Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Kamala Harris Compares Jan 6th To Pearl Harbor And 9-11 w-Brandon Tatum

00:00:02.000 Kamala Harris has compared today, January 6th, or I should say the anniversary of the Capitol riots, to Pearl Harbor on September 11th.

00:00:11.000 And, Siraj, where are you at?

00:00:14.000 You know, if we ever needed the list, we need it now.

00:00:16.000 Well, actually, no, she wasn't on her phone when she posted it.

00:00:18.000 She was actually speaking on TV.

00:00:20.000 But the tweets went out from all the news organizations of her saying it.

00:00:23.000 And if anybody deserves to not be speaking publicly for a little while, it would be her after that statement.

00:00:29.000 You need only look at the pictures of Pearl Harbor 9-11 and January 6 to know that they've lost the plot.

00:00:36.000 They've absolutely lost it.

00:00:37.000 But I tell you, you know, I don't know if they actually believe their own BS, if they're ingesting their own refuse.

00:00:46.000 But I do think at least some of them, many of them, at least the people on the ground, the grassroots of the Democrat voter base, they really believe this stuff.

00:00:54.000 Many of them are just tribalist and they're angry and they want to hate, but a lot of people genuinely believe that January 6th was as bad as 9-11.

00:01:01.000 The funny thing, though, is that Trump's approval versus Biden's approval right now, if there was an election held today, Trump would win.

00:01:08.000 Which means more Americans probably don't believe that narrative, or if the narrative is believed, they prefer insurrection and a military coup over Joe Biden.

00:01:18.000 So how about we just settle for, yeah, no, no one believes it.

00:01:22.000 I mean, some people do, but most people don't.

00:01:24.000 And you're full of it.

00:01:26.000 This is where we're headed.

00:01:27.000 Politico has actually published an article saying, we are in a new civil war.

00:01:31.000 Oh, you got me to say it.

00:01:32.000 Everybody take a drink.

00:01:33.000 Tim Pool said civil war.

00:01:34.000 Here we go.

00:01:35.000 But when mainstream publications have gone from, are we in it?

00:01:38.000 To, we are in it.

00:01:40.000 We should start asking what that means.

00:01:42.000 What that means for us.

00:01:43.000 What it means for you.

00:01:44.000 And is there a way to bring everybody together?

00:01:46.000 I don't know.

00:01:46.000 I really don't.

00:01:48.000 We've got to talk about Australia.

00:01:50.000 In the Northern Territories, if you're unvaccinated, you can't leave your home unless you're getting food or medical treatment or providing medical treatment.

00:01:56.000 So it means you can't leave your home for work anymore.

00:01:58.000 It's getting more and more severe.

00:02:00.000 And they have detained the number one tennis player over highly dubious reasons, saying that his medical exemption, they're rejecting it after letting him come.

00:02:10.000 Now he's in a refugee detention center.

00:02:13.000 This looks like a power flex, so we'll get into all that stuff.

00:02:15.000 Joining us today, Brandon Tatum.

00:02:17.000 How's it going, man?

00:02:18.000 What's up, what's up, what's up?

00:02:19.000 How you doing?

00:02:20.000 Pretty good.

00:02:20.000 You want to introduce yourself for those who don't know you?

00:02:22.000 Oh yeah.

00:02:22.000 Brandon Tatum, former police officer.

00:02:24.000 I have a YouTube channel called The Officer Tatum.

00:02:29.000 1.7 million subscribers on that YouTube channel.

00:02:31.000 Bigger than us.

00:02:32.000 Y'all are more powerful than me.

00:02:34.000 I'm trying to get on your level, man.

00:02:36.000 So I go around the country.

00:02:37.000 I speak.

00:02:38.000 I do motivational speaking.

00:02:39.000 I do political commentary.

00:02:42.000 So I do a lot of stuff like that.

00:02:43.000 Right on, man.

00:02:44.000 Thanks for coming.

00:02:44.000 This will be a blast.

00:02:46.000 My pleasure.

00:02:46.000 Before we begin, I definitely want to shout out Habibi Siraj.

00:02:49.000 He's been working extremely hard today.

00:02:51.000 It's like it's a Super Bowl, so his Twitter account is absolutely on fire today.

00:02:57.000 And also, a couple days ago on this show, I had this idea about an alien psy-op saying that in 2024, I'm going to vote for Bebop.

00:03:06.000 Beborp.

00:03:06.000 What is it?

00:03:07.000 Beep Borp. So the Beep Borp 2024 election shirt is coming in and it has just come in and it also has the tagline

00:03:16.000 saying bring on the next alien psyop already and if you want to support Beep Borp in 2024 you can by going to thebestpoliticalshirts.com

00:03:26.000 and support this future candidate.

00:03:28.000 I love how it actually says BeatBorp on your shirt and you forgot the name of the alien you made up.

00:03:33.000 It happens sometimes, you know, you're in this creative flow.

00:03:36.000 We have no scripts here.

00:03:37.000 So yeah, BeatBorp 2024.

00:03:39.000 That's who I'm voting for.

00:03:40.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:41.000 This should be a great conversation.

00:03:42.000 You need like an Alex Jones reference because, you know, he went on his show and he was screaming that an alien intelligence has taken over and is controlling all of this.

00:03:49.000 An AI system, probably, which he was referring to, which we also talked about, which he could not be wrong here.

00:03:55.000 That's also another issue, which is worth considering.

00:03:57.000 This is something that Ian gets into a lot, too, especially when it comes to quantum physics and energy and entities.

00:04:03.000 Go on, Ian, take it from here.

00:04:04.000 I think for sure there's a concerted effort to put people's collective mind state on a blockchain and create like a

00:04:10.000 mega mind that's going to be The high thing tracked is the idea but maybe we could build

00:04:14.000 one that's untracked and use that as like the good guys tech

00:04:16.000 Hey, I did a little bit of research 2400 people died at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese Empire

00:04:22.000 bombed it almost 3,000 people died on 9-11 when the three buildings

00:04:27.000 came down and And how many people died a year ago on January 6th?

00:04:31.000 Well, yes, but I think a couple of them, one was like someone fell.

00:04:35.000 One person had a heart attack.

00:04:36.000 How many bombs were dropped a year ago?

00:04:39.000 And one Trump supporter was killed by a police officer.

00:04:41.000 Someone made a meme where it was like, you know, Wikipedia, they'll do a war and it'll say like outcome, like factions, casualties.

00:04:50.000 And they made one for January 6th where it was like, I'm here in the corner pushing buttons as I do.

00:04:57.000 I'm delighted to be back.

00:04:58.000 Love having Brandon on.

00:04:59.000 They should do like a Baz battles where they do those animated battle scenes of it where it shows like the people

00:05:04.000 coming up and the flanking and all that. 0.97

00:05:06.000 It's all bull crap. 0.99

00:05:08.000 That's good. We'll need you to bring up those numbers again when we get into it. 0.99

00:05:11.000 Thanks man.

00:05:12.000 We also got Lydia hanging out.

00:05:13.000 I'm here in the corner pushing buttons as I do. I'm delighted to be back. Love having Brandon on. It's going to

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00:06:22.000 Kamala Harris compares January 6th Capitol Riot to September 11th and Pearl Harbor.

00:06:29.000 Quote, certain dates echo throughout history, Harris said, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault.

00:06:41.000 Dates that occupy not only a place in our calendar, but a place in our collective memory.

00:06:46.000 December 7th, 1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021.

00:06:47.000 September 11th, 2001 and January 6th, 2021.

00:06:52.000 Wow. 1.00

00:06:53.000 She is the dumbest person on planet earth. 1.00

00:06:56.000 This is what happens when you sleep your way to the top and you don't have merit behind your name or you don't have a legitimate reputation. 1.00

00:07:03.000 There's nobody on planet earth with any sense that would compare January 6th to Pearl Harbor or 9-11.

00:07:10.000 I mean because you know we're in a generation that we lived through 9-11 and and it was Mortifying man people were getting killed jumping out of buildings.

00:07:20.000 It was literally an attack on our building 7 then just fell down Yeah, what was it?

00:07:25.000 What was it like 10 hours later, right?

00:07:27.000 It was it was let me let me just tell you but it did I'm not saying anything about why it did I'm just saying 9-11 was so crazy I thought about this when she said this I was like I'm sitting there I know everyone's laughing everyone's mocking her saying it was a stupid thing to say and then actually just was thinking back to like what happened on 9-11 and I'm like four planes are hijacked one of them crashes into field let's roll you know they slam into these buildings there's shrapnel and debris flying everywhere the buildings collapse the Pentagon gets hit

00:07:57.000 First responders rush in there and firefighters are dying.

00:08:00.000 The EPA was right, it said the air was safe.

00:08:02.000 Yep, they said it was safe to breathe, go back to work, there's no problems down here.

00:08:06.000 And now people have, what do they call it?

00:08:08.000 They call it 9-11 lung or something like that?

00:08:09.000 Well, they have mesothelioma, they have, there's a bunch of asbestos.

00:08:15.000 There's a word they associate with the people who are down there doing the rescue missions had for decades lung problems from the air they were breathing.

00:08:23.000 I was there, dude.

00:08:24.000 I was there in the early days when they didn't have the guidelines.

00:08:27.000 Anyone could walk in there and breathe it.

00:08:28.000 But not only did these buildings then collapse, but 9-11 was so bad that I think it was around, what, 10 hours later, another building, World Trade Center 7, just falls straight down.

00:08:39.000 That's how crazy—three buildings fell that day.

00:08:41.000 And Kamala Harris is like, they broke windows and waved American flags. 0.99

00:08:47.000 And those three buildings all had insurance policies on them by Larry Silverstein, but that's another subject.

00:08:52.000 I blame Mayor Willie Brown for all of this for a number of reasons, but also he's connected to 9-11, which I wanted to quickly talk about since he was also officially warned.

00:09:02.000 He had a flight on 9-11, but he said someone gave him a warning and he canceled his flight on the morning of 9-11.

00:09:07.000 So yep, Mayor Willie Brown.

00:09:08.000 Look that up.

00:09:09.000 The mayor of San Francisco.

00:09:11.000 I think it was the San Francisco Chronicle that reported on this, but he had a flight on that day, didn't take it, and he's also the one that helped Kamala Harris get her start in politics.

00:09:19.000 Oh yeah, look at this.

00:09:20.000 Willie Brown.

00:09:21.000 Look at this.

00:09:21.000 This is from the San Francisco Gate.

00:09:23.000 Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travels from September 12, 2001.

00:09:28.000 This is NewsGuard certified.

00:09:29.000 Exactly.

00:09:30.000 Look at this.

00:09:30.000 I don't make up facts, Tim.

00:09:32.000 I got my sources.

00:09:33.000 I got my documents.

00:09:34.000 I got all my papers and my notes right here.

00:09:37.000 Brandon.

00:09:37.000 I don't play around.

00:09:38.000 A couple weeks ago, Luke is doing one of his signature rants and he mentions Bill Gates with his birth control microchips.

00:09:44.000 And then I'm just like, Luke, Luke, no, no, stop, stop.

00:09:47.000 And Luke's like, it's real.

00:09:48.000 Look, I Google it right here and Bill Gates funded birth control microchips.

00:09:53.000 It's a real thing.

00:09:53.000 This is the new Alex Jones right here.

00:09:55.000 I don't know about that.

00:09:57.000 There's a lot of stuff I have to stop myself from saying.

00:09:58.000 All right.

00:09:59.000 All right.

00:09:59.000 Well, hold on.

00:09:59.000 Hold on.

00:10:00.000 I want to bring this up.

00:10:02.000 It's got a 100 out of 100 on NewsGuard, and they reported September 12, 2001, Willie Brown got a low-key early warning about air travel.

00:10:10.000 Quote, it was not an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time and they always alert me

00:10:14.000 when I ought to be careful.

00:10:15.000 Exactly where the call came from is a bit of a mystery. The mayor would say only that it came from my security people

00:10:20.000 at the airport.

00:10:21.000 It's interesting. I wonder...

00:10:22.000 Telling them not to fly on 9-11. That's a big deal right there.

00:10:25.000 That's a person also connected to Kamala Harris.

00:10:27.000 But I've heard recently that Kamala Harris and Mayor Willie Brown are not on talking...

00:10:32.000 What's the phrase here?

00:10:34.000 They're not on speaking terms.

00:10:37.000 But obviously Kamala Harris has risen to power and she's using it to spread fear and to divide and conquer this nation in so many disingenuous ways. 1.00

00:10:46.000 It's absolutely horrifying to see this kind of comparison made to some of the most tragic life loss that happened domestically in the United States. 0.74

00:10:54.000 It's disgusting.

00:10:55.000 I want to do the opposite of what, you know, the Democrat establishment and the media do.

00:11:01.000 And actually, Lydia messaged me saying, Freedom Day.

00:11:04.000 Yes.

00:11:04.000 And I was like, it's a good idea.

00:11:05.000 So here's what I tweeted.

00:11:06.000 Never forget.

00:11:07.000 January 6, also known as Freedom Day, will forever be the day we remember the 100-day siege on the U.S.

00:11:14.000 From the White House to federal courthouses to small-town America, dozens lost their lives to the Democrat-supported carnage.

00:11:21.000 This was the George Floyd riots.

00:11:23.000 The White House was besieged.

00:11:24.000 They set a guard building on fire.

00:11:26.000 They set the church on fire.

00:11:28.000 It was one of the most intense assaults on the White House we've seen since 1812.

00:11:34.000 Yossi Gestetner with that tweet, he says way worse than what happened on January 6th.

00:11:39.000 We had small-town America ransacked, buildings smashed up.

00:11:43.000 We need to talk about that.

00:11:47.000 They were not only in DC over the summer, they were all over the country.

00:11:51.000 So one of the issues I have with the culture war is that the right component, whatever you want to call it, just follows the lead in the news cycle of the New York Times and CNN.

00:12:00.000 Quick side note here.

00:12:02.000 Today is also the National Bean Day, according to Google.

00:12:05.000 But also, Kamala Harris, when those larger protests were going on, she was bailing people out that were committing crimes against innocent civilians. 0.58

00:12:13.000 There was dozens of people that were killed during these riots, and we can't talk about it.

00:12:18.000 Sorry, I'm talking too much.

00:12:19.000 No, I agree with you a thousand percent.

00:12:21.000 This is out of control that we're in this position in our country where we just completely avoid the fact that people were burning down buildings and killing people.

00:12:29.000 and terrorizing it is the it is this the definition of domestic terrorism is what BLM people that represent BLM or claim to represent BLM were doing throughout the entire summer over nothing At least I can say people that may have an argument on January 6th, they have a certain argument that they have about the election.

00:12:52.000 They thought that they were going to stop a faulty election from going through.

00:12:56.000 I'm not saying I take that position necessarily, but that's what they were attempting to do.

00:13:02.000 BLM, a black man gets shot justifiably by police, Breonna Taylor was never, she wasn't sleeping in the bed.

00:13:10.000 They completely create these entire lives and burn down communities.

00:13:15.000 Hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars worth of damage.

00:13:18.000 People were dying, getting hurt, afraid.

00:13:20.000 I think it was over 2 billion.

00:13:21.000 Yeah, around the country, it could probably easily have been over 2 billion.

00:13:24.000 And none of these things get replaced.

00:13:26.000 People can't, I mean, the livelihood did not come back.

00:13:28.000 These people, some people have been killed.

00:13:30.000 Their lives are not going to be replaced.

00:13:32.000 And people are arguing about individuals who went into the Capitol building.

00:13:37.000 Some of them were let in.

00:13:38.000 Some of them were taking selfies.

00:13:40.000 I just saw a video that was posted, I think I shared it on one of my social media platforms, of the guy that had the horns or whatever.

00:13:46.000 He's going in there.

00:13:46.000 It's like three dudes in there.

00:13:48.000 The police is asking, hey, is everybody okay?

00:13:49.000 They're just chilling.

00:13:50.000 You know, you talking about Pearl Harbor?

00:13:53.000 You must be smoking crack to think that that is comparable.

00:13:57.000 What a disrespect to the men and women who served this country, the men and women who were fighting on September 11th that have had residual effects that have happened.

00:14:07.000 People have died, skin blown off.

00:14:09.000 I mean, the images that we saw, people jumping out of buildings and hitting the ground from 100 stories high.

00:14:15.000 And you're talking about the Capitol building that didn't last long enough that they finished the vote the same day.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, it took like three hours for this whole thing to go through and then they were fixing the whole thing.

00:14:26.000 They went through and they got done with the election and they finalized it and everything.

00:14:30.000 And I was posting those images from Kamala Harris supporting the Minneapolis Freedom Fund and talking about how they set free this guy who had committed egregious acts against a child and all these sources that had gone through and fact-checked it and they couldn't even say it was false.

00:14:43.000 They were like, well, this needs context, you know, well, this isn't the full story.

00:14:47.000 But yeah, no, her Freedom Fund said a bunch of people A bunch of criminals, free.

00:14:51.000 Like child predators. 0.51

00:14:53.000 Like one guy apparently was reportedly a child predator.

00:14:55.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:57.000 That guy, yeah.

00:14:57.000 But Republicans are so weak, though.

00:15:00.000 Ted Cruz is a weenie. 0.98

00:15:02.000 All these people are so soft, man. 0.99

00:15:05.000 I mean, how can you go home and kiss your wife and act like you're the man of the house when you're such a weenie, man?

00:15:12.000 He may as well have resigned when he said that was a terrorist attack.

00:15:16.000 Yeah, I mean, who's gonna win?

00:15:18.000 He's an establishment brown-noser, and he always was an establishment brown-noser from the very beginning, and he's trying to placate the middle, allegedly. 0.81

00:15:28.000 We actually talked to someone who was around his circles recently, and when he responded to this, he's trying to show the Republicans that he's going to be the opposite of Trump.

00:15:37.000 He's going to be the moderate What world is he living in? 0.98

00:15:40.000 consider it Republican, but it's absolutely ridiculous because of just how brown and gooey and nasty his nose is 0.99

00:15:47.000 with all the butt kissing he's doing to the establishment. 1.00

00:15:50.000 It's nasty. 0.96

00:15:52.000 What world is he living in?

00:15:53.000 I don't know.

00:15:54.000 People love Trump.

00:15:55.000 I mean, I was just last night, there was this rapper named Kevin Gates.

00:15:59.000 He's a gangster rapper, well-known dude in the rap industry.

00:16:04.000 I just so happened, because I follow him, I just so happened to see him on live and he's talking about Trump and saying, oh, Trump was cold.

00:16:09.000 I mean, we need Trump back in office.

00:16:11.000 I mean, and there was a bunch of other dudes on there from the hood, from the community with mad respect.

00:16:17.000 And they all agreed that Trump was one of the best things that ever happened to our country, at least during their lifetime.

00:16:23.000 You gotta be crazy to think that somehow they're gonna leave Donald Trump, who was the answer to the prayers of many people, of having a person in office that's not a politician.

00:16:33.000 Somebody who's an outsider.

00:16:34.000 Somebody who's gonna stand up for America.

00:16:36.000 You think you're gonna you're gonna somehow swindle your way into that? I got it. He's he's trying to get that job

00:16:41.000 on the view It'd be great for it the view can't find a female 1.00

00:16:45.000 conservative because they've stated they want someone who's popular among the right

00:16:50.000 but who doesn't believe Trump won the election and You basically can't get it

00:16:56.000 So I think it's 71% in the latest poll of Republicans believe Trump won

00:17:00.000 Huh, and so they want someone so why would so so Ted Cruz comes out and he calls it a terror attack

00:17:05.000 It's not even necessarily about Trump.

00:17:07.000 If you're someone who pays attention to the news, like you actually read and investigate, you know it wasn't a terror attack.

00:17:14.000 It was, in one area, the tunnel, a riot.

00:17:17.000 And on the sides, people walked in confused.

00:17:20.000 The Maga Mimas, they call them, just bumbling around.

00:17:22.000 That Norm MacDonald tweet.

00:17:24.000 The violent, you know, insurrectionists respected the velvet ropes. 1.00

00:17:28.000 Just walking in like idiots, like they had no idea what was going on. 1.00

00:17:30.000 So when you see that, you're like, yeah, that was not terror. 1.00

00:17:34.000 And you see on Reddit, they have that photo of that officer, the Capitol officer, who like baited them and led them away.

00:17:39.000 And I'm like, these guys were, those guys, like it wasn't one group of people who planned to do anything.

00:17:45.000 And the FBI has even said that.

00:17:46.000 So to come out and for Ted Cruz to say terrorist attack, he's trying to convince Democrats who hate him to vote for him?

00:17:56.000 That's the crazy thing.

00:17:58.000 That's what I'm wondering.

00:17:59.000 What is his angle?

00:18:00.000 Who is telling him to do this? 1.00

00:18:01.000 It's the dumbest thing in the world. 1.00

00:18:02.000 Democrats hate you. 1.00

00:18:03.000 You are racist, sexist, homophobic, whatever they can name you, that's what you are to Democrats and people on the left. 1.00

00:18:11.000 And then everybody else, when I say everybody else, there's a small group of people in the middle, but the people in the middle aren't stupid enough to watch you go out and project theater As a politician and think that you're genuine. 1.00

00:18:25.000 People can see through Ted Cruz. 0.94

00:18:27.000 I don't think there's a center anymore.

00:18:28.000 I mean, there technically is.

00:18:30.000 I think this show is fairly moderate.

00:18:33.000 Some people have described it as like centrists, right-leaning a little bit.

00:18:36.000 And maybe it's because of the other influences of people on the show.

00:18:39.000 But we're not the, you know, hardcore MAGA hat wearing.

00:18:42.000 We're not, you know, conservative ink suit wearing like TPUSA or anything like that.

00:18:46.000 We're an eclectic bunch.

00:18:48.000 I don't even know what Ian is.

00:18:50.000 It's in motion, you know.

00:18:51.000 It's not static, whether it's on the right or on the left.

00:18:53.000 We're constantly swirling around the center and getting a little bit from both sides.

00:18:57.000 Maybe that's you.

00:18:58.000 Yes it is.

00:18:58.000 in your conscious. I don't like any of these politicians. I think they're all sellouts.

00:19:02.000 I think they're all working for the special interest and I think they'll take any opportunity

00:19:05.000 that they can to skin you alive and let them. Do you think Trump is a part of it? Absolutely

00:19:11.000 a hundred percent especially with his endorsement of big pharma especially with him sitting

00:19:15.000 down with Henry Kissinger during the start of his presidency. As soon as I seen that

00:19:18.000 I said OK that's game over. Yes he's congratulating and saying how great he is. That's that.

00:19:23.000 that had everyone's eyebrows out when he was talking about auditing the Federal

00:19:27.000 Reserve investigating 9-11 releasing the JFK CIA files he did none of that. I

00:19:32.000 agree. Trump? I think this is more Trump got into the office and they pulled him

00:19:37.000 they pulled him away. Trump is undoubtedly an outsider and so there

00:19:42.000 were things I think he was trying to get done I I do not believe he's part of the Swamp.

00:19:46.000 I think he's his own kind of different... Swamp monster.

00:19:49.000 That's how I see it myself.

00:19:51.000 He got in, like, I've been watching, Oliver Stone just released a Kennedy documentary about the assassination, and I was just watching another one last week, like, I think he got in and realized, okay, there's really a moving organism here that if I disrupt too much, it will reject me as part of the system, like if you put a little...

00:20:06.000 I wonder man.

00:20:07.000 I don't think he's a part of some cabal or something crazy like that.

00:20:11.000 I really do think that he did the best he could with what he had but I do think he's in a position where you know people expect him to be perfect and he's not perfect, you know, and this I'm gonna call him out when it's time to call him out, but I do think because of his history and what he's lived through, even a generational gap between us and him, is that some of these things he actually believe are true and necessary.

00:20:35.000 Like when he came out on Cannon's Own Show and he said the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life, I think he actually mean that.

00:20:41.000 The guys that I smoke with in the cigar lounge that are his age, or around his age, they all see the world the same way that he does. 0.57

00:20:49.000 I think Trump was an avatar of the anger of, you know, the American working class populists who are sick of the system.

00:20:56.000 And as Michael Moore put it, Trump was that human Molotov cocktail.

00:21:00.000 But Trump was imperfect.

00:21:04.000 He's the imperfect avatar.

00:21:05.000 He wasn't.

00:21:05.000 He was just that embodiment of anger for a lot of people.

00:21:08.000 He did things they liked.

00:21:10.000 You're never gonna get someone perfect, I guess.

00:21:12.000 He overpromised and he compromised a lot, but he did try to at least enter some kind of conversations into the dialogue that did make him look like a bull in a china shop, and he did have the corporate media scared.

00:21:24.000 He did have the establishment scared somewhat, but I think he also was trying to be liked by them at the same time, and his ego got in the way.

00:21:32.000 And from my perspective, There was a lot of possibilities there, and I think he failed on a lot of those possibilities. 0.95

00:21:38.000 But again, I don't want to be one of those crazy leftist lunatics that has Trump derangement syndromes.

00:21:42.000 When he did something good, I always complimented him and gave him respect and props for standing up for certain issues and making the debates and arguments that everyone was afraid to make.

00:21:52.000 So let's be honest, anyone who is in power deserves to be criticized no matter what, and we shouldn't always worship celebrities because when we do, bad things happen.

00:22:02.000 I agree and the reason I brought up like the kind of the whatever space this show occupies is that if we are you know if Luke is on this show and looks like we got to criticize all of these people we're certainly not the ardent Trump can do no wrong crowd and if we look at what Ted Cruz said like he's a lunatic then I don't know who he's going after.

00:22:20.000 Because, you know, I've seen these tweets where they're like, where's the middle ground between the... January 6th was an insurrection, and January 6th was no big deal.

00:22:28.000 And it's like, we talk about it all the time, and so do most of our guests.

00:22:31.000 Like, the riot was bad, these people who were engaging in violence should be prosecuted, and, you know, we don't want something like that to happen, but it certainly wasn't an insurrection, of course there's middle ground.

00:22:40.000 Ted Cruz is not occupying that.

00:22:42.000 So pandering to Democrats who hate you and souring yourself on even moderates who think it's a stupid thing to say, I think he's basically just, he may as well have just resigned and said, I'm done. 0.83

00:22:55.000 I'm not going to run again. 0.89

00:22:56.000 Maybe that's the plan to flip Texas Democrat in the Senate or something.

00:22:59.000 I have no idea.

00:22:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:23:00.000 I mean, maybe it's arrogance.

00:23:01.000 Maybe he's just out of touch.

00:23:03.000 These people are corny individuals.

00:23:04.000 Like, when you meet them in person, you're like, dude, you still got a politician hat on, dude.

00:23:08.000 We just sitting here talking.

00:23:09.000 Why are you, you know, using certain words and acting like you're in campaign mode?

00:23:14.000 Some of these people are not real individuals.

00:23:16.000 I don't even know if they go home or they still wearing a suit and trying to campaign to their wife or something or whatever to their kids.

00:23:24.000 I don't know if they're real people. 0.95

00:23:25.000 I'm campaigning to get laid to their waists. 1.00

00:23:26.000 Right, right.

00:23:27.000 I'm gonna tell you why tonight is gonna be the best five minutes of your life!

00:23:30.000 Five minutes?

00:23:31.000 That's right!

00:23:32.000 I won't overpromise.

00:23:34.000 Yeah, no, they are, man.

00:23:35.000 And I tell you, we've reached out to a lot of politicians, and we've been reached out to by a lot of politicians I've reached out, and I feel like even the people watch, you can tell.

00:23:46.000 You can tell when there's a Brandon Tatum sitting down having a real conversation, and when there's a politician getting ready for something.

00:23:51.000 Yeah, I think politicians, and people always say, you should be a politician.

00:23:55.000 I don't like it, man.

00:23:56.000 It's too grimy, too dirty, and I'm too real.

00:23:59.000 Maybe one day I may have to.

00:24:01.000 But I will never be a guy that's going to sit up here and read talking points, and this is what I should say, because the people think I'm just me.

00:24:07.000 If you don't want to vote for me, don't vote for me.

00:24:09.000 I don't know why people feel like they got to put on a character.

00:24:12.000 It's like online dating, right?

00:24:14.000 People put a facade out there and they want to present themselves as being a certain way and then you meet them in person and you're like, oh, you're not really who you said you was.

00:24:21.000 You built a facade.

00:24:22.000 You only put out the things that are positive about you.

00:24:25.000 People should just be real.

00:24:27.000 There should be a rating score on online dating apps when people give you reviews of five stars.

00:24:32.000 That's necessary.

00:24:34.000 That's awesome.

00:24:35.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:24:35.000 I guess you get into a long-term dating situation.

00:24:37.000 It just would be irrelevant, I guess.

00:24:39.000 Like, I found the one, it's over, and you close the account.

00:24:41.000 But no one does.

00:24:42.000 They keep their accounts open.

00:24:43.000 So I want to talk about this next segment, but I do want to give you guys an update.

00:24:49.000 So last night we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show.

00:24:52.000 She was absolutely fantastic.

00:24:53.000 And one of the things that came up was Dan Crenshaw being listed by the World Economic Forum's Young Global Leaders thing.

00:25:01.000 Yeah, with Pete Buttigieg and Tulsi Gabbard.

00:25:03.000 Budapest was a different year.

00:25:05.000 So I actually reached out to Dan Crenshaw, and I'll give you the gist of his statement paraphrase.

00:25:11.000 Basically, his understanding, or I should say my takeaway from what he said, is that this is an editorial list that they have nothing to do with.

00:25:19.000 So I asked him, is this like Forbes 30 under 30?

00:25:22.000 Like, the World Economic Forum just decides these are people we think you should watch.

00:25:26.000 And he was like, yes, there was no communication involved.

00:25:28.000 They just put me on some list.

00:25:29.000 And now he's like, people see that and they think I'm associated in some way.

00:25:33.000 I think it's important that, you know, people hear his response.

00:25:36.000 Cause we did pull that up.

00:25:37.000 And I even said, I don't know what this young global leaders thing is.

00:25:41.000 And if it turns out that the Davos group just like makes a list of people they're

00:25:46.000 interested in, whether you realize it or not, I don't want to smear the guy

00:25:49.000 over something someone else does.

00:25:50.000 And I agree with you, but why would they pick him?

00:25:51.000 Right.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, me and you.

00:25:54.000 They're not going to pick Trump.

00:25:56.000 They're not going to pick Marjorie Greene. 0.87

00:25:57.000 They're not going to pick certain people, so why did they pick you?

00:26:01.000 And I'm telling you what, man, my wife cannot stand him.

00:26:04.000 And she just thinks that he is a part of the establishment.

00:26:08.000 And I can't verify that unequivocally.

00:26:10.000 I remember when he first came out and I said, yeah, I like this dude.

00:26:13.000 Military guy, he's bad to the bone, missing the eye.

00:26:17.000 This is the dude.

00:26:18.000 And then he started, it's like they get in office and they start getting softer and softer and softer.

00:26:22.000 And before you know it, they're acquiescing in this way.

00:26:25.000 They're trying to be cool with these people and they're in the middle.

00:26:28.000 They're not like Marjorie Green.

00:26:29.000 Like, I'm not expecting everybody to be radical.

00:26:31.000 But I'm expecting you to go in there and tear stuff up.

00:26:34.000 I'm expecting you to go in there and stand your ground, and stand on the principles that people are asking you to stand on.

00:26:39.000 You got elected because you had these campaign videos of you being an outsider coming in and serving your community, and because you were in the military.

00:26:48.000 But then you get in there and you just shrink down, and you're just like everybody else.

00:26:53.000 And it's easy for me to talk because I'm not in politics, but like, Is that what happens to you when you get into politics?

00:27:03.000 I met her before she ever was in politics and I remember we were at some conference and she was like, I'm going to run for office.

00:27:10.000 And I remember, you know, she was such a cool person in the fitness and, but like, how long is she going to last?

00:27:16.000 I don't know.

00:27:17.000 If she does shows like this for a long time, I'll tell you.

00:27:20.000 I hope so.

00:27:21.000 The big thing for me was... Wait, it's all about the media.

00:27:25.000 She said kooky things on Facebook back in the day.

00:27:27.000 She apologized for those things.

00:27:29.000 I don't know if I agree with her on all of her policy positions, but when she said she went down to Congress and forced roll call votes to make all the members actually come down and have to vote on these bills, I was just like, that deserves a standing ovation.

00:27:40.000 Absolutely making these people do their jobs and I got messages from people where they were like as soon as I

00:27:45.000 heard that I was Like I'll vote for because like all of her policy positions

00:27:49.000 aside if she's going there and telling all these members of Congress get down 0.98

00:27:52.000 Here vote and do your jobs I'll take it and show the constituents what you're voting

00:27:57.000 for because otherwise that would be hidden from them So holding them account it to the point where even

00:28:03.000 Republicans are mad at her and Democrats are mad at her because they can't just pass 1.00

00:28:07.000 Through all these bills really fast I think that's great.

00:28:10.000 I think the more we have.

00:28:12.000 You know the stagnation in government the better government we have that's my own personal perspective

00:28:18.000 That's how I see it because when they're arguing and fighting amongst each other

00:28:21.000 They're not trying to put government on someone else and they put been putting a lot of government on a lot of

00:28:25.000 people and she's Stopping it somewhat, but I think she I think she's a great

00:28:29.000 example for all Americans That if you feel the call to serve you don't have to be

00:28:36.000 some politician You don't have to have some legacy of political background.

00:28:40.000 And that's true for AOC as well.

00:28:41.000 You can say, I want to be, I want to do this because I feel like I want to make a difference.

00:28:45.000 And if you pursue it, because I remember her saying she was going to do it before she ever did it, and she pursued it and she won.

00:28:51.000 And I think you're correct about AOC. 0.96

00:28:53.000 Even though I think she's dumber than a bag of rocks, Well, that's not fair. 0.99

00:28:58.000 That's not fair to the bag of rocks. 0.98

00:29:01.000 Let me not disrespect rocks like that.

00:29:03.000 Ian's anger is right now.

00:29:06.000 You triggered anger.

00:29:06.000 He has a lot of rocks in front of him.

00:29:08.000 Ancient rocks.

00:29:08.000 I'm not going to disrespect them like that.

00:29:10.000 So let me not be superfluous.

00:29:12.000 I think that her arguments are poor.

00:29:15.000 I think that she believes what she's saying, though.

00:29:18.000 And that's why she's been so successful.

00:29:21.000 I honestly believe that her... First take AOC? 1.00

00:29:22.000 Yeah, AOC.

00:29:23.000 I disagree, man.

00:29:24.000 You don't think she... I think she's dumb enough to believe this stuff. 1.00

00:29:26.000 Every time they come out and they say like, hey AOC, I'm criticizing you for this thing you did, she goes, you just wanna date me. 1.00

00:29:31.000 I think she's dumb enough to believe that. 0.99

00:29:34.000 She thinks people want to sleep with her. 1.00

00:29:39.000 I don't like, you know, we make fun of her for being dumb and all that stuff. 0.98

00:29:43.000 I'm actually not a fan of doing that. 0.99

00:29:45.000 I don't like her.

00:29:45.000 I do think she is lacking in ability.

00:29:48.000 I think she's a master of marketing. 0.59

00:29:50.000 She's a master of media manipulation. 1.00

00:29:55.000 I don't know.

00:29:56.000 I want to make sure that when we present criticisms, it's substantive.

00:30:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:03.000 It feels kind of greasy.

00:30:04.000 Yeah, sometimes I go over the top and I may say certain words because that's how I really feel.

00:30:09.000 But in actuality, you have to say, look at the critique of what she's doing.

00:30:15.000 She literally came on television and bashed people for not wearing masks. 1.00

00:30:19.000 She bashed them. 1.00

00:30:20.000 She's been bashing DeSantis.

00:30:22.000 And she's literally in his state.

00:30:25.000 Drinking and having a good time, hugging people, kissing and partying.

00:30:29.000 That's only what we saw on camera.

00:30:31.000 She was probably living her best life, but she get on TV and she make these claims. 0.98

00:30:36.000 She talked about climate change.

00:30:38.000 Oh, we're gonna all die in 13 years or something.

00:30:41.000 It's irreversible.

00:30:42.000 But I guarantee you she got on a jet, a plane, and flew to Miami, rented a car probably, and is driving around living her best life. 1.00

00:30:51.000 These people, they're either dumb or they're evil. 1.00

00:30:54.000 That's right. 1.00

00:30:54.000 One of the two. 1.00

00:30:56.000 Or both.

00:30:56.000 I think it's evil, dude.

00:30:57.000 It could be both.

00:30:58.000 And I'm not trying to be superfluous in my description of her.

00:31:01.000 I just really do think that these people are evil or they are... 0.96

00:31:07.000 Completely out of their mind. 1.00

00:31:07.000 Definitely ignorant. 1.00

00:31:08.000 Because if they think climate change is not going to be stopped, they're ignorant. 1.00

00:31:11.000 Because it can be.

00:31:12.000 We can withdraw the carbon from the atmosphere.

00:31:15.000 It's got to be evil.

00:31:16.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:31:17.000 Didn't Obama buy beachfront property?

00:31:18.000 Yeah, of course he did.

00:31:20.000 The banks are giving him loans 24 hours a day.

00:31:22.000 So did Bill Gates.

00:31:24.000 So these people that come out and claim all this stuff, climate change and whatever, they do the opposite. 0.99

00:31:28.000 When I see Marjorie Taylor Greene refusing to wear a mask, and she's got, I think she was saying like 90,000 fines or something accrued from all the stupid BS. 0.99

00:31:38.000 She's going down to the house and Nancy Pelosi's like, everybody gotta wear a mask, and she's not gonna do it. 0.99

00:31:41.000 That's consistent with what she said.

00:31:43.000 She's doing what she says.

00:31:45.000 When AOC says Texas is effectively gonna be killing people by ending the mask mandates, and then she chooses not to wear a mask in Florida, but criticizes DeSantis, you can see how she really feels.

00:31:56.000 When no one tells her she has to, she won't. So it's not about wearing the masks. It's about

00:32:00.000 the government mandating people do it.

00:32:02.000 Yeah. So it's like, well, I think it's evil too, because it's like, you know, the position

00:32:09.000 No matter which direction you go, it's evil.

00:32:11.000 different to the people because you want to toe the line because you want to get reelected.

00:32:16.000 Why would you do people like that when you don't practice what you preach?

00:32:19.000 Let's put it this way.

00:32:20.000 No matter what, no matter which direction you go, it's evil.

00:32:22.000 Here's why.

00:32:23.000 If she thinks masks really will save lives and that you have to have them, then she goes

00:32:30.000 to part and parties without one thinking she'll be killing people by doing that. 1.00

00:32:34.000 That's kind of evil.

00:32:34.000 That sounds evil!

00:32:35.000 Willfully putting people at risk, at least based on that belief that masks are important.

00:32:39.000 Or, she's claiming masks are important, and doesn't actually believe it, and is just lying to toe some tribal line.

00:32:46.000 Also evil!

00:32:47.000 Dude, it's a career move, right?

00:32:49.000 This is what I'm learning about politics.

00:32:53.000 These people want to stay in office as long as they can.

00:32:55.000 Because when you're in office, it's not just your little salary you get.

00:32:57.000 $170,000 you get in the House of Representatives every two years.

00:32:59.000 They got a $1.4 million budget.

00:33:00.000 Right.

00:33:00.000 Per year, I think it is.

00:33:05.000 But you know how many butts they kissing and how many people they doing deals with behind the scenes.

00:33:09.000 You stay in there long enough.

00:33:11.000 You're going to be, you're going to be set for the rest of your life.

00:33:13.000 And I often wonder, is this what they're really doing it for?

00:33:17.000 Is she doing this to secure the bag for the rest of her life?

00:33:22.000 Pointing out lies that she know aren't true, but she have to push those to get reelected. 0.99

00:33:27.000 Because she really don't care.

00:33:28.000 I mean, she don't care about other people. 0.50

00:33:31.000 It didn't appear that she does.

00:33:32.000 I don't know.

00:33:32.000 You get this crazy data, like this CNN analyst saying that masks are, calling them facial decorations on TV.

00:33:39.000 Like this is Leanna Nguyen said this two weeks ago.

00:33:41.000 On CNN?

00:33:42.000 On CNN.

00:33:43.000 So how confusing for someone to be like, you're supposed to wear a mask, but then the CNN guidance comes out or the analyst and says they don't function properly.

00:33:52.000 This is the issue.

00:33:53.000 It's almost like people bring up Yuri Bezmenov all the time.

00:33:57.000 Just confuse and demoralize the population.

00:33:59.000 Keep them in a constant state of chaos so they can't figure out what's going on and what they're supposed to do.

00:34:03.000 And the politicians are also in that state.

00:34:06.000 We'll go back to how she ended up being brought up.

00:34:08.000 First it was Dan Crenshaw.

00:34:11.000 He's arguing with Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:34:13.000 You know, we had MTG on and I think the member segment we did with her, it was getting legit.

00:34:20.000 And I'm like, man, I really want to have like a longer form off YouTube so we can just go deep dive on a bunch of topics.

00:34:26.000 Because when we do the YouTube show, it's very topical.

00:34:28.000 It's very direct topical.

00:34:29.000 We mostly talked about her and censorship and Congress and what was going on in Congress.

00:34:34.000 And then we started getting to the nitty gritty of just like the things she's talked about in the past, how she feels, how she feels about vaccine mandates.

00:34:40.000 And it was raw and it was real.

00:34:42.000 And then I was just like, man, she was swearing.

00:34:44.000 And I'm like, it did not feel like the other politicians we've had on the show who are worried about offending one side or the other and trying to get votes.

00:34:50.000 It felt like she was just like, I'm here and I'm going to tell you what I think.

00:34:53.000 And I was like, man, that's what people like about Trump.

00:34:56.000 Yes.

00:34:56.000 That's what people like about MTG.

00:34:58.000 You know, we're so sick of the inauthentic, fake BS in politics, we will take something that seems genuine.

00:35:05.000 And unfortunately for the populist left, the people they brought on, they're all disingenuous.

00:35:08.000 Well, let's be honest, AOC talks a big game.

00:35:11.000 But when Pelosi says step in line, she steps in line and votes like Pelosi wants her to vote.

00:35:16.000 But she also mastered social media.

00:35:19.000 And she also mastered the way of engaging with people and exploiting that to its fullest extent and there are algorithms that of course are pushing her messaging out to millions and millions of people in an unrestricted way, which of course is something that the other side does not have.

00:35:34.000 So when you have direct lines through the algorithm to the youth, You're able to influence them, especially when you set up a gaming channel.

00:35:41.000 I mean, this person, I don't think she's dumb.

00:35:43.000 I think she's very smart. 0.92

00:35:45.000 I think she's very calculated.

00:35:46.000 It might have been a mistake that she got caught without, you know, wearing a mask in Florida.

00:35:50.000 Ron DeSantis said that this is, quote, a ruling class mentality, and I think that has more kind of perspective to it.

00:35:58.000 But look what she did with January 6th. 1.00

00:36:00.000 Look how she involved herself in that event when she lied about being at the Capitol. 0.99

00:36:07.000 No, no.

00:36:08.000 When this story came out, AOC claimed that she thought the rioters had made it to her office.

00:36:14.000 She made that up.

00:36:15.000 The timeline made no sense.

00:36:16.000 I saw Ben Shapiro tweeting it, and I tweeted out, I'm like, yo, it's not that she's making up the fear, it's that the whole story's fabricated.

00:36:24.000 I couldn't believe how many people on the right didn't catch this.

00:36:27.000 When the cop knocks on her door, and AOC is like, so then I'm like, I'm in, I hide in the bathroom, and I'm thinking like they found me or whatever, and then I hear, where is she?

00:36:37.000 And it's the most exaggerated insanity ever, and then she's thinking she was gonna die or whatever she said.

00:36:42.000 When I saw that story I was like, wait.

00:36:44.000 You know, I actually argued with the Huffington Post guy through direct messages, because I said, you know, when she came out in the hallway, there were already a bunch of people there being evacuated, so where was she?

00:36:52.000 She wasn't in the Capitol, she was in her building.

00:36:54.000 Then people said, yeah, but the Capitol does connect through tunnels to that building.

00:36:57.000 And then I was like, why?

00:36:58.000 When did the rioters make it through the tunnels?

00:37:00.000 They didn't?

00:37:00.000 Did they think they were gonna?

00:37:01.000 Why did they think that?

00:37:03.000 And then...

00:37:04.000 I actually went through the timeline of when she said, it was this time, it was like one o'clock when she was getting her food, and she had a knock on the door, and I went, at one o'clock, not a single rioter had even made it to the building yet.

00:37:16.000 It was, it was, they had just breached the first barricade.

00:37:19.000 No one knew what had happened and the police, it was that famous video where the cops fanning people in.

00:37:24.000 It wasn't until I think an hour later that the rioters actually breached the building.

00:37:28.000 An hour later!

00:37:30.000 Do you think she was being honest but had her timeline wrong?

00:37:32.000 That makes no sense.

00:37:32.000 No.

00:37:33.000 How was she being honest?

00:37:34.000 So that would mean that if she was being honest, she was in her office, the cop knocked on her door, and then she had a psychic premonition of people raiding the Capitol and went, They're gonna raid the Capitol and they might be here now.

00:37:45.000 Right, she was messing up. 0.98

00:37:46.000 It's all bullcrap. 0.98

00:37:47.000 No one knew that was gonna happen. 0.99

00:37:49.000 She lied.

00:37:51.000 Made the whole thing up.

00:37:52.000 And I've been to the Capitol building.

00:37:54.000 I've been to the halls of Congress.

00:37:56.000 It's difficult to figure that building out.

00:37:59.000 To go through the tunnel is very difficult.

00:38:02.000 Of course, we had to get escorted, and they showed us how to get down there.

00:38:05.000 And if you were down there for the first time, you don't know where it goes.

00:38:08.000 You don't know where to go, what door to go out to.

00:38:11.000 It's a big hallway in the middle where they got trains and stuff going through there.

00:38:16.000 And so it's like, come on, man. 1.00

00:38:17.000 I mean, she is a liar. 0.99

00:38:19.000 People, the left does this well. 0.99

00:38:19.000 It's the same thing. 0.99

00:38:21.000 And the reason why is age, youth.

00:38:26.000 She is in the era of social media.

00:38:30.000 Republicans don't have a lot of young people involved and therefore they are not capturing the social media, you know, frenzy and they're not getting the reach that AOC is getting.

00:38:40.000 If you notice, it's the older people that don't even use Facebook.

00:38:43.000 I mean, some of the people, some of the Republicans probably don't even know how to use social media at this point.

00:38:47.000 They're not good at it.

00:38:48.000 That's why we, or I say we, I'm a Republican, that's why we should get younger people involved like Marjorie. 0.99

00:38:56.000 I think it's Marjorie.

00:38:57.000 Marjorie.

00:38:58.000 Marjorie.

00:38:58.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:38:59.000 I keep saying her name.

00:38:59.000 Marjorie.

00:39:00.000 That's her sort of husband.

00:39:00.000 She's not younger.

00:39:01.000 I don't want to call her old.

00:39:02.000 She's a mom.

00:39:03.000 She's about my age.

00:39:03.000 Younger.

00:39:04.000 47?

00:39:04.000 She's younger.

00:39:04.000 Right.

00:39:04.000 She's younger.

00:39:05.000 In the 30, 40 range.

00:39:05.000 She's not 60, 50, 60, 70.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, she's younger. Right. She's younger in the 3040 range.

00:39:09.000 She's not 60 50 60. She's healthy. She's like I hear you're saying but it is kind of scary that they're she's the old

00:39:17.000 that she's the young one. Right?

00:39:19.000 I mean, she's gonna beat you up next time she sees you. 1.00

00:39:22.000 I'm just messing with you.

00:39:23.000 No, we gotta be real.

00:39:24.000 I was like, I don't want to call her old or anything like that because she's only 47.

00:39:27.000 But it's kind of crazy that we need millennials.

00:39:31.000 Because we don't have term limits.

00:39:32.000 We need term limits because otherwise we're gonna get all these 80-year-olds. 1.00

00:39:35.000 It's not cool, though.

00:39:36.000 Politics are not cool.

00:39:37.000 You can run for office when you're 75.

00:39:39.000 I feel like Trump made it a little more cool, a little more dynamic.

00:39:43.000 You don't have to be a politician to be in office.

00:39:45.000 But it's not sexy to be a politician.

00:39:48.000 But people need to make it that way.

00:39:49.000 And I feel like AOC for the left, she made it cool.

00:39:53.000 The Kennedy assassination made it not cool for me.

00:39:55.000 I can't get in there and speak my mind because I'm afraid that they're all watching me and they know where I sleep.

00:40:00.000 I'm not comfortable with that.

00:40:01.000 If a president gets in there and they really want to change the system, they're going to need to duck out of the country for a while.

00:40:06.000 Because the CIA is not going to like it.

00:40:07.000 This system is like in place for a reason.

00:40:10.000 It's scary.

00:40:11.000 I don't know politics can twist it open.

00:40:14.000 But when you're young, I mean, most people that probably should be in politics don't desire to be in politics.

00:40:18.000 And the people that do desire to be in politics are people probably who are power hungry and narcissistic and that's how they end up getting in.

00:40:24.000 And they get power and they love it. 0.56

00:40:26.000 Sociopaths.

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 And so it's unfortunate, but like, I don't know how to fix it, but younger people need to feel more confident that, look, this is our country.

00:40:35.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:40:35.000 And we need to take it over through being in politics.

00:40:37.000 It's like it needs a bunch of things have to happen at once.

00:40:39.000 We need young, new, intelligent politicians.

00:40:41.000 We need new pieces of technology and new shows that are being developed that are like invigorating the entire process.

00:40:47.000 But it has to happen all at once.

00:40:48.000 It can't be one or the other.

00:40:49.000 Right.

00:40:50.000 I'm just not the person that can get into politics because of my mind state.

00:40:53.000 It'd be too dangerous for me.

00:40:54.000 Let's just jump off the metaphorical cliff with this next article from Politico.

00:40:59.000 They write, we are in a new civil war.

00:41:02.000 About what exactly?

00:41:04.000 Grievous conflicts have been about big things, war, slavery, depression, but this time we just don't like each other.

00:41:10.000 Spoken like a true establishment Democrat personality who doesn't know anything about the right, or moderates, or libertarians, or post-liberals.

00:41:18.000 This article says to me, oh, they've recognized there's anger, there's a conflict.

00:41:22.000 But they're so ignorant to what's been going on, they think we just don't like each other?

00:41:28.000 That to me is absolutely incredible. 0.99

00:41:29.000 Let me just start with Barack Obama killed children.

00:41:34.000 National Defense Authorization Act, indefinite detention provision. 0.89

00:41:36.000 NSA spying.

00:41:38.000 NSA spying.

00:41:40.000 The prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers.

00:41:42.000 And then let's move on to more towards the end.

00:41:44.000 Hillary Clinton deleting 30,000 emails.

00:41:46.000 Getting away with it.

00:41:48.000 And the establishment lying and protecting.

00:41:50.000 How about this?

00:41:50.000 Russiagate.

00:41:51.000 Ukrainegate.

00:41:52.000 The Covington kids.

00:41:53.000 Over and over and over.

00:41:54.000 Benghazi.

00:41:55.000 Lies. 0.99

00:41:55.000 Benghazi. 0.99

00:41:56.000 Afghanistan.

00:41:57.000 Now, I can complain about the things Trump did with the commando raids in Yemen and the drone strikes, upping the drone strikes, missile strikes in Syria, too.

00:42:04.000 And I can tell you, we, I think most people in this country, are pissed off at the establishment for those reasons and many, many more.

00:42:11.000 But what do they say?

00:42:13.000 We just don't like each other.

00:42:14.000 No, no, no.

00:42:14.000 You don't know, this faction of the establishment zombie NPCs, they don't, they just hate.

00:42:20.000 They hate or they're ignorant. 0.98

00:42:22.000 They don't read, they don't care to learn, and they don't want to hear what you have to say. 0.98

00:42:24.000 But the conflict we are seeing bubble up from, I guess, the American populists, be it moderate left and right, then you have the establishment left.

00:42:32.000 There's real reasons why there's a conflict happening.

00:42:35.000 Yeah, I think that that's true.

00:42:37.000 But the layman, the average American, they hate each other and don't even know why.

00:42:42.000 People hate their neighbors.

00:42:44.000 And I agree with you to a certain degree because I do think that there's reasons why, but a lot of people cannot even articulate the reason why they don't like Trump.

00:42:52.000 Why do you think it is?

00:42:53.000 Where do you think it comes from? 1.00

00:42:53.000 People are dumb. 1.00

00:42:54.000 We've been dumbed down through technology, through the school system. 1.00

00:42:58.000 People are such, they're such sheep. 0.99

00:43:00.000 And maybe we've always been this way. 0.70

00:43:01.000 But this is what I'm saying, right?

00:43:03.000 You ask the average Trump supporter, do you watch Trump speak?

00:43:07.000 They'll probably say yes, and that's why they like him.

00:43:11.000 How many people have we heard, they used to be Democrats and then they decided to vote for Trump after they actually listened to the man?

00:43:18.000 What the media had done, the establishment media, with articles like this, what are we mad about exactly?

00:43:23.000 They don't tell their audience what's really happening.

00:43:25.000 They show Trump in the worst possible light.

00:43:27.000 I saw a Reddit post, and it was like one of the top posts, and it said, For the life of me, I don't understand why this wasn't the end of it.

00:43:35.000 And it was a picture of Trump doing the arm thing, and it said, Trump mocks disabled reporter.

00:43:39.000 They set Trump up with that, and if you actually watch the video, Trump supporters said Trump insults everyone in the same way saying, oh geez, oh geez.

00:43:50.000 It has nothing to do with the reporter in general. 1.00

00:43:52.000 When you realize that Trump insults everybody that way, you're like, oh, he's just an asshole. 1.00

00:43:57.000 It wasn't directed at one disabled guy, but the media lied about it. 1.00

00:44:00.000 Then all of a sudden you're like, okay, I get it. 1.00

00:44:02.000 He's kind of a dick. 0.99

00:44:03.000 But what is he saying? 1.00

00:44:05.000 And then you actually listen to what he has to say and you're like, wow, the media told me he was a white supremacist, now it turns out he just wants to bring factories back?

00:44:11.000 All of a sudden people vote for him.

00:44:12.000 I just kind of want to add a little bit to your point that you were making in the beginning.

00:44:16.000 I think it's fair to acknowledge that the establishment has been screwing over the average person for a very long time, whether it's the wars, The banker bailouts the hyper money printing there's a ... lot of problems that are artificially created for the ... benefit of the ruling elite in the United States that ... screws over the average American and then they have ... the gall to say it's his fault and they're doing this ... with social conditioning they're doing this with the ... algorithms they're doing this with trauma-based mind ... control and emotional manipulation and they're saying ... all of your problems that we caused how we see we ...

00:44:49.000 Your neighbor's the problem.

00:44:51.000 And some people are actually believing it and buying that bag of lies.

00:44:55.000 And to me, this is why we're so close towards this conflict, which again, we should do everything in our power to try to avoid.

00:45:02.000 Sorry, you had something to say as well.

00:45:03.000 One more point real quick.

00:45:04.000 Sorry.

00:45:05.000 I just want to reiterate a point that we brought up on a couple other shows.

00:45:08.000 Lauren Boebert made fun of Biden for saying, true nana shabba da pressure when he had that gaffe.

00:45:14.000 She said, Biden has never fulfilled his promise of getting us true nana shabba da pressure or whatever.

00:45:19.000 And the response from the Democrat activist base was, what is she trying to say? 0.99

00:45:24.000 Her brain is finally rotted. 1.00

00:45:27.000 Oh no, look how dumb she is. 1.00

00:45:28.000 What was she trying to type? 1.00

00:45:30.000 They didn't know Joe Biden said that because they don't watch the news.

00:45:35.000 And Politico and CNN, these outlets, don't inform them of what's actually going on.

00:45:39.000 So they live in this bubble world, echo chamber, where they hate everyone outside of it.

00:45:44.000 And the people outside of it, you know, beyond the fire, have seen all the different aspects of reality and the nuance.

00:45:50.000 That's the conflict.

00:45:51.000 Can we play the true and honest shot with the pressure at some point?

00:45:53.000 Well, I'll pull it up while you... Yeah, no, you hit the nail on the head because that's how I became Republican and why I voted for Trump is because I went to one of his rallies.

00:46:01.000 Now, first and foremost, I'm open-minded.

00:46:03.000 And that's what people need to get to the point where they can say, Let me open my mind up and hear both sides of an argument before I make a decision. 0.83

00:46:10.000 But I went to a rally, a Trump rally, in I think it was 2015, 2016, and I went in there and he was supposed to be this racist dude throwing black people out of his rallies for no reason, illegally, and all this other stuff.

00:46:22.000 I went there and the dude was cool.

00:46:24.000 He was saying all the things that I believe.

00:46:25.000 I'm like, and he did it with passion.

00:46:29.000 He did it authentically, all of the above.

00:46:32.000 And then I found out that he wasn't throwing people out of his events illegally.

00:46:37.000 He was buying or renting these spaces as a private event.

00:46:42.000 And in a private event, you can ask people to leave.

00:46:44.000 And if they refuse to leave, they can be arrested for trespassing.

00:46:47.000 That's what he did.

00:46:48.000 He gave an announcement before every rally that he did.

00:46:51.000 And all of that blew my mind as a police officer.

00:46:54.000 And I said, you know what?

00:46:55.000 These people are lying.

00:46:57.000 And I'll say this, too, about the Republicans, is that the Republicans need to do a good job at recruiting and converting.

00:47:03.000 But the Republicans don't do the converting.

00:47:07.000 The Democrats do.

00:47:08.000 I didn't become a Republican because of Republicans. 0.99

00:47:11.000 I came to college because of these crazy Democrats. 0.99

00:47:14.000 All of my friends, my dad, everybody, They go so crazy, these leftists. 0.97

00:47:20.000 They go so wacky that it push people away and then they end up going to the other side.

00:47:24.000 Would you start a new political party?

00:47:26.000 Ah, it's too late.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:27.000 It's too late because, you know, you still have people in this country that are irrational, right?

00:47:33.000 There's the radical and then there's the rational people.

00:47:36.000 And I think a lot of rational people still have rational ideas within the Republican Party and believe that it could actually be rescued.

00:47:44.000 If you get another party, you're going to split the vote.

00:47:47.000 I'm gonna try I'm gonna play this clip just real quick I want that cheering after can you

00:48:01.000 It's the way the crowd cheers after he says it.

00:48:04.000 It's like this cult of like, they don't even know what he said, but they're like, yes!

00:48:07.000 That's another thing.

00:48:08.000 I was like, when he says, Trinidad Shabba Da Pressure or whatever, and Batacaf care, everyone goes, yeah! 0.98

00:48:13.000 And it's like, what?

00:48:14.000 They're cheering just for the fact that he made a noise.

00:48:16.000 It doesn't even matter what he said.

00:48:17.000 They don't even know.

00:48:18.000 That's usually politics, Ian.

00:48:22.000 I mean, the guy is showing early signs of mental deterioration.

00:48:26.000 I mean, it's not even a joke.

00:48:27.000 I mean, the fact that he's stumbling over his words, he can't talk straight.

00:48:31.000 He don't know where he's at half of the time.

00:48:32.000 This proves that the president is not in charge.

00:48:34.000 This proves that someone else is calling the shots here.

00:48:37.000 That's from my perspective.

00:48:38.000 That's how I see it.

00:48:39.000 That's my opinion.

00:48:40.000 I know we disagree and we can debate this later, but... Hold on.

00:48:44.000 It's a good point, Luke.

00:48:46.000 I disagree with you.

00:48:47.000 I think your opinion is valid, in my opinion.

00:48:49.000 I think he's sitting at the table, whacked out of his mind, Kamala Harris doesn't care, and he's telling people, we gotta, you know, he's in this, like, the situation room, you gotta, Libya!

00:49:00.000 Come on, man!

00:49:01.000 And then they're like, okay, and they all look around at each other and they're like, you got it, and they walk out of the room like, what do we do?

00:49:07.000 Withdrawal?

00:49:07.000 Attack?

00:49:07.000 attack? I don't know, let's just move some ships around.

00:49:10.000 And then they do. Like, I think Joe Biden is just muttering and sputtering and they just say, when

00:49:15.000 you look at Kamala Harris not going to the border, that's, I don't think that's an issue of

00:49:20.000 Biden not running the show. I think it's an issue of them being like, I don't know, man, I don't

00:49:25.000 care. Biden says she's the borders are and she's like, I ain't doing it. What's he, cause he's

00:49:28.000 gonna forget. So I don't care.

00:49:30.000 I think there's a whole bunch of black rock corporate executives are dark suits sitting with literal strings on Biden and pulling him every step of the way as he moves, but that's just my own perspective and opinion, but I also wanted to add I think this concept of civil unrest of a civil war. 0.80

00:49:46.000 It's not a crazy one Newsweek had a very important article today and they were talking about how civil unrest historically is the norm after pandemics and they talked to two political scientists and they said between 1300.

00:50:01.000 Between the 1300s black death and the 1918 Spanish flu, there were 57 pandemics, and there was only four cases of them that didn't result in a revolt or large-scale protest afterwards.

00:50:14.000 And they actually announced a number of times... Yeah, the cops just walked in.

00:50:17.000 Yeah, I don't know what's going on here.

00:50:21.000 Should we?

00:50:22.000 Yeah.

00:50:23.000 I was looking at my notes and I was like... Did somebody swat you?

00:50:27.000 Yep, somebody swatted us.

00:50:28.000 Did they really?

00:50:29.000 Yep, somebody swatted us.

00:50:30.000 How do you know?

00:50:31.000 How do you know?

00:50:32.000 I have somebody texting me.

00:50:34.000 Oh, wow.

00:50:35.000 So yeah, just a police officer entered here, looked around because it looks like someone swatted this live broadcast here.

00:50:45.000 Glad they didn't come in here bussing, man. 1.00

00:50:47.000 I'm glad.

00:50:48.000 Yeah, I mean, that's something that's extremely dangerous, extremely reckless, because, you know, SWAT incidences have led to a lot of innocent people dying.

00:51:00.000 Dogs being shot, people being shot, people thinking that their house is being raided by criminals defending themselves.

00:51:06.000 So, whoever did that, and they're listening, like, Yeah, those things, you know, and it's a healthy penalty if you get caught swatting.

00:51:18.000 That's a felony crime and you could spend years in jail over it because of the inherent risk.

00:51:25.000 If a police officer, you know, believes that...

00:51:29.000 If the police officer believes that there's, who knows what they said?

00:51:33.000 You know, they could have said somebody is screaming for help.

00:51:35.000 Or kidnapped.

00:51:35.000 Someone's kidnapped here.

00:51:36.000 We need to send a police officer.

00:51:37.000 And I heard a boom.

00:51:39.000 Yeah, they opened that door loud.

00:51:39.000 I heard a boom.

00:51:41.000 So what if we were in here, you know, and we saw them and we pulled a trigger on them?

00:51:45.000 Yeah.

00:51:45.000 And we're in a shootout with the police.

00:51:47.000 You can get them hurt.

00:51:48.000 We can get hurt.

00:51:49.000 You know, it's crazy.

00:51:50.000 Did that happen to you while you were on the force?

00:51:53.000 Nah, we never got caught on that.

00:51:54.000 I'm going to tell you guys what just happened.

00:51:58.000 The cops walked in.

00:51:58.000 I just walked out of the room.

00:51:59.000 They walked around with flashlights.

00:52:00.000 We've been swatted.

00:52:01.000 I am extremely unhappy with this because...

00:52:06.000 I can't necessarily be mad at the officers.

00:52:09.000 They were very polite, but I do not like cops coming into my house when we have mats all over the place. 1.00

00:52:13.000 They come back with a warrant.

00:52:14.000 Yeah.

00:52:16.000 And I don't know who let them in or why.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, what happened?

00:52:19.000 I understand they're here because we got swatted.

00:52:21.000 A report was made that two people had been shot and killed and that the gunman was threatening to hurt themselves.

00:52:29.000 They didn't send a SWAT team.

00:52:30.000 It was just a couple of officers.

00:52:31.000 I don't want to drag them or be mean to them because they were polite.

00:52:36.000 But I'm not happy with the idea that they're walking into our studio while we are live, they're walking around.

00:52:43.000 Cop immediately, I walked out of the room, he immediately came up and said, I'm really, really sorry about this.

00:52:47.000 We're not trying to, you know, screw with you or ruin what you're doing.

00:52:50.000 Here's what happened.

00:52:50.000 We got a call.

00:52:51.000 Two people had been shot and killed and a person was going to be killing themselves.

00:52:55.000 We have to check it out and make sure everything's okay.

00:52:56.000 We're going to be doing a sweep once we figure it out.

00:52:58.000 And I'm just like, Come back with a warrant.

00:53:01.000 But I have to say, this is what I have to say.

00:53:03.000 I don't think that they believed that that was 100% true.

00:53:08.000 There's no way on planet Earth that only two officers would show up to a double homicide with a barricaded subject.

00:53:15.000 Yeah, tell them to leave.

00:53:17.000 Let me just explain this from a police perspective as well.

00:53:21.000 If the police do a swatting call, right, and it's found to be illegitimate, You're right.

00:53:28.000 They, you know, any evidence that they think they may have or they may, it's suppressed

00:53:34.000 because this was an illegitimate entry into a house.

00:53:38.000 You can enter under exigent circumstances, but if it's an illegitimate exigent circumstance,

00:53:43.000 there's no searching for evidence and different things like that.

00:53:48.000 So I get it, but as a cop, I see how you can't just not do anything.

00:53:53.000 What's an exogenic circumstance?

00:53:55.000 Exigent?

00:53:56.000 Exigent.

00:53:56.000 What's that?

00:53:57.000 Exigent circumstance.

00:53:58.000 Meaning that it's a circumstance in which you have to do it in a hurry.

00:54:03.000 It's a right now thing.

00:54:04.000 That means that right now I have to act.

00:54:06.000 Emergency.

00:54:07.000 It's an emergency.

00:54:08.000 I think this to me is like shows, highlights the value of local police.

00:54:12.000 Because when I was in Chile, I noticed it was all national cops everywhere.

00:54:15.000 They all have like uniforms standing on the corner.

00:54:17.000 If you get a call like this and it's only national cops, you got no reason, no one's going to be there to defend you.

00:54:21.000 At least you know your neighbors here.

00:54:23.000 What's happening right now doesn't make sense.

00:54:24.000 Like if I'm a cop and I'm hearing active shooting, guy with a gun shot two people, I'm not going to walk in here without a SWAT team, right?

00:54:33.000 Well, it depends, right?

00:54:35.000 You got to think of, like I said, exigent circumstances.

00:54:38.000 Police officers have a duty to respond immediately.

00:54:42.000 A SWAT team takes a while to assemble.

00:54:44.000 I was on a SWAT team, and we had about an hour.

00:54:47.000 If it was a full callout, a hostage situation, we still had to have enough time for everybody on the team to get their equipment and get to the location, and we had to get together to a certain degree to try to figure out what tactics we were going to use.

00:55:01.000 It takes time.

00:55:02.000 If there was a real call of two people shot, a man with a gun, they have to respond now.

00:55:08.000 Right.

00:55:08.000 And if those two officers are the only ones in the area, they have to come now.

00:55:13.000 And they have to force entry and they have to make sure everything's okay.

00:55:16.000 That speaks to the bravery of law enforcement officers because what if there was a situation like that and they were the only two here and they were going to risk their lives, potentially getting mowed down, shot and killed, ambushed.

00:55:29.000 Right.

00:55:30.000 But they had to respond anyway because there was potential loss of life that they had to rescue.

00:55:35.000 I've been hearing lately that cops don't have to respond.

00:55:38.000 Well, the Supreme Court has ruled many times if a police officer sees a crime happening, they do not have to intervene.

00:55:43.000 That's an argument in the Supreme Court.

00:55:47.000 That's not an argument that happens on the scene.

00:55:49.000 I got news.

00:55:50.000 Oh, what's the news?

00:55:51.000 They entered in direct...

00:55:55.000 Okay, hold on, I was just running around.

00:55:57.000 When they came to the door, they were told you may not enter without a warrant.

00:56:01.000 They said we're entering anyway.

00:56:03.000 Oh! 0.60

00:56:03.000 Wow. 0.60

00:56:04.000 Which is, which is lawful.

00:56:06.000 Exigent circumstances.

00:56:07.000 Right.

00:56:07.000 We can enter your property and search the premises.

00:56:10.000 I told them, with respect officers, I would like you to leave unless you have a warrant.

00:56:10.000 Right, which is what I said.

00:56:17.000 And they said, we get it, we get it.

00:56:19.000 We swept the house, we're leaving.

00:56:22.000 I don't trust it.

00:56:23.000 This is the way it's supposed to happen, right?

00:56:27.000 And you're right by saying, hey, you guys done, you need to leave.

00:56:30.000 The police officers have to check.

00:56:32.000 Because if they show up here, and there's a dead body in the room somewhere, because somebody, just say if somebody in the house called and said, And called it in.

00:56:41.000 But they actually, you know, did something to themselves.

00:56:44.000 And the cops just showed up and said, oh, there's nothing there.

00:56:46.000 The next morning, there's a dead person in the house.

00:56:48.000 Who's going to be held liable?

00:56:49.000 So a quick sweep is reasonable.

00:56:51.000 And then they have to leave.

00:56:52.000 For future reference.

00:56:53.000 Yes.

00:56:54.000 Cops ever walk in like that.

00:56:56.000 Put on the room cam.

00:56:56.000 OK.

00:56:57.000 Well, it takes me a minute to switch it over.

00:56:57.000 Yeah.

00:56:57.000 Nice.

00:56:59.000 But for sure.

00:57:00.000 Or whatever camera shows them.

00:57:00.000 Yeah.

00:57:02.000 So Brandon was talking and the cops are like walking around with flashlights.

00:57:05.000 And I'm like, I saw all their faces.

00:57:06.000 faces to everyone.

00:57:07.000 Look, what's everyone looking at?

00:57:09.000 The one cop, he like waves over to me and I'm like, no, I'm like, we're live.

00:57:14.000 What are you doing?

00:57:14.000 I thought it was a friend of yours.

00:57:16.000 I thought he knew you.

00:57:17.000 I thought he was coming to the show because I saw the door, but I'm like who's coming in during the podcast?

00:57:21.000 Well, I feel bad.

00:57:22.000 They were being nice and I understand like someone calls in and says people are dead and they're like, let's go

00:57:29.000 check it out.

00:57:30.000 And their mentality is like we're going to be protecting Tim and his house and everything.

00:57:35.000 with our lives and we don't know what's happening.

00:57:37.000 You see it was only with two of them.

00:57:39.000 Oh, three.

00:57:40.000 Oh, four or five, which is good.

00:57:41.000 Good, good, good.

00:57:42.000 Because that was the upstairs guy.

00:57:43.000 But when you brought up like there's no way they wouldn't come with gear, they wouldn't be prepared.

00:57:47.000 I think when they got here and realized everything was looking normal, they were like, okay,

00:57:51.000 let's just do a check, but it seems like a swatting, right?

00:57:55.000 The problem I have with it is, I don't want to blame the guy,

00:57:59.000 because there's a circumstance of, you know, what if someone got killed?

00:58:01.000 What if they're really in trouble?

00:58:03.000 But then the problem is, what if they can just use exigent circumstances as a pretext to come into my house?

00:58:08.000 We have, we have doormats at every door that has come back with a warrant.

00:58:11.000 That's not a joke.

00:58:12.000 So, uh, Allison, who, uh, was downstairs, they come to the door and says, you cannot come in without a warrant.

00:58:18.000 And they said, we are coming in anyway.

00:58:20.000 We have exigent circumstances.

00:58:22.000 And then I was like, cause when, when they walked in here, I'm like, who let him in?

00:58:25.000 Yeah, of course, first of all.

00:58:26.000 They let themselves in.

00:58:28.000 Yeah, but you gotta understand, too, is that, you know, they can't come here and do a search, you know what I'm saying?

00:58:34.000 They're supposed to be searching for dead bodies and a crime.

00:58:39.000 They come in, there's no crime, they leave.

00:58:42.000 They can't go snooping around.

00:58:44.000 They can't go looking in the rooms.

00:58:45.000 Exigent circumstances.

00:58:47.000 Exigent circumstances, they will have to articulate that I went and I went to this room, this room.

00:58:52.000 I saw the guy had a body on camera.

00:58:54.000 They can only go here, here, here and leave.

00:58:56.000 They can't go snooping around your property.

00:58:58.000 What if they see something illegal when they walk around?

00:59:01.000 Well, this is the thing.

00:59:02.000 Like if this was a real call and there was a real incident that occurred and they had to come in the house and they saw a bail of drugs here, They have that.

00:59:11.000 That's in plain sight.

00:59:12.000 They can actually come here and get the drugs and charge somebody with it.

00:59:18.000 What if it's an exigent call and they see?

00:59:20.000 It's the same thing.

00:59:20.000 It's in plain view.

00:59:21.000 That's why I'm calling BS.

00:59:24.000 We don't do anything like that here.

00:59:26.000 However, if it's a swatting...

00:59:28.000 None of that, I don't think any of that will hold up in a court of law.

00:59:31.000 If it's a fake call to somebody's house, and the police were here, and then they see something, I don't think it'll hold up in a court of law.

00:59:37.000 Are they going hard on this guy that swatted?

00:59:39.000 Yeah, that's a felony crime.

00:59:41.000 You can do like 20 years in prison for swatting.

00:59:44.000 It's a very serious crime.

00:59:47.000 Look, man.

00:59:48.000 I said it was 2022.

00:59:49.000 I'm like, they are going to be going hard against everybody.

00:59:53.000 You're going to be harassed.

00:59:54.000 You're going to be censored.

00:59:54.000 You're going to be smeared.

00:59:57.000 But I don't think the cops were involved.

00:59:59.000 I think somebody was swatted.

01:00:00.000 Exactly.

01:00:01.000 No, I'm saying whoever swatted us.

01:00:04.000 That's the pressure they want to put on the house.

01:00:06.000 But imagine what you were saying.

01:00:09.000 There's a lot of people.

01:00:10.000 What's that book?

01:00:11.000 You commit three felonies a day or whatever.

01:00:12.000 Yeah.

01:00:13.000 So, you know, maybe someone here did something dumb and then we get swatted and the cops walk in.

01:00:18.000 They're like, oh, look, the cat's doing a backflip on Sunday.

01:00:21.000 That's illegal.

01:00:22.000 And things like that.

01:00:23.000 Just another thing.

01:00:24.000 Are phone calls exigent circumstances?

01:00:27.000 Could they be ruled out just because someone called and said something?

01:00:29.000 Yeah, it just depends, man.

01:00:31.000 Like, when I was a police officer, we used to have these 911 hang-ups.

01:00:35.000 And those are the most dangerous calls because you don't know why a person hung up.

01:00:39.000 If you get enough information and it's reasonable to believe that there could be something there, you have to check.

01:00:44.000 Because you may get here, and two people shot and killed in a house, and a person barricading themselves is not going to make any noise.

01:00:51.000 And this is house is confusing, you know, so you know, you know, somebody can be somewhere and I'll tell you for people who don't know this house is a maze.

01:00:59.000 It's like, I don't know where I'm at.

01:01:01.000 It's not easier than it was before.

01:01:03.000 It's not the craziest, but it's funny how people get lost here.

01:01:05.000 And I don't realize I'm like, wow, they got lost.

01:01:07.000 I've been here before and I don't know where I'm at.

01:01:09.000 Yeah, because there's two different studio rooms.

01:01:11.000 There's like five floors. 0.98

01:01:13.000 It's a ridiculous building. 0.97

01:01:14.000 There's a sub-basement, a basement, a first, second, third floor. 0.97

01:01:16.000 We have a new attic.

01:01:18.000 And when you're going up to the studio, there's actually like a fork in the road.

01:01:22.000 And people usually go the wrong way and end up in the wrong room.

01:01:25.000 And then they get confused.

01:01:26.000 It's too dark.

01:01:27.000 And they're like, where's the light?

01:01:28.000 But that's good for me because I was thinking about if someone broke in here, I was like, well, you know, when we're going over our plan for our security protocols, because we've, we've had these, these threats before.

01:01:37.000 And I, and I was, as I was going through it, I was like, wow, I just realized a person who comes in this house will get lost.

01:01:44.000 Because what people need to understand is there's a lot of people who are like, Tim's got a giant million dollar mansion.

01:01:49.000 It's an office building.

01:01:50.000 Like the second floor is a bunch of desks and computers for editing work.

01:01:53.000 One of the bedrooms, it's an equipment room with shelves and a computer.

01:01:56.000 Right, yeah.

01:01:57.000 And here's the silver lining in this.

01:01:58.000 there's actual and then a music studio this is a place where people work not a

01:02:02.000 place where people live right right so that you're walking into a 10,000

01:02:06.000 square foot office building in the shape of a house basically right yeah and

01:02:10.000 here's what here's the silver lining in this now the police officers know who

01:02:14.000 you are hopefully you have a conversation with them They know what you do for a living.

01:02:17.000 And now if they get another call, they like, okay, slow down.

01:02:21.000 Let me call because you can give them your phone number.

01:02:25.000 They'll call you and say, Hey, we got a call.

01:02:27.000 Are you, is everything okay there?

01:02:28.000 And you're like, yeah, they, they, you know, it's no big deal.

01:02:31.000 Another thing I think would be good is to put cameras in here so you can see what's going on.

01:02:35.000 Well, we do!

01:02:37.000 Can you switch to the room camera real quick?

01:02:39.000 Yeah, hold on, let me change it.

01:02:40.000 So we've actually got a PTZ camera that can basically sweep the whole room.

01:02:47.000 It's actually pretty good.

01:02:48.000 Look at this.

01:02:49.000 So that's why we didn't... I wish we had it ready to go.

01:02:51.000 Well, no, I think if we knew.

01:02:53.000 Like, no one expected cops to walk into the studio.

01:02:56.000 But for future reference, we see someone, let's get the camera on them.

01:02:59.000 I have to say they did a pretty decent job, man.

01:03:02.000 Nobody pulled a gun.

01:03:05.000 You know, when I was a cop and we searched houses, we had our guns out.

01:03:09.000 And we were, you know, it was way more intense than that.

01:03:11.000 But maybe they caught on to say, oh, this is nothing going on here.

01:03:14.000 Well, we're in the middle of nowhere.

01:03:16.000 So when you're in a city and you're in a house with 50 houses and hundreds of people,

01:03:22.000 those cops are probably like, if this person's armed, they could hurt their neighbors.

01:03:25.000 We're out in the middle of nowhere.

01:03:27.000 Literally, like, it's just trees everywhere.

01:03:29.000 The cops here are probably like, well, if they are locked in their house, they ain't going anywhere.

01:03:33.000 There's nobody around them.

01:03:34.000 So we'll get there as fast as we can and we'll check it out.

01:03:37.000 It's less of a dire circumstance as opposed to being a dense population.

01:03:40.000 Yeah, somebody must have called as if they were in the house.

01:03:43.000 That's what he said.

01:03:44.000 Because if it's an external person that don't have current information in the house, It's not safe for cops to just bombard in.

01:03:52.000 It's better for them to make announcements and not hostage negotiate and stuff like that.

01:03:56.000 But unless somebody's bleeding out and then you got that whole thing.

01:03:59.000 Whoever did it wanted it to happen during the show.

01:04:01.000 Wanted attention too.

01:04:02.000 That's what they always do.

01:04:03.000 They wanted to send a message, obviously.

01:04:05.000 And they're probably watching, going like, ha ha, we did it.

01:04:08.000 But they didn't do anything.

01:04:09.000 And if they get found, they're going to go to prison.

01:04:11.000 It's a felony crime.

01:04:12.000 I have a feeling that they won't be found.

01:04:14.000 That's just my personal perspective.

01:04:16.000 It's so easy to spoof.

01:04:17.000 It's like...

01:04:18.000 They might.

01:04:19.000 They might.

01:04:20.000 You never know.

01:04:20.000 With technology, the way the technology is today, they got... Well, the NSA knows everything, but they don't share everything unless it works in their personal benefit.

01:04:28.000 Right.

01:04:28.000 Plus, it's January 6th.

01:04:29.000 I'm like, who knows what lies, what manipulations?

01:04:33.000 But I'm just saying, 2022, man, the censorship, the smears, the swatting, the fear tactics, the establishment does not want... I'll say, I keep telling people, vote in the primaries.

01:04:46.000 Oh, you have to.

01:04:47.000 Local and in a primary.

01:04:48.000 But that is the scariest thing, because that's their secret.

01:04:51.000 The Republicans and the Democrats know that their worst case scenario, for the most part, is even if they vote for the other party, we're winning the primaries, and the establishment will still be in power.

01:05:03.000 So when we come out on our shows, your show, our show, whatever show, and we say, vote in the primaries, they're like, uh-oh, that's the secret.

01:05:08.000 That's where you actually can get rid of the neocons and the neolibs.

01:05:12.000 That's where it changed over.

01:05:13.000 You don't have to wait four years.

01:05:14.000 You can get them in the primary and make sure you vote local.

01:05:18.000 You know, we, a lot of people are so worried about these federal elections that they are, the leftists are taking over in local elections.

01:05:26.000 They're taking over the school board.

01:05:28.000 They're taking over all of these local elections, city council.

01:05:32.000 and they're running the city from within, you may have a Republican Senator, but the state-level

01:05:38.000 politicians are all Democrats. And so then when election time comes around and things like that,

01:05:43.000 who's monitoring that? It's going to be the people that's on a state level.

01:05:46.000 And so I think that we need to vote in and out of season.

01:05:51.000 Like you have to vote.

01:05:52.000 You have to get involved.

01:05:53.000 You have to be a part of the process.

01:05:55.000 You know, me and my wife, we made it a promise this year that we're going to be more a part of the process.

01:05:59.000 We can't just sit back and just talk.

01:06:02.000 We got to be, we got to know what's going on.

01:06:03.000 We got to endorse the right candidates.

01:06:05.000 We have to support candidates, fund them if we can.

01:06:08.000 We have to be active or we're going to get steamrolled.

01:06:11.000 Just really quick, because a lot of people are asking in the comment section.

01:06:13.000 Everyone's fine.

01:06:14.000 Everyone's safe.

01:06:15.000 I'm talking to people in the house on the phone.

01:06:16.000 Every animal's safe.

01:06:17.000 Nothing happened.

01:06:18.000 Luckily, we were able to avoid anyone getting seriously hurt.

01:06:22.000 So we were very lucky.

01:06:24.000 And everyone's okay, and everyone's safe.

01:06:26.000 I was, you know, after you mentioned, like, why would they just come two guys?

01:06:30.000 I was like, I need to go tell them to get out.

01:06:32.000 Because they were, when I talked to them, they were like, we're gonna go or whatever.

01:06:36.000 And then I thought, no, I need to see them at the door.

01:06:38.000 I need to make sure that I say to them, I don't want them here.

01:06:40.000 I don't approve of them being here.

01:06:41.000 I don't approve of any searches.

01:06:43.000 And they didn't do any extensive kind of searching.

01:06:45.000 They just walked through the house and walked out.

01:06:46.000 And then when I went down, I was like, who let them in? 0.95

01:06:49.000 And people were like, no, actually, we denied them entry.

01:06:51.000 And so I'm like, all right.

01:06:52.000 You know, I think we did the best we could do in the circumstances.

01:06:55.000 It kind of feels like an inoculation.

01:06:57.000 They're like, OK, we know you, Tim.

01:06:58.000 They know us.

01:06:59.000 Some of the cops watch the show in the town.

01:07:01.000 They said that?

01:07:02.000 I've been told, Andreas told me once that one of the cops, he met a cop and he was like, yeah, I watch the show.

01:07:05.000 It's awesome.

01:07:06.000 I think they're familiar.

01:07:07.000 They know that there's going to be effort.

01:07:11.000 This is the challenge.

01:07:12.000 This is the challenge with cops.

01:07:13.000 I feel, I empathize with them, especially if they're keeping us safe.

01:07:18.000 We do, yeah.

01:07:18.000 In the event some lunatic could actually come here and then make that phone call and they're

01:07:22.000 going to be like, what if it literally is some crazy psychopath wants to go and screw 0.99

01:07:27.000 up the show and hurt people? 0.71

01:07:29.000 We need their help.

01:07:30.000 So the one time they do come in, I don't want to be the boy who cried wolf.

01:07:33.000 Next time something bad happens, I'm like, guys, no, for real, this is me and this is

01:07:36.000 happening.

01:07:37.000 They're going to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:38.000 We're not falling for that again. 0.99

01:07:39.000 And you don't want to be a jerk to them. 0.99

01:07:40.000 I don't want it to happen. 0.99

01:07:41.000 And you don't want to be a jerk to them either. 0.99

01:07:42.000 I think that that wouldn't matter. 0.99

01:07:43.000 It'd still save your life. 0.99

01:07:44.000 But you don't want to be a jerk to him. 0.99

01:07:47.000 Communication is the best thing. 0.99

01:07:49.000 That's the hard thing.

01:07:49.000 I think communication is the best thing.

01:07:52.000 Have an opportunity to get the officer's badge number, get communication with the officers, and set up a contingency plan and say, look, this is what we do here.

01:08:00.000 This is where I'm located.

01:08:03.000 Could we have a secret code where if we call something in, only we know a certain passphrase?

01:08:10.000 It's hard to get through the dispatch like that, but they could put... On our system, and I think the system is probably generally the same across the board, Your address has a flag on it, right?

01:08:21.000 So in the system, it'll say that this house was swatted.

01:08:24.000 They could write that down in the system.

01:08:25.000 They could say this person is a podcaster.

01:08:26.000 They could have a special note for this address.

01:08:29.000 So therefore, when a call comes in to the dispatch, the dispatch runs the address and the address has a flag on it.

01:08:34.000 And they go, okay, they'll tell the officers, this person is a podcaster.

01:08:37.000 We've been there before for swatting.

01:08:39.000 You know, here's the person's phone number.

01:08:42.000 So an officer can try to contact a contact here first before they show up and it becomes violent.

01:08:47.000 If they contact the contact here and you say, no, it's a real deal, we need your help, it's better to have relationships with police than to leave it up to chance because it could go south and you don't want to be on the opposite side.

01:08:59.000 We had to do this with the last place we lived at.

01:09:01.000 So those cops were awesome.

01:09:03.000 And I went to the department and we talked politics and we had a laugh.

01:09:06.000 And I told them, just so you guys know, we were like a block away.

01:09:09.000 So I just want to say, like, what I was trying to convey is, you know, and I was like, with respect, you know, I understand why you guys are here, but I would appreciate it if you would leave.

01:09:16.000 I don't approve of any search with, you know, unless you have a warrant.

01:09:19.000 And they were like, okay, all right, you know, we get it.

01:09:21.000 And the truth is they probably...

01:09:24.000 Just imagine if they found something in here.

01:09:27.000 You know how long an investigation will take?

01:09:29.000 No cop wants to do that. 0.97

01:09:30.000 They don't want nothing to do with this.

01:09:32.000 They don't even want to be here.

01:09:33.000 I mean, the average cop would be like, okay, you gotta tell me twice.

01:09:38.000 You good?

01:09:38.000 We good?

01:09:39.000 I'm getting out of here.

01:09:39.000 I'm ready to go hang out somewhere.

01:09:40.000 This is one of the reasons why we're moving to West Virginia, too.

01:09:44.000 I don't trust Maryland's laws on self-defense.

01:09:46.000 I don't trust this state.

01:09:48.000 And while I live in West Virginia, we set up production right on the other side of the river, which is in Maryland.

01:09:53.000 So there's the one thing that concerns me is or that I find disconcerting and just does concern me and everybody here actually If this is a if this is you know If you're gonna raid somewhere if you're gonna hurt someone the smartest thing an evil person would do is swat us You know, I get the cops to relax get them to think.

01:10:12.000 Oh, it's just a swatting So the next time this happens, they get a report of something crazy going on.

01:10:16.000 They're gonna be like, let's slow down guys It's probably BS and it gives the bad guy more time, right?

01:10:21.000 And if they're targeting us, they know that So, you know, we're armed here, but we are limited to a certain degree based on what Maryland does allow, but Maryland allows enough.

01:10:31.000 I'll put it that way.

01:10:31.000 More than enough.

01:10:32.000 West Virginia allows way more.

01:10:35.000 Yeah.

01:10:36.000 That's why I live in Arizona.

01:10:37.000 Constitutional carry.

01:10:39.000 I got all kind of stuff and I got it everywhere.

01:10:41.000 So somebody come in my house, it'd be like 4th of July.

01:10:44.000 It's going to be a light show.

01:10:45.000 Are you on really good terms with the cops in the area?

01:10:47.000 Oh yeah, they know me.

01:10:48.000 All of them follow me on social media, you know.

01:10:50.000 So they know me.

01:10:52.000 You know, the funny thing is my alarm went off and my son didn't know the code to disarm it.

01:10:56.000 And the alarm goes off, man, the cops show up thinking it's a burglary call.

01:11:01.000 And they end up seeing me at the front door and they're like, Officer Tatum?

01:11:06.000 So I'm like, yo, put this address down.

01:11:07.000 This is where I live.

01:11:09.000 So just in case something happens, you know it's me.

01:11:11.000 Do you get down with the fire department too?

01:11:13.000 Do you hang out with the firemen?

01:11:15.000 Yeah, my best friend is a firefighter in the Phoenix Valley.

01:11:18.000 Yeah, we cool.

01:11:19.000 My dad was a firefighter.

01:11:20.000 Oh yeah, me too.

01:11:20.000 My dad retired.

01:11:22.000 He retired as the chief of Waco Fire.

01:11:24.000 Oh, nice.

01:11:25.000 Oh yeah, Waco.

01:11:26.000 We used to have firemen, police picnics and stuff. 0.96

01:11:29.000 Yeah, we talk trash every day. 0.92

01:11:30.000 Of course. 0.99

01:11:31.000 We talk trash. 0.99

01:11:31.000 I call them the second responders. 0.99

01:11:34.000 Hey, what's this book behind you?

01:11:36.000 We haven't mentioned it yet.

01:11:37.000 I've been looking at it throughout the show.

01:11:38.000 It's my book, Beating Black and Blue, Being a Black Cop in America Under Siege.

01:11:42.000 I wrote a book about policing in America, this very thing, you know, trying to make sure that there's education on policing in America with the defund the police movement, with police brutality, what's a justified shooting, what's not.

01:11:55.000 I interviewed five police officers in the book.

01:11:57.000 To give their experiences of what it's like being a police officer today, you know in society today with all the craziness that's going on and and at the end of the book we give solutions.

01:12:05.000 So that's one of the one of my prouder moments of 2021 was publishing it.

01:12:10.000 Where's the best place for people to get it?

01:12:12.000 Amazon.

01:12:13.000 Cool.

01:12:13.000 So you go on Amazon be black and blue put it in there and it was when I launched it was number one bestseller.

01:12:19.000 I have a question.

01:12:20.000 Number one new release.

01:12:21.000 Well, do you think we should make robot cops?

01:12:23.000 No.

01:12:25.000 It's something about personal relationships.

01:12:28.000 It's something about human-to-human interaction.

01:12:31.000 You don't want the cops to be letter of the law.

01:12:34.000 You want them to be letter and spirit of the law.

01:12:36.000 And like those cops that came here, you know, they have emotions and, you know, maybe they can perceptualize things a little better than a computer would.

01:12:43.000 But you do want to connect.

01:12:44.000 You know, I think it's invaluable for community policing and community policing to be a part of policing in the community.

01:12:53.000 You know, the bond together.

01:12:55.000 Because if we had the adequate amount of police officers, we funded our police officers like we should, we would have so many more productive relationships.

01:13:04.000 And because police aren't bad.

01:13:06.000 They are not inherently bad.

01:13:10.000 And what they do is not bad.

01:13:11.000 It's just that it's such a big miscommunication.

01:13:15.000 What about the cops in New York City and other major areas that are enforcing lockdowns and shutting down small businesses while they allow Walmart and Amazon to be open?

01:13:23.000 Well, you gotta think of it like this.

01:13:24.000 You say, who's bad?

01:13:26.000 The officer that's doing it, or the system, or the governor, or the mayor?

01:13:29.000 But they wouldn't be able to do it without the officers following orders.

01:13:32.000 I'm an individualist, I'm not a collectivist.

01:13:34.000 Right, so this is the way I look at it.

01:13:36.000 I say, let's make sure we're talking about the same thing.

01:13:39.000 If an officer is arresting a person for trespassing because a private business has rights, I'm cool with that.

01:13:44.000 I don't believe it's right.

01:13:46.000 That a municipality enforces mandates on shutting down a business.

01:13:52.000 Now, I don't know the nuances.

01:13:53.000 I don't know what leverage police officers have.

01:13:55.000 Are they just giving tickets?

01:13:56.000 Are they forcing people out?

01:13:58.000 What are they actually doing?

01:13:59.000 I don't know.

01:13:59.000 They're putting people in camps in Australia.

01:14:01.000 But that's Australia.

01:14:02.000 That's not here.

01:14:03.000 I don't agree with what's happening there.

01:14:05.000 In New York City, an unvaxxed guy walks into a Burger King, and they say, you can't order, unless you have your vax card, you gotta leave.

01:14:11.000 He says, no, I wanna be served.

01:14:13.000 They say, you're trespassing.

01:14:14.000 The cops come in.

01:14:15.000 The cops say, you're trespassing now, and we're gonna arrest you.

01:14:18.000 But the only reason they're trespassing is because they're unvaccinated. 0.96

01:14:21.000 No, you gotta think from a police perspective.

01:14:23.000 You're right according to the business, but according to the police, it doesn't matter what the business is doing.

01:14:28.000 It's just a matter of, have you been asked a reasonable request to leave?

01:14:31.000 It just seems like the cops enforcing vaccination with extra steps.

01:14:34.000 No, no, no.

01:14:35.000 I don't think the cops have anything to do with that.

01:14:37.000 You know, the cops are responding because a business asked the person to leave and they refused to.

01:14:41.000 This could be a mask mandate.

01:14:43.000 But the business doesn't want you to leave.

01:14:44.000 The business wants you to buy a cheeseburger.

01:14:46.000 No, but they want you to leave.

01:14:48.000 They don't.

01:14:49.000 So a lot of these businesses will straight up say like, we're not the ones doing this.

01:14:53.000 The city's making us.

01:14:55.000 So if the police, if the police are enforcers of the state and the state is telling the business, you better kick them out.

01:15:01.000 Otherwise we'll punish you.

01:15:02.000 Then you can't go to back to the state and be like, okay, now kick them out.

01:15:05.000 But it's not your fault because you're a different state actor.

01:15:07.000 No, no, no.

01:15:07.000 It's the state.

01:15:08.000 Well, no, I understand, but we have laws that we voted on.

01:15:11.000 And so if we want things to change, we need to change those laws.

01:15:14.000 We need to change the power that we give governors and mayors.

01:15:16.000 But it's decrees.

01:15:17.000 It's not even laws.

01:15:18.000 It's politicians saying, I decree your small business gets shut down and police officers come and fine you and steal your wealth and steal your business license and make you shut down while we're going to allow all these other big corporations to be open.

01:15:32.000 And this is because I said so.

01:15:33.000 And cops are like, yep, got it.

01:15:35.000 What do you want the cops to do?

01:15:37.000 Say no.

01:15:38.000 Say no.

01:15:38.000 This is a decree.

01:15:39.000 This is not a law.

01:15:40.000 This wasn't passed democratically.

01:15:42.000 This wasn't something that we agreed upon through our system.

01:15:45.000 You're going above and beyond the system.

01:15:47.000 You're abusing your power.

01:15:48.000 You can only enforce this power if I do it.

01:15:50.000 So I'm going to say no.

01:15:51.000 I'm going to hold myself responsible to the letter of the law.

01:15:53.000 I want to believe you.

01:15:54.000 I want to go down that path with you.

01:15:56.000 I agree to a certain degree.

01:15:58.000 But at the same time, there's laws on the books.

01:16:00.000 So if You've given the mayor, the governor's power to enforce certain things.

01:16:06.000 You may disagree with him.

01:16:07.000 It's not up to the police officer to say, I agree, I disagree.

01:16:11.000 The police officer is supposed to act on what is the actual law.

01:16:14.000 What authority do the mayor or the governor have according to the law?

01:16:18.000 Now, if you're violating the law in the constitution, then I would agree that police officers should not participate in that.

01:16:25.000 It's gotta be obvious.

01:16:26.000 It can't be ambiguous.

01:16:27.000 Alright, so let's say I live in New Jersey and I take my 30-30 Winchester Repeater on a sling and I walk down the street and a cop walks up and says, felony, you're going to prison and arrests me.

01:16:40.000 Is that cop wrong to do that?

01:16:43.000 I'm not sure.

01:16:44.000 What's the law?

01:16:45.000 Well, the Constitution says I have the right to keep and bear arms.

01:16:48.000 Right.

01:16:48.000 So, this is the problem with us voting for certain things.

01:16:52.000 Well, you can't vote away my constitutional rights.

01:16:55.000 But we have and we have accepted it.

01:16:56.000 They're inalienable.

01:16:57.000 No, no, no.

01:16:58.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:16:59.000 A lot of us haven't.

01:17:00.000 No, no.

01:17:01.000 If a person... Now, I know a lot of us have.

01:17:03.000 I would never vote for gun restriction at all.

01:17:06.000 But the way we have our system is that maybe people don't agree, but the majority voted, and that's how it gets passed.

01:17:11.000 That's the point of the Constitution.

01:17:13.000 Right, but this is what I'm saying.

01:17:14.000 To prevent.

01:17:15.000 I agree with you to a certain degree.

01:17:18.000 I wish we didn't have any of those things in, but we're inconsistent with the way we apply these things.

01:17:23.000 If a person murdered 20 people, went to prison for 20 years, got out, And they're a prohibited possessor.

01:17:30.000 Is that right?

01:17:31.000 I'm saying, but as a society, we've accepted that as reasonable.

01:17:39.000 There's been a few instances of evolution on my position.

01:17:44.000 First was I was like, no, I think if you do your time, you get your guns back.

01:17:47.000 And then people correctly noted that the Constitution, your rights can be curtailed through due process, which means if you are a violent felon, part of due process is you can no longer have a weapon that is constitutional.

01:17:58.000 And I said, actually, yeah, that actually is true.

01:18:01.000 It's in the Constitution.

01:18:02.000 But for a 60-year-old woman to have a snub nose, you know, 38 or something, and for a cop to be like, she belongs in prison, I don't care what the Constitution says. 1.00

01:18:14.000 But a cop, you gotta think, a cop doesn't make that decision, that decision is made in a court of law.

01:18:17.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:18:19.000 A cop has discretion.

01:18:20.000 A cop has discretion how he wants to enforce the laws or not.

01:18:23.000 No, no, you don't.

01:18:24.000 He has discretion.

01:18:25.000 The Supreme Court's actually ruled on this.

01:18:26.000 Okay, no.

01:18:28.000 An officer, okay, just say this person murdered another person.

01:18:32.000 Can an officer walk up and say, I'm not arresting you because I don't want to arrest you. 0.91

01:18:35.000 You murdered a pedophile, so I'm not going to arrest you.

01:18:37.000 You don't, there's certain things you have discretion on, there's certain things you don't have discretion on.

01:18:41.000 Right?

01:18:41.000 A speeding ticket you can have a discretion on.

01:18:45.000 Criminal law, you're to enforce that law.

01:18:48.000 There was a really big story in New York that Luke covered and interviewed the guy.

01:18:51.000 The Supreme Court, I think it was, right?

01:18:53.000 The Supreme Court actually said the cops have no obligation to enforce the law.

01:18:56.000 That's not, but that's not applied on the street level.

01:18:58.000 That's applied... Well, it's a choice.

01:19:00.000 No, no, that's applied when you have to challenge these things in the court of law.

01:19:04.000 That's not applied on the street.

01:19:05.000 Well, my friend Joe Lizito was attacked by a serial murderer who was on a killing spree.

01:19:12.000 He was able to stop him.

01:19:13.000 Police officers were watching the whole time standing by looking as the whole thing happened the police officers knew that there was a serial killer on the loose they saw him attack kill people they saw him stabbing people police officers with firearms with batons two of them It's decided to stand behind and hide and not be seen as Joe Lizito a man who is is a hero who stopped a mass murderer he used techniques that he saw on the UFC took him down disabled his knife after being stabbed in the head almost losing his life.

01:19:45.000 And after that only after the knife was was thrown away ... after this this this killer was was finally subdued then ... the police officers came out put handcuffs on him and they ... waited a long time Joel is it almost bled out because of that ... long wait and then on the national news they had police ... officers save man from serial killer calling him a victim ... which was an utter disgrace Joel is you don't sue the ... police officer said how am I a victim when I stop this guy ...

01:20:13.000 On their hands, not doing anything.

01:20:15.000 Who was considered the victim?

01:20:16.000 Joe Lizito, the guy who took him down, the guy who almost lost his life, the guy who almost bled out because the police officers were waiting to get backup, even though they had him subdued and handcuffed.

01:20:24.000 And Joe Lizito sued the NYPD saying, you besmirched my name, you lied about me, you didn't help me, you were watching me getting stabbed.

01:20:32.000 And the police officers argued, we have no duty to protect and serve you.

01:20:35.000 And the court in New York upheld that ruling.

01:20:38.000 Are those officers still on duty?

01:20:40.000 Yeah, they were promoted by Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

01:20:42.000 They were seen as heroes by the corporate media.

01:20:44.000 Right.

01:20:44.000 This is one thing I'll have to do.

01:20:46.000 I can't speak to that.

01:20:47.000 That sounds like the craziest thing I've ever heard.

01:20:49.000 I've never heard of a case like that.

01:20:50.000 Now, I'll take your word for it.

01:20:52.000 I had to look it up.

01:20:52.000 No, no.

01:20:52.000 I did a whole video about this.

01:20:55.000 I'll let you even talk to Joel Izzito if you want to.

01:20:57.000 I would have to watch it and go through it before I can make a comment.

01:21:00.000 I have never in my life saw a police officer or even heard of a police officer in any of the connective agencies that we've been a part of, we train with, that will ever Use that as a measuring stick of how they enforce law or how they participate in saving and protecting people.

01:21:17.000 In my department, there was a order that's called cowardice.

01:21:22.000 You cannot show cowardice or you will be fired.

01:21:24.000 It doesn't matter what the Constitution say.

01:21:27.000 So I'm saying if it end up in a constitutional law, maybe they'll determine it.

01:21:31.000 Have you ever seen a, uh, when you were an officer, have you ever, have you or are you, uh, ever witnessed, have you ever witnessed or have you seen someone with say an illegal amount of pot and been like, get out of here, kid.

01:21:42.000 I don't care about that.

01:21:43.000 I've never done that.

01:21:43.000 But have you seen other cops?

01:21:44.000 I've heard of cops doing it.

01:21:45.000 I know of cops that do it in Chicago all the time.

01:21:48.000 I also know that when I was arrested, because me and my brother got attacked physically,

01:21:53.000 and I tried calling 911, the guys attacking us turned my phone off and then called the

01:21:57.000 cops on us.

01:21:58.000 And when the cops showed up, I said, we've got evidence they attacked us.

01:22:01.000 I don't care.

01:22:02.000 I can't do a cross-complaint. 0.94

01:22:03.000 They're not getting arrested.

01:22:04.000 The police have a right to choose what they decide.

01:22:07.000 And personally in my life... It's called probable cause.

01:22:11.000 So a police can't... This is the thing, like...

01:22:15.000 If a police officer sees a crime committed, he has to act on that crime.

01:22:19.000 You're sworn to do that, to hold the Constitution and the law.

01:22:23.000 And the Constitution says you have a right to keep and bear arms.

01:22:24.000 No, yeah, I understand that.

01:22:26.000 So they're not doing that?

01:22:27.000 I agree with what you're saying, but we have laws on the books like you just explained.

01:22:31.000 A person who is a felon who murdered 20 people or something.

01:22:34.000 Let me give you a better example.

01:22:34.000 Somebody gets out of prison.

01:22:35.000 Know what I'm saying?

01:22:36.000 A felon gets out of prison, and on his record, he's a prohibited possessor.

01:22:39.000 A cop catches him going into a school with a gun in his pocket, They're going to arrest him for being in illegal possession of a firearm.

01:22:47.000 How about the Jewish schools in New York, which have a First Amendment right to practice their religion, and the cops were going and filming them and then fining people and welding... Welding the parks closed so the kids couldn't play in them. 0.51

01:22:58.000 How about when they were going to churches and synagogues and telling people you're not allowed to worship?

01:23:03.000 They're not upholding their oath to the Constitution.

01:23:05.000 Now, I want to make sure there's a distinction here.

01:23:06.000 When we were in the Philly suburbs, our suburb cops were fantastic.

01:23:10.000 We didn't deal with that.

01:23:11.000 Because when you have a smaller department, and these people are, these cops are members of the community, things seem to work a whole lot better than when you have a large, heavily dense area where the cops don't know you and don't care about you.

01:23:23.000 But every day in New York City, they violate the Constitution, outright.

01:23:27.000 There's no question.

01:23:28.000 And I'm not disagreeing with that, but here's the nuance that I see in this, and I think people should think about this for a minute.

01:23:36.000 You know, there's people that actually believe that if you don't put on a mask, that you're killing people.

01:23:44.000 Just imagine if this was the swine flu or Ebola.

01:23:48.000 Would it be out of the ordinary for governors to mandate that there's a curfew if Ebola was out and people were dying in mass amounts because they weren't protected or because they were crowding in places?

01:24:00.000 I think most people would be like, okay, that makes sense.

01:24:03.000 If the businesses were shut down and they said you cannot open up a business because Ebola is spreading everywhere, you have to shut this down.

01:24:09.000 If In fact, that was the case.

01:24:12.000 Many people would not argue the constitutionality of a governor doing that.

01:24:15.000 But that's a hypothetical that wasn't the case.

01:24:17.000 No, no, no, hold on.

01:24:18.000 Think about that for two seconds.

01:24:20.000 People would willingly be like, you are right, I won't open my business.

01:24:23.000 They don't need a government to tell them to do it when they're watching hemorrhagic fever kill people.

01:24:27.000 No, but what I'm saying is that the governor has the power to Enforce these things or to order these things in an emergency situation the power that we gave governors to do in an emergency the difference is We'd at least I don't believe that this is Ebola.

01:24:43.000 I don't believe we should be doing any of this, right?

01:24:45.000 This is my belief However, there are people on the spectrum that are that believe wholeheartedly that if you don't have two of them on your face that you're gonna kill people and people are dying and Overloading the hospitals and so governors in New York and governors in some of these left-wing areas are enforcing Decrees things not by law and also governors in Arizona and in Florida are not I want to I want to mention just based off what we just went through with these with getting swatted and it wasn't the most intense SWAT team didn't kick our door in a bunch of cops just came in we said no and they swept the property and

01:25:23.000 I think if more leftists understood what this is like, it would be a very important thing for them to understand.

01:25:32.000 These cops were not mean to us.

01:25:34.000 They came and we didn't want them to.

01:25:36.000 We do have fears about people breaking in here, and we do talk to the cops, and we have talked to the cops, just about... We've had issues in the past.

01:25:47.000 We call the cops and talk to them.

01:25:48.000 And so I'm sitting here as like, I don't necessarily trust them to come in here

01:25:53.000 without a warrant.

01:25:54.000 I don't know what they're doing or why.

01:25:56.000 You know, every lawyer worth their weight will tell you don't talk to cops.

01:26:00.000 But I also appreciate that they just tried to save our lives.

01:26:03.000 That someone called them and said, Tim Pool's house, workspace, people are dead there.

01:26:08.000 And these cops rushed in and said, out of my way, there could be people hurt here.

01:26:11.000 It could have been me.

01:26:13.000 These cops were like, I don't care who you are, what you're saying.

01:26:15.000 For all they know, Antifa or some crackpot, you know, conspiracy person.

01:26:20.000 broke in here with their friends, hurt us, and now they're standing there saying, don't worry, officer, everything's fine, you don't need to come in, you have a warrant, and the cops are gonna be like, I don't care what you say if we get a report about this.

01:26:29.000 So it's a difficult position, right?

01:26:31.000 Yeah, and they're willing to die for you.

01:26:33.000 They're not willing to show up here just to do a patty cake with you.

01:26:37.000 They're willing to die, man.

01:26:39.000 Cops are dying every day in situations like this, and they don't, they didn't, I don't believe, they batted an eye.

01:26:44.000 They came up here and they was willing to die For the sake of you and anybody else in this in this building and the same people that we are saying in some of these cases you see in New York where they're questionable about their enforcement and some of these laws.

01:26:58.000 They are the same ones that are still out protecting people with their lives every day and getting murdered.

01:27:03.000 So I want us to balance the perspective here.

01:27:06.000 We may disagree and I think these things will find their way out in court because it's not very clear if this is a violation of the Constitution.

01:27:13.000 At least the private business is saying you have to show a vaccination card.

01:27:18.000 Experiencing this, I think, is good for the left and the right.

01:27:21.000 I think, you know, a lot of the perspective on policing is that people on the left who are in big cities deal with cops all the time.

01:27:28.000 And people who are in rural areas don't really deal with cops all the time.

01:27:31.000 They might see them in passing, but they probably know the officers.

01:27:33.000 There's very few.

01:27:36.000 So, for me, I'm just saying, you know, we have someone mentioned that you're wearing a do not comply shirt, but you're also defending cops.

01:27:42.000 It's because I'm smart enough to know that there's nuances.

01:27:45.000 That's exactly it.

01:27:46.000 Like, do not comply with tyranny.

01:27:47.000 But you need to, like, they're just, that's like saying George Floyd.

01:27:50.000 Should George Floyd have complied?

01:27:52.000 I mean, yeah.

01:27:53.000 I think he would have never been under the guy's knee if he would have.

01:27:55.000 Should, you know, any of these people who are running from the police, should they have complied?

01:28:00.000 Yes.

01:28:00.000 Just because I have a do not comply shirt don't mean I'm telling you do not comply with the lawful order.

01:28:04.000 Right, right. 0.97

01:28:05.000 But people are too ignorant to understand that there's two sides to this. 0.98

01:28:09.000 Some people. 0.99

01:28:10.000 Some people.

01:28:11.000 Not everybody.

01:28:11.000 This is the point I'm trying to get across.

01:28:13.000 Like, I'm torn on this one.

01:28:14.000 I'm not right.

01:28:14.000 I'm not left.

01:28:15.000 I'm not anti-cop.

01:28:16.000 I'm not pro-cop.

01:28:17.000 I'm worried the police can use this as a pretext to enter my home without a warrant and mess with me.

01:28:23.000 I'm also worried that we've got very serious security threats.

01:28:26.000 We've got a security system installed.

01:28:28.000 We've had multiple security companies come out.

01:28:30.000 We're in the process of onboarding some security people.

01:28:32.000 And these cops are willing to come in here, rush in, to save us.

01:28:37.000 So it's like, it's basically do you trust them or not?

01:28:41.000 It's a difficult position to be in, right?

01:28:42.000 I think it's fair to say you can trust them because you also gotta understand they're only one part of the justice system.

01:28:48.000 They can come in here and if you believe they did something unlawful, there's a process to that.

01:28:54.000 They are not gonna convict you in a court of law.

01:28:56.000 The police can't.

01:28:57.000 They can arrest you based on probable cause, but then you have an opportunity to defend yourself in a court of law.

01:29:02.000 Just like if they came in here and they found something illegal.

01:29:04.000 That's gonna be a legal battle in the court of law that I'm not sure you can you can fight bad news for the conspiracy theorists It's a very it might look fun on TV, but it's relatively We've got like a skeeball machine.

01:29:18.000 We've got cameras that the room behind us is a bunch of editing Desks and and like coding and came out yesterday.

01:29:25.000 It was silent I was like, wow.

01:29:27.000 Yeah, we've got a kitchen.

01:29:27.000 We bake.

01:29:30.000 It's nothing crazy going on here.

01:29:31.000 But there are conspiracy theorists who say crazy stuff about what happens.

01:29:35.000 And it's funny because people are like, Tim Pool's building a compound.

01:29:38.000 I'm like, we have an office building.

01:29:39.000 It's a house.

01:29:39.000 Yeah.

01:29:40.000 I mean, there always should be a middle ground.

01:29:42.000 And I do believe trust should be earned.

01:29:44.000 I mean, me and Tim also had very negative experiences with police officers in Chicago

01:29:48.000 that were literally trying to set us up and put a gun to my head because of journalism

01:29:53.000 that we were doing during events that was absolutely not warranted.

01:29:57.000 So there's a number of these events and there's a number of these things.

01:30:00.000 So anytime you have power, you should have some kind of transparency and accountability.

01:30:04.000 And I think you could have a level-headedness when you have that.

01:30:08.000 But I think a lot of people, you know, there's some good officers out there and there's some

01:30:11.000 bad officers out there when they have that power and it's not accounted for and there's

01:30:15.000 nothing holding them responsible for a lot of the kind of egregious actions.

01:30:19.000 That's when a lot of people have a lot of serious questions.

01:30:21.000 Now again, you shouldn't go overboard and just think that all cops are horrible or all cops are great.

01:30:27.000 I think the middle ground here is important and understanding personal responsibility and understanding you're responsible for yourself is some of the things that I think we should be preaching about and talking about more than ever.

01:30:36.000 And most cops are good cops.

01:30:39.000 Most cops are good people.

01:30:40.000 The police system in and of itself is reasonable.

01:30:45.000 It's not easy to do the things that people think it's easy to do.

01:30:49.000 Like you say, most people don't interact with cops.

01:30:51.000 It's impossible.

01:30:53.000 If you're in New York, you know how many people live in New York?

01:30:54.000 How many people live in New York?

01:30:55.000 Eight million or something like that?

01:30:57.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 There's one or two cops for every thousand person.

01:31:00.000 The cops are not interacting with everybody.

01:31:02.000 They only really interact about 20% of the population and they interact about 15 to 5% of the population all the time.

01:31:10.000 It's the same group of people that are out here doing crime all the time.

01:31:13.000 So most people aren't really interacting with police.

01:31:15.000 And so I just think people are, they may be feeling some type of way.

01:31:20.000 There's an emotional charge to it.

01:31:21.000 I understand that.

01:31:23.000 But we have to, like I said, you have to put it in perspective.

01:31:26.000 The same offices where people are saying, you are, In acting tyranny, as soon as they walk away from this call, they are out here protecting the servant with their lives.

01:31:36.000 And so you have to understand They're not just acting in one role.

01:31:40.000 You may disagree with this aspect of it, but you have to understand the whole story.

01:31:45.000 Like why does the governor have the power to do these things in the first place?

01:31:49.000 Why does the governor, how can the governor tell you to shut down your business?

01:31:53.000 I think the cop is like a byproduct.

01:31:55.000 You should be protesting the governor.

01:31:57.000 You should be protesting the mayor.

01:31:59.000 The cops are a byproduct of something that's ambiguous.

01:32:02.000 But the governor wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the cops enforcing these unconstitutional edicts and decrees. 0.78

01:32:08.000 They're getting guidance from the governor.

01:32:11.000 Exactly.

01:32:12.000 Guidance is not legalese language.

01:32:15.000 I mean, that's the same argument that a lot of Germans were making during World War II, saying, I want to make the historical context to a lot of human atrocities that have happened because people saying, I follow orders.

01:32:32.000 World War II is overused too many times, but when we look at human history, a lot of pain, a lot of suffering, a lot of death resulted to men saying, you tell me to do it.

01:32:42.000 I'm going to do it without even thinking about it.

01:32:44.000 What I would personally would love to see is a little bit of more discernment.

01:32:48.000 A little bit more upkeeping to the letter of the law instead of just saying, this guy told me to do it.

01:32:53.000 I'm going to do it because so many human atrocities have happened.

01:32:56.000 And I think we're very close for them happening now, especially with what's happening in Australia, what's happening in Europe, what's happening in Canada that could come here.

01:33:03.000 If enough officers say, I will follow that order without questioning it.

01:33:06.000 Okay.

01:33:06.000 Look, this is the thing.

01:33:08.000 It's not like the governor says, officer, you go do this.

01:33:12.000 It comes down from the city council, command staff, and guidance that's given to the officers

01:33:17.000 through the lieutenants, the captains, the chiefs, I mean the sergeants.

01:33:22.000 These are protocols that are disseminated down through officers.

01:33:26.000 And also, many of these police departments have legal advisors.

01:33:29.000 We were a small police department, we had a legal advisor.

01:33:31.000 They would advise us, what can you do legally, according to the constitution and according to the laws,

01:33:37.000 where the department doesn't get sued.

01:33:39.000 So I think it's a bunch of minutia that comes down through the pipe and people have power that shouldn't have power in the way they do.

01:33:47.000 And now the police are taking a fall for it.

01:33:50.000 But they wouldn't have power if police officers weren't doing what they were told to do by them, right?

01:33:53.000 If they could understand that, if there was a little bit more discernment, if they were like saying, hey, hey, hey, maybe we shouldn't, as Walmart's open and people are giving all of their money to that, maybe we shouldn't, you know, we shouldn't stop by this poor grandma's house and shut down her business in New Jersey.

01:34:06.000 Maybe we just shouldn't do that personally ourselves because of the larger implications here.

01:34:11.000 Right, but you feel that way, but some people don't feel that way.

01:34:14.000 Some people don't feel like- Do you think she does?

01:34:16.000 that hurts everyone overall and destroys people's income and destroys people's

01:34:19.000 livelihoods because they were just following orders. Right but you feel that

01:34:22.000 way but some people don't feel that way some people don't feel like the grandma

01:34:25.000 deserve to have her business shut down. Some people believe that she does if 1.00

01:34:28.000 she's not following orders. Do you think she does? I don't think she does. Okay. But I think...

01:34:32.000 But she only does because officers said yes.

01:34:34.000 No, not the officers.

01:34:35.000 It's because the governor has made an order that is deeming this behavior that is going to cause people to die and contagion from this virus is going to spread everywhere if people don't shut down and quarantine.

01:34:49.000 It's a nuance.

01:34:51.000 Now, let me talk about it like this.

01:34:53.000 Some people believe that marijuana should be illegal.

01:34:56.000 Some people believe marijuana should be legal.

01:34:58.000 So, do cops use their discretion in that?

01:35:00.000 And say, well, I don't think people should go to jail for marijuana, so I'm not gonna arrest you for marijuana.

01:35:04.000 But then the cop over here says, I hate marijuana, my kids have gotten into the drug game, and I want marijuana to stop in my community, so I'm gonna enforce it.

01:35:12.000 Just like the mandates, there's a wacky cop out here that believe that they need to wear three masks.

01:35:17.000 And they believe that everybody's dying, like CNN is saying.

01:35:20.000 Should they over-enforce, Grandma?

01:35:23.000 And the guys who say, you know, this is not even a real thing, should they not do anything?

01:35:28.000 The point is that cops should follow the letter of the law.

01:35:32.000 And I believe that this is ambiguous, though.

01:35:34.000 I think this is ambiguous.

01:35:36.000 I believe that we're going to come to a place where we find out that they should have never done this according to the Constitution.

01:35:42.000 Just really quick, but we agree.

01:35:44.000 But just really quick, we agree.

01:35:45.000 What happened to Grandma was wrong.

01:35:47.000 You're saying it's the governor's fault.

01:35:48.000 I'm saying it's the mechanics of the whole how the system worked.

01:35:51.000 I think she's wrong.

01:35:52.000 Some people think that it's right that they want to agree.

01:35:55.000 But we at least agree what happened to grandma with the lock.

01:35:57.000 We got absolutely right.

01:35:58.000 I think it's wrong.

01:35:59.000 OK, I want to shut down no business.

01:36:01.000 I want to have I want to have a conversation about this, but let's do the member segment where we can get more in depth and we got to do super chats, too.

01:36:07.000 So I want to make sure we can we have we have a ton of super chats now pouring in in light of recent events.

01:36:12.000 Let me just tell you guys, like we have a whole bunch of stories we had.

01:36:16.000 Jokovic, the tennis player in Australia.

01:36:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:19.000 Didn't get to any of it because cops walk in the middle of the show and I get up and I'm like running downstairs.

01:36:24.000 What's going on?

01:36:25.000 And so it's topical, though.

01:36:26.000 Brandon's here with the police officer.

01:36:29.000 Well, this led to an interesting conversation and debate, which I found civil and eye opening for the general public.

01:36:35.000 I think there's a lot of points I want to make too, but we should get to the Super Chats, because otherwise we'll go too long.

01:36:42.000 And some people want to talk about civil asset forfeiture and all that stuff, so we'll have a lot to talk about in that member segment.

01:36:46.000 But for the time being, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, where the next time we get swatted, we have a room camera that will show you the police walking in.

01:36:56.000 I'm actually really surprised, like, you know, I'm like, I see the cops walking, we're all looking at each other.

01:37:00.000 Luke, you were talking, right?

01:37:01.000 Yeah, I was talking, I looked up, his eyes got wide.

01:37:03.000 I thought it was a friend of yours that just came in to say hi, and he was like, oh, I'm sorry, did I interrupt you guys?

01:37:08.000 Is that the Sobek? 1.00

01:37:08.000 Who is that? 1.00

01:37:09.000 I was trying to guess who it was.

01:37:10.000 He was a cop, he's like, wearing body armor and a uniform.

01:37:12.000 Yeah, he had a body camera on, and I was like...

01:37:15.000 This does seem to be a little more than... I want that body camera footage.

01:37:18.000 Maybe we can put it on the website.

01:37:19.000 Oh yeah, you should get it.

01:37:20.000 You can for your request it.

01:37:21.000 Oh yeah?

01:37:21.000 Do you think they might just give it to us right away though?

01:37:23.000 Yeah, it's not a crime.

01:37:25.000 It's not a crime to commit so there's no investigation.

01:37:27.000 Well, kinda, but it's not like a murder.

01:37:31.000 They probably wrote a report which we need to know all the details about to which we should do that immediately.

01:37:37.000 You have a right to obtain a 9-1-1 call.

01:37:39.000 Let's get the 9-1-1 call because we might recognize the voice because we might know exactly who did this so let's make sure we're on that ASAP.

01:37:48.000 All right, let's read some superchats.

01:37:49.000 We got Hendrik here.

01:37:50.000 He says, Are you aware that the Mexican state of Baja California enacted NYC-style proof of jab requirements in order to enter private businesses? 0.86

01:37:59.000 I did not, but that's absolutely ridiculous.

01:38:01.000 The president of Mexico has made very strong statements against the mandates, against the lockdowns.

01:38:06.000 And it looks like some people are acting totally differently on that specific section of Mexico, which is very strange because, again, the president of Mexico made very strong statements against Big Pharma, which I absolutely agreed with.

01:38:21.000 And to see this happening in Mexico is kind of sad.

01:38:24.000 So a lot of people have super chatted that apparently Tucker Carlson had Ted Cruz on.

01:38:28.000 Did you see this?

01:38:30.000 I'm seeing, yeah, people are chatting that he's getting slam dunked hard. 0.98

01:38:32.000 And he was like, it was a mistake, I shouldn't have said it, it was an accident, and Tucker's like, you're a liar. 0.95

01:38:36.000 Oh, awesome. 0.90

01:38:37.000 And he's even more of a punk.

01:38:39.000 Yeah, I know, right?

01:38:41.000 Fess up to it, dude.

01:38:42.000 You said it.

01:38:43.000 Fess up to it. 0.98

01:38:44.000 Alright.

01:38:44.000 Brent Sagan says, Hey Tim, not sure if you remember, but you helped bully my brother Grant a few months ago into getting an account with Timcast.

01:38:52.000 Anyways, it's my 21st birthday today, so that's fun.

01:38:54.000 Wishing you all the best.

01:38:55.000 Also have Luke say my last name.

01:38:57.000 It's Polish.

01:38:58.000 What is it?

01:38:58.000 How do you say it?

01:38:59.000 C-Y-G-A-N. 1.00

01:39:00.000 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Alright, some of these, uh, we had one, but I think it might be a little too vague.

01:39:17.000 Happy birthday, man, by the way.

01:39:18.000 Yes, happy birthday.

01:39:19.000 Happy birthday.

01:39:19.000 Shout out to Brandon.

01:39:21.000 Absolutely.

01:39:22.000 Alright, Group B says, Rhonda Sanders had a press conference today, brought up the fact the media keeps insinuating an insurrection took place, but after one year, no one has been charged with insurrection.

01:39:32.000 That's the scary part.

01:39:33.000 This is the part that I feel like is balancing in that constitutional thing.

01:39:37.000 Why are people still detained if nobody's been charged?

01:39:40.000 How long can you lawfully detain somebody for something that they haven't... It's like due process.

01:39:44.000 I mean, you would think that you would... Now, I could be wrong because the letter of the law may say something different, and this is a caveat that we are getting exposed to, but you can't detain somebody for a period longer than reasonable before they have due process and have their time in court.

01:39:58.000 But these people, I guess, have been in a hole for I'll be honest, I haven't read the National Defense Authorization Act or the Patriot Act in full, but I think there's different ones.

01:40:07.000 The impetus is that you're allowed to indefinitely detain someone if they're suspected of terrorism.

01:40:12.000 There's a provision within that, yeah.

01:40:14.000 Yeah, but which is a problem because you see Trump came out and he came out against these people in January 6th.

01:40:20.000 All these politicians who are coming out against people in January 6th, are responsible, to a certain degree, of the reason why these people are still down there being detained.

01:40:29.000 When a lot of them didn't even, I mean, I don't think that they did any violence.

01:40:32.000 There's no evidence.

01:40:33.000 Well, I mean, I can't say there's no evidence.

01:40:34.000 Are they detaining people who just walked in?

01:40:36.000 Yes.

01:40:37.000 They've been not charged.

01:40:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:40:38.000 They just walked in.

01:40:39.000 There are people who engaged in violence.

01:40:41.000 Which I saw.

01:40:42.000 Arrested and prosecuted.

01:40:44.000 But a lot of these people were, the doors were open.

01:40:47.000 The cops were taking selfies with them.

01:40:48.000 Right.

01:40:49.000 And now they're getting months in jail.

01:40:51.000 They've been in jail for some people, for solitary, for like eight months.

01:40:54.000 What is it now?

01:40:55.000 It's a year almost.

01:40:56.000 Yeah, and I think that, I mean, that's why I didn't go down there.

01:40:59.000 I was upset about it, but I didn't go down there because I know what the law is.

01:41:02.000 You can't just storm the Capitol in our country.

01:41:05.000 You just can't.

01:41:06.000 It's also meaningless.

01:41:07.000 Like, what did they think was gonna happen?

01:41:08.000 Yeah, you're gonna storm and do what?

01:41:10.000 Paint the walls?

01:41:10.000 Y'all have nothing to do.

01:41:11.000 You're not gonna do anything.

01:41:13.000 So what's the point of doing it?

01:41:14.000 I don't think that they should be held in detention, but The law is the law, man.

01:41:19.000 If you wanna take it there, you gotta take it there and receive what's gonna come after it.

01:41:24.000 Just like Martin Luther King, when they did sit-ins, they got arrested.

01:41:27.000 They took that.

01:41:27.000 I wanna argue more because lawful does not mean moral, and a lot of atrocities in this world and throughout history were lawful.

01:41:34.000 We'll get into that.

01:41:35.000 But we'll talk about that later.

01:41:36.000 That's actually a really good point I want to talk about.

01:41:38.000 We got this here from Gunner. 1.00

01:41:39.000 He says, I'm Gen Z and my generation is stupid. 1.00

01:41:42.000 There are probably other Zoomers here that would agree with me. 1.00

01:41:45.000 It's such blatant idiocracy that's becoming more surreal.

01:41:47.000 It's exactly what they wanted.

01:41:50.000 Gunner, I think you're right, but it's not as bad as you think.

01:41:53.000 A Pew Research poll found that Gen Z is actually the first generation in 100 years to be slightly more conservative than the previous generation.

01:42:00.000 What's the age of Gen Z? 0.94

01:42:02.000 What are they like, 90, was it like 95?

01:42:05.000 Born in 95 and up or something like that?

01:42:07.000 So I'll just say this, so Gen Z actually could be fairly old, like late 20s at this point.

01:42:14.000 Millennials are more active online and they're protected online. 0.95

01:42:17.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, woke people. 0.99

01:42:19.000 So be it Gen Z or Millennials, they're more likely, in my opinion, to be active on the internet, to be protected when they say insane things, and the corporate media protects them and puts out their message.

01:42:30.000 So that's why they try to censor.

01:42:31.000 That's why they try to hide dislike accounts.

01:42:34.000 They want you to think you're alone.

01:42:36.000 They want you to think that they're the majority when they are not.

01:42:38.000 Seriously, look up the Pew Research Study that talks about the political leanings of generations.

01:42:43.000 And while Gen Z is almost identical to Millennials in terms of their political positioning, They're in some areas slightly to the right, like a tiny bit, but that is huge because throughout the past several generations it always flows left, and the left has been very proud of that. 0.71

01:42:58.000 Something changed, and I think it has to do with parenting and child rearing.

01:43:03.000 Conservatives were more likely to have kids in the early 2000s, so that means 22-year-olds today, 21-year-olds, There's gonna be more conservatives than liberals because liberals were having 1.5 kids and conservatives were having 2.01 kids.

01:43:17.000 I did this whole thing researching the birthing rates in the year 2000.

01:43:20.000 So there you go.

01:43:22.000 Born in the year 2000, 22 years old today.

01:43:26.000 That's crazy.

01:43:26.000 We're very old people in this room.

01:43:28.000 Don't say that.

01:43:29.000 We're going to be farting dust soon.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, farting dust, man.

01:43:32.000 All right, let's see.

01:43:33.000 Let's try and grab another good tweet.

01:43:35.000 We have so many superchats.

01:43:36.000 I'm sorry we can't get to all of them.

01:43:37.000 Very exciting.

01:43:38.000 Night.

01:43:39.000 What's up, guys?

01:43:40.000 All right.

01:43:41.000 You know what?

01:43:41.000 I'm reading this one.

01:43:41.000 Moneybag says, Tim, have you looked into flat or convex earth?

01:43:45.000 Very thought-provoking.

01:43:47.000 That'd be awesome to have Eric Dubé or Dave Weiss on.

01:43:50.000 Elite lie.

01:43:50.000 Why not on this?

01:43:53.000 I've certainly read a lot of the flat Earth stuff, and I find it funny, and wow.

01:43:58.000 Just, I'm sorry, man, the Earth is not flat.

01:44:00.000 Ian?

01:44:01.000 Ian, where are you on this?

01:44:02.000 I want to know where Ian stands on this.

01:44:03.000 I used to think of Earth as a sphere, now I think of it more as kind of an amorphous bubble that's kind of changing shape, like the sun, if you look at it with a telescope, it's kind of bubulous.

01:44:11.000 I like this convex Earth, that maybe it's like a discus that's kind of pulsing like that, kind of ovular.

01:44:18.000 The convex Earth theory is that the Earth is a bowl.

01:44:20.000 I don't go that far.

01:44:21.000 I don't think that there's any flash.

01:44:22.000 I think that comes from ancient history, like ancient stories, and now people are kind of getting a jive out of bringing it back up again.

01:44:28.000 And I gotta stop you on this fear thing.

01:44:30.000 The reason I find this so ridiculous is that we've known this for millennia.

01:44:34.000 The earth is on the back of a giant turtle drifting through space.

01:44:38.000 Obviously.

01:44:38.000 Duh.

01:44:41.000 The Earth is like a little wart on some I watched I watched one guy who said like he went on a plane with a leveler and then he was like If the earth is round then the plane should dip down to go with the curvature Which means the leveler will change and then he like time lapses.

01:44:56.000 I see it didn't and it's just like oh jeez Yeah, I don't know if the plane would do that.

01:45:00.000 It would just stay... it would just coast around like this, but... He thought that the plane would go to the edge of the Earth and then have to turn down.

01:45:07.000 Have to, like, actually go down, because gravity doesn't work... for some reason.

01:45:12.000 Yeah, some guy said that the... you know, like, if the Earth stopped...

01:45:17.000 People will continue to fly at like thousands of miles per hour.

01:45:20.000 I'm going to have dreams about a couple hundred miles talking about this tonight, by the way.

01:45:23.000 Yeah, that's weird.

01:45:24.000 I mean, I want to what's the obsession with flat earth?

01:45:26.000 Like, I mean, I don't get it.

01:45:27.000 Like, who cares?

01:45:28.000 I think it's another form of psychosis.

01:45:30.000 Like, does it matter?

01:45:30.000 I'm not.

01:45:31.000 It's interesting to talk about anything.

01:45:32.000 But yeah that people are like latching on to weird weird stuff like that like that's a weird one talk about 9-11 cool Let's get talk about facts, but that's like.

01:45:40.000 I don't know I've never seen any evidence for it.

01:45:42.000 Yeah, all right Let's read some more we got Raisin he says get badge numbers file a police report reach out tell me how to reach out to y'all in my info set company Help you find who made that call cheers and thank God y'all are okay?

01:45:53.000 Yeah, my phone's been blowing up.

01:45:55.000 I tweeted out as soon as it happened.

01:45:56.000 A lot of people were watching when it happened and, you know, everybody's fine.

01:46:00.000 It wasn't the apocalypse.

01:46:02.000 Swatting, often, is like they're in suits and they've got rifles and they're like, everybody on the ground!

01:46:07.000 Police departments have grown from that.

01:46:09.000 When I was a police officer, we went through training about swatting.

01:46:13.000 We're also in the middle of nowhere.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, so they're probably like, they don't probably have a SWAT team around here.

01:46:18.000 And but not only that, they're probably thinking of some dudes in his shack and did do this.

01:46:23.000 Like, we have time.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, we have time.

01:46:26.000 There's nobody around.

01:46:27.000 You know, sometimes I wake up in the morning, I hear gunshots going off.

01:46:30.000 And I'm just like sipping my coffee.

01:46:31.000 And I'm like, like the neighbors shooting again.

01:46:34.000 It's not Chicago.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, I know.

01:46:37.000 You do hear gunshots in Chicago.

01:46:41.000 In Chicago, when I'm when I'm growing up in a kid and I hear gunshots and I'm sitting there sipping my coffee, I'm like, oh, the gangs are shooting each other again.

01:46:46.000 And then a bullet come through your coffee mug.

01:46:49.000 It shatters.

01:46:51.000 And you're like, I got a new mug.

01:46:53.000 But for different reasons, we don't care.

01:46:56.000 Yeah, sometimes we hear like, it sounds almost like full auto because so many people are shooting.

01:47:01.000 Bangs in the distance and the birds fly away.

01:47:03.000 It's the sound of freedom, man.

01:47:04.000 But that's why I think the cops are probably like, something did happen.

01:47:08.000 He's not going anywhere.

01:47:11.000 They didn't seem too intense when they came here.

01:47:13.000 They were kind of like lost a little bit.

01:47:14.000 I'm pretty sure they were lost.

01:47:15.000 They didn't know where they were at.

01:47:17.000 The one cop like fanned me over and I was just like, I was like, nope.

01:47:20.000 I was like, we got cameras on and live?

01:47:22.000 And I'm like, this is the worst possible time to do something like this.

01:47:24.000 But I had no idea what it was about.

01:47:26.000 I knew it was right away.

01:47:28.000 When I knew you didn't know him, I said, somebody must have swiped us.

01:47:31.000 Luckily, I got a message that everything was fine as soon as everything was going down.

01:47:35.000 Well, when I talked to the crew, everybody did everything right, so I'm really proud of the team.

01:47:39.000 But people need to understand, I tweeted this, this is like an office, so there's like, what, a dozen employees here right now?

01:47:44.000 It's not a house.

01:47:45.000 I mean, it is a house, but when you walk in, you're like, oh, it's an office.

01:47:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:49.000 Yeah, you can clearly see that this is what you do here.

01:47:52.000 But so, if this was like a small house, if people, if you, this is the crazy thing, like imagine the Daily Wire got swatted, and they show up to this big building, they're gonna be like, knock on the door and there's a receptionist, and you're like, we have a receptionist too.

01:48:05.000 So I'm sure they show up and they're just like, there's all these employees all over the place, there's the work going on, they're probably, as soon as they saw that, they're probably like, okay.

01:48:12.000 Yeah, normally what they would do is, they would call.

01:48:16.000 If it's during the daytime.

01:48:17.000 The dispatcher will call the number for daily wire and say, are you guys experiencing an emergency there?

01:48:22.000 And then they'll be done with it.

01:48:23.000 All right.

01:48:24.000 Luke's mom says, Tim, you may be getting bracketed.

01:48:26.000 You may want to set up security while streaming.

01:48:29.000 Those who may want to do harm are watching you right now.

01:48:31.000 Give less specifics.

01:48:32.000 No, I understand all that.

01:48:34.000 And I will tell you guys this.

01:48:37.000 I don't mention this very often, but we're armed.

01:48:40.000 Of course we are.

01:48:42.000 And so people have mentioned that on the show, like, without getting into too much detail,

01:48:45.000 when we've had other contentious guests, people are, I've seen comments where they're like,

01:48:49.000 yo, Tim's strapped.

01:48:50.000 Like, you guys know this, right?

01:48:51.000 Yeah, we're in the middle of nowhere.

01:48:53.000 And I talk about how the fact that we're, we're, we're like crazy 2A people, but we're

01:48:57.000 also very, um, very safe with, with, with firearms.

01:49:01.000 So it's like not like we just have guns lying around or anything crazy like that But we're armed and we're prepared Especially considering the amount of crazy people who threaten us and harass us and the death threats and all that stuff.

01:49:10.000 Absolutely I mean, that's why I said I was like we're very lucky nothing happened and everything was calm and the officer was calm and and no one got hurt because again the SWATs are Horrible and they do injure and kill a lot of people accidentally.

01:49:23.000 We so our front door we've like it's it's It's not like a house door closed and like bolted locked you can walk up and there's like a clear glass door like an office like it's it's it's a screen door, but like when we have Well, that's what I'm trying to say is when you have like an office building and there's you can see through the door and everything It's a very similar you walk up.

01:49:43.000 You can see through the window You can see there's a desk with the receptionist and there's a computer So they're they're not walking into some crazy if they're not kicking any doors if this was if we were the only people in here That would have been a big problem Because just to say I went downstairs, I just run downstairs to grab something.

01:49:58.000 And they come in the house and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:50:00.000 And I'm coming down the stairs and they, I don't know they're there.

01:50:02.000 They don't know who I am.

01:50:03.000 I'm dressed in all black. 0.86

01:50:05.000 They may, they may get spooked and shoot me. 0.78

01:50:07.000 That's funny.

01:50:07.000 Cause right before they came in here, I was about to run, run to the bathroom, like run fast downstairs.

01:50:12.000 I could just run by.

01:50:15.000 And the crazy thing is often when Ian runs to the bathroom, he grabs the master sword from Zelda and swings it wildly at everyone out on the way.

01:50:21.000 And screams. 0.83

01:50:24.000 Alright, let's see.

01:50:25.000 The dragon lady says, man, what could have happened if the cops had walked in when you 0.78

01:50:28.000 were showing your freaking antique non-working gun to someone? 0.94

01:50:31.000 Bad-ish could go down. 0.99

01:50:33.000 Yeah, it could.

01:50:36.000 I could very well see a cop just getting spooked, man.

01:50:40.000 Just open a door and you got a gun, and I could see it happening.

01:50:45.000 Even if they know what the show is, especially if they know that we live and work here, because then they're gonna be like, oh man, we know Tim Pool is obviously a guy who's probably gonna get targeted.

01:50:56.000 There's a good chance there's a threat here, you know what I mean?

01:50:59.000 We gotta FOIA everything.

01:51:00.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 Absolutely.

01:51:01.000 Yeah, easy.

01:51:02.000 That's easy.

01:51:03.000 That's easy.

01:51:03.000 Did you get the badge numbers from them?

01:51:05.000 No, no, but they may have.

01:51:07.000 I'm trying to like run down.

01:51:09.000 They seem like, you know, it's probably a very small little agency around this area.

01:51:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:15.000 And I've talked to them before.

01:51:16.000 I've talked to them before.

01:51:16.000 Yeah, it'll be fine.

01:51:17.000 You have the right to four-year, all that stuff.

01:51:19.000 It would be good to get to meet the person who runs the district here, the sergeant, lieutenant.

01:51:25.000 Just get in contact with them, because you may need them at some point.

01:51:28.000 More so than calling 9-1-1, you may contact them directly.

01:51:31.000 Right, and we've actually talked with security companies and stuff like that.

01:51:37.000 Laughing Dog says, how you like world government now, Tim?

01:51:40.000 Fun stuff, eh?

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 Fun stuff.

01:51:45.000 I mean, you've got on the one side, like we've already said, not three times.

01:51:48.000 If someone really was hurt here, these guys come running in full speed to make sure we're okay.

01:51:53.000 Well, you know, the one time that you may not want to share with other people, but you would want to find out is how long did it take them to get here after the 911 call happened?

01:52:00.000 I gotta be honest.

01:52:02.000 I bet it took a long time.

01:52:04.000 Well, who knows?

01:52:05.000 I mean, look.

01:52:06.000 I say it over and over again.

01:52:07.000 We're in the middle of nowhere.

01:52:08.000 And we're armed.

01:52:09.000 So, I'm willing to bet that it took them a while.

01:52:13.000 Probably not as long as when I was in Miami or anything like that.

01:52:15.000 They're probably going fast, though.

01:52:17.000 I don't know.

01:52:18.000 I just go fast.

01:52:20.000 We're in the middle of nowhere, though.

01:52:21.000 I know.

01:52:22.000 But they may be roaming around in the middle of nowhere.

01:52:24.000 I mean, this certainly took over the show.

01:52:27.000 Multiple cars.

01:52:28.000 Obviously, five people wouldn't come in one car, so they brought multiple cars.

01:52:31.000 They come from very different directions, too.

01:52:32.000 Ponton says, you can get a direct line from the cops to a phone that glows red when it rings and sits right in front of you during the show.

01:52:39.000 Can we make Freedom Day about taking back the narrative, too?

01:52:42.000 Procedure, what it is?

01:52:43.000 Temporary symptom reducer.

01:52:45.000 I'm very into the public interacting with the police, like private company police.

01:52:50.000 Maybe not, but I want to somehow help the police force with private enterprise without creating a private police force.

01:52:57.000 Just make the environment easier and better for them to work somehow.

01:53:02.000 I like to do it when I drive.

01:53:03.000 I'm always being as safe as I can, as if I'm a cop, making sure everyone's okay so that they don't have to.

01:53:08.000 I want to do that with our organization.

01:53:10.000 That'd be cool. 0.98

01:53:12.000 Triumph says, man, when I hear and listen to the rock and a hard place these cops are put in, I'm super happy I'm a garbage man. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Holy crap. 0.99

01:53:21.000 And I can respect that. 0.99

01:53:22.000 That's why I've never been like, all cops are bad, blah, blah, blah.

01:53:25.000 I'm like, hey, they're human beings, man.

01:53:28.000 It's hard, man.

01:53:29.000 It's hard, dude.

01:53:30.000 It's hard to think about, okay, if I do this, I'm gonna lose my pension.

01:53:34.000 Some of these officers, I don't know, those guys look kind of young, but you got a guy with 25 years on, 28 years on, And he wanna be a hero today and lose his whole pension?

01:53:43.000 You know, you gotta think, man, the sacrifice the cops make for 28 years, putting your family through all that, they don't know if you're gonna live or die every day.

01:53:49.000 When I was working, I didn't know if I was gonna die every day.

01:53:52.000 Every day, it's like, okay, I made it today, made it today, made it today.

01:53:55.000 I didn't die today.

01:53:55.000 I mean, you don't know, any day you could be dead over anything.

01:53:58.000 I mean, a traffic violation or somebody could run a red light and hit you.

01:54:02.000 When you retired, did you miss the exhilaration of that?

01:54:05.000 Yeah, because the adrenaline rush every day is out of control.

01:54:08.000 So, you can't replicate that.

01:54:11.000 You know, when you're on duty, man, your adrenaline is... Because you get a call like this.

01:54:15.000 Two people shot and murdered or something.

01:54:17.000 One guy is on the phone.

01:54:18.000 You can hear people screaming in the background.

01:54:20.000 Like, dude, that's a... You feel something in you that cannot be replicated.

01:54:25.000 We got Psycho, he says, leftists on the surfs on Twitch told me you guys are dangerous personalities.

01:54:32.000 I mean, I don't know who those guys are, so.

01:54:35.000 Stunningly, attractively dangerous.

01:54:39.000 Like dangerous in the sense that if you're a tyrant or a fascist, you better watch out. 0.83

01:54:43.000 Because we'll expose you. 1.00

01:54:45.000 These people are nuts. 1.00

01:54:46.000 We're just having a basic conversation. 1.00

01:54:47.000 How is this dangerous?

01:54:49.000 Won't they have a conversation?

01:54:50.000 Walter, no, no.

01:54:51.000 See, if you are part of the cult, we are very dangerous.

01:54:54.000 We had Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show.

01:54:56.000 And you know what people said?

01:54:57.000 We had a ton of super chats where people were like, I thought she was crazy until I heard her talk about what she thinks and what she does.

01:55:05.000 Same thing with Steve Bannon.

01:55:06.000 That's why they view us as dangerous because the lies and the smears that keep people in the cult, we break.

01:55:13.000 You're right.

01:55:13.000 They probably think you say stuff on here and think you're crazy.

01:55:16.000 I mean, that's always how it is.

01:55:17.000 When people talk to me or when I see people in person or I'm in an event live and people question me that are dissenters or whatever, they never, I mean, they always leave like, I like you, man.

01:55:27.000 You're cool.

01:55:27.000 I didn't know you were like this.

01:55:29.000 I watched the Serfs before.

01:55:29.000 They're pretty cool.

01:55:30.000 So I bet that's kind of out of context.

01:55:32.000 No, they rag on us often.

01:55:33.000 But it's like a fun kind of rag.

01:55:35.000 It seemed like they love ragging on us.

01:55:36.000 All right, sure, whatever.

01:55:41.000 When I say I don't know them, I'm not familiar with what their show format is, or who they are as people, or their names, or anything like that.

01:55:47.000 I just know that we get those kind of comments.

01:55:49.000 A couple of dudes, I think.

01:55:50.000 They just want to sleep with you. 0.99

01:55:52.000 They're just trying to date me, man!

01:55:54.000 Alright, you guys.

01:55:55.000 TheLifeOfD says, ironically you had Marjorie Taylor Greene on yesterday.

01:55:58.000 Today you're getting swatted.

01:56:00.000 I'm just pointing out events in order, not drawing conclusions.

01:56:03.000 The real question is, what did she tell you about Hillary?

01:56:05.000 I'm gonna watch the other.

01:56:08.000 I don't know.

01:56:09.000 I think I know that was a good one.

01:56:11.000 All right, let's grab some more super chats.

01:56:18.000 No, that's not true.

01:56:19.000 You gotta develop probable cause.

01:56:20.000 Because Kyle Rittenhouse, they didn't really have all the context of what actually happened.

01:56:24.000 Rittenhouse shot a pedo and he wasn't arrested.

01:56:26.000 The cops have the discretion. 0.90

01:56:28.000 No that's not true.

01:56:30.000 You got to develop probable cause.

01:56:31.000 So if you because Kyle Rittenhouse they didn't really have all the context of what actually

01:56:36.000 happened.

01:56:37.000 They know people were shot.

01:56:39.000 He came over to the police.

01:56:40.000 I don't think they knew who was wrong or not.

01:56:42.000 I don't think they even knew someone got shot at that point. 0.96

01:56:44.000 And they don't know the guy's a pedo anyway.

01:56:45.000 They just, they hear shots.

01:56:47.000 People are down.

01:56:48.000 They don't know who shot who.

01:56:49.000 They don't know if it's a self-defense or not.

01:56:51.000 And so it wasn't a discretionary decision.

01:56:53.000 They didn't have probable cause to arrest him, which you can't arrest anybody unless you have probable cause.

01:56:58.000 And if you arrest him without probable cause, all of that evidence goes away and you are probably going to get fired.

01:57:03.000 Never be a cop again.

01:57:05.000 Deservingly so.

01:57:07.000 Just Jimmy says, FOIA requests info about officers that came and any info you can get about call.

01:57:12.000 Absolutely.

01:57:12.000 And then we'll publish it.

01:57:14.000 Yeah, we will.

01:57:15.000 Especially the phone call.

01:57:16.000 I want to listen to that voice because who knows, maybe we know who it is.

01:57:19.000 Like I had crazy things throughout my career where people called me like one o'clock in the morning and I remember recording them.

01:57:25.000 And then I remember that person who was harassing me over the years, calling my family, getting these numbers was actually a part of my organization in New York City.

01:57:32.000 And I had the recording and I played it back right in front of this person who was infiltrating my organization and just harassing me.

01:57:40.000 And that was a huge wake up call.

01:57:42.000 So there's a lot of weird people out there. 0.96

01:57:44.000 There's a lot of crazy people out there.

01:57:45.000 So just having this information is key.

01:57:48.000 And make sure if you go to for your request and they say it's under investigation, they can't release it.

01:57:52.000 Maybe you can go down and view it.

01:57:53.000 Don't say it.

01:57:54.000 They may let you actually view or listen to the phone call without taking possession of it, you know

01:57:59.000 I should do you know what I'm not gonna say it don't say security secret secrets. Yeah, perfect

01:58:05.000 Well, we'll keep that our security plans a secret. So what I was gonna say is McCulloch Hulkin style booby traps. Yes

01:58:11.000 Hang some paint cans from the top of the stairs. No, but you're not it's actually

01:58:16.000 Yeah, it's illegal to booby trap stuff but like, you know, then the cops come in

01:58:23.000 Burn a you remember I think never that scene I think that flamethrower or something blue is and he had a

01:58:28.000 beanie like this is That was in part two.

01:58:31.000 It was in part two.

01:58:32.000 I freaking love that movie.

01:58:33.000 It was so funny.

01:58:33.000 When I was a kid, I used to just watch it.

01:58:36.000 Yeah, we watched part two over Christmas.

01:58:37.000 You have to, man.

01:58:39.000 All right.

01:58:40.000 JJG says, Tim, why go to New Jersey?

01:58:42.000 You can't bear arms.

01:58:44.000 Why go to New Jersey?

01:58:45.000 You can't bear arms in Maryland.

01:58:47.000 MD police will arrest you for having a firearm on you, which is why I'm for Dems wanting to disarm police.

01:58:51.000 If I can't, they can't.

01:58:53.000 Same with self-defense.

01:58:55.000 Well, we're actually setting up the new Freedomistan in West Virginia.

01:58:59.000 The contracts are in.

01:59:01.000 The deposits are in.

01:59:02.000 Construction is beginning soon.

01:59:03.000 And I think maybe in six months, we will have the fully operational new facility.

01:59:09.000 I'm not for disarming police, by the way.

01:59:10.000 I don't think never.

01:59:10.000 we have to actually build out the rest of the open space, it's gonna be amazing.

01:59:14.000 I can't believe that we're getting this done.

01:59:16.000 It's gonna be absolutely incredible.

01:59:17.000 I'm not for disarming police, by the way.

01:59:20.000 I'm for disarming some police.

01:59:21.000 I don't think never.

01:59:22.000 Why?

01:59:23.000 I think if we had some cops who weren't armed for certain jobs,

01:59:28.000 we'd have more versatility.

01:59:30.000 But like what job?

01:59:31.000 Would you not need to be armed as a police officer?

01:59:32.000 Well, so like, it depends on the call, I suppose.

01:59:36.000 If there's like, what's a good example?

01:59:41.000 A barking dog.

01:59:41.000 Well, I don't know about a dog, because dogs can be dangerous.

01:59:45.000 No, no, just a barking dog.

01:59:46.000 You don't have to deal with it.

01:59:47.000 It's just a civil complaint of a person saying, the dogs are too loud.

01:59:50.000 You don't have to deal with them.

01:59:51.000 I'm thinking like businesses, you know, someone's complaining, noise complaints, you know.

01:59:56.000 But see, let me just give you an example.

01:59:58.000 Barking dog call.

01:59:59.000 That's why I was going to set you up a little bit.

02:00:01.000 But the barking dog call that just happened not too long ago.

02:00:04.000 Um, they went to an apartment complex and the police officers got ambushed and one got murdered while she was begging for her life with her own gun.

02:00:10.000 I saw that.

02:00:11.000 And it was a barking dog call.

02:00:12.000 So, it's like you never know, like, what's what.

02:00:16.000 That's why I'm like, you know, I, I, I think there are circumstances in which we can have officers who don't need to be armed.

02:00:22.000 I'll put it that way.

02:00:22.000 I think they should be armed, they just need to be proficient.

02:00:25.000 I was armed and I never shot anybody.

02:00:26.000 I was on the SWAT team, never shot anybody.

02:00:28.000 You don't, you don't have to shoot people, but... Actually, I'll take this back.

02:00:31.000 I think everybody should be armed.

02:00:32.000 Well, here's, here's a perfect, here's a perfect segue into, and I know you got the super chats, but you know, uh, one of the things that I'm into now is that I'm an advisor with a company called quest microsystems, and we've developed a nonlethal weapon that you can use in law enforcement and in personal defense.

02:00:49.000 But this is a, this is a thing that's important for our society because I would love for a police officer to have a gun and have another, qualified weapon that they can use when they get to a call.

02:01:00.000 And it's like a man who's loony, but he didn't have a weapon.

02:01:03.000 Nonlethal or less lethal.

02:01:04.000 And can we test it out?

02:01:05.000 Yes.

02:01:06.000 Let's show show you going to show in Vegas.

02:01:08.000 We'll have them available.

02:01:09.000 We'll do a test them out.

02:01:10.000 They are nonlethal.

02:01:11.000 We'll do a couple more and then we're going to head over to that member segment.

02:01:14.000 We've got a couple different Super Chats that said that we got insurrected by the cops on January 6th and that January 6th will forever be the day that Timcast IRL was swatted and that's what we're gonna remember it for.

02:01:25.000 Is that why somebody did that?

02:01:26.000 I don't know.

02:01:27.000 So they can rush the podcast?

02:01:29.000 I gotta be honest, I think it might be Marjorie Taylor Greene.

02:01:33.000 Oh, because she was on here?

02:01:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:35.000 Or maybe they hate me, because I'm a former police officer.

02:01:37.000 I don't think it's you.

02:01:38.000 Nah, they know it a little better.

02:01:40.000 I think maybe they wanted just to see it happen.

02:01:43.000 You know, that's one of the reasons they do it, because it's a live show.

02:01:44.000 Well, with the possibility of someone getting seriously hurt here, I don't think it was anything but to try to cause malicious harm.

02:01:50.000 That's my perspective.

02:01:51.000 So, you know, when you have someone like MTG on, you generate a lot of attention.

02:01:57.000 Obviously, the establishment really despises her, the activists really hate her. 0.76

02:02:00.000 I don't think she had anything to do with it in that regard.

02:02:02.000 I think it just put us on the radar for a lot of people.

02:02:05.000 That's what I would agree with, because I would say they would have done it on the day she was here.

02:02:08.000 That would have made more sense.

02:02:09.000 But also, some wacko saw her on here and now is aware of it. 0.75

02:02:14.000 Exactly, now is aware of the show.

02:02:17.000 I think some people don't understand the seriousness or the severity of swatting.

02:02:22.000 I think some people think, it'd be funny to interrupt the show.

02:02:25.000 They don't think about that it's a felony.

02:02:27.000 And some kid got like 20 years in prison for swatting.

02:02:30.000 Yeah, I really could have when people get shot and killed.

02:02:33.000 Barreling through the house full speed past cops and not knowing why they're there and yelling at me to the bathroom.

02:02:38.000 That could have happened.

02:02:40.000 We have a lot to talk about in regards to especially that other swatting too.

02:02:44.000 So let's do that over on the member segment.

02:02:46.000 We'll get in depth on policing, debate, the morality, authoritarianism, libertarianism, etc.

02:02:50.000 So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

02:02:54.000 What time did it happen?

02:02:56.000 851 851 ish. Yeah, so it's possible. It's possible that it took them like an hour to get here

02:03:02.000 Maybe they called it in right when the show. Oh, no way Yeah, but I was like, that's a weird time unless they're

02:03:07.000 getting all the five officers together in the different area

02:03:11.000 When I was saying a long time I was thinking like eight ten minutes. Yeah, but then I was looking at the time

02:03:16.000 I was like, I wonder when this was called.

02:03:17.000 Because I know where they are.

02:03:18.000 Oh, they're nearby.

02:03:19.000 And I know how fast they can go.

02:03:21.000 But because we're in a rural area, if they had the lights on and we're speeding, I'm thinking like 8, 10 minutes.

02:03:26.000 Response time is about 15 minutes to a situation.

02:03:28.000 Really?

02:03:29.000 Yep.

02:03:29.000 In rural areas.

02:03:30.000 Now, I don't know how rural this is compared to places in Texas that I, you know, places that when I grew up in Texas.

02:03:35.000 Average response time is 10 minutes, according to a US study released in 2017.

02:03:39.000 But in here, in this area?

02:03:40.000 Well, let's, let's, let's.

02:03:41.000 All right, all right.

02:03:42.000 We'll do the member assignment.

02:03:43.000 We'll get into the cop stuff.

02:03:44.000 For sure.

02:03:44.000 So smash that like button, subscribe to the show, share the show with your friends.

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02:03:58.000 You wanna shout anything out, Brandon?

02:03:59.000 No, no, just black and blue.

02:04:02.000 Being a black cop in America and see very proud of the book doing very well.

02:04:06.000 I may give you insight into law enforcement and also the quest microsystems that I'm a part of investor.

02:04:11.000 I'm an advisor with them.

02:04:12.000 It's a publicly traded company and it's going to take over the landscape of nonlethal weapons in law enforcement and personal defense.

02:04:19.000 Where can people find you if they want to contact you?

02:04:22.000 They can find me at theofficertatum.com theofficertatum.com So I have my own media organization and YouTube ... channel on we are change I did a full video on exactly what ... I was talking about when the police officers came in the ... history of pandemics and civil unrest check out that video if ... you haven't yet I also released another video on ... lukeuncensored.com about the great reset hope to see some of you guys ... there I'm working my butt off and you know this is.

02:04:49.000 We're really in a key, crucial, critical time where we got to do as much work as we can before it's too late.

02:04:55.000 So I want to thank everyone a part of this mission and getting the message out there.

02:04:59.000 Our work, I think, is more important than ever.

02:05:01.000 Thank you so much for being here.

02:05:02.000 Thank you, Luke.

02:05:03.000 Hey, you guys, check me out at iancrossland.net.

02:05:05.000 Thanks for coming.

02:05:05.000 I love you.

02:05:06.000 And be good to yourself and your friends.

02:05:09.000 Thank you guys all very much for tuning in for this extra exciting episode of Timcast IRL.

02:05:13.000 This is the kind of high-quality content you can expect from this podcast.

02:05:17.000 I'm just kidding.

02:05:18.000 You don't get this kind of stuff on Rogan, though.

02:05:19.000 I'm just saying.

02:05:20.000 Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patchlets.

02:05:23.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:05:24.000 We will see you all over at Timcast.com in our member segments where we're going to talk about cops and stuff.

02:05:30.000 We'll see you there.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 07, 2022

Timcast IRL - Kamala Harris Compares Jan 6th To Pearl Harbor And 9-11 w-Brandon Tatum

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