Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 16, 2020


Timcast IRL - McConnell BEGS Republicans To ABANDON Trump And Support Biden, w- Cass Fairbanks


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 28 minutes

Words per Minute

203.05875

Word Count

30,073

Sentence Count

2,424

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

44


Summary

After the Electoral College votes are counted, it's clear that President-elect Joe Biden won the presidential election. Now, the question is, will the rest of the race be decided by the Supreme Court? Will Mitch McConnell and the media accept this outcome, or will they continue to fight for Donald Trump? Plus, the latest on Julian Assange's request for a pardon from President Donald Trump.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you you
00:00:45.000 you yesterday the electoral college cast their votes and Joe
00:01:04.000 Biden won Interestingly, though, many states, seven states, saw the Republican slate of electors who were not elected to the Electoral College cast procedural votes.
00:01:15.000 That's the way they framed it.
00:01:17.000 And they did this because many of them said they wanted to keep Donald Trump's legal challenges active.
00:01:22.000 We've got Mo Brooks.
00:01:23.000 We've got a couple other Republicans saying they are going to dispute Joe Biden's electoral votes come January 6th.
00:01:29.000 Now, the mainstream media and many left-leaning organizations, media organizations, are saying it's over, it ended.
00:01:35.000 Betfair paid out their bets.
00:01:37.000 A bunch of Trump supporters are really angry about that.
00:01:39.000 And even Newsmax, Mitch McConnell, they've both said it's over, Joe Biden won, which is weird because January 6th hasn't happened yet, and the votes haven't actually been counted, and we're actually being told By members of Congress, they are going to dispute this.
00:01:54.000 Not that I think it's going to play out well.
00:01:57.000 Interestingly, though, Mitch McConnell is now essentially begging Republicans not to object.
00:02:03.000 So, Mitch McConnell never really had Trump's best interests at heart, and that's obvious because he's just another political establishment crony.
00:02:11.000 And I'm pretty sure Trump supporters are going to go nuts on him.
00:02:14.000 So we'll talk about this.
00:02:16.000 We've got some information pertaining to Michigan.
00:02:18.000 They're issuing some subpoenas.
00:02:20.000 Maybe there will be something coming out of these investigations.
00:02:22.000 We'll see how that plays out.
00:02:23.000 We've got a bunch of other stories.
00:02:24.000 We're going to be talking a bit about Julian Assange as well.
00:02:26.000 We're hanging out with Cassandra Fairbanks.
00:02:28.000 Hey.
00:02:29.000 How's it going, Cassandra?
00:02:29.000 Good.
00:02:30.000 Do you want to just like briefly explain who you are?
00:02:32.000 I am a reporter for Gateway Pundit.
00:02:34.000 I am also a really big supporter of WikiLeaks and Julian Assange.
00:02:40.000 And there's news today, right?
00:02:43.000 Yes.
00:02:44.000 Julian Assange has formally requested a pardon from President Donald Trump.
00:02:48.000 Is he going to get it?
00:02:49.000 I don't know.
00:02:50.000 I hope so.
00:02:50.000 It's gonna get spicy.
00:02:51.000 We'll talk about it.
00:02:51.000 We're also hanging out with Luke Rekowski, of course, who lives in my parking lot now.
00:02:54.000 Yeah.
00:02:54.000 What's the name of that uncle that lives in the RV in the National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation movie?
00:02:59.000 I don't know.
00:03:00.000 How old are you?
00:03:01.000 He's that guy.
00:03:02.000 Eddie.
00:03:05.000 I am Uncle Eddie.
00:03:06.000 He is my spirit animal, but I also run the YouTube channel We Are Change.
00:03:09.000 Thanks for having me.
00:03:10.000 What about the guy from Napoleon Dynamite?
00:03:13.000 He's got his uncle, he's got the RV.
00:03:15.000 Rico?
00:03:15.000 Is that his name?
00:03:16.000 It's always Uncle Rico.
00:03:17.000 Uncle Rico.
00:03:18.000 That's great.
00:03:18.000 Ian's hanging out.
00:03:19.000 Hi everyone.
00:03:20.000 We moved him up.
00:03:22.000 He has a new setup.
00:03:22.000 I think I might be a little blue.
00:03:24.000 Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
00:03:25.000 This camera's just giving us the business.
00:03:27.000 And of course, Lydia's producing.
00:03:28.000 She's putting buttons.
00:03:29.000 You're in the corner pushing buttons.
00:03:31.000 Pushing all of the important buttons.
00:03:32.000 So, man, we got a bit to talk about.
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00:03:45.000 Let's first just read a bit of this first story so we can get to ragging on Republicans.
00:03:49.000 It's from the Daily Mail.
00:03:51.000 Forget Trump and move on.
00:03:53.000 Mitch McConnell pleads with his Senators not to force ugly vote in Congress on Joe Biden's Electoral College victory, warning them that it would split the party, despite President's demands for last-ditch fight to overturn election.
00:04:05.000 They say he said it was a terrible vote because Republicans would ultimately have to vote it down and would appear like an anti-Trump move.
00:04:12.000 Alabama- Oh, seriously?
00:04:13.000 Don't support Trump because it'll look like we're anti-Trump?
00:04:16.000 Alabama Representative Mo Brooks said he will formally challenge the Electoral College votes during congressional election certification on January 6th.
00:04:23.000 He insisted Tuesday that if all legal votes were counted and all illegal votes were thrown out, Trump would emerge as the real Electoral College winner.
00:04:31.000 Trump reposted an article Tuesday with Brooks' comments.
00:04:34.000 A senator would need to join Brooks and others in the House to officially launch deliberations on an Electoral College vote challenge.
00:04:41.000 McConnell, for the first time on Tuesday, called Joe Biden the President-elect, following the Electoral College cementing his victory on Monday.
00:04:47.000 The Electoral College has spoken, McConnell said on the Senate floor.
00:04:50.000 So today, I want to congratulate President-elect Joe Biden.
00:04:53.000 So this is why it matters.
00:04:55.000 You've got a ton of Republicans in the House that are saying straight up, we're going to get you a challenge.
00:04:59.000 They need a Republican senator to sign on with them.
00:05:03.000 If these... Okay, so we have these unofficial electoral votes.
00:05:08.000 It is what should have been, or I'm sorry, what would have been, the Republican elector slates decided to cast what they called procedural votes in the event that something happens and these elections are overturned.
00:05:19.000 Then they'll have those votes cast and available for certification.
00:05:24.000 If Mike Pence wants to potentially count those votes, theoretically, I guess he can.
00:05:30.000 Maybe it'll go to the Supreme Court, or they'll probably just throw it in the garbage.
00:05:35.000 I mean, they're unofficial, and look, the establishment very much is not in favor of Trump.
00:05:40.000 But Mike Pence is gonna have to choose for himself.
00:05:43.000 I mean, he's running as well.
00:05:45.000 If the Senate Republicans vote, and they choose these seven unofficial procedural votes, for some reason, maybe some information comes out, and the House chooses the official Electoral College as it stands now, then you've got a disputed election with both chambers disagreeing, and I don't know how Mike Pence would decide.
00:06:02.000 But if there's no dispute among any of these votes, then I don't see how we get anything other than Joe Biden winning.
00:06:11.000 So I don't know what you guys think, but I am not surprised Mitch McConnell is basically saying, don't support Trump in this effort.
00:06:16.000 Just let it go.
00:06:17.000 Joe Biden won.
00:06:18.000 What do you think?
00:06:19.000 I mean, Cassandra, you're a Trump supporter, yeah?
00:06:21.000 Yeah.
00:06:22.000 Well, there is precedent for those procedural votes going in in 1960 when John F. Kennedy was running.
00:06:32.000 They did a procedural vote away from the Democratic slate in Hawaii, I believe.
00:06:37.000 And 11 days after the certification, they ended up getting moving into Kennedy.
00:06:43.000 This was the Republicans claimed they won. They're like, we won, certification's over.
00:06:49.000 Bam, they stamped the official certified vote and sent the Republican votes to Congress
00:06:55.000 while legal challenges were still pending. A recount 11 days later found actually you didn't
00:07:01.000 win. So they had to then take the other procedural votes and then certify them.
00:07:05.000 Richard Nixon got both votes, both stamped with the governor's approval, and he said,
00:07:11.000 we're going to count the Democrat ones because of what happened. So that's possible. It could
00:07:15.000 happen right now. And it's really funny. I actually did a video the other day talking
00:07:19.000 about this and Facebook, I got one of those fake news flags saying my-
00:07:22.000 I would too.
00:07:24.000 But that, so, I, like, I basically said in the beginning of my video, these votes right now, they're unofficial.
00:07:30.000 They're not from the, you know, the governor.
00:07:32.000 But 1960, here's what happened.
00:07:33.000 So, look, my personal opinion is I don't think it's going to work.
00:07:36.000 I think they'll likely be thrown out.
00:07:38.000 And it was probably, you know, a symbolic vote.
00:07:40.000 Maybe Mike Pence says, these are not officially certified.
00:07:42.000 I'm not going to count them.
00:07:43.000 They labeled it fake news.
00:07:44.000 Actually, I got it lifted, though.
00:07:45.000 I emailed saying, like, what was wrong about anything I said?
00:07:48.000 And they're like, oh, well, I guess you're right.
00:07:50.000 And then they removed it.
00:07:51.000 But I bring that up because it's really weird.
00:07:54.000 It literally happened.
00:07:56.000 So you have these different electors and people voted for them.
00:08:00.000 The Democrat electors were the ones who were chosen to go to the statehouse and cast votes.
00:08:04.000 But the Republican electors who didn't, I guess they're arguing that they're not electors, they're electoral candidates.
00:08:10.000 That's what they claimed online.
00:08:12.000 Right, right, right.
00:08:13.000 Speaking, it's like a semantic argument.
00:08:15.000 You know what we mean.
00:08:17.000 Fine.
00:08:17.000 Electoral candidates for the Republican cast a procedural vote so it's on record.
00:08:22.000 And they're trying to shove it under the rug, say it's not happening.
00:08:24.000 But even now, if Mitch McConnell's on board, Newsmax is saying it, Betfair, this is really funny, Betfair closed the betting and paid out everybody who bet on Joe Biden, even though January 6th is the official constitutional day.
00:08:37.000 And so people, this is, this is interesting.
00:08:40.000 Betfair said that in the event Trump does somehow become president, they'll revisit this.
00:08:45.000 So now Trump supporters saying Betfair just placed a billion dollar bet that Joe Biden is, does have it.
00:08:51.000 I think it's a fair bet, to be honest.
00:08:53.000 But it is kind of interesting that they're, you know, willing to actually stake that considering January 6th hasn't come.
00:08:58.000 You would have think they would have just waited.
00:09:00.000 It would be so much easier just to wait.
00:09:01.000 It's a couple weeks.
00:09:02.000 Just don't even, like, it's a couple weeks back.
00:09:04.000 It's a couple weeks till, or you could wait till Inauguration Day.
00:09:07.000 Is it because they wanted to flesh out their books before the turn of the year?
00:09:10.000 Yeah, could be.
00:09:11.000 Yep.
00:09:12.000 Close out the books before the year's over.
00:09:14.000 How interesting would that be if like come January 6th, something happens?
00:09:18.000 Not only that, what if, you know, so Joe Biden was coughing, right?
00:09:21.000 Everybody saw Joe Biden coughing and they were like, he's got, he's got COVID, right?
00:09:25.000 What if the next president is Kamala Harris?
00:09:28.000 And Betfair is just like, oh no, everybody bet wrong.
00:09:30.000 And then they got to give it to all the Kamala people.
00:09:32.000 Well, the Senate minority leader comments are pretty interesting.
00:09:35.000 Chuck Schumer said that the Republicans should follow McConnell's lead and acknowledge that Joe Biden will be the next president of the United States.
00:09:43.000 And very interestingly, we also have to acknowledge Susan Collins and Mitt Romney are congratulating Joe Biden for his presidency.
00:09:52.000 Why Is is the bastion of
00:09:59.000 conservatism conservatism in our country That that's why it's I don't think it's gonna happen. Look
00:10:05.000 you've got what we say Murkowski and and no Susan Collins and Mitt Romney. Oh my god, look
00:10:11.000 There's a GOP that still exists?
00:10:12.000 you know, Van Borthem as well.
00:10:14.000 So what happens if these, you know, procedural votes do somehow make it to, you know, to
00:10:18.000 Congress?
00:10:19.000 You've got right there, these Republicans are going to be like, nah, nah, it's Biden.
00:10:24.000 The GOP is weak.
00:10:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:26.000 There's a GOP, it still exists?
00:10:28.000 I had no idea.
00:10:30.000 Well, I think this is their end.
00:10:32.000 Mitch McConnell just stood up and said, listen, if you're a Trump supporter who helped Republicans get elected, I have a knife.
00:10:38.000 Just turn around and let me put it in your back.
00:10:40.000 And that's exactly what Mitch McConnell did.
00:10:42.000 Because people, look, at the very least, they're just saying, please fight for us like we fought for you.
00:10:48.000 OK, maybe Trump's not going to win.
00:10:50.000 Maybe, you know, that's how many of them feel.
00:10:53.000 But at least give people the courtesy of saying, if we're going to turn out for you and get you guys elected, you can fight to the bitter end for Trump.
00:10:59.000 There's the constitutional procedures. They can challenge the votes they can lose and they can say look we tried we
00:11:04.000 did everything No, he's already like bye-bye and the best part is a couple
00:11:08.000 weeks out from the Georgia runoffs How many people now are gonna be like sacrifice Senate?
00:11:13.000 Yeah, don't let Republicans win. I mean I've been debating this internally for some time now because I
00:11:20.000 You know writing for Gateway and stuff. It's like I've had a lot of pressure to write pro
00:11:26.000 you know, pro-Georgia articles, like being like, hey, go vote.
00:11:31.000 But I don't want to.
00:11:35.000 I'm like, what has the GOP done for us?
00:11:37.000 Like, why should I do anything for them?
00:11:39.000 I'm not writing any of this.
00:11:40.000 I don't care.
00:11:41.000 But you're not a Republican, right?
00:11:42.000 No.
00:11:43.000 I'm a Trump supporter.
00:11:44.000 I am not a Republican.
00:11:46.000 I voted for Trump.
00:11:47.000 I support him in a bunch of some of the most important things any president has done, especially in my lifetime trying to get our troops out of the Middle East.
00:11:54.000 Not perfect, I know, Ian.
00:11:56.000 Drone strikes and all that stuff.
00:11:57.000 You read my mind, Tim.
00:11:58.000 Better than Joe Biden.
00:12:00.000 But I don't care.
00:12:01.000 That's a low bar, though.
00:12:02.000 That's a very low bar.
00:12:04.000 If you're making arguments saying better than Joe Biden, that's like saying better than like... I mean, yeah, but Kamala Harris is under that bar, so... Scraping your private parts on a family friendly show.
00:12:14.000 We're not going to go in there.
00:12:15.000 But I'm thinking of this one meme that I just saw recently, and it's a Rick and Morty meme.
00:12:19.000 And Rick is looking at a robot.
00:12:21.000 The robot is looking at him and is saying, what is my purpose?
00:12:24.000 The robot is the GOP.
00:12:25.000 And then Rick looks at him and he says, your only purpose is to sell red hats.
00:12:30.000 That's it.
00:12:31.000 And there's a point to be made there.
00:12:34.000 There's a total fracture of the right that hasn't been effective and some people say hasn't even been there and hasn't really changed things that much at all.
00:12:44.000 You know what Republicans are really good at?
00:12:45.000 They're Republican politicians, rolling over and exposing their soft underbelly to Democrats.
00:12:50.000 So when we had Michael Malice in here with Jones, he brought up a really, really, really interesting point.
00:12:55.000 He said Obama wanted, Obama got this with Obamacare, the individual mandate, forcing people by law to buy health insurance, otherwise you get a fine.
00:13:06.000 He said, okay, where's the right, where's the Republican saying, okay, then everyone has to buy a gun too.
00:13:10.000 That's the compromise.
00:13:11.000 If you want universal, everyone by mandate has to buy health insurance, well, Republicans should say everybody has to buy a gun, because gun ownership is a big conservative.
00:13:19.000 No, Republicans never do anything like this.
00:13:22.000 Republicans sit back and complain the Democrats did something, and then eventually just give in to the Democrats.
00:13:27.000 They, everybody says this and I know it's a cliche at this point, but the Republican Party is just the Democrat Party of five years ago.
00:13:34.000 All they're doing is supporting things that the Democrats supported five years ago.
00:13:38.000 They're just behind.
00:13:39.000 In five years, they're going to be like, hey, you want to go to our Republican drag queen story hour?
00:13:45.000 Yeah.
00:13:45.000 Isn't that already happening now?
00:13:47.000 Kind of.
00:13:50.000 They're going to, 100%.
00:13:52.000 In five years, they're going to be like, we think we need Mitch McConnell.
00:13:56.000 Well, I don't know if Mitch McConnell will still be in office in five years.
00:13:58.000 He will not be alive anymore.
00:13:59.000 How old is Mitch McConnell?
00:14:00.000 Old.
00:14:01.000 Old.
00:14:02.000 He is indeed.
00:14:03.000 Turtle old.
00:14:04.000 Turtle, he's going to be, okay, so he'll be really old, older than he is now.
00:14:07.000 I mean, that image that went around of his hands.
00:14:11.000 Like that?
00:14:11.000 I feel bad, you know what I mean?
00:14:12.000 Like, I think it's messed up when people made fun of him because he tripped at one time.
00:14:16.000 You guys remember that?
00:14:16.000 Yeah.
00:14:17.000 Because, what, he had polio when he was a kid or something, right?
00:14:20.000 Something like that?
00:14:20.000 I have no idea.
00:14:21.000 Was it not polio?
00:14:22.000 I don't know.
00:14:22.000 He had something so, like, he had a problem with his leg and he tripped and everyone was making fun of him.
00:14:26.000 I'm like, dude, I don't like the guy.
00:14:27.000 I never liked the guy.
00:14:29.000 But I'm not gonna rag on him or anybody else because they stumbled and, you know, that's messed up.
00:14:34.000 But in five years, they're going to be advocating for universal basic income.
00:14:38.000 He's going to be like, I've always been in favor of universal basic income!
00:14:43.000 And all the Republicans are going to be like, well, you know, it's something I got to fight for.
00:14:45.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats are in favor of like, you know, I don't even know how far left you go at that point.
00:14:50.000 How can you go further?
00:14:51.000 I don't know.
00:14:52.000 They'll manage.
00:14:54.000 They'll figure it out.
00:14:55.000 And the Republicans will manage to continue to lose gracefully.
00:15:00.000 Yep.
00:15:01.000 Yeah, that's that.
00:15:01.000 That's that's that's what we've got so far.
00:15:03.000 So what do you guys think?
00:15:04.000 What do you think Trump supporters are going to do?
00:15:06.000 I mean, what are you going to do?
00:15:06.000 Who are you going to vote for?
00:15:08.000 I don't know.
00:15:10.000 I mean, everybody's propping up Dan Crenshaw for 2024 and Nikki Haley.
00:15:17.000 I would rather I would vote for a literal communist just to make it all burn down before I would vote for either of those two neocons.
00:15:26.000 Like, I would just be like, burn it all down.
00:15:28.000 Go ahead.
00:15:29.000 You know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or whatever.
00:15:32.000 Do your thing.
00:15:34.000 Burn it down.
00:15:35.000 Don't care.
00:15:35.000 It's like the hard swing back and forth, left and right.
00:15:39.000 Yeah.
00:15:40.000 Send a message.
00:15:40.000 Vote for AOC, I guess.
00:15:41.000 I could see him starting a new political party.
00:15:44.000 I actually saw a poll recently that, I think it was something like 79% of Republicans said they would follow Trump to a new party.
00:15:52.000 He needs to do it.
00:15:53.000 We need it in this country.
00:15:54.000 The problem is, if the left doesn't start their own progressive party, then it's just going to split the Republican vote.
00:16:01.000 Good.
00:16:04.000 The people and they have the support for a progressive party.
00:16:06.000 They could easily do like a Bernie Sanders type party and split the Democrats and then we split the right and then there would be four.
00:16:14.000 Yeah, a populist anti-establishment party because there definitely seems that there is a political realignment and it's not working out in anyone's favor.
00:16:22.000 It's the establishment taking advantage of that and screwing everyone over and people are realizing it and that's why when me and Tim were talking about earlier today, we're like, I think there's gonna be another major Occupy Wall Street movement as you were telling me that some people on the far left might join people on the right and come together on their disagreements.
00:16:39.000 But not like they're gonna form one group together.
00:16:41.000 Yeah.
00:16:42.000 So we've got the autonomous zone in Portland where armed leftist militias have secured like four square blocks or something and they've set booby traps.
00:16:51.000 You guys see this story?
00:16:51.000 No.
00:16:52.000 They're running around with like AR-15s.
00:16:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:16:55.000 These people don't mess around.
00:16:56.000 I mean, you saw what happened in Chaz when they pumped 300 rounds into that white SUV killing those two teenagers.
00:17:02.000 Yeah.
00:17:02.000 Dude, more of that is gonna happen.
00:17:05.000 These people in Portland have taken this space because there's this house, they call it like the Red House Occupied Zone or whatever, Autonomous Zone.
00:17:12.000 This house was owned by a family and they're now being evicted because they couldn't pay their bills.
00:17:17.000 You know what, man?
00:17:18.000 I'm not gonna defend the state or the police on this one.
00:17:22.000 You can't shut people's businesses down, and then the cops come in and tell people they're not allowed to work, and then come back months later and be like, now we're taking your house.
00:17:29.000 It's like, nah.
00:17:29.000 Yeah, but didn't that family own another house that they're living in and get $300,000 from GoFundMe?
00:17:36.000 So this is where story cuts get interesting.
00:17:39.000 I think it's really cool they raised the $260,000 to pay for the house.
00:17:42.000 Right.
00:17:42.000 Congratulations!
00:17:43.000 That's awesome.
00:17:44.000 That's organizing.
00:17:44.000 That's how you help people.
00:17:46.000 That's how you do it.
00:17:46.000 But they do own another house not that far away, which is why the occupation is just, in my opinion, exploitation.
00:17:51.000 Right.
00:17:52.000 These people found an opportunity to seize territory and, you know, take space.
00:17:56.000 So I'm not in favor of them using that as an excuse.
00:17:59.000 But at this point, I don't know, man.
00:18:01.000 Watching all these cops, you know, enforce these unconstitutional edicts, not even laws.
00:18:06.000 Like, watching these videos where the cop is like, it's just the law, ma'am.
00:18:10.000 I have to do it.
00:18:11.000 And they're like, what law?
00:18:12.000 There's no law.
00:18:13.000 It was never passed by anybody.
00:18:14.000 The governor just told you to do it.
00:18:15.000 You're doing it.
00:18:16.000 And they do.
00:18:17.000 So I'm like, listen.
00:18:19.000 Why should I go and defend these blue cities that voted for this stuff, that agree with this stuff, and are now complaining about it?
00:18:25.000 I mean, I feel for the business owners who have lost their businesses, who are having their lives destroyed, absolutely, but they voted for all these people.
00:18:32.000 So back to Luke's point, in this one town in Washington, The mayor basically said, we are not, we are completely in defiance of the COVID lockdowns, and everybody can do whatever they want, live their lives like normal, and Patriot Prayer showed up in this big event.
00:18:49.000 That's basically, they're not calling it an autonomous zone, but saying that you were exempt from the state's laws and, I'm sorry, not laws, edicts, and you're going to operate independently.
00:18:59.000 Essentially, it's similar, not the exact same thing.
00:19:03.000 But what happens now if the state sends in police to shut it down and start shutting people's businesses down?
00:19:08.000 They're not going to support them.
00:19:09.000 And then what happens when, in Washington, they see this autonomous zone in Portland or whatever, why would they defend the cops shutting down that?
00:19:16.000 They're going to be like, I don't care, leave me alone.
00:19:19.000 Already on the Donald.win, which is the big Trump-supporting Reddit, they're mocking Michigan police officers because they kept out the electors, the Republican slate, from going into the Capitol building.
00:19:29.000 So I think it's entirely possible.
00:19:32.000 We get to a point where you see more cities like this doing, more towns like this doing this stuff.
00:19:35.000 When Biden gets elected, he's going to try and say stuff and the Republicans are going to, you know, the people, the regular people are going to be like, nah.
00:19:41.000 And Antifa's going to be like, why would we intervene?
00:19:44.000 And the right's going to be like, why would we intervene with them?
00:19:46.000 We don't live there and we don't have anything to do with them in the way they vote.
00:19:48.000 So then essentially you've got three factions, the establishment political apparatus, the populist left and the populist right.
00:19:56.000 And as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
00:19:58.000 If the left and the right aren't interacting in these towns or cities, why would they be opposed to each other?
00:20:02.000 Yep.
00:20:02.000 And a lot of low-information voters are about to get a very rude awakening with the corporatist presidency of Biden that just today announced two major Goldman Sachs executives as part of his administration.
00:20:15.000 And if you look at his administration, it's like who's who's of the family-friendly show here.
00:20:21.000 Of the underworld, of the greasiest, nastiest swamp creatures that could ever exist, that are even more disgusting behind Cassandra's back right there with that cartoon of Joe Biden eating a little baby.
00:20:34.000 That's somewhat based on reality, but that's a whole other topic of discussion to talk about here.
00:20:40.000 But we're talking about Goldman Sachs, we're talking about big tech, we're talking about big banks, we're talking about big corporatist institutions.
00:20:47.000 That are at the helm of major decisions for the United States in the upcoming future.
00:20:52.000 A lot of people are going to have a very rude awakening to that.
00:20:54.000 And with that, I think there's going to be another spur of an Occupy Wall Street movement, which I think is really going to be powerful, really going to be significant and something really to look out for.
00:21:03.000 You got like a hundred million people who hate Biden.
00:21:05.000 Every Trump voter and half of the Democrats.
00:21:08.000 It's just that those half hate Trump more.
00:21:11.000 But once Biden is the target, then they're going to bet, okay, now that we voted for you because we didn't like Trump, we really don't like you too.
00:21:18.000 I still can't get past the fact that Biden supposedly got more votes than Obama when half of the Democrats hate him.
00:21:25.000 Well, this is the thing.
00:21:27.000 Everyone we had on the show was biting their tongue and saying, Yeah, I voted for Biden.
00:21:33.000 It's horrible.
00:21:34.000 I didn't want to do it.
00:21:35.000 Well, not everybody.
00:21:36.000 Two people.
00:21:37.000 Well, that's everyone that I've been around when I was co-hosting for me, but everyone I talked to has the same sentiment.
00:21:44.000 They were bamboozled.
00:21:46.000 They were fooled to believe maybe something, but they knew deep down that something was wrong, and I think most of America knows that.
00:21:52.000 So we're going to see that play out in our social discourse very soon.
00:21:57.000 We already have Black Lives Matter tweeting at the Biden administration like, Hey, we were supposed to meet.
00:22:02.000 Hey guys, what's going on here?
00:22:04.000 The top prosecutor that sent innocent people away to jail knowingly.
00:22:10.000 Knowingly she knew she knew people were innocent.
00:22:13.000 She still made them rot in jail and ruin their lives.
00:22:15.000 I mean that is kind of brings me a weird sense of joy cuz I'm demented that black lives matter helped get That's the craziest thing it's like, you know what a lot of people we've had on and We're not even who have had on but like people who have come here and we've talked about When they say they vote for Biden, I'm like, oh, yeah, why?
00:22:38.000 Well, you know, Trump's bad for what?
00:22:40.000 What do you do?
00:22:41.000 Come on.
00:22:42.000 Come on.
00:22:42.000 Come on, man.
00:22:43.000 You can't you can't.
00:22:45.000 I can sit here and I can go through everything Trump's done in his family.
00:22:48.000 And we can talk about the emoluments clause and his and his resorts and his businesses.
00:22:51.000 You can talk about shady business dealings and all that stuff.
00:22:53.000 It doesn't compare to Joe Biden.
00:22:55.000 Now, if we're going to have like, you know, a turd sandwich versus a giant douche, I understand why people might be like, I don't know, man, I voted for Biden.
00:23:02.000 But if you're if so, these are low information people.
00:23:05.000 A lot of these people are young, like we had a dude on the other day, he's 24.
00:23:07.000 He doesn't know anything about the Joe Biden administration.
00:23:10.000 He was like a teenager not paying attention to when Joe Biden and Obama were in, and the horrible things they were doing.
00:23:16.000 It's like, you know the left was protesting Obama, right?
00:23:20.000 With, you know, Black Lives Matter started under Obama, Occupy Wall Street was under Obama.
00:23:24.000 He wasn't like this great left-wing leader that they're telling you now, and Joe Biden was a part of that.
00:23:28.000 It's like you're complaining about systemic racism, Joe Biden's the guy who's been in office for 47 years who made that stuff.
00:23:34.000 And helped facilitate these wars.
00:23:36.000 You don't got a good reason for voting for the guy.
00:23:37.000 I'm sorry.
00:23:38.000 I understand if you came to me and said I didn't vote for anybody, I'd be like, yeah, I get it.
00:23:41.000 But saying you voted for Biden?
00:23:42.000 Nah, there's no excuse.
00:23:43.000 You just didn't know what you were talking about.
00:23:46.000 But then, but you know, so if he got 80 million votes, I think people just were told by the media, you know, orange man bad.
00:23:54.000 They believed it.
00:23:55.000 Well, this Dominion stuff, there might be merit to that Dominion stuff.
00:23:59.000 Well that report that came out, you saw that Cassandra?
00:24:01.000 Which one?
00:24:01.000 The Antrim report.
00:24:03.000 That said that votes were, like the machines had intentional errors.
00:24:07.000 So you can't just, you know, the traditional culture war arguments don't work on this.
00:24:14.000 Or they're like, oh the guy's biased.
00:24:16.000 The guy who wrote it's biased.
00:24:17.000 I'm like, I don't know anything about that.
00:24:18.000 Nah, I'm sorry.
00:24:19.000 I just read a report.
00:24:20.000 I don't know who that guy is.
00:24:21.000 Well he's biased.
00:24:21.000 I don't care.
00:24:23.000 Investigate the evidence.
00:24:25.000 Tell me what happened.
00:24:26.000 I don't care about your opinions on politics.
00:24:29.000 It's not going to solve anything.
00:24:30.000 And that's all they have so far.
00:24:32.000 Not like anything's going to happen from it.
00:24:33.000 I'm thinking about the inception of Occupy.
00:24:35.000 And that was basically when Obama bailed out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
00:24:42.000 The big banker bailouts of 2008.
00:24:44.000 Yeah, trillions of dollars inflated.
00:24:45.000 I don't know how much he inflated the currency.
00:24:48.000 Well, there was the national public bailouts and then there was the secret Federal Reserve bailouts that I talked about with Ben Bernanke and he got angry and tried to rip away my microphone.
00:24:57.000 I brought that up.
00:24:57.000 I was like, what about the secret trillion dollars that you gave out that no one knows?
00:25:02.000 And then he got mad and livid and literally had me kicked out.
00:25:04.000 And they just did it again with a three trillion that they printed in like Yeah, well right now BlackRock is being financed by the Federal Reserve.
00:25:12.000 All of their losses are being subsidized by the Federal Reserve, just printing money and giving it to them right now, as the average taxpayer stands by and says, you got anything for me?
00:25:21.000 And then the big banksters are like, printer go burr, no more for you!
00:25:25.000 Printer go burr!
00:25:26.000 Yeah, the meme is a bunch of pigs with top hats and the guy's cranking the money printer and the money's flying out and he's like screaming and his eyes are bleeding or whatever and the capitalist pig is like it's literally a picture of a pig with like a cop hat and a monocle is like smiling and taking the money and then below it it's one of those like really sad looking you know guys and he's all he's like please need I need money for food and then there's an angry person holding the thing saying the printer broke.
00:25:52.000 Yes.
00:25:52.000 There's no money for you!
00:25:54.000 But there's money for all the big business.
00:25:56.000 So money went burr in 08, was it, when they bailed out?
00:25:59.000 Tremendously.
00:26:00.000 And then two years later, Occupy struck.
00:26:02.000 So now we're looking at the printing now.
00:26:04.000 Maybe in a year or a year and a half, we're going to see another Occupy.
00:26:07.000 But we're already kind of seeing it with these autonomous zones.
00:26:09.000 They just haven't been forced into it.
00:26:12.000 People haven't lost their houses.
00:26:14.000 Well, they're starting to.
00:26:15.000 People are losing their houses.
00:26:17.000 Crazy evictions are coming soon, man.
00:26:18.000 Occupy didn't have focus.
00:26:20.000 A lot of people were down on the Federal Reserve.
00:26:23.000 Yeah, it got muddled.
00:26:26.000 A bunch of weird social justice people came in and took over and then made it literally about nothing.
00:26:31.000 But it should have been about the Federal Reserve and taking back the money supply, I think.
00:26:35.000 It was about Wall Street.
00:26:37.000 It was about occupying Wall Street.
00:26:38.000 Literally, the plan was to go down to like Wall and Broad in New York and sit there making demands.
00:26:44.000 It kind of doesn't make sense because people don't know what Wall Street is.
00:26:47.000 I remember we were down there.
00:26:49.000 And a bunch of the activists got into, you know, in front of Wallenberg.
00:26:53.000 They barricaded it, basically.
00:26:54.000 But people eventually found their way in.
00:26:56.000 And some guy came out and he was like, what are you even protesting?
00:26:59.000 And they're like, Wall Street.
00:27:00.000 He's like, what?
00:27:01.000 Retirement funds?
00:27:03.000 What are you talking about?
00:27:04.000 I started laughing.
00:27:04.000 I thought it was hilarious.
00:27:05.000 Yeah, because Wall Street's a lot of retirement funds, like 401ks and IRAs and stuff.
00:27:09.000 People think it's just like, Wall Street is a phrase to represent powerful corporate interests.
00:27:15.000 It doesn't necessarily mean it's what Wall Street literally is doing.
00:27:18.000 But that's what the original focus was, that the big banks got these big bailouts and regular people didn't.
00:27:25.000 And so that was the issue.
00:27:27.000 Instead, the older people, the libertarian types, a lot of the Ron Paul types, who were there, left because guess what?
00:27:34.000 They have jobs.
00:27:35.000 And then the young people who didn't have jobs were sleeping in the park.
00:27:39.000 And then the kids who had apartments in Brooklyn and their parents paid for a couple trust fund kids, I know they're literally trust fund kids, not all of them, but there were some, they had no jobs.
00:27:47.000 So they were like, this is my job now.
00:27:49.000 I'm going to come here and organize.
00:27:50.000 And that was it.
00:27:51.000 Occupy Wall Street became some weird social justice progressive nonsense that made no sense.
00:27:55.000 They fought for nothing.
00:27:56.000 They were there to bust up fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve's fiat That's not, that was not a statement from anybody.
00:28:04.000 I know, unfortunately it just became about like social justice.
00:28:07.000 But that was never a stated goal of Occupy Wall Street.
00:28:10.000 But those conversations did happen and there were individuals pushing for that.
00:28:14.000 But the original call for Occupy was for the far left who organized one month before to organize what it was going to be and what it was going to look like and they wanted to occupy Wall Street And it was for far-left causes.
00:28:27.000 There was no official planning organization where they were like the Federal Reserve and fractional banking or whatever.
00:28:31.000 Those conversations happened, especially with the Ron Paul people.
00:28:34.000 So basically what we need to do is tell everybody that Radiohead's gonna perform at the Federal Reserve.
00:28:39.000 That's what they did, for people who don't know.
00:28:42.000 Dude, I was there when that happened, and I remember when they announced Radiohead was coming, I was like, that's not true.
00:28:48.000 And thousands of people showed up, and then the guy's like, okay, before they, he's like, we're gonna let you know Radiohead's not really playing here, but now that you're here, we're gonna do a general assembly.
00:28:58.000 It was actually quite brilliant, because there's two things.
00:29:01.000 First, the people who were there, I talked to this young woman, I was like, so did you come here for Radiohead?
00:29:05.000 And she goes, oh, well, I came for Occupy, but to watch Radiohead.
00:29:11.000 And she goes, yeah.
00:29:12.000 And I was like, but they're not coming.
00:29:13.000 She's like, no, but I'm here for the cause, not wanting to be admitting it.
00:29:20.000 So what they got was, they did a general assembly where they got everyone to mindlessly chant along to what they were saying.
00:29:27.000 So one of the things they do at Occupy is the people's mic.
00:29:30.000 The far left does this all the time with their protests.
00:29:32.000 Where at a rally, someone will say, mic check, and then everyone yells, mic check.
00:29:36.000 And then they'll start saying something, and everyone repeats it.
00:29:39.000 That actually creates uniformity between people because they're getting people to chant and say these things over and over again.
00:29:46.000 So they have thousands of people show up and they say, mic check.
00:29:49.000 And then everyone yells and they go, I think, I think we should, we should be socialists.
00:29:54.000 And then everyone is chanting.
00:29:55.000 We should be socialists over and over again.
00:29:57.000 So it was effective.
00:29:58.000 It was brilliant.
00:29:59.000 It was evil.
00:30:00.000 Very evil.
00:30:00.000 Amazing.
00:30:01.000 There's a psychological test that's really famous, and I can't think of the name of it right now, but I was watching it last night, where they put a person in a room with a bunch of actors, and they have a poster with different lengths of lines, and they'll be like, which two lines are the same?
00:30:20.000 and the actors all conformally like they all say the wrong one and then they watch and like that the person who's not an actor the first time will be like it's B. B and A are the same and then after a few rounds he'll start going along with what everybody else said and it's been repeated like hundreds of times.
00:30:40.000 People can be dumb huh?
00:30:42.000 They always conform to what Monkey see, monkey do.
00:30:47.000 There was a viral video where they did this where they had a doctor's office and then it's a bunch of actors sitting down and the non-actor, the Mark, walks in, sits down, then you hear a beep and then all the actors stand up for about five seconds and then sit back down.
00:31:05.000 So eventually the Mark, the non-actor, is looking around like, why is everyone standing?
00:31:09.000 Then start standing up and sitting down with them, not knowing why.
00:31:12.000 Just, everybody's doing it, might as well do it.
00:31:14.000 Eventually, this one guy was like, what are you guys doing?
00:31:16.000 And he's like, just what we're supposed to do.
00:31:19.000 I was like, okay.
00:31:20.000 So here's the best part.
00:31:21.000 One by one, they removed the actors and started putting in non-actors until everyone who was there had no idea why they were mindlessly standing up and sitting down when the beeps happened.
00:31:30.000 But they just do.
00:31:31.000 And when the guy was like, what are you doing?
00:31:32.000 He's like, I don't know, everyone's just doing it.
00:31:34.000 It's like, that's not a good reason to do anything.
00:31:36.000 Well not execute, but electrocute.
00:31:36.000 that study with animals and there's also the other one where they had a patient
00:31:41.000 execute someone thinking that it was the right thing to do because they had
00:31:44.000 someone in authority tell him right do it and they were pressing a button that they thought
00:31:48.000 they were electrocuting someone with higher and higher faulty.
00:31:51.000 Potato, potato.
00:31:53.000 Well essentially, essentially at the end of the study the guy died.
00:31:58.000 He faked his death but to the point where the guy was being told what to do he just kept clicking the button and then executed the guy.
00:32:06.000 I think it's because it's more important for us to adapt than to be right.
00:32:11.000 Sociologically, historically, for us to survive, it was more important that we, even if we were doing what we know is wrong, if it's the thing that fits the situation, we would do it and those would be the people that would survive.
00:32:21.000 So it's like in our DNA to say that the wrong thing is right if everyone else is doing it.
00:32:26.000 Social?
00:32:26.000 It's like tribalism.
00:32:27.000 They can't understand that, dude.
00:32:28.000 Reserve Bank. I think that's when people see this fiat fake money printing. They can't understand that dude. Well, let's
00:32:33.000 explain it a little bit in the 1970 Nixon took us off the gold standard and instituted fiat
00:32:38.000 currency so that the Federal Reserve could print as much money
00:32:40.000 Didn't they seize gold? They did. Yeah, I remember that Yeah, they said, like, you gotta give your gold up.
00:32:46.000 Shocking.
00:32:47.000 From what I know about fractional reserve banking is that if a central bank loans $100 to a bank, then the bank can take 90% of that money and loan it out.
00:32:56.000 And then the person that receives that $90 gets to loan out 90% of that.
00:33:03.000 So they can loan out $81 of that.
00:33:06.000 So you've created, from that initial $100, $171.
00:33:10.000 It's how the money supply has expanded.
00:33:12.000 Yeah.
00:33:12.000 The issue is that if you have... Like, the easiest way to explain the issue is... What happens is, so you've created fake money, and then you request interest back on the fake money.
00:33:23.000 So it's this giant pyramid scheme.
00:33:25.000 Right.
00:33:25.000 And eventually the interest outweighs the money supply, and then...
00:33:30.000 Pops.
00:33:31.000 But the easiest way to explain this, because people are going to be like, I have no idea what that means, is if you have a rare painting, it's worth a bunch of money.
00:33:38.000 If all of a sudden there's complete and exact replicas, like a hundred of them, like let's say you got a rare Luke Rudkowski original pressing and it's worth just a mere $1,000, because Luke's not necessarily a famous painter.
00:33:50.000 But it's a unique painting made by him worth a thousand bucks.
00:33:53.000 All of a sudden, one day, someone opens a vault, and there's a thousand of them.
00:33:56.000 Well, now it's not valuable anymore.
00:33:58.000 Because there's just tons of them.
00:33:59.000 Who wants them?
00:34:00.000 Everybody who wants one gets one, and then nobody's trading them anymore.
00:34:03.000 So when they just keep mass-printing money with no standard, with no backing, then the value is just the confidence of individuals in that system.
00:34:11.000 And what happens is, the more they print, the more your values do it.
00:34:15.000 It's inflation.
00:34:16.000 Yeah.
00:34:16.000 Well, the scary thing is right now, if enough people go to the bank to try to get their money back, they won't be able to.
00:34:23.000 A lot of people think that if they put their money in the bank, it's there and it's kept safe for them.
00:34:27.000 It's not.
00:34:27.000 But that's true with or without fractional reserve.
00:34:29.000 Yes.
00:34:30.000 But that makes the problem a little bit worse.
00:34:33.000 Yeah.
00:34:34.000 Runs on the banks are problems.
00:34:35.000 Yeah.
00:34:36.000 The fact that they can loan out money that they don't have is crazy.
00:34:41.000 That you could borrow $100 and then loan out 90 of it.
00:34:47.000 And but still keep your hundred?
00:34:48.000 Listen, listen, Ponzi schemes work really great so long as no one dares screw with your
00:34:58.000 system to put it mildly.
00:35:00.000 So the United States, the petrodollar, the fractional reserve system, it's brilliant.
00:35:05.000 We just got to keep printing the money and we'll keep expanding and we'll keep growing
00:35:08.000 and keep spending and everything's great.
00:35:10.000 Unless, you know, someone like Gaddafi comes along and wants to trade, and what do you want to trade?
00:35:16.000 Gold dinars.
00:35:16.000 Gold dinars, and then you get Saddam Hussein who says maybe we should entertain the euro, and then, well then you have no choice but to, uh, can we drone this guy?
00:35:25.000 You know, can we join this guy?
00:35:27.000 And then what Hillary Clinton say, we came, we saw, he died.
00:35:29.000 And that's, I'm not saying that's exactly why, you know, the official reasons as to why we, you know, drop bombs on countries is because I guess they're bad people, you know, they hate our freedom.
00:35:39.000 The reason I'm railing on the Fed is because I think if we were going to start a new political party, it would be to repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
00:35:45.000 Like Ron Paul was the closest thing we had to a new political party.
00:35:49.000 But I don't I don't think that would work at this point.
00:35:52.000 Oh, gosh.
00:35:53.000 This is a collapse.
00:35:54.000 What other what other unifying message do you think we can have?
00:35:57.000 Nobody knows about the Federal Reserve or what fractional reserve banking is.
00:36:00.000 We just explained it to like 50,000 people.
00:36:02.000 And no one's going to care because it doesn't impact their immediate lives.
00:36:05.000 If you if you went on the gold standard right now, a dollar would be worth nothing like a gold flake.
00:36:10.000 Now, going back to the gold standard doesn't make sense.
00:36:13.000 I think that's why you got to rely on crypto.
00:36:15.000 Proof of work.
00:36:16.000 I don't know.
00:36:17.000 Maybe Bitcoin.
00:36:18.000 I don't know.
00:36:19.000 Because you can't print infinite amounts of it.
00:36:20.000 There's a finite amount of it in the supply.
00:36:23.000 I think the Trump supporters should start a MAGA party, or something like that, and I think they need to stand on principle and do it no matter what.
00:36:33.000 I'm sick and tired of the, I'm gonna vote for a Republican just because it's better than Democrats, because then you end up with Mitch McConnell, who at a moment's notice is like, Trump, turn around, I got a knife, I gotta put it here real quick.
00:36:43.000 So what's the point of supporting any of these guys?
00:36:44.000 Can he start the white party?
00:36:46.000 The what?
00:36:47.000 The red, the white, and the blue party?
00:36:49.000 That sounds like a terrible idea.
00:36:50.000 Is it going to be two races?
00:36:52.000 A white party?
00:36:53.000 But we need red, white, and blue.
00:36:54.000 We need white states.
00:36:56.000 No!
00:36:57.000 No!
00:36:58.000 I'm not white!
00:37:00.000 That's going to get clips.
00:37:03.000 I'm being honest.
00:37:06.000 We're pink.
00:37:08.000 Like orange-ish yellow pink.
00:37:10.000 No one's white.
00:37:11.000 It's too late.
00:37:11.000 The purple party?
00:37:13.000 You tried, Ian.
00:37:14.000 You tried.
00:37:15.000 We need a white party.
00:37:19.000 That doesn't sound the way you think it sounds, Ian.
00:37:21.000 I'm not racial.
00:37:22.000 I get what you're going for.
00:37:24.000 The MAGA party will be orange.
00:37:26.000 There you go.
00:37:27.000 It will be orange.
00:37:27.000 Yeah, that's a good idea.
00:37:29.000 Orange.
00:37:30.000 Yep.
00:37:31.000 I'll start the white party later.
00:37:32.000 Yeah, that'd be cool if we had red, white, and blue states.
00:37:35.000 Those are the colors of Russia, Ian.
00:37:37.000 Oh, yeah.
00:37:37.000 And France.
00:37:38.000 Who are you working for?
00:37:39.000 The French?
00:37:40.000 Well, the French.
00:37:41.000 French agent.
00:37:41.000 The white states?
00:37:42.000 I work alone.
00:37:43.000 No.
00:37:44.000 No, but I think that, I don't know.
00:37:45.000 No, you're right.
00:37:46.000 It's too racist.
00:37:47.000 I don't, I don't care if, if, look, we've already heard a bunch of Republicans saying sacrifice the Senate.
00:37:53.000 I shouldn't say, I'm sorry.
00:37:54.000 Trump supporters are saying sacrifice the Senate.
00:37:57.000 Lynn Wood and Cindy Powell are basically like, don't vote for Republicans.
00:38:00.000 And it's funny because I'm like, yeah, I don't care either.
00:38:02.000 Like, I'm not going to care.
00:38:03.000 Well, we go through this like every election and the same thing with Bernie bros.
00:38:07.000 They'll come and they'll be like, well, you gotta vote for our party because you don't want to vote for the fascists, or you don't want to vote for the socialists, so you gotta vote for us.
00:38:17.000 And then they have no incentive to do what we want.
00:38:20.000 We had Donald Trump as the president, and the Republicans still would not enact the policies that he campaigned on.
00:38:27.000 So why?
00:38:28.000 Why should we vote for him?
00:38:29.000 Why should the left vote for the Democrats?
00:38:31.000 Why should the right vote for the Republicans?
00:38:33.000 Make them do work.
00:38:34.000 Have you been following what's going on with Jimmy Dore?
00:38:37.000 No.
00:38:38.000 So Jimmy Dore's awesome.
00:38:40.000 And Jimmy Dore said that AOC and the other progressive Democrats can force a floor vote on Medicare for All.
00:38:47.000 And she's basically said, no, it can't be done.
00:38:50.000 We don't have the votes and blah, blah, blah.
00:38:52.000 And so Jimmy's point, and he's getting attacked for it by a bunch of progressives because he dare question AOC.
00:38:57.000 He said, if 14 or 15 progressives said, we will not vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House unless we get a floor vote on Medicare for All, she will do it because she will lose the speakership and probably to a Republican.
00:39:12.000 So, of course she would.
00:39:14.000 And then the response they give to Jimmy is, but it won't work, and then we won't get Medicare for All and it'll be a waste of time.
00:39:19.000 And it's like, so what?
00:39:21.000 So what's the worst case scenario?
00:39:22.000 It gets voted down?
00:39:23.000 Then Jimmy said, then we'll know exactly who voted against this.
00:39:27.000 But he brings up a really good point.
00:39:29.000 After everything AOC has campaigned on, she won't have, she does not have the political will because she's a careerist who's thinking about herself.
00:39:38.000 That's why she fired the people, you know, she got rid of some of the people that were around her, that helped her get where she was, that's why she pushed them away.
00:39:44.000 And it's why she walked back from some of her more extreme positions as soon as she got elected, because she's thinking about the next two years and her career.
00:39:51.000 That's what she's interested in.
00:39:51.000 And you know what?
00:39:53.000 I understand that.
00:39:54.000 She was a bartender, right?
00:39:56.000 And I mean, there's no disrespect.
00:39:58.000 I think it's fantastic that she was a bartender and got elected.
00:40:00.000 And now she's probably sitting there thinking, without this, I'm just, I'm nothing.
00:40:04.000 And Republicans remind her of that every single day.
00:40:06.000 She likes to complain and say, Republicans want to hold that against me.
00:40:09.000 Well, I represent the working class.
00:40:10.000 And it says, right.
00:40:11.000 She would have a TV show.
00:40:12.000 She would have something.
00:40:13.000 For sure.
00:40:14.000 fight the Democrats and they ostracize you and you become ineffective and then you don't
00:40:18.000 get reelected, that's where you're going back to.
00:40:20.000 Now probably she'll be an organizer or something.
00:40:21.000 She would have a TV show.
00:40:23.000 She would have something.
00:40:24.000 Right, something like that.
00:40:25.000 She's a rock star now whether we like it or not.
00:40:28.000 But she wants this career.
00:40:30.000 So it's really fascinating that she was supposed to be this, you know, bastion of progressivism and leftist values.
00:40:37.000 She was a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists.
00:40:38.000 She gets elected.
00:40:39.000 Now they're actually yelling at Jimmy Dore because he's like, do your job!
00:40:44.000 Do what you are elected for!
00:40:45.000 And you know what?
00:40:46.000 I completely agree with him.
00:40:48.000 I like the idea of Medicare for All.
00:40:50.000 I don't think it can be done.
00:40:51.000 I don't think that it'll win.
00:40:52.000 And I think you can't just snap your fingers and make something like that happen.
00:40:55.000 But I'd like to see all the Democrats actually stand up and put their money where their mouth is.
00:41:00.000 I want to know which one of these are just paying lip service to the progressives, pretending to care about this.
00:41:06.000 But you know what?
00:41:07.000 It's already been done for me.
00:41:08.000 And I'll tell this to Jimmy, because I think, Jimmy, you're great.
00:41:10.000 You wanna know who would vote no on Medicare for All?
00:41:14.000 It's all of them, including AOC, who won't demand a floor vote.
00:41:17.000 There you go, it's all of them.
00:41:19.000 It's her included.
00:41:20.000 So when he comes out and he says, she should do this, it just goes to show you, I don't think it matters who you vote for, for the most part.
00:41:25.000 Except for Trump.
00:41:26.000 Trump was like, ready to, you know, like, figuratively fire off nukes to get what he wanted.
00:41:31.000 Build the wall, find the money, he was gonna do it.
00:41:33.000 He fires the Pentagon top brass, wants to get the troops out of Afghanistan, because he's willing to make it happen to keep his promises.
00:41:39.000 Almost every single other politician, except for a couple, they're going to do the same exact thing.
00:41:43.000 They're going to say, I'll do this for you, vote for me, and they're going to get in and then they're going to do nothing.
00:41:48.000 That's why we need two new parties.
00:41:50.000 I'd love to see the progressives start a new party.
00:41:52.000 Not that I think they're going to get anything done, but Trump supporters certainly have political willpower.
00:41:56.000 So even if they lose.
00:41:57.000 I'd like to see it just so that both parties will be split.
00:42:00.000 So it's fair.
00:42:01.000 Yes.
00:42:02.000 I don't care if the Republicans lose.
00:42:03.000 And do you?
00:42:04.000 Yeah, I don't, but I also don't want to permanently give power to socialism.
00:42:12.000 It would be ideal if we could have four parties, populist left, populist right, establishment left, establishment right, and square off and really see what people want.
00:42:20.000 If we, I think if we actually had a populist left and a populist right party, the Democrats and the Republicans would cease to exist in a couple cycles.
00:42:26.000 Me too, and that's why I want it so bad.
00:42:28.000 That's why Republicans should just do it.
00:42:30.000 I'm sorry, I keep saying that.
00:42:33.000 Trump supporters should just do it.
00:42:35.000 Because when I see Donald Trump say that he won, and I see all of the high-profile Trump supporters, and even members of Congress, I'm like, y'all are in the Trump party?
00:42:44.000 Own it, start a new party, and you can caucus with Republicans or whatever, but already these populist right-wing individuals are beating Republicans.
00:42:52.000 They just need to do it.
00:42:53.000 You know what?
00:42:54.000 Maybe you'll lose some elections, but I'll tell you this.
00:42:57.000 Is it worth empowering people like Mitch McConnell, who's going to be like, give me the moment's notice to kick Trump in the butt?
00:43:04.000 No, just don't do it.
00:43:05.000 If you're going to lose, if the Democrats are going to win, then make the Republicans recognize they either support you or you walk.
00:43:12.000 Good.
00:43:13.000 Maybe the Democrats are... I think the Democrats are going to win in Georgia.
00:43:16.000 They do.
00:43:17.000 I do too.
00:43:18.000 Trump's not on the ticket.
00:43:19.000 And the Republicans are dwindling.
00:43:21.000 The only reason the Republicans gained voters is because of Trump.
00:43:24.000 And they won't support him.
00:43:26.000 Some of them will.
00:43:27.000 But Mitch McConnell won't.
00:43:28.000 So I think without Trump on the ticket, especially with Mitch McConnell doing this right now, it's going to be hilarious.
00:43:34.000 January 5th is around the corner and Mitch McConnell just said, basically, F Trump.
00:43:37.000 Don't support him at all.
00:43:38.000 Even in a symbolic gesture, Even today, Trump retweeted Lin Wood saying that Kemp is going to be arrested.
00:43:45.000 That's right.
00:43:46.000 That's crazy.
00:43:46.000 That's not going to drive voters out in Georgia.
00:43:49.000 No, you know what?
00:43:50.000 You know what I think?
00:43:51.000 With Mitch McConnell pleading, he's not just saying, you know, it probably would make sense if we didn't do this.
00:43:56.000 He's saying, please, please don't even give a symbolic support for, you know, any kind of symbol of support for Trump.
00:44:02.000 How many people are going to be like, okay, Mitch, you're right.
00:44:04.000 I won't.
00:44:05.000 I also won't give you control of the Senate.
00:44:07.000 You will not be the majority leader.
00:44:09.000 You'll be the minority leader, and you will have no power.
00:44:11.000 Congratulations, you've earned it.
00:44:13.000 If people don't stand up now, then we're just going to have the same garbage machine churning along endlessly.
00:44:19.000 And you end up with people like AOC who's just a careerist.
00:44:21.000 There's probably a couple real progressives who got in, but I think most of them are just careerists.
00:44:26.000 Yeah, of course.
00:44:27.000 I mean, that's the whole business of politics.
00:44:29.000 Sell out to special interests, save your butt, and get as much as you can for yourself.
00:44:33.000 That's essentially what the system is run on.
00:44:35.000 But I think another factor to really consider here is the fact that most Americans have a lot more in common than they do than they disagree with.
00:44:43.000 And when we look at most of Americans they are disenfranchised they're sick of the corruption they're sick of the special interest they are sick of politicians lying to them and taking advantage of them which they always freaking do so I think there's even a probable chance of.
00:44:58.000 As we're seeing this kind of political realignment, we saw just a few years ago, according to many charts and data, a lot of people being in the moderate kind of realm of politics.
00:45:08.000 We're seeing them kind of move away from each other.
00:45:10.000 More people are going towards more far-left ideas, more people are going towards more far-right ideas.
00:45:15.000 But essentially, when you look at the political spectrum, it's kind of coming together in a circle, and they might actually meet each other and make a cohesive force of anti-establishment-ness, saying enough is enough.
00:45:27.000 And if we could put aside our differences and learn to respect each other in a kind of republic system, where let be as other people's want to be left alone, I think there's a possibility that this could essentially happen.
00:45:38.000 This could be something significant.
00:45:40.000 You brought this up.
00:45:41.000 Michael Malice brought this up.
00:45:42.000 Divorce.
00:45:43.000 Yes.
00:45:43.000 What do you think about the idea of peaceful separation?
00:45:46.000 I am so pro divorce.
00:45:50.000 I, I want, I want to split it.
00:45:52.000 I absolutely, I'm a hundred percent down for it.
00:45:56.000 And I'm so glad that I live in West Virginia, which would be red as hell.
00:46:00.000 I am.
00:46:00.000 I'm it's, it's a second, second reddest, I think, uh, Wyoming.
00:46:05.000 So, uh, what's funny is I hear a lot from the left when they're like, if that were to happen, the red States would become a third world nation.
00:46:11.000 And, and no, no, I mean, maybe, but you know what?
00:46:14.000 I don't think the people advocating for this care.
00:46:16.000 At all.
00:46:17.000 I think they're like, okay, have they been to New York City lately?
00:46:20.000 Have they been to Brooklyn?
00:46:22.000 Like, have they seen the rats?
00:46:23.000 We have the most land.
00:46:24.000 We won't have to pay for the welfare for everybody in the cities.
00:46:27.000 I, the only thing that I've complained about when the left put out their map, um, we can't let them control the whole West coast.
00:46:34.000 Cause we're going to need ports on the Pacific.
00:46:35.000 Other than that, I'm down for like their proposed split.
00:46:38.000 I think it was like Amy Suskind or something put out a proposed map.
00:46:41.000 Yeah, I saw mine.
00:46:43.000 And then like a United States of Canada.
00:46:46.000 Yeah.
00:46:47.000 I was like I am so down for that except we need a port.
00:46:51.000 We could work out a deal with Mexico Okay, okay miss Pinochet, let's hold on here The Civil War started was secession.
00:46:57.000 Okay, Miss Pinochet, let's hold on here for a little bit.
00:47:01.000 Some of my thoughts lately would make Pinochet blush, to be honest.
00:47:04.000 I've gotten to the point.
00:47:05.000 That was how the Civil War started was secession.
00:47:08.000 Don't you think that would happen again?
00:47:10.000 Maybe.
00:47:11.000 Well, another thing people need to realize is that we are on a course for a very turbulent
00:47:16.000 And I think succession and moving apart, just like Alan West suggested, I think it's going to be a resolution that would be the least harmful to the rest of America.
00:47:28.000 If we could just peacefully agree to, you know, have our own differences, to have our own states, to live how people want to live and still have a central national defense.
00:47:38.000 But to be able to respect each other's differences and enable more of states' rights and less of a big centralized government, I think that could be something that is something that we should strive for, especially now, because when we look at the future, it's going to be a very bumpy ride for everyone.
00:47:53.000 I think we've reached a point where we're not even on the same page, especially morally.
00:47:58.000 Words don't even mean the same thing.
00:48:00.000 Yeah.
00:48:00.000 Like having a conversation makes no sense now.
00:48:02.000 Yeah.
00:48:03.000 I don't understand how we can be a cohesive nation when people are speaking completely two different languages.
00:48:11.000 I mean, I don't... It's not that extreme.
00:48:14.000 I mean, it's not completely different.
00:48:15.000 We're both speaking English.
00:48:17.000 No, we're not.
00:48:17.000 I mean... People can learn.
00:48:18.000 Yeah, but there's... Dictionary definitions change to make no sense.
00:48:23.000 Racism in the dictionary, I think it was Webster's or Miriam Webster, became circular.
00:48:28.000 It became essentially meaningless.
00:48:30.000 I did a bit where I read the definition and it's a recursive loop because they use the word racism in the definition of racism.
00:48:39.000 So it's like...
00:48:40.000 Because it was like power exerted over someone on the basis of being racist or whatever, and it's like, so it just never ends.
00:48:48.000 No, there's a bunch of things that, when I'm trying to have a conversation with someone, I have to ask them to define certain things.
00:48:53.000 Like, systemic racism, what does that mean?
00:48:55.000 You're gonna get a million different definitions.
00:48:57.000 Because there's different tribes that say things and they mean different things.
00:49:00.000 Racism and sexism clearly do not mean the same things to the right and to the left.
00:49:06.000 And now there's even a new study out today that talks about this unconscious bias training showing how essentially it doesn't do anything but creates a worse of a problem which is something that really needs to be talked about because no one really wants to touch that topic at all.
00:49:22.000 We have a story here from Real Clear Science.
00:49:24.000 Research shows diversity training is ineffective.
00:49:27.000 You don't say!
00:49:28.000 To everybody listening, I just want you to imagine that you're at work, you know, maybe you work in an office, common job, you're at a computer, and they say it's time for your mandated corporate diversity training.
00:49:40.000 What's the first thing every single person thinks, or 90% of them, when they're told this is what's going to happen?
00:49:46.000 A guy in a suit.
00:49:47.000 No, no, no.
00:49:48.000 Just any person.
00:49:48.000 Any average person.
00:49:50.000 Ug.
00:49:50.000 Exactly.
00:49:50.000 I think of the office space.
00:49:53.000 The office space segment where they had their diversity training.
00:49:56.000 Do you remember that clip?
00:49:57.000 No, it's been a while.
00:49:59.000 I don't want to spoil it.
00:50:01.000 Yeah, nobody cares.
00:50:02.000 They're like, ugh.
00:50:03.000 Corporate drugs.
00:50:05.000 If anything, I'd imagine it made it worse.
00:50:07.000 That's what the study found.
00:50:08.000 It found that it did make race relations worse.
00:50:10.000 I mean, already, let's be honest here.
00:50:12.000 A lot of the woke people, they're very uncomfortable around people of color already.
00:50:16.000 They admit it!
00:50:18.000 Yes.
00:50:18.000 Yes, they're very patronizing a lot of times.
00:50:21.000 Yeah, they're patronizing a lot of the times.
00:50:23.000 They're awkward, they're weird, and if you treat someone differently because of their skin color, obviously you're not going to gel or work with them as if you just treat them like a normal human being, which a lot of people are forgetting and they're not doing at all.
00:50:35.000 Well, Black Lives Matter drove a whole bunch of Hispanics over to the right, too.
00:50:38.000 Yeah, that was crazy.
00:50:41.000 So it was really interesting.
00:50:42.000 Do you know Hunter Avalon?
00:50:44.000 Yeah.
00:50:46.000 What is that about?
00:50:47.000 We had him on the show the other day.
00:50:49.000 And, you know, he's nice, but he's very, like, he said he's like, now he used to be conservative, now he's center center left, he voted for Biden.
00:50:56.000 I'm like, but, you know, he was talking about how he's very much in favor of the traditional family.
00:51:02.000 And I'm like, so you oppose Black Lives Matter?
00:51:03.000 And he's like, no, no.
00:51:05.000 I'm like, yes or no?
00:51:07.000 Black Lives Matter explicitly, in their, they're doing, what is it, the New York Teachers Union did that curriculum?
00:51:13.000 Yeah.
00:51:13.000 The Black Lives Matter curriculum, where they oppose the traditional family.
00:51:16.000 It's not just the parent organization, it's like the general group and what they espouse.
00:51:21.000 They do not like traditional families.
00:51:23.000 So, you know, to even go back to the discussion, it's very clearly a divide between what these countries are.
00:51:29.000 New York, very, very different from, say, West Virginia.
00:51:32.000 But he doesn't recognize that.
00:51:34.000 I think one of the big issues is that you tell somebody racism is bad and they're going to be like, I like that.
00:51:40.000 That's correct.
00:51:41.000 I don't like racism.
00:51:41.000 Great.
00:51:42.000 But then what they're really doing is, see, the woke left's definition of the word racism is literally them being racist.
00:51:50.000 Or I should say, they call it anti-racism.
00:51:52.000 And it's the same exact thing as racism.
00:51:55.000 The only real difference is what their stated intent is, I suppose.
00:51:58.000 So they're advocating for one thing, calling it something else, and then having people do these trainings who clearly don't like it, and all it does is make everything worse, make everybody hate each other.
00:52:07.000 Yeah, if you're gonna tell someone that someone else is bad, you're doing a bad thing.
00:52:12.000 So you're the bad one saying that guy's bad.
00:52:16.000 So it's like if you're gonna use evil to call out evil, you're the evil one.
00:52:21.000 Well, basically they're like, racism is bad.
00:52:23.000 Our solution is to judge people on the basis of their race.
00:52:26.000 It's like, well...
00:52:27.000 Who was it, Ibram X. Kendi, who was talking about how the only way to make things right was just to be more biased against white people?
00:52:34.000 This doesn't seem like the way forward.
00:52:36.000 No, he said discrimination against everybody.
00:52:37.000 Oh, everyone.
00:52:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:39.000 Well, it's truly equal.
00:52:40.000 I like that.
00:52:40.000 Well, yeah, I mean... Sorry.
00:52:42.000 No, go ahead.
00:52:43.000 In the schools, they've been pretty much teaching white kids to hate themselves.
00:52:46.000 Yes.
00:52:47.000 And that's the thing that really drives me over the edge.
00:52:50.000 And thank God I homeschool.
00:52:52.000 But they're teaching people not to credit Edison with light bulbs.
00:52:58.000 Cartoon Network put out a thing about that.
00:53:00.000 And like all these things that are just like little digs at white kids.
00:53:04.000 And it's going to make white kids feel bad and hate themselves because of their skin.
00:53:07.000 But the Edison thing is interesting.
00:53:09.000 So they're saying it was some black dude who invented the light bulb, I guess.
00:53:12.000 Oh yeah.
00:53:13.000 But it was actually that he, I think he perfected a filament that improved upon it.
00:53:18.000 And I'm pretty sure, didn't he work for Edison?
00:53:20.000 I'm gonna look it up.
00:53:20.000 I'm not sure.
00:53:21.000 So my understanding of it is when it happened.
00:53:23.000 My eyes glossed over while the cartoon played.
00:53:24.000 But it's not a Black Lives Matter thing.
00:53:26.000 It's a socialism thing.
00:53:27.000 It's a communism thing.
00:53:27.000 Yeah.
00:53:28.000 He invented it, but he was working for Edison.
00:53:31.000 Edison, like, said, here's what we're doing, here's what we're building, and he went, oh, okay, and then he improved on the project, and they credit, it's about crediting the worker versus crediting the owner, you see?
00:53:39.000 Yeah.
00:53:39.000 Yeah, his name's Lewis Howard Latimer, and he was an American inventor, patent draftsman for the patents of the incandescent light bulb, among other inventions.
00:53:47.000 I could go deeper into it.
00:53:49.000 Yeah, but wasn't actually invented.
00:53:50.000 He just made like a new filament.
00:53:53.000 Yeah, we used the most used filament of the time.
00:53:55.000 Yeah.
00:53:56.000 But my understanding is that isn't isn't the original light bulb still on?
00:53:59.000 It's always been on.
00:54:00.000 It's in a firehouse in New York City or something like that.
00:54:02.000 Yes.
00:54:02.000 And because of planned obsolescence, we're now given light bulbs that we have to keep buying again and again.
00:54:07.000 Yes, that's that's that's I guess like the the typical thing here on the Internet.
00:54:11.000 I think the official answer was that it was completely impractical to build because it was expensive and hard to produce.
00:54:16.000 But, I also think, you got a guy who makes a lightbulb and says, these things basically light up forever!
00:54:21.000 And they're like, so what, we run a company for a year and then we're done?
00:54:25.000 Good point.
00:54:25.000 Can we get something that fails?
00:54:28.000 And now here's the best part.
00:54:29.000 That's the guy who invented the filament that we used for like a hundred years?
00:54:33.000 Was he the one who perfected the obsolescence?
00:54:37.000 So they're trying to credit him for making the lightbulb when in fact he may be the guy who's credited for creating the bad lightbulbs that caused rampant pollution and consumerism and, you know, basically emboldened capitalism.
00:54:48.000 I'm not saying that's true.
00:54:49.000 I'm just saying, you know, if we... I heard the story there's a firehouse in New York against the L.A.
00:54:52.000 Lightbulb.
00:54:53.000 It's been on forever.
00:54:54.000 It's still on.
00:54:55.000 Yeah, I heard about that as well.
00:54:56.000 Yeah, I don't know if that's true.
00:54:57.000 I don't know.
00:54:57.000 Whatever.
00:54:57.000 I've been thinking a lot about secession since that came up a little bit earlier.
00:55:02.000 And I think that maybe a better thing would be a revolution against taxes that are imposed unjustly.
00:55:12.000 You don't, I don't, that's not going to solve the culture where I come in.
00:55:16.000 Like sales tax, like payroll tax.
00:55:19.000 But what does that have to do with like kids getting puberty blockers?
00:55:21.000 Well, I know I'm just kind of jumping track right here and taking us,
00:55:25.000 taking it back to where it was like 20 minutes ago.
00:55:28.000 It has nothing to do with that.
00:55:29.000 But those are the issues for The Culture War.
00:55:30.000 Give me a two-state solution.
00:55:32.000 Listen, listen.
00:55:34.000 Kids are crazy because we've been at war because we want to extract opium and oil for money.
00:55:40.000 So if we can get out of this fiat realm of the OPEC dollar and stop worshipping the dollar, Well, look, the one thing that may drive an actual divorce is the fact that the populist left and the populist right don't care for any of that stuff, and it's only the neolibs and neocons who are like, yay war!
00:55:59.000 So you give, you know, the Bernie Sanders crew the opportunity to be like, we don't care about that!
00:56:03.000 We want people to have healthcare!
00:56:05.000 And you go to the conservatives and the Trump supporters and they'll be like, bring our jobs back!
00:56:08.000 Like, I don't see any of the Bernie people being like, yay war.
00:56:11.000 Well, some of them, but not like the legit progressives.
00:56:15.000 And the Trump supporters definitely not.
00:56:17.000 So if there's one thing that's going to drive a peaceful split is when both populist factions tell the establishment, we don't care about you anymore, and we don't agree, and we don't like those people either, but we agree not to interact anymore.
00:56:27.000 I think the real issue is we could have a weakening of the federal government.
00:56:32.000 We don't need a peaceful split.
00:56:33.000 We don't need a civil war or revolution.
00:56:35.000 We need the Supreme Court to stop being able to dictate laws for the entire country.
00:56:38.000 Right.
00:56:39.000 That's really it.
00:56:40.000 State's rights.
00:56:40.000 That's it.
00:56:41.000 Federalism, yeah.
00:56:42.000 Because I was thinking about, I was reading a lot about the revolution and American independence.
00:56:47.000 You know that a bunch of people in New York signed a declaration of dependence?
00:56:51.000 They were like, we don't want revolution!
00:56:52.000 We love the king.
00:56:54.000 So like 500 and something people signed this.
00:56:55.000 No one knows because, well, you know, we won and they didn't.
00:56:59.000 So, but anyway, the original Articles of Confederation in the US, extremely weak.
00:57:04.000 It was basically like all the states with whatever authority they had said, we're going to fight for each other so that, you know, we're all independent.
00:57:11.000 And then after that, you kind of do your own thing.
00:57:14.000 With the Constitution, they were all like, okay, now we're one country and we have to, you know, we have these rules, we have a Supreme Court, we have legislation and stuff like that.
00:57:22.000 It affects everybody.
00:57:24.000 I guess that was a decent idea, but now what's happening is we can still provide for the common defense.
00:57:30.000 We can still do what the federal government was supposed to do in collecting taxes and, you know, providing military and, you know, negotiations on behalf of all the states.
00:57:38.000 But does it make sense that half the states completely disagree with half the states on certain key issues, and the Supreme Court says we hereby rule that everyone must abide a certain way?
00:57:49.000 While I certainly agree with a lot of the rulings of the Supreme Court, because they've benefited me and my family, like going back to the 60s and civil rights and stuff like that, the problem now is that the cultural issues are so, like, stark and completely out of this world that, I mean, we're on the verge of people, well, we're literally watching people kill each other and beat each other in the street.
00:58:07.000 If we just said, okay, West Virginia, you can have your guns and do your thing.
00:58:10.000 Okay, you know, and if you if people don't like it, you can move somewhere else.
00:58:14.000 But it's weird the left of the ones advocating for saying like all states
00:58:18.000 must conform to one uniform law in this country, even though they don't live in
00:58:21.000 these states. Yeah, if California wants to give up their guns, I don't care. Just stay out of West Virginia.
00:58:27.000 If someone wants to be disarmed and live with a bunch of rats around them they could go to New York City.
00:58:31.000 Go right ahead.
00:58:32.000 Feel free to support those incentives.
00:58:35.000 And I think really you hit on a good point here.
00:58:38.000 Decentralization I think is a peaceful way to resolve a lot of this.
00:58:42.000 And I think if there ever was an opportunity to make people realize that Independence, state's rights are very important.
00:58:49.000 It is right now.
00:58:50.000 I think we have a very big opportunity to remind everyone we don't need a huge big bloated bureaucratic federal government centralizing and controlling everything.
00:58:59.000 We see what happens with the DMV.
00:59:01.000 It's not a good idea.
00:59:03.000 Less government is good and it allows people to prevail.
00:59:08.000 It allows people to thrive.
00:59:09.000 It allows people to, of course, not be Squashed and screwed over by all the big multinational corporations that are using government to their own personal benefit.
00:59:19.000 And a lot of people have it skewed.
00:59:20.000 They're saying the corporations are evil.
00:59:21.000 We need more government.
00:59:23.000 No, you fool!
00:59:24.000 You don't understand that it's because of big government and their incentives and their programs and their one-on-one working with them that has established them to be these big giants that they are right now and why we're living in this current situation that we are.
00:59:37.000 It's because of direct government intervention.
00:59:40.000 You know, I've been talking for a while about the track towards a civil war, and seeing like half the states align against the other in an almost-negative Supreme Court, or I would say it was docketed in the Supreme Court, Supreme Court rejected it, just shows that there is serious alignment between the left, the Republicans, Democrats, left, right, against each other.
01:00:01.000 You know, based on the stuff we were talking about with, like, a new Occupy Wall Street, I'm wondering if it's not going to be a civil war, but a revolution.
01:00:06.000 And what I mean by that is, it'll look more like what happened to Syria than, like, the civil war in this country.
01:00:11.000 We have a political establishment.
01:00:13.000 You have people like Joe Biden.
01:00:14.000 He's filling the ranks.
01:00:15.000 Like, Joe Biden, you know what he did?
01:00:17.000 The moment they said, Joe Biden is the president-elect, he was like, all right, and he got a fire truck, and he hooked the hose right into a big ol' swamp and started spraying D.C.
01:00:26.000 down, full blast, the fire hose.
01:00:31.000 He is filling the swamp with a fire hose.
01:00:34.000 So, you know what I'm talking about the left and their autonomous zones.
01:00:38.000 Like you said, you don't care if California bans guns, just stay away from West Virginia, okay?
01:00:42.000 So now you got this town in Washington, why would they interfere with what Portland's doing?
01:00:47.000 You voted for it, that's your, you go do your thing.
01:00:49.000 So what happens then when the establishment tries to maintain control over all of them, And then you get something like, you know, right-wing individuals, right-wing militias saying to left-wing militias, hey, you don't like, like we saw with the Boogaloo Boys and Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
01:01:04.000 There was this rally in the West Coast where the Boogaloo Boys were like shaking hands with Antifa.
01:01:08.000 And they were like, look, we disagree with you, but we all agree the government's bad, right?
01:01:11.000 And they're like, yeah.
01:01:12.000 And there's a video, I think it's from Ford Fisher.
01:01:15.000 Or the Antifa guy is like, you stood with us today and we respect you for that.
01:01:19.000 And so what happens?
01:01:20.000 Those people will say, we don't want to go to your town or your state.
01:01:25.000 We want our state.
01:01:26.000 And the Boogaloo boys in the right wing are like, we completely agree.
01:01:29.000 It's the establishment and the government, you know, the mainstream political establishment is bad.
01:01:34.000 So, in that sense, if it comes down to these COVID lockdowns destroying people's lives, and the Michigan police blocking the GOP from coming into the Capitol building, they shut it down, then Republicans are eventually going to be like, why am I going to support these police?
01:01:49.000 Then when Antifa and Black Lives Matter go and fight the cops and say defund the police, conservatives are going to be like, okay.
01:01:54.000 I'm already seeing it.
01:01:55.000 Yeah.
01:01:56.000 Like I've been I've been covering this stuff a lot and I think I had tweeted out like the Michigan video of them being denied entry.
01:02:04.000 My mentions are all Republicans being like, why are we backing blue?
01:02:08.000 Let's stop backing the blue.
01:02:09.000 I don't back the blue anymore.
01:02:11.000 And it's it's getting to a point.
01:02:13.000 But the problem is there's different the reasons are very different.
01:02:17.000 So I don't think there'll be an alliance necessarily.
01:02:20.000 No, but if the enemy of the enemy is my friend, And, you know, the cops are doing something bad, then the Republicans are going to be like, I'm not getting involved.
01:02:31.000 So I don't think the right, I shouldn't say Republicans, I keep saying that, the Trump supporters or the populist right, I don't think they're going to show up to Portland and be like, we've come to supply aid in your fight against the establishment.
01:02:41.000 Maybe at some point.
01:02:42.000 I think mostly they're going to sit back, put their feet up and be like, We ain't helping you!
01:02:47.000 You're on your own, officer!
01:02:48.000 Why don't you go lock down some poor working family's business so they go starve to death?
01:02:53.000 I'm not gonna support that.
01:02:54.000 I personally will not support that.
01:02:56.000 And so, the more I see these cops, like in Staten Island, barring people from their First Amendment rights, I'm like, sorry.
01:03:02.000 I'm not gonna support those cops.
01:03:03.000 By all means, anti-vote, do your thing.
01:03:05.000 I don't care.
01:03:06.000 Defund them, whatever.
01:03:06.000 I don't live there.
01:03:08.000 If you voted for it, well, that's, you know, you live there.
01:03:09.000 What do you want me to say about it?
01:03:10.000 But if it was invaded by, like, a foreign country, would you still come to their aid?
01:03:14.000 That's an interesting question, because at one point I probably would have said yes.
01:03:18.000 At this point, man, I don't know.
01:03:21.000 If New York destroys everything and their government destroys everything, maybe, you know, for the people, not the establishment government.
01:03:30.000 Or maybe I might just be like, well...
01:03:32.000 This is what happens when you lose support of the people and they no longer feel the government represents them.
01:03:37.000 Someone could come in and invade and I'm going to be like, it's not a government for me.
01:03:43.000 I've never been a Republican.
01:03:44.000 They never represented me.
01:03:45.000 Joe Biden certainly doesn't.
01:03:47.000 None of these people do.
01:03:48.000 So why would I do anything?
01:03:49.000 I'm not a part of that community.
01:03:50.000 A bigger question is who would want New York City?
01:03:53.000 No one wants that hellhole.
01:03:56.000 I live there.
01:03:56.000 I moved away from there for a particular reason.
01:03:59.000 Luke would rather live in my parking lot.
01:04:02.000 Yes, I'm a lot happier here.
01:04:05.000 My RV is bigger than my apartment was in New York City.
01:04:09.000 Were you there when it flooded during Sandy?
01:04:11.000 Yeah, yeah, I was there.
01:04:11.000 Tim was there as well.
01:04:12.000 I was there, yeah.
01:04:13.000 That was crazy.
01:04:14.000 You know, one thing the government I think is overreaching and overdoing this a little bit too much is forcing us all to use the same currency.
01:04:22.000 And if they would just back off and let us decentralize command here... But you can, that's not true.
01:04:27.000 The U.S.
01:04:28.000 dollar is the national currency.
01:04:29.000 It's illegal to start a currency in the United States right now.
01:04:32.000 No, it's not.
01:04:33.000 That's not true.
01:04:33.000 Ithaca has the Ithaca Hour.
01:04:34.000 There's a bunch of jurisdictions with local currencies.
01:04:38.000 There's a big movement.
01:04:39.000 Breaking Ridge dollars.
01:04:40.000 Well, that's awesome.
01:04:41.000 And there's cryptocurrencies.
01:04:42.000 There is crypto, but they regulate the hell out of it, and I don't think they should.
01:04:46.000 The issue, I think, was there was one guy... Look, do you remember the guy who did the Liberty dollar?
01:04:49.000 Do you remember that?
01:04:50.000 Yes.
01:04:50.000 Yes. He got raided. But I guess it was because he was printing money and calling it dollars
01:04:54.000 and currency. That's what I'm talking about.
01:04:57.000 So when you look at places like Ithaca, it's not really big anymore. I went there a year
01:05:02.000 or two ago and asked them about it and they said it still exists, but it kind of fell
01:05:05.000 out of disuse because the main proponent eventually... And they could have done it if they just didn't
01:05:08.000 put dollars on there. Right, exactly.
01:05:11.000 What's happening is the Federal Reserve is like a parasite.
01:05:13.000 The Federal Reserve is a parasite in the brain of the U.S.
01:05:15.000 military and it's using the military to force us to use U.S.
01:05:18.000 dollars.
01:05:19.000 It allows them to print value.
01:05:21.000 It allows them to fabricate value outright to fund the military.
01:05:24.000 It allows them to force the military to make us use the dollar.
01:05:28.000 In regards to the military, could we change topics specifically to people who try to hold the U.S.
01:05:34.000 military complex accountable and what happens to them?
01:05:37.000 Can we like oh there we go who am I talking about here?
01:05:40.000 John F. Kennedy But that's still Julio Robert Kenna's mess miss and
01:05:48.000 Cassandra who's Julian Assange Julian Assange is Possibly the biggest hero in the world in my opinion who
01:06:02.000 should have a parade and a day named after him But no, um, he
01:06:06.000 He is the founder of Wikileaks, also.
01:06:09.000 So what's going on with Julian Assange?
01:06:11.000 I heard Trump was going to pardon him.
01:06:13.000 I heard that too.
01:06:14.000 Yeah.
01:06:14.000 But that was BS.
01:06:16.000 And it was shocking news to his legal team and his family and his friends who were devastated a couple hours later when Pastor Mark Burns tweeted that it was fake news and that he had bogus sources.
01:06:31.000 Let me pull up this story we got from Newsweek.
01:06:32.000 Is Trump pardoning Julian Assange?
01:06:34.000 Pastor Mark Burns tweet sends rumors flying.
01:06:37.000 So, I don't know if they have the tweet pulled up, but Mark Burns, a verified Twitter user, they don't, and he tweeted that he was going to, what did he say?
01:06:45.000 He went on to say disregard.
01:06:46.000 He said breaking news.
01:06:47.000 Yeah, he said breaking news.
01:06:48.000 They don't have the tweet in this article.
01:06:49.000 That's trash.
01:06:50.000 But everybody kind of went nuts, and they all wanted to believe it.
01:06:55.000 Everybody wanted it to happen, left and right.
01:06:56.000 I cried.
01:06:57.000 I was in tears, full on.
01:06:58.000 Left, but the left and the right.
01:07:00.000 The populist left, the populist right were like, this is amazing.
01:07:03.000 Trump should do this.
01:07:04.000 The establishment was very angry.
01:07:07.000 Oh, Bill Kristol.
01:07:10.000 I remember sending out a message when that happened.
01:07:12.000 I'm like, okay, we don't know who the source is.
01:07:14.000 We don't know if this is true.
01:07:15.000 We have no information that verifies this, but let's keep this going because maybe Trump will see this and change his mind.
01:07:21.000 Didn't Trump talk about it?
01:07:22.000 Oh, he talked about Snowden.
01:07:24.000 Snowden.
01:07:25.000 I mean, I got hundreds of messages right after that.
01:07:28.000 Yeah, I saw I saw your status update.
01:07:29.000 You said journalists who wouldn't spit on me if I was on fire are now contacting me like crazy.
01:07:35.000 Was that what you said?
01:07:36.000 Yeah.
01:07:37.000 All these mainstream media journalists are like, hey, Cass.
01:07:40.000 Buddy old pal.
01:07:41.000 What have you heard about Julian?
01:07:44.000 And I'm like, oh, are you guys writing another hit piece on me or you just want some info?
01:07:47.000 You're going to have to read Gateway Pundit.
01:07:49.000 I was such a bitch.
01:07:51.000 Sorry.
01:07:53.000 Well, so so so it's fake news, huh?
01:07:56.000 Yeah.
01:07:58.000 I mean, it's possible that Trump planted it so that he could feel it out and see if there was support, which is why I was encouraging people to really tweet it.
01:08:07.000 Well, the pastor had a photo of him talking to Trump in what looked like a confidential way.
01:08:12.000 That was his literal picture.
01:08:13.000 Wait, wait, wait.
01:08:14.000 Trump was talking to the pastor.
01:08:16.000 There's a picture of the pastor.
01:08:17.000 He definitely has ties to Trump.
01:08:18.000 And Trump said he was considering pardoning everybody, right?
01:08:21.000 Literally?
01:08:22.000 Anybody who talked to him.
01:08:23.000 Yeah.
01:08:23.000 So, like, basically, yeah.
01:08:25.000 Today, Julian Assange's legal team put in the official formal request for a pardon.
01:08:31.000 I think it'll happen.
01:08:32.000 You know why?
01:08:32.000 Why?
01:08:33.000 Because Trump wants to give a big middle finger to the deep state, to the intelligence agencies who screwed with him and jammed him up for years.
01:08:40.000 But he still also has people like neocons like Grinnell and stuff surrounding him being like, WikiLeaks is bad.
01:08:47.000 They're so bad.
01:08:47.000 They hurt national security.
01:08:52.000 But I don't know.
01:08:52.000 Trump might be like, I'm going to burn it all down on the way out.
01:08:55.000 I hope you're right, but if you look at Trump's relationship with Wikileaks, it's extremely bipolar.
01:09:02.000 It's like you have a crazy girlfriend that's like, I love you, I hate you, I love you, I hate you.
01:09:06.000 If you remember, Trump said officially he loved Wikileaks.
01:09:10.000 I love the Wikileaks!
01:09:12.000 Then, when he became president, he pretended not to even know who Julian Assange was.
01:09:17.000 He talked about literally executing Chelsea Manning and Snowden.
01:09:24.000 He talked about executing Edward Snowden.
01:09:26.000 When we talk about his record on whistleblowers, it's not the best.
01:09:30.000 I hope you're right.
01:09:31.000 We'll see.
01:09:32.000 But come on, time is ticking, Trump.
01:09:34.000 I mean, if we're gonna do it, do it.
01:09:36.000 Stop wasting everyone's time and stop raising people's false hopes about this.
01:09:39.000 Let's do this already.
01:09:40.000 Julian Assange is not a whistleblower.
01:09:42.000 He's a journalist.
01:09:43.000 Correct.
01:09:43.000 That's it.
01:09:44.000 And you can dislike what he's published, but I can't remember who was talking about this, but it was like on Fox News, and it was some Republican saying, maybe one of the good ones or something, saying, you know, when the New York Times got the NSA leaks, Were they charged and arrested?
01:10:01.000 WikiLeaks gets information and they publish it.
01:10:04.000 Well, this is the very dangerous thing that's happening right now with Julian Assange.
01:10:08.000 If the United States is able to get away with this, anyone reporting anything anywhere in the world, regardless of their citizenship, can be arrested, sent to the United States, and essentially sent away to jail for telling the truth.
01:10:20.000 Here's the best part.
01:10:21.000 All of this basically confirms the initial arrest of Assange was bunk.
01:10:25.000 Yeah, what was it the charge was like a statutory rape split condom All right.
01:10:30.000 Yeah, literally.
01:10:31.000 Yeah, they chart.
01:10:32.000 Well, they never actually charged him.
01:10:34.000 They never charged him and they imprisoned him for what seven years He was he was in Yes, they were talking about secret grand jury indictments, which the mainstream media was saying was a conspiracy theory.
01:10:50.000 The mainstream media was like, there's no secret grand jury indictment against Assange.
01:10:54.000 He should just leave.
01:10:55.000 He's wasting everyone's time.
01:10:56.000 He's creating a spectacle.
01:10:57.000 The mainstream media was literally on that point, like white on rice, and they were absolutely wrong.
01:11:02.000 Yeah, I believe it was 2013, the Stratford leak came out, and they laid out what they wanted to charge Julian with, and an espionage act was listed in there, and I would tweet about it all the time, and all these reporters would be like, you're such a conspiracy theorist, he could walk out of there anytime he wants, and I'm like, no, he And then what happened?
01:11:21.000 The door got kicked in and they dragged him out.
01:11:23.000 During the Trump administration and there's wheeling and dealing behind the Trump administration with the Ecuadorian embassy with the United Kingdom to get him out of there and that's exactly what they did.
01:11:32.000 So we have to also understand on the backdrop of Trump doing this to Assange is he going to pardon him?
01:11:38.000 But why did Trump do it to Assange?
01:11:40.000 Well, allegedly it's because Assange wouldn't give up his sources, which he is known for doing.
01:11:45.000 The sources of what?
01:11:46.000 The DNC leaks.
01:11:47.000 He still won't call Chelsea Manning a source.
01:11:51.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:11:52.000 The source of what?
01:11:53.000 The DNC leaks.
01:11:54.000 That's right.
01:11:55.000 If you look at the big picture, it seems that Trump was looking at Assange and he said,
01:12:00.000 I got the deep state on my back, accusing me of working with Russia,
01:12:03.000 and they're claiming that that was used to help me win. And if Assange just said,
01:12:08.000 here's who was the actual source was boom, done, Russia gate gone overnight.
01:12:11.000 Yeah, but Russia gates over it's been done. People who were just paying attention or had a pulse
01:12:15.000 understand or understood that it was bunk from the very beginning. Why would he try to appease
01:12:20.000 the mainstream media to such a point? Why would he try to play up to the mainstream media to
01:12:25.000 You don't get it, man.
01:12:26.000 No.
01:12:26.000 You don't get it.
01:12:26.000 Regular people believe the media.
01:12:28.000 For years, they said Trump was a Russian asset.
01:12:29.000 One guy went on MSNBC and says, That was the Soviet Union!
01:12:31.000 People believe the media Some of them story years. They said Trump was a Russian
01:12:36.000 asset. Of course. I'm not denying One guy went on MSNBC and says we must entertain the
01:12:42.000 possibility that Donald Trump has been working with the Russians since 1987
01:12:46.000 Yeah, that was a Soviet Union Eric. Well said that he was a Russian agent. Yep as he was banging
01:12:52.000 Fangfang.
01:12:53.000 As he was with Ms.
01:12:54.000 Fangfang.
01:12:56.000 It's crazy.
01:12:57.000 It's absolutely... And he was talking about honeypots as well, saying that there was Russian honeypots with... Did you hear what they said on Fox News about Swalwell and Fangfang?
01:13:05.000 No.
01:13:05.000 They were like, when you're a two and she's a ten, it's a honeypot.
01:13:10.000 Hold on, there's a Babylon Bee article that is absolutely brilliant with their headline today.
01:13:16.000 And the headline reads, Chinese spy assigned to date Eric Swalwell begs to be sent to labor camp instead.
01:13:25.000 That maybe happened, you know, it's probable.
01:13:29.000 But again, when we talk about this whole Russian collusion thing, if he's playing up to the mainstream media so they don't call him a Russian asset, what is he trading in for that?
01:13:36.000 Sending an innocent mail and sending a very... I mean, Cassandra, what do you think about this?
01:13:41.000 I mean, I was a witness for the defense in the extradition hearing.
01:13:45.000 So, I mean, I personally testified kind of against Trump because I was given information that Donald Trump personally ordered Julian's arrest.
01:13:56.000 So, I mean, I'm personally not overly confident that he's going to do a pardon.
01:14:02.000 But I'm hopeful, you know, maybe.
01:14:04.000 How is it that Trump didn't learn?
01:14:06.000 And listen, the media was spitting on him every single day, and he thinks they would ever give him a fair shake.
01:14:14.000 Yeah.
01:14:14.000 He could have actually gotten evidence that, you know, about who the source was for the DNC leaks, and the media would just say it's fake news.
01:14:21.000 Right.
01:14:21.000 They would say Julian Assange lies and claims fake news, but we know it's Russia!
01:14:25.000 What would he get out of it?
01:14:25.000 WikiLeaks has never had to redact or apologize for a story in history.
01:14:29.000 They've never once published something that was false.
01:14:32.000 Retract.
01:14:33.000 They do redact.
01:14:34.000 Retract.
01:14:35.000 Right.
01:14:35.000 Did I say redact?
01:14:36.000 I think so.
01:14:37.000 She said retract.
01:14:38.000 Oh, she said both.
01:14:41.000 But if you look at what they're accused of, they're accused of essentially what the New York Times does, what the Washington Post does every day.
01:14:47.000 All these websites use the WikiLeaks model now for submitting anonymous stories.
01:14:51.000 No, no, no, you guys are wrong.
01:14:53.000 WikiLeaks does not do what the New York Times does.
01:14:55.000 The New York Times is a propaganda arm for the establishment.
01:14:58.000 Wikileaks publishes true information.
01:14:59.000 Sorry, what the New York Times used to do.
01:15:01.000 No, no, no, purports to do.
01:15:04.000 OK.
01:15:04.000 Do you guys remember back when the Palin emails went out on Wikileaks?
01:15:08.000 Oh, yeah.
01:15:10.000 Washington Post set up a Twitter account that was still active last year when I looked for it.
01:15:15.000 But they were they were calling for volunteers to help go through Palin's emails and then look at what they did with Clinton's emails.
01:15:22.000 Look what they did with Hunter Biden's emails.
01:15:24.000 Yeah.
01:15:25.000 But now they're all talking about it because they want Kamala.
01:15:28.000 Yes.
01:15:28.000 Yep.
01:15:29.000 Kamala.
01:15:30.000 Whatever.
01:15:31.000 I don't care.
01:15:31.000 You're going to be put in the gulag there.
01:15:33.000 Because I have no respect for her whatsoever and I don't give a crap what her name actually is.
01:15:38.000 I got to clarify about Assange.
01:15:40.000 So in the beginning, he released a bunch of sensitive information and then they charged him with statutory rape.
01:15:46.000 Is that right?
01:15:47.000 No.
01:15:48.000 I mean, hold on.
01:15:48.000 On the surface, basically.
01:15:49.000 Do you want the timeline here?
01:15:51.000 So basically, he got these cables from Manning.
01:16:01.000 WikiLeaks was spending about nine months so far redacting all these names and making sure that nobody was going to get hurt because of it.
01:16:08.000 That they were taking out locations of people who were sensitive, who were in Afghanistan or whatever.
01:16:15.000 But then Luke Harding from The Guardian released a book that had the password and a former WikiLeaks employee put out a link to the full file, unredacted.
01:16:28.000 And so combined these two pieces of information put together, led to websites like Cryptome and Pirate Bay all putting
01:16:38.000 out the unredacted files.
01:16:40.000 And so Julian attempted to contact the State Department and be like,
01:16:43.000 hey guys, we have a problem.
01:16:45.000 We've been redacting everything, but it's coming out.
01:16:49.000 And the State Department basically told him to screw off.
01:16:53.000 And so they ultimately ended up having to release everything.
01:16:57.000 But it leads to an interesting question.
01:17:01.000 WikiLeaks wasn't actually the first to publish the unredacted files, so how come the 50 other outlets that published before WikiLeaks Didn't get charged and WikiLeaks didn't get charged.
01:17:13.000 Why isn't Luke Harding sitting in an embassy somewhere?
01:17:17.000 So there was a case in Sweden where the government was basically accusing him of, I think it was what a condom broke or something.
01:17:25.000 Yeah, a condom broke and there was a love triangle.
01:17:29.000 Well, was he having sex with an underage woman?
01:17:30.000 No, no, no, no.
01:17:32.000 There's never even been an allegation of that.
01:17:34.000 I guess they wanted to get him an STD test.
01:17:37.000 That's what it was.
01:17:37.000 And so the police were like, ah, yes, we're going to arrest him for rape.
01:17:41.000 And so he was wanted for questioning.
01:17:43.000 He said, Sweden has an extradition treaty with the U.S.
01:17:46.000 and they're trying to get me.
01:17:47.000 So he went, he was actually arrested, wasn't he?
01:17:50.000 He was arrested by British authorities and put in a British prison.
01:17:52.000 No, well, yeah, but he was on house arrest.
01:17:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:17:56.000 He was first, he was arrested.
01:17:57.000 He went to a British jail or prison.
01:17:59.000 Then they put him on house arrest with an ankle monitor, right?
01:18:01.000 And then he went to the Ecuadorian embassy.
01:18:03.000 He was arrested for rape charges?
01:18:04.000 No.
01:18:05.000 No, he was never charged with rape.
01:18:07.000 But we have to understand that American mainstream media ran with headlines saying Julian Assange is a rapist who's now gonna get Americans killed all over the world.
01:18:16.000 Women Against Rape, a feminist organization, even came out and said that by calling a condom breaking rape You are doing a disservice to rape victims everywhere.
01:18:26.000 But we have to understand there was many mainstream media publications that ran with that.
01:18:29.000 And I remember being at the court proceeding for Chelsea Manning and it coming out that the leak didn't, like, didn't lead to anyone dying.
01:18:40.000 But that was the major thing that the mainstream media was running with.
01:18:43.000 The Pentagon submitted that.
01:18:45.000 Julian Assange, I'll tell you what my opinion is.
01:18:47.000 The whole Swedish investigation was dropped.
01:18:50.000 Like the moment they snatched him up and they're like, okay, we got him.
01:18:52.000 Okay, forget all that stuff.
01:18:53.000 We don't care anymore.
01:18:54.000 It was very obvious Julian Assange was right the whole time.
01:18:57.000 It was an excuse to get him to Sweden.
01:18:59.000 They could send him back to the U.S.
01:19:01.000 That was the big plan.
01:19:02.000 They wanted to lock him down, lock him up.
01:19:04.000 They got him locked up in the Ecuadorian embassy for years, hindering his ability to work.
01:19:07.000 Finally, he gets pulled out by Trump.
01:19:09.000 Julian Assange was a thorn in the side of the political establishment and the deep state intelligence agencies.
01:19:14.000 He was doing work as a journalist and he was doing good work.
01:19:18.000 And so they said, well, we can't have that.
01:19:20.000 We own all the other journalists.
01:19:22.000 You know, I'm saying that figuratively because they're all very much in the bag.
01:19:26.000 I think most people who work for these companies are activists who just love the Democrats in the establishment.
01:19:30.000 Thomas Jefferson said that the political parties will always maintain a standing army of newswriters who will do whatever the party wishes.
01:19:40.000 But pulled out is one term.
01:19:42.000 Getting him out of there and charging him and now making him face charges is another term.
01:19:46.000 So that's also another aspect that we have to understand here.
01:19:49.000 Because he is facing very serious charges that could lead him to have jail for the rest of his life.
01:19:55.000 170 years.
01:19:56.000 Exactly.
01:19:56.000 Espionage Act charges.
01:19:57.000 Trump better pardon this dude, I swear.
01:20:01.000 Look, they're saying... I'm going to clip that myself.
01:20:03.000 Yes, do it.
01:20:04.000 Trump better pardon this dude, I swear.
01:20:05.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:20:06.000 Listen, Donald Trump Is facing criminal investigations at the state level.
01:20:11.000 Joe Biden says he's not going to go after him.
01:20:14.000 So, you know, I was reading this thing.
01:20:16.000 It's really fascinating.
01:20:16.000 It's from Ulysses S. Grant.
01:20:18.000 He wrote about the Civil War and he said, if anybody feels that they're oppressed by the government, it's their right to revolution.
01:20:23.000 But you have to recognize you're putting your life, your property, and your guarantees of citizenship on the line when you do.
01:20:28.000 Well, they're basically threatening Trump supporters and Trump with that already.
01:20:32.000 COVID's taken away people's property, their life, their pursuit of happiness, and all of that.
01:20:36.000 And so their choices are extremely limited right now.
01:20:39.000 It's like, what do I do?
01:20:39.000 Stand up, fight back, or lose everything?
01:20:42.000 Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of the state-level criminal investigations.
01:20:46.000 They are threatening his life, his property, and his guarantees as a citizen after all this goes down, after he leaves office, assuming that's what happens.
01:20:54.000 So Trump has every reason to fight to the bitter end.
01:20:56.000 But if Trump loses support of people by not making sure he abides by what the actual populists write, and many on the populist left, as much as they might not like him, if he just says, I'm going to cozy up to the establishment, fine, I won't pardon Assange, well then who's going to be supporting him when he's a citizen and they're going after him with these crazy messages?
01:21:16.000 No one.
01:21:16.000 They'll steamroll him and throw him under the bus if he does that.
01:21:18.000 And people are going to be like, well, a lot of people support and respect Trump.
01:21:23.000 He needs to show the people that he's going to stand up to the establishment.
01:21:27.000 He needs to pardon people like Assange and Snowden and Ross Ulbricht.
01:21:34.000 Geez, I would support him if he did that.
01:21:35.000 We need a freedom fighter, yeah.
01:21:36.000 I don't think necessarily going to guarantee him more support.
01:21:38.000 He's always going to have his base, but I think if he's, I would support him if he did that, if he's part of the
01:21:43.000 freedom fighter.
01:21:44.000 Yeah.
01:21:44.000 What if he pardoned all nonviolent drug offenders who didn't plead down?
01:21:48.000 Like did a review?
01:21:49.000 That's a big thing.
01:21:49.000 I'm not too concerned with all or none things right now.
01:21:53.000 That's too complex.
01:21:56.000 There's just some people that need to not be charged first.
01:21:59.000 I think Trump should rubber stamp the pardons, just dishing them out.
01:22:01.000 He should make it rain pardons.
01:22:03.000 I mean, everybody likes to lump in Julian with all these other people, particularly Snowden.
01:22:08.000 I think that Julian's situation is much more dire and it deserves to be discussed.
01:22:12.000 It's almost fraudulent the way they went after the guy.
01:22:15.000 Absolutely.
01:22:16.000 It was so obvious to everybody.
01:22:18.000 These accusations against him, the smears in the media.
01:22:21.000 He was doing real work, publishing real journalism for the first time in a long time.
01:22:26.000 And you know what?
01:22:26.000 The powers that be are like, listen, our friends, you want to know how it works?
01:22:30.000 When you work for these news organizations, they're called access journalists.
01:22:33.000 They're like, I better not make the CIA angry because they give me great scoops.
01:22:38.000 And WikiLeaks embarrassed a lot of those journalists.
01:22:41.000 Like, it came out that they were, you know, getting flipped stories from the DNC, that they were, you know, sliding over the debate questions to Hillary Clinton.
01:22:51.000 WikiLeaks embarrassed the media just as much as it embarrassed politicians.
01:22:59.000 If Donald Trump really wants to get back at these people, Donald Trump has spent 4 years being like, the fake news, the fake news, we need real news.
01:23:07.000 If he actually believed that, and he actually wanted to fight against fake news, and against the deep state that's been going after him for 4 years, this is the best way to do it.
01:23:16.000 Stick it to them by showing them what real journalism is and freeing Julian Assange.
01:23:21.000 And more than that, a broad pardon to protect Julian from other bunk BS charges.
01:23:26.000 A very broad preemptive pardon.
01:23:28.000 Yeah.
01:23:29.000 Another thing that came out that you just brought up was the fact that the DNC wasn't just directing the news, but literally writing the news.
01:23:36.000 Where mainstream media journalists sent articles for approval from the DNC.
01:23:41.000 And we're talking about, this is the mainstream media, this is the establishment.
01:23:44.000 Many people had to resign in disgrace because they got caught red-handed just being puppeteers for the establishment, not actual critical thinkers and safeguards in the fourth branch of the government.
01:23:55.000 They weren't any of that.
01:23:57.000 They were puppeteers, horse stream media, prostitutes that literally regurgitated their talking points to the T.
01:24:03.000 This is a bipartisan thing too.
01:24:05.000 You guys were both at the DNC, right?
01:24:07.000 Yes.
01:24:07.000 Outside the DNC they were chanting, Hillary cheats, thank you WikiLeaks.
01:24:12.000 Yeah.
01:24:12.000 After Bernie conceded.
01:24:13.000 Yep.
01:24:14.000 And that chant went on for a long time and then they started taking away people's signs because there were people who had WikiLeaks signs, Bernie signs.
01:24:23.000 DNC people came around with the trash bags, started throwing them all away.
01:24:26.000 They had white noise machines, didn't they?
01:24:28.000 Yeah.
01:24:28.000 Wow.
01:24:29.000 But now you have this new generation of younger leftists who don't like Assange and don't know anything about him.
01:24:34.000 Well, it's because they don't know.
01:24:36.000 They think politics started in 2017 or whatever.
01:24:40.000 They're like, Orange Man bad.
01:24:42.000 And they don't remember.
01:24:43.000 None of them had to bury their friends like we did.
01:24:46.000 After they, like, got shipped off to Afghanistan.
01:24:49.000 I mean, I got mostly involved in politics after my friend died in Afghanistan.
01:24:53.000 And so when, when WikiLeaks put out those releases, the war logs, I was like, this is, this is it.
01:25:00.000 This is like, this is something that I will forever support and stand for.
01:25:04.000 But these people, they think that politics just started and they don't understand the, Trump is bad.
01:25:10.000 We gotta vote for Biden.
01:25:11.000 He's just an old man.
01:25:12.000 What was the war logs?
01:25:16.000 Well, it was 200... Was collateral murder part of it?
01:25:19.000 Yes.
01:25:20.000 But it was a whole bunch of cables and documents that showed, you know, the cost of war, essentially.
01:25:28.000 It showed U.S.
01:25:31.000 government killed a Reuters Well, so... Camera?
01:25:33.000 With your photojournalist?
01:25:34.000 And then they lied about it, yeah.
01:25:36.000 Listen, listen.
01:25:36.000 Collateral Murder was probably one of the biggest releases from... It's on YouTube, right?
01:25:40.000 It was.
01:25:41.000 Yeah, it was.
01:25:41.000 It got taken down a lot.
01:25:43.000 It's a video showing people walk out of a building, and then they just, like, kill them all.
01:25:47.000 And it turns out it was, like, a Reuters journalist.
01:25:49.000 Not just them, but also the ambulance that came afterwards, and they shot up an ambulance with a small child inside.
01:25:55.000 We also didn't really know how many civilians were dying, or just how much death was happening in general.
01:26:02.000 So by releasing all these cables, people in America got a chance to actually see what this war was costing us, and what it was costing people all over the world.
01:26:13.000 And support, because of WikiLeaks directly, support for the wars went down and people started getting brought back.
01:26:21.000 And the truth shall set you free.
01:26:22.000 Some other guy released an unredacted report and Julian got busted for it.
01:26:27.000 It's a little complicated, but basically the files were being held online and there was a really encrypted password that you needed to get to it.
01:26:39.000 But different news organizations that were working with WikiLeaks all had this password so that they could all go because there were so many files.
01:26:46.000 So they partnered with like The Guardian and all these newspapers.
01:26:50.000 They all had access to it.
01:26:52.000 But then Luke Harding wrote a book about Wikileaks and he put the passcode in the book and the passcode had not changed.
01:26:59.000 And so instead of being able to go through and redact all these files, it all got put on Pirate Bay and Cryptome.org and all these websites.
01:27:10.000 And so Julian, it was either, you know, pull the trigger or, you know, lose the story.
01:27:15.000 I still remember this collateral murder video because it was absolutely shocking to finally see the true reality of what was going on there and to see helicopter pilots laugh and be so inappropriate when it came to executing what then we found out was journalists.
01:27:31.000 We also found out that Reuters was asking the U.S.
01:27:33.000 government what happened, what was going on here, and the U.S.
01:27:36.000 government just kept denying the family members, the journalists, their friends, their company.
01:27:41.000 They couldn't find anything about what actually happened, how they died, until this video came out.
01:27:48.000 which again just finally showed the American people the reality of war
01:27:53.000 because we have to understand this Iraq war was a mainstream media war.
01:27:57.000 It was squeegee cleaned, it was there was PR talking points, there was
01:28:01.000 weapons of mass destruction, there was an yellow page, there was embedded news reporters within
01:28:05.000 the military showing you a perspective of go America it's great.
01:28:09.000 Not the perspective that the American people saw in Vietnam, where journalists actually saw and reported on the realities of war, which made a lot of people anti-war in the United States.
01:28:20.000 We didn't have that.
01:28:21.000 But finally, with Wikileaks, we finally got the reporting that we got during the Vietnam War and people started to finally ask questions and saying, this is not protecting my freedoms.
01:28:31.000 These guys with sandals in the middle of the desert aren't a threat to me.
01:28:35.000 And we have bloodthirsty psychopaths who are literally foaming at the mouth, celebrating and are happy that they just shot up innocent people and journalists.
01:28:43.000 That was, the video footage was from the Bush administration, wasn't it?
01:28:46.000 Yes.
01:28:47.000 And then it carried on under the Obama administration.
01:28:49.000 Yeah, no matter what you feel about Manning, too, I remember during the trial, Manning was like, it was like watching children torturing ants with a magnifying glass.
01:28:57.000 And I never forgot that.
01:28:59.000 It always stuck with me.
01:29:01.000 And for what?
01:29:02.000 For what?
01:29:03.000 For Halliburton contracts?
01:29:04.000 Yes.
01:29:05.000 To gain strategic territory surrounding Iran because people like John Bolton want to celebrate in Tehran?
01:29:09.000 It's not even strategic territory.
01:29:11.000 The Iraq war made Iran more powerful and it allowed them to expand their sphere of influence in the region which makes them a bigger threat against the US geopolitical neocon power.
01:29:23.000 So it didn't even serve the original objective that they said it was serving, and it did the opposite of that.
01:29:28.000 Again, order out of chaos, creating more problems, which later on they're gonna have an excuse to solve, which is absolutely crazy.
01:29:33.000 I just had a crazy idea.
01:29:35.000 What if we just take the troops out of these countries and bring them back here?
01:29:40.000 What?
01:29:41.000 Well, the NDAA this year has a provision in it.
01:29:45.000 No, no!
01:29:46.000 They're trying to pass a provision within the NDAA that would prevent a president from sending troops back home.
01:29:52.000 Okay, so hold on.
01:29:53.000 The NDAA is the National Defense Authorization.
01:29:56.000 It's basically them approving the budget and spending for all of this stuff when it comes to war.
01:30:01.000 And Trump keeps saying he's going to veto it, and every time he does, I just laugh.
01:30:04.000 And I just want to put my feet up and crack a beer and be like, do it.
01:30:08.000 Just do it.
01:30:08.000 I mean, he's threatening to repeal Section 230, which is a big mistake.
01:30:12.000 But didn't Rand Paul jam up the NDAA as well?
01:30:16.000 Yes, he did a whole filibuster.
01:30:17.000 He always filibusters.
01:30:19.000 And he's now speaking out against it as well.
01:30:21.000 And he's bringing up the fact that, you know, under this NDAA, a president has unlimited power to send troops anywhere in the world, start any war he wants, lead people to death easily just with a decree.
01:30:34.000 But sending them home, he can't now without congressional approval.
01:30:37.000 So that's in the new NDAA that they're trying to get past, which is insane.
01:30:42.000 Man, this political establishment.
01:30:44.000 That's sick.
01:30:44.000 You know what, it's like the people in power right now, I guess why I was describing it, is like the neocons slap social justice as a wrapping, and now they're like Democrats, I guess?
01:30:54.000 It's like the same thing?
01:30:55.000 No, the neocons in festival parties, they always have.
01:30:58.000 And, you know, as soon as the right started being a little bit anti-war, you know, Bill Kristol slithered over to the Democrats and was like, hi guys, peeking out from his festering trash bag.
01:31:11.000 Wait, you say slither though, but what's it called when like slugs like ooze their way?
01:31:16.000 What's it called?
01:31:17.000 Sliming.
01:31:18.000 Sliming their way?
01:31:19.000 That's more, you know.
01:31:20.000 We saw militants rather than neocons.
01:31:24.000 Neocons are a very specific group of people.
01:31:29.000 What I'm saying is the difference between a neocon and a neolib is that one is pro-social justice.
01:31:35.000 Like, it's not a conservative thing to go to war.
01:31:37.000 That's a very liberal action.
01:31:38.000 It's not.
01:31:39.000 It's the opposite.
01:31:39.000 It's both parties, though.
01:31:41.000 These people have infested both parties.
01:31:43.000 And I don't even think it's fair to say that it's just, you know, Republicans or that all the neocons have went over to the Democrats, because it's not true.
01:31:52.000 We still have Dan Crenshaw.
01:31:53.000 They have Bill Kristol.
01:31:54.000 These people from PNAC all have spread out all over the place.
01:31:58.000 And everybody just seems to forget all the things that they've lobbied for and the things that they've done.
01:32:02.000 But if you if, God forbid, you tweeted 15 years ago some kind of joke that's now perceived racist, they're not going to forget that.
01:32:11.000 But if you lobbied for the Iraq war and lied us into war, You'll get elected president.
01:32:16.000 Yeah.
01:32:17.000 You can fit in with both parties.
01:32:18.000 They'll put you on MSNBC.
01:32:19.000 Mitch McConnell will say, players don't vote for Trump.
01:32:23.000 We need Joe Biden to win so we can blow up more camps.
01:32:26.000 Do you guys know who Daniel Ellsberg is?
01:32:28.000 Yes.
01:32:28.000 He released the Pentagon Papers, which basically got us out of Vietnam.
01:32:33.000 He's a big advocate of Julian.
01:32:34.000 Yeah well also we just had the Afghanistan papers which were just released and again just a blip on the mainstream media and then never really talked about again showed again almost exact similarities to you know the Vietnam War when it specifically came to a pointless endeavor that doesn't help anyone except for the military contractors with even mainline US military officials saying there's absolutely no reason we're in here but we still are.
01:32:59.000 This country flourished best when there was an honest, well I shouldn't say there was an honest press, but when there were good journalists doing the work, when there was a balance between the government and the people and public right to know, the weird things that Luke brought up like the heart attack gun, we eventually learn about these things because journalists did their job, but these people thought it would just be so easier If the, if the journalists were just in our pockets, if we just, we can, we can feed them these stories and they'll be too scared to spigot against us.
01:33:25.000 They'll support the establishment, get the activists in these organizations.
01:33:29.000 And now there's none.
01:33:30.000 So there's no challenge to a runaway broken system.
01:33:33.000 The corrupt keep corrupting and the system is decaying rapidly because of it.
01:33:36.000 And independent media is the only institution still calling it out.
01:33:40.000 And that's why we're seeing a lot of it just absolutely censored.
01:33:43.000 We won't exist anymore, a lot of us, if Julian Assange is thrown in prison.
01:33:48.000 I mean, what kind of precedent is this setting?
01:33:51.000 As soon as, you know, we have some ultra-left administration in there, they're gonna toss all the right-wing journalists in jail.
01:33:58.000 The right's gonna toss all the leftist journalists in jail.
01:34:01.000 Like, this case sets a horrifying precedent, and people need to think about it in terms—think about The opposite party.
01:34:10.000 And if you would want the opposite party having this power.
01:34:13.000 People are bad at that.
01:34:14.000 People are.
01:34:14.000 Yeah.
01:34:15.000 They don't they don't think beyond what's happening now.
01:34:18.000 And I think one of the issues to Glenn Greenwald brought up an interesting point that he said something like if there's one group of people that is the complete inability to learn, it's liberals who advocate for censorship.
01:34:28.000 But I think what you know what I was realizing when we had some of these guests on who were younger and they're leftists.
01:34:34.000 A lot of these people who are advocating for censorship, they're young.
01:34:39.000 They didn't go through Occupy Wall Street or the anti-war protests, so they didn't see the problems caused by all this.
01:34:46.000 Now, they're just entering politics for the first time, and they're all going, yay, and cheering for the establishment, and raising their fists in support of the machine.
01:34:54.000 Dude, 9-11 was insane.
01:34:56.000 I was in New York City.
01:34:58.000 I worked at Ground Zero.
01:34:59.000 I thought we got attacked and then I started seeing all this evidence that the buildings came down in free fall and that it was a demolition.
01:35:06.000 Dude, if that was a demolition and that we were lied to, this entire world war for the last 20 years is a lie.
01:35:14.000 WikiLeaks has released a lot of emails about 9-11.
01:35:17.000 You should read them.
01:35:19.000 Which ones specifically stand out to you?
01:35:23.000 I don't remember.
01:35:24.000 There's like 300,000 of them.
01:35:26.000 One thing you learn a lot from things like WikiLeaks is how a lot of the world is not grandiose conspiracy, but individual or small group corruption, self-interest, and complete and total incompetence.
01:35:40.000 Like people, like the Iraq War for instance.
01:35:43.000 It's gonna benefit all these people.
01:35:45.000 What was that movie with, what's his face?
01:35:48.000 Who played, he played George W. Bush, Josh Brolin.
01:35:50.000 Was it called W?
01:35:51.000 Was that what it was?
01:35:52.000 And you had the scene where Dick Cheney's like, if there's a 1% chance that sandwich has got salmonella with you.
01:35:56.000 And he goes, oh come on!
01:35:57.000 Come on, Dick.
01:35:58.000 No, I can't eat it.
01:35:59.000 It wasn't Brolin.
01:36:00.000 I know what you're talking about.
01:36:01.000 It wasn't Brolin?
01:36:01.000 No, it was called Vice.
01:36:02.000 The movie's called Vice.
01:36:03.000 No, no, no.
01:36:04.000 I'm talking about an older movie.
01:36:04.000 Oh, yeah.
01:36:05.000 No, maybe it was Brolin.
01:36:06.000 I would actually kind of disagree with you because if you look at the way the establishment has been getting their way, I think there's an argument to make here that they are somewhat in charge and that a lot of times they blame it on incompetency as a cover.
01:36:18.000 I think that's also a possible reality that we have to entertain here that I think is probable.
01:36:24.000 Well, the difference between a grandiose conspiracy and powerful elites leveraging their power for personal gain, I guess.
01:36:29.000 Yeah, like bumbling their Halliburton into Iraq.
01:36:32.000 Like, it didn't seem... It wasn't well orchestrated.
01:36:35.000 They were real blatant about putting Dick Cheney's company... They just say it and they just do it and no one cares.
01:36:40.000 They're like, Dick Cheney... Well, he was a former CEO, wasn't he?
01:36:43.000 Of Halliburton?
01:36:44.000 He's like... Was he?
01:36:46.000 I don't know.
01:36:46.000 I don't know.
01:36:47.000 But it's like, dude... They can just come out and say it and everyone just says, okay.
01:36:52.000 This is because they have journalists in their back pocket, and when you have the journalists in your pocket, you don't have to confront hard truths.
01:36:57.000 I think it's that there's no political willpower among the only people who actually care.
01:37:01.000 You've got the Democrats who are basically like, whatever Jimmy Kimmel tells me, I'm
01:37:05.000 going to go vote for Biden.
01:37:06.000 And then you've got low information left.
01:37:09.000 The people who are older who just watch Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert have no idea what's going
01:37:13.000 They're dumb as a box of rocks.
01:37:14.000 Then you got young people with no political experience whatsoever celebrating the establishment.
01:37:18.000 Great.
01:37:18.000 Maybe in 10 years you'll realize why you were wrong.
01:37:20.000 Then on the conservative side, Republicans, you know what they're saying right now on reddit on r slash conservative?
01:37:25.000 You know what I'm gonna do tomorrow after seeing that, you know, Joe Biden won the electoral college?
01:37:28.000 I'm gonna wake up, go to work, and I'm gonna carry on with my life.
01:37:31.000 And then I'll keep voting and advocating for my cause.
01:37:34.000 Congratulations.
01:37:35.000 Great.
01:37:35.000 I love it.
01:37:36.000 And how's that been working out for you?
01:37:38.000 Trump supporters are fighting, and they're fervent.
01:37:40.000 MAGA party.
01:37:41.000 Make your own political party, and watch the Republicans squirm, because if you're not getting what you want anyway, why vote for the Republicans?
01:37:48.000 At the very least, you can say you stood up for what you believed in.
01:37:51.000 And maybe the Democrats gain control and they do what they want, fine.
01:37:54.000 You know what?
01:37:54.000 If the Democrats do, they're not gonna get- the progressives are gonna be really angry because they're not gonna be supporting them.
01:38:00.000 And maybe they'll fracture eventually, or you'll say to regular people, this is why the Republicans have failed you.
01:38:05.000 They're allowing all that to happen.
01:38:07.000 It's about time someone in this country got some political willpower, some wind at their back, and said, we are going to do something totally different, not support these Republicans who don't care about us.
01:38:16.000 And not only that, The traditional Republicans don't even really align with what the new MAGA party is.
01:38:21.000 It's diverse.
01:38:22.000 There's people of different backgrounds.
01:38:24.000 You've got black Trump supporters, gay Trump supporters, gay men, lesbians, people LGBT.
01:38:28.000 Trump has done something unique in awakening people who've been paying attention and getting the riled up and stand behind him.
01:38:34.000 Now they need to assert themselves as their own party and stop voting Republican.
01:38:38.000 And other Republicans are gonna get mad.
01:38:40.000 They're gonna be like, Tim's gonna help Democrats win.
01:38:41.000 I don't care about them either.
01:38:42.000 And I don't care about the Republicans.
01:38:44.000 I don't care which one.
01:38:44.000 They're all the same.
01:38:45.000 The Republicans don't stand for any of the things that... I mean, a lot of us like Trump because he's America first.
01:38:51.000 He cares about putting America first.
01:38:53.000 If we're not, you know... How is building a school in Iraq putting America first?
01:38:59.000 It's not.
01:39:00.000 So he wants to bring our troops home and things like that.
01:39:03.000 That's not... Those aren't Republican beliefs.
01:39:05.000 We all know those aren't Republican beliefs.
01:39:07.000 So if you're getting the same thing from Democrats and Republicans, then all that's really happening is like, vote Republican to kick the can down the road for another year, or vote Democrat to make the can come right to her front door, or vote for something better than kicking a can.
01:39:20.000 In my opinion, it's because people keep voting for the lesser of two evils, why we can't have nice things.
01:39:26.000 I don't know.
01:39:27.000 I don't even, you know, I see what you're saying.
01:39:28.000 Yeah.
01:39:29.000 But like the Democrats are fighting for things and demanding things and
01:39:32.000 screaming and pounding on walls and throwing bricks.
01:39:35.000 The conservatives are going, whoa, I don't know about all that.
01:39:37.000 I'm just going to go home and, you know, do not hold on.
01:39:40.000 No, there were a lot of people out in DC on Saturday.
01:39:42.000 Those are Trump supporters.
01:39:43.000 True.
01:39:43.000 The Trump supporters are saying, rabble, rabble, rabble.
01:39:46.000 And we saw the Proud Boys acting a whole lot like Antifa.
01:39:48.000 And I criticized it.
01:39:49.000 I support it.
01:39:50.000 Well, I'll tell you this.
01:39:51.000 Oh yeah, I do.
01:39:53.000 So we saw, in D.C., Proud Boys came out and were tearing down Black Lives Matter banners and burning them.
01:40:01.000 Cassandra's cheering for it.
01:40:02.000 Heck yeah.
01:40:02.000 I don't think stealing people's property and burning it, I don't agree with it.
01:40:06.000 I, you know, I am fine with it.
01:40:08.000 They have been burning down cities for almost a year.
01:40:10.000 They came, I mean, I have personal beef because my, I had to move.
01:40:16.000 But did that church who paid for a banner, should they be, have their banner destroyed?
01:40:21.000 It's a banner.
01:40:21.000 Their insurance will cover it.
01:40:22.000 That's what they've been telling us for a year.
01:40:24.000 See, the problem I had with that was, did that church do that?
01:40:28.000 If Antifa wants to act a fool, and the Proud Boys say, we'll play, we'll play with you.
01:40:33.000 If Antifa says, we want the arena of violence.
01:40:35.000 Antifa burned an actual church.
01:40:36.000 Absolutely.
01:40:37.000 And everybody defended it.
01:40:39.000 Well, I mean, yeah, the liberal media.
01:40:41.000 The media makes excuse for it.
01:40:42.000 Listen.
01:40:42.000 And now they're crying over a banner?
01:40:44.000 They want me to shed tears over a banner?
01:40:47.000 When they were justifying the church that was a mile and a half from my house catching on fire?
01:40:51.000 Uh-uh.
01:40:52.000 You can complain about the media, and you can complain about Antifa, but I'm not gonna support anyone victimizing the innocent and the uninvolved.
01:40:58.000 I don't mind it.
01:40:59.000 It was a banner.
01:41:00.000 It was a political banner.
01:41:01.000 I don't care.
01:41:02.000 I, honest to God, I am glad that they're out there, and I'm glad that they're causing a heck.
01:41:06.000 That church isn't Antifa.
01:41:07.000 That church isn't Antifa.
01:41:08.000 It doesn't matter.
01:41:09.000 Why not?
01:41:10.000 I don't support any group stealing other people's stuff and burning it and destroying it.
01:41:15.000 I'll tell you this though, if Antifa says we want the arena of violence and the Proud Boys say, much obliged, well then why am I going to shed a tear for Antifa?
01:41:23.000 So when the video comes out of these two Antifa getting stomped out and chased down the street, and all of a sudden the top post on Reddit is like, Proud Boys are attacking innocent protesters!
01:41:31.000 I'm like, they've been BEGGING for this.
01:41:34.000 They're the ones who put out message after message saying violence is the only answer, we must punch Proud Boys.
01:41:39.000 And the Proud Boys are like, much obliged!
01:41:41.000 They want to play.
01:41:42.000 But if the Proud Boys want to tear down a church's banner, that has nothing to do with this, that wasn't rioting or protesting, that's stealing property and destroying someone else's stuff.
01:41:48.000 I don't agree with it.
01:41:50.000 It doesn't bother me at all.
01:41:52.000 Honestly, I'll pretend that I care if you go on, but I don't.
01:41:54.000 No, we can disagree.
01:41:55.000 I think that, you know, we can't even put up Trump signs in D.C.
01:42:02.000 Like, when I was living in D.C., if I had put up a Trump sign or even an American flag, my house would have got vandalized.
01:42:08.000 Like, there's a 0% chance that it would not have been.
01:42:11.000 And so I just have a really hard time pretending that I give any kind of craps about a sign.
01:42:18.000 I honestly don't.
01:42:20.000 We can't put up signs.
01:42:21.000 I can put them up now because I'm in West Virginia.
01:42:23.000 But if you live in a city or even close to a city, you can't put up a Trump sign.
01:42:28.000 You can't put up an American flag.
01:42:31.000 So why should they be able to put them up?
01:42:33.000 I think that, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
01:42:36.000 So many people told me that I shouldn't be allowed to put up Trump signs because it makes people uncomfortable, while Black Lives Matter signs make me uncomfortable.
01:42:43.000 Take them down.
01:42:44.000 Don't care.
01:42:44.000 Well, the Proud Boys are not traditional Republicans or conservatives, and they have political will, and they're stepping up, and they're saying, okay, Antifa, we'll play the game that you've asked us to play.
01:42:54.000 So look, when Antifa steals the flag from somebody and burns it, I say you're stealing someone's private property.
01:43:01.000 You want to burn your own flag, that's a first amendment right to go do it.
01:43:03.000 I don't like anybody vandalizing someone else's property.
01:43:06.000 If the Proud Boys go out, Antifa shows up, and then the Antifa gets stomped out, well, They asked for it.
01:43:13.000 Far be it for me to tell Antifa that they shouldn't get what they've asked for.
01:43:16.000 They've literally been saying, they post these comics where you must not tolerate intolerance, we must punch these people.
01:43:22.000 Okay, well, if you want to fight them, by all means, you're allowed to do it.
01:43:25.000 If two people agree, not every state is like this, but there are mutual combat laws, where two people can go outside and say, we agree to fight, and they fight, and one person gets hurt, the cops say, it's mutual combat.
01:43:35.000 So if that's what Antifa wants, then I'm not going to complain when the Proud Boys go and stomp them out because they begged for it.
01:43:41.000 burning private property I have a problem with.
01:43:43.000 I see the Black Lives Matter flag no different than I see an ISIS flag.
01:43:47.000 And I'm not going to cry over a domestic terror organization's flag coming down. I'm not.
01:43:51.000 And I honestly, like, I don't feel bad for them.
01:43:58.000 I just don't.
01:43:59.000 And I think it's ridiculous that the media wants everybody in the country to cry over this stupid freaking poster when, you know, four Proud Boys got stabbed.
01:44:07.000 There's all these other stories that happened.
01:44:09.000 That guy.
01:44:09.000 Critical condition.
01:44:10.000 That guy just got released.
01:44:12.000 He's not even being charged now.
01:44:14.000 They're claiming it was self-defense or whatever.
01:44:17.000 But it's like there's so many more important things in this banner.
01:44:21.000 And the fact that we can't even put up a Trump banner and feel comfortable because of how militarized and radicalized these people are.
01:44:29.000 I just, I'm not going to pretend to care.
01:44:32.000 I tweeted something a while ago.
01:44:33.000 I said, they say diversity and inclusivity, but there's certainly a limit to inclusivity and diversity, right?
01:44:40.000 Like they don't want to include Nazis.
01:44:42.000 That's fairly obvious.
01:44:43.000 So when they say diversity, you know, and inclusion, they don't actually mean those words.
01:44:49.000 What they actually mean is our approved groups should come together because there's even groups that aren't as offensive.
01:44:54.000 They would say no to.
01:44:56.000 If a very peaceful and loving, true Christian conservative came around, they'd say, GTFO.
01:45:01.000 Like Chris Pratt, who's apparently a really, really nice guy, and he wore a Gadsden shirt and he's a Christian, and they mock him and they insult him.
01:45:07.000 And as his, you know, Hollywood friends, they do defend him.
01:45:09.000 So clearly they're not trying to include even the good, peaceful individuals of diverse backgrounds.
01:45:15.000 So diversity and inclusivity doesn't mean anything.
01:45:16.000 In fact, I would dare say they're intolerant.
01:45:19.000 They're intolerant to people like Chris Pratt, and they keep sharing this comic that says, how do you deal with intolerance?
01:45:25.000 You must reject it from society, because if you tolerate intolerance, eventually intolerance wins.
01:45:31.000 Well, when they say the only way to solve this problem is to beat the authoritarians down to scare them away, the Proud Boys did that.
01:45:38.000 They showed up, they saw a bunch of black-clad individuals, and they beat them up, chased them away.
01:45:41.000 That's like communist and Nazi street violence pre-World War II.
01:45:45.000 I don't like it.
01:45:45.000 The Proud Boys going out there is like the Nazis going out and fighting back against the communists, or the communists going out and fighting against the fascists.
01:45:52.000 It's similar in some ways, but it's very different.
01:45:55.000 The core ideology of the Proud Boys is nothing like the Nazis.
01:45:59.000 I would feel more comfortable being defended by Proud Boys than the cops.
01:46:03.000 I would rather be in a crowd of Proud Boys than a crowd of cops.
01:46:07.000 I mean, I can't go out and cover rallies anymore because people recognize me, they spit at me, they surround me, they, you know, do all kinds of ridiculous stuff.
01:46:16.000 It's happened over and over.
01:46:17.000 The cops never came and defended me, but the Proud Boys did.
01:46:20.000 So I'm glad that the Proud Boys were out there.
01:46:22.000 I would like to see more of them out there, and I'm stoked.
01:46:26.000 I was thrilled to see them taking control of the situation, because the police haven't been doing it.
01:46:32.000 The only way I can put it is, if Antifa and the far leftists have been flying these comics and these banners saying, you can't tolerate intolerance, then I'm gonna be like, alright, I guess if you want the Proud Boys to go, you know, beat the crap out of you, Who am I to argue?
01:46:46.000 I don't like private property being destroyed.
01:46:48.000 I want people to be able to live and be peaceful.
01:46:51.000 And somebody wants to fly a flag for Trump, Gadsden flag.
01:46:54.000 What about ISIS flag?
01:46:55.000 If they want to fly it, if they have first amendment right to do so.
01:46:58.000 Would you want to be near them?
01:47:00.000 No, of course not.
01:47:01.000 I don't want to be near them.
01:47:02.000 I see it as them flying an ISIS flag in the middle of DC.
01:47:07.000 And I think they're allowed to do it.
01:47:09.000 I don't.
01:47:09.000 I think that they should be.
01:47:11.000 You don't think people should be allowed to fly an ISIS flag?
01:47:13.000 No.
01:47:14.000 Why not?
01:47:15.000 Because they're supporting terrorism.
01:47:17.000 I don't think they should.
01:47:17.000 But you have a right to free speech.
01:47:19.000 You can say you like certain things or don't.
01:47:23.000 If they incite and call for direct violence, then I'd be like, okay, that's bad.
01:47:27.000 Like, yeah, if somebody wants to say they're a bad person, I'm gonna be like, okay, well, thanks for letting me know.
01:47:31.000 I'll avoid you.
01:47:32.000 I don't know.
01:47:33.000 The people who fly ISIS flags generally do provide material support for ISIS.
01:47:38.000 Well, that's different.
01:47:38.000 If they do, then yeah.
01:47:39.000 But if someone wants to claim they like it, I'll be like, you're insane.
01:47:42.000 You're an insane person.
01:47:43.000 If they have an ISIS flag, they should probably be investigated.
01:47:45.000 Kind of like it's a Shagua Vera shirt doesn't really necessarily mean they support the violent murder of the gay
01:47:52.000 community Cuba and the LGBT
01:47:55.000 Vera was a murderer gays and blacks. He hated he hated LGBT and black will wear his face on their shirts
01:48:01.000 Yep, I kind of see Isis flags like that. Like I could wear an Isis flag on my shirt
01:48:05.000 I don't necessarily believe in what they do. It's just an image. Hmm. I wouldn't I
01:48:10.000 I think that's insane to wear an ISIS flag.
01:48:13.000 Well, I'm about to wear a We Are Change logo on my shirt.
01:48:16.000 That is over the line.
01:48:18.000 Hold on, hold on there.
01:48:19.000 I can defend free speech only so much.
01:48:21.000 Only so much.
01:48:22.000 I mean, these We Are Change shirts are pretty cool.
01:48:24.000 Like this one that says, you had me at F the system.
01:48:27.000 Side note, side note, side note.
01:48:29.000 Did you hear that Chris Pratt's character in Guardian of the Galaxy was announced to be a polyamorous bisexual yesterday?
01:48:37.000 In the comic.
01:48:38.000 Yes.
01:48:38.000 There was a comic about it.
01:48:39.000 Yeah.
01:48:40.000 So I don't know how that translates to Chris Pratt in the movies or whatever, but man, Marvel is so desperate to make this work.
01:48:47.000 Are they trying to own him for being a conservative?
01:48:50.000 Probably.
01:48:50.000 That's what I came up with.
01:48:51.000 One of the writers is probably like, alright, I'll do this and then he's gonna have to do it in the movie or whatever.
01:48:56.000 You know what, man?
01:48:57.000 There's two different countries.
01:48:58.000 We have two different countries here, clearly.
01:49:00.000 At least two.
01:49:02.000 The thing is, we always have.
01:49:03.000 That's the great thing about the United States.
01:49:04.000 We've had Italians and Africans and... No, that's not what I'm saying.
01:49:09.000 What I'm saying is... I mean, we've always had all these different cultures blending into one here.
01:49:13.000 No, that's not what I said.
01:49:14.000 We have two different countries.
01:49:15.000 We have people who believe in the Constitution and people who don't.
01:49:17.000 You have people who are... And people who kind of do.
01:49:19.000 And people who don't even know what the Constitution is.
01:49:21.000 And people who are obsessed with the Constitution.
01:49:22.000 The two parent cultures in the culture war are...
01:49:26.000 We can do whatever we want, and we're the collective, and we're in charge, and the leave-me-alone people.
01:49:31.000 It's very libertarian versus authoritarian, but there's a bunch of little nuanced factions in between.
01:49:36.000 So if you've got people who are like, we have a foundation of this country, the Constitution, that guarantees individual rights, and then you have the left saying, Governor Cuomo, by edict, can shut your store down and take away your income while he goes and parties with his friends.
01:49:51.000 That's the Democrats!
01:49:52.000 There's, like, constitutionalists, but then there's people like, the Constitution's not perfect.
01:49:56.000 There's a lot of crap in it.
01:49:57.000 The Federal Reserve Act?
01:49:59.000 Repeal it!
01:50:00.000 I'm not like a... Well, and the 13th Amendment has that, you know, pro-slavery imprisonment provision.
01:50:03.000 Yeah, we're supposed to change the Constitution.
01:50:05.000 There's people on all levels of the spectrum.
01:50:07.000 So, in fact, the Constitution is fantastic because it allows for amendment.
01:50:10.000 Yes, and diversity of thought.
01:50:12.000 The problem is, we're at a point where we're not going to get two-thirds of the states to ratify fixing some of these problems, because you've got one faction saying we should get rid of the... I mean, you've got the left literally writing in the New Republic, it's time to get rid of the Constitution.
01:50:25.000 That's kind of silly.
01:50:26.000 I think that we could get two-thirds of the states.
01:50:29.000 I don't.
01:50:29.000 With the internet, we could easily rally 80 million people to do something.
01:50:33.000 Two-thirds of the states.
01:50:34.000 You could get 80 million to vote for Biden.
01:50:36.000 We can't even get two-thirds of the states to vote for one or the other candidate.
01:50:40.000 It's split.
01:50:40.000 It's over the past several elections.
01:50:42.000 But that's because it's a disunified function.
01:50:43.000 If we needed to rally two-thirds of the United States to do something, we could.
01:50:48.000 Like what?
01:50:49.000 I don't know, man.
01:50:50.000 Like the Equal Rights Amendment's probably never gonna happen.
01:50:54.000 So what do you want to do?
01:50:55.000 Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.
01:50:56.000 Let's do it.
01:50:56.000 No one would agree with that.
01:50:58.000 No state would agree with that.
01:50:59.000 Why would you say that?
01:51:01.000 Because the corrupt political parties are running the show.
01:51:03.000 Join me, Tim.
01:51:04.000 It's the Uniparty, and they're not going to support stuff like that.
01:51:08.000 We've got two distinct cultures.
01:51:10.000 You could have conservatives say the rights of free speech should exist on digital platforms as well, or Internet Bill of Rights.
01:51:18.000 And the left is going to go, but my private company is allowed to do what they want, because they're weird neocons now, I guess.
01:51:24.000 So, we're at a point where there's two distinct cultures.
01:51:28.000 This is the important thing when people talk about multiculturalism.
01:51:31.000 You can have these various cultures all under this one umbrella of the Constitution and free speech and individual liberties and stuff, but when you have one culture that says, the government is allowed to shut down your life, so be it the crown, and the other side's saying, come and take it, they clearly don't agree, and it's a recipe for disaster.
01:51:50.000 And that's where we're heading right now.
01:51:51.000 I'm going to be explosively aggro, but that's because I have to pee, so I'll be right back.
01:51:55.000 Okay.
01:51:55.000 Well, we should do super chats anyway.
01:51:58.000 I'm not your buddy, guy.
01:52:00.000 Says, if America allowed this election, allows this election with everything that's happened, where is the incentive to have integrity anymore?
01:52:07.000 Why don't Republicans just kick out all the Democrat poll watchers and find enough votes to win at 3 a.m.?
01:52:12.000 If allowed, the Republic is dead.
01:52:14.000 Yes.
01:52:15.000 If Pennsylvania, the judge said, so long as an observer is in the building, it counts.
01:52:20.000 Well, then every Republican take note.
01:52:22.000 Precedent has been set.
01:52:23.000 Congratulations.
01:52:24.000 But more importantly, are Trump supporters going to get behind Republicans at this point?
01:52:28.000 I think it's a bad idea.
01:52:29.000 So, you know, maybe it was a period where I was like, wow, it'll be apocalyptic if the Democrats win.
01:52:33.000 Now I'm kind of like, I don't like Purdue or Loeffler.
01:52:37.000 If they're not giving us an America first Trump policy, I don't care if they lose.
01:52:42.000 Do you see that meme that was, uh, someone took a Bernie Sanders tweet about giving people, and they put Trump on it and Trump supporters liked it.
01:52:48.000 It's like, maybe these people like these Bernie supporters should look in the mirror and ask themselves, now that their candidate supports the establishment, are they the baddies?
01:52:57.000 Maybe the Trump supporters agreed with you on a lot of important things about helping American workers and the American people, and you decided that the crony 47-year corrupt guy who was part of the Obama administration and is appointing all the Wall Street lobbyists, you thought he was the right choice?
01:53:13.000 I honestly can't believe that we're at a time when the left would vote out somebody who's bringing troops home from war.
01:53:22.000 This is not the left that I remember.
01:53:25.000 There's a lot of baddies.
01:53:26.000 I feel really old.
01:53:27.000 I mean, we were out there protesting Bush and protesting for free speech and now they're like...
01:53:36.000 I don't know.
01:53:37.000 Nathan B says, Tim, given everything, I honestly think Trump has more information than we do, and we're just waiting for everyone to essentially incriminate themselves.
01:53:47.000 But they've been saying that over and over again.
01:53:50.000 This Friday, Trump's going to make a huge announcement.
01:53:51.000 This is it.
01:53:53.000 It's been this is it every day.
01:53:54.000 And admittedly, it's been, it's over every day as well.
01:53:57.000 So it's like, the left is like, it's over today.
01:53:59.000 And Trump's, you know, right wing people are like, it's coming tomorrow.
01:54:02.000 It's like, okay, you know, well, let me know when it's done.
01:54:06.000 Hey, when you said two-thirds of the states, I think you're thinking of the electors and the governors.
01:54:11.000 I'm thinking of ratifying an amendment to the Constitution.
01:54:13.000 I think about the people in those states.
01:54:16.000 If you want to ratify an amendment to the Constitution, you need two-thirds of the states.
01:54:18.000 We just need two-thirds of the population.
01:54:20.000 No, you need two-thirds of states to vote to it.
01:54:21.000 I mean, screw the people that we think own us, dude.
01:54:24.000 We own them.
01:54:24.000 They work for us.
01:54:25.000 In order to amend the Constitution, two-thirds of the states must vote to ratify the amendment.
01:54:31.000 And what do you need to get someone thrown out?
01:54:32.000 What do you need for a referendum?
01:54:34.000 How many people in the state are needed for a governmental referendum?
01:54:37.000 I have no idea.
01:54:38.000 Depends on the state.
01:54:39.000 Yeah.
01:54:40.000 Two-thirds?
01:54:41.000 Less than two-thirds?
01:54:42.000 Some states are actually commonwealth systems.
01:54:45.000 Some have general assemblies, some have official house of representatives and stuff.
01:54:50.000 They're all different.
01:54:51.000 So the states, through their system and how they run, have to decide, we agree with this officially and certify and stamp, and then when two-thirds do, boom, you get an amendment.
01:55:00.000 But they, the states, those are the people in the states.
01:55:05.000 Yeah.
01:55:05.000 So if you can get those people to agree with you, then we can move.
01:55:09.000 In different states.
01:55:10.000 Yeah.
01:55:10.000 And you need two thirds.
01:55:11.000 Yeah.
01:55:11.000 And if their government doesn't agree with them, then throw the government out and put somebody in that does.
01:55:15.000 So when you have California, which is two thirds, you know, it's, yeah, it's two thirds Democrat.
01:55:20.000 You're not going to get them to agree to a conservative amendment.
01:55:23.000 Then throw them out.
01:55:24.000 If you've got enough conservative people.
01:55:25.000 You don't.
01:55:26.000 It's two, it's two thirds Democrat.
01:55:27.000 Then forget about California.
01:55:29.000 Right, so then when you go through all the states, we have right now 29 Republican and 21 Democrat.
01:55:34.000 Not enough to change the Constitution.
01:55:35.000 I don't need Republicans or Democrats, man.
01:55:37.000 It's not a partisan thing.
01:55:39.000 Yeah, it is.
01:55:40.000 The Federal Reserve's screwing all of us.
01:55:41.000 It doesn't matter.
01:55:42.000 You're right, it's not a Democrat-Republican.
01:55:44.000 They're a uniparty, and they function for each other as the establishment to stay in power.
01:55:48.000 That's the problem.
01:55:49.000 MAGA party.
01:55:50.000 Trump supporters need to form their own party and take after the Republicans.
01:55:53.000 America First Party.
01:55:54.000 America First Party.
01:55:55.000 Yeah.
01:55:56.000 Storm Huffman says, I'll watch this later, but I wanted to ask Tim if he has, if he has a locals.com.
01:56:01.000 There's a Timcast page with no content.
01:56:02.000 I'd love to see it flourish.
01:56:03.000 Keep up the great work.
01:56:04.000 I do not, but we are going to be launching a new website with members only content and you know, like hangout stuff and discord type posting and photos and whatever.
01:56:14.000 We're going to be working on a vlog.
01:56:15.000 So that's coming soon.
01:56:17.000 It's being built right now.
01:56:19.000 And if you, you know, once it's live, it'll be at TimCast.com and then you can go and hang out and it'll be, you know, exclusive content for members and stuff like that and merchandise and all that fun stuff.
01:56:27.000 There's going to be a great scene of Alex Jones raiding my RV.
01:56:31.000 Yeah, we filmed, uh, we filmed Alex Jones, Luke Rutkowski, Rude Awakening.
01:56:34.000 They hadn't seen each other in a long time.
01:56:36.000 I was taking a nap and you let the gorilla into my RV.
01:56:41.000 Yes.
01:56:41.000 It was awkward.
01:56:42.000 It was hilarious.
01:56:43.000 It was weird.
01:56:43.000 It was really funny.
01:56:44.000 We'll be in the vlog.
01:56:45.000 So there's a lot of stuff like that too.
01:56:47.000 When we have guests come, we usually hang out with people for a little bit and we play games and stuff.
01:56:50.000 So there's going to be a lot of vlog content that will be behind the scenes for members.
01:56:53.000 So that's cool.
01:56:54.000 A lot of e-drama.
01:56:56.000 The Civic Nationalist says, Tim, I warned you about your country, about becoming Weimar Germany, and now you are going to have three to five years of lefty attacks, then a rise of right-wing attacks.
01:57:06.000 It's not too long to rejoin the Commonwealth, God save the Queen.
01:57:09.000 Uh-huh.
01:57:09.000 Uh-huh.
01:57:10.000 I gotta tell you, let me tell you something really interesting.
01:57:13.000 I made this point when the alternate electors cast their votes, right?
01:57:18.000 So these are unofficial as far as anybody in the federal government cares.
01:57:24.000 What gave the Founding Fathers the authority to declare independence?
01:57:28.000 Quite literally nothing.
01:57:29.000 A bunch of guns, the French government.
01:57:31.000 Yes, exactly.
01:57:33.000 Guns and more guns from the French government.
01:57:35.000 Yeah.
01:57:36.000 So it was interesting when I was reading about the signing of the Declaration of Independence, there was one thing I was reading where they made a point that in many of these states, the people in the Continental Congress were appointed or elected in very strange ad hoc ways that did not represent their states.
01:57:54.000 Like, a lot of these states, they were loyal to the Crown.
01:57:57.000 So all of a sudden, some dude is like, well, a bunch of people in my town and in various parts have agreed that I should represent them to the Continental Congress, and we're going to declare independence.
01:58:06.000 And you know what the opinion of the Crown was?
01:58:09.000 By what authority do you, non-parliamentarians, non-lords, have to assert any legal claim?
01:58:17.000 At all.
01:58:18.000 You're not representative.
01:58:20.000 No such government exists.
01:58:21.000 They say, we're the representatives of an American nation.
01:58:23.000 There's no nation.
01:58:24.000 You have no authority.
01:58:25.000 Something interesting happened, though.
01:58:27.000 It was a parliamentary vote.
01:58:28.000 I forgot what it was called, but it said that American ships were to be considered enemy vessels.
01:58:33.000 And that's when the Founding Fathers were like, they said it, not us.
01:58:36.000 They said our vessels are American vessels and enemies, therefore.
01:58:41.000 So the thing is, if there was no legal authority under the Crown for these individuals to claim their right to declare independence, then if I see a bunch of electors in a state, state legislatures, actual elected representatives, saying, we hereby vote, I'm like, okay, well you can claim they have no authority, but authority is built upon the confidence of the people.
01:58:59.000 So if something happens and people, like Trump supporters, 74 million, say, these are the real electors because we say so, it's all about what you believe to be true.
01:59:07.000 It doesn't matter if there's some system and official seal.
01:59:10.000 If they have an official seal too, I tell you this, if a guy woke up, he came out of a cave, he had been asleep for 700 years, and then two people came up and said, I'm the official government, here's the seal from the Democrats, and someone said, I'm the official government, here's the seal from the Republicans, he's gonna be like, I don't know.
01:59:23.000 I don't know who is in charge.
01:59:26.000 I'm not sure how to word this without getting in trouble.
01:59:29.000 But I think, I mean, Brett, my boyfriend, actually brought this up, but if people genuinely believe that the election was stolen and the government is rigged and the will of the people no longer matters, I don't know how you are not morally obligated to fight.
01:59:52.000 And to have, you know, essentially... Ulysses S. Grant said it.
01:59:57.000 That's what I was quoting before.
01:59:58.000 He says, you know, individuals who feel oppressed by their government have a right to... You're morally obligated, though.
02:00:03.000 If you believe, if you're voting, if you're sending separate electors and you're saying that your state's election was rigged and it was stolen from you...
02:00:12.000 Then how do you just sit down and say, oh, well, better luck, I'll vote harder next time?
02:00:18.000 You're morally obligated to fight at that point, I believe.
02:00:21.000 You know what would be funny?
02:00:22.000 You heard how they called the Republican states who did this seditious?
02:00:25.000 Well, they said 17 Republican states because of the lawsuit.
02:00:28.000 It's actually more, it was 20.
02:00:30.000 And then you have 126 Republican members of the House who are supporting the lawsuit and they were called seditious.
02:00:34.000 It'd be funny if Trump says, because of this sedition from Republican states in these seven states, I'm, you know, like declaring the insurrection act and and and postponing
02:00:44.000 the inauguration and he uses the Republicans to find some support of him as a certification
02:00:49.000 for active rebellion for which he can go in and shut everything down
02:00:52.000 I'm kidding. By the way, it would just be funny if that happened, but
02:00:55.000 That's why I'm saying at the very least there should be an America First Party or you know a constitutionalist party
02:01:02.000 of some sort Or even a broad populist party if we had to I mean, yeah
02:01:08.000 There's a lot of overlap the unity party what?
02:01:11.000 decentralized party if we had a Tulsi Trump You know that
02:01:17.000 We got it that you're putting your life and your property on the line. Basically if you really believe it, it's kind
02:01:23.000 Kind of like saying certain things that violate YouTube's terms of service involving fraud and Donald Trump that could actually get your video pulled.
02:01:33.000 Like that's your property.
02:01:36.000 So if you really believe it, your property, you put it on the line, it may be taken away from you.
02:01:41.000 So it's kind of, I see that.
02:01:42.000 And then he also said, and then you live, you run the risk of living under the rule of your conqueror.
02:01:48.000 I think that the recipe for a thing that you'll probably get TOS violations if we mention is
02:01:55.000 Is having a whole bunch of people with nothing left to lose if you're taking away people's
02:02:01.000 Homes and their ability to see their families and their jobs and their businesses. What else do they have to lose?
02:02:07.000 They're going to stand up eventually.
02:02:08.000 This is what I said.
02:02:09.000 I read the quote from Ulysses S. Grant, and I said, if you're telling people that under an oppressive government they have to risk their life, their property, and their guarantees as a citizen, but then you've taken away their right to life and their right to property, you've made the choice for them already.
02:02:25.000 That's why we're seeing that town in Washington where they're like, GTFO, we're going to do whatever we want.
02:02:29.000 What's the government going to do?
02:02:30.000 Are they going to send in state troopers?
02:02:31.000 Never going to happen.
02:02:32.000 What's the quote when, I think it goes, when the people who want to be left alone get involved?
02:02:38.000 How does it continue?
02:02:39.000 I don't know.
02:02:40.000 I'm not familiar.
02:02:40.000 Sorry.
02:02:41.000 We've got to read more Super Chats though.
02:02:42.000 Interesting premise.
02:02:42.000 Yeah.
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02:02:50.000 We have serious times to come, and the nation needs you now more than ever.
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02:02:56.000 Thank you for your comments.
02:02:57.000 Daniel Maxwell says, to successfully challenge the Electoral College votes, Congress will need To have presented to them a preponderance of the evidence that supports the contesting of the votes from the contested states.
02:03:09.000 I believe they probably will.
02:03:12.000 That's brutal.
02:03:13.000 Mark in a Box says, in GA, due to the lack of testicular fortitude that GOP has, I'm
02:03:18.000 not voting.
02:03:19.000 You are not alone, Cassandra.
02:03:21.000 McConnell may have just encouraged me to vote Dem.
02:03:24.000 Registered Republicans voting Dem hurts them more than not voting at all.
02:03:34.000 Why not?
02:03:35.000 I'm seeing a lot of accelerationism from Republicans saying, why not?
02:03:39.000 Because then you'll get more regular people forced into the fight.
02:03:42.000 That's what people have always been saying.
02:03:44.000 Shake the system up more and more and more.
02:03:45.000 Yeah.
02:03:49.000 Free men die free says the DNC GOP is one big party.
02:03:52.000 The Libertarian Party is the only authentic second party at this point.
02:03:56.000 McConnell stabbing you should be your wake up.
02:03:58.000 Repubs owe Libertarians after Ron Paul being cheated.
02:04:02.000 Yeah, Ron Paul would have been a way better president than anybody we've had in the past couple decades.
02:04:05.000 Yeah.
02:04:06.000 Libertarian Party is a joke, though.
02:04:07.000 Yeah, it's very cringy.
02:04:10.000 Wayne's DIY Garage says, regarding Green Deal, I believe Cali wants to outlaw cows because dairy require a lot of H2O that could go to LA.
02:04:19.000 Articles about methane heating up the atmosphere.
02:04:21.000 I feel they want to blame the farmer, not the cities.
02:04:25.000 Without saying they want to take the water.
02:04:27.000 It'll be really funny when the Green New Deal like something happens and they're like no more farting cows and stuff and then people are like we're hungry and there's no food.
02:04:34.000 I wouldn't be surprised though.
02:04:36.000 Ziptie says, Tim is it possible given the uptick in violent clashes breaking out across the country that we have entered the Bleeding Kansas stage?
02:04:44.000 I don't know.
02:04:44.000 What is that?
02:04:44.000 Do you guys know what that is?
02:04:45.000 Nope.
02:04:46.000 Bleeding Kansas?
02:04:46.000 That sounds like a Civil War thing.
02:04:48.000 Probably.
02:04:49.000 You want to Google it?
02:04:49.000 Bleeding Kansas.
02:04:50.000 Yeah.
02:04:53.000 Ryan Brown says, stop misleading people about Oath Keepers.
02:04:56.000 They are not a militia and never have been.
02:04:58.000 They have current military members.
02:04:59.000 Correct yourself.
02:05:00.000 Well, there you go.
02:05:01.000 It's just Oath Keepers are listed everywhere as a militia.
02:05:04.000 So I don't know how to describe it.
02:05:06.000 And as far as I can tell, I've had Oath Keepers actually say that was correct.
02:05:11.000 So whatever.
02:05:12.000 The Bleeding Kansas, Bloody Kansas, or Border War was a series of violent civil confrontations in Kansas Territory, United States, between 1854 and 1859.
02:05:22.000 Oh, my battery died on my camera.
02:05:23.000 Can you still hear me?
02:05:24.000 Yeah, we can hear you.
02:05:25.000 Listen to this!
02:05:26.000 Yeah, it was early on, 1854 to 1859, and emerged from political ideological debate over the legality of slavery in the proposed state of Kansas.
02:05:37.000 I'm gonna plug that back in.
02:05:39.000 Son Cormac says, Ian 2024.
02:05:42.000 No.
02:05:43.000 It was based on what you said about those states.
02:05:45.000 It's the battery.
02:05:46.000 We never, we gotta plug the... Yeah, we unplugged the camera.
02:05:49.000 Sorry guys.
02:05:50.000 We moved everything.
02:05:52.000 Ian saying those those that that horrible phrase.
02:05:55.000 No, it's the right thing.
02:05:57.000 No, no.
02:05:58.000 Luke Cedar says the answer to political parties becoming corrupt is not more political parties.
02:06:04.000 The answer should actually be the opposite.
02:06:06.000 I think we should outlaw state sponsorship of parties, no federal funds, no parties on the ballot.
02:06:10.000 I'm not opposed to that.
02:06:12.000 I like that.
02:06:12.000 Sounds like a good idea maybe.
02:06:13.000 It might be a free speech issue, but you know what?
02:06:16.000 You can have your political party, you just can't get funding, and it's not going to be
02:06:20.000 on the ballot for a political party.
02:06:21.000 I like that.
02:06:22.000 Then people look at the ballot and they see names.
02:06:23.000 No parties.
02:06:24.000 That's a good point.
02:06:26.000 It's kind of crazy that people look and they say, oh, that's a Democrat?
02:06:28.000 Check.
02:06:29.000 Why don't we just get rid of parties off ballots?
02:06:31.000 That solves a lot of the problem.
02:06:32.000 Yeah, there was a satanic, uh... Yes.
02:06:35.000 Anarchist... Transwoman.
02:06:37.000 Transwoman that was elected just like that.
02:06:39.000 As a Republican sheriff.
02:06:40.000 As a Republican, because no one even looked into her.
02:06:42.000 They just saw Republicans.
02:06:43.000 Well, it was a Republican primary.
02:06:44.000 Yes.
02:06:44.000 Yeah.
02:06:45.000 In New Hampshire.
02:06:46.000 I think that works back in, Lydia.
02:06:47.000 Okay.
02:06:48.000 Let me know if you see it.
02:06:49.000 Who was talking about me in Super Chat?
02:06:51.000 What'd they say?
02:06:52.000 They said, Ian 2024.
02:06:53.000 You guys want to do something?
02:06:55.000 Because you made comments about white states.
02:06:57.000 Yes.
02:06:57.000 They're making a joke.
02:06:58.000 Oh, no.
02:07:01.000 No.
02:07:03.000 Yep.
02:07:05.000 Exidy Interactive says, Luke, I preached that.
02:07:06.000 That is how the nation was designed.
02:07:08.000 California can be socialist, Texas capitalist.
02:07:10.000 One defense.
02:07:11.000 People are allowed to move between.
02:07:12.000 Decentralization.
02:07:14.000 Yeah.
02:07:17.000 Evan03Grime says, first time superchatter for Mississippi.
02:07:19.000 Red states would be the third world country?
02:07:22.000 We have all the farmland, hunting land, and the gulf coast.
02:07:25.000 Conservatism is all about independence.
02:07:27.000 Harumph!
02:07:27.000 Yes.
02:07:29.000 You go to a conservative, and he's a guy who lives in the rural area, and he hunts, and he is very isolated from big cities.
02:07:37.000 He's gonna be like, and?
02:07:38.000 Like, you're gonna have to fend for yourself and hunt your own food, but yeah, I did that last night.
02:07:42.000 And?
02:07:43.000 What am I complaining about?
02:07:44.000 My neighbor has like 60 gallons of apple cider.
02:07:47.000 That's amazing.
02:07:49.000 I'm like, I'm coming over.
02:07:50.000 We here are almost entirely off the grid.
02:07:53.000 Almost entirely.
02:07:55.000 But, even, like, getting internet, satellite, satellite's actually really improving, no joke.
02:08:00.000 Like, the other day when the internet cut out, we switched to satellite, and it, it sometimes is shaky, but we've actually been able to get, you know, high def streams.
02:08:09.000 The satellite's 5 megabits up.
02:08:11.000 Like, kind of the bare minimum to get a good stream out, but, it's totally doable.
02:08:16.000 Let's see.
02:08:17.000 Ismail Thompson says, Cassandra is speaking my language.
02:08:20.000 The creation of the Republic will be the proudest day of my life, probably because I'm Texan.
02:08:24.000 Well, there you go.
02:08:27.000 Let's see what else we got here.
02:08:28.000 Matthew Reckham, thanks for that big ol' super chat, appreciate it.
02:08:31.000 Archimedes says, so it's okay for CA to tell the country you aren't allowed guns, but Texas can't bring up concerns on the election?
02:08:38.000 I think they can.
02:08:39.000 I think they absolutely should.
02:08:41.000 Yeah, one of the issues is, we have a constitution, right?
02:08:43.000 So if California says we don't allow guns, then is it incumbent upon the other states to, like, invade California to enforce the constitution?
02:08:52.000 Who?
02:08:52.000 I don't know.
02:08:53.000 No.
02:08:54.000 Well, hold on, hold on.
02:08:56.000 Ulysses S. Grant, in that writing, he made a really good point.
02:08:59.000 He said certain- I'll paraphrase it.
02:09:01.000 The original 13 colonies could have left at any time.
02:09:03.000 They had an agreement to come together because of the revolution.
02:09:06.000 But with the ratification of the Constitution among the 13 colonies, everything changed.
02:09:11.000 These colonies paid through blood and treasure to get new states into the Union.
02:09:16.000 So there's almost essentially a debt.
02:09:18.000 It's a contract.
02:09:19.000 You want to be in the union?
02:09:20.000 You want access to our funds and our defense?
02:09:22.000 We've paid for that with blood and treasure.
02:09:25.000 So now you can't leave.
02:09:27.000 If we have a contract between all these different states about their agreement to enter, and the resources we paid to get them in, And they say, but you know that founding document contract I agreed to to join?
02:09:38.000 I'm gonna give it a big ol' middle finger.
02:09:39.000 Interesting.
02:09:40.000 Then we say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
02:09:41.000 We have an agreement.
02:09:43.000 You came into this country as a state.
02:09:45.000 You can't now disregard the agreement that we have because we paid for this.
02:09:49.000 It would be like breaking a contract.
02:09:51.000 I say, I want to, uh, you know, work with you, Ian, and then you say, okay, I'll pay you a thousand bucks up front to work with my- for my company, and then I go, you know what?
02:10:02.000 Actually, I'm not gonna abide by the rules of our actual contract.
02:10:05.000 I'm gonna do my own thing.
02:10:06.000 You're gonna be like, dude, I paid you.
02:10:08.000 You can't do that.
02:10:08.000 Later, I'm leaving.
02:10:09.000 No, you can't leave.
02:10:10.000 Give me my money.
02:10:10.000 You owe me.
02:10:12.000 So I think if these states want to break the rules, but we had to pay, I'd defer to Ulysses S. Grant, and we should enforce the Constitution somehow.
02:10:19.000 That's a thought.
02:10:19.000 Yep.
02:10:20.000 I mean, we kind of do, right?
02:10:21.000 The Supreme Court will say you're in violation of the First Amendment, and then marshals or whatever, you know, happen to go in.
02:10:27.000 But you look at what Cuomo is doing right now.
02:10:29.000 He bans churches.
02:10:30.000 What happens?
02:10:30.000 Supreme Court says you can't do it.
02:10:31.000 He goes, fine, whatever.
02:10:32.000 I'll do a new executive order and do it anyway.
02:10:34.000 You look at Gretchen Whitmer.
02:10:36.000 Michigan said you can't do these things.
02:10:38.000 He goes, well, I can do it anyway, and I'll use a different law if I have to.
02:10:41.000 Just like, if you're told you can't do something, you can't just look at a different piece of paper and be like, that says I can do it now.
02:10:46.000 It's like, no, it was already ruled against you.
02:10:50.000 You could have a joint defense pact, saying if we get an attack, we'll work together.
02:10:53.000 That's it.
02:10:54.000 Who owns, uh, who own and runs the military? If we divide, then I feel it will weaken the
02:10:58.000 country as a whole and make us vulnerable to other countries taking over our country.
02:11:02.000 Then we lose anyways. You could have a joint defense pact saying if we get an attack,
02:11:06.000 we'll work together. That's it. But then who's, who's, who's the commander for the military?
02:11:11.000 Um, for like, who's, who's in charge of the military?
02:11:14.000 You switch roles.
02:11:15.000 Every four years, it's one particular state.
02:11:18.000 The next four years, it's another one.
02:11:19.000 No, it won't work.
02:11:20.000 Because if you have two different countries, two different interests, and then there's a battle over water rights, whoever's in charge of the military is gonna oppress the one who doesn't have access.
02:11:28.000 Well, each state would have their own military, and each state would have their own kind of national guard, so... It'd be the same as how we handle Canada.
02:11:35.000 Yeah.
02:11:36.000 Like, if North America was getting attacked, we would work with Canada, and we would defend North America.
02:11:42.000 Exactly.
02:11:42.000 Same thing.
02:11:43.000 But what happens if, you know, Canada starts encroaching on American territory?
02:11:48.000 Like, it doesn't really happen, but... Yeah, but between the states, it's different.
02:11:51.000 Then we point and make fun of Trudeau's socks.
02:11:53.000 Like, so listen... And cry and run away.
02:11:56.000 If there was a peaceful divorce, there are some businesses and properties that cross state lines.
02:12:00.000 You know, people who might own property like on one plot and then another plot in a different state or something, or bodies of water.
02:12:06.000 What happens if someone in Mississippi is like, they're polluting our water in the other country?
02:12:10.000 Whoever has the military then will enforce it.
02:12:12.000 And if you don't, they're going to be like, we don't care.
02:12:14.000 It's our water, not yours.
02:12:16.000 Screw off.
02:12:18.000 Ascendant Media says we need to establish a regional level of governance between state and federal.
02:12:23.000 I was thinking about that for a long time, you know?
02:12:26.000 Like, what if we had another level of government?
02:12:28.000 Like, Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Northwest, Southwest.
02:12:33.000 And then they had, like, regional... The reason I was thinking about that is because we're supposed to have, like, 30,000 to 50,000 people per congressman.
02:12:40.000 Instead, we have 750,000.
02:12:40.000 Because they're like, we just can't keep making it bigger, I guess, but population is expanding.
02:12:45.000 Okay.
02:12:45.000 What if we created another level?
02:12:47.000 Regional governance.
02:12:49.000 Maybe not an answer.
02:12:50.000 I don't know.
02:12:50.000 Maybe more government isn't the solution.
02:12:52.000 I think that having like nine Supreme Court judges ruling over the entire thing is not, it's too few people for the amount of people they're trying to represent.
02:13:02.000 Oh, that's an argument for packing the courts, and if that happens, then we are definitely going to end up seeing this.
02:13:09.000 The reason why we shouldn't change Supreme Court is because it would turn justices into essentially popular elected officials again, like any other position, but they would just have more power than a senator, so it makes no sense.
02:13:23.000 Limiting the number and having it be based on who the president is and the Senate is a check on how someone gets into the Supreme Court.
02:13:30.000 But why would like a northeastern court judge get to decide what happens in the southwest?
02:13:35.000 What do you mean they wouldn't?
02:13:36.000 Yeah, like the judges, they preside over the entire country.
02:13:39.000 The circuits.
02:13:40.000 In the southwest.
02:13:41.000 The Supreme Court is all of the justices from all the different circuits coming together and then agreeing or disagreeing.
02:13:47.000 But it's only like nine people.
02:13:49.000 Right, because we have 13 circuits, but two are like, you know, it's like D.C.
02:13:52.000 and then like the federal jurisdiction of some sort.
02:13:54.000 But these circuits don't like appoint a judge.
02:13:57.000 The president picks a random person that... And the president has to have the Senate behind him.
02:14:02.000 So if the Senate does not agree with the president, then nothing changes in the Supreme Court.
02:14:07.000 And we've actually had periods where we had like five Supreme Court justices because of the dispute between senators and the president.
02:14:14.000 Only when the president and the Senate align do you get new justices.
02:14:19.000 Or, if the Democrats want to change the rules.
02:14:21.000 How do the judges, like, relate to the circuit?
02:14:25.000 Of the 13 circuits.
02:14:26.000 The circuits are different regions, right?
02:14:28.000 So, like, uh, what's the first circuit?
02:14:30.000 Like, Maine, I think?
02:14:31.000 So, that judge is the emergency appellate judge for that area.
02:14:35.000 So he has to pick someone from that area to be that circuit?
02:14:39.000 No.
02:14:39.000 Yeah, he can pick anyone from, someone from Texas and then make them the Maine judge?
02:14:43.000 Well, they get their assignments.
02:14:45.000 From who?
02:14:47.000 I don't know.
02:14:48.000 I think the Supreme Court, they come together and they decide their assignments for where they go.
02:14:53.000 It might be presidential assignment.
02:14:55.000 I'm not sure.
02:14:55.000 But right now, I think the justices basically are in charge of the circuits where they were federal judges.
02:15:02.000 So, I guess, theoretically, you could take a ran- You could appoint anybody to the Supreme Court.
02:15:06.000 Like, that's why they said, make, you know, uh, uh, Joe Biden should choose, uh, or, you know, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton would choose Obama if she- if- if she won or whatever.
02:15:14.000 Because you could pick anybody.
02:15:16.000 The point of the nomination process is that the President decides who should be a judge, and the Supreme Court- I'm sorry, the, uh, Senate confirms to make sure it's not some, like, random dude who's like, you know, like a bus driver or something who has no idea what he's doing.
02:15:27.000 But there has to be that alignment, you know?
02:15:31.000 L. Jaysus says, I don't think the gold standard is enough, but we have other medals to back the dollar with.
02:15:36.000 JFK tried to back the dollar with silver in his day.
02:15:39.000 Interesting.
02:15:40.000 He is, uh, he was, you know, not alive after a certain point.
02:15:43.000 The silverbacks, I still remember them.
02:15:44.000 Some $5 bills actually still have that on them.
02:15:47.000 But that's from way back in the day.
02:15:48.000 The silver certificates?
02:15:49.000 Yes.
02:15:50.000 Yeah, that was before we got out of the gold standard.
02:15:51.000 But then there was also, yeah, special JFK, I think, $5 notes as well.
02:15:55.000 Interesting.
02:15:56.000 Green Third Eye says, in my opinion, Assange and Snowden both should rot in Gitmo.
02:16:00.000 There isn't one law-abiding citizen that has benefited from the information they leaked.
02:16:05.000 Putin and Xi Jinping, however, have benefited immensely.
02:16:08.000 Wow, you have some idiotic super chatters.
02:16:11.000 What absolute morons.
02:16:12.000 Julian Assange didn't break any laws.
02:16:16.000 So why should he go to prison?
02:16:17.000 And there's been plenty of Americans who benefited, including President Donald Trump.
02:16:21.000 Oh, absolutely.
02:16:22.000 Trump won partly because of this.
02:16:24.000 And also the family of the people who were killed in collateral murder, for instance.
02:16:28.000 And all the Americans who had a chance to see how the political process actually works.
02:16:34.000 Those Bernie bros that got screwed.
02:16:36.000 I'm sure that they appreciated it.
02:16:38.000 Hillary's emails, wasn't that all Wikileaks?
02:16:40.000 Yeah, the DNC leaks, the DCCC.
02:16:42.000 No, no, no.
02:16:42.000 DCCC wasn't Wikileaks, was it?
02:16:44.000 It was Guccifer.
02:16:46.000 Yeah.
02:16:47.000 Jason Schmitt says, Read, read, 50 bucks in response to Divorce of the Nation.
02:16:52.000 All of his work has been scrubbed from most of the mainstream podcasts, but John, Mark, Kurt, Doolittle have given ideas on how to successfully disentangle the nation.
02:16:59.000 Please get the word out.
02:17:00.000 Well, I don't know about all that, but I'll read you Super Chat.
02:17:03.000 Paul Sem says, Cassandra is one of the coolest guests you guys have on your show.
02:17:08.000 She is chill and she is so passionate with what she believes.
02:17:11.000 She's a fun follow on Twitter as well because of the fights she picks.
02:17:14.000 Yes, that's true.
02:17:15.000 You pick a lot of fights.
02:17:16.000 I do.
02:17:17.000 It's what Twitter is for.
02:17:18.000 It makes it so fun.
02:17:20.000 Thomas Prendergast says, Hey Tim, I think you're looking at the divorce in an incorrect way.
02:17:26.000 Stop thinking on red state, blue state, and start thinking about urban vs. rural.
02:17:30.000 Allow them to create a democratic alliance of city-states, and we keep our republic.
02:17:34.000 But then those city-states would just collapse overnight because they have no resources.
02:17:38.000 I think it's funny that- Then we could have the Hunger Games and let one of them out per year.
02:17:44.000 I'm a little demented.
02:17:45.000 The bridges have all been shut off!
02:17:47.000 You mentioned creating, like, new rural land, and I thought of the word sub-rural.
02:17:51.000 Like, we have suburban, you know, these like... Sub-rural?
02:17:54.000 Yeah, sub-rural areas.
02:17:55.000 No, they all need to stay out of the rural areas.
02:17:58.000 You city dwellers, stay.
02:18:00.000 City folk.
02:18:02.000 Tyler Mills says, I used to be a neocon prior to Assange.
02:18:05.000 Collateral Murder was the video that red-pilled me on the political realm.
02:18:08.000 That combined with Ron Paul's farewell speech to Congress.
02:18:11.000 Ron Paul was legit- is legit.
02:18:13.000 And Rand Paul, I like him too.
02:18:15.000 Abe says, why would the- whoop, it just jumped on me.
02:18:18.000 How you gonna play me like that, YouTube?
02:18:21.000 Ryu Kirito says, I like how Tim Pool sounds at the character Edgar, farmer, skin suit alien, and men in black when imitating Mitch McConnell.
02:18:28.000 That's kind of the point.
02:18:30.000 SUGAR WATER!
02:18:31.000 Also, Cas should check out Viva Frey's livestream on Sunday with Robert Barnes.
02:18:35.000 I think she'd like it.
02:18:37.000 Well, we'll make a note.
02:18:39.000 Let's see.
02:18:41.000 Layla Zero says you should look up the quote of Benjamin Gates, Nicolas Cage, and National Treasure reading the portion of the Declaration of Independence.
02:18:48.000 It states man's right and responsibility to stand against tyranny.
02:18:52.000 National Treasure is a fun movie.
02:18:54.000 The chief has spoken, says collateral murder is a crap story.
02:18:57.000 That was my unit on the ground.
02:18:59.000 Media used a story from one dishonorable soldier, McCord, who has been discredited by all other soldiers there.
02:19:05.000 Media only pushed one story and hid all the others.
02:19:08.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed one story and hid all the others.
02:19:11.000 But, uh, I mean there's a video of them killing a bunch of people.
02:19:15.000 Is it, you know?
02:19:18.000 SnoopsNet says, Tim, the difference between free speech and flying, the ISIS and BLM flags, is the groups those flags have come to represent imply the threat of violence against those around them.
02:19:28.000 It's not free speech, it's territory marking.
02:19:31.000 I agree.
02:19:31.000 I think it's like gang signs.
02:19:33.000 Honestly, I am the most pro-free speech person generally, but I see them as actual threats.
02:19:42.000 Those flags represent you wanting to take away my right to free speech and my safety and the safety of the community that it's in.
02:19:52.000 They say the same thing about the American flag and about the original 13 Colony flag and the Gadsden flag.
02:19:58.000 So then maybe there's conflict coming because nobody agrees.
02:20:01.000 Yeah.
02:20:01.000 And I am down.
02:20:04.000 I can't even say what I actually think because I will be censored off of all of social media.
02:20:10.000 Then I think people can assume what you really mean.
02:20:12.000 I think that they can assume, yeah.
02:20:14.000 I think we want to live in peace, and we want to be able to take care of our families, but I think the easiest way to put it is, you know, I've been reading about the American Revolution, I've been reading about the Civil War, and I love that quote from the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson, where he's, I think they're in South Carolina, and they vote to go to war.
02:20:36.000 And he says, mark my words, this will not be fought on some faraway battlefield.
02:20:42.000 It'll be fought in our homes, in our towns.
02:20:44.000 Our children will learn of it with their own eyes.
02:20:46.000 And I'm like, that's what a lot of people don't realize.
02:20:49.000 So, I say that to Antifa.
02:20:52.000 Because you know what, Joe Rogan, there's a quote from Joe Rogan, it's brilliant.
02:20:55.000 He says, how many veterans do we have in this country?
02:20:57.000 Like millions?
02:20:58.000 These are guys who actually know what war is like and know what's gonna happen.
02:21:01.000 And these are the people who are saying, No, you don't want this.
02:21:04.000 Plus, dude, they'll be like strapping bombs to drones and flying them through your bedroom window.
02:21:08.000 It's just terror.
02:21:09.000 You do not want that.
02:21:11.000 Yeah, the level of technology at this point is going to be nightmarish.
02:21:14.000 But Brogan made a really interesting point that these far leftists like Antifa are smashing away at the floodgates, trying to break them down.
02:21:21.000 And the dudes on the other side, the veterans, the survivalists, the people who actually know what conflict is like and know how to survive, they're waiting, and you do not want that floodgate pouring out.
02:21:31.000 If we had a peaceful divorce right now, that would be the best resolution, but I don't think that's going to happen, and I don't think that we can coexist with people who we find morally reprehensible.
02:21:43.000 I find the left morally disgusting and reprehensible, and they find me morally disgusting and reprehensible.
02:21:49.000 I don't know how you have a cohesive union that way.
02:21:51.000 So instead of fighting, peaceful divorce.
02:21:54.000 That's what I've been saying from the very beginning.
02:21:56.000 And I have to say I covered some conflict in my day and every time I do it, everyone involved regrets it.
02:22:04.000 Everyone.
02:22:05.000 I mean, I'm not advocating for people not to vote in Georgia.
02:22:09.000 I am just saying that I don't care.
02:22:10.000 about packing the court. If Dems have president, Senate, and House, the courts will be packed."
02:22:14.000 Yep. And I'm not advocating for people not to vote in Georgia. I am just saying that I don't care.
02:22:21.000 Well, so my thing is like, did you think the Supreme Court was going to back Trump
02:22:25.000 and his legal challenges? Well, then why do you care? I thought that they would actually.
02:22:30.000 I was surprised.
02:22:31.000 Yeah.
02:22:32.000 Well, it was because even if they didn't, when it came to Texas, the question was whether
02:22:37.000 or not they believe that they are obligated to take up the suits on original jurisdiction
02:22:41.000 between states.
02:22:42.000 Right.
02:22:43.000 And the three Trump appointees were the, were what we need to know.
02:22:47.000 Alito and Thomas agreed we must, the Supreme Court must take these cases.
02:22:52.000 But it was Gorsuch, Gorsuch, how do you pronounce it, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett,
02:22:56.000 we didn't know how they'd rule.
02:22:57.000 And they all said, Nope, we have no obligation to take this case.
02:23:00.000 That's what happens when Trump takes- well, Trump took advice from neocons and snakes and rhinos the whole entire time, and he appointed people like Bolton, he appointed people like Maddox.
02:23:12.000 What do you guys think of Bannon?
02:23:13.000 And then we're supposed to be surprised that the people that he got lifetime appointments on the Supreme Court are
02:23:18.000 not gonna have his back Back, I mean, yep. Did you guys like Steve Bannon? Yeah, I
02:23:23.000 Don't really have an opinion I think he's alright.
02:23:28.000 I like him a lot better than Pompeo or Bolton.
02:23:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:23:33.000 Bolton was like, laughably bad.
02:23:35.000 Like, wow.
02:23:36.000 People kept saying I was anti-Trump because I was like, no, Mattis and Bolton and Gina Haspel and all these people are very bad.
02:23:43.000 Look at how they used to cheer for Bill Barr and now they hate Bill Barr.
02:23:47.000 Trump is always right, to his most fervent supporters.
02:23:51.000 And then anybody who dares oppose him is wrong.
02:23:53.000 They're good, you know.
02:23:53.000 And Trump's the same thing, too.
02:23:55.000 He'll be like, he's a great guy.
02:23:56.000 I love him.
02:23:57.000 He's the best.
02:23:57.000 We're bringing him on.
02:23:58.000 And then the month later when he fires him, he's just terrible.
02:23:59.000 He was the worst.
02:24:00.000 Everybody agrees.
02:24:01.000 Well, Trump should have fired more people, that's for sure.
02:24:05.000 Theron Nett says, Tim, in the Fallout universe, the U.S.
02:24:09.000 created another level of government between the states and federal government called commonwealths and split the U.S.
02:24:14.000 into 13 commonwealths.
02:24:15.000 Interesting.
02:24:16.000 Maybe voting is not the answer.
02:24:18.000 Maybe being responsible for yourself.
02:24:19.000 Maybe taking charge of your own existence and not looking for government to intervene in every little way.
02:24:25.000 support, whatever, vote for not these people I guess man.
02:24:30.000 Maybe voting is not the answer, maybe being responsible for yourself, maybe taking charge
02:24:34.000 of your own existence and not looking for government to intervene in every little way,
02:24:38.000 maybe that will be the way that we can move forward from this in a peaceful resolution
02:24:42.000 without demanding or pushing a gun on anyone.
02:24:45.000 Imagine if.
02:24:46.000 You know, where's Mitch McConnell?
02:24:48.000 Is he Kentucky?
02:24:49.000 Tennessee?
02:24:49.000 Kentucky?
02:24:50.000 Kentucky, yeah.
02:24:51.000 Okay, imagine if the people who were there were like, why would we vote for Mitch McConnell?
02:24:55.000 And they voted for a different Republican.
02:24:57.000 A Republican who actually supported the President.
02:24:59.000 And right now, instead of saying, you know, don't support the President, even symbolically, you got somebody who's like, I think you should at least give Donald Trump your strong recommendation and fight for him, even if it means we go down fighting.
02:25:12.000 Imagine if that's someone they voted for, instead they vote for the turtle guy.
02:25:14.000 You know what?
02:25:15.000 It's because people walk in and they go, um, R or D?
02:25:18.000 Definitely R. Who's the R?
02:25:21.000 Like, like you brought up that the trans Satanist anarchist won the Republican primary because they didn't think twice.
02:25:26.000 They're just like Republican.
02:25:28.000 Yeah, and they wanted to recall their election because of that.
02:25:30.000 Maybe we just take political parties off the ballots.
02:25:32.000 I was just thinking that.
02:25:32.000 You can be in a political party, you can fundraise for your political party, you can do all that normal stuff, but on the ballot no one can see D or R. Just a bunch of names.
02:25:39.000 Just a bunch of names.
02:25:40.000 Or an intelligence test before voting.
02:25:42.000 Yes.
02:25:43.000 I don't agree with that.
02:25:43.000 I'm joking.
02:25:44.000 I think people are allowed to be dumb.
02:25:45.000 I'm being satirical.
02:25:46.000 No, they're allowed to be dumb, but they should not necessarily be allowed to vote if they're dumb.
02:25:51.000 Back in ancient Greece and Rome, I believe it was, they discussed how voting was a very serious responsibility and that it takes years and years to prepare to be able to vote.
02:26:04.000 And then we're just like, here, you want to vote, child?
02:26:07.000 You're 18, kid!
02:26:08.000 Take it away!
02:26:09.000 Now they want 16-year-olds to vote?
02:26:11.000 No.
02:26:11.000 Low-information voters are the lifeblood of the Democratic Party.
02:26:14.000 Yeah.
02:26:15.000 Hands down.
02:26:16.000 Anyway.
02:26:17.000 Can't even drink alcohol yet, but here you go.
02:26:20.000 Decide the fate of our country.
02:26:21.000 Yeah.
02:26:22.000 Or die for it.
02:26:23.000 Yeah.
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02:26:30.000 But, Cassandra, do you want to mention your social media or anything?
02:26:33.000 Um, yeah, I'm on Twitter at Cassandra Rules.
02:26:36.000 I'm on Parler at Cassandra.
02:26:38.000 The Cassandra Rules one's not me.
02:26:40.000 And I write for Gateway Pundit.
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