On today's show, Lydia and Tim talk about the latest election results in Pennsylvania and Maryland, as well as the ongoing saga of President Trump's attempt to pick his own electoral electors. They also discuss the crazy Maryland law that keeps people out of their homes during the holidays, and how they're going about it.
00:01:29.000I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but Trump is also filing an appeal trying to get Republicans in Pennsylvania to choose their own electors.
00:01:38.000They had this hearing where they were talking about voter fraud and stuff, which That hearing stuff they're doing makes me feel like they're not taking it seriously.
00:02:01.000They're gonna take, like, GoPros on swivels and, like, you know, raise up to the window and be like, there's people that... No, they're gonna look for cars outside if there's too many... This is for real.
00:02:36.000Holidays are really, really hard to work through because no one else is working.
00:02:40.000So it's like you're dragging your car by yourself with a tow rope.
00:02:46.000It's hard to do something when no one else is doing anything.
00:02:49.000Yeah, but Tim, your audience has to acknowledge that they feel an absence, but that absence is created through your persistence and consistent hard work.
00:02:57.000You're on the grind like nobody else, putting out more political commentary and news reporting than virtually anybody out there.
00:04:01.000Well, it's it's it's so I'm actually thinking of doing only one 20 something minute segment in the morning on Timcast News and then my 4 p.m.
00:04:10.000second on my main channel so that we can start the vlog and do non-political commentary content, which means I'd still have three hours of political commentary every day.
00:05:21.000We talked about that a few weeks ago about the Democrats beating their people over the head, gaslighting, torturing them, basically threatening them.
00:05:29.000And the only thing they could do is just vote to make it stop.
00:05:31.000But part of that comes from critical race theory and activists that have produced all these people, these young kids who've taken over corporations.
00:05:38.000They're taught that politics is personal.
00:05:47.000And then you take away, you can't go to the football games, you can't go to the basketball games, you can't go to any, you can't do anything.
00:07:40.000No, that they believe that it's time for the Democrats to refute the allegations, that they're serious enough, they're credible enough, that the people making the allegations are credible enough, that it demands a refutation, actually proving them to be false.
00:07:53.000That's why I'm saying we went off the precipice a while ago and we smacked the ground.
00:08:24.000And I don't know who conducted it, so I'm not sure exactly if it's 100% accurate, but it seemed to suggest that they polled Biden voters after the election and asked them, were they aware of Hunter Biden?
00:08:35.000Were they aware of Operation Warp Speed?
00:08:39.000Were they aware of our energy independence under Trump, etc., etc.?
00:08:43.000And they said if they were, they would have voted for Trump in a small, a small enough, a large enough percentage, but it was a small percentage.
00:08:49.000It was like typically around four to 5% of the people said, wow, I wouldn't have voted for Biden if that was the case.
00:09:38.000And like there was no similar energy around Joe Biden, but maybe maybe this does prove once and for all, hopefully not, that hate is more motivating than than love or hope.
00:09:49.000I'm not entirely convinced that widespread voter fraud is what cost Trump the election.
00:10:12.000Especially when you have these hearings.
00:10:13.000Now, it's silly that they're happening in like a Wyndham or whatever.
00:10:16.000That's like, what are they doing, you know?
00:10:18.000They're going to do it in a couple other states, I guess, but some of these people, man, these are, these are, when I was listening to the certification process for Michigan, some of the people who called in for public, like to say, do not certify.
00:10:30.000These were like former government officials.
00:10:35.000Relatively high-ranked individuals in various organizations and government who have said Rattling off all the evidence calling out the law and they said f you f you man that one guy His name was like Aaron van Langeveld was one of the most feckless and pathetic people I've ever had to listen to It's like you had a guy say like under this section of the law It says for any reason necessary you can call an adjournment like you can adjourn the meeting and he goes well I can't just make something up and they're like if you can't Certify, which is defined as determining if something is true, then you can call for an adjournment until they sort out these errors.
00:11:12.000And he goes, I just don't think that's in the law anywhere.
00:11:15.000And it was like, he said it like 10 times.
00:11:17.000And I'm like, dude, you like, it was so obvious that he was doing everything in his power to guarantee this for Joe Biden.
00:11:24.000And you had people like one guy called in and rattled off a ton of crazy evidence, affidavits, you know, sworn statements, statistical anomalies.
00:11:33.000The things people had seen and the unbalanced books, for instance, 70 whatever percent, you know, signatures didn't match how many votes were cast.
00:11:41.000People who had said that they didn't request absentee ballots, but absentee ballots got sent to him anyway, things like that.
00:11:47.000And this guy goes, well, you know, I don't know, I guess, you know, whatever.
00:11:51.000It's like, you wouldn't exist unless you had a choice.
00:11:54.000Like, why would you even be in that position?
00:11:55.000You're there for a reason to certify, or you can say, I can't certify this because the books are unbalanced.
00:12:00.000One explanation for that is that he was trying to advance the ball for Biden.
00:12:04.000Another explanation is that he was so soft and scared and incapable of making a principled decision or making a hard decision or taking action or anything like that.
00:12:13.000I don't think he was trying to advance it for Biden.
00:12:33.000So this guy, who is, you know, should not be in a leadership position, he sees that and he immediately says, I have to, I have to, I have no choice.
00:12:40.000And the reason he was saying that was because he doesn't want Republicans getting mad at him.
00:12:51.000You mean in terms of like fighting aggressively or?
00:12:54.000So Antifa breaks the rules and gets away with it. Yep. 100% And the only like the only thing comparable is probably the
00:13:01.000Proud Boys and they typically are defensive They'll show up and do a rally and then Antifa attacks them
00:13:06.000and then they'll fight back But Antifa is aggressive and they get away with it. It's
00:13:10.000overt terrorism. It's low-tier terror It's not like they're showing up with, you know, with like, you know, AKs and mowing down, you know, kids or anything like that.
00:13:18.000But they're saying... Just picking off Trump supporters one by one on the streets of Portland.
00:13:41.000And I'll tell you one of the biggest problems.
00:13:43.000I would say it would seem that there's probably like, I don't know, four or five percent of Trump supporters who are cowards.
00:13:50.000They're smart enough to know they need to vote for him, but they were too terrified of what the left would do to him to speak out and evangelize on his behalf.
00:13:56.000So I said this about all these celebrities who I know support Trump but refuse to speak up because they're like, I'll lose my job.
00:14:02.000And I'm like, you will wake up one day with a Joe Biden presidency and everything you hold dear being stripped away.
00:14:08.000And you'll say, I wish I had spoken up sooner because I had a lot of influence and I could have used it.
00:14:11.000Bro, you are preaching to the choir on this one, my friend.
00:14:14.000I have arrows in my back from being out front.
00:14:17.000People have been free riding on my willingness to go out there personally and stump for Trump and advocate for him and say he's the best choice that we had as far back as 2016.
00:14:27.000Obviously, Democrats are the poor people who transition everything.
00:14:47.000I'll say this from now on, if anyone ever, whenever I'm ever going to bring up not being scared and speaking up, I'm just going to say, be like Jack Murphy, because people always say, Tim, you don't have a family.
00:15:10.000It was this terrorism, info terror, like, uh, character assassination, et cetera.
00:15:14.000And they came after me and I jujitsu around into something positive.
00:15:19.000There was, you know, it was an opportunity.
00:15:20.000I mean, when you see the world in terms of opportunity and energy and you see it all coming at you and you have a chance to turn it around into something good, you know, I seized on it.
00:15:28.000And plus living well is the best revenge.
00:15:34.000So think about this guy, this Michigan State, on the State Board of Canvassers, who was, no matter what was said to him, citing the law, citing evidence, he said, well, you know, I have no choice.
00:15:46.000One guy said, if that's the case, then why are you here?
00:15:48.000I'm not a rubber stamp for the governor.
00:16:19.000But I use him as a really good example because he is like the most mild-mannered, offensive guy, you know, that like the social media age has wrought.
00:16:31.000If Twitter started banning a bunch of people and a bunch of crazy stuff happened, do you think Sargon of Akkad is going to lead a group of liberalists, men, you know, with fedoras and beards down to Twitter HQ with pitchforks and torches to smash and destroy everything?
00:17:42.000This guy, Aaron, you know, he's, uh, you know, a sad, scared little man who, you know, he shouldn't be in a leadership position if you can't handle the heat.
00:18:05.000And so what happens is, here's a guy sitting there, and he sees what happens.
00:18:10.000When the Democrat state board, when the two Democrats said, we are going to certify, did Republicans announce where their children lived and threaten them?
00:18:28.000I mean, these are like regular Democrats in the community saying, your kids go to school here.
00:18:34.000No, it's a perfectly normal thing on the left to say all kinds of stuff like that.
00:18:37.000And they know that when they say that, Antifa is the cudgel who will show up and act, and they'll say it's, what is it called, stochastic terrorism?
00:20:24.000All right, so there's an episode where I guess Frasier is having a bad day, and he has his normal table at the coffee shop, and he's got his coffee sitting down.
00:20:33.000He goes up to grab some creamer or something, and a guy sits in his chair.
00:20:36.000And he gets angry, and he says, Sir, this is my seat.
00:20:44.000So eventually this guy sues him, knowing he's like a radio host, he's got money, and, uh, you know, Fraser can't do anything about it.
00:20:50.000So eventually they end up meeting back at the coffee shop, and then Niles gets in his face, and then, you know, starts pressuring him and insulting him, and then the guy says, back off, man, and pokes his chest, and then Niles goes, whoa!
00:21:04.000And falls over and slams onto the floor.
00:21:07.000And then he goes, countersuit, countersuit!
00:21:09.000And then the guy backs off and says, okay, I give up.
00:21:12.000So the joke was, and he was like, I didn't do anything to him.
00:21:15.000He's like, well, we all watched you touch him.
00:22:05.000We don't have that system because we adhere to the system of rule of law and we expect that if you destroy property or federal property you're going to go away to federal prison.
00:22:14.000So what do you do if you're playing Monopoly, and the person across the table, every so often you see him swipe a hundred from the bank, and you go, dude, I saw you do that!
00:22:23.000And you'd be like, what are you talking about?
00:22:36.000Just, you know, I like to pick my moments of aggression like that, and sometimes it's just not worth it, but The alternative here of just like getting up and walking away from the board game, that's easy.
00:23:04.000We're at a point where we've seen the evidence.
00:23:07.000There is so much evidence of, first, irregularity.
00:23:12.000Because fraud, we've got to figure out who did it, and is it definitive?
00:23:16.000So following Matt Brainerd of the Voter Integrity Fund, He recently put out a database, like screenshots of people all using the same commercial address as their residential address.
00:23:40.000But some of these addresses were just like, one of them I think was, uh, like a shopping mall or something like, okay.
00:23:47.000And the, and the difference is they say apartment on them.
00:23:50.000So if you're going to, if you're going to use the same address and then call it apartment number to make it seem like it's a real residence, that that's fraud, that's evidence of fraud outright.
00:23:59.000One of the things that he pointed out that struck me was that in, I think, Wisconsin, I believe there is a particular clause that says if you are indefinitely confined, you can get an absentee ballot and not have to show ID.
00:24:11.000And it's like some... 169,000 people indefinitely confined.
00:25:22.000It could be very simple at this one shopping mall, somebody has a mailbox or something
00:25:26.000And then again, confused their mailing address.
00:25:29.000Someone pointed out that you actually, like in some instances you can put your mailing address as your residence on some form or something that maybe got mixed up.
00:25:58.000Well, CNN ran a segment where this deranged guy said Trump's going to form a shadow government.
00:26:03.000I wouldn't call it a shadow government, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump says, if you support me and you believe me to be your president, I will be leading a movement.
00:26:14.000And it could operate within the confines of the law, but it could have powerful and massive impacts across the country.
00:26:20.000People have accused Obama of running a shadow government, shadow presidency this whole time, living but merely a mile away from the White House in Colorado and Washington, D.C.
00:26:31.000Bezos, who bought a museum, dude, he bought a museum and turned it into his private residence in downtown Washington.
00:26:38.000If we have to have hearings at Wyndham hotels, because we can't have them in actual legal buildings with legitimate legal proceedings, then it shows you that people are no longer confident in one unified system.
00:26:53.000The government exists based on one thing, confidence.
00:26:55.000That people think, in their minds, the machine exists and the machine will churn along.
00:27:00.000You start to realize then, when you see a judge and PA, issue ridiculous rulings or you start to hear the state cannabis guy in michigan repeatedly just say i can't do it even though we got the law in front of him saying he literally can and it's like dude you're lying why are you like you literally can the guy read you the law three times desperately trying to say i can't
00:27:20.000Felony, arson, felony, assault, assault with a deadly weapon, murder.
00:27:24.000We have seen Antifa get away with smashing things up and destroying things and burning
00:27:53.000So then what's the point of the law if these people can go out and smash things and get away with it?
00:27:56.000What's the point of the law if Antifa can literally organize terroristic events on Twitter with no repercussion?
00:28:03.000And they've been doing it non-stop for a year.
00:28:06.000At a certain point Republicans are going to say the law doesn't actually mean anything because it doesn't get enforced.
00:28:11.000Then they're going to show up to a Wyndham hotel to have their hearing on voter fraud because they are rallying among themselves saying, we know this is true and it doesn't matter if the official building or the Democrats think it is or isn't.
00:28:24.000So at a certain point, There's not necessarily a shadow government, but I've been saying this for quite some time with the censorship.
00:28:31.000They are pushing to create parallel economies by stripping people away of their financial institutions and communications.
00:28:38.000So now we have parallel social media growing faster than ever.
00:28:43.000You have, like I mentioned, hearing in a hotel, like an official proceeding.
00:28:47.000It looked like it was like it was a Senate hearing.
00:28:50.000But they were doing it in a hotel, which is crazy.
00:28:52.000And you have CNN worried about Trump forming a shadow government.
00:28:55.000But there are people who say legitimately Trump won and we know it, and they're not... You had Rhodes of the Oath Keepers say that he believes Trump supporters, half the country, will not regard anything out of Obama's... I'm sorry, anything out of Biden's mouth as legitimate.
00:29:11.000So it's like the fracture has happened.
00:29:35.000Some of it's deliberate in an offensive way from the other side to silence us or separate us from the mainstream or whatever the case.
00:29:42.000But some of it is coming from our side too.
00:29:44.000Some of it is just a natural phenomenon at this point where you want to erect a barrier.
00:29:49.000You want to have a wall between yourself and the people you care about and the people that you don't know and that you don't have the same level of care for.
00:29:57.000And eventually we're going to have not just parallel financial systems or economies or labor markets, but decentralized and just, it's just sort of all the big mix, but they're all connected in their own unique ways.
00:30:11.000It's the future of communication, of finance, where people are going to come together and build their own networks where they can live, work and play.
00:30:18.000And this is, you know, this is not, this is sort of a longer term vision here.
00:30:21.000But that's, that's going to lead to widespread violence.
00:30:25.000If we're talking about Trump supporters... I was talking about a little bit of a different thing than you were talking about, but I hear what you're saying.
00:30:31.000If Republicans and Trump supporters right now no longer have confidence in the elections, in the government, in the system, and they're going to start doing their own thing, and they probably will, So, like, one of the things I said a month or two ago when someone asked me, like, what do you think it's gonna look like if we do see some kind of civil war?
00:30:48.000I said, it's gonna be a bunch of right-wing dudes in the middle of nowhere just basically saying, we no longer care about what the law is.
00:30:54.000Like, if they pass a law on gun control saying, turning your guns, they're gonna be like, who are you talking to?
00:31:00.000And we saw seeds of that starting in the spring, in the winter, in January, in Richmond, in Virginia, when the governor and the legislature, they were looking to pass very restrictive gun laws.
00:31:11.000Many counties said that they wouldn't have forced the laws and they were joining together in resistance.
00:31:16.000There was just a huge protest where a bunch of armed dudes were walking around.
00:31:20.000I'm not sure if it was Virginia or D.C.
00:32:22.000People have been ignoring the government, I think, since and even before it was incepted.
00:32:28.000So that was one thing I wanted to step back a second and just be like, look, remember 2016, all those all those Democrats were like, You should engage electoral college and change the vote and whatever.
00:32:39.000And they're saying that, you know, it's also there's a video of a bunch of celebrities saying you will be a hero electoral college if you vote your conscience and do not elect Donald Trump.
00:32:57.000How much of these feelings that we're having, the sense of disintegration, or I won't respect him, not my president, and all that, or ignoring federal laws, how much of that is really new?
00:33:25.000Decriminalization and legalization of cannabis on a state level, even though it's federally prohibited.
00:33:30.000That's a great example of states ignoring the federal government, disregarding the law, and saying, screw you, we're going to do what we want.
00:33:39.000When a state says, we want, we are a sovereign state, you know, and we've decided, there was a big wave of states declaring sovereignty, you know, I think it was like 12 years ago or so.
00:33:49.000That's, the states always have their own laws and, you know, and they can, there's a lot of laws that don't, you know, work with federal laws.
00:33:55.000It's different when you have two overarching cultures with 70 plus million on each side, for the most part.
00:34:02.000Not every single person who voted for Biden or against Trump or for Trump are, you know, super politically active.
00:34:07.000There's probably a lot of people who are just like Democrat and, you know, Republican.
00:34:10.000Well, let me just say thematically then, it's the same in that disregarding the authority of the federal government, deciding to do what you think is right and not accepting it as legitimate what's coming from Washington, D.C.
00:34:31.000I think sanctuary laws are like a legal challenge, where the people in the state, like, they agree and they vote for something, and then the feds challenge them and there's a lawsuit, and then the feds ultimately back off.
00:34:45.000It's different when you have, in the state, in the same areas, two different factions of people, completely at odds with each other, doing different things, as though there's a different government, or a different system for, um... So would you take the Monopoly board and just flip it over, and fling everything everywhere, and say, we gotta start over and get a whole new game, or are you gonna get up and walk away, or are you gonna punch the guy in the face?
00:35:12.000But therein lies the serious problem of what does it mean to walk away in this analogy.
00:35:19.000I got a house out in the middle of nowhere, and I'm doing my own thing, and the lockdowns are getting... Bro, we're well beyond the point of these dystopian novels.
00:35:33.000Maryland announced they're launching compliance units that are going to patrol Thanksgiving looking for cars that could indicate someone's having family over.
00:36:01.000Well, not to be the party pooper on that one, but loud music does induce people to speak more loudly and enunciate more clearly, which is, which is why, which, which, which I really, they're not, you don't, you're not allowed to play music at restaurants.
00:36:14.000And I was like, what, what is that about?
00:36:16.000And they're like, the volume has to be low so that you don't yell.
00:36:29.000Yeah, everyone will follow that definitely and but you know, I'm seeing some pushback man I'm seeing some pushback I've seen in my local jurisdictions parents getting together and in agreeing that their kids should be playing little league that their kids should be playing baseball They should be doing crew.
00:36:46.000They should be playing tennis That they should have group practices and they should try to find events.
00:37:19.000Fisher. He says today Boogaloo boy Mike Dunn led militia activists on an armed march in
00:37:23.000laps around the Capitol in Richmond, Virginia, where it's illegal to carry guns at protests
00:37:28.000and it's illegal to carry 20 plus 20 plus round mags.
00:37:32.000Police stood back and did not intervene as the group defied both laws. Wow. This is a
00:37:38.000large group of people and they're carrying lots of weapons. Yeah. In violation of the law.
00:37:44.000And it's Richmond, Virginia, it's not D.C.
00:37:46.000He says, he's got another follow-up, he says, police monitored the area, many carrying long rifles themselves, but did not intervene as the Boogaloo Boys marched by them, as well as signs reading, firearms prohibited beyond this point.
00:37:56.000Other than pleasantries like good morning, police didn't really speak to them.
00:37:59.000In fact, in the beginning of his video, you can see a sign that says notice and there's a picture of a handgun in a red circle with a line through it.
00:38:09.000There's been widespread civil disobedience before.
00:38:12.000But has that been combined with widespread factional violence and 70 plus million people believe in the election?
00:38:19.000Or I should say, to be fair, based on the polling we've seen, it's around 80% of Trump's voters in various polls, 80% more than one poll said this, do not believe the election was free and fair.
00:38:29.000So we're looking at something like 65 million people or so, 66 million people who think that the election was rigged.
00:38:39.000How many Americans do you think have ever seen a baseball game where they knew the other side was cheating and they just thought to themselves, sort of like, well, you know, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
00:38:59.000So how much, is there a chance that if, if they go through all of the legal process and everything is exhausted at the end of the day, whatever the final arbitration is, it's like for Biden, you don't think some of that 80% is just gonna be like, well, we'll get them next time.
00:39:24.000I mean, it's conservatives saying, well, they're cheating and we know they're cheating, but you know, whatever.
00:39:28.000So I'm trying to combine the fecklessness you're describing with this anticipatory conflict that you're thinking about, that we've gone off the precipice and we're shattered.
00:39:38.000I'm not saying that whatever's happening is going to, in the immediate result, in marching armies or anything like that, or the Republicans arming up and saying, No confidence in the government or whatever.
00:39:51.000I'm saying they literally are already having public hearings outside of government.
00:40:14.000They didn't announce anything like that.
00:40:15.000It was just really just a dog and pony show where people with credible, credible people came and gave their testimony, but not even testimony.
00:40:25.000They're just sort of So that's the other thing I was saying early on, that perhaps what they were doing is just trying to calm down the Hulk.
00:40:31.000They were like, we need to make sure that Republicans grumble and go home and do nothing.
00:40:37.000So we're going to give them their hearing.
00:40:39.000You're not giving them a hearing in an actual building, are you?
00:40:41.000Fine, we'll do it at the Wyndham, I guess.
00:40:43.000Then they'll feel like we actually listened to them.
00:40:46.000The Republicans are, like, right now, in my opinion, in Pennsylvania, look at this, they're the ones who passed Act 77, which created the universal, the no-excuse mail-in voting system, which, according to the lawsuit, that's actually gotten, you know, that's gotten the certification frozen, unconstitutional.
00:41:05.000Now in Pennsylvania, the Republicans are holding these like, you know, it reminds me of that joke where they said, both the left and the right have said this about Biden or Trump, make a fake White House, put, you know, candidate in it, and then film a reality show where they think they're president.
00:41:20.000So, they're like, let's set up a hearing, we'll do it at a hotel, it won't be official, but we'll convince the Republicans we're actually looking out for them.
00:41:29.000I don't know Pennsylvania politics so well, but were the people, those Republicans, were they the old-line establishment types, the neocon types, were they?
00:42:17.000But it's basically like, we've deemed that this lawsuit is true and correct, and this is unconstitutional, but we're gonna allow it, and then, you know, we'll call on the legislature in the future to do something about it.
00:42:30.000So it's like, you know that it was bunk and something was bad, and you're gonna let it stand.
00:42:36.000So what happens when the judge said, he said to Giuliani, what do you expect me to do?
00:42:41.000Disenfranchise, you know, 7 million voters or whatever.
00:42:45.000And Giuliani, I guess he was like, you know, we don't know where these votes came from.
00:42:49.000In this case, the judges had, they had two choices.
00:42:54.000If they agreed with Giuliani and said these 700,000 votes are hereby being disqualified at the fault of the Pennsylvania government for violating the election code.
00:43:06.000Oh, now I remember exactly what they said.
00:43:09.000The judge said the election code states there must be observers witnessing the observers present to observe the ballot counting process, but it doesn't state a distance.
00:43:21.000Therefore, as long as they're in the building, it's up to code.
00:43:25.000No sane, rational person looked at the code and said, that's the point of the law.
00:43:30.000We know why the law was passed as it was, because you want someone to observe the actual ballot.
00:43:35.000The judge said, it doesn't say what distance.
00:44:51.000I, I, I, I, I mentioned this before, but I remember being outside that building after Trump got elected and he comes in in the SUV and he's having a meeting with the old guard Republicans.
00:45:01.000And the rumor was he basically told them to go F themselves.
00:45:04.000He was the president and do whatever he wants.
00:45:05.000And I'm sure the meeting went something like, now that you're president, here's the plan we have in place for what we want you to do.
00:45:28.000And then the intelligence agencies and the establishment elites, you know, we're all simultaneously drinking their tea and drop their glasses.
00:47:22.000And that language came from Mother Jones.
00:47:25.000They said the political civil war will carry on.
00:47:28.000When you have the Obama administration falsely targeting an acting national security advisor who was doing his job, And with the underlying motivation of protecting themselves, right?
00:47:38.000The FBI said, what's our goal here to prosecute him or get him fired?
00:47:42.000The fact that they even questioned getting him fired proves that their intention was
00:48:15.000And he threw out sort of a dynamic guy who wanted to make change in the right way, who saw the world the right way and was part of the whole team that was supposed to make changes.
00:48:26.000And that was a huge fumble and a huge, a huge win basically for the Democrats there.
00:48:31.000And it just reminds me actually of why the presidential pardon exists in some cases.
00:48:35.000I mean, you had to, people had to believe that they would use the courts against your political, you know, allies as a way to get to you.
00:48:43.000So like, of course, people that support the president are going to be attacked.
00:48:46.000And this is a way to, you know, maybe protect somebody in that regard.
00:48:49.000I'm not an expert on presidential pardons, so I'm just spitting them all in there.
00:48:51.000Yeah, it does seem weird that he pled guilty, then they tried dropping it, and it's like the case is already, like, did it already get to that point?
00:49:15.000If he would have pardoned Flynn, more people would have come out in support of him.
00:49:19.000If Trump came out in the first debate with the, when they said your last and final statement, I, Donald J. Trump, am going to completely legalize through executive order on my first day of reelection, January 21st, I will completely legalize cannabis nationwide and pardon all nonviolent drug offenders.
00:49:37.000If that was that last thing he said, he's like 120 million votes.
00:49:42.000One of the survey questions in the survey I did for Democrat to Deplorable, the last question, bonus question, do you think that cannabis should be decriminalized at the federal level?
00:49:51.000And it was like 75% to 25% of Democrat to Deplorable voters supported it.
00:51:13.000There's a lot of things he could have done, didn't do.
00:51:16.000I don't know if I'm ready for the post-mortem, although I've been critical of him every time that he needed it, and I've been supportive when he has.
00:51:22.000You know, I've never been one to come out and just throw MAGA red meat and say Donald Trump is the God-Savior and all that.
00:51:28.000He represented an opportunity for us, the network, to make change.
00:51:35.000And I think he was effective in some ways in that regard, and he certainly stalled some of the things that we wanted to stall and slow.
00:51:46.000The economic devastation that will come to this country in the next several months will be... I believe it's going to be... COVID-related, you mean?
00:52:20.000No, I mean, I'm telling you, we got this, uh, I got the, let me, let me pull the story, the story of new COVID policing unit to launch in Maryland on Thanksgiving Eve.
00:52:29.000They're, uh, high, high visibility enforcement efforts.
00:52:32.000They're calling like, they're calling them like compliance units.
00:52:35.000State and local police to enforce compliance.
00:52:38.000We're literally at a point where the government, against the science, and even in some instances against the direction of the CDC, are destroying the economy.
00:52:54.000Yeah, that's real good news for people with money in retirement or in their stocks, but younger people and people who are lower class just got cut off completely.
00:53:05.000We're at a point where you can see the stock market skyrocketing while businesses are collapsing, wages are gone because the jobs are gone.
00:53:14.000So Joe Biden says, I'm going to trust the scientists on what we should do.
00:54:26.000They'll protest some fat old Trump supporter waving a flag, but they turn a blind eye when the government comes out to locking people in their houses.
00:54:32.000LARPers with attitudes for sure, but I think isn't a solution this a rapid test that you can just take every day or you can take it when you go somewhere.
00:54:41.000Just test test all the time with this is this would be the unreliable.
00:56:35.000Because I was just having this realization today that really the FDA and regulations and clinical trials and all that, that is what's standing in our way of ending all this.
00:57:24.000But the idea was people would beg for it and not realize for five or ten years that the next generation... So now in DC, there's a story you sent me, Yeah.
00:57:33.000They just approved, 10 to 3 approved, children can get vaccinated without the parents knowing.
00:57:40.000So imagine this, vaccines can have adverse reactions, that's a fact.
00:57:46.000Complications tend to be rare, but they do happen, especially if you've got, you know,
00:58:38.000Dude, when you sent me the link of the video timestamp for my DC city council, like approving some bill like that, it made me laugh that you were paying that close attention to the DC council.
00:58:50.000Well, when I saw that the story came out saying the D.C.
00:58:52.000City Council has voted, they said they plan to finalize a vote allowing children as young as 11 to get vaccinated without parental consent, I looked up the hearing and I watched the video of them all voting on it.
00:59:06.000Yeah, and it's not even just that it's without parental consent, but it is a legitimate conspiracy to keep parents uninformed, where the doctor can order the vaccine for the 11-year-old who has given their, quote, informed consent to the 11-year-old, right?
00:59:25.000And then they bill the insurance company without notifying the parent.
00:59:29.000And then when the insurance company sends you a statement, They can leave out the description of benefits.
00:59:35.000So you have no idea what that service was.
00:59:38.000So the whole, there's no paper trail, there's no anything.
00:59:43.000When you go to the hospital, they ask if you've taken any medications recently, you know, if you know, and there, and there's probably, they might tell the kid, like, here's what you should or shouldn't do after getting this vaccine.
00:59:53.000If the kid has some kind of complication and the mom doesn't know, the mom could do something very serious that could harm the child.
00:59:59.000Or, or just the fact that how can you do that to my child?
01:00:02.000What, what, what troubles me is establishing some notion that an 11 year old can give consent.
01:00:08.000Now I have, I listen, Tim, Tim, you know, you know, that we know some people that trade in crazy theories and we know that there's a universe out there for crazy theories.
01:00:16.000And there's one crazy theory that I've never given any credence to, which is that There's some sort of grooming, a future grooming of like pedophilia, right?
01:00:24.000Like making it okay for adults to have sex with kids, which is obviously the most disgusting thing you can think of.
01:00:30.000And I've always discounted, I've never paid attention to it.
01:00:32.000Sure, there's instances where children are molested and assaulted.
01:00:38.000But when you start defining legally the fact that an 11 year old can give informed consent, to where else can they give this level of consent at 11 years old?
01:01:02.000And people started saying, uh, what do you mean?
01:01:06.000Like, it's not like, maybe you're trying to say like, if you're 50 and you're dating someone who's 20, it's still kind of weird, but like, it's illegal.
01:01:15.000But like, you're going the wrong way with this one.
01:01:19.000And so when I brought this up to some of my friends and family about this new law in DC, which luckily has only passed the council, it still needs mayoral execution, which is probably going to get, but then luckily in DC, we don't have home rule for real.
01:01:32.000And so the final law gets approved by Congress.
01:01:34.000I've already started lobbying sympathetic congressmen as a way to get Senate and no, it just gets approved by the house.
01:02:04.000To my friends and family what it meant and they read it and then they just they come back with the most charitable Charitable like oh, well, maybe they didn't word it the right way or that's not exactly what they mean exactly, right?
01:02:17.000It's the same thing when you send people to the old BLM website where it said that they wanted to disrupt the nuclear family and blah blah blah I got rid of that now.
01:02:26.000Yeah, and and you I sent the the guy that that live streamed the Portland murder and I interviewed him for like an hour and a half going through his tape back and forth.
01:02:36.000And at the end, I'm trying to ask him, why are you doing this?
01:02:39.000He's like, my daughter's got me roped into it.
01:02:41.000Not roped into, but she's teaching me about it.
01:04:00.000The problem is, the bigger picture is a decentralized network deciding for itself will be infinitely smarter and faster moving and better than a command economy.
01:04:17.000We need to figure this out before everything goes nuts.
01:04:19.000But I don't, so I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist, but I also don't think a command economy with one person dictating what you should or shouldn't do makes sense.
01:05:20.000And so everyone hears you winning and that makes them gamble more because in a long enough timeframe, the house always wins because their edge is, you know, over a point.
01:05:28.000That's the same thing in terms—that's how I view giving people free choice.
01:05:33.000We've proven consistently that on a long enough time frame, humans tend towards succeeding.
01:05:58.000They don't have to make them decisions for very long.
01:06:01.000Unless of course we're all going to socialize their negative, you know, their, their bad decisions, which is when you get into that hybrid space where you'd give people the freedom to do what they want.
01:06:09.000Then when they make the bad decision, then you have to pick them up and take care of them.
01:06:13.000I remember my dad used to describe to me welfare.
01:06:15.000He's like, son, do you want the people banging on your door looking for bread?
01:07:07.000The problem is when people get addicted to them, and it's just easier to stay on than to get off.
01:07:12.000And so now what we're seeing with the COVID lockdowns is that instead of figuring out a way to survive, a lot of people are just screaming for the government to print more money.
01:07:21.000And that's literally calling for the destruction of your economy.
01:08:09.000For one, the interest rates are in the gutter.
01:08:10.000Because they're like, oh, no, the economy, oh, the interest rates, drop everything down.
01:08:13.000And so you can buy up all this property and get a great rate.
01:08:16.000And the property value is tanking in a lot of places, especially New York.
01:08:19.000And then what happens when they're like, we've just deployed the vaccine and the property values skyrocket back up again?
01:08:25.000The economy collapses, the rich people buy everything up, and then it comes back and now they control everything.
01:08:30.000And it comes and goes in waves, they keep doing it.
01:08:32.000So poor people lose everything, they're struggling, begging for help, and the rich are getting richer.
01:08:37.000Bezos' net worth skyrocketing, Amazon's value skyrocketing, all these big companies, all their revenue, everything's skyrocketing because they locked down small business.
01:08:45.000It's a you know, people are fighting back.
01:08:48.000I saw a little bit I saw I saw like a burger shop who was defying the codes and doing GoFundMes for the fees for the for the fines.
01:09:04.000Yeah, you know, we need we need more of that.
01:09:07.000And I recommend action like that where you're directly if you're going to protest confronting the rule enforcer or the rulemaker that is legitimately authorized by the government.
01:09:18.000Don't put your local hostess at the restaurant in a hard spot by refusing to wear a mask or not complying.
01:09:25.000You know, it's not her decision to just make her life easier.
01:09:28.000It sucks for her to you know, I understand wearing masks.
01:09:32.000I understand wearing masks when you're going shopping.
01:09:34.000I don't understand masks when you go to a restaurant, and you walk in, and they say, right this way, and then they sit you down and you take your mask right off.
01:09:41.000Well, dude, now, uh, in DC, the restaurants are like, you have to have your mask on the whole time, the whole time you're not eating.
01:09:48.000Anytime the waitstaff approaches the table, you must put your mask on.
01:09:52.000And I went out the other night and, and I'm eating and I've got the cloth napkin.
01:09:56.000It's like a really thick, nice white napkin.
01:09:58.000And there they come up with the next drink and they just kind of stand there sheepishly from like six feet away.
01:10:05.000And I went like this instead of putting a mask on, I just went like this with the With the napkin, you know?
01:10:10.000And then the guy's like, that's not how you do it.
01:10:20.000And my girlfriend told me, you know, these people think that they're risking their lives.
01:10:25.000They're risking their lives by doing this service for you and that they're at risk of dying if I don't If the difference between me putting up a cloth napkin versus a cloth face mask is making people insane.
01:10:59.000It's like normal people, and it's a guy wearing that gigantic... It's a gigantic thing you put over your head, and it's got a vent that pulls air in.
01:11:07.000It's like a clear front and a big... It's like you're going underwater.
01:11:11.000It's like normal people, and then under it says conspiracy theorists, and it's people smiling and having turkey and Thanksgiving.
01:11:27.000The conspiracy theorists are the ones who want to have school open and the ones who want to have Thanksgiving and travel and get back to work and open up the economy.
01:11:36.000Tim, if you were an 85 year old grandmother with 12 grandchildren all in grade school right now and you thought yourself you had two or three years left of life, Would you demand that your grandchildren be deprived of their senior prom and their last varsity year of sports and hanging out with their friends so that you can live out one or two extra years of your life?
01:12:53.000And I was like, what do you think about Republicans?
01:12:55.000And he said something like, I don't know that the Republicans are doing anything that I could actually complain, like, actually, like, talk about at all.
01:15:12.000I've taken, you know, I think the day after, it was the Sunday after the election, I took the day off, like, for the first literal... I'm taking a day off.
01:15:21.000The only times I've ever had off is because, like, I lost my voice, or I had to get, like, a tooth, you know, fixed or something, and so I had no choice but to take a day off.
01:15:27.000This was literally me being like, eh, I'm gonna go ride my bike, and then I rode my bike 32 miles, and people were like, that's not a day off, dude.
01:15:32.000It's like, you rode your bike 32 miles.
01:16:23.000I don't know what's going to happen because the lockdown stuff is getting crazy.
01:16:28.000But we're probably gonna do, uh, right now, within the guidelines, like, we can have events.
01:16:33.000You know, we don't have a hundred people, we just have, like, you know, maybe twenty people.
01:16:37.000Which is apparently fine, but we're also in the middle of nowhere, so, like, no one's coming out here.
01:16:41.000But, uh, the goal is to just do some events, and- and start filming videos, and, uh, the vlog channel's gonna be more... just fun and shenanigans, I guess.
01:16:49.000Just- just- just to, like, uh... It- it's- it's a combination of, for one, Things are gonna start, it depends on what happens, I guess, if all hell breaks loose in the next month or so.
01:17:01.000You know, the reason why I do political commentary is because there's too much to talk about.
01:17:05.000There's just so much going on all the time.
01:17:07.000But I also think it's expanding the business.
01:17:11.000I can only do so much as an individual, and if I'm going to create different verticals, different genre content channels, So the vlog channel was planned a long time ago.
01:17:22.000This channel we're on right now was originally the vlog.
01:18:19.000And so the reason why you get into this groove where I read everything.
01:18:23.000So it's like when I see a story and they say, you know, Donald Trump declares X, I say, oh, wow, because he declared Y back then, which means this.
01:18:33.000I do think it's funny when I see like I'll notice something, and there's oftentimes, as much as the left won't admit, they hate admitting it, or they don't actually watch my content, there's a lot of stuff that I report that's fairly original, and then I see it pop up and a bunch of people start saying similar things, and then, you know, it becomes a meme or something.
01:18:51.000But at a certain point, you know, it's like, political commentary, I feel like, is just one direction that has its cap, and if I'm gonna expand the business and do more, that means I gotta lead the charge.
01:19:02.000So, that's been one of the biggest challenges.
01:19:05.000There's no, what do they call it, like a turnkey business?
01:19:08.000Where it's like, you click the button, walk away, and the business takes money?
01:19:54.000No, because I've been focused on it my entire life.
01:19:58.000Because I was 14, 9-11 happens, then we get all the war stuff, all of the music videos, all the celebrities, everything, they're screaming in my face.
01:20:05.000Barack Obama comes around, we're going to end these wars, I vote for him, then he lied to me.
01:20:10.000So I started working for non-profits, and then it was literally endless.
01:20:14.000I'll tell you what, man, I worked for a non-profit in California, and it was when the Deepwater Horizon thing happened, when the oil spill happened in the Gulf.
01:23:39.000And it requires me to like, I'm not as, like so much time is consumed on my other show, which is an hour and 45 minutes a day of political commentary and various news stories.
01:23:49.000And that's a lot harder to produce and it's tough, but.
01:23:54.000So for me, coming here, you're right, easy, easy to not have to prepare a whole lot.
01:24:01.000For my interview show, I spend probably 10 hours preparing for each interview.
01:24:07.000Read their latest book, read their latest commentary, be up to speed.
01:24:10.000and go slow and like get into it and I wish I could put out two or three of those a week but I can only do them in bursts like eight and ten at a time over like two or three weeks and then I'm just exhausted because it's so much work.
01:25:36.000It worked out for the past two years because we had the midterms until the 2020 election, but now I'm like, you mentioned that music video, right?
01:25:43.000I wrote that song, I wrote the story, the music video, everything it's based on, I executive produced it, so basically the animation directors, the animators in the studio who put it together, they did a bunch of brilliant stuff like the color changes, each different political faction has a different color, but basically they'd send it back to me and say here's what we need to do, here's what we need to do, so one of the things we did was They they added something that's really interesting at one point in at the last verse as a science on the TV It says don't trust the wolf something They just added and then I said make the kid holding a stuffed wolf animal in the under the bed So now it's like yeah, and so basically
01:26:21.000I came to them with a story, I dictated it, Nishiro recorded me telling the story of what the song's gonna be, basically what it is, and then I performed it, wrote the lyrics, and then helped produce the video.
01:26:34.000There's a ton of other ideas I have for a bunch of really great short films and documentary stuff that I've never been able to produce.
01:26:41.000So at a certain point, if I want to actually expand, I have to stop hyper-focusing in one area, pull back, and then dedicate more time in another area.
01:26:50.000So if I do only two of these segments a day instead of six, my show would be cut down to about...
01:26:58.000Uh, my main podcast would be about 50 minutes.
01:27:01.00050 to 55 minutes, down from an hour and 45.
01:27:05.000This show would be exactly the same, but that means I could finish up way earlier, and that means I can spend more time shooting the vlog content, selling merch, making cool stuff, playing with lasers and gadgets.
01:27:17.000Also, though, hiring people to do documentary films, like doing legit long-form documentary stuff, real impactful stuff.
01:27:24.000Sending out a crew to go and cover a big political issue and giving them like a decent budget and stuff that requires oversight So that's kind of the part of the plan moving into management Tim.
01:27:37.000Yeah, so it's it's like I mean what it's it's that's what happens Well, it's not that's what it happens like man It's just like I hit I'm at this point where if I just do the exact same thing I do every day six segments then this show that's the plateau and How do you expand beyond that?
01:27:55.000If I'm the person who's physically doing it all, I can't hire someone to do commentary for me.
01:27:59.000I can't be like, you know, hey, you talk fast here, come sit here and record this segment for me, I'm gonna leave.
01:28:03.000I can create a channel where we have a variety of hosts who do certain things, so there's definitely plans for more content, but that means I have to free up some of the time throughout the day to bring on more people to do more stuff.
01:28:13.000And so part of it is, I'm gonna have more time to, for one, Exercise, skate, but we're going to film that and we're going to use that for a brand and merchandise and just having fun.
01:28:24.000And at the same time, that's, you know, I could I could still theoretically do all that right now because I have that about hour every day.
01:28:31.000But then I want to do like that music video.
01:29:00.000You know, I've gotten beautiful offers from big companies that would have set me up for life.
01:29:06.000And I'm like, yeah, but, you know, I gotta be honest, like, I don't think, I think a lot of people who work at some of these companies who, so I've been to these big podcasting companies and they're like, here's what we're offering you.
01:29:16.000And I'm like, I don't think you're as good as business as I am.
01:29:21.000I think if I was in charge of this with no contracts and nothing holding me down, I'd make way more money.
01:29:26.000So at a certain point, I need to create a brand that can house more than just me and my name.
01:29:33.000So I can bring on people who I think have talent, who need a place to get that, you know, step up opportunity or whatever.
01:29:39.000People who are really good at something, but don't know how to get that path forward.
01:29:43.000So you're a capitalist in the capital sense of the word at this point.
01:29:47.000Not that you weren't, but I'm saying, but I'm saying moving, moving to, you know, trading your labor for using your capital and putting that to work.
01:29:55.000Yeah, I know a lot of people who have some skills that they probably can't market.
01:30:00.000It's how skateboarding works, for instance.
01:30:03.000Pro skateboarders are struggling right now because the industry has changed dramatically.
01:30:07.000It used to be you got a sponsorship from a company.
01:31:24.000They have like, this is the craziest thing about North Korea.
01:31:26.000They have skate parks and their kids who are told like your job will be to be able to be a skateboarder and that we'll make sure you always have your board and you go to the skate park and you skate and get good.
01:31:38.000But Tim, I think the moral of the story here for you is in today's day and age, and especially with the audience that you've built already, do what's fun.
01:31:47.000And your audience is going to go with you.
01:33:23.000I invested it and I started doing that, went down that route and then started doing more and more.
01:33:28.000And it's funny because people think like we bought this really, I bought this really big house and people are like, wow, Tim must've won the lotto.
01:33:33.000I'm like, dude, I was trying to buy this property a year and a half ago and then COVID happened.
01:33:37.000So it was a year and a few months ago, I was touring buildings, trying to find it.
01:33:43.000Our sale fell through, and then winter hit and made everything really hard to go and check things out.
01:33:48.000But then when COVID happened, it was like, that was the end of it.
01:33:51.000So then when it came to, at a certain point, we were on a hiatus for four or five months.
01:33:56.000I was like, no, we got to force this through by whatever means necessary.
01:34:01.000Because otherwise we're just sitting here doing nothing and it's the same thing every single day.
01:34:59.000So it's just like, might as well just send someone out.
01:35:02.000That was the Sunday special with Ben Shapiro, which is really funny because a lot of these lefties who are the leftist YouTube people, they're, man, I gotta say, they're low information people.
01:35:13.000They're not good at connecting the dots.
01:35:15.000And I don't know if it's just the active Twitter people who do it or whatever, but they're like, they're spreading this meme around that I refuse to have people on my show because we don't have good enough internet or something like that.
01:35:24.000I don't do Skype, but that I did a Skype with Ben Shapiro and I'm like, I didn't.
01:35:32.000And then I sent the file to be uploaded.
01:35:35.000It was like, I'm honored, I thought it was a good show, but it was like, we did a standard call, low-res, not-broadcast-quality conversation where I could hear him, and then he would ask and then I would answer.
01:35:49.000And then I took the hard file and had to upload it because it was... Long story short, first of all, we don't have actually... Is there a screen anywhere in front of you, Jay?
01:36:00.000I have this little monitor down here and we have multiple people and we're not set up in any way for Skyping and the internet can't handle two streams up and down.
01:36:10.000It's bad enough that our internet cuts out.
01:36:11.000Could you imagine if in the middle of it, our guest cuts out, we can't come back?
01:37:22.000You know, the sound quality must have been really good when you did it the way that you had done it, because you had hard live recordings in each places, and then they just merged.
01:37:28.000The video, everything was pristine, perfect quality.
01:37:31.000And I'm like, did you not realize that I had a 4K video, no artifacting, perfect audio, it was 83 gigs, and then we sent it out for upload, and then they edited them together.
01:37:42.000Yeah, some people notice, they're like, yeah, I realize it sounded like you were giving your answers to specific questions.
01:37:48.000I'm like, right, because that's the only way we could really do it.
01:37:54.000I guess the other issue too is like, first of all, I don't go on anybody's shows, but I made an exception for Ben Shapiro, because he's Ben Shapiro, it's a big show, and I've interviewed him in the past, and so he hit me up, and I was like, yeah, okay.
01:38:08.000But there's a lot of shows, I won't go on people's shows for the most part.
01:38:12.000I got very little time at all, and so that was it.
01:38:16.000I'm sorry, I woke up at 7, reading the news, start recording, start my research from 8 to 4.30, recording and everything, and then from 4.30 until 6 or whatever, it was setting up and doing the recording for Ben.
01:38:31.000Then once I was done, I grabbed a bite to eat, came upstairs, and we did the next show.
01:38:36.000It's one of the reasons I don't do other people's shows.
01:38:38.000One thing you've been talking about, which I think is good for people to remember, is you have to be very mindful with your time.
01:38:44.000You have to be very deliberate with your decisions around your time and time management.
01:38:50.000I personally have been working to try to make sure that I say no to enough things so that I can say yes to the things that are important to me.
01:38:58.000I've had some pretty big shows, and I'm just like, Yeah, I can't do it.
01:39:03.000The traditional ones, I used to ignore.
01:39:05.000Like, when I get hit up by, like, you know, Fox News, I don't want to call them out, but I'm just like, there's literally no upside for me to spend my time.
01:39:15.000Like, if you want to offer me a hard contributorship, they pay millions of dollars, some of these people.
01:39:54.000No, but, uh, you know, I think, I kind of feel like, I mean, no, sure, I'll say it.
01:40:00.000I mean, it's pointless not to, but I think, you know, I think Joe Rogan took the Spotify deal because what the Wall Street Journal reported was like a hundred million dollars.
01:41:45.000If somebody takes a massive payout to do that big jump, for me, in my personal opinion, and I mean no disrespect to Howard Stern or Joe, I look at it like it's a retirement.
01:41:56.000It's like, you do this hard work, you do it for a long time, you reach the top of the mountain, what do you do?
01:42:01.000Someone comes along and says, we're gonna cash out your chips.
01:42:46.000It's just an interesting thing to think about, sort of setting up a walled garden around your content and what is the goal of what you're doing.
01:42:53.000I mean, I remember listening to the Joe Rogan podcast back when there was just, it was just this tripped out weird intro and they were just talking about MMA and his comedian friends and that was it.
01:43:25.000Joe's podcast was on Ustream, I think, and he was getting like decent viewership.
01:43:29.000But it was just like the Joe Grant experience on Ustream.
01:43:32.000It was, you know, and so people were tweeting at him.
01:43:34.000You got to have Tim Pool on your show.
01:43:36.000And so he tweeted at me something like, yeah man, I'm down, let's make it happen.
01:43:40.000We DM'd, and then I was like, super excited.
01:43:44.000And so, I wasn't trying to push it, because I was, I think I was 25, and I'm like, this is gonna be awesome, Joe Rogan's a famous comedian.
01:43:52.000So I bought a plane ticket, and I said, okay, he's booked me, he's told me where to be, he's told me the time.
01:44:09.000I can't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor.
01:44:11.000But I was smart about it, and I said, there's an event, a protest happening in L.A., so I definitely have something I can do while I'm here, and I can hang out with people, so it was a bummer.
01:44:19.000And a year goes by, and people are tweeting at Joe again, like, dude, you gotta get on Tim Pullen, now it's 2012.
01:44:25.000And he tweets at me, and he's like, you know, we tried doing it last year, and it didn't work out.
01:44:31.000And I was like, yeah, let's do it, man, for sure.
01:48:45.000You know, after the fact, I was like, oh, there's a couple of things I could have done better, but whatever.
01:48:50.000I'm not, I wasn't there for anybody, but you know, I wasn't there for, for, for other people.
01:48:54.000I was there because there was a lot of things I was angry about, a lot of things I had seen that I wanted to talk about.
01:48:59.000So it didn't, wasn't an issue, but I do think they thought it was going to be, why did you ban Alex Jones?
01:49:05.000And they're going to be like, because he said this, and I would go.
01:49:09.000No, it was like there's a deeper philosophical questions about what does it mean to break the rules?
01:49:13.000What's the political perception on your rules?
01:49:16.000And who made you the arbiter of what's acceptable politics and stuff like that?
01:49:20.000Yeah, and it was clear, too, that they seemed to be learning things from you at that time, and they don't know exactly what's all going on inside of their big corporation.
01:49:48.000I did a live stream in like 2016, I think, because people had asked me about what had happened with Joe Rogan.
01:49:55.000And so I did a stream explaining what happened and I just said, listen, man, I'm not mad at anybody because I can't get mad at someone for not doing me a favor.
01:51:21.000And what's interesting to think about it is if he had had you on earlier, it would have been less impactful than you going on later when his audience had grown and his reach had grown such a dramatic effect.
01:51:36.000And now you're talking about skateboarding.
01:51:38.000Yeah, well, so the last time I went on earlier this year, it was because... I probably shouldn't... There was somebody else who wanted to do a political discussion, left, right, like, you know, me, him, and Joe Rogan, and I'm like, you're still just like... One of the problems with these conversations on Joe's show is often it's liberals and leftists talking about conservatives without bringing a conservative on.
01:52:00.000He's had on Crowder before, I think, too.
01:52:04.000The Twitter thing was, you know, Rogan's pretty left, and then I'm, like, left-leaning but, you know, very critical of critical race theory and, you know, like a disaffected liberal type.
01:52:15.000But there were no hardcore conservatives in a conversation about conservative censorship.
01:52:19.000So that's that's one of the things, too.
01:52:21.000So, you know, I went on Rogan's show earlier this year because we were supposed to do like leftist commentator me and Joe and then Covid happened.
01:52:31.000So the other person was like, I can't I can't make it.
01:52:33.000And then and so I was like, I'll come whatever.
01:52:41.000I had a guy join the liminal order and I interviewed him just the other day who told me that he first started listening to Joe Rogan, then he heard about you and then he saw me on your show.
01:52:51.000So the Joe Rogan radicalization funnel is in full effect.
01:52:56.000Starts with Joe, passes through Tim, ends up with me, radicalized, doing all kinds of man stuff.
01:53:03.000It's just amazing the way that the network works and how you put out content and people come to you and how This whole web is just being woven all over the country.
01:53:55.000Because one of the things we were talking about, it's like, OK, this is going to be risky.
01:53:59.000YouTube's like, you know, trigger trigger happy if we if we bring on some controversial figures.
01:54:04.000But I'm like or so it was proposed to me like we should talk about all these other things outside of, you know, basically once the media shifted to the Trump narrative, it's been Trump talk politics all all day, nonstop.
01:54:25.000I am booking a whole new slot of guests for my podcast, Jack Murphy Live on YouTube.
01:54:29.000And I'm deliberately trying to stay away from politics, history, culture, science, futurism, actors, comedians, like really trying to go with evergreen content back to things that can really help people in their lives rather than just Swing in for the fences with the, you know, brawling in the political sphere.
01:56:08.000I don't, I don't know where they're at now, Division 2, but it's basically, there's a pandemic causes, you know, basically complete collapse.
01:56:15.000And then, but the cool thing about it is that- I thought we were getting away from politics.
01:56:19.000Well, but it's a game where it's like a Tom Clancy game.
01:56:21.000You play as a special operative, the president enacts presidential directive 51, creating, you know, remnants of the government trying to hold things together.
01:59:49.000And we know the good news now for the neocons and the warmongers is that with Joe Biden in place, rest assured, they'll be bombing kids in no time.
02:00:10.000Ginger Prime says, Hey, Tim, I'm another fence sitter and love the content.
02:00:12.000And honestly, that being said, I listen to Will of the People every day and want to know when we can get a video and professional version of Words in a Book.
02:00:22.000I guess if, uh, at a certain point, if I... So right now my main channel, my first channel I ever put together was youtube.com slash TimCast.
02:00:31.000But it's the other channel where I do five.
02:00:34.000If I wind that down to just one in the morning, and then one at four, I'll have tons of time to... I could record a whole album in a week.
02:00:40.000Because, like, Nishra is the one who produced the song and did all the arrangement and everything, so... I've got like a thousand songs in there.
02:00:55.0009TailedFox1000 says, Tim, I am totally convinced the Dems stole the election, and if Trump told the American people to take up arms in his name, I would happily do so.
02:01:04.000That is a very similar comment that Reuters published, and I think it freaks me out.
02:01:13.000Yeah, I I I have no idea sentiment won't go away.
02:01:17.000It won't go away I don't think Trump is gonna ask anybody to do that I'm pretty sure he's gonna fight it as far as he can in the courts, and then that'll be that shadow government Come on I mean, something's gonna happen.
02:02:02.000There's a Joe Biden eating a small child and he has a bunch of them.
02:02:05.000And, uh, you can check him out at G prime 85 on Instagram to see all the other art he has.
02:02:09.000But, uh, I think, I don't, I don't know if he sells them, but I, I hit him up and said, dude, we gotta get, you know, full frame of these comics because they're amazing comics.
02:02:18.000We have one with, uh, Trump, Joe, uh, Joe Rogan and Joe Biden.
02:02:24.000Captain Spence says we need to start protesting outside police departments, asking them not to enforce lockdowns.
02:02:29.000We must protect our liberty and rights to assemble.
02:02:53.000I, you know, and, and I think the bigger issue is that when Gavin Newsom and other Democrats flaunt the rule, like just disobey their own rules, nobody believes it's serious and it's their fault.
02:03:02.000They extinguish all credibility with their Corona posture when they accepted and encouraged the protests and the riots this summer.
02:03:10.000And this public health officials came out and said, racism is more of a public health issue than Corona.
02:03:22.000If the financial crisis wasn't bad enough in 2008 and nine where nobody took any penalties for the fleecing of the American economy and the stripping of the Treasury.
02:04:10.000It's almost like we're in, you know, I wonder if we're in a simulation and they're doing an experiment to see at what point conservatives just, like, lean back and then, like, and just go back to work.
02:04:26.000And then conservatives can watch that happen and be like, but I'm not going to sell my t-shirts at my clothing store.
02:04:32.000It's like the levels of willingness to break the law on the left are just like off the charts and conservatives are all the way at the bottom.
02:04:38.000OK, but it's important to remember that those Antifa activists and protesters and rioters that deliberately go out and put them.
02:04:44.000They know their coach that they can get arrested and that they have a defense fund and they have people that are getting them out on bail.
02:04:51.000There's a system that facilitates that.
02:04:53.000So it's not necessarily about like, how bold are we?
02:04:56.000It's, is there an ecosystem with appointed judges and DAs and the whole thing where they know that they're going to be okay?
02:06:56.000It could be that they're just trying to slow things down and slowly wind things down so that his supporters calm down and then get past it.
02:07:03.000If they announced the election, boom, one day, and then Trump conceded, people would go nuts.
02:07:09.000So it's like everything's winding down really slowly to keep the temperature down.
02:07:13.000I tell you this, if Trump does end up conceding at some point, it's going to be on a Friday at midnight.
02:07:49.000Joshua Cherkinski says, if you want to know more about Operation Warp Speed, you should reach out to Jose Arrieta, former CIO of HHS and lead data team on COVID Task Force.
02:07:58.000He's absolutely brilliant and he has been asked by several news outlets for interviews.
02:09:22.000Cause at a certain point people are like, I feel this way.
02:09:25.000I'm like, how many times have I said, oh, they're riding again and getting away with it instead of doing something that makes a difference?
02:09:32.000So I'm not, I'm not a protest organizer, but we're going to put on events and we're going to help build culture, generate culture, art.
02:09:39.000So, you know, one of the biggest problems the modern, the new right has.
02:09:44.000The right has always had terrible art.
02:09:46.000Here's the greatest advantage conservatives have right now.
02:09:49.000We have a general agreement on fundamental principles in freedom of speech and individual liberty and, you know, the foundation of this country, the Constitution, etc.
02:09:59.000So even though I am left-leaning independent, left on a lot of economic policy issues and pro-choice and stuff like that, I agree more on a ton of issues that are fundamental to the existence of this country with conservatives.
02:10:13.000And now, people like me and other artists are now finding themselves being, you know, on the right.
02:10:19.000Or being told they are, even if they don't agree with the right on every issue.
02:10:22.000And now, the right is starting to get cultural victories.
02:10:50.000It's interesting that you're talking about doing stuff with the culture right now, because part of the reason I think that Daily Wire moved to Nashville was because they wanted to expand into the culture.
02:10:57.000And people like Andrew Klavan who write novels, people like Sean Parnell who write novels, they're a big part of the culture war too.
02:11:03.000I think that's significant and hopefully we get better movies too.
02:11:07.000There's a pro skater who got asked to promote a brand and the brand did something critical race theory-ish.
02:11:15.000And all of the comments from this person's followers were Trump 2020, MAGA, and this dude, he's like early 20s pro skater, was super confused like, what's going on?
02:11:25.000Like I'm getting flooded with all this MAGA stuff.
02:13:02.000You don't have people who are making content that goes viral in cultural issues like with popular music and with skateboarding who are coming out and being straight up pro-Trump.
02:13:29.000We're looking at other ways to influence culture like that and to spread the values out there in the world today for sure.
02:13:36.000Yeah, and Tim, you know, you're talking about getting out of politics and focus on making change and adding to culture and doing something fun and interesting.
02:13:43.000That's what I decided to do two years ago and I spend most of my time engaged with the guys in the liminal order and just doing our programming there and actually being a force for good and actually being a force for positive change rather than Just droning on, no offense to me or to you or to any of us about politics all day long.
02:14:00.000You've said it best where you're like, how many more times can I say, hey, the Democrats did this and it's wrong?
02:14:07.000So at a certain point, it's like, I'm going to I'm going to keep doing it, but we're going to make space to be like, we're going to be hanging out.
02:14:13.000Someone's going to roll up and I'm going to be like, dude, if you want this new set of wheels, I got to see I got to see some flip and flip out, man.
02:14:20.000I want to see Nali flip backside tailslide.
02:14:23.000I'll tell you what, I'll throw in some bone Swiss if you big spin out.
02:14:27.000Most people probably have no idea what you just said.
02:16:15.000And they don't know anything about it.
02:16:16.000But I tell you what, you come to me and say, Michael Bloomberg wants to run, he's gonna pay you a million bucks to do a video for him, I'm gonna be like...
02:16:25.000You give me no stipulations as to what the video's about, I'll make a video about Michael Bloomberg, and then I'll make an hour-long documentary about how awful he is.
02:18:07.000And so when she finally sued to get taken down, he knew what he was talking about.
02:18:12.000The title of the video was commentary and criticism.
02:18:16.000You can show someone's video, raw, as it is on their channel, and then put the title, and it is fair use.
02:18:24.000By showing her video and titling it SJW Levels of Awareness, it was apparent to everybody, the judge, even Akilah's own lawyers.
02:18:32.000Who, for some reason, she changed lawyers.
02:18:35.000I can only imagine it's because they knew, you're gonna lose.
02:18:38.000But they even said in their, like, one of their initial filings, that the only reason he uploaded the video was to make fun of or, like, disparage.
02:18:45.000And so the judge was like, you acknowledge this was criticism?
02:19:11.000I could be wrong about this, but I believe she sent an email saying, like, they wanted to settle for 40 grand.
02:19:16.000And so he just was like, no, thank you.
02:19:19.000He just won, uh, he just won, uh, he didn't just win, but he won his court fees.
02:19:25.000Not only did he win the case, it is fair use, he then sued for court fees to be paid back because she was on Twitter gloating that she was trying to take him for all he's worth and like, you know, bankrupt him and stuff and mocking his family.
02:19:38.000And so I guess the judge said, this is not a good faith copyright suit.
02:19:41.000This was meant to drum up a celebrity or something like that.
02:20:21.000This seemed to have been resolved, at least the legal fees resolved recently by her doing a GoFundMe, which means her fans are paying Sargon.
02:20:28.000And I just read about that today, which is what I meant when you brought up Sargon earlier.
02:20:32.000I was like, oh yeah, that thing that just happened in the news.
02:20:35.000So you threw me for a loop there, but we're on point now.
02:20:39.000We got too many superchats coming in, I'm trying to... Blazing.
02:20:42.000Yeah, trying to reach as many as we can.
02:20:44.000Ben Jordan says, love Will of the People, Tim.
02:20:55.000Because, I mean, that's, like, I'm not... I'm gonna do maybe a marketing thing to boost the song, just because I can, and I think it'd be fun.
02:22:29.000Ryu Kirito says, apparently Andrew Jackson made his own party when the presidency was allegedly stolen from him and they voted Democrat for the next 100 years.
02:24:25.000Utopia is the creepy show because they filmed that pre-COVID.
02:24:29.000Utopia was filmed before COVID happened, and it is a show about a wealthy SJW who fakes a pandemic so that the FDA forces through a vaccine at the last minute at the demand of the people, and then it sterilizes everybody.
02:24:40.000I want to read the book or see the British version.
02:24:42.000The original British version is creepy and weird.
02:24:45.000It has great music and great cinematography.
02:24:49.000So at the end of this SJW one, is there one class of people that is spared from the disease that comes through the vaccine that sterilizes folks?
02:26:22.000safety off says bro if you follow through with events slash culture you jack and team could literally be the catalyst to save this nation we all need guidance on how to organize and be heard as high levels are being excommunicated from society oh we're gonna have comedy shows here we're gonna film them and the jokes are gonna be uh gonna be offensive comedies like i was watching family guy the other day Probably the most racist thing I have seen in a very long time was their episode where the Griffins are like running from the cops.
02:29:36.000We're going to learn about this real fast before we sign off.
02:29:39.000So the division is about a pandemic destroying New York.
02:29:44.000And then you go into it to, to like fix everything.
02:29:48.000Operation Dark Winter was the codename for a senior-level bio-terror attack simulation conducted on June 22nd and 23rd, 2001.
02:29:55.000It was designed to carry out a mock version of a covert and widespread smallpox attack on the U.S.
02:30:02.000Tara O'Toole and Thomas Inglesby of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies, Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Randy Larson and Mark DeMere of Analytic Services were the principal designers, authors, and controllers of the Dark Winter project.
02:30:17.000They say, Dark Winter was focused on evaluating the inadequacies of a national emergency response
02:30:23.000during the use of a biological weapon against the American populace. The exercise was intended to
02:30:27.000establish preventative measures and response strategies by increasing governmental and
02:30:31.000public awareness of the magnitude and potential of such a threat posed by biological weapons.
02:30:36.000And then basically in the game, some dude steals it.