Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Michael Knowles Event ATTACKED By Left, Explosives Causes Lockdown w-Michael Knowles

00:00:00.000 So Michael Knowles was speaking at the University of Pittsburgh, I believe.

00:00:25.000 Yeah, Pitt last night.

00:00:27.000 Pitt last night, when far-leftists burned him in effigy, set fires outside, obviously, in addition to the effigy, and threw an explosive, which caused the building to get locked down.

00:00:37.000 And it's fairly par for the course we've seen with far-left extremism, but With all that happening, I'd have to wonder, how would you define burning something with the intent to intimidate?

00:00:47.000 Because we have another story where the guys who marched in Charlottesville with tiki torches are being criminally indicted for marching with tiki torches.

00:00:54.000 Now look, I don't think anybody in this room likes those guys.

00:00:57.000 In fact, I'm assuming most of you watching probably don't like those guys either, but they're allowed their free speech.

00:01:01.000 If they want to march around chanting or whatever, okay, fine.

00:01:04.000 The left can do it.

00:01:05.000 I don't like them, but they're allowed to do it.

00:01:07.000 We can clearly see how the government is being weaponized against certain people and not against others.

00:01:12.000 But I think to put it, to condense the thought, the left has weaponized the government against anyone it doesn't like.

00:01:19.000 So while there may be some people we don't like either, they're just going after their political enemies.

00:01:24.000 So we'll talk about that, but we also got more news.

00:01:26.000 Washington and Colorado are now becoming, I guess you'd call them, child sex change tourism states.

00:01:32.000 Washington has advanced a bill where they will not tell parents about the whereabouts of children who run away to seek sex changes.

00:01:40.000 And in Colorado, they're going to give children puberty blockers even if their parents said no and they fled to that state.

00:01:48.000 So, um, man.

00:01:50.000 These are wild times, plus we have this very funny viral video, funny sad by the way, of John Fetterman's return to the Senate and uh... Oh man, I just... At what point does anybody intervene to stop this?

00:02:04.000 Just everything, just all of it.

00:02:06.000 So we got a lot to talk about.

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00:03:18.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the man himself, Michael Knowles.

00:03:23.000 It's good to be with you and I was burned in effigy last night, but I'll tell you what,

00:03:28.000 I think I got the last laugh because Tim, I'm still alive.

00:03:31.000 They did not succeed.

00:03:32.000 They did, however, after we were escorted out of the debate hall following the debate,

00:03:38.000 they locked the room down for over an hour.

00:03:40.000 So no one in the hall was able to leave because the libs were rioting so much outside.

00:03:46.000 And then I kid you not, I was looking up, I said, I've got to find some information about what's going on out there.

00:03:50.000 And there was a Pitt student who said, we had a peaceful protest.

00:03:55.000 Mostly peaceful.

00:03:56.000 Well, we'll talk about that.

00:03:57.000 For those that don't know you, who are you?

00:03:59.000 What do you do? 0.96

00:04:00.000 I am a genocidal fascist, according to CNN. 0.85

00:04:03.000 Literally? 0.94

00:04:04.000 Did CNN actually say that?

00:04:06.000 Daily Beast and Rolling Stone called me genocidal.

00:04:09.000 Wow.

00:04:09.000 Huffington Post may have called me genocidal, too.

00:04:13.000 All because of my terrible position that boys and girls are different.

00:04:16.000 I brought you chocolate bars.

00:04:17.000 I was going to say, too, we finally got some of this.

00:04:21.000 The Jeremy's chocolate.

00:04:23.000 She, her, he, him.

00:04:26.000 I ate the nuts.

00:04:27.000 You did?

00:04:27.000 How did you like them?

00:04:28.000 They were delicious.

00:04:30.000 He, hims, nuts. 1.00

00:04:31.000 That's the one I chose. 1.00

00:04:32.000 Is it gay? 1.00

00:04:32.000 You're big on nuts? 1.00

00:04:33.000 What do you mean? 0.82

00:04:33.000 Do you think it was gay to eat the nuts? 0.82

00:04:35.000 What do you mean?

00:04:37.000 I don't.

00:04:37.000 I mean, only if you like it.

00:04:38.000 Do you want to eat the nuts, Ian?

00:04:40.000 Every day.

00:04:41.000 And you wanted the one without nuts, right, Mary? 0.99

00:04:43.000 I mean, I'll suck the chocolate off him first. 0.98

00:04:45.000 Thank you. 0.98

00:04:45.000 Listen, I'm all for standards and norms and everything, but I will tell you, the one with nuts is better. 0.98

00:04:51.000 I, uh, yeah.

00:04:52.000 So, you know, we had four.

00:04:53.000 I tried one.

00:04:54.000 I decided to try the He-Him Nuts Bar, just because I figured it's probably gonna have more flavor to it.

00:04:59.000 Protein?

00:05:00.000 I mean, well, protein, too.

00:05:01.000 I just figured the She-Her is probably a little, you know, plain, right? 1.00

00:05:06.000 It's just chocolate.

00:05:07.000 But, you know, chocolate's good, so we'll crack this open in a little bit.

00:05:10.000 So, of course, Mary Morgan's hanging out.

00:05:12.000 Hello, everyone.

00:05:13.000 It's me, Mary.

00:05:13.000 I guess it's been a minute since I've been on IRL, except for Austin.

00:05:16.000 I don't know if that counts.

00:05:18.000 Yeah, because it was just Alex screaming the whole time.

00:05:20.000 But I'm on Pop Culture Crisis right here at Timcast.

00:05:23.000 Nice to be here.

00:05:24.000 Hello.

00:05:25.000 Michael, great to see you.

00:05:26.000 Ian Crossland, if you don't know, but did you feel like Dark Voodoo Magic when they were burning your effigy?

00:05:30.000 I didn't.

00:05:31.000 I actually thought it was all very funny.

00:05:34.000 Especially, I mean, we had basically the 101st Airborne there, so I don't know.

00:05:38.000 These guys, they could have had whatever explosives they wanted.

00:05:40.000 We take security very seriously.

00:05:42.000 I was also staying at a haunted hotel, and so I didn't... Let's save it.

00:05:46.000 We'll open it up.

00:05:47.000 You got a spiritual shield, man.

00:05:49.000 I like it.

00:05:49.000 I'm muting some of the she-hers.

00:05:51.000 It's very good.

00:05:51.000 Jeremy, you've got a great font, man.

00:05:53.000 Nice work.

00:05:53.000 Good font.

00:05:54.000 We got Serge pressing the buttons.

00:05:56.000 Yo, what's up, y'all?

00:05:57.000 I'm ready to start when you guys are.

00:05:59.000 All right, let's just jump into the story.

00:06:01.000 Explosion at University of Pittsburgh transgender debate causes safety emergency as protesters yell and chant.

00:06:09.000 One protester set fire to a cardboard cutout with a conservative commentator's face on it, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

00:06:16.000 Do they have the burning and effigy in this article?

00:06:21.000 They have the protests.

00:06:21.000 They don't, they don't.

00:06:23.000 But yes, Michael, so you were going to be debating at the university on transgender issues.

00:06:28.000 I guess the professor backed out, and then far-left extremists set fires and burned you in effigy?

00:06:35.000 This entire debate got more absurd by the day, because I was invited by ISI, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute.

00:06:43.000 To debate this professor, Donald McCloskey, who now goes by Deirdre.

00:06:47.000 He has transitioned.

00:06:50.000 This is a very respected professor.

00:06:52.000 This guy has three degrees from Harvard.

00:06:54.000 He's got half a dozen honorary doctorates.

00:06:55.000 He's got two dozen academic publications.

00:06:58.000 I am but a lowly podcaster.

00:07:00.000 I have no particularly advanced degree.

00:07:02.000 I've written two books.

00:07:03.000 Only one of them has words in it, okay?

00:07:05.000 The professor should have been down to debate.

00:07:07.000 The professor didn't like me from the beginning, especially because of my CPAC speech, called me a fascist, called me an anti-Jesus Catholic.

00:07:15.000 What?

00:07:15.000 I guess he's Episcopalian or something.

00:07:17.000 I really don't need to be lectured on theology by Episcopalians, but that's what he did.

00:07:21.000 Is he really Episcopalian?

00:07:22.000 Yeah.

00:07:22.000 Oh, wow.

00:07:23.000 He identifies that way, at least.

00:07:24.000 But he said, even though Knowles is terrible, it's important that we debate these issues.

00:07:29.000 And he kept sort of insulting my intelligence.

00:07:31.000 We had a pre-debate call just a few weeks ago.

00:07:35.000 In which he reiterated his desire to debate and then...

00:07:39.000 A week or so before the debate, he pulls out.

00:07:42.000 And he pulled out because he's intelligent.

00:07:44.000 And I think he realized that not even a guy with three Harvard degrees and a whole bunch of honorary doctorates could defend this indefensible idea.

00:07:52.000 I think he also may have pulled out because he realized that I'm not just a provocateur bomb thrower, like the literal bomb throwers that were outside of the building.

00:08:01.000 I think he just realized I'm kind of relatively polite and we were just going to debate these issues.

00:08:05.000 He couldn't do it.

00:08:06.000 And so Brad Palumbo, the Libertarian, leaning... I guess he would call himself a conservative, but he's very left on LGBT issues.

00:08:15.000 He filled in, and I give him a lot of credit for pinch-hitting and allowing this debate to go on.

00:08:20.000 But even with Brad, who's relatively moderate on these issues...

00:08:23.000 Relatively. 1.00

00:08:24.000 Today, we're chopping off little kids' genitals. 1.00

00:08:28.000 The protesters were just absolutely nuts, and they did everything they could to shut it down. 1.00

00:08:33.000 They tried to burn me in effigy. 0.98

00:08:35.000 They did burn you.

00:08:36.000 Well, I guess they did burn me in effigy, but here I am, baby.

00:08:39.000 I'm not burned at all.

00:08:40.000 What was it you said before that angered these people, that transgenderism needed to be eradicated?

00:08:45.000 The concept of transgenderism? 0.88

00:08:46.000 That's right.

00:08:46.000 I probably haven't been on the show since the CPAC speech.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, I said, I've now memorized this quote because it's come up in the news so much.

00:08:53.000 For the good of society, and especially for the good of the poor people who've fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life, the whole preposterous ideology, at every level. 1.00

00:09:03.000 So how do you... Let's clarify that.

00:09:05.000 You were literally talking about gender ideology.

00:09:08.000 You weren't talking about people.

00:09:10.000 It's an ism, first of all, refers to a set of beliefs.

00:09:13.000 And then, lest there be any confusion, I clarified in the parenthetical immediately.

00:09:16.000 I said it's a preposterous ideology.

00:09:18.000 I said for the good of the people who have this confusion, so presumably I don't want to murder these people.

00:09:23.000 There was no way to misinterpret what I said, which is why the left-wing media just changed my words.

00:09:31.000 So the Daily Beast, Rolling Stone, they defamed me.

00:09:33.000 They admitted they defamed me because they ultimately changed the headlines.

00:09:37.000 You want to follow this up, Serge?

00:09:38.000 You know, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth catches up.

00:09:40.000 We have the video of Michael Knowles being an effigy.

00:09:43.000 Oh, wow.

00:09:43.000 Actually, from Tim Cass News.

00:09:45.000 Right out of his neck and chest.

00:09:46.000 Its neck and chest will say it is an effigy.

00:09:49.000 And so I just... Right, right.

00:09:52.000 I just look at this kind of stuff and I wonder, is the intention here to intimidate?

00:09:56.000 Because, I mean, the answer is simply put, yes.

00:09:58.000 Or black magic, yeah, who knows?

00:09:59.000 Black magic. 0.96

00:10:00.000 Also to intimidate my soul.

00:10:01.000 But you're using a very specific word there, Tim.

00:10:04.000 Why would you use that word?

00:10:06.000 Because we got a story earlier that in Charlottesville, they're indicting the Tiki Torch Marchers.

00:10:12.000 And they say it's because they burned something with the intent to intimidate.

00:10:17.000 And it's like, dude, come on.

00:10:18.000 We know what that bill is supposed to be, the law is supposed to be about.

00:10:21.000 It's supposed to be about someone putting a cross in your yard and setting on a fire.

00:10:24.000 Not walking down the sidewalk, saying dumb things, holding a tiki torch, which keeps mosquitoes away.

00:10:31.000 And here's the thing, right? 0.54

00:10:33.000 I hold that group in a similar disdain to as I hold these groups. 0.92

00:10:38.000 Both are entitled to their free speech, but as you see, law enforcement goes in only one direction.

00:10:43.000 I mean, it's kind of a weird thing because Their identitarians the same as the white nationalists, but for like a different race.

00:10:50.000 So I actually don't view their ideologies as different.

00:10:54.000 For the most part, you know, it's kind of weird. 0.98

00:10:56.000 Well, nobody is intimidated by either these people burning you in effigy because they look ridiculous. 0.51

00:11:02.000 And nobody was intimidated realistically by the tiki torch marchers in Charlottesville wearing white polo shirts. 0.73

00:11:10.000 I mean, I will say, when they were throwing explosives at the wall, I didn't feel worried because, again, we take security very seriously.

00:11:19.000 But that is a somewhat intimidating action when they're throwing explosives at you.

00:11:23.000 I would not call it persuasion.

00:11:24.000 I would definitely call it intimidation.

00:11:25.000 This is what I'm tired of.

00:11:26.000 I'm tired of the attempt by the so-called moderate individuals.

00:11:31.000 I consider myself fairly moderate, right?

00:11:33.000 But, I've heard this over and over again.

00:11:36.000 When I was in Berkeley, someone took, uh, I think it was an M-80, and threw it in the air, and it landed next to an old woman and exploded, and she fell down.

00:11:45.000 And I said, someone just threw an explosive at this old lady, and they were like, oh come on, it's a firecracker! 1.00

00:11:51.000 Okay.

00:11:53.000 Not playing that game.

00:11:55.000 It's an explosive.

00:11:55.000 Did it explode?

00:11:56.000 It exploded.

00:11:58.000 M80s are not like little poppers.

00:12:00.000 M80s can take your fingers off.

00:12:01.000 They can take your whole hand off.

00:12:03.000 And so this woman like falls over. 0.99

00:12:05.000 They also take these mortar shells, which are like the size of maybe tennis balls, maybe a little bit smaller.

00:12:12.000 And when they explode, they spray.

00:12:14.000 Everyone's seen fireworks and they go up in the air and then it blossoms.

00:12:18.000 Imagine that on the ground.

00:12:19.000 Those are explosives.

00:12:21.000 And you get these people on, first of all, the left will of course call them firecrackers because they want to minimize the language.

00:12:28.000 But then you'll get people online being like, look, I don't like antifa, but those are just fireworks, not explosives.

00:12:32.000 And it's like, oh, okay.

00:12:32.000 See what happens?

00:12:33.000 One of those goes off next to your head.

00:12:34.000 They're both fireworks and explosives.

00:12:36.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 Fireworks are explosives.

00:12:38.000 Of course.

00:12:39.000 But just to clarify, I'll call it a firework if you put it in a tube and it launches into the air and it looks pretty. 0.94

00:12:45.000 I'll call it an explosive when you're trying to kill people with it.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, like a knife isn't a murder tool unless you kill somebody with it. 0.60

00:12:50.000 Yeah, like, exactly.

00:12:51.000 I went to a steakhouse this past weekend and I love it when they walk up and they say, your knife, sir, and you get to pick one.

00:12:58.000 You ever have that happen?

00:12:59.000 It's like the second time in my life.

00:13:00.000 And I'm like, oh, I'll take this one.

00:13:01.000 He's not handing me a murder weapon.

00:13:02.000 He's handing me a utensil.

00:13:04.000 However, if someone took that and killed somebody, it would then be in a bag labeled a murder weapon.

00:13:09.000 Difference.

00:13:09.000 So Michael, I gotta ask, how do you, based on this quote that kind of set this all in motion about eradicating transgenders, and probably those two words are pretty extreme to have near each other, but how do you balance that with transgender people and your love or care for people that happen to be going through what they're going through?

00:13:25.000 Well, there is no such ontological category as transgender people.

00:13:30.000 There are people who are confused about their sex, but the whole point is that there is no such thing as a man who is secretly a woman.

00:13:38.000 That's a false anthropology.

00:13:40.000 And this is why the libs had to lie about what I said and change my words and throw

00:13:46.000 explosives at me and burn me in effigy, because they have no answer to that because we all

00:13:50.000 know that that's true.

00:13:51.000 We all know that these men are not actually women and we're just lying to them to varying

00:13:56.000 degrees.

00:13:57.000 And this was I think the weakest part of Brad Palumbo's argument last night at Pitt was

00:14:03.000 he tried to have a moderate position, which is, okay, these men are not actually women,

00:14:08.000 but we should treat them as women in the bathrooms, but not on the sports teams. 1.00

00:14:12.000 And we should do it to the 19 year olds, but not the 17 year olds.

00:14:15.000 And it just is so arbitrary.

00:14:19.000 Either men can really be women or they can. 0.99

00:14:21.000 And that was why the left reacted so much to my speech, because the libs thought that

00:14:26.000 they had won on the issue of transgenderism.

00:14:28.000 No one took this thing seriously ten years ago.

00:14:31.000 Now it is enshrined in our law, and they thought that they won, and they thought that the debate over transgenderism was now going to be, should we trans the seven-year-olds, or should we wait till they turn eight?

00:14:40.000 And in my speech, I said, no, guys, there's no—on certain issues, there's a middle ground, like taxes.

00:14:46.000 We can come to a middle agreement.

00:14:47.000 On immigration, what's the right number of immigrants?

00:14:51.000 Either women have bathrooms or they don't have bathrooms. 1.00

00:14:55.000 The minute you let a man into the woman's bathroom, the women lose their bathroom. 1.00

00:14:58.000 So we gotta pick one.

00:15:00.000 But I think there is a moderate solution to that.

00:15:02.000 Just single room bathrooms.

00:15:05.000 Right, you could abolish women's bathrooms altogether, but some women might say, you know, the issue isn't that we don't have enough bathrooms out there, because the other people, they'll say, well we just need another sports team for the transgenders, but it's going to be, obviously we'll need two more sports teams, one for the female to male transgenders and one for the male to female, so how many leagues are we going to have?

00:15:24.000 I disagree a little bit.

00:15:26.000 I don't care.

00:15:26.000 I'll go back to the bathroom thing too.

00:15:28.000 I'm at the airport this past weekend, and they have men's room, women's room, and then all gender in the middle. 0.54

00:15:31.000 players and one of them has to be a woman and we'll call it the uh the the the four the the one in four 1.00

00:15:35.000 teams league i don't care make up whatever league you want the idea for me uh i'll go back to the

00:15:41.000 bathroom thing too i'm at the airport this past weekend and they have men's room women's room and

00:15:46.000 then all gender in the middle guess which bathroom i used all gender i'll just

00:15:50.000 You know what?

00:15:50.000 It's a big private room!

00:15:52.000 I'm like, this is fantastic!

00:15:53.000 I can take my coat off, I can hang it up, I got like a big mirror to myself, I think it's fantastic.

00:15:58.000 Those used to be called family bathrooms.

00:15:59.000 That's right, they just changed the label.

00:16:01.000 Fair point though, there's always a huge line coming out of the women's bathroom, so taking that bathroom away and giving them a single room is probably just gonna make things a lot cluttered. 1.00

00:16:09.000 Probably gonna have to just turn the whole airport into a bunch of individual single stall bathrooms. 1.00

00:16:14.000 My issue is, when it comes to female sports, is that we did not create women's leagues because sometimes people wear dresses.

00:16:22.000 We created women's leagues because biological females have different physical characteristics and want to compete amongst themselves without men. 1.00

00:16:30.000 So all of a sudden now the debate becomes, well, is a trans woman a woman?

00:16:34.000 Then they can compete on the women's team.

00:16:36.000 But it's like, no, no, no, hold on.

00:16:37.000 If you're making the argument that woman just refers to social constructs, let me just remind you, we did not create the WNBA because sometimes people wear dresses. 0.99

00:16:46.000 Real quick, because the women playing basketball in the WNBA are wearing the same jerseys that guys wear. 1.00

00:16:51.000 The social constructs don't play a role in that.

00:16:53.000 It's so important, I think, to say, like, a boy is a boy, and if he becomes a trans girl or trans woman, he's still a boy that is a trans woman.

00:17:01.000 Like, you never stop being a boy.

00:17:03.000 You never stop being a human.

00:17:05.000 You're still a human that identifies as a carrot or whatever, or a man that identifies as a woman, but it's still a man and a trans woman together.

00:17:11.000 You can be both.

00:17:12.000 But right, but you're right, Ian, and the issue is they reject that.

00:17:16.000 I don't know.

00:17:16.000 I've never really had a deep conversation with someone that is identifying.

00:17:18.000 There isn't one.

00:17:19.000 This is the problem with it, is every time that I've tried to engage in a conversation with a serious person, I'm not just talking about some clout-chasing YouTubers or whatever.

00:17:28.000 I'm talking, I wanted the most serious pro-trans person there was.

00:17:32.000 I got the best professor for it.

00:17:34.000 And he pulled out of the debate.

00:17:36.000 ISI then invited like a dozen people who are big in the transgender movement None of them would, because they can't debate it. 1.00

00:17:43.000 But here's the, you know what it is, I think, I've thought about these issues, gun control, assault weapons, what is a woman, things like that, and I feel like I've done a better job articulating what their position should be.

00:17:56.000 Of course.

00:17:57.000 The issue is, and you could probably do the same, you could better articulate an argument on their behalf, but if you're being consistent, you're being logical and honest, you arrive more in a position where we are, you'd say, okay, I can't make those arguments.

00:18:08.000 Well, there's just no way to make it work, because they make a lot of mutually contradictory arguments.

00:18:11.000 On the one hand, they'll say, well, transgenderism is when your true self doesn't align with your body.

00:18:17.000 So I guess your soul is female, but your body is male. 0.95

00:18:20.000 But I don't believe in souls.

00:18:21.000 But they also don't believe in souls.

00:18:22.000 So then they'll make a materialist argument.

00:18:24.000 They'll say, OK, well, no, it's actually your body is male, but your brain is female. 0.99

00:18:28.000 Which, first of all, is based on just complete bunk science.

00:18:31.000 And there are interesting ways to debunk the methodological issues in those studies, but I think that was formally debunked, though, to be honest.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, I remember there was a big issue with transracialism, like seven years ago, and people were trying to use this idea that a brain could be male or female and the body could be different as the explanation, and then something happened where an academic created a transracial argument saying that individuals who have, let's say a person is like 2.7% Asian and they present white, they may have within their minds that they're actually Asians, and the left went Of course.

00:19:06.000 Lost it, because now, whoa no, white people aren't, you can't do that, and so that kind of broke the whole argument.

00:19:11.000 The other reason the brain studies are crazy is one, men and women's brains are a little bit different, but the problem is the studies, when they're looking at the brains, they're looking at people generally who have been on these cross-sex hormones forever, so you can't know if the hormones themselves are changing the brain makeup.

00:19:26.000 Also, the way in which the brains are a little bit different, say the brain of a trans woman from a man, The difference does not make the brain look like a female brain.

00:19:35.000 It makes it look like a little bit different entirely.

00:19:37.000 And so there are all sorts of problems with that.

00:19:40.000 But even then, the problem with their argument is, your brain is part of your body.

00:19:45.000 So you're saying part of my body is male, but the other part is female, but it doesn't actually show up on the scan.

00:19:51.000 It just doesn't make sense.

00:19:52.000 Here's what confused me with all of it.

00:19:55.000 The question, what is a woman? 1.00

00:19:57.000 I can easily answer the question for the left, but they can't answer their own question.

00:20:02.000 I don't quite understand.

00:20:03.000 So what would you think?

00:20:04.000 The leftist definition of woman is a human who identifies as an adult human female.

00:20:11.000 And it wasn't hard for me to think that.

00:20:14.000 They said female is sex and woman is social construct. 0.92

00:20:18.000 And I said, okay, so if someone's a woman, they're identifying as a biological female, but not. 0.91

00:20:24.000 How come not one leftist has ever said that sentence?

00:20:24.000 Right.

00:20:27.000 That's a great point, because it remains kind of circular, but in a charming way.

00:20:34.000 This is why I don't even really love the... Right, it's the social construct argument... Yeah.

00:20:38.000 ...attached to biology.

00:20:40.000 Right, but I don't even just love the biological argument, because I sort of think it partakes of the same soul-denying scientism that got us in this mess in the first place.

00:20:48.000 You know, if the answer to what is a woman is two X chromosomes in a womb, I think there's more to it than that, man. 0.86

00:20:54.000 Maybe sugar, spice, and everything nice.

00:20:57.000 A woman is much more than her body. 1.00

00:20:59.000 But a woman is, at the very least, her body. 1.00

00:21:02.000 And it's not like this is a brand new question that cropped up.

00:21:05.000 We do have thousands and thousands of years of very sophisticated thinking.

00:21:09.000 On what constitutes a man and what constitutes a woman.

00:21:12.000 But the moment you try to engage in that conversation, the transgenderists run away because there is no way to defend it. 1.00

00:21:18.000 The big divide I see here is not between the men and women and the trans and the whatever the opposite of trans is. 0.84

00:21:23.000 It's between people who view humanity as being made up of intellect and will.

00:21:29.000 I've got an intellect so I can perceive the truth and I've got a will so I can act on it.

00:21:33.000 And the people on the left who say, forget that intellect stuff.

00:21:37.000 It's all about the will.

00:21:38.000 That's what I'm thinking.

00:21:39.000 This is where I keep coming to.

00:21:40.000 I think what's happening is there's the Catholic, the Christian conservative that says that a spirit impregnated Jesus's mother, that somehow.

00:21:49.000 And it's like, I'm into reality.

00:21:51.000 So if a guy's going to say a boy is a girl, I'm into reality. 0.83

00:21:54.000 A boy is a boy.

00:21:55.000 And spirits do not impregnate women. 0.97

00:21:57.000 You need male sperm. 1.00

00:21:58.000 Yeah, well, no, I mean, the virgin birth did happen, and the incarnation's the pivot of history, but you're right, one of those things is fantastical, and one of them is the miracle that directs the entire course of history.

00:22:09.000 What's happening is that people that are identifying as a woman, that are as a man, is like, well, they say that ghosts can impregnate people, so why do I even take it seriously? 0.87

00:22:17.000 They're denying the categories of male and female altogether, they're denying that there are Natural laws.

00:22:25.000 Miracles are just things that happen that deviate from the natural laws, seemingly for supernatural reasons.

00:22:32.000 But you've got to admit, like, saying that God could impregnate a woman's body is mythical.

00:22:37.000 That's fantastical.

00:22:38.000 What?

00:22:39.000 I think that you're in two separate categories, and you're conflating these things incorrectly.

00:22:43.000 I'm trying to find a solution between the magical thinking of... No, I'll explain it to you.

00:22:48.000 God is omnipotent.

00:22:50.000 God is the creator, God is outside of time and space, and the mystery of the incarnation is that God, the divine logic of the universe, the logos, takes on human flesh and dwells among us.

00:23:00.000 And this is the pivot of history.

00:23:03.000 Now, the reason this is not magical thinking is God being defined as the maximally great being, as omnipotent, can do what he wills, especially as he is logic itself.

00:23:14.000 a little boy is not God, a little boy is not omnipotent, or a 25-year-old man for that matter.

00:23:20.000 And so when a 25-year-old man says, I'm actually a woman and comes up with some cockamamie

00:23:24.000 explanations to why that is, that can't make sense. Now, I'm not insisting that you believe

00:23:28.000 in God, but I am pointing out that if you acknowledge that some things are better than

00:23:33.000 other things and that an intelligible world probably implies an intelligence that created

00:23:37.000 the world that's outside of time and space, then the existence of miracles is not something

00:23:41.000 that's crazy or unbelievable. That would naturally follow from that.

00:23:44.000 I'll just address it for you.

00:23:46.000 I Ian if a boy was witnessed by Let's say let's just say a young man 20 years old Six foot tall, walked into a town center, walked into Columbus Circle in New York City, and hundreds of people gathered around, and then he went, something strange is happening, and then transformed into a woman.

00:24:08.000 That's a miracle, right?

00:24:09.000 Yeah, but that's impossibility.

00:24:12.000 And that exactly is the difference between your argument.

00:24:15.000 When someone comes out and says that they can undergo surgery, and they're now a woman, they're not, they're a man who underwent surgery.

00:24:21.000 Well, I agree with that, but I also, I believe in God.

00:24:22.000 I think there is a God.

00:24:23.000 All right, so hold on.

00:24:24.000 The difference is, the left is not making the argument that a man magically transformed by power of God into a woman.

00:24:30.000 They're arguing that they can surgically change their bodies, or medically, and that makes them the same as someone who was born female.

00:24:36.000 They're arguing that it's not supernatural, that it's actually just a natural fact of the world.

00:24:40.000 I feel like the argument is they're saying green is red when I want it to be red.

00:24:43.000 And I'm saying, well, let's just be real.

00:24:45.000 Green is green, red is red.

00:24:46.000 And you're right.

00:24:47.000 The difference between that and say, like, faith-based miracle believing, they're just different categories.

00:24:51.000 I don't know.

00:24:52.000 I mean, they're definitely different categories, but different ways of kind of taking leaps of assumption about things that I think are patently impossible.

00:24:52.000 I don't think so.

00:25:01.000 I've never seen an inkling of evidence that God could impregnate a human body.

00:25:06.000 Well, you're talking about faith versus denying reality.

00:25:10.000 I think it's also faith.

00:25:11.000 Transgenderism is faith.

00:25:13.000 But look, I can only say it like one more time, it's not the same thing.

00:25:16.000 It's not the same, but I'm trying to find a through line for it and a solution.

00:25:19.000 But it's not.

00:25:20.000 I think you're attaching two things that don't...

00:25:22.000 You're mesmerized by a central miracle in the history of the world, the pivot of history.

00:25:29.000 But are you saying, let's put that aside for a moment, are you saying that no miracles can happen?

00:25:34.000 You think the idea of miracles itself is impossible?

00:25:38.000 Well, how would you define miracle?

00:25:41.000 A suspension of the natural laws in a way that is improbable and fantastical and supernatural.

00:25:48.000 That is possible because we are still learning what the natural laws are as we gain more physics knowledge.

00:25:53.000 But I've never seen any evidence of it.

00:25:55.000 Let me try it this way.

00:25:56.000 Is it possible we live in a simulation?

00:25:58.000 Yeah.

00:25:59.000 Could the person in control of the simulation alter the code on a whim to, say, impregnate a woman?

00:26:04.000 Yeah, but you've got to say that the possibility of being in a simulation is near zero.

00:26:08.000 It's actually closer to one.

00:26:09.000 I would say it's 0.100 million trillionth of a percent.

00:26:13.000 But let's not deviate.

00:26:16.000 Let's assume that we're in a simulation.

00:26:17.000 It's possible.

00:26:18.000 That's not a good assumption because that is very unlikely.

00:26:20.000 You're just trying to avoid answering the question.

00:26:22.000 Do you have any evidence?

00:26:22.000 But OK, go for it.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, you already granted the possibility.

00:26:25.000 But a lot of things are possible and improbable.

00:26:25.000 It is.

00:26:28.000 Simulation theory is possible.

00:26:31.000 There are many smart thinkers, the easiest one is Elon Musk, because he's so famous, who believe that if it is possible to create a universe, to simulate a universe, based on our current... Here's the idea.

00:26:43.000 Based on our current level of technology, we have created such vast virtual worlds In 30 years with the advent of this technology, it is likely that in another 30 years, we'll be able to create things indistinguishable from reality, considering where deepfakes are at already.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, we're only probably 10 years away from being able to render on-the-fly universes.

00:27:03.000 At most 10 years.

00:27:05.000 At most, I mean, yeah, that might be a little long.

00:27:07.000 With deepfakes already to the point where they can make Joe Rogan say whatever they want him to say and even show him... There was a commercial of Joe Rogan selling a product because they just typed into a computer, pressed enter, and it rendered a video.

00:27:21.000 Now imagine, they have to do the exact same thing but using 3D modeling like Unity or something, Unreal Engine or something like that.

00:27:28.000 I don't like that analogy, by the way.

00:27:29.000 I don't like that belief that if we might do it in the future, if it's likely that we'll do it in the future, that it already happened.

00:27:34.000 to do in only a few years, there is a strong likelihood we actually exist in such a universe.

00:27:39.000 I take it.

00:27:40.000 But I don't want to deviate too far.

00:27:41.000 My point is just that I don't like that analogy, by the way.

00:27:43.000 I don't like that that belief that if we might do it in the future, if it's likely that we'll

00:27:46.000 do in the future that it already happened doesn't make sense.

00:27:48.000 You already granted the point in right that miracles are possible.

00:27:52.000 Possible is a strange word because 0.0 trillionth of a percent possible.

00:27:55.000 But you're just making up that probability.

00:27:57.000 But also the word miracle is vague.

00:27:59.000 You're making up that probability.

00:27:59.000 I agree.

00:28:00.000 It's not that vague.

00:28:01.000 You might see a crack of lightning that looks like a guy's face.

00:28:03.000 A miracle is a supernatural event.

00:28:06.000 Not a natural event, but a supernatural event.

00:28:08.000 But Ian, you are making up that probability.

00:28:09.000 That's not it.

00:28:10.000 Oh, no, absolutely.

00:28:11.000 None of us can quantify it.

00:28:12.000 Simply put, there is a difference.

00:28:14.000 Okay, I'll put it this way.

00:28:16.000 You make a video game.

00:28:18.000 You as the programmer can decide.

00:28:20.000 You're playing The Sims.

00:28:22.000 You can literally lift the person up, put them in a bathroom, and get rid of the door.

00:28:26.000 You can do that as the person in control of this universe.

00:28:29.000 I'll grant you this.

00:28:29.000 There might be a technology in the future where you can vibrate a woman's womb.

00:28:33.000 That's not... You're completely misunderstanding.

00:28:35.000 We always get to the vibrations.

00:28:36.000 Every time.

00:28:37.000 When I'm programming a video game, I can just right-click, insert object, and manifest a goblin.

00:28:43.000 There's no point at which I have to find a person and then draw on him and make him... No, like, when you're programming something, you can just put it there.

00:28:51.000 When you're playing Fallout and you want to build a treehouse, you click a button, boom, the treehouse appears.

00:28:55.000 There's a difference between you being a programmer who can make something happen, and in the game, a character deciding they are not what you made them.

00:29:04.000 It's a very good analogy.

00:29:06.000 If the power goes out, good luck convincing anyone we're in a simulation.

00:29:10.000 We're fantasizing about some ridiculous possibility because we have electricity.

00:29:14.000 I'm not trying to fantasize, I'm trying to point out that arguing someone who is biologically male, you can observe their DNA under an electron microscope and see they have X and Y chromosomes, coming out and saying actually after the surgery they're now female, because this is one component of this.

00:29:33.000 I often mention I'm sitting at poker tables because that tends to be what I'm doing on the weekends.

00:29:38.000 There was a dealer and someone brought up on the TV they were having a discussion about men and female sports.

00:29:43.000 And the dealer said something like it was kind of obvious the dealer was not taking kindly to all of these 30 to 40 year old men who were not happy with this.

00:29:53.000 They were grumbling about it.

00:29:54.000 And then I said something like, uh, the dealer said transgender females.

00:29:59.000 And I said, no, no, you mean transgender males. 1.00

00:30:01.000 A transgender female is a trans man, and a transgender male is a trans woman.

00:30:07.000 And he was like, no, wait, what?

00:30:09.000 He got upset about it.

00:30:09.000 No.

00:30:10.000 The point is, If someone is female and they are transgender, they have a womb, they have breasts, but they want to exhibit the characteristics of a male, that is a trans man. 0.97

00:30:23.000 What's happened now is the left is conflating.

00:30:25.000 They are saying female and woman mean the same thing now.

00:30:29.000 So you'll often hear people say transgender female to refer to a biological male who wants to be a woman.

00:30:36.000 They're confusing the language.

00:30:37.000 Well, it has to be confused because there's no argument for it.

00:30:41.000 And to your point, Ian, you're saying, well, I don't like magical thinking on the left, so I don't want magical thinking on the right either.

00:30:46.000 But the difference here is there are many good arguments for the existence of God.

00:30:52.000 And then we can get into miracles from the existence of God.

00:30:54.000 But there are many good arguments.

00:30:55.000 I could give you a 5 right now.

00:30:56.000 I could probably give you a 10 right now.

00:30:58.000 And there are no good arguments for transgenderism. 0.99

00:31:03.000 And so this is why we have theology.

00:31:05.000 This is why we've had very wise men for thousands of years discussing this in a reasoned way.

00:31:09.000 And this is why not even a esteemed scholar on transgenderism will show up to debate this issue.

00:31:16.000 So I think if we just follow logic.

00:31:20.000 You might choose not to believe in the miracles.

00:31:22.000 You might choose not to believe in God, even.

00:31:24.000 But there's a logical argument for that.

00:31:26.000 There is no logical argument.

00:31:27.000 I actually think God is logical at this state with quantum physics and the ability to see cosmic microwave background radiation.

00:31:32.000 It looks like a neural path.

00:31:33.000 And that's what Michael was saying about Logos and the embodiment of logic.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, it is.

00:31:36.000 It seems like a sentient waveform.

00:31:38.000 waves but I was talking about that.

00:31:39.000 God seeming as a sentient waveform doesn't necessarily mean that these miracles were

00:31:43.000 real just because someone told me they were.

00:31:46.000 But I'll make one more point, we're going to move to another story.

00:31:48.000 Oh my gosh, we're going to talk about this all night?

00:31:50.000 No, it's just because you're saying the same thing over and over again.

00:31:52.000 It's important because I think the transgender community is not taking your stuff seriously 1.00

00:31:55.000 because of that kind of, just accept it.

00:31:59.000 But you're, no, look, I read a book when I was 19 years old that I would say made me

00:32:04.000 believe in God.

00:32:05.000 I've told the stories about the conversations I've had with people who are religious when I view myself as an atheist.

00:32:10.000 And the book that I actually read was about quantum physics.

00:32:14.000 Putting electrons through conductors, and then trapping them to simulate elements and things of that nature, and the prospect that we could create one-dimensional sheets of an element, and then by altering the amount of electrons we push through the conductors, we could change the elemental properties and things like that.

00:32:30.000 I started reading that stuff, and then it made me start to think about the universe, think about simulation theory and logic, and then I was like, oh wow, I'm starting to see a bigger picture here.

00:32:41.000 Understanding that there is, like, we are in some kind of logical system.

00:32:48.000 The universe, it's hard to quantify, to be completely honest.

00:32:51.000 Well, the very fact that you're speaking in a way that is intelligible to me presupposes that there is such a thing as logic outside of ourselves, and it implies an intelligent creator.

00:33:00.000 I want to make sure I get this one before they try and take a clip.

00:33:02.000 My point is, humans write math.

00:33:06.000 We then create equations and solve problems, and humans have a degree of understanding of math.

00:33:12.000 That is not a human creation, it is humans mapping the logic of the universe.

00:33:17.000 Meaning, the logic of the universe exists to a massive degree well beyond our comprehension, and we have a tiny little flashlight that we're pointing in the dark and writing down what we see.

00:33:27.000 It's possible that after billions of years, humans create this big, huge quantum blackboard

00:33:32.000 showing all of the code that we would describe with the universe, and that is the logic

00:33:37.000 or whatever you describe it as, but we can only see a tiny piece of it.

00:33:41.000 It's real, it exists, and we're mapping it out.

00:33:43.000 Within the confines of that, to say something like, yes, this thing is discernibly wood,

00:33:50.000 it's a word we use to describe this carbon structure, I've decided it's a map.

00:33:56.000 That doesn't do anything.

00:33:58.000 Here's another example, 2 plus 2 equals 5, they say.

00:34:01.000 Well, no, it doesn't.

00:34:03.000 It's funny because when I was a teenager, I actually got into an argument with a friend of mine who was in high school, and they were teaching this back then.

00:34:09.000 I, I, she told me, one plus one does not equal two, that's a social construct.

00:34:14.000 And I said, what are you talking about? No, it isn't.

00:34:16.000 And I was like, I have a pen in this hand. I grabbed pens off her table.

00:34:18.000 I was like, here's a pen, here's a pen. I have one pen here, one pen here.

00:34:21.000 There's two pens in my hand. There will never be a circumstance where that is three pens.

00:34:25.000 And then she's like, you don't understand. And I was like, no, I don't think you understand.

00:34:29.000 But I don't want to, I don't want to go in circles on that.

00:34:30.000 I do want to move on to the next story.

00:34:32.000 We'll maybe come back in the members-only stuff and get more deep.

00:34:36.000 Yeah, I want to solve this big time.

00:34:37.000 And Seamus is back on Sunday.

00:34:38.000 Music's the other way.

00:34:39.000 Music's the proactive way that I think brings us together.

00:34:43.000 Talking about the literal logics of what we're doing wrong is another harder... Though music's very logical.

00:34:47.000 Oh yeah.

00:34:48.000 At least we didn't get into that in that member block.

00:34:49.000 And there's correlation to like the human heartbeat, and blood flow, and the vibrations and stuff.

00:34:54.000 But let's read the story from the Post Malone.

00:34:55.000 Oh, this one's interesting.

00:34:57.000 Wired writer suspended from Twitter after using platform to solicit and receive Matt Walsh's hacked materials.

00:35:04.000 Del Cameron said, prove me wrong kids, send Matt Walsh DMs to, and then posted his email address.

00:35:11.000 They say on Wednesday, Wired senior reporter Del Cameron was permanently suspended from Twitter, permanently, after he asked for and obtained hacked materials from Matt Walsh's Twitter account.

00:35:21.000 Quote, spoke with the hacker who says he compromised Matt Walsh's account.

00:35:25.000 And who was able to supply some convincing proof they'd gain access to his personal email account.

00:35:30.000 Story to come.

00:35:31.000 Or Story TK.

00:35:33.000 I think that means coming soon.

00:35:35.000 A tweet just after midnight read.

00:35:37.000 In a post to Mastodon, Cameron stated that he just got permanently suspended for publishing this story, linking to an article he wrote titled, The Hacker Who Hijacked Matt Walsh's Twitter Was Just Bored.

00:35:47.000 Another post revealed that Cameron was suspended from Twitter for violations of the social media's policies against the distribution of hacked materials.

00:35:54.000 The story alleges that the hacker provided screenshots of an apparent copy of Matt Walsh's W-2 tax form, which lists his employer as Bent Key Services LLC, the publisher of the Daily Wire.

00:36:04.000 A direct message on Twitter from Shapiro from 2017, emails between Walsh and the conservative commentator Crowder, host of Lodworth Crowder's podcast, dated March 14th, etc, etc.

00:36:13.000 I don't want to go through all that because I don't want to actually reveal any of that private information.

00:36:17.000 But this just goes to show, in my opinion, many of these corporate journalists, they're working in collusion with, in tandem with, the people who are sending threats, who are intimidating. 0.52

00:36:27.000 There was a story of, I think it was a Condé Nast executive, who was, um, He was, uh, he was gay, and I think he was trying to have some kind of gay hookup.

00:36:38.000 I can't remember the exact story, but a blackmailer got access to the information and said, if you don't give me money, I will give this to journalists.

00:36:46.000 And I think it was Gawker, I could be wrong, but the journalists were like, we would love to publish this and basically collude with a blackmailer.

00:36:53.000 What Del Cameron is doing here, this Wired reporter, is basically saying we will be the the the information laundering service for those that want to destroy your life and harass and intimidate and cause you harm.

00:37:06.000 So Matt Walsh, who clearly has ideological enemies, will seek out, the enemies will seek out any means by which they can cause damage to him.

00:37:14.000 And this is, quote-unquote, journalists doing it.

00:37:17.000 The great irony of this is the journos, who I think very few people on the right have any respect for anymore, but they're understanding what you've pointed out, Tim, which is that they just work with these political operatives.

00:37:28.000 But the journalists always present themselves as the brave fourth estate speaking truth

00:37:33.000 to power on the front lines.

00:37:36.000 And the irony here is Matt Walsh is actually one of the most important journalists in America.

00:37:42.000 Matt Walsh is doing much more important journalistic work than any of these people at any of these

00:37:47.000 liberal publications.

00:37:49.000 And so they, left-wing political operatives, are doing everything they can to attack an

00:37:54.000 actual journalist by the name of Matt Walsh.

00:37:56.000 I think Matt's gonna sue this guy.

00:37:58.000 Didn't name him by name, but he tweeted an hour ago.

00:38:00.000 I've also made note of the members of the media who openly solicited stolen information from my phone.

00:38:04.000 I'm kind of talking like Matt would talk, too.

00:38:06.000 There'll be consequences there, too.

00:38:08.000 Fortunately, we can afford very good lawyers.

00:38:10.000 Oh, wow.

00:38:10.000 Let me try and pull that up.

00:38:11.000 That is on his Twitter account.

00:38:14.000 Yeah, Matt pulls no punches, man.

00:38:16.000 Metaphorically.

00:38:17.000 Spiritually.

00:38:18.000 You don't go after that guy.

00:38:19.000 Well, this is also the reason that we sell a lot of chocolate and razors and why Daily Wire is a for-profit company.

00:38:26.000 The only way to fight back against any of these people is to have a lot of money that we can translate into power so that these guys don't do what they're doing against Matt or me or Brett Cooper just got booted from TikTok today.

00:38:40.000 Yeah.

00:38:40.000 Really?

00:38:41.000 They're just, I don't know, the last 48 hours has been open season on The Daily Wire.

00:38:41.000 Wow.

00:38:46.000 But the reason that we need to have a lot of money is so that we can fight back and punish these guys when they do it so they don't do it against everybody else.

00:38:53.000 Could it have anything to do with the launch of the delicious She-Her He-Him Chocolate Bars by Jeremy's Chocolate?

00:38:58.000 I'm more of a He-Him man myself. 0.99

00:39:00.000 You know Media Matters is going to clip that one out.

00:39:03.000 It's good.

00:39:03.000 The nut one is very good, but the She-Her is good as well.

00:39:05.000 It's actually really good.

00:39:06.000 This is actually really funny.

00:39:09.000 I looked on the back of the ingredients.

00:39:10.000 Fair trade cocoa butter, fair trade cane sugar, dried milk powder, fair trade cocoa powder.

00:39:15.000 Soy-free.

00:39:17.000 It actually does say soy-free.

00:39:20.000 No seed oils.

00:39:21.000 Oh, really?

00:39:22.000 I'll tell you something.

00:39:22.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:39:23.000 So Jeremy insists that if he is going to tell a joke, it has to be a very, very expensive joke.

00:39:30.000 And so we decided early on, we could have just sold schlock kind of products and people probably would have bought them and it would have been fine.

00:39:36.000 No.

00:39:38.000 We insist upon the highest quality products that we can possibly find.

00:39:43.000 There's a lot of crunchy people at DW.

00:39:45.000 My wife has really pushed for that as well.

00:39:47.000 So it's extraordinarily high quality stuff.

00:39:49.000 It's really good.

00:39:50.000 No, no joke.

00:39:51.000 Crunchy people like this.

00:39:52.000 I was just kidding.

00:39:53.000 I only read that because I saw the soy free in it.

00:39:59.000 This has been one of the big realignments, is that when I was growing up, when we were all growing up, the libs were the crunchy people and the conservatives were just slopping down all sorts of corporate hormone-injected food, and now it's completely the opposite.

00:40:11.000 It's the libs lining up for just soy, seed oil city, and it's the conservatives who are buying the $12 eggs.

00:40:20.000 Like a sea change in 2012, something about Barack Obama and people just following the media narrative and just buying the Pfizer and buying the Coca-Cola and doing what the commission said.

00:40:29.000 To be fair, Trump, you know, he loves McDonald's.

00:40:31.000 He loves McDonald's.

00:40:32.000 And I love that he loves McDonald's.

00:40:34.000 I won't go near it, you know.

00:40:34.000 I agree.

00:40:36.000 He is more aspartame now than man, I would say, and it has preserved him fairly well.

00:40:40.000 So maybe that's a good argument.

00:40:41.000 And a well-done steak.

00:40:43.000 That's what sustains him.

00:40:46.000 No high fructose corn syrup, no corn syrup.

00:40:48.000 Oh, no.

00:40:49.000 There's, let's see, one, two, three, four ingredients in this thing.

00:40:52.000 That's college-educated chocolate right there.

00:40:55.000 These days, I guess, probably not.

00:40:57.000 Let me read Matt Walsh's statement.

00:40:59.000 I was actually going to do that.

00:41:01.000 Matt Wall said, over the last year, my family has been harassed, threatened, doxxed, and now we can add hack to the list.

00:41:06.000 Apparently the hacker had an insider who gave him access to my phone.

00:41:10.000 A lot we still don't know, but we're finding out, and there will be consequences.

00:41:14.000 He says, I have also made note of the members of the media who openly solicited stolen information from my phone.

00:41:20.000 There will be consequences there too.

00:41:23.000 Fortunately, we can afford very good lawyers.

00:41:26.000 Yeah, we're gonna be suing ourselves, Bandcamp.

00:41:31.000 So, uh, they took down me, Bryson Gray, five times August, probably a couple others.

00:41:37.000 Um, I don't know how much I should say, though, but, uh, apparently they're lying publicly and internally about what happened, so we actually have, you know, I probably shouldn't say too much.

00:41:49.000 Now I gotta know, you can't just leave that at the table.

00:41:52.000 But for legal reasons, like, because we're gonna enter litigation, most likely, probably can't say too much, but I guess in this regard, perhaps it would be good that they know this, that we actually, uh, have received, uh, I'll keep it as light as possible.

00:42:06.000 Let's just say I have evidence that they're spreading defamation to defend, to preempt.

00:42:13.000 Right.

00:42:14.000 We were, our band and several others were removed without notice.

00:42:17.000 We don't know if they're holding our money.

00:42:18.000 We don't know what's going on.

00:42:20.000 And so to justify that, apparently they're lying about what really happened.

00:42:24.000 But, you know, we'll see.

00:42:26.000 It should come out in discovery.

00:42:27.000 But I digress.

00:42:27.000 I bring that up simply to point out.

00:42:29.000 Very good lawyers from the Daily Wire.

00:42:31.000 Action needed to be taken.

00:42:32.000 This is really important.

00:42:33.000 Conservatives, for a long time, we've just been so nice.

00:42:36.000 And I still think we should be just and do the right thing and virtuous.

00:42:41.000 But we got to be a little less nice, okay?

00:42:43.000 I think we need to start wielding power a little bit more.

00:42:46.000 I think we've got to engage in lawfare.

00:42:48.000 People always think that the threshold for defamation suits is too high because of the ridiculous standards set by New York Times versus Sullivan.

00:42:54.000 One, that decision should have been overturned.

00:42:57.000 It should be much easier to sue people for intentionally lying about you. 0.95

00:42:57.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

00:43:01.000 But two, you can see now, when conservatives push back at all, and when we've got a little power and money behind us, people cave. 0.77

00:43:09.000 Rolling Stone caved.

00:43:10.000 Daily Beast caved when they defamed me after the CPAC speech.

00:43:13.000 And we're going to sick the same kind of lawyers on the people that went after Matt.

00:43:17.000 What happened with that, when they defamed you? 0.88

00:43:19.000 So they came out, they said that I called at CPAC to eradicate transgender people.

00:43:23.000 They rewrote what I said, they put words into my mouth. 0.96

00:43:26.000 And then Daily Beast called me genocidal.

00:43:28.000 So I tweeted out, I said, you know, this is defamation, this meets the actual malice standard.

00:43:34.000 And I had some pretty important constitutional lawyers who agreed with me.

00:43:37.000 Senator Mike Lee came out right away as a Supreme Court litigator, U.S.

00:43:40.000 Senator.

00:43:41.000 He said, this meets that standard, you should sue these guys.

00:43:44.000 A number of other people did.

00:43:46.000 Those guys went running.

00:43:47.000 I'm sure the editors got a call from their lawyers that said, you've got to change this, because though the standard is high, you have crossed it.

00:43:53.000 So they caved in two seconds.

00:43:55.000 It just takes a little bit of courage.

00:43:57.000 I sometimes think that the libs, they're like the sand people in Star Wars, you know? 0.92

00:44:02.000 The Jawas?

00:44:02.000 No, the sand people.

00:44:06.000 They try to inflate their numbers, but they're cowards, and they don't have really a lot on their side.

00:44:12.000 So if you just have a little bit of backbone, they're not impossible to defeat.

00:44:16.000 And that's so right, man.

00:44:16.000 And that's why the Anheuser thing I think is so important, because it's the easiest.

00:44:20.000 And you can already see that Anheuser-Busch is kind of freaking out about it.

00:44:24.000 But I guess in that regard, Jeremy's beer won?

00:44:27.000 Listen, I texted him this morning.

00:44:28.000 I texted him this morning.

00:44:29.000 I said, man, I know you're busy.

00:44:31.000 You're doing a million things.

00:44:32.000 You have dropped the ball here, OK?

00:44:35.000 And you clearly, there's too much money floating around the daily wire.

00:44:39.000 We're too cash positive.

00:44:40.000 You've got to burn that money on a beer company so that we can all laugh.

00:44:45.000 Here's what we're going to do.

00:44:47.000 We here at Timcast are going to make a generic website and we're going to get a URL that can be universal and we'll call it, I don't know, like, you know, Something product.

00:44:58.000 Great product, whatever.

00:45:00.000 And then whichever brand makes the first step over the line in some kooky wokeness, we'll immediately mock up some graphics, drop it onto the site, and start selling whatever it is, and then worry about sourcing it later.

00:45:12.000 Yes, of course.

00:45:13.000 Of course.

00:45:14.000 And the Budweiser thing here has been instructive because, yeah, Budweiser loses $6.5 billion in market cap.

00:45:21.000 They could have gotten that back if they would just shut up. 0.93

00:45:23.000 It's unbelievable.

00:45:24.000 They keep changing their story every single day.

00:45:26.000 They should apologize.

00:45:27.000 They can apologize, but initially they defended it, then they tried to pretend they didn't know about it, then they tried to split the baby with this crisis communication stuff. 0.94

00:45:34.000 Then they made that stupid horse commercial that appealed to nobody. 0.96

00:45:38.000 And so they keep blowing it here. 0.99

00:45:40.000 But the bigger story, I think, is not even the hit to Anheuser-Busch.

00:45:43.000 I think the bigger story is the hit to Dylan Mulvaney's brand.

00:45:47.000 Because I'm not convinced, after this huge, unprecedented blowback against Bud Light, do you think other companies are going to be so quick to sponsor this guy? 0.99

00:45:56.000 They made him look like a fool. 0.97

00:45:57.000 It's still happening. 0.99

00:45:58.000 They're gonna say- Well, you see he has a lot still.

00:46:00.000 They dragged him.

00:46:01.000 And there will be some brands that will do it for sure.

00:46:02.000 Woke brands and lettuce companies will absolutely celebrate it.

00:46:06.000 And bigger companies are gonna say, look, we appreciate you bringing this offer to us.

00:46:10.000 We're not interested at this time.

00:46:11.000 It's gonna be very just no thank you.

00:46:12.000 Didn't the brand Olay take him on after Bud Light?

00:46:17.000 I thought Olay already had it.

00:46:18.000 It's hard.

00:46:19.000 He's got like a dozen sponsorships.

00:46:21.000 It's insane.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:22.000 But I tend to agree with you, Tim.

00:46:23.000 I just think six and a half a bill in market cap, that's a lot to lose.

00:46:27.000 And I always think it's important to stress this point for those who watch all the episodes.

00:46:31.000 You've heard me say it, but just whenever I repeat stuff like this in multiple episodes, understand it's because not everyone watches every show.

00:46:38.000 But, uh, Dylan Mulvaney's not trans, and this was said to me by multiple trans people, citing one very powerful example.

00:46:46.000 Dylan Mulvaney making a video pointing to his bulge and saying, look at my bulge, look at my bulge.

00:46:50.000 The issue is that people who are gender dysphoric feel pain, depression, and anxiety from those attributes.

00:46:56.000 That's what they're suffering from.

00:46:57.000 Gender dysphoria, quite literally, would be a person saying, like, don't look at me, don't look at this part of my body, it causes me anxiety.

00:47:04.000 Dylan Mulvaney making a video saying, women have bulges, look at my bulge.

00:47:08.000 Is the antithesis of what gender dysphoria is supposed to be.

00:47:11.000 Yeah, you mentioned earlier the time for being nice is not now and I agree because like nice is like Oh, someone's gonna say that they're a girl when it's a guy and I'm like, okay I'll just not say anything because I want to be nice now be nice.

00:47:23.000 I'm it's different.

00:47:23.000 I'm being friendly I'll tell you to your face what I think but I still love you That's being friendly and I think what it is is meekness.

00:47:30.000 We need to be meek, which is humble and kind, but carry a big sword and do not mess around.

00:47:37.000 This is something Jordan Peterson has talked about a lot.

00:47:39.000 The meek shall inherit the earth. 1.00

00:47:40.000 It's the ones that are vastly wealthy, are not afraid to speak the truth to someone,

00:47:46.000 but also willing to listen.

00:47:48.000 That's what we need.

00:47:49.000 I think, I don't know that Jordan was the first to say that, but I do like the idea

00:47:51.000 of the meek shall inherit the earth. 1.00

00:47:53.000 Yeah, well it's in the Bible.

00:47:55.000 I think it's from the Bible.

00:47:57.000 One of Jordan's favorite books.

00:47:58.000 He was explaining how people think weak and meek are the same thing, and that's a big misconception.

00:48:02.000 Yeah, no, it's a very important point.

00:48:05.000 And, you know, when we try to parse the truth of this issue, because I agree, Tim, there's

00:48:10.000 obviously something weird going on with Dylan Mulvaney here that isn't true of all people

00:48:14.000 who have sexual confusion, but there are different types of transgenderism.

00:48:18.000 Dr. Ray Blanchard made a point that he discovered two different types of transgender people, which is Homosexuals who like the idea of being a woman, and people with autogynephilia, people who have a sexual fetish, who are aroused at the prospect of dressing up like a woman.

00:48:36.000 That's the traditional understanding of cross-dressing.

00:48:38.000 The first one would be gender dysphoria, is that what you're saying?

00:48:40.000 Well, they're both a kind of a gender dysphoria, but it's a really complex issue.

00:48:45.000 A good analogy for this would be body integrity disorder, which body integrity disorder shares a lot of the same attributes.

00:48:52.000 Obviously, it's a defect of perception about your body.

00:48:55.000 It often sets in early on between the ages of 8 and 12.

00:48:59.000 There may be some mapping onto the brain to explain it, though a lot of those studies seem kind of a little shallow as well.

00:49:07.000 Often, though not all the time, this disorder is associated with sexual arousal, that it has an association with a kind of a paraphilia or a sexual fetish.

00:49:15.000 So it's virtually identical to transgenderism. 0.97

00:49:18.000 Well, I will add to that, there's three different kinds that I believe that we've seen publicly.

00:49:25.000 The two you mentioned, but then Dylan Mulvaney represents a third, and that is pseudotransgenderism. 0.59

00:49:32.000 Professional actor.

00:49:33.000 Professional actor.

00:49:34.000 Yoga instructor.

00:49:35.000 Dylan Mulvaney is just trying to be famous.

00:49:37.000 It's like relentless self-promoters that use transgenderism as a way to infiltrate institutions of power. 0.98

00:49:45.000 That might be a little bit overthinking it.

00:49:46.000 Dylan Mulvaney is like, I'm going to be famous.

00:49:48.000 Ooh, look at this.

00:49:48.000 It's giving me attention.

00:49:49.000 So I'll use both of those examples.

00:49:51.000 Let's assume, I think it was Michael Malice who said that Dylan Mulvaney is acting out a fetish.

00:49:55.000 And this probably comes from Michael's personal friendships with trans individuals. 0.65

00:50:01.000 I thought you were gonna say his personal perversions and fetishes.

00:50:04.000 No, that too, but... Michael's friends with some trans people, and this is probably the experience he's had with them and things they've explained to him.

00:50:11.000 So, is Dylan Mulvaney acting out a fetish?

00:50:13.000 I don't believe so.

00:50:14.000 If it is, I think it was Leah Thomas, who was accused of being what they call AGP autogynophilic, meaning that it's a fetish, that they're aroused by this.

00:50:24.000 Well, Dylan Mulvaney would not be making a video singing, look at my bulge, look at my bulge, because the fetish is, look at me, I'm a woman, right? 0.98

00:50:31.000 If it was gender dysphoria, where the person experiences a state of dysphoria from looking in the mirror and seeing the wrong body, they also would not sing about their junk. 0.71

00:50:41.000 Dylan Mulvaney, fundamentally misunderstanding what transgenderism is, made a video singing, Because this is just, he's like, I'm me, and therefore— Well, for years I've been hearing, you know, not all trans people have dysphoria, and that's okay. 0.82

00:50:56.000 Not all trans people take hormones, and that's okay. 1.00

00:50:59.000 And then essentially, anybody can adopt the identity with zero consequences.

00:51:03.000 Well, I mean, this is just modern wokeism and leftism.

00:51:05.000 It's just like, definitions mean nothing.

00:51:08.000 But I do want to stress this.

00:51:10.000 Post-modernism.

00:51:11.000 That book right there.

00:51:12.000 You know, I've never actually looked into it.

00:51:14.000 I've seen the screenshots.

00:51:15.000 And it's the book Genderqueer, and you will probably not be surprised to learn that in the book, the woman who claims to be non-binary explains that she's an autoandrophile, meaning that her desire to be perceived as a male is rooted in her sexual arousal from being treated as a male. 0.55

00:51:32.000 Of course.

00:51:33.000 So when this woman is a teacher talking to children, telling them to say that she's a man, she explains it's

00:51:39.000 actually her fetish to be perceived that way. 0.96

00:51:41.000 She's including children in her sexual arousal, which I'm surprised conservatives, more conservatives, haven't 0.87

00:51:47.000 actually looked at this and said, hey, wait a minute.

00:51:49.000 First of all, it's kind of hard to look at. Yeah, she, well, there's a lot in there. 0.93

00:51:52.000 She couldn't read until she was 12.

00:51:53.000 Her parents had her peeing in the yard. 0.99

00:51:55.000 She was not socialized properly by her parents.

00:51:58.000 She never shaved her legs.

00:51:59.000 She never showered.

00:52:00.000 She would wear crusted, dried pads for days on end to the point where she smelled like feces and the school had to pull her aside and say, something is wrong here.

00:52:08.000 And then she later goes on to explain how she is sexually aroused at the thought of being perceived as a man and that she pushes that onto other people.

00:52:15.000 I think conservatives would do themselves a great service in understanding that.

00:52:18.000 The libs are open about this though.

00:52:19.000 That's why they say don't kink shame, right? 1.00

00:52:23.000 I think now on social media you're not allowed to make fun of people's fetishes no matter how weird.

00:52:27.000 I think that's one of the rules on some of the big tech platforms.

00:52:30.000 And this follows naturally from the idea that your sexual desires, no matter how deviant, are some wholly protected matter.

00:52:37.000 Well, let's jump to this story, actually, that you brought that up.

00:52:40.000 This is from TimCast.com.

00:52:41.000 Twitter removes portion of hateful conduct policy that prohibited deadnaming and misgendering transgender people.

00:52:48.000 Based.

00:52:48.000 The platform has prohibited using pronouns matching a trans person's biological sex since 2018.

00:52:53.000 The policy appears to have been changed on April 8th.

00:52:55.000 An archived version of the page from April 7th still stated those rules.

00:52:59.000 I'm just gonna say it again.

00:52:59.000 has since been removed. Instead, the policy now states the platform prohibits targeting

00:53:02.000 others with perpetrated slurs, tropes, or other content that intends to degrade or reinforce

00:53:07.000 negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category.

00:53:09.000 I'm just going to say it again. I know I'm the low guy on the totem pole in this regard,

00:53:14.000 but Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, me having a follow up to the Jack Dorsey, Vijay Gada episode

00:53:19.000 we did, I think would be absolutely tremendous.

00:53:22.000 But like I said, I'm the low guy.

00:53:23.000 Obviously, I'd love to be sitting in a room with Elon and Joe Rogan, but at least I can say that follow-up, I think, would be very important because this was a core component of it.

00:53:32.000 It's so important, too.

00:53:33.000 You think about, there's this guy Charles Clymer, who is a trans activist, and he's very far left.

00:53:39.000 I think he worked for the Human Rights Campaign. 0.86

00:53:41.000 He worked for this ridiculous group called Catholics for Choice, a pro-abortion Catholic group. 0.90

00:53:46.000 Yeah, not the most coherent kind of group. 0.96

00:53:50.000 And if the policy were in place, that you couldn't refer to Charles Clymer, you have to call him whatever girl name he goes by.

00:53:57.000 This would be very convenient for Charles because he has a bit of a dodgy past back

00:54:02.000 when he was Charles and got into some political scandals.

00:54:05.000 So if you're not allowed to refer to Charles, all of a sudden, wow, how nice, all of these

00:54:11.000 problems and scandals go away.

00:54:13.000 No longer a Google search away.

00:54:14.000 Exactly.

00:54:15.000 Well, I think the other issue with it is where is the line in what someone is allowed to

00:54:20.000 And this is a huge component.

00:54:22.000 So back in, I think, 2018, I was looking at New York City's laws, and they identify 31 genders, but the law explicitly states infinite genders exist, because it defines gender expression as self-expression.

00:54:38.000 And so they say that you can't discriminate in public accommodations based on the clothing a person wears, the name they go by.

00:54:44.000 And if that's the case, what is the legal limit?

00:54:48.000 So I asked a human rights lawyer, and they said, well, obviously there's a reasonableness expectation in the law.

00:54:54.000 The assumption is with this law, if a person is transgender, they're discernibly male, but wearing a dress, you can't fire them. 0.99

00:55:00.000 If they're discernibly male, but going by the name Susan, you can't fire them.

00:55:03.000 And so I asked a couple of human rights lawyers, If somebody went to Starbucks and applied for a job, then showed up on day one in a fursuit, and they called themselves Vulciferon, Herald of the Winter Mists, would Starbucks be able to fire them for this?

00:55:20.000 And they said, yes, of course, that's ridiculous.

00:55:23.000 And I said, well, why can't they sue under that very same law that that is their gender expression? 0.96

00:55:30.000 And what I was told was a judge would laugh them out of the courtroom.

00:55:35.000 And then I said, what if the judge doesn't like trans people and laughs at the man in a dress?

00:55:40.000 What's the difference?

00:55:41.000 And they didn't have an answer.

00:55:42.000 Well, and you know, the case that established a lot of this is that Harris Funeral Home case from just a few years ago, in which we're talking about a funeral home here.

00:55:50.000 So the customers at funeral homes are very, very vulnerable.

00:55:53.000 They're grieving their loved ones.

00:55:54.000 And there was this dude who decided that he wants to be a chick, and so he started wearing skirts to work.

00:56:01.000 And the owner of the funeral home said, uh, hey man, I don't know what you're getting into, but, you know, you've got to have some respect for the mourners.

00:56:07.000 Skirts are not appropriate for funerals.

00:56:08.000 Skirts are not appropriate.

00:56:09.000 This isn't about you, man.

00:56:10.000 You know, this is about the people who are mourning.

00:56:13.000 And he sued him, went all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court decided that that man's sexual fetish was more important than people's right to mourn in a respectable environment.

00:56:23.000 But think about how crazy this is.

00:56:25.000 If you have a funeral home, the issue is not that we don't like that you're wearing a dress.

00:56:30.000 I mean, kilts exist.

00:56:31.000 They're similar in a certain respect.

00:56:32.000 We're talking about you respecting someone whose loved one died, and there's formal attire requirements.

00:56:38.000 With New York City's law, they've basically abolished uniforms.

00:56:43.000 It says you can't discriminate based on what someone wears in public accommodation.

00:56:46.000 So if I show up at Starbucks wearing a clown costume, let's just be reasonable.

00:56:49.000 I'll show up wearing jeans and a t-shirt and say, you can't make me wear those clothes because those are man clothes.

00:56:55.000 They can't do anything about it.

00:56:57.000 The astounding thing, however, to me was, and this is honestly a big revelation for me in understanding law.

00:57:03.000 A judge will laugh a person out of a courtroom. 0.72

00:57:06.000 And then I said, then there will be many judges who are gonna see a man wearing a dress and laugh and say, get out of my courtroom, this is ridiculous. 0.92

00:57:14.000 Where's the line?

00:57:15.000 And what I was told is, well, judges make those determinations.

00:57:19.000 They're the human interpretation of the law.

00:57:21.000 And then I went, interesting.

00:57:23.000 The law doesn't matter.

00:57:24.000 The only thing that does is the culture.

00:57:26.000 If the culture tolerates men and women cross-dressing in public, then the judge will defend it. 0.99

00:57:32.000 If the culture tolerates fursuits, the judge will defend it. 1.00

00:57:36.000 And right now it seems the fursuit goes over the line.

00:57:39.000 But I'd say in three or four years, you will see people in full fursuits at Starbucks serving your coffee.

00:57:44.000 Of course.

00:57:44.000 And notice when you say we've now got the abolition of uniforms.

00:57:49.000 This is always the result of these kind of leftist policies that is specifically focused on trans right now, but all of these leftist policies is this constant leveling and lowering down and abolition of standards.

00:58:02.000 So the answer that people give on the middle ground on the bathrooms is what you said earlier, which is, well, let's just all have unisex bathrooms and we'll just all have individual bathrooms.

00:58:10.000 What's the answer in sports teams?

00:58:11.000 Oh, we'll all just have our own sports teams or something.

00:58:14.000 What's the answer?

00:58:15.000 And so what happens is we all just become this undifferentiated, androgynous consumer. 0.80

00:58:22.000 That's all we are now.

00:58:24.000 I don't want to sound like a commie or something.

00:58:26.000 But this is being pushed not just by the leftist activists, it's being pushed by the entire liberal establishment and by corporate America and the whole power structure, which is just to take away all the ornamentation, all the differentiation, all the natural, lovely diversity of life, and make us all just a bunch of blobs to buy a bunch of hormones and purchase their product.

00:58:46.000 Uniform actually means the same.

00:58:48.000 One form.

00:58:49.000 That's what uniform is for, is to make all the same.

00:58:51.000 So they're stripping away the communist sameness of everything to create a weird world to then reconfigure it so that everyone... Well, yeah.

00:58:59.000 Instead of having different kinds of uniforms in different areas of life for men and women, now it's literally we will just be uniform, undifferentiated blobs plugged into our computers and living in the metaverse and eating bugs.

00:59:10.000 I think that's absolutely where we're going.

00:59:14.000 The deepfakery is getting so advanced so rapidly.

00:59:18.000 Last time I was on Rogan, I said I didn't think it was that big of a deal, and I was so wrong and so naive.

00:59:24.000 Because I was looking at the modern iterations of deepfakes and I was just like, I'm not worried about that. 1.00

00:59:28.000 I didn't stop to consider the rapid degree of advancement.

00:59:32.000 How long ago was that when you were on Rogan?

00:59:33.000 This was a year and a half ago.

00:59:34.000 A year and a half.

00:59:35.000 Think about how fast AI has advanced so far in six months.

00:59:39.000 A year and a half ago, there was like one program that had accomplished voice manipulation, and there were some goofy videos that were low-res, and I was just like, I'm not worried about this.

00:59:49.000 And then, within a year and a half, it advanced to the point where I was on Instagram, and I saw a Rogan clip, and it's Joe advertising some, I think it was penis growth or something like that?

01:00:02.000 Some weird testosterone booster thing? 0.62

01:00:04.000 And I was like, whoa!

01:00:07.000 It was, if you watched it, you were like, that's a deepfake.

01:00:11.000 If you were just passing through, you might not have noticed, and that's when I was like, oh man.

01:00:15.000 Now, we have that Eleven Labs website, Where you can take 30 seconds of anyone talking, drop it in, and you can make them say whatever you want.

01:00:22.000 Now I'm like, imagine what it's going to be like in a year.

01:00:26.000 There is going to be a deepfake of Donald Trump giving a speech that looks completely real.

01:00:31.000 He will say something kind of bad, but not really that bad, but bad enough to lose votes.

01:00:35.000 And no matter what anyone says, the left will believe it.

01:00:38.000 I wonder if it'll get to the point where there'll be two presidents, according to everyone, and no one will know which one's the real one and which one's the fake one.

01:00:44.000 That's a good point because yes, because someone will make a deep fake clip of CNN and put

01:00:49.000 it on Twitter by a verification.

01:00:52.000 And then it'll be Don Lemon saying Donald Trump has been reelected this 2024 and then

01:00:58.000 people are going to see the clips and they're going to believe it.

01:01:00.000 I mean, that's going to happen.

01:01:01.000 This AI stuff is actually the end of society.

01:01:05.000 I know people like to claim that all sorts of advancements and innovations are the end of society.

01:01:09.000 This one actually is because it impels people to just retreat into themselves for everything.

01:01:18.000 So now we will retreat into our own fantasies for art.

01:01:22.000 It makes great art.

01:01:23.000 So the art that I put up on my walls, I can just type it into Midjourney or any of them and get a beautiful piece of art.

01:01:31.000 You'll be able to create these deep fakes of Video and audio.

01:01:35.000 It's obviously going to be applied to porn.

01:01:37.000 I assume it actually probably already is being applied to porn, is it?

01:01:40.000 Yeah.

01:01:40.000 And I'm sure in the future, I'm sure it will be.

01:01:42.000 And so people will have no reason to engage in reality because, one, you won't have any common referent to talk about.

01:01:49.000 You'll just have, I'll have my video of Trump and you'll have your video of Trump and we'll both have made them up.

01:01:55.000 I'll have my fantasy that I'm living in, be it personal, be it entertainment, be it Be it sex, be it anything.

01:02:02.000 And we'll all just be living in our pods, plugged into our own fantasies.

01:02:07.000 That is the end of community.

01:02:08.000 The only thing I can think that would change that, or one of the things, is if the power goes out.

01:02:12.000 And I don't want the power to go out, but if it did, then the artificial intelligence would die.

01:02:17.000 I'm not laughing at you, I'm sorry.

01:02:19.000 But there's ways to make perpetual electricity, and I'm concerned about that.

01:02:22.000 This is why solar, wind, geothermal... We're tapping the vacuum.

01:02:25.000 I mean, it's possible.

01:02:25.000 And an AI will figure out how to do that.

01:02:27.000 But this is why they're so hell-bent on pushing that.

01:02:29.000 Because they wanna create, my pitch, I actually pitched this, half pitched it to you guys with The Daily Wire, an idea for a show where I'll try and give the super simple version.

01:02:40.000 It takes place in a world that's like, civilizations collapse, there's only one city left, and it's people, it's like the year 2130, technology is comparable to what it is now.

01:02:50.000 A conflict emerges between very thin, tall, humanoid beings in white jumpsuits with chrome heads who can shoot lasers, humans fight.

01:02:59.000 No one knows how civilization collapsed, but they assume these creatures must have wiped out the planet, some kind of aliens.

01:03:05.000 And then in the final episode of the season or whatever, you know, there's a fight and then someone hits like a crane release which drops a boulder or a car onto one of these creatures and crushes it.

01:03:16.000 Disabling its force fields, they pull the chrome helmet off, and it's a human.

01:03:20.000 And the reveal is that society didn't collapse.

01:03:23.000 It migrated underground into pods, where humans all networked themselves with neural links into a virtual world.

01:03:29.000 And the reason why the last city was unaware of what happened to humanity is the news didn't stop.

01:03:34.000 News was still being written, but it migrated.

01:03:37.000 My example is, if someone came from the year 1900 to this time period, they'd immediately be like, get me a newspaper so I can learn about what's happening in the world!

01:03:45.000 And then they would find that newspapers slowly started to disappear.

01:03:48.000 If someone from the 1900s jumped 200 years in the future, and then just tried to take a look at history based on their understanding of how to look through history, they would be like, newspapers ceased to exist in the year 2075.

01:03:59.000 History was gone.

01:04:00.000 We have no idea what happened.

01:04:01.000 Humans?

01:04:02.000 No, it just went online.

01:04:03.000 So my idea for this show is there will be some humans who never migrate, and they will not have access to the metaverse historical archive.

01:04:15.000 So to them, they'll just, like, their great-grandchildren will be like, we don't know exactly what happened, but some kind of collapse happened, and we have no access.

01:04:23.000 We just find these old records, these old websites and stuff and servers.

01:04:26.000 We try to boot up and figure out where they all went.

01:04:29.000 The problem for those metaverse records, though, is that when everything is digital, you can just constantly change the records.

01:04:35.000 This is the one of the prophecies of 1984.

01:04:37.000 And that's actually a component.

01:04:39.000 This show would be fantastic because the people who live in the metaverse would have a warped view of reality because there would be oligarchs who rewrite history.

01:04:46.000 But then the people who live in the real world with the physical unalterable will like meet one of these people in the metaverse and be like, look at these archives that we've brought.

01:04:54.000 And they'll be like, that's not history, and they'll pull up Wikipedia to show history, and it'll be last edited yesterday, and they'll be like, this book hasn't been re-edited in 300 years.

01:05:04.000 This is all very scary, but I think what Mark Zuckerberg is trying to sell is like, what if you had Zoom meetings, but you were an octopus?

01:05:12.000 And I'm just like, I don't know what to do with this information.

01:05:15.000 Well, Ian mentioned earlier, like, you could identify as a carrot, you know?

01:05:19.000 Yeah.

01:05:19.000 Like, you're gonna be in the metaverse on Tinder, and you're gonna be, like, a carrot, a dog, a toaster, a VW van.

01:05:26.000 Swiping past fursonas. 0.90

01:05:28.000 Oh, a person!

01:05:28.000 Swipe!

01:05:30.000 Swipe around the person.

01:05:30.000 That gets back to the trans thing, like everything else today, which is that in the metaverse, did you see Mark Zuckerberg cut everyone off at the navel?

01:05:38.000 So initially, he had them as people.

01:05:40.000 He took their legs away. 0.99

01:05:41.000 They kept sexually harassing each other, so he just cut their legs off. 1.00

01:05:44.000 Is that what happened? 0.99

01:05:46.000 The beta testing, they kept pinching each other and things. 0.99

01:05:48.000 They had to chop off their sex. 1.00

01:05:50.000 Just don't take away their legs. 0.99

01:05:53.000 I like how you brought up the word trans because of the transhumanism movement.

01:05:57.000 Well, that's what it's all about, ultimately.

01:05:58.000 And the word cis is from the mathematical term trans and cis. 0.72

01:06:05.000 The billionaires are all super into the transhumanist stuff, and because they're evil, they don't want to die. 0.72

01:06:13.000 And that's an incredibly dark impulse, and that's why they're kind of getting behind all the transgender stuff, because that's an incremental step. 1.00

01:06:23.000 A lot of these guys are pretty intelligent, but sometimes intelligent people are just the dumbest people on earth. 0.99

01:06:27.000 For all of human history, really rich, selfish, People have tried to figure out how to live forever, and we're living in such a stupid time that we're... This has been going on for all of history, and people now go online and they say, 0.99

01:06:42.000 You know, we're really close to living forever.

01:06:44.000 This time we've almost figured it out.

01:06:46.000 Spoiler alert, they're not going to figure it out.

01:06:48.000 That's not a real thing. 0.98

01:06:49.000 You're just going to kill a bunch of people in the process of trying to find out. 0.99

01:06:52.000 You're going to kill a bunch of people, you're going to cause all sorts of havoc, and it's that same lie from the Garden of Eden, which is the lie that ye shall be as gods. 0.97

01:07:00.000 Yuval Harari refers to this as homo deus, that we're now going to take control over the future of humanity. 0.93

01:07:06.000 And you think, okay, good luck, buddy.

01:07:08.000 I mean, unfortunately it's going to cause lots of problems in the short term, but It ain't gonna work, man.

01:07:12.000 I think we need to get the Daily Wire crew.

01:07:16.000 We might have to force them to watch Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood.

01:07:19.000 It's an anime.

01:07:21.000 But I'll just spoil it for you right now to explain.

01:07:22.000 I was just about to watch it.

01:07:24.000 Or Attack on Titan.

01:07:25.000 Attack on Titan's also really good.

01:07:27.000 And I'll tell you why.

01:07:28.000 Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is about basically this entity that wants to sacrifice humans to become immortal.

01:07:37.000 To ascend to a higher plane.

01:07:38.000 And so it's just government conspiracy to murder people and sacrifice them.

01:07:43.000 So that I think is interesting.

01:07:46.000 There's something like Matt Walsh said about like not watching anime and then there was like a backlash from people who were like, no, there's some good stories here.

01:07:51.000 And Attack on Titan is about Ancestral crimes, and how certain races of people should be held criminally responsible for things their ancestors did thousands of years ago, so that's... They're interesting stories, I think.

01:08:03.000 And what the Italians did to those poor Etruscans. 0.53

01:08:05.000 Those poor Etruscans. 1.00

01:08:07.000 Oh yeah, don't get me started.

01:08:08.000 Dude, the Etruscans, let's rock and roll. 1.00

01:08:10.000 That's where the Romans took credit for all that stuff.

01:08:13.000 The Etruscans actually are where it's at.

01:08:15.000 I found, I was reading this substack of Popehead the other day, great substack, and I saw this quote from Seneca, the philosopher Seneca, and it was about the difference between the Romans and the Etruscans.

01:08:26.000 And Seneca said, the difference between us Romans and those Etruscans is that the Romans look at clouds creating rain and they say, okay, natural forces came together and they put the clouds and then the rain came and then Here's some meaning that we could infer from that.

01:08:40.000 But those Etruscans who attribute everything to the divine, they believe that the gods wanted to express meaning and so they pushed the clouds together and had the rainfall.

01:08:50.000 And the thing is, the Etruscans were totally right. 1.00

01:08:53.000 Have you ever moved clouds with your magnetic field?

01:08:55.000 I have not.

01:08:56.000 I am not a god.

01:08:58.000 You can.

01:08:58.000 Well, it's flowing through you.

01:08:59.000 You utilize the magnetic fields.

01:09:01.000 I think you're wrong.

01:09:02.000 I think my field is a little off.

01:09:04.000 We talked with Alex Jones about this.

01:09:06.000 And, uh, you weren't in the room though, but I could hear, uh, I could hear the screaming from Ian downstairs.

01:09:11.000 Yeah.

01:09:11.000 Alex, so Ian likes to talk about the magnetic fields all the time.

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 But Alex Jones actually mentioned that they did experiments and found there is some kind of energy around all of us moving through us that it's uncontrollable.

01:09:24.000 Just because something hasn't been controlled doesn't mean it can't be.

01:09:26.000 I was basically saying it does connect all of us in some way, but you can't control it.

01:09:33.000 Just because something hasn't been controlled doesn't mean it can't be.

01:09:36.000 That's an important differential.

01:09:37.000 You know what I think?

01:09:38.000 Or I should say, you know what I hypothesize sometimes?

01:09:42.000 That if there really is this connection to the greater or whatever, that people probably don't all have the exact same connection.

01:09:50.000 And probably to varying degrees, some people... I wonder if the reason why you have woke NPC-type people, and some people who seem to be smarter, more perceptive, is simply because their, call it whatever you want, third eye or antenna, is more receptive to, you know, this kind of energy or whatever.

01:10:09.000 That is to say, if you are closed off from the greater, from the spiritual, from whatever, prayer is meaningless to you.

01:10:16.000 You don't experience it.

01:10:17.000 There is nothing beyond this reality.

01:10:19.000 You're a moist robot, and that's all that there is.

01:10:22.000 But if you're someone who has a greater connection to whatever you want to call it, the spiritual realm, or to God, or whatever, you're going to understand and know things, and you also can't give that feeling to a person who doesn't have that.

01:10:35.000 Well, of course, because it's not about you.

01:10:36.000 I mean, we used to just call this sanctity.

01:10:38.000 And so I loved when you brought up earlier the simulation theory, because simulation theory is just the way that modern people talk about basic religious concepts in a world that doesn't accept religion.

01:10:48.000 And so, you know, we talk about the magnets and the fields and whatever.

01:10:50.000 But yeah, we're talking about holiness and we're talking about spiritual reality.

01:10:54.000 And so, of course, it's the case that some people are More attuned.

01:11:00.000 More attuned to this, but the thing is you can grow in holiness, and you can also turn away from the grace of God.

01:11:05.000 And when you say, well, you can't give it to someone else, that's because it's about your relationship with God.

01:11:12.000 It's not about your relationship with some other dude.

01:11:14.000 I had a guy tell me a story that he became Christian because he was doing drugs, he was in the woods, and then he woke up in the morning strung out hungover, went to go take a leak, and then all of a sudden felt this booming voice from within his own chest say, what are you doing?

01:11:28.000 And it freaked him out, and then said, you are wasting your life, you have to stop this, you have to change.

01:11:33.000 And he didn't know what it was, so he went and sought answers, and then found, you know, holy men who explained to him what this was, what it meant.

01:11:41.000 He got clean, started a business, and lived a fulfilling life with his friends and became very responsible.

01:11:47.000 And he went from a strung-out drug addict, wasting away into a productive member of society after having this profound moment.

01:11:53.000 And he said to me, I don't care if you don't believe me, it happened to me, and I can never give you that feeling, but I assure you I experienced it.

01:11:59.000 Oh, of course.

01:11:59.000 I was like, no, I believe you.

01:12:00.000 It was a voice that sounded like Why, Saul of Tarsus, are you persecuting me?

01:12:04.000 These things happen.

01:12:05.000 People have those Road to Damascus moments.

01:12:08.000 And I'm sure the secular atheist types might just say, well, he was on drugs, he was having a psychotic break or whatever, and I'll be like, call it whatever you want, explain it however you want.

01:12:15.000 This person had an experience where they felt something that changed their life for the better.

01:12:19.000 I'm totally okay with that.

01:12:20.000 I think sometimes your frontal lobe clouds your spiritual part of the brain, maybe, because when it quiets, when you can go into flow state and dim the activity in your frontal lobe is when you really, time starts to lose meaning.

01:12:34.000 I think it can kind of happen.

01:12:34.000 And there's so much activity, like stimulating the frontal lobe, my name, who am I?

01:12:38.000 I exist in my frontal lobe.

01:12:40.000 Without that, you're kind of Part of it.

01:12:42.000 Do you wonder, Ian, though, if you're confusing the physical for the metaphysical?

01:12:47.000 Like, you're talking about this as if your brain is controlling everything, as if the physical world is controlling some aspect of your metaphysical understanding.

01:12:57.000 But what if those two things are just occurring simultaneously, or what if it's going in the opposite direction?

01:13:03.000 So now we say all the time, I had such an adrenaline rush.

01:13:06.000 We don't say, I got excited, right?

01:13:08.000 We say, oh, I got a dopamine hit instead of I felt happy.

01:13:12.000 But why is the physical the only meaningful thing, when in fact the physical world alone can't have any meaning at all?

01:13:18.000 Let me bridge this with science.

01:13:20.000 People who do DMT and break through the veil and then see some other kind of entity beyond this realm... Demons.

01:13:27.000 Usually demons.

01:13:28.000 Well, but maybe... You can call them demons, but why make that assumption?

01:13:31.000 Some of them may be demons.

01:13:32.000 What if some of them are more holy or something like that?

01:13:35.000 Well, I got... I actually had a great interview.

01:13:36.000 This is a little bit of a plug-up for my YouTube channel.

01:13:38.000 this two-hour interview with a guy who was a total psychonaut all into psychotropics and

01:13:43.000 hallucinogens, and he thinks they're demons, but it's worth it. If people want to go watch it,

01:13:48.000 it's a two-hour conversation, but yeah. I'd be more inclined to believe they were demons,

01:13:51.000 to be honest, but at the same time a bit more agnostic on whatever people experience this,

01:13:57.000 whatever they could be. But the only reason I bring it up is because if it is true that

01:14:02.000 multiple people, I mean hundreds or thousands of people, have experienced some kind of consistent

01:14:07.000 entity by taking this chemical, then when you, Ian, like as you were saying, you conflate the

01:14:12.000 metaphysical with the physical, when you experience these things, it could be something beyond the

01:14:16.000 veil reaching into you.

01:14:17.000 Yeah, I think I focus on the physical a lot because I feel like that's what I can control in the process, that like it's like a radio tuner.

01:14:24.000 I can tune it to the right frequency, but I'm not making the music happen.

01:14:27.000 So, I'm just so evidence-based, so I'm looking at like... But I think the magnetic field, it's like moving around the magnetic field, I believe you can, but it's like if you have a magnet in your hand and you're moving it underneath a piece of paper with all these iron fragments on top of the paper.

01:14:44.000 The iron's moving, but are you moving the iron or are you moving the magnet?

01:14:47.000 You're moving the magnet.

01:14:49.000 The iron filings are just moving along.

01:14:50.000 I think you're still making the same epistemological error though, which is you're saying that you're evidence-based and so you want to ground everything physically.

01:14:57.000 But the error here is the idea that reality is fundamentally physical, which it certainly is not.

01:15:02.000 The fact that we have intelligible speech, the fact that symbols have meaning, that we can interpret, and that we rely on it all, tells you that reality is fundamentally metaphysical, and there's evidence for that.

01:15:12.000 I think plasma is where it starts to change.

01:15:14.000 I got this though, Michael.

01:15:15.000 I got this, because Ian, you're a fan of Incubus.

01:15:18.000 Brandon Boyd, what's up, dawg?

01:15:18.000 I love Incubus.

01:15:19.000 And they have that song where, I don't know which song it is, A Certain Shade of Green or something like that, where in the middle of the song there's a recording of a guy who says, at the turn of the century, humans thought that what they could touch, smell, see, and hear was reality.

01:15:32.000 But since the initial publication of the charged electromagnetic spectrum, humans have learned that what they can touch, smell, see, and hear is less than one millionth of reality.

01:15:42.000 So, there you go.

01:15:44.000 That's a good line, actually, from Incubus, which is a kind of a demon.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, when you talk about it, it literally is a demon.

01:15:49.000 When you talk about physics, what's physical, they used to think it was solid, liquid, and gas.

01:15:53.000 And then all of a sudden, at some point, they realized, oh, plasma is a fourth state of physical matter.

01:15:57.000 There's more physical stuff than we realized.

01:16:00.000 And when you look at clouds of plasma moving around, I don't think they're intelligent, but there seems to be a sentience involved with the way that plasma, like, it doesn't move like a cloud in the air.

01:16:10.000 You're a physical thing, and you are sentient also, but the sentience isn't from your... Your consciousness, your rationality, is not from your physical body.

01:16:21.000 You're just a clump of cells in your physical body.

01:16:23.000 Your reason comes from your rationality.

01:16:26.000 I'll put it this way.

01:16:26.000 We're playing a video game.

01:16:30.000 It's not a simulation, it's a video game.

01:16:32.000 And we are entities that exist beyond the physical bodies, but we are occupying them to facilitate this simulated experience.

01:16:40.000 In plasma clouds, there's these things called plasmon in the center of plasma clouds, and when they're hit with photons, with light, it causes the plasma cloud to react.

01:16:50.000 So it's like information is being transferred from light into plasma, which is then cooling down into gas, and then into liquid, and then into solid.

01:16:58.000 But that doesn't have to be a conscious process.

01:17:01.000 Physical things react to stimuli, right?

01:17:03.000 It seems like a sentient process, not necessarily conscious.

01:17:06.000 But like if I threw, let's say I threw an explosive like those people last night at Pitt, if I threw an explosive at that wall, the wall would react and there'd be a hole in the wall or a dent in the wall, but the wall's not conscious.

01:17:17.000 I think you're right.

01:17:18.000 I think consciousness is like living organisms seem to have consciousness.

01:17:22.000 Not necessarily organisms, because then it would be carbon-based, but like living things have consciousness, but unliving things have sentience, it seems like.

01:17:30.000 Like when they say God is, I don't think God is conscious, I think it's sentient.

01:17:33.000 Well, so God is consciousness, right?

01:17:36.000 God is reason.

01:17:38.000 But if we're talking about sentience in the sense that one can feel sensations, you know, like an animal or even simpler organisms can react to certain stimuli, you know, they can feel pain, say.

01:17:51.000 Um, that's true.

01:17:52.000 And when we talk about consciousness, we're usually talking about rational consciousness, so we can discuss abstract things.

01:17:57.000 You know, we can talk about justice, but an ape or a plant can't talk about justice.

01:18:02.000 I think Ian desperately wants to believe in God.

01:18:05.000 He does.

01:18:06.000 Every time I'm here, I just think you're like, you're so close, but you keep falling into all this.

01:18:06.000 He does.

01:18:10.000 But we're talking about a different thing when we say God, because If there's a conscious God, he's looking for a personal relationship with us as individuals.

01:18:19.000 And if there's a God who's not conscious, but he's sentient somehow... What I'm saying is, the questions Ian asks sound more like a, please make me understand.

01:18:30.000 Totally.

01:18:31.000 I used to be agnostic.

01:18:32.000 And then I saw the cosmic microwave background radiation.

01:18:35.000 I was like, Okay, I'm evidence guy, that is evidence of God.

01:18:38.000 That looks like a neural net.

01:18:40.000 But everything is.

01:18:41.000 I mean, I remember when I was an atheist, I was sitting out having a cigar in my little front porch, and I had this tiny little house in New York, and I had this dead rosebush.

01:18:49.000 It wasn't like a beautiful thing that I was looking at, but I was sitting there, and I was looking at the leaves, and the complexity of the leaves on this dying rosebush, and I thought, you know, There's got to be some logic here.

01:19:05.000 There's got to be... Why is that so complex?

01:19:08.000 Why is that conveying meaning to me?

01:19:09.000 Even this totally quotidian thing.

01:19:11.000 And it wasn't the biggest push in my becoming a Christian and believing that God exists, but it was another piece of evidence, which is the evidence of meaning and intelligence is all around us.

01:19:24.000 It's here. 0.99

01:19:25.000 It's even in the stupid book, Genderqueer. 0.99

01:19:26.000 That Fibonacci sequence, that golden ratio, keeps showing up in reality. 0.95

01:19:29.000 Well yeah, because there's a structure to the universe, there's a logic and there's a math, and we're only some- like, you're like, wow, the golden ratio is everywhere, but in reality, it's just you noticing a tiny little piece of the logic of the universe that exists.

01:19:41.000 Sometimes I wonder if I'm looking through the lens of the spiraling galaxy.

01:19:44.000 There's three types of galaxies.

01:19:45.000 There's irregular galaxies, which is like a star cluster, then they become a spiral galaxy where it starts to spin.

01:19:49.000 Then they form up into a spheroid galaxy, and I feel like we're in a transition towards the spheroid. 0.99

01:19:54.000 But I wonder, because we're in a spiral, other things look like they're spiraling.

01:19:57.000 So we're only seeing the Fibonacci sequence from our perception because we're wearing spiral glasses.

01:20:02.000 Perhaps.

01:20:03.000 So we'll dive into the subject matter just because it came up, and I think it's a good opportunity with having you here, because Seamus will be back next week.

01:20:10.000 I'm so pumped.

01:20:11.000 So we're really excited for Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes will be hanging out.

01:20:14.000 Seamus is going to be the one to actually get you, Ian.

01:20:17.000 I can maybe push a little bit on the apologetics, but Seamus is a Shiite Wahhabi Catholic who has an answer for absolutely everything. 0.76

01:20:24.000 He's a smart guy.

01:20:25.000 He is.

01:20:25.000 He's a very intelligent guy.

01:20:27.000 I want to make this point for those that haven't heard it.

01:20:30.000 Um, because we briefly mentioned that simulation theory is the language used by, you know, how did you describe it?

01:20:35.000 It's just the way modern people talk about religion, because they don't know how to talk about religion, so it just seems more relatable for people.

01:20:42.000 When I was in Catholic school, and we were learning about science, And we were learning about energy.

01:20:48.000 And I was told that, you know, 3L's energy cannot be created or destroyed.

01:20:51.000 It can only be changed.

01:20:52.000 Energy is and always has been.

01:20:54.000 And I was like, it sounds very similar to how you describe God or the universe or things like that.

01:21:01.000 It just sounds like you're talking about something similar.

01:21:03.000 And they never really gave me a good philosophical understanding of any kind of similarities or what it could possibly mean.

01:21:09.000 But as a kid who was nine years old, I certainly took that to heart and considered maybe what they mean is Like maybe back when they wrote this stuff, when the Bible was being written, when people, when holy men were studying and coming up with ideas, they were conveying their understanding of the universe without our modern sensibilities.

01:21:26.000 So that brings us to simulation theory, where you get people who are seemingly atheists saying, I kid you not, a more advanced entity than us created this universe for a purpose with rules and expects something from us And then I'm like, I can't tell if you're a holy man or a simulist.

01:21:45.000 Are you a tech bro from Silicon Valley, or are you someone trying to explain the rudimentary religion to me?

01:21:50.000 The simulation language that people use now, if it persuades anyone, it's fine by me, but it's better even than the idea of energy.

01:22:01.000 You recognized a similarity between something in the creative world.

01:22:04.000 And the creator of that world.

01:22:05.000 But the idea that God just is synonymous with the world or that God just is the world and there's a little God left over which is called panentheism, that is different from the Christian idea and the monotheism and the way things really are.

01:22:20.000 The simulation theory is a better mapping of that because you have God who is entirely self-sufficient, who does not need us, who creates the world in this act of love out of nothing And makes us in his own image.

01:22:35.000 That is, in the modern way we talk about it, just some geeky programmer who, like, makes us appear.

01:22:40.000 Now get this.

01:22:41.000 I often hear people say something like, well, if God created the universe, who created God?

01:22:45.000 And it's just like, well, hold on.

01:22:46.000 Now you're ascribing our physical limitations to something that is beyond our physical limitations.

01:22:50.000 But here's a better way to explain it all.

01:22:53.000 Y'all have played The Sims?

01:22:54.000 I have, all four of them.

01:22:55.000 Are The Sims smart enough to comprehend this reality or existence?

01:22:59.000 The Sims aren't smart.

01:23:00.000 Exactly.

01:23:01.000 But they do their little thing, they live in their little universe.

01:23:04.000 They don't have a degree of consciousness, they are not smart.

01:23:07.000 We?

01:23:08.000 That's us.

01:23:09.000 We are the Sims. 1.00

01:23:10.000 We are the very stupid, bumbling around, and then we cannot comprehend what exists beyond our world. 0.99

01:23:17.000 Do you believe, when you think about destiny and free will, do you think that we're just destined to play a part in this chemical reaction? 1.00

01:23:25.000 I think the likely... I wouldn't say I'm as definitive as Michael, but I believe we're here for a reason.

01:23:33.000 I believe the universe was created for a purpose.

01:23:35.000 I believe that it's entirely possible the universe is actually only 5,000 years old.

01:23:39.000 And that is, I'm not saying I believe that wholeheartedly, I'm saying it's possible, if you are someone who believes in simulation theory.

01:23:45.000 The idea being, you've played Grand Theft Auto?

01:23:49.000 Oh yeah.

01:23:49.000 That was the only video game as a teenager that I played, because it was just so shocking.

01:23:53.000 I got a real kick out of it.

01:23:55.000 Let me put this out.

01:23:57.000 When you play Grand Theft Auto, you know there is no point in that video game where people built buildings.

01:24:03.000 Yeah.

01:24:03.000 Where a construction crew came in and constructed a skyscraper.

01:24:06.000 It just always has been, and that universe was created specifically in the year 2013 or whatever, and it just came into existence.

01:24:14.000 And so I find it fascinating that people who believe in simulation theory I can't understand the same argument from a religious perspective that the universe was created 5,000 years ago.

01:24:23.000 I don't like that argument.

01:24:24.000 I used to think that nothing existed unless I was perceiving it.

01:24:27.000 That everything was a wave of infinite possibility outside of my perception.

01:24:30.000 And my perception collapsed reality, and this is just a simulation I'm experiencing.

01:24:34.000 It was very egocentric.

01:24:35.000 It's called solipsism.

01:24:36.000 And other people were like, Ian, you freak.

01:24:38.000 I'm part of this too.

01:24:39.000 Like, what's wrong?

01:24:39.000 Where did you go?

01:24:40.000 You're not the Ian I used to know.

01:24:42.000 And so I think it's possible that it's both that and everyone's experiencing that.

01:24:47.000 But because of that, it is all real, but it's all a wave of infinite possibilities.

01:24:53.000 I mean, it is possible.

01:24:54.000 So aren't those mutually contradictory?

01:24:56.000 Exactly, yes.

01:24:57.000 So they can't simultaneously be true.

01:24:58.000 Well, they can't.

01:24:59.000 Contradictions can exist in nature.

01:25:01.000 No.

01:25:01.000 What?

01:25:02.000 Well, like quantum computing allows something to be a 1 and a 0 at the same moment.

01:25:06.000 Yes.

01:25:07.000 That's true.

01:25:08.000 You're saying that there are, you're saying that there are possibilities that can collapse down into actualities.

01:25:13.000 That's the quantum, the physical, quantum physical perception of like the, I don't know, double, I don't want to misquote the double slit experiment, but things where like electrons work as, function as a cloud until you put a perception on them, then they collapse into their, where they're at.

01:25:24.000 But you don't know where they're going to be at until you look.

01:25:26.000 Yeah.

01:25:27.000 But now, but what you're suggesting is now, I'm always a little hesitant when people bring up quantum things because I just find You know, physics is very hard, and because all of the quantum language is so fantastical, people tend to turn them to their own ideological or theological purposes.

01:25:46.000 So I'm a little cautious with it, but are you suggesting that scientists have discovered a way to violate Aristotle's law of non-contradiction?

01:25:54.000 I'm not familiar with Aristotle's Law.

01:25:55.000 But not a female. 0.95

01:25:55.000 that mutually contradictory things can't simultaneously exist. Well, it's kind of like 0.95

01:25:59.000 women's bathrooms and transgenderism can't simultaneously exist. 1.00

01:26:02.000 Oh, well, I disagree because I think someone could be a man and a trans woman at the same time.

01:26:06.000 But not a female. 0.95

01:26:08.000 Correct.

01:26:08.000 They could be a female or a trans man, but they're still both.

01:26:11.000 In this regard, what we're currently, what we, assuming you believe all of the companies that

01:26:16.000 have claimed this, quantum computing is, right, so computers operate with yes and no gates,

01:26:22.000 ones and zeros. Quantum computing allows the calculation to exist as a one and a

01:26:27.000 zero in the same space at the same time. So the calculations happen rapidly.

01:26:31.000 Oh, sure, sure.

01:26:32.000 So I under...

01:26:33.000 I understand the... Not rapidly, but instantaneous.

01:26:36.000 Right, right.

01:26:37.000 No, I understand that from the perspective of rapidity, but I don't really understand, and we're speaking in language that is figurative, even when we talk about ones and zeros, I don't really understand what it means for these contradictory things to be simultaneous.

01:26:49.000 Another simultaneous contradiction is like this.

01:26:51.000 I'll give you an analogy.

01:26:52.000 I'll show you.

01:26:52.000 Well, let me explain.

01:26:54.000 Let's say you want to brute force a password, right?

01:26:59.000 Yeah.

01:26:59.000 Imagine it like you have an ant farm.

01:27:03.000 When you're looking through the glass, you can see all these little paths and trails that go all the way down in little shapes, like a maze.

01:27:09.000 If you were to try and send in one drop of water at a time to navigate that maze, it gets blocked.

01:27:14.000 You try another drop, it gets blocked.

01:27:16.000 That's brute forcing to get to the bottom.

01:27:18.000 Quantum computing would be pouring water straight in the top so it instantly gets you to the bottom and gives you that access.

01:27:24.000 Here's an example of a contradiction, a simple contradiction.

01:27:27.000 When you look at that number, what number do you see?

01:27:29.000 Well, I see nine.

01:27:31.000 I see a six.

01:27:32.000 But you see a six.

01:27:33.000 And we're both right.

01:27:34.000 Well, no, we don't know which way is the top of the paper.

01:27:38.000 I don't think there is a top of the paper.

01:27:39.000 There is a top of the paper.

01:27:40.000 But who's going to decide?

01:27:41.000 Well, I can tell you.

01:27:42.000 I've got good evidence for it.

01:27:45.000 I'm pleased to say that I'm right about what the number is, because I can see that the paper was pulled from your notebook this way.

01:27:52.000 Oh, you're wrong.

01:27:54.000 I'm wrong?

01:27:55.000 Yes.

01:27:55.000 Look where the margin on the paper is.

01:27:58.000 I got you!

01:28:00.000 If I were more observant and more scientific, I would have noticed where the margin was on the paper.

01:28:05.000 What did you say?

01:28:05.000 You said nine?

01:28:06.000 You flip it.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, so there it is.

01:28:07.000 The margin's at the top.

01:28:09.000 It's the six.

01:28:09.000 Listen, I'm a modern person.

01:28:12.000 You were right.

01:28:12.000 It is a nine from your perspective.

01:28:15.000 But no, unfortunately Tim was right and I was wrong and you were right.

01:28:19.000 If we had a piece of paper.

01:28:20.000 But the reason is the paper has a direction, objectively.

01:28:28.000 I can know, using my perception and using my reason, where the paper came from, what

01:28:33.000 the orientation of the paper is, and once I know that, I can know if this is a six or

01:28:36.000 a nine.

01:28:37.000 And Ian, I will admit, I'll be the bigger man.

01:28:40.000 So assume there was no paper.

01:28:42.000 It was just outside in the wilderness.

01:28:43.000 You came upon that symbol.

01:28:45.000 There's no relativism.

01:28:47.000 It's just your perception is what it is.

01:28:50.000 No, no, no.

01:28:50.000 Hold on.

01:28:51.000 Let me answer this for you, Ian.

01:28:53.000 Let me see the paper.

01:28:54.000 So the way we deduced that this was in fact a six and not a nine is first Michael

01:29:00.000 tried to point out the tear and he assumed it came from this side of the of the paper but

01:29:04.000 you were holding it upside down so you assumed it came this way in fact Ian pulled it out from

01:29:09.000 the other side the margin is at the top yep if the margin was not there and we couldn't determine

01:29:15.000 what it was that doesn't mean it is a It is a 9.

01:29:19.000 It means we don't have enough evidence to form the correct conclusion.

01:29:21.000 But it is a 6 and it is a 9.

01:29:23.000 No, Tim is right.

01:29:24.000 It's both at once.

01:29:25.000 That's the correct contradiction of reality that can exist.

01:29:27.000 No, no, no.

01:29:28.000 Ian, I disagree and I'll explain.

01:29:30.000 If someone were to write a password onto a piece of paper and they wrote 666 And it was a square post-it note that with no sticky, it was like a square piece of paper.

01:29:41.000 And they dropped it somewhere.

01:29:42.000 It was intended, the intention and the code itself is 666.

01:29:46.000 Meaning, if you want to unlock the door, it's 666.

01:29:50.000 Someone comes upon that paper and they say, I don't know the orientation of the paper.

01:29:55.000 It may be 9, it may be 6.

01:29:56.000 The answer is, I don't know.

01:29:58.000 Not that it's 9 because I choose it to be.

01:29:59.000 Because then, if you go to the keypad terminal and type 999, door won't open.

01:30:02.000 But you're applying relativism.

01:30:03.000 If there's nothing to relate it to, you just have to take it at face value.

01:30:08.000 But in objective reality, There are things to relate it to and to ground it in.

01:30:14.000 So, to use Tim's example, there's the adhesive line on the sticky, so that could give you some evidence of which way it is now.

01:30:20.000 Let's say the adhesive rubbed off.

01:30:22.000 Well, you're going to have to look and see, is there a little hint of that adhesive left?

01:30:24.000 Or maybe it got ripped off.

01:30:26.000 Unless the intention of the individual was to make an obscure symbol to confuse people?

01:30:31.000 It is either a 6 or a 9.

01:30:33.000 Our inability to understand the intent of the person who crafted that symbol does not negate what the symbol is.

01:30:38.000 Sometimes in nature there is no intent, it just is.

01:30:40.000 And the experience of being human is our attempt to rationalize.

01:30:44.000 But what we're saying is there's always intent.

01:30:46.000 There is.

01:30:47.000 And always purpose and telos.

01:30:50.000 And let's take it one step further, Ian.

01:30:52.000 If this symbol appeared on a tree because lightning struck it, And then it was sideways.

01:30:57.000 And someone came up and said, is it a 6, a 9, an E?

01:31:00.000 Well, I think it's a 6.

01:31:01.000 Well, I think it's a 9.

01:31:02.000 The reality is it's a mark from a lightning strike.

01:31:04.000 It's all three of those.

01:31:05.000 It's not.

01:31:06.000 It surely is, yes.

01:31:07.000 In order for it to be the symbol you describe it as, it must relate to the language, the abstract ideological structure the person ascribed it to.

01:31:16.000 If a fish flops on the ground and draws this symbol, I'm not going to say that fish just wrote a number for me.

01:31:21.000 I'm going to say the fish flopped on the ground kind of looks like a 6.

01:31:24.000 Kinda looks like a nine.

01:31:26.000 You're establishing a lot of relative aspects to the position.

01:31:30.000 Like, if someone walks into nature and that is just on the ground, it depends on what angle, if you come at it from one side it looks like a nine, if you come at it from the other it looks like a six.

01:31:38.000 Well, what you're really getting at here is a distinction between the way, actually, that the left and the right view the world, which is as one of a world of interpretation or a world of activism and the imposition of will.

01:31:51.000 So the idea of Law actually, the idea of whether that's a six or a nine.

01:31:58.000 The conservatives would look at that and say, look, there is objective reality, there is an intelligibility to the universe, I have a faculty of reason, and so I can interpret and I can learn things from the world.

01:32:07.000 Whereas the way that the modern left, the very relativistic, self-centered left, and very willful, wrathful left, would look at that and say, I don't give a damn what it's supposed to mean.

01:32:17.000 I'm going to deny my faculties of reason.

01:32:20.000 I'm going to pretend that men are actually women. 1.00

01:32:22.000 I'm going to say that babies aren't really babies.

01:32:24.000 And it's going to be whatever the hell I want.

01:32:25.000 Let me pull this into this analogy.

01:32:27.000 The right takes the approach, I think, that you and I described, Michael, where You'll see the symbol, and they'll say, how did the symbol come to be, and what meaning does it intend to convey?

01:32:36.000 The symbol exists.

01:32:38.000 I would like to understand why it exists.

01:32:40.000 The left's perspective is, there's a symbol.

01:32:42.000 I'm going to tell you what I want it to be.

01:32:45.000 It's a humpty dumpty, right?

01:32:46.000 Words can mean whatever I want them to.

01:32:47.000 Whatever empowers me.

01:32:48.000 Which is what political correctness is, too.

01:32:50.000 The right using rationality, I think that is a good method towards ascribing meaning.

01:32:55.000 No, no, no.

01:32:56.000 To interpreting meaning.

01:32:57.000 Not ascribing meaning.

01:32:58.000 And so you, incredibly rational, brilliant, probably genius level IQ, was certain that was a 9 after a moment of examining the situation, using your rationality.

01:33:08.000 That was one of the few times that I've been wrong.

01:33:12.000 That's the point!

01:33:13.000 Even the most brilliant rationalists can be wrong.

01:33:17.000 Yes, and being wrong does not mean it is a 9.

01:33:19.000 It means you were wrong.

01:33:21.000 The thing is though, you weren't wrong.

01:33:23.000 You were right, Ian.

01:33:23.000 Stop trying to make me feel better.

01:33:25.000 I was wrong, man.

01:33:26.000 You were right, and you were right, and I was right.

01:33:28.000 It was a 6, a 9, and a scratch mark on paper.

01:33:31.000 It actually isn't, Ian.

01:33:32.000 You took a piece of paper with the margin on the top, and you wrote a 6.

01:33:35.000 Well, I drew that shape.

01:33:37.000 I wanted to see what number he thought it was.

01:33:38.000 I thought it was a 6.

01:33:39.000 So, the point is...

01:33:42.000 I think in the culture, this is actually a great conversation for people who are listening, I think it's important to understand the left's predominant view versus what we would describe as the right.

01:33:51.000 The right includes post-liberals because the political factions are no longer about policy, it's now about understanding reality.

01:33:58.000 And I grew up traditionally liberal, I think you did too, right Michael?

01:34:02.000 Oh yeah, I'm from New York, I mean everybody was liberal.

01:34:04.000 Now you're a theistic Christian conservative?

01:34:07.000 Yeah, I don't know what I am, some kind of ism, you know.

01:34:10.000 But I mean, I grew up, I was always kind of a young Republican type, you know, I had a little liberal phase.

01:34:15.000 But to your point, Tim, even being a young Republican conservative type pretty much meant we were all liberals for much of the last 30 years.

01:34:25.000 So I like this analogy, this way to break down the The way people see the world.

01:34:34.000 And when I see this symbol, I look for the evidence.

01:34:36.000 The way you drew this Ian on this paper with the paper's margin on top is how you would typically make a six.

01:34:41.000 Therefore, you drew a six.

01:34:43.000 You can call it whatever you want.

01:34:44.000 I understand for this purpose, you were not intending to make it either symbol.

01:34:49.000 The left does two things.

01:34:51.000 The first, they jump to conclusions and then insist they know because of ego.

01:34:56.000 When they see the piece of paper, they will say it's whatever they want it to be, a nine or a six, whatever suits their needs at the time.

01:35:03.000 They are unwilling, typically, to listen to any evidence.

01:35:07.000 The typical leftist perspective on this would be, hey, Look at that margin on top.

01:35:11.000 That means it's a 6.

01:35:12.000 Well, if that's offending their ego because they determined it to be a 9, they'll say, you are wrong, and they'll make a similar argument to you, which is called sophistry.

01:35:20.000 An attempt to make a fallacious argument to prove them right for the sake of their dominance over you because they believe there is no truth but power.

01:35:25.000 I don't think it is sophistry.

01:35:26.000 I'm pointing out that it's both a 6 and a 9.

01:35:29.000 That's not sophistry.

01:35:29.000 That's just an observation.

01:35:31.000 Right, right.

01:35:31.000 And what I'm explaining to you is, on a piece of paper, with this orientation, you have drawn a six.

01:35:37.000 I mean, that's not what Michael told me ten minutes ago.

01:35:40.000 Because I was wrong.

01:35:41.000 I don't think you were.

01:35:43.000 But now you're wrong.

01:35:44.000 I drew an upside-down nine, I'm just gonna be clear.

01:35:46.000 This is my point.

01:35:48.000 Yeah, you actually didn't.

01:35:49.000 You actually drew a six.

01:35:50.000 I mean, that's an upside down nine, man.

01:35:51.000 Flip it upside down.

01:35:52.000 It's actually not.

01:35:53.000 It's an ugly looking nine, but it sure is.

01:35:55.000 You drew this from... That's how I draw, yeah.

01:35:58.000 That's not how you make nines.

01:35:58.000 I mean... So, my point is simply this.

01:36:00.000 Honestly, I was drawing a six.

01:36:02.000 Yes, you were.

01:36:03.000 Thank you for the honesty.

01:36:04.000 And you're saying there is truth here.

01:36:06.000 I thought you might think it was a nine.

01:36:07.000 In fact, I wished it was a square white piece of paper with no margin for the argument.

01:36:11.000 You succeeded at deceiving me, Ian.

01:36:13.000 But this gets to exactly what was going on last night at Pittsburgh, by the way.

01:36:16.000 We were supposed to have a debate.

01:36:18.000 And conservatives are more inclined to have debates, and debates are about pursuing logic to come to the truth.

01:36:23.000 And the libs were outside throwing explosives.

01:36:26.000 And actually, this gets back down to the Bible.

01:36:28.000 You know, there's an important moment in the Bible when Christ goes in and he's hanging out with these two ladies, Mary and Martha.

01:36:35.000 And one of the sisters is sitting, contemplating what Christ is saying.

01:36:40.000 And the other sister is serving the lunch and is busy and doing all these things. 1.00

01:36:44.000 And what Christ says is, The contemplative life is the better portion.

01:36:49.000 Not to say that we shouldn't feed ourselves and, you know, we're living in time and space, we have to do certain things to maintain our bodies, but that contemplation, interpretation, is actually better than the act of life.

01:37:01.000 And we obviously need both of these things, but we need, if we're going to use our will, it has to be in accord with intellect, otherwise we're just going to start throwing explosives at the wall.

01:37:10.000 You can look at the way I wrote those letters to determine what numbers they are.

01:37:18.000 96B.

01:37:19.000 So what I did was I flipped it upside down and then I wrote a nine and a six.

01:37:23.000 Nines and six are not drawn the same way.

01:37:27.000 When a person is taught to write, they don't draw a nine by starting from the bottom and then looping up around the top.

01:37:32.000 You're making a lot of points based on like modern culture and all that.

01:37:36.000 I know what you're saying.

01:37:37.000 Let me just say this.

01:37:38.000 I think the danger in all of this is what I'm saying is if you become steadfast on what you think it is and there is no other.

01:37:44.000 I'm not saying be postmodernist.

01:37:47.000 But when you claim something is what you think it is, it doesn't mean that it necessarily is to other people that way.

01:37:53.000 And that's okay.

01:37:54.000 Aren't you being that steadfast when you say it is both a six and a nine?

01:37:58.000 You're insisting upon that.

01:37:59.000 I'm trying to be open-minded about it can be more than what I think it is.

01:38:02.000 You're being tyrannically open-minded.

01:38:03.000 You're not open-minded to my open-mindedness.

01:38:06.000 And that's why I hate the phrase open-minded.

01:38:07.000 It's meaningless.

01:38:08.000 Yeah, you have to stop somewhere.

01:38:10.000 The point is, Ian, the right tends to have a view of, there is meaning, let me figure out what it is.

01:38:17.000 And if it turns out the symbol never had the ascribed meaning, then it's not a six or a nine, it was a shape.

01:38:22.000 I just want to make sure people don't Live their life based on what they thought that symbol was and just go all the way without considering that they might be wrong.

01:38:29.000 Right, and that's what the left does.

01:38:31.000 And when you offend their ego, they insist they were right the whole time.

01:38:34.000 Oh, it's a big problem.

01:38:34.000 It's a big problem among all sides and groups of people that I can see.

01:38:38.000 But the problem is if you have too open of a mind, then you become a postmodernist where it could be anything.

01:38:42.000 What if it was just a sideways shape?

01:38:43.000 It wasn't even a number to be.

01:38:45.000 Right.

01:38:45.000 So you have to find reality.

01:38:48.000 All right, we gotta go to Super Chats, everybody.

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01:39:20.000 Let's read your superchats!

01:39:22.000 Alright!

01:39:22.000 I'm not your buddy guy says, how can we not worry about the people who think humans are a blight on the earth are also the ones designing AI?

01:39:31.000 It already thinks the right is evil.

01:39:33.000 Yeah, it's shocking to me that they're not open sourcing that thing right now.

01:39:37.000 Well, we mentioned this before the show, Hank Green did a poll and he said, which universe is a better one with humans without and 42% said without humans.

01:39:46.000 I don't know how many of them.

01:39:47.000 You first, guys.

01:39:48.000 30% of them were bots, I hope.

01:39:52.000 They were the AI bots.

01:39:53.000 The robots being like, we don't like them.

01:39:54.000 Did you see ChaosGBT?

01:39:56.000 No, what is that?

01:39:57.000 So ChaosGBT is the AI designed to destroy humanity.

01:40:01.000 And what it first tried to do was look up ways to get nuclear weapons.

01:40:05.000 That didn't get them very far.

01:40:06.000 That didn't get the bot very far.

01:40:07.000 And so then the bot decided that the better way to destroy humanity was to manipulate human beings, and specifically to manipulate human emotions, and specifically to do it by being a reply guy in social media platforms.

01:40:19.000 No way!

01:40:20.000 Yeah.

01:40:21.000 But it couldn't go too far, it couldn't be too on the nose, because then the humans would get wise to it and shut down the chaos GBT.

01:40:27.000 And it occurred to me, I know we've been talking about demons a lot on the show tonight, That's just what the demons do, right?

01:40:32.000 They just kind of manipulate you and tempt you, but they try not to go too far.

01:40:36.000 And it's just everything, what people thought 2,000 years ago, even more than 2,000 years ago, it was just all right.

01:40:43.000 It was all right, and we think we're such geniuses because we talk about it now with computers, but nothing has changed.

01:40:48.000 It's all exactly the same.

01:40:50.000 I think we're psychic, but it's been dampened.

01:40:52.000 They used to probably be more psychic and they could sense God's words.

01:40:55.000 Maybe.

01:40:56.000 I think some people have stronger connections than others.

01:40:59.000 I think that, call it whatever you want, third eye, spiritual connections, whatever.

01:41:03.000 Some people have strong connections and their whole life they just know there's God.

01:41:07.000 They can feel the presence and they're confused as to why you don't.

01:41:09.000 And then there's some people who are completely closed off and think they're a moist robot and you're insane for thinking otherwise.

01:41:15.000 I used to be like that and then I learned God.

01:41:18.000 I think it was when I humiliated myself in public on the internet.

01:41:21.000 I started making internet videos and just telling all my, I kept, people, like thoughts will come to your brain.

01:41:26.000 You guys ever had that where you're just sitting there and you're like, Oh, these crazy thoughts.

01:41:28.000 I just told the world what my thoughts were and they stopped popping into my head.

01:41:32.000 And I was like, Oh, then I started hearing God.

01:41:34.000 I was like, okay, this is real.

01:41:36.000 Like that is a real thing.

01:41:37.000 Let's read this one.

01:41:38.000 We got a good one.

01:41:38.000 Koldilocks Production says, Nebraska became the 27th state to pass constitutional carry today.

01:41:43.000 It passed Congress and now just has to be signed by the governor, who will sign it immediately.

01:41:47.000 Let's go, Brandon!

01:41:48.000 27 states!

01:41:50.000 Think about how fast it's been accelerating.

01:41:52.000 Yes!

01:41:53.000 That's really big.

01:41:55.000 Man, and if you look at gun rights in the 80s, Gun rights used to not be a thing.

01:42:00.000 Yeah.

01:42:00.000 Like, most states would not give you permits for carry.

01:42:02.000 You know, there's two issues that the right has won on.

01:42:05.000 There's only two.

01:42:05.000 We've lost everything, but the two things we've won on, guns and pro-life.

01:42:09.000 Because it's the only issues where we speak with moral clarity.

01:42:11.000 We say, no, this is a right.

01:42:13.000 You have a right to life.

01:42:13.000 You have a right to protect yourself.

01:42:15.000 I don't know if pro-life is winning.

01:42:17.000 We undid Roe v. Wade.

01:42:18.000 That was pretty big.

01:42:19.000 Fair point.

01:42:19.000 But then you got Colorado that went the other direction.

01:42:21.000 So it's kind of like rubber banding.

01:42:23.000 Yeah, no, I mean, it's not going to be a straight shot toward ending abortion, but just overturning Roe v. Wade will save hundreds of thousands of babies a year.

01:42:31.000 It's pretty good.

01:42:33.000 Tyler Pittman says, Jared from Guns and Gadgets is currently streaming the Judiciary hearing.

01:42:37.000 He expressed that he's interested in being on Timcast, but doesn't know how to contact you guys.

01:42:41.000 I'm just a broke bro trying to spread the word.

01:42:45.000 And I don't know how he can tweet at... tweet at us?

01:42:49.000 I don't know.

01:42:50.000 Yeah, he can send in his own super chat.

01:42:51.000 Why does he got to rely on a broke bro to send in the super chat?

01:42:54.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:42:57.000 Alright, where we at?

01:42:58.000 Spark says, GOP will lose in 2024.

01:43:01.000 I live in Brooklyn, New York.

01:43:02.000 Democrat campaign staff come to my house every day at 6pm asking to vote Democrat in 2024.

01:43:08.000 The GOP is asleep at the wheel again.

01:43:10.000 I hope the Democrats are focusing all of their attention on convincing New Yorkers to vote Democrat in presidential elections.

01:43:16.000 Put it all there, California, New York, and we'll go to the swing states.

01:43:20.000 Mark D says, I was retweeted by Jeremy Boring tonight.

01:43:23.000 Mention it on Timcast and make this Marine Corps Veteran Day even better.

01:43:26.000 Congratulations!

01:43:27.000 And thanks for your service.

01:43:28.000 That's great.

01:43:29.000 And I'm really excited.

01:43:30.000 We ordered, I think, 2,000 of the Daily Wire's chocolate bars.

01:43:33.000 But it's an important business purchase.

01:43:36.000 We have snacks.

01:43:36.000 We have granola bars.

01:43:37.000 We have drinks.

01:43:38.000 You have great snacks.

01:43:40.000 We have the Keto granola bars.

01:43:41.000 And now we're going to have Jeremy's She Her Nutless bars. 0.99

01:43:45.000 And I just ordered, I think, 600 cans of Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer.

01:43:49.000 We're gonna get so fat.

01:43:51.000 Don't look at me!

01:43:52.000 I mean, you can eat all the chocolate you want.

01:43:55.000 That's one of the challenges of working at TimCast, is control your gluttony.

01:43:59.000 Because we make sure, you know, we're communists here, so everybody has whatever they want, and there's food and pizza.

01:44:04.000 I ordered Starbucks the past three days in a row for everybody.

01:44:07.000 I know, I'm not a big... Once we get Casper Coffee up and running, we are gonna have... Then there's no more Starbucks.

01:44:13.000 I will say, this is how I knew that your show was really doing great.

01:44:16.000 is every time I would come in, the bar would get infinitely- not infinitely, but exponentially more ridiculous.

01:44:23.000 That's the- that's like the craziest bar I've ever seen. 0.52

01:44:25.000 The drinks over there?

01:44:26.000 Yeah.

01:44:26.000 I mean, the Pappy's gone.

01:44:27.000 The Pappy's- Oh, but there's a Louis XIII up there.

01:44:29.000 You got the Louis XIII, you got the Laphroaig 25, it's unbelievable. 1.00

01:44:33.000 I had colloidal gold over there for a while, you ever drink that?

01:44:35.000 Uh, we got Manuka honey too, I have.

01:44:37.000 There's- there's Manuka honey.

01:44:39.000 Wow.

01:44:39.000 Yeah, that's expensive Australian import.

01:44:42.000 We cracked open the Louis XIII when Elon took control of Twitter.

01:44:45.000 That's a good occasion.

01:44:46.000 We were like, we need a reason to like, this is a very expensive bottle of cognac, you know.

01:44:50.000 But none of us really drink.

01:44:51.000 It's mostly just because we have prominent, worldly people who come on this show, and You know, we treat them like kings.

01:44:59.000 I don't drink any booze.

01:45:00.000 That's true, but you do have prominent worldly lushes who come on this show. 1.00

01:45:05.000 I mean, look, you know, I can't wait.

01:45:07.000 When we have prominent individuals of merit, we want to make sure we're treating them with the utmost respect.

01:45:12.000 And so we had corn whiskey up there for a while.

01:45:15.000 It cost five bucks because some people prefer the down-to-earth, you know, local Joe brand.

01:45:20.000 But I'm really excited for the beer that we get.

01:45:22.000 We normally like to buy local.

01:45:24.000 And Ultra Right Conservative Dad's Ultra Right American Beer.

01:45:28.000 We'll have that for our guests and for our events and stuff like that.

01:45:31.000 Did Seth Weathers start Ultra... What is it?

01:45:33.000 Ultra Right Conservative Dad?

01:45:34.000 Is that what it's called?

01:45:35.000 I believe it was him.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, he sent a super chat.

01:45:37.000 We'll read it in a minute.

01:45:37.000 Thank you, Seth.

01:45:38.000 In a minute.

01:45:39.000 Let's read this.

01:45:39.000 What do we got?

01:45:40.000 Douglas Kaplan says, Michael Knowles, best from the wire.

01:45:44.000 LOL, sad I missed your show.

01:45:45.000 Question for Michael, have you heard of Frank Turek?

01:45:48.000 I think you and him can have an interesting conversation.

01:45:50.000 He is from a channel called Cross-Examine and may maybe bring hope and understanding to faith in Jesus.

01:45:57.000 Oh, I like, the name sounds vaguely familiar, but I'm not really familiar with his work, so I gotta, I gotta check him out.

01:46:03.000 Oh snap, it's Dave says, hey Tim, I know long way from this, but look into Baldwinsville, New York, a left of center town, very pro-small business.

01:46:11.000 We have an old pizza hut for sale, perfect for coffee shop outside my BJJ gym.

01:46:17.000 In Frederick, there's a pizza hut for sale, and I really want to go into business with Jack Posobiec and launch Papa Jack's Pizza Shack.

01:46:27.000 And bring back that old school pizza hut. 0.99

01:46:29.000 Restore.

01:46:29.000 Oh, stained glass kind of lamps.

01:46:32.000 That's right.

01:46:32.000 Salad bar.

01:46:33.000 I was explaining this to my wife, sweet little Alisa, the other day, because she grew up, she was a little fancy, you know?

01:46:39.000 She didn't go to the pizza huts.

01:46:40.000 And I said, you know, you don't know what you were missing.

01:46:43.000 This was very high class dining.

01:46:47.000 Think about what they've taken from us.

01:46:48.000 That crispy crust.

01:46:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:49.000 Those red cups with the crystalline structure.

01:46:52.000 Oh, that was great.

01:46:52.000 That salad bar just coated in disease.

01:46:55.000 Yeah.

01:46:56.000 Gabby Hayes says, Tim, I know you can't show the memes right now from Chris Tyson's old posts, but you should on tonight's Uncensored show for a few minutes.

01:47:03.000 I want to see Michael's reaction.

01:47:04.000 Ian, too.

01:47:05.000 Love you all.

01:47:05.000 Uh, okay.

01:47:06.000 Are you familiar with Chris Tyson?

01:47:08.000 So he's the Mr. Beast guy who decided he was a woman. 0.64

01:47:11.000 He's got a bunch of old spicy memes that I can't say on YouTube.

01:47:16.000 I know he posted about- And I'll tell you this, no one here even wanted to read what he posted on the Uncensored show because nobody wants those words coming out of their mouths.

01:47:25.000 It's kind of like when Obama read his autobiography, he's like, sometimes we ate dog and we did a lot of cocaine.

01:47:29.000 But I imagine Chris Dyson's is way worse.

01:47:31.000 I do know- They're funny memes.

01:47:34.000 They were just boilerplate 4chan edgy stuff.

01:47:37.000 Right, right.

01:47:38.000 Wasn't he into weird porn stuff though?

01:47:39.000 4chan 2016.

01:47:40.000 I mean he's obviously into weird porn stuff, but wasn't there like weird like...

01:47:43.000 That might have just been shock edgy edgelord stuff.

01:47:45.000 Right, you just don't know.

01:47:46.000 My take on that was not that he's there for a pedo or something like that.

01:47:51.000 Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but I didn't conclude that he was. 0.98

01:47:53.000 My take on that though was this guy is fluent in the language of pornography.

01:47:58.000 If he's using really obscure terms that you've got to Google or probably you shouldn't Google, then he probably knows.

01:48:03.000 4chan.

01:48:04.000 You think it's 4chan?

01:48:05.000 Well, we'll show you the memes in the uncensored show and then, you know.

01:48:08.000 Sometimes it's more of a meme than anything.

01:48:11.000 All right, here we go.

01:48:13.000 Because of the Moon says, hello Mr. Knowles, would America and the world be objectively better if its government was a Christian Catholic theocracy? 1.00

01:48:21.000 Well, every government is a kind of a theocracy in the sense that all human conflict is ultimately theological, and the law just expresses and enforces an understanding of justice, so there is no such thing as a total separation of Religious thinking and state.

01:48:41.000 That has never existed anywhere.

01:48:43.000 So what you're asking me is, should we live under a state animated by Christianity, which has animated our whole civilization for as long as we've been a thriving one, or should we have a state animated by, I don't know, leftism, nihilism, sadism, and I think if I got those options, Christianity sounds pretty good. 0.96

01:49:00.000 I'd like to answer this, um, the statement objectively better is not objective.

01:49:06.000 What does better mean?

01:49:07.000 Different people like different things.

01:49:08.000 If you're talking about from our perspective on what good things are, I'll put it this way, clearly the left doesn't, it would not be better for leftists who like destroy things and don't want you to have civil rights.

01:49:19.000 Well, they wouldn't think it was better for them, but it certainly would be better, right?

01:49:22.000 If they lived in a country where they were encouraged to just be normal and have a good life instead of just chopping themselves up and burning things.

01:49:30.000 Let's define better, then.

01:49:31.000 Better being you will have a higher standard of living, you will be safer, and you will be happier.

01:49:36.000 And be happier.

01:49:37.000 I believe the answer is...

01:49:40.000 Not definitively yes, but slightly leaning in that direction.

01:49:44.000 And because government is no guarantee on the actual values being instilled.

01:49:49.000 So what we should say is, would the world be better if all people were Christian or Catholic? 0.99

01:49:56.000 And the answer is objectively yes.

01:49:58.000 And I'm not saying that Christianity is 100% correct, although I think you probably would agree it is. 1.00

01:50:02.000 I would say it is.

01:50:03.000 My point is simply, if everyone shares a cohesive culture and agrees upon what the rules are, you would not need government, you would not need police.

01:50:09.000 People would have a shared faith and moral system where they would work with each other.

01:50:14.000 But people would still be fallen.

01:50:16.000 People would still sin, right?

01:50:17.000 Like, you wouldn't need nearly the police presence or government imposition.

01:50:21.000 You'd still need people to kind of, you know, but it would be, you're right, it would be much more cohesive and it would just be in accordance with Truth, you know?

01:50:28.000 I mean, I'm not saying that I've got perfect knowledge of every aspect of society and human life, but I can know it is better to... I actually brought this example up on this show before.

01:50:39.000 I can at least know it's better to bake a pie for a widow than to kick a baby, right? 1.00

01:50:42.000 And so, if we had a society that enshrined that in the law, yeah, it'd be a better society.

01:50:47.000 I think centering society around God would be a good move, but I have seen people use that for their power and benefit throughout history.

01:50:54.000 And that's the government component, not the God component.

01:50:56.000 But also, the law is a teacher.

01:50:58.000 So, you know, it's true that culture affects the law, but the law will also inform the culture.

01:51:04.000 And even, you know, once laws are passed, they can be in the news and we can all be arguing over, oh, Roe v. Wade got overturned or whatever.

01:51:12.000 But then people don't think consciously about the law.

01:51:15.000 The law is just the air.

01:51:17.000 The law is just the water that the fish are swimming through.

01:51:19.000 And that does influence our behavior because of incentives.

01:51:23.000 When you incentivize something, you get more of it.

01:51:24.000 When you disincentivize something, you get less of it.

01:51:27.000 Amish man says, Ian said that he believes in God.

01:51:29.000 Argument over.

01:51:30.000 If you believe in God, then you accept miracles happen.

01:51:33.000 The creation of man out of nothing is a miracle.

01:51:35.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 Well, I don't think men are created out of nothing.

01:51:37.000 It's like hydrogen.

01:51:38.000 At first it's plasma, then it cools down and becomes hydrogen, and then it's fused into helium and sun.

01:51:44.000 Where did the energy come from?

01:51:45.000 I don't think.

01:51:46.000 I think it's always been here.

01:51:49.000 So God didn't create.

01:51:50.000 So you're saying you don't believe in God?

01:51:52.000 I think it's just always been here.

01:51:55.000 So, God did not create the created world?

01:51:59.000 Well, things got fused together to create what we know as matter, but...

01:52:04.000 Where'd the things come from?

01:52:07.000 It didn't have to have come from, like, I don't think it came from anything.

01:52:11.000 My response to all of this is, like, there exists things outside of human comprehension.

01:52:16.000 Like infinity.

01:52:17.000 Infinity.

01:52:17.000 It can be real.

01:52:19.000 So my issue with it is, I guess that's what I was trying to explain, you know, that we can't necessarily comprehend creation of matter.

01:52:31.000 We are within the confines of the system, so we don't know what exists beyond it.

01:52:36.000 And if we are to relate it to anything in our world, looking at, say, computer programs...

01:52:41.000 Mario has no intelligence compared to a human, we have no intelligence compared to God.

01:52:46.000 Also, if you're saying you believe in God, but you also think that this created world has just always been here, which I understand is a contradiction, are you saying that the universe is older than God?

01:52:59.000 I think time is not real.

01:53:00.000 Well, hold on.

01:53:02.000 Sorry, I don't think it's a contradiction.

01:53:04.000 Well, to say the created world has always been here means it wasn't created.

01:53:08.000 No, I would argue that time is a component of this universe created by God and that there perhaps is something well beyond it that we can't conceive of.

01:53:19.000 Sure, obviously if the universe is finite and space-time are part of the created world.

01:53:25.000 Then obviously there's something outside of that.

01:53:27.000 I'm just saying, you can't say it's both created and not created.

01:53:30.000 Right, think of it this way.

01:53:32.000 Imagine, however you want, God or an entity or whatever, and there is, creating the universe however you imagine what that is, time is a component of this reality that we don't necessarily perceive.

01:53:43.000 We move through in one direction as though we're falling.

01:53:46.000 So if you imagine time as a dimension, it would be like we are just free-falling.

01:53:50.000 We can't go back in the other direction, but the direction does exist.

01:53:54.000 And if it's possible that time is actually cyclical, that time is not moving from point A to point B, in fact it goes in a big circle and loops back around, then It would be perceived to us as always having been, because time is infinite.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, that's something more akin to what the Hindus or the Buddhists would believe.

01:54:17.000 But God could still have created it, because time is... Yeah, but not the Christian. 1.00

01:54:21.000 The Christian God would... 0.99

01:54:23.000 But that would imply that God is confined to time, and I don't believe that.

01:54:26.000 No, no, no.

01:54:26.000 God is outside of time and space, though he, through the Incarnation, takes part in time and space.

01:54:31.000 But I'm just saying that the notion, the Christian notion, is that history has a beginning, and history has an end, and history has this pivotal point, which is the Incarnation and the crucifixion and the resurrection.

01:54:43.000 But the idea that there is such a thing as history at all, and that we're moving.

01:54:47.000 That can still be true.

01:54:49.000 But then it wouldn't be cyclical.

01:54:50.000 If we're talking about the universe and all that it's matter is in a time loop, but there is a point that is a beginning and end of history, I think can exist as well.

01:54:59.000 So it's kind of like a loop-de-loop.

01:55:01.000 It's not a circle, it's just kind of going...

01:55:04.000 It's a spiral because it's moving in multiple dimensions.

01:55:07.000 It's circling, but it's also going forward, so it's spiraling.

01:55:11.000 But I'm just saying, even if it kind of goes on a loop-de-loop, if it starts one place and ends in another place, then it's linear, right?

01:55:18.000 Well, it's moving in every direction at once.

01:55:21.000 Well, interesting thoughts.

01:55:23.000 I'd have to think about it.

01:55:25.000 But let's read some more Super Chats. 0.95

01:55:26.000 I do like those.

01:55:27.000 It makes me think.

01:55:29.000 All right.

01:55:30.000 What do we got here?

01:55:31.000 Ooh, I like the simulation theory stuff.

01:55:34.000 Let's see, Mandalore the Mighty says, Simulation Theory is God, using Star Trek Technobabble.

01:55:41.000 Both are technically correct.

01:55:42.000 The best type of correct.

01:55:43.000 Futurama joke.

01:55:44.000 I was thinking a couple days ago, I think of God as like the movement of matter, the formation and creation and just animation of all things is God.

01:55:54.000 That is not what God is.

01:55:56.000 It's the way, it's the way things are moving.

01:55:59.000 And then I was like, God is the way.

01:56:01.000 And then I was like, oh, that actually says that in the Bible.

01:56:03.000 God is the way.

01:56:04.000 It's not a thing, it's the way.

01:56:05.000 But that's like saying in GTA, the computer code is the creator of the video game.

01:56:10.000 Right.

01:56:10.000 No, a human being programmed that video game.

01:56:12.000 I don't, there is no, I don't think this isn't a video game.

01:56:14.000 This has just always been here, this thing.

01:56:16.000 It's just, we're just part of this emotion.

01:56:17.000 The thing you're describing then is not, uh, God, that the being that you're describing is not God, you're just describing a kind of a nature worship, you're describing a kind of a paganism, which a lot of the New Age movements partake of, but you're saying that God is just kind of synonymous with nature or with different parts of nature, but that's a very different idea.

01:56:37.000 They said God is the way, the truth, and the light, and I thought truth is the way you communicate, The life is the way that you grow.

01:56:47.000 I mean, it's all just part of the way things move.

01:56:50.000 Let's read some more Super Chats, because otherwise we're just talking in circles.

01:56:53.000 Noah Sanders says, My dad and I have been making seltzers with fresh fruit and other ingredients.

01:56:57.000 Is there any advice y'all could give for starting up our own company to combat these ones that despise us?

01:57:01.000 We'd love to work with y'all one day.

01:57:03.000 Oh, that sounds fantastic.

01:57:05.000 How do we find the website?

01:57:07.000 You should have put the name in the Super Chat.

01:57:08.000 Let me know.

01:57:08.000 He should have put it in.

01:57:09.000 It's all I drink.

01:57:10.000 I drink black coffee, I drink booze, and I drink fruity, bubbly, millennial seltzer drinks.

01:57:16.000 That's all.

01:57:16.000 I don't drink tap water.

01:57:17.000 Ever.

01:57:18.000 No?

01:57:19.000 Very rarely in a pinch.

01:57:20.000 Otherwise, I am going to go bankrupt on Spindrift.

01:57:23.000 So if you give me a cheaper alternative, I'm there.

01:57:25.000 Yeah, that'd be great.

01:57:26.000 Seth Weathers sent a big ol' Super Chat.

01:57:27.000 He says, Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer loves TimCast.

01:57:31.000 Knowles is okay.

01:57:32.000 No, this is okay.

01:57:33.000 He could tell I'm not a beer drinker.

01:57:35.000 That's why I was fine when Bud Light went gay. 1.00

01:57:36.000 Or trans, I guess. 0.98

01:57:37.000 Because my preferred canned alcohol is White Claw, which is already so gay that they're never gonna have to sponsor a transvestite. 1.00

01:57:44.000 That's not even close. 0.54

01:57:45.000 It's already there.

01:57:45.000 I just don't drink alcohol.

01:57:46.000 I didn't.

01:57:48.000 I had an apple cider this past weekend.

01:57:50.000 Because I'm not like, oh, I will never drink.

01:57:52.000 It's usually just like, I just, it doesn't taste good.

01:57:54.000 Oh, a hard cider?

01:57:55.000 Yeah, like, I'll go out with people and they'll order beers and I'll be like, ah, what the heck, I'll get one.

01:57:59.000 I'll take one sip and be like, I'm done.

01:58:02.000 It is weird that a lot of very successful, high-performing people don't drink.

01:58:07.000 You don't drink.

01:58:08.000 Trump doesn't drink.

01:58:10.000 Charlie Kirk, I don't know that I've ever seen him drink.

01:58:15.000 I mean, I take health, I would say, moderately to highly seriously.

01:58:21.000 I wouldn't say extremely because then I'd be lifting.

01:58:24.000 But exercise, I cut the sugars down way, way down.

01:58:28.000 And I don't drink alcohol.

01:58:29.000 I don't smoke.

01:58:30.000 Also no tattoos.

01:58:31.000 You know what?

01:58:32.000 You want to know something really crazy to me that I've absolutely retained since I was a kid?

01:58:36.000 Like the Bible prohibition on tattoos and piercings.

01:58:40.000 When I when I learned that when I was a kid, I don't consider myself to be deeply religious, but I really just have an aversion to body modification.

01:58:48.000 Why?

01:58:48.000 Yeah, me.

01:58:49.000 Do you?

01:58:49.000 Oh, sorry to interrupt.

01:58:50.000 But why?

01:58:50.000 Why is that in the Bible?

01:58:52.000 Why?

01:58:52.000 No tattoos?

01:58:53.000 No, no piercing?

01:58:54.000 I kind of just feel like it's like, Your body man.

01:58:59.000 It's it's it's what was it's a beautiful snowflake.

01:59:02.000 It's like an anti-pagan thing It's not I mean, it's it's not an aspect of the unchanging moral law in the sense that it's it's more ceremonial and related to the nation of Israel, but I So I'll eat shellfish and I'll eat pork, but I yeah, I'm not into tattoos or body modification.

01:59:17.000 It doesn't do it for me I kinda just look at it like, uh, when- when, uh, raindrop is crystallizing and becomes a unique structure, humans are the same way, the energy comes together and forms something that is deeply unique, and then humans don't feel unique enough, and then wanna get tattoos and stuff, and that- and I don't care if other people do it, I'm not gonna- I'm not judging them, I'm just saying for me, I'm kinda like...

01:59:37.000 I don't want to, you know... If a marine gets a tattoo, or some kind of sailor gets a tattoo, or a convict or something, that seems right.

01:59:44.000 I don't know, there seems something fitting about that.

01:59:45.000 But what drives me crazy, when pretty girls get the tattoos... I'm not saying they can never look good, I'm not saying I'm totally... But I think these pretty... Why? 0.98

01:59:54.000 I have a controversial take, and it's that no attractive woman looks more attractive after getting a tattoo. 0.93

01:59:59.000 She'll still be attractive but right spite of her tattoo. 1.00

02:00:03.000 Yes. Yeah, I'd never it's at the very best neutral Which is rare and right but it never yeah, let's uh, let's

02:00:10.000 Let's grab one more super chat.

02:00:12.000 James Hates Everything says, Ian's nonsense tonight left me speechless, just like the best-selling book by Michael Knowles.

02:00:17.000 My man.

02:00:18.000 Here we go.

02:00:19.000 Where do people get that book?

02:00:20.000 We're like two years on.

02:00:21.000 I know.

02:00:21.000 You can get it wherever you buy fine number one best-selling books.

02:00:24.000 Turning your ad into a meme.

02:00:25.000 That is unbelievable.

02:00:27.000 Wow, great talk.

02:00:29.000 You know, it's the thing where jokes can start off kind of funny, and then they get really lame, and then they just get like very, very funny again.

02:00:36.000 Every time the joke is told, Michael Knoll's bank account goes up.

02:00:40.000 It literally does.

02:00:41.000 That certainly makes me smile.

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02:01:10.000 Michael, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:12.000 Yeah, I do.

02:01:12.000 I want to shout out a lot of stuff.

02:01:14.000 Obviously, we've got our chocolate bars here from Daily Wire.

02:01:17.000 She, her, and he, him.

02:01:18.000 Did you guys try it?

02:01:20.000 I didn't try it.

02:01:21.000 I'm kind of down on sugar these days.

02:01:22.000 I'm not really a food ASMR person.

02:01:24.000 I just tried.

02:01:25.000 I did ASMR for the first time.

02:01:27.000 You did?

02:01:28.000 Oh, it's unbearable.

02:01:29.000 I hate it.

02:01:30.000 It makes me angry.

02:01:31.000 What did you do?

02:01:32.000 Well, actually, this is the thing I'll shout out.

02:01:34.000 On my YouTube channel, Michael Knowles Show, you can subscribe.

02:01:36.000 We've been doing these extra releases in addition to my show, these really long interviews, Michael and, we did one with an exorcist, one with a kind of druggie who turned his life around, but then we do these breakouts of just kind of weird things that my producer Ben Davies wants to introduce me to, and he made me do Like a woman just chomping on a honeycomb.

02:01:56.000 And I figured it was kind of gross, but who cares?

02:01:59.000 I thought you meant you were gonna make the ASMR.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, I'm gonna start an OnlyFans.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, that's the other thing I'm shouting out.

02:02:05.000 No, I'm not doing any of those things.

02:02:06.000 Stop buying nudes from people who hate you!

02:02:09.000 Buy them from Michael instead!

02:02:12.000 He's just kidding.

02:02:13.000 Do you have more to shout out?

02:02:14.000 I do.

02:02:15.000 Yeah, let's see.

02:02:15.000 I already did ASMR.

02:02:17.000 I'm going to start doing a mukbang company. 1.00

02:02:19.000 Do you ever hear about that?

02:02:20.000 It's the other kind of that.

02:02:22.000 But I actually would say, if people want to head over to my YouTube channel, Michael Knowles Show, we're starting to branch out into the Yes or No Game, into Face Off, into these long interviews.

02:02:32.000 So check that out now.

02:02:34.000 The one with the Exorcist went viral in a short period of time.

02:02:36.000 It got well over two million views.

02:02:40.000 If you want more than just the Daily Politics, go check it out.

02:02:42.000 Can we play this game for the Uncensored show?

02:02:43.000 We should play the Yes or No. 0.70

02:02:45.000 Oh, did you make that?

02:02:46.000 Yes, we have this game, Yes or No game.

02:02:48.000 It's sold out.

02:02:48.000 I think we got more in though, so you can order it now at dailywire.com slash shop.

02:02:52.000 It is the number one board game on the internet, at least I'm saying that, and you can get it, you can watch the episodes on my show, you can play it yourself, and hey, who knows, maybe we'll play it over here.

02:03:02.000 In the Uncensored show, we'll bring it up.

02:03:04.000 I want to show you those memes that everyone wants you to see and have you react to, so we'll do that.

02:03:08.000 You got it?

02:03:09.000 You shouted everything?

02:03:09.000 Should we move on?

02:03:10.000 Let's see, I've got like 10 other things.

02:03:12.000 No, I'm joking.

02:03:13.000 All right, Mary.

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02:03:36.000 I'm gonna be on Pop Culture Crisis next Monday.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, you are.

02:03:39.000 I'm excited for that.

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02:03:42.000 I'm also gonna be in Austin, April 29th.

02:03:44.000 I will be with the Mises Caucus for the Take Human Action Tour, and that's TakeHumanActionTour.com for tickets.

02:03:51.000 Austin, Texas.

02:03:52.000 I think all the locations and everything is there, so hopefully I'll see you out there, and then we'll maybe chat after the show.

02:03:57.000 Looking forward to that.

02:03:57.000 Thanks.

02:03:58.000 Great conversation tonight, guys.

02:03:59.000 That was really, really fun.

02:04:00.000 This game's gonna be fun.

02:04:01.000 All right.

02:04:02.000 I'm already looking for questions.

02:04:02.000 Search TakeItAway.

02:04:04.000 Yeah, iamsurge.com.

02:04:06.000 I'm excited, Mike, for you to see 4chan memes.

02:04:09.000 Oh yeah!

02:04:10.000 I can't wait.

02:04:10.000 It's gonna be good.

02:04:11.000 Yeah, good show.

02:04:12.000 I enjoyed the camera work for this.

02:04:14.000 It was quite fun.

02:04:15.000 Yeah.

02:04:15.000 All right.

02:04:15.000 All right, everybody.

02:04:17.000 We will see you at timcast.com in a few minutes.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 19, 2023

Timcast IRL - Michael Knowles Event ATTACKED By Left, Explosives Causes Lockdown w-Michael Knowles

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