Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Leftist Group Jane's Revenge Calls For Terror Campaign Over Roe v. Wade w-Larry Sharpe

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:45.000 you so we are all waiting patiently for the Supreme Court to

00:01:09.000 issue their ruling on on Rowe and Casey, as well as Bruins.

00:01:13.000 So we could see gun rights expand, and we could also see Roe v. Wade overturned, as well as Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

00:01:19.000 And we're waiting patiently.

00:01:21.000 Because every week, they keep saying, Monday is opinion day, it's gonna happen, and then nothing happens.

00:01:26.000 And they're like, well, it could be Wednesday, and then nothing happens.

00:01:28.000 And then they're like, well, there's one more week, and then it's Tuesday, because Juneteenth was celebrated yesterday.

00:01:33.000 And then they're like, well, maybe it's gonna be Thursday.

00:01:35.000 And then they're like, well, maybe it'll be the week after that.

00:01:38.000 And it just feels like they're just dragging it out, probably to desensitize us from the story because it's gonna get overturned and people are gonna lose their minds.

00:01:46.000 We have this far-left terror organization called Jane's Revenge. 0.87

00:01:50.000 Maybe I'm being a little too generous in calling them an organization, but flyers have started to pop up all over DC threatening terrorism.

00:02:00.000 Look, I'm not going to play the game the media plays.

00:02:02.000 They're threatening violence and riots.

00:02:04.000 But we know what it is.

00:02:06.000 It is violence as a threat to sway political opinion.

00:02:10.000 These people Ruth sent us are showing up in front of Supreme Court justices homes and a man just tried to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice.

00:02:17.000 They are doing everything they can to try and stop this from getting overturned.

00:02:23.000 Short of actually caught, well, I shouldn't say short of, they caught the guy who was trying to kill Kavanaugh, so it seems like, yeah, they're doing everything they can.

00:02:31.000 In the event it gets overturned, Jane's Revenge says there will be violence. 0.98

00:02:36.000 The GOP has called on the federal government, the DHS, and the FBI to label this group a domestic terror organization.

00:02:41.000 I don't think the federal government actually does that.

00:02:43.000 And the FBI says they are investigating some 20-plus pro-life centers or politicians who have been attacked, had their offices attacked, vandalized, or even firebombed in some instances.

00:02:54.000 You know, it's getting pretty spicy out there.

00:02:56.000 And just thinking about what's been going on over the past several years, I think a lot of people don't realize how insane things are.

00:03:03.000 If I were to tell you four years ago, that in four years, the Supreme Court would be on the verge of overturning Roe v. Wade and Casey, and a far-left group will be threatening to burn down pregnancy centers, commit acts of violence against people, and someone would try to kill a sitting Supreme Court Justice, you'd have told me I was nuts.

00:03:23.000 There's no way that's gonna happen.

00:03:25.000 And here we are!

00:03:26.000 I really encourage people, can you find a video of yourself from 2018, just like watch it and try and remember what you were thinking back then?

00:03:33.000 Because I think we are frogs in a pot and the water is starting to boil.

00:03:38.000 It's getting nuts.

00:03:39.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:03:40.000 We've also got the economy.

00:03:41.000 I really want to talk about the potential for gun rights expansion.

00:03:45.000 With the New York case, Bruin, where they could potentially rule on concealed carry.

00:03:53.000 I think it's a one in a million chance they go broad with it.

00:03:55.000 But the general idea is they might require these Democrat states to issue concealed carry permits at the bare minimum.

00:04:01.000 And we think that's where it's going.

00:04:02.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:04:03.000 We've got some hilarity.

00:04:05.000 GOP, I think, what state was it?

00:04:07.000 Was it Michigan?

00:04:07.000 I can't remember what state it was.

00:04:08.000 No, no, Pennsylvania, I think.

00:04:10.000 Where they took this gun control bill and just copied and pasted constitutional carry over it as a way to defeat the bill.

00:04:16.000 It was brilliant.

00:04:18.000 So we'll talk about that, plus economy, war, international conflict, all that stuff.

00:04:22.000 Joe Biden is here.

00:04:23.000 And joining us to talk about all of this is Larry Sharp.

00:04:27.000 I'm here.

00:04:27.000 Thank you for having me.

00:04:28.000 You want to pull your mic up a little bit?

00:04:29.000 Is that good?

00:04:30.000 Is it better?

00:04:30.000 There you go.

00:04:31.000 So I'm here.

00:04:31.000 Yes.

00:04:32.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:04:33.000 Who are you and what are you doing?

00:04:34.000 I am a very handsome man who... All right.

00:04:38.000 And also humble of all my traits.

00:04:41.000 My modesty is second to none.

00:04:43.000 There's no doubt about that.

00:04:44.000 But yes, no, I'm running for governor of New York as a libertarian.

00:04:47.000 Still, it's like I keep punishing myself.

00:04:49.000 My second time around and I'm happy to be here.

00:04:51.000 Thanks.

00:04:52.000 Right on.

00:04:52.000 Cool.

00:04:53.000 We got Seamus.

00:04:54.000 I'm Seamus Coughlin.

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00:05:08.000 Hi everyone, Ian Crosland here.

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00:05:22.000 Ian, let's get rolling.

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00:06:17.000 That being said, let's jump over into that first story.

00:06:20.000 We got this one from The Independent.

00:06:22.000 Jane's revenge group appears to threaten violence if Supreme Court overturns Roe.

00:06:28.000 A flyer is calling for a night of rage in Washington D.C.

00:06:34.000 when the Supreme Court decision on Roe is handed down.

00:06:36.000 I chose this source, The Independent, because they're like left-leaning.

00:06:39.000 And I think it's funny that they're saying it appears they're threatening violence when

00:06:43.000 they're outright saying, you told us you would riot.

00:06:46.000 The militant abortion rights organization Jane's Revenge appears to be calling for a night

00:06:51.000 of rage in the nation's capital should the Supreme Court, as it is expected, overturn

00:06:56.000 Roe v. Wade later this month.

00:06:58.000 This is the organization that's already taken credit for the vandalism.

00:07:02.000 And I'm not sure, did they take credit for the firebombings, Seamus?

00:07:06.000 Let me look up that.

00:07:07.000 Let me look that up.

00:07:08.000 So we've had now, what, it's like 20 plus either pro-life politicians or pregnancy centers get vandalized, windows smashed out, and some were firebombed, more than one.

00:07:17.000 This is the organization that's taking credit for some of these acts of terror.

00:07:20.000 They're threatening more.

00:07:22.000 You combine that with the showing up in front of the Supreme Court justices' homes.

00:07:27.000 You combine that with the trying to take the life of a sitting Supreme Court justice.

00:07:31.000 And I mean, we've just been watching extreme violence over the past several years, and I gotta say, It really does feel like things are crazier than they've been in a very long time.

00:07:40.000 Yeah.

00:07:40.000 A hundred percent.

00:07:41.000 I completely agree.

00:07:42.000 I think that the, the, the worst part about this is it doesn't work.

00:07:47.000 So all it does is dig people deeper into their own.

00:07:50.000 Someone doesn't see that and go, oh, they're firebombing?

00:07:52.000 Well, you know what?

00:07:53.000 Now I'm on your side.

00:07:55.000 Nobody does that.

00:07:56.000 It just creates more violence.

00:07:58.000 It dehumanizes the other.

00:07:59.000 It validates violence as a way of feeling good about your issue.

00:08:04.000 If you're really upset about this, and I get if you are, I understand that viewpoint, then simply go to your state and have your state make sure that you can have legal and safe abortion in your state.

00:08:13.000 That's the actual answer if you care so much.

00:08:15.000 But I'll counter with this.

00:08:17.000 Please.

00:08:18.000 Violence doesn't work in terms of trying to get support for your cause and win for your cause.

00:08:23.000 But if you're trying to destabilize the country, to burn it down.

00:08:25.000 Yeah.

00:08:26.000 See, what happens is, I've been doing a lot of reading about Bleeding Kansas.

00:08:29.000 And that's, you know, some people are comparing what's happening now to Bleeding Kansas.

00:08:33.000 It was basically a statewide civil war in the territory of Kansas.

00:08:36.000 It ended because the Civil War started.

00:08:39.000 So it basically, from 1854 until 1861, you had this period of civil war, but in Kansas.

00:08:46.000 Pro-slavery groups and freestaters fighting and killing each other.

00:08:50.000 John Brown, who rose to notoriety due to bleeding Kansas, was angry that abolitionists were pacifists.

00:08:59.000 He didn't care to persuade anyone. 0.99

00:09:02.000 He just straight walked up to slave owners and blasted them, just killed them. 0.99

00:09:05.000 Killed five, just walked up to people with his kids, started killing people. 0.99

00:09:08.000 He did not care if anyone agreed with him or not. 0.96

00:09:09.000 He said, I'm done.

00:09:10.000 What ends up happening is, this causes an escalation on the other side.

00:09:15.000 So, if your goal is to win for your cause because you're hoping a stable country will say, we voted for this and now this rule will be enacted, that's a terrible idea.

00:09:25.000 This Jane's Revenge stuff, the only thing I can see is the outcome is going to be the inverse of what they presumably want.

00:09:33.000 People on the other side are going to counter it, but that will likely just lead to destabilization and more violence.

00:09:38.000 Yeah, I think, but the other issue is, right, if you're on the side, what media are you listening to and watching?

00:09:44.000 If you're watching media that says, well, this is in reaction to, if that's the media you're hearing, then it sounds like it's almost reasonable.

00:09:53.000 See, it's an attack on us, so we're being aggressive to defend against the bad people who are trying to hurt us.

00:09:59.000 So I'm not sure that it actually turns their side off.

00:10:03.000 If anything, it just makes us, to your point, it makes both people, both sides dig in harder.

00:10:08.000 And it hurts anyone in the middle because now if I say, hey, stop the violence, the right goes to me, well, they're killing us.

00:10:15.000 And the left goes, well, they'll kill, they're killing us. 0.99

00:10:18.000 You're a bad guy. 0.95

00:10:19.000 So now I don't hate one side or the other, so now I'm the bad guy too.

00:10:23.000 It actually, what it winds up doing is stifling the calm person.

00:10:26.000 The person says, can we, can we all get along?

00:10:29.000 That slave was that person.

00:10:31.000 Seamus, did you- Yeah, so Jane's Revenge has taken credit for various firebombings of- Wow.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, yes.

00:10:37.000 From what I'm reading here.

00:10:38.000 The FBI says they're investigating.

00:10:39.000 Yeah.

00:10:40.000 The GOP has demanded that they get labeled a domestic terror organization, but I don't think the federal government actually labels domestic terror organizations.

00:10:46.000 I don't know if that's a thing.

00:10:48.000 You had a lot of people on the right saying Antifa should be, and people on the left saying, like, the Klan or other right-wing groups should be, and the government's like, we don't label groups, we label actions.

00:10:56.000 Like, criminal actions or not.

00:10:58.000 I don't see de-escalation coming.

00:11:00.000 I've been saying this for a long time.

00:11:03.000 Uh, you know, in the intro to the show, I pointed out four years ago, five years ago, maybe even three years ago, if I went to you and said in three years time, a far leftist would attempt to assassinate a sitting Supreme Court justice because the court, because for the first time in history, a draft opinion had been leaked showing that Roe v. Wade, Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey was going to be overturned.

00:11:26.000 People were showing them in the streets, firebombing buildings.

00:11:28.000 You'd be like, No way!

00:11:30.000 You know what, though?

00:11:31.000 People told me that was never gonna happen.

00:11:32.000 The part of that that would surprise me the most was the possibility of Roe v. Wade being overturned.

00:11:38.000 Exactly!

00:11:38.000 I mean, the fact that the left would react violently is not something I think that would ever surprise me.

00:11:43.000 But this has to be, you know, this has to be slowly accepted.

00:11:48.000 And it has become, right?

00:11:49.000 Since the recent violence in the streets, right?

00:11:54.000 This has become more acceptable as normal, right?

00:11:56.000 And I'll give you a good example.

00:11:58.000 A historical one.

00:11:59.000 If it's, say, 1912-1913 Germany, and if you were to say to someone, hey, you know what? 0.98

00:12:07.000 30 years from now, you Germans will be systematically, you know, rounding up all your Jewish population and murdering them all. 1.00

00:12:13.000 They'd have been like, stop! 1.00

00:12:14.000 We're Germany!

00:12:14.000 We would never do that!

00:12:16.000 Come on, stop! 1.00

00:12:17.000 Yet 30 years later, they're doing it.

00:12:19.000 And if you were born, if you were born at that time, If you're a young woman, a young man born in, say, 1910, 1912 in Germany, you would have never thought to do such a thing.

00:12:29.000 It would have taken years for me to be brainwashed enough to do nothing, right?

00:12:34.000 To not be involved, but just let it happen and be like, well, yeah, I guess they kind of deserve it because they're the bad guys, as Sky Hitler said. 0.90

00:12:42.000 And I think we're finding a similar thing.

00:12:43.000 Again, my point is they're the bad guys, so it's okay.

00:12:47.000 Remember, people who do bad things always validate their bad behavior.

00:12:52.000 They don't think they're doing bad things.

00:12:54.000 They validate it somehow.

00:12:55.000 Well, exactly right.

00:12:55.000 No group of people who ever took power to oppress another group throughout all of history said, you know what?

00:13:00.000 We want to oppress somebody.

00:13:01.000 They go, those people are oppressing us, so we have to stop them.

00:13:04.000 And any and all means which are necessary are therefore justifiable because they're horrible people.

00:13:08.000 Yes.

00:13:09.000 And so when you look at this story, there's a really great lesson in media framing here.

00:13:14.000 How did the Independent title this?

00:13:16.000 Jane's Revenge Group appears to threaten violence.

00:13:18.000 No, no.

00:13:19.000 A terrorist organization, which has taken credit for firebombing pro-life organizations, as well as charities that are set up to help pregnant women care for their children, is threatening violence.

00:13:33.000 Not just threatening it, calling on more people to join in.

00:13:36.000 Yes.

00:13:37.000 Yo.

00:13:39.000 That's crazy.

00:13:39.000 You know, I do think that this is a crazy thing to say, but in wartime, terroristic violence does get people on your side.

00:13:47.000 For instance, like the American revolutionaries were terrorists, according to King George.

00:13:51.000 George Washington was a terrorist.

00:13:52.000 And Henry Knox attacked an armory in I think it was northern New York early, early on, killed a bunch of British guys, stole a bunch of British artillery, took it down to Washington outside Boston. 0.80

00:14:03.000 They sieged Boston.

00:14:05.000 They took Boston.

00:14:06.000 And then the French joined the Americans. 0.89

00:14:08.000 So if the Americans were losing the battle... The French didn't join because of that.

00:14:13.000 But it was a result of victory after victory and a belief that maybe the Americans could win.

00:14:18.000 If the Americans weren't winning, if they weren't doing this terroristic destruction, then the French never would have helped them and they would have been stomped out. 0.95

00:14:25.000 But we're not in war.

00:14:26.000 That's a wartime thing.

00:14:27.000 This is not a wartime thing.

00:14:28.000 My problem is people aren't upset about this.

00:14:31.000 That is my central issue, right?

00:14:34.000 If you look at, say, for example, in New York State recently, the Buffalo shooting, right?

00:14:38.000 Everyone's mad about that.

00:14:40.000 No one's like, yay!

00:14:41.000 Everyone's mad about that.

00:14:43.000 Regardless of what you think about this, the guns, or the bad guy, or the racist, or whatever you think, you're still not happy about that.

00:14:49.000 This is like whatevs, and that's my point.

00:14:52.000 There are enough people who aren't doing anything about it.

00:14:55.000 When they came after the judge, I really thought that this would be a big deal, coming after a Supreme Court judge.

00:15:05.000 And now we do nothing about that.

00:15:07.000 That is my problem, is the apathy.

00:15:10.000 That's my biggest issue.

00:15:12.000 I don't think it's apathy, and I don't think people are whatever about this.

00:15:15.000 I think they support it.

00:15:16.000 I think the left is happy about it.

00:15:18.000 And I think they're happy about what's going on in front of the homes.

00:15:21.000 Jen Psaki said, we certainly encourage more of this.

00:15:25.000 When they were showing up illegally in front of judges' homes to try and sway the court's opinion, which is a federal crime.

00:15:32.000 Then a guy who gets the address and information from these same protesters shows up to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice.

00:15:37.000 Now that guy gets arrested and charged.

00:15:39.000 Okay, that happened.

00:15:41.000 The protesters come back that same day and federal government does nothing.

00:15:46.000 My point is that the majority of the country doesn't self-identify as left or right like that.

00:15:53.000 They just think they're average people and they lean left or they lean right.

00:15:57.000 That middle is the people who should be angry.

00:16:01.000 People should say, look, I'm not a hardcore leftist or rightist, but I'm angry because this is unacceptable regardless of my left or right.

00:16:08.000 And that's what I'm saying.

00:16:08.000 People aren't saying that.

00:16:10.000 I don't think there's a middle.

00:16:10.000 You don't think so?

00:16:12.000 No, I think.

00:16:13.000 I'm kind of in the middle here.

00:16:14.000 No, there's one guy.

00:16:15.000 See, we got one.

00:16:16.000 No, you're not in the middle.

00:16:16.000 You know exactly what we're talking about.

00:16:18.000 You know, you know exactly what's going on.

00:16:19.000 But when the street violence kicked off in 2020, for instance, and they were bombing buildings and destroying buildings, I wanted Trump to send in the National Guard.

00:16:26.000 And I was like, why?

00:16:27.000 Day one, National Guard.

00:16:29.000 But then I started to question myself.

00:16:30.000 Am I an authoritarian for wanting the National Guard to come in?

00:16:34.000 That is not the middle.

00:16:36.000 You have two factions.

00:16:38.000 You go to the average person and say, what do you think about the fire bombings at pregnancy centers?

00:16:42.000 And they'll go, the what?

00:16:43.000 Yeah.

00:16:44.000 You go to other people and they'll say, I heard about that.

00:16:46.000 That's crazy.

00:16:46.000 We got to stop that.

00:16:47.000 Those are the factions.

00:16:49.000 So the faction of those who aren't paying attention, you're saying?

00:16:52.000 I usually call it the uninitiated and the discerning.

00:16:55.000 The people who are inquisitive and looking into the news, trying to understand what's happening in their world versus the people who don't want anything to do with it.

00:17:02.000 I've met a lot of those.

00:17:03.000 So most people, I think, well, I shouldn't say most people, but a lot of people, especially those who voted for Joe Biden, had no idea what was going on, have no idea what they're talking about at all.

00:17:15.000 So you go to them and you talk about any of this stuff and they're gonna go, what?

00:17:19.000 Here's a great example. You know, look, I can respect Bill Maher for calling out

00:17:24.000 entitled millennials and the woke and all that. But hearing him talk to Crystal Ball on his show

00:17:29.000 last Friday was laughable. She brought up how everyone keeps ragging on the mass printing of

00:17:35.000 money, but no one said anything in 2020 when the Fed printed trillions of dollars to pump into the

00:17:40.000 stock market to stop it from crashing. And Bill Maher goes, what are you talking about? Yes. Oh,

00:17:45.000 Bill, you do not have the position right now to challenge your guests after what happened

00:17:50.000 with Dennis Prager.

00:17:52.000 Crystal Ball was right.

00:17:53.000 Right.

00:17:54.000 And she's a progressive.

00:17:55.000 And she's right.

00:17:56.000 The Federal Reserve started printing up money to buy stocks and exits to bail out the stock exchange, the markets, because there was a fear it was going to tank.

00:18:03.000 And that was bad.

00:18:04.000 Yep.

00:18:05.000 So, Bill Maher.

00:18:06.000 That's Japanese-style stuff.

00:18:07.000 Japanese do it all the time.

00:18:08.000 And you know what?

00:18:08.000 If Bill Maher watched Freedom Tunes, he would have known that, because he did a video called Corona Capitalism.

00:18:12.000 This is my problem.

00:18:13.000 Here's a guy who has a show with a million viewers once a week.

00:18:17.000 It's a once-a-week show, he gets about a million in the ratings, and he doesn't know what happened two years ago with major massive Fed bailout spending.

00:18:26.000 That's like the biggest story of the year.

00:18:28.000 But it's not just that.

00:18:29.000 It's the hubris.

00:18:30.000 That's my problem.

00:18:32.000 I'm okay if he doesn't know, but then why is he aggressively pushing back?

00:18:35.000 He should go, oh, did that happen?

00:18:37.000 Oh, let me look at that.

00:18:38.000 Can I get a producer on this?

00:18:40.000 Yeah, get a producer to see if this happened.

00:18:41.000 You know, Crystal, that's a really great point.

00:18:44.000 I wish I had known about that.

00:18:45.000 Yeah.

00:18:45.000 No, he was wrong about Covington kids.

00:18:48.000 He didn't pay attention to that.

00:18:49.000 He was wrong when Dennis Prager on his show said they're putting menstrual tampons in the men's room.

00:18:53.000 He goes, no, what are you talking about?

00:18:55.000 This is exactly it.

00:18:57.000 Bill Maher personifies.

00:18:58.000 Now, he may be coming around, right?

00:19:00.000 All of a sudden- I like his libertarian streak.

00:19:02.000 Let's reward the good behavior.

00:19:04.000 Let's reward the good behavior.

00:19:06.000 Absolutely.

00:19:06.000 But this is my point.

00:19:07.000 I think he is a barometer for many of the, what you would probably assume is the middle.

00:19:14.000 If you have people who are blindly voting for the destruction of the country and their values and their economy and everything, I think Bill Maher represents exactly why.

00:19:26.000 They watch him, they listen to him.

00:19:28.000 Sure.

00:19:28.000 And he's years behind the curve in what's going on in this country.

00:19:32.000 So, I don't view it as there are political moderates and there are extremists.

00:19:36.000 I don't view it as far left, far right, and middle because, well, that makes no sense.

00:19:40.000 They call, I mean, you're libertarian, they call you right wing or far right or whatever.

00:19:43.000 They call me everything bad they can think of.

00:19:45.000 Exactly.

00:19:45.000 Yes, whatever they can call me.

00:19:47.000 They call me right wing and my politics are like centrist, liberal, libertarian.

00:19:51.000 It doesn't matter.

00:19:52.000 You know, I can sit here across from Seamus and we disagree on the abortion issue.

00:19:57.000 Traditionally, as this country did, but we're both far right.

00:20:00.000 There's no distinction among that group because they don't know what we're talking about.

00:20:04.000 That's the media, the liberal economic orders media apparatus slandering people, though.

00:20:09.000 That's not a real judgment call.

00:20:12.000 But it does become real when they brainwash people to believe it.

00:20:15.000 Yes, that's yes.

00:20:17.000 You have people who blindly believe it and people who don't.

00:20:20.000 And those are the factions.

00:20:21.000 There's no middle.

00:20:22.000 There's no person who's like, you know, I do believe the narrative, but also not really.

00:20:26.000 It's like, do you know what's going on in this country or don't you?

00:20:29.000 If someone said, Joe Biden tried to get a quid pro quo from the president of Ukraine, threatening to withhold US loan guarantees in exchange for the firing of prosecutor, quid pro quo, and people will be like, we had a guy on the show, he goes, that never happened.

00:20:46.000 And I was like, you want me to pull up the video?

00:20:47.000 And I pull up the video and it's Joe Biden going like, so I tell him, you want the billion dollars?

00:20:50.000 You got to fire the prosecutor.

00:20:52.000 Well, SOB guy gets fired.

00:20:54.000 And I'm like, did you not even bother Googling this story?

00:20:57.000 You have people- You're asking, I'm with you, but it's two important questions, I think here.

00:21:02.000 Number one.

00:21:03.000 If that's true, can you actually expect the average American who's struggling to survive

00:21:07.000 as a general rule to spend that much time understanding everything? They become overwhelmed.

00:21:13.000 It's information over... it's just too much information. It's overloaded.

00:21:17.000 I'm not expecting them to do anything.

00:21:18.000 So they're going to listen to whatever their talking head tells them, whether it's Rachel

00:21:21.000 Maddow or Tucker Carlson, whichever side they pick, or if they're smart, Tim Pool,

00:21:26.000 whoever is their talking head of the day, and they're going to listen to them and probably

00:21:32.000 follow that person.

00:21:35.000 So that's an element, but I see it as, on the right, it's the exception, on the left, it's the rule.

00:21:40.000 On the right, you have post-liberals, disaffected liberals, moderates, libertarians, conservatives.

00:21:44.000 Why?

00:21:44.000 Because the right is a group of people who are like, well, I don't think Tucker's right all the time.

00:21:51.000 I'll watch Tucker.

00:21:52.000 I'll see what Brian Stelter and Rachel Maddow are saying.

00:21:54.000 But I want to know what the truth is.

00:21:56.000 You, of course, have people who are like, I just turn on Tucker and I tune everything out.

00:21:59.000 Sure.

00:22:00.000 And it's like, OK, well, that's you're probably better off than if you're watching Rachel Maddow.

00:22:04.000 And then you have people who are like, whatever Anderson Cooper tells me.

00:22:07.000 Sure.

00:22:08.000 But.

00:22:09.000 But I think you find this you find this right now with Elon Musk.

00:22:13.000 You found it with Joe Rogan.

00:22:15.000 I would even say Dave Rubin.

00:22:17.000 Many of these people were much more left than right.

00:22:21.000 But they stepped over a bound and some barrier they stepped over.

00:22:25.000 And the left said, not good enough, how dare you!

00:22:30.000 And they alienated the person.

00:22:32.000 And the person believed, well, I can't be left, so what can I be?

00:22:35.000 And the right goes, here we are.

00:22:37.000 Hey, we love you, Joe.

00:22:38.000 We love you, David.

00:22:39.000 We love you.

00:22:40.000 Come on over.

00:22:41.000 And they were more accepting.

00:22:42.000 It wasn't that the, I don't think it was the person themselves was actually more right-leaning, but they were accepted by the right because they felt shunned by the left.

00:22:50.000 But there's no right.

00:22:51.000 The right doesn't mean anything.

00:22:53.000 Like what's a core right-wing value right now?

00:22:56.000 Freedom of speech, maybe?

00:22:57.000 Are you saying political or are you talking social?

00:23:01.000 When we're talking about what left and right means colloquially in cultural politics, in any kind of politics, what is a shared right-wing value?

00:23:10.000 I'd imagine it's free speech.

00:23:11.000 But hold on.

00:23:13.000 The left historically was in favor of free speech.

00:23:16.000 Joe Rogan is not conservative, but they're calling him right-wing now.

00:23:19.000 And it's not that free speech is a right-wing principle.

00:23:22.000 It's that the left said, okay, we've now decided if you're for free speech, you are no longer one of us.

00:23:27.000 Yes, and that's my point.

00:23:28.000 We're on the same page here.

00:23:30.000 My point is they were kicked out versus they were pulled in.

00:23:34.000 The right didn't pull them in.

00:23:36.000 They were thrown out by the left.

00:23:39.000 Yeah, and I would agree with you on that.

00:23:42.000 So we're in sort of a strange position where what the left has done culturally is they frame the narrative such that this very bizarre new ideology, which a very tiny sliver of the population believes in, is the dominant view.

00:23:57.000 And if you're against that, There's only one other category for you, which is strange, because, I mean, the United States, like, developed Western nations are pretty much the only countries where this ideology or some form of it exists, and even in those countries, it's like maybe 3 or 4% of the population at most who believe it.

00:24:13.000 And yet it's been framed such that there's that view, and then there's everyone else's view, even though almost no one in the world actually believes in this.

00:24:22.000 And so it is a problem.

00:24:23.000 You asked the question, what do conservatives actually believe?

00:24:26.000 I think today, because we have this framing and everyone who's outside of that far fringe on the left is conservative, it doesn't mean anything other than you're not in this tiny group.

00:24:34.000 To me, and I'm conservative, what I've understood that to mean is basically pro-family.

00:24:41.000 You are in favor of tradition in many aspects of culture.

00:24:44.000 You believe marriage is between a man and a woman.

00:24:47.000 I guess it depends on how far back you want to go with respect to what was considered acceptable in our culture, but I think that's at the heart of it.

00:24:55.000 When I hear that there are people who are pro-choice being called conservative, it's not just me as a purist saying, I don't want those people in my movement.

00:25:02.000 It's just me recognizing definitions have meanings.

00:25:06.000 How can you be in favor of homosexual behavior or abortion and be conservative?

00:25:11.000 I don't understand.

00:25:12.000 That doesn't fit.

00:25:13.000 That's not what the word means.

00:25:14.000 We had a progressive on this show, and Seamus mostly stayed in the conversation, and it was pro-abortion versus pro-choice.

00:25:22.000 And the progressive view was that I was far right for being pro-choice.

00:25:26.000 It's the weirdest nonsense.

00:25:29.000 I've seen a lot of my friends in New York City, as they've gotten older, who were Democrats for years, just for years. 0.77

00:25:36.000 Parents were Democrats, they're Democrats, and now they can't find a home because they've been told that, well, all Republicans are evil, so I can't vote for a Republican.

00:25:45.000 I've been told for 20 years that Republicans are evil, so I can't vote for them, right?

00:25:48.000 But I can't vote Democrats, I don't believe in them anymore.

00:25:50.000 So they're checking out.

00:25:52.000 Now, I'm trying to get them to go to the Libertarian Party, obviously.

00:25:54.000 LP.org, by the way.

00:25:56.000 LP.org.

00:25:57.000 If you're in New York State, LPNY.org, by the way.

00:26:00.000 I'm trying to get them to go Libertarian.

00:26:02.000 But it's very hard because they've been taught there's two sides.

00:26:05.000 Exactly.

00:26:05.000 There's only two sides.

00:26:07.000 Do everything we say, or not.

00:26:09.000 Which is why you see so many people are afraid to say the wrong thing.

00:26:13.000 If you say the wrong thing, they throw you out of the tribe.

00:26:16.000 But who wants to be in it?

00:26:19.000 Because in their minds, there's only two tribes.

00:26:20.000 The tribe I've been told is evil for 20 years, and the tribe I'm in now.

00:26:25.000 If I say the wrong thing, I have to go with the evil people that I've been told for 20 years are evil.

00:26:29.000 And it becomes a problem.

00:26:30.000 I think Comcast bought MSNBC in 2013, right when all this weird stuff started happening.

00:26:36.000 And then they started telling everyone, these other people are enemies, focus, stay inside of our grip.

00:26:41.000 And then so they're starting to think those other people are enemies.

00:26:44.000 And then everyone else is looking at these people that are now being engaged in this cult.

00:26:49.000 Have a choice to make.

00:26:50.000 Am I going to be conscientious with these people?

00:26:53.000 Am I going to be considerate and not take it personally?

00:26:55.000 Or they're calling me a villain.

00:26:57.000 Am I going to just strike back?

00:26:59.000 And so you do see people going at it, but a lot of people aren't.

00:27:03.000 and those people are still considered on the outside of this media apparatus.

00:27:06.000 Well, that's why they hate the whole idea of politics, right, I'm out here campaigning, right,

00:27:09.000 and I'm meeting people, and I find people who very often do one of two things.

00:27:13.000 When I talk to them, they literally do not wanna talk to me, like, I can't deal with this, nothing to your point,

00:27:19.000 they're totally checked out, right, you're, let me say, Tim, I'm checked out,

00:27:22.000 I don't wanna even talk to you, I can't handle this.

00:27:24.000 Or the other one, they give me some type of test to see if I fit in one side or the other.

00:27:30.000 They'll ask me a question that's a test.

00:27:32.000 Okay, are you gonna say this or are you gonna say that?

00:27:33.000 They'll say things, what do you think about kids in school learning about drag queens? 0.99

00:27:37.000 They'll ask that question, right?

00:27:39.000 And then if I answer the wrong way, then okay, well, I'm the opposite guy, I'm the bad guy,

00:27:43.000 whatever they want, right, they do that all the time.

00:27:45.000 It's very challenging, because I'm trying to give them an answer, right?

00:27:49.000 I'm trying to show them a way.

00:27:50.000 And those are the people who I begin to turn.

00:27:52.000 The people who are interested. 0.97

00:27:54.000 Interested, but actually feel like the team I was on sucks.

00:28:00.000 The team I'm on now, I'm not happy with.

00:28:02.000 And that's the people who I get to turn.

00:28:04.000 That group of people. 1.00

00:28:06.000 The other side sucks. 0.99

00:28:07.000 The side I'm on now, not so good either. 0.98

00:28:09.000 Let's talk about this Bruin case, man.

00:28:10.000 I'm really excited for this one.

00:28:12.000 We got the story from the Daily News.

00:28:13.000 It'll make you laugh.

00:28:14.000 NYC Mayor Adams alarmed over pending Supreme Court ruling that could ease concealed weapons rules.

00:28:20.000 Quote, it keeps me up at night.

00:28:23.000 Aw, poor baby. 1.00

00:28:24.000 A pending US Supreme Court decision that would allow more concealed weapons to be carried on New York City streets has been keeping Mayor Adams up at night.

00:28:31.000 All of us should be extremely alarmed about what the Supreme Court can do.

00:28:35.000 When he says all of us, is he referring to establishment authoritarians?

00:28:38.000 Yes.

00:28:39.000 Right.

00:28:40.000 Not the people.

00:28:40.000 Correct.

00:28:40.000 That's not what he means.

00:28:41.000 Yes.

00:28:42.000 Yes.

00:28:42.000 Because he's worried about the Wild Wild West, he says, right?

00:28:45.000 Here's the problem.

00:28:46.000 I live in New York City.

00:28:47.000 It is the Wild Wild West now!

00:28:48.000 This future dystopian thing you think of is today.

00:28:53.000 Right?

00:28:54.000 Isn't that hilarious that Democrats always warn you about the possibility of what they've already done?

00:28:58.000 Yes, it's already now!

00:28:59.000 There should be crime everywhere!

00:29:01.000 It's like, yes, no, we know that that's a possibility because it's happening in the places where you're in control.

00:29:06.000 They say, under the state's central law, New Yorkers must show a specific need for why they should be able to carry a concealed firearm before they're permitted to do so.

00:29:12.000 However, in most states, they just reject your reason.

00:29:16.000 They go, well, you need a reason. 0.92

00:29:17.000 That's not a good reason, which is ridiculous.

00:29:19.000 That law was challenged by the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, bravo good sirs and ladies, which claimed it violated 2A under the Constitution.

00:29:28.000 Supreme Court justices have suggested that they agree that the law infringes on gun owner rights and is expected to rule on the case during the current term.

00:29:36.000 The decision would also impact California, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.

00:29:40.000 Oh, you'll love to hear it.

00:29:42.000 Yes.

00:29:42.000 It keeps me up at night.

00:29:44.000 We have some of the most stringent gun permitting laws.

00:29:46.000 I'm extremely concerned about this.

00:29:48.000 My legal team is talking to other cities to determine how we can come together to prepare for this ruling.

00:29:52.000 Here's what I'd love.

00:29:53.000 Alright.

00:29:54.000 In D.C.

00:29:55.000 v. Heller, Supreme Court basically said the right to keep and bear arms extends to all states, not just from the federal government.

00:30:00.000 The idea before was that the federal government could not infringe upon your right to keep and bear arms, but states could.

00:30:05.000 D.C.

00:30:06.000 v. Heller was like, nah, everyone can have guns.

00:30:09.000 And, well, I'm sorry, that wasn't the case.

00:30:11.000 That was the case as it pertained to the federal government in D.C.

00:30:15.000 v. Heller.

00:30:15.000 They were like, the federal government can't stop you from having a handgun.

00:30:19.000 It was McDonald v. Chicago where, two years later, they said, yes, this includes all of the states as well.

00:30:25.000 Because it was the D.C.

00:30:26.000 jurisdiction, now it was all the states.

00:30:28.000 So it was nationwide, you could keep and bear arms.

00:30:31.000 All of a sudden, we see a wave across the country of shall-issue states, meaning you apply for a concealed carry permit, you gotta get.

00:30:37.000 Here's what I'm hoping for.

00:30:39.000 I am hoping for the one-in-a-billion chance ruling that the Supreme Court says, in fact, any requirement of a permit is an infringement upon your right to keep and bear arms.

00:30:50.000 Because, let's be honest, it is.

00:30:52.000 If you have to get permission from the government and they can say no, your rights are being infringed.

00:30:58.000 If it was to not infringe upon your rights, the government has no say whatsoever.

00:31:04.000 I can keep and bear arms.

00:31:05.000 You can't stop me.

00:31:06.000 What about a corporation?

00:31:07.000 I know you are a 2A purist.

00:31:09.000 I know you are.

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:10.000 I'm actually not a 2A purist.

00:31:13.000 I'm actually not a purist.

00:31:15.000 And here is my exception.

00:31:19.000 I think you could have a regulation, it is possible in theory, not in practice because of how it works, but in theory you could have a regulation on firearms that does not infringe.

00:31:30.000 How so?

00:31:30.000 An example might be if you are going to, let's say this happens and a bunch of people decide to buy firearms and we find that smaller statured people don't understand the power of certain firearms and the backlash is hurting them.

00:31:44.000 And the state would say, hey, if you're going to sell a firearm, you have to put a rating system on it that would say big, small, little, whatever.

00:31:52.000 That's a regulation, but it doesn't stop me from buying.

00:31:56.000 I can buy what I want, but if I choose to sell it, I've got to let someone know this is rated 1, 2, or 3 when it comes to recoil.

00:32:04.000 So I think that type of regulation doesn't infringe, but may be good for the population as a whole to understand.

00:32:11.000 So in what way do you see something like that being implemented?

00:32:16.000 I'm saying you said you're a purist.

00:32:18.000 I'm just pushing back on the purist aspect.

00:32:20.000 Well, I'm not saying I disagree with like a rating system.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, I think when it comes to things like commerce, if you were to say you have to make sure that, you know, maybe you give your caliber in both, you know, imperial and metric or something like... I'm making these up, obviously.

00:32:34.000 But if you were to create a regulation like that, that doesn't infringe.

00:32:37.000 It simply lets the consumer know what they're purchasing.

00:32:39.000 I think it does infringe.

00:32:41.000 I know you're a peer, that's why I was teasing you.

00:32:43.000 That's exactly why, yes.

00:32:44.000 So the challenge is, I think the government using circuitous methods to try and restrict things is a common tactic and we shouldn't tolerate it.

00:32:53.000 But again, remember I said, in theory, not in practice.

00:32:55.000 Sure, sure.

00:32:56.000 Because in practice, the government will always do that.

00:32:58.000 You know what they did with the stamp tax for marijuana?

00:33:00.000 Yep.

00:33:00.000 They said, you want to buy marijuana, you got to buy a stamp.

00:33:02.000 Then they stopped issuing stamps.

00:33:03.000 Yes.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, you know, Home Alone played it.

00:33:05.000 So when you've got gun stores and they're like, we want to sell guns, then all of a sudden the government says it's not an infringement upon the individual's right to keep and bear arms.

00:33:14.000 It's a regulation for businesses.

00:33:16.000 What happens when these businesses then go, okay, we'll do the rating system.

00:33:19.000 Who certifies the rating system?

00:33:21.000 They go, DHS.

00:33:22.000 Okay, how do we get that done?

00:33:23.000 Well, DHS is shut down for the next year.

00:33:25.000 Sorry, you can't sell guns anymore.

00:33:27.000 So, it's an infringement.

00:33:28.000 Infringement is defined as an act so as to limit or undermine something.

00:33:33.000 If in any way there is a law passed requiring you to do a thing, they are limiting your ability and if it's the commerce of that is a private citizen's right to keep and bear arms and transact it as such.

00:33:43.000 So let me push back then.

00:33:45.000 It does say well regulated.

00:33:47.000 Now when they said regulated what they meant was To make regular, right?

00:33:53.000 To do things like to say what is regular.

00:33:56.000 But that has nothing to do with the direction of the Second Amendment.

00:34:01.000 The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:34:04.000 Yes, but to make regular would mean to say things like to understand what caliber is, right?

00:34:11.000 To make a contract rule that I know when I'm purchasing ammunition what is a dozen, things like that.

00:34:16.000 But that has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

00:34:19.000 And why does it say that?

00:34:23.000 It would be like me saying, um, libraries being important for someone to read, but people have a right to access books.

00:34:32.000 That doesn't mean the books can be regulated or anything.

00:34:34.000 It's me making a point about...

00:34:39.000 The Second Amendment doesn't say that.

00:34:43.000 Being necessary to the security of a free state.

00:34:45.000 But the Second Amendment does not require anything to be regulated.

00:34:48.000 it said that, the people need to be able to have books.

00:34:51.000 But the Second Amendment does not require anything to be regulated.

00:34:54.000 I didn't say it requires.

00:34:56.000 So what's the point of bringing it up?

00:34:58.000 I'm saying that you could have a rule, you could have a law in theory.

00:35:05.000 Again, I'm purposely saying theory.

00:35:07.000 In theory, you could have a way of making the practice of selling a firearm regular

00:35:13.000 that would not infringe on someone purchasing it.

00:35:15.000 But regular has nothing to do with what is prescribed in the second amendment.

00:35:20.000 It is describing their opinion on why people should have guns, and then it says, separately, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:35:28.000 It also says a well-regulated militia shall not be infringed.

00:35:31.000 I think that they're saying that a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

00:35:40.000 It sounds like they're specifically saying that your right to establishing a well-regulated militia shall not be infringed.

00:35:46.000 It's not saying that.

00:35:47.000 I mean, the rest of it's just descriptive.

00:35:48.000 So the original Second Amendment actually went on to argue that military or militia involvement has no bearing on whether or not you can keep or bear an arm.

00:36:00.000 That was actually included in the original draft.

00:36:02.000 They removed it because they were scared that it would argue conscription isn't allowed, that people could reject conscription.

00:36:08.000 So let me then move to the next important piece, which you have states like California and New York.

00:36:13.000 And again, I'm a New Yorker, so I get this.

00:36:15.000 About every poll you take in New York State, about 60% give or take of New Yorkers actually want more gun control.

00:36:22.000 Too bad.

00:36:22.000 I'm just saying, they want it.

00:36:24.000 So with that in mind, politicians are going to act accordingly, right?

00:36:27.000 They're going to.

00:36:28.000 Regardless of constitution, they're going to act accordingly. 0.87

00:36:31.000 So they're going to try their damnness to stop everything they possibly can.

00:36:35.000 So how do you move forward in a state like California, New York, that is going to go out of its way to somebody and go, no. 0.73

00:36:42.000 Just no.

00:36:43.000 Federal intervention.

00:36:44.000 And we do it already.

00:36:45.000 Like, if you go to New York City right now with a firearm that you own, it is locked and unloaded.

00:36:52.000 It is following every single TSA guideline to the letter.

00:36:57.000 You will go to Rikers Island.

00:36:58.000 That's right.

00:36:59.000 They will take you and put you to Rikers Island.

00:37:01.000 They wait for people to land, knowing that they have guns in the checked baggage.

00:37:04.000 Yep.

00:37:04.000 And they wait as soon as you put a finger on the bag.

00:37:07.000 Yep.

00:37:08.000 They come and arrest you.

00:37:09.000 Correct.

00:37:10.000 That is New York City.

00:37:10.000 That is exactly correct.

00:37:11.000 New Jersey, Maryland, very similar.

00:37:13.000 Yes. 1.00

00:37:14.000 So how do you... Because these cops are scumbags. 1.00

00:37:16.000 So I know what you want, and I get what you want. 1.00

00:37:18.000 I'm actually not against what you're saying.

00:37:21.000 I'm trying to say, but I have a realistic issue here in my state where most of my people in my state think that more regulation is a good idea.

00:37:27.000 I don't care what they think.

00:37:28.000 And you don't have to, you're not a politician.

00:37:31.000 If you're a politician, you've got to care because they're going to vote for you.

00:37:33.000 They're going to put you in charge.

00:37:34.000 And they're the ones who are going to put the DAs in charge.

00:37:37.000 So the DAs are going to decide who they're going to prosecute, who they're not.

00:37:41.000 The DAs in New York City do this job because the people in New York City want them to.

00:37:45.000 That's why they're doing it.

00:37:46.000 They're voting for these DAs to do this.

00:37:48.000 The people want this.

00:37:49.000 So we would need federal intervention into New York to stop the infringement upon people's rights.

00:37:56.000 And I view it as no different than if, let's say, New York decided they were going to segregate schools and the National Guard or Army had to be called in to desegregate.

00:38:07.000 That's probably a good idea, actually, in New York, because they do segregate schools. 0.63

00:38:11.000 My view of things is that the Constitution is the founding document, the supreme law of this land.

00:38:18.000 You got a problem with it?

00:38:19.000 You can amend it.

00:38:21.000 You need popular support to do so, and you're not going to get it.

00:38:23.000 You can try.

00:38:25.000 And I say that realistically.

00:38:26.000 By all means, I encourage everyone to try to petition all of the states, to have a convention of states, to make the changes that they hope will happen.

00:38:35.000 There's a reason why gun access is expanding.

00:38:37.000 It's because most people actually want access to guns.

00:38:41.000 When they say most people want gun control, it's because advocacy groups are lying to you.

00:38:45.000 And I mean that absolutely.

00:38:48.000 They say things like, do you think there should be background checks for gun purchases?

00:38:51.000 And most people say, for sure.

00:38:53.000 Because there are.

00:38:55.000 Then they say, people want universal background checks.

00:38:58.000 Then they say, what we're talking about is private sales.

00:39:01.000 You didn't ask that of the person when you took the poll.

00:39:04.000 You look at liberal gun owners, of which there are many.

00:39:08.000 You look at Democrats, and it's like 50 some odd percent own weapons.

00:39:12.000 You look at states like Vermont, places like where Bernie Sanders comes from, and this shows you the duplicitousness of these politicians, that Bernie Sanders comes from a state that has actually one of the lowest ages for owning a gun, that has some of the highest gun ownership, where he campaigned in 2015 saying, weapons is a urban versus rural issue.

00:39:31.000 Yep.

00:39:32.000 Today he says, these gun control laws don't go far enough! 0.99

00:39:35.000 Because he's just a liar. 0.91

00:39:37.000 It's like you described. 0.98

00:39:38.000 Yes.

00:39:38.000 They just want to get elected.

00:39:39.000 Yes.

00:39:39.000 And they won't just stand up and say this is what is and why it is and if you want to change it we can work to change it but this is the way things are.

00:39:46.000 Just because 60% of people in New York want to strip the rights away from the American people does not mean they get to.

00:39:51.000 Yeah.

00:39:52.000 Sadly, and this is the piece I'll bring up again, and people get mad when I say this, the only party that is even trying to do what you're talking about is the Libertarian Party.

00:39:59.000 That's right.

00:40:00.000 The only one.

00:40:00.000 Republicans are caving.

00:40:02.000 Democrats in this one, I'll give them credit where credit is due. 0.87

00:40:06.000 At least they're open about grabbing the guns.

00:40:08.000 At least they're saying we hate guns.

00:40:09.000 That's one thing they're saying.

00:40:11.000 The Republicans say they love guns and then still support grabbing a gun.

00:40:14.000 It's true, but, you know, among Democrats they go, no one is trying to ban your guns!

00:40:20.000 Oh no, they say take your guns! 0.99

00:40:21.000 That's ridiculous! 0.98

00:40:21.000 Yes, right. 0.98

00:40:22.000 They are trying to ban the guns.

00:40:23.000 They're not trying to take them.

00:40:25.000 What they do is they make you a criminal retroactively, is how Democrats do it. 0.55

00:40:29.000 They did it in my state.

00:40:30.000 ATF did it with the 80% lowers.

00:40:33.000 100%.

00:40:33.000 They're doing it with ghost guns.

00:40:34.000 They're gonna do it with 3D printed guns. 0.99

00:40:35.000 Yep.

00:40:36.000 So I was talking to one of these Uninitiated people who don't know anything about guns, but for some reason want to regulate them.

00:40:43.000 They have no idea what they're talking about.

00:40:46.000 And they posted a meme where it said, no one is trying to ban your guns.

00:40:49.000 And then I said, here's a list of my guns that are banned in Maryland.

00:40:53.000 So, uh, why?

00:40:55.000 The one I love to bring up is the M1A, which is a banned assault weapon in Maryland, but the SCAR-20S is totally fine, even though they're a similar caliber and one's more modern and arguably better.

00:41:05.000 How does that make sense?

00:41:06.000 How does it make sense that you can load up a KSG-25 with 41 mini-slugs, but you can't have a six-shot semi-automatic Benelli?

00:41:13.000 Because the laws make no sense.

00:41:15.000 Correct.

00:41:15.000 It's not about... You know what?

00:41:18.000 You've described it perfectly. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Angry people who don't know what they're talking about, politicians who say, yeah, yeah, yeah, throw them whatever they want, and the system crumbles around us because corrupt politicians offer stupid people non-solutions that just gum up the system. 0.99

00:41:32.000 I feel it. 0.99

00:41:32.000 I'm gonna go one step further. 0.99

00:41:33.000 Here in New York, I should say here, I'm not in New York right now.

00:41:36.000 But in New York, we just had a Democratic gubernatorial debate.

00:41:41.000 And our governor just signed 10 laws.

00:41:44.000 She was very happy.

00:41:45.000 She signed 10 laws to stop gun violence.

00:41:48.000 And one of the guys who was running is a guy from Brooklyn named Jumaane Williams.

00:41:51.000 And he said, yeah, but none of those laws will do anything to stop gun violence.

00:41:55.000 This was a Democrat that said that.

00:41:57.000 That's how bad it's getting.

00:41:58.000 Your point's exactly right.

00:41:59.000 They're just trying to say, I'm doing something.

00:42:03.000 So I'll sign this law.

00:42:04.000 I'll sign that law.

00:42:05.000 I'll sign the other law.

00:42:07.000 I'll put money into this.

00:42:08.000 I'll start a program.

00:42:09.000 I'll do this thing.

00:42:11.000 but they don't fix the problem.

00:42:12.000 The real problem when it comes to guns, if people really care about the problem, what

00:42:17.000 people hate about guns is the fact that there are young people having mass shootings.

00:42:22.000 That's really what most people care about, whether that's gang violence or whether that's

00:42:26.000 Buffalo and places like that.

00:42:28.000 Both of those issues are the same thing.

00:42:31.000 Unhappy and broken young men.

00:42:34.000 What's killing our kids is not the guns or the knives.

00:42:38.000 What's killing our kids are lack of purpose, lack of community, and loneliness.

00:42:43.000 But that's like- That's what's killing, and that's hard to fight.

00:42:46.000 Yeah.

00:42:46.000 That's hard to fix.

00:42:48.000 It's way easier to sign 10 bills and say, I'm doing something.

00:42:51.000 Like, how do you even, how do you fix it?

00:42:53.000 Because I mean, even the communist revolution and the Soviet Union was a bunch of young, broken men. 0.99

00:42:57.000 Yes, it was.

00:42:58.000 And the mob was a bunch of young, broken men.

00:43:00.000 Fascism is usually a bunch of young, broken men.

00:43:02.000 That's who the groups go for.

00:43:03.000 That's the ancient history of humanity is young, broken men. 0.99

00:43:07.000 Absolutely.

00:43:08.000 People are pointing out New York City may want gun control, but New York State wants gun control.

00:43:13.000 That's a myth.

00:43:14.000 All the cities.

00:43:15.000 Syracuse wants gun control. 0.79

00:43:16.000 Buffalo wants gun control.

00:43:17.000 Ithaca wants gun control.

00:43:19.000 Rochester wants gun control.

00:43:21.000 It's urban versus rural.

00:43:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:23.000 So all the cities want it.

00:43:24.000 I'm going to say again, I think that we're talking about militia control.

00:43:27.000 I really believe the Second Amendment implicitly understands you have the right to weapons and armor, but it's in order to your right to have a well-regulated militia.

00:43:36.000 I can start and control a militia with uniforms and training.

00:43:40.000 That's not correct.

00:43:41.000 I want to touch what you talked about.

00:43:43.000 You said, how do you fix this?

00:43:45.000 I brought this up literally four years ago.

00:43:48.000 Four years ago I talked about how I changed the education system to where the kids get out of school at 16 and then make choices.

00:43:55.000 You go from K through 12 to instead pre-K through 10 and at 10th grade You pass a test, there's your master's diploma, start making some choices.

00:44:05.000 Do you go to a two-year prep school?

00:44:06.000 Do you go to a two-year trade school?

00:44:08.000 Do you go to a two-year to get an associate's degree?

00:44:10.000 Do you go get a job?

00:44:11.000 Do you start a business?

00:44:12.000 Go do something and have purpose.

00:44:15.000 Have kids go to every school they want to go and all the government does.

00:44:18.000 In New York State, our Constitution forces us to pay for grades 1 through 12.

00:44:21.000 We have to pay it through our Constitution.

00:44:23.000 So, you give them what I had when I got a Marine Corps, which is the, basically I had a GI Bill.

00:44:28.000 Here's a bunch of money, go to college, you have 10 years to use it, good luck.

00:44:31.000 We give all of our kids at 16, $20,000, 5 years, go.

00:44:37.000 What will happen is a bunch of schools will pop up that all cost $20,000 every 2 years, because that's how the system works.

00:44:42.000 And kids will go to schools they want to go to.

00:44:45.000 Kids will have more purpose.

00:44:46.000 That their bullying goes away, fighting goes away.

00:44:49.000 All of a sudden, kids are doing things and taking action. 0.99

00:44:52.000 The last two years of high school for most kids, last year for sure, is garbage, useless. 0.98

00:44:56.000 Why even have it? 0.97

00:44:57.000 It doesn't help at all.

00:44:58.000 It's a weight, colossal waste of time, which is why some of them don't graduate.

00:45:01.000 And when they go to college, it takes them six years to graduate.

00:45:03.000 He's not ready for it.

00:45:04.000 The first year of college is 13th grade.

00:45:06.000 You begin to fix that.

00:45:08.000 Number one.

00:45:09.000 You start fixing that, it changes everything.

00:45:11.000 Make our kids make decisions at 16 and not just be lost.

00:45:15.000 I don't want a generation of lost men.

00:45:17.000 Add one more thing to that.

00:45:18.000 Fix family court.

00:45:20.000 Family court is a disaster.

00:45:21.000 All it does is crush and break families.

00:45:24.000 It takes fathers out of the home.

00:45:26.000 It destroys everything internally within families.

00:45:28.000 It makes money everything and love nothing.

00:45:31.000 I lost my father when I was 12 years old.

00:45:33.000 I didn't have a father when I was a teenager.

00:45:35.000 I would have taken a broke dad over no dad any day of the week.

00:45:40.000 You have to support the family by fixing family court and then give kids more of a chance.

00:45:44.000 The kids were making all the problems.

00:45:45.000 They're 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.

00:45:48.000 Vast majority of those five was a lost young man.

00:45:51.000 Fix that, you fix the problem.

00:45:53.000 I want to address Second Amendment because there are people asking about it.

00:45:56.000 Ian, I say you were incorrect.

00:45:58.000 The Constitution of the United States of America, 1789.

00:46:01.000 A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:46:07.000 I ask you, Ian, whose right shall not be infringed according to that statement?

00:46:12.000 The people.

00:46:13.000 Who are the people?

00:46:14.000 You and I, and everyone here.

00:46:16.000 So the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:46:18.000 What does that have to do with the descriptive statement?

00:46:20.000 Well, it's one sentence.

00:46:22.000 There's a comma.

00:46:22.000 If it was a period after the word state, does it say the right of the regulated militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed?

00:46:29.000 The subject of this sentence is a well-regulated militia.

00:46:32.000 And at the end, when they're describing, they're describing the subject of the sentence.

00:46:36.000 There's no semicolon in there.

00:46:37.000 There's three commas.

00:46:39.000 Yeah, there's no semicolon.

00:46:40.000 So there's one subject and that is the well-regulated militia.

00:46:43.000 Does it say the right to have a well-regulated militia?

00:46:46.000 No, they put that at the end.

00:46:47.000 They put the word right.

00:46:48.000 That's how they wrote.

00:46:49.000 They wrote like poets.

00:46:51.000 The right of the people is the right of the people is a single It's part of a well-regulated militia.

00:47:00.000 The Constitution is asserting in this that the right of the people to keep and bear arms exists.

00:47:05.000 They do not grant it.

00:47:07.000 It does exist.

00:47:08.000 It shall not be infringed.

00:47:10.000 The right of the people to keep and bear arms is necessary to the security of the free state, which is why you shall not infringe the right of a well-regulated militia to the people.

00:47:20.000 A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state is an explanation as to why the right of the people to keep in bear arms shall not be infringed.

00:47:27.000 And this is the standard modern and every legal assessment of what it means.

00:47:33.000 Well, I mean, it's very poorly written by today's standards.

00:47:37.000 We really need to update the Constitution to make it make sense to people.

00:47:39.000 But the issue is, the existence of a well-regulated militia does not have an impact on the fact that the right of the people to keep and bear arms, that alone, between the commas, is in existence.

00:47:48.000 Yeah, none of these things, these three things, should be infringed.

00:47:50.000 Neither your well-regulated militia, your free state, or your right to keep and bear arms.

00:47:56.000 So then we can say this.

00:47:57.000 At very least, a well-regulated militia, a free state, and the right to keep and bear arms all shall not be infringed.

00:48:03.000 Correct.

00:48:03.000 There you go.

00:48:04.000 At the very least.

00:48:06.000 The actual legal rulings on this so far is that a well-regulated militia being necessary to secure a free state was effectively an explanation.

00:48:14.000 And as I mentioned, I actually read through the draft.

00:48:17.000 I believe there were originally 17.

00:48:19.000 There was actually an amendment for the allocation of congressional districts at capping at 35,000,

00:48:25.000 which would mean that we'd have like 7,000 members of Congress.

00:48:28.000 We'd have crazy Congress, yes.

00:48:29.000 So they ultimately said no to that.

00:48:31.000 That was the original first amendment, I believe.

00:48:33.000 The original second amendment, they were like articles that were proposed,

00:48:37.000 actually wanted to say that you had no requirement to be in a militia to keep in bare arms,

00:48:41.000 further explaining what they meant by this.

00:48:43.000 They were scared that by saying that, people would then argue you could not be conscripted.

00:48:49.000 So that you could say, you can't conscript me, I have a right to not be involved in the militia.

00:48:52.000 So they said, okay, get rid of that.

00:48:54.000 Additionally, if you look at the writings of many of the Founding Fathers, they outright are explaining what these things mean.

00:49:00.000 So what's in the Constitution is often simply supplemented by like, I wonder what they meant when they said that.

00:49:05.000 Well, read it.

00:49:06.000 They wrote books about it.

00:49:06.000 They wrote tons of papers about it.

00:49:08.000 I got to go to one step further, which I brought up earlier, which is you have a huge chunk of America That would listen to everything you said and go, I don't care, Constitution's dumb, or whatever, it's old, or I don't care, or blah blah.

00:49:23.000 And you can say too bad, but those people vote our rights away every year.

00:49:26.000 That's right.

00:49:27.000 So I have to convince these people that you're right.

00:49:30.000 And it's not, I'm not going to convince them that they're right, because by, I can't convince them that the Constitution's correct by going back to the Constitution.

00:49:37.000 I have to convince them that they're correct by other things.

00:49:39.000 And here's some things that I do.

00:49:40.000 I'm one of the weird people, not as good as the guys like Maj Touré and others who do this far better than I do, but I talk about the Second Amendment in cities.

00:49:49.000 For me to go talk about the Second Amendment in rural areas is literally preaching to the choir.

00:49:53.000 They already got it.

00:49:54.000 They're like, yeah, Larry, we got you.

00:49:55.000 Already good.

00:49:55.000 Already done.

00:49:56.000 So I go into cities to talk about it.

00:49:57.000 And I don't talk about the idea of the Constitution.

00:49:59.000 It's about the idea of it being equalizer.

00:50:02.000 Right?

00:50:02.000 I discussed that issue of it being an equalizer.

00:50:04.000 If you look at what happens in most cities, and you lived in Chicago, right?

00:50:07.000 You're from Chicago, right?

00:50:08.000 Oh, yeah.

00:50:09.000 So you know, most of the time, the people who are attacked, non-gang violence, are people who they see as weak.

00:50:16.000 Someone who's older, a mom with children, something like that.

00:50:18.000 They see the person as doesn't have a gun or is weak in some way, shape, or form.

00:50:21.000 Those are the people who get attacked. 0.94

00:50:23.000 But imagine if that mom or that older person, just in one city, someplace, drew down on a thug, pulled out a gun, and put a bullet in him.

00:50:32.000 They all run away and they go, wait a minute, maybe this is not so even.

00:50:34.000 Yeah, it's an equalizer.

00:50:35.000 I say, you want to take the rights of gun owners away?

00:50:38.000 Great.

00:50:38.000 What about the woman who has a boyfriend or a husband and wants to kill her?

00:50:42.000 Well, it's an equalizer.

00:50:43.000 That makes people rethink the Second Amendment.

00:50:46.000 I'll tell you one better.

00:50:46.000 I convinced a couple people.

00:50:49.000 They're posting about red flag laws.

00:50:51.000 It's the big issue.

00:50:51.000 The Republicans are working with Democrats.

00:50:54.000 My response is just, The goal of Stop and Frisk in New York City was to get guns off the street.

00:51:00.000 The police ended up targeting black and brown kids, and a lot of these kids were innocent and didn't do anything.

00:51:05.000 These kids then find themselves getting falsely charged.

00:51:07.000 There's a whole big scandal about it.

00:51:10.000 And you even had one cop who came out and said he was instructed by the leadership to target black kids.

00:51:15.000 Then Michael Bloomberg comes out and says, well, that's who's committing the crime.

00:51:18.000 Just basically saying, well, sure.

00:51:20.000 Yes.

00:51:21.000 What do you think red flags are going to do when you now have these same people in charge saying, this time, go in their home?

00:51:27.000 Yes.

00:51:27.000 And I've had people go, you're right, I didn't think about that.

00:51:30.000 Yes.

00:51:31.000 Yes.

00:51:31.000 Well, I go one step further with this also, which is, they say, but Larry, how are we going to stop it?

00:51:35.000 I say, in New York City, we already have something.

00:51:37.000 It's called, if you see something, say something.

00:51:39.000 There's no red flag law if you see some bad guy going to blow something up.

00:51:43.000 There's no requirement to report.

00:51:45.000 But you know what we do?

00:51:46.000 We report.

00:51:47.000 The only thing that's ever really stopped any bad attack has been a populist that called the cop and said, hey, that guy shouldn't be there.

00:51:55.000 We stopped that Times Square bomber.

00:51:57.000 We've stopped these people with see something, say something.

00:52:00.000 It's a requirement for a red flag law. 1.00

00:52:01.000 It still works.

00:52:02.000 Let me tell you this.

00:52:04.000 Look up psychology today and any one of these studies that show that the left has a higher rate of mental illness.

00:52:10.000 Now you might, it's a fact.

00:52:11.000 Okay.

00:52:12.000 So you might hear many people say that, so I tweeted about this Marina Navratilova or whatever her name is.

00:52:19.000 Navratilova.

00:52:20.000 There you go.

00:52:23.000 She was like, what kind of BS is this?

00:52:25.000 You made this up. 0.96

00:52:27.000 Google search, left mental illness.

00:52:28.000 There's just endless amounts of studies.

00:52:31.000 Now, one argument from the left is that, well, it's because people on the right don't seek out mental treatment, therefore they never get diagnosed.

00:52:38.000 Whatever you want to say, fine.

00:52:39.000 That's fine by me.

00:52:40.000 The issue is... 0.97

00:52:42.000 If you're a leftist and you're part of, say, the Socialist Rifle Association, the SRA or whatever, or Vosch, for instance, who's a socialist and very pro-gun, you probably have a higher rate of mental illness.

00:52:54.000 And let's just argue it's because you're willing to get diagnosed and you want better treatment, right?

00:52:58.000 So what do you think's gonna happen when the fascists rise up and there's red flag laws and they say, that guy's depressed and it's marked down in his files.

00:53:06.000 Judge, take his guns away. 0.97

00:53:07.000 Now who's got the guns?

00:53:09.000 It ain't the left.

00:53:10.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:53:10.000 You were making the point about stop and frisk earlier.

00:53:13.000 The reality is the left 100% would have supported stop and frisk if they believed it would serve their political interests, right?

00:53:19.000 And so we're going to see the exact same thing with red flag laws.

00:53:22.000 Obviously, there's a very good argument to be made, as you have made it, that this is going to disproportionately target black people in inner cities.

00:53:28.000 But guess what?

00:53:29.000 But guess what?

00:53:30.000 They don't care as long as conservatives are also targeted.

00:53:33.000 And if they know that a red flag law is going to allow them to strip you of your right to own a gun, they don't care how many black people are also going to be stripped of their right to own guns. 0.52

00:53:41.000 I don't think so.

00:53:42.000 Because they only see them as political pawns anyway.

00:53:44.000 There's evidence to what he's saying already in New York State.

00:53:47.000 The same fact when it came out.

00:53:49.000 Literally, it's used against people who are black and brown in cities.

00:53:53.000 They add that stuff on and- I agree with it.

00:53:55.000 Yes.

00:53:56.000 In my opinion, going to be targeting conservatives as much.

00:53:59.000 Some people have tried arguing to me saying, Tim, the law enforcement apparatus will be disproportionately used against the right.

00:54:06.000 In some circumstances, perhaps.

00:54:08.000 But I don't see it in this instance, because you're talking about the majority of conservatives that live in rural areas.

00:54:13.000 You think that you're going to see a local sheriff show up to Jim Bob's house, who he might know.

00:54:19.000 He's going to be like, I'll call him on the phone or something.

00:54:21.000 Tell him to come in.

00:54:22.000 I don't know about that.

00:54:23.000 Especially considering, you know, these guys are strapped.

00:54:26.000 In big cities, Bloomberg, people like him, they're gonna kick the door in.

00:54:29.000 Yeah.

00:54:30.000 Do whatever you want.

00:54:31.000 So I'll put it this way.

00:54:33.000 I've thought about the pros and the cons.

00:54:34.000 For me, I believe in freedom.

00:54:35.000 I think the left should have guns.

00:54:36.000 I think the Black Panthers should have guns. 1.00

00:54:38.000 I think the not effing around coalition guys, very pro CRT.

00:54:43.000 Very poor trigger discipline.

00:54:44.000 Very poor trigger discipline.

00:54:46.000 But hey, the guys who accidentally shoot, yeah, okay guys, you know, we can't have that.

00:54:52.000 But I'm just like, you got a right to keep and bear arms.

00:54:54.000 You want to change it?

00:54:55.000 Amend the Constitution.

00:54:56.000 But I think his point, he wasn't disagreeing with you.

00:54:59.000 No, but he was saying they won't care.

00:55:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I do still think it would be disproportionately used against conservatives, for example, in blue areas where there is a conservative neighbor who you know has a gun.

00:55:09.000 Everyone's going to report that guy.

00:55:10.000 Or in a suburb which is mixed.

00:55:12.000 Left-wing people will report the conservative guy because he said something on social media they disagreed with.

00:55:17.000 And what likely, in my opinion, will end up happening is in the wealthier suburbs where these people are gonna, you know, have lawyers or whatever.

00:55:24.000 Maybe that'll happen.

00:55:25.000 And then you're gonna see stop-and-frisk times 10 in inner cities.

00:55:28.000 Yeah.

00:55:29.000 Yeah, I think both will happen.

00:55:31.000 I think, on top of that, As much as I believe in freedom, what's the end result of this?

00:55:36.000 A bunch of right-wing people then say, oh, okay, red flags?

00:55:40.000 They're gonna start going.

00:55:41.000 It could be 4chan, it could be any one of these online forums.

00:55:44.000 They're gonna start going after every single leftist who's trans or posts that they're neurodivergent, and they're gonna say they're posting scary things, and whether you have a gun or not, They're gonna kick your door in and it will be a legalized form of swatting. 0.98

00:55:59.000 Dude, you'll have people in the federal government hacking people's accounts, making it post stuff that's false flag red flags, and then they'll be using that crap. 0.97

00:56:09.000 You just can't do that. 0.96

00:56:10.000 You can't- Rap lyrics.

00:56:11.000 You'll post rap lyrics.

00:56:12.000 You'll post punk rock lyrics stuff's out of context. You can't use that as precedent and what will happen is because

00:56:18.000 red flag laws are non-adversarial The the call comes in the cops go to the judge the judge

00:56:23.000 they say here judge. Here's what happened The judge has take their guns away. Yep, and then you're 0.81

00:56:26.000 gonna get some dude. I'll tell you this It's gonna be in in a city and I don't care about what the

00:56:31.000 race it's gonna be in a poor neighborhood and the cops are gonna come kicking the door in or 0.74

00:56:35.000 Coming to take the person's weapons away and you're gonna have people who are gonna be like what's happening? What's

00:56:39.000 going on?

00:56:40.000 I don't know what you don't believe you Also, I mean, gangs could very easily put someone up to red flagging someone in their neighborhood they want to harm, but who they know has a firearm.

00:56:49.000 Like this stuff could very easily be abused.

00:56:51.000 I think the worst case in error for the left is just to imagine a bunch of fascists weaponizing their mental illness against them because they often say they are, and then the government comes and takes all their weapons away.

00:57:02.000 No more Antifa armed. 0.93

00:57:03.000 No more forks.

00:57:04.000 No more cutlery.

00:57:05.000 Too dangerous.

00:57:06.000 No more pillowcases.

00:57:08.000 Come on, what is this insanity?

00:57:10.000 No, they just want common sense pillowcase control, all right?

00:57:12.000 It's not happening, not this decade.

00:57:15.000 I guess my point is, when we look at so much of what's happened over the past couple years, and I think particularly the 2020 riots, if the left views the agenda of a particular group as being anti-conservative, they don't care what happens to black people.

00:57:30.000 Two billion dollars worth of businesses were destroyed in the summer of 2020.

00:57:35.000 Likely more than that.

00:57:37.000 30 plus people were killed, many of them in black neighborhoods.

00:57:40.000 And guess what?

00:57:41.000 The left defends it.

00:57:42.000 They don't care.

00:57:42.000 The only way that changes, there's only one way that changes, is if you see the black population stop just always voting Democratic.

00:57:52.000 That's how we'll change it.

00:57:53.000 It is, but the Hispanic population a whole lot faster, right? 1.00

00:57:56.000 You're seeing that, that's a very fast change.

00:57:59.000 Now Asians too.

00:58:00.000 Asians too.

00:58:01.000 If you see the swap, if you see that the black populations are going, you know what, maybe I'm not voting Democratic. 1.00

00:58:06.000 Vote Libertarian, vote Libertarian.

00:58:08.000 But anyway, but if they don't stop voting Democratic, if they do that, then the Democrats will have to stop taking that voting bloc for granted, and they'll have to actually care.

00:58:15.000 But you're right, right now they do not care.

00:58:16.000 Because no matter what they do, The black population still votes Democratic, so I don't care if I'm bad with them.

00:58:22.000 They still do it anyway.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:58:24.000 That changes, it'll shift.

00:58:25.000 There was you earlier, you mentioned the NYSAFE Act.

00:58:28.000 Yep. 0.99

00:58:28.000 What a ridiculous gun control law. 0.99

00:58:30.000 So this one, I believe this part of it was actually struck down, but you were allowed to own a 10-round magazine, but if you put more than 7 rounds into it, that was illegal. 0.88

00:58:38.000 Correct.

00:58:39.000 Yeah, so we've got a bunch of studies. I mean, this is a very common story that came out a year

00:58:44.000 ago, a year before that. White liberals are more likely to have a mental health condition. We've 0.99

00:58:49.000 got this from Zach Goldberg. Has a doctor or other health care provider ever told you that you have a

00:58:53.000 mental health condition? You can see that among white liberals, it's substantially higher, double,

00:58:58.000 just about double that of what people who are very conservative report. Conservatives have the least,

00:59:04.000 the lowest level. Now, what I've heard, some people argue, like I mentioned on the liberals,

00:59:08.000 they argue that this is because liberals are more likely to go to doctors.

00:59:16.000 It's less stigmatized among the left.

00:59:18.000 And I'm like, for the sake of the red flag laws, let's just say that's true. 1.00

00:59:22.000 Wow.

00:59:23.000 Could you imagine fascists exploiting the fact that you want healthcare to take away your guns when you want to defend yourself from the fascists?

00:59:30.000 Personally, I don't believe that's true, because that would imply that people who are very conservative, far right, are more likely to go to the doctor than conservatives, which makes no sense.

00:59:38.000 And it also makes no sense that someone who is liberal and someone who is very liberal

00:59:42.000 would have different degrees of a stigmatized view of getting mental health therapy.

00:59:46.000 Well, I think what you're saying, there's some evidence of what you're saying already,

00:59:49.000 which is you find already again, for the safe act, you found people who are literally,

00:59:53.000 you find veterans, veterans, it affects veterans more than anybody else.

00:59:58.000 Veterans are more likely to have a firearm than non-veterans, and they're also more likely to have some form of invisible injury, whether that's PTSD, traumatic brain injury, something like that, than non-veterans.

01:00:08.000 So you find that a lot of veterans in their communities will not go get help because they know, to your point, the second they have it on their record, someone's taking their guns.

01:00:18.000 And it's usually a family member who's angry at them, or sometimes a former family member who's angry at them for an ex, a spouse, a girlfriend, who will now take their gun away.

01:00:28.000 So yes, it does happen.

01:00:29.000 It's already happening in New York State.

01:00:31.000 I was thinking of external circumstances that can make people crazy, like New York City brake dust.

01:00:35.000 There's brake dust in the atmosphere from all these cars.

01:00:37.000 It's so small, particularly small, that it goes through the alveoli in your lungs and right into your bloodstream, which is way worse than smog.

01:00:45.000 Hype causes hypertension, which can lead to stress, which can cause mental disorders, which can cause a doctor visit.

01:00:50.000 So like what?

01:00:51.000 Just because you live near a toxic chemical plant and you're more likely to go neurotic means you're going to be less likely to have a weapon?

01:00:58.000 I don't like that.

01:00:58.000 Did you know that there was a correlation, perhaps spurious, between leaded gasoline and crime rates?

01:01:05.000 And as lead started getting removed from gas, crime rates started to go down?

01:01:09.000 Uh, some, I guess the speculation is, as cars were driving, the lead was being, you know, particularized, or particulates were going into the atmosphere, people were breathing it in, and it was poisoning them.

01:01:19.000 And it was screwing with them, it was hurting their brains.

01:01:22.000 So we got rid of that, and then crime went down.

01:01:25.000 I'm not saying it's a direct causal, you know, effect, cause and effect.

01:01:28.000 It could be a spurious correlation.

01:01:30.000 But the fact is, I think you make a good point.

01:01:33.000 There was also a study on happiness that found that people who are closer to nature typically have higher rates of happiness.

01:01:41.000 So imagine you live in a big concrete block that smells like sour milk and brake pads.

01:01:45.000 You know, we went to New York.

01:01:47.000 I went to New York, when was it, like a month ago?

01:01:50.000 Two months ago? 0.95

01:01:52.000 Man, it stinks.

01:01:53.000 It's crazy being out here in the middle of nowhere and just all the different smells and all the fresh air and the trees.

01:01:58.000 We're surrounded by trees, so it's all just clean, fresh air.

01:02:01.000 And you go to the city and you're like, ooh.

01:02:03.000 It's a unique smell.

01:02:05.000 And I think that actually ties into what we're saying about mental health, right?

01:02:08.000 So left-wing people tend to be more likely to live in cities.

01:02:12.000 What do you think is better for your mental health?

01:02:14.000 Being packed into a small apartment building like sardines and paying $2,000 a month for one bedroom and you're cramped.

01:02:22.000 What city do you live in?

01:02:23.000 Did I say $200?

01:02:23.000 I'm sorry, I meant $2,000.

01:02:25.000 I know, I know, I meant $2,000.

01:02:26.000 No, that's too low.

01:02:28.000 $3,000 on average.

01:02:29.000 I'm sorry, $8,000 for a closet.

01:02:30.000 $8,000 they let you sleep in the corner of the elevator.

01:02:32.000 There we go.

01:02:33.000 Yes.

01:02:34.000 There we go.

01:02:35.000 $8,000, they let you sleep in the corner of the elevator.

01:02:36.000 Exactly.

01:02:37.000 Yes.

01:02:38.000 But none of these things are good for your mental health, right?

01:02:40.000 That's a good point.

01:02:40.000 And it's not just what I think, it's like Andrew Huberman's neuroscientist has done experiments that gazing into the horizon for 15 minutes a day and having that depth perception greatly enhances neurogenesis.

01:02:51.000 And, you know, it's going to allow you to, to allow, to not be stressful, to fix your brain.

01:02:55.000 The touch grass meme, right?

01:02:57.000 Oh, it's funny.

01:02:58.000 The touch grass meme.

01:02:58.000 It's, but it's true.

01:02:59.000 It works.

01:03:00.000 You go, you just go outside for a little while, it resets your brain.

01:03:03.000 I just love this when people, uh, you know, people post the meme like touch grass, like you're too online.

01:03:08.000 Right.

01:03:08.000 And I'm just sitting there like, dude, you are in a concrete cubicle surrounded by concrete cubicles.

01:03:14.000 And I'm looking out my window at a mountain and trees in every direction.

01:03:18.000 And when I look at, when I look out the window, you and I see, I see a groundhog.

01:03:21.000 We named him Winston.

01:03:22.000 And I see a bunch of rabbits.

01:03:23.000 There's one rabbit that sits right in front of the door.

01:03:26.000 He's not scared of us at all.

01:03:27.000 Nice.

01:03:27.000 And I'm like, that's probably not smart of that rabbit.

01:03:30.000 No.

01:03:31.000 Feed that dude. 1.00

01:03:32.000 But here's the thing.

01:03:32.000 I'll tell you this.

01:03:34.000 When every day you go out, there's like a fox running around and we're like, he's trying to go for the chickens.

01:03:38.000 We're shaking our fists.

01:03:38.000 I saw a raccoon last week.

01:03:40.000 We got wild turkeys.

01:03:41.000 It's fun.

01:03:42.000 Yeah.

01:03:42.000 They're hilarious.

01:03:43.000 Yeah.

01:03:43.000 When the turkeys walked over to the chicken coop and the chicken started losing their minds, it was hilarious.

01:03:48.000 And I lived in New York, man.

01:03:50.000 There's no magic there.

01:03:51.000 It is, it is anger, animosity.

01:03:53.000 Nobody knows each other.

01:03:54.000 Nobody likes each other.

01:03:55.000 There's people fighting all the time.

01:03:57.000 Are you in the city, in New York City right now?

01:03:58.000 I am.

01:03:59.000 I live in Queens.

01:04:00.000 Have you been there for a long time?

01:04:01.000 AOC is my congressperson.

01:04:02.000 Good for you!

01:04:03.000 I accept your condolences.

01:04:04.000 Do you get out of the city?

01:04:06.000 For perspective, do you get out of the city frequently?

01:04:08.000 Of course, I campaign.

01:04:10.000 I go upstate New York all the time.

01:04:11.000 Yeah, I live in Western New York half the time.

01:04:14.000 I go all over the place.

01:04:15.000 I'm up all over.

01:04:16.000 Western New York is probably our strongest place.

01:04:18.000 The libertarian movement is strongest in Western New York.

01:04:21.000 In fact, one of the counties in 2018, it got 9% of the vote in a county.

01:04:24.000 And there's a A couple precincts up in North Country where I got like 25% of the vote.

01:04:29.000 So North Country is pretty strong libertarian.

01:04:32.000 Western New York, very strong libertarian.

01:04:34.000 So yeah, we have a libertarian stronghold across the state.

01:04:36.000 Do you advise people to get out of the city from time to time?

01:04:39.000 All the time, yes, absolutely.

01:04:40.000 It's expensive, I know, for your average lower middle class person to get out.

01:04:45.000 It's like 40 bucks to take the train up to Greenwich and back or something?

01:04:48.000 The glory that New York State actually is, and I wish could be more.

01:04:52.000 You know, our state's a beautiful state.

01:04:54.000 There's everything you could want in our state.

01:04:55.000 Everything is from Madison Square Garden, to Niagara Falls, to mountains and skiing, to lakes, to fishing, to Broadway, to whatever is the thing you like, you can get it in New York State.

01:05:06.000 The problem is our government is so oppressive that people can't stay here.

01:05:10.000 It actually breaks up families.

01:05:12.000 It's like they're governing the state as if it was New York City, but then the rest of the state's completely different.

01:05:17.000 Correct. This is my entire issue, right? The point I bring up constantly is a lot of things that people are saying are

01:05:23.000 true, but they're not going to happen in New York State.

01:05:25.000 It's simply not going to happen. So my goal is several fold.

01:05:29.000 One is to simply make it to where we have more localization.

01:05:33.000 That is not a perfect answer.

01:05:35.000 It's just a better answer.

01:05:37.000 Let Brooklyn be Brooklyn. 0.89

01:05:38.000 And let Ithaca be Ithaca.

01:05:40.000 And let Broome County be Broome County.

01:05:42.000 Let North Carolina be North Country. 0.85

01:05:43.000 Let them be their own.

01:05:45.000 Most people who are in New York State, who are not Democrats, who are Republicans or Independents, Libertarians, Conservatives, they want one thing.

01:05:53.000 To be left alone.

01:05:55.000 That's what they really want.

01:05:56.000 Leave me alone.

01:05:57.000 They don't care about Brooklyn.

01:05:58.000 They don't care about Manhattan.

01:06:00.000 Just leave me alone as they want.

01:06:01.000 So my goal is to achieve just that.

01:06:03.000 I do that.

01:06:04.000 That's realistic.

01:06:05.000 It can happen.

01:06:05.000 It can work.

01:06:06.000 But I'll bring up a more important piece of everything we talked about.

01:06:10.000 None of it is going to be assisted, none of it is going to work, none of it is going to be fixed, if we don't have a third answer.

01:06:16.000 Right now, everything becomes left versus right, or us versus them, or whatever you decide. 0.96

01:06:21.000 And the other person, to your point earlier, is evil, so I can do whatever I want to hurt them or kill them. 0.91

01:06:26.000 There's got to be a third entity. 0.95

01:06:27.000 I believe it's the Libertarian Party.

01:06:28.000 I'm clearly biased, and I say that every time I am.

01:06:31.000 But it might be, maybe it's Andrew Yang's forward bar, which is why I made a connection with him.

01:06:34.000 Maybe it's that.

01:06:35.000 I don't care, but I'm I think it's mine, I think it's my party, but it's gotta be a movement, yes, that allows other people to talk to each other without pointing a finger, that allows people to go, you know what?

01:06:48.000 You do you, I do me, we're good.

01:06:51.000 And right now it doesn't exist.

01:06:52.000 So that's, libertarians are on the right, culturally.

01:06:55.000 And... Why do you say that?

01:06:57.000 I mean, it's just, in the culture war, in the context, if you go to a leftist and say you're a libertarian, they will say you're right wing.

01:07:05.000 I think that's often true because many people who are Republicans who call themselves libertarians when they're not.

01:07:11.000 That's true.

01:07:12.000 But they're not libertarians though.

01:07:13.000 Correct.

01:07:15.000 I mean liberals and the establishment left and modern leftists do not believe in libertarianism.

01:07:20.000 And I'm talking about that in the philosophical, not the big L-libertarian party.

01:07:25.000 I'm not sure where you're going.

01:07:27.000 You're telling me that culturally people think we are on the right, or are you saying that libertarians are on the right?

01:07:34.000 In the culture war, the libertarian party is no different than conservatives.

01:07:41.000 Okay, we are, as a party, we are far more left-leaning socially than Republicans are.

01:07:47.000 Sure.

01:07:48.000 Far more.

01:07:48.000 And the culture wars heavily about social issues.

01:07:51.000 Right.

01:07:52.000 So how can you say we're right-leaning when we join the left in most of these things?

01:07:57.000 Like, what things did you vote, join the left in?

01:07:59.000 Cannabis, as an example.

01:08:00.000 Right?

01:08:01.000 Drug war.

01:08:01.000 The right is all about support the drug war.

01:08:04.000 Cannabis is evil.

01:08:06.000 The left is like, cannabis is good.

01:08:08.000 And Libertarians are further than the left in that.

01:08:10.000 Most Democrats are like, let's just regulate and tax cannabis.

01:08:13.000 Libertarians are like, let it all go.

01:08:15.000 I think that's definitely changing the Republican Party, though.

01:08:18.000 We're left, when it comes to gay rights, the gender, sexual minority community, we're far left on that.

01:08:24.000 Further than Democrats.

01:08:25.000 Donald Trump was supporting gay marriage.

01:08:27.000 Yes, but you said conservatives.

01:08:28.000 Donald Trump is sometimes a conservative, sometimes not.

01:08:31.000 Sure, sure.

01:08:31.000 The Republican Party, then.

01:08:33.000 So, the Republican Party is viewed as right-wing.

01:08:36.000 Libertarians are viewed right alongside it.

01:08:38.000 Viewed as!

01:08:39.000 I'm agreeing with that, but in reality, I'm not sure that's true.

01:08:41.000 The point I'm making is, when I go and... So, first of all, when people try to accurately describe me, and I'm not talking about what the media says, they say, like, Libertarian Center, or, like, Libertarian Liberal Center.

01:08:52.000 Stunningly attractive, stuff like that.

01:08:57.000 That's a fair assessment.

01:08:58.000 When I go and talk to progressives and leftists, they say conservative far-right.

01:09:03.000 100%.

01:09:03.000 I agree.

01:09:04.000 We had Vaush on the show, and he called me far-right.

01:09:07.000 And so you mentioned a space where you can bring people together, and it's like, yeah, but look, when we bring on these progressives, they outright tell us they disagree with what you said.

01:09:16.000 They think they should have a say in other people's lives, period.

01:09:19.000 I agree with you.

01:09:20.000 So when you say most people want to be left alone, you're not talking about bringing both sides together.

01:09:24.000 You're talking about trying to appeal to the common person who wants to be left alone.

01:09:28.000 Yes, that's what I'm saying, yes.

01:09:29.000 But you did like three different things in there.

01:09:32.000 The first thing is, if you're saying am I viewed by most as right-wing, that's true.

01:09:37.000 Most people say that.

01:09:38.000 Most of the time, my biggest issue I have when I'm running for office is when the right's angry at me, it comes at me.

01:09:47.000 The right will say you're wrong because this and I love that because I'm a master of judo

01:09:51.000 So I will take them and I will take their attack and put them down

01:09:54.000 I can turn people from the right fast and from the left.

01:09:57.000 The left will simply ignore me They will just ignore me not talk to me dismiss me

01:10:03.000 I'm your drug, which is why I like guys like Vosh because Vosh will at least attack. Yeah, right 1.00

01:10:08.000 Right?

01:10:08.000 And I want people... I like all the debate bros.

01:10:10.000 I like Destiny.

01:10:11.000 I like Vosh.

01:10:11.000 I like Dylan Burns.

01:10:12.000 Because all those guys are left, but they will attack me and I can have a conversation with them.

01:10:16.000 So much of the left will not even talk to me.

01:10:18.000 And I beg, I reach out and beg them to talk to me.

01:10:21.000 And they just won't do it.

01:10:22.000 You're correct.

01:10:22.000 Because they believe that I am right-wing even though I'm not.

01:10:26.000 That's not necessarily... It's not so much about the fact that you are right-wing.

01:10:29.000 It's that they have no argument.

01:10:31.000 The people who have arguments will argue.

01:10:33.000 The people who don't, won't.

01:10:34.000 And typically among the left, they don't have arguments.

01:10:36.000 Well, but that doesn't answer what I was talking about, right?

01:10:39.000 I don't think that we are right-leaning at all.

01:10:41.000 I think we lean right in certain things, but I don't think libertarians actually are right.

01:10:45.000 I think the culture believes we are.

01:10:48.000 But when they talk to us, they go, oh!

01:10:50.000 And why I say this is because when I get people from the left, To talk to me?

01:10:55.000 They often stay.

01:10:56.000 But I'm referring to the cultural scale, not the economic scale.

01:11:03.000 So right and left mean very, very, very, you have to define what left and right means.

01:11:07.000 I'm using it in the context of if you were to walk into a room full of people who listen

01:11:11.000 to podcasts, left and right has a meaning.

01:11:13.000 You are right wing.

01:11:15.000 If you were to talk to someone about social policy and economic policy, you're probably

01:11:18.000 center or something to that effect.

01:11:20.000 But that's not relevant when you're trying to get people into a room when you have big media funding the colloquial definitions of left and right and what that means.

01:11:28.000 So that's what I mean to say.

01:11:30.000 You made the point that you want to create a space where you can bring everyone together and it's like, oh, I love that idea.

01:11:33.000 But like you said, the left will not have those conversations.

01:11:37.000 The only people, we get two kinds of people that want to come on this show that are on the left.

01:11:41.000 And I should say mostly.

01:11:43.000 Grifters.

01:11:44.000 Who are trying to manipulate us and exploit us to then turn around to their fan base, hoot and holler, and then screw us over.

01:11:50.000 Either not come on the show, cancel at the last minute, which we've had many of, or just start tweeting BS, accusing me of things that never happen.

01:11:57.000 So they'll, you know, we'll get them on the show and they'll say, oh Tim did this, and oh now, oh geez, and then try and get press out of it.

01:12:03.000 We then have people who have, like, no following.

01:12:05.000 They have no body of work.

01:12:06.000 They're not very active in politics.

01:12:08.000 They're just small accounts that have maybe a couple thousand followers.

01:12:11.000 Right.

01:12:11.000 And they have no strong arguments.

01:12:13.000 They want to come on the show.

01:12:14.000 And you know what happens when we invite these people on the show?

01:12:16.000 They sit there dumbfounded, confused, having no idea what to say.

01:12:19.000 I've had that same issue, right?

01:12:20.000 As I've tried to reach out to the left more and more, I've brought people on.

01:12:23.000 I obviously have a smaller show, but when I bring people to my smaller show, I sometimes have an issue where my people get mad at me because I have to use kid gloves.

01:12:31.000 Because if I don't use kid gloves, I make the guests look really bad.

01:12:35.000 Good.

01:12:35.000 Do it.

01:12:36.000 And I don't want to make the guests look really bad because I'm trying to be... I want the left to come on my show.

01:12:41.000 And if I beat them up too badly, then nobody comes back anymore.

01:12:44.000 So I have a similar issue where sometimes I bring someone on who is just... They're so accustomed to talking within their own bubble.

01:12:49.000 This is why... This is why you get people like Jordan Klepper, who go down to rallies to find the oldest and most ignorant among the Trump supporters, to make that the focal point. 0.96

01:13:04.000 Because when, I think it was Vish Burra actually, we had him on the show, when he actually talked to Jordan Klepper, Klepper's like, uh-oh.

01:13:11.000 It reminds me of during Occupy Wall Street when, um, I forgot the dude's name.

01:13:15.000 He was, uh, Jesse LaGreca.

01:13:17.000 Shout out to Jesse LaGreca.

01:13:19.000 He was being interviewed by Griff Jenkins of Fox News, and he went on this tirade about how Fox was not going to actually share what their real opinions were, and the video was being recorded by somebody else.

01:13:29.000 Fox never aired the interview, and then the left got a hold of it, published it, and they were like, this!

01:13:34.000 Yes.

01:13:34.000 won't tell you what the Occupy Wall Street people are actually concerned about.

01:13:38.000 The funny thing is, the things we talk about, the Federal Reserve, Freedom, Liberty,

01:13:42.000 was exactly what was being espoused by some of these people at Occupy Wall Street.

01:13:46.000 Although, unfortunately, eventually got taken over by social justice leftists.

01:13:49.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:13:51.000 But it feels very much the same way today, where you take a look at,

01:13:58.000 you know, I'm surprised Bill Maher has Ben Shapiro on.

01:14:00.000 But even when he does, he like falls back even though Ben Shapiro's right.

01:14:04.000 But you take a look at MSNBC or CNN, they don't have on anyone who can actually stand up to the debate.

01:14:09.000 The January 6th committee will not have anybody who can actually make an argument.

01:14:12.000 No, wait, hold on.

01:14:13.000 It's bipartisan.

01:14:14.000 They have Liz Cheney.

01:14:15.000 That's right.

01:14:15.000 Oh, that's true.

01:14:16.000 That makes it all right.

01:14:17.000 I'm sorry.

01:14:17.000 Yes, everything you've just said to him is completely wrong because Liz Cheney is there.

01:14:21.000 So now, yes, accept that.

01:14:22.000 Accept your shame.

01:14:23.000 Yeah, I do believe there's a culture war going on 150 years, probably since the since the opium war in China, the British colonies tried to force opium into the country, the Chinese play the long game. 1.00

01:14:35.000 And now they're using I don't know who it is that's doing it.

01:14:38.000 But somebody is using this media junction of like, Comcast and Verizon and Google, and Google is now Alphabet.

01:14:48.000 I don't know how involved you guys are at Alphabet with this stuff, but like to spread a message which is to crush these people into this cult mindset and everything else is right.

01:14:56.000 It's on the right.

01:14:57.000 If it's libertarian, it's on the right.

01:14:59.000 If it's something else, it's on the right.

01:15:00.000 If you don't know what it is and it's on the right, don't listen to it.

01:15:03.000 There's a part of that too, I agree.

01:15:04.000 There's a part of the idea of censorship is self-censorship.

01:15:08.000 Right?

01:15:08.000 I won't watch this show.

01:15:11.000 I won't look at this thing.

01:15:12.000 I won't read this thing because it's on the right, or whatever the case may be.

01:15:16.000 There is a lot of self-censorship out there.

01:15:17.000 And the stuff that they're missing is the talk about the Federal Reserve, international banking, fiat currency.

01:15:22.000 But I think some of that's changing, right?

01:15:24.000 I do think there's a... It's not as fast as I want it to be, but I do feel like there are enough people who are saying, Something's wrong.

01:15:31.000 Like, I don't get it, but I just know something's wrong.

01:15:33.000 To your point, Tim, they're not educated themselves enough, but they feel like just this isn't right.

01:15:38.000 And they're looking for something else, which is why I think so many of the podcasts are exploding, alternative media is exploding, because they're like, Who's that guy you were talking about?

01:15:47.000 I want to watch that guy.

01:15:48.000 Where, where two years ago, like, I'm not watching, give me some crazy guy.

01:15:52.000 And now they're like, who's that guy?

01:15:53.000 Let me go check his show out.

01:15:54.000 I think we're getting more of that.

01:15:56.000 Oh, yeah, I do think it's happening. 0.93

01:15:57.000 But then after they watch for two years, they go, Oh, he's that crazy guy.

01:16:03.000 Blackrock trending on trending on Twitter.

01:16:04.000 That I mean, that's a breakthrough.

01:16:06.000 Yeah, it's the psychic, the psyche mind.

01:16:08.000 Yeah.

01:16:08.000 Well, you made this point.

01:16:09.000 It sort of touches on something I was saying earlier about this very small fraction deciding that they're the totality of the left, like everything else is right-wing.

01:16:18.000 This is something you can even find with a political compass test.

01:16:21.000 When you take one of these surveys, you can tell who wrote it.

01:16:24.000 You can tell the ideology of the person putting the questions into it.

01:16:28.000 And so, that's very much the case with many of the culture war issues.

01:16:33.000 You can tell who's deciding what we're going to end up talking about and that they're on the left.

01:16:38.000 Almost always, with a few exceptions.

01:16:40.000 Now that we're talking about grooming, etc., you can tell, well, conservatives are actually starting to have their voice heard.

01:16:45.000 But for the most part, everything we've talked about has been what the left wanted us to talk about.

01:16:49.000 You'll take a political compass test and the question will be something like, do you believe women should have the right to choose whether or not to be a mother?

01:16:56.000 Yes.

01:16:56.000 Yeah.

01:16:57.000 Right.

01:16:57.000 And then you're like, okay, I know who wrote that.

01:16:59.000 It'll be like, do you think an employer should be able to beat any of their employees to death with a hammer for no reason?

01:17:05.000 And you're like, no, they're like, you're a communist.

01:17:07.000 You're on our side.

01:17:07.000 Like you're with us.

01:17:09.000 You believe in workers' rights.

01:17:10.000 You said it right there.

01:17:10.000 Yes.

01:17:11.000 I love, um...

01:17:13.000 Have you watched Squid Games?

01:17:14.000 Yeah.

01:17:15.000 The funniest thing to me is that these people desperately want to claim it is a critique of capitalism.

01:17:21.000 Sure.

01:17:21.000 And apparently the guy who wrote it, like the story saying like he was writing a critique of capitalism and Netflix didn't want to buy it and took him like seven years or whatever.

01:17:29.000 And my response was if that guy, it really was writing a critique of capitalism, he's a perfect example of a leftist who has no idea what capitalism is.

01:17:37.000 Also, I just want to say, the idea that any media company wouldn't want to buy a film or television show which was a critique of capitalism, that's like the most boring, market-safe thing you can write.

01:17:47.000 Everyone makes critiques of capitalism.

01:17:48.000 That's not it.

01:17:49.000 The point was that he offered up this show they didn't want, and then when they finally bought it, it was successful.

01:17:53.000 It wasn't that he was like, I want to critique capitalism.

01:17:55.000 Okay, okay, I understand, I understand.

01:17:57.000 Here's the funny thing, Squid Games.

01:17:58.000 Ah, I know it's an old show by now, but I just love this idea.

01:18:00.000 Here's a show where in like one of the first games, everyone has to wear the same clothes, no one is allowed to leave, and everyone starts at the equal point at the same line.

01:18:10.000 You then have to try and make it across this field where you're effectively cutthroat and pushing people and trying to beat everyone else and those who don't make it die.

01:18:19.000 And I'm like, what about that is capitalism?

01:18:21.000 If it was capitalism, everyone would be wearing different clothes, you could leave at any time, and some people would start halfway across the finish line.

01:18:27.000 Or halfway towards the finish line.

01:18:28.000 Communism is where everyone is forced to start at the same point with the same clothes, and you can't leave, and if you try, you get killed.

01:18:33.000 Well, I don't think you realize this, Tim, but any term which is associated with the right just means bad thing.

01:18:38.000 Bad thing.

01:18:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:39.000 So whenever any bad thing happens on television, that was like capitalism, or conservatism, or something.

01:18:44.000 I just thought it was funny where they're like, this is clearly capitalism.

01:18:47.000 And I'm like, if you look at history, it's because they believe in ideological communism.

01:18:52.000 And so they'll just take whatever they can and say it's capitalism because it's bad.

01:18:59.000 And then I'm just like, bro, in the capitalist system, you can choose to just be homeless and just leave.

01:19:06.000 Or not play the game.

01:19:08.000 Right.

01:19:08.000 In Squid Game, if you tried to leave, they killed you.

01:19:10.000 Right.

01:19:11.000 That's communism.

01:19:12.000 When you try to escape a communist country, what happens? 0.95

01:19:14.000 They throw you in the gulag or they kill you.

01:19:16.000 What sounds not communist is how they have to challenge, fight each other in the free-for-all part, because in a communist system they would be working together and it doesn't matter who gets there.

01:19:24.000 That's not true.

01:19:26.000 In theory that's true, but not in practice.

01:19:28.000 That's why I'm saying actual communism.

01:19:29.000 Yes.

01:19:29.000 In capitalism, you can leave. You can, you're like, my neighbor's screwing with me, I can go to the

01:19:33.000 courts and petition. In communism, I had a friend who was in Ukraine, and when I went to her

01:19:38.000 apartment, she explained to me how there are two apartments next to each other, and the neighbors

01:19:43.000 were having a feud. So one person called the Communist Party and said, my neighbor is bad

01:19:49.000 mouthing the party, and the next day their apartment was empty. Send him to the gulag!

01:19:52.000 That's...

01:19:53.000 That was the reality of communism.

01:19:55.000 People were cutthroat.

01:19:56.000 If you wanted to survive, you needed to do whatever it took to get food and survive.

01:20:01.000 I keep thinking about communism and how it creeps in, and it's not a political party, but it's just this idea that all of us are going to control everything together.

01:20:08.000 We're all in this together, you guys.

01:20:09.000 No, it does sound good.

01:20:10.000 There's no doubt the rhetoric of communism is amazing rhetoric.

01:20:13.000 And if you go back to, say, 2016-ish, The left rhetoric was way better than the right rhetoric was.

01:20:21.000 It was all about, we're all going to be together, and we're going to be, it's all going to be, there's going to be rainbows every day, it's going to be amazing, and we're all going to get unicorns.

01:20:29.000 It's going to be great.

01:20:29.000 The rhetoric is awesome.

01:20:31.000 But when you see it in play, it doesn't work.

01:20:33.000 And my example is my state.

01:20:36.000 My state is the example.

01:20:38.000 Literally, in New York State, a Republican has not won a statewide election in 20 years.

01:20:45.000 The state has been run by Democrats for 20 years.

01:20:48.000 We've been putting more and more rules and regulations and laws and all those things, and it has not gotten better by anybody's regulation.

01:20:56.000 We have been listed by Cato multiple years as the least free state in the union.

01:21:01.000 Take that, California, we're number one.

01:21:03.000 So yes, we are number one!

01:21:05.000 And it's not good!

01:21:06.000 In terms of Democrat rule, Illinois would like to have a word with you.

01:21:09.000 Oh, it's been longer than that?

01:21:10.000 I think it's like 80 years or 100 years.

01:21:12.000 Has not won any statewide election?

01:21:16.000 So there's no statewide at all?

01:21:18.000 Illinois has Republicans.

01:21:20.000 I should say Chicago.

01:21:23.000 That's not fair because New York City is probably the same.

01:21:28.000 A New York City Republican is like an Oklahoma Democrat.

01:21:32.000 Bloomberg was our Republican mayor.

01:21:35.000 So yeah, that's not... But Giuliani was Republican, right?

01:21:37.000 He was, yep.

01:21:38.000 But if you look at New York State, State meaning Senator, Attorney General, Lieutenant Governor, Governor... Congress?

01:21:44.000 Congress, yes.

01:21:44.000 So that's federal.

01:21:45.000 Yes, but I'm saying a statewide election, New York State has not had that.

01:21:48.000 Okay, I stand corrected, I stand corrected.

01:21:49.000 Is it because they control the media marketing message in the state?

01:21:52.000 Like, they get to pick where the billboards go, who's on the billboards?

01:21:55.000 No, because outside of the cities in New York, there's basically been no recovery since 2008.

01:21:59.000 There's no recovery.

01:22:00.000 So the only place to find a job is in cities.

01:22:02.000 So people flock to cities.

01:22:03.000 And that's the reason why the country, after 2008, made a very fast shift towards the left.

01:22:09.000 That is changing now, and it's probably one of the better things for COVID to be forward.

01:22:14.000 The COVID lockdowns had so many horrible effects.

01:22:17.000 But one of the effects it had is it made the cities begin to empty.

01:22:20.000 And as people rush to cities, they become more left.

01:22:23.000 We live on top of each other, as you said.

01:22:25.000 We live on top of each other.

01:22:26.000 We don't have the same religion, background.

01:22:28.000 We don't have the same language, culture.

01:22:30.000 We cry for a referee.

01:22:32.000 The referee is almost always government.

01:22:34.000 So we cry for more government.

01:22:35.000 We cry for more referees.

01:22:36.000 People tend to become more left as they live and grow and work in cities.

01:22:40.000 When they go back now, which is happening now, I think you'll find many people as they go back into the rural areas and into the suburban areas, there's an opportunity for there to be a renaissance in the suburban areas and that people become what I would think is more neutral or more having left and right and not being hardcore left or hardcore right.

01:22:56.000 I would hope that would happen.

01:22:57.000 Did you see that indoor farm in Jersey?

01:23:00.000 It might be in Jersey City.

01:23:01.000 Arrow Farms is the company.

01:23:02.000 It's the largest indoor farm in the world, or it was?

01:23:04.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:23:05.000 It's right across, right near the city, and I wonder if indoor farming is something that they could do in New York.

01:23:09.000 Because, I mean, in the winter, you lose the crop, essentially.

01:23:12.000 Well, we have a bunch of empty buildings in New York City, so it's not a bad idea.

01:23:15.000 We have tons of empty buildings in New York City now.

01:23:17.000 I mean, people are not going back at all.

01:23:19.000 New York City is gonna, in my view, will drop below 8 million and never come back past 8 million again.

01:23:25.000 Because there's simply, the glory that was New York City is a 16 million metro person area.

01:23:31.000 In the metro area was 16 million people.

01:23:33.000 So if you wanted talent, if you wanted customers, if you wanted anything, and banking, finance, was in New York City.

01:23:39.000 You would go to New York City to get your stuff.

01:23:41.000 But two things have happened.

01:23:42.000 With remote everything, you don't have to be in New York City now to get the talent you want.

01:23:46.000 And in the back of the day, tech followed finance.

01:23:51.000 Those days are over.

01:23:53.000 Now finance follows tech.

01:23:55.000 So wherever tech goes, finance follows them.

01:23:58.000 New York City no longer has to be that center for finance anymore.

01:24:01.000 Austin can be it.

01:24:02.000 Dallas can be it.

01:24:03.000 San Francisco can be it.

01:24:05.000 I don't think it has.

01:24:06.000 I don't think it has.

01:24:06.000 Get all the West Virginia.

01:24:07.000 What you gotta do is you have to make New York City what it should be, which is a cultural

01:24:11.000 center.

01:24:12.000 That it still has and still will be and the culture is what will save New York City.

01:24:16.000 I don't even know, yeah, I don't know that I would agree with that because that's all

01:24:19.000 been decentralized too with social media.

01:24:21.000 People can make anything from anywhere.

01:24:22.000 Yes, however, when it comes to culture, I mean things like if you want to be a classic

01:24:27.000 pianist, if you want to work on Broadway, if you want to be a ballerina, if you want

01:24:34.000 to be that kind of thing. Still right now New York has that.

01:24:37.000 Now you're right, if they don't take advantage of it, it will be decentralized and they'll lose it.

01:24:41.000 They have to focus on that now to keep it.

01:24:43.000 I somewhat disagree.

01:24:45.000 They do have it, of course.

01:24:46.000 Yes.

01:24:46.000 But the scale matters.

01:24:48.000 So we had, I mean, we had 40,000 concurrence at peak on this show.

01:24:54.000 That's two Madison Square Gardens.

01:24:56.000 Yep.

01:24:57.000 So imagine if we actually were like, New York's the place to be because I want to do a big show to 20,000 people, man.

01:25:03.000 And then we're going to be in Madison Square Garden.

01:25:05.000 It's like, or you can just get a live stream and get twice the audience size.

01:25:09.000 The cultural issue, again, is you want to physically be there.

01:25:13.000 There's a reason why people want to go to Broadway.

01:25:15.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:25:16.000 But my point is, just because you want to work for a print newspaper doesn't mean you're going to have influence beyond someone who works for an archaic medium.

01:25:24.000 What do you mean by that?

01:25:27.000 You personally want to be in New York?

01:25:30.000 That's fantastic.

01:25:31.000 I want to go and watch a Broadway show.

01:25:34.000 I want to go and watch live ballet.

01:25:36.000 And less people do that than consume media online.

01:25:40.000 Absolutely true.

01:25:41.000 Which is my point that you are more likely to develop culture outside of New York than inside of it.

01:25:46.000 It's the internet age.

01:25:47.000 I mean, I left New York for this reason.

01:25:49.000 It was expensive and was not conducive to building any kind of media brand.

01:25:53.000 I left LA for that reason.

01:25:54.000 We went to South Jersey.

01:25:55.000 Couldn't do it in South Jersey.

01:25:57.000 We're in the tri-state of Western Maryland, West Virginia, and we're building a headquarters right now in West Virginia.

01:26:03.000 In the middle of nowhere.

01:26:04.000 And you know what it was?

01:26:06.000 I was thinking, you know the challenges?

01:26:07.000 We gotta get guests.

01:26:09.000 And if we got to the middle of nowhere, how do we get guests?

01:26:11.000 And then I looked at the time from JFK to a Brooklyn studio, and it's two hours, an hour and a half.

01:26:18.000 And then I looked at the time from DCA or IAD, DC airports, or even Baltimore, to where we are now, it's actually less time.

01:26:25.000 Yep, I'm agreeing with you.

01:26:27.000 But the issue is when it comes to cultural issues like that, there is an infrastructure that has to be built.

01:26:33.000 If you want to have an art infrastructure, that infrastructure right now exists in New York City.

01:26:38.000 But what does that mean?

01:26:39.000 It means if you, say for example, you want to watch the ballet.

01:26:43.000 There has to be a customer base that will go.

01:26:46.000 You can, but you want to watch it live and lots of people do.

01:26:49.000 Literally thousands of people do.

01:26:51.000 Millions of people come to New York City because they want to watch stuff live.

01:26:55.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:26:55.000 That's the issue.

01:26:56.000 Now, my point is, if New York City doesn't do a better job of cultivating that, your point is correct.

01:27:02.000 Some other place or other place will take it.

01:27:04.000 No, no, no.

01:27:05.000 I'm saying that that's already done.

01:27:09.000 Look, we got Times Square billboards, and I don't want to say too much, but wow is it bad in New York.

01:27:16.000 Yes.

01:27:17.000 No one cares anymore.

01:27:18.000 Yep.

01:27:19.000 Nobody wants to be there.

01:27:20.000 Shows do not do well.

01:27:21.000 It's over.

01:27:22.000 I know I live there.

01:27:23.000 It's a problem.

01:27:24.000 And one of the billboards in Times Square was off.

01:27:28.000 I said, how is it off?

01:27:30.000 Just, it's off.

01:27:31.000 There's nothing there.

01:27:32.000 No one wanted this space.

01:27:34.000 I won't say too much, but they turned it back on.

01:27:37.000 And now we're thinking about it, because we did it to make a statement, like we're here, but we know it's because the cultural establishment is in retreat, it's in decay, and that's our opportunity to assert ourselves.

01:27:49.000 But now I'm looking at it and I'm like, what's the positive impact?

01:27:52.000 It's negligible.

01:27:54.000 Sure, some people want to go to New York to watch a ballerina.

01:27:57.000 They do!

01:27:57.000 I assure you.

01:27:59.000 If you right now want to be a famous ballerina, you will be wasting your time by going to New York.

01:28:04.000 You're better off making a YouTube channel, learning on your own, hiring a private tutor, and then doing YouTube videos.

01:28:10.000 You go to New York to do it, you'll have a quarter of the audience size, and you will be archaic.

01:28:15.000 You do it on YouTube, you save money, you will get more viewership, and you'll be more relevant, and then they will fly to New York City.

01:28:21.000 Probably the best you could do is be in New York, doing it on the ground, and with a YouTube channel, because people like Seeing a real-life ballerina as well.

01:28:29.000 Doing it at home, and then once you're famous, having them pay to bring you to these places.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, so I think that whether you're looking at New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, any of these giant cities, I see them the way... Just like one giant city.

01:28:43.000 Well, get out of here. 0.84

01:28:47.000 And your pizza's not good either.

01:28:48.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:28:49.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

01:28:52.000 The way I look at these large cities is they're like wealthy families.

01:28:56.000 And what happens to a wealthy family, generally speaking, is within a handful of generations, less than a handful, the wealth is gone.

01:29:03.000 Because the younger generation that inherited the wealth doesn't know as much about building wealth as the person who amassed it in the first place.

01:29:11.000 And so you see a lot of these cities and for a long time, they did have advantage just based on the technological infrastructure that was accessible to this country based on their location, uh, geographically.

01:29:22.000 Subways.

01:29:23.000 But now, as you've mentioned, there are reasons that people don't need to be in these states.

01:29:27.000 So you said capital follows, uh, innovation and technology rather than it being the reverse.

01:29:32.000 Yep.

01:29:32.000 So what do wealthy people do and what have they done historically?

01:29:35.000 Well, they've patronized art, which promoted things that they loved.

01:29:39.000 Correct.

01:29:39.000 And so, because New York was so wealthy, we had the arts being patronized there, and I believe you're just going to see less of that.

01:29:48.000 New York is going to be less of a cultural center because the people earning wealth are going to be in other areas and they'll want to fund it there.

01:29:54.000 Yeah, well, something else happened.

01:29:56.000 The government has much more power now than ever, right?

01:30:00.000 And what you're finding is people are moving to be outside of DC.

01:30:04.000 Because they want to be close to centers of power, right?

01:30:07.000 And every other country that does not have A decentralized, or if you look at every other country, right?

01:30:13.000 You want to capture their capital because their capital is their political capital.

01:30:17.000 It's their cultural capital.

01:30:19.000 It's their financial capital.

01:30:20.000 America's been blessed.

01:30:21.000 We have a different capital.

01:30:22.000 New York has always been our financial capital.

01:30:24.000 You know, LA was our cultural capital when it came to movies and stuff like that.

01:30:27.000 DC was our capital when it came to politics.

01:30:31.000 Now it's all shipping towards the DC area.

01:30:34.000 Right, and parts of Texas too.

01:30:35.000 But because politics is so important in creating monopolies and things like that, you're seeing people wanting to be close to power.

01:30:41.000 And things are changing.

01:30:42.000 In New York and L.A.

01:30:43.000 shrinking, that doesn't bother me.

01:30:44.000 But D.C.

01:30:44.000 growing?

01:30:45.000 Horrifying.

01:30:46.000 Yes, I agree with you.

01:30:47.000 I agree with you completely.

01:30:48.000 I think it's a challenge that we see.

01:30:50.000 But I'll go back again, and I know I'm a broken record, but I don't care, I'll do it.

01:30:54.000 The answer is stop voting left and right.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, you just said that.

01:30:57.000 The answer is stop voting left and right.

01:30:59.000 What does that mean?

01:31:00.000 It means... Like vote Libertarian? Yes! Or yes, I mean look if you lean left maybe you vote for... I don't know.

01:31:06.000 But anyway, vote Libertarian. What I'm saying is vote third party because if you don't vote third party, there is no

01:31:10.000 reason for any Democrat or any Republican to solve a problem.

01:31:15.000 Right now in America, there are Democrats in the party with the bad ideas and

01:31:19.000 Republicans in the party have no ideas.

01:31:20.000 They're not fixing anything and there's no need to fix it.

01:31:24.000 They won't, because we just keep going up to the right, and we go, well, the most important election, I gotta make sure that, you know, Biden doesn't win again.

01:31:31.000 Great, so Trump wins, four years later, what do we get, AOC?

01:31:35.000 And then four years later, what do we get, Ted Cruz?

01:31:37.000 And then four years later, what do we get, Omar?

01:31:40.000 Remember something, please never forget this, for you guys who are all worried about it, gotta make sure this is the right election.

01:31:44.000 Remember something, Bush got us Obama.

01:31:47.000 Obama got us Trump.

01:31:49.000 Trump got us Biden.

01:31:50.000 Nobody's winning here.

01:31:52.000 I don't care whether you lean left or lean right, nobody's winning.

01:31:55.000 Nothing's changing.

01:31:56.000 If you get a powerful third party that can begin to move the other parties and that's doing something, something might get changed.

01:32:02.000 Why would the Libertarian Party not trigger a similar backlash in the opposite direction?

01:32:07.000 What's the opposite direction?

01:32:08.000 I would suppose more government authority.

01:32:10.000 Wouldn't they trigger that?

01:32:11.000 It's already happening!

01:32:14.000 This dystopian thing is already happening!

01:32:16.000 People who voted for Trump liked Trump.

01:32:18.000 They got everything they wanted from him.

01:32:20.000 They got an end to the TPP.

01:32:21.000 They got Biden!

01:32:23.000 They wanted that?

01:32:24.000 They got Biden!

01:32:25.000 No, no, no.

01:32:25.000 People who voted for Biden didn't want Biden.

01:32:28.000 Okay.

01:32:29.000 Voting for Trump.

01:32:29.000 But they're not happy with Biden.

01:32:30.000 Trump didn't people who voted for Trump were happy with Trump and that's why but they're not happy

01:32:35.000 with Biden 13 more 13 million more people voted for Trump in 2020 but it doesn't matter if you

01:32:41.000 get Biden the problem so listen if you're if you're mad about Bush and you're mad about Obama

01:32:46.000 but then you're happy about Trump and then you're mad about Biden you're gonna vote for Trump again

01:32:50.000 because Trump is what you want.

01:32:52.000 Great!

01:32:52.000 So you get Trump for four years.

01:32:54.000 Then you get who next?

01:32:55.000 You get Kamala Harris? 0.81

01:32:57.000 I mean, you're just delaying your pain for four years.

01:33:01.000 I'm saying begin to fix the system.

01:33:03.000 No, no, no, no.

01:33:03.000 I'm saying... Let's say you think Trump or... People voted for Trump because he was what they wanted.

01:33:07.000 People in the left... They weren't voting against.

01:33:09.000 I got you.

01:33:10.000 People who loved Obama think Obama was great.

01:33:13.000 People who love Trump think Trump was wonderful.

01:33:15.000 So if you love Obama or you love Trump, we need to keep waiting for another Obama or Trump to come?

01:33:20.000 What happens when there's no Trump or Obama up top?

01:33:23.000 What happens when the system's so broken there will be no more Trumps?

01:33:25.000 Or there will be no more Obamas? 0.81

01:33:26.000 I don't see you offering anything outside of... If people want to vote for Trump because Trump gave them what they wanted, why wouldn't they vote for him?

01:33:31.000 Because they're going to lose it in four years.

01:33:32.000 That's why.

01:33:33.000 But why?

01:33:33.000 They're going to vote for a libertarian.

01:33:35.000 They're going to lose it in four years.

01:33:36.000 No, they're not.

01:33:37.000 Because when libertarians begin, when any third party begins to make actual impact, things will begin to change.

01:33:43.000 Ross Perot showed us that.

01:33:45.000 Ross Perot, as he tried to do good, I was a Ross Perot supporter back in the 90s.

01:33:50.000 When Ross Perot tried to do good, he did try to do good.

01:33:52.000 I think he thought he was doing the right thing.

01:33:54.000 He wound up closing the door behind all of us.

01:33:58.000 Because once the left and right saw that Ross Perot could actually make any impact, they then created systems to make sure no third parties can ever do anything ever again.

01:34:06.000 And then Trump won through the system, and the first thing he did was he crushed the TPP, which both Republicans and Democrats wanted, which was a shock to a lot of people.

01:34:13.000 Well, and I want to mention too, you're talking about one candidate getting another candidate.

01:34:16.000 I think bringing up Ross Perot is a little ironic.

01:34:18.000 I like him, but there's a good argument to be made that he got us Clinton.

01:34:23.000 Didn't he get like 18?

01:34:23.000 George Bush senior yes, but let's say he did let's nadir got his bush

01:34:27.000 But let's say that that he was able to actually win to think of argument

01:34:32.000 Perot was able to actually make a change where he actually won that would have shaken everything up

01:34:37.000 And I'd rather have that if you I don't know what's happening now. It's not good

01:34:43.000 It's a unit party at least that's how and here's my problem.

01:34:46.000 So to some extent I agree with you So I'm I'm conservative. I think the Republican Party. They're

01:34:52.000 mostly empty suits But then there are Republicans who come along who I really

01:34:55.000 do agree with and think would do good In that case, I can't vote for Libertarian.

01:34:59.000 I used to be Libertarian, but then here's my problem with that, is for people who are not completely ideologically Libertarian, introducing the Libertarian Party is just giving them the lesser of three evils, rather than the lesser of two evils.

01:35:10.000 And it's like, if I'm going to vote for the lesser evil, I'm going to vote for the people who are more likely to win to mitigate the destruction that the other side is trying to bring against me.

01:35:17.000 And here's what I would buy with that, if you want to do that.

01:35:18.000 It's great.

01:35:19.000 But then find the guys that you like or the gals that you like that are running as Libertarian. 1.00

01:35:23.000 The problem is we get dismissed.

01:35:24.000 Right, Shane Hazel is running right now in Georgia.

01:35:26.000 Ricky Harrington Jr.

01:35:27.000 is running right now in Arkansas.

01:35:30.000 Believe it or not, we actually have a presidential candidate, Mike Termat, that's T-E-R-M-A-A-T for those of you online, is actually running for president right now, right?

01:35:36.000 He's already started, he's starting now, but they'll be dismissed.

01:35:40.000 What I'm asking anyone to do is to simply say, you know what, if you're a third party, particularly a libertarian, I'm biased, But look at a third party with the same way you'd look at a left or a right.

01:35:50.000 And if you find the guy or gal you like, vote for them.

01:35:52.000 Because if they begin to do well, they will affect others.

01:35:55.000 But once you start saying, if you're telling me, I like this Republican, please vote for that Republican. 0.96

01:36:00.000 If you're telling me, this Republican sucks, but he's not a Democrat. 0.93

01:36:03.000 That's the wrong reason, in my view, to vote for a Republican. 0.98

01:36:07.000 I completely agree, but what I think is being overlooked is that Donald Trump was not a traditional Republican.

01:36:12.000 He was not part of the Uniparty.

01:36:13.000 He brought in a wave of new voters, people who never voted before, and so he just basically stormed into the Republican Party, forced the neocons to join the Democrats, people like Bill Kristol, people like the Lincoln Project, and people voted for him because he gave them exactly what they wanted.

01:36:28.000 And it was so good for many of them that he went from, I think, 62 million votes in 2016 to 74 in 2020.

01:36:34.000 Still, the people who voted for Biden didn't want Biden, they just hated Trump.

01:36:39.000 Correct.

01:36:39.000 So, I don't see, I understand the point about, it's bad that it's just left and right.

01:36:45.000 No, but here's my point.

01:36:46.000 If someone like Trump was nowhere near a traditional Republican, And he made a bunch of changes and those changes stand.

01:36:53.000 So imagine if he had run as a third party and could actually, if there was a system involved where he could actually run as a third party.

01:37:00.000 That's why he ran as Republican.

01:37:01.000 But he ran as Republican though also as something else.

01:37:04.000 A very popular person who was also wealthy.

01:37:08.000 How are you gonna keep finding that?

01:37:10.000 And do we want that to be the thing that we're always looking for?

01:37:13.000 That's not a good idea.

01:37:14.000 We have to break a system.

01:37:16.000 But that makes no sense.

01:37:17.000 Tell me why.

01:37:19.000 They like Trump for his attitude.

01:37:20.000 He happened to have been wealthy.

01:37:21.000 Ron DeSantis is now rivaling Trump, and he's not like Trump in many ways.

01:37:25.000 He's like Trump in certain policy ways, but he's got military experience, he's younger, and he's nowhere near as wealthy.

01:37:30.000 But he could actually win a presidential election.

01:37:34.000 Lots of people can win a presidential election.

01:37:36.000 The point I'm making is that you've got Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump running, and the people are excited for them and enthusiastic about them.

01:37:43.000 They're getting what they want.

01:37:44.000 Just saying, well, if you vote for it, you're going to get Biden. 0.99

01:37:46.000 It's like, sure, you've got bad, ignorant people in this country who vote against things you like. 0.99

01:37:50.000 You'll never change that. 0.95

01:37:52.000 But if you've got people you do like who are running and you're like, this is fantastic, vote for it.

01:37:57.000 Let me give you a good example, since I know you like what Trump did.

01:38:00.000 All right.

01:38:01.000 Some of it.

01:38:02.000 Trump in the first couple years struggled a bit.

01:38:05.000 Most people would agree with that.

01:38:06.000 He struggled to get on track.

01:38:08.000 The system was against him.

01:38:09.000 I blame Russiagate for that, yeah.

01:38:10.000 Well, the system was against him, right?

01:38:12.000 The system was against him, right?

01:38:13.000 So he couldn't get what he wanted.

01:38:14.000 If you look instead at, say, someone like Obama, also struggled the first year.

01:38:18.000 But guys like Clinton and Bush, who were former governors, didn't struggle as much their first year.

01:38:24.000 They kind of knew how to deal with the system, so both of them were able to get more stuff done in the first year or two than Obama and Trump, because theoretically they were more outsiders than those first two.

01:38:37.000 So wouldn't it be better if you had a system where you could have a third party that could move both sides?

01:38:42.000 To your point earlier, the Democratic Party is supposed to be about civil liberties.

01:38:46.000 They're clearly not.

01:38:47.000 But they're supposed to be.

01:38:49.000 Libertarians are.

01:38:50.000 Why do you say that?

01:38:51.000 You don't think they're about civil liberties?

01:38:52.000 No, absolutely not.

01:38:53.000 That's what I said.

01:38:53.000 They're supposed to be, though.

01:38:54.000 No, they're not supposed to be.

01:38:56.000 Yes, they are.

01:38:56.000 When have they ever been?

01:38:57.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:38:59.000 If you go back to the 60s and 70s, Democrats were the ones about free speech.

01:39:04.000 Well yeah, the left.

01:39:07.000 Absolutely, they're supposed to be about- they're not, but they're supposed to be.

01:39:09.000 When you say supposed to be, it's like a very short-lived and new thing for Democrats relative to the history of this country.

01:39:15.000 I mean, Democrats historically were the opposing civil rights for people.

01:39:19.000 Yes, back in the day, sure.

01:39:21.000 But even today, they're pro-segregation, they're anti-free speech.

01:39:23.000 But if you ask- It's like a small blip in history.

01:39:25.000 But if you ask a Democrat, They always talk about democracy and freedom.

01:39:29.000 So their rhetoric is that.

01:39:32.000 But they're not that.

01:39:33.000 The Republicans are supposed to be about small business, less taxes.

01:39:36.000 They're really not about that either.

01:39:37.000 There's a lot more debt.

01:39:38.000 So they're about more debt than anything else.

01:39:40.000 They're not that either.

01:39:41.000 But if you had a third party to shift them and move them towards where they want to be, it would be a better system.

01:39:48.000 I don't want to wait for whatever... You gotta change the voting system.

01:39:50.000 Yes.

01:39:50.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:39:52.000 We have to go to Super Chats.

01:39:53.000 That was hot.

01:39:54.000 What a button.

01:39:55.000 Absolutely, yes.

01:39:55.000 Change the system.

01:39:56.000 We gotta change the voting system.

01:39:57.000 We are way too late.

01:39:58.000 We have to go to Super Chats.

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01:40:08.000 The uncensored version, which will be a whole lot of fun.

01:40:10.000 We'll continue this discussion.

01:40:12.000 So we've got Ozzy Headshot says, buck buck.

01:40:15.000 Yes, thank you.

01:40:16.000 Buck buck.

01:40:17.000 Chickens.

01:40:18.000 All right.

01:40:19.000 JK says, we should all start calling monkey pox Jane's revenge.

01:40:24.000 Well, okay.

01:40:25.000 Alright.

01:40:27.000 All right.

01:40:28.000 Storm Huffman says, Shamus and crew, I tried to ask you a question about Catholicism, and YouTube refunded my super chat.

01:40:35.000 Ever hear about anything like that?

01:40:37.000 It's either the deep church or the deep state that's oppressing it.

01:40:39.000 They don't want you to, no, I'm kidding.

01:40:40.000 I don't know anything about that.

01:40:42.000 Beavis McLean says, proposal, TimCast does a documentary in the spirit of Matt Walsh's What Is A Woman, wherein a man goes to Planned Parenthood, identifies as a pregnant woman in need of an abortion to see how far Planned Parenthood goes to entertain the claim, except Steven Crowder already did that several years ago.

01:40:55.000 Yes, he did.

01:40:56.000 That's correct.

01:40:57.000 And they entertained it all the way, completely.

01:41:00.000 And he was actually angry because he said that he was pregnant.

01:41:05.000 And if a man takes a pregnancy test and it comes back positive, it typically means you have cancer.

01:41:09.000 That's right.

01:41:09.000 And he was like, they should have told me that, but they didn't.

01:41:12.000 All right.

01:41:15.000 Nunya Business says, this is for Ian's Graphene Revolution.

01:41:18.000 When are you going to crowdfund prototypes?

01:41:20.000 What are you doing, Ian?

01:41:22.000 I'll talk.

01:41:23.000 I just need a little inspiration here, guys.

01:41:25.000 If that's what you want me to do, if that's what you want to do, if you want to create a Graphene Revolution, let's do it.

01:41:31.000 Right on.

01:41:31.000 Alright, Astral says, Tim, do you have any updates on when you'll drop more music?

01:41:35.000 Will of the People has been on repeat every day and I'm absolutely thirsting for more.

01:41:39.000 So the Will of the People album will be coming out mid-August.

01:41:44.000 We've already got, I think we have ten songs that are set to be on it.

01:41:49.000 Just today I was listening to the drums.

01:41:51.000 We've got Pete Parata, formerly of The Offspring, who's doing the drum tracks for us.

01:41:55.000 So we've got, uh, I think we have like 10 songs demoed out, and now they're going into full production, so it's gonna be great.

01:42:02.000 And then I think that, I don't think that includes Will of the People, which will be on it for its official release.

01:42:07.000 We released that for the, uh, just before the election in 2020, and it's just been a short film thing that I made, so if you haven't seen it, check out Will of the People on YouTube, it's a song and short film.

01:42:17.000 And, uh, the actual album release with everything will be probably mid-August, and we'll do a big ad campaign for the Will of the People album by Timcast.

01:42:25.000 So, there you go.

01:42:27.000 It's really good stuff.

01:42:27.000 I posted on Instagram some, uh, demo, like, small clips of songs so you can hear them.

01:42:33.000 And, uh, yeah.

01:42:35.000 Not complete, mind you.

01:42:37.000 All right.

01:42:37.000 Subversive with Justin O'Donnell says, if Democrats really cared about Roe v. Wade, they would have used their majorities in Congress and the Senate and a Democrat presidency to codify it before the decision was released.

01:42:48.000 100% correct.

01:42:49.000 That's my point about them not solving anything.

01:42:51.000 You're 100% correct.

01:42:52.000 That's exactly accurate.

01:42:53.000 They don't solve anything.

01:42:55.000 They want to make sure that they can throw something like that against you.

01:42:57.000 Did they try to codify it?

01:42:58.000 I thought we talked about this.

01:43:01.000 They tried to expand it, but they couldn't get past the filibuster.

01:43:05.000 Uh, who was the, uh, Freedom Caucus guy we had on?

01:43:07.000 The congressman?

01:43:10.000 Randy?

01:43:11.000 Yeah, why can't I remember his name?

01:43:13.000 Do me a guess, sorry.

01:43:14.000 I think it was him, but we were told that, uh, when they were trying to vote down Obamacare, the Republicans actually said, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't vote it down.

01:43:20.000 We need the wedge issue.

01:43:21.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:43:22.000 Exactly my point.

01:43:23.000 So they're just, they're just playing you because they want to, we're fighting against this!

01:43:26.000 Yeah.

01:43:27.000 Yes.

01:43:27.000 Then when Trump actually gets in on culture war issues, the establishment Republicans are like, help us Democrats!

01:43:32.000 And now they're all Democrats.

01:43:33.000 There you go.

01:43:34.000 I love how the Lincoln party was like, we're going to restore the party of Lincoln.

01:43:37.000 And then Trump loses and they're like, no, we're still Democrats.

01:43:40.000 It's like, okay, dude.

01:43:42.000 Oh yeah.

01:43:43.000 Randy Weber.

01:43:44.000 There you go.

01:43:46.000 Gideon A-O-Z says if there is a civil war leading to two separate nations or a peaceful divorce, which side gets to keep the name of the United States of America?

01:43:53.000 Neither.

01:43:55.000 I don't, I don't think either.

01:43:57.000 Well, it wouldn't be the United States by definition, not the United.

01:44:01.000 Yeah.

01:44:02.000 But if, if it, if it did, no, it'll, it'll be, it will be whatever, whatever side does not call itself the rebellion.

01:44:09.000 Right.

01:44:09.000 If, if one side is going to say that the rebellion will never call itself the United States of America, then they won't have it.

01:44:16.000 They're gonna be like, this country is racist, so we're changing the name.

01:44:19.000 Then they'll be the ones that will have it.

01:44:21.000 They're gonna call it, like, the oppressor's colonies of... There we go.

01:44:25.000 Of Europe.

01:44:26.000 No, what's the indigenous name for... And the flags are gonna be them self-flagellating. 0.81

01:44:30.000 I'm sorry!

01:44:31.000 I'm sorry!

01:44:32.000 The national anthem is, I'm sorry.

01:44:35.000 Oh, I am sorry.

01:44:36.000 Beautiful.

01:44:36.000 What was that bill called?

01:44:37.000 Geez.

01:44:37.000 Yeah, did you look it up?

01:44:37.000 Yeah, I'm looking at it now.

01:44:38.000 Connor Brown says Bill C-11 just passed here in Canada. It's the internet

01:44:42.000 censorship bill and drastically limits the media Canadians can consume and

01:44:46.000 which content creators can make money. Rip free speech in Canada. What was that

01:44:49.000 bill called? C-11. Geez. Yeah, did you look it up? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. What happened to Canada?

01:44:56.000 It was always a British colony. 0.75

01:44:59.000 I know Canadians get pissed at me when I say that, but I mean, it's basically part of the British Commonwealth, not a colony.

01:45:03.000 It still is.

01:45:04.000 Yeah.

01:45:04.000 It's part of it.

01:45:05.000 It's like the Queen has her thumb on something over there.

01:45:09.000 Australia and New Zealand too.

01:45:10.000 And Trudeau's just got the right to start taking people's guns and banning free speech.

01:45:15.000 Yeah, but they never had that right forever.

01:45:16.000 What happened to them?

01:45:17.000 You do not have a right to defend yourself with a gun.

01:45:21.000 That is not a right that Canadians have. 1.00

01:45:23.000 I saw a video of him when he was in high school and he is such a smarmy piece of crap, dude. 1.00

01:45:29.000 Wow. 1.00

01:45:30.000 You are right.

01:45:31.000 He was when he was 18.

01:45:31.000 He was 18.

01:45:32.000 His dad was a super famous politician, so now he got to be a...

01:45:36.000 Let's read some more.

01:45:37.000 Jemma says, what's Larry's opinion of the Mises caucus taking over the Libertarian Party,

01:45:43.000 LPNC?

01:45:44.000 The Mises caucus takeover is a symptom.

01:45:47.000 It's a symptom of a party that didn't do enough to make things happen.

01:45:52.000 And when the Mises Caucus decided to start organizing, people came to me and said, the Mises Caucus came to me and said, Larry, will you be on our advisory board?

01:45:59.000 I said, sure, I'm happy to help you out.

01:46:01.000 And then I went to other I went to other caucuses, you guys want my help?

01:46:04.000 They went, no, Mises is bad.

01:46:06.000 And I said, well, if you want to stop Mises, what you could do is counter-organize.

01:46:11.000 If you think they're bad, you could always just counter-organize and grow bigger and badder.

01:46:14.000 And they didn't.

01:46:15.000 And Mises grew and organized and took over and I'm not...

01:46:20.000 Complaining it is what it is.

01:46:21.000 It's I think it's a normal thing I think for the party in the long run in the short run It's bad for me in the short run because the civil war libertarian party has been in has hurt me As a candidate like people have decided to not help walked away from the party So it did hurt me when it came to fundraising and volunteers so in a short run it was hurtful for me but in the long run I think it's great because in the long run Either the Mises Caucus will do well and make the party do well, or others will come in and learn from them and also grow.

01:46:50.000 So I think it's part of growing pains, and I'm unhappy about it.

01:46:54.000 Dave Smith, 2024.

01:46:57.000 I want anybody popular to include him.

01:46:59.000 In my perfect world, it's somebody popular.

01:47:03.000 Because what I want in 2024 is the Libertarian Party to gain electoral votes.

01:47:10.000 Whether that's a chunk of Nebraska, whether that's Utah, part of Maine, I don't care.

01:47:15.000 I want some gold on that map.

01:47:17.000 And to make that happen, we need someone popular.

01:47:20.000 I would take Dave Smith.

01:47:20.000 He's popular, absolutely.

01:47:21.000 I would take anyone.

01:47:23.000 I would take Drew Carey.

01:47:25.000 He's a libertarian.

01:47:26.000 I would take Kurt Russell.

01:47:28.000 I would take Dave Smith.

01:47:29.000 I would take anybody who's popular.

01:47:31.000 I want a popular person to be running for president.

01:47:33.000 It will not be me, by the way.

01:47:35.000 I'm not that popular.

01:47:36.000 If I all of a sudden became popular, though, I would consider it, but I'm not that popular.

01:47:38.000 So anyone who is popular is what I want.

01:47:41.000 I think that's what matters for the party, and that would include Dave Smith for me.

01:47:45.000 All right, Random Eskimo says, The writings of the Founding Fathers make clear that by well-regulated meant well-distributed and well-provisioned.

01:47:52.000 Regulations were very often the records of having the necessary supplies and abilities to restock needs.

01:47:58.000 Yeah, regulation does not mean what it means now.

01:48:00.000 Which is why the British regulars were called that.

01:48:03.000 They were regulated.

01:48:04.000 It doesn't mean the government was controlling them necessarily, although, you know, the British crown was.

01:48:08.000 It meant they were well-equipped, well-armed, and well-trained.

01:48:11.000 Also for that, my understanding is Paul Revere never said the British are coming.

01:48:16.000 That would make no sense because they were subjects of Britain.

01:48:18.000 He said the regulars are coming.

01:48:20.000 Although, I don't know, I read that in like some book you read in bathrooms.

01:48:23.000 You ever see those books?

01:48:24.000 Those are great.

01:48:25.000 Yeah, like they're made for being in bathrooms.

01:48:27.000 Yeah, the regulars are coming is a much more valuable piece of knowledge for the people to know, because they know what kind of enemy to be ready for.

01:48:34.000 Sure.

01:48:34.000 Like, imagine if, like, you know, FBI was showing up and someone ran by, like, the Americans are coming!

01:48:40.000 You'd be like, what?

01:48:40.000 The army's coming!

01:48:41.000 You're like, what do you mean?

01:48:42.000 Is it the tanks are coming, is what you would say.

01:48:44.000 Exactly, yes.

01:48:46.000 Soldiers!

01:48:47.000 Yeah.

01:48:48.000 All right, what do we got?

01:48:49.000 Batman says National Guard is not the militia.

01:48:51.000 Per Constitution, the militia is forbidden from foreign deployment, while National Guard is obviously not.

01:48:56.000 Yeah, the argument is that the militia, the local militias, were formally molded into the National Guard or whatever, but militia back then basically meant a bunch of local dudes who were armed.

01:49:09.000 That's what it meant.

01:49:10.000 And as long as you're well regulated, then the government has no right to break you up?

01:49:15.000 I think that's what that stands for.

01:49:17.000 Well-regulated meant like a well-armed.

01:49:19.000 You're not a mob, basically.

01:49:21.000 No, no, no.

01:49:22.000 You could be a mob.

01:49:24.000 It meant you were well-armed, like you had good working guns.

01:49:26.000 But regulate also means you're trained.

01:49:30.000 No.

01:49:30.000 Does it mean that you're not breaking the law?

01:49:31.000 Regulated was like... No, but if you're going with the argument of regular, like as in the British Army regulated, then to make regular would mean to train.

01:49:41.000 I suppose theoretically, but in the terms of a bunch of farmers who have guns, I don't think the Founding Fathers were like... But those are literally called Irregulars. 0.87

01:49:47.000 I'm talking about the Mafia.

01:49:48.000 Right, right, right.

01:49:48.000 What I'm saying is... Those are literally called Irregulars.

01:49:50.000 A well-regulated militia theoretically could mean like...

01:49:55.000 They weren't sending out the army to train farmers.

01:49:58.000 Farmers, it was just like, we want them to have guns and to know how to use them.

01:50:02.000 But the Minutemen literally would drill.

01:50:05.000 The Minutemen weren't militia.

01:50:07.000 They were Continental Army.

01:50:08.000 Or are you talking about the Minutemen were militia?

01:50:10.000 Yeah, the Minutemen were militia.

01:50:11.000 And they literally drilled.

01:50:12.000 I mean, they were like, similar to the once a week we come out and march around, or we do some shooting with our guns, or, right?

01:50:21.000 And we have some form.

01:50:22.000 Were they under the command of the Continental Army?

01:50:26.000 No, they weren't, but they had a command structure, right?

01:50:28.000 You would know that the mayor or whoever was the person, he'd be the captain of the company or something.

01:50:32.000 But this is still, like, the point I'm saying is that a bunch of farmers who have guns and train with them at their own discretion is very different from trained military.

01:50:40.000 A hundred percent, yes.

01:50:42.000 But there would be some training.

01:50:43.000 To be a militia, there'd be some training.

01:50:44.000 You have to show up once a month or whatever the thing is.

01:50:47.000 March around and learn how to use your weapons.

01:50:48.000 But that's like you and your neighbors being like, hey, on the third Friday, we're all going to go out shooting.

01:50:54.000 You'd be like, all right.

01:50:56.000 Yeah, but it probably would have been something that would be official.

01:50:59.000 Right.

01:50:59.000 Like the mayor would say, Hey, you can use the parade grounds on every Thursday or something like that.

01:51:05.000 But my point is when it was official, you're talking about a town of like a hundred people or something small.

01:51:10.000 So we got to separate that from the context of today.

01:51:12.000 We have a mayor of a town of 300,000 you've never met before calling people to come out.

01:51:17.000 My point is basically it was like you and your neighbors going out and you know, some guy with 50 acres being like, you guys can use my land if you want to go shooting, which still happens today.

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 All right.

01:51:29.000 All right.

01:51:29.000 Let's see.

01:51:30.000 Let's grab some more.

01:51:32.000 A lot of Second Amendment ones, which I think we addressed a lot of.

01:51:35.000 We beat that one down a bit.

01:51:37.000 Yeah.

01:51:38.000 All right.

01:51:40.000 What do we got here?

01:51:42.000 Charles Wan says they don't care.

01:51:43.000 They won't debate.

01:51:44.000 They don't want a conversation.

01:51:45.000 They want a tyrannical government to force their beliefs on you and your children.

01:51:49.000 But who are they?

01:51:51.000 Who are they?

01:51:53.000 I think he's talking about leftists.

01:51:54.000 I want names!

01:51:56.000 I want names.

01:51:57.000 That's good.

01:51:59.000 All right.

01:52:01.000 Dragon's Talon says, District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia.

01:52:11.000 Right.

01:52:12.000 And then McDonald v. Chicago was, this right extends to all states, not just the federal government.

01:52:17.000 And so all of a sudden in Chicago, everybody was buying guns and the city was freaking out and they were angry about it.

01:52:22.000 Now what we need is for the Supreme Court to say, Requiring permission from the government is an infringement upon your right to keep and bear arms.

01:52:30.000 And then permits are gone.

01:52:32.000 No more permits.

01:52:33.000 Everybody just have a gun.

01:52:34.000 Go buy one.

01:52:35.000 And body armor too.

01:52:36.000 Well, New York didn't just ban body armor?

01:52:40.000 Why?

01:52:40.000 Yeah, because again, we'll just do things because we'll take action on things that make no sense whatsoever.

01:52:45.000 And how do they define body armor? 0.99

01:52:47.000 Probably stupidly. 0.99

01:52:49.000 It's my assumption because, you know, yes, I have a phone in my pocket. 1.00

01:52:53.000 That's body armor! 0.78

01:52:54.000 Put him in jail!

01:52:55.000 I'm sure that's what they'll say.

01:52:56.000 You know what they were doing in Thailand is they were taking sheets of x-ray film, layering it, and then putting it in the tactical vests to hold because it provided some protection, particularly from blunt force objects.

01:53:09.000 They argued it could stop some rounds, but probably not rifle rounds.

01:53:12.000 But they swore by it.

01:53:14.000 That body armor?

01:53:14.000 Yeah, no, no.

01:53:15.000 The worst part is in Buffalo, which was our shooting, the only guy who stood up, right, because he was one armed guy there at the actual supermarket.

01:53:24.000 He was a former cop.

01:53:27.000 He turned and fired.

01:53:28.000 The kid he hit didn't go down because the kid had body armor and the kid put him down because he didn't.

01:53:34.000 So now what our answer is to make sure guys like him will never have body armor.

01:53:37.000 I don't know how that makes any sense, but that's what we've done in New York.

01:53:41.000 Tony T says, Ian, if they strip the right to keep and bear arms, the people cannot create a well-regulated militia to fight enemies both foreign and domestic.

01:53:49.000 It would just be a protest at that point.

01:53:50.000 Yeah, but I also, regardless of whether or not they're armed, I think that a militia has a right to form.

01:53:57.000 Yeah.

01:53:59.000 Before police, they had militia.

01:54:01.000 And then I was reading about the history of police because the left likes to push this lie that police are the remnants of slave catchers.

01:54:08.000 And it's like, actually, yeah, sometimes, but typically no.

01:54:11.000 But they also think everything's the remnant of slavery.

01:54:13.000 Right.

01:54:14.000 Yeah.

01:54:14.000 Most police departments were just an expansion of local law enforcement, sheriffs and deputies and stuff.

01:54:20.000 And they were like, hey, we need something like this, but like, you know, in the city.

01:54:22.000 And they're like, okay.

01:54:23.000 And it was, I think it was done in France first.

01:54:26.000 And then, uh, yeah.

01:54:28.000 Before that, in a lot of areas, you just have a militia and they'd catch somebody and they'd bring them to the sheriff or whatever, or the courts would deal with it.

01:54:35.000 Free Golem says red flag laws equals state-sanctioned swatting.

01:54:40.000 Yes.

01:54:40.000 That is correct.

01:54:40.000 Correct.

01:54:41.000 Very true.

01:54:42.000 Cody Bridgers says, the Constitution is not poorly written, Ian is poorly read.

01:54:46.000 Ooh, smackdown. 0.60

01:54:47.000 Ooh.

01:54:48.000 I don't know.

01:54:48.000 I mean, it is a 250-year-old document.

01:54:50.000 We could probably update it.

01:54:52.000 I actually gotta say, I don't know if it's that it's poorly written other than the fact that language changes.

01:54:57.000 Yes.

01:54:57.000 And you have, what is it, the textualists versus, what's the other phrase?

01:55:02.000 Like, the people who read it verbatim by text, the Supreme Court justices, versus those who, like, interpret what they think it's supposed to mean.

01:55:07.000 Postmodernists.

01:55:08.000 No, no, that's the originalists.

01:55:12.000 The textualists are the bad ones.

01:55:13.000 They're like, well, it says well-regulated, that means the government has to control it.

01:55:16.000 And then the originalists are like, no, that's not what it means.

01:55:18.000 That's not what regular meant back then.

01:55:20.000 Regulation has a different meaning now than it had then.

01:55:23.000 Then it literally meant to make regular versus now it means to control.

01:55:29.000 Justin Clarke says, in modern colloquial English, 2A is, quote, because a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

01:55:40.000 And that's basically where we're at right now with the Supreme Court and how they see it.

01:55:44.000 And I'm hoping, I just want them to go nuts.

01:55:46.000 I want to see, like, I don't know, Alito or Thomas, just with their glowing red eyes, just drop the opinion and it says, like, everyone gets guns. 0.88

01:55:54.000 Period.

01:55:55.000 Yeah!

01:55:58.000 I'm half kidding, by the way.

01:56:00.000 I think if people want to change the rules, you have to get the amendments in.

01:56:04.000 So when people are like, we should ban this, I'm like, by all means, get the votes to amend the Constitution.

01:56:10.000 The purpose of the Constitution and the reason it exists as it is, and if you want to amend it, it's very difficult, is because democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for lunch, but a republic is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

01:56:20.000 So you do not get to take away my right to keep and bear arms because you don't like it even if you're in the majority.

01:56:24.000 Sorry.

01:56:26.000 Too bad.

01:56:28.000 Alright.

01:56:29.000 Daniel Brent says, having a BLM flag, a confederate flag, what if I flew a literal red flag?

01:56:34.000 Could that reporter that felt intimidated by American flags call them in?

01:56:38.000 This will hopefully get shot down in the courts.

01:56:41.000 Which one is that a reference to?

01:56:42.000 I don't know.

01:56:43.000 The communist flag?

01:56:45.000 Is that what that was?

01:56:46.000 The red flag?

01:56:46.000 I don't know.

01:56:49.000 Dim Sum Nim Sum says there is a rating system.

01:56:52.000 Caliber and grain weight.

01:56:53.000 2.

01:56:54.000 F. Bill Maher.

01:56:55.000 He wanted recession to get rid of Trump.

01:56:57.000 He got what he asked for.

01:56:58.000 He doesn't get to complain now.

01:56:59.000 Oof.

01:57:00.000 That's a valid point.

01:57:02.000 I like that he calls out the wokeness, the absurdity. 1.00

01:57:05.000 I don't like that he's elitist, he's snooty, and he's not well-read at all.

01:57:09.000 I'm just trying to say when someone like him, who is a person who many people look at and see, when he does something right, let's not attack him.

01:57:19.000 Let's reward that good behavior.

01:57:21.000 I agree.

01:57:21.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:57:22.000 And I think that is one of the strengths that the right for all of its present weaknesses still has, which is that when somebody says something good, we go, Oh, that was good.

01:57:30.000 Instead of going, they did something good.

01:57:31.000 Let's find something they said 10 years ago to cancel them with.

01:57:33.000 Right.

01:57:33.000 That said, we don't want to welcome them into the movement and say this guy's a conservative when he's been literally against us his entire life.

01:57:41.000 But yes, when someone does something good, acknowledge it was good.

01:57:43.000 Totally agree.

01:57:43.000 Yes.

01:57:44.000 All right.

01:57:45.000 Twitchy Spaz says, Tim, you should invite Philip DeFranco on the show.

01:57:48.000 He used to be center-right but has fallen into leftist ideology.

01:57:52.000 He's about having a conversation, but he has nothing but leftist conversation.

01:57:55.000 Uh, Phil would be absolutely welcome on this show.

01:57:58.000 I don't know what he's up to.

01:57:59.000 I know that he got, the last time I heard of him, he got Covington wrong.

01:58:02.000 He came out against the Covington kids and like, egg on his face.

01:58:05.000 Yeah, I don't really pay attention to what, you know, what he's been doing other than that.

01:58:09.000 I just mean like, that's the one thing where people were like very critical of him.

01:58:12.000 Did he apologize for that?

01:58:13.000 I don't know.

01:58:14.000 I'd assume he did.

01:58:15.000 I don't think he's a bad dude.

01:58:16.000 But I remember he, uh, didn't he interview Gary Johnson?

01:58:19.000 Or he did something with the Libertarian Party back in, like, 2012 on YouTube.

01:58:21.000 Oh, interesting.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, YouTube.

01:58:23.000 I don't remember that.

01:58:24.000 He's always been really politically engaged since, like, 06.

01:58:27.000 I've known him way, way, way back when he was just, uh, Sexy Phil.

01:58:30.000 S-X-E Phil.

01:58:31.000 Straight-edge Phil.

01:58:33.000 Yeah, all in black and white.

01:58:34.000 Oh, that's what that was?

01:58:35.000 S-X-E means straight edge.

01:58:36.000 Sexy Phil.

01:58:38.000 You ever hear his old theme song intro?

01:58:40.000 Check it out.

01:58:40.000 Look for it on YouTube.

01:58:41.000 He's not sexy.

01:58:43.000 Sexy Phil.

01:58:44.000 He's S-X-E. 0.99

01:58:46.000 A. Murray says right wing is individualism.

01:58:49.000 The left is collectivism.

01:58:50.000 Libertarians are default right.

01:58:55.000 That's one of a million ways to look at it.

01:58:57.000 I think that's the modern definition.

01:58:59.000 I think that's the modern definition.

01:59:00.000 I would say conservative is family-based.

01:59:03.000 Retarianism is more individualism, and then leftism is more collectivism. 0.99

01:59:09.000 I think that's a more robust way of defining it, but you're right.

01:59:11.000 That's a better way of saying it.

01:59:13.000 But in the present cultural context, that is true.

01:59:16.000 I mean, that is how it is viewed today.

01:59:18.000 A free-thinking dog says, conservatism equals preservation of original intent, and that is individual liberty and self-governance.

01:59:25.000 Selfish individuals have ruined the great experiment.

01:59:28.000 Or the great experiment.

01:59:30.000 This is a part of it.

01:59:30.000 It's ungovernable right now because over 700,000 people are represented by one.

01:59:35.000 Yes.

01:59:36.000 That's incapable.

01:59:37.000 It's nonsense. 0.85

01:59:38.000 Yep.

01:59:39.000 And then you look at, so you had Flores, I think, was it Flores?

01:59:42.000 Myra Flores?

01:59:43.000 Yeah.

01:59:43.000 She won in that special election in Texas.

01:59:45.000 Oh, right, Texas, yeah.

01:59:46.000 And everyone's like, Red Wave!

01:59:48.000 They're like, this proves it!

01:59:49.000 She's like, it's a landslide, like twice as many votes, and I'm like, bro, 28,000 people voted.

01:59:54.000 Like, I think 28,000 people voted for her and like 14 for the other guy, in a district of 700,000.

01:59:58.000 A special election is not indicative of what is going to happen when you get 200,000 people voting.

02:00:04.000 However, I do think there is some data to extrapolate.

02:00:08.000 The people who pay attention voted.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:00:11.000 The people who pay attention are going to come out and vote, but if the people who pay attention are only 14,000 people, I don't think they'll move the needle all that much come the general election.

02:00:19.000 Well, this goes back to what you were talking about, right?

02:00:20.000 What most of them want to do is they want to keep a culture war issue that's not solved to get the people who aren't paying attention to vote blindly for them.

02:00:32.000 Right.

02:00:32.000 So if I am trying to get people blind left or blind right, I pick a cultural war issue and go, you got to stop this thing.

02:00:39.000 So come on out and vote for me because of this thing.

02:00:42.000 That's so dangerous.

02:00:43.000 It's like playing with fire.

02:00:44.000 Yes.

02:00:44.000 And the sparks fly and they can catch stuff.

02:00:46.000 This is This is why it's ruining us.

02:00:47.000 That's exactly right.

02:00:48.000 You're correct.

02:00:49.000 Yes.

02:00:50.000 So I yell at, I say, look, if you want to make sure that a woman will have a right to an abortion, you have to come out and vote, right? 0.98

02:00:56.000 You say that.

02:00:57.000 Oh my God.

02:00:57.000 And then people who feel that way, who aren't paying attention go, oh yes, I, I, I like women.

02:01:03.000 I'm not anti-woman.

02:01:04.000 They go that and they run out and they vote and they vote for the other guy.

02:01:06.000 Or what works even better is you just put Trump on the ballot.

02:01:10.000 Nothing motivates the left to come out more than hatred of Trump.

02:01:14.000 You put Trump on the ballot and the left comes out in boats.

02:01:16.000 That's why I think it was Robert Barnes who was saying this.

02:01:19.000 They're not going to indict Trump.

02:01:20.000 They're not going to do a criminal referral because if Trump gets indicted then you get Ron DeSantis and he wins on a landslide.

02:01:25.000 Let's go.

02:01:26.000 I agree.

02:01:27.000 I agree.

02:01:28.000 I've been thinking about it, and my concern is I don't think Ron DeSantis is going to drain the swamp.

02:01:33.000 I think he's going to try and just simmer things down, but do right.

02:01:37.000 I think he'll want to do the right thing, but he's going to try to avoid... I think he's going to make similar mistakes that Trump made.

02:01:43.000 If Trump got in now, he would just be a ball in a china shop.

02:01:47.000 He'd be firing everybody left and right.

02:01:48.000 He'd be gutting systems.

02:01:49.000 He'd be just I don't know, man.

02:01:51.000 It's like, he didn't do it last time, but this time's gonna be different.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, I just don't see it.

02:01:56.000 He didn't do it last time, and they destroyed him, and now he's angry.

02:01:58.000 That's the point.

02:01:59.000 Yeah, but anger doesn't get you there.

02:02:00.000 It's not anger that gets good personnel decisions made.

02:02:03.000 No, I'm not talking about good personal decisions.

02:02:05.000 I'm talking about him just firing people who made him angry.

02:02:07.000 But who's he gonna replace it with?

02:02:09.000 I don't care. 1.00

02:02:10.000 Out of anger, just some idiot? 1.00

02:02:11.000 I don't care. 1.00

02:02:11.000 The executive branch has expanded its authority to an absurd degree relentlessly. 1.00

02:02:15.000 That's absolutely true.

02:02:16.000 I don't care.

02:02:17.000 Oh my god.

02:02:17.000 I don't know how much power one guy has to disrupt that, unfortunately.

02:02:20.000 You've got an administrative state that has no accountability, and if Trump just went and fired him, I'd be happy.

02:02:26.000 Ron DeSantis probably won't.

02:02:28.000 But, I like DeSantis.

02:02:29.000 He's more professional, he's got military experience, he can probably get a lot done.

02:02:33.000 I'm just wondering if, then four years later, the administrative state just carries on the way it always does.

02:02:39.000 This is the first I've heard of him.

02:02:40.000 DeSantis on foreign policy, I'm not convinced.

02:02:42.000 What's up with his military experiences?

02:02:44.000 I saw he was in the Navy, and he served at Guantanamo.

02:02:48.000 I don't know much about it.

02:02:48.000 I just saw an article about it.

02:02:52.000 And yeah, I've heard that he did something with the Israeli foreign policy about, what was this, where you don't insult Israel?

02:02:59.000 Is it BSD?

02:03:01.000 Let's read a couple more so we get to the members only.

02:03:04.000 We've got Dorktani who says, The attempt to alter language to undermine legal and cultural norms is a constant, consistent tactic that can be seen in most, if not all, identitarian cover labels.

02:03:15.000 Feminism, BLM, etc. 0.99

02:03:17.000 Until they move on to an untainted label.

02:03:20.000 Yeah, and it's like, I think it's in communist countries, they do the same thing.

02:03:24.000 Yeah, you control the language.

02:03:26.000 The movement I was mentioning is Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions, BDS, I don't know what... It means you don't want to do any business at all, the government will not do any business at all with Israel.

02:03:38.000 Let's, uh, we have this one more, uh, one more super chat.

02:03:41.000 John Curry says, Heller and McDonald protect body armor.

02:03:44.000 Read it.

02:03:45.000 Very interesting.

02:03:46.000 New York's in for some, uh, some lawsuits.

02:03:48.000 So we will see.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 21, 2022

Timcast IRL - Leftist Group Jane's Revenge Calls For Terror Campaign Over Roe v. Wade w-Larry Sharpe

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