Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - New SCOTUS Leaks CONFIRM They STILL Plan To Overturn Roe v. Wade w-Darryl Cooper

00:00:00.000 Yeah.

00:00:07.000 So we got more leaks coming out of the Supreme Court.

00:00:09.000 They're not nearly as egregious as the first leak.

00:00:12.000 The first leak we saw was, for the first time in history, an initial draft had been released to the public, but this draft on the repealing of or the overturning of Roe v. Wade was from February.

00:00:23.000 So a lot of people were thinking, look, maybe it will have changed by now.

00:00:27.000 It's certainly going to be a different argument because the justices have weighed in.

00:00:31.000 We now have several conservative clerks Telling the Washington Post that the justices who have voted to overturn Roe v. Roe and Casey have not changed their minds.

00:00:42.000 Clarence Thomas says they won't be bullied.

00:00:45.000 And of course, this is resulting in continued outrage and people on the left losing their minds.

00:00:51.000 I gotta be honest, it's very strange to me because all this does is return the issue to the states.

00:00:57.000 It's not a ban on abortion.

00:00:59.000 Several states will ban abortion, but these are overwhelmingly Republican states anyway, and the urban liberal women who are freaking out don't live in these places. 0.99

00:01:07.000 I just... I understand some of them may, and they may be concerned about it, but I just think we're not getting a real argument, for the most part, from the people screaming, no more dating and they're on a sex strike, when that's literally what conservatives would prefer in the whole issue, so... Anyway, the conflict is rising.

00:01:24.000 We have a new theory out of NPR that it was actually a conservative justice that leaked the initial draft in order to force the conservative justices to retain that position.

00:01:34.000 Otherwise, it would appear that they were swayed by the public.

00:01:36.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:37.000 We'll talk about the riots and the violence that have happened at these pro-life centers and NGOs.

00:01:42.000 We also have protesters planning on going to more homes of Supreme Court justices, which is illegal, but you know, I'll be...

00:01:51.000 You guys think anybody's gonna get arrested?

00:01:52.000 I really doubt it.

00:01:53.000 And then we have Elon Musk, who said he might die in mysterious circumstances.

00:01:57.000 And then, of course, there's the food shortage and a whole bunch of other stuff like that.

00:02:02.000 So it should be interesting.

00:02:03.000 Joining us to talk about all of this is Daryl Cooper.

00:02:06.000 Do you want to introduce yourself, Daryl?

00:02:09.000 Yeah, my name is Daryl Cooper, as Tim said.

00:02:11.000 I am the host of the Martyr Made podcast and the co-host of The Unraveling with Jocko Willink.

00:02:17.000 I live in San Diego and I make podcasts.

00:02:21.000 Right on.

00:02:22.000 What kind of, what do you normally talk about?

00:02:24.000 Like, what's your... So Martyr Made is, it's a long form history podcast.

00:02:27.000 Episodes that come out every several months.

00:02:30.000 They're three, four, five, sometimes seven hours long.

00:02:34.000 I dig deep into historical topics.

00:02:37.000 Sometimes I'll pick one and it'll be a single episode, like my most recent episode was about Nietzsche and Dostoevsky and how their ideas and biographies kind of have interplay.

00:02:45.000 But sometimes I'll do seven episodes on the Jonestown cult or six episodes on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

00:02:51.000 Oh, wow.

00:02:51.000 Yeah, before the show, you were talking a little bit about Jonestown, so we probably have a lot to talk about, because I usually refer to a lot of these people as cultists, you know?

00:02:59.000 So, we'll talk about that, and thanks for hanging out, man.

00:03:01.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:02.000 We got Seamus.

00:03:03.000 Seamus of Freedom Tunes.

00:03:04.000 I make cartoons on a channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:03:06.000 If y'all want to, you know, go check that out, I think you'll enjoy it.

00:03:10.000 We're going to be uploading a cartoon on Thursday, and yeah, man, this situation is hilarious.

00:03:15.000 The idea of, like, a sex strike, because if conservatives are going to hear that, they're going to go, no! 0.88

00:03:19.000 Please, anything but that, liberal women. 1.00

00:03:21.000 It's so ridiculous. 1.00

00:03:23.000 And also, it's really offensive to women to assume that all of their political capital is just having sex. 1.00

00:03:29.000 To imply that you view that to be a woman's role in society and what they're good for and the way that they should affect political change is really objectifying.

00:03:38.000 It's like, men will respond to this!

00:03:40.000 And all the conservatives are like, we agree with it.

00:03:42.000 They're like, stop, get married.

00:03:45.000 I'm just double-checking, but Lysistrata is the Greek play that was about the women refusing sex to the men so that they would, I think, not go to war or something like that.

00:03:54.000 And it was a comedy.

00:03:55.000 It's just the entire concept of the society of women not having sex anymore is hilarious. 0.99

00:04:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.95

00:04:03.000 I don't, you know, it's also blackmail, but we'll see if it works, I guess.

00:04:06.000 I want to show you guys, before we get started, Tim got this for me.

00:04:09.000 It's a $10 note from the Bank of Columbus, Georgia, before the Federal Reserve existed.

00:04:14.000 States used to issue their own currency.

00:04:17.000 It's actually a national.

00:04:18.000 This is a national currency issued by a bank.

00:04:20.000 Yeah, so I was at a collector's shop, and the guy said, this is pre-Federal Reserve money, and I was like, oh, I gotta get that first.

00:04:24.000 Haha, he said the magic words.

00:04:26.000 Pre-Federal Reserve.

00:04:28.000 Well, hey, good to see ya!

00:04:30.000 And I'm also here in the corner pushing buttons.

00:04:31.000 I just wanted to weigh in on this conversation about a possible sex strike, and I think that these ladies are using this as an excuse to pretend that they're getting laid. 1.00

00:04:38.000 I don't believe any of them are actually getting any.

00:04:41.000 That's my two cents. 0.62

00:04:42.000 Well, as an aside, there's a meme from conservatives where it's like, the woman going on a sex strike, and it's a bunch of, like, frumpy, purple-haired women. 1.00

00:04:49.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 And then it says the woman not going on strike, and it's a bunch of, like, busty, Trump-supporting women, so...

00:04:54.000 I mean, look, look, last time I brought this up, the Young Turks were very offended, but

00:04:58.000 then confirmed what I said was true.

00:05:00.000 Conservatives tend to be more attractive than liberals, according to multiple studies.

00:05:04.000 That doesn't mean every conservative, I mean, every liberal, they're attractive lefty women, 1.00

00:05:08.000 they're attractive conservative women, but it's a tendency among both males and females. 1.00

00:05:12.000 And the Young Turks are really mad at me for saying it.

00:05:15.000 And then while they made fun of me and called me ugly, they confirmed everything I said.

00:05:19.000 So that's, there you go.

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00:06:47.000 And I just want to mention one thing as an aside too.

00:06:50.000 Every so often I'll have a cheat day where everybody wants to go out to eat

00:06:54.000 and the food options are, you know, grainy or sugary, but I'm like, it's no big deal.

00:06:59.000 It's like, you know, I've been eating really well all month.

00:07:02.000 And then I'll have that one day where I'll eat something sugary

00:07:05.000 and I'll eat something with bread in it.

00:07:07.000 And then I just feel like someone smacked me in the face with a plank of wood.

00:07:11.000 They call it cheating for a reason because you're not supposed to do it.

00:07:14.000 It actually just feels miserable after doing it.

00:07:18.000 And I'm experiencing it right now because we went out to eat for Mother's Day

00:07:20.000 and I was like, we got to get the best of the best and the fancy desserts.

00:07:23.000 And now I'm just like, what's wrong with me?

00:07:26.000 So anyway.

00:07:26.000 I read an article one time that said that that's actually scientifically good for you, and I don't know if it's true, but I was like, I'm going with that.

00:07:32.000 A cheat day?

00:07:33.000 Yeah.

00:07:33.000 Well, I guess the idea is that you overload, so you get everything you might be missing.

00:07:38.000 So I think I was actually low on iron.

00:07:41.000 Ian mentioned it to me.

00:07:42.000 Oh, I think I'm low on iron, yeah.

00:07:43.000 Iron's big.

00:07:43.000 So I was like, oh yeah, because I didn't eat a steak for a while.

00:07:46.000 Because I was eating eggs and bacon.

00:07:48.000 We actually have cast iron pans.

00:07:49.000 You're supposed to cook in your cast iron pan to get more iron in your diet, I've heard.

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00:08:47.000 Let's jump into this first story we have from Mediaite.

00:08:50.000 Washington Post obtains new leaks from Supreme Court revealing conservative justices are holding the line.

00:08:56.000 Not just that, Chief Justice John Roberts appears to have lost control and Clarence Thomas may now actually be in more control.

00:09:05.000 We don't know exactly.

00:09:06.000 We don't know exactly.

00:09:06.000 There's only a couple leaks.

00:09:07.000 The first leak was the initial draft.

00:09:09.000 Check this out.

00:09:10.000 Mediaite says oddly, the article itself appears to include another leak, which is clearly reported to have come from conservatives close to the court, who of course spoke on the condition of anonymity.

00:09:20.000 The sources are said to have told reporters about private conversations between Roberts and his fellow jurists as far back as early December.

00:09:26.000 They say, The leaked draft opinion is dated in February and is almost surely obsolete now, as justices have had time to offer dissents and revisions.

00:09:34.000 But as of last week, the majority of five justices to strike Roe remains intact, according to three conservatives close to the court who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.

00:09:46.000 So we don't know who these people are.

00:09:48.000 Clearly someone who knows what's going on in the court, presumably a clerk.

00:09:52.000 They say a person close to the most conservative members of the court said Roberts told his fellow jurists in private conference in early December he planned to uphold the state law and write an opinion that left Rowan Casey in place for now.

00:10:05.000 But the other conservatives were more interested in an opinion that overturned the precedents, the person said.

00:10:10.000 A spokesman for the court declined to comment and messages extended to justices were unreturned.

00:10:16.000 Also, according to the Washington Post, Nope.

00:10:18.000 Nope.

00:10:18.000 Absolutely not.

00:10:19.000 that Clarence Thomas was the one who instructed Alito to draft the majority opinion. And Alito has

00:10:25.000 always been in favor of restrictions on abortion and opposing Roe v. Wade. So it looks like Roberts

00:10:33.000 was trying to get the conservatives to side with upholding Roe v. Wade. And they basically said,

00:10:38.000 nope, nope, absolutely not. So thank goodness. Well, so is this is this bad?

00:10:43.000 Let me show you the big point of the story.

00:10:46.000 The Hill, regurgitating an NPR story, says the leading theory on SCOTUS League is a conservative clerk.

00:10:52.000 And the argument is, with Justice John Roberts trying to get these other conservative justices to uphold Roe v. Wade, a conservative clerk released the draft opinion to force them to stick to it, because if they change their opinion now, it'll look like they were swayed by public opinion.

00:11:09.000 What do you guys think?

00:11:10.000 I mean, if NPR said it, I'm going to say probably not true.

00:11:14.000 I think that if you're leaking Supreme Court documents, that's probably a federal offense.

00:11:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:20.000 I mean, regardless, this is a serious breach of ethics.

00:11:25.000 I don't care who did it or why.

00:11:27.000 We need to find them and we need to punish them.

00:11:29.000 Yeah.

00:11:30.000 What do you think, Darrell?

00:11:30.000 It seems like part of a larger trend toward just undermining all of our institutions, right?

00:11:36.000 And all of the customs and ways of doing things that have kind of been the glue and sinews that have held things together over all this time, right?

00:11:43.000 The United States is a country... We got all types of people here, you know, from every continent on the planet, every religion, every race, everything.

00:11:53.000 People who believe that all different types of ways of life are, you know, the most appropriate way to live.

00:11:59.000 And you hold that together by a thread.

00:12:04.000 And that thread is those traditions and customs and those institutions that we use

00:12:08.000 to moderate our conversations with one another.

00:12:11.000 And if we lose those things, we're gonna lose everything.

00:12:14.000 I saw this leftist meme post where they said, Republicans are trying to burn the country down

00:12:20.000 and destroy all of its institutions.

00:12:22.000 And I thought to myself, that is absolutely accurate, 100%.

00:12:27.000 The institutions that have been taken over by the left, the conservatives are absolutely intent on taking down, like public education, the Department of Education, colleges. 0.50

00:12:36.000 So if you think about it in terms of what we value as constitutionalists, when I hear that, the constitutionalist part of me says, that's ridiculous.

00:12:47.000 The left has been gutting and destroying everything.

00:12:49.000 They're the ones stripping the Bill of Rights and blah, blah, blah.

00:12:51.000 But I don't want to just be overtly biased.

00:12:54.000 I was like, well, what institutions are they talking about?

00:12:56.000 I'm like, oh yeah, the universities.

00:12:57.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:12:59.000 Cultural institutions?

00:13:00.000 They've been completely taken over.

00:13:00.000 Oh, you bet.

00:13:03.000 So I think conservatives would love to see the universities falter.

00:13:06.000 But when we're talking about courts, when we're talking about the rule of law, that's absolutely not true.

00:13:11.000 It's the left that's doing that, in my opinion.

00:13:13.000 And there's two different layers to institutions, right?

00:13:15.000 There's there's Harvard University and then there's education in the United States or there's the Washington Post.

00:13:21.000 But then there's journalism, which is an institution.

00:13:24.000 And they certainly want to burn the Washington Post and Harvard, you know, Harvard down.

00:13:28.000 But I think that.

00:13:30.000 In their minds, at least, conservatives want to do that so they can get back.

00:13:34.000 Well, this is a really interesting point.

00:13:36.000 The left, I think, looks at the brick-and-mortar structure as the institution, and the right views the concept as the institution.

00:13:45.000 A just court is an institution.

00:13:47.000 To the left, the Supreme Court is the institution, the court itself, the building itself.

00:13:52.000 Well, I think the left knows that they're going to be able to intimidate people into doing their bidding by going after the actual physical location.

00:13:58.000 So you look at the fact that they are genuinely trying to intimidate Supreme Court justices.

00:14:02.000 And I think that when you look at the behavior of the right, there is no comparison between the right and the left in terms of how much rioting has occurred.

00:14:10.000 I mean, the left, it's their go-to.

00:14:13.000 As soon as this information got leaked, we knew they were going to be threatening violence immediately.

00:14:20.000 I feel like the locations are points of vulnerability within the institutions.

00:14:27.000 We put so much faith and trust in these people at these institutions, like the president of Harvard or the Supreme Court justices, that if they get tweaked or bribed or something, The entire, or if they leak something, the entire system falters.

00:14:40.000 In social media administration, we have a thing called trustless systems, where you don't have to trust that someone has your back or that someone's going to make the right choice.

00:14:48.000 The system is in plain view.

00:14:49.000 Everyone knows what's happening.

00:14:50.000 It's automatic.

00:14:52.000 And I think maybe that our government needs trustless systems as well.

00:14:55.000 I think, just going back to my point, how the establishment left and many on the left view the existing structure as an institution, like the Washington Post is the institution of journalism, whereas the right wants to restore the actual institution of journalism.

00:15:12.000 And I think those are different worldviews where if you can understand how many on the left or liberals or Democrats think, you'll better understand what their arguments are.

00:15:22.000 That was kind of my point when they said, the right's trying to destroy our institutions.

00:15:25.000 It's like, well, think, what must they mean?

00:15:28.000 Harvard University, not education.

00:15:31.000 They like their, you know, archaic structures.

00:15:34.000 But I think, you know, for us who believe in freedom and liberty, we like the idea of education.

00:15:39.000 And education can come from anywhere.

00:15:40.000 For me, it came from going online and reading free information from various, you know, professors or news outlets and not formal education.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, I don't think they're trying to destroy the education system, but maybe the public schooling system that Dewey set up in like the early 1900s where they're creating these like factory workers and basically soldiers are getting people ready to raise their hand and only speak when they're spoken to.

00:16:04.000 I think a lot of people are done with that.

00:16:05.000 They want school choice.

00:16:06.000 They want to learn online.

00:16:07.000 You know, Phoenix University was really groundbreaking in the early 2000s, I think it was.

00:16:11.000 You get your degree online.

00:16:14.000 There's a basic difference between the way conservatives and progressives approach politics in general, the way like the down to the level of what they think the purpose and point of politics is right to a progressive.

00:16:24.000 I mean, it's built into their name.

00:16:27.000 And this is true of liberals as well.

00:16:28.000 Just that the purpose of politics is to get us somewhere that there are certain things that either need to be fixed or improved or achieved, whatever it is.

00:16:37.000 And the purpose of politics is our means of coming together to achieve or fix or these things.

00:16:44.000 And conservatives don't see it that way.

00:16:45.000 Conservatives have a much more tragic view of history.

00:16:48.000 They look around and say, we're not going to some final destination in America.

00:16:54.000 The goal of politics is much more like relations between family members to conservatives.

00:17:02.000 The point of this is to make sure that we're all still friends tomorrow.

00:17:05.000 That's the only point to politics, is to make sure that we are all still friends tomorrow and that we can come together to deal with things as they arise.

00:17:13.000 And you're going to get very different approaches to institutions when that's the case, right?

00:17:17.000 Progressives can look at it and say, the point here is to get to that place where this social justice aim is achieved, or whatever it is.

00:17:24.000 And if an institution seems to be slowing that down, Scorched earth.

00:17:29.000 I mean, that institution is in the way.

00:17:31.000 Whereas a conservative says, no, no, no.

00:17:33.000 Maintaining that institution's credibility so that we're not all killing each other tomorrow instead of working through our institutions.

00:17:39.000 That's the point.

00:17:41.000 I was thinking about that, too.

00:17:42.000 I was like, there's got to be rules that we all agree to play by.

00:17:45.000 But that doesn't apply to the progressive worldview.

00:17:48.000 The progressive worldview has been, and I'll just throw it to the late David Graeber, where I started to think about these ideas, when he said that elements of the left have embraced the fascistic tenet, there is no truth but power.

00:18:00.000 And you take a look at what many on the right would call a double standard, and James Lindsay, I think it's James Lindsay, he said there is no double standard.

00:18:07.000 If it's good for the revolution, it's good.

00:18:08.000 If it's bad for the revolution, it's bad.

00:18:10.000 That's how you end up seeing contradictory concepts like you must be vaccinated regardless of your own body and abortion my body my choice. 0.78

00:18:19.000 They then act like conservatives are the hypocrites when in reality they just don't know what conservatives are arguing.

00:18:23.000 Whereas conservatives are outright saying it's not your body it's the other body.

00:18:27.000 Address the argument from that point if you want to have a conversation but they're not.

00:18:30.000 So you know ultimately I think For me, I wonder, what are the rules to the system we're in so that I can make sure we don't come at each other and go nuts, right?

00:18:40.000 And it doesn't seem like it matters because the rules for, as you pointed out, for the progressives is to accomplish their social justice goals.

00:18:47.000 Social justice goals where everyone else is kind of, for the most part, conservatives.

00:18:51.000 But I think, you know, whatever the two factions really end up being, libertarian or otherwise, is how do we live together and survive this catastrophe, I guess.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, I definitely think there's truth in what you're saying.

00:19:02.000 The left has a much more Hegelian approach to their view of history.

00:19:05.000 They see it as this process and this structure that is building towards its ultimate end.

00:19:11.000 And even that, I think from a metaphysical Christian worldview, there's truth in.

00:19:16.000 But I think conservatives, as you have said, do have this more tragic view of history.

00:19:20.000 It's more or less We are teetering on the brink.

00:19:22.000 It's not as if we are just guaranteed that tomorrow is going to be better than today.

00:19:27.000 This could all fall off if we try to change the system in the wrong way.

00:19:32.000 I want to pull up this story here we have from WUSA9.

00:19:37.000 Group to hold vigil outside Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito's home in response to potential Roe v. Wade overturn.

00:19:47.000 The group plans to host a vigil near Alito's home starting at 7.30 p.m., blah, blah, blah.

00:19:50.000 A vigil!

00:19:52.000 So they already went to Kavanaugh's house, which is illegal.

00:19:52.000 Oh, a vigil!

00:19:55.000 And now they're going to Alito's house, which is illegal.

00:19:57.000 But don't worry, it's a vigil.

00:19:59.000 What a protest, a vigil.

00:20:01.000 So the law says, the US code, you cannot parade or picket in front of a judge's house.

00:20:08.000 I'm simplifying it, but I think it makes sense.

00:20:12.000 The court precedent or the legal precedent is that due process injustice supersedes your

00:20:18.000 right to free speech.

00:20:19.000 Because without those processes, you can't have free speech.

00:20:23.000 So, in this instance, people should not be going to the homes of these justices, but anyone wanna take a bet as to when or if any of these people will get charged with any kind of crime?

00:20:34.000 Shaking your head already?

00:20:35.000 Everybody?

00:20:36.000 Well, let me tell you, if any of them do get charged, we're gonna see politicians tweeting out the link to the GoFundMe to get them bailed out.

00:20:44.000 So this is a vigil.

00:20:45.000 The definition is the act of keeping awake at times when sleep is customary.

00:20:50.000 So they're just gonna go sit and stay awake all night outside his house?

00:20:52.000 No, they're screaming.

00:20:53.000 If they're screaming, then it's a protest.

00:20:55.000 Right, right, right.

00:20:56.000 It's semantic games.

00:20:57.000 Manipulation.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:00.000 Well, we already know that Jen Psaki has no negative words to say about these protesters. 0.96

00:21:05.000 She's like, well, people sometimes feel very passionate.

00:21:08.000 Like, oh yeah, they felt passionate on January 6th, and you have a very different view of that.

00:21:12.000 Well, I mean, there's a- January 6th is different from showing up at someone's house, but showing up at someone's house is overt terror against- Worse in some ways.

00:21:20.000 Worse in some ways.

00:21:20.000 In many ways, actually.

00:21:22.000 But Jen Psaki did walk this back. 1.00

00:21:23.000 She came out and she was, like, she tweeted, it's probably not even her, it's like some intern tweeting, like, sent out a message and she was just like, violence can never be tolerated and people should feel safe.

00:21:32.000 It's like, I missed the part, Jen, where you included, don't go to the homes of these justices, which they're doing.

00:21:39.000 So I think, I was talking about this earlier, A lot of people say it's worse now than it's ever been, but then people like to point out the assassination attempts of the past and the weather underground, you know, the weathermen and the bombings and stuff and the death.

00:21:55.000 I think back then we had acute spikes of political extremism.

00:22:01.000 And today we have a low consistent rumbling of extremism, which is worse.

00:22:06.000 It's death by a thousand cuts.

00:22:07.000 The way I explain it is if we in the past had an assassination attempt, that would be

00:22:11.000 like someone taking a pickaxe to the hole of your ship.

00:22:13.000 Boom.

00:22:14.000 They punch a hole in it.

00:22:15.000 The water's spraying through and you're like, quick, we better patch this hole up.

00:22:19.000 And everyone panics and you rush and you patch the hole up.

00:22:21.000 Today it's a thousand small holes.

00:22:24.000 and you can't patch them up fast enough.

00:22:25.000 It is death by a thousand cuts.

00:22:27.000 So this low-level rumbling that is affecting every level of government, that's consistent.

00:22:31.000 I mean, I'll put it this way.

00:22:33.000 I've been saying for how long tensions are escalating, potential civil war or strife or whatever, some kind of hyper-polarization, then geographic polarization.

00:22:42.000 And then we get a story about the overturning of Roe v. Wade, when I even said before the story came out, That I think abortion could be a catalyst for another civil war. 0.72

00:22:50.000 And not just me, Stephen Marsh said it.

00:22:51.000 He's the guy who wrote the book, The Next Civil War.

00:22:53.000 And now, sure enough, it drops.

00:22:56.000 They're going to overturn it.

00:22:57.000 They're holding firm with the latest leaks.

00:22:59.000 People are already starting to protest in front of justices' homes.

00:23:02.000 Law students are defying the idea of the sanctity of the court.

00:23:06.000 How are we going to pull this together and get past this in any meaningful way?

00:23:11.000 It's really hard to reestablish deterrence once it's been lost, right?

00:23:15.000 And that deals like in the international arena with military strategy, whether it's law enforcement or just basic norms and ethics.

00:23:22.000 Once one side, you know, it's like that it's like that driver that everybody hates who just kind of realizes that I can actually just cut everybody off and I can just cut across traffic and make turns as long as I don't get caught by a car.

00:23:33.000 I might be inconveniencing everybody else, but I'm going to get to where I want to go quicker than anybody else.

00:23:38.000 And he realizes maybe on some level that if everybody started doing that then nobody's getting anywhere that they're trying to go.

00:23:45.000 But he knows that the good faith of those other people means that they're not going to do it.

00:23:49.000 So he can get away with it and he gets there.

00:23:51.000 And once you have kind of allowed that to metastasize and become normal for certain people or even, you know, it can spread.

00:23:58.000 I mean the real frightening thing that people have been talking about for a long time is that what happens when the right starts acting this way?

00:24:05.000 Now, they have a, you know, there are reasons that they wouldn't.

00:24:08.000 Ideologically, maybe.

00:24:10.000 There are also, obviously, we see January 6.

00:24:13.000 There are law enforcement reasons why they wouldn't do it.

00:24:15.000 They get treated very differently.

00:24:16.000 But if they just decided to ignore that stuff and they started responding to things violently and they started showing up to judges' homes they didn't like, at that point, You've lost control, and the only way to regain control is to probably use a pretty extraordinary amount of force, because you have a bunch of people who don't think that you're going to do it.

00:24:38.000 I don't think that could solve it.

00:24:40.000 If the federal government or law enforcement cracks down on the left and the right, it would just exacerbate the hyperpolarization. So you have January 6. It's

00:24:53.000 bad. I mean, people should not have rioted. The people who mindlessly trespassed when the

00:24:56.000 cops opened the door for them shouldn't have, in my opinion, been charged because these are the Maga

00:25:01.000 Mimas. Already one guy got his charges dropped because the judge was like, the cops let you in.

00:25:06.000 What am I supposed to do about that?

00:25:08.000 There's going to be a lot more like that, but there are a lot of violent people who should

00:25:11.000 be charged. So that's bad. You see people who are facing solitary confinement, people who have been

00:25:16.000 been locked up for over a year for this.

00:25:19.000 Then you look at the left.

00:25:20.000 You had the insurrection on January 20th, 2017, where hundreds of people were running through the streets, smashing things, starting fires, torched a limousine.

00:25:29.000 These people not only had their charges dropped, the city was forced to pay out to them in a lawsuit.

00:25:36.000 Now, you can chalk a lot of this to the fact that the left has organizational power and collectivist power they've been dealing with for a long time.

00:25:44.000 But when you see The FBI agents going to Bubba Wallace's, I think that's his name, right?

00:25:48.000 The NASCAR guy over a garage pole rope.

00:25:50.000 Yeah.

00:25:52.000 But then you see these people show up to judges' homes, and there's no law enforcement action, or the people who are throwing firebombs at federal buildings, some of which have been charged, mind you, but many who haven't, it is lopsided.

00:26:04.000 The right gets angry and says, we have no justice.

00:26:07.000 If the right starts acting out, which they did on January 6th, and then the boot comes down on them, which it did, What you have done is you have struck through the heart confidence in the American system.

00:26:18.000 If there is no justice for me, then what's the point of participation?

00:26:23.000 Yeah, well, and so you mentioned that there were certain individuals there who basically had the doors open for them by the police.

00:26:29.000 They walked through.

00:26:30.000 I think a large section of the country knows that at this point.

00:26:34.000 They also know that there were people who didn't engage in any kind of misconduct of any sort who were put on trial.

00:26:41.000 So, for example, we have Marjorie Taylor Greene is a fantastic example who was, I believe they were trying to smear her as an insurrectionist and actually get her charged so that she could not run in her state.

00:26:51.000 The idea is to get people who would otherwise protest peacefully or be involved in, you know, trying to bring about civic change to just stay home so long as they have a certain perspective.

00:27:02.000 And of course, that perspective is a conservative one.

00:27:05.000 I want to bring up this op-ed from over at TimCast.com from Josie, the redhead libertarian.

00:27:10.000 She writes, If you're pro-abortion after Viability and ever wondered if you would have been an abolitionist, I have some bad news for you.

00:27:18.000 She makes an interesting point about Roe v. Wade and Casey, and that basically Roe actually did entertain the conversation around Viability.

00:27:27.000 Quote, This is from Roe v. Wade.

00:27:30.000 As we have intimated above, it is reasonable and appropriate for a state to decide that

00:27:34.000 at some point in time, potential human life becomes significantly involved.

00:27:38.000 The woman's privacy is no longer sole, and any right of privacy she possesses must be 1.00

00:27:43.000 measured accordingly.

00:27:45.000 And according to Roe, the 14th's right to privacy clause is not absolute regarding pregnancy.

00:27:50.000 Although the results are divided, most of these courts have agreed that the right of privacy, however based, is broad enough to cover the abortion decision, that the right, nonetheless, is not absolute and is subject to some limitations, and that at some point the state's interests as to protection of health, medical standards, and prenatal life become dominant, we agree with this approach.

00:28:09.000 Josie writes, so once again, according to Rowe, we have a clear understanding that a baby is a baby at viability and it's fair for states to regulate proposed termination if they so choose.

00:28:19.000 We also have a clear understanding, thanks to Rowe, that a mother's personhood may not be absolute at that point in some states and it's fair for states to regulate proposed termination of a baby if they so choose.

00:28:30.000 Roe had limited abortion in the first trimester, but thanks to Planned Parenthood v. Casey, that part of Roe was overturned.

00:28:36.000 So states can already do what they want, barring absolute bans of the practice.

00:28:40.000 Emotional arguments aside, this is an extreme, unpopular, and highly unlikely outcome, no matter how many legislators co-sponsor the bill.

00:28:47.000 In terms of property rights, historically people in some states rejected the idea that they did not have ownership over another human, even when the laws in other states said, yes, this person is a human here.

00:28:58.000 When they believed a separate human belonged to them, that this separate human was less than human, and that they could do with that human as they pleased, but by no hyperbole, that was slavery.

00:29:08.000 Here's my thoughts on this, we mentioned last week.

00:29:12.000 Almost every instance I can think of when there has been an attempt to expand personhood, constitutional rights to a group of people, that has ultimately played out.

00:29:21.000 And we've seen that actually with the trans argument.

00:29:23.000 States across the country are now entertaining gender identity as a protected class, even at the federal level in many ways they're doing it.

00:29:30.000 So this happens.

00:29:32.000 Why would babies be the one exception to this tendency throughout history?

00:29:37.000 In which case it seems That the only likely outcome is going to be abortion becoming banned based on the historical trends.

00:29:44.000 I mean, it's it's gender as a protected class is a slippery slope because you can if someone's able to choose their gender at will and then gain a protection of some sort of legally, that's complete insanity.

00:29:56.000 So I don't know what's happening.

00:29:58.000 I think if we're talking about viability, baby viability, and as viability is getting less and less, it's getting shorter and shorter.

00:30:04.000 Like now a five month old baby can be born into a incubator and live there for three months.

00:30:09.000 And then as it matures, but if the, I don't know if that's really considered viability because if the plug comes out, then the baby dies and like, Well, it's an interesting question.

00:30:19.000 It's if the baby can survive independent of a mother.

00:30:22.000 I mean, there are people who their kidneys fail and they need dialysis, but they're still considered viable human beings.

00:30:29.000 So the issue is, as technology progresses, viability will extend all the way to day one, I'd imagine, eventually.

00:30:34.000 In fact, day zero, we'll probably be able to... We've already grown, I think, sheep in bags.

00:30:39.000 So certainly, the same could be done for humans, it's just an ethical question of, you know, we should not do that.

00:30:45.000 So I think we're... That's like a step of like, they might start harvesting women's eggs in ovulation because they are viable.

00:30:52.000 That's crazy.

00:30:52.000 Psycho.

00:30:53.000 You can't do that.

00:30:54.000 Well, an egg is... Yeah, there's a difference between an egg and a zygote, right?

00:30:57.000 They cannot allow it to... Well, the difference is it's unfertilized, but it doesn't mean it can't become a human.

00:31:01.000 Yeah, but once the sperm enters and you have like a completely unique set of human DNA, I don't think that there's anyone who argues...

00:31:06.000 The only people who argue that an egg cell is equivalent to a zygote are pro-choicers who are trying to strawman pro-lifers.

00:31:14.000 What about birth control?

00:31:15.000 Why is the church so against birth control?

00:31:17.000 Because the purpose of human sexuality is unity and procreation, and birth control perverts one of those purposes.

00:31:23.000 It's not because there is an act of murder which occurs, which is what we see with abortion. 0.88

00:31:30.000 It's for very different reasons.

00:31:31.000 So when we talk about viability, I'm just concerned about the technological aspect of the viability.

00:31:35.000 I get it like if the mom's not around, the baby's gonna die until it's like 11.

00:31:38.000 You know, a baby, a child can't take care of itself.

00:31:40.000 But if you're talking about a breathing machine, that's a different story.

00:31:43.000 But I think this question of viability plays exactly into what I was thinking last week with the inevitability of abortion being banned.

00:31:50.000 If technology progresses to the point where a baby is viable the moment of conception through an artificial womb, and there's a question actually in row about at what point viability makes this life-form a person under the Constitution and worthy of protection, If their initial assessment was, well, by the second trimester, you've got a baby with a heartbeat and a brain and all that stuff, so its rights are now in play here, well then, if the baby is viable from day zero, the moment of conception, then why would we ever allow abortion?

00:32:23.000 At that point, once technology gets to that point, it seems like... I'll put it this way.

00:32:27.000 The question of trans rights only exists because of the invention, the isolation of hormones.

00:32:32.000 Before we actually knew what hormones were and how to get them, there were people who identified as trans, but there was no hormone replacement therapy.

00:32:42.000 Now that we have that, we have a question constitutionally about how far this can go, and ultimately we're seeing states starting to enact gender identity protections.

00:32:51.000 Technology is going to do the same thing for human life in terms of abortion. 1.00

00:32:54.000 I think the end result is abortion gets banned.

00:32:55.000 I've always fantasized about some future scenario where they actually isolate the gay gene, the gene that makes you a homosexual, and then conservatives start aborting all their gay babies, and then you have all the people on the left actually coming out and protesting against abortion and trying to ban it. 0.88

00:33:12.000 That would be interesting. 0.90

00:33:13.000 I honestly, I don't think conservatives would do that.

00:33:16.000 Yeah, I don't.

00:33:16.000 I don't either.

00:33:17.000 Or is there, there's not actually a gay gene.

00:33:19.000 I don't think.

00:33:19.000 No.

00:33:20.000 I'm living a fantasy.

00:33:22.000 I've been workshopping this theory and you guys are welcome to disagree with me, but one of the reasons that human infants are born and it's so difficult is because their heads are huge And the reason that they're born so early is because, unlike baby giraffes and baby elephants, we don't just get squeezed out on the savannah and start running immediately, because we have huge brains.

00:33:44.000 This is part of the reason why you could potentially argue that a three-year-old child is not viable, because if you leave a three-year-old child to its own devices, it will die in relatively short order, it will starve, it's unable to feed itself, or whatever.

00:33:55.000 Or be raised by wolves.

00:33:57.000 I mean, that's possible.

00:33:57.000 Oh, yeah, exactly.

00:33:58.000 It's happening.

00:33:59.000 Exactly, no, and start a city called Rome or something.

00:34:04.000 I also, viability is a very bizarre way of determining when a person should get rights for a number of reasons, but I think most importantly because one of the entire, like, if not almost the entire reason that we recognize rights politically is to protect the weak from the strong.

00:34:20.000 So the more vulnerable a person is, the more necessary it is to extend rights to them.

00:34:26.000 So to look at viability and say they're actually particularly vulnerable at this point, so we're not going to extend the right to life to them.

00:34:34.000 Is completely self-defeating.

00:34:35.000 It's a luxurious way of looking at it in like tribal society, old war society. 0.98

00:34:39.000 The most vulnerable will be killed off immediately because they're going to hold the tribe back and get it killed.

00:34:43.000 Exactly. 0.87

00:34:44.000 Their rights were not recognized.

00:34:45.000 But we don't want to live in a society where somebody is killed because they're quote unquote holding us back or because they require more resources or because they can't produce as much.

00:34:53.000 And Ian, this is not Sparta.

00:34:56.000 No, that's right.

00:34:57.000 You said it like a Spartan, Tim.

00:34:59.000 It's madness!

00:35:01.000 Well, you can't do it aggressively because the joke is it's not Sparta.

00:35:05.000 This is not Sparta.

00:35:07.000 The baby would be born, like, put in the woods for like a day, and if it didn't survive, they're like, it was weak!

00:35:12.000 I guess viability maybe is can the baby breathe on its own?

00:35:16.000 After you suction out its lungs, can it just lay there and breathe?

00:35:19.000 There are people with no lungs.

00:35:20.000 There are people who have lung damage and they get put on special machines.

00:35:23.000 So like for a healthy baby, not for one with a deformity, but like a healthy, fully formed baby, at what stage of its gestation can it start to breathe on its own?

00:35:32.000 There are people who are born missing certain vital organs and we find ways for them to survive and live.

00:35:39.000 But those are the, I mean, specifically for like healthy term babies that are five months or four months.

00:35:43.000 I don't think that's, I don't think you can define viability based on that criteria.

00:35:48.000 Well, if you have like a loved one on a machine and they can't breathe, you can pull the plug.

00:35:52.000 And if you have a guy with a pacemaker or you have someone with insulin shots, like, come on, that's not an argument.

00:35:59.000 There are diabetic people who have insulin pumps Bluetooth, with tubes going into their bellies, and that machine is keeping them alive.

00:36:07.000 Well, they can make the choice for themselves.

00:36:09.000 It's the people that can't make... What about a baby? 1.00

00:36:11.000 Babies and people that have no brain.

00:36:14.000 Basically, they can't choose for themselves, so other people have to decide, are they going to pull the plug?

00:36:17.000 And other people decide, are they going to abort the thing?

00:36:19.000 I don't think you can define... I don't think viability is a criteria for rights or anything like that.

00:36:23.000 I just don't see it.

00:36:24.000 I mean, you can pull the plug on someone that's in a vegetable state.

00:36:27.000 You can pull the plug on a diabetic.

00:36:29.000 If they're unconscious, maybe.

00:36:30.000 No, no.

00:36:31.000 A six-year-old does not get insulin.

00:36:33.000 You've got to provide it to them and make sure you're the one administering it.

00:36:36.000 If you don't give your six-year-old insulin and it dies?

00:36:36.000 I think that's murder.

00:36:40.000 If you have a baby on a ventilator and you shut the ventilator off, that's murder.

00:36:43.000 If it doesn't have brain access, it can't make that decision, so someone else has to do it for them.

00:36:47.000 A six-year-old can't make the decision either.

00:36:49.000 Well, technically they can.

00:36:50.000 They have brain activity.

00:36:51.000 I'm just talking about people without brain activity or like babies in the womb where you can't communicate with them. 0.72

00:36:55.000 There are people who experiences loss of brain function and go into comas for very long periods of time and they recover.

00:37:02.000 So it's like, if you unplug them, you're killing them.

00:37:05.000 And the challenge morally is that sometimes we're like, is this person going to recover?

00:37:08.000 And people have to make a hard decision about whether we say it's time or it's not.

00:37:13.000 And the scary thing is sometimes after long periods of time, years, people do recover.

00:37:17.000 So do you want to be the person pulling the plug?

00:37:20.000 But my point is it's legal to pull the plug in those situations.

00:37:23.000 And when, if it's someone that's healthy, it's not legal to have them killed.

00:37:27.000 And an unborn child is healthy and they're developing, they're just not at a stage of development where they can make choices.

00:37:31.000 So that's a different scenario.

00:37:33.000 So in the environment of if they're taken out of the womb at four and a half months, they're not going to be healthy.

00:37:38.000 But if you remove them from the womb, yeah, I mean, they're perfectly healthy at that stage of development.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, but relative to their environment.

00:37:46.000 And that's also part of why you can't remove them.

00:37:48.000 I mean, you can't remove someone from an environment where they're perfectly healthy and say, you know what, I'm not going to give you the treatment that you need given the fact that I just stripped you from the environment that's good for you.

00:37:56.000 I think the legal argument would then be, oh, you can remove them so long as you replace 100% with what you've taken from them.

00:38:01.000 Right.

00:38:02.000 So if we get to the point technologically where a baby can, at whatever stage, be it one week, two weeks, or even one day, be placed in an artificial womb, I think the termination of the baby becomes illegal outright.

00:38:13.000 Now, abortion, in some sense, like the removing of the baby from the woman, I think becomes overtly legal at all stages at that point, because then the baby will always survive. 0.95

00:38:21.000 Right.

00:38:22.000 I truly believe if they do that one day one, you can take it out and put it in a machine that it's going to lead to people harvesting eggs and saying you cannot ovulate.

00:38:30.000 It is illegal for you to ovulate.

00:38:32.000 Oh, come on, man.

00:38:33.000 Now, that's that's absurd.

00:38:35.000 I know it sounds absurd, but the CCP does stuff like that.

00:38:38.000 Well, I mean, yeah, maybe the CCP might do crazy stuff.

00:38:40.000 Like if we start legislating, they have to give this one day old thing to the, to the, to the world.

00:38:46.000 And then like, why not day zero?

00:38:48.000 Why not day negative one?

00:38:49.000 Because the point would be when life begins at conception.

00:38:52.000 But those eggs are alive, they're just not human fertilized yet.

00:38:56.000 It's living tissue.

00:38:57.000 It's when an egg is fertilized, Ian.

00:39:01.000 When a man loves a woman.

00:39:02.000 Yes.

00:39:03.000 Life begins at conception.

00:39:04.000 An egg is a component of the creation of life, but it is not the life.

00:39:09.000 Well, it's a piece of living meat, or whatever it is.

00:39:12.000 The egg itself.

00:39:13.000 I don't know what it's composed of.

00:39:14.000 I think the question is, there's no potential.

00:39:15.000 There's no potential life.

00:39:17.000 That's what it is, is potential life.

00:39:19.000 No, only when it meets with the sperm, and then it becomes fertilized. 0.80

00:39:22.000 Then it's kinetic life.

00:39:23.000 So, like, I got eggs from the chickens.

00:39:24.000 They sit on the shelf until they rot and explode.

00:39:27.000 There's no potential there unless they're fertilized.

00:39:29.000 Oh, I disagree.

00:39:29.000 And even if they're fertilized, they require specific conditions.

00:39:32.000 But anyway, let's let's let's let's move on.

00:39:34.000 I think we'll just.

00:39:35.000 I mean, what do you think?

00:39:36.000 You've been listening.

00:39:37.000 Well, I think this is an obviously an incredibly complex moral question.

00:39:41.000 Right.

00:39:41.000 Which is why I think the conservative perspective on this is not to seek a maximalist position, trying to ban abortion or drive it back to the first day after fertilization.

00:39:51.000 But to recognize the complexity of it, recognize that there are probably irreconcilable views that people are going to have and allow Alabama and New York to have different abortion laws that they work out through the discourse and their democratic processes.

00:40:08.000 You know, it's I think it's it's going back to the idea of like conservative, the way conservatives look at politics as something that is that we engage in to make sure that we all wake up tomorrow.

00:40:18.000 We're not killing each other.

00:40:19.000 I think that's, in that sense, the conservative way of approaching it.

00:40:23.000 I mean, because we, like, if the way humans gave birth was a woman got fertilized, and then the egg, like, popped out, and then you put it in a plastic bag in the fridge, and then it grew into a human, like, after that.

00:40:34.000 That was just how humans, you know, evolved, say, to, then we wouldn't allow abortion at all.

00:40:39.000 You would have it there in the bag that came out the first day, and we'd be like, no, you can't flush that thing down the toilet.

00:40:44.000 We'll take it, or whatever.

00:40:46.000 But you can't do that to it.

00:40:48.000 This question only becomes really relevant because you're dealing with a very real rights claim.

00:40:54.000 You know, a woman's right to control what goes on with her body. 1.00

00:40:57.000 That is a... however anybody feels about abortion.

00:41:01.000 You have lots of people, I think, libertarian types maybe, who are anti-abortion, but they're very, like, they want to end the drug war because they think that a person wants to put something into their body, then they should be able to.

00:41:12.000 It's bodily autonomy.

00:41:14.000 It's a real argument that You know, that conservatives, I think, have more recently done a better job of dealing with.

00:41:22.000 But it's something that, you know, it does have to be dealt with.

00:41:24.000 I mean, you're talking about, you know, just basic basic rights when you're talking about somebody's ability to control what happens with their body.

00:41:33.000 I want to jump to this post here from our good friends over at 2xChromosomes on Reddit.

00:41:38.000 A top post says, delete your dating apps.

00:41:42.000 No more women on dating apps is the only language men speak. 0.99

00:41:45.000 Plus, the less time you spend on Tinder, the more time you can spend protesting at the courthouse.

00:41:50.000 Edit.

00:41:51.000 To all men coming on here crying about how you're against this, of course you are.

00:41:54.000 That's the point.

00:41:55.000 F off.

00:41:56.000 You know what I love about this?

00:41:57.000 The kind of guy that's going to go to these women and be like, please don't leave the dating app.

00:42:03.000 But I'm for abortion. 0.62

00:42:06.000 I'm an ally.

00:42:07.000 I'm an ally.

00:42:08.000 Good guy.

00:42:09.000 They're just angering their own side.

00:42:11.000 These men who are doing what they want.

00:42:14.000 Meanwhile, conservatives are like, no, wait, don't.

00:42:17.000 Don't delete your dating apps.

00:42:19.000 Well, I mean, look, it just goes to show you that feminists don't like male feminists either. 1.00

00:42:25.000 Yeah, I mean, who does?

00:42:26.000 Who doesn't?

00:42:27.000 No, but I think it's funny that this is the consistent argument.

00:42:29.000 So we have, uh, this one post says, I deleted mine a while ago, but before this leak, I was just starting to consider trying again.

00:42:35.000 I'll stick to a vibrator in my imagination.

00:42:35.000 Nope, F it.

00:42:38.000 Mr. Buzzy can't get me pregnant, can't lie about not having an STI, doesn't care if I also see Mr. Rabbit or look at a Hitachi at the store.

00:42:47.000 Yo, this is... There's, there's... What's the right word?

00:42:51.000 I don't want to say... they're crazy. 0.93

00:42:55.000 But they're kind of crazy to not understand the nuance in what's happening here. 0.97

00:43:01.000 That they don't know what conservatives think about this. 0.81

00:43:05.000 They've probably never even spoken to someone who is anti-abortion about what's really going on and why they think it.

00:43:10.000 And the fact that these women probably live in blue states. 1.00

00:43:14.000 I genuinely do not understand.

00:43:16.000 I don't believe they actually know what they're arguing for or against.

00:43:20.000 Do you think that's what they're doing outside the Supreme Court Justice Houses?

00:43:23.000 They're like deleting Tinder?

00:43:24.000 They're like, look Kevin, now you're not going to see me.

00:43:27.000 You're going to be able to swipe.

00:43:30.000 Delete.

00:43:30.000 There are so many examples of the left circling back and coming back to traditional like social positions through like a back door.

00:43:39.000 You know, I remember a few months ago, I was listening to Jordan Peterson interview this child psychologist from Canada.

00:43:45.000 Apparently, he's a big wig. 0.97

00:43:46.000 He won, like, the Nobel Prize of Child Psychology or whatever.

00:43:49.000 And he deals with designing state interventions for children in disadvantaged homes and studies, like, how this affects their antisocial behavior, their violent behavior and stuff as they get older.

00:44:01.000 And so he's describing how all these different programs would work, and he's describing this one in the middle.

00:44:07.000 He says, so what we'll do is we'll have a social worker that'll come into the house, you know, of a single mother who maybe, you know, doesn't have any experience, doesn't really know, like, how to handle certain things when the kid does this or does that, how they're trying to communicate.

00:44:18.000 And the social worker will be there who has this experience, who can kind of tell them, like, oh, this is what the kid is trying to do, and, like, kind of walk them through these processes.

00:44:27.000 And Peterson kind of pauses for a minute, and he goes, Well, that sounds like a grandmother.

00:44:32.000 And it's like, then I realized everything he had been describing were just bureaucratic replacements for all of the things that have been lost over the last several decades.

00:44:42.000 And that was one of them.

00:44:43.000 And it just sort of happens that way.

00:44:47.000 I want to mention there's also an additional component to this.

00:44:49.000 You're correct that the left will end up in a roundabout way rediscovering some form of social conservatism or traditionalism.

00:44:55.000 And then at that point, the right starts defending whatever it is the left was pushing for 50 years ago.

00:45:00.000 And so, historically, before we just had these, like, isolated nuclear families, people did tend to live with their older relatives.

00:45:09.000 Their older aunts or uncles or, you know, parents were still living with them, helping them with the children.

00:45:15.000 And now we're at a point where people are putting their father or mother in a nursing home when it's unnecessary, just because they don't want to deal with them, and they're calling themselves pro-family conservatives.

00:45:25.000 Have you seen now what the far right is pushing?

00:45:29.000 This is how it gets here.

00:45:30.000 They want this insane meme of rejecting modernity and returning to tradition.

00:45:36.000 You're gonna be shocked by what I'm gonna show you.

00:45:38.000 In a tweet from Jack Posobiec, he says, remember what they took from you in this shocking image!

00:45:45.000 It's Pizza Hut!

00:45:47.000 And the Pac-Man machine, Book It, the Red Cups, the little dinosaurs, Care Bears, the Pizza Hut lamp.

00:45:56.000 So Jack has been going on this, what is it, Pizza Hut nationalism thing?

00:45:59.000 He loves Pizza Hut.

00:46:00.000 Where it's like, Pizza Hut used to be great, and now it's, basically, I'm kidding, by the way, about the far-right stuff.

00:46:06.000 the uh oh the weird pizza claymation or whatever it was he was telling a story how how he what he took his kids to pizza hut because he remembered what it was like when he was a kid and it was just trash there was garbage everywhere it was messy he was like what is this And, you know, I'll say he's obviously joking to quite a bit, but there is a bit of truth into what he's saying, that there were things that we had that were nice that are now gone, that have fallen apart.

00:46:32.000 And you mentioned it was a bureaucratic replacement.

00:46:36.000 Daryl, you're talking about a grandmother and the state's replacement.

00:46:39.000 I kind of feel like that's where we're going, where Pizza still exists, but you go inside and it's a dry shell, lacking flavor, lacking anything other than you sit down, here's your pizza, get out.

00:46:53.000 The same thing happened after the 1960s.

00:46:55.000 You go to like 1973 is when George Lucas, who was part of the New Directors Movement, like these rebellious Dennis Hopper, like all these new director types in the late 60s, Easy Rider, all that.

00:47:05.000 George Lucas in 1973 makes American Graffiti, which is sort of, it began the sort of the cult of 1950s nostalgia, right?

00:47:14.000 I don't know if you guys have ever seen it.

00:47:15.000 It's like as much of a stereotypical kind of 1950s childhood movie as you can imagine.

00:47:20.000 And he was open about why he did it. 0.97

00:47:22.000 He said, because everything that comes out now is depressing and it sucks.

00:47:25.000 And for the last several years, every film that's come out has just told us 0.56

00:47:29.000 how bad we are, how evil the war is, et cetera, et cetera.

00:47:32.000 And I just didn't want any more of that.

00:47:34.000 And I don't think a lot of other people do too.

00:47:35.000 And it started that trend.

00:47:37.000 Happy Days came out a year or two later after that.

00:47:39.000 And for us, I think, we're kind of going through a similar thing in the 80s and the early 90s

00:47:44.000 or kind of our 1950s, you know?

00:47:46.000 There's that 70s show, which was the late 90s, right?

00:47:49.000 Yep.

00:47:50.000 And the funny thing is, I think, is this true that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:47:53.000 that 70s show was closer to the time period when it was released than we are to the 90s now.

00:47:59.000 Yeah, because, you know.

00:47:59.000 Ugh, gross.

00:48:01.000 So they're actually, they're doing a reboot, I think.

00:48:03.000 Aren't they doing a reboot of that 90s show?

00:48:04.000 And it's about the cast of that 70s show.

00:48:07.000 They tried to do that 80s show.

00:48:08.000 Do you remember that?

00:48:09.000 Yeah, that was... Oh, I thought you were going to say no.

00:48:11.000 No, but I think it might just be that people have nostalgia for when they were kids and they always thought it was better.

00:48:16.000 Well, that and it looks like Yum!

00:48:17.000 Food Brands bought, I don't know if they bought Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and KFC in 97.

00:48:21.000 China!

00:48:22.000 Basically this Tricon Global Restaurants incorporated in 97, 1997.

00:48:28.000 It came out of PepsiCo.

00:48:29.000 It's kind of obfuscated as to who owns what here, but I think they all got merged and corporatized.

00:48:34.000 I just gotta point out that I have fond memories of going to pizza when I was a kid.

00:48:38.000 When you would get the bucket thing, you'd get the little wheel or whatever with all the things you win and you go in and you get like a little pizza because you read the books or whatever.

00:48:46.000 And Jack is obviously making a, you know, he's being silly about it.

00:48:51.000 But there are, there are people on the left that are really upset about Jack's statements about pizza that genuinely confuse me.

00:48:59.000 It was fun going to pizza when we were kids. 0.94

00:49:01.000 Everything else is meant to be more silly and a joke, but talking about how, you know, we, the things we did back then, we don't do anymore and it kind of sucks.

00:49:09.000 And times won't stay the same forever, but it's just funny how angry they got.

00:49:13.000 Well, people, they hate fun.

00:49:17.000 People, I disagree.

00:49:18.000 I think they're addicted to it.

00:49:19.000 People have nostalgia for their childhoods all the time, obviously, because your childhood was the time before everything got so complicated.

00:49:24.000 But that is also true, like, on a real societal level in this particular age, you know, as well.

00:49:30.000 Like, I don't know how old all of you guys are exactly, but I'm, like, right at that age where I was, you know, right in that sweet spot where I lived enough of my life, about 20 years before I ever really got on the internet, I kind of knew about it and I would, you know... How old are you?

00:49:44.000 I'm 40.

00:49:44.000 Okay, and so right right at that age where you have enough experience of the world what it was like before everybody

00:49:50.000 had smartphones and everything and yet you're young enough that you can just you can pick

00:49:53.000 it up and you can learn it and you can kind of Get fully integrated and you know, it has it's radically

00:49:59.000 changed things and I think it's made things more complicated

00:50:01.000 These kids today will not know the joy of hearing the phone ring and racing your sibling full speed to try and answer

00:50:09.000 it first Or watching something on television and having to go grab your snack during the commercial break.

00:50:17.000 Actually, to be honest though, that is coming back to a lot of streaming services.

00:50:20.000 Real quick, there's a funny post.

00:50:23.000 Where someone said, the kids today will never know the joy of rushing to the kitchen to grab snacks during a commercial break and your sibling yelling, it's on.

00:50:30.000 And then it was on Tumblr.

00:50:30.000 That's right.

00:50:32.000 Someone said they couldn't just pause it.

00:50:34.000 And then someone said, oh, my sweet summer child.

00:50:36.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:50:38.000 But I will say, I do think there's more to it than nostalgia.

00:50:41.000 So you mentioned the filmmakers of the 70s, and I've heard it said that part of why Star Wars was so successful, and I'm not really much of a fan, but I've heard it argued part of why it was successful is because in that era in the 60s and 70s so much of what was being produced was depressing but also sort of morally ambiguous they didn't want to have a clear-cut good guy bad guy narrative but Star Wars leaned very heavily into that and now you see a lot of fans arguing online on Twitter that we need to have the Grey Jedi and

00:51:10.000 This series needs to be more about moral ambiguity, even though a huge part of what made it successful was the fact that they were willing to draw clear lines between what's good and bad.

00:51:18.000 It was kind of a story of Christ, Star Wars, the first one.

00:51:20.000 Luke was fighting against the Empire like Jesus did, and he had magic powers like Christ did and stuff like that.

00:51:26.000 Well, it's a hero's journey.

00:51:27.000 The hero's journey is very much.

00:51:28.000 But I want to make a point, there's a meme where the NPC guy says, who radicalized you?

00:51:33.000 And then the Chad guy says, I'm just a normal person from 10 years ago.

00:51:37.000 A bunch of people on the left were like, see that proves you're conservative.

00:51:40.000 And I'm just like, bro, top surgery for 14 year old girls?

00:51:45.000 There's a big difference between being progressive and just like having no control.

00:51:49.000 And my point was, the eugenics movement of the progressives in the 1900s died and was considered amoral or immoral and unethical.

00:51:57.000 Just because you think, just because the progressives Think they're going to win doesn't mean their ideas are good.

00:52:04.000 And just because you oppose them doesn't mean you're a conservative.

00:52:07.000 Technically, I'd argue if you're a progressive, you hold values from the early 1900s.

00:52:11.000 That sounds a bit conservative.

00:52:13.000 Artificial insemination is eugenics. 0.99

00:52:15.000 I brought this up before and people messaged me and were like, thank you.

00:52:18.000 That kind of got glazed over.

00:52:19.000 Well, unless you mate with the very first sexually available person you meet, then you're kind of a eugenicist.

00:52:26.000 Well, but I mean, Any selectivity at all is like, you're doing a little personal selectivity.

00:52:31.000 But hold on, look at women going to sperm banks and then getting a catalogue of the males to choose from, right? 0.95

00:52:39.000 So, I understand the argument that a woman will make her choices, but eugenics, I think, is better defined by preventing people from procreating. 0.95

00:52:48.000 Yeah.

00:52:50.000 I think it's choosing who they procreate with.

00:52:52.000 Whether it's no one or...

00:52:53.000 Eugenics was about good breeding. 0.99

00:52:54.000 The idea was that you would have the best possible breeding.

00:52:58.000 Now obviously men and women both select their mates.

00:53:01.000 So when a woman goes to a sperm bank and she's like, here's the catalog of men, it's like 0.81

00:53:05.000 a guy wearing a suit, it's like IQ 145 and he's six figure salary.

00:53:10.000 It's an extreme version of female selection, which I don't, it's like okay, it's a weird 0.99

00:53:13.000 modernity thing.

00:53:15.000 But I think eugenics is really sour and bad when it was like we must prevent this group 1.00

00:53:19.000 from having kids or terminate the children that may have these traits.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, that's the ugly head of eugenics, that's for sure. 1.00

00:53:28.000 Mate selection, I think, is normal and fine.

00:53:30.000 You know, a woman's gonna be like, honestly, dude, you're like, I don't wanna have a baby with you. 1.00

00:53:34.000 It's like, well, that's life.

00:53:35.000 It used to be, like, the parents would choose who the kids married for most of history, I think.

00:53:41.000 And we found that to be wrong.

00:53:44.000 You know, we did away with eugenics in terms of parents choosing who their kids would marry and dowries and all that.

00:53:51.000 And then we also decided you should stop people from having kids, which is what Margaret Sanger wanted to do. 1.00

00:53:57.000 I mean, look, whatever you want to argue about from the left, they want to say she wasn't racially refined, but she did argue literally and fought very hard to stop certain people from having kids.

00:54:06.000 Yeah, no, she was absolutely racist and she was eugenicist. 1.00

00:54:09.000 But I wouldn't argue that arranged marriage is eugenics because they were not selecting the partner for their child necessarily on the basis of something like genetic fitness.

00:54:18.000 It could be this is a morally virtuous person and so I want my child to marry them.

00:54:22.000 Or the dad is rich.

00:54:24.000 Right.

00:54:24.000 Yeah.

00:54:25.000 It depended on the choice of the parent.

00:54:27.000 They could be like, I want you to have the most beautiful wife, but usually it was for money. 1.00

00:54:31.000 I mean, when it came to the royal families, they did not care for genetics at all.

00:54:35.000 So I wouldn't call that eugenics.

00:54:36.000 Yeah.

00:54:36.000 It's about, um, land rights and stuff.

00:54:38.000 They want the wife to have ownership. 1.00

00:54:41.000 Like she's going to get the county of Brussels.

00:54:43.000 So I'm going to marry her to the, my son who has the kingdom of England and then they'll consolidate power. 0.62

00:54:48.000 All these Kings in World War I were cousins?

00:54:50.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:54:50.000 So ridiculous. 0.98

00:54:51.000 That's what I hear. 0.76

00:54:52.000 Before we go too far away from this Pizza Hut thing, Yum Food Brands was spun up to purchase KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut, and the top owners of Yum Food Brands are Vanguard, Black Rock at 4%, State Street at 4%, T-Row Price Associates.

00:55:07.000 Dude, I just wanna... When people say that meme reject modernity, embrace tradition, the one thing I will say I mentioned before, when you're a tourist in key parts of the world, and you come to the famous downtown area of some city in some faraway country, and it's McDonald's, Starbucks, Gucci, Hard Rock Cafe, you just throw up a little bit.

00:55:27.000 You're just like, what is this?

00:55:29.000 Is this it?

00:55:30.000 The world will have nothing left to offer us?

00:55:33.000 There's no adventure, there's no diversity. 1.00

00:55:36.000 You know, the left talks about diversity all day and night, but I tell you, when I went to the Bahamas and I was like, I guess I'll go to Starbucks, I'm like, that's not fun.

00:55:43.000 The weird thing is when you're in another country and they only have like little like coffee shops where they make the coffee and they're burning the bean and it doesn't taste, you're like, oh, this is all, then you see a Starbucks.

00:55:51.000 It's like an oasis in the desert.

00:55:53.000 And you're like, I can get a standardized thing that I know what it's going to taste like.

00:55:55.000 Thank God.

00:55:56.000 And you go there and you get a real coffee, just exactly like it always tastes.

00:55:59.000 And that's the upside of this dude.

00:56:02.000 Standardization.

00:56:02.000 Yeah.

00:56:03.000 Like I'm going to, I'll tell you this.

00:56:05.000 If I am in some small, faraway country, and their burgers are weird and gross, I still will not go to McDonald's.

00:56:13.000 Not McDonald's.

00:56:14.000 Starbucks is decent.

00:56:16.000 Starbucks is... Starbucks cold brew actually really good.

00:56:19.000 I think they have quality coffee.

00:56:20.000 I gotta do that.

00:56:22.000 Starbucks cold brew is good. 1.00

00:56:22.000 McDonald's though is trash. 1.00

00:56:24.000 I don't like Starbucks coffee though. 0.99

00:56:25.000 I don't think of Starbucks as fast food, really.

00:56:27.000 I don't ever eat their food, really.

00:56:28.000 So I wanted to say before we move on for this Pizza Hut thing, I would think that nostalgia would be the one thing that would be truly bipartisan, that everybody of about the same age would really resonate with.

00:56:40.000 But you were talking about the sinews that hold people together at a very low level. 0.99

00:56:44.000 I think this is one of those things.

00:56:45.000 The fact that we can't even agree on some kind of fond childhood memory is kind of crushing to watch.

00:56:51.000 Like that's distressing that we don't even agree about that.

00:56:54.000 What's wrong with us?

00:56:55.000 I, I think, uh, I think childhood today is being destroyed on purpose.

00:57:03.000 I think we, as millennials, have a kind of shared experience in these cultural phenomena from when we were little, like Book It and Pizza Hut.

00:57:11.000 So when Jack Posobiec posts the Red Cups and the Little Pan Pizzas, many of us go, I remember that.

00:57:17.000 Even if it was just one time you went because your school gave you those little things, like if you read enough books, the teacher would sign off and then Pizza Hut would give you a little free pizza so you'd get it.

00:57:25.000 That's a shared cultural experience.

00:57:27.000 Now what do we have?

00:57:28.000 The shared cultural experience is all like the weird stuff kids are being taught in schools.

00:57:32.000 I was just about to bring that up.

00:57:34.000 I mean, childhood has in some way been redistributed to adults.

00:57:38.000 So we've extended adolescence as far as we possibly could.

00:57:42.000 I mean, maybe not as far as we possibly could.

00:57:44.000 We're probably pushing to extend it even further.

00:57:46.000 I've been saying this.

00:57:47.000 They want, they, they, they are, um, preventing adulthood.

00:57:51.000 That's what's happening, whether intentional or not.

00:57:53.000 Puberty blockers preventing adulthood.

00:57:55.000 Millennials have 3%. 0.79

00:57:56.000 Fact check me on this one, but there's a meme going around.

00:57:59.000 It's like millennials have 3% of U S wealth and boomers have 21%. 0.74

00:58:03.000 It's the poorest generation in history. 0.99

00:58:06.000 And, uh, I think it's because boomers are living longer. 0.90

00:58:09.000 And I think it's because millennials were poorly raised. 0.67

00:58:12.000 Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it.

00:58:14.000 I also think that it's the case that when you look at the way children are raised today, I sort of mentioned that we've redistributed childhood, right?

00:58:22.000 Because we prolong adolescence.

00:58:24.000 But on top of that, it's not as if we give to children what was traditionally given to them.

00:58:29.000 So at a very young age, 8, 9, 10 years old, a kid is handed a smartphone.

00:58:34.000 Which is a tool for an adult to use, but they just use it to do unrestrained, irresponsible things.

00:58:41.000 And then they continue to do that until they're 30, instead of using this tool for something productive.

00:58:47.000 So it's very strange and it's a rejection of responsibility, sadly, and no culture can function once that becomes the status quo.

00:58:54.000 Let's poll the audience in a way that unashamedly promotes the show.

00:58:58.000 Smash the like button if you think kids should not have cell phones.

00:59:02.000 There you go.

00:59:04.000 I've been thinking a lot about this because we talk about kids getting access to the internet.

00:59:07.000 What age should they get access to the internet?

00:59:09.000 And what's it going to do to their brain to have all that information blasted at me?

00:59:12.000 And then I started thinking, you know what?

00:59:13.000 That happened to me when I was 26 years old.

00:59:15.000 I got on YouTube and people started hitting me with all this information.

00:59:18.000 So I started looking up the Federal Reserve, fiat currency, the Bank of International Settlements, the American war machine, liberal economic order.

00:59:24.000 And I'm like, wow, we're not...

00:59:25.000 I went insane.

00:59:27.000 Society would have classified me as insane.

00:59:30.000 I was completely destroyed mentally and had to rebuild what I thought I was.

00:59:35.000 That's happening to kids when they're 5, 7, 8.

00:59:37.000 And it's happening to adults when they're 60.

00:59:39.000 So this internet's danger, man.

00:59:41.000 It's the danger zone.

00:59:42.000 It's a minefield for the mind.

00:59:44.000 We gotta treat it like that.

00:59:45.000 Yeah, and it subverts this process of growing up, right?

00:59:48.000 Like, we were talking before the show about this plan I have for my kids, where I'm gonna have, like, a library, and there's gonna be bookshelves full of books so that the kids grow up and they're just used to there being books all around.

00:59:59.000 And my plan is, like, the books at the very bottom, those are gonna be kids' books.

01:00:03.000 You get up a little higher, a little higher, a little higher, those are gonna be the ones where I can tell my kid, you're not ready for that yet.

01:00:09.000 And they're going to be like, Oh, I want that book.

01:00:10.000 Now, that's something that happened like with all of childhood back in the day is

01:00:14.000 there were things that you were not old enough for yet that you don't get to see

01:00:17.000 that you don't get to experience that yet.

01:00:19.000 You're just not old enough.

01:00:20.000 You're not at that point.

01:00:21.000 And it creates that sort of yearning to mature and grow up.

01:00:24.000 And now because of smartphones and just the permissiveness of the way we raise

01:00:28.000 kids, you're seven years old.

01:00:30.000 You can see anything.

01:00:31.000 You can do anything.

01:00:32.000 I am shocked and offended by how you describe what your children will be reading.

01:00:36.000 Clearly, the only things they should be allowed to read are Harry Potter and the Handmaid's Tale.

01:00:40.000 What was the joke?

01:00:44.000 We're making a we're gonna synthesize them and do a reboot that lefties will really pay money for it's gonna be called Harry Handmade Harry Handmade and the Sorcerer's Tale something like that Philosopher's Tale I like this idea that you're gonna have books for your kids and if you I one time my dad was was telling I was in the bathtub I was like six or something or seven and he started to tell me a joke and he was like I I'll tell you when you're older.

01:01:10.000 And I was like, no!

01:01:11.000 He was like, I'll tell you when you're older.

01:01:13.000 And then it's like a rite of passage when he finally tells you.

01:01:15.000 You're like, oh, I've arrived.

01:01:16.000 Well, 15 years went by and I asked him, what was that joke you were going to tell me?

01:01:19.000 And he was like, I don't remember what you're talking about.

01:01:21.000 So make sure they get a chance to read the books.

01:01:23.000 When I was little, we had cable.

01:01:25.000 And the cable box, man, I remember this is crazy, had parental lock on it.

01:01:29.000 Four digit code.

01:01:31.000 And whenever we wanted to watch Beavis and Butthead, my mom had to be like, only if I'm there. 0.99

01:01:35.000 And I decide you're allowed to watch it.

01:01:38.000 Because some of those episodes of Beeps and Buttons, not for little kids, but some of them are just hilarious.

01:01:42.000 Yeah, there's something my dad said to me when I was growing up, which is that, and he was referring to the television, but this is the first time in human history that people let complete strangers into their house to teach their children things without any kind of filter.

01:01:56.000 And when you put it that way, it becomes clear just how alarming this situation is.

01:02:01.000 Yeah.

01:02:02.000 Is this millennials doing it? 0.98

01:02:03.000 What do you mean?

01:02:04.000 Millennials?

01:02:05.000 Well, my dad is referring, no, he was referring to his own generation and the fact that they sit their kids in front of the television or don't police what they're watching.

01:02:11.000 They don't filter any of it.

01:02:13.000 And so it's very, very sad.

01:02:16.000 It's very sad.

01:02:16.000 And there are so many horrible things kids get into at an early age.

01:02:19.000 I mean, we're not just talking about bad political theories or horrible advice.

01:02:24.000 Children end up seeing pornography at a very early age and it warps them.

01:02:28.000 Dude, when I was in seventh grade, We had that one kid that every male friend group has who was like the pervert kid, right?

01:02:35.000 And he brought a couple of his dad's Playboys to school one time.

01:02:39.000 And everybody who found out about it was like, oh my god, he's got a couple Playboys!

01:02:44.000 And then he got caught by the teacher and we were like, well, he's dead.

01:02:47.000 I mean, he's clearly going to be executed on the playground, like his life is completely over.

01:02:52.000 And it's like, now, today, little Johnny brings a cell phone to school, and you got to explain to your six-year-old what X, Y, and Z are.

01:02:59.000 That's terrifying.

01:03:00.000 And instead of being like, kids shouldn't have cell phones, you have these teachers being like, kids have questions.

01:03:05.000 Yep.

01:03:05.000 And we're going to answer them and show them graphic pictures.

01:03:08.000 I love it.

01:03:09.000 The Washington Post's, right, that op-ed where it's like, it's a book about being genderqueer and kids need these stories.

01:03:16.000 And it's being banned now.

01:03:17.000 And then Amazon's like, 18 and up only because it's got graphic depictions of adult activities in it.

01:03:22.000 Well, and they would not put the actual images from the book in their publication because they knew they were too depraved.

01:03:28.000 But they were arguing that children should be shown those images in public schools.

01:03:31.000 That's how you know they're creeps.

01:03:32.000 Yep.

01:03:33.000 Because they know what's in the book and they're lying.

01:03:36.000 Yeah, it's really remarkable, actually, if you go back to the late 60s, how many of the radicals from that era, after they got done being, you know, fake revolutionaries, went into early elementary education or like went into the educational training.

01:03:49.000 You have guys like like Daniel Cohn-Bendit out in France.

01:03:55.000 He was a big revolutionary 68 guy out there.

01:03:57.000 And afterwards, he went and opened a kindergarten.

01:03:59.000 And then he wrote a memoir about it a few years after that.

01:04:02.000 And he talked about like in the mid 70s, Talking about how you know there's all of this sexual repression

01:04:08.000 is what leads to fascism and the authoritarian personality and everything

01:04:11.000 And so if he caught like a couple of his kids like fondling each other or something

01:04:15.000 He would just sit there and like talk to him while they did it and make sure they were comfortable

01:04:18.000 Sometimes they would come up and touch him. Why this guy this guy became like a politician in France. Nobody cared

01:04:24.000 They it got brought up sometime in the late 90s. They tried to like use it against him and nobody cared

01:04:29.000 Yes.

01:04:30.000 So, I've mentioned this on the show before, but there's a disgusting pervert by the name of Alfred Kinsey, and he is known as the father of the sexual revolution, he is the father of sexology, or the modern scientific field of studying human sexuality, and in his published works, he had data tables that were collected by sexually abusing young boys, and this had been done to over 200 minors, boys under the age of 15, including infants, I won't explain what the data tables say on air. 0.83

01:05:01.000 It's really disgusting.

01:05:02.000 But so much of this stuff is completely out in the open.

01:05:05.000 And the Boomer Generation is comedic in a sense because I remember growing up watching movies that the Boomer Generation made about how heroic the Boomer Generation was. 0.75

01:05:14.000 And there's this idea that they were these brave revolutionaries because their parents, who had just lived through the Great Depression and then fought in the Second World War, came home and said, you know, like, we have some advice on how the world works and you should listen to us. 0.94

01:05:29.000 And they said, screw you, mom and dad!

01:05:30.000 I'm gonna have one night stands and listen to rock and roll! 0.97

01:05:33.000 And this is considered this really brave and important revolution.

01:05:35.000 It was just a bunch of spoiled children.

01:05:37.000 It was just a bunch of spoiled children completely tarnishing and squandering their inheritance.

01:05:42.000 I want to bring up this, uh, this tweet here.

01:05:44.000 It's from me!

01:05:44.000 me. There's a tweet from Stonewall Jackson I responded to where he says,

01:05:48.000 this is so pathetic. The new Star Trek show depicts what appears to be the 0.91

01:05:51.000 January 6th protests leading to the end of the world and the human race as we

01:05:55.000 know it. I actually I I find the clip from the new Star Trek show very

01:06:00.000 interesting. They call January 6th a fight for freedom.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, no, no.

01:06:05.000 So, um, I don't know if we can play it because, you know, they're very litigious here on YouTube.

01:06:10.000 But he says it started with a fight for freedom, shows Audit the Vote in January 6, and then the protests from the summer.

01:06:19.000 And he says it ultimately led to the Eugenics War, and then finally World War III, where hundreds of thousands of species were wiped out.

01:06:25.000 But hold on there a minute.

01:06:27.000 Is that not plausible?

01:06:29.000 It starts with a fight for freedom, so they describe.

01:06:32.000 January 6th, they show.

01:06:34.000 Kind of crazy they would call January 6th a fight for freedom, but sure.

01:06:37.000 Led to the eugenics wars. 0.91

01:06:39.000 Well, hold on.

01:06:40.000 What's happening right now?

01:06:40.000 Roe v. Wade is being banned, and the left is going to the homes of Supreme Court justices, and there's a pro-life nonprofit at a Molotov cocktail thrown through its window, reportedly.

01:06:51.000 That's the accusation.

01:06:52.000 And several pro-life pregnancy centers were vandalized.

01:06:56.000 In this show, or maybe they didn't realize it, it makes sense.

01:07:01.000 It's plausible.

01:07:02.000 In today's day and age, a eugenics war? 0.92

01:07:04.000 Yeah, the abortion issue.

01:07:05.000 I think it's kind of poorly written because if there was really, because then they go, it led to the, which led to civil war, which then led to war.

01:07:13.000 Well, he says ultimately World War III.

01:07:15.000 Ultimately World War III.

01:07:16.000 What he would really be saying is then China and the United States, and he'd talk about World War, stuff leading up to it is forgotten.

01:07:23.000 No, no, no, hold on.

01:07:24.000 I think this actually works.

01:07:25.000 Let me break it down for you.

01:07:27.000 You've got January 6th, a fight for freedom, as he calls it.

01:07:30.000 You then have, you know, people are fighting, tensions are rising.

01:07:33.000 Roe v. Wade gets overturned, and then all of a sudden you have blue states outright saying abortion, even in Virginia, after birth.

01:07:40.000 And the media will claim it's not true, but we all heard what Northam said.

01:07:44.000 The baby would be delivered, resuscitated if that's what they wanted, kept comfortable, and then a conversation would happen.

01:07:50.000 Which basically means what?

01:07:51.000 Fine.

01:07:51.000 What's the conversation about?

01:07:53.000 Let's just say, well, he wasn't specific.

01:07:55.000 Colorado, limitless, no restricted abortion.

01:07:57.000 Could this lead to a conflict which is about whether or not some people should not have kids or should?

01:08:04.000 It's happening.

01:08:04.000 How could it then become World War III?

01:08:07.000 He may be oversimplifying it.

01:08:08.000 But the political conflict inside the United States could ultimately result in a unipolar world destabilizing, China expanding in various countries, Russia expanding in Eastern Europe, the U.S.

01:08:18.000 still trying to maintain unipolar dominance, and then World War III.

01:08:23.000 I think it's fascinating they wrote this through it, but I will start with the point where they describe January 6th as a fight for freedom.

01:08:30.000 Yeah, I think, and I'm sure you know this, I appreciate your analysis, but obviously they were trying to smear the right, more or less put it on conservatives.

01:08:38.000 You really don't think so?

01:08:39.000 You think they're trying to be neutral?

01:08:40.000 In what way could you, he literally shows January 6th as a fight for freedom.

01:08:45.000 How could you in any way say he's trying to smear them?

01:08:48.000 Well, I think when you look at the track record of Hollywood and their analysis of current events, they tend to come down on the side of the left.

01:08:54.000 And I would also argue that for a television show to explicitly say they were in favor of what happened on January 6th would basically be suicide.

01:09:00.000 You would have said it started with disinformation riling up disaffected citizens into believing their country was stolen from them and rioting, which sparked a civil war.

01:09:10.000 No, he said a fight for freedom.

01:09:11.000 I think January 6th wasn't a fight.

01:09:13.000 There was a few people that got into it, maybe, but it wasn't.

01:09:16.000 It was just a protest.

01:09:17.000 Maybe he was talking about the feds and he's like, those feds were fighting for freedom.

01:09:20.000 It does then show Summer of Love stuff.

01:09:23.000 You know, so.

01:09:23.000 Yeah.

01:09:24.000 So, also, it's possible, you know, they write the dialogue and then the editor ends up placing certain images over the dialogue that the writer might not have intended.

01:09:33.000 But you know, I kinda, I think I agree with you Ian about the point that it's a little bit lazy.

01:09:39.000 So it's not abnormal for a science fiction show about the future to comment on current events or at least contemporary culture, but to do it in a really over the top way like this seems really lazy.

01:09:52.000 Instead of creating an allegory for it or having characters in the future present a situation you might be more detached from than the current event, they are literally showing things that happened today and commenting on it.

01:10:03.000 I think it's a rip-off of a Star Trek episode where Data asks about terrorism, because they visit a planet where there are terrorists.

01:10:13.000 And then he mentions, Data says, I don't understand some elements of their conduct.

01:10:16.000 You know, we say it's wrong to do these things, but it's actually been quite successful for many groups.

01:10:21.000 And then he mentions Mexico, Ireland, and then he mentions a fictitious 2020, you know, 2022, or 2220-something event, Star Trek World.

01:10:31.000 And basically what Data does is he asks a question about terrorism using real historical elements and then a fictitious sci-fi element from the future we haven't encountered yet.

01:10:41.000 It seems to be the exact same thing they're doing.

01:10:43.000 It's lazy.

01:10:43.000 It's very lazy.

01:10:44.000 It's video footage from last year, too.

01:10:46.000 Which is, that's why I watch Star Trek.

01:10:49.000 That's why I watch sci-fi shows about the future.

01:10:50.000 I want to see video footage from last year.

01:10:54.000 Laziness. 0.92

01:10:55.000 But, I don't know.

01:10:56.000 I find it fascinating.

01:10:57.000 I wonder, you know, Laziness or short-sightedness or like a lack of creativity on the or a political underhanded move.

01:11:05.000 Yeah, I don't think you can.

01:11:06.000 I mean, I haven't seen the clip, but I don't think you can put a January 6 clip in that context on a show without it being a political decision.

01:11:16.000 I mean, I think that's something that's done on purpose.

01:11:19.000 Absolutely.

01:11:20.000 Well, it also shows that George Floyd's right.

01:11:23.000 And of course, this kind of thing affects re-watchability.

01:11:26.000 People will go back and re-watch episodes of TNG or the original series.

01:11:32.000 I really don't think people are going to be going back and re-watching this 15-20 years from now.

01:11:36.000 Not many of them.

01:11:37.000 I'm not watching it the first time.

01:11:38.000 I'm a huge Star Trek fan.

01:11:42.000 You know what it is?

01:11:44.000 They hired a bunch of people who hate Star Trek to write Star Trek.

01:11:47.000 Is this the one with Stacey Abrams?

01:11:48.000 She made an appearance as the president of the planets or something? 1.00

01:11:52.000 That was Discovery, I think.

01:11:54.000 Stacey Abrams, the president of Earth. 0.98

01:11:56.000 Okay, political Star Trek trash again. 0.93

01:11:58.000 They have a politician as a character. 0.94

01:12:00.000 You know, you mentioned this earlier.

01:12:01.000 We were talking before the show about the late-night TV and how they're, in the key demo, we actually rival some late-night television shows, which is actually really bad for them because they used to get 20 million views.

01:12:15.000 And the funny thing is, you mentioned how older people watch those shows.

01:12:19.000 They used to watch it every night, but now all of a sudden they're being made fun of.

01:12:22.000 This is the funny thing.

01:12:23.000 Like Jimmy Kimmel, for instance, in like the late night, the people who are who are watching CNN, the people who are watching these shows, the overall majority are like 60 to 70 years old.

01:12:33.000 And they're trying to make the politics of these shows fit a millennial leftist or progressive worldview.

01:12:39.000 And it's like, well, that's not the boomer generation.

01:12:42.000 So your show used to actually attract tens of millions of people in the boomer generation.

01:12:48.000 You've decided to sacrifice all of that for millennials who consume digital media.

01:12:53.000 They should just be making a new show.

01:12:55.000 They should keep that show with older hosts to keep talking to the older crowd that was young in the 80s when David Letterman was in his 30s.

01:13:02.000 And then they should have a new show, but they're competing for time slots, which is also archaic because people watch stuff on YouTube at any time of day.

01:13:09.000 You don't need it.

01:13:10.000 Stuff's on demand now.

01:13:12.000 People, industry, I don't know, I don't want to make a generalization about industry being slow to adopt the hot new thing, but the entertainment industry sure is.

01:13:21.000 They were still making me mail headshots in, in like 2008, because sending a digital thing was apparently just, they just didn't under, it was too new, so it wasn't good.

01:13:31.000 Are we just, uh, going through the natural progression of old fogeyism?

01:13:34.000 Where we're like, It was better when I was a kid!

01:13:36.000 Yeah, man, I mean, I'm 27, but I'm already there.

01:13:38.000 I didn't hear you say these kids today.

01:13:42.000 Remember, uh, the Simpsons thing where Abe is talking to a young Homer, and he's like, It'll happen to you too!

01:13:49.000 He's like, I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was.

01:13:53.000 Now what it is is scary to me.

01:13:55.000 It'll happen to you.

01:13:57.000 I think children today are smarter than the previous generation intellectually, and their minds work quicker.

01:14:04.000 And that's the natural progression of evolution.

01:14:06.000 But emotionally, we're experiencing some challenges because of the disconnectedness of the technology.

01:14:12.000 You know what I was thinking, though?

01:14:14.000 I wonder if that's true.

01:14:15.000 Because I know kids today are still very much passionate about capturing small animals and forcing them to fight each other.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:23.000 I went to a bowling alley arcade the other day, and all the kids just love forcing animals to fight.

01:14:28.000 You know, brutally just beat each other.

01:14:30.000 And tons of Pokemon toys everywhere.

01:14:32.000 Yeah.

01:14:33.000 I grew up with Pokemon.

01:14:35.000 I remember when it first started in America, and I bought Pokemon Red on the original Game Boy with money I made at my family's cafe from tips.

01:14:44.000 And today, kids are still very much watching Pokemon, and the toys are like the big prize at the arcade were Pokemon stuff.

01:14:51.000 I was talking to somebody, I guess a couple months ago now.

01:14:55.000 Did you know there are Pokemon cards that get sold for a half a million dollars?

01:14:59.000 Yes, I used to own a ton of them.

01:15:00.000 I didn't know it was that much.

01:15:01.000 Gary V is a big proponent of it.

01:15:02.000 He had to show me on his phone.

01:15:03.000 I did not believe him.

01:15:05.000 The funny thing is, like, having owned so many foil first edition Pokemon cards, and then just like having lost them or sold them, now it's like a laughable when I'm like, that's how much they're going for these days?

01:15:17.000 Wow.

01:15:17.000 Because the printing run was so low?

01:15:19.000 I don't know because look, you know, millennials are broke, right? 1.00

01:15:22.000 Millennials are relatively poor. 0.69

01:15:26.000 So who cares that much about Pokemon other than nostalgic millennials?

01:15:30.000 So I guess there's a spattering of wealthy millennials who are like, I would like to buy a Charizard for a million bucks.

01:15:35.000 It's gotta just be speculators in the market, right?

01:15:37.000 I don't think it's like a Pokemon fan who's like, I've gotta have that card.

01:15:41.000 There's some dude who's like, there's like a Gen Z. I mean, uh,

01:15:43.000 He mowed a lot of lawns that summer and he needed that Pokemon card.

01:15:46.000 No, no, no. Think about it. If you're, if you're Gen Z right now,

01:15:49.000 it is a great bet to buy old Pokemon cards because once the boomers age out 1.00

01:15:56.000 and then millennials inherit a lot of this wealth.

01:15:59.000 You're gonna have a bunch of nostalgic, rich, 60-year-old millennials, and you're gonna be in your mid-40s, and you're gonna be like, you want that Charizard?

01:16:05.000 I got it.

01:16:06.000 And that $100,000 is gonna be $10 million.

01:16:09.000 That theme that you just talked about, about millennials not having any money, has come up a couple times, and it seems like that's one of the threads that kind of ties everything together politically and socially right now, right?

01:16:20.000 Where if you go back to the late 60s again, middle-aged people were looking at the colleges, looking at the youth movement, and they were like, oh my god.

01:16:29.000 when these people take over our society like actually go out and get into authority positions like we're just I guess we're just done this is the end of America the end of the world and of course it turned out not to be that way because those people got out of college and they got jobs and bought houses and had kids and then once you get to that point you kind of care about what your community is going to be like in 10 years you care about what kind of schools your kids are going to and you be that's another way of saying you basically become a conservative in a lot of important like dispositional ways You look at the millennial generation.

01:16:58.000 And so what happens, right?

01:16:59.000 So every like 25 years or so is like when that happens in the past.

01:17:04.000 You get to about 25, maybe late 20s.

01:17:06.000 By that point, your parents are starting to be like, are you not going to get married yet?

01:17:09.000 Like what's going on?

01:17:10.000 There was that, that was the timing of it.

01:17:12.000 The millennials has had like that, that period, that young person period has had so much more room to run because they're in their mid to late thirties and they're not able to get married and have kids and buy houses or create a stable career.

01:17:23.000 I don't think that's it.

01:17:26.000 You know, I've heard a lot from millennials where they're like, we'd be getting married and having kids if it wasn't for this economy.

01:17:31.000 And I'm like, I don't believe it.

01:17:32.000 I just, I just think that's an excuse.

01:17:34.000 I think people are just permanent children.

01:17:37.000 Well, the economy is in a horrific state.

01:17:39.000 When Obama bailed out Freddie May and Freddie Mac, and when we all found out we were on fiat currency and not the gold standard in 2007, everybody got the red pill.

01:17:48.000 That was like, oh, and now we're, what are we just, are we in hyperinflation right now?

01:17:52.000 I don't know if you'd call it hyperinflation, but we've just almost doubled our money supply.

01:17:57.000 I'll call myself out outright.

01:17:58.000 I'm 36.

01:17:58.000 I am not married.

01:17:59.000 I'm in a relationship, but we have no kids.

01:18:02.000 There is something about millennials where it just, it didn't happen.

01:18:05.000 Well, but values change to accommodate reality, right?

01:18:08.000 I mean, like, you know, I just think about I was just ahead of this curve.

01:18:13.000 I guess I got lucky for that.

01:18:14.000 But if you're about 35, about your age, you basically got out of high school.

01:18:19.000 9-11 happens.

01:18:20.000 We've been at war ever since you've been anything like an adult.

01:18:23.000 Right.

01:18:24.000 And.

01:18:25.000 The only politics that you've known is people screaming at each other, calling each other Nazis, and so forth, and that's it.

01:18:31.000 That's our politics as far as, since you've ever been paying attention to politics, that's what it's been.

01:18:36.000 You just get out of college, and like the year or two after you get out of college, the financial crisis hits.

01:18:41.000 And things are just a waste for several years.

01:18:43.000 You finally start to maybe get back on your feet in your mid-thirties, and you're starting to put something together, COVID hits.

01:18:49.000 Like, this is just an incredible amount of instability for any generation to handle.

01:18:53.000 You know, the millennials are going to be the first generation in American history that has a lower standard of living than their parents do.

01:18:59.000 And you cannot overstate, I think, how significant that is, right?

01:19:03.000 Because it's not just like, oh, my parents had a house that was this big and I only get a house this big.

01:19:09.000 What people relate it to, like what their basic standard of what a life should look like is how things were when they were growing up.

01:19:16.000 And so you have an entire generation of people who in the aggregate grew up a certain way and are starting to realize and understand that they are going to take a step back from where that was.

01:19:28.000 And that's, you know, it's not a it's not some like huge mystery why we get Bernie Sanders at a time like this.

01:19:34.000 There's this viral video about pod housing where people, these companies will buy like a decently large loft and then stack up like five little cubes and then five on top and you crawl into this little, it's probably five feet wide, no four feet wide Four feet high, and you crawl into your little mat on the floor with your TV and your art, and that's your pod.

01:20:03.000 Everyone shares the kitchen and bathrooms.

01:20:05.000 And there's videos of these millennials being like, it's just so awesome.

01:20:08.000 It's only $800 per month.

01:20:10.000 And it's just like, oh no, for real.

01:20:14.000 You want to live in some of these cities, man.

01:20:17.000 It's only four a month with a roommate.

01:20:20.000 You're gonna get communism.

01:20:21.000 You're gonna get little hippie houses, buildings, where there's gonna be like 50 millennials all living in it and they're sharing their kids.

01:20:27.000 Like, their kids are gonna be just communal kids, I mean.

01:20:29.000 I saw a tweet, and I need to verify this one, but I believe it was from the World Economic Forum, and it showed young people about our age living in a tiny house, and it said, if you own a big house, you're racist.

01:20:41.000 You need to own a small house.

01:20:42.000 You need to own nothing and be happy about it.

01:20:45.000 And I was telling my dad about this when he came out a little while ago.

01:20:48.000 I said, Dad, I feel a great sense of almost resentment, but very much a sense of missing something that we never had, because I know now that the American dream that I grew up with is not something that I will ever see.

01:20:59.000 I will never see my white picket fence.

01:21:01.000 That's not something that I'm ever going to have.

01:21:03.000 Yeah, the American dream was based on imperialism and war.

01:21:07.000 It wasn't a real thing.

01:21:08.000 I think one of the issues is I also think millennials are the first generation of mass debt college students.

01:21:16.000 I don't think Gen X, for the most part, was inundated the same way the millennials were.

01:21:21.000 The boomers certainly weren't. 0.99

01:21:23.000 So one of the issues is, I believe, when I grew up, every single adult was like, you have to go to college.

01:21:30.000 And I would just be like, why?

01:21:31.000 And they would be like, because otherwise you won't get a good job.

01:21:34.000 And then I'm just like, I don't understand.

01:21:37.000 Well, I've told this story before.

01:21:38.000 I read an op-ed from an economist, I think he worked under Clinton, where he said that if you went to any investor and said, you give me $40,000 in an investment and in four years you will owe me $40,000 plus interest and that's it.

01:21:53.000 They would laugh in your face. 0.99

01:21:54.000 That's the stupidest investment I've ever heard of. 1.00

01:21:56.000 But this is what we're telling every 18 year old to do, to take out a loan with interest 1.00

01:22:00.000 that gets them no guarantees.

01:22:02.000 They don't know why they're going to college, they don't know where they're going to work

01:22:05.000 when they get out, and a bunch of these millennials went in for liberal arts. 0.99

01:22:09.000 And now they're slammed with debt, confused.

01:22:11.000 But we had the boomer generation, I tell you man, they were screaming in my ears. 1.00

01:22:15.000 they would shut up about it.

01:22:17.000 So now you have an entire generation settled with

01:22:19.000 impossible debt, just hating the system, all the problems

01:22:23.000 you mentioned with war, with the financial collapse, the

01:22:25.000 security state.

01:22:26.000 And they've just, I think they've just lost the ability

01:22:29.000 to function in any meaningful way relative to the past

01:22:32.000 generations.

01:22:33.000 I think he hit on a good point.

01:22:34.000 It is something I really worry about, right, which is maybe

01:22:39.000 there are no economic policies that we're going to have or

01:22:41.000 anything that are actually going to get things back to

01:22:43.000 where they were in the 50s and and 60s, you know?

01:22:46.000 Maybe all of that was just a relic of the fact that the entire world got destroyed and deindustrialized in World War II, except for us, and they all needed American labor and American capital.

01:22:57.000 You know, we're 5% of the world's population, we got 30% of the world's resources flowing into the Imperial Center, and maybe that was just never sustainable.

01:23:05.000 And you just wonder, like, even if, you know, we're 5% of the world's population, if we only got 15% instead of 30% of the world's resources, we're still...

01:23:14.000 like probably at the top of the heap.

01:23:16.000 I don't think we could handle, I think there would be a violent revolution

01:23:19.000 if we had to take a 50% cut in our standard of living in this country, you know?

01:23:24.000 And so maybe it was never something sustainable.

01:23:27.000 I think people just gotta learn to go live in the middle of nowhere.

01:23:30.000 And a lot of people who live in the middle of nowhere are like, no, you're gonna ruin the middle of nowhere.

01:23:33.000 Don't tell him to come here.

01:23:34.000 Well, but that's the difficulty, right?

01:23:36.000 Like, I remember when the Yellow Vest protests were going on in France and I read an article by one of the leaders of it.

01:23:41.000 And the thing he said was, and this is true in France, it's true in the United States to a large degree, is that the places that you actually have to go to work are becoming increasingly concentrated in like a few urban centers.

01:23:54.000 Those places are becoming impossible to actually live because they're so expensive because everybody has to go there.

01:24:00.000 It's like you can, I mean, there's probably more, you know, jobs out in the middle of nowhere if you're willing to be an electrician or a plumber or something like that instead of, you know, but, you know, we've spent just God knows how many hours and how many dollars of propaganda to convince people that that makes them a failure in their life if they end up doing that, so.

01:24:19.000 You know, one of the biggest challenges as we're trying to build this new studio is, you know, we're trying to find a local expert in folklore mythology, but we just can't find any!

01:24:27.000 You know, if only there was someone who can come and read us the ancient words that could help us... I have no idea how to help build our facility.

01:24:35.000 If only they can do like a feminist analysis of the Epic of Gilgamesh. 0.99

01:24:38.000 You'll find that person.

01:24:39.000 That would actually be a good bit we should do where it's like, you know, in order to get the new studio built, we had to bring in a feminist interpretive dancer. 1.00

01:24:46.000 Like you said, Parliament thing, like European Parliament where they're just dancing and it's like, Oh, I think regarding what you said about standard of living, that was interesting that this would be the first generation to have a standard of living less than the generation before.

01:24:58.000 And I wonder maybe financially, I agree with you financially for sure.

01:25:01.000 That's what it looks like.

01:25:02.000 But my parents' generation got drafted into Vietnam, destroyed their standard of living.

01:25:07.000 I mean, annihilated the entire generation. 0.99

01:25:09.000 It ruined their lives.

01:25:11.000 And World War I annihilated the entire generation. 0.78

01:25:14.000 Give him a little more time with Russia.

01:25:16.000 We'll see what happens.

01:25:16.000 Yeah, so that's why I'm so anti-war.

01:25:18.000 If you think that even considering a war right now is any benefit, you've got to understand what countries do with large uneducated and un... What do you call when they don't have a job?

01:25:32.000 Unemployed.

01:25:32.000 Unemployed masses.

01:25:34.000 What countries do with those people, they send them to war to die so they don't have to feed them and take care of them.

01:25:39.000 So you do not want to push for a war.

01:25:43.000 Yes.

01:25:45.000 I think you made a very interesting point about America sort of stepping in after the Second World War and becoming this economic powerhouse, and I hadn't considered that before.

01:25:57.000 And I want to give it some thought, but another point I like to make when it comes to the change in the standard of living is the fact that The workforce really became oversaturated because we doubled the labor supply once we decided that rather than a sole breadwinner, rather than the father representing the family unit economically and working, we were going to have both parents work because that was somehow, you know, woman's liberation.

01:26:20.000 We ended up in a position where your average worker now had half the negotiating power.

01:26:25.000 And so I think that's been seriously detrimental to this country.

01:26:28.000 But ultimately, whether you're talking about, you know, a crony capitalist system or a capitalist system, which is not managed virtuously or a communist system.

01:26:38.000 In the end, you have a really horrific situation where your average person does not have property and therefore no investment in the system.

01:26:48.000 Yeah, this whole BlackRock owning property thing's got to go.

01:26:50.000 Let's just let's just start from step one.

01:26:54.000 And this isn't a value statement or a moral statement.

01:26:57.000 Women largely enter the workforce around starting in the 70s and the late 70s, right? 1.00

01:27:02.000 That's when we you know, so so I mean, for our parents generation, it was like they were young adults, like all of a sudden women were getting jobs.

01:27:10.000 You know, for me, I grew up, it was always the case.

01:27:13.000 But once women are in the workforce, You now have both men and women focused on the breadwinning aspect of life and no familial aspect of life. 0.97

01:27:23.000 So who's going to raise the kids? 0.70

01:27:24.000 Well, daycare becomes a question.

01:27:26.000 They now say we need businesses to offer daycare for our kids or public schooling.

01:27:33.000 The government has to replace the family.

01:27:36.000 And that is not going to work out well for anybody.

01:27:38.000 It's this slow creep where, like Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, talked about this with technology, how a car is invented.

01:27:46.000 And it's like, wow, now I can get a car and I can drive wherever I want.

01:27:51.000 I could only walk or ride my bike before.

01:27:52.000 Now I can drive.

01:27:53.000 I have the freedom of the road.

01:27:55.000 Let a little bit of time go by.

01:27:57.000 And now, having a car is not an option.

01:27:59.000 You have to have a car to survive in our society at all, and you're commuting 45 minutes to work every day, stuck in traffic, and you have no choice.

01:28:06.000 It's kind of similar here.

01:28:07.000 Like, oh wow, women can go out and get a career. 1.00

01:28:09.000 They can go out and get jobs now.

01:28:11.000 Well, give it a couple years and now women have to get jobs. 1.00

01:28:14.000 Both parents have to work just to survive because wages have stagnated and costs have gone up.

01:28:19.000 It has a way of working like that.

01:28:20.000 I never hear the left talk about that.

01:28:22.000 They always show these graphs where it's like, I wonder what happened in 1979.

01:28:24.000 And then I see this meme where it's like labor unions started losing power.

01:28:29.000 And I'm like, it's true, but you double the workforce and your bargaining power gets cut in half overnight.

01:28:37.000 And not just that, but you've got, you've got somebody who's, you know, running a business and they say to the guy, so tell me about your family.

01:28:44.000 It's like, oh, my wife works here and you know, we're planning this and this and I need X amount of dollars.

01:28:49.000 You don't need that much money.

01:28:49.000 Like your wife's got a job.

01:28:51.000 Like the collective salary between you and your wife is going to be 75K.

01:28:54.000 You're fine.

01:28:56.000 Yeah, I think the expectation is that you're going to be a dual-income household, and so you don't need to be paid a wage that would be sufficient for supporting a family.

01:29:02.000 And just to clarify something I said earlier, I said that people who don't have property don't have a stake in the system.

01:29:09.000 I misspoke.

01:29:10.000 They don't have as much of a stake.

01:29:11.000 There's still a stake in the system, but they are much easier to control.

01:29:15.000 What is the phrase, Dink?

01:29:17.000 Is that it?

01:29:17.000 Dual income, no kids.

01:29:18.000 Yeah.

01:29:19.000 I think you're right, though.

01:29:20.000 Easier to bully.

01:29:21.000 I mean, I think there's some inve- like, because I don't want to- I think property is very important, but I also, I don't want to say, like, if somebody has no property, then, like, they're not doing things that could be selfless or beneficial to the system.

01:29:31.000 It's not just property, though.

01:29:32.000 It's stability.

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:33.000 Like, you know, I've seen every time I go into an airport, I see like a Fast Company magazine, one of those like new hip business magazines.

01:29:40.000 And it always have like some kind of cover article they do.

01:29:43.000 It's one of those recurring articles that they do again and again in different, you know, slightly different ways.

01:29:48.000 And it says like how For this generation, you know, the young generation, the young people coming up today are going to change careers six times throughout their lives and that the skill of the future isn't going to be like mastering some skill.

01:30:00.000 It's going to be mastering the art of learning so that you can go through these changes like smoothly.

01:30:05.000 And it's like, well, OK, like if you're some super high IQ person with like a good start, you know, in your early 20s and you kind of like knew what you were doing and you got off on a good start, good for you.

01:30:15.000 But what happens when you change careers six times throughout your life?

01:30:20.000 That's six times maybe you have to move?

01:30:23.000 Six times that your friends get changed.

01:30:25.000 Eventually that just becomes... I mean, I went to like 35 different schools between kindergarten and twelfth grade, and by third grade I just learned, like, don't make friends.

01:30:32.000 It's a pointless exercise, right?

01:30:34.000 And so people learn.

01:30:36.000 You know, don't get too attached to the place you live.

01:30:38.000 Don't get too sentimental about the people you meet there.

01:30:42.000 And so I think there is a loss of investment, you know, and then what what they end up doing is as maybe as a replacement, a prosthetic for that, is they displace that sort of social concern that they have onto some, you know, broad social issues on the federal level or something like that.

01:30:57.000 I think that can absolutely happen.

01:30:58.000 I think that can absolutely happen.

01:31:00.000 And you made a point earlier about how we couldn't come in and just cut everyone's standard of living in half.

01:31:05.000 I was mentioning communism, and of course I believe that communism is an unbelievably horrific, barbaric system.

01:31:12.000 I mean, it's not just a matter of people not having property.

01:31:15.000 I mean, they slaughter people.

01:31:17.000 But, at the same time, if a communist regime were to be instilled in the United States and they were to tell people, you know, you have to live in a pod now, it would be much more of a struggle than to just erode the economic independence of the American people over time to the point where they say, a pod, that's a really great deal.

01:31:34.000 Or van life.

01:31:35.000 Mmm, yeah.

01:31:36.000 I remember when, uh, that there was this woman on YouTube who was po- she posted, like, two van life videos and gained, like, three million subs overnight.

01:31:44.000 Because there was apparently some glitch in the algorithm where she hit all these key points, and so YouTube's algorithm just showed her videos to literally everyone.

01:31:53.000 So she makes, like, two videos with three million subs. 1.00

01:31:56.000 But I- it made me- made me think of a potential conspiracy.

01:31:59.000 That YouTube was intentionally promoting van life as a way of making millennials happy, being happy with owning nothing? 0.81

01:32:05.000 For real, think about what happened.

01:32:07.000 So when this van life trend was going around in like 2018, all these people are on YouTube and they're like, I live in a van, I can go wherever I want, I got no rent, I got a computer and my dog and we're going surfing.

01:32:19.000 And then they post these videos where they're playing that song by, I think it's by Avicii.

01:32:23.000 He said one day you'll leave here.

01:32:25.000 Or whatever that song is, it's like on repeat.

01:32:27.000 And they're all like running and like filming themselves.

01:32:29.000 Life is so good living in a van down by the river!

01:32:32.000 And I just, I was like, I wonder if YouTube's promoting that because they want people to own nothing and be happy.

01:32:37.000 And then all of a sudden we got that video from the World Economic Forum that said, you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

01:32:41.000 I will not live in the pod.

01:32:42.000 I will not eat the boat.

01:32:43.000 It's tough to tell because it's like calling it, what does YouTube want?

01:32:46.000 It's monolithic.

01:32:47.000 Corporations don't have wants, but certain people within the corporations may very well have that in mind.

01:32:52.000 I would think that most people involved hadn't thought about that or thought that far ahead.

01:32:56.000 It almost seemed like the dream, the American dream, is so prevalent that people had bought it at that point.

01:33:01.000 Yeah, well no, I think regardless, even if it's not the case that there's an algorithmic push to direct people towards this kind of content, Our generation I would say generations prior have really been slowly sold this idea that Independence is the most important thing you can possibly have right so commitment and productivity are Significantly less important than being able to do whatever you want whenever you want and it's true that if you are just living out of a comfortable van

01:33:30.000 You're not tied down anywhere.

01:33:32.000 You don't have as high of expenses.

01:33:34.000 It's much easier for you to travel.

01:33:36.000 I'm not saying it's a preferable way to live, but it is the way to live that we have been sold.

01:33:40.000 Maintaining these vans is not easy.

01:33:42.000 They can't drive.

01:33:43.000 But maintaining a house is really difficult.

01:33:45.000 I would say maintaining a van is probably a lot less expensive.

01:33:48.000 Um, but if you're, if you're living in a van, I don't know if you're gonna have the kind of job that's going to be, you know, unless you're one of these van life YouTubers. 1.00

01:33:56.000 Well, again, my whole point is there's a lifestyle, whether it's, there's a lifestyle that's been sold to us, which is that independence is the most important thing.

01:34:06.000 It is far more important, as I said, than productivity or commitment, building something in the longterm.

01:34:10.000 What matters is you can pick up and leave and do whatever you want, whenever you want.

01:34:14.000 And so it's unsurprising that it's such a huge drag.

01:34:16.000 All right.

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01:34:30.000 Let's read what all of these Super Chats are about. 0.99

01:34:33.000 Something about people starting farms with a bunch of farm animals?

01:34:36.000 They want to buy a bunch of mules or something.

01:34:39.000 I don't know.

01:34:39.000 I wonder what that is.

01:34:40.000 How many?

01:34:40.000 2,000, I think.

01:34:41.000 2,000 mules?

01:34:42.000 2,000 mules.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, something about that.

01:34:43.000 Anyway, Amanda Diltz.

01:34:43.000 I wonder what they do with them.

01:34:45.000 Is that what it says?

01:34:46.000 Diltz?

01:34:46.000 Please, please wish my daughter Riley a happy birthday.

01:34:49.000 She turned four yesterday and was so excited to get her Step on Snack dress like her three other siblings.

01:34:54.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:34:56.000 We made onesies, right?

01:34:58.000 I think.

01:34:58.000 Step on Snack and find out onesies.

01:35:00.000 Riley?

01:35:01.000 Indoctrinate your kids with liberty.

01:35:03.000 Riley, it's for Riley's birthday?

01:35:04.000 Riley, happy birthday.

01:35:05.000 Happy birthday, Riley.

01:35:07.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:35:08.000 Alright.

01:35:09.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. 0.98

01:35:10.000 says, Blue-haired FUBA wants to do a sex strike. 1.00

01:35:13.000 Okay. 0.99

01:35:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:35:14.000 Alright!

01:35:16.000 Alright.

01:35:17.000 Joe Burns says, Hey Tim, have you considered making Sesame Street-like kids TV show starring Ian and puppet versions of Chicken City Chickens with a hidden ongoing joke that is high on DMT the whole time?

01:35:28.000 That's a good idea!

01:35:29.000 So... Ian's Breakthrough?

01:35:31.000 The show is, you're the one... It's just called Breakthrough.

01:35:33.000 No, it's too sci-fi.

01:35:35.000 Yeah, it's gotta be called Chicken City with, you know, kids.

01:35:37.000 Oh yeah, that's a good idea.

01:35:37.000 Chicken City Kids.

01:35:38.000 And then it's you, and there's puppet chickens, and they're like, hey Ian, 2 plus 2 equals 4.

01:35:43.000 And then you're like, whoa.

01:35:44.000 And then like, the intro to the show is always a DMT trip, but kids don't get it, so it's just like, you like... The chickens are walking around like normal chickens, but then all of a sudden they start talking to you.

01:35:53.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

01:35:54.000 You watch it when you grow up and then you realize.

01:35:56.000 It's like watching old Looney Tunes and you realize how racist they are.

01:35:59.000 Yeah, right?

01:36:01.000 Alright, so I think it's funny that people are like, the lead story is 2,000 mules.

01:36:05.000 Why would you talk about it?

01:36:06.000 I think, full disclosure, I didn't see it.

01:36:08.000 Yeah, I haven't seen it, you know.

01:36:10.000 It was Mother's Day.

01:36:11.000 Didn't you guys see it?

01:36:12.000 It's preoccupying.

01:36:15.000 I know a little bit about it.

01:36:16.000 We'll talk a little bit about it.

01:36:18.000 Colt says, have you watched 2,000 mules?

01:36:20.000 If so, what were your thoughts?

01:36:21.000 I have not yet seen it.

01:36:23.000 But I do know a little bit about it from reading the news.

01:36:26.000 I know that the mainstream media is basically saying it's all fake news.

01:36:29.000 And one of the criticisms that Dinesh D'Souza brought up is they're saying there was GPS data tracking people who are dropping off multiple ballots.

01:36:37.000 This is the allegation.

01:36:38.000 And the mainstream media is like, GPS data is not precise enough, except there are many stories from the mainstream media about how GPS data is actually quite precise.

01:36:46.000 So it's like, it definitely seems like there's a double standard.

01:36:49.000 It's been used in murder trials.

01:36:51.000 GPS data?

01:36:52.000 Yeah, and that serial show.

01:36:53.000 You remember the first season of Serial?

01:36:55.000 They talked about a big part of it was the GPS data from his phone.

01:36:58.000 Like, was he in this location?

01:37:00.000 Alright, let's see.

01:37:03.000 Will S. says, First Super Chat after more than a year of listening.

01:37:06.000 Friday with Daryl was an incredible disappointment, but I don't want to give up.

01:37:10.000 Please invite him back on for more of what he did with the clan and maybe a debate with Seoul.

01:37:15.000 I was thinking about the conversation we had with Daryl Davis and I think what a lot of people realized for the first time The story of Daryl Davis is about a blues musician who befriended members of the Klan and other white supremacists and convinced them, inadvertently as it was, he was the impetus by which they gave up being white supremacists.

01:37:34.000 I think for many people who are anti-identitarian, they heard the story and assumed that he convinced them not to be racists.

01:37:42.000 But upon hearing the identitarian opinions of Daryl Davis, I think a lot of people all of a sudden felt like, hey, how can this be?

01:37:49.000 I thought he was convincing, you know, identitarians not to want race policy, but he was very much heavily advocating for race policy.

01:37:57.000 I think the issue is Daryl Davis didn't de-radicalize members of the Klan away from racism.

01:38:03.000 He de-radicalized them away from white identitarianism.

01:38:07.000 Meaning it was easy for them to replace the racism they already had with another form of it because it was very similar.

01:38:14.000 They were like, oh, okay, racial discrimination in this way makes sense, right?

01:38:18.000 That's possible, yeah.

01:38:19.000 I thought a couple things with Daryl is like, first, the story of Daryl Davis is bridging the gap.

01:38:25.000 It's not about believing the same thing as the other person.

01:38:27.000 It's about bridging the gap.

01:38:28.000 And so there's a generation gap and there's also the race gap.

01:38:31.000 And that's a conversation that's not going to be had in two hours.

01:38:34.000 And yeah, we should definitely do it again.

01:38:36.000 So yeah, I wondered because we've had conversations and we've seen interviews with Daryl before where these issues haven't come up the way they did on this show.

01:38:44.000 So some people were saying that he had been radicalized.

01:38:47.000 And perhaps the rise of critical race theory and the things he was quoting are relatively new phenomenon in modern political context.

01:38:54.000 And you could argue that they're created in order to radicalize or at least proliferated in order to radicalize.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, and it was interesting.

01:39:01.000 He was wrong.

01:39:01.000 He kept saying that the U.S.

01:39:02.000 never apologized for slavery, but you brought up in 2008, NPR reported that Congress did apologize for slavery.

01:39:08.000 Yeah, there was an official apology for it.

01:39:09.000 Well, I think there were several, actually.

01:39:11.000 My life is an apology.

01:39:12.000 Let me make the world better for you and your friends.

01:39:15.000 Alright, we made a lot of money tonight from people saying, please see 2000 Mules, the movie.

01:39:21.000 So the general idea is that there were, in five key states, several people who they tracked GPS data on that showed them going to Dropboxes multiple times.

01:39:31.000 But several... I've seen... So again, I don't want to... I don't want to criticize too much because I haven't seen it yet, but I will check it out.

01:39:38.000 Interesting questions being raised.

01:39:40.000 And I think that's fair.

01:39:42.000 I think that's it.

01:39:43.000 A lot of people are like, you can't bring it up, you'll get banned.

01:39:45.000 I don't think 2000 Mules... My understanding from what I've already seen in the news and in media commentary is that it raises certain questions and requests an answer, and then asks people to look into the footage and the evidence because there's a large amount of videos that need to be gone through.

01:39:45.000 I'm not.

01:40:01.000 I don't- I- I- That's about it.

01:40:03.000 That's where we're at.

01:40:04.000 I think it raises a lot of interesting questions so far, but again, need to watch it.

01:40:07.000 Need to watch it for sure.

01:40:09.000 I saw some people already comment that only, I think, one video was actually released of a person doing a multiple ballot drop.

01:40:16.000 So I- I don't know.

01:40:17.000 I- I don't know about a whole lot of- I- I don't know enough.

01:40:20.000 I don't know enough.

01:40:22.000 Alright.

01:40:23.000 Let's see.

01:40:24.000 Rob S. says, 2,000 Ians looking in your soul.

01:40:27.000 Alright.

01:40:28.000 All from a different angle.

01:40:30.000 Tim Jake says the NPR story was written by the same person that claimed conflict between Gorsuch and Sotomayor over masks, a story proven false.

01:40:37.000 She has history of making claims without supporting facts or evidence.

01:40:40.000 Yep.

01:40:42.000 That's right.

01:40:44.000 Okay.

01:40:46.000 Kylie Miller says Democrats are going to lead us to another civil war because they can't define what a person is again.

01:40:53.000 Exactly.

01:40:53.000 Yeah.

01:40:55.000 That's that's that's how it goes, right?

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 Because you haven't seen him without the beanie on.

01:40:58.000 If you wanted to.

01:41:01.000 Sorry to interrupt your super chat.

01:41:02.000 the guest Friday I was baffled I didn't know you had such a big brain even if

01:41:07.000 you haven't seen without the beanie on sorry I know that's right I like the

01:41:12.000 the there's someone made a paintbrush meme of my head is a hot-air balloon and

01:41:16.000 I'm holding the basket and I don't know how it works That's a good one.

01:41:20.000 When I was like I saved it.

01:41:23.000 The funny thing is like uh you know Ben Shapiro he always like they make fun of him but he like laughs at the memes and stuff.

01:41:29.000 I wonder if these people genuinely think that they're angering people on the right with a lot of this stuff because I just I just think it's funny.

01:41:36.000 It's amazing.

01:41:37.000 Yeah. 0.57

01:41:38.000 You also do have a big brain.

01:41:40.000 I see it more without the beanie when your beanie's down.

01:41:40.000 I don't know.

01:41:42.000 No, but I think it's funny that you took the time to draw a picture of me in paintbrush.

01:41:49.000 Good for you.

01:41:49.000 And it's funny looking.

01:41:51.000 I don't know.

01:41:51.000 I'm not mad.

01:41:52.000 What am I going to be mad about?

01:41:53.000 I highly recommend you guys check out the hot air balloon meme.

01:41:56.000 It's really funny.

01:41:57.000 It's pretty good.

01:41:59.000 All right.

01:42:00.000 MD Crush says, 2000 mules the movie.

01:42:03.000 Is it even banned from you, Tim?

01:42:05.000 It's not banned for me.

01:42:06.000 I just didn't see it because it was Mother's Day weekend.

01:42:09.000 And yeah, I don't know.

01:42:10.000 It's like busy weekend.

01:42:12.000 I didn't know what it was till today.

01:42:13.000 I heard people kept telling me about it.

01:42:15.000 I was, I was, I watched, I was watching clips.

01:42:17.000 So I've seen some clips so far.

01:42:19.000 I saw Rumble experience some sort of attack.

01:42:22.000 I think their official statement was that there was an attack on their servers when it went up.

01:42:25.000 People wanted to stop it from being seen or something.

01:42:27.000 Not going to work.

01:42:29.000 All right.

01:42:30.000 M.D.

01:42:31.000 Crush, as you can see, 2000 Mules, the movie on Rumble.

01:42:34.000 That's right.

01:42:35.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:42:36.000 says, Tim, Daryl, okay, so there's no fighting fire with fire.

01:42:40.000 Voting may work, but it's months away.

01:42:41.000 Is there any street action that could actually work?

01:42:44.000 Protests?

01:42:45.000 Peaceful?

01:42:46.000 I think that is charging into the enemy's strength.

01:42:50.000 Peaceful protests?

01:42:51.000 Well, you open yourself up to provocateurs, obviously, things like that.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, it's dangerous.

01:42:58.000 Anytime anybody on the right, no matter how moderate, congregates in public, you're definitely playing with fire, for sure.

01:43:05.000 What is the goal that they're asking to accomplish?

01:43:08.000 Winning the culture war in politics?

01:43:10.000 That's not specific enough.

01:43:11.000 Tell me the goal and I think the answer will become evident.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, I guess it depends on the context, right?

01:43:15.000 Like, if you think about the parents at those school board meetings, that was pretty effective.

01:43:19.000 Obviously, they tried to come down on them, but it's having an effect and things have maybe moved a little bit in their direction.

01:43:24.000 I think that the right, you know, has to be very smart and sort of use a kind of political jujitsu anytime they do anything.

01:43:32.000 You know, they have to try to take advantage of single points of failure in the enemy's defenses, do things that produce predictable overreactions, So that those are the kinds of things you have to do, because that's a good thing about having a very emotional enemy.

01:43:47.000 You know, a very emotional opponent is you can kind of predict what they're going to do for the most part.

01:43:52.000 And, you know, I think about, for example, I remember when the Democratic primaries were going on in 2020 and CNN did an LGBT town hall.

01:44:02.000 Cool, fine.

01:44:03.000 And you had all the Democratic candidates there, and they kept trotting out these, like, six-year-old, seven-year-old kids.

01:44:10.000 Be like a seven-year-old boy, done up in full makeup and a dress, and he's a little trans child, right? 1.00

01:44:16.000 And now, all the Democrats who were there, they have pollsters, they have, you know, political advisors who can tell them that 90% of the United States thinks that a six-year-old trans child is, that that's crazy, right? 0.57

01:44:29.000 That that's not a winning issue.

01:44:31.000 Every single one of them had to bend the knee and say, I'm so proud of you.

01:44:34.000 This is so amazing.

01:44:35.000 You're doing so great.

01:44:37.000 Even though they know that there are political consequences to that because they have no choice.

01:44:41.000 And there are a lot of issues like that, that if you can draw them out into public, all you have to do is shine a light on them and they'll melt right before your eyes.

01:44:51.000 Alright, Seth Houser says, the baby's body is not the woman's body. 0.98

01:44:54.000 I am a conservative.

01:44:56.000 Can you confirm these details, Seamus?

01:44:58.000 Uh, yeah, I would confirm.

01:44:59.000 What, that he's a conservative?

01:45:01.000 Uh, well, I don't, you know, I don't know this individual personally.

01:45:03.000 However, the baby's body is not the woman's body.

01:45:08.000 ReallyBadVideo says, Did Ian seriously argue that a woman's eggs are alive yet cannot understand what a fetus is?

01:45:14.000 Were not we all born?

01:45:16.000 Did not we all require to be a fetus to be who we are today?

01:45:19.000 How was this ever even an argument?

01:45:21.000 Killing babies is not progressive.

01:45:23.000 Um, I do understand what a fetus is and that I do believe the egg is still a piece of living tissue.

01:45:28.000 Oh yeah, Ian?

01:45:29.000 Name three fetuses.

01:45:31.000 You got me, Tim.

01:45:35.000 All right.

01:45:36.000 Uh, where are we at?

01:45:38.000 D.E.

01:45:39.000 Poland says, Tim, please have on Abby Johnson, ex-Planned Parenthood director.

01:45:42.000 Seamus should know about her.

01:45:43.000 She's a lot of fun and can really speak to abortion. 1.00

01:45:49.000 Can you confirm this to us?

01:45:50.000 I'm not overly familiar with the work.

01:45:53.000 I do know of her.

01:45:54.000 Yeah, she's an ex-Planned Parenthood director who became pro-life.

01:45:57.000 Oh yeah, she's great. 0.94

01:45:59.000 Brett Tesdahl says, I am increasingly convinced that abortion is the Kobayashi Maru of political debates.

01:46:04.000 What is that?

01:46:05.000 It was an impossible test in Star Trek.

01:46:08.000 It was meant to gauge how you would behave under absolute stress.

01:46:13.000 Right, if it drives us to anger and then conflict, we've lost the point.

01:46:20.000 Nick says, Ian, he says, Ethan, do you recall the TNG episode where LaForge was stranded with a Romulan who thought he should have been aborted because he was blind?

01:46:29.000 Uh, I don't, if that's where they're in the cave, no, I don't think, I saw them all, but I don't off the top of my head remember that.

01:46:34.000 Yeah, and they were like slowly dying.

01:46:36.000 And they were like starving to death or something?

01:46:38.000 No, like something was slowly killing them, was it, or whatever?

01:46:40.000 I don't know, it's been a long time.

01:46:41.000 I always like those when they put two cultures, like opposing cultures together in a room and they're forced to deal with it. 0.99

01:46:46.000 No, I think that's illegal to make a booby trap of any kind like that.

01:46:49.000 future people. There is the booby trap time capsule argument. Do you have the right to

01:46:54.000 rig a time capsule to kill whoever opens it 100 years from now? They aren't born yet. 0.98

01:46:59.000 If you open the time capsule now, sucks to be you.

01:47:01.000 Uh, no, I think that's illegal to make a booby trap of any kind like that.

01:47:07.000 But they're not alive right now.

01:47:08.000 Maybe dead.

01:47:09.000 Like it specifically targets a unique person's genetics 100 years in the future that you

01:47:15.000 Well, like, they bury a time capsule.

01:47:17.000 And then when you dig it up and open it, it blows up?

01:47:19.000 Whoever opens it first, yeah, something crazy happens.

01:47:20.000 Can you build something that will become a booby trap in 100 years?

01:47:26.000 I don't know.

01:47:27.000 Like, uh, you have some piece of, I don't know, iron that rusts and erodes and then Be a wild thing to do.

01:47:36.000 Breaks open. 0.92

01:47:37.000 Like, I hate, I don't know what the people of the future are about, but I hate them. 0.98

01:47:43.000 Well, when the progressives keep saying that the future is going to be progressive, you know, you might get some crazy person who would think something like, I'm going to stop these crazy people. 0.97

01:47:51.000 But I guess the philosophical argument is, if you can kill, can you kill someone who's not alive today? 0.79

01:47:56.000 No, no, you cannot.

01:47:58.000 Well, like, then why not a fetus?

01:48:01.000 Have you guys seen that South Park episode where all the people in the future, there's no more jobs in the future.

01:48:07.000 So they're all immigrating back to the past and they decide, well, we have to stop this, like, you know, just flood of immigration from the future. 1.00

01:48:14.000 And so all the men turn gay. 0.88

01:48:16.000 And then, and then it starts working, but then they, no, no, no. 0.96

01:48:19.000 Then they realize if they make the future a better place, it'll stop the immigration. 1.00

01:48:23.000 But then they're like, wait a minute.

01:48:25.000 Why are we doing this? 0.93

01:48:26.000 Let's go back to the orgy pile. 0.91

01:48:27.000 I should clarify, you can kill someone that's not born today, although you might end up in prison for it, and it's not ethically viable to murder someone. 0.97

01:48:35.000 Period. 0.75

01:48:36.000 This is kind of a crazy... I've never heard this question before.

01:48:38.000 I know, I've never heard that before. 0.99

01:48:40.000 You're dead. 1.00

01:48:41.000 You're dead. 1.00

01:48:42.000 I'll be alive in a hundred years, I don't know about you.

01:48:44.000 I think it's certainly wrong, but it's an interesting question.

01:48:49.000 I think it would certainly be wrong to do it, but it is an interesting question.

01:48:51.000 I've never heard anybody ask that before.

01:48:53.000 It's a good one.

01:48:54.000 Because, like, people that time travel, like, would you go back into the past to kill Hitler to try to prevent World War II?

01:48:59.000 I got that question a lot.

01:49:00.000 Imagine if, like, right now, someone came from the future, just, like, appeared in this room and was like, I have to stop Seamus!

01:49:09.000 And we would do everything to protect Seamus.

01:49:11.000 Exactly.

01:49:12.000 Get out of here, liberal! 0.94

01:49:13.000 And then, like, when we catch this guy, he shows us, like, a digital news file, and it's like, Seamus is just, like, ultra-Hitler or whatever.

01:49:20.000 No, it wouldn't even be that, dude.

01:49:21.000 If, like, the progressives win, it's going to be the most benign thing ever.

01:49:24.000 It'll be like, he won time.

01:49:25.000 It'll be like, because I say the word hello, and they're like, that's a slur now.

01:49:29.000 We've decided you can't say that.

01:49:30.000 Or just some insane cultural shift.

01:49:33.000 No, it would be benign, but it would be like, he's this 50-year-old guy who leads the free speech movement.

01:49:39.000 We have to stop him!

01:49:40.000 It'd be something I'm doing now that's offensive that I'm not sure.

01:49:43.000 You gotta watch out because Looper, I don't know if you guys saw Looper, I don't want to spoil but I'm gonna spoil Looper so turn it down if you haven't seen it yet.

01:49:50.000 It's just the act of trying to kill the kid that turns him into the villain. 0.61

01:49:54.000 So don't try and kill Hitler, baby. 0.90

01:49:55.000 But that movie made no sense anyway. 0.87

01:49:57.000 Gizmos89 says, Tim, you always forget Generation X. No, I don't.

01:50:01.000 I don't forget Generation X. Generations basically very much skip, like Millennials were the children of Boomers for the most part.

01:50:08.000 There's a gradient overlap, but Gen X, like Boomers were like teenagers or like in their late 20s when, uh, well, I guess the problem is the generations can be long enough to overlap, but many Millennials are the children of Boomers.

01:50:22.000 That's the point.

01:50:23.000 How do you think about generations?

01:50:24.000 Like, I know a lot of people go by years, which I always thought was... Yeah, it's by years.

01:50:28.000 I always think that's kind of a crude way of looking at it.

01:50:30.000 Like, when I think about generations, I think about major changes in society and where you were at in your stage of life when they happened, right?

01:50:36.000 So, like, when I think of a millennial as opposed to a Gen Xer, like, I'm 40.

01:50:41.000 I was born in 81.

01:50:43.000 I kind of consider myself like a really young Gen Xer for the most part because I remember what the world was like without the internet.

01:50:50.000 And the people who don't really remember that didn't live any portion of their adult life, I kind of consider millennials.

01:50:56.000 Yeah, I always thought of myself as Gen X. I was born in 79.

01:50:58.000 Millennials grew up without the internet.

01:51:01.000 Well, they grew up without it, but they didn't live any of their adult lives without it.

01:51:05.000 Right.

01:51:05.000 So for millennials, we had rudimentary internet as kids, but it was like 2007 is the singularity moment when the internet became ubiquitous.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, iPhones and stuff.

01:51:19.000 Exactly.

01:51:19.000 Have you seen that graph that chewing gum, like revenue purchases from chewing gum in 2007 just went Cratered.

01:51:28.000 And the theory that they have behind it is that everybody's playing on their phones in the supermarket line now.

01:51:33.000 It's as good of a theory as I can come up with.

01:51:37.000 All right.

01:51:38.000 Justin Barber says, Daryl Davis mentioned Goree Island.

01:51:41.000 I visited there in 2019 and it is a special place.

01:51:46.000 Is it pronounced Goree?

01:51:48.000 Goree Island?

01:51:49.000 360 on YouTube to see an immersive 360 video I shot on the island.

01:51:52.000 Cool.

01:51:52.000 Oh, neat.

01:51:53.000 Yeah.

01:51:53.000 Goree Eye?

01:51:54.000 Goree?

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:57.000 Okay.

01:51:58.000 Phantomkitsune0 says, when I traveled sea, I made an effort to try non-chain places and foods I could never find stateside.

01:52:09.000 I envy Southeast Asia.

01:52:11.000 There you go.

01:52:11.000 I envy Korea and Japan for having so many options.

01:52:14.000 Korea is fun.

01:52:15.000 It was funny.

01:52:15.000 When I was in Korea, they were like, Chicago pizza with, you know, like black sauce on it.

01:52:19.000 And I was like, we don't have that.

01:52:21.000 That's, I don't know what that is.

01:52:22.000 And it was like squid ink or something on the pizza or something.

01:52:25.000 Oh yeah.

01:52:25.000 That's, that's a thing.

01:52:26.000 You never got squid pizza?

01:52:28.000 I've actually, I've had, I've had squid pizza, calamari on pizza.

01:52:33.000 That sounds delicious.

01:52:34.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 Sounds good.

01:52:35.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 Had Giordano's earlier.

01:52:37.000 Did you have Giordano's earlier?

01:52:38.000 Did you invite me?

01:52:39.000 Why would I?

01:52:40.000 Because I'm the coolest guy in town.

01:52:42.000 It's true.

01:52:43.000 It was a crazy moment for me when I turned 21.

01:52:45.000 been made to seem undesirable, whereas by prolonging childhood and adolescence with

01:52:49.000 the college experience, we've warped the form of progression where it was exciting to enter

01:52:53.000 adulthood.

01:52:54.000 It was a crazy moment for me when I turned 21.

01:52:57.000 I used to play shows, right?

01:53:00.000 And so I would look for open mic nights, I would look for venues that allowed all ages,

01:53:05.000 and the clientele of these places was relatively small because you're dealing with basically

01:53:10.000 16 to 21 year olds.

01:53:11.000 Because younger than that, they're not really going off by themselves to these places because they can't drive.

01:53:17.000 So I'd go to these venues and I'd play.

01:53:18.000 And then when I turned 21, I was like, oh, I can go to this other venue.

01:53:21.000 And then all of a sudden, everyone there was like in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s.

01:53:27.000 And I'm just like, there are so many more different kinds of people now that it was kind of a crazy moment where I was like, wow.

01:53:35.000 It was like, like tutorial mode before this.

01:53:38.000 Now it's just so many different kinds of people that I... Everyone was like me.

01:53:42.000 Same age, into the same things, listening to the same music.

01:53:44.000 Then you go to a bar and everyone's like all different generations and it's like, whoa.

01:53:48.000 That was crazy.

01:53:50.000 I didn't have that.

01:53:50.000 Yeah.

01:53:51.000 That's awesome.

01:53:54.000 All right, let's grab some more Zupa chats.

01:53:56.000 Bliss Girl says, can Seamus and Tim please do your Chicago accent? 0.81

01:54:00.000 We're asking for a Chicago accent over here.

01:54:01.000 It's so hilarious and we could use a laugh, thank you.

01:54:02.000 It's actually very funny.

01:54:03.000 So this is Tim and I both had to go to speech therapy to not talk like this for the entire reason.

01:54:08.000 So we're actually reverting to our natural way of speaking there.

01:54:10.000 So when you go to Chicago, if you, uh, this is a secret, if you order your pizza with Chicago, we actually in here, hey, let me get the pepperoni with the, uh, extra cheese, yeah?

01:54:20.000 Then they give you free cheese sticks.

01:54:22.000 Go here's the cheese sticks there, bud.

01:54:25.000 Yeah.

01:54:25.000 Thank you.

01:54:27.000 Like, so you'll walk into a restaurant and there'll be a guy be like, welcome to Domino's, pizza in your bag.

01:54:31.000 Hey, I'm just like you, no need to put on the accent.

01:54:33.000 I'm like, ah, thank the lord, I can finally talk like a normal person.

01:54:37.000 Come over here.

01:54:38.000 Come over here, he pulls the old style can on the wall and a trap door opens.

01:54:43.000 Old style.

01:54:43.000 He throws you one.

01:54:45.000 Time to relax, bud.

01:54:45.000 It's delicious.

01:54:46.000 Thank you, there.

01:54:47.000 Hey, while we're here, you need your garage door repaired?

01:54:49.000 Because I do garage door repairs.

01:54:51.000 He's like, yeah, so do I though.

01:54:53.000 You guys want to go to Wrigley Field for a week and watch the Cubbies lose?

01:54:55.000 The Cubs, the Bears, Chicago.

01:54:58.000 No one in Chicago, even with a Chicago accent, says Chicago.

01:55:02.000 Chicago, no.

01:55:03.000 It's never, it's not a thing.

01:55:04.000 It's the weirdest thing, that's the one thing people think they do say they don't say.

01:55:08.000 That they don't say, it's funny because most of the people I know, like my dad for example, he almost, he like, under, like he, he does the opposite of a Chicago accent when he says Chicago.

01:55:17.000 You hear this from a lot of older guys from the city, they'll go like, Chicago.

01:55:21.000 It's... Chicago.

01:55:22.000 Yeah, they'll, they do not pronounce it like Chicago.

01:55:26.000 No, it's the E-A.

01:55:27.000 The Chicago A is the A sound.

01:55:30.000 So, E-Apple.

01:55:32.000 T-Axy. 0.93

01:55:36.000 To do the Chicago A, you gotta go E-A.

01:55:39.000 So, E-Apple.

01:55:40.000 It's like it starts with an E sound.

01:55:41.000 It's also stronger and softer in different areas, too.

01:55:42.000 It changes, like, the north side's a little different from the I didn't know I had a Chicago accent when I live in Chicago

01:55:51.000 because everyone around you talks the same And it's not until you leave people like I'll be talking to

01:55:56.000 someone on the go Yeppel and then I'll be like what and I'll say you said yeppel

01:56:00.000 and I'll be like yeah I said Apple and they go no you said yeah, but I said yeppel.

01:56:05.000 What's wrong with saying yeppel We talking about man. I said yeppel go to you know you

01:56:09.000 Yep Dixie cabbie to the Apple genius bear

01:56:14.000 All right NYBS FP says agree with Tim on ST regardless of what they

01:56:23.000 may have intended on ST Star Trek.

01:56:27.000 Oh, on Star Trek.

01:56:28.000 What they showed was people fighting for freedom from a government that eventually nuked them.

01:56:32.000 Who has the nukes?

01:56:35.000 China.

01:56:35.000 No.

01:56:35.000 David C. Cronk says, Tim, you are talking about the franchise that made Stacey Abrams the president of United Earth.

01:56:42.000 Talk about ruining a show. 0.73

01:56:43.000 You know what Picard is about?

01:56:45.000 Q. Have you ever seen Star Trek?

01:56:48.000 Not really.

01:56:48.000 I've seen a couple episodes.

01:56:50.000 I know who Q is. 0.98

01:56:51.000 He transports the characters to an alternate timeline where the galaxy is run by an earth empire of human supremacists. 0.55

01:56:59.000 And then Picard's like, we have to go back to the 21st century to stop something from happening that made humans racial supremacists!

01:57:08.000 And I stopped watching it.

01:57:09.000 I was just like, off.

01:57:11.000 And then Q was like, back in this time I had a messaging board where I used to post things about politics to mess with people.

01:57:16.000 Oh, Picard!

01:57:18.000 Don't you understand that the people of that time were racists?

01:57:21.000 Okay, Bill.

01:57:23.000 Q. I went to an antique store and found an unopened Q action figure from, like, 1992.

01:57:29.000 Needless to say, I bought it.

01:57:31.000 I'm very excited for that purchase.

01:57:33.000 Is that why they called that message boards Q is from the Star Trek guy?

01:57:37.000 I have no idea.

01:57:37.000 What?

01:57:38.000 I don't know.

01:57:38.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:57:39.000 What are you talking about?

01:57:40.000 No, because I was joking.

01:57:41.000 It's Q. Yeah.

01:57:42.000 No, that's the joke I was making.

01:57:43.000 It's just Q. It means like it's a classification level they think or something like that.

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 And the classification level was based on Star Trek.

01:57:51.000 Right, right.

01:57:54.000 Sam Whiter says, Tim, I've commented on this before that Star Trek has predicted the future and I believe that 2024 will be the deciding year since it's been shown in DS9 and Picard.

01:58:07.000 Perhaps.

01:58:08.000 Perhaps.

01:58:08.000 Hillary's going to become president and fix everything.

01:58:11.000 S.R.

01:58:12.000 Dempsey says Dragon Distillery in Frederick might be able to help you with your design goals.

01:58:17.000 Design goals for what?

01:58:18.000 Dragon Distillery?

01:58:19.000 Oh, I can confirm.

01:58:20.000 Queue clearance, queue access, authorization, U.S.

01:58:23.000 Department of Energy, security clearance required to access top secret restricted data.

01:58:27.000 I don't know if I believe it.

01:58:29.000 Christopher Shipley says, thank you again, Tim, for coming by 4D Fun Center over the weekend.

01:58:33.000 Also, thank you for explaining how cheap those Tony Hawk boards we had were.

01:58:37.000 Did some research after and marked them as starter boards.

01:58:40.000 I wouldn't even necessarily call them that.

01:58:42.000 We went to this place called the 4D Fun Center.

01:58:44.000 They had bowling.

01:58:45.000 They had an escape room.

01:58:46.000 We did an escape room.

01:58:46.000 That was fun.

01:58:47.000 It's a great place.

01:58:48.000 And won a bunch of tickets.

01:58:50.000 Played the arcade games.

01:58:52.000 They have a beer pong arcade.

01:58:53.000 Did you do the escape room?

01:58:54.000 Yeah.

01:58:55.000 Did you escape?

01:58:55.000 Yes.

01:58:56.000 Did you escape fast?

01:58:57.000 Uh, I think we had six minutes left out of a half an hour.

01:59:01.000 You get a half an hour to solve it.

01:59:01.000 But you know what the issue was for us?

01:59:03.000 Is that we were too smart.

01:59:05.000 We were too smart for our own good.

01:59:07.000 This actually is an issue.

01:59:08.000 So, you know, my brother was trying to point out, don't overthink the puzzles.

01:59:12.000 These are for like, this is a mass market thing.

01:59:15.000 Yeah.

01:59:15.000 It's like a kid's place.

01:59:17.000 Like, so the puzzles are simple.

01:59:18.000 People feel really smart.

01:59:21.000 Well, the puzzles were all like relatively simple like find the codes like a clock and it's like there's there's I don't want to give I don't want to spoil it but one of the things is that one of the objects in the room we thought was a code was actually all of the codes and we didn't realize that that would be the one anomalous thing and so we couldn't figure it out we were confused by it and that took us like 10 minutes.

01:59:40.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 There were longer ones.

01:59:42.000 There's like hour ones.

01:59:43.000 Yeah.

01:59:43.000 But the door was open the whole time.

01:59:45.000 I did one of those one time and we were looking like on the bottom side of the radio at the serial number and trying to figure out if it meant anything.

01:59:50.000 None of it meant anything.

01:59:51.000 It was like, you know, right over there.

01:59:53.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 The Daily Wire did an escape room challenge where they mixed and matched people and then they were competing against other Daily Wire teams, but it was teams.

02:00:01.000 So you got to see them interact and how they were getting stressed with each other, but having fun too.

02:00:05.000 Well, I have an idea.

02:00:06.000 Me and my friend had an idea a long time ago for something called the Hacker Games.

02:00:10.000 And the idea is to get a building, secure it in a variety of ways, digital keypad locks, security guards, pin and tumble locks, and then in the top floor in one of the rooms is the MacGuffin.

02:00:22.000 And the goal is to get the MacGuffin without being, like, being able to break into this building.

02:00:27.000 We would hire security guards but not tell them it was a show.

02:00:30.000 So we just hire a security guard and say, you know, don't let anybody in without the proper credentials.

02:00:36.000 You know.

02:00:37.000 But the thing is, it's so easy to get past a security guard.

02:00:40.000 You know the easiest way to get past a security guard?

02:00:42.000 At a venue at least.

02:00:43.000 Here's an example.

02:00:44.000 You just carry a bag of ice.

02:00:46.000 You put a rag in your back pocket, grab a bag of ice, and you will walk right past them and they will never ask you a question.

02:00:51.000 You hear that, security guards?

02:00:52.000 Eyes open.

02:00:53.000 Yep, look for those ice guys. 1.00

02:00:55.000 So then what happens if like you and all your friends each have ice?

02:00:59.000 Rags in your back pocket like up There's just a bunch of guys with ice if there was like two or three guys and you're carrying trays and ice You're gonna be and then you walk up at the security guard and go where do we put this stuff?

02:01:08.000 He's gonna be like try the kitchen.

02:01:10.000 You know, thanks, man.

02:01:10.000 You're gonna walk right past him.

02:01:12.000 I was at a venue once and I had a pass but they weren't allowing me to go backstage and So I walked, I just, the first thing you do is you own the place.

02:01:21.000 So I just walked past the security guard and then he went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and then he put his hand in front of me, he's like, where are you going?

02:01:25.000 And I was like, I'm working.

02:01:26.000 And he was like, no, no, no, no, no, you can't come in here without the right, you know, pass.

02:01:28.000 And I was like, I got the pass, it's right here, it's on my leg.

02:01:31.000 And he was like, that pass is not for here.

02:01:32.000 And I'm like, dude, I'm at work.

02:01:33.000 And he was like, sorry, bro, you can't come in.

02:01:35.000 And I was like...

02:01:36.000 So I went into the... I started walking around.

02:01:38.000 I saw a guy with a camera.

02:01:39.000 I was like, hey, come with me.

02:01:40.000 You want to go backstage?

02:01:41.000 He's like, yeah, come with me.

02:01:43.000 And then we started walking back towards the security guard.

02:01:44.000 Same guy again.

02:01:46.000 And then this time we both walked past and he goes, yo, yo, I told you you can't come.

02:01:49.000 And then I interrupted him and go, dude, we're working.

02:01:51.000 And he sees the camera guy goes, oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry, dude.

02:01:54.000 And then we walked backstage and hung up.

02:01:57.000 That's the idea for the game, so pick the locks or hack the codes and then try and find your way in.

02:02:01.000 I want to do it, it just requires getting to that point where we can set it up, so maybe in the next couple of years we'll get something like that going.

02:02:07.000 That would be a bluff skill in Dungeons & Dragons that you passed.

02:02:11.000 I gotta tell you, getting past security guards at corporate functions or at buildings is just like... I don't even understand what the point of having a security guard is, for the most part.

02:02:21.000 It's a deterrent.

02:02:23.000 Most people are rule followers.

02:02:26.000 I think it's mostly about insurance and...

02:02:31.000 Having a dedicated person for security issues, so something comes up They handle the job, but getting past security guard anywhere is just like I don't know man It's easy like you see it in movies all the time.

02:02:43.000 It's like you wait out by the door smoking a cigarette They open the door you go.

02:02:46.000 Hey, man, and just walk in it's like Geez all right.

02:02:50.000 Let's see we'll grab.

02:02:51.000 We'll grab one more oh Hangover Bear says, you talk about the financial crisis of the 2000s as if it was the only generation to go through one.

02:02:59.000 Talk to the kids that grew up from the mid-70s and mid-80s.

02:03:02.000 Yeah, I mean, what about boomers and the gas shortages and the inflation problem?

02:03:06.000 I mean, everybody.

02:03:07.000 And Vietnam?

02:03:08.000 There was a lot of bad stuff going on.

02:03:09.000 For sure.

02:03:10.000 Those things were, I think, a lot more recoverable when they were over, though.

02:03:15.000 Like, think about all of the 1960s college students who, and just young people in general, who decided to just take a few years off, go smoke weed out in the countryside and party it up and kind of do their...

02:03:27.000 Maybe go out and, like, engage in riots and protests and just be a revolutionary.

02:03:32.000 And then a few years go by and, yeah, it's time to, like, get my act together.

02:03:35.000 And they go off and they finish college and they go get a job at, like, a big law firm or something, right?

02:03:40.000 How many—all the Weathermen ended up—the ones who didn't get arrested for murder—ended up going and working for big law firms or going to universities.

02:03:47.000 Whereas it feels like today, you know, you get a—you know, people—these people had felonies on their records and they got done and they went and got jobs at universities.

02:03:56.000 It just feels like much more punitive today if you make mistakes or waste time, you know.

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02:05:03.000 Yes.

02:05:04.000 Guys, I'm gonna roll the 100-sided die.

02:05:06.000 I talked about Tim's bluff check earlier.

02:05:07.000 I rolled a 68 and I'm gonna give you a wild magic surge for that number now.

02:05:11.000 It's a 68.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, so if I was a wild mage, which I am, I permanently gain one cantrip.

02:05:18.000 A spell such as Remove Curse can end this effect.

02:05:21.000 So yes, I'm cursed, but it could be beneficial.

02:05:25.000 We'll find out.

02:05:26.000 I like this new tradition.

02:05:28.000 I just wanted to add before we left that we were talking about the Reddit thread about ladies getting off these dating apps and I want to give credit to Aaron McIntyre who says, I think that's what we're seeing here.

02:05:43.000 They do this all the time with families and they're like being all rebellious and everything and we're like, yes, this is exactly what we've been saying this whole time.

02:05:50.000 Anyway, for more hot takes like that, you guys can follow me on Twitter, Minds.com, at Sarah Patchlitz, and check me out on SarahPatchlitz.me.

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