Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Rand Paul Calls On Americans To RESIST COVID Restrictions w-Libby Emmons

00:00:00.000 In a viral video, Dr. Senator Rand Paul called on Americans to resist the CDC's anti-science

00:00:18.000 mask mandates.

00:00:20.000 This resulted in him trending on Twitter with like hundreds of thousands of tweets. 0.94

00:00:25.000 And of course, it turned into a propaganda war, I suppose, with people saying that he was either pushing misinformation or peddling other garbage nonsense.

00:00:35.000 And so there's a question around whether or not Rand Paul should be listened to, considering we're looking at the expansion of mask mandates, and more importantly, even NBC has written that vaccine mandates could actually hurt the economy because people are going to choose not to take jobs.

00:00:51.000 There are companies that are doing mask mandates, there are companies doing vaccine mandates, and there's a lot of people saying, you know what, I'm not going to do that, so then they don't get jobs.

00:00:58.000 And then these companies can't hire, and now we have something really fascinating happening.

00:01:02.000 We have 10.1 million job openings.

00:01:06.000 We have more jobs available than people available to work at this point, which they say is supposed to be indicative of some great economic boom.

00:01:15.000 But in fact, we're coming off of a massive economic recession, so this has people quite worried.

00:01:19.000 Companies are trying to hire.

00:01:21.000 Nobody is available to work.

00:01:23.000 We'll see what that leads to.

00:01:24.000 But we're gonna have a fun conversation, because we are being joined by the Editor-in-Chief of the Postmillennial, Libby Emmons.

00:01:29.000 Hello.

00:01:30.000 Do you want to introduce yourself?

00:01:32.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:01:33.000 I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial.

00:01:34.000 I'm really glad to be here tonight.

00:01:35.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:37.000 And where do you live? 0.67

00:01:41.000 You're gonna kill me on this one. 1.00

00:01:44.000 I'm ready for it. 0.99

00:01:45.000 I live in Brooklyn, New York.

00:01:47.000 Oh man.

00:01:48.000 So now if you want to, you know, go to the bodega and get a sandwich, they make you, you gotta get like a full physical.

00:01:54.000 Yes.

00:01:54.000 That's right.

00:01:55.000 You get strip-searched.

00:01:56.000 That's what's going on.

00:01:58.000 No, but it, uh, but we'll definitely, it'll be interesting to talk about your experience in New York and what's going on, especially in light of, you know, what Rand is saying and everything.

00:02:04.000 So yeah, it's interesting.

00:02:05.000 We got Ian.

00:02:05.000 Yeah.

00:02:06.000 Dr. Senator.

00:02:07.000 That's how I'm going to refer to him.

00:02:11.000 Dr. Senator Ramphill.

00:02:12.000 Are they really like not letting people into bodegas without getting vaccines?

00:02:17.000 Bill de Blasio, the illustrious mayor of New York City, put in place this requirement that you have to show your vaccine card or this Excelsior pass that Governor Andrew Cuomo created, which has plenty of problems.

00:02:31.000 But the requirement goes into effect, I believe, September 13th.

00:02:36.000 So there's a very limited period of time in which to still enjoy the delights of the Big Apple.

00:02:41.000 You mean a limited amount of time to escape from New York.

00:02:43.000 Well, there's that too.

00:02:44.000 Great movie, by the way.

00:02:45.000 Who was it?

00:02:46.000 Kurt Russell.

00:02:47.000 That's right, Kurt Russell.

00:02:51.000 Well, you still have about a month and a half.

00:02:54.000 About a month, so good luck.

00:02:56.000 It can be for my birthday.

00:02:57.000 It'll be my birthday present.

00:02:58.000 There you go. We got we got Liddy pushing buttons. I'm here in the corner pushing buttons

00:03:02.000 I'm delighted to have Libby as always enjoy her input and really looking forward to hear what she's thinking about

00:03:06.000 what's going on in her It's her city of New York City and and and I'll also add to

00:03:11.000 Hollywood stars are fleeing for Austin So to all of the people we know who are like you got to go

00:03:15.000 to Austin I'm like, I said this was gonna happen because they're gonna bring everyone with them.

00:03:20.000 So I'm certainly, we were looking at Texas.

00:03:22.000 We were like, maybe we should go to Texas.

00:03:23.000 And then I was like, nah, I don't wanna go to Texas.

00:03:24.000 And I'm glad I didn't.

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00:03:52.000 Let's read this first story.

00:03:53.000 You may have seen the viral clip.

00:03:55.000 Senator Rand Paul, I'm sorry, Dr. Senator Rand Paul, urges people to defy COVID mandates.

00:04:01.000 They can't arrest all of us.

00:04:03.000 That's a bold statement.

00:04:04.000 He says, quote, It's time for us to resist.

00:04:08.000 They can't arrest all of us.

00:04:09.000 They can't keep all of your kids home from school.

00:04:11.000 We don't have to accept the mandates, lockdowns, and harmful policies of the petty tyrants and bureaucrats.

00:04:17.000 We can simply say no, not again.

00:04:20.000 Paul also threatened to hold up every bill with two amendments.

00:04:23.000 If any school system tries to keep kids out of the classroom this fall, one to defund them, and another to allow parents the choice of where their money goes for their child's education, That should be law anyway.

00:04:35.000 We should have school choice, but he says there's a quote Children are falling behind in school and are being harmed physically and physiological and psychologically By the tactics that you have used to keep them from the classroom during the last year.

00:04:47.000 We won't allow it again Now, of course, there's already a bunch of people who are claiming that he's telling people to outright defy the CDC in general, which was the funniest thing I saw from that.

00:04:57.000 They were like, Rand Paul says to defy the CDC.

00:05:00.000 And I'm like, he specifically said the restrictions that he called anti-science.

00:05:05.000 I don't think he said the entirety of the CDC.

00:05:07.000 And that distinction is kind of important because the CDC does more than just talk about COVID, mind you.

00:05:12.000 They talk about a lot of things.

00:05:13.000 But, um, man.

00:05:15.000 What should people do?

00:05:16.000 I don't know.

00:05:17.000 You live in the authoritarian hellscape.

00:05:19.000 What do you think?

00:05:20.000 I do live in the authoritarian hellscape, and I gotta be honest with you, I thought we had a shot.

00:05:24.000 You know, I thought things were not going to quite get this bad.

00:05:27.000 A lot of people in New York City are vaccinated.

00:05:30.000 I think we have some rather high percentage of New Yorkers who are vaccinated.

00:05:34.000 There are people who still don't want to get vaccinated.

00:05:37.000 It's not because they haven't had access to it.

00:05:40.000 So at this point they are making their grown-up choice to undergo medical treatment or not.

00:05:46.000 For some reason this is not good enough for the leftist government.

00:05:52.000 De Blasio has always been a disaster.

00:05:54.000 He's been a disaster since the moment he was elected. 0.99

00:05:57.000 He is not an intelligent man. 0.84

00:05:59.000 He is not a good elected leader.

00:06:01.000 He has absolutely no principles whatsoever.

00:06:05.000 There's nothing worthwhile about him at all.

00:06:08.000 But I did not think that he would literally throw the entire city under the bus just in

00:06:14.000 order to, you know, satisfy this weird idea that he has, so everybody needs to just do

00:06:20.000 what he says.

00:06:21.000 So, yeah, so there's this idea, this vaccine passport.

00:06:25.000 Cuomo created an – they actually call it the Excelsior Pass.

00:06:29.000 You can download it on your phone.

00:06:31.000 it will track your COVID test results.

00:06:33.000 It will track your COVID vaccine.

00:06:34.000 You can show it.

00:06:36.000 And additionally, part of the idea with the Excelsior Pass is that if you show it to get into a sporting event or what have you, you also have to show supposedly your ID.

00:06:45.000 This is what it says on the New York State website, so that they can prove that it's actually your pass.

00:06:50.000 So now, in order to Move about freely in the city where you live.

00:06:55.000 You have to show your papers at various places.

00:06:58.000 Yeah, that's what it says on the website.

00:06:58.000 Wow, ID.

00:07:00.000 I don't know.

00:07:01.000 I haven't used it.

00:07:02.000 I won't, obviously.

00:07:03.000 I'm never going to download something so the government can track me on my phone.

00:07:07.000 I mean, we're probably already tracked, whatever, but I'm not going to voluntarily do that.

00:07:12.000 This is interesting because it enters the public sphere as like, oh, but it's about, you got your vaccine already.

00:07:18.000 What's the big deal?

00:07:19.000 And you need your ID.

00:07:20.000 And then you need your I.D.

00:07:21.000 And then what's next?

00:07:23.000 That's racist.

00:07:24.000 What's next?

00:07:25.000 It's also racist, of course.

00:07:26.000 Well, it's racist for two reasons.

00:07:28.000 Asking for I.D.

00:07:28.000 is racist.

00:07:29.000 Democrats said so. 0.92

00:07:30.000 And it is true in New York and especially many of the places the black community is the least least likely to be vaccinated among racial demographics.

00:07:37.000 Yeah.

00:07:38.000 So that was something I was thinking about, too, because, you know, de Blasio has paid lip service to the black community for a long time.

00:07:44.000 Even last year when we had all of the BLM protests and then you had the, I forget what they were called, but they were like the COVID tracker people, right?

00:07:51.000 The like test and trace.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, I don't remember.

00:07:52.000 So New York had this like whole test and trace corps.

00:07:55.000 And if you tested positive for COVID, I don't know if they still do, but they would call you.

00:08:01.000 Oh yeah, I remember that.

00:08:01.000 And track you down.

00:08:03.000 And de Blasio and Cuomo, one of the things that they agreed on during the pandemic was that you are not allowed to ask someone if they have been to a protest when you are doing a track and trace thing for COVID.

00:08:15.000 Everything's a protest from now on.

00:08:16.000 So you're allowed to protest without having.

00:08:20.000 And so then they said, like, you know, then all these reports came out that said BLM protests weren't super, super spreader events.

00:08:25.000 You literally weren't allowed to ask people if they'd been to a protest once they were tracked with covid.

00:08:31.000 You weren't allowed to ask them.

00:08:32.000 So there's actually no way of knowing whether or not they were super spreader events or not.

00:08:36.000 I have a question for you.

00:08:37.000 What percentage of residents of New York City do you think are vaccinated?

00:08:41.000 I think it's something like 60.

00:08:44.000 It is 55.6.

00:08:45.000 There you go.

00:08:47.000 So, close.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, that's half.

00:08:50.000 It's plenty of an amount.

00:08:52.000 I think we're going to see more Exodus from New York City. 0.65

00:08:55.000 I think so, too.

00:08:56.000 There were already like 400,000 really rich families that left during the pandemic.

00:09:01.000 The New York City school system started out in 2020 with 1.1 million public school students, a nice, healthy number, robust school system.

00:09:13.000 And I think we're down.

00:09:14.000 We're in like the 800,000 area now.

00:09:18.000 Is this the U.S.

00:09:19.000 just being crushed like on purpose?

00:09:23.000 Being what?

00:09:23.000 Crushed.

00:09:24.000 being crushed on purpose?

00:09:24.000 Is the U.S.

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 Like by some other authoritarian type of situation?

00:09:30.000 Well, maybe not necessarily on purpose might go too far, but the policies being put in place are just destroying the country.

00:09:38.000 Yeah, I think they are destroying the country.

00:09:40.000 I think we have a real ethos problem.

00:09:42.000 We've heard Joe Biden say over and over again that his job is to keep Americans safe.

00:09:49.000 The president's job is not to keep Americans safe.

00:09:52.000 The president's job is to, you know, run the country the way that his constituents say.

00:09:58.000 Commander in chief of the armed forces?

00:09:59.000 Yes, to do that.

00:10:00.000 And like, you know, keep the country safe, perhaps, but not individuals.

00:10:04.000 And it's not his job to do anything other than to protect our rights.

00:10:08.000 And that's not what's going on.

00:10:10.000 Our rights are not being protected when we're being treated as though we can't make decisions about our own medical care.

00:10:17.000 Yeah, it feels like everything being put into place, and I've probably said this 50 million times by now, is just literally destroying the economy.

00:10:25.000 And you have to ask, if we're doing the same thing we did last time, and it didn't work last time, why are we doing the same thing again?

00:10:35.000 Like, they're putting in policies that, according to NBC News, are going to hurt job recitation growth.

00:10:43.000 And they're putting into place policies that will basically just drive people out of New York.

00:10:48.000 And we did hear Bill de Blasio say he wanted to convert the abandoned buildings into public housing.

00:10:52.000 So maybe, insofar as it goes with like de Blasio, On purpose isn't that far.

00:10:57.000 I think he does want to completely destroy the city.

00:10:59.000 I don't think he has any vision at all or any understanding of what it is that New York is really about.

00:11:04.000 The other issue too is a matter of enforcement.

00:11:08.000 So we've seen I think we were looking at videos earlier in France you see police going around to the restaurants being like oh let me see your Let me see your documentation that permits you to be outside of your home.

00:11:23.000 What are you going to do in New York?

00:11:27.000 Are the police going to be asked to do this?

00:11:29.000 Because here's an issue with that.

00:11:31.000 First of all, if the police aren't asked to do it, now you're asking just your basic guy at the bodega to start demanding things of patrons.

00:11:40.000 I don't know about you guys.

00:11:41.000 I get really testy when people ask me for stuff that they're not entitled to about my person, right?

00:11:46.000 I was telling you guys earlier about an incident in Philadelphia that we don't need to get into.

00:11:52.000 But if it's not, you're just basic McDonald's employee who gets to demand these things of you.

00:11:58.000 Your basic middle manager who then drunk on power is going to freak out at you and start calling you names.

00:12:04.000 If the New York City Police Department is asked to do this, will they do it?

00:12:07.000 You think they will do it?

00:12:08.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:12:09.000 I was talking to some guys at the NYPD that I met at some Black Trans Rights Lives Matter protests over the summer that were actually rather amusing.

00:12:19.000 And I was talking to a guy who said that the NYPD, in fact, declined to enforce social distancing mandates.

00:12:27.000 What happened was, it was early on, it was like May 2020, and they were being asked to enforce social distancing.

00:12:34.000 They were going out into the communities where there was the most COVID, most active COVID.

00:12:40.000 So what were these communities?

00:12:41.000 These were mostly minority communities.

00:12:43.000 So they're wandering around like, Fort Greene or whatever you know like Crown Heights wandering around like Bed-Stuy looking for black people and Latino people on their stoop having barbecues and then telling them to go inside so the guys I was talking to in the forest they were like that was a really super bad look that we were like breaking up you know here we are we're told to

00:13:09.000 Be less enforcing of things in these communities.

00:13:12.000 We had done stop and frisk, whatever else they pulled back on that.

00:13:16.000 And now they're supposed to tell them to all go inside.

00:13:18.000 So they refused.

00:13:19.000 They declined to enforce that.

00:13:21.000 They declined to enforce the mask thing.

00:13:23.000 If you go around, if you're on the N.Y.

00:13:26.000 New York City subway system and you happen to spot a police officer, Which is not super frequent these days, but if you haven't spot them, they're not wearing masks.

00:13:37.000 Lots of other people are wearing masks.

00:13:38.000 The NYPD declined to enforce that stuff.

00:13:41.000 In fact, I don't know if you guys remember, there was a bar in Staten Island that was like very vocally opposed.

00:13:47.000 So it was the state police that were enforcing that stuff because that's who Cuomo had control over.

00:13:52.000 Well, then the state police are going to come in and do it.

00:13:54.000 Do you think that the state police would end up with this?

00:13:56.000 This is the normal thing they do.

00:13:57.000 They bring in outside cops because, you know, if you're a cop in New York, you're worried that if the NYPD steps on toes of the locals, then you're not going to be able to go to restaurants.

00:14:07.000 You're not going to be able to get people throwing stuff at you.

00:14:09.000 So it happened with Attila's Gym in New Jersey.

00:14:14.000 The local cops from that town showed up and said have a nice day everybody and left.

00:14:19.000 So they brought in outside cops who came in and said screw you with a smile on their face and put the boot down. 0.90

00:14:24.000 Yeah, I wonder how that would go down.

00:14:27.000 Hopefully nobody ever has to find out.

00:14:29.000 What a disaster.

00:14:30.000 What a total nightmare.

00:14:31.000 They did it with the bar.

00:14:32.000 They shut it down over and over again.

00:14:34.000 There was a bar in Staten Island, and the guy wasn't even selling anything.

00:14:36.000 He was like, I'll give it away for free, I guess.

00:14:38.000 And then the state police came and stood in front of the building.

00:14:40.000 I think they arrested the guy, right?

00:14:43.000 Yeah, they arrested him multiple times.

00:14:44.000 And there was literally a bar like a block and a half away that was allowed to operate.

00:14:48.000 And he wasn't.

00:14:49.000 Because they did like zones. 1.00

00:14:50.000 They did these stupid zones. 1.00

00:14:52.000 Yeah, as though as though these zones are impossible. 1.00

00:14:55.000 My son tells me about this, you know, we'll go into a restaurant and then you don't have to take it before.

00:15:00.000 And he'd be like, Oh, well, that's right.

00:15:02.000 Once we sit down, we can take our masks off because chairs are COVID blockers.

00:15:08.000 This is the craziest thing.

00:15:10.000 I love there's a meme where it's like, uh, they, someone pulls up to a drive-through and they're being handed a, there's a tray holding the, like the Wendy's bag.

00:15:21.000 And the person's like, what's this?

00:15:22.000 And they're like, it's your food.

00:15:23.000 It's like, why is it on a tray?

00:15:24.000 And they were like, for COVID, like, why can't you just hand me the bag?

00:15:27.000 Because we're trying to reduce contact.

00:15:29.000 So you mean to tell me that you literally handled the meat, handled the bread, handled the lettuce, you put it all in the wrapper, put it all in the bag, you've touched it all already, and now you've put on a tray that you won't touch, so you're not touching the bag the one last time.

00:15:41.000 If anything, you've increased the amount of contact you've made by holding the tray!

00:15:45.000 Just give me the food! 1.00

00:15:46.000 Early on at the Postmillennial, we were running a lot of stories like that because they were just so hysterical.

00:15:51.000 And there was one with like a guy, Tim Hortons, pushing out a coffee on a hockey stick, like balanced on a hockey stick.

00:15:58.000 That's really funny.

00:15:59.000 Oh, man.

00:16:00.000 You know, it's not helping.

00:16:02.000 That's why I'm saying we are chickens in a chicken coop.

00:16:04.000 I guess some of the chickens are like, hey, something's not right.

00:16:08.000 When you guys were earlier talking about state police coming in, it made me think of the Shays' Rebellion. 0.83

00:16:12.000 Are you familiar with this rebellion?

00:16:14.000 Right after the Confederate, basically after the United States did the, what is that, 13 colonies?

00:16:20.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.000 What was it called?

00:16:21.000 The 13 colonies.

00:16:23.000 Yeah, it was before they did the Declaration of Independence.

00:16:25.000 They had like an original document that they were using.

00:16:27.000 Articles of the Confederation.

00:16:29.000 And the states had too much control and their own police wouldn't enforce.

00:16:33.000 Like the Farmers' Rebellion wanted the courts shut down.

00:16:35.000 The police were like, no, let them.

00:16:37.000 These are our friends.

00:16:38.000 We're not going to stop them.

00:16:39.000 So they had to call in the state police.

00:16:42.000 And then they were like, this is too dangerous to give so much power locally.

00:16:45.000 We need to federalize.

00:16:46.000 And in a way, they're right, because they were able to organize taxes and military.

00:16:50.000 But, you know, the danger of that is now you can send in the feds.

00:16:54.000 Everything's broken and breaking.

00:16:56.000 And I love it when, you know, we pulled up the polls last week.

00:17:01.000 You probably won't be surprised by this, Libby.

00:17:02.000 The majority of Democrat voters believe the economy is fairly good.

00:17:07.000 The majority of independent and Republican voters think the economy is either very bad or fairly bad.

00:17:12.000 Yeah.

00:17:12.000 What about what's happening?

00:17:14.000 Has these Democrats being like, this is fine.

00:17:16.000 But they're not paying any attention.

00:17:18.000 There you go.

00:17:19.000 You know, they're just not looking at it.

00:17:20.000 These are the people who are in their homes.

00:17:22.000 They've barely left.

00:17:23.000 These are the double maskers, you know, who watch Rachel Maddow and are probably still scrubbing their groceries. 0.99

00:17:30.000 For goodness sake.

00:17:31.000 It's a it's insane.

00:17:33.000 The real issue, too.

00:17:34.000 I mean, there's so many real issues.

00:17:35.000 But what happens when it doesn't work?

00:17:37.000 You know, when people still don't get vaccinated?

00:17:42.000 Whatever we did the past year.

00:17:43.000 It didn't work.

00:17:44.000 Cases are surging again.

00:17:45.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:17:46.000 There's talks about lockdowns.

00:17:48.000 Maybe we won't lockdown, but we got to wear masks again.

00:17:50.000 And it's not going to work.

00:17:51.000 It's still not going to work.

00:17:52.000 So how much are we going to give away?

00:17:54.000 And my favorite argument too is the people who are like, you know, we've given up our rights in the past.

00:17:59.000 So what are you complaining about now?

00:18:01.000 It's really not that big a deal.

00:18:02.000 And it's like, well, Maybe we should have not given our rights in the past as well.

00:18:07.000 Maybe we should not have capitulated to these authoritarian ideologies previously.

00:18:12.000 I got out of the cities.

00:18:14.000 You did get out of the city.

00:18:15.000 You didn't.

00:18:16.000 I didn't.

00:18:17.000 Nope.

00:18:19.000 I did not.

00:18:20.000 So this is interesting, though, because there's two things I want to hit at.

00:18:24.000 First, we briefly mentioned a little bit of the New York stuff, but what I've been saying for the past couple of months is that it's like you're in a house and the garage starts on fire.

00:18:32.000 And you're like, I'm in the living room.

00:18:34.000 Who cares?

00:18:35.000 And I'm like, yeah, OK.

00:18:38.000 But the other issue is, more importantly, You could argue.

00:18:41.000 If I'm sitting in my living room and the garage catches fire, I can go put the fire out.

00:18:45.000 The problem is, you've got other people in your house holding you back, saying, there's no fire, stop.

00:18:50.000 And that's the New York voter base.

00:18:53.000 That should be a meme.

00:18:53.000 That should be that dog meme.

00:18:55.000 He's trying to put the fire out.

00:18:55.000 You know, the dog meme.

00:18:57.000 This is fun.

00:18:58.000 That should be part of it.

00:18:59.000 Yeah, look, I love New York City.

00:19:01.000 I've always loved New York City.

00:19:03.000 I always wanted to live there my whole life.

00:19:04.000 My great-grandparents came from Italy to New York City in 1911 or something like that.

00:19:10.000 My grandparents were born in Little Italy.

00:19:12.000 My mom was born in Brooklyn.

00:19:15.000 I was born in Jersey because my parents were in law school there.

00:19:17.000 My son was born in Brooklyn.

00:19:20.000 I love New York City.

00:19:21.000 New York City is like, these kinds of restrictions and rules will make New York City not what it is.

00:19:29.000 When I go out recently, right, so Washington Square Park is downtown and we've written about this also at Post Millennial.

00:19:36.000 There's been like a lot of police crackdowns at Washington Square Park.

00:19:41.000 I was down there one night.

00:19:42.000 Over what?

00:19:43.000 Uh, you know, they just don't like the kids.

00:19:46.000 They don't want the kids having fun is the way I see it.

00:19:49.000 I talked to some residents and people who live in Greenwich Village, which used to be like a super artsy neighborhood and is now basically just NYU's campus.

00:19:57.000 And so it's like a lot of rich professors in their NYU housing

00:20:02.000 or whatever.

00:20:03.000 And they don't like having people in the park past midnight.

00:20:06.000 So the cops come down.

00:20:07.000 They close the park after midnight.

00:20:08.000 They try and kick everybody out.

00:20:10.000 When you walk through Washington Square Park these days at night, it's kind of great.

00:20:15.000 It's kind of like it was in the 90s, right?

00:20:17.000 Like there's a lot of kids making out, making a mess, getting high, like screwing around.

00:20:25.000 It reminds me of my misspent youth, which I like.

00:20:27.000 And then the cops come in and shut it down.

00:20:29.000 But that kind of New York, and also on the Lower East Side, people are always out.

00:20:37.000 They're unmasking.

00:20:38.000 They're like having a good time.

00:20:41.000 None of that can last with these kind of restrictions.

00:20:44.000 None of that can continue.

00:20:46.000 The arts scene can't continue with that.

00:20:49.000 And arts culture also has been so incredibly co-opted by authoritarianism at this point.

00:20:54.000 You know, it's propaganda.

00:20:56.000 They just like do exactly what they're told.

00:20:58.000 They create the kind of work that they're told.

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 That's the people in New York and how they vote.

00:21:03.000 I mean, it's just... Yes, it is.

00:21:05.000 I'm continually impressed by the cognitive dissonance of the TV says X one day and then Y the next day, but they're both consistent.

00:21:13.000 I just love these memes that are going around where it's like these blue check people tweeting things like, you know, during Trump, why would anyone trust the federal government?

00:21:21.000 And then there's one guy and he's literally saying, give me the booster every single day into my veins.

00:21:25.000 Now they love it.

00:21:26.000 Now they love the federal government.

00:21:28.000 It's insane.

00:21:29.000 So, yeah.

00:21:30.000 I don't know.

00:21:31.000 No.

00:21:31.000 they're voting. How do you save us? This is the thing, a lot of people are like, don't

00:21:36.000 leave the cities, Tim, stay and fight. And I'm like, dude, New York's like 20% conservative,

00:21:41.000 and I'm not even saying conservatives have the right answer, it's just the only alternative,

00:21:46.000 and there's nothing.

00:21:47.000 There's nothing, and there aren't any options.

00:21:50.000 Right.

00:21:50.000 I mean, I'm I'm a registered Democrat in New York so that I can vote in the primary because other like who cares about the mayoral primary on the on the Republican ticket?

00:21:59.000 It just doesn't matter.

00:22:01.000 Eric Adams was on the ticket.

00:22:03.000 And it was actually fascinating to see how many like to see that Eric Adams won that.

00:22:08.000 primary. He was the, I mean, he's Democratic Party machine.

00:22:12.000 So yes, he's far leftist, etc.

00:22:14.000 But he was the most conservative one on the ticket. And people were shocked that minorities

00:22:18.000 voted for Eric Adams instead of Maya Wiley, who was like, you know, oh, progressive, and we're

00:22:23.000 like, eating rainbow puke and all of that stuff.

00:22:26.000 But this is just losing.

00:22:29.000 It's losing.

00:22:29.000 So yeah.

00:22:31.000 Do I want to leave cities?

00:22:31.000 No, I love cities.

00:22:33.000 You are partially right, though.

00:22:36.000 But I did fall in love with Dallas recently.

00:22:39.000 Which was amazing.

00:22:40.000 I was down there covering CPAC with Post Millennial and I kind of loved it.

00:22:46.000 I really loved Dallas.

00:22:49.000 So a couple of things.

00:22:51.000 One, it was really non-judgmental.

00:22:53.000 A lot of guns.

00:22:56.000 I didn't see a lot of guns, but maybe that's part of it.

00:22:59.000 Maybe that just keeps everyone polite.

00:23:00.000 That's what they say.

00:23:01.000 An armed society is a polite society. 0.94

00:23:03.000 You know?

00:23:04.000 But the people I met were very non-judgmental, very just like open and like, hey, what's up?

00:23:08.000 I would say like, people would say like, oh, you know, what are you doing here?

00:23:11.000 I'd be like, I'm here for work.

00:23:12.000 Nobody asked me what I did for a living.

00:23:13.000 No one cared.

00:23:14.000 I respect that.

00:23:16.000 I've lived, I've spent my entire life in the Northeast.

00:23:19.000 where who your family is matters where you went to school matters what your job is matters like all of these little things matter and the only thing that doesn't really matter is who you are personally and individually you know all that matters is like the trappings of who you are and in Dallas it wasn't like that there was this great neighborhood called Deep Ellum where I went out drinking pretty much every night which I really that was fun but another thing that I like to was that it was a big city, but it didn't have these same... it didn't feel like it had these same kind of constraints.

00:23:49.000 Oh, I mean, Texas is open, isn't it?

00:23:51.000 Yeah, Texas is pretty open.

00:23:52.000 I was in Houston last week, which was different than Dallas.

00:23:55.000 What was the difference?

00:23:58.000 Houston is a little more... it felt like a little more glam, I think.

00:24:03.000 It's also not as walkable.

00:24:04.000 Dallas was a very walkable city, which I liked.

00:24:07.000 Like, I could walk to all of the places I wanted to go.

00:24:11.000 Another thing I like too though just you know and maybe it's just because I spent my whole life in the Northeast and it's changing so quickly into something that where I don't feel comfortable where I where I don't feel like I can be part of life there like when I was in Texas I've never spent I've never spent like any time in the south ever in my life like I've been to Florida when I was eight I think we went to the beach in the Carolinas Oh yeah.

00:24:38.000 Ocean Isles?

00:24:38.000 Nice?

00:24:39.000 I don't know.

00:24:40.000 There's a picture of me in a bathing suit.

00:24:42.000 I don't really know what's going on.

00:24:43.000 I remember the condo was cold.

00:24:45.000 That's it.

00:24:46.000 So I've never spent any time in the South.

00:24:50.000 It was amazing to have absolutely no point of reference.

00:24:53.000 Like, there were no memories anywhere.

00:24:56.000 There were no – in New York, everywhere I go, like, every street I walk down, every corner, you know, it's like, oh, I remember that, I remember that.

00:25:03.000 I was recently walking with friends and I realized that we kept passing theaters where

00:25:08.000 I'd had work performed and I don't do theater anymore.

00:25:13.000 But I was like, every time I was like, oh, crushing, a little crushing, a little crushing.

00:25:18.000 Nothing like that in Dallas, which also is open and free and comfortable and people are

00:25:24.000 non-judgy and maybe I can, I don't know, maybe I can make a new life. 0.63

00:25:29.000 I'm also, I'm really interested in moving the post-millennial to a southern state.

00:25:33.000 So we've been kind of talking about that.

00:25:35.000 I hear Tennessee is great.

00:25:38.000 Tennessee.

00:25:38.000 Gotta visit Tennessee.

00:25:39.000 I would say, yeah, Tennessee or Kentucky or West Virginia.

00:25:44.000 So I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm open.

00:25:46.000 But what sort of, like, what I keep marveling at is that I've never been open to leaving the Northeast in my entire life.

00:25:53.000 Like ever.

00:25:54.000 And now I'm just like, oh my God, put me in my car and drives out.

00:25:59.000 But look who's being driven out.

00:26:00.000 So you mentioned, you know, a lot of people who left New York were like wealthy.

00:26:04.000 It was like, um, upper class.

00:26:06.000 Sure.

00:26:06.000 Lower upper class.

00:26:07.000 It's, you know, not necessarily people who are millionaires, but people.

00:26:11.000 They were able to keep their apartments.

00:26:12.000 The people who moved?

00:26:13.000 No, the millionaires.

00:26:14.000 Oh, right, right, right, exactly.

00:26:15.000 They just went to their other house.

00:26:17.000 Exactly.

00:26:17.000 The ultra-rich were like, I'm gonna go stay in Martha's Vineyard for a little while.

00:26:20.000 Like Obama, they party with him this weekend.

00:26:22.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:26:23.000 But a lot of people were like, we're moving.

00:26:25.000 And they had the ability to move very quickly, so they're well off, but not necessarily the ultra-rich or anything like that.

00:26:31.000 They're leaving, but you're not ultra-rich or anything, and now you're leaving.

00:26:35.000 I'm not.

00:26:35.000 Nope.

00:26:36.000 So they're driving away you, they're homogenizing the city.

00:26:39.000 The only people who are going to stay are going to be diehard authoritarians,

00:26:44.000 who are just like, whatever de Blasio says, I will do no matter what.

00:26:48.000 Or the really poor.

00:26:48.000 And they do!

00:26:49.000 The people who can't leave.

00:26:51.000 Who will now live under the boot.

00:26:53.000 Uninformed.

00:26:54.000 Yeah.

00:26:55.000 And the New York City public school system, which I watched decades of rebuilding.

00:27:02.000 And so that like, you know, my friends who have money, who could afford private school, were sending their kids to public schools.

00:27:11.000 I sent my child to a public school after his private school closed.

00:27:16.000 I can't afford the private schools in New York City. 0.67

00:27:17.000 It's like $45,000 a year of ridiculousness. 1.00

00:27:20.000 Plus, they're trash. 1.00

00:27:21.000 I mean, that's the other piece, is they are trash. 1.00

00:27:24.000 At the end of the school year this year, a couple of my son's teachers, I want to say, came out to me as conservative. 0.99

00:27:31.000 Oh, wow.

00:27:34.000 There's too many people who do that.

00:27:36.000 Sorry.

00:27:37.000 And they should just speak up.

00:27:38.000 Now, they're in teachers' unions.

00:27:40.000 They were handing me Maya Wiley flyers or whatever it was.

00:27:43.000 And they were like, we have to hand you this.

00:27:45.000 And I was like, I'm not voting for Maya Wiley.

00:27:48.000 I've had Antifa people do it to me.

00:27:51.000 When I was in Portland, I had Black Block masked Antifa walking up to me and be like, dude, we love your stuff.

00:27:56.000 And then I was like, what are they doing?

00:27:59.000 Serving the machine.

00:28:00.000 Yes, serving the machine.

00:28:01.000 There are people who, well, to be fair, there's probably the people who are talking to me who are like, I like that you try to at least, you know, give the information, but we still don't like those guys.

00:28:12.000 So they can say, oh, you're cool.

00:28:14.000 You're all right.

00:28:15.000 But they're still zealots.

00:28:16.000 And it's still a problem.

00:28:17.000 But when we have tons of people, I can't tell you how many emails we get where it's like, I really wish I could say something, but I can't.

00:28:23.000 I'm like, dude, then we're screwed. 0.97

00:28:25.000 We're screwed. 0.99

00:28:26.000 I agree with you. 0.96

00:28:27.000 I get those emails too from people who, you know, were in theater and that I've worked with and they're like, oh, I'm still trying to hang on to my theater career.

00:28:33.000 And I'm like, cash it in, dude.

00:28:35.000 Let's chuck it.

00:28:36.000 Start over.

00:28:37.000 Let's do something else.

00:28:38.000 But, and everyone always responds, it's easy to say, you know, when you don't have kids, because these people have kids.

00:28:45.000 You've got a job that you can move with that actually, your cultural positions benefit your career.

00:28:50.000 A lot of people don't have that.

00:28:52.000 And I'm still saying, dude, look, I get it, I don't have kids.

00:28:55.000 But I can tell you this, I'm worried about the future for the next generation, because people won't speak up and defend their kids.

00:29:00.000 That's right. 0.87

00:29:01.000 If you're not gonna defend your children and the world they live in, then you're giving them trash. 0.67

00:29:06.000 So as for leaving New York, I will say, I say get out of the cities.

00:29:11.000 And a lot of people are like, Tim, what about Texas and what about Florida?

00:29:14.000 I'm like, good point.

00:29:15.000 Miami's pretty cool.

00:29:16.000 The weather is brutal.

00:29:18.000 The weather is like, it's like you might as well go live under the sea.

00:29:21.000 It's like humid and raining all the time.

00:29:23.000 But DeSantis is doing a pretty good job with the state.

00:29:26.000 They're coming out and saying like, oh, the COVID and all this crazy stuff.

00:29:29.000 And I'm like, At this point, if people have the opportunity to get the vaccine and they don't want to do it, I don't know what a country is supposed to do if you, like, you know, I guess de Blasio forced people to do it.

00:29:40.000 But I digress.

00:29:42.000 Here's the problem right here.

00:29:43.000 From the New York Post, Hollywood stars are fleeing to Austin amid the COVID-19 pandemic, and I warned y'all this would happen.

00:29:51.000 When there's that comic of Joe Rogan, and he's got his little pull bag, you know, whatever, his roller bag, and he's walking from California, Texas, and the bag says liberal policies on it.

00:30:00.000 Should've been a fanny pack, by the way.

00:30:01.000 And there's, it says liberal policies on it, and there's a cowboy saying like, hey, hold on there, mister, why don't you leave that where you got it?

00:30:06.000 Everyone's like, yeah, but is Joe Rogan really gonna be bringing these policies with him?

00:30:10.000 He may be fairly, like, lefty in a lot of ways, but he's very anti-authoritarian.

00:30:16.000 And he has staff.

00:30:18.000 And he is going to run a business.

00:30:21.000 He's got his comedy aspirations.

00:30:23.000 He wants to have shows.

00:30:25.000 He started a club.

00:30:26.000 Got to hire people.

00:30:26.000 There you go.

00:30:27.000 So what's going to happen?

00:30:28.000 The people from the industry in California are going to be like, well, Joe Rogan's hiring.

00:30:30.000 I guess I'll go out there.

00:30:31.000 And those are rational people.

00:30:33.000 They're not far lefties, but they're a little lefty.

00:30:35.000 They'll probably still vote Democrat.

00:30:36.000 And then the rest of the Hollywood stars are going to be like, did you hear that Elon Musk and All of these really fun and amazing people are moving to Austin, I should go there too.

00:30:47.000 And I've got a bunch of Hollywood celebrities being like, Austin's the place to be.

00:30:50.000 And guess what?

00:30:51.000 They're gonna bring all their stuff.

00:30:52.000 And they're gonna bring all their lefty politics with them. 1.00

00:30:55.000 That's right.

00:30:56.000 Because the person who makes $50,000 a year carrying the coattails of some Hollywood celebrity is not going to be conservative.

00:31:04.000 They're gonna be like, to those according to their needs or whatever.

00:31:09.000 That's what they're gonna be advocating for.

00:31:11.000 So they're all going to come and Texas is going to go... Well, maybe.

00:31:16.000 I definitely think so.

00:31:17.000 If that's the case.

00:31:18.000 OK, so if that's the case.

00:31:20.000 So the New Yorkers are fleeing to Florida.

00:31:22.000 We've seen that.

00:31:23.000 Californians are fleeing to Texas.

00:31:25.000 That's happening.

00:31:26.000 So where the hell are we supposed to go?

00:31:28.000 West Virginia.

00:31:29.000 West Virginia.

00:31:30.000 Tennessee, Kentucky.

00:31:31.000 I almost said Texas again.

00:31:33.000 I mean, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia.

00:31:35.000 I know Louisville has some interesting stuff going on.

00:31:39.000 Where's that?

00:31:40.000 Louisville?

00:31:41.000 Yeah, Louisville.

00:31:42.000 See, I don't even know.

00:31:42.000 Louisville?

00:31:44.000 Ian was like, what's that?

00:31:44.000 I don't even know!

00:31:45.000 What is that?

00:31:46.000 Who's that?

00:31:46.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:31:47.000 Good point.

00:31:48.000 I don't even know.

00:31:49.000 Louisville, actually, that's in Colorado, so.

00:31:51.000 Let me just pretend I got that mixed up.

00:31:54.000 Nashville, I hear, is doing pretty good.

00:31:56.000 Right?

00:31:57.000 You know, you've got Daily Wire's out there.

00:31:59.000 Daily Wire's out there.

00:32:01.000 I definitely want to visit.

00:32:02.000 It was so reactive for everybody to be like, Texas!

00:32:05.000 And I'm like, that's like a trope about Texas being this, like, free and very red state.

00:32:11.000 It's like, it was almost 50-50 this past couple elections, and Austin is deep blue, and it's attracting all of the hipsters.

00:32:19.000 It's been since South by Southwest, as far as I can remember, very hipster.

00:32:23.000 Well, Austin has been for a long time.

00:32:24.000 What about, like, maybe Eastern Montana?

00:32:27.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:32:29.000 Montana and Wyoming, 100%.

00:32:30.000 Oh yeah, Wyoming.

00:32:32.000 You want to go live in the middle of nowhere and rough it and figure it out for yourself, do it to it. 0.98

00:32:37.000 I think Bozeman might be a little blue though.

00:32:39.000 Yeah, that's why I'm saying eastern Montana.

00:32:42.000 Yeah, I've driven through there.

00:32:43.000 It's beautiful.

00:32:43.000 It's awesome.

00:32:45.000 You can't even get cell service.

00:32:47.000 I'm saying, look, so we were, we didn't want to move to a place where we're going to get the influx of the progressive faux activists.

00:32:56.000 I don't even think it's fair to call the Hollywood stars leftists.

00:32:58.000 That's unfair to leftists.

00:32:59.000 It is.

00:33:01.000 Like, if I can sit here and have a conversation with an actual communist who believes in communism and genuinely believes in communism, I can respect them actually standing up and being honest.

00:33:10.000 These Hollywood—even though I disagree with them—the Hollywood stars, they don't believe in anything.

00:33:15.000 No, they don't.

00:33:17.000 So we're looking at places to go.

00:33:18.000 They're opportunists.

00:33:19.000 Absolutely.

00:33:19.000 They're like, whatever the corporations want me to say, so they pay me money.

00:33:22.000 They're models. 0.94

00:33:23.000 Glorified models.

00:33:25.000 They're literally marketing tools for movies and for shows.

00:33:25.000 It's marketing.

00:33:29.000 So of course they're going to side with corporate America and say whatever they think will sell more.

00:33:33.000 Doesn't mean that they don't know stuff.

00:33:34.000 Some of them are probably incredibly educated on their things.

00:33:37.000 James Woods.

00:33:37.000 Well, sure.

00:33:39.000 He's a little mean, though.

00:33:41.000 You know, your job is to keep your mouth shut, though.

00:33:42.000 So if they do know what's going on, they will get ostracized if they speak up.

00:33:47.000 Like James Woods.

00:33:48.000 Like what happened to me, basically.

00:33:49.000 I stopped getting called back when they stopped my YouTube videos.

00:33:52.000 2007, that was rough.

00:33:53.000 We were trying to find a place where we can get away from the cities, have space, and expand.

00:34:00.000 And we were in the Philly area, and it was nuts.

00:34:02.000 It was one of the worst states for restrictions.

00:34:05.000 And they told us in March, don't go outside anymore.

00:34:08.000 Unless you have no choice.

00:34:09.000 They were like, don't walk around with people, and we were like, this is crazy.

00:34:11.000 It's insane.

00:34:12.000 But we look at Texas, and I'm like, I can see what's gonna happen in Texas.

00:34:16.000 I can see what's gonna happen with these Hollywood, California, Arizona, Colorado, they're all gonna keep coming in, and then, there you go, you end up with hipster blue state.

00:34:25.000 Now West Virginia's losing people.

00:34:27.000 People are, because there's a, there's this phenomenon, it's really fascinating, that even in red states, urban centers tend to be blue for some reason.

00:34:34.000 So even in West Virginia, you have blue areas.

00:34:38.000 The people who are there, there was an article I was reading in the AP and this woman was like, I'm a teacher and this is horrible, this state is terrible, I'm leaving.

00:34:45.000 I'm going to Texas.

00:34:47.000 And I was like, yes!

00:34:47.000 Get out of here.

00:34:49.000 West Virginia, man.

00:34:50.000 You've got a lot of opportunity.

00:34:51.000 We were looking at some small dying towns.

00:34:54.000 I was like, wouldn't it be cool?

00:34:56.000 If we went to an area that used to be bustling with life, and it's got buildings and infrastructure, but now it's an opportunity zone because the industry left, we could save money, we could have available resources and internet, find a bunch of towns just like that.

00:35:07.000 The problem?

00:35:08.000 No good airports.

00:35:09.000 So bringing people in would be impossible.

00:35:11.000 So then we find this area basically, which is the Compromise, where we're close enough to an airport, but kind of far away, but this facility is still in Maryland, I love this idea of revitalizing a dead town.

00:35:24.000 There was an entire town in Connecticut I think I saw a year or so ago.

00:35:29.000 The entire town was for sale.

00:35:32.000 Megan McCain talks about this.

00:35:34.000 I don't want to live in Connecticut.

00:35:36.000 But Meghan McCain talks about this on Instagram a lot.

00:35:39.000 She's like, you know, let's let's create a new place to live. 0.90

00:35:42.000 We'll just all go move there.

00:35:43.000 And there's something to that idea of like, just everybody just go to some town and turn it into a place where you want to be.

00:35:51.000 Like all solar panels on every roof.

00:35:53.000 You don't need a central electric grid.

00:35:54.000 Whatever.

00:35:55.000 You know, that could be your town.

00:35:56.000 Well, so, uh, we're planning this.

00:35:58.000 We could have different towns.

00:35:59.000 We could have different towns.

00:36:02.000 We could get some light rail going.

00:36:03.000 That'd be great.

00:36:05.000 You think we're joking?

00:36:06.000 No, I'm not joking.

00:36:06.000 I'm not joking.

00:36:09.000 I need a place to live, so let's build one.

00:36:13.000 No, no, no.

00:36:13.000 We've been planning it for the past couple of weeks.

00:36:15.000 Nice.

00:36:16.000 So we need a bigger production facility.

00:36:19.000 This place we're in right now can host a few of the shows we're doing, but we've got so much happening and so many people that we're like, okay, we need another building.

00:36:28.000 We need another space because we don't have the offices for this place.

00:36:31.000 I love how the media's like, Kim Bull bought an eight-bedroom mansion. 1.00

00:36:34.000 It's like, yeah, we rent out half of it for production, and the other half is basically a green room essentially where people are like working.

00:36:40.000 Plus, why can't you have whatever you want?

00:36:41.000 Like, have your big house if you want.

00:36:44.000 Well, sure, sure.

00:36:45.000 But what I mean is, they try to make it seem like the purpose of the house is like, we're all just like, we have a theater room, and a game room, and a bowling room, and it's like, well, we have an office, an office, an office, an office, an office, a studio, a studio.

00:36:56.000 So we need another building so we can actually alleviate some of that pressure.

00:36:59.000 So that you can have the bowling room and the game room.

00:37:02.000 Actually, I mean, we do have a skate park here.

00:37:02.000 Yes.

00:37:04.000 Too late.

00:37:04.000 Which is awesome.

00:37:05.000 Yeah, I mean, to be fair.

00:37:06.000 So here's the plan.

00:37:07.000 I was looking for these places in West Virginia where we would just start building something.

00:37:12.000 Because it's actually, surprisingly, not that expensive if you're building just like a standard office unit kind of building.

00:37:19.000 And we went to... I forgot where we were going.

00:37:23.000 I don't remember where we were going.

00:37:24.000 A mall or something.

00:37:25.000 And we took the scenic route and we drove through a bunch of these small towns in West Virginia that were just nothing.

00:37:31.000 Like, they're just little houses.

00:37:33.000 And then I was like, a lot of these places are for sale, for cheap.

00:37:36.000 They need to work to fix them up.

00:37:38.000 But why bother trying to build this massive unit and get utilities installed and all that stuff When we could literally buy, like, three of these houses for the same price, and then have twice as much space as we normally would, we wouldn't have the acreage, but we'd have a decent amount of acreage, and then we actually just have a little urban hub, like, well, suburban hub, where we have, like, that building?

00:37:57.000 Oh yeah, that's where they do video editing.

00:37:59.000 That building is where they do the game design.

00:38:00.000 And so then you have a little town instead of a building.

00:38:02.000 Right.

00:38:03.000 I think that'd be epic.

00:38:05.000 That sounds really badass.

00:38:06.000 Sounds way better than going to Austin with a bunch of Hollywood celebrities who are just like vomiting up faux activism.

00:38:12.000 And who have absolutely no principles.

00:38:14.000 And then you're in West Virginia, which is the second reddest state in the country.

00:38:14.000 Yeah.

00:38:19.000 You know what the funny thing is, though?

00:38:21.000 Like, I'm in.

00:38:21.000 I'll come.

00:38:25.000 All right.

00:38:25.000 Bring your friends.

00:38:25.000 We'll bring the Postmillennial to the Newtown.

00:38:27.000 We'll be like the resident newspaper.

00:38:29.000 Great, yeah.

00:38:30.000 This is the funniest thing, though.

00:38:31.000 Check it out.

00:38:34.000 I've long maintained this, even going back to the days of, like, Ron Paul.

00:38:37.000 Because I don't completely agree with Ron Paul's conservative positions in a lot of ways, but I do agree with his libertarian positions of, like, leave me alone.

00:38:44.000 I'm like, I like that.

00:38:45.000 See, the issue is, if you're a true left libertarian, you're better off voting for and supporting right libertarians.

00:38:52.000 Real ones.

00:38:53.000 The problem with, like, the Libertarian Party is they're all kind of, like, out of their mind, except for now you've got, you know, Dave Smith and these caucus guys who are pretty savvy and on the level.

00:39:02.000 But here's the thing.

00:39:03.000 There's no situation by which you can vote in the modern system, left libertarians, and actually get a cooperative system that you want.

00:39:10.000 But if you have in a Ron Paul style government of limited government, then you and your friends can be free to get together and do what you want to do without being oppressed by outside forces.

00:39:19.000 Which really should be, you know, that's that's Americanism.

00:39:22.000 That's what that is.

00:39:24.000 It's an individualistic perspective.

00:39:26.000 What we have on the left these days is so much, but it's about You know, these principles that they tout, these principles of compassion and whatever else, but there's literally nothing that they wouldn't sacrifice for this mythological conception of the greater good.

00:39:39.000 We were talking about this with Vosh.

00:39:41.000 I think this was on the bonus segment, because I didn't talk as much on the bonus segment.

00:39:45.000 We argued a little bit more.

00:39:47.000 And I think Charlie had brought this up, Charlie Kirk brought this up, and then I agreed that basically there's no real good way to scale left libertarianism.

00:39:56.000 Because the idea of libertarian socialism eventually becomes authoritarian because there's no way to enforce.

00:40:01.000 Once the lines of communication go six degrees of Kevin Bacon, then you're forcing people to do things they don't want to do.

00:40:06.000 It's an impossible thing to scale.

00:40:07.000 All governments probably become authoritarian, right?

00:40:10.000 Well, right libertarianism, to a certain extent, maybe not.

00:40:14.000 And I don't mean far-right, like laissez-faire capitalism.

00:40:16.000 I mean, like, leaning more towards free enterprise with light regulation.

00:40:19.000 Like, very light.

00:40:21.000 Then you'll end up with people choosing where they want to live, buying what they want to buy.

00:40:24.000 It's negotiated, it's trade.

00:40:26.000 But you got corporate authoritarianism in that direction.

00:40:28.000 That's why I said like regulation.

00:40:30.000 So you have the means by which the people can still cooperate to stop the centralization of power.

00:40:36.000 And so here's what I'm saying.

00:40:37.000 If there is a left libertarian system, how does it expand to actually encompass and guarantee your rights in a large space where you're hundreds of miles away from somebody else?

00:40:46.000 You need like isolated pockets of it that can co-interoperate.

00:40:50.000 But so the issue then is...

00:40:54.000 If you had a government that was left-libertarian, that is encompassing the entire state.

00:40:59.000 You then have people in the northwest part of the state saying, I don't agree with what the southeast is imposing on us, and now you are getting into authoritarianism.

00:41:06.000 It's not necessarily that it is authoritarian.

00:41:09.000 It's that people are not going to start fighting, and it's hard to have a cohesive system.

00:41:12.000 If the system itself is right-libertarian, then you can be like us here up in the northwest.

00:41:15.000 We operate on the left-libertarian principle of libertarian socialism.

00:41:18.000 If you want to move here, here are the rules.

00:41:20.000 If you're not, that's fine.

00:41:21.000 You can go and do your own thing.

00:41:22.000 And then everyone agrees and they all work together and they can share their vegetables without using money.

00:41:26.000 And then the right libertarian people is the overarching system where it says we're gonna leave you all alone.

00:41:30.000 Unless there's the non-aggression principle, and unless you've got the currency and the negotiating skills, you can't come in and screw with these people.

00:41:37.000 Then on your own little hippie farm you can do whatever you want.

00:41:40.000 That I think works out pretty great.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, except that it's a very similar type of thing, right?

00:41:45.000 Because you still then have a sort of group ideology that rules everything and individuals are not permitted to go against that group ideology.

00:41:53.000 But like in a small farm?

00:41:55.000 I don't know.

00:41:55.000 It's sort of like a commune type of thing.

00:41:58.000 I mean, if it's your farm, right, and it's like your actual farm, then I wouldn't move there if I didn't want to go along with your thing.

00:42:04.000 And there you go.

00:42:05.000 But like, then we're also, you know, cults do that too.

00:42:07.000 Like, did you guys see that Netflix documentary about that little town in Oregon that was taken over by this weird cult?

00:42:13.000 No!

00:42:14.000 Wow. 0.97

00:42:15.000 Weird, like, public sex cult thing. 0.91

00:42:17.000 It was very weird.

00:42:18.000 Weird.

00:42:19.000 I'm saying there's one very famous commune.

00:42:22.000 But they pushed out all of the people who lived there originally.

00:42:25.000 So the people who lived there originally had this sort of, they were just like doing whatever,

00:42:29.000 you know, they were mostly older folks, retired, there was like a little cafe or whatever.

00:42:33.000 So these cold people moved in, they all started wearing the exact same outfits all the time,

00:42:37.000 and they basically ran for city government and they pushed out the people who were there

00:42:41.000 and they took over the town.

00:42:43.000 Right, that's when you get into authoritarianism.

00:42:45.000 That's why I'm saying left libertarianism doesn't scale.

00:42:48.000 It eventually just becomes authoritarian.

00:42:50.000 So the true ideal of left libertarianism would be like a farm with like a bunch of hippies hanging out and they're friends with each other and they're a family or whatever.

00:42:58.000 It sounds a little utopian.

00:43:01.000 There's a very famous one that's got a hundred person capacity, and people apply, and then they say, here are the rules, and then they come in, and they stay as long as they want, and when they're done, they leave, and then it opens up a position for someone else.

00:43:12.000 Somebody else can come in, yeah.

00:43:13.000 So it's capped at a hundred, and everyone knows the rules, and everyone agrees, and they, you know, arbitrate disputes between people, but for the most part, it is a cooperative, and the people with seniority are the ones who basically say, like, okay, if you're new here, we're gonna protect the people who are here, but people rotate.

00:43:30.000 Interesting.

00:43:30.000 You get bigger than that and you start swallowing up other people's jurisdictions and then it just becomes authoritarianism.

00:43:38.000 Why can't we have a city that respects people's individual liberties and doesn't capitulate to authoritarianism?

00:43:44.000 Like maybe a nice big city with some... Because people don't want to work.

00:43:48.000 That's that's probably it.

00:43:49.000 So I think I'm so happy to work.

00:43:50.000 I'm so grateful to have a job all the time.

00:43:52.000 I'm like, yeah, I have a job.

00:43:53.000 But look at what look at what we're seeing now with the current the current trends in business, the labor shortage.

00:44:03.000 I saw somebody post somebody posted a meme and they were like it was it was two two stands like, you know, kiosks.

00:44:09.000 And one had a huge line of people and the other didn't.

00:44:12.000 And the huge line of people said $17 an hour.

00:44:14.000 And the other kiosk said minimum wage.

00:44:16.000 And then they commented, like, maybe if these businesses paid better wages, people would want to work there.

00:44:21.000 And I say, that's not true.

00:44:23.000 The problem isn't that they're not paying enough.

00:44:24.000 It's that the government's paying them for nothing.

00:44:26.000 Well, that's what the president said. 0.98

00:44:27.000 The president basically told, there was like one of those stupid town hall things on CNN, and a business owner was like, hey, I can't get anyone to come work at my restaurant. 0.98

00:44:35.000 And Biden was basically like, maybe you should pay more. 0.99

00:44:39.000 So it's obvious.

00:44:39.000 I was like, oh yeah, I should pay more with restrictions.

00:44:42.000 And how is he supposed to make any money if he can't get anyone to work there?

00:44:46.000 So it's obvious.

00:44:48.000 If you're paying someone $16 an hour not to work, that means

00:44:51.000 they can literally sit there staring at the wall or play video games.

00:44:54.000 If someone comes and says $17 an hour to work 40 hours, Yeah, I don't want to do that.

00:45:00.000 Because zero has now become $16 an hour.

00:45:03.000 Right.

00:45:04.000 The interesting thing about this is that people will accept the $300 bonus check until $300 is literally worth nothing.

00:45:10.000 Because think about it.

00:45:11.000 Let's say right now the government's like, okay, $300 per week is a bonus.

00:45:15.000 And you're thinking, okay, $300, that can buy me enough groceries for about a week.

00:45:19.000 Inflation hits because they're mass printing of money without any resources being produced.

00:45:23.000 So within a couple of weeks or a month, now they're like, okay, $300 can get me about 65% of the way through the week in terms of groceries.

00:45:30.000 I'll take it, it's free, right?

00:45:31.000 That carries on until eventually you're like, $300, it's a free cheeseburger!

00:45:35.000 Right.

00:45:36.000 I'll take a free cheeseburger!

00:45:38.000 No matter what happens.

00:45:39.000 It's just it's free something no matter how much or how little is it is a free something so until $300 becomes worth zero people will never give up free money Granted a free cheeseburger.

00:45:50.000 You'll start to get a job then, but then we're still driving hyperinflation.

00:45:53.000 Depends on how big the cheeseburger is But yeah, I mean, I think also part of the devaluing of work and devaluing the work ethic is part of our culture that devalues life.

00:46:05.000 We devalue the individual.

00:46:06.000 We say, you know, you're not worth anything unless you're famous.

00:46:09.000 You're not worth anything unless you're rich or any of these other things.

00:46:13.000 Be driven by your pleasure principles.

00:46:15.000 Don't be driven by interest and responsibility and, you know, stewarding families or any

00:46:23.000 of this.

00:46:24.000 You know, the message that we get is to like – it's idiocracy, right? 0.95

00:46:29.000 It's Mike Judge's idiocracy. 1.00

00:46:30.000 It's like, sit around, jerk off, eat cheeseburgers, and don't care about yourself. 1.00

00:46:34.000 Don't care about other human beings. 1.00

00:46:36.000 Don't care about your own worth.

00:46:39.000 If aliens ever come to Earth, they will shake hands with humans, not because they overcame nuclear weapons, but because we overcame the Xbox.

00:46:47.000 I can't remember what that quote is from.

00:46:50.000 It's a little bit old, because Xboxes... Are a little bit old, yeah.

00:46:53.000 Well, no, I mean, everyone plays PlayStation, right?

00:46:55.000 That's the real issue?

00:46:56.000 No.

00:46:56.000 Anyway, the point is, Are you shilling for Microsoft right now? No, I'm mocking

00:47:02.000 them for being you know, less popular X box video games trigger, you know dopamine

00:47:07.000 Mm-hmm replaced our actual goals and drives and desires. We are addicted to not doing we're not doing substantive

00:47:14.000 things I've been feeling nihilistic lately and it's partly I think

00:47:18.000 and I'm kind of trying to locate why What I've come to is I keep wanting to solve the world's problems in this lifetime.

00:47:25.000 I feel like I can, and I'm going, if I don't, then I've failed.

00:47:28.000 And it's driving me insane because it's such a big problem and groupthink and herd mentality.

00:47:34.000 And I realize, or at least I'm thinking, maybe we're just planting the seeds of the trees we'll never see.

00:47:39.000 Yeah.

00:47:40.000 Well, of course, it's a long game.

00:47:42.000 It's a long project.

00:47:43.000 But also, doesn't the project have a lot to do with how we interact with each other on a personal level, how we go about our daily lives?

00:47:54.000 Being kind to each other is so meaningful.

00:47:59.000 I don't think that that can be overestimated. 0.93

00:48:00.000 I sound dumb and Pollyanna-ish, you know, and I've been accused of Pollyannaism before. 0.91

00:48:04.000 What's that? 0.97

00:48:05.000 Pollyannaism, where you're just, like, hopelessly optimistic despite being hit with meteors all the time.

00:48:11.000 It's a dog sitting in burning buildings, and this is fun.

00:48:14.000 But I do think that what really matters in life are the kind moments that we have with one another.

00:48:21.000 I think that's what's important.

00:48:25.000 We're going to jump into this guy right here, Philip DeFranco.

00:48:27.000 We're going to talk about Philip DeFranco.

00:48:30.000 I used to be a big fan of Fidel DeFranco.

00:48:32.000 He was his own guy.

00:48:33.000 He started on YouTube a long time ago, one of the OGs.

00:48:36.000 And he built up this news company.

00:48:39.000 He had SourceFed.

00:48:40.000 And I was always like, man, this guy, he works hard.

00:48:44.000 He was calm, rational, reasonable.

00:48:45.000 He interviewed Gary Johnson.

00:48:47.000 He brought alternative voices to the political debate.

00:48:51.000 And I was like, this is cool.

00:48:52.000 It is cool to see that through YouTube, we can hear more from people like the Libertarian Party.

00:48:59.000 Granted, the Libertarian Party is a little Jack Sparrow-y.

00:49:02.000 But today, I just see these tweets from him and it's like, he's just become so mean.

00:49:08.000 He was always kind of snarky like that.

00:49:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:10.000 But it's one thing... I don't know, man.

00:49:13.000 Maybe I'm just wrong, but...

00:49:15.000 I've met him a couple times, I've talked with him, and he always seemed to be willing to listen and kind of more reasonable.

00:49:21.000 Like, when the media ecosystem was on TV yelling and things like that, he always presented the news in a way that was more so like, well, let's take a look at what they're saying and why.

00:49:31.000 Like, let's be reasonable.

00:49:32.000 Here's what he has now.

00:49:33.000 Phil DeFranco tweeted, imagine having the eligibility and access to get the vaccine and saying, nah, also to the pearl clutchers offended by this tweet. 1.00

00:49:41.000 Yes, I am calling you stupid and you can go F yourself, you ignorant, selfish F face. 1.00

00:49:46.000 He then posted again, F man, dammit, this isn't me. 1.00

00:49:49.000 I missed the mark. 0.96

00:49:49.000 I would really like to apologize if you'll give me the time to read this. 0.96

00:49:52.000 I saw that tweet when he said that and I was like, that's cool, man.

00:49:55.000 That's like Phil.

00:49:57.000 And then I read what he actually posted.

00:49:59.000 Just kidding!

00:49:59.000 Ha ha ha, F you again!

00:50:00.000 And to the people saying, oh wow, name-calling is really gonna convince me, I'm done trying to convince you, that's over. 0.99

00:50:05.000 I'm just gonna mock you for believing a bunch of F-faced grifters monetizing misinformation and or ignorance over scientists using the most recent and relevant info.

00:50:14.000 So look, I'm not gonna cry about it, it's like whatever, I don't know. 0.97

00:50:17.000 You know, he does his thing, that's fine.

00:50:19.000 But I saw that and I'm like, what happened to us?

00:50:23.000 He wasn't always like that.

00:50:25.000 No, no.

00:50:26.000 He was Sexy Phil, dude.

00:50:27.000 If you know Phil in the early days, his video channel was Sexy Phil.

00:50:31.000 S-X-E Phil.

00:50:32.000 Straight edge Phil.

00:50:33.000 Yeah, pure Phil being sexy in his bedroom, all black and white, chilling.

00:50:37.000 Mystery Guitar Man writes his killer theme song.

00:50:40.000 It's Phil.

00:50:40.000 He's a normal dude.

00:50:41.000 But even...

00:50:43.000 Six years ago.

00:50:44.000 Like the last time I saw him at VidCon or whatever, and he was like, hey, you know, he's really nice, really calm, really chill.

00:50:49.000 Now he's on Twitter just calling people F-face and insulting them.

00:50:53.000 I was thinking this about Sarah Silverman too.

00:50:55.000 It seems like, and I don't know if it's indicative of celebrities only, but it seems like people that are kind of tertiary or on the outskirts watching what's happening have like a snapping mental break moment. 0.97

00:51:04.000 And then it comes out in some dumb Twitter post.

00:51:06.000 I remember Sarah Silverman was like, just get over it, people. 0.97

00:51:09.000 Like she just had it.

00:51:11.000 This is Phil just having it.

00:51:12.000 He also was on the wrong side of the Covington kids thing.

00:51:16.000 It's been a gradual thing where... Oh, Phil?

00:51:19.000 Yeah, the dudes... Look, man.

00:51:23.000 I'm not gonna cry that he's calling people these things.

00:51:25.000 I'm just asking, why is that happening? 1.00

00:51:28.000 Probably because he doesn't have anyone around telling him he's an idiot. 1.00

00:51:31.000 I mean, his wife's pretty cool. 1.00

00:51:33.000 But you look at what happens when these things happen, right?

00:51:35.000 Now, there'll be some drama.

00:51:37.000 They'll be like, oh, you know, Tim Pool said X or whatever.

00:51:39.000 All I'm saying is, why do you got to be so mean to people all the time?

00:51:43.000 Why is everyone constantly trying to be mean?

00:51:45.000 I don't want to be mean to Phil.

00:51:46.000 I was, I was, I was a big fan until I started seeing him tweet stuff like this.

00:51:50.000 And I'm just like, I don't like people being just mean directly to other people.

00:51:55.000 He's, he's got kids.

00:51:57.000 I think he has two kids now.

00:51:58.000 So he's, maybe he's being like overly protective of it and bought into the hype, the media hype. 0.99

00:52:03.000 That's still not an excuse to be like a total dick, though. 0.94

00:52:06.000 But I also did say, what happened to us? 0.97

00:52:08.000 I'm not absolving myself from any of the responsibility for the things I've said either.

00:52:11.000 I've said some horrible stuff to people in the last 20 years, 15 years.

00:52:13.000 And I'm just wondering, like, man, can we just kinda... Look, I'm not gonna be unfair to myself.

00:52:18.000 I genuinely try to avoid directly insulting and name-calling.

00:52:22.000 I do a very good job.

00:52:23.000 But sometimes I'll mock people and I'll do really snide impersonations of them.

00:52:28.000 But I generally try to avoid...

00:52:31.000 Things like this, that are just really nasty, really low, really angry and mean, no forgiveness.

00:52:37.000 That's like the key thing here, like what happened to being like, yo, let's work this out, let's be nice to each other.

00:52:42.000 But one thing that is going on too, and we can go back to the, I mean, discussing this vaccine passport situation, is that is bullying, right?

00:52:50.000 Saying to people, you can't go to work, you can't work out, you can't eat out, you can't participate in life, unless you do this thing that I'm demanding that you do, whatever it is.

00:52:59.000 Whatever it is.

00:53:00.000 That's a bullying thing to do. 0.98

00:53:02.000 That's a mean bully thing to do.

00:53:03.000 And so I understand... From the same people who are constantly saying like, oh, don't bully.

00:53:07.000 We have to have special sessions in all of our schools and... So here's what I want to point out.

00:53:14.000 When he says, I'm going to mock you for believing a bunch of F-faced grifters monetizing misinformation and or ignorance over scientists using the most recent irrelevant info. 0.93

00:53:23.000 You know what the nail in the coffin for me on this one is? 0.95

00:53:27.000 One of the biggest issues.

00:53:28.000 From UPMC, University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University, researchers identified groups hesitant about COVID-19 vaccine.

00:53:36.000 And they say, Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group, those with a PhD.

00:53:41.000 By May, PhDs were the most hesitant group, while vaccine hesitancy decreased across virtually all racial groups.

00:53:50.000 They say blacks and Pacific Islanders had the largest decrease.

00:53:52.000 They mentioned that those with high school educations or less were the most likely to reduce their vaccine hesitancy.

00:53:59.000 So here's my overall point about what Phil is doing.

00:54:04.000 Not only is he being really, really mean to people, but he is also very, very wrong about what he's talking about.

00:54:10.000 The people who are being misled or, you know, whatever, are not... First of all, why would you be mean to somebody who is confused by lies? 1.00

00:54:20.000 Like, when people believe bad things, I don't say, you're a stupid moron! 1.00

00:54:24.000 I say, that's not true, let me show you the proof. 1.00

00:54:26.000 So why come out and insult them?

00:54:27.000 And it turns out, of all the people he's criticizing, he's criticizing people with PhDs.

00:54:31.000 Now, I can't tell you what people with PhDs are the most hesitant.

00:54:33.000 I have no idea. 1.00

00:54:34.000 So the point is, are we gonna pretend like people with PhDs are stupid? 1.00

00:54:38.000 Okay, well, isn't that the science and academia? 1.00

00:54:41.000 We have a very serious conundrum of perspectives here.

00:54:46.000 This is science.

00:54:48.000 We're supposed to trust science, right?

00:54:50.000 Okay, well, Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh are saying PhDs are the most hesitant group.

00:54:55.000 They're also academics, and I want to know why they feel that way.

00:54:59.000 I'm not going to scream at them, insult them, and deride them.

00:55:02.000 And I'm also, I'm not trying to be mad at Phil either.

00:55:04.000 I'm just hoping people kind of chill out, and we can have real conversations again.

00:55:08.000 You know what we did with Charlie Kirk and Vosch?

00:55:09.000 I thought it was incredible.

00:55:11.000 And there's a photo of all of us, we're all just standing together and everything.

00:55:14.000 And I'm like, look at that, man.

00:55:15.000 You know, they come here, they meet, they laugh, they made points.

00:55:18.000 They don't agree with each other at all.

00:55:20.000 But at least we can have something where we can sit down and be cordial.

00:55:22.000 Twitter is a nightmare.

00:55:24.000 We should just... You know what?

00:55:25.000 I'm for one regulation right now.

00:55:27.000 Ban Twitter.

00:55:27.000 Just go and get rid of it.

00:55:28.000 It's text.

00:55:29.000 Communicating in text. 0.94

00:55:30.000 That's where all this dumb miscommunication seems to be stemming from. 0.89

00:55:34.000 But where's the anger coming from, dude? 0.91

00:55:36.000 From like the lack of emotional...

00:55:39.000 Interaction like when it's all text when I catch something on a wall and then you walk in and look at the wall We're not having that emotional connection.

00:55:45.000 And so you know where the anger why build I write tweets all the time I'll write a tweet and then I'll delete it.

00:55:52.000 Yeah, I did that Do it like seven times a day.

00:55:55.000 I'm like, here's how I feel and I don't need to share that.

00:55:57.000 Yeah I kind of should have done that the other day Why what did you tweet?

00:56:02.000 I tweeted about how New York City's vaccine passports are a total disaster and I'm definitely going to leave New York. 1.00

00:56:08.000 I still have not.

00:56:09.000 People are like, oh, let me have your apartment.

00:56:12.000 And I'm like, girl, the joke's on you.

00:56:14.000 That was Dana Schwartz.

00:56:17.000 I was a couple of people.

00:56:19.000 But no, it doesn't get good light, and it's not in a neighborhood you want to live in.

00:56:22.000 What neighborhood?

00:56:23.000 I'm not going to say where I live.

00:56:24.000 The funniest thing about it was the comments were all calling you an anti-vaxxer.

00:56:27.000 exports were wrong and then it actually made it to the front page of reddit are

00:56:30.000 slash all the funniest thing about it was the comments were all

00:56:33.000 calling you an anti vexer

00:56:35.000 for hits and it's like you you're you're back yet I'm vaccinated.

00:56:38.000 See, that's the thing.

00:56:40.000 This is the tribalism.

00:56:42.000 The point is that that's my choice.

00:56:45.000 Nobody should have to show their medical status in order to move freely about society.

00:56:50.000 It's insanity.

00:56:51.000 And their ID?

00:56:51.000 And their ID.

00:56:52.000 Show your papers?

00:56:53.000 We should have a right to live anonymously in our cities, for God's sake.

00:56:58.000 Well, it's not only that, it's that how many times have we heard showing your papers was the wrong thing, that we should never have the authority demanding papers from people going about their business.

00:57:05.000 But you have to watch saying anything about that, too.

00:57:07.000 I mean, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene comparing, you know, vaccine passports and mandates and things like that to Third Reich things, and she gets totally slammed for it.

00:57:18.000 So, I mean, you can't... There's also this thing where you can't make comparisons to historical realities.

00:57:24.000 This is the perfect example of tribalism. 0.98

00:57:29.000 The fact that when they see your post saying, like, we shouldn't mandate this stuff, the response is, anti-vaxxers are so dumb, even though you are vaccinated. 0.99

00:57:36.000 It shows that they don't care about reality. 0.98

00:57:39.000 It's the other.

00:57:40.000 You know what I just watched the other day?

00:57:42.000 Have you guys seen Electric Dreams?

00:57:44.000 No.

00:57:44.000 It's on Amazon.

00:57:45.000 It's the Philip K. Dick shorts or whatever.

00:57:48.000 Dude, you guys got to watch the 10th, the final episode.

00:57:51.000 I think it's episode 10, might be episode 8, I don't know.

00:57:54.000 It is about this guy, and it's like in the near future, I guess, and there's one candidate left in the race, and so you vote to affirm the president, and then this female candidate, and she's being interviewed, and she abruptly says, kill all others, and then changes the subject to education real quickly, and then the interviewer is like, I can't believe you would say something like that, about education, and then this guy's like, wait, what?

00:58:18.000 She just said, kill all others.

00:58:19.000 Why isn't anybody talking about this? 0.92

00:58:20.000 And he gets his wife and she's like, what are you talking about?

00:58:22.000 I don't care.

00:58:23.000 He goes to work and he's telling all his friends.

00:58:24.000 And they're like, man, who cares about politics?

00:58:26.000 Right. 0.98

00:58:27.000 Then a few days later, there's a billboard that says, kill all others. 0.96

00:58:29.000 And there's a person hanging from a noose.

00:58:32.000 And then they're like, oh, it's just politics, man.

00:58:34.000 It's a gimmick. 0.58

00:58:35.000 It's a dummy.

00:58:36.000 And so this guy keeps coming out and saying, like, why are you doing this?

00:58:39.000 Why are you advocating for this?

00:58:41.000 And the people go, what are you?

00:58:43.000 An other?

00:58:44.000 Why are you defending them?

00:58:45.000 He's an other! 0.51

00:58:46.000 And that's how you identify yourself.

00:58:48.000 It was a brilliant episode, and the gist of it is basically, the authority makes a declaration.

00:58:53.000 If you oppose them, you are the person they're talking about.

00:58:56.000 You're the problem.

00:58:57.000 And that's what's happening now. 0.99

00:58:58.000 If the government says, we're gonna do something abusive and authoritarian, and you say, I don't think you should do that, they say, then you're the Nazi, you're the fascist, you're the anti-vaxxer. 0.98

00:59:05.000 You're the problem. 0.98

00:59:06.000 Yep. 0.96

00:59:07.000 Yeah, it's risky when you're dealing with totalitarian regimes, because if you come out against them, you'll get murdered.

00:59:13.000 But if you Create an alternate path that often can work.

00:59:19.000 It is extremely creepy to me what's happening with everything about how you quite literally have people who last year were anti-vaxxers and we all called them anti-vaxxers.

00:59:31.000 It's hilarious.

00:59:32.000 Right.

00:59:33.000 Like those people who wouldn't get their kids vaccinated against like the measles and so we had like a measles outbreak in California.

00:59:39.000 I'm talking about last year when all of these blue checks were ragging on FDA and the CDC and the big pharma.

00:59:45.000 Oh, you mean like when Kamala Harris was like, I wouldn't trust a Trump vaccine?

00:59:48.000 Yes, and Cuomo, and then all these other personalities.

00:59:51.000 Do you know what's crazy?

00:59:52.000 Can I tell you something?

00:59:53.000 So we wrote about that, the Kamala Harris vaccine thing.

00:59:57.000 We wrote about it at the time, Kamala Harris, as opposed to the Trump vaccine, or whatever it was, some headline.

01:00:04.000 And then recently we wrote about it again.

01:00:06.000 We were like, let's just remind people that she said she wouldn't trust a vaccine, you know, from the... We were fact-checked for that.

01:00:13.000 And it was like, this is what she said.

01:00:16.000 The article was, this is the thing she said. 0.62

01:00:19.000 Do you guys remember this is the thing she said?

01:00:19.000 Right.

01:00:21.000 That's all it was.

01:00:22.000 It was like a blip.

01:00:23.000 It was nothing.

01:00:23.000 It was like 200 words.

01:00:23.000 It was like a...

01:00:28.000 I think it was, was it science feedback maybe?

01:00:32.000 It might have been science feedback.

01:00:33.000 But also the thing, do you remember in the spring, Dr. Senator Rand Paul was talking to Fauci and they did like two segments.

01:00:43.000 There was like a March segment and then a little later and similar questions.

01:00:46.000 So we wrote a story about like, this is what he said in March.

01:00:49.000 This was their conversation in March.

01:00:51.000 This was their conversation in May.

01:00:53.000 We got fact-checked for that for not enough context.

01:00:56.000 We literally wrote down the things the senator said to the doctor.

01:01:00.000 We wrote those things down.

01:01:01.000 Did you see that Facebook?

01:01:02.000 That was missing context.

01:01:03.000 It was literally the conversation.

01:01:05.000 Facebook labeled the CDC fake news?

01:01:09.000 There was a CDC article saying that they were recommending a change in the PCR test to a better test.

01:01:14.000 And then, because of a fact checker, I guess what people were saying was like, aha, this means the test didn't work.

01:01:20.000 And then the fact checker responded to that link saying, that's not true.

01:01:25.000 It did work.

01:01:26.000 It's just a change in methodology.

01:01:27.000 But it automatically applied the fake news tag to all of the posts.

01:01:31.000 That is amazing.

01:01:32.000 That post from the CDC.

01:01:33.000 That is amazing.

01:01:34.000 Because social media knows better.

01:01:36.000 They know what the narrative is.

01:01:38.000 And anything that diverts from the narrative is false.

01:01:41.000 Well, I hope you're ready for this one.

01:01:43.000 We're in for a wild ride.

01:01:45.000 NBC News says mandating vaccines amid a worker shortage could spell trouble for corporate America.

01:01:50.000 It's so hard to find workers now that if you know a certain percentage of your workers are going to quit due to a vaccine mandate, you're not going to disrupt that, said one HR expert.

01:02:01.000 So we're in a labor shortage.

01:02:02.000 We've got 10.1 million job openings and we don't even have that many people available for work.

01:02:09.000 They've said now the ratio of jobs to people is 0.9 down from 1.

01:02:13.000 It used to be like for every one job we had people who weren't looking for work.

01:02:16.000 Now we have more jobs.

01:02:17.000 I guess you could say it's a good thing.

01:02:19.000 It means like people are like, hey, we're open for business.

01:02:21.000 But it's actually a really bad thing.

01:02:21.000 We need employees.

01:02:24.000 It means that the economy won't be able to recover.

01:02:28.000 We don't have the people.

01:02:29.000 Nobody will work.

01:02:31.000 And now that they're doing mask mandates and vaccine mandates and a lot of these businesses, people are going to quit.

01:02:35.000 It's going to get worse.

01:02:37.000 And also, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to go to work and dehumanize, be dehumanized and dehumanize the people around me.

01:02:43.000 I wouldn't want to do that either, especially, you know, when I buy a $300 cheeseburger.

01:02:47.000 That's right.

01:02:47.000 If inflation gets to those levels, then you can have your $300 cheeseburger.

01:02:50.000 You know what I really love?

01:02:52.000 I made a point where I said, when we had John Schnatter on the show, Papa John, he mentioned in the member segment that he knows a pizzeria where they're paying $35 an hour for people to make pizzas, which is unheard of.

01:03:03.000 That's insane, yeah.

01:03:04.000 And then I was like, okay, so enjoy your $50 pizza.

01:03:07.000 And then I get all these people being like, Tim, in Sweden, cheeseburgers are still only $5 and they have- Sweden is like one of the largest weapons exporters per capita.

01:03:17.000 Don't come to me and talk to me about what's sustaining their economy, okay?

01:03:20.000 I'm not saying that quite literally overnight your pizza's gonna cost $50 because they're paying $35 an hour right now.

01:03:26.000 What I'm saying is, sure, at a store with massive volume, where they're doing hundreds of cheeseburgers per hour, they can accommodate higher salaries and wages, and they should, absolutely.

01:03:36.000 McDonald's and Burger King, all these places, they should pay more, they have massive profits, same is true for Walmart.

01:03:40.000 But when it comes to a small mom-and-pop pizzeria, if you've got to pay someone $35 an hour, how many pizzas are you making per hour?

01:03:46.000 That's a 50% increase in labor costs. 0.97

01:03:49.000 Yes, your pizza's gonna go from $12 to $14.

01:03:51.000 And then people are like, ah, it's only two bucks, who cares?

01:03:54.000 I'm willing to pay that.

01:03:55.000 If it means that people are gonna have better salaries, right?

01:03:58.000 And better wages.

01:03:59.000 Health insurance.

01:04:00.000 And health insurance.

01:04:01.000 Sure.

01:04:01.000 I mean, people deserve health insurance.

01:04:03.000 I think the bigger problem is that health insurance shouldn't come from employers.

01:04:05.000 Right.

01:04:06.000 We need to find a solution to that.

01:04:07.000 That makes no sense.

01:04:08.000 But the issue ultimately is that it ripples throughout the entire economy.

01:04:12.000 It's not about the one pizza costing 14 bucks for you right now.

01:04:15.000 It's that the guy who can't feed his family because it's too expensive now asks his boss for a raise and it goes up across the board.

01:04:21.000 Yeah, it does.

01:04:22.000 Yeah.

01:04:22.000 Well, that's inflation.

01:04:24.000 That's the problem with it.

01:04:25.000 Well, so this is the these mandates where people don't realize is that people are going to leave cities.

01:04:25.000 Yeah.

01:04:29.000 They're going to quit their jobs.

01:04:31.000 It's going to make the economies worse in all of our big cities. 0.68

01:04:34.000 Maybe.

01:04:34.000 Yeah, no, it is going to make.

01:04:35.000 I mean, I'm not going to go anywhere that requires me to show paperwork in order to enter.

01:04:39.000 I specifically absolutely will not.

01:04:41.000 I'm going to make it impossible for me to do that.

01:04:43.000 I'm going to, like, destroy my vaccine card so that I can't, you know, I can't even give in, you know, there's something they ought to like.

01:04:50.000 Let's all lose them.

01:04:51.000 There was a video in Italy.

01:04:52.000 They're burning their their passes.

01:04:55.000 As well they should.

01:04:56.000 Vosh said this on the show and I thought it was a really good point because I hadn't considered it.

01:04:59.000 He said the problem with vaccine mandates for like New York for instance that a lot of people already lost their cards.

01:05:04.000 Yeah.

01:05:05.000 It didn't fit in your wallet.

01:05:05.000 It was too big.

01:05:06.000 They didn't know what to do with it and they lost it.

01:05:08.000 Plus nobody cares.

01:05:08.000 Like I got vaccinated and that's done now.

01:05:11.000 The other thing, too, is they kept saying they weren't going to do it.

01:05:13.000 So people were like, OK, I guess I don't need this.

01:05:15.000 Well, the federal government promised.

01:05:16.000 They said it over and over again.

01:05:17.000 I mean, you had Jen Psaki in the briefing room being asked this question over and over.

01:05:22.000 Are there going to be federal vaccine passports?

01:05:24.000 And no, we're not going to have a vaccine credential.

01:05:27.000 We're not going to do that.

01:05:28.000 Absolutely will not.

01:05:29.000 We will work with businesses who intend to do that and make sure that they do that in the appropriate way.

01:05:34.000 There will not be a federal credential.

01:05:36.000 Uh, even if there's not a federal credential, there should be a disallowance of any sort of credential that mandates that.

01:05:43.000 That should just not even be allowed.

01:05:45.000 What was that meme?

01:05:46.000 Um, I think, who mentioned it?

01:05:48.000 It was like a whole lot of people who, uh, what was it?

01:05:53.000 Oh man, I'm forgetting it.

01:05:54.000 I just forgot it.

01:05:54.000 It was on the tip of my tongue.

01:05:55.000 It was like a whole bunch of people who were like anti-fascist are now show me your papers.

01:05:59.000 Oh yeah.

01:06:00.000 Something like that.

01:06:00.000 Quick switch from anti-fascist.

01:06:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:03.000 Last year it was like oppose the dictator.

01:06:05.000 Now it's show me your papers.

01:06:06.000 Isn't that funny how that works?

01:06:08.000 The interesting thing too with Trump is when you ask people what were some of his authoritarian fascist policies, they can't actually name any.

01:06:15.000 It was just resist the individual that you really, really think is over the top and obnoxious.

01:06:20.000 Did you see Ben Shapiro on Bill Maher?

01:06:23.000 So one of the things that Bill Maher said when he mentions Ben Shapiro's book— And I talked to him last week.

01:06:23.000 Yeah.

01:06:27.000 I did an interview with Ben Shapiro.

01:06:28.000 It was interesting, yeah.

01:06:29.000 He has The Authoritarian Moment, his new book.

01:06:31.000 And Bill Maher was like, I thought you were going to talk about Trump.

01:06:33.000 And I'm like, please, tell me, Trump, what?

01:06:36.000 We can talk about war and foreign policy, because that's what every president's been doing, and I'll agree with you there for sure.

01:06:41.000 But Trump did a whole lot of nothing in a lot of ways.

01:06:43.000 Yes, that's correct.

01:06:44.000 He didn't shut down the riots.

01:06:45.000 He wagged his finger and said, oh, the radical left, and then didn't do anything.

01:06:49.000 That's a really good impression.

01:06:52.000 So they call him an authoritarian and I'm like, for what?

01:06:54.000 Why?

01:06:55.000 Yeah, there's no, there's nothing to back it up.

01:06:57.000 It's just a word that is used for someone you don't like.

01:07:00.000 It's the other.

01:07:01.000 It's that other thing.

01:07:02.000 I guess the idea, the one thing I could say is the people who are willing to believe, like just follow Trump, no matter what Trump said, But that wasn't the majority of conservatives.

01:07:12.000 Conservatives, like the Republicans, the people who voted for Trump, were more than willing to criticize him

01:07:16.000 as evidenced by the fact that you actually have this weird agreement, like,

01:07:20.000 independent voters and Republicans are leaning in the same direction right now.

01:07:24.000 Clearly, independents, people who probably vote Libertarian and third party, aren't Republicans.

01:07:29.000 But they all recognize the economy is not good.

01:07:33.000 But for some reason the Democrats... You wanna know what authoritarian is?

01:07:36.000 Authoritarian is when the economy is in flames.

01:07:39.000 Nobody's working.

01:07:40.000 Massive job openings.

01:07:42.000 We've got warnings from our mainstream media saying this is gonna get worse because of the mandates.

01:07:47.000 And the Democrats being like, I think the economy's going great.

01:07:50.000 Fairly good.

01:07:51.000 I get confused when you say the Democrats.

01:07:53.000 Do you mean the politicians or the people that are registered?

01:07:56.000 Specifically, I'm referring to a poll which says Democratic voters believe the economy is doing good.

01:08:02.000 So they're not Democrats.

01:08:03.000 They are.

01:08:05.000 Only the politicians are considered Democrats.

01:08:07.000 The voters are just people.

01:08:08.000 They're not Democrats or Republicans.

01:08:10.000 So the way the polling works, it asks you which party you're affiliated with. 1.00

01:08:12.000 That's confusing, because when you say the Democratic Party's full of idiots, I think of Congress. 0.99

01:08:18.000 In a lot of ways, I agree with you, but the people that register as Democrats, I don't want to put them in that ballpark. 0.99

01:08:25.000 They're the ones who are doing this voting.

01:08:25.000 But they are.

01:08:27.000 I've registered Democrat for like 20 years.

01:08:29.000 I'm a registered Democrat, yeah.

01:08:29.000 Oh, you're a registered Democrat?

01:08:31.000 Yeah, you're not a Democrat, though.

01:08:32.000 You're registered to vote for that party.

01:08:34.000 Is the economy doing good?

01:08:35.000 No, it's terrible.

01:08:36.000 Why is it then that independent voters and Republicans recognize that, but Democratic voters think the economy is doing good?

01:08:43.000 Because they watch MSNBC, and I think Libby pointed that out earlier.

01:08:46.000 That's what it means when they say, Rachel Maddow, they identify as Democrats.

01:08:50.000 They all believe the same thing.

01:08:52.000 Whatever the authority tells them, they follow.

01:08:54.000 That's authoritarianism.

01:08:55.000 The Fleming mindset.

01:08:57.000 That's authoritarianism.

01:08:58.000 Strict adherence to what the authority tells you.

01:08:59.000 It's like Micah Brzezinski said, it's hard to tell you what to think, remember?

01:09:03.000 It's the narrative.

01:09:04.000 I mean, that's what everybody is fighting over.

01:09:07.000 And media, too, that's what everyone is fighting over.

01:09:11.000 There's like two stories that are being told, and the media is arguing over which story is the accurate story.

01:09:18.000 And people aren't wanting to just put out facts and say, this is the thing that happened.

01:09:22.000 This is the thing that this person said.

01:09:24.000 I don't think the media is doing that.

01:09:27.000 You don't think that the media is like intentionally skewing towards a specific narrative?

01:09:27.000 You don't think so?

01:09:31.000 They are, but what you said was something more specific.

01:09:35.000 What I'm saying is they're not trying... What the media is doing is they're saying whatever at the time will benefit them politically.

01:09:42.000 That's all they're doing.

01:09:43.000 They're opportunistic.

01:09:44.000 They're not talking about making anyone here to Yes.

01:09:48.000 And the problem, the authoritarianism comes from the people who are like, oh, Rachel Maddow said the other day that she doesn't trust vaccines, but today she says she does, so I guess I will too.

01:09:58.000 That's authoritarianism.

01:09:59.000 Rachel Maddow said so.

01:10:00.000 Don Lemon said so.

01:10:01.000 Let's just do whatever they say.

01:10:05.000 Meanwhile, you have regular people who are like, dude, look, I vote Republican for the first time, you know, in Donald Trump.

01:10:12.000 I voted for Obama before him.

01:10:14.000 In 2020.

01:10:14.000 Yeah, the... I don't want to vote for... I wouldn't vote for Trump again, probably.

01:10:19.000 You would not vote for Trump again?

01:10:20.000 No, I think DeSantis is the better choice.

01:10:22.000 But to be completely honest, I'd rather have a Dave Smith.

01:10:25.000 Although I recognize the Libertarian Party's...

01:10:28.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 I think he's a pretty interesting guy.

01:10:30.000 I think he has actual ideas.

01:10:31.000 We'll see how things play out.

01:10:32.000 I really, really despise the idea of voting against the Democrats or voting against the

01:10:38.000 Republicans.

01:10:39.000 Yeah.

01:10:40.000 But I think DeSantis has done fairly well.

01:10:41.000 I think he's a pretty interesting guy.

01:10:42.000 Yeah.

01:10:43.000 So we'll see.

01:10:44.000 I think he has actual ideas, which is unusual.

01:10:45.000 If Trump comes on here and talks about fusion, then I will fully support him.

01:10:52.000 Really?

01:10:52.000 Yeah, if he keeps doing 20th century technology, I got nothing.

01:10:57.000 I think Trump has shown us that, look, he may have been the Molotov cocktail in the machine, he may have been the bowl in the china shop. 0.99

01:11:04.000 We gotta oil that, man.

01:11:07.000 But he made so many mistakes.

01:11:10.000 He should have fired a ton more people.

01:11:12.000 But I think a lot of people saw Trump as just an opportunity for something outside the establishment.

01:11:16.000 That's disturbing, because that leads to authoritarianism.

01:11:18.000 No, it doesn't.

01:11:18.000 Yeah, the authoritarian crackback is against that authoritarian mindset of like, I love this guy, he's gonna just break it.

01:11:25.000 I don't know about that.

01:11:26.000 I don't think it was blind following of Trump, right?

01:11:27.000 And I was opposed to Trump in 2016.

01:11:28.000 I definitely was not in favor.

01:11:29.000 I don't think it was blind following of Trump, right?

01:11:33.000 And I was opposed to Trump in 2016.

01:11:36.000 I definitely was not in favor. 1.00

01:11:38.000 You know, I went to the Women's March, whatever, stupid. 0.99

01:11:44.000 But I think that what you had at the time when Trump was elected were, you know, half 0.99

01:11:49.000 of the population did not see their views or their values reflected in any aspect of

01:11:55.000 American culture or political life.

01:11:58.000 Not in arts, academia, entertainment, anywhere.

01:12:01.000 Not in media.

01:12:02.000 So when Trump came along and was like, hey, 75 million people who don't see your values or views reflected anywhere in the country in literally anything you're capable of subscribing to.

01:12:15.000 I'm over here.

01:12:16.000 I can listen to you.

01:12:17.000 I can give voice to you.

01:12:19.000 Like that's sort of what he was about.

01:12:19.000 Right.

01:12:21.000 He was like a figure that was able to do that.

01:12:24.000 So when he was taken away.

01:12:26.000 Right.

01:12:26.000 Those people are back to having absolutely no voice.

01:12:29.000 Only now they're thoroughly publicly vilified.

01:12:32.000 As opposed to just being vilified, which they were previously.

01:12:34.000 And Ian, you were describing more so anarchy than authoritarianism.

01:12:38.000 If someone says, I will not adhere to the authority structure,

01:12:42.000 and I will put in place someone who is chaotic and destructive to that system,

01:12:45.000 that is anti-authoritarian.

01:12:46.000 A lot of people, as Michael Moore explained, were looking at the human Molotov cocktail, the biggest F

01:12:52.000 you to the machine.

01:12:53.000 They hated the authority.

01:12:55.000 They hate the establishment.

01:12:57.000 So they didn't support Trump.

01:12:58.000 Some people were zealots for Trump, no joke.

01:13:01.000 Whatever Trump would say, they'd be like, yes, and they'd believe crazy things.

01:13:03.000 But that's a smaller element.

01:13:06.000 Most people were just like, we need something as a wedge in the door.

01:13:10.000 Something that's gonna get us off this broken path.

01:13:13.000 Now for me, I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.

01:13:15.000 I was like, I don't care about either of those people.

01:13:17.000 And then in 2020, Trump put out his agenda with school choice on it, the opposition to critical race-applied principles, things like that.

01:13:23.000 He said he was actively working to get our troops out of Afghanistan, and I was like, that right there, right? 0.99

01:13:28.000 Get the troops home, end this stuff.

01:13:30.000 Okay, I'll vote for that.

01:13:31.000 Plus, Joe Biden's insane, right? 0.87

01:13:32.000 That's a terrible idea.

01:13:34.000 Moving forward, that was very much like a rock and a hard place when we were looking at 2020.

01:13:39.000 It's getting bad now, and so I think DeSantis is great.

01:13:43.000 He's like Trump in a lot of ways, but he's not a bombast.

01:13:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:47.000 So of course the media will go after him and try to vilify him, but he's more tactful.

01:13:52.000 He's half the age of Trump.

01:13:53.000 He doesn't appear to be a narcissist either, which I respect.

01:13:57.000 I don't agree with a lot of his positions, and so I'm not saying I would vote for the guy.

01:14:00.000 I'm just saying I probably would not support Trump, considering we've learned our lessons and we have an opportunity for, you know, someone else.

01:14:07.000 That being said, I've never been a big fan of the two-party system.

01:14:09.000 Like I said, I didn't vote in 2012 or 2016, and 2020 was only because it was just a crazy time, to be completely honest.

01:14:18.000 And now I'm like, it may get crazier.

01:14:19.000 It probably will.

01:14:21.000 We're in the lull year where there's no elections, so things are calm.

01:14:24.000 Views and ratings are a little low.

01:14:25.000 Everyone's kind of chilling out.

01:14:26.000 Midterms next year.

01:14:27.000 It's going to be insane.

01:14:28.000 What do you think?

01:14:29.000 Do you think, uh, do you think the GOP have a chance to take the house?

01:14:33.000 I think they will take it.

01:14:34.000 You think so?

01:14:35.000 There's a long way to go.

01:14:36.000 There's a lot of people running.

01:14:37.000 It's really fascinating to like see all of these, uh, what's the new term?

01:14:41.000 America first, America first people running.

01:14:43.000 I kind of, I'm interested to see what, uh, what they have to say for themselves.

01:14:48.000 I think people have learned a lot of lessons, and that means that come 2024, I don't think Trump will be as necessary as people think he was last year or even right now.

01:14:48.000 This is what I'm saying.

01:14:57.000 I think we're already seeing early signs that you've got a DeSantis, perhaps.

01:15:02.000 Again, I'm not a conservative.

01:15:04.000 I don't completely agree.

01:15:05.000 I'd be more inclined to vote Libertarian, and that's only because of Dave Smith.

01:15:09.000 Otherwise, I don't even know who I'd vote for.

01:15:11.000 Yeah.

01:15:11.000 I need some, some like technology talk from Dave.

01:15:15.000 Otherwise, I can't get on with like the whole break it down concept.

01:15:18.000 Like I've been listening to him lately a little bit, but he's been like, yeah, we need to undo this and undo that.

01:15:22.000 And I'm like, okay, give me, what are we going to do?

01:15:25.000 What's next?

01:15:26.000 And I think here's the difference, like technology board or something.

01:15:29.000 I'm down, Dave.

01:15:30.000 And absolutely.

01:15:30.000 Let's do this.

01:15:31.000 And I think what's inspiring about Dave is that he's a guy you can talk to.

01:15:37.000 He's not out of reach and out of touch and more interested in, you know, the consultants, what they're going to say, what size shoe or color tie or anything like that.

01:15:45.000 That's one of the problems we have with the two-party system, is it's just machine regimented.

01:15:49.000 And Trump kind of broke that in a lot of ways.

01:15:51.000 But back to what you were saying about all these midterm people running, people are learning the lessons.

01:15:55.000 A lot of America first types, a lot of populist types.

01:16:00.000 Right.

01:16:00.000 are now running, and there's a huge opportunity.

01:16:03.000 I think what we saw in 2020, the overperformance in the mid-term, I'm sorry, in Congress of the Republicans, it's going to be, it's going to be even crazier.

01:16:11.000 Because look, this is what happened with Trump in 2016.

01:16:14.000 They, they, they take everything.

01:16:16.000 Trump's voters came out for Trump and the Republicans.

01:16:19.000 But in 2018, Trump's voters did not turn out.

01:16:22.000 This is, this is true.

01:16:23.000 I went through the data years ago.

01:16:25.000 In 2018, Trump's voters were less.

01:16:25.000 In 2018?

01:16:28.000 And so that meant- Oh, for like the midterms.

01:16:28.000 OK.

01:16:30.000 So what happened was in 2016, when Trump's voters came out, they voted down ticket Republican.

01:16:30.000 Yes.

01:16:35.000 But because those people did not come out in 2018, to a certain degree was lost, Republicans ended up losing a lot of seats because of that.

01:16:41.000 That's when we got like AOC and all those guys, right?

01:16:43.000 That's right.

01:16:44.000 And I think 31 seats flipped from Republican to Democrat because without Trump's name on the ticket, the Trump voters, so many Trump voters were first time voters or independent voters.

01:16:53.000 Now we're moving into 2022.

01:16:54.000 I think a lot of people have learned lessons.

01:16:56.000 And Joe Biden was the, the, we'll take whatever we can get to stop Trump.

01:17:01.000 Now they've lost that.

01:17:01.000 Right.

01:17:03.000 They have lost the name Trump as well.

01:17:05.000 So how many regular people are going to come out in 2022 all dancing and cheering saying, and the orange back the back the party that's been doing by that point will have been doing such a poor job of handling this.

01:17:17.000 The whole COVID situation.

01:17:19.000 And that's interesting, too.

01:17:20.000 When you watch the poll numbers dropping, the worse COVID gets and the less control over it the White House can maintain, the more Biden's ratings are going to tank.

01:17:29.000 People are going to want him gone.

01:17:30.000 He staked his whole presidency on solving several crises.

01:17:34.000 And that's why you see, you know, you saw so much with COVID, but that's why they're trying to pivot so hard to climate.

01:17:39.000 They really want to get to climate so that they can tackle the next crisis and be heroes again.

01:17:44.000 When you look at the disdain people had for Trump, and they did.

01:17:48.000 I know a lot of people don't want to believe it, but Trump did increase his voter base by a large number.

01:17:54.000 He had more votes than any sitting president in history, but Biden got more.

01:17:58.000 And I hear from people who like, they don't believe it.

01:18:00.000 And I'm like, dude, I told this- But they're like election fraud people.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, I told this to Steve Bannon. 0.99

01:18:04.000 I know people who are as dumb as a box of rocks, who have no business in politics, and couldn't tell you even the name of the parties who are posting videos going and voting by mail, or who are posting the videos of getting their ballots and voting with them. 0.99

01:18:17.000 And I'm like, listen. 1.00

01:18:19.000 I believe when they say like, why did people vote Biden but not down ballot?

01:18:22.000 I'm like, because they're not political people.

01:18:24.000 They saw the celebrity on TV.

01:18:26.000 The entertainment was shut down for a year.

01:18:28.000 Nobody could go to the movies and they were being, the people were screaming in 0.97

01:18:31.000 their face, Trump is evil.

01:18:32.000 And they're like, ah, and so they just write Biden, send it in. 0.78

01:18:34.000 And the Republicans were able to take a bunch of seats in Congress.

01:18:39.000 Now imagine what's going to happen without the threat of Trump and even the down-ballot votes they did get.

01:18:44.000 It's like, I think Republicans are going to do fairly well.

01:18:47.000 They only need to win, what, like 11 seats?

01:18:49.000 There's a long time between now and then, so I'm not going to make any predictions.

01:18:52.000 I don't know.

01:18:52.000 I just think based on current trajectory, that may be a fair assessment.

01:18:57.000 But don't you think that there's also a chance that the Democrats are going to completely overhaul the voting system?

01:19:03.000 Yes.

01:19:03.000 I mean, if you look in California, Gavin Newsom has his recall election coming up, but California just made it possible.

01:19:09.000 I'm pretty sure that you can print your ballots at home.

01:19:12.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:19:13.000 And then there's a lot of people can come and collect it for you and come and advise you on that

01:19:18.000 and they've done such an incredible job the Democrats of vilifying the

01:19:23.000 different voting integrity laws that have sprung up in what like something like

01:19:28.000 22 States 28 states. Yeah like a whole bunch of states and if

01:19:34.000 you actually you know They say they're Jim Crow and they're exclusionary and

01:19:37.000 discriminatory and all of this stuff And if you actually look at those laws if you take the time

01:19:42.000 to read the laws They don't say what the White House says they say

01:19:48.000 It's not about that.

01:19:48.000 And if you read H.R.

01:19:50.000 1, like I did a deep dive into H.R.

01:19:51.000 1, it's 800 something pages of rules about voting that have absolutely nothing to do with anything other than preventing states from making their own laws.

01:20:02.000 So I looked up the, it's called the Remote Accessible Vote by Mail.

01:20:08.000 Is this the California thing?

01:20:09.000 Yes.

01:20:09.000 You can print your selection, sign the envelope, and then return the printed and signed selections either by mail or dropping it off in a voting location.

01:20:18.000 The selections cannot be returned electronically, so the answer is yes.

01:20:22.000 You can request to vote at home, print out your, here's what it says, you download the application, mark your selections, print their selections, sign the envelope using the envelope provided with the vote by mail ballot, or the voter's own envelope.

01:20:38.000 That is not sketchy at all, you guys.

01:20:40.000 This is from sos.ca.gov.

01:20:43.000 Return the printed and signed selections either by mail or by dropping it off at a voting location.

01:20:47.000 Well, there you go.

01:20:50.000 What?

01:20:50.000 You can now just print out your vote.

01:20:52.000 Ian, this is the opposite of blockchain.

01:20:55.000 Yeah, this is where my nihilism is coming from.

01:20:58.000 It is blatantly obvious that if you have a proprietary voting machine counting votes, it's not secure, and that we have an opportunity to attempt to secure it with a third blockchain.

01:21:08.000 Like, you still do what we're doing, plus a blockchain layer.

01:21:12.000 Literally zero security on the system.

01:21:14.000 That's obvious.

01:21:15.000 It prints out your ballot.

01:21:17.000 How has that not been adopted? 0.99

01:21:18.000 That to me either shows that people are very stupid in general and we're just destined for extinction, or there are nefarious things keeping it from happening, which I think is more likely, which is terrifying. 0.96

01:21:31.000 But how do you solve for that? 0.99

01:21:34.000 Humans crave to be told what to do.

01:21:36.000 They don't want to think for themselves.

01:21:37.000 You see, we're divergent.

01:21:39.000 We're the weirdos who for some reason want to be responsible for ourselves.

01:21:43.000 Everyone else just wants to be gently patted on the back as they rest in the lap of, you know, Daddy Biden.

01:21:48.000 I mean, is it because... It's so terrifying to, like, listen to you say that.

01:21:54.000 Like, is it because people that are truly free are dangerous to society?

01:21:59.000 People who are truly free, I don't think they should be perceived as dangerous.

01:22:03.000 Our country was founded on the idea of the individual having, you know, individual rights superseding group rights. 0.84

01:22:09.000 And it's reversing course now. 0.98

01:22:11.000 Now we're being told that we are idiots and cursed at, you know, by various YouTubers or whatever, because we believe that individual rights supersede group rights. 0.97

01:22:20.000 But obviously that's the only way to ensure that there's equality, is to put the individual's rights first. 0.98

01:22:26.000 You know, what is it with the whole thing about like, you know, it's better that a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be in prison?

01:22:35.000 That's still true.

01:22:37.000 That's still true.

01:22:38.000 You know what I love about that?

01:22:38.000 Franklin took that quote from someone, I don't remember who.

01:22:41.000 Blackstone.

01:22:42.000 Blackstone said it's better that two guilty people.

01:22:44.000 I think it was the original quote was two to one.

01:22:47.000 Are you sure?

01:22:47.000 I think it was the original.

01:22:48.000 It's like a Greek quote.

01:22:49.000 Blackstone's formulation.

01:22:50.000 Is that Greek?

01:22:51.000 No, it's from Blackstone.

01:22:54.000 It's rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

01:22:55.000 Well, the cool thing is that if it is ten, I thought it was two.

01:22:59.000 But if it's ten, then he took a power of ten.

01:23:01.000 He took a magnitude greater.

01:23:02.000 And then Ben Franklin.

01:23:03.000 We should do that again.

01:23:04.000 It's better that a thousand people go through.

01:23:06.000 I agree with you.

01:23:07.000 That's why I oppose cash bail.

01:23:08.000 I think cash bail is wrong.

01:23:10.000 Yeah, rich people buying their way out of jail.

01:23:13.000 It's like indulgences.

01:23:14.000 This is a big issue in New York because crime went up because they ended cash bail, and this is a progressive issue.

01:23:18.000 AOC is very much in favor of ending cash bail, and I completely agree with her.

01:23:22.000 The idea that there's some working class dude who gets arrested and accused of a crime, and then they say, now you're going to sit in jail for two months until your court date, you lose your job, you lose your apartment, your family doesn't know where you are, or things of that nature.

01:23:32.000 It happens to people.

01:23:34.000 Because you didn't have the thousand dollars to pay bail, I think is wrong.

01:23:37.000 What we need is a much speedier court system.

01:23:39.000 I mean, we have such... There was a young man who actually died in prison because he couldn't afford bail and it was over a stolen backpack and he didn't do it.

01:23:46.000 And I think he died in, like, Reichers or something like that.

01:23:49.000 You are innocent until proven guilty.

01:23:51.000 The state should not have the ability to punish you in any way unless it's a violent crime with probable cause and the judge can actually say... What about recidivism?

01:24:02.000 Do you have a...

01:24:04.000 Well, in what capacity?

01:24:04.000 What do you mean?

01:24:05.000 Like, if you're arrested multiple times for violations, for crimes, is there any point at which the state can hold you?

01:24:11.000 Like, there was somebody recently, I think it was like killed people.

01:24:15.000 We want to cover a lot of this stuff.

01:24:18.000 I'm not remembering the story, but like someone was arrested a bunch of times on gun charges, kept being released, kept being released, kept being released.

01:24:24.000 And then, you know, See, that's the promise about the tyranny.

01:24:28.000 If somebody is arrested on a violent crime, and they say, here's the person, your honor, here's our probable cause as to why we believe this person did this, the judge will then say, due to the threat, you are remanded to custody.

01:24:41.000 That makes sense.

01:24:42.000 If it's someone who is a non-violent offender, and this is what the progressives did, I'll tell you what they did wrong, though.

01:24:48.000 When they say, this guy was arrested for shoplifting, and say, what's your probable cause?

01:24:52.000 Well, witnesses say he was shoplifting.

01:24:54.000 That's not good enough.

01:24:55.000 But we're gonna hold him.

01:24:57.000 Cash bail is basically remand.

01:24:57.000 No.

01:24:59.000 Okay?

01:24:59.000 That's not fair to someone who's working class and can't afford it.

01:25:02.000 The problem is, you can't defend yourself.

01:25:05.000 Right.

01:25:05.000 You can't defend yourself.

01:25:06.000 You are not secure in your person.

01:25:08.000 So what happens is there was one guy who like he got he was shoplifting like 30 times.

01:25:12.000 And they kept arresting him and cutting him loose because the end of cash bail.

01:25:12.000 Right.

01:25:15.000 And then he laughed when he's getting arrested.

01:25:17.000 So I guess he said something like, I just keep doing it.

01:25:19.000 You keep letting me go.

01:25:21.000 It's like he was absolutely flouting the rules.

01:25:24.000 He knew what he was doing.

01:25:25.000 See, there's limits.

01:25:25.000 Right.

01:25:27.000 If someone does it multiple times and you're like, Your Honor, this is the third time this person's been arrested.

01:25:30.000 We have numerous witness statements.

01:25:32.000 Here are the statements.

01:25:33.000 The judge can be like, OK, You're not getting out this time, dude.

01:25:36.000 I think we really need a much speedier trial system.

01:25:39.000 How do you do it when you got 13 million people in one city, you know?

01:25:43.000 A court in every corner?

01:25:45.000 What's our 13?

01:25:45.000 13 million?

01:25:46.000 The greater metropolitan area of New York.

01:25:48.000 The people who come into the city and come out.

01:25:49.000 Well, the greater metropolitan area of New York, though, I mean, you don't have, like, all of those people aren't subject to the same courts.

01:25:55.000 No, if the people who come into and out of New York.

01:25:57.000 Oh, I see.

01:25:58.000 So you can live in Jersey and drive into New York for work and then get arrested and then you're in the system.

01:26:02.000 You end up in the tombs, whatever else.

01:26:03.000 Yep, end up in the tombs.

01:26:04.000 What an awful name.

01:26:06.000 It is awful.

01:26:07.000 I remember when a friend of mine was like, he was like, ah, I just spent the whole weekend in the tombs.

01:26:12.000 This is what happens.

01:26:14.000 Police officers know that- Because they arrest you Friday, you can't get out until Monday.

01:26:18.000 Exactly.

01:26:19.000 And that could mean you lose your job.

01:26:21.000 Yep.

01:26:22.000 He didn't have one, so it was okay.

01:26:24.000 I have had friends who have been arrested wrongly on Fridays and then wait until Monday to get out.

01:26:30.000 Insane.

01:26:31.000 Yeah, it's not good.

01:26:31.000 It's crazy.

01:26:32.000 And they lose their jobs.

01:26:33.000 It's like you're two no-call-no-shows over the weekend.

01:26:36.000 It's too important to shut down on the weekends.

01:26:38.000 Yeah, it is.

01:26:38.000 It's insane.

01:26:39.000 And during COVID, a lot of the courts were really backed up.

01:26:42.000 A lot of things just didn't happen.

01:26:43.000 Maybe we need online courts. 1.00

01:26:45.000 I don't know about that.

01:26:46.000 There's that tendency that people won't fight their own, sit at their own neighbors, so maybe we need jurors from elsewhere.

01:26:51.000 The problem with an online court, though, is it removes the... It's like we were talking about earlier with Twitter, right?

01:26:55.000 It's like it removes the emotional aspect.

01:26:58.000 So when you're a judge and you see a defendant in an orange jumpsuit on a closed circuit prison camera, are you really going to look at that guy and see his humanity?

01:27:09.000 With no eye contact?

01:27:10.000 Yeah, there's nothing.

01:27:11.000 There's nothing at all.

01:27:13.000 So you think they'd be more guilty?

01:27:14.000 I think there'd be more guilty.

01:27:15.000 Yeah.

01:27:16.000 I mean, I think that we should have a speedy court system where an accused is brought before a judge, brought before a jury.

01:27:25.000 It shouldn't take like months and months and months.

01:27:27.000 Some of these hearings take so long to get to the hearing.

01:27:30.000 Too many people.

01:27:31.000 Yeah, one of the things that's, it is relatively easier for certain crimes where it's like the cops themselves witness it and they say, you know, we are witnesses, but then there's still agents of the state.

01:27:41.000 So it's very difficult.

01:27:42.000 I don't like the idea that credibility is given to the agents of the state.

01:27:46.000 You know, two people walk into a court.

01:27:48.000 Right.

01:27:48.000 the cop says this guy you know uh... stole a banana and then

01:27:52.000 the guy says no i didn't the cop says yes he did the court just believes the cop

01:27:57.000 you know oh he arrested him and the cops probably telling the truth and the jury just believes the cop

01:28:00.000 this is why- oh and there are of course instances where the police then plant the banana on the guy

01:28:04.000 well but yes but i think the most important thing is that cops can make

01:28:09.000 And so I know a lot of people on the left will be like, cops plant drugs.

01:28:11.000 Oh, we've seen it.

01:28:12.000 That body camera footage where the guy puts the drugs and it's under a rock or something.

01:28:15.000 I don't know what that is.

01:28:17.000 He accidentally turned his camera on when he thought he was turning it off.

01:28:20.000 But more importantly, there's this really famous video on YouTube where a lawyer talks about why you never talk to cops.

01:28:26.000 And he explains that, like, the cop could mishear you and then tell the jury he confessed.

01:28:33.000 And the jury is going to be like, OK, Yeah, that's a rule that I grew up with, which is don't ever talk to cops about anything ever.

01:28:40.000 Anything ever. 0.94

01:28:40.000 If you're ever arrested, shut up. 0.94

01:28:43.000 Yeah, just shut up. 1.00

01:28:43.000 Anything ever. 1.00

01:28:44.000 Because you never know if you are the suspect.

01:28:46.000 And people are like, oh, but if you're just a witness, you didn't do anything wrong.

01:28:48.000 And that's what happens too.

01:28:49.000 Well, you don't know that.

01:28:50.000 That's a thing too.

01:28:50.000 Like, you know, in terms of calling police officers for some reason, if there's something going on, you have to be really careful with that because cops show up and they don't know who is who.

01:29:00.000 Right.

01:29:01.000 And so immediately they assume, you know, they can make these assumptions.

01:29:04.000 It's a difficult job.

01:29:06.000 Yeah.

01:29:06.000 And we're losing cops constantly.

01:29:09.000 Well, you know, I feel about that.

01:29:10.000 I'm not going to stand for the cops who are enforcing the lockdowns and mandates and arresting salon owners and letting Antifa go.

01:29:18.000 So there was a woman in Minnesota.

01:29:22.000 She opened her cafe in defiance of the lockdowns and said, you know, screw off. 1.00

01:29:28.000 And the sheriffs went and they tracked her down and they arrested her. 0.99

01:29:30.000 Was this the bar owner?

01:29:31.000 And she, like, had a couple of kids and she was trying to I don't have any respect for officers who are imposing and enforcing lockdowns either. 0.95

01:29:42.000 Look what's going on in Australia.

01:29:44.000 What happened to Australia?

01:29:46.000 Got colonized by the British. 0.90

01:29:46.000 Oh man. 0.90

01:29:47.000 It's crazy.

01:29:48.000 There was apparently some story about a lady who couldn't even cross over from like one state to the next. 1.00

01:29:52.000 Right.

01:29:53.000 Like they've actually locked their states down or something.

01:29:54.000 They've locked down everything.

01:29:54.000 That's correct.

01:29:56.000 That just seems insane to me.

01:29:57.000 They've been telling me that it's different areas too.

01:29:59.000 It's very different from area to area.

01:30:01.000 Right.

01:30:02.000 But how do you stand for that?

01:30:03.000 Like how do you look at a police force and say like, yes, I will stay in my home.

01:30:07.000 One man who was 86 years old died.

01:30:10.000 So 900,000 people have to get locked in their homes.

01:30:13.000 It was literally one guy.

01:30:14.000 Very old.

01:30:15.000 Very old guy who, you know, probably died with COVID.

01:30:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:20.000 I think this was in Secaucus, I could be wrong.

01:30:22.000 A woman was, she had a shop, and they locked everything down. 1.00

01:30:27.000 The government ordered all businesses to be closed.

01:30:30.000 So she went on Facebook Live and started filming what she had in her store, saying, if anybody

01:30:34.000 wants to buy anything, just comment below.

01:30:36.000 So the cops showed up, knocked on the door, and they said, ma'am, you need to close your shop. 1.00

01:30:39.000 And she said, what are you talking about?

01:30:41.000 We are closed.

01:30:42.000 And they're like, no, ma'am, you are trying to sell things online.

01:30:44.000 You have to shut your shop down.

01:30:46.000 Why can't you sell things online?

01:30:47.000 Only eBay's allowed to sell things online?

01:30:47.000 What about eBay?

01:30:49.000 Whatever was going on was not about COVID because the cops came and told her to stop live streaming on Facebook.

01:30:55.000 Yep.

01:30:55.000 That's insanity.

01:30:57.000 Where was that?

01:30:58.000 Secaucus, New Jersey?

01:30:59.000 I think that's where it was.

01:31:00.000 I have to look it up.

01:31:01.000 It was somewhere in North Jersey.

01:31:02.000 That sounds like a New Jersey thing to have happen.

01:31:04.000 Yeah, it really does.

01:31:05.000 And I'm sure it's not the only place.

01:31:07.000 We saw that they were letting people out of jail and then they were putting that salon owner in Texas in jail.

01:31:14.000 Yeah, and she was very forthright.

01:31:16.000 She was like, I have people who work for me, and I don't want them to lose their homes.

01:31:19.000 I told my mom I was thinking about leaving New York.

01:31:22.000 I was like, I don't think I can make this work anymore, Mom.

01:31:25.000 And she was like, just move to Jersey.

01:31:26.000 I was like, no, Mom, that's the same place!

01:31:29.000 It's literally the same place. 0.98

01:31:31.000 It's like stinky New York. 0.98

01:31:32.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:31:32.000 True. 0.98

01:31:35.000 I don't know, man.

01:31:36.000 I don't know about what people in cities should do.

01:31:39.000 I can't predict the future.

01:31:40.000 I do think it'll just start getting worse, I think.

01:31:42.000 Really?

01:31:43.000 Definitely.

01:31:44.000 That's the interesting thing.

01:31:45.000 It's like, where can you go?

01:31:46.000 I was talking to Ben Shapiro about this, because I was like, what happens when People, you know, he was calling it like the big sort, you know, like there's going to be a big sort out.

01:31:56.000 Like, will it eventually overtake the entire country?

01:31:56.000 What happens?

01:32:00.000 Is there anywhere that's going to be all right to live?

01:32:03.000 And just like live like a free person?

01:32:05.000 And that's the other thing too.

01:32:06.000 It's like, is there going to be an Amazon for people who don't want to support Jeff Bezos's crazy empire?

01:32:12.000 I hope so.

01:32:13.000 Did you see the polling showing that, um, I think it's 37.2% of Americans want their region to separate from the U.S.

01:32:19.000 to form its own regional union?

01:32:20.000 Really?

01:32:21.000 Which regions won out?

01:32:22.000 Does New England win out?

01:32:23.000 Yes.

01:32:25.000 But they're all but a third.

01:32:26.000 They'll be crazy there.

01:32:27.000 They broke up the country into five regions.

01:32:29.000 You've got the Pacific region.

01:32:31.000 You've got, I think, the Heartland region, the Mountain region, the Southern and the Northeast.

01:32:35.000 And the plurality in terms of... I should phrase this better.

01:32:42.000 On the West Coast, Pacific region, Democrats were the largest group that wanted to secede from the Union.

01:32:46.000 In the South, it was Republicans.

01:32:48.000 In the Midwest, it's independent voters.

01:32:50.000 Okay.

01:32:51.000 But the overall average among all regions, when I actually went through the math, I went through the population of each state, normalized for population, 37.2% of people in this country are in favor of their area breaking off from the U.S.

01:33:02.000 With the Great Sort, you are going to see those numbers dramatically increase.

01:33:06.000 Right.

01:33:06.000 Because the people in the Pacific region, the 30% of Republicans who are there and want to break off, will move to Texas and bolster the Republican number there and increase it.

01:33:15.000 I think 60% of Southern Republicans wanted to break away.

01:33:18.000 I think that's like, I want though, like I want to eat cake every day.

01:33:21.000 Like they don't really want, they don't know what it is they're saying they want.

01:33:25.000 If you want to militarize, you want, you want like a warlike five tribal North American, you know, 21st century, don't, that's how you split it up. 0.67

01:33:33.000 Then we'll all go to fight each other.

01:33:35.000 That'd be crazy.

01:33:35.000 That would be pretty crazy, wouldn't it?

01:33:37.000 Nuclear weapons and tanks.

01:33:39.000 But we wouldn't all have nuclear weapons.

01:33:40.000 We finally can use our tanks somewhere.

01:33:42.000 Wouldn't it basically be like Hawaii would have nuclear weapons? 0.89

01:33:44.000 We wouldn't all have nuclear weapons.

01:33:45.000 Minnesota, I think Minnesota would have nuclear weapons. 0.96

01:33:47.000 And the port cities would be devastated.

01:33:49.000 How many people understand the policies they're voting for?

01:33:52.000 Most of them seem not to.

01:33:53.000 And so when people say... I don't think the politicians read the bills sometimes.

01:33:56.000 You're right, they don't.

01:33:57.000 What was it?

01:33:58.000 The omnibus was wheeled in on a wagon with 5,000 pages and nobody read it?

01:34:02.000 Yeah, the Senate just voted for that bill. 0.97

01:34:04.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.99

01:34:07.000 The Senate was asked recently, wasn't it, to vote for the massive, giant, stupid infrastructure bill before it was written because the House refused to take it up unless the Senate promised that they would pass something that the House drafted. 1.00

01:34:20.000 Come on. 0.98

01:34:21.000 There will be... Ian, here's what'll happen.

01:34:26.000 There will be a certain amount of signatures to get something as a referendum.

01:34:30.000 It'll appear on the ballot in November, and then people will see it, and as we already know, X amount of people in these regions want to secede.

01:34:36.000 So when they're voting, it'll be like, would you like your region to become its own region?

01:34:39.000 They'll go, oh yeah, for sure.

01:34:41.000 And they vote for it.

01:34:41.000 They don't care about the consequences.

01:34:42.000 The other thing, too, is the way that the laws are named.

01:34:45.000 They're named in very obfuscatory ways so that you don't really know what you're voting for.

01:34:51.000 Like the Patriot Act.

01:34:51.000 Right.

01:34:51.000 Yeah.

01:34:53.000 Yeah, the Patriot Act is the opposite of the Patriot Act.

01:34:56.000 Or like H.R.1, they call it, you know, they call it like a For the People Act.

01:35:01.000 It's not at all.

01:35:02.000 It's actually like so overreaching and authoritarian and insane.

01:35:05.000 16 year olds voting.

01:35:06.000 Yes, that's what it has in it.

01:35:07.000 It has like a provision that you have to register people who are under 18 to vote.

01:35:13.000 That's in it.

01:35:13.000 Amazing.

01:35:14.000 Let's go to Super Chats.

01:35:15.000 If you haven't already, smash that like button.

01:35:17.000 Go to TimCast.com, become a member, and you will get a bonus segment coming up later tonight.

01:35:21.000 But for now, smash that like button and we will read these Super Chats.

01:35:25.000 All right, let's see.

01:35:26.000 The crazy one says, should Elon take the Olympic flame to space?

01:35:31.000 Yes.

01:35:31.000 I don't know why.

01:35:32.000 Who cares?

01:35:34.000 All right.

01:35:34.000 Well, I've been telling people... You know what this is?

01:35:35.000 the governor of Washington state mandated all state employees and health care workers

01:35:39.000 get vaccinated by October 18th or lose their jobs.

01:35:42.000 I now have a decision to make get vaccinated or lose my job.

01:35:45.000 Well, I've been telling people, you know, I'm in favor of companies, private companies

01:35:52.000 to a certain degree mandating their employees get vaccinated.

01:35:55.000 So I think, first, scale matters.

01:35:58.000 If it's a company with like 100,000 employees, probably not so much.

01:36:01.000 There's a lot of wide-ranging implications about international law, interstate law, health rights, but small businesses, definitely.

01:36:08.000 They're not even allowed to ask, are they?

01:36:10.000 What's your medical history when you apply for a job?

01:36:10.000 Yeah, they are.

01:36:13.000 But that was and companies are allowed to mandate vaccines, but they assume responsibility for any adverse

01:36:13.000 You are allowed to do that, yes.

01:36:19.000 Events they require if they require some medical intervention, but here's the point

01:36:23.000 First of all when it comes to small business, I don't think the employer or the employee they owe each other anything

01:36:28.000 We have an agreement right? I'm looking for someone to do work. Do you want to do work? Here's my stipulations?

01:36:32.000 No, have a nice day. I don't owe you any money So when small businesses are like here my restrictions, I'm

01:36:37.000 like, okay Well, you know like I'm not gonna tell a small business.

01:36:39.000 They have to hire somebody within certain reasons This is a big moral challenge because I understand there are certain things where I'm like, you shouldn't discriminate on the basis of race or identity.

01:36:48.000 And then, you know, when it comes to vaccines, it's like, well, like now you're telling people they can't discriminate for a certain reason, but ultimately, you know, it ends up happening.

01:36:55.000 The people are now making the hard choice of putting their money where their mouth is.

01:36:59.000 No longer will you be able to sit back and just let everyone else fight your battles for you.

01:37:04.000 That's interesting.

01:37:05.000 Unfortunately.

01:37:06.000 And we've all gotten those emails of like, hey, I really support you, but I'm never going to speak publicly.

01:37:10.000 I know, I get too many.

01:37:11.000 And I probably am not going to talk to you.

01:37:13.000 And the problem is, when I was saying a long time ago, if these people are doing these things, you need to speak up now or forever hold your peace.

01:37:20.000 When it was just critical race applied principles, people were like, nah, I don't got to say anything.

01:37:23.000 Well, now they're telling you to go get an injection.

01:37:28.000 Whether your doctor tells you or not, they have requirements.

01:37:30.000 Now that's between you and your doctor.

01:37:31.000 You go talk to your doctor about what's right for you.

01:37:33.000 But now you have a hard line.

01:37:35.000 Will you comply with medication or not?

01:37:39.000 It was easier when it was CRT.

01:37:41.000 Now, who will cross the line?

01:37:43.000 I gotta be honest, I think most people will.

01:37:45.000 You think most people will cross the line?

01:37:46.000 Definitely.

01:37:46.000 I think there'll be an exodus.

01:37:48.000 I think it will hurt the economy.

01:37:49.000 But I think most people are going to fall back on, I will not stand up.

01:37:54.000 Yeah.

01:37:54.000 Right.

01:37:55.000 I think you'll see more and more people be pushed out.

01:37:57.000 And I think a lot of people don't want to stand up.

01:37:59.000 I think a lot of people just want to be left alone.

01:38:01.000 But they're also not willing to fight for that.

01:38:05.000 So what happens now when they're given this?

01:38:08.000 I mean, look, like I said, with CRT, people are like, I know it's bad, but I can ignore this because it's a long term problem. 0.79

01:38:14.000 Your kids will inherit a trash future. 1.00

01:38:16.000 Okay, I got you. 0.98

01:38:17.000 It's really, I think it's hard to ignore the critical race theory stuff.

01:38:20.000 You know, when your kid comes home saying like, Mom, are we racist because we're white people?

01:38:25.000 No, no, but look, there are certain problems you see with industry like pollution where you're like, we know it's bad, but whatever.

01:38:31.000 And then people keep buying their, you know, products and stuff.

01:38:35.000 Then there's the more immediate where it's like CRT and critical race applied principles in work, in school.

01:38:40.000 And then you're like, okay, this is getting harder to ignore.

01:38:43.000 But what's the worst case scenario?

01:38:45.000 I keep my head down, I'll be okay.

01:38:47.000 Now they're like, sir, we would like you to get a medical procedure.

01:38:50.000 I know, a small one, but still.

01:38:52.000 Now people are going to have to make that choice.

01:38:54.000 Is this the line for them?

01:38:55.000 I think for a lot of people it will be.

01:38:57.000 I think for most people it won't be.

01:38:58.000 There's got to be a line somewhere, though.

01:39:00.000 I mean, we've given up so much.

01:39:01.000 We give up constantly.

01:39:03.000 This is the biggest thing that I've heard from people who are filling my Twitter with hate.

01:39:09.000 But you've given up this already.

01:39:11.000 You have these other restrictions that we've gone along with.

01:39:14.000 Why is this so different?

01:39:16.000 That's a nice way of saying it.

01:39:18.000 Well, it's one step at a time.

01:39:19.000 People accept it.

01:39:20.000 And we clearly shouldn't be constantly capitulating rights after rights.

01:39:25.000 It's just not acceptable.

01:39:26.000 We clearly should have been standing up for this, against this kind of thing a long time ago.

01:39:30.000 And we haven't been.

01:39:30.000 Well, it's the exploitation of goodwill.

01:39:32.000 We thought 15 days to slow the spread was reasonable.

01:39:35.000 And then it became 500, uh, what are we on?

01:39:37.000 It's a lot.

01:39:37.000 570?

01:39:38.000 No, no.

01:39:38.000 It's like 512 or something.

01:39:39.000 515 maybe.

01:39:42.000 It's a lot of days.

01:39:43.000 And it's not working.

01:39:44.000 I mean, that's the thing, too.

01:39:45.000 It's like they constantly, as they enforce these things and throw these things at us, there's this underlying understanding that it's actually helping, that it's actually reducing the virus, that it's actually doing all it did.

01:40:00.000 None of that is actually true.

01:40:02.000 We're going to be living with this virus for the rest of our lives, for the rest of human history, probably, or whatever.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, it's got animal repositories.

01:40:07.000 It's not going away.

01:40:09.000 So we have to figure out how to exist in this reality.

01:40:13.000 We can't just imagine that we're going to completely eradicate it if we just all stay in our houses and stop breathing.

01:40:19.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:40:21.000 Ian Kinney says, Hey Tim, did you see the hit piece segment Cenk Uygur did on you?

01:40:25.000 Lauren Chen made a video about it.

01:40:26.000 No, I don't watch any of those things.

01:40:28.000 It's a waste of time.

01:40:30.000 That's one thing, you know, there's a video made about me every other day.

01:40:34.000 Why should I care if the Young Turks have opinions? 1.00

01:40:36.000 They're not relevant.

01:40:37.000 I look at what's going on with the world, and I just think drama.

01:40:43.000 Oh, Tim Pool did this, that.

01:40:44.000 I don't care.

01:40:45.000 Who cares about me?

01:40:47.000 I guess they do.

01:40:48.000 Whatever.

01:40:49.000 I don't care about me.

01:40:49.000 I care about other stuff.

01:40:51.000 It's the weirdest thing.

01:40:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:40:52.000 Yeah, that's how I feel about politics sometimes.

01:40:54.000 It's like, dude, this human drama that we created, that we're like spinning in this reality.

01:40:58.000 But I care about politics.

01:41:00.000 I kind of do.

01:41:01.000 Like when AOC comes out and lies about what happened in the Capitol.

01:41:04.000 Her whole story is fabricated, by the way, because the time at which the cop came to her door and knocked was a few minutes before the first Trump supporters actually breached the barricades.

01:41:13.000 Really?

01:41:14.000 I missed that part.

01:41:14.000 Yes.

01:41:16.000 Every conservative has.

01:41:17.000 Every critic of AOC has missed this.

01:41:20.000 And no matter how many times I say it, I DMed Ben Shapiro.

01:41:22.000 I was like, we were talking.

01:41:24.000 And then he was like, oh, that's actually a good point.

01:41:25.000 So the cop knocked on her door before they breached the Capitol.

01:41:28.000 Yes.

01:41:28.000 An hour before they breached the Capitol.

01:41:31.000 No one knew.

01:41:31.000 Oh, come on.

01:41:32.000 So AOC comes out and makes this whole thing up.

01:41:36.000 So what was he doing at her door?

01:41:37.000 What was he doing at her door?

01:41:38.000 There was a bomb scare.

01:41:39.000 So totally separately.

01:41:40.000 Oh, that whole other, the bomb thing.

01:41:42.000 Maybe she hid in the bathroom because someone knocked on her door. 0.91

01:41:44.000 That may be true.

01:41:46.000 But for her to conflate that with, I thought they made it to my office when it was an hour before anyone, okay.

01:41:52.000 There's just no timeline to support that.

01:41:55.000 The New York Times did the whole timeline.

01:41:55.000 There is.

01:41:56.000 note to support her claims. Oh right, the New York Times did a whole timeline of it and Reuters did a timeline of

01:42:01.000 what she claimed and for some reason no one put these pieces together. I

01:42:04.000 feel like I'm the only one who's done multiple segments about it.

01:42:07.000 I don't understand why all the conservatives keep coming out and saying,

01:42:10.000 she wasn't even in the building. She never said she was in the building. She never said she was in the Capitol.

01:42:14.000 So I'm like, how come, when I first reported on this, the Huffington Post, a reporter hit me up saying, you're

01:42:21.000 wrong, your timeline's wrong.

01:42:23.000 And then I was like, oh man.

01:42:24.000 So I deleted the tweet.

01:42:25.000 I was like, I must have screwed up.

01:42:27.000 Then I went to the timeline again and I was like, so then I messaged him back and I said, here's the evidence.

01:42:31.000 And he went, oh, I guess I made a mistake.

01:42:32.000 I'm like, that's right.

01:42:34.000 AOC said it was around 1pm when the cop knocked on her door.

01:42:38.000 That was because there was a bomb reported and he was coming.

01:42:41.000 They were given notice.

01:42:42.000 They all had to leave.

01:42:43.000 AOC chose not to for some reason.

01:42:45.000 So the cop had to go get her.

01:42:47.000 For her to then claim she thought the protesters got to her room, the conservatives all respond, but her office wasn't even in the Capitol building.

01:42:55.000 And then the fact check is, Reuters says, false.

01:42:58.000 AOC never claimed she was.

01:43:00.000 She was concerned that they made it through the tunnels.

01:43:03.000 And then I looked at the timeline, I'm like, it was an hour and 11 minutes after the cop showed up at her door that the first doors got breached at the Capitol building.

01:43:11.000 An hour and 11 minutes.

01:43:14.000 No one thought these people were getting in the building.

01:43:16.000 If they did, there would have been more police at the Capitol.

01:43:18.000 And if you think that's not true, then you got a problem with the Capitol Police, because they should... If you think the Capitol Police knew that was going to happen, and AOC knew it was going to happen, why didn't they call for more police?

01:43:28.000 She lied.

01:43:29.000 Anyway, I digress.

01:43:30.000 What did you think of that hearing, that first day of the hearing?

01:43:32.000 Nancy Pelosi's... It's ridiculous. 0.99

01:43:34.000 It was such trash. 1.00

01:43:36.000 It was such theater. 1.00

01:43:37.000 It was insane.

01:43:38.000 Anyway, well, to wrap up that super chat, I think it's funny when people are obsessed with non-political actors to such an extreme degree.

01:43:51.000 Like, I've criticized Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks.

01:43:53.000 He's got a prominent show.

01:43:54.000 Feel free to criticize me.

01:43:56.000 I've got a prominent show.

01:43:57.000 I'm mostly more interested in criticizing politicians and people with more power.

01:44:03.000 The people who are actually changing things.

01:44:05.000 But to be fair, the concern from the left is that the show is very influential, so by all means criticize it.

01:44:10.000 The problem I have is that they don't have real criticism.

01:44:14.000 There's a very serious challenge among the left to try and figure out what's wrong with what it is that I do. 1.00

01:44:19.000 So I don't want to waste time, you know, dealing with watching their stupid garbage where they make stuff up. 1.00

01:44:24.000 What are they going to say? 1.00

01:44:24.000 Well, Tim Pool talks about universal health care and agreeing with it, but then he makes fun of Democrats. 1.00

01:44:29.000 It's like, so does a bunch of leftists.

01:44:31.000 They think you're fear baiting.

01:44:33.000 That's the main concern.

01:44:34.000 Because if you are projecting in the future and like, I think it's going to get worse, It's not that you're saying it's going to get worse, but you're just projecting one possible future that happens to be terrifying.

01:44:43.000 Vosh said I was far right. 0.59

01:44:45.000 They're pissed at you because you're not upholding any specific narrative.

01:44:49.000 I'm telling you, that's what it is.

01:44:50.000 Like, yeah, you're not upholding one narrative or another.

01:44:54.000 You're just actually, you know, doing what you think is right.

01:44:57.000 And nobody really quite understands a person that does that anymore.

01:45:00.000 They really want to call me far right, but I'm literally not.

01:45:04.000 I'm like, I agree with AOC on ending CashBail.

01:45:05.000 CashBail's bad. 1.00

01:45:06.000 They're like, well, you're lying.

01:45:08.000 It's like, I don't know, dude.

01:45:11.000 Make all the hit pieces in the world you want.

01:45:12.000 We got a lot of fun stuff happening here.

01:45:14.000 It was funny when Vosh came and we were talking with him before he came up.

01:45:17.000 We were like, we're doing a bunch of new shows.

01:45:19.000 Dungeons and Dragons, Paranormals and Mysteries.

01:45:23.000 And I think it's funny that like, The company so far has like a political show and then like we're launching totally not political stuff and they're acting like it's the apocalypse.

01:45:31.000 Probably because they realize.

01:45:33.000 Well, that's what's needed.

01:45:34.000 We need culture.

01:45:35.000 We need more culture than just the leftist driven propaganda that we're seeing come out of Hollywood.

01:45:41.000 Yup.

01:45:42.000 Dude, the songs.

01:45:42.000 Yup.

01:45:44.000 I want to talk about it.

01:45:46.000 The songs that we were working on the other night.

01:45:48.000 They're so good.

01:45:50.000 Vocal harmonies.

01:45:51.000 Yeah.

01:45:51.000 That's where it's at.

01:45:52.000 Well, I got a bunch of songs Ian was singing.

01:45:54.000 They're so good.

01:45:55.000 It's just raw recording, so I'm not going to play it live.

01:45:58.000 I have some of that from the musical I wrote about Condoleezza Rice one time.

01:46:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:46:02.000 read some more super chats rant over David James says Ian's shirt is the best

01:46:05.000 that's what I'm saying it's true all right yes all right let's see

01:46:10.000 Computer, solve this.

01:46:13.000 Southern Survival says, I'm a 15-year veteran currently on my fourth tour, and I'm worried about my career being affected by my refusal of the vaccine.

01:46:20.000 The DoD is going to mandate it soon.

01:46:22.000 I just want the liberty I swore to defend.

01:46:24.000 Well, as I always say, get a good doctor.

01:46:28.000 You know, if you don't trust your doctor, you need to get a good one.

01:46:30.000 But my understanding about people in the Army is, don't you get a ton of vaccines the moment you join?

01:46:36.000 Isn't that true?

01:46:37.000 I have no idea.

01:46:38.000 The stories I heard from people is that, like, when you enlist, you go to basic training, they give you a bunch of, like, vaccines.

01:46:43.000 I mean, prepare to be toxified if you're going into the military.

01:46:46.000 They'll put you right next to burn pits, and you'll breathe that smoke 24 hours a day.

01:46:49.000 They put you in a room with tear gas.

01:46:51.000 Yeah.

01:46:53.000 They have burn pits in, I think it's Afghanistan, where they just, all the trash is thrown in as just a 24-7 burn pit, and then when the wind catches it, brings it over the base, everyone has to breathe that.

01:47:03.000 Alright, SuperNeilComic says, I am from Canada and so much want to live in one of the red states like Texas and become a US citizen.

01:47:09.000 I love you guys.

01:47:09.000 Nice.

01:47:10.000 See, everybody wants to come to America. 0.96

01:47:11.000 Everyone wants to move to Texas.

01:47:13.000 Yeah.

01:47:15.000 All right.

01:47:17.000 Waffle.

01:47:17.000 Well, what does that say?

01:47:19.000 Well, I can't read.

01:47:20.000 Wolfdawfulgod.

01:47:21.000 Okay. 0.97

01:47:22.000 As someone who lives in Louisville, the way she pronounced it makes me want to smash my face into a table.

01:47:26.000 I love the word.

01:47:29.000 Louisville.

01:47:30.000 I was like, where's that?

01:47:32.000 I've never been to Kentucky.

01:47:36.000 Wow.

01:47:36.000 Look at this.

01:47:38.000 SEIPower says even North Dakota is being overrun by California and Colorado.

01:47:42.000 Yeah.

01:47:45.000 Almighty Media says, Tim, you should have politicians on, Ted Cruz.

01:47:48.000 Yes, we would have Ted Cruz on.

01:47:49.000 Ted Cruz, come on the show, that'd be amazing.

01:47:53.000 You know, look, here's something, some insight.

01:47:56.000 Like when we first started the show, we would send emails to people and they would just click delete.

01:48:00.000 They don't care, they don't want to come on the show.

01:48:02.000 And then a few months go by, and then people would be like, oh, you know, maybe sometime.

01:48:07.000 And as the show's gotten bigger and more subscribers, all of a sudden now we're getting people emailing us, being like, can we come on your show?

01:48:13.000 So I'm not in the mindset of, like, reaching out to Ted Cruz and asking him to come on the show.

01:48:17.000 But if Ted Cruz wants to come on the show, we'd be like, yeah, absolutely.

01:48:19.000 That'd be fantastic.

01:48:21.000 Granted, I will say, politicians are the worst bookings ever.

01:48:24.000 Why?

01:48:25.000 They always go.

01:48:26.000 So bad.

01:48:27.000 I have politicians following me, and I'll DM them, be like, would you want to come on the show?

01:48:31.000 Absolutely.

01:48:31.000 Email this person.

01:48:32.000 They can handle it.

01:48:33.000 And then you do, and then they don't respond.

01:48:35.000 That's right.

01:48:35.000 And then it just dies.

01:48:36.000 So it's a waste of time.

01:48:37.000 I talked to Ted Cruz last week, and it took a whole bunch of running around like a crazy person to get three minutes or something of his time.

01:48:37.000 Yeah.

01:48:44.000 Yeah, I don't think we're going to get two and a half hours out of these politicians.

01:48:49.000 All right, Aaron Salmon says, Bummer, man.

01:48:51.000 Saw you talking about spiffies. I live about 20 minutes from there. It was an icon of the I-5 corridor.

01:48:56.000 They had a dine-in to protest restrictions. People from Idaho and Cali showed up.

01:49:01.000 There wasn't even standing room to eat. Sad to see them go.

01:49:04.000 Bomber, man. Wow.

01:49:06.000 Capitalism, Entertainment, and Technologies says, calling it now.

01:49:10.000 Tim just heard Country Roads and moved.

01:49:13.000 Also, most of Texas left tends to be libertarian druggie types at the moment.

01:49:17.000 I'm totally cool with those people.

01:49:19.000 That's like Ian, basically.

01:49:19.000 That's legit.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, that's my homies.

01:49:22.000 All in moderation.

01:49:24.000 Even moderation.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:26.000 Well, that's a good point.

01:49:27.000 Dallicourt says, Tim, with all the blue ties rolling into Texas, do you think it'll dilute the liberal influence in the coastal states, allowing for some red winds?

01:49:35.000 No.

01:49:36.000 Because red voters and non-Democrat voters are leaving as well.

01:49:41.000 So you've got conservatives fleeing New York, and you've got conservatives fleeing California, and still.

01:49:48.000 The problem is, the authoritarian lockdowns hurt everybody, Democrats and Republicans.

01:49:53.000 So everybody wants to leave.

01:49:55.000 The problem is the Democrats bring those same policies with them, not caring or realizing.

01:49:59.000 So I do think it could theoretically dilute some of their power and expand congressional seats for conservatives because many of these Democrat voters who leave big cities to the suburbs at the least are spreading out their vote into red-dominated areas.

01:50:12.000 It could flip some red areas blue that are really close.

01:50:16.000 But I think if you've got an area that's like 55% Republican, 45% Democrat, and then some Democrats move out to that suburb, it won't be enough to change.

01:50:25.000 So you don't think any of these Democrats are going to change their minds?

01:50:29.000 Definitely not.

01:50:30.000 You don't think so?

01:50:31.000 I changed my mind.

01:50:32.000 A lot of people changed their minds.

01:50:33.000 I did.

01:50:34.000 I've never really party politics.

01:50:36.000 And it is true that a lot of Democrats bought guns.

01:50:38.000 So perhaps.

01:50:40.000 I looked into trying to buy a gun in New York City.

01:50:42.000 What was that like?

01:50:42.000 Oh, good lord.

01:50:44.000 There were like interviews required.

01:50:46.000 You know, they wanted blood samples.

01:50:48.000 All right, I was wrong about that.

01:50:49.000 People will change their minds.

01:50:51.000 Christopher Brown says, I was far left when I found you in 2018, and you have helped me find my way back to the center.

01:50:51.000 We got this tweet.

01:50:57.000 A few weeks ago, you had on the guys from Fresh End Fit, and they helped me a lot with my depression.

01:51:01.000 If I never found you, I'd be dead right now.

01:51:05.000 Tim, you saved my life.

01:51:06.000 Hey, man, I really appreciate that and the super chat.

01:51:11.000 You know, what's crazy is, I think, going back to those smear pieces, there was one, apparently I'm the most dangerous political commentator, I guess, because the reason is, I'm a moderate.

01:51:23.000 And that's really, really bad for the far left.

01:51:24.000 It's bad for their profits.

01:51:26.000 It creates a real alternative.

01:51:27.000 If you grow up, and you're left liberal, and this is the tribe, and it's the only space you have where you feel safe, And then someone says, well, you can always be a suit wearing Christian conservative.

01:51:37.000 They go, I don't, I don't, that's not me.

01:51:39.000 I don't believe those things.

01:51:39.000 I won't fit in.

01:51:40.000 And then you see rock music, skateboarding, moderates.

01:51:44.000 And that's like, that makes more sense for me.

01:51:46.000 It's creating apostates for the left.

01:51:48.000 It does make more sense.

01:51:49.000 For a lot of people.

01:51:50.000 I mean, it's like you look at a lot of the podcasts that are prominent conservative and they're wearing suits and they're very stodgy and, you know, very businesslike.

01:51:58.000 And, you know, Ian's basically wearing his pajamas.

01:52:01.000 Every day.

01:52:03.000 I bought more pajama pants.

01:52:04.000 I have at least seven pairs now.

01:52:05.000 And look at the shows we're making.

01:52:07.000 D&D and skating and the vlog and the mystery stuff.

01:52:12.000 Dude, the tie is an upside-down noose.

01:52:14.000 Why do people wear those?

01:52:15.000 It's crazy.

01:52:17.000 Someone could just grab it.

01:52:19.000 I wonder what the origin of that is. 0.76

01:52:20.000 What the heck?

01:52:20.000 It's like subservience or something weird.

01:52:23.000 It's probably like law.

01:52:24.000 Quixiquix?

01:52:25.000 Quixiquix says, service guarantees citizenship.

01:52:28.000 Perhaps the way to accomplish this would be to limit the ability for people to vote.

01:52:32.000 They must show gainful employment.

01:52:34.000 Unable to work?

01:52:35.000 There should be other service options available.

01:52:37.000 Support the system to earn a vote.

01:52:39.000 I really do like the idea of service guaranteeing citizenship.

01:52:42.000 It doesn't mean military and it doesn't mean labor.

01:52:45.000 It just means contribute to the community in some discernible way and you vote.

01:52:49.000 What if that's like by getting the vaccine?

01:52:52.000 contribute to the community by getting your inoculation.

01:52:55.000 We would have to set parameters as to what that means.

01:52:57.000 It would be like community service.

01:52:57.000 I know.

01:53:00.000 So community service at your own discretion is literally like going to a community center and being like, do you need any help?

01:53:04.000 And then they sign it for you.

01:53:06.000 And so my high school had that.

01:53:08.000 The high school that I went to and never finished, because I only went there for like two months, they make you do community service before you graduate.

01:53:15.000 At least I'm pretty sure that was the case.

01:53:17.000 I didn't know because I never did it because I left and didn't graduate.

01:53:19.000 I had to do community service for my confirmation hours, but also for my high school.

01:53:24.000 Oh, see, there you go.

01:53:25.000 What did you do?

01:53:27.000 For my confirmation hours, I worked in a soup kitchen.

01:53:30.000 For like, religious confirmation?

01:53:31.000 Yeah.

01:53:32.000 I'm Catholic.

01:53:33.000 Oh, this is really important.

01:53:35.000 Tiny, uh, what does it say?

01:53:37.000 Tiny Timmyall? 0.90

01:53:38.000 Is that how I'm pronouncing it?

01:53:39.000 Tim, given your stance on 2A, would you disarm me, a card-carrying CCL holder, if I were to visit the Cast Castle for one of your public events?

01:53:48.000 Good question, yeah.

01:53:48.000 No.

01:53:49.000 The answer is no.

01:53:50.000 No way.

01:53:51.000 The answer is we're going to have security, and we're going to vet the people who come, and the events aren't going to be that big anyway.

01:53:57.000 And my attitude is, you're right to keep in bear arms.

01:54:02.000 If somebody wanted to come here and hurt me, there's crazy ways you can hurt me or anybody else.

01:54:07.000 So I'm actually not worried.

01:54:09.000 And if someone lets me know that they're armed, that's fantastic.

01:54:12.000 Thank you for letting me know.

01:54:13.000 That's great.

01:54:15.000 I look forward to you defending us in the event that someone does something crazy.

01:54:18.000 People drive cars all the time.

01:54:20.000 They're not running people over.

01:54:21.000 People come here all the time for deliveries and for whatever.

01:54:24.000 They're not running anybody over.

01:54:25.000 They have cars.

01:54:25.000 They have the means to cause harm.

01:54:26.000 They don't do it.

01:54:27.000 I don't view a gun any differently.

01:54:29.000 I don't see like, oh, that guy's got a gun.

01:54:30.000 He's going to attack somebody.

01:54:31.000 I'm like, well, whatever.

01:54:32.000 I got a gun too.

01:54:33.000 So don't draw it, you know.

01:54:36.000 Unless there's a life danger, you know.

01:54:38.000 I don't think there'll be any reason to.

01:54:41.000 Oh, this is important.

01:54:42.000 Martin Edgar says, 23 suite, 50 room, 26,000 square foot lodge in northern Michigan for sale.

01:54:48.000 For a mere $19.5 million on 415 acres with 13 other buildings on the property.

01:54:53.000 Sits on Lake Superior.

01:54:55.000 New vertical launch site beginning to be built nearby.

01:54:58.000 Search for Granoloma.

01:55:03.000 All right.

01:55:03.000 So let's just get 20 million people to put in a dollar, dollar each, or, or, or, each and every one of our subscribers to put in 20 bucks.

01:55:11.000 Oh yeah.

01:55:12.000 And then we'll, uh, we'll procure this here large, massive property and we'll start a city.

01:55:17.000 Let's do it.

01:55:18.000 Not really, but that would be fun, wouldn't it?

01:55:20.000 That'd be so fun.

01:55:21.000 I was looking at Martha's Vineyard properties.

01:55:24.000 That's super expensive.

01:55:25.000 My goodness.

01:55:27.000 They're actually not the most expensive I've seen.

01:55:29.000 What's the most expensive?

01:55:31.000 I mean, like you look at parts of California and Silicon Valley and it's like 20 million, 40 million.

01:55:35.000 Martha's Vineyard had stuff that was like 12 million, but there's a lot of places that are like a million.

01:55:40.000 I like Nantucket better, honestly.

01:55:42.000 Yeah.

01:55:43.000 But then you're like, where do you get your food from?

01:55:44.000 You're like on an island, you know?

01:55:46.000 Yeah, but so is Martha's Vineyard. 1.00

01:55:47.000 No, I know.

01:55:48.000 But like either one of them.

01:55:49.000 I mean, I'm not moving either of those places, but still.

01:55:51.000 That's the craziest thing about it.

01:55:53.000 I can understand getting a mountain fortress in New Zealand, but I can't understand getting a multimillion.

01:55:58.000 Well, no, I take that back.

01:56:00.000 If you're worth a billion dollars, you're going to be like, oh, whatever.

01:56:03.000 It's like it's not a big deal to buy a multimillion dollar property.

01:56:06.000 New Zealand, though. 0.99

01:56:07.000 New Zealand is bad because of Jacinda Ardern is insane. 0.99

01:56:10.000 Yeah, but if you're one of these billionaires, the rules don't apply to you. 0.59

01:56:13.000 I guess you can do whatever you want.

01:56:14.000 Well, as we saw this weekend, right?

01:56:15.000 Because the rules don't apply to Obama or Erykah Badu.

01:56:18.000 They definitely don't.

01:56:20.000 All right.

01:56:21.000 Let's see.

01:56:22.000 Uncle Sam says, earlier segment, you said people were crazy who questioned history being right.

01:56:28.000 I'm not sure I understand.

01:56:28.000 I don't know.

01:56:30.000 I propose looking at dictionaries and the changing definitions yearly.

01:56:33.000 Then think of first edition books.

01:56:35.000 Anything after a change, correct?

01:56:37.000 What are those changes?

01:56:39.000 I talked about something with the third—you know Biden is being accused of violating the Third Amendment?

01:56:44.000 No, what was this?

01:56:45.000 So with the eviction moratorium, there's a group of lawyers who are saying, certainly many of the people who are renting properties are soldiers.

01:56:53.000 And if the government is mandating you can't evict a soldier, that is a violation of the Third Amendment.

01:56:58.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:56:59.000 Yes.

01:57:00.000 And so their argument is the whole thing should be thrown out because there was no consideration given to the idea of how they restrict soldiers.

01:57:08.000 Therefore, the whole thing is bad.

01:57:09.000 But at the very least, the court should say, if you're an active duty soldier or if you are a soldier of the US Armed Forces in any way, you can be evicted, which kind of sucks because of all the people who would be evicted.

01:57:19.000 I don't want them to be evicted.

01:57:21.000 However, the interesting thing is, The agents of the king, who were enforcing a lot of his edicts, were the soldiers.

01:57:28.000 Right.

01:57:29.000 So when the founding fathers were like, soldiers shouldn't be able to go in your house.

01:57:33.000 But that's the Quartering Act, that one?

01:57:35.000 No, Third Amendment?

01:57:36.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 Right, right, right.

01:57:37.000 There was two Quartering Acts.

01:57:38.000 One was in 1774, I believe, and that was like what really set everybody off.

01:57:42.000 Pissed everyone off.

01:57:42.000 Right, yeah.

01:57:43.000 But the real issue, I think, was not that soldiers were occupying homes, but that agents of the state were stealing property from the people.

01:57:49.000 Right.

01:57:50.000 So what the Third Amendment should actually say is, Agents of the government shall not be able to claim, seize, or take property from an American citizen without due process.

01:58:02.000 Civil asset forfeiture, out the window.

01:58:04.000 Third Amendment.

01:58:05.000 But the Third Amendment says no soldiers, you know, during peacetime shall, you know, be quartered in someone's home or during a war without an act of Congress or whatever.

01:58:15.000 About an act of legislation or something.

01:58:17.000 So...

01:58:18.000 The perspective was, in 1774, I think it was, the soldiers would go in your house, take your food, sleep on your bed.

01:58:24.000 Right.

01:58:24.000 And they were like, get out of here, this is BS.

01:58:26.000 Yeah, they didn't like that.

01:58:27.000 Right now we have cops will actually go in your house and use it for stakeouts and things like that. 0.80

01:58:31.000 They'll seize property from your vehicle.

01:58:33.000 I think all of that should fall under the Third Amendment.

01:58:35.000 I think the issue is the language changes and the understanding of what the issue was changes.

01:58:39.000 But the core element of what the Third Amendment, I think, represents is being secure in your property from the government just taking whatever they want.

01:58:46.000 People never talk about the Third Amendment.

01:58:48.000 The Fourth Amendment says, you know, search and seizure.

01:58:50.000 So I guess that's why they're like, oh, well, that covers it.

01:58:50.000 Right.

01:58:53.000 But then what?

01:58:54.000 Agents of the state can just go in your house?

01:58:55.000 Yeah, that shouldn't be allowed.

01:58:56.000 For different reasons?

01:58:57.000 For whatever reason they want.

01:58:58.000 I mean, again, the Fourth Amendment does cover a lot of this.

01:59:00.000 But the Third Amendment is a broad protection of your property, I think should be considered and argued.

01:59:06.000 All right, let's see.

01:59:07.000 Admar says, my wife and I are required for jabs at our jobs.

01:59:10.000 Have a three month old and standing up for his future liberty, not mine.

01:59:14.000 Would rather risk a job than risk freedom.

01:59:17.000 For what it's worth, both have doctorates.

01:59:18.000 Wow.

01:59:19.000 Wow.

01:59:20.000 So that's the, that's the PhD people.

01:59:21.000 That's right.

01:59:22.000 That's the PhDs.

01:59:24.000 Alright, let's see.

01:59:25.000 Mr. Obvious says, YouTube took down my video which was 100% sourced by the CDC.

01:59:30.000 YouTube is also calling the CDC fake news.

01:59:32.000 The censorship is out of control.

01:59:33.000 And that happened to Steven Crowder.

01:59:35.000 The one thing you should have to say always is, talk to your doctor.

01:59:39.000 Right. The main reason I say that isn't just because I'm worried about YouTube censorship.

01:59:45.000 YouTube does say, like, that's one of the things you have to say. But I genuinely think,

01:59:49.000 show any of these stories you're concerned about to a doctor, because they're going to

01:59:56.000 know so much more than any of us when it comes to, like, certain counterindications, underlying

02:00:02.000 Well, you hope so.

02:00:03.000 You hope that they will.

02:00:04.000 Depends on the doctor.

02:00:05.000 Depends on what they have a doctor in.

02:00:07.000 I was asking a pediatrician about vaccinations and I got kind of a dodgy answer.

02:00:14.000 You got a bad doctor.

02:00:15.000 if you if you called a plumber and you said that my toilets backed up and you went oh you're a bobo line must be birthed you'd be like I don't know what you're talking about I'm gonna call a different plumber I don't understand why people have that that like if your doctor can't give you legitimate answers like you need to find one yeah I mean what I'd like to know is I'm interested to know what the risks are You know, they're talking about emergency authorization for vaccinations for children under 12.

02:00:45.000 And I'm saying, like, is there a way to know what the risks are?

02:00:48.000 Is there a way to, like, are there additional tests that you could run on kids to make sure that they're not susceptible to some of these adverse reactions, you know?

02:00:56.000 And the answer was no.

02:00:58.000 I was like, really?

02:01:00.000 That's the problem with rushing vaccines out.

02:01:02.000 That doesn't seem like the thing.

02:01:03.000 I think it's an issue of people taking their doctors, their medical, their health for granted and just assuming that because you've hired someone, they're good at their job.

02:01:10.000 That's for sure, dude.

02:01:11.000 The human body is, this has been on my mind a lot too, the greatest gift God has ever given us and to abuse it is blasphemous and is demonic.

02:01:20.000 It's a form of possession to abuse your body, whether that's obesity or Haphazardly injecting yourself with God knows what.

02:01:31.000 Take it seriously.

02:01:32.000 I'm literally not worried about the vaccines.

02:01:34.000 You're vaccinated.

02:01:35.000 I think the issue is people need to do better when they're choosing their doctors.

02:01:38.000 The doctor my family had was a family friend.

02:01:41.000 They trusted him.

02:01:41.000 They knew him.

02:01:42.000 He answered all the questions, helped calm people down.

02:01:47.000 I think the issue is probably a lot of people have bad doctors.

02:01:49.000 And they're not virologists.

02:01:51.000 You get a doctorate in virology, you get a doctorate in neurochemistry, you get a doctorate in philosophy.

02:01:57.000 You're still a doctor.

02:01:58.000 Well, it doesn't mean you know anything about vaccines.

02:02:00.000 Nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

02:02:01.000 Well, you're saying, like Libby was saying, she went to a pediatrician and asked about viruses.

02:02:05.000 The pediatrician's not educated in viruses.

02:02:07.000 It's not a virologist.

02:02:09.000 So you're gonna get, you need to go to the right doctors, the people that actually know the stuff.

02:02:12.000 And good luck finding them, I guess.

02:02:14.000 You need to go to healthcare practitioners who are knowledgeable, who have been reading the modern literature and the science, and are going to give you a legitimate, honest opinion based on everything that's going on.

02:02:25.000 Not a political opinion.

02:02:27.000 E.W.

02:02:27.000 Let's read some more!

02:02:29.000 says, Libby, you should look at Tulsa, Oklahoma for the post-millennial.

02:02:32.000 Tulsa is a mid-major city, cheap cost of living, good people, great culture, like a mini-Austin, and one of the best-kept secrets in the Red States.

02:02:41.000 Come down, I'll happily host.

02:02:44.000 Tulsa.

02:02:44.000 What city was it?

02:02:45.000 Tulsa, Oklahoma.

02:02:46.000 Tulsa, Oklahoma.

02:02:47.000 Nebraska's pretty good, isn't it?

02:02:49.000 I think so.

02:02:50.000 I remember for a while, all the good bands were coming out of, what, Omaha, Nebraska?

02:02:53.000 Wasn't it like Sleater-Kinney from Omaha, Nebraska?

02:02:56.000 She's great.

02:02:56.000 Wow.

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:58.000 Florida Man says, YouTube just gave me a strike for uploading Ram's video.

02:03:02.000 Medical misinformation, they claim.

02:03:04.000 I'm over the tyranny.

02:03:05.000 We the people need to clean up DC.

02:03:07.000 I mean, that's SF, actually, but, you know.

02:03:09.000 But I hear what you're saying.

02:03:11.000 I don't know, man.

02:03:12.000 This is the craziest thing because I don't understand how YouTube enforces its rules.

02:03:17.000 I genuinely think It's like purposefully vague and confusing.

02:03:24.000 I have no idea.

02:03:26.000 All I know is I do not want to assume any liability for someone doing anything dumb.

02:03:31.000 So talk to your doctor about what's right for you. 0.66

02:03:34.000 Strikes are something else.

02:03:35.000 Like you can get struck and banned or whatever.

02:03:37.000 And we have other means.

02:03:38.000 We have the podcast.

02:03:38.000 We got, you know, the website.

02:03:41.000 But I don't give financial advice.

02:03:42.000 I don't give medical advice.

02:03:43.000 You got to go to a financial planner and a doctor.

02:03:45.000 So leave me out of that stuff.

02:03:49.000 Alex on Earth says, was Loki right in his speech about kneeling being the natural state of human?

02:03:54.000 You know, uh, when Ian was saying that, I did want to do the Loki line.

02:03:58.000 He's like, you know, is this not better?

02:04:00.000 Your natural state?

02:04:01.000 Humans crave subjugation.

02:04:03.000 I don't, I don't, I think he's over the top.

02:04:05.000 But I think what you see is that most people are willing to accept kneeling before a tyrant if it means they'll just get to go to their house, close the door, and eat, you know, Hot Pocket or something.

02:04:13.000 To the point where we have social security cards now at birth.

02:04:15.000 They don't even ask us if we want them.

02:04:17.000 You are registered.

02:04:18.000 Are we born kneeling?

02:04:20.000 Wait, you get a social security card at birth?

02:04:23.000 Yeah, you're assigned a number at birth.

02:04:24.000 But you have to apply for a social security card.

02:04:26.000 Oh, not the card, the number.

02:04:27.000 You get a number at birth.

02:04:28.000 They didn't use to until like the 30s or something.

02:04:30.000 But you have to like apply for it.

02:04:33.000 You apply your kid for it?

02:04:33.000 Don't you just get a number?

02:04:35.000 Yeah, I had to like go get it.

02:04:36.000 And what if you don't do that?

02:04:38.000 I don't know.

02:04:39.000 Kid doesn't exist.

02:04:40.000 Reminds me of Rick and Morty when he's playing Roy, and they're like, this guy's taking him off the grid.

02:04:45.000 He doesn't have a social security number!

02:04:46.000 That was funny.

02:04:48.000 All right.

02:04:49.000 You know what's weird about security numbers?

02:04:50.000 I lost my social security card at one point and I had to get a new one.

02:04:53.000 And I went to the social security office to get it.

02:04:55.000 And they had someone who was not my mother listed as my mother.

02:04:58.000 And they were like asking me the emergency questions like, oh, and who's your mother?

02:05:02.000 And I said, and they were like, that's not your mother.

02:05:04.000 And I was like, um, she's standing right here.

02:05:06.000 Like she drove me down here.

02:05:09.000 All right, let's see.

02:05:09.000 Pretty weird.

02:05:11.000 Laura Ren says, it's my birthday.

02:05:13.000 And for my birthday, I was refused entry into my girl's ICU because of the new restrictions.

02:05:17.000 July 30th, she was crushed by a semi.

02:05:20.000 Four hours away in another state.

02:05:21.000 We have a GoFundMe.

02:05:22.000 Help Carol Ann recover. 0.98

02:05:26.000 Not everything is covered by insurance.

02:05:27.000 I'm so sorry to hear that.

02:05:29.000 And I'm sorry to hear about the whole situation.

02:05:31.000 Best of luck.

02:05:32.000 That's a GoFundMe.

02:05:34.000 Carol Ann recover. 0.67

02:05:37.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:05:39.000 We'll do a couple more here.

02:05:42.000 Richard Cranium says, with almost 30k people watching, let's hit that like button.

02:05:47.000 That's right.

02:05:48.000 Definitely.

02:05:50.000 All right, let's see.

02:05:51.000 BlackRockBeacon says, To all serving in the Armed Forces, look up DoD Directive 6200.2, Use of Investigational New Drugs for Force Health Protection.

02:06:00.000 We need to start doing FOIA requests to ensure all protocols were properly followed, otherwise VAX is an unlawful order.

02:06:07.000 And I'll stress to people, the DOJ has, I think the Supreme Court's ruled on this, they can mandate vaccines nationwide if they wanted to.

02:06:16.000 Wow.

02:06:16.000 Yeah.

02:06:17.000 What?

02:06:17.000 Really?

02:06:17.000 I'm pretty sure.

02:06:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:18.000 What?

02:06:19.000 I think it was Harmeet Dhillon who also did a thread saying, like, she has to let people understand, like, jobs are allowed to mandate that from you.

02:06:26.000 Yeah.

02:06:27.000 Okay, uh, we'll just do a couple more.

02:06:29.000 William JS says, Libby looks like Elizabeth Moss from the show Handmaid's Tale. 1.00

02:06:33.000 Great show.

02:06:34.000 Very relevant to what's going on today.

02:06:36.000 You what?

02:06:37.000 People say that to me.

02:06:38.000 All right, let's see what we got.

02:06:38.000 That's funny.

02:06:43.000 Zane Peavy says, if you're okay with companies mandating employees get the vaccine, would you be okay with them forcing women to take birth control?

02:06:50.000 Um... I guess the answer is yes.

02:06:54.000 If a company says, we... I'm talking about small businesses, mind you.

02:06:58.000 Like, larger corporations with heavier regulation and thousands of employees are different.

02:07:03.000 I'm saying, like...

02:07:05.000 A small business.

02:07:06.000 If there's a guy who makes pizzas, and it's literally just him in his kitchen, and he has to hire somebody, and he's like, I don't want somebody who's coming in here and doing, you know, X, Y, or Z, then it's his choice, you know?

02:07:16.000 Within reason.

02:07:18.000 So, I don't know, it's a tough question, I gotta be honest.

02:07:20.000 Maybe the answer to that one is no, and maybe it's not so much an issue of principle, it's an issue of personal morals.

02:07:26.000 And that's an important distinction as well.

02:07:28.000 I might say something like, I don't think businesses should be forced, but I also have an issue with this kind of violation of ethics.

02:07:35.000 And then it becomes a really... This is why I'm never going to be a politician.

02:07:37.000 This is why I don't want to be legislating law or writing up what should or shouldn't be because someone's going to say it's not fair if I have to do X if this person doesn't have to do Y. And then I'm just like, bro, I am not going to be a king of anybody.

02:07:48.000 I think human traffickers force girls to go on birth control before they escort them across the border because of the... Yikes, man.

02:07:56.000 This is what Ted Cruz was telling me the other day.

02:07:58.000 Was it not just me?

02:07:59.000 It was at this conference in Houston.

02:08:02.000 But he was saying that The human traffickers force girls to be on birth control because they are going to get raped on the journey.

02:08:10.000 That's messed up.

02:08:11.000 It's messed up?

02:08:11.000 Yeah.

02:08:12.000 Yeah, I talked to this other guy who was showing me the bracelets that the human traffickers put on people when they're crossing the border.

02:08:20.000 It'll be like, you know, it'll say like Mujer on them and stuff, just like identifying who everybody is as to where they're going to be like sold off to and stuff.

02:08:30.000 It's really a mess.

02:08:31.000 The people who are profiting from that are clearly the massive international human trafficking cartels.

02:08:37.000 Well, my friends, thanks for hanging out.

02:08:39.000 We're going to go start doing the Members Only segment, so go to TimCast.com, become a member, and we'll have the bonus segment coming up shortly.

02:08:46.000 You can also subscribe to this channel, hit the like button, leave us a good review, and follow us at TimCast IRL, and you can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:08:54.000 Did you want to shout anything out, Lydia?

02:08:56.000 Oh yeah, I'm Libby Emmons.

02:08:58.000 I'm at The Post Millennial every day and I'm at Libby Emmons on Twitter.

02:09:02.000 Thanks.

02:09:02.000 Thanks for coming, Libby.

02:09:03.000 Thanks.

02:09:04.000 Yeah, follow me at Ian Crossland, guys.

02:09:05.000 Thanks for coming.

02:09:07.000 Thank you so much for coming, Libby.

02:09:08.000 And I just wanted to say, too, that part of what we're doing with the culture is giving some kind of alternative, because I have noticed that one thing conservatives like to do is say, this is bad, bad, bad, bad.

02:09:16.000 So, what are you offering as an alternative?

02:09:20.000 What am I offering?

02:09:21.000 No, not you.

02:09:23.000 I'm glad you guys are.

02:09:24.000 Answer that question.

02:09:25.000 Yeah, answer it, Libby.

02:09:26.000 I'm writing a book actually on how to make a conservative arts and culture movement.

02:09:30.000 That's awesome!

02:09:31.000 Perfect!

02:09:32.000 You know exactly what's up.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 09, 2021

Timcast IRL - Rand Paul Calls On Americans To RESIST COVID Restrictions w-Libby Emmons

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