Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Media Smear Of Trump Is Designed To Shift The News Cycle Off The Antifa Killer

00:00:00.000 This morning, news broke that the guy in Portland who was accused of killing the Trump supporter was caught.

00:00:35.000 I should say that they were trying to catch him.

00:00:36.000 They found out where he was, a warrant had been issued, and when they went to stop him, they say, according to a statement from Bill Barr, he pulled a gun, or he went for a gun, and then he got shot and killed.

00:00:46.000 Now, activists and far leftists are saying something totally different.

00:00:49.000 They said that he was leaving his home when he started getting shot at or something.

00:00:52.000 I kid you not, they actually have this post going around where they're claiming that he was in his car, he went to his car, they started shooting at him so he tried fleeing and then they just, you know, finished him off.

00:01:02.000 And they're actually arguing that it was an execution.

00:01:04.000 This is worrying to me because of course we were going to see the narrative go the other direction.

00:01:08.000 They're now saying the right is defending Kyle Rittenhouse and he was an extremist and their guy was acting in self-defense.

00:01:13.000 I think anyone objectively trying to look at the facts to figure out what's going on would determine that is not the case.

00:01:19.000 But something different happened later in the day.

00:01:21.000 Well, actually, this was last night, but the story picked up this morning. 0.97

00:01:25.000 A new narrative emerged that Donald Trump had called a bunch of World War I soldiers losers and suckers, and it was just cartoonishly bad, in my opinion. 0.97

00:01:34.000 Like, just a caricature of evil. 0.87

00:01:37.000 So then I was thinking about it and I came upon this realization that the goal was to shift the narrative off of what was going on with violent riots, the burning of buildings, and they wanted to change the news cycle because Trump was winning and Joe Biden was desperate.

00:01:52.000 Now, Joe Biden's in front of the cycle and Donald Trump is on the defensive, and this is a big mistake.

00:01:57.000 So we need to have a real conversation about what's going on with corporate media and how they've immediately jumped to attention to give Joe Biden everything he needs.

00:02:06.000 Even Facebook is coming out on the side of the left-wing narrative about mail-in voting.

00:02:09.000 So I decided I gotta bring in somebody who's got a good, you know, good insight into the media.

00:02:14.000 So joining me today is Michael Malice.

00:02:17.000 And you can tell by the very poorly adorned helicopter hat.

00:02:21.000 He must be a smart fella.

00:02:24.000 Not a dunce cap, is it?

00:02:25.000 No, you're right.

00:02:26.000 That's true.

00:02:27.000 And what is the point of the hat?

00:02:30.000 You told me I have to bring a beanie.

00:02:31.000 No, no, no, no.

00:02:32.000 I don't mean for you.

00:02:33.000 I appreciate it.

00:02:33.000 I'm just wondering, like, when did they decide to put propellers on hats and why?

00:02:36.000 It took two of my fans to construct this and there was next day air involved.

00:02:40.000 Wow.

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:41.000 The dear readers don't mess around.

00:02:43.000 Man, I love it.

00:02:45.000 You have to wear it over the headphones because it has a repeller.

00:02:48.000 Thanks for ruining the bit.

00:02:48.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:02:51.000 Sorry, I forgot.

00:02:52.000 Anyway, so we actually have a bunch of stories to talk about.

00:02:55.000 There's a bunch of, you know, typical weird intersectional cult stuff, but a lot of media stuff that's really interesting. 0.96

00:03:01.000 And as silly as this man is showing us to be... He appears to be. 0.98

00:03:07.000 He appears to be.

00:03:08.000 He's actually got... You had a bunch of interesting stuff you were telling us about, like the history of the Atlantic and World War I and stuff.

00:03:15.000 If you want to just, you know, lightly mention something.

00:03:15.000 We'll jump into it.

00:03:15.000 Sure.

00:03:18.000 I don't want you to... Because you mentioned you're going to go off on this huge history lesson.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, there's a lot to unpack behind this story, which I'm sure the writers from the Atlantic are very aware of, even though they would never cop to it publicly.

00:03:28.000 Really?

00:03:29.000 Basically, you're saying like the Atlantic is a bunch of Nazis?

00:03:31.000 No, no, but the Atlantic certainly paved the way for Nazism in very many ways. 0.83

00:03:36.000 Yes, it's very demonstrable and indisputable.

00:03:40.000 Well, let's we'll jump right into it.

00:03:40.000 All right.

00:03:42.000 We got some other stories we might get to. 0.99

00:03:44.000 You know, Joe Biden, what a silly, silly thing. 0.96

00:03:47.000 So if you haven't already, smash that like button and it is your duty to make sure everybody smashes that like button. 0.98

00:03:52.000 How about the show?

00:03:53.000 Do it for Michael's hat.

00:03:55.000 His hat is there to remind you to smash that like button.

00:03:59.000 And hop in the superchats, because around 9.30 or so we'll start taking questions and talking to everybody.

00:04:03.000 We do the show Monday through Friday, live at 8pm.

00:04:05.000 And let's just talk about this first story.

00:04:07.000 Let's jump right in.

00:04:08.000 Most of you have probably seen this, so I'll just give you some quick context.

00:04:11.000 The Atlantic. 1.00

00:04:12.000 Americans who died in war are losers and suckers. 1.00

00:04:12.000 Trump. 1.00

00:04:17.000 Now, for me, I just call complete BS because it's too cartoonishly evil.

00:04:19.000 of service members and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades,

00:04:24.000 multiple sources tell the Atlantic. Now for me, I just call complete BS because it's too

00:04:28.000 cartoonishly evil. Like the writers, whatever the smear is, they didn't do a good job of making

00:04:34.000 something plausible. There's no possibility in my mind that a president wouldn't, or Trump

00:04:39.000 specifically, wouldn't want disabled veterans floating center because they're the best example 1.00

00:04:43.000 of look, they lost, this how much they sacrificed.

00:04:46.000 Take a picture with me.

00:04:47.000 I'm the commander in chief.

00:04:48.000 This is an opportunity for them to look great with the populace. 0.97

00:04:51.000 So that part, I think, is just absolutely ridiculous.

00:04:54.000 Not only that, but didn't at the RNC they had a bunch of wounded vets stand? 0.76

00:04:58.000 At the State of the Union he had that North Korean refugee who had his leg run over by a railroad and he stood up and held his crutch.

00:05:06.000 That was a very powerful image and Trump pointed him and applauded.

00:05:08.000 This is cartoonishly evil.

00:05:10.000 Well, as someone who's an actual comic book supervillain, there's been a comic written about me.

00:05:14.000 This is something that I kind of aspire to, in a sense.

00:05:17.000 But the Atlantic has been a very malignant organization and outlet for over a century at this point.

00:05:24.000 So a lot of people don't realize the history of the Atlantic.

00:05:28.000 Should I get into it now?

00:05:29.000 Let's do one more paragraph.

00:05:32.000 So, they go on to say that Trump, in the first paragraph they say, Trump cancelled a visit to the Ayn Marn American Cemetery in Paris.

00:05:39.000 He blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying the helicopter couldn't fly.

00:05:43.000 They go on to say, neither claim was true.

00:05:45.000 Now, I gotta point out, Jason Leopold from BuzzFeed has the FOIA request from the Navy.

00:05:49.000 They've got numerous communications saying, the ceiling's too low, visibility's too low, we're not gonna be able to do this.

00:05:54.000 And John Bolton, his memoir, also independently described this event, and John Bolton, his memoir, was out to, at the very least, not be flattering to Trump, and he describes the circumstance of this event exactly as President Trump later claimed the circumstances were.

00:06:07.000 So you have independent, like six months ago, three months ago, corroboration of Trump's version of the events.

00:06:13.000 And you would think, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you would think they would mention Bolton's version of it.

00:06:18.000 Unless the intention was to be so cartoonishly bad, every conservative would be like, it's so obviously fake that it's, you know, they're dangling keys in front of a baby and the conservatives ran right to it and the narrative of the violent riots and all the chaos in the streets and the Antifa killer is gone.

00:06:33.000 Yeah, there's an enormous wing of conservatism, which I have very mixed feelings about, whose entire modus operandi is freaking out over whatever it is the liberals are doing today.

00:06:44.000 And it does an enormous disservice because, you know, like you're saying, it's a very easy bait-and-switch.

00:06:49.000 Like, which of these two things are, in the grand scheme of things, a bigger issue?

00:06:53.000 That people are getting killed by the police, rightly or wrongly?

00:06:56.000 That chaos is descending, rightly or wrongly?

00:06:59.000 Or the president, two years ago, said a nasty Nasty comment.

00:07:02.000 He said naughty words.

00:07:03.000 In the context of this presidency where, I mean, the number of nasty comments that he said has been innumerable and will be in history books one day, hopefully.

00:07:11.000 And this is probably, like, these are maybe actually not even the worst things he's ever said.

00:07:15.000 I mean, what they did very cleverly in this is that everyone very vividly remembers in 2015 when he was referring to John McCain.

00:07:15.000 Of course.

00:07:23.000 I was on Gutfeld's show that day referring to John McCain's military service and he's like, eh, I like the ones who didn't get captured.

00:07:29.000 And everyone thought, OK, this is the end of the Trump.

00:07:29.000 Right.

00:07:32.000 But because of that, it planted the seed in a lot of people's minds that Trump would call a service member a loser. 0.85

00:07:32.000 Right. 0.85

00:07:38.000 Right.

00:07:39.000 I mean, more than they hate making fun, tongue in cheek of military service, and it cost

00:07:43.000 him absolutely nothing other than perhaps an invite to John McCain's funeral.

00:07:47.000 Right.

00:07:48.000 Right.

00:07:49.000 But because of that, it planted the seed in a lot of people's minds that Trump would call 0.95

00:07:53.000 a service member a loser. 0.91

00:07:54.000 Right. 0.98

00:07:55.000 Because it's plausible.

00:07:57.000 I mean, I don't—I would disagree a little bit.

00:08:00.000 I would say some people have heard the story where he called John McCain a loser and said other people weren't captured.

00:08:06.000 If they're not paying attention, they hear this, and a lot of them are probably like, I can't believe he would say—wow.

00:08:11.000 Like, I can't believe it in the sense that they believe it, you know what I mean?

00:08:13.000 Right.

00:08:14.000 Right.

00:08:14.000 me I look at this and I'm like, oh come on man.

00:08:16.000 Everything, Trump has been campaigning since he got elected.

00:08:19.000 He got elected in 2016 and then he kept having rallies nonstop.

00:08:22.000 He's been in full campaign mode and like you mentioned, he's had wounded vets at his rallies. 0.98

00:08:26.000 This is cartoonishly, it's ridiculous.

00:08:31.000 But there's one more thing I want to point out and then we can hear about what's up with 0.57

00:08:34.000 this and what, you know, the Atlantic.

00:08:36.000 They mentioned that Trump said he didn't understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the allies, and that, you know, he asked, who were the good guys?

00:08:46.000 You know what I find wrong with that is, who were the good guys?

00:08:49.000 Us?

00:08:50.000 No, no, but see, this is why I think that's something he could have said.

00:08:53.000 If he meant who were the good guys, Germany or England, or Italy or Germany, It was not a war of good versus evil.

00:08:59.000 It was a war of, like, kings versus shahs and versus kaisers. 0.99

00:09:05.000 It's like, why are we involved here?

00:09:06.000 And it's a question that has never been answered to our satisfaction to this day.

00:09:10.000 So yeah, that's a very fair question.

00:09:13.000 This isn't a clear-cut good guys versus bad guys.

00:09:15.000 This is, why are we there to begin with?

00:09:18.000 Because of the Atlantic.

00:09:20.000 Because of the Atlantic?

00:09:20.000 Because of the Atlantic, yes.

00:09:21.000 Really?

00:09:22.000 So this whole story goes full circle?

00:09:23.000 Yes!

00:09:24.000 Let's go, let's do it.

00:09:25.000 Bring on the history lesson.

00:09:27.000 There's someone named Randolph Bourne, and Randolph Bourne is a very interesting, largely forgotten historical figure.

00:09:32.000 He was the first person who was a journalist who was handicapped, who talked about being handicapped.

00:09:37.000 This is something where handicapped people were invisible before, and he brought that to public attention.

00:09:42.000 He died in the Spanish flu epidemic of, I think it was 1918 or 1920.

00:09:47.000 Because of his disability, he was a dwarf and kind of misshapen. 1.00

00:09:50.000 His lung capacity wasn't what it could have been.

00:09:52.000 And he invented the term, war is the health of the state.

00:09:56.000 And what was happening during the Great War, remember Woodrow Wilson campaigned on, he kept us out of war.

00:10:01.000 The idea that we'd be involved in a war in Europe completely violated the Monroe Doctrine.

00:10:06.000 This had been something that had been the United States policy for 140 years.

00:10:10.000 George Washington in his farewell address, which was written by I'll go straight by Alexander Hamilton said avoid foreign entanglements.

00:10:16.000 So we're going to go to save like Serbia against Italy against the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

00:10:22.000 It made absolutely no sense on American principles.

00:10:25.000 How do you get Americans to change their minds?

00:10:29.000 Well, we all talk about in school about yellow journalism and William Randolph Hearst, the Spanish-American War, remember the main what they forget about is they act like somehow that changed.

00:10:37.000 Like, there's yellow journalism, and then we don't talk about it, and now everyone's objective.

00:10:41.000 It's been the same yellow journalism for a hundred years and more. 0.50

00:10:46.000 The bloodlust of the establishment, in which I include the corporate press, cannot be overstated.

00:10:51.000 And what happened with the Great War is, for the first time, all the lefties became, we need to get involved, we need to be the policemen of the world.

00:11:00.000 Wow.

00:11:00.000 uh... william jennings brian who had been three times previously the

00:11:03.000 democratic nominee who was a big left-wing populist he's the one who brought

00:11:07.000 like strong religion to politics

00:11:09.000 he was what you will send sector state he was a pacifist he resigned over this issue

00:11:14.000 well so you can't the thing is you cannot to this day

00:11:18.000 as president get people into war

00:11:20.000 unless the press prepares them for it yep even if you have a draft

00:11:25.000 so what happened is all these lefties all the sudden

00:11:28.000 had huge ideas about wait a minute if we get into world war one

00:11:33.000 that will give us an excuse to micromanage the economy from a to z it had been bubbling under

00:11:39.000 since the early nineteen hundreds and now we have an excuse

00:11:42.000 We can imagine what it would look like if America was like a factory centrally managed from D.C.

00:11:49.000 Randolph-Bourne was the only one.

00:11:51.000 Who said, John Dewey, Walter Lippman, they were all there.

00:11:55.000 John Dewey, Randolph Burns, the owner said, this is crazy.

00:11:59.000 This is not what progressivism is about.

00:12:01.000 We're not about going overseas to fight on behalf of kings.

00:12:05.000 What are you talking about? 0.96

00:12:06.000 And they started saying, well, he's a cripple. 0.60

00:12:09.000 You shouldn't listen to anything he has to say. 0.95

00:12:11.000 He's crippling body, he's crippling mind.

00:12:12.000 It was extremely offensive.

00:12:14.000 Same thing happened later with Helen Keller.

00:12:15.000 Helen Keller was a radical communist and they said, of course she doesn't know what she's talking about. 1.00

00:12:20.000 She's mentally disabled. 0.98

00:12:21.000 And she's like, I'm not mentally disabled. 0.99

00:12:23.000 I'm deaf, dumb and blind, but my mind is fine. 0.93

00:12:25.000 Like, yeah, okay there. 0.97

00:12:26.000 Go in the corner.

00:12:27.000 So this is a pattern with people on the left. 0.99

00:12:31.000 You're either with us or you're just someone who could be tossed in the garbage.

00:12:34.000 And the Atlantic was one of the big... Oh, and he became completely blacklisted.

00:12:38.000 So, of course, once he starts speaking out about getting us into World War I, which makes no sense, which really destroyed so much lives for what purpose?

00:12:48.000 He was blacklisted.

00:12:49.000 John Dewey wouldn't work with him.

00:12:50.000 John Dewey was like the big leftist intellectual at the time.

00:12:53.000 And they all signed on and sold their souls.

00:12:57.000 And that was the big... This is why Woodrow Wilson, I think, is universally among the correct people, regardless of where he is in present history.

00:13:03.000 Among the correct people?

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:07.000 This is when America became globalist.

00:13:09.000 And he was the second American president to leave America as president.

00:13:14.000 Teddy Roosevelt visited the Panama Canal.

00:13:16.000 He went to Europe.

00:13:17.000 The idea of a president leaving America, you would never think of it before, because the whole point of a president is to stay in your country.

00:13:24.000 Now every president's getting on jet every other weekend.

00:13:27.000 This was not the role of the president.

00:13:28.000 He's supposed to be here and hold the fort, and I use the term fort advisedly.

00:13:32.000 So the Atlantic Has a lot of explaining to do, which they never have had to do, for all their pro-war propaganda.

00:13:39.000 And here's where it gets even more evil.

00:13:41.000 Deborah Lepstadt did an amazing book called Beyond Belief.

00:13:45.000 And the premise of this book was about what the press was covering as Hitler rose to power in Germany.

00:13:50.000 Now, you didn't have the internet, you didn't have cell phones, you didn't have YouTube, anything like that.

00:13:54.000 So they're getting all these reports, And these reports of what Hitler and the Nazis were doing—you don't really have cameras even that much to that extent—seemed crazy and implausible.

00:14:04.000 And they pointed to all the war propaganda from World War I when they talked about how evil the Kaiser was.

00:14:10.000 This was a world where the Kaiser was the most evil human being on Earth.

00:14:13.000 And that was later proven to be false.

00:14:15.000 So they're like, listen, we heard this 20 years ago. 0.95

00:14:18.000 You guys lied about the Hun and how the Hun's killing people and raping everyone. 0.98

00:14:22.000 Oh, and now Hitler's here. 0.98

00:14:23.000 Now he's doing these things.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.

00:14:26.000 And this is a major impediment in stopping Hitler's rise to power. 0.91

00:14:30.000 And you can lay the blame at agencies like the Atlantic, the New Republic, and all these other depraved and malfeasant outlets.

00:14:38.000 This is actually a challenge right now with China.

00:14:40.000 Yes!

00:14:40.000 So with what they're doing with the Uighur Muslims and all that, I've actually had people ask me,

00:14:44.000 yeah, but certainly you don't think war is, you know, is the answer and things like that. Well, not necessarily.

00:14:50.000 But we do have to recognize the things that they're doing, the videos we've seen, the

00:14:54.000 reports that are coming out of China are horrifying.

00:14:57.000 But what do we do?

00:14:59.000 And I think a lot of people are now in this kind of purgatory where, yeah, we've been lied to too much.

00:14:59.000 Yes.

00:15:04.000 The media's gung-ho.

00:15:06.000 Go war. 0.95

00:15:07.000 I think what trumps the first president in a long time, no new wars.

00:15:11.000 And so that's one of the things that made me kind of turn on, okay, when he tried to pull the troops out of

00:15:16.000 Afghanistan and bring our troops back.

00:15:18.000 And I've heard opinions from a lot of people, but there is a real challenge in when is war appropriate.

00:15:24.000 I would personally say, yeah, World War II was something we should... Hitler should have been stopped a long time ago. 0.98

00:15:29.000 It should have never gotten to that point.

00:15:31.000 I didn't know that about how the fake news essentially impeded, you know... This book, Beyond Belief, is just absolutely mind-boggling.

00:15:39.000 It's just amazing because she very much defends the press in the sense that you can understand why they were so skeptical because they heard it all 20 years ago And this is Germany.

00:15:48.000 This is a civilized country.

00:15:50.000 They're going to be acting like they're going to be beating up old people in the street.

00:15:52.000 Okay, come on.

00:15:53.000 Let's have some perspective.

00:15:55.000 And it was true. 0.94

00:15:57.000 The corporate press.

00:15:58.000 Yes, the corporate press is the enemy of the people, and that is the moderate position.

00:16:03.000 You think so?

00:16:04.000 Yes!

00:16:05.000 I mean... They've been at it for over a hundred years and I wrote this piece for The Observer a couple years ago about Obama in the tan suit and I said it's very useful to have a president like Trump who's regarded as a buffoon because you have a president who's widely respected, you will smile and nod when he sends your kids to war, to die overseas for sometimes no reason.

00:16:25.000 There's an amazing traveling exhibit which I saw at UT Austin called The Great War Which is about World War one and I left it crying because you have all these letters from these kids 17 18.

00:16:35.000 Hey mom, we're in Brussels Everything's cool.

00:16:39.000 And the plaque is like he died next week for what for what the amount of car?

00:16:43.000 you know plastic surgery was invented as a result of World War one because of all the disfigurement because everyone came back disfigured like chopped up because it's the first time you had human bodies meeting with the Industrial Revolution that created these machines It was just absolutely horrific what was done to all these kids.

00:16:58.000 The amount of bloodlust that was at Ypres Field.

00:17:00.000 And there's just one more thing.

00:17:01.000 There's a very, very beautiful, very, very evil poem which they love in Canada called In Flanders Fields.

00:17:08.000 And the point of this poem, if you could pull it up, it's pretty short, is it's speaking from the voices of the dead.

00:17:14.000 And it's saying, we're lying here where the poppies grow.

00:17:18.000 Are you going to let us die in vain?

00:17:19.000 Come over and join us.

00:17:21.000 So the idea is like, you're not going to let all these people who died die for no reason.

00:17:25.000 You have to die also because otherwise our deaths were pointless.

00:17:28.000 It's so sinister when you sit down and think about it.

00:17:32.000 And there was a principle at the time that to be a real man, You know you had to join and fight for war and this was a time when all the Ivy Leagues like these men were the first ones to sign up and now we look back at it and it's just like this is kind of crazy how it was glorified that it's a great idea you know you to be a real man you got a call to war even if after the fact you're like what was this about?

00:17:55.000 You know what?

00:17:55.000 Who were the good guys?

00:17:59.000 I don't know if I would believe that Trump as a president would be saying things like that.

00:18:03.000 I agree with you.

00:18:04.000 You're right.

00:18:05.000 So the story to me comes off as absurd, but I do think it's fair to say one thing that we're educated about relentlessly, World War II.

00:18:13.000 When it comes to World War I, Yeah.

00:18:13.000 Yes.

00:18:16.000 It's forgotten.

00:18:16.000 I actually remember when I was in school and we read a little bit about it, but it was passed over almost immediately for World War II.

00:18:24.000 And it's almost like World War I is used in the context of what led to World War II.

00:18:27.000 Right.

00:18:28.000 Like the Germans were upset about the debt and they felt, you know, they wanted retaliation and things like that.

00:18:33.000 But we're not taught the history of all... There really is an overemphasis on World War II for sure, and I think there's good reason for it. 1.00

00:18:40.000 That's an easy story to tell.

00:18:42.000 That is good versus evil.

00:18:45.000 Or good and evil versus evil, because Stalin's on our side. 0.79

00:18:49.000 But they don't teach us, necessarily.

00:18:53.000 We don't get it hammered into us by our culture about how bad Stalin was.

00:18:57.000 And we also don't get hammered into, like, a lot of... The government and the press lied and manipulated us into a war which, a hundred years later, we can't explain why we were in, which led to the normalization of the idea of totalitarianism on American shores.

00:19:12.000 And here's the other thing.

00:19:13.000 Woodrow Wilson... There's a concept I call evangelical progressivism.

00:19:17.000 I talk about this in my book that you write very heavily.

00:19:20.000 And the premise is there's different kinds of leftism.

00:19:22.000 It's not a monolith.

00:19:23.000 And there's this evangelical strain, it's a fundamentalist faith.

00:19:26.000 And Woodrow Wilson came out of that school, which extends very much to this day.

00:19:30.000 And the idea of, it was something called the Social Gospel.

00:19:34.000 And the Social Gospel is a very twisted idea.

00:19:37.000 And it says, you don't take the Christian idea of saving an individual's soul.

00:19:41.000 You can save an entire nation, right?

00:19:43.000 A nation has a spirit that has to be redeemed.

00:19:46.000 Now, if you are going to redeem the spirit of an entire nation, that means everything in your life is on the table.

00:19:52.000 bedroom, the boardroom, on the street, everything is a vehicle for sin and everything is there

00:19:59.000 for up to discussion.

00:20:00.000 And he talked in literally messianic terms about how it's America's God, he's an extremely

00:20:07.000 religious man, America's role to save the world.

00:20:10.000 And when you have that trickle down a hundred years later, it's like whenever there's anything

00:20:15.000 going on, it's our responsibility, even if we really can't do anything about it.

00:20:20.000 And everyone listening to this remembers not that long ago, if we weren't in Syria, all

00:20:25.000 the Kurds would be killed. 0.98

00:20:27.000 It was another Holocaust. 0.96

00:20:28.000 And no one who said that has had any accountability for their lies in trying to get Americans to be overseas, dying in a war where it's not very clear who the good guys are again.

00:20:41.000 But we've had strong glimpses, like, I shouldn't even say glimpse, we've been smacked in the face with this when the New York Times lied about WMDs in Iraq.

00:20:49.000 Oh yes, of course.

00:20:50.000 And now there are kids who are, you know, preparing, I don't know if, what do they say, they're kids?

00:20:55.000 Wait, I've got to interrupt you.

00:20:56.000 Not just WMDs, that he's about to fire them.

00:20:58.000 It wasn't that he had them, it's that he's about to use them.

00:21:01.000 Iran is about to nuke Israel now for 20 years. 0.95

00:21:04.000 Any minute now.

00:21:05.000 We laugh, but this has extremely...

00:21:08.000 So, going back a little bit to the fact that the Atlantic's goal was to shift the cycle to benefit Trump, one of the questions he got asked, Joe Biden, was something like, are you concerned that peace agreements in the Middle East with Israel will destabilize Palestinians' efforts for a two-state solution or something?

00:21:26.000 And I'm like, are you literally trying to undermine peace agreements in the Middle East?

00:21:29.000 They are.

00:21:30.000 Absolutely.

00:21:30.000 Of course they are.

00:21:31.000 They're warmongers.

00:21:32.000 Yes, they cannot.

00:21:33.000 Their bloodlust cannot be overstated.

00:21:35.000 And I got to cut Joe Biden some slack because he did fight in World War One.

00:21:39.000 So, you know, it's a little different for him.

00:21:41.000 He remembers it when it was just Palestine.

00:21:43.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 I think you mentioned Syria.

00:21:48.000 Yeah.

00:21:49.000 You know, we're still in Afghanistan.

00:21:50.000 Yeah.

00:21:51.000 We still have a small... It's not the biggest presence, you know, compared to where it was, I believe.

00:21:54.000 Why are we in Germany?

00:21:56.000 I mean, did we ever leave?

00:21:57.000 We never left!

00:21:58.000 It's mind-boggling.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:59.000 Are we still occupying Germany? 0.77

00:22:00.000 Yes!

00:22:02.000 So I was watching this movie, The Resistance Banker.

00:22:04.000 Okay.

00:22:05.000 And I mentioned it several times now.

00:22:06.000 It was a good movie.

00:22:07.000 It's about this Dutch guy.

00:22:09.000 His name was Van Holl.

00:22:10.000 I forgot.

00:22:11.000 William Van Holl, I think.

00:22:11.000 I'm not sure.

00:22:12.000 But he helped fund the resistance against the Nazis in the Netherlands.

00:22:16.000 It's an amazing story about how he did this scheme to, like, they backed up money for people.

00:22:21.000 Once the government, which was in exile, came back, they'd pay back people this money.

00:22:25.000 And, uh, I totally forgot where I was going with that, because I started thinking about this movie and being cool and, like, fighting against the Nazis.

00:22:31.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:31.000 Anyway, so I'm watching this, and I'm reading Wikipedia about World War II and stuff, and it's like, what happened at the end of World War II?

00:22:38.000 The Allies occupied part of Germany, then the Soviets occupied East Germany, and then I was like, oh, okay, and then I read about, like, you know, the Berlin Wall fell, and I'm like, and when did we leave Germany?

00:22:49.000 We didn't!

00:22:50.000 There's a great book called 1946, which is about what happens in World War II ends and Europe is a complete wasteland and how they rebuilt.

00:22:58.000 And there's one story which no one talks about because it's weird.

00:23:02.000 It doesn't fit the good guy, bad guy thing, which is the Czechs in Czechoslovakia. 1.00

00:23:06.000 They took all the Germans or people of German descent, even people who lived there for 100 years, put a sign on their back that says German and made them walk. 0.87

00:23:13.000 Really?

00:23:13.000 Yes, they walked them to get the F out of Czechoslovakia and they walked to the border.

00:23:13.000 Wait, what?

00:23:17.000 Many died along the way.

00:23:18.000 It was a trail of tears.

00:23:19.000 They were Germans? 0.72

00:23:20.000 Yes, any Germans in Czechoslovakia, get the F out. 1.00

00:23:23.000 Wow.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, and a lot of them died.

00:23:25.000 And they were like, I've never been to Germany.

00:23:27.000 You can stay where you want.

00:23:27.000 I don't care.

00:23:29.000 You can't stay here.

00:23:29.000 Wow.

00:23:30.000 Yeah, but you know what?

00:23:32.000 In one sense, it's like in 40 years you guys have decimated this continent.

00:23:37.000 Like, we have had enough of you people.

00:23:39.000 And you're blaming the Jews for all this, too? 1.00

00:23:42.000 You people are just horrible. 1.00

00:23:44.000 But that's racist, isn't it? 1.00

00:23:46.000 Is German a race?

00:23:48.000 I don't know.

00:23:49.000 Like, those German people didn't do anything. 1.00

00:23:49.000 Ethnicist? 1.00

00:23:51.000 They did not.

00:23:51.000 No, no, they certainly did not.

00:23:52.000 They're just like regular people.

00:23:53.000 And many of them certainly left Germany because they're like, I don't want to be around this.

00:23:57.000 Wow, man, that's brutal.

00:23:58.000 Yeah.

00:23:59.000 That's crazy.

00:24:00.000 Everyone will always tell you that Europeans are much more moral than us and we should aspire to be like Europe. 0.59

00:24:05.000 Every five minutes you hear this.

00:24:07.000 So it seems like the goal... I wonder if Trump not starting a new war is part of the reason why they hate him.

00:24:13.000 I think that he's... It's not only that he's not starting a new war, we told you.

00:24:19.000 We told you you have to start a new war.

00:24:21.000 We told you if you don't do this, it's genocide, and you're waving your hand?

00:24:25.000 No, no, no, no.

00:24:25.000 That's not how this works.

00:24:27.000 What works is we tell you where there's a problem, And you as President, as Commander-in-Chief, send the troops there and fix the problem.

00:24:34.000 This has been the deal for over a hundred years.

00:24:37.000 What are you doing, Orange Man Bad?

00:24:39.000 So do you know that story about the chimps in the study with the ladder and the fruit or whatever?

00:24:45.000 No.

00:24:45.000 So it's like they put five chimps in this room and then they put like a stepladder or like a tall ladder and they put fruit on top.

00:24:51.000 And then anytime a chimp would climb the stepladder, they'd spray him with a hose. 0.74

00:24:55.000 Okay.

00:24:55.000 All of the chimps.

00:24:56.000 All the chimps would get sprayed. 0.91

00:24:57.000 And so then eventually, when a chimp would try climbing the ladder, the other chimps would grab him and beat him up, like, you're gonna get us sprayed with the hose, don't do it. 0.81

00:25:04.000 Then they took one chimp out and put in a new chimp. 1.00

00:25:06.000 That chimp, that never got sprayed with the hose before. 0.99

00:25:08.000 But when that chimp climbs up, the other chimps beat him up.

00:25:11.000 One by one, they swap out all the chimps, never using the hose.

00:25:14.000 Culture, yeah.

00:25:15.000 And then the chimps just kept beating anybody who went near the ladder, not knowing what the real ramification, you know, what was the punishment.

00:25:22.000 I wonder if that's why there's this war machine.

00:25:26.000 It's just the way it's always been.

00:25:27.000 The people who started the process of just non-stop international war and conflict, well, they're dead.

00:25:34.000 It's been a long time.

00:25:36.000 And so now their grandkids are the ones being like, but we have to go to war.

00:25:40.000 I don't think it's just a question of principle for them.

00:25:42.000 I think it's a question of status.

00:25:43.000 It's a question of wealth.

00:25:44.000 It's a question of power.

00:25:46.000 If I'm the guy who decides who lives and dies and can conquer the fates of entire countries, that feels pretty good to me. 1.00

00:25:53.000 And then you have this moron in the White House. 1.00

00:25:56.000 Who does he think he is? 1.00

00:25:57.000 We're like, this has been the process and now you're coming in and turning over the apple cart.

00:26:01.000 That's not how the rules work, buddy.

00:26:03.000 Go back to New York.

00:26:04.000 Well, so let's expand this into... I mean, these people make a lot of money.

00:26:09.000 Oh, definitely.

00:26:09.000 And I think there's also a very sadistic thrill in knowing that you're responsible for sending so many people to their deaths.

00:26:16.000 But if the U.S.

00:26:17.000 wasn't doing it, who would be?

00:26:20.000 There would be someone in, you know, the Soviets.

00:26:23.000 They were doing these expeditions in other places.

00:26:25.000 China's doing it now.

00:26:26.000 I don't think it's a given that there would be this kind of one world power that has its fingers in every pot.

00:26:34.000 I mean, if you look at, let's suppose, Kuwait, right?

00:26:36.000 That was much more of a multinational operation.

00:26:38.000 You had the US, you had Britain, but basically everyone was on the same page on that.

00:26:42.000 It's not implausible that you would have this kind of coalition that would kind of make sure that borders are enforced because it's useful for the powerful to maintain the status quo.

00:26:51.000 It's like gang warfare.

00:26:52.000 This is my turf.

00:26:53.000 This is your turf.

00:26:54.000 We shake hands.

00:26:55.000 The problem is when you have actors in bad faith like China, like what happened with Hong Kong, and that is something that all of us as Americans should be far more disturbed about than COVID because they're going to push the envelope until they get pushed back.

00:27:08.000 And why wouldn't they?

00:27:09.000 Well, so if the U.S.

00:27:11.000 So here's the arguments that I've heard, right?

00:27:13.000 If we leave Afghanistan, there's two big problems. 0.95

00:27:15.000 A humanitarian crisis.

00:27:16.000 Sure.

00:27:17.000 This is what Sean Parnell was saying.

00:27:18.000 And I think it's true.

00:27:18.000 He says all these people that helped us or are sympathized, they're going to be dead.

00:27:23.000 Just they're going to go and kill all these people. 0.99

00:27:25.000 And we can't. 0.98

00:27:25.000 What do we do? 0.98

00:27:26.000 We don't just leave these people to die.

00:27:27.000 Sure.

00:27:28.000 And I'm like, that is it.

00:27:29.000 That is it.

00:27:30.000 That's a serious challenge.

00:27:31.000 Although I think we've kind of created this mess for ourselves.

00:27:33.000 We've got to find a way out.

00:27:34.000 The other issue is China moves in.

00:27:36.000 Yeah.

00:27:37.000 Now that there's a power vacuum, they can come in, they can take control of the territory and use it for strategic purposes or for resources.

00:27:45.000 And then China's already pushing into other parts of the world, South America, Africa. 0.72

00:27:50.000 Are you familiar with what they were trying to do with the Nicaraguan Canal?

00:27:53.000 No, I know they're pulling out of Africa to some extent, but please educate me.

00:27:55.000 So this was several years ago.

00:27:57.000 I believe the project fell through, but we essentially control the Panama Canal, which is very, very powerful.

00:28:02.000 They wanted to just rip through Nicaragua And that's massive.

00:28:06.000 That's not Panama.

00:28:07.000 Panama's like... That's by design.

00:28:09.000 They picked it for a reason, because it's the shortest one, yeah.

00:28:11.000 So they worked all these deals, and it would have apparently destroyed this massive freshwater aquifer and decimated a lot of local population.

00:28:17.000 Ultimately it fell through, but they were moving towards this.

00:28:20.000 The ultimate goal being, they want to supplant us.

00:28:23.000 They want to... They're pushing us out.

00:28:26.000 And then the fear I have is, yeah, man, I hate these foreign, you know, excursions or whatever you want to call them. 1.00

00:28:31.000 The U.S.

00:28:32.000 likes to hop around.

00:28:33.000 You know, the Syria thing, there's a lot of, I guess I could call it speculation, because I'm not a Middle Eastern policy expert, but like the Qatar-Turkey pipeline.

00:28:42.000 Right.

00:28:42.000 You're familiar with this?

00:28:43.000 Yes.

00:28:43.000 They're trying to build a natural gas pipeline up through Syria, through Turkey, into Europe to essentially, correct me if I'm wrong, offset the Gazprom gas monopoly in Europe.

00:28:52.000 So this leads to war, all these conflicts.

00:28:55.000 So I'm not a fan of us being like, we should get cheaper gas in Europe, and Russia's, you know, strangling us on this, so we want Syria to bend the knee to us, and then Syria says no, and then, oh, lucky for us, there's an uprising, and the US is on the side of the people who oppose this.

00:29:07.000 All that being said...

00:29:10.000 What do we do if China is gaining territory and moving around and doing the things they're doing? 0.52

00:29:14.000 They're quite literally running concentration camps.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I wrote the book on North Korea, so I am not at all a fan of the Chinese government and the North Korean government.

00:29:23.000 This is something that's, you know, my wheelhouse, and I've been, you know, warning about this for many years, and thankfully the audiences have been extremely receptive to hearing this story.

00:29:31.000 Honestly, what I would say, if the corporate press wasn't as depraved as it is, it would be very easy, or moderately easy, to get us to side with Russia against China.

00:29:41.000 Oh yeah!

00:29:42.000 It would!

00:29:43.000 There's been a very long history, decades long, of rivalry between Russia and China, between Mao and all the Russian leaders.

00:29:51.000 If we were combined against them, it would be pretty much unstoppable.

00:29:55.000 But because the corporate press has made Putin, for no reason that's ever been explained, to be the worst dictator on earth, this has now become radioactive.

00:30:04.000 And if Trump made moves to strengthen his relationship with Russia, which would benefit a lot of people, if Russia and the U.S.

00:30:10.000 were teamed up in the Middle East, That would solve a lot of problems, because we could, between us, could sit a lot of these countries down, the more moderate ones, and be like, look, we're locking you guys in a room, figure it out, you know, and they bang on the door till it'll let out, but it happened with UAE, and this could be the first domino. 0.77

00:30:26.000 You invite them to the rec center.

00:30:27.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 And then once they all come in, they realize both sides are there, but then you lock the doors.

00:30:31.000 Exactly.

00:30:31.000 Yeah.

00:30:32.000 Yeah.

00:30:34.000 I think I know why Russia is the bad guy. 1.00

00:30:37.000 Why?

00:30:37.000 Because the U.S.

00:30:39.000 is cutting deals with China.

00:30:40.000 And not the U.S., but these politicians.

00:30:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:42.000 For decades now, our manufacturing has been extracted.

00:30:45.000 And we can thank Nixon for this.

00:30:47.000 What did Nixon do? 0.95

00:30:48.000 I mean, Nixon went to China and normalized relations.

00:30:49.000 He raised the glass to Chairman Mao in a toast that was written by Pat Buchanan.

00:30:53.000 Geez, really?

00:30:54.000 Yes, yes.

00:30:55.000 And the thing is, what people don't appreciate, this is what I hate, binary thinkers in politics. 0.85

00:30:59.000 You know, they think if I want right-wing ideas, I'm going to vote right-wing, and if I want left-wing ideas, I vote left-wing.

00:31:04.000 Bill Clinton gave abandon gay marriage in a balanced budget.

00:31:07.000 A lot of times, because there's no one to a person's left to criticize them, they're in a position to implement right-wing ideas and vice versa.

00:31:14.000 Richard Nixon, who cut his teeth running against Helen Douglas, I think was her name, was for the Senate, and called her a commie, which in some way she probably was.

00:31:22.000 No one's going to say Richard Nixon's too pro-communist, so that gave him cover as president to go to China.

00:31:29.000 I mean, Mao is the biggest butcher in history without question, and raise a glass and like, oh, we're friends now, and who's going to say he's not hard enough on communism?

00:31:38.000 So this is something that a lot of times politics is very counterintuitive, but there's a very big incentive for both political parties to make it seem like it's This is left, this is right.

00:31:48.000 If you want right, vote right.

00:31:49.000 If you want left, vote left.

00:31:50.000 And that's not how it ends up.

00:31:52.000 Look at the spending this year.

00:31:53.000 There's been no voices saying, what if it's just maybe 10% less?

00:31:57.000 No one.

00:31:58.000 Well, Trump has really broken the left and the right of whatever it's supposed to be.

00:32:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:02.000 You know what I think?

00:32:04.000 That the way I view politics right now, and one of the reasons why, aside from the riots and the chaos, I'm like, you know what, man, I'm voting for Trump.

00:32:11.000 And there's a lot of reasons.

00:32:11.000 Number one is the cult of intersectionality.

00:32:14.000 Identitarianism on the left is like nightmarishly expansive. 0.97

00:32:17.000 It's just getting worse.

00:32:18.000 It's Maoism.

00:32:19.000 There were struggle sessions.

00:32:21.000 Those are literal struggle sessions.

00:32:23.000 My fear is they want to rewind the clock on civil rights.

00:32:26.000 Like, I'm not even kidding.

00:32:27.000 They were appealing Prop 209 in California, which is their public civil rights law.

00:32:32.000 They're like, we're getting rid of this one!

00:32:33.000 And that's crazy to me.

00:32:34.000 But one of the big deals, particularly, is Trump trying to remove our troops.

00:32:41.000 He tried doing it in Syria.

00:32:42.000 It's not worked out too well.

00:32:43.000 I remember when he fired those Tomahawks at Syria, the 59 Tomahawk missiles, and I was laughing, like, yeah, of course, here we go again.

00:32:48.000 It's what presidents do.

00:32:49.000 It's a big game.

00:32:50.000 And then all of a sudden the media was like, hmm, oh, is Trump being presidential now?

00:32:53.000 The first step, of course, we remember this very well, is the first time he was being presidential is when he's bombing another country.

00:32:58.000 It's so... But once you know that that's what they believe, it's very disturbing, because you see it all the time.

00:33:04.000 So Trump is not a Republican.

00:33:07.000 He's not a Republican the way I remember Republicans growing up.

00:33:10.000 These Christian, moral, Mitt Romney types.

00:33:13.000 So I view Trump as... He's kind of like to me... But I got interrupted, Tim.

00:33:18.000 That's a myth.

00:33:19.000 The only Christian Mitt Romney type was Jimmy Carter, who is a Democrat.

00:33:23.000 Reagan was divorced.

00:33:25.000 Uh, George H.W.

00:33:26.000 Bush was- Oh, no, no, no, right.

00:33:27.000 But there were- None of- The thing is, that's the image, but none of them were really there.

00:33:30.000 That's not- I don't necessarily mean- I'm giving a caricature.

00:33:33.000 I don't- Obviously, I don't think all the Republicans were like, you know, hoity-toity Christian, uptight.

00:33:33.000 Okay, sure.

00:33:38.000 I think it was like, you know, when I was growing up, the Republicans were very moral authoritarian.

00:33:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:42.000 And so now that's kind of drifted away, and we're seeing a more, like, Republicans are becoming a bit more libertarian.

00:33:47.000 Sure.

00:33:48.000 And they're kind of, you know, less about imposing their morals on other people, whereas the left is doing all of that now.

00:33:53.000 Each party is libertarian when they're in the defensive, and then when they get in power, they become authoritarian, because now they're in a position to do what they want.

00:34:00.000 Well, I don't think Trump is whatever that establishment party was.

00:34:04.000 And I think they're mad.

00:34:04.000 I agree.

00:34:05.000 We're seeing all these Republicans resign, retire, you know, not resign.

00:34:09.000 Not John Kasich!

00:34:10.000 Please come back, John!

00:34:12.000 And now they're all endorsing Biden.

00:34:13.000 You know why I see what it is?

00:34:15.000 Or the way I see it?

00:34:16.000 Both parties were like, You know that Futurama episode?

00:34:21.000 You watch Futurama?

00:34:22.000 Where Jack Johnson and John Jackson are the presidents?

00:34:22.000 Of course.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, of course.

00:34:27.000 Or don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

00:34:30.000 The Futurama joke is, I think your tax proposal goes too far.

00:34:34.000 I think your tax proposal doesn't go too far enough.

00:34:38.000 You don't even know what they're talking about.

00:34:39.000 So I remember I posted this meme a long time ago on Facebook.

00:34:42.000 It got a ton of shares.

00:34:44.000 It's an image of a guy sitting on a couch with his girlfriend, and she's got his arm around him, and then his arm is behind the couch holding the hands of a different woman.

00:34:53.000 And so I put, you know, Democrats, Republicans, you, and you're on your party, like, loving them, and they're secretly working together.

00:35:00.000 Of course.

00:35:01.000 The Republican establishment and the Democratic establishment were in agreement on war and

00:35:08.000 this intervention and all of these things.

00:35:10.000 And then Trump comes in and it's kind of wild and all over the place.

00:35:13.000 Now he's sort of, no new wars, trying to pull our troops out.

00:35:17.000 It's a part of his second term agenda.

00:35:18.000 He actually tried to do it.

00:35:20.000 And now they're going nuts.

00:35:21.000 And they've been going nuts the whole time, for sure.

00:35:23.000 Here's the other thing.

00:35:24.000 If you were wrong by your own admission about the biggest foreign policy decision in the last 30 years, which was the Iraq war.

00:35:30.000 If this is, by your own words, this was a mistake.

00:35:33.000 Mistake means like, oh, Tim, I was supposed to pay you back.

00:35:35.000 I forgot the money.

00:35:36.000 Oops, buddy.

00:35:36.000 You never said that, or I'm late.

00:35:38.000 It's not, I'm responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

00:35:42.000 Let's even pretend Iraqi lives don't matter, which a lot of times people actually do, and how many soldiers. 0.95

00:35:47.000 If that's the case, if your judgment is that flawed, you're not in a position to try to be commander-in-chief.

00:35:53.000 You would have actual guilt and be like, what have I done?

00:35:57.000 Like you and I both know people who had their finger in leading up to the Iraq war and who look back at that and they're still filled with enormous guilt as well they should be.

00:36:07.000 If you thought of this as a mistake, if you had your hand in the Iraq war and you think of it a mistake in the same way you and I and many other people think a mistake, you're not running for president.

00:36:15.000 You're going to therapy because you're like, how can I sleep at night where because of my vote so many people lost their kid?

00:36:22.000 I don't think they care.

00:36:24.000 Right.

00:36:25.000 They don't care.

00:36:25.000 But what I'm saying is if it really was a mistake, a sane person would be like, oh my god, what have I done?

00:36:30.000 So what do you think about Trump?

00:36:33.000 I mean, I could go on for hours.

00:36:34.000 Let's be more specific.

00:36:36.000 In this context, do you think Trump is trying to do right by America?

00:36:40.000 I think in this context, Trump has been very consistent in being anti-war.

00:36:45.000 I think they, the corporate press and the cathedral always like to portray themselves as sophisticated, right?

00:36:53.000 Oh, you don't understand.

00:36:54.000 You watch your Big Bang Theory and Peoria.

00:36:57.000 We read the New Yorker and we watch, listen to NPR.

00:37:00.000 We're sophisticated.

00:37:02.000 And obviously, you know, the arguments for war are often complex, although they're dishonest. 1.00

00:37:06.000 And it's like, wait a minute, this idiot is saying, what's the point of going to war? 1.00

00:37:12.000 Can someone sit him down and explain it? 1.00

00:37:14.000 Because I sure can't. 0.97

00:37:15.000 Yeah, you can't because you're a liar, because there isn't a reason.

00:37:18.000 So the fact that he has this very basic aversion to war, the fact that he's like, explain to me why we have to be everywhere on Earth.

00:37:27.000 My friend had this idea, and I think this would be brilliant.

00:37:30.000 If the Commander-in-Chief, you know, Halloween, October 15th, says, you know what?

00:37:36.000 These troops should be spending Christmas with their families.

00:37:39.000 I'm pulling them from all over the world, and they can vote, by the way, and let the press freak out, like, oh my god, it's going to stabilize the world, and let all these Americans be like, that is how patriots operate, and this would be an enormous boon for him, and it would drop their mask even further for their malfeasance and depravity.

00:37:58.000 Let them justify why they're in these places.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, why are we in Germany?

00:38:01.000 Yeah. 0.56

00:38:02.000 The hell are you talking about? It was so funny when that happened because, you know, Trump talked 0.95

00:38:06.000 about getting our troops out of Afghanistan and Germany and the intercept. I'm like, you know,

00:38:10.000 this is what's crazy to me. Why aren't they more in favor of Trump take the win when you can take

00:38:15.000 it? Yeah. If you are adamant about getting our troops back and you're willing to criticize

00:38:20.000 Democrats and Republicans for blocking Trump from doing so, then maybe you shouldn't jump on all of

00:38:25.000 the insane corporate press smears of the president to make money.

00:38:29.000 Do you remember that when we assassinated General Soleimani, that was going to be World War III?

00:38:33.000 Yeah, I remember that.

00:38:34.000 That was a given.

00:38:35.000 He was their, you know, George Washington.

00:38:37.000 I can't believe he killed this guy.

00:38:38.000 What have we done? 0.64

00:38:39.000 They're going to nuke Israel. 0.99

00:38:41.000 They're not going to back down.

00:38:42.000 But then they back down.

00:38:43.000 No one who said that we would have these disastrous consequences has paid any price for their at least this confusion, let alone lies.

00:38:55.000 You know, that's why Russia needs to be the specter. 0.97

00:38:58.000 If we pull our troops out of Germany, Russia will move in. 0.95

00:39:01.000 Russia's not going to invade Germany.

00:39:02.000 Can you imagine if Russia invaded Germany? 0.95

00:39:03.000 That's ridiculous. 0.76

00:39:04.000 Now, Russia did invade Crimea. 0.92

00:39:06.000 Sure.

00:39:06.000 You know, we can talk about that, but we didn't do anything then.

00:39:08.000 Right.

00:39:09.000 And that was a long time ago.

00:39:10.000 Right.

00:39:11.000 So ultimately, I ask you the question about Trump in kind of the terms of I don't know how you... Would you vote for Trump?

00:39:20.000 I don't believe in voting, no.

00:39:21.000 I'm an anarchist, no.

00:39:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:39:24.000 Well, I guess how do I ask you that question, then?

00:39:26.000 What do you think of his job?

00:39:28.000 Do you think he's done a good job?

00:39:29.000 I think what he's best at is getting them to drop their mask.

00:39:34.000 And I think what he's best at is something I'm very big and heavily in favor of is eliminating political discourse and having this idea, this boomer-con fantasy that everyone's going to sit down and it's going to be Reagan and Tip O'Neill and we're going to just shake our hands and come to a compromise. 0.71

00:39:50.000 When the parties work together, America gets screwed.

00:39:53.000 It is very, very useful for them to despise each other in real life. 0.66

00:39:57.000 A lot of times they despise each other for fake, like in wrestling.

00:40:01.000 I'm old enough to remember when people found out that Hacksaw Jim Duggan and The Iron Sheik were in a car together and they got arrested.

00:40:07.000 He's a bad guy, he's a good guy.

00:40:08.000 This is unconscionable.

00:40:09.000 This changed everything.

00:40:10.000 You mean Kamala isn't really a cannibal from Africa who eats chickens? 0.97

00:40:14.000 It blew everyone's mind.

00:40:15.000 And a lot of that is fake, and for the cameras.

00:40:17.000 Lindsey Graham is a great example.

00:40:19.000 He was losing his mind by Kavanaugh.

00:40:21.000 Where have been the Julie Swetnick summons? 0.94

00:40:23.000 Where have been the counter-bill people who lied, called him a gang rapist?

00:40:26.000 That's why I don't like any of these people.

00:40:27.000 Right, exactly.

00:40:28.000 So they put on a good show, and whatever.

00:40:30.000 But he is, I think, showing a lot of people that there's large segments of the left who want you dead, but will settle for your submission.

00:40:39.000 And it's become... The fact that you would have... Let's go back to The Atlantic.

00:40:44.000 If I were, as an entity, responsible for getting us into the Great War and felt some remorse about this century-old mistake, nowadays I'd be like, you know what?

00:40:54.000 This is our background.

00:40:55.000 I'm gonna err on the side of caution and err on the side of non-interventionism because I got a lot of explaining to do and a lot of making effort.

00:41:02.000 But they don't.

00:41:03.000 Because they are proud of their depravity.

00:41:06.000 Well, I think they're proud of World War II. 1.00

00:41:08.000 Oh sure, but that wasn't the Atlantic. 0.95

00:41:10.000 World War I was largely... No, I mean, you get an example... But they couldn't get us into World War II. 0.78

00:41:15.000 It took the Japanese. 1.00

00:41:16.000 Right.

00:41:17.000 But I think after World War II, they can justify, you see, here's what happened.

00:41:22.000 And there's a legitimate question about how do we deal with China?

00:41:25.000 I have no good answers.

00:41:27.000 I don't think there are any good answers on the table.

00:41:28.000 They're not a paper tiger.

00:41:30.000 They're enormously powerful.

00:41:31.000 They're incredibly vindictive.

00:41:32.000 They do not value human life.

00:41:34.000 And when you have a billion people, you don't value human life.

00:41:37.000 Things get very, very tricky very quickly.

00:41:39.000 I hear a lot of people say that China is a paper tiger.

00:41:41.000 And I'm like, that's, as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant because they have economic power.

00:41:45.000 They can buy the, you know, the rock lobster or whatever.

00:41:49.000 They've got a huge military.

00:41:50.000 And the thing is, they're also in a position to do, they've got nukes.

00:41:55.000 I mean, a paper tiger or not, and these people are, it's very important for them not to lose face in the public eye.

00:42:02.000 So these are very dangerous stakes.

00:42:05.000 One of the things I've pointed out, we were talking a little bit about this before the show.

00:42:11.000 There's a lot of things that have happened because of COVID and the riots that have benefited us if it comes to war.

00:42:17.000 Notably that our cities are decentralized, our economy is becoming remote workers, making it very hard to destabilize.

00:42:23.000 and people are armed to the teeth. We've gotten rid of non-essential jobs and a lot of the jobs

00:42:28.000 that are coming back first are the ones that are, for the most part, more essential than others.

00:42:32.000 And some jobs have permanently closed that weren't as essential, which means a lot of people are now

00:42:36.000 going to be seeking out work that will be more in line with essential activities. These things

00:42:41.000 together, that's going to help us out a lot if it comes to war.

00:42:45.000 And there's been, uh, there's something I often refer to called Thucydides' Trap.

00:42:49.000 This has just been referenced in the media over and over again.

00:42:51.000 Have you familiar with it?

00:42:53.000 Is that the one with the boat?

00:42:54.000 Thucydides' Trap?

00:42:55.000 No.

00:42:56.000 It's the, it's, it's, I don't know the exact reference of why it is, you know, named this, but the general idea is when a rising economic power approaches the dominant power, war breaks out.

00:43:06.000 Okay.

00:43:07.000 And it's like, I think the Atlantic did a story saying out of the past 500 years, there have been 16 moments and 12 of them resulted in war.

00:43:13.000 So, one of the arguments I hear from the people who are pro, like, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, you're familiar with the trade deals, was that it would prevent war from breaking out by creating strong economic ties between the two countries.

00:43:25.000 Send all our factories over to China, we can't go to war with them, they'll rise and become the dominant superpower, but who cares, we're all rich.

00:43:31.000 Oh, that's very disturbing.

00:43:33.000 I mean, who cares?

00:43:34.000 That's one of the arguments. 0.98

00:43:35.000 Who cares if the Chinese... oh my god, that's horrifying. 1.00

00:43:37.000 That's what scares me. 0.75

00:43:38.000 was I mean I'm gonna get all Christian but what value is the price of money if 0.72

00:43:42.000 it cost of your soul I mean this that's what scares me that's a depraved nation

00:43:46.000 well so state I'm the government I right but the people there are people who

00:43:50.000 genuinely argue war is bad we don't want death and if we have these trade lines

00:43:56.000 and China, it will disincentivize war because people would lose money because of it. 0.94

00:44:00.000 But we still get death because when you have a totalitarian regime, the oppression and the amount of people killed, it's my God.

00:44:05.000 And if they take over.

00:44:06.000 Yes, of course.

00:44:07.000 So Bernie and Trump oppose TPP.

00:44:10.000 Okay.

00:44:10.000 Now Bernie, he sold out to the DNC as soon as he could.

00:44:13.000 Of course.

00:44:14.000 You know he doesn't say millionaires anymore.

00:44:16.000 Is that right?

00:44:16.000 Right, it's just billionaires.

00:44:17.000 You say millionaires and billionaires, now it's just billionaires because he's a millionaire.

00:44:21.000 I'm assuming that's the reason.

00:44:22.000 But he's totally in line, endorsed them every step of the way, but Trump is very much, he

00:44:26.000 shut it down, he shut down NAFTA.

00:44:28.000 And it seems like whether Trump has the ability to do so or not, whether he's sporadic or

00:44:33.000 not, he does want to help this country.

00:44:37.000 There's also an example in American shores, which is Alexander Hamilton's brilliant idea

00:44:41.000 was to have a national bank and nationalize the debt because he said this would be a great

00:44:45.000 blessing because when you have the debt of 13 states in your round, you can't unwind it.

00:44:50.000 So it's going to be a country, whereas if you had 13 states, 13 currencies, it's very easy to separate apart.

00:44:55.000 To the point where Jefferson, who was like a huge enemy of this, he's like, this is unconstitutional.

00:44:59.000 He backed up having the National Bank as president.

00:45:01.000 And what that led to, 70 years later, was a civil war.

00:45:05.000 This idea that economic entanglements are going to be a guarantee against war.

00:45:10.000 Maybe against war, but it's sure not going to be a guarantee against conflict.

00:45:13.000 And we saw it, thankfully, the other peaceful way with Brexit, where they voted for Brexit, but then implementing it took two years because no one could negotiate the terms of divorce successfully.

00:45:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:22.000 I mean, it was... I think it was more than that.

00:45:25.000 It was... Yeah, it was an extended period of time.

00:45:27.000 It felt like a betrayal from the politicians, from Parliament.

00:45:30.000 Theresa May is just... I'm really happy that she's going to go down in history as one of the worst politicians in history. 1.00

00:45:36.000 No.

00:45:36.000 Oh yeah, of course.

00:45:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yes.

00:45:36.000 what is it, December 13th, 2019 in the UK?

00:45:37.000 No.

00:45:39.000 No, what would you- Insane landslide victory for the conservatives.

00:45:42.000 Oh yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yes.

00:45:43.000 You think that's coming here?

00:45:45.000 No.

00:45:46.000 You don't think so?

00:45:46.000 No, I don't think so.

00:45:47.000 Like the House flipping Republican, Senate going, you know, maintaining-

00:45:51.000 No, I don't, I mean, it's very different with the Parliament, because basically the Parliament

00:45:55.000 is the equivalent of our House of Representatives, right?

00:45:57.000 And you had Jeremy Corbyn, which people don't appreciate to what extent Jeremy Corbyn is a despicable evil person who validated enormous anti-Semitism and radicalism.

00:46:08.000 He was like a Stalinist, right?

00:46:10.000 Joe Biden, it's very hard to hate him.

00:46:12.000 In terms of politics, he's not a bad person. 1.00

00:46:15.000 He might be an idiot or an ass or many things. 1.00

00:46:18.000 It's very hard to make the case this guy is a radical. 1.00

00:46:21.000 My favorite Joe Biden is Angry Old Man Joe Biden.

00:46:23.000 There was a... Look fat, Joe Biden?

00:46:26.000 No, an activist!

00:46:27.000 An activist got in his face and said, you need open borders.

00:46:30.000 Biden turned his back and said, go vote for Trump.

00:46:33.000 Go vote for Trump.

00:46:34.000 Like, stuff like that.

00:46:35.000 I mean, he's much more old school.

00:46:36.000 I mean, the guy's been in the Senate since Nixon. 0.97

00:46:39.000 So, he put a lot of black people in jail.

00:46:43.000 Yeah, he got Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court to some extent. 0.91

00:46:47.000 I mean, he didn't fight it, or whatever his role was in that.

00:46:50.000 So, he has a rec... I mean, he's talking the nonsensical talk now.

00:46:54.000 Just yesterday, he was claiming that a black person invented the lightbulb.

00:46:57.000 This is just pure out of... Is that what he said?

00:46:59.000 Yes.

00:46:59.000 This is pure out of this kind of revisionist history, where, you know, population is the most oppressed in history, but also the greatest inventor simultaneously, somehow.

00:47:09.000 But this has been common parlance with this kind of Howard Zinn, far lefty, and Joe Biden just, you know, being a good politician and talking the talk.

00:47:16.000 But it's going to be very hard to compare him to Jeremy Corbyn because Jeremy Corbyn, I don't think we have any American analog in terms of how, what a nasty person he is and how uncharismatic and how radical his ideas were.

00:47:30.000 I have a bold, I don't want to call it a prediction, but I just, you know, I have ideas sometimes.

00:47:35.000 And I imagine a future.

00:47:37.000 I like to look at everything that's going on, the variables, and then try and think as far ahead as possible.

00:47:41.000 The issue with predicting too far ahead is that the more variables you throw into the mix, the greater number of futures you can perceive of.

00:47:52.000 But I envision there's a possible future in which Donald Trump wins.

00:47:57.000 There is some semblance of unity among individuals in rejection of this far-left insanity.

00:48:04.000 Regular people are scared.

00:48:05.000 They can't speak up their own opinions.

00:48:07.000 That was the Cato Institute.

00:48:09.000 Most people do not hold these views.

00:48:10.000 It's somewhere between 8 and 10 percent according to a lot of these polls, these far-progressive views.

00:48:15.000 And people hate cancel culture.

00:48:16.000 So there's a lot of people who are secretly not speaking up.

00:48:20.000 I envision a future where We actually come together, in a sense.

00:48:23.000 Trump wins, shocking the nation, and ultimately we do end up in a war with China, and all of these things that have happened from the riots end up becoming an afterthought.

00:48:33.000 We've got decentralized—we've decentralized our economy, remote workers working in the mountains off of— Where would the war take place?

00:48:41.000 That's a good question.

00:48:42.000 Pacific, international, the South China Sea.

00:48:44.000 Like Guam?

00:48:45.000 Like we're just fighting on Guam?

00:48:46.000 Potentially.

00:48:47.000 Well, the South China Sea, the atolls, a lot of the conflict would happen there.

00:48:51.000 But I imagine that depending on who gets dragged into it and to what degree this erupts, first and foremost, I would say this is wild speculation looking far into the future.

00:49:03.000 But most of the conflict we've seen so far has been in the South China Sea.

00:49:07.000 With China, they've been accused of sinking Vietnamese fishing boats.

00:49:11.000 You know they've been doing beaching drills.

00:49:12.000 No, I'm not familiar with this.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, so like landing boats on the beach and running in.

00:49:17.000 And a lot of people think it's because they want to invade Taiwan.

00:49:19.000 They want to seize control.

00:49:21.000 And that could be a catalyst for, you know, whatever this Thucydides war would end up becoming between the U.S.

00:49:27.000 But we have all of these inadvertent things that have happened because of the riots that actually would help us out if we went to war.

00:49:35.000 Here's, I think, I don't know that I have anything of interest to add to what you're saying.

00:49:39.000 I don't think that's remotely an impossibility.

00:49:41.000 My big question, I'm wondering, Hold on.

00:49:43.000 is who is more likely to have the riots end when they become if they win the

00:49:47.000 election you can easily make the argument why we trump is now he's

00:49:50.000 an efficient center tanks he's just got the validation

00:49:53.000 but you could easily see be by then because i could say we have an adult in

00:49:55.000 the room now lol hold on tanks yes i sent a i'm using a metaphorically

00:50:00.000 but just basically a lot of our daughter and i have national government 1.00

00:50:03.000 something actually not Well, no, he's doing something smarter.

00:50:06.000 Oh, he's being smart now.

00:50:06.000 I'm just saying in terms of November, like there's two scenarios and I can make the case for either would be the one better to stop the riots from happening.

00:50:15.000 Trump, the feds have deputized Oregon State Police.

00:50:18.000 Did you hear this?

00:50:19.000 No, I've not.

00:50:20.000 Now an arrest from an Oregon State trooper of these riders goes to the feds, not to the local DA.

00:50:24.000 Oh, that's so smart.

00:50:25.000 Exactly.

00:50:26.000 Trump nailed it.

00:50:28.000 Nail, you know, with a hammer.

00:50:29.000 While keeping his hands clean.

00:50:31.000 Yup.

00:50:32.000 So a lot of people have been saying, insurrection act, insurrection act.

00:50:34.000 And I'm like, man, I don't know.

00:50:35.000 They'll use it against them.

00:50:37.000 Of course.

00:50:37.000 He's Hitler.

00:50:37.000 He's an authoritarian.

00:50:38.000 But not just that.

00:50:39.000 Could you imagine the troops coming in and then the local government saying, get out.

00:50:43.000 Yes.

00:50:44.000 We're being occupied.

00:50:45.000 Yeah.

00:50:45.000 So, so the DHS deputizes, the feds deputize the Oregon State Police.

00:50:50.000 It's a local affair.

00:50:51.000 But if the state police, when they arrest them, the feds prosecute.

00:50:54.000 The problem was the state police retreated out of Portland because every arrest they made, the DA would be like, you're free to go.

00:51:00.000 Charges dropped.

00:51:02.000 So, Trump has figured out a way to deal with the riots.

00:51:06.000 Well, there you go.

00:51:06.000 What I thought he did brilliantly was when he called out the mayor of Portland and he said, you know what?

00:51:13.000 Call me.

00:51:14.000 We'll solve this so easily, you wouldn't even believe it.

00:51:17.000 Because that tells everyone they're either comfortable with this or unable to stop it.

00:51:22.000 And he's like, the offer's on the table.

00:51:24.000 Ball's in your court, Mr. Mayor.

00:51:25.000 I'm respecting your authority.

00:51:26.000 And it's really the smart... Lori Lightfoot, this genius mayor of Chicago, she said, well, the riots are happening because we don't have gun control. 0.98

00:51:37.000 Lady, you haven't had gun control in 2018, 2019, 2017. 0.99

00:51:40.000 Now all of a sudden it's causing rioting?

00:51:42.000 How is not having gun control causing rioting?

00:51:45.000 It's amazing what straws they'll grasp to try to create some kind of reason for why things are happening because these things shouldn't be happening.

00:51:52.000 How do these people keep getting elected?

00:51:54.000 Like, why has Chicago been Democrat for, what, 80 years?

00:51:57.000 Well, I think there's a lot of dynamics in cities where people just culturally are going to end up voting for the same thing over and over and just expecting... It's unconscionable.

00:52:07.000 You're not going to vote for a Republican.

00:52:08.000 And the Republicans aren't going to waste their time because you're still going to have that city council.

00:52:12.000 This is why I don't vote.

00:52:13.000 I am going to be voting in November, though.

00:52:16.000 And the surge of intersectionality has freaked me out to the point where I'm like, I'll be completely honest, Trump trying to withdraw the troops from Afghanistan, I'm like, you know what, I'll take what I can get.

00:52:27.000 There's two things that are going to fight this cult, which I think are going to be very useful.

00:52:31.000 One is the more radical solution, which I've introduced.

00:52:35.000 The kind of thing is, what the left does very well is they throw out the completely crazy version, they settle for like three quarters, defund the police.

00:52:42.000 It's like, oh my god, it's crazy.

00:52:43.000 Okay, how about you give us A, B, and C?

00:52:44.000 Sure, but as long as we don't have to defund the police.

00:52:47.000 I think we should nationalize all university endowments, which are the crystallization of privilege.

00:52:53.000 There's nothing more privileged than having a fancy Ivy League degree, and use that money for reparations.

00:52:57.000 Have you been following a Will Chamberlain on Twitter?

00:53:00.000 Will Chamberlain got that idea from me.

00:53:02.000 Oh, did he?

00:53:02.000 He stole your idea!

00:53:04.000 He didn't steal it, he credits me!

00:53:06.000 Will Chamberlain's my buddy, head of human events, that's my idea.

00:53:09.000 Seize the endowments.

00:53:10.000 Yes, seize the endowments.

00:53:11.000 The other thing that can happen in the short term, especially with startups, is when you see someone coming from an Ivy League, you should look at that person with the same stigma as someone who was gay in the 1950s.

00:53:22.000 This person is security risk.

00:53:24.000 You're inviting something in your company that you might not want.

00:53:27.000 But that was wrong.

00:53:28.000 Sure, but now it's right.

00:53:29.000 Well, the SJW stuff.

00:53:33.000 Yeah, but now it's right to be discriminatory, be like, odds are this person has been trained to be a member of the social justice warrior militia.

00:53:40.000 Look what happened to Papa John's.

00:53:42.000 Papa John's was quoting someone.

00:53:44.000 Disparaging them.

00:53:45.000 Yes, he's saying, don't talk like this person who said this, that's terrible, you're fired.

00:53:49.000 He said, can you believe that this guy said that n-word and got away with it?

00:53:53.000 The press didn't come after him? 0.99

00:53:54.000 This is ridiculous. 0.98

00:53:54.000 And he got fired from his own company. 0.98

00:53:56.000 You mean by the Netflix guy?

00:53:57.000 No, what happened there?

00:53:57.000 He was giving a seminar on words that were offensive that shouldn't be on Netflix.

00:54:01.000 And so this is hilarious.

00:54:03.000 This story is so amazing.

00:54:04.000 He says a bunch of words.

00:54:06.000 Someone in the meeting complained to HR.

00:54:09.000 They brought him in and said, what happened?

00:54:10.000 And he explained, I was giving a meeting explaining these are the words we don't allow on Netflix.

00:54:15.000 And then they were like, what were the words?

00:54:16.000 He said them.

00:54:17.000 And then the HR people complained.

00:54:19.000 He said the word in front of us!

00:54:21.000 I can't, what?

00:54:22.000 He was telling you not to say it!

00:54:23.000 But yeah, but you're ascribing rationality of fundamentalist faith.

00:54:27.000 I know.

00:54:28.000 So this is what, when you're starting up a company, and you're looking at these resumes, you need to start looking at these as examples of something to fear and stigma, and the price, the value that they might add from coming to Lee College, it's gonna be decreasing as opposed to cost.

00:54:43.000 You know what man, I remember when I was a lot younger, and when I was like a teenager, I was Catholic for a little bit, Just because I was a little kid.

00:54:50.000 You lost your helicopter hat.

00:54:52.000 So I went to Catholic school up until fifth grade.

00:54:55.000 Time for the helicopters.

00:54:56.000 And then when I was a teenager, I became very... I don't necessarily want to say atheist.

00:55:01.000 Okay. 0.98

00:55:02.000 Kind of agnostic, but very arrogant. 0.96

00:55:04.000 Oh, yeah. 0.96

00:55:04.000 God, yeah. 0.96

00:55:05.000 Like the people on Reddit.

00:55:07.000 Totally, totally.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:08.000 You're so dumb! 1.00

00:55:09.000 You believe in God? 1.00

00:55:11.000 And... Right, but I was, you know, so morally superior to people.

00:55:16.000 But there was a concern about this moral authoritarianism coming from the right, which is now predominantly on the left, and it's the exact same thing.

00:55:25.000 That's why I think it's funny you said, ascribing reason to a fundamentalist faith.

00:55:30.000 But these people are taking over to a degree where—I remember hearing stories about, like, what do I do when my family is ultra-religious and they won't listen to what I'm saying?

00:55:40.000 I have the same problem now in the other direction.

00:55:44.000 It's really interesting because the part of my family that isn't white, they love Trump.

00:55:50.000 Not all of them, of course, but there's a lot of like, you know, they're all like, yeah, Trump's great.

00:55:53.000 And the white people in my family, my extended family, by the way, are SJWs.

00:55:57.000 Oh gosh.

00:55:58.000 Do they hate you?

00:55:59.000 It's the weird, I have no, I doubt it.

00:56:01.000 I don't think they hate me, but they won't engage.

00:56:06.000 So I've tried, like, commenting, like, hey, here's why I disagree with this weird, you know, stuff you're saying.

00:56:11.000 I didn't call them weird, but like— But it's also your outgroup.

00:56:13.000 It's all psychological, because you're from the other side, and it's like, it's not— Not even!

00:56:17.000 Like, look, I'm talking about, like, family members that I would go to Christmas with.

00:56:22.000 And all of a sudden they're posting nightmarish white collectivist ideology. 0.78

00:56:28.000 Right, but I don't think you understand their perspective.

00:56:31.000 Imagine if one of your cousins came and started talking about BDSM. 0.71

00:56:37.000 Maybe it's shrug for you, but I'm saying for some people it'd be like, why are you talking about this?

00:56:41.000 This is at the very least creepy and weird, and I don't want to hear Normal, air quotes people, don't think in these terms.

00:56:48.000 So that is what it's like for them, for their faith, when you're talking about nuance regarding Trump.

00:56:54.000 It's like, this is gross and not part of what I believe.

00:56:57.000 It's not even that.

00:56:58.000 It's like, you know, so I used to work in non-profit fundraising.

00:57:01.000 Okay.

00:57:02.000 So I was very good working for some of these big companies at communicating and, like, sort of opening the doors into people, like, in the sense of we could have a conversation before they recoil in horror.

00:57:13.000 Sure, sure.

00:57:14.000 So, I actually did a lot of trainings to teach people how do you communicate with someone who's not ideologically aligned with you.

00:57:21.000 You need to build rapport with them before anything.

00:57:23.000 So before you go up to them and say, you're crazy and wrong for believing this stuff, you say something that's more rapport building.

00:57:29.000 Simply... You have to play on their turf, not yours.

00:57:31.000 Right.

00:57:31.000 You say, you know, so a common technique is... Where are you from?

00:57:36.000 Brooklyn.

00:57:36.000 Brooklyn!

00:57:37.000 I lived in Brooklyn for five years, dude!

00:57:38.000 Man, they got the best Indian food in Bed-Stuy, and it was this little hole-in-the-wall place.

00:57:42.000 I used to live in, like, Myrtle and Nostrand.

00:57:44.000 You know Myrtle and Nostrand?

00:57:45.000 This is people who don't live in Brooklyn.

00:57:47.000 That's how they talk.

00:57:48.000 I would be running away immediately.

00:57:49.000 Sure, sure, sure.

00:57:50.000 I got you.

00:57:51.000 You know, you're exactly right, because then it's like it's us versus them. 0.88

00:57:53.000 Right, right.

00:57:54.000 So you create a rapport.

00:57:55.000 Yeah.

00:57:56.000 I try saying things like, on their terms, racism is bad.

00:58:01.000 I'm so glad you're opposed to racism.

00:58:03.000 Don't you think it's an issue that white people are forming collective groups?

00:58:07.000 Yeah.

00:58:07.000 And they immediately just, there's no logic.

00:58:09.000 There's no reason.

00:58:11.000 And there's agree with me or get the F off my page.

00:58:13.000 Yes.

00:58:14.000 Yes.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:15.000 They've been trained to act this way.

00:58:17.000 Let me tell you something.

00:58:18.000 You're familiar with Daryl Davis.

00:58:19.000 I'm not.

00:58:20.000 Daryl Davis is the black blues musician who de-radicalized over 200 Klansmen.

00:58:24.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

00:58:25.000 Amazing dude.

00:58:26.000 His story's incredible.

00:58:28.000 I did an event where he was speaking.

00:58:30.000 They threatened to burn the theater down.

00:58:32.000 We do an after event, and he decides to go across the street to the Antifa protesters and talk to them, and they called him a Nazi and a white supremacist and refused, and he is Facebook posting, I've never experienced this.

00:58:44.000 But fossils encourage people to believe in creationism.

00:58:48.000 So the point is, for them, I talk about this in my book as well, for them black is a spiritual state.

00:58:55.000 That's why Bill Clinton is the first black president and Clarence Thomas is not black. 0.67

00:59:00.000 You laugh, but it has an internal logic to it.

00:59:02.000 I know, I know, I know.

00:59:03.000 In the same way for Catholics, right? 0.92

00:59:05.000 The Eucharist, the wafer, literally becomes Christ's bones and the wine literally becomes his blood.

00:59:11.000 I think that's the Catholics who do that. 0.97

00:59:13.000 Literally, you are no longer black and literally you are black if you are saved from the sin of racism.

00:59:21.000 And once you realize that's how they look at things, everything else makes much more sense. 0.87

00:59:25.000 I find it hilarious when white people attack black people calling racial slurs and these anti-protesters.

00:59:32.000 I don't think it's funny at all. 0.91

00:59:34.000 Well, I don't mean funny haha.

00:59:36.000 I mean funny as in unusual and unnerving.

00:59:40.000 You know what it is?

00:59:40.000 I've done so much work with North Korea and the former Soviet Union and how these totalitarian ideologies work.

00:59:46.000 That when I see even the slightest bit of it, it really makes me recoil.

00:59:53.000 And it's just like, this gets very bad very quickly, and I don't find it cute at all.

00:59:58.000 Like, I get why you do, I just personally don't.

01:00:00.000 I'm not, but I am on the verge of laughing because you're wearing this hat with the helicopter on it, and you're talking about the Soviet Union, North Koreans, Gulag, you know, kind of stuff.

01:00:10.000 The helicopters solve that problem in Chile.

01:00:13.000 Are you at all concerned this undermines, or actually maybe it helps?

01:00:17.000 No, this is very good because it alienates people who can only see things visually and viscerally, and those are not the people I want on my side. 0.98

01:00:24.000 I want people who are able to hear ideas and think critically, so this is actually a good filtering device for alienating people I wouldn't want to be able to be engaged with.

01:00:32.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:00:33.000 The crazy thing about the Daryl Davis circumstance was that he could walk up to a Klansman And they'd be like, whoa.

01:00:40.000 And he'd be like, how's it going?

01:00:41.000 They'd be like, hi.

01:00:42.000 And they'd talk.

01:00:43.000 He couldn't do that with these far leftists. 1.00

01:00:45.000 But the Klansman is ignorant. 0.98

01:00:46.000 And had been taught a bunch of ideas, which is based on not, it's very hard to be racist or homophobic or anti-semitic or any of these other things if you know people from that group. 0.99

01:00:46.000 Right. 0.99

01:00:58.000 One of the best ways that gay rights got over was what I call like the ambassador program. 1.00

01:00:58.000 Right. 1.00

01:01:03.000 Because as more and more gay people came out and you were like, blah, blah, blah, they're coming after kids. 1.00

01:01:06.000 You're like, That's my uncle.

01:01:09.000 He loves my nephew.

01:01:10.000 That is personal.

01:01:12.000 This happened a lot with Europe, with the Jews. 0.89

01:01:14.000 It's like, that's my lawyer, or whatever.

01:01:18.000 You could say certain bad things about him.

01:01:19.000 The fact that he's evil?

01:01:20.000 I'm not hearing this, not even for a second.

01:01:24.000 For the clan, there's some people who it gives them status, who are low-status men, and now they have a cause.

01:01:31.000 Let me just finish real quickly.

01:01:32.000 They meet the guy.

01:01:33.000 He's like, this guy's a cool dude.

01:01:35.000 This is a fundamentalist faith.

01:01:38.000 It is a very different paradigm, in my opinion.

01:01:40.000 I was going to say, that's exactly what Daryl said.

01:01:42.000 Okay.

01:01:42.000 That when he would talk to these Klansmen and they would hang out, later when these guys were at the meetings and they would say these things about black people, he'd go, that's not at all like Daryl.

01:01:50.000 Daryl doesn't act that way.

01:01:52.000 As long as you have one, your entire narrative falls apart.

01:01:54.000 Yeah, but then in terms of the fundamentalist faith, I guess the shield is don't ever talk or listen to anybody.

01:02:04.000 Of course, because that's Satan in the apple.

01:02:07.000 Because they're going to tempt you into faith, into sin. 0.54

01:02:09.000 of sin. They're sending temptation to make you fall away.

01:02:14.000 You need to stay with us and remain pure, whereas that is the impurity and that's the

01:02:19.000 slippery slope. One day you're listening to Ben Shapiro, the next day you know Mein Kampf

01:02:23.000 inside and out, as the New York Times told us. But they're told this with a straight

01:02:26.000 face. By a reputable New York Times, no one's going to deny the New York Times a great

01:02:30.000 reputation. And the New York Times is telling me on A1 that if I'm reading Ben Shapiro

01:02:35.000 on Monday, I'm going to be getting swastika tattoos on Saturday.

01:02:38.000 Are you saying the New York Times doesn't know what it's talking about?

01:02:41.000 You call Mr. Propellerhead?

01:02:44.000 You refer to the media as the cathedral.

01:02:47.000 The cathedral is broader than the media.

01:02:48.000 The cathedral is the universities, the media and entertainment, and the government.

01:02:52.000 And so this is but this is like the leftist SAW fundamentalists.

01:02:55.000 It's actually a progressive faith that has its roots in the social gospel of Woodrow Wilson and even a little earlier.

01:03:00.000 Yes.

01:03:01.000 And this has been the governing as I talk in my book.

01:03:05.000 People think America is a secular society.

01:03:07.000 America is a more religious society than ever.

01:03:09.000 Just because a religion doesn't have a monotheist central god, Buddhism doesn't have that.

01:03:14.000 That does not make it any less of a faith.

01:03:17.000 They have their rituals, they have their televangelists who tell them what to think, Rachel Maddow, John Oliver, and very, this is literally a religion, they go on their Facebook and spread that day's sermon to all their congregants, and you're coming into their church and telling, hold on a minute, This is church! 0.99

01:03:34.000 Sit down and shut up! 0.99

01:03:35.000 We know what we're told, because you're going to tell me that this man of the cloth is wrong, or this lesbian of the cloth is wrong? 1.00

01:03:42.000 You don't know what you're talking about, and I'm offended that you would dare come in here and try to spit your sin in my house of purity.

01:03:50.000 I think it's Peter Boghossian who refers to it as a non-theistic religion.

01:03:54.000 Yes, it is absolutely a fundamentalist evangelical faith.

01:03:57.000 I was having a conversation with a prominent online lefty a few years ago, and I was explaining that I view these people as a cult.

01:04:07.000 And then I said, you know, we had a discussion about it, and there's like these rules of cult-hood.

01:04:11.000 Sure.

01:04:12.000 And, you know, having like a figure.

01:04:14.000 Yeah.

01:04:14.000 So I was like, so maybe it's more of a religion.

01:04:16.000 Yes.

01:04:17.000 This individual, you know, disagreed with me.

01:04:19.000 A couple years later, they came back and said everything they experienced with religion was very, very similar to what they're experiencing now, and it's freaking them out.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:04:28.000 And here's the other thing I want people to appreciate.

01:04:30.000 This is something I have enormous disdain for conservatives are.

01:04:33.000 Do not take people and give them your children to raise. 0.70

01:04:38.000 Eight days, five days a week, who are, they're training their children to hate you.

01:04:45.000 They, socialists regard your property as their property, but even more nefariously, they

01:04:50.000 regard your children as their property.

01:04:52.000 You see they're getting resentful that there might be cameras in these classrooms.

01:04:56.000 And it is a very sick, and this has been by design, they talk about making good citizens.

01:05:01.000 Making good citizens is a euphemism for breaking young minds and making them submissive and obedient and to have their self-esteem come from an external source, namely that mediocre man or woman at the front of the room who your approval is based on whether they give you a grade and it's based on whether they like you or not more often than not. 0.95

01:05:23.000 horrible prussian 1.00

01:05:25.000 evil system that's been going up a hundred years and that is something that

01:05:28.000 really needs to be the next front line among people who are school care about

01:05:32.000 their kids now i've just as a more thing a lot of people don't have the option to

01:05:35.000 go to private school of course that's where the fight needs to happen that

01:05:39.000 money has to follow the kid there need to be more choices for poor people i was

01:05:42.000 gonna ask you a school choice i mean i i'm up for school abolition i say i i

01:05:47.000 have i have said i agree I have said many times, public schools are literal prisons for children and the only place many people will ever encounter violence in their lifetimes.

01:05:57.000 And we're told, this is a really sick one, It's good that you're bullied because it prepares you for real life.

01:06:03.000 There is nowhere in real life where you are trapped for years with someone who is engaged in psychological warfare or physical warfare against you, other than perhaps an extremely abusive marriage.

01:06:15.000 And in that case, there are many venues to help you escape it and transition to a healthy life.

01:06:22.000 Whereas here, there's every chance to close the door and make sure you do not escape.

01:06:28.000 It is depraved.

01:06:29.000 And what if the bully is your teacher?

01:06:32.000 No, no, I've said this also.

01:06:33.000 The teachers are the bullies.

01:06:34.000 The teacher's job is to break your spirit and make you submissive and obedient.

01:06:38.000 I had some good teachers.

01:06:40.000 I'm sure you did have some.

01:06:42.000 Here are some things that we just take for granted.

01:06:47.000 Why is it that everyone has to learn in the same way?

01:06:50.000 Why is it that everyone has to be on the same timetable?

01:06:52.000 Because there are periods of life in corporate America where everyone just checks in at 9 o'clock, which makes no sense when you're self-employed.

01:06:57.000 Why is it that everyone has to learn the same things at the same rate?

01:07:00.000 None of these things make sense in a contemporary context, but we still do them.

01:07:04.000 I agree!

01:07:05.000 Abolish school.

01:07:06.000 Yes!

01:07:06.000 Abolish public schools.

01:07:07.000 End the government monopoly on schools.

01:07:09.000 I was homeschooled before kindergarten.

01:07:12.000 Okay.

01:07:13.000 As long as I can literally remember and fathom a thought, my mom was homeschooling me and my siblings.

01:07:18.000 That's wonderful.

01:07:19.000 When I started school, I was just far ahead.

01:07:23.000 Of course, because you basically had a tutor who loved you.

01:07:26.000 This is like the ideal scenario.

01:07:28.000 So it's really funny, when I was in first grade, there was a math game called Around the World.

01:07:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:32.000 Where, are you familiar with the game?

01:07:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:34.000 You stand up, then you stand behind the next desk, and the teacher gives you a flash card.

01:07:39.000 Whoever answers first gets to move to the next desk.

01:07:41.000 If you're standing and you get it wrong, you sit down in their seat.

01:07:44.000 Yeah.

01:07:45.000 I'd never lose.

01:07:46.000 Neither would my brother.

01:07:47.000 And so it got to a point where they would ask us not to play it.

01:07:49.000 Because no one was faster than us at solving these simple, you know, mathematical equations.

01:07:53.000 Like, just basic addition, multiplication, division.

01:07:56.000 I ended up being just like the best, like straight A's across the board.

01:08:01.000 And then I remember when I left Catholic school, went to public school, all of a sudden it was very different.

01:08:07.000 Now, I think the problem I had with Catholic school, and I'm grateful for my experience, was that the Catholic school was so uptight. 0.92

01:08:14.000 Everybody walked around with sticks up their butts.

01:08:16.000 Like, kids would cry if they stubbed their toe.

01:08:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:19.000 It was, like, ridiculously weak.

01:08:21.000 The public school was the exact opposite. 0.50

01:08:23.000 It was chaos.

01:08:24.000 Like, these kids were doing nasty stuff.

01:08:27.000 Just, you know, there was gang activity and things like that.

01:08:30.000 And so I got to experience a little bit of both, but my parents had actively been teaching me before, during, and after.

01:08:37.000 When I left, the reason I went to high school for about two months, I think, or a few months, I left partly because I was lied to every step of the way.

01:08:47.000 In 8th grade, they were like, look, look, I know you're upset and unhappy here and you're being held back because you're smarter and everybody and all that stuff.

01:08:54.000 Grade-wise, not like, you know, I was a genius at, you know, 8 years old, or I mean 12 years old.

01:08:58.000 But then they said, when you go to high school, there's going to be... Everything's gonna be different.

01:09:03.000 You're gonna learn the truth about all this, you know, stuff.

01:09:06.000 You know, about history.

01:09:07.000 They're gonna get more in-depth. 0.97

01:09:09.000 And then I got there and it was the exact same garbage. 0.77

01:09:11.000 And so I was like, I'm not going. 0.92

01:09:11.000 Yep. 0.92

01:09:13.000 And I went from straight A's to straight F's.

01:09:15.000 Yeah.

01:09:16.000 And that's when my parents freaked out and they're like, something's wrong here.

01:09:18.000 Yeah.

01:09:19.000 And then I went back to homeschooling.

01:09:21.000 And so... You're very lucky.

01:09:22.000 We did this correspondence program I never finished.

01:09:25.000 I never got my diploma.

01:09:26.000 Never got a GED.

01:09:27.000 And I had this very easy realization when I was young.

01:09:33.000 The concept of wealth, wealth transfer, and value is simple.

01:09:39.000 The person sitting in front of me is holding a green piece of paper.

01:09:42.000 How do I convince them to let me hold that green piece of paper? 1.00

01:09:45.000 Everything else was irrelevant in terms of all these stupid arguments. 0.99

01:09:49.000 It was simply a discussion of, hello good sir, may I have that dollar? 1.00

01:09:53.000 And they might say yes, and I was like, wow!

01:09:55.000 And now I have money.

01:09:56.000 I can do whatever I want with it.

01:09:57.000 And that's how you start a business.

01:09:59.000 And that's the fundamental aspect of entrepreneurship.

01:10:02.000 But look, my family were entrepreneurs.

01:10:05.000 My dad ran side businesses.

01:10:07.000 My mom was tutoring and things like that.

01:10:07.000 He was a firefighter.

01:10:10.000 My grandpa had his own business.

01:10:11.000 And so I was very lucky in that regard.

01:10:13.000 And having a mom who, you know, she tutored me.

01:10:17.000 I watched my friends go to college.

01:10:19.000 They get indoctrinated.

01:10:20.000 It's horrifying.

01:10:21.000 They believe all these fanciful lies.

01:10:24.000 You're gonna go to college.

01:10:25.000 You're gonna get $50,000 in debt, but you'll be making $100,000 a year when you graduate, and then they go work at Starbucks.

01:10:32.000 I remember when I was, I think I was like 16 or 17.

01:10:36.000 My dad did want me to go to college, and I started reading this economist who wrote an article saying, If you go to any investor and say, for $40,000 in four years you'll be $40,000 in debt plus interest, they'll laugh in your face.

01:10:49.000 That's not even a real proposition.

01:10:51.000 Yet we do this to all of these college students all day.

01:10:55.000 So I learned something really interesting later on in life when I was probably around like 25 or 26.

01:11:00.000 So this is when I started covering You know, I was on the ground covering Occupy Wall Street.

01:11:04.000 I had a rising profile.

01:11:05.000 I had, you know, offers for work and stuff, but I was kind of doing my thing.

01:11:08.000 And I had a friend who told me a story about he tried hiring people for his job.

01:11:13.000 He initially hired college students, but found they were incapable of doing this kind of work because they struggled and always needed direction, could never solve a problem on their own.

01:11:21.000 He went through a few rounds of these employees not understanding what was wrong.

01:11:24.000 And then finally, when he was broke and he said, I can't afford these kids anymore.

01:11:27.000 I'll just hire someone hourly.

01:11:29.000 Problem solved.

01:11:30.000 And the people he had hired for Hourly moved to California to become actors.

01:11:34.000 And what he said was, I think these kids, they dropped out of high school, they made a decision for themselves.

01:11:40.000 I need to go here to accomplish my goals.

01:11:42.000 Whereas these other college kids were only people who had ever done what they were told to do.

01:11:46.000 Oh yeah, of course.

01:11:47.000 Because now they've been initiated into this, it's a caste system.

01:11:51.000 I think it's been demonstrated, I don't have the study in front of me obviously, that by far the biggest divide in America isn't between race, it's between college graduates and non-college graduates.

01:12:01.000 And historically it's been like, okay, now this is kind of your entree into a certain stratus of society.

01:12:07.000 Thankfully, people like you and many others are demonstrating that this is a relic of history.

01:12:13.000 It's very hard to teach people, although it's increasingly easy, That it used to be the American dream, the GI Bill, right?

01:12:20.000 No one in my family ever went to college.

01:12:22.000 My son's going to college.

01:12:22.000 My daughter's going to college.

01:12:23.000 This was a major accomplishment.

01:12:25.000 This is objective proof that our family is getting better, that our kids have it better than us.

01:12:30.000 So it's very hard to knock that idea of these people's heads and be like, you're paying a lot of money for your beautiful teenage daughter to go away and to come back as a swamp walrus.

01:12:41.000 with unnatural hair, who loathes and despises you, and will feel comfortable berating grandma at Thanksgiving dinner because she doesn't know how to pronounce the pronoun X-I-R. 0.84

01:12:54.000 Yes.

01:12:55.000 I think I figured it out.

01:12:56.000 I have a theory.

01:12:57.000 Okay.

01:12:58.000 G.I. 0.50

01:12:59.000 Bill.

01:12:59.000 That's a good point.

01:13:01.000 People came back from World War II.

01:13:02.000 Yeah.

01:13:02.000 And they were high school graduates, no degrees, and they raised families.

01:13:05.000 Yes.

01:13:06.000 So then you have the kids of the greatest generation.

01:13:09.000 Was it the Boomers?

01:13:09.000 Yeah, that was the Boomers.

01:13:13.000 So the Boomers, they are growing up in this world where they were raised by a high school graduate. 0.55

01:13:18.000 They're not told to go to college because you can raise a family with a high school degree.

01:13:23.000 A bunch of these kids become managers and become mid-level managers and they run stores and businesses and they're making okay money.

01:13:31.000 But then they look at their siblings.

01:13:33.000 They're making six figures, and this is back in the, you know, the 80s.

01:13:35.000 How are they making so much money?

01:13:36.000 They went to college.

01:13:38.000 Right.

01:13:38.000 I should have gone to college.

01:13:39.000 Yes.

01:13:40.000 Then they tell their kids, you have to go to college.

01:13:41.000 Yes.

01:13:42.000 Because your uncle did, and look how much money he made.

01:13:45.000 Yes.

01:13:45.000 But they're missing something.

01:13:47.000 Just one more thing.

01:13:47.000 And he looks down on us, and I get why he does.

01:13:50.000 They're missing something.

01:13:51.000 What?

01:13:52.000 If you were never told you had to go to college, and you chose to go to college, you made a decision for yourself, and you were pursuing your passion.

01:14:00.000 Sure.

01:14:01.000 It wasn't college that made them wealthy.

01:14:02.000 It was their own passion and drive.

01:14:04.000 And college was just them saying, what's the next step in becoming an architect or whatever.

01:14:09.000 Now they've told all these kids to succeed, you must go to college.

01:14:13.000 And those kids don't care and don't know, and they take out massive loans, and they go to school and say, uh-huh.

01:14:18.000 And then the guys, the school says, well, we recommend, I guess, I don't know, you want to be a journalist?

01:14:24.000 Uh-huh.

01:14:24.000 Well, put them in journalism.

01:14:25.000 There you go.

01:14:26.000 Congratulations.

01:14:26.000 If the public education system worked as planned, you wouldn't need to go to college, because that high school diploma would be proof Not just evidence, proof to most companies that this guy can do, or girl, can do a great job on day one, that they are skilled, and this is a certificate that has meaning.

01:14:44.000 The fact that a high school graduate is absolutely meaningless in our day and age, including possibly being illiterate, is now like, okay, well now this is a degree that counts.

01:14:52.000 What they ignore, even if they had the best of interests, which I do not think for a second, is that this is another four years where this person is not an economic benefit to the culture.

01:15:03.000 He's not, he or she's not working, they're students, they're net loss to the economy.

01:15:07.000 So that's what, instead of going from 1 to 17 where they're not producers, now it's 1 to 21.

01:15:13.000 Four years in terms of an adult's working life span is a significant chunk of that change for them not to be in the job market.

01:15:21.000 And this is an economic cost that they just pretend doesn't matter.

01:15:23.000 You know what kids need?

01:15:25.000 What?

01:15:25.000 Jobs.

01:15:26.000 Yes, yes.

01:15:27.000 It gives them self-esteem. 0.99

01:15:29.000 I said this in as a vague way as possible to trigger as many of these stupid people, but my family, my mom opened a cafe when I was, I think, nine. 0.98

01:15:38.000 And so from nine to eleven, I worked at my family business. 0.98

01:15:42.000 You must have been adorable.

01:15:43.000 Did you have the beanie?

01:15:43.000 Absolutely.

01:15:45.000 No.

01:15:46.000 I had a Tasmanian Devil baseball cap.

01:15:48.000 Did you?

01:15:48.000 Oh my god!

01:15:49.000 How cute!

01:15:50.000 I love it.

01:15:51.000 So I worked the register.

01:15:53.000 My mom would show me some of the management stuff.

01:15:56.000 And we would serve, uh, I would make drinks.

01:15:58.000 So I was nine and I knew how to make, uh, an espresso, cappuccino, all this stuff.

01:16:02.000 While I was in sixth grade.

01:16:04.000 And guess what else?

01:16:05.000 What?

01:16:06.000 I had cash.

01:16:07.000 I bought my very own Game Boy and Pokemon Red on my own.

01:16:11.000 From the tip jar.

01:16:12.000 I don't know who invented Pokemon Red.

01:16:14.000 I'm just trying to figure out how to get Pokemon Red to the polls.

01:16:18.000 Wait, wait, I gotta ask you though.

01:16:20.000 When you're nine and you're working the register, it's the cutest thing ever.

01:16:24.000 Some people loved it, some people hated it.

01:16:26.000 Oh, people, I mean, people were fawning over you all the time?

01:16:29.000 Uh, I mean, it was in Boys Town.

01:16:32.000 Okay.

01:16:32.000 And so you had gay men and women being like, this is the most darling thing ever.

01:16:37.000 And they'd go to my mom and be like, that's so cute.

01:16:39.000 Oh my God.

01:16:39.000 He's such a grown up.

01:16:40.000 And then there were, the guys didn't care.

01:16:42.000 They'd be like, thanks for the coffee.

01:16:43.000 And they'd leave.

01:16:44.000 But there was a couple people would be like, why is there a kid making my coffee?

01:16:47.000 But typically, the women would come in and they'd be smiling. 0.91

01:16:51.000 Of course.

01:16:51.000 And that's why I made Mad Tips.

01:16:53.000 Because you must have been so conscientious, too.

01:16:54.000 I know, right?

01:16:55.000 No, I didn't think at all.

01:16:57.000 I was probably not even sentient.

01:16:59.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, but you were still basically doing the job correctly, I'm sure.

01:17:02.000 And you knew what you were doing.

01:17:04.000 So it's kind of like you tell a kid and the kid delivers.

01:17:06.000 It's kind of impressive.

01:17:07.000 I know, it is.

01:17:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:08.000 I love it.

01:17:09.000 So it was a family business.

01:17:10.000 My mom would be there.

01:17:11.000 My dad would be there.

01:17:12.000 And I made my own money.

01:17:14.000 And when there was no one at the counter, It's like there was a counter and then there would be a table, you know, so I'd come out from- I'd sit down, I'd been playing Pokemon, and- or I'd be sitting next to my mom and her friends and they'd be talking politics.

01:17:26.000 And then I would- Oh.

01:17:27.000 And I'm sitting right there.

01:17:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:17:29.000 Sitting around a bunch of adults, working a real job, learning how to actually live.

01:17:33.000 Yes.

01:17:34.000 And so I remember when I was in sixth grade, they were trying to raise money

01:17:38.000 for a present for the teacher.

01:17:40.000 And they were like, everyone's trying to pitch in a dollar.

01:17:42.000 And I walked up and I was like, how much do you need?

01:17:44.000 And I pulled out a wad of cash.

01:17:45.000 It was like 30 bucks, but for like, for some reason I'm like, all in singles.

01:17:51.000 And I had a bunch of pennies, nickels, and quarters.

01:17:53.000 My uncle Jeffrey Epstein gave me this.

01:17:55.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

01:17:56.000 Who's he, the guy from Wall Street?

01:17:59.000 And then I pull out a dollar and I'm like, here you go.

01:18:02.000 And then I remember this one girl in my class, she was like, how do you have so much money?

01:18:06.000 And I was like, I have a job.

01:18:08.000 I go to work and my family's business on the weekends.

01:18:10.000 And it wasn't a bad thing.

01:18:12.000 Like I didn't go like, I have to go to work on the weekend.

01:18:15.000 It was like, my mom would be like, hey, come to the coffee house. 0.99

01:18:18.000 And I'd be like, okay.

01:18:19.000 And guess what?

01:18:19.000 I would take the bus and the train by myself across the city.

01:18:22.000 Do you know Lenore Skenazy?

01:18:24.000 I do not.

01:18:24.000 She has a book called Free Range Kids because what she did, she was called the worst mom of the year because she gave her son like a dollar and told him find your way home in New York City.

01:18:35.000 And at first he was freaked, but then when he figured out how to do it, he was like, oh my God, I know how to navigate New York.

01:18:41.000 And the point she makes is these stories about kidnappings, which was an issue with like Charles Lindbergh in the 20s or whatever it was.

01:18:47.000 Now it's not the case.

01:18:48.000 Maybe it's the case now with de Blasio.

01:18:49.000 I can't speak on that.

01:18:50.000 But she's like the people in busy areas are look if there's a kid. 0.99

01:18:55.000 People are watching to make sure this kid is safe and if like are you okay little boy whatever so on and so forth So she talks about this very extensively and how healthy it is as opposed to public schools where your entire mental health is exported to that Mediocre person from the room where it's like I'm at 9 at 10 11 I'm old enough and big enough to figure out my way around this city and I can handle myself No one's around me to help me and I think that's such an empowering message to the kids who aren't you know dismembered and One of the, like, I guess most powerful revelations kids have is, I can't believe I had to ask to go to the bathroom.

01:19:31.000 Oh, that's the other one.

01:19:32.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 I never did.

01:19:33.000 Do you know what happened to me in second grade?

01:19:35.000 You don't know.

01:19:36.000 I don't?

01:19:36.000 No.

01:19:37.000 I forget.

01:19:38.000 It's been a long time since we did.

01:19:39.000 It's in my biography, Ego and Hubris, which costs $100 on eBay now.

01:19:43.000 Second grade, this is one of those stories which really solidified my absolute contempt for these people.

01:19:50.000 You had to go with a buddy to the bathroom, right?

01:19:52.000 I get it, like you don't want the kids wandering around the halls by themselves, sure, excuse me.

01:19:56.000 And Miss Jaeger, who's not an attractive woman, I remember that very vividly, she looked like the Skeksis from Dark Crystal. 1.00

01:20:02.000 I went with David Gaba, and we went to the bathroom, and it was one of the things like, you know what, I don't really need to go.

01:20:08.000 So I took some water, the water fountain came back, and she's like, oh, what happened?

01:20:12.000 Why are you so quick?

01:20:12.000 And me or him told the truth, like, oh, I didn't go to the bathroom.

01:20:16.000 And she punished me by saying I'm not allowed to go to the bathroom anymore. 1.00

01:20:19.000 And then one day I peed my pants.

01:20:22.000 And it was, you know, you're a kid, this is traumatizing.

01:20:25.000 And we almost got her fired. 0.98

01:20:26.000 Wow.

01:20:27.000 But it's just like, it's absolutely demented that you have to ask approval to go... I'm not a dog.

01:20:33.000 You know, you know, I was lucky for... And now I pee my pants all the time.

01:20:37.000 Oh gosh.

01:20:37.000 I know.

01:20:38.000 Oh, here we go.

01:20:39.000 Here we go.

01:20:41.000 We'll just get somebody to clean that up later. 0.98

01:20:42.000 Oh gosh, darn it. 0.98

01:20:43.000 You didn't need to. 0.99

01:20:44.000 I remember when I was probably like seven and I had to wake up at 6.30 because school started at seven.

01:20:52.000 Wake up at 6.30, you know, get washed up, get your backpack, grab a bite, and then run to school.

01:20:57.000 I think school started at 7.30 or something like that.

01:20:58.000 And I remember being really unhappy and going, I don't want to go to school.

01:21:03.000 And my dad goes, then don't go.

01:21:04.000 And I went, what?

01:21:05.000 And he goes, don't go.

01:21:06.000 And I was like, but I have to go to school.

01:21:08.000 And he goes, says who?

01:21:09.000 And I was like, I have to go to school.

01:21:11.000 And he's like, your choice.

01:21:13.000 And then I went to school and I was like, I have to.

01:21:16.000 And that was, I think that was really a really smart thing to say to me.

01:21:21.000 Because I knew my responsibilities.

01:21:23.000 And I was like, I can't not go to school.

01:21:26.000 I could, he's right.

01:21:28.000 My dad was saying, if I didn't, if I didn't, I have to choose.

01:21:31.000 And I chose responsibility.

01:21:32.000 And so I went and did that, and that was kind of, you know, I think it's lessons like that.

01:21:37.000 And that's why I became a high school dropout.

01:21:39.000 And it is.

01:21:40.000 It is, absolutely.

01:21:42.000 And it's also why I have a successful podcast.

01:21:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:44.000 It's all part of this.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:21:46.000 Because you know when to cut your losses.

01:21:48.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:21:49.000 You know, like, this is not providing value to me.

01:21:51.000 I know what I'm worth.

01:21:52.000 Why am I here?

01:21:53.000 You know what it is, too, though?

01:21:55.000 And this is all... Man, I really am grateful to my parents.

01:21:59.000 My mom tutored me and homeschooled me and gave me the perspicacity to function properly.

01:22:06.000 I learned that from the Simpsons, by the way, from Lisa Simpson, the word perspicacity.

01:22:09.000 My dad gave me an understanding of the balance between responsibility and freedom.

01:22:15.000 Another story that I have is I was driving in the car with my dad and we saw what looked like a homeless guy riding a bike.

01:22:21.000 And he looked awful, disheveled, pulling like a little cart full of garbage.

01:22:26.000 And I said something like, oh, that's sad. 0.98

01:22:28.000 And he goes, what is?

01:22:29.000 And I was like, that man.

01:22:30.000 And he goes, why is that sad?

01:22:31.000 And I was like, cause he's homeless.

01:22:33.000 I think we're the happiest guy in the world for all you know.

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:35.000 And I was like, oh yeah.

01:22:36.000 He taught you empathy.

01:22:37.000 You have to, not everything's from your own perspective, something different, different perspectives.

01:22:41.000 And so then, I think what made me drop out was not cutting my losses, was I need to decide for myself, and I need to figure out what I need to do, and no one's gonna do for me.

01:22:51.000 And it's really interesting how that translates into the work I do here on YouTube, and podcasting in general.

01:22:56.000 I mean, the podcast is on a bunch of other platforms as well.

01:22:59.000 But so many people have this view in their mind that you must be lifted up by someone else, and they use jobs and opportunities as stepping stones.

01:23:07.000 Like, hey Tim, you know Joe Rogan, right?

01:23:10.000 Can you put in a show?

01:23:11.000 Psst, no. 0.79

01:23:12.000 It's never gonna happen.

01:23:13.000 Dude, don't hit me up.

01:23:14.000 I got an email from someone saying, Tim, we'd really love to get this high-profile guest on your show.

01:23:19.000 And I'm talking high-profile, and I'm like, wow!

01:23:22.000 And then they email, we're really looking to these dates, and we just wanna know, real quick, did you have Joe's email? 0.97

01:23:26.000 I'm just like, into the trash you go.

01:23:27.000 I deal with my own business. 0.94

01:23:29.000 I do my thing.

01:23:30.000 I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, you know, you're not coming here for a stepping stone.

01:23:34.000 These people don't realize this.

01:23:35.000 If you want to succeed- I came here for a stepping stone.

01:23:38.000 I don't believe it.

01:23:38.000 Did you not?

01:23:39.000 Do you have Joe Rogan's email?

01:23:41.000 Maybe I'll be on- For you!

01:23:41.000 Yes!

01:23:43.000 Maybe I'll be on one day.

01:23:46.000 My advice to people is mind your own business.

01:23:50.000 And I don't mean that in the sense like don't talk to people, don't network.

01:23:54.000 I'm saying work hard and figure it out for yourself.

01:23:59.000 And people will be glad to introduce you to other people.

01:24:01.000 Because if there's someone who would be a great guest on this show, I wouldn't have... I would not have... If someone asked me to get in touch with you, I wouldn't do it.

01:24:08.000 But if I knew someone who I knew you'd be a good guest, you wouldn't have to ask me.

01:24:11.000 I'd be like, Tim, you should check this person out.

01:24:13.000 You could say yes or no, but you wouldn't also feel weird that I recommended someone who you could see as possibly a potential guest.

01:24:19.000 A lot of people... I think... It's so transparent, though.

01:24:22.000 They're so heavy-handed with it.

01:24:24.000 It's despicable.

01:24:25.000 And these are...

01:24:27.000 Look, when I look at the SJW types, they go to school, they're told what to do.

01:24:33.000 I've tried working with these people, man.

01:24:35.000 Look, I think the hiring process has to be extremely rigorous.

01:24:38.000 Yes.

01:24:40.000 And a lot of these people that I've worked with can solve no problem.

01:24:46.000 I mean, they're NPCs in regards to where you're like, take this, and hit that rock.

01:24:51.000 And they will!

01:24:52.000 But I don't need to hire someone to do something I know how to do.

01:24:55.000 It's critical theory, not critical thought.

01:24:57.000 I just thought of that, and whoever else uses it, you gotta credit me.

01:25:01.000 But that's a good way of conceptualizing it.

01:25:04.000 But there's another aspect to that, too.

01:25:06.000 There are other people who are not SJWs who spent their entire lives in school, then college, and they went to, like, good private schools.

01:25:14.000 They're still people who are guided, you know, with someone in front of them saying, now you do this, now you do this.

01:25:19.000 Bluepill people.

01:25:20.000 They think every screen is a window.

01:25:22.000 But I'm talking about even conservatives, too.

01:25:25.000 Many conservatives are completely blue-pilled.

01:25:27.000 Absolutely. 0.98

01:25:27.000 If you think that Candace Owens and Trump, if you sit down with a black person who's a lawyer and you tell them you're on a plantation and this is going to end well for you and is appropriate, you're blue-pilled and deranged. 0.98

01:25:40.000 Wait, say that one more time. 0.99

01:25:40.000 If you do the Candace Owens thing, you sit down with a black person who's a lawyer and say, you're on a plantation, you should vote Republican, that this is something that's appropriate or that they're going to be receptive to, you're a crazy person. 0.99

01:25:51.000 I certainly think she's had an impact, to be fair. 0.96

01:25:54.000 Sure.

01:25:55.000 Well, assuming the polls are correct, I think there's a lot of... What's Trump's support among black Americans right now?

01:26:00.000 So there are four polls that put it around 30%.

01:26:03.000 Approval rating or intent to vote?

01:26:04.000 So Rasmussen has likely voter approval.

01:26:08.000 I know, right, right, right.

01:26:08.000 That's not the same.

01:26:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:10.000 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the approved rating is 30%.

01:26:13.000 But my point is, I don't think that's an effective... You were earlier talking about convincing someone to give you money.

01:26:19.000 I don't think someone who is at all successful, if you talk to them as a white person and say you're on a plantation, this is going to be grounds for further conversation. 0.84

01:26:29.000 Right, of course, of course.

01:26:30.000 The Socratic method.

01:26:31.000 Yes.

01:26:32.000 Ask them to just define their positions.

01:26:33.000 Yeah, like what is it about him?

01:26:35.000 How do we turn this no into a yes?

01:26:37.000 What is it about him that you hate the most?

01:26:39.000 What is it about him that you like the most or are most comfortable with?

01:26:42.000 I can tell you it's not even the most effective way that we used to do for fundraising.

01:26:49.000 You never tell them where you want them to go.

01:26:51.000 You build a rapport with them and then put them in a position where their only option is to go in the direction you want.

01:26:56.000 Okay.

01:26:57.000 But give them the illusion of choice, I'm sure.

01:26:58.000 So right.

01:26:59.000 So an example would be once you've built that rapport and they view you as the same as them.

01:27:05.000 So, hey, we both supported Obama.

01:27:07.000 High five.

01:27:08.000 Yeah, man.

01:27:09.000 Wasn't Obama a great president?

01:27:10.000 Isn't Trump so bad?

01:27:11.000 Then you say something like, you know, one of the best things about Obama.

01:27:15.000 And then you go on to cite his foreign policy record.

01:27:16.000 Yeah.

01:27:17.000 And something the average person's gonna be like, that is nightmarish.

01:27:21.000 You force them to criticize Obama.

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 Because you liked it.

01:27:24.000 Yeah.

01:27:25.000 But Obama did a bunch of really bad foreign policy stuff that if I said, I don't want those quotes taken out of context.

01:27:30.000 You know, I'm sure you know, like drone strike, Abdul Rahman Awlaki.

01:27:33.000 Of course, the Iran stuff.

01:27:35.000 Oh, totally.

01:27:36.000 You endorse that to somebody and you'll force them to back away.

01:27:39.000 So these are tricks and manipulation.

01:27:40.000 And it's one of the reasons I didn't want to work in fundraising because you have to.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:45.000 In sales.

01:27:46.000 You can't be honest with people, because people will react emotionally.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, you're manipulating them towards a goal that they're not aware that is their goal.

01:27:54.000 I didn't last very long at any one of these companies, to be completely honest, because I felt like I could go to any one of these non-profits and finally find the place where I could be honest.

01:28:02.000 And I did.

01:28:03.000 And I remember one time I was pitching a guy on a homeless shelter. 0.93

01:28:08.000 And the charitable rate to administrative rate was 50-50, which is garbage for a non-profit.

01:28:14.000 Like, the good non-profits, 90% of your dollar, 90 cents, goes to the charitable cause.

01:28:18.000 Okay, wow.

01:28:19.000 Isn't there a website that tells you which charities are good and which ones are bad?

01:28:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:22.000 And the big ones are usually bad.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, like Susan Coleman is not notoriously bad.

01:28:26.000 I don't know.

01:28:27.000 I think so.

01:28:28.000 Like, they pay the CEO a massive salary.

01:28:31.000 And there's arguments for why they do that, because they have to be competitive with good leaders, and they are businesses.

01:28:35.000 But I remember a guy saying, you mean to tell me if I give you a buck, 50 cents is gonna go into a manager's pocket?

01:28:41.000 And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, but look at the other number.

01:28:43.000 See that?

01:28:44.000 That number that went to the kids?

01:28:45.000 Could be zero.

01:28:46.000 And he went, oh no.

01:28:48.000 I'm like, right, look, we got to pay for the company, man.

01:28:48.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 Oh, that'd be bad.

01:28:52.000 So we're getting as much as we can.

01:28:54.000 And I prefer to be honest.

01:28:55.000 They didn't like it.

01:28:56.000 They actually straight up told me to lie like every time.

01:28:57.000 And so I left the industry because I'm like, I'm not going to go out here.

01:29:00.000 And I thought I was fighting for something good.

01:29:01.000 And that's ultimately why I quit.

01:29:04.000 I didn't want to work in that kind of environment.

01:29:06.000 But imagine everything that's going on with politics.

01:29:09.000 We opened this show talking about how the Atlantic is playing defense for Joe Biden.

01:29:14.000 And one of the things we didn't actually mention, there's a news story that came out from the Washington Post and a bunch of other outlets, 93% of all of the protests have been peaceful.

01:29:24.000 Yeah.

01:29:24.000 How convenient at a time when we're actually starting to get angry about the violence and the destruction and regular people are waking up to how insane it is.

01:29:31.000 93%, yeah.

01:29:31.000 93%!

01:29:32.000 It's all peaceful.

01:29:33.000 I made this point on Twitter, I made it to you earlier.

01:29:35.000 If I kill someone once, the corporate press is factual but not truthful.

01:29:40.000 If I kill someone once, I am mostly peaceful. 0.70

01:29:42.000 364 days of the year, I kill no one.

01:29:45.000 Do you know what else they do?

01:29:47.000 This is an amazing one.

01:29:47.000 When they talk about, like, terrorism, and they talk about Muslim terrorism versus, like, white male extremist terrorism, and they start at 2002, it's like, why'd you start in 2002?

01:29:56.000 Did anything happen in 2001 that might skew the date one way or another, possibly?

01:30:01.000 And what year do they choose for white supremacy?

01:30:04.000 What year?

01:30:06.000 Can you give me the specific year?

01:30:07.000 I don't know which one you're talking about.

01:30:09.000 The Oklahoma City bombing.

01:30:10.000 Oh yeah, right, yeah.

01:30:11.000 With Timothy McVeigh.

01:30:12.000 Was that, like, 94?

01:30:13.000 Something like that, yeah.

01:30:14.000 They go back, yeah, so it's always like, since this date.

01:30:17.000 Yeah.

01:30:17.000 Oh, since that date, huh?

01:30:18.000 That's arbitrary.

01:30:19.000 So it's factual but not truthful, and the same is, like, okay, if you have a billion protests and 7% are violent, that's really bad.

01:30:29.000 If you have 100 protests and 7% are violent, that's bad, but nowhere near as bad.

01:30:33.000 Percentage is completely an irrelevancy when we're dealing with people being killed, businesses.

01:30:41.000 This is why I have so much contempt for de Blasio and Cuomo and many such other people.

01:30:46.000 Which is, there's nothing more American, we've all been told, especially by the Cuomos of the world, the Fredos of the world, where you have the family that comes over, mom and dad put together a business, maybe mom's a good cook, they have a restaurant, dry cleaning, grocery store, all the typical immigrant jobs. 0.99

01:31:01.000 These were the first people put out of business by this COVID nonsense.

01:31:05.000 And there's no responsibility for what you've done to them.

01:31:10.000 There's not going to be any restitution.

01:31:12.000 And now when their businesses are burned down, they're told, sit down and shut up.

01:31:16.000 You have insurance. 0.53

01:31:17.000 You built something with your hands.

01:31:20.000 This is your dream.

01:31:21.000 Blood, sweat and tears.

01:31:23.000 And the question is, well, you got to check.

01:31:24.000 Why are you complaining? 1.00

01:31:25.000 Are you insane? 1.00

01:31:27.000 You people are monsters. 1.00

01:31:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:31:30.000 Like this desk we have, and these walls and everything.

01:31:33.000 So Adam actually put these walls together.

01:31:35.000 I bought the fake vinyl slats, though.

01:31:38.000 That was my conclusion.

01:31:39.000 But no, so everything that this studio is built upon was incremental for me.

01:31:44.000 It wasn't like one day I just knew exactly what I needed to buy.

01:31:47.000 And so if everything that I've put together was destroyed overnight, insurance would never rebuild it.

01:31:53.000 There's no one I can hire to do that job.

01:31:55.000 But just also emotionally.

01:31:56.000 Right, right, right.

01:31:57.000 It's like, you're going to get another spinning fake circular earth?

01:32:00.000 No.

01:32:01.000 Fake circular earth?

01:32:01.000 Yeah, you know.

01:32:02.000 Spherical, yeah.

01:32:03.000 It's not really round.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, we would lose the UFO, but we have like that life-size Trump.

01:32:08.000 I suppose I could replace.

01:32:09.000 Yeah, we have a life-size cardboard Trump someone sent us.

01:32:13.000 Are you gonna buy the same thing the second time?

01:32:15.000 It's gone.

01:32:16.000 It's not the same one.

01:32:17.000 Yep.

01:32:18.000 I actually have just over there under a desk a whole bunch of objects of historical value from news events that I've covered.

01:32:26.000 Okay.

01:32:27.000 So one example is the police. 0.92

01:32:29.000 So I lived on the street where the cops got executed by the black supremacist in Brooklyn.

01:32:33.000 And the police tape, I walked out my door and I took the police tape and I ripped the piece off and brought it inside.

01:32:38.000 I was like, this happened.

01:32:40.000 This is, you know, it's kind of like I can look at anyone.

01:32:42.000 Were they the ones who were shot in their car?

01:32:44.000 Oh my gosh.

01:32:45.000 I lived on that street.

01:32:45.000 Wow.

01:32:46.000 Did you hear the gunshots?

01:32:48.000 No.

01:32:49.000 No.

01:32:49.000 I heard the helicopter 20 feet above my house though.

01:32:51.000 When the cops came in, they wouldn't let me leave my house, but I left my house and I went and filmed it.

01:32:56.000 Uh, these objects I have can never be replaced.

01:33:00.000 Impossible.

01:33:01.000 But I can look at them, and I know that happened.

01:33:06.000 So, you know, it's kind of that.

01:33:06.000 I know.

01:33:08.000 I look at that, and it's like tying a string around your finger.

01:33:12.000 It's like a ribbon around a tree.

01:33:15.000 I've got a whole bunch of them.

01:33:16.000 I got the newspaper from St.

01:33:17.000 Louis the day they announced no charges for Darren Wilson.

01:33:20.000 I'm a pack rat also.

01:33:21.000 I have every book I've ever read.

01:33:23.000 I'm digitizing them some now.

01:33:24.000 But when you hold it, this is a part of your life that can never be replaced.

01:33:28.000 And if it's your business, this is your dream.

01:33:30.000 This gets me very upset.

01:33:33.000 For me, these objects are beyond me.

01:33:34.000 It's also history, yeah.

01:33:36.000 Right.

01:33:36.000 It's like, this happened.

01:33:38.000 And I can show this to someone and tell them the history of these things and these conflicts.

01:33:43.000 And if that was destroyed?

01:33:45.000 Never.

01:33:46.000 Yeah, of course.

01:33:46.000 These are talismans.

01:33:47.000 Beyond value.

01:33:48.000 Contemporary talismans.

01:33:49.000 So they, not only that, but the insurance only covers a certain number.

01:33:54.000 So one story that came out of Minneapolis is that the debris removal for many buildings was over 100k.

01:33:59.000 Insurance only covers 25.

01:34:01.000 Oh my god.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:34:02.000 Yeah.

01:34:02.000 thought they were going to demolish their entire building and haul all the debris away.

01:34:05.000 So now they're out of business permanently. Then you have a combination of COVID and the riots.

01:34:10.000 And that's why I'm just like, look, man, the Republicans have resisted the lockdowns and

01:34:17.000 Trump has been straight up law and order the whole time.

01:34:20.000 The Democrats have been go protest.

01:34:23.000 Woohoo! 1.00

01:34:24.000 And lock it all down.

01:34:26.000 It's extremely important that we all stay home.

01:34:29.000 And now it's extremely important that we all take to the streets.

01:34:32.000 And now it's extremely important we all stay home.

01:34:34.000 And I'm going to say something else.

01:34:36.000 I tweeted this out earlier this week.

01:34:38.000 I'm guessing it's going to be around 2023-2024 when we start having the necessary discussion about how do you have personal consequences for these people who do these things.

01:34:48.000 Because without personal consequences, they will do it again in a second because their incentives are all there.

01:34:54.000 And until that happens, and it's not going to be voting them out of office, this is going to continue.

01:34:58.000 And that's going to be a very disturbing conversation to have.

01:35:01.000 Should there be a grand jury indictment for Cuomo for putting sick patients into nursing homes, killing 6,500?

01:35:09.000 I am not in a position to say what I think should be done, Governor Cuomo.

01:35:13.000 Not publicly at least. I'm not. And I'm not joking in the slightest.

01:35:18.000 There's a lot of governors who were putting sick people in nursing homes. 0.99

01:35:24.000 Yes.

01:35:25.000 And thousands upon thousands of people died because of this.

01:35:29.000 Yes. 0.99

01:35:29.000 But then if you left your house without a mask, you want to kill Grandma. 0.99

01:35:32.000 Yeah, what the heck? 1.00

01:35:33.000 See, you want to kill Grandma, but I'm actually doing it. 0.99

01:35:36.000 And Cuomo is fighting tooth and nail, understandably, to have any investigation, is my understanding.

01:35:41.000 I know you're against voting, but for me, all of these things were a big catalyst for me being like, We gotta vote him out.

01:35:48.000 I mean, if anything I can do, I can cast a ballot.

01:35:51.000 I'm not saying it's the only thing that can be done.

01:35:53.000 I do a show to millions of people and tell them, like, look at these things that are happening.

01:35:57.000 Something must be done.

01:35:58.000 But at the very least, I can say no to these people.

01:36:02.000 And if that's the one thing I can do to start, it's a good start.

01:36:05.000 Because I'm worried about what happens.

01:36:06.000 I'm worried about a good finish.

01:36:08.000 Oh, yeah?

01:36:10.000 Some of the statements made by individuals, higher profile right-wing groups and right-wing militia groups, the things they've said, I'm like, I hope saying no, it's the best thing I can do, and if we all do it, it can prevent the worst to come.

01:36:24.000 The worst that is to come.

01:36:25.000 I'm not even talking about violence.

01:36:27.000 I just mean the fact that an indictment, whatever, it's just absolutely crazy that someone can do this much damage.

01:36:35.000 I had a poll on my Twitter.

01:36:36.000 I said, who has done more damage to New York City, Muhammad Atta or de Blasio?

01:36:41.000 And de Blasio won 90-1, but it's 90-10, but it's indisputably true.

01:36:47.000 I've been there all my life, and I'm telling you, Tim, it is devastating in heartbreak.

01:36:51.000 Here's the other thing.

01:36:52.000 This got me so upset, I was like literally shaking.

01:36:55.000 Haha, but not really.

01:36:57.000 I was actually literally shaking.

01:36:59.000 A couple weeks ago, I was very tired.

01:37:01.000 And I was just kind of tired, it wouldn't go away.

01:37:02.000 And I'm like, wait a minute, maybe I have COVID.

01:37:04.000 And I talked to my buddy Jay and he goes, no, no, no, you can't have it.

01:37:07.000 I'm like, what do you mean?

01:37:07.000 He goes, it's down to 100 cases in New York City a day.

01:37:12.000 There have been no deaths for like two months.

01:37:15.000 And I go, you can't be serious.

01:37:16.000 He pulls up the data and I'm sitting there.

01:37:18.000 I'm like, for two months, there's been no deaths and yet you have entire industries Filled with low, uneducated, often low-skilled people.

01:37:29.000 Where are they supposed to go?

01:37:31.000 It's just horrifying.

01:37:32.000 They're destroying New York.

01:37:34.000 Yes.

01:37:34.000 And they're blaming Trump for it.

01:37:35.000 Yes.

01:37:37.000 Trump just said, if Trump comes here, he better have a bunch of bodyguards.

01:37:40.000 An army.

01:37:40.000 No, no, no.

01:37:40.000 He said bodyguards wouldn't be enough.

01:37:42.000 He better bring an army.

01:37:43.000 How dare you talk about, and then how dare you talk about this with the, you are normalizing violence against the president of the United States as the governor.

01:37:51.000 You're saying, well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of people, like, force violence on you.

01:37:57.000 How many people... It's your job to keep him safe.

01:37:59.000 He's a New York resident, or he was until recently.

01:38:01.000 How many people died in New York from COVID?

01:38:03.000 I don't have the number.

01:38:04.000 Is it like, uh... It wasn't like 25,000, but then those numbers are skewed, because now we're finding that they died with COVID as opposed to died of COVID.

01:38:11.000 No, no, they died from COVID.

01:38:12.000 Okay.

01:38:13.000 So this is something that a lot of people are confused by.

01:38:15.000 I think Lydia clarified this, having actually been a fancy doctor. 1.00

01:38:18.000 Yeah, so if you had something else and you died of COVID, they counted you as having died with COVID, which is, I believe, a pretty standard operation.

01:38:27.000 No, but specifically the 94% thing that came out, comorbidities.

01:38:31.000 Yeah.

01:38:31.000 So a comorbidity doesn't mean you died of the comorbidity.

01:38:34.000 Right, exactly.

01:38:35.000 You died of COVID.

01:38:36.000 It's a comorbidity.

01:38:38.000 It's something that you died along with.

01:38:41.000 Here's the argument.

01:38:42.000 It's that if you're obese, you'll live.

01:38:44.000 If you're obese and you get COVID, COVID is likely to kill you. 0.83

01:38:47.000 Okay.

01:38:48.000 So these people, we knew this from the beginning, that people who had comorbidities or were invulnerable groups were much more likely to die from COVID.

01:38:56.000 But I think when you look at the data, and a lot of the arguments now coming from even some reputable, I say reputable, wink wink, news sources, what I mean by that is, are they actually credible?

01:39:06.000 But they are mainstream.

01:39:07.000 They're saying that something happened, but it ended a while ago, a few months ago at least.

01:39:12.000 And now the argument, I suppose, for many of these leftists is, oh, but it's only because we're locked down we're not seeing it.

01:39:19.000 As opposed to the fact that the Sunbelt bump never escalated.

01:39:23.000 It bumped a little bit and gone.

01:39:25.000 So now there's some prominent outlets saying, we believe we've reached herd immunity.

01:39:30.000 The CDC changed their guidelines.

01:39:31.000 Then Fauci was like, oh, harumph, I say.

01:39:34.000 And then there are some jurisdictions that have completely opened up that were previously locked down, suggesting Yeah, we should have been good to reopen a while ago, at least substantially more than we've already done.

01:39:45.000 But for whatever reason, they want to destroy and make sure that these businesses cannot ever come back.

01:39:51.000 You know the reason.

01:39:52.000 The reason is they enjoy their sense of power.

01:39:54.000 And I also tweeted this out, which is, whether we like it or not, some very evil people now have some very useful information about how much Americans will put up with.

01:40:05.000 I think it's also that they're cowards, and they don't want any responsibility at all.

01:40:10.000 Of course.

01:40:11.000 The incentives are all against it, opening up.

01:40:13.000 Exactly.

01:40:13.000 It's more like, if there's a death, it's going to be on my shoulders.

01:40:15.000 If it's a business loss, I can shrug my hand.

01:40:17.000 I could, you know, shrug.

01:40:18.000 But COVID!

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:20.000 The incentives are completely... That's why it's so disturbing.

01:40:23.000 What I think is happening is that... Did you read Matt Taibbi's piece recently? 0.96

01:40:29.000 He just published it about the Trump era sucks and needs to end. 0.95

01:40:31.000 I read the first paragraph and it got me angry. 0.98

01:40:35.000 Because it's really good.

01:40:36.000 I agree with you.

01:40:37.000 I'm sure it is good.

01:40:38.000 But the point he made in that first paragraph, and I don't know if this is the theme of the whole piece, was he was saying that a lot of lefties who come from liberal arts colleges have never been to sales meetings.

01:40:47.000 So when they hear Trump talk and say these absurdities, it doesn't resonate with them.

01:40:51.000 And they're like, I've never heard anything like this.

01:40:53.000 And we need to get away from that culture and back to our culture. 1.00

01:40:56.000 And my point is, if you're asking me to choose between the salespeople And the Ivy League grads, this is not a hard choice.

01:41:03.000 And we need to do everything in our possible, possible in our power to avoid that.

01:41:07.000 Because the first college president to become president was who?

01:41:11.000 What?

01:41:12.000 Woodrow Wilson.

01:41:13.000 So it all goes full circle. 0.99

01:41:15.000 And you have people who are morons, who are not highly educated, like Ronald Reagan from Eureka College, who ends the Cold War without firing a shot. 1.00

01:41:22.000 And I'm using the term moron here, ironically. 0.99

01:41:24.000 There's a great part of this article he writes where he says, he essentially says the cycle functions like this with the media. 0.98

01:41:33.000 Trump will say something, the media within seconds will immediately assert the opposite without evidence, but claiming Trump is the one who's trying to kill people, and he says call this the hydroxychloroquine effect.

01:41:44.000 The president sees some news reports from some outlets claiming there's some prominent studies.

01:41:48.000 Then he boasts and brags about it. 0.94

01:41:50.000 Then the media immediately declares he's trying to kill people.

01:41:52.000 Then you discover a day later that Trump actually said, what do I know?

01:41:57.000 I'm not a doctor.

01:41:58.000 And the media omitted that to make it seem like he was telling people to run outside and mainline hydroxychloroquine.

01:42:03.000 And I laughed.

01:42:05.000 It's hilarious.

01:42:05.000 Now, Matt doesn't like Trump, but that...

01:42:09.000 Here's another one I pointed out.

01:42:11.000 Back in May, he had everyone tweeting, hashtag, I am Antifa.

01:42:15.000 People who had never heard of Antifa the week prior were now in a position to lecture their Facebook friends about this organization, this movement doesn't really exist, but if it did exist, it's just like you and me.

01:42:26.000 So I would encourage people to go back and look at any Bluechecks who Bluechecked I am Antifa and ask them, follow up, do you still consider yourself a member of Antifa? 1.00

01:42:35.000 What a great question.

01:42:36.000 Who was, was it Keith Ellison's son?

01:42:38.000 Well, Keith Ellison was holding up the book.

01:42:40.000 But then his son said, I think it was Keith Ellison's son, somebody said when Trump said

01:42:44.000 he wanted Antifa to be labeled domestic terrorists, then a bunch of people were like, I am Antifa.

01:42:49.000 Yeah, it was his son, I think.

01:42:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:52.000 So it's like, I mean, Bill Barr straight up said they investigate their activities as

01:42:56.000 Yeah.

01:42:57.000 And... With good reason.

01:42:59.000 With good reason.

01:42:59.000 I'm not a fan of these... the laws that ascribe that, like, motives are prerequisite to breaking a crime when the crime is already a crime.

01:43:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:08.000 Sure.

01:43:08.000 Like, if you go around beating people and threatening them and coercing them, you know, you're breaking the law.

01:43:12.000 Yeah.

01:43:13.000 Just slap on an additional, like, well, but you did it because there was a different reason.

01:43:17.000 Sure, sure.

01:43:17.000 Like, hate crime laws, too.

01:43:18.000 That's fair.

01:43:18.000 I agree.

01:43:18.000 I'm like if it's illegal it's illegal.

01:43:20.000 Right. 0.99

01:43:21.000 If you kill someone because of your prejudice or you kill someone because they're screwing 1.00

01:43:23.000 your wife, these are murders. 0.99

01:43:25.000 Yeah.

01:43:26.000 Right, right, exactly.

01:43:27.000 And I think we should have equality under the law.

01:43:29.000 So I'm not sure if I'm a big fan of charging people as terrorists instead of just like

01:43:33.000 Harassment.

01:43:34.000 Stalking.

01:43:34.000 I think by charging but if you regard them and you look at that strategically and have people

01:43:38.000 who are under cover and keep an eye because that happens with you know racist radical groups as

01:43:42.000 well it should and all these Muslim radical groups as well it should it's like okay let's have our

01:43:46.000 guy in there or at least someone a neighbor keeping an eye on them to make sure things 0.91

01:43:49.000 don't get out of hand let them have their meetings but it wants things you know go nuts.

01:43:52.000 There's another reason why I don't like tribes don't want to be a part of tribes and don't want 1.00

01:43:56.000 to don't like voting for people I don't want to be a part of any group you know for this is this is

01:44:02.000 I gotta say I've done my homework and what's happening now has made me feel like I have to

01:44:08.000 vote for Trump at the very least.

01:44:09.000 But again, I have to stress, the people that I often talk to who complain about Republicans, like, but Trump this and that, I'll be like, Trump is very different from what the Republicans are. 0.96

01:44:19.000 I think the Republicans are awful, completely awful. 0.97

01:44:21.000 But I just think, the way I kind of view it now, Trump is a bull that he was unleashed into the ivory tower. 0.98

01:44:27.000 And he's just stomping around, running upstairs, kicking, you know, and these Ivy League, you know, ivory tower elites are like going, and like running around frantic.

01:44:36.000 And if you help them kick the bull out, they will lock the doors and never let anyone in again.

01:44:41.000 Yes.

01:44:41.000 They will take steps to make sure this happened once.

01:44:43.000 And they will tell you this was a fluke.

01:44:45.000 We know it's a fluke because it only happened once and America came to its senses four years later.

01:44:49.000 And now we've got to take steps to make sure this fluke is not possible again.

01:44:52.000 Just one more thing.

01:44:53.000 The Republican Party will do everything in its power to make sure they can't be another Trump nominee.

01:44:57.000 Yes.

01:44:58.000 So, if they sent you a video from the Tower of the Bull snorting and kicking over vases, it looks terrible, doesn't it?

01:45:04.000 Sure.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, but what happens if the Bull stays in and finally pushes them out?

01:45:09.000 Bull gets tired, Bull eventually leaves, and now the people can come in.

01:45:13.000 The establishment that wants to lock down control are getting support from progressives in this country who, I'm surprised, they should be sitting back laughing at the establishment getting trounced all over.

01:45:24.000 Let Trump, you know, Trump is not that bad.

01:45:27.000 Let him, let him, you know, run his course, push back on the extremism.

01:45:31.000 I guess a lot of these progressives are identitarian, so they're trying to accept their victories as well.

01:45:35.000 The way I see it is, after Trump, if the establishment is pushed out and weakened beyond any repair, then maybe we can actually start having real conversations beyond what Trump is or was.

01:45:45.000 But if he gets kicked out, then you're going to have the same corporate crony, Wall Street, whatever elites, locking the doors and no one will ever get in.

01:45:53.000 Yes.

01:45:53.000 And that's, I mean, this is how disingenuous there was.

01:45:56.000 There was an article recently that says, oh my gosh, all these Republican national security advisors with all this history behind them are endorsing Biden.

01:46:04.000 And then I just retweeted, I go, this happened four years ago under Hillary.

01:46:07.000 Like we all remember this, that it was like everyone There was a news report, six mayors from Iron Range cities endorsed Donald Trump.

01:46:13.000 You're familiar with the Iron Range?

01:46:14.000 This is like, what a big deal.

01:46:15.000 We've told you what to do.

01:46:16.000 Vote for her. 1.00

01:46:17.000 Everyone agrees.

01:46:18.000 It's like Biden.

01:46:19.000 It's happened with Biden.

01:46:19.000 This has never happened before.

01:46:20.000 No, it literally happened last time. 0.99

01:46:22.000 You liar. 0.98

01:46:22.000 There was a news report. 0.98

01:46:24.000 Six mayors from iron range cities endorsed Donald Trump.

01:46:28.000 You know, you're familiar with the iron range.

01:46:29.000 No, I'm not.

01:46:29.000 It is the second biggest Democrat stronghold in Minnesota.

01:46:33.000 Okay.

01:46:33.000 It is the Democrat Farmer Labor Party territory.

01:46:36.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:36.000 Lefty.

01:46:37.000 That's socialist lefty.

01:46:37.000 Not all of them endorsed Trump.

01:46:39.000 Some of them actually pushed back.

01:46:41.000 But when I saw that, and then someone sent me, I said, wow, look at this.

01:46:45.000 You know, all these union towns endorsing Trump.

01:46:49.000 Someone sent me, but look at the Republicans endorsing Biden.

01:46:52.000 And the Republicans were all former, you know, intelligence.

01:46:55.000 And I said, if you're telling me I have to choose between the union laborers and some spooks? 0.93

01:46:59.000 Yes.

01:46:59.000 You know, it's not a hard choice.

01:47:01.000 Like, I'll take the union guys any day.

01:47:03.000 I'm not interested in these intelligence guys.

01:47:05.000 This is the KGB. 0.65

01:47:07.000 I'm not joking.

01:47:08.000 I mean, these organizations have secret police who spy on American citizens.

01:47:12.000 They listen to our phone calls, grossly unconstitutionally.

01:47:15.000 Snowden just showed that this program was based on lies, and we're supposed to smile and nod and regard them as patriots?

01:47:21.000 I left Russia, but I guess I brought it over with me.

01:47:24.000 I'm kind of hoping that if Trump gets reelected, one of the first things he does is pardon Snowden and Assange.

01:47:30.000 And also, you just read Pirate Roberts, Ross Ulbricht.

01:47:34.000 I don't know a whole lot about that, but from what I've read, the whole thing seems fairly messed up.

01:47:40.000 Yes, it's very much so.

01:47:41.000 I had his mom, Lynn, on my show, and it was a very touching episode.

01:47:44.000 Do you think Trump would just pardon all these individuals or commute somewhere else?

01:47:47.000 I don't think it's remotely implausible.

01:47:49.000 And you know what?

01:47:50.000 He might even do it if he loses.

01:47:52.000 That's true, that's true.

01:47:53.000 You know, what's funny is- And also the marijuana people.

01:47:55.000 Yes.

01:47:56.000 I think Glenn Greenwald brought this up because somebody was like, why would Trump pardon Assange?

01:48:00.000 Because everyone thought he would.

01:48:02.000 And he said something like, maybe it's because Assange exposed the intelligence agencies that were spending years, you know, screwing with his presidency and causing him problems.

01:48:10.000 And now he's angry about it.

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 Well, we- Play with the bull, get the horns.

01:48:15.000 This is what I really, really hope.

01:48:16.000 I hope if Trump gets reelected, that we see my favorite side of Trump, the petty vindictiveness.

01:48:22.000 One of the best moments of the Trump presidency was when Nancy Pelosi and all them were going overseas and he made them literally turn the bus around and saying you're not getting on the plane.

01:48:31.000 We all saw that.

01:48:32.000 You heard the Curb Your Enthusiasm music in your head as they were getting off the bus.

01:48:36.000 It was pornographic.

01:48:37.000 Didn't they drive around in circles for a while?

01:48:39.000 I think so, yeah.

01:48:39.000 They didn't know what to do.

01:48:41.000 It was amazing.

01:48:42.000 It's like...

01:48:46.000 I've never been a fan of Trump's, and he did this a lot earlier on, very bombastic, very offensive and angry, and he's chilled out a whole lot.

01:48:56.000 But I gotta tell you, there is something magical to seeing crony establishment millionaires, and billionaires, getting comeuppance.

01:49:06.000 Nancy Pelosi, who's been in, well actually yes, Hillary Clinton, I laughed so hard when he won because it was like, At the time, in 2016, I was for Bernie.

01:49:16.000 And then Bernie kind of let me down in a lot of ways.

01:49:18.000 But when Hillary lost, it was like all of your dirty games and your arrogance has just, you know... Remember that tweet? 1.00

01:49:26.000 Happy birthday to this future president a few days before the election. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Happy birthday, bitch! 1.00

01:49:31.000 Sorry, sorry. 1.00

01:49:33.000 I was told no cursing.

01:49:34.000 I almost got through.

01:49:35.000 No, we don't say no cursing.

01:49:36.000 We just say, like, keep in mind, YouTube will, you know, punish you.

01:49:40.000 But there's something magical.

01:49:41.000 We'll take it out of post.

01:49:42.000 This is why a lot of people like Trump, because finally you had someone in your corner saying all of these things that you wish you could say to them, and he's saying it.

01:49:51.000 Well, also the fact that this sense of that the vote is kind of a formality.

01:49:56.000 All the smart people agreed.

01:49:58.000 No Fortune 500 company executive.

01:50:02.000 This club from Yale, which has never endorsed anyone from president.

01:50:04.000 National Geographical, these random places.

01:50:07.000 Listen, we told you what to do.

01:50:09.000 Now get in that booth and do it. 1.00

01:50:11.000 And people are like, yeah, I don't want to.

01:50:13.000 So I'm an American.

01:50:14.000 I have a finger on each hand and I'm going to use them.

01:50:17.000 So there you go.

01:50:18.000 I guess we'll see how it plays out.

01:50:19.000 Those debates are going to be amazing.

01:50:22.000 Wow, could you imagine?

01:50:24.000 I can't handle it.

01:50:26.000 I got to tell you, it's not at all impossible.

01:50:27.000 Biden does perfectly fine.

01:50:29.000 It's not impossible.

01:50:31.000 What do you think's going to happen when Trump says, listen, we have had for months far left anarchists in this country.

01:50:39.000 Joe, excuse me, excuse me, Joe, you, your campaign bailed them out.

01:50:44.000 And so did Kamala Harris.

01:50:45.000 No, no, no.

01:50:47.000 You supported them.

01:50:48.000 You supported them.

01:50:49.000 Did you, Posobiec tweeted out that they're thinking Biden's team of having him take a knee I desperately hope that happens.

01:50:56.000 I desperately hope he takes a knee.

01:50:57.000 It's just gonna be like, okay, if you want to be signaling to America, go ahead, go do it.

01:51:00.000 that happens. I desperately hope he takes a knee. It's just going to be like, okay,

01:51:06.000 if you want to be signaling to America, go ahead, go do it.

01:51:09.000 Trump will...

01:51:10.000 He might pee on you, literally. 0.63

01:51:13.000 What did Joe say? Mike Tyson fighting a three-year-old?

01:51:15.000 Oh my gosh.

01:51:16.000 Can you imagine that?

01:51:17.000 No, no.

01:51:19.000 Listen, Joe Biden bested Sarah Palin.

01:51:23.000 Not that she's a genius, but Paul Ryan was no dummy.

01:51:27.000 Yeah, but this was a long time ago, man.

01:51:29.000 The point is, there is a track record, and he was in the Senate for many years, it's still there in his brain.

01:51:34.000 So it's not at all a given that he's going to be there and literally crap his pants on stage, as I'm predicting. 0.84

01:51:40.000 I think Trump is going to... Annihilate him?

01:51:44.000 It's going to be... You're also forgetting there's a third person there, that's the moderator.

01:51:48.000 And it's very, very plausible that that moderator will be doing Joe's... being like the switch hitter, or whatever you want to call it, and be like, oh, when he said this, and just completely mischaracterized...

01:51:57.000 And training the audience.

01:51:58.000 Remember when Anderson Cooper... I can't remember exactly what it was, but he basically answered the question in his question.

01:52:04.000 Yeah!

01:52:04.000 I can't remember who he was talking to, but he was like, this whole thing happened, and here's why, and here's what it means.

01:52:09.000 Your thoughts?

01:52:10.000 It's like, yes.

01:52:10.000 Yeah.

01:52:11.000 Thank you.

01:52:12.000 Agreed, yeah.

01:52:12.000 Yeah.

01:52:13.000 Let's take Super Chats!

01:52:14.000 Okay.

01:52:15.000 We went a little long because we were having a lot of fun, so we'll just try and raise as many Super Chats as we can. 1.00

01:52:18.000 Don't speak for me.

01:52:19.000 Yeah, no, my... This is torture!

01:52:21.000 Hell on Earth!

01:52:23.000 First, do you want to mention your show or Twitter?

01:52:26.000 Sure, Michael Malice on Twitter.

01:52:27.000 My books are Dear Reader and The New Right and YouTube channels, youtube.com slash MichaelMaliceOfficial.

01:52:32.000 There you go.

01:52:33.000 And of course, we do the show Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.

01:52:36.000 live, so smash that like button if you have not already.

01:52:39.000 We are dramatically under-liked, so we would appreciate that.

01:52:42.000 And let's read superchats.

01:52:44.000 So we got Lauren who says, it's a big superchat.

01:52:44.000 Okay.

01:52:47.000 How much?

01:52:48.000 200 bucks.

01:52:48.000 Nice!

01:52:49.000 Russia does not trust the West.

01:52:50.000 Historically, Russia has always been Western Europe's whipping boy. 0.93

01:52:54.000 Yes.

01:52:54.000 The West picks on Putin because they're punching down.

01:52:57.000 Remember, we're still in the generation that won the Cold War and got incredibly cocky afterward by building the EU in Warsaw Pact countries. 0.89

01:53:05.000 You have any thoughts on that?

01:53:06.000 Because I'm not... I think he's absolutely right on the money.

01:53:08.000 I think Russia, one of the things they love... I think it was a lady, Lauren.

01:53:11.000 It could be a man.

01:53:12.000 One of the guys who made this is named Lauren, I believe.

01:53:17.000 One of the things that... why they like Putin and Mother Russia, where I'm from, is because he's restored Russia's status.

01:53:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:27.000 I heard he wants to recreate the Soviet Union essentially.

01:53:30.000 I mean that's the big knock against him from like a lot of these neocons. I don't know that's really true.

01:53:35.000 But he certainly wants to be, recreate the sense of Russia's grandeur.

01:53:39.000 Like a trade federation.

01:53:40.000 Yes, yes.

01:53:41.000 Tassan says, how's it going?

01:53:44.000 I sent him a message on Instagram.

01:53:45.000 Name is Tassan.

01:53:47.000 I hope you see it.

01:53:48.000 I talked about my opinion and opinion of some of my friends.

01:53:50.000 It is Lauren.

01:53:51.000 Lauren did make this hat. 1.00

01:53:52.000 Sorry.

01:53:52.000 Oh, excellent.

01:53:53.000 From the Marine Corps, if civil conflict breaks out, thanks for everything.

01:53:55.000 I will check that out.

01:53:56.000 That sounds very interesting.

01:53:57.000 Thanks for the message.

01:53:59.000 Sheriff says, hey Michael, which pre-Obama president would have had the best Twitter account?

01:54:04.000 That is a great question.

01:54:05.000 Let's go through them.

01:54:07.000 Bill Clinton?

01:54:08.000 Pre-Obama.

01:54:09.000 Clinton, I don't think so. 0.87

01:54:10.000 I think Clinton was very phony.

01:54:13.000 Twitter is much more raw.

01:54:15.000 It's certainly not going to be Coolidge.

01:54:17.000 It might be Warren Harding. 0.98

01:54:18.000 Warren Harding was a drunk and a lech. 0.96

01:54:22.000 Well, he knocked up the woman in Britain. 0.96

01:54:23.000 This was like the first contemporary presidential scandal.

01:54:26.000 Only recently did the descendant take DNA to prove that he was in fact the father.

01:54:31.000 He was accused of being our first Negro president.

01:54:34.000 They ran a campaign that said he had Negro blood.

01:54:35.000 This was proven to be false.

01:54:37.000 Oh, I know who it would be.

01:54:38.000 Oh, this is the easy one.

01:54:39.000 Sorry, Teddy Roosevelt.

01:54:40.000 Teddy Roosevelt had so many quotes.

01:54:43.000 I despise him, but he was such a badass and was so aggressive, and he was worried about, like, nincompoops and all these weird terms.

01:54:51.000 He would be the best one, easily.

01:54:53.000 Made for Twitter.

01:54:55.000 Akhapat says, Are any of you aware of the recent social justice inroads into the military government?

01:55:01.000 For example, legally labeling BLM a non-political speech.

01:55:05.000 What's going to happen during the election if social media really cracks down on dissenting speech?

01:55:10.000 You're much more plugged in on social media than I am, so you're the one who went against Joe Jack Dorsey and Rogan, obviously.

01:55:17.000 Joe Jack.

01:55:18.000 I think the conservatives are greatly overconfident in their ability to win a conflict because they don't realize their disadvantage in communications.

01:55:29.000 So I think Verizon and AT&T would ban anybody in a moment's notice.

01:55:34.000 Oh yeah.

01:55:35.000 And they would argue national security in two seconds.

01:55:37.000 So come election time, Mark Zuckerberg has already sided with the narrative of the left that the election is going to be totally fine even if we can't determine a winner for weeks, which is not totally fine.

01:55:51.000 So what's going to happen is there's going to be impropriety.

01:55:53.000 We've already seen it across the country.

01:55:55.000 And I think they're prepping us for it so that we say these things.

01:55:59.000 Then when we're like, hey, we're seeing these problems, and Trump comes out and says, what's going on in, you know, in Florida is a disgrace, these mail-in ballots they're finding, banned.

01:56:09.000 Then you'll only ever hear the left narrative.

01:56:12.000 What's really funny, on Reddit, for a long time there's been a meme called, the left can't meme.

01:56:19.000 Which I'm sure you've heard of.

01:56:19.000 Of course, yes.

01:56:20.000 Did you know that on Reddit, however, the prominent subreddit that often makes the front page is called The Right Can't Meme.

01:56:26.000 And it's full of fake memes that no one is sharing.

01:56:28.000 Wow. 0.99

01:56:29.000 And it makes it seem like the right is really, really dumb. 0.98

01:56:32.000 Although, to be fair, I've seen some of these boomer con memes. 0.99

01:56:35.000 And they are, they're, they're the torture.

01:56:35.000 They're awful.

01:56:37.000 It's the literal, human rights violations.

01:56:39.000 Sure, sure.

01:56:39.000 80 pages of text.

01:56:41.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:56:42.000 But they're not in any way prominent.

01:56:44.000 Correct.

01:56:45.000 So where do these people find these memes that no one shares?

01:56:48.000 Well, I think something else that speaks to the question is how they stopped banning people for an extended period of time.

01:56:54.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:56:55.000 Maybe there's people I'm not thinking of.

01:56:57.000 But the fact that they went after Carpe Donctum after not verifying him, the guy who makes the memes that the president shares, and they're just like, oh, copyright violation.

01:57:04.000 They were setting the stages.

01:57:07.000 You had all these cathedral operatives referring to doctored videos.

01:57:11.000 It's a meme.

01:57:12.000 You're all using the same term, doctored, which implies deception.

01:57:16.000 When President Trump, in a WrestleMania clip, is body slamming CNN, no one looks at that and says, so CNN the network has become incarnate as a person.

01:57:25.000 With the logo as a head and the president's body slamming him.

01:57:28.000 This confuses me.

01:57:30.000 So the fact that they are taking out prominent figures like that should be very disturbing because we're one step away, and I think the EU has passed laws to this effect, where making memes is illegal.

01:57:44.000 Because that is one of the most effective ways at delegitimizing their authority.

01:57:48.000 Because it's not, I'm going to argue with you, it's I'm going to demonstrate you're an awful person who should be the object of derision, not someone to disagree with merely.

01:57:57.000 We got another one.

01:57:57.000 Austin Trammell says, heard rumors of Antifa scouting out small New Hampshire towns.

01:58:02.000 And I'll make them turn back. 0.67

01:58:04.000 We got a lot of weapons.

01:58:05.000 How would a regular Joe like me get on the show?

01:58:07.000 I'm 20 and for Trump 100%.

01:58:10.000 Maybe many regular people can get together.

01:58:11.000 Spin the saucer.

01:58:13.000 So one thing we are planning on doing in the future is getting regular people.

01:58:17.000 Sounds like a nightmare.

01:58:18.000 Well, the challenge is vetting people, but the idea is... I'm really anti-elitist.

01:58:25.000 I'm very pro-elitist.

01:58:26.000 You're pro-elitist?

01:58:27.000 I have a piece of Alexander Hamilton's hair in my house, I'm not even joking.

01:58:31.000 I like the idea of...

01:58:33.000 Look, I've had a lot of conversations with people who just work normal jobs who aren't into politics.

01:58:37.000 They're great people.

01:58:37.000 Sure.

01:58:38.000 But hearing what they think is going to be extremely insightful for people when you're trying to track opinions and you've got this class of people that are plugged in, politicos, who read the news all day.

01:58:49.000 Our opinions are so far removed from regular people.

01:58:49.000 Sure.

01:58:52.000 Okay.

01:58:53.000 So trying to find... vetting is the problem because you might get some dude who comes in and starts talking about just lizard people and, you know, it's like...

01:59:00.000 I'm telling you, man, I saw a guy and his eyes went, you know, crazy and I'm like, uh, maybe we shouldn't have done this.

01:59:06.000 So just finding, you know, just like regular people who are, you know, they follow the news a little bit.

01:59:06.000 Yeah.

01:59:12.000 They're not out of it is one of the things we're going to try to do.

01:59:14.000 I'm doing everything in my power to pray to Loki, the god of mischief, that someone gets past the radar and just trolls you hard.

01:59:21.000 Why would you do this to me, Michael?

01:59:22.000 It would be so good.

01:59:23.000 No, I'm praying right now.

01:59:24.000 Loki, listen, you know you answer my prayers.

01:59:27.000 Do this for me. 0.67

01:59:29.000 The only real concern is finding someone who, you know, it turns out that they're an unrepentant racist and immediately starts screaming insane things, we gotta throw them out. 0.69

01:59:38.000 If someone came in talking about lizard people, I'd be so mad.

01:59:41.000 What if they just told meandering stories that didn't really pay off?

01:59:47.000 They called out the Michael Malish show Yeah

01:59:51.000 So this was, you need to hear this man Because this is really important

01:59:55.000 I was once on my way to McDonald's This is very important

01:59:59.000 When I was walking there I actually came across a dog

02:00:03.000 Now the dog, I couldn't tell what kind of dog it was But the guy who was with him, his phone started ringing

02:00:07.000 And I got over here on the phone There was some guy talking about some kind of box factory

02:00:11.000 Actually I think it was a storage place So anyway that storage place it turns out

02:00:15.000 Oh my god Me and 5 Beans for a Nickel I'd say

02:00:19.000 5 B's for a nickel I'd say.

02:00:20.000 Yeah.

02:00:21.000 And they just keep going?

02:00:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:23.000 Well, you know, that's what I want.

02:00:26.000 We're going to try and find maybe like, you know, regulars for the show that we see and know that are interested.

02:00:30.000 Because do not email me asking to get on Tim's show.

02:00:35.000 I'm not going to do it.

02:00:36.000 And if you're a regular person, don't talk to me directly anyway.

02:00:38.000 The only way we'll book you is if... I'm kidding.

02:00:42.000 At his email addresses.

02:00:45.000 Yeah, so we're not at the position yet where we can start actually setting up this, but we're getting really close to relocating and setting up a new temporary studio.

02:00:54.000 We're actually getting a real studio built.

02:00:56.000 I'm in this, like, addition on my house, and this is foam insulation with sound foam glue.

02:01:07.000 This is top of the line stuff, Tim.

02:01:09.000 It looks cool.

02:01:11.000 The budget for it was like 50 bucks.

02:01:13.000 So hey, Adam made it.

02:01:15.000 He did a great job.

02:01:16.000 I love how the UFO cost more than the entire set.

02:01:19.000 It's true.

02:01:20.000 We just covered the walls because the walls were boring.

02:01:22.000 Alright, let's read some more of these here Super Chats. 0.89

02:01:27.000 Court J says, has anyone noticed that since they arrested Epstein's girlfriend, we have found and rescued over 50 children?

02:01:33.000 It's more than that.

02:01:33.000 Yes.

02:01:33.000 Were you the one who was saying that?

02:01:35.000 I saw someone tweet that out.

02:01:35.000 You think she's talking?

02:01:37.000 I didn't say that.

02:01:38.000 Someone said that to me, and I was like, interesting.

02:01:40.000 Maybe so.

02:01:40.000 I mean, I don't understand how someone who has, I think, more than one passport, who's like a French national, British national, is in a position to get herself arrested.

02:01:48.000 I think this is very much a situation where she's like, all right, let's cut a deal.

02:01:51.000 That's what makes sense to me, at least.

02:01:52.000 Because she was missing.

02:01:53.000 She's not a dummy.

02:01:55.000 And then they finally find her.

02:01:56.000 And there's no, again, there's no footage of the arrest, and there's no perp walk, as I pointed out with Epstein. 0.96

02:02:01.000 Give me a stupid reason as to why there's no perp walk or arrest. 0.95

02:02:05.000 You really want that water, just take it, fine. 1.00

02:02:07.000 I told you, I told you.

02:02:07.000 Oh, it's 10.

02:02:08.000 Let her take it.

02:02:09.000 It's 10.01pm.

02:02:10.000 So this is important for everybody listening.

02:02:12.000 It's my supervisor.

02:02:13.000 We normally end the show at 10, and that's when Bucko wakes up, and then he becomes adamant that, you know, you're supposed to be done with the show, give me attention, so here he is standing up.

02:02:22.000 I'll give him attention.

02:02:22.000 There you go.

02:02:24.000 We'll read some more of these.

02:02:24.000 I'm an animal person.

02:02:25.000 We got another one.

02:02:27.000 Dreadnought Consultancy says, Michael, you and Tim are the best out.

02:02:31.000 Can you please clarify your thoughts on McCarthyism?

02:02:33.000 We're all taught it was a terrible injustice, but I've heard you briefly express a contrary opinion.

02:02:38.000 He was a turd, but was he right?

02:02:40.000 Interesting. 0.77

02:02:41.000 This is going to be a big part of my next book, The White Pill.

02:02:45.000 What's amazing is the one time in history where the left got canceled is regarded as a crime on a level of genocide, right?

02:02:53.000 Oh man, that's true.

02:02:55.000 They talk about McCarthyism.

02:02:56.000 The House Un-American Activities Committee was the House.

02:02:59.000 McCarthy was the senator.

02:03:01.000 And this is something they never forgave Richard Nixon for.

02:03:03.000 Alger Hiss was a big shot at, I believe, the State Department, and he was exposed as a Soviet spy.

02:03:09.000 They're trying to make it out that people were fired for, like, voting communist.

02:03:14.000 These were people who were secretly involved in preparing for the violent overthrow of our government, seizure of all property, which inevitably led to deaths at orders of millions of people, under orders from a foreign Government.

02:03:29.000 This isn't a mere difference of opinion.

02:03:30.000 And then, the only bad thing that happened to them is that they couldn't get jobs in Hollywood.

02:03:37.000 And the fact that the people named... You laugh, but the fact that the people named names and pointed them out was regarded even 60 years later as unspeakable evil.

02:03:46.000 Who's the evil?

02:03:47.000 The people who are saying we should have the Holodomor, the gulags, and the secret police here?

02:03:52.000 Or the ones who are like, you know what?

02:03:54.000 Let's just stick to the democratic socialism.

02:03:57.000 He is really drinking all your water.

02:03:58.000 I talk about this a lot in my next book.

02:04:00.000 Bucko is chugging your water.

02:04:01.000 Yeah, man.

02:04:01.000 Let him!

02:04:02.000 Yeah, he's thirsty, huh?

02:04:03.000 Yeah, I guess so.

02:04:04.000 Yeah, that's what I heard.

02:04:05.000 I'm glad someone's courageous enough to make fun of Donald Trump.

02:04:07.000 I am too!

02:04:08.000 I know, I know.

02:04:08.000 They said it in an interview.

02:04:10.000 Producer described the villain as a desperate, self-obsessed, fraudulent entrepreneur who

02:04:14.000 runs a business selling the American dream.

02:04:15.000 I'm glad someone's courageous enough to make fun of Donald Trump.

02:04:18.000 I am too.

02:04:19.000 It's really been an issue.

02:04:20.000 It needs to be dealt with.

02:04:22.000 They were like, the most interesting personality trait a person could have is hating Donald Trump.

02:04:26.000 No, that's a great line!

02:04:29.000 That's amazing!

02:04:29.000 It's very rare.

02:04:30.000 Vanishingly rare.

02:04:31.000 Maybe Will Chamberlain stole it from somebody.

02:04:34.000 I apologize for whoever said that because I'm not giving credit.

02:04:35.000 I can't remember.

02:04:36.000 I said it on Twitter.

02:04:37.000 I really don't care, though.

02:04:37.000 I love it.

02:04:39.000 Wonder Woman 1984 looks pretty good.

02:04:40.000 I love the trailer.

02:04:41.000 I like the music.

02:04:42.000 Just because they say the villain is based on Trump doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie.

02:04:47.000 What about they try to cancel Gal Gadot because she's Israeli?

02:04:50.000 I mean, these people are out of their minds.

02:04:52.000 Well, they'll always find some reason to cancel somebody.

02:04:55.000 Of course.

02:04:56.000 I would cancel her just for that video she made at the beginning of the lockdown. 1.00

02:04:59.000 Social justice.

02:04:59.000 Oh, I didn't see it.

02:05:01.000 Imagine.

02:05:02.000 Yes.

02:05:02.000 Oh my gosh.

02:05:04.000 James Degree says, Michael, please use this money to buy something that brings you joy.

02:05:07.000 Oh, that's possible.

02:05:08.000 How much was it?

02:05:09.000 25 bucks.

02:05:09.000 20 bucks.

02:05:10.000 Thank you, James.

02:05:10.000 Okay.

02:05:11.000 And if possible, something that simultaneously annoys your haters.

02:05:14.000 Very cool.

02:05:14.000 Oh, I just bought some toothpaste, which I'm not allowed to mention probably in this show.

02:05:18.000 If you go to my Instagram, instagram.com slash Michael Malice, there's some toothpaste, which is not politically correct.

02:05:24.000 Did he, like, eat a bunch of salty food?

02:05:26.000 Because he is chugging.

02:05:28.000 He's trying to bond with me.

02:05:29.000 He likes to drink and socialize.

02:05:30.000 I'm pretty cool.

02:05:31.000 For some reason, he only drinks our water, because I think he trusts it.

02:05:34.000 Like, I'm not drinking that bowl you gave me, I'm drinking what you're drinking.

02:05:37.000 Oh, you're a good boy.

02:05:38.000 He's a poison tester.

02:05:39.000 You're a good boy, Bucko.

02:05:40.000 Here we go, the one says, you say media is diverting us when it's you the whole time.

02:05:45.000 Everyone wants to know why we call- Isn't that Shyamalan right there?

02:05:51.000 Everyone wants to know why we call boneless chicken wings, chicken wings, when in fact they are just chicken nuggets, we want answers.

02:05:56.000 I don't call them that anymore.

02:05:57.000 Saucy nugs.

02:05:58.000 That's right, as we did today.

02:05:58.000 We call them saucy nugs.

02:06:00.000 I can witness that that happened today.

02:06:01.000 Yes, but are you familiar with the video or no?

02:06:04.000 It's incredible.

02:06:04.000 No.

02:06:05.000 But they're good.

02:06:07.000 So this guy goes into like a city hall, a city council meeting, Oh yeah, yeah.

02:06:11.000 And then somebody laughed and he goes, excuse me.

02:06:13.000 I'm trying to read.

02:06:14.000 Was it a troll or was he on the spectrum? 0.65

02:06:16.000 He's trolling. 0.65

02:06:17.000 His dad was on the council.

02:06:18.000 And then he's like, just for the record, that's my son.

02:06:20.000 Everyone laughed.

02:06:23.000 The outrage is funny, but he makes a good point.

02:06:26.000 They're just chicken tenders.

02:06:27.000 I'd vote for him.

02:06:27.000 No, no, no.

02:06:29.000 They're not tenders.

02:06:30.000 Tenders are elongate. 1.00

02:06:31.000 And they're finger shaped.

02:06:32.000 Saucy nugs.

02:06:33.000 They're nugs, but they're not tenders.

02:06:35.000 They're not tenders. 0.97

02:06:36.000 I like how he's like, we can call them saucy nugs or trash. 1.00

02:06:40.000 I like them. 0.52

02:06:40.000 They're delicious. 0.52

02:06:41.000 I know.

02:06:41.000 I prefer saucy nugs over wings.

02:06:44.000 That's just me.

02:06:44.000 I don't like wings because they gristle.

02:06:46.000 Right, exactly.

02:06:47.000 You've got to navigate how to eat it.

02:06:48.000 Give me that chunk of meat and I'll just pop it in my mouth.

02:06:52.000 I thought you weren't an elitist, Tim.

02:06:54.000 I'm not an elitist.

02:06:55.000 Well, if you prefer the nuggets to the wings, you're clearly an elitist.

02:06:58.000 Look at this guy.

02:06:59.000 What's he doing?

02:07:00.000 What a good boy.

02:07:01.000 Best member of the cast.

02:07:02.000 Hey buddy, come here.

02:07:03.000 He's just trying to pressure us.

02:07:05.000 Dan Nordoff says, No you're not.

02:07:07.000 You're not losing any friends.

02:07:08.000 You're losing people who know you.

02:07:09.000 going to lose some friends. No you're not, you're not losing any friends. You're losing people who

02:07:13.000 know you. They're not real friends. People who you knew. I'm just sick of hearing the lies on

02:07:17.000 the left constantly repeated. Thanks Tim for all that you do from the lone wolf in Canada.

02:07:21.000 He's a Trump supporter. 1.00

02:07:23.000 Stay in your asshole country. 1.00

02:07:25.000 Canada's not cool. 1.00

02:07:28.000 How are you a Trump supporter? 1.00

02:07:29.000 You're from a garbage place. 1.00

02:07:31.000 Garbage place. 1.00

02:07:32.000 Canada. 1.00

02:07:33.000 Did you know that most Canadians live within like 90 miles of the US border?

02:07:36.000 Yeah, and their population is like 30 million.

02:07:38.000 37.

02:07:39.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:07:40.000 It's like California.

02:07:41.000 So weird.

02:07:42.000 You love this water, buddy.

02:07:43.000 Let's see.

02:07:43.000 Bassmaster says, you missed the biggest story of the day, Tim.

02:07:46.000 The release of Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 remaster.

02:07:48.000 Oh, that was out today?

02:07:49.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

02:07:50.000 Because I've got it.

02:07:51.000 I'll download it right now.

02:07:52.000 I got the demo.

02:07:53.000 Tony Hawk's great.

02:07:54.000 Good game.

02:07:54.000 I like Skater XL.

02:07:55.000 I think Skater XL is more fun as a skateboarding game, but Tony Hawk is an excellent arcade game.

02:07:59.000 We're going over for this?

02:08:00.000 Yes.

02:08:01.000 We're just trying to pester you, Bucko.

02:08:05.000 That's true.

02:08:06.000 We've got a lot of superchats, though.

02:08:07.000 Step on the keyboard.

02:08:09.000 We're not gonna... What is he doing?

02:08:10.000 What a sweet boy.

02:08:11.000 He's marking his territory.

02:08:13.000 He's being sweet.

02:08:15.000 He's shoving his face into the microphone.

02:08:18.000 Don't walk on my keyboard, though.

02:08:19.000 You'll turn the stream off.

02:08:21.000 All right, let's see.

02:08:28.000 Okay, so we do the... Well, I didn't think it was legit that they were censoring Rogan or anything like that.

02:08:39.000 I mean, maybe it came off that way.

02:08:41.000 That's my bad.

02:08:41.000 I basically... You heard the story.

02:08:43.000 Of course, Michaela was on that list, and she was on my show this week, and she's like, why am I on this list?

02:08:46.000 Michaela Peterson.

02:08:47.000 Yeah.

02:08:47.000 Of course.

02:08:48.000 Oh, you hypocrite. 1.00

02:08:48.000 Spotify yeah, I think I think the story's overhyped because Joe's a big target of course and they're like oh you hypocrite 1.00

02:08:55.000 That one too, but they're also calling him a hypocrite like oh you don't believe in cancel culture

02:08:58.000 But you cancel all these people and he probably didn't do anything right of course, but there was a pattern

02:09:02.000 Do you know why the episodes were we're not I do not have a reason

02:09:05.000 And there was very clearly a pattern.

02:09:06.000 Other than Michaela, which was just odd.

02:09:09.000 This person's saying it's not true.

02:09:10.000 I guess we'll see.

02:09:11.000 I think Michaela got re-edited, though.

02:09:12.000 She did immediately.

02:09:14.000 Alex publicly came out.

02:09:16.000 There's a few others who were there.

02:09:17.000 I think Steve Aoki was one of them, wasn't he?

02:09:19.000 It was something really weird.

02:09:20.000 It was very weird, yeah.

02:09:22.000 Chris D'Elia I know was one of them.

02:09:23.000 Oh yeah, there's a reason for that.

02:09:25.000 Commander232 says, Tim I really liked your guest tonight.

02:09:27.000 A person who truly knows his history.

02:09:29.000 I myself as far back as the first grade preferred history books over a Disney book at the time.

02:09:33.000 Those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

02:09:35.000 Ask him about black Americans in the revolution.

02:09:41.000 I only go like modern.

02:09:43.000 Yeah.

02:09:43.000 Sorry, dude.

02:09:44.000 Well, I'll look up.

02:09:45.000 I'll look into that.

02:09:46.000 I've been doing, actually, for the last year and a half, a deep dive in the Harlem Renaissance, which I know more about than almost anyone.

02:09:51.000 Oh, very cool.

02:09:52.000 Yeah.

02:09:52.000 All right.

02:09:53.000 Let's see.

02:09:53.000 So we did read a lot of these.

02:09:54.000 What a great question.

02:09:55.000 Thank you.

02:09:57.000 Can I say something about that question because it really speaks to something I think is very important, how the right has failed.

02:10:03.000 The idea that black soldiers during the Revolutionary War is something that only black people are interested in is insane because this is something that's fascinating to everyone.

02:10:14.000 What was it like to be a black person in New York in 1776?

02:10:17.000 None of us have any idea.

02:10:19.000 Any of us would be fascinated to know that Absolutely.

02:10:21.000 But because so many conservatives have understandably handed over black history and gay history and women's history to elements of the far left, they are left exposed and allow the cathedral to propagate lies about this history because they are like, well, this isn't my world.

02:10:38.000 It is your world.

02:10:39.000 History belongs to any of us.

02:10:41.000 I'm very inspired by, for example, Zora Neale Hurston, who was one of the Harlem Renaissance writers.

02:10:45.000 She's a black woman from the South. 1.00

02:10:47.000 I can still read her biography and be like, this person's a badass and she challenges my thinking. 0.93

02:10:52.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.95

02:10:52.000 And no one would argue otherwise unless you're completely deranged. 0.95

02:10:55.000 So this is a great example of how conservatives are losing because conservatives at its best is studying lessons of history and applying it today.

02:11:02.000 And there's huge swaths where they're like, well, this is just lefty craft trap.

02:11:05.000 No.

02:11:05.000 Yeah.

02:11:06.000 I don't like that.

02:11:07.000 Dustin Weiser.

02:11:08.000 Dustin Weiser says North Korea's response to a Biden victory versus Trump's victory.

02:11:14.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:15.000 I'm the North Korea guy.

02:11:16.000 So this is hard to suss out.

02:11:18.000 I think North Korea would see Biden as possibly very, very weak.

02:11:23.000 They called him, you know, all sorts of names.

02:11:26.000 At the other hand, they also had called for death penalty for Donald Trump at a certain point.

02:11:32.000 They would push back against Biden.

02:11:34.000 On the other hand, he voted for the war.

02:11:37.000 And my contacts have told me that basically the State Department vis-a-vis North Korea, their strategy going forward, at least in the near future, is to pretend North Korea doesn't exist.

02:11:48.000 That's extremely disappointing.

02:11:49.000 One of the things I talk about in Dear Reader, I talk about constantly why I'm wearing this shirt.

02:11:53.000 Everyone in North Korea, when they leave their house, 25 million, 30 million people, have to wear a lapel pin over their heart with the leaders at all times.

02:12:00.000 So this, that's the level of, there's so many layers to the oppression in that country.

02:12:05.000 So this is kind of my thing to show a little bit of solidarity for these poor, poor people.

02:12:09.000 So I am very, I mean, I hope desperately that if Trump is reelected, he makes it as much a priority as he did in his first term.

02:12:19.000 His first meeting was with Xi Jinping at Mar-a-Lago talking about North Korea.

02:12:22.000 And that gave me so much hope because during the Obama years, they didn't do anything.

02:12:26.000 I can't really blame Obama because it's such a complicated issue.

02:12:29.000 I thought Trump crossing the DMZ into North Korea was incredible.

02:12:32.000 Yes, it was very, very incredible.

02:12:33.000 If you all want to cry, there's many North Korean families that have been separated for decades because of the Korean War, and there's videos where the evil North Korean government lets them see their family members once in a while, and they meet for a day.

02:12:46.000 The North Koreans have a minder, and they separate out. 0.80

02:12:48.000 You watch these videos, brothers who haven't seen each other for 40 years, you are going to start crying hysterically.

02:12:54.000 It's the most touching humanity you can imagine.

02:12:57.000 Yeah, man.

02:12:57.000 Trump walked into North Korea with no security.

02:13:00.000 They could have.

02:13:00.000 Yeah.

02:13:01.000 So did I, though, to be fair.

02:13:02.000 Did you?

02:13:02.000 Well, you're not the president of the United States.

02:13:05.000 And neither are you.

02:13:06.000 Definitely not.

02:13:08.000 And I'd be worried about crossing over there.

02:13:10.000 But for Trump to do that, to me, was very symbolic and important.

02:13:13.000 Oh, yes, of course it was.

02:13:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:16.000 These people are so sick. 0.97

02:13:19.000 It really gets me angry. 0.91

02:13:20.000 When they made that video for Kim Jong-un about being like, look how great you could be the one who frees your people.

02:13:25.000 And they're laughing because they're like, this is like a sales ad.

02:13:27.000 I'm like, yeah, you're selling some with nuclear weapons and concentration camps to try to do the right thing. 0.76

02:13:33.000 That's what diplomacy means.

02:13:34.000 Of course it's going to be cheesy and corny.

02:13:36.000 Who are you talking to? 0.99

02:13:37.000 Horrible, horrible people. 0.75

02:13:39.000 When Trump tries to avoid conflict with, say, Russia or China, and they mock him for it, I'm like, do you want nuclear war? 0.98

02:13:48.000 The president's not going to be like, F that guy, F this guy.

02:13:51.000 He's going to try and keep things calmed down.

02:13:54.000 For eight years, we were told that George W. Bush is the worst president ever because he doesn't know how to do diplomacy.

02:13:59.000 He's just a cowboy firing, you know, armies and missiles. 1.00

02:14:02.000 And then you have a president who's trying to do diplomacy, like, what an idiot, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

02:14:06.000 You people are... The level of contempt I have for these people cannot be overstated. 1.00

02:14:11.000 And with good reason, because we're talking about millions of people who were slaves.

02:14:14.000 Yes.

02:14:15.000 Oh, yeah.

02:14:17.000 Let's see, 117, BTN says, Ree, Mr. Malice's idea on employment.

02:14:22.000 I note Elon Musk stated at a recent Neuralink presentation was actually a recruitment drive.

02:14:26.000 No degree needed, just engineers and programmers to learn on the job.

02:14:29.000 Okay, everyone's saying buckle for president.

02:14:32.000 He's under the table now and he's poking me with his foot.

02:14:35.000 He's like, he's hitting, you know how the cat thing where they go like that?

02:14:38.000 Yeah, that's so cute.

02:14:39.000 And he's yelling down there.

02:14:41.000 Because we're 13 minutes over, so he knows.

02:14:43.000 He's like, what is this?

02:14:44.000 Why do I have to wait for you?

02:14:46.000 Spaceman Chris says, I've always wondered what would happen if I asked Hispanic demos, why don't Mexicos stay in Mexico and fix Mexico? 1.00

02:14:53.000 They got great culture and art, but I never go over there, even though I look like them, for fear of my son getting kidnapped by cartel.

02:15:01.000 Oh.

02:15:01.000 Yikes.

02:15:03.000 There's, I mean, there's crazy stories about that stuff.

02:15:05.000 Of course, it's no joke.

02:15:06.000 When Anonymous challenged them.

02:15:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:15:08.000 And then, do you know what happened?

02:15:10.000 No.

02:15:10.000 A couple people weren't, you know the guy, Fox Mask?

02:15:12.000 Yeah, of course, yeah.

02:15:13.000 A couple people, I may be misremembering, this has been a long time so you can look this up, but apparently Anonymous was like, we're gonna challenge you, and then some corpses were hanging from a highway sign with the masks on or whatever.

02:15:24.000 Oh my god.

02:15:25.000 Yeah, they don't mess around, these people.

02:15:26.000 No, no, no, of course.

02:15:27.000 They want you to know that they're in charge.

02:15:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, man.

02:15:31.000 All right, let's see.

02:15:31.000 Oof.

02:15:33.000 Connor says, point of personal privilege.

02:15:35.000 It hurts my ears and I can't reach the volume button in the position I am sitting right now.

02:15:35.000 Please don't clap.

02:15:39.000 I'm so excited Michael's on today.

02:15:40.000 Is this the opposite of Jeb Bush?

02:15:42.000 Yes.

02:15:44.000 Jeb followed me on my birthday.

02:15:44.000 Please don't clap.

02:15:46.000 You know, I woke up at like 5 a.m.

02:15:48.000 to go to the bathroom because I'm a senior citizen and I checked Twitter quickly and in the verify tab it says Jeb Bush followed you and I'm like, And I'm sleepy enough, I'm like, what?

02:15:48.000 or 6 a.m.

02:15:56.000 And I looked, and it was really him, and I DM'd with him a little bit, and it was like a very, very surreal moment, and I asked him on the show.

02:16:03.000 He didn't want to do it, but I don't blame him.

02:16:04.000 Ah, man.

02:16:04.000 All right, so I think we've about exhausted our time, so do you want to mention your socials one more time?

02:16:08.000 Just whatever you want to mention.

02:16:10.000 Sure.

02:16:10.000 Twitter.com slash MichaelMalice, and malice.locals.com.

02:16:13.000 I've got a nice little sleeper cell going where you don't have to worry about your Facebook friends.

02:16:18.000 What's that?

02:16:18.000 I was like, be careful about those jokes.

02:16:20.000 Yeah, jokes.

02:16:23.000 How could I be talking about sleeper cells?

02:16:25.000 Look at my hat! 0.97

02:16:25.000 I'm clearly a silly and not a threat to anyone. 0.97

02:16:28.000 Clearly insane. 0.99

02:16:28.000 Not real. 0.99

02:16:30.000 So if you go to malice.locals.com, we've got a great community and it's free to join.

02:16:37.000 People have to chip in to contribute and comment.

02:16:40.000 And Instagram is MichaelMalice and YouTube.com slash MichaelMaliceOfficial.

02:16:44.000 Right on.

02:16:45.000 My only question for everybody is why have you not smashed that like button?

02:16:48.000 It has to be a smash.

02:16:49.000 You can't press it.

02:16:51.000 No, it really does help.

02:16:53.000 He's right.

02:16:53.000 You know, it does.

02:16:54.000 It does.

02:16:55.000 You're absolutely right.

02:16:55.000 I'm not joking.

02:16:57.000 But thank you everybody for the super chats.

02:16:58.000 You know, we try to get to as many as possible.

02:17:00.000 You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.

02:17:03.000 It's right there above me.

02:17:05.000 And you can check out my other YouTube channels for more content.

02:17:07.000 There's nothing above Michael.

02:17:08.000 Why is there not one for me, Lee?

02:17:10.000 You've got the hat.

02:17:11.000 That's good enough.

02:17:12.000 The hat comes off.

02:17:15.000 But you can check out YouTube.com slash TimCastNews and YouTube.com slash TimCast for more content.

02:17:19.000 You can also follow at Sour Patch Lids.

02:17:21.000 That's Sour Patch L-Y-D-S.

02:17:24.000 We will be back Monday, but we'll have clips up throughout tomorrow from the show today, and then Monday live at 8 p.m.

02:17:30.000 So for everyone else, again, smash that like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell, and we will see you all Monday.

02:17:35.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 04, 2020

Timcast IRL - Media Smear Of Trump Is Designed To Shift The News Cycle Off The Antifa Killer

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