Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - NYPD Demands Papers From CHILD, Arrest Anti Mandate Protesters w-Inez Stepman

00:00:04.000 In New York City, a video has gone viral.

00:00:06.000 A couple videos, actually.

00:00:07.000 One shows NYPD questioning a child and asking him for his vaccine papers, please!

00:00:14.000 And then they get removed.

00:00:15.000 TimCast.com did some digging, and it appears this wasn't a protest.

00:00:19.000 This appears to be just people who live in the area, probably from Jersey, who don't know about what's going on and are being denied service, and the police are the ones enforcing it.

00:00:27.000 In another viral video, there is a man who's been going around protesting, and now you have five people being arrested at a Burger King for demanding service and refusing to leave when they're questioned over their vaccine passports.

00:00:40.000 The police in the video are saying, look, you've been warned, you've got to leave, and if you don't leave, you will be arrested.

00:00:45.000 So here we go.

00:00:46.000 We also have the White House trying to walk back the statements that Biden made that there's no federal solution to what's happening.

00:00:52.000 So we're going to talk about all of this stuff.

00:00:53.000 We've got a lot of news today.

00:00:55.000 And joining us today is Ines Stettmann.

00:00:57.000 How's it going?

00:00:58.000 It's going great.

00:00:59.000 Thanks.

00:00:59.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:01.000 Sure.

00:01:03.000 I work for an organization called the Independent Women's Forum.

00:01:05.000 Sorry, can you pull your mic up?

00:01:07.000 Yeah, aim it.

00:01:08.000 So I work for the Independent Women's Forum and I'm very grateful to them for allowing me to opine for a living.

00:01:14.000 But I'm an education policy analyst.

00:01:17.000 Cool.

00:01:18.000 Well, thanks for coming.

00:01:20.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:20.000 And thanks for the whiskey.

00:01:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:22.000 You're getting the good stuff.

00:01:23.000 Strong start.

00:01:24.000 Yeah.

00:01:24.000 Well, also, I just wanted to say, as people are commenting, yes, I do eat a lot of cabbage.

00:01:29.000 There was an interesting conversation that happened before the show started.

00:01:32.000 And before we begin, I also want to officially declare That Bill Gates is not a scientist and not a medical doctor.

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00:01:55.000 Thanks for having me and this should be a very interesting show.

00:01:59.000 Chris Carr.

00:02:02.000 I thought I thought I was Ian tonight.

00:02:03.000 Yeah.

00:02:04.000 Oh, is that true?

00:02:04.000 Yeah.

00:02:05.000 I mean, I'm taking Ian's place.

00:02:06.000 I've got the crystals.

00:02:07.000 Yeah.

00:02:07.000 I'm all set.

00:02:10.000 You don't want to know what Ian did to that thing.

00:02:11.000 I'm a very poor replacement for Ian.

00:02:14.000 I can't tell the difference.

00:02:15.000 Yeah.

00:02:15.000 Chris Carr, the executive editor at TimCast.com.

00:02:18.000 Please check out our work as often as possible.

00:02:20.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:20.000 Yeah.

00:02:21.000 I am happy to switch camera to unsuspecting people all night long.

00:02:24.000 I plan to do that.

00:02:25.000 I am sitting in the corner as well.

00:02:26.000 Sarah Patchlett.

00:02:27.000 Happy to have another lady on the show as always. 0.77

00:02:29.000 Why are we working?

00:02:31.000 It's limbo week.

00:02:32.000 The week after Christmas and to New Year's and nobody's working.

00:02:36.000 Ines, you're not even working.

00:02:37.000 Nope.

00:02:38.000 This is pure fun.

00:02:40.000 But you came over anyway.

00:02:41.000 Yeah.

00:02:42.000 Man, part of me is just like, if everybody else is not working, what am I I don't.

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00:04:59.000 Let's read this first story we got from TimCast.com.

00:05:03.000 Enforcement of New York City's vaccine mandate for children 5 to 11 to eat in public already appearing on social media.

00:05:10.000 The expanded key to the city guidelines have now impacted families in the city and tourists coming to experience the Big Apple.

00:05:17.000 The most notorious video is this one here, where you can see a little boy.

00:05:24.000 He's surrounded by NYPD officers who are demanding his vaccine papers, and they say, if you don't have the papers, you can't eat here.

00:05:31.000 Now, It's hard to know, to break down exactly what's happening because it's an Applebee's and they didn't want to give us all the details.

00:05:39.000 But we do have this.

00:05:40.000 Let me start from the beginning.

00:05:42.000 The rule expanded Monday to require anyone over the age of 12 to show proof of a complete two-dose vaccination.

00:05:48.000 A video circulating on social media Tuesday morning appears to depict an NYPD strategic response group attempting to eject a family from an Applebee's in Queen Center.

00:05:56.000 The family, which included young children, did not provide proof of vaccination.

00:06:01.000 Anyone five and up must show a vaccine card in order to eat here, Jose Perez, manager of the Applebee's in the Queen Center, told Timcast.

00:06:08.000 We have been attacked by protesters and our staff is on edge and the police have been helpful.

00:06:13.000 While Perez said he cannot comment on that incident seen in the video, he said that no kids have protested.

00:06:19.000 He added, I am tired of having to answer these questions.

00:06:22.000 People have been calling nonstop and we have work to do here.

00:06:25.000 It's very busy.

00:06:26.000 Well, I wonder if it's just journalists calling, but good on the people who are calling and asking questions.

00:06:31.000 Now here's something I think is very important.

00:06:33.000 We have a quote here.

00:06:34.000 Christina Myers, a host at Margaritaville Resort in Times Square, said she turned away more than 20 would-be diners by midday.

00:06:43.000 They can eat outside, but who is going to eat outside with 5 and 6 year old kids in this weather?

00:06:47.000 Foreigners don't understand why we had to turn them away. 1.00

00:06:51.000 Even people from Union City in New Jersey were confused.

00:06:54.000 That's the point that I think is most important here.

00:06:57.000 When I saw that video of that little kid being, you know, questioned by the police, I lived in Union City, just on the other side of the river.

00:07:04.000 No mandates as far as I know right now.

00:07:05.000 So people are coming across into Manhattan confused as to why they're being ejected from these businesses.

00:07:10.000 This is not just foreigners. 0.54

00:07:12.000 This mandate means that people in the greater New York metro are going to be impacted by this.

00:07:17.000 And I gotta tell you, I see a video of cops asking a child for their papers and none too pleased with it.

00:07:25.000 Absolutely.

00:07:25.000 They should be ashamed of themselves.

00:07:27.000 Following orders is not an excuse.

00:07:29.000 Illegal does not mean it's moral.

00:07:31.000 Ten cops while the city is being plagued with crime and violence.

00:07:35.000 Going after a five-year-old because he didn't get ... government permission to eat at Applebee's I mean are ... you freaking kidding me this is a new level of deprived ... politicization of the police force of the authorities that ... are abusing their powers in order to appease these ...

00:07:53.000 Issuing these decrees that are absolutely totally backwards ... and nonsensical and the details here matter because at ... first when I saw the video I was like oh man why are why are ... protesters bringing their kids to this and having them ... interact with police officers being traumatized in this way ... but but the fact that these people weren't protesters the ... fact that they were just there trying to enjoy their meal ... 0.85

00:08:12.000 Interrupted by police officer saying give me your ... paperwork or else is disgusting and I'm sick and ... tired to see this happen to a place that I grew up in ... destroyed by bureaucrats and plutocrats who don't give a ... damn about the people.

00:08:25.000 Sorry I just had to go on a ... rant because that makes me mad.

00:08:27.000 So I have, I guess, the contrarian take here, which is that I think that it's a positive thing the police are enforcing this as opposed to businesses.

00:08:35.000 I don't think this changes until people have a very clear line of accountability as to who is actually responsible for these mandates.

00:08:43.000 And what I actually think the way that the de Blasio administration has done this is really, really clever.

00:08:48.000 Because they have made the businesses, the bad guy, businesses that have been closed, forcibly closed for a year, they're trying to make back an edge in their businesses and they have been forcibly roped in to enforce this mandate.

00:09:02.000 So when I see police enforcing this mandate, I think that's the only way this is going to change because people see those videos, the one we're talking about right now, and they say this is not acceptable.

00:09:11.000 But when it's just a guy at the Applebee's turning you away, well that's not great video.

00:09:15.000 And by the way, when those businesses are protested, like BLM protested a restaurant that turned away some customers in the summer, those businesses are trying to stay in business as well.

00:09:27.000 They're unwilling participants in a mandate that is coming from the government, and therefore should be enforced by the government.

00:09:34.000 And that is how democratic change happens, is when people actually know who to hold accountable.

00:09:40.000 That's actually a good point.

00:09:42.000 You know, when people see videos and it's like, you're trespassing, and it's like the manager, everyone's like, well, it's a private business.

00:09:48.000 Seeing the police do it, well, now you've got the potentiality of the right and the left being like, we are all now mad at the police for doing this.

00:09:56.000 However, I kind of think the left is going to invert their police position now, and they're going to support the cops for doing this.

00:10:03.000 So it's not really going to have an impact.

00:10:06.000 Ultimately, if the left and the right both were like, OK, we're now angry the police are doing this, I'd be like, OK, well, you know, there you go.

00:10:13.000 Maybe now the police will back off and say we're not going to enforce this.

00:10:16.000 But I don't see that happening.

00:10:17.000 I do see the left just inverting their position because they're posting it on Twitter.

00:10:20.000 So as far as I'm concerned, I just take the individualist approach.

00:10:24.000 If the government performs, what was it, the Ash Experiment and the Milgram Experiment, was that what it was called?

00:10:30.000 Milgram.

00:10:30.000 Milgram and then the Ash Experiment was people willing to deny reality if the majority told them to.

00:10:36.000 So if you have people who are willing to just deny reality and then enforce edict because someone told them to, the problem is them.

00:10:42.000 I'll give you guys a really simple experiment they did that's really fascinating.

00:10:47.000 They put a person in a room.

00:10:49.000 And they said, we're doing a study here, we want you to fill out this application.

00:10:53.000 The application actually was the study.

00:10:54.000 They put him in a room, they had him fill out the form, and they blow smoke under the door.

00:10:58.000 When it was just one person in the room, they see the smoke, they run to the door, they feel it, they start yelling, there's smoke, there's smoke, fire, fire.

00:11:05.000 The next group they did, they put three people in the room.

00:11:08.000 And what did people do?

00:11:09.000 They saw the smoke, looked at the other two people, and then just ignored the smoke.

00:11:14.000 So if you've got people looking around and seeing no one taking action, it solidifies the problem.

00:11:20.000 Individuals simply need to step up and say, we won't do it, and you'll see people follow suit.

00:11:25.000 I don't think the left is going to defend this because the images are stark here and they're very important.

00:11:29.000 I mean we're seeing a child being intimidated by dozens of police officers.

00:11:34.000 This is not just one police officer enforcing this the NYPD is bringing out dozens of police officers men with guns that are going up to five-year-olds and saying hey give me your paperwork or you're in trouble.

00:11:45.000 That's disgusting and this isn't just happening in New York City.

00:11:48.000 This started in Italy.

00:11:50.000 It's going on in Germany.

00:11:51.000 It happened in France.

00:11:52.000 There's a picture going around that is depicting French police officers interrupting the Matrix movie inside of a theater going around asking people for their vaccine mandates, for their vaccine passports, for their government permission, domestic passport slip paper to be in a movie theater to watch a movie.

00:12:09.000 I mean imagine sitting at a movie theater trying to enjoy a meal And a police officer's giving me your paperwork, coming over your shoulder, breathing over you with weapons, violent men being like, give me what I want, give me compliance or else.

00:12:22.000 They're interrupting the movie, man.

00:12:24.000 That's the nature of political power, and I think it's important that the nature of that political power is clear and open and on a video that people can see.

00:12:33.000 I think, frankly, not just with regard to this, but with regard to many, many issues, the major problem in our institutions and in our political culture today is a lack of small d democratic accountability.

00:12:44.000 And I think there's a reason they enlisted businesses to do that.

00:12:47.000 It scrambles the lines of accountability.

00:12:49.000 To your point about people being willing not to comply, a lot more people are going to be pissed off and willing not to comply when they see five-year-olds being arrested than when somebody is screaming at the 22-year-old hostess at Applebee's.

00:13:04.000 By no means.

00:13:05.000 I totally disagree with both of you because would the blue-pilled normies see video like that?

00:13:10.000 They don't see it the way that we see it.

00:13:11.000 They're gonna look at that video and they're saying that poor child has an irresponsible parent that did not get three shots like I was conned into getting and now that parent should be held accountable for not taking care of their child and being a responsible parent and this is just fine.

00:13:26.000 They wouldn't say conned.

00:13:27.000 No, no, they wouldn't say that.

00:13:28.000 They'd be like, my kid did the right thing.

00:13:30.000 What a terrible parent. 1.00

00:13:31.000 Exactly.

00:13:32.000 I don't think there's a lot of people out there like that.

00:13:33.000 I think there's a perception that there is a lot of those people out there, but I think that's carefully curated and manipulated.

00:13:38.000 I think a lot of people are saying, hey, the first one didn't work.

00:13:41.000 The second one didn't work.

00:13:42.000 Now the third one's going to magically work.

00:13:44.000 Why?

00:13:44.000 How?

00:13:44.000 Where?

00:13:45.000 Where's the data?

00:13:46.000 Where's the science?

00:13:46.000 What's going on here?

00:13:47.000 A lot of people have some very serious questions that the medical professionals are not answering in this country, and they can't answer those questions.

00:13:53.000 And that's leading to a lot of people being like, hey, Why are we giving up our human rights, our rights to even sit alone at a restaurant, our rights to be alone and watch a movie in peace, to these bureaucrats that aren't keeping us safe in exchange for this bargain that we're making with them?

00:14:07.000 Because that's the bargain.

00:14:09.000 They promised, we're going to give you safety, we're going to give you security, just give us your human rights, just give us your dignity.

00:14:14.000 Risky freedom over totalitarian security, any day.

00:14:18.000 But what's the end result of this then?

00:14:20.000 What, abolish the police?

00:14:21.000 Everybody in New York gets mad at cops and says, defund and abolish?

00:14:24.000 No, I think this is the end result of this is when people start to actually feel the pain of the policies.

00:14:31.000 They have an opportunity.

00:14:32.000 This is still a democratic country.

00:14:34.000 They have an opportunity to change those policies.

00:14:36.000 And I agree with you.

00:14:37.000 I think even in New York City that there are a lot of people who are, let's say, not like the folks around this table, but are still they see that video and they see like this is going too far.

00:14:47.000 This is a problem.

00:14:48.000 I think there are still a lot of people who just don't pay attention to how and in what sort of mechanism this stuff is being enforced.

00:14:58.000 And again, when they're asked by the 22-year-old waitress at Applebee's, they don't get mad.

00:15:02.000 But when they see a 5-year-old child arrested by the police or harassed by the police, they do.

00:15:07.000 And they start to actually think about whether or not That law makes sense.

00:15:12.000 I mean, this is the the Lincolnian thesis, right?

00:15:14.000 The best way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it strictly.

00:15:16.000 That's a paraphrase.

00:15:18.000 He didn't actually say that, but the gist of the speech he gave was exactly that, and he was referencing Fugitive slave laws, right, which he was radically against.

00:15:28.000 And he said, actually, if these laws are on the books, we should enforce them because that is how people will realize this is a bad idea.

00:15:36.000 If we selectively enforce it or we muddy the lines of accountability, we have no way of actually changing people's minds and getting rid of stuff like this.

00:15:43.000 So I'm glad to see the police enforce this instead of the waitress at Applebee's.

00:15:47.000 It reminds me of that scene from V for Vendetta, when the inspector is like, eventually someone will do something stupid, and it shows the little girl skipping, and she's wearing the Guy Fawkes mask, so the cop shoots her, and then all the locals just walk up with, like, pipes and crowbars.

00:16:01.000 When people start seeing five-year-old children being surrounded by cops in question, having their papers, Amanda, I agree with what you were saying.

00:16:07.000 You know, it's gonna set off a lot of people, probably a lot of moms, I'd imagine.

00:16:10.000 Yes, he's correct.

00:16:11.000 That's a huge powerhouse.

00:16:12.000 This is what Steve Bannon was telling us.

00:16:14.000 Women control the political landscape. 1.00

00:16:16.000 What did he say?

00:16:17.000 The French Revolution didn't happen until the women came out of their houses and marched 1.00

00:16:19.000 and then it was like, uh oh.

00:16:21.000 So when, I think you see these kids.

00:16:23.000 There was a march like that before the Bolshevik Revolution too.

00:16:26.000 Wow, see there you go.

00:16:27.000 That's what International Women's Day is a celebration of. 1.00

00:16:30.000 That's why it was originally celebrated by communist countries.

00:16:33.000 It's the women's working march.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, you see, I think little kids being surrounded by cops, you're going to have a lot of women who are going to be upset about that. 1.00

00:16:40.000 Not only that, people are being sent off to camps in Australia.

00:16:43.000 There's police officers walking up to individuals being like, we need to check your cup.

00:16:46.000 We need to make sure that there's coffee in there, because if there's not, you're in trouble.

00:16:51.000 What kind of world did you want to be living in where violent thugs with guns come up to you and demand for you to show them your coffee because you're walking down the street?

00:17:00.000 Are you kidding me?

00:17:01.000 That's not a world I want to live in.

00:17:02.000 That's an absurd world.

00:17:03.000 A world that, of course, is carefully put into place by top-down central controllers.

00:17:09.000 And this is what they want.

00:17:10.000 This is what they called for.

00:17:11.000 And they're only going to get it if people consent and acquiesce to it.

00:17:14.000 And I think a lot of people had enough.

00:17:16.000 That's my perspective.

00:17:17.000 That's how I think it's going.

00:17:18.000 I think it's important that we make sure that there are still venues for people to express that they've had enough because a lot of not only the COVID sort of regulations, but a lot of our policy is decided in this country by unelected bureaucrats, and they don't have any reason to listen to ticked-off parents, right?

00:17:38.000 And so I think, I don't know, I tend to think of a lot of political problems in this way.

00:17:41.000 I really think that what we need at this moment, and I'm not always, I'm a conservative, I'm not always sort of enthusiastic about small d democracy.

00:17:49.000 I don't think it's always the best sort of answer.

00:17:53.000 There is a danger of the tyranny of the majority.

00:17:57.000 But I think in our particular moment, we're not in danger of the tyranny of the majority.

00:18:01.000 We're in danger of the tyranny of the unelected minority, essentially.

00:18:04.000 We were talking about this a couple years ago, Tim.

00:18:07.000 A specific study that was done showing how democracy was a joke and how the major policies that people wanted were never passed.

00:18:14.000 The policies of special interest groups were passed, showing how essentially the works of Congress is being done by the people who have the power, who have the money, the special interests, essentially all of them.

00:18:25.000 I forgot the name of that specific study.

00:18:27.000 There was a chart that showed that public opinion had a 0% impact on public policy, and that the opinions of wealthy elites had a massive impact on public policy.

00:18:39.000 But that is what you get when you slow off political decision-making into bureaucracies.

00:18:46.000 Washington, D.C., and to a lesser extent the states, but primarily in Washington, D.C., the vast majority of political decisions are not made by Congress.

00:18:55.000 This is what was so absurd about AOC, for example, being mad that West Virginia has a powerful senator.

00:19:02.000 The reality is the views of Brooklyn are reflected much more in an elite class, like a managerial class of bureaucrats, and those people are not responsible to the majority.

00:19:13.000 Most of our political decisions are made either by bureaucrats or by courts, which are properly placed beyond democratic control.

00:19:21.000 But they've gone beyond what they're supposed to be ruling on.

00:19:24.000 Between those two things, there's a smaller and smaller space for the people to express any kind of opinion or displeasure with the direction of policy.

00:19:31.000 I want to pull up this story we have here from The Hill.

00:19:33.000 Biden says if medical team advises it, he'll issue domestic travel vaccine requirement.

00:19:39.000 Now, Joe Biden is elected.

00:19:42.000 But you were just talking about how there's unelected bureaucrats. 0.92

00:19:46.000 I think another issue here is that there's rule by edict.

00:19:50.000 So with these vaccine mandates in New York, it's an executive who just says, I'm going to do it without approval of the courts, without the legislative body.

00:20:00.000 This is what we're getting now across the board.

00:20:02.000 People like Biden.

00:20:03.000 Threatening domestic travel requirement or domestic travel vaccine mandates.

00:20:09.000 They're basically saying, we're going to do this anyway.

00:20:12.000 And then it will get a good three months before the courts actually intervene and do anything about it.

00:20:16.000 So it's rule by decree.

00:20:18.000 Aside from, you know, like the Senate parliamentarian and other issues, we are just continually getting governors, mayors, and the president doing whatever they want.

00:20:28.000 And there seems to be no recourse or opportunity for a redress of grievances.

00:20:33.000 Fauci just came out and said it the other night.

00:20:35.000 He was just like, look, if it basically gets more people vaccinated, then it's a good thing, at the end of the day.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, he admitted the mandates are just kind of a way to manipulate people to get vaccinated.

00:20:46.000 Totally against the Nuremberg Code.

00:20:47.000 Exactly.

00:20:48.000 Instantly.

00:20:48.000 But he said it out loud.

00:20:49.000 He said it was a mechanism.

00:20:50.000 It was just a mechanism.

00:20:51.000 It's a mechanism.

00:20:52.000 It's not for your safety.

00:20:53.000 It's not for your well-being.

00:20:53.000 It's not for your health.

00:20:54.000 It's not for you to look out.

00:20:56.000 It's for you to buy a product.

00:20:57.000 Not a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

00:20:59.000 No, no, no.

00:20:59.000 No?

00:21:00.000 That's not true?

00:21:02.000 The Nuremberg Code that people are referring to states that you have to consent to participate in a trial study.

00:21:08.000 And so the argument is that because they're still doing long-term trials on the vaccine, no one's consent— you're literally consenting to it.

00:21:16.000 I understand the vaccine mandates basically are coercing people into doing it, so that's the gray area.

00:21:21.000 I just want to clarify, I suppose.

00:21:24.000 When you have an emergency use authorization for a vaccine, it's not in the same territory as putting a human being in a laboratory setting and then, you know what I mean?

00:21:34.000 That's what I'm trying to clarify.

00:21:35.000 There you go.

00:21:36.000 Well, the argument that I heard is that coercion is a strike against that, because if you're coercing people to participate in that kind of environment, then it's also against the Nuremberg Code, because that is coercion.

00:21:45.000 Yeah.

00:21:46.000 If you can't travel and you have to get this forced shot, then that's coercion to participate in a medical experiment.

00:21:52.000 You know what, I'm gonna go ahead and say, I stand corrected on that one, you know why?

00:21:56.000 First, I'm not a lawyer, so I can't tell you if it actually does violate the Nuremberg Code, but I'm gonna walk that back and just say, actually, you know what?

00:22:02.000 That's a good point.

00:22:04.000 The issue is that people, so long as there is phase, I think it's phase two, what phase are we on?

00:22:10.000 They're doing long-term trials right now.

00:22:12.000 Actually says it's on the FDA insert.

00:22:14.000 Phase two, I believe we're in right now.

00:22:16.000 No, we've done phase two trials.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're past that.

00:22:19.000 Phase 1 is safety.

00:22:21.000 Phase 2 is efficacy.

00:22:23.000 Those are the trials that have been completed with 100,000 people or more.

00:22:27.000 The FDA insert for the Pfizer vaccine says long-term studies are still being done.

00:22:32.000 So, you're going to get people on the left saying, it's EUA authorized, it's already gone through the safety trials, so it doesn't qualify in that capacity.

00:22:42.000 People on the right are saying, well, as long as they are doing studies on it.

00:22:46.000 I actually, I don't know, man, I kind of lean towards, I don't think, I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say it violates the Nuremberg Code.

00:22:52.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

00:22:54.000 This is all... Look, I'll put it this way.

00:22:58.000 We are polarized.

00:22:59.000 We are completely polarized.

00:23:00.000 There's different worldviews on what is happening.

00:23:05.000 I'll just put it this way.

00:23:06.000 The left will say, it's EUA authorized, the studies have said it's safe, therefore, and the right's gonna be like, they haven't finished long-term studies, therefore.

00:23:14.000 Well, the New York Times came out with a bombshell article today talking about how some scientists are warning that too many shots could lead to people's bodies not being able to fight off COVID.

00:23:24.000 That's not me saying it, that's the New York Times that literally wrote a piece about this, which again is breaking the narrative.

00:23:32.000 of what we were previously told and believed to by the medical advisors.

00:23:36.000 Let me just pull that one up just to show you.

00:23:38.000 New York Times is struggling to load.

00:23:41.000 And the byline is specifically the most important part here that people really need to read and to think about, especially in the context of everything that we were told.

00:23:54.000 Go to the mine line.

00:23:55.000 I got it right here.

00:23:56.000 Look, look, look, look, look.

00:23:57.000 It says, other experts argue that not enough was known about the effects of a fourth shot and some scientists have raised concerns that too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body's ability to fight the virus, particularly among older people.

00:24:11.000 This is the New York Times reporting it.

00:24:13.000 So I want to wrap it back up to what you were saying about Nuremberg.

00:24:15.000 If we don't know They're already a point already the point where several

00:24:19.000 countries have said a fourth shot for immuno compromised I mean now I think you're getting into your circuit. You're

00:24:25.000 starting to get a dangerous territory over what what over what you're gonna mandate people

00:24:28.000 Get so the okay So from my understanding from what I've just learned about

00:24:33.000 the Nuremberg argument part of the argument is based on the definition of coercion

00:24:36.000 Is that not correct from my that's what I've heard. Yeah, so if you're gonna say that you can't oh, you can't travel

00:24:41.000 You can't shop you can't go to you know, the gym you can't go to movies

00:24:44.000 That sounds like coercion to me, but you I guess you would have to look up the definition and make sure that you're

00:24:48.000 arguing on I think you could literally, if that was the definition, you would be able to apply that to virtually any approved drug.

00:24:57.000 That's interesting.

00:25:00.000 Exactly this kind of article right in the New York Times This is assuming that people are adults and that they're that this is a novel virus that there are risks involved with it That like this is treating people as adults And the problem is that a lot of our public health institutions have not given people straight information.

00:25:19.000 They have given people a narrative of To try to manipulate them into behaving the way that they want at any given time, and that way changes, right?

00:25:27.000 We saw like the changes over time with regard to masks, right?

00:25:31.000 With regard to a thousand other issues.

00:25:33.000 I think that the problem is that we have not treated people as adults.

00:25:37.000 And sure, some people are irresponsible, but that's kind of the price of freedom in this country, is that there are, you know, people get to behave irresponsibly sometimes.

00:25:46.000 But I think the problem is we have not treated, again, we have not treated American citizens as adults.

00:25:52.000 We've been treated as pawns to try to, like, influence people.

00:25:56.000 Instead of just saying straight out, here's the information we have.

00:25:59.000 It may change because this is a new virus.

00:26:02.000 This is, you know, here's the recommendations that we're giving because, you know, we are studying this as experts and scientists.

00:26:08.000 But the problem is the entire premise of trust.

00:26:11.000 For the expertise and that entire class of quote-unquote experts and managerial class is shot.

00:26:19.000 You know, let's just be real.

00:26:20.000 I just want to add to your point.

00:26:22.000 That wasn't a pun, by the way.

00:26:23.000 They haven't leveled with us.

00:26:24.000 They haven't come out and said, hey, we don't know the data.

00:26:25.000 We don't know the information.

00:26:26.000 We're still collecting it.

00:26:27.000 This is the informed consent that you guys are taking here.

00:26:30.000 And it's surprising to see the New York Times release this article because it is important.

00:26:37.000 There are a lot of implications with those statements.

00:26:39.000 And there's also a New York Times editor that died recently of a heart attack that a lot of people have questions surrounding.

00:26:45.000 So this could be potentially the New York Times deciding to ask more questions after dealing with stuff internally.

00:26:54.000 We use mainstream news sources in a lot of our reporting.

00:26:58.000 And all the information that we have, save like Project Veritas, is despised by the media, but I trust Project Veritas.

00:27:06.000 But almost, I would say every single article we use, save like one or two, is NewsGuard certified, you know, established press.

00:27:13.000 And the information we get that talks about this stuff, it always comes from these sources.

00:27:17.000 When we get an article about people being arrested in Burger King by NYPD, it's the New York Post.

00:27:23.000 When we get stories about Hunter Biden, it's coming from the New York Post.

00:27:26.000 We got a story about a Ukrainian court saying that Ukrainians were meddling in the election, and that was the New York Times that wrote that.

00:27:33.000 You've got to weed through the garbage from these sources, but my point is, like, you can find the news and we use it.

00:27:41.000 So I'm just trying to say, like, I'm not surprised the New York Times wrote about this.

00:27:47.000 It just depends on who's writing about it, I guess.

00:27:49.000 But here's what I do want to say.

00:27:51.000 You know, we're talking about the Nuremberg Code and stuff, and I feel like that's probably a derailment. 0.82

00:27:55.000 We don't even need to bring that up.

00:27:57.000 We don't need to argue about whether or not it's a violation of some long-standing code or law.

00:28:01.000 What matters is coercing people into a medical practice is wrong, period.

00:28:06.000 I don't care for what reason.

00:28:07.000 I believe that if you walk up to somebody and you can see they've got a swollen knee, and you're like, you know what this person needs?

00:28:13.000 They need methylprednisolone.

00:28:15.000 Is that what they would give for a swollen knee? 0.90

00:28:17.000 Methylprednosalone?

00:28:19.000 I'm not sure what that is.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, what is that?

00:28:20.000 I think it's Oxycontin.

00:28:22.000 They're probably going to give you that.

00:28:23.000 Is that an anti-inflammatory steroid?

00:28:24.000 No, I don't know.

00:28:26.000 Google it for me.

00:28:27.000 Yeah, I'm looking it up.

00:28:28.000 If you see somebody and you're like, you've got a swollen joint and you need some kind of steroid to, you know, anti-inflammatory for this, and they say no, I say, okay.

00:28:39.000 Yep, that treats inflammation, severe allergies, flares of chronic illnesses, and many other medical problems.

00:28:44.000 You see, I was correct.

00:28:45.000 You were correct.

00:28:45.000 So if I go up to somebody who's got like a busted knee and I say, you know, you should, the doctor prescribed it, not me, take this methylprednisolone and they say, I choose not to.

00:28:53.000 Well then they can say, okay.

00:28:55.000 But if you go, nah, your knee's busted, no food for you, no movies, no restaurants, no flying, okay.

00:29:01.000 That's where it's like, let's not get into the weeds on the weird murky political stuff about Nuremberg or whatever, because we can just outright say it.

00:29:09.000 Don't coerce people into taking medications.

00:29:11.000 Or if you're obese, like imagine if you're obese or have an STD.

00:29:14.000 Imagine implementing the same restrictions on individuals for those lifestyle choices.

00:29:18.000 I mean, I know individuals in a society like that.

00:29:20.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:29:21.000 No, no.

00:29:21.000 So to me, I think the distinction then has to be, and I don't think you can avoid the whole discussion that way, because the distinction has to be things that Injure yourself versus others, right?

00:29:31.000 And now, especially in the last several months, it's become very, very clear that vaccinated people can pass this virus.

00:29:40.000 And to me, that makes the argument for the other side much, much weaker.

00:29:44.000 Because at the end of the day, I'm very pro-vaccine.

00:29:47.000 I have my vaccines.

00:29:49.000 But I think that at the end of the day, if it's not reducing transmission by any substantial degree anymore, then it becomes about It's like, you know, you're only hurting yourself.

00:30:01.000 You're only taking your chances yourself.

00:30:03.000 It's no longer an aspect of actually affecting anyone else because it seems very, very clear at this point that you are not preventing other people from getting COVID by being vaccinated.

00:30:12.000 What you're doing is making a decision about your own risk, which is ultimately an individual decision.

00:30:17.000 They would have to say testing mandates because if you get vaccinated and you can still get it and people are like you were saying before the show that people in New York all have Omicron like it's record-breaking there's like 50,000 cases or whatever and it's bad I mean you saying people are like flat on their back like I'm sick yeah I mean it's like a bad flu I mean I just got over it I caught it at a dinner party happy birthday to me it was my dinner But, you know, all seven people there were vaccinated.

00:30:48.000 Every single person was exposed.

00:30:49.000 The only person who didn't catch it, fortunately, or at least only had the sniffles.

00:30:54.000 One person who was the most medically fragile.

00:30:56.000 So I'm really, really glad that he did not.

00:30:58.000 But everybody else, like, everybody else got sick.

00:31:01.000 It's very, very clear.

00:31:03.000 That this is not stopping it.

00:31:05.000 So there's no justification now.

00:31:08.000 I think there has to be some balance between if you're affecting other people.

00:31:11.000 This is sort of the negotiation of a liberal democracy, how much the negotiation between the individual and the common good happens.

00:31:19.000 But there is no negotiation anymore, to my mind.

00:31:22.000 If you are not reducing the infection rate in the general population by being vaccinated, there is no argument.

00:31:29.000 We've been hearing a bit in the media that it's milder.

00:31:32.000 And there was one viral story saying it's like runny noses, but you were saying it's actually worse than that.

00:31:37.000 Like Luke brought it up earlier, he said it's like mild, and then you said... Well, I had friends who had it who just described it as a kind of runny nose, just like a cold.

00:31:45.000 But that's my experiences, your experiences are of course different.

00:31:48.000 Yeah, that's not what I've seen in New York City, but obviously that's anecdotal.

00:31:52.000 But worse than a runny nose?

00:31:54.000 Yeah, like flu.

00:31:56.000 Like, bad flu.

00:31:57.000 Most people I know who caught it, it's a week or two in bed, you know, high fever, feeling miserable.

00:32:03.000 This is just anecdotal, though.

00:32:04.000 I don't, you know, I can't, I can't, like... I just thought that was interesting, too, because before the show, you know, Luke had mentioned it.

00:32:10.000 Every anecdotal story I've heard on, like, Twitter is, like, these people are saying, I'm triple vaxxed and I was floored by this.

00:32:18.000 And then I see people posting, you know, images from news stories where it's like, it's not that bad, it's mild or whatever.

00:32:24.000 I, look, I don't know what we had.

00:32:26.000 I'm assuming we had Delta when it came here.

00:32:28.000 Worst sickness I've ever had.

00:32:30.000 I didn't feel like, I didn't think I was like, my life was on the verge of dying.

00:32:32.000 I thought I was gonna be in the hospital, to be honest, though.

00:32:34.000 You were in a very serious situation.

00:32:36.000 And Ian was bad, too.

00:32:37.000 Yeah, Ian was bad, as well.

00:32:39.000 I was taking different stuff, but that's a different story.

00:32:42.000 Do you know if your friends were specifically tested for a variant, or do they know which variant they had?

00:32:48.000 No, but, I mean, at the time, it's pretty clear what's circulating in New York City.

00:32:53.000 And also the fact that there was still some transmission protection with Delta, and the fact that every person that has either two or three shots is catching this makes it seem much more likely that it's Omicron.

00:33:08.000 Well, New York City is one of the most vaccinated places in the world, and on December 26th they had almost 25% of all cases in the United States presented here.

00:33:17.000 And in South Africa there's also a lot of preliminary data suggesting that this new Omicron variant is getting rid of the Delta variant and is creating a lot of people to have natural immunity and then a lot of people are reporting that South Africa is on the up and up right now and that they have reduced a lot of hospitalizations, a lot of admissions, a lot of deaths have fallen off completely in that country.

00:33:36.000 I think we're gonna see a spike in the next few weeks in hospitalizations even if it's much milder which I actually do believe You know, I think some of the data, the data from South Africa is not particularly helpful for the United States, because we are older, fatter, and we have a totally different percentage of vaccinated people, and so... Yeah, South Africa has very little, very little vaccination.

00:33:56.000 So, the data that's coming in from the UK, I think, is probably more relevant to us, and there seems to be good reason to think this is substantially milder, and it's resulting in a smaller percentage of people going to the hospital or dying, but a smaller percentage of a very, very large number If you are having 20,000 cases recorded a day, which means that the actual caseload is much higher than that, right?

00:34:18.000 You're still going to see probably an increase in hospitalizations.

00:34:22.000 I hope not.

00:34:22.000 But I think I think you're right, though.

00:34:24.000 I think after this, a lot of people will have natural immunity, which is something that is for some reason only America doesn't talk about natural immunity.

00:34:34.000 European countries consider like it's part of the policy calculation.

00:34:38.000 Israel keeps it as part of the policy calculation.

00:34:41.000 There's no reason other than bias and ideology, as far as I can tell, that natural immunity is not part of the conversation in the United States.

00:34:46.000 And no talking about early treatment as well, which is ridiculous.

00:34:50.000 We all heard Joe Biden the other day say there was no federal solution to this.

00:34:54.000 And I mentioned that that was a massive statement.

00:34:57.000 I saw people tweeting saying, oh, Joe Biden's giving up.

00:34:59.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, it's bigger than that.

00:35:01.000 Because he's basically saying everything they're pushing at the federal level is not going to be a solution to the problem.

00:35:06.000 And now we have the story.

00:35:08.000 Now get rid of your mandates, Joe.

00:35:10.000 Ron DeSantis's office joins Kristi Noem and a host of Republicans demanding Biden get rid of useless sweeping nationwide rules after he admitted there was no federal solution for COVID.

00:35:21.000 You know, when you look at Florida, and they have some of the lowest case rates in the country, cases of COVID, it's been going up.

00:35:29.000 And then you look at, say, New York or California or Illinois.

00:35:31.000 When you take a look at the mass exodus from states, it's clear.

00:35:34.000 The economy is being destroyed in these states that are locking down like crazy.

00:35:38.000 And it's not, it doesn't appear to be affecting the rate of transmission.

00:35:41.000 In fact, The lockdowns may have actually made things worse.

00:35:44.000 We saw this last year.

00:35:45.000 Can't believe it's been two years of this.

00:35:47.000 Last year when they said being confined indoors with recirculated air could potentially put you at risk.

00:35:54.000 That's why people going out and protesting or whatever they said were less likely to get it because they're outside.

00:35:58.000 Well, if Joe Biden really meant it, there's no federal solution.

00:36:02.000 DeSantis, Noam, and all the Republicans are right, and we should end all these federal policies.

00:36:08.000 Absolutely, 100%.

00:36:09.000 Well, that's the American system.

00:36:10.000 So in terms of previous pandemics, serious pandemics, now we've been lucky that since the Spanish flu, there's only been, in 1957, a not-as-bad pandemic.

00:36:22.000 But we've been lucky, essentially, that we haven't had a major global pandemic, which is, I realize, redundant.

00:36:30.000 So if you go back and look at, for example, yellow fever pandemics, outbreaks in the early United States, there are some very heavy-handed responses to that, but they were all state and local.

00:36:40.000 For example, there was a barrier set up between New York City and Philadelphia because yellow fever was spreading so aggressively.

00:36:49.000 People got turned out of their homes and their property was burned because that's how they thought the yellow fever was spreading.

00:36:55.000 So our system gives a lot of latitude to the states.

00:36:59.000 I think that's a good thing, that it gives a lot of latitude to the states, but there is no basis for A federal response.

00:37:05.000 And furthermore, it's not just sort of old letter of the law constitution.

00:37:08.000 It makes sense.

00:37:09.000 The rules for New York City, especially early in a pandemic when we knew very little, have to be different where you run into, you know, 200 people just walking down the street.

00:37:18.000 It makes absolutely no sense to apply those same rules in Montana.

00:37:21.000 The United States is a huge and diverse country.

00:37:24.000 And that's why our system of federalism, I think, is a good thing exactly in dealing with the pandemic.

00:37:28.000 So I guess I agree with Joe Biden.

00:37:30.000 There is no federal solution.

00:37:32.000 Well, we have this from the Daily Wire.

00:37:34.000 White House rushes to walk back Biden's admission of no federal solution to COVID-19. 0.97

00:37:39.000 Damn, I thought I was gonna agree with Joe Biden. 0.92

00:37:42.000 On Monday, despite his earlier promises to shut down the virus, Joe Biden informed governors there was no federal solution. 0.98

00:37:47.000 After his reversal of one of his key campaign promises sparked a huge backlash, the White House quickly moved to walk back his acknowledgement on that policy on Twitter.

00:37:55.000 The White House attempted to laud the support provided to state governments by the Biden administration.

00:38:01.000 Quote, the Biden-Harris administration is making sure states have what they need to tackle COVID, including 1,000 additional doctors and nurses, stockpiling millions of gowns, gloves, masks, and ventilators, adding vaccine and booster capacity, the White House tweeted, and more.

00:38:16.000 Well, I think you can interpret it that way.

00:38:19.000 They're trying to walk it back a little bit.

00:38:21.000 Because I think when Joe Biden said there's no federal solution, a lot of people took it to say it was the white flag, like they were giving up.

00:38:27.000 And now they're like, no, no, no, no, we're still doing something.

00:38:28.000 We're still doing something.

00:38:29.000 But I think the cat's out of the bag.

00:38:30.000 The moment Joe Biden said that, he basically said Fauci's ideas, domestic travel bans, mandates, whatever.

00:38:37.000 Irrelevant.

00:38:38.000 Yeah, but what are they doing?

00:38:39.000 They're like, hey, we're going to give people gloves.

00:38:42.000 That's a federal, like, what are you doing?

00:38:44.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:38:46.000 If you really want to do something, you know, there's a lot of things you could be doing, especially when it comes to building up people's terrains, helping people, you know, have proper immune systems, talking about diet, talking about exercise, proper sleep, getting rid of stress, stopping the fear mongering.

00:39:00.000 There's a lot of things that they could be doing, but obviously That their only bottom line is we have a product you got to take this product and and that to me is ridiculous and to see them kind of backtrack with this in this kind of lame attempt just shows you have how fragile this administration is how susceptible it is to criticism and and how absolutely weak it is it should absolutely be a state's issue and we saw the different states approach this differently Florida did a lot of things differently than New York did

00:39:29.000 And a lot of people argue, socioeconomically and also medically, Florida made absolutely the right moves.

00:39:35.000 And I think the more we decentralize power and authority, the better off we're going to be.

00:39:40.000 The people will have more choices, and the people are going to be represented a lot better than the federal top-down bureaucracy, which obviously prioritizes a product over everything else.

00:39:50.000 But the data proves it.

00:39:51.000 Just real quick, sorry.

00:39:52.000 Sure, sure.

00:39:53.000 And we'll get into this in a second, but people are fleeing California and New York, and they're going to Florida and Texas.

00:39:57.000 Absolutely.

00:39:58.000 Because of the state issues.

00:39:59.000 Because their economies are open.

00:40:00.000 They have economic opportunities.

00:40:02.000 They don't have restrictions.

00:40:03.000 They don't have mandates.

00:40:04.000 They don't ruin people's lives in the name of selling a product.

00:40:08.000 Let's call a spade a spade here.

00:40:09.000 Well, on that subject, more people left California than went to Florida.

00:40:12.000 And I think it was like over 200,000 people went to Florida.

00:40:16.000 But in that moment, did Biden pivot to Trump in April 2020 when he was basically just like, we're gonna leave it up to the states?

00:40:23.000 I think what he said is that I'm gonna give them the flexibility to deal with this pandemic the way they see fit.

00:40:30.000 Which the media pilloried him for.

00:40:32.000 For merely stating the fact that we live in a federalist system and most of the decisions with regard to police power, which includes the power of uh... to to deal with pandemics are done on the state level

00:40:44.000 in america they absolutely pillory him for that will first prompted

00:40:48.000 the two weeks to slow the spread

00:40:50.000 then he was like okay uh... the state's got this and that's it in the approach

00:40:53.000 from the very truck trumpet was actually like we don't have the authority to

00:40:57.000 mandate these things to shut down the states is going to the governors

00:41:01.000 the problem with that Pennsylvania?

00:41:02.000 this pissed me off is that we had multiple governors kill a bunch of

00:41:06.000 elderly in their nursing homes. There's talk of settlements now, lawsuits over

00:41:09.000 the elderly people, Cuomo being the greatest example but it wasn't just him.

00:41:13.000 Michigan, New Jersey. That's right. Didn't California do it too? Pennsylvania?

00:41:17.000 New Jersey. New Jersey. Cuomo knew. He was warned if you put these recovering people

00:41:22.000 who have COVID and they're still infectious in the He did it anyway. 0.76

00:41:27.000 That's what happens when you leave it up to the states and the federal government does nothing.

00:41:31.000 At the very least, I can understand Trump being like, I can't force the states to do something, but he certainly could have sent in the DOJ or someone when they killed a bunch of old people.

00:41:40.000 And he didn't do that either.

00:41:42.000 That was like, what was that?

00:41:43.000 March or May was when Cuomo was doing this.

00:41:47.000 March and April.

00:41:50.000 This is slightly conspiratorial, but probably not for this crowd.

00:41:54.000 I think that the reason that Cuomo was forced out of office over mostly minor Me Too charges is because if he was forced out of office over this scandal, it implicates a bunch of other Democratic governors who all made that same decision.

00:42:08.000 So I think it was just very inconvenient for the Democratic Party to have that investigation continue, so they threw him under the bus.

00:42:14.000 And I'm no, like, sort of Cuomo, whatever, booster.

00:42:18.000 But I think that this, a lot of the charges are either minor or I think, you know, that frankly I'm not sure that they happened, right?

00:42:28.000 So I just think that's probably why he was forced out because otherwise they would have to actually talk about the fact that these policies weren't just in New York.

00:42:37.000 I do love how Cuomo put out that video montage of him grabbing a bunch of people, being like, these people who are really mad that I grabbed them, I grab everybody!

00:42:45.000 And he's grabbing people's heads.

00:42:48.000 It's a combination of things that are minor, right?

00:42:50.000 I would consider them minor, like they're rude.

00:42:53.000 A man might deserve to get slapped in the face or a drink in the face for some of the things that he did, but they aren't assault.

00:42:59.000 And then there are only one or two of the charges that rise to any level of seriousness, and those are the ones I have the most doubts about.

00:43:04.000 That man was a monster, but there is definitely something bigger when it comes to the overblown accusations and charges that the corporate media went after him for.

00:43:12.000 But didn't those accusations come out, like, right around the time people were calling out the killing of the old people?

00:43:17.000 Like, the story just has shifted into the Me Too stuff.

00:43:19.000 Right on the heel.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:20.000 Buried the murders.

00:43:23.000 I was really convinced by a friend of mine's theory that the Republicans should, when they were impeaching, when Cuomo was not going to resign and they were drawing up articles of impeachment, the Republicans, there were enough of them in the assembly in New York To say they will not vote for impeachment, even though they're obviously the opposing party and wanted Cuomo out, unless the nursing harm, there was an article in the impeachment about the nursing home scandal.

00:43:49.000 But of course they did not do that and Cuomo ended up, they wouldn't have had the balls to do it anyway, but Cuomo ended up resigning so that that opportunity was gone.

00:43:55.000 But I think that would have been something really positive the Republican Party, even the minority, could have done in New York to make sure that it's formally in the document that this is part of why we're impeaching Andrew Cuomo.

00:44:04.000 Republicans doing something?

00:44:07.000 Surely not.

00:44:07.000 Hilarious.

00:44:08.000 Funny.

00:44:10.000 How often do we get these stories where Joe Biden says something and the White House panics and then retracts or pulls back and tries to walk it back?

00:44:16.000 That happens all the time.

00:44:18.000 Joe Biden must be like sitting in his basement watching reruns of Who's the Boss or something, just totally oblivious to what's going on in the real world.

00:44:25.000 And they bring him out, they give him the teleprompter, and that's why they don't want him answering questions.

00:44:30.000 Yeah.

00:44:30.000 That's why there was a really funny moment when he was talking to the press.

00:44:32.000 They, he had a list of the people he was supposed to call in, in what order.

00:44:35.000 And then he actually said something.

00:44:37.000 I can't remember exactly what he said, but one of the journalists

00:44:39.000 asked a different question.

00:44:40.000 He was like, I thought you were going to ask about, uh, anyway.

00:44:43.000 Yeah.

00:44:43.000 Cause it was, it's all, it's all prescripted.

00:44:46.000 It's all pre-written.

00:44:47.000 He has, what was it?

00:44:48.000 Someone saw that he had a list of journalists or something?

00:44:51.000 He had cheat cards with their photos and their names and their media organizations and the pre-scripted questions that they were going to ask him.

00:44:59.000 All of it, it's a show.

00:45:01.000 It's all entertainment. 0.99

00:45:03.000 It's Hollywood for ugly people. 0.99

00:45:05.000 I want to tell you, my friends, the media works. 0.98

00:45:08.000 It does.

00:45:09.000 I often say that this conflict we're facing, the culture war, has to do with the people who are paying attention and know what's going on and the people who don't.

00:45:15.000 The people who only watch mainstream media or CNN have no idea what's going on.

00:45:20.000 I can sit here and have very different opinions from you, Ines, but we agree on reality to a greater extent, and that's why we're probably having a conversation.

00:45:28.000 People like these lefty individuals.

00:45:31.000 We pulled up the Twitter bias of, say, Vosh, who is a leftist commentator.

00:45:35.000 He consumes 95% leftist sources, whereas most people here on the show, it's a balance of left and right.

00:45:42.000 I want to show you this.

00:45:43.000 I saw this on Reddit.

00:45:46.000 R slash political humor.

00:45:47.000 They wrote, it finally happened.

00:45:49.000 And then there's our good friend, Jeff Tirdrik, who rose to fame by responding to Trump.

00:45:55.000 He's a Trump Reply guy.

00:45:57.000 He tweeted, it's finally happened.

00:45:58.000 The family of raccoons that live inside Lauren Boebert's head have completely chewed through the wires. 1.00

00:46:04.000 And he's quoting a tweet from Lauren Boebert where she says, it's almost the end of 2021 and I've yet to see Biden mobilize true international depression like he promised.

00:46:15.000 What's the hold up?

00:46:17.000 This is fascinating.

00:46:18.000 I tweeted there accidentally mocking Biden but don't know enough to realize it.

00:46:22.000 This Jeff Tiedrich guy is saying that the raccoons have chewed through the wires in Lauren Boebert's head because Lauren Boebert quoted Joe Biden.

00:46:30.000 Albeit Lauren, you were wrong.

00:46:32.000 It's true international depression.

00:46:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:46:34.000 in a nana shaba depression. Get it right. That's what that's what Joe Biden said. And so I actually

00:46:41.000 I saw that it was on Reddit. It was like the front page get the thousands of comments of people being

00:46:46.000 like, Oh my God, Lauren Boebert is so dumb. And I was like, Lauren Boebert quoted Joe Biden and 0.98

00:46:52.000 you're calling her dumb and saying raccoons are eating her brain. Yo, that's what we think about 1.00

00:46:56.000 Joe Biden.

00:46:58.000 Why won't they get it?

00:46:58.000 Because the media didn't tell them this.

00:47:01.000 So the craziest thing is, when you pull up this dude's tweet, and you actually look at people responding, they're like, she's crazy.

00:47:08.000 I agree with Boebert.

00:47:09.000 Biden should be mobilizing all sorts of made-up words. 1.00

00:47:12.000 I'm trending for being stupid again. 1.00

00:47:14.000 All of these tweets calling her insane, crazy, an idiot, a moron, etc. 1.00

00:47:19.000 You only need to replace Lauren Boebert's name with Joe Biden because that's who she was mocking for, saying, "'Truan and Nana shabba da pressure.'" 1.00

00:47:27.000 He also said, "'Badda calf care.'"

00:47:29.000 I don't know what that is either.

00:47:31.000 And then, here's the best part.

00:47:32.000 On Reddit, I'm scrolling through the comments and I'm like, did anyone point out she's literally mocking Biden and they don't realize?

00:47:38.000 Someone did.

00:47:39.000 They were like, someone said, what is this supposed to be?

00:47:41.000 I don't understand.

00:47:42.000 Finally, someone responded.

00:47:44.000 And they said, it's from this video.

00:47:46.000 And they linked to a clip of Joe Biden saying, turn on a chapter pressure.

00:47:50.000 And then all the responses turned into, to make fun of a man with a stutter like that is just wrong.

00:47:54.000 And I'm like, you know what, man, there's tribalism and media manipulation right there because these people don't know.

00:48:02.000 You can see it.

00:48:03.000 If they genuinely think Biden is sharpened with it and able to do this job when the dude speaks gibberish.

00:48:10.000 And if you point it out, they think it's you speaking gibberish.

00:48:12.000 This is why I have no anticipation that these people will be shamed or woken up, literally woken up, by watching a child be harassed by police.

00:48:23.000 They're gonna pivot and pivot and pivot until they're dizzy and they literally don't know which side's up and which side's down or what's up and what.

00:48:30.000 I have no hope for these people.

00:48:32.000 I really don't.

00:48:32.000 This is idiocracy, but this is idiocracy... How do you call it?

00:48:38.000 I was gonna say exemplified.

00:48:40.000 Tenfold.

00:48:41.000 Exploded.

00:48:41.000 Exploded!

00:48:43.000 Curated!

00:48:45.000 And promoted by, of course, the algorithms that make people see this and spread this kind of larger idiocracy to the general public.

00:48:52.000 So again, this is not, I would say, a perfect reflection of reality, but this is the crazy car crash examples of reality that people stop and look at.

00:49:02.000 But at the end of the day, this is still a car crash, and to me, not a representation of a lot of people.

00:49:07.000 So there are a lot of, you know, people totally ignorant, not knowing what's going on. 0.96

00:49:10.000 They don't listen to Biden. 0.98

00:49:11.000 Well, the numbers back you up.

00:49:13.000 People are losing faith in all of these institutions, starting with the media, where faith has been low for decades.

00:49:19.000 But in all of these institutions, every single poll shows that we are losing.

00:49:23.000 And in some ways, that's scary, right?

00:49:25.000 Because we do need some kind of institutions, you know, as a small C conservative.

00:49:30.000 Like, that's when you have revolutions.

00:49:32.000 That's why when you have What we get from this?

00:49:34.000 Evidence.

00:49:34.000 of any kind of order so it's necessarily I think a kind of dangerous time but I

00:49:40.000 think it's a good thing that people are losing faith in institutions that are

00:49:43.000 aligned to them and and so I agree with you I think that there are a lot more

00:49:48.000 people who do not aren't plugged into the capital and narrative then it would

00:49:53.000 appear what what you what we get from this evidence or should say data not

00:50:00.000 It's data adding to the fact that many of these people get their news from memes.

00:50:05.000 Yeah.

00:50:06.000 Now look, certain memes can be funny, and memes can share information, and memes are a powerful thing.

00:50:10.000 But you don't only get your news from memes, but they do.

00:50:14.000 They don't actually listen to Joe Biden.

00:50:17.000 They don't listen to his speeches.

00:50:18.000 We do.

00:50:19.000 That's how we know he fell up those stairs.

00:50:22.000 That's how we know he said, Batacaf, Karen, Trinidad, Shabbat, a pressure. 0.74

00:50:25.000 It's how we know he himself proclaimed, let's go, Brandon.

00:50:29.000 Because we actually watch and listen to what's going on in politics.

00:50:32.000 Same thing is true with Donald Trump.

00:50:34.000 When Trump was president, they didn't watch him.

00:50:37.000 They only got their news from memes, and they believe it, and they voted on it, and here we are. 0.97

00:50:41.000 A country cannot run based on ignorant people voting for policies based on each other. 0.98

00:50:47.000 It's like the blind leading the blind off a cliff. 0.97

00:50:50.000 How do you solve for it?

00:50:51.000 I guess we do shows like this.

00:50:51.000 We say, hey guys, share shows like this, share these tweets, explain to people, make a meme of this, and then show the clip of Joe Biden saying, tune in on a shot of the pressure.

00:51:01.000 Those videos where, here's, it's in my head, I can see it.

00:51:06.000 It's a video of Joe Biden going, tune in on a shot of the pressure, tune in on a shot of the pressure.

00:51:10.000 Then, it shows Jeff Tiedrich's tweet and plays the theme from Curb Your Enthusiasm or whatever.

00:51:14.000 There you go, you got a meme.

00:51:15.000 Right there.

00:51:16.000 And then people will see it and be like, wow, they don't know anything about the guy they voted for.

00:51:23.000 Well, I don't think anyone did.

00:51:24.000 I think they just voted against Donald Trump.

00:51:26.000 I think the corporate media kind of brought him to the presidency while he was hiding out in his basement, wasn't even campaigning, wasn't even there shaking hands with all the individuals.

00:51:36.000 He was literally doing really crappy vlog videos from his basement.

00:51:41.000 So, truly, this shows you the power of the corporate media.

00:51:45.000 But I think a lot of people are being disenfranchised by it.

00:51:47.000 And their relationship with big tech social media, I think, is the thing that is making a lot of people blind.

00:51:53.000 But I think memes are a way of combating it.

00:51:56.000 I think memes are awesome.

00:51:57.000 I think they're great.

00:51:58.000 They're also a double-edged sword.

00:52:00.000 There's a lot of disinformation memes out there, but predominantly I think if it wasn't for memes, I think we would be dumbed down even a lot more than if it wasn't for memes.

00:52:08.000 These are good things, like making the videos that debunk this stuff.

00:52:12.000 But if you're only getting your information from a meme group... Or from Reddit, specifically, where again, everything's carefully curated and they push a vision that they want you to have.

00:52:23.000 And again, I was going to talk about the intelligence agencies and the ties to them, but I don't want to go off that rant again.

00:52:28.000 But I think it's fair to say, you know, this level of idiocracy, I think, is promoted in such a way where it looks like it's the norm.

00:52:38.000 I don't think it is.

00:52:39.000 But people believing that it is the norm makes people more ignorant, makes people copy and mimic that behavior because they want to fit into what they're seeing online as what is popular.

00:52:49.000 And that's the trick that's being played on people.

00:52:51.000 I think it's a paradox for these media outlets, though, because the stronger and more obviously they spin the narrative, the more their institutional credibility collapses.

00:53:02.000 And that is backed up by like survey after survey after survey.

00:53:05.000 So I mean, that's why shows like this probably get more viewers than most CNN shows, right?

00:53:10.000 They are going to.

00:53:12.000 The more that they spin that narrative, the fewer people are going to find them credible.

00:53:17.000 I mean, I think that's why now you're shifting so much to where social media companies are deciding what isn't permissible to post.

00:53:25.000 I think that's a reaction to the success of alternative media, because so many people are tuning out.

00:53:31.000 from a corporate media narrative.

00:53:33.000 But that in itself shows the weakness of the current system.

00:53:37.000 So you're saying we shouldn't believe CNN when they just named the CEO of Pfizer the CEO of the year?

00:53:44.000 Well, look, I gotta criticize you.

00:53:47.000 I think it's fair to say he's the CEO of the year.

00:53:49.000 I mean, look at the profits they're raking in to secure these kinds of contracts with no liability.

00:53:54.000 You are a good CEO.

00:53:56.000 Some people would say he's making a killing.

00:54:01.000 Let's be real.

00:54:04.000 Of all the CEOs, who's guaranteed the most money for their company?

00:54:08.000 It's either going to be him, Moderna, or Johnson & Johnson, right?

00:54:10.000 Absolutely.

00:54:11.000 There are more billionaires than any other industry out there.

00:54:13.000 There you go.

00:54:14.000 You might have to fact check me on this.

00:54:16.000 If I recall, the entire intake of money for the music industry in the country is $12 billion a year.

00:54:21.000 dollars a year. Okay. Pfizer for 2021 is going to rake in 32.5 billion for this year. That's

00:54:30.000 a lot of power, dude.

00:54:31.000 That's a lot.

00:54:33.000 I tell you this.

00:54:35.000 How would you guys feel, how would you feel if the government mandated people watch TimCast IRL?

00:54:41.000 We'd be loaded!

00:54:41.000 We'd be billionaires!

00:54:43.000 We got 300-some-odd million people.

00:54:45.000 How many?

00:54:45.000 250 working-age adults?

00:54:48.000 Is it 250 million?

00:54:48.000 I think so.

00:54:49.000 There should be more kids than that. 0.96

00:54:50.000 I guess not.

00:54:51.000 Okay, so all of those people forced to watch the show, getting 250 million views per night, and all the government has to do is point the long arm of the law at them and threaten imprisonment, and then we get all the free money?

00:55:04.000 Look, you'd be a great CEO to force your product on people, right?

00:55:08.000 Absolutely.

00:55:08.000 Well, that's what health insurance companies currently have under Obamacare.

00:55:12.000 Yep.

00:55:13.000 Pesky seatbelts! 0.83

00:55:15.000 Insurance companies lobbied to make us have to wear seatbelts so it lowers their costs.

00:55:19.000 It just really does.

00:55:20.000 I don't know if they have any specific examples of them actually lobbying for that, though, but that's what I was told back in Chicago.

00:55:26.000 That's what I was told, so it must be true. 0.96

00:55:28.000 Truly.

00:55:29.000 You read it in a meme.

00:55:30.000 No, I love how Donald Trump would always say something outrageous and then be like, when

00:55:34.000 people were giving him a look, well, that's what I was told.

00:55:36.000 Many people are saying.

00:55:39.000 Many people are saying.

00:55:40.000 No, when I was younger, people were talking about the clicker ticket stuff and what I

00:55:44.000 was told was that insurance companies lobbied so that when accidents, because accidents

00:55:50.000 are going to happen no matter what, insurance companies got to pay out the medical.

00:55:53.000 But if you if you lobby for seatbelt laws, it does reduce the amount of overall costs on the health care system.

00:55:58.000 New Hampshire is one of the few places in the United States where there's no mandatory seatbelt laws, and they have some of the cheapest car insurance out there in the nation.

00:56:06.000 So there's that.

00:56:08.000 But again, there's there's, of course, exceptions to the rule.

00:56:11.000 There's also some, I don't know about sort of who lobbied for what, but there are a couple sort of out there studies that I can't necessarily endorse because I just don't know enough about the subject, but I have read a couple of studies that show that mandating seatbelts have made people more reckless drivers.

00:56:28.000 People feel safer, they drive more recklessly.

00:56:31.000 So there's a feedback loop.

00:56:33.000 I cannot speak to the veracity of that.

00:56:35.000 Luke was mentioning intelligence agencies and social media.

00:56:40.000 And so we have this story that's been going around from the gray zone.

00:56:43.000 This is written by Kit Clarenberg and Max Blumenthal.

00:56:46.000 Now, you can absolutely argue these individuals have their bias.

00:56:50.000 I believe that they have a leftist bias.

00:56:52.000 But this is an interesting story.

00:56:53.000 Leaked files expose Syria PsyOps veteran AstroTurfing BreadTubeStar to counter COVID restriction critics.

00:57:02.000 That is a mouthful of a headline.

00:57:03.000 Now, I don't know if this is true.

00:57:05.000 I'm not familiar with the gray zone.

00:57:07.000 Take it all with a grain of salt.

00:57:08.000 But they write, by covertly recruiting popular YouTube influencer Abigail Thorne to counter growing opposition to UK government COVID restrictions, PsyOps pros are bringing home the tactics they honed in the Syrian dirty war. 0.79

00:57:21.000 Leaked documents have revealed a state-sponsored influence operation designed to undermine critics of the British government's coronavirus policies by astroturfing a prominent founder of the breadtube clique of anti-fascist YouTube influencers.

00:57:36.000 The project aims to conduct psychological profiling on British citizens dissenting against policies such as mandatory vaccination and lockdowns, then leverage the data to establish a YouTube channel that portrays these critics as dangerous super-spreaders of disinformation.

00:57:52.000 Interesting!

00:57:53.000 I was accused of spreading election disinformation and conspiracies because one time I retweeted somebody on Twitter and they happened to have been wrong.

00:58:03.000 I don't know about the veracity of these claims, but this is us looking through, assuming it's all true, a keyhole into what is probably very, very prominent.

00:58:12.000 Government agencies, intelligence operations, psyops, it's all real.

00:58:16.000 They're all working on this stuff.

00:58:17.000 I was just going to say that.

00:58:18.000 Psyops are real. 0.86

00:58:19.000 The CIA has knowingly infiltrated Hollywood, the corporate media, politics, of course, admittedly.

00:58:25.000 So why wouldn't you think they would not be infiltrating the online space?

00:58:29.000 Of course they're doing this.

00:58:30.000 And there's this famous journalist, Udo Ulf Kette.

00:58:34.000 He's a German journalist who literally came out and whistleblowed.

00:58:37.000 He was one of the most prominent, most important journalists in all of Germany.

00:58:41.000 And he said, the CIA came to me, they wrote articles in my name, and they told me just to hit publish, and they did many times.

00:58:47.000 So the CIA was... What was this guy's name?

00:58:48.000 Udo, U-D-O. 0.98

00:58:51.000 E-U-D-O, that's his first name.

00:58:51.000 E-U-D-O?

00:58:53.000 Ulf Kette, U-L-F-K-O-T-T-E.

00:58:59.000 came out and said, hey, I was told by intelligence agencies to regurgitate these talking points, and I did.

00:59:07.000 So if they're doing this with corporate media, you think they're not doing this with social media?

00:59:14.000 Obviously they are, because that's how they influence a lot of their policies that they want to institute.

00:59:19.000 Look, Wikipedia says he was a conspiracy theorist.

00:59:22.000 So that means everything he's ever claimed is clearly false.

00:59:22.000 Yeah.

00:59:24.000 Of course, Wikipedia is always true no matter what.

00:59:27.000 He maintained, this is according to Wikipedia, as he maintained that journalists including himself and leading newspapers published material that had been fed to them or bought by the CIA and other Western intelligence and propaganda agencies.

00:59:38.000 He was an assistant editor at the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, pronouncing that wrong, For several years until 2003, between 97 and his death, he authored a dozen books, including a number with populist themes.

00:59:51.000 Perhaps.

00:59:51.000 I'll tell you this.

00:59:52.000 I don't know this guy.

00:59:54.000 I don't need to trust this guy.

00:59:55.000 If you think intelligence agencies aren't seeding stories, you're the conspiracy theorist.

01:00:01.000 I'm sorry, you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe none of that is going on.

01:00:04.000 Russia does it. 0.86

01:00:05.000 China does it. 0.89

01:00:06.000 Even small countries do it.

01:00:08.000 Small countries that we don't think would be an issue for us.

01:00:10.000 They all engage in these kinds of psychological operations and manipulations.

01:00:14.000 And we get reports on it.

01:00:15.000 Here's the funny thing.

01:00:16.000 We get stories where it's like, the CIA said Iran is engaging in manipulation campaigns.

01:00:21.000 Yes.

01:00:22.000 Why wouldn't the CIA be doing the exact same thing?

01:00:24.000 Why wouldn't any other intelligence agency be doing the exact same thing?

01:00:27.000 In the 1970s, there was congressional hearings with members of the CIA admitting that they have agents within all the major top news organizations.

01:00:36.000 A lot of people attribute this incorrectly to Operation Mockingbird.

01:00:41.000 But that's a separate thing.

01:00:42.000 That's a separate issue.

01:00:43.000 There was congressional hearings.

01:00:45.000 You could watch the videos of CIA officials saying that they have infiltrated the top echelons of the corporate media and they are using, of course, that power of the corporate media in order to spread their stories or aka disinformation.

01:01:00.000 But that's also how, like, a bunch of agencies operate anyway, i.e.

01:01:04.000 leaks from agencies.

01:01:06.000 Not just leaks.

01:01:07.000 And to specific media outlets, the relationships between, you know, bureaucrats and agencies.

01:01:12.000 I mean, that's always a problem, particularly for Republican administrators, Republican administrations, because the bureaucracy is so overwhelmingly Democrat.

01:01:20.000 But theoretically, if somebody like Bernie Sanders, for example, were to get in, As president, you would have the same problems because the bureaucracy is sort of like a technocratic, neoliberal left.

01:01:31.000 Overwhelmingly.

01:01:32.000 But I don't think that that's unique to the CIA.

01:01:33.000 But we're not talking about leaks.

01:01:35.000 We're not talking about leaks.

01:01:35.000 We're talking about CIA agents implanted in the corporate media.

01:01:38.000 I'm saying that the stories that you read are also seeded by people in agencies, often in service of like interagency, you know, dispute, right?

01:01:48.000 What they allow out about the administration, then, you know, Helps them take down somebody in a sister organization, a sister agency that they don't like.

01:01:56.000 I mean, there's a huge problem in this incestuous relationship between media and bureaucracy.

01:02:01.000 Let me tell you how much worse it is.

01:02:03.000 You think it was bad back then that intelligence agencies could get someone from their division to work in a news organization, infiltrate?

01:02:12.000 YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok are going to make it so incredibly easy for intelligence agencies to control the narrative and control the world.

01:02:21.000 You have no idea.

01:02:23.000 I'll make it very, very simple for you.

01:02:26.000 All they need do is have access to YouTube, and they simply say, we want this channel to be on the front page.

01:02:32.000 Done.

01:02:33.000 So when you have a million channels, and you have one guy who's, I don't know, Alex Jones, talking about all of these crazy things, some of which strangely turned out to be true.

01:02:43.000 They simply say, get rid of him, and then he's gone.

01:02:46.000 And then you get other channels.

01:02:47.000 They're like, this does advance or at the very least doesn't interfere with.

01:02:51.000 If you are advancing what they want and pushing the narrative they want, all of a sudden your videos are appearing on the front page of YouTube.

01:02:58.000 You don't work for anybody.

01:02:59.000 You have no handler.

01:03:00.000 You don't know why.

01:03:01.000 See, back in the day when media organizations were few and far between relative to today.

01:03:05.000 They needed to figure out how to seed stories, so it could be leaks, it could be overt, it could be liminal, it could be super liminal, or it could be subliminal.

01:03:12.000 Nowadays, they have a million channels to choose from, and all they have to do is be like, buy ads on this channel.

01:03:19.000 This person will make a bunch of money, they'll produce more content, and then we'll tell YouTube to put them on the front page.

01:03:24.000 Absolutely.

01:03:28.000 And I would argue that's potentially happening right now.

01:03:31.000 I don't think it's limited to intelligence agencies is my point.

01:03:35.000 I think that it's an operation of how to do business.

01:03:40.000 Zuckerberg!

01:03:41.000 I mean, that's the problem, right?

01:03:43.000 That's why we've moved so far in terms of there's a ton of pressure and these companies

01:03:48.000 have a uniculture, right?

01:03:50.000 A monoculture for the most part.

01:03:52.000 They agree on who the bad guys and the good guys are within the companies and between

01:03:56.000 the companies and what you end up having is a type of sort of cultural collusion that

01:04:00.000 doesn't even need to be like sort of communicated.

01:04:03.000 I think it was a bat signal. 0.96

01:04:04.000 need to be told, most of these companies don't even need to be told by some like shadowy

01:04:09.000 official in an administration what to do.

01:04:12.000 They know who the good guys and bad guys are.

01:04:15.000 They know which side of the narrative they're on and they can implement that without having

01:04:19.000 to be told.

01:04:20.000 I mean I think, I know we've moved on a little bit from the vaccine mandates, but I think

01:04:22.000 that's what the federal mandate was.

01:04:26.000 I think it was a bat signal, it's probably going to get struck down, but it was a bat 0.99

01:04:29.000 signal to corporate America and most of that enforcement has already happened.

01:04:34.000 Right?

01:04:35.000 So, like, it is a way of getting completely around the actual democratic process of passing laws and enforcing them.

01:04:42.000 This is why social media censorship is such a big deal, because it's very obvious what they've been doing over the past decade, with the banning and removal of certain commentators.

01:04:51.000 And, you know, I guess I got to be a little optimistic on Rumble and their growth, but I'm still worried that's a short-term solution.

01:04:59.000 The idea of getting rid of debates, concepts, and thinking is absolutely absurd.

01:05:05.000 To say that this line of thinking or this line of questioning is not allowed is godlike authority that is obviously going to be abused, whether it's in the hands of Susan Wojcicki or the CIA, it doesn't matter.

01:05:16.000 That's way too much power with infrastructure and information highways that were funded by tax dollars with also intelligence agencies connections.

01:05:25.000 When you look at a lot of the startups A lot of these organizations, these big tech organizations, they had connections to intelligence agencies.

01:05:32.000 I don't think that was coincidental.

01:05:34.000 I think a lot of these intelligence agencies saw this coming and that's why they embedded within them.

01:05:39.000 They're working hand in hand with them.

01:05:40.000 And I think they're using this to promote this, as you mentioned Tim, in many covert ways where we don't even realize that they're doing it.

01:05:48.000 And it might not even be that as obvious as it used to be where they had an agent within CBS News, they don't have to do that anymore.

01:05:55.000 They just have to control the algorithm, which I think they have a lot of sway in.

01:05:59.000 At the very least, you can take a look at how YouTube operates, and we often have some of our segments, it's very obvious, some just are shadowbanned, some aren't.

01:06:08.000 We, uh, for a while, they had all these channels in an isolation bubble where they stopped recommending them to any outside channel.

01:06:16.000 So it's like if you were all, it was a clever way to destroy anti-establishment opinions.

01:06:21.000 If you were in this group of people, they segmented you away from all the mainstream YouTube content.

01:06:26.000 So you are no longer recommended.

01:06:28.000 But if you were already subscribed to these channels, you'd be recommended only those channels.

01:06:32.000 Then over time, they shrink out those channels, shut some down, give them strikes, and then they're gone.

01:06:39.000 And then it pushes to the mainstream narrative.

01:06:41.000 Now you go on, look, this is all you gotta do to understand this.

01:06:44.000 Get a brand new computer or open a private tab and go to youtube.com and look at what they promote to people.

01:06:48.000 Now, to be honest, it's family-friendly stuff.

01:06:51.000 They're trying to make an entertainment channel.

01:06:53.000 I get it.

01:06:54.000 But you will see leftist political commentary.

01:06:56.000 You will see Jimmy Kimmel making political commentary about Trump or whatever, even though Trump's not the president.

01:07:02.000 But you're not going to get the inverse.

01:07:04.000 CNN, CBS, all of these news outlets will be put on the front page.

01:07:07.000 And then what do they do?

01:07:08.000 Well, people were disliking them.

01:07:10.000 And it was strange.

01:07:11.000 How is this on the front page if nobody likes it?

01:07:13.000 So then what did YouTube do?

01:07:15.000 They got rid of the dislike button.

01:07:17.000 That's how you do it.

01:07:18.000 That's how you control the narrative.

01:07:19.000 Yeah.

01:07:20.000 Also, go on the trending page.

01:07:21.000 That also tells you a lot of what ideas and videos are being promoted to you compared to,

01:07:26.000 of course, the actual videos that are getting the views.

01:07:29.000 They don't show you that anymore.

01:07:30.000 They used to.

01:07:31.000 That's how they got everyone hooked in.

01:07:32.000 Look at the front page of Reddit.

01:07:33.000 Also another huge change that was happening very subtly, not overtly, but I think slowly 0.99

01:07:41.000 and surely, it just became an absolute crap show.

01:07:44.000 And they did it by slowly boiling the water on Reddit and making it more and more progressive, making it more and more just absolutely insane as time went on.

01:07:52.000 Just like with eBay and the color yellow, which Tim explains a lot, where people didn't like the color yellow, but they slowly changed it.

01:08:00.000 No, they didn't like white.

01:08:01.000 The website was yellow.

01:08:02.000 They changed it overnight to white and everyone complained like, oh, it hurts.

01:08:05.000 I don't want to see it.

01:08:06.000 So they changed it back.

01:08:07.000 And then every day they slowly made it white until a year later it was white.

01:08:10.000 Nobody cared.

01:08:11.000 And I think that's also happening with our kind of consciousness and the information that we're getting from a lot of these big tech platforms that are only getting crazier and crazier and crazier by the day.

01:08:21.000 And I think that's exemplified with people getting crazy and also us dealing with a mental health crisis that we never, ever had before when it came through the onset of social media.

01:08:30.000 Yeah, the great Jordan Peterson broke that down in an interview at some point in time where he was just like, if I shove you, you're going to fight back.

01:08:36.000 But what I have to do is just kind of take an inch towards you and then another inch, another inch.

01:08:42.000 And then before you know it, I've pushed you wherever I've wanted you to go to begin with, without having to take the measure of shoving you.

01:08:48.000 I think the most important thing when you're thinking about, you know, how tech companies and how social media manipulate what's seen and what isn't is that we need to build new networks from scratch and whatever reliance anyone has on any of these networks, it's any of these companies, you have to operate on the assumption that eventually you'll get banned.

01:09:11.000 And you have to build in advance, and think about it in advance, and build these networks anew.

01:09:15.000 And look, there are major consequences to having a red and blue everything, right?

01:09:20.000 Ideally, we would not have a red and blue coffee shop, a red and blue server provider, red and blue internet, right?

01:09:29.000 But I don't see any alternative because there isn't going to be and the line is moving extremely fast in terms of like initially of course some of the most disturbing things that I saw are when it jumps away from social media and into real life because some people just with some legitimacy say like okay well you don't have a right to a Twitter account you don't have a right to a YouTube account That's true, but when every network bans you, every company bans you, there's a certain inability to get your message out.

01:09:57.000 But even moving beyond that, they have jumped it into IRL, where you can't get a bank account.

01:10:03.000 Maybe you can't use private transit like Uber and Lyft.

01:10:08.000 problem and actually I mean this I get a lot of flack for making this comparison but not on the substance of it but on the like shape of the problem it starts to look very much like what the 1964 Civil Rights Act was put in place to solve right because the problem wasn't that one restaurant was not serving black Americans the problem is that every restaurant in an entire geographic area and every hotel and every service was not willing to serve a class of customer Because they had a predetermined cultural agreement that wasn't quote-unquote traditional antitrust, right?

01:10:43.000 Because they're not talking to each other saying, we're freezing people out.

01:10:46.000 There was a cultural, a modern culture, a cultural agreement not to serve certain customers.

01:10:52.000 The shape of what's happening now I think is quite similar.

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:57.000 Let's jump over to the physical manifestation.

01:10:59.000 We have this story from americanexperiment.org.

01:11:02.000 I'm not familiar with this organization, but they do have a graph showing the change in population among states.

01:11:08.000 And it's a little hard to read because everything's kind of small, but you can see here,

01:11:11.000 California at the bottom, losing 367,299 people, New York 352,185, followed by Illinois at 122,460,

01:11:21.000 and then Massachusetts at 46, and so on and so forth.

01:11:24.000 You can then see the states that gained the most population.

01:11:27.000 Florida, 220,890.

01:11:28.000 Texas, 170,000.

01:11:30.000 The interesting thing is, the people fleeing New York and California are actually spreading out among many of these states.

01:11:38.000 Now, I don't think there's a one-to-one ratio for the most part.

01:11:41.000 It could be that some people are just leaving the country outright.

01:11:44.000 But it's very obvious, isn't it?

01:11:46.000 Florida has one of the biggest cities in the country, Miami.

01:11:48.000 But they're seeing population growth.

01:11:51.000 So it's not a city-size issue.

01:11:52.000 Texas.

01:11:53.000 Well, it's one of the biggest states in the Union.

01:11:55.000 And they got some of the biggest cities.

01:11:57.000 They're seeing population growth.

01:11:58.000 So it's not that people are fleeing big cities or blue cities.

01:12:02.000 It's that people are fleeing totalitarian states for freedom.

01:12:06.000 This is a manifestation of everything we're seeing going on.

01:12:09.000 People are voting with their feet.

01:12:11.000 They're saying, I'm mad as hell, I can't take it anymore.

01:12:13.000 And they're moving.

01:12:15.000 It's a tough move, to be completely honest.

01:12:16.000 Especially, you know, you've got a family, you've got to find a new job.

01:12:20.000 But I'll tell ya, what worries me about all this, maybe worry isn't the right word, maybe, maybe I should say, what I noticed, is that we are now seeing that ideological polarization become geographical polarization.

01:12:32.000 People are going to say no to Newsom and to, what, how do you say your name, Hochul?

01:12:36.000 Hochul?

01:12:38.000 I'm a new New York resident.

01:12:40.000 I haven't even bothered to learn how to pronounce our governor's name.

01:12:46.000 People are going to flee this stuff.

01:12:48.000 And I'm worried about what happens next when you then have a city that is 99% Democrat and another city that is 99% Republican, and they're just going to be like, y'all aren't welcome here, right? 1.00

01:13:00.000 You're going to have that social contract you were mentioning just a moment ago, where one group says, we don't serve that other group of people, but now it's at the state level.

01:13:06.000 But it's even happening between blue states.

01:13:08.000 Like you were saying earlier, like Union City, New Jersey can't go into the city like they've been doing their whole lives.

01:13:14.000 Because New York City is essentially saying, you're not welcome here.

01:13:16.000 And your five-year-old's not welcome here, unless you do what we say.

01:13:19.000 And you soon might not be able to travel to those particular states, as interstate travel could be vax-mandated soon, which is absolutely crazy.

01:13:27.000 Oh yeah, they've been talking about putting up state borders.

01:13:29.000 I mean, this sort of happened last year when police had checkpoints between Connecticut and New York because they were worried about New Yorkers fleeing into Connecticut.

01:13:38.000 But I think we actually might see it happen.

01:13:40.000 I mean, Europe, to a certain degree, has had some border checkpoints, but that's because they're like, we're countries, not states.

01:13:46.000 The US hasn't had that.

01:13:47.000 Which amendment is it that allows freedom of movement?

01:13:49.000 Is it the 14th?

01:13:51.000 You can freely move between states?

01:13:53.000 The right to travel is pulled, I think it's under the 14th amendment.

01:13:56.000 But yeah, it's, I think the essence of it is one of the liberties, right?

01:14:00.000 That states cannot I wouldn't want to be in a state like, I don't know, California or Illinois.

01:14:05.000 It's a court-invented doctrine, the right to travel.

01:14:07.000 But the thing with California, it's not necessarily just the totalitarianism, although that does play a role in the thing I'm about to mention.

01:14:13.000 It's just not being able to afford to live.

01:14:15.000 You literally just can't afford to live in California right now.

01:14:18.000 In California, it's, I think, a much longer trend than in some of these other places.

01:14:22.000 In California, there's a vicious cycle where the middle class is being pushed out. 1.00

01:14:26.000 It's impossible to live in California increasingly as a middle class family. 0.99

01:14:31.000 As a combination of economic benefits and detriments, California is becoming extremely polarized

01:14:39.000 between very wealthy people who can afford the costs and then a dependent class of poor people

01:14:44.000 who are dependent on the state and the programs.

01:14:46.000 That's a much longer term trend in California, although I'm sure it's accelerated now.

01:14:51.000 But I'm not sure how much, like for example, it's not population normed.

01:14:56.000 So it's hard to say.

01:14:57.000 Like, California's just a much bigger state, so a smaller percentage of people, you know, could result in a very big bar graph.

01:15:04.000 But my impression is that California has faced this problem for quite a few number of years, even before COVID, and it particularized on the middle class, which Makes the political situation worse because the middle class is the Republican base in California.

01:15:20.000 So like the politics are becoming more unidirectional extreme as the middle class is getting pushed out. 0.75

01:15:24.000 And it's probably why their borders are wide open as well so they could fill in the void. 0.70

01:15:28.000 California actually discussed a huge tax.

01:15:31.000 This is like 10 or 15 years ago.

01:15:33.000 They discussed what should be wildly unconstitutional, but they discussed essentially a seizure of half of your assets when you exit the state to try to keep people from leaving.

01:15:41.000 Well, it was like up to 10 years after you leave, they could tax you.

01:15:44.000 It was like, good luck sending your tax agents to my state.

01:15:48.000 It's important though, Florida has 21 million people and California has 39 million.

01:15:52.000 So California, if you were to normalize, you know, for population, California is losing a lot of people relative to what Florida is gaining.

01:16:01.000 You can also take a look at some of these other states that are smaller, like Mississippi or Maryland.

01:16:05.000 When Maryland loses 19,871 people, Maryland doesn't have that many people relative to California.

01:16:11.000 So you gotta understand population density as well.

01:16:13.000 People are fleeing these blue lockdown states for, non-lockdown states, for the most part.

01:16:18.000 Not completely, but for the most part.

01:16:21.000 So, DC is very small in comparison even to all the states, so I would guess that if you normed this by population, you would see DC be on par if not beating out New York and California for fleeing, especially since the barrier to leaving in DC is so much lower because you can just move across the state line and still keep your job, keep your commute, keep your everything.

01:16:42.000 DC has 692,000 people.

01:16:44.000 So, yeah.

01:16:46.000 I'm not gonna plot a calculator and do the normalization, but you know, you get the point.

01:16:49.000 I was trying to see where New Hampshire was on the list.

01:16:51.000 It's in the middle.

01:16:52.000 But it has a very small population.

01:16:52.000 New Hampshire's gained.

01:16:55.000 But it's gained, I think, around 13,000 people.

01:16:57.000 That's pretty significant.

01:16:58.000 Look, I lived in New York, and I told people I was getting out because I saw how bad things were getting politically.

01:17:04.000 Look where they are now.

01:17:05.000 And then I moved to Jersey, and then it was still bad with the bombings and the police killings.

01:17:09.000 Moved to South Jersey, and then the riots happened, they crossed the bridge, and I said, I'm going to Millinor.

01:17:13.000 I moved out of New York City as well.

01:17:15.000 I couldn't handle it.

01:17:16.000 I was like, this is absolutely crazy to be living in there.

01:17:19.000 I don't know how you moved to there!

01:17:21.000 Well, I moved from D.C., so... There you go.

01:17:23.000 Alright, so it's an improvement.

01:17:24.000 It's an improvement.

01:17:25.000 From a swamp to a rat-infested sewer... Yeah, I mean, I'm a city person.

01:17:29.000 I love New York City, despite some of the crazy politics.

01:17:33.000 I've never lived, really, in a place where I agreed with the majority of my neighbors.

01:17:38.000 But I think in terms of this moving and the decisions that people are making about, you know, geographically becoming more stratified, I think the real key would be using, like what you guys are doing, right?

01:17:52.000 Using that move to build something new, to build those networks, because a lot of these forces are national, right?

01:17:59.000 If everybody moves to West Virginia, even if they don't bring their liberal politics with them, even if it's only conservatives, for example, or people who oppose lockdowns or whatever it is, moving to West Virginia, a lot of these forces are national.

01:18:09.000 West Virginia is just 20 years behind in terms of being, you know, sort of shaped, to your point about, Your point about shades of moving from yellow to white as a background color?

01:18:19.000 You know, if these moves are not— But progressives are losing.

01:18:23.000 I think that they still control—when you still have corporate media control, you have control of your bureaucracy, national bureaucracy.

01:18:32.000 You have control of most of the culturally producing institutions, not the least of which are the academy and the K-12 schools.

01:18:39.000 So for example, even in red states, public schools and the district officials are at least a standard deviation or two to the left of the population.

01:18:48.000 These things move entire states, even red states, left over time.

01:18:52.000 This is why the left is so freaked out about the rights assault on critical race theory.

01:18:55.000 Because progressives don't have children, they have yours.

01:18:58.000 I don't remember who told us that, but it's a good point. 0.99

01:19:01.000 Conservatives have way more kids than liberals, and liberals are more likely to abort their children, meaning if you just went by family, you would have substantially more conservatives in 20 years, and the states would be turning red.

01:19:12.000 However, the left, probably understanding this, has sought to indoctrinate the children of more conservative-leaning people.

01:19:19.000 With conservatives now figuring out what's going on with critical race theory, this completely threatens everything about the left.

01:19:25.000 They don't have kids.

01:19:27.000 And I'm not making that stat up.

01:19:29.000 I've done a bunch of stories on this.

01:19:31.000 Back in 2000, there were several studies.

01:19:33.000 One found that, a couple of them found, conservatives had more kids than liberals.

01:19:38.000 Conservatives were having 2.05 replacement levels, and liberals were having like 1.5, meaning they weren't.

01:19:44.000 What do we get today?

01:19:45.000 Pew research showing that Generation Z is a teeny bit more conservative for the first time in a hundred years.

01:19:51.000 A generation is a teeny bit more conservative because it's always been shifting more progressive.

01:19:56.000 It's not because kids are, you know, getting woke or are getting red-pilled or getting woke or whatever.

01:20:02.000 It's because there's more conservative families who had more conservative kids.

01:20:07.000 But if the leftists get their way with critical race praxis in schools, then the kids of conservatives will become leftist and they will continue to expand their ideology.

01:20:15.000 I wonder if that shift has to do with the fact that an increasing percentage of conservatives are not sending their kids into public school.

01:20:23.000 But I mean, I have to lay this one at the feet of the right.

01:20:27.000 I said I'm a conservative, so on my own sort of tribe or whatever.

01:20:32.000 This is the natural result.

01:20:34.000 I mean, William F. Buckley wrote God, Man, and Yale 70 years ago, and exactly none of the Republican Party's political capital has ever been advanced to do a damn thing about education.

01:20:45.000 And this is the result of decades of saying, oh, ha ha, you know, the blue-haired, woke kids, when they graduate and impact with the real world, they'll figure out how to make a dollar and they'll realize all this crazy stuff that they're doing on campus.

01:20:57.000 is just wacky. Well of course all those kids now work in HR departments in Nike and they work in

01:21:04.000 you know agencies in the federal government and they work in you know whatever all the

01:21:09.000 other institutions media Hollywood right. 0.99

01:21:12.000 This is an idiotic concept that you can turn over the entire education system to one side of the culture war and focus on whether the taxes are lower or higher. 0.99

01:21:21.000 Like that's not good. 0.98

01:21:22.000 I'm in favor of low taxes, but that's not going to matter if your entire generation, we have now a generation and a half of kids who have learned Even way before critical race theory, the previous iteration of 1619, even the standard textbooks when I was in high school in the mid-2000s, those textbooks are already skewed left.

01:21:41.000 This is not a new problem.

01:21:42.000 And I frankly blame the right for it even more than I blame the left.

01:21:46.000 We have ignored this problem.

01:21:48.000 We've put absolutely zero political capital into solving it, and we're now reaping the consequences of that.

01:21:54.000 But even when there is an effort to create a school, like a charter school, let's say, that is going to, you know, not allow that kind of stuff, they ultimately do get infiltrated by the woke teachers who do bring on their woke stuff.

01:22:05.000 Like, I remember talking to a handful of teachers at a charter school in San Diego.

01:22:09.000 The charter school was thriving.

01:22:10.000 It was doing great.

01:22:11.000 And it was only a matter of time before the teachers came in and they started teaching things that weren't in the curriculum.

01:22:16.000 Teachers were called on it then the teachers started to unionize and then it became a disaster the grades dropped

01:22:21.000 and now the schools Become kind of a gang zone

01:22:23.000 Look, okay. So charter schools or public schools first of all, but this is happening even in private schools because

01:22:29.000 again, you can't allow 90% of kids to go through what is essentially a political

01:22:34.000 indoctrination and Imagine that that the rest of society is going to stay

01:22:39.000 neutral on that So what's happening is because we allowed this problem to percolate for decades and now I mean look I'm really glad that this is now on the Republican agenda in a serious way largely thanks to pissed off parents who for the first time when they had Zoom school actually listened to what's being taught

01:22:59.000 In their kids social studies classes, right?

01:23:02.000 I cannot describe to you how many parents I've met who are like, I had no idea it was this bad until I actually listened to what was being taught.

01:23:14.000 So in that sense, I think there's a silver lining.

01:23:16.000 If there's a silver lining of the school closures that have caused so much devastation, it's that so many parents have gotten a front seat to how bad the indoctrination actually is.

01:23:24.000 In a way that it's really hard to convince parents.

01:23:27.000 You know, if they read, like, a news story or they see a video, they say, oh, like, that happens in that town, but that's not happening in my town.

01:23:33.000 Yes, it is.

01:23:34.000 Even in the red states, even in deep red counties, it is happening.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, in West Virginia, the school boards were infiltrated by leftists.

01:23:42.000 I'm not saying this to be cute or to be hyperbolic.

01:23:45.000 Actual Marxists who actually talk about Marx and support Marxist views.

01:23:50.000 And these West Virginian parents are like, but we live in West Virginia!

01:23:53.000 It's like, well, look, at a certain point, I think older millennials, mostly boomers and silent generation, they just thought they won.

01:24:01.000 They were like, we did it!

01:24:02.000 We won!

01:24:02.000 America's done!

01:24:03.000 And then they left.

01:24:04.000 And then leftists were like, okay, let's go run for school board. 0.51

01:24:08.000 Let's go run for city council.

01:24:09.000 Let's start passing these things because they're all asleep and not paying attention.

01:24:12.000 That is exactly what happened after the Reagan revolution, right?

01:24:16.000 The Reagan revolution Essentially, people said, okay, we have won a bunch of political victories.

01:24:24.000 But they focused on the political victories.

01:24:25.000 They forgot about the culture.

01:24:27.000 And what actually happened is all of those 60s and 70s radicals went and became professors in the universities.

01:24:32.000 They went and became teachers in K-12.

01:24:34.000 To your point about charter schools and the sort of influx, it's that There's the same bunch of consultants.

01:24:39.000 There's the same bunch of teacher training, certified teacher trainings, the certification itself.

01:24:45.000 The schools of education are the most left-wing parts of left-wing universities, right?

01:24:51.000 There are national, this is kind of my point, there are national institutions involved here and every one of those national institutions is co-opted.

01:24:59.000 They're all infiltrated.

01:25:00.000 They're all, you know, bought into this ideology.

01:25:03.000 So if anything, moving to a red state, if you're not actively building alternative institutions to compete, that's not helpful.

01:25:12.000 And you can build those institutions even in a blue state.

01:25:15.000 So I'm not saying, like, I think it's fine that people are moving things.

01:25:18.000 For a lot of people, it's a great decision.

01:25:20.000 It's the right decision.

01:25:21.000 But I think if you're not, if you're sort of moving and becoming complacent and saying, oh, I live in a red state now, I don't have to worry about these crazy You know indoctrinators or whatever you are wrong.

01:25:30.000 You're talking about the importance of building culture too though.

01:25:32.000 Can you build culture in those places?

01:25:34.000 I was specific in my words for a reason.

01:25:37.000 I think culture is essentially the product of that, right?

01:25:40.000 All of those institutions and those networks, you always have individualists, you always have people who disagree, right?

01:25:46.000 I went through public school my whole life.

01:25:49.000 But I just think that to imagine that the education system has no impact on the political environment when those kids grow up and go get jobs and vote and participate in society is ludicrous.

01:26:02.000 Of course, It matters.

01:26:03.000 That's why the left cares so much about it.

01:26:05.000 Well, this is what we're trying to do in West Virginia.

01:26:07.000 You know, if you look at the little chart here, West Virginia isn't one of these states that has seen the most growth, and I think that is perfect.

01:26:15.000 Look, I like Florida, and I like Texas.

01:26:17.000 It's too dense.

01:26:17.000 We went to Texas.

01:26:19.000 I've lived in Florida before.

01:26:20.000 It's also too dense.

01:26:21.000 I've looked at property in both.

01:26:22.000 It's ridiculously expensive, and you get very little land.

01:26:24.000 West Virginia, in my opinion, has the freedom.

01:26:27.000 Not as perfect.

01:26:27.000 I think Florida and New Hampshire do a bit better in that regard.

01:26:30.000 But it's got a lower population density, an excellent opportunity to build culture, create an economic space, bring more life to this particular area, and these values of the people who are here, Second Amendment, constitutional carry, freedom, liberty, individualism, responsibility, all that stuff, I'm for it.

01:26:46.000 So we'll build culture around that, and that will create an economic center, maybe not the biggest in the world, maybe not the biggest ever, but big enough that will help people with these positions, with these policy positions, grow and succeed and have families.

01:26:58.000 to the you also have to harness the actual so it's not I'm in total agreement with everything that you said but you can't completely forget public policy in fact West Virginia after you know this state was one of the last holdouts in terms of school choice private school choice in the country because there's a very powerful like the they're not really unions but The teachers unions here functionally have enormous power and were able to block those bills year after year after year in the Republican legislature even, right?

01:27:30.000 Even after the changeover when all the Democrats essentially became Republicans here.

01:27:35.000 But now, You have an education savings account program here.

01:27:38.000 You have the largest education savings account program in the country in a state where just a year and a half ago you couldn't pass a tiny school choice program for kids with special needs because the dynamics have changed so overwhelmingly in these debates.

01:27:53.000 I think that that's a really positive sign.

01:27:55.000 So it's individual building networks, building new institutions.

01:27:59.000 But it's also not forgetting that public policy is an important tool, and we shouldn't cut ourselves off from availing ourselves of that tool.

01:28:07.000 Personally, I'm a Florida man at heart.

01:28:09.000 I think there's a big fight that's going to happen in that purple state where there's a lot that kind of weighs for the future of this country.

01:28:16.000 But also, I think another big victory that we should kind of talk about is more people homeschooling than ever.

01:28:23.000 Homeschooling networks also becoming more prominent.

01:28:25.000 People coming together and saying, hey, these institutions have failed us.

01:28:28.000 We could teach our kids on our own.

01:28:31.000 And sharing resources, sharing professionals in the field, and then being able to sit at home and actually Raise their children as they want without any state indoctrination because essentially if you look at education centers I mean one they're outdated they were created by the Rockefeller system that was trying to create literally factory workers it's nonsensical and a lot of the stuff that they teach them it's not only just brainwashing but a lot of it is also impractical they could be learning real life skills in the real world if people take

01:29:05.000 Time to homeschool their children And I think that's one of the best things you could do in this life by by helping raise the future of this country So formally legally there's always a separation on the usually on the request of homeschoolers between education savings account programs and And homeschooling because they don't want any a lot of people just don't want any money coming in from the government But you can build something very similar and it allows a lot more people to build something of that way So for example in Florida where they do have an ESA program that's pretty well established you have families building what they're calling micro schools where you just have a

01:29:40.000 10 families who pool their money from this education savings account program that sends a portion of the state funds that they would have spent in the public school to the family directly.

01:29:50.000 And you see parents actually, you know, doing something really amazing.

01:29:54.000 They're finding other people who are sort of like-minded about what education they want to give their kid.

01:29:59.000 And they're pooling that money and essentially creating a small school.

01:30:04.000 And that's really what modern homeschooling oftentimes looks like.

01:30:07.000 It's co-ops.

01:30:08.000 I think a lot of people have an idea of homeschooling that essentially hasn't been true since the 90s, right?

01:30:13.000 It's very collaborative.

01:30:14.000 It's very social.

01:30:15.000 People say, oh, I want my kid to be socialized.

01:30:18.000 Modern homeschooling has a lot of co-ops.

01:30:20.000 It has a lot of groups and activities where kids from different homeschooling families get together.

01:30:26.000 So in terms of practical as opposed to legal, there's a very sharp legal distinction.

01:30:31.000 But practically, I think that ESA has opened up something that looks a lot more like modern homeschooling for a ton more families.

01:30:38.000 And there's been a lot of attacks against homeschooling and this larger idea that it's insular, that you're going to be home, they're not going to be socializing. 1.00

01:30:45.000 That idea is absolutely lost and absolutely stupid. 0.97

01:30:48.000 New Hampshire has a huge network of homeschoolers, and New Hampshire, I believe, has one of the highest IQs per state per capita than almost anywhere else in the United States. 1.00

01:30:58.000 So I think that speaks true to the effect that people are having when they're coming together in areas like New Hampshire, like in Florida, and they're saying, hey, when it comes to raising a child, this is something that's important, that we can't just leave up to random strangers.

01:31:13.000 When you do that, Bad things happen and I think this is why we have such a big problem in this country because too many people relied on these institutions that are corrupted.

01:31:21.000 Well even if you rely on somebody else to teach your child the responsibility is always with the parents and we've seen we saw that play out in the Virginia election right where McCullough is literally was straight up saying parents have no right to Decide on what their children learn in public schools, which is ludicrous, right?

01:31:39.000 But that's that is the ludicrous position that you end up with over time When that cultural memory of parents being the primary educators of their children Even if they then hire someone to do the job for them that primary responsibility still lies with the parents And I'm really I'm hopeful on this.

01:31:57.000 I think I think that parents are recovering that power of sitting in the driver's seat of their

01:32:02.000 children's education and not thinking that because there's a bunch of experts bleeding that you

01:32:08.000 need a PhD in child development in order to teach your kid math.

01:32:12.000 I think parents are really waking up to the fact that those institutions have seized a

01:32:16.000 lot of power from parents and that they're determined to get it back. 0.58

01:32:22.000 Let's go to Super Chats.

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01:32:37.000 Let's read some of these Super Chats. 1.00

01:32:39.000 We got Kyle James, he says, Getting fired over Vax with a doctor's note.

01:32:44.000 Listen to After the Bomb by Kyle James on all platforms.

01:32:47.000 I want my own career. Love you guys. Hold the line.

01:32:50.000 Right on. Sorry to hear about you losing your job, man, but a lot of people are bailing from 1.00

01:32:56.000 these states, so I hope you guys are doing well.

01:32:59.000 Hope you guys figure it out.

01:33:01.000 The Bob says, anime and gaming conventions are starting up.

01:33:04.000 Is the pop culture team going to attend?

01:33:06.000 Requesting shout out for funding my custody fight.

01:33:09.000 Winning the case just cost time and money.

01:33:11.000 Go fund me.

01:33:12.000 Help fight for custody of my son, Robert.

01:33:13.000 Well, good luck with your custody hearing my friend.

01:33:15.000 I don't know exactly what we're going to do with the pop culture team because the show

01:33:18.000 is new, but if you haven't already, you can subscribe to pop culture crisis.

01:33:21.000 The easiest way to find it, you can actually go to TimCast.com and there's a tab for it.

01:33:25.000 And this is where the crew talks about movies, new shows, video games, stuff like that.

01:33:29.000 Definitely check it out.

01:33:31.000 Robbie Hammer says, met a fellow TimCast daily listener at the gym today.

01:33:36.000 Had a nice chat and he told me that your show changed his political philosophy.

01:33:39.000 Used to be a leftist.

01:33:41.000 Keep unplugging peeps from the Matrix.

01:33:43.000 Cool.

01:33:44.000 Right on, man.

01:33:44.000 Cool.

01:33:45.000 I'm glad to hear it.

01:33:46.000 Well, the best thing you guys can do is if you like the show, to share it and tell your friends about it.

01:33:50.000 That's how podcasts grow, is that people play it in front of other people or tell people to listen to it.

01:33:56.000 Friends will come over and they'll be like, you know, they'll be chilling with the show in the background or something like that or in the car.

01:34:01.000 I don't know, man.

01:34:02.000 I also think it can be kind of like corny, like, guys, listen to this political show.

01:34:05.000 You're going to love it.

01:34:06.000 Or maybe it's what you got to do.

01:34:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:34:08.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:34:10.000 Nova says, Rakeda Law said he would be happy to come back.

01:34:13.000 Jack also messaged him, basically threatening his ability to appear on your show.

01:34:17.000 Bad luck for Timcast.

01:34:18.000 Guests thinking they can ban other guests.

01:34:22.000 I have no idea what that's all about.

01:34:23.000 Rakeda is always welcome to come back on the show.

01:34:25.000 We're big fans, and he does an excellent show, and whatever beef there is between other people, nothing to do with us.

01:34:32.000 But by all means, not cool if that's the case.

01:34:35.000 I haven't seen it, but if I see it, then I will absolutely expand upon it.

01:34:39.000 AmateurAnth says, SimCast IRL, we need to fight for our rights to party and our right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which the government has taken away since women have had the right to vote.

01:34:52.000 Repeal the 19th. 0.57

01:34:54.000 Ladies? 1.00

01:34:55.000 I have nothing to add.

01:34:58.000 Men voted in the 19th.

01:35:00.000 Right?

01:35:00.000 Yep.

01:35:01.000 So, again, it's all men's fault. 0.99

01:35:03.000 Great observation.

01:35:04.000 And women are more likely to be pro-life than men.

01:35:09.000 That is correct.

01:35:09.000 But the left often makes it seem, oh, it's these men who are regulating women's bodies.

01:35:14.000 That's actually the woman vote. 1.00

01:35:17.000 I think one of the, to move away from the extreme case, but like, I do think that there are some political differences between men and women, not just the obvious.

01:35:26.000 There are more male Republicans, there are more female Democrats.

01:35:29.000 But I think women often are sort of the gatekeepers of whatever the sort of institutional culture or the small C conservative sort of cultural memory of a place. 0.99

01:35:41.000 And so if the institutions go one direction, I think women kind of preserve that, 1.00

01:35:49.000 whereas men tend to be more willing to buck an institution or like for example, social arrangement than women.

01:35:55.000 Obviously these are generalizations and there's plenty of women who buck those arrangements 1.00

01:36:00.000 and men who don't, but I think that that's part of the reason we're seeing women vote so much more Democrat. 1.00

01:36:07.000 I think it's like alignment of sort of the the regime and I mean that in the like Aristotelian sense not like in the Putin's regime kind of way, but I think women tend to align more with the regime of a place so I More agreeable.

01:36:23.000 All right, the Sinister Sibling says, things are getting worse here in Australia.

01:36:27.000 They refusing food and produce from unjabbed farms, enhancing a food shortage.

01:36:32.000 There are now attempts by our state governments to ban the non-compliant from being able to vote. 0.81

01:36:38.000 Isn't voting compulsory in Australia?

01:36:40.000 So there's gonna be a lot of people being like, okay, good, I guess.

01:36:43.000 I don't wanna vote in the first place, they make me do it.

01:36:45.000 But imagine what it's gonna be like when you allow one class of people to vote, another class not to.

01:36:49.000 That'd be fun.

01:36:49.000 Yeah.

01:36:50.000 I'm looking forward to seeing that.

01:36:51.000 There's nothing slippery about that slope.

01:36:52.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.

01:36:54.000 But is this not too dissimilar to service guarantees citizenship?

01:36:57.000 Sounds like it.

01:36:58.000 The state says provide service to the state, in this case, get your vaccine and then you can vote and everyone else can't?

01:37:05.000 So but the smaller version of this happened in New York City during the city elections.

01:37:10.000 And yes, apparently, they cannot under federal law prevent, for example, somebody from voting because they're not wearing a mask.

01:37:16.000 So there were some attempts and some like, just disagreement or but yeah, so that we have, fortunately, we have some legal institutions in place in the United States that will prevent that from happening, at least for some time.

01:37:27.000 All right.

01:37:28.000 Der0694 says, heard about Kroger's mandate on S2 Underground's Christmas update.

01:37:34.000 Today I got my food at local store across the highway and will continue for now.

01:37:39.000 Good on you!

01:37:40.000 We had Mark Lobliner on the show, and he has the Outright Bars, which is like a whole food protein bar, and they're delicious.

01:37:47.000 Seriously, he got us a whole bunch.

01:37:48.000 They're so delicious.

01:37:48.000 We ordered some.

01:37:50.000 And he wrote a letter to Kroger.

01:37:52.000 It was Kroger, right?

01:37:53.000 And they also own, I think, Ralph's.

01:37:55.000 Saying, we're not gonna do business with you because of your vaccine policies, taking away benefits for employees, and it cost him, what he said, seven figures.

01:38:03.000 He was willing to forego millions of dollars to his business to do what was right.

01:38:07.000 That is exactly what we've been talking about, saying you gotta stand up.

01:38:11.000 And I'm not telling people to, you know, sacrifice that much money from their business.

01:38:15.000 And I'm even saying, I understand a lot of people might have difficulties, but that is the example of standing up, man.

01:38:22.000 I respect that tremendously.

01:38:23.000 What's going on, Luke?

01:38:24.000 That's crazy.

01:38:25.000 What is this?

01:38:25.000 Well, Poland's been making a lot of stances against the European Union.

01:38:29.000 today. I went to ice ring. They had mandate for how many vaccinated and unvaccinated people

01:38:34.000 could be on ice. They enforced it. What's going on, Luke?

01:38:37.000 Well, Poland's been making a lot of stances against the European Union. Very important 1.00

01:38:37.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:38:44.000 political moves. But domestically, I think internally there's places like New York City

01:38:49.000 in Poland and also there's places like Florida in Poland.

01:38:52.000 But I think majority is like like Florida from my perspective. But, you know, everyone has their own

01:38:57.000 rules and however they want to implement it that's up to them.

01:39:01.000 All right.

01:39:02.000 John Christian says, Mark was an awesome guest last night.

01:39:07.000 Would love to see Jim Wendler on, co-founder of Elitefts.

01:39:11.000 What is that?

01:39:11.000 I don't know.

01:39:12.000 I think I'm pronouncing it right.

01:39:13.000 Creator of 531 Lifting Program, elite power lifter, and London, Ohio high school football coach.

01:39:18.000 Great example of building culture.

01:39:19.000 Cool.

01:39:20.000 Sounds good.

01:39:20.000 Check him out.

01:39:21.000 Yeah.

01:39:23.000 Oh, what is this?

01:39:24.000 Uh, Fastfur says, today is my birthday and it was pretty crazy, so here's money. 0.82

01:39:29.000 I meant crap, so here's more money.

01:39:31.000 Well, thank you for your money on your birthday. 0.98

01:39:32.000 Happy birthday.

01:39:35.000 David Traces says, anyone who is willing to demand papers from a child will put that child on the rail car if ordered to.

01:39:41.000 I completely agree, and that's why I tweeted the quote from Michael Malice when he said, There is no law so obscene that a police officer would not be willing to enforce it up to and including executing innocent children.

01:39:52.000 It's a bit of an extreme statement.

01:39:53.000 But he did, he said it before in reference to Waco. Now I get it. Waco was federal law enforcement,

01:40:00.000 but I think we understand his point. When ordered to, they firebombed a house,

01:40:05.000 these law enforcement officers, and they killed many children. So when I saw that video of them

01:40:10.000 telling this kid, show us your papers, I was like, I don't think Michael's wrong.

01:40:14.000 I think the issue is that they're going to assume they're being given orders for a just reason.

01:40:18.000 There's going to be a kid running through the street and they're going to say, stop that kid,

01:40:21.000 he's dangerous and they're going to say okay and that's it. 0.96

01:40:24.000 Kid'll get killed. 0.93

01:40:26.000 Hopefully we never get to that point though. 0.92

01:40:28.000 But I think you see it with a lot of other countries and what they've done.

01:40:31.000 To assume that it can't happen here in America, I think is incorrect. 0.93

01:40:37.000 Brado Jacko says, stop calling people who don't take a possibly deadly jab, irresponsible nitwits.

01:40:44.000 It is irresponsible.

01:40:45.000 Well, for the sake of YouTube, I will just say, I agree with the first part of that.

01:40:51.000 And unfortunately, the second part of that will probably get us in trouble.

01:40:53.000 To put it simply though, it should just be your choice from your medical professional and your advice.

01:41:00.000 And I actually think someone who's willing to say, I'm going to do the groundwork to investigate is a smarter individual.

01:41:06.000 But unfortunately YouTube is an unfriendly beast.

01:41:09.000 That's why we put a lot of our episodes up on Rumble.

01:41:11.000 We have all our clips there as well, which you can definitely check out.

01:41:13.000 All right.

01:41:16.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:41:18.000 We got Ryan Green.

01:41:21.000 He says, I'm not necessarily a big fan of that.

01:41:26.000 I would say if you go there for some reason, do so.

01:41:30.000 But I do think you can call them and ask for a comment and ask them questions about, you know, what's going on with your policies?

01:41:36.000 What are the exemptions?

01:41:37.000 Are there medical exemptions?

01:41:38.000 I think regular people need to understand that there will be social enforcement.

01:41:43.000 The left is really good at this.

01:41:45.000 There's that race car driver whose dad said a naughty word in the 80s, and so he lost his sponsors.

01:41:50.000 That guy, Brandon Brown, over the Let's Go Brandon, he can't get sponsors now!

01:41:54.000 He didn't do anything!

01:41:56.000 It was reporters.

01:41:58.000 They're really good at social enforcement.

01:42:00.000 Ryan Long's new sketch is hilarious where it's a left-wing and right-wing podcaster presenting their sponsors.

01:42:06.000 And the left-wing podcast says, I don't like that Bunker Ties advertises on Patriot Podcast.

01:42:10.000 And then it shows the Patriot Podcast going, Bunker Ties will no longer be advertising with us.

01:42:14.000 It's like even right-wing companies, that whole hubbub over Black Rifle Coffee, should never have happened.

01:42:23.000 Conservative companies and politicians, Republicans, care more about the opinion of the New York Times than their own constituents and fans.

01:42:30.000 Oh, so this news did come out.

01:42:31.000 We didn't get to it.

01:42:32.000 Wraith Customs Firearms says, Hey crew, former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid just died, reported 30 minutes ago via all major mainstream outlets.

01:42:40.000 Can we get your thoughts on him and him Luke?

01:42:45.000 Aliens.

01:42:47.000 He was very big into getting information out about aliens.

01:42:51.000 I don't know too much about him other than that.

01:42:54.000 I don't wish to kind of say anything else further, to be honest.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, you know, I don't know a whole lot about Harry Reid, to be completely honest, because he was before my time.

01:43:02.000 I know that he was into aliens and stuff like that, but for the sake of someone just died, I try to let, you know, things simmer down a little bit.

01:43:09.000 Literally just happened.

01:43:11.000 All right, Steve Van Valkenburg.

01:43:14.000 If no independent or conservative outlets talked about COVID for two weeks or a month, what do you think would happen in the current state?

01:43:21.000 It's a really interesting question.

01:43:21.000 What do you guys think?

01:43:23.000 Mm-hmm.

01:43:24.000 I think one of two things could happen.

01:43:27.000 It's possible that the narrative shifts completely to something else.

01:43:32.000 But conservatives don't control the news cycle.

01:43:34.000 They typically just respond to it.

01:43:35.000 They don't set it.

01:43:36.000 That's how you end up with just a small letter for Covington kids.

01:43:38.000 The response typically will fact check or call it out.

01:43:41.000 But it's possible that if they don't talk about it, the leftist narrative becomes dominant, and then they enact a whole bunch of crazy policies because there's no pushback.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 Or maybe everyone just forgets about it, but I think they would just have no pushback and they'd push even further.

01:43:55.000 I could see it going either way.

01:43:57.000 Not for the mechanism that you're talking about, but just because I think there's a certain percentage of hysterical people on the left who literally continue to do things just to prove they're not Republicans.

01:44:08.000 I mean, we saw people saying that about math.

01:44:10.000 Oh, I wear a mask because people will think I'm a Republican.

01:44:14.000 David Hogg said it.

01:44:15.000 He was like, but people will think I'm conservative.

01:44:17.000 Andrew M says I was diagnosed with COVID yesterday.

01:44:21.000 I could hardly breathe.

01:44:22.000 Referred to the ER with BP 180 over 14, temperature 103.

01:44:26.000 It is still serious but possibly milder.

01:44:29.000 Today I felt I feel okay and got the MAB treatment.

01:44:32.000 Thank God treatment is available.

01:44:35.000 Me and Ian were really bad, man.

01:44:36.000 MAP?

01:44:37.000 What's MAP?

01:44:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:38.000 Monoclonal antibodies?

01:44:40.000 Ian and I were just like, we just felt miserable.

01:44:45.000 It was really, really awful.

01:44:46.000 And then literally 12 hours after the monoclonal antibodies, I was like, I'm better?

01:44:50.000 It was a rough night though, no joke.

01:44:52.000 That was the worst night after I got that treatment.

01:44:56.000 But the next day I was like, wow, I still felt a little sick, but it was clearly gone away.

01:45:01.000 Crazy, crazy.

01:45:02.000 Yeah, I've always thought we should take it seriously, but the issue is not to the extent that the Democrats have been doing, acting like the world's ending. 0.70

01:45:12.000 It's like, look, it's really, really bad.

01:45:15.000 I understand slowing the curve.

01:45:16.000 I understand, you know, trying to take precautions and stuff.

01:45:19.000 I also understand Florida has policies in place that seem to be working very well.

01:45:23.000 So maybe we should look at where the data is actually working and not where it's not.

01:45:28.000 Mr. The Cool says, Head P.E.

01:45:30.000 has a good song called Feel Good.

01:45:32.000 The lyrics speak to me more these days.

01:45:34.000 When you take time to listen, you understand more.

01:45:38.000 Right on.

01:45:40.000 Alright, let's see, where are we at?

01:45:43.000 Calvin Fox says, where is the federal government getting a thousand doctors to help the states?

01:45:48.000 I believe they're military, right?

01:45:50.000 That's what I read.

01:45:50.000 Yeah, sending military doctors.

01:45:53.000 Alright.

01:45:55.000 Granite, what does it say?

01:45:56.000 Granite is...

01:45:58.000 Nice.

01:45:59.000 I do miss Ian, but I've enjoyed seeing Chris on IRL more.

01:46:03.000 Can y'all make him a regular?

01:46:04.000 Oh, well, yeah, especially with Ian popping up.

01:46:06.000 Very kind of you.

01:46:07.000 Thank you very much for saying that.

01:46:07.000 Thank you.

01:46:09.000 Absolutely.

01:46:12.000 Red Coat Leader.

01:46:13.000 Only 2% of patients currently in UK hospitals have tested positive for COVID.

01:46:17.000 This is the lowest for 2021.

01:46:19.000 Boris confirms no new measures for England despite record test number.

01:46:23.000 The pandemic is over!

01:46:25.000 That's what Luke was saying the other day.

01:46:25.000 Maybe.

01:46:27.000 You were saying you thought that Omicron was going to lead to people, like, giving up on it?

01:46:31.000 I don't know if you agree, Yanis.

01:46:33.000 Potentially in a month to three months a lot of scientists are saying that this is the best case scenario because it will build up to natural immunity and then people will of course end this official sickness.

01:46:42.000 So I think there's a possibility I think 80% chance from my own personal perspective that that could happen unless there's another mutation that is again highly debated how it comes up and how it's made but who knows how it will go but I think from everything I'm seeing it's going to be over in a month to three months.

01:46:59.000 And add to that the fatigue.

01:47:02.000 I think for slightly annoying reasons, which is that once all of the reporters in Brooklyn get this behind them, the country will be able to get it behind the entire country.

01:47:12.000 And I think you're already seeing the narrative shift at lightning speed, and I think that's what's going to happen unless, as you say, if there is some major new strain That really changes the equation in some way, but through a combination of vaccinated and natural immunity now, plus the all-important social factor of the hipsters in Brooklyn getting it, I think that last factor is probably more important than any scientific reason.

01:47:37.000 Naturally, a new variant coming that's going to be more lethal and more dangerous is very, very, very rare, and that's why I'm saying that's the situation that's going to happen.

01:47:48.000 All right.

01:47:49.000 Andy Plays Games says, have you seen Don't Look Up?

01:47:52.000 It's a fascinating social commentary in the realm of a comet impact.

01:47:56.000 Replace comet with COVID.

01:47:57.000 Parallels are astounding.

01:47:59.000 I saw like a snippet at the beginning and I thought it was about climate change or whatever, but you said it was good.

01:47:59.000 I didn't see it.

01:48:03.000 I did.

01:48:03.000 I liked it.

01:48:04.000 And again, it's left up for people's interpretation.

01:48:07.000 You could interpret it as you want, but just just think of it as an asteroid.

01:48:10.000 And it was a good critique of the media.

01:48:12.000 The critique of what the corporate media does was absolutely perfect.

01:48:16.000 And I liked it.

01:48:17.000 I enjoyed the movie.

01:48:18.000 I hate watched it last night to the bitter end.

01:48:18.000 Cool.

01:48:20.000 You didn't like it?

01:48:21.000 It's totally appalling.

01:48:22.000 I mean, really?

01:48:23.000 I mean, well, yeah, because I mean, we the director already came out as you know, like, this is all about him dealing with his own anxiety about climate change.

01:48:30.000 You can also watch it through the lens of the flip side of it.

01:48:33.000 It's just like, it's not comet hysteria.

01:48:35.000 It's COVID hysteria.

01:48:36.000 And I guess there's some sort of a defanged political parody in there somewhere.

01:48:40.000 But I, I found the movie awful.

01:48:42.000 I found the acting terrible.

01:48:43.000 And I thought the ending was truly offensive.

01:48:45.000 Wow, the ending was offensive!

01:48:48.000 It was a family-oriented kind of ending, though.

01:48:51.000 Let's not spoil.

01:48:51.000 Right?

01:48:52.000 We're not going to spoil anything from it.

01:48:53.000 I would claim the opposite.

01:48:55.000 And nothing would make me happier to spoil it for everyone.

01:48:55.000 Really?

01:48:59.000 I'm going to have to go watch it.

01:49:02.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:49:03.000 says, Tim, guys, how can I not super chat about Biden saying let's go Brandon to himself in real life?

01:49:10.000 To himself in real life?

01:49:12.000 Inez, how is Biden our leader?

01:49:15.000 Don't ask me. 0.97

01:49:17.000 He's not, he's a puppet. 0.92

01:49:18.000 He said it to himself!

01:49:20.000 That's what killed me about the mainstream, the corporate press coverage, is that, like, the story was this guy came in and he said that and that's just so disrespectful and awful.

01:49:26.000 It's like, no, that's not the story.

01:49:27.000 The story is that he repeated it blindly.

01:49:29.000 And agreed with it!

01:49:30.000 I agreed with it!

01:49:31.000 I agree!

01:49:32.000 I agree!

01:49:32.000 Let's go, Brandon!

01:49:33.000 Yeah!

01:49:34.000 What are you thinking?

01:49:35.000 I do think it's really remarkable that everyone else on that democratic stage was so much worse.

01:49:40.000 Like, that's, I mean, that's remarkable in itself.

01:49:43.000 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

01:49:45.000 It really is.

01:49:46.000 Man.

01:49:46.000 All right.

01:49:47.000 Joseph Ensign says, we have a habit of accepting scapegoats and allowing corrupt structures to persist.

01:49:52.000 Events in history where all guilty parties and their policies are found and removed take the trophy for being the rare occurrence.

01:49:59.000 The circus is powerful.

01:50:01.000 Indeed.

01:50:02.000 And more people mentioning that Harry Reid has passed away.

01:50:06.000 The last thing I saw of him, he was talking about UFOs.

01:50:08.000 Could he have gotten too close to the truth?

01:50:12.000 No, I don't know about that.

01:50:14.000 All right.

01:50:15.000 Mr. Physics says, America's following step for Steph with Tsarist Russia. 0.78

01:50:19.000 Bloated bureaucracy inevitably stonewalling the government into extreme incapability to fulfill its duties.

01:50:25.000 There will be a revolution within the next 20 years.

01:50:28.000 Well, if you believe in the Strassau Generational Theory, that will be in the next six years?

01:50:34.000 Well, it should end by 2028, right?

01:50:34.000 Yeah?

01:50:36.000 Yeah.

01:50:37.000 That's when the Great Conflict is supposed to end.

01:50:40.000 Well, there you go.

01:50:42.000 Mr. Obvious says, Dems need to stay out of red states.

01:50:45.000 They always vote for the same policies they are running from.

01:50:48.000 They ruin everything they touch.

01:50:49.000 They never learn.

01:50:51.000 There's a viral Twitter thread from a guy in San Francisco and he's like, we have to move.

01:50:55.000 We have to leave San Francisco.

01:50:56.000 The policy's here.

01:50:57.000 It's everything's being ruined and we're going to Miami.

01:51:00.000 And of course we recognize the politics of Miami are worse.

01:51:03.000 It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:51:05.000 You're, you're, you're not being honest that you would not move there if it was worse.

01:51:10.000 That's, that's what I'm worried about too.

01:51:11.000 When we see that exodus, how many of these people that are leaving these blue states are actually more conservative leaning or how many are just more progressive and Democrats are going to bring those policies to Florida and Texas?

01:51:20.000 It's one step even more, I think.

01:51:23.000 So when you have companies that move their seats, for example, from San Francisco to Austin, you're going to change the makeup of the state.

01:51:31.000 Because then it won't just be the people who voluntarily leave, some of whom are still sort of liberal Democrats and leaving for other reasons.

01:51:39.000 But at least the majority of people have some skepticism because they're leaving.

01:51:44.000 Once you have companies move their seats to some of these places, they'll just ask their employees to move out and it'll be an indiscriminate selection of mostly rich people in, for example, San Francisco.

01:51:56.000 And then it'll get really, really bad, the political sort of thing.

01:51:59.000 This is what I was saying about Joe Rogan moving from California to Texas.

01:52:03.000 You know, there was that comic we bring up, I think it was Ben Garrison, where he's walking from California carrying a bag.

01:52:09.000 The bag says liberal policies and there's a Texan being like, hey, leave that where you came from.

01:52:15.000 When Elon Musk moves his headquarters from California, all of those California employees who are leftist or left-leaning are now in Texas, and they're now gonna vote.

01:52:24.000 So it's not a good thing when these companies move.

01:52:26.000 Everyone's like, yeah, you show California who's boss, and then they bring all those employees to Texas and they change the makeup, especially when it's at risk of flipping.

01:52:35.000 Could be a bad thing.

01:52:36.000 Yeah, only outside of Austin.

01:52:38.000 Austin's a different story.

01:52:39.000 It's a communist city.

01:52:40.000 Really bad woke doctor says is that was it or is it woke it er? Hey, hey Tim longtime fan

01:52:40.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 Crazy.

01:52:47.000 Yeah, and you know water seeks its level eight inches per mile squared and stuff never go full Ian. What is it?

01:52:55.000 Yeah I was thinking about this when I saw the super chat.

01:53:00.000 I was like, if you had like a big plane that was like a hundred square miles and you put like a hundred tons of water in the middle, how deep would it be in the middle?

01:53:09.000 Like, I don't actually know and I'm sure there's actually an easy way to find out, but would it be leveled all the way across or would it be deeper in the middle because of surface tension?

01:53:17.000 It would be level, I would think, to any measurable degree.

01:53:19.000 That's why he's saying 8 inches per mouse squared.

01:53:22.000 Is that what he's talking about?

01:53:23.000 I don't know.

01:53:23.000 Or is that some kind of like hidden code and Ian is watching and he's like, I got the message.

01:53:26.000 I got the message.

01:53:28.000 I think it's something else.

01:53:30.000 That's actually the thing that's planted by the CIA guy.

01:53:33.000 Yeah.

01:53:34.000 It's an activation code.

01:53:36.000 MKUltra.

01:53:38.000 I actually think what's more likely is that it's not anything in particular, but Ian thinks it's a code.

01:53:42.000 I got the message.

01:53:42.000 And the guy's like, there's no message there.

01:53:46.000 Steel Valor says, Tim, I wonder what the political breakdown is of how many people have died from COVID.

01:53:52.000 You should do a study on this.

01:53:53.000 I think early on it was blue states and then it switched.

01:53:58.000 But that's just if you trust the official data coming out of the New York Times or whatever.

01:54:01.000 I don't actually know the numbers.

01:54:02.000 I would imagine it would skew Republican because older people are more likely to die of COVID, so I would imagine.

01:54:09.000 It would have to be a really strong political effect to overcome the age difference.

01:54:13.000 True.

01:54:14.000 Eric Rietz says, Love you guys and appreciate the show, but my goodness, please get your history straight.

01:54:19.000 Segregation and anti-miscegenation were state-enforced, not cultural.

01:54:23.000 Interstate commerce clause in the Constitution, bolstered by the 14th.

01:54:27.000 I have many times talked about my family having to flee certain states due to anti-miscegenation laws.

01:54:32.000 So we certainly understood and have talked about how it's state-enforced.

01:54:36.000 And then, you know, you end up with Supreme Court rulings.

01:54:38.000 Can I clarify?

01:54:40.000 So that was the debate, right?

01:54:42.000 The previous versions of the Civil Rights Act did not include the public accommodations clause.

01:54:46.000 So the debate over putting in the public accommodations clause was because Even when some of those segregation laws were rolled back on the state level, you still had a massive cultural agreement among businesses that functionally continued segregation.

01:55:01.000 Which is why the debate over that, I should have clarified, not said the whole act, but the public accommodations piece of the Civil Rights Act, which was the major difference between the 64 Act and its previous iterations.

01:55:16.000 Luke, you made a move like you were going to say a word?

01:55:18.000 No, no.

01:55:18.000 No?

01:55:18.000 Okay, alright, there you go.

01:55:20.000 AfganRaven says, Tim, I just retired from the NYPD and would love to discuss why they are acting the way they are.

01:55:26.000 That actually sounds really interesting.

01:55:28.000 Do you still have SpinTheUFO?

01:55:30.000 I do!

01:55:30.000 SpinTheUFO at gmail.com.

01:55:32.000 Sure.

01:55:32.000 What's your name?

01:55:34.000 It's AfganRavenLRT. 0.54

01:55:36.000 Okay.

01:55:37.000 So see if you can connect and I think you know be cool to do like a sit-down interview or something and discuss views from a former police officer and why you retired and does it have anything to do with what's going on?

01:55:50.000 All right.

01:55:52.000 Ivan Chavez, Luke, a true Florida man would have a mullet just saying.

01:55:57.000 Don't do it.

01:55:58.000 Good idea.

01:55:59.000 No.

01:55:59.000 Might happen.

01:56:00.000 I hear the mullets coming back.

01:56:01.000 I could be wrong about that.

01:56:02.000 I think it's only hipsters doing it though.

01:56:05.000 The mullet is very popular now among like 22 year old New York kids.

01:56:09.000 There you go.

01:56:10.000 See?

01:56:11.000 Told you.

01:56:12.000 X says, it's actually closer to tru-en-en-en-er-na-sha-na-na-na-sha-ba-da-pressure.

01:56:19.000 You keep saying tru-en-en-en-er-na-sha-ba-da-pressure.

01:56:21.000 No, it's tru-en-en-en-er-na-sha-ba-da-pressure.

01:56:25.000 Yeah, get it right.

01:56:26.000 Sha-ba.

01:56:26.000 Oh, no.

01:56:27.000 Okay.

01:56:27.000 I'm sorry.

01:56:28.000 He did have the da in there.

01:56:29.000 That's my bad.

01:56:30.000 Okay.

01:56:31.000 Uh, I don't know.

01:56:32.000 I sat there and I had it on loop and slow-mo and I was like trying to write it out.

01:56:37.000 I worked really hard on that one because people were saying true and a lizzle shipper or something like that.

01:56:40.000 And I'm like, that's not what he said.

01:56:42.000 It's, you know, Trina and I shop at a pressure.

01:56:44.000 This is giving me flashbacks to listening to so much speaking in tongues when I lived in rural Kentucky growing up.

01:56:49.000 Yeah.

01:56:49.000 It's just like hearing, I'm just like, I think I hear some, I understand some of these words.

01:56:52.000 Maybe that's what Biden's doing.

01:56:53.000 It's, it's starting to emerge, you know.

01:56:56.000 You should be more careful with our criticisms though.

01:56:59.000 Yeah.

01:57:01.000 Silently in Atlantis has a meme of the nativity.

01:57:04.000 Oh, it just jumped on me.

01:57:04.000 What are you doing, YouTube?

01:57:05.000 They always do that.

01:57:07.000 Okay, now we'll try and go back and figure out where that super... There we go.

01:57:10.000 A meme of the nativity says, even though Mary and Joseph had masks, the innkeeper denied a room since they didn't have a vac status card.

01:57:18.000 Facebook stamped it with an information resource where to find a vaccine.

01:57:22.000 Speechless.

01:57:23.000 Amazing.

01:57:26.000 Matt Fantazzi says, Tim, when can we expect Frank from Quite Frankly on?

01:57:30.000 His recent interview with Chrisanne Hall was a major white pill.

01:57:34.000 She would be a great guest as well.

01:57:36.000 I know Frank.

01:57:36.000 He's a cool dude.

01:57:37.000 We'll hit him up.

01:57:39.000 We'll figure something out.

01:57:40.000 Frank has a podcast, Quite Frankly.

01:57:41.000 I hung out a couple years ago at their studio.

01:57:44.000 Good dude.

01:57:45.000 I haven't talked to him in a minute, just in passing, but we'll reach out to him.

01:57:50.000 Big Bad Beard says the people of NYC need to hold the NYPD accountable of these actions.

01:57:56.000 That is the fastest way to change things.

01:57:59.000 I agree.

01:58:00.000 But, uh, you just moved there.

01:58:02.000 What's your view?

01:58:03.000 No, I mean, that was kind of why I think it's good that the police is doing it.

01:58:06.000 Because when it's the business, there is not really anybody to directly hold accountable that has power over the policy itself.

01:58:14.000 So I agree that the police need to be held accountable, but ultimately the people who need to be held accountable are the people making the political decisions that are ordering the police to do it.

01:58:22.000 Cool.

01:58:23.000 Overdressed says, Pop Culture Crisis is really fun to listen to.

01:58:27.000 I just listened to all the episodes on Spotify.

01:58:30.000 If you haven't, you should.

01:58:33.000 You should go to TimCast.com and check out Pop Culture Crisis.

01:58:36.000 It is a podcast talking about TV shows, movies, etc., pop culture issues.

01:58:43.000 Sometimes talks about cultural stuff, but mostly pop culture, and then sometimes talk about pop culture stuff, but mostly culture and politics.

01:58:49.000 So that's why we were like, we should do a separate show, because we've got a ton of opinions on the new movies that are coming out.

01:58:53.000 We of course love all these movies and music, so let's make a show for it.

01:58:57.000 And we did.

01:58:58.000 And it's a very new channel.

01:59:00.000 We're still working out getting everything going.

01:59:02.000 We're just taking it slow.

01:59:05.000 But if you want, you can go on YouTube and subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis and we'll start promoting it maybe in a few weeks.

01:59:12.000 But we want to get the ball rolling and then once it's established, we'll do like a big promo thing for it.

01:59:17.000 For sure.

01:59:18.000 Uh, Free Speech says, Tim, why were you afraid to hold Jack accountable?

01:59:24.000 Well, I'll say a few things on this.

01:59:25.000 For one, uh, I don't know a whole lot about what went down between Jack and Sidney other than these clips that were on the internet.

01:59:33.000 I didn't watch the show, and it was a few days after what had happened, so I was like, I don't know, look.

01:59:38.000 You know, we have guests who are booked for the show.

01:59:40.000 I don't know about all the drama going on in their lives.

01:59:42.000 Some people pointed out that Fresh and Fit had some drama and they were super chatting us as well.

01:59:46.000 And I'm like, yo, I don't know anything about it.

01:59:48.000 I'm not here to condemn or condone any kind of behavior.

01:59:51.000 I can certainly say I told Jack he should have apologized outright to Sydney because he should not have snapped at her like that.

01:59:57.000 And that's all I can really say.

01:59:59.000 I mean, holding them accountable require being involved in a better understanding of what happened.

02:00:05.000 So I definitely feel bad because I think Sydney and Elijah are cool people and I... I don't know.

02:00:12.000 I don't know, man.

02:00:13.000 That's all I can really say about it for the most part other than I hope everybody can figure out how to find peace and get along and we can, you know, strive to do better with fighting towards liberty and freedom.

02:00:22.000 And shout out to Elijah and Sydney.

02:00:24.000 Their show is You Are Here.

02:00:25.000 They do a good job and they're cool people and I don't know what this talk is about Rakeit Alar or anything like that.

02:00:30.000 Rakeit is a rad dude and he's always welcome on the show as well.

02:00:33.000 And, uh, I don't know.

02:00:35.000 If there's any other Super Chats, I'll see what I can read. 0.99

02:00:37.000 Danny Lincoln says, I got offered to film for Monster Energy.

02:00:40.000 Pretty much a dream job.

02:00:41.000 I had to turn them down because I said I need to get the jab.

02:00:44.000 That's the way things are going, man.

02:00:45.000 That's the way things are going.

02:00:47.000 Alright.

02:00:49.000 Porter Davidson says, did you guys hear that Kamala Harris said that democracy is the greatest national threat?

02:00:55.000 I don't think we should give her the benefit of the doubt that she misspoke.

02:00:57.000 Did she really say that?

02:00:58.000 I looked that up.

02:00:59.000 Did she say that?

02:00:59.000 I'm not sure.

02:01:00.000 Well, I gotta be honest.

02:01:02.000 I'm not a big fan of the act like democracy on its own.

02:01:07.000 You know what I mean by that is like Benjamin Franklin said, what did he say?

02:01:12.000 He said, a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding on what's for lunch

02:01:16.000 and a republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

02:01:18.000 So when you really, I think most people understand this

02:01:23.000 probably even better than I do.

02:01:24.000 But when you really start to read through history and understand the purpose of the republic,

02:01:27.000 you're like, oh, I kind of get that, man.

02:01:29.000 Smaller states need to have the ability to defend themselves from larger and more powerful states.

02:01:33.000 Otherwise you can't have a cohesive system.

02:01:35.000 That's why we have a constitutional republic with democratic electoral processes.

02:01:40.000 There you go.

02:01:42.000 8Ball says, can you truly say a country is free if you are forced to vote for a set principles in direct opposition to your own?

02:01:49.000 Well, no.

02:01:50.000 In the United States, you can vote for whatever you want, but there is a dominant social culture, man, so... Alright, let's just read one more.

02:01:56.000 We'll read one more here.

02:01:58.000 I don't know a whole lot about what's going on in the UK, but we definitely need the data and there was a big controversy because Pfizer doesn't want to release it until what, like 2050 or something?

02:02:05.000 BBC UK media, the data cannot be trusted and a review has to happen.

02:02:09.000 I don't know a whole lot about what's going on in the UK, but we definitely need the data

02:02:13.000 and there was a big controversy because Pfizer doesn't want to release it until what, like

02:02:16.000 2050 or something?

02:02:17.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:18.000 Yeah.

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02:02:44.000 Inez, do you want to shout out social media or anything else?

02:02:46.000 Sure, you can follow me on Twitter at Inez Feltcher, F-E-L-T-S-C-H-E-R.

02:02:50.000 But if you type in Stettmann, it'll pop up.

02:02:52.000 Thank you so much for coming.

02:02:53.000 It was awesome to have you here.

02:02:55.000 I have my own media organization called We Are Change.

02:02:57.000 You could watch a video I did today on YouTube.

02:03:00.000 And I did another one about my predictions for the future on LukeUncensored.com.

02:03:04.000 Hope to see some of you guys there.

02:03:06.000 Thanks for having me.

02:03:08.000 Chris Carr 17 on Twitter, 17 in honor of the 17th letter in the alphabet.

02:03:17.000 Thank you.

02:03:18.000 And I am also here in the corner.

02:03:19.000 It does look like Kamala Harris said that democracy is the biggest national security threat in a CBS interview, which is really interesting.

02:03:26.000 When?

02:03:26.000 A couple days ago.

02:03:27.000 Yeah, I didn't see that at all.

02:03:28.000 Slipped right by me.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, that's terrifying.

02:03:31.000 Anyway, you guys may follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lintz.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 29, 2021

Timcast IRL - NYPD Demands Papers From CHILD, Arrest Anti Mandate Protesters w-Inez Stepman

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