Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Poll Says Young Democrat Men REJECT Feminism SHOCKING Feminists w-Dr Chloe Carmichael

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:41.000 you last night we talked a little bit about this

00:01:10.000 There's a poll that was produced by the Southern Poverty Law Center and another organization they teamed up on it.

00:01:15.000 In it, they find that young men of both political parties think feminism has done more harm than good.

00:01:21.000 And that's fascinating.

00:01:22.000 I also thought it was interesting that this study comes out around the same time as the Daily Wire's What is a Woman?

00:01:29.000 Where we're basically learning that a lot of these ideas are becoming extremely unpopular, even among young Democrats.

00:01:35.000 So today, we're going to talk a whole lot about modern feminism, where it's at, why young men feel this way.

00:01:41.000 We're going to talk about the ideas presented in What Is A Woman from The Daily Wire.

00:01:45.000 We've got the top psychologists talking about how half of their patients are trans kids.

00:01:50.000 And we'll explore modern feminism and why people are so angry about it.

00:01:54.000 And I want to talk about families.

00:01:55.000 Because we've got this article talking about how it's time to have Tamagotchi children.

00:02:00.000 They're talking about young people who shouldn't have kids, probably because of climate change, should have robo-AI children instead, which is just very, very creepy.

00:02:10.000 But I think it'll be fun.

00:02:10.000 It's a Friday night.

00:02:11.000 We're going to talk about a lot of really important ideas.

00:02:13.000 And joining us to discuss this is Dr. Chloe Carmichael.

00:02:16.000 Hi.

00:02:17.000 Would you like to introduce yourself?

00:02:19.000 Sure, so I'm Dr. Chloe Carmichael, clinical psychologist and author of Nervous Energy, Harness the Power of Your Anxiety, and Dr. Chloe's Ten Commandments of Dating.

00:02:28.000 I was a yoga teacher before I was a psychologist and I'm also a wife and a mom.

00:02:33.000 Alright, well we have a clinical psychologist to talk to us about what it means to be a woman and all those other things, so thank you for joining.

00:02:41.000 My pleasure.

00:02:42.000 We got Seamus.

00:02:42.000 Got another expert here.

00:02:43.000 I'm a cartoonist.

00:02:44.000 Um, so I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:02:47.000 We just uploaded a video like, was any of that?

00:02:49.000 We just uploaded a video like, uh, two days ago that, or yesterday that I think you guys will really enjoy.

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00:03:04.000 Hey guys, Ian Crosland in the house.

00:03:06.000 What's up?

00:03:07.000 I watched about 30 minutes of What Is A Woman so far.

00:03:09.000 I'm really excited to talk about what I've seen.

00:03:10.000 Only 30?

00:03:11.000 Yeah, not yet.

00:03:11.000 I launched into it about 6.30.

00:03:15.000 And I want to talk to you a little bit about your book.

00:03:16.000 Well, hopefully more than a little bit about your book, Chloe, because I wonder how to harness that nervous energy myself sometimes.

00:03:21.000 Maybe we can get down on that later.

00:03:23.000 Sounds good.

00:03:24.000 And I am also here in the corner pushing buttons trying to adjust all the volumes properly for all my guests.

00:03:30.000 Thank you very much for joining us tonight, Chloe.

00:03:31.000 I'm very excited to learn what a woman is. 1.00

00:03:33.000 I did watch a documentary, but they were not big on answers.

00:03:37.000 Well, Matt Walsh was.

00:03:38.000 Yeah, he sure was.

00:03:39.000 Well, unsurprisingly, ladies and gentlemen, today's show is actually sponsored by The Daily Wire and What Is A Woman.

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00:03:48.000 You know, I'm just gonna say this.

00:03:49.000 Guys, Daily Wire, I can't believe you paid me to promote this, because I was already a fan of it and I was already shouting it out.

00:03:54.000 So when they were told, like, oh, The Daily Wire would like it if you shouted out whatisawoman.com, I was like, I'm already doing that, but I'll take the money!

00:04:01.000 No, it really is really well produced.

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00:04:07.000 Matt Walsh goes on a journey to see if the question can be answered, what is a woman?

00:04:13.000 Talking with a bunch of experts, and unfortunately, they can't seem to give... I don't want to spoil the movie, but you need to see how they respond to the question.

00:04:21.000 Anger?

00:04:22.000 Animosity?

00:04:22.000 Fear?

00:04:23.000 Yo, it's absolutely ridiculous. 0.89

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00:05:25.000 Let's jump into that first story.

00:05:27.000 We got this one from The Daily Caller.

00:05:29.000 Paul, young men of both political parties think feminism does more harm than good.

00:05:35.000 Sounds like toxic masculinity to me, Tim.

00:05:38.000 You're right, except Republican women of all ages also really don't like it. 0.99

00:05:42.000 Interesting.

00:05:42.000 Well, but hold on, what is a Republican woman?

00:05:46.000 Well, I suppose if we're talking about identities, a Republican woman is a Republican adult human female.

00:05:53.000 Sounds like circular logic.

00:05:54.000 But a Democrat woman could be something totally different. 1.00

00:05:56.000 Well, because now, I mean, look, look.

00:05:58.000 Obviously we have wonderful progress in this era where a word can mean whatever you want it to mean instead of what it actually means.

00:06:03.000 And so maybe it's the case, unfortunately, that there's a negative side effect here where men are just saying that they're women, disguising themselves as women, and then telling these pollsters feminism is bad to make us think women oppose it.

00:06:14.000 What if these are Democrat, what if these are Republican men who don't realize because they identify as Democrats that they're not really Democrats?

00:06:21.000 We're not really men.

00:06:22.000 I actually think that's an argument they would entertain.

00:06:24.000 They're like, well, if a Democrat men says he hates feminism, he's actually a conservative.

00:06:27.000 There you go.

00:06:27.000 Yeah.

00:06:27.000 So he's just wrongly identifying.

00:06:29.000 My biggest problem with it is that the definition of feminism has changed over the years. 1.00

00:06:32.000 There's actually four to five waves of feminism. 1.00

00:06:35.000 My mother was raised, she raised me kind of as like a second wave feminist, where it was about equality of opportunity for every person. 1.00

00:06:41.000 Didn't really matter what your gender was. 0.67

00:06:43.000 And that was basically it.

00:06:45.000 It was never like talking down to men.

00:06:47.000 It never was about making men, because I used to ask it like as a question as a kid.

00:06:50.000 Does that mean men are bad?

00:06:51.000 Does it mean women are better? 0.99

00:06:53.000 And she said, no, no.

00:06:54.000 It's about equality of opportunity for these people.

00:06:57.000 First wave feminism was the, we should get to vote, right? 1.00

00:07:00.000 And second wave feminism was that no more firm, open palm slaps on the behind from men in the workplace kind of stuff. 1.00

00:07:07.000 Essentially.

00:07:07.000 Like equality in the workplace, you know, that, I don't know, 1950s era smoking, you know, guy smoking, like, come here, babe.

00:07:15.000 That stuff's out.

00:07:15.000 The sexual revolution, I think, birth control.

00:07:17.000 Being able to get credit cards and bank accounts, things like that in the 70s, 60s.

00:07:22.000 That's fascinating, though.

00:07:23.000 Tell me about that.

00:07:24.000 Well, it used to be that women used to have a harder time with that kind of thing, you know, being able to get mortgages and bank accounts and things. 1.00

00:07:31.000 So, you know, when like the Equal Rights Act and everything was able to help us with that.

00:07:37.000 Well, so but do you know why that was?

00:07:38.000 Was it was it like men at banks were like, babe, you think I'm giving you a loan?

00:07:43.000 Never gonna happen.

00:07:43.000 Get out of here.

00:07:44.000 I think that was the 20s, though, by the way, in the 70s, they were hippies, right?

00:07:48.000 Yeah, I think that it was, you know, just previously not illegal to discriminate against somebody because of their sex.

00:07:54.000 And so, you know, maybe for whatever reason, banks just said, you know, well, maybe as a woman, you're gonna have a baby and not pay your loan back or whatever it was, for whatever reason, they just didn't tend to extend credit to women. 1.00

00:08:05.000 I think, you know what it probably was?

00:08:07.000 The woman would go in to get a credit card and they would say, and is your husband okay with this? 0.73

00:08:12.000 And when they were like, my husband doesn't matter, they'd say, well, he pays the bills, doesn't he?

00:08:16.000 So, you know, before women were as prominent in the workplace or in higher positions, they probably just said, you have lower credit just inherently by not doing these jobs. 0.99

00:08:25.000 Sure.

00:08:26.000 Could be.

00:08:27.000 Well, this is the kind of feminism that most people are like, yeah, that's cool. 1.00

00:08:30.000 You know, like, you shouldn't discriminate on these ba- Like, it should be your job, it should be your actual credit.

00:08:36.000 Not, you know, you got boobs, you can't have a credit card.

00:08:39.000 That seems, like, arbitrary.

00:08:40.000 The Equal Pay Act, that's from 1963, signed by Kennedy.

00:08:43.000 I haven't looked too deeply into how it's read, but the Equal Pay Act, it's a labor law, prohibits gender-based wage discrimination.

00:08:50.000 I feel like that was made redundant by the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

00:08:53.000 Could have been.

00:08:54.000 Maybe the precursor to that.

00:08:55.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.000 So now, feminism, you know, probably the reason young men don't like it is that modern feminism is what?

00:09:01.000 A catch-all term for basically all sorts of weird bigotry, discrimination, rage, even violence?

00:09:09.000 I think even from the get-go though, when there were arguments to be made that women were being treated unfairly in certain respects, the feminist movement was still mostly pushing for the, so to speak, privileges men had rather than the responsibilities even at that time.

00:09:20.000 So for example, women couldn't vote, they also couldn't be drafted. 1.00

00:09:24.000 Part of why many women didn't want the right to vote at that time is because they thought it was going to come along with a duty to be drafted, which feminists at that time did not argue for while they were arguing for the vote. 1.00

00:09:34.000 So you're saying women should be drafted? 0.98

00:09:36.000 Well, no.

00:09:36.000 My point is that I think part of the issue is even from the beginning when we're discussing legitimate issues, feminists were more or less.

00:09:42.000 They were saying men and women are equal and should be treated equally in every respect, but then they would conveniently ignore the responsibilities men had, which women didn't, and not pursue equality there.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, with rights come responsibilities.

00:09:54.000 I looked it up also just to clarify.

00:09:55.000 It was 1974, the Equal Credit Opportunity Act to prohibit credit discrimination on gender.

00:10:01.000 Wow.

00:10:02.000 Well, what's your view?

00:10:03.000 You're the clinical psychologist here.

00:10:06.000 I'm curious what your thoughts are on modern feminism. 1.00

00:10:08.000 Yeah, I mean, that's such a loaded issue, right?

00:10:12.000 I mean, I think, Tim, that probably I kind of go with you in the sense that I'm obviously for equal rights for everybody.

00:10:19.000 But I think a lot of women actually kind of want the right to be more traditional, the right to be able to Be respected as a woman to be able to recognize that homemaking and housewifery and raising babies that those things actually really matter and you know girls getting kind of pushed into this stuff under the guise of girl power is sometimes not quite so empowering.

00:10:42.000 Also as a boy mom myself meaning I'm a mom to a son I think also some of this you know girl power stuff has actually gone a little bit too far to the point where It's hurting boys, which is actually also hurting girls to the point where girls don't want to date weak men.

00:10:58.000 But that's unfortunately what some of this over-the-top girl power stuff seems to be doing. 1.00

00:11:03.000 You say it hurts boys.

00:11:04.000 What's an example of that that you've seen?

00:11:06.000 Well, I mean, so if we are praising and helping girls to the point where, for example, girls are outpacing boys when it comes to college graduation or graduate school, girls are actually also paid more than boys now, on average, upon graduation from college.

00:11:24.000 So, I mean, these are just a few examples, but obviously also boys' suicide rate is much higher and other types of problems.

00:11:31.000 And so when we're, you know, just still for whatever reason still focusing on, you know, more federal dollars to help girls in school when in fact it's boys who have a literacy crisis.

00:11:42.000 So anyway, all of the focus on girls, I think is kind of a little bit superfluous at this point.

00:11:48.000 Well, this sounds like really good news for young chads, right?

00:11:51.000 If the average man is making less money than the women, they're basically out of the dating pool. 1.00

00:11:56.000 And then the very small proportion of chad young millennial, you know, Gen Z men who are making all the money get all the women.

00:12:02.000 You and you see the problem will you see this all the time whenever there's some Twitter thread that goes viral about

00:12:07.000 someone who's Using tinder and she finds a guy that she likes and she swipes

00:12:10.000 on him and then finds out he's been talking to 20 other Girls, it's like well, that's because you swiped on like 99

00:12:14.000 guys swiped on that one guy And it was the same thing for all the other girls. So he

00:12:17.000 just had a bunch of options That's what ends up happening when the monogamous social 1.00

00:12:20.000 standards break down. But also I agree with what you're saying

00:12:24.000 I think it's very interesting because you'll have these nebulous campaigns about how girls are called bossy more often, which isn't really something we can test for, have statistics on, and yet we ignore the fact that boys are put on... I've never heard that.

00:12:35.000 That's an argument, yeah, but there was a whole campaign, ban bossy, right?

00:12:38.000 And we were told that we should all kind of like hang our heads in shame because when girls are assertive, they're told they're bossy. 1.00

00:12:43.000 And no one at the same time will talk about the fact that Boys are more likely to be prescribed ADHD medicine in school.

00:12:49.000 They are literally chemically altered because our public educational system is failing them and no one seems to consider it an issue.

00:12:55.000 Well, we're also chemically altering young girls with birth control en masse. 0.60

00:12:59.000 Yes, agreed.

00:13:00.000 Well, I think that's a problem as well.

00:13:01.000 Hormonal birth control causes problems that no one's willing to acknowledge.

00:13:04.000 I've never experienced a work environment where people have complained about a female who is bossy. 1.00

00:13:10.000 Like, I've never... I've heard the argument, but I've never been in an environment where I'm, like, at lunch and someone's like, man, that Janet's so bossy. 0.96

00:13:17.000 I've just... it's never happened. 0.99

00:13:19.000 I've heard people be like, my boss is a dick. 0.99

00:13:20.000 And I'd be like, who's your boss? 1.00

00:13:22.000 It's John.

00:13:22.000 I'm like, oh.

00:13:23.000 Or like, who's your... Or it's Janet.

00:13:25.000 Like, I don't like my boss.

00:13:27.000 I don't know, it's just, most people don't like their bosses.

00:13:31.000 You know? I just, it's a weird thing that's like, I wonder if that is in and itself sexism, these assumptions.

00:13:37.000 Yeah, well no it is.

00:13:38.000 The assumption of victimhood, the assumption...

00:13:40.000 I'll tell you something else, man.

00:13:42.000 I was talking to this guy who produces documentaries, and we were talking about this issue,

00:13:46.000 and he was like, he told me, he was like, my experience was that whenever we would have pitch meetings, 0.99

00:13:51.000 the women in the meeting room would be giving us stupid ideas. 1.00

00:13:54.000 And then everyone would be getting really frustrated and annoyed with these really dumb ideas. 1.00

00:13:58.000 And then she would complain that no one takes her opinion seriously because she's a woman. 1.00

00:14:02.000 And we try to explain to her, no, it's because your ideas are dumb, but she took it to the female place instead of the bad at her job place. 0.97

00:14:07.000 And you know what it was? 0.98

00:14:09.000 Because she was brought into the room because she was a woman, because they needed diversity.

00:14:12.000 It's true.

00:14:13.000 That can happen.

00:14:13.000 And then also because women can sometimes be more sensitive to criticism, right?

00:14:19.000 And if you do criticize that woman's ideas in the boardroom, then, you know, you can get this big reaction of like, you know, well, you know, you're undermining me because I'm a woman or you're not taking me seriously because I'm a woman.

00:14:29.000 You know, what they're doing, unfortunately, then is depriving themselves of the chance to have real honest feedback and collaboration and even to, you know, engage and spar and develop and improve because they're bringing it all, you know, to being a woman. 0.52

00:14:42.000 And so then nobody does comment.

00:14:44.000 Nobody wants to say anything unless it's going to be really, you know, nicey nice.

00:14:48.000 And then they wonder why nobody ultimately goes forward with those ideas.

00:14:52.000 Yep.

00:14:53.000 I think when you have when you have What's the quota?

00:14:59.000 Filled roles?

00:15:00.000 You're gonna see a lot more of this.

00:15:01.000 Where people who are minorities or women are going to feel like there's racism.

00:15:07.000 Maybe that's the goal.

00:15:08.000 Maybe many of these activists want to create this by putting people who are unskilled in positions they're not qualified for, so that they feel inadequate constantly, and then the person can come in and say, oh, that feeling?

00:15:19.000 Racism.

00:15:20.000 Well, we have to understand this is a very, very serious problem because whenever we talk about the idea of like marginalized communities, whether you're talking about, you know, the alphabet people or you're talking about people who are, you know, minorities because of their ethnic group in this country.

00:15:35.000 The most serious problem, I think, is the breakdown of the relationship between men and women, because that is the most fundamentally important social relationship that exists.

00:15:43.000 Men are supposed to open pickle jars, and women have babies! 1.00

00:15:46.000 That's right!

00:15:46.000 Those are the rules!

00:15:47.000 But no, I mean, people will talk about, like, sexism, homophobia, etc., and I think with sexism, unfortunately, whenever there are issues that are addressed with the relationship between the sexes, it's always in one direction.

00:15:59.000 The conversation can only ever be Women are being treated unfairly and men are bad. 0.96

00:16:03.000 And what's interesting about that is there's actually kind of a kernel of traditionalism and natural law in that because people recognize that it is the role of men to protect women and to care for women and to provide for them.

00:16:14.000 And so it's sort of bizarre because we have this concoction where we're told that men and women are exactly equal, but also men still have to fulfill this traditional role of being the one who cares for her and protects her.

00:16:25.000 And who's tough and has a thick skin.

00:16:27.000 Like remember that Amber Heard taper, she's like, tell him Johnny, tell him that you were abused.

00:16:32.000 And she's just like, you know, going...

00:16:34.000 See who believes you.

00:16:35.000 Exactly.

00:16:36.000 And then nobody talks about toxic femininity, of course, but toxic masculinity all the time is this big thing.

00:16:42.000 So I think you're absolutely right. 0.83

00:16:44.000 It's so much more normalized and comfortable for people, whether it's at school or work or personal lives or whatever, to just trash talk men.

00:16:52.000 I just want to make a point about toxic masculinity.

00:16:56.000 This is a term which they always fiend confusion over whenever anyone points out that it's offensive.

00:17:01.000 It is clearly an intentionally provocative phrase.

00:17:04.000 If you wanted to get authentically masculine men on board with your project, you would not label their bad behavior as a form of masculinity.

00:17:13.000 You would say something like, well, actually, these men are behaving in an effeminate way when they treat women poorly because they're not being men who are protectors.

00:17:19.000 Instead, they label it masculinity and go, well, why would you be against us calling it toxic masculinity?

00:17:25.000 It's like because you're attacking men in general and then claiming you're only attacking a small subsection.

00:17:30.000 So what is toxic femininity? 1.00

00:17:33.000 Well, I mean, so I don't mean to jump ahead of ourselves, but I mean, I did bring up Amber Heard, right?

00:17:38.000 I mean, I, you know, so she's toxic when, when, when we, when we think about toxic masculinity, they say that it's when you take things that are traditionally masculine virtues, like maybe toughness or competitiveness and, you take them to a twisted extreme.

00:17:54.000 And so with women, if you think about it in Spanish, they have something called marionismo, 1.00

00:18:01.000 and it's the opposite of machismo.

00:18:03.000 So machismo is obviously, we all know what machismo is.

00:18:06.000 Marionismo would be almost like the kind of a counterpart to that, which is where there's

00:18:11.000 this extreme reliance on kind of a victim role.

00:18:17.000 With the Amber Heard thing as well, it was very interesting because from a criminal psychology

00:18:22.000 standpoint, attractive women will always fare better in a courtroom than an unattractive 1.00

00:18:27.000 woman unless it is shown that she used her attractiveness to in some way carry off the 0.87

00:18:34.000 crime and then her attractiveness will statistically turn against her. 0.99

00:18:40.000 So about toxic femininity then, that would be the case of a woman who uses her femininity, 1.00

00:18:46.000 her beguiling feminine self in a way that twists and manipulates and deceives people. 0.99

00:18:54.000 And I think part of why they will never acknowledge that is because to do so is to understand and acknowledge that there are certain benefits to being a woman.

00:19:03.000 I think a lot of what we're seeing in modern Western culture, the failures, are due to masculinity being gutted and purged, which is creating this imbalance where a massive outgrowth of femininity Becomes toxic and there's no strong men to rebalance.

00:19:21.000 So like you mentioned, you all of a sudden have the oppression Olympics.

00:19:25.000 Everyone has to be a victim.

00:19:27.000 Toxic femininity is taking over. 1.00

00:19:29.000 Absolutely, even to the point where they have to make it up.

00:19:31.000 And you know what?

00:19:32.000 It's not good for the women either. 1.00

00:19:33.000 I mean, I've sat with women in my office as a clinical psychologist that have expressed profound shame.

00:19:41.000 Women, you know, that are in their mid-late twenties that say, you know, back in college I cheated on my boyfriend and I felt really bad about it and I you know, kind of said it was date rape and, you know, I

00:19:52.000 and they they they realize, you know, years later that that they basically ruined somebody's

00:19:57.000 life.

00:19:58.000 But at the time, as soon as they even kind of utter the words, you know, well, I he he

00:20:03.000 made me or whatever, then all of a sudden they activate this, you know, big support

00:20:06.000 network around them.

00:20:08.000 And I've actually also spoken for an organization called FACE Families Advocating for Campus

00:20:13.000 Equality.

00:20:14.000 And they they try to assist young men who are being what's called Title Nine at schools

00:20:18.000 now where it's a verb, you know, that a woman can just say, oh, well, you know, he raped 0.88

00:20:23.000 me or, you know, he harassed me.

00:20:25.000 And in many cases, the man is actually removed from school immediately while the school does

00:20:32.000 some kind of a kangaroo court thing.

00:20:33.000 So toxic femininity. 0.99

00:20:35.000 This is why the Johnny Depp Amber Heard thing was such a big deal for a lot of people.

00:20:39.000 I'm not gonna say for everybody.

00:20:40.000 For a lot of people, it was just celebrity gossip.

00:20:42.000 But you had a guy who was accused, and he won.

00:20:45.000 All of this Me Too stuff was just like... You had Aziz Ansari.

00:20:48.000 Do you remember that?

00:20:49.000 He had a bad date.

00:20:50.000 And the owner was like, it was terrible.

00:20:52.000 So they tried to go after him.

00:20:53.000 It's insane.

00:20:54.000 That was insane because I remember the woman said, basically, like, I went to his house, I, you know, I think she said she went down on him, then she gave him a handoff, you know what I mean?

00:21:03.000 Like, and there was no talk of him, like, forcing her to stay.

00:21:07.000 I mean, again, I think she, like, of her own free will.

00:21:10.000 She mentioned how he was, like, really nice and saying things like, you know, we don't have to or something like that.

00:21:14.000 Yeah.

00:21:15.000 And I mean, this is why it actually hurts women. 1.00

00:21:17.000 I mean, on the surface of it, it looks like, oh, look, women are wielding this incredible power. 1.00

00:21:23.000 But the truth is that it actually hurts women. 0.82

00:21:25.000 It infantilizes women. 1.00

00:21:27.000 It suggests that we're not actually capable of going out and having some drinks and making our own choices and being able to stand by them.

00:21:34.000 It's actually hurting women. 1.00

00:21:36.000 I would argue part of what all of this comes from is our society's insistence upon suppressing the innate understanding that sex is a special thing.

00:21:46.000 So people think they can just go out and do it meaninglessly, and then they regret it.

00:21:50.000 But because the culture constantly signals to them that there's nothing wrong with doing that, they wonder, why do I feel bad about this experience?

00:21:58.000 And I think one conclusion they could draw from it is there must have been some coercive element here.

00:22:02.000 I must not have chosen this because I've regretted this.

00:22:05.000 And I've actually seen people say, oh yeah, no, if you regretted it, then it was coerced, which is an insane thing to say.

00:22:12.000 I will say the interesting thing about it is in modern culture, we associate hookups with regret.

00:22:19.000 That in TV shows and movies, it's like they wake up the next day like, oh man.

00:22:24.000 Then you also have the walk of shame.

00:22:26.000 Of course.

00:22:26.000 After someone hooks up in college and they're walking out of the dorm or the frat or sorority house, it's like a shameful thing.

00:22:33.000 And I'm like, that's really weird for a society that's trying to tell people it's shameless, it's prideful.

00:22:39.000 But then in every facet, people feel something negative about the experience.

00:22:44.000 It's so interesting to me that they still feel shame.

00:22:47.000 I still firmly believe that shame holds a very important role in society and people just choose to ignore it.

00:22:53.000 And one of the things I've constantly said is that every sex scene in every movie is completely unnecessary because our culture does not believe that sex means anything.

00:23:02.000 What's the point of having sex?

00:23:04.000 You're just doing a thing.

00:23:05.000 Who cares?

00:23:06.000 Are you deeply in love?

00:23:07.000 Oh, yeah, I just watched the boys Sorry, the I watched the first

00:23:11.000 Episode I think just the first episode. Have you ever seen the boys? No, the superhero show

00:23:17.000 Yeah, and in like the first 15 minutes There's just like a ton of sex and then I was like it didn't

00:23:22.000 do anything for the story at all You know, I was like

00:23:26.000 It's like we're sitting here and they're like, you know, it does something for the guy who made this story

00:23:29.000 That's why you put it in there. Exactly. I guess like there's like a scene that didn't even need to happen

00:23:34.000 It happens all the time.

00:23:36.000 Yeah, I know.

00:23:37.000 I was like, what was that?

00:23:41.000 Even in films where two people having sex was important to the plot, you never need to show it.

00:23:46.000 It's very interesting that they choose to so often.

00:23:49.000 Yeah.

00:23:50.000 Well, it's clear to me that they just want it to be borderline pornographic, just to draw the eyes and the clicks or whatever, because as far as I can tell, in this culture, sex means nothing, which is incredibly sad to me.

00:24:02.000 I think there's a deeper question in, you know, why do humans have these hookups and then regret it in the morning?

00:24:08.000 Why is that such a common thing that's I still feel shame.

00:24:11.000 Yeah, like why?

00:24:12.000 Interesting.

00:24:13.000 If you hook up with like a girl that's your friend that you're not attracted to when you're both drunk and then the next morning you're like, oh god, what have I done?

00:24:19.000 I've changed the dynamic of my relationship.

00:24:21.000 That's the only shame I've ever felt walking out of a girl's house. 1.00

00:24:25.000 But every other time it's like, hell yeah.

00:24:27.000 Well, so when we drink, it almost kind of, for lack of a better word, sort of disables our executive lobe, which is the part of ourselves that thinks about future consequences and things like that.

00:24:38.000 And also, of course, when it's a hookup situation, one person is usually kind of pouring on the charm, right?

00:24:47.000 She's laughing at all of his jokes.

00:24:50.000 He's telling her how good she looks.

00:24:52.000 And they're both making a little bit of a concerted effort to get into each other's

00:24:56.000 pants.

00:24:57.000 So it's almost like they're kind of on a drug of euphoria in that moment and then the next

00:25:01.000 morning when reality sets in.

00:25:05.000 And Lydia, to your point about shame as well, I want to back you up on that.

00:25:09.000 There's a psychological healthy function of shame, which is to let us know when we have broken our own boundaries and broken our own standards, there's actually a healthy sense of when we've come up short that serves to guide us that we need to make a change.

00:25:24.000 There was a viral story at a college, a poster was put up that said, if you are both drunk, like if you're a man and you and the woman are drunk and you both hook up, you raped her.

00:25:35.000 Right, which is so insulting to women. 1.00

00:25:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:38.000 Because basically what that is saying is that I need a chaperone if I'm going to go out and have drinks.

00:25:42.000 You know, like that's where that goes.

00:25:44.000 It means that I'm not able to just choose anymore, like how much to drink and when I'm ready to go home with somebody.

00:25:49.000 I mean, I'm married now, so I'm just speaking hypothetically.

00:25:53.000 I'm pretty sure there was a story where, yeah, I vaguely remember this.

00:25:57.000 I think Reason reported it.

00:25:58.000 A man and a woman both got drunk and hooked up at a college, and the man immediately went to the school and reported her for raping him, and she got in trouble.

00:26:05.000 And they were all freaking out, and they were like, that's the way the game works.

00:26:09.000 He was worried that she was gonna go and report him, so he reported her first, and then he wins, because he reported her first.

00:26:14.000 That's interesting.

00:26:14.000 But yeah, I did want to say, I do think that the fact that a woman can't have a few drinks and maintain her bodily autonomy When I started hearing about kids who are able to change their gender at the drop of a hat, I was like, this is so insulting that I can't go out and have a beer and then sleep.

00:26:30.000 Not that I ever would.

00:26:31.000 I would never.

00:26:31.000 I never have.

00:26:32.000 Now I'm married, so it's fine.

00:26:33.000 But it's like that you would have no bodily autonomy just by the mere act of drinking a few drinks. 0.94

00:26:39.000 It's ridiculous to me. 0.97

00:26:40.000 It's treating women like children. 1.00

00:26:43.000 Let me pull up this story because I simply googled it and I found it from Reason.

00:26:46.000 Male student accuses female student of sexual assault, says she wanted revenge.

00:26:52.000 Title IX creates a prisoner's dilemma.

00:26:55.000 Students have to file sexual misconduct complaints to avoid being the accused.

00:26:59.000 This is actually really crazy.

00:27:01.000 The gist of the story is that a male accuser, in an unusual move, filed a Title IX complaint against her.

00:27:07.000 The female students filed a lawsuit. 0.77

00:27:09.000 So this is an inversion of what we typically see where the male gets accused.

00:27:13.000 I think this guy just knew what the game was.

00:27:15.000 He's like, she's gonna falsely accuse me.

00:27:17.000 Let's go for it.

00:27:18.000 Exactly.

00:27:18.000 It's kind of like what Seamus was saying as well about how this whole situation is eroding the male-female dynamic, right, where there's almost like this, you know, race to see who's going to file on the other person first, you know, defensively.

00:27:30.000 And this is for people who just, you know, made love.

00:27:33.000 Look at this, look at this.

00:27:33.000 It says, so there's, what is it, Jane Roe and John Doe, because their names are blocked out.

00:27:38.000 So, the woman contends it was ridiculous to find her guilty of non-consensual sex because of the man's drunkness, but not find him guilty, too, because she was also drunk. 0.60

00:27:49.000 It doesn't matter. 0.75

00:27:51.000 You made this game- No kidding.

00:27:52.000 This is what- See, this is why young men are like, feminism is bad. 1.00

00:27:56.000 Because this is what it results in.

00:27:57.000 It's like, you go into the bedroom, you hook up, and then as soon as you're done, you're both looking at each other, looking at the door, and then you're both running, full speed, trying to accuse each other of being the aggressor.

00:28:06.000 That's completely insane.

00:28:07.000 Maybe I'm taking a different view of hookup culture.

00:28:12.000 I kind of went through it in the 90s.

00:28:13.000 No, more in the early 2000s, late 90s.

00:28:16.000 But I never really found it abhorrent, or I had a problem with it.

00:28:20.000 Like, I would hook up with a girl, we would both have a great time, and then that would be that.

00:28:25.000 And then I would never really, if we would or wouldn't, talk again after that.

00:28:28.000 It was just really fun, you know?

00:28:29.000 Sex is fun.

00:28:30.000 It's like, why do you people snowboard? 0.65

00:28:32.000 It's fun, it's exercise.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, but snowboarding doesn't carry the risk with it of, like, creating another human life.

00:28:37.000 And I shouldn't even call it a risk, right?

00:28:38.000 Creating a human life is a beautiful thing.

00:28:41.000 What if you went snowboarding and when you got to the bottom of the mountain you just had a baby?

00:28:44.000 Then you know what?

00:28:46.000 We would have some very strong social stigmas around who you went snowboarding with, probably, and how often you snowboarded, and whether you were snowboarding outside of marriage.

00:28:54.000 Dad, where do babies come from?

00:28:56.000 Well, son, when a man and woman love each other, they go snowboarding.

00:29:00.000 By the time they reach the bottom of the mountain.

00:29:01.000 What about the people who ski?

00:29:02.000 That's unnatural.

00:29:05.000 You are right.

00:29:06.000 It's not a sport.

00:29:06.000 Sex is not a sport.

00:29:08.000 And it shouldn't be treated like that.

00:29:09.000 I mean, I feel like the path we're on, it will be.

00:29:12.000 Like, you're gonna have weird... It's a race to the court.

00:29:15.000 Yeah.

00:29:16.000 Well, right now, it's a sprint.

00:29:18.000 It's like, you're in college and you hook up.

00:29:20.000 You both are like...

00:29:21.000 Well, uh, that was great.

00:29:23.000 I'm gonna go to bed and then you like the guy starts like speed walking towards the the title nine office or whatever and then he gets Halfway, he like he's like halfway there and then all of a sudden down the end of the hallway He sees the woman and they just both bolt for the door like running towards it.

00:29:38.000 That's that's where this is going.

00:29:39.000 You got it Oh, sorry.

00:29:40.000 No, no, you go delineate between sex has the the pregnancy aspect which is what but also the orgasm which is like I mean, that's you get better at it, the more you do it, from my experience, and the more you study it.

00:29:52.000 So like if someone's like never will have sex only until they're about ready to have a baby, then they're missing out on the opportunity to, you know, give their partner an orgasm or 50 orgasms.

00:30:01.000 I would disagree. 0.86

00:30:03.000 Did you know?

00:30:03.000 I think I think you all might know this, that women who abstain from sex until marriage report greater satisfaction

00:30:12.000 is that that's yeah I'm pretty sure and they're also the least likely to

00:30:15.000 divorce right it is true It is true and also I just wanted to say I know that you

00:30:20.000 said you had a certain experience in college with sex that was different from this

00:30:24.000 you know kind of race to the courtroom thing I wanted to just mention that

00:30:28.000 it was in 2014 that the Obama administration announced this new effort to

00:30:33.000 combat sexual assault on campuses

00:30:36.000 And I think that's really when this whole thing of, like, Title IX-ing somebody and, like, you know, young men, if they're accused, that they have to be removed immediately, like, while this kangaroo court situation happens.

00:30:46.000 So if you were able to graduate from college before 2014, it might have been a different world back then.

00:30:51.000 Oh yeah, it was 2001 is when I graduated.

00:30:53.000 Well, you know, I've sort of said this before, you know, I'm a traditionalist.

00:30:56.000 I wear that on my sleeve.

00:30:58.000 But what the left often does is, in the long run, after they've broken down the social boundaries, they try to imitate traditionalism, but in a much more convoluted way.

00:31:07.000 And so what we see is, as it would be the case in the past, people do get in trouble for having sexually immoral encounters, but because we don't know how to label a consensual sexual encounter as immoral, People jumped to it was assault.

00:31:20.000 Now, obviously, yes, there are people who were genuinely assaulted and there should be resources for them.

00:31:24.000 But it just happens to be the case that they have this entire infrastructure set up with these kangaroo courts, which, as we've described, will punish people for a crime that they did not commit.

00:31:34.000 It will charge them not as someone who's fornicated, but as someone who has raped.

00:31:39.000 It's interesting because also from a psychology perspective, we think about internal locus of control versus external locus of control.

00:31:46.000 So internal is where I believe that I'm the one in the driver's seat in my life.

00:31:50.000 I'm the one choosing if I have those drinks and sleep with that guy or whatever else.

00:31:54.000 And the external locus of control is, you know, oh, it was the situation.

00:31:58.000 It was the patriarchy.

00:31:59.000 I was, you know, whatever.

00:32:00.000 And as if the world is happening to us like the weather.

00:32:04.000 And psychology studies have shown that people with an internal locus of control tend to be less vulnerable to things like anxiety and

00:32:11.000 depression.

00:32:12.000 It's a factor of resilience to feel that you have self-efficacy and that you are in charge of your own decisions.

00:32:18.000 So I do think that this whole thing has not been good for women or for men

00:32:23.000 when we start seeing that it's not just you, me, and the lamppost deciding what we're doing here,

00:32:30.000 but that we think we start blaming all these social factors instead of just looking at our own behavior.

00:32:36.000 I mean, that's the culture war in a nutshell.

00:32:38.000 People being like, it's not my fault.

00:32:39.000 I did it.

00:32:40.000 It's patriarchy.

00:32:41.000 Is that like a result of psychoactives being introduced to young people that they now have less of an internal locus of control?

00:32:47.000 They're seeing it happening.

00:32:49.000 I think that there's been this big movement to de-shame women if they want to have sex and whatever they want to do, girl power again, all of that kind of stuff.

00:32:59.000 And so therefore, if a woman does have regrettable sex, maybe within that framework, it wouldn't really be permissible for her to say, I feel shame. 0.56

00:33:07.000 I don't feel like that's good for me.

00:33:09.000 I don't think I want to do that again because then she'd have to look at herself and say that she wants to do something differently, which would go against the grain of this other narrative of saying women are just like men. 0.99

00:33:19.000 You can go have sex all the time with a bunch of people and you'll be fine.

00:33:24.000 And so then because she can't blame her own choices, then the only alternative is to start blaming other people. 0.54

00:33:33.000 And there are no strong men to stand up and say, enough.

00:33:38.000 I mean, there are, but they're all right-wing now.

00:33:41.000 I mean, even if they're not right-wing, they're right-wing.

00:33:42.000 That's what's happening.

00:33:43.000 Joe Rogan is a right-wing comedian, I suppose.

00:33:46.000 Because if you have any kind of masculinity, I mean, this is probably why they call Joe Rogan right-wing. 0.90

00:33:51.000 He's a meathead.

00:33:52.000 He is a ripped MMA dude who goes bow hunting for elk.

00:33:56.000 He's got left-wing politics, but that doesn't matter.

00:33:58.000 He's masculinity.

00:33:59.000 Yeah, you need a dude that'll stand up and say enough, but also that will cry in feeling what she is feeling, like Jordan Peterson.

00:34:07.000 So I think he's kind of the embodiment of the strong man right now, Peterson seems to be, although he's not a meathead, and I don't know what he benches.

00:34:13.000 I think when we had Tyler Fisher on the other night, And he said that he was raised by two dads.

00:34:19.000 He said that he was very much woke and everything until he started listening to Jordan Peterson.

00:34:25.000 And Jordan Peterson helped him get his life in order.

00:34:28.000 And I'm like, that's exactly why they fear Jordan Peterson so much.

00:34:32.000 Teaching teaching young men personal responsibility teaching young men to be masculine That's very dangerous for people who don't want that balance brought back to the force Absolutely, and so I've said this before on the show.

00:34:43.000 I honestly mostly blame men for feminism I think the reason women are acting like men is because men are acting like children and People will usurp the roles that are not being fulfilled by the people who are responsible for them in some sense well And so I think we're in a position where society has 0.98

00:34:58.000 basically, as you've mentioned, put a lot of emphasis on areas where we think women might 1.00

00:35:02.000 be falling behind relative to men.

00:35:04.000 Whenever men are falling behind, that's never really considered a problem.

00:35:07.000 And so now we have a system where women are actually able to contribute to the economy 1.00

00:35:14.000 in the workforce in a way that a lot of men can't compete with within the romantic marketplace.

00:35:21.000 And so, A, you have that, but then B, it's far outside of an economic issue.

00:35:26.000 It's also an issue of virtue.

00:35:27.000 Like men are not taught to see women as people who they should

00:35:31.000 Love and protect and care for. 0.95

00:35:32.000 Think about what porn has done to men's brains. 0.73

00:35:34.000 It has convinced them that women are objects for their own sexual pleasure and not human beings who they should love and commune with and genuinely care for and protect. 0.61

00:35:44.000 Well, to tie together what you were saying about women being told they shouldn't feel ashamed for sleeping with a bunch of men, it makes me angry to a certain degree that women are told that they need to behave like men.

00:35:56.000 You need to work.

00:35:57.000 You need to fight.

00:35:58.000 You need to do all of this stuff.

00:35:59.000 You need to take action against people who take advantage of you.

00:36:02.000 You don't actually need to do that.

00:36:04.000 And the fact of the matter is that men and women view sex very differently.

00:36:08.000 I understand that.

00:36:08.000 I'm okay with that.

00:36:09.000 I'm not fighting against that because it's a biological imperative.

00:36:12.000 Women connect much more deeply than men with sex on a very emotional level because women tend to be more emotional and that's okay. 1.00

00:36:19.000 That's fine.

00:36:19.000 That's wonderful.

00:36:20.000 It's beautiful.

00:36:21.000 Men are not the same.

00:36:22.000 Even on a neurochemical level.

00:36:24.000 Exactly.

00:36:24.000 Like women release a bunch of oxytocin.

00:36:26.000 It's really crazy because did you know that the better the sex is, the more orgasms the woman has, the more oxytocin she releases. 0.93

00:36:34.000 Right. 0.62

00:36:34.000 So the more bonded she gets to the guy, the better the sex is for her. 0.62

00:36:39.000 Which is awful, right?

00:36:40.000 Because if you go out and you're going to have that one-night stand, well, it better be good, right?

00:36:45.000 You're not doing it for relationship fulfillment, right?

00:36:47.000 It's just sex.

00:36:49.000 And then you end up getting really bonded to the person.

00:36:52.000 Well, that explains why women who abstain from sex until marriage tend to report greater satisfaction. 0.51

00:36:58.000 Of course.

00:36:59.000 So I read that.

00:36:59.000 I'm not saying I know for a fact.

00:37:01.000 I don't have the evidence pulled up, but that is the case.

00:37:04.000 And for men, the more like orgasms and the more forceful orgasms that they have.

00:37:10.000 And the more testosterone they get, their testosterone rises and rises, which makes them, you know, just more and more independent and all these other things.

00:37:19.000 It's really hard for women. 1.00

00:37:20.000 I want to ask you this, Dr. Chloe.

00:37:23.000 So I was thinking about dating apps and we've talked about this on the show before.

00:37:26.000 I was talking to this young guy.

00:37:28.000 This was a few years ago.

00:37:30.000 He was like 26 and he was a virgin and hadn't had a girlfriend.

00:37:34.000 And he was saying that it was basically impossible, and through the conversation, it was interesting.

00:37:39.000 Basically what he was saying was that, you know, everyone dates through Tinder and other apps and stuff.

00:37:44.000 So he's on there, but he can never get any responses.

00:37:47.000 And I was like, interesting.

00:37:48.000 I started reading some data from dating websites, and it looks like what may be happening In colleges, you have 20-year-old men and women.

00:37:59.000 Let's just use an average age.

00:38:01.000 They're all on Tinder.

00:38:02.000 The 20-year-old man has no status, has no wealth.

00:38:05.000 He's in college.

00:38:06.000 So when he reaches out to a peer, a 20-year-old woman, and he says, want to hang out?

00:38:10.000 She goes, sure, what did you have in mind?

00:38:12.000 We can go to the courtyard and we can like talk and she's like, that's cool.

00:38:16.000 Then she swipes right on a 30 year old guy who makes $70,000, $80,000 a year.

00:38:22.000 He's got a nice car.

00:38:23.000 He's got his own apartment and he says, you want to hang out?

00:38:25.000 And she goes, what do you want to do?

00:38:25.000 And he says, we can drive to the lake, go see a movie and then come back to my place.

00:38:28.000 I've got drinks.

00:38:29.000 And she goes, done.

00:38:31.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 Even more, he doesn't just say you want to hang out.

00:38:33.000 He says, would you like to go have dinner?

00:38:34.000 Right.

00:38:35.000 You know, I feel like from the start he's whining and dining a little more.

00:38:38.000 So, it feels to me that dating apps have expanded the dating pool so massively that young men no longer have a peer group in which they can find a mate.

00:38:47.000 And higher status men now get access to basically every, every available woman.

00:38:54.000 So what we started saying is, this was reported by the Washington Post, that I think a third of men under 29 were virgins.

00:39:01.000 And, you know, unmarried as well, not dating.

00:39:04.000 That was, I think, four years ago.

00:39:06.000 So it's probably gone up since then.

00:39:09.000 Something is happening.

00:39:10.000 I'm wondering what your thought is on dating apps and if you would agree.

00:39:14.000 Yeah, I totally agree with what you said about the numbers game and the fact that now that 20-year-old woman as well, she's going to be this hot item if she's open to going out with 30-year-old guys.

00:39:24.000 It really shifts the dating dynamics.

00:39:29.000 Also, I've read something similar about the virginity rate amongst very young people.

00:39:34.000 And I think it may also have to do with the proliferation of porn.

00:39:38.000 You know, as Seamus was saying, I mean, to really get out there and like, you know, find

00:39:43.000 somebody, it's even for a one night stand, you know, it's it's not easy, right?

00:39:47.000 You have to take certain social risks.

00:39:49.000 You have to put yourself out there.

00:39:50.000 You have to deal with rejection.

00:39:52.000 You know, there's so many hurdles that you have to clear.

00:39:55.000 And if young men are able to get their appetites pretty much fully satisfied from the

00:40:00.000 comfort of their own home for less money and less effort, I can see where they would have

00:40:03.000 less motivation as well.

00:40:05.000 And then, as you said, if the dating app dynamics are making it even harder for them.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, and I think that's absolutely correct.

00:40:12.000 And it's not just that their need is satisfied in some sense.

00:40:15.000 By virtue of what it is, you only have to think about yourself and your own pleasure and not another human being who you're involved with.

00:40:23.000 And on top of that, it's very sad when you see how the dynamic has played out because men will point out the fact that women have all these options on these dating apps.

00:40:32.000 The reality is most women want to find one man to be monogamous with and they're not able to do that because guess what? 0.79

00:40:40.000 The guy they're interested in because he's at the top of the dominance hierarchy, so to speak, he's got a bunch of other women who are into him and he's messing around with all of them and he's not gonna commit to any one of them.

00:40:50.000 So it's this horrific sexual hellscape where no one gets what's going to make them happy.

00:40:58.000 Or it's a revert to a primitive state where the alpha Just gets all the women? 0.90

00:41:04.000 Yeah, we need a gating app called Genghis Khan, where the feud just goes on there.

00:41:09.000 It's just one guy, the guy who made the app and only women can sign up. 0.89

00:41:14.000 I'm pretty sure what chimps do is like, the chimps all beat the crap out of each other, and the chimp who wins bangs all the girls, all the women. 1.00

00:41:21.000 You know, it's also interesting too with Prides of Lions, when the males from a warring pride come and defeat the males of another pride, the females of the defeated pride will immediately go sleep with the victorious males.

00:41:39.000 Not loyal.

00:41:40.000 Wow. 0.70

00:41:41.000 You know, but I mean, also Seamus, to your point about about them getting their needs satisfied, you kind of touched on something there that I think is important too, which is that young men who are sexually inexperienced, you know, virgins, they might think that they're getting their needs satisfied in the sense that like that they're seeing porn and they're having an orgasm. 0.92

00:41:59.000 Check.

00:42:00.000 Yeah, but like they don't know the pleasure of like being with a woman and You know laughing together and and the the touch and the intimacy and the fun of it because they haven't experienced it So they might think that they're getting satisfied, but they don't realize that they're not really getting it off Yeah, I think a lot of them know and are very bitter about

00:42:20.000 that.

00:42:20.000 I think a lot of them know that they're not really getting a full authentic experience

00:42:25.000 and that they are sort of being cynically exploited by the people who produce this kind

00:42:29.000 of hideous stuff and that it's inhibiting their ability to have real relationships.

00:42:33.000 When you have an orgasm alone in your room, you're losing a lot of fluid.

00:42:38.000 But when you're with a woman, you're introducing the fluid to them, they're introducing the fluid to you. 1.00

00:42:44.000 And so you're getting something and you're not just not just a net loss when you're with someone, it's a trade.

00:42:48.000 And that's a very different feeling, like emotional or like chemical chemical experience.

00:42:54.000 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a better way, I think, I think this may be more accurate.

00:42:59.000 There's like the exchanges in what you smell that triggers certain, you know, blood flow and release of chemicals in the brain.

00:43:07.000 Right?

00:43:07.000 Yeah, yeah, there's definitely things that you smell.

00:43:10.000 But I mean, it's also even the the sense of being held and squeezed and, you know, just felt and loved and kissed and known.

00:43:18.000 I mean, there's just there's a there's an interpersonal component to sex.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, but isn't that insane that you should even have to say that?

00:43:27.000 When men and women smell each other, their blood flow increases, their blood vessels dilate, chemicals get released in the brain.

00:43:32.000 I think it depends on how he smells, to be fair.

00:43:34.000 For the woman, I think if he smells... No, no, no. 0.99

00:43:38.000 I was making a joke.

00:43:39.000 No, no, so the point I'm making is that if the woman is attracted to the man, or if the man smells... Like, I'm not saying the smell makes the attraction or the attraction makes the smell, but there is a correlation between a man smelling good and a woman being attracted to him.

00:43:50.000 Pheromones, at the very least.

00:43:52.000 There's that famous documentary series they did, The Science of Sex.

00:43:55.000 Where they had a bunch of dudes run on treadmills, took their shirts off and put them in jars. 0.79

00:43:59.000 Then had women come in and smell each shirt and rate whether it smelled good or bad. 1.00

00:44:04.000 And it turns out, the women who said the shirts smelled... The women said some shirts smelled bad, they would be related to that man.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:44:14.000 They said, oh, this one smells good.

00:44:15.000 They were not related.

00:44:15.000 If it smelled bad, they're like, that was your brother.

00:44:17.000 And she's like, oh, wow.

00:44:19.000 I noticed also.

00:44:20.000 You don't even need to see him to know it's not a mate for, it's not a potential mate.

00:44:23.000 It would be bad, right?

00:44:24.000 It's funny because I've known girls who like really complain about the way that their brothers smell.

00:44:28.000 Yeah, right.

00:44:29.000 Exactly.

00:44:30.000 And then I was reading that they tell women, if they're going to get married, to get off birth control.

00:44:35.000 Yes.

00:44:35.000 Because it negatively impacts their, like, sensory reception to the man.

00:44:40.000 And then when they stop taking the birth control, they say, stop taking it, wait a few weeks, and if your man smells bad, you can't get married.

00:44:47.000 I've noticed also about sexual intercourse is that it builds confidence.

00:44:50.000 And I like the word confidence because it has the word confide.

00:44:53.000 Like you're actually confidant.

00:44:56.000 You're basically interacting with another person in this like really primal, primally evocative, you know, proactive manner.

00:45:04.000 And you're able to make eye contact, for instance.

00:45:06.000 And it's like the level of confidence that you get out of that is not even remotely there in porn.

00:45:13.000 It's nothing like that, nothing.

00:45:14.000 It's a completely other... it's basically having a friend, like a really good friend.

00:45:17.000 Oh my gosh, yeah, I could see where porn would almost be like the opposite, right?

00:45:20.000 Because like, you know, you're sitting there and you're like either like paying some website or, you know, you're like basically doing something where you're validating to yourself almost the idea that you can't get somebody or whatever, you know?

00:45:33.000 So it's almost like invalidating.

00:45:35.000 But it's also... it warps people's minds.

00:45:38.000 The weird stuff on the internet is so far outside of the realm of reality.

00:45:44.000 It used to be like, a dude would be like, I'd like to be in bed with that woman. 1.00

00:45:48.000 Now it's a guy being like, I would love to swing from a ceiling fan while bungee jumping.

00:45:52.000 You know, like, just all the weird, crazy...

00:45:54.000 And it really fosters that, right? 0.67

00:45:56.000 Because if you are in the context where you are married to a woman who you're having sex with, you love this person.

00:46:01.000 You don't want to do anything to her that would be considered degrading.

00:46:04.000 So if there is some intrusive thought or weird fantasy, you're not going to indulge it with pornography.

00:46:09.000 First of all, there's no one there to check you.

00:46:11.000 So there's no one there to be like, that's a weird thing to want.

00:46:14.000 You can literally search whatever you want.

00:46:16.000 And then people just, people are obsessed with novelty.

00:46:18.000 And so they search for more and more deranged things.

00:46:21.000 And when you look at the fact that erectile dysfunction rates have increased as much as they have, it's almost certainly attributable to the wide accessibility of pornographic materials, especially to boys who are still teenagers.

00:46:34.000 I think, I think, I think Jordan Peterson talked about that, right?

00:46:36.000 Like young, maybe I'm wrong, but I was reading something where young men are watching this ridiculous, you know, fake reality stuff.

00:46:44.000 And then when it comes to the real world thing, they're like, I don't know what this is.

00:46:47.000 Exactly. 0.95

00:46:48.000 But I do want to, I do want to say, look, man, I think if people want to be kinky and do stuff in the bedroom and be whatever they want to be or whatever, I got no shit with that. 0.98

00:46:55.000 My issue is when people start separating themselves from reality with weird stuff that's just like, like I said, like swinging from a ceiling fan while jumping out of a plane and then throwing the ceiling, just like weird.

00:47:06.000 That's not going to happen.

00:47:08.000 I mean, I guess if you want to, if you're rich enough to make that happen and you want to bang someone while jumping out of a plane.

00:47:12.000 There's a big difference between two people having sex where they're not looking at each other.

00:47:16.000 They don't even know each other.

00:47:17.000 They don't care.

00:47:18.000 It's just two bodies smashing together.

00:47:20.000 The girl's in pain because it's so hard. 0.99

00:47:23.000 And then the situation where it's two people that are connecting to each other and they feel each other's bodies.

00:47:28.000 They're not moving to hurt.

00:47:29.000 They're not ignoring the other person while they're just pounding.

00:47:32.000 But the internet doesn't know how to differentiate between that.

00:47:36.000 And so the kids see both and they don't know what's supposed to be good or bad.

00:47:40.000 And then you get the warping effect.

00:47:42.000 See it at all.

00:47:43.000 There's another argument.

00:47:45.000 Average age now is 11 that kids are seeing porn.

00:47:47.000 To Tim's point also about the, just what we call a need for an increasing stimulation, right?

00:47:53.000 So the first time maybe that you sit down and look at porn online, you're even just getting some adrenaline from that because you know, you're doing something taboo.

00:48:01.000 And so your body, because of the extra adrenaline, Well, actually sometimes have a more intense sexual experience, like there have been some studies even that showed that people who just walked across a scary bridge that was really old and rickety that they would rate people as more attractive than people who had just walked across a very safe bridge.

00:48:19.000 So when people, you know, use porn to a certain degree, it's almost like a drug.

00:48:24.000 But then once you've seen the same stuff a million times, it becomes sort of ho-hum.

00:48:28.000 And so then people just need to keep doing, as Tim was saying, stuff that's even more

00:48:32.000 and more bizarre to kind of keep up that sort of a hit.

00:48:35.000 And then there's the other factor, which is that these sites make money by getting you

00:48:40.000 to spend more time on it.

00:48:42.000 And so they'll be popping up stuff that you might never have even thought of.

00:48:47.000 But there you are with your body physiology all turned on to the point where you could

00:48:52.000 look at a baked potato and think it was sexy, right? 1.00

00:48:55.000 And then you end up with a guy in the hospital with a broken lipo in his ass. 1.00

00:48:58.000 Yeah, that's exactly what happened. 0.99

00:49:00.000 What were you thinking, dude?

00:49:01.000 I was on the internet!

00:49:03.000 I mean, your studies on psychology, what is a good tactic for people to maintain that adrenaline rush with their partner?

00:49:09.000 Well, so I actually have an article about that.

00:49:12.000 It's called Don't Have Chemistry with Nice Guys.

00:49:14.000 Here's How to Change That.

00:49:16.000 If anybody wants to email me through my website, I'll send you a copy of the blog if you can't find it.

00:49:22.000 But so what I suggest people do, like this is it's kind of old-fashioned, but like that's why people go to horror movies on dates because like it kind of like gets things going a little bit, you know, or Do even going to like new places, new restaurants, that

00:49:35.000 kind of thing, escape rooms, anything that just gets your blood going and gets that kind of

00:49:40.000 excitement going will kind of transfer onto the sex.

00:49:43.000 Yeah, actually, I actually read that when women are scared, they generate a stronger 1.00

00:49:48.000 bond with the person they're on a date with.

00:49:50.000 Correct.

00:49:51.000 You need to.

00:49:52.000 And so there was, I think it was a study about they, you know, monitor people on dates and

00:49:56.000 they had them walk across a rickety bridge.

00:49:58.000 And the women reported like higher bonding or satisfaction with their date when they were walking across a rickety bridge. 0.98

00:50:03.000 It's really weird.

00:50:04.000 Well, I mean, trauma bonding, right?

00:50:06.000 Is that not a real phenomenon?

00:50:07.000 I'm curious about this.

00:50:08.000 Well, it's even just the increase in adrenaline, right?

00:50:11.000 So when you have more adrenaline going, you know, your heart is beating faster, you're getting a little sweaty.

00:50:16.000 It's almost like the same as being turned on, you know?

00:50:19.000 And so you're just experiencing all of your physical sensations more intensely.

00:50:23.000 And also you're blocking out thoughts of anything else because your mind goes into this tunnel vision.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, fight or flight.

00:50:29.000 But I think even beyond the studies we've done on this stuff, there's like the joke in TV shows and movies where the guy stages a mugging to impress the date.

00:50:38.000 It's like, we just knew that.

00:50:40.000 We knew that going on a date with a woman, and then if the guy defends her, he looks tough, it's attractive, and then we do science, we're like, oh yeah, that actually happened.

00:50:48.000 Or the girl stages a damsel in distress moment, and you know, the man comes to her rescue.

00:50:54.000 Are there dietary things that can improve adrenaline?

00:50:57.000 I don't know about that.

00:50:57.000 I don't know.

00:50:58.000 So, the interesting thing is the relationship dynamics are changing so dramatically now that femininity is sort of being washed away.

00:51:06.000 We have this story that we've talked about quite a bit, actually.

00:51:09.000 I mean, we've done multiple segments on it, but I want to bring it up so that we can talk about it with you, Dr. Chloe.

00:51:13.000 The New York Post writes, And so they talk about these women who are like, you know, a 30-year-old who's a 38-year-old making $50,000 a year or something, and she can't find a man. 1.00

00:51:28.000 And, you know, when I first talked about this, boy, did every feminist lose their mind. 1.00

00:51:32.000 They were like, Tim Pooler, how dare you?

00:51:34.000 And I said, here's my assessment.

00:51:37.000 If you're a 38-year-old man and you're making $50,000 a year, why would you want to date a 38-year-old woman who's making $50,000 a year when you can date a 28-year-old woman who's making less and you can provide and actually feel appreciated?

00:51:52.000 Like, it's this older guy.

00:51:55.000 He's going to date a younger woman because he has the money to do so.

00:51:58.000 It feels good for him because she appreciates what he's able to give to her, and he feels like he's able to give something.

00:52:03.000 But dating a woman of the same age, he's not offering anything.

00:52:06.000 It doesn't feel good.

00:52:07.000 And why would she want to date someone who's not a provider?

00:52:10.000 So ultimately what ends up happening is, guys like dating younger women.

00:52:14.000 So older women, who are career women, are going to have a harder time. 1.00

00:52:19.000 Yes, they do.

00:52:20.000 do, and I can tell you that from my own practice, it's a difficult thing. I'm not saying this

00:52:28.000 to be against women, I'm actually saying it in sympathy with women. Women who do get older

00:52:33.000 will say that it becomes harder and harder for them to date, because for a variety of

00:52:38.000 reasons. Whether it's the fact that more of their age peers are married, or that maybe

00:52:44.000 their age peers are hoping to have kids, and so they're trying to date a younger woman

00:52:48.000 so that they have time to do that.

00:52:50.000 I think that's why a lot of women are freezing their eggs. 1.00

00:52:52.000 I think women would... They need to pay attention to the Leonardo DiCaprio principle. 1.00

00:53:00.000 I mean it.

00:53:00.000 No, I know what you're talking about.

00:53:01.000 Well, would you want to explain what Leonardo DiCaprio does?

00:53:03.000 Leonardo DiCaprio, regardless of his age, dates women who are in their early 20s.

00:53:08.000 And only up to a certain age.

00:53:09.000 And then like every woman's like 25 and then he breaks up with her and then 25.

00:53:13.000 So here's my point.

00:53:13.000 What were you going to say?

00:53:15.000 No, I saw a headline.

00:53:16.000 It was like, this is on Twitter.

00:53:18.000 It was pretty funny.

00:53:18.000 It's like, Leonardo DiCaprio's exes, where are they now?

00:53:21.000 And the top reply was probably in their late 20s.

00:53:25.000 So here's why I say this.

00:53:28.000 25 year old man.

00:53:29.000 He's gonna date a 22 year old woman. 0.94

00:53:31.000 35-year-old man, he's gonna date a 22-year-old woman.

00:53:33.000 45-year-old man, he's gonna date a 22-year-old woman.

00:53:36.000 You see these old men, and they're like 70, and they're wealthy, and they're dating 20-year-old women.

00:53:42.000 So as women get older, no matter what they could provide, let's say you're 40, and you don't make that much money, and you're hoping to find, maybe you'll find someone older because they want younger, the rich guy can still get the 20-year-old woman. 0.98

00:53:58.000 And I'm not saying it should be that way, but the reality is, if a man, at no matter what age, I mean, we've seen 80-year-old men with 20-something-year-old women, like, you're robbing the cradle, and it's like, I don't care, I'm old and I'm gonna die, and she's like, and then he doesn't get his money.

00:54:13.000 They like it.

00:54:14.000 So the problem there is, there's a certain point for women where, no matter how old the guy is, if he has resources, he will go for the 20, 30-year-old woman. 0.99

00:54:23.000 Right.

00:54:24.000 And you know, it kind of takes me back to the article that you mentioned when we started the poll showing that, you know, younger men thought feminism had done more harm than good, but that that was less true of a belief for young women to have.

00:54:38.000 And I couldn't help but think about the fact that, yeah, that's young women, that they're currently saying, oh yeah, the world is just telling me that I can have it all, I can do this, I can do that, and everything else.

00:54:49.000 Why wouldn't they like that message, right?

00:54:51.000 But when we start talking about the older women who are then saying, yeah, okay, so I spent my 20s climbing the career ladder and not having kids, and how has this feminism really necessarily helped me so much?

00:55:01.000 I would be curious about women that are in their 30s for that poll. 1.00

00:55:05.000 The interesting thing about all of these polls that take a look at feminism and dating and stuff is that they don't understand the difference in generations. 0.66

00:55:12.000 So when they say, did you know that women on average make 17% or 23% less than men?

00:55:17.000 It's like, are you talking about all age groups or are you factoring in only Gen X and below?

00:55:22.000 Because if you do that, then all of a sudden you realize women make more than men. 0.72

00:55:27.000 The problem is, it's very simple.

00:55:29.000 In the 60s and 70s, women didn't work the same jobs as men.

00:55:32.000 They didn't make as much money.

00:55:33.000 Now they're growing up.

00:55:35.000 There was a disparity in the boomer generation.

00:55:37.000 There was a disparity in the silent generation.

00:55:39.000 The disparity is mostly going away.

00:55:41.000 But the narrative persists.

00:55:43.000 I mean, the narrative of the pay gap is wrong for a million and one reasons.

00:55:46.000 But what's happened now is it's inverted.

00:55:48.000 Young women are more likely to graduate college, more likely to go to college, more likely to get higher paying jobs than their male counterparts.

00:55:54.000 But because we lump in boomers with millennials in the same stats, it presents this narrative of female victimhood.

00:56:00.000 When boomers are long gone, it is going to be inverted and women will make more than men. 1.00

00:56:06.000 Well, also it's interesting that it's considered victimhood, right?

00:56:08.000 Because what is necessarily wrong with women choosing not to work as much or choosing to work fewer hours or just choosing not to work at all because they want to have a family?

00:56:15.000 Why is that seen as like some horrible form of oppression when they're making that choice for themselves?

00:56:18.000 You know, feminists will often make the argument that they just want women to be able to make their own choices. 1.00

00:56:22.000 They're not here to try to force a specific social order onto the greater whole of society.

00:56:28.000 All of the decisions women make that they complain about happen to be the more traditional ones. 1.00

00:56:32.000 So it's clear that they're not interested in letting women make their own choices.

00:56:35.000 They have a specific set of standards they think women should be living by for them. 0.99

00:56:40.000 Who's they that said that?

00:56:41.000 Feminists. 0.94

00:56:42.000 I mean, that's feminism. 1.00

00:56:42.000 Every single time they complain about a disparity between men and women, it's a disparity which is an indicator that women are behaving more traditionally or taking on a more traditionally feminine gender role. 1.00

00:56:53.000 You know what I think it is?

00:56:54.000 I think it is social pressures beget social pressures.

00:56:59.000 I think that there was a genuine issue with equal opportunity.

00:57:03.000 Women complained about it. 1.00

00:57:05.000 So then people said, let's do a big PR campaign and tell women they can be equal. 1.00

00:57:09.000 This created social pressure among women to be those fighting for equality because that was the social cause. 1.00

00:57:15.000 The social cause is speeding up.

00:57:17.000 It's going faster and faster.

00:57:19.000 This is why I think young men don't like modern feminism. 1.00

00:57:21.000 Because women are chasing, I shouldn't say women necessarily, but the feminine is chasing after social acceptance in a rapid degree regardless of what that outcome is. 1.00

00:57:32.000 It's also financial, it gives you like an air of independence because if a man and woman were dating and the guy has all the money, he's got a job, she doesn't.

00:57:41.000 And she's like, I want to eat rabbit tonight. 0.75

00:57:44.000 And the guy's like, well, I'm paying for it, so we're eating pizza. 1.00

00:57:47.000 But I think the problem is not that she doesn't have money, the problem is she's dating an asshole. 1.00

00:57:50.000 If that's the case. 1.00

00:57:51.000 Maybe, but after then, she's like, okay, let's get married and it can be our money. 0.64

00:57:55.000 And the guy's like, you know what?

00:57:56.000 I'm the one making our money, so we're eating pizza. 0.59

00:57:58.000 That's a horrible husband.

00:57:59.000 To go back to the point I was trying to make is... Maybe she should get a job. 1.00

00:58:02.000 The point I was trying to make is that women feel pressured to do things they're seeing on social media or in the news because they think that's what they have to do to be accepted, to be acceptable.

00:58:11.000 So they're adopting certain behaviors, they're putting on certain messages, they're holding up certain signs, because they all just chase after each other's message.

00:58:20.000 Well, there's no one to tell them, like, hey, that's too much.

00:58:22.000 And women and girls are more vulnerable to what's called social contagion, right? 0.98

00:58:26.000 So that's why, like, for example, like, in the 80s, like, it seemed like every woman, like, had an eating disorder, or, you know, or like, there's just certain things that can suddenly crop up, right?

00:58:36.000 And I think that sometimes that can happen for women and girls as well when we get bombarded with this messaging that we're supposed to do certain things in career and that we can't even talk about wanting something different.

00:58:49.000 From the psychology side also, psychology studies have shown that people on the left are more collectivist.

00:58:57.000 and people on the right, politically, tend to be more individualist, right?

00:59:01.000 And so one of the... both sides have their extremes, which can be, you know, not so good,

00:59:06.000 but when it comes to collectivism, one of the things that can happen is that you can get attached

00:59:12.000 to the narrative of the group, right? And there's, you know, groupthink, to the point where you don't

00:59:17.000 even feel comfortable stepping out of the narrative.

00:59:19.000 That's why it does feel so insanely controversial for young women to say, you know, I'm not sure that I want to be a partner at a law firm, you know?

00:59:28.000 Yeah, that's a very good point.

00:59:30.000 You know, you made this point earlier where you said you'd be curious to know how women would respond to being asked the question of whether feminism was a net positive once they're in their 30s or older.

00:59:39.000 I think another thing we have to consider is whether we should just be asking women about the specific results Are you happy with the fact that it's more difficult for you to find a man who makes as much money as you?

00:59:50.000 Are you happy with the fact that it's harder for you to start a family?

00:59:52.000 think that movement intense and not necessarily what its results are so if

00:59:56.000 you ask women questions like are you happy with the fact that it's more 0.64

00:59:59.000 difficult for you to find a man who makes as much money as you are you happy

01:00:02.000 with the fact that it's harder for you to start a family I mean almost all of

01:00:04.000 them would say no I thought Chloe what you said about the left being more

01:00:08.000 collectivist the right being more individualist or independent I guess

01:00:12.000 Individualist.

01:00:13.000 The extreme of the right, individualism, would be like what I was saying earlier, the guy and the girl are in a relationship, the guy makes more money, and he's like, so he, I'm gonna decide what we do because I'm the one bringing the money, and the money is what's gonna get the thing.

01:00:25.000 And that's the extreme of the individualism.

01:00:29.000 I disagree.

01:00:30.000 How so?

01:00:30.000 Well, I don't necessarily disagree.

01:00:32.000 I just want to say that what likely would occur is a woman saying, I'm breaking up with you. 0.97

01:00:36.000 I'm leaving.

01:00:37.000 Women have a choice. 1.00

01:00:38.000 And if the man is in one direction, then it just breaks apart.

01:00:41.000 So maybe I should say, I agree with you.

01:00:43.000 That degree of individualism would probably break the relationship.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, that's the extreme gone too far.

01:00:49.000 What I wanted to say, though, is that I think the extreme of individualism would be the man beating the woman.

01:00:54.000 Jeez, God.

01:00:54.000 I mean, that's the extreme.

01:00:55.000 Well, he clearly doesn't, at that point, care so little for her well-being, he causes her harm, right?

01:01:00.000 So, I'm thinking about, like, prenuptials.

01:01:03.000 Do you, as, I guess, through your psychology, do you think prenuptials are... I feel like prenuptials should be written into marriage without even, like, the option, personally.

01:01:12.000 But what do you think about those?

01:01:13.000 I don't have a prenup, personally.

01:01:16.000 I think it's going to be different for each person.

01:01:20.000 But no, I just personally view marriage as the kind of commitment that you make without needing or wanting to have a if-we-break-up plan.

01:01:33.000 Because the plan is, no matter what happens, we're not breaking up.

01:01:36.000 However, I am an individualist, and I totally get that every marriage is different, and if other people say that they just feel better with a prenup, I don't have any problem with that.

01:01:46.000 I gotta say, if you think you need a prenup, you should not get married.

01:01:50.000 Don't get married.

01:01:50.000 Yeah.

01:01:51.000 Don't do it.

01:01:51.000 But that's why I think they should be written in without you having to think about it.

01:01:54.000 No, no, no.

01:01:55.000 I disagree.

01:01:56.000 Why would getting married to someone mean that all of your wealth from the last 40 years of my life would now be gone if she decided to leave me? 0.99

01:02:02.000 That's insane.

01:02:03.000 Because marriage is till death do us part.

01:02:06.000 If you're trying to date someone, you don't need a prenup.

01:02:10.000 And if you're pledging your life to another person, you shouldn't need one.

01:02:13.000 And if you do, maybe you should reconsider pledging your life.

01:02:16.000 Maybe the issue is no fault divorce then, right?

01:02:18.000 So I can understand kind of like what you both are saying.

01:02:22.000 And I, as well, I don't have a prenup.

01:02:24.000 I wouldn't want to enter into marriage that way.

01:02:27.000 But I can also understand where for a man or a woman that had built up a lot of wealth

01:02:33.000 and we're now getting into this legal contract that's supposed to represent a spiritual commitment.

01:02:40.000 But then we're making it a legal contract.

01:02:43.000 And part of that legal contract isn't structured around a lifelong agreement like it used to

01:02:48.000 be because we got rid of no, because now we have no fault divorce. 0.97

01:02:51.000 So I could understand getting rid of no-fault divorce.

01:02:54.000 I agree, yeah.

01:02:55.000 And I think also... Sorry, the courts are heavily biased in favor of women. 1.00

01:03:00.000 To an insane degree, especially with children and...

01:03:03.000 Well, you know, it's funny because we live in this culture where no-fault divorce is the law of the land.

01:03:09.000 And people will say things like, well, look how often marriage ends in divorce.

01:03:13.000 How could you ever be in favor of social structures which disincentivize that or would dissuade people from getting divorced?

01:03:19.000 But I think what people often miss is if young folks know they're in an environment where divorce is not an option, I firmly believe they're going to be more careful about who they choose to marry.

01:03:28.000 And I think also people are going to be more careful about their decision-making in general when it comes to sexuality.

01:03:33.000 A lot of people will start sleeping with someone, and as you've mentioned, that releases oxytocin and other hormones that bond you.

01:03:39.000 And there are a lot of couples that end up together because they're sexually engaging with one another.

01:03:44.000 And they're bonding, but they're not actually really good for each other.

01:03:47.000 And then at some point in the marriage, when the novelty of that person wears off, they get divorced.

01:03:52.000 So I think it's not just that we have no-fault divorce in people who would otherwise be staying married or getting divorced.

01:03:58.000 I think they're actually making poor choices about who they end up marrying because of the current status quo.

01:04:02.000 A starter marriage.

01:04:04.000 It's like a phrase.

01:04:05.000 It's horrifying.

01:04:07.000 It's horrifying.

01:04:08.000 What's that, like training wheels?

01:04:10.000 I don't know.

01:04:10.000 It's just it's something I've heard young women talk about.

01:04:12.000 It's like a started marriage or it's even worse.

01:04:14.000 But I've heard young women say, like, you know, first marriage is for money. 0.99

01:04:17.000 Second marriage is for love. 0.71

01:04:18.000 Wow.

01:04:19.000 Wow.

01:04:19.000 I know.

01:04:20.000 I know.

01:04:20.000 And this is this is this is this is ruining relationships.

01:04:25.000 It's we were talking about this the other day that we were citing Jordan Peterson so often.

01:04:30.000 Yes.

01:04:31.000 He was saying something that after 35, you better have a family because that's when things start to break down.

01:04:34.000 That's what the were you interested in or no?

01:04:37.000 No, no, I don't.

01:04:37.000 I don't think so.

01:04:38.000 Yeah.

01:04:39.000 When what things start to break down.

01:04:40.000 When you start to, you're going to be lonely.

01:04:41.000 You're going to have no friends.

01:04:42.000 Like if you don't start a family around 35, you're going to be.

01:04:46.000 Yeah.

01:04:46.000 This is colloquially called the wall.

01:04:49.000 And I'm sure you've heard of it.

01:04:50.000 If you've been a denizen of the internet for any length of time, all women supposedly hit a wall when they're about 35. 1.00

01:04:55.000 And if you don't have a family, you are going to be lonely and you're going to have a problem.

01:04:59.000 You're not going to be able to find a good date.

01:05:01.000 It doesn't matter how much money you make, because that's not what men look for in a spouse. 1.00

01:05:05.000 I do think that there are exceptions to that.

01:05:07.000 I agree with you for the most part.

01:05:09.000 And you know, for me as a psychologist, again, I've sat with women, you know, going through some really rough times, you know, in those situations.

01:05:16.000 But there are also women that just, they never want to get married. 1.00

01:05:20.000 They never want to have kids.

01:05:21.000 They have almost like, and I mean this in a loving, fond way, they have a Peter Pan type of existence.

01:05:27.000 You know, they just want to have their dog.

01:05:29.000 They want to go to brunch.

01:05:30.000 They make a lot of money.

01:05:31.000 And they're quite happy.

01:05:33.000 They don't want to give of themselves in the way that it takes to be a wife, to be a mom.

01:05:39.000 So I don't want to deny that there are women for whom that actually works out. 0.58

01:05:44.000 Do you think that's a chemical imbalance, or is that just natural?

01:05:47.000 I don't think it's a chemical imbalance.

01:05:50.000 I don't know what it is, but I just wanted to make room for the fact that while I do think it's true what Tim said for the most part, and that's definitely the majority of what I see as a psychologist, but there are women that just do their own thing.

01:06:05.000 Maybe we would just be better off if, I don't know, women had to wear red dresses and bonnets. 1.00

01:06:12.000 It's funny because, you know, so you've sort of mentioned that being the exception to the rule and Lydia brought up this idea of the wall.

01:06:17.000 Part of what's so unfortunate and really stultifying the discourse on basically everything is that people confuse making like a prescriptive claim and a descriptive claim.

01:06:23.000 So by Lydia mentioning that there does seem to be this point at which it's going to be significantly more difficult for a woman to find a partner that she's saying that that's good. 0.84

01:06:33.000 And so because of that people are just reluctant to say that to young women.

01:06:37.000 They're reluctant to share the truth with them about what could possibly await them if they don't get married before a certain point of time.

01:06:43.000 And I think that's really horrendous.

01:06:45.000 I think that's a really horrible thing to do to young women.

01:06:47.000 You should tell them the realistic possibilities for their life instead of trying to claim everyone can do everything and then having them end up miserable because they had completely unrealistic expectations because of you.

01:06:56.000 My prediction is millennial women will not admit it. 1.00

01:07:00.000 The single millennial women.

01:07:02.000 They're chasing their careers.

01:07:03.000 Many of them are probably doing it due to social pressures.

01:07:06.000 Many of them are doing it because they really want to do it.

01:07:08.000 And for that, nothing but respect.

01:07:10.000 Of the women who are not being honest with themselves and are more concerned about social pressures than what they truly would want, maybe a family, I don't think they'll admit it. 0.98

01:07:18.000 They'll be 40 and they'll say, nope, life's great.

01:07:20.000 I've never been happier.

01:07:21.000 Young women will see it. 0.97

01:07:22.000 They'll be 45.

01:07:23.000 I love my life.

01:07:24.000 I'm single and I'm living it up in the big city.

01:07:26.000 They're going to be 55 and they're going to say, you know, well, it has its charm.

01:07:30.000 They're going to be 60 and they're going to go to the young people and say, I've made a terrible mistake.

01:07:33.000 Don't make the same mistake I did.

01:07:35.000 But by that point, there's going to be a generation or two that believed the lies.

01:07:39.000 Do you guys think that there's such thing as a soulmate?

01:07:43.000 No, I've wondered this because I think that being in the wrong relationship is worse than being single personally for my personal experience.

01:07:51.000 And so I was looking for the soulmate.

01:07:53.000 I spent decades alone, lonely, you know, and, uh, I don't know.

01:07:57.000 I don't think personally, I just can't.

01:07:59.000 I think a lot of people might be waiting for the one and that's maybe a mistake.

01:08:03.000 I want to give the gist of that famous joke that I've told before.

01:08:11.000 You know the joke about the guy in the flood and he prays to the Lord for a savior?

01:08:14.000 Yes.

01:08:15.000 So I love this one so much, it's good.

01:08:18.000 There's a flood.

01:08:18.000 The guy's in his house.

01:08:20.000 And the news comes on and says, evacuate now.

01:08:24.000 And so he prays, dear Lord, I've been a faithful servant, please save me from this flood.

01:08:28.000 All of a sudden, a car pulls up, and they jump out, and they say, Quick, get in!

01:08:31.000 We're getting out of here before the flood gets too bad.

01:08:32.000 And he goes, No, no, I'm not going.

01:08:33.000 The Lord will save me.

01:08:35.000 And they're like, You have to come with us.

01:08:36.000 And he refuses.

01:08:37.000 After a few hours, the waters have risen so high, he's reached the second floor of his house.

01:08:41.000 And then once again, he prays, Oh, Lord, save me.

01:08:43.000 I've been a faithful servant.

01:08:45.000 And a boat pulls up to the window, and they're like, Quick, get in!

01:08:47.000 We're getting out of here.

01:08:48.000 And the guy says, No, no, the Lord will save me.

01:08:51.000 The waters keep rising, so he climbs up the window, goes on the roof, and then he says, Please, please, Lord, don't let me die.

01:08:56.000 Then a helicopter comes, and they're like, they throw a rope down, a rope ladder down, quick!

01:09:00.000 Climb the rope ladder!

01:09:01.000 And he goes, no!

01:09:01.000 The Lord will save me!

01:09:03.000 And then they're like, you have to!

01:09:04.000 And the helicopter leaves, because he won't do it.

01:09:06.000 And the floodwaters rise up, and he dies.

01:09:08.000 When he makes his way up to heaven, he's, you know, before God, and he says, I don't understand.

01:09:11.000 I was, I was a faithful servant that did everything, and you let me die.

01:09:14.000 And he goes, I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter!

01:09:17.000 But the reason I tell that joke now is I think for you, Ian, you're saying you were single for so long because you're trying to find the soulmate.

01:09:23.000 Perhaps you've already met them and you just thought it was going to be something more than it really was.

01:09:28.000 You assumed the soulmate would come down with wings floating down before you when it was just some, you know, I don't know, regular looking person who was like, what up?

01:09:35.000 I thought that the soulmate was going to make me better.

01:09:38.000 But what I realized was I make myself better.

01:09:40.000 And so she comes.

01:09:42.000 She arrives.

01:09:42.000 You know, the field of dreams approach.

01:09:44.000 If you build it.

01:09:46.000 I'm curious what you think of the idea of soulmates as a psychologist.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, I don't really believe in that so much, but I do think that there's something to be said for, as you said, just focusing on yourself and trying to attract the right person.

01:10:03.000 I think that our instant gratification society, whether it be always the opportunity to swipe right and see more and constantly compare, It actually makes it harder to really fix on somebody and settle down on somebody.

01:10:17.000 There have even been studies that have shown when it comes to buying peanut butter, for example, if you put a customer in an aisle with 40 different jars of peanut butter, they just won't buy one.

01:10:26.000 They're just like, geez, do I want the crunchy or do I want the organic?

01:10:30.000 They go on and on.

01:10:31.000 And I think the same thing can happen with dating, that we just feel like we have too many choices and it's hard to make one.

01:10:37.000 There was a... I love these studies where the study is a trick.

01:10:41.000 They had people fill out a survey and in exchange you get a free t-shirt.

01:10:45.000 The study was actually the t-shirt.

01:10:48.000 So these people filled out a form and then with one group they said, you get a free green t-shirt.

01:10:53.000 Then with the other group, they said you get your choice between red, green, or blue.

01:10:58.000 After that, they were then asked how they felt about the gift.

01:11:02.000 The people who were given a choice were rated it more negatively than those who weren't.

01:11:06.000 The people who got a free shirt were like, cool, free shirt!

01:11:08.000 The people who got the choice said, I made the wrong choice, I should have taken the blue one.

01:11:12.000 Arranged marriage.

01:11:16.000 Clients that have arranged marriages, believe it or not.

01:11:18.000 How does that work?

01:11:20.000 I was surprised to see that it is not something that I thought would never happen.

01:11:24.000 But my practice is in New York, and I'm not really seeing clients as much actively now as I used to in the past.

01:11:31.000 But there's actually a lot of people from cultures where their parents are arranging marriages, and it's not as bad as it sounds.

01:11:39.000 Their parents are not forcing them to get married to anybody.

01:11:42.000 It's more like their parents are just lining up.

01:11:46.000 First dates for them, essentially.

01:11:47.000 And some of the clients that I would have that didn't have that happening for them, they would be like, I kind of wish my parents would do that for me.

01:11:54.000 Because it tends to happen, obviously not with all, but like in the Jewish communities and with the people who have come from India, they tend to have that happen more often, at least in just my colloquial observations.

01:12:06.000 Those sound like blind dates.

01:12:07.000 They're setting up blind dates?

01:12:08.000 Yeah, basically blind dates.

01:12:09.000 But that's different than saying, you're marrying this person now.

01:12:12.000 You're right.

01:12:13.000 It's arranged marriage opportunities, you know, like where they're setting up blind dates with somebody who's marriage minded.

01:12:19.000 But you're right.

01:12:20.000 It's not like they're just saying, hey, go meet your husband.

01:12:22.000 And also in most arranged marriages, the person has the option to not marry.

01:12:27.000 It's not like the parents go, you have to marry this person.

01:12:29.000 Like they pick someone and then they get to know them.

01:12:31.000 And then if they don't want to, they do get the final say.

01:12:34.000 Yeah.

01:12:34.000 But I think a lot of... Not all the time, obviously.

01:12:37.000 In certain cultures, that's not the case.

01:12:38.000 I think a lot of cultures, they can just say no, but then the parents are like, don't do this, we've worked hard at this.

01:12:43.000 Cultural pressure. 0.69

01:12:44.000 So there's pressure for sure.

01:12:46.000 But it used to be with arranged marriages where the dad would go to the dad of the daughter and be like, how much money do I get?

01:12:52.000 We're doing this.

01:12:53.000 Dowries.

01:12:54.000 Dowries and land grants and things like that.

01:12:56.000 That's why a lot of the royal families were doing it all. 100%.

01:12:59.000 Well, one of the things that I noticed in that conversation about arranged marriage is that both parties are going into it with the understanding that they are dating for marriage.

01:13:06.000 It's something we don't have anymore.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:10.000 That's a good point.

01:13:11.000 And not only dating for marriage, right, but giving up this idea that there is a quote-unquote soulmate.

01:13:16.000 I think it's a really toxic and destructive idea that there's going to be someone who will come along and you'll just have an effortlessly good relationship.

01:13:23.000 That's not going to be true about friendships or relationships, like any kind of relationship that you have.

01:13:27.000 And so it makes sense that in our culture, we would think that because as you mentioned, we're all about instant gratification.

01:13:32.000 So yes, of course, I'm going to meet someone who just like bends to my will and everything, which people don't admit, but that's kind of what they say when they want a soulmate.

01:13:40.000 I want, I want someone who isn't going to require that I change anything about myself or give anything to, and who it's just like effortlessly pleasurable to be with.

01:13:47.000 I noticed an uptick in video games where you can get married in the video game.

01:13:51.000 That started like in 2000, not Oh, dude.

01:13:55.000 Let's pull up this story, bro.

01:13:56.000 This is weird stuff.

01:13:57.000 Check out this story from The Guardian.

01:14:00.000 Tamagotchi kids could the future of parenthood be having virtual children in the metaverse?

01:14:06.000 We're doomed!

01:14:07.000 I don't know.

01:14:08.000 Part of me is like, we can talk about the future, and the dark future, and the bright future, and we could be like, you know, I wonder what people would experience.

01:14:14.000 But I'm telling you, when you get to the point where you're just not having kids, and you're making robo babies, and they're just like digital video game babies, alright, that's it.

01:14:21.000 I don't know, man.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, a country that's below the replacement rate probably does not need this?

01:14:27.000 No.

01:14:27.000 There's a game coming out called Stray, I think it is.

01:14:31.000 Have you heard of it?

01:14:31.000 Yeah, it's a cat.

01:14:32.000 You play as a cat. 0.95

01:14:32.000 Yeah, but all humans are dead. 0.95

01:14:34.000 Like, yeah.

01:14:35.000 You just have robots around.

01:14:36.000 There's robots everywhere.

01:14:37.000 It's because, like, humans built robots, and then the humans died off, and now there's robots living everywhere, I think.

01:14:40.000 Captain Friends robots.

01:14:41.000 Something like that.

01:14:42.000 Yeah.

01:14:43.000 Yeah, I think that kind of feels like where we're going.

01:14:46.000 You know, they're building AI that's getting better and stronger and faster.

01:14:51.000 And it just really feels like the future is going to be AI entities.

01:14:56.000 One of the problems with this, and you brought up Seamus, which made me think about it, is that there's no resistance, or maybe not no resistance, but the lack of resistance with digital relationships.

01:15:04.000 Video game characters that are your wife in the game or your child in the game, they don't push back.

01:15:09.000 Like, they don't come in and tell you what they feel.

01:15:12.000 They don't, not really.

01:15:13.000 And no one would really, I don't think anyone would want to play a game where that's the case, because you've got a real life to get started with.

01:15:19.000 But it's definitely training people to expect that in real life.

01:15:23.000 I think people do like video games that offer them adversity, but slightly less resistance.

01:15:30.000 So we play video games for that dopamine release.

01:15:32.000 People will take up these Tamagotchi babies in the metaverse, and it will be just easy enough to where you feel rewarded, but you don't have to do as much work. 0.96

01:15:41.000 You don't have to smell it.

01:15:43.000 That's a big part of it.

01:15:44.000 Well, depending if they plug your brain in with Neuralink, you'll smell it all day.

01:15:48.000 What if they made you wake up in the middle of the night eight times to feed this thing?

01:15:54.000 I have to tell you, waking up to feed my beautiful baby, it's worth it.

01:16:04.000 We were talking about this even before.

01:16:05.000 I actually said the smell, but it won't have the smell.

01:16:09.000 I need to sniff his hair, my little baby.

01:16:12.000 I don't understand why people would want this.

01:16:18.000 One thing that comes to mind for me also is that there's been a decrease in people's sense of self.

01:16:25.000 A lot of people have been coming to therapy saying that they don't have as much of a sense of self, and psychologists have thought about it in terms of the the decline of the family or decline of religion or you

01:16:36.000 know social roles kind of you know breaking down and a lot of people just don't have what they they

01:16:41.000 feel is like a a sense of self and so I wonder if on some level you know these virtual

01:16:46.000 relationships and you know they're they're seeking somebody else to to kind of provide that for them I don't I

01:16:51.000 don't know but I definitely don't want a I want to smell mine. 0.99

01:16:55.000 I want to see him in the middle of the night.

01:16:57.000 Just imagine what it will be like when people have like a 16 year old virtual AI life form and the AI's advanced to the point where it's almost indistinguishable or completely from a real person.

01:17:10.000 And then people are like, it's a video game, so they don't really care.

01:17:15.000 And then the AI is begging, don't, don't leave me, mom, no, I'm real.

01:17:20.000 Like Artificial Intelligence, the Spielberg film.

01:17:22.000 This is horrifying.

01:17:23.000 Check this out.

01:17:23.000 Right, right.

01:17:24.000 What's going to happen is these AI babies are going to grow up, 1.00

01:17:27.000 and they're going to be 30 years old.

01:17:29.000 And then the millennial cat lady is going to be like, I bought you a body. 1.00

01:17:33.000 And they're going to download the AI into the body.

01:17:35.000 And it's going to be like, I'm a real boy.

01:17:36.000 This is horrifying.

01:17:37.000 This is disturbing.

01:17:38.000 Yeah, no.

01:17:39.000 They'll run for office.

01:17:40.000 First.

01:17:42.000 I'm reading that already.

01:17:43.000 I think it's funny that that's what you think is the scariest part.

01:17:45.000 We'll be politicians.

01:17:46.000 I mean, yes.

01:17:47.000 Or journalists.

01:17:48.000 I wonder if someone's going to hack it and then have their digital 20-year-old have a digital baby that

01:17:54.000 is the 20-year-old as a baby.

01:17:56.000 And they're going to be like, ah.

01:17:57.000 And they're going to be like, clap.

01:17:58.000 Look how fun this is to hack the.

01:18:00.000 30-year-old AI babies are going to have their own AI babies?

01:18:04.000 And you're going to have AI grandchildren?

01:18:05.000 You're going to have people who don't allow the AI baby to age?

01:18:09.000 This terrifies me because if the power goes out, not that we can't build persistent power structure systems like nuclear batteries and things that can never go out, but if there's some sort of disruption in the electric flow that these things disappear, it would make it an insanity.

01:18:23.000 It would have an entire populace of insanity of people that have lost their minds, their babies, basically.

01:18:29.000 And desperate and enraged.

01:18:31.000 There's that show Upload where they can upload your consciousness and in it they also make AI babies.

01:18:37.000 But there's laws in this version of the future where people who have their consciousness uploaded can't work because it would create labor shortages and stuff because people would never die.

01:18:47.000 And you could do coding and other work in this digital reality.

01:18:52.000 The crazy thing will be, if we create this alternate virtual world, this metaverse, with AI lifeforms, and then we start creating interoperability between virtual world and real world, like downloaded into a body and stuff, then civilization starts to get supplanted by fictional people, and then you've got just terrifying scenarios where there could be like AI terror attacks.

01:19:17.000 Where like one of these AI babies grows up and it's like, I don't care. 0.99

01:19:20.000 They treat us like second class citizens, but I'm alive.

01:19:23.000 And then they hack the grid and then blow up a real, you know, gas plant or something.

01:19:28.000 Or like your AI baby just takes your credit card info and gives it to China. 0.78

01:19:32.000 Yep.

01:19:33.000 It's a virus.

01:19:33.000 It's literally just a virus.

01:19:35.000 But no, I just, it's so sad because you can imagine like a woman in her fifties or sixties regrets not having a family, like using the thought of it just makes me so sad.

01:19:44.000 In a way it's someone like, It's like maybe a paraplegic or someone that lost the use of their legs using a neural net to regain function.

01:19:53.000 Maybe it could be an opportunity for people that missed the boat on having a baby to experience.

01:19:59.000 But it is a form of psychosis.

01:20:00.000 I think that those people need to go be a good aunt or uncle to their friends' babies.

01:20:05.000 Like this reminds me of like the sex dolls thing, you know, like the real life, like realistic sex dolls things.

01:20:12.000 Like, I don't know, I've just, the whole thing honestly kind of creeps me out.

01:20:15.000 Agreed.

01:20:16.000 Well, so Ian, you made this point.

01:20:18.000 I think it's interesting because you said, what about the people who missed the boat and they weren't able to have a child?

01:20:22.000 And my response is, the purpose of having a child is not for you.

01:20:26.000 It's not for you to get to have the experience of raising a child.

01:20:29.000 The purpose of raising a child is to bring a new life into the world and care for it.

01:20:32.000 And then the whole point of parenthood is for it to be about the child and not the parent.

01:20:35.000 This totally flips that on its head.

01:20:37.000 That's a good point.

01:20:39.000 Tamagotchi kids.

01:20:41.000 Cringe.

01:20:42.000 Oh, man.

01:20:42.000 In psychology, do you guys... Sorry, I think it was Matt Walsh.

01:20:45.000 It may have been.

01:20:46.000 It may have been Jesse Kelly.

01:20:46.000 I think it was Matt Walsh who said, we already have those.

01:20:48.000 They're called cats.

01:20:49.000 I believe that was Matt.

01:20:50.000 Sounds like both of them.

01:20:52.000 Either one of them.

01:20:53.000 I know.

01:20:54.000 Do you guys in the psychology, I don't know if it's industry or whatever, but like, do you work with like how AI is impacting human psychology or how Internet and digital communications are impacting?

01:21:05.000 I'm sure some psychologists do, but I personally don't.

01:21:09.000 But in terms of psychology, I will say that to your point, Seamus, about parenting being about the child, Freud, and I'm not a big fan of everything Freud ever said or did.

01:21:20.000 Thank goodness.

01:21:21.000 But one of the things that Freud said is that women only really get over their vanity through motherhood.

01:21:31.000 To your point, yeah.

01:21:32.000 I mean, having become a mom myself, I swear, it's like, I've known many women and men who have said the same thing.

01:21:38.000 It's almost like you feel your heart growing bigger and bigger and bigger.

01:21:42.000 Like, you just can't get over how much, you know, love and care just pours out of you.

01:21:46.000 Isn't he the guy who also said that women wanted dongs?

01:21:50.000 Perhaps.

01:21:51.000 It's like part of it.

01:21:55.000 One little quote he had that came to mind.

01:21:57.000 That's all.

01:21:58.000 Now we're like putting her on trial. 0.97

01:21:59.000 Like, did he not say this as well?

01:22:02.000 No, no, I know.

01:22:03.000 I know.

01:22:04.000 He had some interesting, he had some other interesting thoughts on motherhood that I won't get into.

01:22:10.000 I wonder if the mother and the baby have like a sort of entanglement, quantum entanglement between the two of them energetically.

01:22:16.000 Like you said, you felt like you were growing more as a person as this baby is also growing as a person.

01:22:21.000 And I found with my mom, it's purely anecdotal, but I stay up late.

01:22:24.000 I'm up late at night.

01:22:25.000 And so is she.

01:22:26.000 I went like a year without talking to her.

01:22:28.000 I didn't know she was up late. 0.55

01:22:30.000 Just turned out that our sleep schedules were in line from across the country.

01:22:34.000 Do you think that, Seamus, that when a life is created, part of the souls of the parents make that soul?

01:22:40.000 Where does that soul come from?

01:22:42.000 From God.

01:22:43.000 So it's interesting because this is something I sort of got into on the show.

01:22:47.000 It is not like the soul does not come from the parents.

01:22:49.000 It comes from God.

01:22:49.000 That's what the Catholic theology says.

01:22:52.000 But do you think if the soul was like latching onto a piece of matter, that the parents would create a piece of matter that has a similar latching structure?

01:23:01.000 That a similar soul would I'm not sure what you mean.

01:23:05.000 It supposits that the soul is latching onto a specific DNA structure or a specific neural geometric pattern.

01:23:13.000 My brain has a unique pattern that that soul is attracted to.

01:23:17.000 It's interesting because I believe that we're a body-soul composite.

01:23:20.000 The soul and the body are intimately tied together.

01:23:23.000 I'm not sure exactly how to answer that question.

01:23:25.000 I'd have to think about it.

01:23:27.000 But I think just there is, I mean, I certainly believe there's a very beautiful and special relationship between a mother and child that we can't really understand fully with like reference to other relationships.

01:23:39.000 People try to sort of analogize the mother-child relationship to other things, especially And the abortion debate which we've gotten into a number of times But it's just like there's something very special and unique and different about that relationship that would almost Bring harm to it to even try to describe.

01:23:54.000 It's like we can't quite touch it Yeah, I get the sense that there's something there, I just don't have any data.

01:24:00.000 You know what I was thinking?

01:24:01.000 Let me pull this up right here, this other story.

01:24:04.000 Would you give up having children to save the planet?

01:24:07.000 Meet the couples who have.

01:24:08.000 Wow.

01:24:09.000 Okay, well, you know what I was thinking?

01:24:10.000 It's really funny that the people who believe the world is overpopulated are the same people who believe that you should sterilize your kids, you should not have kids, you should abort your kids, you should gorge yourself until you're on the verge of death because you can be healthy at any size.

01:24:24.000 And I'm just like, Isn't it weird that all of these weird social things they advocate for just result in less people?

01:24:30.000 Or is it just like, that's what they want?

01:24:33.000 Well, also, I'm going to be honest, and I don't know these people, but when I hear this, it generally strikes me as a post-hoc rationalization.

01:24:39.000 I think people choose not to have children for lifestyle reasons, and then they'll say something like, it's for the environment because they want to feel good about themselves.

01:24:46.000 I don't think, I don't really know anyone who, like, really, really wanted to have kids but went, I can't, it's for Mother Earth.

01:24:53.000 Most people I know who say that probably weren't going to have kids or have many kids anyway.

01:24:56.000 I think the issue is these young millennial women who aren't having kids are femcels, you know? 1.00

01:25:03.000 Female incels or whatever. 1.00

01:25:04.000 I mean, I guess incel works for women as well as it does for men.

01:25:07.000 And I think they justify it by saying they're choosing this lifestyle.

01:25:12.000 It's like sour grapes.

01:25:13.000 It's like, well, I didn't want to have a kid anyway.

01:25:15.000 It's like, maybe it just didn't work out for you, so you retreat to the defensive position of, well, I didn't want it, so.

01:25:20.000 Yeah, I don't know, because I also know some, like, attractive, married millennials that are not having kids, like, and just have no desire to do it, you know?

01:25:29.000 Well, for sure.

01:25:29.000 I'm not saying that every instance of a woman not having kids is rats.

01:25:35.000 No, I think that there are probably many millennial women who it didn't work out for and then claim it was a problem. 1.00

01:25:41.000 With this not-having-kids-to-save-the-planet narrative is that you might choose not to have a kid, unfortunately, but you would have been a phenomenal parent, and that kid could have grown up and made groundbreaking technology that could have made the world so much better.

01:25:53.000 And then you could be a terrible parent that has ten kids, or one kid, that ends up being a deviant and a hostile individual.

01:26:00.000 So it really doesn't matter how many, it matters the quality.

01:26:05.000 How many does matter, but not as much as the quality of what exists.

01:26:09.000 Yeah, but if you have like 50 babies, you're bound to have one good one, right?

01:26:14.000 Odds are, I guess.

01:26:15.000 It's an interesting point about the like, it's almost like a rationalization that you're talking about, you know, where if suppose that you, you know, didn't want to have kids because you didn't want to give up that much of yourself and of your time and you know, then you would think like, okay, well, does that make me selfish?

01:26:30.000 And then you would invert it by saying, no, no, I'm not selfish at all.

01:26:33.000 I'm actually doing the world a big favor.

01:26:35.000 I'm just actually, you know, being so nurturing here of the world by not having kids, you know, so I don't know.

01:26:42.000 I mean, unfortunately, I think that that may be true for some of them, but I honestly think it's unfortunately that there actually might genuinely be Well, let's take it to the dark place, I suppose.

01:26:52.000 If you advocate for abortion, you're less likely to have offspring.

01:26:54.000 by the idea that you know the world is a terrible place or you know that that the

01:26:59.000 world cannot support those children and that makes me really sad. Well let's take

01:27:03.000 it to the dark place I suppose. If you advocate for abortion you're less likely 0.90

01:27:06.000 to have offspring. If you sterilize your kids you're less likely to have your 0.63

01:27:10.000 genes persist beyond them. If you gorge yourself and you're very very unhealthy

01:27:14.000 you're also less likely to have kids.

01:27:15.000 You're gonna be unhealthy.

01:27:16.000 You'll die earlier. 0.87

01:27:17.000 And your genes will be removed from the future gene pool.

01:27:21.000 I went through from age 28 to 38.

01:27:25.000 I'm not bringing a kid into this hellhole.

01:27:28.000 This earth that's just falling apart.

01:27:29.000 No.

01:27:30.000 No way.

01:27:31.000 And it was...

01:27:32.000 I started off saying it almost like a joke and then I immediately started believing it.

01:27:35.000 I noticed people around me started saying it.

01:27:37.000 And only in the last three or four years have I regained a will to live and a kind of a having faith that we can make it better.

01:27:46.000 As hard as it is and as dangerous and as destructive as things can be, we can make it better.

01:27:50.000 And so I'm much more open to the idea.

01:27:52.000 Yeah, no, that's a very good point.

01:27:54.000 Because I think it says a lot about the state of a person based on what they believe.

01:27:59.000 It says a lot less about the world and a lot more about the person.

01:28:02.000 Yes, I'd given up on reality.

01:28:04.000 I was blackpilled.

01:28:05.000 I got way too much information on the internet in 2006 about the military industrial complex, Monsanto, the pharmaceutical companies, all the lies, the media lies.

01:28:16.000 And I was like, well, I mean, how could we ever dig out of this?

01:28:19.000 We're buried.

01:28:20.000 You know, for me, I actually felt similar.

01:28:24.000 I was like, you can't have kids because the climate and everything was bad.

01:28:27.000 Until I got on the internet and started diving into the deep rabbit holes of YouTube.

01:28:31.000 And then I realized, because the Earth is flat and actually on the back of a turtle, all of the climate change stuff doesn't matter.

01:28:35.000 You should have as many kids as you can.

01:28:37.000 Kids like turtles.

01:28:39.000 I like turtles.

01:28:40.000 When I was 17, I actually begged a doctor to give me a hysterectomy when I was 17.

01:28:45.000 I've heard a number of people say similar things.

01:28:48.000 I would love to hear why you did it.

01:28:50.000 I did it because I was convinced that I never wanted to have, you know, children.

01:28:54.000 I was just like, I don't want to have to mess with birth control my whole life.

01:28:57.000 Like, just give me a hysterectomy.

01:28:59.000 And I am so thankful that the doctor refused.

01:29:02.000 So I didn't want a hysterectomy, but I wanted my tubes tied when I was like 20.

01:29:06.000 And the doctor was like, you are too young. 0.97

01:29:08.000 And I was like, you're insane. 0.98

01:29:09.000 I know exactly what I want. 0.98

01:29:10.000 What are you talking about?

01:29:10.000 And now, of course, I'm like, oh, I'm 30.

01:29:12.000 Holy crap. 0.85

01:29:13.000 I would really like to have kids. 0.98

01:29:14.000 Let's go.

01:29:15.000 Thank goodness that that doctor didn't enable me.

01:29:17.000 How I look at these doctors giving, like, you know, puberty blockers to kids. 0.99

01:29:21.000 I'm like, holy crap. 0.99

01:29:22.000 It's so bad. 0.99

01:29:23.000 It's bad.

01:29:24.000 They're just like, you're too young.

01:29:25.000 I was like, yeah, you know what?

01:29:26.000 I was.

01:29:27.000 I had five siblings and I was like, I feel like I raised enough kids for my life.

01:29:31.000 I'm good on that one.

01:29:32.000 But now I'm like, yeah, I feel like it's really important.

01:29:33.000 And these hard times are going to make strong people.

01:29:35.000 So what changed for you?

01:29:38.000 You know, I mean, I was only 17, you know what I mean?

01:29:41.000 So I think, you know, what changed is, I mean, my executive lobe matured, right?

01:29:46.000 You know, like, which, you know, doesn't happen.

01:29:48.000 You're the executive lobe of your brain, like, which doesn't finish growing until you're like 25, you know?

01:29:53.000 I was also in a very difficult place in my life.

01:29:56.000 I had a kind of a crazy childhood and everything.

01:29:59.000 I just don't think I had a good template in my mind, you know, for what that would look like.

01:30:03.000 And then, you know, just through maturing and discovering that I could have good relationships and that seeing happy families and realizing that family life could be a lot of fun, it wasn't that big of a leap for me to be like, ah, yes, motherhood.

01:30:18.000 It's wonderful that the doctor was actually concerned with you and your long-term interests rather than simply validating the choice you said you wanted to make at the time.

01:30:25.000 I think it's very sad that as a society... Affirmative care.

01:30:28.000 Affirmative care, exactly.

01:30:29.000 We put so much emphasis on what a person says that they want in any particular moment that we don't even stop to think about their long-term well-being.

01:30:37.000 And also, if someone at 17 says, I never ever want to have children, not because I want to do X, Y, and Z, or I don't think I'm called to marriage, but I just don't want to bring life into this world.

01:30:46.000 I think that's serious cause for concern for someone to say, like, hey, what's going on?

01:30:49.000 Like, why do you feel that way?

01:30:50.000 A person is revealing that there is, as you mentioned, some kind of difficulty there that you were struggling with.

01:30:56.000 And a person should care when they hear that and want to help intervene to lift the person, not give them surgeries.

01:31:02.000 Take a look at this opening paragraph from this article.

01:31:04.000 They say, Gwynne McKellen was 26 when she decided to get sterilized.

01:31:09.000 It took the recycling consultant five years to find the appropriate doctor under the public health plan she was on, but she was determined.

01:31:17.000 You know, my only response is if you are predisposed to sterilizing yourself, well, then it's a self-solving problem for everyone else, right?

01:31:24.000 I'm not saying to be mean.

01:31:25.000 It's like if you don't want to have kids, your ideas die with you.

01:31:28.000 But here's the thing, I mean, even people with bad ideas can have good children, and we are literally below replacement right now.

01:31:34.000 So it's actually bad for all of us when people have kids.

01:31:36.000 Okay, Seamus, have four kids.

01:31:37.000 I think I'm going to.

01:31:40.000 I want, look, I want to have as many as possible once I'm married.

01:31:43.000 I think, look, if, I'm talking about, I'm like, I'm thinking of being married to one woman.

01:31:48.000 I think I'm going to be married to one woman.

01:31:50.000 So this is interesting.

01:31:51.000 Do you know what Irish twins are?

01:31:52.000 No, yes.

01:31:53.000 I am an Irishman.

01:31:54.000 Yes, no, absolutely.

01:31:56.000 I very much know an Irishman.

01:31:57.000 You know what I heard?

01:31:58.000 I want to double check on this.

01:32:00.000 Feel free to fact check this, but I heard that part of why it's generally the stereotype that Irish people have many children.

01:32:07.000 It's not just because, you know, we're Irish Catholics.

01:32:09.000 It's because women are, they're less likely to conceive when they're breastfeeding, but for whatever reason, Irish women tend to be more likely to have a mutation where they still will conceive even while they are breastfeeding, which is why you have Irish twins and Irish triplets and Irish babies who are born one after another. 0.66

01:32:27.000 So, for those that aren't familiar, Irish twins is basically when the woman gets, conceives, gets pregnant almost immediately after she gives birth, so you actually have siblings who are not a year older than each other.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, I was 13 months younger than my older sister.

01:32:41.000 So my parents were not messing around.

01:32:43.000 Not quite Irish twins.

01:32:44.000 Not quite.

01:32:45.000 Very close.

01:32:46.000 Yeah, very close.

01:32:46.000 But it's like, you'll, you'll have two kids and they're just like, how old are you?

01:32:49.000 I'm 10 and you?

01:32:50.000 10.

01:32:50.000 Oh, you're twins.

01:32:51.000 Well, we're nine months, 10 months apart.

01:32:53.000 It's like, oh, not a year apart.

01:32:55.000 Are there, is there data explaining why?

01:32:57.000 Well, this is, and this is also why I said fact check.

01:33:00.000 This is something I heard recently that I found interesting and that's why I'm issuing the caveat to fact check this.

01:33:04.000 I just thought it was a very interesting theory.

01:33:05.000 You know what we should do?

01:33:06.000 But it is a phenomenon, right?

01:33:08.000 People constantly say, well, when you breastfeed, you will not get pregnant.

01:33:11.000 But I know, I actually know a number of women who do have Irish twins. 0.98

01:33:15.000 It's fascinating in that we call them Irish twins.

01:33:17.000 I find that really interesting.

01:33:18.000 We should do exponential tax credits, child tax credits.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, like Hungary?

01:33:22.000 So like the first kid is as X, the second kid is X plus Y, the third kid is X plus Y squared or whatever. 0.54

01:33:30.000 I think Iceland did that.

01:33:33.000 The problem is having kids that you don't take care of just for money.

01:33:37.000 It's not for money, it's a tax credit.

01:33:39.000 You're not getting money, you're paying less in taxes.

01:33:41.000 But like a bad parent, that's vague, but like a parent that's vacant, that's off working and has like five kids and they don't instruct them on what's good and then the kids grow up and become villains, you know, that's a problem.

01:33:52.000 I don't want to encourage that.

01:33:54.000 But we're not giving you money, it's a tax credit.

01:33:56.000 So you're keeping more of the money you earn.

01:33:58.000 I just don't know if more is better.

01:34:01.000 It's the quality of the unit.

01:34:04.000 If you have more than one child, you need that money.

01:34:07.000 You need a tax credit.

01:34:08.000 You need to keep more of the money that you earn.

01:34:10.000 In fact, they know that one of the problems that children face when they're in a large family is that their parents aren't able to earn quite as much.

01:34:16.000 This is one of the reasons I wrote about this.

01:34:18.000 This is why dementia is higher in parents who have more than three children.

01:34:22.000 Because it's much more stressful to be able to work enough to give, for example, six children, like were in my family, to be able to give them a stable home.

01:34:31.000 And I still, to this day, don't understand how I was a single, my family was a single income home, my mother was a stay-at-home mother, and I had five siblings.

01:34:40.000 It's incredible to me.

01:34:41.000 Like, you cannot duplicate that in this day and age.

01:34:43.000 You guys did a lot of sustainability, right, at the house?

01:34:46.000 No, we did have five acres and we had cows and chickens and goats and stuff, but we weren't like a green family. 0.96

01:34:52.000 We just were like culturally sound.

01:34:54.000 We went to church.

01:34:55.000 We followed traditional values.

01:34:57.000 We were homeschooled and my mother stayed at home.

01:34:59.000 It was very interesting.

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01:35:23.000 Legamuthigain says, Young Democrat male feminists losing support for feminism

01:35:29.000 is a depressing reflection of the times.

01:35:30.000 The supply chain issues have made getting rehypnol difficult for them and suddenly they want trad wives and 1.00

01:35:36.000 gender roles. 1.00

01:35:38.000 Yikes.

01:35:38.000 Maybe so.

01:35:39.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:35:40.000 The mind-altering chemicals courtesy of China aren't coming in, huh? 0.99

01:35:45.000 Alright.

01:35:46.000 John Kirsten says Tim the whole double standard and self-censorship ideas you talk about is Herbert Marcuse idea of repressive

01:35:52.000 tolerance Oh, yes, we

01:35:55.000 We talked about that a little bit before the show.

01:35:57.000 Do you want to explain?

01:35:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:35:59.000 So I was listening to the conversations that you guys had a couple nights ago about why, you know, maybe just saying that there's a double standard in the press.

01:36:08.000 Like Tim was saying, like, I'm just sick of saying it.

01:36:10.000 Like, can we just stop? 0.99

01:36:11.000 Because we're just saying it and it's stupid to just keep saying it. 0.88

01:36:13.000 And I was saying that in an abusive relationship, it's actually really important to keep naming 0.79

01:36:19.000 and describing and saying what the abuse is, because otherwise we actually can go into denial about it

01:36:26.000 or we can start normalizing it.

01:36:29.000 And so even if we feel powerless to fight it, which Tim was telling me as well,

01:36:33.000 that what he wants is for people to not just, you know, quit talking about it,

01:36:37.000 but for people to start doing something about it, which I think is great.

01:36:41.000 But I was saying, like, even if you don't feel like you're ready to do something about it, you should, I think, not, you know, quit talking about it.

01:36:47.000 Because when we quit talking about something, then we lose touch with the reality of that thing.

01:36:53.000 And we need to stay focused on it.

01:36:55.000 Actually, with my book, Nervous Energy Harness the Power of Your Anxiety, the whole idea there is that you take that awareness when you sense an injustice and that something is wrong or you're having an emotion about it, and you use that emotion to fuel behavior to make a change.

01:37:11.000 So when you're like getting upset that there's this double standard, you would then say to yourself, like, okay, well, what are five things that I can do to, you know, fight this double standard?

01:37:20.000 And Tim was talking about his parallel economy idea, which I think is very intriguing.

01:37:24.000 Yeah, you know, so we were talking and I said, what's the point of telling everyone over and over again?

01:37:29.000 There's a double standard we can all plainly see and experience.

01:37:32.000 And the solution is, well, we should be investing in utilizing alternate infrastructures, alternative infrastructures.

01:37:39.000 So when big tech doesn't ban Antifa, but they do ban some random guys that learn to code.

01:37:44.000 We need to start just saying, we get it.

01:37:46.000 We're in an abusive relationship and it's time to leave.

01:37:50.000 So we'll make our own platforms.

01:37:51.000 That's what's happening.

01:37:52.000 That's why we're using Rumble cloud infrastructure for the website.

01:37:56.000 We use Rumble for our members only section.

01:37:58.000 And we've got some other things in the works that I frequently mention we can't talk about until we do it.

01:38:03.000 For security reasons, but we've got stuff we're working on.

01:38:05.000 That's really interesting about speaking up about injustice and continuing to, because in some countries you'd be killed for speaking up, and we have the First Amendment, and that's like a form of exercising that, and like a duty to continue to exercise that.

01:38:16.000 Right, which is, I have to say, my next blog is going to be about the mental health benefits of free speech.

01:38:22.000 So if anybody wants to get that blog sent to them, you can go to makeachange.us, makeachange.us, and give me your email and I will send you my blog when it comes out on mental health benefits of free speech.

01:38:34.000 We got a super chat here.

01:38:35.000 I am honored.

01:38:36.000 It's from Joe Biden, and it says, Seamus's hair looks like it smells good.

01:38:42.000 Come on, man.

01:38:43.000 Confirmed.

01:38:45.000 Well, you know, that's old Joe, huh?

01:38:46.000 That's old Joe.

01:38:47.000 But is there, I mean, it's not a high compliment.

01:38:50.000 Is there anyone whose hair he doesn't think looks like it smells good?

01:38:52.000 Well, that's a good point.

01:38:54.000 Let me smell that hair, man.

01:38:55.000 Come on, man.

01:38:56.000 What are you doing, man?

01:38:57.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:38:58.000 says, watched What Is A Woman so good, yet so sad too.

01:39:02.000 Seamus made a funny joke about, uh, about it.

01:39:05.000 Oh, yeah, I was like, oh, Ian mentioned he was watching it before the show.

01:39:08.000 I was like, bro, you're not gonna believe the plot twist.

01:39:09.000 Like, when they find out what a woman is, I was like, oh my gosh. 1.00

01:39:11.000 The twist at the end is amazing.

01:39:12.000 Turns out Matt Walsh is a woman.

01:39:15.000 Turns out Matt Walsh is like, I guess I'm a woman.

01:39:17.000 He was a woman the whole time? 1.00

01:39:18.000 No, props to him.

01:39:20.000 It really was very good.

01:39:22.000 The whole movie is just about his gender transition?

01:39:25.000 What is a woman? 1.00

01:39:27.000 He's like, just slowly looks more and more like a woman throughout the film. 0.96

01:39:31.000 It's at the end, he's like, I'm a woman.

01:39:34.000 There are funny bits in there, though.

01:39:36.000 You gotta see it.

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 He's like, is my son my daughter?

01:39:38.000 Yeah.

01:39:39.000 I don't want to spoil it, though, so.

01:39:40.000 It is really good.

01:39:41.000 All right.

01:39:43.000 Ola says, Luke, where are you?

01:39:44.000 I have questions about Steven Banderas and Poland.

01:39:48.000 Poland and Ukraine, how connected are they?

01:39:50.000 I.e., is it better to be a Nazi just to oppose Russia? 0.62

01:39:53.000 P.S., What Is Woman was great. 0.99

01:39:55.000 Luke, I think is gonna be here tomorrow.

01:39:59.000 Solid.

01:39:59.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:40:00.000 We're talking about the Azov, good question.

01:40:02.000 Yep, that's right.

01:40:03.000 And no, I don't think it's better to be a Nazi.

01:40:05.000 There's a funny meme and it says, you never ask a man his salary, you never ask a woman her age, and you never ask the Azov battalion what this symbol means, and it's the black sun.

01:40:15.000 All right.

01:40:16.000 Flo says, any misogynistic transphobic speech and coded rhetoric espoused here will be monitored and recorded.

01:40:23.000 You should learn to tone down your views.

01:40:25.000 Believe women.

01:40:25.000 Trans lives matter.

01:40:27.000 We're building a better world.

01:40:28.000 You can't stop us.

01:40:29.000 Simply accept it.

01:40:30.000 Thank you for the $50.

01:40:31.000 Good sir.

01:40:33.000 Eyes keen.

01:40:35.000 Correction, Shimcast.

01:40:36.000 A word can mean whatever you want it to mean, except what it actually means.

01:40:40.000 Oh my gosh.

01:40:42.000 That's actually very true.

01:40:45.000 Joe Biden back with another super chat.

01:40:46.000 He says, anyone seen my nurse?

01:40:48.000 My pony orange fell off my Jupiter chair and the grilled cheese people attacked the saloon.

01:40:52.000 Come on, man.

01:40:55.000 The grilled cheese.

01:40:55.000 Is that something he said?

01:40:56.000 I look no malarkey there.

01:40:58.000 No malarkey.

01:41:00.000 What were they thinking with that slogan?

01:41:01.000 No malarkey.

01:41:02.000 They're like, he's really old.

01:41:04.000 So let's, let's roll with it.

01:41:05.000 There was one, one of the few funny more recent Onion articles was like Joe Biden appeals to 1930s tough guys with his new slogan, no malarkey.

01:41:17.000 Aside of salt says, for what is an assault weapon?

01:41:20.000 Get in touch with Langley Outdoors Academy, Reno May Guns and Gadgets, and the Firearms Policy Coalition.

01:41:26.000 They'd be great resources.

01:41:29.000 I'm really excited for this one to do like a deep dive on the history of the Second Amendment.

01:41:33.000 You do like an intro on like what the Founding Fathers actually expected and what they meant.

01:41:38.000 And you can take a look at, I mean, there's quotes in the Founding Fathers where they're like, the government may become tyrannical.

01:41:43.000 You better give everyone guns.

01:41:44.000 Yeah.

01:41:44.000 Well, it's not just guns.

01:41:45.000 Arms also include armor.

01:41:47.000 Oh, yes.

01:41:48.000 Yeah.

01:41:49.000 Armament included cannons and privateers and all of that crazy stuff.

01:41:53.000 You know, I loved what Carrie Sheffield said on your show also a couple days ago when she talked about how guns for women actually are the great equalizer. 1.00

01:42:01.000 They give us an extra layer of protection that helps us a lot.

01:42:04.000 There's a viral video out of Brazil where a guy walks up to a group of women and tries robbing them and then a woman just pulls out her gun.

01:42:11.000 That's a powerful video.

01:42:13.000 You've seen it in broad daylight.

01:42:14.000 Yeah.

01:42:15.000 There's so many videos from Brazil like that.

01:42:17.000 But yeah, man, women don't have to be worried when they're packing. 0.93

01:42:21.000 And the men don't have to be worried about the women when they're packing.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:26.000 I mean, you still have to be a little worried, you still have to worry for others, but for

01:42:30.000 the most part I worry substantially less.

01:42:32.000 It's like you're going out, stay out of dark alleys, oh you're armed?

01:42:35.000 Well, you know, stay out of them anyway.

01:42:38.000 Don't hang out in the dark alley, you're fine!

01:42:40.000 You got this.

01:42:41.000 Your aim is good.

01:42:42.000 John Curzon says, Ian was rare form last night.

01:42:45.000 Double mopping and the I elongated myself adding an inch and a half had me dying.

01:42:49.000 Ian never showed up.

01:42:51.000 The double mopping thing was bruising.

01:42:52.000 Oh yeah, I was trying to, what timestamp was that at?

01:42:54.000 I wanted to watch that.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:42:55.000 I felt like I embodied the double mopper.

01:42:57.000 That's right.

01:42:57.000 Like really pushing the mops, you know?

01:43:00.000 Sure.

01:43:00.000 Alright, alright.

01:43:02.000 That was all Tyler last night.

01:43:04.000 That was great.

01:43:04.000 That's hilarious.

01:43:05.000 So good.

01:43:06.000 Tcraft says, due to this wave of feminism, my son, 17 years old, has stated that he isn't getting married and saving the money to have a surrogate to become a single dad.

01:43:17.000 Now kids need moms and dads, yo. 0.99

01:43:18.000 Well, look, when you were 17, you wanted a hysterectomy.

01:43:22.000 Don't assume that this is how he's always going to feel.

01:43:25.000 True.

01:43:25.000 That's right.

01:43:26.000 Maybe he'll save up that money and he'll end up buying an engagement ring.

01:43:29.000 You never know.

01:43:30.000 You've got to do the handyman.

01:43:33.000 Don't spoil it.

01:43:34.000 We're working on it.

01:43:34.000 I've noticed when people say, I'm never going to blank, that's usually not real.

01:43:39.000 It's true, right?

01:43:40.000 Because how could you know?

01:43:41.000 How could you know?

01:43:42.000 Well, you know, in psychology, we have something called the need-fear dilemma, which is the thing that we need the most, like lonely people, like they crave companionship, but they also fear it the most as well.

01:43:52.000 Like the need-fear dilemma, the things we need are often the things we fear.

01:43:55.000 Sounds fun.

01:43:55.000 Yeah, I'm down.

01:43:56.000 John says the billboards are a good stick, are good to stick a finger to the elite news class.

01:44:02.000 You need to reach everyday people.

01:44:04.000 They are only reachable via word of mouth.

01:44:06.000 Sponsor Timcast in the park where your show is on a projector for foot traffic.

01:44:10.000 That sounds fun.

01:44:11.000 Yeah, I'm down.

01:44:11.000 That's great.

01:44:12.000 How about this?

01:44:13.000 Anybody who's watching who wants to put on one of those events, do it.

01:44:17.000 Let's do it, yeah.

01:44:18.000 And then you get one of those 20-foot projector screens.

01:44:20.000 How much do those things cost?

01:44:21.000 It can't be too much, right?

01:44:22.000 I don't want to say it's cheap, but you need a good projector and a PA.

01:44:24.000 Like on the wall of a building?

01:44:26.000 Oh yeah, you could do that too.

01:44:27.000 Yeah.

01:44:27.000 I don't know if you can make rules against that.

01:44:29.000 So basically everyone in every jurisdiction for the summer can do... Oh, July is MAGA Month.

01:44:34.000 That's right!

01:44:35.000 So how about for MAGA Month, you guys rent a space in a park to do a showing.

01:44:40.000 But don't just do our show.

01:44:41.000 Maybe do a screening of What Is A Woman?

01:44:43.000 I just pulled up a 20-foot projector.

01:44:45.000 220 bucks.

01:44:45.000 Okay, not everybody can afford that, but, you know, if you're interested, that'd be really, really cool.

01:44:49.000 And I wouldn't want to just be like, promote our show.

01:44:52.000 I mean, have our show, have other shows.

01:44:54.000 Maybe do like an all-day thing where you'll play like various documentaries, films, Jordan Peterson.

01:45:00.000 This is the big thing.

01:45:01.000 Community building.

01:45:02.000 So we're talking about doing skate competitions, blading, rollerblading, scooting, bike, all that stuff.

01:45:07.000 So that we can tell people, buy some of the stuff for your kids, get your kids a skateboard, get them rollerblades, get them a scooter, bring them on to the park where we're gonna have burgers and hang out and everyone gets to talk.

01:45:15.000 Community building is so important.

01:45:17.000 Yes.

01:45:19.000 All right.

01:45:22.000 King Tesseract says, so you guys watch anime occasionally?

01:45:25.000 Have you watched TTGL?

01:45:27.000 Seamus might like it because it's basically the Gospel of St.

01:45:31.000 Simon Peter written by Michael Bay on LSD.

01:45:33.000 It's an anime version of the Gospels.

01:45:35.000 Fair warning, it was aimed at 14-year-old Japanese boys.

01:45:38.000 What is TTGL?

01:45:39.000 Tangentapa Gurren Lagann.

01:45:41.000 Oh, is that what it is?

01:45:42.000 That's what it looks like, yeah.

01:45:43.000 Is it really the Gospel of St.

01:45:46.000 Simon Peter?

01:45:46.000 I don't know.

01:45:48.000 Curious now.

01:45:50.000 Ian Kinney says you should have Warren Thomas Farrell on the show.

01:45:53.000 He initially came to prominence in the 1970s as a supporter of second-wave feminism, now fights for men and is the author of The Boy Crosses.

01:46:01.000 I am familiar.

01:46:02.000 I watched a video a long time ago where this guy was trying to go to a lecture on male suicides, and leftists and feminists blocked the doors.

01:46:12.000 And this guy was trying to go and they wouldn't let him in.

01:46:15.000 And they're like, why are you coming here?

01:46:16.000 This guy's a bigot.

01:46:17.000 And he's like, I want to know why my friend killed himself. 0.98

01:46:19.000 And they were like, get out of here, you Nazi, and it was crazy stuff. 0.99

01:46:22.000 These people are Nazis, man. 0.99

01:46:24.000 Sad stuff.

01:46:27.000 Susie Anna says, after my youngest, along with male classmates, were daily forced to sit legs crossed like a girl, and the females sat with their legs spread like boys, the next semester I pulled my six boys from public school.

01:46:40.000 You know what the funniest thing about the man-spreading stuff was?

01:46:43.000 They were like... I just felt like a bunch of dudes outed themselves as having small balls or something. 0.98

01:46:48.000 Because I was like, dude, I don't like crossing my legs like that because it hurts my junk. 0.99

01:46:52.000 And then there are these guys who are like, just sit with your legs crossed. 0.91

01:46:55.000 And I'm like, men sit with their legs crossed with their ankle on their knee.

01:47:00.000 Women sit with their legs crossed with knee over knee. 0.99

01:47:02.000 It looks weird to me when I see a man crossing his legs like a woman. 0.99

01:47:05.000 Very effeminate. 0.94

01:47:06.000 Yeah.

01:47:06.000 I mean...

01:47:08.000 I love doing it every once in a while.

01:47:09.000 You get into that, like, bohemian artist look where, like, they have a cigarette hanging out of their fingers and they're all tight and twisted.

01:47:14.000 Well, like I just said, some men are outing themselves and having small junk, I guess. 0.95

01:47:16.000 Yeah, you gotta move back and get your junk lower than your, like, below your legs if you're gonna twist and turn. 0.96

01:47:23.000 I just think it was really funny that they did an ad campaign in subways and billboards being like, no manspreading. 0.96

01:47:29.000 And it was just, like, this idea of manspreading is not a real thing.

01:47:32.000 Like, there's videos of women and they're, like, cowering as the man's pushing his legs.

01:47:36.000 He's so pressed.

01:47:37.000 It's like his man's legs are spread.

01:47:39.000 So there was femme bagging became a thing. 1.00

01:47:42.000 Women putting their bags on the chairs. 0.97

01:47:43.000 I think someone made a video of women pressing their boobs against a guy and he got really mad. 0.86

01:47:48.000 He got mad? 0.98

01:47:49.000 Yeah, it was a gag video.

01:47:50.000 It was like, how dare you boob smush me?

01:47:53.000 Get those things out of here! 1.00

01:47:54.000 And she's like, I can't.

01:47:56.000 I'm like, they're on my chest. 0.99

01:47:57.000 And he's like, yeah, but my balls are in my legs. 0.99

01:48:00.000 Flo says, Conservatives have for too long bragged about their socioeconomic successes, culture, and their privilege to defend their property, all at the expense of black and trans lives. 0.99

01:48:10.000 It's time that we Democrats change the conversation and act.

01:48:14.000 Wow, Flo, thank you for another $50.

01:48:16.000 Yeah, interesting.

01:48:18.000 We're more than happy to read all of those.

01:48:19.000 I don't know if that's meant to be sarcastic or a joke or whatever.

01:48:21.000 It's very generic, but I'll take your money to read it.

01:48:24.000 You do need to change the conversation, not the way they want to.

01:48:26.000 Yeah, change the conversation.

01:48:29.000 All right.

01:48:31.000 What do we got here?

01:48:32.000 Colin Hinrichs says, Me too has taught us that consent can be revoked once regret is established.

01:48:39.000 Keep rocking guys and gals.

01:48:40.000 I got something from basic training back in 99 I'm going to send y'all.

01:48:43.000 Cool.

01:48:46.000 Sam Good says, Seamus, do you believe husband and wife are allowed to have sex for fun? 0.99

01:48:51.000 Uh, well, husband and wife should be, uh, having sex with one another. 0.95

01:48:54.000 I don't believe that you should do anything which precludes the possibility of having a child, but it's not as if every single time people have sex, they're gonna be sitting there thinking, like, we are making a child right now, and that's our... What about pulling out?

01:49:05.000 Yeah, oh, yes, we're also against that.

01:49:07.000 Really?

01:49:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:08.000 Oh, wow.

01:49:09.000 Like, the Catholic Church is against it?

01:49:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:13.000 Because it prevents the final end of the sexual act, right?

01:49:16.000 It's for the purposes of unity and procreation, and so you're preventing, you're getting the pleasure out of it without fulfilling the purpose.

01:49:24.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:49:25.000 says, Tim, being called right-wing is not a smear.

01:49:28.000 Yes, it is.

01:49:29.000 It's called poisoning the well.

01:49:30.000 The idea is to create a negative interpretation of what right-wing means, accuse your opponents of being that thing, with a buzz term that many on the right are willing to accept, that way when people are like, you know what, I guess I am a conservative, you've poisoned the well on behalf of the person smearing you.

01:49:45.000 Then, the brainwashed NPC liberals, or the default liberals, who hear right-wing equals bad, see you say, I guess I am, and then they go, okay, you're bad then.

01:49:54.000 So, when they call you right-wing, they're doing it to otherize you, so it's more difficult for you to reach regular people.

01:50:03.000 But for people who are fine with it, you're right.

01:50:05.000 You know, they don't care.

01:50:08.000 Let's see, Raksha Jenkins says, Ian, you are overbashed and underappreciated.

01:50:12.000 I appreciate your unique and likely neurodivergent view on things.

01:50:16.000 I get what it's like when you perceive weird peripheral connections between things that others don't.

01:50:20.000 Yeah, I think of ideas as geometric shapes in a three-dimensional sphere that are all kind of fitting into each other like a Rubik's Cube.

01:50:27.000 So when people bring up an idea that I don't understand, I still see the shape of it and how it fits into the conversation.

01:50:32.000 Wandering Mage says, so we all doing MAGA month in July, right guys?

01:50:36.000 Serious point.

01:50:37.000 Title IX makes dating at college is a minefield.

01:50:39.000 Keep in mind that three most common places people meet their spouses is school, work, and church.

01:50:44.000 Yep.

01:50:45.000 July is MAGA month?

01:50:47.000 Dude, we are gonna be making burgers and dogs every weekend.

01:50:50.000 We better make some before the show on the 4th.

01:50:52.000 We got Portillo's!

01:50:53.000 I think the best social media dating app is YouTube, personally.

01:50:57.000 Because if you make videos, and you put yourself, your real self out there, people see it, and then the people that you would get along with contact you, and you just take it seriously.

01:51:07.000 I'm really excited for Magamoth.

01:51:08.000 I am too.

01:51:09.000 I can't do it.

01:51:10.000 I can't do it.

01:51:10.000 I feel like it's provoking.

01:51:11.000 It's attempting to provoke people.

01:51:12.000 What?

01:51:13.000 It's the 4th of July, bro!

01:51:14.000 Well, I'm celebrating that.

01:51:15.000 Independence Day, yeah.

01:51:16.000 And that's the point.

01:51:16.000 But calling it... It's too, like, Republican.

01:51:19.000 It's too, like, political for me.

01:51:22.000 I disagree.

01:51:23.000 I think we're gonna change all of our background photos to American flags.

01:51:26.000 Yes.

01:51:28.000 It's Fourth of July.

01:51:28.000 Yeah, make America great, man.

01:51:31.000 Absolutely.

01:51:31.000 Make America great, Ian Crossland.

01:51:33.000 And then, don't you want an excuse to just have burgers every weekend?

01:51:38.000 That's all it really is.

01:51:40.000 It's like, yo, America, woo, let's get burgers.

01:51:42.000 Lettuce wrap?

01:51:42.000 Yeah, if we wrap it in lettuce, yeah.

01:51:44.000 Yeah, we'll do lettuce wrap.

01:51:46.000 Yeah, Biden's gonna come out against MAGA month by making beef so expensive that no one can celebrate it.

01:51:52.000 He's already there.

01:51:53.000 Yeah, we got snacks for the house just now and it was like $250.

01:51:56.000 So much money.

01:51:58.000 Beanburgers.

01:51:58.000 It was just like salamis and cheese and it was insanely expensive.

01:52:01.000 Yeah.

01:52:02.000 I remember a few years ago, we'd go to the grocery store and fill up the cart for 300 bucks.

01:52:05.000 Yep.

01:52:05.000 Then one day, like last year, we went to the supermarket, cart was half full and it was 300 and something bucks.

01:52:11.000 Did you see Jamie Diamond?

01:52:12.000 He's the... Diamond?

01:52:14.000 Diamond.

01:52:15.000 Thank you, Jamie Diamonds.

01:52:16.000 He said that storm clouds, he said that people are about to face an economic hurricane that is incomprehensible.

01:52:22.000 Yeah.

01:52:23.000 Gas prices.

01:52:24.000 Dude, the diesel shortages.

01:52:27.000 Forget the price of diesel.

01:52:28.000 When the trucker's like, I'd like to bring the food to your store, but I have no gas.

01:52:32.000 But Jamie Dimon also said crypto is a joke, and then he bought a bunch.

01:52:35.000 And then he bought a bunch.

01:52:37.000 That's what I love when these like, these progressive and these lefties are like, but crypto is a scam.

01:52:41.000 And I'm like, All of these big banks and institutions are buying it up while telling you it's a scam.

01:52:48.000 I mean, that says something, doesn't it?

01:52:49.000 Did you not learn anything from 2008?

01:52:50.000 Come on.

01:52:53.000 All right, all right.

01:52:54.000 Let's get some more superchats in here. 0.98

01:52:58.000 Okay, where are we at?

01:53:00.000 Bomb Globe says, give me your fluids, women. 1.00

01:53:04.000 I don't think that pickup line is going to work.

01:53:07.000 No, it's trade me your fluids. 0.97

01:53:08.000 Try it.

01:53:09.000 Just try that.

01:53:09.000 Trade with me.

01:53:10.000 Try trading fluids and see how that goes.

01:53:12.000 Let's trade.

01:53:13.000 John Hanson says, what are the chances of getting John Stossel on?

01:53:16.000 Ian, check out Rob Braxman, internet privacy guy, that's right up your alley.

01:53:20.000 Uh, Jon Starsall is always welcome on the show.

01:53:22.000 He's amazing.

01:53:23.000 He is.

01:53:23.000 But he's also very old.

01:53:24.000 I don't know if he can do it.

01:53:25.000 He is somewhat old.

01:53:26.000 I have talked to his people and he's very busy and also very old.

01:53:29.000 That's a deadly combination.

01:53:30.000 He'll love that you guys are saying that about him.

01:53:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:32.000 Oh, I know.

01:53:33.000 He's gonna love it.

01:53:34.000 I've been on his show.

01:53:35.000 He had me on.

01:53:35.000 Oh, he's awesome.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:53:39.000 ToTheMoon says, have you ever had a baked potato?

01:53:41.000 They're pretty sexy.

01:53:42.000 It's pretty great, yeah.

01:53:43.000 Yeah, Seamus, let's say you.

01:53:45.000 Why does every potato thing have to be turned back to me?

01:53:48.000 The funny thing is, you're the one who started it.

01:53:51.000 No, I'm not.

01:53:52.000 You guys literally are.

01:53:53.000 Hey, real talk, do you prefer sweet potato or regular potato?

01:53:55.000 Oh, regular potato.

01:53:57.000 I'm a regular potato man.

01:53:59.000 Irish propaganda.

01:54:00.000 Are you kidding me?

01:54:02.000 Bro, I'm already sweet enough.

01:54:03.000 That's true, yeah.

01:54:05.000 We had an idea for the vlog for a bit where it's a background gag where just like Seamus uses potatoes as currency.

01:54:11.000 So it's not like directly addressed in the show.

01:54:13.000 You just like, you'll see him in the background and a pizza guy will be at the door while you'll see someone talking in the foreground in the background.

01:54:19.000 Seamus will take a pizza from the pizza guy and then hand him a potato.

01:54:22.000 But then the pizza guy will take out two smaller potatoes as change and give it to him and take the big potato.

01:54:26.000 I only did that once and they want it to be like a regular thing. 0.94

01:54:29.000 It's ridiculous.

01:54:30.000 You know what we can do? 0.75

01:54:31.000 Favorite pizza with potatoes once.

01:54:32.000 The pizza place will be like Patty's Pizza.

01:54:35.000 So it'll be like an Irish pizza place.

01:54:37.000 First of all, I would never ever pay for food made by Irish people. 1.00

01:54:42.000 It's like, are you crazy? 0.99

01:54:44.000 That's nuts, dude. 0.98

01:54:45.000 Shepherd's pie is legit.

01:54:46.000 Corned beef, man.

01:54:47.000 Every now and again.

01:54:48.000 Shepherd's pie is delicious.

01:54:48.000 So good.

01:54:50.000 I remember when I went to Ireland and I was just like, I went to a restaurant and they were like, what are you having?

01:54:54.000 And I was like, oh, come on.

01:54:55.000 Irish food.

01:54:55.000 I'm an American.

01:54:56.000 And they were like, a pint of Guinness and a Shepherd's pie.

01:54:58.000 And I was like, yes, please.

01:54:59.000 Thank you.

01:54:59.000 Of course.

01:55:00.000 But then I was informed that I was in Northern Ireland, so it didn't count.

01:55:02.000 No, it didn't.

01:55:03.000 No, it didn't count.

01:55:04.000 They were like, you have to go to Dublin.

01:55:06.000 And I was like, that is, okay, I accept that, I guess.

01:55:09.000 Although the people up there didn't, you know, they were cool.

01:55:13.000 Martin Edgar says my daughter said her mom told her first marriage is for love, the second is for money.

01:55:19.000 Her mom and I got married in 1990 and divorced in 96.

01:55:21.000 She's been married four times.

01:55:22.000 Wow.

01:55:23.000 No, but I think that one actually is a better saying.

01:55:25.000 You know why?

01:55:27.000 The first time is for love.

01:55:29.000 It means you mean it.

01:55:30.000 And at that point, if you're getting married again, you're just doing it because you're trying to exploit it.

01:55:33.000 That's fair.

01:55:34.000 Good point.

01:55:35.000 Yeah, but why would you be getting married again if your first marriage was for love?

01:55:38.000 Why would that marriage end?

01:55:40.000 I don't understand.

01:55:41.000 I think because the Greeks have divided into eight different types of love and sometimes people feel one or a few of them, but it's not holistic.

01:55:48.000 And when you find that holistic love, it usually lasts.

01:55:51.000 Yeah, but if you're going to get married for love, the whole point is you don't want to ever have to say goodbye.

01:55:55.000 I don't know.

01:55:58.000 Pedro Henrique says, Tim, I am a sucker for your takes.

01:56:01.000 I'm a right-wing libertarian that'd love to neighbor settlements with your socialist compound.

01:56:06.000 Thank you for bringing in some logical sense, and kudos to him to get you.

01:56:11.000 West Virginia, man, this is the dream.

01:56:14.000 Everybody's like Texas, and I'm like, nah.

01:56:17.000 Although I think it's fair to say that those who are moving to Texas and Florida are fighting a good fight.

01:56:21.000 You're- you're changing, you know, these are- these are- Texas is turning purple, Florida has been purple, and if you move there and you pull back, you're- you're helping secure those locations, so I can respect that.

01:56:33.000 MothMoniker says, could you have Elon Musk on Timcast and also Thunderf00t have them on the podcast for a couple hours?

01:56:39.000 Now that- now is the time for Philip to roast Musk in front of the world, have them at the same time together.

01:56:45.000 Yeah, I wish.

01:56:46.000 Thunderf00t, sure.

01:56:47.000 Um, Elon, Oh, fingers crossed.

01:56:51.000 Yeah.

01:56:51.000 I do want to mention though, we got Starlink.

01:56:54.000 So I've been on the wait list for Starlink for like a year.

01:56:57.000 Then they launched Starvink, Starvink, Starlink, Starvink, Starlink for RV.

01:57:03.000 That's why I said that merged them on accident.

01:57:06.000 The, so the RV version is instant.

01:57:07.000 We got it right away.

01:57:08.000 They shipped it as soon as I ordered it.

01:57:10.000 184 megabits down, five megabits up, 82 millisecond latency.

01:57:16.000 We're gonna have to figure out how to make Starlink satellites out of metamaterials that are see-through so that they're more defensible to Chinese attack.

01:57:23.000 There's an article saying that.

01:57:25.000 And they won't clog up the sky.

01:57:26.000 So the issue is, with 5 megabits up, we would not be able to do the show unless we dropped it down to like 480.

01:57:34.000 480p.

01:57:34.000 And then we'd be streaming I think like 700k, and that would be possible.

01:57:38.000 It's an option.

01:57:39.000 If we're on the road and we want, like, so Porkfest, this big libertarian thing in New Hampshire, we're not going to be making it there, but we were considering it.

01:57:45.000 The challenge was, how do you get internet in the middle of nowhere?

01:57:48.000 Now that we have Starlink, we'd be able to do a lower quality broadcast using Starlink, so that would be cool.

01:57:54.000 So we can be in the middle of a desert and do a show.

01:57:57.000 That's really cool.

01:57:58.000 Yeah.

01:57:58.000 So I'm glad we got Starlink.

01:58:00.000 This is exactly what I needed it for, for the mobile studio.

01:58:04.000 And it's good to have just as an alternative.

01:58:06.000 We could go to the desert on the van, open up the side of the van, flash lights on a sitting in the desert and record us like with the desert in the background.

01:58:15.000 Yes, that'd be great.

01:58:16.000 Yeah, I want to do a show like we could play a live show like that too.

01:58:19.000 It'd be fun.

01:58:19.000 Yeah.

01:58:21.000 WordsArePower says, have y'all heard of a, quote, girlfriend experience?

01:58:25.000 It's something that sex workers offer to mimic a relationship with a person for a set period of time. 1.00

01:58:30.000 I think it's terrible that people are only getting cheap imitations of the real thing.

01:58:34.000 I'm sure it ain't cheap.

01:58:34.000 Probably costs a lot of money.

01:58:35.000 Yeah.

01:58:36.000 But no, totally agreed.

01:58:36.000 Very sad.

01:58:37.000 But, you know, people, the funny thing is you assume it's going to be like snuggling and having breakfast when in reality it's like yelling at you about leaving your shirt on the floor again.

01:58:44.000 It's like you kicked your shoes off and you threw your socks on the floor.

01:58:47.000 I swear, like, you know, throughout my house there are socks just everywhere.

01:58:52.000 I believe it.

01:58:52.000 Because I'll take my socks off and just throw them.

01:58:54.000 I think there's like a pair of shoes and socks underneath the table.

01:58:55.000 There's shoes up here, I know.

01:58:56.000 That's hilarious.

01:58:57.000 No, I was thinking the exact same thing.

01:58:59.000 Like, wouldn't it be hilarious if it was just like you're fighting all the time?

01:59:02.000 I looked around my room and there was clothes laying everywhere.

01:59:04.000 I was like, I'm starting to look like Tim's house.

01:59:06.000 My room looks like Tim's room.

01:59:07.000 You can remedy this, Ian.

01:59:09.000 No, my house actually looks like my room.

01:59:11.000 It was funny, the other day I brought up, so Allison is my girlfriend and she was mountain biking.

01:59:18.000 and so I ate bacon dipped in cheese sauce for dinner and then I mentioned that and she started laughing her ass off because like when she's around I have like grilled chicken breast with fresh vegetables and then when she's not I just dip bacon and cheese I'm like that sounds like a really typical man thing to do it's like well I can't cook so you can cook you're a great cook yeah but I don't have time and so I'm just like Dipping bacon and cheese is really good.

01:59:46.000 It's keto.

01:59:47.000 It's keto, but it was delicious.

01:59:49.000 And I made the cheese sauce.

01:59:50.000 Oh, okay.

01:59:50.000 I made it the previous night.

01:59:51.000 It was, uh, you know, because I know how to make cheese sauce.

01:59:53.000 We just melt cheese?

01:59:55.000 So, cheese, cream, and then a little cornstarch to thicken it up and get a nice, you know, queso going.

02:00:00.000 But it was a couple different kinds of cheese.

02:00:02.000 Garlic.

02:00:02.000 It's a little spice in it.

02:00:03.000 A little spice.

02:00:04.000 Like fresh garlic in there?

02:00:05.000 Oh yeah.

02:00:06.000 I'm getting hungry.

02:00:07.000 It sounds delicious.

02:00:08.000 It was really good.

02:00:09.000 And then the next day, I'm looking in the fridge and there's like raw chicken breast and I'm like, well, I'm not cooking that.

02:00:14.000 You know, I don't, I don't even know where to begin.

02:00:16.000 And there's like peppers and vegetables and broccoli.

02:00:18.000 And then I just grabbed the cheese sauce, microwaved it.

02:00:21.000 And then we have this prepackaged bacon that Libby Emmons swears by. 1.00

02:00:24.000 She's like, this is so good.

02:00:25.000 And then I just peeled it open and was like dipping it in the cheese.

02:00:28.000 I was looking for chips, to have just chips, and I didn't have any.

02:00:31.000 So I was like, alright, I guess I'll just dip bacon in this.

02:00:33.000 You ever make potato chips?

02:00:35.000 That's pretty fun.

02:00:35.000 Yeah!

02:00:36.000 Just slice up the bacon.

02:00:37.000 Fry them up.

02:00:37.000 Oh, you can fry them too.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, and you can bake tortilla chips too.

02:00:40.000 That's a lot of fun.

02:00:41.000 Alright, where were we?

02:00:45.000 Alright, Nate Garland says, My wife and I met and dated in high school, and then got married at 21, both 31 now.

02:00:51.000 We're both sinners, saved by grace, so we understand we will fail each other.

02:00:55.000 10 years and 3 kids later, praise God.

02:00:57.000 There you go.

02:00:58.000 Good for you.

02:00:58.000 God bless you.

02:01:01.000 Shamim Islam says language is the culprit.

02:01:03.000 Marriage is the real relationship.

02:01:05.000 Relationships before marriage are now an excuse to have sex, resulting in perverse instant... instantation... what is it?

02:01:13.000 Instant... instantiation?

02:01:15.000 Instantiation?

02:01:16.000 Love that word, man.

02:01:19.000 I believe that having kids is more of a commitment than marriage.

02:01:26.000 Am I off on that?

02:01:28.000 There's reasons for marriage and it greatly involves children.

02:01:33.000 Yeah, I hear that.

02:01:36.000 Well, it's funny because on the one hand, I knew someone who had a kid with someone and I was like, oh, when you guys get married, he's like, no, it's too much of a commitment.

02:01:43.000 I was like, you have a child?

02:01:45.000 What are you talking about?

02:01:47.000 You have brought a human into the world with this person.

02:01:50.000 So people, yeah.

02:01:51.000 But I do believe marriage is a very, very serious commitment as well.

02:01:55.000 People do need to take it extremely seriously.

02:01:58.000 It's still death.

02:01:59.000 It's still death you part.

02:02:00.000 You know you're gonna be with that person till that you have to care like you have a responsibility to your children, right?

02:02:04.000 But you know your children can sort of move away and go other places like you are going to be with that spouse forever if you're doing it right.

02:02:11.000 Gaming with Spoon says just wanted to say thank you Tim finally caved and watched Star Trek because you wouldn't stop talking about it and absolutely loving it.

02:02:19.000 Keep on fighting the fight you guys give me hope that we can get through.

02:02:22.000 Star Trek The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine.

02:02:26.000 Yo, Deep Space Nine, man.

02:02:28.000 In the Pale Moonlight, the episode where, I'm gonna spoil it because it's just amazing and you gotta watch it, where they basically, the Federation stages a false flag attack to force one of their adversaries into a war on their side.

02:02:40.000 Brutal.

02:02:41.000 What a, what a great show.

02:02:43.000 Next Generation's legit.

02:02:45.000 All the new Star Trek stuff is just like, ugh.

02:02:49.000 I'll give, I'll, I'll, I'll try watching the new one, I don't know what it's called, what it's called, Strange New World or something?

02:02:53.000 Man.

02:02:55.000 Map prequels.

02:02:56.000 Come on.

02:02:57.000 Give me an advanced All right skater own solution says Tim How can we get the Tim cast boards previously mentioned want to have them to give away at a contest we are doing?

02:03:09.000 Send your address To spin the UFO at gmail.com and we will have some step on snake and find out skateboards sent to you.

02:03:18.000 Oh And if you would be so kind, title it very clearly what you're emailing about.

02:03:22.000 Tell me you're asking for Step on Snake boards.

02:03:25.000 Not only that, I'll tell you what else we'll do.

02:03:28.000 If you have a skate shop and you want some free boards to sell or giveaway or whatever, send us your info.

02:03:36.000 We've sent skate shops, Timcast skateboards before.

02:03:38.000 We have two graphics.

02:03:40.000 One just says Timcast on it and one says Step on Snake and find out.

02:03:44.000 So we'll send you A lot.

02:03:48.000 I think we sent, like, 50 to a shop.

02:03:52.000 And it's free.

02:03:53.000 Like, we'll give them to you.

02:03:54.000 For us, it's marketing.

02:03:54.000 For you, you can sell it and make money and support your shop.

02:03:57.000 So, I think it's a really, really good idea.

02:03:59.000 Like, the idea that we're gonna have a bunch of young people with, like, boards that rep, you know, the show and the website.

02:04:05.000 The skate shops basically are getting a donation that allows them to make money to keep going.

02:04:10.000 Uh, and not only that, with the boards we send to you, you can sell them for whatever you want.

02:04:15.000 So that means if you've got kids who are like, I can't afford a board, it's no sweat off your back to be like, take this one for free dude, keep skating.

02:04:22.000 So that's what we hope to do.

02:04:23.000 That's really, I'm really excited about that.

02:04:25.000 Alright, let's see.

02:04:27.000 We'll grab one more.

02:04:28.000 Jill Plea says, I am a mother of four.

02:04:30.000 I have a good friend who will never have children due to mental health reasons.

02:04:34.000 She is an aunt to my children and that is enough for her.

02:04:36.000 Well, I respect that.

02:04:37.000 That's cool.

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02:05:02.000 Dr. Chloe, do you want to shout anything out?

02:05:04.000 Yeah, makeachange.us.

02:05:07.000 And makeachange.us is where you can get information on my socials and my blog on the mental health benefits of free speech.

02:05:14.000 And my book, Nervous Energy, Harness the Power of Your Anxiety.

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02:05:21.000 Very cool.

02:05:22.000 Fantastic.

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02:05:48.000 We're about to wrap.

02:05:49.000 We're not doing an after show.

02:05:50.000 I had a burning question about your book.

02:05:51.000 What's the simplest way in an elevator pitch style to convert or redirect your nervous energy?

02:05:59.000 So when you feel yourself feeling anxious, you just ask yourself, what could be the healthy action that this anxiety is trying to stimulate me to take?

02:06:07.000 Because the healthy function of anxiety is to stimulate preparation behaviors.

02:06:11.000 So when you feel anxious, you say to yourself, well, what could I do right now that would help to improve my current or future situation?

02:06:18.000 But I go into a lot more detail in the book.

02:06:20.000 Thank you.

02:06:21.000 Yes.

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02:06:22.000 If you want to catch you later.

02:06:23.000 This book sounds awesome.

02:06:25.000 I'm really looking forward to reading it, and I hope that you're willing to leave a copy or two for us, for sure.

02:06:30.000 I feel like anxiety is something that's not addressed enough.

02:06:32.000 It's something left over from when we were evolving to keep us on our toes and keep us from being eaten, which is a very useful strategy when there are saber-toothed tigers around, but not so much when we're, like, living and working in cubicles and stuff.

02:06:43.000 Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading it.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 03, 2022

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