Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Joe Rogan Leads EXODUS From Twitter To GETTR After Dr. Malone BANNED w-Zaid Jilani

00:00:00.000 Dr. Robert Malone.

00:00:10.000 It's Robert, right?

00:00:11.000 I got his name right?

00:00:11.000 Yep.

00:00:12.000 All right, cool.

00:00:12.000 He was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:00:14.000 It was a fascinating episode.

00:00:17.000 And I will start this show off by saying something very simple.

00:00:20.000 If you support shutting down the voice of scientists, you don't believe in science.

00:00:26.000 That is the opposite of science.

00:00:28.000 Dissenting voices must be heard.

00:00:31.000 So they did this podcast.

00:00:32.000 It was uploaded to YouTube.

00:00:34.000 It wasn't uploaded by Joe, as far as I know, but it did get deleted.

00:00:38.000 In that episode, Malone talks about how he's been banned from Twitter, and for what reason?

00:00:43.000 I guess COVID misinformation.

00:00:45.000 He mentions Getter.

00:00:46.000 Well, only a few days after this show, Joe Rogan posts that he is signing up for Getter, which I don't think he's the first person to make this jump.

00:00:56.000 I mean, a lot of people were already on Getter.

00:00:58.000 It's basically a Twitter rival.

00:00:59.000 But many people immediately started setting up Getter accounts because you've got to have somewhere to go, and the challenges for Whatever the faction is that's not the left.

00:01:10.000 Moderates, independents, post-liberal, conservative.

00:01:12.000 We need a word for it because the right isn't necessarily correct.

00:01:15.000 There's certainly left-wing individuals who agree with free speech and things like that who are more on the side.

00:01:21.000 Like Joe Rogan's not a right-wing guy, you know what I mean?

00:01:23.000 But these are people trying to find a place where they can congregate in the event they do get banned from Twitter.

00:01:29.000 So now we're seeing a major boom in getter.

00:01:32.000 150,000 new users in one day.

00:01:36.000 I think they fear Joe Rogan, especially with podcasts like this.

00:01:39.000 I gotta be honest.

00:01:40.000 I struggled to find the episode.

00:01:42.000 No joke.

00:01:42.000 We'll get into all this stuff.

00:01:43.000 But I think this is a really big deal.

00:01:45.000 We've also got some data on Joe Rogan's ratings as it relates to all of the big mainstream cable channels.

00:01:52.000 And suffice it to say, his ratings are like three to ten times or even more larger than mainstream TV shows.

00:01:59.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:00.000 We'll talk about Rand Paul.

00:02:03.000 He's dropping YouTube.

00:02:04.000 He says, I'm not gonna be on this platform.

00:02:06.000 Crazy story out of Australia.

00:02:07.000 A man immolated himself in protest of the COVID mandates.

00:02:12.000 And then we got a surge in Democrat retirements.

00:02:15.000 Just getting worse.

00:02:15.000 Another Democrat announced they would not be seeking re-election.

00:02:18.000 I think this is like two for the past several days or whatever.

00:02:21.000 So it's going to be a crazy year, my friends.

00:02:24.000 Let me just say it's 2022.

00:02:26.000 Last year was an off year, okay?

00:02:28.000 There were some elections, sure.

00:02:30.000 2022 is the midterms.

00:02:32.000 It's going to be all out, balls to the wall, censorship, smears, harassment, everything, you name it.

00:02:39.000 Anyone who challenges the establishment is going to be targeted with all of this stuff.

00:02:45.000 It's everybody.

00:02:45.000 I don't care if it's left or right, whatever.

00:02:47.000 Now, for the most part, I think the establishment, be it establishment Republicans, but mostly the Democrats, They're going to be playing dirty.

00:02:54.000 You know that they have allies in big tech.

00:02:56.000 We saw what they did with the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:02:58.000 They're going to be coming for everyone on this show.

00:02:59.000 They're going to be coming for you guys.

00:03:01.000 You're going to get banned for nonsensical things like saying, learn to code.

00:03:04.000 So pay attention to what's going on.

00:03:06.000 And that's why the story about Getter is so important.

00:03:09.000 Joining us to talk about this and much, much more is Zed Jelani.

00:03:12.000 How's it going, man?

00:03:13.000 You want to introduce yourself?

00:03:14.000 Yeah, it's my second time on Tim's show and I'm happy to be here again.

00:03:19.000 I've been a journalist for about a dozen years.

00:03:22.000 I worked at ThinkProgress, The Intercept, a few other different outlets, and today I freelance and also I have a substack at inquiremore.com.

00:03:30.000 I write about politics and current affairs.

00:03:32.000 I follow a lot of the same issues that Tim does and generally try to stay on the beat of underreported stories and Sort of picking apart narratives, I think, that are out there that, you know, aren't factually supported and kind of getting, again, getting that news out there that I think that, you know, you're not necessarily going to see it on the CNNs of the world, so.

00:03:51.000 Cool.

00:03:52.000 Right on, man.

00:03:52.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:03:53.000 We got Luke.

00:03:53.000 There's a lot of crazy narratives out there, so I'm really interested in this conversation, Zed.

00:03:58.000 Thanks so much for coming, and I would just like to say today I'm wearing a shirt.

00:04:02.000 In honor of the 700 sheep near Hamburg, Germany that just took part in a propaganda effort.

00:04:08.000 The shirt reads, y'all went from sheep to lab rats.

00:04:14.000 This is definitely not a shirt for the timid.

00:04:16.000 It's a great conversation starter and you could get yours on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.

00:04:21.000 And because you do, I'm here.

00:04:23.000 Thanks for having me.

00:04:23.000 This should be a great conversation.

00:04:25.000 I always love sitting down with Zedd, because he always has really interesting things to say, and he has, like, such a wide range of knowledge, so I'm stoked for this evening.

00:04:31.000 I always love Monday nights.

00:04:32.000 You guys think I'm crazy, but I do like work, so let's get going.

00:04:35.000 Ian is not here.

00:04:36.000 His flight on the way back went through a rift in the time-space continuum.

00:04:41.000 However, Ian at the time was asleep, and only the people who were awake vanished as they passed through this rift.

00:04:48.000 We got word that he and a small group of people fought off gigantic, walnut-looking monsters that devour time, And we're able to get back in the plane and take off, go back to sleep by lowering the air pressure.

00:04:58.000 And they've woken.

00:04:59.000 Now they're going to be landing.

00:05:00.000 So Ian should be back by around 9 p.m.

00:05:02.000 Special bonus points to anyone who knows what that was a reference to.

00:05:05.000 And you super chat us that because I haven't seen that.

00:05:07.000 I'll leave it there.

00:05:08.000 You guys.

00:05:09.000 I do.

00:05:09.000 But thank you.

00:05:10.000 Thank you there, Don Lemon.

00:05:11.000 Appreciate that.

00:05:12.000 Yeah, that wasn't a reference to Don Lemon.

00:05:14.000 I know it's a reference to something else.

00:05:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:16.000 But Don Lemon made another prediction on national television.

00:05:19.000 Good stuff, too.

00:05:20.000 That was also loony.

00:05:21.000 Ian's plane was not sucked into a black hole.

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00:06:46.000 Let's get into that first big story.

00:06:48.000 Joe Rogan leads move to Getter after Twitter bans Dr. Robert Malone, Rep.

00:06:54.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:06:55.000 Rogan's move comes after Twitter banned Rep.

00:06:57.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dr. Malone for COVID misinformation.

00:07:00.000 But I don't think Joe Rogan signed up for Getter because of Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:07:05.000 I think he did it mostly because Dr. Malone told him on his show he was banned and then he signed up for Getter.

00:07:13.000 Now, I wanna make one very important point before we get into all of this stuff.

00:07:16.000 Joe Rogan is the biggest podcast in the world.

00:07:19.000 Even still, after leaving YouTube and iTunes, still the biggest podcast.

00:07:23.000 I gotta say, I see his numbers put out by Spotify compared to Nielsen ratings.

00:07:31.000 Spotify is saying, this is Luke Rutkowski on Twitter.

00:07:35.000 I heard about this guy before.

00:07:36.000 He's pretty good, he's pretty good.

00:07:37.000 Joe Rogan experienced 11 million viewers per show.

00:07:43.000 Wow.

00:07:44.000 Holy cow. 0.89

00:07:45.000 11 million.

00:07:46.000 That is substantially larger than what we get on this show across the board.

00:07:51.000 True.

00:07:51.000 And we could only hope to ever reach that level of viewership.

00:07:55.000 But that's Joe Rogan.

00:07:56.000 Of course it is.

00:07:57.000 When he says, hey guys, I'm kind of worried about the censorship.

00:08:00.000 I'm going to get up on Getter.

00:08:01.000 There's going to be a lot of regular people who aren't deeply entrenched in politics who are going to do the same.

00:08:07.000 And this is huge in the battle against censorship.

00:08:10.000 It could be good.

00:08:12.000 Could be bad.

00:08:13.000 Now, it is good, but there could be some bad to it.

00:08:15.000 I'll say this.

00:08:16.000 A lot of people who are being censored, who have been banned, have found a voice on other platforms like Parler, Gab, Getter, etc.

00:08:23.000 But the big tech collusion comes after all these platforms.

00:08:26.000 We saw what happened to Parler.

00:08:28.000 We saw what happened to Gab.

00:08:29.000 Gab starts building its own infrastructure.

00:08:31.000 Getter may experience something similar.

00:08:34.000 But at the very least, for the time being, if you get banned from Twitter, that's somewhere you can go and see many people talking about certain ideas.

00:08:41.000 It's not perfect.

00:08:43.000 But I think coming into this year, the big risk is that if we have two separate echo chambers and people can no longer communicate at all, well then I think the divide in this country is going to get way, way worse.

00:08:56.000 Absolutely.

00:08:56.000 We're having one of the key instrumental figures that created the mRNA vaccine.

00:09:02.000 We're having Congressmen and women being banned from expressing their dissent towards the narrative and they're getting axed.

00:09:13.000 They're getting their ability to talk to their constituents removed away from them by what power?

00:09:20.000 What godlike authority?

00:09:21.000 Big tech social media that literally just deemed it To be not appropriate for the general public to hear.

00:09:26.000 I'm sorry.

00:09:27.000 I mean, once you start censoring information, once you stop eliminating the people to even have a debate or an honest conversation, you're on the wrong side of history.

00:09:36.000 And what Joe Rogan has done is he has Put people who have been censored in a way where their voice could actually be heard.

00:09:44.000 They could actually release their ideas to the general public.

00:09:47.000 And this is a huge step against the big tech social media monopolies.

00:09:52.000 And this is why I joined Gitter.

00:09:54.000 And again, I don't even know much about Gitter.

00:09:56.000 I still need to do my research.

00:09:58.000 I still want some kind of reassurances that Gitter won't become the next Twitter.

00:10:02.000 But still, this is a swell of movement of people saying, hey, this is crazy.

00:10:07.000 I can't deal with this.

00:10:08.000 I want free speech.

00:10:09.000 Zed, did you sign up for Getter?

00:10:11.000 I have not signed up for Getter yet.

00:10:12.000 I am on Rumble, which is a YouTube competitor.

00:10:15.000 Yeah, we use Rumble.

00:10:17.000 You know, I think something important to acknowledge here, I think a lot of people, you know, they look at these decisions by these companies and they say, well, they're private companies, they're behaving in They get to control who their users and their customers are, just as any store or any business organization would.

00:10:32.000 Something people have to understand is that over the past few years, the government has increasingly leaned on these companies.

00:10:38.000 You know, Democrats will bring these people before hearings, they'll bring up inflammatory content, they'll talk about this, and they'll basically ask the companies why they aren't censoring more.

00:10:46.000 Now the government, of course, has various regulatory powers it could impose on these companies that could You know, cost them profit, they could reduce their market share, they could even break them up.

00:10:55.000 And I think that a lot of what these companies have been doing over the past few years, for instance, what they did with the Hunter Biden stories, where Facebook and Twitter were throttling the story, making it difficult to even click the link to go and read the New York Post story about President Biden's son.

00:11:10.000 I think a lot of what they're doing, they're doing that preemptively to avoid potential regulation from the Democrats.

00:11:16.000 So it's not so simple as private companies simply making enlightened decisions, you know, playing hall monitor on speech.

00:11:22.000 They're actually doing this with political aims in mind, in that they know that this party is in power in Washington right now, so they have to keep them happy.

00:11:29.000 I think there's a lot of Democrats.

00:11:31.000 I think there were some Democrats who were interviewed about it, like Pramila Jayapal, who We're very much in favor of Marjorie Taylor Greene being removed from Twitter.

00:11:37.000 They probably wanted them to go further than that.

00:11:39.000 So I think, you know, you have to understand this whole thing's an ecosystem.

00:11:43.000 It's not just a company acting in a vacuum.

00:11:44.000 I mean, I think Facebook did a 24-hour suspension of Marjorie Taylor Greene almost immediately after Twitter removed her, right?

00:11:50.000 Yeah, they were right in concert.

00:11:52.000 I would actually disagree with you.

00:11:54.000 I don't think big tech is afraid of politicians.

00:11:56.000 I would say politicians are afraid of big tech, especially with the amount of money that they put into the lobbying business.

00:12:02.000 I think they're one of the biggest lobbying efforts in all of Washington, D.C., and they control a lot of Power because they get to see everything that politicians do.

00:12:14.000 Now you don't need the CIA anymore.

00:12:16.000 You got Facebook literally knowing when you're going to take a dump.

00:12:20.000 So if they know that, they're tracking and databasing all these politicians and probably have a list of dirty laundry against them and they could go to them and be like, hey, we know what you googled.

00:12:28.000 We know what you looked into.

00:12:30.000 We know the private videos you watch on this and this website.

00:12:33.000 We could release that to the general public unless you do what you want us to do.

00:12:36.000 So I think Think about how insane it is to take down an actively sitting politician, right?

00:12:40.000 Twitter banning Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:12:41.000 I mean, first of all, banning Trump.

00:12:43.000 really in charge here from my perspective, but again I might be wrong.

00:12:46.000 Think about how insane it is to take down an actively sitting politician.

00:12:50.000 Right?

00:12:51.000 Twitter banning Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:12:52.000 I mean, first of all, banning Trump.

00:12:54.000 That was crazy.

00:12:56.000 People don't realize this, man.

00:12:57.000 You get the CNNs, you get all these networks being like, an insurrection occurred, so we must remove the current president from all of these social media platforms so he can't communicate.

00:13:07.000 His followers aren't going away.

00:13:07.000 He's not going away.

00:13:09.000 This is not shutting anything down.

00:13:10.000 It's only proving to the people who don't like you, you're as bad as they said you were.

00:13:14.000 If you've got people, if they're telling us that there's an insurrection, you've got people who genuinely think the Democrats and the neocons are like evil and need to be removed or whatever, and then you decide that the one person they do like, Trump, is going to be removed from public discourse, that just makes it worse.

00:13:33.000 It makes it substantially worse.

00:13:34.000 I think back to, I think it was George Washington, there was this, I'm blanking on the guy's name, but there was a conspiracy Do you guys remember this?

00:13:43.000 After the revolution, America couldn't pay its debts, and a bunch of soldiers weren't paid.

00:13:47.000 So there was some insurrection, and George Washington was like, no, no, no, no.

00:13:50.000 We gotta let these guys go.

00:13:51.000 If we prosecute or persecute them, it'll only make things worse.

00:13:54.000 I can't remember the full details.

00:13:57.000 We talked about it on the show once.

00:13:58.000 But that's what a lot of people talked about back during the insurrection.

00:14:01.000 People much smarter than I, mind you.

00:14:03.000 They said, perhaps amnesty for these people is the best way to do this, to say, look, we are one country.

00:14:09.000 We need to come together.

00:14:10.000 We don't want to make these problems worse.

00:14:12.000 Instead, the establishment, the intelligence agencies, the DOJ have all done everything in their power to make this as bad as possible.

00:14:19.000 And it's not just the DOJ, it's not just the government, it's the big tech companies.

00:14:23.000 Now, removing Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:14:25.000 For what?

00:14:26.000 Well, COVID misinformation, they said.

00:14:27.000 And Dr. Malone.

00:14:29.000 Now Marjorie Taylor Greene's not a scientist, but she is a leader in the federal government. 1.00

00:14:33.000 They may not like that she is, but she is.

00:14:36.000 Dr. Malone is a scientist, a dissenting one.

00:14:38.000 When you ban dissent, that's the opposite of science.

00:14:41.000 They're just proving to everyone the problem is bad.

00:14:45.000 Or as bad or worse than they realized.

00:14:48.000 And let's remember something.

00:14:50.000 When like-minded people gather together, they tend to become more extreme, right?

00:14:53.000 So it was in the past, it would have been a matter of, you know, Dr. Robert Malone's on Twitter.

00:14:58.000 He's on YouTube.

00:14:59.000 He's discussing these things with other scientists.

00:15:01.000 You can weigh what he says against other people.

00:15:03.000 The truth can win out that way, right?

00:15:05.000 Let's say someone's a huge fan of Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:15:07.000 Now they're just going to go watch her on Rumble or view her messages on Getter. 0.74

00:15:11.000 They may not see someone debating with her, discussing with her.

00:15:14.000 They might grow even more kind of closed-minded in that direction, right?

00:15:17.000 They're reducing contact between people of different ideologies because they're just deciding that certain ideologies are verboten, that they're forbidden to be spoken.

00:15:25.000 They're ending up segmenting and segregating people off and that may actually create more extreme echo chambers in the long run.

00:15:31.000 And you know, I think That this, again, I think because of all the political considerations that are happening right now, I mean, these companies tend to be run by more left-leaning people.

00:15:39.000 They have a more left-leaning government in DC that they are somewhat managing or dealing with right now.

00:15:45.000 I don't think they think three steps ahead when it comes to a lot of this stuff, right?

00:15:48.000 And I think Again, what you pointed out in terms of those historical examples, we've seen that many times throughout history.

00:15:55.000 Not only with George Washington, who started after the American Civil War, there was a long process of reconciliation between the North and the South that wasn't resolved maybe for a hundred years.

00:16:02.000 I don't think it was ever resolved.

00:16:03.000 After World War II, I think that many of the Allies, you know, they kept actually a fair bit of the German leadership.

00:16:09.000 Of course, many of them were brought to trial and executed, but some of the German leadership was maintained.

00:16:14.000 A big part of the Japanese leadership was maintained.

00:16:16.000 I think they did that because they didn't want to throw their societies into a further civil war.

00:16:20.000 They didn't want to make them feel marginalized and repressed.

00:16:22.000 They wanted to say, hey look, this war was wrong.

00:16:24.000 We defeated you, but we're going to bring you into the community of nations now, right?

00:16:27.000 They wanted to make them feel included.

00:16:28.000 And I think that mostly worked with Germany and Japan and Italy and these Axis powers.

00:16:32.000 And I think that has generally been the wiser path to take here.

00:16:36.000 And I think that Yeah.

00:16:38.000 In a few days, I imagine with the January 6th anniversary, we're going to see a lot of mulling over this.

00:16:43.000 New York Times already said every day is January 6th now, right?

00:16:46.000 You can't move past it.

00:16:46.000 You can't reconcile with these people.

00:16:48.000 You can't try to come back to a normal country.

00:16:51.000 They seem to be wanting there to be some kind of civil disturbance or war, but it has no endpoint and it has no goal either, right?

00:16:57.000 Because what does this conflict entail even?

00:17:00.000 It's just a matter of permanent grievance or resentment.

00:17:02.000 Divide and conquer. 0.98

00:17:03.000 I think it's deliberate when you look at these echo chambers.

00:17:06.000 They're not only created with censorship.

00:17:07.000 They're created with the algorithms that promote people from just having their views regurgitated back to them by people who have the same political ideology and I think it's meant so we do fight each other.

00:17:19.000 So of course, we don't really truly look at what's causing our problems.

00:17:23.000 We look at each other and see that's the problem, our common man, our neighbor.

00:17:27.000 We should go after him, we should fight them because they think not like me. 0.99

00:17:31.000 And again, that type of ideology is absolutely fascistic and it's disgusting and it's something we need to fight back on as much as we can right now.

00:17:38.000 Take a look at this tweet here from everyone's favorite CNN personality, Brian Stelter.

00:17:42.000 He says, watch how this Twitter user mocks reporters for talking candidly about the trauma associated with the Capitol attack.

00:17:51.000 I just quote-tweeted it and wrote, trauma.

00:17:54.000 The trauma?

00:17:56.000 I like the first reply to it.

00:17:58.000 I think that's pretty good.

00:18:01.000 Oh, Stewie rocking back and forth.

00:18:03.000 Stewie from Family Guy.

00:18:04.000 The trauma?

00:18:05.000 Okay, here's what you need to understand.

00:18:07.000 If you are on the ground during these, like, riotous moments, it can be stressful.

00:18:13.000 But, uh, for many of us, we've been through tons of them.

00:18:16.000 I've been, you know, Brazil, I think, was one of the most intense.

00:18:19.000 Thailand was probably the scariest, because people were actually killing each other there.

00:18:23.000 But to say that in any way foreign conflict... Like, there are foreign war reporters and conflict reporters much braver than I, much smarter than I, who have traveled to many countries facing real dangers, who don't have trauma.

00:18:35.000 And many do, don't get me wrong.

00:18:37.000 For journalists in America who are not on the ground to be discussing their trauma over an event they did not witness, I think it just goes to show you how insane the whole system is getting.

00:18:48.000 But I want to keep the subject on what's going on with the gutter.

00:18:51.000 We have this story.

00:18:52.000 This is really funny.

00:18:54.000 from July of this year.

00:18:56.000 The newest MAGA app is tied to a Bannon-allied Chinese billionaire.

00:19:01.000 Getter has existed as a Chinese-language social media network linked to Guo Wengui.

00:19:06.000 It was unveiled as a new platform by Jason Miller on Thursday.

00:19:11.000 They say, on Tuesday, Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese billionaire who runs a Chinese-language media network with Trump advisor Steve Bannon, posted a video on his site, GNews, reminding viewers to back up their social media posts on Getter, saying, I guess the site was going to get wiped or something.

00:19:26.000 Two days later, Donald Trump's former advisor, Jason Miller, announced that Getter, a Chinese-language site for dissidents opposing the Chinese Communist Party, would soon launch as a pro-MAGA free speech social media platform.

00:19:39.000 Now, I don't know much about who this guy is, all right?

00:19:41.000 But there have been a lot of people concerned about the move together because of the association with Guo Wengui.

00:19:47.000 I would like to show you this music video from YouTube, where it's only got 63,000 views.

00:19:52.000 It's from October of 2020, and it's this guy.

00:19:57.000 Is that who it is?

00:19:58.000 Is it Guo?

00:19:58.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:19:59.000 And he's on a boat smoking a cigar, and he's like, CCP you're over, and he's doing like boxing moves.

00:20:06.000 That, you know what, man?

00:20:07.000 I can appreciate the attempt, you know, culture jamming and all that stuff, but who is this guy?

00:20:12.000 What is this?

00:20:13.000 I don't know if this could be considered boxing moves, but he's been a big supporter of the Hong Kong movement, and of course he also hangs out routinely with Steve Bannon.

00:20:21.000 Steve Bannon is seen with him a lot.

00:20:22.000 Other than that, I don't really know much about him, but just like, you know, anyone, people should obviously be looking into Who's who and who's controlling what?

00:20:31.000 Because again, when you're running a big tech social media company, you have a lot of power.

00:20:35.000 You've got a lot of authority.

00:20:36.000 And not a lot of people realize, when something's free, you're usually the product.

00:20:40.000 How Getter is going to treat their product, their customer base, is going to be interesting.

00:20:46.000 Because obviously, this guy has a lot of money.

00:20:48.000 I don't think... Maybe money motivates him.

00:20:51.000 Maybe it's something else.

00:20:52.000 But I think only time will tell.

00:20:54.000 I'm skeptical of everything, to be quite honest with you personally, myself.

00:21:00.000 No.

00:21:01.000 Honestly, beyond the music video.

00:21:04.000 I think he's known to be a character, but I don't know anything special about him.

00:21:09.000 I'll say this.

00:21:10.000 There are a lot of people talking about Getter banning people.

00:21:14.000 Banning, you know, like, America First.

00:21:17.000 They reportedly banned the phrase, And I saw that and people were like, look, this platform is going to ban people the same as Twitter and all these other platforms.

00:21:26.000 So I went on Getter and I typed in, did they really ban the word Groyper to see if it was banned?

00:21:30.000 It posted and people responded saying it's posting, so I don't think that they did ban it.

00:21:34.000 Maybe they temporarily did or something happened.

00:21:37.000 However, their rules are the same as Twitter for the most part.

00:21:39.000 Like, obviously not the community guidelines, but the terms where they're like, we'll ban you if we decide to.

00:21:45.000 I believe Getter absolutely will be banning people.

00:21:49.000 100%.

00:21:50.000 Of course they will.

00:21:50.000 They have to.

00:21:51.000 You can't have criminal images, you know, like, I don't want to get too explicit on what those kind of images could be, but Ian, who's not here tonight, has experience when he was working for Mines of having to go through these images, which are, like, many of which are explicitly criminal, and you have to remove them, and you have to ban the users.

00:22:07.000 However, I think it'll go a little bit beyond that.

00:22:09.000 I think Getter probably will ban people for You know, I don't want to say completely political reasons, but for fairly political reasons.

00:22:17.000 I just think the difference is, Twitter is obviously a left-wing platform.

00:22:21.000 Hands down.

00:22:22.000 There are rules on misgendering.

00:22:24.000 100% left-wing perspective.

00:22:26.000 The fact that they would ban a conservative for holding a conservative view?

00:22:29.000 Well, there you go.

00:22:30.000 The same is true for all these big tech companies.

00:22:32.000 I think Getter wants to do the exact same thing, but just on the right.

00:22:35.000 Here's the problem.

00:22:36.000 The right typically likes to engage with the left and challenge ideas.

00:22:41.000 The left generally prefers echo chambers where they're told what to think.

00:22:45.000 Now, I know a lot of people on the left will say, that's not true, that's not true.

00:22:49.000 We've already been through multiple iterations of this, where Jack Dorsey himself said, in 2016, left-wing journalists were only following left-wing journalists, but right-wing journalists were following both left and right-wing journalists.

00:23:01.000 We've looked at the ground news bias charts on a variety of users, and you can see that

00:23:09.000 people associated with the right get their news from either the right and the left, maybe

00:23:13.000 a little bit more the right.

00:23:15.000 And people on the left, it's 95% left-wing news sources.

00:23:18.000 The left typically stays in an echo chamber.

00:23:21.000 This is why when Lauren Boebert was making fun of Donald Trump for saying, true, not

00:23:26.000 a shabba to pressure, the left was confused and didn't know what she was talking about.

00:23:30.000 Because these people just live in an echo chamber.

00:23:32.000 That means, Twitter is perfect for the left.

00:23:34.000 They don't want to leave their echo chamber, they want to be in it.

00:23:36.000 But Getter won't work for the right because the right wants to engage with people.

00:23:41.000 Does Getter have a code of conduct?

00:23:42.000 And I think a lot of people are asking the question, what guarantees do we have that Getter will stand up for the principles of free speech?

00:23:50.000 Obviously, if there's criminal speech, that's a matter of something that the authorities deal with.

00:23:55.000 But when it comes to free speech, when it comes to political discussions, when it comes to even criticizing the CEO, will that be allowed?

00:24:02.000 That's a very important question that needs to be asked.

00:24:05.000 I think it would be interesting to talk to this CEO.

00:24:08.000 I don't know if you'd be down to kind of have him on, but I would have a lot of questions and guarantees and make someone even sign a contract on air being like, I pledge to never censor free speech ever or I will chop off my left hand or whatever.

00:24:23.000 I feel like a lot of these companies, they write guidelines and they write terms of service

00:24:28.000 and they give them some wiggle room to in the future if they feel like they have to

00:24:31.000 panic and censor or panic and start moderating things, they'll start doing it.

00:24:35.000 Like Substack, for instance, I don't think they've really cracked down at all on basically

00:24:40.000 anything.

00:24:41.000 I think Rogan and Tim Dillon were talking about them cracking down on some people.

00:24:46.000 Well, the thing is, within their service, within their guidelines, they say something

00:24:51.000 like oh we don't we don't allow hate speech or whatever And that's the most nebulous... Getter?

00:24:55.000 Not Getter, Substack. 0.94

00:24:56.000 Substack says that.

00:24:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:58.000 I'm reading Getter right now.

00:24:58.000 They ban hate speech.

00:24:59.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:25:00.000 That's like the most nebulous category, right?

00:25:01.000 That kind of becomes whatever you decide it is.

00:25:04.000 And so if you have that within your terms of service, I feel like you're kind of leaving it like a valve for yourself.

00:25:09.000 Like if you feel like something gets too like toxic or too spicy, you can like flip that valve and you can be like, okay, that was in our terms of service.

00:25:16.000 But the thing is they don't really define that, right?

00:25:18.000 So like you don't know what their limits are or what they will.

00:25:21.000 Let me read this.

00:25:22.000 And I might have to be... Well, I'll just read it.

00:25:25.000 Getter holds freedom of speech as its core value and does not wish to censor your opinions.

00:25:30.000 Nonetheless, you may not post on or transmit through the service any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, indecent, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, pornographic, profane, hateful, Racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable material of any kind, including any material that encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise violate any law, rule, or regulation of the law, laws applicable to you or applicable to the country in which the material is posted.

00:26:03.000 For example, this may include content identified as personal bullying, child abuse, attacking any religion or race, or content containing video or depictions of Oh, man.

00:26:14.000 Bad stuff.

00:26:15.000 Yeah, bad stuff.

00:26:16.000 We'll get in trouble.

00:26:16.000 Bad stuff.

00:26:19.000 Let's just say ISIS-related stuff.

00:26:21.000 That's probably worse, but whatever.

00:26:24.000 Screw it.

00:26:24.000 You know what?

00:26:25.000 I'm done with this.

00:26:25.000 Beheadings.

00:26:26.000 There's the word.

00:26:26.000 There you go.

00:26:27.000 We reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse, to post, or remove any posting or other user-generated content, including private messages from you, or to deny, restrict, suspend, or terminate access to all or part of the interactive community at any time, for any or no reason, Without prior notice or explanation, and without liability.

00:26:44.000 Now, I tell you this.

00:26:46.000 That sounds exactly, if not worse than, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, or otherwise.

00:26:52.000 The point is, the people running Getter are the inverted political perspective, as compared to, you know, Getter is the inversion of Twitter, effectively.

00:27:02.000 Same as Parler, those other platforms.

00:27:05.000 All that means is, we're gonna have parallel political discourse.

00:27:09.000 If you want to talk about right-wing stuff, they'll be like, oh, that's not hateful.

00:27:12.000 And then on the left, if you talk about left-wing stuff, they'll be like, yeah, that's fine.

00:27:16.000 Gatter is probably, in my opinion, substantially less likely to censor you for having his opinions, but they have the same rules, so keep that in mind.

00:27:24.000 Yeah, it's very vague legalese language here that could be interpreted and used in many different ways, especially if they have pressure from the ESG, what is it, the EGS?

00:27:35.000 No, the Environmental Social Governance score, ESG score, especially if they get pressure from kind of institutional powers or bigger players out there or advertisers.

00:27:45.000 It's going to be interesting to talk to the guy who's running it.

00:27:49.000 I would love to do that and I would love to ask more serious questions and again have some more kind of You know, things where we could put things on paper and have guarantees guaranteeing free speech.

00:28:01.000 Look, man.

00:28:01.000 You can't, dude.

00:28:03.000 They have to have these things for a variety of reasons.

00:28:06.000 Exactly.

00:28:07.000 Namely, they'd be banned from all the app stores because of the Silicon Valley monopoly on it.

00:28:12.000 So clearly, Getter's trying to navigate this, but you can't do it.

00:28:15.000 You can't do it.

00:28:17.000 It's not just the platform like Getter.

00:28:19.000 It's the fact that Parler got removed over lies.

00:28:23.000 Gab was smeared and they went after their infrastructure over lives.

00:28:28.000 So Getter is trying to play within the bounds.

00:28:31.000 It's like you're in the Matrix, you know?

00:28:34.000 They say in the Matrix you can sort of bend the rules, but you're still bound by the same rules.

00:28:40.000 Getter is still within the Silicon Valley ecosystem.

00:28:40.000 That's what it is.

00:28:43.000 They're gonna be dealing with the same problems.

00:28:45.000 It'll be a little bit better, but for the most part...

00:28:48.000 I don't know how much better.

00:28:50.000 I mean, minds, M-I-N-D-S, it's always hard to say that word, mindes, because people think you're saying M-I-N-E-S, might be better, but a lot of people complain about their user interface being really difficult to use compared to, like, Getter or other platforms.

00:29:05.000 I don't have all the answers.

00:29:07.000 I don't know if Getter's the answer.

00:29:08.000 I don't know.

00:29:09.000 I mean, it might be a matter of, like, there are people who talk about, you know, crypto technology and decentralization and things like that that will free people up to use these technologies.

00:29:19.000 Like, you can't have, like, a giant signal group for, like, you know, a million people or whatever to make it a social network.

00:29:19.000 Like, I don't know.

00:29:24.000 But, like, people use Signal right now for, like, end-to-end encrypted messaging with each other.

00:29:28.000 And, like, you know, there are technologies that you I don't know.

00:29:33.000 I guess it's going to take a lot of building because up until I would say about five or six years ago, even the Silicon Valley ecosystem was fairly free.

00:29:40.000 Like there was very little moderation or censorship in the Silicon Valley ecosystem up until I would say 2015, 2016.

00:29:48.000 And so it's a new, it's kind of like a new problem that a lot of people are dealing with and grappling with right now.

00:29:53.000 So.

00:29:53.000 Right.

00:29:55.000 Absolutely.

00:29:57.000 How do we navigate this landscape?

00:29:59.000 Do we all trust some other corporation out there?

00:30:04.000 Or do we just go encrypted, go anonymous?

00:30:07.000 It's such a crazy battle that we're even having to deal with a situation where scientists and members of Congress are having their voices censored in favor of multinational corporations with a criminal past they use this term misinformation which is like basically what they're trying to say is the other person is wrong and like you shouldn't be allowed to speak if you're wrong and i'm just like how can you have any conversation people are always disagreeing with each other someone's usually wrong about the facts that's the nature of human human dialogue with each other they might as well say pravda right that would have been more convincing for me

00:30:40.000 Let's bring up this story we got from TimCast.com.

00:30:42.000 YouTube and Twitter delete Joe Rogan's interview with vaccine inventor Dr. Malone.

00:30:47.000 The interview regarding COVID vaccines and mandates was removed days after Robert Malone's Twitter was also suspended.

00:30:54.000 So I don't think it was posted by Joe Rogan, though.

00:30:57.000 Do you guys know who uploaded this?

00:30:59.000 It was Malone himself, right?

00:31:00.000 Well, when Peter McCullough was on, he uploaded the full interview on his YouTube channel and YouTube took that video down, so I don't know if Robert Malone uploaded it on his YouTube channel.

00:31:09.000 I think Malone had already been kicked off of Twitter by the time he went on Rodeo.

00:31:13.000 Twitter, but as far as the YouTube video, the YouTube video was uploaded in full and then it was taken down, so...

00:31:20.000 Let me tell you, check this out.

00:31:21.000 So when this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience dropped with Dr. Malone, naturally it was getting huge, huge buzz.

00:31:29.000 Everybody was talking about it, they just banned this guy.

00:31:31.000 And so I opened Spotify.

00:31:34.000 Normally when I open Spotify, it's like the Joe Rogan Experience, front and center, trying to advertise it.

00:31:38.000 There was nothing.

00:31:39.000 So I scroll around and I'm like, all right, I'll hit podcasts.

00:31:41.000 I hit podcasts, nothing.

00:31:43.000 And then I'm like, where's Joe Rogan?

00:31:46.000 I couldn't find him.

00:31:47.000 At first, I was just trying to search through like, okay, podcasts, okay, comedy, nothing, entertainment, nothing, news.

00:31:53.000 What?

00:31:54.000 Every time I used to open that before, it was like front and center, watch Joe Rogan.

00:31:59.000 So then I just had to manually search Joe Rogan experience, found it, went into his show profile, found it, and played it.

00:32:05.000 That may be nothing.

00:32:06.000 Maybe the Spotify algorithm was like, Tim, we don't think you actually want to listen to Joe Rogan, even though it's like the only thing you listen to on Spotify, so we're not gonna suggest it to you right now.

00:32:14.000 But then I started seeing videos pop up.

00:32:16.000 Someone posted a video.

00:32:17.000 where they were playing a bunch of podcasts on Spotify.

00:32:21.000 They even played Timcast IRL.

00:32:22.000 And then when they opened up Joe Rogan with Malone, it wouldn't load.

00:32:26.000 And he was like, I can't get it to play, I don't understand.

00:32:29.000 So I don't know if there's something going on.

00:32:33.000 Maybe not, but I just gotta, every time there's an accident or a mistake, or coincidence, whatever, coincidence, it's only ever affecting this kind of thing.

00:32:44.000 When people get banned, oh, it was a mistake, we didn't mean to ban you.

00:32:47.000 Oh, yeah, but how often is our left establishment people getting banned?

00:32:51.000 When that happens, I just scream, Illuminati!

00:32:53.000 But again, it's also important not to jump to conclusions, but it's also, there's so many coincidences that always work in the favor of very powerful people.

00:33:03.000 How do you draw the line here?

00:33:05.000 I mean, there also was a lot of internal fighting between some Spotify staff members and Joe Rogan.

00:33:10.000 Is there a deliberate effort to undermine him?

00:33:13.000 Maybe?

00:33:14.000 We don't know.

00:33:15.000 But the fact is, these interviews with Peter McCullough, tens of millions of people have been downloading it.

00:33:23.000 I think last week it was 40 million people downloaded the Peter McCullough interview.

00:33:26.000 How do you know?

00:33:28.000 Those are some of the numbers that come up.

00:33:30.000 I think they released the stats on the Malone.

00:33:33.000 It was 40 million.

00:33:34.000 On the Malone one?

00:33:35.000 Last week.

00:33:37.000 No, this was Peter McCullough.

00:33:39.000 This is the number that I saw shared around by a lot of individuals.

00:33:42.000 40 million for Peter McCullough last week.

00:33:45.000 Those videos are still up.

00:33:46.000 They're still gaining a lot of views.

00:33:48.000 Robert Malone, I don't know the exact numbers.

00:33:50.000 And again, we're talking about... It's not unlikely.

00:33:54.000 It's very likely, especially with all the news and buzz.

00:33:57.000 Look, we've seen all of these stories about Spotify going after, like, Spotify employees demanding Joe Rogan be, like, banned or removed and they won't do it.

00:34:06.000 So, is it absurd then to think that these employees have just, you know, put their thumb on the scale a little bit?

00:34:13.000 I'll put it this way.

00:34:15.000 Does there need to be a concerted effort to go after Joe's content through infrastructure on Spotify?

00:34:20.000 No, there doesn't.

00:34:21.000 There just needs to be, like, a dude.

00:34:23.000 He's sitting in his office and they're all like, hey, we need you to, you know, update that form, you know, internally to make sure, you know, the Joe Rogan show is going to publish on time.

00:34:31.000 He goes, oh, OK, I'll get to it.

00:34:33.000 And then he laughs, pulls out his phones and starts playing, you know, Angry Birds.

00:34:36.000 Well did you guys see today that there was it was announced that Random House

00:34:40.000 will not be publishing a collection of Norman Mailer because one of their junior

00:34:45.000 employees complained about one of his essays that they thought was racially

00:34:48.000 insensitive. Of course this guy was writing in the 60s, a gonzo journalist

00:34:53.000 writing all kinds of things and he was mostly a left-leaning guy, left-wing

00:34:56.000 guy, but that's kind of what it takes in a lot of these situations now is that

00:35:00.000 you have these large firms, they have employee revolts, and it might could be a

00:35:04.000 very small employee revolt and they have to do something to appease them, right?

00:35:08.000 In this case, they canceled the entire book.

00:35:10.000 One of the most famous kind of 60s gonzo journalists.

00:35:13.000 I think they actually informed his family, like his surviving family.

00:35:16.000 They wouldn't be publishing the book.

00:35:17.000 One of the largest publishers.

00:35:19.000 But this is happening all over the place.

00:35:20.000 I mean, Netflix had an internal revolt over Dave Chappelle.

00:35:23.000 Now we learned at the end of the day, it was just a tiny number of employees, right?

00:35:26.000 It was a few dozen who walked out.

00:35:27.000 It was a massive company.

00:35:29.000 And yet the company had to go through like, you know, crisis mode internally.

00:35:33.000 I, you know, I, from what I understand, it was quite intense, uh, within that environment, because I think that unfortunately in a lot of these environments, they are not, um, You know, they've inverted the leadership.

00:35:45.000 It's kind of ruled by the angry or fearful minority, right?

00:35:48.000 It's not that the CEO tells the junior staffer, hey, we're a company about, you know, putting out these products that people want to watch and want to see, and you don't have a veto over them.

00:35:58.000 They won't tell them that.

00:35:59.000 I feel like with YouTube and Twitter, Facebook, et cetera, they got the opposite message from Uncle Ben dying, you know?

00:36:07.000 You guys know Uncle Ben, he said, you know, he's like, with great power comes great responsibility, and Peter's like, I'll be here from now on!

00:36:14.000 So, you know, Facebook was like, we have all of this power, but we'll be damned if we want to take responsibility for anything.

00:36:20.000 That's Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, it's all of Silicon Valley.

00:36:23.000 What they don't, first of all, there is political, there's a political agenda.

00:36:26.000 For sure, and those elements exist.

00:36:28.000 But there's also cowardice in these companies.

00:36:30.000 And when it comes to a lot of the COVID policy, I think, for the most part, it is fear of liability.

00:36:37.000 And there's no liability when you're like, hey man, look, it's just what Fauci said of the World Health Organization.

00:36:42.000 So if you get someone like Dr. Malone, who's like, for the most part, a lone voice, and he's saying things, they're like, someone's gonna sue us, and that's, you can look at a lot of their policies.

00:36:52.000 Fear of liability.

00:36:54.000 So what they're basically saying is, if we just ban everybody who dissents from, like, the official narrative, you can't hold us responsible.

00:37:01.000 But they are the public space.

00:37:03.000 These debates need to happen.

00:37:04.000 They are banning dissenting scientific voices.

00:37:07.000 And I'll show you this.

00:37:08.000 We have this from the Atlantic, a smear piece on Dr. Malone.

00:37:12.000 But it does say, it effectively says that Dr. Malone invented mRNA technology.

00:37:18.000 They say his two studies from 1989, demonstrating how RNA could be delivered into cells using lipids, Which are basically tiny globs of fat which could be used as a vaccine or a vaccine delivery method.

00:37:30.000 So whether or not you want to say he invented mRNA, I'll put it this way.

00:37:34.000 of gene transfer according to Ryan Verbeek, a postdoctoral fellow at Ghent University in Belgium,

00:37:39.000 and the lead author of a 2019 history of mRNA vaccine development. Indeed,

00:37:43.000 Malone's studies are the first two references in Verbeek's paper out of 224 in total.

00:37:49.000 So whether or not you want to say he invented mRNA, I'll put it this way, if like the first

00:37:54.000 ever inception of mRNA technology comes from this one dude or his team, then yeah,

00:38:00.000 isn't that inventing something?

00:38:02.000 It doesn't mean he invented the core products It doesn't mean he made like, you know Thomas Edison invented the light bulb.

00:38:07.000 They say did he invent the fluorescent light bulb?

00:38:09.000 No But you still say he invented the lightbulb, right?

00:38:12.000 They're trying to make it seem like he's got no grounds to communicate.

00:38:16.000 They're lying.

00:38:17.000 They're claiming he's not an expert.

00:38:18.000 There are these government, you know, funded scientists saying things like, he just played a minor role and has nothing to do with it.

00:38:26.000 Is he a PhD?

00:38:27.000 Is he a doctor who specializes in vaccines?

00:38:30.000 Has he worked with the government in this regard?

00:38:31.000 Okay, then why are we not allowed to hear what he has to say?

00:38:35.000 Absolutely.

00:38:36.000 And I don't think Big Tech is worried about lawsuits, because what were you going to sue people for?

00:38:40.000 This scientist provided some scientific data.

00:38:43.000 Sue him! 0.98

00:38:43.000 Get him! 0.98

00:38:44.000 They can't do that.

00:38:45.000 And if anything, the information being provided here adds context and information and allows people to have informed consent.

00:38:52.000 One of the things that Dr. Robert Malone brought up that I thought was very instrumental here, he didn't only talk about the profit incentives of Pfizer here, he also talked about bigger institutions, financial institutions, Like Blackrock he talked about the big financial systems ... that have a lot of egregious power that along with big tech ... are working in unison to stifle out any kind of questioning of ... their product that they're trying to get you to take.

00:39:20.000 That is a scary situation because you're giving people God-like power and authority when you're able to censor information from the general public.

00:39:29.000 That is scary.

00:39:30.000 That is terrifying.

00:39:31.000 And if everyone, everyone should know about this, and I think this is why we're seeing such a huge scramble of people be like, hey, this is absolutely terrifying.

00:39:38.000 I need to move over, get away to a totally different platform where I could actually listen to another side of the story here, which is absolutely critically important.

00:39:46.000 I feel like Joe Rogan's viewership is more now than when it was when he was on YouTube.

00:39:52.000 Yeah.

00:39:53.000 I was wondering, you know, in question the larger move from YouTube to Spotify, and I think if he's able to have a better, closer relationship with Spotify, which it looks like he has, he's able to get away with a lot more.

00:40:05.000 Because if he was still on YouTube, YouTube would have taken the videos down.

00:40:08.000 YouTube is already taking the videos down!

00:40:11.000 So this is one of the ways that he still was able to position himself In a way where these videos are getting tens of millions of downloads and views, but they can't be taken down by YouTube.

00:40:21.000 This is, I think, one of the points of leverage that Rogan would have over Spotify.

00:40:26.000 Spotify is a much smaller company than Google, right?

00:40:29.000 Much smaller company than what Alphabet or YouTube can provide.

00:40:34.000 Meaning that he's a much bigger asset to Spotify, right?

00:40:37.000 I mean, they paid $100 million to bring him over, I think, was the deal.

00:40:41.000 That was what I think Wall Street Journal reported.

00:40:45.000 But you never know, because it could be like over 10 years, you know what I mean?

00:40:48.000 Sure.

00:40:48.000 I doubt it's that long.

00:40:50.000 But the idea is that he's going to be a lot of revenue for them as well, right?

00:40:54.000 Meaning that whatever pressures they have within the company, whatever pressures they get externally from news media, whatever pressures they get externally from government, If he's making them money and they have their own infrastructure, he has a point of leverage over them.

00:40:54.000 Absolutely.

00:41:06.000 And I think that point of leverage is greater than what he would have had over YouTube, given the relative sizes of the companies.

00:41:13.000 I saw this story about a guy whose muscles are turning to bone.

00:41:17.000 You ever hear about that stuff?

00:41:18.000 That disorder?

00:41:19.000 Huh.

00:41:19.000 You've heard about that?

00:41:20.000 No, I haven't.

00:41:21.000 Where it's like, so normally when you exercise your muscles, the proteins will break down and then your body replaces it with proteins and it grows stronger or whatever.

00:41:29.000 I can't tell you exactly how it works.

00:41:31.000 But apparently there are some people that when the muscle breaks, it's replaced with calcium and just starts turning to bone.

00:41:38.000 That's kind of how I feel things are going right now.

00:41:40.000 Over time, when somebody like ages out or retires or moves on from a position, it gets replaced by an ideologue, an immovable object that creates rigidity and structural damage.

00:41:52.000 That's why we're at the point now Where you've got, like, Spotify.

00:41:56.000 Big company probably has a lot of money to lose, a lot of money to make, but you get a small portion of individuals who appear when a certain position opens up, or when a certain position, you know, someone moves on from it.

00:42:07.000 The woke millennial types, or whatever, Gen Z types come in, and then just that one person, it's like bone in your muscle, all of a sudden you're struggling to move, you can't function properly, and the system just starts collapsing and failing.

00:42:18.000 I saw that story, and I was like, it kind of feels like what's happening to our society.

00:42:21.000 You know?

00:42:22.000 At a certain point, they may just put a feeding tube in the mouth of our culture, and that the government will just start subsidizing and funding things out of fear of collapse and economic failure, and then we're doomed.

00:42:32.000 And then they'll give them a whole bunch of fentanyl, but that's my own personal perspective.

00:42:35.000 But you made a very good point, because YouTube could afford to lose Rogan.

00:42:40.000 Spotify can't.

00:42:41.000 They invested into him.

00:42:42.000 And I'll be honest, when Rogan first moved onto Spotify, I was like, there's no way.

00:42:46.000 I'm downloading another app.

00:42:47.000 I'm not doing this.

00:42:49.000 I'll look at the small clips that he releases, but with the debates, with the people that Rogan had on, Robert Kennedy Jr., Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, having these important conversations, I can't miss it.

00:43:03.000 I had to download the app, I had to sign up for an account, and I had to listen to it because it was the only way I could.

00:43:10.000 And it's not just me it's a lot of disenfranchised people who are asking some serious questions that the government can't answer right now as the government has been caught time and time again lying putting their foot in their mouth and absolutely not telling the people the truth it's very evident right now especially with cases surging that all of their plans everything they did.

00:43:30.000 Hasn't hasn't worked at all.

00:43:32.000 So people are left with some serious questions.

00:43:34.000 Rogan is helping those questions be answered by presenting so much data and information and letting them decide what actions and moves to make for themselves with informed consent like they should have had from the very beginning. 0.99

00:43:45.000 Let's talk about how stupid all that cultural stuff is again. 0.97

00:43:48.000 We got this story from CNN.com. 1.00

00:43:50.000 Patton Oswalt defends his longtime friendship with Dave Chappelle.

00:43:55.000 He apologized.

00:43:55.000 No, he didn't.

00:43:57.000 Patton Oswalt was doing a show.

00:43:59.000 Dave Chappelle was doing a bigger show.

00:44:02.000 After Patton Oswalt's show ended, Dave was like, yo, come in, do a set.

00:44:05.000 We got a big arena.

00:44:07.000 And so Patton Oswalt did.

00:44:08.000 And you know what he was probably thinking?

00:44:10.000 Patton Oswalt is famous, but is he Dave Chappelle?

00:44:14.000 No.

00:44:15.000 So imagine you're like, yeah, you're in a band and people have heard of you and you maybe make six figures.

00:44:21.000 You're an opening act.

00:44:21.000 It's alright.

00:44:23.000 And then all of a sudden, like, Metallica at an arena is like, why don't you come in and do a set?

00:44:28.000 You're gonna be like, dude, an arena!

00:44:30.000 And you're gonna go super excited, but oh no!

00:44:32.000 Oh no, people are mad at you now.

00:44:34.000 So Patton Oswalt posts this photo where he's like, look at me, I'm with my friend Dave, I've known him for so long, I'm so happy to be here.

00:44:40.000 And he got attacked for it.

00:44:41.000 People started saying that, uh, you know, uh, he was hurting the LGBTQ community and things like that.

00:44:48.000 That he doesn't understand the damage and the pain.

00:44:50.000 So he takes this other photo on Instagram where he's like, he's got like a yellow notepad and he's writing down something looking pensive in front of the mirror.

00:44:58.000 And he's just like, if I had known the hurt that I would have caused.

00:45:02.000 And he's like, to think I would tell other people they need to, to learn.

00:45:07.000 Grow a spine, dude.

00:45:07.000 Oh, you know what?

00:45:09.000 You took a picture with your friend.

00:45:11.000 That's it.

00:45:12.000 Dave Chappelle's a funny guy.

00:45:14.000 Grow up.

00:45:15.000 It's like he was punished and told by a teacher, write an essay why you're sorry for having a friend for decades.

00:45:21.000 I mean, are you kidding me?

00:45:22.000 There's also a lot of fake news spreading around this.

00:45:25.000 There was a caption that Dave Chappelle stopped to help this elderly lesbian after her suburban broke down.

00:45:31.000 That was fake news.

00:45:32.000 Didn't happen.

00:45:33.000 Just going around with that photo.

00:45:35.000 Just a meme out there.

00:45:36.000 But it tells you what kind of times we're living in where a person who was friends with someone for decades is apologizing for taking a photo with them?

00:45:44.000 That's crazy.

00:45:45.000 You know what's funny is people started going back into Patton Oswalt's old stand-up routines and they found that Patton had made very like I would say it goes beyond just being transgressive.

00:45:56.000 It was almost like mean-spirited jokes about transgender people, like far worse than anything that Chappelle had ever done.

00:46:01.000 This was just a few years ago.

00:46:02.000 It's probably from 2014 or something.

00:46:04.000 People started posting that on Twitter, like, oh, Pat, no, you're so embarrassed of, you know, Dave Chappelle and you were doing this. 0.59

00:46:09.000 But I think that's part of the rhetorical move you have to make when you're in these circles and that a few years ago, if you wanted to be like a bully, you would be making like anti-transgender jokes or making anti-gay jokes or blah, blah, blah. 0.90

00:46:23.000 Now if you want to be a bully, you got to be woke, right? 0.61

00:46:24.000 You got to be woke about it.

00:46:25.000 You can still be like really hateful and like spiteful towards people and you can still basically be that bully, but you're going to have to do it in a different direction.

00:46:34.000 I think that's what Patton Oswalt, he's orienting himself to where he feels like his Hollywood milieu is now, which is that, you know, Dave Chappelle is one of the most popular entertainers in America, but he may not be that popular among a certain subset of cultural liberals in Hollywood, right?

00:46:46.000 The one segment of people in the news media Yeah, well, that all seems to be going away, I guess.

00:46:51.000 Except for the fact, you know, Netflix keeps signing more and more deals with Dave Chappelle.

00:46:54.000 Honestly, if you polled most transgender people in America, I think most of them probably

00:46:57.000 wouldn't even have been offended because most of them were in good taste.

00:47:02.000 And if you look at his routines, he makes fun of everybody.

00:47:04.000 And most of those people don't get offended at it because they understand the purpose

00:47:07.000 and role of comedy and levity in society, right?

00:47:10.000 Yeah, well, that all seems to be going away, I guess, except for the fact, you know, Netflix

00:47:13.000 keeps signing more and more deals with Dave Chappelle.

00:47:15.000 So let me just say this.

00:47:17.000 Dave Chappelle is being signed to Netflix because Netflix has the data.

00:47:21.000 Netflix looks at who's watching Dave Chappelle and they're like, wow, everybody loves this guy.

00:47:26.000 Let's give him more money.

00:47:28.000 You see, Netflix doesn't make money off of advertisements.

00:47:31.000 They make money off of memberships.

00:47:33.000 If they book Dave Chappelle to do a headline, you know, major special on Netflix and they give him, how much, how much are they paying him?

00:47:38.000 It's like tens of millions of dollars.

00:47:40.000 An employee leaked the information to the general public.

00:47:43.000 It wasn't like 25 million or something.

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:45.000 It was a lot.

00:47:46.000 Man, you know what, look, I know Dave's the best of the best, and it takes a lot of work to do these specials, but that much money for that much work?

00:47:54.000 It's just like, wow, when you're good, you're good, right?

00:47:57.000 But Netflix is thinking, we are going to gain more paying subscribers by booking this guy than we will lose over any outrage.

00:48:04.000 We've known this.

00:48:06.000 The leftist outrage, the faux complaints, it's like 30 people on Twitter who won't stop talking and they convince people, like Patton Oswalt, he gets convinced, oh, everyone's mad at me because he got like 30 people constantly spamming him over and over and over again.

00:48:22.000 Reminds me of that Family Guy joke where the guy's like, we got seven phone calls last night, which means 70 billion people are upset.

00:48:30.000 That's what it is.

00:48:31.000 So Dave Chappelle is going to keep getting booked.

00:48:33.000 We're going to keep laughing, but you guys, I don't know if you guys saw his last special.

00:48:38.000 They're getting to him.

00:48:39.000 Oh yeah.

00:48:40.000 He was defensive.

00:48:41.000 He spends a lot of, I would say the past few specials, he spends a portion of the time sort of defending himself against claims being made against him, right?

00:48:49.000 Which is not really where you want to be as a comedian.

00:48:51.000 You want to focus on the jokes, on the entertainment.

00:48:54.000 It does sound like, you know, if I was him, maybe I'd avoid some of those jokes in the next special, focus on some different topics, or just take some time off, but, you know, he's in that space now, and I think it's just, it is, again, that small minority of persistent angry people can do this to you if you're in certain social spaces, even if the vast majority of America, I think, understands that Dave Chappelle's always been a little bit risqué.

00:49:15.000 He's always been a little bit edgy, but he's there to make you laugh.

00:49:18.000 He doesn't actually hate anybody.

00:49:19.000 He doesn't try to make anyone hate anybody.

00:49:22.000 But that's where a lot of these spaces are now, and that's why someone like Patton Oswalt feels like he has to apologize for a friendship with one of the most, probably one of the most popular entertainers in the entire country.

00:49:31.000 But they made Dave Chappelle get serious, and that's what really kind of affected everything.

00:49:35.000 And you bring up a small amount of people.

00:49:37.000 We have to understand that these small amount of people have a lot of institutional power, especially when it comes

00:49:42.000 to the corporate media literally promoting a Netflix protest, saying, speaking about it. But

00:49:47.000 when you talk about something and say there's going to be a big protest here, there's going

00:49:50.000 to be a protest here, you're bringing attention to it. Just to clarify though, when we're

00:49:54.000 talking about a small amount of people, we're talking about, you know, John, you know, at John 96321

00:50:00.000 on Twitter.

00:50:01.000 It's these random profiles where they have no followers.

00:50:05.000 They're not necessarily bots.

00:50:06.000 I don't think they're bots.

00:50:07.000 They could be sock puppets.

00:50:09.000 But someone like Patton Oswalt, you look at his tweet about this, and he's just inundated with like, you can really only see maybe like 30 to 50 tweets or whatever, like unless you really want to scroll through everything.

00:50:19.000 And they're like, do better.

00:50:21.000 I can't believe you would do this.

00:50:22.000 Dave's hurting us.

00:50:23.000 And you're like, that's probably 30 to 50 people.

00:50:27.000 Out of the millions of people who follow Patton Oswalt, how many are logging onto Twitter,

00:50:33.000 clicking his post, and then complaining .001%?

00:50:40.000 But people see these things and they assume that, wow, everybody's mad, I better talk

00:50:45.000 about something, making it worse.

00:50:47.000 Dave Chappelle gets dragged into it.

00:50:49.000 He got serious.

00:50:50.000 And there was a CNN article generated about this, right?

00:50:54.000 There was actually a CBC journalist, a Canadian Broadcast Corporation journalist, who just resigned from her post.

00:50:59.000 And she just wrote a substatic piece about why. 0.99

00:51:01.000 And one of the complaints that she had was that, you know, you guys kept running these articles about how people find Dave Chappelle offensive.

00:51:07.000 Why didn't we ever go to the vast majority of people who just like him and ask them what they think, right?

00:51:12.000 The media may be a small number of people, but it is a powerful institution.

00:51:15.000 And you know they're going to be writing articles about you.

00:51:17.000 You know that someone's going to be taking issue with it.

00:51:20.000 Even if it's a few dozen people at Netflix, it's going to be portrayed as a massive staff revolt.

00:51:23.000 You know, that is a headache in and of itself.

00:51:26.000 Imagine the narrative being that Netflix knows their audience doesn't like Dave Chappelle.

00:51:32.000 That people are greatly offended and don't watch it, and they booked him anyway. 1.00

00:51:36.000 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 1.00

00:51:38.000 No. 1.00

00:51:38.000 They're booking him because he's bringing in members. 1.00

00:51:41.000 He's bringing in money.

00:51:42.000 Now for me, I don't have a Netflix account ever since they did that thing with the cuties.

00:51:47.000 I was like, whoa!

00:51:49.000 Did they like double down on it?

00:51:51.000 It's bad enough Netflix has that show about... I don't even want to talk about this show.

00:51:56.000 A bunch of mainstream celebrities talking about kids in adult situations and that is putting it very lightly.

00:52:04.000 I'm surprised they have that show in the first place.

00:52:06.000 I don't know anybody who watches it, to be completely honest.

00:52:09.000 And, like, for the most part, you know, we're not like a staunch conservative suit-wearing TPUSA kind of place around here.

00:52:16.000 You know, we have, like, skaters, skateboarders, rollerbladers, punk rock, music.

00:52:20.000 Contrarians. 1.00

00:52:22.000 Relative contrarians, to a certain degree.

00:52:23.000 And people aren't just being like, oh, turn on, you know, Big Mouth on Netflix.

00:52:26.000 That's a show I like.

00:52:27.000 People are like, that's nasty.

00:52:29.000 Like, I don't know what they were thinking with that show.

00:52:30.000 It's just whatever.

00:52:31.000 But hey, look, I'm not interested in watching a show like that or watching Cuties.

00:52:35.000 And if they want to keep doubling down on that stuff, I'm not going to be interested in being a member or subscribing to a platform like that.

00:52:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:52:43.000 And I think that raises a lot more controversy, especially with the Cuties.

00:52:47.000 A lot of people not signing up then compared to Dave Chappelle.

00:52:50.000 That's only from my perspective.

00:52:51.000 I could be wrong.

00:52:52.000 But again, they continue to work with Dave Chappelle.

00:52:55.000 That's a big sign that obviously the general public, a large, vast amount of people like his comedy.

00:53:01.000 They want to hear edgy stuff.

00:53:02.000 They want to hear stuff that lightens the situation.

00:53:05.000 And when you're able to joke about issues that The establishment doesn't want you to talk about it.

00:53:10.000 If you're able to joke around serious issues, you're able to, of course, make people relate to them better.

00:53:15.000 You're able to, of course, get rid of a lot of the stigma, a lot of the hate, a lot of the negative energy around it.

00:53:20.000 I would say comedians are absolutely crucial towards bettering society, bettering our discourse.

00:53:26.000 And this is an effort to, as we were talking about earlier, destroy that conversation and to create more echo chambers.

00:53:32.000 I feel like almost the way that comedy is getting around this a little bit is A lot of these networks are bringing in either foreign or I think maybe more cultural, you know, niche cultural subjects and actors and producers to produce a lot of the same stuff.

00:53:47.000 Like if you watch some of the foreign programming on Netflix, I think you'll find much kind of racier jokes or much edgier, more risque material than I think what you might see in a Dave Chappelle stand-up. 0.83

00:53:59.000 And I think part of that is that you kind of get an out, right?

00:54:02.000 if it's like if it's a foreign produced if it happens to be international comedy

00:54:06.000 or international cultures maybe these same subcultures of Americans in these

00:54:10.000 companies and institutions and me to give it a little bit more of a pass

00:54:13.000 right which is kind of funny like if you have to watch like a Korean drama to be

00:54:17.000 able to like see funny comedy about topics that people want to be

00:54:22.000 transgressive about but it almost feels like you have to do that sometimes

00:54:25.000 There's a video on YouTube that we bring up every so often.

00:54:29.000 It is from August 9th, 2010.

00:54:31.000 It is from The Onion, and it is titled, Overcome Stress by Visualizing It as a Greedy Hook-Nosed Race of Creatures.

00:54:40.000 It's The Onion and I can't even tell you what the jokes are about because I'm wondering if we can because it's on YouTube itself but it's a woman and she's like when you have money troubles visualize a greedy hook-nosed race of creatures and it's very obviously like a demeaning picture like a very disgusting picture of a stare like I don't even I don't even want to I don't even want to get into it I don't get the point is I think People understand the joke The Onion's making here.

00:55:09.000 Terrible.

00:55:10.000 And this has got 1.5 million views.

00:55:12.000 YouTube still has it up.

00:55:14.000 This is what comedy was just 10 years ago for these networks.

00:55:17.000 Now, comedy's turned into like what South Park did the joke with Jimmy.

00:55:21.000 He's like, hey, what's the deal with Mexican food?

00:55:24.000 It's excellent cuisine and I love it.

00:55:27.000 Like, it's not even a joke!

00:55:29.000 I mean, actually, it is kind of funny when you're making fun of it.

00:55:32.000 Well, one show I really like is called Rami, and I don't know if you guys have seen Rami, but basically it's about, it stars an Egyptian-American who's also the writer and showrunner.

00:55:43.000 And, you know, he lives in New Jersey and he has an Egyptian-American family.

00:55:47.000 He's trying to grow up in the States with kind of these cultural clashes and like he has an uncle who's like very anti-semitic and like constantly making Jew jokes but he like he still loves them even though he kind of tells him that's like not right to do that but like yeah that's the cultural context you have to go to just to discuss something like that because like it's not openly like if the character was like white American or like Christian or something like they wouldn't be allowed to have an uncle who does that and like talk about it and like actually normalize it and let people like talk around their differences because

00:56:17.000 You have to actually cast a character like that and have a showrunner like that to be actually able to approach these issues now because there's so much sensitivity in talking about cultural differences, right?

00:56:26.000 If you watch some of those older shows like Good Times or The Jeffersons from the 60s and 70s, they openly talked about racial stereotypes of whites and blacks between each other.

00:56:36.000 That's how they broke down a lot of the difference.

00:56:38.000 Now it's just like you just have to say the party line.

00:56:41.000 You break these things down by just beating things into people's heads rather than actually letting them be open about their prejudices and talking them through, right?

00:56:47.000 I mean, you look at, uh, uh, Patton Oswalt as a person, and then you look at Dave Chappelle as a person, and I'm just like, I kinda know who I'd rather watch if I was given the opportunity.

00:56:55.000 The, you know, the whiny crybaby who's like, I'm so sorry for all the pain, or Dave Chappelle who doubles down.

00:57:01.000 Granted, he got a little bit defensive on his last special, for sure, but absolutely was like, I don't care!

00:57:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:06.000 I'm gonna say what I want!

00:57:07.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's more appealing to me.

00:57:09.000 Well that's why they're trying to get rid of him anyone speaking truth is is deemed as a heretic in this new kind of cult of woke and he's the one willing to speak the larger truths that a lot of people are thinking but too afraid to say and we're pretty far away from the days of George Carlin Richard Pryor and Bill Hicks but man.

00:57:09.000 It's more honest.

00:57:27.000 Did those individuals make comedy great make the First Amendment something that a lot of people stood behind and these larger ideas that they represented that they were able the effect that they were able to have on people was so important and I don't think enough people attribute them to the larger successes that we have as a country as a nation as a culture.

00:57:49.000 Because of these individuals that stood on their principles and in some instances were even arrested for it.

00:57:53.000 So, shout out to those individuals.

00:57:56.000 If you haven't heard of them, if you're someone who never heard of these names, look them up.

00:58:00.000 Look up their old videos and be prepared to be astonished at the larger truth bombs that they were dropping on people that absolutely have awakened humanity.

00:58:09.000 You have a list of names?

00:58:11.000 I just listed three of them.

00:58:13.000 I could probably think of some more.

00:58:14.000 What are your favorite comedians?

00:58:16.000 I mean, Eddie Murphy, too.

00:58:17.000 Eddie Murphy was also able to go to places that a lot of people saw as extremely controversial.

00:58:22.000 He doubled down, tripled down on it, especially when it came to Bill Cosby.

00:58:27.000 Eddie Murphy called out Bill Cosby way before anybody else in a very, very important way.

00:58:33.000 Who's your guys' favorite?

00:58:35.000 Um, so my favorite comedians are not really all that transgressive.

00:58:35.000 Linda?

00:58:38.000 I never really got into George Carlin.

00:58:40.000 Um, but I feel like every comedian has some form of history of offensive jokes that they now are walking back.

00:58:46.000 And I've always felt that a lot of these comedians have made a point of pulling up the ladder behind them, which I really hate to see.

00:58:52.000 I would like to see some of them with some form of character, which is why I really liked Dave Chappelle.

00:58:56.000 And I do hope this is not getting to him. 0.96

00:58:58.000 Or all these comedians just be like, shut up. 0.98

00:59:01.000 I'm gonna make jokes. 0.99

00:59:01.000 I don't care. 0.99

00:59:02.000 Yep.

00:59:06.000 In the 1990s, Congress brought a series of people to testify and grill them.

00:59:12.000 Some of them were the heads of labels for musicians and artists, recording artists.

00:59:18.000 Others were heads of video game firms like Sega of America and so on and so forth.

00:59:23.000 And, universally, what they would say is, like, this is our freedom of expression.

00:59:27.000 We don't think that this is going to promote real-world violence or real-world misogyny, real-world, etc., etc.

00:59:33.000 You know, this is a place that people go to escape, so on and so forth.

00:59:36.000 Now, those very same firms, when they're grilled by Congress, when they're grilled by the media, typically they...

00:59:42.000 Concede something right typically they back down or they try to appease the the opposition I think the culture of their response has changed a lot in the face of a lot of these protests and I'm not sure what the difference is between now and the 1990s, but you'll see You know, Tipper Gore, Bob Dole, Joe Lieberman, Bill Clinton, these people all going after these companies and the company's just responding that it's our right to be able to speak freely and, you know, it's entertainment.

01:00:08.000 It's not real life, right?

01:00:10.000 People in the comment section are bringing up Andrew Dice Clay, Lenny Bruce, Norm McDonald, and also, of course, Bob Saget.

01:00:21.000 He right there.

01:00:22.000 I mean, if there's something that's going to raise a couple hairs on your head, it's definitely the comedy of Bob Saget.

01:00:28.000 So there's been a number of individuals.

01:00:30.000 And I think the reason why we go to comedians is because they're able to talk about these issues that so many people are afraid to talk about.

01:00:38.000 And there's not only a layer of controversy.

01:00:41.000 People are also talking about Patrice O'Neill.

01:00:43.000 He was also really just an amazing comedian.

01:00:46.000 Mel Brooks as well.

01:00:47.000 But they're able to You know, hash things out through a way that is bringing people together instead of dividing them.

01:00:55.000 And if you want to push the divide-and-conquer agenda effectively, you have to get rid of comedy, you have to get rid of satire, because it's one of the most effective weapons against the establishment, against the ruling elite, against the very powerful, because if you mock them, you take away all of their power and all of their influence, and we need more mockery than ever.

01:01:13.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is 2022.

01:01:15.000 Yes.

01:01:16.000 Welcome to the first show of the year on TimCast IRL.

01:01:19.000 And this is an election year.

01:01:21.000 It is a main election year.

01:01:23.000 2020 was the biggest election year.

01:01:27.000 2019 was the primary season.

01:01:29.000 2018 was the midterms.

01:01:31.000 2021 is when everyone is just zoned out.

01:01:35.000 They are beaten down and tired.

01:01:37.000 2022, the House, the Senate, They're at stake.

01:01:43.000 And there are predictions from many pollsters, many analysts, of a red tsunami.

01:01:51.000 Now, it's not just that people are sick and tired of Democrats, that independent voters are favoring Republicans in the double digits.

01:01:59.000 It's that gerrymandering also just happened.

01:02:01.000 Redistricting happened.

01:02:03.000 And now there's an expectation that all of these Republican-controlled states, because people were voting in their local elections, have set it up so that Republicans are more likely to win.

01:02:12.000 Combined with the fact that we have a massive number of Democrats retiring, Fox News reports surge in House Democratic 2022 retirement announcements as 2021 comes to a close.

01:02:24.000 They say a trio of Democrats in the House, Reps Stephanie Murphy of Florida, Lucille Roybal-Allard of California, and Albio Sires of New Jersey last week said they'll retire at the end of next year.

01:02:36.000 rather than run in the 2022 midterm elections for another term in Congress.

01:02:39.000 The latest news brought to 23 the number of House Democrats who are retiring or bidding for another

01:02:45.000 office. We just got news that I think, who was it? Bobby Rush? Yeah, was it? Is also not gonna

01:02:50.000 be seeking re-election. There's actually an announcement from a bunch of Democrats who had

01:02:55.000 lost in 2018, who are gonna try and run again. Also now announcing they're not even gonna bother

01:02:59.000 trying to run, even though they aren't in office. Something is happening. I think the Democrats see

01:03:05.000 the writing on the wall.

01:03:06.000 Nobody wants to be that losing candidate.

01:03:09.000 So they're like, what's the point?

01:03:10.000 If you can't win, do something else.

01:03:12.000 A bunch of these Democrats are running for other offices, you know, in the state, governorships or whatever.

01:03:17.000 Many are just bowing out.

01:03:19.000 I don't know, man.

01:03:21.000 Red Wave?

01:03:21.000 What do you think?

01:03:24.000 It seems like if the election were held next week, that would be the case, right?

01:03:30.000 The question, I think, is can the Democrats instill some confidence on issues like what's happening in the economy, what's happening with COVID?

01:03:37.000 I think Biden's Biden's mandate was basically normalcy, right?

01:03:41.000 Can he create a normal political, social, and economic environment?

01:03:44.000 And I think part of that is like getting past the pandemic.

01:03:47.000 Part of that is getting past COVID-19.

01:03:49.000 And I think there's people within his political party that really don't want to do that.

01:03:53.000 They're not ready for that.

01:03:54.000 I think they've inculcated a certain mindset among a lot of the Democrats on COVID-19 that it's just very hard to overcome, even though there are signs that I think the Biden administration is pushing in that direction.

01:04:04.000 I don't think they're going to be able...

01:04:05.000 Look, I hate to say I know what's going to happen.

01:04:08.000 I don't.

01:04:08.000 Based on everything we've seen with the polls, I think it's fairly likely the Democrats, they know what's happening.

01:04:13.000 The writing's on the wall.

01:04:14.000 But I want to show you, you mentioned Joe Biden.

01:04:16.000 I want to show you this meme that's been going around.

01:04:17.000 I did not make this.

01:04:19.000 It says, 2020, Biden-Harris.

01:04:21.000 Every single COVID death is someone Donald Trump murdered.

01:04:24.000 2021, Joe Biden eating an ice cream cone.

01:04:26.000 There's nothing I can do, Jack.

01:04:28.000 That's where we're at.

01:04:29.000 Joe Biden, the Democrats, look, I think the Democrats voters, they voted for Biden because they hate Trump.

01:04:35.000 Without Trump, they have no identity.

01:04:37.000 That was their whole rally.

01:04:39.000 Their whole rallying cry was orange man bad, and now there's nothing.

01:04:42.000 Going into the midterms, you've got parents who are livid.

01:04:45.000 You've got an economy in shambles.

01:04:47.000 You've got Joe Biden saying there's nothing we can do at the federal level.

01:04:49.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

01:04:51.000 You vote in the primaries and get rid of all the establishment Republicans.

01:04:55.000 Bring in some populists who believe in America.

01:04:56.000 They'll bring your jobs back.

01:04:58.000 They'll secure your borders. 0.67

01:04:59.000 They'll make sure the country's economy is getting back on track.

01:05:03.000 I don't necessarily have anything to say about an individual candidate.

01:05:06.000 But I'll tell you, the Democrats ain't gonna do it.

01:05:08.000 They have become the party of big business, massive corporate wealth.

01:05:12.000 You take a look at people like Hasan Piker, who is one of the most prominent voices among progressives, and he supports the government mandating you be administered a private product from a massive, multinational, unaccountable corporation with no liability protections.

01:05:28.000 And I don't care what the dude says he claims about You know, I don't care what his claims are about supporting universal healthcare and nationalization of Big Pharma.

01:05:34.000 It's like, dude, you're sitting here right now telling us that you want the government to be able to mandate a private product to be administered to people if they want to engage in public accommodations, if they want to be able to use these things.

01:05:48.000 I'm sorry, this is what the modern left is?

01:05:52.000 He's one of the, if not the biggest, political commentator on the left.

01:05:55.000 And that's what young leftists follow.

01:05:58.000 Support for that kind of system.

01:06:00.000 Not always.

01:06:01.000 Not everybody who watches likes him.

01:06:02.000 I get that.

01:06:03.000 But that, to me, is insane.

01:06:04.000 I can sit here all day and say that a lot of Trump supporters are in a cult and worship the ground Trump walks on. 0.78

01:06:11.000 I can say that Donald Trump represents the worst of American culture, in my opinion.

01:06:16.000 I can say he had a lot of really good policies.

01:06:18.000 And as much as a lot of people didn't like him for who he was, He was actually bringing factories back.

01:06:22.000 He was trying to secure America's borders and bolster our economy.

01:06:25.000 So people, whether they liked him or not, they voted for him.

01:06:28.000 There's certainly a lot of people who love him.

01:06:29.000 We're not getting that from the establishment.

01:06:31.000 The Democrats are offering us nothing other than Trump is bad.

01:06:33.000 And people, they're like, I don't know anything about that at that point.

01:06:36.000 Trump's not the president.

01:06:37.000 The economy is in shambles.

01:06:39.000 My life is not going well.

01:06:40.000 I'm tired of the lockdowns.

01:06:41.000 They just brought back mask mandates down the street because we're on the border of the county.

01:06:46.000 And it makes literally no sense.

01:06:47.000 And I'm like, these people need to be stripped of all power They are completely insane, and that is the Democratic Party and the Republican establishment.

01:06:56.000 So, one of the things I noticed, one of the things I think the Democrats really should have done, and then I have a question for you, is they should have run on getting rid of Trump, because that's a pretty strong platform, and then the first thing they should have done is turned and said, we have to have issues that we're fighting for, not just stuff that we're fighting against, because that's not a winning strategy in the long term.

01:07:14.000 They had to have known this.

01:07:16.000 I just don't think they were thinking anywhere near far enough past stage one.

01:07:19.000 And then for you, in your meme here, you use the term mass formation psychosis.

01:07:24.000 And I haven't really been able to get into this, but I keep seeing it.

01:07:27.000 Can you, like, unpack that for us?

01:07:30.000 Well, I just used that phrase in reference to, it's a cult.

01:07:34.000 It's a cult that's formed.

01:07:36.000 I've long said that they're a chaotic and destructive force, the left.

01:07:40.000 I don't like the idea of, I've actually been critical of those, it's critical race theory over and over again, because what's happening on the left isn't just critical race theory.

01:07:49.000 That's why I like to say wokeness or something. 0.71

01:07:51.000 It is, all of these things are just an amalgam of contrarian, I hate the other, that's our identity.

01:07:59.000 You know, it's really funny.

01:08:00.000 You look at Reddit, you look at the comments, and they'll say, all the Trump cult, they just hate the other side.

01:08:04.000 It's like, who are you listening to?

01:08:06.000 Who are you watching?

01:08:07.000 Because if you watch, like, I don't know, Steven Crowder, one of the most prominent, independent, conservative voices, he's actually making arguments.

01:08:14.000 He doesn't just hate you.

01:08:15.000 In fact, he tries to debate you, to bring you on and convince you of these things.

01:08:18.000 Who are they actually listening to?

01:08:20.000 Oh, CNN.

01:08:21.000 Brian Stelter, Jake Tapper, Cuomo.

01:08:24.000 Well, he's gone.

01:08:25.000 Things like that.

01:08:26.000 Mass formation psychosis, in my view, I'm just referencing all of these people.

01:08:31.000 Their world was getting crazy.

01:08:34.000 Social media was crazy.

01:08:35.000 They latched on to this narrative that Trump was the cause of all of it.

01:08:39.000 And you were mentioning something earlier that Michael Malice said.

01:08:42.000 They thought Donald Trump was the river when he was actually the dam.

01:08:45.000 Yeah, I messaged you.

01:08:46.000 I said that one of the most insightful things that I think I've ever heard a modern political commentator say is something Michael Mao said, and that was they thought that Trump was the river.

01:08:56.000 Wait, what was it he said?

01:08:58.000 They thought Trump was the river, but he was actually the dam.

01:09:00.000 So that means that he was kind of holding back this huge wave of populism.

01:09:00.000 Yes.

01:09:04.000 He was really just the tip of the iceberg, which is something that they weren't counting on.

01:09:08.000 And now I think they're seeing the other side of that.

01:09:10.000 When Donald Trump goes on stage with Bill O'Reilly and he gets booed by his audience, it's not a cult.

01:09:15.000 Right.

01:09:16.000 It is angry people.

01:09:18.000 They are America first individuals.

01:09:20.000 They are fed up with all of this.

01:09:22.000 I think the Democrats know all of this.

01:09:24.000 All right.

01:09:25.000 Pop quiz.

01:09:25.000 All right.

01:09:25.000 Hot shots.

01:09:26.000 Name a Democrat who could win a presidential election.

01:09:30.000 Like right now.

01:09:30.000 Name somebody.

01:09:31.000 I've been thinking about that.

01:09:32.000 Oprah.

01:09:33.000 Oprah.

01:09:34.000 Michelle Obama.

01:09:34.000 Yeah, Oprah.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, Michelle Obama.

01:09:36.000 Michelle Obama, Oprah.

01:09:37.000 Actively right now in politics.

01:09:39.000 Right now in politics.

01:09:40.000 Trump was never in politics either, right?

01:09:42.000 in politics either. Trump was planning on running. He ran a number of times. He lost before.

01:09:42.000 He ran a number of times.

01:09:42.000 He lost before, yeah.

01:09:49.000 So I'll be the first to say, I've stated before, I think Michelle Obama could win. I don't think

01:09:53.000 she can win at this point. I do not think so. But obviously Michelle Obama, because if you take a

01:09:58.000 celebrity and put them in a position, they might get the votes. 0.68

01:10:02.000 But like, I mean, like who among Democrats right now?

01:10:05.000 I mean, Oprah is a TV show host.

01:10:06.000 They don't have a bench, right?

01:10:08.000 They have not developed it because their leadership is so old.

01:10:08.000 Right.

01:10:11.000 They have a young generation, but those young generation are way too young, right?

01:10:14.000 Like people in their early 30s are not going to be running for president, right?

01:10:18.000 So they don't have that middle layer of people of kind of like statesmen and stateswomen who could just jump into the presidential spot.

01:10:25.000 You know, typically in this scenario, you'd line up the vice president, but nobody likes the vice president.

01:10:30.000 She's even more unpopular than Joe Biden is, right?

01:10:30.000 Yep.

01:10:33.000 Actually, I think that flipped recently.

01:10:34.000 Oh, did it?

01:10:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:35.000 Okay.

01:10:36.000 I think his approval dropped below hers.

01:10:38.000 That's really bad.

01:10:38.000 It's so bad.

01:10:39.000 That's even worse!

01:10:40.000 Oh my gosh.

01:10:41.000 Yep.

01:10:42.000 So I think come 2022, the Democrats have awakened to the reality.

01:10:47.000 Without Trump, they have nothing.

01:10:50.000 And the right doesn't need Trump.

01:10:53.000 I live in Virginia.

01:10:54.000 I did some reporting on the election, and at one point I got a mailer from the Democratic Party of Virginia about Glenn Youngkin, their Republican candidate.

01:11:02.000 And it was full of Trump quotes about Glenn Youngkin.

01:11:05.000 It was just talking about how Trump has endorsed Youngkin, how much he likes Youngkin.

01:11:08.000 Didn't say anything about the Democratic candidate.

01:11:10.000 Didn't really say anything about Youngkin himself.

01:11:12.000 Just talked about Trump.

01:11:14.000 McAuliffe, the Democratic candidate for governor who lost, kept talking about Trump.

01:11:18.000 Every other line out of his mouth was Trump.

01:11:20.000 Trump, Trump, Trump.

01:11:21.000 That's their motivating factor, right?

01:11:23.000 They, you know, it's the dog running after the car.

01:11:26.000 They caught the car.

01:11:26.000 Trump's gone.

01:11:28.000 Trump is gone, but that's still their campaigns.

01:11:31.000 That's still their focus is Trump.

01:11:32.000 And the problem is that that might work for the hardcore Democratic faithful, but a lot of those people in between The Wall Street Journal had a really good article about how Hispanics are now split between the parties.

01:11:43.000 We had Ruy Tejera on our podcast on InquireMore.com, who is the emerging Democratic majority author, whose thesis has been badly misinterpreted.

01:11:52.000 He was saying it's not true that just because America is going to have many more minorities, the Democrats are automatically going to win, because Hispanics care about basic bread-and-butter issues.

01:12:02.000 They don't want to defund police.

01:12:04.000 They don't want a radical social agenda.

01:12:06.000 You know, these are very middle-of-the-road type voters, and I think these middle-of-the-road type voters, you know, just being against one person for the rest of their life, Donald Trump, is not a motivation to vote, right?

01:12:17.000 Getting things basically working in their lives is the motivation to vote, and the Democrats really aren't doing that when there's a permanent COVID emergency that they just can't overcome, right?

01:12:26.000 And they have to either admit what they're doing doesn't work, and that they've wasted your time, or that it's over and they lose that emergency power, that fear factor.

01:12:35.000 I'll tell you what I care about.

01:12:36.000 For one, the economy is trash, inflation is through the roof, and we need to get this country working again.

01:12:41.000 The current policies are a disaster. 0.56

01:12:43.000 But I also want to mention the insanity of it all.

01:12:45.000 So this past weekend, I was with my girlfriend, we went to go eat sushi.

01:12:49.000 We walk into this restaurant, which is, I kid you not, the restaurant was probably about as big as two of this studio room.

01:12:55.000 So that's like, you know, 15 by 35, the restaurant was probably like 15 by 50 or something.

01:13:02.000 There was a table about 10 feet away from where we were standing.

01:13:05.000 We walk up the stairs and there's a waiter, he's wearing a mask, and he sees us and he goes, do you have masks?

01:13:09.000 And we were like, no, we don't have any.

01:13:11.000 The mask man literally came back the day before.

01:13:14.000 It was at 5 p.m.

01:13:15.000 on December 31st, so we're there on like, you know, New Year's Day or whatever, like, you know, we're just gonna grab some sushi.

01:13:20.000 And he's like, well, you need to wear them.

01:13:20.000 Like, no, we don't have any.

01:13:22.000 And then I look around and I see 20 people sitting down and I'm like, nobody's wearing a mask.

01:13:27.000 Like, they're all sitting here, and they were like, well, they're sitting down.

01:13:29.000 And I was like, alright, can I, can we just sit down?

01:13:31.000 Like, there's a table literally 10 feet in front of us.

01:13:33.000 And he was like, yes, but you have to have a mask.

01:13:36.000 And I was like, but no one is wearing one!

01:13:39.000 Like, there's, they're all talking, they're all laughing, they're all eating, and they're not wearing masks.

01:13:43.000 But I wasn't, I was like, okay, no, I get it, we'll sit down.

01:13:45.000 And he says, fine, but if you get up, you have to have a mask.

01:13:47.000 So he hands us masks, we say, okay, no problem, I don't care.

01:13:50.000 And then he's grabbing the menus to take the two seconds to walk us to our seat, when all of a sudden, behind the counter to my right, I hear someone yell, put the mask on!

01:13:58.000 And then I was like, we're gonna sit down.

01:13:58.000 Wow.

01:14:00.000 They're like, no, you have to wear it.

01:14:01.000 What?

01:14:02.000 And then I was like, but I can take it off when I sit down.

01:14:03.000 They're like, yes.

01:14:04.000 And I went, are you serious?

01:14:06.000 And they all, all the staff go, yes!

01:14:08.000 And I was like, dude, I am outta here, man.

01:14:11.000 Like, there is a certain degree to where, when all this started, they said mask mandates.

01:14:15.000 I'm like, I get it, man.

01:14:16.000 Masks stop you from spitting on people.

01:14:18.000 They don't stop the aerosolized virus, to my understanding.

01:14:20.000 But spitting on people can also transmit, so that I get.

01:14:23.000 That makes sense to me.

01:14:24.000 But when you're in a restaurant, and they're like, take this disposable mask you're gonna throw away in 30 seconds.

01:14:29.000 We don't actually expect you to wear it while you're here, but you have to pretend to be doing something for some reason.

01:14:34.000 I'm like, dude, why are you doing this?

01:14:36.000 This is going beyond insane.

01:14:38.000 And that is something that Frederick County and a couple counties in Maryland are doing.

01:14:44.000 New York has Vax or Mask as a statewide policy now.

01:14:49.000 And I'm like, look, if you want to go to a record store, I understand that argument. 0.97

01:14:53.000 But if you don't have logic behind your policies, then you are cowards. 1.00

01:14:57.000 You are insane. 1.00

01:14:58.000 And this doesn't make any sense. 1.00

01:15:00.000 So I'll tell you this.

01:15:00.000 If the Democrats are going to keep running on ridiculous, and not to mention polluting Yeah.

01:15:06.000 that are just insane. 0.99

01:15:06.000 Yep. 0.99

01:15:07.000 We're environmentalists, we don't like global warming, but take this piece of trash you're gonna throw away 0.98

01:15:11.000 and not actually wear. 0.99

01:15:12.000 Like, they handed me garbage.

01:15:13.000 They literally hand me garbage to sit down and throw in the trash.

01:15:15.000 Yep.

01:15:16.000 That was it for no other reason.

01:15:17.000 Yep.

01:15:17.000 So, you know, we did.

01:15:18.000 We got in the car, we drove only a few minutes because we're on a, it's a border county.

01:15:21.000 And then there we were eating sushi with no mask.

01:15:23.000 Like, what is wrong with these people, man?

01:15:25.000 That's what I'm sick of. 0.93

01:15:26.000 I'm sick of the Democrats like AOC.

01:15:28.000 She's in New York and she says, Kathy Hochul, maybe she could give Ron DeSantis some tips.

01:15:33.000 Oh, is that true?

01:15:34.000 AOC, you flew down to Miami to party with no mask on while saying that ending the mask mandate in Texas was gonna get people killed.

01:15:41.000 And then you think Ron DeSantis needs tips?

01:15:44.000 Yo, you're going down, you don't believe in your own policies, but the cult members in your state don't read, they don't pay attention, and they vote for people like you.

01:15:52.000 I'm sick of it, man.

01:15:53.000 Vote them all out, but I'll tell you this, if you don't vote in the primaries, you will get a bunch of neocon crackpots who the first thing they do is they go, now that we've been elected, we're going to stand by the mandate of the American people and re-invade Afghanistan!

01:16:06.000 And great, that's exactly what the people want.

01:16:08.000 But Tim, just really quickly, you don't get it.

01:16:12.000 The masks work so well the first time, the COVID policies worked so well the first time, that we just have to do them again, okay?

01:16:18.000 You know what I was thinking?

01:16:19.000 Maybe it's because we only wore two masks.

01:16:21.000 Maybe we should wear four.

01:16:22.000 That's right, yeah.

01:16:23.000 Well, I think you brought up a good point, though, in that the Republicans could fall into the same trap now, which is that they could see that democratic governance is unpopular.

01:16:30.000 They could see the economic and public health emergency is kind of unpopular.

01:16:35.000 They could ride that wave into power, and then they could just do nothing, right?

01:16:38.000 I mean, that's kind of what they did in 2018 with health care, right?

01:16:42.000 They didn't have a health care strategy for the Affordable Care Act.

01:16:44.000 They were the dog running after the car.

01:16:46.000 They were saying repeal Obamacare, repeal Obamacare.

01:16:48.000 Said that for basically eight years.

01:16:50.000 Once they got in a position to do something about healthcare, they didn't have any ideas.

01:16:54.000 They basically said it's too complicated and they couldn't agree on anything, right?

01:16:58.000 The question is, are they actually going to have a governing agenda or we're going to end up right back in the same place with parties trading places and not actually being able to resolve some of these things and move forward?

01:17:09.000 Yeah, I have absolutely no hope in the Republicans. 0.95

01:17:11.000 To me, they're going to be absolutely lame ducks.

01:17:13.000 They're going to be sitting on their hands and they're going to allow a lot of these egregious behaviors to happen just like they did from the very beginning of this.

01:17:20.000 So, to expect them to do something different is absolutely naive.

01:17:24.000 Big tech monopoly lobbying has a hold of a lot of the big conservative base.

01:17:30.000 They're absolutely futile to actually challenge the establishment and the few ones that do, They're the ones that get hit.

01:17:37.000 They're the ones that get slandered.

01:17:38.000 They're the ones that get booted from their committees.

01:17:41.000 Exactly.

01:17:42.000 Meanwhile, the progressives just run amok in Congress.

01:17:44.000 So, you know, what's happening right now is also absolutely crazy when we look at the raw numbers, especially with people on Twitter making the case that, you know, there's huge numbers of cases in Florida going up and only concentrating on that and ignoring the fact that there's a lot more cases in New York.

01:18:01.000 And New York, of course, represents the state that did the most.

01:18:04.000 What's the correct answer here?

01:18:06.000 It's a very complicated one.

01:18:08.000 It's not an easy one, but I would end by saying you shouldn't have all of your faith, all of your cookies in that Republican basket, because you're going to be let down.

01:18:16.000 Or just vote in the primaries and make sure you get rid of the establishment.

01:18:19.000 Well, here's the new narrative.

01:18:21.000 This is what we get.

01:18:22.000 We got this from the Guardian.

01:18:23.000 could be under right-wing dictator by 2030.

01:18:23.000 U.S.

01:18:27.000 Canadian professor warns.

01:18:30.000 Canadian political scientist warns an op-ed of Trumpist threat to American democracy and possible effect on northern neighbor.

01:18:38.000 I love how they're like, right-wing dictatorship is coming and they show a picture of Trump.

01:18:41.000 I gotta be honest.

01:18:42.000 And I'm not trying to be mean.

01:18:44.000 I'm not entirely convinced Donald Trump will even be alive in 2030.

01:18:47.000 Eight years from now, he'll be in his late 80s, mid to late 80s.

01:18:51.000 Okay.

01:18:52.000 I mean, that's well above average life expectancy for the average American adult male.

01:18:58.000 But maybe, I gotta be honest, Trump is pretty spry.

01:19:00.000 So he could be, but under a right-wing dictator.

01:19:03.000 See, I'll tell you what they're doing.

01:19:05.000 They're just trying to generate fear, to scare the left, to get them to rally around something.

01:19:10.000 But I tell you, a mannequin Will not be Trump.

01:19:14.000 Donald Trump is that big imposing figure the left cowered and feared.

01:19:17.000 And now they're like, but look at this invisible specter of right-wing Trumpism.

01:19:21.000 And it's like, yo, I don't know what that is.

01:19:23.000 I don't see anything there.

01:19:24.000 It's hollow. 1.00

01:19:24.000 Your argument is trash. 1.00

01:19:26.000 I mean, they'll have to, they'll have to portray whoever comes next as worse than Trump, right? 0.99

01:19:30.000 Because it's like, it's like you have a television series and they're like, oh, the next season is nowhere near as exciting.

01:19:35.000 You know, it's going to be boring, actually.

01:19:37.000 Like no one's going to watch it, right?

01:19:38.000 They're using the same principles as like as like entertainment or infotainment.

01:19:44.000 Which, you know, I think it's not even a choice between whether they really believe this or they don't.

01:19:52.000 I think a really good, like, propagandist believes what they're saying, right?

01:19:55.000 Like, I think a lot of people on the left have convinced themselves that democracy is, like, five seconds away from, you know, disappearing.

01:20:04.000 That allows them to project that same image to the rest of the planet, I think.

01:20:09.000 Okay, you correct.

01:20:10.000 They're going to have to say that whoever comes next is worse than Trump.

01:20:13.000 The problem is, take a look at this article from The Independent.

01:20:16.000 Trump's denial of climate change represents worse threat to humanity than Hitler, says activist Noam Chomsky.

01:20:22.000 Look at this dude, man.

01:20:24.000 Yikes.

01:20:25.000 Bro.

01:20:26.000 Noam Chomsky has that famous video where it's like in the 70s and he's defending free speech, even for those who disagree with.

01:20:32.000 Now he's become this like disheveled old crackpot.

01:20:37.000 But here's my main point.

01:20:38.000 If they're now saying, in more ways than one, that Trump is worse than Hitler... Here's an article from Newsweek.

01:20:44.000 A woman tweeted Hitler was better than Trump and Twitter won't say whether she broke its rules. 1.00

01:20:49.000 If they actually believe that, then...

01:20:52.000 Then what do they say about the next guy?

01:20:54.000 Like, he's the Antichrist or something?

01:20:56.000 Did you guys watch this Netflix movie, Don't Look Up?

01:20:59.000 Okay.

01:20:59.000 Yes.

01:21:00.000 I liked it.

01:21:01.000 Well, okay, yeah, I thought it was a fun movie in terms of it being watchable, and actually someone I had worked with in the past, David Sirota, helped co-write it, so I'm not trying to be mean about it, but like, one of the things the movie really gets wrong is that, okay, so the plot of the movie, for those who haven't seen it, is that a comet is heading towards the Earth, it's gonna be there in six months, and the news media and politicians... Spoiler alerts!

01:21:21.000 Just in case.

01:21:22.000 Oh yeah, it's still a new movie.

01:21:23.000 All right, I'll do mild spoilers.

01:21:25.000 I won't give anything too much away.

01:21:26.000 But basically, the arc of the plot is that the media and politicians don't take it seriously.

01:21:31.000 Like, they don't really care that a comet's gonna head towards the earth and destroy everybody.

01:21:34.000 And you know, I watched that and I just thought to myself, it doesn't have any bearing on reality.

01:21:39.000 Because like, if there was a comet heading towards the earth, I think CNN would have like a comet hologram You know, I think they would have 25... They would have like 25 intersectional takes on the comet every day, like what the comet is gonna do to women and minorities.

01:21:54.000 Like the media in this country is driven by fear.

01:21:58.000 It's not always fear of stuff you really should be all that scared of, I would say, but like they understand that fear sells, that fear gets clicks, and there's absolutely no way that they will pass up the challenge of an actual world-ending disaster.

01:22:10.000 By the way, climate change is bad in many ways, but it's not actually a world-ending

01:22:13.000 disaster.

01:22:14.000 The planet will still exist, the ecosystem will still exist, humans will still exist.

01:22:17.000 It'll change.

01:22:18.000 A comet would end life on Earth.

01:22:20.000 That's a really good point.

01:22:21.000 I can imagine Don Lemon doing Comet Watch, and they have the sidebar, and it's like miles,

01:22:26.000 time till it hits the Earth, and miles traveled.

01:22:29.000 And then there'll be a special presentation where they look at the sky, and they have

01:22:33.000 a reporter on the ground, we're here in New York, at the top of the Empire State Building.

01:22:36.000 You can look up, you can start to see it forming.

01:22:39.000 They would never stop.

01:22:40.000 They'd have panels discussing.

01:22:42.000 No, no.

01:22:42.000 They would have reenactments.

01:22:44.000 They would have animated reenactments of people dying and getting obliterated.

01:22:49.000 They would have a death counter.

01:22:50.000 How many people are going to die?

01:22:51.000 How many people are going to suffer?

01:22:52.000 Every segment would be yelling at the president.

01:22:55.000 Mr. President, how dare you not blow up that comet?

01:22:58.000 You know, you have to do this immediately.

01:23:00.000 Like it would be five alarm car fire.

01:23:02.000 We know that because that's what happened with COVID-19, right?

01:23:05.000 Which was far less severe than a comet striking the Earth.

01:23:07.000 So I just, you know, it's a fun movie.

01:23:09.000 I think it was an enjoyable watch, but I do think that the writers kind of just missed it.

01:23:12.000 Like that's, that's not the way the media operates.

01:23:14.000 There's a meme I saw where it's the Wojak face all happy, and it's got the full political compass over the face, looking at the movie saying, wow, it's proving me right and making fun of my political rivals. 0.81

01:23:26.000 Like, the movie made fun of literally everyone.

01:23:29.000 That's why I thought it was alright, but it was obvious what the narrative was.

01:23:32.000 The message was that climate change is serious, the scientists are warning us, and no one

01:23:36.000 takes it seriously.

01:23:37.000 But I think you're right.

01:23:38.000 I think the fear is too juicy for them to give up.

01:23:43.000 But there's also a lot of people desensitized, as you were just talking about a few moments

01:23:47.000 ago.

01:23:49.000 I absolutely believe that's the case, especially with COVID, especially with just how horribly the government messed up and how you would argue that every step of the way they made the situation that much worse.

01:24:00.000 There's a lot of evidence to suggest that, but at a certain point, I think enough people say, hey, I'm just sick of this.

01:24:06.000 This is not going to affect me.

01:24:08.000 There's only so many times you could lunge out and scream boo at somebody before they're like, Okay, this doesn't really work at all and I think this is why there is a victory that we're having here that we need to note and that is that news corporate news media viewership by and large has been going down by the years and it has continued to go down and I think that's a huge victory.

01:24:30.000 And I think people are just getting so desensitized, so out of touch with it, or they're just going on Zoloft and other SSRIs.

01:24:37.000 But there's also a small section of that.

01:24:39.000 But the majority of people are saying, this is not scary anymore.

01:24:42.000 It's like a Halloween ride that just, you know, loses its factor after going on it so many times.

01:24:48.000 Yeah, it's a form of bias that probably all the news has, which is called negativity bias, right?

01:24:53.000 They're always trying to tell you how the world's going to hell in a handbasket, right?

01:24:56.000 At a certain point, why does someone want to sit there and watch that every single day?

01:25:00.000 Even in the most trivial circumstances, you know, finding a woman in Central Park who's rude to somebody or something and putting the video on national news.

01:25:06.000 At a certain point, someone's going to be like, why am I watching this over and over?

01:25:10.000 Why am I getting this distorted view of the world?

01:25:12.000 Why are they trying to make me miserable?

01:25:14.000 I don't think that's it, because I think you can levy some of that criticism towards us as well.

01:25:19.000 You know, we see things in the news and we highlight, like, wow, we think this is pretty bad and something needs to be addressed.

01:25:26.000 To be fair, though, you know, if you even look at some of the stories we did over, like, to the start of the show, like Joe Rogan leading the charge to go against censorship is fairly neutral.

01:25:34.000 Censorship is bad, but people fighting back is good.

01:25:37.000 So we try not to be always very negative, but I think we're very negative.

01:25:40.000 However, I think cable TV is driven specifically by editorial demand for negativity, which is, it's different from here.

01:25:47.000 Like we have actual, we're just, we're people with opinions.

01:25:50.000 Before we start the show, we sit down, I say like, Hey Luke, what have you seen in the news?

01:25:53.000 What do you think's important?

01:25:55.000 And Luke's got a bunch of stories like riots are happening here or this happens.

01:25:58.000 And then we'll try and figure out what we think is like the most important thing that we should talk about.

01:26:02.000 What matters most to people in terms of what's happening.

01:26:05.000 For me, I thought the Joe Rogan thing was big because such a big celebrity to push back against censorship.

01:26:09.000 And I don't see that as a negative for the most part, kind of just is.

01:26:12.000 But CNN, we learned this thanks to real journalists like Project Veritas.

01:26:17.000 When you get that CNN producer saying that COVID deaths were gangbusters for ratings, they put that big old thing, death counter on the TV.

01:26:25.000 Think about how despicable that is.

01:26:28.000 And celebrating and being happy about it that they were able to get ratings because of that fear.

01:26:32.000 That's another layer of it that really needs to be understood by people who consume media.

01:26:37.000 They should understand what they're getting and who they're getting it from.

01:26:39.000 And when they're getting the news from CNN, you don't want to know who you're getting it from.

01:26:43.000 When you find out, holy cow!

01:26:45.000 I mean, I think news media always has to address problems.

01:26:47.000 I made a couple of documentaries with Fox over the past year in different locations.

01:26:53.000 But I think in terms of addressing the problems, you should also be addressing solutions.

01:26:56.000 You should also be constructive.

01:26:58.000 You should be trying to figure out how do we solve this?

01:27:01.000 What are people doing about it?

01:27:02.000 And I think the difference between people sitting around talking about problems like

01:27:06.000 we are and what CNN does is like CNN doesn't care if there ever is a solution to the problem.

01:27:10.000 CNN is just there to tell you that everything's horrible and you need to be addicted to us to keep telling you how horrible things are, right?

01:27:16.000 They're incentivized to make it more horrible because when they do, they get more viewership because of that.

01:27:22.000 And I think this is in response to a lot of their coverage, which is, in my opinion, leading to some real life harm.

01:27:29.000 I gotta tell you, man, you're constantly just watching what's going on.

01:27:33.000 You know, people have asked me like, man, it must get to you sometimes.

01:27:36.000 And I'm like, you know, it's not the news.

01:27:40.000 It's more like the personal aspect.

01:27:42.000 When I'm reading stories about news, policy, worldly affairs, that's not a big deal.

01:27:47.000 But when I read about Incessant behaviors, that's really... It's blackpilling.

01:27:56.000 When you see, like, hey, we're experiencing the same problem again because people just do the same thing over and over again, it kind of feels like a human macro-level problem that's intrinsic to humans.

01:28:06.000 Like, why do people in New York keep voting for Ocasio-Cortez?

01:28:09.000 Well, they don't read the news.

01:28:10.000 They don't watch the news.

01:28:11.000 They get their information from word of mouth, they don't pay attention, so they're trapped in this cycle.

01:28:16.000 And I don't see that as ever changing.

01:28:17.000 I really don't.

01:28:17.000 Until maybe the pot boils over and knocks off the stove or something.

01:28:21.000 For the time being, AOC can say like, oh, we gotta have mask mandates.

01:28:25.000 You know, Texas is killing people.

01:28:26.000 And then go party in Miami because she knows her constituents won't read the news. 0.97

01:28:30.000 And she gets away with it.

01:28:32.000 So that's the kind of thing where I'm just like, man, all of this could stop!

01:28:36.000 And we could make a Minecraft channel and just talk about, you know, the... I don't even know anything about Minecraft.

01:28:41.000 Creepers.

01:28:42.000 Yeah.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, the creepers!

01:28:42.000 Creepers!

01:28:43.000 Oh, they're getting to us!

01:28:44.000 You know, it's oh, oh, you know... But instead, it's just like the same thing every day.

01:28:48.000 We've been talking about censorship for a decade.

01:28:51.000 And it's been getting worse.

01:28:52.000 We've been talking about, you know, many of these cultural issues, the banning of comedy for five, six, seven years, and it just keeps getting worse.

01:29:00.000 And at a certain point it's like, are people going to keep behaving the exact same way?

01:29:03.000 Is anything going to change?

01:29:04.000 Or are we stuck in a loop?

01:29:05.000 But maybe it's not a loop.

01:29:07.000 Maybe it's a downward spiral that eventually just reaches the point where we're spinning so fast.

01:29:11.000 I still think the fact that we're still here is a victory.

01:29:15.000 The fact that against all odds, the algorithm changes, the tweaks, the demonetizations,

01:29:20.000 the just deliberate efforts to stop any kind of independent speech.

01:29:25.000 The fact that there's still some resilient people out there building infrastructure, building their own bases, is a victory in itself.

01:29:33.000 And we're very blessed to still be here and still be able to still keep up the fight in some kind of way.

01:29:38.000 Sorry, I cut you off there.

01:29:40.000 No, I was just saying that, like, let's remember also, like, we're talking about this COVID emergency state, like, The world came together.

01:29:47.000 Governments came together.

01:29:48.000 Business came together.

01:29:49.000 Pharmaceuticals came together.

01:29:51.000 We all, like, dramatically altered our lifestyles in ways that we've never done before.

01:29:55.000 People were, you know, doing these masks.

01:29:56.000 People were social distancing.

01:29:57.000 There was lockdowns.

01:29:58.000 All this happened.

01:29:59.000 And, like you said, we're still here, right?

01:30:01.000 They developed vaccines.

01:30:03.000 Most people have gotten through this.

01:30:05.000 Thankfully, this disease is actually not very harmful for children at all.

01:30:08.000 People are slowly waking up to that.

01:30:10.000 We survived this much better than we have past pandemics, right?

01:30:13.000 It's nothing like Spanish flu, so on and so forth.

01:30:16.000 And I think that that's, like, a positive thing, right? 0.99

01:30:19.000 Like, we can't get too down on ourselves and say that, oh, America reacted to this so poorly, you know, we're so stupid, you know, take the don't-look-up view of the United States.

01:30:28.000 We can also look at the fact that we, actually, the average American did tons of stuff in response to this that we've never done before. 0.90

01:30:34.000 A lot of us did kind of rise to some kind of calling, even if some of these policies were misguided.

01:30:40.000 I'm actually fairly optimistic on where we're going in the future.

01:30:46.000 I just feel like after seven or eight years of the same things happening over and over again, what I mean to say is the thing that's annoying and frustrating doing this job is that you hear the same stories on repeat, you know?

01:30:58.000 Sometimes they're slightly different.

01:30:59.000 Sometimes they're just regurgitated.

01:31:01.000 And you just kind of wish people would learn and change their behaviors.

01:31:04.000 But I think the issue is that humans are... Human civilization is emergent.

01:31:09.000 It's constantly in flux with younger people aging and dying, and then younger people coming in taking over.

01:31:15.000 So you end up with people like Vosch, for instance, who comes on this show and said he didn't know anything about the Obama administration because he was just a teenager.

01:31:26.000 But now he's a major force in political commentary on the internet, not the biggest channel in the world, but he's fairly large, he gets a lot of views, and he's having a conversation about politics when he wasn't around for what Obama had done, and Biden as well.

01:31:38.000 So he's lacking that experience.

01:31:40.000 That makes it impossible for humanity to effectively learn, in a sense.

01:31:44.000 And not completely, just in some areas.

01:31:47.000 However, I do think that people are going to get to a point where they just slam the table and say, I'm mad as hell, I'm not gonna take it anymore.

01:31:54.000 And that's why I think Democrats are resigning and retiring or planning to retire in huge numbers.

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01:32:57.000 First superchat, I can't read your name because YouTube blocks it.

01:33:00.000 It says, it's the establishment versus the rest of us.

01:33:04.000 Yup, the problem is, when you have young people who aren't familiar with what the establishment is doing or has done, they end up supporting it, and then you're up against young progressives who are just brainwashed into thinking populists are the bad guys, even though they're somewhat populists?

01:33:17.000 I don't know.

01:33:18.000 Alright.

01:33:19.000 Seth says, why did Nunes resign?

01:33:22.000 Do you guys know why Nunes resigned?

01:33:25.000 Really?

01:33:25.000 He resigned because he's going to be with Trump social.

01:33:28.000 Yeah.

01:33:29.000 Devin Nunes is going to be running Donald Trump's social media, the Trump social platform.

01:33:34.000 And my understanding is he believes that he will be more effective in helping get the word out and helping grow the Trump movement or just the populist right by working with social media and, you know, getting past all the censorship.

01:33:47.000 Joe Master says, good for Joe Rogan.

01:33:49.000 I got suspended from Twitter for being mean to Keith Olbermann lol.

01:33:54.000 You know what's funny about that?

01:33:55.000 Is that Keith Olbermann is one of the meanest people just ever. 0.97

01:33:59.000 He's just nasty. 0.99

01:34:00.000 Terrible. 0.98

01:34:01.000 Like you got banned?

01:34:02.000 How is he not banned?

01:34:04.000 Right.

01:34:04.000 I don't know if you guys have read, you've interacted with him Luke?

01:34:08.000 Thankfully not.

01:34:09.000 It would be crazy if I did, especially with how flippant and emotional he gets, and illogical.

01:34:17.000 But there's a lot of people who spread a lot of medical misinformation.

01:34:21.000 The CEO of Pfizer said a lot of things that were absolutely not true on Twitter, and he has yet to be held responsible for it.

01:34:27.000 Rachel Maddow?

01:34:28.000 Rachel Maddow, Dr. Fauci, so many of the individuals lied through their teeth.

01:34:33.000 They need to be held accountable for it.

01:34:34.000 They haven't.

01:34:35.000 Rachel Maddow has spread so much dis and misinformation.

01:34:35.000 It's crazy.

01:34:42.000 It is laughable.

01:34:43.000 If misinformation was a quarter, she would be able to go to the arcade.

01:34:48.000 She'd be able to play for a very long time.

01:34:49.000 That's my best analogy I could come up with.

01:34:51.000 It's just, it's insane.

01:34:53.000 There's like a video that I tweeted about, and it's funny, you know what I love? 0.99

01:34:56.000 I love on Twitter, I just post like, it's all ish posts, it's all like just trash, garbage posts.

01:35:02.000 And the funny thing is when the media takes the bait and runs stories on them, takes it seriously, I tweeted, Rachel Maddow should be banned for this. 1.00

01:35:09.000 I got my opinions from Twitch.

01:35:11.000 Like I was making a joke about left-wing streamers supporting massive private corporations controlling the flow of speech.

01:35:16.000 And then all of a sudden I have people like leftists tweeting like, Jim supports censorship!

01:35:16.000 Right.

01:35:21.000 Well, if you're not smart enough to see through, I get it.

01:35:23.000 Clever.

01:35:24.000 All right, all right, all right.

01:35:25.000 Everybody, congratulations.

01:35:27.000 You were correct.

01:35:29.000 We have Woot, due for you.

01:35:31.000 Langoliers.

01:35:32.000 Greg, the Langoliers.

01:35:33.000 Rocko Rocko the band.

01:35:34.000 Langoliers.

01:35:35.000 Rock Rocko.

01:35:36.000 St.

01:35:36.000 Miles, Langoliers.

01:35:37.000 Kiwi, Langoliers.

01:35:38.000 That's right.

01:35:39.000 The reference I made earlier in the show as to why Ian is not here was a reference to Stephen King's The Langoliers.

01:35:44.000 I couldn't figure that out.

01:35:45.000 I was like, why are people saying that?

01:35:46.000 Did you know that, Luke?

01:35:47.000 I thought you were talking about Lost.

01:35:49.000 Yeah, see, that's why I was saying, like, I don't think you knew what you were talking about.

01:35:53.000 The Langoliers, they're sleeping in a plane, they wake up, and everyone's gone, and like their clothes are all there.

01:35:59.000 The plane went through a rip in the time-space continuum, and they're basically, time moves forward, And the past is eaten by Langoliers, and they get, like, whatever the thing that moves time forward, they go through, and so they're trapped in a past where everything's frozen.

01:36:15.000 Like, nothing moves, everything's stale.

01:36:17.000 And then they see the Langoliers start destroying everything, so they're like, quick, get in the plane!

01:36:21.000 And they fly the plane, and then the dude turns the pressure down so everyone passes out again, and then the plane, they wake up, and they're back in reality or whatever.

01:36:29.000 Yeah, I like Stephen King, man.

01:36:31.000 He's kind of a creepy dude, but he's got, you know, he's got some good stories, you know.

01:36:34.000 Good author.

01:36:36.000 Yep, Patriot Paladin says, Stephen King's Langoliers.

01:36:40.000 Neokashi says, I see you've seen the Langoliers.

01:36:43.000 Yeah, the movie they did was from a very long time ago.

01:36:47.000 I don't know if you guys ever saw it, it was like the 90s.

01:36:50.000 Sionoise says, doing my part, I'm building decentralized social media.

01:36:55.000 Defluencer on GitHub, live streaming videos, comments, blog, and more.

01:36:59.000 Very cool.

01:37:00.000 Yeah, that's one of the nonprofits that we're working on for this year is the ON Foundation.

01:37:04.000 Ian and many others are working really hard.

01:37:07.000 And that is to create decentralized social media so that you will own your own website, social media system.

01:37:14.000 No one can ban you but the individual pieces of the infrastructure.

01:37:18.000 And then, you know, you'll be able to network with everybody without getting banned.

01:37:25.000 Are you just yawning, Luke?

01:37:26.000 Yeah, I'm yawning.

01:37:29.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:37:30.000 says, Tim, so you're telling us that last year was an off year.

01:37:34.000 That means this year is an on year.

01:37:35.000 All I can say is hide your kids, hide your wife. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Yeah, everyone's gonna get banned, man.

01:37:40.000 It'll be fun.

01:37:41.000 All right, a million and one comments about the Langoliers, Langoliers, Langoliers.

01:37:45.000 Roberto Lara says, Tim, don't forget the Large Hadron Collider is getting powered up this year with twice the power.

01:37:52.000 What?

01:37:52.000 There's already political memes, good and cringed in culture groups that I'm in.

01:37:57.000 Also, Florida's governor race is this year too.

01:37:59.000 Really?

01:38:00.000 I didn't know that.

01:38:01.000 Florida's governor race this year?

01:38:02.000 I looked that up.

01:38:03.000 So when I saw that video, the photos of AOC at that event with no mask on, people were cheering for her and like dancing.

01:38:10.000 And I'm like, who are these Florida Democrats that like AOC, who supports mask mandates and vaccine mandates, but are in a state where they don't have that, won't abide by those rules, which they could choose to do if they want to.

01:38:24.000 I don't understand.

01:38:25.000 Tell me what Doesn't make sense.

01:38:28.000 Nobody knows.

01:38:29.000 It's a glitch in the matrix.

01:38:30.000 A glitch in the matrix.

01:38:32.000 People who like want that to be happening, man.

01:38:36.000 It's November.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, it is this year.

01:38:38.000 All right.

01:38:40.000 Pioneer Smokehouses says, I was thinking a lot about what could trigger civil war, and I think moving voting control to the federal government could be bigger than pro-life issue.

01:38:50.000 Is that, um, was it HR1?

01:38:53.000 Oh, I'm not sure.

01:38:55.000 Yeah, I think they're probably referring to voting, the voting bill.

01:38:59.000 Yeah.

01:39:00.000 Do you guys know anything about that?

01:39:00.000 Do you know anything?

01:39:02.000 No, no.

01:39:02.000 Luke's just very quiet.

01:39:04.000 Well, they're trying to figure out a way to pass it because they don't, they can't get their filibuster on it.

01:39:04.000 Yeah.

01:39:09.000 So.

01:39:10.000 Oh, that's right.

01:39:11.000 They were talking about the filibuster.

01:39:12.000 Yeah.

01:39:13.000 Nombot says, did you really just reference Langolier's OMFG?

01:39:16.000 I knew I loved you guys.

01:39:17.000 There you go.

01:39:19.000 Hunter's crack pipe says just say Hunter's crack pipe is hard to put down.

01:39:23.000 You know, there was an interesting point brought up about the picture of Hunter Biden with sleeping with a crack pipe in his mouth.

01:39:30.000 That someone who was smoking crack would never fall asleep while doing crack.

01:39:34.000 I think, I think my friend Justin told me this.

01:39:36.000 It's an upper like people who smoke or they're, they're wired.

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:38.000 They're crazy. 0.97

01:39:39.000 Like weed. 0.98

01:39:40.000 So they think that the photo may have been like someone screwing with them.

01:39:43.000 Maybe it wasn't crack.

01:39:45.000 Maybe it was something else.

01:39:46.000 Maybe like a downer that he was also smoking.

01:39:48.000 What could he have been smoking?

01:39:48.000 I don't know.

01:39:50.000 I don't know.

01:39:50.000 It was a crack pipe, dude.

01:39:53.000 Luke, are you familiar with that?

01:39:54.000 You're making a reference, just stop right there!

01:39:56.000 I'm not an expert in crackheads, to be honest with you.

01:40:01.000 I try to keep my dealings as far away from them as possible.

01:40:05.000 All right.

01:40:05.000 Michael Holder says, bring Nerdrotic back or one of the Geeks and Gamers crew to school Luke on Game of Thrones.

01:40:11.000 Love you, Luke, but not a Disney ending is a stelter level bad take.

01:40:16.000 Hey, that's your opinion.

01:40:17.000 Subjective.

01:40:18.000 Whatever, dude.

01:40:19.000 That's fine.

01:40:20.000 I'm entitled to have my perspective and you're entitled to have yours.

01:40:26.000 Okay.

01:40:27.000 Cat's Claws.

01:40:28.000 We're just gonna get, we're just gonna, I'm just gonna have to read it.

01:40:31.000 He says, I don't like Ian.

01:40:32.000 He's the main reason why I haven't subscribed to TimCast.com.

01:40:36.000 Here's $10 for a great week without Ian.

01:40:39.000 That was really nice.

01:40:40.000 Love having Luke around though.

01:40:40.000 Thanks.

01:40:43.000 I like Ian.

01:40:44.000 I think Ian's great.

01:40:45.000 I think often Ian asks us moral questions that kind of break the echo chamber, and that's kind of the issue.

01:40:52.000 I mean, it's difficult because obviously we don't want a bad show.

01:40:55.000 If people are, like, you know, unimpressed by Ian's either lack of conversation or bad questions, then I would agree, like, it's an issue.

01:41:05.000 But there were really good, there's been really great conversations that Ian, he's got views that many of us don't have, and it's good to have a different voice.

01:41:12.000 I mean, Ian is for the death penalty, and he's like some hippie guy, and it's... He has interesting views.

01:41:18.000 Yeah, but he's also asked us stuff that we don't normally think about, which I think is a good thing.

01:41:22.000 He asked us, you know, we oppose the mandates, but would we oppose mandates for, like, if there was an Ebola going around?

01:41:27.000 And I'm like, that's a good question, because, like, if you really think about it, what is it called, hemorrhagic fever?

01:41:27.000 Yeah.

01:41:32.000 Hemorrhagic fever, yeah.

01:41:33.000 Hemorrhagic fever, where you, like, bleed internally from the fever.

01:41:37.000 Like, if people were just walking around, their eyes started bleeding and they vomited blood and collapsed, I might be a little more like, I'm not going outside ever again!

01:41:44.000 Get out of my house! 1.00

01:41:45.000 You know?

01:41:46.000 Ian is... No, no, no, I'm asking you about hemorrhaging fever, Luke!

01:41:52.000 I'm not an expert in hemorrhaging fever, I'm just saying... Let me ask you the question.

01:41:55.000 If people were walking around and started vomiting blood and bleeding from their eyes, would you be like for or against mandates?

01:42:01.000 Did they see, what's it called, that CNN, what's his name?

01:42:07.000 Reliable Sources.

01:42:08.000 Yes.

01:42:09.000 Did they just see Brian Settler?

01:42:10.000 Settler?

01:42:12.000 Whatever his name is.

01:42:14.000 I'm against the government doing anything.

01:42:15.000 I don't give a damn what's going on.

01:42:18.000 They're going to make the situation worse. 0.51

01:42:19.000 They're going to figure out a way how eye bleeding is going to be monetized for them.

01:42:25.000 And they would create a policy against eye bleeding, but they would make people bleed more from the eyes. 0.85

01:42:29.000 Everyone's got to wear goggles.

01:42:31.000 You know, I think I'd still be against it though.

01:42:32.000 I think, you know, we thought, we talked about it.

01:42:35.000 I think I'd still be against it because it would self-regulate.

01:42:38.000 If people were genuinely witnessing this stuff, they would absolutely, everyone would self-isolate.

01:42:43.000 Yeah, you'd need no need, there'd be no need for this like intense policy or anything.

01:42:46.000 Soon as the government says, don't do this, there's going to be a bunch of people who are going to want to do something like people need to have personal responsibility, act on their own wills and understand that the government is never going to come in and save you. 0.99

01:42:56.000 This naive belief that the government's going to help you or watch out for you is absolutely idiotic. 0.98

01:43:01.000 It has almost never happened in recorded human history. 0.99

01:43:04.000 And the more you believe in the idea, the more of the fairytale you put into that, give that power, the more you let yourself down and put yourself in danger.

01:43:13.000 All right, Planet says, Bannon's show plays the video on the Out2 commercial all the time.

01:43:18.000 Yeah, I mentioned that.

01:43:20.000 Oh, the Guo one?

01:43:20.000 Yeah, it's a song.

01:43:21.000 I don't know who this guy is, other than there's been some stories about him, like, he's, I guess he's like, what, he funds right-wing groups or something, or like right-wing projects?

01:43:29.000 No idea.

01:43:30.000 Chinese billionaire opposes the CCP, is that what he's all about?

01:43:32.000 First I'm hearing about him.

01:43:34.000 Hook him up.

01:43:35.000 Settle Dench says, it's good to see that Ian survived an encounter with the Langoliers, and I'm excited to see him back on the show. 0.99

01:43:42.000 Well, you know, he's just not here.

01:43:44.000 I think he's actually in the building right now, but you know.

01:43:46.000 Not yet.

01:43:47.000 No, he's not.

01:43:47.000 No, no, he won't be here until after the show.

01:43:49.000 I've been telling people, like, don't fly right now, man.

01:43:51.000 Yeah.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, dude.

01:43:52.000 Because I've got family that are flying and I was like, you're going to get stuck.

01:43:55.000 Yeah.

01:43:56.000 They're canceling all of these flights.

01:43:57.000 Yeah.

01:43:58.000 I think it's really obvious.

01:44:00.000 It's the holidays.

01:44:01.000 Yeah.

01:44:01.000 They tell everybody you've got to get a negative test if you want to do X, Y, or Z. Many people are like, I want to make sure I get tested before I see grandma.

01:44:08.000 So they all do.

01:44:09.000 Then all of a sudden you get mass reporting of COVID surging through the roof across the board.

01:44:13.000 And then all of a sudden all the politicians are like, oh, Oh geez!

01:44:16.000 Oh no!

01:44:16.000 Lock everything down!

01:44:18.000 And then these people who are working in the airlines, they're all like, oh wow, I'm sick.

01:44:22.000 I guess I can't come into work.

01:44:23.000 So everything's just being shut down.

01:44:24.000 So one of the things that someone was pointing out, I forget where I heard this, but I guess if you say that you have a positive COVID test, you don't have to come into work.

01:44:31.000 They can't do anything about it.

01:44:32.000 You can just kind of call off consequence-free.

01:44:34.000 And I was like, that's kind of dangerous to incentivize that kind of nonsense.

01:44:38.000 Really going to skew your numbers.

01:44:41.000 All right.

01:44:42.000 Um, well, I think I asked for this, but we got a ton of super chats about the Langoliers.

01:44:47.000 Maybe I should just do that in the beginning of every show, like make a movie reference because then people super chat and it's good for the show.

01:44:54.000 I love it.

01:44:55.000 All right.

01:44:56.000 I gotta watch this now.

01:44:57.000 Mark Dello Russo says, what are your opinions on RFK Jr.' 's controversial new book?

01:45:03.000 I appreciate his work, but skeptical because the truth is often elusive.

01:45:07.000 What do you think, Luke?

01:45:09.000 Absolutely great take.

01:45:10.000 You should always be skeptical of everyone.

01:45:11.000 And just because someone's on your side or someone has the same beliefs as you doesn't mean that they're always going to be correct and honest and upfront.

01:45:19.000 I personally like RFK Jr.

01:45:22.000 I think he does incredible work.

01:45:23.000 I think he was also instrumental in bringing up a lot of the roundup important court legal cases that are happening right now.

01:45:31.000 So for me, he's done a lot of good work and I always try to judge a person by the fruits of their labors and there's a lot of fruit, a lot of positivity and a lot of good things that were brought on by this man.

01:45:44.000 So he has a lot of credibility.

01:45:47.000 About the assertions made about the real Anthony Fauci, I think there's a reason why it's one of the number one books on Amazon.

01:45:53.000 I think it's very thought-provoking and it's providing people a perspective of Dr. Fauci that is the complete opposite of what the media has portrayed him as.

01:46:01.000 But if you want to be completely intellectually honest, you look at both perspectives, you make up your own decision after hearing them out, and then look at what evidence suggests to be the truth.

01:46:10.000 And that should be the side that you should be on no matter what.

01:46:13.000 Alright, McChilla says, winning the fight against mandates is our last chance at a non-violent resolution to get our freedoms back.

01:46:19.000 We've got to start winning local battles.

01:46:21.000 I went in to pick up a to-go order and was turned away because I refused to wear a mask.

01:46:26.000 That's crazy.

01:46:27.000 You know, I was thinking, we've got some plans for culture jamming.

01:46:31.000 Yes.

01:46:31.000 I don't want to say too much about what a lot of our ideas are, but I'm ready to just go full on.

01:46:36.000 I don't even want to say civil disobedience, because I think we're going to work well

01:46:41.000 within the system. A good example would be buying a billboard.

01:46:43.000 Buying a billboard not to make a public statement where it's like, hey, we think

01:46:47.000 mandates are bad, but to call out individuals and politicians, to call out

01:46:54.000 out.

01:46:55.000 Let me just put it this way.

01:46:57.000 In unique ways, that would be very culture jamming.

01:46:59.000 I'll give you an example.

01:47:01.000 The Yes Men.

01:47:02.000 You guys know the Yes Men?

01:47:03.000 Yeah.

01:47:04.000 They did this very famous stunt where they cloned a Dow Chemical website and then I think it was the BBC emailed the fake website saying we want to get someone to come on and speak about the Bhopal disaster where there's like a major chemical spill in India.

01:47:19.000 I think it was in India.

01:47:20.000 And then the activist goes on TV pretending to be from this major chemical company and then says, we hereby take full responsibility for the disaster.

01:47:32.000 We will be liquidating union carbide to pay for all of the damages and everyone.

01:47:37.000 And it was like this huge moment.

01:47:38.000 And then I was like, no, no, we do not accept.

01:47:40.000 And it was like that serious culture jam.

01:47:42.000 Well, they said they will, they would be compensating the victims in this particular case, which made the stock go down dramatically and have the company issue a public, uh, announcement saying, no, no, no, no, no.

01:47:55.000 The victims here are not going to be compensated, which put them in a very difficult space.

01:48:01.000 And, uh, I remember that, that moment.

01:48:03.000 It was, it was very sentimental.

01:48:05.000 It was very, very big and showed you what impact you can make.

01:48:08.000 So I'm thinking about that kind of stuff, you know?

01:48:11.000 And I had some ideas, like, what would happen if you went to a business that was, like, enforcing mandates and just hired someone to hold a sign in front of the business that said, sorry, we're closed?

01:48:22.000 Like, make no reference at all to the business.

01:48:24.000 Make no reference at all to any mandates or any political statements.

01:48:27.000 You just hire a guy to be like, stand right here, hold up a sign saying, sorry, we're closed.

01:48:30.000 That's it.

01:48:31.000 Nothing else.

01:48:32.000 Like, is that... they would all of a sudden be like, hey, how come no one's coming to our establishment anymore?

01:48:37.000 So there's things like that.

01:48:38.000 Now, I want to avoid actually going after the little guy in any way.

01:48:41.000 So that's why we're looking at, you know, billboards and silly pranks and things like this that are all, like, not even civil disobedience.

01:48:48.000 Just, you know, pranks is probably a better way to put it. 0.50

01:48:51.000 Like, you know, like, wear your mask.

01:48:53.000 Take this procedure because it worked so well the first time.

01:48:55.000 You know, something like that.

01:48:57.000 I think it would be pretty interesting.

01:48:58.000 We got some plans.

01:48:59.000 I don't want to reveal them.

01:49:00.000 But if I said them, people would probably start laughing and be like, I get it, I get it.

01:49:02.000 But if I give you an example.

01:49:04.000 So maybe this will be up on like Thursday or something on the vlog.

01:49:07.000 So go to the Castcastle vlog on YouTube.

01:49:10.000 All right, Chris from Michigan says, I'm waiting for the apology from Dave for degrading himself by posing with Patton Oswalt.

01:49:16.000 So disappointing.

01:49:19.000 He needs to do better.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, there's a compelling case to make there.

01:49:23.000 Yep.

01:49:24.000 I love this one.

01:49:25.000 Tyler says, did you notice there's no movie showings after 1-6, but only in blue states?

01:49:31.000 I saw it on Decoy Voice, but what are your thoughts?

01:49:33.000 More lockdowns.

01:49:35.000 All right.

01:49:36.000 I love this conspiracy theory.

01:49:37.000 What?

01:49:38.000 So I saw this online and they were like, anyone notice that after January 6th, Movie theaters are only showing one movie and it's called the 355, which is like, I don't know, some rom-com or something.

01:49:50.000 And then someone responded with, I think this means the feds are going to start, you know, locking down the country or there's going to be an interstate travel ban.

01:49:58.000 And I'm like, you got all that because movies haven't been announced yet?

01:50:01.000 I'll tell you what I think's happening.

01:50:03.000 I think it's a new year.

01:50:04.000 And I think many of these websites haven't been updated with show listings.

01:50:08.000 That's it.

01:50:09.000 Although I gotta admit it, I've never noticed this before, it could just be that people finally notice something that happens all the time.

01:50:16.000 Every year on the first of the year, theaters haven't sent in their updated lists, and that could be normal.

01:50:22.000 Finally someone noticed it and everyone thinks it's a conspiracy.

01:50:27.000 Or, sure, I guess the government's gonna be locking everything down, I suppose, but I really doubt it.

01:50:32.000 All right, Ricardo says, Greetings from Brazil.

01:50:36.000 This week it's going to be voted if children 5 to 11 need to be vaxxed in Brazil.

01:50:40.000 Also today, a three times Pfizer jabbed journalist had a sudden cardiac arrest live.

01:50:46.000 Duck, duck it. 0.99

01:50:47.000 Whoa, really?

01:50:48.000 Yeah, man.

01:50:49.000 Wow.

01:50:50.000 Well, I can't say much about that because you need to look at larger datasets to understand if that matters.

01:50:57.000 We've talked about the soccer players sort of, you know, passing out and collapsing.

01:51:01.000 Dr. Malone said something interesting on Jarwin's podcast, and we're going to get into this in the members-only segment because YouTube is ban-heavy, and that's kind of the problem.

01:51:08.000 But one thing I think is interesting is that people need to understand, when you see stories like this, it's possible COVID, long COVID, is having this effect.

01:51:17.000 Now, with that in mind, check out the members only segment because we're going to get into greater detail about what this means and how, you know, how it pertains to vaccines.

01:51:26.000 Unfortunately, let's be, I got to be real with you, if YouTube is absolutely insane as it pertains to censorship, but we do have some plans.

01:51:35.000 We've been thinking about how to push back With as crazy as YouTube is getting, especially in an election year.

01:51:43.000 And so one of the things we're planning on doing is a Sunday special, a special Sunday episode, I don't want to call it Sunday special, it's what Ben Shapiro calls it, but a special weekend episode.

01:51:51.000 And we're trying to figure out how we can do that within our current, you know, timeframe and work schedule.

01:51:55.000 So that way on iTunes, Spotify, and other podcast platforms, we will have like very serious, publicly available, free conversations that go beyond YouTube's stupid rules.

01:52:06.000 We do this on the website.

01:52:07.000 With our articles, but we also have the Members Only segment, which is, you know, you gotta pay for because we need to support the infrastructure.

01:52:12.000 I'll also just tell you, it is really expensive to host those videos.

01:52:16.000 It is really, really expensive.

01:52:17.000 If we could host it all and give it away for free, we would.

01:52:20.000 YouTube, when we do these shows, it's free for us.

01:52:23.000 We don't pay YouTube to host this content, but that means we also have YouTube's rules.

01:52:28.000 So the strategy then is, okay, we'll host our own videos, But it's really expensive, and so we need to basically be like, here's how much it costs to get access to this stuff.

01:52:37.000 One solution is to put up a special episode every weekend on other platforms, like it'll probably be on Rumble.

01:52:43.000 It'll probably be exclusive on Rumble, and then also on iTunes, Spotify.

01:52:46.000 So we're trying to figure it out.

01:52:47.000 We'll see if we can get to it.

01:52:49.000 I don't think I have, you know, all the solutions worked out just yet, but... 0.94

01:52:54.000 There's also a video going around alleging, showing citizens beating up a local mayor who mandated vaccine passports to eat and mandatory vaccinations for children and that video is going around allegedly showing that mayor getting his buttocks carefully hit.

01:53:15.000 There's a feud, I guess, between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Dan Crenshaw. 0.79

01:53:19.000 No, I did not.

01:53:19.000 Did you see this?

01:53:20.000 Raymond G. Stanley says MGT.

01:53:22.000 Is it MTG or Crenshaw?

01:53:25.000 I don't know, man.

01:53:27.000 Isn't Crenshaw like a liberal now?

01:53:32.000 That's what I've been seeing all over social media.

01:53:34.000 He supported red flag laws, didn't he? 1.00

01:53:36.000 He denied that, though, I guess.

01:53:37.000 A little bit of neocon.

01:53:38.000 Neocon?

01:53:39.000 I think so, yeah.

01:53:40.000 I don't know.

01:53:40.000 He had this video, he had this podcast clip where he was like, he said something about Americans who rag on endless war, being like ill-informed or something.

01:53:49.000 I think it was taken a little bit out of context, but I think it wasn't out of context enough for me to defend the guy.

01:53:53.000 I think, you know, he's been fairly war hawkish.

01:53:57.000 Yeah.

01:53:57.000 So people are calling him the new John McCain or whatever.

01:53:59.000 He still would be interesting to have on the show and to have a real discussion with.

01:54:03.000 Open invite, yeah.

01:54:04.000 Horace Dunn says, Tim, you absolutely nailed the Skeletor voice.

01:54:07.000 When did I do the Skeletor voice?

01:54:08.000 I don't know.

01:54:09.000 It wasn't on this episode.

01:54:10.000 Oh, previously.

01:54:10.000 I don't know.

01:54:11.000 Yeah.

01:54:12.000 Yeah.

01:54:12.000 I don't know.

01:54:13.000 What did Skeletor say?

01:54:13.000 Probably.

01:54:14.000 I don't... I wouldn't be able to do it unless I had, like, a way to do it.

01:54:17.000 I will say, though, my friends, I am, um...

01:54:20.000 My lifelong dream, it's been accomplished.

01:54:23.000 I can retire happily now.

01:54:25.000 I have an IMDB as a voice actor.

01:54:27.000 I am the voice of Dr. Anthony Fauci for Freedom Tunes.

01:54:31.000 And you know, I was thinking about it, I'm like, Seamus has got a big channel.

01:54:33.000 I mean, he gets half a million views.

01:54:35.000 You're famous.

01:54:36.000 Yeah, like, think about this.

01:54:37.000 How many people can say they're a voice actor on a cartoon show that regularly hits a half a million viewers?

01:54:42.000 Yeah.

01:54:43.000 Wow.

01:54:44.000 And here's the thing.

01:54:45.000 I'm not just the voice of Fauci on one episode.

01:54:47.000 I'm on, like, seven.

01:54:48.000 And then I'm also SJW's friend, and I voice myself.

01:54:52.000 Yeah.

01:54:52.000 So, uh, childhood dream of doing voice acting.

01:54:54.000 There it is.

01:54:54.000 I'm in a cartoon show.

01:54:56.000 Nailed it.

01:54:56.000 Seamus hit me up, like, a couple weeks ago, the new Fauci one, where he comes down the chimney.

01:55:01.000 And he was like, bro, I need a huge favor.

01:55:02.000 Like, can you read this script?

01:55:03.000 Oh my gosh.

01:55:04.000 And it was at, like, you know, noon or whatever.

01:55:06.000 And I was like, sure.

01:55:07.000 And it's the one where Fauci comes down and kidnaps people because there's too many people at a family gathering.

01:55:12.000 But without Seamus directing, it's really hard to do because I don't know exactly what his vision is.

01:55:16.000 So without him there, I just had to read it like 10 different ways over several minutes so we could try and figure out which inflection and which speed made sense.

01:55:27.000 I thought it was very, very hilarious though.

01:55:30.000 Anyway, yeah.

01:55:33.000 Maybe Seamus will finally realize that I can do a ton of voices.

01:55:38.000 And I don't just have to be Anthony Fauci.

01:55:40.000 Yeah, Seamus.

01:55:41.000 Although I have a lot of fun voicing Anthony Fauci.

01:55:43.000 How did I end up doing that role?

01:55:45.000 I don't know.

01:55:46.000 I think Seamus was here, and then I started doing the Fauci voice.

01:55:49.000 And then he was like, can you record something?

01:55:51.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:55:53.000 All right, here we go.

01:55:54.000 Brandon H says, Guo Wengui predicted Jack Ma's disappearance.

01:56:00.000 Check out August 2019 interview with Kyle Bass on Real Vision Finance.

01:56:04.000 Luke, We Are Change will love it.

01:56:06.000 What's the video again?

01:56:07.000 I'm gonna look it up.

01:56:08.000 August 2019 interview with Kyle Bass on Real Vision Finance.

01:56:12.000 Guo Wengui.

01:56:14.000 Wengui?

01:56:17.000 Wengui?

01:56:19.000 Alright.

01:56:21.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:56:22.000 once again, he says, Tim, guys, I'm worried if Trump wins, the left will go completely nuts.

01:56:26.000 If it's any other candidate, they'll go a little crazy.

01:56:28.000 What do y'all think?

01:56:29.000 I think if Trump runs and wins, they'll literally try to secede from the union.

01:56:33.000 Good.

01:56:34.000 We already saw that, that sentiment coming around, coming out.

01:56:36.000 I mentioned all the time, the Boston Globe.

01:56:38.000 I mean, and Antifa is going to be like, now's our chance.

01:56:43.000 That'll be fun.

01:56:45.000 All right.

01:56:45.000 No more input, I guess?

01:56:46.000 Everyone completely agrees with me.

01:56:48.000 100% agrees.

01:56:52.000 Waffle Sensei says, the best scene ever of Don't Look Up is when the Bill Gates character gets called a businessman.

01:56:58.000 I was losing it.

01:56:59.000 Oh, was that a reference to something?

01:57:02.000 I don't know if there was a reference but he was clearly one of the big tech giants and a lot of people say he was Bill Gates because of his voice and because of the sweaters and I absolutely agree.

01:57:10.000 I think it was Steve Jobs.

01:57:12.000 The turtleneck was very Steve Jobs.

01:57:13.000 That was the presentation too.

01:57:15.000 He was an amalgamation of those people.

01:57:19.000 Paul Wallace says, Ian is a good guy.

01:57:21.000 While he is a little off and he sometimes gets stuck on semantic arguments, he does bring a unique perspective.

01:57:27.000 Much love, you and crew.

01:57:29.000 When we did the special event, we had like, we have like a hundred and something people at the bar.

01:57:34.000 Oh yeah.

01:57:34.000 And then I mentioned, I was like, Ian often brings up, you know, gets involved in semantic arguments, which I hate.

01:57:41.000 And everyone started cheering and clapping.

01:57:43.000 Like, that's the problem.

01:57:44.000 It's not a real argument to be like, I think this word means that word.

01:57:47.000 And it's like, dude, Let's have a conversation about ideas and not the meanings of words.

01:57:52.000 Yikes.

01:57:53.000 William Ward says, Crack is not an upper.

01:57:56.000 Rolled with people that did it, they basically become drooling zombies.

01:57:59.000 Is that true?

01:58:00.000 I know people who did crack.

01:58:01.000 They became hopped up.

01:58:02.000 They were like, whoa!

01:58:03.000 So I have a source that says if you do enough of these stimulants, eventually you'll crash out, which makes sense because your body can only do so much.

01:58:11.000 Well, crackheads are like mystical figures.

01:58:13.000 They have, you know, godlike powers as well, and also the ability to, like, pass out everywhere, so.

01:58:20.000 Yeah.

01:58:22.000 Pretty impressive.

01:58:23.000 Okay, let's see what we got here.

01:58:28.000 I just had the YouTube jump happen.

01:58:30.000 No!

01:58:31.000 That's the worst.

01:58:31.000 That's a jump!

01:58:32.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 So when Super Chats load all at once, it just throws everything up.

01:58:38.000 But I appreciate all the Super Chats, guys.

01:58:41.000 Things you may not hate says, hi from Warsaw.

01:58:43.000 Love you, Luke, especially!

01:58:45.000 And a little heart emoji.

01:58:46.000 I sent you guys a pitch.

01:58:48.000 Forrest Trump stole the... Oh, okay.

01:58:51.000 Well, Luke, do you have a message in Polish to all of our Polish viewers?

01:58:55.000 Dziękuję bardzo.

01:58:56.000 Kurde, trzeba walczyć za wolność albo tam nam ukradną wszystko, co mogą.

01:59:02.000 Beautiful.

01:59:02.000 What is that?

01:59:02.000 What did you say?

01:59:03.000 I'm scared.

01:59:03.000 You don't wanna know.

01:59:04.000 Nah, that's a thought.

01:59:06.000 I can't tell.

01:59:06.000 You gotta learn Polish to find out.

01:59:08.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

01:59:09.000 Dzień dobry. 0.54

01:59:10.000 That's one way to get around the YouTube censorship.

01:59:12.000 Throwing out different languages, make them work for it, for the censorship.

01:59:16.000 Something interesting, when I was in Egypt, the Egyptians thought the British guys I was with were German.

01:59:24.000 It was really weird.

01:59:25.000 And so they told me, like, if you speak with a British accent, they'll just think you're speaking with a German accent, I guess, and then they won't think you're American.

01:59:32.000 But they can tell you're American based on the American accent.

01:59:35.000 It's really weird.

01:59:36.000 So they were like, just use an accent when you speak to us and they won't notice.

01:59:40.000 That was the craziest thing.

01:59:41.000 Yeah, it seemed to have worked, I guess.

01:59:42.000 That's really weird.

01:59:43.000 I just talked like this!

01:59:44.000 Crikey, mate! 1.00

01:59:45.000 Ay! 1.00

01:59:46.000 And then, like, no one had any idea.

01:59:48.000 They were like, I don't know where that guy's... No, I didn't really do that.

01:59:50.000 I was just like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

01:59:52.000 Cornelius Buttknuckle says, I've seen many a crackhead that have been up for many a day and they do get to a point that if they've been up for so long that their bodies start to force them to sleep.

02:00:02.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 I legit seen one guy fall asleep with the pipe in his mouth.

02:00:05.000 You know what?

02:00:05.000 That makes a lot of sense.

02:00:06.000 You pass out.

02:00:07.000 Maybe, maybe he was up for like three days and then finally just like, what happens to someone to make them go like that?

02:00:12.000 You know, like Hunter Biden.

02:00:14.000 He's like a wealthy family.

02:00:15.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:16.000 It's the wealth that does it.

02:00:18.000 Affluenza.

02:00:18.000 Yeah.

02:00:20.000 I got to say, you know, I know a lot of people in the suburbs of Chicago and they were like from well-off families, bored, and they just do drugs all the time.

02:00:26.000 Yeah.

02:00:27.000 I mean, the, uh, the rulers of like the UAE and Saudi Arabia, like they're always partying.

02:00:33.000 Like they're very, they're all like Hunter Biden, but like way more successful.

02:00:37.000 Like, you know, I think a lot of these people, they like chase those kinds of pleasures.

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:43.000 Decadence.

02:00:45.000 All right.

02:00:45.000 We got one more here.

02:00:46.000 We got one more.

02:00:47.000 This is, uh, TAC says, you fired Ian.

02:00:51.000 No Ian, IP Ian.

02:00:53.000 Oh no!

02:00:53.000 No, no, we didn't fire Ian.

02:00:55.000 Ian's flight was delayed.

02:00:57.000 He has returned.

02:00:58.000 Thankfully, safely.

02:01:00.000 And so, he's not in the building yet though?

02:01:02.000 Not quite yet.

02:01:03.000 About an hour.

02:01:04.000 About an hour?!

02:01:05.000 That's crazy.

02:01:05.000 He was supposed to be here super early in the morning.

02:01:07.000 Yeah, I know, I know.

02:01:08.000 Oh, okay, but he landed.

02:01:09.000 Right, yeah.

02:01:10.000 Wow, that's nuts.

02:01:11.000 I thought they said he was gonna get here at 9.

02:01:12.000 We should have Ian cam.

02:01:14.000 Yeah, we should have Ian cam.

02:01:16.000 Where in the world is Ian?

02:01:17.000 Ian tracker.

02:01:18.000 It'd be funny if, like, when Ian doesn't realize people are watching him, he's, like, a totally different person.

02:01:24.000 He's, like, a stodgy, staunch, conservative suit wearing with his hair tied back and no glasses.

02:01:28.000 Like a cardigan.

02:01:28.000 And he's got an accent.

02:01:29.000 Yeah.

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02:02:33.000 Zed, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:35.000 Yeah, I mean we're still, my friend Sean Misrobian and I, we're still writing at inquiremore.com on Substack and I'm contributing to a range of different outlets in addition to that.

02:02:44.000 I try to put this stuff out on my Twitter as well, just my first name and last name.

02:02:48.000 What is it?

02:02:49.000 It's Z-A-I-D-J-I-L-A-N-I, that's my Twitter.

02:02:53.000 Sweet, thanks for coming on.

02:02:54.000 I released a pretty interesting video on YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange about the shifting tides.

02:03:00.000 I just released another masterclass on LukeUncensored.com and another video on Robert Malone specifically talking about the Indiana life insurance CEO and his comments about the 40% excess deaths in certain age groups.

02:03:14.000 So if you want to see that video, LukeUncensored.com.

02:03:16.000 Hope to see some of you guys there.

02:03:18.000 Thanks for having me.

02:03:19.000 Thank you guys for tuning in for this first show of the new year.

02:03:22.000 It's gonna be a doozy of a year.

02:03:23.000 I am feeling very positive.

02:03:25.000 I'm just really intrigued to see what happens.

02:03:27.000 Thank you guys for joining us as we start this new journey.

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02:03:38.000 There we go.

02:03:39.000 Timothy?

02:03:41.000 Yeah.

02:03:41.000 We'll see you guys over at TimCast.com.

02:03:43.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 04, 2022

Timcast IRL - Joe Rogan Leads EXODUS From Twitter To GETTR After Dr. Malone BANNED w-Zaid Jilani

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