Kyle Rittenhouse's legal team has filed a motion to have the gun charge against him dismissed, which could mean that the case against him is a non-starter. We talk to John Pierce, founder of the National Constitutional Law Union (NCLU), and Ian Crossland of the NCLU, about how politics may be playing a role in this case. We also talk about the ongoing case against Khabrat Nassim, and the new AC unit being installed in the studio.
00:00:52.000Many people on the left have even said, well I shouldn't say many people, but some people on the left have actually admitted that it was self-defense, or at least begrudgingly said it was some kind of conflict.
00:01:00.000Although the left is adamant about locking this guy up, in my opinion, if this gun charge goes out, I'm not a lawyer.
00:01:21.000We'll see how politics plays a role in this.
00:01:24.000But joining us today is former lawyer for Kyle Rittenhouse, John Pierce, and you're also the founder of the NCLU.
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00:06:50.000Kyle Rittenhouse's lawyer asked judge to dismiss charge she was too young to have a gun.
00:06:56.000Rittenhouse's attorney filed a motion asking the judge to dismiss the charge that he was too young to possess a gun under Wisconsin's law, arguing that Rittenhouse's assault-style rifle doesn't fall under the definition of the prohibited short-barreled shotguns and rifles.
00:07:08.000Mark Richards also filed several other arguments, including a dismissal of a video from July 2020 that prosecutors filed motions last week asking a judge to allow as evidence.
00:07:18.000Prosecutors said the video shows Rittenhouse hitting a teenage girl in the back of Kenosha's waterfront, but Richards argued the altercation is irrelevant to the case.
00:07:26.000Richards has similarly argued against prosecutors, claiming Rittenhouse has an affiliation with the Proud Boys, which is a... I love how they just say this, is a far-right extremist group.
00:08:10.000We've actually had Richie McGinnis, actually we've had Richie and a bunch of other people who are on the ground and witnesses to what happened.
00:08:16.000Richie laid out everything experienced.
00:08:18.000Richie's actually the journalist who took off, he took off his shirt, right?
00:08:21.000Trying to render aid to one of the guys who got shot.
00:08:56.000He's chased by someone saying, what happened?
00:08:58.000He says, on video you see this, he says, I'm going to get the police.
00:09:01.000Someone yells something about, get him, that's the guy.
00:09:03.000He's then chased, knocked to the ground, and some guy runs up with a skateboard, tries to grab the gun, and Kyle fires upward and it goes into his heart.
00:09:50.000And you know the guy actually said, I want to be careful here because of the litigation around this, but my understanding, I could be wrong, he actually said that he should have shot him.
00:09:58.000Like later in an activist rally he said something to that effect.
00:10:01.000I think it was at his hospital room when he was talking to one of his friends, he said something to the effect that his only regret was that he didn't shoot him and empty his entire magazine.
00:11:01.000The type of AR-15 that Kyle had that night, which is a long barrel AR-15, is completely legal in that state.
00:11:09.000It's legal for Kyle to have had possession of it at that age.
00:11:15.000If that rifle had been shorter, potentially there may have been an argument under that statute that there's an issue.
00:11:24.000Also, if I recall correctly, there's a very strong argument, and I think Mark made it in his motion, that that statute relates to various hunting regulations that have nothing to do with that case.
00:11:35.000Uh, that- that charge should be dismissed.
00:11:37.000It never should have been brought- none of these charges should have been brought.
00:11:39.000But that- that charge- that charge should go away.
00:11:41.000way. Mark Richards is absolutely correct that that charge should be dismissed.
00:11:43.000It was interesting seeing even a lot of conservatives on Twitter mentioning that
00:11:47.000maybe you know some people said he shouldn't have had the gun and they're
00:11:52.000gonna get him because if in the process of committing one crime someone dies
00:11:55.000you get charged for that and then people said you're allowed even if you're not
00:11:59.000allowed to have the gun picking up a gun in self-defense or having one in
00:12:02.000self-defense is exempt. There's a lot of arguments about it but I guess none of
00:12:05.000it matters because the law itself doesn't even apply to what Kyle was doing.
00:12:09.000That law does not apply to that weapon.
00:12:11.000It does not apply in the context of what happened.
00:12:14.000The charge should not have been brought.
00:12:16.000This is a totally, totally political persecution.
00:12:24.000If somehow, someway, these political Soros-funded prosecutors in Kenosha, Wisconsin, get some kind of conviction against Kyle Rittenhouse, It will be a travesty and it will go a long way towards eviscerating the right of self-defense that all of us have.
00:12:41.000Now, I've said in the past, though, I mean, so this looks like any rational argument that a reasonable person might presume is out the window.
00:12:48.000We had a leftist on who said, he actually, this guy Destiny, he got kicked out of the Twitch partner program for saying that it was the clearest case of self-defense he had ever seen.
00:13:48.000From behind him, in his direction, they attempted to ambush him.
00:13:52.000And when Kyle turned around, Joseph Rosenbaum was coming at him at full speed and was literally right on top of him, lunging for the barrel of the weapon, as Richie has noted.
00:14:31.000Yeah, it's it's it's a very, very dangerous.
00:14:35.000I mean, physically dangerous thing for the citizens of these cities, because these because they are essentially choosing outright and announcing that they're not going to be prosecuting all manner of crimes.
00:14:46.000I mean, for example, in San Francisco, and you know, California, essentially, they've said they will not prosecute shoplifting crimes if it's a value of under like $900.
00:14:53.000I mean, so you see the Neiman Marcus video?
00:14:57.000It's just like 10 people running out of the building full speed carrying stacks of stuff.
00:15:01.000Well, that's $9,000 worth of stuff without prosecution.
00:15:04.000Maybe you can call it a conspiracy, but no one's enforcing it.
00:15:07.000There's another video that just started going viral where it's people walking and filling
00:15:11.000up bags casually with no masks on, just filling them up and then just walking out the door.
00:15:16.000It's not rocket science to anticipate the impact that these sorts of policies and these
00:15:21.000sorts of prosecutors will have on the complete breakdown of law and order in these cities.
00:15:26.000And it's happening, and regular Americans see that it's happening, and the left may underestimate regular Americans, but I believe they're going to get punished severely at the ballot box as a result of this.
00:15:39.000Now, after Chauvin, I said, Kyle's going to get life.
00:15:42.000That's what I said after I watched it happen with Chauvin because you had a few very important points there that the defense tried getting the venue changed because of the riots and the judge said everybody in Minnesota knows who this guy is there's no venue where he can go and that to me is astounding because it was an admission that there would be no fair trial in which case case is dismissed free to go because we don't lock people up unless they get a fair trial unless we go through due process what went when that happened
00:16:09.000then you saw the the the jurors being led into the courthouse with
00:16:13.000armed men protect them from the extremists that have been attacking
00:16:16.000brooklyn heights and it was broken center
00:16:18.000brooklyn center yeah clearly these people were being influenced and they even
00:16:22.000admitted it after the fact saying that they were scared well you had
00:16:26.000maxine waters show up right in the middle of it you know demanding that
00:16:30.000everything continued to burn if there wasn't the quote-unquote right uh... you know
00:16:34.000verdict you had Joe Biden, who's advocating for the quote unquote correct
00:16:40.000And his excuse was that, well, jury deliberations had started, so therefore they're sequestered.
00:16:44.000So, you know, that won't impact things.
00:16:45.000I mean, this is, these are things that are fundamental.
00:16:48.000I mean, the criminal and civil jury system in the United States is so fundamental to our freedoms.
00:16:56.000It goes back, you know, to the Magna Carta, et cetera.
00:16:59.000The jury is the, along with, you know, sheriffs at different times and different circumstances, the jury is the last bastion of protection.
00:17:06.000for people who are, you know, wrongfully charged.
00:17:09.000Look, I will say, I'm a jury trial lawyer.
00:17:42.000I don't see, at Wisconsin, an American jury coming back with any other result.
00:17:48.000You know, the big difference between that and Chauvin is, with Chauvin, there was big arguments about the amount of force, whether or not Chauvin should have kept his knee on his back or neck or whichever you perceived it as, that he should have rendered aid immediately when Floyd stopped moving.
00:18:04.000Well, look, with Chauvin, you have the 800-pound gorilla of the nine-minute video that is shown over and over and over again, right?
00:18:14.000That's an extremely tough video to watch, and it's a tough piece of evidence to overcome.
00:18:20.000Kind of the converse, I think you have with Kyle, which is it's probably the first, you know, criminal trial in history where it's literally as if you were watching the Super Bowl and there were 100 different angles of high definition video of everything that was happening that you can sync up.
00:18:36.000There is there is simply no way around the conclusion that there was 100% perfect self-defense.
00:18:41.000Yeah, but you could still get a jury that just says, I'm not falling on that sword.
00:18:45.000I have complete faith in Mark Richards and that jury.
00:18:48.000I think it'll be particularly interesting.
00:18:50.000But let's jump to this next subject, January 6, because, you know, we're talking about George Floyd.
00:18:56.000Somebody tweeted something about conservatives and the double standard.
00:18:59.000There was some conservative who said something about, you know, why don't we know who killed Ashley Babbitt?
00:19:06.000We should have this information released immediately with George Floyd.
00:19:08.000We got this big show trial in the press.
00:19:10.000And then someone said, like, how are conservatives not understanding, you know, the differences between George Floyd and Ashley Babbitt?
00:19:17.000They were like, it's a double standard that they don't care about Floyd, but they only care about her because they're racist.
00:19:21.000And I said, Ashley Babbitt wasn't chewing on a speedball behind the wheel of a car and then actively resisting police.
00:19:28.000I'm like, I'm not saying that, you know, George Floyd deserved or any of that should have happened, but Ashley Babbitt stood up and looked through a window and took a bullet to the neck, right?
00:19:36.000So, first of all, I pray for Ashley Babbitt's family and I pray for them to obtain the justice that they deserve.
00:19:45.000There's all kinds of strange things going on with everything related to January 6th.
00:19:50.000So, specifically with respect to what you just mentioned, you know, was she shot in the stomach?
00:19:57.000There are basically three different stories that have come out, you know, from the medical examiner, from the media, etc.
00:20:06.000You know, the chief of the Capitol Police, who either resigned or was ousted a couple days after the event, a few weeks after his firing or his resignation, wrote an eight-page letter, I think his name is Stephen Sundlund, wrote an eight-page letter to Nancy Pelosi, essentially, you know, writing about what happened that day in sort of an after-action review.
00:20:28.000There is no mention whatsoever of the Ashley Babbitt shooting in that letter.
00:20:39.000The truth is going to come out about everything that happened on January 6th.
00:20:46.000It is going to take some time, but the true January 6th commission is going to be what happens in those Article 3 federal courtrooms whenever we try these cases.
00:20:57.000I represent 13 of these people, and I will tell you that we are taking every single one of these cases to trial.
00:21:04.000We're going to expose exactly what happened that day, how it happened, who's behind it, what happened, etc.
00:21:11.000With respect to the double standard, obviously I need to be a little bit circumspect about the way I talk about the particular cases that I'm a lawyer in, and juries will decide the outcome of those cases.
00:21:24.000But what a lot of Americans are saying, and I think it's undeniable and it's self-evident, is that, you know, where are the pre-dawn raids to round up the hundreds and hundreds of people, the Antifa folks who burned down Kenosha and Portland and Minneapolis and Los Angeles, and in effect held a federal courthouse under siege in Portland for over a hundred days, including attempting, not very effectively, but attempting to burn it down.
00:21:58.000So, you know, we have pre-dawn raids with AR-15s where there are three-year-olds in the house, you know, with folks like, you know, 73-year-old pastors who are Vietnam veterans with no criminal record.
00:22:12.000Where is the priority to protect, like, regular American cities?
00:22:17.000And I think that it's just self-evident, and a lot of Americans see that there seems to be a dual standard of justice right now.
00:22:25.000And think about how dangerous they think that is.
00:22:28.000A fundamental precept of the American system, the American idea, the American Constitution, is that there is equal justice under the law. When the
00:22:37.000faith in that idea starts to crumble, and in fact I would say starts to be shattered, as it is
00:22:43.000right now, that's a very, very dangerous thing for a free society and a constitutional public to
00:23:14.000I'm sorry, it was about yoga or whatever.
00:23:17.000Yeah, they were talking about yoga and birthday parties.
00:23:18.000And of course, as you probably noticed, the journalist who essentially broke the story of Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill on the tarmac has been suicided.
00:23:30.000Well, the journalist who broke the story, this one, I don't think, you know, people look too much into this.
00:24:04.000Two years go by, dude's got nothing left.
00:24:07.000I think, I don't think there's like, we're going to wait six years and then retaliate against him.
00:24:12.000No, I think it's a guy who almost touched the sky and then, you know, with all due respect to his family and his sad story, but I just don't see it.
00:24:20.000Look, obviously I have no first-hand knowledge about it.
00:24:23.000I just do know there is a lengthy count of deaths and suicides in the Clinton past.
00:25:33.000I mean, you know, James Comey held a very sort of famous or infamous, you know, press conference in which he went through sort of, you know, 15 minutes of talking about, you know, how sort of reckless and negligent and bad this was about the emails and then sort of surprisingly at the end sort of dropped the bomb that, you know, it didn't rise to the level of her being prosecuted or whatever.
00:25:53.000But you know that's not something that FBI directors do.
00:25:57.000They have an investigation, they make a recommendation to the Department of Justice as to the evidence,
00:26:26.000I think there's a lot of people who want to believe in a lot of conspiracies.
00:26:30.000You'll see like a meme photo and a list of a bunch of names and then draw lines and connect them.
00:26:34.000Okay, I actually go through those names and I look up the records of the individual where they worked and I've looked into a lot of those memes and I'm like, It's just... You could do this to almost any person in a high-profile position.
00:26:47.000There's this new one going around where the San Francisco Gay Men's Choir, they recorded this video where they said, we're coming for your children.
00:26:55.000I think it's really creepy and purposefully antagonistic, like to an extreme degree, where they started getting serious hate and took the video down.
00:27:02.000But 4chan's coming out and digging up their names from the choir, and then connecting them to the sex offender list.
00:27:10.000I also started—I was like, okay, let's see if some of these things are true.
00:27:14.000And they do these memes, they show the name, they connect the line, and then I—these—it's just—it's not legitimate.
00:27:26.000So you gotta be careful about these meme things that go around because I've tried to dig up stuff on this and it's just not there.
00:27:33.000Look, I used to be, you know, one of these people that whenever you would watch, you know, the Oliver Stone movie, JFK, I'd think, well, that's interesting, you know, but I mean, you know, like, come on.
00:27:43.000Was there really anybody else besides Lee Harvey Oswald?
00:27:48.000I will just tell you that in light of the litigations I have been involved in in the past four to five years with respect to representing George Papadopoulos and Carter Page and Rudy Giuliani and Tulsi and Kyle and now January 6th, There's a lot of narratives that turn out to be just completely and totally fake, and they end up being just destroyed after a period of, you know, three or four months, whether it be, you know, sort of the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
00:28:31.000You know, I'm just in light of the in light of the the things that I am, you know, learning as a lawyer, probably most involved in the January 6 cases.
00:28:41.000And again, you know, we'll let juries decide what happened there.
00:28:45.000They're just they're just there's just a lot of questions.
00:28:46.000With respect to to Ashley Babbitt, we still don't know the name of the individual who fired on her, who shot her.
00:28:53.000Well, I mean, some people think that they know.
00:28:54.000I've seen allegations, but nothing's been confirmed.
00:29:08.000I mean, where's the explanation for why that is?
00:29:10.000I would say because as political imprisonment is a type of thing, so is political protection.
00:29:15.000And both Yeah, and the issue is, look, the issue is if this was kind of, you know, look, just, I mean, imagine, I think, I mean, if it was converse, uh, in terms of the politics, um, I don't think, I don't, I don't think that, um, you know.
00:29:30.000That guy would be, like, strung up in D.C.
00:29:42.000I mean, there was a report from the New York Times where they went, the Portland rioters, where they're marching around, stopped at some guy's house and then started like yelling at him for him to come out.
00:29:52.000They threatened to burn down his home for simply waving an American flag.
00:29:56.000So, of course, we know if there was a bunch of, you know, let's just call them pink hats, like when they shut down the Congressional building that one time and they occupied, or when they're banging on the doors of the Supreme Court trying to get the door open, if one of them took a hit.
00:30:46.000So you can be sure that if the federal prosecutors felt like the elements of the crime of insurrection were met, I'm confident out of 550 cases and counting probably going up to close to 1000 at some point, there would be some such charge.
00:30:58.000For those that are listening and not watching, because we do the podcast, John held up a zero sign.
00:31:10.000I've heard some other rumors too, but just for now, it's like they're gonna set up a couple offices.
00:31:14.000I have a soft prediction in that I think once they get all of the people who are actually in the capital, they're gonna go after material support.
00:31:21.000They're gonna be like, our mission isn't over, we gotta track down these extremists who are providing material support for these individuals who engaged in insurrection, blah blah blah.
00:31:30.000It doesn't seem right now like there is much of an end in sight for a little while there.
00:31:35.000It felt like, and I'm not sure if I felt like I heard this from, you know, the DOJ or from a prosecutor in a public hearing, but it kind of felt like they were preparing to wind down with respect to rounding folks up, you know, that they might charge another hundred or so folks and it might be, you know, five hundred, fifty, six hundred that are charged.
00:31:53.000It seems like they're almost reinvigorated right now with respect to... They need this.
00:32:00.000Well, look, the country's obviously not going very well with respect to inflation and with respect to foreign policy and with respect to all kinds of things.
00:32:09.000So, you know, there's a narrative that... We got an election year coming.
00:32:27.000I'm not an expert, you know, political analyst, but I—look, I mean, the regular people in the middle of this country see what's going on on every front.
00:32:38.000They all want a basic degree of law and order.
00:32:42.000They all don't want to see their gas prices go up to $10 or whatever it might go up to.
00:32:48.000They all want to feel like we do not live in a authoritarian surveillance state.
00:32:52.000So I believe it's going to be a huge red wave in 2022.
00:32:56.000Do you think the Republicans should impeach Joe Biden?
00:34:03.000You know, I'm a huge believer in the rule of law.
00:34:06.000I'm a huge believer in our constitutional republic and in our constitution.
00:34:10.000And, you know, I believe that, you know, the right, conservatives, have to do it in a proper way.
00:34:20.000You know, if it just goes back and forth with everybody just tossing out the Constitution and just using every possible weapon to destroy their political opponent, I mean, there will be no end to it.
00:34:31.000Joe Biden lied about being involved in business dealings with his son.
00:34:35.000Oh, I'm no fan of Joe Biden whatsoever.
00:34:40.000There are photos of Joe Biden standing with Hunter Biden's business partners from Mexico.
00:34:44.000There's the communications, there's the witnesses.
00:34:49.000We can't enter this period where we're like, you know, we have evidence that Joe Biden lied and was engaging in selling his name and power, but we're not going to impeach him because then we'd look like the Democrats for what they did to Trump unjustly.
00:35:02.000Yeah, no, and make no mistake, when I say, you know, sitting here right now for me to advocate impeachment might be a little bit reckless.
00:35:08.000What I'm saying is, you know, I haven't personally taken the time to look, you know, to look at the, you know, the hard drive and to look at the actual evidence.
00:35:15.000You know, obviously, I've heard a lot about that.
00:35:17.000And if the things that, you know, seem to be on the hard drive, which they seem to be, then yes, impeachment would absolutely be appropriate.
00:37:57.000I mean, for them to make the New York Post story about the laptop just go completely dark for, you know, whatever it was, a couple weeks or a month before the election.
00:38:20.000Or is that legal then because it's American CIA or whatever?
00:38:24.000I gotta tell you, it's not my field of expertise with respect to the law or anything, but it's got to be in violation of some federal criminal statute for a private entity to intentionally try to cover some of that stuff up.
00:38:41.000Actually, as I speak out loud about it, I think one legal theory that has started to come to the fore, which I think is probably a good one, is that it's actually a campaign finance violation.
00:38:50.000And I think there have been lawsuits filed about this because they are, you know, and again, I'm not a campaign finance expert, but certainly what it seems to be is them providing an in-kind contribution to the campaign that is, I assure you, was probably not reported and it was, you know, probably worth it.
00:40:05.000New York Post, why aren't you filing defamation against Facebook and Twitter for claiming that the materials you had were hacked even though you stated several times they were not hacked materials?
00:40:16.000They lied to the public and they used it as a pretext to cause harm to your business.
00:40:20.000You've got clear damages in the amount of views you lost based on the size of the story and the percentage of suppression on the story.
00:40:28.000If they said they're suppressing it, file Some kind of suit against them.
00:41:31.000And I think it seems to have accelerated, even since the inauguration.
00:41:36.000I mean, you know, he's over there, you know, traveling Europe, and I think he was giving a speech before the British military, and it's like, literally, a sentence can't be put together.
00:41:45.000And that's... He was able to say, Trudin on a shot of pressure.
00:41:49.000I mean, that's a hard word for me to say.
00:42:26.000If the New York Post went at Biden, or sued Twitter rather, and then it came out that actually the CIA instructed us to do this, so now would they have immunity?
00:42:37.000God, I mean, there's so many fundamental constitutional issues that it raises.
00:42:44.000If this national security state was involved in that, I don't even know where to begin.
00:42:50.000Isn't it true, though, that Democrats in California were telling Twitter who to ban?
00:42:58.000I have heard that story, and I have to believe it's probably correct.
00:43:04.000Again, with some of these things, I'm so busy with some of these cases that I don't have time to do the same kind of research and really look at the raw data that might be useful.
00:43:17.000But it would shock me if that weren't the case.
00:43:19.000I have to pull it up, because we talked about it before, but basically there were communications between Democrats saying like, hey, look at this, and they're like, oh, we'll get rid of it.
00:43:25.000Look, I think there's no doubt that, look, all of these things are connected.
00:43:31.000I mean, the radical left has overtaken, you know, essentially every major sort of institution in the country from academia to Wall Street to Silicon Valley to, you know, now federal law enforcement.
00:43:52.000As I mentioned to you before the show, I served in the 1st Cavalry Division in the mid-90s, and I was airborne, and I'm extremely proud of that, and I love this country.
00:44:03.000For a four-star general to buy into this critical race theory garbage that is so toxic and so poisonous and is tearing this country apart, it's sickening.
00:44:17.000The United States military has one job, and one job only, that is to close with and destroy the enemies of the United States.
00:44:23.000You know, the most worrying thing to me about what Mark Milley said was that it shows we have a four-star general who is inept and incapable of critical thought.
00:44:32.000Right, so here's a guy who's supposed to be thinking and like analyzing the battlefield and instruct, you know.
00:44:37.000But that should not surprise you in the sense that in a peacetime military, when I say peacetime, I mean, you know, a peacetime military with respect to great power conflict.
00:44:49.000The best and the brightest of the officer corps does not rise to the level of general.
00:44:52.000The best and the brightest of the officer corps, you know, serves their, you know, four years honorably and then, you know, has the ability to go out and do some More creative, interesting things in the private sector.
00:45:02.000You know, the people who rise to the level of general in a peacetime military, you know, as we classically know from the Civil War, are not... Political.
00:45:21.000I mean, look, historically, again, you go back to the Civil War, I mean, the Union had massive problems with terrible generals in the beginning of the Civil War.
00:46:55.000And Julius Caesar being seen as the threat that he was, and being outside of Roman territory, and at that point being a military leader, not a tribune or anything like that, he had the classic choice to make as to whether to cross the Rubicon with his army.
00:47:16.000And he made that choice because he was facing political and probably physical extermination, or he was going to win.
00:47:24.000He was going to win or he was going to lose.
00:47:25.000That was the thing about threatening to impeach and use political things to go after your political opponents is that eventually one of them is going to snap.
00:48:51.000I cannot see one guy doing that right now.
00:48:53.000Certainly 2024 is... I mean, we used to say that 2016 was going to be one of the most important elections ever, and then 2020 was going to be one of the most important elections ever.
00:49:01.0002024 is going to be Extremely, extremely high stakes.
00:49:09.000I happen to believe that, and I like Donald Trump.
00:49:16.000I think he has unfinished business, and I think he can turn the country around.
00:49:20.000I personally believe he is going to win by such a massive margin in 2024 that, you know, we're not going to have issues, and I pray that that's the case.
00:51:39.000And right now we're in this lull year.
00:51:41.000So it feels like everything's maybe chilled a little bit.
00:51:44.000But look what they're doing with the 1-6 commission.
00:51:46.000Look what they're doing with setting up Capitol police offices.
00:51:49.000When we get in the midterms and the Republicans are looking like they're going to win, the Democrats are going to start ripping their hair out and banging their faces on the wall, screaming at the top of their lungs.
00:51:58.0002023, when Trump gets back up on stage and says, ladies and gentlemen, I am running for president one more time.
00:52:03.000And everyone goes, and screams, cheering, and they're throwing drinks in the air, whatever.
00:52:08.000The Democrats will start pulling their hair out again.
00:52:11.000It is going to be worse than we saw in 2016.
00:52:13.000It is going to be worse than we saw in 2020.
00:52:17.000I'm not entirely, I'm saying these things to be pessimistic.
00:52:20.000I'm saying there's going to be a conflict.
00:52:32.000Some national security experts, there was a story, I think it was in the Atlantic, said that they estimated between 35% and like 95% chance of a civil war in the United States, and I thought that was insane.
00:52:40.000It's like 1% to 99% chance of a civil war.
00:52:43.000It was because there was like 16 people interviewed, there was a wide range of what they thought, but the average was something like 65% to 70%.
00:52:52.000So then I have people say to me, they're like, so Tim, remember last year when you were saying that we were headed towards a civil war?
00:54:19.000I think that, you know, like you said, like I think you just said, I mean, regular, I think the left terribly underestimates regular Americans.
00:54:27.000And I think when they think that they have an advantage, they press it and they overreach very much.
00:54:31.000But I've heard a lot, there's been a lot of historical comparisons, so obviously we're talking about Rome and crossing the Rubicon, but I mean, are there really that many similarities, or is it just like a few things that people like to reference, right?
00:54:41.000You talked about lawfare, you talked about... Oh, oh, oh, look, I mean, I think it's...
00:54:48.000One of my second or third favorite podcasters after you, Dan Carlin, has a podcast named Hardcore History, and it's really, you know, amazing.
00:54:56.000And he's, you know, big series on Rome, big series on Genghis Khan, that he calls him, that I love, and Alexander the Great, who I'm a huge fan of.
00:55:03.000But he's fond of saying that, you know, history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it rhymes.
00:55:08.000And it rhymes because human nature is eternal.
00:55:12.000And there are trends and forces that change.
00:55:15.000There are individuals that rise to significance who have such a force of nature that they can alter things.
00:55:24.000So, you know, you can't say, hey, we're exactly in a situation that the Roman Republic is in, and we're heading in the exact same direction and outcome.
00:55:34.000But there are definite, definite similarities, for sure, that we should draw lessons from, you know, and try to avoid, you know.
00:55:43.000A lot of people have likened it to Weimar Germany.
00:55:46.000Yeah, I was thinking about the Reichstag.
00:55:48.000But some people have likened it to the Spanish Civil War.
00:55:52.000I look, I think I think the 1930s comparison to, you know, to the to the threat of the Third Reich is very apt in the following sense, which is, you know, and people are talking about this, some of them, but I don't think enough are.
00:56:05.000But I think that I think that the Chinese Communist Party is an existentially dangerous threat to us and to freedom in the world right now.
00:56:13.000I don't think we're paying enough attention to it.
00:56:15.000I don't think we've been serious enough about it.
00:56:16.000I think we need to completely decouple from China, and we need to isolate them and be building sort of an alliance of liberty that Steve Bannon, one of my other favorite podcasters, likes to say with nations like Japan and India and Australia, and we need to be preparing for things.
00:56:35.000One of the things about the German, how it reminds me of Weimar Germany, is the burning of the Reichstag, which happened right after Hitler got into power, I think it was 1933.
00:56:42.000The building, the Capitol Parliament building, burned down.
00:56:48.000Apparently no one's been able to prove, and they've done the math, and they're like, there's no way one guy could light the whole building on fire.
00:56:54.000But it's an American conspiracy theory.
00:56:55.000So theories have arrived that he burned his own Reichstag down and then used that as a reason to lock down the entire country and start stripping them of their civil rights.
00:57:04.000What was the special security bill that was passed because of that?
00:58:09.000I have one client named Alan Hostetter, you know, former police chief from Orange County, and he might be someone you want to have on the show someday to talk all about this because he's happy to talk all about it.
00:58:18.000But, you know, he is an individual, you know, who seems to have had federal agents around him for a long time leading up to January 6th.
00:58:28.000And so, you know, there's just serious, serious questions.
00:58:32.000There's numerous videos where the police open the door to allow people in and They were urging people.
00:58:39.000Sometimes they were letting people in sometimes they were urging cops are taking selfies with people
00:58:43.000They're like hey in one video cop says don't agree with it But I agree with your right to protest as people walk past
00:58:50.000them waving so it could have The police were in on it.
00:58:52.000disorganization or it could have been intentionally like hey we can use this as an excuse to impose
00:58:58.000I think I think y'all are missing the bigger picture the police were in on it each and
00:59:02.000every one of those capital police officers were like no we're gonna let all of our Trump
00:59:39.000Haven't you seen the episode of Simpsons where I think it's Wiggum or someone tells Homer that if someone enters your property, you can kill him.
01:00:03.000Like, someone, you're like three levels into the movie Inception.
01:00:07.000Yeah, so I'm the cop and it's not that I'm like, hey, come over here and go in.
01:00:11.000I'm like, these people are going to break me up.
01:00:13.000If someone is at the front of your building and they have, like, weapons and they're threatening you and so you're scared and you open your door, then I understand.
01:00:20.000In these videos, quite literally, it's a bunch of old people doting about, waving little American flags, and the police just open the door up, stand aside, and say, don't agree with it, but agree with your right to protest as people walk in.
01:00:33.000There's another video where the cop literally just opens the door, and one cop poses for a selfie with people!
01:00:38.000Like, dude, you're not gonna tell me that's duress.
01:00:39.000Now, I think those cops got in trouble, right?
01:00:42.000I don't know the answer to that question.
01:00:45.000I do know there's another video that just came out that appears to show folks sort of frantically changing into, you know, different attire, sort of better trees.
01:00:57.000There's a video where one of the first breaches in the building, they were all in black clad, you know, blackout gear to obscure who they were and their identities.
01:01:04.000And that's not a typical thing of Trump supporters.
01:01:08.000But there were a bunch of Trump supporters who said they were going to dress like Antifa.
01:01:12.000The key thing is, and again, I have to discipline myself to be careful about talking about the merits of these cases, but the important thing is, where's the video?
01:01:21.000Where's the 14,000 or 15,000 hours of video?
01:01:25.000Now, to be fair, the Department of Justice and the prosecutors say, and I believe that they are in the process of setting up a massive database in the cloud that will have all that video that will allow Defense Counsel to search through it.
01:01:41.000That is still gonna take a long time to get set up and it's gonna take a massive amount of time to review all of that because we need to review all of it to understand, you know, what happened that day.
01:01:55.000I also believe we should be seeing some video from before and after that day.
01:02:00.000I mean, you know, why is it just relevant?
01:02:03.000You know, what the video shows for January 6th, January 5th, and January 7th.
01:02:08.000I think it's important to point out there were violent people.
01:02:41.000There were people there engaging in very bad activities, right?
01:02:45.000But there are a lot of people who are being charged when they were essentially welcomed into the building, confused and not understanding what was going on.
01:02:51.000That is just accurate, what you just said.
01:02:54.000And you know, very interestingly, and I'm not a fan of FBI Director Christopher Wray.
01:02:59.000I mean, when Christopher Wray was asked questions by, I forget which Republican congressman it was, and asked, hey, constituents in my district are wondering about these people who were, you know, ushered into the building and that they're being charged.
01:03:12.000You know, how many people are there like that?
01:03:14.000And, you know, in classic Christopher Wray fashion, you know, he dodged and ducked and prevaricated and simply would not, just simply would not go there and would not even remotely answer the question.
01:04:19.000There's actually an interesting legal issue on that front, which we've filed, you know, some motions on in our cases, which is that it is actually unclear under the existing case law as to whether or not, you know, that process that day, the certification of the electoral votes actually qualifies as legally and technically an official proceeding as that is interpreted under the case law.
01:04:41.000Because those have to have a quasi-judicial function to them that it can be argued did not exist that day.
01:04:54.000But I really believe, and I've said many times, I think the institutions that really fell down in all of this, so to speak, are the state legislatures, especially including GOP-controlled state legislatures.
01:05:08.000Because the Constitution is designed to avoid something like this, and it's very clear.
01:05:14.000If there are any questions, the state legislatures can and should, not on January 6th, we're talking about back in December when the Electoral College meets in the states, they are allowed to, very clearly under the Constitution, simply not send a slate of electors because they feel there are questions.
01:05:36.000If that occurs, and if no candidate gets 270 electoral votes, it goes to the House under the 12th Amendment, where each state delegation gets one vote, and there is a process.
01:06:11.000They considered themselves actually to be kind of liberal, but didn't really pay attention to politics.
01:06:15.000Trump came along and he was saying the things they wanted to hear, and so for the first time they were voting.
01:06:19.000A lot of people like that joined the Republican Party.
01:06:22.000This started to change things, and the establishment Republicans who had a bunch of A bunch of people who would vote R no matter what for whatever reason, just because they were tribalist, were upset by it.
01:06:31.000Trump is bombastic, he's... He rocks the boat.
01:06:34.000Yeah, he rocks the boat, he's demanding, he commandeered the shit, and they were more than happy to get rid of him.
01:06:39.000Well, there's no question about that, and I do think those new folks, those populist folks, are ascendant in the Republican Party, and I'm one of them, and I hope that they are.
01:06:48.000But, you know, I know you're from Chicago, I'm from Western Pennsylvania, and you recall there was a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
01:06:58.000So for 55, whatever the number was, for 55,000 people to show up yelling and screaming at the top of their lungs for Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
01:07:08.000Okay, Western Pennsylvania is historically a very, you know, old-school kind of FDR labor Democrat type of type of area, you know, conservative, socially conservative, but very Democrat.
01:07:19.000For that many people to show up that ferociously, frenetically enthusiastic for Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania speaks volumes.
01:07:26.000And I think that rally in 2024 might be, you know, two or three times that size.
01:07:30.000Have you heard about those books, about Barron Trump and the last president?
01:07:44.000What if, like, we're just totally misunderstanding what's going on, and what's actually gonna happen is in 20 years, Barron Trump, who's this, like, 6'10", you know, guy, runs for president.
01:08:28.000And a lot of people are like, how did something like that happen?
01:08:32.000So I'll call it a gag conspiracy theory, but there are people who genuinely believe like time travelers went back in time or something like that, something ridiculous.
01:08:39.000I was talking to Will Chamberlain, it was really funny, because I was like, there's a conspiracy theory that people travel, time travel, you know, go back in time to stop Donald Trump.
01:08:47.000And he goes, that's what you do with time travel?
01:08:51.000Like, of all the things you could stop, the killing fields?
01:11:04.000But I think... The Native American guy dies?
01:11:07.000No, I think the three that survive are the Mexican guy, who was a vendor being called a Texican, but he was a Mexican guy, and then Denzel survives, and the Native American, Red Harvest survives.
01:14:33.000When the left needs to regain control from Antifa, then they'll make, you know, Red Dawn U.S.
01:14:40.000When their own starts to get eaten, which always happens with that kind of political philosophy.
01:14:44.000But, you know, look, with respect to buildings being burned down, and you probably know more about this than I do, but I mean, with respect to, like, Kenosha, for example, I mean, you know, there were houses, there were multi-level houses Yeah.
01:15:28.000You know, and that's totally unconstitutional.
01:15:30.000I mean, that violates the guarantee of a Republican with a little R government.
01:15:36.000Yeah, well, the police took away your right to defend yourself.
01:15:39.000And now that you can't, the extremists and the criminals and the rule breakers and the law breakers can do what they want.
01:15:45.000Then when their political allies take the DA, the police don't even go after the crimes that are more extreme.
01:15:51.000It almost sounds like a system we're playing.
01:15:57.000Yeah, you were saying earlier the tracks we're on is dangerous.
01:16:01.000I think you're right, because we can't talk about certain things on YouTube.
01:16:05.000Not that YouTube's the only place to have content, like we can talk about it on TimCast.com or whatever, but...
01:16:10.000There's things we can't talk about regarding the chaos that is disturbing, that we can't debate, dissect, analyze.
01:16:20.000It's very unsettling as Americans to have that sensation.
01:16:25.000I mean, you know, I'm much older than anybody in the room, I think.
01:16:28.000But I mean, you know, even, look, growing up and even I'm sure when you were growing up, I mean, the sensation in America was that you could like, you know, really, you know, argue it out and hash it out and like stay up all night in college and like debate anything and talk about anything as long as, you know, as long as you're civil to the other person.
01:16:45.000Do you remember Skokie, Illinois in the ACLU?
01:16:49.000I know that there is something very relevant with respect to Skokie and the ACLU, but I can't put my mind on it right now.
01:16:55.000It was a bunch of neo-Nazis who were marching through a Jewish neighborhood and the ACLU defended them.
01:16:59.000And that's exactly, so that's a perfect example, and thank you for reminding me, of why I started the NCLU.
01:17:05.000Because the only way to preserve the Constitution is to fight for the rights of those who you despise the most when it comes to their I did not see that.
01:17:14.000And right now it happens to be, it is conservatives that are needing protection right now, but
01:18:48.000It's pretty electrostatic or electro-elastic.
01:18:50.000I mean, this was known as... Hydrofluoric acid.
01:18:53.000I mean, what you're talking about is the same as what used to be called critical legal theory, which became actually pretty ascendant at Harvard Law School a couple decades ago.
01:19:52.000So now with critical race theory, you have oppressed and oppressors, and the white people are the oppressors, and the people of color are the oppressed.
01:19:59.000And is the theory that if you were to remove white people from the equation, that there would no longer be an oppressor?
01:20:05.000That white people need to recognize their privilege and give up their power.
01:20:10.000It's meaningless because you can't take your skin color off.
01:20:13.000So the idea ultimately is that you will always be an oppressor, no matter what.
01:20:17.000All of which, of course, is precisely why we have certain laws that just explicitly outlaw this kind of thing.
01:20:25.000And it's fascinating to watch some of these state and local governments and corporations attempt to implement laws that are so flatly Uh, illegal and contrary to, like, the civil rights laws, you know, that were passed in the 1960s, but, you know, and they think that they can just get away with it, and they will, unless they're challenged.
01:21:00.000They were very critical of the Democrats.
01:21:02.000First of all, you had the Democrats that were pro-segregation, and then also the Democrats started to say, okay, well maybe we'll get behind these bills for a variety of reasons.
01:21:09.000And there was a letter circulated during the Ferguson riots among activists that argued segregation was a plot by white Democrats to force black people to exist underneath the economics of the white system.
01:21:24.000So what these activists were saying when they were writing this letter, before the end of segregation, when everything was separated, they said black people had their own wealth, their own neighborhoods, their own communities, their own churches, they had their own Wall Street.
01:21:38.000Along comes the Democrats and say, hey, we should end segregation.
01:21:43.000And as soon as that happened, you have these two systems where, yes, you have a lot of very wealthy white people, but the black community was building up their wealth.
01:21:49.000Now they're forced to exist at a lower economic standard to the white people.
01:21:53.000What they were basically arguing was, when you had segregation, a black person would run their own restaurant.
01:21:59.000With the end of segregation, the black person would go work for the white man's restaurant.
01:22:17.000Well, and they hate Martin Luther King.
01:22:21.000But they know that he's popular among liberals, and the liberals are the ones they can exploit.
01:22:25.000So they say things like, yay Dr. King, and I always say this to my woke friends, Martin Luther King Jr., Dr. King, he said, I have a dream that one day my four little children will be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
01:23:01.000You're getting a lot of leftists who have no problem criticizing him because it's becoming so prominent and prevalent that they're now much more free to do so.
01:23:09.000We talked about this book that's being taught in school.
01:23:13.000It's a children's book where a little white girl is exposed to the truth by her teachers about race and she's angry with her mom who lied to her and she screams, I'm tired of you lying to me, mom!
01:23:36.000They're teaching this to children in dozens of schools, but in many of these schools, once they get to that portion where it shows the white person as the devil, they stop.
01:23:45.000They don't show it, and they say, you can read the rest of the book on your own.
01:24:22.000Well, I think these parents and these moms are starting to stand up in these school board meetings, which I think is a very good thing.
01:24:27.000I think when I was driving down here, I went through Loudoun County, which is, of course, where they wanted to shut down debate and they dragged out, the sheriff's deputies dragged out the parents who wanted to actually finish the period of debate that was called for, right?
01:24:45.000But, you know, look, the way that these things are going to turn around is that people, you know, people who love this country and, you know, moms at a certain point will protect their kids.
01:24:54.000But these folks are going to start running for the school board and they're going to start running for local offices.
01:24:58.000And, you know, I mean, good people have to, good people have to get in politics and run for office because that's, I mean, look, that's where the real power is.
01:25:04.000That's where the real change comes from is where you can actually take your pen and you can sign, you know, a piece of legislation.
01:25:09.000And, you know, I think that's starting to happen.
01:25:11.000It certainly feels like it's starting to happen.
01:25:13.000I'm starting to think that this 100-year experiment of public school systems is showing its cracks, its flaws, and the dangers of putting your kids in a foreign environment and just letting things happen to them.
01:25:25.000Strangers can tell your kids whatever and you'll know.
01:25:45.000I mean, it's just it's just I mean, there are states like, you know, I suppose New York and California come to mind where I mean, the public education, you know, the public school system seems to be it seems to be disastrous.
01:25:56.000I mean, I think the solution is probably multifaceted.
01:25:58.000I mean, it involves some degree of school choice.
01:26:00.000It involves some degree of You know, getting the funds actually where they need to be to make sure that you can reduce class sizes and, you know, get good teachers in there.
01:26:08.000But yeah, I mean, we cannot have a system in this country where, you know, and I'm very fortunate that my kids, you know, go to an amazing private school, but you cannot have a system where, you know, a certain number of elite kids, you know, have teachers who are kindergarten teachers with PhDs and they have an amazing experience and then you have You know, the masses of people whose kids are not only in physical danger, but they're being indoctrinated like this.
01:28:01.000Look, I think that you're going to have people who want to live a certain way and believe in certain things are going to start self-selecting out of the cities and to be in places that seem safer and in which they're not attacked for having a MAGA hat on.
01:28:19.000And, you know, I think that, you know, and obviously with with COVID and the way folks have gotten more used to working remotely, I think it's going to accelerate that trend.
01:28:27.000And that and that and that could lead to further, you know, that could lead to further division in the country because, you know, I think we're going to have people sort of segregating themselves away from each other because there's just too much volatility right now.
01:28:39.000Yeah, you know, we're going to go tomorrow, see a movie, hang out, have some candy and popcorn.
01:28:45.000Then we're going to just relax and enjoy a Saturday.
01:29:28.000You can play guitar, but it's like within certain hours, because you hear the pounding on the floor, then... And unless you're really good, your neighbors are going to complain.
01:29:35.000Yeah, they're gonna complain no matter what.
01:29:37.000They don't always complain if you're really good.
01:29:39.000I lived, I lived in an apartment where someone in the building worked graveyard shift and they're always like, it's like 5pm and they're like, excuse me, I understand.
01:29:46.000But look, man, I got to sleep and we're like, we'll do our best because we're trying to be nice.
01:29:51.000I listened to Hardcore History and you know, listen to the stories about how Alexander the Great's mom was, you know, like super difficult sometimes and then after.
01:30:00.000After he died from partying too hard, there was like literally like 40 years of warfare among his generals to try to sort things out, which makes you feel like, you know, it could be worse.
01:30:17.000You know, I don't think anybody knows for sure.
01:30:20.000I would be surprised if he wasn't at this point.
01:30:23.000Look, he had put together the largest empire that the world had seen at that point.
01:30:31.000And so there was a lot of folks with a lot of motivations to do such a thing.
01:30:37.000Look, clearly he seemed to like to have a good time as well.
01:30:43.000Um, you know, and so who knows for sure, um, with respect to the, you know, the amount of alcohol that, you know, he, he was, uh, you know, supposed to consume.
01:30:50.000Um, but, but no, I would say that the, I would say that the consensus among serious historians is that yes, he was.
01:30:58.000He had led all his generals across Persia and was conquering the world, and they were like, OK, we did it.
01:31:05.000Yeah, they got basically halfway through India, and they're kind of looking around at the Himalayan mountains and the snow, and they're like, OK, seriously, what's the point?
01:31:15.000My assumption was he was like, we're going to go forever.
01:31:18.000And they were like, no, we're going to, we have to stop him.
01:31:22.000He's one of the most, I mean, he's one of those fascinating personalities in history and he had an insatiable appetite to conquer everything.
01:31:28.000He was, he was, uh, you know, tutored from a young age by what was it?
01:31:32.000Um, you know, his, his, his, his mother, his father was one of the most powerful figures of his age that handed him like a Ferrari of an army that was tailor made to take, to take over Persia.
01:31:44.000And his mother is one of the most, you know, sort of powerful, fascinating, manipulative, you know, female characters in the ancient period, for sure.
01:31:55.000And so, yeah, the Alexander Great Story is a good one.
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01:32:08.000All right, the first and most important question.
01:32:10.000Hutch the Wolf says, hey, what happened to the stream last night?
01:32:13.000Well, we have to be very careful because YouTube is communist, so it's on Rumble.
01:32:17.000So, it's on Rumble, and it's on iTunes and Spotify and all the podcast platforms, but it ain't on YouTube, and that's YouTube's fault, so...
01:32:46.000They've been looking for dark matter for like two decades.
01:32:49.000And now that I'm studying quantized inertia, I'm wondering if maybe, you know, there's lots of ways to look at something that exists.
01:32:56.000So like this ball of obsidian, you could write different theories explaining the existence of this ball of obsidian from different layers, like one's the cellular theory of behavior, one's the atomic theory of behavior, one's the subatomic theory.
01:33:08.000And they're all right, even though they all are different.
01:33:11.000So I wonder if dark matter could be explained and there could be theories that explain reality without it.
01:33:20.000The only thing I can contribute to that answer is that I think if Australia develops it, there could be a lot worse people that develop it.
01:33:45.000So if you're, if you're like a, uh... Well, and they've also, they've also started to, you know, just explicitly, uh, provide more benefits to folks who are not white, whether it be getting a COVID vaccine first or it be certain, you know, financial benefits.
01:34:36.000Yep, so people need to, uh... I can't tell you what the most effective thing to do, but organizing.
01:34:42.000You know, understanding protest, understanding your power in media, understanding your power in industry.
01:34:47.000You know, this is the funny thing about, like, January 6th.
01:34:49.000These people think, and I get these comments from people where they're like, we have to fight, it's the only way, and I'm like, oh, that'll give you control of, like, institutions and colleges?
01:35:38.000And there's probably a political component where they're like, hey, if liberals can't see it happening, they'll just assume the narrative is true.
01:35:44.000If people watch that video, they're gonna be like, this guy's defending himself.
01:35:48.000It makes logical sense because every single video shows that he was defending himself.
01:35:51.000Remember, there's like thousands of videos showing it, it's not just one.
01:35:54.000He was on the ground, the guy was about to smash his head with a skateboard, could have killed the guy.
01:36:48.000If you're supposed to be there or you're defending your community.
01:36:51.000More importantly, though, just because there's a group of unruly, unlawful people doesn't mean you as a citizen have no right to exist and bear arms.
01:37:04.000So if I'm walking down... I mean, based on what you're saying, Ian, no one in Chicago should be allowed to have guns, period.
01:37:09.000It's kind of that argument of, if you go into a cage with a bunch of hungry bears and the bears attack you, are you going to blame the bears for attacking you?
01:37:17.000Or are you going to blame the guy for getting in the bear cage?
01:37:21.000Similar with what Andy Ngo was experiencing.
01:38:18.000There's a bunch of bears in it right now.
01:38:20.000You're going to need some help to clear out the bears and in a very, you know, safe way.
01:38:24.000But if your family was in there and it was like, your medicine was in there, let's say you're a diabetic and your insulin's in the fridge and you're going to die.
01:40:13.000Victor G says, amazing how blue-pilled Tim is on conspiracies and then cannot understand how people can be so blind about how corrupt the media is.
01:40:22.000Actually, I think you, sir, are the one who is blue-pilled.
01:40:25.000If there is something as such as, like, overly red-pilled, I don't know, but there is an idea that when you take the red pill, you wake up from the Matrix.
01:40:33.000But you cannot claim that you've seen a meme and looked at circumstantial evidence and it's been enough to prove something definitively.
01:40:41.000There is a meme that's gone around for a long time about the Clintons, and it lists all of these names.
01:40:47.000I have gone through a ton of these names and been like, that's the stupidest attempt at connecting somebody.
01:40:52.000It's like, this one firm once handled a bank account for Bill Clinton and their receptionist.
01:41:38.000Like, if they wanted to stop him from writing the- like, if they were mad about what he was reporting, wouldn't they stop the book from coming out?
01:42:43.000Twitter, however, I have complete disdain for, and I tweet nonsense.
01:42:46.000Like, I don't, I don't, maybe I'm still, maybe that's worse.
01:42:50.000Because I'm giving Twitter the best content, you know what I mean?
01:42:53.000Like, if I was going to tweet things like, breaking news, you know, Donald Trump did this.
01:42:57.000Okay, I guess that's like, you know, legitimate, serious content.
01:42:59.000Instead I'm posting pictures of goats and stuff, just like, yeah, look at this.
01:43:02.000Look at this, a deer trying to eat my pawpaw.
01:43:04.000Because I can say one can tell that you're sort of messing with the universe with your tweets sometimes, which is very fascinating, as opposed to Cassandra's just full on attack mode.
01:43:15.000Following Cassandra is the best it is.
01:43:21.000Noah Zork says, although I consider myself an amateur sleuth, I believe I can say with some certainty that the person that fired on Ashley Babbitt was on the other side of the glass.
01:43:29.000I mean, there's a video of it, isn't there?
01:43:32.000Of the specific... I don't know, is there an actual video of the guy holding the gun, releasing the chamber, or is it like you just kind of see where the guy is and then...
01:43:40.000No, there is video of his hands holding the firearm.
01:43:47.000He also, I will note, that he interestingly, I think, removes one of his hands from the firearm and seems to take it to his earpiece that you cannot see.
01:43:59.000But that seems to be the natural conclusion.
01:44:01.000There are a lot of questions about January 6th.
01:44:05.000There are a lot of questions about that incident as well.
01:44:08.000Alright, Zach Goo says, I work at a large trucking company.
01:45:03.000Threw him in a pot with some olive oil, and then I poured the fresh eggs over the top and let the egg just... Those cherry tomatoes, they just pop there.
01:45:27.000When people are worried about... There's been food shortages, oil shortages, trucker shortages, gas stations are starting to run dry across the country.
01:46:23.000Technically, yeah, but it's not worth it to do it that way.
01:46:26.000You just charge the one up, then switch it over and switch it over and switch it over because you'll get some like diminishing returns.
01:46:31.000I heard your discussion about gold on your last show, and a lot of people think about that when it comes to the apocalypse scenario, but your discussion of that was very persuasive, that that's not really where you want to go.
01:46:43.000But I don't think the apocalypse is going to happen.
01:46:45.000Gold is excellent if you think there's going to be an economy.
01:46:58.000It's useful as a medium of exchange in a at least marginally functioning society.
01:47:03.000But other than that, it's like food and water and weapons.
01:47:07.000And we have been marginally functioning throughout the last 4,000, 6,000, 8,000 years, even though there's been catastrophe and war, we still continue to function.
01:49:29.000Because if they had gotten into altercations and fought people, it would have been the worst optical... There's video of the cops letting them in.
01:49:35.000Yeah, they were ordered probably to not get involved and just be as passive as possible.
01:49:39.000It's obvious that Donald... It's obviously Donald Trump told all the police, you know, I'm the back the blue president, and they were like, you got it, and the cops were like, we're gonna make this happen.
01:49:49.000Ooh, that's another conspiracy theory.
01:49:57.000Police let people in and helped facilitate the insurrection.
01:50:00.000Let's round up all these Capitol cops.
01:50:03.000Now the cops that were defending the Capitol, okay, you guys are free to go.
01:50:06.000And the cops that refused to intervene or open the doors, we gotta get those cops rounded up and investigated, don't we?
01:50:13.000I think that there's, from a factual standpoint, there is no question that there were Capitol Hill police that were not just letting people in, but were urging people to come in.
01:50:22.000And I think that there are very direct and tough cross-examination questions that need to be asked of each one of those individuals.
01:51:05.000It's about a bunch of people, they're chilling, and then all of a sudden a portal opens and people from the future come back to the past saying, we are losing a war against aliens and we're going to draft people from the past to fight in the future because we're desperate.
01:51:31.000They send him and a bunch of middle-aged people to the future.
01:51:34.000At some point, someone notes, you notice that all the soldiers that came to the past are very young, and all the people that go to the future are very old, and they go, oh, they're trying to avoid a paradox, so that someone in the past doesn't interact with themselves in the future, and the people who come to the past haven't been born yet.
01:51:51.000And I'm like, oh, except in the movie, everyone's dead in the future.
01:52:06.000In the movie, turns out Chris Pratt's daughter is his little girl, and then he gets drafted into the future, and sure enough, the colonel in command, it's his daughter!
01:52:20.000And she goes, well, when people start getting knocked off, you wear a lot of names or whatever.
01:52:25.000Basically implying that you become colonel when everyone else is killed in the war.
01:52:30.000Which is to imply most of the soldiers are dead.
01:52:34.000Why would they draft a bunch of middle-aged fat people like this fat guy to go and fight in a war unless all of their frontline infantry had actually died already?
01:52:43.000In which case, people from the past who are actually in the military Would be the ones to be drafted.
01:52:56.000Also, what if they pulled someone's dad into the future and got him killed in war before he had the kid that was the soldier from the future?
01:53:10.000I'm not sure if it's because it's getting late or not, but you're just, it's now like above... Your mind's moving faster than mine is on this one.
01:53:18.000Oh, dude, I already rewrote the whole movie after watching it.
01:54:58.000Like, if you want to get a private plane, it still takes time to go to the airport, charter the plane, get the permissions, get on the runway, you're waiting in line.
01:55:09.000So, here's what's happening with the website dev.
01:55:11.000I can go to the developers and say, I will give you all the money in the world, and they say, there's still only so much work a person can do in development.
01:55:19.000You can't have 10 people designing one thing because then you've got a bunch of code conflicting with each other and no one knows what someone else is building.
01:55:26.000So it actually has diminishing returns.
01:55:28.000So there's like actually a happy medium of how many people you can have developing something.
01:55:35.000We want to have so you can listen to the bonus podcasts.
01:55:39.000We're going to be doing audio only versions with all the members podcasts for people who want lower bandwidth and want to listen in areas without high speed and stuff like that.
01:55:47.000I think Rumble already offers a low-bandwidth version as well, but we want to do an audio-only.
01:55:53.000So, websites first, then the mobile app, but we're going to have a ton of crazy content.
01:55:58.000We are going to have, like, we already have technically three shows.
01:56:01.000You have Tim Pool Show, which is me monologuing, Tim Guest IRL, which is the conversations, we have Cast Castle, which is the vlog, the next one we're doing is the Unexplained and the Paranormal and all that stuff.
01:56:11.000It's going to be epic, and that should be starting up in the next month or so.
01:56:16.000And then we're going to be doing tech, gaming, all sorts of stuff.
01:56:19.000We're probably going to do like true crime, obviously, but we're going to have a bunch of different shows.
01:56:26.000Oh, yeah, but we need weird technology.
01:56:28.000So the interesting thing is, I think there's an overlap with you, Ian, in like the unexplained show, but there's got to be like the wild world of science with Ian kind of thing.
01:56:37.000So where do you guys stand on like the UFO revelations with these Pentagon videos?
01:56:42.000I think they're really using it as an opportunity to raise money for the military right now as like a kind of a scare tactic.
01:56:49.000But also I've been studying these things called talking plasma balls that the military's been working on, where they'll coordinate lasers, three or more, into the atmosphere to trisect them and create a ball of plasma, which is showing up on radar.
01:57:02.000And then they can move the ball around and they're like, how does this, how can a ship even move like that?
01:57:10.000I think it's Tesla tech that they've recovered and I've been working on lightweight drones since the 30s or 40s Yeah, you ever point a laser pointer at a wall when a cat was in the room and the laser pointers moving like in ridiculous ways Yeah, because you can just like move the light and the cats just like freaking out like how is it doing this?
01:57:34.000But even if it's plasma, whatever it is, it could literally just be that they're in a plane, and it's a high-powered visible laser moving, and then it disappears, and they're like, whoa!
01:57:44.000And it's like, you're looking at a light, dude!
02:00:38.000Uh, this one's mostly for the skate park dwelling denizens, skate park denizens.
02:00:42.000But, uh, if you go to TimCast.com and click store, we have stickers and shirts that it's the Gadsden Snake wearing a beanie on a skateboard and says, don't snake me, bro.
02:00:51.000So it's a play on, obviously, don't tread on me and also don't tase me, bro.
02:01:47.000We got here trick God says Tomorrow war you forget that Pratt's generation would be useless to the present trying to prepare for a future war Recall that the present still needs to fight I saw the best meme ever.
02:02:01.000It's Chris Pratt from the Tomorrow War holding his gun, which is a short-barreled rifle with magnification on it, and they're going through, like, why someone would be using this weapon, and then it's like, it's like someone from the- I can't break it down for you perfectly, but it's like someone from the future comes to the past and goes to a gun store, and they're like, we need weapons to fight a war.
02:02:21.000And they're like, okay, so I'd imagine you're gonna want, you know, like an AR-15, you know, standard.
02:02:27.000No, no, I want a short barreled rifle.
02:02:44.000And they move around so fast that you'd never actually be able to see them in those circular, like, magnification things, because you've got to line it up.
02:02:53.000I wasn't panked, but you know what really bothered me about that movie is the infinite bullets they had.
02:02:58.000They did not seem to have to reload very often, if ever.
02:03:01.000See, this is why I really like Stargate SG-1.
02:03:04.000They use P90s, and they're often in a lot of close-quarter situations, and they often are reloading.
02:03:11.000And they actually explain P90s and the 50-round magazine.
02:03:18.000I think tomorrow we're producers and I could be your biggest fans after tonight.
02:04:25.000No, like they knew gun people would make a thing of it.
02:04:28.000Don't you also think with some of the movies that are on the streaming platforms like Netflix and Amazon that sometimes they're trying to get the content out so fast that they don't put the same kind of time into things that they used to?
02:04:39.000I think that's what happened with The Tomorrow War.
02:04:41.000That was a conclusion I reached because I watched it too and I reached a lot of the same conclusions Tim did and I was watching it and I was like, I bet Tim is overanalyzing every single bit of this stupid movie but at least Chris Pratt is in it.
02:04:54.000Oh, I saw this move some Roman show about the Romans and they were like handling they were getting charged by the barbarians and they're like testudo and they all went into their their arrow protection testudo turtle form where they're like, but it's not how you handle a charge at all.
02:05:07.000You'd get wiped out if you were in testudo formation.
02:05:09.000So they then the charge came and they were like falling on top of their just so and all the comments like what who?
02:05:14.000What historian is on staff with this movie crew that told them a test?
02:05:19.000So we've got a pretty tough question for you before we sign off.
02:05:40.000Um, you know, and I'm just going to leave it at that because, you know, there could be pending litigation about that, but that's completely a thousand percent, uh, untrue and never do such a thing.
02:05:48.000And I wish nothing but the best for Kyle and he's completely innocent and needs to be, uh, acquitted.
02:05:52.000I do want to say one thing to a lot of people too, that you need to understand, and I'll, and I'll throw a reference to Carl Benjamin and Akilah Hughes's lawsuit.
02:05:59.000Sargon of, Sargon of Akkad, you may know him.
02:06:01.000Um, he got sued and he kept his mouth shut about what was going on and let the courts handle it.
02:06:07.000I'm not saying anything about this or whatever that case may be, but I think there's something to be said for people who say, I'm gonna keep it, you know, quiet, we're gonna let the courts figure things out, and for people who go on social media and start saying, this is what happens, what happens, what happened.
02:06:22.000Not to say anybody's right or wrong, but I think it's important that, especially in things like this, Look, I'll just put it this way.
02:06:29.000I've got my fair share of litigation, and I never talk about it.
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02:09:19.000But there's interesting things we can do with it in terms of politics, like having someone drop a scenario pertaining to American political conflict, but in a D&D kind of game.
02:09:28.000Tomorrow we're gonna go see Black Widow!