Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Putin Drops US Dollar For Oil, Unfriendly Countries Must Use Ruble w-Elijah Schaffer

00:00:00.000 Vladimir Putin is demanding that all unfriendly nations now purchase oil from them in the

00:00:11.000 ruble, that it doesn't make sense for them to take US dollars or euro, and thus Europe

00:00:17.000 will now have to buy gas from them in their own currency, and thus begins perhaps the

00:00:22.000 end of the petrodollar.

00:00:24.000 If you thought gas was expensive now, well, you're in for a surprise, man.

00:00:27.000 It's gonna get a whole lot worse, considering Russia is a major exporter of fossil fuels, of energy, of gas, of oil.

00:00:34.000 We also have to contend with a major food crisis which is coming, and I hope you've been paying attention to this one, because Russia also exports massive amounts of fertilizer, which we are now not getting, and planting season is coming up, harvest will be in fall, food stores last about three months, so we'll see how this plays out.

00:00:50.000 Hopefully, it is not the apocalypse, but things may be getting crazy.

00:00:53.000 The New York Times is writing about smaller nuclear weapons, which could make a nuclear war without ICBMs blowing up a whole bunch of cities, which is basically what I've been talking about for some time.

00:01:03.000 We've also got a story about Redditors posting their location in Ukraine, volunteering for the Foreign Legion and getting all of these soldiers killed.

00:01:11.000 So, man, what a day.

00:01:13.000 And of course, we can talk about Patreon banning Sidney Watson.

00:01:16.000 Joining us to talk about all of that is a couple people.

00:01:18.000 We got Elijah Schaffer.

00:01:20.000 We are back in the studio, Tim.

00:01:21.000 I am happy to be here.

00:01:22.000 It's been, what, like a year since Black Lives Matter, Antifa were burning down your neighborhood right outside there.

00:01:28.000 And they're back, by the way.

00:01:29.000 Did you see that?

00:01:29.000 They're back.

00:01:29.000 Well, we're in West Virginia.

00:01:30.000 I mean, I guess technically D.C.

00:01:31.000 is not that far away.

00:01:32.000 Yeah, but I meant, like, so we're back.

00:01:33.000 I feel like it was time to be back on the show because Antifa is back.

00:01:36.000 You saw Vice News said Tiny Dicks are back in fashion.

00:01:40.000 They actually, that was on That was on their news channel.

00:01:42.000 They said they're back in fashion.

00:01:44.000 This was a news headline. 0.99

00:01:45.000 Tiny penises are back in fashion. 0.97

00:01:47.000 And according to old western tradition, like the statue of David. 0.99

00:01:50.000 And I thought this.

00:01:51.000 Check this out. 0.95

00:01:52.000 It makes sense that Antifa would be back in action because if tiny penises are cool again, then Antifa would have to be cool again. 0.62

00:02:01.000 So it's like, it's like they're both one in the same and I'm happy to be here, dude. 0.84

00:02:04.000 I'm happy.

00:02:04.000 I mean, it sounds like they're proud of it though, you know?

00:02:07.000 Oh yeah.

00:02:07.000 They're, they're very, they're very, very proud.

00:02:09.000 It actually kind of sounds like some kind of like sour grapes.

00:02:12.000 Yeah.

00:02:13.000 Yeah.

00:02:13.000 I just said this.

00:02:14.000 I go, you know what?

00:02:14.000 There is the correlation, but I feel like this is a, I feel like I always say 2022 now feels like 2018 all over again.

00:02:20.000 It's like, we're back to talking about transgender issues and Tifa's back in the news. 0.77

00:02:23.000 We're paying too much for gas.

00:02:25.000 I mean, I don't know what's going on, but I feel like we've hit the arc.

00:02:27.000 We've gone full circle and we're just back to the same issues.

00:02:30.000 You see, you see Joe Biden mentioning the fourth attorney the other day.

00:02:33.000 We'll talk about that stuff towards the end of the war.

00:02:35.000 But, uh, so, so what, what do you do?

00:02:36.000 I think most people know who you are, to be honest, but what's your, what do you do for a living?

00:02:39.000 Well, to all the haters who wanted me to get arrested for being inside the Capitol building, guess who just got their press license renewed from the Capitol building today?

00:02:48.000 So it looks like things are still good there.

00:02:50.000 I'm a journalist, reporter, and I also run a podcast called Slightly Offensive, and also a podcast called You Are Here that's live every night.

00:02:56.000 It's been a ton of fun and a ton of craziness, but guess what?

00:02:59.000 I'm out of retirement because things are crazy again.

00:03:01.000 So we're back to reporting.

00:03:02.000 We're back on the field.

00:03:03.000 That's why I'm in DC.

00:03:05.000 Just got back from Ukraine, I hear.

00:03:06.000 Yeah, so this is kind of crazy.

00:03:08.000 I'm joking.

00:03:09.000 It's not the Ukraine you were thinking of.

00:03:13.000 It's the Ucluck.

00:03:14.000 So your Chicken City account down downstairs, the live chicken farm that's now on that YouTube channel.

00:03:20.000 That's right.

00:03:20.000 I was in Ucluck and I was like trying to figure out what I was going to do.

00:03:23.000 I was trying to make sure I saved the Ucluckians.

00:03:25.000 And then I guess who I saw.

00:03:28.000 Who?

00:03:29.000 The Ghost of Chicken Kiev.

00:03:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:31.000 He was flapping and saving all the little baby chickens.

00:03:35.000 He took out six chicken hawks.

00:03:37.000 He did, yeah.

00:03:38.000 He took out six chicken hawks.

00:03:39.000 And then they shot out his wing with the little pellets, the chicken pellets.

00:03:43.000 But then he got another bionic wing and sort of like saved the day.

00:03:47.000 So I'm feeling optimistic for Western chicken society. 0.98

00:03:50.000 And, you know, there's a lot of chickens in our society now.

00:03:52.000 We've seen a lot, you know, going around.

00:03:53.000 One of them is running the country.

00:03:54.000 So I'm happy to be here.

00:03:55.000 And you have someone joining you today.

00:03:57.000 Oh, the beautiful, the lovely, recently banned on Twitter for telling too much truth, Savannah Hernandez from Rapid Fire Podcast.

00:04:04.000 Elijah Schafer!

00:04:05.000 Long time no see!

00:04:07.000 It's just like, you know, two weeks ago I was producing your podcast.

00:04:10.000 Now we're here on Tim Pool Together.

00:04:12.000 Tim, thank you so much for having me.

00:04:14.000 I am so excited to be here.

00:04:15.000 You know, I've always wanted to come on your show.

00:04:17.000 You actually used to follow me back in the day when I was doing Riot Reporting.

00:04:20.000 Then I got deleted off the face of the earth, so I was never able to prove myself to you.

00:04:23.000 So I decided to start another Twitter account, right?

00:04:26.000 I was producing for Elijah Schafer, worked with Alex Jones for a while.

00:04:29.000 Then I was like, let me focus in on the independent reporting, really go all in for 2022.

00:04:33.000 It's election season.

00:04:35.000 Yeah, got banned again.

00:04:36.000 So it's a lot of fun out in these streets, you know, trying to tell the truth.

00:04:40.000 Well, all right.

00:04:41.000 Well, of course Ian's here.

00:04:42.000 It's like running through a fire.

00:04:43.000 And if you don't run fast enough, you start to get burned.

00:04:45.000 Just keep running.

00:04:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:47.000 Keep going.

00:04:47.000 Yeah.

00:04:48.000 Don't stop.

00:04:48.000 Move.

00:04:50.000 And hold your breath while you're doing it.

00:04:51.000 You just don't have to breathe in.

00:04:52.000 You just breathe out when you need to breathe out.

00:04:53.000 You actually absorb the oxygen through your skin.

00:04:55.000 Lydia, I have a gift for you.

00:04:57.000 Oh, what is it?

00:04:58.000 What's the gift?

00:04:58.000 I have two gifts for you to choose from.

00:05:01.000 Oh, cool.

00:05:01.000 What color do you like?

00:05:02.000 Dark blue.

00:05:03.000 Well, it's purple.

00:05:04.000 Oh, it's purple.

00:05:05.000 Oh, cool.

00:05:05.000 I guess it's a kind of dark blue.

00:05:06.000 This is how we found out she's colorblind. 1.00

00:05:07.000 This is a hundred-sided die.

00:05:09.000 So I didn't get a gift, so I'm feeling a little bit left out.

00:05:11.000 No, I didn't know you were coming tonight.

00:05:13.000 You can hold this.

00:05:13.000 I can hold it.

00:05:15.000 There you go.

00:05:16.000 Let me know what you want.

00:05:17.000 You said that you wanted to prove yourself.

00:05:18.000 I've never seen Dice with so many sides before.

00:05:20.000 You want to prove yourself to Tim?

00:05:22.000 I taught you well.

00:05:23.000 Prove yourself to the white man.

00:05:24.000 There you go.

00:05:25.000 What do you mean?

00:05:26.000 How so?

00:05:27.000 All you've wanted was my approval and I'm telling you right here on the show, I always accepted you.

00:05:31.000 Thank you.

00:05:31.000 Thank you so much.

00:05:32.000 All I've ever wanted was a white man's approval.

00:05:34.000 Now I'm surrounded by white people. 0.54

00:05:35.000 That's all she's wanted.

00:05:36.000 She said, as long as white men approve me.

00:05:37.000 That's the narrative.

00:05:38.000 As long as they approve you, you've made it in life.

00:05:39.000 Savannah, here's another 100-sided die for you. 0.79

00:05:41.000 There's so many to go around.

00:05:42.000 Anyway, I have my purple dice now.

00:05:44.000 I'm very happy.

00:05:45.000 I'm here in the corner pushing buttons as I always am.

00:05:47.000 Let's get into this ad.

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00:07:28.000 your friends if you really want to help. Let's read this first story from the New York Post.

00:07:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Putin demands unfriendly countries use rubles to buy Russian oil and gas.

00:07:38.000 Russia was hit with crippling economic sanctions after it launched a massive

00:07:43.000 military campaign against Ukraine a month ago.

00:07:45.000 But efforts to isolate Russia economically are complicated by the fact that the European Union is dependent on Moscow for oil and natural gas that is used to heat homes during the winter.

00:07:54.000 With the financial noose tightening and the European Union split on whether to sanction Russia's energy sector, Putin hit back with a clear message.

00:08:01.000 If you want your gas, buy our currency.

00:08:03.000 Russia will continue, of course, to supply natural gas in accordance with volumes and prices fixed in previously concluded contracts, Putin said in a televised meeting with top government ministers.

00:08:13.000 Imagine being NATO and the EU and not seeing this coming.

00:08:17.000 This is, this is Joe Biden's efforts.

00:08:20.000 I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I gotta blame Joe Biden for this one.

00:08:23.000 I mean, this is his administration in the United States, very much so the U.S.

00:08:26.000 leads NATO.

00:08:27.000 Vladimir Putin effectively getting off the petrodollar, requiring Europe to buy oil and gas in rubles.

00:08:35.000 It's breaking the one thing the United States actually has control over, or the one thing that we actually get value out of, and it's that we control our own currency, which we make everybody buy to buy oil.

00:08:46.000 So this is going to be a global fracturing.

00:08:47.000 A global parallel economy is emerging.

00:08:49.000 Already we heard that Saudi Arabia was in discussions with China to start buying oil in Yuan.

00:08:54.000 Threats of World War 3, chaos, prices going through the roof. How you guys doing?

00:08:58.000 I was gonna say, it's part of the plan, definitely. I mean, besides inflation and, like, the supply

00:09:02.000 chain breaking up and, you know, there's transgender swimmers beating out women and we're having gay 1.00

00:09:07.000 pride parades in children's schools, teaching them how to tuck their scrotum to their butthole, and 1.00

00:09:12.000 children's medical hospitals. 0.99

00:09:14.000 True story.

00:09:15.000 Big, big, big sidestep from Vladimir Putin and gas prices.

00:09:18.000 Yeah, well, I was going to say, besides all that, obviously the best thing that I've heard all year is that our money might lose all of its value and it might actually be worthless.

00:09:26.000 And I know this is on purpose because, I mean, if you think about destabilization of Venezuela, talk about the invasion of Libya, you even talk about a little bit what was going on in Syria. 0.93

00:09:34.000 And what happened in Iraq, when leaders try to take the oil trade off the US dollar,

00:09:39.000 if they try to do anything, right, the global currency or the African currency in Libya,

00:09:43.000 I mean, you end up getting sadomized and murdered in your own country.

00:09:47.000 Sadomized. 0.98

00:09:48.000 Yeah, sadomized. Hung, yeah. 0.98

00:09:50.000 I know, you get hung, you get let out.

00:09:52.000 And so, I mean, if for the last like 100 years, especially the last few decades, if somebody tried to do this, we basically just wiped them out.

00:09:59.000 It makes me wonder if we're going to allow this to happen specifically, not just with the ruble, but also with Saudi Arabia and specifically the Yuan in China.

00:10:07.000 Is this part of Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum idea to sort of destabilize one empire and create a trifecta in this movement?

00:10:14.000 People give that guy way too much credit.

00:10:16.000 Not him, but the World Economic Forum is an agreement among nations to kind of see us, like a lot of bureaucrats specifically like in Washington, obviously don't see America as the greatest country in the world.

00:10:16.000 I think he's a bad guy.

00:10:27.000 We're like a country and there's this movement towards a central currency.

00:10:30.000 Haven't you read about the liberal world order?

00:10:33.000 The liberal world order.

00:10:35.000 You're not familiar.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:36.000 Enlighten me.

00:10:37.000 Let me see if I can pull it up.

00:10:39.000 So there's another world order that we need to be paying attention to.

00:10:42.000 There's too many world orders.

00:10:43.000 You need to understand, when they're talking about the new world order, they're talking about the end of the liberal world order and the emergence of a new world order.

00:10:43.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:10:52.000 So this is the Council on Foreign Relations website, certified by NewsGuard, 100 out of 100.

00:10:57.000 What is the liberal world order?

00:10:59.000 After World War II, the deadliest conflict in human history, countries sought to ensure the world would never again devolve into such horrific violence.

00:11:05.000 World leaders created a series of international organizations and agreements to promote global cooperation on issues including security, trade, health, and monetary policy.

00:11:12.000 The United States has championed this system, known as the Liberal World Order.

00:11:16.000 For the past 75 years, during this time, the world has enjoyed unprecedented peace and prosperity.

00:11:21.000 You know, I would dispute that last sentence, but I wouldn't dispute everything else they're saying.

00:11:26.000 The Council on Foreign Relations overtly says, after World War II, global cooperation from powerful world leaders creating international organizations sought to secure the planet, you know, creating policies on security, trade, health, and monetary policy.

00:11:40.000 When Joe Biden says that there is going to be a new world order, This is what the New World Order means.

00:11:46.000 When Bush said it, when H.W.

00:11:48.000 Bush, when Clinton, when Hillary Clinton, when they all say this, what they're saying is the liberal world order will come to an end and there will be a new world order.

00:11:56.000 What's that specifically called?

00:11:57.000 I don't know.

00:11:58.000 This rhetoric is the exact same rhetoric that you read in the UN's Agenda 2030.

00:12:03.000 I actually printed that out.

00:12:04.000 I was reading through it.

00:12:05.000 This is the exact same type of thing that they're trying to propose, right?

00:12:08.000 this utopian like society where everything's great and we have all of these organizations

00:12:12.000 that are helping the world, pushing peace and prosperity, but in reality we see when

00:12:16.000 put into practice what this actually looks like.

00:12:19.000 Look at our streets right now, look at Democrat run cities if you will, look at liberal policy

00:12:22.000 actually put into play.

00:12:24.000 Our entire country is in decay.

00:12:26.000 We're deteriorating from the inside.

00:12:28.000 You know, we have a president in office who is incapable of even forming a coherent sentence.

00:12:33.000 A lot of people say that Joe Biden has, you know, done a horrible job as president.

00:12:36.000 Well, he's done a great job of one thing, destroying this country in record time.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, he did it really quickly, huh?

00:12:41.000 Yeah, really quick, really fast.

00:12:42.000 You gotta give him credit for that.

00:12:43.000 I mean, wow.

00:12:44.000 It feels like it was tipping and then he stepped into the pilot seat just as it fell off the ledge.

00:12:48.000 Although they did oversee the printing of like seven or eight trillion dollars in the last year and a half, which is terrible policy.

00:12:53.000 A little bit problematic, I would say.

00:12:55.000 You ever, uh, you ever watch Mr. Magoo?

00:12:57.000 I call my dog Mr. Magoo.

00:12:59.000 You know Mr. Magoo.

00:13:00.000 He can't see and so he's bumbling around and getting into all sorts of shenanigans.

00:13:05.000 He's like an old man. 0.99

00:13:06.000 Bulbous nose.

00:13:08.000 Losing his glasses.

00:13:09.000 Don't you feel though when you hear this that we've all been sold a lie?

00:13:13.000 And I even got duped into this being from Los Angeles.

00:13:16.000 I was actually born and raised in Southern California right there.

00:13:19.000 There was this sort of lie that we were sold that is clearly unraveled now

00:13:23.000 That you could have this sort of liberalism in this Mecca that you could have your cake and eat it, too

00:13:27.000 Like you could have money you could have freedom you could have immigration 1.00

00:13:31.000 You could have multiculturalism and you could kind of create this bastion of utopia 0.99

00:13:35.000 Smack-dab in in a desert, right?

00:13:37.000 Even your water, even though you don't have natural water sources, right in LA.

00:13:41.000 And as we've seen it divulge over the years, or develop, and also then decline, is that it didn't end up really working that well because obviously when you have all these cultures together, they ended up self-segregating. 0.73

00:13:52.000 LA is one of the most segregated regions in the country.

00:13:54.000 It is insane.

00:13:55.000 It is to the point where you can like tell you where the Jews live, or the Mexicans live, where the El Salvadorians live.

00:14:00.000 Go to Chicago, go to New York.

00:14:01.000 Yeah, I know what I'm saying, but I'm saying it obviously is touted as being diverse,

00:14:04.000 but it's really segregated.

00:14:06.000 Then the wealth disparity, there's a shrinking middle class.

00:14:08.000 I mean, and the confusion, the laws are not enforced.

00:14:11.000 It's pretty absolutely crazy.

00:14:12.000 So I feel like genuinely this liberal world order, like you said that they're doing away with,

00:14:16.000 is an interesting way to get people complacent.

00:14:18.000 Because when you create a liberal society that's not based on tradition or nationalism or values,

00:14:22.000 but this idea of personal liberty, individualism, you start getting into your pot of choice, your vices,

00:14:28.000 you get into your porn addictions, you pursue your career rather than family.

00:14:32.000 And everyone is just kind of like fighting.

00:14:34.000 They give up their guns.

00:14:35.000 They're not focused on things like self-protection and gathering and self-sufficiency, et cetera.

00:14:39.000 And then we end up kind of complacent.

00:14:42.000 There's a contradiction in there.

00:14:43.000 I mean, people who believe in individualism and civil liberties don't give up their guns.

00:14:48.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:14:49.000 It literally was a deception, because that's what I'm saying.

00:14:51.000 They gave us this form of liberalism, this absolute, kind of their developed form of like, you can have peace in your countries, the wars won't be fought there, you can make a lot of money, things can be really good, your kids can all go to college, and then once we were all in these places, everyone's on anti-anxiety and anti-depressant pills, people are unhappy, they're not satisfied with their lives.

00:15:09.000 If you look at how happy people are.

00:15:10.000 They're not full of joy.

00:15:11.000 They're not content.

00:15:12.000 They're not satisfied.

00:15:13.000 We're very divided.

00:15:14.000 And now we're all in this place where we don't have anything to unify us.

00:15:17.000 We don't have a common religion.

00:15:18.000 Not even really a common language.

00:15:20.000 Because I'm not talking about Spanish.

00:15:21.000 Have you ever heard someone under 16 talk? 0.98

00:15:24.000 I can't tell what they're talking about.

00:15:24.000 Not lately.

00:15:26.000 It's like most generations. 0.89

00:15:28.000 Oh, leet-speak.

00:15:29.000 Yeah.

00:15:30.000 I just meant they divided it so that they used it to weaken us.

00:15:33.000 Leet-speak is a millennial thing, dude.

00:15:35.000 Wait, what is this?

00:15:37.000 It's L33T.

00:15:38.000 It's just the way you type words faster with numbers.

00:15:38.000 Leet-speak.

00:15:42.000 1337, Ian.

00:15:43.000 Oh, interesting.

00:15:44.000 Yeah, but that's an internet culture thing that goes back a long time.

00:15:44.000 1337, my fault.

00:15:48.000 I mean, if you're talking about the slang terms used by Kids.

00:15:51.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, though, is that language is changing in a way where it's like each generation can't even effectively communicate with each other, not just through language, but through the mediums are changing so rapidly.

00:16:00.000 Even look at the app development and app usage based off of age range.

00:16:03.000 I mean, we are divided and categorized to a point to where it's the perfect time to where we can't even we can't even agree on basic things like on, you know, people are still divided on what happened in 2020.

00:16:13.000 People today You can't even agree on the most basic science on what is a man and what is a woman.

00:16:18.000 It's a perfect opportune time to retire the current liberalism and then institute whatever the hell you want because we're too divided and too weak and complacent, I believe, to really effectively fight anything.

00:16:29.000 I don't think there's anything to fight for.

00:16:30.000 We don't even know what we would be fighting to preserve.

00:16:32.000 There's a great meme right now where it says, it shows the clip from the World Economic Forum saying, you will own nothing and you will be happy.

00:16:39.000 Then it says, you know, journalists say the Great Reset is a conspiracy theory.

00:16:44.000 And the next one is the Bloomberg article saying, give up meat for lentils. 0.93

00:16:48.000 Let your dog die.

00:16:49.000 People are like, you'll owe nothing and you'll be happy.

00:16:52.000 I wanted to pop in on what you were saying too on the entire manipulation of our language.

00:16:58.000 So he and I were actually having a conversation on the way up here and it's kind of insane how we now are saying biological male or biological female.

00:17:05.000 Now we're saying actual science as opposed to what the left's version of science is.

00:17:10.000 The language has been so manipulated now that, like Elijah said, in the common day we can't even decide on what basic science is anymore.

00:17:18.000 Well, I kind of disagree.

00:17:20.000 I think what happened is you have, like, American society moving up and then at some point the left started budding off like some kind of fungus.

00:17:27.000 Like, I mean, I don't mean that as disparaging.

00:17:29.000 I mean literally like fungus buds and then, you know, separates.

00:17:32.000 Yeah.

00:17:32.000 And that's what it is.

00:17:33.000 So people who are in the middle or on the right, who believe words have meaning and history exists, stayed going down the same path, following history, following the lessons of our ancestors.

00:17:47.000 And then this new group of people split off, and they have a different language, they have a different worldview, they believe crazy things.

00:17:53.000 Different reality, really.

00:17:54.000 Totally different reality.

00:17:55.000 Yeah, so it's not... If you were to say that language changed, it would be to imply that those people have legitimacy.

00:18:01.000 Now, I certainly think they control institutions.

00:18:03.000 I certainly think that they make videos.

00:18:04.000 How's it not legitimacy, though?

00:18:05.000 I mean, if you have power, that's what's kind of cool.

00:18:08.000 That's their mentality.

00:18:09.000 There's no truth but power.

00:18:10.000 I disagree.

00:18:11.000 I think they're completely illegitimate because they make up random words that are meaningless.

00:18:16.000 And you ask a Supreme Court justice to define woman and she says, I can't. 1.00

00:18:19.000 And I'm like, okay, you're illegitimate and incompetent if you can't define a basic word.

00:18:23.000 The same woman who said, I can't define the word woman, literally a minute later said, Roe v. Wade is about a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy. 1.00

00:18:30.000 And I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:18:32.000 You just said you didn't know what a word, you couldn't define the word.

00:18:34.000 Tim, it was so baffling to me because, so again, I covered the NCAAs last week and there was pro-LGBTQ protesters there, you know, standing up for Leah Thomas and I'm standing there talking to these college-aged kids and it's such a surreal moment. 0.99

00:18:50.000 When you have someone look at you in your face and go, yes, a woman can have a penis. 1.00

00:18:55.000 Yes, men can get pregnant. 1.00

00:18:57.000 And yes, men can have periods.

00:18:58.000 And again, you know, this is rhetoric that we've seen time and time again.

00:19:01.000 This is nothing new.

00:19:02.000 But actually hearing somebody say that to you, to your face, bold face, completely believing it just shows me how far gone we've become as a country to where there's no basis in reality at all anymore.

00:19:13.000 This is why people talk about national divorce. 0.89

00:19:16.000 It's why they talk about civil war.

00:19:19.000 It's not so much about, look, I don't care.

00:19:21.000 Those people can believe whatever they want.

00:19:22.000 They can watch whatever movies they want to make and do that.

00:19:24.000 And then what do we get?

00:19:25.000 We get the Daily Wire making their own razors.

00:19:26.000 We get the Daily Wire making their own movies.

00:19:28.000 We are certainly interested in moving that direction as well with our own cultural content.

00:19:32.000 We just need to stop trying to be a part of their club.

00:19:35.000 That's one of the most frustrating things to me. 0.80

00:19:38.000 Like, I don't care if these people walk around thinking that they're, you know, clowns juggling bananas.

00:19:42.000 Like, that's cool, dude. 0.60

00:19:43.000 You do your thing, man.

00:19:44.000 I'm gonna be hanging out here with my friends, like, having a beer and playing guitar.

00:19:47.000 That's our thing.

00:19:48.000 You do your thing.

00:19:49.000 But the problem is, conservatives keep begging to be in their club, and they need to stop doing it.

00:19:54.000 Republicans do it all the time.

00:19:55.000 They freak out because right now, GOP racist is trending on Twitter.

00:19:59.000 It's like, so what?

00:20:00.000 Who cares? 1.00

00:20:00.000 They're so weak and pathetic. 1.00

00:20:01.000 There's so many spineless rhinos in our Congress right now, in our just political space as a whole. 0.99

00:20:07.000 They're so spineless, they're so pathetic, and the reason why conservatism as a whole has completely deteriorated is because people like Matt Schlapp, who's supposed to be the creator of the Conservative Political Action Committee, is coming forward and saying, oh, Leah Thomas' journey, we really need to have empathy about it because, uh, Are you freaking kidding me right now? 0.95

00:20:25.000 I actually... 0.98

00:20:26.000 Conservatism is pathetic in the modern day. 0.99

00:20:27.000 Well it is. 0.98

00:20:28.000 I agree with that, but I also agree with what Matt was saying.

00:20:30.000 If these women at the NCAA don't care to speak up, if none of their family members will speak

00:20:35.000 up, then they deserve, they deserve whatever their experience is.

00:20:40.000 Matt was saying that he thinks that we should have empathy towards Leah Thomas.

00:20:43.000 I completely disagree.

00:20:44.000 Again, I'm not a female athlete.

00:20:46.000 I'm not the one that should be protesting.

00:20:47.000 You and I were actually talking about this before the start of the show.

00:20:50.000 Why did these females even compete with Thomas? 1.00

00:20:53.000 Because they like it.

00:20:54.000 It's because you have to be at least this tall to play professional sports.

00:20:59.000 This is one of the most frustrating things to me.

00:21:01.000 Because the NCAA women have publicly come out and agreed with Leah Thomas and supported her.

00:21:07.000 And the only person who didn't, the only person so far to come out complaining, is the person who got bumped by one space.

00:21:14.000 16th place.

00:21:15.000 But that got deleted.

00:21:16.000 What teammate?

00:21:17.000 So, that is who I interviewed last week.

00:21:19.000 That's the news we broke.

00:21:20.000 Tucker Carlson played in on his show.

00:21:22.000 Her teammate, Rose Pouch, she spoke out on behalf of her, said her teammate was crying because she was 17.

00:21:27.000 Oh right, but she wasn't in the finals either, right?

00:21:28.000 No, she was in the finals. 0.90

00:21:29.000 She got first place in the 200 yard free.

00:21:32.000 She spoke out against Leah Thomas because she watched her teammate cry as Thomas took that final spot. 0.82

00:21:37.000 Again, I can't pronounce her name correctly.

00:21:41.000 Yes, that's her name.

00:21:42.000 She was a senior.

00:21:43.000 I can respect someone coming out and actually speaking up.

00:21:45.000 Yes, so that's what I'm saying, Tim.

00:21:46.000 So it's like, it's not that all of these athletes aren't speaking out.

00:21:49.000 It's that they're being completely silenced.

00:21:50.000 Now, we made national news with that.

00:21:51.000 It's completely been deleted off of Twitter.

00:21:53.000 You can't find it anywhere.

00:21:54.000 All of the national news articles that were linked to her interview, completely gone now.

00:21:58.000 The point of this that I want to bring up is, first of all, Matt Schlapp saying that we need to have empathy on this person's journey, who, by the way, has a clear and present bulge, actually bigger than mine.

00:22:08.000 I'm taking some notes here. 0.98

00:22:09.000 But I will say, you know, that's completely crap. 0.97

00:22:11.000 And conservatism definitely is in the position to where people are fighting to conserve things that do not exist and have not existed for some time, including this entire country, for at least a hundred years as we've been developing into some crazy globalist empire. 0.97

00:22:24.000 But with the specific thing with the Swimmers?

00:22:28.000 I don't think it's enough to just say like it's their fault because we've gotten in used to everybody in every field in every department institution we already assume they have to be activists because everybody everybody seems to be one journalists are activists professors are activists and now we're saying look there's people who just want to swim they do not want to get involved in political things in fact One of the greatest things I have found and has kept me sane has been lifting weights, getting back in shape.

00:22:53.000 And I go on to Twitter and I put like one thing up, like, yeah, hey, you know, I did my 5x5 at 225 on chest.

00:22:58.000 I'm excited, hit a goal.

00:22:59.000 And there's all these bros that get in there that are like, oh man, what's your squat?

00:23:03.000 What's your this?

00:23:04.000 What's your that?

00:23:04.000 And I'm like, dude, you're complicating something.

00:23:07.000 I picked up heavy things.

00:23:09.000 I put them back down.

00:23:10.000 I know there's a science to this.

00:23:12.000 I know people get really involved.

00:23:13.000 I'm not doing that.

00:23:14.000 Where are these girls dads? 1.00

00:23:15.000 There's a point to be said to this though.

00:23:17.000 Good question, Tim.

00:23:18.000 But there's a point to be set.

00:23:19.000 That's why I don't care.

00:23:20.000 No, no, but here's the point.

00:23:22.000 What you're asking for, and I'm saying this genuinely, some people, I know people that are into swimming, for instance, and they just do it to clear their mind.

00:23:29.000 They do it to get their mind off the world and focus on the goal.

00:23:31.000 Bro, bro, bro.

00:23:31.000 There's literally, I don't know, what's your point?

00:23:34.000 Tim, my point is, as I'm saying, people always try to complicate things.

00:23:37.000 A lot of these swimmers are put in a tough position.

00:23:40.000 Their scholarships might ride on this, they might come from impoverished families.

00:23:43.000 Too bad.

00:23:43.000 Listen, when you're focused on breaking generational wealth gaps and you go to a nice school and you're trying to swim and get your family out of that poverty, that idea of getting out of poverty is more important to you than a social issue like transgenders and you don't know what to do.

00:23:58.000 So what's happening in our world is no matter who's out there, we are demanding of them to be political activists.

00:24:03.000 What should be happening is this discussion should be happening at a senior level with administrators and with individuals who are put in those political positions to try to debate whether something is ethical.

00:24:13.000 But the swimmers themselves, I don't blame them for not knowing what to do because like that girl who was scared, these are genuine people who are going, even if I speak out, will it change anything?

00:24:23.000 And they don't have, they can't afford what you and me do.

00:24:26.000 No, no, no, no, we're stopping right there, bro.

00:24:28.000 I am sick and tired of hearing about spineless people who don't stand up for themselves, who think they're entitled to everything.

00:24:33.000 That's one of the big issues I have with the left.

00:24:35.000 They come out and they say, we should get free college, we should get free that.

00:24:38.000 I shouldn't have to do anything for it.

00:24:40.000 These swimmers won't come out.

00:24:41.000 Their dads won't come out.

00:24:43.000 Their moms won't come out.

00:24:44.000 Now, there was one woman who spoke anonymously, and then you come here and you say, they don't have all of this, bro.

00:24:51.000 Not only did I come from the gutter, but I've consistently stood up for my values.

00:24:54.000 I've had people on this show who have been censored over and over again, and I know there are hard limitations because there are certain things that make it difficult for either you or I to talk about on our shows, but I quit a corporate gig.

00:25:05.000 I tried to break a contract with millions of dollars because they wanted me to do woke BS.

00:25:10.000 Now, for me, I'm not saying anybody has to have my back on that.

00:25:14.000 I'm saying I take care of myself.

00:25:16.000 I don't think I'm entitled to or owed anything.

00:25:18.000 So when I'm at a company and they say, you want the money we're paying you?

00:25:21.000 We have you under contract.

00:25:23.000 You're going to do woke stuff.

00:25:24.000 I said, no, I won't.

00:25:25.000 And they said, well, you better.

00:25:26.000 And I said, I guess I'll just sit here or you can break my contract.

00:25:29.000 They said no.

00:25:30.000 I'm not a political commentator though.

00:25:31.000 I was not a political commentator when I worked for ABC.

00:25:33.000 To some extent though, but you're in the visuals.

00:25:36.000 You're into somewhat of entertainment.

00:25:37.000 A lot of these people are just athletes and they're like, dude, I didn't ask for this.

00:25:41.000 I don't want this.

00:25:41.000 And that's what a lot of the athletes are trying to figure out.

00:25:44.000 They don't want to be political activists.

00:25:46.000 They want to be able to just focus on their sport.

00:25:48.000 I completely agree with what you're saying, Tim, but I also think that this is your passion.

00:25:52.000 This is your career, right?

00:25:53.000 Swimming is those girls' passion. 0.99

00:25:54.000 They don't want to be political activists.

00:25:56.000 The big reason why their parents don't want to speak out for them is because the daughters Ask the parents, hey, you know what, just don't do it. 0.97

00:26:02.000 I don't want to face the repercussion.

00:26:03.000 I don't want the NCAA coming after me.

00:26:05.000 The NCAA told these athletes, don't mention Leah Thomas's name in the locker room. 1.00

00:26:09.000 Do not speak to any media.

00:26:10.000 So the fact that I even got that interview, that's why it went so viral, because the NCAA has been silencing these women. 0.99

00:26:15.000 I understand what you're saying, Tim, because I'm the exact same way.

00:26:17.000 I'm hardline and I say, stand up for your rights, stand up for your country or you will lose everything.

00:26:22.000 But at the same time, we do have to remember we're in this spot because not everybody is a political activist, unfortunately.

00:26:26.000 That I'm not going to stand up for people who haven't asked for it.

00:26:32.000 It is the most insane thing to me that you have people being like, we must defend these young women who are actively, publicly supporting Leah Thomas.

00:26:38.000 I'm like, dude, what are you talking about?

00:26:42.000 I don't disagree with you.

00:26:42.000 They're publicly supporting Lia Thomas, and you're acting like they're mad when they're not.

00:26:46.000 No, no, because that's not even the point.

00:26:48.000 I'm saying, we tend to be in politics, and I'm not saying you, but just in general, is reactionary, where we expect that people move on our time.

00:26:54.000 We consume stories by the daily.

00:26:56.000 There are people that I've met, I've met an Uber driver that didn't even know there was a war in Ukraine, okay?

00:27:00.000 Like, he didn't even know that was happening.

00:27:01.000 People in the world are sometimes so focused on a goal that they even disconnect.

00:27:05.000 That's even required of them to get off social media, et cetera, and they don't know what's going on.

00:27:10.000 There is a problem that we see.

00:27:12.000 The problem is is that the swimmers need to see how big of an issue this is of letting a man compete against women in a way that will always beat them, will out-qualify them, and would fundamentally change the country.

00:27:24.000 I'm saying I don't believe all of them see that.

00:27:27.000 Because I remember being around non-political people who are like, okay, this is weird, But I'm being told this is right, especially if they don't have any moral absolution, or maybe they're not even that high IQ.

00:27:36.000 They might be saying, I don't know what to do.

00:27:38.000 So before I'm judging them for not swimming, I'm saying, I think a lot of them are weighing their options.

00:27:45.000 And more importantly, like you said, how you would have turned down a contract.

00:27:48.000 I think a lot of them will lose out on their opportunities.

00:27:50.000 And I think this is where you start seeing- It's because not enough of them are willing to stand up.

00:27:53.000 That's the issue.

00:27:54.000 Somebody is going to get red-pilled.

00:27:55.000 Somebody might stand up and it might set a reaction.

00:27:57.000 How long has this been going on?

00:28:00.000 For 14 years in the public spotlight, if we track the data going into the New York Times, 14 years, 14 years, parents are not speaking up.

00:28:09.000 They're not going to meetings.

00:28:11.000 The fathers and the mothers are not showing up to meetings and saying, we want rule changes.

00:28:14.000 They don't care.

00:28:16.000 Not only that, what I'm telling you, why I'm particularly frustrated with this is that even Rekha Gyorgyi, The one person who got bumped from the finals in her complaint said, I stand, I fully stand with Leah Thomas.

00:28:30.000 And you know, she is no different from me or any other D1 swimmer who wakes up every day.

00:28:34.000 And I said, then I am not going to do the work for you and no one else should.

00:28:40.000 If they have an issue with this, they need to only politely say they could, they could wear a pink ribbon.

00:28:45.000 They could wear a little ribbon that says like, I am protesting this, but I'll keep, keep going because I want my scholarships.

00:28:50.000 But I am sick and tired of people who are aware of what's going on and apparently, according to the mothers, they are, but they won't speak publicly, who are refusing to stand up and stand up for their rights for whatever reason.

00:29:01.000 They expect other people to do it for them.

00:29:03.000 It's not going to happen.

00:29:04.000 The left goes out and they throw bricks through windows and they burn down buildings and they've literally killed dozens of people in the George Floyd riots.

00:29:11.000 Kamala Harris then helped bail these people out. 1.00

00:29:15.000 13 Joe Biden staffers donated to help bail these people out.

00:29:18.000 And Republicans are like, but I'm gonna get called a racist.

00:29:21.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, man.

00:29:23.000 If you are unwilling to stand up for yourself, for your children, if you were a father unwilling to stand up for your daughter, and you think I'm gonna come out and be like, I will stand up for you.

00:29:32.000 I'm not gonna do it.

00:29:34.000 So, I think that this goes back to, okay, look at what we saw for the past two years with the COVID lockdowns, right?

00:29:40.000 People's businesses getting shut down, all of us being forced to mask up, all of these things that we had to do because the government told us to.

00:29:47.000 I've been saying this since 15 days too slow to spread was originally talked about.

00:29:52.000 This will not end until the masses decide that it does.

00:29:55.000 You are completely right in that, Tim.

00:29:56.000 This does not end until the female athletes decide that enough is enough. 1.00

00:30:00.000 They're going to stand up, they're going to push back, and they're going to put an end to it.

00:30:02.000 I don't think they care.

00:30:04.000 I think you guys are putting this view on them.

00:30:08.000 They definitely care.

00:30:10.000 No, no, no, no.

00:30:11.000 I'll tell you this though.

00:30:11.000 This is genuinely true.

00:30:12.000 And this is where I actually want to agree with you about the father thing.

00:30:14.000 Yes, but it's deeper than that.

00:30:17.000 My point is, is I'm not saying because they care that I'm fighting.

00:30:20.000 And I know this is not a popular statement.

00:30:21.000 But number one, I don't expect women to be the fighters and the champions of social movements 1.00

00:30:26.000 and of the country.

00:30:27.000 I think they can.

00:30:28.000 I think there's many women who've done many great things, but I understand, I don't believe

00:30:31.000 it's in their nature.

00:30:32.000 I believe in traditional design.

00:30:33.000 And I think a lot of these women, women tend to be more submissive, not all women, especially 1.00

00:30:36.000 modern feminist women, but I think that's the natural design. 1.00

00:30:39.000 And I don't think, and I would blame their fathers more or their boyfriends or husbands

00:30:43.000 more than them.

00:30:44.000 I would do that.

00:30:45.000 But on the side note, it's unimportant.

00:30:46.000 Okay, let me respond to that.

00:30:47.000 Yeah.

00:30:48.000 Was it 70% of when Democrats are female?

00:30:52.000 Feminism, I mean, I think you have it backwards. 1.00

00:30:55.000 Women are the ones who are consistently over the past 20 years demanding social change. 1.00

00:31:00.000 Yeah, but it's in one direction.

00:31:02.000 So my point is, it's not in this direction.

00:31:03.000 And so why aren't these gentlemen doing the same thing?

00:31:05.000 This is my point is I'm saying that aside because you'd have to ascribe to a traditional worldview or believe in

00:31:10.000 God to really Believe that probably or be very well versed in science

00:31:13.000 But I am gonna say is why I care about it is not because I'm not trying to get that 17th place person

00:31:19.000 I'm not petitioning so that she can get back into 16th. I don't care about this because of them

00:31:24.000 I care about this because of what it means for our country and for future generations

00:31:30.000 If we accept as a whole, even if that pool, they all cared about, you know, they don't care and whatever they want to let it happen.

00:31:36.000 Okay, fine.

00:31:37.000 So if I, if there's a bunch of people in a house and they just want to create a meth lab and they're all cool with that, should I be cool with that?

00:31:42.000 No.

00:31:42.000 Should I fight against the idea of having major drug labs in houses across the country?

00:31:46.000 Yes.

00:31:47.000 Even if they are all for it and they're like, well, you know, the neighbors aren't mad about it.

00:31:50.000 I'm like, dude, we're not going to have a country where you can just create meth labs and blow up houses.

00:31:53.000 Sorry.

00:31:54.000 Not going to be okay with that.

00:31:55.000 It's very, very different.

00:31:56.000 No, but it's different.

00:31:57.000 It's different when you see something that's toxic, that's bad, that's a social issue.

00:32:01.000 I'm using a physical issue that people could understand to a social issue.

00:32:05.000 When you're allowing something to go out and not just to happen, because remember, it's

00:32:08.000 not just the people in the pool.

00:32:10.000 The swimmers are even the least important to me on this.

00:32:13.000 You have ESPN, et cetera.

00:32:14.000 interviewing.

00:32:14.000 This is being reaffirmed nationally.

00:32:17.000 And, as you know on this show, right now, if I were to say what I was really feeling about this issue, this livestream would get pulled.

00:32:23.000 Meaning, big tech is in on this as well, saying, this is normal, and normal people are not.

00:32:29.000 Not only that, too, Liza.

00:32:33.000 I don't disagree with you on that.

00:32:37.000 I don't disagree with you on that.

00:32:38.000 My frustration is with people who don't stand up for themselves.

00:32:41.000 I get pissed, too!

00:32:42.000 If we're talking specifically about the greater issue, by all means, everybody who wants to complain about it has a right to complain about it.

00:32:49.000 When we're specifically talking about Rekka Gyorgi as the one person to publicly complain because she's the one person who got bumped, I'm like, dude, you had every opportunity to speak up.

00:32:58.000 You didn't, and you're only complaining now because you're the one person who got bumped.

00:33:02.000 18th place isn't complaining because she wouldn't have made it anyway, and 16th place isn't complaining because she did make it.

00:33:07.000 I just don't see any principle among those people.

00:33:09.000 And we already have people mentioning this, and I've answered this several times, who are saying, If I spoke up for my children, I would lose my job.

00:33:15.000 Well, then I understand what you find to be more important.

00:33:18.000 Security for your family is more important than what your children are going through with society and with culture.

00:33:24.000 I said this before and I'll say it again.

00:33:27.000 If you're more concerned about keeping your job and keeping your income, at least you'll know your kids had a good meal when in 20 years they're in the gulag or whatever.

00:33:37.000 Sometimes speaking up is actually dangerous.

00:33:38.000 The founding fathers had to keep it under wraps.

00:33:40.000 If they'd spoke up against George, they would have been executed on the block.

00:33:43.000 Oh, I completely agree.

00:33:44.000 The parents could have come together on one night, all sat down and said, do we all agree we have a problem here?

00:33:49.000 Okay, now that we've all come together, we can unanimously issue a statement under our names because we all know we have each other's backs.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, Leah Thomas technically isn't doing anything wrong.

00:33:57.000 She's following the rules.

00:33:58.000 So changing the rules is where the key lies.

00:34:01.000 How do you best change the rules?

00:34:02.000 And if I could jump in with you guys on this, because I do want to make this point because I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying, but this is when censorship comes into play.

00:34:10.000 So, we all know that many people on the right wing, many of these independent journalists are being censored and why is that?

00:34:15.000 It's because we are going out on the ground and we are elevating those unheard voices.

00:34:20.000 So, right now you guys are saying you're not hearing from any of these athletes and why is that?

00:34:24.000 It's because ESPN is platforming Leah Thomas.

00:34:28.000 It's because all of the mainstream is platforming Leah Thomas as a hero.

00:34:31.000 They're not platforming the adults and the parents that are speaking out.

00:34:35.000 They're not platforming the athletes that are speaking out.

00:34:39.000 But they are, Tim, because I interviewed them last week, and guess what?

00:34:42.000 All of those interviews are gone.

00:34:43.000 Did you see any of my work from last week?

00:34:45.000 It got banned, right?

00:34:46.000 Why did the mother, who came out and gave a... Why did she come out anonymously to the New York Post?

00:34:51.000 Again, but there's also parents that came out, they were not anonymous.

00:34:54.000 They came out last week, they had their names, they had their picture up on the article, but those stories are not elevated and they're not promoted.

00:35:02.000 So I understand what you're saying, but understand too that Big Tech is allowed to, you know, regulate what the narrative is.

00:35:09.000 So there are people that are speaking out, there are athletes that are speaking out, but their footage is being deleted.

00:35:13.000 They are being censored and they are being silenced because they are not the popular, you know, narrative that the Big Tech wants to push.

00:35:20.000 Oh yeah.

00:35:20.000 I agree.

00:35:21.000 I completely agree with you on that.

00:35:21.000 know chosen to protest the swim. I agree I completely agree with

00:35:25.000 you on that. NCAA swimmers who are being platformed have publicly supported Leah Thomas and we're talking in circles

00:35:31.000 now so I think it's I get it. You know if there are people in this country have an issue with what's happening in the

00:35:37.000 schools, then I you know I actually I agree if we're talking specifically about the NCAA right now my problem is

00:35:44.000 I am sick and tired of the past 10 years where there are

00:35:47.000 people who know about the problems who refuse to speak up.

00:35:50.000 Clifton Duncan said the same thing.

00:35:52.000 He said something to the effect of, I have more disdain for those who know what's happening and refuse to speak than those who are ignorantly participating in it.

00:36:02.000 Something to that effect.

00:36:03.000 And that's where I've been at for some time.

00:36:04.000 The people who say to me, I know what they're doing to my children in school, that they're grooming their kids, and that they're making up lies about, you know, the Don't Say Gay Bill.

00:36:12.000 Man, if you come to me and tell me you know what these teachers are doing to your kids, and that you'd rather have your job than save your kids from that, I think you've got a very serious problem with what's going to happen to your children.

00:36:23.000 That's mind-blowing to me.

00:36:24.000 But here's where I have to think and not just react.

00:36:29.000 I agree, and we're sitting in a room of people who've chosen, like you said, to not allow what could happen bad to us, or our friends, or our family, inhibit us from pursuing what we believe God has called us to, or the universe, or whatever you ascribe to.

00:36:44.000 My point is, is that I am saddened that in every culture there are warriors and there are people who fight.

00:36:49.000 And in the age of information and intellectual property, a lot of the fighting happens in the intellectual centers.

00:36:55.000 It's like back to Rome or to Greece.

00:36:57.000 It's the battle of the wits.

00:36:58.000 And of course there still is real war and there are people end up, you know, you know, deleting themselves with two shots to the back of

00:37:02.000 the head, things still happen, there's still violence. But overall, the fight is happening

00:37:06.000 on the public square. And so a lot of different souls that would basically not make it on

00:37:10.000 traditional battlefield are somehow successful.

00:37:12.000 It basically values intellect rather than just physical might now. I am saying that I understand

00:37:18.000 that wars have always been fought, and right now this war is being fought, and I don't mind you.

00:37:21.000 You and I take hits all the time.

00:37:22.000 Everyone at this table does.

00:37:24.000 It is so sad to me now that everybody is forced to join the war.

00:37:28.000 Now, again, to concede to your point on this, there are times when the village gets raided, when the kingdom is under siege, and every able-bodied man... I mean, look at Ukraine.

00:37:36.000 They're not letting the young men leave.

00:37:37.000 Where it's like, there is a time to fight, but I'm saying, my point is, is that sometimes I think we're rushing people because we're more alarmist and see what's going on.

00:37:44.000 Bro, it's been 14 years.

00:37:45.000 Yes, but to some...

00:37:47.000 Yes, but more people wake up.

00:37:49.000 You would think after COVID that everybody would have woken up to what's going on, but they still didn't because the sleep is so deep.

00:37:54.000 What's the Second Amendment say?

00:37:56.000 It's the right to a well-armed militia, basically.

00:37:59.000 The security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms, etc.

00:38:02.000 A well-regulated militia being necessary for a free state.

00:38:05.000 And a militia was just the people who were armed, who would come together when needed.

00:38:11.000 We didn't have police forces back in the day.

00:38:12.000 We actually had local militia.

00:38:13.000 That's how things were dealt with.

00:38:14.000 So if somebody stole, Round up all the people and be like, you know, like arrest them and bring them to the magistrate or whatever.

00:38:20.000 And the founding fathers understood everybody would have to fight to defend their land.

00:38:25.000 What I see now is we are in a, we're now in year 14 of a major culture war.

00:38:30.000 And it's going back to like, you know, economic collapse, the rise of critical race theory, Occupy Wall Street, Gamergate, all of these things.

00:38:37.000 And you have people who are like, I've been watching what's been happening since Donald Trump.

00:38:42.000 Social issues were a major component of why many millennials voted for Donald Trump.

00:38:46.000 And still they say, as bad as it has gotten, and as crazy as things have gotten, I still refuse to fight.

00:38:52.000 But I'll be upset about it, I guess.

00:38:54.000 Now, I don't think anybody has to do anything.

00:38:57.000 I mean, look, if you want something, you have to fight for it.

00:39:00.000 If you don't fight for it, I assume you don't want something.

00:39:03.000 I'm not going to complain that these female swimmers don't care enough to speak out. 1.00

00:39:07.000 But that's reality.

00:39:08.000 Are you saying nobody can avoid the war?

00:39:10.000 I'm asking if that's what you're saying.

00:39:11.000 What I'm saying is, to put it simply, if you place a person between two roads, and one is just keep swimming and keep your head down, and one is speak up and stand up for your rights, they're all choosing the road they think is better for them.

00:39:25.000 That means they don't care enough about Leah Thomas to actually say anything.

00:39:30.000 I'm sure they're upset about it because you can be mad about your choices and choose the lesser of two evils or something slightly worse.

00:39:38.000 If people really cared about this, if parents really cared about their children, if you really cared about your kids and you knew teachers were grooming your kids, you would be homeless to save your child from that, right?

00:39:50.000 Let me ask you both.

00:39:52.000 Which would you prefer?

00:39:53.000 Your child spends 8 hours a day being groomed by cult members and you make $50,000-$60,000 a year, or you're homeless and your kids are safe with you?

00:40:03.000 So whether we'd have our kids hang out with Pete Buttigieg's husband, or we'd be homeless... Okay, like, I'm talking about what's going on in Florida.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, I mean, the kids matter, but I will say, onto that point real fast, this is where I think that we're getting confused on the argument, and it's not going in circles.

00:40:19.000 Just like I watched the Gay Pride Parade in Austin in that elementary school, I'm going, I don't blame the kids that are, I think they were like 8, 9 years old, 10 years old, I don't blame the kids for, you know, anything about that.

00:40:31.000 I would blame the teachers.

00:40:33.000 And my fight would be with the teachers.

00:40:34.000 I know this is unpopular, but I'm going to say this.

00:40:37.000 I know, but I'm just pointing to that.

00:40:39.000 I view people who are asleep, a lot of people who are asleep, With the same way that I view children is that they are not aware of what's going on, and I don't assume they all know what's going on, so I keep accountable those that do.

00:40:50.000 And if there are swimmers that are out there that fully are aware of what's going on, they know what they're doing is wrong and they choose to do it, then yes, I would call them out, but we don't know.

00:40:57.000 And I'm asking you a specific question.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, I'd rather be homeless.

00:41:00.000 You would rather be homeless, safe with your kids.

00:41:02.000 Yeah, because I'd figure out another way to make money.

00:41:03.000 Well, so the response we get every time I bring this up, and we have Super Chats right here saying this exact thing, is, I can't speak up because I would lose my job, you know, and my kids need to eat and things like that.

00:41:14.000 In West Virginia, you'd think it's the second most Trump-supporting state in the country.

00:41:19.000 You'd think the schools are going to be Republican.

00:41:21.000 They're not.

00:41:22.000 The school board members who were voted in are woke.

00:41:25.000 There are kids in West Virginia schools who are being groomed and indoctrinated.

00:41:29.000 And there are parents who say, I don't care enough.

00:41:33.000 to risk my security and that includes my children's security. Now I can fully understand.

00:41:38.000 You prioritize your kid having a full belly over being away from groomers. I personally disagree.

00:41:45.000 I don't have kids so maybe I can't speak to it and that's fine. But I typically ask most people

00:41:50.000 and they give me the same response. I would rather be homeless and unsure of how I'm going to eat

00:41:54.000 and my kids than leave my children in the hands of a groomer for eight hours every day at these 0.98

00:42:00.000 My question is then, why so many parents do it?

00:42:02.000 And I think it's because the parents, many of them don't know.

00:42:05.000 And I'll totally contend to that, and we're fighting every day to inform them.

00:42:10.000 But many of the parents do know and tell me, well, I don't want to lose my job.

00:42:14.000 Okay. Look, no disrespect. You've chosen it. We had, um, we had Andrew Heaton on

00:42:19.000 and I was explaining, he's, he's, you know, middle of the road guy. And he says both sides,

00:42:23.000 you know, I take issue with. He's a libertarian guy. I think, is he a libertarian? Yeah.

00:42:28.000 I said, the right makes their arguments based off of, they present facts they can prove to you and then from those facts will give you their opinion on why their policy ideas are correct.

00:42:41.000 The left will lie to you about what the problem is because the ends justify the means to convince you to side with them.

00:42:49.000 And his response was that I was describing the left as, you know, bad or evil and the right as moral.

00:42:55.000 And I said, no, no, I'm not.

00:42:57.000 The left literally will tell you this by any means necessary.

00:43:00.000 In their books, they write the strategy of keeping secrets.

00:43:04.000 There's undercover video being exposed right now.

00:43:07.000 Something from Accuracy in Media was going viral, where teachers are saying, we're going to change the language, but keep CRT in schools.

00:43:12.000 We can't let the parents know.

00:43:14.000 This is exactly what they'll tell you they're doing.

00:43:16.000 What I said to him was, if you think that I'm describing them as good or evil, it's because you view one side as good or evil, not because I've ascribed that to them.

00:43:25.000 The right does this.

00:43:26.000 They'll say, look at this fact.

00:43:27.000 It's not from me, it's proof, right?

00:43:29.000 Therefore, here's my argument on moral issues or whatever.

00:43:32.000 The left will say, here's a manipulation to trick you into agreeing with me.

00:43:36.000 We see it all the time in the press.

00:43:38.000 These are tendencies, not absolutes.

00:43:40.000 When it comes to somebody who says, you know, I can't speak up because my kids or whatever, What they're really saying is, deep down they know their kid being in this position is very wrong and bad, but they prefer to keep their kid with the groomer than lose their job.

00:43:56.000 Actions speak louder than words.

00:43:57.000 And if I could answer now too, I would have the same exact answer as Elijah to say, you know, I would rather be homeless and take care of my child and protect my kids.

00:44:06.000 But what you just laid out there, Tim, is exactly why our country is where it is today.

00:44:10.000 Because if push comes to shove, and I think about this all the time with the Second Amendment, right?

00:44:14.000 If push comes to shove, how many Americans do you think if the police were at their door right now and said, give us your guns or we will kill you, how many of them would just give up their guns willingly and give up their second amendment and rights?

00:44:25.000 People do not understand that standing up for your rights means you are willing to die for your rights and you need to be ready to die for your rights, for your freedoms every single day.

00:44:34.000 People don't seem to understand that because we've been so coddled as a society because we face no Real challenges as, you know, in this country.

00:44:43.000 And so people so willingly give away their rights and freedoms, which is why for the past year, we've watched people say, I don't want to get vaccinated, but I'm going to do it to keep my job because the government told me to do it.

00:44:53.000 If the government tells me to take four or five, six boosters, I will do it because they told me to.

00:44:57.000 People do not have the mentality that they need to fight for their rights and die for them.

00:45:03.000 And they don't get it, which is why we're here.

00:45:04.000 Let's jump to the story about censorship.

00:45:07.000 We have this from TimCast.com.

00:45:09.000 Patreon bans users for content on other platforms without warning.

00:45:13.000 Yep.

00:45:14.000 This week, Patreon, which hosts paid content for creators, has banned two well-known creators from its platform for appearances and content shared on other media platforms.

00:45:21.000 On Tuesday, Sydney Watson, host of You Are Here, I've heard of that show, on BlazeTV was banned from the platform.

00:45:27.000 Watson does not regularly post content to the site, but was banned over hate speech, according to a notice from Patreon.

00:45:34.000 Watson's program on Blaze TV covers current topics, such as Disney employee walkouts.

00:45:37.000 I think we know that.

00:45:38.000 Plus, we have Elijah here, so we can move on.

00:45:40.000 And we also had Josh Lakoch.

00:45:43.000 Is that how you pronounce it?

00:45:44.000 Lake Cash, I think.

00:45:45.000 Lake Cash?

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 He was banned hours after appearing on InfoWars.

00:45:47.000 So these are two accounts.

00:45:49.000 But it's not just, you know, these individuals on Patreon.

00:45:52.000 It's also Tucker Carlson got censored on Twitter.

00:45:55.000 And Charlie Kirk and the Babylon Bee.

00:45:59.000 So it looks like we're starting to see censorship kicking back up.

00:46:02.000 For a while there, there was a small lull, right?

00:46:05.000 Censorship was huge news for a long period of time.

00:46:08.000 All of a sudden now, the reason I would say it looks like we're starting to see things kicking to high gear is that Tucker Carlson getting censored is big.

00:46:14.000 I mean, he's prominent.

00:46:15.000 But seeing Sidney Watson get her Patreon banned when she doesn't even post to it, It's very interesting to me.

00:46:21.000 Why would they shut down Sydney's Patreon?

00:46:24.000 Here's my thoughts.

00:46:25.000 She was getting about a thousand bucks a month from Patreon, passively.

00:46:29.000 This helps Sydney exist, and do work, and be influential.

00:46:32.000 The midterm elections are coming up, and just one month ago, Mike Bloomberg said the Democrats are going to get wiped out.

00:46:38.000 The polls are showing, as of the past few months, Democrats are getting wiped out.

00:46:42.000 Mike Bloomberg was interesting because he said, the reason they're going to get wiped out is because Americans perceive Democrats as being too obsessed with cultural issues and not economic issues.

00:46:50.000 Well, why would people believe that?

00:46:52.000 I mean, if you watch the mainstream media, Sure, you might hear, like CNN and MSNBC will talk some about the Democrats, but for the most part, no, they're trying to prop them up.

00:47:01.000 It's channels like ours, it's shows like yours, Elijah with Sydney, that are bringing up the cultural issues Democrats are engaged in, what the schools are actually fighting for.

00:47:10.000 The teachers are trying to keep these things a secret.

00:47:13.000 They don't want parents to know about it.

00:47:14.000 If the parents didn't know about it, they'd probably not think Democrats were fighting for it.

00:47:19.000 Because people like you or I expose this stuff, there's a perception growing among regular voters that Democrats are obsessed with cultural issues.

00:47:27.000 Then they ban Sidney Watson seemingly out of the blue for no reason.

00:47:29.000 Why?

00:47:30.000 They want to start stripping away influence like we saw in 2018.

00:47:34.000 The first Patreon purge?

00:47:35.000 It happened just after the midterms.

00:47:37.000 I think just around the same time as the midterms.

00:47:39.000 We saw Carl Benjamin get booted, and then all of a sudden a bunch of people staged a mass exodus.

00:47:43.000 I think it may have been before the midterms, actually.

00:47:46.000 It's no surprise that right before Democrats start losing, their allies in big tech and media start coming after prominent influencers who are making Democrats look bad.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, you know, first of all, on the Sydney issue, we have to focus on this.

00:47:59.000 I'll comment on Josh in a second.

00:48:01.000 But number one, that Sydney didn't use the platform or post anything anymore is clear evidence that she didn't do anything wrong on the platform.

00:48:11.000 We know that Patreon does ban for activity outside the platform.

00:48:14.000 In fact, I ended up doing a meeting and pretending to be a, um, take one of their, um, user meetings with their engineer team and pretended like I cared.

00:48:22.000 And I recorded this.

00:48:23.000 I don't know if I should say that, but I ended up recording the audio and kept asking them questions of, of whether or not that they were, I've never published it.

00:48:29.000 So I guess it's not illegal.

00:48:30.000 Hopefully, but I also was like I was talking to them and I genuinely this is years ago It's like what 2018 or about I think 2018 I was like hey I just want to know if you guys are for free speech and every time I'd ask him a question They would just kind of like dodge it and it was nothing came of it Matt Christensen got on a call recorded it years ago Do you remember the 2018 when Matt Christensen like recorded his phone call?

00:48:48.000 Yeah, yeah, so he literally got on there and And when he was asked about it, whether it's a free, if they care about free speech, they were just like, I don't know.

00:48:56.000 Like basically they didn't want to answer.

00:48:57.000 So I looked back, I had tweets in 2018 saying, I got to leave.

00:49:00.000 And my first tweet of January 1st of 2019 was like, my goal this year is to leave Patreon.

00:49:05.000 And I did, and I lost thousands of dollars prematurely because I knew that this would happen.

00:49:09.000 But with Sidney Watson, there's three things that are really vital here.

00:49:12.000 Number one, Sidney is not a religious, zealot, nut, right-wing extremist, you know, person, some white straight male that we got to get off because you're gonna bring the nationalist fascist government back.

00:49:22.000 Sidney is a cultured, atheist, very well-spoken, well-researched individual who mostly just puts out on her own channel hyper-researched, well-thought-out, scripted videos.

00:49:33.000 She has no history of making extremist statements.

00:49:35.000 She's never been a part of an extremist group.

00:49:38.000 The closest thing she's ever done to extremism was run a men's rights conference in Australia, another country, for their rights and to fight for them, which was controversial in Australia, which everything's controversial there.

00:49:48.000 But more importantly, the ironic part is we run a show together now.

00:49:52.000 And the whole reason why we run a show together, she's the sane one who actually brings some logic and some straightforwardness and helps keep me back in reality where she lives while I'm out in space.

00:50:02.000 So it's like Sydney's reputation Is actually for being calculated for thinking things through.

00:50:08.000 And she's known for, if she doesn't know stuff, we'll say, I actually haven't researched that.

00:50:11.000 I don't know that.

00:50:12.000 So you're taking just a normal girl. 1.00

00:50:14.000 Who's literally from Australia, who doesn't have a history of anything gets deleted.

00:50:19.000 You know, it's targeting for a specific reason.

00:50:21.000 And I I'm wondering though, with this, as they deleted her, I wonder if they're just testing who else they can delete.

00:50:26.000 Cause if they can get somebody who doesn't post, but it's still making money, I feel like it gives them the green light to go, well, let's go after other people too.

00:50:33.000 There's no evidence.

00:50:34.000 I mean, it was three and a half years ago we saw these conversations.

00:50:34.000 Nothing happens.

00:50:39.000 I will say, for Sydney, I reached out to her.

00:50:42.000 I asked her if it was like a background thing for her, meaning she has it, it's available to people, but she doesn't actively post there, so it exists.

00:50:50.000 But it's not like she was using the platform and ran afoul of their rules.

00:50:56.000 As for Josh, I really have to question why he was on Patreon.

00:51:00.000 Josh Lakosh.

00:51:02.000 You know, you know, are you familiar with Wrong Opinion Podcast?

00:51:05.000 I'm not familiar, but I would like to comment on Sydney very quickly before you move on to Josh.

00:51:08.000 I would just say that this is the soft introduction to people getting banned from banks, which we're already seeing here in America.

00:51:14.000 Look at what just happened in Canada.

00:51:16.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:51:17.000 Well, no, the point I was bringing up with Josh is that all of this happened almost four years ago.

00:51:21.000 I think it's fair to say three and a half years ago, because it was three years and five months.

00:51:25.000 So for Sydney to get banned, she got banned for what Carl Benjamin got banned for, the exact same thing.

00:51:30.000 Hate speech.

00:51:31.000 Off-platform behavior.

00:51:32.000 I see.

00:51:33.000 So again, I'll say this.

00:51:35.000 What did she do? 0.80

00:51:36.000 Do you have any clue?

00:51:37.000 She existed.

00:51:38.000 For Sydney, she wasn't using Patreon as like her core income.

00:51:44.000 And so, you know, I don't really care.

00:51:46.000 If you have a Patreon right now and you're like, oh, I don't really care about it.

00:51:48.000 I don't even think twice.

00:51:49.000 If it's gone, it's gone.

00:51:50.000 It's here.

00:51:51.000 There's money.

00:51:51.000 It's whatever.

00:51:52.000 I'm like, okay, I get it.

00:51:53.000 But the reason I brought up Josh is that he put his career on a platform where over three years ago, Lauren Southern was nuked overnight without warning, and then Carl Benjamin, the CEO, said, we'll never do this again.

00:52:04.000 We will issue warnings to people.

00:52:06.000 Let them know because we don't want to take their income.

00:52:08.000 And then someone dug up a live stream where Carl Benjamin was making a point about he was arguing with people who he says were alt-right.

00:52:18.000 And so he used a racist term to describe them.

00:52:21.000 And his point was, you are exactly the way you describe these people.

00:52:25.000 For that, Patreon banned his account without warning.

00:52:28.000 for off-platform behavior and then reported that, you know, he said a racial slur and got banned.

00:52:33.000 Three years later, Josh is still using the platform. I mean, I'm like at a certain point

00:52:38.000 there is, I think it's wrong, they shouldn't have banned him, but it's almost, it's also like bro,

00:52:43.000 if you, if you, if like Antifa puts up a big flyer saying we're having an Antifa party and we're

00:52:47.000 going to beat up Elijah Schaffer and then Elijah Schaffer's like, I'm going to go to that.

00:52:50.000 That was my job for like 18 months.

00:52:51.000 No, but I mean like specifically saying like, like a career choice, like this bill, like it's one thing to be in a public space that everyone's allowed to access.

00:52:59.000 But Patreon is a private company that I do understand.

00:53:02.000 And the moment they took action against Lauren and Carl, I was like, I'm out.

00:53:06.000 Red flag, yeah.

00:53:06.000 After Loren, I actually talked to the CEO, and he was like, dude, we're trying, you gotta understand.

00:53:12.000 I argued with him, and I even, you know, I'm pretty sure he didn't even know what he was talking about when it came to Loren Southern, when I talked to him.

00:53:19.000 When it happened with Carl Benjamin, I was like, this dude lied to us.

00:53:23.000 So they invited us into their business. 0.93

00:53:25.000 Let's say it was a sandwich shop that had a big sign saying, Elijah Schaefer will get punched in the face.

00:53:29.000 I was like, would you go in there?

00:53:30.000 You know, like, you know, they're coming after you.

00:53:32.000 Depends if it's a Monday.

00:53:33.000 Or like, they're going to spit in your food.

00:53:34.000 They're not going to service you.

00:53:35.000 I get what you're saying.

00:53:36.000 Like, there are so many opportunities, I think, you've seen, too, where, like, genuinely, and I want to hear Sav's opinion on this, someone who is just fresh off the loop train, is where I do get, I totally understand this.

00:53:50.000 I have a hard time commenting since I run primarily my career on YouTube.

00:53:54.000 And I know YouTube hates me and I know that I could lose my channels any second.

00:53:58.000 And I know we're all kind of playing that game.

00:54:00.000 I would say, I think Josh just probably bet on the fact that, and I don't mean this disrespectfully to him, that it's more of a niche, smaller podcast.

00:54:06.000 He's not Lauren Southern.

00:54:07.000 He's not going on some ship cruise and wearing it's okay to be white t-shirts into Australia and whatnot.

00:54:12.000 He's not doing these things.

00:54:13.000 He's not getting the national press.

00:54:14.000 He's got a niche podcast.

00:54:16.000 And I love Lauren Southern so much.

00:54:18.000 But I meant like, he's got this way where you think, well, I'm probably beyond scrutiny.

00:54:23.000 Like even Sydney or whatever is raising in her profile.

00:54:26.000 She's been very successful recently and throughout her career.

00:54:30.000 I think she'll eventually be at a million subs pretty soon. 1.00

00:54:33.000 And so she could be a target, but not me.

00:54:35.000 And so that's what we're kind of seeing like with Sav, where it's like, and I'm not meaning this to disrespect you either, where Sav's learned that's the hard way is like, it doesn't matter how big you are.

00:54:44.000 It matters what you're doing.

00:54:45.000 It really does.

00:54:46.000 It's inverted actually.

00:54:47.000 The bigger you are, the harder it is to ban you because it makes too big of a splash.

00:54:51.000 That's why when it came to Learn to Code, Twitter mostly banned smaller accounts.

00:54:56.000 So when the Learn to Code thing was happening, and they were banning people, it was mostly people with a few hundred followers who were just engaging and sharing and talking.

00:55:05.000 I tweeted Learn to Code several times.

00:55:07.000 Nothing ever happened to me.

00:55:09.000 My account was just too big.

00:55:10.000 It would have been too big of an issue.

00:55:11.000 And they said, oh no.

00:55:12.000 So they can get rid of as many of these conservatives as possible saying Learn to Code, and none of them are big enough to actually make a splash.

00:55:19.000 That's what they're going for.

00:55:20.000 So, banning Josh is actually entirely predictable.

00:55:23.000 If you're a small creator, like if you're a new channel, with maybe only a hundred to several thousand followers, and you go on YouTube, you'll be banned in two seconds.

00:55:32.000 If you go on Patreon, you'll be banned in two seconds.

00:55:34.000 This is why I say, if you're just starting out now, Rumble is the place to be.

00:55:38.000 Absolutely Rumble.

00:55:40.000 Or mines.

00:55:40.000 But Rumble is gonna be growing, plus there's locals integration with Rumble.

00:55:44.000 I've got my issues with locals, but they're still substantially better than Patreon, I can't imagine.

00:55:48.000 Like, there's no reason you couldn't just go to locals.

00:55:50.000 You know, you build your business on the platform of someone who expressly says, like, we're going to destroy you, and we want to, and then you're shocked when they do.

00:55:58.000 Well, and that's the thing, too, that we all should have learned from Alex Jones being banned, right?

00:56:02.000 It was Alex Jones. 0.97

00:56:03.000 He was crazy. 0.96

00:56:04.000 He was a conspiracy theorist. 0.99

00:56:05.000 Everyone was like, yeah, yeah, he deserves to be banned.

00:56:08.000 No one else is going to get banned.

00:56:09.000 And then as the years have progressed, we've seen more and more people get banned.

00:56:13.000 And like you just talked about, Tim, you know, if you're an independent journalist who's just getting into the game, You are not going to make it if you're willing to tell the truth.

00:56:21.000 You're not going to make it if you're actually trying to go out on the street and go get those interviews and go viral.

00:56:26.000 It's very difficult.

00:56:27.000 On Rumble?

00:56:28.000 Yeah, Rumble, sure.

00:56:30.000 It's growing.

00:56:31.000 It's a new platform.

00:56:32.000 But I mean, think about the fact that you, Candice Owens, Elijah Schafer, Steven Crowder, a lot of these big names, you guys got really popular back in the day when YouTube was still the wild, wild west, when you could still say whatever you wanted on Twitter.

00:56:43.000 Now it's really difficult to break into the space unless you're on an alternative platform like Truth Social or Locals, Rumble, all that stuff.

00:56:51.000 I agree and disagree.

00:56:52.000 I got big well after the censorship was taking effect.

00:56:55.000 I mean, my main growth was in 2019.

00:57:00.000 That's when it hit, too, the major news shift on YouTube.

00:57:04.000 It was 2018 in May when YouTube nuked my channels.

00:57:07.000 Everyone's channels got nuked across the board.

00:57:09.000 And it was only last year the censorship got removed on Google for Timcast.

00:57:15.000 So we actually were hindered for a long time.

00:57:17.000 I think the issue was that, for one, I'm a workaholic.

00:57:21.000 I was producing, I think, four hours of content every day, more than any other talk radio host or podcaster, and weekends with no days off.

00:57:29.000 That helped me kind of push through this barrier they were setting up.

00:57:33.000 And then last year, I mentioned on this show that you couldn't even Google search TimCast, the channels, or any of our videos.

00:57:40.000 That if you took the title of one of our segments and put it in Google, Facebook would come up.

00:57:45.000 You could even try and search for YouTube.

00:57:46.000 And then immediately after that, the next day, the filters were removed.

00:57:50.000 So we actually went through all of that.

00:57:52.000 We had the Alternative Influencer Network study that was published by all these major outlets that tried claiming I was the center, no joke, of like this vast network of the alt-right or something.

00:58:02.000 Craziest thing ever.

00:58:03.000 Claimed that I had done segments with people I'd never met before.

00:58:05.000 Claimed that Chris Reagan had coordinated with Richard Spencer.

00:58:10.000 Like, the levels of lies and smears.

00:58:12.000 Chris Reagan?

00:58:12.000 Who?

00:58:13.000 Chris Reagan.

00:58:13.000 Oh, I don't know who that is.

00:58:14.000 You know the song, Punch a Nazi? 0.54

00:58:17.000 No, I don't.

00:58:19.000 I just hear that yelled at me before I end up getting a black eye.

00:58:22.000 It's a satirical song based on Paparazzi by Lady Gaga where he mocks the left for thinking everyone's a Nazi.

00:58:29.000 He did delete, he unlisted the video because I guess the left told him it was bad and he like apologized or something for it and removed it, which I think is ridiculous and silly because it was a great point he was making.

00:58:39.000 But the point being, The true era of free speech on YouTube was... 2006.

00:58:44.000 After Google bought them in 2006, it was about four months, and then they made their first ban, and it was Warren 25.

00:58:51.000 Go back and watch Warren 25 videos if you can find any of them.

00:58:55.000 He had to change his name to Warren 25 Smash.

00:58:57.000 He came back, then they banned that.

00:58:59.000 He would swear profanities at George Bush to end the war.

00:59:02.000 Just this Canadian dude.

00:59:03.000 Oh, so lit.

00:59:04.000 And he gave me inspiration to speak my mind.

00:59:07.000 Dude, I get so sad that I'll never get to experience YouTube at its peak.

00:59:10.000 You can go back and watch it.

00:59:11.000 But it was cool.

00:59:12.000 A lot of late nights video chatting.

00:59:13.000 Do you remember that?

00:59:14.000 Niko Avocado, his name was literally not the N-I-K-K.

00:59:17.000 It was N-I-G-G-A. 1.00

00:59:18.000 And Avocado, he's a white guy, on YouTube for a long time.

00:59:21.000 And then he was, it wasn't even as bad as it is now.

00:59:23.000 All he had to come out was be like, yo, I didn't know we weren't supposed to be using the N-word in our names.

00:59:29.000 And then everyone was like, cool.

00:59:30.000 And he's still popular.

00:59:31.000 He's like one of the most viral people in the world.

00:59:33.000 He's like, sorry, try doing that today.

00:59:35.000 Call yourself N-Word Cast IRL.

00:59:37.000 It's not going to work.

00:59:38.000 There is no peak of YouTube.

00:59:40.000 There isn't one.

00:59:41.000 I mean, maybe we'll see it once YouTube's completely obliterated.

00:59:44.000 But I was at the Tribeca Film Festival ceremony thing.

00:59:48.000 I got invited to back in, I think, 2012.

00:59:49.000 This is 20... I'm pretty sure this is 2012.

00:59:53.000 And there was this very popular YouTube group, I'll let them keep their privacy, and they were talking to me about how, they were like, man, YouTube used to be amazing back in like 2009, 2010.

01:00:04.000 They were like, we'd put up a video and we'd get like 5 million views, now we're lucky if we get half a million.

01:00:08.000 That was in 2012 they were saying that.

01:00:10.000 Vice, they got all of their big play on their documentaries in like 2009 and 2010.

01:00:16.000 And then after that, it's like on average, they get like 50,000 now.

01:00:20.000 So people are like, the, the, the, oh man, the best time was four or five years ago.

01:00:24.000 Now there's, there's, there's, there's no, it's getting bad.

01:00:27.000 It's getting worse.

01:00:28.000 But I think the reality is right now, the ladder is being pulled up behind you.

01:00:34.000 There are different periods where everyone thinks, like, this period was the peak, this period was the peak.

01:00:38.000 I don't know when the peak was, to be honest.

01:00:40.000 Maybe 2012, but maybe not even, because your real opportunity for virality in the era of Reddit and YouTube, this is how, you know, I'm gonna leave people's names out of it, but there's a very prominent podcast that's, like, spiraling out of control and failing with, you know, this He's like, the host is sitting in the room and I'm like, but I won't point fingers.

01:00:59.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:01:01.000 It's a big podcast.

01:01:01.000 Slightly offensive is spiraling out of control.

01:01:03.000 I'm going to leave their name out of it because what they would do is they would manipulate Reddit to get YouTube traction and it worked.

01:01:11.000 So there are certain things everyone knew Reddit wanted, and it was very, very easy to gamify the Reddit upvote and downvote system.

01:01:18.000 And so people who didn't know about this, like politicians and big companies, didn't know how to gamify Reddit.

01:01:25.000 So it was just savvy people who had been in the internet figured out how to exploit it to make themselves famous, and they did.

01:01:30.000 And there was this period where if you were smart and you had the ability, you'd make it happen.

01:01:36.000 Now, I agree with you, we're at a point where you can't do it.

01:01:39.000 The ladder's being pulled up behind everybody.

01:01:42.000 If you're really good, you can find a way, but I will say, we're at a point where the ladder's gone, go on Rumble.

01:01:47.000 Well, but here's the fundamental issue, and this is what's so insane to me, of how this is backfiring.

01:01:53.000 Because I feel like I just squeezed in in the last second.

01:01:57.000 It was like the last ditch effort.

01:01:58.000 And one of the other people that squeezed in, Sydney squeezed in, John Doyle squeezed in.

01:02:02.000 It's like this 2018 year.

01:02:03.000 This is right before it got really bad in 2019.

01:02:06.000 If you got in on 2018, you essentially, you know, in the terms of the girl getting passed around the team, you were the fourth or fifth in, but you still made it into the game.

01:02:15.000 You still got something.

01:02:15.000 It's true.

01:02:16.000 And we got action.

01:02:17.000 And a lot of our channels aren't as big as other channels.

01:02:19.000 We face a lot of stuff.

01:02:20.000 But I'm grateful.

01:02:21.000 And I'm grateful for what I have.

01:02:22.000 I'm grateful for the career God gave me.

01:02:24.000 And I'm happy about that.

01:02:25.000 But here's where I'm not happy.

01:02:27.000 I'm upset.

01:02:28.000 And it makes me angry.

01:02:30.000 Because they have done two things that is both unforgivable and is going to damage our country as a whole.

01:02:37.000 And I don't think it can be undone.

01:02:39.000 Number one, by shutting the door to individual creators, that was their point, is to take away independent media.

01:02:44.000 Because not just the right wing, but as we see with like Russell Brand or Joe Rogan, people who are not right wing, but are inherently open to ideas, which is now becoming a right wing idea.

01:02:51.000 I don't know if you saw today that MSNBC says that exercise is a right wing idea, which I actually kind of agree with.

01:02:58.000 But I will say that they shut the door because, it's a joke, but okay.

01:03:02.000 Anyway, so they shut the door to independent and small media.

01:03:07.000 And that was always their plan.

01:03:09.000 My new PA, Josiah Moody, who started, he was like, Hey, I was like, yeah, Tucker at his peak, we'll get, you know, three, 3.5 million views.

01:03:15.000 He goes, yeah, but have you seen his YouTube?

01:03:16.000 It's crushing.

01:03:17.000 And I go, yeah, bro, I'm going to tell you about this one thing called authoritative news sources where they gave all the news media Basically all of the views that we would all get so number one that shut it out And that doesn't allow us to have ideas it gives the mainstream media control of the internet Which they didn't have in our country, but the worst part about this is and you'll know this the worst part about this Let's say you're new and you want to come up

01:03:39.000 Well, the way that you want to come up in your new, in your political, you can't go with the views model unless you work for mainstream media, so you've got to build a cult following.

01:03:47.000 A cult following will always reward more extreme ideas.

01:03:50.000 And not only will it reward more extreme ideas, but it'll actually push you into corners, into more niche avenues, which will make somebody try to appeal to a more extreme perspective.

01:03:59.000 And I see this happening all across the board, especially with Gen Z, is that they've become very authoritarian on left and the right. 0.96

01:04:06.000 The people that they like to watch that are more like, you know, demonetized, ban on Twitch, either they're pushing straight up fascism or communism.

01:04:12.000 They're pushing absolute authoritarianism.

01:04:14.000 And what you do is the only place that you can grow, you can go onto like, you can go onto any of these, you know, side apps where people have fundamentally more extreme views. 0.99

01:04:23.000 Now, what that does is it means if you want to find someone who's young, who thinks like you, who's a new creator, Timple sucks, Elijah sucks, Sav sucks, Ian sucks. 0.97

01:04:31.000 Okay, I don't want to hear these millennial people, whatever, get the hell out. 0.99

01:04:35.000 Where's my Gen Z? 0.97

01:04:36.000 You've got a few options, and I'm not going to name them on the screen.

01:04:38.000 You've got a few options.

01:04:39.000 I'm telling you, you're not getting kosher ideas.

01:04:41.000 Those are fringe ideas.

01:04:43.000 Some of them, you know, whether you agree with them or not, you have one option.

01:04:45.000 So they're creating an extremist pipeline that they say they're trying to ban, and that's what makes it sad is that young guy goes, well, I want to be a right-wing podcaster.

01:04:54.000 If you're espousing Charlie Kirk's views, Ben Shapiro's views, you aren't going to get anywhere.

01:04:59.000 You're going to have to go as far right or as far left as possible.

01:05:02.000 You're going to have to appeal to the extreme base, focus on small donations, and then we start breeding these little, like, cosmic groups of people who are in an echo chamber, and they all think they're right.

01:05:12.000 They're completely detached from any of the mainstream narrative, any of the independent media, and they're doing their own thing, and I feel like we've lost them.

01:05:18.000 They hate us all, by the way.

01:05:19.000 Gen Z hates, like, they really genuinely do, like, hate the millennials and all the other creators.

01:05:24.000 They're right to hate millennials. 1.00

01:05:25.000 Well, yeah, but I'm what I'm saying. I'm only half kidding But I meant there's no olive branch because you don't have

01:05:29.000 like a good Gen Z youtuber that comes on your show And then you're debating and you're on his channel. We just

01:05:33.000 don't have that. There's like a cutoff It's like 25 years old and everyone under that is now in

01:05:38.000 their own niche and we have a divide Politically and I don't know what they're up to until I go

01:05:41.000 to their their their streaming sites and I'll watch them. I'm like, oh

01:05:45.000 crap Like, I mean, from Charlie Kirk to now, I'm glad we've gotten more, like, open to discussing ideas.

01:05:52.000 Charlie Kirk is Gen Z, isn't he? 0.98

01:05:54.000 No, he's my age, 28, so he's millennial.

01:05:56.000 28's millennial?

01:05:57.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:05:57.000 I think 26 is the cutoff, or 25 is the cutoff.

01:06:01.000 But I was gonna say, yeah, under 25, I'm going, it's not that all their ideas are wrong, I'm just going, oh, we went here that quickly? 0.91

01:06:01.000 Oh, okay. 0.91

01:06:07.000 It's been four years, and We're now talking about the authoritarian takeover of the country and getting rid of the constitution, installing a king, and a mono-religious state.

01:06:17.000 I'm going, how did we jump in five years from, hey, let's talk about H-1B visas and talk about immigration moratoriums to a Catholic Christendom?

01:06:27.000 It's not that these people are any... I'm not scared of them or anything, I'm just going, oh crap, that was a fast acceleration politically.

01:06:33.000 I just want to mention something, because I was watching, I think I was watching Fox, I'm not sure, and a commercial came on With Charlie Kirk, he was promoting some kind of product for like back pain, I think it was.

01:06:44.000 I'm not entirely sure, but it was just interesting because it was like him talking about how he was having trouble exercising and he needed some supplements or something like that.

01:06:52.000 And I'm like, isn't Charlie like in his mid to late 20s?

01:06:55.000 It was just kind of weird.

01:06:56.000 I just, you know, I don't know if you've seen the commercials.

01:06:58.000 No, I do know.

01:06:59.000 I always get shocked that he's my age because he's a lot richer than me and done so much more of his life.

01:07:05.000 People criticize him, but I always say this.

01:07:06.000 He has a lot you could criticize and that shows he's done a lot and there's fair points.

01:07:10.000 But all I want to end with the point on that is that that is where There's an article written about me recently that was supposed to be a pejorative, like, sort of diss that was going, oh, Elijah is becoming the olive branch, connecting the fringe right to the mainstream right.

01:07:26.000 And I'm like, hell yeah, I am.

01:07:26.000 Yes.

01:07:27.000 Yes, I am. 1.00

01:07:28.000 Because I think that the mainstream right freaking sucks. 0.98

01:07:31.000 And I think the fringe right is idealistic and they see the problems, but they're overcorrecting. 0.99

01:07:35.000 I think instead of, you know, understanding that, yeah, maybe you don't like feminist women and maybe, you know, you want to see women be wholesome. 0.99

01:07:41.000 Don't just hate women.

01:07:42.000 Don't be proud to be an incel. 0.95

01:07:44.000 The two shall become one, get married, find a wholesome woman. 0.99

01:07:47.000 You know, if you're out there and you're like, Hey, yeah, I realize the LGBT movement sucks. 1.00

01:07:51.000 They're talking about putting the gays against the wall and shooting them. 1.00

01:07:54.000 And you're like, Hey, there's steps between that to where you can fix society. 1.00

01:07:58.000 that doesn't have to jump straight to like mass killings of people.

01:08:01.000 And I see, I kind of think maybe that's just a really fringe thing.

01:08:05.000 Cause it is not as fringe as you would think.

01:08:07.000 The, it is the, the idea of going from just, Hey, let's fight the LGBTQ movement 1.00

01:08:12.000 to let's do away with them is pretty, pretty relevant and common.

01:08:15.000 And what I'm saying is I'm going, Hey, we need to kind of slow this down for a

01:08:19.000 And we need to figure this out because we're going literally from like, Hey, we need Christ back in the country, which we do to like, let's create a religious state that is, we're going back yet to a monarchy and stuff.

01:08:30.000 And I'm going, Hey, that's maybe ideal, not realistic.

01:08:33.000 So let's bring some of these kids out of the, out of the echo chambers, let them experience life and see, Hey, let's, let's attain to some real solutions rather than these extreme positions that might lead to absolute anarchy.

01:08:46.000 Are these positions like on TikTok?

01:08:48.000 They're on TikTok.

01:08:50.000 They're on Rumble.

01:08:51.000 They're on BitChute. 1.00

01:08:52.000 They are on independent streaming sites.

01:08:55.000 And I'm not saying that I disagree with everything these people think.

01:08:58.000 I just see that they're young people who are disconnected from older people with wisdom. 0.75

01:09:02.000 So they're taking these super overcorrective worldviews that are based in truth and out of a desire to correct what's wrong in the country.

01:09:10.000 But they're disconnected from reality.

01:09:11.000 They sound completely insane.

01:09:12.000 Yeah, but they're disconnected from reality.

01:09:13.000 But their echo chambers are growing so large that they all think that they're right, because they don't like us.

01:09:18.000 They don't talk to any of us.

01:09:20.000 No one will talk to them.

01:09:22.000 People won't even say Nick Fuentes' name or any other young Gen Z leader.

01:09:25.000 So we've got to push into a corner.

01:09:29.000 You're talking about a very extreme statement here about killing people.

01:09:33.000 I've not seen prominent or large groups of Gen Z doing anything like that.

01:09:37.000 Prominent in terms of famous?

01:09:39.000 I'm talking about prominent in terms of something that's received a lot of attention.

01:09:44.000 Like, it sounds maybe like, yeah, there are fringe groups of people, but they're not very large.

01:09:49.000 I find it hard to believe that there's large groups of Gen Z who believe what you're saying.

01:09:54.000 I would disagree and I would say that we've, I think it's our fault.

01:09:56.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:09:57.000 I think we've rejected them.

01:09:58.000 Like people won't have conversations with people.

01:10:00.000 And I think if you were very neoliberal now, and we've gotten to a point where we've accepted a sort of degenerate States of America.

01:10:06.000 And if you start to disagree with that, as you know, even if you like misgender someone, you could be banned.

01:10:10.000 These people rejected entirely.

01:10:11.000 And they're just like, let's have a solution.

01:10:13.000 Let's figure this out and let's do something.

01:10:15.000 And I'm saying very, very extreme ideas.

01:10:18.000 Don't get rebuttaled.

01:10:19.000 I don't see.

01:10:20.000 Like, to your point, I don't see them getting rebuttaled in these circles that it's kind of like, I agree with them, there's a big problem, but then it's like the two factors.

01:10:28.000 Big tech cut them off and so did we.

01:10:30.000 This is what Bill Ottman and Daryl Davis have been talking about.

01:10:33.000 That Minds, the platform, has been working on this for several years.

01:10:37.000 Banning people doesn't stop their ideas, it makes them worse.

01:10:41.000 It puts them in a small room where they can only fester amongst themselves.

01:10:44.000 So Minds has been trying to find a way to de-radicalize, not to de-platform.

01:10:49.000 So, you know, I think it was that Westboro Baptist Church woman.

01:10:53.000 Yeah.

01:10:53.000 She got de-radicalized on Twitter.

01:10:54.000 The daughter, yeah.

01:10:55.000 Yeah, because she was exposed to a bunch of other people and other ideas and allowed her to realize, you know, her ideas were wrong.

01:11:01.000 If these big tech companies are taking people and isolating them, I mean, yeah, there are probably places where people are saying really insane things.

01:11:09.000 But I also find it strange.

01:11:11.000 Like, I honestly, I just, I can't believe the degree to which you've explained it because, I mean, that's the kind of stuff that gets banned for even being hinted at.

01:11:18.000 Like that's my point, though, so we don't hear it.

01:11:20.000 But look at where we're at as a society as well.

01:11:22.000 That's what I was going to say is all of the people who have been banned

01:11:25.000 off of Twitter and all of these other social media platforms,

01:11:28.000 the people who have been watching the media lie to us consistently for years.

01:11:31.000 They've gotten radicalized themselves, and they don't feel like

01:11:34.000 they can trust anything in society.

01:11:36.000 They don't feel like they can trust the government.

01:11:37.000 Big Tech silences them.

01:11:39.000 And then they're going to these platforms like Parler and Gab and, you know, all of these other places.

01:11:44.000 And it's a huge echo chamber.

01:11:45.000 And so we're seeing the radicalization of both the right and the left, like Elijah's talking about, because we just have these echo chambers with people reiterating the same exact ideas.

01:11:54.000 And they continue to get more and more extreme because there's no debate or rebuttal, like you said.

01:11:58.000 In the early days of YouTube, I started to get very radical, because it was what you were talking about.

01:12:02.000 The more radical you get, the larger your cult following builds faster, and I was like propelling it, and I went semi-crazy.

01:12:08.000 I almost killed myself, and I stopped making videos.

01:12:10.000 I started building minds behind the scenes.

01:12:12.000 Intentionally, or like... No, like I was just so depressed with the world and what was happening, and I was overly red-pilled, I guess.

01:12:18.000 I overdosed.

01:12:19.000 Black-pilled.

01:12:21.000 I find now I'm way more resilient to being radicalized because I once was.

01:12:26.000 I have this, I understand how it happens.

01:12:28.000 I went through it once before and I can see it happening.

01:12:30.000 Also watching it happen to myself on video when I go back and watch my videos helps a lot because I see myself as a person.

01:12:36.000 I don't have to see it from my own perspective.

01:12:38.000 I can see it from an outside perspective and watch myself go crazy.

01:12:41.000 And more people should do that.

01:12:42.000 Let themselves be seen in public.

01:12:43.000 I know it's risky and it's nerve-wracking, but it's worth it.

01:12:46.000 This is what's been happening since censorship became an issue.

01:12:50.000 The right is overly policed, so the only people left standing are suit-wearing, more moderate or slightly center-right conservative types.

01:13:00.000 The left is left unabated, so the worst of the worst shine through.

01:13:05.000 The way I described it before is, imagine there are two kids, And the parent doesn't let their son have any ice cream, but their daughter is allowed to have all the ice cream they want.

01:13:16.000 So you walk up, and you see two kids, and you've got the daughter covered in chocolate and fudge all over her face, and she looks like a disaster, and you're like, that kid is unkempt, messy, and disorganized.

01:13:25.000 Something's wrong with it.

01:13:26.000 And then you look over, and you see this clean-cut looking child wearing a nice little suit, and you're like, see, that's how you should do it.

01:13:32.000 The assumption is one kid is inherently better than the other, but the reality is the parent just doesn't let one kid anywhere near ice cream.

01:13:38.000 So what happens on social media is you can have a fringe right-wing conspiracy theorist go on the platform and they get nuked in two seconds.

01:13:44.000 You can have Antifa advocate for violence and they're allowed.

01:13:47.000 So what ends up happening to your more mainstream urban liberal types, your city urban liberal types, is the prominent voices that get play are extreme and uncensored.

01:13:58.000 They say crazy things, and they're allowed.

01:14:00.000 So what happens?

01:14:01.000 When Richard Spencer got punched in the face, the entirety of the establishment left was cheering, calling for violence, and celebrating it.

01:14:08.000 When the Covington kid situation happened, you had large quantities of blue check establishment personalities and journalists advocating for violence against these kids.

01:14:17.000 The right can go nowhere near that, so you typically don't see the right calling for violence on Twitter.

01:14:22.000 Granted, I think if the right was uncensored as well, you'd probably see similar things, but they'd get purged from the platform.

01:14:27.000 It gives the ride a more clean-cut appearance.

01:14:30.000 So...

01:14:31.000 What they're effectively doing is the left is continually radicalizing itself through their own privilege and control of institutions.

01:14:37.000 I think that will lead to their downfall because regular people who don't want to be involved in this are starting more and more to align with conservatives.

01:14:43.000 We see it in basically every poll.

01:14:45.000 Is the economy doing well?

01:14:46.000 Independents and Republicans agree.

01:14:47.000 It's not.

01:14:48.000 Democrats for some reason think it is.

01:14:50.000 Do you approve of Joe Biden?

01:14:51.000 Independents and conservatives are like, no way, he's doing a bad job.

01:14:54.000 Democrats are out there in Wally world believing their own cult nonsense.

01:14:58.000 Because of this, regular middle-of-the-road people, the people Republicans need in order to get elected, they're siding with Republicans.

01:15:05.000 Now the general ballot polling for the midterms shows Republicans with a major advantage in 538, about 2.5 points, and at RealClearPolitics, it's like 3.5 points.

01:15:16.000 When Democrats have 5 points or less, they lose seats.

01:15:21.000 If Republicans now have an advantage, I mean, some are speculating it's going to be massive in November for Republicans.

01:15:28.000 Not that I think the Republicans will do anything, but, you know, people are certainly pissed off.

01:15:32.000 You know what, real fast, just to say, to your point, it's so common, actually, that the FBI had to add the phrase in Minecraft to their list of dog whistles because there was so much talk about violence and adding additives to them that's increased so heavily that the FBI even got involved.

01:15:48.000 And I'm not even saying that, you know, sometimes in wars are necessary, there are righteous wars.

01:15:52.000 But what I want to thank you for, for sharing that story, is like people don't realize that I myself too started out extremely radical, nearly cult-like, like into the terms of like when I, where I started was like, you know, FEMA camps and Alex, Alex Jones got me started in politics.

01:16:10.000 And then I switched over to like Ben Shapiro and stuff.

01:16:12.000 And people were nervous about my political beliefs.

01:16:14.000 I was getting in trouble.

01:16:15.000 I was doing activism. I, you know, early on had Obama's a communist t-shirt got banned from political statements at

01:16:20.000 school I'm not gonna explain everything I did but I end up getting

01:16:22.000 suspended for some of my activism in high school and I over corrected

01:16:26.000 And I started, you know doing the more the Prager you Charlie Kirk stuff, you know big tent. Let's all just get

01:16:32.000 along I'm tired of the animosity.

01:16:34.000 And it was just super, super cringy.

01:16:36.000 Like I, when I look back at myself now, I'm like, I don't even recognize the person I was.

01:16:40.000 I sort of overcorrected, like you said, cause it was like, I got so scared.

01:16:44.000 I was like, dude, the world's coming to an end.

01:16:47.000 Like I'm going to freaking die.

01:16:48.000 And so the point is, is like, I think sometimes when you go through that moment to where you, you did find yourself in what would be considered an extremist.

01:16:55.000 If I shared some of the views I held then, I could be kicked off the, I would be kicked off the

01:17:00.000 internet where it is now.

01:17:01.000 And then I overcorrected the point where I was like too cringe for the internet.

01:17:04.000 I mean, I look at some of my old things I've made. 0.99

01:17:06.000 I'm like, wow, that guy sucks. 1.00

01:17:09.000 Like you're such a loser and it's such a weak position. 1.00

01:17:11.000 You need to get stronger. 0.99

01:17:12.000 And so starting from that overcorrection now I can see like, I get why people do

01:17:17.000 follow and believe these radical things, but I also think we need to keep them

01:17:20.000 based in reality and I also get nervous too, because a lot of these are

01:17:23.000 religiously motivated arguments, but neglect to bring the Bible and actually

01:17:27.000 God's character into account.

01:17:29.000 So these are people I talk to a lot of these people who are very zealous and religious and I respect that but they don't know their Bible.

01:17:35.000 It comes a lot of times from a place of self-righteousness and bitterness and anger and hatred for the world that they've been given and I love the fact that they want to change the world but I do fear because I've been seeing it across the board with Gen Z We're not the popular ones. 1.00

01:17:49.000 They're not flooding into our shows.

01:17:51.000 They're flooding into those shows.

01:17:52.000 And if you look at their conferences and what's going on, they're getting bigger, bigger, and bigger.

01:17:56.000 And that's our fault if we're not extending and trying to bridge the gap and we just blame tech companies and go, well, I guess life is like this and we're just on the outskirts.

01:18:05.000 It's like, no, I believe in an America where we can bridge this intellectual gap that we're having.

01:18:09.000 Dude, a few years ago, Ben Shapiro was considered the intellectual dark web.

01:18:13.000 And now people think Ben Shapiro is the softest dude ever on major social issues.

01:18:17.000 And that was, what, since 2016?

01:18:18.000 But intellectual dark web was progressives.

01:18:22.000 I think it was the only conservative.

01:18:23.000 But I'm saying he was considered to be controversial.

01:18:26.000 And it's like, Ben Shapiro's not controversial at all.

01:18:29.000 Like, he's probably one of the most kosher people.

01:18:30.000 I'm saying I see a problem, and it's emerging.

01:18:33.000 We have a lot of Gen Z viewers.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, so do I.

01:18:36.000 25% of my audience are about 22%.

01:18:37.000 That's not what I meant.

01:18:39.000 Overall, there are Gen Z. That's where they're gravitating. 0.91

01:18:42.000 So people are, but it's not like all Gen Z is going in our direction.

01:18:45.000 I see the shift turning into more extreme.

01:18:47.000 Like, I genuinely see some.

01:18:47.000 I think it's because, too, Gen Z is living through the most insane period our country has seen in a long time.

01:18:53.000 Again, look at what's going on with the Supreme Court nominee right now.

01:18:56.000 She can't even identify what a woman is and then uses the word immediately after. 1.00

01:19:01.000 They're living through this insane time of cancel culture.

01:19:04.000 So we have this entire subset of the generation that feels so ostracized, feels so radicalized,

01:19:10.000 and then they see the conservative movement that is supposed to stand for them.

01:19:14.000 And it's people like I said, Matt Schlapp, who are big tent conservatism.

01:19:17.000 They don't draw any hard lines, which is why conservatism as a whole is just liberalism

01:19:21.000 at this point.

01:19:23.000 And that's even my beef with libertarianism.

01:19:25.000 If you look at human psychology, people do at.

01:19:28.000 their core inherently need to be led.

01:19:30.000 Like, not everybody is a leader.

01:19:31.000 Some people are followers.

01:19:33.000 And if you don't have somebody in the conservative movement that's actually leading the movement in the way that it should be led, and it's actually standing up for these conservative values, look at where we're at right now.

01:19:43.000 That's why we have two factions of conservatism. 0.99

01:19:45.000 That's why Gen Z feels so unheard, because they think that conservatives are weak and pathetic, because they are. 0.99

01:19:49.000 Because we're, you know, promoting people like Caitlyn Jenner. 0.97

01:19:51.000 We're promoting people who do not stand for traditional conservatism, and they see that.

01:19:57.000 Well, hey guys, everyone's looking at me all of a sudden.

01:20:00.000 I find that the solution lies in the systems that we create.

01:20:03.000 We've been working with a charity.

01:20:04.000 We're building a charity that is building decentralized software where you can host your own content on a server of your choice or your own server and get direct subscriptions.

01:20:12.000 You still have to worry about Verizon shutting you down and your ISP shutting you down.

01:20:16.000 Maybe Verizon is the ISP.

01:20:18.000 But there's also a mesh networking app called Briar where you can actually download the app and text people offline with Bluetooth.

01:20:24.000 So we're building up the mesh network.

01:20:27.000 Briar, awesome.

01:20:28.000 Not specifically, there was another ad that did just that, and it was the craziest thing.

01:20:31.000 They told everyone, turn your Bluetooth on, and then everyone's phone acts like a cell tower.

01:20:36.000 So, you could message a friend, and your message is encrypted, and it bounces off of everyone's phone.

01:20:42.000 Everyone's phone gets it, but only the one with the key would actually see the message pop up.

01:20:45.000 You can use it in a war, if all the power goes out, for instance.

01:20:47.000 I'm coming here in a war.

01:20:49.000 Oh, dude, it's gonna be so fun.

01:20:50.000 I mean, you can.

01:20:51.000 Let's play badminton.

01:20:53.000 The reason I bring it up is because I do believe that there needs to be more leaders, but not like people like Elon Musk.

01:20:59.000 He doesn't come out and tell everyone, hey, I'm your leader now.

01:21:01.000 He just makes great technology.

01:21:03.000 And because of that, we look at him like a sort of leader.

01:21:05.000 So I want to be kind of like, I'm trying to do that.

01:21:08.000 Right.

01:21:08.000 Yeah, that's what people need.

01:21:10.000 Let's do this.

01:21:10.000 Let's do one more quick segment.

01:21:11.000 Let's talk about war, because we got it.

01:21:13.000 The New York Times ran the story, the smaller bombs that could turn Ukraine into a nuclear war zone.

01:21:19.000 A photo released by Russian state-owned news agency showing the Iskander-M launch vehicle being loaded with a ballistic missile during military exercises at a Russian firing range in the... How do you pronounce that?

01:21:29.000 Yusur... Yusuriysk?

01:21:32.000 I don't know.

01:21:34.000 Now this is great.

01:21:35.000 In destructive power, the behemoths of the Cold War dwarfed the American atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.

01:21:40.000 Washington's biggest test blast was 1,000 times as large.

01:21:44.000 Moscow's was 3,000 times. 0.73

01:21:46.000 On both sides, the idea was to deter strikes with threats of vast retaliation, with mutual assured destruction, or MAD.

01:21:53.000 The psychological bar was so high that nuclear strikes came to be seen as unthinkable.

01:21:57.000 Today, both Russia and the U.S. 0.99

01:21:59.000 have nuclear arms that are much less destructive.

01:22:01.000 Their power just fractions of the Hiroshima's bomb's force.

01:22:04.000 Their use, perhaps, less frightening and more thinkable.

01:22:07.000 So this is what I was talking about a few weeks ago when I said nuclear war seems to me to be possible. 0.61

01:22:15.000 But Tim, it's OK.

01:22:15.000 It's good for the environment, remember?

01:22:17.000 A decent probability.

01:22:17.000 The media came out and said that.

01:22:18.000 It's good for the environment.

01:22:19.000 Well, that was 10 years ago.

01:22:20.000 I think USA Today had read an op-ed saying a small nuclear war could be good for the environment.

01:22:24.000 So, what I'm saying is we might see nuclear artillery.

01:22:27.000 We're going to see... Russia will use, in my opinion, if they need to.

01:22:32.000 If they are losing, I would not be surprised if Russia does use nukes. 0.93

01:22:36.000 I don't know... Let me make sure I'm clarifying this.

01:22:39.000 I don't know if the probability that Russia uses this is 10% or 2%, 50% or 1%, but Vladimir Putin continually threatens to use nukes as he will not back down.

01:22:50.000 There are a lot of people who fear that NATO doesn't care. 0.96

01:22:53.000 They're reckless or Biden is completely inept. 0.76

01:22:55.000 And what we'll end up seeing is Russia, they keep reporting as being backed into a corner. 0.97

01:22:59.000 I don't completely believe that.

01:23:00.000 I think it would be absurd to think Ukraine could beat Russia.

01:23:03.000 Russia is a massive power.

01:23:04.000 Even if it's not as big as NATO, it's like half as big as NATO.

01:23:07.000 But if Russia gets pressed by NATO, they may say, okay, let's land the big guns.

01:23:14.000 Gravity bombs, maybe something not as big as Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but powerful bombs.

01:23:19.000 They're already using the thermobaric bombs.

01:23:22.000 These things are crazy.

01:23:23.000 The missile comes down, ejects fuel, spraying it all through the air, and then sucks all the air up and explodes, like just vaporizing people.

01:23:31.000 So they've already got very, very powerful but lower yield weapons.

01:23:34.000 If Putin had to, I think he would use it.

01:23:37.000 If NATO intervenes, I think it's possible he does.

01:23:40.000 And then I'm worried about what happens to Europe.

01:23:42.000 Will we actually see Russia say, you're not gonna nuke us back, we can do what we want?

01:23:46.000 And then, you know, honestly, I was thinking about it earlier, because there's this conspiracy theory.

01:23:51.000 Someone predicted a year ago what's happening now.

01:23:54.000 And so this meme's going viral where some guy's like, here's what's gonna happen with Russia.

01:23:57.000 And the next step, they said, was that NATO would get involved, Russia would threaten nuclear weapons, NATO would call their bluff, Russia would say, oh yeah, and then fire a nuke, and then you get nuclear war.

01:24:07.000 I'm not entirely, like, it seems far-fetched, but I also think it would be silly for us at this point, it would be optimism and normalcy bias to think a nuclear war would never happen.

01:24:17.000 I think specifically you're talking about explosive nuclear weapons too, because the Americans in Iraq in the second Iraq war used depleted uranium weapons, because in order to penetrate armor in a tank that's made with the depleted uranium, you need depleted uranium bullets.

01:24:31.000 So they just sprayed them across the desert, they're underground in the desert irradiating Yeah, we're talking about...

01:24:36.000 That's nuclear war.

01:24:37.000 So not all nuclear weapons have radioactive yield.

01:24:42.000 That's intentional.

01:24:43.000 So some of them actually don't.

01:24:44.000 Some of them are just concussive shockwaves or explosive.

01:24:47.000 But yeah, I mean, you know, what are your thoughts?

01:24:49.000 Where do you think this goes?

01:24:51.000 And what would you do?

01:24:52.000 See, all I would say to that is what's to deter Russia from using nuclear weapons? 0.52

01:24:57.000 To keep... that they want to keep their country intact and they want to keep Ukraine intact.

01:25:01.000 But do you really think that Russia fears the U.S.?

01:25:03.000 Does Russia fear NATO?

01:25:04.000 Does Russia fear anyone right now?

01:25:06.000 I mean, we right now, we were, you know, under Donald Trump and even Trump came out and said this.

01:25:11.000 Russia didn't act this way.

01:25:12.000 Putin didn't act this way when Trump was in office because Trump was a respected leader, whether or not the left wants to say that or not.

01:25:18.000 Like, he was, you know, off the cuff.

01:25:20.000 No one ever knew what was going to happen with him.

01:25:22.000 Look what happened with Soleimani and Iran.

01:25:25.000 When they messed with America.

01:25:26.000 Donald Trump, you know, brought down the hammer.

01:25:29.000 Look at Russia right now. 0.84

01:25:30.000 They're not fearful of anything.

01:25:31.000 They're not fearful of retaliation because we're not a superpower anymore.

01:25:36.000 I really, you know, would venture to say that.

01:25:37.000 And again, with the whole NATO situation, I'm not a geopolitical expert.

01:25:41.000 So, you know, inform me on this point, but like, what is really to stop Russia from doing this?

01:25:45.000 Well, the U.S.

01:25:45.000 is a superpower.

01:25:46.000 We're not the anymore, per se.

01:25:49.000 That's the issue, is that Thucydides' trap looms, and there's a conspiracy theory that Western powers for the past 20 years have known Thucydides' trap is a real possibility, and as we've already shown all of you, the liberal world order exists.

01:26:05.000 The Council on Foreign Relations explains this, and they say there will be a new world order.

01:26:09.000 One of the theories is that The powerful elites of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, etc.

01:26:16.000 I mean, these are organizations that outright just say they're doing these things.

01:26:19.000 You can call it a conspiracy.

01:26:20.000 I don't know.

01:26:20.000 Whatever.

01:26:20.000 Maybe they're lying.

01:26:21.000 But CFR is NewsGuard certified.

01:26:23.000 They say there's a liberal world order.

01:26:25.000 Now, these people have to be aware of Thucydides' trap, that U.S. 0.91

01:26:29.000 is a large economic power, the largest, and China is growing as an economic power, and that means World War III is likely.

01:26:36.000 If your intention is to prevent World War III, then you need to stop Thucydides' trap from happening.

01:26:41.000 Well, you can't stop China from growing, so what do you do? 0.99

01:26:44.000 You cut off the tall grass in the U.S.

01:26:46.000 You cripple the United States so that they fall as fast as China rises, and thus you avoid a war. 0.90

01:26:52.000 I'm not saying that's true, but I'm saying it's certainly, you know, one theory about the policies enacted by the Biden administration and the Obama administration that have seemingly hurt the United States, and not even them.

01:27:01.000 I mean, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton as well.

01:27:04.000 Well, I don't even believe the narrative that the nuclear war is going to happen.

01:27:08.000 I think it's always possible, right?

01:27:11.000 Everything's possible.

01:27:12.000 Ian might give me a million dollars.

01:27:13.000 Possibly.

01:27:14.000 It is possible.

01:27:15.000 We never actually know.

01:27:17.000 But ultimately speaking, I think this is to stoke the fear with this idea.

01:27:20.000 If there was going to be a real nuclear attack, I don't think the media would actually be discussing this.

01:27:23.000 I think we'd be in preparation mode and something would be announced with a genuine understanding.

01:27:29.000 This is like, uh, like how they did with Russia, how they go, they're going to invade on this day.

01:27:34.000 Like this is what's going to happen.

01:27:35.000 And no one heard about this until Russia was going to invade.

01:27:38.000 Now, of course I joked about it that week.

01:27:39.000 I go, that was the zero day war because they kept getting it wrong. 0.85

01:27:42.000 And if you leave it up to the Biden administration to literally be stupid enough to like announce the exact day that he knows he's going to invade, as if, you know, he's going to, Putin's going to be like, okay, I'll go ahead and keep to the date. 0.91

01:27:51.000 So we don't change our dinner plans. 0.96

01:27:53.000 But, you know, he ended up invading.

01:27:55.000 He ended up going inside and going, you know, first the peacekeeping mission and then moving forward.

01:28:00.000 But ultimately, everything I hear is about creating hatred, not just for Russia, but for Russians.

01:28:07.000 And the hatred for Russians is why I don't believe the nuclear side.

01:28:10.000 Because anything they can use to get people to distance themselves and recreate an iron curtain, an iron wall between that nation Seems to be at hand.

01:28:18.000 And there's one thing I know.

01:28:18.000 Not everyone cares about anything, but everybody knows nuclear war.

01:28:22.000 Especially boomers and people who grew up, you know, and had to do the drills underneath their desks.

01:28:25.000 They're aware of this.

01:28:26.000 They've been around the bush here.

01:28:29.000 And they don't want that.

01:28:29.000 And nobody wants that.

01:28:30.000 And that's why I think they start to say, like, small nuclear warheads.

01:28:34.000 Because the chances of Russia, like, they know it's ludicrous letting off these, you know, megaton warheads.

01:28:40.000 This is not going to happen.

01:28:41.000 So they have to shrink The threat.

01:28:42.000 This is the first time I've ever heard in history, and I might be wrong, where we're talking about, you know, oh, micro warheads. 0.96

01:28:47.000 And we're back to micro penises and micro warheads. 0.91

01:28:50.000 Everything's shrinking back in fashion. 0.98

01:28:51.000 We've been talking about this for a few weeks.

01:28:52.000 No, no, that's not what I meant.

01:28:53.000 I meant, like, not this story today.

01:28:56.000 I've heard this argument.

01:28:57.000 I meant, now, it's like, where they have to kind of change the threat from something that we've never had this global discussion on micro warheads to, like, this might happen.

01:29:05.000 And I always feel like with the ghost of Kiev, Snake Island, the video that came out today that you mentioned on Twitter, It's been nothing but propaganda to the point that I just put pictures up from my trip in Ukraine and people needed to debunk them.

01:29:18.000 Like, I'm sitting here right now.

01:29:19.000 Fast flight.

01:29:21.000 But the nuclear war angle is actually preventing NATO from intervening.

01:29:24.000 But I don't think so though, because I think that Putin is pretty, if you watch what his speeches are, not that I would believe everything he says, he's kind of upfront about what he wants.

01:29:33.000 And I think the issue, even if you go back to Noam Chomsky trying to explain what's been happening inside of Ukraine, he's not okay with it being militarized.

01:29:41.000 He does not want it armed.

01:29:42.000 He wants a neutral position between NATO and Russia.

01:29:44.000 He knows these are two different worlds.

01:29:46.000 Could Putin do anything?

01:29:47.000 Anyone could.

01:29:49.000 Because we own a different idea for our society, for our life.

01:29:51.000 It's a whole new movement.

01:29:52.000 He cares about... Why does he want Ukraine to be neutral?

01:29:56.000 Because that's right at his border.

01:29:58.000 So is Estonia and Latvia.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, but I think Ukraine actually has... I believe they're more corrupted in terms of with our own regime and government.

01:30:04.000 I think it's a puppet arm of the United States.

01:30:06.000 But Estonia and Latvia are NATO members.

01:30:09.000 Yes, but I'm saying I think Ukraine specifically, like as we're seeing now, I don't know if we're going to donate, like with Georgia, I don't think we're going to, I don't know if we're going to really donate arms and really fight as hard as you would think, but Ukraine sits as a middle puppet that we control, that we don't control, but it's still for money laundering, it's a US proxy. 0.63

01:30:25.000 It is, in my opinion, nothing to do with neutrality.

01:30:28.000 Vladimir Putin wants access to their only warm water port in Crimea, and if Ukraine goes EU, they cut Russia off.

01:30:34.000 So, Russia moves in through the east, they go into the country, they're effectively trying to bifurcate from the north and the south. 0.84

01:30:42.000 Ultimately, I don't know where Putin goes with this.

01:30:44.000 Neutrality is, I believe, part of his goal.

01:30:47.000 I think it has a lot to do with him wanting to maximize energy sales into Europe, which is what essentially helps fund the Russian economy.

01:30:55.000 But I think Crimea, there's a reason he took it instantly. 0.98

01:30:59.000 Russia has one warm water port in the Black Sea.

01:31:02.000 One warm water port.

01:31:03.000 It's in the Black Sea.

01:31:03.000 It's Crimea.

01:31:04.000 And they need more than just, you know, going south through Crimea.

01:31:07.000 They need the land bridge to the north.

01:31:10.000 That I think is why Putin is doing it.

01:31:12.000 He doesn't care about Estonia and Latvia.

01:31:14.000 Sure.

01:31:14.000 Because he doesn't have anything there.

01:31:16.000 He has Kaliningrad.

01:31:17.000 He has access to the Baltic Sea already.

01:31:18.000 So he doesn't care about these other states.

01:31:20.000 I mean, it's an onion.

01:31:21.000 I think it's multifaceted.

01:31:23.000 And I think if you've seen this, all we've heard about Ukraine in the last few years has been American corruption, money laundering, elitist families, and even Trump.

01:31:30.000 You saw that, I mean, back that old clip where he's literally sitting with Zelensky saying this is a very corrupt country that deals with massive layers of corruption, meaning we've known this is a problem state, and Putin's been aware of this too.

01:31:41.000 I'm just saying when Noam Chomsky and me are agreeing that something's very wrong in the

01:31:45.000 world in general, saying and warning just in 2018, hey, the media has been deceiving

01:31:51.000 the Ukrainian people, Western media, into thinking they can be a Western nation.

01:31:54.000 But it has been understood with Gorbachev on that any sort of push to move Western in

01:32:00.000 Ukraine would end in a bloody war and would end in some sort of, you know, aggression

01:32:04.000 from the Russian government, no matter what leader was in power.

01:32:07.000 He was saying they're not going to accept that and they're going to invade.

01:32:10.000 So I'm just saying that, you know, they've been duped just like we're standing with Ukraine.

01:32:13.000 I think the Ukrainians don't realize the proxy that they have and the importance of that position.

01:32:17.000 I believe the West pushed this invasion to be necessary.

01:32:21.000 I don't think if we had pulled out, not installed our own regime, not created a revolution through social media, I don't think this would have happened now.

01:32:29.000 But I do believe that because of the inability for the West and the East To somehow leave some country alone.

01:32:35.000 We can't leave anybody alone!

01:32:37.000 This was gonna happen eventually.

01:32:38.000 You wanna know, there's a simple reason why Ukrainians favor the EU and you know what it is?

01:32:42.000 What?

01:32:42.000 Holodomor.

01:32:44.000 Yeah.

01:32:45.000 That's really the biggest.

01:32:46.000 It's a really horrifying story.

01:32:48.000 Yeah, so Russia wants to expand its power.

01:32:51.000 They want the Russian Trade Federation.

01:32:52.000 The EU obviously wants to expand, wants the breadbasket of Europe.

01:32:56.000 When I went to Ukraine and talked to a lot of people, they all said, we have the opportunity to either join with Russia and have this trade federation, which would benefit us greatly, or the EU, which would be very similar.

01:33:06.000 And then a lot of people were like, we don't trust Russia because they genocided our people.

01:33:11.000 Yeah, the Holdom War, a man-made famine, a man-made famine convulsed the Soviet Republic of Ukraine from 1932 to 1933.

01:33:18.000 How many people died?

01:33:19.000 How many people starved to death?

01:33:20.000 There were like tens of millions.

01:33:22.000 So many.

01:33:22.000 Yeah, because the Soviets had disdain for the Ukrainians as a people and wanted to... Man-made famine.

01:33:31.000 But then in World War II, technically still, they gave a lot of their own life to their troops to defend Kiev.

01:33:35.000 3.9 million.

01:33:36.000 I mean, or to like sort of to fight in Ukraine.

01:33:38.000 The Soviets? 0.80

01:33:39.000 wasn't there quite a bit of truth. The Soviets executed all the intellectuals in Eastern

01:33:43.000 Europe, took over, the communists were just like a malignancy of evil.

01:33:49.000 Yeah, but Russian history goes way before the Soviets. I'm just saying like that's obviously 0.92

01:33:52.000 a period, but I'm not defending the Soviet time, but I'm saying this idea of a Russian

01:33:56.000 Federation of the Russian people. I do believe there is some shared understanding and value.

01:34:00.000 I mean, it's not too long ago with...

01:34:02.000 I'm not talking about my opinion on Russia.

01:34:04.000 I'm saying the Ukrainians I spoke with said, we don't trust the Russians.

01:34:07.000 We know it happened 20 years ago.

01:34:09.000 I mean, what year was the holiday?

01:34:10.000 32, 33.

01:34:10.000 Between 31 and 34.

01:34:10.000 And then you had just the Soviet Union going until only 20 or 30 years ago.

01:34:12.000 Between 31 and 34.

01:34:14.000 And then you had just the Soviet Union going until, you know, only 20 or 30 years ago.

01:34:20.000 So these people are like, nah, not interested.

01:34:22.000 You know, they're like, we'll take the capitalists in Europe for all their faults.

01:34:26.000 So yeah, but I've said, I think the media brainwashed them into thinking that could happen.

01:34:30.000 Like, that's my whole point is that I, like our media, you know, tells us things that are absolutely false, that there was, you know, we were safe in Afghanistan, that it was going to be a smooth pullout and it wasn't a smooth pullout.

01:34:40.000 It was literally like a, you know, end of prom night, sloppy pullout.

01:34:43.000 It was a surrender, a literal military surrender.

01:34:45.000 Right.

01:34:46.000 And they said it wasn't like Vietnam, but it was. 0.99

01:34:47.000 I'm saying I do believe that our media, that the influence by NATO in the West has tricked

01:34:52.000 them into thinking that they could be a part of the West without a war.

01:34:55.000 And I'm not blaming them.

01:34:56.000 Do whatever the hell you want with your own country.

01:34:57.000 You don't like the Russians?

01:34:58.000 Fine.

01:34:59.000 But just so you know, if you want this, you're going to have the situation on your hand with

01:35:03.000 10 million refugees.

01:35:04.000 And that's, I'm not blaming the people for getting duped.

01:35:06.000 I'm saying, I believe that this was, if this continued the way it did, as we're seeing, it was going to be unavoidable because Russia wasn't going to put up with it.

01:35:13.000 Even if it's for whatever reason you said, or things that we don't know, because I'm not an expert, despite the joke that I'm an Eastern European war expert, because everyone is now.

01:35:21.000 Right.

01:35:21.000 I put a Russia and a Ukraine flag in my bio, so now I know I'm an expert.

01:35:25.000 Solidarity.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:27.000 I'm just going to say, I think we'll find out the real point of this as time goes on. 0.93

01:35:30.000 And if he's going to push forward, no crap. 0.82

01:35:34.000 I mean, I'm not gonna accept that. 0.81

01:35:35.000 I wouldn't accept Russia pushing further into Europe, and I don't think any European country should, and I hope we don't ever get there. 0.73

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01:36:00.000 Make 1984 fiction against us, Elijah.

01:36:02.000 You cannot claim to be against authoritarianism and grow an undeniable symbol of authority under your nose like that.

01:36:08.000 Oh, thank you.

01:36:10.000 I'm not fully against authoritarianism.

01:36:13.000 And I thought the mustache was gorgeous.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, Mustache March is going to go into Mustache May.

01:36:20.000 It's not the worst.

01:36:20.000 When you think of liberty and authority, how do you balance those out on the variance scale, percentage-wise?

01:36:25.000 If you start seeing the mustache shrinking towards the middle, you should get worried.

01:36:28.000 Are you okay with 23% authority, 77% liberty?

01:36:32.000 If I start having an obsession with the Roman salute and stuff, call me.

01:36:37.000 I'll do.

01:36:40.000 Alright, let's see.

01:36:40.000 Hemrod says, Tim, regarding my Dan Crenshaw chat yesterday, an audio came out of Dan saying he's not Establishment, but YouTubers are.

01:36:49.000 Also, thanks for having Elijah on.

01:36:51.000 Did you hear about that?

01:36:52.000 Dan Crenshaw saying YouTubers were Establishment or something?

01:36:54.000 I heard that.

01:36:56.000 He said that influencers, conservative influencers, were grifters.

01:37:00.000 Dan Crenshaw!

01:37:01.000 Did he actually say grifter?

01:37:02.000 I don't know if he said grifter, but that's essentially what he was saying.

01:37:06.000 How do you really feel about Dan Crenshaw, Sav?

01:37:08.000 We love Dan Crenshaw.

01:37:09.000 We absolutely love him.

01:37:11.000 Actually, we don't have a Barbie doll in memory of Dan Crenshaw.

01:37:15.000 We have Madison Cawthorne, though. 0.99

01:37:17.000 Yeah, we do.

01:37:17.000 We have a Madison Cawthorne Barbie.

01:37:18.000 Yeah, we do.

01:37:20.000 All right.

01:37:23.000 Friedrich Borman says, Tim, would you be interested in speaking with the most prominent Russian libertarian Mikhail Svetov?

01:37:30.000 You can reach him on Twitter at msvetov.

01:37:34.000 He is a former chairman of Russian Libertarian Party and organized one of the biggest protests in Russian history.

01:37:39.000 Interesting.

01:37:39.000 We'll take a look.

01:37:40.000 We'll look into him.

01:37:41.000 Yep.

01:37:43.000 Tomahawk says, read your comments about Star Trek vs. Wars.

01:37:47.000 The politics in the prequels is actually pretty interesting.

01:37:50.000 Alex Jones did a video on it where he talks about the conspiracy the elites employed to start a civil war and gain power.

01:37:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:37:56.000 I do like that, the prequel politics, although I don't think the movies were particularly well made.

01:38:02.000 I just think Star Trek has a large swath of really great philosophical, moral, and ethical content.

01:38:07.000 It's very interesting.

01:38:09.000 Good stuff.

01:38:10.000 Eric Cecil says Reddit got two battalions of the Ukrainian Foreign Legion killed by sharing their location via metadata on their posts.

01:38:17.000 I don't think a lot of people are thinking about this decision because of media lionization, but I hope they get a lot of upvotes.

01:38:23.000 So yeah, that was one of the stories we didn't get to.

01:38:26.000 It's a viral post on Reddit.

01:38:28.000 where people were celebrating like, hey, we're here with, you know, we're volunteering for Ukraine.

01:38:33.000 We're a bunch of untrained random people who came here.

01:38:36.000 And the Russians, who are sophisticated military experts, said, we can easily identify where this building is.

01:38:41.000 And then they blew it up.

01:38:43.000 That's the problem with what social media people trying to go to Ukraine for clout and get clicks on a photo.

01:38:48.000 I'm getting nervous now.

01:38:49.000 Like three days before you were leaving, you kept putting up pictures in the studio, slightly offensive studio.

01:38:54.000 Yeah, like geotags and I'm like, hey, I'm here.

01:38:58.000 Here's my exact observation.

01:38:59.000 He stands with Ukraine.

01:39:00.000 He stands with Ukraine.

01:39:01.000 It was very weird.

01:39:02.000 Now we know why.

01:39:04.000 I'm CIA, says Tim.

01:39:05.000 Have you seen who's the new president of Earth in Star Trek Discovery?

01:39:08.000 I think you'll agree she's out of this world.

01:39:10.000 Is that Stacey Abrams?

01:39:11.000 Yeah.

01:39:12.000 Star Trek Discovery isn't Star Trek.

01:39:13.000 It's fan fiction.

01:39:14.000 The first president to also have their own gravitational pull.

01:39:17.000 Oh yeah.

01:39:18.000 They orbit planets and moons orbit them.

01:39:20.000 Correct.

01:39:21.000 Stacey Abrams.

01:39:23.000 Ross says, Tim, I feel your view about no shadowy cabal to control everything is naive.

01:39:27.000 Biden is doing the bidding of his masters in the Federal Reserve, privately and foreign investors owned.

01:39:32.000 They funded Lenin.

01:39:33.000 This is business as usual.

01:39:34.000 So what I was saying, when Biden said, you know, we created a liberal world order and then every three to four generations, there's like a, you know, a big event and 60 million people died.

01:39:43.000 And then he was like, there will be a new world order.

01:39:46.000 It's funny because he's like referencing the fourth turning.

01:39:48.000 So my point was, What happens at the World Economic Forum, I think people assume there's like a big grand table where they all sit around and Joe Biden's like, all right, masters, tell me what to do.

01:39:59.000 That's not what happens.

01:40:01.000 These people have meetings, they have shared goals.

01:40:06.000 The problem with a lot of people's view of these things, that there's like an organization to it, is that That actually, in my opinion, gives them more credit than they deserve, and it actually is less scary.

01:40:16.000 The scarier thing is that there is a sphere of influence of powerful elites who get together, and they pull people in, and some people pop out, but this sphere, this hive, this swarm exists.

01:40:28.000 That's when you guys were talking about superpowers earlier.

01:40:30.000 And who is it?

01:40:30.000 Is it China or the US?

01:40:31.000 But I think it's like the SWIFT payment system and the Bank of International Settlements.

01:40:36.000 The Federal Reserve sold us out, man.

01:40:38.000 And that thing, if it wants to shut your country off from your economy, that's one of the greatest powers you have on Earth.

01:40:44.000 So it's essentially, a rich person can enter the sphere of influence, and it's not like anyone tells them what to do, you know, Bezos or Bill Gates, certainly people came before them, right?

01:40:54.000 It's that you reach this level, and then you get invited to these meetings where you sit down, and they say, what do you think?

01:40:59.000 You've got this big company, and then everyone talks, and ultimately they all align themselves cooperatively, not authoritatively, you know what I mean?

01:41:07.000 Isn't it kind of crazy how Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey and a bunch of these billionaires were meeting together talking about depopulation?

01:41:13.000 That was a Wall Street Journal article.

01:41:15.000 You can look that up back in 2015, I believe.

01:41:18.000 They all got together.

01:41:19.000 They were talking about depopulation efforts.

01:41:21.000 That's the point.

01:41:22.000 There's no boss of that.

01:41:23.000 I think they were talking about slowing the population growth.

01:41:26.000 It's different than actually depopulating.

01:41:27.000 Gotcha, gotcha.

01:41:28.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

01:41:28.000 I will say this, though.

01:41:29.000 True Wealth is receiving a gift from Ian.

01:41:32.000 This thing's heavy, too.

01:41:33.000 I'm gonna request a roll from both of you.

01:41:36.000 You're holding up the 100-sided die.

01:41:37.000 How do you even roll this?

01:41:38.000 Very slowly, or it's just gonna keep rolling.

01:41:40.000 Every time I'm here, I see something that I didn't know existed.

01:41:43.000 There it goes.

01:41:45.000 Into the gems.

01:41:46.000 Alright, what is it?

01:41:47.000 What do the gems do, Ian?

01:41:48.000 They vibrate.

01:41:49.000 The top number is 81.

01:41:49.000 Oh, very nice.

01:41:51.000 Interesting.

01:41:51.000 Nice roll.

01:41:52.000 That's a great roll.

01:41:53.000 I feel like they're like dragon stones.

01:41:54.000 I'm gonna grab that later.

01:41:55.000 I know they're heavy.

01:41:56.000 I love them.

01:41:57.000 They're awesome.

01:41:58.000 Alright, let's read these superchats.

01:42:00.000 We got two superchats I'm gonna read, and you'll like them both.

01:42:04.000 Porkins Holt says, Tim is 100% right.

01:42:07.000 Elijah forgot how to fight.

01:42:10.000 Oh.

01:42:10.000 Robert Delvic Silverson says, Elijah is right.

01:42:14.000 Everybody who needs the slim chance of making a life do not dare question the branch they are standing on.

01:42:18.000 So the second guy was right.

01:42:20.000 Good job, man.

01:42:22.000 I'll give you another one.

01:42:23.000 Ryan Noel says, 100% with Elijah.

01:42:25.000 Your arrogance, Tim, is causing you to lack any empathy for these girls.

01:42:29.000 You have to remember these women are young. 1.00

01:42:30.000 They don't have the life experience.

01:42:32.000 Thank you, Elijah.

01:42:33.000 Well put.

01:42:34.000 Well, I blame their parents.

01:42:35.000 I was going to say, Tim, one thing that we share in common Is that people tell us that we don't shut up.

01:42:40.000 We don't let our guests talk and we're arrogant.

01:42:42.000 So I'm glad to know that we have the same haters, but they're probably the same commenters.

01:42:45.000 Like they're at your show.

01:42:45.000 They're like buying a comment on Tim Kool and copy.

01:42:48.000 And they just changed Tim with Elijah.

01:42:51.000 You know, the issue with the parents on this one is that they're all in college.

01:42:53.000 These kids, these grown adult women are in college at this point. 1.00

01:42:57.000 So their parents aren't involved anymore.

01:42:58.000 This is the craziest thing to me.

01:43:00.000 It's like, how old are they?

01:43:01.000 They're adults.

01:43:02.000 They're in their twenties.

01:43:03.000 Stu, but think about your mentality when you were 18 to 22. 1.00

01:43:06.000 I was an idiot. 1.00

01:43:07.000 Yeah, I didn't know much at all. 1.00

01:43:09.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:43:10.000 It's like when you're 18 to 22, you're just taking drugs, drinking, going to raves.

01:43:14.000 I blame the parents.

01:43:15.000 That was you, I guess.

01:43:16.000 Not me.

01:43:18.000 I was 23 when I started smoking pot. 0.98

01:43:20.000 Steph, you spoke to the college students about the penises and the periods. 0.99

01:43:25.000 I watched you. 0.88

01:43:26.000 What did they say?

01:43:27.000 Because I could not believe what I was listening to.

01:43:29.000 This is who's in college now? 0.75

01:43:31.000 No, I mean, I said the quote earlier that what men can get periods, they can get pregnant, women have penises, they were saying, and I asked them, I was like, so have you seen Leah Thomas stand next to, you know, her female athletes and competitors? 0.54

01:43:43.000 And they're like, no, no, we can't see a biological difference. 0.76

01:43:46.000 They look exactly the same.

01:43:47.000 I think it's very stark, but you know, that's because it was a man that transitioned into a woman and, you know, It's just your opinion, Ian.

01:43:54.000 It's not the fact that, you know, Lea Thomas has broad shoulders and is six feet tall. 0.98

01:43:58.000 That's one broad female. 1.00

01:44:01.000 If you have one faction that is willing to burn down cities and the other faction is like, Tim, don't get mad at people who won't stand up for themselves.

01:44:09.000 Like, I'm not surprised.

01:44:11.000 Yeah, we are kind of in a war.

01:44:12.000 You're right.

01:44:12.000 When the Democrats accuse Brett Kavanaugh of being party to gang rape on more than one occasion, and the best the right can muster up is Josh Hawley saying, I have concerns about your lenient sentences.

01:44:23.000 And he actually went on to say, I do believe Judge Katonji Brown-Jackson will have a coherent and thoughtful response.

01:44:29.000 I believe she'll be able to well explain this, so I appreciate it.

01:44:32.000 How did you say her first name?

01:44:34.000 Katonji.

01:44:34.000 That's how we've been saying it, I don't know.

01:44:36.000 But the point is, I tweeted this. 0.94

01:44:39.000 If the Republicans were as arrogant, or I said as ruthless, and had the callousness and ruthlessness of the Democrats, they'd be calling Keitanji Brown a pedophile. 0.96

01:44:47.000 But the Republicans are extremely weak, at least relative to Democrats.

01:44:51.000 Now you can say principled, in a sense, that they don't want to, you know, besmirch the decorum of the chamber, and they're trying to be fair and reasonable, but this is my point.

01:45:01.000 Um, when you have, you know, I'm not asking these young girls to throw away their careers, but I'm asking to take a small risk, right?

01:45:10.000 So some people have said, okay, Tim, but you support YouTube, you're using the platform, you know, they censor people.

01:45:15.000 And I'm like, yeah, and we've had Steve Bannon on what, three times, four times, Alex Jones on four times.

01:45:20.000 We regularly, you know, do everything we can to, you know, these are people who are censored.

01:45:25.000 We've brought them back to the platform.

01:45:27.000 And we'll keep doing things like that.

01:45:28.000 And then we set up TimCast.com where we can carry out other conversations.

01:45:32.000 And then we advocate for things like Rumble.

01:45:34.000 So we're absolutely speaking up and trying to push back while being a part of this.

01:45:40.000 If these young women at the swim meets were like, hey, we all kind of have an issue with this. 0.99

01:45:44.000 We're going to swim.

01:45:45.000 I'd be like, right on. I respect that. My issue is the only person to speak up is the one who got

01:45:51.000 bumped. Like not even the person right above her is like, yeah, that's not cool. She got bumped.

01:45:55.000 She won't even say anything. Well, she had an NDA or something. That was my question to you.

01:45:59.000 Is that I'm wondering if while they're in the competition, it would be interesting to find

01:46:03.000 out if there's certain rules on like, you know, not making political statements and or something

01:46:08.000 What they were told is that they had to be silent about Leo Thomas because it was such a controversial issue, which is why none of them spoke out except for Rose Pouch, who is the athlete that I interviewed.

01:46:19.000 Because I've been involved in an organization before when I was in high school and it was like a student leadership type thing.

01:46:24.000 Now, of course, was a very far left.

01:46:26.000 progressive California group, but it was very keen on not like making political

01:46:30.000 statements. And I find this ironic with Turning Point, like we're nonprofit, we

01:46:33.000 can't make political statements. Like I get what you're saying, but you're a

01:46:35.000 political group. But I know some people... That's true though. I know, I'm saying that's a

01:46:40.000 little different, but I'm wondering if they're just thinking like, hey yeah, like

01:46:44.000 Leah Thomas can't make a political statement, I can't...

01:46:47.000 Even though Leah Thomas is a political statement, like the existence is a political statement.

01:46:52.000 I think, and you would even argue, yeah, them swimming as a political statement that they agree because they're not quitting.

01:46:56.000 Maybe they just don't understand what a political statement is and they don't realize that it's gonna take one to speak to open up the floodgate.

01:47:01.000 Or I'm wrong and they all agree and they're brainwashed like the rest of America. 0.99

01:47:05.000 Which sucks. 1.00

01:47:07.000 All right. 0.98

01:47:07.000 Here's one other one. 0.98

01:47:08.000 Pork and Salt says, Tim is right.

01:47:09.000 Y'all are short-sighted and our kids will suffer when we die.

01:47:12.000 Imagine the founders if they didn't fight because they'd lose it all.

01:47:16.000 Excuses.

01:47:18.000 It's a good debate.

01:47:19.000 I will be honest. 0.76

01:47:21.000 I might be wrong with this, but in the revolution, didn't like 1% or less, and I might sound like a total idiot right now, like actually fight in the war of the population?

01:47:31.000 Maybe it was more than that.

01:47:33.000 We don't actually know.

01:47:34.000 Some say it's 3%.

01:47:35.000 Right, so what I was saying is that my point wasn't that we don't need fighters, it's sad that we're at a point where we expect not only everyone to fight, but like women too, where like I wish the fight against this was with male administrators that were fighting for what's going on at the university, and dads, and parents, not like these girls who are like, hey you better not swim!

01:47:52.000 It's like, it's gotten this far? 0.58

01:47:54.000 You're like, that sucks. 0.98

01:47:56.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:47:57.000 All right, so we got this from Xenthias, who says, if I stood up for what I believed, I would never work a day 0.88

01:48:01.000 in my life.

01:48:01.000 And no way would I be able to provide for my fiance's immigration into the USA.

01:48:05.000 My response to that is, you care more about your fiance's immigration

01:48:11.000 than you do the values of the United States.

01:48:14.000 If that statement offends you, that says more about your own values than mine.

01:48:19.000 Because typically when I tell people this, they get really mad.

01:48:22.000 So someone, I've told this before, who said, I really want to do what you do.

01:48:26.000 I want to travel the world and do journalism.

01:48:28.000 And then I said, well, then go do it.

01:48:30.000 The response to me was, I can't afford it.

01:48:32.000 And I was like, you have a Williamsburg apartment for like several thousand dollars a month.

01:48:37.000 Get rid of the apartment, sleep on couches, and you can do it.

01:48:40.000 And they said, but I like my apartment.

01:48:42.000 And I'm like, then you like your apartment more than traveling the world and reporting on news.

01:48:48.000 And they got really mad.

01:48:49.000 And they're like, that's not true.

01:48:51.000 I should have a right to live in a nice apartment and travel.

01:48:53.000 And I'm like, I don't care about what you think your rights are.

01:48:55.000 I'm pointing out you've got X amount of cash.

01:48:58.000 You can choose to do one of two things.

01:49:00.000 You've made your choice showing where your priorities lie.

01:49:03.000 So for Zentheist, I'm not issuing this as a moral statement or a value statement.

01:49:08.000 I'm saying you care more about your fiancé than you do about the USA.

01:49:13.000 And maybe that's fine.

01:49:14.000 I don't know.

01:49:15.000 Start poor and single, right, Sam?

01:49:16.000 It's a hard one to have, but it is true.

01:49:19.000 I mean, like I said, this is a war.

01:49:20.000 like whether or not we want to admit it, we are in a psychological war, if you will.

01:49:25.000 We have two separate factions of America.

01:49:27.000 So what Tim is saying is right, if people want to enact real change,

01:49:30.000 they're going to have to make big sacrifices.

01:49:32.000 And that means losing your job, you know, telling your fiance no for the next couple of years,

01:49:36.000 but that's the reality of it.

01:49:37.000 But there are softer ways.

01:49:38.000 And I do want to explain this.

01:49:39.000 Like I, when I got into this career, I didn't quit my job, my day job,

01:49:44.000 until a year into this when I knew I could support myself.

01:49:47.000 And I want to remind people, not on Patreon, that if you do have dreams or you do want to do stuff, sometimes we feel like we're left with two options, like Russia or Ukraine, rather than saying, well, I don't really stand with either.

01:49:57.000 I stand with the people of both, but not either.

01:50:00.000 Sometimes there is other options and there are other ways around things.

01:50:02.000 So I always say when you're stuck between this forced major of, hey, you gotta choose and your life's gonna get ruined if you don't do this, ask yourself if there is a way to ease into the values that you want to appeal to or that you wanna be, even if you're not ready now to lose your job.

01:50:17.000 Well, find out if you can protest more at work and start with something.

01:50:20.000 I'm saying start with something to move yourself in the direction so you don't live a hypocritical life.

01:50:24.000 If you're not willing to make that big of a jump, At least make a small step and start making a strategic plan to getting to a point to where maybe you start your own business now so that you can quit the job and that you finally will be able to make the jump.

01:50:36.000 And I don't think there's anything wrong with strategy.

01:50:38.000 There was a band in the 90s, and I was reading this story.

01:50:41.000 The lead singer ended up getting a job as a manager of a theater.

01:50:46.000 And this article was very disparaging.

01:50:49.000 Like, wow, he was this big famous musician and now what is he doing?

01:50:54.000 Manager at a theater.

01:50:55.000 And that's a scary story, the way that society treats you if you have this prominent position and you lose it.

01:51:00.000 So I remember when I was working for Fusion, I had an ABC News badge.

01:51:04.000 I was in the ABC News building.

01:51:06.000 I had access to go around.

01:51:09.000 Whoopi Goldberg's in the elevator.

01:51:10.000 I'd walk out, and there were people all, there were these gates and security guards, and no one could go anywhere near the doors, and they're always waiting, trying to get autographs, and I'm like, man, look where I am in this building.

01:51:19.000 One block from Central Park, There's all of these prominent ABC personalities.

01:51:25.000 I was getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

01:51:28.000 And then I was like, I can't do what they want me to do, and I don't want to be here.

01:51:32.000 Because they were like, our audience is young and progressive, and that's what we're going to do, and that's what we want you to do.

01:51:36.000 And so I told the president, we had a meeting, I think we were in Vegas at the time, and I was like, break my contract, I can't do this anymore.

01:51:42.000 And the scary thing to me was, I was like, if I break this contract for these reasons, I'm not going to work in New York media ever again.

01:51:50.000 It's done.

01:51:52.000 These people have already started claiming that I was racist because they were all woke and I refused to play their game.

01:51:57.000 They were talking smack about me because I'd appear on Fox News after a Trump supporter got hit in the back with a bag of rocks.

01:52:03.000 And I said, I'd rather be a theater manager than work in this industry.

01:52:08.000 And after I left Fusion, There was like five months of me literally doing nothing.

01:52:13.000 I didn't know what to do.

01:52:15.000 I'd wake up, and then I would do like some live streams here and there.

01:52:18.000 I'd wake up and play Destiny.

01:52:20.000 You know, the video game.

01:52:21.000 And then I thought to myself, as I pulled out of my savings, I was like, man...

01:52:25.000 I don't know what I can do.

01:52:27.000 I don't know where I'm supposed to go from here.

01:52:29.000 There's no me getting a job at any of these companies now.

01:52:32.000 They've all lost their minds and I don't want to work for them anyway.

01:52:35.000 I had meetings with Vox.

01:52:36.000 I had meetings with BuzzFeed.

01:52:38.000 And I was just like, this was before Fusion, and I was just like, there's no way I'm going to those companies after everything that happened at Fusion.

01:52:44.000 So what am I going to do?

01:52:45.000 And I was like, man, I might have to just leave New York, go back to the suburbs of Chicago and just work in consulting or something.

01:52:52.000 And then I was like, alright, well for the time being I'll start working as hard as I can.

01:52:55.000 But it was terrifying.

01:52:56.000 Yeah.

01:52:57.000 It was scary.

01:52:58.000 And for the first few months of doing YouTube, I was negative.

01:53:02.000 And it cost me a large portion of my savings.

01:53:05.000 And then I was like, but I'm gonna find a way to get through this.

01:53:08.000 It took me a year to get out of the red and into the black.

01:53:13.000 And then once I got into the black, I was down probably tens of thousands of dollars.

01:53:17.000 Tim and C, I'm so happy you're sharing this story because so many people in our society today, we live in such an instant gratification society.

01:53:23.000 They expect to get on YouTube, be famous immediately, make it.

01:53:27.000 They expect to go out on the streets, get that viral clip, get on Tucker Carlson right away.

01:53:30.000 And when it doesn't happen, they give up.

01:53:33.000 And that's the difference between winners and losers, is that everybody is going to fail at one point or another, but the winners continue to keep pushing forward until they reach their goal.

01:53:41.000 So I'm so glad you said that story because, you know, it really shows the reality of this industry of success as a whole.

01:53:46.000 It's hard to get there.

01:53:47.000 It doesn't happen overnight.

01:53:48.000 You will struggle.

01:53:49.000 You will have to sacrifice your own savings account financially, mentally, physically.

01:53:54.000 I've seen it from everybody in this industry.

01:53:56.000 People have to sacrifice so much.

01:53:57.000 But once they achieve their goals, everyone's looking at them now and is like, well, I want to do that, too.

01:54:02.000 Why can't I do it?

01:54:03.000 I met the guitarist from Death Cab for Cutie.

01:54:06.000 It's a band.

01:54:09.000 And I asked him what was the key to success.

01:54:11.000 He said, just keep playing music.

01:54:14.000 because so many people will, you know, you've got all these bands around you when you're young,

01:54:18.000 but one by one, they all quit, they give up.

01:54:20.000 And then eventually before you realize it, you're just the band that's left.

01:54:24.000 So people know who you are because everyone else stopped.

01:54:26.000 And if people want music, it's like, well, you've been around for a long time,

01:54:29.000 so people have heard of you, they come to your shows, and then before you realize it,

01:54:33.000 you're just the last remaining band from your generation or whatever, from your group.

01:54:38.000 It was like perseverance.

01:54:40.000 I want to say this to attest to your actual living out your belief there.

01:54:40.000 It does work.

01:54:45.000 Obviously you're making good money, working for Alex Jones, a legend, and then you wanted to go out and to report in order to do so.

01:54:52.000 You had to work for me.

01:54:55.000 I know.

01:54:56.000 So you went so many steps down to try to attain your goal.

01:55:01.000 And I got to say this, living off of $37 a week in a pack of Trident gum, you persisted, you continued, and now you're independent and the super uber famous journalist who's getting with Jordan Peterson and everybody.

01:55:13.000 And that just shows that you work really hard.

01:55:15.000 But on the real side, though, too, you know, I think that's awesome with the calculatedness.

01:55:20.000 And I know your eagerness to Tim on this, but I tell people like, Genuinely even now, this is why it's hard for me to comment, like there are compromises I've made to stay on YouTube or to stay on sites that I could be more honest or more truthful or say more that I have thought that the trade-off for having a stable income with my family is not worth it.

01:55:42.000 Like just so I can write now on this, you know, on this Live stream call Leah Thomas that the pronoun your live stream.

01:55:48.000 I'm not gonna risk your livelihood so that I can be right, right?

01:55:51.000 I'm not gonna do that.

01:55:52.000 That's difference your livelihood, but I'm also saying I understand that you got to be calculated because I Always talk about this too that I see with the young people.

01:56:01.000 This is why Isis goes after the young men Some people think that bravery is just charging the front lines in World War one.

01:56:07.000 There's no reason to be cannon fodder There's no reason to just sacrifice your life like where some people were it's to be actually calculated because I promise this to people The idea of, like, when I've spoken to people, it's like, well, if I don't get vaccinated, then I'm going to get fired.

01:56:22.000 And I go, you're looking at this wrong.

01:56:24.000 You're looking at this like you have two choices.

01:56:26.000 The reality is, is that, like, I even asked someone, did you think about moving states?

01:56:31.000 Did you think about moving from a for-profit to a non-profit hospital?

01:56:34.000 Did you think about moving to a religious institution where the exemptions could work in a religious hospital?

01:56:38.000 Have you thought about something like that where it won't work, but you could have a

01:56:41.000 religious argument here at this Catholic place?

01:56:43.000 And I've asked people, do you know you could change things?

01:56:46.000 And also, reminder that you could also, like sometimes you can actually work for a private

01:56:50.000 firm which is not medical, be a consultant, be a remote nurse doing Zoom calls and whatnot

01:56:55.000 or a Zoom doctor, and you can actually do these kinds of things.

01:56:58.000 So I just meant people calculate it.

01:57:01.000 You don't have to go from being a grifter or a martyr.

01:57:05.000 You don't have to just jump the gun.

01:57:06.000 There is a middle ground.

01:57:07.000 So we have TimCast.com, so everything you want to say we're going to say in three minutes when we switch to the TimCast website.

01:57:15.000 So I recognize we get a lot of free stuff from YouTube.

01:57:19.000 That's what people need to hear.

01:57:20.000 You get a lot of free stuff from YouTube.

01:57:22.000 They give us free advertising.

01:57:23.000 I've not paid for any marketing for this show.

01:57:27.000 All organic.

01:57:28.000 But that means YouTube's algorithm, or by choice for some reason, we've appeared and been suggested.

01:57:34.000 And then I can use that to be like, okay, everybody go to our website, become members, and then we're gonna have conversations that these bigger platforms don't want us to have.

01:57:42.000 That way the conversations still happen.

01:57:44.000 We have Steve Bannon on.

01:57:45.000 He can say everything he wants.

01:57:46.000 We have you guys here.

01:57:47.000 We're gonna go nuts in the members-only show.

01:57:49.000 And that's the platform we built.

01:57:51.000 And truth be told, we've been... It's way safer.

01:57:56.000 We're seeing now with what Dan Bongino is doing with Parallel Economy and Rumble, how they're building up alternates, and that's what needs to happen.

01:58:03.000 So, I had a super chat.

01:58:07.000 It's gone now.

01:58:08.000 No!

01:58:09.000 Because sometimes it jumps.

01:58:10.000 But the point somebody was making is that... It disappeared, but Tim's really, really, really cool.

01:58:15.000 He's the greatest human that ever existed.

01:58:16.000 I think it disappeared.

01:58:17.000 No, it was... We need to keep working on our own systems, make our own movies, make our own shows, set up our own websites.

01:58:25.000 If you're concerned about censorship, it doesn't mean abandon Twitter or YouTube.

01:58:29.000 It means use the other platforms, mine's for instance, and make your own website where they can't ban you from your own site.

01:58:36.000 Granted, Financial services and third parties can still come after

01:58:39.000 you But it's our building infrastructure

01:58:42.000 I'm building a website right now to try to like To try to keep myself there and every time you think you

01:58:48.000 figured out another potential loophole that they could take you down

01:58:50.000 It's come down to like okay. So starting with building your own server. Do you can't even get emails?

01:58:55.000 It's like, yeah, MailChimp, deleted.

01:58:57.000 Canceled.

01:58:57.000 Sorry.

01:58:58.000 Bad politics.

01:58:59.000 We're not going to give you your emails.

01:59:00.000 You're like, great, thank you.

01:59:01.000 You have to go email, server, internet provider, website hosting.

01:59:06.000 Like you go, who owns even the website domain?

01:59:10.000 And you're going through this, you're going, Wow.

01:59:12.000 The reason why we haven't won this yet is because we need a lot more smart people and a lot more money not going into nonprofits that are doing nothing, but into actually for profits and things that can hire people and make a change.

01:59:21.000 And we need to slow our thoughts down in general.

01:59:23.000 I think you were saying like the age of instant gratification and Elijah, you were talking about how important it is to be calculating.

01:59:29.000 And I think a lot of people when offered a choice A, B, they feel like they have to make the choice and you don't.

01:59:33.000 Not only do you not have to answer the way people expect you to, you don't have to answer and you can think about it.

01:59:37.000 You don't have to sign the contract when it's handed to you.

01:59:39.000 You can read it.

01:59:40.000 You can take as much time as you want because it's your contract.

01:59:42.000 Dude, people cap themselves so much and it's insane to me.

01:59:45.000 Like again, this goes back to our entire education system where we're taught to be subservient to authority.

01:59:50.000 People think there's only option A and B. People don't see They can do whatever they want with their life.

01:59:54.000 You can be Tim Pool if you want to, if you work hard enough.

01:59:57.000 You can do whatever you want in this life.

01:59:59.000 But people think it's like, well, if I'm going to be a doctor, I just have to be a doctor.

02:00:02.000 That's it.

02:00:03.000 I can't be good at anything else.

02:00:04.000 If I'm going to be on YouTube, I just have to be a YouTuber.

02:00:06.000 That's it.

02:00:06.000 Nothing else.

02:00:06.000 People cap themselves so much.

02:00:08.000 People should watch my old YouTube videos and just be like, man, that guy sucks. 0.99

02:00:12.000 Were they horrendous? 0.99

02:00:14.000 Yeah, really bad.

02:00:15.000 Dude, the first time I was on with Alex, I'm like embarrassed for people to pull it up one day because it was horrific.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, I was so nervous.

02:00:19.000 My hands were like this the whole time.

02:00:21.000 I'm like this.

02:00:23.000 That's where I'm at in my career.

02:00:24.000 Me too, dude.

02:00:25.000 He's like, it was horrible.

02:00:26.000 This is where I was like, this is my current state.

02:00:30.000 Let's read this one more super chat before we go to the members only.

02:00:32.000 We've got Brody Nevis who says, Hey, been a fan of yours and Crowder since 2016.

02:00:37.000 I'm 22 and I share your show and his to my family, but they still believe in the same stuff as the left and I want to leave CA.

02:00:44.000 What do I do to get out of here and convince my family the left is wrong?

02:00:48.000 If you can show your family that Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Jussie Smollett, The Covenant Kids, Russia Gate, Ahmaud Arbery, the list goes on, all of those stories were proven false, And they still believe it?

02:01:01.000 I think it's not an issue of... I think the issue is more so they know it's not true, but they don't want to admit it.

02:01:09.000 They're not smart enough to realize and they'll keep falling for it.

02:01:13.000 I think that's what you're dealing with.

02:01:15.000 And if that's the case, you're going to be on your own and you have to figure things out for yourself.

02:01:19.000 Yeah, you gotta impress them in the way that they speak the language of.

02:01:22.000 Like, when I talk to my mom, I'll be like, we're making world-changing social media technology.

02:01:26.000 And she'll be like, oh, that's great.

02:01:28.000 Are you making enough money, honey?

02:01:29.000 Like, she just cares that I'm making money because that's her world.

02:01:31.000 So if you want to impress those people, you need to entice them with their own language.

02:01:35.000 And if you don't want to do that, then don't.

02:01:35.000 It's annoying.

02:01:37.000 You walk away from it.

02:01:38.000 I think, you know, bet big, win big.

02:01:42.000 Play big, win big, as they say at casinos.

02:01:43.000 High risk, high reward.

02:01:44.000 High risk, high reward.

02:01:46.000 I lived in Chicago.

02:01:47.000 I had an apartment.

02:01:49.000 I took a ride share to California with $200 in cash, and that's how I moved to LA.

02:01:55.000 And that was it.

02:01:56.000 I was homeless.

02:01:57.000 Fortunately, a friend of mine had been out there and let me crash a couple days.

02:02:00.000 And then I was just prepared to go live on the beach, but I found a job almost right away.

02:02:04.000 And then I got lucky with this one.

02:02:06.000 Someone let me crash at their place.

02:02:09.000 I just, I feel like it's a question of what are you willing to sacrifice?

02:02:14.000 And the more you're willing to sacrifice, the bigger risk you're willing to take, the bigger rewards exist for you.

02:02:18.000 And for me, because I was like, honestly, don't care if I sleep outside, that gave me more freedom to find opportunities people wouldn't normally take.

02:02:25.000 And if your concern is you want a stable life and you need a stable life, you're going to have a harder time scouting out and finding opportunities.

02:02:33.000 But you'll be stable, you know, you'll be safe.

02:02:35.000 It's the image of stable, though.

02:02:37.000 The stability is not really that real.

02:02:38.000 There is no stability.

02:02:41.000 And this is not the, you know, whatever ego moment in real life.

02:02:45.000 But I mean this genuinely.

02:02:46.000 There's a reason why it is easier if you are not married and you don't have children to take certain risks.

02:02:52.000 Genuinely, I'm encouraging that.

02:02:53.000 There's a reason why you don't see a lot of stable married people even in this industry specifically.

02:02:57.000 And whatever you want to do to change the world, it may not be even that possible.

02:03:01.000 Meaning I find that a lot of people that I've met who do this, for instance,

02:03:05.000 had a homeless sort of pseudo homeless time of their life where they had to risk

02:03:09.000 a lot to get where they are. I mean, I lived on the YouTuber Fleckas couch.

02:03:13.000 He supported me financially in the beginning.

02:03:15.000 I didn't make any money until I could monetize my channel and get it up.

02:03:17.000 He was, he came through. I mean, that guy was probably like literally just the most clutch

02:03:21.000 person I've ever seen.

02:03:22.000 He was like, Hey, I know what this takes, bro.

02:03:24.000 Let's go ahead and do it.

02:03:25.000 But for someone who left, who left California myself, I encourage you to do a few things.

02:03:28.000 Number one, like go to, go to, go to my channel.

02:03:31.000 Slightly offensive.

02:03:32.000 Look up like, uh, the homeless people of LA.

02:03:34.000 Look up why I left California.

02:03:36.000 Then go to the videos that are suggested after it.

02:03:39.000 You will see the stories.

02:03:40.000 And I'm, I have a video with like with Fleckas where we both, I mean, I'm born and raised in California.

02:03:44.000 We literally talk.

02:03:45.000 We are going to go to the members only segment, so if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do like it.

02:03:50.000 in a funny way just to say, hey, A, B, C and D, as you stay here and give tax dollars,

02:03:55.000 you support this.

02:03:56.000 And if you don't, then get out.

02:03:57.000 And that's what a lot of us did.

02:03:58.000 We are going to go to the members only segment.

02:04:00.000 So if you haven't already smashed that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the

02:04:03.000 show if you really do like it.

02:04:05.000 That's the most powerful thing you can do.

02:04:06.000 Go to Timcast.com.

02:04:07.000 We're gonna have up at about 11 p.m.

02:04:09.000 The members only show which is gonna get very spicy I can already I can already tell and you can follow the show at Timcast IRL basically everywhere except TikTok where we're banned You can follow me at Timcast basically everywhere.

02:04:20.000 Elijah, you want to shout anything out?

02:04:22.000 Yeah, you know, obviously, if you're wanting to watch a podcast that is pure insanity, go to youtube.com slash slightlyoffensive.

02:04:29.000 It has been so insane and so crazy.

02:04:32.000 President Zelensky was on our last episode trying to shill Ukrainian vodka.

02:04:36.000 It's just crazy.

02:04:36.000 And also, you can catch us live at 6 p.m.

02:04:39.000 Central on You Are Here.

02:04:41.000 But of course, don't compete with TimCast at the hour.

02:04:44.000 But we appreciate you guys and make sure you can find me on every social media and alt social media from Gab.

02:04:49.000 I am on Getter and Twitter and some of the other ones.

02:04:53.000 But I'm pretty much everywhere where people are because I don't give a crap about the companies as much as trying to get the content out.

02:04:59.000 So follow me there.

02:05:00.000 Slightly offensive.

02:05:00.000 And you are here.

02:05:04.000 Alright guys, thank you again for having me on.

02:05:06.000 You guys can go follow me since I've been twice banned on Twitter now.

02:05:09.000 My on-the-ground reporting will live primarily on Truth Social at SavSays and Instagram at SavWith1N.

02:05:14.000 I have my own YouTube channel, SavSays.

02:05:16.000 Go check it out.

02:05:17.000 And I also have my own podcast called Rapid Fire with Savannah Hernandez where I talk about political commentary and my on-the-ground reporting.

02:05:23.000 Also, SavSaysOfficial.com, my website.

02:05:26.000 Go check it out.

02:05:26.000 And again, thank you guys so much.

02:05:28.000 Oh, so much fun.

02:05:28.000 Thanks for coming, man.

02:05:29.000 It's great to meet you, finally.

02:05:30.000 I know, I'm so happy.

02:05:31.000 You guys are awesome.

02:05:32.000 You wonderful man.

02:05:33.000 I love you so much.

02:05:34.000 That is the nicest thing anybody's ever said to me.

02:05:37.000 I love you, too.

02:05:38.000 Tim knows this, too.

02:05:40.000 It's like some people that hate Watch, you open up your DMs, it's like stuff I can't even read.

02:05:44.000 Yeah, you can't even read it.

02:05:45.000 And I always like to post, I'm like, I guess people love me so much, they hate me.

02:05:49.000 That's true.

02:05:50.000 Oh, I have a beat on Muse's new album, which is coming out.

02:05:54.000 Do you guys know what it's called?

02:05:55.000 No, what is it?

02:05:56.000 Will of the People.

02:05:57.000 Nice.

02:05:58.000 This is Tim's single.

02:05:59.000 I don't know if you know that.

02:06:00.000 Is there singing on it?

02:06:01.000 I don't know anything about it yet, but it was the name of Tim's first single, Will of the People.

02:06:05.000 It's really like... Matthew Bellamy saw and he was like, Tim's a great musician.

02:06:09.000 Either that or there's something about the Will of the People that we need to pay attention to right now.

02:06:12.000 Maybe, maybe a little bit.

02:06:13.000 Who's controlling the will of the people?

02:06:15.000 You'll have to come on my show.

02:06:18.000 I'm definitely slightly offensive, so we can talk about crystals and demons and spirits.

02:06:22.000 Yeah, and magic, and let's talk about space travel.

02:06:24.000 And hallucinogenics.

02:06:25.000 We need to do it.

02:06:25.000 Okay.

02:06:27.000 I'm excited.

02:06:27.000 Yeah, anyway, thank you guys both very much for coming.

02:06:30.000 I just want to say before I go, this is just my two cents I have to throw out there.

02:06:33.000 I appreciate what Elijah had to say about incrementally adjusting your resistance to what's going on in the world today.

02:06:38.000 I think that's a great idea.

02:06:39.000 I would strongly recommend doing things like saving up money, trying to make sure you're prepared for whatever happens, and then you can kind of push back according to your own personal values.

02:06:47.000 You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patch Lids.

02:06:50.000 I want to address just one quick super chat from Mike Dorio who says that he's lost access to the website, but he's still being charged.

02:06:58.000 There's an issue with PayPal that they can't fix, I suppose, and we are working to fix, but it's a weird time-gated thing where it's like the year anniversary when people signed up, something weird triggers.

02:07:10.000 So we are working to fix that.

02:07:12.000 At the same time, we are also working on implementing a new alternative system that will be resilient

02:07:19.000 and we're going to announce it once it's ready and it's going to be fantastic because we

02:07:23.000 want to make sure we're working with companies who believe in free speech.

02:07:28.000 We want to, over the next year or so as we expand, separate ourselves from companies

02:07:33.000 that hate us and start working towards and with companies that don't hate us.

02:07:37.000 And that's our plan, which means there's going to be changes to membership.

02:07:42.000 Not for, no one should really notice anything, but we're going to have like a new, better

02:07:45.000 system and it's going to be really, really awesome.

02:07:48.000 You guys are going to love the news that we have.

02:07:50.000 But that being said, we will see you all over at TimCast.com.

02:07:53.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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