On this episode of the podcast, Michael Knowles joins us to talk about his new book, "Speakerless" and why he thinks John McAfee may have killed himself in prison. Plus, we hear about a conspiracy theory about why Joe Biden is going after guns again.
00:01:15.000Yeah, there's no... I think the conspiracy theory is that John McAfee killed himself in prison, right?
00:01:22.000That is the least plausible explanation.
00:01:24.000Well, definitely, I want to save it because this is going to be big, so we'll just do quick intros, but the long story short is McAfee has repeatedly said he would never take his own life.
00:01:34.000They're now reporting he apparently did.
00:01:37.000He was about to be extradited back to the U.S.
00:01:39.000where he said they were going to get him.
00:01:40.000They were claiming he had crypto hidden and owed tax dollars he wasn't paying.
00:02:18.000I am so exhausted because this is book week.
00:02:21.000So the book Speechless came out yesterday and they just send you on this tour and you just, you're talking, I've been shilling this thing for six months but now this is the week to do it.
00:02:30.000So I'm really glad we could get a little music going, loosen up a little.
00:02:33.000Plus I think we've already done enough shilling for your book personally on this show.
00:02:44.000Because everybody was super chatting something like, this latest news story has left me speechless, just like Speechless by Michael Noyles.
00:02:52.000It was one of the smartest marketing campaigns, mind you.
00:02:55.000It was a brilliant marketing campaign that I never thought of.
00:03:00.000I guess you guys put together a montage of me getting caught by the super chats and being like, oh, they got me.
00:03:08.000So yeah, yeah, we'll definitely we'll talk about all that as well. We got you. Hey everybody Ian cross. Oh, what's up,
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00:07:05.000He tried to love this country, but the U.S.
00:07:07.000government made his existence impossible.
00:07:09.000Now, I'm going to jump over to this article from Cassandra Fairbanks over at TimCast.com, because she actually breaks down what makes this story so interesting.
00:07:16.000In Cassandra's article, she notes several tweets from McAfee himself.
00:07:20.000He tweeted once, getting subtle messages from US officials saying in effect,
00:07:24.000we're coming for you McAfee, we're going to kill yourself.
00:07:28.000I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't, I was whacked.
00:07:32.000Check my right arm. And he has a tattoo on his right arm that says, it's a dollar sign and whacked.
00:07:38.000She also mentions a year before that tweet he claimed, if I hang myself a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine.
00:07:47.000The eccentric figure was arrested by Spanish authorities on October 3rd, 2020 at the El Prat airport at the behest of the US government.
00:07:53.000He was wanted for evading paying millions of dollars in taxes.
00:07:56.000He was facing up to 30 years in prison.
00:07:58.000Here's another tweet from John McAfee who said, powerful people who commit crimes have only one enemy, those who reveal crimes.
00:08:36.000Or did he... I should say, if he did kill himself, that means everything he tweeted was an elaborate plot to manipulate people in the event he actually did, or whatever.
00:08:56.000Which makes the assumption that what people think about Epstein, and we all know that story.
00:09:02.000In this instance, I'm just gonna say it.
00:09:05.000McAfee repeatedly said he would never kill himself.
00:09:08.000That means you would have to believe he set up an elaborate plot to manipulate everybody in the event he actually did.
00:09:15.000Because not only are they saying it is suicide when he said he wouldn't do it, but after he died, we get this.
00:09:21.000Mike Rothschild says, John McAfee's final Instagram post.
00:09:24.000A giant Q. The post went up around 1.15 Pacific Time, meaning he was likely already dead, but he or someone else on his team knew exactly what to do to achieve maximum-ish posting effect.
00:11:07.000Yeah, I think it was the FBI or CIA, but somebody was like involved with his death and his family got paid out by the government.
00:11:13.000I don't know a whole lot about it, so I don't want to wade too much into conspiratorial territory, but wasn't there like a letter sent to him by some Fed telling him to kill himself or something like that?
00:11:20.000Well, you know, it's certainly the case that the federal government was keeping tabs on him, as they were on many other radical figures.
00:11:49.000In this case, though, We have seen, every single American, such corruption from the federal agencies in just the last five years.
00:12:00.000The federal agencies being turned on a political opponent during the 2016 race to try to subvert that election.
00:12:06.000Then they continued to go after Trump after he was in office.
00:12:09.000Then the complete dishonesty that we've gotten from the federal government and the international community during COVID, during the lockdowns, changing his story every day.
00:12:20.000When we assume that the federal government is just popping people off in prison, and we just shrug our shoulders, what's going to happen with the McAfee story?
00:12:45.000There's that story right now of this grandma who got a misdemeanor charge for the insurrection, which really does set a, you know, a sledgehammer to the narrative.
00:12:53.000Oh, some little old lady got a misdemeanor slap on the wrist for what you call an insurrection.
00:13:00.000But you look at still the lopsided prosecution of this, where in New York, it was just reported by the New York Post, hundreds of charges related to looting and rioting were dropped.
00:13:08.000The majority of charges in the Bronx and in Manhattan, the majority of them, completely dismissed.
00:13:14.000And then the other ones, by the way, where people are looting, where people are robbing, pled down to trespassing, which carries no jail time, a very simple charge.
00:13:23.000January 6th, though, is an insurrection.
00:13:26.000If you put on the horn helmet and you go dance on Nancy Pelosi's lectern, that is a crime against humanity for which you need to go to Gitmo.
00:13:35.000Obviously, the double standard is preposterous.
00:13:37.000You think of this little old granny from the Capitol riot.
00:13:40.000If she had just thrown a Molotov cocktail at a courthouse in Minneapolis, she'd get off scot-free.
00:13:45.000But there's obviously a massive double standard here.
00:13:48.000To be fair, though, the ones they go after What is that phrase we keep hearing with January 6th?
00:14:13.000What is that phrase we keep hearing with January 6th, the coup, the insurrection, you know,
00:14:19.000the phrase we, we keep hearing is that this is a threat to our democracy, our, and.
00:14:27.000I'm reminded of this point by Angelo Cotevilla.
00:14:29.000He's a scholar at the Claremont Institute who points out that The people who talk about our democracy tend to be referring to their oligarchy.
00:14:39.000They don't seem to be very democratic at all.
00:14:41.000I know John McCain started calling people friends.
00:14:56.000So I was one of those people that said, you know, sad to see John McCain pass when he did.
00:15:01.000But like literally every political quadrant of the political spectrum, there was a meme where it was like, centrists were like, you know, I can pay respects in death.
00:15:11.000And the authoritarian left, libertarian left, libertarian right, authoritarian right, were all like, he was awful and evil and good riddance.
00:15:17.000But anyway, going back to the McAfee thing, I'm talking about this conspiracy.
00:15:21.000This post that goes up on his Instagram, the big Q.
00:15:24.000What was John McAfee wanted for? He wasn't some political figure. It was tax evasion.
00:16:23.000I worked for Vice, I know all about it.
00:16:24.000That's right, you have a sort of association to this story.
00:16:28.000Obviously the guy lived a colorful life, to say the very least, but the fact that this guy was being held in a Spanish prison, the U.S.
00:16:34.000is trying to extradite him, he's a very well-known figure, but all the details are kind of murky, and then he winds up dead after saying he would never kill himself?
00:16:54.000So, is this a guy who was old, no money left, in prison, and so he was like, my last hoorah is gonna be the best troll ever pulled off by anyone.
00:17:03.000Oh, rather than get stuck in prison and just rot away.
00:17:06.000Yeah, he's an old, old guy, and he was like, I am gonna pull off the greatest troll in the history of mankind.
00:17:53.000Cause they didn't want to leave a mess.
00:17:54.000Like it's just really weird psychology going on.
00:17:56.000I don't know if he was just beaten down in prison, if he was being tortured, if he, if he was under threat of like torture and like going to give up some people that he actually did give his money to that now he's just kind of lied and killed himself to protect them.
00:18:08.000Well, one of the things he said in one of his tweets earlier was that all the Bitcoin that he had amassed had kind of disappeared to, I think, Tim McAfee, which is kind of interesting to me.
00:18:16.000So he's already saying that he doesn't have any money.
00:18:19.000So I don't know if you're going to die.
00:18:21.000And if you are an ish poster in life, then you might want to be one in death as well.
00:19:06.000And whether it's with the election, whether it's with some corruption in the federal government, I keep waiting for the date and it never comes around.
00:19:14.000Epstein is trending nationwide on Twitter.
00:20:19.000If we are all... I think probably the vast majority of Americans believe that Jeffrey Epstein was offed or someone was permitted to off him or there was some corruption involved.
00:20:30.000And yet... And that's the way the government works.
00:20:36.000The best tweet out of the entire, when the story broke, was it was Chris Ragon who said he got into an Uber and the driver immediately turns and goes, yo, that guy didn't kill himself.
00:20:47.000Like this random Uber driver said that.
00:21:38.000I wouldn't say I would weight it as the most probable.
00:21:42.000But here you got a guy who was living large, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars from who knows where, doing whatever he wanted to do.
00:21:51.000Imagine if this guy's whole MO was that he was filming these elites in compromising positions and then blackmailing them.
00:21:58.000And they were scared that if they went against him, he'd release footage of them.
00:22:01.000That's like one of the conspiracy theories.
00:22:04.000Now imagine he ends up in prison having lost, and he knows he's done, and you've got a lot of people, wealthy individuals, who are sweating bullets.
00:22:12.000It may have just been that the elites he was blackmailing, should he have been?
00:22:59.000The thing is, the government, doesn't like copycat criminals, which is part of why they're cracking down so hard on people that are violating federal buildings and federal property.
00:23:07.000And the reason why they go after people for tax evasion, because if McAfee gets away with millions of dollars tax evasion, gets away with it.
00:24:11.000Let's do a bit of a hard segue here because, you know, I'm just thinking about the corruption of the elites, the ideology that permeates through them, and there's only so much we can say necessarily about or speculating on, you know, McAfee or Epstein.
00:24:28.000But we have this other story that I want to jump into.
00:24:31.000Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley defends teaching critical race theory in the military, slams offensive claims that troops are turning woke, and links white rage to the Capitol riot.
00:24:41.000Now I know it's not the perfect segue off of, you know, what we were just talking about, but there is this core element of what's happening to our political elites, our establishment, our industry elites, the ideology they've embraced, and this story actually freaked me out to see Joint Chief Chairman, who's a general, Mark Milley, saying that he's reading Mao Zedong and Lenin, But that doesn't make him a communist.
00:25:03.000And that white rage was what caused January 6th, essentially.
00:25:34.000Sorry, I thought I was supposed to macro-aggress.
00:25:36.000Right, I have a gun for that reason, but apparently... So I have to wonder about... These are people who believe there is no truth but power.
00:25:44.000They have routinely said there is no objective reality, and the idea that there is no truth but power is... I would say to a certain degree there's an element of truth to it, but it is a very, very fascistic ideology that is being employed by the left.
00:25:56.000When I say there's a certain element of truth, basically that means, sure, if a bunch of leftists have weapons and are beating you and then demand you say there are five lights, you can force someone to say there are five lights.
00:26:09.000But the history books will tell you that there were right and that's what that's what the left has realized
00:26:15.000That they can beat people in a submission to just say Falsehoods under the under the and assert it's true, and
00:26:22.000then they're hoping that in 10 years These stories will become history right
00:26:28.000Well, the left tells us they're doing this with the 1619 Project.
00:26:31.000They say outright, this woman, Nicole Hannah-Jones, lied about her central thesis.
00:28:12.000He was like, come August 15th, when these kids go back to school, these moms in the suburbs are going to explode when they see what's being taught to these kids and what they're mandating.
00:28:21.000Putting the kids in the corner, make them wear a mask, whatever it is.
00:28:23.000But I really do think... Imagine what happens when... I mean, first of all, imagine this.
00:28:30.000Your kid just turned 18, wants to join the Navy.
00:28:32.000He comes back to visit you after basic training, and it's like, so what'd you learn?
00:28:35.000And he's like, I learned you're an evil oppressor, white devil.
00:30:23.000And the idea that we need deconstruction in the military, we need destruction from the military, but we don't need deconstruction within the military.
00:30:30.000That's a recipe for national death, which is probably what they want.
00:30:33.000I mean, physical deconstruction of foreign military bases with use of ordinance.
00:30:41.000Philosophical deconstruction of the system in place, which we use to defend our country.
00:30:46.000Not so much, but that's what's happening.
00:30:47.000But do you know, this I think brings up an important point for conservatives or even people who are just not woke, who are kind of normal.
00:30:54.000The reason they fail a lot of the time is because they are arguing in fantasy world American government.
00:31:02.000So that when they make arguments about American politics, they're making arguments about the three branches of government, and the checks and balances, and the separation, and the thing that you probably are no longer taught in civics class, but you used to be taught.
00:31:13.000The left is playing in the political realities.
00:31:31.000Our laws are effectively made by oligarchs in Silicon Valley.
00:31:34.000As Mitch McConnell pointed out the other day, they behave like a woke parallel government.
00:31:38.000The left knows that, so they engage in politics in a much more effective way, because they go where the power really is, not the fantasy of where power used to be a hundred years ago.
00:31:48.000This is why I think what you guys over at The Daily Wire are doing with movies and things is so important, building culture, and that's why I...
00:31:56.000Want to do the exact same thing, right?
00:31:57.000So I mentioned we have this paranormal writer who's joining.
00:32:02.000Doing a show about ghosts and Bigfoot, it sounds really silly.
00:32:07.000A lot of people who are much more intelligent or well-versed in politics might be like, how is this going to explain to people what's happening?
00:32:29.000Well, you'll also see on the website news stories.
00:32:32.000And then you might click on a news story and say, I didn't realize Russiagate was fake news because I only ever watch CNN.
00:32:37.000So we do things that are fun to create a welcoming, inspirational, and fun place where you can also get access to information that you maybe won't get in other places.
00:32:52.000And when it comes to this general, Millie, the things he's saying, what do you think... I'll say this, there's a phrase, out of sight out of mind.
00:33:02.000You ever notice that thing where you'll hear a word for the first time, and then all of a sudden you'll hear it everywhere?
00:33:07.000Or you'll see a car for the first time, you'll buy a car and then all of a sudden you see it everywhere?
00:33:12.000I don't know, but it's the general idea, you know, out of sight, out of mind.
00:33:16.000When you're thinking of something, you'll start to see it more.
00:33:19.000If you constantly fight the culture war in the leftist terms, then what happens is, you are arguing, is critical race theory, the idea that X, Y, and Z, right or wrong?
00:33:32.000What happens then is, you have a lot of people say, critical race theory.
00:33:45.000Republicans and conservatives don't fight on their own battlefield.
00:33:49.000And you know, probably the most sympathetic historian of critical theory, Martin Jay, who I actually discuss in this book, speechless, Martin Jay made this point that critical theory is not so much an academic system as it is a gadfly on other systems.
00:34:05.000So critical theory is just this analytical lens that kind of infiltrates history and
00:34:10.000literature and just every... now it's infiltrating the hard sciences for goodness sake.
00:34:14.000Yes, it's just kind of spreading throughout the university.
00:34:17.000But you know, on the Breitbart point though, I do think there needs to be an addendum or
00:34:21.000a caveat to it, which is what Breitbart said is true.
00:34:24.000Culture influences politics, no doubt.
00:34:26.000But because what he said is a slogan and all slogans are wrong, it also needs to be corrected, which is culture is downstream of politics, too.
00:36:52.000Where it's like low quality, like religious right wing stuff.
00:36:56.000But now it's like something changed where We're starting to see conservatives like the Daily Wire make Run Hide Fight, which is actually a really well-made movie.
00:37:05.000And it's not just like, you know, a wholesome... I mean, it's kind of a gritty movie.
00:37:10.000And then you're starting to see the left make these really awful movies, and I'm wondering if in like 10 years...
00:37:15.000The left is going to be a bunch of pseudo-religious cult doctrine videos.
00:38:20.000We keep hearing, and even some conservatives when it comes to the anti-riot bills, they're like, make the penalty harsher.
00:38:26.000And I'm like, well, if you enforced the first penalty, you wouldn't need to make it harsher.
00:38:30.000I don't care if someone's black, white, Asian, Latino, gay, straight, whatever.
00:38:34.000If they're violent against somebody, they committed a crime, we stop them.
00:38:38.000Going after them with harsher penalties due to motives is insane because it requires mind reading.
00:38:43.000I'm okay with premeditation rules, because, like, if you do plan it, I mean, maybe there's, like, an impetus of psychosis there that's a little more dangerous for society.
00:38:53.000You can actually prove if someone planned it.
00:38:56.000You're not asking about the motivations that went into the plan, you're just saying, here we go, we know this guy thought it out, and that's different than manslaughter.
00:39:03.000I gotta point this out, because I did pull up this CNN article about the Karen trailer, and it's actually getting flack, because people are claiming they're just ripping off Get Out.
00:39:14.000No, the difference is Get Out was a good movie.
00:40:24.000I changed my mind later on when I was like, you know, I shouldn't be against artful depictions, and I shouldn't play that game about, you know, criticizing a movie I haven't seen.
00:40:32.000And then it turns out, when I watched the movie, it was actually really good.
00:40:34.000Well, because it's... I don't think it's advocating that the liberals go out and kidnap... They're the bad guys!
00:40:44.000Two different factions in this movie, snooty liberal elites who are just, they hate these right-wing conspiracy theorists so much they want to kill them, and then you have just dumb right-wing conspiracy theorists where you're kind of annoyed by them believing stupid things, but they're not bad people, they're doofy people.
00:41:01.000This is what's actually giving me hope.
00:41:03.000You know, you say that Steve Bannon says, we're winning, and I'll believe it when I see it.
00:41:08.000I've been burned too many times, folks.
00:41:10.000But the thing that does give me hope When these people of all different colors, parents of all different shapes and sizes all around the country, show up to yell about critical race theory.
00:41:27.000But the very fact that these people are showing up, these ordinary Americans, and then snooty elites, radical elites, make fun of them, call them, I don't know, you might say deplorable, irredeemable, bitter clinger or whatever.
00:41:41.000And you are further alienating the common sense American people from this ruling class that absolutely despises them.
00:41:49.000That is, in real time, a win for conservatives.
00:42:03.000So I'm interested, though, in the same... I do want to talk about the Loudon stuff, but we'll get to that in a bit.
00:42:09.000In terms of movies like this this Karen one considering how like Really over-the-top the trailer is I'm wondering if that'll have a similar effect if people start seeing movies like this where it display I mean this is it this is culture right in the movie the hunt the liberal elite to the bad guys I'm gonna spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen it you care if I spoil it spoil it The woman who's leading the liberals is kidnapping people because they were spreading conspiracy theories about her online and her friends decided to help her out.
00:42:37.000It turns out one of the women who was kidnapped, I think she was like former military, and it was the wrong name.
00:42:43.000So what it turns out is this innocent woman was being harassed and they were trying to kill her and she had nothing to do with their politics.
00:42:50.000And I thought that was a really interesting message based on what we're seeing in the political landscape.
00:42:55.000Regular people who don't care, who don't want to be involved, are being forced into it and accused of being racist and being monsters and now are being forced to fight for their lives.
00:43:04.000So when I see something like this Karen movie, a lot of people have already said Karen is a racial slur and you shouldn't say it.
00:43:10.000I've had people email me like, Tim, don't use that word.
00:43:13.000I guess it literally is a racial, I'll say it, but it is a racial slur.
00:43:17.000It references specifically like... White chicks.
00:43:26.000And so I wonder though, how many women named Karen had no issues in politics, didn't care, and then all of a sudden started feeling bad because people were insulting them based on their name.
00:44:26.000I hope that that is the case because it pains me to hear these stories that you're mentioning of someone who says, well, I'm not like that.
00:44:40.000But you have to come to the realization, if you are in any way conservative, and by the way, it's not even on the racial politics if you're just white, if you're black but you go along with the conservative point of view, you are considered just as bad if not worse.
00:47:18.000And then we're also planning on having on another a few other leftist personalities, people who actually, I think, want to engage in the robust challenge of a good debate.
00:47:28.000Like, I think Vosh loved it because he had a bunch of clips where they said I was dumb.
00:47:32.000And of course, we got clips where they're like, he's dumb.
00:48:10.000Ambushes Crowder with a guy who's known for not getting a lot of traffic and for trying as hard as possible to get bigger channels to debate him so he can get views.
00:48:19.000So Crowder's like, I have no obligation to give you the time of day.
00:48:22.000You've been blacklisted by so many other channels, they refuse to talk to you.
00:48:25.000And I'll tell you this, behind the scenes, a bunch of podcast networks have already blacklisted.
00:48:32.000Because he doesn't, this is what he tries to do.
00:48:33.000He tries to use drama to get attention.
00:48:35.000He's been blacklisted by a bunch of very big podcasts, even some more lefty ones, because he's viewed as a drama baiter who tries to get attention by just...
00:48:45.000Causing fights and stuff like that yeah, but you know the right opens themselves up to these kinds of attacks when they go into the sort of The free marketplace of ideas must always prevail and we must always debate everything with everybody and we can never cancel or ostracize anybody and I think That's not true.
00:49:19.000From this point forward, I think it should be clear to everybody, Ethan Klein should be off limits for any legitimate political podcast.
00:49:27.000Of course, the left will probably engage with him because they're gonna be like, hey, it's an opportunity to get views, and they like what he did.
00:49:33.000But for anybody who is moderate, anti-woke, or wants to have a legitimate conversation, so this would be like intellectual dark web types, as well as any other legitimate news outlet, you can't do it.
00:49:44.000Not with somebody who's willing to poison the political discourse for personal gain.
00:49:49.000Well, you think about how dumb most debates are.
00:49:52.000It's really sad because not that long ago, you go back like 30 years, there were pretty popular debates that would air on TV or certain areas.
00:50:00.000Yeah, Burroughs was pretty well known for that.
00:50:02.000Yeah, or you think Firing Line or those kind of shows.
00:50:04.000And now they're just really dumb and it's just like two heads screaming at each other for five minutes on cable TV or something.
00:50:28.000I would give this advice to Steven and to anybody who finds themselves in one of the situations.
00:50:34.000If I agreed to do an interview with someone like Ethan and they decided to pull up one of these, you know, con, you know, individuals, As soon as it popped up, I wouldn't laugh.
00:50:44.000I would say, Ethan, look, I got very little time.
00:50:47.000I know we agreed to have a conversation.
00:50:49.000I'm not interested in talking to this guy.
00:50:51.000I mean no disrespect, but I'm gonna respectfully say no to this circumstance, and if you wanna reschedule, I'm more than happy to.
00:51:22.000Like, you go into it with the understanding of what the words are and what exactly they mean.
00:51:26.000If we could do that, that'd be great, but nobody does that anymore, so debate's meaningless.
00:51:29.000I mean, we can't, even in the broader culture, the words... I mean, this happens to be the subject of my book, Lang Truman, but we actually can't agree on even the definition of man or woman, so obviously we can't agree on the rules of this sort of a debate.
00:51:41.000And the problem for it in the broader politics is the left, getting back to your culture point, Tim, the left has a narrative about the country.
00:51:52.000America is an evil, rotten, bigoted place that was founded by white guys to preserve their own property so that they can rape, kill, pillage, and burn.
00:51:58.000You now have someone on the American Olympic team, or I suppose an alternative, Should have been removed immediately.
00:52:27.000The United States of America was an ideological revolution, one of the first times in history that human beings realized government was derived from the will of the people and not divine providence.
00:52:35.000That, due to a variety of issues pertaining to the separation of the power of the crown in Europe with the thousands of miles to the United States, there were individuals who were more reliant and dependent upon themselves, which they then came to realize through the teachings of people like Locke, and their own experiences that the king simply saying by
00:52:54.000decree by divine providence they were in charge made little to no sense on
00:53:11.000What America represents to me is one of the most profound and brilliant things
00:53:16.000Because while we have mocked the idea of the failures of modern America's exporting democracy, as if, you know, I love the American dad joke where they're in, I think, Saudi Arabia, and they're like, I can't remember where they were, but they're like, democracy kicked in!
00:53:30.000And then everything changes, and women are wearing Daisy Dukes, and people are cracking beers.
00:54:00.000OK, now, I'm going to prove my own theory by disagreeing with your History of America.
00:54:06.000Now, I think the account you give is fair enough, and I think a lot of people would agree with it.
00:54:09.000But, I would point out, our founding fathers wrote at considerable length about Providence.
00:54:14.000They thought that the country was brought about in this liberal revolution.
00:54:19.000Some might say, but through Providence.
00:54:22.000I mean, the very fact that Washington escaped from Brooklyn was an act of God.
00:54:26.000The very fact that this man survived his horse getting shot out from under him multiple times was seen to be an act of God.
00:54:32.000And of course, there's a deep Christian history to America.
00:54:36.000The pilgrims land at Plymouth Rock and then two Indians walk out of the woods speaking one okay English and one nearly perfect English.
00:54:44.000These are like the only two guys in the hemisphere that speak I don't think that's at odds, necessarily.
00:54:50.000The idea was that, certainly, they were very religious, very Christian, but the king simply just asserted his power to rule the divine right.
00:55:00.000Yes, and well, we can get into divine right later, but yes, I agree with your point.
00:55:04.000Obviously, they leave the king, they don't establish a monarchy in America, but I guess the problem for this is, in your telling, America begins in 1776.
00:55:15.000But there are other dates you can choose, as the New York Times told us.
00:55:18.000I've often dated America to 1620, to the landing of the Mayflower.
00:55:23.000But you could date America to a dozen years earlier, to the landing at Jamestown, where there was a landage entry.
00:55:28.000I also don't think that disagrees with what I'm saying.
00:55:47.000And, more importantly, I think you're right.
00:55:49.000I think it perhaps could have been the Pilgrim's Landing, Mayflower, Plymouth Rock, all that stuff.
00:55:52.000It was when people separated themselves from literally the continent on which they were being ruled and found their own lives and had to make the rules for themselves.
00:56:02.000But then is the story one of separation or one of continuity?
00:56:06.000Because I think the libs would tell us that the story of America is that we totally rejected the old world.
00:56:11.000But I think the conservatives, following the example of Edmund Burke, would tell us, no, actually, unlike the French Revolution, which was a radical revolution, the American Revolution was a conservative revolution because we actually kept our rights of Englishmen.
00:57:49.000Just think for two seconds that the Founding Fathers, who had a lot of really bad ideas in terms of how they lived culturally, I mean, slavery for one, but they laid the groundwork, the seeds were planted for liberty, which led to really smart and amazing people, Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and incredible writing that ultimately ended slavery in a bloody battle over this, you know, to end this horrific institution.
00:58:15.000But is that not just the progressive telling?
00:58:16.000have today, civil rights, one of the most respectful countries on the planet in
00:58:20.000terms of your right to identify however you choose, would not exist without the
00:58:25.000Founding Fathers recognizing life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:58:27.000But is that not just the progressive telling? I mean, yes, of course we say
00:58:31.000like it's nice that, you know, there's no Jim Crow. It's nice that people have their rights.
00:58:35.000You can look at certain countries that have, like, what India still has a caste system.
00:58:49.000The issue is, the reason why I say they are evil, not all of them, but look at that Chrissy Teigen direct message, where the guy says, please, I've never said these words before.
00:59:06.000And then you look at Steven Crowder saying, I'd like to have a reasonable conversation, and then they ambush him, laugh, cut things out of context, and then say, we win!
00:59:15.000They don't want a political conversation, they don't want things to improve, they just want to watch the world burn.
00:59:19.000Yes, I just I want to be even more depressing about it.
00:59:23.000I feel like you're not being depressing enough.
00:59:25.000The more depressing thing is I fear we've all kind of imbibed this progressive history because we say some things have gotten better.
00:59:31.000So we say, you know, we give credit for the Founding Fathers for setting us up from that terrible old time to this great new time.
00:59:38.000And the left hates the Founding Fathers because they say they tolerated this bad time in the old past, but now we have this good new time.
00:59:44.000But what if it's even worse than that?
00:59:46.000What if the time we're living in is no better than the time the Founding Fathers lived in?
01:00:15.000And just take the most obvious example.
01:00:17.000We kill a million babies a year, legally.
01:00:20.000Legally, in this country right now, we kill a million babies a year.
01:00:24.000I suspect that some future generation is going to come to grips with this moral horror, and they're going to look at us and say, huh, in that wonderful new time that they were all living in, That seems perhaps more evil than the old time it replaced.
01:00:38.000But is it just two steps forward, one step back?
01:00:40.000Is it that there really are... Two steps back.
01:00:42.000No, no, I agree that there's a lot of things that have come about more recently that have been really bad.
01:00:47.000I mean, the progressives of the early 1900s were eugenicists.
01:01:09.000I'm so glad to hear you say this because this is something that the conservatives say, my beloved fellow conservatives, that drives me crazy.
01:01:17.000They say we had freer speech back in the day and now we're being censored.
01:01:24.000Like, in some ways, we had better speech back in the day.
01:01:28.000But in many ways, you're much freer to say what you want to say today than you were.
01:01:32.000I mean, you can say whatever you want on TV.
01:01:34.000He got arrested for his comedy routine.
01:01:38.000And it was, I think, was it Brandenburg v. Ohio that set the current standard we understand?
01:01:43.000Also, I was researching gun rights laws.
01:01:46.000Gun rights were way more restrictive in the 80s, and now we're getting constitutional carry.
01:01:51.000It used to be may issue, not shall issue, for concealed carry permits, meaning most of the states in this country would be like, we're not giving you a concealed carry permit, bye bye, you can't do anything about it.
01:01:59.000Now laws have been passed that actually have expanded our rights.
01:02:01.000I'm like, sounds like we're winning in this regard.
01:02:03.000But I'd actually like to take, again, the more pessimistic view.
01:02:07.000I feel like, you know, When we say that we have freer speech now, one, I think that's got a bad understanding of liberty to it.
01:03:20.000I want to make sure we talk about your book, but there was something I was trying to talk about back when we were talking about this general, and I think we had a great conversation.
01:03:28.000I want to talk about the Ramifications of a woke military.
01:03:32.000Because the wokeness has spread far and wide to the point where one of our generals is saying, so what's so wrong about reading Mao and doing all these things?
01:04:25.000China came out and said that they will join Russia in a counterattack against the US.
01:04:31.000Now is not the time for our general to come out and say, I am pathetic and weak and have no strength of will of my own mind.
01:04:39.000Well, the problem is that Xi Jinping and Putin, they have YouTube and they saw that woke army ad and they said, duh, the lesbian mothers and the pride, invade today, invade.
01:04:50.000And of course they were inviting the aggression.
01:04:57.000And then I see these Biden voters on Facebook being like, even Putin's recognizing that Joe Biden's strong.
01:05:03.000Republicans are trying to make, like, Republicans want Putin to win because they hate Biden so much, but even Putin recognizes Biden is not losing his mind.
01:05:12.000And I'm like, Putin wants to destroy us and wants us to keep voting for the man who has no lucidity left so that he can win a war.
01:05:20.000So obviously you had Trump's foreign policy, whatever you think of the individual incidents.
01:05:25.000The genius of it, of course, was you just never knew what this guy was going to do.
01:06:03.000And the sad fact is, If you know that you're going to get a traditional liberal establishment foreign policy, of course you're going to aggress in the South China Sea if you're Xi Jinping.
01:06:14.000Do you really think the American people are ready for a war to defend Taiwan?
01:07:24.000I think there's a glimmer of hope, because the American people are repulsed by this sort of thing.
01:07:27.000But they're really depressed by it, I think.
01:07:30.000When you see that Russian military ad, where it shows, like, this... Super Chad?
01:07:35.000This ripped Super Chad, shaved head, and he puts the hood on, and then he's, like, he's looking down, he's all angry, and then he jumps out of the plane, and parachutes, and then he lands, he's got a bolt-action rifle, and it's dark colors, and it's like... And you're like, whoa!
01:08:30.000But, you know, even among conservatives right now, so-called conservatives,
01:08:35.000They're going to be people who say, well, you know, I think actually if a transgender person wants to serve in the military, that's perfectly fine.
01:08:42.000Well, you know, I think women should be in combat positions.
01:08:44.000And well, I think, and you just think, oh, oh, so you're not serious about this either.
01:08:48.000I don't think that there is anyone advocating for trans soldiers in Putin's Russia or Xi Jinping's China.
01:08:52.000Well, but I don't, I don't, I, I, if somebody wants to, uh, go shoot the bad guys, I don't care who they are, what they think they are, what they believe in.
01:09:02.000If a guy thinks he's a woman and is demanding really crazy medical treatments and clearly doesn't have his grip on reality, I don't think I want that guy in the military.
01:09:13.000Call me an extremist, but it seems like there's a problem.
01:09:22.000If they fall, then you have no protection on the side.
01:09:25.000And by the way, you know, the reason I don't want women in combat is not because I don't think women are perfectly capable.
01:09:31.000Obviously, they're not as physically strong as men, which is why they're losing all the weightlifting competitions now, including in the Olympics, two men.
01:09:37.000But it's because I think it's wrong for society to send its women to go fight.
01:09:48.000And I don't want to live in a world in which I've got a lovely, graceful woman fighting my wars for me.
01:09:54.000Well, so the issue comes down to, I guess, what's the right word?
01:10:01.000You've got, by any means necessary, victories, and moral victory.
01:10:07.000If you have a country that says, we will send wave after wave of our own people, we don't care who they are, how tall they are, if they're a man, if they're a woman, or they're trans, they're gay, they're straight, whatever, we will give them a gun and send them your way.
01:10:18.000But don't you think, like, the fact is women are just not as strong.
01:10:21.000This is not insulting to women, it's just a natural fact.
01:10:24.000And so if you've got an army of all big tough dudes who look like Super Chad from the Russian ad, that is going to be a stronger army than a mixed army with women.
01:10:32.000But that's under the assumption that we lose Some of our, uh, service men by adding service women.
01:10:51.000Well, I mean, but we're also not, we're not Napoleon's army.
01:10:54.000We're not launching these, you know, million-person land wars.
01:10:57.000And I suppose that one of the arguments, I'm not saying that women have no role in helping out the military, I just specifically I'm talking about combat.
01:11:04.000Well, you would get, oh, historically you have a few women, like Tamaris was a Scythian queen and she was a warrior queen and basically stomped out the Persians, more or less.
01:11:44.000I mean, we don't, you know, first of all, the wars we wage are mostly from, like, office buildings in New Jersey where we're fighting with video games to blow up bad guys in Syria.
01:11:53.000But I don't... If we had a genuine shortage of people who were able to hold a gun and shoot it, then I suppose that's a conversation.
01:12:34.000I still think just as a social matter, as a matter of the way that men and women interact with one another, as a matter of chivalry, darn it, the age of chivalry is gone, that of sophisters, economists, and calculators has exceeded it, and the glory of Europe is extinguished forever, to quote the great Edmund Burke.
01:13:25.000A lot of what we talk about, especially when it comes to women in combat, and you mentioned obscenity laws.
01:13:31.000We wouldn't need laws or policy if people had a shared moral framework within their culture.
01:13:38.000It certainly would not be nearly as necessary.
01:13:42.000But again, the law kind of reflects the culture, but the law also influences the culture.
01:13:49.000Jordan Peterson talked about enforced monogamy, and immediately these leftists were assuming he was saying women should be physically forced to be in relationships with nasty men.
01:14:01.000What he meant was, and correct me if I'm wrong, because I think, you know, Lydia might, you know, you might know this.
01:14:05.000What he meant was just there were societal pressures that you were in a relationship, you had an obligation, and if you didn't uphold your contract, then you were looked down upon.
01:14:16.000And when Jordan Peterson made this point, I don't know if he realized this at the time, but he was tapping into something that's absolutely pivotal.
01:14:58.000And so these earlier ages, which had perhaps a more moral and upright or at least virtue-conscious people, also had much stricter laws about obscenity and these sorts of things.
01:15:17.000There's a really great meme where it's a guy on his knee opening up a ring for a woman and he says, will you enter into a government contract with me that guarantees you get all of my stuff and you can also leave it at any time?
01:15:41.000And you know now I know that it is unthinkable that we should possibly make our divorce laws a little more restrictive, but of course we should.
01:16:04.000If a marriage bond means nothing, which practically, I mean, this is your point, and I'm not even just blaming the guys or just blaming the girls.
01:16:49.000I do, I have to thank, I truly need to thank the viewers of this show.
01:16:55.000You, seriously, if this book makes the list, if this book, if the New York Times is forced to put this on the list, if, which I don't think they would do it willingly, but you know, if they were forced, if this book changes the conversation, it is because of the insane viewers of this show.
01:17:21.000I want people to buy Michael Malice's book, Andy Ngo's book, Ben Shapiro books, James O'Keefe books.
01:17:26.000I want it so that when you go to Amazon.com and you click book, the top 10 are from anti-establishment, anti-woke, or just maybe voices you haven't heard of.
01:17:35.000Because for a long period, what were the top books?
01:17:40.000And so what happens is regular people, this is part of the information where you're trying to explain to people your ideas and win hearts and win minds.
01:18:21.000We went back and forth because some people believed that to sell the book we needed one of these kind of sticky covers where I'm like winking or something.
01:18:33.000But I just thought, no, I actually am making an argument here.
01:18:37.000I don't ever intend to write a book again.
01:18:40.000I'm just only writing blank books from now on.
01:18:42.000Going back to my original magnum opus.
01:18:45.000But I do want to make this argument here because I just feel like, I mean, kind of the central point of the book is, Whatever we have done to push back against wokeism has advanced wokeism.
01:18:58.000It's just anything, either we, obviously when you get into it, it advances it, but even when we push back really hard against it, still it advances it.
01:19:04.000And it's because of, Tim, actually a lot of what you've been saying tonight, which is we just don't have any standards, and we're not willing to articulate them.
01:19:11.000But it's not, it's not enough to point that out, because you actually then have to articulate what the standard is, and that is not always popular.
01:19:20.000This is why, years ago, I began... A lot of people would describe the leftists as intersectionalists or feminists, and I started calling them identitarians.
01:19:29.000Because identitarian is typically used by white identitarians.
01:19:34.000Now, identitarianism just means, like, identity and government.
01:19:40.000So it's policy predicated upon your identity.
01:19:42.000Of course, the white identitarians really loved using it, and I said, that's the exact same thing as the critical race theory stuff.
01:19:48.000And so I'm going to, as someone who doesn't like either, I'll refer to them all under the same name.
01:19:54.000I had a conversation with a friend who's like a very prominent activist, very, you know, woke, and I just always refer to them as an identitarian.
01:20:03.000It puts them in the same camp as the white nationalists.
01:20:10.000I mean, I like this point because, you know, You have described what the conservatives keep messing up, which is they keep using the left's own language.
01:20:21.000I just want to make the simplified point.
01:20:23.000If you have a red battlefield and a blue battlefield, And you bring everyone onto the red battlefield and say red is the worst choice.
01:20:33.000It's the only thing that people are experiencing and the only thing they'll talk about.
01:20:36.000They won't even have an experience of blue.
01:20:39.000You need to bring people to your battlefield and make the left come there to argue with you so that instead of learning about critical race theory, they're learning about classical liberalism or conservative values and making the left argue against those.
01:20:50.000Preferably even the more conservative ones.
01:20:54.000But it raises this identity question because you're not saying we can't have any kind of identity.
01:20:59.000Obviously, everybody's got an identity.
01:23:01.000I mean, these days, I think you should win the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
01:23:04.000But it's doing what has to be done to win.
01:23:08.000And if we saw that happening today, if like Donald Trump, you know, when he threatens the press, the media shrieks and howls.
01:23:16.000If in order to win a war, our civil rights were curtailed, we would be furious 50 to 100 years on, and it was the right thing to do.
01:23:23.000Sure, and obviously there's a double standard, because you've got the Obama administration hounding the press and harassing them, and they obviously face no consequences for that.
01:23:33.000So yes, we've become much more, but I guess this gets to my point, we've become much more individualistic, we've become much more jealous about our individual, some might say licentious autonomy, and we've totally lost a sense of what brings us together.
01:23:48.000You know, a republic refers to the things we have in common, right, the public things that we've got together.
01:23:55.000So if the left has lost that because they've become insanely individualistic on the social side, basically they want to Have sex with whoever they want to have sex with, or whatever, right?
01:24:04.000And if the conservatives have become insanely individualistic on, for a long time, the economic side, but on certain aspects of cherished civil liberties, and nobody is paying any attention to what we have to do together, what you have to sacrifice, what you have to suppress, what you have to tamp down in order to have a country together, then obviously the country is going to fizzle and balkanize.
01:24:25.000Well, this is why, right, balkanization is a Best way to describe it.
01:24:29.000You're talking about the Balkan Peninsula, which is like the Greek peninsula north of Greece, where it was just shattered into like Croatia and all these different little countries.
01:24:38.000And I think people have mentioned peaceful divorce, but there have been many individuals for years have been calling for, you know, more extremists calling for Balkanization of the U.S.
01:24:47.000Yeah, and name a peaceful national divorce that has ever taken place in history.
01:24:52.000The Roman Republic split, the Roman Empire split into the Eastern and Western Empire.
01:25:24.000And Joe Biden, when he comes out and speaks, is clearly not talking to Texas or Florida.
01:25:29.000When he was saying earlier in the year, like, oh, we got to, we got to double down on masks and we got to, we got to put more restrictions in place.
01:25:39.000It's not so much that conservatives are necessarily too individualistic.
01:25:43.000It's just that the tribe of conservatives is made up of a bunch of smaller tribes.
01:25:47.000Yes, but they have no reason to come together.
01:25:49.000I mean, there was a moment, it was called fusionism.
01:25:52.000This was the post-World War II conservative movement where Bill Buckley and Frank Meyer and others brought together the libertarians and the traditionalists and the Warhawk Dems, you know, and later on the neoconservatives to come and fight against the Soviet Union.
01:27:12.000Well, I think that is a core component.
01:27:15.000The matrix or out of the matrix could be the easiest way to describe it.
01:27:18.000And then I also think woke versus anti-woke is a very core aspect of that as well, because you turn on MSNBC and they say, Republicans don't want to teach your children about slavery, which is Lies!
01:28:46.000And I wonder, I mean, there's such a pushback against the kind of craziness of the LGBT, transing the kids, drag queen story hour.
01:28:55.000But the elites and the elite institutions are all pushing this.
01:28:58.000I mean, that that is the new national identity.
01:29:01.000So if you're giving an account of what America is, I fear that the pride flag is a matter of our actual governing institutions is more representative.
01:29:10.000I'll tell you my issue with with the embassy's flying flags other than the United States.
01:31:19.000That Memorial Day was set up after the assassination of Lincoln, specifically to honor the dead of the Civil War and all that that war represented.
01:31:27.000I've noticed with, you mentioned Labor Day, all of our holidays, they have to do with gratitude.
01:34:17.000I guess my own, and this kind of gets back to what we were saying earlier about arguing about what the government should be in theory and what it is in practice.
01:34:25.000There could be a wonderful day to celebrate the end of slavery, and sort of Memorial Day is that.
01:34:29.000Though we don't really think of it that way anymore.
01:34:31.000But the fact is, the people who pushed for Juneteenth and wrote the name of the bill and made the debates for it and are celebrating it and are putting the black fist with the either gay or black power colors on the knuckles, all of those guys view it and are presenting it as this resent-filled anti-American day of reckoning And I think, yes, would that we could perceive it another way, but I just don't know.
01:36:23.000I wouldn't care about the pronouns, except that the left really cares about the pronouns, because they know that in these very seemingly trivial things, You carry whole premises.
01:36:33.000In the case of the pronouns, you carry the premise that human nature has nothing to do with our body and a man can be a woman.
01:36:38.000In the case of Juneteenth, you carry the premise that the original Independence Day was a fraud, it was wicked, and the country is now in Juneteenth, the country is evil, and we need to reckon with it.
01:36:48.000Did you see there was one jurisdiction that cancelled their July 4th parade over COVID, but they're having a Juneteenth celebration?
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01:37:45.000All right, John Lee says, Tim, I had some questions.
01:37:47.000Are you going to put the stream on your website?
01:37:52.000We are rebuilding Chicken City to make it bigger and better and improved, and we're doing a lot of work right now.
01:38:00.000It should be done maybe early next week, and then we've got to set up the computers and everything, so... As we get more and more people onto the team, like we're hiring, like I mentioned, the Paranormal Rider and stuff like that, then we can hire faster and faster and faster, but it's a snowball rolling down a hill, so it starts slow.
01:38:19.000We are going to be building this really awesome, we're building this really awesome, like, external little cabin treehouse to house the computers and servers that will be above, or underneath it is the chicken city, where we'll have the cameras in the stream.
01:38:31.000This way we can have a protected area from rain and bad weather, so the cameras can always be operating, and more open space.
01:38:39.000There's some other logistical reasons why we have to move it in order to make it happen, but... They've been eating the ground, right?
01:39:29.000Just like Michael Knowles's new book, Speechless.
01:39:32.000Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which is now on sale.
01:39:34.000You know, if I had really thought to get my own plug-in, I would have done the jam with no words.
01:39:41.000Everybody should buy Michael Knowles' book so that it hits number one and then everyone who goes to Amazon or whatever, they see it and they go, I wonder what this is?
01:39:55.000The one thing I've noticed, you know, I've been perusing the charts just obsessively and just completely neurotically, and I've been looking.
01:40:02.000Apparently, the majority of books in the top 100 books on Amazon are children's books and cookbooks.
01:41:14.000I mean, one of the most powerful things you can do, let me explain some.
01:41:18.000I think Joe Rogan's great with all due respect.
01:41:20.000I think one of the biggest issues for him moving off of iTunes was that because he was first and best dressed when it comes to podcasts, whenever you'd open iTunes, the podcast app, You'd see Joe Rogan by going exclusive to Spotify and getting paid very well for it, mind you.
01:41:41.000So I'm sure it had an impact to a certain degree.
01:41:44.000So I bring that up just because being the top trending anything on an algorithm in front of these big networks means the marketing power you get cannot be paid for.
01:41:56.000If Speechless becomes number one on Amazon, That's marketing power that creates a snowball rolling down a hill.
01:42:02.000You get to a certain threshold, and then people who have not heard about it from this show or any other show start buying it, and then it dominates.
01:42:08.000But the most important thing is the cultural impact it would have for people to see the top-selling book is a book like Speechless.
01:42:14.000It would, and to unseat one of these lib books.
01:42:54.000One of the reasons I would not want to give up something like that is because my goal is not just about me making money and buying a house.
01:43:01.000The way I explain it is, I make money doing this job, and the company's doing really well.
01:43:19.000Like, it was the work of that journalist, and it was what I was able to help fund and pay for.
01:43:25.000So when I'm sitting on my deathbed and I'm thinking about the things I have, I will have historical moments that have done good things, that helped change the world for the better.
01:43:47.000Even when you're in school and you go on vacation, the first two or three days, you're just like loafing around, watching movies, whatever.
01:43:53.000And by day four, you're just suicidal.
01:43:55.000You're just like, give me something to do again.
01:44:26.000And so I'm like pulling up some ghost stories and a lot of them are, no disrespect to some of these shows, I won't call them out by name, but it's like a guy talking to somebody and it's like a phone call and I'm like, where's the true crime style of like with music and stuff, but for the paranormal unexplained?
01:44:57.000I forgot the guy's name who did the voice, but his voice was just so good, and the music was creepy, and I was always, like, sitting there scared.
01:45:04.000And I'm like, I want a show like that!
01:45:11.000He's writing long form pieces every week, exploring a lot of these stories, cults, murders, mysteries, ghosts, Bigfoot, etc.
01:45:17.000And then we're going to turn it into a podcast once a week where it's a combination of story, sound effects, like a feature, plus discussion and conversation after that goes on.
01:45:30.000I mean, I get, you know, DW is trying to do similar sorts of things, but this is the problem where You know, I'm about as conservative as it gets.
01:45:37.000I'm like knuckle-dragging Attila the Hun.
01:45:39.000And yet, Friday night rolls around and me and the Hunny are sitting on the couch watching something, and we're all watching these, you know, they're entertainment pieces, but they're from a Lib perspective, on Lib platforms.
01:45:51.000I'm giving my money to some Lib billionaire, and I think, what?
01:45:58.000But I would say that I think my perspective is going to be a moral framework built on Judeo-Christian values.
01:46:04.000I am not a particularly religious person, but I grew up with America having these values.
01:46:10.000So I don't think, we're not going to make a movie where it's like an evil abortion doctor is going around, you know, kidnapping women or anything like crazy like that.
01:46:17.000No, it'll be like a regular movie, but it'll have tropes about heroic behavior.
01:46:22.000Um, uh, it'll, it'll probably be stories, right?
01:46:25.000It'll be stories that chaos and loss and struggle and just normal things about people in their lives.
01:46:31.000It's not super political, but there will probably just be that perspective within it.
01:46:50.000Blurstar says, Michael, I am an unaligned Christian leaning toward Catholic or Orthodox.
01:46:53.000I think the Pope being the shepherd to the church is important, but I have a problem with papal supremacy.
01:46:58.000What should I do to figure out my internal conflict?
01:47:01.000Well, you should show up to Mass, I believe.
01:47:03.000You know, if your issue is the role of the Pope, and when we say papal supremacy, That can mean a very narrow thing of the special role for the pontiff and the vicar of Christ, or it can mean this ridiculous kind of broad thing where a lot of people misunderstand it to mean that if the Pope says that two plus two equals five, that it does.
01:48:04.000You can trace that unbroken line all the way down.
01:48:08.000The keys are handed to Peter and Christ says, you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
01:48:16.000He says, who sins you forgive are forgiven, who sins you retain are retained.
01:48:19.000I give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
01:48:23.000And Peter ends his life, or his life is ended for him, crucified upside down in Rome.
01:48:29.000And the obelisk that was looking upon that very crucified Peter is now standing in Vatican City.
01:48:36.000And so I think A lot of times you'll hear people make anti-Catholic arguments by going back to the alleged history and they all say there were all these various apostasies and everything.
01:48:45.000I think the history is on the side of Rome.
01:51:03.000The way this is practiced is by learning these liberal arts.
01:51:06.000The problem is that it's very difficult to get a liberal education today.
01:51:09.000At the great schools, what are considered the most prestigious schools, it's almost impossible.
01:51:14.000Donald Kagan, the great ancient Greek historian, former dean of Yale College, he once commented that you did not need a liberal education to graduate from Yale.
01:51:23.000He later commented you might not be able to get a liberal education if you graduate from Yale.
01:51:27.000I think there are a handful of schools where you can get it.
01:51:29.000Hillsdale, Ave Maria, Franciscan of Steubenville, Thomas Aquinas, there are a handful.
01:51:34.000But if you don't get it there, I would strongly recommend you do it yourself.
01:51:38.000You engage in the great reading lists.
01:51:40.000My friend Spencer Clavin has a great podcast on this.
01:51:43.000Ben Walker says, glad to see my favorite austere religious podcaster back on the show.
01:52:15.000Oh yeah, and I want to mention too, because they asked about joining the military.
01:52:17.000My opinion on the military as someone who hasn't served is just, I've talked to a lot of people who said that they ended their careers over the wokens in the military.
01:52:26.000Very sad to see, but I think that's the culmination of the strategy, right?
01:52:30.000The woke people want them to end their And then Russia fires some warning shots and China takes Taiwan, and we go, well, we shouldn't retaliate against China because of white privilege and colonialism.
01:52:42.000We kind of started it, actually, and Taiwan's probably better with them anyway.
01:54:13.000You know, in most movies, there's a very clear antagonist, protagonist, or you know who the good guys, the bad guys are.
01:54:19.000I think it would be interesting to have, you know, there are movies that have done this kind of thing, where you have just the perspective of the two factions and the war they engage in without saying either is good or bad.
01:54:27.000So you're saying you could have two conservatives in the lib go to watch the movie and they each think the other one is the antagonist?
01:54:40.000And the conservative would say the same thing, and the liberal would say the same thing, but it would actually try to be a fair representation of the values, not as they see it, as it is.
01:56:22.000Yeah, I'm not trying to do... You know, this partly came about on Twitter because he mentioned that he's spoken with a ton of conservatives and none of them knew what critical race theory was.
01:56:31.000And to be fair, I think my response to him was not... I could have done a better job.
01:56:36.000The issue with it, you know, when he asked me to define critical race theory, I was like, in layman's terms, I can't give you the academic definition.
01:58:31.000So, you know, it's during Advent, in the month of December, every day, you're supposed to open it up and read some scripture and really meditate on the coming of Christ.
01:58:41.000And then when you're kids, it's really, you just kind of get like a chocolate every single day.
01:58:45.000They have them for adults now, though, which is, it'll have like a little nip in it, you know, some kind of booze.
01:58:51.000You know, usually you open them right in the morning, so it's like, I don't know if I need an eye-opener as I'm awaiting the coming of... When I was little, we had this cloth calendar, where a little mouse would move from day to day, tracking the days, and we had the advent calendars.
01:59:04.000You'd pop open the day, and there'd be scripture, and then you'd get a piece of candy.
01:59:55.000I did know that, and they also, the civilized tribes, I'm not inventing that term, that's actually what they were referred to in parts of the United States, they held slaves at a similar rate to the local whites, and a lot of people don't know that the Native Americans who were marched down the Trail of Tears Wow.
02:01:05.000But the weird thing is, when I went to school when I was growing up, they were like, I see this meme from the left, they're like, why didn't you know about the Tulsa massacre of Black Wall Street?
02:01:37.000And they're like, well, they didn't teach it to me.
02:01:38.000And I was like, did you grow up in a wealthy suburb?
02:01:41.000Well, yeah, I was like, maybe no, no, but for real, you grew up in a white suburb where they probably didn't think it was relevant for you.
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