Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - McConnell And GOP Considering CONVICTING Trump And Removing Him w- Dave Smith

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:20.000 you Donald Trump hasn't been saying a whole lot in this past

00:00:45.000 week but he did recently come out saying impeachment was a bad idea.

00:00:49.000 He's saying he's not going to get removed under the 25th Amendment, and I think he's probably right, because when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer called Mike Pence, he had them wait on hold for 25 minutes, and then the aide came back on and said, he's not going to take your call, so that was kind of brutal.

00:01:03.000 I really don't think they're going to get what they want, but they are moving to impeach, and here's where it gets a little different, however.

00:01:08.000 Mitch McConnell's reportedly pleased that Republicans are expressing their intent to vote to impeach Trump.

00:01:14.000 Well, he's pleased that Democrats are moving forward.

00:01:17.000 There's now reports from one New York Times reporter that up to 20 Republican senators are open to convicting the president.

00:01:25.000 I couldn't believe it myself when I heard it because I'm like, well, that would be the end of all of these Republicans.

00:01:30.000 You know what, though?

00:01:31.000 It probably already is.

00:01:33.000 Most of them have already said no to Trump.

00:01:35.000 So I can't imagine Trump voters, the actual party, their actual Republican party base, are gonna turn out for most of them.

00:01:42.000 I mean, look, they'll get some, but they lost in Georgia.

00:01:45.000 I don't know what's gonna happen in 2022, but they do have the, you know, gerrymandering on their side right now, because many of their, many House-level legislatures were won by Republicans, or I should say, you know, their Senates and their General Assemblies, et cetera.

00:01:58.000 So they might be able to gerrymander their way into a victory.

00:02:00.000 But I kind of feel like Trump supporters may go in entirely different directions, so we'll see how that plays out.

00:02:05.000 But we got other news, too.

00:02:06.000 This is crazy stuff.

00:02:07.000 Reports coming out that they're expecting massive riots or protests at 50 state capitals.

00:02:13.000 They're saying now 4,000 people will surround Congress if they try to impeach Trump.

00:02:18.000 And I'm not sure I believe any of this stuff.

00:02:20.000 It seems extremely exaggerated.

00:02:21.000 And when you follow actual Trump forums, none of them are talking about this.

00:02:25.000 In fact, they're actually calling it out.

00:02:26.000 But who knows what's going to happen?

00:02:28.000 We've got a statement now from the Joint Chiefs that the retired officers who were on the ground at the Capitol were committing sedition, and they're warning against following MAGA, I guess.

00:02:38.000 So things are getting a whole, like, just kind of crazy.

00:02:42.000 And I'm hoping everybody can calm down.

00:02:44.000 But now we have this other story from Project Veritas.

00:02:47.000 Now this one's creepy.

00:02:48.000 PBS's principal counsel saying, even if Biden wins, we're gonna take their kids and send them to, like, re-education camps. 0.99

00:02:55.000 You got a lot of really crazy people in this country. 0.98

00:02:57.000 Even if it's just someone trying to talk smack behind the scenes, that's crazy!

00:03:01.000 Who, like, this guy from the Veritas video, imagine him talking to someone, and apparently that's supposed to be endearing?

00:03:06.000 Like, I'm trying to win favor with this individual I just met, let me tell him I'm in favor of re-education camps? 1.00

00:03:12.000 You gotta be kinda crazy to think someone's gonna wanna hear that.

00:03:16.000 So we'll talk about a lot of this.

00:03:17.000 We've also got the CIA releasing UFO documents, which will probably prove to be a whole lot of nothing.

00:03:22.000 But joining us is Dave Smith.

00:03:24.000 How's it going, man?

00:03:24.000 What's going on, brother?

00:03:25.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, who are you?

00:03:27.000 Me?

00:03:28.000 I don't know.

00:03:28.000 I'm Dave.

00:03:29.000 Just so we saw him at the local grocery store.

00:03:32.000 There's a guy buying chips.

00:03:33.000 And we're like, hey, what's your name?

00:03:34.000 And you're like, Dave.

00:03:35.000 I was like, hey, I'm Dave.

00:03:37.000 You know, I just met you, but I believe in re-education camps. 1.00

00:03:40.000 And I was like, that's how it works.

00:03:41.000 And you were like, I gotta have you on the show.

00:03:42.000 This is interesting.

00:03:43.000 We definitely should have some contrarian, pro-authoritarian, you know, Gestapo-type voices on the show.

00:03:48.000 Well, so I guess you're actually a comedian.

00:03:50.000 I am a comedian, yes.

00:03:52.000 I've been doing stand-up for 13 years, and I'm a libertarian, podcast host, host of Part of the Problem, and, you know.

00:04:01.000 That's it.

00:04:02.000 And a fan of you guys.

00:04:03.000 Oh, appreciate it, man.

00:04:04.000 We're glad to have you.

00:04:04.000 Maybe we'll get to laugh today instead of being freaked out, you know what I mean?

00:04:07.000 No, I'll probably just freak you out more.

00:04:09.000 Okay, cool, cool, cool.

00:04:10.000 Yeah, like, you know, it's all entertaining.

00:04:11.000 I like horror movies myself, so... How about a combination of both?

00:04:15.000 Laughing and terrified at the same time.

00:04:17.000 So like we'll laugh, we'll be like.

00:04:19.000 Yes.

00:04:20.000 I got the tissues ready.

00:04:23.000 We're good to go.

00:04:25.000 Oh, yes.

00:04:26.000 Hi, I live in a parking lot.

00:04:27.000 And I sell t-shirts on wearechange.org forward slash shirts.

00:04:31.000 So, hi.

00:04:33.000 That's who you are.

00:04:34.000 Yeah, that's me.

00:04:34.000 A t-shirt vendor who lives in a parking lot.

00:04:36.000 Essentially, if you really narrow it down, yes.

00:04:40.000 This is the caliber of people I have on this show.

00:04:42.000 A guy we picked up at a grocery store and the dude who sleeps in the parking lot selling t-shirts.

00:04:47.000 This is going to be excellent political commentary.

00:04:49.000 Luke's actually an independent journalist.

00:04:51.000 Thanks, Luke.

00:04:52.000 Well, you know how to sell it.

00:04:53.000 Also, there's breaking news happening right now.

00:04:55.000 I just saw this on my Twitter with the vice president announcing that he will not be invoking the 25th Amendment.

00:05:02.000 I think this is also some breaking news just happening right now.

00:05:04.000 He just issued another letter.

00:05:07.000 Mike Pence really loves his letters, but he just released it.

00:05:10.000 It just came out.

00:05:11.000 And a lot of people, especially Mitch McConnell, are going to be and Lynne Cheney are going to be very disappointed.

00:05:17.000 Liz Cheney?

00:05:18.000 Liz Cheney, U.S. 0.98

00:05:19.000 Senator, who are going to be very disappointed with We will talk about this, but don't forget Sour Patch Liz is pushing all the buttons. 1.00

00:05:25.000 I'm here in the corner.

00:05:26.000 I'm the only sane one here tonight.

00:05:27.000 You're welcome.

00:05:28.000 Ian is sick today, unfortunately.

00:05:30.000 He is, yes.

00:05:30.000 Yeah, I guess he got, you know, I don't know if he got sick the other night.

00:05:32.000 He got up early.

00:05:33.000 No, come on. 0.85

00:05:34.000 I'm just kidding.

00:05:35.000 It's not even funny.

00:05:36.000 So, yeah, we'll talk about a bunch of stuff.

00:05:38.000 Let's get started with this first story.

00:05:41.000 And this one is, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is pleased At the prospect of Trump being impeached, new report says.

00:05:48.000 When I think of Mitch McConnell being pleased, I want to think of, like, Mr. Burns going, excellent, but McConnell's kind of like a turtle.

00:05:54.000 Turtle, yeah.

00:05:55.000 So it's more like, excellent!

00:05:56.000 You know, it reminds me of, like, Disney.

00:05:58.000 They say, from Business Insider, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell believes President Donald Trump has committed multiple impeachable offenses and is pleased at the idea of Trump being impeached and removed from office, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.

00:06:12.000 The Democratic-controlled House is expected to vote on impeaching Trump on a charge of inciting an insurrection on the U.S.

00:06:17.000 Capitol on Wednesday.

00:06:18.000 This would make Trump the first president in American history to be impeached twice.

00:06:22.000 McConnell thinks that Trump being impeached and then potentially convicted and ousted from office by the U.S.

00:06:27.000 Senate will make it easier to purge him from the party, the Times said, citing people familiar with his thinking.

00:06:34.000 Oh, please.

00:06:35.000 I always love when they put those lines in there.

00:06:37.000 Familiar with his thinking.

00:06:39.000 What does that mean?

00:06:40.000 The New York Times does it all the time.

00:06:42.000 Yeah, it's an excuse to not have to be a journalist.

00:06:44.000 So you can just basically say, oh, well, someone familiar with his thinking, and then no one can really hold you to account.

00:06:49.000 Because what does that even mean?

00:06:50.000 It means some random person was like, oh, I bet he wants to purge Trump.

00:06:55.000 Well, you've read, you know, if you've watched enough Fox News to know what Mitch McConnell thinks, we'll roll with it.

00:07:00.000 Yeah, everyone's familiar with all of these criminals thinking at this point.

00:07:04.000 I'm familiar with Trump's thinking.

00:07:06.000 Yeah, we're all very familiar with Trump's thinking.

00:07:10.000 But now he can't express what he's thinking on Twitter anymore.

00:07:14.000 Wouldn't it be funny if like Donald Trump, because the last thing he really has is that the old school thing where the president can interrupt broadcast television.

00:07:22.000 But like if Trump just did it like every 15 minutes to like Tell you what he was gonna tweet.

00:07:26.000 Like, he just comes in and he's like, we have the biggest crowd sizes.

00:07:29.000 Alright, I'll be back.

00:07:29.000 I mean, what if he just... Happy Cinco de Mayo.

00:07:32.000 Here's my taco ball.

00:07:33.000 No, but what if he just did it?

00:07:35.000 And it was just him hanging out and he just talked for hours and all TV was just taken over.

00:07:39.000 That'd be so funny.

00:07:40.000 He also has the presidential texting system.

00:07:42.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:07:42.000 If someone can go, wham, and it'll be like Trump saying, you know, we had a huge rally,

00:07:46.000 it was the biggest, everyone agrees, I did nothing wrong.

00:07:49.000 Could you imagine getting his tweets forcefully because Twitter bans him?

00:07:52.000 So he's like, that's kind of been the joke Trump supporters are saying,

00:07:55.000 he's going to start spamming through the presidential alert system.

00:07:58.000 I'd be here for it.

00:08:00.000 That's pretty entertaining.

00:08:01.000 I think it'd be a good time.

00:08:02.000 You know, life is fairly boring and routine, you know?

00:08:06.000 And these past several years have been so psychotic and just everything constantly getting crazier and crazier.

00:08:11.000 I think everybody needs like a little vacation.

00:08:13.000 Maybe that's the good with boring old Biden, who fumbles and mumbles and doesn't give pressers.

00:08:19.000 At the very least, people, the media, I should say, won't have anything to talk about.

00:08:24.000 I guess the ramifications are the political destruction that will come following this.

00:08:27.000 That's bad.

00:08:28.000 It's pretty bad if you're like a citizen in Syria or something like that. 1.00

00:08:31.000 But I think a lot of people voted for Biden for that reason.

00:08:35.000 People in Taiwan are freaking out.

00:08:36.000 Yeah, and maybe they should be.

00:08:39.000 But I think a lot of people, it's not just Trump fatigue, it's like the media fatigue too.

00:08:44.000 Like they're just so over this whole thing and just want, like people crave normal.

00:08:50.000 No, the media is panicking.

00:08:52.000 There was a journalist, I'm not going to say her name, but she tweeted, I don't know what I'm going to do.

00:08:57.000 My whole career was built upon Donald Trump and now Trump's gone and there's nothing to write about.

00:09:02.000 Did you see that reply guy to Trump who was just like, it's more unsettling not knowing what Trump is thinking?

00:09:09.000 It's like, oh, he's going to cry now.

00:09:11.000 Is it unsettling or do you just realize you have no meaning in your life now?

00:09:15.000 So that might be what's unsettling.

00:09:17.000 But I think the problem that all of the establishment types are going to run into, because this is a big moment for them, like they got the guy out who they wanted to get out.

00:09:27.000 Then they have this great excuse with the Capitol riot where they can be like, aha, see, we were right about everything and right wing violence and all of this stuff.

00:09:35.000 And then they go, well, maybe we'll impeach him now and that'll purge him.

00:09:38.000 The problem is that the 74 million people who voted for Donald Trump, the vast,

00:09:44.000 vast, vast majority still really, really like Donald Trump.

00:09:47.000 And the core of it is that they like his policies better than the neocon policies

00:09:54.000 that what he stood for, and I like some of it, not all of it don't like the job

00:10:00.000 he did as a president, but if somebody gets up there and gives a Jeb Bush policy,

00:10:05.000 this is what we need to do.

00:10:06.000 We need to invade every country in the middle East, have wide open borders, 1.00

00:10:10.000 bail out banks, whatever, you know what I mean?

00:10:12.000 Like the Bush.

00:10:13.000 Well, here's the best part.

00:10:14.000 The Republicans are, I guess, doing everything in their power to figure out how to never win again.

00:10:17.000 Yeah.

00:10:18.000 Because we have this story from CNN Politics.

00:10:19.000 relook at some of these trade deals, make sure it works for America and we're not outsourcing

00:10:23.000 jobs that is enormously more popular amongst the Republican base and they can't purge that.

00:10:29.000 Well here's the best part. The Republicans are I guess doing everything in their power

00:10:33.000 to figure out how to never win again. Yeah. Because we have this story from CNN politics.

00:10:37.000 Liz Cheney, number three House Republican to vote to impeach Trump. You know look, if

00:10:44.000 they think this is going to win for them, I don't know what to tell them.

00:10:48.000 Because poll after poll, even all the polls that were wrong, consistently show Trump has the overwhelming majority.

00:10:54.000 And I don't mean like 70%, I mean 90 to 95% of the Republican Party supports the president.

00:11:01.000 Now here's where I find something really interesting.

00:11:03.000 Not that I trust the New York Times too much, But Jonathan Martin says, a Senate Republican aide tells me he thinks there were about 20, give or take, Republicans who were open to a conviction before our story on McConnell.

00:11:18.000 Will that be enough to actually get to 67 senators?

00:11:22.000 I don't think so.

00:11:23.000 I don't think these people want to end their careers right now or get primaried because they would.

00:11:28.000 You know, any Republican senator who comes out in favor of impeaching Trump, first of all, it's not going to do anything.

00:11:34.000 I mean, what?

00:11:34.000 Pence becomes president for two days and then Joe Biden is the 47th president.

00:11:39.000 And then it's ridiculous.

00:11:41.000 Maybe they'll impeach him after he leaves, I guess. 0.79

00:11:43.000 Sure.

00:11:44.000 Well the Daily Mail actually just started a countdown with the days left to have Donald Trump in office and it's I think it's at 183 hours right now and when we look at a lot of these calls we're seeing John Bolton, Liz Cheney, Mitch McConnell.

00:12:00.000 Not really the best of the best taking the front leadership when it comes to calling for impeachment.

00:12:06.000 And again, they're specifically trying to get him for, quote, incitement of insurrection.

00:12:11.000 Donald Trump made some very strong statements against that today.

00:12:14.000 But we pretty much see the establishment trying to purge, as Mitch McConnell was alluding to, Donald Trump from the Republican Party.

00:12:21.000 I think that was someone familiar with his thinking.

00:12:24.000 Okay.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, no, no, for real, for real.

00:12:26.000 Business Insider says McConnell thinks Trump being impeached and then potentially convicted, announced it from office by the U.S.

00:12:31.000 Senate, quote, will make it easier to purge him from the party, The Times said, citing people familiar with his thinking.

00:12:38.000 They have attributed this quote or this idea to McConnell that he never said.

00:12:43.000 These people are... Wow. 0.91

00:12:44.000 The media in this country is psychotic. 0.94

00:12:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:47.000 That is the most insane trash I've ever heard. 1.00

00:12:50.000 But you know what? 1.00

00:12:51.000 This is what it's been for... I mean, it's been this way for a real long time, and it's only getting worse.

00:12:55.000 Well, it's so hard sometimes.

00:12:56.000 I've felt this way for the last four years, where I just want... Like, even if I have something I really want to criticize Trump on, and I'm like, I think he did such a terrible job with this, then all of his critics are so insane that you end up spending most of your time being like, okay, no, I'm sorry.

00:13:11.000 Right, right, right.

00:13:12.000 He's not a Russian agent, OK?

00:13:15.000 But then there's legitimate issues like Yemen, like the crazy spending that he did, weapons deal with Saudi Arabia that have to be addressed against Donald Trump.

00:13:23.000 But guess what?

00:13:24.000 We're not talking about those legitimate issues that actually could change policies.

00:13:27.000 We're talking about if he was a Russian agent based off no evidence at all.

00:13:30.000 Yes, but you know what?

00:13:31.000 But you're right.

00:13:32.000 And the truth is, right?

00:13:33.000 Donald Trump should be tried for war crimes for what he did with the Saudi government to the people of Yemen.

00:13:39.000 He should be tried and end up sitting in a jail cell after a trial next to George W. Bush and Barack Obama for the rest of their lives.

00:13:47.000 I mean, it's just awful.

00:13:48.000 You're talking about the mass slaughter, starvation of hundreds of thousands of women and children.

00:13:54.000 Not only that, the worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now.

00:13:59.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, In other words, the United States of America and their propped-up regime in Saudi Arabia put a full blockade around what was already the poorest country in the Middle East.

00:14:29.000 The United Nations called it the number one humanitarian crisis in the world.

00:14:32.000 I'm sure you could make an argument with a few other really bad situations, but it is.

00:14:37.000 People should go to jail.

00:14:39.000 Somebody actually commented right when we started that they believe Trump was the greatest president of our lives, but

00:14:45.000 should be tried for war crimes. Both are true. 1.00

00:14:46.000 It's interesting.

00:14:47.000 That's an interesting take.

00:14:49.000 But it could be a statement about the past presidents we've had and the horrifying things they've done.

00:14:53.000 Well, he's definitely, he's not as bad as Bush or Obama.

00:14:58.000 But that's not setting a big bar there.

00:15:00.000 No, it's not.

00:15:00.000 That's a very low bar with a lot of war criminals with a lot of crimes that had so many people suffering from it.

00:15:06.000 And another thing to really consider here, there's even Associated Press articles and investigations that looked into how this Saudi-U.S.

00:15:14.000 coalition was working with al-Qaeda and Sunni rebel groups inside of Yemen to go after the Houthi Iranian-backed rebels in that country.

00:15:23.000 It's pretty much a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

00:15:26.000 The United States is on the side of Saudi Arabia, and they're doing some god-awful things behind al-Qaeda. 0.82

00:15:32.000 And again, this is something that even the Associated Press admits and talks about through their own investigations.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, if you could imagine, right, and I know like you like got like kind of made your bones in like the post 9-11 Yeah, you know world, but could you imagine right even with

00:15:47.000 all of the opposition to the terror wars which deserved all of it? 0.79

00:15:51.000 They were absolutely horrible but that you would say like if I could have grabbed you in

00:15:55.000 2005 and told you that in 2020 in 2021 that America would be fighting on the side of

00:16:02.000 Saudi Arabia and al-qaeda in in Yemen that we would be that Barack Obama and

00:16:09.000 John Brennan and the CIA and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Israel would be arming al-qaeda in Iraq and arming 0.59

00:16:16.000 Isis that now we've actually transitioned the war on terror to the war for terror is

00:16:22.000 It would have made Americans heads explode I don't I don't think so.

00:16:26.000 I think that have been like sounds about right.

00:16:28.000 And I think what would have made their heads explode is if you said and it was coming off of a Donald Trump presidency.

00:16:33.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 That might have been their heads would go.

00:16:35.000 That's still not as bad as what Bush and Obama did, because Trump didn't start any new wars.

00:16:41.000 So we still have to admit that.

00:16:42.000 Let's be honest, it's not as bad as what Biden will do.

00:16:45.000 Yes.

00:16:46.000 Quite possibly.

00:16:47.000 I mean, we had on China Uncensored, they talked about some of the people that Biden's bringing on have praised China and defended them in some of their horrific actions in the South China Sea.

00:16:57.000 argued specifically that a China rise is good for the global economy and we need 0.89

00:17:01.000 to not stand in the way of China becoming the world hegemonic power.

00:17:04.000 That's literally officials that are in the State Department under Joe Biden

00:17:08.000 that are coming in right now that are gonna be setting policies and as we were

00:17:12.000 saying the people of Taiwan and I said this right after the election are the

00:17:15.000 biggest losers of this presidential. So let me ask you guys then how much of

00:17:21.000 what was going on with Saudi Arabia I mean this this was going on with Brennan.

00:17:24.000 This was going on in the Obama administration.

00:17:25.000 Yeah, this started under Obama.

00:17:27.000 So is this... Excuse me, the war in Yemen started under Obama.

00:17:31.000 The relationship with Saudi Arabia goes back to the 70s.

00:17:33.000 Yeah, it goes back to Henry Kissinger literally going to Saudi Arabia and arguing for the larger petrodollar on the world state.

00:17:39.000 So Henry Kissinger, again, hands in China, hands in right-wing dictatorships, left-wing dictatorships, and also establishing Saudi Arabia as the global hegemonic power in the Middle East.

00:17:50.000 And can I just say, because you added that part, and then I have to, and you're absolutely

00:17:54.000 right, and then I have to just add the part about that is that basically what happened

00:17:57.000 was after World War II, we entered into the Bretton Woods monetary system, right, where

00:18:02.000 gold was, we were on a gold standard at $35 an ounce, and basically everyone else was

00:18:07.000 on a dollar standard, because we had all the gold after World War II, because everyone

00:18:10.000 else was destroyed and we had all of it.

00:18:12.000 So the deal was, don't worry, you can back your currency with dollars, and that's as

00:18:16.000 good as gold, because you can trade that in for gold anytime you want.

00:18:19.000 And then we cheated, and we had the Federal Reserve printing tons of money, and other

00:18:23.000 people started to sniff this out, because basically we were going to the moon and fighting

00:18:27.000 a war in Vietnam and doing the Great Society, and other countries were like, wait a minute,

00:18:32.000 I don't think you actually have the gold for this.

00:18:34.000 And England and France, I believe it was, called our bluff.

00:18:37.000 And they said, okay, we're returning all of our dollars, we want our gold.

00:18:41.000 And then in 71, Nixon, basically the first great default of American debt said, no, we're not giving it to you.

00:18:50.000 And you know, they spun it in this like, you know, They're trying to undermine the sovereignty of the dollar thing, but really it was like that we were cheating and we didn't have any of it.

00:18:57.000 So then our money was backed by nothing.

00:19:00.000 So following that, this was Kissinger's move to go, we'll back it with oil.

00:19:05.000 And then basically you still have some type of commodity standard.

00:19:08.000 And then he went to Saudi Arabia.

00:19:09.000 But it's essentially backed by our guns and our military technology.

00:19:13.000 The military-industrial complex.

00:19:14.000 Because you look at what, you know, Saddam Hussein, didn't he want to get off the dollar for oil? 0.78

00:19:19.000 He did.

00:19:20.000 Gaddafi did.

00:19:21.000 A whole bunch of them.

00:19:22.000 They all find themselves on the wrong side of these wars if they don't want to play ball with the petro stick. Yep

00:19:26.000 well, so I wonder how much of What happened during trump's presidency with saudi arabia

00:19:32.000 and yemen was him inheriting the problems of the previous administrations?

00:19:36.000 He didn't start any new wars He didn't start any new wars.

00:19:40.000 He deserves credit for that, for sure.

00:19:41.000 He flirted and got dangerously close in Venezuela and Iran.

00:19:44.000 Ryan, you think, to like, he didn't start any new wars.

00:19:48.000 He deserves credit for that for sure.

00:19:50.000 He flirted and got dangerously close in Venezuela and around Iran, but didn't.

00:19:56.000 And to his credit could have.

00:19:57.000 And there were a lot of people around him who wanted those words.

00:20:00.000 I mean, Bolton was the national security adviser when that stuff with Iran was going.

00:20:03.000 It was the only time the mainstream media praised him.

00:20:06.000 Oh, he actually stopped criticizing 20, 24, 7 nonstop.

00:20:09.000 And they're like, he's a great.

00:20:10.000 He's a great president He's showing real leadership Brian Williams was literally family-friendly show Releasing liquids from his pants area when he saw the missiles flying over into Syria beautiful He called it an amazing beautiful sign of democracy Democracy and freedom.

00:20:25.000 That's what they wanted.

00:20:26.000 That's what would save Trump. 0.76

00:20:27.000 If Trump was like, I'll blow up who you tell me to. 0.78

00:20:30.000 That's right.

00:20:30.000 But Trump could have played it one of two ways, and he just sat in the middle and failed.

00:20:36.000 So he could have fought another war, and they would have all loved him.

00:20:40.000 And if he had started another war or two, the establishment would have rallied around him, CNN would have backed him, because that's how sick these people are.

00:20:48.000 Think about it.

00:20:49.000 accused him of treason when he met with Putin and said, hey, let's be friends.

00:20:53.000 Let's be let's have the two countries who have 90 percent of the nuclear weapons in 0.97

00:20:56.000 the world.

00:20:57.000 Let's have some detente here.

00:20:58.000 Let's be friends.

00:20:59.000 That to them is treason. 0.77

00:21:00.000 Bombing people in third world countries. 1.00

00:21:03.000 That's a great president. 0.53

00:21:04.000 So he could have done that and won them.

00:21:06.000 Or he could have ended every last one of these wars and won the American people.

00:21:09.000 And he did nothing.

00:21:10.000 He sat in the middle and he lost.

00:21:12.000 Exactly.

00:21:13.000 And you know what the issue for the media was, in my opinion?

00:21:16.000 If it bleeds, it leads.

00:21:17.000 Pictures of bombs, war, is shocking content that they can sell.

00:21:22.000 On a slow news day, you turn on these channels and they give you nothing.

00:21:26.000 I remember watching segments of like Anderson Cooper standing in mud and he's like, it's raining here in this part of the country, and I'm like, their ratings are probably in the gutter.

00:21:33.000 Yeah.

00:21:33.000 But when they get that war and that shock footage and they say it's a crisis and oh, and they try and sell it.

00:21:39.000 Trump wasn't giving him, giving the media, their bloodlust.

00:21:43.000 There's a lot of other things.

00:21:44.000 There's a political influence, a lot of these networks.

00:21:46.000 Well, yeah, I mean, half of their staff are former CIA, former NSA, former military industrial complex of some... They gave all the Russiagators... If anyone wants to see bloodlust and suffering, all they have to do is go to Yemen. 0.68

00:21:58.000 Right. So they had that option to highlight that.

00:22:01.000 Yeah. Well, they weren't interested in it because that would have been an indictment

00:22:05.000 of all of them in the entire system that they prop up.

00:22:08.000 Think about what we saw under Obama with extrajudicial assassinations. How much of this, when they

00:22:14.000 reported on the war and the conflict, were they criticizing Obama for it? And how much

00:22:18.000 of it was it was general coverage? You look at the refugee crisis, which was huge news

00:22:23.000 a couple of years ago, mostly with the Eastern Mediterranean route. These are people coming 1.00

00:22:26.000 from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. And that was the fault of George W. Bush and Barack

00:22:31.000 Obama. And the context of it all was general news coverage.

00:22:36.000 When it comes to Donald Trump, the dude could, you know, step on a twig and it would crack, and they'd all start shrieking at the top of their lungs.

00:22:43.000 And you don't think it is.

00:22:44.000 They needed to replace that bloodlust with something.

00:22:48.000 And because Trump wasn't giving them what they wanted, both politically and in the ratings, They turned it into him.

00:22:54.000 They found a way to weaponize it, finally.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, no, I think you're right about that.

00:22:57.000 But I also think that what Donald Trump, just by his very nature, represented was the refutation of the whole system.

00:23:08.000 And that that, in a way, was a threat to them.

00:23:10.000 And also the fact that they told everyone, well, look, we've laid out these rules.

00:23:13.000 We represent the American people.

00:23:14.000 We know what they think.

00:23:15.000 They'll never vote for this guy.

00:23:16.000 And then they voted for this guy.

00:23:18.000 And now they all look bad because they told you this couldn't possibly happen.

00:23:21.000 And the truth is, it's like this whole thing man, it's like...

00:23:25.000 It's still like levels of irony and tragedy.

00:23:28.000 It's something, it's like a Greek tragedy that the country so hated Clinton, Bush, Obama establishment.

00:23:37.000 They failed so much of the country.

00:23:39.000 They squandered the greatest country on earth. 0.98

00:23:41.000 But the only thing we had that could actually beat them was Donald freaking Trump. 0.77

00:23:47.000 And we, everyone wanted him to be something else. 0.96

00:23:49.000 Like the left wanted him to be Hitler.

00:23:51.000 The right wanted him to be the Caesar.

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 And he's just Donald.

00:23:55.000 Trump.

00:23:55.000 Well, so so I think it was Cernovich who said, you know, like so the left wants him to be Hitler

00:23:59.000 The right wants him to be Caesar and Cernovich said he's a Kardashian

00:24:02.000 The people Looked at what they were given and they said I'll take

00:24:09.000 Donald Trump. Think about what that means now I've long said the way I view the Trump presidency and why

00:24:14.000 I thought it made more sense to support him was that you have

00:24:18.000 the ivory tower You have the establishment elites

00:24:21.000 Looking down and scoffing and laughing at the little people as they use the working-class people's children as cannon

00:24:27.000 fodder Mm-hmm, and they're laughing

00:24:29.000 And then along comes Bernie Sanders, left populist, and Donald Trump, right populist, and they're banging on the doors.

00:24:36.000 Well, they said, hey Bernie.

00:24:38.000 Come on up.

00:24:39.000 Don't worry, we'll be nice to you.

00:24:40.000 And he goes like, oh gee, they're letting me in, hoo hoo!

00:24:41.000 And then he joins on in.

00:24:43.000 The Trump people broke the door down.

00:24:45.000 Trump storms in and he's like a raging bull, knocking things over, flipping tables, screaming at everybody, and they were freaking out.

00:24:52.000 Oh heavens, oh!

00:24:53.000 And they're fanning themselves and running from the tower.

00:24:56.000 And then they desperately needed to get it back.

00:24:58.000 So I look at the Trump presidency as fairly chaotic.

00:25:01.000 We had a really, really great economy in 2019.

00:25:03.000 The best numbers of our lives.

00:25:05.000 And I said this on a previous episode.

00:25:07.000 Well, I asked.

00:25:07.000 I think I asked Luke to try and coax him into saying it.

00:25:10.000 Isn't Trump our greatest president of our lifetimes?

00:25:13.000 And I'm like... But when you look at no new wars, and you at least look at the attempts to withdraw our troops from some of these places, it is far from perfect.

00:25:22.000 But you look at Clinton, Bush, and Obama, So he's half as bad as the other ones, or he's half as good as he promised to be.

00:25:31.000 But again, it's still... I think you brought up a good point.

00:25:35.000 You bring up the bull analogy, but they also contained him in the lower level, so he couldn't get anywhere else up.

00:25:40.000 And he raged, but he raged in the gift shop.

00:25:44.000 He didn't rage in the actual positions that actually mattered.

00:25:48.000 And in my opinion, he kind of just put the establishment at half pace.

00:25:53.000 of where they were going anywhere.

00:25:54.000 He held them back.

00:25:55.000 And he held them back halfway, but the establishment was still moving in fairly close with him, and now they're going to go full steam ahead with Joe Biden.

00:26:03.000 And I do think there's going to be new conflicts engaged all throughout the world, specifically also around Russia.

00:26:10.000 They're going to try to kind of... Also, they're going to bump heads with China, but I think Biden has too many ties to China to actually do anything legitimate.

00:26:18.000 China's going to expand its territory.

00:26:20.000 I think it's very fair to say that.

00:26:22.000 But they're going to be butting heads very seriously in other places in the world like Ukraine, Syria.

00:26:29.000 Who knows?

00:26:29.000 Turkey is also a very hot location that's in conflict with Greece right now.

00:26:34.000 So there's a lot of potential for conflict all over the world stage.

00:26:38.000 And I think a Biden administration is going to exploit that to the fullest extent because he has the top echelons of the military-industrial complex in his cabinet, in his administration.

00:26:48.000 And you know, at the end of the day, they're the ones who are going to be calling the shots.

00:26:52.000 And they do call the shots.

00:26:53.000 I have to wonder about all of these people who constantly think there's this grand plan.

00:26:58.000 You know, like not necessarily the Q people, but the periphery to them as well, that are like, I can see what's happening.

00:27:04.000 There are comments I see pop up where they're like, you know, Trump didn't really concede.

00:27:09.000 He said a new administration, which means he's replacing Pence.

00:27:11.000 And it's like, dude, like Trump, I thought was way better than Hillary Clinton.

00:27:16.000 It's not hard to be way better than Hillary Clinton. 0.98

00:27:18.000 She was awful. 0.98

00:27:19.000 Like, one of the worst politicians to ever run. 0.99

00:27:22.000 And just this demanding and sickly individual. 0.97

00:27:25.000 And she wanted it.

00:27:26.000 And we had our choice between the establishment over and over and over again.

00:27:30.000 And there was an opportunity for a Trump.

00:27:31.000 And he managed to pull it off.

00:27:33.000 Well, I mean, look.

00:27:33.000 Trump is far from perfect.

00:27:35.000 Oh, no.

00:27:35.000 Far from perfect.

00:27:36.000 But whatever criticism you could launch at Trump, and there's a lot, Donald Trump Yeah.

00:27:43.000 Greatest president of our generation.

00:27:45.000 Bush or Clinton and for that alone for that alone he should be saluted just

00:27:51.000 for beating the Bush's and the Clintons and destroying those two evil you know

00:27:55.000 like family organizations criminal organizations and look I'll say this

00:28:01.000 I think Barack Obama was an absolutely horrible president, but you know what?

00:28:04.000 Because of him, John McCain wasn't president.

00:28:06.000 And oh my God, if you want to see a disaster, let John McCain have access to be the commander-in-chief of the military.

00:28:14.000 I mean, we'd probably be in five more wars if he had been there.

00:28:17.000 Obama did pretty much get us in five more, but still.

00:28:20.000 This is the main problem, though.

00:28:22.000 I think Trump I think Trump operated in a good faith when he got in.

00:28:26.000 He thought that he was president now and, you know, people were going to listen to him and that he was going to have control and get to do the things that he wanted, fulfill his promises, end these wars, and he didn't realize he was walking into a gigantic machine all gummed up with bureaucracy and red tape.

00:28:40.000 OK, but that's on him.

00:28:41.000 No, of course.

00:28:42.000 I'm not saying it's not.

00:28:43.000 No, but the problem with Donald Trump, OK, is that he doesn't know anything about anything.

00:28:50.000 There's not one thing he's ever read a book about that knows something about it.

00:28:56.000 He's got instincts.

00:28:57.000 He's instinctually brilliant in many ways.

00:28:59.000 But, dude, he banned critical race theory being, like, taught to the military and in government organizations.

00:29:05.000 And through contracts.

00:29:06.000 Because three months ago he was watching Fox News And saw a thing about critical race theory and went, what's this critical race theory thing? 1.00

00:29:14.000 That sounds stupid. 1.00

00:29:15.000 Let's stop doing it. 1.00

00:29:16.000 He had no clue what it was up until that point.

00:29:19.000 So that's the problem.

00:29:21.000 And at the debate he couldn't define it.

00:29:22.000 Yeah.

00:29:23.000 I'll take it.

00:29:24.000 Yeah, well look, I agree, it's still better than nothing, but it's kind of like, but dude, to rise to the level, to actually do what he could have done, the person he could have been in history, he needed to know like three things, and he knew nothing.

00:29:38.000 I think it's obviously hyperbole, he doesn't know anything.

00:29:41.000 I think the dude's clearly successful, became president, he's very rich, and the problem was he entered government thinking it would work like a business.

00:29:48.000 He thought he could just fire people.

00:29:49.000 He couldn't do it.

00:29:50.000 He surrounded it.

00:29:51.000 He hired bad people.

00:29:52.000 And the one thing he was famous for firing people, he didn't do enough of.

00:29:55.000 He hired people and fired his own people when he should have been firing all these holdovers who are going behind his back, leaking information and sabotaging everything.

00:30:03.000 He overspent.

00:30:04.000 That's another thing.

00:30:05.000 He was running it like a business that the business is gravely in debt right now that our children's children are going to be paying for and also when you look at the people he surrounded himself with the ones that he took advice from I mean Jared Kushner the one who negotiated better weapons deals for Saudi Arabia Ivanka the lady who cried about the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria that many investigations proved not to be true that convinced him to bomb Syria according to Trump's son who admitted that this happened I mean, come on.

00:30:37.000 Now, I gotta say though, I gotta say, you're doing a lot of ragging on the guy.

00:30:39.000 The Abraham Accords are amazing.

00:30:41.000 You don't think so?

00:30:43.000 No, fair enough.

00:30:44.000 I would just say, I was actually going to defend him in that moment too, that I will say that one defense I'll give to Donald Trump for putting his family in these positions that they were not in any way qualified to be is that He really had no one he could trust.

00:30:56.000 And they did try to frame the guy for treason for three years.

00:30:59.000 And he had the entire Deep State working against him.

00:31:01.000 So I think he did want his family there because he's like, OK, well, at least Ivanka is not going to, like, be setting me up for, you know, like... She set him up to bomb Syria.

00:31:10.000 But look, for all the issues, too, Jared Kushner helped negotiate these historic peace agreements.

00:31:15.000 Yeah.

00:31:16.000 Look, when- I think the peace agreements, to be honest, I like the sound of it.

00:31:20.000 I think they're kind of overplayed.

00:31:21.000 There's not really any meaningful peace between people who were not already allies.

00:31:27.000 It's like, okay, you can make- Well, there's normalization of economies, new flights.

00:31:31.000 Now planes from one Arabic country can fly over Israel.

00:31:35.000 Look, it's not an easy process.

00:31:37.000 So I remember when Donald Trump crossed the DMZ into North Korea, and he was heavily criticized for it.

00:31:42.000 And he said all he was doing was endangering the country and negotiating with a dictator.

00:31:45.000 And I'm like, dude, negotiations have to start somewhere.

00:31:49.000 If we get Bahrain and the Emirates, and now you've got Morocco, and they're normalizing relations, that's the first step.

00:31:59.000 Listen, I agree.

00:32:01.000 And that's more than I can say for Obama.

00:32:03.000 Listen, you're absolutely right about the North Korea stuff. 0.65

00:32:06.000 It was great that he did that.

00:32:07.000 It was amazing.

00:32:08.000 It was a great first step.

00:32:09.000 And what happened with those trade negotiations? 1.00

00:32:12.000 This idiot made John Bolton the national security advisor and sent him over there to blow the whole thing. 1.00

00:32:20.000 And John Bolton sabotaged it. 1.00

00:32:21.000 And that is on Trump.

00:32:26.000 Who in their right mind would put this guy as a national security advisor?

00:32:30.000 But this is another thing that people really need to think about.

00:32:32.000 Donald Trump set up a peace deal that was almost identical to the same Iranian peace deal that he wanted North Korea to have.

00:32:39.000 So he ended one peace deal and he wanted another one that he unsuccessfully didn't get.

00:32:43.000 And we're going to have a Biden administration that's going to do the opposite.

00:32:46.000 And it's like, they're playing with us.

00:32:47.000 They're toying with us.

00:32:48.000 You know, look over here.

00:32:50.000 But on the other end, they commit something else.

00:32:52.000 As we can clearly see from these reports, assuming the Mitch McConnell one is true, Trump trusted way too many Republicans, thinking that they were going to work with him.

00:33:00.000 And what they wanted was judges, and then they gave him bad info, bad people, and they just were waiting him out.

00:33:06.000 And now I do believe they want to purge him and all of his supporters.

00:33:10.000 But like you said, the people still love the man.

00:33:13.000 And I think, you know why?

00:33:14.000 I think when you listen to him, I think Trump does want to help people.

00:33:19.000 I just don't think he understands how government works.

00:33:22.000 Yeah, you might be right. I don't actually know what he wants. And I got to say,

00:33:25.000 I'm starting to think more and more that he really just wants to help himself. But I will say that

00:33:32.000 the Donald Trump looked at an entire group of Americans who are just absolutely despised

00:33:40.000 by the ruling elite. I mean, they hate these people. You don't have to watch CNN for more

00:33:44.000 than 10 minutes to just gauge what they think of the average Trump supporter. They hate these people.

00:33:50.000 They lecture them all day long.

00:33:51.000 They don't care.

00:33:52.000 As you pointed out, they use their kids as cannon fodder.

00:33:55.000 They don't care that there's a drug.

00:33:57.000 They barely even ever report on the drug ODs, on the suicide rate, on the life expectancy

00:34:01.000 going down.

00:34:02.000 These people have been completely screwed over by the empire, just completely forgot

00:34:07.000 about.

00:34:08.000 And Donald Trump looked at those people and said, you know what?

00:34:11.000 I care about you.

00:34:12.000 I want to bring your jobs back.

00:34:14.000 I want to win for you.

00:34:15.000 And that was enough.

00:34:16.000 That was all it took because no one had ever talked to those kids before.

00:34:20.000 It was like someone showing the ugly girl in high school a little bit of attention and she was like, I love you.

00:34:26.000 I don't mean to insult anybody.

00:34:30.000 I think I just alienated Trump supporters and women.

00:34:34.000 I think I lost.

00:34:34.000 I don't know who's left.

00:34:36.000 But I'm just making the point that he just didn't hate them.

00:34:39.000 You know, you'd see these pieces on CNN where they'd be like, why do these evangelicals support Donald Trump?

00:34:45.000 And kind of on the surface, you could see what they're talking about.

00:34:48.000 I mean, clearly the guy's not a devout Christian.

00:34:52.000 You know why they support him?

00:34:53.000 Because he doesn't hate their guts, and you do!

00:34:57.000 He eats steak with ketchup.

00:35:00.000 Michael Moore made those same exact points that you're making right now.

00:35:03.000 This is my favorite story.

00:35:06.000 I remember when Donald Trump went to this fancy restaurant and he ordered this 30-day dry-aged steak, super fancy and expensive, well done, with ketchup.

00:35:14.000 And I watched the media mock and laugh.

00:35:18.000 And you know why that was so brilliant on Trump's part?

00:35:20.000 Do you know what regular Americans saw when they watched those segments?

00:35:24.000 They weren't mocking and laughing at Trump. 0.99

00:35:25.000 They were mocking and laughing at you, the regular working-class American who's got only a couple bucks to buy that garbage steak from the supermarket, that you cook it all the way through and you put ketchup on it because it tastes like crap. 0.99

00:35:37.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:35:37.000 So I remember when I was growing up, guess what? 0.98

00:35:39.000 For the most part, yeah, we'd get, you know, grocery store cuts for a couple bucks, we'd cook them well, we'd put ketchup on it because we weren't rich.

00:35:47.000 Every so often we'd save up and my dad would come back with a filet mignon and be like, this is the good stuff.

00:35:52.000 And he'd put a little garlic and salt on it and we just ate it like it was and it was so amazing.

00:35:56.000 And so I knew when I saw that story.

00:35:58.000 What Trump was doing, whether he's all about expensive, well-done steaks with ketchup, or he knew, I'm gonna speak to these people who have been kicked to the curb and insulted.

00:36:07.000 And the media walked right into it.

00:36:09.000 You know what it really comes down to for me?

00:36:12.000 The media is despicable.

00:36:14.000 It is the press in this country. 0.86

00:36:16.000 It is lies all day and every day.

00:36:17.000 And I grew up with the war in Iraq, the lies from the media, this blind trust of government.

00:36:26.000 And it got us into these wars, and there was no accountability for these people, many of whom are still working, these politicians who voted for it still in office after 47 years.

00:36:34.000 And that's why I say it's kind of funny to say that Donald Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime, because he didn't vote for these things.

00:36:41.000 He spoke out against them in his book.

00:36:43.000 He did really poorly in hiring, and he fumbled a lot, but he spoke to the people.

00:36:49.000 He did a lot more than these elites did.

00:36:50.000 He banned critical race theory, whether he knew about it or not.

00:36:53.000 I liked it.

00:36:53.000 And it was only in the past year or so when I was like, I like what I'm seeing right now.

00:36:57.000 I like the attempts at least to mock the establishment.

00:37:01.000 You know what I really like?

00:37:02.000 I'm with you completely on that.

00:37:03.000 That was a great gift that he gave us.

00:37:05.000 Just relentlessly mocking the corporate press.

00:37:08.000 You ever see the moment where he comes out and he's like, you know, by the helicopter and the press all asking him questions and he's like, We got a really great deal!

00:37:16.000 Saudi Arabia's giving us billions of dollars for all these weapons!

00:37:20.000 And the anti-war left, their jaws hit the floor like, he just comes out and says, you're not supposed to admit this, it's supposed to be, we're here to support, you know, security and peace, and Trump's like, we're getting great money, it's great for the economy!

00:37:33.000 And then when it came to Syria, when we left troops there to guard the oil fields, He just comes out and says it.

00:37:39.000 He's like, you know, we tried to get the troops out of Syria, but I guess they got mad at me, so we just left him there.

00:37:43.000 They're guarding the oil, that's what they wanted.

00:37:45.000 And I'm just like, tell the people!

00:37:48.000 But I think that's a big part of the reason why he was so despised, is that he is this guy that just is uncontrollable, and he blurts things out.

00:37:58.000 Donald Trump can't keep a secret if he wanted to.

00:38:00.000 That's why we know there's no aliens.

00:38:02.000 But it's also why it scared the bejesus out of all of these people. 0.97

00:38:09.000 People wonder why John Brennan, for example, hated Donald Trump.

00:38:13.000 You ever hear John Brennan on TV?

00:38:14.000 You can tell it is a personal hatred that he has for Donald Trump.

00:38:18.000 Well, listen.

00:38:20.000 Donald Trump, when he was running in 2016, just blurted out, okay, that Obama armed ISIS and created that.

00:38:29.000 Now, he just blurts this out.

00:38:30.000 He's just like, you know, Obama created ISIS.

00:38:32.000 That was all Obama. 0.80

00:38:33.000 And they're like, what are you talking about?

00:38:35.000 You can't say that.

00:38:36.000 And he goes, no, no, no, Obama created ISIS.

00:38:38.000 And Saudi Arabia did 9-11. 0.88

00:38:40.000 He also blamed them for 9-11.

00:38:42.000 And he said he was going to end the Federal Reserve.

00:38:44.000 No, he said a lot of these things.

00:38:45.000 Now, John Brennan, Yeah.

00:38:47.000 was the head of the CIA while they were knowingly arming al-Qaeda in Iraq, also known as treason,

00:38:55.000 with a capital T. These are crimes that if you were prosecuted for, the punishment for

00:39:01.000 treason, I believe last I checked, is death. So Trump is just out there blurting it out,

00:39:07.000 and to Trump he's like, I just said it, now I move on and now I'm going to talk about

00:39:09.000 how great my crowd sizes are.

00:39:10.000 And he brings Flynn on.

00:39:11.000 But Brennan's sitting there like, what did you just say?

00:39:14.000 You're not supposed to say this!

00:39:16.000 And, like, people who talk about this are like, like, I talk about this, you talk about this and stuff, but the President of the United States with his 70 million adoring voters don't just mention this.

00:39:27.000 And before that, it was totally ignored.

00:39:28.000 I mean, we had whistleblowers, we had government agents, we had insiders, we had people on the ground that were confirming, showing videos, showing photos, showing documents of U.S.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.000 arms munitions weapons trucks going directly into the ...

00:39:43.000 hands of Isis Al Nusra and Al Qaeda inside of Syria to do ...

00:39:46.000 regime change and and this was proven but this was only ...

00:39:50.000 talked about in the alternative press until Michael Flynn.

00:39:54.000 Actually whistleblowed and released a lot of the ...

00:39:58.000 information Michael Flynn of course was brought in by ...

00:40:01.000 Donald Trump and Donald Trump was saying this on the public ...

00:40:05.000 air and then we know what happened to Michael Flynn ...

00:40:09.000 and this is where the Russian narrative comes in ...

00:40:12.000 must be doing this because he's trying to undermine and ...

00:40:14.000 But it was, look, because a lot of people look at it on the surface and they go, oh well, but it failed because they

00:40:20.000 didn't get him, you know, they got nothing off the Mueller report.

00:40:22.000 There was no one went to jail for it.

00:40:23.000 But no, it worked.

00:40:24.000 Right.

00:40:25.000 They boxed him in for three years.

00:40:26.000 So Donald Trump was running on, look, let's make a deal with Russia.

00:40:31.000 That way, we both have a common enemy in ISIS.

00:40:33.000 Who cares if Assad is the president of Syria?

00:40:37.000 Like, whatever, we'll just leave him there. 0.86

00:40:38.000 It's worse when we overthrow these guys anyway.

00:40:41.000 So we'll make a deal.

00:40:41.000 We'll make a deal with Russia.

00:40:43.000 We'll get out of Syria. 1.00

00:40:44.000 And then, after hearing nothing but Trump-Russia collusion on repeat every day for years, well now Trump can't make a deal with Russia.

00:40:52.000 Because if he went and made a deal with Russia, well then that's proof that he's colluding with Russia.

00:40:57.000 It works perfectly.

00:40:59.000 And it's all about the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:41:01.000 No, I shouldn't say all about.

00:41:02.000 It's a large component.

00:41:03.000 Are you familiar with it?

00:41:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:04.000 I've read a little bit about it.

00:41:05.000 So there was a report from The Guardian going back to, I think, 2012, where they said that a report in 2009 from the U.S.

00:41:13.000 said that we wanted to have boots on the ground in Syria because Bashar al-Assad was blocking our access to building this pipeline.

00:41:20.000 Lo and behold, everything you guys just talked about.

00:41:22.000 Remember that photo of the truck ISIS had and it's got like, you know, what was it, that truck that had the phone number for like a Michigan auto mechanic on it?

00:41:30.000 I was like, how did that truck get there?

00:41:32.000 That's not, that's weird.

00:41:34.000 Did you ever hear the tape?

00:41:38.000 I don't remember.

00:41:38.000 I'm not sure if it was a hot mic or like a secret recording, but there's the tape of John Kerry talking about the rise of ISIS.

00:41:45.000 uh... is really interesting uh... which he's talking about so he comes in

00:41:49.000 i guess in was in two thousand thirteen he became secretary of of state

00:41:53.000 says after hillary clinton left uh... and he's talking about this is kind of you know right

00:41:57.000 as it's happening uh... and he's talking about and he's a just

00:42:00.000 saying quite frankly on the state the i think he doesn't realize is being recorded

00:42:04.000 and he's going up he goes look we saw it We saw the rise of ISIS coming, but we thought we could control it and use it to bring Assad to the negotiating table.

00:42:14.000 So you also, you got to understand with a lot of these things, it's tremendous hubris that they think everyone's their pawns.

00:42:20.000 And then, because look, it was not part of the plan for ISIS to then go invade Iraq, have the Shiite army that we trained bail, strip off their uniforms and hand over all the stockpiled weapons to them. 0.73

00:42:31.000 Yeah.

00:42:31.000 That wasn't part of the plan.

00:42:32.000 So they just think that they can control everybody in the same way that like the Black Lives Matter rioting, 1.00

00:42:38.000 smashing up that CNN building wasn't part of the plan.

00:42:41.000 You're like, wait, you guys weren't supposed to do that.

00:42:43.000 You were supposed to just go over here, but people are not pawns

00:42:46.000 and it's not always easy to control them.

00:42:48.000 So the whole thing just got away from them.

00:42:49.000 Well, they created the cultural situation in Iraq, especially with the second Gulf War, 0.93

00:42:55.000 after they got rid of a lot of the Hussein-Baptist loyalists that they said no longer could serve in the new military.

00:43:03.000 So a lot of those fighters joined up with more radical Sunnis, and they were enabled to start This larger group that later became known as ISIS directly because of policy decisions by the Bush administration, specifically making sure that this protocol was followed. 0.51

00:43:19.000 It led to tremendous amounts of human suffering.

00:43:22.000 I mean, people were tortured on camera with amazing production that was terrifying the entire world.

00:43:31.000 The Western world has been terrified by ISIS.

00:43:33.000 If you start adding up the numbers, we're getting to Hitler-Stalin level numbers. 0.63

00:43:38.000 You're talking a million in Iraq, half a million in Syria, it's gonna be a million in Yemen.

00:43:44.000 One thing I need to bring up here is because we had ISIS literally dominating the headlines. 0.98

00:43:48.000 Everyone was always talking about them.

00:43:50.000 Everyone in the Western world was scared about a terrorist attack happening in their city because of them and their ideas.

00:43:56.000 They had the direct fingerprints of all the upper echelons of the U.S.

00:43:58.000 intelligence agencies, Israel, Saudi Arabia, working with them in cohesion, and then all of that just magically kind of went away under the presidency of Donald Trump, who, from the information I'm getting, stopped funding them.

00:44:12.000 Stopped supporting them.

00:44:13.000 You want to give Trump credit for something?

00:44:15.000 That was one of the first things he did.

00:44:17.000 He ended the CIA program to arm the anti-Assad rebels.

00:44:21.000 And almost immediately after that, ISIS just stopped being a problem.

00:44:25.000 And there was also, and they also fought him.

00:44:27.000 I mean, it was like the Russians were fighting him and our troops were fighting him.

00:44:29.000 Well, the Russians were exposing how they were selling oil, Syrian oil, to Turkey.

00:44:35.000 So let me ask you then, because kind of going back to we're talking about Trump's presidency in this country, do you think that like regular military folk, not the high ranking officers and the political actors, but just like your, you know, rank and file, maybe lower level officers, do you think they all support the president?

00:44:52.000 Yes, I think the vast majority of them do.

00:44:55.000 But you also have to understand, I mean, look, Ron Paul, when he ran in 2008 and 2012, got more money from active duty military than every other candidate combined.

00:45:05.000 Both years.

00:45:06.000 So anybody who's talking about ending these wars is going to get tremendous support from the rank and file.

00:45:12.000 They know way better than us about how crazy these wars are.

00:45:15.000 wars Bush Obama Trump all promised we're gonna end all the wars we're gonna bring

00:45:20.000 all the troops back all of them yeah even George W Bush oh yeah no that's

00:45:23.000 right yeah he's like I'm gonna be a non-interventionist president elect me

00:45:26.000 we're gonna keep America at home and we're gonna make sure America's great

00:45:30.000 let me jump to this next story we'll kind of bring all of this foreign policy

00:45:33.000 stuff back home because we have this report from the Daily Mail joint chiefs

00:45:36.000 send memo to all US troops condemning MAGA riots as sedition after arrest of

00:45:42.000 current and retired officers and spell out that they only follow lawful orders

00:45:47.000 in fresh warning to Trump They say the military's top leaders issued a written reminder to all service members Tuesday that the deadly insurrection at the Capitol was a criminal act.

00:45:56.000 The memo signed by all members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff also reminded military members that Joe Biden was duly elected as the next president.

00:46:03.000 It comes after the arrest of current and retired officers among the rioters.

00:46:08.000 Among the known retired veterans who stormed the Capitol was Ashley Babbitt, a retired Air Force veteran who was shot dead.

00:46:13.000 Retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Rendell Brock Jr., 53, was slapped with federal charges after he was pictured carrying plastic handcuffs in the Capitol during the riot.

00:46:23.000 The Army is also investigating a psychological warfare officer, Captain Emily Rainey, for leading a group of people from North Carolina to the rally.

00:46:31.000 So this I found interesting that it turns out even the uh, the horned viking guy navy veteran Yeah, there were a lot of people there who served and you've also got the oath keepers many of them who have served many of them who are still police officers now clearly support the president and I guess the question is Does the military overwhelmingly support the president?

00:46:51.000 Would they support him, you know, moving forward?

00:46:54.000 Well, that's the big fear.

00:46:55.000 I mean, I'm literally just, as you're reading that, I'm thinking of the, you know, the Smedley-Butler attempted coup.

00:47:00.000 The banker plot.

00:47:01.000 Yeah, that plot.

00:47:02.000 I mean, you know who they were going to use for that was all these veterans from World War I. I mean, that's who, because if you actually wanted, like, what would your big fear be if you were the establishment?

00:47:13.000 And that would be your fear.

00:47:14.000 So you better get that under control.

00:47:16.000 Yeah, and that fear is real because why else would they be sending out a memo to all the branches of the military?

00:47:22.000 Exactly, that's the point.

00:47:23.000 You know, why are they doing this if they're not worried about something or other branches of the military potentially deciding or thinking about doing something?

00:47:33.000 Well, when those polls came out before the election saying that the military overwhelmingly supported Joe Biden, I just didn't believe it.

00:47:41.000 I laughed.

00:47:41.000 I was like, come on.

00:47:43.000 First of all, I've not served.

00:47:49.000 Most of them in my family have in some way been involved in the armed forces.

00:47:53.000 But I did live briefly on a military base.

00:47:55.000 I do know many people.

00:47:56.000 So I don't want to pretend to speak for them.

00:47:58.000 But I kind of feel like the amount of respect they'd have for someone like Biden, who is a career politician, enriched himself off the office and votes for the wars that gets, you know, them sent out.

00:48:08.000 I don't think they're going to be like, that's the guy I pick.

00:48:10.000 And not only that, you look at what Trump says about the troops, what he does for them and how he advocates for them.

00:48:17.000 And I just feel like it makes no sense.

00:48:19.000 So I asked some people, you know, do you think, because there was a statement put out in the Washington Post by all former defense secretaries warning members of the military not to follow Trump's orders.

00:48:31.000 They were like, do not.

00:48:33.000 Well, it was interesting because it's getting close to a military coup when you have these individuals telling the military not to obey Trump if he gives them orders to do something.

00:48:42.000 But they wouldn't, like you were just saying, they wouldn't need to put that statement down in the Washington Post.

00:48:46.000 All former living ex-secretaries of defense saying, don't do this, you will go to prison, this is for you, to Chris Miller of the Pentagon.

00:48:53.000 Now you have the statement where they're saying, to all the members of the military, it was a riot, know it, Joe Biden's president, it's done.

00:49:01.000 Why are they saying it now?

00:49:02.000 That's kind of freaky.

00:49:03.000 Yeah.

00:49:03.000 Why do they need to say it?

00:49:04.000 Well, they're definitely concerned.

00:49:06.000 I mean, this was one of the big things about Donald Trump in general that really, like, scared the establishment.

00:49:12.000 And I think this is the reason why he scares them a lot more than Bernie Sanders does, even though Bernie Sanders did scare them, is that Donald Trump's supporters are just way tougher Like if you had to fist fight a random Bernie Sanders fan

00:49:27.000 or a random Donald Trump fan, you would not for a second, like I mean let's just be real

00:49:31.000 people here, you would immediately go I'll take on three Bernie Sanders fans if I have to

00:49:36.000 fight them rather than one Donald Trump because Donald Trump probably has some barrel chested 0.72

00:49:40.000 minor or something like that who's going to pound you into a bloody mess and Bernie 0.67

00:49:45.000 Sanders is like some gender studies major. 1.00

00:49:48.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:49:49.000 One other point that I wanted to make to your kind of question.

00:49:51.000 Another thing that is really relevant here is that Joe Biden is one of the first presidents

00:49:55.000 that didn't really address the war question at all.

00:49:58.000 He's not anti-war.

00:49:59.000 A lot of people know this.

00:50:01.000 A lot of foreign policy experts are saying he's most likely going to start more conflicts

00:50:05.000 and he's going to have the continued American foreign policy that was just halfway under

00:50:10.000 Donald Trump.

00:50:11.000 Also, during the BLM riots, he took the side of BLM rather than police officers.

00:50:16.000 So a lot of people serving in law enforcement, in the military, know that he's on the side of the radical protesters.

00:50:24.000 He's entering, Joe Biden is entering the presidency with probably the least amount of confidence from our men and women in uniform and law enforcement right now.

00:50:31.000 Well, the few people that we talked to that voted for him all regret voting for him.

00:50:36.000 You know, there's other thought thinkers like Naomi Wolf that are like, why did I vote for him?

00:50:39.000 Thought thinkers?

00:50:40.000 Thought leaders.

00:50:42.000 I'm dyslexic.

00:50:43.000 I'm Polish.

00:50:44.000 I got hit in the head a lot when I was a kid.

00:50:45.000 Naomi Wolf, that was funny.

00:50:48.000 What did she say?

00:50:48.000 If I had known that Joe Biden was in favor of lockdowns, I never would have voted for him.

00:50:52.000 And it's like, he says it all the time.

00:50:55.000 You could have known that.

00:50:56.000 Jeez.

00:50:56.000 Yeah, that's kind of inexcusable to not know that.

00:51:00.000 But you're right.

00:51:01.000 And it's also just that, look, Joe Biden just basically limped out of the primaries.

00:51:08.000 I mean, just kind of survived them and was basically, he almost won it by process of elimination.

00:51:16.000 Like, the establishment basically trotted out all these different people.

00:51:20.000 They were like, hey, everybody get excited about Warren, get excited about Buttigieg, get excited about Kamala Harris.

00:51:26.000 And none of them caught fire.

00:51:27.000 And then Bernie Sanders was doing it.

00:51:29.000 And they were terrified of him.

00:51:30.000 So they were like, he's no deal.

00:51:31.000 And then they threw Bloomberg out there, who just completely fell apart in the debates.

00:51:35.000 And then they were like, OK, I guess all we have left is Biden.

00:51:38.000 They had the coordinated hit.

00:51:40.000 Well, he didn't run.

00:51:41.000 Biden's competition dropped out, Sanders' competition and Warren's stayed in.

00:51:44.000 They got him over the finish line and then he basically ran on being not Trump.

00:51:49.000 Not campaigning.

00:51:50.000 Well, like nothing we've ever seen before.

00:51:51.000 He didn't run.

00:51:52.000 Well, right.

00:51:53.000 He called the lid, he hid in his basement and he said, I'll just stay away from this.

00:51:57.000 And look, and that is to some degree, it's like the quality about Trump that got him

00:52:01.000 to the dance is also the thing that got him out of the dance is that he does have this

00:52:05.000 personality that he was willing to say every nasty thing to everyone around in order to

00:52:11.000 really beat them.

00:52:12.000 But that also turned a lot of people off.

00:52:14.000 So it was like a double edged sword.

00:52:16.000 And it was enough for Biden.

00:52:17.000 Biden's like, the press will carry me.

00:52:19.000 That social media came down and silenced the big Hunter Biden story.

00:52:22.000 The big October surprise basically got squashed.

00:52:25.000 And that got him over there.

00:52:27.000 But we've never really had a president like that, not in my lifetime, who won that way.

00:52:31.000 Obama inspired his way into the White House.

00:52:34.000 Trump inspired his way into the White House.

00:52:37.000 This guy limped in there with the help of social media tech oligarchs and the mainstream media overlords that are like, hey, you're going to represent us.

00:52:45.000 You're going to work for us.

00:52:46.000 He's like, is that even saying yes?

00:52:48.000 He's like, good.

00:52:49.000 He's in.

00:52:50.000 They're like, Joe, can we count on you to do as you're told?

00:52:54.000 Come on, man.

00:52:55.000 I've been doing as I'm told for 47 years.

00:52:57.000 Just tell me what to do.

00:52:58.000 I'll go to sleep in the corner and you can write my name for me.

00:53:00.000 That's essentially what's going to happen, especially when you see the special interests, the corporatists, the banks, the complexes behind them that are essentially going to be setting American policy fast forward in a way that we have never seen lobbyists take control of our government.

00:53:17.000 He's a huge lobbyist.

00:53:18.000 He even argued with Barack Obama about the power of lobbyists and how great they are and how we need more of them.

00:53:23.000 Barack Obama even argued with him against that.

00:53:26.000 Let's jump to this story real quick from the Daily Mail.

00:53:30.000 4,000 armed patriots plan to surround Congress to stop Trump impeachment, law enforcement reveals at closed-door briefing.

00:53:37.000 They say Rep.

00:53:38.000 Conor Lamb revealed Tuesday law enforcement briefed lawmakers on a 4,000-person group of armed patriots prepared to prevent Democrats from entering the Capitol as they move to impeach Donald Trump.

00:53:48.000 The threats we are facing are very specific.

00:53:50.000 Lamb said Tuesday, as more National Guard are deployed to DC, they have published rules of engagement, meaning when you shoot and when you don't shoot.

00:53:57.000 This is an organized group that has a plan.

00:53:59.000 In their minds, they are patriots.

00:54:02.000 So this is now a contest of wills.

00:54:04.000 Trump declared a state of emergency Monday night that allows the Department of Homeland Security and Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate with local authorities.

00:54:13.000 On Monday night, new chiefs of Capitol Police told House Democrats they were looking into three separate plans to hold protests, including one described as largest armed protest ever to take place on American soil.

00:54:24.000 But the most concerning is said to involve armed riders encircling the Capitol and blocking Democrats from entering, killing if necessary, so that Republicans are able to take command of government.

00:54:34.000 I don't believe it.

00:54:36.000 I mean, maybe, but let me put it this way.

00:54:38.000 You mean to tell me that there's a large group of people defending Trump, defying Trump?

00:54:45.000 That I don't quite understand.

00:54:47.000 I've listened to what the Trump supporters have said, and they are repeatedly saying Trump never said storm the Capitol.

00:54:54.000 Trump was still speaking at the event when they already started breaching the barricades.

00:54:59.000 And then Trump said, we're going to peacefully march and then cheer on politicians.

00:55:04.000 That was already going down at the Capitol while Trump was speaking.

00:55:07.000 So I wonder if the people who were there, probably a lot of them were Trump supporters, but there are elements of the right that don't much care for Trump.

00:55:15.000 They may be, you know, I'll put it this way.

00:55:17.000 There are people who are Trump supporters first.

00:55:19.000 Trump says, go home and in peace.

00:55:21.000 Trump probably could have issued stronger statements, but Trump says, we condemn the violence, you know, go there peacefully, cheer on protesters.

00:55:27.000 There are people who listened.

00:55:28.000 You have this captain, Emily, I believe her name is Emily Rainey, who's being investigated, we just mentioned her, and she said she went there to hear Trump speak, and then they all got in their buses and left.

00:55:37.000 There was that musician, what was his name, Ariel Pink, who said, I went to hear him speak, and then I went to my hotel and went to sleep.

00:55:43.000 These are the people who like Trump, who listen to him, and when Trump says, you know, go in peace, they do.

00:55:48.000 But then there are other people who are not Trump supporters first.

00:55:51.000 They're something else.

00:55:53.000 So they go to the Capitol, they engage in this.

00:55:55.000 I have to wonder now, when they're saying they want to help Republicans take control of government, who are these people that are willing to put themselves on the line for Mitch McConnell?

00:56:03.000 I don't buy that.

00:56:04.000 Yeah, it seems very hard to believe.

00:56:07.000 I mean, I suppose it's not impossible.

00:56:09.000 It doesn't seem likely to me.

00:56:11.000 There seems to be no...

00:56:13.000 There's no strategy there.

00:56:15.000 There's no way this could possibly work.

00:56:17.000 I also do think that they are really trying to... One of the things that the establishment are experts at is exploiting a crisis.

00:56:26.000 So when this thing with the Capitol building happens, you can see their eyes get wide.

00:56:30.000 Like, okay, now we jump on this.

00:56:32.000 And now what they're using is this argument, which is what the articles of impeachment were going to be, that he incited an insurrection, that he's inciting violence.

00:56:43.000 Certainly, you can say that Donald Trump, by claiming the election was stolen, got a lot of people very worked up, and maybe that that made them more willing to do something than they would be.

00:56:54.000 But you could also say that framing the president as guilty of treason and a Russian asset, that that would incite some violence.

00:57:03.000 You could certainly say that some of the people on the left, who have basically been saying for years now that cops are out there hunting black people for sport, And I'm no fan of the cops, but it's obviously just a lie, and that that definitely incited a lot of violence.

00:57:18.000 Obviously, Maxine Waters and all these others, but they only want to apply it to Trump.

00:57:22.000 The double standard, I'm just, I gotta be honest, it's like every day I see something about the media, the lies, the double standards, and I'm just like, I think we all know, and anybody who's saying otherwise is lying.

00:57:33.000 They're just lying.

00:57:35.000 So listen.

00:57:36.000 I think it's possible that there's a large group of people that are angry.

00:57:39.000 But I think these are, it's the equivalent of the people who voted against Trump.

00:57:44.000 There are angry people who probably don't care about Trump and are against Biden.

00:57:47.000 So it's entirely possible there's a large group of people who have crazy plans.

00:57:51.000 And I don't know where this is coming from.

00:57:53.000 There's reports of like armed capital protests and like an inauguration protest.

00:57:58.000 I've not seen those things.

00:57:59.000 I've only seen Trump supporters denounce or deny them or warn people not to do it.

00:58:03.000 Yeah.

00:58:03.000 But I'll say regardless.

00:58:05.000 You know, people should not be going down to D.C.

00:58:07.000 I think the inauguration, what they're planning is, it seems a tad bit reckless, but I definitely think they need to up security to an extreme degree.

00:58:16.000 I mean, in D.C., for the time being, the last thing we need is any kind of escalation.

00:58:21.000 It's the worst possible thing.

00:58:23.000 It's going to result in nothing but bloodshed if they were to do something like that, and it will serve the opposite of what your interest is if you hate this kind of government authoritarian control.

00:58:33.000 They're crossing their fingers.

00:58:35.000 Yes, this would be the best thing for them you can do.

00:58:37.000 You cannot win a show of force with the federal government.

00:58:40.000 Don't kid yourself into thinking you will.

00:58:42.000 If you ever got to the point where it actually threatened them in some way, they will go Waco-style on you and burn children alive to protect their interests. 0.80

00:58:51.000 Do it.

00:58:52.000 The way to fight the federal government has to be done through peaceful means right now.

00:58:56.000 It's the most militarized government in human history.

00:58:58.000 You want to do something?

00:58:59.000 If you're in like a red district in a rural red area, start teaching prayer in school again. 0.99

00:59:05.000 Resist it that way.

00:59:06.000 Do something like that.

00:59:07.000 Not even about that.

00:59:08.000 It's about, we've mentioned it several times, we're in the information warfare We're in the information age.

00:59:14.000 Winning influence comes through confident arguments and playing the game strategically.

00:59:19.000 A lot of these Trump supporters like to talk about 4D chess.

00:59:22.000 Well, I think y'all should be playing it right now because look at what they're already doing because some people stormed to the Capitol.

00:59:29.000 Now, that's crazy.

00:59:31.000 The zip tie guy.

00:59:31.000 Some of this stuff's crazy.

00:59:32.000 Should not have been done.

00:59:34.000 But compare that to the waves of damage and destruction we've seen throughout the last year with Black Lives Matter. 1.00

00:59:39.000 Okay.

00:59:40.000 Now, to act like, you know, AOC goes on, uh, what does she go on, ABC saying half of Congress is on the verge of being killed or whatever, and it's like, oh, calm down, calm down.

00:59:49.000 But you can see how they weaponize it.

00:59:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:59:50.000 It was, it was one of the dumbest things people could have done. 0.99

00:59:52.000 Well, you can't, you can't copy the techniques of the left because they essentially have the mainstream media, social media, and a lot of the larger kind of cultural sports, uh, spokespeople that, that essentially send out these larger ideas that kind of justified. 0.75

01:00:07.000 Lydia sent us a video before about what happened to Rand Paul recently where he was walking through a crowd and BLM protesters surrounded him and With his wife.

01:00:18.000 With his wife in a very tense situation, but there was no outrage by the mainstream media surrounding that specific incident.

01:00:24.000 They were screaming at him about Breonna Taylor, even though he sponsored the bill for Breonna Taylor.

01:00:30.000 So we've got to understand, there's crazy and there's bad actors in every group.

01:00:35.000 We understand that.

01:00:36.000 But the kind of thing that I'm worried about, and if I could be allowed to speculate, I don't like to speculate, but we know if we let politicians gain more power from emergencies, what's stopping them from creating emergencies to gain more power?

01:00:49.000 And with everything coming up forward, I have this kind of feeling that there might potentially be either another grave escalation that could be planned and organized or maybe even a false flag, but this is just something that I personally feel that we should keep an eye out for because I think there's a huge potential to turn this already horrible situation to turn it a lot, a lot worse than it is.

01:01:12.000 I think talk of false flags is just going to help them more. 0.91

01:01:17.000 If it's true that they want the emergency, then they will love to hear you claiming that they were the ones who were behind it so they can say, now you're crazy and these people are crazy. 0.97

01:01:26.000 No, look, there are crazy people. 0.96

01:01:28.000 And I've seen people post crazy stuff online. 0.97

01:01:31.000 I have heard crazy stuff from some of the craziest, you know, Trump supporting.

01:01:36.000 There are some stories out there.

01:01:37.000 Reuters did a story where they interviewed a guy who said, just if Trump just says the word.

01:01:41.000 No, no, no, no.

01:01:41.000 We don't want any of that.

01:01:42.000 Trump's word was go in peace and he condemned the violence.

01:01:45.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 Yeah, the strategy now is it's it's propagandistic. It's persuasion. It's culture. It's influence the daily wire put

01:01:52.000 out this movie That's what conservatives need to be doing. That's the

01:01:56.000 battlefield right now the hearts and minds of the people I'm not reporting not going and trying to fight like you

01:02:01.000 said the most militarized What we need to do is try to de-escalate some of the crazies

01:02:07.000 some of the bad actors But you also you don't de-escalate by shunning them and

01:02:11.000 attacking them and putting them in a corner where they get to grow and fester

01:02:15.000 and not have their bad ideas challenged.

01:02:18.000 So whether it's bad actors or radicals on the left or right, we have to understand that this era of censorship is essentially No, you're absolutely right about that, and this is what always happens.

01:02:29.000 Even on an individual level, psychologically speaking, it's like repression, and then it comes back out in some worse form.

01:02:36.000 That's why you don't want to repress negative feelings.

01:02:39.000 But I do think if you're going to understand all these crazy people acting this way, if you're going to understand the year that was 2020 and now into 2021, and all the craziness, you really can't understand it outside the context of the lockdowns.

01:02:52.000 I mean, it's not a coincidence that people are acting so freaking crazy over the last nine months.

01:02:58.000 That just happened to be the time when the government locked people in their homes, shut down everything, put them in a state of paranoia and fear about a floating abstraction of a germ, about their economic security, about their Children's future people they've driven people crazy.

01:03:17.000 There's there's something that I'm I will now call lockdown derangement syndrome and what I mean by this is

01:03:23.000 There are people that I know who have gone insane like no joke and what I think happens is you take a couple

01:03:30.000 of people lock them in a room and Strip them away from all social communications. And what

01:03:36.000 happens is let's say you have three people persons a B and C

01:03:39.000 Person a says something he says one then person to one up someone says two three four five six

01:03:45.000 They keep escalating the insanity between them. So I've seen this before when I was younger

01:03:50.000 There was a group of people that I knew that all they would do is hang out in their room and play video games all day

01:03:55.000 And complain about a person they didn't like Until it went from one day where we knew they kind of didn't

01:04:01.000 like this dude and then a month later they were like

01:04:03.000 Like I'm on the verge of attacking him and beating him because all they did was rile themselves up

01:04:08.000 There are people that I know who have been locked up for months that have literally just snapped talking crazy conspiracies.

01:04:15.000 You've got the Q people on the right, but you've got equal elements of this on the left who just have wound themselves up into psychotic lockdown conspiracies because they've had no communication with regular people to normalize those conversations. 0.93

01:04:27.000 Yeah, dude, you're absolutely right.

01:04:28.000 Dude, have you ever, like, had, you know, like, we probably all had this, right, like, in the last, like, four or five years or something, where you could be, like, you know, like, on a YouTube journey or on Twitter or something like that, and you're literally, you know, you're hearing, like, some crazy woke leftist, and then you see, like, some white nationalist alt-righter type, and you see, like, all these videos, and you're like, oh my god, this country's, like, on the verge of a race war.

01:04:47.000 But then you go to the supermarket, and, like, some black guy walks in front of you, and he's like, oh, pardon me, and you're like, no, go ahead, sir, you're fine.

01:04:54.000 You know what, I think we're fine.

01:04:55.000 I love you.

01:04:57.000 And so when people are just isolated and it's just the mediums of like YouTube and Twitter and this, it's easy to start losing perspective.

01:05:03.000 We lost that illusion.

01:05:06.000 We lost that reality because we no longer are social creatures and we need to be social.

01:05:10.000 And the less social we are, the less better off we are as human beings, especially with our mental health, with our physical health.

01:05:17.000 We are meant to be community-oriented individuals.

01:05:21.000 That's in our DNA.

01:05:22.000 That's how we pretty much were We're, uh, our entire existence.

01:05:25.000 The way I describe it is, right now, I, so, uh, I've mentioned this a couple times, but this past weekend, I did less content.

01:05:32.000 And it's because every time I would open up Twitter, it would just be like opening an app and then screaming.

01:05:39.000 That's all it was.

01:05:39.000 People saying, like, it's insurrection, it's sedition, it's terror.

01:05:42.000 You know, purge the criminals.

01:05:44.000 They should be locked up. 1.00

01:05:45.000 And I'm like, dude, shut up. 0.99

01:05:48.000 It is not the apocalypse. 0.99

01:05:49.000 Ted Cruz is not a traitor.

01:05:51.000 Calm down.

01:05:52.000 But they won't stop. 0.96

01:05:55.000 They have gone insane.

01:05:56.000 They've been isolated for too long.

01:05:58.000 And the only window to the world they have is the screaming face in their, like, the phone, just screaming at them the whole time.

01:06:05.000 Or a government that in Los Angeles now is telling them to wear masks inside of their own homes.

01:06:11.000 They're going insane.

01:06:12.000 The crazy thing to me is what this has really exposed and has surprised me is the lack of mental fortitude among the average person in this country, which I must say right now, I have overestimated most of my life.

01:06:23.000 And now what I'm starting to realize is that a lot of people break down much more quickly than I realized.

01:06:27.000 I don't blame them for doing it, but without other humans to interact with, people snap.

01:06:33.000 I think I agree with you and I think I also underestimated the importance of some of the things that I probably thought of as trivial you know like just like sports or your bar something that you might look at is just like oh whatever this is just kind of a stupid waste of time anyway and then you're like No, actually, maybe it's really important.

01:06:50.000 Maybe people really need that, like, you know, that, like, going to a football game and going to a bar and, like, doing these silly things that Americans do, but that actually do keep us human in some way.

01:07:01.000 And when you take that all away from everybody, things get pretty ugly.

01:07:05.000 I mean, look, when the Black Lives Matter riots first started, That was the only game in town. 1.00

01:07:11.000 There was literally nothing else open.

01:07:12.000 There was nothing you could do, but you could go riot.

01:07:14.000 You couldn't go outside, but you could go out and riot.

01:07:17.000 Right.

01:07:18.000 I mean, so it was almost kind of like, and then I'm trying, you're thinking about it and you're like, well, look, a lot of these are like kids, you know, I mean, maybe like young 20s or something, but they're kids.

01:07:25.000 And I think back to like me, like now I'm like in my mid thirties, I'm a father, I'm kind of in a different place, but I imagine what taking away, hanging out, Would have been to me at 20?

01:07:35.000 Suicides were spiking.

01:07:36.000 But look what happened when people were on lockdowns.

01:07:39.000 Who were they held captive by?

01:07:40.000 They were held captive by their phones, by social media, which has a historical trend of showing a direct correlation with the destruction of people's mental health.

01:07:50.000 There's a direct rise there's a direct correlation with the advent of the social media atmosphere with of course mental health going down in so many different ways in so many different categories.

01:08:00.000 That's absolutely terrifying.

01:08:01.000 And now you're locked down and forced to just be on that one single institution that's controlled by some oligarchs that fine-tune what you see and what you don't see.

01:08:11.000 I mean, that's a lot of power.

01:08:12.000 And then these individuals are coming to us now saying, just give us more power.

01:08:15.000 It's okay.

01:08:16.000 We're going to keep you safe, guys.

01:08:17.000 As they destroy and rot mental health for the last decade, they're doing it now on an extreme level.

01:08:22.000 We need to tell people, if you're listening, meditate.

01:08:25.000 That's what I was saying earlier.

01:08:26.000 You know, this weekend, I did a segment and then we drove like an hour and a half out to the middle of nowhere, went to a lake, no cell service, started a little fire with some rocks and just chilled.

01:08:37.000 There was some ice on the lake.

01:08:38.000 We threw rocks at it.

01:08:39.000 It was a whole lot of fun.

01:08:40.000 You know, Luke's dog was running around getting all wet and being all silly and we couldn't connect to the internet.

01:08:44.000 And I thought it was just great looking around at the emptiness and the beauty of nature and just calming down.

01:08:51.000 You know, my other idea is maybe we should create an app that is Twitter, but when you open it, it screams.

01:08:57.000 So you don't want to be looking at, you're like, I want to check Twitter, but it's going to be really loud.

01:09:01.000 It's going to be screaming at me. 0.95

01:09:02.000 Insults you and curses you. 0.95

01:09:04.000 I'll tell you this, man.

01:09:05.000 I, I'm half joking when I say it, but I said, here's my compromise for all the censorship.

01:09:09.000 Just ban social media.

01:09:10.000 Just get rid of it.

01:09:11.000 It's made people go insane.

01:09:14.000 Look, the grifter thing is real. 0.75

01:09:16.000 There are grifters.

01:09:18.000 There are people who have built careers off just saying the most inflammatory thing possible to get followers.

01:09:23.000 And then, the funny thing is, you have the, like...

01:09:26.000 The second layer, the grifter who accuses the other person of being a grifter, creating a grifter loop feedback, where then they make money off accusing the other person, and it is just a psychotic, it is a psycho-producing machine, where people lose their minds.

01:09:41.000 Out of context clips, clips that can't be put in context because Twitter only allows a certain number of characters anyway, and then people go on Twitter for news and commentary and opinion, and they're going nuts.

01:09:51.000 Seeing the worst of humanity highlighted on a highlight reel showing you don't trust other person.

01:09:56.000 They're going to get you sick.

01:09:57.000 They're going to steal from you.

01:09:59.000 They're going to rob from you.

01:10:00.000 They're going to hurt you.

01:10:00.000 Don't trust anyone around you.

01:10:02.000 Your corporate overlords will tell you what to do.

01:10:05.000 Just serve them blindly and everything will be fine.

01:10:07.000 That's essentially the larger message that's being put out there by your social media feed, but people don't even realize it.

01:10:13.000 So here's the thing though.

01:10:14.000 It has often been said, and let me know if you disagree, that the right knows what the left is thinking.

01:10:20.000 The left doesn't know what the right is thinking.

01:10:22.000 The right thinks the left is misguided.

01:10:24.000 The left thinks the right is evil.

01:10:25.000 And I've noticed that my friends who are very left, when they watch news, the only videos of Trump supporters they see are the worst of the worst.

01:10:34.000 They've not interacted with Trump supporters.

01:10:35.000 You know what?

01:10:35.000 It makes sense.

01:10:36.000 They don't live in these areas.

01:10:38.000 Trump supporters, they're all over the place, but many in more suburban and rural areas.

01:10:43.000 People who live in cities are in cubicles locked up and they can't get out, and they're not going to bump into a Trump supporter for the most part, and if they do, they wouldn't admit it.

01:10:50.000 So they don't know.

01:10:51.000 They see a video of like, you know, some crazy fat redneck guy screaming about how he refuses to wear masks and he's spitting on people and they're like, that's Trump and his supporters, not realizing that you also have like little old soccer mom who's just going out to buy a gallon of milk, who's also voted for Trump and supports him a great deal. 0.87

01:11:07.000 They don't know that. 0.95

01:11:08.000 So I see these people on the left completely clueless and assuming everyone on the right is pure evil.

01:11:13.000 And then I see on the right, they understand that there are just mindless, what they call default liberals.

01:11:18.000 So bridging that gap is the problem.

01:11:21.000 But I think it ultimately comes down to, once again, the media.

01:11:23.000 You've got people who just blindly trust the mainstream media, and you have people who don't.

01:11:27.000 So how does this work?

01:11:28.000 Well, the people who are watching or listening to this podcast have sought it out.

01:11:32.000 They've gone to YouTube.

01:11:33.000 They searched for it.

01:11:34.000 Someone recommended it.

01:11:35.000 They decided to check it out.

01:11:37.000 On the other side, you have people who just turn on CNN and whatever Wolf Blitzer says is law.

01:11:42.000 If you're only listening to the likes of CNN, you're probably going insane.

01:11:46.000 If you're going on YouTube and seeking out content, it's possible there's a lot of people who found crazy channels went crazy too, but you're more likely to get a different array of content on YouTube.

01:11:55.000 But people were shaped, people were groomed by these new algorithms, whether by YouTube or by Facebook, who started to work with, quote, authoritative sources.

01:12:05.000 And slowly but surely, people started getting more Wolf Blitzer, more Anderson Cooper, and less.

01:12:11.000 The average person that's them, the average person that is like them, that shares an idea that's unique, that's not a corporate slogan.

01:12:18.000 That's not working on YouTube.

01:12:20.000 YouTube has created like, you know, special authoritative sources and they're all thumbs down into oblivion.

01:12:25.000 Why?

01:12:26.000 You cannot take an inquisitive person and feed them fake news and have them accept it.

01:12:31.000 They watch Wolf Blitzer and they go, well, this is wrong.

01:12:33.000 I'm not going to watch this.

01:12:34.000 And then they come to this show.

01:12:35.000 By the very nature of the structure, the people who are watching your show want to think, and the people who are watching Wolf Blitzer's show want to be told what to think.

01:12:46.000 It's just kind of like the type of person you get there.

01:12:48.000 And so if you get the type of person that's interested in your show, and you try to give them that, it's just not going to work.

01:12:54.000 But I do think that, look, you're right about what you said about the right understanding the left more than the left understands the right.

01:12:59.000 There's actually like scientific studies that can demonstrate that pretty conclusively

01:13:02.000 But I think the big problem that's staring everyone in the face

01:13:06.000 In America right now that we're either gonna fall apart or find a way to work through is that and I think on some

01:13:12.000 level Everybody knows this that this whole thing doesn't work

01:13:15.000 anymore. And from my perspective now, I'll admit this is my bias

01:13:19.000 I'm a libertarian but from my perspective the big central problem here is

01:13:23.000 that the government got Way too powerful and way too big and when you have this

01:13:28.000 much power rooted in Washington DC Now the fact that we have drastically different cultures in

01:13:33.000 the country, which has always been true Brooklyn and Alabama have never been the same thing, you

01:13:38.000 know what I mean?

01:13:38.000 but now it's this huge center of power that really was tremendously built up in the Bush and Obama and Trump years

01:13:44.000 and And now one side gets control of it and rules over the other side, or the other side gets control and rules over the other side.

01:13:51.000 So now you have to fight a civil war over who gets control of this.

01:13:55.000 Every four years.

01:13:56.000 Yes.

01:13:56.000 And at a certain point, Americans are going to have to say, do we really want to do this anymore?

01:14:02.000 Because the only alternative to this is some form of decentralization.

01:14:07.000 So it could be as drastic as secession, where we just go, hey, we don't need to all be one country.

01:14:11.000 I mean, we hate each other's guts.

01:14:13.000 Why are we a country?

01:14:14.000 What are we benefiting from?

01:14:15.000 From being in a country with, like, one side looks at the other side as baby murderers, and the other side looks at the other side as Nazis.

01:14:21.000 It's like, okay, so why are we together?

01:14:24.000 Would you ever be in a friendship with someone who you thought that about?

01:14:27.000 Or the other answer, short of secession, is just decentralization, to scale back the power of the central federal government, allow state and local governments to have more authority, let people understand we all have to accept that in Portland they're not going to live the same way that they do in Florida, and lots of other examples.

01:14:46.000 And that's why it won't work.

01:14:47.000 Because California is inviting of non-citizens into the country, and there are porous borders between California and the surrounding states. 0.99

01:14:55.000 And that means that if you live in, say, Nebraska, you have a very real threat to your laws if there are people who can enter easily.

01:15:03.000 So let's say Nebraska says, we don't allow, you know, illegal immigration.

01:15:07.000 They can enter in easily through California, there's no security, and they can easily pass from there into another state and then come into Nebraska.

01:15:13.000 So, then what do we get?

01:15:14.000 Do we get state borders where they checkpoint people?

01:15:16.000 Well, no, it all depends on the employment laws.

01:15:18.000 Some countries benefit from, literally what I would say is akin to human slavery, and allow immigrants to come in and work for pennies on the dollar. 0.96

01:15:26.000 Other states don't allow it and say, hey, if you're not a citizen, you can't really work here, and they don't incentivize this kind of corporate slavery of the immigrant class.

01:15:35.000 that essentially in my opinion exploits them and creates a lose-lose situation for everyone.

01:15:40.000 Well all you have to do honestly is not make it illegal to discriminate.

01:15:45.000 So you just have to get rid of laws that like you don't need these force association laws and you

01:15:49.000 can basically just say that like look people have a right to discriminate and not let certain people

01:15:54.000 into their communities hire them at their businesses not and now under current situations

01:15:58.000 you'll have big fat lawsuits but you'd have to get rid of that stuff but the pitch to California

01:16:03.000 would have to be something like look you guys can have everything you want if you're your own state.

01:16:10.000 I mean, you got the votes for all of it.

01:16:12.000 Now, the problem they're going to have is it's all going to fall apart and none of it's going to work, which they've already experienced with their train system and the Medicare for All proposals and everything.

01:16:20.000 It just doesn't work.

01:16:23.000 I understand what you're saying.

01:16:24.000 It's just not going to work.

01:16:25.000 And you're right.

01:16:26.000 There's a lot of reasons to think it's not going to work.

01:16:28.000 But this isn't going to work either, what we're currently doing.

01:16:31.000 And so you have to almost go like, well, look, the pitch has to be How much more of this can we keep doing?

01:16:37.000 Because, by the way, look, Trump, the next Trump might be ten times worse than Donald Trump.

01:16:43.000 He might actually be what the left thought Donald Trump was.

01:16:48.000 The likelihood that a Republican, as we know today, wins in four years, I think is slim.

01:16:53.000 What'll end up happening is the Republican in four years will be kind of like a center-left individual by today's standards.

01:17:00.000 So, well, I should say a true center-left individual.

01:17:04.000 And it's because if someone like Trump, let's say we got somebody who had very, very similar policies, but was not abrasive and was very charismatic, the media would annihilate them. 0.87

01:17:15.000 They would say it's a smooth-talking lie, just another Nazi.

01:17:18.000 Look, his policy is the same as Trump.

01:17:20.000 It would never work.

01:17:21.000 So what's consistently happened is that the right is being pulled left out of the way because they're desperate to appease the media.

01:17:29.000 Well, that's not the right as much as it is the Republican establishment.

01:17:33.000 But that's very true for the Republican establishment.

01:17:35.000 And this is why they're they're smoked.

01:17:38.000 It's not because of Trump.

01:17:39.000 Trump didn't destroy the Republicans.

01:17:41.000 Trump brought a whole bunch of new people into the Republican Party.

01:17:44.000 Trump just got them more votes than they've ever gotten on a presidential ticket.

01:17:47.000 So it's not it's not that Trump destroyed the party.

01:17:49.000 The problem is that the Republican Party deserves to beat they they have nothing to stand on right like what

01:17:58.000 can the republicans mitch mcconnell right if you if you take trump out of the picture what what

01:18:03.000 is the republican party can they say that they what have they conserved have they have they

01:18:08.000 protected the constitution do they have do they have claim to the bill of rights do they have claim to

01:18:13.000 well they're reducing the deficit right Right, look, reducing the debt.

01:18:16.000 Did they have any claim to small government?

01:18:18.000 Did they have any claim to tradition of any sense?

01:18:21.000 Cultural tradition?

01:18:22.000 They stand for what the left stood for 10 years ago.

01:18:25.000 That's all they ever stand for.

01:18:28.000 None of them would have the courage to oppose gay marriage.

01:18:30.000 By the way, I'm not for gay marriage. 0.99

01:18:32.000 I'm not saying they should.

01:18:33.000 I'm just saying they don't have a claim to anything.

01:18:37.000 Look at McCain and Mitt Romney and we go back all those years and where their stances were on cultural issues.

01:18:43.000 And now look what the Republican Party is today.

01:18:45.000 I think there's good things because I agree.

01:18:47.000 I'm for gay marriage and I'm for freedoms and civil liberties and things like that.

01:18:51.000 I actually lean left a lot on social issues too.

01:18:54.000 I just think the woke left is particularly authoritarian about it.

01:18:57.000 But one of the things Jack Murphy brings up is that it was the Republican Party accepting gay marriage that allowed him to actually vote Republican and support Donald Trump.

01:19:07.000 In four years, oh, there will be a Republican, I'm sure, and they will be substantially more progressive and more woke than anyone today.

01:19:14.000 In fact, they probably will be, to a certain degree, woke.

01:19:17.000 They'll probably be kind of like me, where it's like they used to be a liberal, they're kind of left on some issues, but they're called far right.

01:19:24.000 And they'll still get attacked and destroyed in the media.

01:19:27.000 I don't see how they'll actually win, even if they do move left.

01:19:30.000 Well, the left made a very important strategic move by aligning themselves with big tech and saying, you guys could do whatever you want, but you got to work with us.

01:19:38.000 And they do work in tandem in such a way that it's even entangled with the CIA.

01:19:43.000 But again, you made a very good point.

01:19:44.000 The Republicans are pretty much Democrats 10 years ago.

01:19:47.000 And the bigger point you made is the common sense solution to all of this.

01:19:50.000 If you have the big government, just decentralize it.

01:19:53.000 Let people live how they want to live individually, because when you have a government that has enough money to give to other countries, that means they're taking too much money away from their taxpayers, they're too powerful, and they should be scaled to size where people get to have their individual expression of liberty, their individual expression of culture.

01:20:12.000 Do what you want to do if you're California, if you're New York City, but if you're Alabama, let Alabama do Alabama. 0.99

01:20:19.000 Here's the problem.

01:20:20.000 The people who live in, give me a red state, Texas, right?

01:20:24.000 A large portion don't want abortion to be legal, right?

01:20:28.000 Issues like that.

01:20:30.000 They say abortion is murder, it is violence, and they won't allow that in their country.

01:20:34.000 So they will continue to fight at the federal level for Supreme Court justices to overturn what they view as abhorrent and what should be illegal activity.

01:20:43.000 The left will say, we can't allow them the controls of federal government over everybody.

01:20:47.000 Listen, but the federal government could just say it's a state issue.

01:20:49.000 No, they can't because the left will say, the right will say we are not going to allow New York to murder babies.

01:20:55.000 Yeah, but you know, I don't think you're right about that because the right has been losing for so long that just allowing Texas to ban abortion would be such a huge win for them.

01:21:05.000 There's all right.

01:21:05.000 It's like, yeah, guys, either way they can murder babies in New York.

01:21:08.000 Okay.

01:21:09.000 But at least now under this system, they're not going to be murdering them in your area now.

01:21:12.000 And you know what?

01:21:13.000 I think that would actually please a lot of right-wing people in Texas.

01:21:15.000 And yeah, it would piss off left-wing people in New York.

01:21:18.000 And they would still go for the reins of federal power to tell Texas what to do.

01:21:22.000 Yes, probably. 0.99

01:21:23.000 Because that's in the fucking leftist... Because the federal government incentivizes it. 0.99

01:21:26.000 That's in the leftist mindset. 0.99

01:21:27.000 If the federal government doesn't incentivize it and doesn't say we're going to rule for everyone, then it's a state-by-state issue.

01:21:33.000 And individuals could say, I want to live in New York City where I have these freedoms, or I want to live in Texas where I have these different freedoms.

01:21:40.000 But we should focus on protecting freedoms rather than limiting them.

01:21:44.000 Listen, I completely agree with you.

01:21:45.000 But I also think that this is getting to a point where this is less like an ideological preference or a suggestion.

01:21:52.000 And this is more like a doctor telling you you need a blood transfusion.

01:21:56.000 Yes.

01:21:56.000 Now, you might say, like, well, I don't know how we're going to get this blood transfusion.

01:21:59.000 It might be hard to do.

01:21:59.000 It's like, OK, well, you're going to die.

01:22:01.000 Like, this is not a joke. 0.62

01:22:03.000 This country is on a suicide mission right now.

01:22:05.000 And everybody knows that this isn't a game anymore.

01:22:08.000 It's I remember back in the in the Ron Paul days.

01:22:10.000 Right.

01:22:10.000 Ron Paul used to always basically say that.

01:22:12.000 I mean, those weren't his words, but he would basically say this country's on a suicide mission.

01:22:15.000 Like this is an unsustainable path.

01:22:17.000 It wasn't just like, look, I'm a libertarian and I have this ideology and I think we should all live this way.

01:22:22.000 He was telling you that this system is doomed to fail.

01:22:25.000 And back then, even when he convinced me of it, it was still kind of an abstraction.

01:22:29.000 It was a concept.

01:22:30.000 Now we're seeing it.

01:22:32.000 We're watching it.

01:22:33.000 This country is on a suicide mission, and this is the only solution to it.

01:22:37.000 So we have to try somehow to move in that direction.

01:22:41.000 Because the truth is, what you were saying about a right-winger or a Republican winning, You're right, and you make good points.

01:22:47.000 But we are going to go in a populist direction one way or the other for the simple reason that this type of corruption that just screws over the average person so much always leads to populism.

01:23:01.000 You can't.

01:23:02.000 What we just had this last year was the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper upper class in human history.

01:23:08.000 I mean, it's just been an attack on small businesses and massive bailouts for big corporations, big banks.

01:23:14.000 They're all doing great.

01:23:15.000 And the inflation of our currency.

01:23:17.000 And that goes right along with the same trend.

01:23:19.000 I mean, when the new money gets created, it always goes to the top first and they get all of the wealth.

01:23:23.000 They extract wealth from the poor and the middle class. 0.77

01:23:26.000 And when you have that scenario, of course, someone like Bernie Sanders or someone like Trump who speaks to the average guy that, hey, let's take this whole thing on and win for you, even if they both have some idiotic ideas of how to do that, that's always going to be popular.

01:23:41.000 And then what that requires is more government suppression in order to suppress the populist voices.

01:23:46.000 So we're going to be in this cycle that's going to kill us unless we decentralize.

01:23:50.000 Well, they milked this country to the tune of $28 trillion.

01:23:53.000 There's no going back from that.

01:23:54.000 The larger economic ramifications are terrifying.

01:23:57.000 The way I view what's been happening is we're two sides continually trying to build a tower to see in the other direction, right?

01:24:05.000 Let me mention it this way.

01:24:06.000 You've got two buildings, and the people on top are like, I want to see the other side.

01:24:10.000 I want to see the mountains.

01:24:11.000 Well, I want to see the ocean.

01:24:12.000 So the left builds a little higher, and now they can see the ocean.

01:24:14.000 So the right says, well, now I can't see, so they keep going up.

01:24:17.000 Eventually, the towers are getting so big, they're starting to sway back and forth.

01:24:20.000 And the bigger they get, the more they sway, the more violent it becomes, and eventually they both snap and collapse and crush under their own weight.

01:24:27.000 That's what's happening if this escalation keeps occurring until someone finally says, I'm going to stop.

01:24:31.000 But you know what?

01:24:32.000 People aren't going to stop.

01:24:32.000 You know why?

01:24:33.000 I believe in freedom, free expression, individual liberties, individual rights, the constitution.

01:24:39.000 I don't like authoritarianism, be it from corporations or the government.

01:24:42.000 And there are people on the left who think the government should mandate what people do because the planet is doomed.

01:24:48.000 They think we're on a collision course with the planet, the planet's gonna explode, and so they're willing to destroy your life and sacrifice you for the greater good.

01:24:56.000 It's a very utilitarian versus deontological argument.

01:24:58.000 You have people on the left saying, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and then you have many people on the right saying, any act against an individual is an amoral act that cannot be, you know, conducted.

01:25:09.000 So ultimately what that leads to is one side saying, I will not let you destroy this planet, and the other side saying, I will not let you oppress individual rights.

01:25:18.000 No one is going to back down from that fight.

01:25:21.000 Would you say, you know what, in the interest of peace, I will allow the left to continue their expansion of authority and wokeness and then all that?

01:25:29.000 They're doing it now, anyway.

01:25:32.000 But what's the actual proposal there?

01:25:34.000 So, in the interest of peace, would I say that Portland can go as woke as they want to, as long as they don't force that on the rest of the country?

01:25:42.000 No, that they take the rest of the country over, and instill their ideology over everyone else to go out fighting.

01:25:46.000 No, that I think needs to be fought against.

01:25:49.000 And they say the same thing, and you see the point.

01:25:52.000 Why would I say to the woke authoritarian communist types that I'm going to let them oppress people?

01:25:59.000 I won't.

01:26:00.000 I'll say, look, in Portland, where I was earlier in the year was like, shut it down, that's crazy, and now I'm kind of like, it's Portland, they voted for it.

01:26:10.000 They must want it.

01:26:10.000 Who am I to intervene?

01:26:12.000 But to put that on the rest of the country, to see the woke left call for the things they're calling for when they're like, it's the craziest thing when I hear them say, all we want to do is give the right-wingers health care, but they're so dumb. 0.99

01:26:25.000 They don't understand it. 0.98

01:26:26.000 And it's like, no, maybe you don't understand they don't want to live by your rules.

01:26:30.000 Yeah, look, I'm with you, okay?

01:26:32.000 And it's kind of like... The challenge is daunting, you know what I mean?

01:26:37.000 But it's worth attempting.

01:26:39.000 And to me... Do you mean like a peaceful... Yes!

01:26:42.000 The only option that we have is to, as we were talking about before, that a military confrontation with the most militarized government ever is not gonna work, and it will just lead to bloodshed.

01:26:52.000 All we have is the power of ideas and the truth is that there is still a remnant of decency in the human spirit and a lot of people are, there is a huge movement of people who are turned off by the woke stuff.

01:27:07.000 There's a huge movement of people who are turned off by a lot of the just swampiness of the establishment in general.

01:27:14.000 The problem is that the other side always scares them back into their base.

01:27:19.000 Right.

01:27:19.000 So a lot of the kind of like liberal left who Doesn't like the woke stuff and there's a lot of them out

01:27:24.000 there I think the vast majority of them are silent because they're

01:27:27.000 kind of cowards about it Which I think is part of the personality type of the 0.60

01:27:30.000 liberal left in general But that so they're too cowardice to ever be called racist, 0.99

01:27:34.000 but then they see Trump and they're like, okay Well, I this guy's too gross for me. So I'm just gonna 0.97

01:27:39.000 stick in this kind of camp here Yeah, well

01:27:43.000 We're like, I'm gonna vote for this guy.

01:27:44.000 That is true, too.

01:27:45.000 But the truth is that you have to find different ways to attack this stuff. 1.00

01:27:49.000 And what doesn't get confronted enough to me about the whole woke movement is that, like, people battle it and how stupid it is. 0.99

01:27:59.000 And that's kind of easy. 1.00

01:28:00.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:28:01.000 And it's divisive, and it's racist, and it's horrible. 1.00

01:28:04.000 And it's also just really, really dumb. 1.00

01:28:06.000 Like, it's really, really dumb. 0.99

01:28:09.000 This is why Ben Shapiro got so popular because he'd battle their woke ideas and people would 1.00

01:28:13.000 just look at him and be like, this is so absurdly ridiculous.

01:28:16.000 He can just shred these ideas up. 0.65

01:28:18.000 But what's not mentioned enough is what is actually going on here and how brilliant the

01:28:24.000 whole woke movement was.

01:28:25.000 It's like why do you think this stuff is pushed by government and big corporations and big

01:28:32.000 banks at the highest level?

01:28:34.000 Why is it?

01:28:35.000 It's like, well, what was the left doing ten years ago?

01:28:39.000 Say whatever you will about the left.

01:28:40.000 Ten years ago, the left was standing outside the big banks.

01:28:45.000 Screaming, we are the 99%.

01:28:48.000 You think that got some attention out of people?

01:28:51.000 Do you think it's crazy that all of a sudden they have completely thrown you off the scent now and just have you focusing on microaggressions?

01:28:59.000 Just imagine, like I was saying this when I was on Rogan a couple weeks ago to him, where I was like, imagine you're Goldman Sachs exec, right?

01:29:08.000 And you have Bernie Sanders coming up and he's going, there should be no billionaires!

01:29:14.000 And you're like, huh.

01:29:16.000 And then some other woke kid comes up and goes, I want to talk about microaggressions.

01:29:21.000 I think you'd be like, yeah, I have a microaggressions guy has something he wants to say.

01:29:25.000 Let's focus on that guy.

01:29:27.000 So this has all been just to pull the wool over the eyes of the left.

01:29:31.000 Because the left, when it's at its best, is actually a threat to this power structure.

01:29:37.000 I want to show you guys this comic, because it's great.

01:29:41.000 And I've mentioned it before, it's a man sitting at a desk.

01:29:44.000 Outside his window, it's a business guy sitting at his poofy desk with his things, you know, his degrees on the wall.

01:29:48.000 And outside is a bunch of people protesting, holding a big sign, Occupy Wall Street, Stop Corporate Greed, Fat Cats.

01:29:55.000 And the man inside is smirking on the phone and he says, Introduce them to identity politics.

01:30:00.000 And I remember, because I was at Occupy Wall Street, as was Luke, when this started happening.

01:30:04.000 When it went from, we are the 99%, the big banks have extracted the wealth of the people for too long, to all of a sudden, twinkle fingers, progressive stack, if you're white you're not allowed to speak.

01:30:13.000 And when we look at all of their kind of woke ideology, it's meant to divide and conquer.

01:30:18.000 Whether it's your family members, whether it's your race, whether it's your sex, whether it's your identity.

01:30:23.000 Well, whatever little category they could put you in to make you feel different and make you fight someone else who is not on your side, intersectional, identifying as it or this or whatever you want to do.

01:30:34.000 You're creating essentially packs that are meant to drive wedges into our modern day culture.

01:30:40.000 So we're at each other's throats and being afraid to talk.

01:30:44.000 to each other because you don't want to offend someone if you use the proper

01:30:47.000 pronouns or not. What kind of civilization and society are we living in

01:30:50.000 where we can't even say hey you buddy bloke whatever there's a guy in the UK

01:30:55.000 who went to jail for calling someone a bloke. And this is why this is why the

01:30:59.000 left eats itself it is not a bug it is a feature of what they do.

01:31:05.000 They don't want them to ever actually be able to unify around anything cohesive, so everything they do is offensive.

01:31:11.000 My favorite moment in this whole nonsense was when one organization came out, it was like International Organization for Women or something, I forgot what the name was, and they said Womxn.

01:31:23.000 W-O-M-X-N. 1.00

01:31:25.000 Womxn. 1.00

01:31:26.000 And they say it's pronounced Wimmings.

01:31:28.000 And they got attacked by the left.

01:31:30.000 And they said, using the word Wimmickson is offensive because you are implying you need a special word for trans women, but trans women are women.

01:31:39.000 How dare you say this?

01:31:40.000 So then they apologized and put it back to women and they still got flack. 1.00

01:31:44.000 Because women is an old patriarchal term that separates the genders that don't exist. 1.00

01:31:49.000 And the point is, they've created an ideology that is attacking itself on purpose So that it can't unify against anyone.

01:31:56.000 Well, this is another thing.

01:31:57.000 We used to talk about facts.

01:31:59.000 We used to talk about evidence.

01:32:01.000 Now we're talking about, what are you?

01:32:02.000 What's your identity?

01:32:04.000 And I get attacked on this nonstop on Twitter. 0.98

01:32:06.000 You're a misogynist.

01:32:07.000 You're, I mean, I'm like, I choose not to even engage in that because I'm like, let's talk about the merits of this debate.

01:32:14.000 And people don't.

01:32:15.000 Yes, but look, they've turned the best aspect of the left against the left and made it a vice rather than a virtue.

01:32:25.000 In the same sense that, look, what they did with the terror wars was they turned the right-wing impulse to be tough and protect your country and defend the Bill of Rights, this really beautiful, noble thing, and they turned that into slaughtering poor people in third-world countries. 0.54

01:32:41.000 They take this noble thing and they make it evil.

01:32:43.000 They're geniuses.

01:32:44.000 And what they've done is they take this leftist kind of impulse to care about the marginalized, which in its purest form is a good thing.

01:32:52.000 Something that a moral society needs. 0.99

01:32:55.000 And they've turned this into attacking everyone for every stupid reason. 0.99

01:32:59.000 But it's to Luke's point. 1.00

01:33:01.000 This is the perfect divide and conquer tactic.

01:33:06.000 You can make sure that they never focus on the fact that We have more in common with each other than we ever will with Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

01:33:15.000 And when they're fighting each other, the corporations do whatever they want.

01:33:18.000 And what I've said before is that when we had these civil rights groups that were fighting against racism, fighting for social justice, civil rights, it was kind of like an immune response.

01:33:29.000 We had something bad and we said we're not going to succeed if we're divided all the time.

01:33:34.000 And so this movement emerged for equality under the law in the 1964 Civil Rights Act, followed by Loving v. Virginia, which said, under the law, we are all Americans, and that is our identity, American citizens.

01:33:45.000 Then, we start to get an immune overreaction.

01:33:49.000 Now these people are looking for racism everywhere.

01:33:51.000 They still are operating under this immune response, but it's more now like an autoimmune disorder, attacking healthy cells, thinking it's a diseased cell.

01:34:00.000 And that's when a living creature dies.

01:34:03.000 There are numerous disorders that are like that.

01:34:04.000 An overactive, targeting the wrong thing and destroying it.

01:34:07.000 Just really quickly, it's a very quick story, but my buddy Scott Horton, who I don't know if you know him, he's a genius.

01:34:14.000 He's the managing editor at AntiWar.com.

01:34:17.000 He's the greatest.

01:34:18.000 Anyway, you guys check out Scott Horton if you don't know who he is.

01:34:20.000 But he was telling me this story, and this is a great example of how they divide us with this stuff when we should all be together, but it was at the Bundy Ranch standoff.

01:34:30.000 And he was talking to one of these people, I forget, but it was one of the leaders in the Black Lives Matter movement at the time.

01:34:34.000 And he was basically telling this lady, he was like, you guys should stand with the Bundy Ranchers because you guys have so much in common here and you could unify and make it like a left and right thing and really focus on who the enemy is. 0.75

01:34:47.000 And she showed him a picture.

01:34:49.000 And it was one of the Bundy ranchers had a F BLM shirt on.

01:34:54.000 And he goes, no, see, they hate us.

01:34:57.000 They hate everything we stand for.

01:34:59.000 And he goes, no, no, no, no, no.

01:35:00.000 That's Bureau of Land Management, aka the cops.

01:35:04.000 Yeah.

01:35:06.000 They hate the cops.

01:35:09.000 They're the same as you.

01:35:11.000 It's literally just a different version of the same thing.

01:35:14.000 Trying to explain the Bundy thing to people is funny, because it comes up all the time.

01:35:18.000 I'm like, yeah, they were criticizing BLM, and they're like, Black Lives Matter?

01:35:21.000 No, no, Bureau of Land Management.

01:35:22.000 And they're like, oh.

01:35:24.000 In other words, the federal cops.

01:35:26.000 It's the same thing.

01:35:27.000 It's just literally people who are saying that they want to live their lives and there are these federal agents who are coming through and bringing violence to them for no justifiable reason.

01:35:39.000 And that is something that could unite people. 0.98

01:35:42.000 But to me, the way to attack the woke stuff is more than just calling it stupid and smashing it because that's just been done to death at this point. 0.98

01:35:49.000 to let good decent leftists know that they have fooled you with this and they have and 0.99

01:35:55.000 they are laughing at you.

01:35:56.000 Those same bankers are cracking up laughing that you're talking about white supremacy

01:36:02.000 rather than talking about banker bailouts, which is a much more real thing.

01:36:07.000 We went from Occupy Wall Street.

01:36:10.000 We are the 99% angry over the bailouts for the big banks that ripped us off, screwed

01:36:15.000 us, destroyed the retirement accounts.

01:36:17.000 And in the first week of Occupy, there was unity.

01:36:19.000 There were older conservatives there, there were libertarians there.

01:36:22.000 People like Luke, Ron Paul libertarian types were down there saying, we agree, the establishment, the big banks, etc.

01:36:27.000 Once it turned woke, we are now 10 years on, almost 10 years, and what do we get?

01:36:33.000 But I guess basically, as you mentioned, we're now witnessing the largest transfer of wealth in human history, and the left is in favor of it.

01:36:41.000 Well, right, but what has the left gotten?

01:36:43.000 So you get the largest transfer of wealth in human history, so much of it going to these big bankers.

01:36:49.000 But, they will send their white execs to diversity training.

01:36:52.000 So that's what you got out of all this.

01:36:54.000 They bought you off for the cheapest gesture.

01:36:57.000 The military industrial complex is now run by women.

01:37:01.000 That's right.

01:37:02.000 Bravo, everybody.

01:37:03.000 Ladies, you are the new warmongers women can do it to. 1.00

01:37:06.000 Yes, the bombs that are gonna be dropping on Yemen are gonna be dropped by the orders of a woman. 1.00

01:37:10.000 So everything is saved, everything's great.

01:37:12.000 Manufactured by the women, ordered by the U.S. 1.00

01:37:15.000 federal government, and potentially its female vice president. 1.00

01:37:18.000 And she's a woman of color.

01:37:20.000 Well you brought up something that I've been talking about and I think we've been talking about for a number of years now.

01:37:24.000 We've seen the writing on the wall, we've seen it slowly incrementalized, and we have to understand also these people are very patient.

01:37:30.000 They know they see threats and one of the biggest threats against them is people coming together, realizing that they have a lot more in common than they have different and working together towards helping themselves, benefiting themselves, but also not becoming victims to the machine, the system, the multinational corporations, the government, whoever it may be.

01:37:48.000 I think it's obviously a fact that people are getting screwed over more than ever.

01:37:52.000 You can't deny that.

01:37:53.000 How best can you keep them in a way where they don't notice it?

01:37:57.000 Keep them in a A constant state of fear, of fighting, of not knowing what's going to happen tomorrow, and I think this is the stage that we're at right now.

01:38:08.000 Yeah.

01:38:08.000 No, I agree with that.

01:38:09.000 And I also think that this great suppression on social media is something that they've been very patient about and has been in the works for a while, because this has been the chink in the armor for quite a while. 1.00

01:38:22.000 Like, if you were to look at the establishment... Another...

01:38:27.000 Great economist!

01:38:29.000 Great economist!

01:38:30.000 You're trying so hard!

01:38:30.000 I really am.

01:38:31.000 It's so hard for me.

01:38:32.000 It's like I could do the first half hour pretty good, but after that it's really hard.

01:38:34.000 You're breaking down.

01:38:35.000 But this great economist Bob Murphy made this hilarious video years back.

01:38:39.000 This must have been like 2013.

01:38:41.000 And he was like mocking being the advisor to the ruling elite.

01:38:46.000 Like if he was going to come in and basically give them a report of what his advice to them to do is.

01:38:52.000 And he's like, okay, ruling elite, by the way, doing a great job.

01:38:56.000 You control the currency, you control public education, you control the corporate press, you control the military, you can bomb whoever you want to.

01:39:03.000 You guys are really just doing an unbelievable job.

01:39:05.000 But you've got this problem.

01:39:07.000 And it's the internet.

01:39:09.000 And like, there's this really big issue here.

01:39:10.000 And it's not just that somebody can say on social media, Hey, I think Hillary Clinton is completely full of it.

01:39:18.000 But then people can also look at it and go, Huh, that got 10,000 likes.

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:22.000 There's 10,000 more people who agree just with me and just with this guy.

01:39:26.000 And this has been the biggest Achilles heel for the ruling elite.

01:39:30.000 And so of course they have to try to plug this up.

01:39:33.000 So, for all the negative stuff that we were saying before about social media, which is all very real, it is also kind of our only hope.

01:39:41.000 It's kind of our only hope that some of these ideas can spread without the gatekeepers.

01:39:45.000 You know what, man?

01:39:46.000 There was a meme or video put out by a left-wing personality of people setting up a guillotine in front of, it was like, Was it Guatemala?

01:39:55.000 Mexico.

01:39:55.000 Yeah, they set up a guillotine in front of a government building and they were like, you know, hey, the right, we could be doing this together.

01:40:05.000 And I'm kind of like, well, I'm not a fan of the Robespierre style, just randomly pulling people out of government buildings or anything like that.

01:40:11.000 And I think we need trials because trials make a statement to the people about what we tolerate.

01:40:16.000 But yeah, the left and the right don't like what the establishment is doing, and the right and the left absolutely could at least agree on that much and say, how about we all vote for one thing?

01:40:27.000 You know, it's interesting that we saw, you know, Brett Weinstein's Unity Party get censored.

01:40:31.000 Because they don't like that over target.

01:40:34.000 They don't like exactly.

01:40:35.000 They don't like that stuff.

01:40:36.000 I mean, look, there has to be together.

01:40:37.000 There are some issues, right, that you just you couldn't imagine would not get overwhelming support.

01:40:45.000 And like like just to take one really easy one and corporate welfare.

01:40:49.000 Yeah. 0.51

01:40:50.000 I mean, you cannot tell me that no more corporate welfare, every freaking billionaire in this country is on welfare. 0.66

01:40:57.000 So don't give me arguments. 0.84

01:40:58.000 Don't give me arguments about socialism versus capitalism.

01:41:02.000 This is the absolute worst of both that no one supports.

01:41:05.000 I got to give a shout out to shoe on head because she tweeted, she said, Raitos, this is what Bezos took from you.

01:41:11.000 And it was parlor shut down.

01:41:12.000 And she was like, how about we get revenge by redistributing his wealth?

01:41:16.000 I thought it was hilarious because I'm like, I'm sure a lot of conservatives are going to be like, do it.

01:41:20.000 Yeah, well, that's right.

01:41:22.000 But at the very least, even if you're not advocating going and taking what they have, how about don't take from the middle class taxpayers and give to them?

01:41:30.000 Exactly.

01:41:30.000 I mean, can we at least like you can't tell me that wouldn't get 90 plus percent approval, but no one is.

01:41:36.000 There's no political will to do it.

01:41:38.000 The bailouts, the big banks from all these different companies.

01:41:42.000 But really, the omnibus bill was kind of like It was no longer that people were being pissed on and being told it was raining.

01:41:49.000 They were now looking up and seeing who was doing it.

01:41:53.000 And I'm like, left and right, you guys can hug on this one, right?

01:41:56.000 And be like, look, you can argue about whether or not someone's the right identity or whether they hold the right beliefs, but can we all agree right now they're peeing on us and we should stop them from doing it.

01:42:06.000 Then afterwards, we'll take a shower, we'll get some new clothes, then we'll go back to arguing.

01:42:11.000 But for the time being, you can see what's going on, right?

01:42:13.000 I said on my show, and it was like, you know, a couple weeks before the Capitol building thing, but I said it felt like they were daring the American people to revolt.

01:42:25.000 Like it felt like after nine months of locking people in their home, destroying businesses, and they're sitting here going, we'll give you 600.

01:42:35.000 All right.

01:42:35.000 I mean, I guess we could consider giving you a little bit more than that.

01:42:38.000 By the way, Israel's up to three billion this year.

01:42:41.000 Are you actually daring people?

01:42:44.000 Because you are pushing people to a direction where, understandably, they're going to lose it.

01:42:49.000 But they don't care, you know why?

01:42:51.000 Because they know that an individual will react emotionally without strategy that will benefit them.

01:42:57.000 Yeah.

01:42:57.000 In the end, storming the Capitol gave them everything.

01:43:00.000 Everything.

01:43:01.000 Trump said, peacefully cheer on politicians, because Trump, I genuinely believe, thought

01:43:05.000 that they were going to go and he was going to get his complaints heard at the joint session.

01:43:10.000 Well, wouldn't you even think his...

01:43:12.000 Did you listen to...

01:43:13.000 He's a dog...

01:43:14.000 Well, I'm sure you listened to the phone call that got put out that he had with the Secretary

01:43:18.000 of State of Georgia.

01:43:20.000 And it was one of the things to me, and I've basically been saying for a while, you know, this thing that I said earlier, that Trump isn't what the left projects onto him.

01:43:26.000 He isn't what the right projects onto him.

01:43:27.000 He just is what he is.

01:43:28.000 He's what we always knew he was.

01:43:30.000 He's Trump.

01:43:31.000 But even for me going in like that, I was so blown away how much he was just Trump on the phone call.

01:43:36.000 There was no direction even.

01:43:39.000 There was no plan.

01:43:40.000 There wasn't like, okay, listen, we need to focus on these three counties and if we do

01:43:43.000 this, we can take it to this court and then I can get this overturned. 0.99

01:43:45.000 And then he literally just goes on like a rant for 15 minutes at the beginning and he

01:43:49.000 goes, you know, we had the biggest crowds and all the polls said we were going to lose

01:43:53.000 big and they were all wrong and I think we did tremendously well.

01:43:57.000 And you're like, oh my God, even behind closed doors.

01:43:59.000 He's just the exact same guy.

01:44:01.000 He has no other gear.

01:44:03.000 So I don't really know that there, I think the plan was in Trump's mind, he's like, I'm

01:44:08.000 tremendous. 0.99

01:44:09.000 Biden's a loser. 1.00

01:44:10.000 There's no way he won. 1.00

01:44:12.000 This whole thing's rigged. 1.00

01:44:13.000 I'm gonna keep calling it stupid until I'm president again. 1.00

01:44:17.000 And there was really no more specific plan than that. 0.99

01:44:19.000 It was just, like he always does, I'll tremendous an insult my way into a second term.

01:44:25.000 I don't know if he was actually thinking about where it was going.

01:44:28.000 I think he was just expressing himself, complaining, and telling his supporters over and over again how he felt.

01:44:33.000 And then, what did he really say?

01:44:34.000 We're gonna march peacefully and cheer for some politicians.

01:44:37.000 But people had already been storming the Capitol.

01:44:39.000 So what ends up happening then is these people made a serious tactical error thinking that you could use violence.

01:44:45.000 You know, I had a lot of people in the comments say, oh, but Tim, look at these historical moments.

01:44:48.000 And I'm like, bro, they didn't have Twitter back then.

01:44:50.000 They didn't have YouTube.

01:44:50.000 They didn't have social media.

01:44:52.000 You really have to think about this, OK?

01:44:55.000 You go back.

01:44:57.000 Man, this is crazy to think about.

01:44:58.000 Watching Pirates of the Caribbean, right?

01:45:00.000 He comes up on that, in the first movie, the boat's sinking and he jumps on the dock.

01:45:04.000 He walks up and the guy says, what's your name?

01:45:06.000 And he goes, uh, Smith.

01:45:07.000 And then he gives the guy money.

01:45:09.000 And I'm like, why did he pay him?

01:45:10.000 They don't have IDs.

01:45:11.000 He could have literally just said Smith and carried on.

01:45:13.000 But like, we're in this day and age where we assume identity is like...

01:45:18.000 You know, it's always proven, because you always carry the ID, that you'd have to bribe someone.

01:45:22.000 No, you'd literally just lie, and they could not prove it.

01:45:25.000 They'd take your word for it, and there was just more trust, I suppose.

01:45:28.000 But also think about what life was like back- You ever play Red Dead Redemption?

01:45:31.000 Or Red Dead Redemption 2?

01:45:33.000 I mean, there's like, in the Wild West, if you were in the middle of the desert, and you saw a dude, and you just killed him and took his stuff, no one would ever find out.

01:45:41.000 We're in the information age.

01:45:42.000 Everybody knows exactly what's happening, and people don't tolerate those kinds of things.

01:45:46.000 They didn't then, they don't now, and now everyone can know about it.

01:45:50.000 Which means you win by having the moral high ground and proving you are just and correct and right, and outwitting your political rivals.

01:45:58.000 Yeah.

01:45:58.000 Not by running in, yelling, and banging on glass, and then they point at you and say, they're the problem and this proves it.

01:46:03.000 You made a very good point talking about how it was almost as if the establishment was asking for trouble with that $600 debate that was maybe $2,000, but we also have to understand this is on the backdrop of a lot of these politicians saying you must be locked down, you must stay inside, your business must close, you must lose your life.

01:46:23.000 and how you lived it normally before as I go out to a restaurant and spend thousands of dollars indoor dining.

01:46:31.000 I'm gonna get my hair cut.

01:46:32.000 I'm gonna do what I want as of course people were just left losing everything in front of them and we still haven't dealt with the significant financial ramification that is still not here for that huge large event.

01:46:44.000 It's gonna be on for years, dude.

01:46:45.000 I was just driving around the other day on the Upper West Side of New York City where I used to live for years.

01:46:53.000 And I was, like, heartbreaking.

01:46:55.000 I mean, like, I was, like, getting choked up driving.

01:46:57.000 One out of every four stores that I used to go to, and, like, I know these people.

01:47:01.000 I knew their families, like, a bunch of family businesses.

01:47:04.000 They're gone.

01:47:04.000 This is, like, the first home that I brought my daughter back to from the hospital, and the little, like, bodega we used to go to, and this restaurant, and this.

01:47:13.000 These are real people's lives who have been destroyed.

01:47:15.000 And then these people who would attack you.

01:47:19.000 They'd attack anybody if they were out in the street.

01:47:21.000 You remember the, what was it, on MSNBC or CNN, when they're like, look, this guy's not wearing a mask, and he goes, your cameraman's not wearing a mask.

01:47:27.000 Right, right, right.

01:47:28.000 You know, and then had the video, had the cell phone video to prove it.

01:47:31.000 And then, oh my god, there's kids on the beaches, probably, by the way, the safest place you could possibly be, on the beach.

01:47:36.000 And then all of a sudden there's riots, and you're told, no, that's okay.

01:47:39.000 Or a politician going out to dinner.

01:47:41.000 That's okay.

01:47:42.000 So yeah, by the end of the year, I understand where people are ready to lose their minds.

01:47:47.000 How could you not understand?

01:47:49.000 We gotta go to Super Chats.

01:47:50.000 Well, just really quick.

01:47:51.000 According to the science, it was Black Lives Matter that stopped the spread of COVID. 1.00

01:47:55.000 That was the University of Colorado, I believe.

01:47:57.000 Boulder.

01:47:58.000 So we just need a little bit more riots and it'll all die.

01:48:00.000 They said, I forgot what their logic was, but that the protest for Black Lives Matter resulted in more people being indoors, which slowed the spread, which makes no sense because they were all outdoors. 0.99

01:48:09.000 Well, let's, uh, let's jump.

01:48:10.000 You would think they would be celebrating the Capitol attack.

01:48:12.000 Let's do it.

01:48:13.000 Let's jump to super chats.

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01:48:46.000 We got Red Dragon, he says.

01:48:48.000 Oh, this is what I actually mentioned earlier.

01:48:49.000 He says, Trump is the best president of our lifetimes and should be tried for war crimes, both unironically true. 1.00

01:48:55.000 And we talked a great deal about that.

01:48:56.000 And I, I mean, good point.

01:48:59.000 Yep.

01:48:59.000 Scott Hale says, wish I could travel through timelines where the Trump, where Trump wins the election and see how the left reacts and the news justifies it, just how drastically it would be different.

01:49:08.000 I mean, I definitely think so.

01:49:10.000 The stuff we're hearing from like Project Veritas of what these people were saying about if Trump wins, It was going to be worse than what we're seeing now.

01:49:18.000 No question.

01:49:19.000 Let's see.

01:49:20.000 McHatton.

01:49:22.000 Talking about Bitcoin so much.

01:49:24.000 If you have no internet, you have no money.

01:49:26.000 Bitcoin is shadow steel.

01:49:28.000 Make people change money, then shut down access.

01:49:30.000 Look how easy ATT bomb took out major region, except Bitcoin can be put in cold storage and transferred offline.

01:49:36.000 There are ways to do it.

01:49:39.000 Let's see.

01:49:41.000 And for that matter, it's like, you could burn money.

01:49:43.000 Like, you could destroy physical paper.

01:49:45.000 Look, someone could hack your account.

01:49:46.000 There's a lot of security issues with everything.

01:49:48.000 FDR just came and rounded up people's gold.

01:49:50.000 I mean, the government can do a lot of stuff if they want to.

01:49:53.000 Yep! 0.80

01:49:54.000 Trent Lamalino says, Dave is the reason why I joined the Libertarian Party. 0.98

01:49:57.000 Dave hit them with the skank's hands. 1.00

01:49:59.000 P-O-T-P. 1.00

01:50:03.000 The Libertarian Party, man, I love that meme.

01:50:05.000 Libertarian ideals versus Libertarian candidates.

01:50:07.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:50:07.000 Yeah, of course.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, but I'll tell you, man, that's beginning to change.

01:50:12.000 There's this, uh, the Mises Caucus in the Libertarian Party.

01:50:14.000 It's like, it's an insurrection.

01:50:17.000 Not an insurrection, but an insurgency, I'll say, within the Libertarian Party that's really making it the home of, like, the Ron Paul revolution, and I'm a big part of that, and I highly recommend people check that out.

01:50:28.000 For borders or against borders?

01:50:30.000 Well, the basic libertarian position is that borders should be private, essentially.

01:50:37.000 I mean, that's like the true anarcho-capitalist position.

01:50:40.000 I don't know if the Mises caucus has like a plank on borders, but what they focus on is like hardcore Ron Paul issues, end the lockdowns, end the wars, end corporate bailouts, all that like really good libertarian stuff.

01:50:52.000 Highly recommend people go check out the Mises Caucus in the Libertarian Party.

01:50:56.000 Drew Jones says, so glad you got Dave on.

01:50:59.000 I'm very grateful to have someone like him carrying the cultural torch for libertarianism.

01:51:03.000 He should be a regular with Luke.

01:51:05.000 Oh yeah, you know, whenever.

01:51:06.000 Come on down. 0.94

01:51:07.000 What is Skank Nation? 1.00

01:51:10.000 Oh, it's my comedy podcast.

01:51:12.000 It's called Legion of Skanks. 0.96

01:51:13.000 Legion of Skanks. 0.80

01:51:14.000 With Louis J Gomez and Big Jay Oakerson.

01:51:16.000 Two funniest people on the planet.

01:51:20.000 Political Pothead says, What's good, Dave?

01:51:22.000 I live in Staten Island and just switched my party affiliation to Libertarian.

01:51:25.000 I voted for Larry Sharp.

01:51:26.000 Since New York needs school choice, McConnell doesn't understand his base.

01:51:30.000 Trump's approval is up since Capitol.

01:51:32.000 In some polls, in some polls, it's way down.

01:51:35.000 Depending on which one you look at.

01:51:37.000 Which polls do you trust?

01:51:37.000 Rasmussen has him up, and, you know, Politico has him way down.

01:51:41.000 Yeah, who knows.

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 Are you familiar with Larry Sharp?

01:51:45.000 Yeah, Larry Sharpe ran for governor in New York.

01:51:48.000 Great guy.

01:51:50.000 It's a pretty tough uphill battle to run as a Libertarian in New York, but he called out Cuomo.

01:51:54.000 It was pretty beautiful.

01:51:54.000 Beautiful.

01:51:55.000 Mr. Beard says, Wyoming here.

01:51:57.000 Congrats to Liz Cheney on her last term. 1.00

01:52:00.000 She is out in two years.

01:52:01.000 Let's hope.

01:52:02.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:52:05.000 Shalom, I don't know, OutMezguin says, GOP is dead.

01:52:10.000 Time for a new party or make Libertarian a real party.

01:52:13.000 I mean, maybe that's the path.

01:52:15.000 The problem is, you know, we had, um, who was the woman?

01:52:19.000 I can't believe I'm forgetting her name.

01:52:20.000 No, I can.

01:52:24.000 No disrespect, but she came out with that statement about anti-racism, and I was like— Oh, did that stick out to you?

01:52:29.000 Did that one bother you?

01:52:30.000 Yeah.

01:52:30.000 No, I know.

01:52:31.000 I'm arguing with libertarians about this stuff.

01:52:34.000 When a libertarian says, you must do something, I go, whoa.

01:52:38.000 Wait a minute.

01:52:39.000 Doesn't the Libertarian party oppose civil rights law? 0.99

01:52:40.000 that was a really stupid uh... blunder that by the way i don't think was put 0.98

01:52:44.000 out by her i think was put out by whoever's managing your twitter but 1.00

01:52:47.000 there's no excuse for that when you're running a presidential campaign

01:52:50.000 uh... yeah that was a big mistake and that's that's not a party oppose civil

01:52:54.000 rights law like you're saying make discrimination legal well i think the

01:52:58.000 the libertarian party or i don't know what the but i don't know i was a

01:53:01.000 libertarians would oppose one aspect of the civil rights bill of about sixty

01:53:05.000 four which is that the forced integration of private business and and

01:53:09.000 And the woke left agrees.

01:53:11.000 It actually worked really well with what George Orwigan was saying, because in California they tried pulling that out of their constitution, the non-discrimination laws.

01:53:19.000 They absolutely want to discriminate.

01:53:21.000 They agree for totally different reasons.

01:53:24.000 So it's like, I guess maybe that worked.

01:53:26.000 Yeah, there were a lot of problems in the presidential campaign.

01:53:30.000 Jo Jorgensen is like a good person.

01:53:32.000 She just didn't run a good campaign. 1.00

01:53:34.000 Didn't she want Alan Dershowitz to be on the Supreme Court?

01:53:36.000 Yeah, she put that out and then apologized for it right afterward. 0.96

01:53:40.000 It was, look man, the campaign was just a mess.

01:53:43.000 And yeah, she put out a list of Supreme Court nominees and he was one of them and then everyone was like, what are you doing?

01:53:48.000 And then she was like, oh no, actually we take him off of it or something. 0.72

01:53:51.000 It was just ridiculous. 0.88

01:53:53.000 Oh. 0.98

01:53:54.000 There you go.

01:53:54.000 Yes.

01:53:54.000 when I was voting in Jersey, they had a thing on the back where it was like,

01:53:56.000 write in for like school board or whatever.

01:53:58.000 And I wrote in Ron and Rand Paul.

01:53:59.000 Cause I'm like, I'm not going to write in and like, I'm not going to vote for

01:54:03.000 someone I don't know or writing a name.

01:54:04.000 And so I'm like the only people I would actually trust not to make things worse

01:54:07.000 are the people who typically vote no on things.

01:54:09.000 That's the interesting thing about Ron Paul that I always really liked is that.

01:54:12.000 I disagree with him a lot on, on, you know, certain social and cultural issues, but

01:54:16.000 he was kind of like, I'm not going to.

01:54:17.000 to vote for empowering the government, and I'm like, okay, so then you're not going to

01:54:20.000 get in my way.

01:54:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:22.000 Like, you're not going to impose on me, so why should I care about what you personally

01:54:24.000 believe?

01:54:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:26.000 Which is really the way it should be.

01:54:27.000 And the truth is that even if you're a very culturally conservative person, all you have

01:54:34.000 to do is look at what the government has done to this culture.

01:54:38.000 They've completely destroyed it.

01:54:39.000 And so, look, there's nothing more destructive to community, to cultural bonds, to the tradition of family and religion than big government.

01:54:48.000 And this is how it always works.

01:54:50.000 Daniel Maxwell says, I do not think impeachment of President Trump is going to have the effect they think it will have.

01:54:55.000 It could instead blow up in their faces in the worst way possible, which is not good for anybody, but might be better than the alternative also.

01:55:03.000 I think it's a bad idea.

01:55:05.000 It's fruitless.

01:55:05.000 It's pointless.

01:55:06.000 They're not going to convict him in time.

01:55:09.000 If they're worried, you know, I see this meme where they're like, I rented out my pool house to my friend, and a bunch of his friends trashed the place.

01:55:17.000 Their lease is up in 20 days, or in two weeks.

01:55:20.000 Should I let him stay or kick him out now?

01:55:22.000 And everyone's like, duh, Trump should be impeached now.

01:55:24.000 Yes, the eviction process takes 30 days.

01:55:26.000 Even in the real world, the analogy makes no sense.

01:55:29.000 You can't evict someone right now.

01:55:31.000 You have to give them a notice, and then you go through a court proceeding.

01:55:34.000 And then you know what happens when you try to evict them?

01:55:36.000 They can actually stay longer.

01:55:37.000 People don't get this.

01:55:38.000 They could challenge it and ask for a continuation.

01:55:39.000 And the judge might say, sure.

01:55:41.000 So if they're up in 14 days, maybe just sit back and say, well, they'll be gone soon.

01:55:44.000 They're planning on leaving.

01:55:45.000 They're not happy about it.

01:55:46.000 They're going to trash the place. 0.80

01:55:47.000 I get it.

01:55:48.000 But the alternative could be worse.

01:55:50.000 There also seems to be no interest.

01:55:53.000 Do you remember when Jordan Peterson was on Bill Maher and he kind of like stumped the whole left-wing panel when he was just like, so what's the plan?

01:56:01.000 You guys want to get Trump out.

01:56:02.000 What's the plan for the tens of millions of people who voted for him?

01:56:04.000 Like, how do you bring them back into society?

01:56:06.000 And they're all like, um, well, and it seems like there's really no plan.

01:56:10.000 Like, no one's concerned about the fact that 74 million people just voted for this guy, and you want to now, like, undo the will of the last 63 million people who voted for him.

01:56:20.000 And it seems like they have no interest in trying to bring those people back in the fold.

01:56:23.000 They want to squash them.

01:56:25.000 Rita Ho says, shout out to Luke for bringing up Taiwan. 1.00

01:56:28.000 We have been on our own all my life and will continue to fight.

01:56:31.000 By the way, will Biden challenge 2A?

01:56:33.000 And should we expect civil war from this if he does so?

01:56:37.000 Yeah, I mean, that's one of the big clash points.

01:56:39.000 Well, look, he wants to ban online sales of firearms, accessories, and ammo.

01:56:44.000 He's now got the Senate and the House, and they are going to pass sweeping gun control legislation.

01:56:49.000 It is going to get bad.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, for all of us who have been saying for a while, and I'm guilty of this, who are like, you know, look, they'll never come after the guns because that'll be a civil war and they would never overreach that much.

01:57:01.000 You're like, I don't know.

01:57:02.000 I mean, they locked everybody in their house all year and no one really did anything about it.

01:57:06.000 So maybe they will.

01:57:07.000 Trump went after the guns and banned bump stocks.

01:57:10.000 He pretty much made a population of the United States felons overnight with just a decree going further than the ATF ever even wished to go.

01:57:19.000 Yeah.

01:57:20.000 Akipat says, Tim, Dave, the problem wasn't simply that Trump didn't understand.

01:57:24.000 It's true he isn't primarily intellectual.

01:57:26.000 It's that he doesn't have the connections.

01:57:28.000 He isn't a connected, cool political insider.

01:57:30.000 They hate him.

01:57:31.000 Classism.

01:57:32.000 No, but you know what?

01:57:33.000 That's still kind of a cop-out.

01:57:36.000 Donald Trump put Douglas McGregor in as the top advisor at the Defense Department after the election.

01:57:45.000 That this was the guy to put in to end the wars.

01:57:48.000 This is, like, the guy.

01:57:49.000 If you don't know him, go look into him.

01:57:51.000 He is the military genius guy who wants to end all of these wars.

01:57:56.000 Trump knew who to put in.

01:57:57.000 He just decided to put him in at the end.

01:57:59.000 He didn't bring him in at the beginning.

01:58:00.000 He brought Bolton in before he brought that guy in.

01:58:03.000 Do you know that the American conservative wrote an article?

01:58:05.000 I think it was... Who does that?

01:58:07.000 Is that... Who's the guy who does that?

01:58:08.000 The American conservative?

01:58:09.000 I'm not sure.

01:58:10.000 It's been a while since I read the article.

01:58:11.000 He said, fire Bolton, hire Tulsi Gabbard.

01:58:13.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:14.000 You know?

01:58:15.000 She's going to stop this stuff.

01:58:16.000 And Trump, Trump had people around him.

01:58:19.000 He had Brad Parscale telling him to get on parlor in early 2020 and Trump didn't do it.

01:58:24.000 You know why?

01:58:25.000 He listened to Kushner.

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:27.000 I roll yikes.

01:58:29.000 Too bad.

01:58:30.000 They would have been huge.

01:58:31.000 And I've been saying it the whole time, all Trump has to do is join any other social platform, and they won't be able to ban it.

01:58:36.000 Because it would be too big, it would be too much, but Trump didn't do it.

01:58:40.000 They were so... The Republican Party, Donald Trump, and all of these people just did not understand what was happening in this country.

01:58:48.000 It is mind-boggling.

01:58:50.000 88 million people would have followed.

01:58:51.000 Yeah, and it would have changed the landscape and rebalanced things.

01:58:55.000 That one move of Trump being like, from now on, I'm going to be posting on Minds.com.

01:58:59.000 Boom.

01:59:00.000 Change the landscape of social media, create real competition, and simmer tensions down between everybody.

01:59:05.000 The media would be forced to report on what's happening on other platforms.

01:59:09.000 Instead, Trump finally waits until the very last minute, gets nuked, and then can't do anything about it because then they go after Parler before he has a chance to even sign up.

01:59:15.000 Yep.

01:59:16.000 Jeez.

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01:59:37.000 And we're going to create some new emails.

01:59:40.000 But send us that info and then we'd love to take a look at coffee companies.

01:59:43.000 That'd be fun.

01:59:45.000 Brandon Icock says, Hey Dave, somebody I used to look up to supports the LP but disagrees with monetary policies they support.

01:59:53.000 Said the Fed serves a purpose and voted for McCain as a conservative.

01:59:57.000 Would this put him in the loser brigade? 0.88

02:00:00.000 Well, I don't know about the Loser Brigade, but, I mean, voting for McCain and supporting the Fed are two just damn near unforgivable things to do. 0.87

02:00:09.000 But, no, look, I mean, the Federal Reserve is basically the center of this whole banking cartel.

02:00:17.000 So if you really want to take on this system that is extrapolating all of this wealth – what's the word I'm looking for on extrapolating?

02:00:24.000 Awesome Humans has been lurking the Q sites to see what it's all about.

02:00:27.000 stealing from the American people and giving it to this this cartel.

02:00:32.000 This is literally it's it's the lifeblood of the warfare state of the

02:00:36.000 welfare state so that's the center of it and has to be opposed.

02:00:40.000 Strong-armed robbery I think they call it.

02:00:42.000 Yeah there you go that works.

02:00:44.000 Awesome Humans has been lurking the Q sites to see what it's all about.

02:00:47.000 They're seriously gaslighting people and creating fervor.

02:00:50.000 Y'all see that Alex Jones video?

02:00:52.000 Where he finally snaps and he's like, YOU'RE LYING!

02:00:58.000 Yeah.

02:00:59.000 Good for him.

02:00:59.000 But who did he snap on?

02:01:00.000 He snapped on like two people.

02:01:03.000 I saw Tim Dillon tweet it.

02:01:05.000 He goes, imagine where you are at life when Alex Jones is yelling at you to calm down.

02:01:11.000 It's just so funny.

02:01:12.000 For real.

02:01:13.000 It's crazy.

02:01:15.000 So, you know, for a long time I didn't know a whole lot about it, but since it's become more recognizable and more prominent, especially with the Capitol stuff, Yeah, I know.

02:01:21.000 reading that they claimed Mueller was secretly working for Trump the whole time and that

02:01:26.000 it was a plot to arrest Hillary Clinton or something.

02:01:28.000 And I'm like, why would you believe that?

02:01:31.000 They talked about bombing Iran being a good thing and I'm like, are you kidding me? 0.99

02:01:35.000 It's just, it was just a whole lot of nonsense though.

02:01:37.000 And I've seen people share with me, I've seen people who are left share Q stuff.

02:01:42.000 And I'm just like, they don't realize.

02:01:44.000 They don't know what it is.

02:01:45.000 No joke.

02:01:47.000 Like, I guess you've got these crazy conspiracies.

02:01:50.000 Who are we talking about with this?

02:01:53.000 Were you just saying it earlier, the left and the right?

02:01:55.000 Oh, no, no, no.

02:01:55.000 It was a super chat the other day where they said, there are people who think that Trump is dog-whistling secrets to them about supporting him for his attempt to keep the election, while the left secretly thinks that he's dog-whistling to his Russian masters that he's actually a spy.

02:02:07.000 Both of these groups have lost it.

02:02:09.000 Yeah, like it's not happening.

02:02:10.000 And the truth is he's just bragging about his crowd sizes.

02:02:13.000 Right, right.

02:02:15.000 There was so many people there.

02:02:16.000 They loved me.

02:02:17.000 The radical left came.

02:02:19.000 It was all them.

02:02:20.000 I think it's crazy that Donald Trump does that thing where he like, he does the pinched fingers.

02:02:24.000 And from that, you got people doing the okay sign.

02:02:27.000 And so at some point you had, I think it was Stephen Miller straightening his shirt and they were like, look, he's doing a double white power sign.

02:02:33.000 It's like.

02:02:34.000 You know what my problem is? 0.98

02:02:36.000 That the social media will ban all the Q people and claim it's because, you know, we don't allow the conspiracy stuff, but the left is going nuts with the exact same garbage.

02:02:42.000 Yeah, and the other problem is that there are real conspiracies, and then anybody who wants to talk about them in a serious manner Ends up being labeled with all of this other stuff.

02:02:52.000 I mean, there are like, I mean, look, getting us into the war in Iraq was a conspiracy.

02:02:56.000 This was really a small cabal of people who lied us into a war.

02:03:00.000 But then anytime you use the term conspiracy theory, now everybody's thinking about these genuinely paranoid schizophrenic people who believe this crazy stuff.

02:03:09.000 You know what, man? 0.73

02:03:10.000 And so, when I started seeing people I've known for a long time posting unhinged Q-level garbage because they hate Trump so much they'll believe anything that comes out of, you know, someone's social media account, I was like, man. 0.57

02:03:23.000 Now I, like, dude, I know some people who went full flat earth. 0.72

02:03:26.000 And I'm like, how?

02:03:28.000 How do you believe the Earth is flat, dude?

02:03:31.000 And they do.

02:03:32.000 And I know people who believe that Trump really was a Russian spy and, like, you don't understand.

02:03:36.000 And I'm like, what happened to you, man?

02:03:39.000 Donald Trump is the guy from the TV who talked about firing people.

02:03:43.000 He wasn't working for Russia when he was on The Apprentice, bro.

02:03:45.000 Yeah.

02:03:46.000 What happened?

02:03:47.000 And I see all that and I'm like, man, now I totally understand why they're like, we want to ban all of these people and shut it all down.

02:03:52.000 The only problem is they don't ban the left.

02:03:55.000 Well, the reality is I'm not in favor of any of it.

02:03:57.000 Let the people say the crazy so that we can ridicule it and mock it and explain to people why it's wrong.

02:04:03.000 When they ban these people, they push them into these corners where they can only regurgitate the same thing. 0.81

02:04:09.000 And the whole thing that's so ridiculous is that these are the same people who preach about democracy.

02:04:15.000 And so you're like, OK, well, listen, if the good ideas can't win out in a free discussion, then how do you expect people have the power to vote for the leaders who are going to determine the policy of what is allowed to be said?

02:04:27.000 Like this is also either people are capable of doing this in a society, in an open society, or we're not.

02:04:34.000 And it doesn't work.

02:04:34.000 And in that case, you should just support like a dictatorship or something like that.

02:04:38.000 But obviously, we all know the problems associated with that.

02:04:41.000 So let's let all the ideas be expressed and let the good ones win out.

02:04:44.000 I saw a tweet and they said, I can't remember who it was, they said, at some point will the left reflect on the fact that if you have to suppress people's conversations and ideas in order to maintain, you know, your ideology, there's something deeply flawed with your ideology?

02:05:00.000 No, they won't.

02:05:01.000 They'll just, they believe in subjective morality and they don't think, you know, they believe truth, there's no truth but power and things like that, so they'll just do what they want to be in power.

02:05:12.000 Don, uh, Denine S says, Ben Shapiro made this point, but as a Gen X, I can attest that there

02:05:18.000 has been growing hatred for the right for decades.

02:05:20.000 Republican politicians don't fight back.

02:05:22.000 When Trump ran for president, people finally saw someone who will hit back.

02:05:26.000 Yep.

02:05:27.000 That's for sure.

02:05:28.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:05:30.000 It was a weak punch.

02:05:31.000 Chris Brown says, for having Dave Smith on the show, the Libertarian philosophy and NAP is the only hope for a better future.

02:05:38.000 It's very likely the greatest accomplishment in human history.

02:05:40.000 It is a philosophy that is underrated by everyone.

02:05:43.000 I agree in many ways, and I wish we had more people who adhered to it.

02:05:48.000 The challenge I see is, a lot of countries don't.

02:05:50.000 Like, China's never gonna agree.

02:05:52.000 Or they'll tell you they do, like, oh yeah, you're right, non-aggression principle, that's great, and they'll go behind your back and You know, undermine your economy. 0.51

02:05:58.000 Well, look, I mean, the non-aggression principle is a principle.

02:06:01.000 It's a moral principle that says it's immoral to initiate violence against peaceful people.

02:06:06.000 That's not to say that everybody's going to abide by it. 0.95

02:06:09.000 But truthfully speaking, a huge part of the rise of China and the fall of the United States of America is that while we're waging war after stupid war after stupid war, they're going around and investing in places. 0.91

02:06:23.000 And this is why we have an expanding empire that is destroying our country, and they have been much more stealthy in this. 0.97

02:06:30.000 Now, their human rights violations are, you know, abhorrent and awful, and I think there's a strong argument that we shouldn't work with the Chinese government in any capacity that can help them. 0.99

02:06:40.000 You know, I really like Jimmy Dore, because I feel like he's one of the very few legitimate, like, telling the truth about how he feels and what he wants.

02:06:48.000 Very lefty.

02:06:49.000 Totally for Medicare for All.

02:06:50.000 But he calls out the wars, the corporation, the crony politicians.

02:06:53.000 And then I look at a lot of these progressive personalities and they just tow the establishment line, but they add in Medicare for All.

02:06:59.000 Yeah, we agreed.

02:07:00.000 They'll be like, we like Bernie!

02:07:01.000 Go Joe Biden!

02:07:02.000 Woohoo! 1.00

02:07:03.000 I'm like, uh-huh.

02:07:04.000 Yeah.

02:07:05.000 No, the thing that I love about Jimmy Dore, and I definitely disagree with him, particularly

02:07:08.000 on some economic stuff, but the thing that just makes me want to salute him is that Jimmy

02:07:14.000 Dore is like, if he supports someone because they're against the wars, and then they go,

02:07:19.000 ah, well, I mean, I guess I kind of think we should fight this war.

02:07:23.000 He will just rail them the next day.

02:07:25.000 He is about his principles and he doesn't fall into any of the tricks.

02:07:32.000 That dude's really strong to what he believes in.

02:07:36.000 Somebody mentioned Pelosi is missing from Congress.

02:07:38.000 Have you heard that?

02:07:39.000 No, I'm not seeing it.

02:07:40.000 I remember seeing a hashtag.

02:07:41.000 Somebody said it had been two days since she's been there.

02:07:44.000 I mean, is that a big deal?

02:07:45.000 Yeah, I don't even know if that's normal or not.

02:07:48.000 How long does she usually go? 0.96

02:07:49.000 They often have pro forma sessions and then just disappear.

02:07:51.000 She's probably just getting a haircut.

02:07:52.000 Yeah, no doubt.

02:07:53.000 She's at the salon.

02:07:54.000 She's out partying.

02:07:55.000 I mean, maybe.

02:07:56.000 They're big victory.

02:07:57.000 Gareth Green says, do you know anything about the housing crisis in California?

02:08:00.000 Policies to protect property values and so forth are quite rampant.

02:08:04.000 It's classist, if not racist.

02:08:06.000 I actually don't.

02:08:07.000 I know they have a serious homelessness problem.

02:08:10.000 Cost of living is insane.

02:08:12.000 All right, let's see.

02:08:13.000 Kyle Cameron says, you guys are so wrong, it hurts.

02:08:15.000 The Republicans' comeback is 2024.

02:08:18.000 Someone also said, though, that Trump is center-left and that if they can't run him, then they're doomed.

02:08:23.000 Trump is moderate.

02:08:24.000 That's, you know, even I mentioned this, Vox.com wrote an article calling him a moderate back in, I think, 2016.

02:08:30.000 Yeah, there wasn't really too much that was super radical about Trump's policies that he proposed, especially compared to other presidents.

02:08:39.000 I think it was more like his personality and stuff like that.

02:08:42.000 But yeah, he was kind of like an 80s Democrat.

02:08:45.000 I mean, like, yeah, I'm kind of skeptical about wars.

02:08:47.000 I want to control immigration because it drives down wages. 1.00

02:08:50.000 I'm not really into these free trade deals.

02:08:52.000 I mean, that could have been an 80s Democrat.

02:08:55.000 Yep.

02:08:55.000 Let's see.

02:08:56.000 Max Mulvihill says, thanks for having on Michael Malice's Better Half.

02:09:04.000 Let's see.

02:09:05.000 Ryan says, BuzzFeed News is reporting Capitol Memaw was not taken at the D.C.

02:09:09.000 riot, but a picture taken in Topeka, Kansas.

02:09:12.000 Yes, I heard that.

02:09:13.000 Correction.

02:09:15.000 Aw.

02:09:16.000 We had that photo of that little old granny waving a little flag, and everybody thought it was at the Capitol, and that's my bad.

02:09:20.000 I should have looked into it.

02:09:21.000 I just made that assumption because, you know, I wasn't paying attention.

02:09:24.000 Doing a better job.

02:09:25.000 I was sad to lose that one.

02:09:27.000 Yeah, that was good.

02:09:29.000 Super cute.

02:09:31.000 I mean, it's still a good picture.

02:09:32.000 What was she doing?

02:09:33.000 She was protesting in Topeka?

02:09:34.000 Yeah, I guess.

02:09:37.000 All right, let's see.

02:09:37.000 Nelson Karayanis says, Are you guys familiar with Foucault's Boomerang?

02:09:43.000 What are your thoughts on the idea?

02:09:44.000 Also, I feel historically we are closer to the Reformation era, with the internet being the new printing press. 0.56

02:09:50.000 Are you familiar with that Foucault's Boomerang?

02:09:52.000 I think I've heard of it before, but I don't know.

02:09:54.000 Not familiar.

02:09:55.000 Yeah, I'm not.

02:09:56.000 Path of resilience just said spot-on Tim.

02:09:58.000 I don't know to which you are agreeing with but everything fantastic.

02:10:01.000 I love it Mike Mr. Hunt first name Mike says didn't come here to watch Didn't come by to read comments.

02:10:11.000 I just read the title and we'll express what we all know powder keg No one is considering the real horror of all of this while they the left do terrible things, you know Let's see.

02:10:22.000 The Nickerman says, thanks Tim Fool, amen, and a woman brother. 0.99

02:10:29.000 All right.

02:10:29.000 All right, let's keep going.

02:10:33.000 Falcun says, Trump needs to start a MAGA party.

02:10:36.000 Let the Republicans figure out where to get votes when we all leave and that's all that's left our establishment voters.

02:10:42.000 Yeah, they'll get like 10% of what they got before.

02:10:45.000 I think Trump's the one man right, like the right now, the person who can break the two party system.

02:10:50.000 I really do think so.

02:10:51.000 Yeah, but the issue is that Donald Trump has now been silenced on social media. 0.99

02:10:56.000 Donald Trump is 75 and fat.

02:11:01.000 And I'm just saying that's it's just that's not the best position to be in now to start something. 0.99

02:11:08.000 I'm not like just saying it to insult him.

02:11:10.000 I'm just saying he doesn't have Twitter anymore.

02:11:12.000 He doesn't have a TV show anymore.

02:11:13.000 So he's got to figure out now if he's going to be the guy to lead some big movement going forward, how he gets his No, he makes the endorsement and his son runs it, or his sons run it.

02:11:22.000 And then they encourage all the supporters to say, if you support, you know, Donald Trump and everything he stood for, then we're going to be pressing a new party because the GOP did not have our backs.

02:11:31.000 And we're going to send a message.

02:11:32.000 And I'll tell you this, there are a lot of people, what I've been basically hearing is people saying, if you've already lost to the Democrats and expect to lose again, vote for a new party because the Republicans don't deserve your support.

02:11:44.000 Yeah, I've heard a lot of people saying that too.

02:11:46.000 I just, I gotta say, I think that we're gonna see the Trump family get crushed.

02:11:51.000 I think they can't let them, they just can't let these guys maintain this because this is the only group that really poses the immediate threat to them right now.

02:12:00.000 And I think we're going to see them all silenced on social media, and I really wouldn't be surprised if they try to bring criminal charges against Trump.

02:12:05.000 Not just that, I mean people are looking at sedition and conspiracy charges for being at the Capitol facing at least 20 years.

02:12:12.000 That's going to send a very big chilling effect to a lot of people.

02:12:15.000 Yeah, sure will.

02:12:16.000 Stefan Luna says, Joe Jorgensen made Gary Johnson look like Murray Rothbard.

02:12:20.000 That's saying a lot.

02:12:24.000 That's a big statement there.

02:12:25.000 I don't know quite if I agree.

02:12:27.000 I 100% agree with that one.

02:12:29.000 Brittany Hart says, Larry Sharp 2022 or 2024?

02:12:31.000 I voted for him in 2018.

02:12:34.000 He's got the best Liberian ideas.

02:12:39.000 No, it says Liberian.

02:12:42.000 I've always said Larry Sharp is a solid Liberian.

02:12:47.000 Oh, what a poor country.

02:12:50.000 Danny Decibel says, Hey Tim, have you reached out to David Barton yet and invited him onto your show?

02:12:55.000 I'm not familiar.

02:12:56.000 David Barton?

02:12:57.000 I'll look him up.

02:12:59.000 Um, McColl Petnaik says, we need to play the same game as the establishment.

02:13:03.000 Tell all the leftists that it's the banksters and Federal Reserve that are the true racists and super racists and supremacists, and how much richer we'd all be without them.

02:13:11.000 I mean, that's, that's true, though.

02:13:14.000 Yeah.

02:13:14.000 If you want to talk about wealth redistribution, maybe it's time we just say, you know what, leftists?

02:13:18.000 We agree.

02:13:19.000 The Fed is ripping everybody off.

02:13:21.000 You want to talk about wealth redistribution and universal health care?

02:13:24.000 Here we go.

02:13:26.000 Then you'll see how fast your show gets banned from the internet.

02:13:27.000 No joke.

02:13:29.000 It's today.

02:13:29.000 You know, on today's episode, we're going to start with what we normally say.

02:13:32.000 Everybody should unite around the Federal Reserve and then they'll ban you.

02:13:36.000 All right.

02:13:36.000 Let's see what we got.

02:13:38.000 Spaceman says, read The Demon in Democracy by Ryszard Legutko.

02:13:43.000 Great podcast.

02:13:44.000 Thank you.

02:13:47.000 Let's see.

02:13:49.000 Karna Handan says, Who does Dave learn all his foreign policy knowledge from?

02:13:56.000 Well, I mean, I give a shout out to Antiwar.com.

02:14:01.000 They're fantastic.

02:14:02.000 The Libertarian Institute, the Libertarian Institute.org, Antiwar.com.

02:14:08.000 I mean, I learned a ton of it from Ron Paul, Noam Chomsky.

02:14:12.000 I think Glenn Greenwald's done great work on this.

02:14:16.000 Jeremy Scahill's done great work on this.

02:14:20.000 Pretty much the whole foreign policy staff at Cato is really great.

02:14:24.000 You know, like Cato, I don't agree with all of their stuff, but their foreign policy team is really solid.

02:14:31.000 Cool.

02:14:31.000 I guess that's it for now.

02:14:32.000 Yeah, okay. 0.99

02:14:32.000 It's just so stupid and infuriating, and I've been battling with other libertarians about this for a while. 0.99

02:14:36.000 Look, here's the thing, right? 1.00

02:14:38.000 Libertarians' greatest attribute is our autism, and our greatest flaw is our autism.

02:14:40.000 IP protections that last 70 years and things like Section 230. 1.00

02:14:43.000 Yeah, okay, it's just so stupid and infuriating and I've been battling with other Libertarians 1.00

02:14:49.000 about this for a while. 1.00

02:14:50.000 Look, here's the thing, right?

02:14:52.000 Libertarians' greatest attribute is our autism and our greatest flaw is our autism.

02:15:01.000 So it's like Libertarians have this autistic thing where, and this is why we have like 1.00

02:15:04.000 the best arguments for why raising the minimum wage actually hurts low-scaled workers because

02:15:08.000 because they've really thought about this purely.

02:15:10.000 But the problem is that then they get trapped in this world where they're not being human beings, and they're going like, well, it's a private company, so a private company has a right to discriminate.

02:15:20.000 And it's like, yes, okay, but what you're not understanding is that this libertarian principle will kill the future of libertarianism.

02:15:28.000 Exactly.

02:15:29.000 Look, here's the truth, okay?

02:15:31.000 You have to view things, and this is why I really do like this term and think it's useful, through the lens of the cathedral.

02:15:38.000 The state is not simply the government and government employees.

02:15:42.000 It's the deep state, it's the corporate press, it's academia, and it's big business that are crony capitalists, and it's big tech.

02:15:51.000 They're all working together and doing each other's bidding.

02:15:54.000 They're not separate things.

02:15:55.000 They're all one thing.

02:15:56.000 And I think that what might wake some libertarians up is seeing Ron Paul get messed with on Facebook.

02:16:02.000 Because do you really now... Remember, you ever hear that Karl Marx line?

02:16:07.000 Or he said, the capital, I don't remember exactly, but it's like the capitalist will

02:16:10.000 sell us the last piece of rope we can use to hang him.

02:16:14.000 And there is some genius to that, right?

02:16:16.000 So it's like, libertarians, do you really want to be in the position of defending big

02:16:20.000 tech's right to silence Ron Paul?

02:16:23.000 Because that's pretty self-defeating.

02:16:25.000 I need someone to make the meme of, you know, they do the thing where the person looks normal

02:16:29.000 and there's four panels and they slowly change over time in each panel.

02:16:32.000 And it's like my reaction watching big tech censor the patron saint of libertarianism.

02:16:36.000 And then their face slowly starts turning into a communist flag.

02:16:39.000 Yeah.

02:16:40.000 Well, look, at the very least, and I don't, I'm not calling for any type of government

02:16:44.000 action.

02:16:45.000 Like I know there are people who are calling to like nationalize these industries.

02:16:48.000 I think that's a crazy plan.

02:16:49.000 Like I gotta be, you know, the idea that like, oh, if we nationalize it, then.

02:16:53.000 Then they have to live up to the Constitution because, of course, the government always lives up to constitutional protections.

02:16:59.000 Like, I think that's crazy.

02:17:00.000 But at least criticize it.

02:17:02.000 Don't just sit there and be like, well, they have a right to do it.

02:17:05.000 They're being protected by the government.

02:17:06.000 Well, yes.

02:17:07.000 And so... Take it away!

02:17:08.000 No, not just that.

02:17:09.000 They're not private entities.

02:17:10.000 They're quasi-state entities that work with the government.

02:17:13.000 Today, Facebook and Twitter worked with the State Department to bring back free speech in Uganda, of all places.

02:17:21.000 So you look at In-Q-Tel, you look at the government contracts, you look at the tax subsidies, these are entities that only exist and only have monopolies because of government.

02:17:30.000 That's the issue.

02:17:31.000 No, you're absolutely right.

02:17:32.000 But I do think that in the same sense that like, what I mean by the autism thing is it's like, if I actually, Malice used this example, but it was like if a restaurant like served you cold, rotted food and the libertarian went, well, they're a private company.

02:17:46.000 And it's like, well, why is your response to say they're a private company?

02:17:49.000 The response should be, this is awful.

02:17:51.000 Don't serve this.

02:17:52.000 This is terrible.

02:17:53.000 But I do think, honestly, I think your podcast on Rogan, when you basically told Jack Dorsey and whoever that lawyer lady was to their face and just destroyed them in that debate, I think that's the most powerful thing.

02:18:07.000 We need a lot more of that.

02:18:09.000 People exposing them.

02:18:11.000 My respect to them doing it.

02:18:13.000 I genuinely believe they thought that they were going to walk in and it was going to be like, here's why we banned Milo.

02:18:19.000 And then I would go, oh, well, I guess.

02:18:21.000 Oh, they had no, they were not prepared.

02:18:23.000 I remember one part.

02:18:23.000 I mean, it's been a little while since I watched this, but there was one part where you like just went on this awesome little like rant, just destroying their entire worldview.

02:18:32.000 And she just gave you the most corporate, like she was just silent for a minute.

02:18:35.000 And then she went.

02:18:36.000 Thank you for your feedback.

02:18:40.000 We will discuss that with our team.

02:18:42.000 And you're like, oh man, that is really weak.

02:18:45.000 There was like a point where I knew we had to go in to start talking about specific individuals, and then we got to the point where I said, at what point did you become the arbiters of what opinions are allowed in public discourse, removing people based on your ideals and things like that.

02:18:59.000 Yes.

02:18:59.000 And I thought that was a really important part of the conversation they didn't expect.

02:19:02.000 They thought it was going to be like, we ban this person.

02:19:05.000 Because I think they genuinely believe their worldview is the universal worldview.

02:19:10.000 So like when I explained the misgendering thing, the leftists don't get it.

02:19:13.000 This is the thing about the left not understanding the right and the right understanding the

02:19:17.000 The right knows what the left thinks when they talk about misgendering.

02:19:19.000 The left doesn't understand what the right thinks when they talk about misgendering.

02:19:23.000 And trying to explain that didn't work.

02:19:25.000 And the most important point I thought that you were making was that you're so biased that you don't see it as a bias.

02:19:31.000 Exactly.

02:19:31.000 You just see it as, well, obviously this is the wrong thing to do, so we're not biased, we're against the wrong thing to do.

02:19:37.000 And you're like, no, it's your bias that makes you think this is the wrong thing to do.

02:19:40.000 Well, ask them specifically about body dysmorphia.

02:19:43.000 There's very similar symptoms to people who have dysphoria and dysmorphia.

02:19:47.000 And I said, are you going to start protecting people who are criticized when they want to cut their hands off?

02:19:50.000 I'm not trying to say it's the same thing.

02:19:52.000 No, it's just taking this to the logical conclusion.

02:19:56.000 If we're going to do this for the reasons you're saying, then why not this?

02:19:59.000 Well, we protect all groups that are experiencing some kind of body dysmorphia.

02:20:04.000 Or will you only limit it to your ideological point of view?

02:20:07.000 Or towards the groups you feel should be protected?

02:20:10.000 Because I'll tell you this, if you want to protect the trans community, then I'll say, absolutely, I think it's a noble cause, and I completely respect it.

02:20:16.000 Can we talk about the other groups that need those same protections?

02:20:19.000 Well, the answer was apparently no!

02:20:21.000 So I was like, then there's no consistency in your ideology.

02:20:24.000 I don't think they even recognize that.

02:20:26.000 For sure.

02:20:26.000 Grant Henley says, I love Dave, been a fan since 2012.

02:20:29.000 I was an exchange student in Taiwan and they hate China.

02:20:32.000 They are very much like Hong Kong and US citizens.

02:20:34.000 They're actually protesting for Trump.

02:20:36.000 Yeah, they're marching for him.

02:20:39.000 Food negotiator says David Wright.

02:20:40.000 Dave is right.

02:20:42.000 Although Trump had the resources to crush the establishment and reach people as an outsider, he still lacked the real philosophical principles to go anywhere with the momentum.

02:20:52.000 You know, it is in many ways a shame that it's like to get the kind of personality and power to become president.

02:21:01.000 Trump had that, but he didn't have, as you and they mentioned, the philosophical principles.

02:21:09.000 A Rand Paul, I don't think, you know what I mean, with all due respect, because I like Rand Paul, I don't think he has the X factor to be president.

02:21:16.000 No, I mean, look, Rand Paul ran.

02:21:18.000 He was in that same race.

02:21:20.000 It's the great tragedy of the whole situation.

02:21:23.000 Donald Trump was the only weapon that would work.

02:21:26.000 He was just he was rich enough and famous enough and rude enough and aggressive enough

02:21:31.000 to be the one who could beat him.

02:21:34.000 But then that tool didn't actually know how to wield power.

02:21:38.000 It's so funny.

02:21:39.000 Like we were saying downstairs before.

02:21:40.000 It's like, you know, they call him a dictator.

02:21:42.000 Not one person got put in jail for trying to frame him for treason.

02:21:46.000 They framed him for treason and he couldn't get one person in jail over that.

02:21:51.000 And they put his people in jail.

02:21:52.000 Yeah.

02:21:53.000 Yeah.

02:21:54.000 That's the angry bell sprout says Trump should have started a locals and charged reply guys

02:21:59.000 $20 a month to abuse him.

02:22:00.000 Uh, for those that aren't familiar, so Dave Rubin has locals.com where you can basically create your own, you know, like your own social network where people go and it's just you and your followers and your subscribers.

02:22:09.000 So it really cuts out the bots and stuff.

02:22:10.000 Good idea.

02:22:11.000 I like it.

02:22:12.000 Uh, I'm doing my own website, timcast.com, which is basically similar, but it's mine.

02:22:16.000 But could you imagine if Trump signs up there and then all of the people who hate Trump subscribe and pay money because they can't let it go and they need to hear what he has to say.

02:22:26.000 That would be amazing.

02:22:27.000 He'd make a ton of money.

02:22:28.000 There you go, Trump.

02:22:29.000 That's your path.

02:22:30.000 Nathan Daniel says, remember we used to say, say whatever you want.

02:22:34.000 It's a free country.

02:22:35.000 Yeah.

02:22:35.000 Memories.

02:22:36.000 Mm hmm.

02:22:38.000 Funny.

02:22:39.000 Let's see.

02:22:40.000 Zar Qasim says, Tim.

02:22:42.000 Hey Tim, food for thought.

02:22:43.000 Everyone talks about the situation as being 1984.

02:22:46.000 Consider sometime the idea and influence of Animal Farm on the establishment regressive left.

02:22:50.000 I think it explains Cuomo, etc.

02:22:53.000 Interesting.

02:22:53.000 Cuomo is now in favor of opening things up, now that the electoral college has been, their votes have been counted.

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02:23:43.000 Shale Karras says first ever super chat if you have Dave Smith on more the more I'll be a donate Dave shout out

02:23:50.000 TWLV MNM are Well, I don't know what that is. I didn't follow that part 0.90

02:23:55.000 at the end, but I liked the general spirit of it Yeah, for sure. We'll definitely have Dave on he's here now

02:24:00.000 Tanner minor says speaking of conspiracies in the Federal Reserve

02:24:04.000 How do you all fear feel about the theory that the Titanic was sunk?

02:24:08.000 Intentionally so that many rich men died and the reserve was made off of that. I don't know the whole thing

02:24:13.000 I only know the Titanic switch theory I haven't heard that.

02:24:17.000 I never heard that.

02:24:17.000 I just only, you know, I only have room for so many conspiracies in my head.

02:24:21.000 And when someone brings me a new one, I'm like, I just, I don't have it in me, but you might be right.

02:24:26.000 They're fun.

02:24:27.000 It's fun to like play kind of game of like mind Sudoku with these stories.

02:24:30.000 But I just look, you can only, you can only believe so much or you need evidence and stuff.

02:24:34.000 And so when someone comes to me with some fantastic story, I'm just like, I, I think it's fun, but you know, I'm not going to base my life around it.

02:24:41.000 But I'll look into that.

02:24:42.000 That's fun.

02:24:42.000 Sounds like a cool movie for sure.

02:24:44.000 Yeah.

02:24:45.000 So Wyatt Belt says, Tim, going back to when you were talking about gun reform, how long do you think before H.R.

02:24:50.000 127 becomes law?

02:24:52.000 Do you guys know what H.R.

02:24:53.000 127 is?

02:24:53.000 No.

02:24:53.000 I'm not familiar.

02:24:55.000 No, I'm not.

02:24:56.000 You want to look it up, Luke?

02:24:57.000 I can look it up.

02:24:58.000 H.R.

02:24:59.000 127.

02:24:59.000 We will check that one out.

02:25:01.000 Oh, is that Cory Bush's thing?

02:25:03.000 What is that thing?

02:25:03.000 House Resolution 127 about banning all of the guns?

02:25:07.000 Punishing the Republicans?

02:25:08.000 What does that have to do with gun control?

02:25:09.000 To provide for the licensing of firearms and ammunition possession.

02:25:13.000 You have to get a license to buy ammo?

02:25:16.000 Yep.

02:25:17.000 Wow.

02:25:17.000 Yep.

02:25:18.000 How will that work?

02:25:18.000 Will it be like, you know what'll happen though?

02:25:20.000 So this is, this is what it's called, uh, to provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

02:25:31.000 Whoa.

02:25:32.000 Yeah.

02:25:32.000 So there you go.

02:25:34.000 Interesting.

02:25:35.000 Oh, that's going to pass.

02:25:35.000 I think it'll pass immediately.

02:25:37.000 They've got control of everything.

02:25:38.000 It's going to just go right through.

02:25:40.000 Great.

02:25:41.000 Yeah, this'll be fun.

02:25:42.000 People are going to get real mad.

02:25:45.000 Warren Dent says Ann Coulter says Rand Paul is too short to be president.

02:25:50.000 Yeah?

02:25:51.000 She might be right.

02:25:53.000 I don't know.

02:25:54.000 Yeah, he's not tall.

02:25:54.000 She's the highest.

02:25:56.000 He's not tall.

02:25:56.000 But Ann Coulter is tall.

02:25:58.000 She's very tall.

02:25:59.000 She's a very tall lady. 1.00

02:26:01.000 Yeah, she might be right about that.

02:26:03.000 It's not something you can trust.

02:26:04.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:26:04.000 source says I got here too late to my favorite podcasters Dave turned him

02:26:08.000 libertarian what does that mean like libertarian right though I mean I don't

02:26:13.000 I don't know I don't really to me I don't really consider myself right wing

02:26:17.000 but every left winger considers me right now like a libertarian centrist yeah I

02:26:22.000 I guess I don't really know.

02:26:24.000 Honestly, I think of libertarian as its own thing.

02:26:28.000 Like, Walter Block is a great libertarian.

02:26:30.000 He always says it's the third leg on the stool.

02:26:32.000 There's like the right, the left, and then this is its own kind of thing.

02:26:35.000 It is, yeah.

02:26:36.000 And that's how I look at it.

02:26:37.000 But then, of course, if you're just not a leftist, pretty much every leftist thinks you're a right-winger.

02:26:43.000 Like, that's just how it works.

02:26:45.000 I mean, it's hilarious to me.

02:26:46.000 I saw the thing with that Vausch guy or whatever was like, well, you're a far-right guy, and you're like, do you really?

02:26:52.000 Like, is that your conception of the far-right is you?

02:26:55.000 That just seems so bizarre to me.

02:26:57.000 A mixed-race, pro-universal healthcare, like... 0.85

02:27:02.000 Yeah.

02:27:02.000 Yeah, liberals easy way I can put it. Yeah, how many times have I gone have I done podcasts where I've explained my

02:27:07.000 position on supporting Universal basic health care supplemented by private

02:27:12.000 insurance and I'm like that's not right-wing. It's probably it's like center-left leaning

02:27:16.000 It's it's a little bit more into left than just left of center, but it's not far far left 0.74

02:27:20.000 Well, actually it is fairly far left actually to be honest I mean you're like you oppose like some of the like crazy

02:27:25.000 excesses of the woke stuff, but like culturally, politically, there's nothing about you that's

02:27:31.000 far right.

02:27:32.000 It's just if you're not in lockstep with them, then that's the only box you have to be put in.

02:27:37.000 That was funny.

02:27:37.000 When he called me far-right, I was like, dude, did you read a meme board that called me far-right?

02:27:43.000 Because I talked about border protections or something, and it was like that was the only thing you heard about me.

02:27:48.000 Because Bernie Sanders was in favor of it.

02:27:50.000 Oh yeah.

02:27:51.000 Bernie Sanders came out in, I think, 2018 and he was like, we gotta have border security.

02:27:55.000 Well, there's one interview, I think it's earlier, like in 2016 or something, where Ezra Klein, this is before he got big into the presidential runs and he was just being honest, and Ezra Klein asked him if we should support open borders.

02:28:07.000 And Bernie Sanders goes, what?

02:28:09.000 No.

02:28:10.000 That's a Koch Brothers big corporation policy.

02:28:13.000 Because what are you talking about?

02:28:15.000 You want to like, which by the way kind of makes sense from Bernie's perspective, because it doesn't, well it also just doesn't jive with any of his policies.

02:28:21.000 Like look, you can argue, and I think fairly consistently, that if you have like no welfare state, none of that stuff, then you can have an Ellis Island situation where people come in.

02:28:32.000 But if you have, if you have like health care, housing, education, all of these things paid for by the taxpayer, And open borders?

02:28:40.000 They're impossible to work together.

02:28:43.000 This goes back to what we were talking about with Occupy Wall Street and the left becoming fractured and all that stuff.

02:28:47.000 I supported Bernie Sanders in 2016.

02:28:49.000 The wokeness wasn't a big element of his campaign.

02:28:52.000 He opposed the trade agreements.

02:28:53.000 He was for the working class.

02:28:54.000 He said open borders is a Koch Brothers proposal.

02:28:57.000 And I was like, this Bernie guy has been consistent.

02:28:59.000 He's been in government.

02:29:00.000 He knows how the system works.

02:29:02.000 And he's calling it out.

02:29:03.000 And I liked it.

02:29:04.000 And then he got on stage and said, white people don't know what it's like to be poor.

02:29:07.000 And I was like, what?

02:29:09.000 And there are people who to this day still don't believe he said it, and I show them the clip.

02:29:13.000 And they're shocked by it.

02:29:15.000 Oh, he said it very blatantly.

02:29:16.000 He said, when you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor.

02:29:18.000 And I gotta be honest... And for a socialist to say this!

02:29:21.000 You're like, dude, really?

02:29:22.000 You don't understand that?

02:29:24.000 Let me introduce you to my Ukrainian friend.

02:29:26.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:29:27.000 So that was like... 0.74

02:29:30.000 Smack in the face, but I'm you know, it's crazy to me that someone like Vosh would call me far right and I'm literally Like still I was praising Bernie recently The problem I have is the wokeness makes no sense and it is hurting the working class and causing them to fight each other How does it make sense that a a black woman worth a billion dollars is more oppressed than a homeless white man? 0.52

02:29:48.000 Well, we're talking about supporting the bourgeoisie and that's what even throwing the proletariat out the window And it gets to the point where like, you know, when Michelle Obama gave her speech at the DNC, and she's talking right away, she's like, now I know some people disagree with me, of course, a black woman up here talking to you and blah, blah, blah, you know, and it's like, so you, your first thing has to be this strict identitarianism. 0.59

02:30:12.000 And because of racial and gender identity, you are a victim. 0.96

02:30:16.000 Lady, your husband was elected president.

02:30:19.000 Twice.

02:30:20.000 You're broadcasting from your Mar-a-Lago home.

02:30:23.000 You are talking to some truck driver, telling him that you're a victim.

02:30:27.000 This is like bananas.

02:30:30.000 This makes no sense.

02:30:31.000 And some of these people are politicians that are literally instituting policy, like we saw in New York City with the school chancellor, literally arguing that if you're a poor white person, resources should not go to you.

02:30:42.000 They should go to someone of color, no matter their wealth. 1.00

02:30:45.000 Just said the other day, he just gave a speech from the president-elect's little podium thing that he does, where he said our focus is going to be on black-owned businesses, Latino-owned businesses, and female-owned businesses.

02:30:58.000 Now, I'm sorry, that is so much more blatantly racist than anything Donald Trump's ever said.

02:31:04.000 I mean, can you imagine if Donald Trump ever just got up there and said, hey, this one racial group They're not our focus of help, but everybody else is.

02:31:14.000 Also Asians.

02:31:15.000 Yeah, they cut out Asians. 0.94

02:31:16.000 How dare they? 0.85

02:31:17.000 They're on Team White.

02:31:19.000 So I've been thinking about it, and I think a lot of these leftists, people like Vaush, are more pro-establishment than they are populist.

02:31:27.000 Because you have a choice between the establishment, pro-war machine, corporate lobbying, big banks, the theft of the working class, and Donald Trump.

02:31:35.000 And for me, the choice was Donald Trump.

02:31:38.000 Even though I lean left on policies, don't agree with Trump on a fair amount of issues, don't agree with conservatives on a fair amount of issues, but agree with, you know, anti-establishment principles and more populist causes, I'd rather see someone like Trump, who just, like you said, he doesn't hate these people.

02:31:53.000 It was like, for the first time, they experienced someone actually fighting for him.

02:31:56.000 And I'm like, that's better than Joe Biden.

02:31:59.000 He's not left.

02:32:01.000 He's going to gut the working class. 1.00

02:32:03.000 He's going to strip the wealth and privileges that the working class have fought so hard to try and accomplish and give it to his wealthy elites, the corporate lobbyists, the big banks.

02:32:12.000 So I won't accept that. 0.96

02:32:13.000 Then I see these leftists being like, but we have to stop Trump because he's a fascist. 0.91

02:32:16.000 I'm like, what are you talking about? 0.94

02:32:18.000 It's like, you know what, man?

02:32:20.000 You supported the corporatist, which is so much closer to fascist.

02:32:26.000 These people don't have any idea.

02:32:27.000 And then you're gonna come and tell me I'm right-wing.

02:32:29.000 Okay, dude.

02:32:31.000 Congratulations.

02:32:32.000 You just put this establishment, military, mass-murdering regime back in power.

02:32:38.000 So now when they start, one day these people are going to wake up, looking at their paychecks, looking at what's going on, and they're going to be shocked.

02:32:44.000 But I'll tell you what, most of them are just tribalists anyway.

02:32:47.000 It's not about policy for them, it's just about which side should or needs to win.

02:32:52.000 We spend a good deal of this show ragging on Donald Trump.

02:32:55.000 Because, look, as much as I often find myself in a defensive position for him, like you were mentioning, his critics are so insane, you're like, Donald Trump could walk up to a dog and scream at it, and you start going, whoa, whoa, whoa!

02:33:07.000 But then all of a sudden, you see a news report saying Donald Trump threw a puppy off a bridge, and you're like, no he didn't!

02:33:13.000 That never happened!

02:33:14.000 Trump never did that!

02:33:15.000 And look, why are you defending him?

02:33:16.000 Because he didn't do that!

02:33:18.000 I can criti- You know, so anyway, look.

02:33:21.000 I hope that the left and the right can actually find some common ground on populist causes, but I really do think it's mostly tribalist.

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02:35:11.000 I know a lot of people have been saying that.

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02:35:15.000 Yeah.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 13, 2021

Timcast IRL - McConnell And GOP Considering CONVICTING Trump And Removing Him w- Dave Smith

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