Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 09, 2020


Timcast IRL - Leaked Tapes Show Trump "Downplaying" COVID, Media Smears Omit Key Context


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

208.67728

Word Count

28,634

Sentence Count

2,574

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

75


Summary

On today's episode, we discuss the latest smear campaign against Donald Trump, including Bob Woodward's new book, "Fear and Loathing in Washington" and why we should be mad at the president for his handling of the coronavirus crisis. We also talk about how intersectionality is ruining our ability to have a meaningful conversation about racism and white privilege.


Transcript

00:00:04.000 Donald Trump apparently gave a multitude of interviews with Bob Woodward, and now all of these leaked audiotapes are coming out.
00:00:14.000 I don't know if you can necessarily call them leaked, but they're getting leaked in snippets.
00:00:17.000 And then all of a sudden, just the smear machine is going insane.
00:00:22.000 Donald Trump downplayed the coronavirus.
00:00:26.000 As though we don't know exactly why he did it.
00:00:29.000 Because the story, particularly the one from Washington Post, straight up has Trump quoted saying, well, I don't want to create a panic.
00:00:35.000 Wow.
00:00:36.000 So when you actually read the news, you're like, hey, that's actually good of Donald Trump.
00:00:40.000 He didn't want everyone to panic.
00:00:41.000 He didn't want to cause undue stress to people.
00:00:43.000 But he knew it was going to be bad.
00:00:45.000 And that's why he took action early.
00:00:46.000 The craziest thing about all of the COVID stuff to me is that I I don't know what they're proposing Trump have done.
00:00:53.000 Like, they're saying Trump did a bad job, and I'm like, okay, well, what should he have done?
00:00:56.000 He banned travel in a bunch of different ways, he put out guidelines for the states, and then the states did their thing.
00:01:01.000 And they blamed him for it.
00:01:02.000 If I recall correctly, it wasn't Donald Trump who put sick COVID patients into nursing homes, resulting in thousands of elderly being killed.
00:01:10.000 And recently, someone apparently was flying a plane over New York that said Cuomo killed Nana.
00:01:15.000 That wasn't Trump.
00:01:16.000 I'll tell you what, the Democrats are absolutely going after low information voters, people who are just going to see the smears and they're going to believe it and think Donald Trump was doing this on purpose.
00:01:27.000 And I'll tell you what, you want to criticize the president on COVID, I'm more than happy to hear it.
00:01:33.000 I've even said in the past, I don't think he did the best possible thing anyone could have.
00:01:37.000 But then again, What should he or could he have done?
00:01:40.000 And that's the question.
00:01:41.000 If you can give me an answer to that, I'll have a conversation about it.
00:01:43.000 But for the most part, nobody's actually offered up anything other than Trump violating the 10th Amendment going in.
00:01:48.000 And anyway, I'm going to rant on this too much.
00:01:50.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I do have some bad news.
00:01:53.000 And unfortunately, Will Chamberlain couldn't join us today.
00:01:55.000 He had to cancel.
00:01:56.000 Hopefully, we will reschedule.
00:01:58.000 Just some personal stuff.
00:01:59.000 And hopefully, we'll have him back on soon because Will is a very intelligent lawyer, Trump supporter, who really could have helped us walk through this stuff.
00:02:07.000 But within Within this story is something even more important, in my opinion.
00:02:13.000 Donald Trump referring to white privilege as drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:02:18.000 I heard that and I swooned.
00:02:19.000 I went, oh, I fell over.
00:02:20.000 I was like, amazing.
00:02:22.000 I love it.
00:02:23.000 Well, we don't have Will, but joining me and Sour Patch Lids today is our buddy, Ian Crossland.
00:02:27.000 Sup, homie?
00:02:28.000 Yeah.
00:02:29.000 How's it going, man?
00:02:29.000 Greatness.
00:02:31.000 So I think a lot of you guys know Ian, and you know, Will couldn't make it, so I was like, Ian, come sit in the chair.
00:02:36.000 It's better than ever.
00:02:37.000 Yeah, it's better than ever.
00:02:38.000 We need to complain about this weird intersectional lunacy.
00:02:43.000 So we'll definitely, we'll read through a lot of what they're saying about Trump and the smear piece, because this is like the big story of the day.
00:02:49.000 But before we do, first, make sure you smash that like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and I'd like to remind everybody that just about a week or so ago, a far-left Antifa Black Lives Matter guy with a big ol' fist tattoo on his neck stalked some Trump supporters and then put a bullet in the chest, two bullets, killing a Trump supporter.
00:03:11.000 So the reason I'm bringing this up is because they're trying to make us ignore what's happening with the riots.
00:03:19.000 And we're going to be talking a lot about this crazy intersectionality stuff because, you know, Trump brings up, you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:03:25.000 I'm absolutely impressed to hear this.
00:03:27.000 That in a candid interview from like quite some time ago, Donald Trump was like, white privilege, you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:03:32.000 And I'm like, Here, here.
00:03:34.000 Even though I actually kind of agree with some of the ideas around the social justice stuff, I think it's much better that you nip it in the bud and you push back and you say no to it than accept what these lunatics are doing.
00:03:48.000 Because the next story is University of Michigan, Dearborn.
00:03:53.000 They created a whites-only cafe.
00:03:56.000 I'm assuming it's some kind of, like, online portal thing they were doing.
00:03:59.000 Quite literally.
00:04:00.000 Now, to be fair, it's not whites-only.
00:04:02.000 It's non-POC, but basically means white-only.
00:04:06.000 And this is the logical conclusion of this fringe ideology, and if we don't push back on it, we are literally going to go back in time to segregation.
00:04:13.000 I've been saying this for a while.
00:04:15.000 I said it back in, like, 2015 or 2016, when there was, like, some graduation ceremony that was black-only.
00:04:22.000 We've seen this at the Black Lives Matter protests throughout the country.
00:04:26.000 I've personally witnessed this.
00:04:27.000 And when I saw that, I'm like, that's freaky.
00:04:29.000 Well, then we get these mainstream media articles that are saying things like, it's not racist to have black-only spaces.
00:04:36.000 Because, you know, marginalized people want to have their own safe space.
00:04:40.000 The logical conclusion, of course, Bret Weinstein.
00:04:42.000 They told him the white people have to leave the college.
00:04:44.000 Now we're seeing more universities say the same thing.
00:04:47.000 And the narrative that's emerging is that we have an anti-racist majority.
00:04:52.000 When in fact, these people who claim to be anti-racist are quite literally racist.
00:04:56.000 It is a semantic game.
00:04:57.000 So, you know what?
00:04:58.000 Instead of just ranting on literally every story we have, we'll just jump into the first one.
00:05:03.000 So, let's go for it.
00:05:05.000 And again, hit that like button.
00:05:07.000 So here's the big story that's sweeping the nation.
00:05:10.000 Woodward book.
00:05:11.000 Trump says he knew coronavirus was deadly and worse than the flu, while intentionally misleading Americans.
00:05:19.000 I'm not going to play any games.
00:05:20.000 I'm not even going to bury the lead.
00:05:21.000 I'm going to go straight down and show you the quote.
00:05:23.000 I still like playing it down because I don't want to create a panic.
00:05:27.000 And there it is.
00:05:28.000 We're done.
00:05:28.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
00:05:29.000 We'll see you.
00:05:29.000 I'm just kidding.
00:05:31.000 Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19th that he deliberately minimized the danger.
00:05:35.000 I wanted to always play it down.
00:05:37.000 I still like playing it down because I don't want to create a panic.
00:05:40.000 I have tremendous respect for that.
00:05:43.000 What should he have done?
00:05:43.000 I think he did the right thing.
00:05:46.000 Well, I think that panic is our worst enemy.
00:05:48.000 We talked about this a long time ago.
00:05:51.000 You know, whatever the virus, whatever the situation, if people start freaking out and buying all the toilet paper, there's going to be issues.
00:05:56.000 They were fighting over toilet paper.
00:05:58.000 And you had Trump saying things weren't that bad.
00:06:01.000 Right.
00:06:01.000 So the question when they basically when they told people not to wear masks, they didn't want to run on the masks.
00:06:07.000 That's kind of where I start to wonder, OK, I know you don't want to instill panic, but how many lies is it OK to tell to circumvent panic?
00:06:16.000 I think one of the big reasons why they were saying, don't buy masks, I need a mask, is because it was not necessarily just about a run on the masks, it was about creating a panic.
00:06:26.000 Convincing people you needed a mask would have them be like, for what?
00:06:30.000 And then they would panic in other ways.
00:06:32.000 People don't realize how... I don't know if you remember all the memes that came out Hmm.
00:06:37.000 where people were like, oh, no, the economy.
00:06:39.000 And there was like the one where the earth was blowing up.
00:06:41.000 I think Elon Musk, Elon Musk posted it.
00:06:43.000 It's like an astronaut on the moon.
00:06:45.000 And there was like a comet blasting through the earth.
00:06:48.000 The earth was exploding and he was like the economy.
00:06:50.000 And there was one where dinosaurs were like walking around and meteors were falling
00:06:54.000 down and the dinosaurs were like the economy.
00:06:56.000 The funny thing is people don't realize what the economy means.
00:06:59.000 Do you know do you know what the word economy means?
00:07:01.000 Eco, something to do with the earth.
00:07:04.000 It comes from the Greek oikonomia, meaning household management.
00:07:08.000 I learned that from a rap news video from like 10 years ago or something.
00:07:11.000 Yeah, anyway, I'm pretty sure that's correct.
00:07:14.000 Oikonomia or something like that.
00:07:16.000 And the general idea is that when people are saying, like, the economy, oh no, you're talking about quite literally the organizational structure that guarantees food travels from the farm to the table.
00:07:27.000 And when that breaks down, and it did, what happened?
00:07:30.000 Supply chain disruption, shortages, people lose their jobs.
00:07:33.000 A lot of it had to do with the lockdown, for sure.
00:07:35.000 But we were seeing, like, dairy farms just dumping all the milk.
00:07:37.000 We saw farms just shoveling everything into the dirt.
00:07:40.000 And that's why the economy matters.
00:07:42.000 So yeah, Trump did the right thing.
00:07:44.000 I read this story and they frame it like he intentionally misled Americans.
00:07:50.000 Come on, man.
00:07:50.000 I mean, you can't tell people everything.
00:07:53.000 It's not his job.
00:07:54.000 You know, we have secrecy for a reason, as much as it can become dangerous, I think.
00:08:00.000 You have to, you know, we have walls because you can't show everybody everything you're doing.
00:08:05.000 You know, people make plans in private because... Sometimes people want to walk around naked in their house, man.
00:08:10.000 Oftentimes.
00:08:10.000 And if you open up the blinds, you can get in trouble.
00:08:15.000 It's true, literally.
00:08:17.000 It's illegal to expose yourself.
00:08:18.000 Yes, yes.
00:08:19.000 So we have blinds for that.
00:08:21.000 I'm actually, I lean very, very much towards transparency.
00:08:24.000 I think in the past a lot of people would say that I was like a transparency absolutist, but that's just not true.
00:08:29.000 But I'm very, very much for public transparency in the sense, if it's happening in the public, the public has a right to know.
00:08:36.000 There are private things, especially when it pertains—and so this does include a lot of government functions, but I do draw the line at, if we just published everything that we did, we wouldn't exist as a country.
00:08:47.000 No, we'd be undermined.
00:08:48.000 We would undermine ourselves, it's almost like.
00:08:50.000 Well, our foreign adversaries would take all the information, use it, create datasets and, you know, machine learning prediction models, and they would— Oh, totally.
00:08:59.000 mind literally, like yeah, they would be able to track and predict and just disrupt literally
00:09:02.000 everything we did, we'd be under complete control.
00:09:05.000 And the monarchy never would have been overthrown.
00:09:07.000 George Washington was totally into secrecy.
00:09:09.000 I mean, he was great at spying and...
00:09:11.000 Well, I mean, I've watched National Treasure.
00:09:15.000 With Nicolas Cage?
00:09:17.000 No, I didn't see it.
00:09:17.000 You didn't see it?
00:09:18.000 No, it looked okay.
00:09:18.000 I'm kidding.
00:09:20.000 It's the one where Nicolas Cage, like, the Founding Fathers had, like, secret gold or something hidden under D.C.
00:09:25.000 or whatever.
00:09:26.000 I was gonna ask for a spoiler.
00:09:28.000 Like, finds a secret book.
00:09:29.000 It's an old... There's two of them.
00:09:30.000 They need to make a third one because it's really hokey and hilarious.
00:09:34.000 Anyway, but yeah, yeah, they definitely... Look, we've had code.
00:09:36.000 We've had... There's a reason why we want to conceal information.
00:09:40.000 Because information is valuable.
00:09:42.000 In this regard, I think the issue is, could you imagine if Trump came out and said, we're all going to die?
00:09:49.000 No, it'd be crazy.
00:09:50.000 They would be like, Trump created a panic.
00:09:52.000 Of course!
00:09:53.000 There's nothing the man could do or say.
00:09:57.000 People still kind of panicked, but they didn't really panic.
00:10:00.000 And that would have been devastating.
00:10:03.000 If more than toilet paper were.
00:10:04.000 The conspiracy people were on it.
00:10:07.000 They like, they already had three months supply of toilet paper and they were sitting there shining their gun being like, you know, heh heh heh, y'all are late to the party.
00:10:14.000 They got the toilet paper stocked up.
00:10:16.000 Let me read a little bit of this just to get some more context into what they're saying.
00:10:21.000 They say President Trump's head popped up during a top-secret intelligence briefing in the Oval Office on January 28th, when the discussion turned to the coronavirus outbreak in China.
00:10:29.000 Quote, This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency, National Security Advisor Robert C. O'Brien told Trump, according to a new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward.
00:10:41.000 This is going to be the roughest thing you face."
00:10:43.000 Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security advisor, agreed.
00:10:47.000 He told the president that after reaching contacts in China, it was evident that the world faced a health emergency on
00:10:53.000 par with the flu pandemic of 1918, which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide.
00:10:59.000 Ten days later, Trump called Woodward and revealed that he thought the situation was
00:11:03.000 far more dire than what he had been saying publicly.
00:11:07.000 So Trump is candidly speaking to journalists?
00:11:10.000 This was crazy to me.
00:11:11.000 They did a poll and they asked Republicans, is the number of deaths okay in China?
00:11:18.000 It's hard to iterate properly, I suppose.
00:11:25.000 But the idea was, are you happy with the job that was done?
00:11:29.000 And they basically said, we find the amount of dead to be acceptable in the context of, we were told it was going to be like six million.
00:11:36.000 Oh, wow.
00:11:37.000 I remember I was doing videos and I was like, wow, the New York Times is predicting could be from like two to six million.
00:11:42.000 This is crazy.
00:11:43.000 It's like a massive percentage of the population, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:47.000 And then it turns out it's, you know, we're in one hundred and eighty something thousand and that's horrifying.
00:11:53.000 And that's, you know, it's really bad.
00:11:54.000 But look at this.
00:11:55.000 Trump was warned it could be 50 million people.
00:11:58.000 That's crazy.
00:11:59.000 Worldwide.
00:11:59.000 It's it's terrifying.
00:12:01.000 But who like.
00:12:03.000 I get that you got to go worst case scenario.
00:12:05.000 Some people's jobs are to, you know, extrapolate worst case scenario and plan for the worst case scenario, but that will cause crazy panic.
00:12:12.000 And they wanted him to do it because that's a conclusion that's being drawn here.
00:12:17.000 Here's some quotes.
00:12:18.000 You just breathe the air and that's how it passed, Trump said in a February 7th call.
00:12:22.000 And so that's a very tricky one.
00:12:23.000 It's a very delicate one.
00:12:25.000 It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.
00:12:29.000 This is deadly stuff.
00:12:30.000 The president repeated for emphasis.
00:12:32.000 At that time, Trump was telling the nation that the virus was no worse than a seasonal flu, predicting it would soon disappear and insisting that the U.S.
00:12:39.000 government had it totally under control.
00:12:41.000 It would be several weeks before he would publicly acknowledge the virus was no ordinary flu and that it could be transmitted through the air.
00:12:49.000 Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19th, this is where he said, I don't want to create a panic.
00:12:53.000 Aside from exploring Trump's handling of the pandemic, Woodward's new book Rage covers race relations, diplomacy with North Korea, and a range of other issues that have arisen during the past two years.
00:13:04.000 The book also includes brutal assessments of Trump's conduct from former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, former Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats, and others.
00:13:12.000 The book is based in part on the 18 on-the-record interviews Woodward conducted with the President between December and July.
00:13:19.000 Woodward writes that other quotes in the book were acquired through deep background conversations with people in which information is divulged in exchanges recounted without the people being named.
00:13:30.000 I'm not going to read through all of this because we have the gist of things.
00:13:36.000 But I just gotta point out, man.
00:13:38.000 Have you heard about some of the things that Trump has done recently?
00:13:42.000 Enlighten me.
00:13:43.000 The Israeli peace deal.
00:13:45.000 Israel-UAE.
00:13:46.000 Then there was the Kosovo-Serbia peace deal, which included recognition of Israel.
00:13:50.000 And now he's going to be drawing down our troop numbers by about 2,000 in Iraq, bringing troops back.
00:13:55.000 That's good, right?
00:13:56.000 It's great, dude.
00:13:57.000 It's great.
00:13:58.000 So what do you consider yourself politically?
00:14:01.000 I'm very moderate.
00:14:02.000 I don't think I don't play party politics.
00:14:04.000 I just look for the smartest guy in the in the woman in the room and try and support them.
00:14:08.000 You were saying like a week ago that you didn't like Trump.
00:14:11.000 You were like, no, he's a bombast.
00:14:12.000 He yells.
00:14:13.000 He says things like really crude, you know, and he alienates people by talking about the Democrat.
00:14:20.000 The Democratic mayor is alienating 40 million people.
00:14:22.000 So that and that causes anger amongst those people.
00:14:24.000 And then that's not what we need right now.
00:14:26.000 We need like cohesion.
00:14:28.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:30.000 A lot of people who really support Trump will push back on that.
00:14:33.000 But I gotta tell you, man, I've been in Uber rides, I've talked to regular people, and I hear the same thing often.
00:14:40.000 They're like, I really like what he's doing for the country, but I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, or I wish he would kind of chill out, things like that.
00:14:47.000 And it's tough.
00:14:48.000 I wonder if it's because he really wants to fire up his really loyal base.
00:14:51.000 Yeah, probably.
00:14:52.000 And keep that fire burning.
00:14:53.000 Yeah.
00:14:54.000 So he's very raw.
00:14:55.000 Or maybe it's just who Trump is.
00:14:56.000 He's a bombastic fella.
00:14:59.000 I don't know.
00:15:00.000 People that know him say that he's exactly like that in person.
00:15:04.000 But it seems like a character.
00:15:06.000 You know why I think it's real?
00:15:07.000 He did 18 on-the-record interviews with Woodward.
00:15:11.000 He straight up was talking about what he was doing, what was going on, he was very candid
00:15:16.000 It's interesting because The Intercept wrote this article a while ago saying,
00:15:16.000 and transparent.
00:15:21.000 Trump is the least honest and the most honest president we've ever had.
00:15:25.000 And they mention it's because Trump will lie about a lot of things.
00:15:28.000 For example, he tweeted, I never called John McCain a loser.
00:15:34.000 But he did.
00:15:35.000 He tweeted John McCain.
00:15:36.000 It should be in an article like Donald Trump, John McCain is a loser.
00:15:39.000 He wasn't referencing McCain's service, though.
00:15:41.000 And I think that's what he was... I don't necessarily want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
00:15:45.000 Like, I can't assume what his intent was.
00:15:46.000 He straight up said, I never called him a loser.
00:15:49.000 And it's weird, silly things like that where it's like, is that even that important?
00:15:49.000 He did.
00:15:53.000 You could have just been like, look, I called the guy a loser because he lost in 2008, but I have nothing but respect for his service.
00:15:58.000 Oh, he was literally calling him a loser because he lost the election.
00:16:01.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:16:02.000 Yeah, so someone brought it up.
00:16:03.000 He was being interviewed, and he was like, nah, he's a loser.
00:16:05.000 He lost.
00:16:06.000 And then they were like, he's a war hero.
00:16:07.000 And Trump was like, nah, he's not a war hero.
00:16:09.000 He got caught.
00:16:10.000 I prefer people who didn't get caught.
00:16:11.000 That's brutal.
00:16:12.000 It is.
00:16:12.000 It is brutal.
00:16:13.000 Yeah, but you know what?
00:16:14.000 There's a really funny comment I heard where someone said something like, Conservatives hated John McCain more than they were concerned about Trump's statements on military service.
00:16:24.000 Yeah, I wasn't a big McCain fan.
00:16:26.000 Are you?
00:16:26.000 Did you like him?
00:16:27.000 No, of course not.
00:16:28.000 I'm not into warmongers in general.
00:16:29.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:30.000 That guy's smiling, smiling pictures of the people.
00:16:33.000 He's like, we're gonna go blow stuff up!
00:16:35.000 Well, I would rather have somebody who lies about tiny things than someone who lies about big things like Obama did.
00:16:40.000 Oh yeah, absolutely.
00:16:41.000 The TPP, doing it with a smile, that can be much more insidious.
00:16:45.000 But here's what, basically what The Intercept brought up was, Trump, I love this interview, he just announced we're doing this big weapons deal with Saudi Arabia, and that was like, he just said it, you know?
00:16:56.000 And he's honest.
00:16:59.000 Is he honest or is he a liar?
00:17:01.000 Or is it both?
00:17:02.000 He's mostly honest, right?
00:17:05.000 Like these protests.
00:17:06.000 Yes.
00:17:07.000 Mostly peaceful.
00:17:07.000 I think it's really hard to break down, but I think Donald Trump lies about some of the stupidest things ever that he should just be up front about, but then he's really open and honest about a bunch of other things that he's not supposed to be.
00:17:21.000 I know.
00:17:21.000 Like, this is crazy.
00:17:23.000 They're dragging Trump for being honest with a journalist.
00:17:26.000 They complain that he lies to journalists all the time and you can't trust him.
00:17:26.000 This is nuts!
00:17:31.000 Then when he's honest, what do they expect?
00:17:33.000 Yeah, this is just people that want him down.
00:17:35.000 Yeah.
00:17:36.000 Well, I'll tell you what, man.
00:17:37.000 You know what my favorite thing about this Woodward release is?
00:17:41.000 Trump telling Woodward that he drank the Kool-Aid.
00:17:43.000 Dude, I wonder if he even knows where that's from.
00:17:45.000 Drinking the Kool-Aid?
00:17:46.000 Yeah, which is from the Jonestown Massacre.
00:17:49.000 Where, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:50.000 What's the guy's name? I don't remember the guy's name.
00:17:52.000 I don't, I can look it up.
00:17:52.000 Do you know the guy's name?
00:17:53.000 Took them all to Jonestown and then had them all drink Kool-Aid laced with cyanide,
00:17:57.000 tearing babies away from their mothers.
00:17:59.000 That's nightmarish.
00:18:01.000 Yeah, it really is.
00:18:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:03.000 That happened in our lifetime, right?
00:18:05.000 Was it the 70s, maybe?
00:18:06.000 Jonestown, something?
00:18:07.000 Maybe the 80s?
00:18:09.000 1978.
00:18:09.000 Really?
00:18:09.000 November 18th, 1978.
00:18:12.000 Mass murder, suicide of members of the California-based People's Temple cult.
00:18:16.000 That was Jim Jones.
00:18:18.000 Jonestown.
00:18:19.000 I didn't realize it was that long ago.
00:18:20.000 Jonestown.
00:18:21.000 What was that thing that happened in like the 90s where they all thought they were going to go on a spaceship or something?
00:18:25.000 Oh my gosh.
00:18:26.000 They still have their website up.
00:18:27.000 I remember that.
00:18:28.000 They have a website from the super 90s.
00:18:31.000 Wow.
00:18:31.000 They maintain it.
00:18:32.000 It was Hail Bop.
00:18:33.000 They wanted to ride the tail of Hail Bop.
00:18:35.000 I don't know who it was, but their website, they left two of their members alive to maintain their website.
00:18:41.000 I remember reading how weird this was.
00:18:42.000 Yeah, I'm gonna have to look it up.
00:18:43.000 I don't remember.
00:18:45.000 Who it was or what cult they were with.
00:18:47.000 You said the name of the cult earlier, whatever it was.
00:18:49.000 Heaven's Gate.
00:18:50.000 Yeah, I think it was Heaven's Gate.
00:18:51.000 Yeah, let me see if I can find the site.
00:18:52.000 I might tweet it out.
00:18:53.000 Because I remember watching Family Guy did an episode about it where like Meg joins a cult.
00:18:58.000 Heavensgate.com.
00:18:59.000 Hold on.
00:19:04.000 For the people that are listening, the context is that, yeah, everyone's saying Heaven's Gate, is that Donald Trump said to Bob Woodward, what is this?
00:19:11.000 This is an amazing 90s site, and I wish you guys could see my screen.
00:19:14.000 Oh, throw it up!
00:19:15.000 It's got like a talisman, and it's moving, and at the top it says Red Alert.
00:19:19.000 What's the website?
00:19:20.000 HeavensGate.com.
00:19:22.000 HeavensGate?
00:19:23.000 HeavensGate.com.
00:19:24.000 Yep, we're going to HeavensGate, guys.
00:19:26.000 It'll be great.
00:19:26.000 For the record, I don't think you can ride the tail of a comet.
00:19:28.000 I don't think so either.
00:19:29.000 Oh, there we go.
00:19:30.000 Pull it up.
00:19:30.000 It's a GeoCities site.
00:19:32.000 Oh, snap.
00:19:32.000 Dude, wow.
00:19:33.000 Yeah, you're welcome.
00:19:34.000 You guys make websites, right?
00:19:36.000 I mean, I used to make Flash websites.
00:19:39.000 I used to actually do all the programming in Flash.
00:19:41.000 And you're right, it's HaleBop.
00:19:42.000 HaleBop?
00:19:42.000 That's freakish.
00:19:44.000 Oh, this is weird.
00:19:46.000 Oh, and all these people are dead now.
00:19:48.000 It's creepy.
00:19:49.000 Except for the two who are maintaining the website, I guess.
00:19:51.000 As far as I can tell, they're still maintaining it.
00:19:53.000 Anyway, the context is, it's not particularly relevant, I guess, where drinking the Kool-Aid comes from, but it is a thing.
00:20:03.000 And so what happened is, this is actually, I think this is amazing.
00:20:07.000 Check this out from Forbes.
00:20:09.000 Wow, no.
00:20:10.000 In audio tape, Trump rejects notion he has white privilege.
00:20:13.000 Good for you, good sir.
00:20:14.000 Good for you, Trump.
00:20:15.000 I'm glad he's doing this.
00:20:16.000 President Trump flat out rejected the notion he has benefited from white privilege during an interview with Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward, and then responded with contempt according to audio clips reported by the Post Wednesday.
00:20:28.000 And we will play you the audio clip.
00:20:30.000 We will play them for you because I love it.
00:20:31.000 Let's do it.
00:20:33.000 Woodward conducted 18 on-record interviews, we know this, during one interview on June 19th as protests broke out across the country over George Floyd.
00:20:41.000 Woodward asked Trump whether they both were isolated and caged from understanding the anger and pain of black Americans as two white men of the same generation with similarly privileged upbringings.
00:20:52.000 No, Trump said, before responding in a mocking tone, you really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you?
00:20:57.000 Woo!
00:20:57.000 I love it.
00:20:59.000 Just listen, you, Trump went on, expressing contempt.
00:21:01.000 Wow, no, I don't feel that at all.
00:21:04.000 Trump went on to tout economic statistics for Black Americans pre-pandemic, including the low Black unemployment rate, before repeating a commonly used claim that he's done more for the Black community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.
00:21:15.000 During a separate interview on race on June 22nd, Trump somewhat shifted his tone, acknowledging there was systemic or institutional racism everywhere, but that there was probably less in the US than most places.
00:21:27.000 Trump is right.
00:21:29.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:21:29.000 You know what, man?
00:21:31.000 I really wish that he was less bombastic, less loud and abrasive.
00:21:38.000 Because I'm like, he's saying populist things that need to be said, that moderate, regular people want to hear.
00:21:44.000 We're bringing the troops back.
00:21:45.000 OK, this white privilege stuff is, you know, no way you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:21:49.000 We should talk about majority privilege, because I think really, the misnomer is that they're making it a racial issue when it comes down to the majority of the country you're in.
00:21:57.000 When you're in a group of people that look like you, and unfortunately it seems to come down to the way things look.
00:22:02.000 Or smell.
00:22:03.000 There's a lot here to break down, but first, we are blessed with the actual recording of what happened, and hopefully you'll be able to hear this properly.
00:22:14.000 Wait, it is not playing.
00:22:17.000 Let's try that again.
00:22:17.000 Okay, let's see if this plays now.
00:22:21.000 And we'll start this over.
00:22:23.000 Let me ask you this.
00:22:25.000 We share one thing in common.
00:22:29.000 We're white, privileged.
00:22:32.000 My father was a lawyer and a judge in Illinois.
00:22:35.000 We know what your dad did.
00:22:39.000 Do you have any sense that that privilege has isolated and put you in a cave to a certain extent as it put me and I think lots of white privileged people in a cave and that we have to work our way out of it to understand the anger and the pain particularly black people feel in this country.
00:23:11.000 No, you really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you?
00:23:14.000 Listen to you!
00:23:15.000 Wow!
00:23:16.000 No, I don't feel that at all!
00:23:18.000 I love that.
00:23:18.000 You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn't you?
00:23:20.000 Yes, they did.
00:23:21.000 They all did.
00:23:22.000 They're losing it.
00:23:24.000 Alright, now listen.
00:23:26.000 There is something to this idea of white privilege, but it's what you just mentioned.
00:23:32.000 We've talked about this before.
00:23:33.000 It's majority privilege.
00:23:35.000 If you're in China, you are going to be able to navigate the country much more easily, knowing the language, being easily identifiable as Chinese.
00:23:42.000 We don't call that Chinese privilege.
00:23:44.000 In any country, that would be the case.
00:23:46.000 In fact, in some countries, like notably in Africa, you could literally be the same ethnic background, but have a different tribe.
00:23:54.000 And then you have tribal privilege.
00:23:55.000 It's really just about the dominant group.
00:23:58.000 And so what's happened is this Kool-Aid drinking thing that's happening, and I'm glad to see Trump is pushing back on it because these people are insane.
00:24:06.000 In the U.S., it's fair to say this country for a long time, it's an overwhelming white majority and still is to this day.
00:24:13.000 So there is something to what they're pointing out, but it is extremely racist the way they're going about it.
00:24:21.000 Sure, if you have, like, what are they called, like an anglicized name, then you're more likely to get callbacks and stuff like that.
00:24:28.000 This is true, and there have been actors who have changed their name and made them more, like, anglicized.
00:24:33.000 I think, Kal Penn, do you know the actor?
00:24:35.000 Uh, yeah, that's Penn from Penn and John, right?
00:24:37.000 No, no, no, Kal Penn is the guy from Helden Kumar.
00:24:40.000 Oh, okay.
00:24:42.000 No, I guess my short answer is no.
00:24:45.000 Go to White Castle.
00:24:47.000 I think I've seen it.
00:24:48.000 He's the Indian guy.
00:24:49.000 Apparently his first name is... Oh, that guy's awesome.
00:24:50.000 Yeah, he's a cool dude.
00:24:51.000 He was also on House.
00:24:52.000 Apparently his name is Kalpen.
00:24:54.000 Like, Kalpen is one word.
00:24:55.000 It's his first name.
00:24:57.000 So he changed it so that his name was Kalpen and got more callbacks.
00:25:01.000 There's something to familiarity.
00:25:03.000 The problem I have with this is that the conclusion they come to when they talk about white privilege would be like the homeless guy, you know, sitting in his own filth with no teeth is privileged and has power and is an oppressor over like a wealthy, I don't know, like Latino dude who's like working at a law firm.
00:25:21.000 So it's like there's two things going on at once.
00:25:23.000 There's majority privilege at work and then there's this Coming out of slavery thing 150 years ago where people were being dumped, like the African-American great-grandfathers and stuff came, had no money, no education, so they were at a disadvantage.
00:25:38.000 Yeah, but it's more than that, too.
00:25:39.000 At least these two factors.
00:25:42.000 So here's my problem.
00:25:46.000 Actually, let me preface this with the context of what Trump is saying right here and why I really, really like it.
00:25:50.000 I can't believe that I have to actually look to a Republican president for accurately giving us the space to deal with this problem in a legitimate way, especially when a lot of conservatives wouldn't even agree with me on many of these issues.
00:26:06.000 You can't have these conversations with the left.
00:26:08.000 They've determined already that you're white, you're an oppressor, and it's all this ridiculous, culty, racist nonsense.
00:26:14.000 So here's the things that I've identified, and I think this is fair and makes a lot of sense.
00:26:19.000 There's historical racism.
00:26:21.000 This used to be what was systemic racism, but they've changed the definition, so I don't even know what people are talking about anymore.
00:26:26.000 The general idea being that it wasn't just about ending slavery and then having a bunch of people with inherited wealth and a bunch of people with nothing.
00:26:35.000 It was that after that you had the Democrats working on all of these restrictions and the Jim Crow era and things like this, segregation, that actually created a lot of problems and made things worse.
00:26:46.000 It actually made sure that not only did they have no wealth, but they had no access to any of the existing infrastructure.
00:26:51.000 And that was the Democratic Party.
00:26:54.000 The Klan, for instance, when they went around and the horrible things the Klan did, and then finally we shut them down and got rid of them.
00:27:00.000 Seems like the Republicans had a lot going on shutting down the racists.
00:27:04.000 So the issue is, the way I viewed it years ago when I was talking about systemic racism, is that if we create laws, like I use Ferguson and St.
00:27:13.000 Louis as a really good example because I did a documentary on it.
00:27:17.000 The way St.
00:27:17.000 Louis was designed had a lot to do with white flight.
00:27:21.000 So people were leaving the cities, going to suburbs, incorporating, and then basically saying, no new residents.
00:27:28.000 And so it created a whole bunch of tiny jurisdictions.
00:27:31.000 So what ends up happening is...
00:27:33.000 You have the remnants of this system disproportionately affecting the black community.
00:27:39.000 It is today predominantly an issue of class.
00:27:42.000 That's why I believe class issues are the issues we should focus on and why I really don't like these far leftists and this weird extremist ideology.
00:27:51.000 But what happens in Ferguson is that you have all these tiny cities with their own police departments.
00:27:56.000 So if there's someone who's poor and their license plate is expired, they have to make a choice.
00:28:01.000 Go to work or quit and find a job closer.
00:28:04.000 It's a tough choice.
00:28:04.000 Sometimes people are like, I have to work.
00:28:07.000 But then you get pulled over.
00:28:08.000 Oh.
00:28:09.000 Hey man, it's a $20 fine, you gotta get your plate fixed.
00:28:11.000 All right, I'll do it.
00:28:12.000 You drive another two miles, you're in a new city, get pulled over again.
00:28:15.000 They end up with from one infraction getting multiple infractions.
00:28:19.000 Now it is a class issue today.
00:28:22.000 However, it was built from systems that were overtly racist that are illegal today.
00:28:27.000 So we've seen, you're familiar with like redlining and blockbusting?
00:28:31.000 No.
00:28:31.000 So I can't give you the really great historical detail on redlining, but it was generally a racist housing practice where they created specific areas where they would only allow certain minorities to go or something to that effect.
00:28:42.000 I'm much more familiar with blockbusting, which is like nightmarishly racist.
00:28:47.000 This is crazy stuff.
00:28:48.000 So what they would do is, back in the day when this was all legal and there was literal institutional racism, which for the most part, we have some of this, not in the way most people think.
00:28:58.000 I'll get to that in a second.
00:28:58.000 It's affirmative action.
00:29:00.000 But back then, you'd have real estate agents and like, you know, realty companies would go to a white area.
00:29:06.000 They would buy it.
00:29:07.000 There's a bunch of different tactics they would do.
00:29:09.000 But here's what they do.
00:29:10.000 They buy a house.
00:29:11.000 They rent it out to a black family.
00:29:13.000 And then go and basically threaten all the white people with, you know, some kind of like racial fear, and tell them, oh no, oh, there goes the neighborhood, oh, you better sell to us!
00:29:25.000 Then all of these scared white people would sell very, very quickly, scared their property value would go down.
00:29:30.000 Then the real estate company would own up all the property, they'd get rid of, they'd, you know, eventually end the
00:29:35.000 lease or evict the black family, and then they'd own everything at a premium.
00:29:38.000 So it's alright, like at a discounted rate.
00:29:40.000 Coercion, but they just didn't know that it was going on, so it's like an illegal...
00:29:44.000 It's illegal now, like ended in the 80s.
00:29:46.000 But this was like exploiting racial fears back in the day.
00:29:50.000 Yeah, and so this created, this created, uh, like the way I describe it to people is, I guess you can call it historic
00:29:56.000 racism or whatever.
00:29:57.000 There's remnants of those systems exist today.
00:30:00.000 The problem is, the solution to all of these things is totally class-based and education-based, and we don't
00:30:07.000 actually have those systems in place to solve all of these issues.
00:30:10.000 Right, so we're going to solve the class issue. I'm a big proponent of basic income.
00:30:15.000 You know, you've mentioned that you don't like this, you don't know where the money's coming from.
00:30:17.000 It's not just that.
00:30:18.000 It's, uh... Idle hands are the devil's playground, man.
00:30:22.000 You look at all these, you know, rioters.
00:30:25.000 These people who have nothing to do, nowhere to go.
00:30:28.000 When their basic needs are met, then people act a fool.
00:30:33.000 It's more than that, though.
00:30:34.000 I mean, that's one reason.
00:30:35.000 But it's ultimately about inflation.
00:30:38.000 Like, I lean towards some kind of system in that regard.
00:30:42.000 Yeah?
00:30:42.000 Tim.
00:30:43.000 It's echoing really bad.
00:30:45.000 Really?
00:30:45.000 Yeah, because we listened to that clip.
00:30:49.000 Well, it shouldn't.
00:30:51.000 There's nothing else that could cause it to echo.
00:30:53.000 I don't know what it is.
00:30:54.000 Lydia, there's a really bad echo.
00:30:56.000 Huh.
00:30:57.000 This is the note that I'm getting.
00:30:59.000 Echo on the guest mic.
00:31:00.000 What up?
00:31:02.000 It's Ian's fault.
00:31:02.000 Why is that?
00:31:04.000 I knew it.
00:31:04.000 Echo.
00:31:06.000 Oh, man.
00:31:07.000 So let's see.
00:31:08.000 Mic cord is loose or something.
00:31:11.000 Tim, you have echo, please fix.
00:31:12.000 Ugh, why does this stuff weird, weird stuff happen?
00:31:14.000 Do you want to make sure that... Yeah, you want me to know what?
00:31:16.000 The only thing I can think of is the clip that we listened to.
00:31:19.000 But was that, is that when the echo started?
00:31:21.000 There's a background mic source or open monitor on guest mics giving a massive reverb echo.
00:31:25.000 So you can say something.
00:31:26.000 Hello!
00:31:29.000 Oh, I see.
00:31:30.000 It's only... Yeah, it's... Wait, wait, switch back.
00:31:35.000 Yes, I figured it out.
00:31:37.000 Excellent.
00:31:38.000 Problem solved!
00:31:39.000 Welcome!
00:31:39.000 Sorry to interrupt.
00:31:40.000 To the echo chamber.
00:31:41.000 I think we solved it.
00:31:43.000 Alright!
00:31:44.000 Let's just wait and make sure everyone's sorry about that.
00:31:44.000 Should be good.
00:31:46.000 Give us a smash that like button.
00:31:47.000 Yes.
00:31:49.000 It was because when we switch scenes, there's different audio inputs.
00:31:53.000 Yes, so we should be good now when we go over to Ian.
00:31:56.000 Yeah.
00:31:56.000 Yeah, looks like it's fine.
00:31:57.000 Looks like it's good?
00:31:58.000 Ian looks curious.
00:31:58.000 When I'm on you, am I getting an echo?
00:32:00.000 Nope, I think we're good.
00:32:01.000 Alright!
00:32:02.000 What were we just talking about?
00:32:03.000 It's awesome stuff.
00:32:04.000 Blockbusting.
00:32:04.000 Awesome stuff.
00:32:04.000 Yeah, blockbusting.
00:32:05.000 Redlining.
00:32:06.000 Here's what I was gonna say.
00:32:08.000 We basically created, like, early on, two different train tracks.
00:32:12.000 And there's one that's a really nice fancy train, and one that's kind of just, like, built from the scraps from, like, people who just kind of pieced it together.
00:32:20.000 And we got rid of these laws where we're like, okay, everybody can freely move about these trains.
00:32:26.000 But it's very similar still to ending slavery, where you took people who had no familial wealth and no education to pass down because they were, you know, they were slaves, right?
00:32:37.000 Many of them couldn't read or write.
00:32:39.000 And so that made it very difficult.
00:32:40.000 And so this definitely disadvantages minority communities, particularly the black community.
00:32:45.000 Do you dislike the idea of spreading like death wealth?
00:32:48.000 If someone dies, that part of their money goes back to the government?
00:32:51.000 I hate that.
00:32:52.000 Yeah.
00:32:53.000 It's tough though, man.
00:32:54.000 You know, I think the big problem is government has no mechanism for fixing itself.
00:32:58.000 That's a good point.
00:33:00.000 So as much as I'd love to be like, we need cooperative systems to help make sure that, you know, we're only as strong as the weakest link.
00:33:11.000 And so if we have weak links, it's hurting everybody.
00:33:14.000 And so we really do need to figure out how to, you know, lift everybody up.
00:33:18.000 But I'll tell you this, man.
00:33:19.000 The hands-off, decentralized approach seems to be the most effective.
00:33:23.000 And that's capitalism.
00:33:25.000 Like a crypto where no humans involved in spreading it out, it just automatically goes to people?
00:33:30.000 No, I mean just straight-up capitalism.
00:33:32.000 Like, you have money, you spend stuff, you figure out what works for you.
00:33:35.000 But the problem is when they don't spend it.
00:33:37.000 When they hoard the money for interest.
00:33:39.000 I don't think that's... Yeah.
00:33:41.000 When people have unlimited access to resources and they contribute literally nothing.
00:33:45.000 I'm not a big fan of independent wealth.
00:33:48.000 It's tough, yeah.
00:33:50.000 There's a lot of people who live off doing nothing.
00:33:52.000 I was thinking about making money lose value if you don't spend it over time.
00:33:57.000 That's literally what happens.
00:33:58.000 Well, it actually gains you value because of interest.
00:34:01.000 The system as it is today for regular people, yeah, inflation, you lose money.
00:34:06.000 Oh, due to inflation.
00:34:07.000 Yeah, if you've got a little bit of money in the bank, you're not making enough interest to... But once you start making interest, then there's an incentive to hold, which I don't like.
00:34:14.000 If you could somehow make, like, a crypto that slowly lost value unless it was traded... They do.
00:34:19.000 Well, they naturally... Cryptos naturally lose value because they... Yeah, they make more of it.
00:34:25.000 Yeah, well, because they... Well, I should say, like, Bitcoin, because there's a finite amount of coins, eventually it's gonna deflate.
00:34:32.000 But anyway, the main point about all of this is that I'm not, I think, you know, Trump is a bit harsh when he says you're drinking the Kool-Aid.
00:34:41.000 I do find it hilarious.
00:34:43.000 He's not wrong.
00:34:43.000 He's not wrong.
00:34:44.000 He's being mean to the guy.
00:34:45.000 Yeah, he deserves it.
00:34:47.000 You might be right about that.
00:34:48.000 Oh, can I point out this guy's book is called Rage?
00:34:51.000 Yeah, it seems unbiased.
00:34:52.000 It sounds like a command.
00:34:54.000 Like what's he trying to get people to do?
00:34:55.000 Buy his book.
00:34:56.000 Go crazy?
00:34:57.000 Like he's telling people rage.
00:34:59.000 Anger gets clicks.
00:34:59.000 Get mad.
00:35:01.000 Well, I think he's like highlighting Trump's rage.
00:35:04.000 Yeah, he's supposed to be talking about rage, but it just looks like a command.
00:35:08.000 I'm just so, I'm just so fed up with so much of what everything about this election is, and I'm tired of being threatened and coerced.
00:35:15.000 Yeah, of course.
00:35:16.000 The Democrats right now saying, there will be violence unless you landslide Joe Biden.
00:35:21.000 Screw you.
00:35:22.000 No way, dude.
00:35:23.000 It's super ineffective.
00:35:24.000 It demeans people, makes them even like, it might even make them angry to be demeaned like that.
00:35:30.000 Told like, you can't, you can't vote for who you like because it's going to make you fail.
00:35:34.000 Look at what Kanye West was saying.
00:35:35.000 What'd he say?
00:35:36.000 He was saying that throughout his career, they told him, you're a Democrat.
00:35:39.000 And if you don't, uh, you know, support this, then we'll destroy you.
00:35:42.000 Oh my God.
00:35:43.000 Yeah.
00:35:43.000 Well, it was, I'm, I'm paraphrasing the general idea of the story, but that's certainly how a lot of people feel.
00:35:49.000 Like people, dude, I get hit up by tons of people in Hollywood.
00:35:52.000 I say tons.
00:35:52.000 Cause it's like, maybe in like just, just low double digits.
00:35:55.000 People who are like, dude, I love your stuff.
00:35:57.000 It's amazing.
00:35:58.000 And I'm like, how are you not yelling this from the mountaintops?
00:36:01.000 Like these are important things we got to talk about.
00:36:05.000 They'll get fired, man.
00:36:07.000 Oh, that's a good point.
00:36:08.000 And it's also scary to come out and speak in public if you've never done it before.
00:36:13.000 It's like a learned reaction.
00:36:14.000 I'm talking about like high-profile people who have just mass celebrity.
00:36:18.000 Dude, I'm so glad I left that industry.
00:36:19.000 I was thinking that earlier today.
00:36:21.000 I started doing YouTube and it just didn't jive with that industry at the time because they would Google my stuff and see me talking about what we're talking about now and it scared them.
00:36:29.000 You gotta fall in line.
00:36:30.000 Yeah, they really wanted that.
00:36:32.000 Yeah, it's like that song, uh, there's like a really funny cartoon I once saw, it's a music video for the song, it's like, I think it's called Little Boxes, and it's, someone did an animation, and it's basically like little kids with round, like there's little like stick figure people, they're not really stick figures, but then they go into a factory where a giant clamp smashes their heads into cubes, and then they come out like, you know, just like zombies.
00:36:54.000 Dude, I feel like that's what the public school system is doing.
00:36:56.000 Exactly.
00:36:56.000 They went to the schools, This is why it's crazy.
00:36:59.000 I feel like, you know, we've got a bunch of stories and a bunch of rhetoric coming out now about Trump being, like, the president of white America.
00:37:06.000 And you've got Brian Stelter from CNN feigning shock that Trump banned critical race theory.
00:37:12.000 Oh, I love it.
00:37:12.000 And you can tell the dude has no idea what critical race theory is.
00:37:15.000 I know what it is.
00:37:16.000 Can you enlighten us?
00:37:17.000 What is critical race theory?
00:37:18.000 Yeah.
00:37:18.000 Can you give us a definition?
00:37:20.000 Critical race theory is basically our concept of intersectionality, and they make it as confusing as humanly possible.
00:37:26.000 Because the whole point is to criticize what you're talking about, and this can be any kind of theory.
00:37:30.000 So any critical, like critical literature theory, is where you go into literature not to read it and learn about the culture that came before you, but to criticize it and find problems with it.
00:37:39.000 It's an issue.
00:37:40.000 So you're looking for problems in something.
00:37:42.000 Exactly.
00:37:43.000 Seems like a great way to live, right?
00:37:44.000 There's no real simple way to define critical race theory, and it's intentional.
00:37:48.000 So I can pull up the Wikipedia right here and it's just like overly verbose.
00:37:52.000 Yes, this is postmodernism.
00:37:54.000 It's hard to explain.
00:37:54.000 They literally say it is, they mention it's postmodern philosophy, developed out of postmodern philosophy.
00:38:00.000 So one of the things they do is, oh, you know what?
00:38:02.000 Have you ever seen the movie Coneheads?
00:38:04.000 No, I heard you guys talking about it yesterday.
00:38:06.000 But you know what it is, right?
00:38:08.000 Dan Aykroyd.
00:38:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:10.000 And so I don't know if you've ever seen that comic where the aliens, it's like the little blue purple aliens, and they're like looking at a cat eating food.
00:38:18.000 And they were like, the small mammal we have captured is consuming hydrocarbons.
00:38:22.000 We are very pleased by this.
00:38:24.000 And people love these comics.
00:38:26.000 And I see these and I'm like, they're just, that's just coneheads.
00:38:29.000 Coneheads is an old Saturday Night Live sketch.
00:38:32.000 They made a movie, you know, like Lorne Michaels, SNL, and it's about these aliens who they have coneheads, and the way they talk is, like, instead of calling something a cookie, they would call it a chocolate-infused hydrocarbon mass.
00:38:44.000 I see you are eating a chocolate-infused hydrocarbon mass.
00:38:46.000 I will consume this too.
00:38:47.000 And that was the joke, like overly verbose explanations.
00:38:51.000 That's literally what critical race theorist people do.
00:38:54.000 Oh, wow.
00:38:55.000 Easier to fill 50 minutes of a class when you're taking three times longer.
00:38:58.000 Great point, yeah.
00:39:00.000 You know what's funny?
00:39:00.000 It's like college, they'd be like, I want you to write, you know, a thousand words.
00:39:04.000 It's like writing an essay.
00:39:05.000 Right, right, right.
00:39:06.000 I want you to write a thousand words on, you know, this globe and they would be like, well, I'll just use a hundred adjectives to describe what it is.
00:39:13.000 Instead of saying it's a solar powered moving globe, we'll say it is a electromagnetically induced rotation device.
00:39:25.000 Einstein would make a big deal about explaining things as simply as possible.
00:39:29.000 If you can't explain something simple, then you're not able to get it done.
00:39:34.000 Let me explain to a five-year-old. I'll read you a couple things. They say firstly
00:39:38.000 Critical race theory proposes that white supremacy and racial power are maintained over time and in particular
00:39:44.000 Read it.
00:39:44.000 that the law may play a role in this process. Secondly, critical race theory work has investigated
00:39:48.000 the possibility of transforming the relationship between law and racial power, as well as pursuing
00:39:53.000 a project of achieving racial emancipation and anti-subordination more broadly.
00:39:57.000 But here's my favorite part. White. White is property.
00:40:02.000 What does that mean?
00:40:03.000 Read it.
00:40:04.000 White is property.
00:40:05.000 Whiteness is property.
00:40:07.000 Yeah.
00:40:07.000 From the CRT perspective.
00:40:09.000 The white skin that some Americans possess is akin to owning a piece of property in that it grants privileges to the owner that a renter, in this case a person of color, would not be afforded.
00:40:22.000 So we We, I say, but someone with white skin, which technically it's not actually white.
00:40:26.000 It's a VIP ticket.
00:40:27.000 Yeah, you own it, but with someone, if it's a person of color, they're just renting their body.
00:40:31.000 I mean, this is the metaphor.
00:40:32.000 You can rent skin?
00:40:34.000 This is nonsense.
00:40:34.000 This is amazing.
00:40:35.000 What the heck?
00:40:36.000 No, no, no.
00:40:36.000 They're basically saying is that white people have a piece of property, like a VIP pass.
00:40:42.000 I mean, I'm in debt to the country.
00:40:46.000 I'm still in debt to the bank, the Federal Reserve Bank.
00:40:49.000 No, no, no.
00:40:50.000 Ian, you're white.
00:40:52.000 But you're a white male!
00:40:53.000 Oh, so I don't have debt.
00:40:54.000 Yeah, it's good to know, right?
00:40:56.000 You're a white male.
00:40:56.000 It's very liberating.
00:40:57.000 Just calm up and let them know.
00:40:58.000 Just say, hey, bank, just want to let you know I'm white.
00:41:00.000 Oh, I'm so sorry about that.
00:41:01.000 We'll wipe your debt clean.
00:41:02.000 Oh, OK.
00:41:03.000 Oh, man, Ian.
00:41:04.000 Think about it.
00:41:05.000 Thank you.
00:41:07.000 So let's do this.
00:41:08.000 Let's talk about the natural conclusions, right?
00:41:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, this is what's actually happening in...
00:41:16.000 Did you see this?
00:41:18.000 Oh, I have.
00:41:19.000 University campus hosts White's Only Cafe in the name of equality.
00:41:23.000 Let's give a round of applause for the writers of the 2020 season.
00:41:28.000 I gotta admit, you know, Adam Schiff came out with this tweet saying there was Russian interference.
00:41:33.000 You guys saw this, right?
00:41:35.000 Yeah, so he's like, we got a whistleblower report that there was Russian interference and Trump was downplaying it.
00:41:40.000 And I tweeted like, oh, come on.
00:41:43.000 The writers are getting so lazy.
00:41:45.000 This is just a reboot of Russiagate 1.
00:41:47.000 They keep doing this.
00:41:48.000 Oh, I thought you were talking about Russiagate 1.
00:41:50.000 No, he just tweeted it today.
00:41:52.000 Oh, man.
00:41:52.000 So anyway, I digress.
00:41:54.000 The point is, You know, the season, it's like we're getting reruns.
00:41:58.000 What is it?
00:41:59.000 The gender reveal party starts a fire?
00:42:00.000 Yes!
00:42:01.000 This is the second instance of a gender reveal explosive device sparking a fire in California that burned hundreds of acres.
00:42:06.000 Really?
00:42:06.000 Yeah, first one was in a while ago, but this is the second time it's happened.
00:42:10.000 Not this year, but this is our second occurrence.
00:42:12.000 What?
00:42:12.000 Yes.
00:42:13.000 Yeah, I know.
00:42:14.000 So somebody did a gender reveal, started a big fire, somebody did it again.
00:42:18.000 Yeah, they say history repeats itself.
00:42:19.000 In fact, correct.
00:42:20.000 Yeah, but come on, not in like this short a time frame.
00:42:22.000 Well, maybe time's speeding up.
00:42:24.000 I think so.
00:42:24.000 Well, maybe but I'll tell you what everybody here we have the next step in
00:42:29.000 So all of that stuff is filler, you know They're like giving us these filler episodes of 2020 and we're
00:42:36.000 like we did the gender reveal wildfires Can we can we get the story? Yes, I don't like it
00:42:41.000 Oh, how inclusive!
00:42:41.000 I know, I love it!
00:42:42.000 of Color Cafe is a space for students that do not identify as persons of color to gather and to
00:42:47.000 discuss their experience as students on campus and as non-POC in the world. Hosted by the Center for
00:42:52.000 Social Justice and Inclusion. Oh how inclusive. I know I love it. Excellent. If you're of African
00:42:58.000 American descent but you don't identify as someone of color you could go there.
00:43:02.000 Exactly.
00:43:02.000 No, no.
00:43:02.000 You found the loophole.
00:43:03.000 But it's all about how the way you identify, according to this.
00:43:06.000 I mean, I guess, but I'd imagine that the whites-only cafe would be like, you're clearly not welcome here.
00:43:11.000 This is brutal, dude.
00:43:12.000 So what are they gonna do, throw you out?
00:43:14.000 Dude, my favorite thing in this, like, you know what, man?
00:43:18.000 You know what the meme of clown world is?
00:43:21.000 Yeah.
00:43:22.000 That, like, the current history is so absurd, it certainly must have been written by clowns.
00:43:28.000 Okay.
00:43:29.000 You know, it's like the writers of The Simpsons, and they're like, ooh, I got a really great idea for an episode.
00:43:34.000 It's gonna be hilarious.
00:43:35.000 They do a whites-only cafe, and it's hosted by the Social Justice and Inclusion Center.
00:43:40.000 That's perfect comedy.
00:43:43.000 It's irony.
00:43:44.000 It's pure- It's absurdity.
00:43:45.000 It's literally a fire truck driving around spraying flamethrowers and burning buildings down.
00:43:50.000 I don't think they realize that this is racist.
00:43:52.000 The people that created it.
00:43:55.000 I think there are people who know it's racist and are very happy about it.
00:43:59.000 Oh, really?
00:43:59.000 Yeah.
00:44:00.000 You think it's insidious?
00:44:02.000 Yes.
00:44:02.000 Like, it could be that this stuff's getting funded by someone that wants to create division, like, from the top of the top of the top, like, Chinese government or whoever.
00:44:10.000 I mean, it's total conspiracy theories.
00:44:11.000 I myself have not read White Fragility, and I probably should, but I'm just right.
00:44:17.000 I don't wanna.
00:44:18.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:44:19.000 Yeah, book on tape.
00:44:20.000 Yeah, I guess.
00:44:21.000 But I'm pretty sure, doesn't she say that she's uncomfortable around minorities?
00:44:25.000 She did, yeah.
00:44:25.000 Wasn't she the one who said that when she walked into a room that was majority-minority?
00:44:29.000 That she would clutch her purse more tightly?
00:44:31.000 Is that what she said?
00:44:32.000 That is something that a racist does.
00:44:34.000 I should look up the quote.
00:44:35.000 I just gotta read the book.
00:44:36.000 Sorry.
00:44:37.000 I think you have avowed racists like Robin DiAngelo and some of these other people.
00:44:42.000 They know exactly what they're doing and they like it.
00:44:46.000 They want white only space.
00:44:48.000 Listen, this white fragility lady, white fragility is a nationwide bestseller right now.
00:44:53.000 This is why I'm like, we need Trump.
00:44:54.000 Trump's got a really, he can't do everything because this is in our culture, but he can do a lot for now.
00:45:01.000 And I'm worried if Biden wins, Biden's negotiating with these people and entertaining these ideas.
00:45:06.000 Robin DiAngelo said when she goes into a room, she gets full of, you know, marginalized people.
00:45:12.000 I'll use that language.
00:45:13.000 She gets uncomfortable.
00:45:14.000 Wouldn't she feel more comfortable in a room for only white people then?
00:45:18.000 Is that the logic?
00:45:19.000 She's straight up saying she is not comfortable around people who aren't white.
00:45:23.000 And then all of a sudden, now these universities, which probably read these books because it was a bestseller, are creating spaces where she'll feel more comfortable.
00:45:31.000 Oh, man.
00:45:32.000 So you're appealing to their neuroses, apparently, which could be very detrimental.
00:45:39.000 I mean, OK, we're comfortable with what we know.
00:45:42.000 I get that.
00:45:43.000 So if you're unfamiliar with someone because of the color of their skin, if you're surrounded by all black people your whole life and then you go and there's white people around, maybe that will be just new.
00:45:54.000 So there's a discomfort because it's new.
00:45:57.000 Or because it's cultural differences.
00:45:59.000 Yeah, of course.
00:46:00.000 They're eating soup and you've only eaten meat your whole life.
00:46:02.000 So it's like, I'm nervous about that.
00:46:05.000 I went to an event in Norway and they were serving whale.
00:46:08.000 Did you eat it?
00:46:09.000 I had a tiny piece.
00:46:10.000 What was it like?
00:46:10.000 It was awful.
00:46:11.000 It's mammal.
00:46:12.000 And, you know, it is, it is.
00:46:14.000 And so when I went there, I was actually kind of shocked to see it.
00:46:18.000 But it's normal there.
00:46:20.000 And they had a big plate of it.
00:46:21.000 And I was like, whoa, just like, no way, dude, I'm not going anywhere near that.
00:46:24.000 And they were like, it's totally normal.
00:46:25.000 And it was like pickled or something.
00:46:27.000 And they're like putting it on bread and mustard or mayonnaise or something on it.
00:46:30.000 And I was just adamant.
00:46:31.000 I'm not going to eat it.
00:46:32.000 And then they convinced me to at least taste it.
00:46:35.000 And it was awful.
00:46:36.000 And I was unhappy about it.
00:46:37.000 And I'm like, it's an American cultural thing to say F no to eating whale.
00:46:42.000 That we won't do that.
00:46:43.000 So when I was I was uncomfortable.
00:46:45.000 It was kind of weird.
00:46:46.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:46:47.000 The whales are the great sages of the of the earth, man.
00:46:50.000 One of them.
00:46:51.000 But I mean, I understand like whaling in the past.
00:46:54.000 But it is a major cultural difference.
00:46:56.000 So anyway, the reason I bring that up is, if you grew up in... This really is a great perspective into what these people are doing.
00:47:06.000 You hear these stories, right?
00:47:07.000 There was one woman, she was like, all on Twitter, they're talking about privilege.
00:47:11.000 They're like, when I was, you know, 20, I got drunk and crashed my car and the cop gave me a slap on the wrist.
00:47:16.000 And I'm like, yes, and you lived in, you know, the Berkshires, like you lived in Long Island and the Hamptons, and you had a very wealthy family and the cops were, someone stuffed a lot of cash into the, you know, the right person's pocket.
00:47:27.000 And you're not going to get in trouble because you're a rich person, not because you're white, because you were rich.
00:47:31.000 Shoot, bail is a, the whole system, ever since they would ransom prisoners from like ancient warfare, it was all about taking a Duke prisoner and then ransoming off immediately.
00:47:41.000 If he could afford it, otherwise they sit in prison.
00:47:43.000 So, bail's the same way.
00:47:44.000 You can buy your way out of jail.
00:47:46.000 Well, temporarily.
00:47:47.000 Yeah, temporarily.
00:47:47.000 It could be a year and a half until your case, you know?
00:47:50.000 Right.
00:47:50.000 Yup.
00:47:51.000 Seriously.
00:47:52.000 So, they've had these knee-jerk reactions in New York with cashless bail, which has resulted in criminals laughing and walking out and committing more crimes.
00:48:00.000 What is it, exactly?
00:48:02.000 It was something like non-violent crimes would be no cash bail, because they argued it wasn't fair that you would put a monetary value on whether someone has a right to continue their life while they're, you know, not proven guilty yet.
00:48:14.000 And you know, I agree with the sentiment.
00:48:16.000 I just think they, in practice, they screwed everything up and they did it horrible, horribly wrong.
00:48:20.000 And I think there should have been a trial period on specific, like one or two specific instances, or it should have just been straight up case-by-case basis.
00:48:27.000 But there's a good point to be made about bail systems and how it disproportionately affects poor people.
00:48:34.000 You go to jail and they say you gotta spend 600 bucks to get out and you don't have it.
00:48:39.000 You lose your job, you lose your apartment.
00:48:40.000 You lose your job!
00:48:41.000 That's crazy!
00:48:43.000 So there are challenges there.
00:48:44.000 But then what do we do?
00:48:46.000 I don't know!
00:48:46.000 I've often said I would prefer to err on the side of freedom.
00:48:50.000 In which case, it is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer, right?
00:48:55.000 The only problem is that in New York where they did this, they also take away your right to self-defense.
00:48:59.000 So if you're going to release criminals who are going to go around committing crimes, and you're also telling people that defense is restricted as well, you're creating a likelihood of crimes to be committed and an inability of individuals to protect their homes, their friends, and their families.
00:49:14.000 So it's kind of like I think, you know, hardcore authoritarianism is the wrong direction.
00:49:20.000 But anyway, the general point I'm trying to make about all this is just they conflate race with cash.
00:49:27.000 It's totally a class thing.
00:49:29.000 So I get what you mean with letting a prisoner out if they can't afford it.
00:49:33.000 What's the incentive of not just going right back if they're just going to let you ride out again?
00:49:37.000 Going back to where, what do you mean?
00:49:38.000 Jail.
00:49:39.000 They let you out because you don't need to pay bail because you can't afford it, so they do some social thing where they just let you out anyway.
00:49:44.000 That's what they've been doing.
00:49:44.000 Yeah.
00:49:45.000 And especially with COVID, they released all these people and they all went and committed crimes and a lot of them were rioting.
00:49:49.000 Oh, that's gruesome.
00:49:50.000 Yeah, man.
00:49:51.000 Jeez.
00:49:52.000 It's almost like class warfare makes sense in a way, but it doesn't make sense.
00:49:56.000 No, no, it doesn't make sense.
00:49:57.000 But no one should not have the ability to have money or status or whatever it is.
00:50:03.000 Power.
00:50:04.000 I think there is a serious question around a poor person being told they gotta pay cash bail.
00:50:10.000 So it's tough.
00:50:11.000 It really is, man.
00:50:12.000 These are hard ethical questions to figure out.
00:50:15.000 The safety of the community versus the freedom of the individual and the rights of the individual.
00:50:20.000 Because we're wild animals.
00:50:21.000 Humans are, you know, apes that have...
00:50:25.000 I think the issue is scale.
00:50:27.000 So if you think back to like, I don't know, 1700s or even before then, you had a much, much less dense population.
00:50:35.000 And so much less, you know, very few people were in these circumstances.
00:50:39.000 Now, the problem is we're going to have, what, several hundred per week or per day who might be innocent?
00:50:46.000 The scale of, uh...
00:50:48.000 You know, rights being trampled over, that's getting crazy.
00:50:50.000 But also think about, if there was some dude who was accused of a crime, and he got arrested, and they said, you gotta pay bail, I'll tell you what, we'll do cashless bail, just promise to come back, which they probably wouldn't have done way back then.
00:51:02.000 But everybody's armed, it's, you know, farms out in the middle of nowhere, they're all assuming they gotta protect themselves anyway.
00:51:08.000 Now we've got people in big cities stacked on top of each other, everything smells like sour milk, and they're fighting all the time.
00:51:14.000 And when I say fighting all the time, I don't mean that's, like, getting worse.
00:51:16.000 Actually, violent crime is going down.
00:51:18.000 But crime in general still exists.
00:51:20.000 And if you have more people, you will have more crime.
00:51:24.000 Yeah.
00:51:24.000 Then you're gonna have more people getting arrested, and sometimes innocent people get arrested.
00:51:28.000 So, the challenge now is, is it better that ten innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape?
00:51:34.000 No.
00:51:35.000 That's the authoritarian approach.
00:51:36.000 No, yeah.
00:51:37.000 It is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
00:51:40.000 But anyway, we're going off on a tangent.
00:51:42.000 This is more of an ethical discussion.
00:51:46.000 The point I was basically bringing up about everything they're doing is that when they talk about how they got away with committing crimes, because they are racists, they assume race is the driving factor for human motivation.
00:51:59.000 So here's the important way to frame it.
00:52:02.000 People's perception about what is happening in the world is based on how they view them, like how they themselves work in the world, right?
00:52:11.000 So if somebody in a white, progressive, upper-class neighborhood gets into a car accident while they're drunk, and the cop comes up and says, uh-oh, we're gonna let you off with a warning, you know, this is the mayor's daughter, or whatever, or like, this is the daughter of a high-powered lawyer, we're not gonna get into it, we're gonna let you go, Because they are racists themselves, and because they judge people based on race, they assume they're being judged based on their race as well.
00:52:39.000 Get it?
00:52:39.000 Yeah.
00:52:40.000 So what's happening here is that these people are actually closeted racists.
00:52:44.000 Closeted?
00:52:46.000 Work with me.
00:52:47.000 They have underlying racism and because they were privileged and they had this class advantage, they're like fish in water.
00:52:54.000 They don't even see it.
00:52:55.000 So that when it comes out that they actually had a leg up, they're like, well, obviously this is because of my race.
00:53:01.000 Exactly.
00:53:01.000 It must be.
00:53:02.000 What else could it be?
00:53:03.000 Do you remember that guy?
00:53:04.000 To hammer everything looks like a nail.
00:53:06.000 Oh, that's brutal.
00:53:07.000 That's true.
00:53:07.000 Give a man a gun and what the heck?
00:53:10.000 What is that saying?
00:53:12.000 Give a man a fish.
00:53:13.000 That's the metaphor.
00:53:15.000 And what the heck?
00:53:16.000 Do you remember that kid who got arrested for drunk driving?
00:53:20.000 I think he might've killed someone even, and then they let him go for affluence.
00:53:23.000 He got off affluenza.
00:53:24.000 Affluenza.
00:53:25.000 He was too rich.
00:53:26.000 He didn't know what was good for him.
00:53:28.000 Talk about messed up, man.
00:53:30.000 What the heck?
00:53:31.000 Yeah, class, bro.
00:53:32.000 Class is a thing.
00:53:34.000 And underclass.
00:53:35.000 This is why I was talking about the Russian Revolution, man.
00:53:37.000 If you ignore the underclass for too long, which is why I like Donald Trump, at least speaking out against it.
00:53:41.000 And I'm a little afraid against... I don't want to get too emotional about Biden, but just people that aren't there, people that are kind of vacant to the issues.
00:53:48.000 The underclass will connect on some dangers, which is kind of what we're looking at.
00:53:53.000 I think it's a lot of poor people out on the street rioting.
00:53:55.000 I don't know for sure.
00:53:56.000 Not necessarily.
00:53:57.000 In New York, it was several rich people.
00:54:00.000 Yeah, rich daughter.
00:54:01.000 Yep, they're bored rich kids.
00:54:03.000 That's what I was saying.
00:54:04.000 Yeah, this is affluenza.
00:54:06.000 They're rich people.
00:54:07.000 So that's the saying, to a hammer everything looks like a nail.
00:54:10.000 To a racist, everything is predicated upon race.
00:54:12.000 Wow.
00:54:13.000 So when you have people like, you know what, I'm not gonna name people.
00:54:16.000 I could.
00:54:17.000 Because a lot of these people, like, we're straight up saying things.
00:54:20.000 Talking about their privilege and getting away with things because of their skin color.
00:54:23.000 And I'm like, wow.
00:54:24.000 I never perceived that.
00:54:26.000 I grew up in a mixed area, and when crimes were committed and things happened, you could not assume it was based on race, because everybody was a different race!
00:54:35.000 Everybody had different skin color, different parents, some people had an accent, some people didn't.
00:54:39.000 So when something would happen, you couldn't see a pattern in that.
00:54:42.000 But when you get people like Robyn D'Angelo just telling you over and over again, remember that time that cop let you go?
00:54:47.000 It's because of your race.
00:54:49.000 And then the young girl goes, oh, meanwhile her dad's writing a check to the mayor and he's like, this would never happen, you know what I mean?
00:54:55.000 So this kind of thinking is contagious because Robyn D'Angelo is a racist and she's talking to people who are in higher classes, who have the class advantage.
00:55:05.000 So this might be something that they never thought about before, but now that she's telling them, they're like, oh, Maybe there's something to this because I have noticed that I do have an advantage.
00:55:13.000 And she wrote a book, so she has clout.
00:55:15.000 She has a PhD, man.
00:55:16.000 Yeah, all of a sudden her words have more meaning, I guess, right?
00:55:19.000 I know.
00:55:19.000 No, I'm being sarcastic, but I think that that's a kind of a brainwashy thing that someone with a PhD or that wrote a book has more meaning in their words.
00:55:27.000 Somebody said, what was the goal, you know, what is the end goal of critical race theory?
00:55:31.000 And it's to leverage white guilt for money.
00:55:33.000 Oh, brutal.
00:55:34.000 Yeah.
00:55:35.000 That seems to be the thing.
00:55:36.000 I mean, you know, giving these really high cost, expensive seminars, writing these books, regurgitating these crackpot ideas.
00:55:45.000 So people are paying money to go to school to be told that they're a racist.
00:55:48.000 Yes.
00:55:49.000 That's insanity.
00:55:50.000 That's a racket, man.
00:55:51.000 I love it.
00:55:52.000 That's a dangerous racket, too.
00:55:54.000 Did you see the video of the morbidly obese woman?
00:55:57.000 And she's got the PayPal thing next to her?
00:56:00.000 Yeah.
00:56:01.000 People are saying that's the perfect example of critical race theory.
00:56:03.000 In the video, she's yelling at people.
00:56:05.000 She's like, you know, I think that, you know, white people aren't human and you're all demons.
00:56:10.000 So I'm like, why are these people sitting here taking that?
00:56:12.000 That was so weird to me.
00:56:13.000 She was like, I'm not saying this to be mean, but I actually think you're all demons.
00:56:19.000 That's not just her.
00:56:20.000 And they were just sitting there placidly taking it.
00:56:23.000 What is their history?
00:56:26.000 I gotta know their individual histories.
00:56:28.000 Let's talk about some of the news that's sweeping the country, all right?
00:56:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump recently announced he's gonna be banning critical race theory from federal trainings and stuff, and of course the left-wing media came out and were like, Trump's making things up.
00:56:42.000 It's a right-wing tempest.
00:56:44.000 It's not real.
00:56:45.000 It is a very serious problem.
00:56:47.000 It does exist and there are real examples.
00:56:49.000 They just don't bother to Google search.
00:56:52.000 But I want to show you this story from the Atlantic.
00:56:53.000 They write, For the first time, America may have an anti-racist majority.
00:56:59.000 Not since Reconstruction has there been an opportunity for the advancement of racial justice.
00:57:05.000 What does justice mean?
00:57:06.000 Well... What is racial justice?
00:57:08.000 There's that meme where the one guy has a box, they all have boxes, but one guy's tall and one guy's short, and the short guy can't see over the fence, so you give the tall guy's box to the short guy, and then the short guy has two boxes, but then they can all see over the fence.
00:57:20.000 What if the tall guy on his box liked the breeze?
00:57:24.000 Right, then who's right is it to take it?
00:57:25.000 I think he gave it over to his own volition, but that's the part you don't see.
00:57:28.000 No, no, no, no.
00:57:29.000 Is it just to say, hey, maybe you like the breeze, but he can't see and it's more important than the way you feel?
00:57:34.000 So we have talked about this image before.
00:57:36.000 You've got three people standing up against a fence and they're all standing on a box.
00:57:41.000 The tall guy and the medium guy can see the baseball game and the short guy can't.
00:57:45.000 And so then what they do is they take, as you mentioned, the box and the tall guy, give it to the short guy, and now they're all standing there at equal level watching the baseball game.
00:57:52.000 One of my favorite responses to that is, they're stealing because they didn't pay.
00:57:56.000 But actually, my favorite response is, the fence is really high, no one can see anything but the tall guy, and then the tall guy has his legs cut off, and he's on stumps and there's blood everywhere.
00:58:08.000 And that's a better description of what they're talking about, and I'll explain it to you.
00:58:12.000 What is the societal equivalent of a box?
00:58:15.000 Money.
00:58:16.000 Well, no.
00:58:17.000 You can't quantify it.
00:58:19.000 Because they're talking about racial privileges.
00:58:22.000 Right?
00:58:22.000 They're not talking about cash.
00:58:23.000 I don't know.
00:58:23.000 It's like, who can see the game?
00:58:24.000 Whoever can afford to buy the ticket?
00:58:25.000 They're saying straight up that a homeless white person is an oppressor and a wealthy black woman is oppressed.
00:58:30.000 Money is not the factor.
00:58:31.000 The factor is skin color and the ability to function in society or something like that.
00:58:35.000 Oh, okay.
00:58:35.000 In which case, the only way to come about with real equity is to, you know, chop someone's legs off.
00:58:41.000 If you're tall, we can't make short people tall, but we can make the one tall person short.
00:58:45.000 Get it?
00:58:46.000 And then they'll figure out a different way to view the game together because you've stripped.
00:58:49.000 Oh, then nobody can see the game.
00:58:50.000 Yeah, unless they figure out a way to build a portal to all watch it.
00:58:53.000 Like it's going to incentivize the tall guy to figure out a way to get them to all see the game.
00:58:57.000 That's what you're saying.
00:58:58.000 There's a bunch of memes.
00:58:58.000 One of them is like the libertarian one is there's no fence.
00:59:01.000 And like, that's a good, nothing matters.
00:59:04.000 And there's one where it's like the fence is a chain link fence, so it doesn't matter
00:59:07.000 either.
00:59:08.000 And that was like the engineer's response or something like that.
00:59:10.000 There's a bunch of funny answers to this.
00:59:12.000 It's kind of dumb.
00:59:13.000 But this is what I want to show you.
00:59:14.000 What does it mean to have an anti-racist majority in this country?
00:59:18.000 What is the goal?
00:59:20.000 Welcome to Twitter.
00:59:21.000 This is FJ, the real racist, Feminista Jones.
00:59:25.000 Who is this lady?
00:59:25.000 She is Nathan Morris of Boyz II Men Gave Me a Rose.
00:59:29.000 I don't know what that means, but she has 173,500 followers.
00:59:33.000 Here's what she tweeted in a thread over a week ago, and Twitter allows this to remain on the platform.
00:59:41.000 Interesting.
00:59:41.000 She said, begging white people to support Black Lives Matter and related work has diluted the integrity of true revolutionary work.
00:59:47.000 I still don't get why folks were so focused on getting mainstream support when it only means the inevitable destruction of the movement.
00:59:54.000 White people, no matter how liberal or progressive, will never endorse revolutionary acts that may jeopardize their children's lives.
01:00:01.000 That's true.
01:00:02.000 As such, They will never fully support a black liberation revolution by way of violent rebellion.
01:00:08.000 Nope, nah, not gonna happen.
01:00:10.000 She goes on to say that violence is the only way, of course.
01:00:12.000 No votes, no marching, no spots on cable news, no high fashion magazine cover stories, no hashtags, no panels.
01:00:18.000 None of that is going to bring about the liberation black folks deserve.
01:00:23.000 That's been up since August 27th.
01:00:26.000 A call for violence.
01:00:29.000 Overt violence.
01:00:30.000 Because it's not a, what do they call it, a call.
01:00:35.000 It's not like, let's go commit violence on this day at this time.
01:00:38.000 It's not specific.
01:00:39.000 Yeah.
01:00:40.000 Yeah, it has no specific target.
01:00:41.000 It doesn't violate the terms.
01:00:42.000 At least that's what it minds.
01:00:44.000 So you have experience moderating stuff.
01:00:46.000 Yeah.
01:00:46.000 Would you get rid of a post like that?
01:00:47.000 No, because it doesn't call for imminent violence.
01:00:51.000 That's where you draw the line is if they're saying at this time, we're going to do this at this time.
01:00:55.000 If they're saying get angry, blow stuff up, it's just not imminent violence.
01:00:59.000 It's not grounds for termination.
01:01:00.000 I'll be honest, you know, I agree.
01:01:01.000 I hear what you're saying.
01:01:03.000 And I'm actually glad that she's posted it and it's allowed to remain.
01:01:06.000 I'm glad to see it.
01:01:07.000 Because now we know what at least some of these people are thinking.
01:01:10.000 I mean, this woman is verified on Twitter with 173,500 followers saying, gotta get violent.
01:01:18.000 Is that Betsy?
01:01:19.000 Yeah, it's Betsy.
01:01:20.000 She wants to join the show.
01:01:21.000 She's joining us, yeah.
01:01:23.000 Normally Ian's not in the room, so she's hanging out with you.
01:01:28.000 So here's what she says.
01:01:29.000 She says, Folks only understand violence in its Eurocentric framing and definition.
01:01:34.000 Same as liberation, if we're being honest.
01:01:36.000 So you hear violence and you already have a picture of what it looks like and you've been conditioned to reject it out of fear.
01:01:41.000 What if I told you the violence required is liberating?
01:01:44.000 What if I told you that there is no way for a dislocated, displaced African to truly live free without the complete destruction of whiteness?
01:01:52.000 Occupation of space in our minds, bodies, souls, and communities.
01:01:56.000 Do you know what whiteness means?
01:01:57.000 No.
01:01:58.000 Their definition, hard work, scheduling, time, planning for the future.
01:02:03.000 OK.
01:02:03.000 That's whiteness.
01:02:04.000 Diligence?
01:02:05.000 Oh, definitely.
01:02:06.000 Definitely.
01:02:07.000 The crazy thing about this is it's not.
01:02:09.000 Like, there are African cultures that have hard work and time and schedules.
01:02:13.000 Insanely racist to say that.
01:02:15.000 Yeah.
01:02:15.000 I mean, especially if you go by, you know, the out of Africa theory and they say that Africa was the cradle of humanity or whatever.
01:02:22.000 I've heard some people say that there's actually evidence humanity may have come from other places or been in other places earlier.
01:02:27.000 The point is, if the prevailing theory right now suggests that humans started in Africa and succeeded greatly, then wouldn't it be hard work and perseverance as a trait of blackness?
01:02:38.000 It's a human trait.
01:02:40.000 I definitely think it's a human trait.
01:02:41.000 It tends towards survivability and success, you know, group, community, function.
01:02:47.000 And you need it.
01:02:47.000 This is Betsy's tail, by the way.
01:02:48.000 That's Betsy.
01:02:49.000 Oh, you can see her.
01:02:50.000 I'm like, she's in the headlight.
01:02:51.000 Yeah.
01:02:52.000 After the Great Flood, 12,800 years ago, you know, the cometary impact, the Great Flood, from all that.
01:02:57.000 Is that real?
01:02:59.000 Yeah, according to like geologists, Randall Carlson particularly.
01:03:02.000 Almost every culture agrees on some kind of great flood.
01:03:04.000 Nuclear glass in the melt water in the dirt at that time.
01:03:08.000 What?
01:03:08.000 Really cool, really cool evidence.
01:03:10.000 No way.
01:03:10.000 I'd have to pull up facts to really convince you, I'm sure.
01:03:12.000 Probably, yeah.
01:03:13.000 Assuming that there was a great flood, humanity recollected in that area.
01:03:16.000 So I don't know if all humans came from the cradle, but it seems like that's where society rebooted.
01:03:22.000 I was reading that there were like 10 humans that like created all of humanity or something.
01:03:26.000 Whoa.
01:03:26.000 You know, I like to believe instead, though, that, you know, it's actually, like, you ever see Battlestar Galactica?
01:03:30.000 Yeah.
01:03:31.000 How at the end of the series, they, like, they made it to an Earth-like planet?
01:03:34.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:34.000 There you go.
01:03:34.000 That's what really happened.
01:03:35.000 We just, it's Battlestar Galactica.
01:03:37.000 We're on season 2020 of Battlestar.
01:03:41.000 That's where we're at.
01:03:41.000 You think that Earth was seeded by fungus?
01:03:46.000 That panspermia theory where fungus just shot across the universe and pelted all the oceans?
01:03:51.000 I don't know about all that, but I can say that it has nothing to do with violence.
01:03:56.000 We gotta start from the top!
01:03:58.000 I guess we do, huh?
01:04:00.000 Yeah, violence, the rise of violence, what they claim to be is anti-racist when they're specifically talking about people of a certain race being violent to liberate themselves, to feel good about it.
01:04:10.000 I think the problem is that you're blaming any one species or any one race.
01:04:16.000 Even, you know, we're all in this together as a human race.
01:04:19.000 We function better in a group regardless of our skin or the way we look or smell or sound or any of that stuff.
01:04:25.000 I think you're entirely correct.
01:04:26.000 And this is something interesting.
01:04:27.000 This is an example of a dangerous idea.
01:04:29.000 And I think that she should be free to say it, obviously, because I want to know exactly what people are thinking.
01:04:34.000 But that doesn't mean it's less of a dangerous idea.
01:04:37.000 And the fact that she is free to say it means that now other people might be able to adopt what she's thinking and go with it.
01:04:43.000 It makes an argument for censorship.
01:04:46.000 And like, is sometimes censorship valuable?
01:04:48.000 Well, then you get into the question, the fundamental question underneath every kind of censorship is who decides?
01:04:54.000 Oh, that's brutal.
01:04:55.000 And that's always the question.
01:04:56.000 And you can say it's going to be a Christian conservative.
01:04:59.000 Not everyone's going to like that.
01:05:00.000 You can say it's going to be an atheist and the Christians are going to be shut out.
01:05:03.000 Or you can say it's going to be somebody like this lady.
01:05:05.000 Or a group, because even groups can go crazy.
01:05:05.000 That's dangerous, too.
01:05:07.000 Right, exactly.
01:05:09.000 Or it might be some random Wemmickson.
01:05:11.000 Oh gosh, yeah.
01:05:12.000 That's more likely.
01:05:12.000 Women's and how could I forget?
01:05:14.000 So I'm definitely going to, we're definitely going to talk about this too in a similar
01:05:17.000 context.
01:05:18.000 When the Atlantic writes an article, which to be honest, like we didn't actually read
01:05:21.000 it so I'm not trying to...
01:05:22.000 Yeah, it's not worth the time.
01:05:23.000 Well, no, what I'm saying is, it is, it's important to read all this stuff.
01:05:26.000 I'm not presenting the criticism in the context of what the argument from the article is.
01:05:30.000 I'm presenting in the context of the ideas of anti-racism and what we actually get is
01:05:35.000 this insane critical theory which encompasses so many other things.
01:05:38.000 So when Donald Trump says something like you've drank the Kool-Aid, Donald Trump banned critical
01:05:43.000 race theory, but what about critical gender theory?
01:05:46.000 You know, what about all of these different theories?
01:05:49.000 Which brings me to Wemmickson, one of my favorite words in the made-up, you know, English language.
01:05:56.000 I'm sure at some point it'll end up in the dictionary because dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster tend to be woke.
01:06:00.000 Oh, who owns those?
01:06:02.000 Who decides that stuff?
01:06:03.000 I was wondering that a couple days ago.
01:06:04.000 I don't know, I'm gonna have to look that up.
01:06:05.000 I don't know.
01:06:07.000 That's weird that we just accept it and we don't know who writes it.
01:06:11.000 We're just changing words now.
01:06:11.000 That's crazy.
01:06:12.000 Ten people will, like, think about this word, okay?
01:06:15.000 You're listening to me speak.
01:06:17.000 What does Wemmickson mean?
01:06:19.000 If you just heard that word, Wimixin, what is it?
01:06:23.000 Like a tennis player's last name.
01:06:26.000 Like an outfit.
01:06:27.000 Yeah.
01:06:28.000 It is just an alternate spelling of the word woman with an X instead of an A or an E. So it's pronounced, they say it's pronounced like woman, but come on, let's be honest.
01:06:37.000 If you showed that word to someone who was learning English, they would go, Wimixin?
01:06:41.000 Oh, and it's the X because the XY chromosome, it's pronounced like a Y, but it's the X chromosome.
01:06:46.000 None of this makes any sense, Ian.
01:06:46.000 No!
01:06:48.000 I understand.
01:06:49.000 So look at this.
01:06:49.000 Ted London.
01:06:51.000 Why we're using Wimixin?
01:06:53.000 No, that's not a typo.
01:06:54.000 Wimixin is a spelling of women that's more inclusive and progressive.
01:06:58.000 The term sheds lights on the prejudice, discrimination, and institutional barriers Wimixin have faced, and explicitly includes non-cisgendered women.
01:07:06.000 So what they're basically saying is that the word woman does not include trans women.
01:07:10.000 So they're transphobic.
01:07:11.000 I see.
01:07:12.000 So this is all women, including trans women.
01:07:14.000 Which is transphobic, because trans women are women, right?
01:07:16.000 Depends on who you ask, but I think yes.
01:07:18.000 Yeah, they are!
01:07:19.000 So, among the left, when they say trans women are women, the idea that you would need to create a new word, Wimixen, is transphobic, because you're basically saying that trans women are not defined by the word women.
01:07:32.000 This is the inherent problem of the absurdity of this game they play, where nothing can ever be not offensive.
01:07:42.000 So here's what I said.
01:07:42.000 I said, the end goal of this stuff really is just to break our society, isn't it?
01:07:45.000 Let's roll with it.
01:07:46.000 Okay, Wim Mixon is actually racist because he's still using the Latin alphabet and doesn't represent people of all cultures.
01:07:52.000 Yeah, every letter we use is a racist, what do they call it, like a kudos to the slave masters of old, the Romans.
01:07:59.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:08:00.000 There it is.
01:08:01.000 So, if they're going to say, we're going to change the E to an X, because that's inclusive, well then I would argue, what about Cyrillic?
01:08:08.000 What about Asian characters, or Thai, or Indian?
01:08:11.000 You know, Sanskrit, whatever.
01:08:12.000 Oh, we have another guest.
01:08:16.000 So here's what I put.
01:08:18.000 I don't think I can actually pronounce this.
01:08:20.000 It's like, I'm not going to even bother saying this.
01:08:22.000 I'm going to end up saying something really dumb in Chinese if I say it wrong.
01:08:25.000 But you see, I included these symbols here.
01:08:29.000 What are you doing?
01:08:29.000 Get out of here.
01:08:30.000 to create a new word.
01:08:33.000 It's a beautiful word.
01:08:34.000 Yeah, the Chinese characters I put in there just spelled communist.
01:08:36.000 Or I'm sorry, communism.
01:08:38.000 Wom-communism-in.
01:08:40.000 Yes, wom-communism-in.
01:08:41.000 Get out of here, what are you doing?
01:08:43.000 There's a cat on the table.
01:08:44.000 What are they?
01:08:44.000 What are they?
01:08:45.000 It's because you're here.
01:08:46.000 They love the energy.
01:08:47.000 It's a free-for-all.
01:08:48.000 Now he's sitting on the table.
01:08:49.000 Look at this guy.
01:08:49.000 Yeah, he's chilling.
01:08:50.000 He's a centerpiece.
01:08:50.000 Hanging out.
01:08:51.000 He is the man.
01:08:52.000 Anyway.
01:08:53.000 So I have an issue with the word women.
01:08:55.000 Maybe you guys can help me out with.
01:08:56.000 Sure.
01:08:56.000 Why is the word men in the word women?
01:08:59.000 That's their issue.
01:09:00.000 Because the original word was whiffman, and the original word for male was whereman.
01:09:05.000 Oh, so it was the wife of the men?
01:09:08.000 No.
01:09:08.000 That's where wife comes from.
01:09:10.000 So, it was weremen, meaning male human, and withmen, female human.
01:09:16.000 And eventually it became woman, and that's where werewolf comes from.
01:09:21.000 Werewolf was like... Human wolf.
01:09:23.000 Right.
01:09:24.000 Interesting.
01:09:25.000 So, man was just a reference to humanity.
01:09:28.000 I see.
01:09:28.000 But eventually over time, I guess because of the patriarchy, man became to reference colloquially human males.
01:09:35.000 And I say patriarchy, but I actually, as much as it is silly, I do mean that in a certain sense.
01:09:40.000 So, you know, early on, when humans were a bit more tribal and nomadic, and I'm not going to pretend to be an anthropologist or sociologist to know the finer details, but I would just surmise that there were specific descriptors between the males and the females, where men, with men, and that's my understanding.
01:09:55.000 It's not like I've got the book pulled up.
01:09:57.000 I can't tell you everything specifically.
01:09:58.000 Did he just try and drink it?
01:09:59.000 He did try to put his paw into your water.
01:10:01.000 Oh, come on.
01:10:02.000 I watched it and I couldn't say anything about it.
01:10:03.000 He's thirsty for your water.
01:10:04.000 I'm sorry.
01:10:05.000 I got a gatorade here.
01:10:05.000 Anyway, anyway, I was talking about the root words.
01:10:08.000 I was not listening, sorry.
01:10:09.000 So, eventually when society was built, I've read, you know, this is really funny.
01:10:14.000 We're going to get into these studies because if I don't pull up the sources, then people try and claim it's not true or whatever.
01:10:21.000 But anyway, I was reading a study that basically said, not a study, but it was like a research paper talking about the rise of civilization and patriarchy.
01:10:28.000 And what they basically said was, because women are so important to society, that women were protected, which gradually evolved into traditional gender roles of the men would go out and work and the woman would stay home where it was safe.
01:10:42.000 Now he's drinking your water.
01:10:43.000 Paco wants a piece.
01:10:44.000 Yeah.
01:10:46.000 So the idea was, In early human civilization, you have men going on the hunt and stuff like that, women were gathering and taking care of the tribe, while men were taking more risks.
01:10:59.000 But because they were all really much around each other, they basically said we had words to describe different genders.
01:11:07.000 But once it came to be that women were staying behind and civilization was functioning with men doing the work, then men only talking to each other would just say man because it was simpler among themselves.
01:11:18.000 Or if they made a reference to all people, it typically would only refer to human males.
01:11:23.000 Like they would go out on hunting missions for months at a time, the men, as far as I know.
01:11:27.000 Like ancient Native American cultures, they'd go out for like weeks at a time.
01:11:30.000 So they'd only be with guys.
01:11:32.000 So I can see that the language has shifted a bit.
01:11:34.000 I don't know a whole lot about that stuff.
01:11:36.000 Yeah, it would be longer than a day or two.
01:11:38.000 They'd go out for long periods of time.
01:11:40.000 Also, the idea of patronage and, like, the patriarchy is, like, ancient Venice, for instance, was a patriarchy.
01:11:48.000 The patron, or the oldest male of the family, or the most prominent male, would be in charge of the entire city.
01:11:56.000 And then when he died, they would vote for another patron.
01:11:59.000 It's kind of like Wakanda, where the Black Panther and T'Challa and all that stuff.
01:12:07.000 Because they had ritual combat to determine the king.
01:12:11.000 It was a patriarchal, monarchist, ritual combat government.
01:12:15.000 I love how that was a popular movie.
01:12:20.000 I mean, you know, Chadwick Boseman was an awesome, awesome dude.
01:12:23.000 So, you know, rest in peace.
01:12:24.000 I'm sad to hear, you know... I still haven't seen Wakanda, man, or Black Panther.
01:12:28.000 I hear it's awesome.
01:12:29.000 I'd give it a 7 out of 10.
01:12:30.000 Like, Marvel movies tend to be good.
01:12:32.000 But a lot of people were acting like it was some grand masterpiece for, like, you know, racial reasons and stuff like that.
01:12:37.000 And I'm like...
01:12:38.000 You know, if people, if my, my response to a lot of this stuff is people have their opinions and their views.
01:12:43.000 And I don't, I really don't care if someone comes out and they were like, this is what it meant to me.
01:12:46.000 I'm like, that's really cool.
01:12:47.000 Oh yeah.
01:12:47.000 You know, you do your thing.
01:12:48.000 I'm not, I'm not going to be on your, those are your feelings.
01:12:50.000 I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue about how you feel.
01:12:52.000 Yeah.
01:12:52.000 I would judge since I studied it.
01:12:54.000 I judge it more like critically, critically funny word to throw around these days, but like more like what's the plot.
01:12:59.000 How do the scenes, how's the lighting in the scene?
01:13:01.000 Like that's how I judge movies, not how I emotionally.
01:13:04.000 Yeah, some of the CGI was kind of, ugh, at the end.
01:13:06.000 Oh, that turns me off.
01:13:07.000 Yeah, like the final fight scene.
01:13:08.000 But, uh, you know, anyway, the point is, I thought it was an okay, I thought it was pretty good.
01:13:12.000 I thought it was pretty good.
01:13:13.000 I think it was fun.
01:13:14.000 A lot of people like to, you know, what really bothers me about the Cult of Wokeness, and actually this is a good point to segue into this.
01:13:22.000 We'll talk about Colin Kaepernick and the Cult of Wokeness.
01:13:25.000 They will buy anything.
01:13:27.000 if it is from the church.
01:13:29.000 And I don't mean that as in the Christian church, I mean it as in terms of like their new religion.
01:13:34.000 So first, let me introduce you to Colin Kaepernick is back in the Madden game, which people thought was really interesting because Colin Kaepernick is not a football player.
01:13:46.000 Yeah.
01:13:47.000 He's in the game.
01:13:48.000 He left the NFL.
01:13:48.000 This is in 2016.
01:13:49.000 Four years ago.
01:13:50.000 He basically got cut out and that's that.
01:13:52.000 They took him out of the game.
01:13:53.000 He's not great.
01:13:53.000 Now he's in the game.
01:13:54.000 Now they put him back.
01:13:55.000 They put him in the game.
01:13:55.000 With his Black Power sign.
01:13:57.000 So that's when he scores a touchdown he does the Black Power sign?
01:14:00.000 He does that.
01:14:01.000 Is that Black Power?
01:14:02.000 The fist, yeah.
01:14:04.000 Well, it's arguably the communist... It's revolutionary.
01:14:08.000 Yeah, revolutionary fist.
01:14:08.000 It's wild that it's getting co-opted by the... Oh, it's the revolution.
01:14:11.000 Because it's like the fashy.
01:14:12.000 Yeah, right.
01:14:13.000 Yeah, the fingers together make us strong, and that's why you show the fingers to people.
01:14:16.000 That's the Black Power thing, too, right?
01:14:18.000 They would do that.
01:14:19.000 Raising the fist.
01:14:19.000 I mean, you know, it's a salute for racial... The Black Panther thing.
01:14:22.000 Racial identitarianism.
01:14:24.000 They put it in a video game.
01:14:25.000 Yeah, but that was his real touchdown move.
01:14:28.000 In real life?
01:14:29.000 Is that why they did that?
01:14:30.000 No, I don't think so.
01:14:30.000 He just got on his knee or whatever.
01:14:32.000 Dude, that guy, he's divisive.
01:14:34.000 How do you feel about Colin?
01:14:35.000 I think he is a brilliant businessman who realized that... Let's just cut right to the chase, okay?
01:14:43.000 Why is he being put in this video game?
01:14:44.000 First, I think, you mentioned this, sometimes they put free agents in these games.
01:14:49.000 They're not on teams, but they're prominent players, and so they decide to include them.
01:14:54.000 It's been four years.
01:14:55.000 Maybe he shouldn't be included, but, you know, whatever.
01:14:58.000 Who am I to judge?
01:14:59.000 He's a famous person who was in the NFL.
01:15:01.000 He's not anymore.
01:15:02.000 And if they thought it was gonna work for them, so be it.
01:15:04.000 I don't care.
01:15:05.000 Apparently the game was terrible and nobody wanted to play it anyway.
01:15:07.000 Oh, wow.
01:15:07.000 But this, to me, is a really good example of get broke, go woke.
01:15:13.000 Not the other way around.
01:15:14.000 This is what the Oscars just did, too.
01:15:15.000 Yes, the Oscars did this.
01:15:17.000 A misconception among many people is that these companies decide to embrace wokeness because that will make them money.
01:15:27.000 So they signed a contract with Colin gambling that it's going to sell more games.
01:15:31.000 I don't know exactly what the deal with Madden was, but Nike has a big deal, it's like an all-star deal, where apparently some people are estimating like five million.
01:15:40.000 With Colin?
01:15:40.000 Yeah, and they're saying that this deal is reserved for the best players in the NFL.
01:15:45.000 He's not even signed.
01:15:46.000 No, he's not a good player either.
01:15:48.000 But let me explain this.
01:15:49.000 There have been some instances where companies have made woke products and then failed miserably.
01:15:54.000 And everybody laughs and says, get woke, go broke.
01:15:57.000 This is something we've said.
01:15:58.000 Yeah, and I say it a lot.
01:15:59.000 If you embrace wokeness, you're going to lose money.
01:16:01.000 Yeah.
01:16:02.000 Here's what's actually happening for a lot of these companies.
01:16:04.000 They're losing money, so they decide to try getting woke to make money.
01:16:07.000 You know why?
01:16:09.000 Have you ever seen a woke comedy show?
01:16:11.000 No.
01:16:12.000 These people... Here's how I can explain regular comedy.
01:16:16.000 You're sitting there, and you got, say, someone like Ryan Long.
01:16:19.000 Have you seen his videos?
01:16:19.000 I love him, man.
01:16:20.000 He's amazing.
01:16:20.000 He's hilarious.
01:16:21.000 We had him on the show.
01:16:21.000 I watched one of his last night, yeah.
01:16:22.000 Right.
01:16:22.000 And so you're sitting there, you're laughing.
01:16:24.000 You're like, this guy's amazing!
01:16:26.000 This is so funny!
01:16:27.000 Dude, I saw there's an article from Babylon Beat and it said new Netflix subscription service pumps raw septic waste straight into your living room and it was just people sitting in it and like a family sitting on a sofa laughing and smiling and there's a pipe with just sewage spraying everywhere.
01:16:41.000 One of the funniest things I've ever seen.
01:16:44.000 Amazing.
01:16:45.000 And it was like the CEO of Netflix said the industry is evolving and we're evolving with it.
01:16:49.000 People are really excited to pay $8.99 to have raw sewage pumped into your home.
01:16:53.000 Funky.
01:16:54.000 But here's the thing.
01:16:54.000 Amazing.
01:16:55.000 Woke comedy is like, did you see the white man with his privilege get fired?
01:17:01.000 And they go, ha ha ha ha ha.
01:17:03.000 Claps not laughs.
01:17:05.000 Do you know what claptor is?
01:17:05.000 Claptor.
01:17:07.000 Well, I'm starting to understand.
01:17:09.000 It's horrible.
01:17:09.000 Claptor is the idea that people are clapping, not because you're funny, because you're saying things that confirm their bias or they like.
01:17:16.000 Wow.
01:17:16.000 So like John Oliver, for instance.
01:17:19.000 He does not make you laugh.
01:17:21.000 He gives you claptor.
01:17:22.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:17:23.000 It's so obvious too.
01:17:24.000 So he's sitting there and he's like, did you see the orange man?
01:17:27.000 He's so bad.
01:17:28.000 And then everyone's like, ha ha ha ha.
01:17:30.000 You are very funny.
01:17:31.000 I am laughing.
01:17:32.000 Enjoy it.
01:17:33.000 It's not real.
01:17:35.000 So what we're seeing is, here's a question that I asked, and maybe this will be offensive to a lot of religious people.
01:17:40.000 Have you ever been to church?
01:17:41.000 Only like on Easter a couple of times, and I got stung by a bee, so... Alright, would you consider... Throw it back.
01:17:48.000 And you've definitely been to church?
01:17:49.000 I have been to church for most of my life.
01:17:51.000 Would either of you consider it to be entertaining?
01:17:54.000 The one I went to was not.
01:17:55.000 No?
01:17:56.000 What about you?
01:17:57.000 Um, the one that I went to, it depended on the preacher.
01:17:59.000 I finally found a church that was actually engaging.
01:18:01.000 It wasn't entertaining, but it was engaging.
01:18:04.000 What's the point of football?
01:18:06.000 To be entertaining.
01:18:07.000 To be entertained!
01:18:08.000 Yes, to be part of a team.
01:18:09.000 So listen, I ask the question, why is it that people go to church Even though it's not entertaining to them.
01:18:17.000 To learn?
01:18:18.000 Because, well, no, it's because people are going there to practice their faith and to worship and to meet and share with other people, right?
01:18:25.000 They're willing to go to these services, and to be fair, these, like, legitimate religions with, like, scripture and real basis, I can respect someone having faith and saying, we're going to go to service.
01:18:37.000 I've been to church several times, and I think there are a lot of churches that do a really good job of being informative and interesting and engaging, like you mentioned.
01:18:43.000 Yeah.
01:18:43.000 And I think it's actually a problem that there are a lot of churches that, you know... They do try too hard to be entertaining.
01:18:50.000 Well, it's not so much that they try too hard, it's that there are some that are just... you don't want to be there.
01:18:53.000 Yeah.
01:18:54.000 And especially young people don't want to be there.
01:18:56.000 Well, yeah, you start to feel really guilty.
01:18:57.000 And one of the things that I noticed with Church was that they, well, first of all, they would try to be too entertaining, and also people use it as an exercise of discipline.
01:19:05.000 So it is not meant to be fun.
01:19:06.000 It is not meant to be funny.
01:19:07.000 It's just something that you have to do.
01:19:08.000 Right.
01:19:08.000 Yeah, discipline.
01:19:09.000 Well, so here's what's happening, in my opinion.
01:19:11.000 When they put Colin Kaepernick in this game, when they make a movie like Ghostbusters, what they're betting on is, listen, Our company is dying.
01:19:21.000 We're losing money.
01:19:23.000 The ratings are down for all of these things.
01:19:25.000 If we embrace the cult of wokeness, the adherents will just watch because it's, you know, confirmation bias.
01:19:32.000 It's their religion.
01:19:34.000 So what they do is they inject all of this into things hoping that they can create an ideological base that doesn't actually find any of this fun or funny.
01:19:43.000 They'll just go, isn't this amazing?
01:19:46.000 Isn't it really fun?
01:19:47.000 Because I'll tell you what, man, I've seen woke comedians and I would not call them comedians.
01:19:50.000 Really?
01:19:51.000 Yeah, there was one, I think Vice did a segment where they had a woke comedian and all he did was make fun of himself.
01:19:56.000 And I'm like, first of all, I don't know you.
01:19:58.000 And they're in no, like, listen, Rodney Dangerfield.
01:20:01.000 Now that guy knew self-deprecating humor.
01:20:03.000 He was very, like, raw.
01:20:07.000 He wasn't, like, PPC or anything like that.
01:20:11.000 And it wasn't always self-deprecating, but I'll tell you what.
01:20:13.000 I do not want to hear a guy go, get a load of my white privilege, and then have everyone laugh.
01:20:17.000 I'm like, that wasn't a joke.
01:20:18.000 You just said a buzzword that the zealots of your cult are going to go, hey, he's a white privilege!
01:20:24.000 He recognizes white privilege!
01:20:26.000 Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap!
01:20:27.000 There's some people who do woke comedy, and I'm not gonna pretend like it's all bad.
01:20:33.000 I'm just saying it's disproportionately not funny.
01:20:36.000 And I'll tell you this, like, I'm gonna get real offensive too, because I know that there are some people who are like, what?
01:20:42.000 You have a look.
01:20:43.000 She's ready.
01:20:43.000 I'm listening.
01:20:44.000 I'm ready to be offended.
01:20:45.000 Do you know where I'm going?
01:20:45.000 No, I don't.
01:20:46.000 Take it away.
01:20:46.000 He's like, have you ever seen these really cringy, like, low-quality religious films?
01:20:51.000 Oh my gosh, my entire upbringing was spent watching these movies.
01:20:55.000 Okay, yeah.
01:20:55.000 And I'm like, you're going to get offended.
01:20:57.000 Oh no, I'm not offended.
01:20:58.000 These things are awful.
01:20:59.000 Oh my gosh.
01:21:00.000 What was the worst one you ever saw?
01:21:01.000 The worst one?
01:21:02.000 So they're, oh, I can't, I think I blocked them from my memory because they're that bad, but all of them are poorly acted.
01:21:09.000 They're poorly scripted.
01:21:10.000 There's no plot.
01:21:11.000 Everything's horrible.
01:21:12.000 Didn't Cameron, what's his name?
01:21:14.000 Kirk Cameron did one that was really kind of high budget.
01:21:17.000 Dude.
01:21:17.000 Even the modern ones are just so bad.
01:21:20.000 They have never gotten any better.
01:21:22.000 And I'm like, what is wrong with you people?
01:21:23.000 We're losing the culture war already.
01:21:25.000 You're making it worse.
01:21:26.000 Stop.
01:21:27.000 Well, yeah, well, I was gonna say, like, I've seen some of these really low quality.
01:21:31.000 Like, I can't remember what I was saying.
01:21:33.000 I watched a superhero.
01:21:34.000 I think I can't remember what channel was in Chicago.
01:21:36.000 It's like a religious channel.
01:21:38.000 I grew up.
01:21:38.000 I grew up Catholic briefly until I was like, I think.
01:21:42.000 10 or 11, we were going to church and stuff.
01:21:44.000 So they showed us a bunch of this really hokey stuff.
01:21:46.000 And I'm like, you want to talk about a B movie?
01:21:50.000 Let's talk about like a Z movie, where it's like, I don't know, you get the point.
01:21:55.000 So they get non-actors to just read a script, but it's more about the words to try and like, this is scripture.
01:22:00.000 No, it's just they're not film producers.
01:22:02.000 They're not Hollywood.
01:22:06.000 So yeah, to be fair, right?
01:22:09.000 They're making content to the best of their abilities and they're not movie studios.
01:22:12.000 Yes, I would say that their hearts are definitely in the right place.
01:22:16.000 They just don't know how to produce or use modern computers.
01:22:19.000 So you think about these things and then also think about woke movies like Ghostbusters, right?
01:22:25.000 I didn't see it.
01:22:26.000 Imagine what would happen if you took some of these people and you gave them 200 million dollars to make their movie.
01:22:33.000 They still don't know how to make a movie.
01:22:35.000 They would just make a horrible movie with 200 million dollars.
01:22:37.000 They'd make Ghostbusters 2016.
01:22:38.000 Have you seen Ghostbusters 2016?
01:22:39.000 2016! They would make these- have you seen Ghostbusters 2016?
01:22:42.000 No, no, thank god I have not.
01:22:44.000 You're missing out.
01:22:45.000 Imagine- so like, every male character is mentally deficient in some capacity or just like- it's just so awful.
01:22:55.000 It looks so bad, dude.
01:22:56.000 Yeah.
01:22:57.000 This is what happens when you give, you know, the zealots access to capital and they don't know how to do... They just spend the rest on marketing, basically.
01:23:04.000 So they make the crappy, still make the crappy thing.
01:23:06.000 So they overpay the actors.
01:23:09.000 No, they just don't know how to write a movie.
01:23:10.000 And if you speak out against it, you get fired.
01:23:13.000 So they got all these people on big contracts and they got to kind of...
01:23:16.000 Imagine if someone was gonna make a new Iron Man, and they're like, we're gonna bring back Robert Downey Jr., it's gonna be big, and the guy who's gonna run it is Fred, the pastor down from, you know, my local church in, like, Fremont, Nebraska, and he's gonna be like, wouldn't it be great if, you know, Tony goes to confession, and talks about why he's, you know, his sins, and then actually, you know, does, what's it called when you have the rosary, and they tell you what to do, like, when you confess?
01:23:43.000 So I wasn't a Catholic, so I don't have any knowledge.
01:23:46.000 Oh, that's Catholic.
01:23:46.000 I'm sorry.
01:23:47.000 Yeah, you were the Catholic, my friend.
01:23:48.000 That's right.
01:23:49.000 We would go into confession, and then you have the rosary, and then they would tell you, like... Praying the rosary?
01:23:52.000 Yeah, praying the rosary.
01:23:53.000 Yeah, so you're confessional, I don't know.
01:23:55.000 And I mean no disrespect to people who actually practice these religions.
01:23:58.000 I'm saying, wouldn't it be kind of out of place if you watched a movie and there were these weird breaks where it was just, like, very on-the-nose, overtly Catholic activities?
01:24:08.000 It's like, Iron Man's like, in order to stop the evil villain Mandarin, We should all go to church on Sunday.
01:24:14.000 There's a great service and then they spend 20 minutes.
01:24:16.000 That's kind of like, I mean, I'm obviously exaggerating, but take that and replace that with the wokeness.
01:24:23.000 And it's like the men are all really dumb and everything is like, yeah, it's like, it's like watching a religious propaganda film almost.
01:24:23.000 Yeah.
01:24:31.000 Ugh, just as bad.
01:24:32.000 Yeah, with really low production quality.
01:24:34.000 Knowing or believing this is a religion, this new cult of personality or whatever, cult of religion, cult of race, is that what it is?
01:24:42.000 And you know, I would call it a non-theistic religion because it's too widespread and there's no like, there's no Pope of, you know, there's no cult leader of wokeness.
01:24:51.000 There are priests, you know, and I guess you could argue there's like Pope-ish type people, but they're like, you know, cults are specifically worshiping some individual.
01:25:00.000 Oh.
01:25:01.000 And so, yeah, so like there's a, I was reading research on cults because I was talking to a friend and I said, well, this is a cult.
01:25:07.000 And they said, no, it isn't.
01:25:08.000 I looked up the definition of a cult, like there's an anthropological whatever.
01:25:13.000 And it typically requires an individual who leads it.
01:25:17.000 But there are cults where it's just a culture because it's probably derived from the word culture, I would think, or.
01:25:22.000 I don't know.
01:25:23.000 Um, but there's cults of personality where the person dies and they worship their, their picture.
01:25:27.000 And then someone basically is the, you know, YouTube's a cult of personality.
01:25:30.000 Like you get subscribers, people follow you and it's like, they're following your personality.
01:25:34.000 You create a culture around your personality.
01:25:36.000 I don't know about that.
01:25:37.000 Actors like Brad Pitt has a cult of personality surrounding him.
01:25:40.000 Maybe it's very powerful.
01:25:41.000 Donald Trump.
01:25:43.000 But Brad Pitt's not telling you to give your money to him.
01:25:46.000 Cult isn't inherently bad.
01:25:48.000 I know they kind of are trying to sell their body like it's a product that you go and worship.
01:25:53.000 I'll put it this way.
01:25:54.000 There's nothing wrong with having a beer.
01:25:56.000 There's something wrong when having a beer interferes with your daily life.
01:26:00.000 There's nothing wrong with, you know, wanting to follow news about your favorite celebrity.
01:26:05.000 There's something wrong with doing nothing but following them and interfering with your life.
01:26:09.000 Appreciating humans is actually a very good thing for society, but getting obsessed with them is not.
01:26:13.000 Oh yeah, for sure.
01:26:14.000 Moderation.
01:26:15.000 Well, I think the more worrying thing is how ideology is... Man, you know, what were we watching?
01:26:24.000 Earlier today I said Christianity in this country is dead.
01:26:27.000 Um, I think we were watching... The Firm?
01:26:30.000 We were watching The Firm.
01:26:31.000 Yeah, I don't remember the context.
01:26:32.000 Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right.
01:26:33.000 The reason I said that is because in the 1990s and in a lot of these movies... So, this is really interesting.
01:26:41.000 Adam was jamming on the show one night.
01:26:43.000 And he has that one song where he says, it's time to confess your sins.
01:26:48.000 Yeah.
01:26:48.000 But Adam's not religious.
01:26:50.000 You know?
01:26:51.000 And I was like, it's really interesting that somebody who's not a practicing religious individual Uses the concept of confessing your sins because if you went to like China or India, that's not something culturally relevant to them They might understand it, but it's like, you know Imagine if he's saying meditate in a temple, you know and find enlightenment All right, so so we understand these concepts but confessing your sins is a very common cultural thing so we were watching the firm with Tom Cruise from 1993 and there was a scene where they were at a funeral and I was seeing like the priest read rights and all that stuff and that's why I was like
01:27:24.000 The cultural relevance of this was in a mainstream Tom Cruise major motion picture.
01:27:30.000 Today, they probably, of course, still have things like this, but it was interesting to see, like, back then how prominent Christianity was, even among Hollywood liberals.
01:27:40.000 Just accepted.
01:27:41.000 Right, yeah, just like a normal thing to be in a major movie.
01:27:44.000 And now, Not so much.
01:27:46.000 I wonder how much it's it's like in our subconscious is like monogamy is like a Catholic is like a Christian thing.
01:27:54.000 No, no, I wouldn't.
01:27:55.000 Well, I mean, it's not monogamy.
01:27:58.000 Jesus, you know, like marriage, as we know, it is typically an Abrahamic church.
01:28:05.000 Like you can't go to the to the courthouse, but you were going to say.
01:28:08.000 So I think the fact, I think this ties into Adam talking about the idea of confession even though he's not religious is because there are things that go under human understanding.
01:28:17.000 Like the concept that you need to have a man and a woman and they need to be together and they need to be united by like a common cord and a cultural pressure to keep them together.
01:28:27.000 That's good for families.
01:28:28.000 Families are good for the culture.
01:28:30.000 You know, all of this stuff is underneath.
01:28:32.000 It's not, I don't think it is just Abrahamic religion.
01:28:35.000 I think it is part of the human experience.
01:28:37.000 I think there's something that you can't Avoid.
01:28:39.000 I think the feeling of guilt that we all get sometimes and the idea that Adam brings up about confessing is so, I don't know, like ingrained.
01:28:48.000 You can't escape it.
01:28:49.000 And I don't think it is fully religion.
01:28:50.000 I think it's manifest.
01:28:51.000 But the concept of sin itself is what I mean.
01:28:53.000 You think that's religious?
01:28:55.000 Yes.
01:28:55.000 No, no, no.
01:28:56.000 The word sin is specific to Christianity, isn't it?
01:28:59.000 Pride, lust, sloth.
01:29:02.000 The word sin itself.
01:29:04.000 I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
01:29:05.000 There's virtues and sins in the Catholic faith.
01:29:07.000 Yeah, in every faith.
01:29:08.000 But is sin, as a word, a concept outside of Christianity?
01:29:12.000 Gosh, I would like to know that.
01:29:13.000 I believe it is, yeah.
01:29:14.000 It is?
01:29:14.000 I believe so.
01:29:15.000 So a sin is just an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
01:29:19.000 Look up the etymology.
01:29:21.000 The etymology?
01:29:22.000 Hold on.
01:29:22.000 The entomology.
01:29:23.000 The bug.
01:29:24.000 Oh, is that what I said?
01:29:25.000 The etymology is right.
01:29:26.000 Etymology.
01:29:27.000 I said etymology.
01:29:27.000 Yeah.
01:29:28.000 So it's from the Latin for guilty.
01:29:31.000 Interesting.
01:29:32.000 So it is not necessarily religious.
01:29:34.000 It is just part of human nature.
01:29:36.000 Oh, well, there you go.
01:29:36.000 You learn something new every day.
01:29:37.000 Every religion has its own sins.
01:29:39.000 Like certain religions would look at like debauchery as a sin, whereas other ones don't.
01:29:42.000 Yeah, because these things are bad for the culture.
01:29:45.000 Debauchery is bad for the culture.
01:29:46.000 People being drunk is bad for the culture.
01:29:49.000 You could get sick.
01:29:49.000 Eating pork.
01:29:50.000 Exactly.
01:29:50.000 Eating sugar.
01:29:51.000 Yeah, and that was why God put the kibosh on it and stuff like shellfish in Leviticus.
01:29:56.000 Everyone thinks that's crazy, but when they were eating it, it could make, and it often did make you very sick.
01:30:00.000 So it was a sin, but then when they learned how to cook the... It became less relevant.
01:30:04.000 Yeah, the hookworm out of it, then it no longer was a sin.
01:30:07.000 Exactly.
01:30:08.000 Well, and the other part too was that God was trying to keep his people separate from other people around them.
01:30:13.000 He was trying to make them separate and holy and important and special to him.
01:30:16.000 Well, do you guys know about the dawning of the age of Aquarius?
01:30:20.000 Yeah, have you seen Zeitgeist?
01:30:22.000 Yeah.
01:30:23.000 I remember watching that where he's like, you know, what's the guy's name?
01:30:26.000 Peter Joseph?
01:30:26.000 Yeah, yeah, I think so.
01:30:28.000 Yeah.
01:30:28.000 He's talking about how the Judaism was the age of Ares, and they blow the ram's horn.
01:30:35.000 And that the next age was the age of Pisces, which we're in now and symbol of the fish.
01:30:40.000 I don't think it's going to last.
01:30:41.000 It doesn't seem sustainable.
01:30:41.000 the Jesus fish was a reference to the new age.
01:30:44.000 Well, we're entering the age of Aquarius, the water bearer.
01:30:47.000 So is wokeness the new religion that will take over?
01:30:50.000 I don't think it's going to last.
01:30:51.000 I don't, I just, it doesn't seem sustainable.
01:30:53.000 I don't think it can.
01:30:55.000 Because it's built on fear and hate.
01:30:57.000 It's not about bringing people together.
01:30:58.000 It's about what they used to say about Christianity.
01:31:02.000 No, this is a little bit different.
01:31:03.000 So I know I was raised in Christianity and I know there are people who have left the church violently who say that it's nothing but fear and guilt.
01:31:09.000 And there is a bit of that if you're not doing it right.
01:31:12.000 But I think that basing something on fear and guilt is, in fact, untenable.
01:31:17.000 I think that Christianity is not based on fear or guilt.
01:31:20.000 It's based on a A healthy respect for divine providence, for God, and for other humans.
01:31:27.000 And like, Jesus, if you break it down, the Christ consciousness is like, that's a good thing, but when you organize a religion, a business around it, and try and profit off of the concept is when it starts to get dangerous.
01:31:38.000 Yeah, you involve human greed and stuff.
01:31:40.000 Yeah.
01:31:40.000 It's a problem.
01:31:42.000 Yup.
01:31:43.000 The very simple story of a dude who helped other dudes.
01:31:47.000 Dude, if we could just behave like Jesus, like if everyone started behaving like that, That's like the whole point of Christianity.
01:31:52.000 They're just like, just behave like this guy.
01:31:54.000 He was great.
01:31:55.000 He was the son of God.
01:31:56.000 You're not perfect, but do the best you can and ask for forgiveness.
01:31:59.000 Forgiveness.
01:31:59.000 Turn the other cheek.
01:32:00.000 I would love it if the SCWs would turn the other cheek.
01:32:03.000 I would love it if everyone did.
01:32:04.000 Good sir, I couldn't help but notice that you said a naughty word on Twitter.
01:32:08.000 Well, I ask that you humbly take into consideration, but I will turn the other cheek and I will move on.
01:32:13.000 I'd be like, how nice.
01:32:14.000 And they should get likes for that.
01:32:15.000 If you could somehow get rewarded for not dissing on someone.
01:32:19.000 Yeah, but dude, humans are flawed.
01:32:21.000 Dude, that's the Twitter, man.
01:32:23.000 Twitter is a rage machine.
01:32:25.000 Twitter is a video game where you try and figure out how to get the most points.
01:32:30.000 That's what it feels like.
01:32:30.000 Retweets, likes, shares, followers.
01:32:33.000 And guess what?
01:32:34.000 In order to get those, you have to be a mean person.
01:32:37.000 That's why Twitter started adding this thing where it's like, are you sure you want to call this person a douchebag?
01:32:42.000 Oh, really?
01:32:42.000 Have you seen that?
01:32:43.000 No.
01:32:43.000 Are you still having that?
01:32:44.000 I don't know.
01:32:44.000 I haven't seen it at all.
01:32:45.000 Did they get rid of it?
01:32:45.000 I don't know.
01:32:46.000 But I never call people douchebags.
01:32:47.000 That's hilarious.
01:32:48.000 So it's like, I don't know if it happens to other people.
01:32:50.000 Like, you'd respond to someone saying, shut your mouth, you dumb, you know, whatever.
01:32:54.000 And it would be like, are you sure you want to say this to this person?
01:32:56.000 What?
01:32:57.000 That's awesome.
01:32:58.000 Dude, Twitter had an opportunity to get rid of these things, but Twitter is literally, it's where you go to get angry.
01:33:05.000 Yeah, lately I have been.
01:33:07.000 So I'll retweet like a violent protest of a guy getting kicked in the gut and then I'll do like two of those and then I'll retweet like a baby smiling at the rainbow.
01:33:16.000 It's like one out of five joyous things.
01:33:18.000 I'm trying to keep it like some level of balance.
01:33:21.000 I'll do like philosophy, but no one likes, people get angry when I try and be philosophical on Twitter.
01:33:26.000 They're like, They're like, why aren't you insulting someone over something inane?
01:33:30.000 Don't try and talk down to me.
01:33:31.000 This is not an arbitrary and generic insult.
01:33:35.000 And then they insult you because of it.
01:33:38.000 So, I got a really funny, just like, quick tidbit.
01:33:42.000 On the show, I can't remember which show it was, I was talking about how conservatives are more attractive than liberals.
01:33:47.000 Oh, I heard that.
01:33:48.000 It's true.
01:33:48.000 I saw that tweet.
01:33:50.000 So there's several studies that back this up.
01:33:52.000 And there was a story from the Washington Post, actually, I think for the sake of avoiding, you know, vitriol.
01:33:59.000 Misquoting, maybe?
01:34:01.000 No, people being like, Tim's making this up.
01:34:04.000 It's like, I'll just I'll just pull up the actual story.
01:34:06.000 There you go.
01:34:06.000 Take a look.
01:34:07.000 Oh.
01:34:08.000 Oh, snap.
01:34:08.000 Conservatives really are better looking.
01:34:10.000 This is just one of several studies.
01:34:13.000 And what's really funny about this is that it was Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks was insulting me because I brought this up.
01:34:21.000 Somebody took a clip of me saying that, you know, when you go to the DNC, you see overweight, frumpy individuals.
01:34:27.000 When you go to the RNC, you see tall, handsome, or busty women.
01:34:31.000 And that's not an anecdote that's from me.
01:34:34.000 It was from a feminist who was explaining to me the concept of privilege and how it breaks down between the political parties.
01:34:41.000 If you go through life as handsome and attractive with, you know, tall and a deep voice and you're like ripped, people are going to do favors for you, they're going to be nice to you, and you are going, you're going to be like, I don't want redistribution of my wealth, I've been able to do it on my own.
01:34:56.000 This is just a general concept of privilege.
01:34:58.000 And so I was actually referencing this, so basically what happens is, In the context of Twitter, even though you could simply Google search, conservatives better looking, you would find numerous studies.
01:35:10.000 There's one out of Cambridge that says people who are more attractive tend to have conservative political beliefs and become Republican.
01:35:17.000 There's also another study that says in Europe, particularly it's this one referencing Finland, saying they had people who didn't know the politicians of a certain country and asked them to rate appearance and found conservative political parties had more attractive members.
01:35:29.000 So it's cause, not effect.
01:35:31.000 They said that they don't know correlation or causation, but they found a correlation between, you know.
01:35:36.000 I would think like if you're good-looking and life is handed to you more readily, that why would you want to change it?
01:35:40.000 So you tend towards more conservation and keeping things the status quo.
01:35:44.000 Independence.
01:35:45.000 If I can do it on my own.
01:35:46.000 If you're funky looking and you gotta break it all down.
01:35:49.000 That's right, burn it all down.
01:35:50.000 Portland, baby.
01:35:51.000 So the main issue is...
01:35:53.000 You get a bunch of people like... I'm talking about the host of The Young Turks, one of the biggest political networks.
01:35:59.000 He didn't even take two seconds to Google search when I said, there's a study.
01:36:03.000 He tweeted at me, insulting me in my appearance.
01:36:07.000 Mocking me for wearing the beanie or whatever.
01:36:08.000 Too hot for the beanie, yeah.
01:36:09.000 And then he said, what study?
01:36:11.000 And I'm like, the craziest thing is I've not said a bad word about Cenk Uygur.
01:36:15.000 I maybe was critical of him because he yelled at me at Politicon a couple years ago.
01:36:18.000 Oh, nice.
01:36:18.000 Like he just got in my face with screaming.
01:36:20.000 I'm like, dude...
01:36:20.000 But I've not said anything bad about him or anybody else.
01:36:23.000 So I'm like, why did he just decide to start insulting me?
01:36:27.000 And the crazy thing is... He wants to come on the show, man!
01:36:29.000 I know, right?
01:36:30.000 No, it's because Twitter has turned people into hate mongers.
01:36:34.000 So easy.
01:36:35.000 They turn them into hate mongers.
01:36:36.000 So here's his opportunity to dunk.
01:36:39.000 If he did a simple Google search, he would have found that I was not trying to denigrate anyone.
01:36:43.000 I was referencing research.
01:36:48.000 What was not included in his clip was me saying a feminist was explaining this concept to me.
01:36:53.000 Yeah, the clip was out of context.
01:36:54.000 It was three clips edited together to make one long clip.
01:36:57.000 It was totally out of context.
01:36:59.000 Of course, of course.
01:36:59.000 And what he could have done was simply said, I wonder if this is true.
01:37:03.000 Instead, he ends up with, you know, several hundred people all laughing and giggling amongst themselves and high-fiving each other about how smart they are, even though I was actually referencing a real study.
01:37:13.000 Right.
01:37:13.000 Whether you want to agree with the study or not is irrelevant.
01:37:15.000 There's several studies that say the same thing.
01:37:17.000 And the point I was trying to bring up was privilege!
01:37:20.000 If you are a privileged individual of great attractiveness, then you do not want to give up what you've gotten because of it.
01:37:29.000 And they argued against the idea.
01:37:31.000 If he'd listened.
01:37:33.000 The general idea, the reason I'm bringing this up is, you can get people to argue against their own ideology if they're dunking on you to be angry and hateful.
01:37:42.000 Oh, good point.
01:37:42.000 Be the fop.
01:37:43.000 So here you have a bunch of leftists who are the ones advocating for this concept of privilege, arguing against that very concept because it was an opportunity to insult me and earn points.
01:37:56.000 Oh wow.
01:37:58.000 Right.
01:37:58.000 This says to me, you know, Twitter is a tribalist machine that trains people to find a tribe, disregard principle, and insult someone else.
01:38:07.000 You get retweets, you get likes, you get followers.
01:38:10.000 That's why we have Trump Reply Guys.
01:38:12.000 They have nothing of substance to add, but they are tribalists who say, Trump is bad!
01:38:16.000 And they get followers.
01:38:18.000 Then they say, PayPal me!
01:38:19.000 And they make money.
01:38:21.000 Do you like that there's no downvote on Twitter?
01:38:24.000 I don't know if that, I mean, actually, maybe there should be.
01:38:27.000 What I don't like is that when you open someone's tweet, you'll see, like, your algorithmic top tweet.
01:38:34.000 And so the left and the right see different things.
01:38:35.000 Oh, wow.
01:38:36.000 People you follow.
01:38:37.000 Right, that's very echo chamber-y.
01:38:39.000 Exactly.
01:38:40.000 So, if we did upvotes and downvotes on replies, then it'd be a much more interesting space.
01:38:47.000 Much more interesting.
01:38:48.000 And I think it's not so cut and dry as to say who would, you know, dominate left or right.
01:38:53.000 I think there'd be instances where the right would upvote crazy, and the left would upvote crazy, and you'd see a little bit back and forth.
01:38:58.000 It also, I think, could actually help the left get more exposure to the right, which they need, because the right has exposure to the left.
01:39:05.000 No choice.
01:39:06.000 Not so the other way around.
01:39:07.000 So, more importantly, I'm just like, I roll my eyes when I see, you know, Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks has a massive network.
01:39:15.000 They get something like 50 million views per month.
01:39:19.000 And he... Is this the nature of his work that when someone calmly references some research on like a podcast, that he turns it into a rage click without research?
01:39:33.000 And so he's misinforming his audience.
01:39:35.000 They were all thinking that they're so much smarter and better.
01:39:38.000 And the crazy thing was how they were insulting my appearance.
01:39:41.000 I'm like, but I did not directly insult anybody.
01:39:44.000 I said, you tend to see this at the RNC, you tend to see it at the DNC.
01:39:47.000 And it was actually a feminist who made a video about this explaining it.
01:39:50.000 Yeah, but I don't think that was in the video, was it?
01:39:52.000 I think it all came from because it was out of context.
01:39:54.000 They didn't see the study and what you're talking about.
01:39:56.000 Well, I didn't show the study.
01:39:57.000 Yeah.
01:39:57.000 Because it was like, you know, I once read a study and, you know, basically what they said was, and instead of doing a Google search to be like, I wonder if that's true.
01:40:06.000 They immediately just say, let's drum up hate for money.
01:40:09.000 It's like the ability to make snap judgments about people and things is, is very like read, read the title, but don't read the article and make a comment.
01:40:18.000 Like that's, that's dangerous, but maybe necessary for evolution.
01:40:22.000 Like we have to be able to make quick snap judgments to survive.
01:40:26.000 I think, I think information is traveling so fast it didn't travel this way before.
01:40:30.000 You know, uh, I think, were we talking about World War I or something?
01:40:33.000 Yeah.
01:40:33.000 Where it was like, it would take weeks for the messages to come back to the U.S.
01:40:37.000 for you to even know what was going on.
01:40:38.000 That's crazy.
01:40:39.000 Now, there was a crazy video where you had GoPro footage from a tank and from the people shooting at the tank.
01:40:45.000 What?! !
01:40:45.000 Yeah.
01:40:46.000 It was amazing.
01:40:47.000 Interesting story.
01:40:48.000 And some news organization put the clips together and they're like, for the first time, you have video footage from both sides of an active conflict.
01:40:53.000 Oh, good.
01:40:54.000 So this is coming in really, really quickly.
01:40:56.000 So what ends up happening is, back in the day, what did you have to read?
01:41:00.000 You didn't have Twitter.
01:41:02.000 You had a pamphlet that came and has three things to say on it.
01:41:05.000 You're going to read all of it because there's nothing else to read.
01:41:07.000 Now, I've got 5,000 tweets every minute.
01:41:11.000 What's the fire hose on Twitter?
01:41:12.000 It's ridiculous!
01:41:13.000 So you're just like flipping through like, oh, I can only read a few things and people are just being... it's information overload.
01:41:20.000 So what's crazy is...
01:41:22.000 There's, uh, I love how there's like this idea of the grifter.
01:41:27.000 When I was talking to a friend of mine, he was like, bro, you just make, you know, angry videos, insulting Democrats because it's your business model.
01:41:33.000 You know what you're doing.
01:41:34.000 And I'm like, I know what I'm doing and that I have an opinion.
01:41:36.000 And I was like, and you posting your complaints on social media is literally the same thing.
01:41:41.000 The only difference is I do it as a job and you do it endlessly all day for posting memes, I guess.
01:41:45.000 I don't know.
01:41:46.000 Also speaking on video is very different.
01:41:48.000 It takes a certain level of confidence and it changes you.
01:41:51.000 To communicate via video.
01:41:52.000 I mean, that's a powerful medium.
01:41:54.000 I just mean, like, one of the things that's happening right now is that there's no way I could know everything.
01:42:00.000 So of course I get things wrong all the time.
01:42:02.000 I'm a dude who's giving his opinion on major news, trying to use certified sources and do my best to fact-check, and there are people who are like, Tim's misinforming people.
01:42:11.000 And I'm like, and so is The Young Turks, and so is Steven Crowder, and so is Six Seconds.
01:42:16.000 Everybody is getting something wrong.
01:42:18.000 Everybody is doing this.
01:42:19.000 It's a very, very different ecosystem.
01:42:20.000 Now, you can argue it's bad.
01:42:22.000 Maybe it really is.
01:42:23.000 I don't know what the solution is.
01:42:24.000 It seems necessary, whatever it is.
01:42:27.000 We're all trying to assert, like, actually, this is true because of this reason.
01:42:30.000 And then someone's saying, no, Tim's wrong, and here's why.
01:42:33.000 Yeah, it's like trying to be right is less important than trying to be honest.
01:42:37.000 Yeah.
01:42:38.000 Trying to win, I think.
01:42:39.000 Trying to win for your tribe.
01:42:40.000 That's something that makes me nervous about Trump because he talks about winning and it makes me like really nervous.
01:42:45.000 I don't like it.
01:42:46.000 I don't like the idea of tribes.
01:42:49.000 I don't care about tribes.
01:42:51.000 I don't want to be in anyone's tribe.
01:42:53.000 I'm going to go build my own shack in the middle of the woods with a little river and a dog.
01:42:58.000 You leave me alone.
01:42:58.000 I'm going to do my thing.
01:43:00.000 You do yours.
01:43:01.000 Very libertarian.
01:43:02.000 Just leave me alone.
01:43:02.000 Is the dog in your tribe?
01:43:04.000 Yes.
01:43:05.000 That's his entire tribe.
01:43:06.000 He wants to be in your tribe.
01:43:07.000 This is what I've talked about.
01:43:08.000 I'm very left libertarian in the sense that I'm all about having a hippie farm.
01:43:12.000 We have our own little farm.
01:43:14.000 We have a small group of people.
01:43:15.000 We share.
01:43:16.000 We get along.
01:43:16.000 Everything's great.
01:43:18.000 Leave us alone.
01:43:19.000 It doesn't work in a grand scale, life libertarianism, you know, with the big cities, but that's what I'm, that's what I'm, do you leave me alone?
01:43:25.000 And we're going to share, you know, our fruits and veggies.
01:43:27.000 And, you know, we just got to, we got a bunch of jalapenos that just came from the garden.
01:43:30.000 It's going to be great.
01:43:31.000 Oh, I shouted out all those new peppers we got.
01:43:33.000 Ghost peppers.
01:43:35.000 FYI.
01:43:35.000 Delicious.
01:43:36.000 For the win.
01:43:37.000 Those are amazing.
01:43:38.000 Spicy though.
01:43:39.000 They're like, they smell like green pepper, but I think they're red.
01:43:42.000 I have no idea.
01:43:43.000 Dude, they're hot.
01:43:44.000 They're spicy.
01:43:45.000 They're so spicy.
01:43:45.000 And they make new peppers out of, like, ghost peppers.
01:43:48.000 So, like, a lot of these really hot peppers are ghost pepper amalgams.
01:43:52.000 You know, what do they call it when they blend them?
01:43:54.000 Hybrids.
01:43:54.000 Yeah, hybrids.
01:43:56.000 I have no idea what I was talking about.
01:43:57.000 But peppers now.
01:43:58.000 Emotions and being a YouTuber.
01:44:00.000 Like, having the burden of trying to communicate.
01:44:02.000 No, no, just like, just how people, everyone thinks they're right and everyone else is wrong.
01:44:08.000 And the challenge now is that Even with people like me, where I produce content, I'm just one perspective.
01:44:15.000 And so that's why I'm often telling people, you gotta watch other shows too.
01:44:18.000 Because otherwise, I'm probably missing a big piece of the picture.
01:44:21.000 I'm just one person.
01:44:22.000 This is where the left comes up short.
01:44:24.000 Because they're telling you, Brian Stelter and this guy in that video we watched earlier, stop watching Fox News.
01:44:29.000 Dude, screw you.
01:44:30.000 Watch every single news source so that you can form your own opinion.
01:44:34.000 And I'm constantly listening to people and I'm trying to find what little bit of truth they have to tell me.
01:44:38.000 Because 90% of it is their opinion and there's a little bit of truth in there and I'll take it and I'll use it.
01:44:42.000 You know why I really want people to watch every news source?
01:44:46.000 Because if you have somebody who only watches Fox News and then they watch CNN, And then you have somebody who only watches CNN and then they watch Fox News.
01:44:54.000 Both of them are gonna go, CNN is lying.
01:44:58.000 Oh, good point.
01:44:59.000 CNN is notoriously bad journalism.
01:44:59.000 Yeah.
01:45:02.000 Oh, it's, it's, yes.
01:45:04.000 My favorite was when Don Lemon was talking to a panel and he goes, a lot of people on the internet are talking about, you know, black holes.
01:45:10.000 And I know it's preposterous, but you know, Mary, is it preposterous?
01:45:15.000 Is the missing Malaysian airplane, right?
01:45:17.000 Oh, that it fell into a black hole?
01:45:18.000 And then the woman goes, Oh, you know, even a small black hole would swallow the whole universe.
01:45:18.000 Yeah.
01:45:18.000 Yeah.
01:45:24.000 It just got worse.
01:45:25.000 You know what, man?
01:45:26.000 And then I was watching Fox and Friends one morning, and they had a priest on to talk about how evolution wasn't real.
01:45:32.000 Right, right, right.
01:45:32.000 Oh.
01:45:33.000 Fox and News.
01:45:35.000 But I'll tell you what.
01:45:37.000 Primetime, I think Tucker Carlson does a really, really, really good job.
01:45:39.000 Yeah, he's carrying the torch, man.
01:45:41.000 He really is.
01:45:42.000 I'm impressed.
01:45:42.000 And did you see when Jon Stewart just basically browbeat him back in the day?
01:45:46.000 It was when Tucker had a great reckoning.
01:45:48.000 He used to wear a bow tie.
01:45:49.000 It was Crossfire.
01:45:50.000 Yeah, they had Jon Stewart on the show, and Jon Stewart made a mockery out of Tucker, and Tucker just took it.
01:45:55.000 He just listened to him because he had a lot of respect for Jon, and it changed his mind, and he became a better journalist after that.
01:46:05.000 Yeah, Tucker has changed a lot for the better, for sure.
01:46:08.000 He had a segment, I think last year, where he was anti-POT legalization, and it felt forced.
01:46:13.000 I was like, you don't really believe this?
01:46:14.000 We should definitely legalize POT and get these nonviolent offenders out of jail.
01:46:18.000 I'm sure.
01:46:19.000 I wonder where he's at today on that.
01:46:21.000 Because if Trump came out right now and said, we're doing an executive order, nonviolent offenders will be reviewed, pardoned, released, full commute, you know, sentence commuted and expunged, landslide.
01:46:31.000 Yeah, easily.
01:46:32.000 Landslide.
01:46:33.000 Yes.
01:46:33.000 But you know Biden's talking about that.
01:46:35.000 Oh, good for him.
01:46:36.000 I don't think I need a good point.
01:46:39.000 Kamala Harris threw a bunch of people in jail for it.
01:46:42.000 Yeah, but to be fair, what did Pence do?
01:46:45.000 Not much.
01:46:46.000 It's true.
01:46:47.000 And he was in a smaller state than Kamala was.
01:46:49.000 Oh, what did he do?
01:46:50.000 He was the governor of Indiana.
01:46:53.000 So he so the reason I bring him up is because to be completely honest, I should be able to be like actually hear things that but I don't know anything about Pence.
01:47:00.000 I wonder if that's why Donald Trump picked him because he's a kind of a silent.
01:47:03.000 He's Indiana or something.
01:47:05.000 So he's been criticized for his stance on like homosexuality and stuff like that.
01:47:08.000 That's the most that I know.
01:47:09.000 And I know Kamala Harris been has been dragged heavily.
01:47:12.000 But it is fair to say, look, there was a post someone made about Joe Biden wanting to legalize pot and release nonviolent offenders, and he's had it for a while.
01:47:22.000 And I'm like, that's a great thing.
01:47:23.000 That is absolutely a good thing.
01:47:25.000 The only problem is I just don't think he's a real candidate.
01:47:28.000 Joe Biden could come out and say everything that Trump is saying, and I'd still say, That's a good analogy.
01:47:33.000 flashlight with dying batteries.
01:47:35.000 That's a good analogy.
01:47:36.000 That's Joe Rogans.
01:47:37.000 Yeah, that was brilliant.
01:47:38.000 And so I actually was thinking about it and the way I described it was if I had to go
01:47:42.000 into a dark cave and I'm my choice between a flashlight with dying batteries and a torch
01:47:46.000 that could burn me, I got to take the torch, man.
01:47:49.000 The torch is gonna be consistent, it's gonna work, it's gonna be hot, it's gonna be dangerous, but I know it will keep the light going.
01:47:56.000 Yeah, the light's the most important thing in that situation.
01:47:59.000 Yeah, and the flashlight's better tech.
01:48:01.000 It's, you know, you need the batteries, man.
01:48:03.000 If it's not gonna work, it's not gonna work.
01:48:05.000 What if you could have a dying flashlight or a gorilla with a headlight strapped to its forehead?
01:48:11.000 I'm seeing the comparison.
01:48:12.000 Yeah, I like it.
01:48:13.000 Um, I... man.
01:48:14.000 I followed that gorilla.
01:48:15.000 I'm gonna go with the gorilla.
01:48:16.000 He's the gorilla my friend.
01:48:17.000 Well, it's up to you.
01:48:18.000 He fights for you.
01:48:19.000 He's gonna, like, kill me.
01:48:21.000 I've never been that close to a gorilla.
01:48:23.000 Well, hopefully... I think he'd rip you in half.
01:48:23.000 Right.
01:48:25.000 Hopefully we're friends.
01:48:26.000 We've grown up together and we're on an adventure together and he's leading the way.
01:48:26.000 Yes.
01:48:29.000 He has your best interests in mind.
01:48:31.000 Oh, excellent.
01:48:31.000 Then he'll fight off the Morlocks and the mole people and stuff.
01:48:34.000 Yeah, dude.
01:48:34.000 Homie!
01:48:35.000 Yeah, dude.
01:48:35.000 Homie gorilla.
01:48:36.000 He could use that strength.
01:48:37.000 All right, let's go to Super Chats, because we always go a little long.
01:48:41.000 We got Laughing Man.
01:48:42.000 Laughing Man, that is an excellent avatar and an excellent name.
01:48:44.000 I love Ghost in the Shell.
01:48:46.000 He says, do you think we are seeing a doubling down of race theory from the left since Trump essentially cut off the dragon's head by taking it out of schools?
01:48:53.000 How do they counter this kind of attack from Trump?
01:48:55.000 Please share.
01:48:56.000 What is this?
01:48:57.000 No mail-in vote?
01:48:59.000 Change.org, no mail-in vote.
01:49:01.000 I don't know if they're doubling down.
01:49:02.000 I will say the media, because if Trump came out and was like, ladies and gentlemen, pizza is great, my favorite is deep dish from Chicago, they'd be like, pizza is bad!
01:49:12.000 Why is Trump talking about pizza?
01:49:13.000 What's he trying to say?
01:49:15.000 They would be on board with Pizzagate in two seconds if Trump slipped up.
01:49:20.000 Anything Trump says, they're against.
01:49:22.000 A question regarding this.
01:49:24.000 So critical race theory, Trump said it's out of government offices, government trainings.
01:49:28.000 So does that mean it's out of school, like public schools, which are government organizations?
01:49:33.000 I don't think so.
01:49:33.000 It's a good question.
01:49:34.000 But they should absolutely have some kind of mandate from the Department of Education.
01:49:34.000 I don't think so.
01:49:38.000 Well, this is something he was talking about.
01:49:40.000 He was talking about defunding the schools that teach the 1619 project, which I was like, yes, please get rid of all that.
01:49:47.000 That's part of Critical Race, the 1619 Project.
01:49:49.000 It's entirely Critical Race.
01:49:51.000 It's revisionist history.
01:49:54.000 They argue that America truly began in the year 1619 with the first slave arriving.
01:49:58.000 And it's just total bunk.
01:50:00.000 In 1620 it was Plymouth Rock or something?
01:50:01.000 It's just total bunk.
01:50:02.000 It's just nonsense.
01:50:04.000 And the lady who wrote it even said it wasn't really history.
01:50:08.000 Yeah, it was just how it could have been.
01:50:10.000 Literally like a parallel universe.
01:50:11.000 Alternate reality.
01:50:14.000 Brandon Toms says, instead of people's attractiveness affecting their political leanings, what if people's political leanings affect their attractiveness?
01:50:21.000 Imagine going through life thinking everyone owes you something.
01:50:24.000 It's got to affect how you look over time.
01:50:26.000 That's actually a really good point, but a better example is, imagine if you take two people who are kind of doughy, right?
01:50:31.000 And you tell one person, it's your responsibility and you have to work hard.
01:50:34.000 And you tell the other person, it's not your fault.
01:50:37.000 It's because of all the drinks they made you eat.
01:50:39.000 How do you think those people would develop?
01:50:41.000 The person who was told it's their responsibility, they're gonna be like, I better start eating better and working out.
01:50:46.000 The other person's gonna be like, it's not my fault.
01:50:48.000 And I could see stress can make you ugly.
01:50:51.000 I mean, stress can make you contorted and grow in weird ways.
01:50:56.000 Like Voldemort at the last Harry Potter scene.
01:50:59.000 All kinds of stress.
01:51:00.000 When he was all shriveled up.
01:51:01.000 Totally, a stress-induced shrivel.
01:51:04.000 Millennials love their Harry Potter references.
01:51:06.000 That's the joke.
01:51:07.000 I love those books.
01:51:08.000 Oh, my mouse is getting stuck.
01:51:11.000 All right, what do we got here?
01:51:12.000 Gareth Green says, I thought saving money rather than spending it was a virtue.
01:51:16.000 Moreover, the idea of individual liberty is that everyone has the right to their own property, including money, so long as they haven't actually stolen it.
01:51:22.000 What was that?
01:51:23.000 Waving at Betsy.
01:51:24.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to be distracting.
01:51:25.000 Oh, you were waving at the cat.
01:51:26.000 Yes, I was.
01:51:27.000 Not you.
01:51:27.000 I was like, are you trying to alert me?
01:51:28.000 I was not.
01:51:29.000 No, it's very important that I wave to the cat.
01:51:31.000 I'm sorry, guys.
01:51:32.000 She loved it.
01:51:33.000 Shadi Viceroy says, I wonder if y'all are noticing that Asians and white people are being forced to work harder to go to college, therefore making those folk more conservative.
01:51:40.000 Hmm.
01:51:41.000 I don't know.
01:51:41.000 Perhaps, perhaps.
01:51:43.000 I will say, the interesting thing about the non-POC space is that depending on who you ask, Asians are or aren't people of color.
01:51:50.000 That's a weird one.
01:51:51.000 That's why it was interesting that it wasn't a whites-only space specifically.
01:51:53.000 Right.
01:51:54.000 Because I'm wondering, like, does that mean an Asian person could go there?
01:51:57.000 Or an albino?
01:51:58.000 I have a good friend that's an African-American descent, but he's albino.
01:52:01.000 Yeah, man.
01:52:01.000 That's a great question.
01:52:02.000 How does that work?
01:52:03.000 He just looks super—Victor!
01:52:04.000 Oh, I know, I know, I know.
01:52:05.000 But how does that— I don't know.
01:52:06.000 He doesn't look—he's, like, lighter-skinned than I am.
01:52:07.000 But he does identify as black.
01:52:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:52:09.000 Yeah.
01:52:10.000 So it's interesting.
01:52:11.000 Which is a color, a shade, which is so bizarre.
01:52:13.000 I mean, man, this language.
01:52:14.000 Stupid.
01:52:14.000 Yeah, it's weird.
01:52:15.000 It's really stupid.
01:52:16.000 Reductive.
01:52:17.000 Yeah.
01:52:17.000 No, I don't know, man.
01:52:18.000 Everything's weird and crazy.
01:52:20.000 Let's see.
01:52:21.000 Matthew Hammond says, well, OK, I guess this question was for Will, but Will didn't end up actually making it.
01:52:27.000 But he's asking that, do you agree that last night's rally in North Carolina was Trump's best ever?
01:52:32.000 Best ever?
01:52:32.000 I have heard that.
01:52:33.000 It was great.
01:52:36.000 I'll tell you this, man.
01:52:37.000 I just heard Trump tell Woodward that he's drinking the Kool-Aid on White Privilege.
01:52:41.000 I'm here for that.
01:52:42.000 And I'm like, ooh, I'm voting for this guy.
01:52:44.000 This is gonna be good.
01:52:45.000 You know, hey man, push back on that stuff.
01:52:47.000 Josh Greshner says, really enjoying the podcast, Tim.
01:52:50.000 Are you still taking guest recommendations?
01:52:52.000 Would love to see Maj Tour on your show sometime.
01:52:55.000 He's a great 2A advocate for 2A and founder of Black Guns Matter.
01:52:58.000 Oh yeah, for sure.
01:52:59.000 He's on my shortlist.
01:53:01.000 I don't think I can message him, but yeah, we'll figure something out.
01:53:03.000 Yeah, that'd be cool.
01:53:04.000 I think I may have met him, actually, in Texas.
01:53:07.000 I'm not sure.
01:53:08.000 You gotta get a hold of him.
01:53:09.000 Oh, well, we'll try and figure it out.
01:53:11.000 Yeah.
01:53:11.000 I was in Texas, and I met a guy who had a Black Guns Matter shirt, and he was, like, walking around with a gun.
01:53:16.000 Super chill.
01:53:17.000 And then it was funny, because he walked up to some, like, right-wing militia-looking dudes, and they were, like, laughing and talking together.
01:53:22.000 And I was just like, you see, it's not about race.
01:53:25.000 It's just people, you know?
01:53:26.000 And if the guy's like, hey, man, that's a really cool gun or whatever, and they talk and they hang out and they were getting along, I can't stand racists, man.
01:53:32.000 I just want to hang out with people and have a smile and have a good time.
01:53:35.000 Alright.
01:53:36.000 Sam G says, Timbo, thanks for debunking the French cemetery hoax by bringing it up.
01:53:40.000 Jason Lee pulled from BuzzFeed and his backfire FOIA request.
01:53:43.000 That being said, how credible overall would you consider anonymous sources?
01:53:48.000 Man, it's tough.
01:53:49.000 I typically don't like them.
01:53:51.000 But it's like, imagine... Here's the problem with anonymous sources.
01:53:55.000 What if I said an anonymous source confirmed to me that Donald Trump is a lizard person?
01:54:00.000 Who was it?
01:54:00.000 You.
01:54:01.000 Well, that's my... Wait, I'm the anonymous source that's asking who the anonymous source was?
01:54:05.000 Mind twist!
01:54:07.000 So the point is, here's the way I talk about anonymous sources.
01:54:11.000 You have...
01:54:13.000 A dude comes out with a report and he's like, breaking news, multiple sources confirm Donald Trump, you know, stole a bag of diamonds from a jewelry store.
01:54:24.000 And then people are like, who are these sources?
01:54:26.000 They are people who are very familiar with the incident and were very close to at the time of occurring.
01:54:31.000 And it turns out it's like a group of homeless guys who are sleeping in an alley behind the jewelry store.
01:54:36.000 They saw Trump leave with a bunch of jewels that he bought and paid for.
01:54:39.000 But then you say, well, these guys were there.
01:54:42.000 They saw Trump and we know Trump was there.
01:54:44.000 This is confirmed.
01:54:46.000 And then here's the best part.
01:54:47.000 So Trump didn't steal anything.
01:54:48.000 They just asserted it because they assumed it.
01:54:51.000 The journalist thinks it's true.
01:54:52.000 My favorite part.
01:54:53.000 Another news organization then says, we need to independently verify this is true.
01:54:57.000 So they go to the alley, see the homeless guys, and say, hey, did you tell the Washington Post that Trump's... They go, yeah, we did.
01:55:03.000 Confirmed!
01:55:04.000 We've confirmed it!
01:55:04.000 So they just want to know that they asked.
01:55:06.000 They don't even ask him if he did it again.
01:55:08.000 They don't go to the store and ask the store owner, has anything been stolen?
01:55:11.000 They don't go to the police and say, have these things been stolen?
01:55:13.000 They say, this source claimed Donald Trump did a backflip off of the Eiffel Tower and landed perfectly in a superhero pose, shattering the earth beneath his feet.
01:55:22.000 And then the person who claimed that is like a crazy guy in an alley going, Donald Trump!
01:55:28.000 Back above the Eiffel Tower!
01:55:29.000 Superhero landing!
01:55:30.000 So when like the New York Times gets an anonymous source and then the Washington Post wants to confirm it, do they go to the New York Times and then they get special access?
01:55:37.000 They try and track down the source.
01:55:40.000 So it's supposed to be, an independent verification would be like, if someone claimed Trump stole a bag of jewels, You'd hit up the jewelry store and say, was a bag of jewels stolen from your store by the president?
01:55:50.000 And if they say yes, you say, well, this is the guy telling me it literally happened.
01:55:53.000 He told them that.
01:55:55.000 But then you'd have to go to the police and get evidence.
01:55:59.000 So can you show me footage of it happening?
01:56:01.000 Can you show?
01:56:01.000 So you need like three sources to confirm.
01:56:04.000 The store owner, so it typically could refer to like multiple people.
01:56:09.000 But let's say you have the police chief saying, yeah, we definitely, we're tracking this store, we got the police report, here's what they said, here are the witnesses, and we've seen the evidence.
01:56:17.000 Or, you've got a homeless guy in the back alley, the store owner, and the cop who responded.
01:56:23.000 And so you ask to the homeless guy, what did you see?
01:56:25.000 I saw Donald Trump run out of this building carrying a bag of jewels.
01:56:27.000 Interesting.
01:56:28.000 You say, go to the store owner.
01:56:29.000 Yeah, Donald Trump came in here, smashed the glass, stole the bag of jewels.
01:56:32.000 Then you go to the cop.
01:56:32.000 I was sitting in front of my car, I saw Trump come in carrying a hammer, I hear a smash, and then the store owner starts screaming.
01:56:38.000 That sounds like you've got pretty good confirmation.
01:56:41.000 You'd still want to be very careful on a story like that about the president.
01:56:45.000 They are so... like, the bar is on the floor.
01:56:49.000 There's no limbo here, man.
01:56:51.000 You would have to, like, Ant-Man down to the quantum realm to try and limbo under that bar.
01:56:58.000 The standards are so low.
01:56:59.000 Is this because there's no punishment for getting it wrong?
01:57:01.000 Definitely.
01:57:01.000 There's actually a reward for getting it wrong.
01:57:03.000 If I put out a story right now, if I was like, BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE, DONALD TRUMP DID A TRIPLE BACKFLIP OFF THE WHITE HOUSE, landed in a superhero pose, million views, I get all that money from ad revenue, and then I wait a day, and I go, we have a correction, 6 in the morning, we have a correction issue, Donald Trump didn't actually do the backflip, and we're sorry for the error.
01:57:22.000 I still got the views, I still made the money, I pay nothing back, and the retraction makes money too!
01:57:27.000 Oh my gosh.
01:57:28.000 They're incentivized to actually lie.
01:57:31.000 Whoa!
01:57:32.000 Or be flippant with their truth.
01:57:36.000 The mainstream media is not in the business of providing you with truth.
01:57:40.000 They're in the business of getting your attention.
01:57:43.000 So they're better off letting bunk stories go through because they will make tons of money.
01:57:48.000 And then they just gotta apologize if it's wrong.
01:57:51.000 It's messed up.
01:57:52.000 But the best part is when they were like, Donald Trump called World War I, you know, the World War I dead losers.
01:57:58.000 And I'm like, get out of here, man.
01:58:00.000 I don't believe that.
01:58:01.000 Yeah, you gotta be, you gotta be skeptical.
01:58:04.000 You've got Trump Derangement Syndrome to believe that Donald Trump's sitting there looking at graves and going, what a bunch of losers!
01:58:09.000 Like that's a comic book villain version of Trump written by a 15 year old who was like, and then the orange man said the veterans were losers and suckers.
01:58:18.000 He's not a villain.
01:58:18.000 I think this is the point is he's not a comic book villain.
01:58:20.000 He's like a real guy doing his best.
01:58:22.000 I don't tell.
01:58:23.000 Can you, can you picture any person, anyone ever looking at a grave and going, what a loser?
01:58:28.000 No.
01:58:28.000 No!
01:58:29.000 Like, this worldview they have of the president is just nonsensical.
01:58:34.000 Did he actually say something about World War I death being losers?
01:58:37.000 Like, the side that lost the war or something?
01:58:39.000 The story?
01:58:40.000 Well, I'm pretty sure we won World War I.
01:58:43.000 Yeah, the Allied forces won.
01:58:46.000 Technically nobody won that war.
01:58:47.000 It was horrible.
01:58:48.000 Right, exactly.
01:58:49.000 So the official story was that Trump cancelled his trip to the Ayn Marn Cemetery because he thought the veterans were losers and suckers and didn't want to get his hair wet.
01:58:58.000 It's been confirmed by numerous sources that's not true.
01:59:01.000 21 sources?
01:59:02.000 Oh my gosh.
01:59:02.000 Is that what it was?
01:59:03.000 Yep, at last count it was 21 different sources.
01:59:05.000 John Bolton, who hates Trump, defended him, saying, that's not true, we cancelled this because of rain, I was there, I heard him saying it, and they were like, but maybe a different point Trump said it, and he goes, I can't prove a negative.
01:59:17.000 Maybe someone said something, but I was there and this didn't happen.
01:59:21.000 I have a really good friend who, a few years ago, was like, you know, it's okay to use dirty tactics to get him out of office.
01:59:27.000 And I was like, dude, that's what the Italian fascists did.
01:59:29.000 They decided to use violence because they thought it was so bad.
01:59:32.000 It was okay.
01:59:34.000 They justified.
01:59:35.000 And you saw where it led.
01:59:36.000 You can't do that.
01:59:36.000 Did you see what Noam Chomsky said?
01:59:38.000 No, not really.
01:59:39.000 He was asked about Antifa.
01:59:41.000 It's funny how they really don't like the guy anymore.
01:59:44.000 Because he's pro-free speech, and he's anti-violence.
01:59:47.000 He's great.
01:59:48.000 He's like a clean slate.
01:59:49.000 He said, when we enter the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins, and that is not us.
01:59:54.000 And I was like, here, here, good sir.
01:59:55.000 You do not want to see the true, like, brute of a whole bunch of, like, right-wing militias that are trained, that are hungry.
02:00:03.000 You know, what I was saying is that you gotta be careful there.
02:00:05.000 I think many of the militias we've seen throughout this country are really just overhyped by the press.
02:00:09.000 They're like, oh no, militias!
02:00:10.000 I'm like, it's a regular guy with a gun and a vest.
02:00:13.000 And, like, his friends and his community, and they're armed and they're defending their community, it's not that big of a deal.
02:00:18.000 There are extremist groups, however, who want any excuse to purge their ideological enemies.
02:00:23.000 It makes me nervous when they start running for office.
02:00:26.000 That's when I start wondering.
02:00:27.000 Well, who's running for office?
02:00:28.000 Some girl was running for office that was, like, saying Black Lives Matter was a great thing and that we need to support it.
02:00:34.000 And, like, I don't know where it was.
02:00:35.000 I don't have the data in front of me.
02:00:36.000 The left is entertaining extremists.
02:00:38.000 Like, there's a mayoral candidate in Portland who says she's overtly Antifa.
02:00:42.000 We've seen all the violence from these people.
02:00:43.000 That's when you've got to start paying attention.
02:00:45.000 But the conservatives are getting rid of these people.
02:00:47.000 They're like, we don't want them around.
02:00:49.000 And so I'm like, if I have to have President Trump and a bunch of Republicans who I really disagree with, but at least we all agree on the fact this country exists, I have no choice.
02:00:57.000 You can't vote for Joe Biden because he's actually negotiating with people who have these insane views and entertain violence.
02:01:05.000 And then he's trying to come off like, but I'm tough on crime.
02:01:07.000 Yeah, you were, but now you're just like falling asleep.
02:01:11.000 Yeah.
02:01:11.000 He's lame.
02:01:11.000 If you compare him to like seven years ago, he was so sharp back in 2011, 2012.
02:01:16.000 Yeah, who was it that was saying he's declined just over the last four years?
02:01:19.000 By like nine million people?
02:01:22.000 I think he's chilled out.
02:01:24.000 Yeah, he has.
02:01:24.000 I think he's like, he used to be very angry.
02:01:27.000 You know, he was like insulting people and mocking them.
02:01:31.000 He still does a little bit, but he's really chilled out.
02:01:33.000 When was that article from that he said the Kool-Aid?
02:01:35.000 Was that from a long time ago?
02:01:37.000 I think that was recent, actually.
02:01:38.000 Yeah, that was from June.
02:01:40.000 But that's a private phone call.
02:01:41.000 These days, that's a long time.
02:01:42.000 It's a private phone call.
02:01:43.000 Right.
02:01:44.000 I'm talking about, like, he did a press conference recently where he was like, I'm not gonna insult this person, they'll get mad at me.
02:01:48.000 And I was like, hey, that was pretty good.
02:01:50.000 You know, you're figuring it out, you know?
02:01:51.000 Dude.
02:01:53.000 So here's a good one.
02:01:54.000 Evil Me says, nice job with your earlier video today, Tim.
02:01:56.000 You snuck in a rickroll.
02:01:58.000 Yes, I heard that.
02:01:59.000 I enjoy your sense of humor and enjoy seeing it more often.
02:02:02.000 I said something like, you know, Trump supporters are never gonna, you know, let Trump down.
02:02:06.000 They're never gonna, you know, hurt him or something like that.
02:02:09.000 Yeah, it was great.
02:02:09.000 I was giggling.
02:02:10.000 Just in the flow.
02:02:11.000 That was great.
02:02:12.000 But my point was still apt with the rickroll.
02:02:15.000 100% correct, yeah.
02:02:16.000 They're diehard.
02:02:17.000 I don't know if that's the right phrase.
02:02:19.000 Yeah.
02:02:19.000 Oh, this is a sad one.
02:02:20.000 Cody Evans says, A person is smart.
02:02:22.000 People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.
02:02:25.000 You know it.
02:02:26.000 Agent K?
02:02:26.000 Yeah, men in black.
02:02:27.000 They are wild animals.
02:02:29.000 Less government is more, says Tim.
02:02:31.000 You're a liberal with American ideals.
02:02:32.000 I love it.
02:02:33.000 How do I go through your vetting process to be a normal person guest on your show?
02:02:37.000 I, like everyone, have a story and opinions.
02:02:38.000 Thank you.
02:02:39.000 We are not yet there.
02:02:41.000 So, uh, to the point where we're actually going to be trying to find, you know, some regular people.
02:02:46.000 You're afraid to talk about this, right?
02:02:47.000 No, not actually.
02:02:48.000 We just want to get regular people on the show.
02:02:50.000 Yeah, dude.
02:02:50.000 Like, you know, Bob, Bob, the local gardening guy.
02:02:53.000 Oh, we should get gardeners and stuff.
02:02:54.000 Yeah, just like working class people, you know what I mean?
02:02:57.000 Because I'm, I'm, I'm particularly anti-elitist.
02:02:59.000 I hate the establishment elites.
02:03:01.000 I hate all that.
02:03:02.000 And I want to hear what, you know, look, there's a lot of regular people who are going to be like, I have no idea.
02:03:06.000 But there's going to be a lot of regular people who are going to say things like, look, my taxes because of this bill.
02:03:11.000 I was talking to a dude about the minimum wage law in New Jersey, and he was talking about how it devastated a whole bunch of businesses.
02:03:18.000 He's like, listen, man, we got a bunch of small businesses that don't make money.
02:03:23.000 Like they make just enough for everyone to get a little bit.
02:03:26.000 And the business owners make just above minimum wage, the same as the employees.
02:03:30.000 And then when they raise the minimum wage, all of a sudden now the business goes under immediately.
02:03:34.000 Because you've got to understand it's not just about paying those wages, it's about the taxes that go on top.
02:03:38.000 Because employers have to pay a tax too.
02:03:41.000 Oh, on top of the wage.
02:03:43.000 So the taxes go up as well.
02:03:44.000 Yep.
02:03:45.000 Yep.
02:03:46.000 So a lot of people don't know this.
02:03:47.000 Employers pay a portion of the taxes for the employees to the government.
02:03:51.000 So the employer and the employee split a tax.
02:03:53.000 I forgot what the percentage is.
02:03:55.000 And so they were like, now these businesses are looking at increasing the cost of their wages, but the business isn't increasing.
02:04:01.000 It's an artificial increase over time.
02:04:02.000 And then they're looking at the taxes on top of how much they pay have to go up too.
02:04:06.000 So it's not just the wage hike, it's the wage plus tax.
02:04:09.000 And so that was really interesting.
02:04:10.000 It was a regular person.
02:04:12.000 What if the government covered the tax hike?
02:04:15.000 Or just subsidize it?
02:04:17.000 Like not impose it?
02:04:18.000 But subsidize means they get they tax somebody for money to cover.
02:04:21.000 You see what I'm saying?
02:04:22.000 You're just basically saying that you tax something else.
02:04:24.000 Or what if they just don't add a tax to the minimum wage hike?
02:04:27.000 Now you're speaking my language.
02:04:28.000 Well, it's because it's the employment tax.
02:04:31.000 That would be a major overhaul of the system, and at what point would they restore it?
02:04:35.000 Or just keep the employment tax at what it was for like $8.95 an hour and don't add for the next $7.50.
02:04:41.000 It's not just that.
02:04:41.000 Imagine you have a restaurant where your margins are razor thin.
02:04:43.000 I know what you mean.
02:04:44.000 And then all of a sudden your staff is getting a 10, 20, 30 percent increase.
02:04:48.000 Right.
02:04:48.000 And you're like, we don't have that.
02:04:50.000 We barely break even.
02:04:51.000 Yeah.
02:04:52.000 Now your business is gone.
02:04:53.000 Interesting.
02:04:54.000 That's the danger of socializing businesses.
02:04:57.000 Well, it's a danger of increasing the minimum wage, you know?
02:05:03.000 Let's see, Christian Robertson says, Forgot to say, but if you visit Norway, visit Storefjord in Northern and stay at my hotel for free.
02:05:12.000 I just love how you spread the truth and you deserve all the support you get.
02:05:15.000 That sounds fun, if I ever make it that way.
02:05:17.000 I was in Bergen, I think I was just in Bergen, it's the only place I've been to.
02:05:21.000 I made a little video about it, this is crazy, I made a video about the, it's called, I think it's called the Isdal Woman?
02:05:26.000 The Ice Woman of Norway.
02:05:27.000 Oh, I remember this.
02:05:29.000 And then we went to look back at it.
02:05:30.000 And it was gone.
02:05:31.000 What?
02:05:31.000 The video?
02:05:32.000 What happened?
02:05:33.000 I didn't delete it.
02:05:34.000 I loved this video.
02:05:35.000 Nice woman.
02:05:36.000 So in Bergen, Norway, there's a woman who was found like up in the mountains.
02:05:39.000 We went there and she was found dead.
02:05:42.000 And they said it was like a smoke inhalation or something.
02:05:43.000 It's been a while since I filmed this video.
02:05:45.000 And some theories are that she was an Israeli spy tracking down former Nazis.
02:05:49.000 Whoa.
02:05:50.000 Yeah.
02:05:51.000 I think I've heard of that.
02:05:52.000 Crazy story.
02:05:53.000 I made a video about it.
02:05:54.000 We interviewed local experts.
02:05:55.000 One day, someone was telling me that a bunch of my videos were gone.
02:05:59.000 And I was trying to look for the video to show someone, because I love that video.
02:06:02.000 It's really old.
02:06:03.000 Gone.
02:06:03.000 Dude, I saw a crazy video of an Israeli soldier beating an American woman, and she was screaming, I'm an American!
02:06:08.000 Stop!
02:06:09.000 What are you doing?
02:06:09.000 I don't know.
02:06:10.000 That's weird.
02:06:10.000 I don't know.
02:06:11.000 Oh, that's a great question.
02:06:14.000 Why did my video on the Isdal Woman disappear?
02:06:16.000 I don't know.
02:06:17.000 That's weird.
02:06:18.000 Conspiracy theories abound.
02:06:19.000 I remember that.
02:06:20.000 Why do videos disappear at all?
02:06:21.000 Oh, that's a great question.
02:06:22.000 I would like to know that.
02:06:23.000 Because YouTube's like, this offends me.
02:06:24.000 Get rid of it.
02:06:25.000 Because someone owns this private company.
02:06:27.000 Because as we all know, that the headquarters for YouTube is on a mountain, it's like a
02:06:33.000 mountain cliffside, and there's like a winding road up to a giant, you know, Transylvanian
02:06:37.000 style Dracula castle, and they're sitting in big, evil, gothic looking chairs, and they're
02:06:42.000 Who will we ban today from YouTube?
02:06:44.000 And the Ice Woman's like, the man that made a video about me.
02:06:47.000 No, they're looking at a monitor, and there's like a grandma holding a cat, and it's like Grandma's Cat Channel, and they're like, HAHAHA!
02:06:53.000 And then grandma's and then grandma's sitting at home with her cat and she's like I made just enough money this month to pay for my medical bills and then like YouTube goes oh The algorithm the AI algorithm that's on a rampage right now.
02:07:05.000 The Terminator is not gonna be walking around shooting people He's gonna be banning and censoring people dude.
02:07:09.000 That's how it that's how it started I don't know if you saw Terminator 1.5.
02:07:11.000 You want to know what's crazier Terminator Terminator look We're not- we're never gonna see a world where robots march around killing people.
02:07:18.000 You wanna know what the world's gonna be?
02:07:20.000 A bunch of nanodrones going into your ears?
02:07:22.000 Nope.
02:07:23.000 It's gonna be you waking up being like, I- I- I- You're gonna look at your phone and you're gonna see stuff, and it's gonna perfectly predict and manipulate your behavior.
02:07:31.000 To where you're like, I need to go to the store and buy, you know, a- a- a shovel!
02:07:37.000 Oh, because they want to work synergistically with us.
02:07:39.000 The AI doesn't want to destroy us, it wants to use us.
02:07:41.000 But, but, well, I don't, I think if you're talking about like a total sentient AI, I'm talking about, if we made an AI, it's not going to have emotions and feelings and goals like we do.
02:07:50.000 You know, have, have you seen the, the, you ever watched, you watched Doctor Who?
02:07:53.000 Only a couple episodes.
02:07:54.000 There's one where there's, they, they go to this planet where there's a colony and there's no humans.
02:07:59.000 And it turns out the goal of the robots was to keep people happy.
02:08:03.000 But when someone died, everyone got sad.
02:08:06.000 And then the robots realized that if a sad person came in contact with a happy person, happy person became sad.
02:08:12.000 You know why?
02:08:13.000 Because they told the happy person someone died.
02:08:15.000 So they decided the only way to stop this was to kill the sad people.
02:08:19.000 Uh-oh.
02:08:19.000 But then it makes the other people sad!
02:08:21.000 Uh-oh.
02:08:22.000 So they had to walk around with fake smiles like, I'm happy!
02:08:25.000 I'm happy!
02:08:26.000 Interesting.
02:08:26.000 Yeah.
02:08:27.000 So the A.I.' 's, their goal's not gonna be like we imagine it.
02:08:30.000 Like, it's not gonna be a giant machine being like, I am your overlord of humanity.
02:08:34.000 Do as I say.
02:08:35.000 It's gonna be like, people like eating corn.
02:08:38.000 And then it's gonna shift our economy into a corn economy.
02:08:41.000 And you're not gonna realize it.
02:08:42.000 You're gonna be sitting one day in your house made of corn, with corn everywhere, and you're gonna be like, life is good.
02:08:46.000 Yeah, it's kind of where it's at now with Google Maps.
02:08:48.000 Definitely.
02:08:50.000 Or just with Twitter and Facebook and the weird things we believe.
02:08:53.000 We're going to AI hell, man.
02:08:55.000 Dude, the ads that pop up totally brainwash us.
02:08:58.000 Yes.
02:08:59.000 Whether we realize it or not.
02:09:00.000 Yeah, man.
02:09:02.000 Be vigilant, homies.
02:09:04.000 Here we go.
02:09:04.000 Seven Crevels says, check out Officer Tatum.
02:09:07.000 Talk about Breonna Taylor.
02:09:08.000 Just put out an update.
02:09:09.000 Truth isn't what everyone is saying.
02:09:11.000 Love your work and would love to be on the show.
02:09:13.000 So we're getting really close to relocating.
02:09:16.000 They've literally got to lay the cables for fiber optic.
02:09:18.000 Otherwise, we just don't have the internet to do it.
02:09:20.000 I'm going to be doing a trial run this weekend to see if I can get internet to work.
02:09:24.000 But it's risky because it's really crummy internet.
02:09:27.000 And like, we need a good consistent You know, feed to actually upload the live show.
02:09:33.000 We should have enough.
02:09:34.000 We'll give it a try.
02:09:35.000 I just don't want to risk it, you know?
02:09:38.000 Philippi says, Villains who twirl their mustache are easy to spot.
02:09:42.000 Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged.
02:09:45.000 Vigilance.
02:09:46.000 This is the price we must continually pay.
02:09:49.000 Vigilance.
02:09:50.000 The energy that you use.
02:09:52.000 Glucose.
02:09:53.000 Sugar.
02:09:54.000 Yeah!
02:09:55.000 I have a book called Willpower and it all comes down to glucose.
02:09:58.000 Really?
02:09:58.000 Yeah, they would do like studies where they do simple math problems and they would give a kid like lemonade before they did it or nothing, and the kids that did nothing would just lose interest.
02:10:05.000 Glucose is fuel for the brain, man.
02:10:07.000 Yeah, energy.
02:10:09.000 Brian Bourgeois says, we all need to band together and realize we all have more in common than we have different, Trump is not part of the club, and why they, MSM and establishment politicians, hate him.
02:10:20.000 Definitely.
02:10:21.000 Kudos.
02:10:22.000 What is it?
02:10:22.000 Ref-rem?
02:10:23.000 New segregation is no accident.
02:10:25.000 It's an outgrowth of guilty desire for atonement via what they perceive the oppressed want.
02:10:29.000 They think it will satiate, but without forgiveness, first, there can't be peace.
02:10:41.000 Mike Carbone says, the more you pet the cat and tell me your ideas, the more devious I
02:10:45.000 think you guys are.
02:10:46.000 Yeah, Ian's got Betsy on his lap and he's like, I believe we should... She was making me.
02:10:51.000 ...tax the poor.
02:10:53.000 Remember when Bloomberg, did you see Bloomberg said tax the poor?
02:10:55.000 No, what happened?
02:10:56.000 He literally said the poor people are too stupid, we should tax the poor.
02:10:58.000 What?
02:10:59.000 That guy is disillusioned.
02:11:01.000 Dude.
02:11:02.000 He's distanced.
02:11:03.000 Simius the first says the dictionary definition of a cult is a social group that is defined by its unusual religious spiritual or philosophical beliefs or by or by it can be or it can be defined as a common interest in particular personality interesting Here we go.
02:11:19.000 Tim, etymology of sin goes further back to ancient Greece.
02:11:22.000 It means to miss the mark.
02:11:23.000 It means an inability to be morally perfect.
02:11:26.000 It's not just about violating the religious creed.
02:11:27.000 Yeah, Jordan Peterton.
02:11:29.000 Jordan Peterson talks about that.
02:11:29.000 Peterton.
02:11:31.000 That's a cool name.
02:11:32.000 I like that.
02:11:32.000 Alright, let's see.
02:11:33.000 Where are we at?
02:11:34.000 We got a big old jump in Super Chats.
02:11:35.000 Politically Defiant says, Lydia, do you watch any faith-based animations?
02:11:39.000 Like Adventures in Odyssey, VeggieTales, or Nest productions like Swan Princess?
02:11:43.000 Yeah, I used to watch that stuff.
02:11:45.000 I had no choice, like with Parents' Night Out or whatever, we had to watch all of those.
02:11:50.000 VeggieTales?
02:11:51.000 I didn't know that was religious.
02:11:52.000 No, VeggieTales is very religious.
02:11:53.000 It's very cute though.
02:11:54.000 The Jim says, hey Tim, venting about living in California.
02:11:57.000 I fought to get out of debt and now I finally have a stable job and opportunities. Everything is going bad.
02:12:02.000 Torn on bailing or running for office. PS would still love to see you talk with Don from Plebian Media. I am not
02:12:10.000 familiar with them.
02:12:11.000 Nope, I gotta look them up.
02:12:13.000 Run for office.
02:12:15.000 Do it.
02:12:15.000 Make a difference.
02:12:16.000 Because I'll tell you what, it was basically what Billy Prempeh was saying when he was here.
02:12:20.000 He's a conservative running in North Jersey where it's deep blue.
02:12:24.000 He's basically saying if the Republicans ignore these deep blue areas there will never be a change.
02:12:31.000 So you might not win, but you need to keep talking to people, shaking hands and, you know, challenging the establishment.
02:12:37.000 It's scary and almost painful to speak the truth in front of people that don't agree with you because of the blowback.
02:12:43.000 But like, if you don't do it, I mean, this is the great human conundrum.
02:12:47.000 We have to speak truth to power, which can be, you know, it can be... It's hard.
02:12:52.000 Yeah.
02:12:52.000 You have to rise to the occasion.
02:12:54.000 But it's worth it.
02:12:55.000 I think if we don't do it, we kind of see what happens, you know?
02:12:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:12:59.000 In the metaphor of what's going on right now.
02:13:02.000 So someone asks, let's see, Mandalore says, were there plans to have Viva Frey on?
02:13:07.000 There are, in fact, plans to have him on.
02:13:09.000 Yeah, he's awesome.
02:13:09.000 So they're a little bit on hold because of the quarantine.
02:13:12.000 He can't really cross the border easily.
02:13:14.000 Oh, he's in Canada.
02:13:15.000 Yeah, he is in Canada.
02:13:16.000 Bummer.
02:13:16.000 Poor guy.
02:13:17.000 But we are going to get him on.
02:13:18.000 That is just up in the air right now.
02:13:20.000 Cool.
02:13:21.000 Ty991 says, Tim, you have no idea.
02:13:24.000 You don't see the real right-wing militias.
02:13:26.000 They don't advertise.
02:13:27.000 These are dudes who train every day and run, shoot houses.
02:13:31.000 If they actually come out, they're stacking up for high.
02:13:34.000 Interesting.
02:13:35.000 Alright, we got one more.
02:13:36.000 We got one more.
02:13:37.000 CoinFlipWolf says, seriously, how do people not think these rioters are terrorists?
02:13:41.000 Have we gotten so far into 1984 that people can't see what's right in front of them?
02:13:45.000 Yeah, when they go to houses, when they jump on top of them, when they do the fist in front of your face and demand you salute, when they threaten to start fires.
02:13:53.000 This is the crazy thing, like, they've been starting fires all throughout Oregon, and now there's wildfires everywhere.
02:13:57.000 Dude.
02:13:58.000 Not smart.
02:13:59.000 That's domestic.
02:14:00.000 I think when they went to the restaurant.
02:14:01.000 I'm not saying they started the fire.
02:14:02.000 Right, right, right.
02:14:02.000 That was like domestic terrorism in my view.
02:14:05.000 That's politically motivated.
02:14:06.000 That's what we have Homeland Security for.
02:14:08.000 That's the real reason we have it.
02:14:09.000 Look at you, you hippie.
02:14:11.000 No!
02:14:12.000 I value authority now on another level.
02:14:15.000 No, it's different.
02:14:15.000 Like I used to be.
02:14:16.000 Let him go.
02:14:17.000 I had a guild in Ultima Online.
02:14:18.000 Did you guys ever play Ultima Online?
02:14:20.000 No.
02:14:20.000 I vaguely remember it, though.
02:14:21.000 My guild didn't want to go to war.
02:14:22.000 There's a guild that wanted to go to war with my guild.
02:14:24.000 I was like, we're a peace guild, so I wouldn't do it.
02:14:26.000 And this other guild kept killing off our members, and I wouldn't go fight back.
02:14:31.000 And all my people started leaving because I wouldn't fight back.
02:14:34.000 And after that, I realized there is a value to stamping your fist down.
02:14:38.000 What have you done?
02:14:39.000 I was gonna spin it!
02:14:40.000 You broke the UFO.
02:14:41.000 And clamping down with authority.
02:14:43.000 There's just a value to that that's like, if you don't do it, then everything will fall apart.
02:14:47.000 You know, when I play Civilization, I never declare war on other countries.
02:14:51.000 I mind my own business.
02:14:52.000 But I assure you, you come to my shores, I will crush you.
02:14:56.000 Yes.
02:14:57.000 But how far do you go?
02:14:57.000 Do you take all of their land?
02:14:59.000 It depends on how egregious their disrespect is.
02:15:06.000 In some circumstances, I'll just raise the city.
02:15:08.000 I don't want your cities.
02:15:09.000 I'll build my civilization.
02:15:11.000 I always very much will prioritize research to build up power, weapons, and better forces.
02:15:18.000 And then when they start acting a fool, You know, at first, I'll just say, hey, hey.
02:15:23.000 But if they keep pushing, I'll just crush their capital.
02:15:26.000 You know, you can't raise the capital, though.
02:15:27.000 But I'll just, like, wipe out some of their cities, and be like, now I'm gonna go back and mind my own business, and you stay away from me.
02:15:33.000 It doesn't bode well, because I guess the AI for civilization doesn't understand these complex political, you know, things.
02:15:39.000 Like, everyone gets mad at you, and they're like, you killed people.
02:15:41.000 Oh, if you take it too far, yeah.
02:15:42.000 They invaded my country and tried stealing one of my cities, so I went back and I told them to F off.
02:15:47.000 Your response was, this is kind of like the real world with total war, like if there's an invasion or like a bomber bombs a city, you don't nuke the capital as a response because you don't take total, you have a equal response.
02:16:01.000 And so the game kind of has that built in.
02:16:03.000 But I do the same, I'll take their entire country.
02:16:05.000 If they mess with me, I'll take over every city of theirs, assimilate.
02:16:08.000 You assimilate, you declare war.
02:16:10.000 Now you're a peaceful country.
02:16:11.000 You made the final mistake.
02:16:12.000 And then you end up winning because everyone attacked you.
02:16:14.000 Anyway, we're going to wrap it up.
02:16:16.000 We're a little bit over.
02:16:17.000 Thanks again, everybody.
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02:16:39.000 We will be back tomorrow.
02:16:40.000 What's tomorrow?
02:16:40.000 Thursday?
02:16:41.000 Tomorrow's Thursday.
02:16:42.000 We'll be back tomorrow.
02:16:43.000 So we are scheduled to have Kimberly Klasek on Friday.
02:16:45.000 I'm hoping that, you know, a lot of the COVID has really made it made it really, really difficult for a lot of people.
02:16:51.000 And I'm hoping that because we originally had Kimberly scheduled for last week, but she had to cancel.
02:16:56.000 So I hope everything goes smoothly.
02:16:57.000 I hope so, too.
02:16:58.000 And she'll be on Friday.
02:16:58.000 Hey, why don't you smash the like button while you're at it and subscribe to this channel?
02:17:03.000 That is a good point.
02:17:04.000 You're going to get some mo.
02:17:05.000 And you can't spin the UFO because you pounded the table.
02:17:08.000 But I'm going to try.
02:17:08.000 All right.
02:17:09.000 It's not going to work.
02:17:10.000 We've gotta go feed the cats, everybody.
02:17:12.000 Thanks for hanging out.