Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Lawyers Asks Jury To DESTROY Alex Jones Company, Jones Ordered To Pay 45M w-Tucker Max

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00:00:39.000 the jury in the Alex Jones defamation monetary damages hearing has awarded the

00:00:57.000 families $45 million.

00:01:01.000 Now, my understanding, we've got a couple articles, there's punitive damages that they're capped at two times the damages plus $750,000, which means Alex Jones with compensatory damages is on the hook for about $13 million.

00:01:14.000 I don't know how much that's going to impact him.

00:01:16.000 He says that's devastating, but the crazy thing about the story is that the lawyer asked the jury to destroy InfoWars.

00:01:24.000 That's what he said.

00:01:25.000 He said, destroy his platform, and I'm paraphrasing by the way, destroy his platform and make sure he cannot rebuild it.

00:01:32.000 Considering the rare circumstance where a default ruling was presented, Jones never had a jury trial, the right to defend himself, a lot of people are saying this is The whole thing was just an attempt to destroy Infowars because, well, Alex Jones backed Trump, uses his platform to call out things like Epstein, and, uh, well, that's what they're saying it's about.

00:01:54.000 I think it's fair to point out that Alex Jones was wrong about what he said about the Sandy Hook families, and even his own employees brought it up, but this seems to be This is get it's just absolutely it's a crazy story, so we'll talk about that and then man We got to talk about this other story too because it's just it's going crazy in the media I talked about at 4 p.m.

00:02:11.000 It's video out of Vegas of an Asian store clerk at a smoke shop and Some guy jumps the counter and then the clerk just knifes him and it looks like the dude gets killed so We're going to talk about all of that.

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00:02:57.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this news and more is Tucker Max.

00:03:02.000 What's up?

00:03:02.000 Do you want to introduce yourself for those who may not know who you are?

00:03:06.000 Let's see.

00:03:07.000 I've written four New York Times bestsellers.

00:03:09.000 Hope They Serve Beer in Hell is the famous one.

00:03:12.000 But right now I'm pretty boring, man.

00:03:13.000 I live on a ranch outside of Austin with four kids and a bunch of animals.

00:03:18.000 It's not boring on a day-to-day basis, but there's not like that funny stories anymore.

00:03:22.000 It's not like, oh, my sheep did something so funny today.

00:03:24.000 No, they didn't.

00:03:25.000 They're just sheep.

00:03:26.000 People were chatting that you were like the OG guy of the blogosphere, writing this stuff online and stuff back in the day.

00:03:33.000 Right on.

00:03:34.000 Thanks for coming.

00:03:35.000 We got a lot to talk about, so I'm glad you're here.

00:03:36.000 We got Hannah-Claire Brimelow, of course.

00:03:38.000 Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.

00:03:39.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

00:03:42.000 Right on.

00:03:42.000 Ian Crossland over here.

00:03:43.000 Hello, everyone.

00:03:44.000 Good to see you.

00:03:45.000 Good to meet.

00:03:46.000 Let's keep it rolling.

00:03:47.000 We got Chris Poole on the mic.

00:03:50.000 Hey, what's up everyone?

00:03:50.000 I'm Chris.

00:03:52.000 Alright, we're gonna jump into that first story.

00:03:53.000 These intros used to go so much quicker these days.

00:03:56.000 Alright, first story off the New York Post.

00:03:58.000 Alex Jones ordered to pay $45.2 million in punitive damages to Sandy Hook parents.

00:04:06.000 Let's get some important context here real quick though.

00:04:09.000 This is from AboveTheLaw.com.

00:04:11.000 Texas damages cap looms over Alex Jones' Sandy Hook defamation case.

00:04:16.000 They basically lay it out.

00:04:17.000 The family wants $150 million.

00:04:19.000 They've awarded $45.

00:04:20.000 But this is where it's interesting.

00:04:22.000 They say here, others have pointed out that Texas law caps punitive damages at twice the compensatory damage award plus $750,000.

00:04:30.000 Moreover, an exemplary damage award requires a unanimous jury, and only 10 of the 12 jurors agreed on the original $4.1 million compensatory award.

00:04:42.000 And if the jury's original award was for non-economic damages, i.e.

00:04:45.000 to compensate for the pain and suffering, they may only get the $750,000 in this phase of the trial, which is perhaps why Plaintiff's Counsel tried to anchor the jury at $150 million in the first place.

00:04:56.000 So it looks like All in all, Alex Jones will end up being on the hook for about $13 million.

00:05:01.000 They say, Texas law prohibits telling the jury about the cap, so it may well return a massive verdict, which will then be reduced to comply with the statute, sending a signal about Jones' moral culpability, but allowing him to walk away with a slap on the wrist in light of the company's annual revenues in the neighborhood of $65 million.

00:05:20.000 The interesting thing here is, this is what, let me read here, let me read you what the lawyer said.

00:05:25.000 Quote, I ask that with your verdict, you not only take Alex Jones's platform that he talks about away, I ask that you make sure that he can't rebuild the platform.

00:05:35.000 That's what matters.

00:05:36.000 Lawyer Wesley Ball said.

00:05:38.000 That is punishment.

00:05:39.000 That is deterrence.

00:05:40.000 No, that's execution.

00:05:42.000 Punishment is like, we're going to make you pay a lot of money and you're going to learn how to do this again.

00:05:46.000 What he's talking about is completely destroying Alex Jones and everybody who works for him.

00:05:52.000 So, that's it.

00:05:54.000 There it is.

00:05:54.000 This is what everybody assumed this was all about.

00:05:57.000 Alex Jones was a default judgment.

00:05:59.000 He wasn't allowed to defend himself.

00:06:01.000 They claim, and may be correct, that he did not comply with Discovery.

00:06:06.000 Alex Jones claims he did.

00:06:08.000 It's a crazy story, man.

00:06:09.000 What freaks me out is that they just nuked his company.

00:06:12.000 I mean, I think, in my opinion, Jones probably has a ton of cash because he's been doing this for a long time.

00:06:18.000 And I'd be willing to bet he hid a lot of it.

00:06:20.000 Why wouldn't he have?

00:06:22.000 But it looks like they're just trying to destroy as much of this company as possible, especially with 2024 coming up and Trump probably running again.

00:06:28.000 Yeah, I feel like when you're as financially successful as Alex Jones is, you know well in advance to set up systems that will protect your money.

00:06:36.000 I mean, it's not like he's just sticking... I mean, maybe he is, but he's probably not sticking the cash in the walls of his house.

00:06:42.000 It's hidden under tax shelters or in trusts.

00:06:44.000 I mean, not that I could fault him or anyone else for doing that.

00:06:47.000 Why would you leave that much cash vulnerable?

00:06:50.000 This is why people set up LLCs for, like, everything.

00:06:52.000 You ever notice this?

00:06:53.000 For people who are renting, you may notice you're paying rent to, like, your address.

00:06:57.000 Like, if you live at 123 Fake Street, you write a rent check to 123 Fake Street, LLC, and then you mail it in because they want to limit the liability.

00:07:06.000 You slip and fall in that house, you sue them, they only got that one house in that company.

00:07:09.000 But the people who own that house, they probably own 50 houses all under their own LLCs.

00:07:14.000 Or basic things.

00:07:15.000 You put your money in a trust or a series of protected trusts or blind trusts and then they're not... Even if you get this damage, you can't seize those trusts.

00:07:24.000 How would that work?

00:07:25.000 Can you explain how a trust would work?

00:07:27.000 Look, just because I went to law school doesn't mean I know anything.

00:07:30.000 He's trying to distance himself from his past.

00:07:33.000 All right, so basically what a trust is is it's like it's almost imagine like a corporation But it doesn't have a job to do other than be a vehicle for money.

00:07:43.000 So like I have a trust in my we have a max family trust and like most of my assets are in the max family trust and My wife and I are the executors of the trust and our children are their beneficiaries, right? 0.94

00:07:56.000 so if I were to like Get drunk and drive like an idiot and do something stupid and hurt somebody and they sue me and win. 0.97

00:08:04.000 They can't seize the trust, right? 1.00

00:08:06.000 They can only seize my personal assets.

00:08:08.000 You know, I have a few cars, whatever, we have some nonsense, but there's not a whole lot you can take.

00:08:14.000 And it's a way of protecting assets from, basically from seizure.

00:08:19.000 Is there a risk?

00:08:23.000 I mean, yeah, there's a few, but not really.

00:08:28.000 What's a risk?

00:08:28.000 A risk is my wife and I could get divorced and the way we have our trust set up is not super well situated for that possibility.

00:08:39.000 I mean, if I live a long time, there's certain things I can't do with the assets in that trust because they're in a trust.

00:08:47.000 I can't unilaterally decide I'm going to sell my property because my wife is an executor as well.

00:08:52.000 So we both have to decide.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, well then it depends on the trust, right?

00:08:59.000 You can't just say, okay, my stuff's in a trust and so no one can sue me.

00:09:03.000 There's certain legal structures you have to go through.

00:09:06.000 There's so many different trusts.

00:09:07.000 Blind trusts, irrevocable trusts, spendthrift trusts.

00:09:10.000 It just depends on what you're doing.

00:09:12.000 And certain ones are protected from certain legal liabilities.

00:09:15.000 Some are not.

00:09:16.000 Some are protected from almost all.

00:09:18.000 It really just depends.

00:09:19.000 That seems crazy, though.

00:09:20.000 I mean, if that's the case, then why wouldn't Alex Jones just be like, here's $300 million and put it in trust?

00:09:25.000 So, I don't... Alex seems kind of crazy to me, so maybe he has or hasn't, but most people I know who have serious money, like you get into the eight figures and above, Then you start protecting your assets and things like that.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 Yeah, isn't there some wasn't there?

00:09:40.000 I don't he's been in a couple lawsuits related to Sandy Hook and if I'm remembering correctly at one point they were arguing that he financially benefited off of the suffering that he put like the family and parents through by Promoting conspiracy theory or whatever the claim was so part of it is like I remember and I hate to quote this because I don't have something in front of me to reference but he he had they had wanted him to say basically how much money he had made during that time period because it gained him he was well known but it was one of the things that really uh gave him a certain amount of notoriety and that turned into financial benefit and so therefore the argument would be and i believe is that the family is actually entitled to this profit because he made it unfairly off of that right right right so he in some ways he wants to hide i'm not saying he does but like he would want to hide his money if that were true

00:10:32.000 I'm not, and I don't want to imply you're a financial expert, but if you had a trust like this, could there be like a bank account with just cash in it?

00:10:38.000 You could pull money out whenever you wanted?

00:10:41.000 You can set up trust like that, totally.

00:10:43.000 Yeah, it's not that hard.

00:10:44.000 Because I, you know, first when I heard that they were getting going after him for four million dollars, I was like, Alex Jones is worth a lot.

00:10:51.000 He can easily cover four million.

00:10:52.000 Well, I know he has at least two kids, right?

00:10:55.000 Yeah.

00:10:56.000 I know he has kids, so if he has any sense at all, or anyone around him has sense, he has trusts set up, probably individually for the kids, and then family trusts.

00:11:05.000 And that's just one way to shelter money.

00:11:07.000 There's a lot of other ways.

00:11:08.000 Like Panama. 0.89

00:11:10.000 Well, yeah, Panama Papers is a great...

00:11:13.000 Right.

00:11:13.000 I don't think he's operating at that level.

00:11:15.000 Those tended to be serious, serious wealth.

00:11:19.000 But there's plenty of places you can buy property.

00:11:21.000 Dude, just the state of Texas, it's really hard to seize assets in a bankruptcy or from a legal judgment.

00:11:31.000 There's a lot of weird rules in Texas.

00:11:33.000 It's really hard.

00:11:34.000 This is why I see this and they're like, you know, the lawyer says, make sure he can't rebuild his company.

00:11:39.000 I'm like, there's literally nothing you can do.

00:11:40.000 That's just posturing, I'm pretty sure.

00:11:42.000 I think, you know, some people have claimed, I saw people tweeting that they're filming a documentary about it or whatever, so everything's really hammed up.

00:11:49.000 But I'm like, even if Alex Jones, every last penny was taken from him, some random guy will walk up on the street with a cell phone and film Alex Jones ranting and it'll get millions of views.

00:12:00.000 You can't take that away from somebody.

00:12:03.000 Social capital.

00:12:04.000 Invaluable.

00:12:05.000 And just the ability that he has, whatever it may be.

00:12:09.000 The dude yells and people watch.

00:12:10.000 He's already an established name.

00:12:12.000 I mean, people know him.

00:12:14.000 Maybe if you had cut him off years and years and years ago, he wouldn't have the kind of influence that he has today.

00:12:19.000 But that's just really not the case.

00:12:21.000 He's an established brand with or without the company.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, and I also don't know if you could ever have cut him off.

00:12:27.000 It's just like the kind of guy he is.

00:12:28.000 He's a bull charging through.

00:12:32.000 My understanding from people who know him, he was like that in high school.

00:12:36.000 No, really, he used to walk around the halls yelling about injustice or whatever was the thing at the time.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, he's just one of those dudes.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, they clearly don't like him.

00:12:47.000 So I guess the conspiracy theory, as it were, I don't even know if you can call it a theory or a conspiracy or whatever, but the idea is that all of this is just to find the vulnerability in InfoWars to knock the whole thing down.

00:13:01.000 People have left the company because of stuff like this.

00:13:04.000 But I think, to be fair, I mean, the dude defamed private individuals, and this is what happens.

00:13:09.000 I mean, I remember when he was talking about that.

00:13:12.000 I'm like, dude, what are you, like, there's things that you can make the false flag claim on.

00:13:16.000 I don't think this is it, dude.

00:13:18.000 This is not a hill to plant your flag.

00:13:21.000 I guess, you know what?

00:13:23.000 I guess the argument they're making is that it was working for them.

00:13:26.000 It was getting the clicks and people were eating it up.

00:13:28.000 And there were people at the company telling them to stop because it wasn't worth it.

00:13:32.000 Now apparently there's like two more defamation suits that are coming up.

00:13:35.000 Yeah, from the Sandy Hook family.

00:13:37.000 I don't think it's gonna stop.

00:13:39.000 I mean, look, I understand why the families would be pissed, you know?

00:13:43.000 Was that some fall over?

00:13:45.000 I totally just kicked the trash can.

00:13:46.000 He's throwing stuff at me?

00:13:47.000 It's very aggressive.

00:13:49.000 Beyond pissed.

00:13:50.000 Like I don't, you know, with Kyle Rittenhouse, I said this, I'm like, look man, you know, I'm going to give anybody the same benefit of the doubt initially.

00:14:01.000 I don't care if you're Walter Cronkite or if you're Alex Jones or whatever.

00:14:04.000 And then, you know, I'll, when you say something, I'll fact check it.

00:14:07.000 And that's all that matters.

00:14:08.000 I'm not here to play these, these like, who do I like?

00:14:10.000 Who do I don't like games?

00:14:11.000 But, uh, Yeah, I don't know, man.

00:14:13.000 It's very clear that when you look at, I'll be careful how I say this, what people are saying about the court case, they don't care whether Alex Jones is telling the truth, whether he's lying.

00:14:25.000 They just hate him.

00:14:26.000 They want him gone.

00:14:27.000 I think he's like a mythical figure at this point to a lot of people like he is this symbol of all the horrible dark corners of the internet that they're afraid of and supposed to stay away from and you know that may not be exactly who Alex is but they see it as sort of this righteous victory over him because he is a representation of a larger problem with society.

00:14:47.000 We got a cult.

00:14:47.000 Let me pull this next story in this saga.

00:14:50.000 Daily Mail says Alex Jones is worth $270 million.

00:14:53.000 Forensic accountant tells court true worth of InfoWars founder.

00:14:57.000 I'm wondering how much of this is just bluster nonsense, and they're saying this so they can rip the, you know, just gut the company.

00:15:05.000 Because if you come out and you say he makes $800,000 a day, which was like one day, it was like two days or something like that, and then you claim he's worth $270 million, you justify a massive Settlement, right, of course.

00:15:17.000 Or judgment, yeah.

00:15:18.000 And then what if it turns out he actually just doesn't have anything?

00:15:21.000 I mean, because I wouldn't be surprised.

00:15:22.000 I guess he's divorced, you know?

00:15:24.000 He has an ex-wife or something like that.

00:15:26.000 Well, and like, why would he keep $270 million sitting in his bank account?

00:15:30.000 Well, I mean, when a forensic accountant says something is worth something, what they mean is the sale price.

00:15:37.000 Like, the best market price.

00:15:39.000 Like, I mean, I just built a company that's worth, you know, I don't know in detail.

00:15:43.000 Actually, I know exactly what it's worth.

00:15:44.000 It's worth a lot.

00:15:46.000 Not $270 million.

00:15:47.000 But like, let's say the company is worth, I don't know, $60 million, right?

00:15:51.000 That means that's the sale price.

00:15:54.000 We're not making $60,000,000 a year even top line, right?

00:15:57.000 Like it's $60,000,000 is the cost of the asset, not what the value it produces.

00:16:02.000 I'd love to see the financials.

00:16:04.000 I'd be shocked if he... Someone said he's doing $60,000,000 a year now.

00:16:07.000 He's doing $180,000 pre-ban from YouTube and everything, right?

00:16:11.000 Pre-deplatforming.

00:16:13.000 So $60,000 would make sense.

00:16:15.000 That's 60% down.

00:16:17.000 The guy apparently says that Jones, he says records show that Jones withdrew $62 million for himself in 2021 when default judgments were issued in lawsuits against him.

00:16:27.000 They said he was also funneling $11,000 a day into one of his shell companies after he was alleged to have defamed parents and victims of Sandy Hook.

00:16:37.000 I don't know, man.

00:16:38.000 They say, apparently, this guy is saying that he rakes in about $70 million a year from InfoWars.

00:16:43.000 The question is, is that revenue or profit?

00:16:45.000 It's gotta be top line.

00:16:46.000 There's no way that's profit.

00:16:49.000 They're going for the bigger number.

00:16:50.000 Right, of course.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, so if 70 is the top line, and it depends how he structures his company, right?

00:16:54.000 And most of that money is on supplements, right?

00:16:57.000 That's the presumption is that the vast majority of that is supplement sales.

00:17:01.000 Well, so the question is how... Now, if he has some deal with an external company, he may only be taking 20-30% of that, you know?

00:17:09.000 And so if it's... I'm going to totally make up numbers.

00:17:12.000 If it's $50 million from supplement sales, his cut may only be 20%.

00:17:17.000 They brought this up in the trial.

00:17:20.000 They said that... Jones testified his profit margin was 20-40%.

00:17:23.000 Makes sense.

00:17:24.000 And then they said in a text message, someone said a 70% profit.

00:17:28.000 He's like, well, that's not correct.

00:17:29.000 Well, on the media company, though, maybe.

00:17:31.000 You run a media company.

00:17:32.000 You could run a media company.

00:17:34.000 Once you get some scale, you can run that pretty profitably.

00:17:38.000 YouTube's a crazy business, man.

00:17:39.000 If you spend money one time on a camera and then start working, it can be 95-100% profit.

00:17:47.000 Exactly.

00:17:47.000 100% profit.

00:17:48.000 Exactly, right.

00:17:49.000 So it depends.

00:17:50.000 He could be 70% on his subscription model, right?

00:17:55.000 But then the supplements, it all depends.

00:17:57.000 I doubt he's running a supplement company.

00:17:59.000 He's probably got, like, partners.

00:18:00.000 In fact, I could probably figure out who his partners are.

00:18:02.000 I'm pretty sure he has, like, three companies.

00:18:04.000 I could be wrong.

00:18:06.000 And, like, one of them does supplements, and then he contracts them.

00:18:09.000 Yeah, to other people who do the fulfillment and everything, I'm sure.

00:18:12.000 Oh yeah, like he doesn't, yeah, he said that the stuff he gets is the same stuff as like GNC and Whole Foods or something.

00:18:17.000 Right, exactly.

00:18:18.000 So he's probably making, it's almost like an affiliate deal.

00:18:21.000 Right.

00:18:21.000 So he's probably making 20% on that.

00:18:23.000 So like, you look at a blended average, I could totally see it, 25-30% on the whole company.

00:18:30.000 70 on media.

00:18:31.000 When the news came out, I got a whole bunch of messages and people tweeting at me being like, Alex Jones, $200,000 to $800,000 per day.

00:18:40.000 People just sent me a message being like $160,000,000.

00:18:42.000 Just like, that dude is making an insane amount of money.

00:18:47.000 But here's what I think.

00:18:50.000 If it's true, my question is, why wouldn't he be spending it on crazier things?

00:18:55.000 He has a nice house in Austin.

00:18:56.000 I know that it's expensive.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, but I mean, if you're making that much money, if he really took $62 million for himself, I mean, there's a certain point, there's like, you can buy anything, you know?

00:19:08.000 I mean, he could buy stuff, or he can, we've already said he has two children, he can use it to create generational wealth.

00:19:14.000 I mean, theoretically, if he managed it correctly, they could really support generations to come.

00:19:19.000 I'm just saying, if it's true that he made that much money, where's the shenanigans from Alex Jones, you know?

00:19:24.000 Like, we put a 96-foot billboard of our rooster, Roberto Jr., up in Times Square, and they banned James Lindsay, so I'm like, do I gotta put up a James Lindsay billboard?

00:19:34.000 That's my thing now.

00:19:35.000 I think so.

00:19:36.000 So, we're gonna look into it.

00:19:37.000 Because I'll totally do it.

00:19:39.000 And we don't make nearly that much money.

00:19:41.000 Like, we have enough to do these funny things with.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, but that's not who Alex is.

00:19:46.000 And it's not who anybody is.

00:19:47.000 That's the problem.

00:19:48.000 Nah.

00:19:48.000 Just you two.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, just me, I guess.

00:19:52.000 Where's Elon to just like, I'm gonna buy every billboard in Times Square and put a picture of me.

00:19:56.000 Do you want the real answer on why?

00:19:57.000 I'll tell you, this is gonna sound super weird, because when I first started writing and I was the OG on the internet and I was making a little bit of money, I was just making no money, and a lot to me was like, oh, dude, I made 10 grand this month.

00:20:10.000 I'm like, this is amazing.

00:20:11.000 This is more than I could ever spend.

00:20:13.000 That's why I was single. 1.00

00:20:15.000 And so I did dumb ass shit with my money, too. 1.00

00:20:19.000 Here's what happens, though, man. 1.00

00:20:20.000 I'm 46 now.

00:20:20.000 I was 26 when I started writing.

00:20:25.000 As you accrue wealth and power and relationships, the more time you spend doing dumbass shit that draws attention to yourself, unless that's your business model. 0.97

00:20:41.000 the weaker it gets. 0.99

00:20:43.000 Real power wants to be invisible, right?

00:20:46.000 And real wealth wants to be unseen.

00:20:48.000 You know, like, I have a decent ranch in Dripping Springs, like 50 acres, you know, it's fine, right?

00:20:55.000 One of my good friends has a 350 acre ranch on Barton Creek.

00:20:59.000 It, dude, this ranch was so expensive.

00:21:03.000 It's so nice.

00:21:04.000 And if you saw the gate to it, you would think it was some ranch shackle meth lab around here.

00:21:11.000 He doesn't want anyone to know that he has this insane ranch.

00:21:20.000 I found it's happened to me too.

00:21:21.000 I've gotten more experienced or more conservative and less like, oh, let's do cool, ridiculous stuff just because I've gotten older and richer.

00:21:30.000 But it's I get that for sure.

00:21:33.000 But the question is, like, Alex Jones is the culture warrior.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, but what he cares about... You know Alex pretty well.

00:21:42.000 He's one of those dudes I think he actually believes he's doing the right thing, and he actually cares about truth.

00:21:50.000 That dude's been ringing the Epstein bell for 15 years!

00:21:52.000 I agree, which is why I'm like, if he actually had this money, wouldn't he be doing substantially more to push this stuff?

00:22:00.000 See, this is what I don't get.

00:22:01.000 And look, it really does come down to my personal worldview versus what other people think or see, right?

00:22:07.000 It's just that simple.

00:22:08.000 Some people make $62 million and then they're like, better put that in my trust for my kids or something like that.

00:22:13.000 Me, I'm like, we got Michael Malice, Luke Rutkowski up on billboards in Times Square because they've been on this show, I respect them, but I also think it's important to have their presence be expanded.

00:22:24.000 And I gotta tell you, One of the things I'm most excited for was that we got Luke Rydkowski.

00:22:29.000 Do you know Luke of We Are Change?

00:22:31.000 I'm most excited about getting him up in Times Square on multiple billboards because he's the guy who, only a couple years ago, walks up to Donald Rumsfeld and starts questioning him.

00:22:39.000 One of the few people who's gotten in the face of these CEOs and these big corporations.

00:22:43.000 And I was like, it's going to be the funniest thing in the world when his face is looking down on Times Square.

00:22:48.000 And then this guy who actually had the balls to go and question all these people is going to be of significant influence.

00:22:54.000 That's what I want to see.

00:22:56.000 It benefits us because it's a Tim Cast ad.

00:22:59.000 Right, of course.

00:22:59.000 But I'm looking at this like, if we make enough money, how can we have a bigger impact on just making things better?

00:23:06.000 Dude, that's awesome.

00:23:07.000 And I'm with you.

00:23:09.000 And I'm not arguing this is right.

00:23:11.000 No, I hear you.

00:23:13.000 I know a lot of people who are pretty well known.

00:23:16.000 I've come up with them and I've seen the change in them.

00:23:19.000 When people have something to lose, Right? 0.94

00:23:22.000 Like when someone's young and just starting off or just got momentum and you don't have anything to lose, man, it's easy to do risky shit. 0.91

00:23:30.000 As you have more, have more people dependent on you, as you accrue more, most people become more risk averse.

00:23:40.000 And quite frankly, like when you start having a lot of money and you're able to turn, let's call it a youthful idealism into reality, you start being an actual threat to people in power.

00:23:51.000 Oh yeah.

00:23:52.000 And then when that lens turns on you, and I've had it turned on me, not quite the way Alex did, but it's a lot, dude.

00:24:00.000 It's a lot.

00:24:01.000 And so like, again, not saying he should or shouldn't be a certain way, I'm just saying there's a reason that very few people retain their idealism through wealth and power.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, you know, I'm not trying to single out Alex on this one.

00:24:16.000 There's a ton of wealthy people who speak up and then seemingly don't do all that much.

00:24:20.000 But, you know, there are a lot of people you'd think should do more, but do a lot.

00:24:24.000 I'm not going to name anybody, but they're powerful individuals who fund stuff.

00:24:28.000 And then I just, you know, but my question is, We've got cultural problems in this country.

00:24:33.000 We've got cultural stagnation, cultural decay.

00:24:35.000 We've got a culture war.

00:24:36.000 And that's because there is no forward facing, no brazen, no adventurous, no heroic, no challenge, no figurative threat to the, you know, no one ruffling the feathers up or anything like that.

00:24:48.000 I think we need to get more people to figuratively throw a pie. 0.56

00:24:52.000 That's what I keep saying to people.

00:24:53.000 I'm like, dude, what did you do?

00:24:55.000 You made, how much money did you make this year?

00:24:56.000 And then you put it, you bought what?

00:24:58.000 Like you did nothing with it.

00:25:00.000 So, I don't know, man.

00:25:01.000 That's just me, I guess.

00:25:04.000 I'm with you.

00:25:05.000 I would be happy living in a van down by the river.

00:25:08.000 And everybody knows that's true.

00:25:09.000 And that's why I'm like, okay, let's put up these billboards and just keep doing this crazy stuff.

00:25:14.000 Because I want to see things get better.

00:25:16.000 I want to see a positive impact.

00:25:17.000 I want to see positive cultural change.

00:25:19.000 I don't see a benefit or a point to just having $60 million in a trust sitting somewhere.

00:25:25.000 I totally agree with you.

00:25:27.000 I'm on board.

00:25:28.000 Let me tell you two things.

00:25:29.000 One, I don't mean this in a negative way.

00:25:31.000 I've seen it happen to me.

00:25:33.000 Just wait until you have a wife and kids and you have like real money and that'll happen soon enough.

00:25:38.000 It might take 10 years or whatever but like it'll happen.

00:25:42.000 What is real money?

00:25:43.000 I mean like whatever you consider real money to be, you're like you have that plus a zero.

00:25:51.000 So you mean like there comes a point where you're like, I thought I was rich, but now, wow.

00:25:57.000 Yeah.

00:25:57.000 But, um, no, I'm just, I, your views are going, I don't mean this like, Oh, you're going to learn about the real world.

00:26:05.000 And then I'll do, you might still be super idealistic and doing all kinds of cool stuff.

00:26:09.000 I hope you are.

00:26:10.000 That's awesome.

00:26:11.000 Just understand like, it's, it's very easy from a certain position to say, well, that person in that position should be doing that.

00:26:19.000 They have all kinds of forces working on them that are almost impossible to imagine until you get there.

00:26:24.000 I'm telling you as someone who started with nothing and went through all these phases.

00:26:29.000 I just kind of feel like it's, at every step of the way, you know, I'll tell you this story.

00:26:34.000 I remember watching a video about climate change activists or something.

00:26:38.000 They went to like an oil executive's house.

00:26:42.000 Right.

00:26:42.000 and then they were protesting and then he comes out and he sits down with him and he

00:26:46.000 was like say it all and then they started yelling at him and he just sat and listened

00:26:50.000 and then they were like what do you have to say for yourself and he's like I completely

00:26:53.000 agree with everything you said like we're trying to figure this out and then he rebutted

00:26:57.000 with hundreds of hundred plus million people 200 million people driving cars every day

00:27:02.000 and they're telling us we have to do this and so we're trying to figure out how do we

00:27:05.000 be better stewards of the earth.

00:27:07.000 When you have 200 million people who are making demands and if you stop producing the oil Then the government comes in says why did you stop people are screaming at us and demanding you do it?

00:27:15.000 So you can't just the point was this dude at the highest level was like supposedly the villain and he's like, but I agree with you the problem is the machine is controlling you and So my thing is like, then you gotta just one day wake up and be like, I don't care for the machine.

00:27:30.000 So, you know, look, my- I'm saying...

00:27:33.000 That's easy to say.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, but 60 million dollars?

00:27:36.000 Come on, somebody can do it.

00:27:37.000 Hold on.

00:27:38.000 How did you get me defending the machine?

00:27:40.000 I hate them.

00:27:41.000 I am the anti-machine. 0.95

00:27:44.000 Here's the thing.

00:27:46.000 I fundamentally agree with your premises.

00:27:49.000 The one thing I would... I want to go back to what you said before, for a second, when you were like, people need to do this and do that.

00:27:57.000 You know why I think so many people are so black-pilled right now? 1.00

00:28:02.000 Because I think the old American story broke.

00:28:03.000 Whenever it broke and however it broke, it's broken.

00:28:05.000 It's shattered.

00:28:05.000 So many other people like, because I think the old American story broke, right?

00:28:12.000 Whenever it broke and however it broke, it's broken.

00:28:14.000 It's shattered.

00:28:15.000 No one believes it anymore.

00:28:17.000 And no one has replaced that story, right?

00:28:20.000 And so that most people are followers, you know, not good or bad, they just are.

00:28:24.000 And right now, the dominant narrative in America is a very toxic, destructive death cult, like CRT or wokeism or that whole conglomeration of narratives.

00:28:37.000 are horribly anti-human and depressing and toxic, and there has been no narrative to replace it.

00:28:43.000 And we're not going back to old school American exceptionalism.

00:28:46.000 That's not going to work.

00:28:47.000 That story, right or wrong, it's broken.

00:28:51.000 And no one believes it anymore.

00:28:52.000 So what's the next story?

00:28:54.000 What's going to replace that?

00:28:55.000 I don't have the answer.

00:28:56.000 Yeah. Transhumanism.

00:28:57.000 I mean, the metaverse.

00:28:59.000 People becoming cyborgs.

00:29:01.000 We've already got our phones.

00:29:02.000 Look what we're doing now with zero money.

00:29:04.000 We're displaying to a hundred million people.

00:29:07.000 I think your point is, simply put, I think most people are looking at the culture right now and thinking, I have nothing in common with these people, so I won't do anything for them.

00:29:19.000 What's the point?

00:29:20.000 And so, you know, I describe it as, like, our government, for instance.

00:29:24.000 The Titanic hit the iceberg.

00:29:26.000 They saw it happen.

00:29:28.000 Everyone else is clueless.

00:29:29.000 They're abandoning ship.

00:29:30.000 But they're stealing the silverware as they do it.

00:29:32.000 They're stealing everything they can as they do it, yes.

00:29:34.000 They got their vests loaded up with silverware and they're in the lifeboat lowering it down.

00:29:39.000 Just a routine test, just gonna go talk, we'll be right back.

00:29:42.000 And you're like, where are you going with all that really expensive stuff in that boat?

00:29:44.000 That's what I see happening in this country.

00:29:46.000 But I think that's a good explanation for why we don't see more people.

00:29:50.000 I think a simple explanation for Alex Jones is probably that that's top line.

00:29:55.000 They're claiming he has more money than he really does.

00:29:57.000 Because Alex, I've seen his tank.

00:29:59.000 I've seen the stuff he does when he drives that armored vehicle around.

00:30:02.000 He does spend a lot of money on this stuff.

00:30:04.000 But I'm just wondering, For how many culture warriors there are?

00:30:10.000 I shouldn't say I'm wondering, I get exactly what you're saying.

00:30:12.000 I think most people have a large self-interest and then a smaller, altruistic interest.

00:30:20.000 But with no... A lot of people will put resources behind a great movement.

00:30:26.000 There's no great movement right now. 1.00

00:30:27.000 I know a ton of people with stupid, stupid money. 1.00

00:30:31.000 Private plane, private island money. 1.00

00:30:34.000 Not like me, like way more than me.

00:30:36.000 And they're all sitting on it.

00:30:37.000 That's boring.

00:30:40.000 You know why?

00:30:40.000 They don't know what to do with it.

00:30:42.000 And I don't just mean they don't know how to invest it.

00:30:44.000 Or they don't know how to make money.

00:30:45.000 Because there's plenty that just care about making money right. 0.73

00:30:48.000 But the ones who want to do the right thing.

00:30:50.000 Who would love to back the next thing or help.

00:30:57.000 They don't know what to do.

00:30:58.000 I know you are correct because I have seen very wealthy people talk about these issues and they are clueless as to what's causing it.

00:31:06.000 Utterly.

00:31:07.000 And I used to be a fundraiser.

00:31:08.000 Like, I remember when you would get people who would come in and say, like, I just, I want to do something.

00:31:13.000 I'm not sure.

00:31:14.000 And they are very susceptible to whoever messages them.

00:31:17.000 I mean, that's what a major gift officer for a nonprofit or a school does.

00:31:21.000 They court people who need direction how to donate their money.

00:31:25.000 A really good example, I think, is look at all of the Twitter alternatives that exist.

00:31:29.000 Like, okay, you've got Gab, you've got Getter, you've got Truth Social, you've got Parler.

00:31:34.000 This is a really good example of, I think, what the issue is, is that people are like, hey, Twitter's banning conservatives and people who are challenging the establishment, so let's make a new Twitter.

00:31:43.000 And the actual reality is the technology and the platform is not the problem.

00:31:47.000 The problem is culture, the cultural dominance, and the issue that the people who run these companies, like Twitter, They are ideologically driven.

00:31:56.000 A hundred percent.

00:31:57.000 So when you have a group of people who are well off, not particularly ideologically driven, except they support free speech, they don't know how to solve the problem.

00:32:05.000 They say, let's make a new Twitter.

00:32:07.000 Congratulations.

00:32:08.000 Nobody uses it.

00:32:09.000 There's already a place people are fighting with each other and arguing.

00:32:12.000 What you need is like an Elon Musk to buy the Twitter.

00:32:15.000 That's a clever move.

00:32:16.000 But what I said to some of these people when I'm sitting in these meetings, I'm like, you guys, you really don't get it.

00:32:20.000 It's a cultural problem.

00:32:22.000 You need someone like Michael Malice.

00:32:24.000 You need a masterful troll to create a cultural shift through a large cultural shock, which is why, you know, I mention my view on things is maybe where I'm getting things wrong is people absolutely are spending money, but they just don't, they're not addressing the culture problems.

00:32:41.000 No, they're not.

00:32:42.000 Yes.

00:32:42.000 They're spending money on technology, they're spending money on new companies or new buildings

00:32:46.000 or things like that.

00:32:47.000 Or stuff.

00:32:48.000 Or stuff.

00:32:49.000 But thinking this is a positive move to change things, meanwhile the culture keeps churning

00:32:53.000 in the woke cult direction.

00:32:54.000 Yes.

00:32:55.000 Yeah.

00:32:56.000 About two years ago, two and a half years ago, I really kind of started to figure this

00:33:01.000 And I'll tell you what I'm doing now.

00:33:05.000 And I don't talk about it a whole lot publicly, just because I'm kind of at the beginning stages.

00:33:10.000 But I've, you know, I moved to a, like, bought a land, moved to a ranch, right?

00:33:15.000 But not just like, I'm gonna go be a prepper or a homesteader.

00:33:18.000 Like, we're definitely homesteading.

00:33:20.000 But I bought in a place that a bunch of other people I knew were there.

00:33:23.000 And then a bunch of other people came.

00:33:24.000 We started our own school.

00:33:26.000 And now like almost everything I do now is I do one of two things either I think very very locally Like where am I buying my stuff right?

00:33:36.000 Like where am I getting water power food, etc?

00:33:40.000 Like who am I?

00:33:42.000 Who am I buying from right?

00:33:45.000 Are they in my community?

00:33:47.000 How am I supporting my community?

00:33:49.000 Who am I bringing into my community?

00:33:51.000 How are we connecting?

00:33:53.000 How are we interfacing with each other?

00:33:56.000 Not to like have some, you know, some island or some cult somewhere.

00:34:00.000 I mean, we live in Texas.

00:34:02.000 We're a town in Texas.

00:34:03.000 There's a bunch, but like I want to think as much as possible locally.

00:34:07.000 I don't, I think that if there's gonna be a thread that is a true counterculture thread, it's gonna be around Think about how disconnected and detached everyone is from each other.

00:34:21.000 The opposite of that is not just interpersonal, it's as much as possible local.

00:34:25.000 I mean, obviously, I can't get my oysters locally.

00:34:27.000 I live in, you know, the desert.

00:34:29.000 but as much as I can, I wanna know my neighbors and interact with them and buy from them

00:34:37.000 and sell to them and create our own economy.

00:34:40.000 We have our own school.

00:34:42.000 We literally just started a school.

00:34:43.000 We got 80 families and 100 something kids in it.

00:34:46.000 I mean, public schools are a disaster.

00:34:51.000 Who wants to send their kids to, I don't even wanna get you blocked on YouTube,

00:34:55.000 but to public schools now.

00:34:59.000 And so I, the.

00:35:01.000 That idea has just started with a lot of people.

00:35:05.000 I think that's going to be one of the main ideas, but not the only one.

00:35:09.000 You know?

00:35:10.000 I don't know what it's... If I knew, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

00:35:13.000 I want to jump to this next story, because I think it hits at the heart of a lot of what we're talking about.

00:35:17.000 This story has been going viral.

00:35:19.000 I covered it a bit in 4PM.

00:35:20.000 Employee wards off three robbers with a knife.

00:35:23.000 Stabs one multiple times at Las Vegas Smoke Shop.

00:35:25.000 Of course, we've got to censor these images, because these are brutal images.

00:35:29.000 But I'll tell you the gist of the story.

00:35:31.000 Guys working at a smoke shop in Vegas, dudes come in, one guy immediately robs them, the next guy jumps the counter, and the clerk just says, okay, with a knife in his hand, and just starts going at the dude who jumped the counter.

00:35:44.000 Now a lot of people are saying that it's, was it a legal use of force, because he gets this guy in the neck a couple times, and the guy says, I'm dead, I'm dead.

00:35:52.000 The reason I think this is, you know, in the previous segment, we're talking about, you know, why are people keeping their money, hoarding it, not really investing in their communities and stuff like that.

00:36:01.000 And I think there's a really good example.

00:36:03.000 This guy was attacked.

00:36:05.000 And what people are worried about is that he will go to prison.

00:36:08.000 For defending himself.

00:36:09.000 Defending, I know.

00:36:10.000 And so it's things like this, when people say, I'm out.

00:36:14.000 If we're sitting here looking at the story, thinking that you could be minding your own business, someone can jump the counter wearing a ski mask, and you are legally required to back up and wait for them to draw on you before you have a chance to actually defend yourself, that's the reality of this country in many states.

00:36:29.000 At that point, a lot of people are just like, don't care anymore.

00:36:32.000 I'm gonna watch out for myself because you will get boot stomped by the machine if you try and defend yourself.

00:36:39.000 In New York, California, totally.

00:36:41.000 That's why Austin is so expensive now.

00:36:43.000 It's because of this.

00:36:44.000 Stuff like this.

00:36:45.000 It's a huge part of it, yeah.

00:36:46.000 I mean, if you're in Florida... Well, you saw the dude in New York, Jose Alba, right?

00:36:50.000 The guy who's got the shotgun?

00:36:52.000 Yeah, like the old dude who...

00:36:56.000 It was in New York, the bodega guy.

00:36:58.000 Remember the guy who cut the... he killed the... the guy was beating him up. 1.00

00:37:01.000 Like, beating his ass. 1.00

00:37:03.000 And he stabbed him, killed him. 1.00

00:37:05.000 I mean, couldn't have been a more clear-cut self-defense.

00:37:08.000 The girlfriend stabbed the store clerk.

00:37:12.000 Yeah, she tried to or something. 0.99

00:37:13.000 No, she did.

00:37:13.000 She got him in the arm.

00:37:14.000 Oh, she did.

00:37:14.000 I'm pretty sure she got him in the arm.

00:37:15.000 Okay, alright.

00:37:15.000 I could be wrong.

00:37:16.000 So it was the most clear-cut self-defense I've ever seen.

00:37:18.000 This Jose Alba?

00:37:19.000 Yeah, that guy.

00:37:19.000 He's leaving and going to the Dominican Republic.

00:37:21.000 I would too if I was here!

00:37:22.000 That was two hours ago from New York Post, yeah.

00:37:24.000 Yeah!

00:37:25.000 They dropped the murder charge and he's out.

00:37:27.000 The only reason the prosecutor dropped the charge is because everyone in the country was in a total uproar.

00:37:32.000 And the mayor, Eric Adams, was like, alright, just let the dude go.

00:37:35.000 Yeah.

00:37:36.000 Like, it's exactly what you're talking about.

00:37:38.000 Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:37:40.000 Exactly.

00:37:40.000 The fact that there were people in this country that had no idea what happened, and wanted him to go to prison.

00:37:46.000 The fact that he spent two months, or it wasn't two months, it was almost three months, in jail, and then they were like, oh yeah, I mean, it was self-defense.

00:37:55.000 It's remarkable that anybody who watched that, just unquestionably, it was self-defense.

00:37:59.000 Of course it was, just watch the video!

00:38:00.000 But most people didn't watch the video, because that one is the wrong narrative.

00:38:04.000 But they believe Jesse Smollett Well, the same people that believe Jussie Smollett are the ones who, when they watched the Rittenhouse trial, were like, wait a minute, he didn't shoot a bunch of black people?

00:38:16.000 No, like, do you remember how many people were like, wait a minute, he shot three white guys who had one of them had a gun?

00:38:23.000 And he's on the ground and the guy runs up with the gun?

00:38:27.000 And the guy... They were shocked!

00:38:29.000 The guy's accused of saying that he regrets not killing him?

00:38:33.000 They had no idea.

00:38:35.000 And then you saw some of these people came out and they're like, I was wrong about that.

00:38:39.000 A minority did admit it.

00:38:40.000 But most people didn't.

00:38:41.000 They kept going with, well, this is wrong.

00:38:44.000 This is like injustice.

00:38:46.000 Our system is so biased.

00:38:48.000 It's an example of systemic racism that, you know, they never tried to fact check themselves at all.

00:38:53.000 They never really looked at the case, again, because they're not really interested in it.

00:38:56.000 They're interested in their own narrative. 1.00

00:38:58.000 I'm sure all of these really wealthy media people are watching shows like this and they're hearing me talk about stuff and they're laughing like, what an idiot. 0.99

00:39:06.000 The fact that I would say I would rather invest in the company than hoard the money and hide it somewhere. 0.78

00:39:11.000 They're like, when it all comes crashing down, and it is because they all see it coming, Taiwan, China, Russia, whatever it is, I'm going to be left holding an empty bag and they've been stocking their money up in Panama and El Salvador and crypto and wherever else.

00:39:23.000 Their money might not be worth much.

00:39:25.000 Yeah, but if you spread it around.

00:39:26.000 If things go really sideways, you're in a way better spot than they are.

00:39:30.000 Well, think about it.

00:39:30.000 You're on land.

00:39:32.000 You have guns.

00:39:33.000 You have friends.

00:39:34.000 You have food.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, but they do too.

00:39:36.000 These people have been buying up in Idaho and Wyoming and building compounds and fortresses.

00:39:41.000 So, I'm going to tell you a quick story.

00:39:43.000 So, you're right.

00:39:44.000 That definitely exists.

00:39:46.000 But you know what's going to happen.

00:39:47.000 If things go really sideways, not like a little COVID-y, but like sideways sideways.

00:39:52.000 Civil war.

00:39:54.000 It can be short of Civil War, but sideways.

00:39:58.000 Bro, how many people do you think that work on those compounds in Idaho are going to give their lives for rich out-of-staters?

00:40:06.000 Yeah, it's not going to happen.

00:40:07.000 Let's go a step further.

00:40:10.000 Let's say you're a super billionaire who has a huge estate outside of Sun Valley.

00:40:15.000 That head of security, that guy who, you know, he was former SF, and he's got his family there, and he hired the whole crew, and there's like four dudes that all report to him.

00:40:25.000 He's the billionaire now.

00:40:26.000 He's the boss now.

00:40:28.000 That's right.

00:40:28.000 That's what happened with the Roman Empire, I mean, the head of the Praetorian Guard would just kill the emperor and become the new emperor.

00:40:34.000 That happened multiple times.

00:40:36.000 This is the thing people need to understand too, like, Your point is absolutely spot on.

00:40:41.000 You own land?

00:40:42.000 So like, I mean rhetorically, obviously, because you talked about it, but I'm saying like, you think you own land in a rhetorical sense.

00:40:50.000 What does that mean?

00:40:50.000 You're running it from the government.

00:40:52.000 You've got a piece of paper that says, on this date, so-and-so owns the land.

00:40:56.000 What do you think's going to happen when it hits the fan?

00:40:59.000 You're going to walk onto your land and there's going to be a dude with a gun and he's going to be like, it's my land.

00:41:02.000 And you're going to be like, but I have the paper.

00:41:03.000 And he's going to be like, and I have the gun.

00:41:05.000 It's going to be like the land grab when people are going west.

00:41:07.000 They're just going to sprint.

00:41:09.000 There's a reason why a lot of smart people are focusing a lot of time on community.

00:41:15.000 When I first got into this, a lot of people were like, oh, defense, defense, have guns.

00:41:20.000 And I'm like, okay, guns are cool.

00:41:22.000 I'm into defense, but I'm one dude.

00:41:24.000 If a gang of dudes come, I need neighbors.

00:41:27.000 I need friends.

00:41:28.000 I need other people with guns.

00:41:30.000 This is like an old-timey Western thing, but if you're not home and your family's home, you need the rest of your community to be like, we're gonna head over there.

00:41:36.000 They seem to be in trouble.

00:41:38.000 Yes.

00:41:39.000 One dude with a gun is useless against a gang.

00:41:41.000 But a neighborhood?

00:41:42.000 Gonna win.

00:41:42.000 Gonna make it.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, this is what people need to understand, too.

00:41:45.000 The left likes to talk about how 2A, they're like, you know, what did Joe Biden say?

00:41:49.000 You're gonna need nukes to go up against the government.

00:41:52.000 Like the Afghanis? 1.00

00:41:53.000 You mean?

00:41:53.000 Yeah, like the Viet Cong.

00:41:55.000 They had a hard time.

00:41:57.000 But the thing is, it's really simply put, A drone can't occupy a street corner.

00:42:01.000 Nope.

00:42:02.000 So if you really want to seize assets, resources, and control a city, a civilization, you need boots on the ground instructing the people what to do. 0.98

00:42:12.000 Well, my favorite about that is there was someone, I can't remember, it was one of like Max Boot or one of those lunatics who was like, blah, blah, blah, what are your stupid AR-15s gonna do against drones and, you know, like predator drones and all that stuff. 0.94

00:42:25.000 And, uh, I think it was Clay Martin, who's a total badass. 0.71

00:42:28.000 He just responded to Max and he said, Hey, the people operating those drones, they got addresses and families?

00:42:36.000 Okay.

00:42:37.000 You know, like it's same thing, man.

00:42:38.000 Like people don't realize like... Do you remember the Space Force thing?

00:42:42.000 I got to bring it up again.

00:42:43.000 Which what?

00:42:44.000 The uniforms.

00:42:45.000 The Space Force uniforms were like jungle camo or whatever.

00:42:47.000 Desert camo.

00:42:49.000 So when they announced Space Force, they showed a photo of someone wearing a uniform and it was like, what is it called, Chris?

00:42:54.000 The green camo they wear?

00:42:55.000 They have different names for it, but it's like ACUs were the ones I wore.

00:42:59.000 But is that a reference to the color?

00:43:01.000 It's just the design.

00:43:02.000 Yeah.

00:43:03.000 So everybody was laughing.

00:43:04.000 They're like, it's the Space Force, but they're like for the dream camo.

00:43:07.000 Yeah.

00:43:07.000 So then they started, people started making photos of uniforms that looked like outer space.

00:43:12.000 And there was like, immediately someone said, where do you think the Space Force is fighting?

00:43:16.000 And they were like, They're on the ground running satellites.

00:43:20.000 Secondly, if they were in space, they would be in spaceships, not floating around.

00:43:25.000 And even if they were, why would you want them to be invisible?

00:43:30.000 You're floating in space.

00:43:31.000 You want someone to notice.

00:43:33.000 So you can set up an ambush in space, obviously.

00:43:35.000 Right. 0.99

00:43:36.000 But my point is, all of these people who are making fun of the idea, They're extremely ignorant. 0.99

00:43:42.000 They have no idea how reality works. 0.92

00:43:45.000 It's funny because we started doing sales for emergency food supplies.

00:43:49.000 There have been how many disastrous floods where people get locked out of resources?

00:43:52.000 All kinds!

00:43:52.000 There's one just happened in Kentucky.

00:43:53.000 A horrible one.

00:43:54.000 And when you get your supply lines shut down and you spent 70 bucks on like a food bucket so you know you've got freeze-dried food to eat, that's not about the apocalypse.

00:44:02.000 No.

00:44:02.000 But they're all laughing.

00:44:04.000 And now they're like, food shortage is coming.

00:44:06.000 So my point is just, man, You've got a group of people in this country, people who watch shows like this, who are interested and looking for nuanced context.

00:44:15.000 And then you've got people who are just like, tell me what to do and how to do it and who to make fun of.

00:44:18.000 Yeah.

00:44:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:20.000 And they all live in douche cubes in cities.

00:44:23.000 And they're all going to be in trouble if there's any, if all the policies that they love, like, let's have green energy.

00:44:32.000 Cool.

00:44:32.000 Where's that coming from?

00:44:34.000 Naturally, yes.

00:44:35.000 Well, do you see that there was a wind turbine that was spraying oil?

00:44:39.000 And then everyone went, huh?

00:44:41.000 There's a ton of oil.

00:44:43.000 How do you it's got to spin.

00:44:44.000 It's got to lubricate.

00:44:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:46.000 I mean, fair point.

00:44:48.000 It's not burning the oil.

00:44:49.000 Right. But they're still they still require a lot of oil. 0.93

00:44:52.000 Do you know how much like ungreen energy it takes

00:44:56.000 to manufacture one of those?

00:44:58.000 It's insane, man.

00:44:58.000 Those things have to run for like 18 years to break even, I think.

00:45:03.000 And don't they have a lifespan of like 20 or 25 years, a lot of them?

00:45:06.000 It's insane.

00:45:07.000 But people don't realize that.

00:45:09.000 It's like, dude, please read about energy, okay?

00:45:12.000 Like fossil fuel energy.

00:45:13.000 We're talking about crude petroleum.

00:45:14.000 We're talking about natural gas.

00:45:16.000 It is ready to be converted.

00:45:18.000 Green energy is you have to convert all these materials into a system that can then convert other energy.

00:45:25.000 So it's like a second layer system.

00:45:28.000 I'm a fan of solar for one reason.

00:45:30.000 Not that it's more energy efficient or more green, but that it can give you your own circuit.

00:45:35.000 So all the energy that goes into the production of the panels, you can then have an isolated circuit.

00:45:39.000 You can be off the grid.

00:45:41.000 That's great.

00:45:42.000 But you need sun during a storm.

00:45:44.000 You don't got it.

00:45:44.000 So now you need batteries.

00:45:46.000 You need a supply chain with solar. I'll put it, I'll just simply put, it's just, it's scary

00:45:52.000 when you realize the majority of people, or I should say at least Democrat voters, but you

00:45:57.000 know, probably a lot of conservative voters too, they don't know what they're voting for.

00:46:00.000 They don't understand layer two of an issue.

00:46:04.000 The left is just like, Greta Thunberg, we gotta ban fossil fuels now.

00:46:08.000 It's like, okay, 60 million people dead in three days.

00:46:10.000 At least.

00:46:11.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 And I think there's estimates of like a billion people dead in a year if you cut off fossil fuels.

00:46:16.000 No, the carrying capacity of the Earth is somewhere between half a billion to a billion without fossil fuels.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:21.000 That's it.

00:46:21.000 Like, that's just the reality.

00:46:22.000 So, okay.

00:46:24.000 Put a room full of people.

00:46:27.000 One out of eight get to live without fossil fuels.

00:46:30.000 That's it.

00:46:31.000 That's the reality.

00:46:33.000 I mean, it's crazy to me.

00:46:35.000 It's not really even debatable.

00:46:37.000 You look at the math on that, especially if you want a quick transition.

00:46:40.000 If you're talking about a 50-year transition, okay, maybe it's a little different.

00:46:44.000 But if you're talking about a quick transition, no.

00:46:46.000 I'm thinking about tapping the vacuum for energy, like the vacuum fluctuations and stuff.

00:46:50.000 There's so much technology.

00:46:52.000 Fusion, for instance.

00:46:55.000 I don't think that the power structure wants people to have unlimited energy.

00:46:59.000 They want them attached to a grid so that they can monitor it and make sure no one person has too much power.

00:47:04.000 What does that mean?

00:47:05.000 Let me pull up this next story here from Blaze.

00:47:07.000 This is crazy.

00:47:08.000 CEO says two-thirds of ammunition deliveries have gone missing with UPS.

00:47:13.000 That's a lot of ammo, so where is it now?

00:47:14.000 Alright.

00:47:16.000 Maybe this is just one company.

00:47:18.000 Patrick Kahn, CEO of thegunfood.com says he's lost thousands of dollars worth of ammo because customers' orders don't always seem to make it to their doors, especially when delivering with UPS.

00:47:26.000 He says about 18,000 rounds of ammo shipped through UPS, only a third were actually delivered, so where is it going?

00:47:32.000 Okay, now hold on.

00:47:34.000 One company, First off, 18,000 rounds of ammo is not very much.

00:47:38.000 So my first thought when I see this story is particularly sensational, also kind of alarming if it is part of something greater.

00:47:47.000 And I think that's kind of what they're hinting at, that things are starting to break down.

00:47:51.000 So you've got now, they're going to be hiring 87,000 IRS agents and they're giving them hollow points.

00:47:58.000 Right?

00:47:58.000 They bought hollow points for the IRS.

00:48:00.000 And the Gates introduced the legislation that was like, no, we're not going to give them ammunition.

00:48:04.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:48:05.000 Yeah.

00:48:05.000 So, so it's just the reason I bring this story up is not to insinuate that one company seeing their ammo go missing is indicative of a collapse, but just like it's another grain of sand in this heap with IRS agents being armed with Taiwan that maybe the fourth turning is upon us.

00:48:23.000 You're familiar with Strassel.

00:48:25.000 What do you think?

00:48:26.000 And do you think this plays anything into it?

00:48:27.000 I mean, there's a lot of people.

00:48:30.000 I'm not sure what I think about cycles.

00:48:33.000 Generational cycles.

00:48:35.000 I mean, I know enough about physics to know all energy moves in waves and cycles, so it's almost certainly... They seem to make a lot of sense, right?

00:48:45.000 I don't know.

00:48:46.000 And then fourth turning is just one of many different historical cycle-type things. 0.99

00:48:51.000 I don't think you have to know anything about cycles to just look around and be like, a lot of shit is hitting a lot of fans right now. 0.90

00:48:58.000 What do you think happens to a city like New York if the supply chain just was halted? 0.96

00:49:05.000 Not this past winter, but two winters ago, I can tell you what happens to a city like Austin when the supply chain breaks.

00:49:10.000 Because I was there for the winter apocalypse.

00:49:11.000 Do you guys remember this?

00:49:13.000 Okay, so I grew up driving.

00:49:15.000 I spent seven years in Chicago.

00:49:17.000 I know how to drive in snow.

00:49:18.000 And no one in Texas did, because it's all Texans and Californians.

00:49:22.000 My first year in Dallas, I remember having to drive everyone around because they couldn't do it.

00:49:25.000 They have no idea.

00:49:26.000 And so it snowed a lot.

00:49:28.000 And so for seven days, basically, everyone was locked in.

00:49:31.000 But really, for four days, everything was truly down.

00:49:37.000 By the end of the, by the beginning of the fourth day, one of the people who worked, I was still at my company, who worked for my company, she was, she lived like eight blocks from the office, was walking into the office, right?

00:49:50.000 Because we were all remote, so like we could keep working.

00:49:53.000 She had people trying to rob her, but like these are clearly not professionals.

00:49:57.000 It was like a dude who was hungry, right?

00:50:00.000 I mean, my company was 75 people full-time in Austin at that point, and they were all like millennials who were like, LOL, I have Cheetos in my freezer. 1.00

00:50:11.000 I don't know what to, that's all I have.

00:50:13.000 Like I had to drive, I had just gotten a cow slaughtered, and so I literally drove like 200 pounds of meat in to the office, and then a bunch of them walked in to get it. 0.99

00:50:23.000 Dude, shit went nuts there. 0.98

00:50:25.000 There was five and six hour lines to get like A bag of pasta? 1.00

00:50:31.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 Like, it was bad, man.

00:50:33.000 And this is just... This wasn't even like... The grid didn't go... Grid kind of went down a little bit.

00:50:38.000 But, like, it was bad.

00:50:39.000 This is what I'm talking about.

00:50:40.000 When I tell people, like, when I do a pitch for emergency food, I'm talking about this.

00:50:45.000 Yes.

00:50:45.000 And, like, sometimes it rains.

00:50:47.000 Yes.

00:50:48.000 But you get all these leftists that are, like, mocking the idea.

00:50:51.000 And then when it actually happens... Yeah.

00:50:52.000 They're hungry.

00:50:53.000 This is why I think they're gonna eat each other.

00:50:55.000 Like, it's gonna be... And it's like... Bro.

00:50:59.000 Do you see the New York Times already saying the time for cannibalism or whatever they're writing about it?

00:51:03.000 Listen, go ahead.

00:51:04.000 Have fun.

00:51:04.000 You're in New York.

00:51:05.000 Go eat your neighbor. 0.91

00:51:06.000 I don't care. 0.97

00:51:08.000 No, seriously, I don't.

00:51:09.000 Eat your neighbor. 0.58

00:51:10.000 No, if you want to belong to a death cult, then you get to reap the consequences.

00:51:13.000 I don't.

00:51:14.000 I don't belong to that.

00:51:15.000 I've prepared.

00:51:16.000 I'm around a bunch of great people who are all ready to... I don't need to worry about it.

00:51:19.000 That's their problem.

00:51:20.000 It's like zombies.

00:51:21.000 But I mean literally.

00:51:22.000 If you have people who live in New York City, they've prepared for nothing.

00:51:27.000 There's clearly signs indicating something is hitting us right now.

00:51:30.000 The food supply, we've been told over and over again since the start of the year.

00:51:34.000 The president said it in a press conference like three months ago.

00:51:36.000 And they're still mocking the idea that they would do any kind of preparation.

00:51:41.000 And so I'm just like, it's a zombie horde.

00:51:44.000 They don't think for themselves.

00:51:45.000 They don't care to solve problems.

00:51:47.000 They are just standing there in the crowd, mindless, and then quite literally, yo, If the supply chain collapses and you got 2.5 million people on Manhattan Island alone, let alone Central Brooklyn, how do you get out of Central Brooklyn?

00:51:59.000 You don't.

00:52:00.000 No.

00:52:00.000 You stay there.

00:52:01.000 But no, no, but I mean like, stay there, you're gonna have to try to get out.

00:52:06.000 There's not gonna be food and people are gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be nightmarish.

00:52:10.000 Yeah, no, I mean like you, like it's, it'll get, it'll get abandoned prison camp bad.

00:52:16.000 Yep.

00:52:17.000 Like, maybe five days?

00:52:20.000 I wouldn't be surprised if you see slavery. 0.67

00:52:22.000 Oh, way past that.

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 I mean, roving gangs, warlords, like, it doesn't take long to get there in a true grid-down situation.

00:52:32.000 What do they say?

00:52:32.000 You're three meals away from a revolution?

00:52:34.000 Something like that?

00:52:35.000 No, 12 missed meals?

00:52:36.000 Well, it's like a saying.

00:52:38.000 It's like... I think it's 96 hours and 12 missed meals.

00:52:41.000 Is that what it is?

00:52:41.000 I think.

00:52:43.000 And then people just start losing it.

00:52:45.000 Yep.

00:52:46.000 And then also, where do you get your water from?

00:52:47.000 See, out here, there's a river.

00:52:50.000 And we also, we have a creek as well.

00:52:52.000 And then, so we can go out.

00:52:54.000 You're great.

00:52:55.000 You're good to go.

00:52:55.000 And then I've got emergency filters and I've got other stuff.

00:52:58.000 But we also have a well.

00:53:00.000 We got a well.

00:53:02.000 And so if everything went south and the grid shut down or whatever, I'd be like, just another old day, I guess.

00:53:08.000 We've got tons of backup batteries.

00:53:09.000 We've got a massive solar backup system at the new facility we're building.

00:53:13.000 But people in these cities, When COVID happened, they're locked in their apartments, they have no food, and they're losing their minds.

00:53:19.000 It's crazy.

00:53:20.000 It's like a stress test.

00:53:21.000 Well, we just saw it in Shanghai.

00:53:23.000 Yeah.

00:53:24.000 Like, they went on a hard, hard lockdown, and no one knows how many people died there.

00:53:29.000 You know, the Chinese are real sketchy about that, but all those videos coming out, people were like... You see the pictures of people taking the refrigerator?

00:53:36.000 The guy takes the refrigerator, pushes it onto his balcony, it's open and empty.

00:53:39.000 Because they had no food.

00:53:41.000 People were losing it.

00:53:42.000 I remember when it was Sandy, Hurricane Sandy in New York.

00:53:48.000 That was bad.

00:53:49.000 I was in New York and it was crazy to see how high the floodwaters got.

00:53:52.000 Windows were smashed out from the surge.

00:53:55.000 They're the coolest thing I saw was when the downed bus stops skateboarders were grinding on them So they were having a blast but then you go to the bodegas.

00:54:03.000 There's no electricity nothing So all the perishables have expired within a couple days and I went in there were two guys outside holding like two by fours a big line and And they were like one person at a time.

00:54:14.000 I walked in, cash only obviously, and the guy was just like, he's like, don't touch the perishables, like the milk, everything's bad, you don't eat it, but anything that's not perishable, like the high fructose corn juice and like the canned stuff is good.

00:54:28.000 And so I went and I was like, I got like a Coke, and I was like, it's warm, you know, but it's all you get.

00:54:33.000 Yo.

00:54:33.000 And the other thing too is people don't realize how quickly it's going to go to like, To the 1800s.

00:54:38.000 No more cold drinks, no more ice, no more ice cream, no more flushing the toilet.

00:54:44.000 Nope.

00:54:45.000 You're going back in time real quick.

00:54:46.000 Yeah, and then the question becomes, how long does it last?

00:54:49.000 Oh, for them, that... So, I put it this way.

00:54:52.000 New York gets supply chain disruption.

00:54:55.000 Like, the whole system just fails for some reason.

00:54:58.000 You get a couple days where it's guys with 2x4s guarding the bodegas, and people going in.

00:55:03.000 Three days after that, the food's gone.

00:55:05.000 And now it's people fighting in the streets for the last can of beans.

00:55:08.000 Three days after that, people have already started to leave, they're gonna be eating fish out of the Hudson, and they're gonna be barfing and sick the entire time.

00:55:16.000 But I think the other thing that happens, and we saw this during COVID, is those who can, like wealthy people who can afford to move more quickly, will move into upstate New York, Connecticut, parts of New Jersey, and then continue to put pressure on those systems that don't normally have that many people there.

00:55:30.000 So those grocery stores will start to feel the effect.

00:55:32.000 You know what you're missing?

00:55:33.000 The rich people might go fast.

00:55:35.000 But then what happens, you know, you hit days 5 to 10, when all the stores are empty, if nothing's coming in, what happens is people start moving out.

00:55:43.000 And not the rich people.

00:55:45.000 The people walking out.

00:55:48.000 And not a few of them.

00:55:49.000 Tens or hundreds of thousands.

00:55:52.000 So you've got a few bridges and tunnels.

00:55:54.000 Right, that's it.

00:55:54.000 Bottlenecking the whole thing.

00:55:55.000 I know, did you see how they put, it's so weird you're talking about this, because they just put those massive metal doors on the tunnels, on the Lincoln Tunnel.

00:56:05.000 No way!

00:56:06.000 They called them flood tunnels, but they're not flood tunnels.

00:56:09.000 They're getting ready to lock everybody in, dude.

00:56:11.000 I think so.

00:56:12.000 I know it sounds crazy to even talk about this.

00:56:14.000 This sounds lunacy.

00:56:16.000 But they just, like I saw this like a month ago, wasn't it?

00:56:18.000 Yeah, Lincoln Tunnel has one, and I think the Midtown Tunnel.

00:56:23.000 I think all of them, maybe.

00:56:24.000 What do I search for?

00:56:25.000 Flood doors?

00:56:26.000 Yeah, flood doors, Lincoln Tunnel.

00:56:28.000 But what about, how do they stop the bridges, you know?

00:56:30.000 Oh yeah, look at this.

00:56:31.000 I'm not sure.

00:56:32.000 These things?

00:56:33.000 This is a couple years ago, actually.

00:56:35.000 No, one of them, like, I know just one of them.

00:56:39.000 44,600 pound floodgates installed in NYC tunnels to protect from super storms.

00:56:43.000 Maybe it's because of Sandy.

00:56:45.000 They were like, okay.

00:56:45.000 It's not unthinkable, yeah.

00:56:46.000 It's not.

00:56:47.000 It does both.

00:56:48.000 Yeah.

00:56:48.000 Stops the water and the people.

00:56:49.000 And the people, yeah.

00:56:50.000 You can go north out of Manhattan.

00:56:52.000 I mean, there's still rivers to the west, but you can walk north.

00:56:55.000 There's no, it just goes up into the north.

00:56:56.000 You can walk, but like, if things are in that much chaos, how far are you really gonna get on foot?

00:57:00.000 Oh man.

00:57:01.000 A leak in the Lincoln Tunnel in 2020.

00:57:05.000 People were freaking out.

00:57:06.000 So it could be why.

00:57:07.000 But I do think it's funny that they put up these big barriers.

00:57:11.000 I know, dude.

00:57:11.000 Bottlenecks.

00:57:12.000 It's gonna be like, you know, you see the Batman movie where the cops block all the bridges and like nobody leaves the city.

00:57:20.000 Yeah.

00:57:21.000 I don't know.

00:57:22.000 You know, look.

00:57:23.000 When we were talking about World War I the other day, the crazy thing is people don't realize

00:57:27.000 how quickly things fall apart.

00:57:28.000 And it was just like, grass, was it gradually then suddenly?

00:57:34.000 Yeah.

00:57:36.000 I think that people underestimate how quickly things can fall apart

00:57:41.000 because they're told to sort of live for now and live for impulsively.

00:57:44.000 I think this is a lot of like left-leaning culture that you wouldn't think ahead.

00:57:48.000 Like when you say like people make fun of people who are acquiring food because they're like,

00:57:51.000 oh, what do you think?

00:57:52.000 It's gonna be a doomsday.

00:57:53.000 It's gonna be a purge all at once.

00:57:54.000 Like, no, not necessarily, but also you can't think past the two days in front of you

00:57:59.000 because the impulsivity culture and the self-indulgence culture tells you

00:58:02.000 that it's not worth dealing with.

00:58:04.000 Well that and then also I mean like in 2019 I made fun of preppers and I didn't really I had a couple guns but they're like hunting like I wasn't.

00:58:11.000 You've converted.

00:58:13.000 Oh to 100% of course.

00:58:16.000 How could you not after the last two and a half years right?

00:58:18.000 But I think it's also that like We've grown up in arguably the richest, most abundant, safest period in world history, in the safest country in the world.

00:58:29.000 So it's like, who alive has had to deal with anything truly catastrophic?

00:58:34.000 Like we don't, I don't know, you know?

00:58:36.000 And so like the idea that this could happen is just not, it's not in the living memory of anybody.

00:58:42.000 Yeah, we've had a golden age of sorts.

00:58:46.000 At least from our perspective, the security's been fat and happy.

00:58:51.000 I know we've had problems.

00:58:52.000 I know there's been a recession.

00:58:53.000 I know there's been 9-11, things like that.

00:58:54.000 Come on, man.

00:58:55.000 We've been fat as a culture and as a country. 0.92

00:58:57.000 We've been as fat and happy as it gets.

00:58:59.000 And growing fatter by the day.

00:59:02.000 You know where body positivity comes from?

00:59:05.000 Yeah, of course.

00:59:07.000 It's because too many people... Because everyone's fat.

00:59:10.000 So they're all now agreeing with each other that we're okay to do this.

00:59:13.000 Well, this looks good, yeah.

00:59:14.000 Exactly.

00:59:14.000 Okay, go ahead.

00:59:15.000 See how that works for you.

00:59:16.000 They've got that store that... Morbid?

00:59:19.000 Morbid?

00:59:20.000 Torrid?

00:59:20.000 Oh, yeah, Torrid.

00:59:21.000 No, I call it Morbid on purpose.

00:59:22.000 I was gonna say, do they really call it Morbid?

00:59:25.000 It's called Torrid.

00:59:26.000 I call it Morbid.

00:59:27.000 Close enough.

00:59:27.000 Tim's gonna buy it, call it that, and be like, still shop there, see what happens.

00:59:31.000 No, I was thinking of opening a store and calling it Morbid.

00:59:34.000 And it would just be like, huge clothes.

00:59:37.000 Chonkers?

00:59:37.000 Chonkers.

00:59:39.000 But that's a meme, so that's okay, right?

00:59:41.000 But that's America.

00:59:42.000 That's America.

00:59:43.000 So I guess my question, my next question is like, how many days until people are eating each other in New York?

00:59:48.000 Like the tunnels are closed and they're banging on the door and they can't get out?

00:59:52.000 There's no food?

00:59:54.000 There is... I can't remember.

00:59:55.000 I read a book about survival that had like a chart.

00:59:59.000 I think it's under... It's way faster than I thought.

01:00:03.000 It's under two weeks.

01:00:04.000 I can't remember the exact... Three days?

01:00:06.000 No.

01:00:07.000 Not three days they started to eat each other.

01:00:09.000 That's a pretty big taboo to cross.

01:00:12.000 That would have to be, I think that's in week two, but not by the end of week two.

01:00:15.000 That's why I don't, I feel like week two, I mean, you can go a month without food, right?

01:00:21.000 Most people can't.

01:00:22.000 When your muscles start breaking down, you're just... And there's going to be so much panic.

01:00:26.000 People are going to feel the desperation sooner than if they were intentionally.

01:00:29.000 You know what would happen, though?

01:00:31.000 I bet the first person to get eaten, it's not going to be like some dude just goes, I'm sorry, I'm hungry, and like hits somebody.

01:00:37.000 It's going to be like somebody falls down and gets trampled and then they're like, well, let's eat.

01:00:41.000 Yeah, let's eat.

01:00:42.000 It's like Lord of the Rings.

01:00:44.000 Meat's on the menu, boys.

01:00:47.000 It's nightmarish to think about this stuff.

01:00:48.000 That's why we got like 50 chickens.

01:00:50.000 No, that's why I have two cows and a flock of sheep, 24 sheep and chickens.

01:00:55.000 I was reading about bugs.

01:00:57.000 And what is the protein called?

01:00:58.000 Chittin? 0.98

01:00:58.000 Is that what it's called? 0.98

01:00:59.000 I don't know.

01:01:00.000 I'm not going to eat the bugs, Tim.

01:01:01.000 That's their carapace. 0.90

01:01:02.000 It's made of that stuff.

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:04.000 I was reading you can't digest it.

01:01:05.000 It's like chitin or whatever.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:07.000 You can't digest it.

01:01:08.000 And so that's why you let the chickens eat it.

01:01:12.000 Yes.

01:01:12.000 And then you eat the chickens.

01:01:13.000 Or the eggs.

01:01:14.000 You eat the eggs, and then one time comes, you eat the chicken.

01:01:16.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 And then, it's amazing.

01:01:17.000 Here's the best part.

01:01:18.000 Chickens, they make more of themselves. 1.00

01:01:20.000 Yes, yes.

01:01:20.000 It's crazy.

01:01:21.000 They replicate.

01:01:21.000 They replicate, and then they just eat the grass, and you just gotta make sure nothing else eats them, and then you get to eat them.

01:01:25.000 Yep.

01:01:25.000 And they taste good.

01:01:26.000 Yep.

01:01:26.000 You were talking about, like, how our society doesn't have a story right now.

01:01:30.000 Yeah.

01:01:30.000 I'm kind of obsessive about talking about new technology, like, You know, graphing industry and iron fertilization of the oceans, regrowing the coral reefs and things like that.

01:01:38.000 Yeah.

01:01:38.000 Sometimes it's really about how you introduce the ideas, because like if we're in the moment of all like blackmailing each other, like what we did.

01:01:45.000 It's not tech.

01:01:46.000 I promise you that's not the story.

01:01:48.000 Tech might be amazing and it might help us in a million ways, but the general feeling from most people is that that God has failed.

01:01:57.000 Then the other idea is monotheism and God and the unification of the consciousness, but I almost feel like I'm selling out when I do that.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, you know, there's something to be said for that, man. 0.94

01:02:07.000 I've been an atheist my whole life, and then I did psychedelic medicine as a therapy, and I was like, oh shit, I'm totally wrong. 0.71

01:02:15.000 Of course God exists, it's just not in the way that religious dogma talks about it. 0.95

01:02:19.000 It's more of an all things whatever.

01:02:21.000 That might be, but that story might be a little airy-fairy for at least right now.

01:02:26.000 I think generally, revivals generally happen after people have suffered a lot.

01:02:31.000 We're going into the suffering phase, not the revival phase.

01:02:36.000 2028 should be fun though.

01:02:38.000 Six more years.

01:02:39.000 I'll be in my 40s.

01:02:40.000 I don't know.

01:02:40.000 I think we got at least a decade.

01:02:42.000 There's a lot of unraveling to happen.

01:02:45.000 I kind of, what's the worst case scenario for someone who lives out in the middle of nowhere?

01:02:50.000 Asteroid strike.

01:02:51.000 No, no, I mean like with society collapsing.

01:02:53.000 No, no, no, hold on, hold on.

01:02:54.000 I'm not going to invoke a meteor strike.

01:02:55.000 This is really important.

01:02:57.000 Living out in the middle of nowhere by yourself, you're actually not, you're better off than in a city.

01:03:01.000 Not a great spot.

01:03:03.000 Being in the country with a community, that's the better spot.

01:03:10.000 Way off by yourself, you're actually an easy target.

01:03:13.000 And you don't have anyone around to help, you know?

01:03:16.000 Whereas if it's like us and like eight neighbors or you kind of know your neighbors, that's a different situation.

01:03:21.000 Build a fortress around your... Doesn't necessarily have to have a fortress.

01:03:24.000 Like it doesn't have to be a castle, right?

01:03:26.000 You just have to kind of know.

01:03:27.000 Dude, I joke about like one day we'll be hanging out, we'll be doing the show and we'll hear like a noise and then we'll like run outside and there'll be some hipster guy in like flannel with a beanie on and a handlebar mustache trying to steal a chicken and he's like, I'm just hungry!

01:03:42.000 And we're like, stop him!

01:03:43.000 Chase him down.

01:03:44.000 He fled Brooklyn. 0.98

01:03:46.000 Dude, in Texas, you paint your fence posts purple and you put no trespassing sign because that's basically the, you know, if you come on land, we're going to shoot you.

01:03:55.000 Purple? 0.53

01:03:55.000 Yeah, purple. 0.53

01:03:56.000 That's like the color for the purple heart.

01:03:58.000 Why is that?

01:03:59.000 I don't know.

01:04:00.000 They just picked that.

01:04:01.000 That's the color.

01:04:02.000 That's deoxygenated blood.

01:04:04.000 No, dude.

01:04:05.000 One of the weird things about Texas, like animal wrestling, you just shoot. 0.99

01:04:09.000 If you have animals in a field and you've posted and whatever and someone's in there, you can shoot them in the back. 0.99

01:04:17.000 It doesn't matter. 0.92

01:04:18.000 You're not going to prison.

01:04:19.000 You don't steal animals in Texas.

01:04:21.000 You get shot.

01:04:21.000 It's bad.

01:04:23.000 Yeah, I'm sure those laws go way back.

01:04:25.000 Yeah.

01:04:25.000 Do you think that I, that we, cause I think we are building the story for the future right now.

01:04:30.000 Maybe nothing we say today is going to cause it to change tomorrow, but in a 20 years when people are like, I've had enough, they'll look at this video and that will be what inspires them.

01:04:40.000 Right.

01:04:41.000 What do you think?

01:04:42.000 Like psychedelics, God, consciousness.

01:04:44.000 Psychedelics are just a tool. 0.99

01:04:45.000 I'm not, like, I like psychedelics, I use them as medicine, like, they've been transformative for me, but I'm not like, you know, uh, bless his heart, like, I love Aubrey Marcus, but I'm not like, oh, you gotta, everyone's gotta do ayahuasca!

01:04:55.000 No, everyone doesn't, you know, like, they're just a tool to achieve a goal, they're not the thing.

01:05:01.000 Like, imagine if I was super into hammers, like, what, what, why?

01:05:05.000 But if I'm like, I want to build a lot of houses for people to live in, you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense.

01:05:09.000 So I just look at psychedelics as the hammer, right?

01:05:11.000 I kind of, I've always kind of felt that there's a lot of people who really need some kind of hammer experience.

01:05:18.000 Hammer, as one way to put it, because I don't want to.

01:05:20.000 Hammers are important. 0.93

01:05:21.000 But, but, but I don't want to, I don't mean just like one thing like DMT or something like that.

01:05:25.000 But I think a lot of people are like locked in their minds.

01:05:27.000 They can't, they can't see outside the box.

01:05:30.000 It really shocked me awake with the first time I took mushrooms.

01:05:32.000 I was walking around Manhattan Beach and looking at it was trash night. 0.76

01:05:35.000 And I was like, where does this trash go?

01:05:37.000 What have we done as a species? 0.61

01:05:39.000 You needed mushrooms?

01:05:41.000 Yeah, we're just like, no, that's the point.

01:05:43.000 It changed my core, like it changed my DNA and the way I was perceiving it.

01:05:48.000 This is exactly what I mean.

01:05:51.000 For me, I remember I would talk to my friends and they would start asking these crazy philosophical questions or when they were stoned or something and I was like, I don't need whatever it is you're doing to ask these questions, but clearly you do. 0.82

01:06:01.000 Maybe there are some people who are like mindless cogs, but then they have an experience, like Ian was saying, and all of a sudden they start asking themselves, where's that garbage going?

01:06:09.000 Then they realize, hey, wait a minute, probably not somewhere good.

01:06:12.000 Just like so many problems, they're just put in on an island and waiting for it to go away.

01:06:16.000 They put on a garbage barge, kick it out, and forget about it.

01:06:18.000 Of course, now we find there's mushrooms and bacteria that'll digest it and turn it into sugar. 0.84

01:06:22.000 There's lots of cool stuff.

01:06:23.000 I think some of it is with substances.

01:06:24.000 It takes away the inhibition.

01:06:25.000 People may think about these things on some level, but they don't want to ask because they don't want to be the only one.

01:06:30.000 They want to blend in and not... But Ian asked himself.

01:06:34.000 Right, but you were saying your friends are posing these questions to you while you're hanging out.

01:06:38.000 There's like a desensitization without the psychedelics, like right now you're kind of blending into the wall.

01:06:43.000 I see like the scene, but when I'm on psilocybin, you stand out.

01:06:47.000 Life is very different than non-life.

01:06:49.000 It becomes very apparent that we have created this thing or someone before me built this freaking set that we're on.

01:06:56.000 And now you just wake up one day and you're here.

01:06:59.000 And you're like, look at all this stuff that exists.

01:07:00.000 It creates a value for life, I think.

01:07:03.000 At least psilocybin did for me.

01:07:05.000 I think a big problem, one of the big problems we've had is that millennials, and to an extent every generation before it, but growing in scale, don't understand that other people did work to make things exist that you have.

01:07:19.000 So, like, for example, I remember I was riding my bike across the Williamsburg Bridge in New York, and I just thought to myself, like, man, Some people worked really, really hard to make this bridge happen.

01:07:30.000 And I don't think twice when I ride my bike over it.

01:07:32.000 I don't pay for it.

01:07:34.000 I have no idea.

01:07:34.000 I mean, I got city taxes cover the costs, but it's just there.

01:07:38.000 Well, one day there was some dude or some lady and they were just like, yo, we need a bridge.

01:07:42.000 And then all of these humans were like, let's work really, really hard and sweat and tears.

01:07:48.000 And probably a lot of people died in the construction.

01:07:50.000 And now all these people are just like, what do you mean?

01:07:51.000 The bridge is just there.

01:07:53.000 And it's like, you don't understand the value of what was gifted to you.

01:07:57.000 And the thing about the bridge is you could be a tourist and you get free use of it.

01:08:02.000 Like you're not paying anything for this.

01:08:04.000 It's just there and you get it.

01:08:06.000 I think that is like the generational wealth of Millennials and now Gen Z. They don't understand how much blood, sweat, and tears went into making the world so comfortable.

01:08:16.000 I don't think any young people do.

01:08:17.000 I didn't understand when I was 25.

01:08:19.000 I'm not sure if it's that generation specifically.

01:08:21.000 I'm more Gen X, I guess. 1.00

01:08:23.000 And, like, how's a fucking idiot 25? 1.00

01:08:25.000 What the hell did I know? 1.00

01:08:27.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

01:08:27.000 And I know my parents were, because they're still idiots. 1.00

01:08:30.000 In their 70s, right? 1.00

01:08:31.000 So, like, yeah.

01:08:33.000 Have you taken ayahuasca?

01:08:35.000 No.

01:08:35.000 Yeah, I'd love it if my parents took ayahuasca.

01:08:37.000 We need people to get access to their ancestral knowledge.

01:08:39.000 This is what I'm talking about.

01:08:40.000 You mentioned earlier you don't think the technology is the story, but, like, In the past the story was told through new technology like the printing press allowed us to proliferate the story or writing allowed us to proliferate the idea of God to the masses so maybe that the metaverse or that the internet is the vessel that the story will be told.

01:09:00.000 So the post-World War II story in America was that progress solves all and progress is the goal.

01:09:08.000 Where has that gotten us?

01:09:10.000 Modern monetary theory.

01:09:11.000 What is progress?

01:09:15.000 The story coming out of World War II was that progress, the American story is a story of progress, right? 0.57

01:09:23.000 It's just progress.

01:09:25.000 But like, it's like the concept of growth for the sake of growth

01:09:33.000 is the philosophy of cancer, right?

01:09:35.000 Progress just to make progress because it's technological progress is serving a different God.

01:09:42.000 It is not serving humans, right?

01:09:44.000 Whereas like I would contrast that to Like, an idea that could, and I mean a meta-idea that could replace that would be prosperity.

01:09:51.000 What does prosperity for humans look like?

01:09:54.000 Because it does not always, in fact, rarely does it mean more technology.

01:09:58.000 In fact, more technology is usually antithetical to prosperity for humans.

01:10:04.000 It might be great for owners. 0.98

01:10:07.000 God, I sound like a goddamn Marxist right now. 0.99

01:10:10.000 And I'm not at all. 0.99

01:10:11.000 I really am not.

01:10:12.000 I can't stand the Marxists.

01:10:13.000 Interesting philosophy.

01:10:14.000 But honestly, if there was one thing Karl Marx got right, it was at least the beginning of a critique of understanding that there is a relationship between a human and the value they create that matters that's not captured in the normal way you calculate capital, right?

01:10:33.000 What is wrong with your show?

01:10:34.000 You're getting me to defend the system at Marks.

01:10:36.000 I'm going crazy.

01:10:36.000 I know.

01:10:37.000 This is nuts.

01:10:40.000 I'm a big believer now in the way to measure anything is how does this benefit humans?

01:10:48.000 Humans, not stakeholder capitalism.

01:10:50.000 And that's all nonsense. 0.98

01:10:51.000 That's all a scam to screw people. 0.77

01:10:54.000 But like, how am I better?

01:10:55.000 How is my neighbors better?

01:10:56.000 How's my family better?

01:10:57.000 How are my kids better?

01:10:58.000 How are my animals better?

01:11:00.000 Right?

01:11:01.000 And like, I like technology when it serves humans and prosperity, but like...

01:11:07.000 A lot of it doesn't, man.

01:11:08.000 Can I ask a question?

01:11:09.000 Sorry to interrupt.

01:11:10.000 How does this prosperity doctrine fit in with like your past?

01:11:13.000 Because I feel like in some ways you had a very different mindset when you were 20s when you were like the pickup artist and you were like... Don't you ever... You can call me anything but not pickup artist.

01:11:22.000 Do you want to call me a scientist?

01:11:24.000 I actually would not be upset if you called me a Marxist based on what I just said because I kind of sound like one.

01:11:29.000 But not pickup artist.

01:11:30.000 That's... Sorry, what's the technical term for the industry that you were sort of the head of?

01:11:34.000 I was a writer.

01:11:34.000 Uh-huh.

01:11:35.000 Yes.

01:11:36.000 That's what we're gonna call it?

01:11:37.000 Oh, were you teaching people how to hook up?

01:11:40.000 No.

01:11:40.000 No, I never did that.

01:11:41.000 Sorry, he was writing?

01:11:42.000 No.

01:11:43.000 No, no, no.

01:11:44.000 Don't put me... Look, I like Neil Strauss.

01:11:46.000 I know him and that crew.

01:11:47.000 I was never one of them.

01:11:48.000 I was never in that world.

01:11:50.000 I wrote... If you want to put me in a category... The New York Times said I invented my own literary genre, which, like, it's the New York Times, so whatever.

01:12:00.000 But, like, you don't put me in a category.

01:12:01.000 Put, like, Bukowski or Hunter S. Thompson or that sort of stuff.

01:12:05.000 No.

01:12:05.000 Like, writing about women is not, like, that has a long history.

01:12:10.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:12:11.000 But what I'm saying is your books, and I'm not critiquing you at all.

01:12:15.000 Like, it's just part of your story.

01:12:16.000 No, no, no.

01:12:16.000 You can critique me.

01:12:17.000 Just don't call me a pick up artist.

01:12:19.000 That's a different thing.

01:12:20.000 What is the word?

01:12:21.000 You're a writer who specialized in a very specific... Writing about my life.

01:12:25.000 Writing about your life, which had a lot to do with I was like a 20-something year old dude who got drunk and hooked up and act like an idiot. 0.93

01:12:33.000 And now you're someone who's saying, and I think it's cool, but we need to think about how we are affecting the humans around us, how we're affecting change, how we're affecting humanity. 0.75

01:12:43.000 Where did you come from?

01:12:44.000 How did this transition happen for you?

01:12:47.000 That's a very different question than how did you go from pick-up artist to this.

01:12:54.000 Honestly, it's a great question though.

01:12:55.000 It really is.

01:12:58.000 Look, I could say it's simple as well.

01:13:00.000 I grew up and matured, but it's more than that.

01:13:03.000 Honestly, I had to do my emotional work.

01:13:05.000 I had to face all the stuff I didn't want to face, all my trauma, all my issues, all the baggage that we all carry around.

01:13:12.000 I carry around just as much as anyone.

01:13:15.000 And I can just carry it around if I want, and that's what most people do.

01:13:18.000 But at some point I realized, and it was actually after a lot of success, way more success than I thought I needed to be happy.

01:13:26.000 And I was like 10% happier, right?

01:13:27.000 It's way better to be rich than to be poor.

01:13:29.000 Like, it's much nicer.

01:13:31.000 But it's like only that much better.

01:13:32.000 And I was like, well, okay.

01:13:34.000 And so I fixed everything in my life externally, and I was still unhappy.

01:13:37.000 I'm like, the only thing left is me.

01:13:39.000 That's it.

01:13:40.000 That was not an easy pill to swallow.

01:13:41.000 That was into my mid-30s.

01:13:43.000 I started therapy.

01:13:44.000 Therapy was a talk therapy.

01:13:46.000 It's like a serious in-depth psychoanalysis.

01:13:49.000 It was fine.

01:13:50.000 It was good.

01:13:51.000 It helped me a lot.

01:13:52.000 But it didn't really connect me to myself and my emotions.

01:13:56.000 There's a lot of ways to do that.

01:13:57.000 For me, the thing that cracked me open was MDMA therapy.

01:14:00.000 Like, that was just mind-blowing to me.

01:14:05.000 And that was when I was like, oh my god, I can feel love and sadness.

01:14:11.000 And then that's like I started about four years ago and that's really what I kind of knew all this intellectually, and I believed it, but I didn't get it, really, until I started to connect with myself.

01:14:22.000 And once you connect with yourself, then you connect with nature.

01:14:24.000 And that's when I was like, Oh, like, of course, God exists.

01:14:28.000 And I'm like, literally, I'll never forget, I did a session with MDMA and LSD. 0.99

01:14:32.000 And like, I had the experience of like, it sounds crazy if you've never done Psychedelics, but like the experience, I didn't talk to God, but the experience of God, and I remember I called my friend who's Mormon, and I'm like, dude, I thought you were just an idiot who was fooled. 0.97

01:14:46.000 And he's like, no, I'm like, I get it now. 0.87

01:14:48.000 God is an experience.

01:14:50.000 You're not actually, he's like, yes! 0.99

01:14:53.000 And I'm like, ah, fuck, dude, I'm so sorry. 1.00

01:14:55.000 I just thought you were stupid. 1.00

01:14:58.000 Really? 1.00

01:14:59.000 And I'm like, which a lot of religious people can be like, there's, oh, I'm gonna believe this because my mom said so.

01:15:05.000 But he's like one of those who really like has a relation, what he calls a relationship with God.

01:15:09.000 And I understand what it means now, right?

01:15:11.000 I don't frame it the way he does, but I get it.

01:15:13.000 And so once you start walking down that path, then I think, There's two ways.

01:15:19.000 There's multiple ways to go down that path. 0.99

01:15:21.000 A lot of what I'm saying, you can get kooky ESG clowns who are like, we need to kill a bunch of humans to save the planet. 0.99

01:15:29.000 No, I am not on that path. 0.96

01:15:31.000 But once you start connecting to yourself and you connect everything around you, I think it just... I don't think anything I'm saying is all that revolutionary.

01:15:39.000 It's just like, oh, of course.

01:15:41.000 You know, this just feels right.

01:15:42.000 This seems right.

01:15:43.000 This connects with what I have experienced, right?

01:15:48.000 I don't know.

01:15:49.000 Am I rambling or does this make sense?

01:15:52.000 Short answer is MDMA.

01:15:54.000 It has been the most important thing I've ever done in my life.

01:15:56.000 It's incredible.

01:15:57.000 Number one.

01:15:59.000 Incredible substance.

01:15:59.000 I've never used it in a therapy session, but they do that for soldiers that have returned that are suffering PTSD and things like that.

01:16:06.000 Yeah.

01:16:06.000 No, right now it's in stage three clinical trials to be legalized in 2023.

01:16:09.000 So it's not legal.

01:16:10.000 Like I had to find underground guides and all that.

01:16:13.000 I mean, you can do it on your own.

01:16:17.000 I like to have a guide and whatever, but they don't really do much.

01:16:21.000 They're just kind of there.

01:16:22.000 I've probably done 15 sessions in the last four years, and it is the most important thing I've ever done in my life.

01:16:29.000 And I'm married.

01:16:30.000 And I have four kids.

01:16:32.000 And people are like, not your kids and your wife?

01:16:33.000 I'm like, I wouldn't be married and I'd be a terrible father.

01:16:37.000 Like if I had not found this.

01:16:38.000 Seriously.

01:16:39.000 Like truly.

01:16:40.000 It's amazing when you cry.

01:16:41.000 Being able to cry.

01:16:42.000 Dude, the first time I ever felt love, really, I thought I felt love.

01:16:46.000 I was married with two kids when I first did MDMA therapy.

01:16:49.000 And almost as soon as it really hit, I'm like, oh my god, I had never felt... nothing remotely that deep ever in my life until I did that.

01:17:01.000 I didn't realize how traumatized and how emotionally constipated I was, you know?

01:17:09.000 And I had no idea.

01:17:10.000 I had no idea.

01:17:11.000 And then as I got deeper, man, Man, I got into the grief.

01:17:15.000 God, that was about two, three, two and a half years in.

01:17:18.000 It was nothing but grief, man, for like a year.

01:17:20.000 It didn't matter what I did.

01:17:21.000 I had so much grief in me that I had to feel that I'd pushed away my whole life.

01:17:27.000 I just wouldn't feel.

01:17:28.000 How did you stay sane between sessions while you were processing?

01:17:32.000 That's a great question.

01:17:33.000 I had some really, really good mentors around who had walked this path decades before and kind of knew and helped me, but it's basically called integration, right?

01:17:43.000 So, you know, I had a talk therapist, a different one from before, you know, and I actually had to really learn self-care, truly, deep, like, okay, I can't be working 15 hours a day anymore.

01:17:54.000 I can't this, I can't that's not going to work.

01:17:57.000 And so, journaling every day, which I've been doing for a while anyway, but I got serious about it.

01:18:04.000 You know, like got very serious about nutrition, very serious about sleep, all this sort of stuff.

01:18:10.000 And I, I mean, I changed.

01:18:13.000 It's crazy for me to think about what I was like, even six or seven years ago, but especially like 10 or 15 years ago.

01:18:22.000 In a lot of ways, I was the same person, but it's almost like I don't even know that dude from 15 years ago.

01:18:28.000 I almost just feel sad for him.

01:18:30.000 Do you ever want to change your name?

01:18:32.000 No, not at all.

01:18:33.000 No, no.

01:18:34.000 I don't mean this in a way like repudiate my past or I was a bad person.

01:18:37.000 No, I did some terrible stuff I shouldn't have done.

01:18:40.000 But I don't mean it like that.

01:18:41.000 I just mean I don't have any connection to that dude.

01:18:44.000 So your diet, you were talking earlier that you source most of your meat from your farm and a lot of stuff locally.

01:18:51.000 What did it used to be?

01:18:52.000 What did you change?

01:18:54.000 I've been eating healthy for about 15 years, meaning kind of like a paleo-ancestral diet, not a lot of carbs, no seed oils.

01:19:01.000 I knew that, but it was like, oh yeah, I go to Whole Foods, that chicken's got to be healthy.

01:19:07.000 Man, have you seen how chickens are raised and he doesn't?

01:19:10.000 Well, I'm sure you get that.

01:19:11.000 It's horrible, right?

01:19:12.000 They don't even walk, they get stuffed in cages.

01:19:13.000 Oh, dude, it's the worst.

01:19:15.000 And so, like, once you kind of understand that, it's like, okay, you eat what the animals eat, right?

01:19:21.000 So, if they're, even if they're healthy chickens, organic, and they're raised in these horrible, you know, massive pens where they, you know, they don't walk on the ground, they walk on dead chickens or whatever.

01:19:31.000 It's like, that's terrible.

01:19:33.000 That's unhealthy.

01:19:33.000 We got farms all over the place out here.

01:19:36.000 You drive five minutes, you get fresh farm tenderloins, you get fresh eggs, fresh butter.

01:19:42.000 Man, we've been cooking with real farm butter.

01:19:45.000 It's amazing.

01:19:47.000 You can't compare it.

01:19:50.000 So we've got salted and unsalted and you taste it and you're like, what is this?

01:19:54.000 And then you take the store bought butter and you're like, this is not food.

01:19:57.000 No, it's not.

01:19:58.000 It really is crazy.

01:19:58.000 It's actually not in a lot of cases.

01:20:00.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

01:20:01.000 You were talking about like the story of our time.

01:20:03.000 And it sounds like it's kind of a personal thing for the individual needs to realize their own story.

01:20:09.000 Like what you did with MDMA therapy and talk therapy basically was the talking the MDMA is the tool that you use during the talking.

01:20:15.000 Well, one's about the intellect and one's about the emotions.

01:20:18.000 You gotta go both.

01:20:19.000 Like, you can't just do... I know plenty of people who've done a ton of emotional work but are flighty as hell and have dumb ideas in their head, right? 0.97

01:20:26.000 And then I know plenty of people who've thought their way as far as they can but won't feel anything, right?

01:20:32.000 Both are important.

01:20:33.000 Both are relevant.

01:20:34.000 And you can't just do one.

01:20:36.000 You know, like if you want to be balanced and kind of whole, you kind of have to, you have to feel and think.

01:20:41.000 That's why we got different parts of our brain.

01:20:44.000 It's not just one or the other.

01:20:45.000 When you like come up on a situation that makes you want to cry or that makes you want to like, what, at what point do you stop yourself from crying?

01:20:51.000 And at what point do you let yourself cry?

01:20:52.000 I try not to stop myself.

01:20:55.000 I mean, unless like it's inappropriate or weird or I'm at like some, I don't know.

01:20:59.000 You don't want to cry right now?

01:21:01.000 If you guys gave me a reason to cry, I would cry.

01:21:03.000 I'm not sure what it would be.

01:21:06.000 I'm sure we could talk about something.

01:21:09.000 I don't really worry about that anymore.

01:21:13.000 I've never been worried about, well, what does someone else think about my emotion?

01:21:19.000 That's never been a problem for me.

01:21:21.000 For me, it's been feeling the emotion.

01:21:26.000 I didn't have that bad of a childhood in certain ways, like no one sexually abused me or beat me or thank god, none of that.

01:21:31.000 I just had narcissistic parents who didn't care about me and I was essentially abandoned as a kid.

01:21:37.000 You know, not literally, like I had food and shelter, but like emotionally, there was no one there for me.

01:21:43.000 It's called relational trauma.

01:21:45.000 That sort of a relational trauma is actually, it's hard to understand because there's not a great narrative around it and most people don't understand.

01:21:52.000 The closest person I've ever heard who understood was someone who actually helped, they were in Romania after the fall of the wall and there were all these abandoned kids and they worked in orphanage there and they would tell me like, The Romanian orphanages are crazy.

01:22:08.000 Right, so my life wasn't that bad.

01:22:10.000 But imagine like someone like that who had parents and were there but still kind of ignored you.

01:22:16.000 So it's like on the scale of relational trauma they're like a 10 and I'm like a 5, right?

01:22:20.000 But it's still anywhere on that scale is not good.

01:22:23.000 And so like, just accepting that, right?

01:22:27.000 That, okay, I wasn't sexually abused or physically abused.

01:22:30.000 I've never been to war.

01:22:31.000 You know, no one's raped me.

01:22:33.000 Most people think of trauma as some horrible physical event, and that is trauma.

01:22:37.000 But that's not the only type of trauma, and that's not the only way to have deep emotional impacts from things, you know?

01:22:43.000 And it's not like... Dude, some people will do this and like all kinds of repressed trauma will come up.

01:22:48.000 Like, oh my dad or my stepdad raped me and I pushed... That happens all the time.

01:22:52.000 None of that happened with me. 0.82

01:22:53.000 Like, I knew exactly what happened to me.

01:22:56.000 It was just like I had never felt any of my grief from my mom never spending any time with me.

01:23:02.000 Like, I just pushed that away.

01:23:04.000 Because when you're four, it's overwhelming.

01:23:06.000 You know, but now when you're 40 and you're taking MDMA and you're laying on this sofa and you know New York wherever and like it comes up and it's like oh and you like safe and whatever you can feel it then you feel it you know but then it's like it's like you're free now.

01:23:21.000 Does this impact how you parent I'm assuming?

01:23:23.000 Do you make different choices?

01:23:29.000 In fact, if you want me to start crying, if I think about what I was like as a parent seven years ago with my first bishop, my oldest, who just turned eight, versus now.

01:23:39.000 On the scale of parents, I was a very good parent compared to most parents seven years ago.

01:23:44.000 I am a fundamentally different parent now.

01:23:47.000 I'm a hundred times better.

01:23:49.000 I'm so much more present, more emotionally connected, more attached.

01:23:55.000 I meet my children's needs so much better.

01:23:59.000 You got them learning like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

01:24:01.000 He does go to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, actually.

01:24:03.000 My eight-year-old does, yeah.

01:24:04.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:24:05.000 That's a good idea.

01:24:07.000 But, okay, funny you bring that up, when he was four, I pushed him into it,

01:24:11.000 because I'm big into that, I really want, and he liked it, but he kind of didn't really want it,

01:24:17.000 and I was pushing a little too hard, and I just was wise enough to realize,

01:24:21.000 all right, I'm pushing him, I'm not gonna do that.

01:24:23.000 And so then I backed off and he quit.

01:24:26.000 Okay, I was disappointed, which is silly, because it's his life, not mine.

01:24:31.000 And I stopped.

01:24:32.000 I let go of all that.

01:24:33.000 And then two years, three years later, he's like, Dad, I want to start going again.

01:24:37.000 You know what kids need for this stuff?

01:24:39.000 They need to have other kids around them. 1.00

01:24:42.000 Yeah.

01:24:42.000 So the issue is when you bring your kids, say like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and it's a bunch of adults.

01:24:46.000 Yeah.

01:24:47.000 And he went to kids classes.

01:24:48.000 So, all right, well, typically what I find... I think I was just pushing him.

01:24:53.000 Like, he was... Pushing him too hard?

01:24:54.000 Yeah, he didn't want me looming over him.

01:24:57.000 Right.

01:24:58.000 You know?

01:24:58.000 He wanted to hang out with their friends.

01:25:00.000 That's kind of the point I was getting to.

01:25:01.000 Right.

01:25:01.000 So, like, I've had friends who, one example is skateboarding.

01:25:05.000 A friend of mine said they wanted to skate, got a skateboard, and then eventually didn't want to do it anymore, but their parents were like, you have to.

01:25:14.000 We bought you a board, you're using it!

01:25:16.000 But then, when you have all of these other skateboarders all cheering you on, and then you have your own group of friends, all of a sudden you're like, this is my community, you get into it.

01:25:25.000 And so, you know.

01:25:26.000 Yeah, but there's also, I think, an intrinsic versus extrinsic, right?

01:25:31.000 And so, my son's pretty independent, and thankfully.

01:25:35.000 And I was pushing him, and I think he was naturally rebelling against that, and so when I stopped pushing and let go, then he was able to find it on his own, and his own desire for it, as opposed to mine.

01:25:47.000 So pushing a little is probably a good thing, just so he knows... Introducing is a good thing.

01:25:52.000 Pushing is different.

01:25:54.000 And you also should have him play Magic the Gathering.

01:25:57.000 100%.

01:25:58.000 Well, make him a good poker player.

01:25:59.000 Exactly.

01:26:00.000 And mathematician.

01:26:01.000 So a lot of people don't understand Magic the Gathering is chess and poker combined, and a lot of the top Magic players were actually top poker players.

01:26:09.000 There's a famous quote from one of these guys, and they said, you play Magic the Gathering and poker, is being a top poker player harder?

01:26:16.000 And he's like, one game has 13,000 cards you're trying to guess.

01:26:22.000 Yeah, right.

01:26:22.000 to. He's like, so, you know, poker is a bit easier for us.

01:26:26.000 But it was a good point. And I remember when I was younger trying to explain it to people. People often hear Magic the

01:26:34.000 Gathering and they assume you dress like a wizard. And then you're like, well. Like Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, it's

01:26:43.000 like you go to a local game shop and there's like, you know, I would be skateboarding and then afterwards I'd go to the

01:26:44.000 game shop There'd be comics, there'd be art.

01:26:45.000 We'd play Marvel vs. Capcom.

01:26:47.000 And then people would play, you know, Magic or whatever.

01:26:50.000 And none of these people were into D&D.

01:26:51.000 Not a single one played D&D.

01:26:53.000 It was just like... Really?

01:26:54.000 There's no overlap between those two communities?

01:26:55.000 There probably is.

01:26:57.000 I assume there is.

01:26:58.000 Oh yeah, right.

01:26:58.000 But at my comic shop, there was none.

01:26:59.000 There was no D&D.

01:27:00.000 Oh, wow.

01:27:01.000 It was comic books.

01:27:01.000 It was Marvel.

01:27:02.000 It was, you know...

01:27:04.000 Playing arcades, it was skateboarding.

01:27:06.000 It was just like another thing where we were tired, where bodies were racked.

01:27:09.000 I just started out a backside tailslide.

01:27:11.000 It's like, let's just draft or something so we can sit down and still do something.

01:27:16.000 And so then you're getting strategic development after your physical development.

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:21.000 No, it makes sense.

01:27:23.000 Yeah.

01:27:23.000 Now the same company owns Dungeons and Dragons and Magic.

01:27:26.000 The same company owns them both.

01:27:28.000 So you might start to see overlap, but it's like completely different.

01:27:31.000 One's like, do you ever play D&D?

01:27:32.000 It's like an acting exercise, basically.

01:27:34.000 And the other game is like a math exercise.

01:27:36.000 We really got to do that modern political war game thing that the Clintons, or was it Clinton?

01:27:41.000 It was like Podesta did.

01:27:42.000 Do you hear about that?

01:27:44.000 In 2020, they basically played D&D, but it was like modern politics.

01:27:47.000 And then, like, one of the Democrats was like, if Trump wins, we're seceding from the Union, and, like, they would roll die to see what would happen.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:55.000 That would be funny.

01:27:56.000 We really gotta do that.

01:27:56.000 We could film it.

01:27:57.000 It'd be hilarious.

01:27:58.000 That would be funny.

01:27:58.000 You get a bunch of people in who are super into that, that could be fun.

01:28:01.000 Look, Ian, you're Hillary.

01:28:02.000 You're running in 2024.

01:28:04.000 Alright.

01:28:04.000 Let's go!

01:28:05.000 What do you say?

01:28:07.000 Roll to see if you get the votes.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, roll to see if people actually like you this time.

01:28:12.000 No, no, no, you don't, well, you do your base stats, but like, I'm pretty sure her charisma would be like minus, yeah, it'd be like a minus one. 0.99

01:28:21.000 Oh, Hillary. 1.00

01:28:21.000 It goes down. 1.00

01:28:22.000 It wasn't always that bad.

01:28:23.000 What would Trump have in terms of like, you know, charisma?

01:28:27.000 15 or 16.

01:28:27.000 Really high.

01:28:28.000 Very high.

01:28:28.000 Yeah, very high.

01:28:29.000 But his intelligence would be lower.

01:28:33.000 He's got more charisma than intelligence.

01:28:34.000 Intelligence would be high too.

01:28:36.000 What's like a negative?

01:28:37.000 Wisdom.

01:28:37.000 He'd have low wisdom.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, a negative charisma.

01:28:39.000 Because he pisses people off with his statements.

01:28:42.000 We gotta do this.

01:28:43.000 They're like, why did he say that?

01:28:44.000 He's like, I don't even know why I said that.

01:28:47.000 Because of my low wisdom.

01:28:48.000 You're right, he isn't.

01:28:48.000 He is very intelligent.

01:28:51.000 He's a calculating guy.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, this would be hilarious.

01:28:54.000 Map out.

01:28:55.000 We should literally do it.

01:28:56.000 We should do it live.

01:28:59.000 War game out what 2024 would look like based on modern politics today to see what it would be.

01:29:03.000 I love this.

01:29:04.000 This is great.

01:29:05.000 There's all kinds of wild cards too.

01:29:07.000 We would do a primary and then you gotta roll to see if you get the votes or something.

01:29:11.000 I'm liking Rhonda Santos more and more.

01:29:12.000 Hey, did you guys see Carrie Lake won?

01:29:17.000 She won every county.

01:29:18.000 She was great.

01:29:19.000 I was in favor of her when she called out that CNN woman. 1.00

01:29:22.000 She's obviously amazing.

01:29:24.000 She's accessible, at least to me so far.

01:29:26.000 I've been on the show, we interviewed her twice, and we talked about a local voting app that you could use.

01:29:30.000 where like you could set your slider for like, I wanna put 7% of my taxes towards this local thing, 4% towards this, and it'd be like a Tinder app kind of where you could, I could say like, okay, hey everyone, I wanna put a fountain on Main Street.

01:29:43.000 And then if people are going through the app, they see it, they swipe right, it goes into their little slide bar thing, and then they can allocate like 2% of their taxes to the thing.

01:29:51.000 And she loved the idea.

01:29:52.000 That's, I think, it's really like, things are becoming very real with the governors.

01:29:57.000 That's an example of technology that could be amazing.

01:30:00.000 That's very cool, yeah.

01:30:01.000 You into the convention of states?

01:30:03.000 I keep hearing it get tossed around.

01:30:04.000 I mean, I don't know, like, I don't, it wouldn't shock, there's almost nothing you could tell me about the future of America that would shock me now, like a complete chaotic civil war, a federalist, you know, kind of quasi-breakup but not really, I don't know, something.

01:30:21.000 Woke communist gulags?

01:30:23.000 Of course that wouldn't shock me.

01:30:25.000 They already have those in Australia.

01:30:26.000 Yeah.

01:30:27.000 I was saying yesterday that it seems like all the cultures on earth now have come together and they're all forcing each other on themselves. 0.86

01:30:34.000 And so that's this chaos. 0.92

01:30:35.000 It's not like an accident or like, oops, we fucked up. 0.90

01:30:38.000 It's like, no, this is like, this is what happens when you blend all the cultures. 0.94

01:30:41.000 He got Ian swearing.

01:30:42.000 Yeah, I'm back to my old self.

01:30:43.000 Nothing would make me happier than just like local rule for everyone.

01:30:47.000 You know, like, okay, you take care of yourself.

01:30:49.000 We'll take care of ourselves.

01:30:50.000 Let's just like, I got no problem.

01:30:53.000 You want to inject hormones into your kids and eat each other? 1.00

01:30:57.000 Okay, cool.

01:30:58.000 Go to New York.

01:30:58.000 That's why they do that.

01:30:59.000 Except they want rules over you.

01:31:01.000 Oh, of course.

01:31:01.000 Right.

01:31:02.000 No, I get that.

01:31:02.000 And we got to mediate the atmosphere and the rivers and the oceans.

01:31:05.000 Well, that's the control thing.

01:31:07.000 That's like, okay, if I can find a lever of control where you are responsible for something I want, I'm convinced.

01:31:16.000 I've been skeptical of climate stuff for a long time for two reasons. 0.87

01:31:20.000 One is because the people who are pushing it are always the same people who are pushing whatever authoritarian bullshit that comes up, right?

01:31:29.000 So it's never like, so someone I'm like, okay, well this person's really smart and they know their stuff. 0.63

01:31:33.000 It's always like, you know, Al Gore, right?

01:31:36.000 Who's like, it's that type.

01:31:38.000 But then the other thing is, it's like, hold on a minute.

01:31:41.000 You want to make me responsible for something that you get you can't really measure you can't attribute to me But it's gonna have to fundamentally alter my behavior and my output, but you get to decide what that is and No, that's not going to work.

01:31:59.000 Right?

01:31:59.000 And like, whenever someone's like, you know, trying to make other people responsible for something and it means they get to control them, that's the reddest of red flags.

01:32:07.000 Even if, like, yeah, I mean, you can look at the data.

01:32:10.000 It's gotten hotter in most parts of the world last couple of years or whatever, et cetera, et cetera.

01:32:14.000 Like, even if there's some truth to it.

01:32:17.000 The more tangible example would be like poisoning the waterway inadvertently upriver, like dumping chemicals in and then the other community that you're not related to.

01:32:24.000 That's measurable.

01:32:25.000 Like, you could be like, okay, you dumped DDT up here, all these fish died, like, okay, like, you can figure that out, you know?

01:32:33.000 Like, that's like, that's tort law can handle that, you know?

01:32:36.000 You are a lawyer after all, before you said... No, no, no.

01:32:41.000 I did not take the bar.

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01:33:22.000 It's a lot harder to read because YouTube crashed out on us again.

01:33:26.000 So I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and read.

01:33:28.000 I have to, like, lean forward.

01:33:32.000 All right.

01:33:32.000 Let's see.

01:33:33.000 Oh, actually we can't read them.

01:33:34.000 That's amazing.

01:33:36.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:36.000 We can read some.

01:33:37.000 Cade Schreiner.

01:33:39.000 First super chat ever.

01:33:40.000 I just wanted to say one thing.

01:33:42.000 Love y'all.

01:33:43.000 Guy Ian is the best though.

01:33:45.000 Well, hey, we're all equal.

01:33:47.000 Nah, you know, I'm just doing what I do.

01:33:49.000 Hey dude.

01:33:50.000 Ian's like, I am the best.

01:33:51.000 Thank you for noticing.

01:33:52.000 I'm the best at what I do.

01:33:55.000 It's a very diplomatic answer.

01:33:56.000 All right, Scott Wood says, thank you for the heads up on food shortages, gas shortages.

01:34:01.000 I got 70 gallons of gas on hand, never paid over $4 a gallon, freezer full of food.

01:34:06.000 What do you do when you stock up on gas?

01:34:09.000 Well, gas depreciates quickly.

01:34:10.000 He's got to cycle that stuff through.

01:34:12.000 Diesel lasts about a year.

01:34:13.000 Gas won't usually last more than three months or six months.

01:34:15.000 Because of evaporation?

01:34:16.000 No, no, because the way it's processed, like propane will last essentially, kerosene lasts forever effectively, diesel I think is about a year to 18 months, and I think gas has to turn over quick.

01:34:26.000 Oh, so you can cycle it without destroying it?

01:34:28.000 No, no, you've got to use it.

01:34:30.000 Like it won't last.

01:34:31.000 I think there might be additives you can put in, but I don't think they extend it beyond six months.

01:34:36.000 Raymond G Stanley jr.

01:34:37.000 Says Tim seeing death in real life is exactly why veterans are some of the biggest adversaries of war Once you see life drain from someone's eyes you get it.

01:34:44.000 Yep Yeah, when I saw that video today of the guy in the store, it just brought like memories back and feelings man, and I always I always say like I'm not like a war- I'm not like a soldier or anything, I didn't do any of that stuff, but I've been places where people have died and I've- I remember the first time I saw someone die and the feeling I got was something I had never experienced in 27 years of life.

01:35:08.000 Seeing it actually happen was just- it was like, I don't know, it felt like getting- having like, just water submerge my brain like it was a- like a- And then there's like this gut-wrenching feeling like someone was squeezing my heart.

01:35:23.000 And I watched them carry that body off the street.

01:35:25.000 It's crazy, man.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:27.000 And watching the stuff earlier today, I'm just, man, the crime that's skyrocketing, these woke Soros-backed DAs, Soros writes an op-ed saying he's doubling down on all of this.

01:35:37.000 We're watching people get slashed in the street.

01:35:40.000 There was a guy just in New York, I think it was today, he was going around, or the other day he was just punching people in the face.

01:35:47.000 It's just it's absolutely bonkers.

01:35:49.000 Violent crime is up all over the country.

01:35:51.000 And it's been on the rise since COVID probably before that.

01:35:55.000 And then you start seeing these stories like The shop owner who fires a shotgun at the dude with the rifle and it's like, man, this is not going in a good way.

01:36:05.000 And people are going to get a rude awakening when they like, there's so many people that think they want to live in like a zombie apocalypse horror movie and they think it'd be fun and exciting.

01:36:12.000 No.

01:36:13.000 And then they're sitting there shaking with more stress they've ever experienced in their lives.

01:36:17.000 And they're throwing up just because of the anxiety.

01:36:19.000 It's crazy days, man.

01:36:24.000 All right.

01:36:25.000 We'll grab some more Super Chats.

01:36:27.000 Alex Maggiore?

01:36:30.000 Magri?

01:36:31.000 I see the 4pm story becoming the new norm.

01:36:34.000 People are tired of the lawlessness, and it's going to result in vigilantism, frontier justice, and maybe mafia-like protection rackets.

01:36:41.000 Yes.

01:36:42.000 Yes.

01:36:44.000 Do you see what Brazil did?

01:36:45.000 They have a huge problem with guys on motorcycles robbing cars and they legalized like you can run over those motor and like there's all kinds of videos now coming out.

01:36:57.000 Just mowing people down with their cars.

01:37:00.000 Oh yeah!

01:37:02.000 Like people getting robbed and then a car just comes out of nowhere.

01:37:05.000 Runs right over the bike.

01:37:07.000 Kills people.

01:37:08.000 I mean, they're killing robbers, but... Right. 0.99

01:37:10.000 But the thing is, there's a point where it's someone robbing you for luxury.

01:37:15.000 That they just, they want.

01:37:17.000 Then there's also, like you mentioned, with Austin, with the winterpocalypse, people just have no, they're desperate.

01:37:24.000 And they're like, you or me.

01:37:26.000 But then you're gonna see people, like, when it's about luxuries, An armed population, an armed society is a polite society.

01:37:33.000 If there's some guy who's going to rob a store because he wants to come up on something, and he knows everyone's armed, he's going to think twice.

01:37:38.000 Somebody who's starving, they don't care.

01:37:40.000 No, you're right.

01:37:41.000 It's like I was telling the story where I saw a fox walking into our backyard.

01:37:44.000 It's like a yard, it's like a big open acreage of the forest. 0.98

01:37:47.000 But Bucko, Bocus, our cat, was sitting there like a moron, just in a loaf, and looks over at the fox that's slowly creeping up to him. 0.96

01:37:55.000 The fox was gaunt-looking. 0.98

01:37:57.000 I was surprised the fox came onto the property because we have dogs and humans, but this fox looked desperate, didn't care.

01:38:06.000 So I actually had to stop in the middle of recording, run out and start yelling, and the fox just looked at me and didn't care.

01:38:11.000 He was that hungry?

01:38:13.000 It looked gaunt.

01:38:15.000 So I had to just jump off and then run up, and then it ran off. 1.00

01:38:18.000 And then I had to yell at my cat, like, what are you doing, you moron? 1.00

01:38:20.000 He's gonna eat you! 1.00

01:38:21.000 He's still sitting this whole time!

01:38:22.000 The cat is just like, what?

01:38:23.000 Yeah, and he just looks at me and just looks back and then doesn't move.

01:38:26.000 He's too comfortable here.

01:38:27.000 But then I went over and I get back inside. 1.00

01:38:30.000 You moron. 1.00

01:38:32.000 We let him run around and do cat stuff because for the most part they're fine. 1.00

01:38:34.000 I know you can you run the risk of like coyotes and stuff like that, but...

01:38:38.000 We had a raccoon come on the property because they were getting desperate.

01:38:41.000 They were getting hungry or something.

01:38:43.000 And then when they're desperate, they don't care about the threats.

01:38:45.000 So time to like not wear jewelry out in public, not hold your phone up in front of you on the street in New York if you're walking down the street.

01:38:52.000 Or just not be in New York.

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:55.000 Alright, Tim Wolak says, been managing money for four years, for ultra-wealthy.

01:39:00.000 Trusts are not the best way to shelter money.

01:39:03.000 Irrevocable trusts give the money to someone else.

01:39:06.000 You can't be the giver and receiver of cash.

01:39:08.000 What does that mean?

01:39:09.000 Well, he's right.

01:39:10.000 That's one type of trust is irrevocable.

01:39:12.000 Right.

01:39:12.000 So meaning like if I set up a trust for my son that's irrevocable, so it's gone to him fully, it just makes it more protected.

01:39:20.000 So I can't be like there's because sometimes you can pierce the veil with trust and like, you know, like in a lawsuit, depending on which trust it is irrevocables.

01:39:28.000 You can't can't do that.

01:39:30.000 He's someone else's money.

01:39:31.000 Yeah, it's not someone else's money.

01:39:33.000 Totally.

01:39:33.000 Right.

01:39:33.000 But you gotta pay taxes on it?

01:39:35.000 Well, you always have to.

01:39:36.000 There's nothing you're doing where you're not paying taxes.

01:39:38.000 No, but I mean, like, let's say you make a hundred grand.

01:39:42.000 I pay taxes.

01:39:43.000 Then it goes into the trust.

01:39:45.000 I don't think the other person has to pay taxes.

01:39:46.000 Once they take the money out, they might have to, right?

01:39:49.000 Uh, no.

01:39:50.000 I'm not sure.

01:39:51.000 I don't think so.

01:39:53.000 It depends.

01:39:54.000 Well, so it depends.

01:39:54.000 It depends how it's set up because I know like for kids, I think they're each allowed to get, there's a number, five or ten million from their parents, maybe five million apiece from parents that's tax-free and then after that it's like death tax where it's like 80% or whatever crazy amount and so like I think that if it's somebody else then I'm not sure how that would work.

01:40:17.000 All right.

01:40:19.000 Jordan Z says, signed up for Timcast a few days ago.

01:40:21.000 Also, Tim, in response to the line from Fast and Furious, it was from Fast Five when they were in Brazil on that fort.

01:40:27.000 Ah!

01:40:28.000 Fast Five! 1.00

01:40:29.000 You're slipping.

01:40:30.000 Fact checks are live here.

01:40:32.000 The Fast and the Furious cinematic universe is the best cinematic universe.

01:40:36.000 This is the one where there's like ten of them?

01:40:38.000 Hold on, the best for what?

01:40:40.000 I'm just saying, like, race cars?

01:40:42.000 I mean, how many cinematic universes are there, too?

01:40:44.000 Marvel?

01:40:45.000 Star Wars?

01:40:46.000 Lord of the Rings?

01:40:47.000 There's dozens.

01:40:49.000 This is the Vin Diesel one, right?

01:40:50.000 Vin Diesel where there's like... No, I'm completely opposed to this.

01:40:54.000 We talk about this on Pop Culture all the time.

01:40:56.000 It's the best.

01:40:57.000 No, it's too many.

01:40:58.000 Just stop.

01:40:58.000 I mean, it's just like explosion, pretend fake dialogue.

01:41:02.000 They went into space!

01:41:03.000 Why would they go to space?

01:41:05.000 Because they had to go to space.

01:41:06.000 What do you mean?

01:41:06.000 It was amazing.

01:41:07.000 Ludicrous was in outer space.

01:41:10.000 In a Fiero.

01:41:12.000 I'm okay with this being like a gender thing. 0.99

01:41:14.000 Like, I maybe just don't get this, but like, this seems stupid to me. 0.75

01:41:18.000 That's why it's awesome. 1.00

01:41:19.000 It is stupid. 0.99

01:41:19.000 It was about race cars and like races for the first couple. 0.99

01:41:22.000 Yeah.

01:41:23.000 And then it became about an action adventure movie where they were like, we've got to do something.

01:41:26.000 We better keep writing the script.

01:41:28.000 No, it's on purpose.

01:41:29.000 Like they did the movie Hobbs and Shaw, and there's like Idris Elba's got superpowers.

01:41:35.000 And I'm like, yes!

01:41:37.000 Then the next movie, they go to outer space.

01:41:38.000 And I'm like, even better.

01:41:39.000 I hope, I swear, please, if you're listening to me, please, studio, the next movie, maybe the next one, because you're already working on it.

01:41:46.000 The one after that, I want there to be like a quantum explosion that gives them all superpowers.

01:41:52.000 Vin Diesel starts floating.

01:41:54.000 No, no, no.

01:41:55.000 They should be woke epidemiologists.

01:41:57.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:41:58.000 They shrink one guy down, goes into the body of the other guy, and has to fight dudes and organs.

01:42:03.000 Like that blue cartoon character that did that?

01:42:05.000 That movie's already been made.

01:42:07.000 No, I oppose this vehemently.

01:42:09.000 Ten is too many, Tim.

01:42:10.000 I want them to get superpowers. 0.62

01:42:12.000 And then like, you know, ludicrous characters.

01:42:14.000 And then they fight the Marvel characters.

01:42:16.000 No, no, no, they gotta make their own villains, you know?

01:42:19.000 And then, but then, it's just like all of a sudden you've got this cinematic universe, and then Jason Statham can teleport for some reason, and you know, The Rock can like, he gets super strength because he's The Rock.

01:42:31.000 Vin Diesel can fly.

01:42:32.000 That's organic superheroes.

01:42:34.000 That's how they're made, you know?

01:42:35.000 You have to talk to Brett about this.

01:42:37.000 When I told Brett, I was like opposed to this.

01:42:38.000 He was like, you don't understand.

01:42:39.000 They make so much money.

01:42:41.000 Like they can keep going forever.

01:42:43.000 But why?

01:42:43.000 Why would we do this?

01:42:44.000 Because people pay.

01:42:45.000 And we did talk about creating culture and making new things as opposed to rehashing the same crappy Marvel characters.

01:42:51.000 So maybe that's what this universe has become or is becoming.

01:42:53.000 It needs to. 0.59

01:42:53.000 It's new crappy instead of old crappy. 0.59

01:42:55.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:42:56.000 I agree, it sucks. 0.93

01:42:57.000 But maybe change the name from Fast and Furious, because I still think of Cars and the first guy. 0.88

01:43:02.000 I mean, they call it Hobbs and Shaw.

01:43:03.000 It was Fast and Furious... Presents.

01:43:05.000 Presents Hobbs and Shaw.

01:43:07.000 No, Superpowers.

01:43:08.000 They went to outer space.

01:43:09.000 They should eventually, like, they're in the multiverse.

01:43:12.000 Then you put Spider-Man in there for some reason, like you were saying.

01:43:15.000 Is it a Disney film?

01:43:16.000 Isn't that Stargate?

01:43:17.000 Stargate.

01:43:17.000 I was just watching a clip from that earlier.

01:43:19.000 James Spader.

01:43:20.000 We should do it.

01:43:21.000 We should totally do a bit somehow where it's like Fast and the Furious 57 and it's like Spider-Man's in it.

01:43:27.000 They go through a Stargate into the multiverse.

01:43:29.000 In a 57 Chevy.

01:43:31.000 To fight Klingons in a Chevy. 0.99

01:43:34.000 This is my nightmare.

01:43:35.000 I would pay to see that movie.

01:43:38.000 It was totally serious.

01:43:40.000 I don't think I would take money to watch it.

01:43:43.000 Do you watch movies much these days?

01:43:45.000 No.

01:43:46.000 I took my kids to see Top Gun 2 and they loved that.

01:43:48.000 What would you give it on a scale from one to ten?

01:43:52.000 Compared to what?

01:43:53.000 Like what's the scale?

01:43:54.000 The best movie of all time?

01:43:56.000 I don't know.

01:43:56.000 Or what did you expect of it?

01:43:57.000 First Indiana Jones maybe?

01:43:59.000 It's much better than I thought it would be.

01:44:01.000 I didn't think it was that good, but compared to like other movies, yeah, like recent movies, last few years, yeah, it's fantastic.

01:44:10.000 It was impressive that he flew the plane himself, Tom Cruise.

01:44:13.000 From what I've heard, he was actually piloting He does do a lot of his own stunts and he has his pilot's license.

01:44:18.000 Oh wait, is that not confirmed?

01:44:19.000 I kind of doubt it, I don't know.

01:44:21.000 I thought that he was piloting it.

01:44:22.000 I mean, certain scenes I don't feel like they were really... I'm not sure, hold on, because they're flying the F-14s, the two-seaters, they're shooting him from the front, so how the hell is he flying the plane then?

01:44:31.000 I don't think.

01:44:32.000 I don't know.

01:44:33.000 I heard that.

01:44:34.000 Maybe it wasn't true.

01:44:34.000 I don't know.

01:44:35.000 I should dig into it.

01:44:36.000 Alright, let's read some more.

01:44:37.000 We got Jay Chacha.

01:44:38.000 Says the female who got stomped at the T-Mobile in Arizona with no one to help her.

01:44:43.000 Horrible security cam.

01:44:44.000 Oh yeah, that's right.

01:44:46.000 With her no help.

01:44:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:47.000 Beat the shit out of her, yeah. 1.00

01:44:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:48.000 walks in and then he goes, could you and then wham and then just starts wailing on 1.00

01:44:52.000 her. This is why that dude in Vegas like, nope, not gonna try and wait to find out.

01:44:57.000 And I bet if it goes to trial he's gonna be like, the lawyer is gonna be like,

01:45:00.000 here's 500 videos showing exactly what happens to these people. He watched these

01:45:04.000 Twitter feeds all day. And stop Asian hate.

01:45:06.000 Yeah, totally!

01:45:07.000 Your Honor, there were people marching in every major city talking about how Asian people were being targeted.

01:45:12.000 This guy in a ski mask jumps the counter?

01:45:16.000 Not gonna wait to find out.

01:45:18.000 Not gonna wait to be the statistic, huh?

01:45:21.000 All right.

01:45:23.000 McChilla says wealthy philanthropists should spend every last cent of their fortune and effort to get a convention of states repeal the 19th.

01:45:30.000 Ha ha ha ha ha.

01:45:32.000 The 19th.

01:45:33.000 I'd say the 17th.

01:45:33.000 Yeah, what do you think about the 19th?

01:45:36.000 Are you one of those?

01:45:39.000 I don't know.

01:45:39.000 What do you mean?

01:45:40.000 I mean, that's like a long conversation.

01:45:43.000 I don't know.

01:45:45.000 The 19th amendment granted women the right to vote. 0.76

01:45:47.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 Okay.

01:45:48.000 The thing is, if I could give up my right to vote to a husband who I trusted and thought would make better decisions and it would guarantee something better, I would be open to it, right?

01:45:59.000 I don't think that Feminism was necessarily the best thing for this country, especially third wave feminism. 1.00

01:46:08.000 But generally, no offense to all of you, but if you're willing to make a 10th Fast and Furious, like, no, I have to vote for myself.

01:46:15.000 I can't trust your judgment.

01:46:16.000 Never trust someone else to do it for you.

01:46:18.000 You're wrong.

01:46:18.000 You just exemplified exactly why.

01:46:20.000 We have to repeal the 19th so we can get a 10th.

01:46:23.000 I think there are 10.

01:46:24.000 There were 10.

01:46:24.000 So we'll do get out over the 11th.

01:46:27.000 Uh, confirmed.

01:46:28.000 Top.

01:46:28.000 Tom Cruise did.

01:46:29.000 They did like a bootcamp, a three month Navy approved bootcamp training course for him and his co-stars to learn to fly.

01:46:35.000 I guess they were flying.

01:46:37.000 Huh?

01:46:37.000 All right.

01:46:38.000 There you go.

01:46:38.000 He's had his pilot's license since 1994.

01:46:40.000 That's impressive to me.

01:46:41.000 I thought you were going to confirm how many Fast and the Furious movies.

01:46:43.000 Well, dude, listen, I mean, we all used to make fun of Tom Cruise and now it's like, Oh, it turns out he was totally right about antidepressants.

01:46:49.000 Oh man.

01:46:49.000 Did you see that clip?

01:46:50.000 Now it's recirculating where he was talking to Matt Lauer and he was like, dude, the psychiatric industry is for pro- I don't know if he was saying it was for profit, but he was showing like this.

01:46:57.000 And that was incredible.

01:46:58.000 I remember how they made him look crazy when he was on there.

01:47:01.000 Oh, he's a Scientologist. 0.99

01:47:02.000 He's crazy. 0.77

01:47:03.000 He thinks you can heal yourself. 0.96

01:47:04.000 Scientologists are crazy about a lot of things.

01:47:06.000 They're just right about that.

01:47:08.000 That was fascinating.

01:47:09.000 Yeah.

01:47:10.000 All right.

01:47:10.000 Kyler Shebb says, do you think New Yorkers will start eating each other or the rats first?

01:47:15.000 Rats?

01:47:17.000 Well, probably it'll all happen at once.

01:47:18.000 I don't know, man. 0.55

01:47:19.000 I'd rather eat a person than a rat.

01:47:22.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:47:23.000 If those are the options, and it's like, okay, well, I'd rather choose neither, but... Plus, like, where's the major rat hunting ground?

01:47:31.000 The subway?

01:47:32.000 And you have to go down there, and do you know what's going to be the subway at the point that we're considering eating humans?

01:47:36.000 If you see rats eating a body, a human body, would you eat the human body or the rats?

01:47:41.000 But they're gonna run as soon as you approach the body.

01:47:43.000 Or attack, yeah.

01:47:44.000 If you can find a piece that they haven't been nibbling on, I'm with you.

01:47:47.000 Scavenging.

01:47:50.000 It's a strange either-or game.

01:47:51.000 I know.

01:47:52.000 Right?

01:47:52.000 Friday night.

01:47:53.000 How about lambs?

01:47:54.000 Can we eat those instead?

01:47:56.000 Do you guys slaughter on the farm?

01:48:00.000 All right, Sparky says, real MDMA is awesome, mostly fake stuff out there.

01:48:04.000 Really?

01:48:05.000 Yes, he's right.

01:48:06.000 Yeah, a lot of times they'll call it ecstasy.

01:48:08.000 Yeah, like if you do it in a club, it's probably non-MDMA.

01:48:10.000 It's cut with a lot of things.

01:48:12.000 Like I go to guides who get very, very good stuff.

01:48:14.000 And it's methamphetamines.

01:48:15.000 It's methylenedioxymethamphetamine is what that stands for.

01:48:18.000 I have not met a lot of people who know the chemical signature name for it.

01:48:22.000 Methamphetamine.

01:48:22.000 Yeah.

01:48:23.000 All right, Mike Gibson says, I drive for a food warehouse that supplies groceries to major distribution centers.

01:48:29.000 They are jammed full.

01:48:31.000 I think U.S.

01:48:31.000 food shortages are going to be inconveniences, not the zombie apocalypse.

01:48:37.000 I think he's right this fall.

01:48:39.000 We had a bumper week harvest in North Dakota and some other places.

01:48:43.000 I was worried this winter was going to be bad.

01:48:47.000 But no doubt, they've already happened worldwide.

01:48:51.000 Sri Lanka, Ecuador, Ghana.

01:48:56.000 So they're coming.

01:48:58.000 They're already here and there's going to be a lot more.

01:48:59.000 The only question is how bad does it get in America?

01:49:04.000 He's right short term.

01:49:07.000 All right.

01:49:10.000 ZenobiaX says, y'all mention transhumanism often enough.

01:49:13.000 I have to ask if any of you can give a definition for it that doesn't include people with tubes in their ears, prosthetics, or pacemakers.

01:49:23.000 Transhumanism, that's not really the definition of it.

01:49:26.000 That's all stuff you can get now, like old people have. 1.00

01:49:29.000 But that's what their point is.

01:49:30.000 Their point is that transhumanism is here.

01:49:32.000 It's kind of a vague term because you could say that because we have a phone that gets us internet we have... People are cyber housing.

01:49:37.000 But I think like a, you know, like the neural net would be an idea of a piece of transhumanist technology.

01:49:44.000 I think transhumanism is... Look, we're going to be neural linked and we're going to be talking about how transhumanism is coming.

01:49:51.000 Like, their point is excellent.

01:49:53.000 People have pacemakers already.

01:49:54.000 People have insulin pumps.

01:49:56.000 Like, humans are cyborgs already.

01:49:57.000 I always thought transhumanism was really ultimately the goal was to be uploaded into the digital sphere.

01:50:03.000 Yeah, Ray Kurzweil talks about the singularity and downloading.

01:50:06.000 Yeah, and EMs and all that stuff.

01:50:07.000 Emulations and all that, right?

01:50:09.000 That's one form of it.

01:50:10.000 Yeah, it's a vague term, transhumanism.

01:50:12.000 It just means that we've become more than homo sapien, that we're evolving to another species.

01:50:16.000 And we're probably going to evolve to multiple species at once that branch out.

01:50:20.000 Robot people who live in the universe.

01:50:22.000 And then one of them will try and kill all the other ones because humans have been excessively racist through the history of the culture.

01:50:28.000 Do you play video games at all?

01:50:29.000 Some of them, yeah.

01:50:30.000 Have you played The New Horizon for Ben West?

01:50:32.000 No, no.

01:50:33.000 I played video games when I was a little kid, so we played Mario Kart and stuff.

01:50:36.000 Did you play it yet?

01:50:37.000 I haven't played Horizon.

01:50:38.000 So, uh, spoiler alert.

01:50:40.000 I mean, the game's been out for a while now, but the ending is basically, you know, the original story is like humanity gets wiped out by self-replicating robots.

01:50:48.000 Then there's the Zero Dawn project, which once all the biomass is destroyed, these machines underground kick on at Humans Built to start recreating and re-terraforming the planet.

01:50:58.000 And then in this new, the second game, there's humans, another operation to save humanity was the Zenith Project, I think it was called Zenith, and they escape Earth.

01:51:08.000 So these people are super advanced, immortal, can float, and they have advanced technology, and they come back to Earth.

01:51:14.000 And then it turns out they were actually fleeing from, they uploaded their consciousness replicating themselves and then freaked out when they saw what it was and imprisoned it, enraging the multi-consciousness of all of their minds, which escapes and then seeks to destroy them.

01:51:29.000 So, anyway.

01:51:30.000 That's funny.

01:51:31.000 Tim, you didn't ask me if I play Horizon.

01:51:32.000 I don't understand.

01:51:33.000 I looked around and said, do you guys play it?

01:51:35.000 Have you played Horizon?

01:51:36.000 Absolutely not.

01:51:37.000 Sorry.

01:51:37.000 What's your favorite game?

01:51:39.000 Well, the thing is, I have an older brother, so I spent a lot of time sitting next to someone playing video games and who was like, shut up, you can't play, stop.

01:51:48.000 But we did a lot of Assassin's Creed when I was younger.

01:51:51.000 I just figured because you didn't watch Fast and Furious, you probably just had bad taste in games.

01:51:56.000 I have awful taste in games.

01:51:57.000 In fact, nothing.

01:51:59.000 Ken Long says, love the Tim Castellar podcast.

01:52:01.000 I relate to everyone on the show, including guests.

01:52:04.000 You guys take me back to my 70s.

01:52:07.000 Thank you.

01:52:07.000 Yes.

01:52:08.000 Well, all right.

01:52:09.000 The 70s or his 70s?

01:52:11.000 To my 70s.

01:52:11.000 Okay.

01:52:12.000 All right.

01:52:15.000 All right, Ugly Swan says, to my dearest Ian, we should chat sometime.

01:52:18.000 I love your hungry mind.

01:52:20.000 I think EU theory is showing itself, showing itself culture.

01:52:25.000 The eagle eats the serpent, Jupiter strikes Mars.

01:52:31.000 Interesting.

01:52:31.000 Some wild, wild information right there.

01:52:35.000 DrDoctor says, Tim just referenced SSBSTS.

01:52:38.000 Dude is definitely a CKY fan.

01:52:39.000 Well, of course.

01:52:40.000 If you know how old I am, you know that I watched CKY when I was... What's that?

01:52:45.000 It was Bam Margera.

01:52:46.000 The CKY was the band.

01:52:48.000 Then he made a video where it was them engaging in shenanigans.

01:52:51.000 Some skateboarding, some pushing people in shopping carts.

01:52:53.000 Before Jackass?

01:52:54.000 Yeah.

01:52:55.000 Oh.

01:52:55.000 And then they made CKY2K, which was a huge viral.

01:52:59.000 All the skate shops had it.

01:53:01.000 All right.

01:53:04.000 TxPakRat says, TexasPakRat, prepping isn't just about storing food and having guns.

01:53:09.000 Get handwood working tools, a metal lathe, and a mill.

01:53:14.000 If a part breaks on my gun, I can make it.

01:53:16.000 No store needed.

01:53:18.000 He's not wrong. 0.53

01:53:20.000 I didn't talk about everything, but he's not... Community.

01:53:22.000 I like how you emphasize how prepping also means prepare your community.

01:53:26.000 That's probably the most important part is community.

01:53:28.000 It definitely is. 0.97

01:53:30.000 Alright, UglySwan says, Damn, you brought up Magic the Gathering. 0.97

01:53:32.000 I have to comment. 0.94

01:53:33.000 Ian, how do you play Magic?

01:53:34.000 Do you thirst for war?

01:53:36.000 I brought my Bruna back out and I'm loving it.

01:53:39.000 I'm pretty utilitarian. 0.99

01:53:40.000 If I'm playing against someone that has a deck that's going to go infinite, I'll kill them as fast as possible. 0.99

01:53:44.000 He's talking about me. 0.98

01:53:46.000 If Tim plays blue, he's done.

01:53:48.000 But I like trickery, and I like to watch what they do and then respond to the enemy, usually.

01:53:52.000 All my decks are blue.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, Tim plays pretty nasty decks.

01:53:55.000 This is also pay to win.

01:53:57.000 I know, that's what I was thinking about.

01:53:59.000 Decks that are trained to win on turn four, you have no choice.

01:54:02.000 You have to go after them first.

01:54:02.000 They could just be making up words right now.

01:54:04.000 We would never know.

01:54:05.000 Oh, we should play magic.

01:54:05.000 It's great.

01:54:06.000 Right now?

01:54:06.000 Let's do it.

01:54:07.000 Let's bust them out.

01:54:08.000 Yeah, we bought a whole bunch of these.

01:54:09.000 I've never played.

01:54:10.000 It's great.

01:54:11.000 I know what it is.

01:54:13.000 I understand the game.

01:54:14.000 I just don't know anything about it.

01:54:16.000 I love burn, you know, if you can sustain it.

01:54:19.000 Yeah, we did a draft, and I put together an aggro deck.

01:54:23.000 And it fell victim to all of the... Ian basically had a midrange.

01:54:28.000 Well, I couldn't get enough damage in before he got his, you know, creatures out, and then that's how you lose with aggro.

01:54:34.000 He got me.

01:54:34.000 I like drawing cards a lot, too.

01:54:36.000 Cards, like decks where I do like 35 things in one turn.

01:54:39.000 I love that stuff.

01:54:40.000 All right, GU Knight says, Tim, what are your thoughts on adding a message board to the site?

01:54:44.000 It would be a good place for members to talk about news, current events, and link sources, a good way to check the pulse of your fans.

01:54:50.000 Yes!

01:54:51.000 So the one thing is, we've been trying to develop a new commenting system, and we're trying to do it in a way that promotes other social platforms.

01:55:01.000 Because like, I don't want to say too much, but how Facebook has the, you know, most websites that have comments will just like put a Facebook comment thing on it, you can embed it.

01:55:07.000 So we want to do something like that with a different platform.

01:55:10.000 We might just put back on the original comments.

01:55:15.000 And we're thinking about doing some kind of messaging system for members so that there's a community building thing happening.

01:55:21.000 But the issue is we have like one developer.

01:55:24.000 And so it's an issue of how much we can afford and how fast we can do it.

01:55:27.000 But yeah, first I was like, screw Facebook.

01:55:29.000 But at the same time, it's like some comments are better than no comments.

01:55:32.000 So it might be worth it as a stepping stone.

01:55:34.000 And if we did Facebook comments, you snap your fingers and they're there.

01:55:37.000 It's, like, really easy to generate, and then it posts on Facebook, and then people can share on Facebook, so... But Facebook is awful!

01:55:43.000 All right, Waffle Sensei says, Yes, Magic the Gathering is an expensive game.

01:55:45.000 right? What commanders do you run? My Omnath, Locus of Mana will destroy you. And to the viewers,

01:55:52.000 teach your kids magic because they won't be able to afford drugs. Yes, Magic the Gathering is an

01:55:57.000 expensive game. That's what he was saying, pay to win. Yeah, but I mean, honestly, you could just

01:56:00.000 download pieces of paper that have the images on them, cut them up, put some cardboard on it and

01:56:05.000 You don't actually need... Proxies.

01:56:06.000 Yeah, proxies if you really want to play.

01:56:08.000 Not, you can't do it in tournaments, but, you know, typically when we're playing at home, make the deck you want to make to play the best.

01:56:13.000 Dude, I don't think your Omnath deck can beat Tim's Kiki-Jiki deck.

01:56:17.000 I mean, that thing is like a net deck just built to slay.

01:56:20.000 It's golden.

01:56:22.000 Yeah, the cards are golden.

01:56:24.000 All the cards are foil, except for the ones that are like alpha and beta.

01:56:27.000 That's awesome.

01:56:27.000 So that's like an insanely expensive deck.

01:56:30.000 Kaikar, that one's also kind of ridiculous.

01:56:32.000 That's my favorite deck. 0.55

01:56:34.000 Red, white, and blue.

01:56:34.000 Red, white, and blue, baby.

01:56:36.000 America.

01:56:37.000 Then your other one is Thassa of the Deep. 0.98

01:56:39.000 Oh, that one's... That deck's ridiculous.

01:56:41.000 It's just, dude, you should play Tim sometime.

01:56:43.000 It's not fun.

01:56:44.000 Oh, they'd lose.

01:56:44.000 It's not fun.

01:56:45.000 No, you've gotta... We roll... Yeah, it's not...

01:56:48.000 No, no.

01:56:48.000 I mean, it's fun if you like just, like, really fast games.

01:56:53.000 Ian and I got to the point where we would just roll a die and whoever got the highest would be like, oh, good game.

01:56:57.000 Because whoever goes first wins.

01:56:58.000 Whoever gets the mana crypt first.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:00.000 I mean, whoever goes first, man.

01:57:04.000 All right.

01:57:04.000 Howard says, Trump's an actor.

01:57:07.000 DRO contracts.

01:57:09.000 O-X-R-P to get you by. 1.00

01:57:10.000 What?

01:57:11.000 I don't know what that means.

01:57:13.000 All right.

01:57:13.000 Let's see.

01:57:14.000 Tim Wollack says, don't end the show.

01:57:16.000 Ian, some love.

01:57:18.000 Donating to show Ian some love.

01:57:19.000 Man gets too much hate here.

01:57:21.000 Oh, thanks homie. 0.66

01:57:22.000 Really?

01:57:23.000 I feel like I could have hated on you way more.

01:57:25.000 Great conversation.

01:57:26.000 I'll say stuff I think that provokes people's, you know, insecurities sometimes.

01:57:31.000 And I just, better to be honest.

01:57:34.000 I'm with you.

01:57:34.000 Receive, I find.

01:57:36.000 Garhunt says, Trump, level 12 bard, college of lore, strength 11, dexterity 8, constitution 14, intelligence 16, wisdom 8, charisma 20.

01:57:44.000 Favorite attack?

01:57:46.000 Cutting words.

01:57:47.000 Weaknesses.

01:57:48.000 Cream-filled lard burgers.

01:57:50.000 Fix your pitch's email if you want to DM.

01:57:52.000 We have disabled the pitch's email.

01:57:54.000 Yeah, we had to.

01:57:55.000 That was a great description, though.

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:57.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 0.99

01:57:59.000 Beastly Devil says, Tim, you son of a gun.

01:58:01.000 You kept bringing up Battlestar Galactica and decided to watch it.

01:58:04.000 Best decision I have made and one of my favorite sci-fi shows now.

01:58:08.000 Adama Sr.

01:58:09.000 is my character and a great leader.

01:58:12.000 So say we all.

01:58:14.000 Dude, that show. 0.84

01:58:14.000 The old school Battlestar? 0.84

01:58:15.000 New one.

01:58:16.000 Well, I don't know.

01:58:17.000 The old school one was badass.

01:58:18.000 In the 70s?

01:58:19.000 Yeah.

01:58:19.000 I haven't seen it.

01:58:20.000 You know, what's crazy is, so you know the, I'm assuming the stories are very similar, or you've seen the new one?

01:58:25.000 No, I haven't.

01:58:27.000 So, the Cylons destroy the colonies, and then the fleet is just traveling, and all they have left are these fleet of ships, and then there's one plot where there's a ship that's just mining, effectively, coal, so it's all of these people have to work 16 hour days with no breaks, and they're just slaves.

01:58:44.000 They're like if you stop working we all die and so then there's a revolt and then they're like other people have to

01:58:49.000 rotate in Because they're gonna just kill themselves or something

01:58:51.000 shows brutal. Yeah crazy And then in the end they make it to earth and then they're

01:58:56.000 like the people on earth are compatible with us It's like okay. That's my

01:59:00.000 That's like a weird plot point, but I guess We'll take a look.

01:59:04.000 We actually have a card game in development right now.

01:59:05.000 Doom? Derm?

01:59:07.000 Tim and Ian, have you heard of the trading card game Flesh and Blood?

01:59:10.000 I'd quit competitive magic the Gathering after 15 years for this game.

01:59:13.000 It's amazing, you'll both love it.

01:59:14.000 We'll take a look. We actually have a card game in development right now.

01:59:17.000 Um, about, uh, culture war politics and stuff being developed.

01:59:22.000 Yeah, I was wor- I built the- Tim and I built the, uh, the database.

01:59:25.000 And Shamus did the art.

01:59:26.000 Freedom Tunes did the art.

01:59:27.000 But now we do have, like, a game master who's combing through it and setting it up and fixing things.

01:59:32.000 Game testing, yeah.

01:59:34.000 Alright, Marshall Mello says, Chris's opinion piece yesterday was one of the most unintelligent and disgusting things I've ever read. 0.96

01:59:40.000 Somebody needs to check his mental health. 0.94

01:59:42.000 Seriously.

01:59:43.000 Wow.

01:59:43.000 Outraged.

01:59:44.000 I think Chris wrote that he was pro-choice?

01:59:48.000 Pro-abortion?

01:59:49.000 Yeah, he said.

01:59:50.000 The headline is something like, because I believe in the Bible, I'm pro-choice or pro-abortion.

01:59:58.000 I have to say, Chris Carr is like the backbone of all of my work.

02:00:02.000 He can write whatever opinion piece he wants.

02:00:04.000 I mean, he's a very intelligent guy.

02:00:07.000 Marshall, I'm glad you read it.

02:00:08.000 I'm glad you've expressed your opinion, disliking it, because that's a good thing. 1.00

02:00:12.000 And I'm glad Chris wrote it.

02:00:14.000 If it makes you think, it's worth being there.

02:00:15.000 I mean, that's the point of effective op-ed pieces.

02:00:18.000 Right, and then Marshall, for your thoughts, it should arm you against... This is the thing, like, read people you disagree with, express your disagreement, and now you're better equipped to argue your ideas.

02:00:30.000 That's what I'm all about.

02:00:32.000 So, that's a good thing.

02:00:35.000 Alright, Sparky says, Star Trek, the original series, is the only good Star Trek.

02:00:40.000 Next generation.

02:00:42.000 Next generation.

02:00:44.000 What about you?

02:00:45.000 Original series?

02:00:47.000 I mean, I thought, like, it depends. 0.96

02:00:51.000 So if we're talking about captains, I mean, Kirk, far and away better than some fucking Frenchman, right? 1.00

02:00:56.000 But if you're talking about overall series, I can see the argument for next generation. 0.77

02:01:00.000 Yeah, they had the opportunity to improve upon it.

02:01:03.000 Yeah, there were a lot of elements that were better.

02:01:06.000 What do you think now?

02:01:07.000 Do you watch The Orville?

02:01:08.000 No.

02:01:09.000 I'm actually really impressed with Seth MacFarlane.

02:01:12.000 He did a whole episode about detransitioning kids that were forced to transition.

02:01:18.000 Spoiler alert, I guess, for those that don't want to hear it, because it was a couple weeks ago.

02:01:22.000 But they did an episode where one of the planets in the Union was ejected because they were forcing kids to transition.

02:01:30.000 It's like, it's a crazy, I'm like, I can't believe he wrote this stuff.

02:01:33.000 But like, as long as he's willing to write these stories, maybe some of these people who follow him, because he's very Democrat, might actually be exposed to some other ideas.

02:01:43.000 Basically the plot was on their planet, they don't allow women. 1.00

02:01:46.000 They forced transition them to male. 0.96

02:01:48.000 And then this kid grows up and is like, this is not what I'm supposed to be.

02:01:51.000 And then there's like a conflict with the traditions of the planet that wanted to transition kids. 0.55

02:01:55.000 The kid de-transitions and then the planet is trying to stop like their smugglers rescuing these kids from being forced to go undergo sex changes.

02:02:04.000 It's crazy that he wrote this story and then they've done it two episodes on it.

02:02:09.000 Yeah.

02:02:09.000 Yeah, but I can promise you, I could totally be wrong.

02:02:13.000 I'm betting that that's his vision of like, the smugglers were the blue states and the planets the red states.

02:02:20.000 I don't, you know, some people have said like, he's trying to make a story about why kids should transition, but I'm like, I don't know about what you think he's thinking.

02:02:29.000 All I know is he did a show where they forcefully transition a baby. 0.83

02:02:34.000 Seth MacFarlane literally says, you can't perform a sex change on a baby, that's unethical.

02:02:39.000 And then they've got several episodes now where they're trying to stop minors from undergoing sex changes. 0.93

02:02:46.000 So I'm like, you'd think you'd be cancelled heavily for getting into that territory.

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02:03:08.000 It's going to be really, really cool.

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02:03:15.000 No.

02:03:16.000 Nothing?

02:03:17.000 You got social media?

02:03:18.000 I mean, you can TuckerMax.com or whatever.

02:03:21.000 I'm on social.

02:03:23.000 Right on, man.

02:03:23.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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02:03:48.000 Tucker, it's really good to meet you, man.

02:03:49.000 That was really profound.

02:03:50.000 Thank you.

02:03:50.000 Especially just talking about the MDMA and like psychological therapy.

02:03:53.000 I think it's a huge part of the story moving forward.

02:03:56.000 Thank you.

02:03:56.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:03:57.000 Yeah, my pleasure.

02:03:58.000 Bye, everyone.

02:04:00.000 And Chris is here.

02:04:02.000 Thanks for watching.

02:04:04.000 Check out other shows, Pop Culture Crisis, and we'll be back Monday with another episode.

02:04:10.000 I just want to say this, Monday is going to be one of the best episodes we've ever had.

02:04:15.000 I'm super excited for who's coming.

02:04:17.000 We normally don't announce the guest, because we don't want to jinx it, but you guys are going to be so excited.

02:04:21.000 I am honored.

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