:20:59.000 That was Michael Malice, by the way.

01:21:01.000 We'll put it in the totality of circumstances.

01:21:03.000 We'll say, in the state of Arizona, constitutional carry, we don't need permits, we carry everywhere, conceal, whatever, and it doesn't matter.

01:21:09.000 Now, one day, the public, in a democracy, you know, that we claim we live in, people can vote that there can be additive laws to restrict gun possession in certain cases, like convicted felons, different things like that.

01:21:23.000 We arbitrarily vote for laws that thwart our constitutional rights, to a certain degree, and we vote for that.

01:21:31.000 And not everybody, because some people don't agree with it, but some people do.

01:21:34.000 That's what the Constitution's for, man.

01:21:37.000 I know, and I think that's why you have case law and you have other things that are brought to the Supreme Court to give guidance on how to float with this.

01:21:45.000 Because I guarantee you a person who has a concealed carry permit and they cross state lines, prosecuting them is going to be almost impossible.

01:21:53.000 I can't see a person getting prosecuted for a felony charge if they're not Malice, if there's no malice in intent. 0.90

01:21:59.000 Nah, bro, it happens.

01:22:00.000 I know it happens, but it's very rare unless there's culpability there.

01:22:05.000 Like somebody intentionally saying, I'm gonna break the law that I know is present in this state, I'm gonna cross state lines, break the law, get caught doing something else with this gun, and you give prosecution moral.

01:22:15.000 There was a story about an old lady who was in her 60s, and she was from, I think, Kentucky, and she had a legal permit for a revolver.

01:22:22.000 She went to visit Chicago to see the sights, and she went to some tourism spot where she informed security, like, oh, before I go in, I just want to let you know I have my concealed carry with me, and they're like, right this way, ma'am.

01:22:32.000 Felony charge.

01:22:33.000 She went to prison.

01:22:34.000 I knew a guy... Is that the full story, though?

01:22:37.000 That's the full story.

01:22:37.000 I mean, that's the full story.

01:22:38.000 Old lady, had no idea what was going on, and they put her in prison. 1.00

01:22:40.000 Dude, Illinois is crazy, man. 0.97

01:22:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:22:42.000 Real crazy. 0.99

01:22:43.000 There was a dude in Illinois who his family was house sitting for their neighbors and

01:22:49.000 the local cops knew the neighbors were out of town.

01:22:52.000 This kid was 18, he's a man now, and he went to the neighbor's house, took one of their

01:22:57.000 beers and started drinking it.

01:22:59.000 The cops drove by and saw through the window that the kid was drinking beer and they knew

01:23:02.000 the family was out of town so they went in and arrested him.

01:23:06.000 And then when it turns out, he said, I was my family's house sitting for the neighbors.

01:23:10.000 They wanted us to be checking on their house.

01:23:12.000 They were like, did you enter the house?

01:23:14.000 Did you take property?

01:23:15.000 Mandatory minimum, send him to prison.

01:23:19.000 These stories happen, man.

01:23:21.000 Now, I believe you.

01:23:22.000 I trust you with good faith.

01:23:24.000 I have to read and listen to a court document of some judge sentencing somebody or even a prosecution's argument Beyond a reasonable doubt that this person is guilty of... This story was really controversial.

01:23:42.000 Sorry to interrupt.

01:23:42.000 I'm going to look it up, man.

01:23:44.000 Because there's mandatory minimum laws.

01:23:47.000 And so the judge's response was, the law is the law.

01:23:50.000 I have to sentence someone who enters the property of another person and takes property.

01:23:54.000 It's burglary.

01:23:54.000 End of story.

01:23:56.000 And apparently the prison was like, they wouldn't, it was like ingestion or whatever, they were like, we're not gonna file this paperwork, this is ridiculous, this is insane.

01:24:04.000 Oh, like intake?

01:24:05.000 They're like, we're overcrowded as it is, and this kid who took a beer, and there was some big controversy about it.

01:24:05.000 Yeah, intake.

01:24:10.000 Yeah, I gotta watch that, man, because I'm like, okay, a kid, and it could be, and it totally- It's a long time ago.

01:24:15.000 Stuff goes wrong in a court of law.

01:24:18.000 More frequently than people expect, but not as much as people want it to be.

01:24:21.000 But that's very interesting that they would be able to get a person on that and then have a complainant.

01:24:29.000 I mean, you got to have the people who own the house have to be victims of this.

01:24:33.000 No, the cops witnessed the crime in progress.

01:24:36.000 And so the police were the witnesses who said, we witnessed the crime in progress.

01:24:40.000 Yeah, that's interesting because police can't necessarily be independent witnesses of a crime.

01:24:44.000 You have to have a victim.

01:24:45.000 You can't just say, oh, a guy stole a beer.

01:24:48.000 How do you know if that person stole the beer or the store let him have the beer?

01:24:52.000 So police have to have their independent operator.

01:24:55.000 They cannot prosecute people.

01:24:57.000 Um, you can be, you can be a witness to a crime to a certain degree, but you have to have a victim of a crime to, you know?

01:25:03.000 I'll stress this point too.

01:25:03.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 These are really old stories from back when I was growing up in Chicago.

01:25:08.000 And as we learned with like George Floyd, you always learn there was something else that they didn't tell you about.

01:25:12.000 But I knew this one guy too.

01:25:13.000 And again, this guy, this is the one I knew personally.

01:25:15.000 He may have lied to me.

01:25:15.000 He was from, uh, LA.

01:25:17.000 He was driving to, uh, he was driving to the East coast and he had guns, legal guns.

01:25:22.000 He drove through Illinois.

01:25:24.000 Now you got the federal law protecting your right to drive, you know, to move.

01:25:28.000 Yeah.

01:25:29.000 Cops didn't care.

01:25:30.000 So he ended up being forced to live in Illinois for like four years because of the gun charges.

01:25:35.000 But I'm wondering what, so they pulled him over.

01:25:38.000 They pulled him over at some point for something.

01:25:40.000 So my understanding of what happens is, he's driving from L.A.

01:25:44.000 somewhere on the East Coast, and he gets off the highway to go do something.

01:25:49.000 And that's when they were like, ah, if you were moving and just passing through, you'd have been on the highway.

01:25:54.000 By getting off the highway, you're now in state jurisdiction.

01:25:57.000 You're in illegal possession of firearms.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, I'm not saying it's wrong or right, but these cases, send them to me, man.

01:26:03.000 I would love to review them.

01:26:05.000 I'll tell you, it's like, I'm biased because I've dealt with some of this stuff.

01:26:10.000 So I was driving on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago.

01:26:14.000 I'm exiting at Belmont.

01:26:16.000 I'm about 10 miles under the limit because I'm getting off at an exit and I get pulled over.

01:26:20.000 Cop walks up to me and says, you were speeding.

01:26:22.000 I went to visit my sister because my brother-in-law was stationed in Iraq and she was, you know, suffering from anxiety, just like, you know, and so I'm like, okay, I'll, you know, I want to get out of the city.

01:26:29.000 this or I can arrest you." So I signed the ticket. Okay, I guess I forget about it. I

01:26:33.000 went to visit my sister because my brother-in-law was stationed in Iraq and

01:26:37.000 she was, you know, suffering from anxiety. It's like, you know, and so I'm like, okay

01:26:41.000 I'll, you know, I want to get out of the city. I'll go to Colorado. Once I

01:26:45.000 came back two months later, I got pulled over and the cop walks up, he pulls me

01:26:51.000 over, he walks up to the window, he goes, are you Tim Pool?

01:26:53.000 And he goes, out of the vehicle, you're under arrest for driving on a suspended license.

01:26:53.000 And I was like, yes.

01:26:56.000 And I was like, what?

01:26:57.000 And he was like, driving on a suspended license, fills it out.

01:26:59.000 This is where I got eye-bonded.

01:27:00.000 He was like, if someone can come and pick up your vehicle and drive you home, I won't take you to the station, but you have a court date for, you know, what did they say, it was a Class A misdemeanor, up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine for driving on a suspended license.

01:27:12.000 When I went to court and I talked to the prosecutor and I was just like, I'm really sorry it happened.

01:27:18.000 I was in Colorado.

01:27:20.000 I was on Fort Carson.

01:27:23.000 I was at Fort Carson visiting my sister.

01:27:25.000 My brother-in-law is in Iraq.

01:27:28.000 But I had just gotten back and I was literally back from Colorado, a mile from my house, and he went, oh, so you confess.

01:27:36.000 No joke, he's like, oh, you confess to driving on a suspended license?

01:27:38.000 And I was like, uh, well, I'm just trying to let you know, like, I didn't get any notification.

01:27:43.000 He's like, ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it.

01:27:45.000 So if you want to plead guilty, we can talk about what your sentence is going to be.

01:27:48.000 And so then I was like, okay, I'll plead guilty.

01:27:51.000 And he was like, I'll tell you this, we'll give you $150 fine, court supervision, if you plead guilty right now.

01:27:55.000 And I was like, okay.

01:27:57.000 And then when I went up in front of the judge, he said, how do you plead?

01:28:00.000 And I said, guilty, your honor.

01:28:01.000 And he goes, and you know, do you state for the record or whatever that you were in no way coerced to make this plea?

01:28:07.000 And I said, no, I was coerced, your honor.

01:28:10.000 And he went, excuse me?

01:28:11.000 And I was like, I was coerced to plead guilty.

01:28:13.000 So what are you talking about?

01:28:14.000 And I was like, he told me that if I didn't plead guilty, I'd go to jail for a year.

01:28:18.000 And then the judge was like, come back in a month and get a lawyer.

01:28:22.000 Every lawyer I got said, it doesn't matter if there was a reasonable reason why you were driving.

01:28:28.000 It doesn't matter if it's a sympathetic reason.

01:28:30.000 It doesn't matter that you didn't actually break the law in the first place.

01:28:33.000 My license got suspended because if you get two tickets under the age of 21, they suspend your license for three months.

01:28:39.000 I wasn't speeding.

01:28:40.000 The cop gave me a bunk ticket anyway.

01:28:42.000 I had no means to fight that ticket because I was a bro- I think I was like 19 or something.

01:28:46.000 I was- no, I think I was- yeah, I was 19.

01:28:47.000 I had no way to fight it.

01:28:49.000 So I was just like, I don't know, and then I forgot about it.

01:28:51.000 And then after a certain amount of time, it went into, uh, I forget what they call it, where it's- it becomes a guilty plea if you don't respond.

01:28:57.000 And I had no idea.

01:28:59.000 I had no way to pay for a $75 ticket, and I didn't know that as soon as you pay for it, you're pleading guilty.

01:29:04.000 Otherwise, I would have contested it.

01:29:06.000 So I'm gone for two months, right before I get a chance to go home, before I got any mail, knew anything was happening, they said, you broke the law by driving.

01:29:12.000 Then they threatened me with a year in jail.

01:29:14.000 That's kind of stuff I'm, you know, so I- So, you were guilty.

01:29:17.000 Exactly.

01:29:18.000 I mean, you gotta say you were guilty, you were at fault, you were wrong.

01:29:22.000 Now there's a great- Now hold on a second.

01:29:25.000 I was legally guilty, but I did nothing wrong.

01:29:28.000 But I'll say this, and I agree with you, but at the same time, this is why I want to empower young people to know how to fight these things when they feel like they've been done wrong.

01:29:38.000 Because if you were not speeding, you have a right to fight that.

01:29:41.000 You don't need a lawyer.

01:29:42.000 I got illegally pulled over.

01:29:43.000 I only learned that after the fact.

01:29:46.000 You don't need a lawyer.

01:29:47.000 All you gotta do is go to court and the state has the burden, it's not necessarily the same as a criminal charge, but the preponderance of evidence is gonna be on them.

01:29:56.000 They have to show preponderance of evidence to cite you on a citation like that.

01:30:00.000 So you should go to court and say, I was not speeding.

01:30:03.000 I was on the off-ramp.

01:30:04.000 This is what I was doing.

01:30:06.000 The officer pulled me over.

01:30:08.000 But it's also things you could ask a police officer that if he doesn't say, he screws himself.

01:30:13.000 Like, how did he track your speed?

01:30:16.000 Was he doing a radar?

01:30:17.000 Was he pacing you?

01:30:18.000 Or was he somehow doing a visual estimate?

01:30:22.000 Well, so in this instance, after I think it was like three months, there was a deadline to pay the ticket, and my sister paid it for me, and that was a guilty plea.

01:30:31.000 It didn't matter at that point.

01:30:32.000 And I didn't know about the suspension law.

01:30:35.000 They said ignorance was no excuse for breaking it.

01:30:37.000 But I also didn't realize that by saying, okay, I'll give you the money you've asked for, I was effectively going to be committed a crime by trying to go home.

01:30:43.000 But here's the thing I realized after the fact.

01:30:46.000 When I was back, this was in Glen Ellyn, Illinois.

01:30:48.000 When I was back, it was like late at night, it was like midnight or two in the morning.

01:30:52.000 The cop who pulled me over, pulled me over illegally.

01:30:54.000 What he did was, he ran my plates, saw my name registered to the car, saw that my name was associated with a suspended license, and that was just his grounds for pulling someone over, but that's actually not a legal stop.

01:31:06.000 Because what if someone else was driving the car?

01:31:09.000 He didn't have justification for stopping the car in the first place.

01:31:11.000 Right.

01:31:13.000 That could be true.

01:31:14.000 That could be true.

01:31:15.000 Depending on the state and also depending on what he can articulate, right?

01:31:18.000 If he... Yeah, improper lane change.

01:31:20.000 No, but if he see your driver's license, if he see your driver's license, they have a picture of MBD driver's license, and the person in the vehicle look like you, it's very similar to you, similar characteristics, he can conduct an investigative stop.

01:31:31.000 Meaning that he has reason to believe that you are Tim Poole driving, he see you, he believe that you're the same person that matched the driver's license.

01:31:38.000 Some states prohibit this, but But some states allow it as an investigative stop.

01:31:43.000 He can pull you over and you've confessed.

01:31:45.000 I am Tim Pool.

01:31:46.000 Okay, well, my investigative stop was that I thought it was you, you agreed that it was you, and now you're driving on suspended license.

01:31:53.000 I've found that to be true.

01:31:54.000 This is the problem.

01:31:55.000 So my understanding after the fact was that he needed a legitimate reason.

01:31:59.000 It's like I ended up talking to lawyers or whatever, that you can't just assume somebody is driving a car because there's a lot of people who would look like a lot of people.

01:32:06.000 And, you know, I guess Chicago Law and Dairy has issues with this kind of stuff.

01:32:10.000 But ultimately, my complaint is, look, I get it.

01:32:13.000 Yeah, I broke the law.

01:32:14.000 That's a fact.

01:32:15.000 But we can't have the rigidity. 0.78

01:32:17.000 The system can't be this rigid where it punishes young people for silly things like this.

01:32:23.000 And to have some 40-year-old guy look me in the eye and say, I'm going to put you in jail for one year unless you do what you're told.

01:32:30.000 And I'm like, bro, is there no consideration for the humanity in any of these circumstances?

01:32:36.000 The answer is no.

01:32:37.000 I think it's the empowerment of the people, right?

01:32:40.000 It's our fault, to a certain degree, that we don't know the laws.

01:32:43.000 It's our fault that we don't know.

01:32:44.000 Because to be honest, we can all look this up.

01:32:48.000 This is why I think it's important to empower people to know this, because some people don't know they can't do this.

01:32:52.000 You can look up these laws and read them yourself.

01:32:55.000 If you go and get pulled over by a police officer and you say, well, what are my charges?

01:32:58.000 And they give you a charge.

01:32:59.000 They write them down.

01:33:00.000 You can go and Google in the state law, whatever, or municipality.

01:33:04.000 You can Google the law and read the statute.

01:33:05.000 And it says very clearly, this statute has to be met.

01:33:08.000 And if they don't, you're like, OK, I can defend myself in court.

01:33:11.000 Your honor, according to this statute, subsection so-and-so, this, this, and this.

01:33:16.000 I was not committing this, he pulled me over illegally.

01:33:18.000 The state has the preponderance of evidence to prove.

01:33:21.000 He has to prove more than 51% of the evidence that no, he was right.

01:33:25.000 In this instance, the problem I have is at no point are you informed by anyone that if you get two moving violations under the age of 21, they suspend your license.

01:33:34.000 They should inform you when you're getting your driver's license.

01:33:38.000 They don't.

01:33:39.000 Because then you have to go through and look at the laws, the driving laws.

01:33:42.000 You should review them and hopefully on your driver's license, you confirm that you have reviewed and understood the laws that are on the books.

01:33:49.000 By admitting to or accepting a driver's license, you are accepting the responsibility that you are aware of all the driving laws and you maintain a concurrent knowledge or an ongoing knowledge of the laws.

01:34:01.000 And if you don't, it's...

01:34:03.000 We need to be empowered because if we're not empowered, then we believe that it's an excuse to not know the laws.

01:34:10.000 And the judge is like, I don't care.

01:34:13.000 Like, why don't you look it up?

01:34:14.000 I don't have to babysit you and let you know.

01:34:16.000 You should look it up and know the laws yourself.

01:34:18.000 Or you can hire a lawyer or you can, you know, so it's definitely difficult, but we need to be empowered and take our position back of saying, I don't have to default to a lawyer.

01:34:31.000 Um, if I just read the statute.

01:34:32.000 Unless it's complicated.

01:34:34.000 I think the system needs, the system itself needs to default more to a libertarian stance of, alright we understand what happened in this regard, don't do it again.

01:34:41.000 Most of the time it's like that.

01:34:45.000 I would get furious at judges because they give people too many passes.

01:34:51.000 Now I'm talking about a traffic ticket, that's whack.

01:34:53.000 We would go to the court and people would lose those tickets and they'd just pay a fine and it's fine.

01:34:57.000 Or sometimes they win, they go, well, I find that there's not a preponderance of evidence or whatever by the state, you're not guilty or whatever, not responsible, not guilty is a criminal charge.

01:35:07.000 But when I would go to court, you're talking about going to court, They would let people off all the time.

01:35:12.000 I had a guy, I arrested him four times.

01:35:14.000 I arrested him four times in a matter of like a week.

01:35:14.000 Black kid.

01:35:19.000 One was a felony charge of four felony crimes. 0.94

01:35:21.000 Trafficking stolen property and a whole bunch of other stuff.

01:35:23.000 I had a 20-minute conversation with him.

01:35:24.000 A coming-to-Jesus conversation with him.

01:35:26.000 He goes to jail.

01:35:27.000 I'm thinking that he's gonna at least stay in there for a night.

01:35:29.000 The next day we get a call for service of a person pulling on doorknobs.

01:35:32.000 He's trying to get into vacant houses.

01:35:34.000 I recognize him.

01:35:36.000 I said, Hey man, and I'm just going to talk to him.

01:35:38.000 He gets spooked.

01:35:39.000 He runs.

01:35:39.000 He almost dies running the middle of the street.

01:35:41.000 He goes on a chase.

01:35:42.000 I had to chase him down.

01:35:44.000 We ran through somebody's house, through the house, jumped backyards.

01:35:48.000 He had all kinds of felony crimes he could have been charged with. 0.70

01:35:51.000 Um, and this is another story of why the lady didn't prosecute, and this is the dumbest thing ever, and I have to mention it, but I'll go past that.

01:35:58.000 Long story short, five misdemeanor crimes that he committed that day, which is after he committed felony crimes.

01:36:03.000 He goes to court again.

01:36:04.000 Like, two or three days later, I catch him in somebody's vacant house.

01:36:10.000 I didn't know it was him, it was a bunch of kids.

01:36:11.000 I go and I recognize him.

01:36:13.000 See him in there, run his name.

01:36:14.000 He has a domestic violence warrant after his arrest because he beat up his aunt and then knocked her windows out of their house.

01:36:20.000 So now I've arrested him three times for felony charges, violent charges.

01:36:24.000 He's fleeing the police and he, I think it was two weeks later or a month later, I saw him out of jail at a bus stop.

01:36:31.000 It's like, how on God's green earth do you commit that many crimes, and some of them are violent, domestic violence, and you don't even do a week in jail.

01:36:41.000 I mean, maybe a month in jail.

01:36:42.000 Problem goes both ways, man.

01:36:43.000 Some people are given a free pass, and some people are given the book.

01:36:43.000 That's it.

01:36:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:47.000 Yeah, and I think that more people get passes than the book.

01:36:50.000 People just don't think so.

01:36:51.000 I'll give you an example.

01:36:52.000 My family member, 70 years in prison.

01:36:55.000 How did he get 70 years in prison?

01:36:56.000 He shot two, three people.

01:36:59.000 Um, and he was in possession of illegal drugs because I had looked up his charges and he was a prohibited possessor.

01:37:05.000 He was already a convicted felon.

01:37:06.000 So he shouldn't have had a gun.

01:37:07.000 He shot three people and he was possession of a dangerous substance.

01:37:10.000 They gave him 70 years.

01:37:12.000 How many years do you think he did or he's going to do?

01:37:14.000 20.

01:37:15.000 15. 15.

01:37:15.000 How many say 20?

01:37:19.000 I don't like the idea that we just say, like, lock him away for a long time.

01:37:22.000 I think the idea is, like, we gotta help this person.

01:37:24.000 is a good thing. But 70 versus 15? Think about the people he shot. I hope he goes to hell.

01:37:33.000 I don't like the idea that we just say like lock him away for a long time. I think the 1.00

01:37:36.000 idea is like we gotta help this person. You know what I mean? I think so too. Maybe we

01:37:40.000 Maybe not if you're dealing with kids.

01:37:43.000 You probably should go to prison for the rest of your life. 1.00

01:37:45.000 Or you have legitimately raped a woman with force. 0.99

01:37:48.000 You should go to jail until she feels comfortable with you being out of jail. 0.99

01:37:53.000 That's what I think.

01:37:54.000 Different crimes.

01:37:55.000 Some crimes, lock them up, throw away the key. 0.89

01:37:56.000 I support execution. 0.95

01:37:58.000 I'm just afraid of executing the wrong people.

01:37:59.000 But same with throwing the wrong people away for a lifetime.

01:38:02.000 Right, too.

01:38:02.000 But, you know, like you said, some people get the bad end of the stick.

01:38:05.000 Some people, you know, they had appeals.

01:38:09.000 They were guilty.

01:38:11.000 They had opportunities at a fair trial.

01:38:13.000 They lost.

01:38:15.000 Now it's over.

01:38:16.000 Look, for all the problems, a lot of people don't realize we got a pretty good system.

01:38:20.000 Well, the problem is every human should read every law.

01:38:26.000 The flaw in the system that I'm getting is every human should read every law and understand every law.

01:38:32.000 Federal and state and local.

01:38:34.000 And then tomorrow, make sure you reread everything or at least acknowledge all the changes made to every law so you know every law at every moment.

01:38:42.000 And if you don't, that's a problem.

01:38:44.000 Even the people that sign the laws in the law in Congress don't read the bill sometimes before they sign it or vote on it.

01:38:51.000 See, that's a huge flaw in the system that we're going to need to address.

01:38:54.000 But I don't think you have to know all the laws.

01:38:56.000 Just like you don't have to know all the real estate laws, or whatever the case may be, because then you have access to counsel.

01:39:01.000 So people who are experts in it.

01:39:02.000 You just need to know the functional laws.

01:39:03.000 Like, maybe if you're going to speed, just know the speeding laws.

01:39:07.000 You know, if you're going to be operating a motor vehicle and you know, whatever you need to know how to function a vehicle, know the turns, know the basic laws.

01:39:14.000 If you're going to be murdering people, then you need to know the murder laws.

01:39:16.000 But if you're not murdering nobody, you don't need to know laws around murder or laws around aggravated assault or domestic violence or if you're not going to be doing those things.

01:39:23.000 But you can always read these laws and be informed as things pop up.

01:39:29.000 I think it's invaluable for people to watch these cases that go on in the court of law.

01:39:33.000 I used to watch court TV all the time, even when I was a cop, because you learn a lot.

01:39:36.000 Like the George Floyd trial, people should be watching it, not only to pick a side, but to learn how the court system works.

01:39:43.000 So when you mess around and be in court, hopefully not for murder, but when you go to court, you will understand the value of defense and the value of functionality.

01:39:52.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:39:54.000 Some questions from the audience.

01:39:55.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button, comment, because all that stuff really does help.

01:40:00.000 You're basically telling YouTube the show is great and you love it.

01:40:02.000 If you're listening on iTunes or Spotify, leave us a good review, give us five stars, and don't forget, go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we're gonna have an exclusive members-only segment coming up after the show.

01:40:10.000 But let's read some of these Super Chats. 0.92

01:40:11.000 We do have a bunch of people who are basically already saying that they're so stoked that B. Tatum is here, finally.

01:40:17.000 Thank you.

01:40:18.000 Yeah, we get messages all the time, like every night.

01:40:20.000 They're like, when's Brandon coming on the show?

01:40:21.000 Yeah, I get the same messages.

01:40:22.000 Like, when are you going to go on Tim Poole's show?

01:40:23.000 I'm like, hey, one of these days, we're going to cross paths.

01:40:27.000 Bee Wee says, Tatum time.

01:40:28.000 Yeah.

01:40:29.000 There you go.

01:40:29.000 All right, so let's try and find some.

01:40:31.000 That's one of my people.

01:40:33.000 There you go.

01:40:33.000 Oh, nice.

01:40:34.000 Is that your show, Tatum?

01:40:35.000 Tatum time?

01:40:36.000 It's just a person that follows me.

01:40:36.000 No, no, no.

01:40:38.000 I see the Super Chats when they Super Chat on my channel. 0.97

01:40:40.000 Sean Burrow says, today, I didn't have to decide who to watch.

01:40:43.000 Thank you, Tim and Bee Tatum.

01:40:44.000 Keep doing what you do.

01:40:46.000 Good show so far.

01:40:47.000 Awesome, thank you.

01:40:48.000 All right, Keith McCracken says, Long time, second time.

01:40:51.000 Do you think that there should be more incentive on trade schools and student loan forgiveness for said schooling?

01:40:56.000 I'm an HVAC tech.

01:40:58.000 In SoCal, I think high schools should incentivize trade schools over universities.

01:41:01.000 Love you all.

01:41:02.000 I absolutely agree.

01:41:03.000 I agree a thousand percent.

01:41:03.000 100%.

01:41:05.000 College is whack.

01:41:06.000 It's a money grab.

01:41:07.000 College is a farce.

01:41:09.000 You go and spend $40,000 and don't learn nothing, and don't do anything with what you supposedly learned.

01:41:13.000 In the past, the internet, no, I mean, now the internet's out, you really don't.

01:41:16.000 University's kind of excessive.

01:41:17.000 No, you don't, you can buy books, like you wanna know about finances,

01:41:19.000 buy books from financial people who are successful.

01:41:22.000 You know, Dave Ramsey have stuff.

01:41:24.000 Like, it's like credit karma.

01:41:26.000 And I'm not trying to, you know, I'm giving them a boost right here, but I don't know much about credit, but I was able to build my credit score over 800 just using credit karma.

01:41:32.000 Wow!

01:41:33.000 I just, all I do is look at the things that they say is wrong.

01:41:36.000 It's free.

01:41:37.000 And I say, well, I'm gonna fix these things.

01:41:38.000 And then, you know, I Google a few things and listen to a few people and I'm able to build my credit.

01:41:41.000 So, I didn't need to go to school for that and pay $40,000 and have somebody, you know, tell me about feminist studies and Black Lives Matter and then tell me about finances.

01:41:50.000 Yeah.

01:41:50.000 I didn't need it.

01:41:51.000 Alright, CriticalSixGames says, Can you give my vet buddies Twitch a shoutout?

01:41:54.000 It's OZ underscore rebel.

01:41:56.000 We play Warhammer 40k and talk about lore.

01:41:59.000 We're on most nights after 8.

01:42:00.000 I main Eldar.

01:42:02.000 Ian's the best.

01:42:02.000 Love the show.

01:42:03.000 Trevor's the worst.

01:42:04.000 Trevor!

01:42:05.000 We gotta be nice to Trevor.

01:42:06.000 Trevor, I love you.

01:42:07.000 I wanna hear Trevor's story.

01:42:08.000 Don't listen to the haters, man.

01:42:09.000 RisingUnderdog says, Steven Crowder took a knee to the neck this morning for the same amount of time.

01:42:13.000 He was uncomfortable but talked and breathed the entire time.

01:42:17.000 And they put his knee on his neck.

01:42:18.000 But did the dude have his hands in his pockets?

01:42:20.000 I don't know.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, but the thing is, and I don't want people to get superfluous about it, but the question is, did the knee on the neck cause George Floyd to go into a cardiac arrest?

01:42:31.000 So if Steven Crowder was high on drugs and had a knee on his neck, would it have caused him to go into cardiac arrest?

01:42:38.000 Of course, a normal functioning person is not going to cause him to die.

01:42:40.000 He does have a cardiac condition, though.

01:42:42.000 He does.

01:42:42.000 He does have a heart condition, which if I was him, I wouldn't have ever tried that.

01:42:46.000 I wouldn't die over George Floyd examples, but I love Steven Crowder.

01:42:49.000 Yeah, he's red.

01:42:50.000 Uh, Captain says, you finally have a cop on your show.

01:42:52.000 Can you please ask Brandon about military gear that defund police keep talking about?

01:42:57.000 Because to me, it seems defensive only. 0.98

01:42:58.000 Oh yeah, these people are nutty. 1.00

01:43:01.000 Militarization of police is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. 1.00

01:43:04.000 We need that stuff. 0.98

01:43:06.000 And it's more than just running around with tanks and stuff. 0.99

01:43:08.000 That's dumb. 0.93

01:43:09.000 We need ballistic gear. 0.99

01:43:10.000 We need rifles.

01:43:12.000 We need armored vehicles.

01:43:14.000 I was on a SWAT team.

01:43:15.000 That stuff is all necessary, only to defend the public.

01:43:18.000 We don't just ride down your street in a tank, just looking who we gonna slap across the head.

01:43:22.000 A lot of it is handling these domestic terrorist incidents and critical incidents where people are mass shooting.

01:43:28.000 That stuff is, uh, we need that.

01:43:30.000 And people don't realize this, too, because I've talked about, you know, to a certain degree, the quote unquote demilitarization, but I would say my opinion changed a little bit when I had a conversation with someone on the show about the options police have.

01:43:43.000 So if you have a cop and literally police just have a 9mm or a revolver or a pistol, Well, when they get into a conflict, they have one choice.

01:43:51.000 I can shoot the guy, or I cannot shoot the guy.

01:43:53.000 And if they're facing lethal violence, or they're facing any kind of, you know, reasonable fear of harm, they can choose lethal.

01:43:59.000 If you give cops rubber bullets, if you give them armored, you know, personnel carriers, if you give them better armor, they can choose a whole array of things that prevent lethal force.

01:44:07.000 Yeah, and confidence, too.

01:44:09.000 You know, if you're walking around with a vest on, like I was, you're not overconfident, but you're pretty sure you can stay in the fight, and you don't have to panic or whatever if you're going into somebody's house, because you've got a vest on.

01:44:21.000 If they hit that bullet with a regular handgun and that vest that you've got, I mean, you can fight back and you can live through it.

01:44:27.000 It gives you a level of confidence, and when you have multiple tools on the belt, you can use other things than shooting people. 1.00

01:44:32.000 When you only have a gun, you either get your butt kicked or kill them. 0.97

01:44:35.000 When you have other options, you know, you can be trained in less lethal and de-escalation tactics and stuff, and they all work well. 0.99

01:44:41.000 Yeah, all right Christopher Westerham says I asked you this one Michael Malice was on maybe mr. Tatum knows something

01:44:47.000 about it Why isn't the state pursuing felony murder rule against

01:44:50.000 George Floyd's friends, Minnesota has the harshest I know it's that's a that's a that's a reasonable question,

01:44:57.000 you know, and I think it's because politics Thank you. That guy was clearly implicated in the crime

01:45:02.000 Why is the police officer and the police officer the only ones implicated in this crime?

01:45:07.000 When through this investigation, they have learned that he was a drug dealer, testimony in the court of law by witnesses.

01:45:13.000 He was the drug dealer who dealt drugs that led to the death of George Floyd.

01:45:17.000 And especially once they find out he died from an overdose and not the knee on the neck, the statute of limitations is not over.

01:45:23.000 They can still pursue charges.

01:45:25.000 They won't.

01:45:26.000 But they should.

01:45:27.000 They won't do it.

01:45:28.000 They should.

01:45:28.000 But they don't want the city to burn down again.

01:45:29.000 It's political.

01:45:30.000 Just like they paid George Floyd's family.

01:45:30.000 It's political.

01:45:33.000 How do you pay $27 million and we don't know who's at fault?

01:45:37.000 How do you pay $27 million?

01:45:39.000 And people don't understand this.

01:45:40.000 In the middle of the trial.

01:45:41.000 Before the trial officially started.

01:45:44.000 While they were doing jury selection.

01:45:45.000 Right.

01:45:47.000 Anyway.

01:45:48.000 All right, Stephan Morris says, Hey, Officer Tatum, have you had many encounters with sovereign citizens?

01:45:53.000 Are they much different from other types of people who resist arrest?

01:45:56.000 I haven't had many encounters with sovereign citizens, but we hear horror stories.

01:45:59.000 Just know that cops, when they do meet sovereign citizens, it's a biased interaction because sovereign citizens in the academy are deemed like the most dangerous people and they kill police officers at a higher rate.

01:46:11.000 They do not want anything to do with the government.

01:46:13.000 So police officers are Nathan Raynor says Derek Chauvin did not have his hands in his pockets.

01:46:19.000 that says sovereign or that you know free or whatever they write on the license plates.

01:46:24.000 Yeah. The interaction with police is very tense because we are told that they're going to kill us.

01:46:28.000 Yeah. Nathan Rayner says Derek Chauvin did not have his hands in his pockets. He is wearing

01:46:33.000 black gloves. Oh if that's true thank you for clarifying that.

01:46:36.000 Regardless, his hands were either in his pocket or on his side, and they weren't doing anything to help George Floyd.

01:46:43.000 Which, I'm not making an argument that he should have, but I'm making an argument that the optics were bad.

01:46:47.000 Have you ever known, have you ever done that?

01:46:49.000 Or like, just put your full, was it his full weight?

01:46:51.000 You never, you never, you never, like, unless you're dumb, you never put your full weight on, there's a tactic that you use, that you use leverage, you never put your full weight on the leg that's on the person.

01:47:00.000 Because as soon as he moves, you done, you fall over and, You balance the weight between your body, leverage, and the weight, a little bit of weight on him.

01:47:09.000 The thing is, is that you don't have to put much weight on a person because your knee across the clavicle or the upper back of somebody is so much more leveraged than they have face down on the ground.

01:47:20.000 You don't need a lot of force.

01:47:20.000 They do that thing where someone's laying down on their back and you put your finger on their forehead and tell them, try and sit up.

01:47:25.000 And as long as they're trying, they can't.

01:47:27.000 Have you ever done that to someone?

01:47:28.000 Oh, I've never done it to somebody.

01:47:29.000 Yeah, you just hold your one finger on that and they can't sit forward.

01:47:32.000 I wouldn't have you do it as a cop.

01:47:33.000 They can twist up, but they can't sit directly up.

01:47:37.000 All right, Christopher says, Tim, you've been challenged.

01:47:39.000 Professional BMX rider and YouTuber Mike Feed made a video wanting to check out the compound skate park.

01:47:44.000 His tailwhip variations versus your flip trick variations.

01:47:47.000 I'll bet on him.

01:47:48.000 That sounds great.

01:47:49.000 We'll look into him and maybe we'll have him come out.

01:47:51.000 We'll film a video in the skate park.

01:47:54.000 I'll be honest.

01:47:56.000 I certainly don't utilize the park to its full extent because I'm an old guy.

01:48:01.000 But get someone who's actually a pro or has a career in these sports, and we'll film some really amazing stuff.

01:48:06.000 So the venue stuff that we've set up in the external skate park, it's called the Grind Bar.

01:48:11.000 You can actually grind the bar.

01:48:13.000 We made it so that the bar where you walk up to get drinks is grindable.

01:48:16.000 I think you could pull it off.

01:48:17.000 It'll be real fun.

01:48:18.000 It'll be great.

01:48:18.000 We'll film it.

01:48:19.000 Skateboards?

01:48:20.000 You do skateboards?

01:48:20.000 Skateboard.

01:48:21.000 Yeah, I skateboard.

01:48:22.000 I've been rollerblading quite a bit lately because it's just... Like inline skates?

01:48:26.000 Yeah, inline because most people can't stand on a skateboard.

01:48:29.000 There's like two people in the house who can actually stand on skateboards.

01:48:32.000 Everyone else can inline.

01:48:33.000 So when I'm trying to get people to go out and use the parks...

01:48:36.000 Funny story, people have never heard me say this.

01:48:38.000 People don't even know this about me.

01:48:40.000 I used to do, when I was younger, I used to inline skate.

01:48:43.000 Oh, for real?

01:48:43.000 And my brother used to go to State Park.

01:48:45.000 He used to do bikes, and I used to have the inline skates.

01:48:47.000 My mom bought me $300 skates when they were young, and I really wanted to be like an X Game dude.

01:48:51.000 And then I broke my wrist doing a I tried to do a 520, I can't remember.

01:48:58.000 I said 520.

01:48:58.000 540?

01:49:00.000 X Games got rid of rollerblading a long time ago.

01:49:02.000 Too dangerous?

01:49:02.000 Did they?

01:49:03.000 No, just no interest.

01:49:03.000 It just wasn't popular?

01:49:05.000 Rollerblading was way cooler to me.

01:49:05.000 I used to love it, dude.

01:49:07.000 Really?

01:49:08.000 I could do a 720 off a ramp that's this high.

01:49:12.000 From the table to this high.

01:49:13.000 I could do a 720.

01:49:14.000 I had an ability to spin.

01:49:15.000 The thing is, I couldn't drop in from these big half pipes.

01:49:20.000 One of the things I want to do, too, is I've been skateboarding for 23 years.

01:49:25.000 Wait, no, no, no.

01:49:26.000 How old am I?

01:49:27.000 23 years?

01:49:27.000 22 years?

01:49:28.000 It's a long time.

01:49:29.000 Too old to remember.

01:49:30.000 And I've done, like, so much.

01:49:33.000 All the different flip tricks.

01:49:34.000 I've just basically done a little bit of everything.

01:49:36.000 Never actually done full vert, though.

01:49:38.000 But I want to get people to come out here who don't just skate.

01:49:40.000 I want to do more of that.

01:49:41.000 I want to get BMX riders.

01:49:42.000 I want to get inline.

01:49:43.000 I want to get scooters.

01:49:44.000 Give me a pogo stick. 0.97

01:49:45.000 Just, you know, because I don't want it to be about, I don't want it to be so rigid and boring.

01:49:49.000 I want it to be exciting and creative.

01:49:51.000 So if someone's got a pogo stick and they can do something crazy on a half pipe, let's do it. 0.70

01:49:54.000 That'll be, that'll be crazy.

01:49:55.000 That'd be awesome.

01:49:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:49:56.000 Dude, one day I gotta come here and put the skates on, man.

01:49:57.000 I haven't put them on since I was young.

01:49:59.000 I think I was in, I was young.

01:50:00.000 Don't get hurt.

01:50:01.000 Make everybody sign a waiver.

01:50:02.000 Yeah, I know, right?

01:50:03.000 I'm gonna sue you.

01:50:04.000 But no, I think it would be really rad to have someone do BMX.

01:50:08.000 So here's the thing.

01:50:09.000 The first thing I want to do is get BMX bikes, because everybody can ride a bike.

01:50:12.000 I show people we got some extra skateboards, and everyone's like, I can't stand on that thing.

01:50:16.000 Let alone drop in or do anything, but you can ride a bike.

01:50:19.000 The problem is I don't know how to make a bike.

01:50:19.000 Yeah, drop in is crazy.

01:50:21.000 So I like started looking online for like how to make a good bike and I just don't know anything about BMX.

01:50:25.000 Why don't you just buy the frames?

01:50:26.000 It's just not... I went to these web... I could buy a stock bike I guess like pre-build but those are like pre-builds are never as good as someone who knows that they're buying.

01:50:33.000 The thing about inline was like I went to a Rollerblade website and I just like clicked some things and pressed enter and then everyone's riding around having fun and they're getting exercise.

01:50:41.000 It's easy.

01:50:42.000 Yeah, we got an RC car, like a heavy duty one that we're taking on the escape pipe downstairs to get destroyed.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, we had to throw the battery away.

01:50:50.000 So we got this really expensive RC monster truck and we launched it off a two foot ramp and I got it.

01:50:56.000 It's cool because once it's in midair, you can use its four wheel drive by reversing the direction of the wheels in midair.

01:51:02.000 You can cause it to flip and change directions.

01:51:04.000 Oh, OK.

01:51:04.000 You can actually manipulate.

01:51:06.000 So I got to go up, stop and then do a backflip.

01:51:08.000 Landed perfectly.

01:51:10.000 However, the other 99 times it was bouncing around, smashing, and it's a LiPo battery, so it got smashed, and we're like, we better not do that, because it could explode.

01:51:19.000 It looked awesome, though.

01:51:20.000 So definitely, long story short, BMX dudes, inline skateboarders, we're gonna have a good time, and people are gonna do some cool stuff, and we'll film all of it.

01:51:28.000 It'll be fun.

01:51:30.000 Perfect, perfect.

01:51:32.000 All right, let's see.

01:51:33.000 Hunter Atkin says, Tim, I used to be prescribed fentanyl.

01:51:36.000 It came on a one by one inch translucent patch.

01:51:40.000 It is measured in micrograms.

01:51:43.000 75 micrograms an hour.

01:51:44.000 Patch lasted three days.

01:51:45.000 That's crazy.

01:51:45.000 Evil stuff.

01:51:46.000 Yeah, that's weird.

01:51:48.000 I try to avoid drugs at all costs, like even when it's medically.

01:51:52.000 Like for instance, I had fluid in my ears and I flew on a plane and I still haven't got my hearing back in two weeks.

01:51:59.000 So, but they prescribed me all this medication.

01:52:01.000 He just went in there, he said, oh, okay, I'm gonna give you a steroid, this, this, this, and this.

01:52:05.000 And I'm like, I'm not taking none of that.

01:52:07.000 I just, even though I paid for it, I just, I'm not gonna take that stuff.

01:52:09.000 I'm really reticent about non-plant-based stuff in general, but especially opiates.

01:52:14.000 And they are plant, a lot of them are plant-based, but like, opiates are hardcore, man.

01:52:18.000 I like to do, I like to do natural, as natural as I can.

01:52:21.000 Olive oregano, I use olive oregano.

01:52:22.000 Oh, it's so good for you.

01:52:24.000 I try to stay natural as possible, man.

01:52:26.000 The other stuff, I don't wanna get addicted to anything.

01:52:28.000 Nick8109 says most fentanyl is coming from China.

01:52:31.000 They have unusual laws.

01:52:32.000 They just change the compound by adding magnesium or something.

01:52:36.000 Ian, MDMA, molly, and crystal meth are completely different.

01:52:38.000 Yeah, they are.

01:52:39.000 But they're both methamphetamines.

01:52:41.000 Yeah, I know nothing about, I never arrested anybody with Molly when I was, it seemed like

01:52:45.000 that was more of a maybe a Southern thing or something with Molly. 0.99

01:52:49.000 We never even encountered Molly pills.

01:52:51.000 Rich white kid party drug?

01:52:53.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:52:54.000 Or if you're in the hood, you know they rap about Molly's and popping pills and that.

01:52:59.000 You know.

01:53:00.000 And then we say it's a disease.

01:53:02.000 People making decisions to pop Molly and all this stuff.

01:53:05.000 Anyway.

01:53:06.000 Yeah.

01:53:07.000 Alright, Toxoplasma Gandhi says, I have a rare painful obscure disease and a severe case.

01:53:11.000 I was put on OxyTens, which isn't anything.

01:53:13.000 Pain meds are regulated.

01:53:14.000 The problem is that they write old folk off a menu for a disc, and guys like me, nada.

01:53:20.000 Yeah, what he's saying, I mean, I hope I'm interpreting right.

01:53:24.000 He's saying that they just write prescriptions like it's going out of style for older people.

01:53:29.000 I noticed this, and I'm pretty sure you identify with this, man.

01:53:32.000 They just over-prescribe.

01:53:33.000 And in the pharma, the big pharma industry, I'm skeptical of them.

01:53:38.000 Because they give you something that need another thing that need another thing that need another thing.

01:53:41.000 And so you got a headache and now you're taking five pills.

01:53:43.000 And it starts with the food.

01:53:44.000 I rail on the sugar industry nonstop.

01:53:47.000 It's like the tobacco industry of the 50s.

01:53:48.000 They're trying to sell it to kids, get them addicted early, and then they try and sell you pills to lower your blood pressure because the sugar made your blood pressure go up.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, or ADHD and stuff like that.

01:53:56.000 And it's like, you know, I think that they overprescribe these things so they can sell Ritalin or whatever that... What's that drug?

01:54:02.000 Adderall.

01:54:03.000 I know grown people that take Adderall, but... Why is it that people get a quart of caffeine-laced soda with their fast food meals?

01:54:13.000 All that sugar gives, like, your body goes crazy.

01:54:17.000 And what happens is, I could be wrong about this, but my understanding is when you get too much sugar, your body diverts energy to getting that excess sugar out of your system.

01:54:24.000 So what you need to do is take a bunch of caffeine so that you got the upper and so the sugar is hurting you and you're drinking the stimulant to be active.

01:54:33.000 And then you're addicted to caffeine.

01:54:35.000 And then you have headaches when you can't go to... That's why I stay away from caffeine as much as I can because I don't want to get addicted.

01:54:41.000 You know, I know people that go to Starbucks every day because coffee right here.

01:54:44.000 They have to almost every night.

01:54:46.000 Or I just lay here for two or three days in a fatigue trying to get it out of my system.

01:54:51.000 I do drink coffee every day, but I don't have it that bad if I don't drink coffee.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, some people probably don't.

01:54:57.000 Do you drink natural coffee?

01:54:59.000 Yeah, we get this special organic biodegradable Keurig thing.

01:55:03.000 It's made of corn or something.

01:55:05.000 Some Berkeley coffee?

01:55:06.000 SF Bay.

01:55:07.000 SF Bay, I like it.

01:55:08.000 Yeah, it's really good.

01:55:09.000 And that's what you drink?

01:55:10.000 Yeah, also Krigler coffee.

01:55:11.000 Adam Krigler has his own coffee company.

01:55:13.000 Only the best.

01:55:14.000 Only the best.

01:55:16.000 Code Red says, on the parmesan cheese tip, when you're smoking crack and you run out, start thinking about all the pieces that you dropped.

01:55:23.000 Due to this, you start hunting for whatever's in the carpet.

01:55:25.000 In the carpet.

01:55:26.000 That's what he said.

01:55:26.000 Spin the gorilla.

01:55:27.000 Is that what he said?

01:55:28.000 Yeah, that's what he said.

01:55:29.000 He grabbed parmesan cheese out of the carpet and smoked it.

01:55:31.000 Man, that's a powerful drug.

01:55:32.000 I'm gonna give the gorilla a little spin.

01:55:35.000 It's too heavy to blow.

01:55:36.000 Manual spin.

01:55:37.000 Let's just pretend.

01:55:39.000 Okay, you got your spin.

01:55:41.000 Beautiful.

01:55:42.000 Get your gorilla. 0.87

01:55:44.000 Crystal Sparta says to Brandon about opioids.

01:55:47.000 Yeah, but what if you need that strong opioid because nothing else works to relieve the pain?

01:55:50.000 It's extremely difficult for my brother to get what he needs because of these yahoos that abuse it. 1.00

01:55:55.000 No, yeah, I agree.

01:55:56.000 And it's a problem.

01:55:56.000 I agree.

01:55:57.000 I mean, it's a problem with everything, just like food stamps and government assistance.

01:56:00.000 Like, you know, I think that in some places people need it.

01:56:03.000 You know, at one point in my life, I used it for three months and I got off of it to get to do something better.

01:56:07.000 But same thing with the opioids, because these nut jobs are out here abusing it and some of these organizations are just throwing them like candy. 0.87

01:56:14.000 Now people that really need it are not getting access to it because they got to jump through these hoops.

01:56:17.000 So I agree that that needs to change.

01:56:20.000 I really wish that we can get a hold of it.

01:56:21.000 They used to give soldiers morphine, like in World War II, particularly in Vietnam, and they'd come back from like a massive wound and they'd come back addicted to morphine, which is an opiate that would lead them to heroin and other opiates.

01:56:35.000 We got a big one.

01:56:35.000 Jonathan Galterini says, we should talk about how Biden says he will be signing executive orders on gun control tomorrow.

01:56:41.000 I only own one gun, but I love knowing that people around me have guns in Texas.

01:56:44.000 I feel safer knowing good guys have guns.

01:56:47.000 But I gotta read into this.

01:56:48.000 What exactly is executive order supposed to do?

01:56:50.000 Because I can't imagine it'll do much.

01:56:52.000 No, I have no idea.

01:56:53.000 It'll get struck down by the courts in five minutes.

01:56:55.000 And states are not gonna abide by it.

01:56:56.000 They don't have to.

01:56:57.000 You know, just like they have the sanctuary cities for illegals, you can have sanctuary cities and sanctuary states for Second Amendment.

01:57:04.000 We're in one.

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 Okay, so where I live, Maricopa County and another county, I think it's Pinell County, are fighting or they are sanctuaries counties

01:57:17.000 to where they're not gonna uphold or enforce any of these unconstitutional

01:57:20.000 second amendment laws. The ATF will though.

01:57:23.000 Yeah but good luck.

01:57:24.000 Yeah, they might.

01:57:25.000 That's the great thing about this decentralized United States, man.

01:57:28.000 Because in Chile, for instance, it's only federal police everywhere.

01:57:31.000 There are no state police.

01:57:33.000 If it's a federal thing, that's it.

01:57:35.000 The boot is on your neck.

01:57:36.000 Right, right.

01:57:37.000 There's no way they're going to be able to function with 300 million guns in households or whatever, 100 million rifles.

01:57:45.000 They're not going to be able to get everybody.

01:57:47.000 And I'll tell you what, this is the heel that I'll fight on.

01:57:50.000 This one.

01:57:51.000 So, I hope that they don't try anything like that.

01:57:54.000 Yeah.

01:57:55.000 Let's see.

01:57:56.000 N.O.

01:57:56.000 Jansen says, B. Tatum, do you know Donut Operator?

01:57:58.000 What's your opinion on him?

01:58:00.000 Oh, I don't know him, man.

01:58:01.000 He's funny, man.

01:58:02.000 I'm trying to get my videos like his, man.

01:58:04.000 You know, it's funny.

01:58:05.000 I thought about starting another channel inspired by you, Tim.

01:58:08.000 Oh, wow.

01:58:08.000 You got all kinds of channels everywhere.

01:58:10.000 I want to start another channel about diagnosing these law enforcement interactions and just giving it from a police perspective because you don't see that and most police officers that are currently on the job, they can't do that.

01:58:19.000 Donut Operator has a channel where he's doing exactly what I'd like to do.

01:58:23.000 His stuff is funny though, man.

01:58:24.000 That dude is funny.

01:58:25.000 I was like, dang, I'm not funny like him.

01:58:27.000 Because he had this one video where this dude He came in the house.

01:58:32.000 I think somebody had a knife or something.

01:58:33.000 The dude just boot stumped this guy.

01:58:36.000 And it was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

01:58:38.000 I think he kicked him so hard his shoe came off.

01:58:41.000 The cop kicked him so hard his shoe came off.

01:58:43.000 Which the guy deserved it.

01:58:44.000 I think he was like holding somebody with a knife or something.

01:58:46.000 Geez, wow.

01:58:46.000 All right, Christopher Skamra says, I love that you guys are entering into media production.

01:58:51.000 I'm a film producer and DP from Ohio looking to contribute.

01:58:54.000 I sent a message to Spin the UFO and the info email to hopefully start a conversation.

01:58:59.000 Would love to collab.

01:59:00.000 Definitely, but there's only so many people here so far, so it's going to be slow growth.

01:59:05.000 You know, if we were like a thousand person company, we'd be able to greenlit tons of projects.

01:59:09.000 Right.

01:59:10.000 But we're getting there and we're going to start doing entertainment shows, comedy shows, like we're looking at a sitcom right now.

01:59:17.000 Really?

01:59:17.000 Yeah, like legit just producing a sitcom because comedy is powerful and we need people who want to make fun of these woke weirdos and cultists and bring back comedy to like a sane normal place.

01:59:28.000 It doesn't have to be pushing conservatism or liberalism. 0.99

01:59:31.000 It just has to be regular people making fun of people who are stupid or crazy, you know. 1.00

01:59:34.000 Right, because ridiculousness is not political. 1.00

01:59:37.000 You're just a dummy. 1.00

01:59:38.000 Like, some of these people are just dummies. 1.00

01:59:39.000 I don't care what political stance you're on. 1.00

01:59:41.000 What people are saying is just absolutely ridiculous. 0.92

01:59:43.000 But I think it's great.

01:59:44.000 We need to win back the war on, you know, culture and comedy.

01:59:50.000 Jake Benoist says, Timcast already the best podcast out there.

01:59:53.000 And then you go and bring in the officer Tatum.

01:59:55.000 Please ask B Tatum to give us all a ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen and ladies.

02:00:00.000 Let's get into this.

02:00:01.000 Thanks for all y'all do.

02:00:02.000 All right.

02:00:02.000 I'll do it for him if you don't mind.

02:00:04.000 Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen and ladies, let's get into this.

02:00:09.000 I love it.

02:00:10.000 See, I gotta do my whole spew to do it right, but I think they got the gist of it.

02:00:13.000 I love it.

02:00:13.000 Right on.

02:00:15.000 Tilt Rod says, Sir Robert Peel developed a set of principles that would define ethical policing in 1829.

02:00:20.000 I believe these Peelian principles need to be re-examined and taught to our police forces.

02:00:24.000 Has your guest ever heard of Sir Robert Peel or these principles?

02:00:28.000 No, I never heard of it, never heard of the principles.

02:00:30.000 And this is what I would say.

02:00:32.000 I think that most people that want to criticize police, and it's good criticism, I criticize them all the time, that do a ride-along with a police officer or go and tour the police facility, know what police officers are being trained before there's commentary.

02:00:46.000 Because a lot of people say a lot of things about police, not talking about the person who's super chatting, but I've seen it come up where people say a lot of things about the police and they don't know anything that police do.

02:00:54.000 They go, why do they should be trained like this?

02:00:56.000 It's like, well, they are. 1.00

02:00:57.000 That dude is an idiot. 1.00

02:00:58.000 He was trained not to do that. 1.00

02:01:00.000 You don't shoot a person in the back.

02:01:01.000 We don't train to shoot somebody in the back.

02:01:03.000 Which case was that?

02:01:04.000 Walter Scott.

02:01:04.000 Walter Scott, that's right.

02:01:05.000 That was messed up.

02:01:06.000 What was that?

02:01:06.000 That guy went to prison though, right?

02:01:08.000 Yeah, he went to prison.

02:01:09.000 Let me say this.

02:01:09.000 Every cop that has done something wrong has been indicted, in my personal opinion.

02:01:14.000 Walter Scott was a clear example.

02:01:15.000 He shoot the guy in the back.

02:01:16.000 The guy had owed like $40,000 in back chow support, which I'm sure his baby mama probably wanted him to get shot in the back. 0.96

02:01:24.000 He didn't pay his child support.

02:01:26.000 He gets pulled over and confronted by the police.

02:01:27.000 He fights the cop, knocks the taser out of the guy's hand and takes off running.

02:01:31.000 So the cop, which is a bad cop and I hope he goes to jail for the rest of his life, he shoots the guy in the back. 0.99

02:01:35.000 No, actually I hope he gets the death penalty. 1.00

02:01:37.000 He shoots the guy in the back, which he won't but he should. 1.00

02:01:41.000 She's got a bag and he goes up and puts the taser on him and try to stage it. 1.00

02:01:45.000 And I think I think Walter Scott was an idiot too. 1.00

02:01:48.000 I mean, you got what was coming to you. 1.00

02:01:51.000 Do you deserve to die? 1.00

02:01:52.000 No, but you got what was coming to you and that cop should get a death penalty. 1.00

02:01:55.000 I'm not I'm I oppose death penalty. 0.99

02:01:56.000 I think you should get a death penalty. I think any cop like cops like regular people

02:02:01.000 Maybe you can negotiate But if you have a badge in a uniform on and you kill

02:02:05.000 somebody cold blood like that you have a heightened responsibility

02:02:08.000 You should get the death penalty, you know better, you know, I'm not saying I think the leftists would agree with you 0.90

02:02:13.000 I'm not saying a controversial shooting. 0.97

02:02:15.000 I'm not saying a George Floyd situation where it's a controversial death.

02:02:18.000 When you shoot a man in his back as he's running away, not a threat to others, you have no articulable reason, and you plant a taser on him, you have murdered him in cold blood with a badge on. 0.99

02:02:28.000 You should get the death penalty. 1.00

02:02:30.000 Wow. 1.00

02:02:30.000 That's my thoughts. 1.00

02:02:31.000 Trevor Brantigan says, I am Trevor.

02:02:34.000 So we've discovered who Trevor is.

02:02:36.000 Trevor has emerged.

02:02:39.000 Let's see, Crumbopulous says, First Superchat loved the show.

02:02:42.000 B. Tatum is the real middle class.

02:02:44.000 Needs to come on the show way more.

02:02:46.000 I'm inclined to agree.

02:02:47.000 Yeah, I agree, too.

02:02:47.000 Crumbopulous.

02:02:48.000 Well, you're always welcome, man.

02:02:49.000 Just live far away.

02:02:52.000 When I'm on this side of the world... Dude, this is great having you on the show.

02:02:56.000 I felt like we barely just got into... because talking about the cops and law is so important.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:02.000 And then you had another guest on here that didn't know what he was talking about.

02:03:05.000 We didn't even talk about no-knock wars.

02:03:06.000 No, really?

02:03:06.000 Having you on with some of the debate would be cool, too.

02:03:08.000 That'd be fun, too, yeah.

02:03:09.000 Get into arguments.

02:03:10.000 I'm gonna do it.

02:03:12.000 Yeah, just a debate.

02:03:13.000 We don't have to argue, be mean with each other.

02:03:14.000 Just a conversation would be really good for the people.

02:03:17.000 Not like, point to Brandon.

02:03:18.000 Point.

02:03:18.000 Not like one of those debates.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:21.000 All right.

02:03:22.000 Clay Pyre says, please make sitcom.

02:03:26.000 We got a plan for it.

02:03:27.000 And other things, too.

02:03:28.000 Comedy specials.

02:03:29.000 I actually want to just get a comedy special to be one of the easiest things we can do.

02:03:32.000 Because we know a lot of these great comics.

02:03:34.000 They make amazing comedy.

02:03:36.000 It is...

02:03:38.000 Look, comedy is just getting too close to woke.

02:03:41.000 Not everyone.

02:03:42.000 Like Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan, Ricky Gervais.

02:03:44.000 They poke fun.

02:03:45.000 Ryan Long, definitely.

02:03:46.000 I want more of it.

02:03:50.000 Comedy Central is just not, oof.

02:03:52.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:52.000 We need to make it sexy again, man.

02:03:54.000 Make comedy fun and happy again.

02:03:56.000 I'll tell you a quick story that happened to me, and people down days, they'll pee to bed and cry themselves to sleep.

02:04:02.000 One of my really good friends, he was a redneck white guy, and I'm an inner-city black guy, and we used to poke fun at each other every day, and we always tried to one-up each other.

02:04:11.000 He one-upped me like nobody's business.

02:04:14.000 In the briefing, every officer, you know, once a briefing, they'll bring food, so everybody takes a turn.

02:04:20.000 Guess what he brought food for me.

02:04:22.000 What did he bring?

02:04:23.000 Fried chicken.

02:04:24.000 He brought watermelons.

02:04:26.000 He brought grape Kool-Aid.

02:04:30.000 Something else stereotypical that he brought.

02:04:31.000 They were like a black person thing and it was the funniest thing ever. 1.00

02:04:35.000 He won all the time.

02:04:37.000 But people nowadays would be like, What a racist, he brought a watermelon?

02:04:40.000 I can't even bring myself to say collard greens because I thought people were going to call me a racist.

02:04:44.000 But they're delicious!

02:04:45.000 I grew up on collard greens.

02:04:47.000 They're amazing.

02:04:47.000 Every holiday we ate collard greens.

02:04:48.000 I never had them until I was older, but they're amazing.

02:04:50.000 You know, he's basically doing it because he's playfully ribbing you as his buddy.

02:04:54.000 It's funny to me because it's funny to both of us.

02:04:56.000 Racism and all this stuff, it's like whatever.

02:04:59.000 He's bringing up all these stereotypes that are funny to us because they mean nothing.

02:05:04.000 If you brought a watermelon here, like, hey Brandon, welcome to the show.

02:05:07.000 I'm not going to be like, I can't believe You know what I don't get?

02:05:13.000 Because of this, now all of a sudden it's bad to have watermelon or fried chicken.

02:05:19.000 It's good food.

02:05:20.000 Who doesn't love that?

02:05:22.000 I don't know a white person that don't love fried chicken.

02:05:24.000 I don't know of one.

02:05:25.000 And if you don't love it, you're not getting the right person cooking it.

02:05:27.000 That's just it.

02:05:28.000 For my birthday, I asked, no cake, give me a watermelon.

02:05:30.000 Put candles in the watermelon.

02:05:32.000 Watermelon is a bomb.

02:05:33.000 We used to put, and I know this is real ghetto, but we used to put Kool-Aid packs in the watermelons and put it in there and mix it in there.

02:05:41.000 Dude, that's smart.

02:05:42.000 I mean, it's not healthy.

02:05:44.000 That's why we got diabetes and stuff.

02:05:45.000 No, no, no.

02:05:46.000 I watch this video where they cut a hole on top of watermelon and then take a beater and put it in and mix it around.

02:05:51.000 And then it basically makes juice and they tap it.

02:05:53.000 You could put Kool-Aid in there, mix it up and make juice.

02:05:56.000 That's what we used to do.

02:05:57.000 And then you freeze it.

02:05:58.000 You freeze some of the watermelons with the juice on it.

02:06:00.000 Dehydrating watermelon strips.

02:06:03.000 I've never tried that.

02:06:04.000 What I used to do back in the day, me and Adam, we would take, you take cuts of watermelon and you dehydrate it overnight in the fridge.

02:06:11.000 You put paper towel on it.

02:06:12.000 Then you bake it for like 45 minutes.

02:06:14.000 Really?

02:06:14.000 And it feels like a piece of fish.

02:06:16.000 So it's like a vegan recipe for making a filet that you then flavor.

02:06:20.000 So you put like garlic, onion, and a little teriyaki on it.

02:06:22.000 And then we put it on a sandwich with cheese or something or, you know, vegan cheese or whatever.

02:06:26.000 I hope my wife is listening to this because I want her to make that for me.

02:06:31.000 It's like a vegan meat replacement thing.

02:06:32.000 Dude, it's an amazing consistency.

02:06:34.000 I'm not vegan, but I prefer vegan dishes.

02:06:37.000 You mix it in with meat dishes every few days or whatever.

02:06:40.000 You can eat the white part of the watermelon rind.

02:06:42.000 Tastes like cucumber.

02:06:43.000 Yeah, it does.

02:06:44.000 And if you eat a little bit of the red and a little bit of the white, it's like a new food.

02:06:48.000 Super good.

02:06:48.000 Totally different than all of them.

02:06:50.000 Really.

02:06:50.000 I wonder what the nutritional value is.

02:06:52.000 Probably really good.

02:06:53.000 I'll tell you.

02:06:53.000 Let me tell you something.

02:06:55.000 Talking about how everything's racist and how stupid it is. 1.00

02:06:58.000 We had Alex Jones on the show and he kept making this joke about Ishmael, I am a gorilla. 0.99

02:07:03.000 So we made these t-shirts that say, I'm a gorilla, right?

02:07:06.000 Now there was some big snafu where they got misprinted and it looked really, really awful.

02:07:11.000 I'm not going to get into that.

02:07:12.000 I'm going to get into this critique from the leftists who were like, it was already bad enough that you made the racist shirt to begin with.

02:07:18.000 And I'm like, yo, what's racist about a shirt where it's a cartoon gorilla telling you he's a gorilla?

02:07:22.000 Like, I don't understand how there's race in that. 0.96

02:07:25.000 Because they think black people are gorillas. 0.97

02:07:27.000 Dude, we're all descended from gorillas. 0.98

02:07:29.000 I'm descended from gorillas.

02:07:30.000 We're all descended from gorillas.

02:07:31.000 Ian, a shared ancestor.

02:07:32.000 The point is... A shared ancestor.

02:07:34.000 Gorillas and I have a shared ancestor.

02:07:36.000 This was the craziest thing because we had...

02:07:39.000 Who did we have when we were talking about this?

02:07:41.000 Was it... I forget his name.

02:07:44.000 No, no, no, no, no.

02:07:45.000 Did you hear gorillas live in a constant state of flatulence?

02:07:48.000 Because they eat so much vegetables?

02:07:50.000 Yeah, apparently.

02:07:51.000 Well, anyway, what happens is, like, when we made this, we thought it was a funny thing, like, you know, Magilla the gorilla, cartoon gorillas, it's funny, and it was a joke about, you know, Alex Jones.

02:07:59.000 And then these leftists are like, I can't believe Tim Poole made a gorilla shirt.

02:08:02.000 And I'm like, what?

02:08:04.000 That's crazy, dude.

02:08:06.000 Listen, it's the projection thing. 0.99

02:08:09.000 They are racist. 1.00

02:08:10.000 They think black people are monkeys. 1.00

02:08:11.000 They think black people can't use computers like Joe Biden. 1.00

02:08:14.000 They think black people don't have identification. 0.98

02:08:16.000 So they pitch it out there and they get mad at other people and hold people accountable to their own demons. 0.97

02:08:23.000 Most people don't look at gorillas and think of black people. 0.92

02:08:25.000 And actually, if you cut the hair down on a gorilla, they're white. 0.80

02:08:28.000 I mean, yeah.

02:08:29.000 I think of humans when I look at them, if anything.

02:08:31.000 You think of humans?

02:08:31.000 They look so human.

02:08:32.000 I mean, I don't think of black people. 0.99

02:08:34.000 I mean, I think of an animal. 0.99

02:08:36.000 Yeah, a critter.

02:08:37.000 You know, I don't think of... If I had to think of another animal other than a gorilla, I'd think of a human.

02:08:43.000 They look kind of humanoid.

02:08:45.000 They do look kind of... Listen, I don't believe in evolution from humans to... I mean, apes to humans or whatever, but I have to admit, That they do look creepily similar to humans.

02:08:57.000 We're all primates.

02:08:58.000 They do.

02:08:58.000 They look very similar.

02:08:59.000 So when I think about God, I'm like...

02:09:02.000 God, you really, I don't know if you were playing with us, but you really made monkeys look very similar to us.

02:09:06.000 Like, they're like one of the only species that look kind of like us.

02:09:10.000 You ever see, like, capuchin monkeys?

02:09:12.000 It's like, we're primates, man, you know?

02:09:15.000 All these different similarities.

02:09:16.000 It's funny watching, it's funny watching, like, capuchin monkeys or, like, other small monkeys because they just look like little people, you know? 0.84

02:09:21.000 Yeah, and I know some people that look like monkeys.

02:09:24.000 And they're not just because they're black, but they actually look like, they look gorilla-like. 0.99

02:09:29.000 Yeah, hairy. 0.99

02:09:30.000 See, that was racist.

02:09:31.000 See, but I said hairy. 0.99

02:09:32.000 Black people are not hairy. 0.93

02:09:33.000 It's a human race. 0.95

02:09:34.000 All right, we'll do a couple more.

02:09:36.000 ProbytheTank says, Tatum, if you want to get in touch with Donut, hit up his staff on Discord.

02:09:40.000 We can direct your messages to him.

02:09:41.000 Yeah, I'll hit his staff up.

02:09:42.000 I love Donut.

02:09:43.000 My guys keep saying, get with Donut, get with Donut.

02:09:46.000 Yeah, we'd love to have him on as well, man.

02:09:47.000 Yeah, you should have him on.

02:09:48.000 You should have both of us on one day.

02:09:49.000 Absolutely, let's do it.

02:09:50.000 Because Donut was a police officer as well.

02:09:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:52.000 He does really good.

02:09:53.000 You know who he is.

02:09:54.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

02:09:54.000 I love his stuff.

02:09:55.000 I just, I thought it was funny that you were telling that story about how you're going to get Donuts.

02:09:59.000 Yeah.

02:09:59.000 When the guy was like, arrest me, and then you have Donut operator.

02:10:01.000 It's like cops just ribbing it themselves in the stereotype of Donuts.

02:10:04.000 Dude, it's like, who don't like Donuts, though?

02:10:06.000 Do I put a uniform on and say I hate donuts all of a sudden?

02:10:09.000 No, I love them.

02:10:11.000 What's the donut thing?

02:10:11.000 Is it because there's a little bit of sugar for energy?

02:10:13.000 A little bit of carbs for energy? 0.97

02:10:15.000 No, I think that people normally drink coffee and donuts in the morning and generally police officers would have donuts and coffee back in the day.

02:10:23.000 That's just my theory behind it.

02:10:27.000 They were open.

02:10:27.000 Some of them were open early in the morning or late at night.

02:10:31.000 And, you know, I used to drive through Dunkin' Donuts in my patrol car, and it was hilarious because people, I saw them taking pictures of me, and I'm like, I don't care, I'm gonna get this cinnamon roll and get me a coffee before I start saving the world.

02:10:43.000 We'll do one more Super Chat here, it's the most important.

02:10:45.000 Clarence W. says, if you don't like fried chicken, you're wrong.

02:10:49.000 That's right. 0.63

02:10:49.000 You're racist, actually, if you don't like fried chicken. 0.63

02:10:53.000 It's actually different now. 1.00

02:10:53.000 It's not that if you associate fried chicken with black people, you're racist. 1.00

02:10:57.000 No, no, no, no.

02:10:58.000 It's that if you reject the good old home cooking of fried chicken, now you're rejecting.

02:11:03.000 How dare you?

02:11:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:11:04.000 But fried chicken is good.

02:11:05.000 I don't even think that's... I don't know where... Maybe black people started thinking that they do it the best because it's a Southern thing. 1.00

02:11:12.000 Barbecue is a Southern thing.

02:11:13.000 Collard greens.

02:11:14.000 Collard greens is a Southern thing.

02:11:17.000 I think that my grandmother cooks it the best now, you know, but I think people in the South think all kind of stuff, you know, gumbo and all this stuff.

02:11:24.000 It's a Southern thing.

02:11:26.000 Recently, we made cinnamon toast crunch shrimp, but then we made... Cinnamon toast crunch shrimp?

02:11:31.000 Yeah, because there was this big story in the New York Times about a guy who got shrimp tails in his box of cinnamon toast crunch.

02:11:36.000 Oh, really?

02:11:36.000 That sounds tasty.

02:11:37.000 And then somebody used it as a breading for fried shrimp.

02:11:41.000 And he made a habanero pineapple reduction sauce.

02:11:45.000 And I saw that, and I was like, no, no, no, no, dude.

02:11:46.000 Simento's crunch shrimp calls for a ginger sauce, a ginger garlic sauce.

02:11:50.000 And so we made that.

02:11:51.000 It was really good.

02:11:52.000 And then I was like, we got to make a Captain Crunch chicken.

02:11:54.000 Apparently that's a real thing, though.

02:11:55.000 People do that.

02:11:58.000 You take Captain Crunch and you blend it up into powder.

02:12:02.000 You smash it.

02:12:03.000 And then you use it as the breading for, you know, fried chicken.

02:12:05.000 That sounds like a peanut butter sauce.

02:12:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:09.000 But then we made honey nut Cheerio chicken with barbecue sauce.

02:12:12.000 And that was the best.

02:12:13.000 Because it's basically just like a honey barbecue.

02:12:16.000 I don't know if you guys are geniuses or you got too much time on your hands.

02:12:19.000 Maybe a little bit of both.

02:12:20.000 Not too much time on our hands.

02:12:22.000 Chemists.

02:12:22.000 Did you get it right the first time or no?

02:12:24.000 So when we did the shrimp, we actually burned the first batch because the oil was too hot.

02:12:28.000 But the second batch we put in was perfect.

02:12:31.000 And then when we did the Captain Crunch chicken and the Honey Nut Cheerio chicken, perfect.

02:12:35.000 I gotta tell you, man, it was so good.

02:12:37.000 Y'all should've.

02:12:38.000 Why you didn't make none before I got here?

02:12:40.000 I know, right?

02:12:40.000 That'd be good.

02:12:41.000 We made sloppy joes, man.

02:12:43.000 Y'all got sloppy joes?

02:12:43.000 Those are good, by the way.

02:12:45.000 From scratch. 0.69

02:12:45.000 What the heck? 0.69

02:12:46.000 I covered them, so they should still be good.

02:12:47.000 Yeah, you should definitely try one.

02:12:49.000 It's amazing.

02:12:50.000 Alright, here's what we're gonna do.

02:12:51.000 Now we're thinking about food, and it's not vegan.

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02:14:08.000 Brandon, you want to shout out anything you've got going on?

02:14:10.000 Yeah, mostly it's my story.

02:14:13.000 People that like this shirt, Christ's Privilege, you know, that's a great generator for us to do great things for other people.

02:14:19.000 We donated yesterday, it was Tuesday, we donated $12,000 to a young man at X4 Boys.

02:14:27.000 I don't know if you've seen.

02:14:28.000 He has a mentorship for young boys that he takes and he mentors them.

02:14:31.000 He actually took custody of a few of them, so we donated.

02:14:34.000 Like 12 grand to him, you know, people in the Super Chats helped us out. 0.80

02:14:37.000 But my store is one of the things that we use revenue to help out people on, and it's called The Officer Tatum Store.

02:14:44.000 The Officer Tatum Store.

02:14:45.000 Go in the store.

02:14:46.000 I think I was going to make a discount code for people on your show.

02:14:49.000 Did you?

02:14:50.000 Yeah, I did.

02:14:50.000 I actually did.

02:14:51.000 I forgot it, but I did.

02:14:54.000 You did it!

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02:15:04.000 You got a YouTube channel too, right?

02:15:05.000 Yeah, a YouTube channel, TheOfficerTatum.

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02:15:18.000 We're working to improve that.

02:15:19.000 We want that to be more excellent.

02:15:21.000 So you can find me on all of those things.

02:15:24.000 Right on.

02:15:25.000 I'm at iancrossland.net and you can just find all my social media accounts from there.

02:15:30.000 Mines and the like.

02:15:31.000 Thank you guys for coming.

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02:15:38.000 Great conversation.

02:15:39.000 Thank you for coming, Brandon.

02:15:40.000 Awesome.

02:15:41.000 Thank you guys for having me.

02:15:42.000 Definitely, man.

02:15:43.000 And we will see all of you over at TimCast.com in about an hour.

02:15:45.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 07, 2021

Timcast IRL - Half Chewed "SpeedBall" Drug Found With George Floyd's DNA On It w- Brandon Tatum

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