In this episode, we're joined by Zed Jelani, a freelance journalist who writes about politics and current affairs, to discuss the latest in the war on science, the rise of the "Getter" account, and more.
00:00:46.000Well, only a few days after this show, Joe Rogan posts that he is signing up for Getter, which I don't think he's the first person to make this jump.
00:00:56.000I mean, a lot of people were already on Getter.
00:00:59.000But many people immediately started setting up Getter accounts because you've got to have somewhere to go, and the challenges for Whatever the faction is that's not the left.
00:02:45.000I don't care if it's left or right, whatever.
00:02:47.000Now, for the most part, I think the establishment, be it establishment Republicans, but mostly the Democrats, They're going to be playing dirty.
00:02:54.000You know that they have allies in big tech.
00:02:56.000We saw what they did with the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:02:58.000They're going to be coming for everyone on this show.
00:02:59.000They're going to be coming for you guys.
00:03:01.000You're going to get banned for nonsensical things like saying, learn to code.
00:03:14.000Yeah, it's my second time on Tim's show and I'm happy to be here again.
00:03:19.000I've been a journalist for about a dozen years.
00:03:22.000I worked at ThinkProgress, The Intercept, a few other different outlets, and today I freelance and also I have a substack at inquiremore.com.
00:03:30.000I write about politics and current affairs.
00:03:32.000I follow a lot of the same issues that Tim does and generally try to stay on the beat of underreported stories and Sort of picking apart narratives, I think, that are out there that, you know, aren't factually supported and kind of getting, again, getting that news out there that I think that, you know, you're not necessarily going to see it on the CNNs of the world, so.
00:04:25.000I always love sitting down with Zedd, because he always has really interesting things to say, and he has, like, such a wide range of knowledge, so I'm stoked for this evening.
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00:08:29.000Gab starts building its own infrastructure.
00:08:31.000Getter may experience something similar.
00:08:34.000But at the very least, for the time being, if you get banned from Twitter, that's somewhere you can go and see many people talking about certain ideas.
00:08:43.000But I think coming into this year, the big risk is that if we have two separate echo chambers and people can no longer communicate at all, well then I think the divide in this country is going to get way, way worse.
00:09:27.000I mean, once you start censoring information, once you stop eliminating the people to even have a debate or an honest conversation, you're on the wrong side of history.
00:09:36.000And what Joe Rogan has done is he has Put people who have been censored in a way where their voice could actually be heard.
00:09:44.000They could actually release their ideas to the general public.
00:09:47.000And this is a huge step against the big tech social media monopolies.
00:10:17.000You know, I think something important to acknowledge here, I think a lot of people, you know, they look at these decisions by these companies and they say, well, they're private companies, they're behaving in They get to control who their users and their customers are, just as any store or any business organization would.
00:10:32.000Something people have to understand is that over the past few years, the government has increasingly leaned on these companies.
00:10:38.000You know, Democrats will bring these people before hearings, they'll bring up inflammatory content, they'll talk about this, and they'll basically ask the companies why they aren't censoring more.
00:10:46.000Now the government, of course, has various regulatory powers it could impose on these companies that could You know, cost them profit, they could reduce their market share, they could even break them up.
00:10:55.000And I think that a lot of what these companies have been doing over the past few years, for instance, what they did with the Hunter Biden stories, where Facebook and Twitter were throttling the story, making it difficult to even click the link to go and read the New York Post story about President Biden's son.
00:11:10.000I think a lot of what they're doing, they're doing that preemptively to avoid potential regulation from the Democrats.
00:11:16.000So it's not so simple as private companies simply making enlightened decisions, you know, playing hall monitor on speech.
00:11:22.000They're actually doing this with political aims in mind, in that they know that this party is in power in Washington right now, so they have to keep them happy.
00:11:31.000I think there were some Democrats who were interviewed about it, like Pramila Jayapal, who We're very much in favor of Marjorie Taylor Greene being removed from Twitter.
00:11:37.000They probably wanted them to go further than that.
00:11:39.000So I think, you know, you have to understand this whole thing's an ecosystem.
00:11:43.000It's not just a company acting in a vacuum.
00:11:44.000I mean, I think Facebook did a 24-hour suspension of Marjorie Taylor Greene almost immediately after Twitter removed her, right?
00:11:54.000I don't think big tech is afraid of politicians.
00:11:56.000I would say politicians are afraid of big tech, especially with the amount of money that they put into the lobbying business.
00:12:02.000I think they're one of the biggest lobbying efforts in all of Washington, D.C., and they control a lot of Power because they get to see everything that politicians do.
00:12:16.000You got Facebook literally knowing when you're going to take a dump.
00:12:20.000So if they know that, they're tracking and databasing all these politicians and probably have a list of dirty laundry against them and they could go to them and be like, hey, we know what you googled.
00:12:57.000You get the CNNs, you get all these networks being like, an insurrection occurred, so we must remove the current president from all of these social media platforms so he can't communicate.
00:13:10.000It's only proving to the people who don't like you, you're as bad as they said you were.
00:13:14.000If you've got people, if they're telling us that there's an insurrection, you've got people who genuinely think the Democrats and the neocons are like evil and need to be removed or whatever, and then you decide that the one person they do like, Trump, is going to be removed from public discourse, that just makes it worse.
00:13:34.000I think back to, I think it was George Washington, there was this, I'm blanking on the guy's name, but there was a conspiracy Do you guys remember this?
00:13:43.000After the revolution, America couldn't pay its debts, and a bunch of soldiers weren't paid.
00:13:47.000So there was some insurrection, and George Washington was like, no, no, no, no.
00:14:59.000He's discussing these things with other scientists.
00:15:01.000You can weigh what he says against other people.
00:15:03.000The truth can win out that way, right?
00:15:05.000Let's say someone's a huge fan of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:15:07.000Now they're just going to go watch her on Rumble or view her messages on Getter.
00:15:11.000They may not see someone debating with her, discussing with her.
00:15:14.000They might grow even more kind of closed-minded in that direction, right?
00:15:17.000They're reducing contact between people of different ideologies because they're just deciding that certain ideologies are verboten, that they're forbidden to be spoken.
00:15:25.000They're ending up segmenting and segregating people off and that may actually create more extreme echo chambers in the long run.
00:15:31.000And you know, I think That this, again, I think because of all the political considerations that are happening right now, I mean, these companies tend to be run by more left-leaning people.
00:15:39.000They have a more left-leaning government in DC that they are somewhat managing or dealing with right now.
00:15:45.000I don't think they think three steps ahead when it comes to a lot of this stuff, right?
00:15:48.000And I think Again, what you pointed out in terms of those historical examples, we've seen that many times throughout history.
00:15:55.000Not only with George Washington, who started after the American Civil War, there was a long process of reconciliation between the North and the South that wasn't resolved maybe for a hundred years.
00:17:03.000I think it's deliberate when you look at these echo chambers.
00:17:06.000They're not only created with censorship.
00:17:07.000They're created with the algorithms that promote people from just having their views regurgitated back to them by people who have the same political ideology and I think it's meant so we do fight each other.
00:17:19.000So of course, we don't really truly look at what's causing our problems.
00:17:23.000We look at each other and see that's the problem, our common man, our neighbor.
00:17:27.000We should go after him, we should fight them because they think not like me.
00:17:31.000And again, that type of ideology is absolutely fascistic and it's disgusting and it's something we need to fight back on as much as we can right now.
00:17:38.000Take a look at this tweet here from everyone's favorite CNN personality, Brian Stelter.
00:17:42.000He says, watch how this Twitter user mocks reporters for talking candidly about the trauma associated with the Capitol attack.
00:17:51.000I just quote-tweeted it and wrote, trauma.
00:18:05.000Okay, here's what you need to understand.
00:18:07.000If you are on the ground during these, like, riotous moments, it can be stressful.
00:18:13.000But, uh, for many of us, we've been through tons of them.
00:18:16.000I've been, you know, Brazil, I think, was one of the most intense.
00:18:19.000Thailand was probably the scariest, because people were actually killing each other there.
00:18:23.000But to say that in any way foreign conflict... Like, there are foreign war reporters and conflict reporters much braver than I, much smarter than I, who have traveled to many countries facing real dangers, who don't have trauma.
00:18:37.000For journalists in America who are not on the ground to be discussing their trauma over an event they did not witness, I think it just goes to show you how insane the whole system is getting.
00:18:48.000But I want to keep the subject on what's going on with the gutter.
00:18:56.000The newest MAGA app is tied to a Bannon-allied Chinese billionaire.
00:19:01.000Getter has existed as a Chinese-language social media network linked to Guo Wengui.
00:19:06.000It was unveiled as a new platform by Jason Miller on Thursday.
00:19:11.000They say, on Tuesday, Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese billionaire who runs a Chinese-language media network with Trump advisor Steve Bannon, posted a video on his site, GNews, reminding viewers to back up their social media posts on Getter, saying, I guess the site was going to get wiped or something.
00:19:26.000Two days later, Donald Trump's former advisor, Jason Miller, announced that Getter, a Chinese-language site for dissidents opposing the Chinese Communist Party, would soon launch as a pro-MAGA free speech social media platform.
00:19:39.000Now, I don't know much about who this guy is, all right?
00:19:41.000But there have been a lot of people concerned about the move together because of the association with Guo Wengui.
00:19:47.000I would like to show you this music video from YouTube, where it's only got 63,000 views.
00:19:52.000It's from October of 2020, and it's this guy.
00:20:13.000I don't know if this could be considered boxing moves, but he's been a big supporter of the Hong Kong movement, and of course he also hangs out routinely with Steve Bannon.
00:20:22.000Other than that, I don't really know much about him, but just like, you know, anyone, people should obviously be looking into Who's who and who's controlling what?
00:20:31.000Because again, when you're running a big tech social media company, you have a lot of power.
00:21:10.000There are a lot of people talking about Getter banning people.
00:21:14.000Banning, you know, like, America First.
00:21:17.000They reportedly banned the phrase, And I saw that and people were like, look, this platform is going to ban people the same as Twitter and all these other platforms.
00:21:26.000So I went on Getter and I typed in, did they really ban the word Groyper to see if it was banned?
00:21:30.000It posted and people responded saying it's posting, so I don't think that they did ban it.
00:21:34.000Maybe they temporarily did or something happened.
00:21:37.000However, their rules are the same as Twitter for the most part.
00:21:39.000Like, obviously not the community guidelines, but the terms where they're like, we'll ban you if we decide to.
00:21:45.000I believe Getter absolutely will be banning people.
00:21:51.000You can't have criminal images, you know, like, I don't want to get too explicit on what those kind of images could be, but Ian, who's not here tonight, has experience when he was working for Mines of having to go through these images, which are, like, many of which are explicitly criminal, and you have to remove them, and you have to ban the users.
00:22:07.000However, I think it'll go a little bit beyond that.
00:22:09.000I think Getter probably will ban people for You know, I don't want to say completely political reasons, but for fairly political reasons.
00:22:17.000I just think the difference is, Twitter is obviously a left-wing platform.
00:22:36.000The right typically likes to engage with the left and challenge ideas.
00:22:41.000The left generally prefers echo chambers where they're told what to think.
00:22:45.000Now, I know a lot of people on the left will say, that's not true, that's not true.
00:22:49.000We've already been through multiple iterations of this, where Jack Dorsey himself said, in 2016, left-wing journalists were only following left-wing journalists, but right-wing journalists were following both left and right-wing journalists.
00:23:01.000We've looked at the ground news bias charts on a variety of users, and you can see that
00:23:09.000people associated with the right get their news from either the right and the left, maybe
00:23:42.000And I think a lot of people are asking the question, what guarantees do we have that Getter will stand up for the principles of free speech?
00:23:50.000Obviously, if there's criminal speech, that's a matter of something that the authorities deal with.
00:23:55.000But when it comes to free speech, when it comes to political discussions, when it comes to even criticizing the CEO, will that be allowed?
00:24:02.000That's a very important question that needs to be asked.
00:24:05.000I think it would be interesting to talk to this CEO.
00:24:08.000I don't know if you'd be down to kind of have him on, but I would have a lot of questions and guarantees and make someone even sign a contract on air being like, I pledge to never censor free speech ever or I will chop off my left hand or whatever.
00:24:23.000I feel like a lot of these companies, they write guidelines and they write terms of service
00:24:28.000and they give them some wiggle room to in the future if they feel like they have to
00:24:31.000panic and censor or panic and start moderating things, they'll start doing it.
00:24:35.000Like Substack, for instance, I don't think they've really cracked down at all on basically
00:25:00.000That's like the most nebulous category, right?
00:25:01.000That kind of becomes whatever you decide it is.
00:25:04.000And so if you have that within your terms of service, I feel like you're kind of leaving it like a valve for yourself.
00:25:09.000Like if you feel like something gets too like toxic or too spicy, you can like flip that valve and you can be like, okay, that was in our terms of service.
00:25:16.000But the thing is they don't really define that, right?
00:25:18.000So like you don't know what their limits are or what they will.
00:25:22.000And I might have to be... Well, I'll just read it.
00:25:25.000Getter holds freedom of speech as its core value and does not wish to censor your opinions.
00:25:30.000Nonetheless, you may not post on or transmit through the service any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, indecent, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, pornographic, profane, hateful, Racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable material of any kind, including any material that encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise violate any law, rule, or regulation of the law, laws applicable to you or applicable to the country in which the material is posted.
00:26:03.000For example, this may include content identified as personal bullying, child abuse, attacking any religion or race, or content containing video or depictions of Oh, man.
00:26:27.000We reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse, to post, or remove any posting or other user-generated content, including private messages from you, or to deny, restrict, suspend, or terminate access to all or part of the interactive community at any time, for any or no reason, Without prior notice or explanation, and without liability.
00:26:46.000That sounds exactly, if not worse than, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, or otherwise.
00:26:52.000The point is, the people running Getter are the inverted political perspective, as compared to, you know, Getter is the inversion of Twitter, effectively.
00:27:02.000Same as Parler, those other platforms.
00:27:05.000All that means is, we're gonna have parallel political discourse.
00:27:09.000If you want to talk about right-wing stuff, they'll be like, oh, that's not hateful.
00:27:12.000And then on the left, if you talk about left-wing stuff, they'll be like, yeah, that's fine.
00:27:16.000Gatter is probably, in my opinion, substantially less likely to censor you for having his opinions, but they have the same rules, so keep that in mind.
00:27:24.000Yeah, it's very vague legalese language here that could be interpreted and used in many different ways, especially if they have pressure from the ESG, what is it, the EGS?
00:27:35.000No, the Environmental Social Governance score, ESG score, especially if they get pressure from kind of institutional powers or bigger players out there or advertisers.
00:27:45.000It's going to be interesting to talk to the guy who's running it.
00:27:49.000I would love to do that and I would love to ask more serious questions and again have some more kind of You know, things where we could put things on paper and have guarantees guaranteeing free speech.
00:28:50.000I mean, minds, M-I-N-D-S, it's always hard to say that word, mindes, because people think you're saying M-I-N-E-S, might be better, but a lot of people complain about their user interface being really difficult to use compared to, like, Getter or other platforms.
00:29:09.000I mean, it might be a matter of, like, there are people who talk about, you know, crypto technology and decentralization and things like that that will free people up to use these technologies.
00:29:19.000Like, you can't have, like, a giant signal group for, like, you know, a million people or whatever to make it a social network.
00:29:24.000But, like, people use Signal right now for, like, end-to-end encrypted messaging with each other.
00:29:28.000And, like, you know, there are technologies that you I don't know.
00:29:33.000I guess it's going to take a lot of building because up until I would say about five or six years ago, even the Silicon Valley ecosystem was fairly free.
00:29:40.000Like there was very little moderation or censorship in the Silicon Valley ecosystem up until I would say 2015, 2016.
00:29:48.000And so it's a new, it's kind of like a new problem that a lot of people are dealing with and grappling with right now.
00:29:59.000Do we all trust some other corporation out there?
00:30:04.000Or do we just go encrypted, go anonymous?
00:30:07.000It's such a crazy battle that we're even having to deal with a situation where scientists and members of Congress are having their voices censored in favor of multinational corporations with a criminal past they use this term misinformation which is like basically what they're trying to say is the other person is wrong and like you shouldn't be allowed to speak if you're wrong and i'm just like how can you have any conversation people are always disagreeing with each other someone's usually wrong about the facts that's the nature of human human dialogue with each other they might as well say pravda right that would have been more convincing for me
00:30:40.000Let's bring up this story we got from TimCast.com.
00:30:42.000YouTube and Twitter delete Joe Rogan's interview with vaccine inventor Dr. Malone.
00:30:47.000The interview regarding COVID vaccines and mandates was removed days after Robert Malone's Twitter was also suspended.
00:30:54.000So I don't think it was posted by Joe Rogan, though.
00:31:00.000Well, when Peter McCullough was on, he uploaded the full interview on his YouTube channel and YouTube took that video down, so I don't know if Robert Malone uploaded it on his YouTube channel.
00:31:09.000I think Malone had already been kicked off of Twitter by the time he went on Rodeo.
00:31:13.000Twitter, but as far as the YouTube video, the YouTube video was uploaded in full and then it was taken down, so...
00:32:06.000Maybe the Spotify algorithm was like, Tim, we don't think you actually want to listen to Joe Rogan, even though it's like the only thing you listen to on Spotify, so we're not gonna suggest it to you right now.
00:32:14.000But then I started seeing videos pop up.
00:32:22.000And then when they opened up Joe Rogan with Malone, it wouldn't load.
00:32:26.000And he was like, I can't get it to play, I don't understand.
00:32:29.000So I don't know if there's something going on.
00:32:33.000Maybe not, but I just gotta, every time there's an accident or a mistake, or coincidence, whatever, coincidence, it's only ever affecting this kind of thing.
00:32:44.000When people get banned, oh, it was a mistake, we didn't mean to ban you.
00:32:47.000Oh, yeah, but how often is our left establishment people getting banned?
00:32:51.000When that happens, I just scream, Illuminati!
00:32:53.000But again, it's also important not to jump to conclusions, but it's also, there's so many coincidences that always work in the favor of very powerful people.
00:33:48.000Robert Malone, I don't know the exact numbers.
00:33:50.000And again, we're talking about... It's not unlikely.
00:33:54.000It's very likely, especially with all the news and buzz.
00:33:57.000Look, we've seen all of these stories about Spotify going after, like, Spotify employees demanding Joe Rogan be, like, banned or removed and they won't do it.
00:34:06.000So, is it absurd then to think that these employees have just, you know, put their thumb on the scale a little bit?
00:34:23.000He's sitting in his office and they're all like, hey, we need you to, you know, update that form, you know, internally to make sure, you know, the Joe Rogan show is going to publish on time.
00:35:29.000And yet the company had to go through like, you know, crisis mode internally.
00:35:33.000I, you know, I, from what I understand, it was quite intense, uh, within that environment, because I think that unfortunately in a lot of these environments, they are not, um, You know, they've inverted the leadership.
00:35:45.000It's kind of ruled by the angry or fearful minority, right?
00:35:48.000It's not that the CEO tells the junior staffer, hey, we're a company about, you know, putting out these products that people want to watch and want to see, and you don't have a veto over them.
00:35:59.000I feel like with YouTube and Twitter, Facebook, et cetera, they got the opposite message from Uncle Ben dying, you know?
00:36:07.000You guys know Uncle Ben, he said, you know, he's like, with great power comes great responsibility, and Peter's like, I'll be here from now on!
00:36:14.000So, you know, Facebook was like, we have all of this power, but we'll be damned if we want to take responsibility for anything.
00:36:20.000That's Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, it's all of Silicon Valley.
00:36:23.000What they don't, first of all, there is political, there's a political agenda.
00:36:28.000But there's also cowardice in these companies.
00:36:30.000And when it comes to a lot of the COVID policy, I think, for the most part, it is fear of liability.
00:36:37.000And there's no liability when you're like, hey man, look, it's just what Fauci said of the World Health Organization.
00:36:42.000So if you get someone like Dr. Malone, who's like, for the most part, a lone voice, and he's saying things, they're like, someone's gonna sue us, and that's, you can look at a lot of their policies.
00:36:54.000So what they're basically saying is, if we just ban everybody who dissents from, like, the official narrative, you can't hold us responsible.
00:37:08.000We have this from the Atlantic, a smear piece on Dr. Malone.
00:37:12.000But it does say, it effectively says that Dr. Malone invented mRNA technology.
00:37:18.000They say his two studies from 1989, demonstrating how RNA could be delivered into cells using lipids, Which are basically tiny globs of fat which could be used as a vaccine or a vaccine delivery method.
00:37:30.000So whether or not you want to say he invented mRNA, I'll put it this way.
00:37:34.000of gene transfer according to Ryan Verbeek, a postdoctoral fellow at Ghent University in Belgium,
00:37:39.000and the lead author of a 2019 history of mRNA vaccine development. Indeed,
00:37:43.000Malone's studies are the first two references in Verbeek's paper out of 224 in total.
00:37:49.000So whether or not you want to say he invented mRNA, I'll put it this way, if like the first
00:37:54.000ever inception of mRNA technology comes from this one dude or his team, then yeah,
00:38:45.000And if anything, the information being provided here adds context and information and allows people to have informed consent.
00:38:52.000One of the things that Dr. Robert Malone brought up that I thought was very instrumental here, he didn't only talk about the profit incentives of Pfizer here, he also talked about bigger institutions, financial institutions, Like Blackrock he talked about the big financial systems ... that have a lot of egregious power that along with big tech ... are working in unison to stifle out any kind of questioning of ... their product that they're trying to get you to take.
00:39:20.000That is a scary situation because you're giving people God-like power and authority when you're able to censor information from the general public.
00:39:31.000And if everyone, everyone should know about this, and I think this is why we're seeing such a huge scramble of people be like, hey, this is absolutely terrifying.
00:39:38.000I need to move over, get away to a totally different platform where I could actually listen to another side of the story here, which is absolutely critically important.
00:39:46.000I feel like Joe Rogan's viewership is more now than when it was when he was on YouTube.
00:39:53.000I was wondering, you know, in question the larger move from YouTube to Spotify, and I think if he's able to have a better, closer relationship with Spotify, which it looks like he has, he's able to get away with a lot more.
00:40:05.000Because if he was still on YouTube, YouTube would have taken the videos down.
00:40:08.000YouTube is already taking the videos down!
00:40:11.000So this is one of the ways that he still was able to position himself In a way where these videos are getting tens of millions of downloads and views, but they can't be taken down by YouTube.
00:40:21.000This is, I think, one of the points of leverage that Rogan would have over Spotify.
00:40:26.000Spotify is a much smaller company than Google, right?
00:40:29.000Much smaller company than what Alphabet or YouTube can provide.
00:40:34.000Meaning that he's a much bigger asset to Spotify, right?
00:40:37.000I mean, they paid $100 million to bring him over, I think, was the deal.
00:40:41.000That was what I think Wall Street Journal reported.
00:40:45.000But you never know, because it could be like over 10 years, you know what I mean?
00:40:50.000But the idea is that he's going to be a lot of revenue for them as well, right?
00:40:54.000Meaning that whatever pressures they have within the company, whatever pressures they get externally from news media, whatever pressures they get externally from government, If he's making them money and they have their own infrastructure, he has a point of leverage over them.
00:41:21.000Where it's like, so normally when you exercise your muscles, the proteins will break down and then your body replaces it with proteins and it grows stronger or whatever.
00:41:29.000I can't tell you exactly how it works.
00:41:31.000But apparently there are some people that when the muscle breaks, it's replaced with calcium and just starts turning to bone.
00:41:38.000That's kind of how I feel things are going right now.
00:41:40.000Over time, when somebody like ages out or retires or moves on from a position, it gets replaced by an ideologue, an immovable object that creates rigidity and structural damage.
00:41:52.000That's why we're at the point now Where you've got, like, Spotify.
00:41:56.000Big company probably has a lot of money to lose, a lot of money to make, but you get a small portion of individuals who appear when a certain position opens up, or when a certain position, you know, someone moves on from it.
00:42:07.000The woke millennial types, or whatever, Gen Z types come in, and then just that one person, it's like bone in your muscle, all of a sudden you're struggling to move, you can't function properly, and the system just starts collapsing and failing.
00:42:18.000I saw that story, and I was like, it kind of feels like what's happening to our society.
00:42:22.000At a certain point, they may just put a feeding tube in the mouth of our culture, and that the government will just start subsidizing and funding things out of fear of collapse and economic failure, and then we're doomed.
00:42:32.000And then they'll give them a whole bunch of fentanyl, but that's my own personal perspective.
00:42:35.000But you made a very good point, because YouTube could afford to lose Rogan.
00:42:49.000I'll look at the small clips that he releases, but with the debates, with the people that Rogan had on, Robert Kennedy Jr., Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, having these important conversations, I can't miss it.
00:43:03.000I had to download the app, I had to sign up for an account, and I had to listen to it because it was the only way I could.
00:43:10.000And it's not just me it's a lot of disenfranchised people who are asking some serious questions that the government can't answer right now as the government has been caught time and time again lying putting their foot in their mouth and absolutely not telling the people the truth it's very evident right now especially with cases surging that all of their plans everything they did.
00:43:32.000So people are left with some serious questions.
00:43:34.000Rogan is helping those questions be answered by presenting so much data and information and letting them decide what actions and moves to make for themselves with informed consent like they should have had from the very beginning.
00:43:45.000Let's talk about how stupid all that cultural stuff is again.
00:44:34.000So Patton Oswalt posts this photo where he's like, look at me, I'm with my friend Dave, I've known him for so long, I'm so happy to be here.
00:44:41.000People started saying that, uh, you know, uh, he was hurting the LGBTQ community and things like that.
00:44:48.000That he doesn't understand the damage and the pain.
00:44:50.000So he takes this other photo on Instagram where he's like, he's got like a yellow notepad and he's writing down something looking pensive in front of the mirror.
00:44:58.000And he's just like, if I had known the hurt that I would have caused.
00:45:02.000And he's like, to think I would tell other people they need to, to learn.
00:45:36.000But it tells you what kind of times we're living in where a person who was friends with someone for decades is apologizing for taking a photo with them?
00:45:45.000You know what's funny is people started going back into Patton Oswalt's old stand-up routines and they found that Patton had made very like I would say it goes beyond just being transgressive.
00:45:56.000It was almost like mean-spirited jokes about transgender people, like far worse than anything that Chappelle had ever done.
00:46:04.000People started posting that on Twitter, like, oh, Pat, no, you're so embarrassed of, you know, Dave Chappelle and you were doing this.
00:46:09.000But I think that's part of the rhetorical move you have to make when you're in these circles and that a few years ago, if you wanted to be like a bully, you would be making like anti-transgender jokes or making anti-gay jokes or blah, blah, blah.
00:46:23.000Now if you want to be a bully, you got to be woke, right?
00:46:25.000You can still be like really hateful and like spiteful towards people and you can still basically be that bully, but you're going to have to do it in a different direction.
00:46:34.000I think that's what Patton Oswalt, he's orienting himself to where he feels like his Hollywood milieu is now, which is that, you know, Dave Chappelle is one of the most popular entertainers in America, but he may not be that popular among a certain subset of cultural liberals in Hollywood, right?
00:46:46.000The one segment of people in the news media Yeah, well, that all seems to be going away, I guess.
00:46:51.000Except for the fact, you know, Netflix keeps signing more and more deals with Dave Chappelle.
00:46:54.000Honestly, if you polled most transgender people in America, I think most of them probably
00:46:57.000wouldn't even have been offended because most of them were in good taste.
00:47:02.000And if you look at his routines, he makes fun of everybody.
00:47:04.000And most of those people don't get offended at it because they understand the purpose
00:47:07.000and role of comedy and levity in society, right?
00:47:10.000Yeah, well, that all seems to be going away, I guess, except for the fact, you know, Netflix
00:47:13.000keeps signing more and more deals with Dave Chappelle.
00:47:33.000If they book Dave Chappelle to do a headline, you know, major special on Netflix and they give him, how much, how much are they paying him?
00:47:38.000It's like tens of millions of dollars.
00:47:40.000An employee leaked the information to the general public.
00:47:43.000It wasn't like 25 million or something.
00:47:46.000Man, you know what, look, I know Dave's the best of the best, and it takes a lot of work to do these specials, but that much money for that much work?
00:47:54.000It's just like, wow, when you're good, you're good, right?
00:47:57.000But Netflix is thinking, we are going to gain more paying subscribers by booking this guy than we will lose over any outrage.
00:48:06.000The leftist outrage, the faux complaints, it's like 30 people on Twitter who won't stop talking and they convince people, like Patton Oswalt, he gets convinced, oh, everyone's mad at me because he got like 30 people constantly spamming him over and over and over again.
00:48:22.000Reminds me of that Family Guy joke where the guy's like, we got seven phone calls last night, which means 70 billion people are upset.
00:48:41.000He spends a lot of, I would say the past few specials, he spends a portion of the time sort of defending himself against claims being made against him, right?
00:48:49.000Which is not really where you want to be as a comedian.
00:48:51.000You want to focus on the jokes, on the entertainment.
00:49:19.000He doesn't try to make anyone hate anybody.
00:49:22.000But that's where a lot of these spaces are now, and that's why someone like Patton Oswalt feels like he has to apologize for a friendship with one of the most, probably one of the most popular entertainers in the entire country.
00:49:31.000But they made Dave Chappelle get serious, and that's what really kind of affected everything.
00:49:35.000And you bring up a small amount of people.
00:49:37.000We have to understand that these small amount of people have a lot of institutional power, especially when it comes
00:49:42.000to the corporate media literally promoting a Netflix protest, saying, speaking about it. But
00:49:47.000when you talk about something and say there's going to be a big protest here, there's going
00:49:50.000to be a protest here, you're bringing attention to it. Just to clarify though, when we're
00:49:54.000talking about a small amount of people, we're talking about, you know, John, you know, at John 96321
00:50:09.000But someone like Patton Oswalt, you look at his tweet about this, and he's just inundated with like, you can really only see maybe like 30 to 50 tweets or whatever, like unless you really want to scroll through everything.
00:50:50.000And there was a CNN article generated about this, right?
00:50:54.000There was actually a CBC journalist, a Canadian Broadcast Corporation journalist, who just resigned from her post.
00:50:59.000And she just wrote a substatic piece about why.
00:51:01.000And one of the complaints that she had was that, you know, you guys kept running these articles about how people find Dave Chappelle offensive.
00:51:07.000Why didn't we ever go to the vast majority of people who just like him and ask them what they think, right?
00:51:12.000The media may be a small number of people, but it is a powerful institution.
00:51:15.000And you know they're going to be writing articles about you.
00:51:17.000You know that someone's going to be taking issue with it.
00:51:20.000Even if it's a few dozen people at Netflix, it's going to be portrayed as a massive staff revolt.
00:51:23.000You know, that is a headache in and of itself.
00:51:26.000Imagine the narrative being that Netflix knows their audience doesn't like Dave Chappelle.
00:51:32.000That people are greatly offended and don't watch it, and they booked him anyway.
00:51:36.000That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
00:52:31.000But hey, look, I'm not interested in watching a show like that or watching Cuties.
00:52:35.000And if they want to keep doubling down on that stuff, I'm not going to be interested in being a member or subscribing to a platform like that.
00:53:02.000They want to hear stuff that lightens the situation.
00:53:05.000And when you're able to joke about issues that The establishment doesn't want you to talk about it.
00:53:10.000If you're able to joke around serious issues, you're able to, of course, make people relate to them better.
00:53:15.000You're able to, of course, get rid of a lot of the stigma, a lot of the hate, a lot of the negative energy around it.
00:53:20.000I would say comedians are absolutely crucial towards bettering society, bettering our discourse.
00:53:26.000And this is an effort to, as we were talking about earlier, destroy that conversation and to create more echo chambers.
00:53:32.000I feel like almost the way that comedy is getting around this a little bit is A lot of these networks are bringing in either foreign or I think maybe more cultural, you know, niche cultural subjects and actors and producers to produce a lot of the same stuff.
00:53:47.000Like if you watch some of the foreign programming on Netflix, I think you'll find much kind of racier jokes or much edgier, more risque material than I think what you might see in a Dave Chappelle stand-up.
00:53:59.000And I think part of that is that you kind of get an out, right?
00:54:02.000if it's like if it's a foreign produced if it happens to be international comedy
00:54:06.000or international cultures maybe these same subcultures of Americans in these
00:54:10.000companies and institutions and me to give it a little bit more of a pass
00:54:13.000right which is kind of funny like if you have to watch like a Korean drama to be
00:54:17.000able to like see funny comedy about topics that people want to be
00:54:22.000transgressive about but it almost feels like you have to do that sometimes
00:54:25.000There's a video on YouTube that we bring up every so often.
00:54:31.000It is from The Onion, and it is titled, Overcome Stress by Visualizing It as a Greedy Hook-Nosed Race of Creatures.
00:54:40.000It's The Onion and I can't even tell you what the jokes are about because I'm wondering if we can because it's on YouTube itself but it's a woman and she's like when you have money troubles visualize a greedy hook-nosed race of creatures and it's very obviously like a demeaning picture like a very disgusting picture of a stare like I don't even I don't even want to I don't even want to get into it I don't get the point is I think People understand the joke The Onion's making here.
00:55:29.000I mean, actually, it is kind of funny when you're making fun of it.
00:55:32.000Well, one show I really like is called Rami, and I don't know if you guys have seen Rami, but basically it's about, it stars an Egyptian-American who's also the writer and showrunner.
00:55:43.000And, you know, he lives in New Jersey and he has an Egyptian-American family.
00:55:47.000He's trying to grow up in the States with kind of these cultural clashes and like he has an uncle who's like very anti-semitic and like constantly making Jew jokes but he like he still loves them even though he kind of tells him that's like not right to do that but like yeah that's the cultural context you have to go to just to discuss something like that because like it's not openly like if the character was like white American or like Christian or something like they wouldn't be allowed to have an uncle who does that and like talk about it and like actually normalize it and let people like talk around their differences because
00:56:17.000You have to actually cast a character like that and have a showrunner like that to be actually able to approach these issues now because there's so much sensitivity in talking about cultural differences, right?
00:56:26.000If you watch some of those older shows like Good Times or The Jeffersons from the 60s and 70s, they openly talked about racial stereotypes of whites and blacks between each other.
00:56:36.000That's how they broke down a lot of the difference.
00:56:38.000Now it's just like you just have to say the party line.
00:56:41.000You break these things down by just beating things into people's heads rather than actually letting them be open about their prejudices and talking them through, right?
00:56:47.000I mean, you look at, uh, uh, Patton Oswalt as a person, and then you look at Dave Chappelle as a person, and I'm just like, I kinda know who I'd rather watch if I was given the opportunity.
00:56:55.000The, you know, the whiny crybaby who's like, I'm so sorry for all the pain, or Dave Chappelle who doubles down.
00:57:01.000Granted, he got a little bit defensive on his last special, for sure, but absolutely was like, I don't care!
00:57:07.000And I'm like, yeah, that's more appealing to me.
00:57:09.000Well that's why they're trying to get rid of him anyone speaking truth is is deemed as a heretic in this new kind of cult of woke and he's the one willing to speak the larger truths that a lot of people are thinking but too afraid to say and we're pretty far away from the days of George Carlin Richard Pryor and Bill Hicks but man.
00:57:27.000Did those individuals make comedy great make the First Amendment something that a lot of people stood behind and these larger ideas that they represented that they were able the effect that they were able to have on people was so important and I don't think enough people attribute them to the larger successes that we have as a country as a nation as a culture.
00:57:49.000Because of these individuals that stood on their principles and in some instances were even arrested for it.
00:57:56.000If you haven't heard of them, if you're someone who never heard of these names, look them up.
00:58:00.000Look up their old videos and be prepared to be astonished at the larger truth bombs that they were dropping on people that absolutely have awakened humanity.
00:59:06.000In the 1990s, Congress brought a series of people to testify and grill them.
00:59:12.000Some of them were the heads of labels for musicians and artists, recording artists.
00:59:18.000Others were heads of video game firms like Sega of America and so on and so forth.
00:59:23.000And, universally, what they would say is, like, this is our freedom of expression.
00:59:27.000We don't think that this is going to promote real-world violence or real-world misogyny, real-world, etc., etc.
00:59:33.000You know, this is a place that people go to escape, so on and so forth.
00:59:36.000Now, those very same firms, when they're grilled by Congress, when they're grilled by the media, typically they...
00:59:42.000Concede something right typically they back down or they try to appease the the opposition I think the culture of their response has changed a lot in the face of a lot of these protests and I'm not sure what the difference is between now and the 1990s, but you'll see You know, Tipper Gore, Bob Dole, Joe Lieberman, Bill Clinton, these people all going after these companies and the company's just responding that it's our right to be able to speak freely and, you know, it's entertainment.
01:00:22.000I mean, if there's something that's going to raise a couple hairs on your head, it's definitely the comedy of Bob Saget.
01:00:28.000So there's been a number of individuals.
01:00:30.000And I think the reason why we go to comedians is because they're able to talk about these issues that so many people are afraid to talk about.
01:00:38.000And there's not only a layer of controversy.
01:00:41.000People are also talking about Patrice O'Neill.
01:00:43.000He was also really just an amazing comedian.
01:00:47.000But they're able to You know, hash things out through a way that is bringing people together instead of dividing them.
01:00:55.000And if you want to push the divide-and-conquer agenda effectively, you have to get rid of comedy, you have to get rid of satire, because it's one of the most effective weapons against the establishment, against the ruling elite, against the very powerful, because if you mock them, you take away all of their power and all of their influence, and we need more mockery than ever.
01:02:03.000And now there's an expectation that all of these Republican-controlled states, because people were voting in their local elections, have set it up so that Republicans are more likely to win.
01:02:12.000Combined with the fact that we have a massive number of Democrats retiring, Fox News reports surge in House Democratic 2022 retirement announcements as 2021 comes to a close.
01:02:24.000They say a trio of Democrats in the House, Reps Stephanie Murphy of Florida, Lucille Roybal-Allard of California, and Albio Sires of New Jersey last week said they'll retire at the end of next year.
01:02:36.000rather than run in the 2022 midterm elections for another term in Congress.
01:02:39.000The latest news brought to 23 the number of House Democrats who are retiring or bidding for another
01:02:45.000office. We just got news that I think, who was it? Bobby Rush? Yeah, was it? Is also not gonna
01:02:50.000be seeking re-election. There's actually an announcement from a bunch of Democrats who had
01:02:55.000lost in 2018, who are gonna try and run again. Also now announcing they're not even gonna bother
01:02:59.000trying to run, even though they aren't in office. Something is happening. I think the Democrats see
01:03:24.000It seems like if the election were held next week, that would be the case, right?
01:03:30.000The question, I think, is can the Democrats instill some confidence on issues like what's happening in the economy, what's happening with COVID?
01:03:37.000I think Biden's Biden's mandate was basically normalcy, right?
01:03:41.000Can he create a normal political, social, and economic environment?
01:03:44.000And I think part of that is like getting past the pandemic.
01:03:47.000Part of that is getting past COVID-19.
01:03:49.000And I think there's people within his political party that really don't want to do that.
01:03:54.000I think they've inculcated a certain mindset among a lot of the Democrats on COVID-19 that it's just very hard to overcome, even though there are signs that I think the Biden administration is pushing in that direction.
01:04:04.000I don't think they're going to be able...
01:04:05.000Look, I hate to say I know what's going to happen.
01:04:59.000They'll make sure the country's economy is getting back on track.
01:05:03.000I don't necessarily have anything to say about an individual candidate.
01:05:06.000But I'll tell you, the Democrats ain't gonna do it.
01:05:08.000They have become the party of big business, massive corporate wealth.
01:05:12.000You take a look at people like Hasan Piker, who is one of the most prominent voices among progressives, and he supports the government mandating you be administered a private product from a massive, multinational, unaccountable corporation with no liability protections.
01:05:28.000And I don't care what the dude says he claims about You know, I don't care what his claims are about supporting universal healthcare and nationalization of Big Pharma.
01:05:34.000It's like, dude, you're sitting here right now telling us that you want the government to be able to mandate a private product to be administered to people if they want to engage in public accommodations, if they want to be able to use these things.
01:05:48.000I'm sorry, this is what the modern left is?
01:05:52.000He's one of the, if not the biggest, political commentator on the left.
01:05:55.000And that's what young leftists follow.
01:06:47.000And I'm like, these people need to be stripped of all power They are completely insane, and that is the Democratic Party and the Republican establishment.
01:06:56.000So, one of the things I noticed, one of the things I think the Democrats really should have done, and then I have a question for you, is they should have run on getting rid of Trump, because that's a pretty strong platform, and then the first thing they should have done is turned and said, we have to have issues that we're fighting for, not just stuff that we're fighting against, because that's not a winning strategy in the long term.
01:07:36.000I've long said that they're a chaotic and destructive force, the left.
01:07:40.000I don't like the idea of, I've actually been critical of those, it's critical race theory over and over again, because what's happening on the left isn't just critical race theory.
01:07:49.000That's why I like to say wokeness or something.
01:07:51.000It is, all of these things are just an amalgam of contrarian, I hate the other, that's our identity.
01:08:07.000Because if you watch, like, I don't know, Steven Crowder, one of the most prominent, independent, conservative voices, he's actually making arguments.
01:08:46.000I said that one of the most insightful things that I think I've ever heard a modern political commentator say is something Michael Mao said, and that was they thought that Trump was the river.
01:10:54.000I did some reporting on the election, and at one point I got a mailer from the Democratic Party of Virginia about Glenn Youngkin, their Republican candidate.
01:11:02.000And it was full of Trump quotes about Glenn Youngkin.
01:11:05.000It was just talking about how Trump has endorsed Youngkin, how much he likes Youngkin.
01:11:08.000Didn't say anything about the Democratic candidate.
01:11:10.000Didn't really say anything about Youngkin himself.
01:11:32.000And the problem is that that might work for the hardcore Democratic faithful, but a lot of those people in between The Wall Street Journal had a really good article about how Hispanics are now split between the parties.
01:11:43.000We had Ruy Tejera on our podcast on InquireMore.com, who is the emerging Democratic majority author, whose thesis has been badly misinterpreted.
01:11:52.000He was saying it's not true that just because America is going to have many more minorities, the Democrats are automatically going to win, because Hispanics care about basic bread-and-butter issues.
01:12:04.000They don't want a radical social agenda.
01:12:06.000You know, these are very middle-of-the-road type voters, and I think these middle-of-the-road type voters, you know, just being against one person for the rest of their life, Donald Trump, is not a motivation to vote, right?
01:12:17.000Getting things basically working in their lives is the motivation to vote, and the Democrats really aren't doing that when there's a permanent COVID emergency that they just can't overcome, right?
01:12:26.000And they have to either admit what they're doing doesn't work, and that they've wasted your time, or that it's over and they lose that emergency power, that fear factor.
01:13:22.000And then I look around and I see 20 people sitting down and I'm like, nobody's wearing a mask.
01:13:27.000Like, they're all sitting here, and they were like, well, they're sitting down.
01:13:29.000And I was like, alright, can I, can we just sit down?
01:13:31.000Like, there's a table literally 10 feet in front of us.
01:13:33.000And he was like, yes, but you have to have a mask.
01:13:36.000And I was like, but no one is wearing one!
01:13:39.000Like, there's, they're all talking, they're all laughing, they're all eating, and they're not wearing masks.
01:13:43.000But I wasn't, I was like, okay, no, I get it, we'll sit down.
01:13:45.000And he says, fine, but if you get up, you have to have a mask.
01:13:47.000So he hands us masks, we say, okay, no problem, I don't care.
01:13:50.000And then he's grabbing the menus to take the two seconds to walk us to our seat, when all of a sudden, behind the counter to my right, I hear someone yell, put the mask on!
01:13:58.000And then I was like, we're gonna sit down.
01:15:34.000AOC, you flew down to Miami to party with no mask on while saying that ending the mask mandate in Texas was gonna get people killed.
01:15:41.000And then you think Ron DeSantis needs tips?
01:15:44.000Yo, you're going down, you don't believe in your own policies, but the cult members in your state don't read, they don't pay attention, and they vote for people like you.
01:15:53.000Vote them all out, but I'll tell you this, if you don't vote in the primaries, you will get a bunch of neocon crackpots who the first thing they do is they go, now that we've been elected, we're going to stand by the mandate of the American people and re-invade Afghanistan!
01:16:06.000And great, that's exactly what the people want.
01:16:08.000But Tim, just really quickly, you don't get it.
01:16:12.000The masks work so well the first time, the COVID policies worked so well the first time, that we just have to do them again, okay?
01:16:23.000Well, I think you brought up a good point, though, in that the Republicans could fall into the same trap now, which is that they could see that democratic governance is unpopular.
01:16:30.000They could see the economic and public health emergency is kind of unpopular.
01:16:35.000They could ride that wave into power, and then they could just do nothing, right?
01:16:38.000I mean, that's kind of what they did in 2018 with health care, right?
01:16:42.000They didn't have a health care strategy for the Affordable Care Act.
01:16:44.000They were the dog running after the car.
01:16:46.000They were saying repeal Obamacare, repeal Obamacare.
01:16:50.000Once they got in a position to do something about healthcare, they didn't have any ideas.
01:16:54.000They basically said it's too complicated and they couldn't agree on anything, right?
01:16:58.000The question is, are they actually going to have a governing agenda or we're going to end up right back in the same place with parties trading places and not actually being able to resolve some of these things and move forward?
01:17:09.000Yeah, I have absolutely no hope in the Republicans.
01:17:11.000To me, they're going to be absolutely lame ducks.
01:17:13.000They're going to be sitting on their hands and they're going to allow a lot of these egregious behaviors to happen just like they did from the very beginning of this.
01:17:20.000So, to expect them to do something different is absolutely naive.
01:17:24.000Big tech monopoly lobbying has a hold of a lot of the big conservative base.
01:17:30.000They're absolutely futile to actually challenge the establishment and the few ones that do, They're the ones that get hit.
01:17:42.000Meanwhile, the progressives just run amok in Congress.
01:17:44.000So, you know, what's happening right now is also absolutely crazy when we look at the raw numbers, especially with people on Twitter making the case that, you know, there's huge numbers of cases in Florida going up and only concentrating on that and ignoring the fact that there's a lot more cases in New York.
01:18:01.000And New York, of course, represents the state that did the most.
01:18:08.000It's not an easy one, but I would end by saying you shouldn't have all of your faith, all of your cookies in that Republican basket, because you're going to be let down.
01:18:16.000Or just vote in the primaries and make sure you get rid of the establishment.
01:19:26.000I mean, they'll have to, they'll have to portray whoever comes next as worse than Trump, right?
01:19:30.000Because it's like, it's like you have a television series and they're like, oh, the next season is nowhere near as exciting.
01:19:35.000You know, it's going to be boring, actually.
01:19:37.000Like no one's going to watch it, right?
01:19:38.000They're using the same principles as like as like entertainment or infotainment.
01:19:44.000Which, you know, I think it's not even a choice between whether they really believe this or they don't.
01:19:52.000I think a really good, like, propagandist believes what they're saying, right?
01:19:55.000Like, I think a lot of people on the left have convinced themselves that democracy is, like, five seconds away from, you know, disappearing.
01:20:04.000That allows them to project that same image to the rest of the planet, I think.
01:21:01.000Well, okay, yeah, I thought it was a fun movie in terms of it being watchable, and actually someone I had worked with in the past, David Sirota, helped co-write it, so I'm not trying to be mean about it, but like, one of the things the movie really gets wrong is that, okay, so the plot of the movie, for those who haven't seen it, is that a comet is heading towards the Earth, it's gonna be there in six months, and the news media and politicians... Spoiler alerts!
01:21:26.000But basically, the arc of the plot is that the media and politicians don't take it seriously.
01:21:31.000Like, they don't really care that a comet's gonna head towards the earth and destroy everybody.
01:21:34.000And you know, I watched that and I just thought to myself, it doesn't have any bearing on reality.
01:21:39.000Because like, if there was a comet heading towards the earth, I think CNN would have like a comet hologram You know, I think they would have 25... They would have like 25 intersectional takes on the comet every day, like what the comet is gonna do to women and minorities.
01:21:54.000Like the media in this country is driven by fear.
01:21:58.000It's not always fear of stuff you really should be all that scared of, I would say, but like they understand that fear sells, that fear gets clicks, and there's absolutely no way that they will pass up the challenge of an actual world-ending disaster.
01:22:10.000By the way, climate change is bad in many ways, but it's not actually a world-ending
01:23:02.000We know that because that's what happened with COVID-19, right?
01:23:05.000Which was far less severe than a comet striking the Earth.
01:23:07.000So I just, you know, it's a fun movie.
01:23:09.000I think it was an enjoyable watch, but I do think that the writers kind of just missed it.
01:23:12.000Like that's, that's not the way the media operates.
01:23:14.000There's a meme I saw where it's the Wojak face all happy, and it's got the full political compass over the face, looking at the movie saying, wow, it's proving me right and making fun of my political rivals.
01:23:26.000Like, the movie made fun of literally everyone.
01:23:29.000That's why I thought it was alright, but it was obvious what the narrative was.
01:23:32.000The message was that climate change is serious, the scientists are warning us, and no one
01:23:49.000I absolutely believe that's the case, especially with COVID, especially with just how horribly the government messed up and how you would argue that every step of the way they made the situation that much worse.
01:24:00.000There's a lot of evidence to suggest that, but at a certain point, I think enough people say, hey, I'm just sick of this.
01:24:08.000There's only so many times you could lunge out and scream boo at somebody before they're like, Okay, this doesn't really work at all and I think this is why there is a victory that we're having here that we need to note and that is that news corporate news media viewership by and large has been going down by the years and it has continued to go down and I think that's a huge victory.
01:24:30.000And I think people are just getting so desensitized, so out of touch with it, or they're just going on Zoloft and other SSRIs.
01:24:37.000But there's also a small section of that.
01:24:39.000But the majority of people are saying, this is not scary anymore.
01:24:42.000It's like a Halloween ride that just, you know, loses its factor after going on it so many times.
01:24:48.000Yeah, it's a form of bias that probably all the news has, which is called negativity bias, right?
01:24:53.000They're always trying to tell you how the world's going to hell in a handbasket, right?
01:24:56.000At a certain point, why does someone want to sit there and watch that every single day?
01:25:00.000Even in the most trivial circumstances, you know, finding a woman in Central Park who's rude to somebody or something and putting the video on national news.
01:25:06.000At a certain point, someone's going to be like, why am I watching this over and over?
01:25:10.000Why am I getting this distorted view of the world?
01:25:12.000Why are they trying to make me miserable?
01:25:14.000I don't think that's it, because I think you can levy some of that criticism towards us as well.
01:25:19.000You know, we see things in the news and we highlight, like, wow, we think this is pretty bad and something needs to be addressed.
01:25:26.000To be fair, though, you know, if you even look at some of the stories we did over, like, to the start of the show, like Joe Rogan leading the charge to go against censorship is fairly neutral.
01:25:34.000Censorship is bad, but people fighting back is good.
01:25:37.000So we try not to be always very negative, but I think we're very negative.
01:25:40.000However, I think cable TV is driven specifically by editorial demand for negativity, which is, it's different from here.
01:25:47.000Like we have actual, we're just, we're people with opinions.
01:25:50.000Before we start the show, we sit down, I say like, Hey Luke, what have you seen in the news?
01:25:55.000And Luke's got a bunch of stories like riots are happening here or this happens.
01:25:58.000And then we'll try and figure out what we think is like the most important thing that we should talk about.
01:26:02.000What matters most to people in terms of what's happening.
01:26:05.000For me, I thought the Joe Rogan thing was big because such a big celebrity to push back against censorship.
01:26:09.000And I don't see that as a negative for the most part, kind of just is.
01:26:12.000But CNN, we learned this thanks to real journalists like Project Veritas.
01:26:17.000When you get that CNN producer saying that COVID deaths were gangbusters for ratings, they put that big old thing, death counter on the TV.
01:27:02.000And I think the difference between people sitting around talking about problems like
01:27:06.000we are and what CNN does is like CNN doesn't care if there ever is a solution to the problem.
01:27:10.000CNN is just there to tell you that everything's horrible and you need to be addicted to us to keep telling you how horrible things are, right?
01:27:16.000They're incentivized to make it more horrible because when they do, they get more viewership because of that.
01:27:22.000And I think this is in response to a lot of their coverage, which is, in my opinion, leading to some real life harm.
01:27:29.000I gotta tell you, man, you're constantly just watching what's going on.
01:27:33.000You know, people have asked me like, man, it must get to you sometimes.
01:27:36.000And I'm like, you know, it's not the news.
01:27:42.000When I'm reading stories about news, policy, worldly affairs, that's not a big deal.
01:27:47.000But when I read about Incessant behaviors, that's really... It's blackpilling.
01:27:56.000When you see, like, hey, we're experiencing the same problem again because people just do the same thing over and over again, it kind of feels like a human macro-level problem that's intrinsic to humans.
01:28:06.000Like, why do people in New York keep voting for Ocasio-Cortez?
01:28:52.000We've been talking about, you know, many of these cultural issues, the banning of comedy for five, six, seven years, and it just keeps getting worse.
01:29:00.000And at a certain point it's like, are people going to keep behaving the exact same way?
01:29:40.000No, I was just saying that, like, let's remember also, like, we're talking about this COVID emergency state, like, The world came together.
01:30:10.000We survived this much better than we have past pandemics, right?
01:30:13.000It's nothing like Spanish flu, so on and so forth.
01:30:16.000And I think that that's, like, a positive thing, right?
01:30:19.000Like, we can't get too down on ourselves and say that, oh, America reacted to this so poorly, you know, we're so stupid, you know, take the don't-look-up view of the United States.
01:30:28.000We can also look at the fact that we, actually, the average American did tons of stuff in response to this that we've never done before.
01:30:34.000A lot of us did kind of rise to some kind of calling, even if some of these policies were misguided.
01:30:40.000I'm actually fairly optimistic on where we're going in the future.
01:30:46.000I just feel like after seven or eight years of the same things happening over and over again, what I mean to say is the thing that's annoying and frustrating doing this job is that you hear the same stories on repeat, you know?
01:31:01.000And you just kind of wish people would learn and change their behaviors.
01:31:04.000But I think the issue is that humans are... Human civilization is emergent.
01:31:09.000It's constantly in flux with younger people aging and dying, and then younger people coming in taking over.
01:31:15.000So you end up with people like Vosch, for instance, who comes on this show and said he didn't know anything about the Obama administration because he was just a teenager.
01:31:26.000But now he's a major force in political commentary on the internet, not the biggest channel in the world, but he's fairly large, he gets a lot of views, and he's having a conversation about politics when he wasn't around for what Obama had done, and Biden as well.
01:31:40.000That makes it impossible for humanity to effectively learn, in a sense.
01:31:44.000And not completely, just in some areas.
01:31:47.000However, I do think that people are going to get to a point where they just slam the table and say, I'm mad as hell, I'm not gonna take it anymore.
01:31:54.000And that's why I think Democrats are resigning and retiring or planning to retire in huge numbers.
01:32:23.000Because it was like, they wanted people to have it stick in their brain.
01:32:26.000Anyway, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show if you really do like it, and go to TimCast.com, become a member if you want to help support our work.
01:32:57.000First superchat, I can't read your name because YouTube blocks it.
01:33:00.000It says, it's the establishment versus the rest of us.
01:33:04.000Yup, the problem is, when you have young people who aren't familiar with what the establishment is doing or has done, they end up supporting it, and then you're up against young progressives who are just brainwashed into thinking populists are the bad guys, even though they're somewhat populists?
01:33:29.000Devin Nunes is going to be running Donald Trump's social media, the Trump social platform.
01:33:34.000And my understanding is he believes that he will be more effective in helping get the word out and helping grow the Trump movement or just the populist right by working with social media and, you know, getting past all the censorship.
01:34:53.000There's like a video that I tweeted about, and it's funny, you know what I love?
01:34:56.000I love on Twitter, I just post like, it's all ish posts, it's all like just trash, garbage posts.
01:35:02.000And the funny thing is when the media takes the bait and runs stories on them, takes it seriously, I tweeted, Rachel Maddow should be banned for this.
01:35:47.000I thought you were talking about Lost.
01:35:49.000Yeah, see, that's why I was saying, like, I don't think you knew what you were talking about.
01:35:53.000The Langoliers, they're sleeping in a plane, they wake up, and everyone's gone, and like their clothes are all there.
01:35:59.000The plane went through a rip in the time-space continuum, and they're basically, time moves forward, And the past is eaten by Langoliers, and they get, like, whatever the thing that moves time forward, they go through, and so they're trapped in a past where everything's frozen.
01:36:17.000And then they see the Langoliers start destroying everything, so they're like, quick, get in the plane!
01:36:21.000And they fly the plane, and then the dude turns the pressure down so everyone passes out again, and then the plane, they wake up, and they're back in reality or whatever.
01:38:03.000So when I saw that video, the photos of AOC at that event with no mask on, people were cheering for her and like dancing.
01:38:10.000And I'm like, who are these Florida Democrats that like AOC, who supports mask mandates and vaccine mandates, but are in a state where they don't have that, won't abide by those rules, which they could choose to do if they want to.
01:38:40.000Pioneer Smokehouses says, I was thinking a lot about what could trigger civil war, and I think moving voting control to the federal government could be bigger than pro-life issue.
01:40:45.000I think often Ian asks us moral questions that kind of break the echo chamber, and that's kind of the issue.
01:40:52.000I mean, it's difficult because obviously we don't want a bad show.
01:40:55.000If people are, like, you know, unimpressed by Ian's either lack of conversation or bad questions, then I would agree, like, it's an issue.
01:41:05.000But there were really good, there's been really great conversations that Ian, he's got views that many of us don't have, and it's good to have a different voice.
01:41:12.000I mean, Ian is for the death penalty, and he's like some hippie guy, and it's... He has interesting views.
01:41:18.000Yeah, but he's also asked us stuff that we don't normally think about, which I think is a good thing.
01:41:22.000He asked us, you know, we oppose the mandates, but would we oppose mandates for, like, if there was an Ebola going around?
01:41:27.000And I'm like, that's a good question, because, like, if you really think about it, what is it called, hemorrhagic fever?
01:41:33.000Hemorrhagic fever, where you, like, bleed internally from the fever.
01:41:37.000Like, if people were just walking around, their eyes started bleeding and they vomited blood and collapsed, I might be a little more like, I'm not going outside ever again!
01:42:31.000You know, I think I'd still be against it though.
01:42:32.000I think, you know, we thought, we talked about it.
01:42:35.000I think I'd still be against it because it would self-regulate.
01:42:38.000If people were genuinely witnessing this stuff, they would absolutely, everyone would self-isolate.
01:42:43.000Yeah, you'd need no need, there'd be no need for this like intense policy or anything.
01:42:46.000Soon as the government says, don't do this, there's going to be a bunch of people who are going to want to do something like people need to have personal responsibility, act on their own wills and understand that the government is never going to come in and save you.
01:42:56.000This naive belief that the government's going to help you or watch out for you is absolutely idiotic.
01:43:01.000It has almost never happened in recorded human history.
01:43:04.000And the more you believe in the idea, the more of the fairytale you put into that, give that power, the more you let yourself down and put yourself in danger.
01:43:13.000All right, Planet says, Bannon's show plays the video on the Out2 commercial all the time.
01:43:21.000I don't know who this guy is, other than there's been some stories about him, like, he's, I guess he's like, what, he funds right-wing groups or something, or like right-wing projects?
01:44:01.000They tell everybody you've got to get a negative test if you want to do X, Y, or Z. Many people are like, I want to make sure I get tested before I see grandma.
01:44:24.000So one of the things that someone was pointing out, I forget where I heard this, but I guess if you say that you have a positive COVID test, you don't have to come into work.
01:44:42.000Um, well, I think I asked for this, but we got a ton of super chats about the Langoliers.
01:44:47.000Maybe I should just do that in the beginning of every show, like make a movie reference because then people super chat and it's good for the show.
01:45:10.000You should always be skeptical of everyone.
01:45:11.000And just because someone's on your side or someone has the same beliefs as you doesn't mean that they're always going to be correct and honest and upfront.
01:45:23.000I think he was also instrumental in bringing up a lot of the roundup important court legal cases that are happening right now.
01:45:31.000So for me, he's done a lot of good work and I always try to judge a person by the fruits of their labors and there's a lot of fruit, a lot of positivity and a lot of good things that were brought on by this man.
01:45:47.000About the assertions made about the real Anthony Fauci, I think there's a reason why it's one of the number one books on Amazon.
01:45:53.000I think it's very thought-provoking and it's providing people a perspective of Dr. Fauci that is the complete opposite of what the media has portrayed him as.
01:46:01.000But if you want to be completely intellectually honest, you look at both perspectives, you make up your own decision after hearing them out, and then look at what evidence suggests to be the truth.
01:46:10.000And that should be the side that you should be on no matter what.
01:46:13.000Alright, McChilla says, winning the fight against mandates is our last chance at a non-violent resolution to get our freedoms back.
01:46:19.000We've got to start winning local battles.
01:46:21.000I went in to pick up a to-go order and was turned away because I refused to wear a mask.
01:47:04.000They did this very famous stunt where they cloned a Dow Chemical website and then I think it was the BBC emailed the fake website saying we want to get someone to come on and speak about the Bhopal disaster where there's like a major chemical spill in India.
01:47:20.000And then the activist goes on TV pretending to be from this major chemical company and then says, we hereby take full responsibility for the disaster.
01:47:32.000We will be liquidating union carbide to pay for all of the damages and everyone.
01:47:38.000And then I was like, no, no, we do not accept.
01:47:40.000And it was like that serious culture jam.
01:47:42.000Well, they said they will, they would be compensating the victims in this particular case, which made the stock go down dramatically and have the company issue a public, uh, announcement saying, no, no, no, no, no.
01:47:55.000The victims here are not going to be compensated, which put them in a very difficult space.
01:48:01.000And, uh, I remember that, that moment.
01:48:05.000It was very, very big and showed you what impact you can make.
01:48:08.000So I'm thinking about that kind of stuff, you know?
01:48:11.000And I had some ideas, like, what would happen if you went to a business that was, like, enforcing mandates and just hired someone to hold a sign in front of the business that said, sorry, we're closed?
01:48:22.000Like, make no reference at all to the business.
01:48:24.000Make no reference at all to any mandates or any political statements.
01:48:27.000You just hire a guy to be like, stand right here, hold up a sign saying, sorry, we're closed.
01:48:38.000Now, I want to avoid actually going after the little guy in any way.
01:48:41.000So that's why we're looking at, you know, billboards and silly pranks and things like this that are all, like, not even civil disobedience.
01:48:48.000Just, you know, pranks is probably a better way to put it.
01:49:38.000So I saw this online and they were like, anyone notice that after January 6th, Movie theaters are only showing one movie and it's called the 355, which is like, I don't know, some rom-com or something.
01:49:50.000And then someone responded with, I think this means the feds are going to start, you know, locking down the country or there's going to be an interstate travel ban.
01:49:58.000And I'm like, you got all that because movies haven't been announced yet?
01:50:01.000I'll tell you what I think's happening.
01:50:09.000Although I gotta admit it, I've never noticed this before, it could just be that people finally notice something that happens all the time.
01:50:16.000Every year on the first of the year, theaters haven't sent in their updated lists, and that could be normal.
01:50:22.000Finally someone noticed it and everyone thinks it's a conspiracy.
01:50:27.000Or, sure, I guess the government's gonna be locking everything down, I suppose, but I really doubt it.
01:50:32.000All right, Ricardo says, Greetings from Brazil.
01:50:36.000This week it's going to be voted if children 5 to 11 need to be vaxxed in Brazil.
01:50:40.000Also today, a three times Pfizer jabbed journalist had a sudden cardiac arrest live.
01:50:50.000Well, I can't say much about that because you need to look at larger datasets to understand if that matters.
01:50:57.000We've talked about the soccer players sort of, you know, passing out and collapsing.
01:51:01.000Dr. Malone said something interesting on Jarwin's podcast, and we're going to get into this in the members-only segment because YouTube is ban-heavy, and that's kind of the problem.
01:51:08.000But one thing I think is interesting is that people need to understand, when you see stories like this, it's possible COVID, long COVID, is having this effect.
01:51:17.000Now, with that in mind, check out the members only segment because we're going to get into greater detail about what this means and how, you know, how it pertains to vaccines.
01:51:26.000Unfortunately, let's be, I got to be real with you, if YouTube is absolutely insane as it pertains to censorship, but we do have some plans.
01:51:35.000We've been thinking about how to push back With as crazy as YouTube is getting, especially in an election year.
01:51:43.000And so one of the things we're planning on doing is a Sunday special, a special Sunday episode, I don't want to call it Sunday special, it's what Ben Shapiro calls it, but a special weekend episode.
01:51:51.000And we're trying to figure out how we can do that within our current, you know, timeframe and work schedule.
01:51:55.000So that way on iTunes, Spotify, and other podcast platforms, we will have like very serious, publicly available, free conversations that go beyond YouTube's stupid rules.
01:52:07.000With our articles, but we also have the Members Only segment, which is, you know, you gotta pay for because we need to support the infrastructure.
01:52:12.000I'll also just tell you, it is really expensive to host those videos.
01:52:17.000If we could host it all and give it away for free, we would.
01:52:20.000YouTube, when we do these shows, it's free for us.
01:52:23.000We don't pay YouTube to host this content, but that means we also have YouTube's rules.
01:52:28.000So the strategy then is, okay, we'll host our own videos, But it's really expensive, and so we need to basically be like, here's how much it costs to get access to this stuff.
01:52:37.000One solution is to put up a special episode every weekend on other platforms, like it'll probably be on Rumble.
01:52:43.000It'll probably be exclusive on Rumble, and then also on iTunes, Spotify.
01:52:49.000I don't think I have, you know, all the solutions worked out just yet, but...
01:52:54.000There's also a video going around alleging, showing citizens beating up a local mayor who mandated vaccine passports to eat and mandatory vaccinations for children and that video is going around allegedly showing that mayor getting his buttocks carefully hit.
01:53:15.000There's a feud, I guess, between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dan Crenshaw.
01:53:40.000He had this video, he had this podcast clip where he was like, he said something about Americans who rag on endless war, being like ill-informed or something.
01:53:49.000I think it was taken a little bit out of context, but I think it wasn't out of context enough for me to defend the guy.
01:53:53.000I think, you know, he's been fairly war hawkish.
01:55:07.000And it's the one where Fauci comes down and kidnaps people because there's too many people at a family gathering.
01:55:12.000But without Seamus directing, it's really hard to do because I don't know exactly what his vision is.
01:55:16.000So without him there, I just had to read it like 10 different ways over several minutes so we could try and figure out which inflection and which speed made sense.
01:55:27.000I thought it was very, very hilarious though.
01:56:59.000Oh, was that a reference to something?
01:57:02.000I don't know if there was a reference but he was clearly one of the big tech giants and a lot of people say he was Bill Gates because of his voice and because of the sweaters and I absolutely agree.
01:58:03.000So I have a source that says if you do enough of these stimulants, eventually you'll crash out, which makes sense because your body can only do so much.
01:58:11.000Well, crackheads are like mystical figures.
01:58:13.000They have, you know, godlike powers as well, and also the ability to, like, pass out everywhere, so.
01:59:25.000And so they told me, like, if you speak with a British accent, they'll just think you're speaking with a German accent, I guess, and then they won't think you're American.
01:59:32.000But they can tell you're American based on the American accent.
01:59:48.000They were like, I don't know where that guy's... No, I didn't really do that.
01:59:50.000I was just like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
01:59:52.000Cornelius Buttknuckle says, I've seen many a crackhead that have been up for many a day and they do get to a point that if they've been up for so long that their bodies start to force them to sleep.
02:00:20.000I got to say, you know, I know a lot of people in the suburbs of Chicago and they were like from well-off families, bored, and they just do drugs all the time.
02:02:13.000Maybe we should do something like that, but in the meantime, you guys can just share it if you like it.
02:02:18.000And if you do, then I suppose we deserve the views.
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02:02:33.000Zed, do you want to shout anything out?
02:02:35.000Yeah, I mean we're still, my friend Sean Misrobian and I, we're still writing at inquiremore.com on Substack and I'm contributing to a range of different outlets in addition to that.
02:02:44.000I try to put this stuff out on my Twitter as well, just my first name and last name.
02:02:54.000I released a pretty interesting video on YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange about the shifting tides.
02:03:00.000I just released another masterclass on LukeUncensored.com and another video on Robert Malone specifically talking about the Indiana life insurance CEO and his comments about the 40% excess deaths in certain age groups.
02:03:14.000So if you want to see that video, LukeUncensored.com.