Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Judge Says Maxine Waters May Have OVERTURNED The Chauvin Trial w-DC Riot Bros

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:37.000 you I along with many others had been warning that the ongoing

00:01:03.000 riots were likely going to corrupt the criminal trial of Derek Chauvin.

00:01:07.000 The defense attorney for Chauvin begged the judge to sequester the jury.

00:01:12.000 The judge said no.

00:01:14.000 Now, I am very impressed with this judge to now hear him say that Maxine Waters' threats against the jury Look, man, I thought Judge Cahill was a fairly reasonable guy.

00:01:30.000 I thought he was being fair, not just giving the defense what they wanted.

00:01:33.000 But, you know, going back and forth, and I thought it made sense. 0.99

00:01:35.000 But this has to be one of the stupidest things and one of the biggest blunders in judicial history. 0.99

00:01:41.000 Because we know the severity of the riots. 1.00

00:01:43.000 We know it affected the entire country.

00:01:45.000 And the defense kept saying, you need to sequester the jury, and the judge is like, no, no, it's fine, it's fine.

00:01:51.000 And then Maxine Waters comes out, and she goes, if we don't get a first-degree murder conviction, which, as you know, Chauvin wasn't charged with, then we gotta get more, more active and get in the streets and get more confrontational.

00:02:02.000 More confrontational than burning down an Apple store or a police station.

00:02:05.000 And, uh, you know, what we saw last year.

00:02:07.000 And the judge now has the nerve to be like, You know what?

00:02:11.000 Maybe, on appeal, the entire trial will be overturned now.

00:02:15.000 It's almost like it was on purpose.

00:02:16.000 So we're going to talk about this.

00:02:17.000 We've got a bunch of stories surrounding what's going on with Maxine Waters' statements, how it's affecting politics.

00:02:22.000 But we've got a bunch of non-political stuff.

00:02:25.000 I want to talk about The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, because I've been watching that show, and everyone thinks it's getting woke, and I think it's getting anti-woke, but we'll see what happens.

00:02:31.000 So hanging out today, I guess just two members of the DC Riot Squad?

00:02:35.000 Which one?

00:02:36.000 You fight over it.

00:02:36.000 Who goes first?

00:02:37.000 Mr. Richie McGinnis.

00:02:38.000 Oh, why, thank you.

00:02:38.000 Thank you so much.

00:02:39.000 You gotta talk into the microphone, Richie.

00:02:41.000 Richie McGinnis.

00:02:42.000 Yep.

00:02:43.000 DC Riot Squad slash Daily Caller Video Squad at Richie McGinnis and at Daily Caller with my boy Jorge.

00:02:50.000 Jorge over here.

00:02:52.000 Yeah, you know, Phil's correspondent, Daily Caller, and yeah, you know, I guess we originated with the, you know, DC Riot Squad, so glad to be back and, you know, for an exciting week.

00:03:03.000 Both of you guys were on the ground during the riots.

00:03:05.000 That's true.

00:03:05.000 Yep.

00:03:06.000 Multiple truths.

00:03:07.000 Both of you guys have been on the ground for basically every single riot of the past year.

00:03:10.000 Well, not literally everyone, because there's like multiple cities at the same time, but most of the big consequential ones, like notably Kenosha.

00:03:16.000 And so, what's important here, and I think it's gonna be great, because not only were you guys in Minnesota, you guys were in Minnesota, right?

00:03:21.000 Just now, yeah.

00:03:21.000 Not only is that relevant for all the news, but there was some legal analyst speculating that the riots are going to have a ramification on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

00:03:32.000 Because they're telling the jury, do what we want or we burn this place down.

00:03:37.000 And so, you know, one legal analyst said, what do you think is going to happen when it comes to the jury in the Rittenhouse trial?

00:03:41.000 They know what they're going to be there for.

00:03:42.000 They're going to be like, no way, dude, am I getting involved in this?

00:03:45.000 So we're going to talk all about that.

00:03:47.000 We also got Ian, he's chilling.

00:03:48.000 Ian Crossland, at Ian Crossland.

00:03:49.000 Richard, Jorge.

00:03:51.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:03:52.000 How do you feel about being called Richard?

00:03:54.000 Is that what you're giving me?

00:03:55.000 That's what my mom calls me when I'm in trouble.

00:03:58.000 I knew it!

00:03:59.000 When you're in trouble.

00:04:00.000 How old are you?

00:04:02.000 She still says it.

00:04:05.000 Like when I go to Minneapolis and I'm like, I'm in Minneapolis, mom.

00:04:08.000 Sorry, mom.

00:04:09.000 There's a bunch of gunshots going off.

00:04:10.000 Richard.

00:04:11.000 I told her day off when I went to Kenosha.

00:04:13.000 Hey, by the way, I'm in Wisconsin.

00:04:15.000 And she said.

00:04:16.000 All caps, don't be a hero.

00:04:18.000 She asked you to get like a big life insurance policy because you're taking no for real, like work.

00:04:23.000 Conflict reporters usually get big life insurance policies because like, dude, come on, like they're shooting each other out there.

00:04:28.000 Do you ever go straight up rich? 0.99

00:04:31.000 Or dick? 0.99

00:04:32.000 I'm hoping to be rich in name. 1.00

00:04:34.000 I like where your head's at.

00:04:36.000 Because of Dogecoin?

00:04:38.000 Oh yeah!

00:04:40.000 Don't get him started.

00:04:41.000 Tomorrow's the day of Doge.

00:04:43.000 Alright, alright, we got Lydia suppressing all the buzz. 0.99

00:04:44.000 I'm in the corner.

00:04:45.000 I'm the least interesting person on this podcast tonight.

00:04:48.000 It's gonna be a great night.

00:04:48.000 I'm looking forward to hearing what's going on in Minneapolis.

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00:06:09.000 Let's get to the news.

00:06:11.000 We got the story from DailyMail.co.uk.

00:06:14.000 Maxine Waters may have handed defense grounds for appeal and the turning over of this trial. 0.72

00:06:20.000 Derek Chauvin trial judge blasts abhorrent Democrat for calling for riots if no conviction.

00:06:26.000 They say Derek Chauvin's defense attorney Eric Nelson called for a mistrial after the jury retired on Monday.

00:06:31.000 He cited Rep Maxine Waters comments on the case as he argued there was no way the jury could be unbiased given constant media coverage.

00:06:37.000 He's right.

00:06:38.000 Now that we have U.S.

00:06:39.000 representatives threatening acts of violence in retaliation to this trial, it's frankly mind-blowing, Nelson said.

00:06:45.000 Judge Peter Cahill replied, I grant you Congresswoman Waters may have handed you grounds for appeal and the turning over of this trial.

00:06:52.000 But Cahill refused to grant a mistrial and adjourned the court until the jury comes back with a verdict.

00:06:57.000 It wasn't just that.

00:06:58.000 The defense argued prosecutorial misconduct.

00:07:01.000 Because in rebuttal, the prosecution said that I guess they were telling stories and it was nonsense and repeatedly kept saying that it was essentially fabrication of facts, which you're not allowed to do.

00:07:15.000 In court, the prosecution is supposed to say, You know, our expert testified to this, and we hold this to be correct. 0.99

00:07:21.000 You can't say the other person's making up crap and they're lying and telling stories.

00:07:25.000 And so when the defense said, you know, objection, the judge said, overruled, don't say stories again, but, you know, he's allowed to say stories. 0.96

00:07:32.000 Then when the prosecution kept berating the defense and insulting them, the judge finally stepped in and was like, okay, you gotta stop doing that.

00:07:37.000 This is what bugs me.

00:07:39.000 We just saw, how long were the riots going on so far in Minneapolis?

00:07:44.000 They've been since, well the recent ones since last Sunday, the death of Daunte Wright.

00:07:49.000 So about 8 days?

00:07:50.000 A week?

00:07:52.000 Nelson immediately, the defense for Chauvin, asked the judge to sequester the jury.

00:07:57.000 And he said, so they don't watch the news, they don't see what's going on.

00:08:00.000 And the judge said, well, I'll instruct the jury not to watch the news.

00:08:04.000 And the defense argued, everyone knows about what's going on.

00:08:08.000 Everyone's talking about it.

00:08:09.000 And he was saying that even TV shows, fictional TV shows on Thursday night, NBC or whatever, are referencing the trial and making statements about what they want to occur.

00:08:20.000 And so he's like, you need to sequester them.

00:08:21.000 The judge initially said no.

00:08:23.000 Then, after the riots started with Dante Wright, then he was like, Judge, I'd like to ask you again to sequester the jury.

00:08:28.000 And the judge was like, I don't think we need to do that.

00:08:31.000 And now the judge is like, well, the jury, the trial may be completely overturned.

00:08:35.000 That's incompetence.

00:08:36.000 What does that mean, overturn?

00:08:37.000 Is that a mistrial?

00:08:38.000 So, it means there'll be a verdict, then the defense is... Let's say the jurors come back and say guilty on all counts.

00:08:45.000 I mean, let's say the jury comes back and says acquitted on all counts but manslaughter.

00:08:49.000 No matter what happens now, the defense can file an appeal to a higher court saying Rep Maxine Waters, Democrat, came from California, came to our state and said, unless we get a conviction for premeditated murder, which they didn't charge Chauvin with, we're going to get more confrontational.

00:09:08.000 What does more confrontational mean?

00:09:08.000 They've already been rioting.

00:09:11.000 Yamiche, is that her name?

00:09:15.000 Yamiche Alcindor said the right is claiming that Maxine Waters called for violence because she said, get more active and more confrontational.

00:09:23.000 That's not a call for violence.

00:09:25.000 And I'm like, confrontational?

00:09:27.000 What does that mean?

00:09:28.000 Like confronting somebody?

00:09:30.000 If you're already burning down their buildings and throwing bricks at cops, what is more confrontational than that?

00:09:35.000 Now the judge is admitting Yep, there it is.

00:09:37.000 The jury of course knows.

00:09:39.000 They've been threatened, and they're going to burn the city down no matter what.

00:09:42.000 Because she said first degree murder, and they don't have that.

00:09:45.000 And I thought at a minimum they would at least sequester before the weekend started.

00:09:48.000 They didn't even do that, and that's obviously when Maxine Waters came in. 1.00

00:09:52.000 I mean, I think just being on the ground, one of our reporters, Lisa Benetton, she did a great video where she asked folks, hey, you know, what happens if you don't get, you know, if you guys don't get murdered?

00:10:01.000 And people literally say, and that are from Brooklyn Center, said, we're burning it down.

00:10:04.000 Turn it down.

00:10:04.000 Everybody.

00:10:05.000 And they don't need, I would say, you know, with Maxine Waters' comments, it's like you're just giving these people more power to just say, hey, if we do this, we're good to go.

00:10:14.000 And I think a lot of those folks are going to point to Last Summer and say, hey, we go out and, you know, do our thing.

00:10:18.000 It's OK, because Kamala Harris was there to bail us out just like last year. 0.85

00:10:22.000 And I think that's something that we have to keep in the back of our mind.

00:10:25.000 I think all the cops should resign.

00:10:27.000 I think every single cop in the Minneapolis area should just resign right now.

00:10:32.000 Just get out of there. 0.77

00:10:33.000 Just leave.

00:10:34.000 That's tough.

00:10:35.000 They voted for it.

00:10:37.000 They did.

00:10:38.000 And I know right now, the big difference right now is compared to last year is, you know, being on the ground is, I guess Minnesota with the law enforcement, They didn't have a communication system between, you know, the Minnesota State Troopers, National Guard, and then local police.

00:10:50.000 So coming this year around, being on the ground reporting, we learned that now Minnesota has created a program called Operation Safety Net.

00:10:56.000 So now we have the National Guard, local police, and state troopers now working all basically now hand-in-hand to control these groups.

00:11:02.000 I will say this, I think, you know, Richard, you know, being on the ground again in Brooklyn Center, They did a great job of protecting the police department.

00:11:08.000 You know, they put the barricades, they had the law enforcement there, but one thing that we have to remember, and I try to tell these folks all the time, is when you have so much law enforcement, you know, concentrated on just one area, it leaves the rest of the city stretched thin.

00:11:20.000 I mean, just, and I said this last, this was reported yesterday, but numbers might even be higher, but since last Sunday of Daunte Wright's death, The police department in Brooklyn Center, which is a little small town area, they have already received over 200 calls of either businesses damaged, looted, or burglaries.

00:11:35.000 And that's one thing that we had to remember is when you have so much protection at the police center, the rest of the city... That whole shopping mall is literally right next to the police station.

00:11:42.000 Like, that whole shopping mall that was looted on the first couple of nights.

00:11:46.000 It's like a hundred yards from the whole police station.

00:11:49.000 This is why I'm saying the cops should resign.

00:11:51.000 Or at the very least, you know, we had I think it was Tom Rogan.

00:11:54.000 He mentioned they should give notice that in 30 days They'll all resign.

00:11:57.000 That'd be interesting.

00:11:58.000 I've been speaking to some inside sources inside the Portland PD from last summer And when I was speaking to a police officer, she said the morale is low.

00:12:05.000 She says we have people transferring You know, just literally retiring early.

00:12:11.000 And I mean, I would expect that we see the same thing here.

00:12:14.000 And I know that we were speaking about this before the show, Tim, but the Minnesota Senate just approved $9 million to get out of state law enforcement to help out, you know, with this upcoming week.

00:12:25.000 So, you know, pray for these guys because, yeah, they take a lot of beating when they're out there.

00:12:30.000 There are low- I've heard from a lot of people in the comments, they're like, Tim, these cops who are staying are doing it because they know there are good people who need to be protected.

00:12:37.000 You know, the way I described it was, your house is on fire, we repeatedly tried- we tried fighting the fire last year, but a bunch of people in the house voted for the arsonists.

00:12:46.000 Kamala Harris, who's bailing these people out, soliciting funds.

00:12:49.000 Joe Biden, whose staff is funding the bailouts.

00:12:52.000 And I'm like, so, at that point it made sense to be like, stay in fight, figuratively, have, you know, show people what this means, and then vote for somebody who will defend you, and they went Democrat.

00:13:02.000 They voted for the people who are defending the rioters, not the cops.

00:13:06.000 So now you got a problem.

00:13:07.000 Now your house is burning down, and the people you think you're helping are screaming at you to get out while the house burns down around them.

00:13:13.000 So I understand the analogy where it's like, we gotta help the people here who are good, and I'm like, I get that, but at a certain point, don't you say?

00:13:19.000 Like, the people- like, imagine a firefighter goes into a burning house, and he's like, I'm gonna get you out of here, ma'am, and then she, like, just grabs on and squeezes a flaming beam as tight as she can.

00:13:27.000 He's like, no, I'm staying!

00:13:28.000 The firefighter's gotta get out before he gets, you know, engulfed in the flames.

00:13:32.000 I'm- look.

00:13:33.000 The people who are there who are good people, what are they doing to defend these cops?

00:13:37.000 Do we see press conferences held by community leaders and activists and neighborhood watches saying, we support our cops and we need them here to protect us?

00:13:43.000 No.

00:13:44.000 But what do we see?

00:13:45.000 We see endless riots in support of shutting down and abolishing the police.

00:13:50.000 So at a certain point, the police need to send a message.

00:13:53.000 If you're not getting the support, nobody wants you there, they voted for the people who hate you, then you need to say, okay, then I'll pass it off to you and then see what happens.

00:14:02.000 You know, the metaphor I'm thinking of is that ten guilty people go free before one innocent person suffers.

00:14:07.000 And I think that these people that aren't speaking up are the innocent bystanders that I don't want them to suffer.

00:14:12.000 That's a different analogy.

00:14:13.000 That doesn't work.

00:14:14.000 I'm not sure if you guys have seen the news, too, is one of the city council members from Brooklyn Center came out and said, hey, you know, I get the emotions at heart, but we should wait for due process.

00:14:21.000 Got fired.

00:14:22.000 So that was the city manager.

00:14:23.000 Yeah.

00:14:24.000 And then a councilwoman for Brooklyn Center admitted she voted to have him fired because she was scared they would come after her.

00:14:30.000 Alright, personal responsibility takes precedent at a certain point. 0.81

00:14:35.000 If you would fire a city manager who called for due process because, you know, this cop shot this guy, and then publicly say, I'm scared they'll attack me, okay, you need to either stand up for what you believe in, Or, don't come to me for help when you vote to support these lunatics.

00:14:52.000 Look, at a certain point, you gotta throw water on the fire too.

00:14:54.000 But what I think it is, Tim, from being on the ground, and I think Richard could attest to this, is we spoke to a lot of residents who don't support, obviously, the constant clashes in their neighborhood, the destruction.

00:15:03.000 The only thing is, they're actually afraid just to even go on camera with us and interview because they feel like, hey, if I go on camera with you, they'll literally destroy Exactly.

00:15:10.000 myself tomorrow.

00:15:11.000 Well, if you're house, I think there is a lot of community people that do want to stand

00:15:14.000 up.

00:15:15.000 They want to speak out.

00:15:16.000 I think they're just super afraid of the retaliation because if they feel like the media, the culture,

00:15:20.000 everyone is against since Trump, since Trump left.

00:15:23.000 I mean, very much like during, you know, the last year, a lot of the riots have been like

00:15:28.000 us versus the federal government.

00:15:29.000 Allah, Donald Trump, no Trump, no KKK, no racist USA.

00:15:33.000 But now that Biden's president, it's the system itself.

00:15:36.000 And so you're right.

00:15:38.000 Like the protesters on the ground, I think the ideology has shifted even even further

00:15:43.000 left because basically now it's like. 0.72

00:15:47.000 Okay, now you really adopt our plan or else you're a fascist as well. 0.55

00:15:50.000 So Biden's a fascist if, you know, he doesn't adopt Abolish the Police effectively.

00:15:53.000 Look, I get messages from people all the time where they're like, I got my family out of Minnesota last week or I'm moving next month or I'm trying to move out now.

00:16:01.000 I get messages from people who say I moved out six months ago.

00:16:04.000 I've got messages from people where they were like, man Tim, I'm glad you said to get out of the city because I got out before the latest riot started and I lived real close.

00:16:12.000 So listen, I hear what you're saying about people scared to go on camera.

00:16:16.000 The Founding Fathers, many of them who signed the Declaration of Independence, were killed, had their homes burned down, their families were killed, they risked everything to stand up for what they believed in.

00:16:26.000 At a certain point, you don't get to be a pampered Golden Age American who can sit in your home and just kick your feet back and say, I'll keep my head down and be fine.

00:16:34.000 Because it is expanding, it is getting worse.

00:16:37.000 There are a lot of pundits saying they think the riots after the Chauvin trial are going to be worse than we saw last year.

00:16:40.000 It's one thing to see the anger over the death of George Floyd.

00:16:43.000 It's another thing to see the state say he didn't do anything wrong, depending on what the result may be.

00:16:49.000 So, Maxine Waters wants a charge that didn't actually happen. 1.00

00:16:52.000 First-degree murder, premeditation.

00:16:54.000 So, based on her own logic, riots are coming.

00:16:57.000 If at this point, the people are unwilling to stand up and defend themselves, okay, well, do you expect, like, the people who are speaking up, not even from your area, who are speaking out and risking their careers, who are getting cancelled, losing their jobs for defending, you know, what's true and what's correct, you expect them to come to your aid when you won't do it yourself?

00:17:19.000 There's that famous line about a leader who says, I would never instruct one of my men to do something I wouldn't do myself, or one of my, you know, men or women.

00:17:27.000 Yet here you have people who won't stand up for themselves asking you to do it for them.

00:17:31.000 And so there are cops who are like, I will.

00:17:32.000 I'm like, nah, at a certain point, if you're a cop and they're all turning their back on you, refusing to stand up and even say the words, I support you, then you don't have support from them.

00:17:42.000 No matter what they think, no matter what they're telling people, they're lying.

00:17:46.000 Somebody who truly supported you would stand up, hold a press conference, we support the police and we reject this.

00:17:51.000 They won't do it.

00:17:51.000 Why?

00:17:52.000 Because they're scared of the extremists and they aren't willing to fight back.

00:17:56.000 In a figurative sense, in any capacity.

00:17:58.000 So at a certain point, the cops gotta be like, then you're on your own.

00:18:02.000 Because what happens?

00:18:03.000 Kim Potter, a 26-year veteran.

00:18:05.000 There's a guy wanted for aggravated robbery.

00:18:08.000 Dante Wright.

00:18:09.000 He's resisting arrest.

00:18:10.000 He's wanted on a gun charge, so they know he's likely armed.

00:18:13.000 I believe he had a .45 Ruger.

00:18:14.000 Jumps into his car, and she doesn't know what's going on, and she draws her weapon.

00:18:19.000 Presumably, the story is she thought it was her taser.

00:18:21.000 She shoots him.

00:18:22.000 This is a tragedy, but when you have a guy wanted for an aggravated robbery, it's like robbing someone with a deadly weapon.

00:18:28.000 And then he jumps in his car.

00:18:30.000 You're like, OK, he's he's resisted and he made his act.

00:18:33.000 It's active aggression.

00:18:35.000 Should she then defend herself or defend others?

00:18:38.000 Well, she said she made a mistake for that. 0.93

00:18:40.000 The prosecutor comes out when he came out during the riots, I guess, and said we are going to do everything in our power to see her held accountable through this system.

00:18:49.000 Okay, she deserves it. 0.92

00:18:50.000 She absolutely deserves whatever the system throws at her because all of these cops have been watching what the feckless, pathetic, spineless people of their community have been doing. 0.98

00:18:59.000 Selling them out. 0.98

00:19:01.000 Sacrificing them to the mob, and they thought they'd be safe.

00:19:04.000 They thought the mob would ignore them.

00:19:06.000 They thought they could stand there as a part of the system, propping up injustice, and they would be safe.

00:19:11.000 Nah, not anymore.

00:19:12.000 You helped prop up a bunch of arsonists burning down your community, and now you're mad that you're caught in the fire?

00:19:18.000 I can't run into a burning building you chose to be in. 0.96

00:19:20.000 I don't like this metaphor because the people of the United States are sucking off the teat of the Federal Reserve, bankrupting the world, and we don't deserve to die and be burning in hell for it. 0.98

00:19:30.000 You're punishing people for something they're not necessarily responsible for or were ignorant of. 0.81

00:19:33.000 The Federal Reserve has nothing to do with this.

00:19:35.000 The people of the United States are spearheading the global catastrophe financially.

00:19:39.000 Ian, you gotta get back on subject.

00:19:40.000 You're talking about the people of the city being responsible because they're not saying anything.

00:19:45.000 No, because they voted for Kamala Harris.

00:19:47.000 Some of them, but not all of them.

00:19:48.000 The majority of the state voted for the people who support the riots and they stay there and they won't speak out.

00:19:53.000 There's a huge number of people that didn't.

00:19:55.000 And they don't deserve to be punished.

00:19:58.000 Are they bailing water?

00:19:59.000 Are they bailing water?

00:20:00.000 Are they bailing water?

00:20:00.000 No, no, no, no.

00:20:01.000 I think the reason they're not is because they're not organized, and if one of them sticks their head up, it is going to get cut off.

00:20:05.000 They won't even say the words?

00:20:07.000 I don't know, man.

00:20:08.000 They won't speak up to save their own lives?

00:20:10.000 Then you get no sympathy from me.

00:20:12.000 You have the option to simply stand up and say, hello, good journalist Jorge, I wish the police had more support.

00:20:17.000 They won't even do that.

00:20:18.000 They're scared.

00:20:19.000 Well, I'm sorry, man.

00:20:21.000 Life is not always candy canes and rainbows.

00:20:24.000 And when violent terrorists come to burn down your neighborhood, you at least have to say, please stop.

00:20:29.000 At the bare minimum, say, officer, please help us.

00:20:32.000 They won't even do that.

00:20:33.000 So, if you've got terrorists burning down your city, and you don't have the ability to at least say, help?

00:20:39.000 Sorry.

00:20:39.000 Yeah, but like Jorge was saying, if they get on camera and they say help, their business is going to get destroyed the next day.

00:20:44.000 All that is required for evil to succeed is that good people do nothing.

00:20:47.000 Yeah, but or good people put themselves out there vulnerably.

00:20:51.000 That also helps evil succeed.

00:20:52.000 Why?

00:20:53.000 How does that make evil? 0.65

00:20:54.000 Because they get killed easy.

00:20:56.000 People need to stand up and at least do something instead of nothing.

00:20:59.000 You're saying- They gotta organize.

00:21:00.000 They might risk themselves.

00:21:01.000 Well, it starts by speaking.

00:21:03.000 Well, but not randomly and incoherently.

00:21:06.000 Who said anything about random and incoherent?

00:21:07.000 Not like one random person to get up and be like, I'm gonna make- I'm gonna be the guy that makes a stand and gets my bir- If they formed underground like the Founding Fathers did- Okay, dude, dude, dude, dude.

00:21:16.000 You brought up the Founding Fathers as a metaphor.

00:21:18.000 Your argument is absurd.

00:21:19.000 This is the taxpayers who fund the police refusing to state that they support the system. 1.00

00:21:25.000 King George, I hereby declare you're an idiot because they would have been executed on the spot. 1.00

00:21:25.000 Yes, they did. 1.00

00:21:30.000 No, they had to organize underground.

00:21:32.000 For maybe a certain period, but they literally had constitutional conventions in their states

00:21:36.000 and sent delegates and they voted on these things.

00:21:39.000 Right, but it was all underground.

00:21:40.000 These people are paying for the police, they're paying for the government, they're paying the politicians, and voting for them.

00:21:46.000 And I'll tell you this, the people who voted for it, why would I argue they don't want it?

00:21:51.000 If somebody was in Minneapolis and said, I want Joe Biden, whose staff members support the riots, and I want Kamala Harris, who supports the rioters, and then the rioters come to burn down their house, I can only assume they're going, yes!

00:22:01.000 I voted for this.

00:22:02.000 I'm happy it's happening.

00:22:03.000 Why would you assume they made that mistake?

00:22:05.000 I don't know what was in their mind.

00:22:07.000 It's like that guy in Los Angeles, when the riots were in downtown LA or whatever, and he was cheering, this is awesome!

00:22:11.000 Yeah, burn it down!

00:22:12.000 And then when they came within a block of his house, he goes, no, stop!

00:22:15.000 Don't come to my house! 0.67

00:22:16.000 Do you think it's that, or do you think people were misled by the portrayal of what has been going on for the past year?

00:22:23.000 If they knew, you know, the full extent of what has been happening.

00:22:27.000 Personal responsibility.

00:22:29.000 Too many Americans for too long have been fat and lazy, figuratively and literally, sitting around, not paying attention, thinking everything would be done for them.

00:22:37.000 And I'll put it this way.

00:22:38.000 Firefighters risking their lives because the DAs won't prosecute these people.

00:22:43.000 You want to get mad at cops?

00:22:44.000 Okay.

00:22:44.000 Why should a firefighter risk his life running into literal burning buildings that are collapsing?

00:22:49.000 Because when the police make arrests, the DA cuts them loose.

00:22:52.000 You want to support your community?

00:22:53.000 You need to speak up and do it.

00:22:55.000 But if people are sitting back saying, someone will do it for me, eventually your house falls down because you're not maintaining it.

00:23:01.000 I cannot You guys cannot.

00:23:03.000 And the police cannot be the people who are begging, just carry your own weight, dude, for once!

00:23:09.000 They won't do it.

00:23:10.000 They won't.

00:23:11.000 So they vote for it.

00:23:12.000 And it's, I'll tell you this, ignorance is no excuse for supporting tyranny.

00:23:17.000 I understand the media manipulates.

00:23:19.000 I hate them for it.

00:23:19.000 I understand that these extremists are terrorizing and threatening them.

00:23:24.000 But if you don't stand up and just at least try, and no one does, then tyranny wins.

00:23:29.000 This is why I brought up the Federal Reserve and the U.S.

00:23:31.000 people.

00:23:32.000 Ignorance is no excuse for supporting tyranny.

00:23:34.000 We live in the empire. 0.84

00:23:36.000 So being ignorant of that is not an excuse to support that.

00:23:39.000 That's correct.

00:23:40.000 That's my point.

00:23:40.000 You're right.

00:23:41.000 But I don't want to punish and destroy everyone.

00:23:43.000 You mean you wouldn't join Antifa is what you're saying? 1.00

00:23:46.000 Well, I just, I have this stupid sympathy for those ignorant people. 1.00

00:23:50.000 I don't want to see them suffer. 1.00

00:23:53.000 No one does.

00:23:54.000 Well, you're making the argument that you want the police to leave so that... I'm sorry, Richie, what?

00:23:58.000 What breeds that ignorance?

00:23:59.000 Like, why aren't people aware of that?

00:24:01.000 Laziness. 0.92

00:24:01.000 We live in a media-manipulating society with the internet. 0.92

00:24:05.000 Wealth.

00:24:05.000 We, for too long, have been people in good times breeding weak individuals, weak citizens, who don't care about civic duty or responsibility.

00:24:14.000 And I'm not talking about some nationalistic whatever.

00:24:16.000 I'm talking about literally being like, going and giving your firefighters some brownies and being like, thank you for everything you do.

00:24:22.000 Or going to your cops and talking to them about issues you're concerned about, you've heard about in the media.

00:24:25.000 They don't even do that.

00:24:27.000 They don't even do that.

00:24:27.000 It's just media manipulation, political sectarianism, and a bunch of lazy disinterested people who are like, I'm keeping my head down because I got it good.

00:24:36.000 Okay, listen.

00:24:38.000 There was a period in our country, in our nation's history, where death was like, you died.

00:24:46.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:46.000 Looking at these stories from back in like the old pioneer days in the Wild West, people understood risk and responsibility.

00:24:52.000 And they had to wake up at 6 in the morning and farm and go to bed at 11 at night and it was work, work, work all day every day.

00:24:58.000 Now we have all of the comforts of the first world.

00:25:00.000 We have fast food, McDonald's.

00:25:02.000 We have too much food.

00:25:04.000 Americans are gaining weight like crazy and they're doing less work. 0.99

00:25:07.000 Now you have a whole sect of people who are leftists who think they shouldn't have to do work at all.

00:25:12.000 We are just becoming, as a country, we reject responsibility for our own lives and our own selves, and we say the police will do it.

00:25:20.000 And then when the police can't do it and they're overrun, well, I'm not gonna speak up, someone else will have to do it.

00:25:23.000 Okay, well then, listen man, if a fire is raging towards your home, and you're like, I'm not gonna put out a firefight, I'll get here.

00:25:29.000 Okay, well eventually your house burns down.

00:25:31.000 That's not me saying I want your house to burn, I don't want your house to burn down.

00:25:34.000 But it's also me saying I don't want my firefighters to die because you refused to start turning your hose on!

00:25:39.000 At the very least you could have done that, right?

00:25:41.000 And wet your house down?

00:25:43.000 Now your house is a raging five alarm fire and the firefighters are the ones who are going to die because of you?

00:25:47.000 That's why I'm saying the police need to back out before things... Look, I'll tell you what's going to happen.

00:25:53.000 The cops stick around, we get a Kim Potter situation. 1.00

00:25:56.000 If the cops right off the bat said, we won't stand for this.

00:25:59.000 Well, then Kim Potter wouldn't have been there to create another circumstance that they use to light the country on fire. 1.00

00:26:04.000 I'm not saying I know what the solution is, but I can tell you this.

00:26:07.000 It's a Chinese finger trap and the cops keep pulling and you're not going to get out of it. 1.00

00:26:10.000 You keep doing this.

00:26:11.000 The people around you won't support you.

00:26:12.000 So something needs to change and it's changed now.

00:26:15.000 So people realize what's happening.

00:26:17.000 Even when the cops are there, I mean, Kenosha, there were no firefighters and no cops like in the situation where they were actually needed like a shooting or a fire.

00:26:24.000 You know, we saw they were basically focused, like Jorge was saying earlier, entirely on the riots.

00:26:28.000 And so like, over the last year, if you look all at all the criminal data across the country, I mean, that's effectively what's been happening is the police are paying attention to these the civil unrest and not paying attention to the violent crimes that actually really impact the communities.

00:26:42.000 Yeah.

00:26:43.000 Well, one thing, too, that is interesting that I think we'll start to figure out in these couple months is how each city, major city, deals with the potential civil unrest and the communication they've used.

00:26:54.000 In Los Angeles, the Los Angeles County Sheriff, Alex Villanueva, he came out aggressive and said, hey, we got National Guard on standby.

00:27:01.000 We got all this stuff.

00:27:02.000 We are not playing around compared to last year.

00:27:05.000 And according to some sources on the ground, I mean, LAPD, so far as I know this past week, has been handling the demonstrations pretty well.

00:27:11.000 And I think I think Los Angeles, I mean I don't know about every city, but I know Los Angeles has, they for sure are going to fix the mistakes they made last year because their county sheriff is a little bit aggressive, but I do definitely see what Tim is saying.

00:27:23.000 They need, the police officers or law enforcement, they need some type of support.

00:27:27.000 It needs to come from somewhere.

00:27:29.000 In Portland, I speak to a lot of the officers, they feel like their work is useless because they'll make the arrests, they'll do all this stuff, but then the district attorney will say, off the hook, off the hook, off the hook, and that's going to bring morale down.

00:27:40.000 And I think in Los Angeles, what we're seeing is we're seeing an L.A.

00:27:42.000 County Sheriff say, hey, we're taking the aggressive lane.

00:27:45.000 We're ready to go.

00:27:46.000 We have National Guard on standby.

00:27:48.000 And I know the D.A.

00:27:49.000 down there, George Cascone, is not a guy they like.

00:27:52.000 He's super progressive.

00:27:53.000 But even the L.A.

00:27:54.000 County Sheriff is saying, we don't even care what the D.A.

00:27:56.000 is doing.

00:27:57.000 We're going bullhead, all forces in.

00:27:59.000 And so far, L.A.

00:28:01.000 hasn't seen that violence that we've seen in other cities.

00:28:05.000 What's the Internet's definition of insanity?

00:28:07.000 Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome?

00:28:10.000 That was Einstein, yeah.

00:28:11.000 Was it Einstein?

00:28:12.000 I think it was a meme.

00:28:13.000 So you got these cops in Portland who are like, I'm gonna arrest this guy for breaking the law.

00:28:16.000 And then they bring him to the station and the DA goes, you're free to go.

00:28:18.000 And they go, hey, I know, I'll arrest him tomorrow for breaking the law.

00:28:22.000 And the DA goes, you're free to go.

00:28:24.000 The woman who was accused of setting fire to the police union building, she was arrested last year on some serious charges and they just cut her loose and dropped the charges.

00:28:32.000 Then she comes back not even a year later and burns down the police union building.

00:28:35.000 And then they release her without bail.

00:28:37.000 At a certain point, man, I don't know what these cops think they're doing.

00:28:40.000 It's like, there's this meme video where a guy's... What else can they do, though?

00:28:44.000 Leave! 0.99

00:28:45.000 I mean, but you got bills to pay.

00:28:47.000 You know, that's not realistic for somebody who literally... If your house is burning down, will you be like, I can't leave, I'm homeless?

00:28:52.000 I'll be homeless.

00:28:52.000 But it's like my house is burning down, but my family's going to starve if we don't stay.

00:28:56.000 So you stay in a house that's literally on fire.

00:28:58.000 You're still getting a paycheck, you know, as long as you're alive, as long as you're breathing.

00:29:02.000 What you just said is very interesting.

00:29:03.000 What you've said is it's actually safer and easier for the police to be in the violent riots in a system that's broken and not working than it is to actually leave and go somewhere, somewhere that would be more Because what is a cop's future employment in this current climate right now?

00:29:18.000 Oh, hey, I just left the Portland PD.

00:29:20.000 You want to hire me to be an NBC correspondent?

00:29:23.000 No, no, no.

00:29:23.000 Think about that.

00:29:24.000 Think about that.

00:29:24.000 That means while Minneapolis burns down, it is actually safer and more secure for an officer to be an ineffective and villainized individual working for the department than it is for them to move their family to any other city for any other job.

00:29:38.000 I put it this way.

00:29:40.000 If a small portion of my garage caught on fire, I wouldn't expect everyone to run screaming from the building.

00:29:45.000 I'd expect someone to go with a fire extinguisher and just put a little fire out.

00:29:48.000 If the fire eventually engulfed half the building, then the safety is, okay, at this point, you stay in the building, you're probably going to die.

00:29:55.000 You need to get out.

00:29:56.000 The fire right now isn't big enough to where the cops feel threatened.

00:30:00.000 And I think, well, I think basically the fire here, you know, the responsibility of the fourth estate is literally to call out when there's a fire when nobody else is willing to.

00:30:08.000 Like the government, you know, obviously isn't... Fourth estate, you say?

00:30:11.000 Yeah.

00:30:11.000 Well, so, I mean... You guys made me.

00:30:14.000 Well, I mean, basically... Not the mainstream media.

00:30:16.000 Well, I think we have the internet now.

00:30:19.000 And I do think when we started out covering the riots at the beginning of the year, we were saying the term protesters, not calling them rioters necessarily.

00:30:27.000 Let me pause real quick.

00:30:29.000 I'll pull this story up as a good launching point.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:30:31.000 We got this story from Willamette Week.

00:30:33.000 Marchers set fire to Apple Store and shatter windows across downtown Portland after police killing.

00:30:39.000 The scale of damage tonight recalled the riots last May.

00:30:43.000 Here's what I love about this article.

00:30:44.000 They say it's a riot last night, but right now they are marchers.

00:30:49.000 The media is absolutely shielding these people.

00:30:51.000 That's for sure.

00:30:53.000 Well, I think I was trying to make the point kind of from the other side, which is it's just as bad to then come out there and label every single person who's out there in a situation where, you know, police start banging up against the front line of protesters.

00:31:05.000 They declare unlawful assembly.

00:31:07.000 Some of those people were out there with good intentions.

00:31:09.000 If you say BLM terrorists in every single tweet, then basically you're throwing yourself into that trench, the other trench.

00:31:16.000 And so you need people in the middle who are just trying their best to look at both and say like, okay, so we use the term protester because it's like same as the Capitol riot.

00:31:26.000 There were certain people there who were caught up in the madness, the Lord of the Flies effects of the chaos.

00:31:30.000 You start getting pepper sprayed, it's pretty hard to make logical decisions.

00:31:35.000 So using that neutral terminology wasn't good in the short term.

00:31:39.000 I was like, Jorge, you're not going to get as many retweets.

00:31:41.000 But in the long term, people started to pay attention because they're like, oh, these guys are actually here and they're actually trying their best to actually just show, fly on the wall, what's going on.

00:31:48.000 How many people have you heard actively call for the cops to resign or leave?

00:31:54.000 I mean that's a good point though.

00:31:55.000 Probably only me, right?

00:31:56.000 Yeah.

00:31:57.000 Because my position is, I understand that everyone out there is a violent terrorist.

00:32:00.000 But there are many violent terrorists.

00:32:02.000 I understand a lot of people go out there and they're peaceful protesters.

00:32:05.000 The problem with the leftist activists is that they espouse support for what's called diversity of tactics.

00:32:11.000 Have you heard this phrase from Antifa?

00:32:13.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 Diversity of tactics basically means that if you're a peaceful protester, you are supposed to defend or at the very least tolerate violent extremists who are burning things down and attacking police.

00:32:24.000 Respect the diversity of tactics.

00:32:26.000 It's an excuse.

00:32:27.000 They have systems where they need bodies. 0.68

00:32:29.000 You're right.

00:32:30.000 They exploit that.

00:32:31.000 That's for sure.

00:32:31.000 So there are regular peaceful protesters who go out there knowing this, and then say, but I had good intentions, even though I dressed in all black to shield the extremists.

00:32:40.000 Now what they say about the police is, if you have, what do they say, if you have 1,300 good cops and 12 of them are bad, and the 1,300 good cops won't call out the 12 bad cops, then you have 1,312 bad cops.

00:32:48.000 the 1300 good cops won't call out the 12 bad cops, then you have 1312 bad cops.

00:32:55.000 I think it's right, 1312, ACAB?

00:32:58.000 And so the point the left is making is the same.

00:33:00.000 The cops who refuse to speak out and stop the bad cops are just as bad.

00:33:05.000 So I look at that and I'm like, there's no legit solution between two warring ideologies convinced that this side is evil, but there is one simple solution.

00:33:13.000 If the people of these neighborhoods won't defend the police, that means the police don't have their support, and the other people in these communities, be it maybe a smaller percentage, are actively voting against the police.

00:33:26.000 And the police have a very simple answer.

00:33:28.000 Instead of arguing about who's evil and who's not, you leave.

00:33:32.000 You don't gotta worry about support, you don't gotta worry about the violence, and you don't gotta worry about... They asked for it, they get it, and everyone's better off.

00:33:38.000 So my only point is, you're a commentator, right?

00:33:41.000 Your call for the police to do this or that, that's legitimate.

00:33:46.000 Our role here is to be on the ground and to say what we're seeing.

00:33:49.000 And so when you have the entire media whose responsibility is to be on the ground and say what they're seeing, and they're either trying to portray this in this light or this in that light. 0.97

00:33:58.000 I got my ass beat by cops in Wauwatosa with a billy club. 0.97

00:34:02.000 And I showed the frickin' bruise on my knee, and everyone's like, oh, the bootlicker, finally! 0.99

00:34:05.000 It's like, no, no, no.

00:34:07.000 How many times have I shown, you know, the BLM snack van getting the window smashed in D.C. 0.94

00:34:12.000 by this white shirt cop who just decided to smash a frickin' window?

00:34:15.000 We're not like choosing, oh, no, the cops are good, so we're not gonna post that one. 0.70

00:34:19.000 It's like that, but that's the way that this should have been covered from the start.

00:34:23.000 And the reason why we're in this situation now is because nobody was paying attention to us because it was two different echo chambers.

00:34:28.000 And after time, maybe some people are, but still, you know, it's very much two different trenches.

00:34:34.000 I should, I should qualify my previous statement when I said calling for police to resign.

00:34:38.000 Obviously the left is doing nothing but that.

00:34:40.000 My reasoning is very, very different because they're being sacrificed and disrespected and the people in the community won't do anything to stand up for themselves.

00:34:46.000 So clarification.

00:34:47.000 But yeah, so.

00:34:49.000 You get... That's why I pulled up the Willamette Week thing.

00:34:52.000 Marchers set fire to an Apple store.

00:34:55.000 They torched that place.

00:34:56.000 It was gutted.

00:34:57.000 And they're not marchers.

00:34:58.000 They're... You know what?

00:35:00.000 I think calling the people who did that rioters is being generous.

00:35:03.000 Yeah.

00:35:04.000 Because their political motivations... You think anarchists then?

00:35:06.000 No, a terrorist.

00:35:08.000 Austere marchers.

00:35:10.000 Austere local activists.

00:35:13.000 While me and Rich were on the ground in Brooklyn Center, I caught a few interesting moments on video where you'll find black locals from Brooklyn Center yelling at white, you could call them protesters or agitators, and tell them, we don't want violence in our neighborhoods, we don't condone this, and then tell them, hey, when that 10 p.m.

00:35:34.000 curfew hits, we all want to go home.

00:35:36.000 Because I think one thing that maybe a lot of folks don't know, unless you're on the ground, and I try to put it out as much out there as I can, is what makes this situation for Brooklyn Center Police Department difficult to control this crowd is because right across the street, you have all these apartment complexes.

00:35:51.000 So you have kids in these buildings.

00:35:52.000 So that's one thing that we try to put out there is that a lot of the black locals in Brooklyn Center literally came out and we're telling the white protesters, hey, don't be burning down our city.

00:36:00.000 Don't be doing this to our neighborhoods.

00:36:02.000 We literally have kids here.

00:36:03.000 We have to be here till tomorrow.

00:36:05.000 So I think that was an interesting thing that I was kind of able to capture.

00:36:08.000 We wanted to put it out there.

00:36:09.000 What were the guys named?

00:36:10.000 They all had the vests?

00:36:11.000 They were Minnesota Freedom Fighters.

00:36:12.000 And it was pretty funny to see the Minnesota Freedom Fighters, predominantly black, All go up to the Antifa umbrella gang, which I've been referring to as the umbrella gang because you know, they're basically like rolling around with their umbrellas completely in formation the whole time. 0.83

00:36:27.000 They're bringing like wooden barriers up to the fence and stuff and the guys are like, what are you doing?

00:36:31.000 Yeah, like we're out here to protest.

00:36:34.000 It's not to like smash with police like we're trying to get our voice out here.

00:36:39.000 What is your goal?

00:36:40.000 You know?

00:36:40.000 And then one thing too, Tim, is then the white protesters, the Antifa, would then basically claim that the Black Minnesota Freedom Fighters are working with the police and they're getting paid under the table.

00:36:53.000 So it was interesting to just hear that go down in person.

00:36:56.000 It's because, you look at the data, peaceful protests work.

00:37:00.000 It generates press coverage, which generates sympathy, and then makes political change.

00:37:04.000 It works.

00:37:05.000 And violent riots do the opposite.

00:37:07.000 Like we saw with the Civics poll.

00:37:10.000 After George Floyd's death, net support for Black Lives Matter reached like 27%.

00:37:15.000 And then after the riots, it dropped lower than it had been the year before.

00:37:19.000 People don't like riots.

00:37:20.000 I wish people would realize that the best place to peacefully protest is on the internet,

00:37:23.000 on video.

00:37:24.000 In the 60s, it was you've got a huge crowd so that hopefully you get some media attention.

00:37:28.000 So people will come with a camera and put you on TV, on ABC News.

00:37:31.000 You don't need that anymore.

00:37:32.000 Now you make a YouTube video with 70,000 views, you change 20,000 minds, and then political change happens.

00:37:39.000 A good example though is Twitter.

00:37:40.000 Activists took over Twitter and use it to ban people and destroy the careers of those they oppose.

00:37:45.000 It works.

00:37:45.000 Peacefully protesting.

00:37:46.000 I mean, you know, just from my outsider perspective, I mean, it could have been even more powerful, like let's say when this George Floyd thing happened for them to say, hey, you know what?

00:37:53.000 Let's get a million man march in Washington, D.C.

00:37:56.000 We're going to go up and we're going to demand these bills and we're going to do it peacefully.

00:38:00.000 And, you know, I think that would have been more powerful instead of the riots, because when the riots happened and, you know, me and Rich have been on the ground, One thing that we try to do at the Daily Caller, and I think, you know, not much folks did, is after the riots, we would at least spend a couple days, like, actually talking to the business owners, and allow them to say, hey, we supported this movement from, like, day one, and now we're just, we just don't understand why, and you just turn off a lot of America when you go that, I mean, like I said, I think from an outside perspective, probably would have been more powerful to say, hey, let's get a million people, let's show up in Washington, D.C., let's march peacefully, and, you know, let's demand a set of bills, and I think right now, too, with Black Lives Matter and Antifa, whoever you want to,

00:38:36.000 I don't believe all the businesses, to be honest.

00:38:38.000 a list of demands that's like a legit like hey we're going off this because

00:38:42.000 you know when you speak to one person once person says abolish the whole

00:38:45.000 system then some people say oh we want some police we want community police

00:38:49.000 it's it's a mixed mixed message I don't believe I don't believe the businesses

00:38:52.000 to be honest when I've you guys have been at Berkeley I'd imagine right not

00:38:57.000 So in you go to you go to Oakland you go to Berkeley go to the Bay Area and all the businesses have these pro

00:39:02.000 leftist signs in their windows One of them actually said I remember I was a Burger King

00:39:07.000 and it said this is a family-owned, you know franchise Please do not destroy our windows

00:39:12.000 see that They had to say it out right because it was a Burger King

00:39:16.000 You know, the local brewery just puts whatever left is trash in their window, hoping that it spares them.

00:39:21.000 So when you get a journalist who comes out, because I've talked to people on the record, off the record, I'll tell you this, on the record, they're like, we're big supporters of the movement.

00:39:30.000 Just, you know, we're hoping that they don't destroy our business.

00:39:32.000 You turn the camera off and they're like, I can't stand any of this.

00:39:34.000 What are they doing?

00:39:35.000 I hate it.

00:39:36.000 But they want to say it publicly because they're trying to beg.

00:39:39.000 They're begging extremists.

00:39:41.000 And I'll tell you what happens.

00:39:42.000 This is the product of apathy in politics.

00:39:45.000 The district attorneys who get elected are funded by leftist progressives who will not prosecute their own.

00:39:53.000 So the cops arrest them and they get cut loose and then they set fire to the police union building.

00:39:57.000 Then local businesses are forced to just bend the knee because they have no justice system left to defend them.

00:40:02.000 At what point is it a crime for a DA to release a criminal?

00:40:06.000 I don't think.

00:40:06.000 I don't think it is.

00:40:07.000 I mean like in Los Angeles right now they just elected George Cascone and he's been one of the more progressive DA's and like I was saying the LA County Sheriff and him are just butting heads on everything.

00:40:17.000 I've actually spoken to a few police officers and LAPD on the record and off the record who tell me like hey some of the people that we arrest we charge them for rape?

00:40:25.000 Within like a couple days out on the street and they'll like commit a murder.

00:40:29.000 So that's it's just um, you know, I mean at one point too You have to ask is like, you know work at one point Is it a crime because it's like you're putting your own community in danger and the people that you say that you're protecting Which is always black and brown. 1.00

00:40:40.000 We want to protect the black and brown communities That's where you're actually impacting the most when you do this is the black and brown communities It's like they're not getting these criminals are not getting released in Beverly Hills.

00:40:48.000 I'll tell you that No, if they get arrested in Beverly Hills, they'll get shipped somewhere else But you know who seems to have learned to give up because of politics?

00:40:57.000 These DAs.

00:40:58.000 They're like, whatever man, nobody actually cares about the community anymore, so I'll tell them what they want to hear and then just do nothing.

00:41:04.000 And then, all the chaos happens, like the cops haven't learned yet.

00:41:07.000 They're like, I'm gonna keep doing the same thing over and over again even though nothing's getting resolved.

00:41:10.000 But I guess, hey, when you're getting a paycheck and you got a house, you got a mortgage payment, I suppose...

00:41:16.000 From my perspective, you know, I said this two, three years ago, the escalation.

00:41:20.000 I said, I said this, I think two years ago that we were going to see heavily racialized riots or riots for racial reasons escalate because of a lot of the critical racism.

00:41:29.000 And Tim, I wanted to bring this up too, because I know when we talk about this stuff, it's, you know, riots and all that stuff.

00:41:33.000 But I think one thing, too, we maybe need to look at as a society.

00:41:36.000 And I think maybe the Adam Toledo was a great, not a great example, but something that maybe we could look at as America is.

00:41:42.000 You know, what about the family structure?

00:41:44.000 You know, I think one thing that we're not talking about is a lot of these people who are causing the riots or out there, you know, taking advantage of any civil unrest.

00:41:53.000 What type of family were they raised?

00:41:54.000 Did they have both parents at home?

00:41:55.000 And I think that's another discussion that America needs to start having.

00:41:59.000 You know, I know with Adam Toledo, Yeah, but hold on.

00:42:01.000 To address that point, you realize a lot of these Black Lives Matter people are white progressives from middle class families or upper middle class families.

00:42:08.000 I think there was a... But just because they're from upper middle class family doesn't mean their dad wasn't a shitbag. 0.98

00:42:13.000 No, but their dad could be a lazy middle class intellectual. 0.98

00:42:18.000 Is that the right?

00:42:19.000 He could be a huge Wall Street guy who made them millions of dollars, and he's rich as heck, but his daddy was never there, and he's still mad about it.

00:42:28.000 Family structure is a good point, but I want to make sure we're clarifying that it's not necessarily about whether you got mom or dad.

00:42:33.000 It's about, are your parents lazy and apathetic?

00:42:37.000 You could have two parents, and they can just be... Like they won't smack you around when you're addicted to antidepressants?

00:42:41.000 No, no, no, no.

00:42:42.000 I mean, like, they send you to school, and then when you're begging for help and attention, they put you on drugs.

00:42:47.000 And then you grow up messed up because you never had any real leadership in your family.

00:42:51.000 I think we're saying the same thing.

00:42:52.000 Or is he a drunk? 0.90

00:42:53.000 But you're like, smack him around. 0.60

00:42:55.000 I'm like, no, no.

00:42:56.000 Come on.

00:42:57.000 I mean, I turned out just fine, right?

00:42:59.000 Come on.

00:43:00.000 I imagine it's easy for a dad to just drink a few beers at night rather than look his kid in the eyes, unfortunately.

00:43:08.000 Yeah, we need a dad who's doing kung fu and his five-year-old son's doing a little kung fu next to him.

00:43:14.000 There's a video I watched.

00:43:16.000 It was amazing.

00:43:16.000 It was this dude and his nephew, I guess, and he's doing some kind of gymnastics training.

00:43:22.000 And the little kid is imitating him.

00:43:24.000 And then dude, who's like probably 30 and super ripped, does a backflip.

00:43:27.000 And the little kid does a backflip.

00:43:28.000 And the guy lands and looks at this kid.

00:43:30.000 He's like, what?

00:43:31.000 Dude, kid just did a backflip!

00:43:32.000 Because kids want to learn from you.

00:43:34.000 So maybe, yeah, family structure is correct.

00:43:36.000 I just wanted to clarify.

00:43:38.000 I think we need to bring that conversation up with American politics.

00:43:41.000 That's not talked about enough.

00:43:43.000 I think having the two parent system in the home, I think all these things... Did you just say two parents?

00:43:49.000 Did you assume the gender of those parents?

00:43:52.000 No, sorry about that.

00:43:53.000 But, you know, I think I was reading some statistics.

00:43:55.000 Yeah, mark that down.

00:43:56.000 Cancel Jorge.

00:43:59.000 But, I mean, I think, like I said, it's an interesting thing to look at because I remember when I was covering the, you know, riots in every different city, but specifically in Portland, that's one thing that kind of caught myself is, you know, when everyone's causing destruction is to say, you know, how many of these people who are out here I think it's their dads.

00:44:14.000 up with with just a regular family and and and have a sense of purpose in life

00:44:18.000 because many of the people that I talk to they almost have like no no sense of

00:44:21.000 purpose and when this George Floyd thing caught you know popped out they finally

00:44:25.000 felt they were part of a movement and they were making a change I don't know

00:44:28.000 that's what I think it's their dads I think it's mostly the dad yeah you know

00:44:32.000 You know, no, I agree. So it's not so a lot of people like to mention whether you know people have dads or don't I

00:44:37.000 Don't think that's it. We brushed on this. I think literally

00:44:39.000 Yeah, if you don't have a dad you the studies show that there's gonna be actually I'm sorry

00:44:45.000 I should clarify actually the studies have been simplified to just two parents a two-parent structure

00:44:49.000 But I think if people don't have a discipline like a disciplinary parent and I don't mean by like corporal

00:44:54.000 punishment I mean literally like sit down son and you know, man

00:44:57.000 or sit down, you know daughter and you know, think about what you did and you need a a a leadership role and a

00:45:03.000 nurturing role in my opinion, I I think there's probably a lot of these kids, I mean, you look at these Antifa kids.

00:45:08.000 It's like they've never picked up a heavy backpack in their lives.

00:45:11.000 They're so scrawny and frail, but they're angry.

00:45:13.000 They're really angry and purposeless.

00:45:16.000 So, I will say, I don't think they actually believe in anything.

00:45:19.000 I really don't.

00:45:20.000 No, some don't.

00:45:21.000 Like I said, some that I talked to in Portland, they finally felt like this was their calling.

00:45:27.000 They were part of a movement.

00:45:28.000 They were going to make a change.

00:45:29.000 But what's their supposed goal?

00:45:31.000 Police brutality?

00:45:33.000 Let me pull up this next story.

00:45:35.000 We got this one from Fox News.

00:45:37.000 Black Lives Matter protesters rally for a victim, leave after learning he was white.

00:45:42.000 The original story reported was that they left when they learned he was a carjacker.

00:45:45.000 I read that and I was like, hold on a minute.

00:45:48.000 The Dante Wright dude, he was wanted for aggravated robbery.

00:45:51.000 The crime committed is not the reason they're supporting or opposing the individual.

00:45:56.000 So word breaks that some dude was killed by the cops.

00:45:59.000 Everybody takes a knee and they're protesting.

00:46:01.000 And then someone's like, wait, wait, hold on.

00:46:03.000 He was a white dude.

00:46:04.000 And then all of a sudden it was like, ah, and they all leave.

00:46:06.000 So I don't think they really care about police brutality.

00:46:09.000 I think they- That's a good point.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, the issue is, is it a popular narrative?

00:46:14.000 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:46:15.000 I mean, I think basically when you say that they don't have an ideology, their ideology is to be oppositional to that which, you know, they've been taught to think is wrong, which is like, it's a very specific set of... It's tribalism.

00:46:29.000 Exactly.

00:46:30.000 And the reason I say that, sorry to interrupt, is that if we were gonna say it's about Black Lives Matter and the reason they're not concerned about the white guy is because the race issue?

00:46:39.000 Then they wouldn't have been making fun of Asian people for years, only to now change and act like they care about Asian people.

00:46:44.000 There's no real ideology, it's just whatever the tribe is focused on now, and it happens to be Black Lives Matter.

00:46:50.000 It's grifting season.

00:46:51.000 Well, I mean, by the way, like, the reason why I got into media is because, like, during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, everybody was for the war in Iraq, including CNN, MSNBC, because it was politically incorrect not to be pro-military, which that manifested itself in better before the war or else.

00:47:10.000 And so, like, if you look back to the news coverage of that, you would have expected those networks, you know, to be, oh, well, George Bush wants to do this and it's terrible.

00:47:18.000 No, no.

00:47:19.000 Not at all.

00:47:20.000 And think about the amount of human suffering that resulted from that.

00:47:26.000 Who's asking the media professionals who said that we should go into Iraq?

00:47:30.000 Do they get away with all of it?

00:47:32.000 So I think mostly what you see, these people, the reason why they would say walk away from a protest when they find out the guy's white is because It's just whatever the popular media narrative is.

00:47:40.000 They're getting their cues.

00:47:41.000 They're being told to do.

00:47:42.000 Bill Maher had this really amazing segment where he almost got it.

00:47:46.000 It was hilarious.

00:47:47.000 Where he was like, sensationalist negative news coverage about COVID is making Democrats insane.

00:47:53.000 So there was a poll done, New York Times published this, asking Democrats, Republicans, and independents, the likelihood of hospitalization for COVID, what they thought it was.

00:48:04.000 more than 50%, I think 75% of Democrats got it wrong. And Republicans got, 26% of Republicans

00:48:11.000 were correct. And most of them got it wrong as well, but substantially less than Democrats

00:48:15.000 and then 20% of independents. And so Bill Maher's like the media that Democrats consume

00:48:19.000 is constantly negative and it's making them crazy. But Donald Trump is bad.

00:48:24.000 That was true.

00:48:24.000 That was all true.

00:48:25.000 It's like, okay, dude's probably lying.

00:48:27.000 So here's what happens.

00:48:28.000 You get people who are sitting there bored with no purpose, and the media's like, what can we say to manipulate people into giving us money and getting us ad clicks?

00:48:35.000 Fear porn.

00:48:35.000 It's that fear porn.

00:48:36.000 Boom. 0.88

00:48:36.000 Yep. 0.88

00:48:37.000 Exactly.

00:48:37.000 Extrapolate that same thing to the right.

00:48:39.000 Racism.

00:48:39.000 Which is like, people's perception is one thing, you know, just sitting in their homes.

00:48:44.000 And then all of a sudden it's like, wait a second, you're telling me that these aren't, it's not a party-like atmosphere.

00:48:49.000 And it's a, and it's a, and then the thing is what they'll do is like CNN or MSNBC is you'll watch the news segment and you get, you get fed that fear porn and as soon as the commercials hit, hey, here's those painkillers for your back.

00:49:00.000 Here's those painkillers for your back and we're going to shove all that.

00:49:03.000 Here's the beer.

00:49:04.000 Is, is falsencia right for you?

00:49:07.000 Ask your doctor.

00:49:08.000 And you're like, you didn't even tell me what the drug does!

00:49:11.000 I didn't even tell you what it does!

00:49:12.000 You're watching CNN, that's an amazing point, you're watching CNN, you're watching Fox or whatever, and they're like, people's homes being burned down, children fired upon.

00:49:21.000 We'll be back after these messages and then the drug commercials.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, like if you're watching Fox...

00:49:25.000 Might as well be a cigarette commercial.

00:49:26.000 Yeah, you know, you're watching...

00:49:27.000 You know, you're shaking, like smoking.

00:49:29.000 Yeah, you'll be watching Fox's Sean Hannity, then after that it goes commercial and it'll

00:49:32.000 be Larry Elder.

00:49:33.000 He'll be like, hey, does your back hurt like mine?

00:49:35.000 Pop these pills.

00:49:36.000 Then the next commercial will be like, hey, did you take those pills?

00:49:38.000 Well, you might be, you might get a compensation.

00:49:41.000 That's the point!

00:49:42.000 They're both hawking the same products on each side, and all that matters is you just say to that corporate, that party line, as long as corporate America is down with it, you're good to go.

00:49:54.000 I will stop though, and I think Brett Baer and Tucker Carlson do a good job.

00:49:57.000 I think Tucker leans in a little bit.

00:49:58.000 But what happens to those guys?

00:50:00.000 What happens to Tucker Carlson?

00:50:01.000 Well, I went on Tucker to say what I saw on Kenosha, right?

00:50:05.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 And all I said was, Rittenhouse told me this.

00:50:08.000 I saw this.

00:50:09.000 And then CNN says, McGuinness supported the conservative claim that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.

00:50:15.000 And I said, I emailed him, um, okay.

00:50:18.000 You either, that's a misstatement.

00:50:21.000 That's, that's.

00:50:21.000 Either have me on to correct the record or prepare for court.

00:50:25.000 Have me on to correct the record.

00:50:26.000 And they did good journalism after that, but that's how it works.

00:50:29.000 They corrected it?

00:50:30.000 I'm not a big fan of Fox News as a whole, but Brett Baier does a really good job.

00:50:33.000 He's a great reporter.

00:50:34.000 their credit but I just had it you know I wouldn't have gotten on if I hadn't

00:50:37.000 have literally threatened that I'm not a big fan of Fox News as a whole but Brett

00:50:41.000 Baird does a really good job yeah he's a great reporter and Tucker Carlson leans

00:50:45.000 into tribalism every so often but he does I think tend to do a pretty good

00:50:48.000 job however I'm not a big fan of Ingram or Hannity Kilmeade is doing a new thing recently.

00:50:54.000 I talked to him, I thought he does an okay job.

00:50:56.000 I think regardless, it's like, let those ideas be exposed to the sunlight and let them die there, rather than, okay, who is it who advertised on this program?

00:51:05.000 Okay, you guys all advertised, do you support this specific statement that they said this one time?

00:51:10.000 Otherwise, you're done.

00:51:12.000 But listen.

00:51:12.000 There's no free speech anymore on cable news.

00:51:14.000 There's Fox News and then there's literally every other network.

00:51:17.000 And so Fox has, in my opinion, not great individuals, but like, I think Greg Gutfeld and The Five do a really good job.

00:51:24.000 And I really, I am a fan of Juan Williams.

00:51:26.000 Or at least on Fox News is the anchors could also have different ideologies.

00:51:31.000 On CNN, NBC is like, hey guys, this is the track.

00:51:36.000 You guys ought to run it.

00:51:37.000 And I think one thing that really opened my, not opened my eyes, but I think it was a good moment for the American people to see was when Tucker Carlson, he was coming to the end of his segment and it was when he was bashing Amazon and Jeff Bezos.

00:51:49.000 And then he's handing it off to Sean Hannity.

00:51:51.000 You can hear Sean Hannity, obviously he's hearing Tucker.

00:51:53.000 Then he goes, Oh, well, we support free market and capitalism.

00:51:56.000 You just see Tucker do that face.

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 And I thought that was actually a great moment for Fox because it shows, hey, we can at least differ on these things, be on the same network.

00:52:05.000 But it was by mistake.

00:52:06.000 This is why I said I'm a fan of Juan Williams, because he like they rag on him.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, I think he's wrong all the time.

00:52:14.000 Like I'm sitting there watching Jesse laugh at him and I'm like, Juan is wrong.

00:52:18.000 But I'm glad that he's willing to be there with them.

00:52:21.000 Taking that punishment and saying what he believes with passion.

00:52:24.000 Some people think he fakes it.

00:52:26.000 I'm like, no, the dude genuinely believes it.

00:52:27.000 That's the point though.

00:52:29.000 If you appear on either of these two echo chambers, then you are this.

00:52:33.000 So I was trying to tell the American public one thing.

00:52:37.000 What I saw.

00:52:38.000 And it was an incredible challenge for me to navigate the landscape after the shooting, because I had to basically, I appeared on Fox first.

00:52:45.000 Okay.

00:52:46.000 You're this.

00:52:47.000 And it's like, no, no, no, no.

00:52:49.000 That's a misstatement here.

00:52:51.000 The facts prepare for court or had me on.

00:52:54.000 I mean, I say, I say like, you got a threat, you got to threaten.

00:52:59.000 I say a bunch of wacky stuff on this show, but will the grifters on Twitter ever take the clips of me saying, tax the rich, or police should resign?

00:53:06.000 They won't do that.

00:53:07.000 They'll take the clips that are like, Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense, and then they'll tell everyone on the left, Tim Pool is far right or whatever, and then the people who actually watch the show are like, Tim's a liberal.

00:53:15.000 All right, Tim, I have to say, when you- I'd agree.

00:53:17.000 I'd say Tim's a- I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not now, because I know you've been doing this, like, I don't know what would you call it, but I know when you're kind of sarcastic, but then- It's called gaslighting, I think, or something like that.

00:53:27.000 No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.

00:53:28.000 I have consistently and always said I'm in favor of a higher progressive tax on the wealthy.

00:53:33.000 Yeah, no, that is true.

00:53:33.000 Always, always.

00:53:35.000 And the reason I tweeted it is because I was like, I finally started to notice, and I never really cared that much, and I was like, oh, you know what's happening?

00:53:42.000 These these these the manipulation machine, the media machine needs an enemy.

00:53:46.000 They need to make money off this.

00:53:48.000 So they they purposefully watch the show and ignore all of like the normal, like kind of liberal positions I might hold and then look for that one thing that's kind of conservative.

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:58.000 And they take that and they put it on.

00:53:59.000 Well, that's I was on a reality TV show, actually.

00:54:02.000 It was not very watched, but it was 2016 called them.

00:54:05.000 It was called House Divided.

00:54:07.000 It was on full screen media.

00:54:08.000 I think they scrubbed it after Hillary lost.

00:54:10.000 It was a big.

00:54:11.000 We don't need to go there.

00:54:12.000 But basically you sign a contract where you can basically sign everything away.

00:54:16.000 Like it's like we can repurpose your content for whatever to portray you as whatever we want.

00:54:20.000 So I went in there and I'm like, you know, I'm across the board.

00:54:25.000 You can't really put my politics in a box very easily.

00:54:28.000 And so I said, you know, I'd be a libertarian who supports a lot of kind of, you know, big government efforts to even the playing field.

00:54:36.000 But that doesn't fit in a box.

00:54:37.000 Right.

00:54:37.000 So I said, oh, they'd say, what do you think about this?

00:54:40.000 Well, the conservative conservative movement, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:44.000 Oh, what are your politics?

00:54:45.000 I'm a.

00:54:46.000 Like, on camera, in my interview, then cut to b-roll, and then cut to me saying conservative in a different instance.

00:54:51.000 Wait, wait, wait, they did that?

00:54:53.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:54:53.000 What do you think of this girl?

00:54:54.000 Oh, she's really, she's pretty, she's super nice.

00:54:56.000 Uh, what do you think about the weather outside?

00:54:58.000 It was super hot outside.

00:54:59.000 Oh, she's cut to b-roll.

00:55:01.000 Hot.

00:55:02.000 So, like, I'm telling you, like, no, seriously, and my contract, there's no recourse, because the contract you sign, you sign it away.

00:55:07.000 So, by the way, please, everybody out there, don't go look this show up, because it's really bad.

00:55:12.000 What was the show called again?

00:55:13.000 It's called Shmouse Divided. 0.98

00:55:16.000 But it's like, it just goes to show how you can just take, you say enough words, you're on camera for eight hours a day, they can choose whatever they want, and then use the power of editing to just portray whatever they want.

00:55:28.000 I love it when there was one clip that went viral of me where there was literal jump cuts.

00:55:32.000 Because I was issuing caveats, I was like, here's what I think.

00:55:36.000 Now keep in mind, A, B, and C, 1, 2, 3.

00:55:38.000 But with that said, so they cut out all the caveats, so it's like me going like, I think that Donald Trump is the greatest president ever!

00:55:46.000 Joe Biden is the worst!

00:55:48.000 What's that app that like people were putting like famous people they're like they'll be singing the song like it'll be a deepfake? 0.99

00:55:53.000 That scared the crap out of me.

00:55:55.000 That's that's I think we're heading into.

00:55:56.000 Oh yeah yeah take a picture of you to make it dance.

00:55:58.000 Yeah that I was like oh whatever man.

00:56:01.000 Welcome to the future.

00:56:01.000 That's coming fast.

00:56:03.000 That might even be happening right now, we don't realize it.

00:56:05.000 Like, if the Deep State or, like, you know, the CIA or, like, what else is there?

00:56:10.000 Boston Dynamic?

00:56:11.000 These weird, like, secret programs work.

00:56:13.000 Because if we know that it's pretty advanced, if the public sees that, I can only imagine the stuff that's being worked on behind the scenes.

00:56:19.000 There were pyramids, pyramid-shaped objects flying over U.S.

00:56:24.000 naval destroyers.

00:56:24.000 But I heard they couldn't find a base for these pyramids, so they're actually triangles.

00:56:29.000 A base?

00:56:30.000 They couldn't look like a pyramid has a base to it.

00:56:32.000 So that means it's three dimensional, but I don't think they could see the dimensions.

00:56:35.000 Right.

00:56:35.000 So it's just triangles, right?

00:56:36.000 Right.

00:56:37.000 They have gravitational warp speed.

00:56:38.000 Anything that you you see publicly, they got something way better.

00:56:42.000 Yeah.

00:56:42.000 There's no, we know confidential confidentiality exists.

00:56:46.000 We know top secret exists.

00:56:47.000 We know there is, you know, classification.

00:56:50.000 So that means when you see, like, here's our latest robot, well, there are secret things you don't know about.

00:56:54.000 Wait, so which side of the culture war are the aliens on then?

00:56:59.000 Because we've just got to circle back here.

00:57:00.000 I would, I would, honestly, I would, I would, uh, there's, there's two schools of thought on this.

00:57:06.000 Um, the aliens would be on the side of the woke because you look at like, you've seen Rick and Morty, right?

00:57:12.000 Yes.

00:57:12.000 When the Galactic Federation takes over Earth, everyone's forced to eat pills and do menial labor for the sake of just having a job.

00:57:18.000 Okay.

00:57:18.000 And so there's one, I shouldn't say there's two schools, but one idea is that they're on the side of the woke because they need everyone to be drone-like and ideologically homogenous.

00:57:27.000 So there's a one world system.

00:57:29.000 The Galactic Federation Can't work with the United States so long as there's fractured nation-states Which would mean the nationalists are certainly at odds with any alien and you know Endeavor to communicate with us because who they negotiate with each age different country get out of here Could you imagine if you were like we're gonna go talk to Russia on that ten presidents You'd be like no, it's a waste of our time get one president get out of it

00:57:48.000 What if they're interdimensional beings, though?

00:57:52.000 But the other idea is that they're anti-woke because they're looking to work with those that are intellectually discerning and can understand nuance and complex thought, and there's no point in engaging with a drone-like species.

00:58:04.000 That's what I think.

00:58:05.000 I mean, I hope, I guess.

00:58:07.000 A Star Trek future of Enlightenment values as opposed to Borg-like values.

00:58:12.000 You guys ever practice psychic energy?

00:58:16.000 Just like... I would say cosmic.

00:58:19.000 Cosmic energy.

00:58:20.000 Cosmic energy.

00:58:21.000 Tell me about it.

00:58:21.000 It's a different thing.

00:58:22.000 I mean, people pick up on vibrations.

00:58:23.000 That's why I have the mustache.

00:58:24.000 It's like... You can pick up on... Yeah.

00:58:27.000 It's attached to nerves underneath.

00:58:28.000 Electromagnetic vibration.

00:58:29.000 Exactly.

00:58:29.000 Why do cats have whiskers?

00:58:30.000 For balance.

00:58:31.000 They can sense energy.

00:58:32.000 Exactly.

00:58:33.000 For balance.

00:58:33.000 Exactly.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 Like, apparently if you cut a cat's whiskers off, they're like...

00:58:38.000 Did you ever see those wolves that like, they, they line up to magnetic north and they're fox, I think foxes.

00:58:44.000 And then they, they hunt, but they're like line up to magnetic north.

00:58:47.000 And then they'll, they'll like sense the, the rabbit and then they'll dive and catch it in the snow.

00:58:51.000 That's interesting.

00:58:52.000 Yeah, dude.

00:58:53.000 I just know for humans.

00:58:55.000 Uh, cause I read it in, in thinking grow rich.

00:58:57.000 And I think I felt it a couple of times.

00:58:59.000 It's flow state.

00:59:00.000 That's like a, that's like a normal thing for humans.

00:59:02.000 It's, it's, it's, you know, like we're shredding the gnar.

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:05.000 Shredding the gnar.

00:59:06.000 I think it's you cool your frontal lobe.

00:59:08.000 It's almost, I don't know, it's just like you're in an intense focus.

00:59:11.000 Yeah.

00:59:12.000 And I mean, I felt it when I was, I feel like I felt it even in some of like the chaotic scenes, but yeah, you're just in a flow state.

00:59:18.000 Things just click.

00:59:19.000 It's just a, it's just one of those.

00:59:21.000 You dampen your ego.

00:59:21.000 What did we used to call it?

00:59:23.000 When I used to cover riots, time slows down.

00:59:25.000 It's the greatest thing ever.

00:59:27.000 Yeah.

00:59:27.000 So people describe it as time slowing down, but I think I found a better way to describe it, at least for me.

00:59:32.000 It's not that time slowed down.

00:59:34.000 It kind of feels that way, like everything, like you can just see everything and you're moving really quick and you're dodging.

00:59:39.000 But to me, I think the easier way to explain it is that when you're normally looking at something, you're focused on a single point and you have peripheral vision, which is kind of out of focus and you can kind of sort of understand.

00:59:48.000 But for me, when I'd be in a riot and some high intensity thing would happen, all of my vision would become the same focus.

00:59:55.000 Like peripheral vision, my whole field of vision would become crystal clear and I could see everything perfectly as if it was not peripheral.

01:00:01.000 And that, I think, simulated some kind of time slowing down because your brain is processing everything really, really fast and at once.

01:00:09.000 So it's like you're seeing everything and then you can make a move.

01:00:12.000 It kind of feels like time slows down.

01:00:14.000 That's probably your flow state then, Tim.

01:00:15.000 Right.

01:00:16.000 It's like getting barreled, brah.

01:00:17.000 It's like getting barreled.

01:00:18.000 Barreled? 0.99

01:00:18.000 It's like getting shacked in a wave, dude. 0.99

01:00:22.000 Yeah, like all the water starts coming over you.

01:00:24.000 You feel that, like, you're out there, and then all of a sudden you see someone raise a weapon, pull a trigger, and then all of a sudden you're just like... Well, I told the... I mean, when I spoke to police after the shooting, basically all of my estimations on time were way over.

01:00:38.000 Because I was like, oh, I think I interviewed him, yeah, it was like 40 minutes, maybe it was an hour.

01:00:43.000 It was 15 minutes, you know, but there's so many things leading up when you're Yeah, I would think if time is a perception of motion, then if you're experiencing more motion, that it would seem like less time was happening.

01:00:56.000 I wonder if it's actually the perception of time is based upon the amount of information you're processing.

01:01:02.000 So if you're experiencing something that you've experienced a million times before, your brain disregards it, and then time starts speeding up the older you get because your brain is ignoring making the coffee in the morning.

01:01:12.000 It doesn't register anymore.

01:01:13.000 When you're younger, making that coffee for the first or tenth time, it's like relatively new.

01:01:17.000 So when you're in a conflict zone, your brain is basically like, in this circumstance, we must process any and all information that comes to us for the sake of our safety.

01:01:27.000 Time feels like it's going slower because your brain is running all of these calculations and not ignoring anything.

01:01:34.000 So it's like, actually, I guess a better way to put it is, that's the true experience of time, when all of the information is coming into your brain.

01:01:41.000 And then the way we normally experience time is there's gaps because we forget things that don't matter.

01:01:46.000 That's why, like, when I eat a Big Mac, it seems so quick.

01:01:48.000 Exactly.

01:01:49.000 Because your brain doesn't care.

01:01:50.000 And then you forgot you did it.

01:01:51.000 That's why people can't remember what they had for breakfast.

01:01:53.000 It just happened so quick.

01:01:54.000 It's gone.

01:01:54.000 But the first time you eat a Big Mac, every bite takes forever.

01:01:59.000 I still remember it, actually.

01:02:01.000 No, but, like, you ask people, what did you have for breakfast yesterday?

01:02:03.000 And they'll be like, what did I have for breakfast?

01:02:04.000 I can't remember.

01:02:04.000 Because it's irrelevant.

01:02:06.000 Yeah, it's okay.

01:02:06.000 It's already routine.

01:02:07.000 I bet I could ask you about what happened in Kenosha and you could probably give me crazy details and explain all this crazy story and you'd never forget it.

01:02:14.000 I mean, that's a very good point.

01:02:15.000 It's like, I guess, you know, the amount of details that stick out in your mind.

01:02:19.000 And that was the interesting part, too, after the fact, is like talking with the New York Times reporters and stitching together all these different streams.

01:02:25.000 And he's like, hey, when you were running after Kyle, you stopped.

01:02:29.000 Like, why did you stop?

01:02:30.000 Something fell on the ground.

01:02:31.000 And I was like, oh, my God.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, I stopped because my gas mask fell out of my bag because I opened my gas mask bag right before I saw Kyle to break out a white claw to diffuse the situation with these guys who want to smash my head in.

01:02:45.000 And so I didn't ever clip my gas mask back in because I saw Kyle running and then I just ran after him.

01:02:50.000 And you know, like that kind of stuff you don't forget.

01:02:53.000 Exactly.

01:02:54.000 But you forget what you had for breakfast.

01:02:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:56.000 I mean, figuratively, like, I don't know if you remember what you had for breakfast, but people forget like the little nonsensical things that don't matter.

01:03:01.000 But what you're in that when you're in the frame and everything is.

01:03:06.000 So you think that's sorry.

01:03:07.000 Sorry.

01:03:08.000 That's why everyone said 2020 went.

01:03:10.000 Actually, this is weird.

01:03:11.000 I guess this is why everyone said 2020 went by so fast, because we were all sitting in our apartments doing the same thing over and over and over again.

01:03:18.000 So everybody was like, wow, I can't believe how, you know, how I feel like 2020 was like six, seven years, something like that.

01:03:25.000 Really?

01:03:26.000 Yeah.

01:03:26.000 I see a lot of people tweeting like, I can't believe it's already December.

01:03:30.000 I can't believe it's already like, whoa, where did this, where did this year go?

01:03:33.000 I guess depending on who you were, because for a lot of people, they'd never experienced pandemic before.

01:03:37.000 So everything was new for a lot of other people locked in their apartments.

01:03:40.000 Everything was redundant.

01:03:42.000 Like solitary confinement would seem like a million years, right?

01:03:45.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:03:47.000 I don't know.

01:03:47.000 Maybe it just depends on different people, because I've heard both, I guess.

01:03:51.000 You lose track of time.

01:03:51.000 You don't realize some people overestimate, some people underestimate.

01:03:55.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:03:57.000 Yeah, I kind of agree with you, Richard.

01:03:58.000 I feel like 2020 lasted longer than a year, I guess just because all the commotion that we were in.

01:04:04.000 And yeah, I think another interesting thing, too, is when you're on the ground, obviously you have, you know, the flow state, but you start to actually pick up on a lot of tendencies.

01:04:12.000 I think they've used the word tendencies in sports more, but you start to pick up tendencies on protesters, agitators, law enforcement, just little knickknacks that you already know, kind of, you know, you can kind of predict some things before they pop up.

01:04:24.000 Let's do this.

01:04:25.000 I do want to talk about some cultural stuff in a bit, but I want to do one more because I want to ask you guys your thoughts on what's going to happen.

01:04:31.000 But first, I want to pull up this story because we only briefly mentioned it.

01:04:34.000 Governor Walz declares an emergency.

01:04:36.000 He's bringing in police from Ohio and Nebraska.

01:04:39.000 You mentioned that the Senate passed a $9 million emergency fund.

01:04:41.000 They're bringing in all these other police.

01:04:43.000 So the verdict is supposed to come soon.

01:04:46.000 The state is declaring an emergency.

01:04:48.000 They have the National Guard already on scene.

01:04:50.000 We don't know what the verdict's gonna be.

01:04:52.000 It's possible it's gonna be a hung jury because that means they can't come to a decision.

01:04:56.000 That seems possible.

01:04:58.000 On the merits, I've seen some legal analysts say it's not guilty across the board.

01:05:03.000 However, due to the politics, some people are saying either a hung jury or guilty across the board.

01:05:08.000 I've been seeing the exact same thing.

01:05:10.000 When I reach out to the professional lawyer, I think you're, you know, like Will Chamberlain,

01:05:14.000 there's other great lawyers that are doing great analysis of everyone now.

01:05:18.000 They don't see any way this could be guilty.

01:05:20.000 But one thing some of them have mentioned is, hey, this thing is so politicized that the jury just might just do it

01:05:26.000 anyway.

01:05:27.000 Tim, did you get to see the prosecution's last sentence was like, oh, you guys say that George Floyd died because his heart was too big.

01:05:37.000 You know, he died because Derek Chauvin's heart was too small, which was odd for me because on most final lines, they end on like, A fact or something like this.

01:05:47.000 They go off that, but it kind of, he, he more did it for like media.

01:05:50.000 I don't know.

01:05:50.000 That's what I took.

01:05:51.000 I don't know what you guys, the most watched trial in history, I guess.

01:05:54.000 Well, so, so first I'll ask you guys, I don't know if you've been following, I've been following the court case, but you guys have been on the ground.

01:06:00.000 So I don't know if you've been following a lot of the trial stuff, but I'm curious what you guys think based on what you've already seen, based on your experience, what's coming next, what's going to happen in Minnesota.

01:06:09.000 Richie.

01:06:10.000 I mean, I don't think it really matters, honestly.

01:06:12.000 Like the verdict?

01:06:13.000 Yeah, and we actually, when we were on the ground the last night in Brooklyn Center, I commented to Jorge after the fact.

01:06:21.000 It ended up being a completely peaceful evening, but at the beginning, Jorge was inquiring to me, like, yeah, you want to go live, man?

01:06:27.000 And I was so bugged out by all the people, all the anti-media sentiment, all the anti-corporation, just the anger in the crowd.

01:06:35.000 was so palpable that Jorge is like hitting me up and like I knew that there was one of the organizers in our area and I 0.95

01:06:40.000 was just like Jorge was like wow Rich is kind of being a jerk but I just 0.83

01:06:43.000 like was I was bugged out that honestly even me acknowledging him was going to tip people 0.88

01:06:48.000 everyone was just so mad that I don't know I think it's a powder keg that has nothing to do with the actual realities of the case or anything like that.

01:06:55.000 It's just going to pop off.

01:06:57.000 No matter what happens.

01:06:58.000 Yeah.

01:06:58.000 And it's just like lockdowns, it's economics, it's politics, everything.

01:07:02.000 I just want to add a little bit real quick.

01:07:04.000 I agree with Rich because when you talk to folks on the ground, for them it's like, If they don't hear the word murder is just like doesn't matter and I think just I just think that no matter what happens We're gonna see an eruption I'm going more off the the like my if it's like a prediction thing I actually don't think the rights are gonna hit the magnitude that it did last time I think last summer

01:07:27.000 Too many factors rolled in.

01:07:28.000 COVID, the unemployment.

01:07:29.000 I mean, I think some people were making like 600 bucks per week on unemployment.

01:07:32.000 I think all that kind of factored into that.

01:07:35.000 I don't know we could reach that, but I agree with Rich.

01:07:38.000 I just think if, for me, if they don't hear the word like murder in there, it's not, it's not going to be good.

01:07:43.000 But Maxi Waters said first degree.

01:07:46.000 Well, there's second degree and third degree murder.

01:07:47.000 Yeah.

01:07:48.000 I mean, he's on trial for murder, just not premeditated murder.

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 So she wants first degree. 0.76

01:07:53.000 I think it's a good point to say that they're going to say, he was never tried for the true crime of first degree murder, so no matter what happens.

01:08:01.000 Tim, how well of a job do you think Eric Nelson did with Derek Chauvin?

01:08:06.000 Do you think he at least put a good case in front of the jury where there's no reasonable doubt?

01:08:11.000 I'll say this.

01:08:12.000 From my personal opinion, as someone who knows nothing, you know, knows little about the law routes of any of these lawyers, I felt like the state failed to prove its case.

01:08:21.000 They couldn't convince me that... Like, dude, I made several videos angry at Chauvin when all this went down, and I was like, this is crazy, and I was like, he shouldn't have done this.

01:08:30.000 And then I watched this trial, and I'm like, they did nothing to prove that Chauvin caused the death of George Floyd.

01:08:36.000 They only gave me, maybe it happened this way.

01:08:38.000 In fact, the prosecution said at one point, maybe it was his enlarged heart, maybe not.

01:08:42.000 But Chauvin... And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:08:45.000 Maybe?

01:08:46.000 But by the way, yeah, it has to be... It doesn't... Okay, so... In order to prove murder, it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt that he intended to kill him in that moment, in that space.

01:08:57.000 No, it doesn't.

01:08:58.000 So I got this wrong.

01:08:59.000 It's because they're doing the felony murder rule.

01:09:02.000 They're saying he had to have the intention to use force against Floyd for felony assault that Floyd died from.

01:09:09.000 So it's the felony murder rule.

01:09:12.000 Okay, so if you're attempting felony assault, then they die as a result of it, then it's felony murder.

01:09:17.000 Yes.

01:09:18.000 And for Murder 3, the equivalent, according to legal insurrections analysis, would be like Murder 3 is if you're shooting a gun randomly into a crowd and you kill somebody.

01:09:26.000 Like, you're doing something that can result in death, but you weren't targeting somebody.

01:09:30.000 So, I gotta be honest.

01:09:33.000 Or even the charges, Tim.

01:09:37.000 You were saying that they probably won't even get to 40 years, which is probably going to anger this crowd.

01:09:44.000 I watched the defense, and I was shocked when I heard the prosecution's own witness admit Derek Chauvin could have used more force, even a taser if he wanted to.

01:09:54.000 That was the state's witness on cross saying this, and as soon as I heard that, I was like, okay, I'm done.

01:09:59.000 Now, you mean to tell me that you're claiming he committed assault against George Floyd, and he could have legally used more force than he did?

01:10:06.000 Then how is what he did a felony assault?

01:10:08.000 He used less force than he was allowed to as a cop.

01:10:10.000 I'm not happy it happened, man.

01:10:12.000 But, if your own witness is saying that... So, I'll say this.

01:10:18.000 The state did a bad job.

01:10:19.000 The defense did a pretty good job.

01:10:21.000 Near the end, the state started doing a bit of a better job hitting the points they needed to hit, and the defense slipped on their own expert witness.

01:10:29.000 But ultimately, after looking at everything, it was just the state's own witnesses firing shots back at them and hurting their case.

01:10:36.000 And it looks like the defense's strategy the whole time was to have a short uh short case so that the state went for several days then uh the defense was substantially less i think they only had like two or three witnesses but then they did like three hours of closing arguments laying out all of the cases i got to tell you man the defense is closing arguments wow it's i i'm for me it's beyond a reasonable doubt but well i'm saying is i have if it's reasonable doubt that he committed a crime is all it takes for me i i think they've actually proven uh chauvin's innocence

01:11:07.000 But is this one case, this particular example, is it just too politicized that the jury's gonna say, you know what?

01:11:13.000 We gotta convict this guy because it's either our life, or the city's, or across the U.S.

01:11:18.000 I don't know, this one is... The city, a city councilwoman. 0.99

01:11:22.000 voted to fire the city manager and she said it's because i was scared they

01:11:27.000 would retaliate against me i think the jury sitting there and their and they're going

01:11:31.000 like i don't care about this guy he's guilty no matter what anyone says

01:11:35.000 because i don't want to get shot that's what that's where i think there are a i

01:11:40.000 mean I mean, at a certain point, like you said, I mean, you're that's your civic duty, right?

01:11:45.000 And you're you've you've whether you like it or not, you've stepped into that role.

01:11:49.000 Like, am I going to cater my what I saw on the night of Kenosha just because I feel like people want me to say one thing or another?

01:11:58.000 Like, no, obviously not.

01:12:00.000 And like you at a certain point, you know, If you're serving, you gotta determine what role you're serving in that particular situation.

01:12:09.000 And if you're a witness or if you're a jury member, you have to just do your best and then, I mean, I don't know.

01:12:15.000 If someone wants to, you know... If it were me on the jury, and after everything I've seen, I'd be saying not guilty.

01:12:23.000 I could probably be convinced of maybe manslaughter.

01:12:26.000 Like if we argued over the evidence and I heard a compelling case, but I'd probably still be leaning towards not guilty.

01:12:33.000 And I'm not gonna change my views based on what Antifa, the left, or the media would say of me.

01:12:38.000 I tweeted that, you know, the Kyle Rittenhouse situation convinced me to finally, like, was one of the things that finally convinced me I gotta vote for Trump.

01:12:45.000 Because the way the media was lying and portraying everything and demonizing this kid, who, far from perfect, but still, you know, self-defense.

01:12:53.000 I have no comment on that, obviously.

01:12:55.000 Yeah.

01:12:55.000 Exactly.

01:12:56.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 Yeah, but for me, that's what I felt like and then Trump pinned the tweet and it became a talking point

01:13:01.000 The White House press corps was asking the you know, Kayleigh McEnany like Trump pin this tweet 0.94

01:13:06.000 I'm gonna say what I think even if they're gonna smear me over it. I'm yeah if Antifa threatens me

01:13:11.000 I'll tell you this I gotta be honest I'm the kind of person to where if one of these Antifa guys

01:13:16.000 or anybody threatens me I double down Yeah, I'd like bring it I've gotten I mean I've got that

01:13:20.000 way I've gotten them from both sides because also I'm a victim

01:13:23.000 in the criminal complaint So like the people who support, you know, who are anti Kyle Rittenhouse have come after me because like, oh, you know, whatever, this guy's a terrorist, blah, blah, blah. 0.68

01:13:36.000 And then the other side is saying, you're a wuss, you know, you're not, you're not a victim. 0.51

01:13:41.000 And like, I just, I just have to say what I experienced, you know, in the moment.

01:13:47.000 And the prosecution might take what I say and, you know, make it to suit their role in this situation.

01:13:52.000 It's an adversarial relationship.

01:13:54.000 It's really fascinating watching a trial like this and you really start to understand framing, perception, perspective.

01:14:02.000 It's really, really interesting how the truth can be massaged by both sides to fit their needs and like how you can omit certain information to change... Especially when you're the guy stuck in... I remember when I woke... I didn't actually view my role like very... I didn't, you know, think, oh, this is really my duty to do it until the next morning I saw a Vice article just saying, open fire.

01:14:26.000 And that terminology, like, it's just... It's no concern for what happened on the ground.

01:14:32.000 It was like, okay, now, okay.

01:14:34.000 I can't wait until the trial.

01:14:35.000 I obviously have to say something before.

01:14:36.000 But there's politics at play, man.

01:14:39.000 I'd imagine you're gonna get a lot more heat from the left.

01:14:42.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:14:43.000 I've honestly gotten a lot of crap from the pro Kyle. 0.83

01:14:49.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:14:50.000 Honestly, I don't think it matters who I'm getting crap from because I'm still going to stay the same no matter what.

01:14:56.000 It's pretty simple. 0.95

01:14:57.000 It's just what I saw and heard.

01:14:59.000 But at the same time, it has been definitely an educational experience that maybe I can talk about after the trial.

01:15:05.000 Because until then, I'm just going to try my best.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, I think there was also two on the Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:15:09.000 There's just that story.

01:15:10.000 I believe there was that man who, like, worked in the medical field and he, like, donated, like, ten bucks into Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:15:16.000 And, like, a local journalist was like, we're doing an investigation.

01:15:20.000 We're at his front door and asking him about his donation.

01:15:22.000 It's like, dude, it's ten bucks.

01:15:23.000 I mean, okay.

01:15:25.000 You know, I think it was despicable.

01:15:27.000 If it were me, though.

01:15:28.000 I don't know if a guy answered him or whatever.

01:15:30.000 If, like, a reporter knocked on my door.

01:15:32.000 First, I'd be like, did you see the no trespassing sign?

01:15:34.000 Like, you can go.

01:15:35.000 But if it was a reporter like we want to get a comment I I have left us hit me up for like ridiculous stories I answer him the best of my ability.

01:15:42.000 Mm-hmm.

01:15:42.000 Yeah, exactly I think there's a lot to be said for that instead of shutting it down Well, I see a lot of conservatives will be like no to our request for comment I had someone hit me up from a leftist smear machine and I wrote him a book like I wrote like 3,000 words yeah went in-depth and like bold things and I'm like I I got all the time of day to talk about what I think, so here you go, man.

01:16:01.000 Have at it.

01:16:02.000 And I'm very respectful and nice.

01:16:03.000 I appreciate that you reached out and gave me the opportunity to say my piece, and wish the best for you, and have a good day, good sir.

01:16:09.000 But then when people see that from that outlet, then that basically transcends that gap that we're talking about, that schism between the two trenches.

01:16:17.000 What they do is, when you supply them with enough words, they can selectively pull quotes.

01:16:22.000 But that's why you gotta fight that battle.

01:16:25.000 I have basically been fighting that battle to get my word out to both sides.

01:16:29.000 And I think actually the one piece that I'm most proud of came out on the Huffington Post.

01:16:34.000 And Mary, to her credit, basically wrote this entire article about Rosenbaum's last moments.

01:16:40.000 And just because of where people perceive me as coming from politically, They didn't care about my account of that, but those are the same people that are supposed to be saying, this guy died and we should remember him.

01:16:54.000 And so that account of his last moments, I think is important to just bring people back to the humanity of, it doesn't matter what this guy's ideology is.

01:17:03.000 It doesn't matter the fact that he literally came from a mental hospital, apparently, right before he got shot.

01:17:08.000 And then I had people all over the place. 0.99

01:17:10.000 Why did you try to save that sexual pedo? 1.00

01:17:13.000 It's like, dude, if somebody's dying in front of you, that's the point. 0.99

01:17:17.000 It doesn't matter what their ideology is.

01:17:19.000 This is interesting, though, because the defense in the Chauvin trial pointed out, this is not about the perspective of a doctor who's watched hundreds of hours of footage for a year.

01:17:27.000 It's not about the perspective of, you know, individuals who showed up after everything already happened and then told you their experience.

01:17:34.000 It's the perspective of the officer who was there and what he felt, what he perceived, and what he knew.

01:17:38.000 And Derek Chauvin is not a, you know, cardiopulmonologist who understands what a seizure is.

01:17:44.000 His perspective is George Floyd kicking is a resisting arrest.

01:17:48.000 Now a doctor may watch that later and say that was a seizure, but how would a street cop know that?

01:17:53.000 For you, when you see a guy shot and he's on the ground, how are you supposed to know what his history is or where he came from?

01:17:59.000 All you know is there's a guy in front of me bleeding.

01:18:01.000 I have no idea who the guy is.

01:18:02.000 He could be a saint for all I know.

01:18:03.000 He could be a local youth pastor or he could be a, you know, a diddler. 1.00

01:18:08.000 Exactly.

01:18:08.000 And by the way, Kyle ran back up behind me after the shooting and I screamed at him to call 911, not even concerned with who it was or whatever.

01:18:17.000 And then, you know, after the fact, realizing it's the guy who had, he had a gun right behind me, but my concern was, like, for one thing, it's humanity.

01:18:25.000 Yeah.

01:18:26.000 And, you know, I wasn't like, excuse me, what are your politics?

01:18:29.000 It's like, hindsight is 20-20, it's like AOC, when she lied about what happened at the Capitol, the fascinating thing about it, she told that story where she, like, hid in her bathroom and she was like, oh no, they got in the building.

01:18:40.000 That story was clearly fabricated because it included details you would only know in hindsight.

01:18:45.000 At the time that AOC went to, you know, at the time she cited was like, you know, just around 1 p.m.

01:18:51.000 No one had gotten any buildings.

01:18:53.000 There was no one even trying to get any buildings.

01:18:55.000 Only because a day later we saw what happened.

01:18:58.000 She now says, at that time I was scared they got in the building, because she's calling upon the anger and the fear people had from the building being breached.

01:19:06.000 But that morning, nobody knew that was gonna happen.

01:19:08.000 That's how you know she made it up.

01:19:09.000 People often forget about situational context.

01:19:12.000 So they look at, like, the Rittenhouse thing and they're like, why didn't you, why did you help that guy who's a bad person?

01:19:16.000 You're like, you found that out like a month later, dude.

01:19:19.000 I'm there on the ground.

01:19:21.000 I don't know if this guy's gonna get a seizure.

01:19:23.000 I don't know if he's a criminal.

01:19:24.000 I just know that there's a guy in front of me who's resisting or I know there's a guy in front of me who's hurt.

01:19:27.000 And it's always easy for people on the outside to say, Oh, you should have done this, should have done that until they're in that moment.

01:19:33.000 And I think, I don't know if you want to maybe add on this Rich, I think what maybe happened to you was just fight or flight, right?

01:19:38.000 I think, you know, yeah, there's no, there was no time to make any decisions in like, I don't know.

01:19:44.000 I mean, I looked back and was like, could I have done anything else to?

01:19:47.000 Yeah for me like knowing you know Richie personally and you know working under him you know to me when I heard that I was like man like it feels good to be associated with someone that is willing to do that for someone.

01:19:58.000 I was like I felt you know you feel a moment probably hey I'm glad that like to call him like my editor or whatever because to me that was like you know when people ask me like what would you do I'm like I'm out!

01:20:07.000 I mean I'm out so I don't think I could have done the same thing so I think it was it was a brave thing to do and Didn't matter at the end of the day.

01:20:16.000 Ultimately, was there anything that could have been done to save his life?

01:20:23.000 The toothpaste can't go back into the tube, but you just think to yourself, why did that situation exist in the first place?

01:20:29.000 And the only thing that I can do from here is to take that human experience and actually, you know, try to express to people that, you know, like it's not just a video game.

01:20:40.000 And like I've seen so many times when we have these crazy situations unfolding in front of us and people are just on their phones.

01:20:46.000 And they're just keen on like what the next tweet is.

01:20:49.000 And like, at a certain point, the game becomes reality.

01:20:52.000 And it's like, people suffer and die as a result of what we're seeing on the ground right now.

01:20:58.000 And it's not just people who die there.

01:20:59.000 It's people who die as a result of the narrative, you know, that it's like, how many people are economically suffering?

01:21:05.000 Because, you know, this news outlet wants to push this narrative or whatever.

01:21:09.000 Remember that video, I think it was from Portland, where someone got hit with a rubber bullet in their leg, and they had a mild bruise with some bleeding?

01:21:18.000 And then they're like, we gotta put on a tourniquet, man!

01:21:21.000 Tourniquet medic!

01:21:22.000 And the guy who got hit in the leg is crying, and he's like, I don't wanna lose my leg!

01:21:26.000 And it's like...

01:21:28.000 These kids think they're playing tiddlywinks when they're playing, you know, they're playing for keeps.

01:21:33.000 They go out there and they think, like, you need a tourniquet, man!

01:21:35.000 It's like, dude, his leg was fine.

01:21:38.000 He was like bleeding a little bit.

01:21:39.000 You put some gauze on it, you know, just put bandage over it, you're fine.

01:21:43.000 But these people are going out there thinking that they're literally the resistance fighting a war.

01:21:48.000 And they're playing a game.

01:21:50.000 And then people get hurt.

01:21:52.000 And then they... It's insane to me.

01:21:55.000 I guess it's people without purpose.

01:21:57.000 They wish they were their grandparents or great-grandparents storming the beaches of Normandy.

01:22:03.000 When in fact, they're just a bunch of kids with umbrellas and they weigh 100 pounds soaking wet.

01:22:07.000 And they think they're literally the anti-fascist coalition fighting the Nazis.

01:22:11.000 Yeah, and I think I was on the ground, you know, covering these events, and I think I forgot who I told it to.

01:22:16.000 I'm like, you know, because you'll be somebody at these events, and then, you know, when they do the speeches part, everyone wants to give their speech.

01:22:23.000 Everyone thinks that their speech is going to make a difference.

01:22:24.000 I remember turning to one of our fellow reporters.

01:22:26.000 I was like, I'm like, why does everyone think they're Malcolm X, bro?

01:22:30.000 Everyone thinks that they're going to have their Malcolm X moment, and I just think it's that. 0.96

01:22:34.000 It's lost purpose.

01:22:36.000 And I think when people see something like that, it's tribal.

01:22:38.000 It makes them feel like they're part of something.

01:22:40.000 Maybe it feels like they're part of a revolution they're going to overturn.

01:22:45.000 What's the answer then?

01:22:48.000 If those people don't have purpose and they're out there for those reasons and they don't have anything else to turn to, then how do we fix that?

01:22:55.000 And what in our society can we...

01:22:59.000 Like I don't know how to fix that, obviously, but I think the root problem goes back to the family structure and the home.

01:23:06.000 And I think as a country, we need to do that too.

01:23:10.000 I think one of the biggest mistakes that I think that we made as a country is, for example, with women. 1.00

01:23:16.000 We like now make it seem bad that if a woman wants to stay home and like nurture her kids and just be a stay-at-home mom and just raise like three kids for them to be good citizens we like look down upon that because now it's like oh well while you're staying home you could be like out there you could be CEO of a company and you could be doing this and I just think That the whole system of not having that family structure I think is leading to a lot of these these these but also like we are in a current situation where even if moms wanted to stay at home for their kids they can't because Wages have stagnated for four years and so that the point is is that in this whole situation?

01:23:52.000 And that's why I mentioned the fact that now that Trump is gone.

01:23:54.000 It's a whole different ballgame is because just prior to that During the Trump era, it was like, well, you're either you're either for Trump or you're not.

01:24:02.000 And now that he's gone, it's like, wait a second, all the underlying problems that caused people to go to the streets in the first place on both sides of the political spectrum, those all still exist.

01:24:10.000 And so, like, unless we address those, then this will just continue.

01:24:14.000 Everybody will continue to dig deeper and deeper.

01:24:16.000 So, like, I guess the only point is, like, how do we address those underlying problems in a responsible manner in the media?

01:24:23.000 Because that's why we're here, in my opinion.

01:24:25.000 And I think, I think you're right.

01:24:26.000 I think it's an economic problem.

01:24:28.000 I think one of the biggest things that I think on the right, we just, they just failed to talk about it.

01:24:32.000 I don't know why.

01:24:33.000 For instance, like when someone on the left comes out and says, we want free college, people on the right make fun of like, Oh my God, look, this guy wants free college and blah, blah, blah.

01:24:41.000 I paid my way.

01:24:42.000 But it's just like, well, if you look at college now, we have 22 to 22 year old couples graduating.

01:24:48.000 40,000 in debt, 80,000, sometimes more.

01:24:50.000 Never had a job in their life.

01:24:50.000 Exactly.

01:24:51.000 And now, now, now that 22 year old looks at his girlfriend and says, Hey babe, I love you.

01:24:55.000 I want to get married.

01:24:56.000 I want to have kids, but we're both in debt.

01:24:58.000 And I think that there's a lot of factors in this.

01:25:01.000 So it's complicated, but I think that's one of the systems that we need to look at is, is now younger people are graduating with debt.

01:25:07.000 They're not having kids.

01:25:08.000 I know we, in the United States, we have a birth birth birth rate problem and it's not helping.

01:25:12.000 That's why I actually, I just made it, I made a tweet a week ago.

01:25:15.000 I know I'm probably going to get roasted a little bit for it, but I said, If you actually want to save the country, get married and have five kids.

01:25:22.000 You actually are serving your country if you do that.

01:25:24.000 Mark that time code to cancel Jorge.

01:25:28.000 But I do believe, you know, corporations, politics, politicians, they all have made it harder for us to have families, have kids.

01:25:35.000 And I think we're now seeing that destruction come out in society when it comes to riots and protests and all the crime that we're seeing.

01:25:40.000 That's why they're going into schools though.

01:25:42.000 They're going to schools with critical race theory to make sure that even if you have kids, they're gonna indoctrinate them before you can. 1.00

01:25:48.000 Yeah, they want to keep people confused.

01:25:50.000 And I want to say that, I mean, like the Federal Reserve, we've got to default on that interest to the Federal Reserve and evolve our economy to a cryptocurrency economy.

01:25:56.000 But I got to say, Ian, when you bring up the Federal Reserve, you're basically like, imagine there's a giant Mechagodzilla and you're pointing to one of his claws on his finger going, that's the problem right there, that one finger.

01:26:06.000 And we're like, bro, it's Mechagodzilla.

01:26:08.000 Yeah, but if you hit it with a laser, it will accelerate the heat and then it will send the whole thing into psychic shock.

01:26:15.000 I don't think so, man.

01:26:16.000 It has many weak points.

01:26:18.000 The finger is one of them.

01:26:20.000 It is a good point.

01:26:20.000 The Federal Reserve is a broken system that basically allows special interests to extract the value of the working class and the labor force and then buy ridiculous things with it, and we don't even know what they're doing.

01:26:30.000 But the bigger problem is just, before you can even get to that, you gotta deal with the fact that Mechagodzilla's got a force field.

01:26:37.000 The media.

01:26:38.000 How do you get people to actually help you build the powerful laser to take out Mechagodzilla's index finger?

01:26:44.000 I mean, dude, you got a pretty legit operation here.

01:26:46.000 I mean, that's testament to the fact that somebody who speaks the alternative, you know, something that's beyond just, like, the corporate talking points, they can succeed.

01:26:54.000 Rods from Gob?

01:26:55.000 The Riot Squad, at least.

01:26:57.000 I can give Jorge, like, one to two sandwiches a week when he does a real good job.

01:27:03.000 Of course, please.

01:27:06.000 So in terms of Fox News talking to you and CNN talking to you about what happened with Rittenhouse, where do you think you were able to actually express the truth the best?

01:27:16.000 On CNN, after I threatened to sue them.

01:27:18.000 The CNN gave you the best opportunity?

01:27:19.000 Yeah, after I threatened to sue them.

01:27:22.000 I'm serious.

01:27:23.000 Like it was only and it was the same guy who did the original story and I give him a lot of credit for coming back and doing it.

01:27:28.000 But also I think, you know, probably I don't really know what happened behind the scenes, but probably somebody was like, you screwed this up.

01:27:34.000 You better not get us sued.

01:27:35.000 Now throw an independent media and out of all the different platforms that exist.

01:27:39.000 So I think that the independent media has kind of, if you're digital media, right, then you're only as powerful as how many views you get.

01:27:47.000 You're only as relevant as how many retweets you get.

01:27:50.000 That's why Jorge, Shelby and I and everybody at The Caller, it's like, yo, don't use terminology just to get likes.

01:27:56.000 Don't say just exactly what your audience wants to hear.

01:27:59.000 And in fact, oftentimes we're doing quite the opposite.

01:28:02.000 But over time, hopefully, you know, that So I think, I think, uh, the challenges, you know, I think it's hilarious.

01:28:10.000 The left leftists like, you know, would call me a grifter, but it's based upon their pulling bunk clips.

01:28:16.000 I wish I would just, you know, look, there's so many people on YouTube who just say the most outrageous shock stuff and they get the biggest views.

01:28:22.000 And it ain't my channel.

01:28:24.000 Certainly there are people who criticize the titles I use, but I'm like, those are my actual opinions, man.

01:28:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:29.000 I'm not simply saying things for the sake of, you know, trying to build the biggest audience.

01:28:33.000 Otherwise, I probably have a lot bigger audience.

01:28:35.000 Honestly, I'd be playing Minecraft, Fortnite, or some other modern video game, which is family friendly.

01:28:40.000 Just do this.

01:28:41.000 Exactly.

01:28:42.000 You open a private browser and go to YouTube, and I assure you, people who are in politics,

01:28:46.000 I think for the most part, aren't grifting.

01:28:47.000 I think they believe it.

01:28:48.000 They just believe wrong things.

01:28:50.000 And that includes me, that includes progressives.

01:28:53.000 I think for the most part, most people in politics aren't grifting, except for the corporate media that are trying to get their foot in the door.

01:28:59.000 I think independent media tends to be alright.

01:29:02.000 At least in terms of what they think.

01:29:03.000 Corporate media for sure is grifting because they'll literally just get a PR statement from the Democratic Party and they'll just report it.

01:29:08.000 So MSNBC to me, they're just PR for the Democratic Party.

01:29:12.000 So grifting season on day for them.

01:29:14.000 Is CNN not that?

01:29:16.000 No, but I mean, I think it's actually, and I hear people say this all the time, like, oh, you know, corporate media, they want this or they want that.

01:29:23.000 It's not to say that like, because like working at NBC and MSNBC, I would say the real revealing thing was that not the fact that like everything is scripted per se, it's still live, but if you step out of line from those, you know, you're on the B, you're in the B block, right?

01:29:39.000 You're this guest and your perspective is this.

01:29:41.000 If you stray from that, you say something that was unpredictable to those producers, buh-bye.

01:29:45.000 You'll never be on MSNBC ever again.

01:29:48.000 Glenn Greenwald talked about that.

01:29:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:50.000 So it's like, it's not that it's like, you know, you have Zucker being like, you have to say this or else.

01:29:55.000 It's like really just, It's the same thing that you see with people wanting to post a black box on their Instagram.

01:30:01.000 It's like, everybody else is doing it, and if I don't do it, then I'm the outcast.

01:30:06.000 And so, it's self-policing.

01:30:09.000 It's not like somebody has to stand up there and say, do this.

01:30:11.000 Man, where's punk rock gone, man?

01:30:14.000 No, seriously.

01:30:14.000 It's at the Daily Caller.

01:30:15.000 It's in your heart.

01:30:16.000 No, no, listen, listen.

01:30:16.000 These punk bands are pro-establishment.

01:30:19.000 I don't know if you guys noticed the bad religion pun that I made earlier.

01:30:24.000 I think I made a joke about it with Richie.

01:30:26.000 It's funny how everyone thinks they're part of the revolution.

01:30:28.000 I'm like, Amazon is on your side.

01:30:30.000 Netflix is on your side.

01:30:31.000 Everyone's like, oh the revolution will only be televised.

01:30:33.000 I'm like, Amazon and Netflix are on your side.

01:30:35.000 I gotta tell you, when bad religion is on the side of Amazon, Sounds like it'll be a quick revolution if that's the case.

01:30:43.000 It'll be very quick.

01:30:45.000 Please tell me Rage Against the Machine is still hopefully not an establishment.

01:30:51.000 They're Rage on behalf of the Machine.

01:30:54.000 That's been the meme for a long time.

01:30:56.000 Rage Against the Machine is on the side of Amazon.

01:30:59.000 Thank you, I'm gonna do what you tell me!

01:31:02.000 Thank you, I'm gonna do what you tell me!

01:31:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:05.000 It used to be F you, I won't do what you tell me.

01:31:07.000 Now it's, yes sir, I'll do what you tell me.

01:31:11.000 Or actually, it's F you, do what they tell you.

01:31:14.000 Oh, that's worse.

01:31:15.000 That's what it is.

01:31:16.000 They're coming to your house, they're coming to your business, they're burning it down.

01:31:19.000 They're not saying they're gonna do what they're being told, they're gonna say you do what you're told, or else.

01:31:23.000 Oh my god.

01:31:24.000 Yeah, man.

01:31:25.000 Come on, Rage. 0.84

01:31:25.000 That was hilarious. 0.84

01:31:26.000 That was better than that, man.

01:31:27.000 Remember growing up on Bulls on Parade?

01:31:29.000 When all these punk bands, you know, were all of a sudden, like, pro-machine.

01:31:33.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:31:34.000 I'm like, there you go.

01:31:34.000 The machine won, I guess.

01:31:35.000 I don't know what punk is anymore.

01:31:37.000 I think of it as just, like, counterculture.

01:31:39.000 But not even punk, too.

01:31:40.000 Like, hip-hop and rap was super against establishment, man.

01:31:43.000 Like, back in the 90s, you had the N.W.A.F., the police department.

01:31:46.000 And then now, it's like, you know, they're on Amazon and Nike, and it's like, What happened to hip-hop?

01:31:52.000 Hip-hop used to be so rebellious.

01:31:53.000 Corporations figured it out, man.

01:31:55.000 You look at Public Enemy and the things they were saying, and the corporations were like, how can we stop these people yelling at us?

01:32:00.000 I know, we'll adopt their message, it won't hurt us in the least bit, and they'll have no choice but to be like, I guess we agree with the corporations.

01:32:06.000 And they had these rappers tab dancing for Joe Biden when I'm like, you're in the 90s, they were chilling your dad, bro!

01:32:10.000 Well, that's the point, though.

01:32:12.000 At the time, and I talked to my mom about this.

01:32:15.000 Shout out to mom one more time. 0.76

01:32:17.000 But seriously, though, because my parents lived in Washington, D.C.

01:32:21.000 during the counterculture movement of the late 60s and early 70s.

01:32:24.000 But at that time, were corporations like, support the anti-Vietnam War effort?

01:32:31.000 No, they were not.

01:32:32.000 At that time, counterculture is a critique on the mainstream, right?

01:32:36.000 But when the critique, when counterculture becomes the mainstream, then there's no critique, it's just the mainstream.

01:32:44.000 So we're meta now, like the critique is the mainstream now.

01:32:48.000 So what ground do we have to stand on collectively that we're critiquing?

01:32:52.000 And we're also watching too, Richie, we're watching the realignment happen in real time.

01:32:55.000 You know, back in the 90s, or when your parents were growing up, the left was anti-big business.

01:33:00.000 And, you know, they're anti-corporations.

01:33:02.000 That was me.

01:33:03.000 I was anti-Bush and now all of a sudden people are like... The left in the 70s would be mad at the wages that Amazon is paying their employees now.

01:33:09.000 They're just happy that Amazon puts a Black Lives Matter thing while they're shipping a product on Amazon Prime. 0.90

01:33:13.000 But to be fair, the progressives don't like Amazon.

01:33:15.000 It's like the neoliberal, uninitiated, mindless Democrat voters.

01:33:22.000 Because I'll tell you this. 0.95

01:33:25.000 Look, I don't care for the grifter type. 1.00

01:33:28.000 I shouldn't say grifter.

01:33:29.000 I'm trying to be nice.

01:33:29.000 But there's a lot of progressives who seem to be tribalist and they will defend the neoliberal, mindless Democrat voters.

01:33:36.000 But there are some progressives, pro-gun, anti-establishment, don't like Joe Biden.

01:33:41.000 We agree on all that stuff.

01:33:42.000 I'm not going to argue with you.

01:33:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:45.000 Like, I don't know, I mean, we can argue about economics as friends and we can have a good time and then celebrate that we're all armed to the teeth and stand in opposition to the war machine and the manipulation of massive corporations.

01:33:57.000 I'm cool with the progressives on that one and the conservatives on that one.

01:34:00.000 I think the libertarian... Actually, I'll put it this way.

01:34:02.000 It was a funny meme from Political Compass Memes.

01:34:05.000 And it's the Libertarian left and the Libertarian right.

01:34:07.000 The Libertarian left says, defund the police.

01:34:10.000 And the Libertarian right smiling.

01:34:12.000 And then the next one is the Libertarian left grinning and saying, because they're racist.

01:34:16.000 And the Libertarian right getting angry.

01:34:18.000 Like, dude, I don't care what your reason is for it.

01:34:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:22.000 I think the Libertarian right and left are both in agreement.

01:34:24.000 When do you think, I mean, it's very clear that the kind of populist left and the populist right have No, you're not.

01:34:30.000 you know, an anti-establishment bend to them, which is like, let's let's reassess the way that, you know, we do

01:34:35.000 government, etc.

01:34:36.000 When are those two sides going to see eye to eye?

01:34:39.000 Because right now what we're seeing is the left basically being held hostage by the fact that Biden, who's a centrist,

01:34:46.000 was elected.

01:34:47.000 Now, I'll tell you the problem.

01:34:48.000 A second. No, you're not.

01:34:49.000 It's the media.

01:34:50.000 No, no, no, no.

01:34:50.000 The problem is high profile leftists who are pro to a an anti-establishment willing to capitulate to establishment

01:34:58.000 Democrat voters because they want power.

01:35:02.000 I'm not going to name these people, but I'll tell you this.

01:35:03.000 Power or approval?

01:35:05.000 They want power.

01:35:06.000 So they don't like Donald Trump.

01:35:08.000 The populist left doesn't like the idea of hard nationalist capitalism, whatever.

01:35:12.000 They want socialism.

01:35:14.000 So they feel it's easier to topple Joe Biden than Trump.

01:35:17.000 So they align themselves with neoliberal establishment Democrat types, That's why AOC votes for Nancy Pelosi.

01:35:25.000 Look what Marjorie Taylor Greene's doing. 1.00

01:35:28.000 The Republicans hate her guts. 0.90

01:35:29.000 She's like going nuclear. 0.99

01:35:30.000 She raised like three million bucks last time. 0.99

01:35:32.000 Yeah, it was massive.

01:35:33.000 And now she's trying to get Maxine Waters booted. 1.00

01:35:36.000 She's just absolutely like taking a torch to the machine.

01:35:40.000 And the Republicans hate her guts for it.

01:35:42.000 Yeah, majors being what AOC was supposed to be.

01:35:44.000 Because AOC was supposed to be anti-establishment, forced to vote, Medicare for all, $15 minimum wage.

01:35:48.000 Ain't getting none of that.

01:35:50.000 No forced to vote, nothing.

01:35:51.000 This is the problem.

01:35:51.000 I can look to some of these leftists who are pro-2A, anti-establishment, and I'm like, that's a good start.

01:35:56.000 And then they're like, but I will always throw my hat in with the establishment because it gets me power.

01:36:00.000 I'm like, okay, now we got a problem.

01:36:02.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a tale as old as time right there.

01:36:05.000 For me, it was like if you're, you know, because I'm always speaking to progressives, but if you're a progressive voter, you wanted a $15 minimum wage, universal health care and all that stuff.

01:36:12.000 You didn't get any of it.

01:36:13.000 You didn't get it.

01:36:14.000 And the progressives that in Washington, D.C.

01:36:16.000 didn't even fight or force the vote.

01:36:18.000 Let's pull this into perspective.

01:36:19.000 You're not even getting a $15 minimum wage.

01:36:20.000 That's crazy.

01:36:21.000 The Trump voters hate the Republicans.

01:36:24.000 They hate Mitch McConnell.

01:36:25.000 They don't like Lindsey Graham. 0.96

01:36:26.000 They call Mike Pence a traitor.

01:36:29.000 Donald Trump was aggressive and stormed in and took over the Republicans.

01:36:33.000 Bernie Sanders stormed in and got shoved down, and the Bernie Sanders types decided to agree with the Democrats for the sake of just maintaining some kind of leverage, and the Trump supporters took over.

01:36:43.000 And then the Republicans fought Trump, agreed with Russiagate, tried to get him out, and then literally did.

01:36:49.000 It's interesting you say that because a lot during the 2016 election, a lot of the Daily Caller subscribers followers were all uh... bernie supporters

01:36:57.000 but i think the edit just it goes to show that hillary clinton was kind of

01:37:01.000 ideologically representative of the centrist establishment which is like

01:37:06.000 we'll just keep those wars going and everything else i became we saw he died

01:37:09.000 haha haha you also saw a generation of voters on the left and right

01:37:13.000 they said well why we keep voting for these people

01:37:15.000 They just shipped our jobs to China, my dad is now on opioids, and we're getting a divorce, and our family's breaking up.

01:37:21.000 So, that's a thing.

01:37:22.000 But for me, the reason why we're not seeing the populist left and the populist right come more together than it already is, is because of media.

01:37:29.000 Like I said, if you turn on Fox, and anyone that agrees with Bernie Sanders on free education and free healthcare, they're a Nazi and a communist.

01:37:36.000 When it's like, yo, when it comes to the healthcare system and big education, they're gonna screw you over whether you're a Republican or a Democrat.

01:37:42.000 I don't think Tucker does that.

01:37:44.000 I think Fox has... Not Tucker, but I think the majority... I think it's mostly the mainstream press.

01:37:51.000 Why is it that Tucker is willing to have on Antifa?

01:37:54.000 Why is it that... Tucker has Jimmy Doran.

01:37:56.000 The Koch brothers and George Soros very much have the same, you know, well Koch brothers, sorry, RIP other Koch brother.

01:38:03.000 It's establishment politics.

01:38:04.000 It's a combo of that and I think a hormonal imbalance in society due to obesity.

01:38:10.000 It's like the large 60 plus percent of Americans are considered obese since like the late 90s.

01:38:15.000 It's like these people are under mind control.

01:38:19.000 They've become pawns to this system and they're like going at each other.

01:38:23.000 I never get more fired up and ready to rip this thing down than when I'm fasting.

01:38:28.000 When I don't have enough.

01:38:29.000 When I come at this from lack, I get riled up.

01:38:32.000 I get the energy.

01:38:34.000 And that's what we're missing.

01:38:35.000 That's where punk rock is gone.

01:38:36.000 So why is Antifa burning the system down?

01:38:39.000 They're well fed.

01:38:41.000 Well, that's a tough question.

01:38:42.000 There's a lot of different individuals in the lottery.

01:38:45.000 Just on a real quick little tip that Richie brought on the Koch brothers, if you guys remember in 2015 when people would interview Bernie Sanders about his 2016 run, they would say, do you support open borders?

01:38:54.000 Bernie Sanders would say, absolutely not.

01:38:56.000 Open borders is a big establishment move by the Koch brothers.

01:38:59.000 The thing is, now he moved into a window and I think Bernie doesn't believe it, but he just has to say it because he's on that side.

01:39:04.000 Now he has to say, Uh, you know, I wasn't for that, but even Bernie said in his 2015 interviews, if we do open boards, it hurts American wages first.

01:39:12.000 That's right.

01:39:13.000 Well, how about we jump over to Super Chats and see what the audience has to say.

01:39:16.000 So for all of you that are listening, make sure you smash that like button, share the podcast if you really like it, that really helps, and subscribe.

01:39:22.000 And if you're listening on iTunes or Spotify, leave us a good review, give us five stars, let's see what we got.

01:39:26.000 TripSucks says, I have been a pro graffiti writer for 15 years and I've tagged 20 countries, including Antarctica.

01:39:32.000 I'd love to help decorate a portion of the skate park and give you all a demo of how it's done.

01:39:36.000 What's the best method to contact?

01:39:39.000 Pitches at TimCast.com should now be live for anybody who has an idea.

01:39:44.000 We're taking pitches on movies, video games.

01:39:48.000 That's a lot harder to do.

01:39:49.000 Short films, movies, documentaries, shows, and art projects.

01:39:52.000 But I will advise you, we're going to get a ton of emails.

01:39:57.000 And I can only just say serious pitches only, because with all due respect, I want to be nice, because I really do appreciate everybody who's interested.

01:40:06.000 We do get a lot of people who have no relevant experience in many areas asking to do jobs that they can't do.

01:40:12.000 I mean, I'm trying to be, you know, again, with all due respect, I appreciate the interest in some of these jobs, but if you're someone who's, like, not worked in media and you want to now all of a sudden make a video, there's a lot you probably don't realize you don't know, and so it's not as easy to do.

01:40:26.000 But, you know, I think we're definitely accommodating for a lot of people, so pitches at TimCast.com.

01:40:33.000 All right, Tommy Durgarian says, amazing content as always.

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01:40:43.000 Cool.

01:40:44.000 All right, let's see.

01:40:46.000 Alex Thomas says, are you avoiding talking about BitClout because you have your own site you have being developed?

01:40:51.000 I don't know what BitClout is.

01:40:54.000 Christian Jamagochian says, Tim, I'm seeing videos about the Grind Bar and Compound all over YouTube.

01:40:59.000 You're becoming Dyrdek 2.0, complete with your own fantasy factory in the mountains. 0.91

01:41:04.000 Keep on being awesome, y'all.

01:41:06.000 A bunch of videos are popping up about that.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, I haven't seen any.

01:41:09.000 They're popping up, the Grind Bar.

01:41:10.000 My friends, the vlog is live.

01:41:13.000 It is Castcastle, and you can find it very easily on this YouTube channel in the community section I linked to it.

01:41:19.000 Uh, I don't think I... I don't know if I said a URL or anything.

01:41:22.000 I just made a YouTube channel.

01:41:23.000 I was like, you know, it's actually, I think it's a really old YouTube channel.

01:41:26.000 I just called it Cascastle and put a video on it.

01:41:28.000 Cause you just start somewhere.

01:41:30.000 And, uh, that might not be the name moving forward.

01:41:32.000 Probably not.

01:41:33.000 I just, I was like, we filmed a vlog.

01:41:34.000 We're going to put it up.

01:41:35.000 This dude grinded the grind bar.

01:41:36.000 The other, the other day we filmed, uh, we have a race car that was a hundred miles an hour and we literally jumped the whole garage.

01:41:43.000 It was awesome.

01:41:45.000 How far did it go?

01:41:46.000 Dude, it went so far.

01:41:47.000 I don't know, a hundred feet?

01:41:49.000 It went way over.

01:41:50.000 It's a big garage, not a regular garage.

01:41:52.000 It's like a big garage with a skate park in it.

01:41:54.000 And it just went... Multiple camera angles.

01:41:57.000 It's gonna be fun.

01:41:57.000 We're gonna get that up soon.

01:41:58.000 Yeah.

01:41:59.000 That was awesome.

01:42:00.000 That was yesterday, right?

01:42:01.000 DermiWormy says, in regards to Falcon and Winter Soldier, you need to talk to Gary from Nerdrotic.

01:42:06.000 We will have a bonus segment coming up where I will get into all of that stuff, because I have... I think Falcon and Winter Soldier is actually nuanced and relatively anti-woke.

01:42:15.000 I do.

01:42:16.000 I think that Falcon is realizing the problems of racism from anybody.

01:42:22.000 And I'll get into that.

01:42:23.000 We'll save it for the bonus segment.

01:42:26.000 Alright, let's see where we're at.

01:42:28.000 Gorechild says, Tim, you should clarify.

01:42:29.000 You said Maxine Waters might be caused to overturn the election at the trial.

01:42:33.000 Oh, is that what I did?

01:42:34.000 First thing you said.

01:42:35.000 Oh, really?

01:42:36.000 We didn't want to interrupt you.

01:42:38.000 You're on one.

01:42:39.000 We didn't want to interrupt you, but.

01:42:40.000 Oh, whoops.

01:42:42.000 It was like, it was, you said it with so much conviction that there was no going, you know?

01:42:48.000 I wonder if YouTube is going to understand I just misspoke.

01:42:50.000 Hopefully.

01:42:51.000 I think I can answer your question about why these Antifa kids are rioting, even though they're not eating properly.

01:42:55.000 I don't think they are hormonally balanced.

01:42:58.000 Because fasting, you've got to eat healthy and then stop eating for 16 hours.

01:43:02.000 And these people are probably just eating crap, maybe, and don't have a good home life, so their psychology is all out of whack.

01:43:11.000 Vitamin D. The home life. 0.98

01:43:13.000 He knows what I'm talking about, man.

01:43:14.000 It's a big thing.

01:43:15.000 All right.

01:43:16.000 Sonny James says, Tim, I think you're exactly right about fifth generational warfare in regards to foreign-sponsored propaganda.

01:43:21.000 However, I think you're totally wrong about the drone capture of Uyghur men taken to education camps.

01:43:26.000 I saw men being drafted for the purpose of war.

01:43:29.000 Interesting.

01:43:30.000 Well, a lot of people, you don't really know what the video is.

01:43:36.000 We just trust news sources, right?

01:43:38.000 That's that video of like a bunch of people in blue?

01:43:40.000 Yeah, with their heads shaved.

01:43:42.000 Bradley L5000 says, Tim, thanks for the Dogecoin tip.

01:43:46.000 Made a little money.

01:43:47.000 Guest suggestion, David Park and Jack Murphy, the other Jack from Team House Podcast.

01:43:52.000 There's another Jack Murphy?

01:43:53.000 Uh oh.

01:43:54.000 Didn't realize there was more than one.

01:43:55.000 Both on at the same time.

01:43:58.000 Tomorrow is the day of the doge.

01:44:00.000 Jonathan Drown says, Tim it's easy to run away when you have a million dollars to drop on a compound in the middle of nowhere.

01:44:05.000 Ian is at right for once.

01:44:07.000 I will just say, nobody who buys a million dollar property actually has a million dollars.

01:44:14.000 When they talk about celebrities who bought like a five million dollar property, they may have put zero down.

01:44:18.000 Yeah.

01:44:18.000 0% down and they may have gotten a crappy interest rate.

01:44:21.000 Everybody assumes that like I think Donald Trump put it best.

01:44:24.000 We tells that story where he like pointed to one of his kids and says,

01:44:27.000 see, the homeless guy, he's worth more than I am because Trump's liabilities

01:44:30.000 were higher than his assets.

01:44:31.000 So people need to understand that.

01:44:33.000 And I will also add, I moved to Los Angeles from Chicago with $200 cash and

01:44:38.000 no plan.

01:44:39.000 Yeah, this guy works hard.

01:44:40.000 What he's trying to say is, I started from the bottom, now I'm here.

01:44:43.000 That's right.

01:44:43.000 That's what I'm hearing.

01:44:45.000 Tell him, Tim.

01:44:45.000 You put the grind in.

01:44:46.000 You came from the gutter.

01:44:47.000 You came from the trenches.

01:44:48.000 New Jersey is definitely the gutter.

01:44:50.000 I'll tell you that. 0.95

01:44:51.000 Icos8 says, take out the dumb Federal Reserve part and you might have an interesting point, Ian.

01:44:56.000 Oh! 0.90

01:44:57.000 Oh, snap! 1.00

01:44:57.000 Wait, I want to think back to that. 1.00

01:44:59.000 So when you were talking about fighting the machine or whatever, you referenced the Federal Reserve for no reason.

01:45:04.000 Oh, defaulting on the interest to the Federal Reserve.

01:45:07.000 Yeah, Ian just came on stream swinging at the Federal Reserve today.

01:45:09.000 Poverty is a driving force of this, and I think the Federal Reserve is keeping us there with their interest rates.

01:45:14.000 All right.

01:45:14.000 With their interest in general.

01:45:15.000 Dalimar says, Yes they are, Tim.

01:45:17.000 Look what happened in Kenosha.

01:45:18.000 The kid is now going through court for defending his community.

01:45:21.000 Standing up gets you beaten or jailed.

01:45:23.000 Two options.

01:45:23.000 Let them loot.

01:45:24.000 I don't know, I'm not going to read that part.

01:45:27.000 Yeah.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, the options are very serious.

01:45:31.000 Uh-oh, what's this?

01:45:32.000 Kaiser C says, Ian, sun's getting real low, big guy.

01:45:35.000 Come back to us, good sir.

01:45:36.000 Another news, will of the people was really good.

01:45:39.000 I didn't get it.

01:45:40.000 Gareth Green says, Tim and Ian are at it again.

01:45:42.000 Sorry, I haven't posted for months.

01:45:44.000 I was spending nearly as much on super chats as I made per month.

01:45:47.000 You both sound like collectivists, but I'm more with Tim.

01:45:50.000 Death by starvation is the default for all living things.

01:45:53.000 Yo part of me really is with you on this like let him just let him suffer. 1.00

01:45:58.000 I think about that a lot like are humans a virus on this planet and we just got to let it eat itself out or should we be stand up for these ignorant fools and help them survive? 1.00

01:46:07.000 Human beings are a disease. 1.00

01:46:09.000 You know that? 0.99

01:46:10.000 I am a gorilla?

01:46:11.000 You know, The Matrix?

01:46:12.000 Agent Smith? 1.00

01:46:14.000 He says they're a parasite. 0.99

01:46:15.000 Is there something to that? 1.00

01:46:17.000 Or do we help these fools? 1.00

01:46:20.000 It's the smell! 1.00

01:46:21.000 What do we do?

01:46:22.000 Because if we give people unlimited food, are they just going to eat themselves into starvation?

01:46:27.000 Are they going to just overpopulate and then wipe out the planet?

01:46:30.000 Is starvation and death a natural survival mechanism for our species?

01:46:34.000 I asked Alex Jones.

01:46:35.000 What'd he say?

01:46:36.000 Well, because I said, look at the Great Reset stuff.

01:46:40.000 What if it's true that we are like yeast in, you know, just eating the sugars and farting ourselves to death?

01:46:46.000 Are we destined just to reach a point where we just eventually, you know, just fart ourselves to death?

01:46:52.000 Maybe we do need some kind of reset to kind of stop humans from just eating until we explode.

01:46:58.000 Alex was like, you know, he's like, it's an important question because I think about this all the time.

01:47:03.000 You know, how do you balance the fact that we may be on a runaway train to destroy civilization as we know it, with the same fact that you can't be an authoritarian wingnut, manipulating, you know, people and stealing their rights?

01:47:15.000 It's like, it's a tough question, man.

01:47:18.000 The problem is, I don't trust the people who tell me the world is ending, and the oceans are rising, and they buy beachfront property.

01:47:24.000 It's like, look man, if you really want to convince me of all these problems, like, we gotta stop overpopulation because global warming, then you go and buy beachfront property?

01:47:32.000 I kind of think you're lying to me about this.

01:47:34.000 We need to take a private jet to Europe for a conference?

01:47:36.000 I'm not saying I think climate change isn't a real problem.

01:47:39.000 I do think humans contribute to it.

01:47:41.000 I just think they want to hold us down and exploit the wealth and riches for themselves.

01:47:45.000 That was one of the best series that we did ever on the Daily Caller vid squad was Walls Across America.

01:47:49.000 It was all these people are criticizing the walls.

01:47:51.000 We went to their houses and filmed how massive the walls were around their homes.

01:47:55.000 We should do an update for Barry O and John Kerry on their beachfront property.

01:48:00.000 The sea level is, what, two feet there?

01:48:03.000 We definitely got to reorganize the way people live so we don't starve and overpopulate. 1.00

01:48:09.000 But can we do that with stupid or ignorant people lining the... But why are people ignorant? 1.00

01:48:15.000 You're saying stupid or ignorant. 1.00

01:48:16.000 That's like a scapegoatism, right? 1.00

01:48:17.000 They've eaten the wrong foods and now they're just blind zombies. 0.95

01:48:23.000 And the media that's intentionally like making them sheep for money to make them like hogs. 0.99

01:48:28.000 But can you blame those people?

01:48:30.000 I can't blame them, but the problem itself isn't necessarily the reason there's a problem, but you still have to eradicate the problem, often.

01:48:38.000 Yeah, but it's exactly, but...

01:48:40.000 the approach of eradicating the problem rather than going to the root and

01:48:44.000 digging out the roots.

01:48:45.000 But I think digging out the roots will kill the problem as well.

01:48:48.000 So like what?

01:48:48.000 Yeah.

01:48:49.000 So how do we dig out the roots?

01:48:50.000 My question.

01:48:50.000 Yeah.

01:48:50.000 I don't know.

01:48:51.000 Rather than just chop it off.

01:48:52.000 Change.

01:48:52.000 I don't know, man.

01:48:53.000 This is, this is the same thing I go over.

01:48:56.000 Like I want to help these people because that's my empathy.

01:49:00.000 But I'm also a realist.

01:49:02.000 And if people are destroying themselves and the world with them, what's the value of keeping them?

01:49:07.000 Don't you think like that?

01:49:09.000 You know, the ebbs and flows of the two party system have a tendency to oscillate between, like, you know, chaos and order, you know, the creative and the authoritarian.

01:49:20.000 Like, so everybody in the 1960s was like, oh, my God, these kids are going to be the death of us.

01:49:25.000 And now those kids are boomers.

01:49:26.000 Right. 0.96

01:49:27.000 And now those kids are freaking boomers.

01:49:29.000 So how did this system course correct?

01:49:32.000 Well, I think like responsibility kicked in.

01:49:36.000 Well, culture came around and politics is downstream of culture.

01:49:40.000 Not to use that overwrought Breitbart quote, but it kind of is.

01:49:43.000 And so Reagan was elected after Clint Eastwood became the, you know, the cool, strong alpha male, that archetype, that male archetype in the 1970s on the tail end of this.

01:49:56.000 I think what Donald Trump did was he kind of, like, just hijacked the entire political system, and before our culture was able to course-correct back in that Clint Eastwood direction, you know, he basically hijacked it, and now everyone's like, oh my god, the whole thing's burning down, because it's not a natural ebb and flow.

01:50:13.000 All right, well, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:50:14.000 Because of the media, the power of the media.

01:50:16.000 Robert Yes says, the world is going insane, but at least I have my doge coin, like a good doggo.

01:50:21.000 Also, I love the show.

01:50:22.000 Use this Super Chat to buy the team some doge.

01:50:25.000 Full disclosure, I bought a bunch of doge.

01:50:28.000 I'll keep this kind of light.

01:50:35.000 But, um, because I don't like, I'm, I'm wary of the idea that, you know, a lot of people watching, you mentioned you're buying something.

01:50:40.000 I'll say this.

01:50:41.000 I've actually become fairly confident in Doge.

01:50:43.000 That's all I can really say.

01:50:44.000 So I bought some.

01:50:46.000 No, I'm not going to elaborate any further on that because I don't want to, I want to fully disclose.

01:50:51.000 I bought Doge.

01:50:52.000 That's what I'm trying to do.

01:50:53.000 It's a cute dog.

01:50:54.000 Super chatters.

01:50:55.000 I think it's funny.

01:50:56.000 And I think humor is confidence.

01:50:57.000 Send your boy Jorge to Vegas on some doge.

01:51:00.000 No comment, but I will definitely do something if doge goes up.

01:51:03.000 No, I'm not saying this.

01:51:04.000 I think the joke is showing people have confidence and confidence.

01:51:08.000 It's bringing people together.

01:51:09.000 So I like, I like it.

01:51:11.000 I bought some.

01:51:13.000 Alright, let's see.

01:51:14.000 Joshua Sanfilippo says, Police are cool and all, but where are the local private militias and armed private citizens standing to defend life, liberty, and property?

01:51:22.000 I live in Florida, and I know what I'd be doing if the riots were happening down here.

01:51:26.000 Weren't there people doing that in Minnesota?

01:51:27.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, well, in the Brooklyn Center, there was people that came out and defended businesses after the first night, so...

01:51:33.000 Those folks did come out. They might not always get the media attention that they deserve, but they did come out.

01:51:38.000 They did defend those businesses.

01:51:40.000 But like, Rittenhouse was kind of like one of those people, right?

01:51:43.000 Like a local militia, and look how he got raked.

01:51:46.000 It's not really militia, you know? People coming out. I guess you could call it that.

01:51:50.000 It doesn't have to be militia. It could even just be like, even small business owners just came out and defended their

01:51:53.000 own little business.

01:51:54.000 That's what I call a militia.

01:51:55.000 This one's for you, Ian, from a fan with some criticism.

01:51:58.000 Thank you.

01:51:59.000 Sarcaden says, Ian, you're awesome, man.

01:52:00.000 I love what you bring to the show, but I need you to work on knowing when you are derailing a conversation.

01:52:06.000 I think I think I do know some like today.

01:52:07.000 I was like, I am derailing right now.

01:52:09.000 Come with me, everyone.

01:52:11.000 He's like, but what about graphene?

01:52:13.000 Yeah.

01:52:13.000 Can I make the Federal Reserve?

01:52:15.000 I talk about aliens at one point.

01:52:16.000 That was great.

01:52:17.000 The frontal lobe flow state.

01:52:19.000 I want to go deeper.

01:52:20.000 Hey, this is a good super chat.

01:52:22.000 Dr. DeLuna says, YouTube is basically the Minneapolis of the video hosting platforms.

01:52:26.000 It still makes money off those who choose to stay.

01:52:29.000 When's the move to alt tech platform scheduled?

01:52:32.000 Timcast.com has been up and running for only a few months now, and we are actively working on producing new content on that platform exclusively, as well as some YouTube stuff, because we're not looking at, in my opinion, the same thing as we have a ride about to erupt in our city and it's going to burn to the ground and you need to find a place to live.

01:52:50.000 We're looking at a massive cultural shift with what YouTube does and what is important for a business.

01:52:55.000 So I'll tell you this.

01:52:56.000 YouTube has proven itself an unsafe place to do business.

01:52:59.000 100%.

01:53:00.000 People who have dedicated their lives to following YouTube, or I'm sorry, their careers to following YouTube's rules, find themselves banned overnight for no reason without understanding why.

01:53:09.000 Or they get strikes and then they're accused of things.

01:53:11.000 You look at, say, Steven Crowder.

01:53:13.000 He's followed the rules.

01:53:14.000 He's gotten into it with YouTube.

01:53:15.000 YouTube's tried taking him down.

01:53:16.000 But what happens when you dedicate a decade to producing content for YouTube, YouTube says, here are the rules, say, you got it, and then eventually they change the rules and arbitrarily enforce taking you down?

01:53:26.000 YouTube is an unsafe place to run a business.

01:53:30.000 We're setting up TimCast.com and we've repeatedly talked about creating an open source subscription service.

01:53:36.000 So the issue is right now we're trying to build something new.

01:53:40.000 Ian.

01:53:41.000 It's very exciting.

01:53:42.000 Hit up, hit up Ian.

01:53:43.000 If you want to talk about this open source subscription service thing that we've been talking about.

01:53:46.000 You can message me on Twitter.

01:53:48.000 Um, we have an element chat room where we've been hawking ideas.

01:53:51.000 Uh, we actually have a meeting set up tomorrow around 2 PM Eastern standard time with a bunch of developers.

01:53:56.000 And we're going to, we're going to talk about the code that we're going to use to build this.

01:53:59.000 You know what though?

01:54:00.000 You mentioning that, I think it's really encouraging to see the success of news businesses putting things behind a paywall because we created Daily Caller Patriots Only.

01:54:11.000 Small plug right there.

01:54:13.000 While we were traveling around the country to cover these riots, we found that, okay, Facebook picks up on the fact, oh, these guys are in Portland, okay, Portland riots, demonetized.

01:54:22.000 So we can't monetize it on YouTube, we can't monetize it on Facebook, but what we can do is say, hey, patriots, we're gonna show you guys what's really happening on the ground.

01:54:30.000 If you subscribe, subscribe to click, and actually, it's actually allowed us to fund not only that content, but content to show the rest of America what's going on.

01:54:38.000 And I wanna just really quick add, Richie, is, YouTube has already, this has been proven, they're hitting independent news channels or just news channels that they don't like.

01:54:50.000 Hitting them hard with algorithms and you literally can't be seen.

01:54:52.000 I mean literally at our Daily Caller thing we have over 700,000 subscribers and I mean they're just hitting us.

01:54:59.000 I mean our videos are so hitting.

01:55:00.000 People always send me messages like, hey we don't see anything on Daily Caller.

01:55:04.000 We don't see, we subscribe, we have to subscribe again.

01:55:06.000 So it is a thing.

01:55:07.000 It's already been proven.

01:55:08.000 I know it started with Jordan Sharpton at the status quo.

01:55:11.000 He's actually a progressive on the left, and a lot of progressives on the left, and I'll fight for them on the free speech thing, but a lot of news channels, independent media is getting hit by the algorithm, and a lot of these progressive left-wing channels, they cover the January 6th riots, They've sold footage to CNN and MSNBC, yet they'll get demonetized for the same footage.

01:55:30.000 I just want to clarify.

01:55:32.000 I apologize.

01:55:33.000 YouTube, I don't about anything that Jorge just said.

01:55:37.000 Love you guys.

01:55:37.000 And when you go to the Daily Caller's videos, hit the like button because then you'll be way more likely to see it.

01:55:42.000 But you probably won't.

01:55:43.000 I love you.

01:55:44.000 We got Dave Weissbrick, he says, Tim, bold of you to tell city people to stand up to rioters regardless of the consequences when you ran away to the countryside due to last year's riots.

01:55:52.000 I think I repeatedly told people to leave Minneapolis over and over again, because I literally did.

01:55:57.000 So, you see, people need to understand, I'm not arbitrarily being like, people need to do something.

01:56:02.000 No, I literally was like, I'm not going to live in a place that can't protect me, so I left.

01:56:06.000 Because I don't want to be supporting that.

01:56:08.000 The people of Minneapolis could be doing that.

01:56:09.000 They're not.

01:56:10.000 They're staying there.

01:56:11.000 The cops could be doing that.

01:56:12.000 They're not.

01:56:12.000 They're staying there.

01:56:13.000 And then the system comes for them, and Kim Potter gets thrown under the bus, and I'm like, what did you think was going to happen?

01:56:20.000 Running around with, you know, all these rioters, and you think they're going... I said it over and over again.

01:56:25.000 They're knocking on each door, going after people, and you're like, I'm the one house.

01:56:29.000 They'll skip.

01:56:30.000 Sure enough, they make it to your house.

01:56:32.000 So I left.

01:56:33.000 And then what happened, like a week after we leave, riots erupted in Philly.

01:56:36.000 Yeah.

01:56:37.000 They didn't cross the bridge that time.

01:56:38.000 We were there.

01:56:39.000 Come on, man.

01:56:39.000 We were there.

01:56:40.000 Tell him, Tim.

01:56:41.000 You've been here since day one, from the trenches.

01:56:42.000 And I'm like, dude.

01:56:43.000 Shout out to Eli.

01:56:43.000 You got punched in the face.

01:56:44.000 No matter where you are, you have to live your life.

01:56:46.000 Man, y'all coming at Tim like he ain't been from the trenches.

01:56:48.000 That's right.

01:56:49.000 Ben Walker says, Meaning and purpose are a person's best defense against ideologies of any kind.

01:56:54.000 Highly recommend Viktor Frankl's Man's Searching for Meaning.

01:56:57.000 The concept of an existential vacuum helps with understanding the position many of these people are in.

01:57:01.000 Good super chat.

01:57:02.000 Good super chat.

01:57:03.000 Wimblow says, remember when bad religion used to be punk?

01:57:05.000 Oh, good superchats, I like that. 0.96

01:57:09.000 Bad religion. 1.00

01:57:10.000 Did you guys notice the shout out I did to bad religion earlier? 0.50

01:57:13.000 Yes.

01:57:14.000 You noticed? 0.97

01:57:15.000 When I said, maybe his dad's a lazy, passive intellectual. 0.97

01:57:18.000 Mom's on Valium, so ineffectual.

01:57:20.000 Thank you, I'm gonna do what you tell me.

01:57:23.000 Thank you, I'm gonna do what you tell me.

01:57:25.000 No, F you, you better do what they tell you.

01:57:27.000 That's way worse, you're right.

01:57:28.000 I don't know, I'd like to play one.

01:57:33.000 Let's see, Eric Miller, if all cops are bad, then all BLM are rioters. 0.59

01:57:36.000 I support neither, but if BLM, the organization, doesn't want violence, then they have the money to hire private security to control the marchers, but they don't.

01:57:43.000 Did you hear the squad hired a bunch of private security?

01:57:44.000 Yes.

01:57:46.000 I love it.

01:57:46.000 Shout out to Henry Rogers, Daily Caller.

01:57:48.000 He actually put out an exclusive report with, like, going through all the expenses of the private security, so.

01:57:53.000 So we got a super chat from Sword and Scale.

01:57:55.000 Many of you may be familiar.

01:57:56.000 Sword and Scale is a really popular, I think, was it a true crime podcast?

01:58:00.000 Yes, true crime.

01:58:01.000 How bad do you think it will get this week?

01:58:03.000 How many cities burned?

01:58:04.000 How many businesses destroyed?

01:58:05.000 How many lives lost?

01:58:06.000 Thank you for everything you do, Tim.

01:58:07.000 Cheers.

01:58:09.000 I don't want to think about it.

01:58:10.000 I don't know, man.

01:58:10.000 Like I think I mentioned already in the show, I think no matter what happens, we're going to see some chaos erupt.

01:58:16.000 I don't see it reaching the magnitude that it did, but I think we're going to see some things go down this week.

01:58:23.000 I don't want to think about it.

01:58:24.000 I don't know, man. I kind of think it'll be worse.

01:58:26.000 I don't know.

01:58:28.000 Yeah.

01:58:30.000 What's up?

01:58:30.000 I don't want to think about that.

01:58:32.000 Word.

01:58:32.000 Honestly.

01:58:32.000 Bruce is like, let me tune out.

01:58:33.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 Rusty Quarters says, Hey Tim and Ian, what are your favorite commanders for Magic the Gathering?

01:58:39.000 Urza.

01:58:39.000 Oh, sorry to interrupt.

01:58:41.000 I'm convinced you can use someone's favorite like a political compass.

01:58:43.000 For instance, everyone who chooses Kalia is Hitler. 0.70

01:58:49.000 Keep it up, by the way.

01:58:51.000 Oh, my favorite commander is not Urza.

01:58:55.000 I know.

01:58:56.000 Urza's OP.

01:58:57.000 I know.

01:58:57.000 I know, right, Urza?

01:58:58.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:58:58.000 It's the worst. 1.00

01:58:59.000 It's just too dumb. 1.00

01:59:00.000 It's too dumb. 1.00

01:59:00.000 I get it. 1.00

01:59:00.000 You have 50 mana on turn 4. 1.00

01:59:02.000 It's so busted.

01:59:03.000 I had to take like five cards out of the deck because it was too powerful.

01:59:05.000 My favorite Narset.

01:59:07.000 Yeah, you know all about it.

01:59:08.000 Totally.

01:59:09.000 Who?

01:59:09.000 Narset?

01:59:10.000 The OG Narset.

01:59:12.000 OG Narset.

01:59:12.000 That was the one you had when I met you.

01:59:14.000 The deck I built is pure, pure global chaos and control.

01:59:17.000 That's really fun.

01:59:18.000 That deck is fun to play against.

01:59:19.000 The games end up lasting four hours and everyone's just confused as to what the rules are.

01:59:22.000 Tim goes, he just starts laughing and he's like, ah, he doesn't even care if he wins.

01:59:25.000 He's just like throwing chaos on the board.

01:59:27.000 He's like, I lose.

01:59:28.000 Yeah, sometimes.

01:59:29.000 It's really funny.

01:59:30.000 In space.

01:59:30.000 It's like a group of chaos, all targets are random.

01:59:31.000 It's really funny.

01:59:32.000 And so all of a sudden everyone's plans are just thrown to the wind and I'm sitting there laughing.

01:59:36.000 And then eventually everyone's like, we have to stop Tim.

01:59:38.000 The way I view it is kind of like, everyone's in quicksand trying to get to me to stop me from making the quicksand.

01:59:44.000 In space.

01:59:45.000 So it's like three dimensional.

01:59:46.000 It's all around you.

01:59:47.000 Remember what we were talking about earlier about like everybody being LARPers?

01:59:50.000 Like, that's what you guys are?

01:59:52.000 Ring a bell!

01:59:54.000 But we don't really play all that much anymore, to be honest.

01:59:57.000 Not lately, but I would like to.

01:59:58.000 We did recently have an idea for a board game.

02:00:00.000 Maybe it exists, but the idea is that it's... The game would be a...

02:00:07.000 an orbital space station doing experiments with antimatter explodes or the reactor detonates

02:00:14.000 creating and then freezing creating a rift where there's two dimensions like overlaid on each other

02:00:20.000 and they can you can sort of see both that's fun and so the board game would actually be three

02:00:24.000 dimensional with magnets where each character you know like clue there's like you know mr plumb or

02:00:31.000 whatever professor plumb There would actually be two John Smiths, two Jane Does, but there's like Universe A and Universe B. And then certain universes have certain components, so like, that was kind of a general idea we had for a board game we wanted to make.

02:00:43.000 We can't come into contact because they'll annihilate each other, like the antiparticle. 0.65

02:00:47.000 Yeah, like two people, two of the same characters can't be in the same place at the same time.

02:00:53.000 But then, like, an electrical conduit will be shifted into Universe A, and then to open a door, Universe A has to hit the switch to open the door in Universe B. So it would be a game where there would be, like, components that move around.

02:01:03.000 So basically, like, what we were talking about, you guys being LARPing nerds earlier?

02:01:06.000 It gets LARPier, yeah.

02:01:08.000 Oh yeah, it gets crazier.

02:01:09.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely.

02:01:12.000 Let's see.

02:01:14.000 Lord of Nazgoth says, Tim, the problem in this country is folks like your buddy Ian.

02:01:20.000 They are all too happy to lose themselves in a web of moral relativism and conspiracy.

02:01:26.000 I'm not happy about it, but the philosophy is dangerous, dark, and must be done.

02:01:31.000 dingus malingas says tim i live in minneapolis our mayoral and city council election is coming november both the state ag and hennepin county attorney elections were in 18 and up again in 22 voters may have also thought orange man bad made people freak out more You had a president who was like, the riots have to stop!

02:01:49.000 And you had a president who was like, my staff, come on, man, they're donating to this!

02:01:52.000 And Kamala Harris was like, give me money to get the rioters out! 1.00

02:01:56.000 And people were like, I'm gonna vote for the lady who wants the rioters to be out of jail. 0.97

02:02:00.000 Sorry, man.

02:02:00.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:02:01.000 But I hear you on the mayoral stuff.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:02:05.000 We'll see, we'll, you know.

02:02:06.000 Dude, in Minneapolis, AG, Keith Ellison's very left wing.

02:02:09.000 He's like an Antifa sympathizer.

02:02:10.000 Oh, Keith Ellison?

02:02:11.000 No.

02:02:11.000 Yeah, so if you voted Keith Ellison in, you gotta deal with that because he's an Antifa sympathizer.

02:02:17.000 Alright, Joe Sullivan says, Floyd case is a reasonable doubt versus doubt issue.

02:02:21.000 Just because there is doubt doesn't necessarily mean it's reasonable.

02:02:23.000 Let's face the truth.

02:02:24.000 They will come for Chauvin in the jails or the street.

02:02:27.000 Verdict is irrelevant for him, just like Floyd.

02:02:29.000 You ain't wrong, brother.

02:02:30.000 I don't think anyone's, yeah, arguing with that.

02:02:33.000 I don't think you're wrong, brother.

02:02:34.000 Yeah, man.

02:02:34.000 These superchats is really fired tonight.

02:02:36.000 Yeah.

02:02:36.000 Guys is on point.

02:02:37.000 Yeah.

02:02:39.000 Dan9S, not asking for myself, but at some point, would you consider internships?

02:02:43.000 You want people who already know how to do stuff, but they have to learn somewhere.

02:02:47.000 Also, I'd rather future journalists learn from you than from the current college system.

02:02:51.000 We are already considering internships.

02:02:53.000 That's great.

02:02:54.000 That's dope. 0.93

02:02:54.000 Yeah, but I won't take interns that actually do core functions. 0.93

02:02:57.000 I'm not about that.

02:02:58.000 I think anybody who's going to be doing kind of like a menial task is going to be getting paid.

02:03:03.000 Alright, if you're an intern and you don't want to do a menial task and not get paid for it, Richie at DailyCaller.com.

02:03:10.000 Email me.

02:03:11.000 You'll learn everything, but you'll get a sandwich a week.

02:03:14.000 And school credit.

02:03:15.000 So I'm thinking we might have a couple interns whose job is to literally just hang out And like a literal internship.

02:03:22.000 Like actually hang out, learn, see how the business operates.

02:03:26.000 Internships are typically like minimum wage jobs where they just don't pay you.

02:03:28.000 They're like, we want you to do stuff and we're not going to pay you.

02:03:31.000 I don't want to do that.

02:03:32.000 Now we can have some interns. 1.00

02:03:32.000 You've got to skate. 1.00

02:03:33.000 You've got to play music.

02:03:34.000 You've got to hang out.

02:03:34.000 Yeah, my internship was a little bit different.

02:03:36.000 My internship is going to be way worse.

02:03:38.000 Ask Jorge about what the internship entails.

02:03:41.000 I need my socks cleaned.

02:03:42.000 I will say this though, for those who are looking for internships where they might be in high school or college and are looking into journalism, I actually watched Tim Pool back in Vice.

02:03:51.000 That's actually, when I was in high school, I watched Tim Pool back in Vice.

02:03:53.000 I actually wouldn't even be on the front line.

02:03:55.000 And then you DM'd me and I gave you a job for one sandwich a week.

02:03:58.000 You just have to get tear gassed every week.

02:04:01.000 No, no, no.

02:04:02.000 I need two tacos for the first week.

02:04:05.000 I don't know if you're allowed to do that, but I guess you are because you're Mexican. 1.00

02:04:09.000 If I feel no right, I don't get paid.

02:04:13.000 Are we allowed to laugh at that?

02:04:14.000 Yes, we are.

02:04:15.000 No, we have to be stone-faced and only you can laugh.

02:04:18.000 Only Jorge can laugh at it.

02:04:22.000 No comment.

02:04:25.000 Never a summer, 160 said, here's five dollars, get Ian a Snickers.

02:04:29.000 Matt Volker says, that's called being angry, Ian.

02:04:32.000 Somebody get this man a Snickers. 0.99

02:04:33.000 I never get more mad than when I'm fat.

02:04:35.000 Snickers are five bucks now?

02:04:37.000 You were lit dude, bro, I'm I go fasting.

02:04:42.000 I'm just talking about what we need to bring punk rock to the main we need to confront I gotta read this.

02:04:50.000 Okay J Mill says the guest with the point-break shirt on looks like an attempt to create an intelligent version of Matthew McConaughey's character from dazed and confused.

02:04:58.000 Yes All right Yes!

02:05:02.000 Richie! 0.99

02:05:02.000 These superchats are fucking great. 0.99

02:05:04.000 You got a joint? 0.99

02:05:06.000 What have you done?

02:05:08.000 You were right.

02:05:10.000 All right.

02:05:10.000 Justin says, Tim and Ian, any interest in a maker community as part of Timcast?

02:05:14.000 Allow makers to collab on projects with like-minded people.

02:05:17.000 Oh, no echo chamber.

02:05:18.000 I do woodworking, coding, and I'm a cloud engineer.

02:05:21.000 I want community to make things with y'all.

02:05:23.000 Should we build a building for a hackerspace?

02:05:24.000 Yeah, we do need a building off-site.

02:05:26.000 That's what we would need.

02:05:27.000 And then you'd have to be part of the vlog.

02:05:29.000 We could expand the venue.

02:05:31.000 The grind bar.

02:05:33.000 I want another property.

02:05:35.000 Just grind all the way to the space that people can commute to and from.

02:05:38.000 Yeah, maybe we get a commercial building for R&D.

02:05:40.000 Or build something.

02:05:43.000 We need a piece of property.

02:05:44.000 You're gonna be like Tony Stark and you just start making... Maybe.

02:05:48.000 You can go underground.

02:05:49.000 In a garage.

02:05:50.000 There's a lot more people with a lot more money who are doing fun stuff like jetpacks.

02:05:54.000 It could be like the Tony Stark of airsoft.

02:05:55.000 It's really about funding.

02:05:57.000 That was all Luke's thing.

02:05:58.000 Luke was the one who wanted to play airsoft.

02:05:59.000 We have a lot of people that want to come and a lot of potential space to get, but we need the funding.

02:06:05.000 I mean, so we don't, I mean, it would help.

02:06:09.000 So sign up at TimCast.com.

02:06:11.000 Graphene.

02:06:12.000 I say funding isn't the issue because I'm not going to let investors come in and derail anything.

02:06:16.000 No, direct funding to TimCast.com is the best thing you can do is help fund the organization grassroots.

02:06:23.000 And yeah, we should do a makerspace.

02:06:26.000 4 million dollar homes.

02:06:27.000 We could build Graphene.

02:06:28.000 Bro, we got a production facility.

02:06:30.000 We're going to be hiring news editors and writers.

02:06:33.000 I've been saying over and over again, I'm not going to be buying infinity pools or doing dumb things.

02:06:38.000 We're going to be making content, building culture, and funding TV shows and movies.

02:06:43.000 You look at this woke movie system and comics and games.

02:06:47.000 Nah, we're just going to fund things we like.

02:06:49.000 Here's what I say.

02:06:50.000 You want to make a woke movie?

02:06:52.000 By all means.

02:06:52.000 I got no beef.

02:06:53.000 You make a product.

02:06:54.000 You do your thing.

02:06:55.000 I don't like it.

02:06:55.000 I'm not going to buy it.

02:06:56.000 Hey, I know.

02:06:57.000 I'll make my own movie that I do like.

02:06:59.000 And then if people like that, they can buy it.

02:07:01.000 So I'll tell you this, if I had a choice, like people sign up for TimCast.com and money comes in, if I had a choice between buying an infinity pool or buying the labor that creates awesome articles, I would rather give someone a job.

02:07:12.000 And by the way, the cost for that labor in order to produce that video or that article is cheaper now than it ever has been previously in human history.

02:07:21.000 I mean, this is like the printing press 2.0.

02:07:24.000 People don't realize, oh, our speech is getting censored, all this stuff.

02:07:27.000 It's still the internet.

02:07:28.000 You can still create your own platform.

02:07:31.000 I would rather hire someone to go report on the ground like you guys do, than own an infinity pool or something like that.

02:07:38.000 Because, I'll tell you this, you're at a party, everyone's drinking, everyone's bragging, what's better, look at my pool or look at this award winning journalism that's changing the world?

02:07:48.000 No, we don't get no awards.

02:07:50.000 Let me tell you about that.

02:07:51.000 Please convince Tim to get the pool.

02:07:55.000 Please, you guys.

02:07:56.000 Start super chatting him.

02:07:57.000 Tell him to get a pool.

02:07:58.000 Ian's been saying we need a hot tub.

02:07:59.000 I think if we can soak in the water, it will make us more creative and it will give us exercise, healthy brain.

02:08:07.000 And I want to point out, Richie brought up graphene.

02:08:09.000 I did.

02:08:10.000 And he's right about that.

02:08:11.000 I like the way Ian thinks, man.

02:08:13.000 Thank you.

02:08:15.000 Alright, let's see.

02:08:16.000 I want to go swimming in the pool, in the infinity pool.

02:08:19.000 Yes!

02:08:20.000 I want to go swimming in Tim Pool's infinity pool.

02:08:23.000 But I have to clean it first.

02:08:24.000 I want to participate, but I don't want to get cancelled.

02:08:27.000 Just a couple more Super Chats.

02:08:30.000 Kathy Mac says, how are we to survive as a country with no family values, sense of community, or a higher power, life after death?

02:08:36.000 We are now a country that only values and encourages self-interest.

02:08:39.000 We may be doomed by this path.

02:08:41.000 I agree.

02:08:41.000 This is what I'm trying to talk about.

02:08:42.000 No, it's true.

02:08:43.000 Kathy, I'm trying, I'm trying.

02:08:44.000 It's not even about, necessarily, in my opinion, a belief in a higher power.

02:08:48.000 It's a belief in each other.

02:08:49.000 Do we care about our community to where when we hear that China is attacking us, we need to defend ourselves?

02:08:54.000 No!

02:08:55.000 The people in this country are split into political sectarianism.

02:08:58.000 Part of what bothered me about Trump, and I don't hate him, but is that he always, he tended to talk about being the best and being the one and like, I'm the best, I'm the best.

02:09:06.000 And I find that a team and supporting your friends is like so key.

02:09:09.000 If you can be part of a community where you, the people around you become better and stronger.

02:09:14.000 I don't think that's the problem though.

02:09:15.000 I feel like Trump was actually more like, we are the best, like, This country is the best.

02:09:20.000 We're the alphas.

02:09:21.000 I don't know.

02:09:21.000 I think the problem is, is it's like digital versus reality, which is like the, you know, the younger you are right now, the more important your digital identity is, right?

02:09:30.000 Like as compared to your actual identity.

02:09:33.000 So whether or not you're a team player or you're me or you're awesome here, it's, it's a matter of whether or not you're awesome.

02:09:38.000 Like, are you awesome in real life, IRL, or are you awesome on the internet?

02:09:43.000 And like, what matters more now is that you're awesome on the internet.

02:09:46.000 So it's like, I don't know.

02:09:47.000 I coach these kids and they're all they, they're all trying to like stay on their phones and like maintain all these digital relationships.

02:09:54.000 And we're sitting at the table.

02:09:54.000 I'm like, dude, you're with all the hockey boys.

02:09:57.000 Like, why aren't we chilling right now?

02:09:59.000 Why is everybody snapchatting a corner of one of their eyes to six different curls?

02:10:03.000 You coach hockey?

02:10:06.000 Yeah.

02:10:06.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:10:07.000 Yeah.

02:10:08.000 Hockey boys.

02:10:08.000 Yeah.

02:10:08.000 So stuff like that.

02:10:09.000 Shout out to the hockey boys.

02:10:11.000 All right, let's see.

02:10:12.000 That's awesome.

02:10:15.000 Machizmojo.

02:10:17.000 Mac-is-mojo.

02:10:18.000 Mac-is-mojo.

02:10:19.000 Tim, you need to buy an infinity pool hot tub for the chickens.

02:10:23.000 Maybe we do build a little, I think.

02:10:25.000 Oh, a mini.

02:10:25.000 A little tiny.

02:10:26.000 They would love that.

02:10:27.000 Tim, I think he means chickens, but for a code word for something else, but for us.

02:10:32.000 I don't think the chickens would like that, Doug.

02:10:34.000 They, they, they, so they're babies and they're learning how to do dirt baths.

02:10:38.000 And it's the funniest thing ever cause they don't know what they're doing.

02:10:41.000 And they're trying, you know, you don't do no dirt baths.

02:10:44.000 The chickens dig little dirt holes and then they start throwing dirt over themselves

02:10:47.000 and, you know, wiggle around.

02:10:49.000 But they're like, they're, they're still really young.

02:10:51.000 So they're doing it wrong.

02:10:52.000 And they're just like laying and like flopping around.

02:10:54.000 I thought a dirt bath is like when Sal, you know, puts a dirt nap.

02:10:59.000 I used to think the infinity pool was a pool with a waterfall that constantly went for infinity that never stopped.

02:11:05.000 But then I looked it up and I saw it was when it goes off to the horizon and you can't tell where it ends.

02:11:10.000 Could we get Ian an infinity dirt bath instead of this?

02:11:15.000 Yeah, I will.

02:11:15.000 A 50-gallon bin full of dirt.

02:11:17.000 There you go, you communist. 0.99

02:11:19.000 You get a dirt bath. 1.00

02:11:20.000 Last one, last one.

02:11:21.000 We got Sword and Scale.

02:11:21.000 He says, Be careful, Tim.

02:11:22.000 We all know what happened to every headquarters Tony Stark ever made.

02:11:25.000 Investing in America right now is dangerous.

02:11:27.000 Maybe just buy more doge.

02:11:29.000 Now, I'm investing in fun stuff that's inspirational.

02:11:34.000 I want people to, you know, feel like they can accomplish things and judge people on the content of their character, the color of their skin, you know what I mean?

02:11:41.000 What happened at Tony Stark's headquarters?

02:11:43.000 They all blow up.

02:11:44.000 Like, supervillains?

02:11:45.000 Well, like, they blow up.

02:11:46.000 Yeah, bad guys blow them up.

02:11:47.000 No, but that's important, like, what you're building is actually, it's completely different from, like, any other kind of commodity that you're providing, which is, like, it's, the proof is only in the pudding of, like, what you put out on the internet in video, you know, or on, in print.

02:12:01.000 It's not, like, quantifiable, like, you built this building, but it's important.

02:12:04.000 You know what's weird to me?

02:12:05.000 You know what's weird to me is there's so many people who are very rich off of doing commentary, and they, they just, like, their accomplishment is the fact that they're rich.

02:12:12.000 Yeah, they just had their show.

02:12:13.000 And I'm like, why don't you guys, your millionaires, you know, like hire a bunch of people to make more of this?

02:12:19.000 Plus it's so, the dollar per minute of video now is so cheap that the network that you can build with just a little something that...

02:12:28.000 Even a semblance of an attempt to be independent now sets you aside from the rest of them.

02:12:33.000 I think the reason they don't is because it's challenging to build a team.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, quality control.

02:12:38.000 And personalities, and managing personalities. 0.75

02:12:40.000 That's for damn sure.

02:12:41.000 It requires a lot of listening. 0.95

02:12:43.000 Yeah, man.

02:12:44.000 Well, that being said, a lot of listening is required over at TimCast.com because an exclusive segment is coming up for our members only in just a little bit.

02:12:53.000 So make sure you go to TimCast.com, become a member, smash the like button on this video, subscribe.

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02:13:00.000 It's been fantastic.

02:13:01.000 This show is live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m., so we're, of course, gonna be back tomorrow.

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02:13:11.000 It's been an amazing ride.

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02:13:20.000 I got to make the channel I guess but there's a video and you can see what the house looks like We kind of give a tour of everything and that is in the community tab of this is a link to it's called cast castle We make we may change the name.

02:13:30.000 I don't know but you guys right squad.

02:13:32.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:13:34.000 Richie?

02:13:34.000 I just want to give a shout out to the Daily Caller vid squad, who everybody's working hard.

02:13:39.000 And my social at Richie McInnes, two I's, two N's, and two S's on McInnes.

02:13:43.000 That's how the Irish spell it when they're good and drunk off whiskey. 1.00

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02:13:55.000 We have all, you know, updates, long-form content.

02:13:57.000 For live updates on like on the ground, real-time, Ventura Report, you know, just want to shout out all the hard-working journalists out there covering the Civil Unrest, the Daily Caller VidSquad, but also A big shout out to Tim Poole because it's a big thing when journalists like us who are on the ground, who are working hard to get this info out.

02:14:15.000 It's great when Tim uses this platform to give us a platform to get this information out to more people.

02:14:20.000 I think that doesn't happen enough in journalism.

02:14:22.000 So, shout out to Mr. Tim Poole.

02:14:24.000 100%.

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02:14:40.000 And you, chilling right there, listening right now, thank you.

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02:14:50.000 Okay, all right, Jorge.

02:14:51.000 Thank you.

02:14:52.000 Enough accents.

02:14:53.000 I was just gonna say I really appreciate what we're doing here.

02:14:55.000 I'm so excited that we broke a million.

02:14:57.000 That was something that I wanted for Christmas.

02:14:59.000 We were a little bit late.

02:15:00.000 No, I'm just kidding.

02:15:01.000 I'm very, very happy that we reached the point that we have a million subscribers.

02:15:04.000 I'm stoked for what we're doing here.

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