Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Mike Pompeo Announces Executive Action Against China, w- China Uncensored

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:28.000 you ladies and gentlemen the United States has been invaded by

00:00:55.000 Chinese communist authoritarians and the incoming president-elect is

00:01:00.000 compromised His son has accepted money from Chinese communist-connected individuals, and the incoming president actually flew his son on government property to China.

00:01:12.000 All of that was true, right?

00:01:13.000 I'm pretty sure I got it right?

00:01:14.000 Yeah, Air Force Two.

00:01:16.000 They flew together.

00:01:17.000 Now, as for the beginning part, I'm joined by China Uncensored, the host. 0.73

00:01:21.000 Do you guys want to introduce yourselves, and then would you like to fact-check what I just said?

00:01:25.000 I'm not certified by Facebook, so I don't really see that my... Excellent, then it must be true.

00:01:29.000 It must be.

00:01:30.000 There we go.

00:01:31.000 So who are you guys?

00:01:32.000 I'm Chris Chappell, the host of China Uncensored, and... I'm Shelley Zhang, the humor ninja of China Uncensored.

00:01:39.000 That's right.

00:01:39.000 I'm not funny without her.

00:01:41.000 Right on.

00:01:41.000 Luke's also hanging out.

00:01:42.000 We got Luke Krakowski chilling over here.

00:01:43.000 Yep.

00:01:44.000 I have to say I am disappointed, angry and frustrated, Tim.

00:01:49.000 The Emmys never got in contact with me for my amazing acting yesterday with your little arms.

00:01:54.000 And if Andrew Como could win an Emmy, so can I. Anything can happen.

00:01:59.000 And also, specifically, thank you everyone who reached out to me through Venmo and Cash App, through Luke We Are Change.

00:02:05.000 I got like 500 bucks.

00:02:06.000 It means a lot to me.

00:02:07.000 Thank you so much.

00:02:09.000 The community here, I have to say, is utterly amazing and super funny.

00:02:13.000 And I appreciate you guys a lot.

00:02:16.000 Thank you.

00:02:16.000 We've got a lot to talk about today.

00:02:17.000 Of course, we've got Sour Patch Lids over producing and pushing all the buns.

00:02:23.000 So I opened by saying that the United States is being invaded by Chinese communist authoritarians. 0.94

00:02:29.000 What are your thoughts?

00:02:30.000 Well, I might have suggested that.

00:02:34.000 That's why I said it.

00:02:36.000 Yeah.

00:02:38.000 Well, I mean, essentially, that is the big story.

00:02:40.000 That's how we kind of found ourselves making a satirical show about China news.

00:02:46.000 The Chinese Communist Party is having a tremendous influence in US, well, the entire society, in politics, in media, in local level to the federal level.

00:02:57.000 And, you know, not a lot of people were talking about it when we started the show in 2012.

00:03:02.000 It's coming out now, though.

00:03:03.000 Yeah, so I've been covering quite a bit of news for a long time.

00:03:07.000 When I was working for the company Fusion in 2014, they actually did cover a big story.

00:03:12.000 I think this was the Nicaraguan Canal.

00:03:14.000 Are you guys familiar with the Nicaraguan Canal?

00:03:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:17.000 China was essentially trying to bypass the Panama Canal, and it was a ridiculous project that would have destroyed a large freshwater aquifer and been very, very disastrous, but ultimately got abandoned.

00:03:27.000 So there have been reporters I've seen who have been tracking this stuff.

00:03:31.000 But it's never making, as far as I've seen, the big headlines, the front page of the New York Times, the things that are going on with China buying property in all of these different countries.

00:03:43.000 Like, they're buying up communities in certain places, owning all the land, and they're doing oil exploration in Africa, South America, they've got a ton of influence with security services in the South American countries, and it seems like probably I would say, in my opinion, the biggest threat to the United States and probably to what we would define as liberal democracy or constitutional republic, like the United States, is Chinese communist subversion. 0.95

00:04:07.000 I mean, I think that's definitely true.

00:04:09.000 And around the world, every time we talk to a, uh, you know, human rights activist from, you know, from Bolivia, from Cambodia, from Mauritania.

00:04:17.000 Yeah.

00:04:18.000 Like they are always talking about how China is basically infiltrating their countries, paying off their dictators, um, putting their countries in debt, taking all their national resources.

00:04:28.000 So, you know, this is like very, it's been happening for years and people are only starting to realize it now, I think.

00:04:36.000 Might be too late.

00:04:38.000 I don't think it is too late.

00:04:43.000 It's definitely getting close to being too late, but it really depends on just the general American public.

00:04:50.000 Not just the American public, but in liberal democracies around the world.

00:04:53.000 I don't know.

00:04:55.000 LeBron James said China good.

00:04:57.000 Steve Kerr too.

00:04:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:00.000 LeBron James is famous.

00:05:02.000 He's actually very good.

00:05:04.000 He's more famous than us.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:05:06.000 Yeah.

00:05:06.000 So he goes up there and he tells all these people, nah, chill.

00:05:09.000 It's cool.

00:05:09.000 China's all right.

00:05:10.000 Well, no, the NBA has had a huge backlash.

00:05:13.000 Specifically, this was one of the major turning points, I think, in the past year or two of people becoming aware of the influence the Chinese Communist Party has.

00:05:22.000 When Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey, he tweeted something in support of the protests happening in Hong Kong.

00:05:30.000 Huge.

00:05:31.000 NBA has like a four billion dollar contract.

00:05:32.000 Well, he tweeted free Hong Kong.

00:05:34.000 Yeah.

00:05:34.000 And like the NBA has a huge contract in China.

00:05:37.000 Four billion dollars.

00:05:38.000 Is that about right?

00:05:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:05:40.000 It's a lot.

00:05:41.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 And yeah, so there there was talk of like them firing him.

00:05:46.000 And there were even like Americans who went to basketball games, like holding like free Hong Kong signs.

00:05:52.000 Yes, I remember.

00:05:54.000 Yeah, so this was a case where like people saw, oh, wait, Americans are being censored in America because of what's happening in China. 0.51

00:06:01.000 And so that was a big moment of like, you know, maybe LeBron James, maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:06:07.000 The NBA had a basketball camp in Xinjiang where the Uyghurs are being imprisoned.

00:06:15.000 They only stopped that like a month or two ago like this year that like they had a Partnership with a Chinese, you know organization that was doing a basketball.

00:06:24.000 That's great.

00:06:25.000 They could have waved to the Mulan production Also, very interestingly there's some reports coming out of Australia that Nike that of course hires LeBron James and is a Almost going to make him a billionaire, that they're also using some Uighur Muslim slaves in order to produce some of their products. 0.82

00:06:44.000 Sneakers and of course also the NBA jerseys that a lot of the NBA players wear.

00:06:48.000 What do you make of these kind of reports coming from Australia?

00:06:52.000 Do you think they're legitimate and do you think there's any credence behind them?

00:06:55.000 Well, I think one sad thing that does need to be mentioned is that you have companies like Apple and Nike, like, actually lobbying against a bill going through Congress right now about forced labor in China.

00:07:08.000 They don't want it to pass.

00:07:10.000 And this is the big issue that you see, that, you know, if you treat China like a country that has concentration camps, you can't treat it like a normal country, you know?

00:07:20.000 We should all be investing money and doing a lot of business.

00:07:23.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:07:24.000 Buy their bonds.

00:07:25.000 Don't buy their bonds.

00:07:28.000 Yeah.

00:07:28.000 I mean, I think the, it was the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that did that study.

00:07:34.000 And they're, they did a lot of research into this and it's pretty legit.

00:07:38.000 Like, I don't think it's, the Chinese Communist Party got really pissed off about them publishing that.

00:07:43.000 Like, they're basically punishing Australia right now with a big trade war.

00:07:49.000 And one of the things that they were mad about was this particular think tank talking about the Uyghur stuff.

00:07:54.000 Like, they had this, like, 14-point bulletin of the things that Australia's done wrong.

00:07:58.000 And that was on the list.

00:07:59.000 Didn't the Chinese government release a fake video of allegedly an Australian soldier hurting a small Afghani?

00:08:06.000 It was a photo.

00:08:08.000 Yeah, it was a propaganda poster.

00:08:10.000 It was an art illustration.

00:08:12.000 So I think it's safe to say that relations between China and Australia aren't really the best right now.

00:08:17.000 The funniest thing that happened recently is the fact that they stopped Australian coal imports as part of this trade war thing.

00:08:23.000 Wow.

00:08:24.000 And now there are several cities in China that are running out of power because they were dependent on these coal imports.

00:08:30.000 Unnecessary sacrifice for the greater good.

00:08:32.000 And, you know, so now, like, there's reports that they're, like, doing, like, rolling blackout kind of things because they're running out of power, because they, like, stopped the Australian coal, because they want to punish Australia.

00:08:41.000 They shot themselves in the foot.

00:08:43.000 They're also in a really critical situation with food supplies because they had unprecedented flooding this summer.

00:08:48.000 That's right.

00:08:49.000 And so they've been importing more grain than ever, like it's up 30% from the previous year.

00:08:56.000 The floods were hitting Wuhan, right?

00:08:59.000 Yes.

00:08:59.000 Wuhan has had a very bad year.

00:09:01.000 Interesting.

00:09:02.000 A very bad year.

00:09:02.000 Of all the cities.

00:09:04.000 I suppose there's other cities that had bad years, though, in China, so it's not just Wuhan.

00:09:07.000 Well, yeah, they probably all had a pretty bad year.

00:09:10.000 Yeah.

00:09:11.000 Well, let's jump to the first big story.

00:09:13.000 Before we do, make sure you guys smash that like button, and share this video, share the podcast if you really do think we're doing a good job, and help support the channel.

00:09:21.000 But we have this breaking news coming out of the State Department, and I'll tell you the first and the weirdest thing.

00:09:27.000 Nobody's written about this.

00:09:28.000 We were sitting here waiting all day.

00:09:29.000 There's a big announcement.

00:09:30.000 Mike Pompeo said executive action was coming later today.

00:09:33.000 It was gonna be big news.

00:09:35.000 And a lot of people were wondering, would this be Trump firing off that executive order over foreign election interference, finally taking control and winning the election?

00:09:43.000 And no, it's...

00:09:45.000 U.S.

00:09:46.000 imposes sanctions on People's Republic of China actors linked to malign activities.

00:09:51.000 So it's a lot to do with mass surveillance, military modernization, human rights abuses, and the South China Sea.

00:09:56.000 And it's about sanctions against specific members of the Chinese Communist Party, who, of course, the State Department, Trump's administration have been railing against a whole lot.

00:10:04.000 So it's not what a lot of Trump supporters were crossing their fingers

00:10:08.000 for, but it is still pretty significant action.

00:10:11.000 From the latest actions we've seen from the US government, one of the biggest impacts that I can say will hit you is

00:10:18.000 that when you go to Best Buy,

00:10:20.000 and you want to get that fancy little gimbal to film things with,

00:10:23.000 or you want a drone, you ain't gonna get it.

00:10:25.000 U.S.

00:10:25.000 government adds DJI to commerce blacklist over ties to the Chinese government.

00:10:30.000 American companies will be forbidden from exporting technology to the drone maker.

00:10:35.000 So, perhaps we can still end up getting it here.

00:10:37.000 It doesn't seem like it'd be likely.

00:10:39.000 I don't know.

00:10:39.000 Do you guys know about this?

00:10:40.000 What's going on with the DJI thing?

00:10:42.000 I think it's generally they've been added to this blacklist that means that U.S.

00:10:46.000 companies can't export technology to them.

00:10:49.000 So they can still send it here then?

00:10:51.000 Yeah, I think like Huawei can still, for example, sell phones in the U.S., but they just can't, you know, buy U.S.

00:10:57.000 like semiconductor chips.

00:10:58.000 That's kind of weird because it wasn't like part of the reason why we weren't buying technology from China is because they're putting secret stuff in it to spy on us.

00:11:07.000 Yeah.

00:11:08.000 But I think like legally this Commerce Department entity list is only like can prevent U.S.

00:11:14.000 companies from exporting things or from selling technology to them.

00:11:17.000 But you're allowed to buy whatever you want, I guess.

00:11:20.000 Yeah.

00:11:20.000 So I think it's about time we we ramped up.

00:11:23.000 This is my opinion.

00:11:24.000 Maybe, you know, you guys are the experts.

00:11:26.000 Maybe we should sanction China to an absolutely absurd degree across the board until they end what they're doing to the Uyghur Muslims. 1.00

00:11:32.000 Well, you'd need to get Wall Street on board with that, and that might be pretty challenging.

00:11:37.000 I got a shed full of pitchforks and torches.

00:11:39.000 Do you got a couple thousand people?

00:11:41.000 Maybe we can occupy Wall Street.

00:11:43.000 Hey, has that ever been tried before?

00:11:45.000 I don't think so.

00:11:46.000 Have careers ever been built on that before?

00:11:48.000 No, interestingly, it was tried.

00:11:51.000 They never actually did.

00:11:52.000 They never made it to Wall Street.

00:11:54.000 They went to Zuccotti Park down the road.

00:11:55.000 That's true.

00:11:56.000 I was there the day they walked into Zuccotti Park.

00:11:59.000 It was weird.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, very weird.

00:12:01.000 But we have, what, Disney did Mulan, you know, where they have concentration camps, and then they thank... Education camps, right?

00:12:12.000 Concentration camps.

00:12:14.000 Vocational training.

00:12:15.000 Camps to lift them out of poverty, isn't that what they said?

00:12:18.000 And to prevent extremism.

00:12:20.000 Got it.

00:12:21.000 All for the good.

00:12:22.000 So Disney famously thanked the, what was it called?

00:12:26.000 the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau.

00:12:28.000 A country that has public security bureaus and Ministry of Security.

00:12:32.000 Amazing.

00:12:33.000 And they kind of defended themselves by going like, well, we're just supposed to thank the areas that helped us.

00:12:39.000 We filmed lots of places.

00:12:40.000 Some had concentration camps.

00:12:43.000 Apparently.

00:12:44.000 Some of the people we thanked were responsible for those concentration camps.

00:12:48.000 You know, it happens.

00:12:50.000 It's not that we're thanking them for the genocide.

00:12:53.000 No, no.

00:12:54.000 It's that we're just grateful that some of these people won't be alive anymore.

00:12:59.000 That's a family guy joke, by the way.

00:13:01.000 The official Chinese communist stance is that this is vocational training centers that are a part of a poverty aviliation scheme to help train poor rural workers to learn Chinese and find employment.

00:13:14.000 And they have to shave their heads and make them wear jumpsuits, right?

00:13:18.000 It's almost like a beautiful work of art, the way that they've managed to make all this propaganda feed into each other.

00:13:24.000 Because one of the biggest propaganda elements that they use in China is we've lifted millions of people out of poverty and they'll use that as like a human rights thing like they'll be like whenever like human rights day rolls around like December 10th uh they'll be like you know our biggest human rights achievement is lifting millions of people out of poverty even though

00:13:44.000 They destroyed the economy in the first place.

00:13:48.000 And then when they backed off and stopped, you know, controlling everything and let people make money again, people lifted themselves out of poverty.

00:13:55.000 But the other part of it is they kind of use that to cover up all their other human rights atrocities.

00:14:01.000 So if you talk about, you know, being out of poverty as a human right, that's...

00:14:06.000 So just, you know, we kind of made some, I guess we can call it a dark humor, crude joke, very, very dark.

00:14:14.000 But I did kind of rip off Family Guy in that one, in my defense.

00:14:17.000 But considering the actual severity of the things that China's doing, particularly in this area, shouldn't we stop American companies from investing in this kind of stuff?

00:14:27.000 Or from having factories, from having production in China, until they stop doing this?

00:14:32.000 Yeah, as I said earlier, it's an issue of like, people don't think of China as like a horrible authoritarian regime that has concentration camps.

00:14:39.000 They think of it because China has been very successful at a soft power push and buying off, it's called elite capture, basically buying off politicians, people in the media.

00:14:49.000 Wall Street, like you said.

00:14:50.000 Wall Street.

00:14:51.000 So it's just an issue of like, Most Americans don't know it.

00:14:55.000 Like, Americans really understood what was happening.

00:14:57.000 I don't think they would tolerate Nike trying to, you know, shoot down a forced labor bill.

00:15:05.000 I mean, they're doing it.

00:15:06.000 They are doing that, but I don't think people really know about that.

00:15:08.000 No, they don't.

00:15:10.000 And that's kind of scary.

00:15:11.000 You know, I've had conversations with... I have a friend from Ukraine.

00:15:16.000 And when I was there during the big, you know, it's 2013, 24, I think it was 24, well, 2013, when they had the big protest that ultimately led to separatist movement and conflict.

00:15:24.000 I was talking to a friend who was talking about how she's gonna make the world a better place, very lefty, leftist kind of mentality.

00:15:31.000 And I said, but do you really believe that?

00:15:33.000 I mean, the computer you're using was made at the Foxconn labs in China, where people are walking off the buildings in mass suicide because of how horrific the conditions are.

00:15:42.000 And she had no idea.

00:15:43.000 And it actually made her cry.

00:15:44.000 When she was like, but I'm trying to help my people.

00:15:47.000 She was like, I'm trying to help the world be better.

00:15:49.000 And I said, no, no, no, no.

00:15:50.000 You're trying to help yourself and your community.

00:15:53.000 And I'm fine with that.

00:15:53.000 I can respect that.

00:15:55.000 You know, you want the people where you live to do better.

00:15:57.000 But you realize the fact that you have that computer and that phone.

00:16:01.000 You have people working in essentially slave labor conditions, jammed in these tiny boxes, and it's so bad, they actually put up suicide nets around the building to catch people from just walking off the edge.

00:16:12.000 I was like, when you give them money, you're propping that system up, and you're actually making it worse.

00:16:17.000 That kind of made her, you know, it was kind of harsh.

00:16:19.000 She kind of had a hard realization of what was going on, you know?

00:16:22.000 Well, actually, I think to an extent, if people were focused more on building up their communities, you know, the issues like the when China joined the World Trade Organization, like American manufacturing got gutted, lots of jobs went to China, you know, it's, it's insane that because of, you know, various regulations, it's cheaper to make stuff in China and sale it all the way around the world, rather than having it made You're telling me, man.

00:16:48.000 Down the street.

00:16:48.000 Skateboards.

00:16:49.000 Really?

00:16:50.000 Skateboards.

00:16:50.000 The wood comes from Canada.

00:16:52.000 Uh-huh.

00:16:52.000 They ship it to China.

00:16:54.000 They make it into a skateboard and ship it back to the U.S.

00:16:56.000 Now, some of that's been changing a bit.

00:16:58.000 Uh-huh.

00:16:58.000 Now, some of the manufacturing's done in Mexico.

00:17:00.000 But that was always the craziest thing to me.

00:17:03.000 They're like, we make our boards from 100% pure rock Canadian maple.

00:17:07.000 And I'm like, wow, where's your factory?

00:17:08.000 In China.

00:17:09.000 Mm-hmm.

00:17:09.000 So you get the wood from Canada, send it to China, then send it back?

00:17:12.000 That's insane!

00:17:13.000 And that is the cheaper option.

00:17:15.000 Exactly.

00:17:15.000 That's something wrong.

00:17:16.000 And it's because the people in China are being paid trash, and there's no, you know, look, if you hire someone in North America, guess what? 0.90

00:17:25.000 You gotta pay taxes, you gotta pay healthcare, in many circumstances, and the wages are typically much higher.

00:17:31.000 So these big companies have found a way to essentially extract What's what's left of the value of the US and China's found a way because what essentially happens is The American workers lose their jobs and make no money then they eventually can't even buy the product So the rich people extract the money from the poor people and then the people getting paid are in China And then eventually there's nothing left for the people in this country

00:17:52.000 It's a win-win for the super-rich.

00:17:55.000 That was essentially a blueprint of what Henry Kissinger, Richard Nixon, and David Rockefeller had proposed when they went to China and, quote, opened up China to the rest of the world.

00:18:07.000 And that was such a significant meeting.

00:18:09.000 And we still have to understand, the person who essentially blueprinted this, who made this happen, Henry Kissinger, He's still around being rewarded and seen as some great kind of diplomat.

00:18:20.000 Meanwhile, when we actually see the ramifications of his actions, the consequences are severe and they don't work out in anyone's favor except for the super rich.

00:18:29.000 So I don't know if you guys know a lot about the opening of China, but I think you guys probably know more than me about that.

00:18:36.000 Well, gosh, that's a huge topic.

00:18:37.000 Did you see that Kissinger was in the news a few weeks ago for advising Biden to basically reset relations with China?

00:18:47.000 Wow.

00:18:47.000 Yeah.

00:18:47.000 So the same guy who made the blueprints is now telling Biden what to do.

00:18:50.000 Well, Trump fired him.

00:18:51.000 He did.

00:18:52.000 He purged the advisory board of the Pentagon, which included Kissinger.

00:18:55.000 I was honestly shocked to hear that he had a position that he could still be fired from.

00:18:58.000 I know, right?

00:19:00.000 And he's still alive!

00:19:01.000 He advises the Pope, okay?

00:19:03.000 Barack Obama's national security advisor said that he... Susan Rice?

00:19:07.000 No, no, no, there's a different one.

00:19:08.000 I believe his name was O'Neill, said that he takes his daily orders from Henry Kissinger when he was the acting national security advisor.

00:19:16.000 So Kissinger has a lot of influence, a lot of powers, but we see where his allegiance lies, especially with the policies that he set forward that had these huge ramifications and essentially destroyed all the manufacturing, blue-collar, middle-class jobs, and they took them and replaced them in China, where now we have all of our goods, all of our resources sent to them to be processed by sometimes slaves, sometimes the Uyghurs, sometimes by individuals who have no other option, But to make your little goods and they send them back to you so the super rich could sell you them on Amazon and Walmart.

00:19:48.000 Walmart, by the way, who's investing in Wuhan.

00:19:52.000 I don't know if people knew this, but Walmart is investing a huge, substantial amount of their profits to Wuhan of all places in the world.

00:20:01.000 It's a safer investment.

00:20:02.000 Think about it.

00:20:03.000 In the United States, we protect the little guy to the best of our abilities.

00:20:06.000 It's not perfect by any means.

00:20:07.000 The elites certainly extract value and can suppress and oppress, you know, workers and unions and things like that.

00:20:13.000 Not that unions are perfect at all, by any stretch of the imagination.

00:20:16.000 But with, you know, investment into China, you know that if your company is successful, the Chinese Communist Party will put the boot down on anyone who dares oppose you.

00:20:24.000 So you think about the risks in the United States.

00:20:26.000 Labor laws, healthcare, ugh! 0.99

00:20:28.000 Why should we have to worry about the little people? 1.00

00:20:32.000 The elites in this country have found a way to extract the value, partly by sending things to be manufactured for dirt wages in China, and then once they've gutted the manufacturing base of this country, and everyone's saddled with ridiculous debt, and the only way people can think to get a job is to go to college, rack up massive debt, and then they can't find a job, the elites will just leave.

00:20:52.000 These are people with tons of money.

00:20:53.000 They've probably got money in Panama, or wherever they were storing it, Cayman Islands or whatever.

00:20:58.000 And they can easily just be like, well, you know, we've extracted all that we can out of this country.

00:21:01.000 It's nothing left but a withered husk.

00:21:04.000 Time to go to China! 0.97

00:21:05.000 Invest in the real estate or the companies there, and then you have protections based on the authoritarianism of that nation.

00:21:12.000 They're kind of screwing themselves, though.

00:21:13.000 Really?

00:21:14.000 I don't have to say that.

00:21:14.000 Because they believe the Chinese Communist Party will not screw them.

00:21:20.000 And it's completely, like, so many people have been screwed going into China.

00:21:24.000 These businesses, tech companies, Famously, a few years ago, there was like a U.S.

00:21:30.000 wind turbine manufacturer made the solar, not solar, the wind turbines for wind power, and they found out that their Chinese joint venture partner, because legally you must have a Chinese company work with you when you go into China, you cannot go in by yourself.

00:21:45.000 As well as party cells.

00:21:46.000 You have to have, if you have more than 50 employees in China, you must have a Chinese Communist Party branch within your company.

00:21:52.000 This is law.

00:21:53.000 Wow.

00:21:54.000 And then they found out that their partner was basically replacing all of that.

00:21:58.000 They had stolen their property, like intellectual property, and had replaced the stuff in their wind turbines with their knockoff version.

00:22:07.000 Wow!

00:22:08.000 That's amazing.

00:22:08.000 And they basically were able to take away all of their business.

00:22:12.000 And this is not like an isolated incident.

00:22:14.000 It happened to Segway.

00:22:15.000 There was a Chinese knockoff Segway.

00:22:19.000 that stole their technology, got so much bigger, and then they bought Segway.

00:22:23.000 Wow.

00:22:24.000 And then, like, nobody talks about it because you don't want to admit that this happened to you. 0.89

00:22:29.000 So then, like, these companies go in, they get screwed. 0.95

00:22:33.000 Then the pharma companies go in, they get screwed. 0.99

00:22:35.000 Hollywood goes in, they get screwed. 0.98

00:22:36.000 Wasn't Google supposed to go into China? 0.87

00:22:38.000 Weren't they making a special Chinese Google search engine, which they scrapped?

00:22:43.000 And aren't they still working on artificial intelligence with the Chinese government?

00:22:46.000 What's the story with that?

00:22:47.000 Well, so what happened with, like, back in like 2000, was it 7, 8, 9, Google was in China for a while, and they were trying to, like, kind of work within the system, you know, censor some stuff, but then, like, they hacked Gmail and got, like, the information of a bunch of Chinese citizens, and then they were at, to their credit at the time, were like, We're uncensoring our search, kick us out of China.

00:23:10.000 And then a few years later, they realized, well, they removed don't be evil from their byline.

00:23:17.000 And then they started secretly working on a censored search app.

00:23:20.000 That's a really weird thing to do for anyone.

00:23:23.000 Even if you were planning on being evil, wouldn't you at least lie?

00:23:26.000 But to be like, we've once said we didn't want to be evil, but now we're kind of thinking, you know, go either way, huh?

00:23:32.000 It was an interesting, I wonder who was behind that decision.

00:23:35.000 They were like, what happens if we have to be evil?

00:23:38.000 You know, and then people are going to yell at us.

00:23:40.000 Let's just take it away.

00:23:41.000 And then when we are evil, we'll be like, well, we got rid of that thing.

00:23:43.000 That's why I don't blame them for what they were doing.

00:23:46.000 I do think that Google's Project Dragonfly was one example of something where people made enough of a stink about it that they could not handle the bad PR and scrapped it.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, even their employees were like, what?

00:23:57.000 Cause it was secret from the employees.

00:23:58.000 Right, right, right.

00:24:00.000 So yeah, that's a good example.

00:24:01.000 So the, uh, you know, go ahead.

00:24:04.000 Well, so somebody, somebody once framed for me pretty clearly, like if the Chinese communist party, like actually like sent in planes and troops and tanks and like took over the United States, you know, started gutting it, the manufacturing gutting, like all the technology in Silicon Valley replaced politicians, people would freak out and it would be like the biggest, bloodiest insurgency in history. 0.82

00:24:24.000 Mm-hmm.

00:24:29.000 They've bought off a lot of people in Hollywood and the media.

00:24:34.000 And the same things are happening.

00:24:36.000 Intellectual property theft up Silicon Valley.

00:24:39.000 So we have been invaded just what they call unrestricted warfare.

00:24:43.000 I'd put it this way.

00:24:44.000 If China invaded the U.S., started seizing large swaths of land, started compromising our politicians and sleeping with certain California congressmen, and stripping away intellectual property rights and 0.66

00:24:59.000 basically, you know, using our own companies against us. Censoring our movies. Then what would happen is

00:25:04.000 the American people, I tell you this, because the American people are lazy and complacent.

00:25:11.000 They'd roll over and be like, well, you know, I'm not gonna do anything about it.

00:25:14.000 We literally have Joe Biden, they say, is gonna be the president on January 20th.

00:25:19.000 He's gonna be inaugurated.

00:25:20.000 And we've already had one of his former family confidants, Tony Bobulinski, come out and say, I believe Joe Biden is compromised by China.

00:25:28.000 We have two investigations into the Biden family from Jim Biden, Joe's brother, and Hunter Biden.

00:25:34.000 And we know for a fact that Joe Biden himself flew his son on Air Force Two to China for these private

00:25:41.000 equity deals.

00:25:41.000 My first question is, I don't care what you got to say about any of these investigations.

00:25:45.000 Shouldn't we stop and be like, why is Joe Biden using government property to enrich his son?

00:25:50.000 Why did he bring his son on this plane to negotiate this deal? That's suspect already.

00:25:55.000 Father-son bonding.

00:25:57.000 Yeah.

00:25:57.000 Or outright and overt corruption by which 80 million people will support it.

00:26:02.000 So I tell you, if the Chinese were like, we're going to take over your country, you'd have 80 million people screaming and clapping and cheering for it. 1.00

00:26:09.000 Well, they don't.

00:26:10.000 How are they supposed to know about the Hunter Biden thing?

00:26:12.000 The media, like, actively censored that.

00:26:15.000 We got smeared for covering that, actually.

00:26:17.000 We did.

00:26:17.000 Yeah.

00:26:18.000 That it was like, that it was far-right Russian disinformation.

00:26:23.000 Despite the criminal investigation that is actually going on.

00:26:25.000 And we knew about it.

00:26:27.000 And despite the email that happened in 2017 with Hunter Biden asking a very famous Chinese energy tycoon best wishes for the holidays and asking him for $10 million.

00:26:38.000 Or where he said, we're trying to get a room for, you know, we're trying to get an office for everybody, including this, you know, Chinese company, as well as Joe and whatever.

00:26:49.000 They were office mates, I suppose.

00:26:51.000 So look, there's enough, I would say, circumstantial evidence to, in my opinion, warrant riots in the streets

00:27:00.000 from the American people.

00:27:01.000 But you said you had pitchforks here.

00:27:03.000 Yeah, I have a squeegee.

00:27:05.000 That's as close as I can get to something on a stick.

00:27:08.000 So the pitchfork was a lie?

00:27:09.000 Yes, it was fake news.

00:27:11.000 I am disillusioned by this show.

00:27:13.000 I do have matches, though.

00:27:15.000 They're the really good ones.

00:27:16.000 They're the Strike Anywhere matches.

00:27:19.000 So you can hold it up and you'll look not nearly as angry.

00:27:23.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 You'll burn your fingers in, like, 20 seconds.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:27:27.000 I think you can't use that analogy anymore about, like, torches and pitchforks.

00:27:31.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:31.000 Ever since the tiki torches became, like, the wrong kind of thing, you know what I mean?

00:27:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:38.000 So, you know, I'm looking at a lot about what's going on, say, in New York and California.

00:27:44.000 It's not just that our economy is being gutted, our manufacturing is being sent over to China.

00:27:49.000 We don't even make our own medicine anymore.

00:27:50.000 That was the craziest thing.

00:27:52.000 We had a pandemic hit, and we're like, we need medicine quick!

00:27:56.000 Call China, because we don't have any factories that can actually make it. 0.93

00:27:59.000 The coronavirus really made a lot of people become aware of the situation, like when medical supplies, even things like kettlebells, you couldn't get it because everything was made in China. 1.00

00:28:09.000 I mean, right now, it's still hard to get a lot of specific equipment, professional equipment, bicycles.

00:28:17.000 It's all made in China. 1.00

00:28:18.000 It's interesting on the medical side, like, we actually do do a lot of pharmaceuticals, but a lot of the raw ingredients.

00:28:24.000 So, the things that go into the drugs come from China, and there's nowhere else that you can get them.

00:28:29.000 And the craziest thing, too, is rare earth minerals, right?

00:28:32.000 Which we use for, I guess, smartphones, among other things.

00:28:35.000 We get it almost exclusively from China, right?

00:28:38.000 So Japan did recently find, like, a big...

00:28:41.000 Survive.

00:28:41.000 There are rare earth minerals in the U.S.

00:28:43.000 It's actually not uncommon to find.

00:28:45.000 There are rare earth minerals in the U.S.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:47.000 But we just go for it, China.

00:28:49.000 We're just going to give all of our money and keep printing it.

00:28:51.000 Now we've got 35% of all U.S.

00:28:53.000 dollars just being printed like crazy.

00:28:55.000 We can't wait to get some.

00:28:56.000 We've got New York, California, Michigan.

00:28:59.000 These states have violated the constitution beyond any record.

00:29:03.000 Like, I mean, listen, if you come out and you say, we need to have an argument about gun control.

00:29:07.000 I understand the second amendment, but you can still have a right to keep and bear arms with some restrictions.

00:29:11.000 There's an argument and people actually argue it.

00:29:13.000 Although many people are now becoming rather to a absolutist because of, you know, the riots and the craziness.

00:29:17.000 But in, in, in, uh, you look at New York, Andrew Cuomo was like, if you're protesting, you're okay.

00:29:26.000 You have your rights.

00:29:27.000 If you are pro Joe Biden, please come out, dance in the street and drink champagne together.

00:29:32.000 But if you want to go to a church, never gonna happen.

00:29:36.000 If you want to run your business because you're running out of money and you need to feed your family, no dice.

00:29:40.000 This is extreme degrees of authoritarian, despotic, I don't even know, is there a word more harsh than I can get?

00:29:50.000 Psychopathic malevolence?

00:29:52.000 Where he's basically sent, you know, he had NYPD going to Jewish schools with children, and the cops would point their phones inside the windows to film them to prosecute.

00:30:02.000 NYPD, police officers, went undercover to a restaurant, ordered food, and then as soon as the person delivered it, arrested them.

00:30:09.000 That's the level of depravity coming from the likes of Cuomo.

00:30:13.000 And no one in this country is doing anything, and the police officers support it.

00:30:18.000 So, you know, to make sure I'm not trying to get off on a tangent outside of the China stuff, when we hear that there's Chinese authoritarian communism and things like this, the American people seem to just roll over and take it for the most part in these blue cities.

00:30:29.000 But I'll tell you, I don't see the political willpower from Trump supporters or anyone who could do anything to stop it at this point.

00:30:35.000 They're going to completely destroy the economy, and they already have.

00:30:39.000 The federal debt-to-GDP ratio is now at 128.6%.

00:30:42.000 We're dropping and collapsing so quickly that when many people talk about Thucydides' Trap, and are you familiar with Thucydides' Trap?

00:30:51.000 I talked about it quite a bit several months ago.

00:30:53.000 That there's been fear for years that we will eventually get into a full-scale war, a hot war with China, because there are rising economic power.

00:31:01.000 Well, I guess there's one way to avoid it.

00:31:03.000 Have our own politicians destroy this country from the inside out, and then there won't need to be a war. 0.85

00:31:08.000 You know, I think we did this episode pretty early on the coronavirus called The Cure for Coronavirus is Not Authoritarianism, and it was based on the idea that the Chinese Communist Party was trying to use their model of controlling the coronavirus, which is locking people in their homes, Literally welding them into their homes. 0.84

00:31:30.000 Welding people in their homes, dragging people out of their homes to put them in quarantine, you know, arresting people, like beating people up for being on the streets when there was a lockdown, and kind of like providing that as a model for other countries as to like, this is the way to deal with the coronavirus.

00:31:46.000 And you did see Western media somewhere like, hey, you know, it might be a little authoritarian, but it's working.

00:31:51.000 Yeah, like, you know, they got rid of it.

00:31:53.000 So it kind of worked.

00:31:54.000 So I think, in a way, like, the things that you're talking about in New York, or the excessive things that they're doing in California and the different places, like, you know, it was almost like, it was like, it happened in China that they did this lockdown, then it happened in Italy that they did the lockdown.

00:32:09.000 It kind of gave permission, in a way, for all of these, you know, people, politicians in different areas to be like, this is the way to deal with it.

00:32:16.000 It was modeled off of it.

00:32:17.000 And because China lies about the actual coronavirus numbers, it seems effective. 0.99

00:32:22.000 But the numbers in China are completely fake.

00:32:24.000 It's obvious if you look at it.

00:32:25.000 Yeah, I really wanted to ask you this, but it's kind of strange that these kind of top Democrats,

00:32:30.000 even the New York City mayor today, Bill de Blasio, came out and just plainly said,

00:32:35.000 I'd like to say very bluntly, our mission is to redistribute wealth.

00:32:40.000 So it's very interesting seeing these Democrats kind of mimic the language and some of the behaviors of the communist Chinese. 0.87

00:32:46.000 But from your sources, from the people you talked to on the ground, what's really going on there?

00:32:51.000 Did they defeat the coronavirus?

00:32:53.000 Because we're seeing a lot of photos of them raving and partying and having these these huge the marathon street marathon yes how does like

00:32:59.000 how does how do you guys make sense of this story of this deadly pandemic

00:33:04.000 everywhere but China's having street parties and raves at the same time did their 0.78

00:33:10.000 lockdowns work like what's going on here well first of all I know you have some

00:33:15.000 specific things you want to say about that Shelly but like over the past couple

00:33:19.000 of months you keep seeing like certain cities in China declaring wartime

00:33:23.000 measures to fight the coronavirus because there's oh some rumor that maybe like

00:33:27.000 somebody got a case and then suddenly they need to test 70,000 people in a

00:33:32.000 city And they can do that in like three days because it's a horrible authoritarian regime. 0.84

00:33:36.000 But so you get the sense that it never did stop.

00:33:39.000 There is still something happening, the extent of which we can't know.

00:33:43.000 And I know you have some specific things you were talking about earlier.

00:33:46.000 Oh yeah, just the idea that, you know, well, I mean in terms of the numbers, there's no way to, like, you cannot, there's no way to even guess because it's not really going to be based in reality.

00:33:55.000 Like the GDP numbers.

00:33:57.000 The GDP numbers aren't real.

00:33:59.000 You know, there was, You know, China's been organ harvesting, forced organ harvesting from dissidents.

00:34:05.000 And, you know, it turns out that, like, some people did a study and found out that, like, the whole, since 2015, they've claimed that they only have organs coming from, you know, voluntary donations.

00:34:16.000 You know?

00:34:18.000 Sure.

00:34:18.000 I got a couple kidneys I don't need.

00:34:20.000 Yeah.

00:34:20.000 And then they basically, these researchers found out that their voluntary donation numbers and their transplant numbers were all fake.

00:34:26.000 They all mimicked a quadratic equation.

00:34:29.000 Perfectly.

00:34:31.000 Almost perfectly.

00:34:32.000 So are they actually harvesting organs?

00:34:34.000 From political prisoners.

00:34:36.000 Yes, they are doing.

00:34:37.000 Uyghurs, Falun Gong. 1.00

00:34:39.000 They're definitely doing organ transplants.

00:34:41.000 Their official numbers are fake.

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:43.000 Surprise surprise, isn't their real estate all fake too?

00:34:47.000 Uh, yeah.

00:34:49.000 Uh, yeah.

00:34:50.000 You know, I watched, uh, I was watching a video someone posted on Facebook.

00:34:53.000 I can't remember what it was, but maybe you guys know, where a guy was explaining that the warfare strategy of China is exploiting the weaknesses of a nation that they accept.

00:35:02.000 So if you allow free speech, then we'll support protests against you.

00:35:07.000 If racism is a very sensitive issue, then we'll inflame it and we'll just keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.

00:35:12.000 And that what we're seeing right now is actually the fifth generational war, full scale, with China. 0.96

00:35:19.000 They know that if they actually, you know, crashed some U-boats on the shores of California and ran in full speed, they might have a very large ground army, but the people would fight back and the Americans would win.

00:35:30.000 Air superiority, for one thing, plus all the aircraft carriers we got.

00:35:34.000 So what they're doing is subversion, manipulating our systems, stock market, buying land, control.

00:35:41.000 They're coming in, they're undermining all of our institutions.

00:35:44.000 It's working, and it's collapsing underneath us.

00:35:47.000 And I wonder, when we hear things like that from Bill de Blasio, These people, like, I look at the Chinese Communist Party.

00:35:54.000 I think they're very smart.

00:35:55.000 Very, very, very smart.

00:35:56.000 They understand why they had to have some kind of capitalistic system in their country to actually allow it to expand economically.

00:36:03.000 Because, you know, the things they were doing very early on kind of didn't work.

00:36:06.000 Like, didn't they kill all these birds at one point or something?

00:36:08.000 The sparrows.

00:36:10.000 Right.

00:36:10.000 That was like, didn't do anything, did it?

00:36:12.000 They had kids literally pulling grass out of the ground because grass was bourgeoisie.

00:36:17.000 So, like, clearly that stuff didn't work.

00:36:19.000 But now you have people like Bill de Blasio, who clearly is not a smart person, saying, we're gonna do this, you know, readership and wealth.

00:36:26.000 So it seems like they've bought and paid for as many elites as they can.

00:36:30.000 You've got the Thousand Talents Project program or whatever out of these universities where these people are essentially spies.

00:36:36.000 It's really amazing they're not getting charged with treason.

00:36:38.000 And then- The way they've...

00:36:40.000 I've never heard about what you're talking about and have no knowledge.

00:36:42.000 We could talk about it later if you want.

00:36:44.000 But is it a coincidence then that the universities are the epicenter for the most part of this

00:36:48.000 woke, broken theory?

00:36:52.000 Critical theory?

00:36:53.000 That makes no sense?

00:36:54.000 I've never heard about what you're talking about and have no knowledge.

00:36:56.000 None whatsoever?

00:36:57.000 Just no.

00:36:58.000 No.

00:37:00.000 So no!

00:37:01.000 No, no, never, never.

00:37:02.000 Never.

00:37:03.000 We're playing it safe, right Shelly?

00:37:04.000 Super safe, apparently.

00:37:06.000 Well, I think that in a way, like, the Chinese Communist Party is happy to see us destroy ourselves, but they don't really care if we follow communism as an ideology.

00:37:19.000 That's not really what they care about.

00:37:20.000 What they care about is having the U.S.

00:37:23.000 become weakened And so they can continue to, you know, oppress all these other countries and like, you know... Specifically their growing influence in Asia Pacific. 0.91

00:37:35.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:37:37.000 So the reason I bring this up is we had a story in the New York Times.

00:37:41.000 It was updated a couple of days ago, but it was from about a week or so ago, where a university professor said, we should not give the vaccine to the elderly because they tend to be more white.

00:37:52.000 and we need to level the playing field with minorities, which is one of the craziest things I've ever seen written

00:37:59.000 in the New York Times, where they outright said, 0.65

00:38:02.000 this professor believes older white people should die to balance the number of people. 0.95

00:38:06.000 Harvard professor? 0.99

00:38:07.000 No, no, no, University of Pennsylvania.

00:38:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:38:10.000 Oh, my alma mater.

00:38:12.000 At the same time, from the College Fix, we have a story about Cornell, which is mandating only the white students get the vaccine.

00:38:19.000 So the critical race theory stuff is completely...

00:38:24.000 Nonsensical.

00:38:25.000 It just makes literally no sense to be like, well, it's racist to give the vaccine to the, you know, to the white people.

00:38:31.000 So we're going to give it to the minorities, but at the same time, only the white people should be forced to get it.

00:38:35.000 It's like that theory makes no, like, none of that makes sense, right?

00:38:38.000 This ideology clearly has no, no end point, no goal, no success.

00:38:44.000 It's just chaos.

00:38:46.000 And so when you see this coming out of universities, you see things like the Thousand Talents program, I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but I think when you're talking about China trying to subvert this country, and they have a program in which they buy out university professors, and then you have many university professors who are espousing nonsensical ideas that will only destroy this country, I kind of feel like there's some lines to be connected there. 0.62

00:39:07.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:39:09.000 Thousand Talents is mostly about science and tech stuff because what they really want to do with that is steal U.S. 0.97

00:39:14.000 technology and bring it to China.

00:39:16.000 Literally.

00:39:17.000 Paying professors to bring their research.

00:39:20.000 Not to say that specifically they're using Thousand Talents to espouse this kind of weird, you know, far-left or critical race theory stuff.

00:39:26.000 Just that I think if they're willing to do that in universities, would they not be willing to push this other kind of ideology because it eats us alive from the inside?

00:39:35.000 I do think that the critical race theory is interesting in the sense that the Chinese Communist Party is, like what you said about the video, where they'll use our weaknesses against us, or they'll use our strengths against us and make them weaknesses. 0.85

00:39:47.000 So with the racism thing, that's one of the things that they've definitely been using.

00:39:51.000 Especially in Australia.

00:39:53.000 Well, in Australia, but also here too.

00:39:55.000 When people started blaming China for the coronavirus, that was definitely racist.

00:40:00.000 It's racist to talk about how it started in Wuhan. 0.87

00:40:03.000 Asians are white. 1.00

00:40:04.000 That's the new thing.

00:40:05.000 I was very happy to tell, Shelly.

00:40:07.000 Yeah, I was very disappointed to learn.

00:40:09.000 I was actually, I was really excited because it turns out that I'm double white.

00:40:12.000 So I get to be white twice.

00:40:15.000 So is that like, is that more power?

00:40:18.000 I don't know.

00:40:19.000 Super privilege!

00:40:21.000 Does that mean you are or aren't going to get the vaccine?

00:40:24.000 Well, for my allergies, I'm not.

00:40:28.000 Oh, I actually do have allergens.

00:40:30.000 Yeah, yeah, legit.

00:40:31.000 All right, back to our topic.

00:40:32.000 I think you guys were talking.

00:40:33.000 Hey, quiet down. 0.99

00:40:34.000 We're talking about something interesting.

00:40:35.000 Allergies, tell me more.

00:40:36.000 Yes.

00:40:37.000 I think you guys were talking about the larger divide and conquer agenda.

00:40:42.000 And it is interesting to see a lot of special interests from China do give a lot of money

00:40:47.000 to the universities.

00:40:48.000 And it is kind of exemplified, as we saw with, again, I'm going to bring this back to Mayor

00:40:52.000 Bill de Blasio, because his administration during the early onset of the coronavirus was saying,

00:40:58.000 it's fine.

00:40:59.000 Don't be racist.

00:41:00.000 Come out to the Chinese Day parade. 0.65

00:41:01.000 Everything's going to be fine. 0.84

00:41:03.000 Don't be racist!

00:41:04.000 And then next week, he's literally threatening martial law, where even Andrew Cuomo had to stop Bill de Blasio and said, wait, hold on there, you're pushing it too far. 0.99

00:41:13.000 If you're going farther than Andrew Cuomo wants you to go ... you know you're a lunatic and you absolutely lost it and he ... has been a part of this larger divide-and-conquer supporting ... Black Lives Matter protests openly calling for ... demonstrations meanwhile telling you you can't have ... dinner with your family because it's going to spread ... the coronavirus and kill everyone. 0.92

00:41:33.000 And this Black Lives Matter thing also, we have to admit here, is being exploited by the Chinese, as there have been many Chinese diplomats that have come out and said, the United States is racist. 0.95

00:41:45.000 We support Black Lives Matter. 0.61

00:41:47.000 There was even a police officer in Hong Kong that was screaming at American journalists there, Black Lives Matter, as he was beating the crap out of the dissidents in Hong Kong. 0.93

00:41:57.000 Hong Kong!

00:41:58.000 So we have to understand there is an element of this exploitation of our racial divide by the Chinese, whether it's being weaponized or just exploited, I think is something, a topic of debate that I think we should talk about.

00:42:13.000 It's their favorite thing to bring up and it's the racism because it's like that's the number one thing that they can like anything they can hit us with.

00:42:19.000 They know it hits a nerve.

00:42:20.000 Yeah, and it's it hits a nerve in the US and also like it's everything they do is whataboutism in a certain sense where like if you try to bring up human rights atrocities in China that the first thing they'll do is bring up racism or whatever.

00:42:34.000 Steve Kerr did this.

00:42:36.000 Remember the NBA guy?

00:42:37.000 He was like, I don't go around asking about our police brutality problems, you know, and we got issues we gotta deal with.

00:42:43.000 It's like, bro, you don't talk about police brutality, we can.

00:42:46.000 You want to talk about concentration camps, we have to.

00:42:48.000 Didn't that happen with, what's it, Mark Cuban?

00:42:51.000 Somebody?

00:42:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:42:53.000 That was also terrible because he was like, China is a customer.

00:42:57.000 Yeah.

00:42:57.000 But we should, I treat China as a customer.

00:43:00.000 But that's the problem.

00:43:00.000 But we should, you know, we should start in our own, like, clean up our own house.

00:43:04.000 Yeah.

00:43:05.000 That's a fundamental problem.

00:43:06.000 You need, they talk about China like it's our customer instead of, oh, the Chinese Communist Party has concentration camps and harvests the organs of people who have wrong political beliefs.

00:43:15.000 I think that's one thing.

00:43:17.000 Joe Biden came out with a statement during International Human Rights Day, which was the 10th, and what was disappointing was that he was like, yes, there are many human rights atrocities around the world, but then was like, we have to talk about systemic injustices here in America and whatever.

00:43:34.000 That's fair, but it's kind of like, it is very similar to Chinese propaganda in the sense that they're always talking about like, well, before you can talk about what's wrong in other countries, you have to clean.

00:43:47.000 If you're not perfect, you cannot talk about anything else.

00:43:51.000 Jordan Peterson says, clean your room, bucko.

00:43:53.000 You know?

00:43:54.000 You can't compare the two.

00:43:54.000 Are you saying Jordan Peterson's a communist?

00:43:56.000 Yes!

00:43:56.000 That's what I'm getting here.

00:43:57.000 I'm saying he's secretly subverting American... I'm kidding.

00:44:01.000 I mean, you can't compare the two.

00:44:02.000 It's not apples and oranges when you compare Black Lives Matter to the Uyghurs, especially when you look at the kind of xenophobia and the treatment of blacks in China.

00:44:11.000 And there was an amazing, incredible video that came out that was awe-stunning, showing what was happening with the Chinese government literally blaming black people for the coronavirus.

00:44:21.000 Inside of China, kicking them out of their own homes, kicking them out into the street, and then this is the country lecturing us about Black Lives Matter? 0.93

00:44:31.000 They made a commercial where there's a black man put into a washing machine.

00:44:36.000 And you guys, I'm sure you saw this.

00:44:38.000 And it created an outroar, an uproar in the U.S.

00:44:41.000 So for those that haven't seen the commercial, there's a Chinese woman and a black man.

00:44:45.000 She pushes the black man in the washing machine and he comes out Chinese. 1.00

00:44:48.000 And there was outrage in the U.S. 0.99

00:44:50.000 And China's response was, they're like, ah, you Americans, you baizua, you crazies, you're so sensitive, grow up. 0.96

00:44:57.000 They didn't care. 0.98

00:44:57.000 They also had Blackface. 0.98

00:44:59.000 Yeah, the CCTV.

00:45:00.000 You can go ahead.

00:45:02.000 Yeah, but every year they have this communist gala New Year's show.

00:45:06.000 And yeah, I think it was last year they had like somebody dressing up in blackface.

00:45:11.000 It was talking about China and Africa and how they're like helping all the African people and they had like an actress in blackface.

00:45:17.000 And as like So many of the experts from Africa we've talked to are saying, like, this is colonialism.

00:45:24.000 This is neocolonialism.

00:45:25.000 So I remember spending time in Africa doing reporting, and I was surprised how many Chinese nationals were at the airport, at the hotels.

00:45:33.000 And they're building a...

00:45:34.000 Chinese surveillance. Yes, most importantly I mean I was in Kenya and

00:45:38.000 Zimbabwe and Somalia. Even in Somalia I saw some Chinese nationals which is

00:45:43.000 pretty surprising to say the least. But talking to almost every African a lot of

00:45:48.000 them brought up to me the Chinese are here. 0.62

00:45:50.000 They're taking over.

00:45:51.000 They are the new colonizers.

00:45:53.000 This is crazy what's happening here.

00:45:55.000 And I was shocked to the level of how many Africans were talking to me about this, seriously. 1.00

00:46:00.000 Whether it was taxi drivers, whether it was waiters, whether it was random people that I walked into or was interviewing.

00:46:06.000 They're like, you should really take a look into China and how they're essentially taking over all of Africa. 0.99

00:46:11.000 and usurping all of our natural resources and buying off our politicians.

00:46:15.000 And it was surprising because I didn't know about it until I was in Africa and actually saw it on the ground there.

00:46:20.000 This actually goes to a point Tim was making earlier about how the Chinese Communist Party is a threat to democracy worldwide.

00:46:27.000 So there's the influence that the Communist Party is having in like the United States

00:46:30.000 and Australia, but on like using Africa as an example, what they'll do is they'll go 0.57

00:46:34.000 to dictators, horrible regimes, and say, hey, we'll give you money that the West isn't giving

00:46:39.000 you and we won't tie, you know, freedom of the press or any of those things to it.

00:46:43.000 We'll also give you Huawei technology to help you spy on and track down opposition leaders

00:46:49.000 so we will make you a more effective authoritarian leader.

00:46:52.000 And so this is how like every year like a Freedom House organization rates like the

00:47:01.000 progress of freedom and democracy in the world.

00:47:02.000 And, like, we've seen a backslide because of the influence of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:47:07.000 It's this, there's these two competing spheres of power.

00:47:11.000 And unfortunately, the authoritarian communist model of China is rapidly growing.

00:47:16.000 And if they ever take over Taiwan, that will be a disaster. 0.72

00:47:22.000 I think that'll happen under Joe Biden.

00:47:23.000 Do you think so?

00:47:25.000 Well, so then we should be talking about like Kirk Campbell and Jake Sullivan, like people who might be working for the Biden administration, some of the things they've said.

00:47:35.000 And it does seem... What are some examples?

00:47:37.000 And who are these people?

00:47:38.000 OK, so Jake Sullivan was the National Security Advisor to Vice President Biden.

00:47:44.000 Biden wants him as the National Security Advisor.

00:47:47.000 And he talked about how, like, he considers China's rise like one of his great successes.

00:47:53.000 He was working for that.

00:47:55.000 And he and Kirk Sullivan, Kirk Campbell, penned an editorial in Foreign Affairs where they

00:48:01.000 talk about, well, like keeping the status quo with Taiwan, for instance.

00:48:09.000 And China has promised to invade Taiwan.

00:48:11.000 Yeah.

00:48:12.000 They're doing beaching drills.

00:48:13.000 Yeah.

00:48:14.000 And they normally, like every year, there's like this message about peaceful reunification.

00:48:18.000 They removed peaceful this year.

00:48:20.000 Violent reunification.

00:48:21.000 So, you know, what happens when the status quo is changed by the Chinese Communist Party invading Taiwan?

00:48:25.000 What are they going to say about that?

00:48:27.000 Kirk Campbell, yeah, Kirk Campbell was also behind one of the biggest foreign policy failures of the U.S.

00:48:33.000 since like the fall of Saigon with the Scarborough Shoal incident in 2012.

00:48:36.000 What was that?

00:48:39.000 So the Scarborough Shoal, we actually went there.

00:48:42.000 We'll see if we can tell that story later.

00:48:45.000 It's like this, this reef kind of near the Philippines.

00:48:47.000 It's very important to local Filipino fishermen.

00:48:50.000 It's in the South China Sea.

00:48:51.000 And originally it was kind of a place where Filipino fishermen and Vietnamese fishermen, Chinese fishermen, they could all go and fish in the place.

00:48:58.000 It was claimed by several different countries, including the Philippines and China.

00:49:02.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 But then in 2012, China sends in its Coast Guard and basically occupies the shoal.

00:49:10.000 Kirk Campbell leads the U.S.

00:49:11.000 delegation to—because the Philippines are a treaty ally with the U.S.

00:49:16.000 We have a mutual defense pact with them, so this might trigger that, right?

00:49:20.000 Yeah, if they come to blows.

00:49:22.000 It looked like they were going to come to blows.

00:49:24.000 And so they work out this deal where, you know, the Chinese will leave and the Philippine side will leave and that'll be fine. 0.98

00:49:30.000 Well, the Philippine forces leave.

00:49:33.000 the Chinese forces stay. Yeah. And the US did nothing under Trump. No, this was under this

00:49:40.000 2012 under Obama. Oh, that's right. Wow. And this sent shockwaves throughout the Asia Pacific,

00:49:45.000 because suddenly this was like all of these other countries realizing if the US

00:49:50.000 will turn its back on a mutual defense ally, what's going to happen to us?

00:49:54.000 So Thailand began moving closer to the Chinese Communist Party, Philippines, South Korea.

00:50:01.000 We also lost South Korea when we were putting in the THAAD missile defense system, and China freaked out about that and began a huge economic warfare against South Korea.

00:50:13.000 No support from the U.S.

00:50:14.000 I was, we were both, Luke and I were in South Korea and there were people protesting the THAAD defense system.

00:50:21.000 Yeah.

00:50:21.000 I mean, it was controversial within South Korea.

00:50:23.000 That is true.

00:50:24.000 That is definitely true.

00:50:25.000 But so this was like devastating for the image of the U.S.

00:50:29.000 all throughout the- And that was Obama.

00:50:31.000 That was under Obama.

00:50:32.000 And specifically this agreement was negotiated by- For a guy who loved war.

00:50:37.000 You'd think he'd have done something.

00:50:38.000 I mean, supposedly, I mean, supposedly somebody said, we're not going to go to war over a bunch of rocks.

00:50:45.000 Was that Kirk Campbell?

00:50:46.000 I think it was him who said that.

00:50:47.000 That's insane.

00:50:48.000 But like the wider geopolitical effect it had.

00:50:52.000 It was disastrous for the U.S.

00:50:54.000 It was terrible, and it allowed China to basically have free reign within the South China Sea. 0.94

00:50:58.000 In general, I don't think they were prepared for that.

00:51:01.000 I think that totally rewrote their timeline of what they could do.

00:51:05.000 Because after that, that's when you see them really building up artificial islands and militarizing them.

00:51:10.000 These atolls, right?

00:51:11.000 These reefs and stuff.

00:51:12.000 And now they have missiles on them.

00:51:16.000 Yeah, and when the U.S.

00:51:17.000 says, hey, don't build those missiles, What do you think China's gonna do?

00:51:21.000 Do you remember recently when they did the Elephant March, I think it's called, in Guam?

00:51:26.000 Elephant March?

00:51:27.000 Yeah, so when the strike group from China went through that strait between Taiwan and what's it called?

00:51:33.000 Oh, the Taiwan Strait.

00:51:34.000 Taiwan Strait, I guess.

00:51:37.000 Trump had deployed bombers and heavy military forces to an airbase in Guam, and then they did I guess what's called like an elephant walk or something.

00:51:44.000 Where you see all of these war, you know, planes going, you know, around showing them, look what we got ready to go.

00:51:51.000 And then we retreated because the U.S.

00:51:53.000 military found out that China has weapons capable of wiping out the entire airbase before those planes can get off the ground.

00:51:59.000 So we were forced to pull back and retreat.

00:52:00.000 Well, that also reminds me of that the Chinese Navy has more ships than the U.S.

00:52:05.000 now, which are not necessarily the same equivalent in terms of Technical capability?

00:52:10.000 Yeah.

00:52:11.000 But the U.S.

00:52:12.000 military has been so focused on the sandbox.

00:52:15.000 Yeah.

00:52:15.000 And not on China.

00:52:17.000 Well, I'll tell you, not that it's a one-for-one comparison or a comparison at all, but I think most people who play strategy games know the power of a wave of small troops versus one powerful unit.

00:52:31.000 So we often hear from the U.S.

00:52:34.000 gun control advocates when they say, you think you're going to go to war against the American government?

00:52:39.000 They have cruise missiles!

00:52:42.000 And the typical response is, if you think, if that's what you think, you need to look up the history of Vietnam and Afghanistan.

00:52:49.000 A handful of people with weapons is going to outdo, you know, it's going to easily... I'll put it this way.

00:52:57.000 Fighter jets can't occupy street corners. 0.88

00:52:59.000 So there is something to be said for China having more ships, even if they're not nearly as capable.

00:53:05.000 Because, uh, you know, and, and correct me if I'm wrong.

00:53:07.000 I mean, I don't think you guys are experts on, you know, World War II in Russia, but I was reading about how Russia mass produced really low quality tanks that were getting blown up like crazy by the Nazis, but they just had so many!

00:53:19.000 Wave after wave of our own men!

00:53:20.000 That was kind of the AK strategy, right?

00:53:22.000 The what strategy?

00:53:23.000 The, the AK-47.

00:53:24.000 Just like a cheap, easy, like simple gun versus like the, um, what was the M6?

00:53:29.000 They like had all kinds of issues.

00:53:31.000 The AK-47, you could bury in the mud and still use it.

00:53:34.000 Make something that is cheap, but easy to produce and fast.

00:53:39.000 And then sure, the Nazis were able to blow up these Russian tanks, but they just kept sending wave after wave because they could just keep making them. 0.83

00:53:44.000 The Zack Brannigan strategy.

00:53:46.000 Exactly.

00:53:46.000 Wave after wave of our own men until they run out of bullets.

00:53:50.000 We have to understand when we look at China's strategy now, it's pretty brilliant.

00:53:55.000 I mean, historically, China hasn't been that strong because of its geopolitical location.

00:54:00.000 But if they're able to offset the fight on islands, especially along very important trade routes, they're implementing a similar policy like the Japanese did during World War II.

00:54:09.000 They don't want the fight in Tokyo.

00:54:11.000 They want the fight in the Pacific.

00:54:12.000 So this is the first beginning of this Chinese expansion, which they need, because essentially they're landlocked, and they're landlocked in not a strong position.

00:54:22.000 When you look at their natural resources, they're not doing that well.

00:54:25.000 As you said, they just imported a whole bunch of grain, because it's very hard for the Chinese government and the Chinese...

00:54:32.000 country to produce for itself this is why they're also trying to expand their territory in the himalayas against the troops in india so we're seeing if china really wants to dominate the world they're going to have to have a bunch of islands along these trade routes and if you look at world wars they always start along trade routes so this is very key and and one of the reasons why they're building so many of these uh strategic locations that they're expanding it so we have to Yes.

00:54:58.000 keep it close to the...

00:54:59.000 $5 trillion of shipping goes through the South China Sea.

00:55:02.000 Yes.

00:55:03.000 And so they need that seaport control.

00:55:06.000 That's why it's so important to them.

00:55:08.000 And the reason why they're putting the Uyghur Muslims in these camps is because they need 1.00

00:55:11.000 total social control.

00:55:13.000 People who adhere to a religion have a higher power.

00:55:16.000 They need to be the power.

00:55:18.000 Weren't they replacing religious images with Chairman Mao recently?

00:55:21.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

00:55:22.000 That's been going on for a while.

00:55:24.000 Well, also Mao.

00:55:25.000 Xi and Mao.

00:55:26.000 It's the same strategy they've actually been using all throughout the 70 years of the Chinese Communist Party's history.

00:55:31.000 Everything that's happening in Xinjiang now, to a lesser extent, they did to the Falun Gong practitioners before that.

00:55:38.000 And we were just talking to somebody from Southern Mongolia.

00:55:41.000 Which is Inner Mongolia.

00:55:43.000 Which is Inner Mongolia.

00:55:44.000 They did the same wave of genocide in Mongolia that people don't really hear about.

00:55:48.000 They did it in Tibet.

00:55:49.000 These are all the same things, just the same strategies, just being refined and refined.

00:55:54.000 And we just don't stop.

00:55:55.000 I'll tell you something crazy.

00:55:57.000 There was a period where, I'll just say someone that I know very well, was a YouTuber, and

00:56:05.000 they got an email one day from someone who asked them to upload a video to their YouTube

00:56:10.000 channel.

00:56:11.000 Not to run an ad, not to do a promo, just straight, hey, would you be willing to upload

00:56:15.000 a video to your channel in exchange for $200?

00:56:17.000 The video was some guy in New York talking about Falun Gong and how backwards it was,

00:56:23.000 But it was a really interesting bit of propaganda where the person wasn't saying Falun Gong is bad.

00:56:27.000 They were like, it's so strange that we allow this weird cult-like religion in our country.

00:56:32.000 Why would we do this?

00:56:34.000 You know, we have these people and they're dangerous and it's like a really... I said don't upload that.

00:56:40.000 Don't take the money.

00:56:40.000 But people did.

00:56:42.000 So so they found channels that were small to midsize, maybe 10, 20,000 subscribers or more, would just be like, wow, a couple hundred bucks, I need the money.

00:56:49.000 And they would upload this propaganda piece from China.

00:56:51.000 Wow.

00:56:52.000 Yeah.

00:56:52.000 It's it's amazing, like all the little pieces of propaganda that are able to filter into the Yeah.

00:56:58.000 Can you guys explain some of the larger propaganda efforts that are utilized in China?

00:57:02.000 I know there's a crackdown on religions, but I also have seen videos of people rebelling and fighting against the Chinese government as well.

00:57:11.000 Is there anything legitimately going on or is the propaganda so strong with the social credit score that there isn't any resistance at all?

00:57:19.000 Oh, okay.

00:57:21.000 Here's an interesting story that kind of ties into that.

00:57:25.000 It might seem tangential.

00:57:27.000 There was a story this past year of a Chinese student who was studying in the U.S.

00:57:34.000 He made a post to Twitter in the U.S.

00:57:37.000 comparing Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping to the villain from Biker Mice from Mars.

00:57:46.000 And then he goes back to China and is arrested for that.

00:57:50.000 So the first and biggest victims of the Chinese Communist Party's actions are always the Chinese people themselves. 0.64

00:57:58.000 Yeah.

00:58:00.000 Now I think you should tell the story about Chen Guangcheng, what he told me.

00:58:04.000 Oh yeah.

00:58:05.000 Chen Guangcheng is a blind Chinese human rights activist.

00:58:08.000 He's the daredevil.

00:58:09.000 He was a barefoot lawyer in China and he was arrested for basically trying to help women who had had forced abortions.

00:58:20.000 Because of the one-child policy, and he was just trying to help them get some kind of like legal redress.

00:58:25.000 China is anti-choice and anti-life.

00:58:27.000 Yeah, just both.

00:58:29.000 And then he was put in prison for years for, you know, traffic violations.

00:58:36.000 And then he was put under house arrest for many years too, but he managed to escape house arrest Wow.

00:58:41.000 and Make his way to Beijing. We had activists helping him and

00:58:47.000 he made made it to the US Embassy Wow Back in 2012 and the US ended up granting him asylum. Oh,

00:58:54.000 wow so we interviewed him last year and he was talking about

00:58:58.000 how you know It looks from the surface to a lot of people like the

00:59:03.000 Chinese people as a whole support the Chinese Communist Party

00:59:06.000 Especially because a lot of the Chinese nationals that you'll meet in places like the US. They're

00:59:11.000 rich.

00:59:12.000 And they're rich because their families have some connection to the party, or their families are party members, like they have some kind of wealth that's tied back to the Communist Party.

00:59:24.000 And all the young people have been kind of brainwashed to be very nationalistic, so they'll be very supportive of the Chinese Communist Party, but that's not the real case on the ground.

00:59:35.000 But you can't know that, because even on the internet, Chinese people are very careful about what they say, because they know that you're going to get sent to prison for saying the wrong thing on WeChat or whatever, so they won't say it online.

00:59:48.000 There are videos I've seen where somebody might be filming in China, and then they ask a question, the person will go under their breath and be like, I don't know, I can't talk about this.

00:59:57.000 Yeah.

00:59:57.000 So he was saying that there are so many people who are against the Chinese Communist Party, but it is hard, unless you have the connections inside China, to know that they're there.

01:00:07.000 I want to point something out real quick, too, because there's a stereotype about Chinese people being really bad drivers, right?

01:00:12.000 You've probably heard it.

01:00:13.000 Family Guy is a joke where, you know, just the other day we were watching Family Guy, and there's a Chinese woman, and she's like, how long do I need to signal to change eight lanes? 1.00

01:00:21.000 And then she just crashes the car or whatever. 1.00

01:00:23.000 But I was talking to this guy I know who spent a lot of his life in China and he said, what people don't realize, the Chinese who can make it to the United States tend to be wealthier than those who stay in China.

01:00:37.000 It's only possible.

01:00:38.000 And many of these people have their own drivers their whole lives in China.

01:00:41.000 They come here and They're not drivers.

01:00:44.000 They're the wealthier people.

01:00:45.000 So now they have to drive themselves.

01:00:46.000 And so it's a class issue of where you end up seeing these stereotypically bad drivers.

01:00:51.000 Not to say that it's legitimately true that, you know, every person is bad at driving, but he pointed out, you don't realize these are the wealthy people who are coming here.

01:00:59.000 And that's why that stereotype, you know, ends up coming about.

01:01:02.000 I mean, in China, people are notoriously bad drivers, but that's also because they've only been driving since, like, the early 2000s, really. 0.65

01:01:10.000 Oh, wow.

01:01:11.000 It wasn't long ago with bicycles.

01:01:13.000 Yeah, so most people had not been driving that long, so there's a lot of, like, you know, the kind of traffic adequate that, like, the kind of stuff that's not necessarily a law, but, like, people learn, like, You know you're gonna let people into the lane if they need to like merge or whatever that stuff doesn't exist.

01:01:29.000 Right.

01:01:29.000 Like that kind of culture because they haven't been driving that long.

01:01:31.000 It's pretty easy to just find like horrific videos of like Like someone crossing the street and then just like at a hundred miles an hour, boom, run over by you.

01:01:40.000 There's a lot of videos.

01:01:41.000 There's a huge emerging middle class in China, which is looking like it's going to be a problem for the larger government. 1.00

01:01:48.000 It's very interesting to see how they're going to address that problem.

01:01:51.000 But very interestingly, when you talked about the one child policy, I automatically thought about many American elites.

01:01:58.000 A lot of specialized high-level individuals like Ted Turner that are fans of the one-child policy and have complimented it before on the American stage as well.

01:02:07.000 So it is interesting to see the kind of ties to a lot of these individuals.

01:02:11.000 I actually talked to Ted Turner and I asked him.

01:02:14.000 If you believe in the one-child policy as much as you do and as much as you advocate for it, why do you have four children?

01:02:21.000 He didn't like that question.

01:02:22.000 Well, it rules for thee, but not for me.

01:02:24.000 Of course.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, that's how it is.

01:02:25.000 I mean, some animals are more equal than others.

01:02:29.000 Even the one-child policy, the one-child policy was a failure.

01:02:33.000 Absolutely.

01:02:35.000 And the Chinese government kind of knows it, but they can't say it.

01:02:39.000 Because they can't admit they made a mistake.

01:02:41.000 Yeah, so that's why there's now a two-child policy instead of a one-child policy, because they realized they screwed themselves with the population control.

01:02:48.000 And just to big picture for a moment, the Chinese Communist Party has concentration camps, harvests, organs, and for many years it was illegal to have a brother or a sister.

01:02:56.000 Wow.

01:02:56.000 In the rural area.

01:03:00.000 The thing with Chinese law or policy is that they have a decree from up top and then it's up to the local officials to implement it, and they do it very unevenly depending on where you are.

01:03:14.000 So if you're in like a wealthier area maybe you just have to pay a fine and you can afford it to have another kid.

01:03:20.000 In the rural areas like that's like the more disadvantaged you are like the more likely that it's gonna be like you get hauled into a van or a forced abortion or something like that because they have to make an example out of you and also the terrible thing was that a lot of these family planning policies like the one-child policy they were a way for local governments to make money So, if they couldn't find you, then they would make an example out of you.

01:03:45.000 And even, like, you know, in the 90s, a lot of people were starting to adopt Chinese girls, like, in the U.S.

01:03:53.000 and other places, so they were like, oh, well, girls aren't wanted, so, you know, we're gonna adopt them.

01:03:57.000 And now there's 30 million more men.

01:03:58.000 Right, so that's what I wanted to ask, right?

01:04:01.000 Did they create this imbalance where there's not enough women for the men, though? 0.67

01:04:04.000 They did, but also there was like something that weird that happened where there became a black market for Chinese baby girls to sell to be adopted in the US.

01:04:17.000 What?

01:04:17.000 Because like they would like, let's say you had a second child.

01:04:21.000 and it was a girl and you didn't want to give the kid up they could take the kid from you and put it in an orphanage and the local government could be like this baby was abandoned and then so you had cases of like families where like their kid was literally taken from them and then you know the adoptive parents like usually pay hundreds or maybe a couple thousand dollars to the local

01:04:40.000 government for the adoption so the local government is making money off of like

01:04:45.000 stealing kids and selling them to be adopted to the US. So cool. And sex trafficking is such a huge

01:04:50.000 issue like that I know the Trump administration sanctioned or not sanctioned but like called out China for

01:04:57.000 human trafficking but yeah that's that's a big way they're dealing with this

01:05:01.000 gender imbalance.

01:05:02.000 Yes.

01:05:03.000 Sex trapping came from Myanmar, from North Korea, you know, from like, yeah. 0.95

01:05:11.000 Our show, it's got lots of funny humor.

01:05:13.000 It's fun to watch.

01:05:15.000 Do you think a hot war is inevitable or possible in our lifetimes?

01:05:21.000 It depends on a lot of factors.

01:05:25.000 I think it would be more of a slow, the worst case scenario I think would be a slow choking death for the U.S.

01:05:34.000 The U.S.

01:05:35.000 doesn't do anything.

01:05:37.000 But it's not over yet at this point.

01:05:38.000 I don't know if I agree.

01:05:41.000 If they ever invade Taiwan, that will be the moment. 1.00

01:05:45.000 If the U.S.

01:05:45.000 lets that happen, that's probably horrible.

01:05:50.000 I think Joe Biden will.

01:05:51.000 I think you've already outlined the people he's surrounding himself with.

01:05:54.000 And I didn't even know about that.

01:05:55.000 Was it the Scarborough Shoal?

01:05:56.000 Yeah.

01:05:57.000 That's horrifying.

01:05:58.000 Biggest foreign policy failure since, like, the fall of Saigon.

01:06:01.000 And, like, hardly anyone knows about it.

01:06:03.000 And they and they scream, you know, Trump is the worst and Obama had no scandals.

01:06:08.000 And that's shocking because look, he wore a tan suit.

01:06:10.000 That's that's true.

01:06:11.000 See, see, I think, you know, one of the things that Luke and I talk about a lot, especially I think most people when it comes to the Obama administration and foreign policy is clearly the Middle East, Libya, Syria, for really good examples, the drone strikes in Yemen, things like that.

01:06:23.000 I didn't even know about that, that he essentially abandoned our allies in the in the South, in the South, in Southeast Asia.

01:06:30.000 I think they started to realize towards the end of Obama's second term that they had kind of screwed up in Asia. 0.65

01:06:34.000 There was the pivot to Asia.

01:06:36.000 But it was kind of, it ended up being more of a PR kind of thing than actually policy.

01:06:42.000 Look, I think, you know, we had the TPP.

01:06:44.000 It didn't include China, but, you know, these free trade agreements that the Obama administration was very much in favor of, the things Joe Biden has advocated for.

01:06:53.000 When I hear Tony Bobulinski, you know, he's the guy who basically blew the whistle on the Biden family, say they're compromised.

01:07:00.000 When I hear... Look, there's a lot of things we can call Hunter Biden for.

01:07:02.000 These equity deals, the $5 million forgivable interest-free loan.

01:07:06.000 But Joe Biden... That was a nice deal.

01:07:08.000 That was a great deal.

01:07:09.000 It was great.

01:07:10.000 They say, you know, Joe Biden wasn't involved in any capacity, but I gotta bring it up again, you know, he actually flew with government property, Air Force Two, his son, to China for these private equity deals.

01:07:20.000 It didn't go through, you know, but that's part of the connections.

01:07:23.000 It did go through.

01:07:26.000 The thing about that private equity deal is, like, the Hunter Biden lawyer came up with a denial, but if you read the denial, it's actually very cleverly worded, because a lot of people don't know how private equity deals work.

01:07:37.000 I didn't when I was reading about this Hunter Biden scandal at first, when it first came out a couple years ago.

01:07:42.000 So I thought, oh, well, what the lawyer said is correct.

01:07:46.000 Like he only put half a million dollars in or whatever.

01:07:49.000 And, but like the truth is that that money, like the private equity deal actually did go through

01:07:55.000 and it's involved in a really weird way with Chinese state-owned corporations

01:08:01.000 where it seems like why would these state-owned corporations

01:08:06.000 need this private equity firm made out of just Americans?

01:08:11.000 Because the banks are lending money to the state-owned corporations.

01:08:17.000 There's no reason for a Western private equity firm to come into this.

01:08:21.000 So we heard that viral video, and he said, you know, now that Biden is in, you know, Trump talked a lot about his son Hunter and how he built up this wealth.

01:08:31.000 And then he says, who do you think got him that?

01:08:34.000 And the audience laughs.

01:08:35.000 And he says, got it.

01:08:36.000 When you see things like that.

01:08:38.000 Okay, with the Air Force Two scenario, the private equity deal, I tell you, man, I believe Tony Bobulinski that Joe Biden's compromised.

01:08:46.000 And this creates a very, very nightmarish scenario for Americans when we're watching specific states, you know, I'll single out the Democrats on this one, that are essentially using the Constitution as toilet paper.

01:08:57.000 And then you have the real threat that China is, it looks like they're preparing a ground invasion of Taiwan.

01:09:05.000 Is that fair to say?

01:09:05.000 Is that too bold?

01:09:07.000 They're definitely preparing a ground invasion of Taiwan. 0.89

01:09:09.000 Yeah, it's hard to know how close they are to actually being able to pull that off.

01:09:13.000 It's difficult.

01:09:14.000 But it can only happen at like two different times of year.

01:09:17.000 It's very narrow.

01:09:18.000 Right.

01:09:18.000 Joe Biden's not going to defend them.

01:09:20.000 Well, so I think the at an absolute minimum with the Hunter Biden stuff at an absolute minimum, he had like he had a point secret service watching over him.

01:09:29.000 It's impossible that Joe Biden did not know something was happening.

01:09:38.000 It's too much of a stretch of the imagination.

01:09:40.000 Look, if you guys are even somewhat jokingly, but it seems very serious to say that Chinese authoritarian communists or Chinese communist authoritarians are invading this country, they're subverting it, And you've got these people coming in the Biden

01:09:53.000 administration who you say are proud of what's going on.

01:09:57.000 You know, Luke mentioning Henry Kissinger advising Obama's national security adviser. Is that who it was?

01:10:02.000 Then at what point do the American people have to rise up in the streets and do something about it?

01:10:07.000 When you buy those pitchforks.

01:10:09.000 So you're saying if I buy them right now, if you buy them, they won't come?

01:10:12.000 Yes.

01:10:13.000 If you buy it, they will come.

01:10:15.000 What time of year would the Chinese invade Taiwan?

01:10:18.000 It's like March, October, April.

01:10:20.000 Yeah.

01:10:22.000 Otherwise the weather, it's just impossible.

01:10:24.000 Yeah, as soon as Joe Biden won, the first thing I said, this is not a loss for just Donald Trump.

01:10:30.000 This is a loss for Taiwan, which essentially is being isolated, not just by China, but also larger institutions like the World Health Organization that don't even recognize it as an official country.

01:10:41.000 But another thing to really consider here is that also, you know, it's not too late.

01:10:45.000 It's not over because China also has their own problems.

01:10:48.000 When we look at their financial systems, it's just as fake and artificial as the United States.

01:10:55.000 When you look at their huge population of men, when you look at their natural resources, when you look at the problems that they have within their own empire, you see something that is not as strong as the United States right now, which is something important to highlight.

01:11:09.000 There is one thing I have to say about that.

01:11:12.000 We did this in terms of like, we gave China the money. 0.72

01:11:15.000 We gave the Chinese Communist Party the money to be able to build themselves up.

01:11:19.000 We built their surveillance system.

01:11:21.000 Yeah, we built the Great Wall.

01:11:22.000 Cisco built the Great Firewall for the Chinese Communist Party.

01:11:25.000 Amazing.

01:11:27.000 MIT researchers have given them DNA sequencers to like...

01:11:32.000 Places involved in organ harvesting.

01:11:33.000 Yeah, and the DNA sequencers are being used in Xinjiang to monitor the Uyghurs. 1.00

01:11:37.000 But I think the mistake we're making now is giving them more money.

01:11:43.000 The Di Dongshen thing that you talked about, most people have seen the 7-minute version or some of the clips where he talks about Biden and things like that, but the full 18-minute speech that he gives, most of it is actually about US-China decoupling.

01:11:57.000 Really?

01:11:57.000 And how, you know, he was like, the US-China should decouple.

01:12:02.000 But why are we inviting, you know, Wall Street to come in and buy our bonds?

01:12:07.000 Why are we inviting them to come, you know, establish their companies in China?

01:12:12.000 It's very smart.

01:12:13.000 And I'll tell you why we should do this.

01:12:15.000 It's because whenever we, you know, we go invest in Wall Street in America, like we use the US dollar, we're playing their game.

01:12:25.000 Because we have to use the U.S. 0.97

01:12:26.000 dollar, that's how they can sanction us. 0.99

01:12:28.000 That's how they can have a trade war with us.

01:12:30.000 What we should do is invite them in.

01:12:32.000 And then they're playing on our turf.

01:12:35.000 If they're investing in Chinese bonds and Chinese stock markets, Chinese companies, then we get to call the shots. 0.56

01:12:41.000 Wow.

01:12:42.000 That was his speech.

01:12:43.000 And I think one of the things is we don't listen when they tell us what they're going to do.

01:12:47.000 They've been very transparent.

01:12:48.000 But this is true of many communists, even here in the U.S.

01:12:53.000 They often will scream exactly what their plans are, and the American people kind of just roll over and ignore it.

01:12:59.000 Is this why BlackRock is getting involved in China now?

01:13:02.000 Yeah, I mean, they're being promised that like, you know, China, because BlackRock is thinking China has 1.3 billion people.

01:13:10.000 We get our mutual funds in there.

01:13:11.000 Yeah.

01:13:12.000 Our pensions, our bank accounts, our money, American money is in BlackRock.

01:13:15.000 It's one of the biggest asset management firms in the world.

01:13:19.000 We're talking about trillions of dollars.

01:13:21.000 And now they also are getting bailouts by the Federal Reserve,

01:13:23.000 but they're now working with the Chinese.

01:13:25.000 Americans are invested in ways they don't even know.

01:13:27.000 Yeah.

01:13:28.000 Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock, last year made a speech at like a big gala dinner for this US-China association.

01:13:37.000 And he was talking in front of Henry Kissinger, in front of the Chinese ambassador, about how great China was and, you know, it's so great that they've lifted so many people out of poverty.

01:13:48.000 You know praising them using like China prop Chinese propaganda stuff and then saying but like you know what there's still a lot of people who need help in China and you know BlackRock can you know we can go in and we can you know provide that type of support for You know the Chinese people and help them make more money using our services.

01:14:08.000 You know who else is really invest in BlackRock?

01:14:12.000 Comcast, which owns NBC, MSNBC, which also has not really been reporting much on the whole Eric Swalwell fang fang.

01:14:21.000 New York Times didn't even cover it.

01:14:23.000 Fang fang, is that how you say it?

01:14:24.000 I say fang fang. 1.00

01:14:25.000 Fang fang? 0.96

01:14:26.000 Technically, with my very good Chinese pronunciation, it would be fang fang.

01:14:29.000 Does this play into the global reset for you?

01:14:32.000 The great reset.

01:14:34.000 Great reset.

01:14:34.000 We actually have somebody on our team working for our other show, America Uncovered, working on an episode about Great reset, kind of looking at what they're saying.

01:14:43.000 It's actually weird how, well, I'm repeating what he has told me, but that in like the actual speech, it's very vague what they're talking about.

01:14:51.000 It's just like kind of ideas, but nothing specific, which is very... Resetting global capitalism.

01:14:56.000 Yeah.

01:14:57.000 But what does, what does that mean?

01:14:59.000 Redefining capitalism for fairness and of course equality.

01:15:03.000 What it means is giving money and power to massive multinational corporations.

01:15:07.000 That's what it means.

01:15:09.000 And then they can bring that money to China.

01:15:11.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:15:12.000 There's money to be made.

01:15:13.000 I got a question.

01:15:14.000 Is the gutter oil stuff true?

01:15:15.000 You know about gutter oil?

01:15:17.000 Oh, uh, yeah, that was definitely something that was happening inside of China.

01:15:20.000 Wow.

01:15:21.000 Do you want to, do you want to explain to people what the gutter oil thing was?

01:15:24.000 What was it?

01:15:24.000 It was people were... I think Vice did a documentary about it.

01:15:27.000 That's where I learned about it.

01:15:28.000 So they were basically taking used oil and kind of... From the sewer, right?

01:15:31.000 From the sewer.

01:15:32.000 And then straining it and reusing it.

01:15:35.000 Yeah.

01:15:36.000 As like cooking oil.

01:15:36.000 There were videos that I couldn't quite stomach.

01:15:39.000 Often we make the other member of our team, Matt, watch the things we don't want to watch.

01:15:45.000 We made him watch the Hunter Biden sex videos.

01:15:48.000 I think we scarred him for life. 0.87

01:15:50.000 I saw those.

01:15:51.000 I remember watching a video about this, gutter oil, and what was happening, people found essentially free.

01:15:58.000 So they would take, you know, scooping devices of some sort and go into the sewer lines and scoop out refuse and then strain the oil out of it, boil it, and then use it to cook food and sell street food and people get sick from it, guaranteed.

01:16:12.000 Cause it's, uh, my understanding is that it wasn't even necessarily food oil.

01:16:15.000 It was just oil.

01:16:16.000 So they might be using oil from, you know, spilled out of a car or something and it mixes in, they boil it down and they cook with it.

01:16:23.000 People eat it.

01:16:24.000 The Chinese Communist Party just like blew up any kind of rule of law within the country. 0.80

01:16:29.000 And so it just became really horribly corrupt.

01:16:33.000 I think the gutter oil thing, too, is one reason why Chinese people don't actually trust a lot of the food in China.

01:16:40.000 It's been regulated now, so I think it's not as big of a problem as it was a few years ago.

01:16:44.000 But I don't know if you know about the milk powder scandal that happened back in 2008.

01:16:49.000 These babies were having weird, deformed heads and stuff like that.

01:16:53.000 And it turned out that these farmers were putting melamine, like the plastic, melamine shavings, to make the protein levels look higher somehow like whatever test they were using for protein like melamine could fake the protein level so they were buying kind of like extra melamine shavings from factories and putting them in the milk and it was making babies really sick and killed a few of them kidney stones like problems and they first of all covered up this whole thing because it was happening right before the olympics so like they covered up this for as long as they could and then it kind of broke right after the olympics happened

01:17:28.000 And then Chinese people were like outraged.

01:17:31.000 They executed the head of China's food and drug administration.

01:17:34.000 Because someone had to take the fall.

01:17:36.000 It also created a lot of tension between mainland China and Hong Kong

01:17:39.000 because as Chinese people knew about this, they started going to Hong Kong en masse to get baby powder,

01:17:45.000 baby formula from there.

01:17:46.000 Same with Australia and New Zealand.

01:17:48.000 They started like Chinese people would go buy like Formula and stuff from Australian New Zealand in bulk so that you could not actually get it if you wanted it for your baby I remember being in Hong Kong and being like why are all these people walking around with suitcases? 1.00

01:18:03.000 And why is there no baby formula anywhere?

01:18:06.000 And why are they buying it up all the time and then that story broke and there was a huge controversy but I You see a lot of these kind of stories with fake meat, with fake fruit, fake vegetables.

01:18:17.000 What are some of the most shocking ones that haven't made the headlines in the United States that you guys picked up on that really raised your eyebrows to say, holy cow, this is crazy?

01:18:28.000 Well, the thing that comes to mind, it's not quite that, but I'm just thinking of covering up everything that's happening with the coronavirus.

01:18:35.000 Yeah.

01:18:35.000 Essentially happened with SARS.

01:18:38.000 It was the same thing.

01:18:41.000 Outbreak of the disease.

01:18:42.000 They tried to cover it up.

01:18:43.000 It spread around.

01:18:44.000 And actually, this is the main reason why Taiwan has done so well with the coronavirus is because they suffered really badly from SARS.

01:18:52.000 So they basically established a team that was permanently set to monitor the outbreaks of infectious disease within mainland China.

01:18:59.000 And so back in December, they were already raising warning flags about, hey, something's kind of spreading around.

01:19:05.000 Maybe we should be on guard.

01:19:07.000 Whereas the rest of the world, being very financially invested in China, did not have Was not paying any attention to that.

01:19:17.000 That's not quite as exciting as milk.

01:19:21.000 I got a photo.

01:19:23.000 I googled the photo of gutter oil.

01:19:26.000 This is crazy.

01:19:28.000 It's a woman and she's got a long stick with a big ladle. 1.00

01:19:34.000 And she's got a bucket. 1.00

01:19:35.000 She's pulling sewage. 1.00

01:19:37.000 She's lifted a sewer cap up.

01:19:40.000 And she is pulling sewage out. 1.00

01:19:42.000 And they were filtering it, boiling it, and serving it to people.

01:19:47.000 You know, I think back to the days of snake oil in the wild, wild west.

01:19:50.000 And you see, this is why I'm kind of a liberal and I'm, I'm okay with the regulation.

01:19:53.000 Cause I, you know, I know the story about the Cuyahoga river, the, you know, the fire burst in the river and we got to, you know, clean up our water, clean up our environment.

01:20:01.000 This is the kind of stuff that nightmares are made of when it's just unrepentant.

01:20:05.000 It's just corrupt.

01:20:06.000 It's just power by any means necessary.

01:20:08.000 Yeah.

01:20:09.000 Actually, that makes me think of, what was it, Upton Sinclair, the, the, was it The Jungle?

01:20:13.000 The Jungle, yeah.

01:20:13.000 Yeah.

01:20:14.000 Probably that picture does more than like anything we've talked about.

01:20:17.000 Like, just look at them.

01:20:19.000 Look at gutter oil from a human.

01:20:22.000 No, it hits you in your stomach.

01:20:24.000 Yeah, I, I, yeah, I remember it was, it's, it's, there's a video from Radio Free Asia, I think, going back to 2013 or so, where they show the process of making this.

01:20:34.000 And that, that's crazy to me.

01:20:36.000 Yeah, I mean, I think they've they realized that that was like a really bad PR thing for them.

01:20:41.000 But there's probably a bunch of things like that still going on to this day.

01:20:44.000 We just haven't learned about.

01:20:45.000 Well, there's the wet markets that the Chinese government said that they were getting rid of because it could have been potentially where the coronavirus came from.

01:20:52.000 And now the wet markets are back right now, which is another important aspect that people need to understand.

01:20:56.000 Yeah.

01:20:57.000 So well, so this is this is important.

01:20:58.000 Can you guys break down what the wet markets are?

01:21:00.000 I mean largely it's like just a normal kind of outdoor market.

01:21:06.000 They play a critical role in a lot of people's lives in China.

01:21:08.000 Because there's not like in terms of like the food supply chain a lot of people actually buy food from the wet markets.

01:21:13.000 Is it just it's like what like they have meats and foods out on like ice or whatever?

01:21:17.000 Yeah so like a lot of it is most most of it is just vegetables or like meat or whatever some of it is like living animals so you like in china a lot of poultry markets they're like live chickens or whatever and then you get a chicken they'll kill it for you um but then some of these wet markets have like weird exotic animal stuff like bats yeah or

01:21:38.000 pangolins or yeah like different I think because people were at first saying that

01:21:42.000 like the wet market of Wuhan didn't sell bats but maybe it went through to a

01:21:46.000 pangolin basically but like there and there was like a famously like a picture

01:21:51.000 going around of like a board from this wet market talking about like how you

01:21:55.000 could get like crocodile or like all these different like exotic animals but

01:22:00.000 like that's not like that's kind of like not most of what wet markets are

01:22:06.000 So wet markets are kind of necessary for their like For Chinese people to get food. 1.00

01:22:10.000 Yeah.

01:22:12.000 But like the kind of like exotic animals, like living exotic animals and stuff like that, that's where you, the poultry too, that's been a problem with like avian flu in the past.

01:22:22.000 So that's where you kind of get into the trouble where like weird diseases could come up.

01:22:27.000 Hey, wouldn't it have been nice if there was an independent investigation into the origin of the coronavirus?

01:22:31.000 Yeah, sure.

01:22:32.000 I was going to ask you guys, what do you think happened?

01:22:34.000 Because the official story, according to the communist government, is that this was the wet market.

01:22:39.000 There's some people speculating that this was because of the gain of function research that was happening at the Wuhan laboratory.

01:22:46.000 There's other people making up other theories.

01:22:48.000 What do you guys think happened specifically with China?

01:22:52.000 Well, specifically, leaked internal documents from the World Health Organization showed that they made a deal not to investigate the origin.

01:23:00.000 Wow.

01:23:02.000 The wet market was, like, they don't say it's the wet market anymore.

01:23:05.000 Like, actually, what they're trying to do is blame every other country they can.

01:23:09.000 Yeah, they're saying Australia, right?

01:23:11.000 It came from Australia.

01:23:13.000 It came from Italy.

01:23:15.000 Maybe it came from frozen food that was imported into China.

01:23:19.000 They're just trying to, they don't even say it's the wet market anymore.

01:23:23.000 I mean I think at first I thought well it's pretty likely it did come from a wet market because that's what's happened multiple times with bird flu and SARS was a similar situation.

01:23:34.000 but um you know it seems that there have been earlier um outbreaks than what was associated with the wet market outbreak so it's not really clear anymore they're covering up and this is the reason why they're going so hard against australia now well one of the reasons they're going against australia but they were asked they were demanding an international independent investigation makes sense and they hit australia hard I was reading about the Spanish flu, the 1918 flu pandemic.

01:24:01.000 Please don't call it the Spanish flu.

01:24:02.000 It's, you know, diseases happen everywhere.

01:24:04.000 You're right.

01:24:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:24:06.000 Well, interestingly, there's several theories about where it actually came from.

01:24:10.000 And so the two leading theories that it actually wasn't Spain, it was, it came, there was World War I, basically, and you had A lot of people were in the trenches.

01:24:20.000 They were dirty. 0.87

01:24:21.000 They were sick. 0.98

01:24:21.000 They were injured. 0.98

01:24:22.000 So when they came back to the U.S., they were bringing it with them.

01:24:24.000 And it actually started to mutate and expand and get really, really worse, a whole lot worse in the U.S.

01:24:30.000 But some have said it came from China.

01:24:33.000 And the evidence for that, they say, is that China did not experience, they did not get hit hard by the flu pandemic.

01:24:40.000 And the reason I think is that it originated in China.

01:24:43.000 as a weaker strain.

01:24:45.000 The Chinese people gained a herd immunity to it. 0.93

01:24:48.000 It made its way to, you know, through Europe to the U.S., and by the time the mutated strain had come back to Europe, they already had herd immunity to that similar strain, so they were less impacted by it.

01:24:57.000 Oh, interesting.

01:24:58.000 It's interesting to even, you know, go back a hundred years. 0.68

01:25:00.000 Now, there are academics who are saying, you know, and especially Chinese academics saying, that's not true, you're lying, you know, it was you, you're dirty, and things like that.

01:25:07.000 I had a moment where I was like, 100 years ago wasn't 1918.

01:25:11.000 And it was so old.

01:25:14.000 But just to bring something up.

01:25:15.000 Were you 80?

01:25:18.000 Yeah, just China back then was also an entirely different place for people.

01:25:22.000 That was before the Communist Revolution, right?

01:25:24.000 Yeah, and I think an issue people sometimes have is like they conflate all of China's 5,000 years of history to what the Communist Party is doing now, which is grossly inaccurate.

01:25:35.000 The Chinese Communist Party is, you know, communism is a Western ideology that came to China And basically it's the Dark Ages.

01:25:44.000 Didn't something happen where they melted down all of their like plow shares?

01:25:49.000 The Great Leap Forward.

01:25:51.000 That's where they did that.

01:25:51.000 What was that all about?

01:25:52.000 Why did they do that?

01:25:53.000 Well so Mao wanted to increase steel production and so there was this insane thing where just everyone like everywhere like in hospitals and schools they were all melting down metal to make steel and it was Not, like, steel you could use.

01:26:08.000 It was bad, yeah.

01:26:09.000 It was called, what was it, pig steel?

01:26:10.000 Pig iron? 0.85

01:26:10.000 Pig iron, that's it. 0.85

01:26:11.000 Pig iron. 0.98

01:26:12.000 Yeah, and, like, it was completely useless.

01:26:14.000 You can't make a walk into, like, steel beams that you can use for anything.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, and because it was, like, this, you know, top-down, state-mandated thing, farmers, like, had to keep up production, and so they, like, there were issues of them just, like, using their farm tools, and then famine.

01:26:31.000 And they all starved to death.

01:26:32.000 There was many reasons the famine happened, from the sparrow campaign where they killed all the sparrows because the sparrows ate the seeds and so you gotta kill all the sparrows, but the sparrows also ate the locusts.

01:26:44.000 The culture revolution was when they started purging all of the traditional... Yeah, that came after.

01:26:49.000 Yeah, yeah, so can you explain the culture revolution?

01:26:53.000 Mao basically felt that he was losing control of the party politically.

01:26:58.000 So he announced that the party had kind of lost its way, that the party was becoming too bourgeois, so they needed a cultural revolution within the Communist Party to kind of purge the party of counter-revolutionary elements.

01:27:14.000 And he gave power to the Red Guards, which hadn't existed before.

01:27:18.000 They're kind of these groups of, like, young people who were, you know, basically worship Mao.

01:27:22.000 So he basically used the Red Guards to, um, so he could take power from the people that he felt in the political system who were trying to, like, take... He was also very paranoid.

01:27:35.000 So he felt that they were trying to take power from him so he used the Red Guards to basically cause chaos in society and like there are different factions of Red Guards and they would fight each other in the streets.

01:27:46.000 You know like the whole Chinese society ground to a halt essentially.

01:27:51.000 It's kind of hard to like talk like for anyone who didn't live through the Cultural Revolution to kind of like get the real flavor of it.

01:27:57.000 I've heard described from Chinese people who lived through it that it's like we went crazy for 10 years.

01:28:02.000 Yeah I mean it was really much worse in the beginning and then towards the end it kind of started to peter out a little bit more.

01:28:07.000 My parents were both alive during the cultural revolution and they would talk about it but like they wouldn't really talk about like all the bad things that happened for a long time and then they started when I was like a teenager actually talking about like my mom said she watched The students in her, she was in elementary school.

01:28:25.000 She watched other students tie her teacher up and beat her. 0.95

01:28:30.000 What?

01:28:30.000 Because like, you know, any authority figures were considered like, you know, possible counter revolutionaries or there were different phases of it where like, you could be a rightist or you could be a counter revolutionary.

01:28:41.000 You could be like, like you could be like, there could be a lot of things that like, you know, you know, you could be a, like if you were a fascist, you if you were you were like oh you you might be related to a landlord like if your family used to own land before the communist revolution then you were you know like you you were like a black force like they were all tied to the kmt at one point how many people died during this period and do you see any parallels with what's happening culturally in the united states i well i do think the cultural revolution

01:29:15.000 like Nazi Germany is a point in history that like we should all 0.57

01:29:19.000 learn something from because how a society gets to that point

01:29:23.000 It's it's it's something we all need to be on guard for because it was people killing

01:29:29.000 Yeah, are we are we on track to that point?

01:29:31.000 well, so for example like one of the like people would call like somebody a counter-revolutionary and

01:29:37.000 And, like, I think it was, nobody really knew what that meant.

01:29:40.000 It was just, like, that's the bad thing.

01:29:42.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:29:42.000 Like a fascist. 0.95

01:29:42.000 And, like, or, yeah, or, like, how some people use far-right. 0.95

01:29:45.000 What does that mean?

01:29:46.000 Or alt-right.

01:29:47.000 Alt-right.

01:29:47.000 You had people spying on each other.

01:29:50.000 You had, like, neighborhood committees that were set up specifically to watch whether anybody was getting out of line.

01:29:55.000 Parents had to be afraid of their children.

01:29:57.000 Yeah, you had children who, like, children were taught in schools to, like, spy on their parents to see if they were a counter-revolutionary.

01:30:04.000 And, you know, you had people who actually denounced their parents to the Red Guards, and the Red Guards killed their parents.

01:30:10.000 And they thought that they were doing the right thing.

01:30:12.000 That's creepy stuff.

01:30:13.000 Well, we all know about, you know, Germany during World War II, but when you look at the lives lost then, and when you compare it to the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the leap forward, it's insignificant.

01:30:26.000 What are the estimates?

01:30:28.000 What are the numbers?

01:30:28.000 Because I know there's a lot of debate specifically going around how many people passed away during this period of time.

01:30:34.000 What do you think it is?

01:30:35.000 Well, it depends on who you listen to.

01:30:37.000 For example, according to the Chinese Communist Party, the Great Leap Forward, there was no great famine.

01:30:42.000 There was a couple years of bad weather.

01:30:44.000 No, it was called the, you know, it was like three years of natural disasters.

01:30:49.000 So it was like, it wasn't Mao's fault.

01:30:52.000 You know, it wasn't the party's fault.

01:30:53.000 It was totally a man-made disaster.

01:30:55.000 But like, if you listen, it's like, you know, years of natural disasters, like it wasn't our fault.

01:31:00.000 Um, the Cultural Revolution, they don't want to talk about even now.

01:31:06.000 Um, right after Mao died, they admitted that he was 30% wrong, but 70% right.

01:31:13.000 And then they blamed it on his wife and the Gang of Four.

01:31:17.000 So they basically found other scapegoats that they could use so that they could still use Mao as like the great helmsman.

01:31:22.000 And that gives you an idea of how bad the Cultural Revolution was.

01:31:25.000 The party does not admit any wrongdoing.

01:31:27.000 Wow.

01:31:28.000 And it was so bad that they were like, okay, maybe Mao was not 100% on the ball with that.

01:31:34.000 But it was his wife, mostly.

01:31:36.000 So I have a friend, I mentioned, I have a friend in Ukraine, and she was telling me how when I was at her apartment, it's like these old Soviet communist block buildings, that neighbors who would have disputes, the easy way to resolve a dispute was they would just call the police and say, my neighbor is bad-mouthing the party.

01:31:55.000 And then the next day the apartment would be empty and the person would be gone.

01:31:58.000 Off to the gulags to go break rocks.

01:31:59.000 I know a story kind of similar from somebody I spoke to who lived this in China.

01:32:04.000 Again, top-down government regulations.

01:32:07.000 Mao said there was a specific percentage of the population in each area that would be counter-revolutionaries.

01:32:14.000 And it would need to be purged so there would be meetings where like the local people like the they have to decide

01:32:19.000 who is Who is burning the witch?

01:32:21.000 Basically, and what it was is like it would they would just wait until like the first person had to leave to go use the

01:32:27.000 restroom And that was that was him

01:32:31.000 My grandfather actually got arrested in China, not during the Cultural Revolution.

01:32:36.000 You have to understand that the Cultural Revolution was the biggest and worst of these political campaigns, but they never stopped. 0.84

01:32:41.000 Organ harvesting had fallen gone.

01:32:44.000 Since the Chinese Communist Party came to power in 1949, in the 50s there was the anti-rightist movement, there was the They failed.

01:32:50.000 100 Flowers campaign where Mao was basically like, I'm gonna let 100 Flowers bloom.

01:32:54.000 Please come criticize the party so we know how to do better.

01:32:57.000 And then they basically rounded up and imprisoned and killed all the people who criticized the party.

01:33:02.000 You know, so then you had the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution.

01:33:06.000 There was a test.

01:33:07.000 Yeah, in the 80s.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, they did.

01:33:09.000 In the 80s there were things like, my grandfather was arrested during one called

01:33:13.000 the Anti-Spiritual Pollution Campaign, which was like, too many Western elements 1.00

01:33:19.000 We need to like purge spiritual things.

01:33:22.000 You know what I would do?

01:33:23.000 I'd be like, I have a criticism.

01:33:26.000 The Chinese Communist Party is too good.

01:33:27.000 It's just too good.

01:33:29.000 That wouldn't work.

01:33:30.000 It's too good.

01:33:30.000 In the Cultural Revolution, that's a good criticism.

01:33:33.000 There was this movement where I forget which country was, but somebody gifted Mao mangoes.

01:33:37.000 It was, um, Pakistan. 0.67

01:33:40.000 Okay, Pakistan. 0.85

01:33:40.000 And mangoes were like totally unheard of in China at this time. 0.85

01:33:43.000 And so then there became this cult of people worshipping Mao's mangoes.

01:33:49.000 No, I remember this because what happened was, oh I don't remember this, my father remembered this.

01:33:53.000 He told me this story many times.

01:33:54.000 Oh, he remembered it?

01:33:55.000 Yeah, he remembered it because the Prime Minister of Pakistan gave Mao this, like, mangoes.

01:34:01.000 Mao gave them to the people.

01:34:03.000 Like, he went to like a particular factory and were like, the workers in this factory should get the mangoes.

01:34:07.000 And the workers in the factory were like, Mal gave us these mangoes.

01:34:09.000 We cannot eat them.

01:34:10.000 Let them become symbols of his love for the people.

01:34:15.000 So then they literally paraded the mangoes around the country.

01:34:19.000 There are propaganda photos where it's like the mass of people and somebody holding up a plate of mangoes.

01:34:24.000 There is literally a propaganda movie where they're marching down the street with mangoes.

01:34:30.000 It was a huge parade of people.

01:34:31.000 And then like mangoes.

01:34:33.000 Take a look at this, the cult of mangoes.

01:34:35.000 Look at this, there's paintings of someone holding up mangoes.

01:34:38.000 And there's little trophies.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, and they would make these.

01:34:41.000 They made these like fake mangoes.

01:34:43.000 Mao's miraculous mangoes.

01:34:45.000 Oh, that's our episode.

01:34:46.000 Yeah.

01:34:47.000 Yeah.

01:34:48.000 So they made these fake mangoes that they then like brought around to all the different places in China

01:34:53.000 were like look at look upon mouths mangoes And my dad went when they came to his village to, like, see the mango.

01:34:59.000 And he remembered, like, everybody was so excited to see the mango that came from Mao.

01:35:05.000 And then later he realized it was a plastic mango.

01:35:08.000 Because obviously the mangoes wouldn't have, like, lasted that long.

01:35:11.000 But at the time, everybody really believed that this was one of the mangoes, like, from Mao personally.

01:35:18.000 And in that episode, we talk about a story of where like one guy who was like, oh, it looks like a sweet potato.

01:35:24.000 They executed him.

01:35:27.000 Well, let's be honest. 0.99

01:35:28.000 If there's one thing that communists are good at, it's sending people to jail and killing them. 0.99

01:35:33.000 So at least they're good at that. 1.00

01:35:34.000 They're really good at killing people. 0.99

01:35:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:36.000 Great.

01:35:36.000 A hundred million or more.

01:35:38.000 Well, it's interesting.

01:35:39.000 We were talking to somebody about, you know, oftentimes people will say, oh, well, you know, they're, they're great technocrats.

01:35:45.000 there in China and and that's actually like a horrible thing to it's what it is is like they have these soulless solutions to problems like if you have too many Falun Gong people you need some organs simple tech crack solution take their organ sell it it's become huge business There you go. 0.99

01:36:08.000 And then I think the thing with us admiring the technocratic ability of China, like when you see in the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times, they're talking about like, you know, China's technocrats that build these like huge skyscrapers and these like high speed rail.

01:36:21.000 Which are not just GDP scans.

01:36:22.000 You know, or high speed rail, which they stole from Japan, like all this kind of stuff.

01:36:26.000 And like, we admire that, in a way, and like, we're like, being this way technocratic is good.

01:36:32.000 And then we don't, it's like taking the morality out of it because if you don't talk about, you can't say genocide.

01:36:39.000 If you talk about genocide, then you have to kind of grapple with what is actually happening in China.

01:36:45.000 Oh, maybe we shouldn't be doing business there.

01:36:47.000 Well, another aspect that kind of really worries me with the technocracy is the development

01:36:51.000 of artificial intelligence, which we know China is rapidly working on with some

01:36:57.000 of the biggest corporations in the world.

01:36:59.000 How do you see this kind of race, which Vladimir Putin has kind of described as building the next nuclear weapon, which he described artificial intelligence as, specifically in relation to China?

01:37:11.000 Well, it's not just AI.

01:37:12.000 There is this bigger problem of China. 0.99

01:37:15.000 The Chinese Communist Party obviously has No moral regulations on things.

01:37:20.000 So they're able to invite scientists from around the world to come to China and do, we spoke to a geneticist about this, they can do any, this is getting into Alex Jones territory now.

01:37:32.000 Congratulations for not being banned for having him on twice.

01:37:35.000 Thank you.

01:37:36.000 But yeah, they offer scientists and businesses from around the world just unlimited sums of money to do whatever.

01:37:42.000 And because there are no privacy laws in China, These big tech companies can have access to data that would be illegal in like the United States.

01:37:53.000 You know, the best organ transplant breakthroughs in the past decade have come from China.

01:37:57.000 Wow.

01:37:58.000 Oh.

01:37:59.000 But because people don't believe that the forced organ harvesting is happening there, even though there is copious amounts of evidence that this is happening.

01:38:06.000 For example, I remember this specifically, the Kunming Kidney Disease Center had a promise that if the first transplant

01:38:13.000 didn't work, they would keep doing them until it did work.

01:38:16.000 And wouldn't charge you. And if you know anything about transplant, it is impossible to have like a bunch of

01:38:22.000 kidneys lined up.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, there was a story that broke.

01:38:26.000 Yeah, there was a story that broke this summer where a Chinese woman who lived in Japan

01:38:32.000 Had to go back to China for this is a heartwarming story for a heart transplant 1.00

01:38:37.000 It took them three hearts before she got one that worked.

01:38:42.000 And like it was like it was it was actually like you know portrayed in Chinese state-run media as this great thing that like she was the you know the country cared about her so much the party cared about her so much that they brought her from Japan and they gave her hearts until it worked you know and they accidentally admitted that they had you know Or the bank of prisoners or whatever.

01:39:06.000 We, you know, at least I've laughed at some pretty dark things, but it's the sheer absurdity of how awful it is.

01:39:11.000 And it's just keeps happening.

01:39:14.000 It's been happening.

01:39:14.000 I mean, how the, the, the, the, the, the insane stories that we have go back.

01:39:19.000 What to what, when, when did this all start happening in China?

01:39:21.000 Which specifically are you talking?

01:39:23.000 Just like the Communist Party.

01:39:26.000 Oh, the Communist Party was doing insane things even before it successfully conquered China.

01:39:31.000 We have stories going back, you know, how many years is it now?

01:39:34.000 Is it 80?

01:39:34.000 It's a hundred years since the party, really.

01:39:38.000 Yeah.

01:39:38.000 A hundred years of the most psychotic things you've ever heard.

01:39:42.000 And it's only getting worse, it seems.

01:39:44.000 With new technology being given by the West.

01:39:47.000 Yeah.

01:39:48.000 And we sit here today and you know, how long have these concentration camps been going on?

01:39:55.000 At least since what, 2017?

01:39:56.000 Well, if you're talking specifically about the Uyghurs. 0.99

01:40:00.000 Probably since 2015, they really started to round people up.

01:40:03.000 Phalangong before that. 0.95

01:40:04.000 Phalangong in 1999.

01:40:05.000 Yeah.

01:40:07.000 And that was like black jails or just the prison systems, military hospitals.

01:40:11.000 We were supposed to, uh, you know, never let something like this ever happen again.

01:40:16.000 You know, the people of the world.

01:40:17.000 We've let it happen twice within the last 20 years.

01:40:21.000 And Disney's clapping for it.

01:40:25.000 And how many users does Disney Plus have?

01:40:27.000 Like a hundred something million or whatever?

01:40:29.000 And then the head guy's gonna become the ambassador to China.

01:40:31.000 I think he'd be a great ambassador.

01:40:34.000 But we're watching all of this happen.

01:40:36.000 We know it's happening.

01:40:37.000 And for some reason, it's just going to keep happening.

01:40:40.000 Well, the media has completely failed on the story of organ harvesting.

01:40:45.000 You only really started to see any reporting on organ harvesting in the past year after a group called the China Tribunal, which was led by a guy named Sir Geoffrey Nice, who oversaw the war crime trial of Slobodan Milosevic.

01:41:01.000 They spent like a year looking into it and ruled like this is definitely happening.

01:41:06.000 This is not a conspiracy.

01:41:08.000 This isn't something being made up.

01:41:10.000 And in this tribunal there was an interesting story where a former New York Times reporter, D.D.

01:41:17.000 Kirsten Tatlow, uh was in China she said she overheard officials talking about organ harvesting.

01:41:23.000 It was two doctors she was at like she was doing stories about organ harvesting but not related to the forced organ harvesting related to the idea that China was going to start using organ donors and which is a lie and then she said okay she was at a dinner with these two Chinese doctors and like they were talking about this like the fact that the Chinese um government had said they're no longer going to use prisoner organs And then one of the doctors said to the others, the other, we can't use prisoner organs.

01:41:50.000 And the other doctor said, no.

01:41:51.000 And then the other doctor was like, what about prisoners of conscience?

01:41:55.000 And the other doctor was like, no, can't use those anymore either.

01:41:58.000 And then she overheard, she heard them say this in front of her.

01:42:01.000 And then she went to her editors and was like, At the New York Times.

01:42:03.000 I would like to look into this forced organ harvesting thing because I think, you know, I overheard this conversation.

01:42:10.000 There's something weird with the numbers.

01:42:12.000 Like, I would like to look into the story.

01:42:14.000 And she was discouraged from looking into the story.

01:42:17.000 She was told, is there really anything new here?

01:42:20.000 Also, you know, the people who talk about organ harvesting are on the outer fringes of advocacy.

01:42:26.000 Yeah.

01:42:27.000 Like a nice way of saying that these are only like crackpot conspiracy theorists, people who believe in this.

01:42:32.000 And so she was discouraged from looking into this.

01:42:35.000 The New York Times still has not covered the tribunal as far as I've seen.

01:42:38.000 And then basically she also thinks that bringing this up was one of the reasons she didn't get a promotion later because her editors like were so upset about this.

01:42:48.000 It's how the game is played at these media companies.

01:42:50.000 Don't rock the boat.

01:42:51.000 We want to make money.

01:42:52.000 So look, especially right now in media, one of the stories we covered the other day is that CNN's president, Jeff Zucker, is probably going to quit.

01:43:00.000 I mean, he's thinking about it.

01:43:02.000 They say it's because he's having a bit of a fight with his boss, but come on, no Trump, no ratings.

01:43:07.000 They found a really, really easy path that was only somewhat controversial.

01:43:11.000 You're not going to make any of your advertisers angry.

01:43:14.000 You're not going to make any foreign countries angry.

01:43:17.000 You're not going to risk your circulation in certain places.

01:43:19.000 If you just rag on Trump 24-7, you'll make money.

01:43:22.000 Easiest path to cash.

01:43:24.000 No real journalism required.

01:43:26.000 And that's what we ended up with.

01:43:28.000 Well, so this is great.

01:43:29.000 If they collapse, that means people will only have Tim Kast and China Uncensored.

01:43:35.000 Well, I think what's going to happen, interestingly, these media companies were on the verge of death before Trump.

01:43:41.000 When Trump came in, it gave them something to do.

01:43:44.000 Now I think we're going to see some kind of rebalancing between mainstream narratives and independent media.

01:43:51.000 So what this means, I guess, ultimately, is that independent channels will have much more influence in the news cycle.

01:43:56.000 The New York Times has been doing really, really well.

01:43:59.000 CNN, MSNBC, and some of the networks are going to collapse.

01:44:02.000 And that means those airport news channels won't have that power.

01:44:06.000 So this could be a good thing.

01:44:07.000 So maybe it's not over entirely.

01:44:10.000 But I do think seeing, you know, I think the Democrats are going to take Georgia.

01:44:15.000 Trump's not on the ticket.

01:44:16.000 For the Senate, you mean.

01:44:17.000 For the Senate, right.

01:44:18.000 Without Donald Trump on the ticket, Trump supporters are not going to back Mitch McConnell and the Republicans.

01:44:24.000 The Republicans certainly will.

01:44:26.000 Trump supporters are telling Mitch, GTFO.

01:44:28.000 So if the Democrats end up taking everything and we have a president who is, in my opinion, you know, compromised by China, but at the very least we'll call him sympathetic based on the people you mentioned that he surrounds himself with.

01:44:38.000 I think China's, China's going to get carte blanche. 0.98

01:44:40.000 They're going to do what they want and U.S.

01:44:41.000 won't stand in their way.

01:44:42.000 If anything, U.S.

01:44:43.000 is going to help them.

01:44:44.000 The New York Times just put out a piece today about how to reset the relationship with China.

01:44:49.000 Yeah.

01:44:49.000 And it was full of, um, advice from people from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup and Huawei.

01:44:54.000 And Huawei.

01:44:55.000 Yeah.

01:44:55.000 You know, one of the things that sparked the Russiagate investigation was, uh, I could be wrong about this, but it was Michael Flynn.

01:45:01.000 I think he was talking to Sally Yates and he said he didn't think Russia was our greatest adversary.

01:45:05.000 He thought China was.

01:45:07.000 And that alarm bells, oh no, someone's bad mouthing China. 1.00

01:45:10.000 We, we, we must stop them because everyone knows it's actually Russia. 0.72

01:45:14.000 Yeah.

01:45:14.000 Biden has talked about how he views Russia as the bigger threat.

01:45:19.000 We have the biggest hack, I guess, in history.

01:45:22.000 And immediately, they knew it was Russia.

01:45:24.000 They're calling it a digital Pearl Harbor.

01:45:25.000 This is what the media is saying.

01:45:27.000 The cyber equivalent of Pearl Harbor just happened.

01:45:29.000 That's what they're saying.

01:45:30.000 And it was Russia who did it. 0.98

01:45:31.000 Now, we've seen no evidence.

01:45:33.000 We've seen nothing to indicate we've actually been hacked, other than they told us that's what happened.

01:45:37.000 And many people who held stock at SolarWinds, the company that was hacked, sold off a large portion of that stock just before the news broke, so perhaps something happened.

01:45:48.000 But now what?

01:45:49.000 We're going to be marching into a war with Russia?

01:45:51.000 Over what?

01:45:53.000 Natural gas?

01:45:54.000 I don't know.

01:45:55.000 Meanwhile, the actual threat is China.

01:45:59.000 And it's seemingly going to be ignored by this incoming administration.

01:46:02.000 I think the Trump administration is trying to do, especially the State Department, is trying to do as much as they can.

01:46:07.000 Like, that would be hard for the Biden administration to reverse.

01:46:12.000 One of the things about the AI thing that Luke was talking about is after the Trump administration started banning Chinese tech companies from getting US technology like

01:46:22.000 semiconductor technology the the chip technology It actually crippled Huawei and ZTE and a lot of these

01:46:29.000 Companies SMIC is one of the ones that they're putting on the Commerce Department blacklist today

01:46:35.000 And that's China's biggest chip manufacturer, but they don't have the technology

01:46:40.000 Like they cannot make the chips as advanced as the US chips are

01:46:44.000 So it actually has slowed them down a lot in terms of being able to develop these like supercomputers and things like that.

01:46:51.000 But on the other hand, we had U.S.

01:46:54.000 companies who were, before this, completely bringing their technology to these Chinese companies.

01:47:01.000 A few U.S.

01:47:02.000 companies got in trouble for providing technology that was powering this huge Chinese supercomputer center that was basically running 24-7 surveillance in Xinjiang.

01:47:15.000 Well, part of the problem is because they think they're doing business with civilian private companies in China.

01:47:21.000 But China has a specific civil-military fusion, they call it, where basically every company, private or whatever, has to help the Chinese Communist Party.

01:47:30.000 So there is no separation between the party and private individuals, private companies.

01:47:37.000 I think the distinctions between authoritarianism is mostly pointless.

01:47:40.000 When we say communist or fascist or Nazi or whatever, the real problem is always authoritarian because they function in much the same way.

01:47:46.000 We get into arguments over, but was their economic system based upon, you know, no, no, no, no.

01:47:51.000 That's pointless.

01:47:52.000 The party tells the industries what to do.

01:47:54.000 The party tells the people what to do.

01:47:56.000 It's authoritarianism.

01:47:57.000 Exactly.

01:47:57.000 And I think the real end risk is not necessarily that the Chinese Communist Party is going to completely take over the world or the United States.

01:48:05.000 As Luke was saying, the Communist Party is actually horribly corrupt.

01:48:07.000 It's built on a very shaky foundation.

01:48:10.000 I think what the biggest risk is, if we don't stand up now and get more in bed with the Chinese Communist Party, when it collapses, we'll be so tied to that. 0.68

01:48:21.000 That it will just have a ripple effect.

01:48:23.000 We saw what happened with the coronavirus, how there was just things we couldn't get.

01:48:27.000 Critical things.

01:48:28.000 Yeah.

01:48:29.000 And like Italy, one of the first countries to get it really badly outside China, has a lot of ties to China.

01:48:34.000 Economic ties and also factories with made in Italy labels that are specifically done through... She went there.

01:48:42.000 I went to some of those factories in a city called Prado, which is largely Chinese now.

01:48:47.000 And there are sweatshops in the back alleys.

01:48:49.000 Exactly, so the Chinese are literally importing slave factories to Italy so they could have made-in-Italy products stamped legally. 0.90

01:48:57.000 And this is one of the reasons why they said that the coronavirus spread so vastly and so fast in Italy.

01:49:04.000 It was because of this program of slave workers going back and forth. 0.97

01:49:08.000 And Italy was the first Western country to get involved in the Belt and Road Initiative, and so the government was very reluctant to criticize We didn't even talk about Belt and Road, which is a huge way that they're kind of taking over, too.

01:49:20.000 Yeah.

01:49:20.000 And this is also another example of what Di Dongsheng was saying.

01:49:24.000 Even this Belt and Road initiative, which is roughly an infrastructure investment around the world, it still operates in U.S.

01:49:30.000 dollars.

01:49:31.000 So that's a lot of power the United States still has.

01:49:34.000 But if everything is either U.N.

01:49:37.000 or whatever digital currency the Chinese Communist Party is trying to run out with, Then we're going to lose that power.

01:49:44.000 And then the U.S.

01:49:45.000 dollar is going to start losing a lot of value.

01:49:48.000 And then we start seeing a ripple effect where other countries start walking away from it.

01:49:52.000 Then we get hyperinflation as the U.S.

01:49:53.000 struggles to pay off its debts by printing money in quantitative easing type programs.

01:49:57.000 And then we start shuffling dollar bills into the gutter figuratively like we saw in Weimar, Germany.

01:50:02.000 And then the people who bought cryptocurrency and other hard goods will be safe to a certain degree.

01:50:08.000 Are you saying buy Bitcoin?

01:50:10.000 Not necessarily.

01:50:11.000 I think people are obsessed with it because, you know, it's useful, it's valuable, and it's scarce and can only become more scarce.

01:50:20.000 But I always tell people, if you think that we're coming to a point of hyperinflation where you're not gonna be able to buy anything, what makes you think anyone's gonna want your Bitcoin?

01:50:27.000 If I'm starving and dehydrated, I'm gonna be like, get away from me, and I'm gonna run towards the guy who's got a bottle of water.

01:50:33.000 So I always tell people, invest in things.

01:50:35.000 Here's what I was telling Ian earlier today.

01:50:39.000 Think about the most common thing you use throughout the day, and most people use, that is the hardest to produce.

01:50:48.000 Whatever that might be, I'm not entirely sure.

01:50:49.000 Perhaps antiseptics, that's kind of what we were thinking of.

01:50:51.000 Smooth jazz.

01:50:52.000 Smooth jazz, that's right.

01:50:53.000 You know, when the apocalypse happens, there's gonna be a hot demand for that smooth jazz.

01:50:56.000 Queen drinking water.

01:50:58.000 Perhaps, but you know, I think what is hard to produce, extremely important, and used on a day-to-day basis?

01:51:06.000 Antiseptics.

01:51:07.000 That's the first thing I thought of.

01:51:08.000 Uh, I don't, I don't know if anybody at the top of their head could tell you how to make alcohol.

01:51:13.000 Like actual, like pure ethanol to clean wounds, clean your hands.

01:51:17.000 And, and, uh, you could, you could stub your toe out in the woods and lose your foot, lose your leg or die from the shock.

01:51:21.000 This goes back to what we were talking about earlier, where people need to start investing in their communities.

01:51:25.000 Yeah.

01:51:25.000 The more sufficient, self-sufficient a community is, uh, that will be, that's huge.

01:51:32.000 Yep.

01:51:32.000 And we won't be as dependent on a hostile foreign regime.

01:51:36.000 Yeah.

01:51:37.000 That will use the power specifically to like, today, the news came out that Turkey is taking 20 million doses of vaccines from China.

01:51:46.000 And they also in the same, like the Chinese state we're meeting in the same announcement said that Turkey also said that they, you know, approve of China's counter revolution, like counter terrorism efforts, and that shouldn't be politicized.

01:51:58.000 And Turkey will not allow anybody within its borders to talk like, you know, upset Chinese sovereignty.

01:52:03.000 And what that means is, They're going after the Uyghurs, because Turkey has the largest population of Uyghur exiles in the world. 1.00

01:52:10.000 Uyghurs are a Turkic minority.

01:52:11.000 So, I heard a lot that our medications are made in China.

01:52:16.000 Is that true?

01:52:16.000 Like, the Chinese will manufacture, say, amoxicillin tablets.

01:52:19.000 Do we still use amoxicillin?

01:52:21.000 Tetracycline.

01:52:22.000 Do they make the tetracycline?

01:52:23.000 For a lot of the cheaper ones, yes.

01:52:26.000 For expensive pharmaceuticals or like more complicated pharmaceuticals, we actually mostly manufacture them in the US.

01:52:32.000 But a lot of the cheaper, like generic, like what you're talking about, antibiotics come from China, or a lot of times the raw ingredients for those come from China.

01:52:41.000 So, I think we still use tetracycline, right?

01:52:44.000 That's a common antibiotic.

01:52:46.000 I think so.

01:52:46.000 Let's talk about a generic medication that's very common.

01:52:49.000 When it's manufactured in China and brought here, does it go through a rigorous molecular analysis to make sure what's in that is actually what they claim it is?

01:52:57.000 Well, if there was a situation where they were actually exporting, like, Trash that was actually killing Americans?

01:53:03.000 That would be a huge issue.

01:53:05.000 But you look at the strategy of China, it's not to come in marching with weapons and shooting people down, it's to subvert. 0.86

01:53:11.000 So if they could put something that... Let's say there's an ingredient they could add in a very small dose.

01:53:16.000 Let's say we're producing these genetics that are used, you know, maybe by 100,000 people per day across the United... or 100,000 people per week across the United States.

01:53:25.000 We had an ingredient at a ratio of 0.5%, which will create a mortality in the U.S.

01:53:30.000 of 0.1%.

01:53:31.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:53:34.000 It's an attrition game.

01:53:35.000 They've talked about unrestricted warfare, which is basically war by other means.

01:53:39.000 You don't use troops.

01:53:40.000 Everything is kind of on the table.

01:53:42.000 This is what they were talking about.

01:53:44.000 Drug warfare is on the table.

01:53:45.000 Drug warfare is on the table.

01:53:47.000 So a lot of the drugs in the U.S. 0.76

01:53:48.000 are made in China and shipped here like hard, illicit drugs that kill people. 0.58

01:53:52.000 Where is all of the fentanyl and the opiate?

01:53:54.000 I think that's a huge thing.

01:53:55.000 And you know, they have total government surveillance, but they somehow don't know when factories are sending fentanyl to the U.S.

01:54:01.000 Well, technically to Mexico, which then brings it to the U.S.

01:54:05.000 There's connections to the Mexican drug cartels.

01:54:07.000 I wonder if, you know, if it's something that I can think about the top of my head, certainly the Chinese Communist Party has had meetings where they're like, Can we add something at a very small dose that would go unnoticed as medications that would create a mortality rate negligible but or unnoticeable but not negligible to us?

01:54:24.000 I think that would be hard for them to do.

01:54:26.000 I wouldn't say that they wouldn't try to do something like that, but the danger is In that being discovered and the backlash being so because like you look at what they've done with the they tried this whole mask Diplomacy thing a few months ago where they were like, oh we are going to send masks like, you know KN95s for the coronavirus to all these different countries around the world And tech and tests and they were you know, and there was a huge backlash.

01:54:53.000 So that was bad for them to have like the quality thing and So if it's like, oh my gosh, drugs from China are faulty, then that would be worse for them.

01:55:02.000 But what if nobody noticed?

01:55:04.000 Well, I think the point Shelley is making is that that's still a risk of being exposed versus like all the other ways that if they are very successful at subverting the United States, like just buy off Wall Street.

01:55:15.000 Or buy off the incoming president, you know? 0.87

01:55:18.000 Or go after his crackhead son. 0.94

01:55:24.000 They definitely target family members of politicians. 0.81

01:55:27.000 They'll target small-time mayors or state senators.

01:55:31.000 No one is small enough.

01:55:34.000 They'll try anybody. 0.86

01:55:36.000 Even the most insignificant politician you could think of could be sleeping with a Chinese spy. 0.73

01:55:41.000 Somebody who has no merit or value to the political system.

01:55:44.000 Maybe a congressman from California. 0.97

01:55:46.000 A dopey-looking one with blonde hair. 0.95

01:55:48.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:55:48.000 Who farted on camera once. 0.95

01:55:49.000 Yeah.

01:55:50.000 Hey, even a great man like Rudy Giuliani farted on camera.

01:55:54.000 Oh, that's true, yeah.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, he did.

01:55:56.000 And my, oh man, do you see when he blew his nose and then wiped his face?

01:56:00.000 Swalwell?

01:56:00.000 Or Giuliani?

01:56:01.000 Giuliani.

01:56:02.000 I didn't see that.

01:56:02.000 Yeah, the congressman we were talking about was Swalwell, who was banging the Chinese spy.

01:56:07.000 And, uh, yeah.

01:56:07.000 Allegedly.

01:56:08.000 Well, actually, I don't even know if that's allegedly.

01:56:11.000 Anymore.

01:56:12.000 Well, that wasn't in the Axios article.

01:56:13.000 I think it was like a later accusation.

01:56:17.000 He's not denying it, which is important to understand here.

01:56:19.000 But one thing that you brought up that I think is really worth considering is China's relationship with other countries.

01:56:25.000 You specifically brought up Turkey, but I really wanted to talk about Russia because there's many official and unofficial alliances that they have with Russia, which again, now Biden is kind of pointing as their main geopolitical foe to the United States.

01:56:38.000 But We also have to understand geopolitically on the world stage, Russia and China have always been together, especially when it comes to significant moves against the U.S.

01:56:47.000 dollar, and especially when it comes to countering American foreign policy like with Iran, Syria, Iraq.

01:56:54.000 They get involved and they work together against U.S.

01:56:58.000 interests together.

01:56:59.000 So how do you see this kind of working out if the United States pushes towards a bigger conflict with Russia?

01:57:06.000 How do you see China being involved in that?

01:57:08.000 Well, I think a year or two ago, Xi Jinping actually gave Putin a friendship medal.

01:57:13.000 You can look it up.

01:57:13.000 It's very nice.

01:57:14.000 Aw, was it like a heart?

01:57:15.000 And it was like half the heart?

01:57:16.000 It was like this big gold, like all these medals all the way down.

01:57:22.000 It was insane.

01:57:23.000 They do these weird things where like Xi will go to Russia and have like caviar, or Putin will come to China and they'll like have Putin make a dumpling.

01:57:32.000 And they, um, they, last time Xi Jinping went to Russia, they had, like, Xi Jinping's favorite ice cream.

01:57:37.000 Remember this?

01:57:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:39.000 Yeah, that, like, well, last time he'd come to Russia, he'd, like, said this ice cream was great.

01:57:42.000 So they had, like, buckets of this ice cream.

01:57:44.000 Which is why Trump gave Xi Jinping the best chocolate cake ever.

01:57:49.000 Remember that when he went to Mar-a-Lago?

01:57:50.000 It was the best cake.

01:57:52.000 But I think in terms of China and Russia, they will always stand together against the U.S.

01:57:56.000 Even if they do kind of hate each other.

01:57:58.000 They do kind of hate each other.

01:58:00.000 You know, that's the whole Nixon thing where he was like, well, they're split.

01:58:03.000 So, um, but like they will always stand like in the UN at any international body, they will unite to stand against the U.S.

01:58:11.000 But they're also doing a sharing of technology and sharing of, uh, their military with specific drills that they conduct together as they're, you know, working in cohesion many times as well, which I think is something significant that we should really also look out for as well.

01:58:25.000 I mean, but the Chinese military is also working with the Canadian military.

01:58:28.000 Yes, they are.

01:58:29.000 Yes.

01:58:29.000 Wow.

01:58:30.000 Justin Trudeau, the prime minister who said that he worshipped and admired the Chinese government for their efficiency to be able to turn the economy on the dime, is now officially training Chinese soldiers in Canada right now.

01:58:45.000 Well, that actually began in 2013 under the Conservative Party.

01:58:49.000 Wow.

01:58:50.000 What was the guy named?

01:58:51.000 Harper?

01:58:52.000 Stephen Harper.

01:58:53.000 It doesn't matter.

01:58:54.000 These political parties, I don't know much about Canada, but I'll tell you the Republicans and the Democrats.

01:58:58.000 Oh yeah, this was a sailing of Republicans and Democrats.

01:59:01.000 Bush messed it up.

01:59:02.000 Clinton really messed it up.

01:59:04.000 Bush, that's part two, messed it up.

01:59:06.000 Obama messed it up.

01:59:08.000 Trump kind of went nuts on it.

01:59:10.000 I don't know if Trump did good or did well. 0.99

01:59:17.000 China was like, we can't tell what this guy's doing, he's crazy. 1.00

01:59:20.000 Meanwhile, Trump was moving in random directions.

01:59:24.000 They can't tell what I'm doing, they can't have a cohesive strategy against me.

01:59:27.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

01:59:28.000 I don't know if Trump did well or if it's just in comparison to everything that came before.

01:59:32.000 It's like, wow, amazing.

01:59:34.000 Yeah, like when you're like, oh my God, the U.S.

01:59:36.000 State Department is actually talking about human rights abuses in China.

01:59:39.000 Should that be shocking?

01:59:40.000 Like, should that really be like, wow, I can't believe they're actually doing something about it?

01:59:44.000 I mean, we stormed beaches, you know, before.

01:59:47.000 The president of the United States can meet with Kim Jong-un, the insane dictator of North Korea, but he can't meet with the president of Taiwan. 0.55

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:56.000 That's geopolitics right now.

01:59:58.000 Well how about we go to Super Chats and see what the viewers have to say.

02:00:02.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

02:00:04.000 I see many people have noticed we have this cool fancy new graphic that says smash the like button and share this video.

02:00:09.000 Shelly and I have learned that we need to also encourage people to smash buttons.

02:00:13.000 Well, I think people genuinely aren't aware.

02:00:16.000 It's like a metric YouTube uses for recommendations.

02:00:19.000 It is important, yeah.

02:00:20.000 And sharing, also.

02:00:21.000 It really is a huge help.

02:00:22.000 That's why I think they've sort of tried backing away from the like button because there used to be these videos where people would be like, let's get 50 billion likes!

02:00:31.000 But they still do.

02:00:32.000 It does.

02:00:33.000 The more likes it gets, the more they'll share it in the immediate.

02:00:36.000 Which is important because of all the things that YouTube has openly said they're going to do that kind of hurt channels like your channel, like our channel.

02:00:43.000 So we got a great super chat here from Rudy C. Winslow.

02:00:46.000 He says, ACAB.

02:00:46.000 Are you guys familiar with ACAB?

02:00:48.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

02:00:49.000 Well, all communists are bad. 0.99

02:00:50.000 Oh. 0.98

02:00:51.000 Oh.

02:00:52.000 I didn't know.

02:00:53.000 I didn't know that was what it meant.

02:00:55.000 I see it everywhere.

02:00:55.000 What was the thing about communists?

02:00:57.000 Was it communist bandits that YouTube sent you?

02:00:59.000 Oh, that YouTube was briefly censoring.

02:01:00.000 Yeah.

02:01:01.000 Gongfei in Chinese.

02:01:02.000 But I didn't really know that term, communist bandit, right?

02:01:05.000 Yeah, but that's a really old, weird term.

02:01:07.000 But it's great.

02:01:08.000 I keep meaning to use it more.

02:01:11.000 So, uh, Eric Cecil says, my response to Andrew Yang's vaccination verification plan is that maybe we should start with requiring a driver's license when voting.

02:01:22.000 Eddie Johnson says, I'm so excited that you have China Uncensored, but where's Matt?

02:01:27.000 Oh, Matt, uh, Matt is hard at work.

02:01:29.000 We've left him, left him back writing scripts while we have fun here with you, Tim.

02:01:35.000 Oh, interesting.

02:01:35.000 Here's a good recommendation.

02:01:36.000 Man of Culture says, hey Tim, next time get America Uncovered on the show.

02:01:39.000 That would be great.

02:01:40.000 Hey, America Uncovered.

02:01:41.000 I've heard about that show and its handsome host.

02:01:43.000 Yes.

02:01:46.000 I, you know, completely unsolicited, but I recommend you subscribe.

02:01:48.000 The host who is absolutely not you, of course.

02:01:51.000 No, because I host China Uncensored.

02:01:53.000 That's right.

02:01:53.000 Yes, yes.

02:01:55.000 Chuck U. Farley says, Tim and Luke should do a tour with special guests like Jimmy Dorr, Jason Bermas, Esai Morales, et cetera.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, that'd be cool.

02:02:02.000 Jimmy, Jimmy Dorr is amazing.

02:02:03.000 Jimmy Dorr, he's got, he had a great rant about, uh, the transfer of wealth that's going on with COVID and stuff.

02:02:09.000 And he's a lefty guy, so he's very much for Medicare for all, but he's basically, he's pointing out the very important things that I think doesn't matter if you're left or right.

02:02:17.000 They're extracting wealth, sending it up to the elites, et cetera. 0.96

02:02:21.000 And I worked with Jason Burmiss before.

02:02:23.000 He's a great guy.

02:02:23.000 But what would we do?

02:02:25.000 We're going to go on tour and just argue with each other maybe?

02:02:27.000 You get a big class A camper.

02:02:29.000 We do our standard YouTube programming from the camper as we drive across the country and then do late night shows.

02:02:37.000 As we cancel each other out by screaming and being too loud.

02:02:39.000 Yes.

02:02:40.000 And then Saturday, Saturday or Sunday night, we do a special like, we're in Cleveland, we're doing a live show and we'll get a bit.

02:02:46.000 Well, you can't do that anymore because of COVID lockdown, so it wouldn't work.

02:02:49.000 We'll pull the camper up into a random park and tell everybody to come and we'll put the speakers on blast.

02:02:54.000 Ty Chapman says, Tim, ask about the Chinese India conflict.

02:02:57.000 India is dominating last I heard.

02:02:59.000 Oh.

02:03:00.000 Dominating that's that's kind of a stretch That's that's a big topic

02:03:07.000 So essentially what China is doing in India is the same as what it's done in South China Sea like salami slicing bit 0.83

02:03:13.000 by bit They'll like go a little bit further on a disputed border

02:03:16.000 build a base and then like if you start to fight back Take the territory. Yeah. Yeah, but India has been great

02:03:22.000 about now recently like banning a lot of Chinese apps You've seen India joining. 1.00

02:03:28.000 The Quad is the great new alliance that has been coming out, which is an alliance between India, the U.S., Japan, and Australia.

02:03:37.000 Interesting.

02:03:37.000 And this basically, it began, it was Japan's idea like in 2007, 2008, and it basically died because no one wanted to stand up to China.

02:03:45.000 In the past couple of years it's suddenly come back.

02:03:49.000 So, yeah, India is definitely on the front line with the fight for the Chinese Communist Party.

02:03:54.000 And they managed recently to take back some territory.

02:03:57.000 That's true.

02:03:58.000 But China has a thing called the String of Pearls, which is basically them making a Not naval bases around the Indian Ocean, just potential deep water ports.

02:04:11.000 Like in Pakistan. 1.00

02:04:13.000 India's good neighbor.

02:04:14.000 Or Sri Lanka.

02:04:17.000 Daniel Maxwell says, in the third world countries, China is doing exactly what the U.S.

02:04:22.000 was doing during the Cold War with the Soviet Union.

02:04:25.000 The major difference is they are also trying to buy influence in the United States and they are succeeding at it.

02:04:31.000 Zachary Pasquale says, Chris, what do you think is the biggest, most long-term repercussion for our country under a Biden administration in terms of our unofficial cold war with China?

02:04:41.000 Well, a lot of people are encouraging Biden to do a reset, a China reset.

02:04:45.000 If that happens, that's bad for, as Tim said, liberal democracy around the world.

02:04:50.000 I don't know if you want to add anything to that, shall I?

02:04:52.000 Well, basically, yeah, like not standing up to China, um, kind of letting them walk all over the US. 0.98

02:05:00.000 Like they can't succeed.

02:05:01.000 Yeah.

02:05:02.000 Like they, if they, if we don't do something about it, not just economically, but geopolitically, like if we kind of go back to like engagement and we'll, we don't want to, we don't want to make them mad.

02:05:14.000 That is like the number one thing.

02:05:15.000 You can't, you can't engage with a country with concentration camps and forced organ harvesting and where having a brother or sister was illegal.

02:05:22.000 Yes, correct.

02:05:23.000 Mitchel says, Chris and Shelly are great guests.

02:05:26.000 Their show led me to your show.

02:05:28.000 Everyone, keep up the good work.

02:05:28.000 Appreciate it.

02:05:30.000 Cliff Lee says, Chris, Shelly, I'm glad you finally made it on the show.

02:05:32.000 Thanks for all your hard work in Hong Kong last year.

02:05:35.000 Thank you.

02:05:35.000 It's great to be on the show.

02:05:37.000 I had friends, a good friend, Vince, pushed me to get on your show.

02:05:41.000 Oh, right on.

02:05:41.000 Cool.

02:05:42.000 I mean, we've been getting messages all the time recommending you guys saying you, because we always talk about China.

02:05:46.000 It comes up, you know, and I guess you guys are the experts.

02:05:50.000 I'm happy you guys are here.

02:05:51.000 I'm happy you're here.

02:05:53.000 Dak941 says, look forward to the show every night.

02:05:55.000 Thanks for all you do.

02:05:56.000 Two questions.

02:05:57.000 What happened to the sig?

02:05:59.000 Can someone come by to skate if properly vetted?

02:06:03.000 No need to be on the show, just want to skate.

02:06:05.000 The answer to number two is yes!

02:06:07.000 You can.

02:06:09.000 We have two skate parks, we are going to be doing a vlog, and we are going to be... I guess legitimately a private location, but we're gonna allow certain people to come hang out periodically.

02:06:20.000 It just depends.

02:06:22.000 Once we get the proprietary website up...

02:06:24.000 It's going to be over at TimCast.com.

02:06:25.000 We're getting pretty close to launching it.

02:06:27.000 Probably going to be like a membership thing.

02:06:29.000 So there's going to be like a platinum tier members and we'll only have maybe like 10 of those available.

02:06:34.000 And those are people who can like come in freely, you know, hang out at the park or whatever.

02:06:38.000 And it'll be like a vetted thing for sure.

02:06:40.000 As for the SIG, oh man, I don't think anybody asked about that.

02:06:45.000 Never got it.

02:06:47.000 With all due respect and appreciation to the Crowder team for trying to get me this SIG M400, which would have been awesome, it got sent to a location too far for me to actually go get it.

02:07:00.000 And I was in New Jersey, and considering the laws of New Jersey, it would have been... I would just call it impossible.

02:07:06.000 It would have required me to have cancelled a portion of my day to drive an hour and a half there and an hour and a half back, and then I would have to wait five days, then drive an hour and a half there and an hour and a half back.

02:07:19.000 And that was just completely impractical, so I never ended up getting it, unfortunately.

02:07:23.000 And, uh, that's... that's it.

02:07:24.000 No SIG.

02:07:25.000 So.

02:07:26.000 But they tried.

02:07:27.000 I have no idea what happened to it.

02:07:28.000 I wonder if it just got sent back or something.

02:07:30.000 So.

02:07:31.000 But hey, it is what it is.

02:07:32.000 Sometimes you can't cry over a free gun you didn't get.

02:07:34.000 All right, let's see.

02:07:36.000 Kylo says, is the CCP attacking Canada and the U.S.

02:07:40.000 simultaneously?

02:07:41.000 Is this what soft war looks like?

02:07:43.000 Oh yeah, Canada is getting hit hard, Australia is getting hit hard.

02:07:46.000 I would say it's worse in Canada and Australia than it is in the U.S.

02:07:49.000 That's true.

02:07:49.000 Because they're actually kind of afraid of the U.S.

02:07:53.000 That's why U.S.

02:07:54.000 is enemy number one.

02:07:56.000 So Australia and Canada they saw as like softer targets that are weaker.

02:08:00.000 Which is why they've kidnapped Canadian citizens. 0.93

02:08:02.000 Yeah, basically.

02:08:02.000 Really?

02:08:02.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.000 The two Michaels, Michael Kovard and Michael Spavor.

02:08:05.000 They've been in China for two years.

02:08:07.000 Yeah, basically after Canada arrested the CFO of Huawei because of violations on US sanctions on Iran, China in turn kidnapped two Canadian citizens.

02:08:17.000 They were in China.

02:08:18.000 They were in China.

02:08:19.000 But they've essentially been held without any real charges.

02:08:22.000 I think they've been charged now with spying.

02:08:26.000 They've been held for two years now and basically made it very clear to the Canadian government that if they release the CFO of Huawei, then these two Michaels get released.

02:08:34.000 Trudeau recently said he's hopeful the situation will be resolved.

02:08:38.000 Hayden says, it passed by a while back with little attention because of the news cycle speed, but Cocaine Mitch's wife, Elaine, is from a family that runs a shipping company where the ships are built in China with funding from the CCP and ship goods to China.

02:08:52.000 Elaine, Secretary of Transportation under Trump.

02:08:54.000 Yep.

02:08:54.000 I was talking about that and sharing the article right before, uh, the show began.

02:08:58.000 And even a couple of days ago when Mitch McConnell came up specifically blocking, uh, Trump and of course the election telling the senators not to challenge it.

02:09:06.000 We were in DC a couple years ago at a think tank event and somebody brought up Elaine Chao and her and everybody kind of laughed because everybody knew that her family had these close ties to the Chinese Communist Party, but also knew that Washington wasn't going to do anything about it.

02:09:24.000 Rita Ho says TSMC is a Taiwanese company and recorded number 1, 53.9%, in global semiconductor foundry market, while Samsung occupied only 17.4%.

02:09:36.000 How would this affect the 3C products worldwide when weak Biden let China take over Taiwan?

02:09:43.000 Everything's gonna become more expensive.

02:09:45.000 Taiwan right now is really trying to market itself as a place where high-quality, high-tech can be made.

02:09:56.000 They're hoping as people realize that you can't trust stuff from China. 0.99

02:10:00.000 I mean, TSMC had a problem last year where there were Chinese spies found in the company who were stealing the intellectual property and bringing it to China.

02:10:08.000 But the thing is that Taiwan and the U.S.

02:10:13.000 are both better at semiconductor chips than China, so if we can stop China from getting the technology, it'll slow them down a lot.

02:10:23.000 Chris Knoll says, on the subject of peaceful divorce, how would this affect global politics, and more specifically, dealing with China?

02:10:30.000 I think a split would only help China's ability to assert its will on the world. 0.97

02:10:33.000 What do you guys think?

02:10:35.000 Uh, yes, obviously.

02:10:36.000 If the U.S.

02:10:37.000 broke into two different countries, like, what are they called?

02:10:40.000 The United States of Canada and Jesusland? 0.85

02:10:41.000 Yes.

02:10:42.000 There would be no United States on the political stage at all.

02:10:45.000 Treaties probably wouldn't exist anymore, and there'd have to be all new negotiations with everyone, and who would even control military bases?

02:10:50.000 I don't even know.

02:10:52.000 Yeah.

02:10:53.000 I don't know if you guys have any thoughts or anything.

02:10:56.000 Well, just one thought.

02:10:58.000 You know, obviously the EU and the Brexit was, that's a big topic, but I think to an extent that was advantageous to the Chinese Communist Party that the weaker the EU gets, the less that is a power that can stand up to the Chinese Communist Party.

02:11:12.000 And they are infiltrating the EU in other ways, particularly through Greece, Eastern nations, but yeah.

02:11:18.000 Desperate ones.

02:11:19.000 Carl Schneider says, Tim, I live in Cali and we all got an emergency alert on our phones today telling us emergency alert severe.

02:11:27.000 All Bay Area counties now under stay-at-home order.

02:11:30.000 COVID-19 is spreading rapidly.

02:11:32.000 Well, there you go.

02:11:33.000 The good news is... The good news is, everybody, calm down, calm down.

02:11:36.000 We have a vaccine.

02:11:37.000 Okay.

02:11:38.000 Now, the vaccine doesn't actually prevent you from getting the virus, we're not sure.

02:11:43.000 I believe it was Dr. Vin Gupta said this on MSNBC.

02:11:46.000 You still can spread it to others, we think, and you can't travel, you still gotta wear a mask, and no, we're not gonna be releasing the lockdown.

02:11:53.000 And if there are any adverse effects, there's no... Pfizer has... There's no liability to the big pharma companies or government compensation.

02:12:03.000 Yeah, so it's all on you.

02:12:05.000 And so I just see that I'm kind of like, they've bungled this quite a bit.

02:12:10.000 Can I still cower at home in fear?

02:12:12.000 You can.

02:12:13.000 Yes, yes.

02:12:14.000 If your mask is on.

02:12:16.000 Yes.

02:12:16.000 And if you're going to have anything to eat or drink, make sure you put the mask back on in between sips and bites.

02:12:23.000 And in the shower.

02:12:23.000 And maybe having a nurse that is prone to, quote, fainting, as the official story is now, maybe not have her the representative to get the first jab?

02:12:32.000 That is kind of weird.

02:12:33.000 That is weird!

02:12:35.000 I was wondering about this, because there's a bunch of stories popping up about, you know, that drive fear, and some of them are kind of isolated incidents, like we had an anaphylactic response to a medical worker in Alaska, one person, and I'm kind of like, is that something that needs to be reported?

02:12:50.000 Or is the media trying to just kind of like scare us all the time?

02:12:54.000 It doesn't sound like the media.

02:12:58.000 But I have to wonder, I'm like, don't they want the vaccine?

02:13:01.000 And then I realized, no, they were the ones claiming Trump could never pull it off.

02:13:04.000 They want ratings.

02:13:06.000 Right.

02:13:06.000 Yeah.

02:13:06.000 So now it's, they, they chose the woman who has a fainting disorder and they give her the vaccine and then she faints and the video goes viral.

02:13:14.000 Or they give an empty syringe to a guy.

02:13:16.000 That was hard to watch.

02:13:19.000 Well, I think, I think the simple solution we talked about is he just accidentally reused the other needle.

02:13:24.000 Yeah.

02:13:24.000 That's even worse.

02:13:25.000 I saw you saying that.

02:13:26.000 Whatever it is, whether it's an incompetence or a conspiracy, it doesn't really build trust.

02:13:30.000 Yeah.

02:13:32.000 Akapat says, with China, it's all Sun Tzu, the art of war. 0.98

02:13:36.000 Know your enemy.

02:13:37.000 The CCP knows this well and their tentacles are in everything in our country.

02:13:41.000 Russia too, but not as prolific.

02:13:43.000 We have adversaries that hate us, collectivists.

02:13:47.000 I kind of want to push back on that a little bit.

02:13:50.000 People always compare it to Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

02:13:53.000 The Chinese Communist Party was a hard split from the 5,000 years of Chinese culture.

02:13:59.000 The tactics of the Chinese Communist Party are communist tactics that you've seen used around the world.

02:14:04.000 the way they flip and invert things.

02:14:07.000 So I wouldn't say this is a result of Sun Tzu.

02:14:10.000 This is specifically communist taxes that they learned from the Soviet Union and improved upon.

02:14:14.000 It's one of those things where we don't really want to think of China as like a Marxist-Leninist Maoist country, but it is.

02:14:21.000 And because like also people like want to learn about Sun Tzu and Chinese culture.

02:14:25.000 That's so much more fun to study than like Leninism, right?

02:14:29.000 Yeah.

02:14:30.000 Interesting.

02:14:31.000 Pereira says Portugal has a 500 year relationship with China.

02:14:34.000 China has invested a lot of money in Portugal, the golden visa scheme, and

02:14:38.000 even talked about China, China interest in the Lajes airbase in the Azores.

02:14:44.000 Interesting.

02:14:46.000 Trip to Portugal, shall I?

02:14:48.000 Yeah, apparently.

02:14:48.000 Bailey and says Alaska has a crapload of rare earth minerals some that aren't anywhere else yet

02:14:53.000 All the hippie to be tree lovers up there don't want us to mind them in my backyard

02:14:57.000 Yeah, yep in the meantime we have these a you know environmentalist climate change people who don't seem to

02:15:04.000 care at all about China Well, no, we need to work with China on climate change 1.00

02:15:10.000 That's right.

02:15:11.000 That's one of the, you know, that's the kind of line from the engagement people.

02:15:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:14.000 That like we need to work with them.

02:15:16.000 Yeah.

02:15:16.000 Get that Paris climate agreement.

02:15:18.000 Yeah.

02:15:19.000 Lucas Oberhauser says, really glad you had Chris and Shelley on tonight.

02:15:22.000 I've been a big fan of China Uncensored for a long time now and has been a great way to keep up to date with what's been happening.

02:15:28.000 The US news never covers.

02:15:30.000 It is really interesting though.

02:15:32.000 It's good and bad at the same time.

02:15:33.000 It would be better if we had a media that told you things that actually were important across the board.

02:15:38.000 But if people are going to specific sources, like you watch my content and we talk about very specific things in politics, typically rag on the Democrats, and you need a healthy diet, you gotta mix it up with something else.

02:15:50.000 We don't really have, you turn the news and they'll give you five minutes of each major segment anymore.

02:15:54.000 Maybe that's not even the best thing.

02:15:56.000 But then maybe people only hear the news about one thing, and maybe it's better to be more well-versed on single issues than to be only knowing a little bit about a bunch of things, perhaps?

02:16:07.000 Good argument.

02:16:08.000 Well, I could go either way, I guess.

02:16:10.000 There you go.

02:16:10.000 Cat LLC says Tim you need to have Joshua Phillip too. He made a great documentary about the CCP connections with the

02:16:16.000 election. Great show as always. We will look into it.

02:16:19.000 Isaac Castillo says everyone exclaim Shelly to show appreciation.

02:16:24.000 Texas Ranger says Falun Gong is a cult according to my Chinese American friend. 0.94

02:16:31.000 The People's Republic of China is an evil, godless empire bent on world domination. 0.99

02:16:35.000 Okay. 0.95

02:16:37.000 I guess he doesn't like either of them, huh?

02:16:39.000 The cult thing was actually something that they managed to use.

02:16:42.000 In Chinese, when they first started going after Falun Gong, they didn't call it a cult.

02:16:46.000 They called it a heterodox organization, which is anything that the government doesn't approve.

02:16:53.000 But cult in English sounds so much better and snappier and makes people hate it.

02:16:57.000 Yeah, like how Uyghurs went from, like, splittists to terrorists. 1.00

02:17:00.000 Yes, basically.

02:17:03.000 Jacob Meyer says, Love you, Chris, and I watch China Uncensored every day.

02:17:06.000 Thank you for doing what you do. 0.77

02:17:07.000 I don't know how people like me would ever know what's going on if you weren't there doing the best damn reporting I've ever seen. 0.77

02:17:13.000 Oh, hey, Tim. 0.77

02:17:14.000 Just the host.

02:17:18.000 Rain says, I'm so glad you have these guys on.

02:17:20.000 I've watched China Uncensored on and off for years and hearing them in conversation, it helps out a lot of context.

02:17:26.000 There you go.

02:17:27.000 Very cool.

02:17:28.000 Drizzd says, Obama threw our oath to help Ukraine when Russia invaded them.

02:17:32.000 So I'm sadly not surprised about Southeast Asia. 0.98

02:17:35.000 That's a good point too.

02:17:38.000 Brewmaster Monk says, a hot war would be a useful way for China to deal with its gender imbalance, especially if they think their liberalization is inevitable anyways. 0.99

02:17:47.000 The one way they actually are dealing with the gender imbalance is the Belt and Road Initiative because they can export all of these young men who are not, like, can't find jobs or, you know, wives and, like, you know, send them to Africa or South America and they can go build the roads there. 0.57

02:18:01.000 Wow.

02:18:02.000 Yeah.

02:18:03.000 Ted says, Chris, I've been following your show for years and I've been asking Tim in the chats for weeks to have you on and I'm so glad it happened.

02:18:09.000 Chris, Shelly, Tim, Lids, I love you guys and I've been sharing your content a lot.

02:18:12.000 Really appreciate it.

02:18:13.000 What about me?

02:18:17.000 Well, Luke is a great guy.

02:18:20.000 I needed that.

02:18:21.000 Thank you.

02:18:24.000 Not good at username says, Duterte is making a big mistake ending Philippines relations with the U.S.

02:18:29.000 and getting closer with China.

02:18:31.000 Talk about independency.

02:18:34.000 Yeah, I think Duterte definitely, when he was campaigning, he was like, I'm going to stand up to China. 0.69

02:18:39.000 And then when he got into power, he was immediately like, the Philippines could be another Chinese province.

02:18:45.000 And we haven't even talked about all the horrible things that are happening in South Korea right now.

02:18:49.000 Oh yeah.

02:18:51.000 Waffles Sensei says, Hey Tim, don't you think it's really weird that the narrative was set so fast to blame Russia for the cyber attacks?

02:18:58.000 Could be true.

02:18:59.000 But I think in the long run, we will need Russia as an ally and an enemy for the days ahead. 0.96

02:19:02.000 I believe Trump understood this too.

02:19:04.000 That's what I thought.

02:19:05.000 China has hacked the U.S. 0.97

02:19:06.000 I do think them immediately coming out being like, it's cyber Pearl Harbor and Russia did it. 0.83

02:19:10.000 I'm like, okay, well we need to have like hearings or something or some legitimate news coverage,

02:19:15.000 not from someone I don't trust.

02:19:16.000 China has hacked the US a lot in the past.

02:19:19.000 And we've not done anything about that, huh?

02:19:23.000 They're probably hacking us right now as we speak Is this a podcast?

02:19:26.000 Oh, we didn't even talk about Zoom.

02:19:28.000 Oh, Zoom.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, that was a big story.

02:19:31.000 The Department of Justice just unsealed an arrest warrant for a Chinese Zoom executive for literally taking user data from the U.S.

02:19:42.000 and giving it to the Chinese government.

02:19:43.000 Wow.

02:19:44.000 Uh, and so that's when everybody was like, Zoom is like, it's kind of sketchy because it has, you know, all the stuff in China and the servers in China.

02:19:51.000 Should we be worried about it?

02:19:52.000 The answer was obvious.

02:19:54.000 Yes.

02:19:54.000 Cameron Ham says China's spy list leaked and two days later, our entire government was hacked and they blame Russia.

02:20:00.000 It's clear it was China. 0.53

02:20:01.000 Well, the hack happened nine months ago.

02:20:04.000 And I believe that was under Chris Krebs, who was recently fired by Trump.

02:20:08.000 Oh, but he told me it was very secure.

02:20:09.000 He said we had this most secure election ever, and he didn't even realize the biggest hack had happened right under his nose.

02:20:15.000 Yep.

02:20:16.000 Well, there you go.

02:20:17.000 Jessica says, really enjoy Luke on the live show and very excited for the future content you have planned.

02:20:21.000 Keep doing what you're doing, Tim.

02:20:22.000 I've learned so much to discover your channels.

02:20:24.000 Thank you.

02:20:25.000 Well, thank you for watching and your super chat helps sustain us.

02:20:28.000 There you go, Luke.

02:20:29.000 Yeah.

02:20:30.000 Bill says, yes, an international investigation found based on Spanish sewer samples that COVID-19 was present at least six months before the fake outbreak.

02:20:38.000 God forbid we use science facts and reason.

02:20:41.000 Well, I don't know about all of that, but thanks for the super chat.

02:20:43.000 Well, there was some data and suggestions that this sickness was around far earlier than originally thought.

02:20:49.000 So the origin, we still don't know where it came from.

02:20:52.000 We still don't have a patient zero, but magically in six months we have a rushed experimental vaccine that's going to fix everything.

02:20:59.000 So that's great.

02:21:01.000 But what we do know is it definitely did not come from China.

02:21:04.000 Definitely.

02:21:05.000 Of course.

02:21:07.000 Let's see, uh, CrazyManJack says, The sickest thing I have ever seen was a video of a man boiling a dog alive, prodding it with a stick to keep it in the wok.

02:21:14.000 Supposedly they believe the more pain they cause the animal, the better it tastes.

02:21:18.000 Please ask your guests why this is a thing.

02:21:20.000 Is that a thing?

02:21:21.000 It's...

02:21:22.000 Well, there's... Overall, the Chinese people do not eat dogs.

02:21:26.000 That has not really been a thing.

02:21:27.000 Uh, except for, like, in extreme famine times.

02:21:29.000 In Vietnam, they do, though, don't they? 0.98

02:21:31.000 Well, it does happen in Korea.

02:21:32.000 In Korea, they do.

02:21:33.000 Yeah.

02:21:33.000 But there is this thing called, like, the... What is it?

02:21:36.000 Yunnan dog meat?

02:21:37.000 Dog Meat Eating Festival.

02:21:39.000 I forget where it is, but then yeah, the specific festival is dedicated to eating dogs.

02:21:43.000 And they do believe that the more pain, the better it tastes.

02:21:47.000 It was kind of like a weird PR stunt by this town where they were like, we don't have anything we're known for.

02:21:52.000 I know we'll have a dog eating festival.

02:21:54.000 Cause it's not traditional in China to eat dogs at all.

02:21:57.000 I always, I always thought people were worried that the fear and pain would make the meat taste bad.

02:22:02.000 Like it would cause chemical imbalances.

02:22:04.000 No, not according to these chefs.

02:22:06.000 Wow.

02:22:07.000 Thanks.

02:22:07.000 There you go.

02:22:09.000 Ted2 says, Chris Shelley, I'm a huge longtime fan of your shows, of all your shows.

02:22:13.000 I commented repeatedly asking Tim to get you to... Oh, is this the same comment?

02:22:17.000 Is it weird?

02:22:17.000 Or is YouTube just doubling it up?

02:22:19.000 Many people have the same opinion about us.

02:22:20.000 That's right.

02:22:22.000 Sebastian Serva says, any opinion on Ripple, XRP, or cryptocurrency in general, and ISO 20022?

02:22:28.000 Do you think this fits into the agenda of adapting digital currency, global capital, and maybe even the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution?

02:22:38.000 I think Bitcoin's going to be worth an insane amount of money in a certain amount of time.

02:22:41.000 I don't know the exact timeframe.

02:22:43.000 There are some people predicting that within the next year or two, one Bitcoin will be $300,000.

02:22:47.000 Some people are saying by the end of this year, so in the next couple of weeks, we'll see it at $28,000, which is easily doable.

02:22:56.000 I mean, it's already at $22,000 or $23,000.

02:22:56.000 It's gone down a little bit.

02:22:59.000 I do think a Bitcoin will be upwards of a million dollars at some point.

02:23:03.000 Really?

02:23:04.000 Yeah, but you have to think about it.

02:23:05.000 It's not a bold prediction.

02:23:07.000 Bitcoins can only disappear.

02:23:09.000 So, I actually had a computer with some coins on it a long time ago.

02:23:13.000 Got destroyed.

02:23:14.000 Those coins are gone.

02:23:15.000 You can't bring them back.

02:23:16.000 So, so long as there's a finite amount of the coins, but the utility remains and people are holding it, the more people who want to buy it that exist, but the shrinking supply means the price can only go up in the long run.

02:23:28.000 Unless, of course, people ultimately just abandon it because they don't want it.

02:23:31.000 I really don't think that would be the case because...

02:23:34.000 There's a real utility in it, in transferring wealth and value very quickly.

02:23:39.000 So I ultimately think a Bitcoin will be worth more than a million.

02:23:42.000 I mean, if Bitcoin remains the dominant most coin that people have confidence in, cryptocurrency, then at a certain point the currency will become more and more scarce, but more and more valuable.

02:23:54.000 More people want it, less of it exists, the trajectory is just straight up.

02:23:59.000 If you want to use it for some utility purpose, like if I want to transfer a hundred bucks to Luke, I don't care about the value of the currency.

02:24:07.000 I'll buy a hundred dollars worth of Bitcoin, send it to Luke, and he'll sell it.

02:24:11.000 All within a split second.

02:24:12.000 So it's almost like a value protocol.

02:24:15.000 You've been using that with the people you've been working with in, like, Europe, right?

02:24:18.000 Crypto?

02:24:19.000 Well, like, paying people like that.

02:24:20.000 No.

02:24:21.000 No, no, no.

02:24:22.000 The people I've paid have always been just the regular old way.

02:24:25.000 Oh.

02:24:25.000 It's like, you know, PayPal or something.

02:24:28.000 Who am I thinking of?

02:24:29.000 I don't know.

02:24:30.000 But if someone wants to buy that, the people who are holding it are essentially holding that service.

02:24:35.000 So if you're like, hey I need to buy some coins sent to my buddy, then the person who has it can charge whatever they

02:24:40.000 want.

02:24:40.000 But you don't care, you're like, I want $100 worth.

02:24:42.000 Okay, well I'll give you one, you can sell it for one.

02:24:44.000 Okay.

02:24:45.000 So whatever the value is, I think ultimately it'll just keep going up.

02:24:48.000 But maybe not, I don't know.

02:24:49.000 I think it ultimately will because it's everything global elites and special interests want.

02:24:56.000 Completely traceable.

02:24:58.000 We were talking about this earlier.

02:25:00.000 Andrew Yang posted, is there a way we can check to see if everybody's been vaccinated, right?

02:25:04.000 I'll tell you what I'm surprised they haven't already done, is a cryptocurrency for tracking vaccinations and contact tracing.

02:25:11.000 Because think about it, you'll have a public ledger.

02:25:14.000 They can see if you've been vaccinated.

02:25:16.000 Why are you giving them ideas?

02:25:18.000 I'm not.

02:25:18.000 I don't know.

02:25:19.000 Because I'm sure they had the idea already.

02:25:21.000 Oh, maybe not.

02:25:22.000 Whatever.

02:25:22.000 It's a good idea.

02:25:23.000 I mean, I think it's a nightmarish scenario.

02:25:27.000 It's mass surveillance.

02:25:28.000 But if you think about how contact tracing works, you go to a restaurant and they're saying they're going to scan your barcode or whatever.

02:25:34.000 Imagine if it was all just on the blockchain.

02:25:36.000 Everything just, you know.

02:25:38.000 I actually think that'd probably be bad for them.

02:25:39.000 That's probably why they didn't do it.

02:25:41.000 They want the proprietary information, tracking all your information, knowing everything about you, and not letting anyone see it.

02:25:46.000 So they don't want it publicly on the blockchain.

02:25:49.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:25:51.000 Bandrew Scott says, Chris and Shelley, short of sharing China Uncensored with everyone we know, what can we do to help fight the human rights abuses in China?

02:25:59.000 Limit purchases of products made in China or something else?

02:26:03.000 We get that question a lot.

02:26:04.000 I mean, definitely sharing.

02:26:06.000 The episode was good.

02:26:06.000 I'm not saying that just for self-interest, but like the more people who are aware, it's really important.

02:26:11.000 But, you know, like study Chinese in school, get involved in think tanks, involved in politics.

02:26:17.000 We need people who know what's going on in positions of power.

02:26:20.000 I mean, that's a long-term thing.

02:26:22.000 But yeah, it's pretty important because you have like 30 years of this engagement school coming through now, right?

02:26:27.000 Where people are still, they're going to like Georgetown or you're going to like these places where all they teach is that they don't teach about China's, you know, political warfare or their unrestricted warfare.

02:26:38.000 Oh, no, they teach that America is bad and racist.

02:26:40.000 Yeah.

02:26:40.000 So you have these people who are not like, and then they get into positions of power.

02:26:44.000 So it's pretty important that, you know, people understand what's happening.

02:26:48.000 Even in the military, it's an issue.

02:26:49.000 So join the military.

02:26:51.000 I think that, you know, limiting things that you buy from China is a help.

02:26:57.000 Sometimes it is almost impossible.

02:26:59.000 It's true.

02:27:00.000 But, um, yeah, I try to do that whenever possible.

02:27:02.000 Yeah.

02:27:04.000 Douglas says Paul Revere Award for China Uncensored.

02:27:07.000 Ooh, there you go.

02:27:08.000 I like awards.

02:27:10.000 Lone Wolf says, Great show Tim and gang.

02:27:12.000 I used to play PUBG on PC but had to stop playing because Chinese players would fill NA servers and use cheats and hacks. 1.00

02:27:19.000 90% of banned players were Chinese.

02:27:21.000 Cheating and abusing the system is the CCP way.

02:27:25.000 World of Warcraft had a thing for a while where there were Chinese gold farms.

02:27:29.000 Do you guys know anything about that?

02:27:30.000 I've heard about that.

02:27:30.000 Do you guys know anything about World of Warcraft?

02:27:32.000 So, uh, you're playing World of Warcraft, this is back in the day, way back in the day.

02:27:35.000 Because things are different now, you can just buy gold for your character through a system they've created.

02:27:40.000 Back in the day, you know, when I was playing World of Warcraft in like 06, you would, you'd go around, it's called grinding, you're killing monsters, and then you'd get their stuff and you'd sell it to the vendors and you'd get copper and silver and gold.

02:27:51.000 But some players were rich, and they didn't want to have to actually play the game to play the game.

02:27:56.000 They wanted the good stuff now, and they needed money to get it.

02:27:58.000 So, in China, people would play the game and just go around just grinding and killing monsters, and it was extremely tedious work.

02:28:07.000 And then you could go on these websites, pay money, and then they would mail you in-game the currency.

02:28:12.000 Wow.

02:28:13.000 Yeah.

02:28:13.000 Video game slave labor.

02:28:14.000 Yep.

02:28:14.000 And it was, it was against the rules and a lot of people got scammed and their characters and accounts got stolen.

02:28:20.000 And there were reports where people were like, I was buying gold and now my account is gone and they destroyed everything.

02:28:24.000 I'd say, yep.

02:28:25.000 Everything you've ever, you've played for your game is gone.

02:28:29.000 Kind of exactly what's happening with American companies going into China.

02:28:32.000 That's the name of the game.

02:28:33.000 Oh wow.

02:28:34.000 Don Paulson says, hi, Chris.

02:28:36.000 Is there any kind of push to create some form of civilian defense force in Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion?

02:28:41.000 I love your show.

02:28:42.000 Oh, Taiwan already has a pretty robust military, especially as the U.S.

02:28:48.000 over the past couple of years has been selling more and more weapons to Taiwan.

02:28:51.000 So it would not be an easy invasion.

02:28:56.000 Taiwan also has mandatory military service for all men.

02:29:00.000 Yeah.

02:29:00.000 And they got, uh, what's his name?

02:29:01.000 Jin, not Jin Yong.

02:29:03.000 Huh?

02:29:04.000 The guy we interviewed, the Joe Rogan of Taiwan, who said he would personally fight them.

02:29:08.000 Oh, uh, Holger Chen.

02:29:10.000 That's it.

02:29:11.000 Yeah.

02:29:13.000 Tito Latino says, and this is something we gotta fact check, but I'm gonna read it anyway.

02:29:16.000 August 9th, 2020, Wall Street Journal, U.S.

02:29:19.000 NSA mentions China trying to hack U.S.

02:29:22.000 Secretary of State voter rolls.

02:29:23.000 Statement also said that China prefers that President Trump, a Republican, not win re-election.

02:29:28.000 I believe that latter part is true for sure.

02:29:30.000 Interesting.

02:29:32.000 Unlix Go says, Tin Cap, what if someone bought BTC when it was $10,000 for $1 and spent $1,000?

02:29:38.000 Do the math.

02:29:39.000 But it's like gold.

02:29:40.000 Try to buy milk with it.

02:29:42.000 Kinda tough.

02:29:42.000 But it's just a story.

02:29:44.000 Well, I almost bought about 6,500 Bitcoin in 2011.

02:29:48.000 My friend was like, don't do it, man.

02:29:50.000 It's like, what is... This was back in the day, they had this thing called the Bitcoin Faucet, where it would give out, I think, 0.05 Bitcoin for free, every like 10 minutes.

02:29:59.000 And you could just like, put in your address or whatever, and then you just get it.

02:30:03.000 And so I was like, huh, now I have like, you know, 3 cents worth of Bitcoin I can't do anything with. 0.95

02:30:09.000 And I was like, this is dumb.

02:30:10.000 But I ended up with a few coins on a computer. 0.90

02:30:13.000 Computer got destroyed in a fire.

02:30:14.000 Those coins are gone forever.

02:30:16.000 But my buddy, we were looking at this website and it was like you could buy, it was really hard to buy Bitcoin back then.

02:30:22.000 You had to like directly message someone and then like physically give them money and then they would send the coins to your address.

02:30:27.000 And it happened almost instantly because the blockchain was a lot smaller.

02:30:30.000 My friend was like, dude...

02:30:32.000 It's worthless.

02:30:33.000 You can't do anything with it.

02:30:34.000 It's probably some dude who just made some scam online.

02:30:37.000 Hey, give me your money and I'll give you this number.

02:30:39.000 And then next thing you know, it goes belly up and you lost your savings.

02:30:43.000 And I was like, that's a good point, man.

02:30:45.000 You know, the technology is interesting, but why would anyone use this?

02:30:49.000 It's hard to give up your savings at the time.

02:30:51.000 And then I remember it was like, uh, a year later, it was like $35.

02:30:56.000 And I was like, how much money would I would have had if I just bought it?

02:30:59.000 Oh, you told me I had to do it.

02:31:00.000 And we were like, I was pulled the calculator.

02:31:02.000 And then it just gets better every year.

02:31:04.000 How much, I think it would be $145 million.

02:31:08.000 However, people point out, dude, you would have sold a long time ago.

02:31:11.000 You would have put in your five grand or whatever.

02:31:14.000 And then once it hit 20 bucks, you would have danced all the way to the bank, sold it all out for a massive return.

02:31:20.000 And I'm like, yeah, definitely, definitely.

02:31:23.000 Because, you know, it's just a smart thing to do.

02:31:26.000 Like, any investment.

02:31:27.000 Granted, if you were alive today, if you were alive today and you could go back in time, you'd be like, never sell.

02:31:34.000 So think about that.

02:31:35.000 You know, never selling.

02:31:36.000 I remember a couple of years ago, I think it was like 2016, it hit like 7 grand.

02:31:40.000 And everyone was like, this is ridiculous, it's too high.

02:31:43.000 And then it fell down to like 3 grand.

02:31:46.000 Imagine if you bought back then.

02:31:48.000 You'd be very happy.

02:31:50.000 Anyway.

02:31:51.000 If it goes to a million.

02:31:53.000 Chris and Shelley, thanks so much for hanging out.

02:31:54.000 Thanks for having us.

02:31:55.000 Do you want to shout out your social medias and your channels one more time for everybody?

02:31:58.000 Yeah, you can follow China Uncensored on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.

02:32:02.000 I also recommend that show, America Uncovered, by that other guy.

02:32:06.000 Also on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and that one actually has a Parler account as well.

02:32:12.000 Oh, interesting.

02:32:13.000 Right on.

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02:32:22.000 And we also have a podcast called China Unscripted that we're all in.

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02:33:31.000 Again, thanks so much for hanging out.

02:33:32.000 This was a great conversation and we'll probably have you back on at some point.

02:33:35.000 I'm sure the conversation around China will get spicier as time goes on. 0.99

02:33:38.000 That was great.

02:33:40.000 Lots of fun.

02:33:40.000 And I can't believe I'm sitting in the chair that Alex Jones sat in.

02:33:44.000 Is that why you picked that side?

02:33:45.000 You're like, I want to sit in Jones's chair.

02:33:46.000 Well, I can feel the residual male vitality.

02:33:50.000 Michael Malice left his super male vitality here.

02:33:54.000 It's just been sitting here.

02:33:55.000 I don't know what to do with it.

02:33:56.000 So it's just on the table.

02:33:57.000 People are walking in.

02:33:58.000 Whenever someone comes in, I go, it's for you, actually.

02:34:00.000 And then I take it back.

02:34:01.000 Michael, come get your super male vitality.

02:34:03.000 Well, hey, instead of worshiping mangoes, we can worship Mike Malice's super male vitality.

02:34:07.000 Let's get a painting of the people holding it up.

02:34:09.000 And what's the other one called?

02:34:11.000 The brain blast?

02:34:12.000 Is that what it is?

02:34:13.000 Yeah, brain blast.

02:34:14.000 That's the Jimmy Neutron thing.

02:34:15.000 Anyway, Thanks for hanging out everybody.

02:34:17.000 We'll be back Monday at 8 p.m.

02:34:19.000 and we'll see you all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 19, 2020

Timcast IRL - Mike Pompeo Announces Executive Action Against China, w- China Uncensored

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