Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - MATT WALSH HACKED?! Bud Light BACKLASH Goes NUCLEAR As Left Loses It w-Joel Pollak

00:00:00.000 So as we're getting ready to do the show, we're doing our research, of course, and there's

00:00:21.000 two big stories that we're trying to figure out which one makes the most sense to start

00:00:26.000 It's called the lead story.

00:00:28.000 And it's meant to rope in the viewers so we can have this bigger conversation.

00:00:33.000 And the first is that there's a poll that came out showing most Americans support the boycott against Anheuser-Busch.

00:00:40.000 That is to say, they're not just upset over what Bud Light did, They're actually supporting taking political action against this company.

00:00:49.000 That's most people.

00:00:50.000 If most people are for the boycott, you have to imagine even more people are actually upset.

00:00:55.000 I'd be willing to bet there's a large group of people who are like, yeah, I was really dumb what they did, but I don't care about a boycott, right?

00:00:59.000 The next story is about Ralph Yarle. 0.88

00:01:01.000 It's a teenager who reportedly went to the wrong house and then was shot for it.

00:01:06.000 The media is now drumming this up into this big Black Lives Matter episode where they

00:01:09.000 said that he went to the house, rang the doorbell, and this racist old man just shot him.

00:01:15.000 But in reality, there's a bunch of lies that have come out, and we're going to break those

00:01:20.000 One, the Washington Post had to issue a correction because they claimed the teenager was dead, and he's not.

00:01:23.000 He's actually recovering.

00:01:25.000 But then something else happened.

00:01:26.000 As we're getting ready to do the show, Matt Walsh got hacked.

00:01:29.000 Presumably, unless he's just decided to go off and start insulting, I don't know, Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan, which I really doubt.

00:01:37.000 But the reason I decided we should start off with this Matt Walsh getting hacked is, for one, it just happened.

00:01:42.000 It's breaking right now.

00:01:43.000 It's the presumption that he was hacked.

00:01:45.000 We don't know for sure.

00:01:46.000 I reached out to the Daily Wire crew and said, hey, yo, check this out.

00:01:48.000 You might want to get on top of this.

00:01:49.000 But it leads directly into the Anheuser-Busch boycott story.

00:01:53.000 The backlash against those who are standing up against gender ideology is pronounced.

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00:03:16.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Joel Pollack.

00:03:22.000 Who are you?

00:03:22.000 Good evening.

00:03:23.000 Senior editor-at-large at Breitbart News and a writer and a lover of good times.

00:03:31.000 Right on.

00:03:31.000 We like Breitbart.

00:03:32.000 We were talking before the show about the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street.

00:03:35.000 I think that'll come up for sure.

00:03:36.000 It's been, man, twelve, eleven and a half years since Occupy and it's interesting to see the evolution of where we are in the culture war and just how Crazy it's gotten, I guess.

00:03:47.000 But thanks for coming, man.

00:03:48.000 Should be interesting.

00:03:49.000 Talk about all that.

00:03:50.000 It's gonna be great.

00:03:50.000 And more.

00:03:51.000 It's been an amazing day.

00:03:52.000 And...

00:03:55.000 The Harper's Ferry area is incredible and I spent the day in Harper's Ferry which I hadn't visited before and the layers of history there are just incredible.

00:04:05.000 The Revolutionary War history, George Washington set it up as the second armory for the United States and then of course we learned in school about the raid on Harper's Ferry but I actually learned from my fifth grade daughter this year that Lewis and Clark started their expedition from Harper's Ferry and you've got Story College over there, which is, I believe, the first black college in the United States.

00:04:29.000 Wow.

00:04:30.000 Story College.

00:04:31.000 And the Catholic church there that dominates the skyline is still in operation.

00:04:39.000 It was built largely for the Irish Catholic rail workers who worked on the railroad.

00:04:43.000 So all these different intersecting layers of American history in one place and a fantastically beautiful location right there at the confluence of the rivers.

00:04:50.000 It's the confluence of the rivers, that's why.

00:04:50.000 But you know why?

00:04:52.000 Did you see that?

00:04:53.000 It's a strategic location for a variety of reasons.

00:04:55.000 The billboard that's carved into the mountain?

00:04:57.000 Before they had billboards, they actually carved a giant ad in the mountain.

00:05:01.000 It's cool.

00:05:03.000 But yeah, and the John Brown raid headquarters just down the street.

00:05:07.000 You can actually drive down there and then look at all the signs, walk up to the building and everything.

00:05:11.000 So what's interesting, because we're going to talk about Occupy Wall Street later, is that when Occupy hit, it was a phenomenon.

00:05:11.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:05:18.000 It attracted a lot of media attention, a lot of debate, but that...

00:05:22.000 root of radical protest, and in John Brown's case, actual military action, but that root of radicalism is actually pretty deep in American history.

00:05:32.000 It's not necessarily new or imported.

00:05:34.000 The raid on Harper's Ferry was very much a homegrown American thing.

00:05:38.000 Let's save and get into that later on in the show.

00:05:41.000 Yeah, thanks for joining us.

00:05:43.000 We got Phil Labonte hanging out.

00:05:44.000 How you doing?

00:05:44.000 Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:05:50.000 Happy to be back, everybody.

00:05:50.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:05:52.000 What a week last week, but let's stick to tonight.

00:05:54.000 I want to talk more about this Harper's Ferry stuff, Matt.

00:05:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:57.000 Then we got Serge pressing the buttons.

00:05:57.000 It's nuts.

00:05:59.000 What's up, guys?

00:06:00.000 Ready to go when you are, too.

00:06:01.000 Ladies and gentlemen, your breaking news.

00:06:03.000 This happened just a few minutes ago.

00:06:05.000 It appears that Matt Walsh has been hacked on Twitter.

00:06:09.000 And we're sitting here, we're trying to figure out what the big story of the day is.

00:06:14.000 You've got Anheuser-Busch is getting tremendous support from the American public.

00:06:18.000 You've got this story about this teenager who was shot.

00:06:21.000 And then sure enough, I think four minutes to go or whatever, Phil Labonte, he's like, Matt Walsh just tweeted that my pronouns are that and, uh, n-words.

00:06:31.000 There's an n-word. 0.81

00:06:32.000 And then, uh, he says Joe Rogan, he calls Joe Rogan a pedo. 0.99

00:06:36.000 He says he can confirm that Andrew Tate kidnapped and raped some girls.

00:06:40.000 It looks like someone might have actually stolen his phone because they just put up a picture that has, uh, someone took a picture of what looks like it might be his phone where people are Texting him, it looks like there's a Google authentication code in there, Microsoft account security code, Twitter authentication code, so... Yeah, I don't want to show that. 0.95

00:07:00.000 Like, we got some silly tweets where he's like, he said, Ben Shapiro, you know what you did, and calls him, he calls him gay.

00:07:06.000 You know, but I don't want to pull up any of Matt Walsh's private information, but ladies and gentlemen, I am a privileged individual in that I have the phone numbers of people at The Daily Wire, and as soon as it happened, I'm sorry, I ruined the fun of whoever these people are, and I immediately called them.

00:07:20.000 I was like, guys, get on this.

00:07:22.000 I'm assuming they were, you know, it's the hardest thing.

00:07:25.000 Because you never want to just be that random, nosy... Like, I don't work at the Daily Wire or anything like that.

00:07:31.000 For all I know, I call them and they're like, yes, we know.

00:07:33.000 We're on it.

00:07:34.000 Like, okay, bye.

00:07:35.000 And you're like, ah, sorry to waste your time, guys.

00:07:36.000 But I think they... Like, we caught it right when it happened.

00:07:40.000 And, you know... Oh, geez.

00:07:42.000 Wait.

00:07:42.000 What's a Matt Walsh blog?

00:07:44.000 Let me... I'm pulling up Matt Walsh's Twitter account on a separate screen because I don't want to show any of his private information.

00:07:51.000 Yeah, he's got a tweet there.

00:07:52.000 My Twitter isn't hacked, this is just the real me coming out.

00:07:55.000 And it's a picture of that phone.

00:07:56.000 You should not lend your phone to anybody in case anybody out there doesn't know that.

00:08:00.000 It's crazy to think how much is centralized in these phones now.

00:08:03.000 Yeah, but there's no way this is a prank.

00:08:08.000 This has to be hacked.

00:08:08.000 So I'm looking at it right now.

00:08:10.000 I'm not going to show it on the show.

00:08:11.000 I can't.

00:08:12.000 Because it says someone texted Matt and it says your Twitter has been hacked.

00:08:17.000 And, but the number isn't saved, which means they likely cloned his SIM card.

00:08:21.000 I was just going to say it's like a SIM clone.

00:08:23.000 It might be not the actual, uh, actual phone.

00:08:27.000 Let me, let me see if I, if I know, uh, whose number this is.

00:08:30.000 On top of that, if you look underneath there, you see like the Google verification code, Twitter authentication code.

00:08:34.000 So they probably went through and reset it to that phone in order to like, you know, remake the account.

00:08:39.000 Right.

00:08:39.000 So you can use, you can do that with the original phone and then move it to another phone, which is probably what they did.

00:08:44.000 And it's happened to me before when people have said, Hey, I am out of, Do you mind if I just use your phone to make a phone call?

00:08:50.000 Increasingly, I've just had to say... It's also on the East Coast.

00:08:53.000 Matt Walsh is either in L.A.

00:08:56.000 or he's in Nashville, I thought.

00:08:58.000 Good call.

00:08:58.000 It's our time zone.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, this is our time zone.

00:09:02.000 So, I'll stress this.

00:09:05.000 What likely happened is...

00:09:09.000 Oh, man.

00:09:09.000 I almost don't want to describe how to do it, because I don't want to spread that information.

00:09:13.000 Yeah, don't.

00:09:14.000 Not worth it.

00:09:14.000 But simply put, it is very easy to clone someone's SIM card.

00:09:19.000 And once you do, you can put into any phone, and then when you log into their account, you'll get all of their passwords.

00:09:25.000 You'll get all of their... You get everything.

00:09:28.000 You get two-factor and all that stuff.

00:09:30.000 So, I don't know what else... Phil, you said something else besides just his image?

00:09:39.000 In the image, the time is East Coast time because the picture was posted six minutes ago.

00:09:45.000 In the image, it says 8 p.m.

00:09:50.000 801 is when the image was taken of the phone.

00:09:54.000 There's that reason.

00:09:55.000 The reason why I think this is legit a hack is that, one, the phone number that messaged this phone and said your Twitter has been hacked There's no name.

00:10:05.000 If it was actually Matt Walsh, the name would be saved, which implies a SIM clone.

00:10:09.000 But then also, it shows security codes for a bunch of different accounts.

00:10:14.000 His Google account.

00:10:15.000 Yeah, right.

00:10:16.000 That's like leaking very serious access and information.

00:10:19.000 And the Twitter account, which tells you they've probably changed the password right at that time, 722 p.m.

00:10:24.000 Eastern.

00:10:24.000 So they changed the password, Twitter sent the authentication code, and now they're into his Google, they're into Microsoft.

00:10:32.000 And you know, once you're into that stuff, Yeah.

00:10:34.000 It's kind of game over.

00:10:35.000 Yeah.

00:10:36.000 Wow.

00:10:36.000 Wow It's also man

00:10:41.000 Where's Elon Musk Get on the horn, baby.

00:10:49.000 Well, I mean, if they did get a, you know, if they actually have the hardware or like, it's probably like you said, a clone because of the time.

00:10:57.000 That's what I believe because of the time zone stuff.

00:11:00.000 There's not much that anyone in particular can do.

00:11:02.000 He's going to have to make, do the running around of closing all of his accounts and handling all that stuff individually on a laptop or whatever.

00:11:08.000 He's going to have to call all of his banking stuff.

00:11:10.000 It's going to be a huge headache.

00:11:12.000 Good luck.

00:11:13.000 That's so weird.

00:11:14.000 Why would they post this photo if they actually hacked it?

00:11:17.000 That's like, when you said they posted the picture of a phone, I'm like, why would someone give up?

00:11:22.000 Like, they're incriminating themselves.

00:11:23.000 They're making it much easier to find out who did this.

00:11:26.000 Well, Kellan just messaged me that there's a bio and tweet reference to some rapper named, like, I don't want to say the name of it, but according to him it says that the bio and tweet reference is some rapper.

00:11:37.000 I don't even want to say the name.

00:11:38.000 And then it links to the Spotify for that rapper.

00:11:42.000 Right.

00:11:42.000 Really?

00:11:43.000 It says on the thing you can see Sassy Shooters.

00:11:45.000 It's a little hack job.

00:11:47.000 I'm clicking no links.

00:11:49.000 I'm not falling for that.

00:11:50.000 I imagine that it wouldn't actually be the person that did the... because this is politically motivated.

00:11:55.000 It's Matt Walsh, obviously, and so they just probably, you know, got some random dude's rapper, you know, that's got a mixtape or whatever or something like that.

00:12:06.000 But I don't imagine that the actual rapper got a hold of his thing and is like, yo, I'm gonna get Matt Walsh's information so that way I can actually promo my mixtape.

00:12:15.000 I just feel like it's more about, you know, getting at Matt Walsh because he's Matt Walsh.

00:12:19.000 But the promo's very telling.

00:12:21.000 And they splattered their promo multiple times on the Twitter page already.

00:12:25.000 I mean, good for them.

00:12:26.000 Yeah, I don't know about that.

00:12:27.000 That frames somebody, you know what I mean?

00:12:29.000 That's a good point.

00:12:30.000 I mean, maybe, you know?

00:12:33.000 How do you protect your SIM card?

00:12:34.000 Oh, sorry to interrupt.

00:12:36.000 Is this indicative that his phone was out of his hands when it was taken, or is this done digitally?

00:12:40.000 No, no.

00:12:41.000 That's crazy.

00:12:42.000 I don't want to describe how easy it is to do.

00:12:44.000 Man, that's nuts.

00:12:45.000 I will say this.

00:12:49.000 You don't need the device.

00:12:52.000 You don't need any physical object.

00:12:55.000 You only need a phone number.

00:12:58.000 That is so crazy, man.

00:13:00.000 That's it.

00:13:00.000 This world where we think we have any kind of security, it's all an illusion.

00:13:03.000 Oh, no.

00:13:03.000 Yeah, it's all an illusion.

00:13:05.000 There is no security anymore.

00:13:08.000 The idea of security, security is always what can you air gap?

00:13:14.000 If you don't have an air gap, then you do not.

00:13:16.000 That means it has to be only hardware.

00:13:18.000 It has to have no Wi-Fi ability.

00:13:20.000 Plug-in only.

00:13:21.000 And you never plug it into, like, some kind of internet that you don't know.

00:13:25.000 I mean, it's super hard to be an actual user.

00:13:26.000 Here's the other thing to consider.

00:13:28.000 All of Matt Walsh's direct messages have just been exfiltrated.

00:13:32.000 Oh! 0.60

00:13:33.000 That, that... Yeah.

00:13:36.000 So all that stuff I said to Matt, if you guys had a brain in it, it was totally a joke.

00:13:40.000 It was Chris!

00:13:42.000 No, I was like, I was thinking that, the only thing I've ever said was, like, good movie guy or something like that.

00:13:48.000 Matt Walsh, his direct messages and stuff, they're probably one step more edgy than Mitt Romney.

00:13:56.000 I don't even know about that.

00:13:57.000 I just I he's like, you know, I mean he probably gets fired up and says some bad things about trans people

00:14:03.000 but other than that which the trans people are Already completely convinced that he's gonna say that, you

00:14:08.000 know, the most terrible things possibly say about them from you know, Matt Walsh

00:14:12.000 So I'm like do I need to try and should I do something?

00:14:16.000 I don't know I you know part of me is kind of like does mind my own

00:14:18.000 business stay out of it I I felt bad enough actually calling the daily wire guys

00:14:22.000 and being like hey I do you guys know this because I feel like it's intrusive

00:14:26.000 or whatever move I mean it was great.

00:14:28.000 But like I could also reach out to...

00:14:30.000 people at Twitter and be like, Hey, you know, but I'm like, is it my place?

00:14:34.000 I, I don't imagine that there's a whole, like I said, I don't imagine that there's a whole lot that can be done.

00:14:40.000 Like the real damage is the stuff that they've got behind the scenes.

00:14:43.000 Nevermind his Twitter account.

00:14:45.000 Sure.

00:14:45.000 It exposes stuff, but right.

00:14:48.000 To consider this, whoever did this, they probably did a lot more before revealing that they did it.

00:14:54.000 If they're smart.

00:14:55.000 Yeah.

00:14:57.000 I can't believe they posted this image of the phone, though.

00:14:59.000 I mean, that just gives so much away.

00:15:01.000 7.22 p.m.

00:15:02.000 is when they broke in.

00:15:04.000 Hacked is already trending with 40,000 tweets about it.

00:15:07.000 Wow, man.

00:15:09.000 Yo, this is crazy.

00:15:11.000 What's going on?

00:15:14.000 So, you know, this just happened, and I think this is an element of...

00:15:19.000 Look, we saw Riley Gaines try to give a speech and they threatened her life. 0.71

00:15:23.000 They chase her into a room.

00:15:25.000 She gets locked in.

00:15:25.000 What was it?

00:15:25.000 Like three hours?

00:15:26.000 She's locked in as people are screaming and demanding money.

00:15:29.000 Yeah.

00:15:29.000 This is just another component.

00:15:30.000 Look, people get hacked all the time.

00:15:32.000 I don't want to act like, you know, what's happening to Matt Walsh is like the first time anyone's ever been hacked or whatever.

00:15:37.000 But you got to recognize, I mean, for us here, we've been swatted.

00:15:40.000 We were swatted 15 times in a year.

00:15:42.000 Yeah.

00:15:42.000 This is the stuff that comes with the territory.

00:15:45.000 It's like, like you said, fifth generational warfare.

00:15:47.000 This is part of it.

00:15:48.000 It's, it's not an actual, it's not combat, but it's, it's, it's definitely a part of the culture war.

00:15:55.000 It's, I mean, it's ridiculous to think that it, that it wasn't, you know, it's Matt Walsh.

00:15:59.000 He's like, I suppose we'll just keep this one on the back burner to see if there's any updates and developments.

00:16:07.000 I don't know what's going on, but for the time being it just looked like that's the last tweet 12 minutes ago saying I wasn't hacked.

00:16:12.000 Here's a picture of my phone.

00:16:15.000 That's so weird.

00:16:15.000 That's crazy.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, man.

00:16:17.000 Posting other security codes and stuff like that.

00:16:21.000 I guess we'll see, but we'll jump into the next story and we'll come back to this one if more developments come in.

00:16:28.000 This is what it's all about, right here.

00:16:29.000 Take a look at this story from the Daily Mail.

00:16:31.000 Bud Light Boycott, I'll drink to that.

00:16:33.000 Poll finds most Americans back Anheuser-Busch snub over its tie-up with Dylan Mulvaney, and say corporations give transgender rights too much attention.

00:16:42.000 Take a look at this.

00:16:43.000 Do you support or oppose the boycott of Anheuser-Busch?

00:16:48.000 37% strongly support.

00:16:50.000 17% somewhat support.

00:16:52.000 Now here's the best part.

00:16:54.000 You then have, like, the not sure segment of people is the smallest.

00:17:01.000 You've got 18% strongly opposing it, 12% somewhat opposing it.

00:17:05.000 So you're looking at the majority of people are saying outright, we are in favor of this boycott.

00:17:11.000 And that says a lot.

00:17:12.000 How many people?

00:17:14.000 It was a survey of 1,000 people.

00:17:17.000 1,000 adults from Rasmussen.

00:17:19.000 And it found that 54% of people supported it.

00:17:23.000 So Rasmussen actually tends to be decently accurate.

00:17:26.000 I would say, surprisingly not the right word.

00:17:29.000 In this regard, we take a look at a lot of the election data and Rasmussen is fairly close in terms of getting the actual results right.

00:17:38.000 So I would agree with this.

00:17:40.000 And just real quick, to shout out Jesse Kelly, when he said the first time his neighbors ever asked him about politics was because of Bud Light.

00:17:48.000 So this absolutely lines up.

00:17:49.000 Can I just point out one flaw in the poll, and this is not a knock on Rasmussen, but don't you have to ask beer drinkers?

00:17:55.000 Because this is asking adults.

00:17:57.000 It's a thousand adults.

00:17:58.000 And that's the problem we always have with these political polls that come out when they try to push people one way or another.

00:18:02.000 They say, we polled a thousand adults about Trump.

00:18:05.000 Well, adults aren't registered voters, and registered voters aren't likely voters.

00:18:10.000 It's not the best sampling.

00:18:11.000 No, but I disagree.

00:18:13.000 I don't drink, but I'm a beer buyer.

00:18:15.000 We typically would have beer stocked here.

00:18:18.000 We haven't done a little bit, but we would go out to different breweries in the area and we'd pick up cases of beer because we have guests and we have people.

00:18:25.000 Humans like beer, you know?

00:18:27.000 So, I think it's fine.

00:18:29.000 You know, just because, and think of it this way too.

00:18:31.000 Let's say, I don't know, what percentage of people don't drink beer at all, right?

00:18:36.000 They're going to go out with their friends still and they're going to be like, hey, don't buy that.

00:18:39.000 They're going to support the boycott.

00:18:41.000 Well, some of us don't drink light beer at all.

00:18:44.000 I tend to not take polls too seriously unless they're like huge, but like a thousand people.

00:18:51.000 I'm just kind of like, eh.

00:18:52.000 And you're right, maybe none of them drink or ever did and ever will, so I don't know.

00:18:56.000 And I want to not make the mistake of wanting to believe a poll that I like just because it's an outcome that I like.

00:19:03.000 Well, here's the problem with the boycott that we found at Breitbart from day one.

00:19:07.000 You're not going to drink Bud Light.

00:19:08.000 Oh, well, let's look at these other brands.

00:19:10.000 Oh, they're all also owned by Anheuser-Busch.

00:19:13.000 InBev, yeah.

00:19:14.000 Yeah, it's very, very hard to find an alternative if you like that.

00:19:18.000 Now, there are alternatives out there, but I think it brought home to people how few big companies are actually in this market.

00:19:26.000 And that in turn brought home the fact that the political agenda that companies are often indulging in has become so universal because there are so many industries we have this amount of concentrated commercial power that they can change the culture so easily with one ad campaign.

00:19:45.000 Now, I don't know if they succeeded in this one.

00:19:47.000 There's a backlash.

00:19:48.000 But from their perspective, it might actually be a successful marketing campaign because they've raised brand awareness to new heights.

00:19:54.000 People are talking about their beer.

00:19:56.000 I don't think so.

00:19:57.000 Maybe, maybe.

00:19:58.000 But, unless they come out with an apology, then it's just very, very negative.

00:20:06.000 I mean, you got Ron DeSantis coming out today, I think it was today, and he said, I'm not gonna buy their beer anymore, why would I?

00:20:11.000 Like, it's just cascading, and normally, these stories, they don't last three weeks.

00:20:17.000 Can we get him to ban that beer at Disney World, then we can put this all in one story?

00:20:21.000 That's what does it, not the prison.

00:20:23.000 You hear him mention, like, maybe they need a new prison next to, what is it, what is it called?

00:20:27.000 Something Creek?

00:20:28.000 Oh, Reedy Creek or whatever it is really.

00:20:29.000 I said they should call the prison the Epcot Correctional Center.

00:20:34.000 That's great.

00:20:35.000 I initially thought that this was going to be received as an attack on Dylan, and so I was kind of against the idea of boycotting, because I was like, people are going to take it as an attack on Dylan, they're going to take it as the right being mean-spirited, etc., and I was like, this isn't going to go well, it's going to look bad.

00:20:55.000 I'm happy to say that it looks like I'm wrong.

00:20:58.000 I think that the general population doesn't feel like they're bullying Dylan.

00:21:05.000 I think they feel like the problem is with Bud, and I think that's showing in the polls and stuff.

00:21:13.000 For me, I think my conscience is cleared in that we talk about it as if the beer company got a guy that targets children as his main audience to sponsor beer, which I don't care if you're gay or trans or whatever your sexuality or gender or whatever.

00:21:27.000 I really don't if you're a good person.

00:21:30.000 Things like this misalignment where little kids are getting fed beer ads or their favorite influencer is selling beer and they see him drinking it in the tub and they're like, nine.

00:21:38.000 That's where I think they made a huge mistake.

00:21:40.000 And I do not fault Dylan for that aspect of it, although I don't like that he, without maybe even realizing it, has kids as his little audience and is selling beer.

00:21:50.000 But I mean, he's in a meteoric rise state right now and probably doesn't have a lot of advisors around him that he can trust.

00:21:56.000 Olly London has done some digging and found various posts from Dylan Mulvaney lying.

00:22:02.000 And so, the whole thing, in my opinion, is a bit, and more evidence backs it up.

00:22:09.000 Apparently there was an old post, Dylan Mulvaney has deleted some of these old posts.

00:22:14.000 And I think the reason is, Dylan tried doing, like made a post about being trans and having trouble getting acting work, but then later made a coming out as trans.

00:22:24.000 Also said on the Rosie O'Donnell podcast, whatever show that is, that they had just started, they just came out publicly for the first time and just started taking hormones in this one video.

00:22:34.000 And then Olly was like, but if you go back, you can see that Dylan Mulvaney was, was, or I'm sorry, in the podcast, I think Dylan Mulvaney says they were taking estrogen and other pills.

00:22:43.000 But then on TikTok, there's a video where Dylan claims they just started.

00:22:47.000 What I've actually heard from some transgender individuals, they don't believe that Dylan's actually taking any estrogen at all, based on, you know, Dylan Mulvaney's body and appearance.

00:22:57.000 They think it's not true.

00:22:59.000 He's too bony.

00:23:00.000 I don't know about what their reasoning is, but the thing I pointed out the other day is that someone with, like, someone with body dysmorphia, Gender dysphoria, or anorexia, or whatever, is not going to make a video to 10 million people pointing to the thing that triggers their dysphoria or dysmorphia, like Dylan Mulvaney does.

00:23:18.000 Yeah, he's so light-hearted and joyful about that he's a woman.

00:23:22.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:23:23.000 No, no, that he's a man, that he's a man.

00:23:23.000 Who says he's a woman?

00:23:25.000 So my point is this.

00:23:26.000 He's like, look, I'm a girl!

00:23:27.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:23:28.000 That's not what I'm saying. 0.99

00:23:29.000 When Dylan Mulvaney made the video pointing to his dick and said, women have bulges, look at it, look at it, look at it, people with dysphoria don't do that because it gives them dread and anxiety. 0.99

00:23:39.000 That's kind of the point. 0.99

00:23:41.000 So, this is what I was told by a trans woman.

00:23:45.000 She said that Dylan Mulvaney doing that immediately revealed that this person is not trans

00:23:51.000 because that is like the antithesis of why someone would consider getting surgery

00:23:55.000 to remove that body part.

00:23:57.000 The idea that someone would be driven mentally to the point where they want to amputate their genitals and then to have someone like Dilma Rovani point to it on camera at 10 million people, that's the antithesis of being trans. 0.65

00:24:09.000 That's what was told to me.

00:24:11.000 I'm not trans. 0.91

00:24:11.000 I don't know. 0.91

00:24:12.000 I could be wrong.

00:24:13.000 I'm just saying I don't think it makes sense.

00:24:15.000 And so ultimately what it comes down to is I hate talking about the individual.

00:24:18.000 But this is a bigger story in how the algorithm is ruining the minds of children.

00:24:22.000 And it's like, you add on all the creepy nonsense.

00:24:25.000 They're jamming down children's throats. 0.88

00:24:27.000 Young girls getting Tourette syndrome.

00:24:29.000 Young girls getting weird surgeries and lip fillers.

00:24:32.000 And now you want them getting drunk?

00:24:35.000 Man, they are really trying to hurt kids.

00:24:38.000 I think the real issue here for conservatives is the fact that all this is about kids and that's obscured by the left deliberately and by the White House.

00:24:48.000 Extremely deliberately.

00:24:49.000 Yeah no it's just I was watching the White House press briefing a day or two ago and they were talking about how the Republican governors in the red states are passing all these anti-LGBT laws 400 laws or something like that and they Lump in the LGB with the T and they make the T all about transgenderism as opposed to kids and having kids exposed to certain things.

00:25:15.000 I think it's depressing actually to watch all this rhetoric get thrown around because none of it gives any credit to conservatives for just caring about kids, rightly or wrongly, I mean if you agree or disagree or whatever, but you have to at least recognize that the motivation There are a lot of stories coming out from detransitioners that are really, really horrifying. 0.99

00:25:33.000 conservatives are the ones, and I like the word used, bullying kids.

00:25:35.000 That's the word that they're using very effectively, that Republicans and conservatives and people

00:25:40.000 who are against all this are the bullies.

00:25:42.000 There are a lot of stories coming out from detransitioners that are really, really horrifying. 1.00

00:25:47.000 Andy No tweeted one and it got deleted.

00:25:50.000 And I guess because the individual posted it, it started getting too much attention.

00:25:53.000 But you see a lot of these stories from males and females talking about how it was a huge mistake, they were confused kids going through puberty and they were lied to and now their lives are forever ruined.

00:26:02.000 The crazy thing to me is when you get someone who's say 15 years old and then they sterilize that person, they're not going to know what they've lost for a while.

00:26:13.000 And I can't imagine.

00:26:14.000 I just couldn't imagine.

00:26:16.000 I've seen more than enough stories and heard from more than enough people who find out rather accidentally that they're sterile, infertile or otherwise.

00:26:24.000 And it's always seen as like a very devastating story like they can't have kids.

00:26:28.000 There's always these tropes about How about the movie Dogma?

00:26:33.000 The woman says that her husband left her because she found out she couldn't have kids and he didn't want to be with someone who couldn't.

00:26:39.000 That's portrayed as a very deeply negative thing.

00:26:42.000 But now, all of these young people, they're going to grow up and they're going to be like, yeah, I can't have kids. 0.59

00:26:48.000 And in fact, for many of these young people, someone like Jazz Jennings, they can't actually even experience sexual sex at all. 0.73

00:26:56.000 The situation, the more I learn details about Jazz Jennings, the more appalling it sounds.

00:27:03.000 The mother talking about the, what's it called, whatever the expander is or whatever.

00:27:10.000 Dilator.

00:27:11.000 Dilator, yeah.

00:27:12.000 Oh, there's so much more too.

00:27:13.000 Because here's the thing, you know, conservatives don't watch that show, I Am Jazz.

00:27:19.000 And I think now people are starting to realize, like, maybe we should watch that.

00:27:23.000 Because when this clip went viral showing the mother say that she basically is, like, abusing Jazz.

00:27:29.000 It's a crazy clip.

00:27:31.000 She says she, like, hold her down and force this thing into a wound to force the wound to stop healing. 0.82

00:27:36.000 It's like, it's crazy.

00:27:37.000 I think then you get conservative.

00:27:38.000 And the kid's crying, too.

00:27:40.000 Yeah.

00:27:41.000 And where are we as a society to be like, this has to stop?

00:27:46.000 This is the crazy thing to me.

00:27:48.000 I'm thinking right now about... I'm still thinking about what we were just talking about.

00:27:51.000 I'm happy to move on if you guys want to, but it's about bullying.

00:27:54.000 You guys brought up bullying, because you were saying, like, the left is claiming that people, the conservative people, are bullying the transgender community, but, like, we're here talking about, no, it's about selling, like, twisting kids up when they're young.

00:28:05.000 That's the problem.

00:28:06.000 But I'm looking at Matt Walsh's Twitter from April 17th, and it says, the tweet says, to win with this Bud Light situation is when they publicly apologize for promoting transgenderism. 0.93

00:28:15.000 Which, that's not about her, it has nothing to do with kids.

00:28:18.000 He is actually saying he's angry that the transgender, the concept of transgenderism, is being promoted.

00:28:24.000 To kids!

00:28:25.000 He didn't say that, he just said in general.

00:28:27.000 Now I'm wondering if a 20-year-old guy, rock musician, got a Bud Light contract, would anyone even make a noise about it?

00:28:34.000 If his fans were 15-year-olds, I don't think anyone would even care because he's just a regular 20-year-old guy.

00:28:38.000 But it's Dylan Mulvaney with a dress on, so now it's getting a lot of attention.

00:28:38.000 I would.

00:28:41.000 I absolutely would take issue with a 20-year-old musician selling beer to children.

00:28:46.000 21, but... Or any... I don't care if the guy's 60 years old and for some reason his audience is 15, I think it's a bad thing.

00:28:52.000 The issue is, how notable is that individual in the culture war for us to even notice it's happening?

00:28:57.000 Just because I didn't notice a thing doesn't mean I'm okay with it.

00:29:00.000 And this is an argument the left uses all the time where they're like, If you're so concerned about that, what about this?

00:29:06.000 And it's like, wow, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

00:29:08.000 I am also appalled by that.

00:29:10.000 They do this thing where they're like, drag queen story, our concert is so mad about this, but I don't see them complaining about children beauty pageants.

00:29:16.000 And it's like, what?

00:29:17.000 It's like 20 years ago.

00:29:18.000 Me and my friends were smack talking child beauty pageants as being gross. 0.98

00:29:22.000 We'll still do it today.

00:29:23.000 They're just not that big.

00:29:25.000 They're not that prominent.

00:29:26.000 They're not in the national conversation.

00:29:27.000 But I got no problem saying those things are nasty.

00:29:29.000 And I got no problem saying little boys should be going to Hooters as like an appropriate place to get dinner. 0.97

00:29:34.000 But that being said, as much as the left likes making that argument, I'm like, dude, women having boobs and a restaurant just having women there is very, very different from having kink shows for children. 0.97

00:29:46.000 So I want to bend this metaphor a little.

00:29:48.000 If a 24-year-old musician With fans that are younger, got a Bud Light contract, would anyone blink an eye?

00:29:55.000 But the thing is, you can't quantify the age of the fans, you just don't know.

00:29:55.000 Yes!

00:29:58.000 But we can with TikTok!

00:29:59.000 You know, we did this, we had this debate a little bit over cigarettes, right?

00:30:02.000 They cancelled Joe Camel about, I don't know, 15 years ago because the cartoon image of the camel was thought to appeal to children.

00:30:09.000 And so the maker of those cigarettes, I can't remember which company makes camel, it's just camel, they got rid of Joe Camel.

00:30:16.000 And for that reason, because even though it wasn't appearing in children's media, kids were seeing the Joe Camel and thinking, okay, there's this cartoon that they associate with cigarettes.

00:30:24.000 But, you know, let's be real.

00:30:25.000 Like, James Bond was a bigger influence in getting kids to smoke than Joe Camel was.

00:30:29.000 If I was 20, I was an actor.

00:30:30.000 No, but seriously.

00:30:31.000 I was an actor in my early 20s.

00:30:32.000 I mean, I'm still an actor, but I was in Hollywood for a lot of that.

00:30:34.000 And if I'd booked a Bud Light commercial at the age of 25 and people went nuts on me because some of my fans were 16 and 17, I would be out of my mind pissed off at them for that.

00:30:43.000 I'm over 21, man.

00:30:43.000 But that's not it.

00:30:44.000 I'm selling beer.

00:30:45.000 That's not it.

00:30:47.000 Dylan Mulvaney is on TikTok with 11 million followers, and outside of Dylan Mulvaney, the average TikTok user is 20 years old.

00:30:56.000 That means if you were to take every single person using the platform, which includes adults, it still skews young.

00:31:03.000 And Dylan Mulvaney's audience, at the very least, is underage and should not be drinking.

00:31:08.000 But let's be real, Bud Light, Anheuser-Busch, They all know kids who are 18 are drinking, and my personal opinion is that drinking age should be 18, and people shouldn't drink either way, but if you're an adult, you should be allowed to.

00:31:19.000 The point is, Dylan Mulvaney's audience isn't 20 years old.

00:31:22.000 That's the TikTok average.

00:31:24.000 Dylan Mulvaney's audience skews much lower than that, and is probably closer to 15.

00:31:28.000 You know, and even then, I wouldn't blame the guy for having a young audience, and I don't think it's that big.

00:31:34.000 It's that he dressed up as a little girl, Eloise, and did a video a month or so ago, pretending to be a little girl.

00:31:40.000 And then he sells beer the next month.

00:31:40.000 That's what they do.

00:31:41.000 Remember the guy who was the trans little girl?

00:31:45.000 That old guy?

00:31:46.000 Let me pull this thing up.

00:31:47.000 Oh, God.

00:31:48.000 You know, the whole drag queen story hour is also interesting, because the whole drag phenomenon has changed as well.

00:31:54.000 There is video of Donald Trump sitting on the couch, I can't remember what talk show it was, but next to Dame Edna, I don't know if you remember Dame Edna, you know, famous drag queen.

00:32:03.000 Here you go, here you go everybody.

00:32:04.000 And it was just kind of ordinary, like Rudy Giuliani dressing in drag on Saturday Night Live.

00:32:08.000 And again, it's about adults and it's not a show meant for kids, but the strip teases and the kink shows I think are, again, when kids are coming to that or being brought to that, that's what people are objecting to, not drag in general.

00:32:21.000 Right, and interestingly, even some Democrats don't want drag for anybody.

00:32:25.000 I think it's 8%.

00:32:26.000 We were talking about this the other day.

00:32:28.000 Most Americans, 52%, think drag should just be for adults.

00:32:31.000 A large portion are unsure, and then it's like 24% think anyone should be able to see a drag show, even a child.

00:32:37.000 But those are, of course, Democrats.

00:32:39.000 And a small portion of independents.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, we had this story from a while ago.

00:32:42.000 This is a guy who lives as a six-year-old girl Like, sure, whatever, man.

00:32:49.000 If that guy got a Bud Light contract, I'd be pissed.

00:32:49.000 Do your thing.

00:32:51.000 Because he's dressing as a six-year-old.

00:32:54.000 I actually would not.

00:32:55.000 Really?

00:32:56.000 Yeah.

00:32:56.000 No, dude.

00:32:57.000 I don't care.

00:32:58.000 Remember Jack Daniels?

00:33:00.000 People were floating the idea of boycotting Jack Daniels because they sponsored RuPaul's Drag Race.

00:33:05.000 Nobody cared!

00:33:06.000 Everyone was like, hey, look what they did!

00:33:07.000 And everyone was like, yeah, I don't really care that much.

00:33:09.000 There was no massive national wave of outrage when people found out about that because RuPaul's Drag Race is a bunch of adults.

00:33:15.000 Right.

00:33:15.000 And then you also had Coors Light did a Pride commercial.

00:33:19.000 Some people pointed out that even Yingling has had a Pride commercial before.

00:33:22.000 Nobody cares!

00:33:22.000 There's also a distinction from trans to drag.

00:33:27.000 Exactly.

00:33:29.000 The issue is, I think, twofold.

00:33:30.000 The first is that Dylan Mulvaney is, I think, mocking women intentionally, and trans people, and targeting children.

00:33:39.000 But also, let's just be real, Dylan Mulvaney is very annoying to people.

00:33:44.000 And I'm not trying to be mean when I say that.

00:33:46.000 I'm saying people describe Dylan as nails on a chalkboard.

00:33:49.000 I like him.

00:33:51.000 What?

00:33:51.000 He's like a theater guy I went to school with, man.

00:33:55.000 What I see is, with Dil Mulvaney, I see TikTok exploiting someone who is clearly unwell.

00:34:01.000 Like, the Bud Light commercial, he was just, like, shaking back and forth and doing these weird motions.

00:34:06.000 Like, something's wrong.

00:34:07.000 And normally, if we saw someone, like, on the Price is Right, rolling on the floor, screaming at the top of their lungs.

00:34:12.000 I'm not kidding.

00:34:13.000 Watch the Price is Right video of Dil Mulvaney.

00:34:15.000 Dil Mulvaney, more than one occasion, screams the top of his lungs.

00:34:20.000 Like, And normally, if you saw someone do that, you'd be like, I think this person is in need of some kind of help.

00:34:26.000 He was on Ellen DeGeneres.

00:34:28.000 This dude has clearly got some kind of narcissistic personality disorder. 0.85

00:34:31.000 They are feeding this stuff to two kids. 0.90

00:34:34.000 That is why I'm upset.

00:34:35.000 Now, obviously, Matt Walsh is upset with gender ideology being pushed.

00:34:40.000 But I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

00:34:41.000 I mean, he's allowed to be mad and see whatever he wants to see.

00:34:44.000 But I've said this when he talks about Dylan Mulvaney.

00:34:46.000 Dylan Mulvaney does not represent trans people.

00:34:49.000 Not in the slightest. 0.74

00:34:50.000 It is this weird mockery. 0.82

00:34:53.000 It's almost trans face. 0.94

00:34:55.000 It's like this dude singing about his bulge.

00:34:58.000 Come on, man.

00:34:59.000 I think the left goes way overboard with a whole bunch of this stuff.

00:35:05.000 I think they lose it when they support people like Dylan Mulvaney.

00:35:07.000 But there is a fair point to be said that there are many trans people who use bathrooms and no one says anything.

00:35:12.000 No one knows, maybe.

00:35:14.000 Exactly, exactly. 0.90

00:35:15.000 So when you see Dylan Mulvaney putting on this performance which makes trans people look like psychopaths, to the point where it's easy to attack the entirety of all transgender people, it's like, okay, that's why Dylan Mulvaney's a problem.

00:35:29.000 So I'll put it this way, and always to rope in our good friend Blair White in this one, but it's because Blair White is our friend that I want to bring this up.

00:35:38.000 Blair White's super awesome! 0.68

00:35:39.000 And not doing any of this weird, crazy, garbage nonsense. 0.64

00:35:43.000 There's a whole bunch of individuals. 0.93

00:35:44.000 Sarah Higdon we had on the show.

00:35:45.000 Totally rational, reasonable people who aren't rolling on the ground screaming.

00:35:50.000 And then Dylan Mulvaney goes on camera and just becomes a caricature of the most insane depiction of whatever this is.

00:35:56.000 Enough to the point where it's the primary focus of when conservatives are trying to say like, hey, this is our problem with gender ideology. 1.00

00:36:03.000 Well, how much of that is baiting the conservatives?

00:36:05.000 I mean, they've successfully now involved the whole conservative movement in reacting in outrage to a TikTok character.

00:36:10.000 How much of it is a successful marketing ploy or even a political plan to rile up conservatives using the most egregious example, let's say, of one category of entertainment?

00:36:21.000 And then we go for it and then Gavin Newsom piles on and everybody else piles on and they talk about Republicans bullying people and suddenly Younger voters are convinced that Republicans are awful people who don't understand social media and don't understand them.

00:36:34.000 That was my problem with conservatives when I was like in 2005 when I was, you know, hallmark liberal.

00:36:40.000 They were so easy to upset if I made fun of Jesus.

00:36:43.000 I could rile up.

00:36:45.000 So predictable.

00:36:46.000 They were just so overly sensitive, reactionary, just so easy to take control of those people.

00:36:52.000 And it is something people need to work on.

00:36:54.000 One of the reasons people might be as sensitive about this issue in particular and TikTok is just the degree to which parents watch their kids on devices during the pandemic and parents are hypersensitive right now to everything that's being fed to kids on social media.

00:37:06.000 There's a huge problem right now of school refusal.

00:37:08.000 Kids who were on their devices for two years and now have to go back to school and just simply refuse to sit at a desk and listen to a teacher and participate in class.

00:37:15.000 And so the devices have become much more a part of kids' everyday reality, and I think that might also be driving some of this.

00:37:21.000 Not necessarily the transgender stuff, but you've got this person who is influencing kids, now they're representing an alcoholic beverage or whatever, and parents are freaked out, maybe a little more than usual, because of the degree to which they've seen their kids' lives taken over by devices and social media. 0.98

00:37:35.000 I agree.

00:37:36.000 I have to imagine, and some people watching may even have experienced this, one day you ask your kid, like, what are you looking at?

00:37:44.000 And they're like, oh, Dylan Mulvaney.

00:37:45.000 And they're like, oh, and they look and it's Dylan Mulvaney drinking beer and being like Bud Light.

00:37:49.000 And they're like, whoa, man!

00:37:51.000 Like, I don't, maybe you shouldn't be on this app if it's some adult guy dressed like a little girl trying to convince you to start drinking booze. 0.98

00:37:59.000 Something about that just doesn't seem right.

00:38:00.000 I think a lot of parents are, that's probably why this reached a level of regular Americans are saying they support a boycott of Anheuser-Busch.

00:38:08.000 Nike, I think another good example of why this is the case is Nike, because people did get mad that Dylan Mulvaney was sponsored by Nike, but that one didn't really go anywhere either, because that wasn't targeting children.

00:38:21.000 It was just kind of insulting women, but you know, the women didn't get pissed off enough. 1.00

00:38:26.000 Going after kids and telling them to drink, and basically insulting March Madness and the core demographic of just like middle-aged white dudes who drink beer, really, really bad play on this one.

00:38:38.000 So anyway, that being said, the latest news on the Matt Walsh hack is they've deleted all of the hacked tweets.

00:38:44.000 They're gone.

00:38:46.000 Looks like the account is back to normal.

00:38:48.000 I hope he gets his phone back or whatever.

00:38:50.000 And it looks like it's just the last tweet is, you know, he's going to be speaking at the University of Iowa.

00:38:54.000 They've still got to fix his bio.

00:38:57.000 Oh yeah, they've got to fix his bio.

00:39:02.000 He'll be speaking at the University of Iowa tomorrow night.

00:39:06.000 Let's jump from this and go into the other really big story.

00:39:09.000 And I gotta be honest, I kind of wanted to lead with this one.

00:39:12.000 And part of me really despises the idea that we would lead with it at all, but I think we have to because this is a story about Ralph Yarle.

00:39:20.000 I'm not interested in talking about the story of a teenager getting shot.

00:39:23.000 Why?

00:39:25.000 Because teenagers get shot all the time.

00:39:26.000 Because trespassers get shot all the time.

00:39:29.000 And these stories aren't always justified hero stories.

00:39:31.000 Sometimes they're tragic stories of accidents.

00:39:34.000 Why did this story get national attention?

00:39:38.000 It makes no sense.

00:39:41.000 Growing up in Chicago, I can't tell you how many times there are stories of a white dude shooting a black kid or a black guy shooting a white kid or something like that happening.

00:39:47.000 And no one in the country cares about it, but this one time, this one story all of a sudden becomes a major headline.

00:39:55.000 It's almost like they're trying to distract from something, they're trying to capture media attention or push some objective or agenda or something like that.

00:40:03.000 And I gotta tell you, I'm not super concerned about this story.

00:40:08.000 Let me see if I have the other story.

00:40:11.000 What do we got?

00:40:12.000 Is it over here?

00:40:13.000 No, it's not there.

00:40:14.000 Is it... Actually, I don't know if I have it pulled up.

00:40:17.000 The tweet I was going to pull up I referenced earlier is a woman being mercilessly beaten in Chicago by a large group of black teenagers. 0.92

00:40:26.000 Now, hold on.

00:40:27.000 A lot of people pointed out she's not actually the subject of the beating.

00:40:31.000 She's just being attacked so that they can beat someone else. 0.60

00:40:34.000 And I'm just like, much better.

00:40:36.000 Yeah, okay, like, wait, what?

00:40:37.000 So the video is they grab her by the neck and they pull her by her neck back and then slam her to the ground or something and then I guess start pummeling and beating some guy and that we're supposed to be like, oh, okay, grabbing this woman by the throat and slam her to the ground and then stomping on this guy is, it's all, it's okay now.

00:41:00.000 But my point is this.

00:41:02.000 Why didn't any of these stories about the cars getting torched become the national conversation?

00:41:07.000 Where was the activist protest?

00:41:09.000 Where was the outrage?

00:41:09.000 I think this explains it.

00:41:11.000 Why is this story in the news?

00:41:13.000 Because protesters, people protested.

00:41:16.000 When a white woman gets beat in Chicago, can you rely on any conservative to go march in the street? 1.00

00:41:20.000 Of course you can't, they don't care.

00:41:22.000 They'll post on Twitter and go, man, look at that, and then they'll crack open a Bud Light and have a sip.

00:41:26.000 Okay, maybe not so much Bud Light anymore, but some of them still are probably cracking open Bud Light, being like, what do I care?

00:41:33.000 And that's the issue.

00:41:34.000 The left is fervent and willing to push and fight for anything, and the right is kind of just like, meh, what am I going to do about it, right?

00:41:41.000 Here we are.

00:41:42.000 There's definitely a movement to transform the United States government into something more mob rule, I think, with mass movements and pressure.

00:41:51.000 And that's why they're so active trying to do it.

00:41:54.000 Well, those of us who know and love Chicago, and I also grew up in Chicago suburbs, Oak Park and Skokie.

00:42:01.000 I do have the video, actually.

00:42:02.000 We can pull it up.

00:42:02.000 We understand that where all this happened was by Millennium Park, which is basically the heart of the city.

00:42:09.000 It's the touristy area.

00:42:10.000 And it's shocking that something like that would happen there.

00:42:13.000 And it's a repeat in a sense of the 2020 riots when looters went down Michigan Avenue.

00:42:19.000 This was no longer confined to the south side and the west side.

00:42:21.000 This was now happening in full view.

00:42:23.000 And it's one of the reasons people voted out Lori Lightfoot. 0.93

00:42:26.000 But they've voted in Brandon Johnson, who's even more to the left, and he's been saying crazy things about this.

00:42:33.000 But you know why?

00:42:33.000 Teachers' unions, I mean, basically... No, no, no, it was our race.

00:42:39.000 I tracked the voting patterns and then the racial demographics of Chicago, and it's one for one. 0.99

00:42:48.000 The only exception is the university area, Overtly voted for Johnson, whereas every other part of the city basically just voted for, like the white neighborhoods voted for the white guy, the Hispanic areas voted for the Hispanic guy, and the black neighborhoods voted for Lori Lightfoot.

00:43:04.000 So my prediction was, if all the black neighborhoods' top three candidates were all black, even though, like, so in the heart of the black neighborhoods of Chicago, Their first choice was Lori Lightfoot. 0.81

00:43:18.000 Their second choice was Brandon Johnson.

00:43:20.000 Their third choice was, you know, some other guy.

00:43:23.000 But when you look at how they voted, the white candidates don't even register at all.

00:43:28.000 Right.

00:43:29.000 Voting in Chicago is kind of a racial census and always has been.

00:43:32.000 Paul Vallis, the guy who lost, narrowly lost in this election, is the latest in a long line of liberal white reformers in Chicago who can't get elected.

00:43:41.000 And Vallis is a household name in Chicago because he ran the Chicago Public Schools.

00:43:45.000 He was appointed by Mayor Daley.

00:43:48.000 And Daley ran the Chicago machine.

00:43:50.000 It was corrupt, but he ran it with some nod at least toward the idea that residents deserve some value for their services.

00:43:57.000 and he appointed Vallis to clean up Chicago public schools.

00:43:59.000 He did a pretty decent job.

00:44:00.000 Obviously, they're still not great.

00:44:02.000 But you just can't win running in a general election in Chicago like that.

00:44:06.000 The only reason Rahm Emanuel did is he was seen as Obama's surrogate in Chicago,

00:44:09.000 and that's why he got elected.

00:44:10.000 So my prediction was if the university sector is going to vote for Brandon Johnson,

00:44:16.000 and the black neighborhoods are going to vote for whichever candidate who's running as black,

00:44:20.000 and the white neighborhoods are gonna vote for whichever candidate is white, 0.94

00:44:22.000 it's gonna be Brandon Johnson who wins because the tiebreaker goes to the far left extremists.

00:44:26.000 Conservatives don't have any footprint, don't have any organizing, don't have any base, so the only politically active sector was the far-left extremists, and so it was fairly obvious who was going to break the tie.

00:44:37.000 Right, and the white voters in Chicago, very few of them are conservative.

00:44:41.000 It's not like the racial breakdown maps onto any kind of political breakdown.

00:44:46.000 Irony is that Chicago white liberals are very far to the left, as you mentioned, around the universities and things like that.

00:44:52.000 So for them, they hate conservatives.

00:44:54.000 I'm generalizing, of course, there are some conservatives, there are some Republicans, but they would never be caught dead voting for a Republican and yet they're stuck in this kind of racial vortex where they're Living in a city where they basically have this democracy that doesn't work.

00:45:08.000 Yes, they threw out the bad mayor, but they're going to get someone who's possibly even worse.

00:45:11.000 Let's pull this image back up.

00:45:13.000 You can see it right here.

00:45:15.000 And I have one thing to say to this.

00:45:17.000 One thing to say to this.

00:45:18.000 Actually, let me ask you, Joel.

00:45:20.000 Does that screenshot anger you in any way?

00:45:23.000 Does it make you angry?

00:45:24.000 Absolutely.

00:45:25.000 It does?

00:45:26.000 It's awful that anybody gets beaten up like that.

00:45:30.000 Well, I gotta stop you right there.

00:45:32.000 Do you not believe that women have the right to vote? 1.00

00:45:36.000 Of course you do.

00:45:36.000 Okay, well then why are you angry?

00:45:39.000 Are you angry that this woman's choice you think is wrong?

00:45:42.000 No, no, no.

00:45:42.000 I respect this woman's right to choose.

00:45:44.000 And if she voted for this, well who am I to be angry that she's getting what she voted for?

00:45:49.000 Right?

00:45:50.000 Women have agency. 0.96

00:45:52.000 They can vote for whatever they want.

00:45:54.000 And I believe that if I were to make a wager on who she voted for, likely she voted for the Democrats.

00:46:01.000 She probably voted for Brandon Johnson. 1.00

00:46:03.000 I mean, that's the most likely outcome.

00:46:04.000 The guy won.

00:46:05.000 So my view is this.

00:46:06.000 Obviously, no one seriously wants anyone to get attacked like that.

00:46:10.000 But at a certain point, I have to say, I will not project my values onto someone else.

00:46:17.000 We will go and vote, and then if you are successful in, you know, supporting your ideas, you win.

00:46:24.000 I look at the people of Chicago with all the rioting and the looting, the vandalism, the chaos, and the shootings, and I'm just like, once again, the people of Chicago have gotten what they voted for.

00:46:33.000 Why should I be upset about that?

00:46:35.000 I don't live there.

00:46:36.000 You know, like, if a bunch of people in France voted to make it so that everybody gets a free baguette in the morning, I'm not gonna complain about it.

00:46:43.000 I'm not gonna cry and scream and demand an end to socialism.

00:46:45.000 I'm like, I don't know, I don't live in France.

00:46:47.000 So let them vote for what they want.

00:46:49.000 The tragedy is that so many people who just want to live regular lives are leaving these places, so there's almost no prospect of political change.

00:46:56.000 And it's possible you might have seen Republican candidates, for example, do better in the midterms in some of the blue states of the Northeast if more people hadn't moved to Florida.

00:47:05.000 And, you know, good for them.

00:47:07.000 But these places are not Benefiting from democracy because yes, they can sometimes get rid of the worst candidates But they can't elect anyone who's going to make a difference and make anything better.

00:47:19.000 And so there's this Vortex in these cities and states that are just going to continue to fail and what you saw this week with the House Judiciary Committee having those hearings on crime in New York was that, as Mark Levin pointed out, it took a House Republican majority to give voice to these Democratic voters in New York City who had been ignored by their own party for decades and who finally had a chance to tell their story and all Democrats could tell them was that they were props for Donald Trump.

00:47:45.000 That is hilarious.

00:47:47.000 Smart, brilliant, masterful move by Republicans to say, we're going to come in here and we're going to try and address the issues that are concerning to you.

00:47:54.000 Brilliant.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, and it took them to do it, but there's no mechanism in these cities to make these people's lives any better.

00:48:02.000 And yes, they keep voting in the same governments, but they're not really presented with choices.

00:48:07.000 Let me ask you, are you for Trump or DeSantis?

00:48:10.000 Trump right now.

00:48:11.000 Trump.

00:48:12.000 If Trump gets elected in 2024, and then as soon as he's inaugurated in 2025, he immediately begins arresting these politicians in New York and Chicago and LA and SF, and then appointing interim government, would that be a bad thing?

00:48:30.000 I don't think he should arrest them, but I think he can... Like Cuomo?

00:48:34.000 Cuomo, well, which one?

00:48:37.000 The former governor?

00:48:40.000 He killed a bunch of people in nursing homes.

00:48:42.000 Well, okay.

00:48:43.000 I think it's tough to call for the arrest of the opposition, but I think he could certainly take legal action against these cities.

00:48:50.000 One thing I wish he would do or would have done in L.A.— Let me just finish a thought.

00:48:54.000 I think there are other things the federal government can do.

00:48:57.000 That have nothing to do with dealing with opposition politicians.

00:49:00.000 I think FEMA should come into LA and declare it a disaster for the homeless problem.

00:49:05.000 It's the only way we're going to solve the homeless problem is to get that level of intervention.

00:49:08.000 But my question was, would it be a bad thing?

00:49:10.000 I think so.

00:49:11.000 I think you can't arrest the opposition.

00:49:13.000 I didn't like it when Trump said lock her up.

00:49:14.000 Even for the crimes they committed?

00:49:17.000 I don't know if you define that as a crime.

00:49:19.000 If you're in political office and you make terrible, terrible mistakes like Andrew Cuomo made with sending— But he was told he was going to kill people.

00:49:26.000 He was warned by his medical advisors that putting COVID patients in nursing homes would kill them.

00:49:30.000 And he didn't want to put—he had the comfort ready and available, and the Javits Center, and I guess he didn't want Trump to get a victory.

00:49:38.000 So my view is... Will people testify to that?

00:49:41.000 That was in the news.

00:49:42.000 I don't know.

00:49:42.000 It was like the New York Times reported.

00:49:44.000 I'm pretty sure that he was warned.

00:49:45.000 He was warned fairly early on.

00:49:47.000 But at that stage, though, I think there was so much conflicting advice.

00:49:50.000 I'm not trying to make excuses for him.

00:49:51.000 And actually, I was one of the people who reported pretty extensively on that story of the nursing homes in New York.

00:49:56.000 But I just don't know that you can hold politicians criminally liable for terrible policy mistakes, as long as they're not breaking the law.

00:50:05.000 Obviously one of the worst decisions made during COVID was that decision,

00:50:08.000 especially when they had the Army Field Hospital and so forth.

00:50:10.000 But the reason I ask is that if the reason I ask is because quite literally what the

00:50:17.000 Democrats are doing, yes, is going after their opposition with arresting them,

00:50:21.000 like targeting Trump specifically.

00:50:23.000 But they obviously won't stop there.

00:50:26.000 Look at how they handle the protests at the Supreme Court justices' homes.

00:50:29.000 Law enforcement for Antifa?

00:50:31.000 Non-existent.

00:50:32.000 Law enforcement for Proud Boys?

00:50:33.000 Lock them up.

00:50:34.000 So it's active and it's happening, and conservatives are the ones who play the game where it's like, well, we shouldn't return those tactics, we shouldn't do the same thing.

00:50:42.000 And it's like, OK, well, you know, Trump will be convicted.

00:50:45.000 There is no circumstance in my mind where a New York jury will acquit Donald Trump.

00:50:49.000 That just seems impossible to me.

00:50:50.000 But maybe I'm wrong about that.

00:50:52.000 And then people are going to be like, well, it's a state state issue, so he can't be part of the federal level.

00:50:57.000 So if he gets elected, he'll be in prison in New York, New York City or state.

00:51:01.000 So I don't know how that works, but they're doing it.

00:51:04.000 They've been doing it.

00:51:05.000 And then I look at what's going on in all these cities.

00:51:08.000 And I'm not going to sit here and say that I think it would be a good thing that you get some like autocrat to go in and start purging and getting rid of the opposition or anything like that because they would do the same thing.

00:51:16.000 But I kind of feel like at this point that's the only thing that's going to happen.

00:51:21.000 Either it's going to be Democrats doing it to Republicans like they're already doing now or Republicans doing it to Democrats.

00:51:24.000 It doesn't matter what you think is good.

00:51:25.000 It doesn't matter what you want to happen.

00:51:27.000 What matters is Democrats are currently doing it.

00:51:31.000 And if Republicans don't, then Republicans will just be the ones getting locked up, and then you'll live under the boot of the Democratic Party.

00:51:36.000 I don't disagree with you.

00:51:36.000 I mean, I've actually said publicly that once they indicted Trump, I said, well, the very first thing that should happen when a new Republican administration takes over, whether it's Trump or somebody else, is they should immediately indict and arrest Joe Biden and his family for all the influence-peddling they've done and for all the financial crimes.

00:51:51.000 And that's not speculative.

00:51:53.000 You know, that's...

00:51:54.000 public record.

00:51:55.000 I hear Democrat spokespeople going on Fox and saying things like, well, where's the evidence?

00:51:59.000 Well, you know, the laptop you've been ignoring for three years as, you know, for one thing.

00:52:02.000 So I think they've set a precedent and the only way you get back to a reasonable middle is if the Democrats know that you're capable of retaliating.

00:52:10.000 I think that's one of the reasons there's still a filibuster, by the way, because when Harry Reid got rid of the filibuster for some of the judicial nominees and then Republicans came in and got rid of it for all judicial nominees and put Republican nominees on the Supreme Court, Democrats learned the hard way that by busting these norms they set themselves up for failure and I think that's one of the reasons they didn't get rid of the filibuster during the first two years of Biden's term when there was a lot of pressure to do it.

00:52:32.000 He's talking about doing it still but they know now that you could very well be on the other foot after 2024.

00:52:36.000 It probably will be in the Senate because it's such a favorable map for Republicans.

00:52:39.000 But that's still, that's stamp collecting compared to what the Democrats are doing.

00:52:43.000 Correct.

00:52:44.000 They're actively trying to imprison Donald Trump at the federal level, at the state level in New York and in Georgia.

00:52:50.000 Don't forget the Hague war crimes or crimes against humanity.

00:52:56.000 You're absolutely right, they'll go after him wherever they can.

00:52:58.000 And it's disgusting.

00:53:01.000 So the end result is either Donald Trump goes in, Immediately instructs his new AG, his acting AG, once he's in, to file criminal indictments for all literal and provable criminal charges against as many bureaucrats and politicians as possible.

00:53:20.000 We can't just sit back anymore and be like, well, you know, we know they're corrupt, but going after them would destabilize the system.

00:53:27.000 It's like, are you kidding?

00:53:28.000 The system's destabilized.

00:53:29.000 No, I agree with you.

00:53:29.000 If you have literal and provable criminal charges, absolutely.

00:53:33.000 Obama killed a 16-year-old kid, Cuomo, Newsom, Whitmer.

00:53:36.000 Who else do we got?

00:53:38.000 A handful of governors killed a bunch of nursing home residents.

00:53:43.000 So I think those, right off the bat, are plain and obvious.

00:53:46.000 You've got constitutional violations in every single blue state, which does violate federal law.

00:53:52.000 There's a federal law of a public official who intentionally deprived someone of their

00:53:57.000 constitutional rights.

00:53:58.000 It's actually a crime.

00:53:59.000 So he could actually indict all of them on all of this.

00:54:01.000 Heck, he could even indict Ron DeSantis.

00:54:03.000 Not that that would go over very well because Ron DeSantis was one of the governors who

00:54:06.000 actually lifted the restrictions and let the state reopen.

00:54:10.000 But in New York, shutting down churches, and then when the Supreme Court was like, you

00:54:13.000 can't do it, he goes, okay, I'll just issue another executive order and do it again.

00:54:17.000 Like, come on.

00:54:17.000 At a certain point, it's like, you're committing crimes and abusing your power.

00:54:21.000 So I kind of feel like that's the only path that results in any real change.

00:54:25.000 The end result is, if Donald Trump... I'm saying outright, Arresting people for actually crimes that they're indicted for.

00:54:33.000 I'm not saying to randomly go in and just be like, well, we're gonna arrest him for no reason.

00:54:36.000 I'm saying like actually be like, okay, well that guy didn't actually do that, so you're good.

00:54:40.000 This guy clearly has a list of things he's done that's corrupt.

00:54:43.000 Okay, we're gonna charge you.

00:54:45.000 We can't just sit back and be like politicians are above the law anymore.

00:54:48.000 Especially considering Democrats made the same exact argument.

00:54:51.000 That's the game that we're playing right now.

00:54:52.000 They say that, well, Donald Trump, you know, may have filed the books wrong, so he's got to go to prison.

00:54:57.000 And I'm like, okay, well, Barack Obama blew up a kid in Yemen.

00:55:00.000 Jail.

00:55:01.000 Lock him up.

00:55:01.000 Jail.

00:55:02.000 If Donald Trump has to go to prison for six months because he filed his books wrong, well, it's unfortunate.

00:55:07.000 I look forward to seeing Barack Obama serve life in jail for killing Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.

00:55:11.000 If you will put, if putting Donald Trump in jail for six months or whatever, We'll get Barack Obama in jail for killing an American citizen. 1.00

00:55:22.000 I will drag Donald Trump's ass to jail kicking and screaming myself. 1.00

00:55:28.000 I will go to Florida and get him to put Obama in jail for violating the Constitution. 1.00

00:55:35.000 Absolutely!

00:55:36.000 Absolutely.

00:55:36.000 But beyond just that, I mean, he murdered more than, I think it was like four American citizens.

00:55:40.000 I could be wrong.

00:55:41.000 I know Anwar and Abdulrahman.

00:55:43.000 I think it was like six.

00:55:44.000 I've heard six.

00:55:44.000 Was it six?

00:55:45.000 I've heard four before.

00:55:46.000 What about George Bush Jr.

00:55:47.000 and Dick Cheney?

00:55:48.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:48.000 I mean, yo!

00:55:49.000 Are you kidding?

00:55:50.000 See, the problem is if you went into office as the president and you're like, schedule F, I'm going after all of them.

00:55:55.000 You're all indicted.

00:55:55.000 You hear me?

00:55:56.000 Everyone's indicted. 0.96

00:55:57.000 You'd wake up dead the next morning.

00:55:59.000 You wouldn't wake up the next morning. 0.98

00:56:00.000 You'd be dead.

00:56:00.000 No one would lose their job.

00:56:02.000 Yeah.

00:56:02.000 I disagree.

00:56:03.000 Well, I don't know about that.

00:56:07.000 No, I disagree.

00:56:08.000 We're in the era of character assassination.

00:56:11.000 Look what they're doing to Trump.

00:56:12.000 They're doing everything in their power to try and stop him.

00:56:15.000 And you don't want to make a martyr of people.

00:56:17.000 The CIA learned this a long time ago.

00:56:19.000 The people they were trying to fight, they created immortal statues of.

00:56:23.000 And they're like, okay, we shouldn't do that anymore.

00:56:24.000 So what do they do?

00:56:25.000 Julian Assange is a good example.

00:56:27.000 Julian Assange didn't wake up dead.

00:56:28.000 They just locked him in a box for a decade and accused him of being Absolutely right, that it is character assassination.

00:56:33.000 That's why they're trying to prevent Trump from running for president.

00:56:35.000 I think he has a near zero percent chance of becoming president at this point.

00:56:39.000 Let me ask you something.

00:56:39.000 I don't know, man.

00:56:40.000 Like, Epstein is dead.

00:56:42.000 So, I mean, I do think that they will go with options depending on the person.

00:56:47.000 So maybe you're right about Donald Trump.

00:56:48.000 Maybe they would go for character assassination.

00:56:50.000 But Epstein wasn't a strong, like, public figure.

00:56:52.000 Yeah, but the CIA is not above killing people.

00:56:55.000 Well sure, sure, I get it, but what I'm saying is Epstein's not a good example because he was trying to be in the shadows.

00:56:59.000 Fair.

00:56:59.000 Let me ask you something about the interference in elections aspect of this.

00:57:03.000 So you asked whether I would support DeSantis or Trump and I hesitated but said I'd support Trump.

00:57:06.000 I'm on record several months ago as saying I would prefer to see another candidate emerge for a variety of reasons that aren't terribly surprising.

00:57:14.000 But when they indicted Trump, I said, you know, this is forcing people like me to become Trump voters, whether we want it to or not, because this is now the issue.

00:57:22.000 If you can do this, if you can corrupt the system like this, the only way to protest against it is to make Trump the president.

00:57:28.000 There's no other way to do it.

00:57:30.000 Are we being pushed into this?

00:57:33.000 Is this a successful ploy by the Biden administration to craft an opponent that it thinks it can beat?

00:57:39.000 They were wrong about that in 2016 as well, but How do we react to that as voters?

00:57:43.000 How do we reason through that?

00:57:44.000 I don't think the same strategy would work.

00:57:46.000 I think they were lucky that everything was locked down and people had to vote by mail.

00:57:50.000 People didn't have sports, people didn't have movies, people didn't have entertainment.

00:57:53.000 The only thing they could do was vote.

00:57:54.000 And so they hyper-focused everything.

00:57:56.000 That will not work again, especially with the horrifying job Joe Biden has done.

00:58:02.000 You know, they're showing all these polls that are like, if it's Ron DeSantis, Biden loses, but if it's Trump, Trump loses.

00:58:07.000 And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it.

00:58:09.000 There's elements of the machine that really love Ron DeSantis.

00:58:12.000 I like Ron DeSantis.

00:58:13.000 I think he does a really great job.

00:58:14.000 But boy, do they hate Donald Trump to the point where they lied about all of the polls.

00:58:18.000 Not to mention, how many people are still secret Trump voters who don't want to admit they're going to vote for Trump?

00:58:24.000 I can tell you this.

00:58:26.000 I know of one celebrity family that publicly is as liberal as liberal can be, and privately voted for Trump twice.

00:58:34.000 Yup.

00:58:34.000 And I can't, I'm not gonna say who they are, it's not my business, but there's tons of these people.

00:58:40.000 And the funny thing is a lot of these celebrities, taxes.

00:58:43.000 Only reason.

00:58:43.000 Legit.

00:58:44.000 Only reason taxes. 0.99

00:58:45.000 They couldn't tell you about the culture war.

00:58:47.000 I was talking to someone and they were like, oh yeah, that's the celebrity guy in that movie.

00:58:50.000 Yeah, he voted for Trump.

00:58:51.000 And the only reason is that was because Trump was gonna lower his taxes.

00:58:54.000 Only thing he cared about.

00:58:55.000 Publicly, he's woke.

00:58:57.000 Publicly, he's on Twitter and like, oh, Trump is so bad, he's like, I better vote for that guy.

00:59:00.000 You know what I'm doing, Joel, is like...

00:59:03.000 Just trying to keep an open mind and watch for the best candidate.

00:59:06.000 Because I think Vivek Ramaswamy is far superior mentally than either Trump or DeSantis.

00:59:11.000 He's a money, almost a billionaire, self-made by like 35 years old.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, he's amazing.

00:59:15.000 Let me throw out another name there.

00:59:18.000 I had an opportunity to see most of the potential contenders.

00:59:20.000 Some of them have already dropped out but last year at a couple of meetings I was at Nikki Haley had an energy when she was on stage that was just different and interesting and she's really struggling in the polls right now and I know that a significant portion of the conservative base doesn't trust her but Does she have a shot?

00:59:37.000 Is there some lane where she can emerge somehow out of this mess? 0.94

00:59:40.000 I imagine the chat is freaking out right now.

00:59:43.000 Good!

00:59:44.000 So what is it?

00:59:45.000 But let's talk about it.

00:59:46.000 Trump in 2024.

00:59:47.000 That's Jeff Walsh.

00:59:48.000 But Nikki Haley is what they're freaking out about.

00:59:51.000 The Republican Party is... Look, the neocons fled to the Democratic Party.

00:59:56.000 They're not coming back.

00:59:57.000 And the Republican Party is where it is now.

00:59:59.000 It is the Trump Party.

01:00:00.000 So you can entertain anybody you want.

01:00:03.000 So if it's a concern that Trump has made, they're like, no, he can't even run.

01:00:06.000 It's illegal.

01:00:07.000 That's in that reality, which it looks like we're headed towards.

01:00:10.000 I mean, unless you say a New York jury is going to let, acquit this guy.

01:00:13.000 Even if they convict him, I think he can run.

01:00:16.000 And I think, you know, for that reason, I think I would vote for Trump just to say, you know, you can't do this to us.

01:00:22.000 I seem to, I don't know a lot about Nikki Haley.

01:00:25.000 I remember, has she been political a long time? 0.95

01:00:29.000 Yeah, I actually met her at a conservative blogging conference.

01:00:31.000 This is way back in 2009.

01:00:34.000 Red State, which was one of the first conservative blogs, had a conference and she was there.

01:00:38.000 So was Ted Cruz, people who didn't hold any kind of real serious public office.

01:00:43.000 I think he was Solicitor General of Texas or something, but she was just running for governor of South Carolina.

01:00:47.000 She came and talked to these bloggers.

01:00:48.000 I met her, got to know her a little bit.

01:00:51.000 I didn't think she was necessarily qualified to be UN ambassador, but Trump put her in there and she did a fantastic job.

01:00:57.000 She's had some good things to say, some things I've been critical of and that sort of thing, but just the energy when she's on stage and having, I'll just put it on the table, having a female candidate is different. 0.99

01:01:07.000 It's different than what we're seeing and so it's compelling for that reason.

01:01:11.000 Again, maybe not compelling enough because she's below 5% in the polls and that sort of thing. 1.00

01:01:14.000 But, you know, are there alternatives?

01:01:16.000 Again, I say this as someone who's also said, if they do this to Trump, there's no other option.

01:01:21.000 You have to resist the system by voting for him.

01:01:23.000 It's not even about the issues anymore.

01:01:25.000 There's only one issue, and it's freedom and justice and the rule of law, and there's only one vote you can take.

01:01:29.000 That's how I feel about it.

01:01:30.000 Let's jump back to the story about Ralph Yarrow, because we did deviate, and let's break this down.

01:01:35.000 We got this story from the Postmillennial.

01:01:36.000 Surprise, surprise, these people are lying again.

01:01:39.000 Washington Post retracts false claim that Ralph Yarrow was killed in Missouri shooting.

01:01:44.000 This is not the first time they've done this, where they've claimed that some story was someone was killed, when it was like, no, they're actually not dead.

01:01:53.000 And this is another one.

01:01:54.000 Why?

01:01:55.000 Well, the story goes out, as the saying goes, the lie travels halfway around the world before the truth can strap on his boots.

01:02:01.000 This story comes out from the Washington Post, where they say that this kid was killed.

01:02:04.000 You get protests, you get anger, you get animosity.

01:02:07.000 They then come back and say, whoops, he's alive, actually.

01:02:11.000 But this is the story they've been pushing in the media, which to me makes almost no sense.

01:02:15.000 Why is this story a national story?

01:02:19.000 Is it sad?

01:02:19.000 Sure.

01:02:21.000 You know, I'm sad when anybody gets shot for something like this.

01:02:24.000 But I'll tell you what, I'll break it down for you simply.

01:02:27.000 I think they're lying.

01:02:28.000 I'll tell you why.

01:02:29.000 The story is, Ralph Yarrow, the black 16-year-old boy who was shot twice after accidentally ringing the doorbell of the wrong home when picking up his brothers, is crying buckets of tears, his mother told CBS News.

01:02:40.000 Full stop.

01:02:41.000 He didn't accidentally ring the doorbell.

01:02:42.000 He intentionally rang the doorbell at the wrong house.

01:02:46.000 So, you see how they're already trying to frame it here?

01:02:49.000 He accidentally rang the doorbell at this wrong house.

01:02:51.000 No, no, he intentionally did it!

01:02:52.000 He intentionally parked in the driveway, got up to the house, went there, and it was just the wrong house.

01:02:56.000 You can say, he accidentally went to this house, but he intentionally rang the doorbell and went...

01:03:02.000 Up to the stairs.

01:03:04.000 I think they've changed the story several times.

01:03:08.000 Let me see if I have the tweet here.

01:03:09.000 Take a look at the original tweet.

01:03:11.000 Twitter preserved the metadata.

01:03:13.000 The headline, Kansas City Teen Shot After Entering Wrong House.

01:03:19.000 And that makes you wonder.

01:03:20.000 Why did they change the headline?

01:03:22.000 Why did they initially report that this kid entered the home?

01:03:26.000 Could it be that they got it wrong?

01:03:29.000 The story is that the man, this guy Lester, shot through the glass screen door, hitting the kid in the head, and I think in the shoulder or upper chest.

01:03:37.000 And that proves, they say, that he needlessly just shot the kid.

01:03:41.000 However, they mention, let me see if Here, let me read this.

01:03:47.000 They say Andrew Lester, the 84-year-old white homeowner who shot Ralph, knows they always include the races, turned himself in Tuesday, etc.

01:03:53.000 Lester claimed to police that he opened fire through the door of his home without saying a single word because he was scared to death of the unarmed teen.

01:03:59.000 Clay County Prosecutor Thompson said Monday that there appears to be a racial component of the case, but he clarified the probable cause statement did not indicate that the case was racially motivated.

01:04:08.000 According to the charging documents, Lester told police after he shot Ralph that it was the last thing he wanted to do, but says he believed he was protecting himself against a physical confrontation, which he would not have been prepared for given his advanced age.

01:04:20.000 Lester pointed to Ralph's size, which he claimed was six feet, and Lester's inability to defend himself as the reasoning behind his actions.

01:04:26.000 The original story, let me actually pull up the archive so you can see how they've manipulated this, said that the teenager Grabbed the door, uh, and was trying to open it.

01:04:36.000 And, uh, Time Magazine, of course, changes the story.

01:04:40.000 So let me, uh, pull up the archive.

01:04:43.000 Pop it on over.

01:04:44.000 And we'll, uh, we'll scroll down to what it originally said.

01:04:47.000 And, uh, oh, this is the original.

01:04:49.000 It says the shooter's not identified.

01:04:51.000 So even then, wow, they don't even have the earliest version of the story.

01:04:56.000 It doesn't have anything in it.

01:04:57.000 This is one of the problems with stealth editing.

01:05:00.000 So let's jump back to the middle one.

01:05:03.000 See if I can find where they wrote that this kid didn't just ring the doorbell, but he actually tried entering the house.

01:05:10.000 So, we'll scroll down.

01:05:12.000 Okay, why was the shooter released?

01:05:15.000 Man, this is the hard thing about how they keep changing the story.

01:05:18.000 You know what I'll do?

01:05:19.000 I'll pull it up on my Twitter.

01:05:20.000 I saw that somewhere.

01:05:21.000 It may have been on your Twitter, but also... But they keep changing the story.

01:05:23.000 This is the problem with stealth editing.

01:05:24.000 It's so annoying.

01:05:25.000 It's not like I'm trying to pull it up.

01:05:26.000 This is all so soon after the incident, and we don't know most of the facts.

01:05:31.000 If we've learned one thing from these kinds of stories, it's you have to wait for all the facts to come out.

01:05:36.000 As sad as this is, what really got me about it today was when the White House started commenting on it and they revealed that the President had called the victim, which is appropriate, you know, if you want to express sympathy and that sort of thing.

01:05:48.000 But Joe Biden told people not too long ago, during the whole gun control debate after Trayvon Martin, Joe Biden told people to shoot through their front door If they wanted someone to go away.

01:06:01.000 This is Joe Biden.

01:06:03.000 I don't know if you can pull it up.

01:06:04.000 I think it was 2013.

01:06:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:06.000 And conservatives made a big deal out of it at the time because it's such ridiculous advice that most reasonable gun owners would know that that's really stupid. 0.98

01:06:15.000 Just to shoot through a door without opening it or whatever. 0.99

01:06:19.000 He said that he gave his wife that advice and that she was told to use the shotgun. 0.95

01:06:23.000 Just shoot through the front door if you're scared.

01:06:25.000 This guy followed Joe Biden's advice.

01:06:27.000 Yep.

01:06:27.000 So I want a correction.

01:06:28.000 I actually had the wrong link.

01:06:29.000 I had the wrong link.

01:06:30.000 But they do change the story, but it was the wrong link.

01:06:33.000 Here's what it says.

01:06:34.000 Excerpts of the prosecutor's probable cause statement posted online reveal that Lester told police he picked up his gun after hearing the doorbell ring while lying down.

01:06:41.000 He opened an interior door and saw a black male approximately six feet tall pulling on the exterior door of his house.

01:06:48.000 Believing it was a break-in attempt, he fired twice after opening the door.

01:06:51.000 Man, I have an anecdotal experience kind of like this.

01:06:54.000 I went to my childhood friend's house four years ago, hadn't seen his parents in a couple decades, 15 years, and they were like my second parents growing up.

01:07:03.000 And I went and I knocked, he opened the door, and I was like, hey!

01:07:07.000 And he was like, who are you?

01:07:09.000 And I started to hug him and he got back and was like, who are you?

01:07:12.000 And I was like, it's Ian.

01:07:14.000 And he went, oh!

01:07:16.000 But there was a moment where, if he was this 84 year old, if he was older, 84 year old man, maybe he's been drinking, his mind isn't where it used to be.

01:07:24.000 Do you wait for them to let you in every time?

01:07:28.000 This sounds like it was a big accident.

01:07:30.000 It sounds like this kid went to the wrong house.

01:07:32.000 It's not like he did nothing wrong.

01:07:33.000 But they're turning into this Black Lives Matter racist thing when the story is, yo, you go to an old man's house, And then you try opening the door and gaining entrance to his house.

01:07:46.000 I don't know about Missouri, but in many states, people have the legal right to use lethal force to stop you from committing a burglary.

01:07:51.000 Yes, burglary is not about intention, I don't think.

01:07:54.000 Burglary is just about the act of entering, isn't it?

01:07:56.000 I mean, if you're not un- Burglary is crossing a property barrier.

01:08:00.000 So if that's the case, this kid was burglarizing that guy's house.

01:08:04.000 Well, in the mind of the homeowner.

01:08:06.000 No, factually.

01:08:07.000 If he grabbed the handle and started to open it.

01:08:08.000 But the guy opened the door, so maybe it seemed like an invitation.

01:08:11.000 I mean, this is sketchy, and the kid's not going to get charged with burglary, I would doubt.

01:08:15.000 No, of course not.

01:08:16.000 But this is the reality.

01:08:17.000 I don't think there is... The kid's not going to get charged.

01:08:21.000 There's no criminal burglary.

01:08:23.000 But I think, in terms of the self-defense claim, there is an element of burglary.

01:08:28.000 People think burglary means theft.

01:08:29.000 It doesn't.

01:08:30.000 It means, like, crossing a barrier onto someone's property.

01:08:34.000 So I learned this the hard way.

01:08:35.000 If you have no signs on your property, anyone's allowed to enter your property.

01:08:40.000 They can't walk up to your house and cross a barrier, though.

01:08:43.000 However, if the screen, like, let's say the door's open, they can walk in your house.

01:08:46.000 They're legally allowed to.

01:08:48.000 And all you can do is tell them to leave.

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.000 If your front door's open and no signs, people can just walk in?

01:08:53.000 People are legally allowed to walk into your home if the door's unlocked.

01:08:56.000 Clarified.

01:08:56.000 Yep.

01:08:57.000 So if... Unlocked or open?

01:08:59.000 Unlocked.

01:09:00.000 Unlocked.

01:09:00.000 Oh, unlocked.

01:09:01.000 Unlocked.

01:09:02.000 Yep.

01:09:02.000 We dealt with this one personally.

01:09:06.000 When we had someone come onto this property.

01:09:09.000 Happened more than once.

01:09:10.000 The police were like, okay.

01:09:14.000 Entering the house is potentially burglary in the lowest degree.

01:09:19.000 It's a misdemeanor and here's what you get because you're not supposed to enter someone's house like that.

01:09:24.000 However, they still have an argument over why they think they were entitled to enter the house.

01:09:29.000 If someone says there was no intent, it was an accident, I went to the wrong house, you're not going to get criminally charged.

01:09:34.000 So I'm not saying anyone can just walk in any house they want.

01:09:37.000 If a kid accidentally walks in the wrong house, there's no criminal charges.

01:09:41.000 Nothing happened.

01:09:42.000 If you put up a sign that says no trespassing, now they've trespassed when they walk past it.

01:09:48.000 Now you can have them trespass, which is a slap on the wrist, and the police will remove them.

01:09:52.000 If you take the thinnest of string and wrap it around your front yard and someone steps over it, they've now committed burglary.

01:10:03.000 That simple.

01:10:04.000 It's the craziest thing.

01:10:05.000 Well, the other interesting thing about this is what they didn't charge.

01:10:07.000 I heard the family's attorney expressing concern, maybe outrage, that the prosecutors hadn't charged the homeowner with attempted murder and they had just gone for these other felonies that are short of that.

01:10:21.000 And I think that's because the police and the prosecution know that the homeowner probably didn't have that intent.

01:10:28.000 Attempted murder requires intent to kill and what the family attorney wanted to see was some kind of racial motivation.

01:10:37.000 That's what the activists want to see.

01:10:39.000 They want to see some kind of criminal intent, some criminal mindset.

01:10:42.000 And I think that the authorities know that they don't have that.

01:10:46.000 And I think it's probably closer to what you're saying, which is an accident where maybe the homeowner wasn't legally entitled to use lethal force.

01:10:53.000 I think he was.

01:10:55.000 That's what they're going to fight out.

01:10:56.000 And maybe they're just charging him so they can start some kind of investigation and satisfy the public without people burning down Kansas City or whatever.

01:11:02.000 But look, This is all happening in the shadow of a crime wave that's happening not just there but throughout the country where people are attacked in their homes and in LA we just had our mayor propose hiring a thousand new cops.

01:11:20.000 That's because Eric Garcetti, her predecessor, bowed to the Black Lives Matter movement and cut 10% of the police budget and then there's a crime wave in Los Angeles and they wonder why.

01:11:28.000 Right.

01:11:29.000 And I don't know what is in the mind of this homeowner nor does the family attorney of the victim but certainly there are a lot of people who are living very scared right now and that has to play into some of this.

01:11:41.000 I mean there's got to be A certain amount of tension.

01:11:45.000 And again, we don't know the motivations.

01:11:47.000 We can't read minds.

01:11:48.000 But what we're being told to do is to read minds.

01:11:50.000 What we're being told to do is imagine that this homeowner had some kind of racial bias.

01:11:54.000 And that's why people get set on edge about this stuff instead of just waiting and hearing and listening to the facts.

01:11:59.000 And look, I think it's okay that the president called.

01:12:02.000 What about the victims he doesn't call?

01:12:03.000 There are a lot of victims.

01:12:03.000 What about Nashville?

01:12:04.000 Did he call them?

01:12:05.000 No.

01:12:05.000 I think Jill Biden visited a vigil for him.

01:12:08.000 I was looking that up, but I don't know about Joe.

01:12:11.000 Well, you know, the president hasn't been to East Palestine.

01:12:14.000 Boom, right here.

01:12:16.000 Let me read this section for you.

01:12:17.000 This is Missouri, Stand Your Ground Law, and it says, you can use physical force to defend yourself, yadda yadda.

01:12:25.000 Section three, such force is used against a person who unlawfully enters, remains after unlawfully entering, or attempts to unlawfully enter private property that is owned or leased by an individual or is occupied by an individual who has been given specific authority by the property owner to occupy the property, claiming a justification of using protective force under this section.

01:12:45.000 A person does not have a duty to retreat from a dwelling, etc.

01:12:48.000 So, simply put, it says, a person shall not use deadly force upon another person unless the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this... Under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section, unless...

01:13:04.000 And again, such force is used against a person who unlawfully enters, remains after unlawfully entering, or attempts to unlawfully enter private property.

01:13:14.000 End of story.

01:13:16.000 If I could put on my law school hat, the legal question here is going to be reasonableness.

01:13:22.000 So you see the word reasonably appearing several times in that.

01:13:26.000 The question is going to be, was the homeowner acting reasonably?

01:13:29.000 Yes.

01:13:30.000 And you may think so.

01:13:31.000 The question also then becomes, is it the mind of a reasonable average person or the mind of a reasonable 84-year-old who lives alone and may have dementia and that sort of thing?

01:13:40.000 Because if it's the latter... And that's what I mean.

01:13:43.000 Right, right.

01:13:44.000 So it becomes a little bit different, and that's certainly why they didn't go for attempted murder, because... I think they're going to lose completely.

01:13:53.000 Do you think 84-year-olds with dementia should have guns?

01:13:56.000 Because they take their license away sometimes.

01:13:58.000 I mean, he has to be tested before you could say that he's...

01:14:01.000 Right, we're just speculating.

01:14:02.000 No one's saying he has dementia.

01:14:03.000 But that's a red flag law, and I think if you've got a problem with Second Amendment, you've got to amend it before you can take someone's guns away, even if they are 84.

01:14:10.000 Do you think that we should consider... No.

01:14:14.000 Okay.

01:14:14.000 No, I think... I'm not surprised you said that.

01:14:16.000 Well, I mean, if anybody needs a gun to defend themselves, it's someone who's older. 0.99

01:14:19.000 Yeah, that's totally true.

01:14:20.000 I mean, like, look, I'm a strapping young lad, right?

01:14:22.000 I can defend myself better than an 84-year-old man. 0.99

01:14:25.000 I'm not saying I'm gonna go, you know, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu on anybody, but I can run, I can jump, I can throw a punch.

01:14:29.000 Old man ain't gonna be doing any of that stuff.

01:14:31.000 He needs, he or she, they need something to protect themselves.

01:14:35.000 Now, here's what I think.

01:14:36.000 I think it's a tragic story.

01:14:38.000 But you're an 84-year-old man, and you see someone grab the door and try to come in.

01:14:43.000 Now they're trying to illegally enter your property.

01:14:45.000 Attempted illegal entrance.

01:14:47.000 I mean, look.

01:14:48.000 When I first heard the story and they claimed that this kid rang the doorbell and you shot him, I'm like, that makes no sense at all!

01:14:54.000 Oh, and I got the quote, Joel, that you were mentioning earlier from Joe Biden.

01:14:58.000 This is from 2013.

01:15:00.000 Joe told Field and Stream magazine, quote, if you want to keep someone away from your house, Joe Biden said, just fire the shotgun through the door. 0.88

01:15:08.000 I hate him so much. 1.00

01:15:09.000 He is so stupid. 1.00

01:15:10.000 This guy should cite that in his defense. 1.00

01:15:13.000 Yeah.

01:15:13.000 I hope his lawyers use it and say, look, Joe Biden said... But, you know, look, the reality is the left right now is saying he rang the doorbell and the guy shot him through the door.

01:15:22.000 And it's like, well, where do you get that account from?

01:15:25.000 Where did that statement come from?

01:15:28.000 I got to be honest, it didn't come from the kid who was in the hospital unconscious because he was shot in the head.

01:15:32.000 It came from like... It came from the homeowner.

01:15:34.000 I heard it, bro.

01:15:35.000 And they then twisted his words.

01:15:37.000 They omitted the part where he said, I saw this young man grabbing the door to open it and enter my property.

01:15:45.000 The kid thought he was going to his friend's house. 0.99

01:15:48.000 And that sucks, man. 0.88

01:15:49.000 But he wouldn't go to the wrong friend's house. 0.99

01:15:51.000 He was going somewhere.

01:15:52.000 He was picking up his little brothers.

01:15:55.000 Now, here's the issue.

01:15:56.000 If this guy does get convicted, I will tell you what's going to happen.

01:16:01.000 Every single burglary and home invasion is going to be a oops, wrong house.

01:16:05.000 Every single one.

01:16:05.000 Yeah, I don't think he should get convicted for this because the guy was illegally attempting to enter his property.

01:16:10.000 That's right, he was.

01:16:10.000 Neither of them should get in trouble for this.

01:16:12.000 I wonder if there will be, like, riots and stuff like that.

01:16:15.000 There are already protests.

01:16:16.000 Yeah, protests, but I wonder if there will be, like, riots and stuff.

01:16:18.000 Definitely.

01:16:19.000 You know, there was a much clearer case.

01:16:20.000 They're rioting for nothing in Chicago right now.

01:16:22.000 Yeah, it's getting to that time of year, man.

01:16:24.000 Riot season.

01:16:26.000 You guys remember the Ahmaud Arbery case where the jogger was shot?

01:16:29.000 Of course.

01:16:30.000 Excuse me, jogger? 0.96

01:16:31.000 The felony burglary suspect, you mean.

01:16:34.000 That's not a joke, that's a fact.

01:16:37.000 You know, the controversy there was a lot lower.

01:16:40.000 There weren't protests right away, and there was more of a consensus that what happened to him shouldn't have happened, that he was chased down.

01:16:49.000 And I thought that what happened there was interesting because the family attorney didn't take the road of encouraging protests.

01:16:55.000 They went to law enforcement, they worked with law enforcement, they didn't try to make a big national issue out of it.

01:17:01.000 And that attorney also, interestingly, also went to the Trump White House and worked with Trump on some of the criminal justice issues and that kind of thing.

01:17:08.000 And it wasn't, rightly or wrongly, whatever you think of the verdict, it wasn't a case that divided Americans.

01:17:14.000 It wasn't a case that was used by the movement, even though the Black Lives Movement existed.

01:17:18.000 It didn't become this divisive issue.

01:17:22.000 But that's because conservatives are feckless. 0.90

01:17:25.000 That story was clear-cut wrong.

01:17:27.000 And it was funny that after the Kyle Rittenhouse case, you got a bunch of conservatives coming out being like, see, the Ahmaud Arbery case proves that conservatives aren't racist, despite the fact they knew nothing about the case.

01:17:37.000 The dude wasn't a jogger.

01:17:39.000 The prosecution and the defense never claimed he was jogging.

01:17:42.000 And the argument actually was that, well, most people believed he was the guy on camera breaking into those homes.

01:17:48.000 And so the criminal case became, did the McMichaels have the legal right to commit a citizen's arrest?

01:17:56.000 And the question to the jury was, do they need to be witnesses to the crime or not?

01:18:02.000 And the jury decided, you must be a witness, therefore, the citizen's arrest was unlawful, therefore, the death resulting from citizen's arrest is criminal.

01:18:12.000 The fact that the guy who simply filmed it got the rest of his life in prison proves that it was a complete sham of a trial and a criminal case.

01:18:20.000 But the fact that it didn't divide the nation, to me, just proves that conservatives give up really easily.

01:18:26.000 Or that they take their points whenever they can, and they're not actually in this for the real long haul.

01:18:31.000 I think a lot of the media knowledge about that case wasn't unveiled for me until after it was over.

01:18:37.000 I didn't really learn about the intricacies until, well, until after McMichaels was in jail, unfortunately.

01:18:43.000 And that's the issue.

01:18:44.000 Conservatives didn't pay attention, did not care.

01:18:46.000 It wasn't broadcast on... It was.

01:18:48.000 It was live.

01:18:49.000 Yeah, you could watch the trial live.

01:18:50.000 What I mean is it wasn't covered at great length by the media, right or left, the way that the Rittenhouse trial was covered.

01:18:59.000 It was a quiet neighborhood.

01:19:01.000 I'm sorry.

01:19:02.000 It's not true.

01:19:03.000 CBS, ABC, they were running the show live.

01:19:06.000 It was covered as extensively?

01:19:08.000 And the right ignored the whole thing.

01:19:10.000 And then once these guys got convicted, a bunch of conservatives were like, see, it was the right call.

01:19:15.000 And I think even Tulsi Gabbard came out and was praising the conviction.

01:19:18.000 And I'm like, Something doesn't seem right about this.

01:19:21.000 Like, why did all of these people just come out and immediately side against these guys without knowing anything happened?

01:19:27.000 I'm not saying what they did was a good thing.

01:19:29.000 They were told by the police not to pursue Ahmaud Arbery.

01:19:32.000 But this idea that when the Black Lives Matter activists claimed a guy was jogging and was hunted down by white supremacists and lynched was a complete and total lie.

01:19:42.000 And I'll say it.

01:19:43.000 You can throw away all the facts of that case and just say this.

01:19:46.000 A guy got in his car.

01:19:48.000 Saw the McMichaels driving their car to chase after him, so he picked up his phone and filmed it.

01:19:53.000 They put that man in prison for the rest of his life.

01:19:56.000 I cannot even believe that that guy went to jail.

01:19:58.000 And they did it because, in my opinion, he embarrassed them.

01:20:02.000 Here's what I think happened.

01:20:05.000 The story died.

01:20:06.000 Ahmaud Arbery dies.

01:20:07.000 And the McMichaels say self-defense.

01:20:09.000 The police say, okay, this guy was the felony burglary suspect.

01:20:13.000 These guys did live there.

01:20:15.000 That's what they assume happened.

01:20:17.000 The guy driving his car apparently was tired of getting crapped all over because they were saying that they chased him down or whatever, so he goes, I've got the video and I'm gonna release it.

01:20:26.000 So I think what happened was his lawyer gave it to a radio host, who then put it online, which ignited Black Lives Matter anger. 1.00

01:20:34.000 I think then the DA said, you stupid mother... 1.00

01:20:38.000 I'm gonna make you pay for doing this to me. 1.00

01:20:39.000 What's that guy's name?

01:20:41.000 Ryan something.

01:20:42.000 You can look it up.

01:20:42.000 I forgot his name.

01:20:43.000 I think they did this because they were punishing this guy for smearing them in the national headlines, and it was just corruption.

01:20:51.000 But there you go.

01:20:52.000 I mean, even to this day, they call that guy a jogger.

01:20:55.000 It's like, oh yeah, 20 miles from his house, you know, in a neighborhood that's seeing a string of burglaries.

01:21:00.000 And there's video footage from one of the houses that was broken into, which appears to show Ahmaud Arbery illegally entering, burglarizing the house.

01:21:07.000 And then the media narrative is he was jogging.

01:21:09.000 So, you know.

01:21:10.000 William Bryan.

01:21:11.000 Was that his name?

01:21:12.000 52, accused of joining Gregory McMichael, yeah.

01:21:15.000 As they chased down Arbery.

01:21:16.000 He wasn't with them.

01:21:17.000 He simply got in his car and started filming.

01:21:19.000 And they said, you know what?

01:21:20.000 We're gonna put you in prison for the rest of your life for filming this.

01:21:23.000 That's a lesson to everybody.

01:21:24.000 Roddy Bryan.

01:21:26.000 Roddy's his nickname.

01:21:27.000 And it's funny when, like, you look at their faces in the trial when they're found guilty.

01:21:31.000 They're, like, shocked, how could this have happened?

01:21:33.000 And that dude, if he just did not release the footage, it was, it was self-defense.

01:21:39.000 The, uh, Ahmaud Arbery runs up to the McMichaels, attacks him, they fight over the shotgun, and then he gets, he gets shot.

01:21:45.000 And it's like, I wish it didn't happen. 0.98

01:21:47.000 I mean, it sucks. 0.97

01:21:48.000 And there's a good argument to be made. 0.98

01:21:50.000 If I was Ahmaud Arbery and I had a car behind me and I had a car in front of me, I might

01:21:54.000 think fight or flight too.

01:21:55.000 So I can understand that. 0.97

01:21:57.000 But this idea that he was some innocent jogger is just ridiculous. 0.95

01:22:00.000 And I, there you go.

01:22:02.000 But the funny thing is, the narrative is going to be the narrative.

01:22:07.000 If conservatives aren't paying attention, don't know anything about the case, they're just going to say whatever the left said.

01:22:11.000 Because even talking about Ralph Yarle is entertaining the left's decision to make this the national story instead of that white woman who got chokeslammed by a mob of black teenagers in Chicago.

01:22:22.000 But if talking about the Ralph Yarle case makes it so that neither of these people are charged and Ralph survives and maybe the two of them can even make amends or something, that would be Fantastic.

01:22:33.000 That would be the outcome I'd like to see.

01:22:35.000 And the outcome I want to see in the long run is we set the narrative, and we set the tone, and we decide what stories need to get national prominence.

01:22:43.000 And I hope we get to that point, so long as we keep doing shows like this, and it gets to the point where New York Times or CNN can say, take a look at this instance of a shooting that happens all the time, but we decided to highlight on racial grounds. 0.70

01:22:55.000 And then everyone just says, I'm not interested in talking about that.

01:22:58.000 For the time being, we may be prominent in media, but we're not the corporate press, and we're not as big as, say, CNN, despite the fact their ratings are in the gutter.

01:23:06.000 YouTube puts them on the front page.

01:23:07.000 So it's our job to debunk their lies.

01:23:10.000 Hopefully, it will be the job of some other young upstart to debunk our mistakes and errors in the future, because we will be setting the narrative.

01:23:16.000 I hear that you're listening.

01:23:17.000 What's your job?

01:23:18.000 Well, I think if I can just shift slightly here to something I mentioned to you before, but The job that this show does, I think, in terms of providing free speech, as much free speech as we're allowed to have, I suppose, is really, really important.

01:23:32.000 And the Kanye West show, I think, was a great moment in journalism because rather than following the herd of the mainstream media and boycotting him and calling for him to be shunned, you allowed him an opportunity to defend himself and he walked away.

01:23:47.000 Whether that was real or not, what we saw as viewers was a debate that was fair, questions that were fair, free speech, and he couldn't handle it, and he left.

01:23:59.000 And that did more to debunk what he was saying than Ari Emanuel in Hollywood organizing boycotts, not just of Hollywood people in his industry, but every industry, thereby Mistakenly giving life to the conspiracy theory that Kanye West was spinning.

01:24:15.000 So I thought what you did was great, and I think that's an example for the young upstarts to follow.

01:24:21.000 You don't win by shutting other people down.

01:24:23.000 You win by opening debate, challenging people, and you weren't even, you know... And especially not Kanye West.

01:24:29.000 The thing with him, the boycotts were actually making people double down on their support of him.

01:24:34.000 You know, they say that the best way to get rid of a bad idea is to put a spotlight on it so that everyone can see how bad it is.

01:24:41.000 And that's the big problem with censorship online.

01:24:43.000 It's got it backwards.

01:24:43.000 It's trying to hide the bad ideas so that they're going to percolate, grow, and the pressure will build.

01:24:47.000 But if you let them come out in an environment where they can be communicated about, not just a one-sided, you know, guy on a camera yelling, but like in a round table of people that are listening, man, it changes the world.

01:24:58.000 The thing about Ye, he's got a lot of people who just follow him and are going to go along with what he says because he's A billionaire, successful musician, cultural icon.

01:25:06.000 If you just shut him down, all you're doing is telling his core fans, the only information you can get is from him.

01:25:12.000 You need to have him sit down and just talk about these ideas, because then those people are going to be listening to him say those ideas and go, I don't know if that makes sense.

01:25:19.000 You know, you can still like Ye and be like, I don't know if what he said made sense, but if he's never challenged because you refuse to challenge him, well then he's going to win.

01:25:26.000 And we did a show over the weekend.

01:25:27.000 I don't know if you guys saw it.

01:25:29.000 We did a Timcast IRL and then Mines on Friday at the Vulcan Gas Company and then Mines did an event on Saturday.

01:25:36.000 Destiny was on.

01:25:37.000 Stephen Bonnell had been on the show a couple times and he was there.

01:25:42.000 Challenging, challenging, challenging, even maybe even saying bad ideas.

01:25:46.000 I don't know, not saying you're saying, but I'd like to review the tape.

01:25:49.000 But Alex Jones came out, Jack Posobiec was there, Libby Emmons was there.

01:25:53.000 We had a fantastic, huge, rotating group of people coming in and out.

01:25:56.000 And it was really nice to let ideas show themselves for what they are, rather than demonizing the people that happen to be the ones that have them at that moment.

01:26:08.000 I digress.

01:26:09.000 Check out the video if you haven't seen it.

01:26:10.000 It's on Stephen's Rumble channel.

01:26:12.000 So we see that video of that woman being chokeslammed, and it's got I think like 12 or 13 million views, so clearly it matters to people and it's being shared like crazy, but where's the New York Times headlines?

01:26:23.000 I think it's because the video's so blurry.

01:26:26.000 I couldn't really tell what was going on when I saw it.

01:26:28.000 Do you really think that it's just the blurriness-wise and not being shared?

01:26:32.000 I really think it's probably ideological from the New York Times.

01:26:35.000 It could be, but what they want is clicks.

01:26:37.000 So if it's a video of a hand going up and you see her eyes and the struggle, that's going to get clicks.

01:26:42.000 And I think that would get a lot of attention.

01:26:43.000 I think that the video is dramatic enough to get clicks because it has millions.

01:26:48.000 Tim just said it has millions.

01:26:49.000 I really do think that it's ideological.

01:26:52.000 It's clear what's happening in the video too.

01:26:54.000 Yeah.

01:26:54.000 She's there, you can see her there, and then it's just pummeling from the top.

01:26:59.000 Yeah, I think she... People are arguing that they pulled her away, and then beat the other guy, but I'm like, you don't know that.

01:27:04.000 You can say they beat the other guy, too.

01:27:06.000 But all I see is she gets chokeslammed to the ground, and then they start wailing. 0.87

01:27:11.000 You can literally see it.

01:27:13.000 You can't see her getting hit, but you can't see her going anywhere.

01:27:16.000 Like, she doesn't get up and walk away, you just see her get chokeslammed, and then they're pounding on someone on the ground.

01:27:19.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

01:27:21.000 You see her there, and then you don't see her there, and then you see people, you know, punching towards the ground.

01:27:25.000 But you do see them beating a guy.

01:27:26.000 They are beating a guy.

01:27:27.000 You can see the guy getting beat.

01:27:27.000 Correct, yes.

01:27:28.000 Did she survive?

01:27:29.000 Well, yeah.

01:27:30.000 Okay.

01:27:30.000 So, there's a question I have about this also, which is, were they attacked or targeted because the guy she was with is black as well?

01:27:40.000 Was it an interracial couple that was targeted by the mob?

01:27:43.000 Or was it a gang thing?

01:27:44.000 It was personal.

01:27:45.000 She tried to get in between a mob and a victim. 1.00

01:27:47.000 She knew who the guy was and it looked more so like she just said like hey guys stop or something like that

01:27:51.000 And then they grab her and she tried to get in between a mob and a victim. That is a well

01:27:56.000 She didn't there wasn't a whole lot of places she could go I don't know. We should try and figure out who this lady 1.00

01:28:01.000 was and ask her what happened. Yeah, she was like Let her tell the story.

01:28:04.000 I just saw a tweet earlier.

01:28:06.000 Someone, they are speaking out.

01:28:08.000 I don't have any information about it right now.

01:28:10.000 The woman is speaking out?

01:28:11.000 The woman and the people that were attacked have been identified and they have been speaking out.

01:28:16.000 They were on Fox today.

01:28:17.000 I think Fox had the exclusive and she said they were looking for somewhere to eat.

01:28:21.000 Oh, they were together?

01:28:22.000 I don't know if they're dating.

01:28:24.000 They're describing the headline as a couple.

01:28:25.000 I guess that's where I got that idea.

01:28:26.000 Want to pull that up?

01:28:28.000 What's the headline?

01:28:29.000 It's, mob randomly attacks couple walking in Chicago.

01:28:32.000 They said they were going to kill us.

01:28:36.000 And they say they were randomly attacked.

01:28:37.000 Oh, you're right.

01:28:37.000 Yeah.

01:28:38.000 You're completely correct.

01:28:39.000 It is an interracial... Let's roll with this. 1.00

01:28:40.000 We'll cover the story.

01:28:42.000 Mob randomly attacks couple walking in Chicago.

01:28:44.000 They said they were going to kill us.

01:28:45.000 So it quite literally is an interracial couple apparently minding their own business when they were violently attacked by a mob.

01:28:53.000 They say they were randomly attacked walking in downtown Chicago amid the teen takeover.

01:28:57.000 Ashley and DJ said on Tuesday they had been looking for a spot to get food set at night when they found themselves trying to navigate a large crowd.

01:29:03.000 People in the crowd pushed the couple, and when DJ stood up to them, a fight- fighting broke out.

01:29:08.000 As soon as they pushed me, I told DJ, I said, they just shoved me, and he asked them, he was like, yo, don't shove her.

01:29:13.000 Who shoved her? 1.00

01:29:14.000 And as soon as he said that, everything went crazy. 0.72

01:29:16.000 They said they were going to kill us.

01:29:18.000 The mob pushed Ashley to the ground and immediately turned on DJ to beat him.

01:29:22.000 They robbed the couple, stealing their shoes, phones, and a pair of glasses, an Apple Watch, and a hat.

01:29:26.000 Video of the attack during the violent teen takeover of the city went viral.

01:29:29.000 Oh, okay. 0.93

01:29:30.000 So it was a mob of young black teenagers mercilessly beating an interracial couple. 0.75

01:29:35.000 What is this teen takeover thing? 0.64

01:29:38.000 Like four consecutive nights of large groups of teenagers in Chicago just rampaging through the city, setting fires and smashing windows and attacking people.

01:29:45.000 I think they tried breaking into the Art Institute and got shot.

01:29:47.000 Yeah.

01:29:48.000 A couple kids got shot.

01:29:49.000 I don't know about getting shot, but they were trying to break into the Art Institute and there were shots fired.

01:29:53.000 A couple kids did get shot.

01:29:54.000 Yeah.

01:29:54.000 Two of them.

01:29:55.000 And I thought it was because they were trying to break in.

01:29:56.000 I'm not sure.

01:29:58.000 Well, you don't want teenagers controlling your society, I'll tell you that.

01:30:03.000 Well, thanks Ian.

01:30:04.000 Yeah.

01:30:04.000 You know, this is perhaps a racially motivated attack.

01:30:09.000 It's not been described that way, but... Oh no, it definitely is.

01:30:12.000 So to go to your point about the double standard, we don't know what the motivations were in Kansas City, but there's an assumption it had to be racial.

01:30:20.000 We have pretty good evidence it might have been racial in Chicago, but we don't talk about that.

01:30:24.000 Well, it's clearly.

01:30:25.000 We can talk about it, but it's okay.

01:30:28.000 Yeah, it was clearly a racist mob attacking this interracial couple because, you know.

01:30:32.000 You can talk about it, but just don't talk about it too much because then you're a racist and it's okay.

01:30:37.000 The thing that offended me the most about what the mayor-elect said And others said was that these kids had no other choice for entertainment on a weekend because they come from deprived backgrounds and they are impoverished or whatever, which is... No opportunities.

01:30:53.000 No opportunities, right, for recreation.

01:30:54.000 I guess the parks were closed or something.

01:30:57.000 I mean, it's... Chicago has so much to do and these kids have phones and they have cars and, you know, maybe they're...

01:31:05.000 They have some other frustrations and challenges, but it's awful to hear an excuse like that. 0.99

01:31:10.000 It is exhausting to hear such obvious bullshit shoved down your throat all the time. 0.95

01:31:18.000 To hear comments like that, it is just, I can't describe it as anything other than just exhausting. 0.99

01:31:26.000 They don't have anything to do, so they have to ransack the city. 0.99

01:31:32.000 Give me a goddamn break. 0.98

01:31:34.000 The likelihood that these people voted for this is, like, 99%. 0.99

01:31:37.000 This is not a young conservative couple, sorry.

01:31:41.000 They probably either don't vote or vote Democrat, so I just, like, yeah, we don't want violent mobs to break out, but I'm torn, right?

01:31:50.000 Like, if you voted for the government to, I don't know, Give you a free car.

01:31:58.000 And then the government gave you a free car.

01:32:00.000 I'd be like, oh, wow, look at that.

01:32:01.000 You know, you voted and got a car.

01:32:02.000 Like, who's paying for it?

01:32:02.000 I have questions about, like, where it's coming from.

01:32:04.000 If you voted for the government to take your paycheck from you, and then they did, I'd be like, well, congratulations.

01:32:09.000 Like, you asked them to do it and they did.

01:32:10.000 You know, it's like if I ask a guy to take the garbage out and he does it, Why would I be upset about it? I don't like the metaphor of

01:32:15.000 I voted for them and they're perpetuating the the violence so I'm responsible because I

01:32:20.000 voted for you voted for Obama. I voted for Obama and then I realized it was a mistake and then I

01:32:24.000 didn't vote for him. With your argument they'd be like well you're it's because of you that 2008 to

01:32:28.000 12 happened. Yeah you're responsible.

01:32:30.000 That's a fact it is. 1.00

01:32:32.000 You killed those kids. 1.00

01:32:33.000 Like, that's what they said. 1.00

01:32:33.000 Yes, my support for Barack Obama and what pissed me off and made me so extremely angry with Democrats was that, yes, I gave Obama the support he needed to fucking murder children. 1.00

01:32:44.000 But you didn't. 0.99

01:32:44.000 And that pisses me off. 0.99

01:32:45.000 Yes, I did.

01:32:46.000 Technically, yeah.

01:32:47.000 Yes, I did.

01:32:47.000 But you didn't do that with that intention.

01:32:49.000 Of course not.

01:32:49.000 It doesn't matter.

01:32:50.000 If I give someone a brick and then they say, hey, give me that brick.

01:32:53.000 I say, okay, and they start hitting someone.

01:32:54.000 I'm going to be like, yo, I shouldn't have given them that brick.

01:32:56.000 You gave them the authority.

01:32:57.000 You gave me authority, but any president would have had that authority.

01:32:59.000 That's the reason that I feel terrible about voting for Bush because of the war in Iraq.

01:33:04.000 Like that's why people like change their votes.

01:33:07.000 They're like, they vote for someone because they're hoping for something. 1.00

01:33:10.000 The person they voted for gives them a pile of shit. 1.00

01:33:13.000 Cause that's what they do. 1.00

01:33:14.000 And then people are like, well, I don't want to vote for them anymore.

01:33:16.000 That's, that's just the normal thing that people, that's why people are so sick of the government. 0.96

01:33:21.000 After that, I didn't vote in 2012 or 2016 because I was like, I don't want to be responsible for what these cocksuckers do. 1.00

01:33:29.000 And then Donald Trump did a bunch of really great things with the economy and really great things with foreign policy to the point where I said, this guy needs another term.

01:33:36.000 I mean, the foreign policy stuff was so good that I was finally like, okay, this guy actually did these things.

01:33:41.000 He also set up a clandestine drone network where he gave his generals authority to bomb whoever they want in secret.

01:33:47.000 That's right, but I look at what he did as he was working more to pull the U.S.

01:33:52.000 out of what other people started, and I can certainly recognize with that comes the collateral damage that George W. Bush created.

01:33:59.000 I don't even necessarily want to blame Barack Obama for starting the wars that George W. Bush started.

01:34:05.000 I'm with you there.

01:34:05.000 But he did sign off on these things.

01:34:07.000 Donald Trump did as well, and I think he should be held responsible.

01:34:10.000 However, the reason I like what Donald Trump was doing was that he was actively pulling it all back.

01:34:14.000 Can I ask you something about the foreign policy issues?

01:34:17.000 Because you were there Documenting the Occupy Wall Street movement.

01:34:21.000 The anti-war movement was a big part of the motivation for Obama's victory in 2008.

01:34:26.000 Whether he said so explicitly or not, people had the idea this guy was going to get us out of Bush's wars and that kind of thing.

01:34:31.000 Along comes Donald Trump, doesn't go to war, four years of peace, Putin doesn't invade anybody, and... Abraham Accords.

01:34:38.000 Abraham Accords.

01:34:39.000 And the left-brain negotiations.

01:34:40.000 Nobody gives him credit.

01:34:41.000 I mean, I shouldn't say nobody, there's Glenn Greenwald, there's a few other people.

01:34:44.000 Crushing ISIS.

01:34:45.000 There are a few other people who give him credit, but the left, for whom this was the issue, or so I thought, decided that they had to get rid of Trump, and now we've got Biden risking on every front.

01:34:57.000 Yeah, pro-war as they come. 0.98

01:34:58.000 So, I mean, what happens to the anti-war movement?

01:35:01.000 Where is the left with this?

01:35:02.000 Did they just forget about it?

01:35:03.000 Do people mumble and walk away?

01:35:05.000 What happens?

01:35:06.000 Half of them are faking it.

01:35:08.000 I'm part of that movement.

01:35:08.000 I feel like it is unstoppable, that the military-industrial complex controls our country, and that we're just in a military autocracy.

01:35:18.000 And stop.

01:35:19.000 Full stop.

01:35:20.000 I don't know what else to do.

01:35:21.000 I used to dismiss that view, but when I see Just observing the FBI interference and the intel leaks and the Russia collusion plot and how there was the Hunter Biden Russian disinformation letter and this collusion between elements of our intelligence community and the Democratic Party.

01:35:39.000 I can't dismiss that anymore.

01:35:41.000 I feel like, well, we have this democracy, but it's as much as they allow us to have.

01:35:45.000 And you can't elect the wrong candidate.

01:35:46.000 Otherwise, as Chuck Schumer warned, they will get at you a hundred different ways and just pull it out from under you, which is what they did.

01:35:54.000 But how do you look at that, if you're on the left, how do you look at that and say, wait a minute, I don't like Trump and I can even think he's a racist, but I can't go along with what they're doing to our country.

01:36:03.000 The left doesn't have principles.

01:36:05.000 There is no moral framework that exists among the left.

01:36:09.000 In fact, I think what makes the left distinct is a clear lack of a moral framework.

01:36:14.000 That's it.

01:36:14.000 But I have friends and relatives who are leftists and they believe these things with good intentions.

01:36:18.000 They believe they have a moral framework.

01:36:20.000 I can't say to them, well, you disagree with me because you have no morals.

01:36:23.000 But they don't.

01:36:24.000 Right?

01:36:24.000 So someone's arguments are different from what they actually do.

01:36:27.000 So like, they have no legitimate reason for supporting war with Ukraine.

01:36:31.000 None.

01:36:32.000 There's no moral basis for that.

01:36:34.000 Well, it's the fear that he's going to go from country to country to country, and this is the first one, like Hitler went into Poland. 0.74

01:36:40.000 But there's no... Unless you outright say, like, I think the United States should take over the world, should be actively, you know, etc., etc., empire, nation building, whatever, you can't be on the left opposing George W. Bush, opposing expansion of war, and then be supporting Ukraine. 0.55

01:36:57.000 That proves you have no moral framework, other than there is no truth but power.

01:37:02.000 Lately, I've been like, I've stopped taking the view of, hey, stop doing the war.

01:37:06.000 Quit that.

01:37:08.000 I no longer do that anymore.

01:37:08.000 Now I'm like, how can we re-divert resources so that the military-industrial complex can remain super profitable and we can ally with Russia and make more money for everybody?

01:37:19.000 There's gotta be a new, not just stop and don't.

01:37:22.000 That won't work anymore.

01:37:23.000 It's moving.

01:37:25.000 I'm sorry, I lost what I was saying because I was listening to Ian.

01:37:28.000 You'll get it.

01:37:30.000 I have a different, I'm not anti-war.

01:37:32.000 My point, real quick, I wanted to hear what you had to say.

01:37:36.000 My point was the left has no moral framework because they say we oppose George W. Bush.

01:37:41.000 Yeah, I feel like, I understand what you're saying.

01:37:44.000 I feel like the reason that they're, I think that the left is okay with global government because the left is where communism comes from and you don't get real communism unless you have like Global communism.

01:37:58.000 So I don't think that the left isn't okay with that kind of stuff.

01:38:01.000 And I do think that the left is okay with expansive governments and stuff like that because that's how you end up with a global government.

01:38:06.000 Do you think the average... But I don't think that it makes... I understand what you're saying when you say that it doesn't make sense for this particular war in general.

01:38:15.000 Do you think the average Democrat voter supports communism?

01:38:18.000 No, I think the average Democrat voter is the default leftist.

01:38:22.000 Which shows there's no moral framework among the left.

01:38:25.000 You can say that some elements of the left are communist, but when the majority of their voter base doesn't know or care or pay attention, it's just no moral framework.

01:38:33.000 That's the default. 0.79

01:38:33.000 I think the difference between leftists and Democrats is that You can vote for a Democratic candidate and be completely politically ignorant, then you're not a leftist. 0.79

01:38:42.000 But if you're politically active and you're into that kind of thing, you become on the left.

01:38:47.000 It's the activation of political ideology that puts you in a right or left concept.

01:38:51.000 Whether you're a Republican or Democrat, you might just be completely apolitical.

01:38:54.000 Andrew Breitbart called it default liberal, I believe.

01:38:57.000 That was the saying.

01:38:57.000 That's what I think.

01:38:58.000 They follow the corporate press.

01:39:00.000 I think Breitbart was totally on it with that.

01:39:04.000 The Democrats are the party of the nice voters, so yeah.

01:39:07.000 We definitely gotta go, Super Chats. 0.98

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01:39:38.000 Fitzberg says, hey Joel, what are your thoughts on graphene?

01:39:45.000 I don't even know what it is, that's my thought.

01:39:47.000 Oh boy.

01:39:47.000 I've got some right here.

01:39:48.000 It's carbon.

01:39:50.000 It's a hexagonally latticed carbon that can be used as a, what, metamaterial?

01:39:55.000 Yeah, it's one atom layer thick of carbon, like in a honeycomb.

01:39:59.000 Okay.

01:40:00.000 And it's a superconductor, super strong.

01:40:02.000 Yeah, it's capacitive, like a battery you can make.

01:40:05.000 Touchscreen wallpaper out of it.

01:40:06.000 I have clothing that's made out of it It's like and it's made from pure carbon so you can get it from carbon dioxide while we're here.

01:40:12.000 I'll just say this They've got new batteries.

01:40:13.000 They've been putting together lithium-ion They've been actually creating graphene network in it to create a graphene composite battery They charge something like 20 to 30 times faster.

01:40:23.000 So there you go.

01:40:24.000 Let's read some more superchats Thumbs up Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:40:29.000 says, Tim, you did it your big time.

01:40:31.000 Elon subscribes to you now.

01:40:32.000 Hell's bells, but sir, please don't forget this one important thing.

01:40:35.000 Luke beat you to it.

01:40:37.000 Well, I don't know, Elon can follow whoever he wants.

01:40:39.000 Here's the graphing, Joel, by the way.

01:40:40.000 I did a video about Elon and the CBC, and you can see it says Elon subscribes to you on my Twitter account.

01:40:46.000 He responded to Luke earlier today.

01:40:48.000 Oh, about what?

01:40:49.000 They're cute.

01:40:51.000 Luke posted a video of like this supermarket that had been ransacked, and Elon was like, looks like Fallout.

01:40:56.000 The game.

01:40:57.000 Well, uh, I'll just say it.

01:40:59.000 I'm like, oh, he follows me.

01:41:00.000 I hit him up and I was like, I'd really love to do a Twitter 2.0 conversation.

01:41:05.000 Like I asked Joe the same thing.

01:41:07.000 Look, in terms of guys on the totem pole, I'm at the bottom here.

01:41:10.000 It's Elon Musk.

01:41:10.000 It's Joe Rogan.

01:41:11.000 Let's start off on a Twitter space.

01:41:12.000 But I mean, yeah, I mean, that's the opportunity to do a Twitter space.

01:41:16.000 Actually, Mario, Mario Nawfal, I think is his name, he does Twitter spaces, and he's done them with Elon.

01:41:22.000 Maybe he could get you involved.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, but I'm like, look, we did, Joe, myself, Jack, and Vijay did that whole Twitter conversation, and doing the same conversation, but with the new boss, I think would be really, really great.

01:41:34.000 But it's up to them.

01:41:36.000 Yeah, host a Twitter, talk to Elon, set up a host where you host it, and he'll come in.

01:41:41.000 Maybe.

01:41:42.000 I mean, we've got the iPhone set up here because we're actually thinking of launching some kind of space thing for IRL, figuring it out.

01:41:47.000 But, you know, we'll see.

01:41:48.000 We'll see.

01:41:49.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:41:50.000 What do we got?

01:41:52.000 Senor Poodle says, Please talk about that woman who was attacked during the recent Chicago riots.

01:41:58.000 That video is beyond enraging.

01:41:59.000 We did.

01:41:59.000 We talked about it.

01:42:01.000 Hunter Killer says, I think the left is pushing the KC shooting to A, push to get rid of stand your ground laws, and B, distract from events like this past weekend in Chicago.

01:42:09.000 I completely agree.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, and ask questions like, should an 84 year old man have a gun?

01:42:13.000 Yes.

01:42:14.000 Because he's the one who actually needs it.

01:42:15.000 And it's another issue of...

01:42:18.000 When we're living in dense populated areas, these things will happen, and you don't want to live here.

01:42:24.000 I mean, look man, I said this earlier, if in the middle of the night, it's like, it was after 10pm this happened, so if it's like, maybe not the middle of the night, but it's 11pm, We've got armed guards here.

01:42:36.000 If someone walked up to the house that was not on our, like, expected list and known list and they walked past our perimeter and tried entering the house, I don't think they would get shot, but you better believe they'd probably have a gun pointed in their face.

01:42:49.000 And they'd be instructed to back away, get on the ground, like, we've been swatted 15 times, we have death threats.

01:42:54.000 Now, the difference is, this is not some, like, simple private residence.

01:42:57.000 It's a big office with a bunch of people who are working here, so it's a bit different.

01:43:01.000 But yeah, if someone randomly showed up and tried entering the house, would not go well for them.

01:43:05.000 At the very least, they might get detained and hurt in the process.

01:43:09.000 And, uh, I advise people stay away.

01:43:11.000 As for this old man...

01:43:13.000 A stranger went to his house and tried opening the door and he panicked.

01:43:17.000 Yeah, that's the thing that gets me.

01:43:18.000 He tried to open the door.

01:43:18.000 Even if you're picking up your little brothers or whatever it was, his cousins, why would you open the door?

01:43:23.000 Like, for what reason?

01:43:24.000 And this is an important point too.

01:43:24.000 For real.

01:43:27.000 There's no argument for that.

01:43:28.000 None.

01:43:29.000 You were given an address.

01:43:30.000 You clearly don't know what the building looks like.

01:43:32.000 Why would you try to walk into the front door without knocking first?

01:43:36.000 I mean, I agree 100% and it's just like the kid made a boneheaded decision.

01:43:36.000 Exactly.

01:43:41.000 Because I imagine the kid's not like looking to like...

01:43:45.000 He's going there to help, you know, find his brothers and sisters or whatever.

01:43:48.000 It's not like the kid's trying to hurt someone or trying to break in or whatever. 0.99

01:43:52.000 It's just the kid was like, oh, and he made a bonehead. 0.99

01:43:55.000 It sounds like he made a bonehead decision and tried to go in to get his brother. 1.00

01:43:58.000 It sucks. 0.99

01:43:59.000 But I don't imagine that the guy was just like, oh, here's my chance. 0.96

01:44:03.000 We got a picture in the day before.

01:44:03.000 No, it's 11 o'clock.

01:44:05.000 I gotta read this backhanded compliment of, uh, Phil.

01:44:08.000 Joseph Ramos says, Wanted to tell Phil Labonte that as a hardcore dude, I'm glad that I'm not the only non-leftist in heavy music culture.

01:44:16.000 Sorry for writing you guys off as butt rock after your second album.

01:44:20.000 Second album?! !

01:44:22.000 Not that, I would be surprised.

01:44:23.000 No hate, no hate.

01:44:25.000 Take a listen to our stuff, I don't mind at all.

01:44:27.000 What's Butt Rock?

01:44:28.000 Butt Rock is... Nickelback.

01:44:30.000 Yeah, you know.

01:44:31.000 Because it's like, poopy?

01:44:33.000 No, it's just meant to insult generic rock bands like Nickelback.

01:44:39.000 I like Nickelback.

01:44:40.000 I love Nickelback.

01:44:42.000 Nickelback's Devil Went Down to Georgia is amazing. 1.00

01:44:47.000 I don't play the stupid, like, you-better-fit-in-by-claiming-to-hate-the-things-we-hate stuff. 1.00

01:44:52.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:44:53.000 Is that Better Off Yet? 1.00

01:44:54.000 Is that the name of their song?

01:44:57.000 Their new song is a song called St.

01:45:00.000 Quentin.

01:45:01.000 They're just awesome.

01:45:01.000 It's awesome.

01:45:03.000 I'm not a big fan.

01:45:04.000 It's so funny that they had that reputation, because they had long hair.

01:45:07.000 They were just so exactly what you would think of in that scene at that time.

01:45:11.000 Like Creed, you really couldn't tell him apart if you weren't part of that scene.

01:45:11.000 They were awesome.

01:45:15.000 It's the craziest thing.

01:45:16.000 I've never been a big fan or anything like that, but the idea that the left one day decided they hated Nickelback and then everyone had to hate them, I'm just like... I think they got overplayed.

01:45:24.000 It was similar with Hootie and the Blowfish.

01:45:25.000 They didn't get it like Nickelback, man.

01:45:26.000 No, it started with a protest of Rahm Emanuel.

01:45:29.000 And someone held up a sign saying, Rahm Emanuel likes Nickelback.

01:45:31.000 And that set the tone.

01:45:33.000 Nickelback was bad.

01:45:34.000 And the left now said, if you like Nickelback, you're bad.

01:45:37.000 And my attitude is just kind of like, I don't know.

01:45:40.000 They got that one good song.

01:45:41.000 It was a hit like for six weeks or something.

01:45:43.000 Devil Went Down to Georgia, legit good song.

01:45:45.000 The rest of the stuff, I just don't listen to.

01:45:47.000 I don't know.

01:45:48.000 I got no issue with them.

01:45:48.000 There's a lot of bands I don't listen to.

01:45:50.000 I don't smack talk them. 1.00

01:45:51.000 Why would I? 1.00

01:45:52.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:45:52.000 Yeah, lift musicians up. 1.00

01:45:54.000 Now's the time.

01:45:55.000 I like Soundgarden.

01:45:56.000 Recently I've been listening to them a lot.

01:45:57.000 All those old classics.

01:45:59.000 30-year-old songs.

01:46:00.000 I almost hit the highest note in the song, and people are here in the house that can verify that.

01:46:07.000 They can.

01:46:08.000 We'll get you up there.

01:46:09.000 They know you're working on it.

01:46:10.000 I'll give you some workouts.

01:46:11.000 We'll get you up there.

01:46:13.000 Alright, let's see where we are at.

01:46:16.000 T-Rex Pet Shop says, big corporations are realizing the consequence of joining the culture war and none come out unharmed.

01:46:23.000 We have even faced backlash for being anti-woke.

01:46:26.000 We will not be moved.

01:46:27.000 Stop supporting woke pet stores.

01:46:29.000 Tim, we still haven't been paid with our money.

01:46:31.000 Ha ha ha.

01:46:32.000 Oh, we gotta, I don't know what the next thing is.

01:46:34.000 We gotta order for Bocas, so I don't know.

01:46:36.000 Thing, what do you mean thing?

01:46:37.000 Well, from T-Rex, we needed food.

01:46:39.000 Oh.

01:46:40.000 Well, he's on that very special diet, so I don't know.

01:46:43.000 Okay.

01:46:43.000 He still seems like he's sick, but... No, he's gained weight.

01:46:46.000 He's like gained 0.3 pounds or something.

01:46:48.000 He looks great.

01:46:49.000 Have you seen him in the last... I went and said what's up to him earlier.

01:46:51.000 He was screaming.

01:46:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:53.000 I mean, relative to where he was at, he looks phenomenal.

01:46:55.000 But he's bored as hell and he's stuck in the room.

01:46:57.000 Like, you think about it, like, you know, three or four months ago, everyone was like, Bocas is done. 0.61

01:47:02.000 He's gone.

01:47:02.000 Oh, dude.

01:47:03.000 In December or whatever, we were told he had two weeks.

01:47:06.000 And when he came back to us, he couldn't stand up.

01:47:08.000 He tried to go in the litter box and he fell and then just crapped on the floor.

01:47:12.000 And that's why I made that video where I was like, this is it.

01:47:15.000 Like, he got to the point where he couldn't stand up.

01:47:18.000 He would try and stand, and then he would just, like, slump to the ground.

01:47:22.000 We got him the new diet food, we got him the hydration injections, and he got a hormone treatment that stimulated red blood cell production.

01:47:31.000 And he's already getting better.

01:47:32.000 And then Ian got him the experimental stem cell therapy.

01:47:35.000 Oh, thank you.

01:47:36.000 That's amazing.

01:47:36.000 Hopewell Medical Hospital, Animal Hospital in New York.

01:47:39.000 Man, in Hopewell, New York.

01:47:40.000 Like, it was nice to take a week away in Austin because I got to see Bucko before we left and after.

01:47:45.000 So, like, if you see everybody every day, you don't notice the changes.

01:47:47.000 But a full week of away, he got puffier.

01:47:49.000 Like, his fur's a little puffier.

01:47:51.000 He looks a little bigger.

01:47:52.000 A little fat hanging off his sides.

01:47:53.000 I like it.

01:47:54.000 Yeah, I was here.

01:47:54.000 I'm talking in the main room.

01:47:56.000 He wants out.

01:47:57.000 Alright.

01:47:58.000 Phil Dudebro says, What you guys don't realize, Bud Light has a whole line of hard seltzers with girly flavors and they want to outlaw menthol cigarettes.

01:48:07.000 Okay.

01:48:10.000 Dorktanian says, It's a Benjamin Crump story, Tim.

01:48:13.000 The same lawyer activist who is behind a multitude of the BLM bull. 0.90

01:48:16.000 That's right!

01:48:16.000 Is Benjamin Crump the lawyer?

01:48:17.000 Yes, he is. 1.00

01:48:18.000 Oh God, what a garbage man. 1.00

01:48:21.000 Yep. 1.00

01:48:22.000 It's the worst.

01:48:23.000 It's just, when I first heard the story, I was like, why is this news?

01:48:26.000 I mean, like, it's a tragic story, but this thing happens all the time.

01:48:28.000 I'm sure there's probably 50 stories just like it right now.

01:48:31.000 And notice how the media immediately wants it to be about race.

01:48:35.000 They wanted it.

01:48:36.000 They wanted it badly.

01:48:37.000 Oh, the other thing was at the White House briefing today, reporters were asking the press secretary for a statement about what this says about America.

01:48:45.000 So we are all to be judged by this one incident, which could turn out to be You know, a boneheaded move by the kid, or a terrible mistake, or worse, by the homeowner, but somehow it's all of our fault.

01:48:58.000 Like, this says something about us collectively.

01:49:00.000 That's not the politicians saying that.

01:49:02.000 Those are the so-called journalists.

01:49:03.000 We have one from Gabriel Lopez.

01:49:04.000 He says, yes, women will vote for their own demise. 1.00

01:49:07.000 As men, it's our job to protect them, even from themselves.

01:49:10.000 The 19th was a giant anti-woman move. 1.00

01:49:13.000 They should not be diving in the pile of garbage that is politics. 0.99

01:49:15.000 Look at the results. 0.99

01:49:17.000 I completely disagree.

01:49:18.000 I think women absolutely should have the right to vote. 1.00

01:49:21.000 I think individuals matter most, but I will say of the 19th, I do take issue with it.

01:49:26.000 The 19th Amendment says you cannot discriminate on the basis of sex.

01:49:29.000 You know what that means?

01:49:31.000 It means trans people can have the right to vote rescinded because it's not protected under the 19th Amendment. 0.88

01:49:37.000 The 19th Amendment says sex, not gender.

01:49:39.000 I think we should just repeal the 19th, eliminate all that language, and just... we don't need an amendment telling people who's allowed to vote.

01:49:46.000 Right?

01:49:47.000 Right.

01:49:48.000 I mean, in all seriousness, I don't understand why we need an amendment to be like, an individual has the right to vote.

01:49:54.000 You want an amendment that says who is- you're not able to stop from voting.

01:49:59.000 Like you shouldn't be able to stop people from voting.

01:50:01.000 That's basically what the Constitution should show.

01:50:03.000 I would like to see an amendment that, or I would like to see a requirement for citizens.

01:50:08.000 I'm into this!

01:50:08.000 A censorship requirement?

01:50:10.000 Vivek Ramaswamy went hard on that too.

01:50:12.000 And we talked about service.

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 I think his answer was, simply put, sign up for the Selective Service and you get your voter ID card.

01:50:22.000 I'm pretty much okay with that.

01:50:23.000 I mean, unless we could figure out a way to have no one vote then.

01:50:28.000 Yeah, no voting for anybody.

01:50:29.000 Nobody.

01:50:29.000 Just Donald Trump becomes president and that's it.

01:50:31.000 And then we, you know, make him a cyborg and then upload his brain to an AI.

01:50:35.000 And then from now on you have Cybertrump.

01:50:38.000 And then we tell them if they mess up we're gonna pull the plug.

01:50:42.000 Cybertron vs. Mechabiden would be cool.

01:50:44.000 Cybertron vs. Cybertruck.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, sure.

01:50:48.000 Who would win?

01:50:48.000 Mechabiden.

01:50:49.000 Seven Om Cruise says, Tim, I'm one of those filthy beer drinkers.

01:50:52.000 I would like to thank you for letting me know about Modelo being owned by Bud Light.

01:50:56.000 I would also further thank you for introducing me to Yingling.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, I misspoke.

01:51:00.000 I said I thought Yingling may have been partially owned by Anheuser.

01:51:04.000 It is not.

01:51:04.000 It's actually a traditionally owned family business that has been passed down from generation to generation for like 200 years.

01:51:11.000 Richard Yingling Jr.

01:51:13.000 Not to mention, I actually think Yingling tastes really good.

01:51:18.000 The beers that I like to drink, Blue Moon I like, Modelo I like, and Yingling I like. 0.82

01:51:24.000 Dude, the Modelo thing sucks so much.

01:51:25.000 I know. 0.99

01:51:26.000 Why?

01:51:27.000 What happened with Modelo?

01:51:29.000 I believe half of it is owned by Anheuser-Busch, by InBev or whatever.

01:51:32.000 And so it's a bummer.

01:51:33.000 But I don't drink beer anyway, so I'm not going to be drinking any of it.

01:51:37.000 But if I had to choose a beer, it'd be a Yingling.

01:51:40.000 Nice.

01:51:41.000 That's just me.

01:51:42.000 I mean, it's really good.

01:51:42.000 America's oldest brewery.

01:51:43.000 It's also made in Philly, right?

01:51:45.000 Yep.

01:51:45.000 It's like real traditional American.

01:51:47.000 They just made a commercial.

01:51:48.000 They made an ad that's a picture of a yingling with the American flag.

01:51:51.000 Yeah, I saw it.

01:51:52.000 So, you know, I'll take it.

01:51:53.000 That's good.

01:51:53.000 But like, people have mentioned that... I could be wrong about this.

01:51:57.000 I don't know.

01:51:57.000 There was pictures of a pride flag with yingling and chorus and all that stuff.

01:52:01.000 And I'm like, I don't know or care if that's true because I got no problem with it.

01:52:04.000 I don't care.

01:52:06.000 You know?

01:52:06.000 Right.

01:52:07.000 What I care about is, like, specifically Dylan Mulvaney being a really, really evil person.

01:52:13.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:52:14.000 We got some more news.

01:52:15.000 Oh, we also do have really big news that we're going to have on the Members Only show that, for obvious reasons, not going to be on the main show.

01:52:22.000 The FDA announced that they're... I'm going to be careful of the language here.

01:52:26.000 A major announcement was made on whether or not you can get the mRNA vaccines.

01:52:33.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.

01:52:34.000 Yeah, and because the language is extremely confusing, and they put out like six tweets, some that contradict each other. 0.98

01:52:40.000 I'm gonna be careful about the language I use on YouTube, because YouTube's full of crap.

01:52:44.000 But they basically made an announcement about certain vaccines you are no longer allowed to get.

01:52:48.000 And I wonder if this coincides with the end of the national COVID emergency, meaning emergency use authorizations are officially out the window.

01:52:56.000 You can't have an EUA on something if there's no emergency, I guess.

01:52:58.000 But we'll talk about that in the Members Only portion.

01:53:00.000 So make sure you go to TimCast.com.

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01:53:05.000 North Georgia Infantry says April is Confederate History Month.

01:53:09.000 Is that true?

01:53:11.000 Is that true?

01:53:12.000 I don't know.

01:53:14.000 I mean, Civil War history is absolutely fascinating.

01:53:17.000 I think it's- Yeah, I love that you're talking about Harper's Ferry earlier.

01:53:19.000 Did you see the battery?

01:53:21.000 The old weapons hold- I think it's called a battery, but it was just leveled- all there is is just like concrete base now.

01:53:28.000 It was completely leveled to the ground by the Union soldiers when they came in.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, it's fascinating.

01:53:32.000 I mean, what also I think is interesting about the town is there is a bed and breakfast you can actually stay at that used to be Stonewall Jackson's headquarters when the Confederates took over the town.

01:53:42.000 They haven't erased any of that history.

01:53:44.000 It's just layer upon layer upon layer.

01:53:46.000 That's what it was.

01:53:46.000 It was the armory.

01:53:48.000 There's a really awesome little coffee shop.

01:53:51.000 uh in Harper's Ferry that I love going to.

01:53:52.000 I'm gonna shout him out.

01:53:53.000 Let me look up.

01:53:54.000 You go up the hill to that church that's like blown out and that's like I guess there was like a last stand or there's like stands up there where dudes would just like hold out on the top of the hill.

01:54:01.000 There were so many battles there.

01:54:02.000 It was taken over five times I think they have this by different armies within the Civil War that went back and forth and you got John Brown of course and the NAACP being there and Just so many different things.

01:54:17.000 You could learn so much about American history from one town.

01:54:20.000 And again, it just shows you the value of preserving these things and not rewriting history because parts of it offend you or parts of it are difficult.

01:54:29.000 I mean, John Brown was difficult for his age.

01:54:33.000 He was an abolitionist who took up arms, arguably pushed the United States towards civil war, later celebrated as more of a hero.

01:54:42.000 But how many different perspectives were there about that guy at his time?

01:54:45.000 You can't cancel any of that stuff and still learn from it.

01:54:48.000 Battlegrounds, shout out.

01:54:50.000 Oh, the coffee shop?

01:54:51.000 Yeah, the Battlegrounds coffee shop.

01:54:52.000 Because there are so many battlegrounds on that ridge.

01:54:54.000 Strategically massively important location.

01:54:56.000 Good name for a coffee shop, too.

01:54:58.000 Yep.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, but they do a really, really awesome BLT.

01:55:04.000 Or it's not a BLT, it's like bacon, lettuce, tomato, and egg.

01:55:06.000 Dude, if you guys have not been to Harper's Ferry, you have got to visit Harper's Ferry.

01:55:11.000 I've never seen any city like it before.

01:55:13.000 It is incredible.

01:55:15.000 And there's so many cool businesses in that town.

01:55:15.000 It is amazing.

01:55:17.000 Like little shops and restaurants.

01:55:19.000 You see on the mountain, they've carved an advertisement you were mentioning earlier?

01:55:22.000 I've never seen anything like that!

01:55:23.000 That is wild!

01:55:23.000 And they're like, well, we, oops, we're not going to do that again, because it's there forever.

01:55:27.000 Like, that's some good placement.

01:55:30.000 All right, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:55:33.000 What do we got here?

01:55:35.000 William Jones says, Tim, look at Tech N9ne's song, Drama, help you understand KC.

01:55:40.000 P.S.

01:55:41.000 Tech, a rapper from KCMO.

01:55:44.000 Interesting.

01:55:46.000 All right.

01:55:47.000 Free Men Dive Free says Nickelback is the GOP of music.

01:55:50.000 Popular when it shouldn't be.

01:55:52.000 Discord is lit right now, by the way.

01:55:53.000 Oh, very cool.

01:55:55.000 Yeah, become a member.

01:55:56.000 Go to TimCast.com, click join us, get access to our Discord server, hang out with like-minded individuals, and, uh...

01:56:02.000 Got some news from the state on the poker club.

01:56:05.000 Apparently, they only allow a certain amount of gaming licenses, so we likely would not be able to have a poker club, and they're very strict on home poker games, so you can't even do it Texas-style.

01:56:16.000 But I'm actually wondering if that's constitutional.

01:56:19.000 I'm gonna get a little esoteric with you guys, because I really want to say this.

01:56:23.000 Poker is, for those that play, it's extremely popular.

01:56:26.000 Obviously, it's getting more and more popular by the minute.

01:56:28.000 The World Series of Poker had like 11,000 entrants, so it's really starting to, in my view, pick up.

01:56:33.000 Obviously, I got into it in the past several months, watching these videos online.

01:56:37.000 But mostly because I've always played it.

01:56:39.000 I've always played Magic the Gathering.

01:56:41.000 What I don't understand is...

01:56:43.000 It's a game where you choose your odds, you choose your probability, you can choose to play or not to play.

01:56:48.000 It's a skill game.

01:56:50.000 There is chance involved.

01:56:51.000 But Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!, all these card games are skill and chance games.

01:56:57.000 Why is it that in West Virginia, in Maryland, in Pennsylvania, in every single state, I can take a deck of cards, I can then pay money to a facility, To enter me into a contest where I cross my fingers that I'm gonna get a good draw of my cards and get the right cards that I need to win.

01:57:16.000 And then if I do win, I get paid cash for it.

01:57:19.000 Is that not gambling?

01:57:21.000 Magic the Gathering is a game of partial chance.

01:57:23.000 It's a skill game, for sure.

01:57:25.000 But if everyone's playing Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, you name your card game.

01:57:28.000 In fact, I think poker is actually more reasonably fair because there's no barrier for entry.

01:57:33.000 Yeah, you're always using the same deck.

01:57:35.000 Exactly.

01:57:35.000 In Magic the Gathering, which is the most popular physical card game, there are tournaments where people can make tens of thousands of dollars.

01:57:41.000 You pay 500 bucks to enter a tournament, you play against people, cross your fingers, you draw a good card because it's random chance.

01:57:48.000 And it's even kind of worse, because if someone else has a lot of money and they've bought the best cards, you have less of a chance of winning.

01:57:54.000 Exactly.

01:57:55.000 Buying a good deck in Magic requires you to be wealthy, which is just a disadvantage.

01:57:59.000 So it's worse than poker.

01:58:00.000 Poker is the same deck, the same odds, everyone's playing the same game, and if you've got the skill, you can figure out what the person's trying to do and if you can win or not.

01:58:09.000 It's skill-based, with chance on the side.

01:58:11.000 Magic the Gathering has so many layers, but I'm not trying to rag on Magic, I like Magic.

01:58:15.000 My question is, why is one legal and one not legal, when they're both effectively the exact same thing?

01:58:21.000 And you can make the argument that you're not wagering cash in between each turn, but poker tournaments are still illegal.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, in a tournament you would pay money up front and then you just wager chips, which represent, I guess, the cash, but they don't because... Points!

01:58:34.000 But it doesn't matter, it's still illegal.

01:58:36.000 Can't do it.

01:58:36.000 So I think there's a lawsuit to Bruin in that it's an unconstitutional move to single out one card game and not others.

01:58:43.000 So they either have to make Yu-Gi-Oh illegal or make poker illegal.

01:58:47.000 I'm not talking about playing blackjack.

01:58:48.000 I don't want to play blackjack or these table games.

01:58:50.000 I'm talking about friends playing against friends.

01:58:52.000 So I was talking with Allison earlier, and I'm like, why don't we just do this?

01:58:57.000 We'll make a card game called Wizards and Warriors, where there's four elements.

01:59:00.000 There's water, fire, earth, and wind.

01:59:05.000 And there's 13, 14 creatures that fight?

01:59:07.000 No, no, no.

01:59:08.000 There's elemental power.

01:59:10.000 So you have power levels one through nine.

01:59:12.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:59:13.000 Then you have- Power levels, jack, queen, king, and ace as well.

01:59:15.000 Absolutely, that's right.

01:59:16.000 I mean, we're calling something else, I mean, sorry.

01:59:17.000 The aces of fire, the kings of fire.

01:59:20.000 We can call them whatever.

01:59:20.000 And then what you're doing is you're trying to cast a spell against your opponent, and like- Three of a kind, you need two pair- Yep, exactly.

01:59:27.000 Basically, it's poker rules, but we'll just make it different.

01:59:29.000 We'll claim we're playing D&D or something.

01:59:31.000 We'll tweak, we have to tweak a little bit of the rule, I think.

01:59:33.000 You can really just, you can really just make them, like, make the cards have, like, pictures instead of the numbers and stuff on them.

01:59:40.000 But it's like, oh, I've got level five fire, and I've got three level five fires, so they've synchronized, giving me a triple fire blast.

01:59:47.000 That defeats your double fire blast. 0.89

01:59:50.000 I take all of the money, you know what I mean?

01:59:52.000 Yep.

01:59:53.000 If you just add a weird mystical element to it, all of a sudden it's a trading card game.

01:59:56.000 It's a kid's game, yeah, it's fine. 1.00

01:59:58.000 Yeah, it's so dumb. 1.00

01:59:59.000 All right. 0.99

02:00:00.000 Nathan C says, Yingling is PA coal miners beer. 0.97

02:00:03.000 My World War II vet grandpa used to drink it.

02:00:05.000 He was a master carpenter and I think he did a bit of mining when younger.

02:00:08.000 True grit.

02:00:09.000 Drinking some now on my birthday.

02:00:10.000 Cheers.

02:00:11.000 Happy birthday, Nathan.

02:00:12.000 Happy birthday, man.

02:00:12.000 Happy birthday.

02:00:13.000 Rip Juice says, please bring Bocas on so we can see him healthier. 0.98

02:00:16.000 I could do that.

02:00:17.000 You want to grab him for the members only?

02:00:18.000 I will.

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02:00:46.000 Joel, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:48.000 Yeah, I've got a new book out.

02:00:50.000 It's the biography of my mother-in-law who passed away a year ago, Rhoda, and she was an anti-apartheid activist, opposed racism in South Africa, was appointed to the new government by Nelson Mandela, and then resigned in protest over that government's failures, became one of the most reciferous critics of that government, and from starting out as a black feminist, she became a Trump supporter.

02:01:09.000 So a very interesting political arc and a fantastic person.

02:01:13.000 We lost her a year ago, but she left a legacy and you can read about it in the book.

02:01:16.000 Surge is from South Africa.

02:01:17.000 Where are you from, Surge?

02:01:19.000 Do you mean like where my parents are from?

02:01:21.000 Yeah.

02:01:21.000 My father's from a town called Belfast, which is north of Johannesburg, maybe like an hour and a half.

02:01:26.000 And then my mom is from Pretoria.

02:01:27.000 Okay.

02:01:28.000 So yeah, the northern part.

02:01:29.000 Yes.

02:01:30.000 Yeah.

02:01:30.000 My wife was born and raised in Cape Town.

02:01:32.000 I was born in Johannesburg, but grew up in Chicago.

02:01:34.000 Wow.

02:01:36.000 People are saying, don't put Bocas behind a paywall. 1.00

02:01:39.000 If you want to see Bocas, you gotta pay! 1.00

02:01:40.000 Phil, you want to shout anything out?

02:01:43.000 I am PhilThatRemains on Twitter.

02:01:45.000 I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.

02:01:48.000 The band is AllThatRemains on all of the Spotify, Apple Music, all that stuff.

02:01:54.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

02:01:54.000 Follow me at iancrossland.net.

02:01:56.000 And also I want to shout you out, Joel, your Twitter anyway, Joel Pollack.

02:02:02.000 P-O-L-L-A-K. 1.00

02:02:02.000 People can follow you there. 1.00

02:02:03.000 Thanks for coming.

02:02:04.000 It was really enjoyable, actually.

02:02:05.000 And I feel like in the amount of time we had, we just kind of got started and looking into your brain.

02:02:10.000 I really love it.

02:02:10.000 So thank you for coming.

02:02:12.000 I'd love to talk about, if we can, in the members only, let's talk about Occupy Wall Street and Andrew Breitbart and how we got here.

02:02:20.000 Awesome.

02:02:20.000 We also have Serge Duprea.

02:02:23.000 Yes, I'm on mute there.

02:02:24.000 Hi guys.

02:02:25.000 Surge.com on Twitter.

02:02:27.000 That's all.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 19, 2023

Timcast IRL - MATT WALSH HACKED?! Bud Light BACKLASH Goes NUCLEAR As Left Loses It w-Joel Pollak

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