Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Primary TO BE CANCELED With Trump DISQUALIFIED, CA To Disqualify NEXT w-Michael Malice

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it is a wild week.

00:00:12.000 The Republican Party in Colorado says that if they remove Trump from the ballot, as it appears they have, they will not even have a primary.

00:00:19.000 They're threatening to withdraw from the primary system and convert to a caucus system.

00:00:24.000 And they're telling Vivek Ramaswamy, you need not pull out because we're going to convert to a caucus, so this would basically nullify what this ruling says.

00:00:31.000 But that's not completely true.

00:00:33.000 The ruling would also bar Trump from the general election as well.

00:00:36.000 So if they convert from a primary to a caucus, sure, Trump can still win the caucus system and then maybe become the nominee, but doesn't mean he can be in the general election in Colorado.

00:00:45.000 Which means, I believe about 1.5 to 1.8 million Republican votes removed from the popular vote count.

00:00:51.000 We have a lot to discuss as it pertains to this.

00:00:53.000 Now, of course, Vivek Ramaswamy said he would drop out.

00:00:55.000 He called on Ron, Christie, Nikki Haley to do the same.

00:00:57.000 Ron DeSantis has come out boldly saying, no way.

00:01:01.000 He will not drop out because he doesn't think it's legitimate anyway.

00:01:05.000 He thinks the ruling will be overturned.

00:01:07.000 And he calls us, I gotta be honest, very confusingly says, it would play into the hands of the left to stand with Donald Trump and drop out of the race, which literally makes no sense, but sure.

00:01:16.000 We'll talk about that, a bunch of other news surrounding this, and of course, everyone's two favorite words as we're getting into this subject, but I'm not going to give you your satisfaction.

00:01:25.000 I'm going to say national divorce this time anyway, because now you don't get to drink.

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00:03:03.000 The members only show tonight is going to be very, very, very fun.

00:03:08.000 Michael's been hyping it up, of course he's here, he's already laughing, and he was, yes, he's like, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna have a lot to talk about as it pertains to whether there'll be an election and Roseanne and stuff like that, so okay, okay, we're gonna have a good time, so click join us, become a member, and smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, As I already mentioned, Michael Malice is here!

00:03:28.000 Hey everybody!

00:03:30.000 Glad to be back.

00:03:31.000 Who are you?

00:03:31.000 What do you do?

00:03:32.000 My name is Michael Malice.

00:03:34.000 You can watch my show.

00:03:35.000 You're welcome.

00:03:35.000 This week I have Will Chamberlain and Dave Smith discussing Israel.

00:03:38.000 Next week we have someone who I tried to get here as a surprise to you.

00:03:43.000 You didn't even know this.

00:03:44.000 Last year on April Fool's, Meghan McCain.

00:03:47.000 So she's going to be on my show next week, recorded already.

00:03:49.000 But you came, it says she didn't come.

00:03:51.000 Correct.

00:03:52.000 And my episode on Jordan Peterson's podcast, where I get him to convince him of the virtues of anarchism, drops tomorrow.

00:03:59.000 Oh, very nice.

00:04:00.000 This will be fun.

00:04:01.000 Hannah-Claire Bermelow's hanging out.

00:04:02.000 Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brunlaw.

00:04:03.000 I'm a writer for scnr.com, also known as Scanner News.

00:04:06.000 I'm excited to be here with you guys.

00:04:07.000 Ian's here.

00:04:08.000 Hello, everyone.

00:04:09.000 I'm back.

00:04:09.000 Took a nice rest last night after our Turning Point excursion.

00:04:12.000 I was wiped of those four days.

00:04:14.000 But it was great to see everybody at the event.

00:04:15.000 Really good to meet everybody.

00:04:17.000 Good to be a part of that.

00:04:17.000 So I'm glad to be back.

00:04:18.000 Hello.

00:04:19.000 What's happening, Serge?

00:04:20.000 Yeah, you kind of sold the show the last little bit there.

00:04:23.000 That was great.

00:04:24.000 Good to know.

00:04:24.000 I loved it.

00:04:25.000 It was good.

00:04:25.000 Yeah, hey everyone.

00:04:27.000 Super glad you're here, Michael.

00:04:28.000 It'll be fun.

00:04:29.000 Let's do this show.

00:04:29.000 Let's roll.

00:04:30.000 From scnr.com, Colorado Republican Party says they will withdraw from primary and convert to caucuses if Trump ruling stands.

00:04:39.000 Quote, a majority of the court holds that President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

00:04:46.000 The ruling said because he is disqualified, it would be wrongful, a wrongful act under the election code for the Colorado Secretary of State to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot.

00:04:55.000 The lawsuit was filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, a DC-based watchdog group.

00:05:01.000 This we know.

00:05:02.000 Vivek Ramaswamy, of course, said that he would withdraw from the GOP primary until Trump is allowed to be on the ballot.

00:05:08.000 In response to this, the Colorado Republican Party says you won't have to because we will withdraw from the primary as a party and convert to a pure caucus system if this is allowed to stand.

00:05:20.000 It's getting pretty dang wild, I must say.

00:05:23.000 Now, as we mentioned in the opening to the show, that's great.

00:05:28.000 It still doesn't matter because Colorado's Supreme Court says Trump can't even run in the general.

00:05:32.000 So if this comes to January 4th, maybe even sooner, Trump is going to appeal to the Supreme Court.

00:05:39.000 I think there's a very, very, very strong reason why the Supreme Court will say no.

00:05:44.000 Many reasons, in fact.

00:05:46.000 Though many argue that the Supreme Court will intervene, It is yet to be seen.

00:05:51.000 I feel like they probably will.

00:05:55.000 I mean, this is way too serious.

00:05:56.000 I think it would.

00:05:58.000 Not only do I think they will, I think it would be 7 to 1 or 8 to 0 because the judicial branch, since the beginning, has been very reticent about getting involved when it comes to votes and things like this.

00:06:09.000 They really like it to be And Jefferson thought that the Congress should be able to supersede what the Supreme Court has to say.

00:06:16.000 They really don't like it when judges strike things off balance and things like that or get involved.

00:06:20.000 The other thing that's very important from a legal perspective is Trump hasn't been convicted of insurrection.

00:06:27.000 This is something that he's been alleged to have done.

00:06:29.000 He hasn't been demonstrated or deranged.

00:06:32.000 Isn't that so funny when Trump instead of calling him deranged just calls him deranged?

00:06:35.000 Jack Smith chose not to charge him with insurrection.

00:06:39.000 So for them to unilaterally basically backdoor insurrection guilty conviction to this is really a bridge too far.

00:06:48.000 And when you start interfering with presidential politics and you're like one state, this is something the Supremes really don't like doing because this is a big bridge to cross.

00:06:55.000 The Minnesota Supreme Court said, no, he didn't commit an insurrection.

00:06:59.000 This has to be decided by the party.

00:07:00.000 We can't take him off the ballot.

00:07:02.000 Is that what they said?

00:07:03.000 That was Minnesota.

00:07:04.000 That was their official They said, I'll pull it right now, but... I thought their ruling was, we do not have, we cannot supersede the U.S.

00:07:10.000 Constitution in terms of eligibility for... They said they can't rule on something a major political party can decide, and they noted that he hadn't been convicted.

00:07:17.000 So the thing is, there are already Supreme Court cases that say, this doesn't work.

00:07:22.000 We have immediate precedent for conflict.

00:07:23.000 And wasn't this 4-3 in Colorado, if I'm not mistaken?

00:07:25.000 Yes.

00:07:26.000 Yeah.

00:07:27.000 Well, that was my thought, that it's immediately going to the U.S.

00:07:29.000 Supreme Court.

00:07:29.000 As it should.

00:07:30.000 8-0.

00:07:30.000 Well, why should it?

00:07:31.000 Unanimous, be like, this is stupid. 1.00

00:07:32.000 Why should it? 1.00

00:07:33.000 Because this, why should it go to the U.S.?

00:07:35.000 Because it's such a big deal.

00:07:36.000 I understand it's a big deal, but like, I do think the Supreme Court would intervene because it's a big deal, but I'll give you, I'll play devil's advocate here.

00:07:45.000 Okay, sure.

00:07:45.000 If Starbucks decides to hold an election to determine the chairman of the board, should the Supreme Court intervene if Starbucks changes the rules as to how the election is held?

00:07:54.000 That's a private company.

00:07:56.000 And this is a private organization, the RNC.

00:07:57.000 Yeah, but it's not private because there's all sorts of regulations and things about who can get on the ballot, who cannot.

00:08:04.000 For example, California is like a jungle primary in the general. 0.99

00:08:06.000 There's all sorts of rules and regulations by what parties.

00:08:09.000 Because there's many states, for example, where if I want to make it that I'm the Republican Party, only registered Republicans can vote, they still made laws that basically, if you're independent, you can vote.

00:08:18.000 Different states, different laws.

00:08:19.000 Then fair point.

00:08:20.000 Perhaps the Supreme Court does intervene for that reason, saying, The state has no authority to intervene in a private organization's electoral process.

00:08:29.000 Either way, it works.

00:08:30.000 Robert Barnes tweeted out, which I thought was kind of... He's great.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, this is probably from 5 o'clock p.m.

00:08:34.000 458.

00:08:34.000 It said, the easiest path for SCOTUS to take in the Colorado Supreme Court to trump this qualified case is to hold a court has no constitutional role in excluding a presidential candidate from the ballot in the first place.

00:08:44.000 That is a choice the Constitution gives to state legislature and Congress.

00:08:48.000 However, this is a private entity that is being affected by this.

00:08:54.000 But again, it's fair to say this is the state government intervening in a private entity.

00:09:00.000 I think there's a strong argument considering what we saw with Texas v Pennsylvania in 2020 that is a 2020 to 2021.

00:09:07.000 The Supreme Court simply says the rules for private organizations fall to the state to decide the federal government has no grounds to intervene in what and how a state decides nonprofit entities operate or public good service entities operate.

00:09:23.000 But my thoughts also go to George Santos, who, God bless him.

00:09:26.000 Have you had him on, by the way?

00:09:27.000 No.

00:09:27.000 Oh, you gotta get him on.

00:09:29.000 When there are a lot of people in the House, and I think they had a fair point, and I certainly don't have a particular lot of love for Congress people, when the Congress people are like, we can't kick him out if he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

00:09:38.000 Like, this is really crossing a line that, do you really want to go down this line where, like, we are just picking and choosing who our fellow members are?

00:09:46.000 Because that ax is going to be used against us at some point.

00:09:48.000 I agree, I agree.

00:09:49.000 But the question is, If a private entity within a state is engaging in a practice the state says no to, can the feds intervene?

00:09:59.000 There are certain circumstances.

00:10:00.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:10:01.000 I agree.

00:10:02.000 However, I do think the Democrats are going to start screaming 9th and 10th Amendment, saying the federal government has no right to tell a state they can't run their own election as they see fit.

00:10:10.000 There's no question that you're correct because the Democrats will take any, you know, opportunity.

00:10:14.000 Sure.

00:10:14.000 Like they'll be, tomorrow they'll pretend the 10th Amendment doesn't exist.

00:10:17.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:10:18.000 Yeah, of course they'll use that.

00:10:19.000 But that's the argument they'll use.

00:10:21.000 Listen, they're also making the argument that preventing you being able to vote for Trump is saving democracy.

00:10:27.000 I sort of see this as an inevitability and an inoculation, like the Supreme Court's going to make a stand and say, precedent, you cannot do it.

00:10:33.000 Let's just set the precedent and move on.

00:10:35.000 I think it's an inevitability because the regime isn't going down without a fight.

00:10:39.000 And I've been saying this for a long time.

00:10:41.000 Everyone is aware of this.

00:10:42.000 They're not just going to one day be like, you know what?

00:10:45.000 We lost.

00:10:46.000 Good game, guys.

00:10:46.000 Let's all shake hands and go home.

00:10:51.000 Or two.

00:10:51.000 Fourth quarter.

00:10:52.000 Their entire ideology is you have to tweak the rules until you get the outcome that you want.

00:10:58.000 Now in other cases that might be actually a good thing.

00:11:00.000 If we're all playing a game and somehow the game always ends up with Ian winning even though we're playing fairly, maybe the rules are kind of skewed for people's hair length.

00:11:06.000 I don't know.

00:11:06.000 You know what would be really funny?

00:11:08.000 What?

00:11:08.000 I think you're going to agree.

00:11:10.000 Will you play Trail of Pursuit with Ian?

00:11:12.000 That'd be fun.

00:11:12.000 No, that's just fun.

00:11:13.000 That would be fun.

00:11:13.000 Trail of Pursuit is fun.

00:11:16.000 Donald Trump appeals to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court rules it was an insurrection and bars him from all states.

00:11:25.000 There's no way that would happen.

00:11:26.000 I know, but it'd be hilarious.

00:11:28.000 I don't think it would be hilarious.

00:11:29.000 You don't think so?

00:11:29.000 No.

00:11:30.000 You'd get your national divorce.

00:11:33.000 The reason I use the term national divorce and not the other one is because... The other one, don't say it!

00:11:38.000 I'm not saying it because I genuinely believe It can be done peacefully or very relatively peacefully.

00:11:45.000 I am very concerned that even January 6th, a slight bit of violence or 9-11, which was a horrible tragedy and then 20 years of war in two countries had nothing to do with it.

00:11:56.000 So when you have this power establishment in place, any little bit of violence is used as an excuse by them to escalate things to the nth threshold and the average people are the ones who pay the price and that's what I'm very concerned about.

00:12:09.000 I think we were at a turning point.

00:12:11.000 Someone, was it Charlie Kirk or might have been Tucker Carl, I think it was Tucker, said that Winston Churchill in 1940 after World War II broke out, he just arrested all of the opposition party with no charge.

00:12:20.000 Abraham Lincoln arrested... No, no, Winston Churchill didn't do that.

00:12:22.000 He had a war cabinet.

00:12:24.000 Say that again?

00:12:25.000 Winston Churchill had a war cabinet with the Labor Party.

00:12:27.000 He didn't arrest the opposing cabinet.

00:12:29.000 Then Tucker Carlson was wrong.

00:12:30.000 He said that on stage, that Winston Churchill went in and arrested the opposition party, just put them all in prison.

00:12:36.000 Maybe he meant some kind of national front, but not the Labor Party.

00:12:40.000 In Maryland, you had I think it was like 29 confederates sympathetic.

00:12:45.000 Oh yeah, he arrested the legislature.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, he just went and arrested them all.

00:12:48.000 Yeah, Lincoln.

00:12:48.000 They created a corridor through Maryland to D.C.

00:12:53.000 that suspended all What's the right way to put this?

00:12:59.000 Infringed upon your God-given rights.

00:13:01.000 Well, also the idea that you can't secede except for West Virginia.

00:13:04.000 Like, that doesn't make any—you know what I mean?

00:13:05.000 That whole thing.

00:13:06.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 West Virginia is very special.

00:13:07.000 We're huge fans.

00:13:09.000 I'm curious to see what will happen if the Colorado GOP does say, okay, we're not having a primary anymore, we're moving to caucus.

00:13:16.000 RNC at the national level will come after them for that.

00:13:18.000 Because again, that's a move to keep Trump on the ballot, which I think the RNC doesn't ultimately want either.

00:13:23.000 I think Ronna McDaniel, I think Vivek's completely right.

00:13:26.000 Even if you think she's a great person, I don't know her at all.

00:13:29.000 The fact is, where are the results?

00:13:31.000 Where are the omelets?

00:13:32.000 You've broken all these eggs.

00:13:33.000 I don't see any backbone in her.

00:13:36.000 Ronna McDaniel's in the kitchen, smashing eggs with a hammer, telling you she's going to make an omelet, but she's just smashing eggs with a hammer. 1.00

00:13:41.000 What would that look like at caucus?

00:13:43.000 Stop pressuring her.

00:13:43.000 She's trying to cook.

00:13:44.000 If the Republican National Convention did a caucus, what would that mean exactly?

00:13:48.000 It's not a convention, just a Colorado state.

00:13:50.000 Like Iowa, Iowa's the first state, they have a caucus.

00:13:52.000 Basically, you get together and everyone gets up and gives a speech about why my guy's the best, and then I think you have a headcount?

00:13:56.000 I think that's how it works.

00:13:58.000 And so it's a bunch of people sitting in a room, and it's like RNC delegates and things like that.

00:14:03.000 Business donors?

00:14:04.000 People show up.

00:14:05.000 It's a lot of regular people, you show up.

00:14:07.000 And then if you're the Democrats, you take three days to figure out what the votes are.

00:14:09.000 Yeah.

00:14:11.000 But it's because these are, in a technical legal sense, these are private organizations that can run their systems as they see fit.

00:14:17.000 So when they decide superdelegates on the Democrat side to push out anybody they want to push out, it's because the game is rigged.

00:14:23.000 I also want to make the point, and I'm going to make the prediction here, and I don't think it's good.

00:14:27.000 It's the kind of prediction where people at first, like, then they think about, like, okay, this is actually a good prediction.

00:14:32.000 I think the Democrats' plan B is not Gavin Newsom.

00:14:37.000 I think the Democrats' plan B is Hillary Clinton with Newsom as VP.

00:14:40.000 So I'm staying it right here.

00:14:42.000 If they pull Biden for some reason or if he's incapacitated, they're gonna run Hillary and they'd be smart to do it.

00:14:48.000 $1,000 it will not be Hillary Clinton.

00:14:50.000 If Biden's pulled... I'm not making a real bet, I'm kidding.

00:14:53.000 I'm making a reference to... Yeah, yeah, I got you.

00:14:56.000 I felt like they were kind of teeing up Kamala Harris.

00:14:58.000 There's no way they're cutting up Kamala Harris. 0.91

00:14:58.000 You might be right. 0.91

00:15:01.000 I don't know why they would pick her, but because they're sending her on this national pro-abortion tour, she's basically already on the campaign trail.

00:15:06.000 Because they don't want her making trouble in Washington.

00:15:08.000 Yeah, they're like, stay busy.

00:15:09.000 I'm serious.

00:15:10.000 She's going on tour.

00:15:11.000 They announced one date.

00:15:12.000 They're like, we'll tell you the rest of them later.

00:15:14.000 Just get out of here! 1.00

00:15:16.000 The latest clip from her where she's like, this is the most election we've had in, you know, in our lifetimes.

00:15:22.000 And I'm just like, she meant most important, I guess.

00:15:25.000 The thing is, when your gaps are worse than Joe Biden's, it's really bad.

00:15:28.000 Can you imagine being a guy who got put, can I use the B word on the show?

00:15:28.000 Here's the other thing.

00:15:32.000 Which one is that?

00:15:33.000 B-I-T. 1.00

00:15:35.000 I don't know, I guess.

00:15:36.000 If you call someone that word, it's a little mean.

00:15:39.000 We don't care about demonetization.

00:15:40.000 The swearing is usually because, like, people might be in their living room with their kids.

00:15:42.000 And really, in general, it's about- I'll just say B. I'll say B. I'll say- I got it, I got it.

00:15:47.000 Can you imagine being some guy who's in jail in California because this witch put you in jail? 0.95

00:15:52.000 Like, you're watching, you're like, how the hell did she convince this jury?

00:15:56.000 She's just cackling at my crimes! 1.00

00:15:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:57.000 But maybe they don't recognize her because of that facelift right before she came out as VP. 0.75

00:16:01.000 Yeah, you never know.

00:16:02.000 There's a huge change.

00:16:03.000 So, I was gonna say this because there's a lot of news to get to, but Michael did bring this up.

00:16:08.000 We have this map we've talked about a couple times now.

00:16:10.000 This is the A24 Civil War movie map showing their vision of a fictional civil war.

00:16:15.000 Now, Michael, you just said you think there's a way to have a peaceful national divorce.

00:16:20.000 Yes.

00:16:21.000 I have my own map.

00:16:22.000 I disagree with you.

00:16:22.000 Who do I send it to?

00:16:24.000 You can DM me it.

00:16:25.000 I'll do that right now.

00:16:28.000 I disagree.

00:16:28.000 I don't believe it's possible to have a peaceful civil divorce.

00:16:31.000 A peaceful national divorce.

00:16:34.000 Okay, the thing about the term peaceful, and I hear what you're saying, I'm not saying literally no violence, but I'm saying it could be the kind of thing that's resolved quite quickly.

00:16:46.000 Because a lot of times, just like with nature, right, let's use another example.

00:16:50.000 You have like a big animal, like a tarsier, it's a protosimian, I saw a video, and it's trying to eat a praying mantis, which is like a hundredth of its size, and that mantis just strikes for its eyes, and then the tarsier is like, oh crap, this is a problem.

00:17:02.000 So a lot of times there's enough of pushback, people go to the negotiating table.

00:17:05.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:17:06.000 No, I'm sending it right now.

00:17:06.000 Did you send it?

00:17:07.000 So, I suppose where I don't think what you're saying in any way conflicts with what my view would be, sure, you could have a dissolution of the United States rapidly and very quickly, and then you will see a growing escalation to full-scale war at some point, and some point relatively quickly to the dissolution of the United States.

00:17:26.000 We're talking about, we already have conflict between states over resources, over food, over water. 0.96

00:17:32.000 We already have conflict over weapons.

00:17:34.000 When you consider that some states have access to nuclear weapons, there can't be a simple dissolution of these agreements.

00:17:42.000 You'd instantly have nuclear-powered countries.

00:17:45.000 Staring down and facing down other states and they might say something like your state owes us X for these past grievances and then you will instantly start to see conflict.

00:17:56.000 I don't think nuclear weapons are what we have to worry about.

00:17:58.000 I think it'll be absolutely insane considering the distribution of resources in the United States and what's a really fascinating idea that I was exploring with a creative IP I was looking at is,

00:18:10.000 as we hyper-centralize the production...

00:18:11.000 This is the bottom one. I sent you two by mistake.

00:18:13.000 As we hyper-centralize the production of various resources, like we have the frack fields in North Dakota,

00:18:20.000 you will end up with regions dominant in a singular production.

00:18:26.000 So, California's food.

00:18:27.000 We just do all our food in California, basically, like a third of our food or something like that.

00:18:31.000 You've got the frack fields in North Dakota producing more energy than any other part of the country.

00:18:35.000 Or, presumably.

00:18:36.000 And you have certain areas that are all coastal trade.

00:18:39.000 The Rust Belt.

00:18:40.000 I mean, maybe it used to be this way, but because of rail, because of freight, we've centralize these resources, it's going to be very strange if the country breaks apart and one nation or one state says, we need oil, and they start knocking on North Dakota's door, and North Dakota all of a sudden becomes one of the wealthiest states in the world, things like that.

00:19:01.000 When we were on the blaze for election night, I just sent you the, I sent it twice by mistake, that's the bottom one, we all asked, what?

00:19:08.000 This is your map?

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:11.000 That's it?

00:19:12.000 So that's my map for national divorce. 0.58

00:19:15.000 When we were on The Blaze, we all had to go around and say what we thought it would look like.

00:19:19.000 Tim, all your points are taken, and I don't think they're inaccurate at all, but I'm thinking about like North Korea and South Korea have nukes pointing at each other.

00:19:26.000 Negotiation is not going to be easy, but I always go back to Thomas Sowell, right?

00:19:31.000 And the question he asked is, as compared to what?

00:19:34.000 I think the status quo is also going to be Washington increasingly getting militaristic.

00:19:39.000 I think especially the stuff going on with schools and kids, when you have things like sanctuary states for like trans kids and things like that, what California is going to be doing.

00:19:47.000 I think parents are going to be increasingly radicalized and so on and so forth.

00:19:50.000 And at a certain point, things are going to reach ahead.

00:19:54.000 The question is, is it going to be full-blown Blitzkrieg?

00:19:59.000 Or is it going to be like something pops off and then cooler hands are like, okay, guys, this is getting crazy.

00:20:04.000 And if things get crazier, even further, it's really getting out of hand.

00:20:08.000 So we have to figure something out.

00:20:11.000 I think everything you're saying plays very well to the A24 Films map.

00:20:16.000 I just don't think... I don't see... We talked about it earlier.

00:20:19.000 Do you want to break it down?

00:20:20.000 Because I think there's some things I would tweak with this map, but... Yeah, so I think the first thing to consider is when the movie trailer first comes out, everyone says, why are Texas and California aligned and aligned?

00:20:30.000 That makes no sense.

00:20:31.000 It makes perfect sense.

00:20:31.000 It really does.

00:20:32.000 But are they aligned really?

00:20:33.000 Yes.

00:20:34.000 This map is plausible.

00:20:37.000 And what that means is, you can certainly make an argument for why you think it would not fall this way, but in terms of how they're envisioning this film and what a divided America could look like, I actually think this is very plausible.

00:20:48.000 I don't know if it's the most probable, there's a lot of arguments that we can make as political junkies, but the reason why California and Texas would be in an alliance is not because they share values, it's because neither wants to be conquered by DC.

00:21:00.000 Sure.

00:21:01.000 I think Kentucky and Tennessee are extremely close culturally, so to find that line is really kind of odd to me.

00:21:01.000 That's it.

00:21:09.000 In terms of plausibility, you could easily, like, look, when the Civil War... The other thing is just because they're too... I can't, I'm blind.

00:21:17.000 Are they aligned in that they're the same country or they're just aligned in like an alliance like the US and Canada are aligned?

00:21:22.000 The Republic of Texas and California are two different republics that have an alliance.

00:21:25.000 Oh yeah, that's very plausible.

00:21:26.000 Absolutely.

00:21:27.000 Absolutely plausible.

00:21:27.000 It's the case now.

00:21:28.000 Yes.

00:21:29.000 And you may be arguing, you know, why is, you know, Kentucky and Tennessee split military occupation by D.C.

00:21:34.000 and moved in very quickly into Kentucky to stop, or to stop the other way around.

00:21:42.000 They move into Tennessee to prevent Kentucky or vice versa.

00:21:45.000 That's just deus ex machina.

00:21:47.000 We cannot make any argument about what may happen.

00:21:50.000 The point you made was really key, and I think people do need to understand this.

00:21:52.000 If it does blow out to like full-blown violence, and I pray to God it does not, state lines become irrelevant.

00:21:57.000 Yeah, you look at geographical borders, rivers and mountains.

00:22:00.000 So the Ohio River would be one, the Mississippi River, the Rocky Mountains would be one.

00:22:04.000 This Oklahoma panhandle is not going to be a thing.

00:22:06.000 It's not possible.

00:22:07.000 And that's why actually a lot of the eastern state borders would stand.

00:22:12.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 Because a lot of them were built, were formed simply because of geography.

00:22:16.000 But I look, you know, New England is a joke, right?

00:22:19.000 This is one block.

00:22:20.000 This whole thing, it's just instantly New York and Massachusetts.

00:22:23.000 I disagree, because New Hampshire has a lot of people there and they've been planning for this.

00:22:28.000 They, it's, if you have, you have... They selected a Democrat governor, didn't they?

00:22:31.000 Yeah, but the thing is, there's a difference between intensity of opposition, right?

00:22:36.000 So if you have a cadre of like 10% of the population who are really out of their minds and really want New Hampshire to be independent, it's going to be really hard to put those down.

00:22:46.000 You know, Luke would come here all the time and advocate for us to move to New Hampshire because of the Free State Project, and I'm like, my friend, you are surrounded on all sides by leftist forces.

00:22:54.000 I will say there are, because like upstate New York and like upper Maine are different, they tend to vote red.

00:23:01.000 I mean, obviously Maine has Angus King, one of our only independents.

00:23:04.000 There are potential, like, rebel factors in there, but I just mean symbolically, like, there is a stratification within those regions.

00:23:16.000 I just don't think it's enough to say that they would be able to fight off.

00:23:19.000 I think it would be like you were saying before, like, Seattle will have this one blue center, but ultimately that region is controlled.

00:23:25.000 I think you would have discontent in New England, but I don't think it would be enough to And a Maine Democrat or even a Connecticut Democrat is not the same as an L.A.

00:23:34.000 Democrat.

00:23:35.000 Right.

00:23:35.000 At all.

00:23:36.000 I mean, honestly, I think that was more the case 10 years ago.

00:23:40.000 But as you see now with like West Virginia and you see we really don't have any Blue Dog Democrats anymore. 0.93

00:23:45.000 Correct.

00:23:46.000 So the Internet is... You know who's the one Blue Dog Democrat? 0.99

00:23:50.000 My hero, John Fetterman.

00:23:50.000 Who is it?

00:23:52.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:23:53.000 He's had the craziest 2023 story arc.

00:23:55.000 I contributed to his campaign.

00:23:58.000 I spotted this guy from a mile away.

00:23:59.000 You can't miss him.

00:24:00.000 There are funny memes of YouTube thumbnail.

00:24:03.000 The meme is a YouTube thumbnail of Federman saying why I left the left.

00:24:08.000 But in all seriousness, people are like, how did you predict this guy so well?

00:24:13.000 John Fetterman, he is one of these old school lefties who think the point of government is to help people who've been screwed over by the system, whether it's food stamps or whatever, who thinks politics can be honorable and that politicians shouldn't put themselves on a pedestal and are just like someone trying to make the world a better place.

00:24:30.000 So that old school Democrat stuff, which is almost kind of in the late 60s, That's him!

00:24:34.000 So when people are surprised that he's taking these stances, I'm like, it makes perfect sense that he'd call it corruption, because in his point, government is something that can be used to help people who have been screwed over, and that argument is one that I don't hate, and I say this as an anarchist.

00:24:47.000 There's a lot of people who, when it comes to the topic of civil war, like to point out that the entire country is red except for the cities, and that should civil war actually happen, New York, for instance, is red.

00:24:57.000 New York City would not be able to sustain itself.

00:25:00.000 But I don't... I agree with that general idea, but people don't understand that...

00:25:06.000 In Virginia, for instance, regular people going to and from work aren't going to be thinking about this.

00:25:12.000 And so long as there is a weaponized law enforcement or militaristic faction that controls trade routes, those people will be subservient and loyal to whatever the dominant violent faction is.

00:25:22.000 There's two questions that I would have to break out.

00:25:25.000 One is, and everyone says they have the answer and they don't, because you could say one thing theoretically, when S hits the fan, it's a very different situation.

00:25:33.000 No one knows what the actual military would do.

00:25:35.000 A lot of people are saying they would never fire on their own people.

00:25:37.000 Wrong. 0.99

00:25:38.000 Bullcrap. 0.97

00:25:38.000 Every country has that. 0.97

00:25:39.000 We don't know percentage though.

00:25:40.000 It could be like 100% will do it, 10%.

00:25:43.000 How do you work that?

00:25:44.000 Number two, just another point is, we don't know how effective the corporate press will be in this situation at manipulating public opinion.

00:25:51.000 I think there was a graph that came out showing the ratings from the past week.

00:25:56.000 Did you see it?

00:25:57.000 No.

00:25:57.000 Corporate press, it's apocalyptic, the numbers that are dropping.

00:26:00.000 It's really insane.

00:26:01.000 I think, like, MSNBC dropped 15% in a week or something like that.

00:26:04.000 Yeah, but just because you don't trust them, if they're the only people you listen to, you're gonna say, I hate him, but you're still gonna listen to them.

00:26:10.000 If the internet gets shut down... Yes.

00:26:13.000 And it can be... People need to understand, it is possible to disrupt the internet Very, very easily.

00:26:21.000 The internet as we know it.

00:26:23.000 It is impossible to stop internet communications, but centralized sources of information, Axis One for instance, where we go to, that's the hub.

00:26:32.000 These things can all be shut down relatively easily, and then all you have is the New York Times.

00:26:37.000 Right.

00:26:37.000 And do you believe them?

00:26:39.000 And that's what you will, that's it.

00:26:42.000 But I will say, Absolutely. 0.92

00:26:46.000 The militaries, any branch, would shoot American citizens.

00:26:50.000 And I believe, in the event of some kind of... As they have done in the past.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, I can't state.

00:26:54.000 I mean, brutal.

00:26:56.000 And I'm not arguing it was right or wrong.

00:26:59.000 You can argue, yeah, but they were throwing rocks.

00:27:00.000 I'm like, oh, they shot Americans.

00:27:01.000 It happened.

00:27:02.000 Like, they opened fire and the guy got one, four dead.

00:27:05.000 One guy got shot in the hand.

00:27:06.000 As if there wouldn't, in this situation, be plenty of false flags.

00:27:09.000 Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

00:27:10.000 And I want to drive this point home.

00:27:12.000 The most dangerous thing, I think, our country faces is not the Clintons.

00:27:17.000 It's not the Democrats.

00:27:18.000 It's not the neolibs.

00:27:19.000 It's not the neocons.

00:27:20.000 It's not Trump.

00:27:21.000 It's not Trump.

00:27:21.000 Certainly not Trump.

00:27:22.000 Trump's one of the more positive forces, in my opinion.

00:27:24.000 It is one simple thing the biggest threat this country faces.

00:27:28.000 It is the men and women of law enforcement And the armed forces who hold the ethos, I should just do my job.

00:27:36.000 The most dangerous thing imaginable.

00:27:37.000 Okay, I have just done my job, so I should probably leave.

00:27:40.000 Because that's the song I've been singing.

00:27:42.000 I know!

00:27:43.000 I'm not saying you don't know, but I'm just saying it's just delightful for me to hear someone who is much more mainstream in his views and more moderate than I, to see very clearly this is what it comes down to.

00:27:54.000 You call me mainstream, but...

00:27:56.000 I mean, you're not a... In between the far-fringe, far-right Michael Malice's and the corporate press, maybe.

00:28:00.000 Sure, sure.

00:28:01.000 We talked about this with Owen Schroyer.

00:28:03.000 He said when he... Yeah, talk about a martyr.

00:28:05.000 When he went to prison, there were prison guards saying, hey, I'm familiar with your work, I'm actually a fan, but I'm just doing my job, man.

00:28:12.000 I would have looked him in the eye and say, you are the evil I'm fighting against.

00:28:14.000 Yes.

00:28:15.000 If these prison guards went to their bosses and said, I am putting a hand on Owen Schroeder and I'm not going to have any party to what you're doing to him, you find somebody else.

00:28:23.000 And if they said, I will fire you, my response would be, my paycheck is not worth my soul.

00:28:29.000 But do you think that's... But they all just said, I don't care, I'll lock up a guy I like because I get my paycheck.

00:28:35.000 In that voice.

00:28:35.000 In that exact voice.

00:28:37.000 These are live audio recordings.

00:28:39.000 I have the documents.

00:28:41.000 But do you think part of it is that we are a country or people without clearly defined values?

00:28:45.000 I think people don't really know what they stand for for it.

00:28:48.000 So it's easy to say, well, I just have to stand by my paycheck.

00:28:50.000 I think conservatives very much advocate, and this is not generally a wrong thing.

00:28:54.000 I think this is actually a good rule in general, to play by the rules And be a good person and not be a troublemaker.

00:29:01.000 But they apply that literally 100% of the time.

00:29:03.000 And sometimes you want to make trouble because otherwise the trouble's here already.

00:29:06.000 I just want to point out real quick, when you search Google for US Civil War, the fourth story is Trump barred from Colorado primary ballot for role in US Capitol attack.

00:29:16.000 So, and that's from one hour ago.

00:29:18.000 So, you have Civil War history.

00:29:20.000 Never Trump vs. Gary for Civil War.

00:29:21.000 Here's the other thing.

00:29:22.000 First of all, what role did he have, even allegedly?

00:29:25.000 He said, go over there peacefully and make your voice heard.

00:29:28.000 This is First Amendment stuff.

00:29:29.000 And then he said, respect law enforcement.

00:29:31.000 We respect law enforcement.

00:29:32.000 Everyone should go home. 0.99

00:29:34.000 He's crazy. 1.00

00:29:35.000 He was out of control assembling a crowd. 0.99

00:29:38.000 I don't like the Democrats and what they're doing.

00:29:40.000 There's a lot of Republicans I also don't like, but there's a handful that are okay.

00:29:44.000 But none of that terrifies me.

00:29:46.000 What terrifies me is police officers, U.S.

00:29:51.000 servicemen and women, and prison guards who know they're standing alongside the devil.

00:29:59.000 And you can call that figurative or literal.

00:30:00.000 If you are someone of faith, you view it as literal.

00:30:03.000 I view it as literal.

00:30:04.000 You can view it as spiritual or as pragmatic.

00:30:08.000 I'm saying quite literally.

00:30:10.000 When I heard that from Owen Schroyer, These prison guards may as well have been the demons fighting alongside Satan himself.

00:30:19.000 They know what they're doing is wrong.

00:30:21.000 They know they're on the side of evil, and they don't care.

00:30:24.000 And here's the other thing.

00:30:25.000 It'd be one thing, they got a family to feed. 0.96

00:30:28.000 If they tried looking for other jobs, nothing came up, and it's like, look.

00:30:32.000 It's either this or my kids starve.

00:30:35.000 That's fine.

00:30:35.000 But they haven't tried looking for other jobs.

00:30:37.000 And the other thing is I've modulated my views on the police a little bit because I've spent way too much time watching police body cam footage on YouTube.

00:30:46.000 And apparently now snuff films are a thing.

00:30:48.000 You just go on YouTube and watch people get murdered.

00:30:50.000 There are channels dedicated to nothing but.

00:30:52.000 And a lot of times you you respect the police a lot more because they're dealing with an absolute maniac who's just and they have to be like sir or ma'am and it's just like I feel like this is your job I feel for you but then there's videos of some mentally disabled guy having a problem at Target with the self-checkout and they're just manhandling him and the guy's

00:31:11.000 like in this voice being like, I didn't do anything and I'm like, if you're putting your

00:31:16.000 hands on someone who is mentally disabled or elderly or a child because they're having a 0.99

00:31:19.000 problem with the cashier, yeah, why did Target call this begin with? Okay, it's a separate question

00:31:23.000 and you can look at yourself in the mirror, you are a demon. I mean, this is why the country is 0.98

00:31:28.000 falling apart. You have many of these leftists and Democrats that want to abolish the police but

00:31:33.000 I mean, I think the fair point is- No, they want to abolish policing.

00:31:36.000 That's the thing.

00:31:36.000 You and I want to abolish the... Hold on, let me say one thing.

00:31:38.000 We want to abolish the police in that we don't want a government monopoly, but they don't want people to be put in jail.

00:31:44.000 Well, I actually disagree.

00:31:45.000 My point I was going to make is they will actually say whatever they need to say.

00:31:48.000 Oh, sure.

00:31:49.000 That's fair.

00:31:49.000 I'm sorry.

00:31:50.000 Yes.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, they'll say today, these police are evil, then when the cops come and mercilessly beat you, they'll laugh while it happens.

00:31:55.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

00:31:56.000 When the cops arrest Derek Chauvin, they clap and cheer.

00:31:58.000 Look at Jimmy, okay, here's another example.

00:31:59.000 Look at Jimmy Kimmel, who's crying because his kid was sick, and I don't watch this on almost anybody, and my heart goes out to that kid, and then he's literally laughing, like, you didn't get vaccinated, you go to the hospital, and you're not getting treatment?

00:32:12.000 Sorry, coffee!

00:32:13.000 And the audience laughs.

00:32:13.000 Yep.

00:32:14.000 And it's just like, you're a demon. 0.98

00:32:16.000 Yeah, I'm done defending these people. 0.98

00:32:19.000 I'm not going to say anything about his child.

00:32:21.000 I'm done defending them or saying anything nice about them.

00:32:23.000 I had this view in the 2010s about free speech, where I was like, we have to defend free speech, even for the people that we don't like, because that's the point of free speech.

00:32:33.000 And so you had these leftists and these woke people saying, no free speech.

00:32:36.000 Then they would get censored, and I'd come out, along with everyone else, and say, unban them.

00:32:41.000 That was wrong.

00:32:41.000 We believe in free speech.

00:32:42.000 They would get unbanned and say, thank you.

00:32:45.000 Immediately then go, now ban them.

00:32:47.000 And then I had the realization, you know what?

00:32:49.000 Free speech extends to those who believe in free speech.

00:32:53.000 End of story.

00:32:54.000 If these people come out and they cry, what about my free speech?

00:32:57.000 I'll say, you don't deserve it because you don't want it.

00:32:59.000 I will give you exactly what you ask for.

00:33:01.000 If they start banning people who believe in free speech, I will advocate for their free speech, but I will not defend people who are trying to burn it to the ground.

00:33:07.000 When Frank Herbert had this great quote in Dune, he goes, when I'm weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles.

00:33:14.000 And when I'm stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.

00:33:17.000 Exactly.

00:33:17.000 That's exactly the thing.

00:33:19.000 I've never been for free speech.

00:33:20.000 I hate that term.

00:33:21.000 I've always thought freedom of association is much more important than free speech.

00:33:25.000 If you want to go talk in some closet and have your own microphone, that's fine.

00:33:28.000 But there's plenty of reasons why I don't want you on my platform.

00:33:31.000 I don't want to be associated with you.

00:33:33.000 If only because you're just obnoxious to bring nothing to the table.

00:33:35.000 Let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial.

00:33:37.000 California moves to explore every legal option to get Trump off the 2024 ballot by December 28th.

00:33:45.000 Guys!

00:33:46.000 Okay, Michael.

00:33:47.000 I'm going on vacation, right?

00:33:50.000 We wrap Friday, and then I'm gone.

00:33:52.000 We gotta get one week out of the year, and they're trying to make Trump kicked off the ballot during my vacation?

00:33:57.000 What am I gonna do?

00:33:58.000 They knew you were leaving, and they're like, this is our time!

00:34:00.000 But hold on, here's something else that's interesting.

00:34:02.000 There's something to think about. 0.95

00:34:04.000 I don't think Gavin Newsom is dumb.

00:34:05.000 I think he is strategic in many ways. 0.73

00:34:08.000 There's zero chance Trump wins California.

00:34:12.000 So this is clearly them building steps for the future because he's not at all concerned Trump is going to get California's electoral votes.

00:34:21.000 But that's not what it's about.

00:34:22.000 It's about 10 million Republican votes in California that count towards Trump's general election.

00:34:27.000 And so what's going to happen is Donald Trump will win the electoral college with 50 million to Joe Biden or whoever is 70 million.

00:34:34.000 Then the Democrats will come out screaming being like, ladies and gentlemen, The man who is currently giving the nuclear football does not represent this country.

00:34:44.000 They say that now with the Senate.

00:34:46.000 Of course.

00:34:46.000 Like, oh, it's not fair that West Virginia has the same number of senators as California.

00:34:51.000 Well, it actually is fair.

00:34:52.000 They each have equal numbers.

00:34:53.000 Because they're states.

00:34:54.000 That's why they did it that way.

00:34:56.000 That was literally the point.

00:34:57.000 As they know.

00:34:59.000 So I think... You know what it is?

00:35:01.000 I'm sorry, one more thing, Tim.

00:35:03.000 The thing about free speech, free speech is great if people are arguing in good faith.

00:35:08.000 But there's a difference between someone who's just a leftist that has progressive views and there's lots of people and there's many strong arguments for progressivism.

00:35:14.000 Things like this, that are being done on political, government level, are not being done in good faith.

00:35:19.000 That's the difference.

00:35:20.000 This is the bigger issue with getting Trump's name off the ballot.

00:35:23.000 Removing him from the primaries on Super Tuesday.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, they don't think Trump will win a general election.

00:35:29.000 They would strip him of popular vote totals, but more importantly, they remove Trump from the ballot before the primary, Nikki Haley is the nominee.

00:35:38.000 But also, they can this way, just say, look, if you're a member of the NRA, you're an insurrectionist.

00:35:43.000 You can't run for office.

00:35:44.000 Yeah.

00:35:45.000 It's just that easy.

00:35:47.000 I, look, I just don't see any future that doesn't involve If it's not a civil war, it's a totalitarian revolution of some sort.

00:35:56.000 It's a Bolshevik revolution. 0.71

00:35:58.000 I strongly disagree with those two things on the table.

00:36:00.000 I'm not saying only.

00:36:01.000 Oh, okay.

00:36:02.000 I'm sorry.

00:36:02.000 Okay.

00:36:03.000 I'm saying, like, there is no return to normalcy.

00:36:07.000 But it was never normal.

00:36:08.000 We were just brainwashed to thinking it was normal.

00:36:11.000 I understand that, but we had a period.

00:36:12.000 What I mean is, for those of us between the ages of, you know, let's just say 20 and 40, We had a system that is gone.

00:36:22.000 Yes, correct.

00:36:23.000 And what we are going into will be 100 times more extreme and more tumultuous than anything we've experienced.

00:36:28.000 I agree with that completely.

00:36:30.000 And that's a good thing.

00:36:30.000 I think that's necessary.

00:36:31.000 I think you need the enema to get rid of the poop.

00:36:33.000 Yeah, it could be a short-term, relatively short-term bout of chaos.

00:36:38.000 No, I don't think short-term.

00:36:39.000 Well, you got to define.

00:36:40.000 It could be 15 years.

00:36:41.000 That's pretty long-term.

00:36:42.000 That would be short-term in my opinion.

00:36:44.000 Well, the Civil War is only four.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, but I mean, I'm talking like real global chaos.

00:36:47.000 The American Revolution was 20, is that long term?

00:36:49.000 Was 20?

00:36:49.000 The American Revolutionary Period was 20 years, yeah.

00:36:53.000 Well, the period, not the whole war.

00:36:56.000 But the war, I think the idea of the Revolutionary War is less meaningful than the Revolutionary Period.

00:37:00.000 Yes, that's fair.

00:37:01.000 The Boston Tea Party, like, redcoats were killing people before there was a war. 1.00

00:37:06.000 Yes, that's fair.

00:37:07.000 So, we talk about the war, but the revolutionary period was 20 years.

00:37:11.000 And, um, the, uh, what is it?

00:37:13.000 The first battle of the revolutionary war took place a year and a few months before the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

00:37:18.000 It's funny that a lot of people think the signing of the Declaration started the revolution.

00:37:22.000 It's like...

00:37:23.000 It's because they get it in a history textbook, and I'm not going to fault anyone for this, where it's all stacked on top of each other.

00:37:29.000 It's very hard to conceptualize.

00:37:30.000 The narrative makes more sense that way.

00:37:32.000 That's sort of true.

00:37:35.000 History is condensed, but no, I think the reality is people just don't read history.

00:37:39.000 They hear, what do we know?

00:37:41.000 The holiday, July 4th.

00:37:42.000 Why?

00:37:42.000 Because in 1776 they signed the Declaration of Independence.

00:37:44.000 Do you know what the actual date of the signing was?

00:37:47.000 The what?

00:37:47.000 The Declaration of Independence?

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.000 No, what?

00:37:49.000 The second.

00:37:50.000 Was it?

00:37:50.000 Yeah.

00:37:50.000 And then, it may have actually been before that.

00:37:53.000 I believe it was the second and then it took... Two days to get everyone to sign it?

00:37:58.000 I don't even know.

00:37:58.000 No, I think it was signed on the second and then it was not in circulation and publicly known until the fourth.

00:38:04.000 I could be wrong, but something like that.

00:38:06.000 If you read books, you would think that there's only two genders and no scientist thinks this anymore. 0.99

00:38:11.000 Not the ones that are allowed to practice.

00:38:12.000 Sorry, I just want to mess with the chat room.

00:38:15.000 But anyway, back to what's going on with California.

00:38:20.000 Let me ask you, if Trump is removed from these ballots, Nikki Haley?

00:38:29.000 I don't think Trump getting removed from the ballots, then it's just like, well, we're just going to go ahead with the election and it's whatever plan B is for the Republicans.

00:38:39.000 That's not how it works.

00:38:40.000 I think things are going to get very, very ugly, very, very quickly.

00:38:44.000 I will be paying Roseanne in that circumstance.

00:38:46.000 I don't know what it would look like.

00:38:49.000 We've got to get into this, but you may have to pay her. 0.99

00:38:52.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:38:54.000 We'll get into that.

00:38:55.000 We're looking for a way out of this.

00:38:57.000 For those that aren't familiar, Roseanne said on this show, how long ago was that?

00:39:01.000 A few months ago?

00:39:01.000 March.

00:39:02.000 March, wow, a long time ago.

00:39:03.000 Roseanne said it, wow, I can't believe how long it's been.

00:39:05.000 I think so.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, Roseanne said that she didn't think there'd be an election.

00:39:08.000 There are two bets we made.

00:39:09.000 That's right.

00:39:10.000 Military tribunals.

00:39:11.000 Everyone remembers the second bet.

00:39:13.000 They're all forgetting the first bet.

00:39:15.000 I think you won the first one. 1.00

00:39:16.000 Yeah, no shit. 0.99

00:39:17.000 What did she say? 1.00

00:39:20.000 She said there'd be mass arrests by the end of the year.

00:39:22.000 Yeah, that's not happening.

00:39:23.000 But hold on, hold on.

00:39:24.000 We have a couple weeks left, right?

00:39:26.000 No, no, hold on.

00:39:27.000 She said Trump would, there'll be military tribunals, and I'm like, you're saying Trump will have people arrested?

00:39:31.000 Like, or the Democrats are gonna arrest people?

00:39:33.000 I'll take either.

00:39:34.000 If either case, I'll give her $1,000.

00:39:36.000 If the Democrats have mass arrests, she wins, fine.

00:39:38.000 That's true too.

00:39:39.000 In the next week.

00:39:40.000 Okay, well, that's not zero percent.

00:39:41.000 That's not zero.

00:39:42.000 It's not zero, no, no, no, it's not zero.

00:39:44.000 I'm not saying it's zero.

00:39:45.000 But anyway.

00:39:46.000 Someone also bet me that Trump, my buddy who's a failed podcaster, Tom Woods,

00:39:50.000 someone on Twitter bet me $500 that Trump would be reinstated in the White House by

00:39:56.000 January 1st, 2020.

00:39:57.000 Not 2025, meaning they would overturn the 2020 election and have Trump in the White House by 2024.

00:40:05.000 Now, there's a non-zero chance that'll happen next week, but I'm looking— That's zero.

00:40:10.000 Right, the idea that Democrats would arrest people, they've already arrested Trump and Trump's legal team and his lawyers and other people involved, so the idea that the Democrats would stage mass arrests is like, maybe like .05.

00:40:20.000 Yeah, that's fair.

00:40:21.000 But the idea that Trump has reinstated is like, okay fine, it's in the realm of physical reality.

00:40:27.000 But like we're talking zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one percent, right?

00:40:32.000 It would be more likely that like the Secretary of Commerce becomes president like everyone else gets knocked off Yeah, it'd be more likely that the plot of Designated Survivor happens line for line.

00:40:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:40:44.000 Yes, I just can't No.

00:40:47.000 I like that show, but it went off the rails so quickly.

00:40:49.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:40:49.000 I didn't watch it.

00:40:50.000 I just know the general premise.

00:40:51.000 Like, everybody dies but him, and they're like, your president.

00:40:53.000 He's like, why?

00:40:54.000 He's like, King Ralph.

00:40:55.000 You're like, 200th in line, so you're in charge.

00:40:57.000 Because you're here.

00:40:58.000 It's like, well, you're here.

00:40:59.000 I guess that makes it you.

00:41:01.000 And here we go.

00:41:03.000 So what do you think?

00:41:03.000 You think that if California actually makes the move as well?

00:41:06.000 Well, they are making the move.

00:41:07.000 I know, right.

00:41:08.000 But I'm saying like... But what have moves have they taken?

00:41:11.000 Did Gavin just call it?

00:41:12.000 No, no, no.

00:41:13.000 The Lieutenant Governor said Trump should be removed for the same reason.

00:41:16.000 Okay.

00:41:16.000 And it was really funny because she said, everyone knows you have to be 40 years old and cannot have staged an insurrection or whatever.

00:41:23.000 And everyone's like, neither of those are true.

00:41:26.000 The fascinating thing about Colorado's ruling, the Supreme Court of Colorado, is that Article 3 of the 14th Amendment actually does not include the President, and they even said it in their ruling.

00:41:37.000 They said, it's just self-evident.

00:41:39.000 That's not how the law works!

00:41:41.000 You don't get to be like, well, the law doesn't say we can arrest you, but we think they intended that.

00:41:45.000 It's pretty obvious, right?

00:41:46.000 You're under arrest.

00:41:48.000 The law is whatever those in power decide the law is.

00:41:50.000 Yes.

00:41:51.000 As people are learning.

00:41:52.000 Steve Deese is really good about this.

00:41:53.000 He goes, this has always been, I was shocked that someone who's a conservative and not anarchist can be like, this is a country of will and not laws and it always has been.

00:42:00.000 Absolutely.

00:42:00.000 That's the anarchist perspective.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, the idea that free speech existed in this country at any point is laughable.

00:42:06.000 The Sedition Act.

00:42:08.000 President Adams, we're arresting journalists for criticizing the government.

00:42:11.000 And not just that, we had obscenity laws.

00:42:13.000 George Carlin got arrested for swearing.

00:42:14.000 Yes.

00:42:15.000 So if you want to make arguments about the limits of free speech, it's been better than it's been in a long time.

00:42:21.000 And it's not a function of the Constitution, which has not changed.

00:42:24.000 It's been a function of the culture, which is always more important than any piece of paper.

00:42:27.000 That's why we make, you know, songs.

00:42:29.000 Yes.

00:42:29.000 That's why we make skate videos.

00:42:31.000 That's why it's so important what The Daily Wire is doing.

00:42:33.000 And you know, a lot of people I hear will say things like, oh, I want to get involved in the fights, I'm going to do a podcast.

00:42:39.000 And I'm like, well, I got to be honest, like, we probably got too many of those.

00:42:42.000 You know, some may be better than others.

00:42:43.000 But what we need is music, video games, and TV shows, movies, comedy.

00:42:48.000 You know why it's important?

00:42:49.000 Because there has to be as little or no social cost for opting out.

00:42:54.000 If you have alternatives where I can play video games, like Gamergate, I just want to play video games, where I can play video games and get action figures and get laid and watch programs and not be involved with their whole edifice, then we've won.

00:43:09.000 That's the plan, man!

00:43:10.000 And I think it's happening.

00:43:11.000 Don't you think it's happening more and more?

00:43:12.000 I agree, I agree.

00:43:13.000 I think with the major boycotts we saw of this year, with Disney's failures... Do you not think... Hold on, let me interrupt.

00:43:19.000 Do you not think it's hilarious that John Fetterman handed over a case of Bud Light to whoever it was?

00:43:26.000 Was that not funny?

00:43:27.000 Well, what do you think about the Bud Light thing right now?

00:43:29.000 What's happening now?

00:43:30.000 Well, so right now Kid Rocka said it's over.

00:43:32.000 He said we gave them a black eye.

00:43:33.000 It's what they deserved.

00:43:35.000 I think we're good. 0.99

00:43:36.000 Joe Rogan laughed, said it was stupid, and then bought several cases of Bud Light out and drank them with some comedians, like Shane Gillis, I think. 0.97

00:43:43.000 They posted a photo of it. 0.97

00:43:44.000 And Dana White says they're aligned with you more than you realize, and everyone who believes in this country should go out and buy Bud Light.

00:43:54.000 Matt Walsh has come out and said, no, the boycott is still on.

00:43:56.000 Hold the line.

00:43:59.000 Don't understand the point of pulling a boycott?

00:44:03.000 Let's take something out of this in an unpolitical way.

00:44:07.000 Do you have any siblings, Ian?

00:44:08.000 Yeah, two.

00:44:09.000 Brother or sister?

00:44:09.000 Two brothers.

00:44:10.000 Okay, let's suppose I'm on a podcast and I say an insulting thing about your brother as a dumb joke. 0.66

00:44:15.000 And you come to me and go, you shouldn't have said that hurt his feelings.

00:44:17.000 And I felt bad about it.

00:44:18.000 And I'd be like, you know what?

00:44:19.000 That was screwed up.

00:44:20.000 I'm sorry.

00:44:21.000 I would apologize to you.

00:44:23.000 I would ask your brother for an apology.

00:44:24.000 And I'd be like, here's what I'm going to do.

00:44:26.000 I'm going to keep his name out of my mouth for the future because I don't want to hurt his feelings.

00:44:28.000 He didn't deserve that.

00:44:29.000 In that case, you would accept my apology because you know what? 1.00

00:44:31.000 I made a stupid joke. 0.98

00:44:32.000 I didn't mean it. 0.99

00:44:34.000 Harm was done and it was resolved.

00:44:35.000 Maybe I'd give him like a say, hey, buy beer on my behalf, right?

00:44:39.000 To forgive someone, they have to apologize and acknowledge what they did wrong and own it.

00:44:44.000 Maybe.

00:44:44.000 Let me give you another scenario.

00:44:45.000 In my opinion.

00:44:45.000 Do you have any siblings?

00:44:47.000 Yes.

00:44:48.000 A sister.

00:44:48.000 Which is terrible.

00:44:50.000 Okay, so Ian praises your sister.

00:44:54.000 You got out there pretty creative.

00:44:55.000 What have I done?

00:44:55.000 No, no, no.

00:44:57.000 For real.

00:44:58.000 So you insult Ian's brother and Ian says, hey, you shouldn't have done that.

00:45:02.000 That was mean and you shouldn't say it.

00:45:04.000 So you go, okay.

00:45:06.000 Give your brother $100 on me, and $100 to you, we'll be done with it.

00:45:11.000 Should he say, okay?

00:45:12.000 Or should he be like, no, I don't want your money.

00:45:13.000 I want your apology.

00:45:14.000 I think it depends on our relationship.

00:45:16.000 If he can tell I really do feel bad, and also I'm giving you just go buy dinner on me, then that's different.

00:45:20.000 No apology.

00:45:21.000 You just say, you just privately say, okay, well how about I give you $100 and we'll call it square.

00:45:25.000 I would take that apology.

00:45:26.000 My integrity is not worth $100.

00:45:27.000 I'd be like, keep your money, and you don't have to say anything about my brother, but I know who you are now.

00:45:31.000 And the apology acknowledges that there was wrong done.

00:45:33.000 Yes, that's the thing, you have to be explicit.

00:45:34.000 Cash is saying, please stop talking about this.

00:45:36.000 Yeah, go away. 0.99

00:45:37.000 I'm paying you, go away.

00:45:37.000 Here's my concern right now.

00:45:38.000 Let's ask Ian what he thinks.

00:45:40.000 It was your brother.

00:45:42.000 Outside of the brother analogy, I understand your point.

00:45:44.000 The concern I have with the Bud Light thing is, you've lost Joe Rogan, you've lost Kid Rock, you've lost Dana White.

00:45:51.000 And we have seen some political gains.

00:45:53.000 I don't really care about platitudes.

00:45:55.000 So what have we seen?

00:45:56.000 $100 million goes to UFC.

00:45:59.000 You end up with people like Sean Strickland coming out saying... I'll just tell you what he said.

00:46:05.000 He said that trans people should not be accepted by society.

00:46:11.000 I don't like that either.

00:46:13.000 He said a bunch of things that you can't say on YouTube.

00:46:16.000 And he said, sponsored by Bud Light, he also just tweeted that January 6th is the most patriotic thing that this country has done in a long time.

00:46:23.000 That's better.

00:46:24.000 This is a guy who was saying, thank you Bud Light for sponsoring my speech and allowing me to say this.

00:46:29.000 I view that as on par with what they did with Dylan Mulvaney.

00:46:33.000 So it's sort of a neutralizing force in a certain degree.

00:46:36.000 But my bigger concern is, if the catalyzing forces of the boycott have basically bowed out, That means you've lost a few generals.

00:46:44.000 Sure.

00:46:44.000 What's going to happen is come April, the wraparound for year-to-year profits is going to hit, Bud Light's going to report earnings, they're going to see a net positive gain because it's a year-over-year, their stock has already recovered, they're going to declare victory over the boycott.

00:46:56.000 So what I'm saying is either you join with the likes of Joe Rogan and Kid Rock, Dana White and Sean Strickland and say, ha ha ha, we've won, declare victory over your enemies, But, or, if you do want to maintain the boycott and double down, you need an advancing strategy.

00:47:13.000 How are you going to get them to apologize?

00:47:15.000 I can't remember who was tweeting about this.

00:47:18.000 Who was tweeting about this?

00:47:18.000 They said, we would need to see, I think it might have been James Lindsay, testimony before Congress as to how this happened.

00:47:25.000 Have Republicans call them in and say, what was this that caused damage to the shareholders?

00:47:29.000 Victory in lawsuits.

00:47:31.000 But the idea that we simply just don't do anything, And that's what a boycott is.

00:47:36.000 We don't buy their product and we just go on with our lives, I think, is not an option.

00:47:40.000 So there's been a divide in this.

00:47:42.000 Many people saying, hold the line, keep the boycott up.

00:47:45.000 And I say, OK, what's the next plan?

00:47:46.000 What's the next move?

00:47:47.000 Because if you do nothing, they'll take back the battlefield.

00:47:50.000 I agree, broadly speaking, but I'm just going to make one point.

00:47:52.000 I know people are going to melt down.

00:47:54.000 I don't think what Bud Light did is as bad as what some of these other companies are doing.

00:47:59.000 Like, when you're talking, okay, it's a trans influencer, we made a custom can for Dilma

00:48:04.000 Levine, great, that's one thing.

00:48:05.000 Well, that wasn't the issue.

00:48:06.000 Well, hold on, just one more thing.

00:48:07.000 When you have things like Target with tucking panties for kids, like that's a major...

00:48:12.000 But Target's so much harder for people to get a boycott for.

00:48:14.000 That also did not happen.

00:48:15.000 But it happened, then please, educate me.

00:48:17.000 The tucking was for adults.

00:48:19.000 Still, the concern is that they have all of this stuff front and center and available for children to see.

00:48:24.000 And they had gender neutral swimwear.

00:48:25.000 I apologize to Target, that's a bad example.

00:48:32.000 I want to speak correctly, so I don't want to be like Target.

00:48:35.000 I'm glad that you corrected me.

00:48:37.000 What I'm saying is there's other organizations that do things that are far more malevolent than take someone who's already an influencer and make them a one-off thing.

00:48:45.000 And I gotta correct you on Bud Light.

00:48:47.000 It wasn't that Dylan Mulvaney got a can, it's that Dylan Mulvaney was hired and paid $180,000 to promote Bud Light and a contest they were doing.

00:48:56.000 I'm just saying it's important because... I'm saying people think that you could go to Walmart and get a Dylan Mulvaney can.

00:49:00.000 You could not have done that.

00:49:01.000 It was a custom can just for Dylan.

00:49:03.000 But that's not what anyone's mad about.

00:49:05.000 The corporate press claimed that was the cause of the boycott.

00:49:08.000 It was not.

00:49:09.000 The cause of the boycott was that Dylan Mulvaney grabbed a stack of Bud Light, Put them on a table and said, everyone buy Bud Light and use this hashtag to win a contest.

00:49:17.000 Hashtag whatever, I don't know, March Madness or something.

00:49:20.000 Was paid, according to some reports, $180,000 and Dill Mulvaney's audience is children.

00:49:26.000 So people were like, why are they promoting this gender ideology stuff and why are they promoting it to children?

00:49:30.000 The media then immediately ran out and said, Bud Light gave a custom can to one person and the right lost their mind to obfuscate and lie about what happened.

00:49:37.000 Fair.

00:49:38.000 My point is, there are many such cases where they are targeting children, not via somebody, but directly.

00:49:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:44.000 And, like, when you have these publishers who are publishing these books that have pornographic content for kids, they are, to me, are much more malevolent than some Dylan Mulvaney thing.

00:49:53.000 There's a big story right now.

00:49:54.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:49:55.000 Daily Wire's tweeting about it.

00:49:56.000 Edwin Woten has tweeted it.

00:49:57.000 It's a Cocoa Melon, is that what it's called?

00:49:59.000 Where it's an interracial gay couple singing to their son who's dancing in girls' clothing. 1.00

00:50:03.000 And so, you know, Daily Wire, of course, saying this is why we made Bent Key.

00:50:07.000 We'll talk about that in the members-only show so we can get more in-depth because I do want to get back to the politics that's going on.

00:50:12.000 Can I say one more thing?

00:50:13.000 It's also important in terms of boycotts and things like this to pick your battles because it's much more useful to take down someone who is both much more evil and who you can win than someone who is just like water for ducks back.

00:50:25.000 My view on Bud Light is- And I hate- I don't understand how anyone drinks Bud Light to begin with.

00:50:29.000 It makes me feel like a snob.

00:50:30.000 And like, I'm not gonna buy it.

00:50:31.000 You know, like, we don't even buy sodas.

00:50:33.000 We buy the Spindrift because it's like 17 calories fruit juices.

00:50:36.000 Yeah, I've got my Dr. Pepper Zero.

00:50:37.000 That's disgusting.

00:50:38.000 It's my primary method of hydration.

00:50:40.000 I'm not kidding at all.

00:50:42.000 My pee is jet black.

00:50:45.000 Let's jump to the politics, let's get back to the primary discussion.

00:50:48.000 We've got this!

00:50:49.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to say this unequivocally.

00:50:54.000 Ron DeSantis has disqualified himself.

00:50:56.000 There is no circumstance in which I will vote for this man.

00:50:58.000 What are you, Gavin Newsom?

00:50:59.000 You gonna get him off the ballot?

00:51:01.000 No, no, he can do whatever he wants.

00:51:03.000 Take a look at this video, let me play it for you, and you can hear it for yourself.

00:51:06.000 Do we have audio cued up?

00:51:08.000 And real quick, fellow GOP 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy saying he will remove himself from the Colorado ballot unless Trump's eligibility is restored.

00:51:17.000 Would you do the same?

00:51:20.000 No, I think that's just playing into the left.

00:51:23.000 I think the case will get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots, I'm competing in all the states, and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary.

00:51:32.000 That's the whole name of the game in this situation.

00:51:34.000 But I do anticipate that that decision was political and will get reversed.

00:51:40.000 Alright, Governor Ron- For that, he has disqualified himself.

00:51:42.000 Do you know what Vivek is really, really good at?

00:51:45.000 Vivek is really good- maybe this- he's read too much Robert Greene, 48 Laws of Power.

00:51:49.000 He's really good at making these bold power moves and forcing everyone else to react to what he's doing.

00:51:54.000 That, to me, is political strategy at its finest.

00:51:56.000 We have to address this.

00:51:57.000 Ron DeSantis says that's playing into the left.

00:52:00.000 It literally makes no sense.

00:52:00.000 That makes no sense.

00:52:01.000 Makes no sense.

00:52:02.000 If the move of the left is to remove Donald Trump so that someone else wins the primary, Ron said, I know what they did is political, and I have secured the delegates and that's the game.

00:52:11.000 And if you want to be really pedantic, the California Supreme Court and the left are not synonymous because there's lots of leftists.

00:52:16.000 Colorado Supreme Court.

00:52:17.000 Sorry, Colorado.

00:52:18.000 There's lots of leftists who are, I know like people on Twitter freak out, there's lots of leftists who are pro-democracy in this sense who find this unconscionable.

00:52:26.000 I will call out, look, Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:52:30.000 is not a right-winger.

00:52:31.000 He's like, this is crazy.

00:52:32.000 Tucker Carlson said on IRL on Monday at TPUSA that the people representing Ron DeSantis online are some of the nastiest zero-sum people he's ever seen. 0.74

00:52:43.000 And instantly they all lose their minds.

00:52:45.000 Can you name names?

00:52:46.000 Because who's he referring to?

00:52:48.000 Well, because someone I'm friends with, like Laura Loomer, I like Laura, right?

00:52:52.000 She goes for the juggler every time. 1.00

00:52:55.000 Does she work for Trump?

00:52:56.000 No, no.

00:52:57.000 Christina Pesceau.

00:52:59.000 She's Ron's second-in-command.

00:52:59.000 Okay.

00:53:00.000 Sure.

00:53:01.000 She on the internet behaves as though she and Laura Loomer are the exact same person doing the exact same thing.

00:53:07.000 Okay. 0.96

00:53:08.000 And now at first I said, now hold on there just gosh darn minute.

00:53:12.000 In that voice. 0.95

00:53:13.000 Laura Loomer is just a fan of Trump.

00:53:15.000 Right.

00:53:16.000 And Christina Bashaw is Ron's second-in-command.

00:53:19.000 For what reason is the press campaign, press secretary, and second-in-command arguing with fans of Donald Trump?

00:53:26.000 And that's the world they live in.

00:53:29.000 At first I said, this doesn't reflect on DeSantis in terms of the nastiness of his supporters online, but the fact that he won't fire them absolutely does.

00:53:37.000 So when Tucker said, it doesn't reflect on Ron, but these people are bad, it absolutely does.

00:53:42.000 Why won't he fire Redfern, Griffin, and Pasha?

00:53:44.000 If Ian was on Twitter spouting Nazi ideology and you're going to be like, well, it's his opinion, that's crazy.

00:53:51.000 Depending, but I gotta be honest, like, we have a very strong free speech bench at this company.

00:53:56.000 But, you're right, and I've said this over and over again, there is a threshold I'm willing to tolerate.

00:54:03.000 I've said free speech not for those who don't believe in free speech.

00:54:05.000 Anybody who wants to come in here, advocate for fascism and taking away people's rights, I'm going to say I'm not going to defend yours.

00:54:11.000 At least I'm not going to have to hire you.

00:54:13.000 It's freedom of association.

00:54:14.000 You hire and work with whoever you want.

00:54:16.000 Ron DeSantis is here.

00:54:18.000 He said it.

00:54:19.000 The last part of this is the most important part.

00:54:21.000 Not the, I won't remove myself, whatever.

00:54:23.000 The last part of this is what matters.

00:54:25.000 Let me play it again.

00:54:27.000 No, I think that's just playing into the left.

00:54:29.000 That was meaningless, by the way.

00:54:30.000 It makes no sense.

00:54:31.000 The case will get overturned by the Supreme Court, but I've qualified for all the ballots, I'm competing in all the states, and I'm going to accumulate the delegates necessary.

00:54:40.000 That's the whole name of the game in this situation.

00:54:43.000 The whole name of the game is for him to accumulate the delegates.

00:54:45.000 He will not remove himself, even if Trump has been removed.

00:54:49.000 He thinks Trump will be put back on, it's political.

00:54:51.000 I'm getting all these dissenters people saying, oh yeah, but you know, he's saying he knows he'll be overturned.

00:54:56.000 I'm like, that's meaningless.

00:54:57.000 If that were true, and he thought 100% Trump would be back on the ballot, then he would say, Vivek's right.

00:55:02.000 I will absolutely remove myself from the primary process, because it's not a real race.

00:55:07.000 No, he said the opposite.

00:55:08.000 He said, the name of the game is get the delegates and I'm not backing down.

00:55:10.000 I'm going to win.

00:55:12.000 He is no different than a Democrat.

00:55:13.000 I have seen not one time in this primary where Ron DeSantis did a bold move or took a strong stand on anything, which is shocking to me.

00:55:23.000 No, it would have been more interesting if he beat Vivek to the punch here, right?

00:55:26.000 Because that's the thing.

00:55:27.000 Now, Vivek, who knows everyone else, we talk about all the time, Republicans are not unified.

00:55:32.000 There are a bunch of people who obviously don't want Trump to become the nominee, theoretically Vivek included, right?

00:55:36.000 Because he's campaigning for president.

00:55:38.000 So he was the first one to say, well, I would leave it.

00:55:40.000 And now all of them who actually don't want to leave the race. 0.91

00:55:43.000 Either follow suit, meaning that he is the leader, or they argue and then they see the anti-Trump, which isolates the base.

00:55:48.000 His entire governorship is bold move, bold move, leftist freakout headline, bold move, bold move, bold move.

00:55:54.000 But he's running as you would think a Nikki Haley candidacy would be run.

00:55:58.000 He's running worse than Nikki Haley.

00:55:59.000 Worse, but I mean, I don't understand.

00:56:02.000 And what I see is...

00:56:05.000 I didn't support Donald Trump in 2016.

00:56:07.000 We have criticisms on this show of Trump.

00:56:09.000 We have debates over police as an institution, abolition of police.

00:56:14.000 We have fairly nuanced conversations.

00:56:16.000 The left doesn't want to come on the show.

00:56:17.000 Well, screw them, they don't have to, but they should.

00:56:19.000 And when it comes to the likes of Donald Trump, as I said, Luke Rutkowski will come on here and criticize Trump to no end, even at one point saying he wouldn't vote for him. 0.84

00:56:27.000 And then he, sure enough, went and voted for him.

00:56:30.000 Luke voted?

00:56:31.000 Luke says he voted for Trump.

00:56:35.000 I guess we know who the real anarchist is after all.

00:56:37.000 That's right, that's right.

00:56:38.000 But my point is this- Me, Michael.

00:56:40.000 You have- Yeah. 0.96

00:56:41.000 Your brother, I hate him. 0.97

00:56:43.000 You have Ron DeSantis' supporters, prominent journalists and personalities, and Personas of the Daily Wire, who are saying things that come off as the most pathetic, desperate lies to defend Ron DeSantis. 0.98

00:56:58.000 Matt Walsh said something that I thought was just, it was cringe.

00:57:03.000 He criticized Vivek saying, what's the point of doing this, blah blah blah, and I'm like, it is the most unbelievable thing and inauthentic thing a person could say, acting as though they don't understand what Vivek was doing.

00:57:15.000 We all get it.

00:57:16.000 Vivek is in third place in the lesser-known GOP debates.

00:57:21.000 He's in fourth place in the primary, and he's still doing power moves, and we know exactly why he's doing it.

00:57:25.000 To act like you think it makes no sense is, in my opinion, it's cringe, man.

00:57:30.000 They're journalists that we've had on the show.

00:57:32.000 Obviously, we're friends with Matt.

00:57:34.000 I like the guy.

00:57:34.000 I think he's fantastic, but I'll criticize who I think deserves it.

00:57:37.000 And they're on Twitter, Dave Rubin, acting like Ron DeSantis did the right thing here, and I'm like, dude, I don't care what you think.

00:57:45.000 Okay, we can be friends, we can have dinner, that's kind of the point.

00:57:48.000 But no one believes you when you come out and you're like, I think Ron did the right thing.

00:57:53.000 You don't believe that.

00:57:54.000 Now you're losing all your credibility.

00:57:56.000 Because he's outright saying he's gonna win the delegates after they removed Trump from the race.

00:58:03.000 That's the game.

00:58:04.000 No, it isn't.

00:58:05.000 But here's the thing.

00:58:06.000 Not the game I want to play.

00:58:07.000 Isn't Colorado way down the line in terms of when they actually vote?

00:58:09.000 Super Tuesday.

00:58:10.000 Yeah, so Colorado is not going to be determinative in any case.

00:58:12.000 By Super Tuesday, it's probably going to be close to wrapped up, maybe down to two people.

00:58:16.000 So this wouldn't even cost him anything else if he...

00:58:18.000 On the other hand, let me play devil's advocate with you.

00:58:22.000 What if the concern with DeSantis is that Vivek is being the leader among the Plan B

00:58:28.000 people, and if Ron agrees with him, that's going to be used as, look, Ron DeSantis can't

00:58:32.000 even leave within the primary.

00:58:34.000 Yep.

00:58:35.000 And Vivek, at least in the 538 polls after the last debate, he jumped over Christy.

00:58:41.000 Christy and he were sort of neck and neck and he's jumped up.

00:58:43.000 Wow.

00:58:43.000 That's bad, Vivek.

00:58:44.000 He must have had some kind of big pogo stick. 0.99

00:58:46.000 I think part, yeah, that's true.

00:58:47.000 But part of it is- You ever see those extreme pogos?

00:58:49.000 Oh yeah.

00:58:49.000 Where they do flips and stuff?

00:58:51.000 But I think part of it is that Vivek has charisma, and when he's on stage he can really command attention, right?

00:58:51.000 That's super cool.

00:58:56.000 He had his like... And he's also got nothing to lose!

00:58:58.000 Right!

00:58:59.000 And so at this point, why not?

00:59:01.000 I mean, the thought, what I heard from some people was like, it's easy to say I'll come off the ballot when you think they're gonna terminate their campaign anyways, which also puts him in a strong position.

00:59:10.000 It's one of the reasons that people want Donald Trump back in the White House, because he could only serve one more term anyways, so imagine what he would do.

00:59:17.000 It's a very similar mindset, and I think, again, that's a threat to DeSantis.

00:59:19.000 Let me give you an example.

00:59:21.000 Ryan Saavedra.

00:59:22.000 He said, in response, I tweeted, no one honest sees anything other than Ron trying to win power.

00:59:28.000 If he really believed it, it would be overturned.

00:59:31.000 He would agree with Vivek.

00:59:32.000 Saavedra tweeted, one, Trump's team filed a lawsuit to have DeSantis thrown off the ballot, which Tim Pool ignores.

00:59:38.000 This is why I despise these people.

00:59:39.000 Sorry, Ryan. 0.98

00:59:40.000 This is the cringiest, most despicable thing.

00:59:42.000 Is Ryan a dissentist person?

00:59:45.000 Yes.

00:59:45.000 Okay.

00:59:46.000 When this happened, we all talked about it.

00:59:49.000 You want me to go back to May and be like, well, I know what's happening now with Trump, but let's go back in time six months to discuss an old news story that's not relevant right now?

00:59:56.000 Well, of course we talked about it.

00:59:58.000 Whenever these stories come up, we talk about it.

00:59:59.000 The whole debate we had was over whether or not Ron... First, it's whether Ron could be Trump's VP.

01:00:03.000 That's out of the question.

01:00:05.000 And whether or not Ron was in violation of laws pertaining to using his funds from the governor's race, for the presidential race.

01:00:12.000 And we've had numerous conversations about his staff working between the campaign and his office.

01:00:20.000 That conversation happens all the time.

01:00:22.000 And now he's like, Tim ignores it.

01:00:24.000 They're just lying.

01:00:25.000 And anyone... Hold on.

01:00:27.000 I don't know, Ryan, but it could be that he just doesn't know.

01:00:30.000 So he doesn't mean he's lying. 0.99

01:00:31.000 He just could be ignorant.

01:00:32.000 Why is he bringing up a story from May? 1.00

01:00:34.000 Because in this case, it's showing that he's trying to claim that Trump's being a hypocrite. 0.99

01:00:38.000 So he's claiming I'm a hypocrite. 0.99

01:00:40.000 No, he could be claiming that... He says Tim Pool ignores. 0.95

01:00:42.000 He could be playing that in terms of him not knowing your record as opposed to lying.

01:00:47.000 So he's making, instead of looking into it at all... Correct.

01:00:50.000 Maybe he was lazy.

01:00:51.000 So he's fabricating.

01:00:52.000 Or lazy.

01:00:54.000 I don't accept lazy.

01:00:55.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:00:57.000 Considering the fact that Ron's supporters have, this is their MO, this is one example that I'm bringing up.

01:01:02.000 I don't know them as well as you do, okay.

01:01:03.000 This is, no matter what Ron does, there's some defense for it.

01:01:06.000 Okay.

01:01:07.000 When we had Laura Loomer and Bill Mitchell on debating Trump v. DeSantis, I asked Bill Mitchell, why are the DeSantis people attacking me?

01:01:14.000 And he says, Laura Loomer tweeted, and Alex Brucewitz, and I said, Bill, stop.

01:01:19.000 I'm not Laura Loomer.

01:01:19.000 I'm not Alex Brucewitz.

01:01:20.000 Why are they tweeting at me?

01:01:21.000 And he goes, Laura Loomer, and I said, I don't care.

01:01:25.000 Why are you tweeting at me?

01:01:27.000 This is what they do. 1.00

01:01:29.000 They see something from a fan of Trump's, they grab onto it, and then they make shit up! 0.99

01:01:37.000 So this is a topical news program. 0.99

01:01:39.000 When Donald Trump was challenging DeSantis, of course we talked about it.

01:01:42.000 We talked about it in numerous contexts.

01:01:44.000 There's no reason to say this other than you're trying to mislead your audience and act like we don't care that Trump does these things. 0.99

01:01:48.000 When Laura Loomer tweeted a fake tweet, we presume, from Christina Pasha, that Christina Pasha tweeted the same thing, I said, The DeSantis campaign, the DeSantis people are the scumbags they claim Trump are. 0.87

01:02:00.000 They immediately ran with it, but Trump doesn't care, Tim doesn't care when Trump does it. 0.88

01:02:03.000 I said, is Laura Loomer on Trump's campaign?

01:02:06.000 And they all, they all think, this is why I say, okay, I'm done with these people.

01:02:10.000 They view themselves...

01:02:12.000 Like, we're on stage at a rock concert, and Donald Trump is here, and I thought Ron DeSantis was up here with us, and we were debating what the next song in the set was gonna be.

01:02:24.000 I now realize, thanks to the DeSantis fans, Donald Trump is up on stage, we're standing here behind him, cheering him on, and down there in the audience, in the mosh pit, arguing with, you know, with Rick, who's selling cotton candy, is Ron DeSantis and his campaign.

01:02:38.000 And they're screaming at us on stage, and I said, Why am I even bothering talking to these people?

01:02:43.000 I shouldn't be yelling down to the audience and the fans.

01:02:46.000 Let them watch the show and do their thing.

01:02:49.000 Ron DeSantis is not a serious contender.

01:02:51.000 His influencers are not even viewing themselves as on par with the Trump campaign.

01:02:56.000 So we shouldn't even be debating him.

01:02:57.000 He's done.

01:02:59.000 Well, I think he is.

01:03:00.000 I think the fact seems pretty clear that his campaign is just completely imploded.

01:03:03.000 I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime, probably.

01:03:05.000 And he's never gained.

01:03:06.000 I mean, Trump is still polling at, like, what, 60%?

01:03:09.000 No one has been able to close that gap.

01:03:12.000 Here's the question for the table, and I can go either way, but I'm leaning towards one way or the other in his answers.

01:03:19.000 Is this 4D chess from the Democratic establishment to force Trump to be the nominee, thinking he'd be much more beatable if he got felonies?

01:03:27.000 I mean, that was one of the things DeSantis said today.

01:03:29.000 You got this!

01:03:31.000 Polster, I think this was, um, who was this?

01:03:34.000 This was, uh, what's his face?

01:03:35.000 What's the Polster's name that no one cares about anymore?

01:03:37.000 Frank Luntz.

01:03:38.000 Was that, was this Luntz who said this?

01:03:40.000 Yeah, Luntz.

01:03:41.000 He said, uh, this Supreme Court ruling from, uh, Colorado, Trump is now more likely to beat Biden because of this.

01:03:47.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying is that just because they're playing 4D chess doesn't mean they're good at it.

01:03:50.000 So in their thinking, their normie thinking, it could be like, no one's going to vote for a felon.

01:03:55.000 No one's going to vote for blah, blah, blah.

01:03:56.000 No one's going to vote for... This was their 2016 strategy.

01:03:59.000 Pied Piper.

01:04:00.000 Right. 0.92

01:04:01.000 Once we make him out to be a white nationalist Nazi, no one's going to vote for him.

01:04:05.000 It's gonna be clear, you have to go for Hillary. 1.00

01:04:07.000 And basically the message was every single day, you have to go for Hillary. 0.99

01:04:10.000 You have to go for Hillary. 1.00

01:04:12.000 Every right-thinking person is voting for Hillary. 0.99

01:04:14.000 Just ask us.

01:04:15.000 And then everyone voted and went into the booth and raised their fingers and said, nah, I'm voting for Trump.

01:04:18.000 Did you know that in swing states, not only does Trump have a lead, I think he's leading in seven and tied in two.

01:04:25.000 Some are double digits.

01:04:27.000 But more importantly, among people who did not vote in 2020, Trump holds a 40% lead in Michigan and like a 27% lead in Georgia. 0.94

01:04:35.000 Holy crap. 0.91

01:04:36.000 New voters swinging towards Trump. 0.99

01:04:39.000 You know why?

01:04:39.000 The rent's too damn high.

01:04:42.000 Yeah.

01:04:43.000 You should have him on the show, Jim McMillan.

01:04:46.000 If he's still alive.

01:04:47.000 It is.

01:04:48.000 The cost of food.

01:04:49.000 There's a meme that's going around, I love it.

01:04:51.000 You know the Who Radicalized You meme?

01:04:53.000 It's like the NPC.

01:04:54.000 The new one is a guy saying, angrily saying, my grocery bill.

01:04:58.000 It's a picture of a receipt.

01:04:59.000 Yo, I went out to eat today.

01:05:01.000 We went to a Mexican restaurant today.

01:05:03.000 I got- we got fajitas, guacamole, and a pupusa.

01:05:07.000 How much do you think that cost?

01:05:09.000 $37.

01:05:09.000 What do you think?

01:05:11.000 I- I- I- I don't even really know what half of those things are.

01:05:13.000 Maybe it was $36 just for the pupusa.

01:05:15.000 Wait, fajita?

01:05:15.000 Let me- let me speak.

01:05:16.000 A sit-down restaurant?

01:05:17.000 We went to- Hold up.

01:05:18.000 Like a sit-down?

01:05:19.000 $57.

01:05:20.000 Let me- let me- let me give you guys a painted picture.

01:05:23.000 It was approximately, I don't know what, three or four hundred, no, three hundred square feet, maybe two hundred square feet small.

01:05:29.000 Okay.

01:05:30.000 I would estimate eight to twelve tables.

01:05:34.000 Okay, I know those types, yeah. 1.00

01:05:35.000 With fast casual bar style small Mexican restaurant.

01:05:38.000 Around here?

01:05:39.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 Okay.

01:05:40.000 So, not a high-class sit-down.

01:05:42.000 I got you.

01:05:42.000 We're talking wood chairs and a table.

01:05:44.000 So, fajita, I would guess- Chicken fajitas.

01:05:46.000 So, this is chicken breast over- I don't- So, if chicken fajitas are $11.95, I would guess, what are the other two things?

01:05:51.000 We ordered guacamole.

01:05:52.000 Guacamole's gonna be $8.95.

01:05:53.000 And a pupusa.

01:05:55.000 I don't know what that is.

01:05:55.000 It is a stuffed flour tortilla with chicken in it.

01:05:58.000 That's going to be like $6.95, I would say.

01:05:59.000 And plantains.

01:06:00.000 Plantains will be what?

01:06:01.000 Plantains also.

01:06:03.000 What do you think the total cost of those?

01:06:05.000 $12.13 plus $12.25, so like $34.

01:06:07.000 Yeah, my guess was up there with $34, but now that I'm thinking of inflation, I'm looking at $18.

01:06:11.000 It's like $65.

01:06:12.000 $18 fajitas, $57.

01:06:16.000 47.

01:06:16.000 Wow.

01:06:17.000 So it's a third more than it would have been, like, not that long ago.

01:06:20.000 $47.50.

01:06:22.000 Not a high-end restaurant.

01:06:23.000 I mean, I'm not trying to disrespect this restaurant.

01:06:24.000 It was really good food.

01:06:26.000 But this was a local, small, like, it was a strip mall.

01:06:31.000 A strip mall Mexican restaurant.

01:06:32.000 You know why this makes me so angry?

01:06:34.000 And this is why I'm very, like, end of fed and all this other stuff.

01:06:37.000 Because inflation is a tax on poverty.

01:06:39.000 Yes.

01:06:40.000 It hurts poor people first and foremost.

01:06:43.000 And it just drives me crazy.

01:06:46.000 Do you think that... You know this, but let me just stress this for the people listening.

01:06:51.000 Inflation is good for the wealthy.

01:06:54.000 You wanna know what the wealthy love about inflation?

01:06:57.000 When the costs go up, it means their net worth goes up.

01:07:00.000 But a poor person who needs to buy chicken, and they're not making enough money, they can't buy that food for their family now.

01:07:07.000 For the wealthy investor, they're like, what's inflation at?

01:07:10.000 Oh, so what's my property at?

01:07:12.000 Wow, my car's up 7%, my house is up 7%.

01:07:16.000 The hard assets we own from our insert factory building, whatever, all those are more expensive now.

01:07:23.000 Is your mom an immigrant?

01:07:24.000 No.

01:07:24.000 Okay.

01:07:25.000 When we came to this country, my mama told me how we had so little money, like on 86th Street and Bensonhurst in Brooklyn, you have a lot of fruit stands.

01:07:34.000 And she'd go to the fruit stand on the west side, all the way west, see how much the grapes were, walk all the way to the other side, down the block, and it's not a short block, these are avenues in Brooklyn, see how much the grapes were, and if it's like a five cent difference, she would do it.

01:07:47.000 And that's the kind of thing when you're like really poor, you have to make these considerations.

01:07:52.000 So, like, there's a few things that get me, like, really, really, really enraged.

01:07:58.000 And the flippancy with which inflation is talked about as if, like, oh, it's going to be warmer tomorrow.

01:08:03.000 It's like, these are people having to make sacrifices.

01:08:05.000 They have to wake up half an hour earlier to get to work because they can't afford, like, some kind of surge pricing or something for the bridge.

01:08:11.000 It's so gross.

01:08:13.000 I did a couple of books with DL Hughley, and one of the points he made, which really kind of resonated with me, and I don't agree with him specifically, but he goes, you know, this country hates poor people. 0.72

01:08:23.000 And I don't think that's true, but it sure doesn't love them.

01:08:27.000 It doesn't look out for them.

01:08:28.000 And especially people who are in power.

01:08:30.000 You know, the lefties traditionally, at their best, are the bleeding hearts who are like, oh, you know, someone's hungry, let's get them fed, let's get them clothes, you know, let's look out for them, and like, you'd laugh at that, but it's like, you know what?

01:08:42.000 The older I get, the less I laugh at that, and the more I'm like, we can use a little bit more of that, and it really sickens me how much poor people aren't thought of in this country, because they don't have much power, by definition.

01:08:52.000 They're used as weapons.

01:08:53.000 Yes, exactly.

01:08:54.000 The immigrants are Are the poor, new poor people that are being taken care of by the government. 1.00

01:08:58.000 It's the people that are coming across the border.

01:08:59.000 They're not poor.

01:09:00.000 They're being flown.

01:09:01.000 Well, they don't come over here with anything as far as we can tell.

01:09:03.000 Yes, they do.

01:09:03.000 It cost them thousands of dollars to hire these coyotes.

01:09:06.000 Yeah, but a lot of times they... Some of these people coming from North Africa have ten grand. 1.00

01:09:08.000 Sometimes they come in and they owe, they have to pay that back after they get here.

01:09:12.000 Yeah, sometimes.

01:09:12.000 But when we're looking at North African migrants who paid smugglers $5,000, that's more than a lot of people in this country could afford to spend on moving.

01:09:22.000 Now, to be fair, yes, they get here, now they don't have anything.

01:09:25.000 Perhaps they shouldn't have spent between $3,000 and $5,000, or even upwards of $10,000, depending on who they're with, to come to this country.

01:09:32.000 And now, the fascinating thing is we've got these videos coming up from Ashley St.

01:09:36.000 Clair, Nuance Bro had a video, and Taylor Hanson from Tenet.

01:09:41.000 These people are being given premium economy.

01:09:44.000 They're being flown in the premium seats on airplanes to their choice of destination.

01:09:48.000 You flew me coach here, you P.O.S.

01:09:50.000 Are you a migrant?

01:09:52.000 Did you cross the border illegally?

01:09:54.000 I'm a refugee.

01:09:55.000 We will reimburse you the difference and get you a first class on the way back.

01:09:59.000 I'm not Joe Biden!

01:10:00.000 I'll tell you a funny story.

01:10:02.000 When I left New York for Austin, one-way ticket, I'm like, you know what?

01:10:05.000 I'm going to treat myself.

01:10:06.000 I'm going to get first class.

01:10:08.000 And the armrests are too far apart because I'm a munchkin.

01:10:12.000 And I'm like, I wasted money for nothing!

01:10:13.000 You can't even use the IRS.

01:10:16.000 All I can think of about solving the inflation issue is making fuel cheaper.

01:10:22.000 But it's not just fuel, it's also food, it's also rent, it's literally everything.

01:10:27.000 Result the reason foods expensive because you got to use fuel to get it from the farm sure factor But that also doesn't it doesn't include human expectation Inflation is also high because people demand clean running water air conditioning refrigeration hot showers a lot of that stuff comes from combustion Which is carbon-based it's your answer graphene.

01:10:43.000 It's your answer It's it's it's an overly simplistic answer.

01:10:47.000 It's not completely wrong energy plays a huge role in inflation fuel power Particularly.

01:10:50.000 But the issue is if people did not want these things, they would work for less.

01:10:54.000 Inflation is a huge component of inflation is the demands of the people and what they're willing to work for.

01:10:59.000 And there are a lot of millennials.

01:11:00.000 There's a poll that came out. 0.56

01:11:02.000 Millennials are broken people. 1.00

01:11:03.000 Millennials said they would only be happy with $500,000 a year.

01:11:07.000 Every other generation.

01:11:08.000 What a sacrifice.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, every other generation said $120,000.

01:11:11.000 Yeah, of course.

01:11:12.000 $120,000 and I'm happy.

01:11:14.000 Millennials are like $500,000.

01:11:15.000 Now, what do you think happens?

01:11:16.000 You take a generation of people who want $500,000 and you say, hey, we want to pay you, we'll pay you $15 an hour to work at Starbucks.

01:11:22.000 They go, no, I want $500,000.

01:11:24.000 You're like, okay, well, we need to hire people and they're demanding massive salaries because they want to be able to buy a bunch of stuff the average person doesn't want.

01:11:32.000 They make this argument, poverty shouldn't exist, abolish poverty, these other arguments, like, poverty today is wealth 400 years ago.

01:11:39.000 Yes.

01:11:39.000 There will always be poverty- Or even 100 years ago.

01:11:41.000 Seriously, because poverty is relative.

01:11:43.000 So it's not so simple.

01:11:43.000 Yes.

01:11:45.000 Inflation is not just a component of the cost of fuel, it's the demands of the population and what they're willing to work for.

01:11:50.000 Inflation and the cost of goods is a component of how much energy a person will expend for one hour in exchange for how much energy do they get back.

01:11:58.000 And everybody wants more energy back than they put out.

01:12:01.000 Millennials want five to ten times the energy they put out back, and so it's not so simple to just say, cheaper energy solves the problem.

01:12:09.000 Because when you, let's say we do have an energy revolution, energy becomes 10% cheaper.

01:12:14.000 You know what happens?

01:12:15.000 Who's the guy who did that formulation for the cost of gas based on the use of gas, based on the cost of gas?

01:12:22.000 He basically, early 1900s found that when gas is cheaper, people spend the same amount of money on gas, they just drive more.

01:12:30.000 When you make gas expensive, they just drive less.

01:12:33.000 It's a flat cost.

01:12:35.000 Yes.

01:12:36.000 If someone has $50 left over, they'll be like, eh, I'll just drive around for no reason.

01:12:39.000 I wouldn't consider 10% a revolution.

01:12:41.000 If you could drop the cost of fuel by like 99%, that would be a revolution.

01:12:45.000 And what we end up seeing is, people will just drive more.

01:12:48.000 Maybe.

01:12:50.000 Or they'll just use more gas-consuming vehicles, like rocket ships.

01:12:55.000 No, but this is exactly what they saw.

01:12:56.000 When gas got cheaper, people bought gas guzzlers because gas is cheap now.

01:13:02.000 You look at this issue and you're like, a single individual can make the decision that because gas is cheaper, I'll live frugally and I'll save ten bucks and buy more food.

01:13:10.000 Not what happens.

01:13:11.000 On the macro level, people will drive more, they'll buy gas guzzlers, and the amount they spend on travel remains the same.

01:13:17.000 People used to not be able to afford meat in this country, right?

01:13:20.000 It used to be a big thing.

01:13:21.000 Now everyone, even though the prices have gone up, can afford meat.

01:13:23.000 It's not that they're eating less meat.

01:13:25.000 They just buy more.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 And they get used to it, and they expect more.

01:13:29.000 The cost of food gets cheaper.

01:13:30.000 People don't save money on food now.

01:13:33.000 They just eat until they're dead.

01:13:34.000 I think that's why the, not depopulation, but degrowth, people want the human race to be expanding slower.

01:13:41.000 It's like, you might call it conspiracy, I don't know, but that's why it's explicit.

01:13:46.000 I think that's why it is explicit, because humans' unfettered will just expand and grow and consume.

01:13:51.000 As will any animal.

01:13:52.000 But that's not the problem.

01:13:53.000 It is absolutely amazing looking at the International Space Station.

01:13:57.000 I believe the cost of it was three billion dollars.

01:14:00.000 And all of the power of human minds all across the planet came together to develop the technology and the capability to send people into space to live up there for months on end.

01:14:08.000 That is human minds coming together.

01:14:10.000 More people means we'll just start colonizing off the planet.

01:14:15.000 We'll figure these things out.

01:14:16.000 The problem is culture.

01:14:18.000 And so degrowth is not the answer.

01:14:20.000 They're saying, you know, live in the pot, eat the bugs.

01:14:23.000 Well, that's an argument.

01:14:25.000 The solution actually is cultural change.

01:14:27.000 People need to be...

01:14:29.000 They need to eat less food.

01:14:31.000 They need to recognize food is cheap now.

01:14:32.000 Don't buy 10 times of it.

01:14:34.000 They need to recognize community is important.

01:14:36.000 You need to have creativity, culture, and development.

01:14:39.000 The problem is, while we have a ton of really amazing people working really hard to develop technology so we can go to outer space, we have too many people who, what does Yuval Harari call them? 0.88

01:14:50.000 Useless eaters.

01:14:51.000 And so the solution, in my view, to the quote-unquote useless eater is, wow, look at all these people that could put their potential to the advancement of human civilization that haven't been properly appropriated. 0.98

01:15:02.000 And what do they say?

01:15:04.000 Put them in pods, give them the bugs, and let them play video games until they no longer exist and don't have kids. 0.82

01:15:08.000 Harvest their body heat for electricity?

01:15:10.000 That's not a real thing, though.

01:15:11.000 Yeah, you can harvest piezoelectricity, like heat and friction from electricity.

01:15:15.000 The energy loss from that, the Matrix did that, and the only reason they came up with that concept was because people wouldn't understand the concept of a neural net.

01:15:22.000 So, you know, harnessing energy from a human body is ridiculously useful.

01:15:25.000 Well, I think, didn't the Matrix just do that because they had to have a reason why they didn't just kill all the people?

01:15:28.000 No, it was, uh, the original idea in the Matrix was that first, humans chose the Matrix.

01:15:33.000 Oh, that makes more sense.

01:15:34.000 And that is canon.

01:15:36.000 And that the reason the robots needed them was for a neural network to basically create a massive... Okay, that makes sense.

01:15:43.000 Their brains are used to compute the Matrix itself.

01:15:44.000 The argument that more people means more expansion isn't, it's not, doesn't track because, like, a deer population, if it expands too rapidly, it'll eat all the food and then it'll starve and have a mass starvation.

01:15:55.000 Deer don't invent spaceships, though.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, but most humans don't either.

01:15:58.000 It's a very, very small percentage of humans that have that kind of mind capacity.

01:16:02.000 That's not true at all.

01:16:03.000 Because the cobalt we use for our technology is not mined by rocket scientists.

01:16:07.000 Well, you have slaves, yeah, but the people that build the rockets are someone else.

01:16:10.000 So, we don't like the conditions in the cobalt mines, but we're not going to send Einstein to a cobalt mine.

01:16:17.000 What we should have is a Forrest Gump-like person who can't build a rocket, but dude can run really, really fast.

01:16:22.000 You can run fast?

01:16:24.000 Sure, undoubtedly, yes.

01:16:25.000 There is a role for everyone on God's green earth.

01:16:29.000 The problem is... Oh, no, no, no.

01:16:31.000 I completely disagree.

01:16:32.000 You don't think so?

01:16:33.000 Most people are as irrelevant as a butterfly, and they have as much impact on reality.

01:16:33.000 No!

01:16:37.000 And they can't break rocks for us?

01:16:39.000 Oh, sure.

01:16:41.000 But we are at a point where Chad GPT is a better conversationalist than the average human being.

01:16:45.000 But I don't care about conversation.

01:16:46.000 I care about who's going to pick up the cobalt for our smartphones.

01:16:48.000 I think much of these things, like cobalt, can be done by robots or machines.

01:16:53.000 I do not believe that's correct right now, perhaps in the future.

01:16:55.000 I don't think it's going to be far in the future.

01:16:55.000 Sure.

01:16:58.000 It's just not economically feasible at the moment.

01:17:01.000 Perhaps the big concern of the Bill Gates types is that once we come to a point where trivial and menial labor is done by machines, You will only require higher thinking human beings, in which case the quote-unquote useless eater has become a very serious liability.

01:17:01.000 Fair point.

01:17:18.000 We're at a point where I would much rather, and most other people, would rather interact with the touchscreen than the cashier at a fast food place, because the odds of me getting my order correct are much higher, and it's gonna be more faster, more efficient.

01:17:29.000 That's a problem.

01:17:31.000 I agree and disagree.

01:17:33.000 I think you are correct, it will likely be higher, but I also think the issue is not just the cashier, but the guy making the food.

01:17:38.000 Correct.

01:17:39.000 So, until we eliminate that role... But that's also happened now.

01:17:42.000 They have the machines.

01:17:43.000 Yes, they have fully automated McDonald's.

01:17:45.000 I think it's a McDonald's, I could be wrong, but there was a video I saw where you go to a kiosk and order, and then behind the counter you actually watch the robot arm grab the burger, put it on the grill, take it out, flips, puts it on the bun, then the thing drops all the ingredients.

01:17:57.000 Isn't there like a fully automated Taco Bell somewhere in the Midwest?

01:18:01.000 It's like a drive-thru completely, there are no humans who work there which I find crazy.

01:18:06.000 I'm pretty sure, it may have been Yuval Noah Harari who said this or someone else, but the idea that they have is, when the next industrial revolution happens, to avoid a Luddite riot, What you have to do is before the revolution, placate the masses by stimulating dopamine, put them in a situation where they can play video games all day and get free food.

01:18:27.000 They will eventually just die off and then you won't have to worry about violence.

01:18:33.000 So what's interesting is you have that book right there which I just interviewed Alex Jones about, The Great Reset.

01:18:38.000 And his entire book is about quotes from these guys where they're not just, it's not like horror porn, they're advocating for Brave New World.

01:18:46.000 They're like, this is what we want, there's no other way around it.

01:18:49.000 And I don't think that, I think this is actually a real concern because what if you are a millennial, low IQ, low ambition, a sense of entitlement, what am I gonna, what am I, I'm gonna be making, I'm gonna be breaking cobalt in the mines?

01:19:04.000 No, I'm not.

01:19:06.000 Where's the problem?

01:19:06.000 What do you do with that person?

01:19:07.000 What do you do with that person?

01:19:08.000 You give them a video game.

01:19:10.000 Sure, that's right, exactly.

01:19:11.000 That's the point.

01:19:12.000 And so, where's the problem then?

01:19:14.000 Are any of us upset that entitled, woke millennials will go lock themselves in a pod eating bugs and playing The Matrix?

01:19:21.000 At a certain point, if they're all on welfare, it's going to become costly and someone's going to be like, why are we paying for all these people in their pods to play video games?

01:19:29.000 That's when the problem comes in.

01:19:30.000 So they don't run around burning everything down because they don't want to break rocks.

01:19:34.000 Sure, but the point is then they start reproducing and they start voting and all sorts of other things start happening.

01:19:38.000 Which is why they're also sterilizing themselves and aborting their children. 0.67

01:19:42.000 Sure, but I don't think they're all... sterilizing themselves means thinking ahead, so a lot of them are not going to be thinking ahead because they're operating on a pleasure principle.

01:19:51.000 Have you seen the... there's an article that was being shared, it said, study finds single women are... women are happier when they're single and childless.

01:20:03.000 I think that's what it was, and it showed up a clip from the show Girls, and then my response was, yeah, until they're 35.

01:20:08.000 Right, yeah.

01:20:09.000 But for real.

01:20:10.000 And so what's happening is, you have this corporate press apparatus telling all these young women not to have families, and they buy into it. 0.99

01:20:16.000 But the thing is, this isn't even some hypothetical sci-fi thing.

01:20:19.000 This is literally, like, 2019.

01:20:20.000 They're explaining their point.

01:20:22.000 It's already been happening for years. 1.00

01:20:23.000 Alex Jones described it as, they tell you they're setting bear traps, and if you are too stupid to avoid them, it's your own fault. 1.00

01:20:30.000 I don't think it's too stupid, it's too trusting, and we're taught since we're kids to trust these people, so it's very hard to be like, holy crap, I've been lied to since kindergarten. 0.99

01:20:38.000 We definitely, here's what we're going to do. 0.99

01:20:40.000 That's tough.

01:20:40.000 I mean, I think about the members.

01:20:42.000 I want to talk more about this, but we'll go into a dark territory, so we'll save it for the members only.

01:20:46.000 And we'll jump to a more Irreverent!

01:20:46.000 Okay.

01:20:50.000 Sort of.

01:20:51.000 Subject, but something a bit, uh, um, to provide some levity.

01:20:54.000 We have this tweet from the Colorado Republican Party that I saw.

01:20:57.000 Oh boy, okay.

01:20:58.000 Democrats love to let criminals, criminals, uh, criminals loose on the street.

01:21:02.000 This is what happens when you elect woke crime huggers to power.

01:21:05.000 The Simpsons' prediction certainly stands the test of time.

01:21:08.000 I am in love with this clip.

01:21:11.000 You ready?

01:21:12.000 I'll be back.

01:21:13.000 You can't keep the Democrats out of the White House forever.

01:21:15.000 And when they get in, I'm back on the streets with all my criminal buddies!

01:21:19.000 Bwahahahaha! Bwahahahaha! Bwahahahaha! Bwahahahaha!

01:21:26.000 I love that.

01:21:26.000 With all my criminal buddies!

01:21:28.000 Can I make a point?

01:21:29.000 Yeah.

01:21:30.000 It was Trump who had the criminal reform and let out a lot of people.

01:21:35.000 Yeah, but that's not- I'm just- I'm just- But that- we like the criminal reform.

01:21:40.000 What we don't like is when they arrest salon owners and then literally unleash violent criminals into the cities.

01:21:40.000 I know, I know, I know.

01:21:46.000 What I don't like is when people who are like Kyle Rittenhouse and the guy in New York, I don't even remember his name- Daniel Penny?

01:21:52.000 Yes, who are doing the job the police- Dan Perry!

01:21:54.000 Who are ostensibly supposed to be doing are the ones who pay the consequences and are traumatized for life.

01:21:59.000 Luke has a video about this from a decade ago where a guy was stabbing people on the Metro

01:22:05.000 in New York City and the cops were like, I'm not getting involved.

01:22:08.000 And there was a court ruling that police are not obligated to say that.

01:22:11.000 That's the case, yeah.

01:22:12.000 Yeah, and so this guy intervenes and gets stabbed several times in the head and stuff

01:22:16.000 and then stops this.

01:22:17.000 As soon as he subdues them, then the police come in.

01:22:19.000 But they were like, I'm not going anywhere near that knife.

01:22:21.000 What about what happened in Britain recently with the pro-Palestinian marches

01:22:25.000 and the guy who tried to stop them was like a British patriot, he got arrested?

01:22:30.000 Of course.

01:22:31.000 You say of course, but I don't think a lot of people realize to what extent it screwed up.

01:22:36.000 I mean, we talk about it.

01:22:36.000 Sure, sure.

01:22:37.000 Dan Dix, do you know Dan?

01:22:40.000 No.

01:22:40.000 Journalist, he was in Canada and there was a protest.

01:22:43.000 He showed up to film it, they started screaming and attacking him, so the cops are trying to arrest him.

01:22:47.000 I think he had detained and then removed.

01:22:49.000 It's like, the innocent guy who shows up doing nothing is attacked, and then you defend the attackers.

01:22:53.000 Not just innocent, heroic.

01:22:55.000 Yeah.

01:22:57.000 This is what I've been warned about is coming.

01:23:00.000 When the guy in Wisconsin had BLM show up to his house, his private residence, protesting, and he brandished a shotgun, the police showed up and arrested him, and BLM cheered for it. 0.83

01:23:12.000 They don't want to abolish the police.

01:23:13.000 They want the police to just arrest you.

01:23:16.000 Yes, I mean, that's been crystal clear from day one.

01:23:19.000 Definitely.

01:23:20.000 I mean, I think one of the issues has always been that the marketing tactic says one thing, but the demand is something else, right?

01:23:27.000 They just want certain people to be allowed to do things that they want.

01:23:30.000 They are willing to excuse your violence or your lawlessness if you support their idea of who should be forgiven.

01:23:37.000 And once again, the first people who are going to be the victims of violent crime are going to be the poor.

01:23:42.000 Like, it just goes back to that again.

01:23:42.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 They're the most likely to be killed, raped, whatever, all this other stuff, and they're the least likely to have access to legal services to have some kind of retribution or justice.

01:23:51.000 It's horrifying.

01:23:52.000 Well, and then they're trapped in communities that have all of these issues and we never find a way to solve them because ultimately we're funding it by saying, we don't need to really investigate these causes.

01:24:02.000 We'll just say, here's money, we'll fix it.

01:24:04.000 Also, we'll let you out of jail, go back in the community, we'll never address the core issues.

01:24:08.000 It's just the cycle that we create.

01:24:09.000 And it just drives me crazy, this hand-waving from conservatives, like, well, they shouldn't have voted Democrat.

01:24:12.000 Fine.

01:24:13.000 I'm stuck in the projects.

01:24:14.000 I hate this. 0.99

01:24:15.000 My life is screwed. 1.00

01:24:16.000 I go and vote Republican. 0.99

01:24:17.000 What's going to change?

01:24:18.000 Everyone else around me is voting Democrat.

01:24:20.000 What am I supposed to do?

01:24:21.000 This system's been busted for a hundred years.

01:24:23.000 Move, I guess, but I can't afford it.

01:24:24.000 I'm in the projects.

01:24:25.000 I don't have four to move.

01:24:27.000 Not everyone who is poor is poor because of choice that they've made.

01:24:30.000 But this is another important distinction.

01:24:31.000 A person who has a house is not poor relative to someone a hundred or two hundred years ago.

01:24:36.000 Absolutely.

01:24:38.000 It's interesting to see that people are now saying, like, I can't move, I can't afford to move.

01:24:41.000 And I'm like, do you live somewhere?

01:24:42.000 Yeah, I live in government housing.

01:24:43.000 I'm like, there's this great line in Fast and Furious 4, where the bad guy says... Would I follow this line if I haven't seen the first three?

01:24:51.000 Yes.

01:24:51.000 Okay.

01:24:52.000 I'm paraphrasing, but he says, if I give them things, they become dependent upon me, and then they serve me.

01:24:59.000 And so these people who are like, yeah, I know that what's happening in my city is wrong.

01:25:03.000 I know what they're doing is evil, but I can't move because I'm stuck here.

01:25:06.000 And it's like, that was the plan.

01:25:08.000 You are dependent on them.

01:25:10.000 And now they beat you and you can't do anything about it.

01:25:13.000 Except for cheer for them.

01:25:14.000 Right.

01:25:14.000 There's an article I read a while ago about a study on universal basic income and they were trying to find women, I think in Jackson, Mississippi, to come be a part of this UBI test for like a year.

01:25:24.000 And when they were approaching women, they were like, well, the thing is, I don't want to lose my benefits because once I have them, it's difficult.

01:25:30.000 If I lose them, it's difficult to get back on them.

01:25:32.000 So it's better to maintain them for as long as I can.

01:25:35.000 And that's a really interesting system, right?

01:25:37.000 Because ultimately, theoretically, any sort of social service like that would be to help you for a small amount of time to get back on your feet.

01:25:44.000 To transition you.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, and that's not the way it works out in reality.

01:25:47.000 And if it was more of a private charity system, they would be much more hands-on.

01:25:50.000 You'd have more one-on-one relationships or one-to-ten, you know, maybe some kind of classes.

01:25:53.000 and they would be focusing on transitioning people from poverty.

01:25:55.000 Right.

01:25:56.000 Like, there's this great charity that Penn Jillette worked for when he was on

01:25:59.000 The Apprentice twice called Opportunity Village, where people who were mentally 0.93

01:26:03.000 disabled, it's like in Vegas, they give them jobs. So, like, they made Elvis's costumes. Like, 0.87

01:26:07.000 they're not going to be able to build rocket ships, but they can have some dignity.

01:26:10.000 They can mine cobalt.

01:26:11.000 Yeah.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, man.

01:26:12.000 Unemployment should be you get some little bit, but then if you get a job, you get more, and then that lasts for six months, and then you're only eligible every five years to get that path or something.

01:26:21.000 There should be an incentive to get a job.

01:26:22.000 But we could also head this off in schools, right?

01:26:24.000 Like, we could have high schoolers who are all graduating with the requirement that they have some level of financial literacy, that they understand the consequences of credit card debt, of student loans, but we don't do that, right?

01:26:34.000 And the obvious example with student loans is that the government wants you to agree to take out student loans, which are crippling, That at 18 you may not know the consequences of and that you are dependent on them.

01:26:43.000 You are waiting for Joe Biden to forgive them and hopefully he will and maybe if we vote for him again he'll finally forgive the student loans that are ruining my life.

01:26:49.000 Or transition from college is this liberal arts idea of this like 1890s creating the next generation of elites to have more of a mentorship apprenticeship program.

01:26:56.000 Agreed.

01:26:56.000 Instead of four years at Yale I'm spending four years at some company and I'm starting from the bottom and I have a mentor within the company who teaches me the ropes.

01:27:04.000 I got an idea.

01:27:05.000 Abolish public schooling.

01:27:07.000 That's a little extreme, Tim.

01:27:09.000 I'm for it.

01:27:10.000 Are you for it?

01:27:11.000 Are you kidding me?

01:27:11.000 That's the first thing I'd abolish.

01:27:13.000 Okay then, so we're in agreement.

01:27:14.000 Number one.

01:27:15.000 Yes.

01:27:15.000 Public schooling is gone.

01:27:17.000 Government schools are literal prisons for children.

01:27:19.000 It's the only place many people ever encounter violence in their lives.

01:27:22.000 You ever see the story about the kid in Chicago?

01:27:24.000 They're literal prisons!

01:27:25.000 The kid in Chicago was locked in a padded room and then they wouldn't let him go to the bathroom so he crapped himself and was crying.

01:27:33.000 The school, a school in Chicago had a padded room to lock kids in. 0.97

01:27:36.000 I remember there was audio where he's like, please, I'll be good.

01:27:38.000 Let me out.

01:27:39.000 Yep.

01:27:39.000 You could hear the kid crying.

01:27:41.000 Some of those are like daycare, like parents that work.

01:27:43.000 They're all single parent.

01:27:44.000 Yeah.

01:27:45.000 So if you abolished it, all those kids would be homeless essentially.

01:27:47.000 That's why we have a lot of work to do.

01:27:49.000 No fault divorce, gone.

01:27:51.000 Okay.

01:27:52.000 19th amendment, gone.

01:27:53.000 Well, I don't know about that.

01:27:54.000 17th amendment for sure.

01:27:55.000 Which was that?

01:27:56.000 The senators are elected.

01:27:57.000 Oh, that's a no brainer.

01:27:57.000 Yes.

01:28:00.000 I was talking to some Missouri State Reps saying this should be the thing that you make your bones on.

01:28:08.000 You should get rid of no-fault divorce in your state because as soon as one state does it all the other states will follow. 0.99

01:28:13.000 I think this is something the culture really wants to change and we see that the argument like oh you know people don't believe abuse or whatever else like those things are so different in the modern era and restructuring the family and creating social support systems that begin at home is really important.

01:28:27.000 There was a story that since the overturning of Roe... No fault divorce, you take that away, you're going to be getting a lot more rape accusations for innocent men.

01:28:36.000 Because why wouldn't women play that card? 1.00

01:28:39.000 Right, that's a cultural problem.

01:28:40.000 Yes, it is.

01:28:41.000 But, St.

01:28:42.000 Lovie?

01:28:43.000 I don't think C'est La Vie, I mean this is a moral hazard.

01:28:47.000 Women will commit crimes, therefore we should not fix the system. 1.00

01:28:52.000 I don't think so.

01:28:53.000 I'm just saying, if you're going to tear down a fence, you should be aware why it was put up and what the consequences could be.

01:28:58.000 Just anticipate them.

01:28:59.000 I don't think the fence was put up because people were concerned about false right-back accusations.

01:29:03.000 I think the left is trying to just destroy this country.

01:29:06.000 Sure, but what I'm saying is, I think people in this country generally are not used to the concept of trade-offs.

01:29:14.000 Right.

01:29:15.000 And just because something is a good thing, does it mean, like the idea that, for example, let's suppose the vaccines actually prevented COVID and COVID was deadly, but you're probably going to get the flu for two weeks.

01:29:26.000 It's a cost, but it's a cost you're willing to pay because the cost outweighs the bigger cost.

01:29:31.000 So, but people don't think of those terms.

01:29:32.000 Like, you can't say, like, this is something you have to do, even though it's going to hurt a little bit.

01:29:36.000 It has to be, this is something that has to do, and there's never a cost to it.

01:29:39.000 It's called opportunity cost economics.

01:29:41.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

01:29:42.000 I think the issue for humans is that they only ever want to drift towards the path of least resistance.

01:29:47.000 And so the reason why you have wokeness today is that Uh, all that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.

01:29:53.000 So when the woke left starts causing destruction, damage, pain, and suffering, it is easier just to bow your head and say, let it go, let it go, you'll choose your battles, and now here we are.

01:30:02.000 Another big problem is when people become obsessively goal-oriented and it's like, I want that goal at any cost.

01:30:06.000 If the goal is to remove the fence, Really what we should be doing is making a plan as to how we're going to take that fence down because there's a lot of ways the fence could get removed.

01:30:15.000 There's a lot of ways that the Department of Education could disappear and one of them would be like the United States disappearing or like a global conglomeration.

01:30:21.000 Now you're speaking Michael's language.

01:30:22.000 So we got to be real careful about how we're going to disassemble this thing if we want to do it and still maintain semblance of peace and order.

01:30:29.000 There's a book by Carol Markowitz and Bethany Mandel called Stolen Youth, which I just read.

01:30:34.000 You think that a lot of the stuff that's going on in schools, like right-wing propaganda and people frothing at the mouth, but the receipts you see and talking to parents about what's going on in schools, because we're not in school, so we're kind of oblivious to it.

01:30:49.000 Everything's secondhand.

01:30:50.000 It is so effed up.

01:30:52.000 I don't even know where to start.

01:30:53.000 Right, and then the left lies and says it's not happening.

01:30:55.000 And the media covers for them, even though it's like, here's the book, here's the receipts.

01:30:59.000 They go, nope, information's good, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:31:02.000 Math is good, but a lot of that stuff, it was real America-centric.

01:31:06.000 My history lessons, Columbus sailed the ocean blue and discovered America.

01:31:09.000 I don't think we need to teach our kids that in the future.

01:31:12.000 I'm open to living on a farm in some foreign country and just teaching the kid how to farm and eat fruit and identify plants and the real important stuff.

01:31:22.000 Math is good, too.

01:31:23.000 I don't know if I'm totally responding to what you're saying, but I disagree.

01:31:26.000 I think having a sense of patriotism is good, and I think it is a way to build common ground between people who come from different socioeconomic backgrounds.

01:31:34.000 I think if we just made it as like, well, America's just whatever, it will actually further stratify the cultural enclaves that we have in this country.

01:31:41.000 Here are things we aren't taught in schools.

01:31:43.000 How to fill out an income tax form.

01:31:45.000 How to work the legal system works.

01:31:47.000 Logical fallacies.

01:31:49.000 If there was just a course, I learned in junior high how to calculate the dew point in Brooklyn and how to calculate when the water's saturated in the earth when there's too much rain.

01:31:58.000 I was not taught to calculate interest rates or- I learned about photosynthesis.

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:03.000 Helped me out a lot.

01:32:04.000 Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cells.

01:32:06.000 Yeah, that was an important one.

01:32:07.000 So it's crazy what the priorities are.

01:32:07.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 We could say this is like a financial literacy course.

01:32:11.000 You have to be able to be able to take care of yourself.

01:32:13.000 You have to be able to understand how to read your lease or, you know, all these basic things.

01:32:16.000 When I was a kid, They made us watch a cartoon where Adam was riding a brontosaurus.

01:32:23.000 Adam who?

01:32:24.000 Oh, Adam and Eve?

01:32:24.000 Adam.

01:32:25.000 Who do you think he's talking about?

01:32:27.000 He was riding a brontosaurus.

01:32:29.000 Did you go to public school?

01:32:31.000 It was a private Catholic school.

01:32:32.000 Confusion, Catholic school.

01:32:34.000 And then they were basically like, the reason the dinosaurs died was because they couldn't fit on the ark.

01:32:38.000 They were too big.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, the propagandists.

01:32:41.000 But there were small dinosaurs.

01:32:42.000 Well, you know, the point is... Well, they didn't want to leave their friends behind.

01:32:45.000 That doesn't make sense, but those are the funniest small ones.

01:32:49.000 They didn't want to let them starve.

01:32:51.000 Dinosaurs survived.

01:32:52.000 They're in my backyard.

01:32:53.000 There's a bunch of them.

01:32:54.000 They're screaming all day.

01:32:56.000 Yes.

01:32:57.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 The chickens.

01:32:57.000 It is hilarious.

01:32:58.000 I was going to ask a really ridiculous question.

01:33:00.000 Ian, come on, this is your best.

01:33:02.000 I don't want to date the video or deranked.

01:33:06.000 We'll save it for the members on the after show.

01:33:08.000 We're going to go to Superchats anyway.

01:33:09.000 It's not going to fit, but maybe I'll do it.

01:33:10.000 All right.

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01:33:19.000 And we are going to talk about the Roseanne thing in the back.

01:33:21.000 There's a big thing apparently.

01:33:22.000 Michael was like, no, it's a big deal.

01:33:24.000 Everyone's going to be really excited to hear about Roseanne.

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01:34:00.000 We're trying to get as many sales as possible.

01:34:02.000 TheBestSongEver.com.

01:34:03.000 We need your support and I'm really excited because it'll mean that Jeremy Boring, Michael Knowles, Tim Pool, Carter Banks, we will all be on the billboard charts.

01:34:11.000 I think we're there in some fashion, probably at a low ranking right now.

01:34:14.000 We need to sell, I don't think, we're definitely not going to hit it.

01:34:17.000 If we sold like 50,000 we'd be hot 100.

01:34:19.000 and then you're on the list. Do you know how close you are?

01:34:21.000 We're not gonna hit it. We're like 25% maybe.

01:34:24.000 If everybody listening right now went to thebestsongever.com and downloaded it,

01:34:30.000 then Together Again would very likely be a hot 100 song, and it would be the funniest thing ever

01:34:35.000 because then the entertainment media would have to write about why we were able to do this,

01:34:40.000 how we were able to do it.

01:34:41.000 No, they say you hacked the system.

01:34:43.000 And I want them to.

01:34:44.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:34:45.000 Because if encouraging your fans to buy a song is hacking the system, what does that say about them?

01:34:49.000 Because the reality of the music industry is it's fake.

01:34:52.000 All of it is fake.

01:34:53.000 For decades.

01:34:54.000 For decades.

01:34:54.000 The way it works is there's deals upon deals.

01:34:57.000 One company has a deal with another company.

01:34:58.000 You want your song in rotation.

01:35:00.000 This is what really is so irksome.

01:35:04.000 It's not just that they told, you know the story they told Jeremy Boring?

01:35:08.000 He offered him 150 grand to play one song one time and they told him no.

01:35:12.000 And likely for political reasons.

01:35:13.000 Sure, certainly for political reasons.

01:35:15.000 When we published our first song and it was not even political, we got an email back from one entertainment publication saying, go F yourselves.

01:35:22.000 In those words?

01:35:22.000 In those words.

01:35:24.000 And so, that I get.

01:35:25.000 Welcome to the world.

01:35:26.000 Also, there's issues with they're like, oh no, the numbers aren't being tracked properly.

01:35:29.000 I think we're looking at something like 2,000 or like whoopsie daisies.

01:35:33.000 But the issue that really bugs me is when you see these songs charting, you're like, who's this guy?

01:35:38.000 We look at the chart, we're like, what is this band?

01:35:39.000 I've never even heard of it.

01:35:40.000 Because what they'll do is the label will go to a streaming platform and they'll say, Do you want, insert celebrity artist, then you've got to guarantee us that you're going to put this guy on rotation and we want this song played every 16 times, which guarantees them X million hits, which guarantees them charting on Billboard and all of these things.

01:35:59.000 And so when we're talking to various people in the industry and we're like, what do we have to do to hit these, you know, these same metrics?

01:36:06.000 Like, how do we get a, we have a new song, it's in this genre, it's in this, they'll never let you in.

01:36:10.000 Here's the other thing.

01:36:11.000 I know a lot about this from my genre, which is publishing.

01:36:14.000 The New York Times bestseller list, which is by all accounts the most respected and desirable list that you get on, it has very little to do with sales.

01:36:21.000 It's all editorial.

01:36:22.000 They don't even tell you what the rankings are.

01:36:25.000 If you have a lot of sales, they could just flat out ignore you.

01:36:27.000 Regnery, which is a publishing house for conservatives, So here's what I'm hoping.

01:36:30.000 they don't even submit to the New York Times list anymore because they said it was so fake,

01:36:33.000 which is kind of frustrating for those regulatory authors who sell a lot of books,

01:36:36.000 but they literally are explicit about like, even people who work for the New York Times

01:36:40.000 don't know how they make up these rankings. So here's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that we can,

01:36:44.000 we'll force our way in.

01:36:47.000 And look, it really just comes down to this.

01:36:47.000 Yes.

01:36:49.000 First and foremost, Cast Brew Coffee, we're on track for over a million dollars in our first year.

01:36:54.000 When we were doing our filing, we had this like, this third party contractor is like helping us out.

01:36:58.000 And they were like, when do you start the business?

01:37:00.000 And we were like, April.

01:37:01.000 And they went, what?

01:37:02.000 You know when you know you've made it?

01:37:03.000 to hear how well it was doing. So thank you everybody supporting Casper and the coffee

01:37:07.000 shops currently underway. Furniture and tables and everything for the club is happening so

01:37:11.000 that should be opening hopefully in the next couple of months and there will be a physical

01:37:14.000 location to hang out. I know it's taking too long to get the coffee shop up but it's because

01:37:17.000 of regulations and building code and stuff like that. But we're also just trying to we

01:37:22.000 want to make music we want to make music we want to sell it so we're hoping people buy

01:37:25.000 it. You know when you know you've made it when you have the articles talk about how

01:37:28.000 much your music sucks because first they ignore you then they have to laugh at you and denigrate 0.81

01:37:32.000 That's the next step. 0.99

01:37:33.000 I feel like you've forced together again already.

01:37:36.000 Now it's been forced, now it's just riding.

01:37:38.000 Like it's hot in Toronto.

01:37:40.000 I heard it's hot in Asia somewhere.

01:37:41.000 I guess we were trending in Toronto and Hong Kong.

01:37:43.000 I think it made it.

01:37:44.000 Like now it's good just to rest on it and chill.

01:37:47.000 I'm going to get on the Japanese TikTok.

01:37:49.000 We know the sales numbers and they're good, but they're nowhere near where we would need them to be.

01:37:54.000 And so that's fine, that's fine. I'm not like- Pumping money into promotion now.

01:37:57.000 We're spending a lot on marketing, and it is what it is.

01:38:01.000 We've sold what we could sell. We have today and tomorrow.

01:38:04.000 Tomorrow's the last day.

01:38:05.000 So like I said, if everybody listening right now went to thebestsongever.com and bought the song,

01:38:09.000 we would absolutely hit Hot 100.

01:38:11.000 When we're finally able to do that is when they're going to drop a load in their pants.

01:38:14.000 Actually, I think it's when it- Because this is industry only.

01:38:17.000 It's when it gets into a movie, like a really popular- No, no, no, dude.

01:38:20.000 If it gets into a big popular movie, then it's like outside of your hands because it's the kind of song where people are going to pick it up and play it locally.

01:38:20.000 Just listen, man.

01:38:28.000 We have been dealing with this for two years now.

01:38:32.000 Our first song was published in 2020.

01:38:33.000 I was like, I don't even know how to make it work.

01:38:36.000 And it got millions of fits.

01:38:37.000 People know the song, Will of the People.

01:38:39.000 It did really, really well.

01:38:40.000 We get spat on.

01:38:40.000 We get ripped off.

01:38:42.000 You don't just get in a movie.

01:38:43.000 That's extremely political.

01:38:45.000 It's all politics.

01:38:47.000 There's no circumstance where our songs land in movies.

01:38:49.000 Well, if you say that out loud, sure.

01:38:51.000 It's a fact.

01:38:52.000 You want that to not happen, go for it.

01:38:53.000 I mean, it could definitely land in a movie.

01:38:55.000 It's an awesome song.

01:38:56.000 That's not how it works.

01:38:57.000 That's not how it works.

01:38:58.000 You're wrong.

01:38:58.000 I'm not saying it's going to be in Paramount's next feature, but it could, in four years, it could land in a movie.

01:39:03.000 After we win the culture war, perhaps, yes. 0.96

01:39:05.000 The way it works is a guy in Hollywood goes to his friend across the street and says, what song do you want placed in the movie?

01:39:12.000 End of story.

01:39:12.000 It could be in Daily Wire's next big thing.

01:39:14.000 No, but hold on.

01:39:15.000 Can I say one thing?

01:39:15.000 In all seriousness, how it works is the CAA director casts CAA actors and actresses and has a CAA production assistant and has CAA affiliated musicians to do the soundtrack.

01:39:29.000 These big agencies work that way.

01:39:31.000 And so this is my point.

01:39:39.000 Yes, you're right.

01:39:40.000 It could get in the Daily Wire.

01:39:42.000 And what would the Daily Wire do for us?

01:39:43.000 Are they going to get us on CAA, UTA, or any of these big networks?

01:39:46.000 No.

01:39:47.000 It could, as the Daily Wire is doing now, help drive sales, which is why we teamed up with them.

01:39:52.000 Both of, both Jeremy Boring, Michael Knowles, me, Carter Banks, are all like, we have been pushing back on woke industries and their control of these systems, so the only thing they cannot prevent is if we sell enough, we hit hot 100, and then the entertainment media is gonna be dropping a load in their pants, being like, they are invading our spaces and we can't stop them.

01:40:11.000 And the other thing is, it's not just specifically woke, it's also in-group and out-group.

01:40:15.000 Right?

01:40:15.000 Right.

01:40:15.000 It's just simply that, like, we're all friends in LA, like, we work together.

01:40:19.000 Who's this guy from Shelbyville?

01:40:21.000 It's just not happening.

01:40:22.000 We don't want someone to take our power from us.

01:40:25.000 Yes, exactly.

01:40:26.000 So we've built walls around the industry that you have to come to us and pay your dues.

01:40:30.000 You gotta join our unions, you gotta file your paperwork with us, and we say if your music is good or not.

01:40:35.000 There's a song I really, really like.

01:40:36.000 We determine.

01:40:37.000 Yes.

01:40:37.000 There's a song I really, really like, and it was on my rotation in my playlist when I'm skating.

01:40:43.000 And I looked at the song, it had 1,500 views on YouTube.

01:40:47.000 That was it.

01:40:47.000 There were articles written about this song, and I was like, that is what they do.

01:40:52.000 They decide that some guy who produced a song in his garage, and he did, and it's a good song, they decided we're gonna make this song.

01:40:58.000 And you know what else they do?

01:40:59.000 They own it.

01:41:00.000 So when someone like us says, we're gonna make our own music, they say, we don't own it, so you're not welcome here.

01:41:06.000 Right.

01:41:07.000 You're not welcome.

01:41:07.000 When our publicist said, here's a new song, we literally got back an email saying, go F yourselves.

01:41:13.000 And so I'm just like, war.

01:41:15.000 But that was for me, to be fair.

01:41:16.000 Yeah.

01:41:17.000 War.

01:41:18.000 You just get so aggressive about music.

01:41:20.000 It's the Dr. Pepper Zero.

01:41:22.000 You ask yourself why it is that when you open Pandora, Spotify, or whatever, and you open a playlist, there's music on it.

01:41:27.000 Who chooses that?

01:41:29.000 You can be friends with some of these guys.

01:41:31.000 Let's say you're a musician and you know a guy who works at this place, you might find your song in rotation.

01:41:35.000 Congratulations.

01:41:36.000 I am such a hipster that when I was on Rogue, and I think the time before last, I wore a t-shirt from a Tweed Pop band, that I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get all these accolades, because not one person knew the band.

01:41:47.000 Not one person in the comments anywhere was like, oh, he likes that band.

01:41:50.000 So we're going to read some super super chats.

01:41:52.000 Let's do it.

01:41:53.000 Clint Torres hits the first super chat again with howdy people and Drizala.

01:41:57.000 Sorry.

01:41:57.000 He says first with a, you know, fingers.

01:42:00.000 No, you are not first.

01:42:01.000 Sorry.

01:42:02.000 Robert Suppenbach says first.

01:42:04.000 Please unblock me, Michael.

01:42:07.000 I don't even know.

01:42:08.000 I don't know who you are.

01:42:10.000 That seems like it's not true.

01:42:11.000 I feel like there's deception.

01:42:12.000 I block people on the regular.

01:42:14.000 It's not a BS ruling, it's a testing of the waters.

01:42:16.000 Maybe it's legally BS, but it's politically testing the waters.

01:42:18.000 from the ballot has a stay until January 4th.

01:42:20.000 There is also a clause that states if it is challenged to the US Supreme Court, that stay

01:42:24.000 becomes indefinite, meaning this is a BS ruling.

01:42:27.000 It's not a BS ruling, it's a testing of the waters.

01:42:29.000 Maybe it's legally BS, but it's politically testing the waters.

01:42:32.000 Yeah.

01:42:33.000 52 Movies a Year says, Michael, when will you be paying Roseanne her 1K?

01:42:38.000 We will talk about this in the members only show because Michael has like a huge thing about it.

01:42:41.000 I had I've had a 20 minute imaginary argument with you guys.

01:42:44.000 Okay.

01:42:44.000 He's he's he's he's mapped out the entire conversation.

01:42:47.000 Champing at the bit.

01:42:47.000 Yeah, and he's and he's he's bested us before we even realize it.

01:42:50.000 I'm not saying I won the imaginary argument.

01:42:52.000 I'm just saying I had it.

01:42:52.000 You've come prepared.

01:42:53.000 You have your documents.

01:42:54.000 All right.

01:42:54.000 Yes.

01:42:55.000 Unca Gug says how's Bocas doing? 0.99

01:42:57.000 Well, He's very chill.

01:43:03.000 Yeah.

01:43:03.000 He's walking around.

01:43:04.000 He's doing his thing.

01:43:06.000 I am kind of worried though.

01:43:07.000 He's relatively low energy.

01:43:09.000 His energy has been going down.

01:43:10.000 He's made it a year longer than we thought it was.

01:43:12.000 That we thought he would.

01:43:14.000 And the scary thing to me was that he's trying to hide a lot.

01:43:18.000 That's bad.

01:43:19.000 Yes.

01:43:19.000 An indication that he feels sick.

01:43:21.000 Yeah.

01:43:22.000 Depends on his mood a lot of times.

01:43:23.000 Cats are really in tune with how you feel, so if there's stress in the environment, they'll go away from it, and if you're really in a good mood, they'll come join you.

01:43:30.000 My cat never hid from me, and right at the end of his life, the only time he ever hid from me, it was really sad.

01:43:35.000 That's giving in to the leftian.

01:43:38.000 Yeah, cats go and hide because when they're sick, they try to protect themselves from predators by hiding.

01:43:42.000 Intention can make you sick.

01:43:44.000 Yeah, I don't think Mr. Bocas can psychically sense our emotions. 0.88

01:43:47.000 I think he is sick because his kidneys are failing, and so he is hiding because it's an instinct cats have to hide from predators when they're weak.

01:43:54.000 And for this, the more he tries to hide, the more worried I become.

01:43:57.000 If it was just that some people here are stressed out, I actually wouldn't feel bad at all!

01:44:01.000 But I choose not to live in those worlds.

01:44:03.000 I choose to live in the world of medical science.

01:44:05.000 Sometimes it's like a self-perpetuating cycle where cat looks ill, and then you become nervous and sad, and then the cat becomes more ill, and then you become more sad.

01:44:14.000 But if you can stay positive, he comes back out and he gets very active.

01:44:19.000 Drewish AF says, Tim, I cannot use PayPal, so I can't buy the best song ever as your link to receive the Casper discount.

01:44:28.000 Any alternatives for longtime Timcast members?

01:44:31.000 I think that was basically the only way we could actually make that work.

01:44:34.000 You can buy the song on iTunes, and we were number one on iTunes in the first day, which is awesome, but we are not pushing iTunes sales because we have this discount code.

01:44:44.000 Sure.

01:44:44.000 But iTunes and Amazon, if you go to TheBestSongEver.com, there's Amazon as well.

01:44:50.000 And I know nobody likes these things, but look, we're just trying to storm the gates.

01:44:54.000 It is what it is.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, unfortunately that was the best way we could do it.

01:44:59.000 The sale for, a lot of people have pointed this out, if you want to buy the song and get the discount code, the default is PayPal.

01:45:06.000 But I think you just enter your, you don't need an account or anything, you just use your credit card and it processes by PayPal.

01:45:10.000 And one thing I also want to point out, because being Mr. White Pill here, what?

01:45:13.000 You got another one?

01:45:14.000 Of course, yeah.

01:45:16.000 I just have like a vending machine on the desk.

01:45:19.000 I think for people who think that America is doomed or the West is doomed, first of all, I always say we don't need a majority, we just need an alternative.

01:45:26.000 Yeah.

01:45:26.000 But there are so many people, especially young people, who are champing at the bit to be able to support creators that they like and are just like, how can I support you?

01:45:35.000 Give me a product to buy.

01:45:36.000 I want to wear the shirts.

01:45:37.000 I want to buy your music.

01:45:39.000 So if you do have that number, and I think the number is very clearly increasing, that also bodes very well for the future of our culture.

01:45:45.000 You know, I don't think the United States is doomed, but, like, Nazi Germany... Germany wasn't doomed because of what happened in the 30s.

01:45:52.000 It just changed.

01:45:53.000 And that's where I feel like the United States is headed.

01:45:55.000 Well, I mean, Germany was invaded and split in half, so I don't... I think, you know, and leveled.

01:45:59.000 I mean, they were bombed to oblivion.

01:46:01.000 We got a good one here from NaM80. 0.80

01:46:03.000 He says, maybe the Civil War statues are being removed to make room for the upcoming Civil War statues.

01:46:07.000 Foreshadowing.

01:46:11.000 Yikes, that's a good one.

01:46:12.000 Yeah, I like that one.

01:46:15.000 Oh boy Based Jew says dear Tim. 1.00

01:46:18.000 Please find a way to bring the insane clown posse on to the culture war woo-woo I think we did talk about booking them one Yeah, violent. 0.97

01:46:26.000 I violent J's autobiography is very good.

01:46:28.000 Yeah, what's their politics like are they they're they're lefties They're they're very here i this is a red pill moment for me i remember like this must have been 10-15 years ago i had one of their albums friend gave it to me and it's actually there's like what there's a song called still stabbing because like it starts with i still have this stabbing problem it's a sequel to the song stabbing and i had a job interview and the guy interviewing me was like 27 i was just mentioned i maybe wasn't job interview so he was like my uh i was doing temping work

01:46:54.000 And I was talking about this band and he sings about throwing the head of the record label out the window and he rides on the bicycle seat without the seat because he killed the post worker. 0.94

01:47:03.000 And he goes, yeah, man, some people are so crazy. 0.98

01:47:06.000 And I'm like, they call themselves clowns. 0.99

01:47:08.000 They wear clown makeup. 0.91

01:47:10.000 How many cues do you need that this is a joke? 0.93

01:47:14.000 I like that the FBI classifies them as sort of a terrorist organization, the Juggalos. 1.00

01:47:19.000 The juggalos get a bad rap and ICP has some good music.

01:47:21.000 This would be a great culture war.

01:47:23.000 This is what I spent the beginning of 2020 pandemic researching.

01:47:26.000 And on my Facebook, there's a picture of me.

01:47:27.000 I did a face paint as Violent J once.

01:47:30.000 So I would love to meet Violent J or Shaggy. 0.94

01:47:32.000 All right, Hunter Killer says, with this ruling, they're getting dangerously close to a contingent election happening.

01:47:38.000 Yeah, I think that's another possibility.

01:47:40.000 We may see Trump v. DeSantis, RFK, Biden in 2024, if the GOP is split.

01:47:47.000 They pull Trump off the ballot, DeSantis wins, Donald Trump runs as an independent, RFK independent, then it's Democrat, Republican, independent, independent.

01:47:55.000 Donald Trump, of course, wins the plurality, which gives him Well, the plurality of numbers, but not the Electoral College, which results in a contingent election where state delegations will then have to choose.

01:48:05.000 Donald Trump then wins.

01:48:06.000 The left then says, Trump not only didn't win, he only got 27% of the vote, or, you know, 31% didn't even win the Electoral College, and his cronies appointed him, and they'll use it as justification for their extreme violence.

01:48:21.000 It's not impossible.

01:48:22.000 I think it's very unlikely.

01:48:23.000 Agreed.

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:24.000 Okay.

01:48:24.000 Yeah.

01:48:25.000 All right.

01:48:25.000 Marian Holtzman says, All right.

01:48:27.000 I bought the song.

01:48:28.000 Everybody come on now.

01:48:28.000 69 cents is very reasonable.

01:48:30.000 Support our culture war.

01:48:32.000 I'll say this.

01:48:33.000 We put out the song Bright Eyes and we did nothing to promote it.

01:48:36.000 It was fun to make.

01:48:37.000 We made a music video for it.

01:48:38.000 We had a good time.

01:48:39.000 It is what it is.

01:48:41.000 I also recognize it's not just about, hey, we made a song quick, everybody have to buy it.

01:48:44.000 It's we need like 5,000 songs.

01:48:47.000 We need a massive library.

01:48:48.000 What we can't do is make movies.

01:48:50.000 We're not movie people.

01:48:51.000 But I grew up playing music.

01:48:52.000 Ian plays music.

01:48:53.000 Carter Banks is an amazing producer.

01:48:55.000 And the quality of the music videos you've produced has actually got a lot of industry guys really excited.

01:49:01.000 Sorry, I don't want to interrupt you.

01:49:02.000 No, no, no.

01:49:03.000 I was going to make a big announcement today, but it was too close to the holidays.

01:49:06.000 But my next project is I wrote a screenplay about this band from the 80s that never made it.

01:49:12.000 It's a real band.

01:49:13.000 And through the keyboard player, I met Harvey Pekar, who wrote a graphic novel about me called Ego and Hubris.

01:49:17.000 So I realized I had this script in my desk since 2004.

01:49:20.000 I should make a graphic novel of it.

01:49:22.000 And it's the real story of this band.

01:49:24.000 And I'm like, I was going to start my Indiegogo, but I'm going to do it when I was going to launch on the show and see if we could fund it live.

01:49:30.000 But I'll come back when I'm ready to do it.

01:49:32.000 We're going to have a completed album, I think, around like maybe February or March.

01:49:37.000 I think March.

01:49:38.000 And so that means there's probably going to be like three or four songs that we never do big releases for.

01:49:42.000 Like every song we've put out has been a video and a promotion because we're like, we're going to come in with a bang.

01:49:48.000 But we really are just coming to the point where we're negotiating with some bands on signing some bands.

01:49:52.000 We need some more artists.

01:49:54.000 Ideally, we just get to the point where we spend a million bucks, get like 500 songs from a bunch of different artists out, and we just... We want to funnel money into creative people.

01:50:03.000 It's not just about the music that I or Carter is making.

01:50:06.000 We're just not at this point yet because we're small.

01:50:09.000 It's like Carter's the one guy who's running all this stuff.

01:50:12.000 Ideally, within the next year, we have two or three more bands, some producers, and we're putting out like two or three songs a month from different artists.

01:50:18.000 And so that's where we're going.

01:50:19.000 That's where we're going.

01:50:20.000 That's the plan.

01:50:21.000 This one that we're releasing now is kind of like, I called Jeremy Boring and I was like, I got this idea.

01:50:26.000 And I explained to him what we wanted to do and he laughed his ass off and was like, let's roll, baby.

01:50:30.000 He told the story about, he offered 100 times the market rate to play a song, $150,000, and they told him no.

01:50:37.000 And he was like, we know why.

01:50:39.000 Yeah.

01:50:41.000 They're gatekeeping.

01:50:42.000 And it's not irrational on their part, because if they get the foot in the door, then it's all over.

01:50:46.000 Yep.

01:50:47.000 It's crazy.

01:50:47.000 So we made a fake song mocking them called Together Again.

01:50:50.000 And then I said, let's make a modern version of this and put it out there and just promote it like crazy and then get it on Billboard and then keep mocking them.

01:50:59.000 Tell them they can't keep us out.

01:51:01.000 We're banging on the door.

01:51:02.000 We're coming in.

01:51:03.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:51:04.000 TheBestSongEver.com.

01:51:06.000 All right, where are we at?

01:51:09.000 Bikin153 says, I think the reason Colorado is pushing so hard to get Trump off the ballot is because SB19042.

01:51:15.000 It was passed in 2019 and says that Colorado's electoral votes go to the winner of the national popular vote instead of who Colorado votes for.

01:51:24.000 Perhaps.

01:51:25.000 But the funny thing about that is that, uh, Michael made a good point about it.

01:51:28.000 The point I made in the past was it opens the door to California going Republican.

01:51:32.000 California is two-to-one Democrat, but they're part of this national vote coalition.

01:51:37.000 Meaning that if a Republican does win the popular vote, California votes Republican. 0.99

01:51:42.000 Which would never happen outside of this stupid plan they have. 0.99

01:51:45.000 But you made a better point. 0.99

01:51:46.000 My friend made a documentary about the electoral college and I'm blanking on the name and I feel really bad.

01:51:51.000 But one of the points he made in the movie is, if you have abolished electoral college and you just have the popular vote, it makes it a lot easier and encourages a white nationalist candidate.

01:52:01.000 Because all you have to do is advocate to whites, which are the biggest group by population in this country by far, and you get enough of them, you have the election. 1.00

01:52:08.000 Why pitch toward a group which is 2% or 13% of the population, when you could pitch to a group that's 50% of the population, and just with their numbers alone, a few from the others, you're going to have everything you take.

01:52:19.000 It's a very dangerous strategy on the part of the left.

01:52:25.000 Let's read some more.

01:52:26.000 Paul Tascalo says, I lost faith in our justice system in 2016 when Obama pardoned the Iranian bomb maker. 0.99

01:52:32.000 It made me sad.

01:52:33.000 What Colorado did to Trump yesterday makes me scared.

01:52:35.000 Well, hold on.

01:52:36.000 This drives me crazy because people think history started five minutes ago.

01:52:39.000 Bill Clinton pardoned terrorists who bombed Congress.

01:52:43.000 The FAL, or the FALN I think they were called, I don't remember what it was, but they were, I think, Puerto Rican separatists.

01:52:49.000 They bombed Congress, and Clinton, can you please look this up Ian?

01:52:52.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 So, talk about the insurrection, like, he let them free.

01:52:56.000 And they were unrepentant, they weren't like, we promise we'll never do it again.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, read this out loud, please.

01:53:03.000 There's a lot of data.

01:53:04.000 This is actually from congress.gov.

01:53:05.000 No, I was going to say, do you want to collect the... Yeah, I'll take a look and then I'll... Let me read this.

01:53:10.000 Toosna Lorem says, if civil war broke out, substations would get hit everywhere within a month.

01:53:14.000 The grid would never come up.

01:53:16.000 Feds and liberals in cities would lose to people capable of self-governance and survival within six months when their oil ran out with zero infrastructure. 0.74

01:53:24.000 I think more importantly, if there was an actual civil war, you'd see attacks on infrastructure instantly.

01:53:30.000 Industrial control systems are very vulnerable.

01:53:32.000 New York City would become hell.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, but you'd also very quickly see globalist backup.

01:53:36.000 So Europe would be coming in, China would be coming in.

01:53:39.000 The U.S.

01:53:40.000 doesn't exist as a larger city in a bubble of space.

01:53:43.000 But I still don't think New York can maintain a grid.

01:53:45.000 I'm not arguing with you.

01:53:46.000 It wouldn't be this simple.

01:53:47.000 No, no, for sure.

01:53:48.000 What I'm saying... Oh, yeah, right.

01:53:49.000 British trade routes would be pumping food into New York.

01:53:51.000 New York would be hell.

01:53:54.000 More so.

01:53:55.000 The power would be... They'd be fighting to keep the power on.

01:53:58.000 That means there's going to be water issues.

01:54:00.000 People without water are going to... I don't think they can save New York.

01:54:03.000 Yeah, but then look at the narrative then, because look what they're doing to these poor New Yorkers. 0.87

01:54:07.000 You know, the shining... It'll matter.

01:54:09.000 It'll matter to some people.

01:54:10.000 It'll matter to Karen.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, but we're in a civil war.

01:54:14.000 The civil war is the point of brother against brother. 0.96

01:54:18.000 They could say whatever they want on the radio and someone's going to be like, you're terrorist pedophiles, I don't care. 0.98

01:54:22.000 Right, but there's other people who would be like, no, they're the terrorist pedophiles. 0.99

01:54:25.000 Of course.

01:54:25.000 People in New York are going to be like, look what they're doing to us.

01:54:27.000 Yes, exactly.

01:54:28.000 And they'll be angry about it and that fuels civil war.

01:54:30.000 Sure, sure.

01:54:30.000 But New York is going to be a bunch of people eating each other.

01:54:33.000 And I'm not joking.

01:54:34.000 I mean, they will literally start consuming human bodies.

01:54:37.000 Ian, you have the data.

01:54:37.000 Oh yeah, this is the follow-up on the Clinton, pardon, F-A-L-N commutation, 1999.

01:54:42.000 It was Clinton's commute of the census.

01:54:45.000 16 members of this F-A-L-N, a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization that set up 120 bombs in the United States, mostly in New York City and Chicago.

01:54:55.000 I could go on and on about this.

01:54:56.000 I'm going to read this.

01:54:57.000 I'm not sure what he's saying.

01:54:58.000 He bombed terrorists.

01:54:59.000 This is 99.

01:55:00.000 Commuted, excuse me, terrorists.

01:55:02.000 Digital DNA says, Michael Malice, if you can't see how LEOs abuse the power of the system, you have no reason to talk.

01:55:08.000 What a foul opinion.

01:55:10.000 Your entire argument for anything else falls apart.

01:55:12.000 LEOs are the gatekeepers to how common folk move. 0.80

01:55:15.000 Wake up, buddy.

01:55:16.000 What are LEOs? 0.98

01:55:17.000 Cops.

01:55:17.000 Law enforcement officers.

01:55:20.000 You're an anarchist.

01:55:20.000 Who's he talking to?

01:55:22.000 I don't get this.

01:55:25.000 I want to hear your honest opinion.

01:55:26.000 I was having this conversation with a friend of mine.

01:55:28.000 Am I incorrect that I am probably the biggest person by far who has gotten right-of-center people red-pilled on the police?

01:55:36.000 Yeah, probably.

01:55:36.000 I can't think of who else would be.

01:55:38.000 Yeah.

01:55:39.000 I feel like a general opinion of the right is, we like our police officers, but too many police in big cities are completely corrupt and appointed by Democrats, which exposes the vulnerabilities of the policing system.

01:55:50.000 But I think also conservatives are now realizing who's going to come for your guns.

01:55:52.000 It's not going to be Pelosi.

01:55:53.000 Whereas 10 years ago, it was strictly thin blue line.

01:55:56.000 It's either us or the rioters.

01:55:58.000 Like, wait a minute, they're on the side of the rioters.

01:55:59.000 But I mean, you even look at when we were talking with Tucker and Charlie Kirk, they now understand Occupy Wall Street a lot better.

01:56:05.000 Sure. 0.93

01:56:06.000 These conversations have opened up, and we all agree Occupy was taken over by woke psychopaths. 0.70

01:56:10.000 I love someone having to tell me how bad the police are, and that they're basically doing what the government tells them.

01:56:15.000 This is fascinating stuff.

01:56:16.000 It's kind of worrying that they think less of the police than you.

01:56:19.000 Or maybe I'm getting trolled, in which case, well done.

01:56:22.000 Right.

01:56:23.000 Two Way Willie says, I also heard Don Jr.

01:56:25.000 defend Anheuser-Busch on your show.

01:56:27.000 Maybe him and Dana know better than us.

01:56:28.000 Maybe there's something there.

01:56:30.000 It's because Anheuser-Busch gives a ton of money to Republicans.

01:56:33.000 A lot.

01:56:33.000 And so... Do they give money to Democrats as well?

01:56:35.000 They often play that game where they play against both.

01:56:37.000 I think they give a substantially larger amount of money to Republicans.

01:56:42.000 Like a lot.

01:56:43.000 And so, look, it really just comes down to this.

01:56:46.000 The idea that when it comes to Bud Light, we just stop where we are and say, yay, boycott.

01:56:52.000 It's like you won a battlefield, and then all your troops laid down their weapons, sat down, and started cooking a roast.

01:56:57.000 And it's like, guys, we're still at war here.

01:56:59.000 Someone's got to be preparing for what our next move is.

01:57:01.000 Where are we going?

01:57:01.000 What are we doing?

01:57:02.000 And everyone's just like, no, no, we stay here!

01:57:04.000 And I'm like, no one forgave Paula Deen.

01:57:07.000 That's true.

01:57:07.000 I had Kurt Metzger on my show, who's a great comedian.

01:57:10.000 I don't know if you guys ever had him on.

01:57:11.000 I would highly recommend him.

01:57:12.000 And he goes, I did the homework.

01:57:14.000 This old, like, fat southern lady was robbed at gunpoint at a bank. 1.00

01:57:19.000 And that's the only- she had to be traumatized using racial slur. 1.00

01:57:23.000 And Kurt- this is Kurt's line.

01:57:24.000 He goes, they should build a statue to Paula Deen and have the plaque say she only said it once.

01:57:29.000 Like, she's the most- but that's the thing.

01:57:31.000 She's still a persona non grata.

01:57:32.000 My point on Bud Light is If conservatives' position is there is no redemption ever for any company that crosses them, that is exactly the meme of the left pushing the guy to the right and then arguing that he's joined ranks with the right.

01:57:50.000 There's redemption when there's... But look, I don't care about redemption.

01:57:55.000 I care about occupation.

01:57:56.000 That's fair, but the point is, I agree there's a room for redemption, but the gesture has to be, we learn from our mistakes and we won't do it again.

01:58:02.000 I think people can be redeemed, but corporations are just, shut them down.

01:58:08.000 A corporate apology matters in the culture war in that it resonates culturally.

01:58:12.000 Yes.

01:58:12.000 And so, if the argument from people right now is, and it is strongly, even in the chat, they're like, no, no, we must do nothing, we're stopping where we are.

01:58:20.000 I'm like, You need to take everything Sean Strickland has said and start cheering for that and Bud Light as a means to force Bud Light to issue a statement.

01:58:29.000 That makes much more sense to me, yes.

01:58:31.000 Yeah, I'm like, doing nothing, everyone's like, the boycott stays.

01:58:34.000 My position on Kid Rock, Dana White, Joe Rogan is, major cultural forces have argued for, we've won.

01:58:41.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:58:42.000 That means the victory and gain here is minimal, but at the very least, you send a message to corporate America, if you cross us, we destroy you, but if you side with us, we will make you wealthy.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, you punish the bad behavior, you reward good behavior.

01:58:55.000 I don't think you need to reward good behavior.

01:58:57.000 I think it's more of a march through the institution, where if they mess with you, you wound them, and then you continue your march.

01:59:03.000 And if another corporation does it again... That's not what march means.

01:59:05.000 March through institutions is Gramsci's idea, and the idea is you seize institutions one by one.

01:59:08.000 And no one's doing any of that.

01:59:10.000 No one's doing any of that.

01:59:11.000 The lefties are.

01:59:11.000 No, I'm saying right now on the right, they're like, we've won because we don't buy Bud Light.

01:59:16.000 Okay, come April, Bud Light will put $100 million into woke causes.

01:59:19.000 They're gonna say, the right has abandoned us and there's no recovery.

01:59:23.000 Our only growth opportunity, while minimal, will be woke causes.

01:59:27.000 It'll double down.

01:59:27.000 It'll bifurcate.

01:59:29.000 And I'm like, this is why there has to be a move made now, or the other option is to just say you won.

01:59:36.000 Kid Rock says we win, Joe Rogan says we win, don't you forget it.

01:59:40.000 That's all you can do.

01:59:40.000 I don't understand why Kid Rock and Joe Rogan would want to drink Bud Light.

01:59:44.000 Maybe I'm too much of a bougie Brooklyn person.

01:59:46.000 See, it makes me wonder, do they make ad money off of it?

01:59:48.000 Joe's not like that.

01:59:49.000 at some point did they show it's not like that it is it is really it is really it is really simple

01:59:54.000 bud light sponsored dylan mulvaney and it pissed everyone off and kid rock said that was bad

02:00:01.000 Bud Light gives UFC 100 million dollars, and says, oh okay, UFC is way more based, got way more people who are pro-Trump, Trump walks into UFC to fanfare, I think we got this one.

02:00:13.000 But people are like, not good enough.

02:00:15.000 If people's morals can be bought with money, we're screwed.

02:00:17.000 And they were mad at money in the first place.

02:00:19.000 They were mad that money went to Dylan Mulvaney, and they're not satisfied that money is coming in this direction.

02:00:24.000 Well, no, it was gender ideology stuff.

02:00:26.000 That was the principal reason.

02:00:26.000 I was mad that they were selling it to children.

02:00:27.000 Right, of course, and I agree with that.

02:00:29.000 And so the issue is...

02:00:31.000 Sending money to the UFC is a structural victory.

02:00:34.000 It's not the greatest culture war victory. 0.69

02:00:35.000 It's not exactly what you want, but if you're not satisfied with it, you cannot do nothing.

02:00:40.000 And the idea that all anyone has to do right now is just not buy Bud Light is wrong.

02:00:44.000 And so my argument has been, everyone please, Sean Strickland said January 6th was the most patriotic thing this country's done in a long time.

02:00:51.000 Everyone should take that tweet, quote tweet it, with a picture of them holding up Bud Light saying, thanks Bud Light for paying for this message.

02:00:57.000 Thank you for sponsoring this and fueling patriotism.

02:01:00.000 The other thing I'm wondering about, I could be wrong, it seems to me, remember like not that long ago Linda Sarsour was everywhere?

02:01:06.000 Yeah.

02:01:07.000 That as soon as there was a pushback against massive Muslim immigration, you can't even find this bee on the side of a milk carton. 0.86

02:01:13.000 Is Dylan Mulvaney now kind of become radioactive and has vanished or no?

02:01:17.000 Let's do this.

02:01:17.000 We'll go to the members only and we'll talk about that because I can tell you a lot about that.

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02:02:06.000 And for those of you guys who are Christmas orphans, we'll be doing a Christmas live stream from Austin, the Austin crew.

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02:02:26.000 And that's one of the things I'm so excited about being in Austin, being able to be a part of that.

02:02:30.000 So, and I'm gonna have big news.

02:02:31.000 My episode with Jordan Pearson again drops tomorrow on his podcast, and I'll launch that Indiegogo.

02:02:35.000 Maybe I'll come back on here and launch it here for Super Good Funded Live.

02:02:38.000 Sounds cool.

02:02:39.000 I love your Christmas livestream.

02:02:40.000 It's so festive.

02:02:41.000 I feel like people don't realize you have to make Christmas fun.

02:02:44.000 I'll just say one more thing about the Christmas thing.

02:02:47.000 Natalie E. Nesbitt is my favorite author.

02:02:50.000 She's a British children's author from the late 1800s, early 1900s.

02:02:55.000 I read all her books.

02:02:56.000 Every time there's a weird dish mentioned, I had a list.

02:02:58.000 So we'll be cooking a bunch of those weird British dishes.

02:03:00.000 Weird British food for Christmas.

02:03:02.000 It's the best way to celebrate.

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02:03:33.000 So check it out and I'll see you later.

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02:03:37.000 Yeah.

02:03:38.000 Great to have you back, Michael, as always.

02:03:40.000 Excited for this after show.

02:03:41.000 It's gonna be fun.

02:03:42.000 So let's get to it.

02:03:43.000 All right.

02:03:43.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 21, 2023

Timcast IRL - Primary TO BE CANCELED With Trump DISQUALIFIED, CA To Disqualify NEXT w-Michael Malice

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