Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Judge BLOCKS PA Certification, HUGE Win For Trump, w- Jack Murphy

00:00:00.000 Last night we had Sean Parnell on the show.

00:00:17.000 He is a Republican running in, I believe it's PA17.

00:00:19.000 Do you know if that's a district?

00:00:22.000 If you say so, Tim, I think so.

00:00:24.000 Alright, alright.

00:00:25.000 So it's like north of Pittsburgh.

00:00:26.000 And he's down.

00:00:28.000 He's still officially a candidate.

00:00:28.000 I don't think they've certified the election results yet, but he is on track to lose.

00:00:33.000 And he's filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of mail-in voting in Pennsylvania because their

00:00:39.000 constitution already has an absentee ballot provision and the Republicans were not not this is these

00:00:45.000 are my words not not his in my in terms of my opinion he said that the Republicans were trying to

00:00:50.000 pass this law and started the constitutional amendment process and then stopped and then passed the law

00:00:55.000 anyway which means sounds like they knew what they were doing with was unconstitutional.

00:00:59.000 So apparently, Pennsylvania governor announced that he certified the results.

00:01:03.000 And seems like it was done hastily in an effort to try and bypass any litigation or whatever.

00:01:10.000 My understanding is that PA didn't certify in 2016 until December.

00:01:15.000 So like, they waited for a while.

00:01:16.000 Now they've like rushed it through.

00:01:18.000 I didn't even realize it happened.

00:01:19.000 But a judge today said, stop the certification process.

00:01:22.000 It's not official.

00:01:23.000 And now you've got the Democrats being like, yeah, well, we still picked our electors.

00:01:27.000 You can't stop us.

00:01:28.000 And it's just going crazy.

00:01:29.000 I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but Trump is also filing an appeal trying to get Republicans in Pennsylvania to choose their own electors.

00:01:38.000 He's certainly not giving up.

00:01:38.000 They had this hearing where they were talking about voter fraud and stuff, which That hearing stuff they're doing makes me feel like they're not taking it seriously.

00:01:48.000 Because it was at a hotel.

00:01:49.000 But you know what?

00:01:50.000 I don't want to get into too much.

00:01:52.000 We also got some stuff about COVID.

00:01:53.000 Maryland's going crazy.

00:01:54.000 They're launching compliance units that are gonna go around, like, tracking down people who are celebrating Thanksgiving.

00:01:59.000 Open up your door and let us in.

00:02:01.000 They're gonna take, like, GoPros on swivels and, like, you know, raise up to the window and be like, there's people that... No, they're gonna look for cars outside if there's too many... This is for real.

00:02:09.000 They're all my cousins.

00:02:10.000 They all live here.

00:02:11.000 Yeah, everybody lives here.

00:02:12.000 Get out of here.

00:02:13.000 We're car collectors.

00:02:14.000 But it's getting crazy.

00:02:15.000 So anyway, you know, Ian's sick.

00:02:18.000 So his chair is empty.

00:02:20.000 But Jack Murphy's here.

00:02:21.000 Hello, everybody.

00:02:22.000 Good to see you.

00:02:23.000 Glad to be back.

00:02:24.000 Lydia.

00:02:24.000 I am chilling.

00:02:25.000 I'm chilling in a big way.

00:02:27.000 Jack Murphy live here on Timcast.

00:02:30.000 I love it.

00:02:31.000 Yeah, so a lot of people are saying like, Tim, where are all your videos?

00:02:34.000 You know what, man?

00:02:35.000 It's chill day.

00:02:36.000 Holidays are really, really hard to work through because no one else is working.

00:02:40.000 So it's like you're dragging your car by yourself with a tow rope.

00:02:46.000 It's hard to do something when no one else is doing anything.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, but Tim, your audience has to acknowledge that they feel an absence, but that absence is created through your persistence and consistent hard work.

00:02:57.000 You're on the grind like nobody else, putting out more political commentary and news reporting than virtually anybody out there.

00:03:03.000 Isn't that right?

00:03:03.000 I think so.

00:03:04.000 I was talking to a podcasting network and they said, I do more political commentary than anyone else anywhere.

00:03:10.000 Now, there's probably some people, you know, they're talking about in terms of the top podcasts.

00:03:14.000 Does it count when we're talking to Ian as political commentary?

00:03:18.000 Of course, of course.

00:03:19.000 So I do three hours and 45 minutes.

00:03:22.000 Yeah, every day.

00:03:23.000 Except for Saturdays and Sundays, that's an hour and 45.

00:03:25.000 So some days when we go over 10 o'clock, it's like four hours and 20 minutes.

00:03:31.000 There are some days where I've done like seven hours.

00:03:32.000 Yeah, for real.

00:03:33.000 Like when we had Vosh and Alex Jones, that was like five hours, six hours of political commentary in a single day.

00:03:41.000 That's crazy.

00:03:42.000 Or podcast commentary and content stuff.

00:03:45.000 And you doing this consistently over time and delivering high quality.

00:03:48.000 People are looking for you.

00:03:49.000 They're waiting for you.

00:03:50.000 And when they don't get that notification bell, which you should hit, smash that like button, hit that notification bell.

00:03:57.000 You're gone.

00:03:58.000 But guys, Tim's got to take a break.

00:04:00.000 What you been doing?

00:04:00.000 What are you going to do?

00:04:01.000 Well, it's it's it's so I'm actually thinking of doing only one 20 something minute segment in the morning on Timcast News and then my 4 p.m.

00:04:10.000 second on my main channel so that we can start the vlog and do non-political commentary content, which means I'd still have three hours of political commentary every day.

00:04:20.000 No joke.

00:04:20.000 Non-political commentary.

00:04:22.000 Evergreen commentary.

00:04:23.000 Fun stuff.

00:04:23.000 Educational stuff.

00:04:24.000 Inspirational stuff. 0.99

00:04:25.000 Nah, silly nonsense. 0.94

00:04:26.000 We're gonna build a giant airbag and launch ramp and snowboard and stuff. 0.93

00:04:32.000 Maybe break the record for the longest grind rail ever done.

00:04:37.000 Just something else.

00:04:39.000 It's too much in one direction.

00:04:43.000 It's too much political commentary.

00:04:44.000 How much do you think your experience of having your content getting sort of consumed by political commentary?

00:04:53.000 Is that like mirroring the rest of the world, you think?

00:04:55.000 It's everybody, yeah.

00:04:56.000 Like everyone's doing political commentary?

00:04:58.000 Yeah, because I think this was a strategy of the Democrats.

00:05:02.000 They wanted everything to be political because they needed non-voters to vote.

00:05:06.000 They needed regular people who don't care to vote. 0.70

00:05:09.000 How do you get some, you know, 23-year-old dude who's playing video games all day to vote for Joe Biden?

00:05:14.000 You scream in their face and take everything away from them and scream in their face again and finally be like, fine!

00:05:18.000 Yeah, Joe Biden, there you go.

00:05:20.000 Leave me alone.

00:05:20.000 Right, exactly.

00:05:21.000 We talked about that a few weeks ago about the Democrats beating their people over the head, gaslighting, torturing them, basically threatening them.

00:05:29.000 And the only thing they could do is just vote to make it stop.

00:05:31.000 But part of that comes from critical race theory and activists that have produced all these people, these young kids who've taken over corporations.

00:05:38.000 They're taught that politics is personal.

00:05:41.000 It's all personal.

00:05:42.000 And you have to make it personal.

00:05:43.000 And you have to even get in people's personal spaces and make people uncomfortable.

00:05:46.000 And it's consumed everything.

00:05:47.000 And then you take away, you can't go to the football games, you can't go to the basketball games, you can't go to any, you can't do anything.

00:05:53.000 The only show in town is politics.

00:05:56.000 I think we may have crossed the breaking point, like the hard breaking point in this country.

00:06:00.000 So I've talked, you know, I frequently said, you know, we're sitting on the precipice or maybe we've gone over it.

00:06:05.000 I think we hit the ground.

00:06:07.000 I think we went over the precipice a while ago when we hit the ground.

00:06:09.000 With this election, you know, there was a hearing today at the Wyndham in Gettysburg.

00:06:16.000 And you had a bunch of Republicans in there listening to testimony, and man, you had some legit people there.

00:06:23.000 There was one guy who was a former intelligence officer who worked psychological operations who was testifying.

00:06:28.000 You know, Trump called in.

00:06:29.000 But you had a lot of people speaking.

00:06:31.000 That whole thing, it's weird.

00:06:35.000 It kind of freaks me out.

00:06:36.000 Well, can we can we just back up for a second set the stage there?

00:06:38.000 Like, how do you have a hearing in a hotel ballroom?

00:06:41.000 Because it's not official.

00:06:42.000 It's not.

00:06:43.000 It makes me wonder like, was anybody like under oath or sworn in or anything?

00:06:47.000 It was just, yeah, had the feeling of a hearing, but it was really just a sophisticated, or maybe presentation.

00:06:53.000 I think what they're trying to do...

00:06:54.000 I don't know, I'm asking.

00:06:55.000 I think they're trying to...

00:06:57.000 There's like a large angry maga beast snarling.

00:07:02.000 It's like, you know what it is?

00:07:03.000 Here's a good example.

00:07:04.000 It's like trying to calm down the Hulk.

00:07:07.000 Like you know, don't worry Hulk, like you know, you're in the...

00:07:11.000 Here's the real hearing, come sit down.

00:07:13.000 You got all these angry maga people that are, you know, ready to smash. 1.00

00:07:16.000 And so they're like, we're going to do a hearing.

00:07:18.000 And then they show up and everyone's clapping and cheering. 1.00

00:07:20.000 And it's like, bro, they're putting you in the kiddie room and blowing smoke up your ass. 0.99

00:07:24.000 Now, some people out there, well-known commentators on the right, they saw that hearing. 0.99

00:07:30.000 And it really changed the way that they felt about, you know, was there some sort of systemic fraud at play, at least in this state there?

00:07:37.000 In terms of they don't believe it anymore?

00:07:38.000 Or they believe it even more?

00:07:40.000 No, that they believe that it's time for the Democrats to refute the allegations, that they're serious enough, they're credible enough, that the people making the allegations are credible enough, that it demands a refutation, actually proving them to be false.

00:07:53.000 That's why I'm saying we went off the precipice a while ago and we smacked the ground.

00:07:59.000 The precipice of what?

00:07:59.000 That's what I didn't understand at first.

00:08:00.000 Like the point of no return where this country's divide was getting worse and worse every day.

00:08:05.000 And jumping off the cliff was the point where you can't turn back.

00:08:08.000 And then hitting the ground was the point where that it's just done.

00:08:12.000 And now we're staring at each other and people are counting heads.

00:08:16.000 None of this, in my opinion, matters.

00:08:19.000 We know there's evidence.

00:08:20.000 The media is saying there's not evidence.

00:08:22.000 It's just an absolute lie.

00:08:23.000 Did you see that poll?

00:08:24.000 And I don't know who conducted it, so I'm not sure exactly if it's 100% accurate, but it seemed to suggest that they polled Biden voters after the election and asked them, were they aware of Hunter Biden?

00:08:35.000 Were they aware of Operation Warp Speed?

00:08:39.000 Were they aware of our energy independence under Trump, etc., etc.?

00:08:42.000 And they weren't.

00:08:43.000 And they said if they were, they would have voted for Trump in a small, a small enough, a large enough percentage, but it was a small percentage.

00:08:49.000 It was like typically around four to 5% of the people said, wow, I wouldn't have voted for Biden if that was the case.

00:08:53.000 And that's a huge swing for Trump.

00:08:55.000 It would have been sufficient.

00:08:56.000 The media was doing everything in their power to help Joe Biden.

00:09:00.000 Social media was doing everything in its power to help Joe Biden.

00:09:03.000 Joe Biden did not campaign and got 11 million more votes than Barack Obama.

00:09:10.000 Doesn't make any sense, Tim.

00:09:12.000 So listen, you come to me and you say, dude, but people really hate Donald Trump.

00:09:16.000 I say, oh, you betcha.

00:09:17.000 But to beat Barack Obama without campaigning?

00:09:20.000 Now, perhaps you can say, I mean, hold on, just Barack Obama?

00:09:24.000 I went out to vote for Barack Obama, man.

00:09:26.000 I was motivated.

00:09:28.000 I waited in line.

00:09:29.000 I was proud to vote for Barack Obama.

00:09:31.000 I really was in 2008.

00:09:33.000 I certainly was come to regret it, obviously.

00:09:35.000 Yeah, me too.

00:09:36.000 But it was a moment in time.

00:09:37.000 It felt right.

00:09:38.000 And like there was no similar energy around Joe Biden, but maybe maybe this does prove once and for all, hopefully not, that hate is more motivating than than love or hope.

00:09:49.000 I'm not entirely convinced that widespread voter fraud is what cost Trump the election.

00:09:54.000 I think we gotta see evidence.

00:09:56.000 I think what we have right now is the smoke alarm is going off and smoke is billowing out the windows.

00:10:01.000 It's time for the firefighters to go in there because we think there's smoke.

00:10:04.000 So, you know, for me, I've seen enough.

00:10:07.000 The investigations need to happen.

00:10:08.000 But here's the point I'm saying where we smack the ground.

00:10:11.000 It's not gonna matter.

00:10:12.000 Especially when you have these hearings.

00:10:13.000 Now, it's silly that they're happening in like a Wyndham or whatever.

00:10:16.000 That's like, what are they doing, you know?

00:10:18.000 They're going to do it in a couple other states, I guess, but some of these people, man, these are, these are, when I was listening to the certification process for Michigan, some of the people who called in for public, like to say, do not certify.

00:10:30.000 These were like former government officials.

00:10:32.000 These were like, you know, like.

00:10:35.000 Relatively high-ranked individuals in various organizations and government who have said Rattling off all the evidence calling out the law and they said f you f you man that one guy His name was like Aaron van Langeveld was one of the most feckless and pathetic people I've ever had to listen to It's like you had a guy say like under this section of the law It says for any reason necessary you can call an adjournment like you can adjourn the meeting and he goes well I can't just make something up and they're like if you can't Certify, which is defined as determining if something is true, then you can call for an adjournment until they sort out these errors.

00:11:12.000 And he goes, I just don't think that's in the law anywhere.

00:11:15.000 Sorry.

00:11:15.000 And it was like, he said it like 10 times.

00:11:17.000 And I'm like, dude, you like, it was so obvious that he was doing everything in his power to guarantee this for Joe Biden.

00:11:24.000 And you had people like one guy called in and rattled off a ton of crazy evidence, affidavits, you know, sworn statements, statistical anomalies.

00:11:33.000 The things people had seen and the unbalanced books, for instance, 70 whatever percent, you know, signatures didn't match how many votes were cast.

00:11:41.000 People who had said that they didn't request absentee ballots, but absentee ballots got sent to him anyway, things like that.

00:11:47.000 And this guy goes, well, you know, I don't know, I guess, you know, whatever.

00:11:49.000 I have no choice, you know, sorry.

00:11:51.000 It's like, you wouldn't exist unless you had a choice.

00:11:54.000 Like, why would you even be in that position?

00:11:55.000 You're there for a reason to certify, or you can say, I can't certify this because the books are unbalanced.

00:12:00.000 One explanation for that is that he was trying to advance the ball for Biden.

00:12:04.000 Another explanation is that he was so soft and scared and incapable of making a principled decision or making a hard decision or taking action or anything like that.

00:12:13.000 I don't think he was trying to advance it for Biden.

00:12:15.000 I think he's just scared.

00:12:17.000 He's a terrified, weak little man.

00:12:19.000 This is the crisis. 0.66

00:12:20.000 The crisis of weak men.

00:12:22.000 So when you hear that the Wayne County Board of Canvassers Some guy goes on the Zoom call and says, your kids probably go to this school.

00:12:30.000 And they immediately certify.

00:12:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:33.000 So this guy, who is, you know, should not be in a leadership position, he sees that and he immediately says, I have to, I have to, I have no choice.

00:12:40.000 And the reason he was saying that was because he doesn't want Republicans getting mad at him.

00:12:43.000 But guess what?

00:12:44.000 Time and time again, I'll tell you this.

00:12:45.000 It's because Republicans will do nothing.

00:12:49.000 Conservatives, nothing.

00:12:51.000 You mean in terms of like fighting aggressively or?

00:12:54.000 So Antifa breaks the rules and gets away with it. Yep. 100% And the only like the only thing comparable is probably the

00:13:01.000 Proud Boys and they typically are defensive They'll show up and do a rally and then Antifa attacks them

00:13:06.000 and then they'll fight back But Antifa is aggressive and they get away with it. It's

00:13:10.000 overt terrorism. It's low-tier terror It's not like they're showing up with, you know, with like, you know, AKs and mowing down, you know, kids or anything like that.

00:13:18.000 But they're saying... Just picking off Trump supporters one by one on the streets of Portland.

00:13:22.000 It has happened.

00:13:23.000 But here's the thing.

00:13:25.000 You want to stay under the radar.

00:13:26.000 You can't do high-profile attacks like that, like Reinold did.

00:13:30.000 So what you do is you just put on a mask and you club people.

00:13:33.000 And then eventually people get scared.

00:13:35.000 But cancel culture was the first start. 0.83

00:13:37.000 That was them saying comply or else. 0.71

00:13:39.000 We will destroy you.

00:13:41.000 And I'll tell you one of the biggest problems. 1.00

00:13:43.000 I would say it would seem that there's probably like, I don't know, four or five percent of Trump supporters who are cowards.

00:13:50.000 They're smart enough to know they need to vote for him, but they were too terrified of what the left would do to him to speak out and evangelize on his behalf.

00:13:56.000 So I said this about all these celebrities who I know support Trump but refuse to speak up because they're like, I'll lose my job.

00:14:02.000 And I'm like, you will wake up one day with a Joe Biden presidency and everything you hold dear being stripped away.

00:14:08.000 And you'll say, I wish I had spoken up sooner because I had a lot of influence and I could have used it.

00:14:11.000 Bro, you are preaching to the choir on this one, my friend.

00:14:14.000 I have arrows in my back from being out front.

00:14:17.000 People have been free riding on my willingness to go out there personally and stump for Trump and advocate for him and say he's the best choice that we had as far back as 2016.

00:14:27.000 Obviously, Democrats are the poor people who transition everything.

00:14:29.000 They destroyed your career.

00:14:31.000 They tried hurting your family.

00:14:32.000 They did.

00:14:33.000 They hurt me.

00:14:34.000 They got me fired and doxxed and slandered and all kinds of horrible things.

00:14:39.000 And yet, you know, I persist and I look around at people who I know feel the same way, but don't speak up.

00:14:45.000 And I'm like, I'm out here.

00:14:46.000 I'm out here.

00:14:47.000 I'm a lightning rod.

00:14:47.000 I'll say this from now on, if anyone ever, whenever I'm ever going to bring up not being scared and speaking up, I'm just going to say, be like Jack Murphy, because people always say, Tim, you don't have a family.

00:14:57.000 You don't know what it's like.

00:14:58.000 It's like, all right, well then ask Jack.

00:15:00.000 Because you, you stuck your neck out.

00:15:01.000 You were speaking out.

00:15:02.000 They came for your family and you pushed twice as hard after the fact.

00:15:04.000 Indeed.

00:15:05.000 You weaponized it.

00:15:06.000 I had to, you know, this energy came at me.

00:15:09.000 It was negative energy.

00:15:10.000 It was this terrorism, info terror, like, uh, character assassination, et cetera.

00:15:14.000 And they came after me and I jujitsu around into something positive.

00:15:19.000 There was, you know, it was an opportunity.

00:15:20.000 I mean, when you see the world in terms of opportunity and energy and you see it all coming at you and you have a chance to turn it around into something good, you know, I seized on it.

00:15:28.000 And plus living well is the best revenge.

00:15:32.000 There's no question about that.

00:15:34.000 So think about this guy, this Michigan State, on the State Board of Canvassers, who was, no matter what was said to him, citing the law, citing evidence, he said, well, you know, I have no choice.

00:15:46.000 One guy said, if that's the case, then why are you here?

00:15:48.000 I'm not a rubber stamp for the governor.

00:15:50.000 We can hand the files to him.

00:15:51.000 You exist for a reason.

00:15:53.000 In fact, they had the opportunity to vote.

00:15:56.000 Like, they literally counted the vote.

00:15:57.000 Three to zero, with one abstaining.

00:15:59.000 It's like, so you could have literally voted no.

00:16:02.000 But this guy wouldn't, and it's really simple why.

00:16:04.000 I've been saying this for quite some time.

00:16:06.000 So you're familiar with Sargon Avocado, right?

00:16:08.000 Indeed.

00:16:09.000 I saw that whole thing just happen recently.

00:16:11.000 Go ahead.

00:16:11.000 No, I don't know.

00:16:12.000 What happened?

00:16:13.000 Something happened?

00:16:13.000 Maybe I have it mixed up.

00:16:14.000 Well, anyway, he's got a new podcast called The Lotus Eaters, by the way.

00:16:18.000 So shout out Sargon.

00:16:19.000 But I use him as a really good example because he is like the most mild-mannered, offensive guy, you know, that like the social media age has wrought.

00:16:27.000 And here's the example.

00:16:31.000 If Twitter started banning a bunch of people and a bunch of crazy stuff happened, do you think Sargon of Akkad is going to lead a group of liberalists, men, you know, with fedoras and beards down to Twitter HQ with pitchforks and torches to smash and destroy everything?

00:16:46.000 No, of course not!

00:16:48.000 No!

00:16:48.000 He's sitting in his nice little fancy room with his British accent, you know, giving arguments.

00:16:53.000 If they started going after the left, do you think the left would show up with pitchforks, torches, and bricks?

00:16:58.000 No, but I do have a- No, the answer is yes.

00:17:00.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:17:00.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:01.000 Yes.

00:17:01.000 They've done it.

00:17:01.000 Absolutely.

00:17:02.000 They literally have done it.

00:17:03.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

00:17:03.000 I had a counterpoint in my head to be an argumentative jerk about it. 0.99

00:17:07.000 Laura Loomer, she did show up down at Twitter. 0.97

00:17:10.000 It's not exactly pitchforks.

00:17:11.000 But is anybody scared of her?

00:17:13.000 She handcuffed her hand to the door.

00:17:16.000 And she got press for it.

00:17:17.000 It's probably, I mean, honestly, she is one of the best activists, or the best, the right has.

00:17:25.000 And you don't gotta agree with her.

00:17:26.000 I think she said ridiculously bombastic things and offensive things, and you don't gotta agree.

00:17:29.000 The point I'm making is, she always knows how to dominate headlines. 1.00

00:17:33.000 And she does it in such a way that's like, nobody's getting hurt.

00:17:36.000 Handcuffing herself to Twitter's door.

00:17:38.000 Like, that's just regular old civil disobedience, and it works.

00:17:41.000 So here's what happens.

00:17:42.000 This guy, Aaron, you know, he's, uh, you know, a sad, scared little man who, you know, he shouldn't be in a leadership position if you can't handle the heat.

00:17:52.000 You know, it's the Sword of Damocles.

00:17:53.000 You want to sit in that chair, the sword sits above you.

00:17:55.000 How do you even get to that spot?

00:17:57.000 Is it just some appointment?

00:17:58.000 Has he voted in?

00:18:00.000 The problem is, we don't have leaders anymore.

00:18:03.000 We have very, very few, I should say.

00:18:05.000 And so what happens is, here's a guy sitting there, and he sees what happens.

00:18:10.000 When the Democrat state board, when the two Democrats said, we are going to certify, did Republicans announce where their children lived and threaten them?

00:18:19.000 The answer is no.

00:18:20.000 No, no.

00:18:21.000 Where are you going with this critique?

00:18:23.000 That the left is violent?

00:18:26.000 Terroristic?

00:18:27.000 Like Antifa types?

00:18:28.000 I mean, these are like regular Democrats in the community saying, your kids go to school here.

00:18:34.000 No, it's a perfectly normal thing on the left to say all kinds of stuff like that.

00:18:37.000 And they know that when they say that, Antifa is the cudgel who will show up and act, and they'll say it's, what is it called, stochastic terrorism?

00:18:45.000 Yeah.

00:18:46.000 They know that they can say, don't your kids go to this school?

00:18:49.000 And then they'll say, now all I have to do is sit back and wait for Antifa to show up.

00:18:53.000 Because they'll do it, I don't gotta tell them.

00:18:55.000 So this guy's terrified.

00:18:57.000 He's absolutely terrified.

00:18:58.000 The other guy abstained.

00:18:59.000 He didn't even say no.

00:19:00.000 These people are spineless. 0.77

00:19:02.000 So you have aggressive, angry, violent, deceitful leftists, and you have scared conservatives saying, just please leave me alone.

00:19:11.000 Right. 0.89

00:19:11.000 And I agree with you that ineffective, wimpy guys like that or leaders of any kind shouldn't be there. 0.89

00:19:17.000 We need stronger leaders. 0.58

00:19:18.000 We need masculine energy. 1.00

00:19:19.000 We need all kinds of new force.

00:19:22.000 However, I just want to make sure I understand this.

00:19:25.000 The left has played dirty.

00:19:27.000 Are you suggesting the right should play strong or play dirty too?

00:19:31.000 They gotta be smarter.

00:19:32.000 They gotta be smarter.

00:19:34.000 So look, you know, I play, I've grown up playing strategy games.

00:19:37.000 And what the left is doing is aggro.

00:19:39.000 Their strategy is hard, hard and fast. 0.98

00:19:42.000 Strike them, hit them low, hit them fast, get it done. 0.98

00:19:45.000 The Republicans got to play control better. 0.99

00:19:47.000 They have to understand you know exactly what they're going to do.

00:19:52.000 They're going to make threats.

00:19:53.000 They're going to come for your family.

00:19:55.000 You need to know their move before they do it.

00:19:58.000 And so that, like, you know, Bruce Lee, move like water.

00:20:00.000 When they come at you, spin around, flip it on them.

00:20:03.000 Turn the energy back on them.

00:20:05.000 You did.

00:20:06.000 Yes.

00:20:06.000 That's exactly what you did.

00:20:07.000 Yes.

00:20:07.000 They came at you and they made you 10 times stronger, a hundred times stronger.

00:20:10.000 Yes.

00:20:11.000 That was a mistake.

00:20:12.000 And counting.

00:20:12.000 That's what more people on the right need to be doing.

00:20:15.000 So it's not about playing dirty.

00:20:17.000 It's about, you know, I'm reminded of this episode of Frasier.

00:20:21.000 Ever watch Frasier?

00:20:22.000 I sure did.

00:20:23.000 I watched Cheers and then Frasier.

00:20:24.000 All right, so there's an episode where I guess Frasier is having a bad day, and he has his normal table at the coffee shop, and he's got his coffee sitting down.

00:20:33.000 He goes up to grab some creamer or something, and a guy sits in his chair.

00:20:36.000 And he gets angry, and he says, Sir, this is my seat.

00:20:38.000 And the guy tells him to F off.

00:20:39.000 So Frasier just says, I'm having a bad day.

00:20:42.000 I'm not having it.

00:20:42.000 Picks the guy up and throws him.

00:20:44.000 So eventually this guy sues him, knowing he's like a radio host, he's got money, and, uh, you know, Fraser can't do anything about it.

00:20:50.000 So eventually they end up meeting back at the coffee shop, and then Niles gets in his face, and then, you know, starts pressuring him and insulting him, and then the guy says, back off, man, and pokes his chest, and then Niles goes, whoa!

00:21:04.000 And falls over and slams onto the floor.

00:21:07.000 And then he goes, countersuit, countersuit!

00:21:09.000 And then the guy backs off and says, okay, I give up.

00:21:12.000 So the joke was, and he was like, I didn't do anything to him.

00:21:15.000 He's like, well, we all watched you touch him.

00:21:17.000 You know, that's it.

00:21:17.000 You're going to get sued.

00:21:19.000 Niles got the suit shut down by playing the same game that the guy was playing.

00:21:23.000 So I'm not saying, like, definitely not.

00:21:26.000 Republicans should not be going out and doing Antifa stuff.

00:21:28.000 Antifa shouldn't be doing that either.

00:21:29.000 But what do you do if you know the DA will cut these people loose?

00:21:33.000 Boom, like that.

00:21:35.000 Because they got they got elected in the first place Well, they have a whole infrastructure you and I talked

00:21:39.000 about this many times and I take I take extra special pleasure now in documenting

00:21:44.000 Legal defense fund folks. Oh, yeah when they're out there in the protests copying down

00:21:48.000 officers badge numbers and giving out bail numbers and helping people get out of jail and

00:21:53.000 As you said not being there to observe both parties, but actually there as an advocate for Antifa. Yep

00:21:59.000 They have a whole network that encourages them.

00:22:02.000 They get out of jail.

00:22:03.000 They're not prosecuted.

00:22:04.000 It's a whole system.

00:22:05.000 We don't have that system because we adhere to the system of rule of law and we expect that if you destroy property or federal property you're going to go away to federal prison.

00:22:14.000 So what do you do if you're playing Monopoly, and the person across the table, every so often you see him swipe a hundred from the bank, and you go, dude, I saw you do that!

00:22:23.000 And you'd be like, what are you talking about?

00:22:25.000 No, I'm not just talking about it.

00:22:26.000 I'm allowed, I'm the banker.

00:22:27.000 Eventually, do you stop playing?

00:22:29.000 I mean, you're putting me in a tough spot, Tim, because I'm the kind of guy that would either confront or just completely ignore.

00:22:35.000 Flip the table.

00:22:36.000 Just, you know, I like to pick my moments of aggression like that, and sometimes it's just not worth it, but The alternative here of just like getting up and walking away from the board game, that's easy.

00:22:47.000 I can do that.

00:22:48.000 I can be like, dude, I want to hang out with you anymore.

00:22:50.000 I'm not going to play this game anymore.

00:22:51.000 I'm out.

00:22:52.000 And then just leave.

00:22:53.000 We do not have that luxury.

00:22:55.000 No, that exists in the real world, and that's the scary.

00:23:01.000 That's the hitting the ground moment.

00:23:03.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:23:04.000 We're at a point where we've seen the evidence.

00:23:07.000 There is so much evidence of, first, irregularity.

00:23:12.000 Because fraud, we've got to figure out who did it, and is it definitive?

00:23:16.000 So following Matt Brainerd of the Voter Integrity Fund, He recently put out a database, like screenshots of people all using the same commercial address as their residential address.

00:23:28.000 Some of them even post offices.

00:23:30.000 Yeah.

00:23:31.000 So, so the response to that was that they were, they were using their mailing address as their residential address.

00:23:37.000 So that could be a mistake.

00:23:39.000 Right.

00:23:40.000 But some of these addresses were just like, one of them I think was, uh, like a shopping mall or something like, okay.

00:23:47.000 And the, and the difference is they say apartment on them.

00:23:50.000 So if you're going to, if you're going to use the same address and then call it apartment number to make it seem like it's a real residence, that that's fraud, that's evidence of fraud outright.

00:23:59.000 One of the things that he pointed out that struck me was that in, I think, Wisconsin, I believe there is a particular clause that says if you are indefinitely confined, you can get an absentee ballot and not have to show ID.

00:24:11.000 And it's like some... 169,000 people indefinitely confined.

00:24:15.000 Right.

00:24:16.000 In previous years, it had been some tiny fraction of that.

00:24:20.000 In 2018, I think it was like 16,000.

00:24:22.000 And he specifically noted that Corona was not an indefinite confinement.

00:24:26.000 So that's one area where you don't need to use an ID.

00:24:30.000 So, of course, that's a perfect vector for cheating.

00:24:33.000 The best evidence so far of fraud, in my opinion, was that people put bunk addresses.

00:24:38.000 If you take an address for a Dairy Queen and then put apartment number on it, Yeah, we know what you're doing.

00:24:44.000 That's fraudulent.

00:24:45.000 I'm saying some of them were even in the post office.

00:24:48.000 Well, but the argument there is that... Wait, you have like a PO box?

00:24:51.000 Yeah, so their mailing address was incorrectly listed as their residential address.

00:24:55.000 Mmm, I see.

00:24:56.000 I'm not saying it's definitively true, that's what happened, but you can explain it away.

00:25:00.000 You can't explain away someone listing a shopping mall as their residence.

00:25:05.000 Right, right.

00:25:06.000 And what is like a thousand of them all with the same address going down with unit number,

00:25:11.000 apartment number, you know, just like different ways to qualify like this is actually, it's

00:25:16.000 not a residence.

00:25:17.000 So there clearly is evidence of fraud.

00:25:20.000 Now it's not definitive proof.

00:25:22.000 It could be very simple at this one shopping mall, somebody has a mailbox or something

00:25:26.000 And then again, confused their mailing address.

00:25:29.000 Someone pointed out that you actually, like in some instances you can put your mailing address as your residence on some form or something that maybe got mixed up.

00:25:36.000 But you can explain it.

00:25:37.000 But the point is, we have all of this evidence.

00:25:40.000 And going back to the hitting the ground moment.

00:25:42.000 The fact that Republicans held a hearing at a Wyndham means the split has happened.

00:25:47.000 Right.

00:25:47.000 Why aren't they having that meeting in an official government building?

00:25:50.000 Right.

00:25:50.000 Because they're now operating parallel to the government.

00:25:53.000 Don't say it, Tim.

00:25:54.000 Why not?

00:25:55.000 It's true.

00:25:56.000 The beginning of the shadow.

00:25:58.000 Well, CNN ran a segment where this deranged guy said Trump's going to form a shadow government.

00:26:03.000 I wouldn't call it a shadow government, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump says, if you support me and you believe me to be your president, I will be leading a movement.

00:26:13.000 He could.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 And it could operate within the confines of the law, but it could have powerful and massive impacts across the country.

00:26:20.000 People have accused Obama of running a shadow government, shadow presidency this whole time, living but merely a mile away from the White House in Colorado and Washington, D.C.

00:26:30.000 near Bezos.

00:26:31.000 Bezos, who bought a museum, dude, he bought a museum and turned it into his private residence in downtown Washington.

00:26:38.000 If we have to have hearings at Wyndham hotels, because we can't have them in actual legal buildings with legitimate legal proceedings, then it shows you that people are no longer confident in one unified system.

00:26:53.000 The government exists based on one thing, confidence.

00:26:55.000 That people think, in their minds, the machine exists and the machine will churn along.

00:27:00.000 You start to realize then, when you see a judge and PA, issue ridiculous rulings or you start to hear the state cannabis guy in michigan repeatedly just say i can't do it even though we got the law in front of him saying he literally can and it's like dude you're lying why are you like you literally can the guy read you the law three times desperately trying to say i can't

00:27:20.000 Felony, arson, felony, assault, assault with a deadly weapon, murder.

00:27:24.000 We have seen Antifa get away with smashing things up and destroying things and burning

00:27:28.000 things. 0.97

00:27:29.000 Black Lives Matter rioters. 0.99

00:27:30.000 Felony arson, felony assault, assault with a deadly weapon, murder. 0.99

00:27:34.000 And so...

00:27:35.000 It's not sugarcoated.

00:27:36.000 Well, but some...

00:27:37.000 The people, the most violent people did get arrested and, you know, charged.

00:27:40.000 In that regard, yeah.

00:27:40.000 But we had, what, thousands of people across the country who were arrested and released immediately?

00:27:46.000 Hundreds in Chicago, hundreds in New York, in Dallas-Fort Worth, who had their charges dropped.

00:27:51.000 Misdemeanor charges.

00:27:53.000 So then what's the point of the law if these people can go out and smash things and get away with it?

00:27:56.000 What's the point of the law if Antifa can literally organize terroristic events on Twitter with no repercussion?

00:28:03.000 And they've been doing it non-stop for a year.

00:28:06.000 At a certain point Republicans are going to say the law doesn't actually mean anything because it doesn't get enforced.

00:28:11.000 Then they're going to show up to a Wyndham hotel to have their hearing on voter fraud because they are rallying among themselves saying, we know this is true and it doesn't matter if the official building or the Democrats think it is or isn't.

00:28:24.000 So at a certain point, There's not necessarily a shadow government, but I've been saying this for quite some time with the censorship.

00:28:31.000 They are pushing to create parallel economies by stripping people away of their financial institutions and communications.

00:28:38.000 So now we have parallel social media growing faster than ever.

00:28:41.000 Parler, over 10 million users now.

00:28:43.000 You have, like I mentioned, hearing in a hotel, like an official proceeding.

00:28:47.000 It looked like it was like it was a Senate hearing.

00:28:50.000 But they were doing it in a hotel, which is crazy.

00:28:52.000 And you have CNN worried about Trump forming a shadow government.

00:28:55.000 But there are people who say legitimately Trump won and we know it, and they're not... You had Rhodes of the Oath Keepers say that he believes Trump supporters, half the country, will not regard anything out of Obama's... I'm sorry, anything out of Biden's mouth as legitimate.

00:29:11.000 So it's like the fracture has happened.

00:29:13.000 We smack the ground, boom, it's done.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, these parallel circumstances, economies, information markets, networks, associations, these are all happening.

00:29:23.000 This is all part of the trend of decentralization and streets of strategic disconnection.

00:29:28.000 Instead of us all being in the same thing with no borders and no boundaries and totally connected to everyone everywhere at all times.

00:29:34.000 We are going to start retreating.

00:29:35.000 Some of it's deliberate in an offensive way from the other side to silence us or separate us from the mainstream or whatever the case.

00:29:42.000 But some of it is coming from our side too.

00:29:44.000 Some of it is just a natural phenomenon at this point where you want to erect a barrier.

00:29:49.000 You want to have a wall between yourself and the people you care about and the people that you don't know and that you don't have the same level of care for.

00:29:55.000 People who might have it out for you.

00:29:57.000 And eventually we're going to have not just parallel financial systems or economies or labor markets, but decentralized and just, it's just sort of all the big mix, but they're all connected in their own unique ways.

00:30:10.000 And it really is the future of work.

00:30:11.000 It's the future of communication, of finance, where people are going to come together and build their own networks where they can live, work and play.

00:30:18.000 And this is, you know, this is not, this is sort of a longer term vision here.

00:30:21.000 But that's, that's going to lead to widespread violence.

00:30:21.000 Yeah.

00:30:25.000 If we're talking about Trump supporters... I was talking about a little bit of a different thing than you were talking about, but I hear what you're saying.

00:30:31.000 If Republicans and Trump supporters right now no longer have confidence in the elections, in the government, in the system, and they're going to start doing their own thing, and they probably will, So, like, one of the things I said a month or two ago when someone asked me, like, what do you think it's gonna look like if we do see some kind of civil war?

00:30:48.000 I said, it's gonna be a bunch of right-wing dudes in the middle of nowhere just basically saying, we no longer care about what the law is.

00:30:54.000 Like, if they pass a law on gun control saying, turning your guns, they're gonna be like, who are you talking to?

00:30:58.000 Yeah, forget it.

00:30:59.000 Yeah.

00:31:00.000 And we saw seeds of that starting in the spring, in the winter, in January, in Richmond, in Virginia, when the governor and the legislature, they were looking to pass very restrictive gun laws.

00:31:11.000 Many counties said that they wouldn't have forced the laws and they were joining together in resistance.

00:31:16.000 There was just a huge protest where a bunch of armed dudes were walking around.

00:31:20.000 I'm not sure if it was Virginia or D.C.

00:31:21.000 I think it was D.C.

00:31:22.000 Couldn't have been D.C.

00:31:23.000 No, that was the point.

00:31:25.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:31:25.000 Oh, really?

00:31:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:27.000 Ford Fisher was covering it.

00:31:28.000 I think it was D.C.

00:31:29.000 I could be wrong, but he was basically like, these guys are violating in large numbers gun control laws.

00:31:35.000 We'll see what happens.

00:31:36.000 Oh.

00:31:37.000 I didn't hear about that.

00:31:38.000 I'm gonna have to look that up.

00:31:39.000 If there's a gang of armed dudes walking through the streets of D.C., all felony possession, boom.

00:31:43.000 Yep.

00:31:43.000 I can't believe that they didn't get scooped up.

00:31:45.000 It may have been Virginia.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, that would make more sense to me.

00:31:49.000 So Ford reported it?

00:31:50.000 Yeah, Ford was reporting it.

00:31:52.000 But it was a while ago.

00:31:52.000 It was like a week or two ago.

00:31:54.000 OK.

00:31:55.000 So I don't know.

00:31:56.000 Just see if you can Google it.

00:31:57.000 It's going to be opt out.

00:31:58.000 It's already happening.

00:31:59.000 Think about if you are a Democrat in Montgomery County, Maryland, and you don't believe that we should have restrictive immigration.

00:32:07.000 And your county says basically, hey, if you show up here, we'll give you services.

00:32:12.000 We'll take care of you.

00:32:13.000 You get a driver's license.

00:32:14.000 And if we arrest you, even for a violent crime, we won't engage with the federal immigration authorities, whatever.

00:32:20.000 So they started this a long time ago.

00:32:22.000 People have been ignoring the government, I think, since and even before it was incepted.

00:32:28.000 So that was one thing I wanted to step back a second and just be like, look, remember 2016, all those all those Democrats were like, You should engage electoral college and change the vote and whatever.

00:32:39.000 And they're saying that, you know, it's also there's a video of a bunch of celebrities saying you will be a hero electoral college if you vote your conscience and do not elect Donald Trump.

00:32:48.000 Right.

00:32:49.000 Amazing.

00:32:49.000 What are they saying today?

00:32:50.000 Well, they're saying the exact opposite.

00:32:52.000 And if you suggest that you're a terrorist and a rebel and whatever.

00:32:55.000 But my point in bringing that up is.

00:32:57.000 How much of these feelings that we're having, the sense of disintegration, or I won't respect him, not my president, and all that, or ignoring federal laws, how much of that is really new?

00:33:09.000 That's what I want to know.

00:33:11.000 Sanctuary cities have been a thing for a long time.

00:33:13.000 Civil disobedience has been a thing for a long time.

00:33:15.000 Ignoring federal guidelines and laws and regulations has been a thing for a long time.

00:33:18.000 State Republicans having hearings in Wyndham hotels?

00:33:23.000 This is a pretty good example.

00:33:25.000 Decriminalization and legalization of cannabis on a state level, even though it's federally prohibited.

00:33:30.000 That's a great example of states ignoring the federal government, disregarding the law, and saying, screw you, we're going to do what we want.

00:33:36.000 That's different though.

00:33:37.000 Why?

00:33:37.000 I think it's the same thing.

00:33:39.000 When a state says, we want, we are a sovereign state, you know, and we've decided, there was a big wave of states declaring sovereignty, you know, I think it was like 12 years ago or so.

00:33:49.000 That's, the states always have their own laws and, you know, and they can, there's a lot of laws that don't, you know, work with federal laws.

00:33:55.000 It's different when you have two overarching cultures with 70 plus million on each side, for the most part.

00:34:02.000 Not every single person who voted for Biden or against Trump or for Trump are, you know, super politically active.

00:34:07.000 There's probably a lot of people who are just like Democrat and, you know, Republican.

00:34:10.000 Well, let me just say thematically then, it's the same in that disregarding the authority of the federal government, deciding to do what you think is right and not accepting it as legitimate what's coming from Washington, D.C.

00:34:23.000 That's on theme.

00:34:24.000 Those roads have already been traveled.

00:34:27.000 Will we see more of that?

00:34:28.000 Probably.

00:34:29.000 I don't think so.

00:34:31.000 I think sanctuary laws are like a legal challenge, where the people in the state, like, they agree and they vote for something, and then the feds challenge them and there's a lawsuit, and then the feds ultimately back off.

00:34:42.000 Right.

00:34:42.000 And then that's it.

00:34:44.000 You don't get cooperation.

00:34:45.000 It's different when you have, in the state, in the same areas, two different factions of people, completely at odds with each other, doing different things, as though there's a different government, or a different system for, um... So would you take the Monopoly board and just flip it over, and fling everything everywhere, and say, we gotta start over and get a whole new game, or are you gonna get up and walk away, or are you gonna punch the guy in the face?

00:35:08.000 What are you gonna do, Tim?

00:35:09.000 Man, uh, walk away.

00:35:12.000 But therein lies the serious problem of what does it mean to walk away in this analogy.

00:35:19.000 I got a house out in the middle of nowhere, and I'm doing my own thing, and the lockdowns are getting... Bro, we're well beyond the point of these dystopian novels.

00:35:33.000 Maryland announced they're launching compliance units that are going to patrol Thanksgiving looking for cars that could indicate someone's having family over.

00:35:41.000 Compliance units.

00:35:43.000 I mean, that's as absurd as I saw a joke about, like, banning turkeys over 12 pounds or something like that.

00:35:49.000 Yeah, yeah, it was Newsome.

00:35:50.000 Like, no 10-pound turkeys.

00:35:52.000 No, that was a joke.

00:35:52.000 That was a joke.

00:35:53.000 Oh, that was a joke?

00:35:54.000 Oh, I'm pretty sure it was a joke.

00:35:56.000 Somebody brought it up.

00:35:56.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:35:57.000 But did you see the thing they said about no live music?

00:36:00.000 What does that have to do with COVID?

00:36:01.000 Well, not to be the party pooper on that one, but loud music does induce people to speak more loudly and enunciate more clearly, which is, which is why, which, which, which I really, they're not, you don't, you're not allowed to play music at restaurants.

00:36:14.000 And I was like, what, what is that about?

00:36:16.000 And they're like, the volume has to be low so that you don't yell.

00:36:19.000 So you don't spit all over everybody.

00:36:21.000 I kind of get it.

00:36:22.000 Which actually is one of the ones that only ones that really make any sense to me.

00:36:26.000 Yeah, but they also said no alcohol.

00:36:28.000 That's fine.

00:36:29.000 Yeah, everyone will follow that definitely and but you know, I'm seeing some pushback man I'm seeing some pushback I've seen in my local jurisdictions parents getting together and in agreeing that their kids should be playing little league that their kids should be playing baseball They should be doing crew.

00:36:46.000 They should be playing tennis That they should have group practices and they should try to find events.

00:36:51.000 People are tired.

00:36:52.000 They're understanding the damage that's being done to them and their kids and their development and their social development.

00:36:58.000 That's kind of interesting to me because I looked up the word feckless because I didn't really know what it meant.

00:37:02.000 And the root word of feckless is irresponsibility.

00:37:05.000 And I think that parents who are looking for ways to get their kids out of lockdown sadness are being responsible.

00:37:10.000 I agree with that.

00:37:11.000 People who are looking for ways to make positive change are being responsible.

00:37:14.000 I agree.

00:37:14.000 People like this guy who didn't certify are irresponsible.

00:37:17.000 I have the tweet from Ford Fisher.

00:37:19.000 Fisher. He says today Boogaloo boy Mike Dunn led militia activists on an armed march in

00:37:23.000 laps around the Capitol in Richmond, Virginia, where it's illegal to carry guns at protests

00:37:28.000 and it's illegal to carry 20 plus 20 plus round mags.

00:37:32.000 Police stood back and did not intervene as the group defied both laws. Wow. This is a

00:37:38.000 large group of people and they're carrying lots of weapons. Yeah. In violation of the law.

00:37:44.000 And it's Richmond, Virginia, it's not D.C.

00:37:46.000 He says, he's got another follow-up, he says, police monitored the area, many carrying long rifles themselves, but did not intervene as the Boogaloo Boys marched by them, as well as signs reading, firearms prohibited beyond this point.

00:37:56.000 Other than pleasantries like good morning, police didn't really speak to them.

00:37:59.000 In fact, in the beginning of his video, you can see a sign that says notice and there's a picture of a handgun in a red circle with a line through it.

00:38:06.000 So there have been protests before.

00:38:09.000 There's been widespread civil disobedience before.

00:38:12.000 But has that been combined with widespread factional violence and 70 plus million people believe in the election?

00:38:19.000 Or I should say, to be fair, based on the polling we've seen, it's around 80% of Trump's voters in various polls, 80% more than one poll said this, do not believe the election was free and fair.

00:38:29.000 So we're looking at something like 65 million people or so, 66 million people who think that the election was rigged.

00:38:39.000 How many Americans do you think have ever seen a baseball game where they knew the other side was cheating and they just thought to themselves, sort of like, well, you know, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

00:38:54.000 That's a saying.

00:38:56.000 That's a thing.

00:38:57.000 Americans, they fight hard.

00:38:59.000 Yeah.

00:38:59.000 So how much, is there a chance that if, if they go through all of the legal process and everything is exhausted at the end of the day, whatever the final arbitration is, it's like for Biden, you don't think some of that 80% is just gonna be like, well, we'll get them next time.

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 I think that's very, very likely.

00:39:22.000 It's conservatives.

00:39:24.000 I mean, it's conservatives saying, well, they're cheating and we know they're cheating, but you know, whatever.

00:39:28.000 So I'm trying to combine the fecklessness you're describing with this anticipatory conflict that you're thinking about, that we've gone off the precipice and we're shattered.

00:39:38.000 I'm not saying that whatever's happening is going to, in the immediate result, in marching armies or anything like that, or the Republicans arming up and saying, No confidence in the government or whatever.

00:39:51.000 I'm saying they literally are already having public hearings outside of government.

00:39:55.000 Whatever that means.

00:39:56.000 I don't know, but they're doing it.

00:39:57.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 And it wasn't like they said, you know, this is the official offsite location.

00:40:03.000 Like when they moved the White House, you know, to the other buildings.

00:40:07.000 I wish I could remember the name of that octagon.

00:40:09.000 Mar-a-Lago.

00:40:09.000 Winter White House.

00:40:10.000 I'm talking about in like 1800s, man.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, but just a temporary location.

00:40:14.000 They didn't announce anything like that.

00:40:15.000 It was just really just a dog and pony show where people with credible, credible people came and gave their testimony, but not even testimony.

00:40:25.000 They're just sort of So that's the other thing I was saying early on, that perhaps what they were doing is just trying to calm down the Hulk.

00:40:31.000 They were like, we need to make sure that Republicans grumble and go home and do nothing.

00:40:37.000 So we're going to give them their hearing.

00:40:39.000 You're not giving them a hearing in an actual building, are you?

00:40:41.000 Fine, we'll do it at the Wyndham, I guess.

00:40:43.000 Then they'll feel like we actually listened to them.

00:40:46.000 The Republicans are, like, right now, in my opinion, in Pennsylvania, look at this, they're the ones who passed Act 77, which created the universal, the no-excuse mail-in voting system, which, according to the lawsuit, that's actually gotten, you know, that's gotten the certification frozen, unconstitutional.

00:41:03.000 It was Republicans who passed that.

00:41:05.000 Now in Pennsylvania, the Republicans are holding these like, you know, it reminds me of that joke where they said, both the left and the right have said this about Biden or Trump, make a fake White House, put, you know, candidate in it, and then film a reality show where they think they're president.

00:41:20.000 So, they're like, let's set up a hearing, we'll do it at a hotel, it won't be official, but we'll convince the Republicans we're actually looking out for them.

00:41:27.000 And, you know.

00:41:29.000 I don't know Pennsylvania politics so well, but were the people, those Republicans, were they the old-line establishment types, the neocon types, were they?

00:41:39.000 Not MAGA, obviously.

00:41:40.000 I just wonder how that went down.

00:41:43.000 But you've mentioned a few times a challenge that you think has some legs, right?

00:41:47.000 The unequal treatment of the ballots and the voting process and the cure periods and things like that.

00:41:52.000 So this is the crazy thing.

00:41:54.000 The judges and PA are basically saying, burn the whole thing down.

00:41:57.000 We don't care.

00:41:57.000 And it's almost like the rulings they're giving are them looking you in the eyes and saying, no, it's totally fair what we're doing.

00:42:08.000 And then you're like, what?

00:42:09.000 Like, these rulings are just, like, I can't remember the specific case that I said the other day.

00:42:16.000 You have to watch the other episode.

00:42:17.000 But it's basically like, we've deemed that this lawsuit is true and correct, and this is unconstitutional, but we're gonna allow it, and then, you know, we'll call on the legislature in the future to do something about it.

00:42:30.000 So it's like, you know that it was bunk and something was bad, and you're gonna let it stand.

00:42:36.000 So what happens when the judge said, he said to Giuliani, what do you expect me to do?

00:42:41.000 Disenfranchise, you know, 7 million voters or whatever.

00:42:45.000 And Giuliani, I guess he was like, you know, we don't know where these votes came from.

00:42:49.000 In this case, the judges had, they had two choices.

00:42:54.000 If they agreed with Giuliani and said these 700,000 votes are hereby being disqualified at the fault of the Pennsylvania government for violating the election code.

00:43:06.000 Oh, now I remember exactly what they said.

00:43:08.000 You're gonna love this.

00:43:09.000 The judge said the election code states there must be observers witnessing the observers present to observe the ballot counting process, but it doesn't state a distance.

00:43:21.000 Therefore, as long as they're in the building, it's up to code.

00:43:25.000 No sane, rational person looked at the code and said, that's the point of the law.

00:43:30.000 We know why the law was passed as it was, because you want someone to observe the actual ballot.

00:43:35.000 The judge said, it doesn't say what distance.

00:43:38.000 100 feet back.

00:43:39.000 So when they sued saying we couldn't witness what was going on, the judge said, you were in the building, right?

00:43:45.000 Good enough.

00:43:46.000 That's the election code.

00:43:47.000 That is them laughing in your face when you know what the point of the law was and using a technicality Sorry!

00:43:54.000 It's true and fair!

00:43:56.000 And then laughing and high-fiving their friends.

00:44:00.000 I wonder if there's ever been a circumstance in which, on the right, people were, you know, pushing the pedal to the floor in this regard.

00:44:07.000 I imagine there has to have been all around history.

00:44:10.000 I mean, war.

00:44:10.000 George W. Bush, Iraq, Afghanistan.

00:44:13.000 Yeah.

00:44:14.000 Them being like, there's weapons, there's weapons, trust us, don't look, don't look behind the curtain.

00:44:17.000 And then the media lied and defended them.

00:44:19.000 So look, with the Democrats right now, you get the media lying and defending them.

00:44:22.000 And guess what the media lied and defended in 2003?

00:44:26.000 George W. Bush and the Republicans.

00:44:28.000 Right.

00:44:28.000 So it's the game is the political establishment is a well-oiled machine.

00:44:32.000 It's a big club and you ain't in it.

00:44:34.000 Do you actually think these people would allow the rabble to dictate the course of human events? 1.00

00:44:39.000 Absolutely not.

00:44:40.000 Right.

00:44:41.000 Donald Trump being the rabble and the rabble rouser and the leader of the rabble and the one that we launched into D.C.

00:44:47.000 to do the things that he did.

00:44:49.000 Some of them, at least.

00:44:51.000 I, I, I, I, I mentioned this before, but I remember being outside that building after Trump got elected and he comes in in the SUV and he's having a meeting with the old guard Republicans.

00:45:01.000 And the rumor was he basically told them to go F themselves.

00:45:04.000 He was the president and do whatever he wants.

00:45:05.000 And I'm sure the meeting went something like, now that you're president, here's the plan we have in place for what we want you to do.

00:45:11.000 And he said, no.

00:45:12.000 I'm the president.

00:45:13.000 We're going to get America back on track.

00:45:14.000 And they were like, trust us.

00:45:16.000 This is the plan.

00:45:16.000 He said, no, they went nuts.

00:45:18.000 The never Trumpers erupted.

00:45:19.000 A bunch of Republicans retired.

00:45:22.000 It was basically a president who says, here's what the people want.

00:45:26.000 I don't care what you want.

00:45:28.000 And then the intelligence agencies and the establishment elites, you know, we're all simultaneously drinking their tea and drop their glasses.

00:45:37.000 Oh my! 0.58

00:45:39.000 He's going to help the rebel?

00:45:41.000 And they didn't have anything on him like they had on the rest of them.

00:45:44.000 Cause it would have come out.

00:45:46.000 It would have come out and it didn't.

00:45:47.000 They tried. 0.98

00:45:48.000 They lied and they put up all these ridiculous accusations. 0.96

00:45:51.000 It didn't happen though.

00:45:53.000 Cause he was clean.

00:45:54.000 And they didn't, he wasn't in the club.

00:45:56.000 He wasn't supposed to win.

00:45:58.000 And he did.

00:45:58.000 They hadn't soiled him prior.

00:46:00.000 He wasn't like coming up the ranks and getting, He was supposed to visit Epstein Island before, you know, getting his opportunity.

00:46:05.000 I'm kidding, by the way, because I don't think Obama or, you know... This is a good time to bring up, maybe, the pardon today.

00:46:12.000 Oh, Michael Flynn.

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 This is scary.

00:46:14.000 This is scary stuff.

00:46:15.000 Why is it scary?

00:46:16.000 Not the pardon.

00:46:18.000 I think the pardon was the right move.

00:46:19.000 It's scary that Judge Sullivan... So I'll give you the quick context.

00:46:24.000 Michael Flynn was charged with lying to the FBI, but it was an informal meeting.

00:46:27.000 He wasn't actually in an official meeting under an official investigation, as far as he knew.

00:46:31.000 He's hanging out at the White House, and some guy asked him a question.

00:46:34.000 You ever talked to Kislyak?

00:46:35.000 And he was like, no.

00:46:36.000 And they're like, gotcha, you lied.

00:46:37.000 And they said, plead guilty, otherwise we're going after your son.

00:46:40.000 And so he said, okay.

00:46:42.000 Once Trump got control of things, he said, we're gonna drop this case.

00:46:46.000 The judge said, no.

00:46:48.000 They tried again.

00:46:49.000 Judge Sullivan started prosecuting, essentially, refusing the prosecution to drop their case.

00:46:54.000 It makes no sense.

00:46:55.000 And then, here's the funniest part, the most infuriating thing.

00:46:59.000 Over the past month, do you know what Judge Sullivan has done?

00:47:02.000 Nothing.

00:47:03.000 Nothing.

00:47:03.000 Literally.

00:47:03.000 You know why?

00:47:05.000 Sullivan is waiting for Joe Biden to get in so they can lock up Michael Flynn for no reason.

00:47:10.000 Because he offended the delicate sensibilities of the political establishment by working with Donald Trump.

00:47:15.000 That's it.

00:47:16.000 They used him as a weapon against Trump.

00:47:18.000 They threatened his family.

00:47:19.000 And Trump is pardoning him now.

00:47:20.000 This is a political civil war.

00:47:22.000 And that language came from Mother Jones.

00:47:25.000 They said the political civil war will carry on.

00:47:28.000 When you have the Obama administration falsely targeting an acting national security advisor who was doing his job, And with the underlying motivation of protecting themselves, right?

00:47:38.000 The FBI said, what's our goal here to prosecute him or get him fired?

00:47:42.000 The fact that they even questioned getting him fired proves that their intention was

00:47:45.000 just to hurt Donald Trump's campaign.

00:47:48.000 Yes, that's it.

00:47:49.000 Or his administration.

00:47:50.000 Yeah.

00:47:51.000 And with the underlying motivation of protecting themselves, right?

00:47:54.000 Because Flynn was the one who knew where the skeletons were buried or which closets the

00:47:59.000 Something like that.

00:48:00.000 He knew where the bodies were.

00:48:02.000 There we go.

00:48:03.000 He knew where the bodies were.

00:48:03.000 Probably literally and figuratively.

00:48:05.000 Yeah, a hundred percent.

00:48:06.000 And it definitely derailed things.

00:48:08.000 And it also put Trump in a really bad position where he, you know, he fired him and then he looked bad.

00:48:14.000 He didn't look loyal to his people.

00:48:15.000 And he threw out sort of a dynamic guy who wanted to make change in the right way, who saw the world the right way and was part of the whole team that was supposed to make changes.

00:48:26.000 And that was a huge fumble and a huge, a huge win basically for the Democrats there.

00:48:31.000 And it just reminds me actually of why the presidential pardon exists in some cases.

00:48:35.000 I mean, you had to, people had to believe that they would use the courts against your political, you know, allies as a way to get to you.

00:48:43.000 So like, of course, people that support the president are going to be attacked.

00:48:46.000 And this is a way to, you know, maybe protect somebody in that regard.

00:48:49.000 I'm not an expert on presidential pardons, so I'm just spitting them all in there.

00:48:51.000 Yeah, it does seem weird that he pled guilty, then they tried dropping it, and it's like the case is already, like, did it already get to that point?

00:48:58.000 Like, where are we at?

00:48:59.000 But it's weird, like, you can pardon someone before they've been investigated or charged or something?

00:49:03.000 Yeah, I'm not an expert on that.

00:49:06.000 All I know is I wish that he would have done that sooner.

00:49:09.000 Brought him back into the fold.

00:49:10.000 He wanted to get re-elected.

00:49:10.000 He didn't want to rock the boat.

00:49:12.000 That's it.

00:49:13.000 Who was advising this guy?

00:49:15.000 If he would have pardoned Flynn, more people would have come out in support of him.

00:49:19.000 If Trump came out in the first debate with the, when they said your last and final statement, I, Donald J. Trump, am going to completely legalize through executive order on my first day of reelection, January 21st, I will completely legalize cannabis nationwide and pardon all nonviolent drug offenders.

00:49:37.000 If that was that last thing he said, he's like 120 million votes.

00:49:40.000 I have been saying that since 2016.

00:49:42.000 One of the survey questions in the survey I did for Democrat to Deplorable, the last question, bonus question, do you think that cannabis should be decriminalized at the federal level?

00:49:51.000 And it was like 75% to 25% of Democrat to Deplorable voters supported it.

00:49:56.000 It would have been a huge win.

00:49:57.000 I called for it.

00:49:58.000 I even told all my contacts in the White House, I've been pushing for it.

00:50:03.000 I mean, they don't have the influence to get that done, but I tried.

00:50:06.000 I tried, because it's a civil liberties issue.

00:50:09.000 It's a civil rights issue.

00:50:11.000 You know, it's a liberty issue.

00:50:13.000 I mean, also, it's just sane and smart.

00:50:15.000 And it generates a lot of revenue through taxation.

00:50:18.000 It would defang a lot of cartels, which it already has started to do.

00:50:23.000 You know what's really crazy?

00:50:24.000 You know the cartels are selling now?

00:50:27.000 I don't want to know.

00:50:28.000 Is it getting worse?

00:50:31.000 Make a guess.

00:50:32.000 They're selling Tina Barbatal.

00:50:35.000 So now that pot is basically recreational in many different states, you're wrong.

00:50:39.000 You're wrong.

00:50:40.000 It's way worse.

00:50:41.000 Way worse than that?

00:50:42.000 Yeah, avocados.

00:50:43.000 No joke.

00:50:44.000 Avocados.

00:50:44.000 Really?

00:50:45.000 Yep.

00:50:46.000 Because avocados are extremely in demand.

00:50:50.000 Millennials love that avocado toast.

00:50:50.000 Lucrative.

00:50:52.000 I mean, avocados are pretty awesome.

00:50:54.000 So they're shaking down avocado farms.

00:50:55.000 Now it's more money.

00:50:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I believe that 100% that those guys aren't dedicated to the art and the act of selling drugs.

00:51:03.000 If they knew a guy that bought bricks for 10 and they could sell bricks for 9, they would do it that way.

00:51:09.000 Maybe not in that order.

00:51:10.000 But yeah, he could have done it.

00:51:12.000 He didn't do it.

00:51:13.000 There's a lot of things he could have done, didn't do.

00:51:16.000 I don't know if I'm ready for the post-mortem, although I've been critical of him every time that he needed it, and I've been supportive when he has.

00:51:22.000 You know, I've never been one to come out and just throw MAGA red meat and say Donald Trump is the God-Savior and all that.

00:51:28.000 He represented an opportunity for us, the network, to make change.

00:51:35.000 And I think he was effective in some ways in that regard, and he certainly stalled some of the things that we wanted to stall and slow.

00:51:44.000 But was he perfect?

00:51:45.000 No.

00:51:46.000 The economic devastation that will come to this country in the next several months will be... I believe it's going to be... COVID-related, you mean?

00:51:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:57.000 It's going to be unimaginable.

00:51:58.000 And the new administration.

00:52:00.000 Tim, do you really think that the COVID situation is going to be worse now than it was in March?

00:52:07.000 Uh, based, based on the fact that people are already had already their legs chopped off in March and now they're coming for him again.

00:52:15.000 Yeah, man.

00:52:15.000 Oh, fiscally.

00:52:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:17.000 The lock.

00:52:17.000 So they're destroying ownership.

00:52:20.000 No, I mean, I'm telling you, we got this, uh, I got the, let me, let me pull the story, the story of new COVID policing unit to launch in Maryland on Thanksgiving Eve.

00:52:29.000 They're, uh, high, high visibility enforcement efforts.

00:52:32.000 They're calling like, they're calling them like compliance units.

00:52:35.000 State and local police to enforce compliance.

00:52:38.000 We're literally at a point where the government, against the science, and even in some instances against the direction of the CDC, are destroying the economy.

00:52:50.000 Here's what happens.

00:52:51.000 Have you noticed that Dow Jones hit 30,000 points today?

00:52:54.000 I sure did.

00:52:54.000 Yeah, that's real good news for people with money in retirement or in their stocks, but younger people and people who are lower class just got cut off completely.

00:53:05.000 We're at a point where you can see the stock market skyrocketing while businesses are collapsing, wages are gone because the jobs are gone.

00:53:14.000 So Joe Biden says, I'm going to trust the scientists on what we should do.

00:53:19.000 And who's his advisor?

00:53:20.000 Is Dr. Osterholm, who said, lock the whole country down for six weeks.

00:53:24.000 Remember, 15 days slow the spread turned into, you know, 15 days, 10 months.

00:53:29.000 And the goal was just to ease the burden on the ICU so that we didn't have a bunch of secondary deaths because of capacity overloads.

00:53:38.000 And one thing that I have noticed.

00:53:40.000 It looks as though that the second wave in Europe isn't resulting in the same amount of deaths proportionately as the first go-round.

00:53:48.000 It also looks like they might be peaking.

00:53:49.000 I understand, but just in terms of the science and the data is going to show a more diminished effect, I think, this time.

00:53:57.000 Because we have therapeutics and we have treatment and knowledge.

00:53:59.000 They're gonna say, oh, that's because the lockdown is working.

00:54:03.000 We better double our efforts.

00:54:06.000 In Greece, if you want to leave your house, you got to text the cops.

00:54:08.000 Let them know why.

00:54:09.000 In France, you got to have your papers.

00:54:11.000 Where is the rapid disposable test?

00:54:15.000 If we could just...

00:54:17.000 What do you mean?

00:54:18.000 The anti-fascist to say the government cannot come down and lock you in your home.

00:54:22.000 Right, exactly.

00:54:23.000 No, they're cheering for it, I guess.

00:54:25.000 Where'd they go?

00:54:26.000 They'll protest some fat old Trump supporter waving a flag, but they turn a blind eye when the government comes out to locking people in their houses.

00:54:32.000 LARPers with attitudes for sure, but I think isn't a solution this a rapid test that you can just take every day or you can take it when you go somewhere. 1.00

00:54:41.000 Just test test all the time with this is this would be the unreliable.

00:54:44.000 We should be focusing on well.

00:54:46.000 So I think what's going to end up happening is we've already saw it with I think it's pronounced contest or Qantas.

00:54:51.000 I don't know.

00:54:52.000 It's the Q the Australian airline.

00:54:54.000 If you want to fly international, you got to get your vaccine.

00:54:56.000 You got to have your approved vaccine status.

00:54:58.000 Wow.

00:54:59.000 And Ticketmaster announced they would list vaccine status on tickets if the organizers wanted it.

00:55:04.000 So what's going to happen is people are going to be like, no one's forcing you to get the COVID vaccine.

00:55:09.000 But you can't do anything.

00:55:10.000 You can't go to the store because it's private business.

00:55:14.000 Right.

00:55:14.000 This is the same way that they really affected the, quote, lockdowns, is they just made it so that there was nowhere for you to go.

00:55:21.000 So I think everything we're seeing is the rich getting richer.

00:55:27.000 Look, man, if I had to buy a stock right now, I'd buy these pharmaceutical stocks, you know?

00:55:34.000 People gotta get the vaccines.

00:55:36.000 They're already saying they're gonna put vaccine status on cards.

00:55:39.000 China wants QR codes on your phone for the whole world, because that's what they're doing.

00:55:43.000 So, uh, yeah.

00:55:44.000 So guess what company is gonna make a ton of money?

00:55:46.000 I've seen V for Vendetta.

00:55:48.000 You've seen V for Vendetta, right?

00:55:49.000 The guys who worked at Lark Hill bought all the stock in the pharmaceutical company and then all became ridiculously wealthy.

00:55:56.000 I'm not saying there's anything nefarious with the vaccine itself.

00:55:58.000 I'm saying they've got a government mandate.

00:56:02.000 These companies got Operation Warp Speed.

00:56:04.000 And so these pharmaceutical companies are like, we got a guaranteed $2 billion contract.

00:56:09.000 Invest in, that's money!

00:56:11.000 The company's gonna make money, guaranteed.

00:56:13.000 Definitely.

00:56:14.000 Let's talk a little bit more.

00:56:15.000 I'm not familiar with the details of Warp Speed.

00:56:17.000 Are you?

00:56:18.000 Only a little bit.

00:56:20.000 They basically offered up guaranteed contracts to the companies, so some got direct funding, and I think Pfizer got a guaranteed contract.

00:56:28.000 And did they strip any of the regulations and approvals or make it streamlined or anything like that?

00:56:34.000 I can vaguely say I think so.

00:56:35.000 Because I was just having this realization today that really the FDA and regulations and clinical trials and all that, that is what's standing in our way of ending all this.

00:56:46.000 All of this.

00:56:47.000 Ending the lockdown.

00:56:48.000 Ending the social isolation.

00:56:49.000 Well, I mean, we need the vaccine.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, I'm saying.

00:56:51.000 Did you watch Utopia?

00:56:53.000 Dude, I'm the one that told you to watch it.

00:56:55.000 The new one I did not watch.

00:56:56.000 It's different.

00:56:57.000 It was way different.

00:56:58.000 In the new one, there's a wealthy biotech guy who wants to create a world with no racism or sexism or inequality.

00:57:06.000 So he stages a fake pandemic.

00:57:08.000 So that they can ram through a vaccine without proper protocols, and then the vaccine actually just sterilizes people.

00:57:14.000 Make people beg.

00:57:14.000 Right.

00:57:15.000 Beg to take the vaccine, which is the thing that actually sterilizes them.

00:57:19.000 Have you seen the end yet?

00:57:22.000 I saw it.

00:57:23.000 You fell asleep, I think.

00:57:24.000 But the idea was people would beg for it and not realize for five or ten years that the next generation... So now in DC, there's a story you sent me, Yeah.

00:57:33.000 They just approved, 10 to 3 approved, children can get vaccinated without the parents knowing.

00:57:40.000 So imagine this, vaccines can have adverse reactions, that's a fact.

00:57:46.000 Complications tend to be rare, but they do happen, especially if you've got, you know,

00:57:50.000 how many people live in DC?

00:57:52.000 In D.C.

00:57:52.000 700,000.

00:57:54.000 proper, like 3 million maybe.

00:57:56.000 3 million?

00:57:57.000 No, no, no, just in D.C.

00:57:57.000 proper.

00:57:58.000 Well, actually, I guess if the kid lives outside of D.C.

00:57:58.000 Just 700,000.

00:58:01.000 but goes to school in D.C., that could happen, right?

00:58:03.000 It could.

00:58:04.000 So then, you've got a couple hundred thousand kids, maybe?

00:58:07.000 Potential?

00:58:08.000 There's like 80,000 kids in the school district, in the school system in D.C.

00:58:11.000 So, of this 80,000, there is possible complication that might arise.

00:58:16.000 Oh, for sure.

00:58:18.000 The mother's watching their kid convulse on the floor, screaming, I don't know what's going on, I don't know what's going on.

00:58:22.000 She calls 911 and they say, has your son been given any medication?

00:58:25.000 No, he hasn't.

00:58:27.000 And then they give the kid a counterindicated medication and the kid just explodes right in front of everyone.

00:58:27.000 Okay.

00:58:32.000 Yeah.

00:58:33.000 I mean, when I saw the headline for that article, I didn't think it was true.

00:58:33.000 Figuratively.

00:58:37.000 I watched the video.

00:58:38.000 Dude, when you sent me the link of the video timestamp for my DC city council, like approving some bill like that, it made me laugh that you were paying that close attention to the DC council.

00:58:48.000 Bunch of jokers.

00:58:50.000 Well, when I saw that the story came out saying the D.C.

00:58:52.000 City Council has voted, they said they plan to finalize a vote allowing children as young as 11 to get vaccinated without parental consent, I looked up the hearing and I watched the video of them all voting on it.

00:59:05.000 Ten to three.

00:59:06.000 Ten to three.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, and it's not even just that it's without parental consent, but it is a legitimate conspiracy to keep parents uninformed, where the doctor can order the vaccine for the 11-year-old who has given their, quote, informed consent to the 11-year-old, right?

00:59:25.000 And then they bill the insurance company without notifying the parent.

00:59:29.000 And then when the insurance company sends you a statement, They can leave out the description of benefits.

00:59:35.000 So you have no idea what that service was.

00:59:38.000 So the whole, there's no paper trail, there's no anything.

00:59:41.000 You're completely cut out.

00:59:43.000 When you go to the hospital, they ask if you've taken any medications recently, you know, if you know, and there, and there's probably, they might tell the kid, like, here's what you should or shouldn't do after getting this vaccine.

00:59:53.000 If the kid has some kind of complication and the mom doesn't know, the mom could do something very serious that could harm the child.

00:59:58.000 Yeah.

00:59:59.000 Or, or just the fact that how can you do that to my child?

01:00:02.000 What, what, what troubles me is establishing some notion that an 11 year old can give consent.

01:00:08.000 Now I have, I listen, Tim, Tim, you know, you know, that we know some people that trade in crazy theories and we know that there's a universe out there for crazy theories.

01:00:16.000 And there's one crazy theory that I've never given any credence to, which is that There's some sort of grooming, a future grooming of like pedophilia, right? 0.90

01:00:24.000 Like making it okay for adults to have sex with kids, which is obviously the most disgusting thing you can think of. 0.53

01:00:30.000 And I've always discounted, I've never paid attention to it. 0.92

01:00:32.000 Sure, there's instances where children are molested and assaulted.

01:00:35.000 It's a horrible, terrible thing.

01:00:36.000 We must stop it.

01:00:38.000 But when you start defining legally the fact that an 11 year old can give informed consent, to where else can they give this level of consent at 11 years old?

01:00:46.000 It's troubling.

01:00:47.000 Did you know that a very popular social media app created, they had these stickers that would say like New Year's and like Happy Day.

01:00:55.000 And there was one of them that said, they put out a video, I think it was Snapchat, I could be wrong.

01:00:59.000 It said, you know, love knows no age.

01:01:02.000 Terrible.

01:01:02.000 And people started saying, uh, what do you mean?

01:01:06.000 Like, it's not like, maybe you're trying to say like, if you're 50 and you're dating someone who's 20, it's still kind of weird, but like, it's illegal.

01:01:15.000 But like, you're going the wrong way with this one.

01:01:17.000 Cause that's not what people hear.

01:01:18.000 Exactly.

01:01:19.000 Exactly.

01:01:19.000 And so when I brought this up to some of my friends and family about this new law in DC, which luckily has only passed the council, it still needs mayoral execution, which is probably going to get, but then luckily in DC, we don't have home rule for real.

01:01:32.000 And so the final law gets approved by Congress.

01:01:34.000 I've already started lobbying sympathetic congressmen as a way to get Senate and no, it just gets approved by the house.

01:01:40.000 They're going to approve it.

01:01:42.000 It's Democrats.

01:01:44.000 True, but there are ways there are ways to to to do.

01:01:49.000 I've seen independent renegade acting isolated representatives in the house affect DC law because it was their pet issue.

01:01:58.000 They find ways through amendments or whatever the case may be.

01:02:01.000 So I started lobbying people because I can't let the tap.

01:02:03.000 I tried to explain.

01:02:04.000 To my friends and family what it meant and they read it and then they just they come back with the most charitable Charitable like oh, well, maybe they didn't word it the right way or that's not exactly what they mean exactly, right?

01:02:17.000 It's the same thing when you send people to the old BLM website where it said that they wanted to disrupt the nuclear family and blah blah blah I got rid of that now.

01:02:25.000 I know they did.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, and and you I sent the the guy that that live streamed the Portland murder and I interviewed him for like an hour and a half going through his tape back and forth.

01:02:36.000 And at the end, I'm trying to ask him, why are you doing this?

01:02:39.000 He's like, my daughter's got me roped into it.

01:02:41.000 Not roped into, but she's teaching me about it.

01:02:42.000 Whatever.

01:02:43.000 I was like, do you know what it says?

01:02:45.000 You're a family man.

01:02:45.000 You're a dad.

01:02:47.000 You, you're the center of your family and you're taking care of your kids and you believe in the power of fatherhood and a nuclear family.

01:02:52.000 Let's read what it says on Black Lives Matter website about disrupting the nuclear family. 0.92

01:02:56.000 And he read it and he was like, Oh, they just probably had a bad editor.

01:03:00.000 It's like people won't just read the plain language on the paper.

01:03:06.000 Look man, the throne was seized a long time ago by this ideology.

01:03:11.000 And it's interesting because we had Hotep Cizasson.

01:03:14.000 Yeah, how was that?

01:03:15.000 He was great, he was great.

01:03:16.000 And he was basically saying that Ian was a pessimist.

01:03:20.000 And that Ian didn't trust in people and that's why, like, you know, it was interesting to say because Ian's usually

01:03:26.000 much more optimistic.

01:03:27.000 But the general idea is the people who have, who are in positions of power, the political establishment, they think

01:03:34.000 that people are better off being told what to do instead of being given the freedom to do it.

01:03:38.000 Michael Bloomberg is the perfect example when he said tax the poor.

01:03:42.000 And I don't mean that hyperbolically.

01:03:43.000 He literally gave a speech about taxing the poor being the right thing to do.

01:03:46.000 He said, we need to tax the poor because they make terrible decisions.

01:03:51.000 And if we have their money and make the decision for them, they'll be better off.

01:03:55.000 To varying degrees, I understand what he's trying to say.

01:03:58.000 I can agree in some capacity.

01:04:00.000 The problem is, the bigger picture is a decentralized network deciding for itself will be infinitely smarter and faster moving and better than a command economy.

01:04:09.000 I'm in favor of a mixed economy.

01:04:11.000 Like, we definitely need a government that can say, hey, whoa, wow, that was a really bad thing we did.

01:04:15.000 You know, the market's going crazy.

01:04:17.000 We need to figure this out before everything goes nuts.

01:04:19.000 But I don't, so I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist, but I also don't think a command economy with one person dictating what you should or shouldn't do makes sense.

01:04:25.000 These people do.

01:04:26.000 So Bloomberg passes the tax on sugary drinks.

01:04:29.000 It's like, no, dude, like, you need a cultural shift to get people to do better.

01:04:34.000 You can't just mandate you can't drink soda.

01:04:36.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:37.000 Right.

01:04:38.000 You figure out the right way to get people, like, I don't know.

01:04:42.000 It's got to be a cultural shift.

01:04:44.000 It's got to be based upon giving people the choice to do the right thing.

01:04:49.000 But giving people the choice to do, quote, the right thing, but comes with the acceptance that people are going to do the wrong thing.

01:04:59.000 Yep.

01:05:00.000 And being prepared for that and being willing to live with those consequences.

01:05:03.000 Are you an optimist or a pessimist?

01:05:06.000 An optimist would say, I think that in a long enough period of time, humans have the house advantage, 51 to 49.

01:05:14.000 So the way a casino works is they don't care if you win.

01:05:17.000 They love it when you win.

01:05:18.000 Good.

01:05:18.000 It's marketing for them.

01:05:19.000 They want you to cheer.

01:05:20.000 And so everyone hears you winning and that makes them gamble more because in a long enough timeframe, the house always wins because their edge is, you know, over a point.

01:05:28.000 That's the same thing in terms—that's how I view giving people free choice.

01:05:33.000 We've proven consistently that on a long enough time frame, humans tend towards succeeding.

01:05:38.000 Very well, actually.

01:05:40.000 And these people don't believe it.

01:05:42.000 These people think humans don't have the edge and need to be constrained, and that has led to disaster every time it's been tried.

01:05:48.000 Every single time.

01:05:49.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 One thing that works just as well as success being rewarded is failure being, you know, consequences for failure, right? 0.99

01:05:57.000 So people make dumb decisions. 0.96

01:05:58.000 They don't have to make them decisions for very long. 0.97

01:06:01.000 Unless of course we're all going to socialize their negative, you know, their, their bad decisions, which is when you get into that hybrid space where you'd give people the freedom to do what they want.

01:06:09.000 Then when they make the bad decision, then you have to pick them up and take care of them.

01:06:13.000 I remember my dad used to describe to me welfare.

01:06:15.000 He's like, son, do you want the people banging on your door looking for bread?

01:06:19.000 Yep.

01:06:19.000 The way I put it is, they say, you know, if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.

01:06:21.000 Not a bad thought with that being the assumption that there was always going to be people looking

01:06:25.000 for bread, right?

01:06:26.000 Yep.

01:06:27.000 The way I put it is they say, you know, if you if you give a man a fish, you feed him

01:06:32.000 for a day.

01:06:33.000 If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for the rest of his life.

01:06:34.000 Well, the left often says, like, you can't lift yourself up by your bootstraps if you

01:06:38.000 don't have any boots.

01:06:39.000 And I'm like, yeah, it's really simple.

01:06:40.000 You teach a guy to fish, have him in a fishing rod, and say, have at it.

01:06:42.000 And that's the end of it.

01:06:43.000 Yeah.

01:06:44.000 Give them the means to do the fishing.

01:06:46.000 So there's certain things.

01:06:47.000 So that's why I'm, you know, left-leaning in certain, like, I'm independent and left-leaning a bit.

01:06:52.000 Because, like, yeah, we'll take a person, you know, they're struggling, teach them to fish, give them the fishing rod.

01:06:56.000 You know, we can't take care of you forever, but we can do our best to help you out.

01:07:00.000 You know, I've gotten unemployment benefits when I was in my 20s, and it saved my life, kept me from being homeless.

01:07:06.000 So I think these can be good things.

01:07:07.000 The problem is when people get addicted to them, and it's just easier to stay on than to get off.

01:07:12.000 And so now what we're seeing with the COVID lockdowns is that instead of figuring out a way to survive, a lot of people are just screaming for the government to print more money.

01:07:21.000 And that's literally calling for the destruction of your economy.

01:07:24.000 And they don't care.

01:07:25.000 It's just people screaming to extract more from the machine.

01:07:29.000 They don't care.

01:07:32.000 99% of people in America can't even point out where Washington, D.C.

01:07:36.000 is on the map, much less understand the long-term ramifications of increasing the money supply.

01:07:43.000 So who knows, right?

01:07:44.000 But maybe we're facing a huge demand shortage, so deflation is our biggest enemy.

01:07:49.000 I don't know.

01:07:49.000 I did just see the house prices in D.C.

01:07:51.000 are going up.

01:07:52.000 There's a huge spike in real estate activity.

01:07:55.000 I think the rich are going to have... It's the greatest thing in the world, man.

01:08:00.000 If you're rich, think about what this means.

01:08:03.000 They're going to decimate the economy with a lockdown, and then you can go buy all that property up.

01:08:08.000 Two things happen.

01:08:09.000 For one, the interest rates are in the gutter.

01:08:10.000 Because they're like, oh, no, the economy, oh, the interest rates, drop everything down.

01:08:13.000 And so you can buy up all this property and get a great rate.

01:08:16.000 And the property value is tanking in a lot of places, especially New York.

01:08:19.000 And then what happens when they're like, we've just deployed the vaccine and the property values skyrocket back up again?

01:08:25.000 The economy collapses, the rich people buy everything up, and then it comes back and now they control everything.

01:08:30.000 And it comes and goes in waves, they keep doing it.

01:08:32.000 So poor people lose everything, they're struggling, begging for help, and the rich are getting richer.

01:08:37.000 Bezos' net worth skyrocketing, Amazon's value skyrocketing, all these big companies, all their revenue, everything's skyrocketing because they locked down small business.

01:08:45.000 It's a you know, people are fighting back.

01:08:48.000 I saw a little bit I saw I saw like a burger shop who was defying the codes and doing GoFundMes for the fees for the for the fines.

01:08:58.000 Yeah.

01:08:58.000 And I saw another gym owner who refused at the rate of like $15,000.

01:09:01.000 Yeah, he's like he tore it up.

01:09:03.000 I think.

01:09:03.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, you know, we need we need more of that.

01:09:07.000 And I recommend action like that where you're directly if you're going to protest confronting the rule enforcer or the rulemaker that is legitimately authorized by the government.

01:09:18.000 Don't put your local hostess at the restaurant in a hard spot by refusing to wear a mask or not complying. 1.00

01:09:24.000 Don't be that jerk. 1.00

01:09:25.000 You know, it's not her decision to just make her life easier. 1.00

01:09:28.000 It sucks for her to you know, I understand wearing masks.

01:09:32.000 I understand wearing masks when you're going shopping.

01:09:34.000 I don't understand masks when you go to a restaurant, and you walk in, and they say, right this way, and then they sit you down and you take your mask right off.

01:09:41.000 Well, dude, now, uh, in DC, the restaurants are like, you have to have your mask on the whole time, the whole time you're not eating.

01:09:48.000 Anytime the waitstaff approaches the table, you must put your mask on.

01:09:52.000 And I went out the other night and, and I'm eating and I've got the cloth napkin.

01:09:56.000 It's like a really thick, nice white napkin.

01:09:58.000 And there they come up with the next drink and they just kind of stand there sheepishly from like six feet away.

01:10:05.000 And I went like this instead of putting a mask on, I just went like this with the With the napkin, you know?

01:10:10.000 And then the guy's like, that's not how you do it.

01:10:12.000 That doesn't work.

01:10:13.000 He goes, it's dirty.

01:10:14.000 I'm like, what do you mean it's dirty?

01:10:16.000 Just like masks.

01:10:17.000 It's all dirty.

01:10:17.000 Everything's dirty.

01:10:18.000 He's like, you're doing it wrong.

01:10:19.000 You're doing it wrong.

01:10:20.000 And my girlfriend told me, you know, these people think that they're risking their lives.

01:10:25.000 They're risking their lives by doing this service for you and that they're at risk of dying if I don't If the difference between me putting up a cloth napkin versus a cloth face mask is making people insane.

01:10:40.000 It makes me not want to go out.

01:10:42.000 It makes me not want to hang out with people like that.

01:10:44.000 You know, I don't I don't know anybody who's like that.

01:10:46.000 You don't because I mean, they don't come here.

01:10:48.000 I know they exist.

01:10:49.000 I've talked to them, but my circle of friends and family, they're just not like that.

01:10:56.000 You see that funny meme?

01:10:59.000 It's like normal people, and it's a guy wearing that gigantic... It's a gigantic thing you put over your head, and it's got a vent that pulls air in.

01:11:07.000 It's like a clear front and a big... It's like you're going underwater.

01:11:11.000 It's like normal people, and then under it says conspiracy theorists, and it's people smiling and having turkey and Thanksgiving.

01:11:16.000 Exactly.

01:11:17.000 Yeah.

01:11:18.000 Oh, actually, I can pull it up because I think I think Mike Cernovich.

01:11:21.000 Oh, we have the meme.

01:11:22.000 Yeah.

01:11:23.000 One second to find the meme.

01:11:25.000 Isn't that the thing?

01:11:27.000 The conspiracy theorists are the ones who want to have school open and the ones who want to have Thanksgiving and travel and get back to work and open up the economy.

01:11:36.000 Tim, if you were an 85 year old grandmother with 12 grandchildren all in grade school right now and you thought yourself you had two or three years left of life, Would you demand that your grandchildren be deprived of their senior prom and their last varsity year of sports and hanging out with their friends so that you can live out one or two extra years of your life?

01:12:01.000 No.

01:12:01.000 Of course not!

01:12:03.000 No one would.

01:12:04.000 No grandmother would. 0.53

01:12:05.000 Why don't we let the grandparents decide on the lockdown? 1.00

01:12:08.000 You gotta see this thing here.

01:12:09.000 This is the meme.

01:12:10.000 Normal people.

01:12:11.000 Look at this thing this guy's wearing.

01:12:13.000 Oh, Jack can't see it at all.

01:12:15.000 So normal people aren't really wearing these things.

01:12:18.000 This is like a weird marketing thing people are trying to do.

01:12:20.000 But then conspiracy theorists.

01:12:21.000 It's like grandma giving the turkey and grandma's smiling and everyone's clapping and happy.

01:12:27.000 Yeah, man.

01:12:28.000 They accuse you of what they're doing.

01:12:33.000 And it's working.

01:12:35.000 And so if the Republicans are sitting there with their feet up, smoking cigars, being like, dude, I don't want to be involved.

01:12:42.000 I'm just happy to get paid.

01:12:44.000 And so you've got one side.

01:12:46.000 When we had Hotep Jesus on, he was talking bad about the Democrats.

01:12:49.000 And I was like, we do that.

01:12:51.000 We smack talk Democrats all the time. 0.50

01:12:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:53.000 And I was like, what do you think about Republicans?

01:12:55.000 And he said something like, I don't know that the Republicans are doing anything that I could actually complain, like, actually, like, talk about at all.

01:13:01.000 What do they do?

01:13:02.000 And I'm like, they don't do anything.

01:13:03.000 They're literally just sitting around, pretending to fight, I guess.

01:13:07.000 How many hearings have they had on big tech censorship and done nothing about it?

01:13:10.000 Oh, those Republicans.

01:13:11.000 Yes.

01:13:12.000 Oh, I don't mean the people.

01:13:13.000 Yes.

01:13:13.000 No, I mean the politicians.

01:13:14.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:13:15.000 I know the Democratic politicians are doing trash. 0.98

01:13:18.000 The Republican politicians are like, we're fighting for you! 1.00

01:13:20.000 And then they sit down and they... We hate them all. 0.99

01:13:22.000 We hate them all.

01:13:23.000 The MAGA movement has no respect for the GOP. 1.00

01:13:25.000 We hope it dies and disintegrates and blasts into a million, billion, trillion pieces.

01:13:29.000 And we can truly point the finger at them as the limiting factor in many ways in Trump's success. 0.71

01:13:34.000 So no love lost there.

01:13:36.000 I was never a Republican.

01:13:37.000 The book isn't Democrat to Republican.

01:13:40.000 Right? 0.99

01:13:41.000 It's Democrats are deplorable. 0.99

01:13:43.000 You should write a new one called Deplorable to Ugly Chumps. 1.00

01:13:47.000 That's what Biden called them.

01:13:47.000 Ugly Chumps?

01:13:48.000 He called them Ugly Chumps. 0.98

01:13:50.000 I'm an Ugly Chump. 0.95

01:13:51.000 I bet I could be Biden in the push-up contest. 1.00

01:13:54.000 Yeah, you sure could.

01:13:55.000 Yeah, you probably could.

01:13:57.000 Did you know that Biden gave a speech today or something?

01:13:59.000 Nope.

01:14:01.000 Nobody did!

01:14:02.000 Politics?

01:14:03.000 Forget about politics, Tim.

01:14:04.000 I'm going to make some skate videos.

01:14:07.000 Do it.

01:14:07.000 I want to know.

01:14:08.000 First of all, I think that you should lay down seven more tracks and put out an album.

01:14:12.000 I think that that first song that I heard blew my mind.

01:14:15.000 No offense.

01:14:16.000 Exceeded all my expectations.

01:14:18.000 The video was fantastic.

01:14:19.000 You can play and sing.

01:14:21.000 And it's on point, and we need art.

01:14:24.000 We need art like that.

01:14:25.000 We need videos, and movies, and books, and literature, and music, and music videos.

01:14:30.000 So Tim, you should do that.

01:14:31.000 I've often wondered, coming up here so many times, what, it's like 10 times I've been up here?

01:14:34.000 Yeah.

01:14:35.000 And I wonder, you know, where are you going to go, Tim?

01:14:38.000 You're younger than me.

01:14:39.000 You're 13, 14 years younger than me, probably.

01:14:41.000 How old are you?

01:14:42.000 I'm 45.

01:14:43.000 I'm 34.

01:14:44.000 34.

01:14:44.000 Okay, 11.

01:14:45.000 11 years younger than me.

01:14:47.000 You've got this whole YouTube empire built.

01:14:49.000 You're doing great.

01:14:50.000 You're fulfilled.

01:14:52.000 And I'm wondering, where are you going to go?

01:14:53.000 What are you going to do next?

01:14:55.000 And it sounds like you're starting to make some moves, man.

01:14:57.000 You're scaling back just a little bit.

01:14:59.000 Scaling back just a little bit.

01:15:00.000 And you're going to start doing some other projects.

01:15:02.000 Oh, not scaling up.

01:15:03.000 Scaling back, actually.

01:15:04.000 On the videos.

01:15:05.000 On the videos.

01:15:06.000 On the political videos.

01:15:08.000 Right, right, right.

01:15:09.000 I mean, maybe.

01:15:10.000 We'll see what happens.

01:15:12.000 I've taken, you know, I think the day after, it was the Sunday after the election, I took the day off, like, for the first literal... I'm taking a day off.

01:15:20.000 I've never done that before.

01:15:21.000 The only times I've ever had off is because, like, I lost my voice, or I had to get, like, a tooth, you know, fixed or something, and so I had no choice but to take a day off.

01:15:27.000 This was literally me being like, eh, I'm gonna go ride my bike, and then I rode my bike 32 miles, and people were like, that's not a day off, dude.

01:15:32.000 It's like, you rode your bike 32 miles.

01:15:34.000 It was intense.

01:15:35.000 No, it was brutal.

01:15:35.000 I was like...

01:15:38.000 After like 20 miles, you know, I had 12 left.

01:15:42.000 I just kind of like my brain shut off.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, because I couldn't stop in the middle of the woods.

01:15:46.000 There's nothing you can do.

01:15:47.000 There's no you can't call anybody.

01:15:48.000 You can't get a ride.

01:15:49.000 It's like you either get on your bike and you finish the 12 miles or you just sit in the woods forever.

01:15:52.000 That's awesome, man.

01:15:53.000 So it was like my legs felt like it was a weird feeling, but it felt like I was ripping them to shreds.

01:15:58.000 Tim, that's amazing.

01:15:59.000 And I want all of you guys out there listening to this to take note.

01:16:03.000 Get outside.

01:16:05.000 Exercise, get your heart rate going, look at trees. 0.88

01:16:09.000 When was the last time you guys saw a freaking tree, man?

01:16:14.000 Get out there. 0.89

01:16:15.000 You got to get out there for your sanity and to connect with nature and reset yourself.

01:16:20.000 So I'm happy to hear that.

01:16:21.000 So I want to know more though.

01:16:22.000 We're going to start doing events.

01:16:23.000 I don't know what's going to happen because the lockdown stuff is getting crazy.

01:16:28.000 But we're probably gonna do, uh, right now, within the guidelines, like, we can have events.

01:16:33.000 You know, we don't have a hundred people, we just have, like, you know, maybe twenty people.

01:16:37.000 Which is apparently fine, but we're also in the middle of nowhere, so, like, no one's coming out here.

01:16:41.000 But, uh, the goal is to just do some events, and- and start filming videos, and, uh, the vlog channel's gonna be more... just fun and shenanigans, I guess.

01:16:49.000 Just- just- just to, like, uh... It- it's- it's a combination of, for one, Things are gonna start, it depends on what happens, I guess, if all hell breaks loose in the next month or so.

01:17:01.000 You know, the reason why I do political commentary is because there's too much to talk about.

01:17:05.000 There's just so much going on all the time.

01:17:07.000 But I also think it's expanding the business.

01:17:11.000 I can only do so much as an individual, and if I'm going to create different verticals, different genre content channels, So the vlog channel was planned a long time ago.

01:17:22.000 This channel we're on right now was originally the vlog.

01:17:24.000 But then COVID happened.

01:17:26.000 So I was like, I couldn't find the vlogger.

01:17:28.000 It was too hard to do.

01:17:30.000 COVID happened.

01:17:30.000 So we're like, we'll just do a talk show, I guess.

01:17:32.000 Now it's like, okay, now we got to get the vlog going.

01:17:35.000 Talk show is relatively easy to do because we've been hearing the news all day.

01:17:40.000 We sit down, we have a conversation.

01:17:42.000 You have great guests.

01:17:44.000 The six segments I do on my other channels, TimCast and TimCast News, those are a lot harder to produce.

01:17:52.000 So I don't script anything, but it is reading for hours nonstop in the morning, all day, all night, constantly just pulling things up.

01:18:00.000 And doable, but it's intense.

01:18:03.000 You have amazing retention.

01:18:06.000 I remember everything.

01:18:07.000 Yeah.

01:18:08.000 I like it.

01:18:09.000 Sometimes when I'm riffing on just bigger picture issues, you stop and you're like, well, no.

01:18:12.000 And then there's this process and then this thing and that thing and that thing.

01:18:15.000 I'm like, sweet.

01:18:15.000 I read.

01:18:16.000 That's exactly what I need.

01:18:17.000 Hundreds of articles a day, probably.

01:18:18.000 Yeah.

01:18:19.000 And so the reason why you get into this groove where I read everything.

01:18:23.000 So it's like when I see a story and they say, you know, Donald Trump declares X, I say, oh, wow, because he declared Y back then, which means this.

01:18:31.000 And then you can pull that stuff up.

01:18:33.000 I do think it's funny when I see like I'll notice something, and there's oftentimes, as much as the left won't admit, they hate admitting it, or they don't actually watch my content, there's a lot of stuff that I report that's fairly original, and then I see it pop up and a bunch of people start saying similar things, and then, you know, it becomes a meme or something.

01:18:51.000 But at a certain point, you know, it's like, political commentary, I feel like, is just one direction that has its cap, and if I'm gonna expand the business and do more, that means I gotta lead the charge.

01:19:02.000 So, that's been one of the biggest challenges.

01:19:05.000 There's no, what do they call it, like a turnkey business?

01:19:08.000 Where it's like, you click the button, walk away, and the business takes money?

01:19:11.000 It doesn't work in this industry.

01:19:13.000 Or any.

01:19:14.000 I mean, but no, I mean, like, the idea is, it was from, I was watching a King of the Hill episode where, you know, he buys a car wash.

01:19:20.000 Yeah.

01:19:21.000 I know.

01:19:21.000 key business. You set it up, people go there, they put the money in the machine, they use the car

01:19:24.000 wash, they leave. And then you come back every night and you pick up the money and then you

01:19:29.000 go deposit in the bank. And repair the machines and pay the insurance. Right, right. But you're

01:19:33.000 not there managing on a day-to-day basis. I know. It's just sort of a myth, this idea that there's

01:19:38.000 a business that runs itself. Passive income isn't hardly passive at all and you definitely need to

01:19:43.000 lead the charge. Expand. Expand. I mean, do you think that there's a social or emotional toll on

01:19:50.000 Focusing on on the conflict and chaos and politics all the time.

01:19:53.000 Does it get to you ever?

01:19:54.000 No, because I've been focused on it my entire life.

01:19:58.000 Because I was 14, 9-11 happens, then we get all the war stuff, all of the music videos, all the celebrities, everything, they're screaming in my face.

01:20:05.000 Barack Obama comes around, we're going to end these wars, I vote for him, then he lied to me.

01:20:08.000 So it was endless, it was endless.

01:20:10.000 So I started working for non-profits, and then it was literally endless.

01:20:14.000 I'll tell you what, man, I worked for a non-profit in California, and it was when the Deepwater Horizon thing happened, when the oil spill happened in the Gulf.

01:20:21.000 And they gave us this fact sheet.

01:20:23.000 So I'm waving to people and I'm like, I was like, hey, we got a serious disaster.

01:20:27.000 Did you hear what happened in the Gulf?

01:20:28.000 Like deep water horizon erupted.

01:20:30.000 We're trying to get funding for awareness.

01:20:33.000 We need support.

01:20:34.000 And people will be like, wow, I didn't know that.

01:20:35.000 And we had pictures and everything.

01:20:36.000 And then one day I waved to a guy and I say, here's what's happening.

01:20:40.000 Here's how much has spilled.

01:20:41.000 And he goes, that's not true.

01:20:42.000 And I was like, what?

01:20:44.000 And he goes, that's not true.

01:20:45.000 It hasn't spilled that much.

01:20:46.000 The actual amount it spilled is like, you know, it's like 10 times less.

01:20:49.000 And I was like, oh, and he's like, why are you lying to me?

01:20:51.000 And I was like, ah, nah, this is what they gave me.

01:20:53.000 Like, yeah, why did they give you lies?

01:20:55.000 And then I got really angry.

01:20:56.000 Called up my boss right away and said, yo, some guy just told me I was lying.

01:20:59.000 I just looked it up.

01:21:00.000 This isn't true.

01:21:01.000 Like, you told us to go out and raise money.

01:21:02.000 This is not true.

01:21:03.000 And he goes, oh, yeah, you know, well, just keep using it.

01:21:09.000 And I was like, you're asking me to commit fraud?

01:21:12.000 Like, to knowingly lie to someone to get them to give me money?

01:21:15.000 I'm not doing that.

01:21:16.000 They fired me.

01:21:17.000 Good for you, Tim.

01:21:18.000 Well, I can't.

01:21:20.000 I'm like, I'm not gonna go to jail for this.

01:21:21.000 Like, I know I'm lying to you, but give me your money anyway.

01:21:24.000 Yeah, people lie and get money all the time without going to jail.

01:21:28.000 So good on you.

01:21:29.000 There's been a vigilante in you forever, I imagine.

01:21:32.000 Well, so that was, you know, I worked for non-profits and then eventually I was like, these companies, they're just companies.

01:21:36.000 The non-profits, they're companies.

01:21:37.000 They have a bottom line.

01:21:38.000 They want to make money.

01:21:39.000 And there's like, you know what I learned?

01:21:42.000 The real non-profits, the real charities, are the small ones.

01:21:45.000 Where it's like a dude who picks up a bunch of hot meals and drives them around himself.

01:21:49.000 It's like a church.

01:21:50.000 Yeah, it's like a church.

01:21:51.000 They drive around hot meals to people who are hungry and to the elderly.

01:21:55.000 Those are the real charities.

01:21:57.000 Then you see all these like TV charities and these big brand charities.

01:22:01.000 Look at Joe Biden's charity, right?

01:22:03.000 They gave zero towards cancer research.

01:22:05.000 It was a foundation supposed to give out grants.

01:22:06.000 They gave, like, nothing.

01:22:07.000 It was all salaries, like, just, like, big six-figure salaries.

01:22:10.000 That's... I'm not gonna make any accusations, but let me tell you something.

01:22:15.000 If you got dirty money, if you need to take some dirty money, you do, you start a charity!

01:22:21.000 Right?

01:22:22.000 If you gotta pay out dirty money, you hire people you know for that charity.

01:22:26.000 You pay them a salary, and then once it runs out, you shut it down.

01:22:29.000 Exactly right.

01:22:29.000 Cleaned.

01:22:30.000 Cleaned money.

01:22:30.000 Yeah.

01:22:30.000 I'm not saying that's what he did.

01:22:32.000 I'm just saying.

01:22:33.000 You know.

01:22:34.000 It's easy to do, and it happens all the time, and there's all kinds of non-profits like that operating in Washington, D.C.

01:22:40.000 People get paid, and they pay taxes, but it's tax deductible for the donors, which makes it a nice thing for them.

01:22:46.000 It's better than paying someone directly.

01:22:49.000 So it's tax advantaged.

01:22:52.000 It's all a game, Tim.

01:22:53.000 All of it is a game.

01:22:54.000 I teach my son.

01:22:56.000 At a very young age, he learned to ask, who's getting paid?

01:23:02.000 Where's the money going?

01:23:03.000 What does Alex Jones always say as a key bono?

01:23:05.000 Key bono?

01:23:06.000 Yeah, it's like a benefits.

01:23:07.000 Yeah, who benefits?

01:23:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:09.000 Yeah.

01:23:10.000 So my even my son at like eight, nine was like somebody somewhere is getting paid.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, true.

01:23:14.000 And someone's finding something from this.

01:23:16.000 So so you know, when it comes to the political commentary stuff, it's like, uh, I'm doing more than anybody else.

01:23:26.000 This show is the most fun out of any of the commentary I do.

01:23:31.000 Yeah.

01:23:32.000 So it's like, as long as we keep booking people and keep, you know, doing stuff like this, it's a lot less stressful.

01:23:37.000 It's a lot more fun and engaging.

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 And it requires me to like, I'm not as, like so much time is consumed on my other show, which is an hour and 45 minutes a day of political commentary and various news stories.

01:23:49.000 And that's a lot harder to produce and it's tough, but.

01:23:53.000 It's funny, I do the opposite.

01:23:54.000 So for me, coming here, you're right, easy, easy to not have to prepare a whole lot.

01:24:01.000 For my interview show, I spend probably 10 hours preparing for each interview.

01:24:07.000 Read their latest book, read their latest commentary, be up to speed.

01:24:10.000 and go slow and like get into it and I wish I could put out two or three of those a week but I can only do them in bursts like eight and ten at a time over like two or three weeks and then I'm just exhausted because it's so much work.

01:24:22.000 I love it though, not complaining.

01:24:23.000 So here's the other thing.

01:24:25.000 When I was covering stuff on the ground, I would walk like 10 miles, 20 miles a day in some instances.

01:24:29.000 It was great.

01:24:30.000 I was doing parkour, like no joke.

01:24:31.000 During Occupy Wall Street, what made me effective in live streaming Was that I could run through a packed crowd.

01:24:38.000 You get a packed crowd of a thousand protesters in the street.

01:24:40.000 And I could move through it as if there was no one there.

01:24:43.000 Because I was like jumping left to right.

01:24:45.000 Crouching.

01:24:46.000 Going under people's arms and stuff.

01:24:48.000 And then finding the spaces.

01:24:49.000 Jumping over things.

01:24:51.000 And then you spend so much time the past couple years just sitting in a chair all day every day.

01:24:55.000 I'm trying to skate as much as possible.

01:24:56.000 But man is it... It just feels bad.

01:24:59.000 I've been extremely physically active my whole life.

01:25:03.000 skateboarding since I was younger and So I just skate eight hours a day just endlessly

01:25:08.000 Just gaunt and covered in sweat not able to eat I see like I used to eat a ridiculous amount like 10,000

01:25:13.000 calories a day just to keep up with skating That's how intense it was now. I'm sitting in a chair and

01:25:18.000 it's like this is awful You know, it's just it's too much

01:25:20.000 but the problem is I Can't even go to the DMV to get like my license updated

01:25:25.000 because I work literally until 430 from the morning And then I eat get some exercise and then prepare for this

01:25:30.000 show and I'm like that's not that's not not that's untenable at a certain point.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, it was it was.

01:25:36.000 It worked out for the past two years because we had the midterms until the 2020 election, but now I'm like, you mentioned that music video, right?

01:25:43.000 I wrote that song, I wrote the story, the music video, everything it's based on, I executive produced it, so basically the animation directors, the animators in the studio who put it together, they did a bunch of brilliant stuff like the color changes, each different political faction has a different color, but basically they'd send it back to me and say here's what we need to do, here's what we need to do, so one of the things we did was They they added something that's really interesting at one point in at the last verse as a science on the TV It says don't trust the wolf something They just added and then I said make the kid holding a stuffed wolf animal in the under the bed So now it's like yeah, and so basically

01:26:21.000 I came to them with a story, I dictated it, Nishiro recorded me telling the story of what the song's gonna be, basically what it is, and then I performed it, wrote the lyrics, and then helped produce the video.

01:26:34.000 There's a ton of other ideas I have for a bunch of really great short films and documentary stuff that I've never been able to produce.

01:26:41.000 So at a certain point, if I want to actually expand, I have to stop hyper-focusing in one area, pull back, and then dedicate more time in another area.

01:26:50.000 So if I do only two of these segments a day instead of six, my show would be cut down to about...

01:26:58.000 Uh, my main podcast would be about 50 minutes.

01:27:01.000 50 to 55 minutes, down from an hour and 45.

01:27:05.000 This show would be exactly the same, but that means I could finish up way earlier, and that means I can spend more time shooting the vlog content, selling merch, making cool stuff, playing with lasers and gadgets.

01:27:17.000 Also, though, hiring people to do documentary films, like doing legit long-form documentary stuff, real impactful stuff.

01:27:24.000 Sending out a crew to go and cover a big political issue and giving them like a decent budget and stuff that requires oversight So that's kind of the part of the plan moving into management Tim.

01:27:35.000 I mean To a degree.

01:27:37.000 Yeah.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, so it's it's like I mean what it's it's that's what happens Well, it's not that's what it happens like man It's just like I hit I'm at this point where if I just do the exact same thing I do every day six segments then this show that's the plateau and How do you expand beyond that?

01:27:54.000 You can't.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, you can't.

01:27:55.000 If I'm the person who's physically doing it all, I can't hire someone to do commentary for me.

01:27:59.000 I can't be like, you know, hey, you talk fast here, come sit here and record this segment for me, I'm gonna leave.

01:28:03.000 I can create a channel where we have a variety of hosts who do certain things, so there's definitely plans for more content, but that means I have to free up some of the time throughout the day to bring on more people to do more stuff.

01:28:13.000 And so part of it is, I'm gonna have more time to, for one, Exercise, skate, but we're going to film that and we're going to use that for a brand and merchandise and just having fun.

01:28:13.000 Yeah.

01:28:24.000 And at the same time, that's, you know, I could I could still theoretically do all that right now because I have that about hour every day.

01:28:31.000 But then I want to do like that music video.

01:28:33.000 Need time to record music.

01:28:34.000 More importantly, though, I got some really great ideas for short films and documentaries.

01:28:38.000 You got to expand your creative horizons and make time.

01:28:42.000 We got to we got to launch the So here's what I've been saying to people for a long time.

01:28:45.000 COVID caused this problem.

01:28:48.000 It was two years ago.

01:28:50.000 The plan was to launch an actual brand and then COVID happened and everything went and just like was a sledgehammer to all the plans.

01:28:57.000 Tim Pool stops at a certain point.

01:29:00.000 You know, I've gotten beautiful offers from big companies that would have set me up for life.

01:29:06.000 And I'm like, yeah, but, you know, I gotta be honest, like, I don't think, I think a lot of people who work at some of these companies who, so I've been to these big podcasting companies and they're like, here's what we're offering you.

01:29:16.000 And I'm like, I don't think you're as good as business as I am.

01:29:19.000 You're as good at business as I am.

01:29:21.000 I think if I was in charge of this with no contracts and nothing holding me down, I'd make way more money.

01:29:26.000 So at a certain point, I need to create a brand that can house more than just me and my name.

01:29:33.000 So I can bring on people who I think have talent, who need a place to get that, you know, step up opportunity or whatever.

01:29:39.000 People who are really good at something, but don't know how to get that path forward.

01:29:43.000 So you're a capitalist in the capital sense of the word at this point.

01:29:47.000 Not that you weren't, but I'm saying, but I'm saying moving, moving to, you know, trading your labor for using your capital and putting that to work.

01:29:55.000 Yeah, I know a lot of people who have some skills that they probably can't market.

01:30:00.000 It's how skateboarding works, for instance.

01:30:03.000 Pro skateboarders are struggling right now because the industry has changed dramatically.

01:30:07.000 It used to be you got a sponsorship from a company.

01:30:11.000 You say you go pro.

01:30:11.000 You have your pro model.

01:30:12.000 It's a board with your name on it.

01:30:14.000 That board is sold in stores and you get, you know, a dollar every time a board sells.

01:30:18.000 But you might sell a lot all over the country with millions of skateboarders, tens of millions, you know, or more.

01:30:23.000 You might sell a decent amount and you're gonna get paid well.

01:30:24.000 But you also have magazine spots, they call it photo incentive.

01:30:27.000 So if you appear in a magazine doing a trick and you can see the board, they cut you a check for 500 bucks right on the spot.

01:30:34.000 Well, it's changed now.

01:30:35.000 Nobody reads magazines.

01:30:36.000 They used to put out promo videos, like, the video drops at this point.

01:30:39.000 They still kinda do.

01:30:40.000 They still do.

01:30:41.000 But Instagram happened.

01:30:42.000 YouTube happened.

01:30:43.000 Now, the highest-paid, professional skateboarders, in the truest sense of the word, are not even that good.

01:30:48.000 They're just fun to hang out with.

01:30:50.000 So you watch their video, and it's a dude who can skate and his buddies, and they're doing funny things and having a good time.

01:30:54.000 And it's entertaining.

01:30:56.000 And they sell way more boards than some of the biggest companies that were, like, the pro and best skaters.

01:31:00.000 Yeah.

01:31:01.000 So, but pro skaters don't know how to, they don't know how to, you know, actually sell the value of their skills.

01:31:08.000 Right.

01:31:08.000 And so what happens is a company says, we know that if we film you, we're going to sell boards.

01:31:14.000 So you don't got to worry about it.

01:31:16.000 Otherwise you don't make any money at all.

01:31:18.000 Right.

01:31:18.000 That's capitalism.

01:31:19.000 Right.

01:31:19.000 You know, I think the left doesn't understand that you can't just take a skateboard and be like, we're going to pay you.

01:31:22.000 But North Korea does. 0.92

01:31:24.000 No, for real.

01:31:24.000 They have like, this is the craziest thing about North Korea.

01:31:26.000 They have skate parks and their kids who are told like your job will be to be able to be a skateboarder and that we'll make sure you always have your board and you go to the skate park and you skate and get good.

01:31:35.000 That's crazy.

01:31:36.000 Anyway, the point is.

01:31:38.000 But Tim, I think the moral of the story here for you is in today's day and age, and especially with the audience that you've built already, do what's fun.

01:31:47.000 And your audience is going to go with you.

01:31:49.000 Well, I mean, there's no obligation.

01:31:51.000 Oh, they support you.

01:31:53.000 They love you, dude.

01:31:53.000 That's what I mean.

01:31:54.000 There's a lot that do, and there's a lot that just casually watch, for sure.

01:31:57.000 But I think the point is, regardless, figure out a way to do it.

01:32:02.000 Do your thing.

01:32:03.000 So it's really funny, because I got people smack-talking me.

01:32:06.000 They're always talking smack.

01:32:09.000 As if, as if somehow I all of a sudden one day came into money and I was like, dude, I used to work for Disney.

01:32:14.000 Like, this was six years ago I worked for Disney.

01:32:16.000 Do you think they pay nothing?

01:32:17.000 Like, no. 1.00

01:32:18.000 Disney paid stupid money. 1.00

01:32:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:32:19.000 Like, uh, there, there was one instance where, uh, I'm just gonna, I'll just come on and say it cause I got no problem talking about it. 1.00

01:32:25.000 I was trying to break my contract because they went full SJW and I was like, I don't produce this stuff.

01:32:29.000 And one day I woke up with $40,000 in my bank account.

01:32:32.000 I was like, what is this?

01:32:33.000 And they were like, oh, it's, it's your bonus.

01:32:35.000 And I was like, for what?

01:32:36.000 Like, I'm not doing what you want me to do.

01:32:38.000 They were like, you know, just, uh, just, uh, and I'm like, uh-huh.

01:32:41.000 Sure.

01:32:42.000 And then sure enough, it came time for my contract.

01:32:44.000 My contract.

01:32:45.000 Yeah.

01:32:46.000 It was, it was.

01:32:47.000 Let's grease the wheels a little bit, buddy.

01:32:49.000 Why don't you produce some of this progressive SJW, whatever.

01:32:52.000 And I'm like.

01:32:54.000 And so then when my contract came due, they were like, so, and I was like, so, and they're like, okay, um, have a nice day.

01:33:01.000 And I'm like, later.

01:33:03.000 So, so I've, I, you know, and I had to figure out like, uh, I've, I've saved a bunch of money over the years working hard every day.

01:33:09.000 Every day, consistent, hardest working man in this whole medium.

01:33:13.000 I say it all the time.

01:33:14.000 So I started, I started a business.

01:33:16.000 I started YouTube and I flew to Europe and I flew to Sweden and that cost a lot of money.

01:33:20.000 I didn't make that money back for a while.

01:33:22.000 So I had this money saved up.

01:33:23.000 I invested it and I started doing that, went down that route and then started doing more and more.

01:33:28.000 And it's funny because people think like we bought this really, I bought this really big house and people are like, wow, Tim must've won the lotto.

01:33:33.000 I'm like, dude, I was trying to buy this property a year and a half ago and then COVID happened.

01:33:37.000 So it was a year and a few months ago, I was touring buildings, trying to find it.

01:33:43.000 Our sale fell through, and then winter hit and made everything really hard to go and check things out.

01:33:48.000 But then when COVID happened, it was like, that was the end of it.

01:33:51.000 So then when it came to, at a certain point, we were on a hiatus for four or five months.

01:33:56.000 I was like, no, we got to force this through by whatever means necessary.

01:34:01.000 Because otherwise we're just sitting here doing nothing and it's the same thing every single day.

01:34:04.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 Now we have the house.

01:34:05.000 We're not quite set up.

01:34:06.000 I got good news.

01:34:07.000 What's that?

01:34:07.000 Gigabit internet will be here in three weeks.

01:34:10.000 Lit.

01:34:11.000 Gigabit.

01:34:12.000 So no more internet cutting out when we do shows.

01:34:15.000 Or can I tell them this?

01:34:18.000 Tim texted me a couple weeks ago.

01:34:20.000 He's like, Dude, you have good internet?

01:34:22.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I got good internet.

01:34:25.000 He's like, can I give you an 83 gigabit file to upload?

01:34:29.000 He's going to drive it to my house so that we can upload my 75 up and down.

01:34:33.000 And now, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:35.000 So, uh, I had, I had, I had it driven to Philly where we have gigabit.

01:34:40.000 It was faster because it would have taken, so I set it to upload overnight.

01:34:43.000 It's like 15 hours to upload and then it crashed.

01:34:46.000 The browser crashed and I'm like, so I tried it again.

01:34:49.000 Whatever.

01:34:49.000 Browser crashed.

01:34:51.000 Faster to drive there and back.

01:34:53.000 Drive there, upload it, and drive back.

01:34:54.000 It was like four or so hours to drive there, but then it uploads in ten minutes.

01:34:58.000 Right.

01:34:59.000 So it's just like, might as well just send someone out.

01:35:02.000 That was the Sunday special with Ben Shapiro, which is really funny because a lot of these lefties who are the leftist YouTube people, they're, man, I gotta say, they're low information people.

01:35:13.000 They're not good at connecting the dots.

01:35:15.000 And I don't know if it's just the active Twitter people who do it or whatever, but they're like, they're spreading this meme around that I refuse to have people on my show because we don't have good enough internet or something like that.

01:35:24.000 I don't do Skype, but that I did a Skype with Ben Shapiro and I'm like, I didn't.

01:35:29.000 I recorded it hard to the camera.

01:35:32.000 And then I sent the file to be uploaded.

01:35:35.000 It was like, I'm honored, I thought it was a good show, but it was like, we did a standard call, low-res, not-broadcast-quality conversation where I could hear him, and then he would ask and then I would answer.

01:35:49.000 And then I took the hard file and had to upload it because it was... Long story short, first of all, we don't have actually... Is there a screen anywhere in front of you, Jay?

01:35:57.000 No screen.

01:35:57.000 Sometimes I wish there was.

01:35:59.000 I have this little monitor down here.

01:36:00.000 I have this little monitor down here and we have multiple people and we're not set up in any way for Skyping and the internet can't handle two streams up and down.

01:36:10.000 It's bad enough that our internet cuts out.

01:36:11.000 Could you imagine if in the middle of it, our guest cuts out, we can't come back?

01:36:13.000 No.

01:36:14.000 So I'm just like, dude, we're not designed for that, but I'll tell you something else, man.

01:36:17.000 Online interviews are a waste of time.

01:36:19.000 I'll get out of here, dude.

01:36:20.000 It's my bread and butter, and I think I've gotten really good at them.

01:36:23.000 He makes it work.

01:36:24.000 Well, okay, fine.

01:36:25.000 To be fair, there is a big difference between, like, we're talking and I can see it in your eyes, I can see it in your face.

01:36:35.000 You might be like, wait, wait, wait, hold on, you'll interrupt me.

01:36:37.000 When it comes to online stuff, it's like, I ask, you answer.

01:36:39.000 I wait, you ask, I answer.

01:36:41.000 I wait.

01:36:43.000 It's good for probably an interview on facts and data and stuff like that.

01:36:47.000 But when it comes to having a real conversation, there's nothing that beats sitting down with people.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

01:36:53.000 In-person is very good.

01:36:54.000 That said, I think, you know, in my defense, Jack, reveal it live on YouTube, baby!

01:36:59.000 I can, I think, reach a good creative spot with somebody on a remote interview like that.

01:37:07.000 Well, I think you've done, like the thing you did with Matt Brainerd was significant, was important.

01:37:11.000 That interview on, you know, so that's the Voter Integrity Fund finding actual evidence and looking at the data.

01:37:17.000 So, you know, it's better to do it than, you know, if you can't get someone in person, do it, right?

01:37:21.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:37:22.000 You know, the sound quality must have been really good when you did it the way that you had done it, because you had hard live recordings in each places, and then they just merged.

01:37:28.000 The video, everything was pristine, perfect quality.

01:37:31.000 And I'm like, did you not realize that I had a 4K video, no artifacting, perfect audio, it was 83 gigs, and then we sent it out for upload, and then they edited them together.

01:37:42.000 Yeah, some people notice, they're like, yeah, I realize it sounded like you were giving your answers to specific questions.

01:37:48.000 I'm like, right, because that's the only way we could really do it.

01:37:54.000 I guess the other issue too is like, first of all, I don't go on anybody's shows, but I made an exception for Ben Shapiro, because he's Ben Shapiro, it's a big show, and I've interviewed him in the past, and so he hit me up, and I was like, yeah, okay.

01:38:08.000 But there's a lot of shows, I won't go on people's shows for the most part.

01:38:12.000 I got very little time at all, and so that was it.

01:38:16.000 I woke up at 8.

01:38:16.000 I'm sorry, I woke up at 7, reading the news, start recording, start my research from 8 to 4.30, recording and everything, and then from 4.30 until 6 or whatever, it was setting up and doing the recording for Ben.

01:38:31.000 Then once I was done, I grabbed a bite to eat, came upstairs, and we did the next show.

01:38:34.000 Grinding, grinding, grinding.

01:38:36.000 It's one of the reasons I don't do other people's shows.

01:38:38.000 One thing you've been talking about, which I think is good for people to remember, is you have to be very mindful with your time.

01:38:44.000 You have to be very deliberate with your decisions around your time and time management.

01:38:50.000 I personally have been working to try to make sure that I say no to enough things so that I can say yes to the things that are important to me.

01:38:58.000 I've had some pretty big shows, and I'm just like, Yeah, I can't do it.

01:39:03.000 The traditional ones, I used to ignore.

01:39:05.000 Like, when I get hit up by, like, you know, Fox News, I don't want to call them out, but I'm just like, there's literally no upside for me to spend my time.

01:39:15.000 Like, if you want to offer me a hard contributorship, they pay millions of dollars, some of these people.

01:39:19.000 It's insane to get a guarantee.

01:39:21.000 Like, if we hit you up at this time, you got to come on.

01:39:23.000 But I wouldn't do any of those deals, man.

01:39:24.000 I think it's a bad idea.

01:39:26.000 If I had, you know, a podcast network, I've had them come at me, and I've had networks be like, Massive, massive offers.

01:39:35.000 You know, just like, rich for life kind of offers.

01:39:37.000 And I'm like, nah.

01:39:39.000 It's not worth it.

01:39:40.000 It's not.

01:39:40.000 I wouldn't do it.

01:39:41.000 I went down that route with Disney and it was a mistake.

01:39:45.000 So, you know, we'll see how it plays out for, you know, there's some other shows that took big deals.

01:39:52.000 Not going to mention any names.

01:39:54.000 No, but, uh, you know, I think, I kind of feel like, I mean, no, sure, I'll say it.

01:40:00.000 I mean, it's pointless not to, but I think, you know, I think Joe Rogan took the Spotify deal because what the Wall Street Journal reported was like a hundred million dollars.

01:40:06.000 Yeah.

01:40:07.000 I think it's going to, it's going to slice away the overwhelming majority of his audience.

01:40:11.000 On December 1st, Joe Rogan is going exclusive on Spotify.

01:40:15.000 So he's going to, he's going to be, it's going to be a major boost to Spotify.

01:40:20.000 But he's going to be off iTunes.

01:40:21.000 You know what happens when someone for the first time opens the iTunes app to find a podcast?

01:40:26.000 Of course.

01:40:26.000 Joe Rogan.

01:40:27.000 That's the best real estate in the podcasting world that he's losing.

01:40:30.000 But for good reason, I mean.

01:40:34.000 Yeah.

01:40:35.000 But there is an analogous situation here in broadcasting history, if you remember.

01:40:41.000 Howard Stern.

01:40:42.000 What's he doing?

01:40:45.000 He's still rich, right?

01:40:47.000 A wildly popular AM radio host on public broadcast FM radio.

01:40:52.000 And then XM, right?

01:40:54.000 Sirius, I think.

01:40:54.000 Or was it Sirius?

01:40:55.000 One of them.

01:40:56.000 They're now the same.

01:40:59.000 Hired him away into this walled-off pay-per-prescription.

01:41:02.000 And I think that they were pretty pleased that they did that.

01:41:05.000 He made a ton of money.

01:41:06.000 He was uncensored in a way that he was.

01:41:08.000 Couldn't have been on the public radio, broadcast radio rather.

01:41:12.000 And what did it do for his career?

01:41:14.000 It made him wealthy, but did it make him have wider reach, more narrow reach?

01:41:18.000 No, but you know, for me, I'd call it retirement.

01:41:22.000 Is he still even doing it?

01:41:24.000 He is.

01:41:24.000 And he's super anti-Trump and he's super pro-establishment.

01:41:27.000 He's apologized for being, you know, off color and stuff.

01:41:30.000 He's really just become this, you know, vanilla yogurt, boring, you know.

01:41:33.000 I don't listen to his show to be honest, but I was reading some articles.

01:41:37.000 Oh yeah, he's apologized for a ton of things.

01:41:38.000 He's denied saying some of the things he's said in the past.

01:41:41.000 He was a shock jock.

01:41:41.000 He was THE shock jock.

01:41:44.000 I look at it this way, man.

01:41:45.000 If somebody takes a massive payout to do that big jump, for me, in my personal opinion, and I mean no disrespect to Howard Stern or Joe, I look at it like it's a retirement.

01:41:56.000 It's like, you do this hard work, you do it for a long time, you reach the top of the mountain, what do you do?

01:42:01.000 Someone comes along and says, we're gonna cash out your chips.

01:42:04.000 A hundred million bucks.

01:42:05.000 Yeah.

01:42:05.000 Okay.

01:42:06.000 Yeah.

01:42:06.000 I'm done, man.

01:42:07.000 I'm, I'm, I beat the casino.

01:42:08.000 I'm ready to go now.

01:42:10.000 I can hang out, but to be fair though, like Joe got the best pop, like one of the best deals in the world.

01:42:16.000 He's getting a wall street general report.

01:42:18.000 I don't, I don't, I'm assuming that their, their, their data, you know, their facts are straight.

01:42:21.000 They said a hundred million bucks and now he doesn't got to worry about getting banned.

01:42:25.000 Dude.

01:42:25.000 Wow.

01:42:26.000 Is that really accurate?

01:42:28.000 I mean, I suppose the contract is so big that they're not going to cancel him due to internal pressure.

01:42:32.000 I kind of feel like, I wonder if in his contract it says, if they sever, he gets to pay out.

01:42:39.000 Because then it's kind of like, ban me.

01:42:40.000 Do it.

01:42:41.000 Because then I'm free and I get the money anyway.

01:42:44.000 He'd be pushing that for sure.

01:42:46.000 It's just an interesting thing to think about, sort of setting up a walled garden around your content and what is the goal of what you're doing.

01:42:53.000 I mean, I remember listening to the Joe Rogan podcast back when there was just, it was just this tripped out weird intro and they were just talking about MMA and his comedian friends and that was it.

01:43:05.000 Do you know the story?

01:43:06.000 The Joe Rogan, Tim Pool story?

01:43:08.000 I mean, which one?

01:43:09.000 The original, like, how it all went down.

01:43:11.000 No, this is a great story.

01:43:14.000 So during Occupy Wall Street, like a month after Occupy.

01:43:18.000 Drinking game with Occupy Wall Street.

01:43:20.000 So after it was like a month after they shut down the park.

01:43:24.000 So it still existed.

01:43:25.000 Joe's podcast was on Ustream, I think, and he was getting like decent viewership.

01:43:29.000 But it was just like the Joe Grant experience on Ustream.

01:43:32.000 It was, you know, and so people were tweeting at him.

01:43:34.000 You got to have Tim Pool on your show.

01:43:36.000 And so he tweeted at me something like, yeah man, I'm down, let's make it happen.

01:43:40.000 We DM'd, and then I was like, super excited.

01:43:44.000 And so, I wasn't trying to push it, because I was, I think I was 25, and I'm like, this is gonna be awesome, Joe Rogan's a famous comedian.

01:43:52.000 So I bought a plane ticket, and I said, okay, he's booked me, he's told me where to be, he's told me the time.

01:43:58.000 I got on the plane, I fly to LA.

01:44:00.000 As soon as I land, my phone goes meh.

01:44:02.000 Sorry dude, I can't do it, we got something come up.

01:44:05.000 And I was like, ugh.

01:44:07.000 You know what, man?

01:44:09.000 I can't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor.

01:44:11.000 But I was smart about it, and I said, there's an event, a protest happening in L.A., so I definitely have something I can do while I'm here, and I can hang out with people, so it was a bummer.

01:44:19.000 And a year goes by, and people are tweeting at Joe again, like, dude, you gotta get on Tim Pullen, now it's 2012.

01:44:25.000 And he tweets at me, and he's like, you know, we tried doing it last year, and it didn't work out.

01:44:31.000 And I was like, yeah, let's do it, man, for sure.

01:44:31.000 What do you say, man?

01:44:34.000 And he's like, all right, let's do it.

01:44:35.000 So, uh, again, tells me the time, tells me the place.

01:44:38.000 I get on the plane.

01:44:40.000 I land.

01:44:41.000 Can't do it.

01:44:41.000 Sorry, dude.

01:44:43.000 And then he had, he still had a show.

01:44:44.000 He just bumped me for other people.

01:44:46.000 He, he bumped me for other people. 1.00

01:44:48.000 What a dick. 1.00

01:44:50.000 And so, uh, he double, he double booked you. 1.00

01:44:54.000 You flew across the country.

01:44:55.000 Well, it was the first time then a year later.

01:44:57.000 Dick move. 0.98

01:44:59.000 This was back, it was less formal, and I was at a point in my career where I was like, I have to take that risk.

01:45:05.000 Totally.

01:45:06.000 You know, it's like, if he bumps me, it's like, I can't sit here and be like, cover my costs, do this.

01:45:12.000 And I was like, no, I'm at that point.

01:45:13.000 Like, I'm not, I think I had like 13,000 Twitter followers.

01:45:17.000 But I had enough people following my live on the ground reporting that, you know, it got his attention.

01:45:21.000 And so that was it.

01:45:23.000 I was pissed.

01:45:23.000 And I DM'd him.

01:45:24.000 I was like, bro, how are you doing this?

01:45:25.000 Are you kidding me, dude?

01:45:26.000 This is the second time I flew out here?

01:45:28.000 And then he just didn't respond.

01:45:30.000 And I was like, whatever, man.

01:45:32.000 I'm over it.

01:45:33.000 I'm over it.

01:45:33.000 And so that was it for a couple years.

01:45:37.000 And then, I guess, he just one day hit me up and was like, bro, I'm so sorry about how that went down.

01:45:44.000 I guess he was saying he didn't realize, because for him it was like he does his show and it doesn't matter.

01:45:50.000 He didn't realize I'm some dude trying to come out, all excited.

01:45:54.000 And so he apologized and asked me to come.

01:45:56.000 He's like, if you ever want to come to one of my shows, man, just let me know.

01:45:58.000 And so I was in Philly, and I was like, are you in Philly anytime soon?

01:46:03.000 He's like, oh dude, I'm in Philly next week.

01:46:05.000 And I was like, bro.

01:46:06.000 And he was like, dude, come on down.

01:46:07.000 Went down to his show and then, uh, his show was amazing.

01:46:12.000 Yeah.

01:46:12.000 And then he invited us backstage and hung out and he was like, I'm sorry about that.

01:46:15.000 It was basically just like, like I said, you know, for him, he's this famous media and he does his thing and it was kind of nonchalant.

01:46:21.000 Like he didn't think it mattered.

01:46:22.000 And for me, I'm like this, you know, hungry young break.

01:46:25.000 Yeah.

01:46:25.000 This hungry young dude, like super excited.

01:46:27.000 And then it wasn't him trying to screw me over.

01:46:29.000 It was just like.

01:46:31.000 It was, it was something came up and he didn't, he was like, whatever.

01:46:34.000 It would have been like getting booked for Carson and you know, in like the seventies or the eighties, Johnny Carson.

01:46:39.000 And you're like in the green room ready to go on.

01:46:41.000 And they're just like, nah.

01:46:44.000 But, uh, you know, but he was like, dude, I didn't realize you were flying out for this, man.

01:46:47.000 Like, I feel so bad.

01:46:48.000 He's like, you know, and then he's apologized.

01:46:50.000 But then, uh, something funny happened.

01:46:52.000 Um.

01:46:53.000 I did a video about his Jack Dorsey podcast.

01:46:56.000 Yeah.

01:46:56.000 That got like major downvotes.

01:46:58.000 And I did like a 10 or 13 minute segment or something.

01:47:02.000 He auto copyright claimed it.

01:47:04.000 So I get a notification for a copyright claim that all my revenue is not going to go to this company.

01:47:10.000 And so I DM'd him like, yo, hey man, like, I think, I think it was automatic because I showed a screenshot of the podcast.

01:47:17.000 And then he was like, oh, sorry about that.

01:47:19.000 Let me, let me take care of it.

01:47:20.000 Then he comes back like 15 minutes later, he's like, Hey man, you made some really good points.

01:47:23.000 Can I, can I call you right now?

01:47:24.000 And I was like, all right, sure.

01:47:26.000 And so he calls me and we talked about just like what I had said in my segment about Twitter and the censorship and what was going on.

01:47:34.000 And he was like, man.

01:47:35.000 Man, yeah.

01:47:36.000 He's like, you know what, man?

01:47:37.000 I owe you.

01:47:37.000 You gotta come on the show sometime.

01:47:38.000 We'll figure it out.

01:47:39.000 We'll figure it out.

01:47:39.000 I'm like, yeah, yeah, no problem.

01:47:40.000 He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:41.000 We'll figure it out.

01:47:41.000 He's like, dude, I really appreciate this, like, you know, helping me understand what's going on Twitter and stuff.

01:47:45.000 I was like, for sure.

01:47:46.000 So I'm sitting there in my shorts.

01:47:47.000 I'm playing World of Warcraft.

01:47:49.000 And then my phone rings.

01:47:50.000 And I'm like, it was Joe Rogan.

01:47:51.000 And I'm like, hello?

01:47:53.000 And then he goes, do you want to come on the show on Friday?

01:47:56.000 And it was Wednesday.

01:47:56.000 And I was like, I gotta... Like, this Friday?

01:48:00.000 I gotta fly tomorrow?

01:48:01.000 He's like, yeah.

01:48:01.000 I was like, All right.

01:48:04.000 Like, I guess so.

01:48:05.000 And then from there, it just kind of fell into place.

01:48:08.000 The Twitter thing with Jack Dorsey, which I got.

01:48:10.000 So basically, after we did that show, he was like, we got to do something crazy and don't tell anybody.

01:48:15.000 We're going to try and see if we can pull it off.

01:48:16.000 I don't know if it'll happen.

01:48:17.000 Don't don't say, you know, if we talk about it, you know, people will probably jinx it.

01:48:21.000 So we'll just see if it happens.

01:48:23.000 And then you get a call.

01:48:24.000 Come out.

01:48:25.000 We're going to do this thing.

01:48:26.000 And I was like, It's like, I'm going to sit in front of CEO of Twitter and their lawyer.

01:48:31.000 And I was like, whatever, man, dude, you were on point.

01:48:33.000 I watched that one.

01:48:34.000 You were on point.

01:48:35.000 I didn't prepare.

01:48:36.000 Like I didn't, I didn't do any like extra, extra.

01:48:38.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 Like I didn't sit down until like, okay, here's what I talk about.

01:48:41.000 I was just like, yeah, tell me where to sit.

01:48:43.000 You knew all this stuff already.

01:48:44.000 It's all in your head.

01:48:45.000 You know, after the fact, I was like, oh, there's a couple of things I could have done better, but whatever.

01:48:50.000 I'm not, I wasn't there for anybody, but you know, I wasn't there for, for, for other people.

01:48:54.000 I was there because there was a lot of things I was angry about, a lot of things I had seen that I wanted to talk about.

01:48:59.000 So it didn't, wasn't an issue, but I do think they thought it was going to be, why did you ban Alex Jones?

01:49:05.000 And they're going to be like, because he said this, and I would go.

01:49:09.000 No, it was like there's a deeper philosophical questions about what does it mean to break the rules?

01:49:13.000 What's the political perception on your rules?

01:49:16.000 And who made you the arbiter of what's acceptable politics and stuff like that?

01:49:20.000 Yeah, and it was clear, too, that they seemed to be learning things from you at that time, and they don't know exactly what's all going on inside of their big corporation.

01:49:28.000 Nothing's changed.

01:49:29.000 Nothing's changed.

01:49:29.000 I have a similar story about getting bumped several times.

01:49:33.000 Dave Rubin has asked me to come on his show three times now.

01:49:37.000 I did not fly out, luckily, but it's always like, all right, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, and then something happens.

01:49:43.000 Let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, and then something happens.

01:49:45.000 And it's fine.

01:49:46.000 That's how it works.

01:49:46.000 The game works.

01:49:48.000 I did a live stream in like 2016, I think, because people had asked me about what had happened with Joe Rogan.

01:49:55.000 And so I did a stream explaining what happened and I just said, listen, man, I'm not mad at anybody because I can't get mad at someone for not doing me a favor.

01:50:01.000 Like him offering me up this show.

01:50:03.000 I was like, flying out to LA the second time and getting bumped is mildly perturbing.

01:50:09.000 I was mildly perturbed, to put it that way.

01:50:12.000 But at the same time, it's like, I took the risk.

01:50:16.000 I took the shot.

01:50:16.000 It didn't happen.

01:50:17.000 I'm not gonna be mad at anybody.

01:50:18.000 You know, I'm not gonna hold a grudge or anything like that.

01:50:20.000 How do you handle something like that, Tim?

01:50:21.000 What did you do?

01:50:23.000 What'd you do when you get the call?

01:50:24.000 When you get the text?

01:50:25.000 You just landed.

01:50:26.000 Six hour flight. 0.74

01:50:27.000 I DM'd him back like, yo, what WTF?

01:50:30.000 And then I moved on with my life.

01:50:32.000 I was like, I was like, yeah, what do you, the problem was like, I knew who he bummed me for.

01:50:38.000 Who was that?

01:50:38.000 I'm not going to say their name.

01:50:39.000 It was multiple people.

01:50:40.000 But I guess he, I guess like for him, it was like, Business.

01:50:45.000 I got these people.

01:50:45.000 Yeah.

01:50:46.000 I can get them on right now.

01:50:47.000 I better do it.

01:50:48.000 I got to tell him I can't do it.

01:50:49.000 Yeah.

01:50:49.000 And then he didn't know that I flew out.

01:50:51.000 So I, you know, he probably didn't realize.

01:50:52.000 Fair enough.

01:50:54.000 I mean, I thought it was a dick move, but you know, I don't hold it against them.

01:50:58.000 It's just, and this was eight years ago.

01:51:01.000 This was like, his show was not that big.

01:51:03.000 It was just like Ustream.

01:51:04.000 It was like, you know, one of the first podcasts.

01:51:06.000 It sure was.

01:51:07.000 I didn't even realize, I'm like, why am I listening to this?

01:51:10.000 It worked out for me because then he ends up being like, I feel really bad about how that all went down, man.

01:51:14.000 You should come out to my show and then come on the show.

01:51:16.000 And like we ended up doing one of the most significant shows he had, like the sit down with these.

01:51:20.000 Absolutely.

01:51:21.000 And what's interesting to think about it is if he had had you on earlier, it would have been less impactful than you going on later when his audience had grown and his reach had grown such a dramatic effect.

01:51:34.000 So it all worked out in the end, Tim.

01:51:36.000 And now you're talking about skateboarding.

01:51:38.000 Yeah, well, so the last time I went on earlier this year, it was because... I probably shouldn't... There was somebody else who wanted to do a political discussion, left, right, like, you know, me, him, and Joe Rogan, and I'm like, you're still just like... One of the problems with these conversations on Joe's show is often it's liberals and leftists talking about conservatives without bringing a conservative on.

01:52:00.000 He's had on Crowder before, I think, too.

01:52:02.000 But like...

01:52:04.000 The Twitter thing was, you know, Rogan's pretty left, and then I'm, like, left-leaning but, you know, very critical of critical race theory and, you know, like a disaffected liberal type.

01:52:15.000 But there were no hardcore conservatives in a conversation about conservative censorship.

01:52:19.000 So that's that's one of the things, too.

01:52:21.000 So, you know, I went on Rogan's show earlier this year because we were supposed to do like leftist commentator me and Joe and then Covid happened.

01:52:31.000 So the other person was like, I can't I can't make it.

01:52:33.000 And then and so I was like, I'll come whatever.

01:52:36.000 I'll take the van.

01:52:37.000 I got this van.

01:52:37.000 I need to drive it, you know, go drive it.

01:52:39.000 And then we had the white van.

01:52:41.000 I had a guy join the liminal order and I interviewed him just the other day who told me that he first started listening to Joe Rogan, then he heard about you and then he saw me on your show.

01:52:51.000 So the Joe Rogan radicalization funnel is in full effect.

01:52:56.000 Starts with Joe, passes through Tim, ends up with me, radicalized, doing all kinds of man stuff.

01:53:03.000 It's just amazing the way that the network works and how you put out content and people come to you and how This whole web is just being woven all over the country.

01:53:13.000 And you're at the forefront, man.

01:53:14.000 You're pushing things.

01:53:15.000 You're pushing huge numbers and competing with the big guys.

01:53:18.000 We gotta simmer down on politics a lot.

01:53:24.000 I can't announce anything specific, but I'll just say, and you know the details, so don't say anything.

01:53:29.000 We're planning a really big show, which is...

01:53:33.000 It's not going to be political, but it's with someone very political.

01:53:35.000 It's going to get me in trouble.

01:53:36.000 It's going to be fun!

01:53:37.000 But yeah, so we'll, you know, that's in a couple of weeks.

01:53:40.000 I'm just asking for trouble doing what I do.

01:53:43.000 Indeed, well, you've got to have fun.

01:53:44.000 I think you said to me once, just to not be bored.

01:53:47.000 Yeah, so the idea is we're having on some pretty prominent political figures, but we're not going to talk politics.

01:53:54.000 Good.

01:53:55.000 Because one of the things we were talking about, it's like, OK, this is going to be risky.

01:53:59.000 YouTube's like, you know, trigger trigger happy if we if we bring on some controversial figures.

01:54:04.000 But I'm like or so it was proposed to me like we should talk about all these other things outside of, you know, basically once the media shifted to the Trump narrative, it's been Trump talk politics all all day, nonstop.

01:54:16.000 And there are other cultural issues.

01:54:18.000 Yes.

01:54:18.000 That kind of got brushed aside in the past, you know, 10 months or whatever.

01:54:23.000 Five years, even.

01:54:25.000 I am booking a whole new slot of guests for my podcast, Jack Murphy Live on YouTube.

01:54:29.000 And I'm deliberately trying to stay away from politics, history, culture, science, futurism, actors, comedians, like really trying to go with evergreen content back to things that can really help people in their lives rather than just Swing in for the fences with the, you know, brawling in the political sphere.

01:54:49.000 We're all kind of exhausted by that.

01:54:51.000 Yeah.

01:54:51.000 Yup.

01:54:52.000 Election's over.

01:54:52.000 Yup.

01:54:53.000 So, uh, tomorrow I'm going, I did one segment this morning and then I was like, I'm going to take the rest of the day.

01:54:58.000 But we're going to do the show late at night.

01:54:59.000 And then, uh, tomorrow's Thanksgiving, you know, I'm going to have some turkey or something.

01:55:05.000 I have no idea.

01:55:05.000 Whatever.

01:55:06.000 But, uh, we should do some, we should, we should have super chats cause we went a little long, huh?

01:55:09.000 Hello, Super Chats.

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01:55:12.000 Give a little tap. 0.67

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01:55:23.000 Let's read from some of these Super Chats. 0.99

01:55:26.000 Colin P. says, People often need a common enemy to unite against to bring them together.

01:55:30.000 I suggest us PS5 owners gang up on Tim for not having a PS5. 0.95

01:55:35.000 Haha, you PS4 trash. 0.94

01:55:36.000 Yes. 0.99

01:55:37.000 I will have a PS5 in a couple days when it comes in the mail.

01:55:39.000 PS4, more like PSPoor.

01:55:42.000 PS5.

01:55:43.000 All I play is Skater XL and Spelunky anyway.

01:55:46.000 It's pretty straightforward.

01:55:47.000 But it's because I beat Dragon Quest a long time ago and you know I beat Skyrim 50 million times and then Fallout 76 wasn't that good.

01:55:55.000 So I used to play Destiny all the time and The Division.

01:55:59.000 You ever play The Division?

01:55:59.000 You play big games at all?

01:56:00.000 Uh, no, when I was younger, I pioneered the Atari 2600 and ColecoVision and all that.

01:56:06.000 You might like Division.

01:56:08.000 I don't, I don't know where they're at now, Division 2, but it's basically, there's a pandemic causes, you know, basically complete collapse.

01:56:15.000 And then, but the cool thing about it is that- I thought we were getting away from politics.

01:56:19.000 Well, but it's a game where it's like a Tom Clancy game.

01:56:21.000 You play as a special operative, the president enacts presidential directive 51, creating, you know, remnants of the government trying to hold things together.

01:56:29.000 And you're in New York.

01:56:30.000 The first one is New York City.

01:56:31.000 The second one, I think, just went back to New York City.

01:56:33.000 But what's cool is, like, the guns are real guns.

01:56:35.000 Like, you actually find guns and you do mods, and I'm pretty sure, for the most part, they're based on all real guns.

01:56:40.000 So it's like... Yeah, it seems like, you know, a game conservatives would probably get a kick out of.

01:56:44.000 I mean, probably a lot of Clancy games they'd probably like.

01:56:48.000 Charles W. says, holy cow, Twitter just suspended the Republican who chairs the committee that held the hearing on PA's election today.

01:56:54.000 Unbelievable.

01:56:55.000 We were talking about that earlier.

01:56:56.000 Yup.

01:56:58.000 The Hylian Juggalo says, five years been a mental health nightmare. 0.96

01:56:58.000 Let's see. 0.96

01:57:02.000 Friend had psych break from it.

01:57:03.000 He thinks he lives in 9601 down to the tech he has.

01:57:08.000 Talks only about events like Bill's scandals.

01:57:10.000 Stares into space if I bring up any events since 9-11.

01:57:12.000 Wow.

01:57:12.000 Crazy.

01:57:16.000 Scott Bullion says COVID will never go away because Democrats know how to steal elections now.

01:57:22.000 Garrett Crowell says 72% of Republicans will leave the GOP if a Trump party is formed.

01:57:27.000 Trump needs to do this and pick his legislature.

01:57:29.000 Turn the GOP into a second party.

01:57:32.000 I mean, that might result in a conservative split, which gives Democrats a super majority for a long time.

01:57:38.000 Bill Clinton got elected.

01:57:41.000 40 something percent of the vote.

01:57:41.000 Yeah.

01:57:43.000 Wow.

01:57:43.000 Barely.

01:57:45.000 Well, there was also Ross Perot.

01:57:47.000 That's what I mean.

01:57:48.000 It was three parties, and Clinton didn't even win a majority or even come close.

01:57:53.000 Joriam144 says, Found you through Jeremy from the quartering.

01:57:56.000 Been stuck ever since.

01:57:57.000 We just had him on a couple days ago.

01:57:59.000 Yeah.

01:57:59.000 Jeremy's cool, dude.

01:58:01.000 I've known Jeremy for a bit.

01:58:01.000 He's cool.

01:58:03.000 GoneFall says, About the Biden laptop.

01:58:05.000 I saw a post about how the computer repairman closing shop and disappearing amid purported death threats.

01:58:09.000 Your thoughts?

01:58:10.000 I did not hear that.

01:58:11.000 It's what we talked about earlier, man.

01:58:12.000 It's the tactics that leftists use.

01:58:17.000 So you have this judge issuing the injunction on the PA certification.

01:58:21.000 And I'm saying, like, I think, you know, Ian Miles Chong tweeted that judge is probably getting inundated with death threats right now.

01:58:25.000 Right.

01:58:25.000 Remember the judge who, like, the dude showed up to her house and shot her son?

01:58:29.000 Yes!

01:58:30.000 Shot her son and then, like, shot her husband and then took off or whatever? 0.97

01:58:34.000 Dressed like a FedEx guy? 0.67

01:58:35.000 Man, it's like the movies.

01:58:37.000 Crazy stuff.

01:58:38.000 Worse.

01:58:40.000 DemonicSensation says, Heya Tim, Jack and Lids, love the stream.

01:58:43.000 If Trump somehow wins, any thoughts on him standing down and Pence taking over to calm the leftist storm?

01:58:48.000 Not sure if it's possible, but an interesting thought.

01:58:50.000 Hey from Australia, by the way.

01:58:51.000 I don't, I don't think that would calm anybody.

01:58:53.000 Pence would not calm the left at all.

01:58:55.000 Yeah.

01:58:55.000 He's, he like, he's far more conservative.

01:58:58.000 Right.

01:58:58.000 The joke he's yeah.

01:58:59.000 Way more conservative.

01:59:00.000 And the joke was like, if you impeach Trump and convict him, you're going to get Pence.

01:59:04.000 Like, have you thought about that one?

01:59:05.000 Think ahead.

01:59:08.000 Let's see, Jarhead Steve says, if this continues, the bell ringers are going to have to do what we know to do.

01:59:13.000 Semper Fi.

01:59:16.000 Trent Lamalino says, we need to lead a movement to stop giving money to companies that are crooked.

01:59:22.000 List of companies that are anti-America and lead a huge exodus.

01:59:25.000 Boycott with money, not tweets.

01:59:27.000 Yep.

01:59:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:59:30.000 Let's see.

01:59:31.000 John Doe says, greetings.

01:59:32.000 As a Muslim, I'm really happy to see 17 to 30% of us voted Trump.

01:59:36.000 But I think Trump should have courted us with his Mideast peace policy.

01:59:39.000 We heavily voted based on foreign policy, and I wish we would wake up.

01:59:42.000 Happy Thanksgiving.

01:59:43.000 Wow.

01:59:44.000 That's interesting.

01:59:44.000 Yeah, the foreign policy was big for me too.

01:59:46.000 Yeah.

01:59:47.000 It's a high number for Muslims.

01:59:48.000 I didn't know that. 0.95

01:59:49.000 And we know the good news now for the neocons and the warmongers is that with Joe Biden in place, rest assured, they'll be bombing kids in no time.

01:59:57.000 But we'll be nice about it.

01:59:58.000 Yeah, but he'll smile and wink at you and say, Come on, man!

02:00:02.000 And you'll go, I can't be mad at you, Joe.

02:00:05.000 Grandpa Joe, can I play with your leg hairs?

02:00:07.000 I know, right?

02:00:10.000 Ginger Prime says, Hey, Tim, I'm another fence sitter and love the content.

02:00:12.000 And honestly, that being said, I listen to Will of the People every day and want to know when we can get a video and professional version of Words in a Book.

02:00:20.000 That song hits my heart and soul.

02:00:22.000 I guess if, uh, at a certain point, if I... So right now my main channel, my first channel I ever put together was youtube.com slash TimCast.

02:00:30.000 I do one segment.

02:00:31.000 But it's the other channel where I do five.

02:00:34.000 If I wind that down to just one in the morning, and then one at four, I'll have tons of time to... I could record a whole album in a week.

02:00:40.000 Because, like, Nishra is the one who produced the song and did all the arrangement and everything, so... I've got like a thousand songs in there.

02:00:47.000 Do it.

02:00:48.000 I got some really simple poppy ones that people seem to like.

02:00:50.000 They're really just simple pop rock.

02:00:52.000 Maybe like, indie-ish.

02:00:55.000 9TailedFox1000 says, Tim, I am totally convinced the Dems stole the election, and if Trump told the American people to take up arms in his name, I would happily do so.

02:01:04.000 That is a very similar comment that Reuters published, and I think it freaks me out.

02:01:08.000 I don't like the idea.

02:01:10.000 But, uh, I don't know what to say about it.

02:01:12.000 Like, what do you do?

02:01:13.000 Yeah, I I I have no idea sentiment won't go away.

02:01:17.000 It won't go away I don't think Trump is gonna ask anybody to do that I'm pretty sure he's gonna fight it as far as he can in the courts, and then that'll be that shadow government Come on I mean, something's gonna happen.

02:01:31.000 It's not gonna be normal.

02:01:32.000 That's the easiest way to put it.

02:01:33.000 Whatever happens, we are not going back to the normal way things used to be.

02:01:36.000 There's no such thing.

02:01:37.000 It's not gonna happen.

02:01:39.000 Joe Radler says, Tim, sell copies of those paintings of YouTubers you have on your studio walls.

02:01:44.000 Of YouTubers?

02:01:45.000 Can you switch to Ian's camera?

02:01:47.000 Even though he's not here?

02:01:48.000 So, the art you see on the screen is from GPrime85 on Twitter and Instagram.

02:01:54.000 It's George Alexopoulos.

02:01:55.000 We had him on the show last week.

02:01:57.000 But, uh, it's not of YouTubers.

02:01:58.000 It's just creepy, creepy art.

02:02:01.000 It's really good.

02:02:02.000 There's a Joe Biden eating a small child and he has a bunch of them.

02:02:05.000 And, uh, you can check him out at G prime 85 on Instagram to see all the other art he has.

02:02:09.000 But, uh, I think, I don't, I don't know if he sells them, but I, I hit him up and said, dude, we gotta get, you know, full frame of these comics because they're amazing comics.

02:02:18.000 We have one with, uh, Trump, Joe, uh, Joe Rogan and Joe Biden.

02:02:24.000 Captain Spence says we need to start protesting outside police departments, asking them not to enforce lockdowns.

02:02:29.000 We must protect our liberty and rights to assemble.

02:02:31.000 Well, protest as you see fit.

02:02:33.000 I think the most powerful protest, nonviolent civil disobedience, is to just go about your life.

02:02:37.000 Go about your life.

02:02:37.000 Living well is the best revenge.

02:02:39.000 But it's like, just go have to see your family.

02:02:42.000 I'd be safe, you know, but, uh, I can't believe they're like, don't go to Christmas and don't go to Thanksgiving.

02:02:48.000 It's like, I think people love their families more than they're worried about getting sick.

02:02:52.000 Yeah.

02:02:53.000 I, you know, and, and I think the bigger issue is that when Gavin Newsom and other Democrats flaunt the rule, like just disobey their own rules, nobody believes it's serious and it's their fault.

02:03:02.000 They extinguish all credibility with their Corona posture when they accepted and encouraged the protests and the riots this summer.

02:03:10.000 And this public health officials came out and said, racism is more of a public health issue than Corona.

02:03:16.000 Get out there and protest everybody.

02:03:19.000 That was the end of trust, period.

02:03:22.000 If the financial crisis wasn't bad enough in 2008 and nine where nobody took any penalties for the fleecing of the American economy and the stripping of the Treasury.

02:03:32.000 Think about it this way.

02:03:33.000 This is the final straw.

02:03:35.000 This disconnect between public statement and policy and then the private behavior of the

02:03:40.000 officials who are supposed to enact it.

02:03:42.000 And then just the public health officials saying racism is a more important issue.

02:03:46.000 Think about it this way.

02:03:47.000 The left clearly already doesn't believe there's a rule of law.

02:03:50.000 They say we're locked down.

02:03:52.000 Don't do these things.

02:03:52.000 They go out and do it anyway.

02:03:53.000 They go riot and they go protest.

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:55.000 So the fact that they're rioting shows they don't care.

02:03:57.000 They don't care.

02:03:58.000 Then for the right, they're being told, we're going to destroy your businesses, your livelihoods.

02:04:03.000 It's going to take away your jobs.

02:04:05.000 And you can clearly see there's no rule of law because the left is smashing everything up.

02:04:09.000 That's amazing to me.

02:04:10.000 It's almost like we're in, you know, I wonder if we're in a simulation and they're doing an experiment to see at what point conservatives just, like, lean back and then, like, and just go back to work.

02:04:20.000 Here's what's amazing.

02:04:21.000 You actually have people rioting, being cut loose.

02:04:24.000 The DAs let them go.

02:04:26.000 And then conservatives can watch that happen and be like, but I'm not going to sell my t-shirts at my clothing store.

02:04:32.000 It's like the levels of willingness to break the law on the left are just like off the charts and conservatives are all the way at the bottom.

02:04:38.000 OK, but it's important to remember that those Antifa activists and protesters and rioters that deliberately go out and put them.

02:04:44.000 They know their coach that they can get arrested and that they have a defense fund and they have people that are getting them out on bail.

02:04:51.000 There's a system that facilitates that.

02:04:53.000 So it's not necessarily about like, how bold are we?

02:04:56.000 It's, is there an ecosystem with appointed judges and DAs and the whole thing where they know that they're going to be okay?

02:05:05.000 Sure.

02:05:05.000 But imagine if the scale was they would sell donuts at a donut shop versus a conservative selling donuts at a donut shop.

02:05:12.000 That's when you're equal.

02:05:13.000 And them being like, I know I can get away with it.

02:05:15.000 You'd be like, well, they're just selling donuts.

02:05:16.000 No, they've stepped it up to, they've turned the knob up to 11.

02:05:20.000 So they know they can get away with not just breaking COVID lockdown, but literally burning down buildings.

02:05:26.000 Okay.

02:05:26.000 They can't really get away with that.

02:05:27.000 They are getting charged and arrested for that, but they can be part, they can partake in these riots and likely we'll get away with it.

02:05:33.000 And then on the right, they're like, I know that if I open my store, they will throw the book at me and there's nothing I can do about it.

02:05:38.000 Yeah.

02:05:39.000 Unless there was enough of us.

02:05:41.000 If we had like a day.

02:05:43.000 What is the opposite of a strike?

02:05:45.000 That's what we need.

02:05:46.000 We need the opposite of a strike.

02:05:47.000 A work-in.

02:05:49.000 I have come up with a brilliant idea.

02:05:50.000 A national work-in day.

02:05:53.000 And the opposite of a strike.

02:05:54.000 The anti-strike.

02:05:55.000 An anti-strike.

02:05:56.000 Everybody go to work!

02:05:58.000 Go to restaurants.

02:05:59.000 Go to the gym.

02:05:59.000 Go to work.

02:06:00.000 Go see your family.

02:06:01.000 Get outside.

02:06:02.000 Go to church.

02:06:03.000 Just do it.

02:06:03.000 We would overwhelm the system.

02:06:04.000 There's no way we'd be able to enforce it.

02:06:07.000 And then we could have the will.

02:06:08.000 That's the point of non-violent civil disobedience.

02:06:10.000 Yeah.

02:06:10.000 Let's do it.

02:06:11.000 Let's do it.

02:06:11.000 The anti-strike.

02:06:12.000 Well, you gotta... Someone's gotta organize it.

02:06:16.000 That's what the right lacks.

02:06:18.000 The left has it in spades.

02:06:18.000 Organizational power.

02:06:20.000 Tom Mee says I might be wrong but Trump is treading water.

02:06:23.000 Biden will get wrecked if he eventually or actually wins.

02:06:26.000 What do you mean by that?

02:06:28.000 Like Trump is just treading water like he's not trying hard enough?

02:06:32.000 Like he could do more or he's struggling to stay afloat?

02:06:36.000 Maybe he's saying that he thinks Trump is just biding his time because he knows he's going to be victorious.

02:06:41.000 Is that right?

02:06:42.000 Yeah.

02:06:43.000 I don't either, but there, there is a belief that Trump, uh, I've said this before.

02:06:47.000 It seems like Trump's buying time.

02:06:49.000 Like a lot of these lawsuits seem aimless.

02:06:51.000 Like he's just buying time for some reason.

02:06:54.000 No idea.

02:06:56.000 It could be that they're just trying to slow things down and slowly wind things down so that his supporters calm down and then get past it.

02:07:03.000 If they announced the election, boom, one day, and then Trump conceded, people would go nuts.

02:07:09.000 So it's like everything's winding down really slowly to keep the temperature down.

02:07:13.000 I tell you this, if Trump does end up conceding at some point, it's going to be on a Friday at midnight.

02:07:20.000 He's going to tweet something out.

02:07:23.000 That's when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. 0.90

02:07:24.000 It's a weekend, they wake up on Saturday, they don't pay attention to the news,

02:07:24.000 Died.

02:07:26.000 and then it'll be like, oh yeah, Trump conceded last week.

02:07:28.000 And they'll be like, oh really?

02:07:30.000 They always do it like that.

02:07:31.000 They always make big announcements.

02:07:32.000 That's when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. 0.90

02:07:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:35.000 Died.

02:07:36.000 Yeah, but also they announced Joe Biden on Saturday, Saturday, what, Saturday afternoon.

02:07:41.000 So it's a weekend, people aren't paying attention to the news, and then they're like,

02:07:44.000 oh here it is, we announced it.

02:07:46.000 So, you know.

02:07:47.000 Let's see.

02:07:49.000 Joshua Cherkinski says, if you want to know more about Operation Warp Speed, you should reach out to Jose Arrieta, former CIO of HHS and lead data team on COVID Task Force.

02:07:58.000 He's absolutely brilliant and he has been asked by several news outlets for interviews.

02:08:01.000 Cool.

02:08:02.000 Cool.

02:08:03.000 Spork Witch says, it's not a conspiracy. 0.96

02:08:05.000 The left is promoting pedos. 0.95

02:08:08.000 Big story with ASDA having to take down material promoting Love Knows No Age Limit and other pro, you know, pedo propaganda. 0.74

02:08:15.000 That is not an isolated incident.

02:08:17.000 It is found throughout social justice.

02:08:19.000 Like I mentioned, I think it was Snapchat.

02:08:21.000 I could be wrong, you know.

02:08:22.000 Don't sue me, Snapchat.

02:08:24.000 But there was a filter that said, love knows no age.

02:08:26.000 And that's weird.

02:08:28.000 Very weird.

02:08:29.000 Matt Morgan says, combat vet here.

02:08:31.000 After seeing Afghanistan, I hope we can avoid armed conflict.

02:08:34.000 But not at the expense of our rights and constitution.

02:08:36.000 Thank you slash Lydia for giving us politically homeless a voice.

02:08:40.000 Much love.

02:08:41.000 We won't.

02:08:43.000 Joel Stein says Biden et al are being super smug about everything.

02:08:46.000 You think behind closed doors they're a bit worried about the situation?

02:08:49.000 Probably some clenched sphincters hoping Trump concedes.

02:08:54.000 Ernesto Jimenez says, did Tim not do his afternoon shows?

02:08:57.000 It is correct.

02:08:58.000 I did not do them and I won't be doing them tomorrow either.

02:09:01.000 Uh, and then we're gonna sort through, uh, you know, how things are gonna flow out in the future.

02:09:06.000 Cause we got this new skate park built and, uh, definitely want to have events.

02:09:10.000 We have a bunch of stuff ready for cultural stuff.

02:09:14.000 I'll put it this way.

02:09:15.000 You know, what's not, what I think is not necessarily helping?

02:09:19.000 Sitting down and saying like, did you see this thing today? 0.93

02:09:21.000 How dumb was that? 0.92

02:09:22.000 Cause at a certain point people are like, I feel this way. 0.99

02:09:25.000 I'm like, how many times have I said, oh, they're riding again and getting away with it instead of doing something that makes a difference?

02:09:32.000 So I'm not, I'm not a protest organizer, but we're going to put on events and we're going to help build culture, generate culture, art.

02:09:39.000 So, you know, one of the biggest problems the modern, the new right has.

02:09:43.000 Terrible art.

02:09:44.000 The right has always had terrible art.

02:09:46.000 Here's the greatest advantage conservatives have right now.

02:09:49.000 We have a general agreement on fundamental principles in freedom of speech and individual liberty and, you know, the foundation of this country, the Constitution, etc.

02:09:59.000 So even though I am left-leaning independent, left on a lot of economic policy issues and pro-choice and stuff like that, I agree more on a ton of issues that are fundamental to the existence of this country with conservatives.

02:10:13.000 And now, people like me and other artists are now finding themselves being, you know, on the right.

02:10:19.000 Or being told they are, even if they don't agree with the right on every issue.

02:10:22.000 And now, the right is starting to get cultural victories.

02:10:26.000 So Trump was a cultural victory.

02:10:28.000 It was the meme war.

02:10:29.000 All those memes and jokes and internet culture really helped propel him to victory.

02:10:33.000 Now you're going to find, you know, I did that music video.

02:10:35.000 It's really funny because there are a lot of people who hate me who are like, this is actually good.

02:10:40.000 Some people are saying like, man, I hate this guy, but he kind of pulled it off.

02:10:43.000 A lot of haters saying I expect it to be like super cringe, but it's actually kind of good.

02:10:48.000 Agreed.

02:10:49.000 People like it.

02:10:50.000 It's interesting that you're talking about doing stuff with the culture right now, because part of the reason I think that Daily Wire moved to Nashville was because they wanted to expand into the culture.

02:10:57.000 And people like Andrew Klavan who write novels, people like Sean Parnell who write novels, they're a big part of the culture war too.

02:11:03.000 I think that's significant and hopefully we get better movies too.

02:11:06.000 You want to know something crazy?

02:11:07.000 There's a pro skater who got asked to promote a brand and the brand did something critical race theory-ish.

02:11:15.000 And all of the comments from this person's followers were Trump 2020, MAGA, and this dude, he's like early 20s pro skater, was super confused like, what's going on?

02:11:25.000 Like I'm getting flooded with all this MAGA stuff.

02:11:27.000 Jesus.

02:11:27.000 And then the brand asked him to take it down.

02:11:29.000 And he was like, I got no idea, man.

02:11:32.000 I just hope we're super confused.

02:11:34.000 So some, one of the older guys in the industry who was a Trump supporter,

02:11:36.000 skateboarder pro skater grows up.

02:11:39.000 And now he's like, this is why, you know, Trump had to explain

02:11:41.000 to him what was going on.

02:11:42.000 So I just think you've got a lot of people who follow skateboarding.

02:11:47.000 There's a couple people I follow on skateboarding who have decent followings, and they're hardcore MAGA skateboarders.

02:11:53.000 They're fearless.

02:11:54.000 But it's because they've already been cancelled.

02:11:55.000 For some reason or another, their sponsorships ended or something, so they're just like, I'm just gonna say it.

02:12:01.000 But I'll tell you this, man.

02:12:06.000 There's a guy named Brandon Turner, and he's a legend in skateboarding.

02:12:11.000 When he was, I think he was 18, he did a trick called a switch hardflip down something called the Carl's Bad Gap.

02:12:18.000 Basically means he jumped over this really big thing, it's like jumping down a flight of stairs, doing an extremely hard trick.

02:12:26.000 And it was a big deal when he did it.

02:12:28.000 The dude's 38 right now, and did... One of the most mind-blowing tricks.

02:12:33.000 Again, a switch hardflip, that's what it's called.

02:12:35.000 And he did it down something... A massive set of... These huge four stairs.

02:12:40.000 But they're like... It's ridiculously big.

02:12:42.000 They're super long.

02:12:43.000 It's not really stairs.

02:12:44.000 It's called the Wallenberg Gap.

02:12:45.000 And the dude's almost 40.

02:12:48.000 So... Anyway, I forgot where I was going with it.

02:12:51.000 I had to bring it up though, because it's like...

02:12:53.000 I forgot my point.

02:12:54.000 My point was typically that you don't have...

02:12:59.000 High profile individuals.

02:13:02.000 You don't have people who are making content that goes viral in cultural issues like with popular music and with skateboarding who are coming out and being straight up pro-Trump.

02:13:15.000 Right.

02:13:16.000 Well, we're looking at creating children's cartoons, actually, like one to three minute cartoons.

02:13:21.000 Didn't Lauren Southern make a children's book? 0.99

02:13:23.000 I have no idea.

02:13:25.000 I think she did.

02:13:25.000 Did she?

02:13:26.000 Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.

02:13:27.000 You're hallucinating.

02:13:28.000 We're looking at that.

02:13:29.000 We're looking at other ways to influence culture like that and to spread the values out there in the world today for sure.

02:13:36.000 Yeah, and Tim, you know, you're talking about getting out of politics and focus on making change and adding to culture and doing something fun and interesting.

02:13:43.000 That's what I decided to do two years ago and I spend most of my time engaged with the guys in the liminal order and just doing our programming there and actually being a force for good and actually being a force for positive change rather than Just droning on, no offense to me or to you or to any of us about politics all day long.

02:14:00.000 You've said it best where you're like, how many more times can I say, hey, the Democrats did this and it's wrong? 1.00

02:14:06.000 Stupid. 1.00

02:14:06.000 I know. 1.00

02:14:07.000 So at a certain point, it's like, I'm going to I'm going to keep doing it, but we're going to make space to be like, we're going to be hanging out.

02:14:13.000 Someone's going to roll up and I'm going to be like, dude, if you want this new set of wheels, I got to see I got to see some flip and flip out, man.

02:14:20.000 I want to see Nali flip backside tailslide. 0.99

02:14:23.000 I'll tell you what, I'll throw in some bone Swiss if you big spin out. 1.00

02:14:27.000 Most people probably have no idea what you just said.

02:14:28.000 Your mom's a big spin out. 1.00

02:14:30.000 I have no idea what Tim just said.

02:14:31.000 But the point is, imagine they do that and we got a Gadsden flag on the wall.

02:14:36.000 Right.

02:14:37.000 There's a really good skateboarder named Cody McIntyre.

02:14:39.000 He's one of the craziest tricks I've ever seen on a mini ramp.

02:14:43.000 You're not going to understand any word.

02:14:44.000 A lot of you might understand this if you skate.

02:14:46.000 This dude, I watch this video on Instagram.

02:14:49.000 He does a forward flip blunt kick flip out.

02:14:53.000 I, I, but he's got don't tread on me on his mini ramp.

02:14:56.000 That's like a product placement for conservative ideas.

02:14:59.000 Not even just freedom.

02:15:01.000 I know.

02:15:01.000 Right.

02:15:01.000 It's like the don't tread on me flag is like the real anti-fascist statement, right?

02:15:07.000 Yup.

02:15:07.000 The OG.

02:15:08.000 What about, what about this one? 0.99

02:15:09.000 Join or die.

02:15:12.000 That's the opposite.

02:15:14.000 Lauren Southern did write a children's book.

02:15:16.000 Henry the Sheepdog and the Wolf of Mossville.

02:15:21.000 There is a good children's book out there.

02:15:22.000 Let me remember the name.

02:15:23.000 My Red Hat.

02:15:25.000 Look that up.

02:15:26.000 My Red Hat was written by a MAGA-aware gentleman for young children to learn the stories of bullying and discrimination, etc.

02:15:37.000 My Red Hat.

02:15:38.000 You know what's a really good example of why this needs to happen?

02:15:42.000 Because Casey Neistat, I think he's a cool dude.

02:15:45.000 I've known him for quite a bit.

02:15:46.000 I think he's all right, but he endorsed Hillary Clinton.

02:15:49.000 And I think he didn't know anything about Hillary Clinton.

02:15:53.000 And he actually said he knew the Trump family, that they were very nice.

02:15:56.000 But he made a video endorsing Hillary Clinton and later on came to regret it.

02:16:00.000 Most people who are producing cultural content, vlogs, skateboarding, don't know anything about what's going on in the world.

02:16:07.000 And so, somebody comes along and says, we're a super pack, we'll pay you X amount of dollars to promote our candidate.

02:16:13.000 They go, ooh, that sounds good to me.

02:16:15.000 And they don't know anything about it.

02:16:16.000 But I tell you what, you come to me and say, Michael Bloomberg wants to run, he's gonna pay you a million bucks to do a video for him, I'm gonna be like...

02:16:22.000 Never gonna happen.

02:16:24.000 I'll tell you what.

02:16:25.000 You give me no stipulations as to what the video's about, I'll make a video about Michael Bloomberg, and then I'll make an hour-long documentary about how awful he is.

02:16:31.000 You know?

02:16:32.000 But they wouldn't do it.

02:16:32.000 They're like, no, no, promote him, endorse him.

02:16:33.000 It's never gonna happen.

02:16:35.000 That being said, I do videos on YouTube, and then his videos get placed on my videos by YouTube.

02:16:39.000 Funny.

02:16:40.000 That's awesome. 0.65

02:16:41.000 I do a video saying, here's why Michael Bloomberg is awful.

02:16:43.000 And then it's like the video that pops up, the advertisement I get paid is him

02:16:47.000 being like, I'm Michael Bloomberg vote for me.

02:16:49.000 And then it's like the video stops.

02:16:51.000 Here's why Michael Bloomberg is awful.

02:16:52.000 That's awesome.

02:16:53.000 So it's like, you're getting, you're getting, you know, corrected. 0.99

02:16:55.000 So anyway, here's why Michael Bloomberg sucks. 0.99

02:16:58.000 Yes. 0.99

02:16:58.000 Exactly! 0.99

02:16:58.000 No, which one? 0.99

02:16:58.000 You mean Sargon? 0.99

02:16:59.000 Exactly just like that whole count Dankula thing that just played out. Did you see that? No, which one?

02:17:04.000 Count Dankula was being sued for libel or defamation. You mean you mean Sargon? Oh, sorry. I was a Sargon

02:17:10.000 Sargon got sued for a copyright infringement. Oh No, no. No, there was just a libel case. That was just

02:17:16.000 settled and And some chick sued him, was going ape about it. 1.00

02:17:21.000 They just kept going.

02:17:23.000 The judge kept saying, don't do it.

02:17:24.000 They finally got... I think you're talking about Sargon.

02:17:26.000 Am I?

02:17:27.000 Did I get this confused?

02:17:28.000 Yeah.

02:17:29.000 Oh, okay.

02:17:30.000 So Sargon of Akkad... Well, let me start over.

02:17:33.000 Because it starts with Aquila.

02:17:34.000 Aquila filmed what was going on on election night in 2016.

02:17:38.000 And so then Sargon took segments of her full video and then titled it, SJW Levels of Awareness.

02:17:46.000 She then tried getting it taken down for copyright.

02:17:49.000 YouTube did.

02:17:50.000 Sargon challenged it, saying it's fair use.

02:17:54.000 It's commentary.

02:17:55.000 A bunch of people told Sargon he was wrong.

02:17:57.000 They said, dude, you just uploaded straight clips.

02:17:58.000 You didn't comment on it at all.

02:17:59.000 You just showed the clips.

02:18:01.000 Sargon was really smart.

02:18:02.000 You know what he did?

02:18:03.000 He said nothing.

02:18:05.000 He said, don't worry about it.

02:18:07.000 And so when she finally sued to get taken down, he knew what he was talking about.

02:18:12.000 The title of the video was commentary and criticism.

02:18:16.000 You can show someone's video, raw, as it is on their channel, and then put the title, and it is fair use.

02:18:24.000 By showing her video and titling it SJW Levels of Awareness, it was apparent to everybody, the judge, even Akilah's own lawyers.

02:18:32.000 Who, for some reason, she changed lawyers.

02:18:35.000 I can only imagine it's because they knew, you're gonna lose.

02:18:38.000 But they even said in their, like, one of their initial filings, that the only reason he uploaded the video was to make fun of or, like, disparage.

02:18:45.000 And so the judge was like, you acknowledge this was criticism?

02:18:48.000 Like, that's quintessential fair use.

02:18:51.000 She decided to go for it anyway.

02:18:53.000 And what they think it was, what is it called?

02:18:55.000 Ad terrorum, I think it is?

02:18:57.000 I think so.

02:18:58.000 It's when you sue someone knowing that they can't fight back, so they're going to cave and give you whatever you want.

02:19:02.000 Yeah, to terror.

02:19:02.000 Yeah.

02:19:03.000 Yeah.

02:19:03.000 And so that's what someone had referred to it as.

02:19:06.000 But Sargon raised money, defended himself, because he knew he was going to win.

02:19:10.000 And she sent him an email.

02:19:11.000 I could be wrong about this, but I believe she sent an email saying, like, they wanted to settle for 40 grand.

02:19:16.000 And so he just was like, no, thank you.

02:19:19.000 He just won, uh, he just won, uh, he didn't just win, but he won his court fees.

02:19:25.000 Not only did he win the case, it is fair use, he then sued for court fees to be paid back because she was on Twitter gloating that she was trying to take him for all he's worth and like, you know, bankrupt him and stuff and mocking his family.

02:19:38.000 And so I guess the judge said, this is not a good faith copyright suit.

02:19:41.000 This was meant to drum up a celebrity or something like that.

02:19:44.000 I think that's what happened.

02:19:45.000 And then she just recently paid him out.

02:19:48.000 But she raised all the money on GoFundMe.

02:19:51.000 And I'll say this, my understanding of what she wrote, it was libelous.

02:19:57.000 It was intense.

02:19:58.000 Lying about the judge?

02:20:00.000 But, you know what, man?

02:20:02.000 The right doesn't start the fights.

02:20:04.000 The Proud Boys don't go out and start the fights.

02:20:06.000 The Proud Boys will go to a rally, and when Antifa shows up, the fight starts.

02:20:10.000 In that context, the Proud Boys might start a fight.

02:20:13.000 I'm like, I don't know, you know, it's Sargon's business, but she wrote this GoFundMe raising money with lies, and that's fraud.

02:20:20.000 Yeah.

02:20:21.000 This seemed to have been resolved, at least the legal fees resolved recently by her doing a GoFundMe, which means her fans are paying Sargon.

02:20:28.000 And I just read about that today, which is what I meant when you brought up Sargon earlier.

02:20:32.000 I was like, oh yeah, that thing that just happened in the news.

02:20:35.000 So you threw me for a loop there, but we're on point now.

02:20:39.000 We got too many superchats coming in, I'm trying to... Blazing.

02:20:42.000 Yeah, trying to reach as many as we can.

02:20:44.000 Ben Jordan says, love Will of the People, Tim.

02:20:47.000 Can't stop listening to it.

02:20:48.000 If you haven't, check out Will of the People.

02:20:51.000 You can just search TimCast Will of the People, and you can listen if you haven't.

02:20:54.000 And, uh, share it.

02:20:55.000 Because, I mean, that's, like, I'm not... I'm gonna do maybe a marketing thing to boost the song, just because I can, and I think it'd be fun.

02:21:03.000 Uh, why not?

02:21:04.000 But, uh, it's, it's, it's going through the process to go up on Spotify and, and other, like, you know, Amazon stuff.

02:21:09.000 So that'll happen at some point.

02:21:11.000 But, uh, you can check it out.

02:21:12.000 And you know what we'll do at the end of the show?

02:21:13.000 We'll just, we'll play it for y'all.

02:21:14.000 So you can, you can watch it here and then, you know, check it out later.

02:21:18.000 Let's see.

02:21:20.000 Waffle Sensei says, the Timcast IRL should naturally fill some of the void left from the Joe Rogan experience.

02:21:26.000 Mankind needs shows like these.

02:21:29.000 Thank you for your voluntary service to talking about your feelings on the internet and Happy Thanksgiving.

02:21:34.000 Well, uh... Happy Thanksgiving to you too, sir.

02:21:37.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:21:38.000 Joe's not going anywhere.

02:21:39.000 He's doing a show.

02:21:40.000 It's on Spotify.

02:21:40.000 Only on Spotify.

02:21:42.000 Yeah, so I think there's going to be... He's still doing clips.

02:21:45.000 They're still going to be on YouTube, so you're still going to see his content.

02:21:48.000 But, you know, whatever.

02:21:51.000 We would break the internet.

02:21:55.000 Yeah, it wouldn't work.

02:21:57.000 But you know, the thing is, Cenk wouldn't do it.

02:22:00.000 That's the problem.

02:22:01.000 It's like, if we got a high profile leftist and Alex Jones, it would be one of the biggest political podcasts ever.

02:22:10.000 The leftists just never want to do it.

02:22:11.000 I asked, I think five, I think five leftists to come on with Alex Jones.

02:22:15.000 They all said no.

02:22:17.000 They know all about canceling.

02:22:18.000 Well, I'm sorry.

02:22:18.000 A couple just ignored me outright.

02:22:20.000 And then, you know, whatever.

02:22:23.000 After the fact, issued a comment saying, COVID, I can't do it.

02:22:29.000 Let's see.

02:22:29.000 Ryu Kirito says, apparently Andrew Jackson made his own party when the presidency was allegedly stolen from him and they voted Democrat for the next 100 years.

02:22:37.000 The Jacksonian Democrats.

02:22:39.000 I think Trump may do the same.

02:22:41.000 I don't see how, I think Trump took over the GOP and I don't see how Republicans move on.

02:22:47.000 They like, they can't just, people are going to be, are pissed.

02:22:50.000 They're saying don't vote Republican because the GOP abandoned Trump.

02:22:56.000 Jimmy Russler says, Tim, have you caught wind of the Black Rifle Coffee S show?

02:23:00.000 True color is being revealed.

02:23:01.000 Do you see this with Black Rifle?

02:23:04.000 It has something to do with Kyle Rittenhouse in support of him or not.

02:23:07.000 Yes.

02:23:08.000 Well, so they, I kind of feel like you just break a pen.

02:23:12.000 I did.

02:23:14.000 I kind of feel like Black Rifle's too scared to say they support Kyle Rittenhouse.

02:23:19.000 Yeah.

02:23:19.000 Really?

02:23:20.000 So, yeah.

02:23:21.000 I disagree.

02:23:22.000 Why?

02:23:22.000 What do you mean?

02:23:23.000 I don't think it's good policy.

02:23:24.000 I'm going to say my piece.

02:23:25.000 This is my hill to die on, okay?

02:23:26.000 I don't think it's good policy for any company to give any form of support for anyone like Kyle Rittenhouse, whether you like him or not.

02:23:34.000 And I'm going to get crucified for this.

02:23:35.000 And by like, you mean someone who is on trial for murder?

02:23:38.000 Exactly.

02:23:39.000 Someone who's on trial.

02:23:40.000 Someone who's politically hot.

02:23:41.000 Someone who's a hot potato.

02:23:43.000 They said they don't want to be seen as profiting off of that whole situation.

02:23:43.000 Why would you support that?

02:23:47.000 That's fair.

02:23:48.000 I respect that 100%.

02:23:49.000 But I think what's happening is people expect them to say, of course we support him, he was defending himself.

02:23:54.000 Right.

02:23:54.000 And I don't, I don't, they're like, we don't want to say that.

02:23:57.000 It's gonna, you know, it's gonna be bad for us.

02:23:59.000 Adjust your expectations.

02:24:00.000 Yeah, it's going to look like they're trying to make money off of it.

02:24:02.000 So that's basically what happened.

02:24:04.000 The media put up some fake news or whatever.

02:24:06.000 Fake news.

02:24:08.000 Logan Matthews says, Tom Clancy should sue the pandemic for plagiarism.

02:24:11.000 Division and Division 2 are like a prophetic vision of 2020 and the Fallout after.

02:24:15.000 Also, plagiarism is a funny looking word.

02:24:17.000 Just notice that.

02:24:18.000 While you were typing it out.

02:24:20.000 It happens to us.

02:24:21.000 Words are cool.

02:24:23.000 The game's not identical.

02:24:25.000 Utopia is the creepy show because they filmed that pre-COVID.

02:24:29.000 Utopia was filmed before COVID happened, and it is a show about a wealthy SJW who fakes a pandemic so that the FDA forces through a vaccine at the last minute at the demand of the people, and then it sterilizes everybody.

02:24:40.000 I want to read the book or see the British version.

02:24:42.000 The original British version is creepy and weird.

02:24:45.000 It has great music and great cinematography.

02:24:47.000 I heard it's better.

02:24:48.000 Yeah, gotta watch it.

02:24:49.000 So at the end of this SJW one, is there one class of people that is spared from the disease that comes through the vaccine that sterilizes folks?

02:25:00.000 I don't think so.

02:25:01.000 Because in the original one, the guy plans to erase everybody except his particular genetic.

02:25:06.000 Well, we only watched the first season and that wasn't mentioned yet.

02:25:09.000 Well, so the British one has two seasons.

02:25:11.000 Yeah.

02:25:12.000 And the U.S.

02:25:14.000 one has the one season right now that just came out.

02:25:15.000 So good.

02:25:16.000 Watch the British one. 0.77

02:25:17.000 I gotta say, I didn't, I'm not a fan of the, uh, it's interesting to watch because of the parallels, but it's kind of not a good show.

02:25:25.000 I really like the idea.

02:25:26.000 I imagine that. 1.00

02:25:27.000 It sounds stupid. 1.00

02:25:28.000 The other one is right up your alley, dude. 1.00

02:25:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:25:30.000 Graphic artists and novels, graphic novels and like hidden messages and like, you know, secret internet chat rooms.

02:25:38.000 Yeah.

02:25:39.000 That, that was in this, this newer version as well.

02:25:41.000 I kind of like that.

02:25:42.000 I like some of the texts.

02:25:43.000 Here's, here's, here's the, here's the perfect super chat.

02:25:46.000 D. Steve says, yo, Tim dog, love and appreciate your work, man.

02:25:48.000 Thank you for what you do.

02:25:50.000 And who's the dude in the beard?

02:25:51.000 I want to follow him.

02:25:52.000 He seems pretty metal.

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02:26:20.000 It's easy to find me.

02:26:21.000 Do it.

02:26:22.000 safety off says bro if you follow through with events slash culture you jack and team could literally be the catalyst to save this nation we all need guidance on how to organize and be heard as high levels are being excommunicated from society oh we're gonna have comedy shows here we're gonna film them and the jokes are gonna be uh gonna be offensive comedies like i was watching family guy the other day Probably the most racist thing I have seen in a very long time was their episode where the Griffins are like running from the cops.

02:26:52.000 And so they go to Chinatown. 0.97

02:26:54.000 And then it was like the whole episode was just like making fun of Asian people.

02:26:58.000 And I'm like, I thought it was funny, but it was like, wow, it was crazy.

02:27:01.000 Like watching the whole episode.

02:27:03.000 Like there's one part where it's like, you're watching CBS Chinatown and the CBS eye turns and slants.

02:27:08.000 I was like, wow!

02:27:11.000 Like, that's airing on TV right now in these days, you know?

02:27:15.000 Yeah.

02:27:16.000 Can't hear.

02:27:17.000 South Park gets a pass on that, too. 0.99

02:27:19.000 You know, shitty walk. 0.98

02:27:20.000 But South Park lost their teeth a while ago. 0.99

02:27:24.000 You think so?

02:27:25.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:27:25.000 I thought last season was pretty good.

02:27:27.000 It seems like they're trying not to push too hard.

02:27:31.000 Like, they're making fun of PC Principal, but they're not making fun of him enough.

02:27:34.000 Like, they're not really making fun of him.

02:27:37.000 So it's like, the PC babies.

02:27:39.000 It's kind of like, what's the joke?

02:27:40.000 I guess.

02:27:42.000 I guess.

02:27:44.000 They used to be totally gruesome, like the episode where the kid eats his own parents.

02:27:47.000 Scott Tenorman.

02:27:48.000 Yeah, Scott Tenorman.

02:27:49.000 There's a lot of good episodes.

02:27:50.000 Yeah, South Park's got a storied history and great, great episodes, though.

02:27:53.000 But yeah, I wonder if at a certain point there's phoning it in.

02:27:56.000 You know, I mean, they're not putting out any new material right now.

02:28:00.000 This is the time where they usually do.

02:28:02.000 I was waiting for their new season.

02:28:04.000 They put out one episode, one special.

02:28:06.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:28:07.000 With Randy having sex with the bat in China. 0.99

02:28:10.000 With Mickey Mouse. 0.99

02:28:11.000 Him and Mickey Mouse gangbanging.

02:28:12.000 Oh, can I say that?

02:28:14.000 A little late in the show, maybe.

02:28:15.000 Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

02:28:16.000 A little late in the show.

02:28:19.000 Hope everyone's gone to bed.

02:28:19.000 All the kids have gone to bed.

02:28:21.000 Can I say that?

02:28:22.000 Oh, you already did.

02:28:23.000 Whatever.

02:28:24.000 Donski.

02:28:26.000 So we got Anton Maxson says, Before COVID, I was an aspiring actor attending the NY Performing Arts Academy.

02:28:32.000 I'm working on many scripts.

02:28:33.000 Now when I write, my emotions take over and it transforms into this weird abstract thing.

02:28:37.000 May I send you first edits via Wix?

02:28:39.000 I like your input.

02:28:40.000 Yes, that is the appropriate place to send stuff.

02:28:44.000 Let's see.

02:28:44.000 Brian Brown says, I have been watching your other channels for a while, but first time watching a stream.

02:28:49.000 Love your content.

02:28:50.000 Sincerely, PDX Trump supporter.

02:28:51.000 Appreciate it.

02:28:52.000 Stay safe out there, PDX.

02:28:56.000 Doobie McNasty says, Jack MF Murphy.

02:28:59.000 What's up, Doobie?

02:29:01.000 Voshtz1985 says, the division is based off of Operation Dark Winter.

02:29:04.000 Look it up.

02:29:05.000 Wait, wait, what?

02:29:08.000 I don't know.

02:29:09.000 We gotta look it up.

02:29:10.000 Operation Dark Winter.

02:29:11.000 Sorry, my phone died.

02:29:12.000 I can't look it up.

02:29:13.000 You gotta look it up.

02:29:14.000 Joe Biden said there's going to be a dark winter.

02:29:15.000 Dark winter.

02:29:16.000 He did indeed.

02:29:17.000 Long winter.

02:29:18.000 What is Operation Dark Winter?

02:29:20.000 I'm very curious now.

02:29:21.000 I'm sorry.

02:29:21.000 Alexa.

02:29:22.000 My phone died.

02:29:23.000 Stop.

02:29:24.000 We actually have one.

02:29:25.000 You're gonna... Oh, sorry.

02:29:26.000 Yeah, you're gonna turn around.

02:29:29.000 What is Operation... Oh, this is real.

02:29:31.000 Operation Dark Winter.

02:29:32.000 Wait, what?

02:29:33.000 Let me pull this up.

02:29:35.000 All right.

02:29:35.000 We're going to look at this.

02:29:36.000 We're going to learn about this real fast before we sign off.

02:29:39.000 So the division is about a pandemic destroying New York.

02:29:44.000 And then you go into it to, to like fix everything.

02:29:48.000 Operation Dark Winter was the codename for a senior-level bio-terror attack simulation conducted on June 22nd and 23rd, 2001.

02:29:55.000 It was designed to carry out a mock version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on the U.S.

02:30:02.000 Tara O'Toole and Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Randy Larson and Mark DeMere of Analytic Services were the principal designers, authors, and controllers of the Dark Winter project.

02:30:17.000 They say, Dark Winter was focused on evaluating the inadequacies of a national emergency response

02:30:23.000 during the use of a biological weapon against the American populace. The exercise was intended to

02:30:27.000 establish preventative measures and response strategies by increasing governmental and

02:30:31.000 public awareness of the magnitude and potential of such a threat posed by biological weapons.

02:30:36.000 And then basically in the game, some dude steals it.

02:30:39.000 Good opportunity.

02:30:40.000 Releases it and then the government declares article, you know

02:30:43.000 The president acts directive 51 which gives him total control and then you come in to try and fix everything

02:30:49.000 But let me let me let me let me see some more quick That would have been a good thing for Trump to do had he

02:30:54.000 been a real fascist good opportunity didn't do it From health line. The US is likely headed for a dark winter

02:31:03.000 There it is. What?

02:31:07.000 Former Vice President Joe Biden stated that we likely we are likely to have a dark winter

02:31:11.000 with COVID-19 Joe, what are you doing?

02:31:16.000 He was briefed on that practice.

02:31:18.000 I wonder if Joe Biden, they were like, say something crazy that will make all the conspiracy theorists go insane.

02:31:24.000 Say it's going to be a dark winter and they'll look it up and they'll be like, what's Operation Dark Winter?

02:31:27.000 And then they'll freak out.

02:31:29.000 There you go, man.

02:31:30.000 Directed 51 coming at you. 0.64

02:31:32.000 Just kidding.

02:31:32.000 Who knows?

02:31:32.000 Yeah.

02:31:33.000 Well, anyway, we went a little over today because, I don't know, whatever.

02:31:36.000 It was fun.

02:31:37.000 It was fun.

02:31:37.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:31:38.000 Tim, my pleasure.

02:31:39.000 Glad to be here.

02:31:39.000 Anytime.

02:31:40.000 Lids.

02:31:41.000 Thank you.

02:31:41.000 We are not having shows.

02:31:44.000 We have no show tomorrow night.

02:31:46.000 It's Thanksgiving.

02:31:46.000 Hang out with your family.

02:31:48.000 And nothing for Black Friday either, so we'll be back the Monday after this weekend.

02:31:52.000 But I'm taking tomorrow off for my show, too, just to have a Thanksgiving to myself.

02:31:56.000 And then I think I should be back by Friday.

02:31:58.000 Um, I might put something out tomorrow.

02:31:59.000 I just, depends on what, you know, because I don't want to be bored.

02:32:02.000 If I'm bored, I'm going to be like, I'm going to do something.

02:32:04.000 No, I'm probably going to just keep skating and trying to get where we're, we're installing new lights.

02:32:07.000 And there's a lot of work that has to go down in the building, the new building.

02:32:10.000 So.

02:32:10.000 You know, I think culture is going to be very, very important.

02:32:13.000 And having that space where cool things happen.

02:32:16.000 We want to make younger people feel excited and energized by good ideas.

02:32:23.000 And the way you do that is you create a space where people are comfortable, cool, confident.

02:32:28.000 And these kids aspire to be welcomed and accepted and accomplish these things and stuff like that.

02:32:32.000 So, kind of the goal.

02:32:33.000 Indeed.

02:32:34.000 Right on.

02:32:34.000 Support that 100%.

02:32:35.000 You want to shout out your channels one more time?

02:32:37.000 I would like to do that.

02:32:37.000 Thanks for having me.

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02:32:42.000 JackMurphyLive.com as well.

02:32:44.000 Podcast long form with some interviews mixed in.

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02:33:06.000 Or if you're listening on the podcast, give us a good rating.

02:33:08.000 And I greatly appreciate it.

02:33:09.000 So we'll be back on Monday at 8 p.m.

02:33:12.000 live.

02:33:13.000 So make sure you hang out with your family and have a good time.

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02:33:17.000 You can.

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02:33:18.000 L-Y-D-S. 1.00

02:33:19.000 And I believe Ian will be back on Monday as well.

02:33:23.000 I'm hoping so, yeah.

02:33:24.000 We'll be back into the full swing of things.

02:33:26.000 But the holidays are always so rough to work through because nobody wants to work.

02:33:29.000 Like New Year's is coming.

02:33:30.000 But I wonder what's going to happen now with this lockdown.

02:33:32.000 What are people going to do for New Year's?

02:33:34.000 No New Year's Eve in New York.

02:33:36.000 Watch some YouTubes.

02:33:37.000 No New York Times Square Hall.

02:33:40.000 They'll drop the ball and no one will be there.

02:33:42.000 It's like a Black Mirror episode.

02:33:44.000 It is.

02:33:45.000 Alright everybody, thanks for hanging out.

02:33:46.000 We will see you all Monday at 8pm live.

02:33:49.000 Take care.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 26, 2020

Timcast IRL - Judge BLOCKS PA Certification, HUGE Win For Trump, w- Jack Murphy

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