Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Rand Paul Says The Election Was STOLEN Amid Fraud Hearing, w- Jack Murphy

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00:00:37.000 we had a hearing today and it was streamed live We got to watch as we heard from the Trump campaign's lawyer under oath about evidence that there was voter fraud in many states.

00:01:13.000 Again, let me stress that for you because many on the left and the mainstream media don't seem to understand this.

00:01:17.000 The Trump campaign lawyers Stated, definitively, under oath, this is our evidence of voter fraud.

00:01:24.000 If you think they're lying, please, you know, send the prosecutor and give me some perjury charges, all right?

00:01:30.000 Make it happen.

00:01:31.000 But for now, you can't keep saying they have not presented their case under oath, and you can't keep saying there's no evidence, because they certainly presented it.

00:01:38.000 Well, Rand Paul steps up and he says, in many ways, the election was stolen, there was fraud, and something must be done.

00:01:44.000 He didn't go as far as to say, because of fraud, which is the fancy phrase that YouTube will ban us for, but he did make a pretty bold statement.

00:01:52.000 And that means, to many people, Rand Paul is going to be the senator who joins the House member Republican, probably Mo Brooks, and disputes the electoral vote come January 6th.

00:02:01.000 And in my opinion, this means nothing.

00:02:04.000 Because the Republicans have no political willpower and probably will do nothing.

00:02:08.000 And Mitch McConnell's already begging Republicans to roll over and let the Democrats do what they want.

00:02:12.000 So I certainly imagine that come January 6th, you may see some principled Republicans and you'll see most of them go, but I don't wanna.

00:02:19.000 Can't we just let the Democrats do it?

00:02:21.000 It's so much easier.

00:02:22.000 Welcome to politics, everybody.

00:02:24.000 Today, we're hanging out with Jack Murphy.

00:02:25.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:26.000 Good to be back.

00:02:27.000 Schedule got messed up for a little bit, but here we are Wednesday night.

00:02:30.000 It's good to see you, Lydia.

00:02:31.000 Made it through the blizzard.

00:02:32.000 Made it through the blizzard.

00:02:33.000 You know, nothing was going to keep me away tonight.

00:02:35.000 Nothing at all.

00:02:36.000 Four wheel drive, 35 miles an hour.

00:02:39.000 Nice and slow.

00:02:40.000 Yeah, man.

00:02:41.000 So when they says like, it's like, it's the biggest nor'easter in a decade or whatever.

00:02:44.000 That's, that's hit, you know, the area.

00:02:46.000 And people were like, is Jack going to be safe?

00:02:48.000 He's going to make it.

00:02:49.000 I was like, I was like, Jack's driving four by four.

00:02:51.000 He's going to, he's not going to, he's not going to flinch on this.

00:02:53.000 He scoffed when I said, I don't know.

00:02:55.000 I told Jack, maybe he shouldn't come up.

00:02:57.000 He did.

00:02:57.000 Ian did.

00:02:58.000 And then Lydia went out in the street, took a picture.

00:03:00.000 She's like, it's all good.

00:03:01.000 Don't worry about it.

00:03:02.000 I'm from Midwest, man.

00:03:03.000 I can deal with this.

00:03:04.000 Plus in DC, it snowed 40 inches.

00:03:08.000 And then like two days later, it snowed 40 inches again.

00:03:10.000 Whoa, wait, recently?

00:03:11.000 Yeah, 10 years ago.

00:03:12.000 It was called Snowmageddon.

00:03:14.000 So this 12 inches is nothing.

00:03:16.000 Yeah, I know.

00:03:17.000 Not only that, I was like, if Jack can't make it up while being this, you know, like 6'5", bearded man, I demand he walk here through the rugged snow like, I'm coming on the run.

00:03:27.000 Nothing's going to stop me, Tim.

00:03:28.000 Nothing's going to stop me from seeing you.

00:03:30.000 I've missed you, dude.

00:03:31.000 I took a week off.

00:03:32.000 I've missed you, Ian.

00:03:33.000 And we don't live on a mountaintop.

00:03:35.000 Kaikoura was like over-dramatizing.

00:03:39.000 How far deep into the woods?

00:03:40.000 We actually kind of do.

00:03:42.000 Kind of, yeah.

00:03:43.000 Not the top top because it goes up more in the back, but we're in mountainous areas.

00:03:48.000 Definitely.

00:03:48.000 But, you know, it's not like Everest or anything.

00:03:50.000 But it's elevated.

00:03:51.000 There's a freeway.

00:03:52.000 Yeah.

00:03:52.000 Well, Luke's hanging out too.

00:03:54.000 Well, hi, I am the optimistic residential Uncle Eddie.

00:03:57.000 It's good to be here.

00:03:58.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:59.000 That's it? 1.00

00:04:00.000 You normally have some ridiculous dumb thing to say? 1.00

00:04:03.000 No, you're Uncle Rico. 0.99

00:04:04.000 Luke shoveled the ice and snow off his RV today.

00:04:08.000 He did, yeah.

00:04:08.000 I got video of it.

00:04:10.000 And he was trying to throw snowballs, but his aim was awful.

00:04:12.000 Terrible aim.

00:04:13.000 Next time, do the sidewalk to the door while you're at it.

00:04:16.000 We tried using an old skate deck to go down it, but you start going so fast.

00:04:20.000 close by has a plow.

00:04:21.000 The whole, Tim's 12 mile approach, you know, from the street up the driveway takes about

00:04:26.000 25 minutes to drive it up.

00:04:28.000 The whole thing was totally plowed.

00:04:30.000 We tried using an old skate deck to go down it, but you start going so fast because it's

00:04:34.000 not, it wasn't snow, it was slush and sleet and like ice.

00:04:39.000 Is that why there was just that one random skate deck on the porch when

00:04:41.000 Yeah, soaking wet.

00:04:43.000 Cause we were jumping on it.

00:04:44.000 And then once you get to like 60 miles an hour, you give up and then slide.

00:04:47.000 No, we didn't go that fast.

00:04:48.000 You could totally.

00:04:49.000 And then you'd lose control and just flip out.

00:04:51.000 But the cool thing about it is when you fall, you just slide down, down the asphalt.

00:04:55.000 It's just, you know, it's ice.

00:04:56.000 It's cold.

00:04:57.000 That's about it.

00:04:58.000 So yeah, that's what's going on here.

00:04:59.000 And, uh, one more thing.

00:05:01.000 I'll give a shout out to, um, to Verizon for, um, six months ago, we were supposed to have internet installed.

00:05:06.000 They finally show up, installed the wrong box, told us they finished the job.

00:05:09.000 They didn't.

00:05:10.000 We have no way to connect to it.

00:05:11.000 And, uh, now we're sitting here and, uh, the Verizon keeps calling us being like, but it's already set up.

00:05:17.000 And I'm like, dude, there's nothing that connects.

00:05:19.000 We had an IT guy come out and he's like, you can't connect to this.

00:05:21.000 It's a Verizon equipment.

00:05:22.000 It's the magic of corporate occupancy.

00:05:24.000 It's amazing your 2400 dial up here has been performing so well.

00:05:29.000 And the satellite too, but we recently did some improvements because the power kept cutting out.

00:05:32.000 And I don't know why, because we didn't change anything, but we decided to split the electrical load to different circuits.

00:05:39.000 And then we put the internet on a different line as well, so it's closer to the monomer.

00:05:43.000 I think it should be good.

00:05:45.000 Nothing getting in our way tonight.

00:05:46.000 We're unstoppable.

00:05:47.000 Ladies and gentlemen, for everything we've just gone through, Jack Murphy dragging his sleigh through the snow to make it here, bare hands.

00:05:59.000 Smash that like button, subscribe, hit the notification bell.

00:06:02.000 But let's read this news here, man.

00:06:03.000 Let's talk about Rand Paul claiming the election was in many ways stolen.

00:06:06.000 Now, as all of you know, yes, let's not play games.

00:06:10.000 We don't want to get the stream taken off the air.

00:06:13.000 And YouTube has said that if you say certain things in combination, they'll just take down the clip.

00:06:19.000 What combos, like Iraq, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, Al-Qaeda?

00:06:23.000 That's okay.

00:06:23.000 Oh, that's okay?

00:06:24.000 Yeah, you can say that.

00:06:24.000 You can say those smashed up?

00:06:26.000 Yeah, you can say, you can lie to the American people, at least, and call for a repeated war, which gets us into this 20-year quagmire, and you can claim that Trump is a Russian asset, still, to this day, working for the Soviets, not just Russia, because they said 1987, all right?

00:06:43.000 They said 1987, and you are okay, but if you claim Two things.

00:06:50.000 The first is that there's widespread voter fraud or error.

00:06:52.000 And the second, you combine that with a statement that it changed the outcome, they remove your content.

00:06:57.000 Boom.

00:06:57.000 Just gone from YouTube.

00:06:59.000 Which is really interesting considering a lot of what's coming out right now and this statement from Rand Paul, which I will now read.

00:07:04.000 The Hill reports, quote, the fraud happened.

00:07:08.000 The election in many ways was stolen and the only way it will be fixed is by in the future reinforcing the laws.

00:07:13.000 Paul said during a hearing with testimony from Christopher Krebs, the president's former cybersecurity chief, who was fired by Trump after he reported there was no interference in the election.

00:07:22.000 Paul made the remarks as Krebs, wearing a mask, looked on skeptically, his arms crossed, in front of his chest.

00:07:27.000 Thanks for that, The Hill.

00:07:29.000 The remarks were notable because Paul is seen as one of the senators who might join a bid by Retmo Brooks to challenge the election's outcome and overturn the results in several states, despite a series of court decisions that have rejected claims of widespread fraud as unsubstantiated.

00:07:43.000 That is false!

00:07:45.000 Fake news from The Hill.

00:07:47.000 Most of these cases, as far as I know, and it's challenging because there's many, were procedural grounds.

00:07:52.000 In fact, I'll put it this way.

00:07:54.000 Maybe that's true, but in the hearing, it was stated by numerous people that the claims in these lawsuits pertaining to fraud were never actually ruled on the merits.

00:08:03.000 So they didn't say necessarily it was unsubstantiated that there was widespread fraud.

00:08:07.000 They said things like you have no standing, or it's too late to sue, or you know, this is a criminal matter that must be investigated and not for a civil court or whatever.

00:08:16.000 I'll also point out Chris Krebs, who said there was no interference.

00:08:20.000 He said specifically from a security perspective.

00:08:23.000 Security.

00:08:24.000 Because he's a cyber security guy.

00:08:25.000 He said fraud?

00:08:26.000 Well that's a criminal matter I have nothing to do with.

00:08:28.000 I don't think we can count on the GOP for support in this matter.

00:08:30.000 As much as I would like to.

00:08:32.000 if Rand Paul actually will step up, especially I don't know if you heard

00:08:36.000 Mitch McConnell basically saying, you know, leave Trump high and dry, don't do this.

00:08:40.000 I don't think we can count on the GOP for support in this matter, as much as I

00:08:44.000 would like to. I'm curious about Rand Paul going out on a limb here.

00:08:49.000 Well, you know, just he's always sort of been a renegade, right?

00:08:53.000 And doing his own thing.

00:08:54.000 And, you know, he's really making kind of a stand here.

00:08:56.000 Him and Ted Cruz have really stepped up, taking some action to try to, you know, investigate it, at least see what's happening.

00:09:03.000 Yeah.

00:09:03.000 And take a principled stand.

00:09:06.000 I guess Rand's comfortable out there by himself, huh?

00:09:08.000 He's always been.

00:09:09.000 What, did he filibuster the NDA, the defense bill?

00:09:12.000 Yeah.

00:09:13.000 That's supportive of Trump.

00:09:14.000 Trump says he's going to veto it.

00:09:15.000 I don't know if he can because Republicans and Democrats alike are like, war good.

00:09:19.000 More war. 0.76

00:09:20.000 Fantastic.

00:09:20.000 We don't care what Trump thinks.

00:09:21.000 Ted Cruz started smoking pot like six years ago.

00:09:24.000 Is that true?

00:09:25.000 What?

00:09:25.000 I don't know.

00:09:25.000 He just seems like he started smoking pot.

00:09:27.000 He totally changed.

00:09:28.000 He used to be this uptight nerd and then he started growing a beard. 0.67

00:09:30.000 Now he's like this hippie Republican. 0.88

00:09:34.000 I mean, I have no other explanation.

00:09:36.000 Yeah.

00:09:36.000 He took mushrooms or something.

00:09:38.000 Well, come January 6th, we're gonna find out.

00:09:42.000 I'm willing to bet the Republicans, with absolutely zero political willpower, are gonna sit back and be like, Dude, Rand Paul is not a Republican.

00:09:52.000 Like, he's a Republican, but he's not anything like Mitch McConnell.

00:09:55.000 Like, he's a completely different...

00:09:57.000 Yeah, he is.

00:09:58.000 He is very libertarian, yeah.

00:09:59.000 He's a lot like his dad.

00:10:00.000 Libertarian just very libertarian. Yeah. Yes, but because the Libertarian Party has no representation in our

00:10:05.000 government. They want us Republicans It's why Bernie runs as a Democrat. Yeah, but the

00:10:09.000 interesting thing about the progressive left Is that Bernie when it became obvious that he wasn't going

00:10:15.000 to win?

00:10:15.000 Or I should say that when he just when he folded because he should have kept pushing it

00:10:20.000 You know, he just dropped down and started licking the feet of the of the DNC establishment where Trump was like no,

00:10:26.000 excuse me excuse me now now and then he took over

00:10:29.000 And then the Republicans, it was, it was inverted.

00:10:31.000 It's interesting.

00:10:32.000 Bernie and the progressives were forced to drop down and beg the establishment for some kind of time and presence and they barely get any leverage.

00:10:41.000 Trump was the other way around.

00:10:43.000 Trump took over and the establishment Republicans were like, Oh no, what do we do?

00:10:47.000 You're the Trump party now, baby!

00:10:49.000 So they had to listen to what Trump wanted, you know, and they had to get behind Trump to the best, you know, to a certain extent.

00:10:54.000 And it's really funny how many Trump supporters really did say okay to the Republicans.

00:10:59.000 And now, now things are getting totally different.

00:11:01.000 I mean, first of all, I'll tell you.

00:11:03.000 When I see memes from Trump supporters mocking police officers, I don't know if you saw this one, because you saw what happened in Michigan where the cop at the state capitol wouldn't let the Republican electoral candidates in the building.

00:11:14.000 So then all of a sudden Trump supporters posting memes basically saying these cops are not heroes, they only care about their paycheck and not the constitution and stuff like that.

00:11:23.000 So, that sentiment's already changed, and now they're basically going nuts after Mitch McConnell, saying it's time for him to, you know, for a new party leader.

00:11:34.000 I think it's definitely fair to say that the GOP is fractured, and that the political realignment is happening right now in a very interesting way, where a lot of people who are anti-establishment are learning that they have a lot more in common than they have different from each other.

00:11:48.000 But also, very interestingly, the Washington Examiner also just tweeted that in Nevada there are still legal arguments that quote

00:11:55.000 42,000 people voted more than once, that at least 1,500 dead people voted, and that 19,000

00:12:02.000 people voted even though they didn't live in Nevada. So we're still hearing some of these arguments.

00:12:07.000 Will they actually translate and mean something? That was stated under oath by a Trump campaign

00:12:13.000 lawyer.

00:12:14.000 Exactly.

00:12:14.000 So if they think there's no evidence and he's lying, congratulations!

00:12:18.000 You got him!

00:12:19.000 The Trump campaign lawyer is going to go to prison for lying to Senate under oath.

00:12:23.000 Congratulations.

00:12:24.000 There you go.

00:12:24.000 So how about now we get his files, we present them in a court of law, that way you can all send the Trump campaign lawyer to jail.

00:12:30.000 How does that sound?

00:12:31.000 Never will happen.

00:12:33.000 They don't want these guys going to court.

00:12:35.000 Of course not.

00:12:35.000 They don't want the merits presented.

00:12:37.000 Absolutely not.

00:12:37.000 No discovery, none of that.

00:12:39.000 Yeah, when the Trump lawsuit I think was in Nevada, the judges didn't even, the court didn't even want to look at the evidence.

00:12:45.000 They were like, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.

00:12:47.000 The Supreme Court, which is in favor of him, which was selected, there was a large number of people that were selected by him for the Supreme Court that were from the 2000 Bush v. Gore case.

00:12:58.000 They're like, oh, we don't want to hear it as well?

00:13:01.000 Like, what else do, what other writings on the wall do we need to see that there's a big rift within the establishment?

00:13:10.000 I don't get why the court gets to pick what they decide to look at.

00:13:14.000 They work for us, so why don't we just give them what to look at?

00:13:19.000 They're an appellate court, not a trial court.

00:13:21.000 They still work for the people, right? 0.60

00:13:23.000 But they're in appellate courts, right?

00:13:25.000 So the way it works is, you can file in court and have your trial, and then the judge issues their ruling.

00:13:30.000 Congratulations, you're a citizen, you have that right.

00:13:33.000 Now appeals courts, they can reject you and say the law was upheld.

00:13:37.000 So when the Supreme Court says we're not going to look at it, usually it's because they're like, this decision was legit.

00:13:42.000 Bye.

00:13:42.000 We're not going to bother with it.

00:13:44.000 There you go.

00:13:46.000 Usually.

00:13:46.000 But in this situation... In this situation it was really different because Texas, the lawsuit from the states, it's called original jurisdiction.

00:13:53.000 Meaning, who does a state go to when they're filing a lawsuit against another state?

00:13:59.000 They can't go to a circuit court because a circuit might be in one of these states or totally unrelated, so they file with the Supreme Court.

00:14:06.000 Alito and Thomas believe they're obligated to take up these claims to represent, you know, to oversee these disputes between the states, but apparently Trump's appointees, Gorsuch, Amy Coney Barrett, and Kavanaugh did not agree and felt that they have the right to say no to these cases.

00:14:23.000 We'll see if anything comes of it.

00:14:25.000 I think one of the important things people need to realize about whether or not the election was stolen or anything, right now we're well past the point of the election.

00:14:33.000 I don't think at this point the election matters in any way.

00:14:37.000 The media said Joe Biden won.

00:14:38.000 The electoral college came and had their official votes and they said they voted for Joe Biden.

00:14:42.000 Joe Biden gets the electoral votes.

00:14:45.000 What we're talking about right now is Trump versus the establishment.

00:14:48.000 Can Trump win in this ongoing fight?

00:14:52.000 The numbers of votes don't matter as far as I'm concerned.

00:14:56.000 You know why?

00:14:57.000 We get a report out of Antrim in Michigan where a guy straight up says these machines are designed to have massive errors.

00:15:05.000 That was his assessment.

00:15:07.000 And we had Hunter Avalon on the show, and he said, I don't believe it, effectively. 0.92

00:15:11.000 He said, this guy's a Trump supporter, and he's crazy, and he's put out false information before. 0.86

00:15:14.000 And I'm like, great. 0.92

00:15:15.000 That's exactly my point.

00:15:17.000 The left is gonna be like, why would I believe this report from a Trump supporter?

00:15:20.000 And I go, it's a great point.

00:15:22.000 Why would I believe anyone who's not a Trump supporter when they come to refute it?

00:15:25.000 In which case, all that really matters, confidence, legitimacy, and influence.

00:15:29.000 Trump wins if more people believe in him than anything else.

00:15:34.000 I don't know if that's going to happen, especially with people like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell really, really hurting Trump's legitimacy.

00:15:40.000 Like, seriously hurting it.

00:15:43.000 When regular people are not paying attention and you get some crazy crackin' story, you know, Hugo Chavez or whatever.

00:15:50.000 I want to be like, what?

00:15:51.000 I don't know.

00:15:52.000 What is that?

00:15:52.000 That sounds crazy to me.

00:15:53.000 And so that hurts Trump's legitimacy.

00:15:56.000 If they came out and made a constitutional argument about changing the rules, a regular person says, well, that's, you know, interesting.

00:16:02.000 Constitution.

00:16:03.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:03.000 By election to the Constitution.

00:16:04.000 I understand that.

00:16:06.000 Trump needs to convince more people.

00:16:07.000 Because right now, I'll tell you this.

00:16:09.000 If 100 million people woke up today or tomorrow morning and all said Trump is president, Trump would be president.

00:16:16.000 Seriously, if everyone in this country just one day said the Constitution doesn't exist, then it wouldn't exist.

00:16:22.000 Its power is held in the fact that people swear an oath to it, that we believe in the system, we have confidence the system exists, and that's what matters.

00:16:29.000 So Trump is fighting a kind of battle to prove some kind of legitimacy.

00:16:33.000 The reason it's going through the courts and the reason it's going to go to January 6th when they dispute is to use the system that exists now to assert legitimacy.

00:16:43.000 That's it.

00:16:44.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:16:45.000 They say it's over.

00:16:47.000 Betfair, right?

00:16:48.000 They do the, they do political betting.

00:16:49.000 I think they're based in the UK.

00:16:51.000 Said December 14th, the Electoral College voted.

00:16:53.000 Joe Biden has won the presidency.

00:16:54.000 A bunch of Trump supporters got really mad.

00:16:56.000 Started, you know, tweeting at him saying, what do you mean?

00:16:57.000 Like they haven't even counted the votes yet.

00:16:59.000 And they're like, well, if you have a problem with it, we'll revisit later.

00:17:02.000 The reason Betfair probably paid out is because they want to get their taxes in before the end of the year.

00:17:06.000 You know, their losses and their, like, I guess the way you can put it is.

00:17:10.000 They take all this money for bets.

00:17:12.000 And if they hold on to it into the next year, that's all revenue plus.

00:17:15.000 So they need those losses.

00:17:16.000 They need to be like, here's what we paid out and lost.

00:17:19.000 We'll come back to it later if Trump somehow becomes president.

00:17:22.000 It might even be Kamala Harris. 0.95

00:17:23.000 I mean, there's, look, Joe Biden was coughing up the storms, an old man. 0.99

00:17:27.000 And he announced he's going to be taking the COVID vaccine next week.

00:17:31.000 Oh my God.

00:17:32.000 So, uh, yeah.

00:17:33.000 And the phylaxis?

00:17:34.000 Yeah, that's publicly announced.

00:17:35.000 Nah, I think he'll be fine.

00:17:37.000 But, uh... I'm not saying he won't.

00:17:39.000 I'm not saying he won't.

00:17:40.000 I'm just adding another layer to that.

00:17:42.000 He's gonna be doing that as well.

00:17:43.000 So, what's happening is... There's a system that exists.

00:17:47.000 There are stamps on envelopes.

00:17:49.000 Certification, right?

00:17:50.000 Official Governor's Seal.

00:17:51.000 That's the kind of thing that a regular person looks at and says, I recognize that as legitimate.

00:17:56.000 But what if someone came to you with a seal that said, you know, office of the new... What did we saw?

00:18:02.000 We saw a lawsuit that went to the... that signed on for the Texas lawsuit.

00:18:06.000 The Texas lawsuit got two amicus additions from New California and New Nevada.

00:18:13.000 Yeah, what was that?

00:18:14.000 States which do not exist.

00:18:15.000 Yeah.

00:18:16.000 But what if someone believed it?

00:18:19.000 What if the media announced?

00:18:20.000 What if every news outlet said, the state of New Nevada now exists and here's its territory?

00:18:25.000 People would be like, wow, and they believe it.

00:18:27.000 Then when someone sues, people would be like, it's a thing, right?

00:18:31.000 So that's what the media has been relentlessly saying Joe Biden's president-elect, even though president-elect isn't determined until January 6th.

00:18:37.000 They want him to be legitimized.

00:18:39.000 Trump is fighting for legitimacy.

00:18:40.000 The best path for Trump to get legitimacy is on January 6th, at this point, and it's extremely unlikely.

00:18:45.000 Maybe.

00:18:46.000 Maybe what happens is that some information comes out, you know, from now until then, and then you have these Republican electoral candidates who cast their votes procedurally, so then, you know, something flips, and then the count says, you know, Republicans support Trump, Democrats support Biden, there's a dispute, it goes to Supreme Court or whatever, who knows, Trump ends up winning, something like that.

00:19:07.000 It's using the system's legitimacy to claim you are president, but I tell you, I think that when they're saying it's over now, then they're saying, but on January 6th, we'll see Trump's final plan.

00:19:17.000 It's not over election-wise until January 20th, when Joe Biden swears an oath and he's sworn in to the Oval Office and all that stuff, and Trump leaves.

00:19:28.000 What if Trump doesn't leave?

00:19:29.000 He will leave if he's supposed to.

00:19:31.000 Yeah.

00:19:32.000 I believe that a hundred percent.

00:19:33.000 What you bring up is something very interesting though is about what binds us, what binds us as people.

00:19:39.000 And it's about shared imagined imagined stories, right?

00:19:43.000 It's just this thing in our imagination that we know somebody else believes.

00:19:46.000 And so we believe the same imagines, you know, order the same story.

00:19:50.000 And that's what makes our tribes.

00:19:51.000 And so right now everything is about who can be the fastest with the story and the narrative who can have flood the zone with the most information and the most stories that people can latch on to and believe are reality.

00:20:03.000 And that's why the stop the steal guys are keep going and the protests keep going and the never give up no black pill people keep going because you're right there.

00:20:11.000 It is about just what people believe.

00:20:14.000 That can shape reality.

00:20:15.000 That's how the US dollar works.

00:20:17.000 This is historically a tortured existence for human beings.

00:20:22.000 You know why?

00:20:22.000 I was reading about the War for Independence, the Revolutionary War, and you know, back in the day, we talked about this before, when they signed the Declaration of Independence, there were drafts before they signed it.

00:20:34.000 They signed it on July 2nd, I believe, and then the announcement was like July 4th, I guess, and that's when like the final version came out or something.

00:20:40.000 But it wasn't until, I think, what was the date?

00:20:42.000 Was it October 29th, maybe?

00:20:45.000 Can't remember.

00:20:46.000 Where the King addressed Parliament for the first time after reading the Declaration.

00:20:52.000 Months went by, like, with nothing happening.

00:20:56.000 And then how long until they actually sent the, you know, the British Expeditionary Force to the colonies to quell the rebellion?

00:21:02.000 It probably was a year.

00:21:03.000 Now, realistically, the Revolutionary War was already happening.

00:21:06.000 It was happening, I think, for like two years before they signed the Declaration of Independence.

00:21:10.000 Because the colonies were already in revolt.

00:21:13.000 So it had been going on for a long time.

00:21:15.000 But this is what I was saying a long time ago.

00:21:17.000 You used to, you'd be sitting on your farm or whatever, or you'd be working on someone's farm, whatever you did, and then, you know, a postal rider would come and be like, we have a letter from the king!

00:21:25.000 It's, you know, it's finally arrived after three months! 0.99

00:21:28.000 And you read it, and it says like, you know, you suck, and you're like, oh yeah, well you suck, send it back, and then three months later the king gets it. 0.98

00:21:34.000 A year goes by before any real action is taken, so you were living your life, you were eating food with your friends and your family, and you were working, enjoying yourself, and in the sun, and all the political stuff was so stretched out. 0.99

00:21:45.000 Once every other month you'd have like some kind of political thing happen, and you'd be like, ah, now it's every day, every minute, something changes.

00:21:52.000 I wake up, and there's like ten stories of like crazy apocalyptic news revelations.

00:21:58.000 Rand Paul.

00:22:00.000 Mitch McConnell.

00:22:01.000 The DNI chief.

00:22:02.000 It's overwhelming.

00:22:03.000 And this is why we had elections in November and inaugurations in January because it took people to travel so long across the country to get to Washington D.C.

00:22:12.000 and set everything up for themselves.

00:22:14.000 But right now there is a lot to say about this inundation of information, of data, And also, who controls it, the algorithms that are set, and how they play on our emotions, feelings, and larger expansion of life, which has a huge detrimental effect, in my opinion.

00:22:29.000 There's a lot to say about that.

00:22:30.000 Sorry, I cut you off here.

00:22:31.000 Well, the first thing was that, back in the day, it took so long to get information that we actually needed people to represent us in politics.

00:22:39.000 And now we don't.

00:22:42.000 I think we do.

00:22:43.000 No way, dude.

00:22:44.000 You get all your information immediately.

00:22:46.000 You can interact with anyone in the world immediately.

00:22:48.000 You do not need other people to represent you anymore.

00:22:49.000 That's wrong.

00:22:50.000 That's completely wrong.

00:22:50.000 I disagree with you.

00:22:51.000 Well, you're factually incorrect.

00:22:53.000 Tell me how.

00:22:55.000 How much news do you read every day?

00:22:57.000 As much as I want.

00:22:58.000 As much as you want.

00:22:58.000 Is it enough to know who Mykola Zlochevsky is?

00:23:03.000 That's a bizarre question!

00:23:04.000 No, it isn't!

00:23:06.000 When I'm talking about whether or not... Is it enough?

00:23:08.000 I don't know.

00:23:09.000 You can always read more.

00:23:10.000 The answer is no, because some people's jobs... No, but if I needed to know who he was, I would find out.

00:23:13.000 Some people's jobs is to collect and disseminate information.

00:23:17.000 And I can't expect a plumber or a tradesman to know everything about what's going on in the world.

00:23:22.000 They say, listen, bro, I can make the best aqueduct system you've ever seen in the world, and you would be envious of my skill.

00:23:28.000 And I would say, you're totally correct.

00:23:29.000 And they'd say, but you know what?

00:23:30.000 I don't know who any of these guys are who are changing money, who are negotiating between these countries.

00:23:35.000 I need someone who can be dedicated to that field of work.

00:23:38.000 They're allowed to give up their power if they want, but they should not be forced to give up their power.

00:23:43.000 Direct democracy doesn't work. 0.97

00:23:44.000 It's chaos.

00:23:45.000 It's mob rule.

00:23:46.000 And a bunch of people who have no idea what's going on asserting rights and like their right to control and manipulate the system to a direct democracy degree.

00:23:57.000 No, we need a direct republic. 0.59

00:23:58.000 I'm not talking about direct republic.

00:23:59.000 What is a direct republic?

00:24:00.000 Where a bunch of us in our district can vote and then that becomes the yay or nay. 0.58

00:24:04.000 We don't need to vote for someone to go say yay or nay for us.

00:24:09.000 Maybe.

00:24:10.000 The other thing I was thinking is that regarding the media, you know Joseph Goebbels?

00:24:17.000 He was Hitler's minister of propaganda. 0.87

00:24:20.000 His quote that if you tell a lie big enough and repeat it, keep repeating it, that people will eventually come to believe it.

00:24:26.000 He went on to elaborate about lying, just continuously lying.

00:24:31.000 Let me tell you a story about... To create the myth.

00:24:33.000 Let me tell you a story about Reddit.

00:24:35.000 When, uh, I think it was, I think it was the Boston bombing, actually.

00:24:39.000 Reddit was convinced that they had found the suspect.

00:24:43.000 And they started posting photos and the name.

00:24:45.000 And the community all got together and made their decree of who the bad guy really was.

00:24:50.000 And they were wrong.

00:24:51.000 And that's the problem with mob voting or mob rule or you know.

00:24:56.000 I remember being on the ground in Boston after that bombing happened.

00:25:00.000 I drove up from New York City and just hearing all the fake news reports going around and seeing it translated with panic in the streets of saying, We got to look out we got to fight for this guy and people

00:25:09.000 not know his name I don't say his name though because he was innocent and so

00:25:12.000 the concern is I think representative Constitutional Republic is a good thing

00:25:17.000 I think the problem is we have corrupt representatives for the most part almost all of them except for a small handful

00:25:23.000 But when you have a bunch of people like even even a you know a direct Republic

00:25:28.000 It's an interesting concept because it would still have the Electoral College

00:25:31.000 You'd still have you know Congress per district and everything like that in different districts

00:25:35.000 You know all based on a certain number of people so you'd still get you know senators I suppose

00:25:40.000 I'm going to go ahead and close.

00:25:41.000 I don't know how that actually would work with state representation.

00:25:43.000 I guess you'd still have to have senators. 0.98

00:25:44.000 Well, no, you wouldn't, because, okay, how many representatives are there?

00:25:46.000 400 now?

00:25:47.000 Or however many.

00:25:48.000 Let's pick a number.

00:25:49.000 500 dudes.

00:25:50.000 People representing 535 areas.

00:25:53.000 Now, instead of that person saying yay or nay for that area, those people would do a mass vote, and then that area would produce a yay or nay vote of the other 534.

00:26:01.000 And then each area would give their one 535th.

00:26:06.000 So what ends up happening is what we're supposed to have is a politician who understands the policies, who visits the areas and understands the needs of each area and says, if one group comes to me and says fracking is wrong and destroying the environment, we must ban it.

00:26:23.000 And another group comes to me and says fracking is good.

00:26:25.000 It's the lifeblood of Western Pennsylvania.

00:26:27.000 We would die without it.

00:26:29.000 Hmm.

00:26:30.000 That's a good point.

00:26:32.000 There's a lot of concerns about fracking, but I think many of these people may be incorrect, and I can't take away the livelihoods of people who are, you know, impoverished and not making that much money, so we're gonna have to make sure we have some kind of compromise, but fracking will stand.

00:26:49.000 The people in the cities would outvote the rural areas, shutting it down and destroying all of their lives.

00:26:54.000 Because they don't know anything about that area, they don't live there, and they've never visited it.

00:26:59.000 But when you have districts, the districts vote for their interests, so that would make sense.

00:27:03.000 But when you have senators, those are the people who are supposed to go around the state and understand the full issues, and they try to pander to each and every group to find that right balance of lowest common denominator, maximum vote.

00:27:13.000 The problem is, parties on the ballot.

00:27:16.000 I think this is a big thing we can solve a lot of these problems.

00:27:18.000 We were talking about this the other day.

00:27:19.000 I don't know if you heard us, Jack.

00:27:20.000 We were saying, take political parties off ballots.

00:27:23.000 When you go to vote, there's no political parties.

00:27:24.000 You'll just see names.

00:27:26.000 Good luck.

00:27:27.000 If you don't know who the person is, don't vote for them.

00:27:29.000 But right now, people go in and they go, D or R?

00:27:31.000 D!

00:27:32.000 R!

00:27:33.000 That's all they're voting for.

00:27:34.000 Get rid of the political parties.

00:27:36.000 Just vote for the person.

00:27:36.000 If you don't know who the person is, well then don't vote for them.

00:27:38.000 That's your problem.

00:27:40.000 People want to vote for our platform, though.

00:27:42.000 They want to know sort of what the big picture is.

00:27:45.000 They want to know what the worldview is.

00:27:46.000 They don't want to just... I disagree.

00:27:48.000 People who vote for Democrat aren't voting because of what they think the platform is or whatever.

00:27:52.000 They're just like, Democrat good, Republican bad, or Republican good, Democrat bad.

00:27:56.000 Like, you know, the story we brought up again, that the trans-Satanist anarchist who ran as a Republican in the primary and won in, I think it was in New Hampshire, right?

00:28:04.000 Yep, yep, yep, yep.

00:28:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:06.000 Because people went in and they looked at the ballot and they were like, Republican!

00:28:08.000 And then they got really mad when they found out who they voted for.

00:28:11.000 That's your problem.

00:28:12.000 But what we're just talking about right now is the fact that most people are rationally low information.

00:28:17.000 Yes.

00:28:17.000 And so if you get to the ballot, there's a little bit of information that can help you.

00:28:21.000 You're talking about putting people who are low information rationally into an even lower information position.

00:28:27.000 Yeah.

00:28:28.000 But how does putting Democrat or Republican help anyone?

00:28:30.000 It's hurt them.

00:28:31.000 It's hurt them because now you get Democrats who don't have to actually do anything.

00:28:35.000 They just get elected and then they do nothing.

00:28:37.000 So you know what would really help them?

00:28:39.000 If they don't know the names of these people and so they vote randomly, it cancels everything out.

00:28:44.000 It's just random then.

00:28:46.000 But if they go in and they say, well, I know I want to vote for Trump or whatever.

00:28:49.000 I don't know about the rest of these people.

00:28:51.000 Then Trump gets the vote and they don't vote for other people.

00:28:53.000 And then the people who get into the ones that people actually wanted and supported.

00:28:57.000 I think we're all talking about the same thing and that's low information voters and the problem is people aren't informed that they're programmed and whether it's you know schools the mainstream media hollywood and more than ever social media we are seeing the programming of individuals to think a certain way and to have their limited point of view be projected in their small little echo chambers Which prevails on social media more than ever that reinforces people's beliefs rather than having them open-minded rather than have them thinking and I think if we could just get individuals thinking or open-minded or set up the cultural institutions or you know culture crash in some ways to allow people to see that there's different perspectives, there's different ideas, there's different options out there that I think naturally human beings would go towards those options and then go towards a better path than the crappy path that we are on right now.

00:29:48.000 I think this is one of the most important issues facing the country today.

00:29:51.000 I think that that is a skill that we need to teach people.

00:29:54.000 We call it in the liminal order.

00:29:55.000 We call that personal sovereignty.

00:29:57.000 And we talk about how Jordan Peterson often said that people don't have ideas, but ideas have people.

00:30:02.000 We want to train our guys to be people who, who identify their own beliefs.

00:30:07.000 And are strong enough mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, and integrated in that capacity so that they can embody those values and make a choice to live like that, a deliberate conscious choice in your belief system.

00:30:20.000 Because right now there's a battlefield in your brain and the first mover is often the one who wins and you don't even know it.

00:30:25.000 Let's be honest when a person is born they're thrown into ... the system and the system choose them up and spits them ... out uses and abuse of them to the highest level kids are ... told go get a degree go get a loan go be in servitude for ... the rest of your life paying off something that you can't ... legitimately pay off unless you're a slave to the cog of a ... machine that of course ruins any form of logical real ... sovereign individual existence.

00:30:50.000 So I think that right there is the essential key.

00:30:53.000 But how do we unravel that?

00:30:55.000 How do we fix that?

00:30:56.000 Because I see a lot of institutions, I see schools, mainstream media, Hollywood, social media, all reinforcing the establishment line, all reinforcing the doctrine that puts them on this machine.

00:31:08.000 That a lot of people don't know how to escape.

00:31:10.000 How do we do that?

00:31:10.000 The first, it starts at home and it starts with parents and it starts with fathers leading their families and teaching their kids.

00:31:15.000 These are life skills, like teach you how to hunt, teach you how to balance a checkbook, teach you how to be a sense maker and how to be personally sovereign.

00:31:22.000 And so you can choose your own ideas and make your own selection.

00:31:25.000 But this is an investment, right?

00:31:28.000 This is an investment.

00:31:28.000 And the reason why the investment makes more sense now than it may have in the past is because the stakes are higher.

00:31:36.000 The stakes are higher.

00:31:37.000 We're not just simply two gentlemen disagreeing over the size of the budget or this or that.

00:31:42.000 We have a fundamental difference in the way that we think the world and the country should be arranged.

00:31:48.000 Different notions of justice, different notions of right and wrong, different notions of truth.

00:31:53.000 Yeah.

00:31:54.000 And so we need to, we need the stakes are higher.

00:31:57.000 So the, the rationally ignorant or had by an idea sort of a selection, um, the calculus is changing on that. 1.00

00:32:05.000 Well, dumb people and low IQ people are getting abused more than ever. 0.97

00:32:09.000 And I think it's in everyone's kind of best interest that that doesn't happen because it hurts everyone on the larger kind of spectrum here. 0.99

00:32:16.000 And that's why I've been always talking about homeschooling.

00:32:18.000 New Hampshire has one of the biggest homeschooling networks.

00:32:22.000 It also has some of the highest IQs in all of the United States.

00:32:25.000 Which shows you that, you know, I think it's critically essential to get away from all these institutions.

00:32:31.000 Public schooling is one of them.

00:32:32.000 Homeschooling is a big thing.

00:32:33.000 I always followed Dana Martin.

00:32:35.000 She's a great, amazing speaker and a major proponent of homeschooling.

00:32:39.000 So if you guys are looking into potentially getting into that, definitely, probably check out Dana Martin.

00:32:44.000 And, you know, especially if you have a young child coming on the way.

00:32:47.000 I would never, ever want my kid to go through a public school system that I went through

00:32:52.000 in New York City because it was absolutely horrifying.

00:32:54.000 So right now, you have, there's actually a really, really funny meme I saw, I'll start

00:32:59.000 over. 0.99

00:33:00.000 It was the bell curve, you know, and on the back it was a really, really stupid looking 1.00

00:33:05.000 like drooling person that said Trump won. 1.00

00:33:08.000 In the middle is the average and it says Biden won and at the end it's the big brained glasses

00:33:11.000 wearing guy saying Trump won.

00:33:14.000 And the way I look at that is not necessarily that it's correct, but on the right, you certainly 0.98

00:33:18.000 have a lot of dumb people who support Trump, but you have a lot of smart people and you 0.94

00:33:23.000 can look at not necessarily everyone who's like intellectual dark web types, but like 1.00

00:33:27.000 moderate, disaffected liberals, former Democrats, people who are consciously looking at what's

00:33:32.000 going on and saying, I'm going to make a decision.

00:33:35.000 This is not the right choice.

00:33:37.000 This is.

00:33:38.000 So certainly you still have your left and right tribalists, your Democrats, your Republicans.

00:33:41.000 But in the traditional political system, it was just the exploitation of the low information voter from both parties.

00:33:49.000 But now with Trump and with Bernie, to a certain degree, you have more active individuals.

00:33:55.000 Unfortunately, I think the left has fake progressive grifters in high-profile positions who claim to represent the left, but really don't.

00:34:04.000 I'm not going to say who they are, but they're very prominent.

00:34:07.000 And then on the right, you have people who will probably be accused of the same thing, but more nuanced discussions, more debate, and an actual interest in intellectual honesty.

00:34:15.000 And I'll give you a really good example.

00:34:17.000 It was Ken Bone.

00:34:18.000 You guys remember Ken Bone?

00:34:19.000 Everyone loved him.

00:34:20.000 He was the red sweatshirt guy in the 2016 election.

00:34:23.000 He tweeted that he was going to be voting for, I think, Joe Jorgensen.

00:34:25.000 Was that what happened?

00:34:26.000 And he said, amazingly, all the Trump supporters were like, stand up for what you believe in, man.

00:34:30.000 We respect you.

00:34:30.000 Good for you.

00:34:31.000 And the left were screaming in his face, you're voting for Trump.

00:34:35.000 You know what my favorite thing is?

00:34:36.000 When people would say, when they would be like, if you vote, if you don't vote for Biden, you're essentially voting for Trump.

00:34:44.000 And then you'd hear, if you don't vote for Trump, you're essentially voting for Biden.

00:34:47.000 So then my friends who like voted third party were like, I guess I voted twice.

00:34:50.000 Cause I'm not voting for both.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:53.000 Because if one, there you go.

00:34:55.000 You know, I think that's an underappreciated phenomenon is the intellectual wing of the MAGA movement.

00:35:00.000 I think there's a lot of very thoughtful people that are analyzing the academic and philosophical trends and that they're really taking a principled stance.

00:35:08.000 Somebody like James Lindsay is a guy who went through a very public experience of coming to grips and understanding that in order to stand up for what he believed was right, he needed to get in with MAGA.

00:35:20.000 And there's a lot of people On that edge, you know, that you keep thinking are going to break this way, are going to finally see.

00:35:26.000 You know, guys like Andrew Sullivan or Eric Weinstein and those guys, you think that they're just on the cusp, but they're not.

00:35:33.000 There's just nowhere near.

00:35:34.000 Sullivan just disappoints me all the time at this point.

00:35:37.000 I used to really like that guy 15, 20 years ago.

00:35:39.000 I used to really like him a lot.

00:35:40.000 Sam Harris.

00:35:41.000 Yeah.

00:35:42.000 It's so crazy that Sam Harris is famous for his articulate assessment of radical Islam.

00:35:50.000 And he sits on Bill Maher with Ben Affleck and he's like, when we look at the concentric circles, you can see that 51 million people are explaining how there are illiberal beliefs among this religion.

00:36:03.000 And I think it's a fair point.

00:36:04.000 Many religions have illiberal beliefs within them.

00:36:06.000 But then Ben Affleck just snaps and he's like, it's racist!

00:36:10.000 And then Sam Harris is like, well, I disagree.

00:36:13.000 Why can't we have a rational discussion?

00:36:14.000 And then the Trump supporter is saying, you know, figuratively now, this didn't really happen.

00:36:17.000 A Trump supporter says, you're right, Sam Harris.

00:36:19.000 Let's have a conversation about Trump. 0.99

00:36:20.000 Well, Trump is awful! 1.00

00:36:22.000 He's a racist! 1.00

00:36:23.000 It's like, you're supposed to be smart, dude. 1.00

00:36:25.000 You're supposed to be calm and rational. 0.99

00:36:27.000 Instead, he tweets all this ridiculous, you know, nonsense about Trump. 0.97

00:36:30.000 So anyway, back to the point. 0.80

00:36:32.000 The Democrats, I can prove with one simple fact, they survive only on the low-information voter.

00:36:39.000 Dude.

00:36:39.000 And do you know what that fact is?

00:36:40.000 What?

00:36:41.000 They tried, they pushed for 16-year-olds to vote.

00:36:44.000 Yes.

00:36:44.000 That's it.

00:36:45.000 Listen, you can argue that 16-year-olds should have the right to vote, fine, but you're not going to tell me that a 16-year-old is a high-information voter.

00:36:52.000 There may be a small group of, what did Jen call them, indigo children, who are just gifted and know in their progies they exist.

00:37:00.000 Very, very smart young people.

00:37:02.000 But politics, there's so much you have to learn and experience through life to truly empathize and understand.

00:37:08.000 It's possible to be a very smart young person and have understood that.

00:37:11.000 Maybe, you know, you spent your formative years working and traveling, so you got a bigger dose of reality than the average person.

00:37:17.000 A lot of these kids grow up institutionalized and never see the world.

00:37:21.000 Even after they're 22, graduate from college, they still never left their hometown.

00:37:24.000 Man, so many of the kids in this country haven't left the six square block radius of their house or their apartment in the city that they live in.

00:37:32.000 And the Democrats' plan is, we should get them to vote.

00:37:34.000 Why?

00:37:35.000 Because low-information voters are dancing behind the Pied Piper as they lead him to the ocean.

00:37:41.000 They're going, doo-doo-doo, we'll give you all this free stuff, come.

00:37:43.000 You know what I always thought? It was really funny.

00:37:45.000 Did he just call them rats?

00:37:46.000 What?

00:37:47.000 Yeah, kind of.

00:37:47.000 I think he did.

00:37:48.000 Sure, I guess. It was an analogy. I wasn't trying to insult them. I

00:37:52.000 wasn't trying to insult them as rats. I was trying to insult them 0.98

00:37:55.000 as low intelligence.

00:37:56.000 Right, yeah.

00:37:56.000 So, but listen, listen.

00:37:57.000 Lemmings. 0.76

00:37:59.000 When I was younger, I thought about something interesting because I met a lot of people who would tell me that they were, you know, Republicans because they were fiscally conservative, but they didn't agree with Republicans on social issues.

00:38:09.000 And I'm like, right, this is kind of like the libertarians were, right?

00:38:13.000 But then I thought about a lot of the arguments about personal responsibility and the Democrats' arguments for welfare, benefits, free, you know, free healthcare, free college, free this, free that.

00:38:22.000 And I'm like, man, it really does sound like you've got two parents, and your dad is saying, look, son, if you wanna buy candy, you gotta go work to get the money to buy the candy with.

00:38:33.000 And the mom's going, just give him the candy, dear. 0.90

00:38:35.000 It's okay, honey.

00:38:36.000 And then gives the candy.

00:38:37.000 Which one is the kid gonna pick?

00:38:39.000 Free candy!

00:38:40.000 Yeah, but you know, you make an interesting comparison there.

00:38:43.000 In raising a child, having a mom who's going to coddle you and give you stuff and a dad that's going to tell you to take risks and tough love, that's a great combination.

00:38:55.000 That produces a healthy child.

00:38:56.000 But that's becoming rarer and rarer.

00:39:01.000 And we have a lot of people being shipped in to be the nannies and the nannies are like, let's just put the kid in front of the TV or give them a screen. 0.69

00:39:08.000 And as you said, kids sometimes don't even leave the six block radius.

00:39:11.000 I would say their eyes don't even leave the screen for more than the entire day that they're up and awake.

00:39:17.000 I just got a really good idea for a skit.

00:39:20.000 It's two politicians.

00:39:21.000 One politician is, you know, he's like, he's not wearing a tie, it's unbuttoned, he's really relaxed, his sleeves are folded up or whatever, and he's like, listen, we're gonna get this country back on track, but it's gonna take hard work from all of us, and we're gonna pitch in, we're gonna strengthen our community, and together, we will lead this nation anew!

00:39:40.000 Crickets.

00:39:41.000 And then it goes to the next guy, and he's dangling keys.

00:39:43.000 And they're all going, yeah!

00:39:45.000 They're cheering and clapping and celebrating.

00:39:47.000 And then it's like landslide, and it's a picture of him holding keys and dangling them.

00:39:50.000 I think that's a meme.

00:39:51.000 You're describing there that I saw a couple times.

00:39:54.000 But again, if you're paying attention, I'm seeing a lot of people who are in politics,

00:39:58.000 who are in social commentary, becoming more and more worried.

00:40:02.000 Because it definitely seems like the low information voters, the disenfranchised, the angry,

00:40:07.000 are becoming bigger and bigger.

00:40:09.000 I don't know if that's just something that we're seeing because of the social media lens that we have, but it definitely seems like there are more people who are not in the know than the people who are in the know.

00:40:18.000 Well, you know, it used to be that the people were... I hate this low-information voter.

00:40:22.000 It's insulting. 0.99

00:40:22.000 I like the phrase, uh, rationally ignorant, right? 0.99

00:40:26.000 The rationally ignorant used to just be that, rationally ignorant, but now through casual interaction through social media, they're not just rationally ignorant. 0.96

00:40:35.000 Now they're just like accidentally, you know, what's the word when you become an ideology? 0.99

00:40:40.000 Ideologue.

00:40:41.000 They're taught to be experts in everything.

00:40:43.000 right? Just through through incidental contact on social media. They were they

00:40:47.000 were rationally ignorant but now because they were posting you know pictures of

00:40:50.000 what they had for lunch and talking to their grandma now they're also getting 0.90

00:40:53.000 this like incidental radicalization. They're taught to be experts in

00:40:56.000 everything. They are being abused.

00:40:59.000 Yes, they are.

00:41:00.000 With the R and the D on the voting ballots.

00:41:03.000 They're being manipulated to vote for what a feeling that they have, that if a Democrat,

00:41:08.000 they picture blue, they picture certain things.

00:41:11.000 And so they're being abused into being brainwashed into that, to put into that.

00:41:17.000 They're voting straight party.

00:41:18.000 And they're not voting for people.

00:41:19.000 Yeah, that's a form of abuse against someone's sub-intellect. 0.99

00:41:22.000 If they're ignorant.

00:41:23.000 We communicate sub-vocally, we communicate through colors, we communicate through images, we communicate through associations and consistency. 0.97

00:41:31.000 This doesn't bother me, having the parties on the ballot.

00:41:34.000 And I find it is a useful conduit for information.

00:41:38.000 If you see Ron or Rand Paul and you're like, I love that guy, therefore I must vote for Republicans.

00:41:42.000 And then you end up putting someone like Mitch McConnell into office.

00:41:45.000 Like, what have I done?

00:41:46.000 So I don't I think it's real a mind screw to to trick people into voting a certain way.

00:41:53.000 Well, that's the whole thing.

00:41:54.000 You know, there's a reason why they made the president minimum age 35.

00:41:57.000 Right.

00:41:58.000 Why?

00:41:59.000 Why can we vote for the guy under 35 as I'm getting older and crankier and get off my lawner?

00:42:04.000 I'm thinking, you know, we should be raising the voting age.

00:42:08.000 And, you know, with skin in the game.

00:42:10.000 But now I don't want to get too crazy.

00:42:11.000 That's what I said yesterday.

00:42:13.000 I said that yesterday.

00:42:14.000 A couple of things we've seen over the past couple hundred years is that we've eroded the nature of the republic closer towards federalization and direct democracy.

00:42:25.000 That's been a onward trend, a big trend.

00:42:28.000 So that's I think that has Sort of changed the shape of this country is.

00:42:32.000 It used to be that the states would appoint electors.

00:42:35.000 It used to be that the states would appoint senators.

00:42:38.000 And then we've slowly changed all the rules to be like popular vote, popular vote, popular vote.

00:42:43.000 And now they're trying to do it once again.

00:42:45.000 National popular vote.

00:42:47.000 Should we, if we believe in the founding, we believe in the original principles of the country, we believe in the constitution and all that.

00:42:56.000 As a thought example, if we brought the Founding Fathers back today, coached them up on what was going on, shouldn't we just do what we think they would do?

00:43:03.000 What would their reaction be?

00:43:06.000 Because they lived in extremely different times and the ideas of classical liberalism to them were relatively new.

00:43:13.000 True, true.

00:43:13.000 And there were a lot of mistakes that they made.

00:43:16.000 In fact, the Declaration of Independence disparages the Native Americans as a,

00:43:20.000 like, partly the reason they wanted independence was the crown was like using Native Americans against them.

00:43:25.000 And it's like, there's a lot of things we've changed our views on.

00:43:29.000 But the general concept of individualism, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,

00:43:34.000 They would look at the Constitution and be like, how many amendments?

00:43:37.000 Wow, that's fantastic.

00:43:38.000 Because we, you know, they negotiated, I think, the Bill of Rights, what was it, several years after the Constitution.

00:43:43.000 And the Constitution was actually several years after the Articles of Confederation.

00:43:46.000 So it was a lot, it wasn't, the Declaration of Independence happened, and then it was like almost, what, like a decade later?

00:43:51.000 Thirteen years before the Constitution.

00:43:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:55.000 Jefferson was really down on central banks.

00:43:56.000 He didn't want central banks.

00:43:58.000 And Washington didn't like political parties. 0.92

00:44:01.000 That, I think, they were spot on about.

00:44:03.000 Well, Washington believed in term limits, which should be implemented, I think, everywhere within the Senate and the Congress.

00:44:10.000 And now we're living in a time where, literally, Hillary Clinton votes in the Electoral College and then says that we need to abolish the Electoral College immediately, just like she did a couple of days ago, which is a little mind boggling, to say the least.

00:44:22.000 Monsters have taken over.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, imagine if, you know, we didn't have a democratic republic and it was just rule by the masses.

00:44:29.000 I mean, you can only imagine.

00:44:30.000 I think we need a parliamentary hearing from the British courts to determine whether or not the vote from the Founding Fathers had any legal authority in the first place.

00:44:41.000 Hear, hear!

00:44:41.000 Right, probably didn't.

00:44:42.000 It should retrograde to, retrocede back to the United Kingdom.

00:44:46.000 Yes.

00:44:47.000 So, I'm joking, but when I see these Republican electoral candidates cast their procedural votes and everybody says they're not official, they're illegitimate or whatever, I'm like, the Founding Fathers, I was reading about this, they're like, by what appointment or election did they become the representatives for the Continental Congress?

00:45:03.000 Like, it's actually random.

00:45:05.000 There was no uniform policy between different states as to who would go.

00:45:08.000 And a lot of people felt they didn't actually represent the state at all.

00:45:11.000 Because many people were loyalists and were like, we don't want a revolution.

00:45:14.000 Stop.

00:45:15.000 We don't want the violence.

00:45:16.000 And, in fact, there's really interesting writing about how, you know, What was going on, the conflict at the Crown, was not worth it because too many people were dying and it was too much chaos and it was better to just pay your taxes and shut up.

00:45:29.000 A lot of what we see now for many of these Democrat cities, as the governors, you know, pass these edicts destroying everything, they're like, well, well, no, you know, calm down.

00:45:38.000 Actually, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that was wrong.

00:45:40.000 I should say conservatives are doing that right now.

00:45:42.000 Conservatives are the ones who are like, you know, and I don't mean Trump supporters or all conservatives, but they're the ones who are just like, You know, the Republicans who are saying we have to vote Republican for the Senate, meanwhile they won't actually fight for anything.

00:45:55.000 The Democrats are screaming at the top of their lungs, non-stop demanding things, and they get it.

00:46:00.000 The Republicans are just sitting there going like, uh, in a minute, and then sure, fine, you can have whatever you want, and they're not doing anything.

00:46:06.000 So, we're at that point.

00:46:07.000 And the governors just absolutely abuse their citizens. As I'm pulling up a story, I just looked at a story here

00:46:13.000 randomly on Twitter of an incident where in New York City police officers went undercover to order food in a

00:46:19.000 restaurant and then they arrested the restaurant owner. 0.92

00:46:23.000 Arrested?

00:46:23.000 After secretly, yes, dressing up as normal citizens and they walked in the business.

00:46:28.000 Yes, this is a story.

00:46:28.000 I could send it to you, Lydia, if you want right now, but this is in New York City, just another... The story just broke 40 minutes ago, but this is another just egregious example.

00:46:39.000 Don't tread on me.

00:46:41.000 All it does is tread.

00:46:43.000 I sent you the story, Lydia.

00:46:44.000 All it does is tread.

00:46:45.000 What is the flag from the left, the fist crushing the snake saying, we will tread?

00:46:50.000 Congratulations!

00:46:51.000 You elected these people.

00:46:52.000 They had a banner like that.

00:46:53.000 Yes, I know.

00:46:54.000 It's the fist crushing the snake.

00:46:55.000 And what's really funny, it's very similar to a Nazi propaganda of the fist squeezing the snake. 0.56

00:47:00.000 Would you be interested in starting a new political party?

00:47:02.000 The MAGA party? 0.69

00:47:03.000 The MAGA party? 0.69

00:47:04.000 I don't think I'd want to start THE MAGA party, but I certainly think that there are opportunities for new political organizations.

00:47:10.000 It's happened before.

00:47:11.000 We've seen it happen in the United States.

00:47:13.000 There's precedent.

00:47:14.000 There's no reason why it couldn't happen today.

00:47:16.000 I'm sure back then they said it shouldn't happen then either.

00:47:18.000 Trump supporters should just do it.

00:47:21.000 You're not getting what you want from the Republican Party.

00:47:23.000 The Republican Party has not gonna fight for you, hasn't fought for you, and that's why Trump happened.

00:47:28.000 Trump came about because the Republicans weren't serving the American people the way they wanted them to.

00:47:33.000 Indeed.

00:47:34.000 And so Trump gets elected.

00:47:35.000 And now once these establishment cronies get their first chance, they're like, Here's the thing, a political party could change very, very quickly because what we're talking about is the MAGA network.

00:47:44.000 The network is what launched Trump into office over the objections of all of the GOP establishments still to this day.

00:47:51.000 And that network still exists and that network still wants action.

00:47:54.000 And with proper alignment, a plausible promise, that network's direction could be just pointed in a different way.

00:48:01.000 And if you look at American history, political parties realign all the time, and have throughout the beginning of the U.S.

00:48:08.000 Constitution, and we are kind of seeing that happening right now, where a lot of the values of the left, and even in the year 2000, are becoming the values of the right, which is becoming anti-war, pro-free speech, which is something that we never thought would be something that Republicans would be kind of representing, or not even Republicans, people on the right, which I think is a more fair example of saying.

00:48:28.000 But here's the problem.

00:48:30.000 When we have these guests on the show who are in their 20s and they're Democrats who voted for Biden, they were children when Occupy Wall Street was happening.

00:48:39.000 They were toddlers when George W. Bush was starting these wars.

00:48:44.000 They weren't alive, many of them, when 9-11 happened.

00:48:48.000 Or they were babies or completely unaware.

00:48:50.000 That's why I brought 9-11 up here. 0.54

00:48:53.000 I was at Occupy Wall Street.

00:48:54.000 Luke was at Occupy Wall Street.

00:48:55.000 Ian, you were at Occupy Wall Street.

00:48:56.000 We all sort of experienced this and we're, you know, a bit older than these younger guys.

00:49:01.000 We are now finding ourselves as, you know, like you, Jack, Democrat to deplorable.

00:49:07.000 Me as, you know, milquetoast centrist, but I did vote for Trump because I think it was the right choice.

00:49:12.000 And then these younger people who didn't experience the Obama administration to the full effects don't know anything about it.

00:49:17.000 So the left is courting young people who are, I'm going to say it, low information.

00:49:23.000 They don't know anything about this, and they're being exploited.

00:49:26.000 Then the only alternative for people like us is, we need an alternative, so we go to the Republicans.

00:49:30.000 And that creates a cycle where the country always veers left.

00:49:35.000 Always.

00:49:37.000 And it won't stop.

00:49:37.000 That's a problem.

00:49:38.000 There needs to be a point where we have principled conservatism that stays where it is, and then principled, sort of, I don't want to say leftism, but maybe Social liberalism or some left-leaning policies, and a real negotiation on how far is too far in either direction.

00:49:52.000 It doesn't happen.

00:49:53.000 It's just always going to the left.

00:49:54.000 The Republicans don't fight for anything.

00:49:56.000 I don't know if you heard what Michael Malice said.

00:49:58.000 He made a really good point.

00:49:59.000 I keep bringing it up, but I have to.

00:50:00.000 When Obama got his way and said, you are legally obligated to buy health insurance or pay a fine, where were the Republicans to say, okay, we'll negotiate there.

00:50:10.000 We will absolutely give you your individual mandate, and we want one of our own.

00:50:14.000 Everyone must buy a gun, otherwise pay a fine.

00:50:17.000 Where is the inversion?

00:50:18.000 Where is the other side of that argument?

00:50:20.000 The give and the take, yeah.

00:50:21.000 There's none.

00:50:21.000 It's Republicans going, we think you should slow down.

00:50:24.000 And they say, no.

00:50:26.000 And then the Republicans say, slow down.

00:50:27.000 And then a year goes by and the Republicans are like, okay, fine, you can have it.

00:50:31.000 There's nothing resisting.

00:50:32.000 So here we are, you know, I grew up a punk rock skateboarder and voted for Trump.

00:50:38.000 And you were a Democrat, voted for Trump.

00:50:40.000 And why?

00:50:41.000 Because they changed on social issues.

00:50:43.000 I think that's fine, you know, progress on social issues and civil liberties and stuff.

00:50:47.000 But if it's changing the economic policy in a way that's destroying everything, we've got a serious problem.

00:50:51.000 And that's what's basically happening.

00:50:54.000 It's a constant quest for power, where you have one side that demands it and takes it, and another side, the Republicans, who are just like basically holding a rope and being dragged along the way.

00:51:04.000 9 million people changed their vote from Obama to Trump in 2016.

00:51:09.000 I wonder if that number grew significantly in this last election.

00:51:13.000 It just doesn't seem to have been enough.

00:51:15.000 Don't forget that he only won in 2016 77,000 votes across three states and just a handful of counties really made the difference.

00:51:23.000 How do you feel about a peaceful divorce?

00:51:26.000 I'm all for it.

00:51:27.000 But I'm not.

00:51:28.000 A lot of people are, man.

00:51:29.000 Let me just qualify this.

00:51:31.000 I'm all for it in like a brainstorming session.

00:51:33.000 We'd have to get into some real brass tacks to actually make it work.

00:51:36.000 But as I was driving up here today, I was thinking, how could we actually get a peaceful sorting?

00:51:42.000 And one way I thought about doing that is maybe if we eliminate, and this is all pie in the sky nonsense, right?

00:51:47.000 But maybe if we eliminate the federal income tax and you put all the social welfare stuff on the states, and then people can just vote.

00:51:54.000 You'd be like, I want to live in a high tax, high social welfare state.

00:51:57.000 And you go there and you pay your taxes.

00:51:59.000 Everybody gets their social welfare.

00:52:01.000 I want to live in a low state, low social welfare or low tax.

00:52:04.000 I'm going to go move there and really make it about money.

00:52:07.000 And then let's just see what happens.

00:52:09.000 I mean, it kind of is that way.

00:52:10.000 Is it?

00:52:12.000 I mean, federal income tax is pretty big, dude.

00:52:15.000 Sure, sure.

00:52:15.000 I know.

00:52:16.000 But you're basically saying cut taxes.

00:52:17.000 No, I'm saying shift the structure around so that people can make choices within this structure right now.

00:52:26.000 We're gonna buy a big ol' farmland in the middle of West Virginia.

00:52:29.000 Specifically because you can do things in West Virginia you can't do other places. 0.99

00:52:32.000 You can just, like, point a gun and shoot it. 0.99

00:52:34.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding. 0.96

00:52:35.000 But the federal income tax could also go up to 80% and you're still living in West Virginia.

00:52:39.000 Right, right, right.

00:52:40.000 And the anti-gun laws that Biden's gonna be passing are gonna be affecting everyone federally.

00:52:44.000 That's when I think we're dangerously close to the point where even liberals' brains are gonna explode.

00:52:51.000 Because you can only sit back for so long.

00:52:54.000 So, listen, I'm gonna pull up these stories.

00:52:56.000 We got this story.

00:52:56.000 This is the one Luke just mentioned.

00:52:58.000 Undercover cops order food, then arrest bar owner for defying NYC indoor dining rules. 0.99

00:53:05.000 Look at this smug, disgusting, despicable man, Cuomo. 0.99

00:53:09.000 He literally killed 6,000 people by putting sick COVID patients in nursing homes. 1.00

00:53:15.000 He is, in my opinion, a murderer who set policies forth that they should have known, that I can't imagine they didn't know.

00:53:22.000 At the very least, fine.

00:53:23.000 I'll tone it down a little bit.

00:53:25.000 He's responsible for the negligent homicide of 6,000 elderly folks by putting COVID patients in these buildings.

00:53:30.000 Now what is he doing?

00:53:31.000 His police, oath breakers, New York police officers, arrested a bar owner for violating COVID restrictions after executing a sting in which they ordered food from the restaurant, AP reported.

00:53:42.000 The New York City Sheriff's deputies entered Mac's public house in Staten Island, New York and ordered $40 worth of food and beverages, according to a Sheriff's Office press release.

00:53:50.000 Congratulations, guys!

00:53:52.000 You got him!

00:53:53.000 Selling that food.

00:53:54.000 That's contraband in New York City.

00:53:56.000 The Sheriff's officers are wannabe cops, Mark Fonte, a lawyer who represents the bar, told the Staten Island Advance.

00:54:01.000 This is what happens when little people get a little power. 0.88

00:54:03.000 Each one of them will have to answer to a federal judge.

00:54:06.000 Oath breakers. 0.69

00:54:08.000 Praetorian Guard for unconstitutional edict that was never passed.

00:54:12.000 At a certain point, the state legislators stopped saying we're going to pass laws.

00:54:16.000 And it's all relatively recent.

00:54:18.000 Check this one out.

00:54:19.000 This is probably the most insane thing I've seen in a long time.

00:54:22.000 Did you hear this?

00:54:23.000 Cuomo signs bill banning the sale of Confederate flags on New York state grounds and other hate symbols.

00:54:29.000 Clearly, admittedly, according to Cuomo, in violation of the First Amendment.

00:54:33.000 Probably New York's constitution as well.

00:54:36.000 Doesn't care.

00:54:36.000 They just do it.

00:54:37.000 And do the police care?

00:54:39.000 Nah.

00:54:39.000 So you know what at this point?

00:54:41.000 Look, I moved out of these places.

00:54:43.000 You got Antifa setting up their autonomous zones.

00:54:45.000 Quite literally don't care.

00:54:46.000 Have it.

00:54:47.000 Have at it, bro.

00:54:48.000 I don't care.

00:54:48.000 Have Portland.

00:54:49.000 Have Seattle.

00:54:50.000 Take it.

00:54:51.000 Give them New York. 1.00

00:54:52.000 When we saw these riots, I was very much like, dude, defunding and abolishing the police is stupid. 1.00

00:54:56.000 You know why? 0.98

00:54:57.000 Because you need, in a civilized society, and this is like a lot of intellectual dark webs, this is Brett Weinstein said, police need to be able to make arrests.

00:55:04.000 Someone is going to commit a crime, and we need a system by which they can reasonably identify somebody, arrest them, and bring them in, and so we have these laws.

00:55:11.000 It makes sense.

00:55:12.000 I am not an anarchist.

00:55:14.000 Luke, maybe you disagree.

00:55:15.000 Michael Malice disagrees.

00:55:16.000 But I think police, aside from a lot of the dumb stuff, you know, the quotas, fines, or whatever, We need to be able to call a cop and say, you are the essential first layer of defense for when a crime is committed.

00:55:27.000 I report it to you as an official, you know, arbiter.

00:55:30.000 You're neutral, you're not, you know, in many cases.

00:55:33.000 Then it goes to the courts, the DAs, and that's the process we have.

00:55:36.000 I respect that in a lot of ways.

00:55:37.000 But right now, I don't care anymore.

00:55:39.000 I left these places because these cops have no allegiance to the law, to the Constitution.

00:55:44.000 They are criminals at this point, well beyond my tolerance level.

00:55:47.000 So let me just say one more thing.

00:55:49.000 When Michael Mouse was on the show and he mentioned that in New York City we have a constitutional right to bear arms, but these cops don't let him. 0.81

00:55:56.000 They are criminals.

00:55:57.000 And for me, that's not my threshold. 0.75

00:55:59.000 I see his point.

00:56:00.000 You know what?

00:56:00.000 I kind of agree with him now.

00:56:01.000 Now when I see this stuff, the cops arresting a dude for selling food? 0.53

00:56:06.000 These people are despotic. 1.00

00:56:09.000 They are psychopaths. 1.00

00:56:10.000 And you know what, man? 0.98

00:56:13.000 If I was given the powers of the Emperor, I'd be like, those officers' badges removed, pensions revoked.

00:56:20.000 Exile.

00:56:20.000 Away.

00:56:21.000 Gone. 1.00

00:56:21.000 You are a criminal as far as I can tell. 1.00

00:56:23.000 I won't lock him up, but get out of here. 0.98

00:56:25.000 Well, Tim, one thing you have to understand, these police officers are political.

00:56:28.000 They're not apolitical.

00:56:30.000 They're very political when they're following through on these decrees that haven't even been officially passed by the kind of rule of law that everyone accepts everyone to go by.

00:56:38.000 There's even official case law where the New York City Police Department argued that they don't have to do anything.

00:56:45.000 They don't have to help anyone during a moment of... You interviewed the guy.

00:56:50.000 Yeah, the cops like watch the dude get stabbed.

00:56:53.000 Yes, there was a mass murderer running around, Joe Lizito, a guy who looked very similar to you, I don't know if you know about the story of Joe Lizito, amazing human being, this random guy starts trying to kill people on the subway, he intervenes, he gets stabbed up, he takes him down, the police officers are literally standing there right next to him watching him as he's getting stabbed in his skull with a huge butcher knife.

00:57:16.000 Right then as he subdued by Joe as the police officers ... are literally watching the whole time this whole ... intercation with guns with batons not doing anything ... literally they take Joe off put the suspect in handcuffs ... and they wait there for a long time Joe wakes up in the ... hospital almost lost his life.

00:57:35.000 It was an inch away from losing his life because of the blood loss, because of the time it took the NYPD to figure out what was going on.

00:57:42.000 The train was in the middle of the tracks and they took him a very long time to get them to the next track to get Joe into an ambulance.

00:57:48.000 He wakes up and he has the mayor there congratulating these police officers who are deemed heroes of Who saved the innocent people and they called Joe an innocent person.

00:57:59.000 Joe took the NYPD to court, one for libel calling him a victim when he's the one that took down the perp with the knife as the police officers were literally standing there and the New York City Police Department argued and won successfully that they had no duty to help serve or protect anyone and that's the case law on the books right now that the police officers don't have to do or abide by any kind of Decree to do anything for you.

00:58:24.000 You know what?

00:58:26.000 These city cops lost all of my support.

00:58:29.000 All of it.

00:58:30.000 You know, it was bad enough when I called out the 27 cops who were guarding the Black Lives Matter mural.

00:58:35.000 It was illegally painted. 0.80

00:58:37.000 It basically seized taxpayer dollars to paint a political slogan to send a message to Trump, which was just insane and irresponsible.

00:58:45.000 And these cops gleefully defended what was clearly illegal.

00:58:49.000 They don't care.

00:58:51.000 They're breaking their oath, and I said, of those cops, take their pension away.

00:58:56.000 Strip them of everything and kick them out.

00:58:58.000 Take their badges, and I want to see them- Look, you're done.

00:59:01.000 You're gone.

00:59:01.000 Get out.

00:59:02.000 At this point, I don't live in these cities.

00:59:05.000 Okay?

00:59:05.000 I left.

00:59:06.000 I was in the Philly suburbs.

00:59:07.000 It was actually a fairly nice place.

00:59:09.000 Our local department was really, really nice.

00:59:11.000 And we're now, essentially, nearly to the point where we're officially moved away.

00:59:16.000 And I was like, it's insane to say defund the police because most police departments are not big city police departments.

00:59:22.000 Big city police departments are big, massive with huge budgets like New York's was like six million dollars, but most departments are not.

00:59:29.000 And so you got to make sure you differentiate between what the left is saying when they say defund the police, Well, they're talking specifically about the big city cops, right?

00:59:37.000 They're talking about the places where they vote for these people, these mayors.

00:59:41.000 They vote for these politicians, these representatives and these governors.

00:59:45.000 And then these cops get appointed.

00:59:47.000 So your beef is where you live.

00:59:49.000 And you know what I realized?

00:59:50.000 I was like, you know, it's a really good point.

00:59:51.000 Why do I care if Antifa sets up an autonomous zone?

00:59:54.000 I'm not going to go there.

00:59:55.000 I don't live there.

00:59:55.000 And the people who live there vote for the politicians and the DAs who allow it to happen.

00:59:59.000 They must like it.

01:00:00.000 So far be it from me to tell them the way they should live.

01:00:04.000 If they voted for it, and it's being allowed, more power to you Antifa.

01:00:08.000 Congratulations on your autonomous zone.

01:00:09.000 You're not going to see any resistance from me.

01:00:10.000 And I'll tell you this, the cops who are there and are fighting with them, I think those cops are in the wrong.

01:00:16.000 You can't...

01:00:18.000 Allow this to happen.

01:00:19.000 The DAs, the people vote for it, and the cops try and go and shut it down.

01:00:21.000 Nah, at this point, if you in Oregon want, as an officer, are gonna shut down these businesses by edict, and, you know, violate the rights of individuals, then why should I care if the people say this is allowed?

01:00:35.000 If the DA says they're allowed to do it, then so be it.

01:00:37.000 What if someone set up an autonomous zone in your backyard?

01:00:40.000 That's different.

01:00:41.000 You call the cops?

01:00:43.000 Uh, in my backyard right now?

01:00:44.000 Yeah.

01:00:44.000 On private property.

01:00:46.000 Probably not where we are, Ian.

01:00:48.000 And the laws of this current location.

01:00:51.000 I think if someone came onto my property, they'd... I would not call the police.

01:00:54.000 It's a bit rhetorical.

01:00:55.000 Yeah.

01:00:55.000 You would call the cops.

01:00:56.000 They're probably in trouble. 0.95

01:00:57.000 99, you might shoot them to death, but you know, ideally you'd call the cops because they're, someone's coming on private property. 0.81

01:01:02.000 So that's what those people do. 0.99

01:01:03.000 If so, bro, we're in the middle of nowhere.

01:01:05.000 It's pitch black outside.

01:01:06.000 If people are lurking on my property, they're gonna be in serious trouble.

01:01:09.000 It's not like, look, when I lived on a farm in Miami, the only weapon we had was a .22 break barrel pellet rifle.

01:01:17.000 Because, like, we were not gun people at the time, especially me.

01:01:19.000 It was, like, fun.

01:01:20.000 We were just, like, shooting targets in the backyard.

01:01:22.000 And one day, someone jumped the six-foot fence surrounding our property on a five-acre plot, and there's... You call the cops?

01:01:29.000 Congratulations, they'll be here in 40 minutes.

01:01:31.000 So what do we do?

01:01:32.000 Well, maybe it's not the smartest thing to have done, but I broke the barrel and dry fired it.

01:01:38.000 Bang! 1.00

01:01:39.000 And the person with the light ran back the way they came.

01:01:41.000 Gone.

01:01:42.000 If I called the police, they would have said, do you have a gun?

01:01:46.000 Well, then what do you want us to do?

01:01:48.000 We can't get there for 40 minutes.

01:01:49.000 You know, like where we are right now, like how long it would take?

01:01:53.000 No, no, no, no.

01:01:53.000 That's why we are armed.

01:01:55.000 And that's why I'm like, I'm out.

01:01:56.000 I'm out of Philly.

01:01:57.000 I'm responsible for myself.

01:01:59.000 If someone in Philly, one of the property, you know, one of my properties are doing something, I'd call the cops.

01:02:04.000 And the cops would, in most instances, promptly remove them.

01:02:08.000 And that's why I think, you know, I'm not blanket defund the police.

01:02:12.000 Because that's something they'll do.

01:02:14.000 They'll resolve the issue.

01:02:15.000 When a guy tried breaking into my other house, the cops showed up literally in like one minute.

01:02:19.000 It was amazing.

01:02:20.000 And the cop said to me, if it was me, I would answer the door with a shotgun.

01:02:24.000 And I'm like, bro, we're in New Jersey.

01:02:25.000 It's not that easy.

01:02:28.000 It's not that it's not that hard.

01:02:29.000 But you know, I have sympathy for the cops.

01:02:32.000 I talked to a lot of cops in DC.

01:02:33.000 I've got a lot of sources inside NPD and they are always constantly telling me how opposed they are to Mayor Bowser.

01:02:40.000 How opposed they are to the Black Lives Matter stuff on the street.

01:02:43.000 How opposed they are to the, uh, sort of rules of engagement that they have and the restrictions that are put on them and, and how difficult it is to check out riot gear and like all these things that make it even just harder for them to do their job, harder for them to be safe, et cetera.

01:02:58.000 There's a constant conflict there.

01:02:59.000 So, and, and the guys that staffed the DC.

01:03:02.000 What are they doing?

01:03:02.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:03:04.000 I hear you, I hear you.

01:03:05.000 The moment they go in undercover and arrest a guy for serving food is the moment I say, buh-bye!

01:03:10.000 I don't care what happens in your city.

01:03:12.000 You guys are attacking innocent people at this point.

01:03:16.000 You are harassing, you are degrading and berating and insulting and destroying the lives of regular people who are not hurting anybody.

01:03:24.000 So you know what?

01:03:25.000 You're on your own.

01:03:26.000 I don't care what New York does.

01:03:27.000 That's just a couple of guys. 0.95

01:03:28.000 That could have been just a couple of, you know, Angry jerks that I want to see that I want to see all of the NYPD Calling in a blue flu and saying this crossed the line. 0.93

01:03:38.000 We won't enforce it and they won't do that They won't stand back while riots happen They'll have the little slowdown as of course riots are hitting Fifth Avenue and they won't do anything then which they did in And leaving people helpless as of course people are just literally running down the street taking whatever they want. 0.90

01:03:53.000 That's literally what happened.

01:03:54.000 There was police officers during riots in New York City that were on the same block just standing by kicking rocks not doing anything.

01:04:00.000 Fox News was there two o'clock in the morning filming them be like, I don't know what's going on.

01:04:05.000 This huge shock on this Fox News reporter's face.

01:04:08.000 I can't believe the cops are just standing there and these guys are just running into all these stores and taking whatever they want.

01:04:13.000 What do you think was going to happen?

01:04:14.000 They did nothing.

01:04:15.000 Yes.

01:04:16.000 During the riots.

01:04:17.000 Exactly.

01:04:17.000 And in the moment Cuomo says, by decree, your life is destroyed, the police went, with pleasure.

01:04:25.000 Yeah, we're gonna go beat the crap out of people. 0.98

01:04:26.000 I'm gonna stick up for my DC MPD guys. 0.66

01:04:29.000 I think it's different in New York.

01:04:30.000 You know, that's just the vibe that I get from the cops in DC and what I observe on the street and as a citizen in DC.

01:04:36.000 And that's what I was trying to say just a moment ago.

01:04:38.000 Like, I'm not gonna blanket my small-town cops outside of the Philly area, because they were really awesome.

01:04:43.000 They did a great job.

01:04:44.000 But when you look at New York City, why should I care?

01:04:47.000 They defunded the cops a billion dollars?

01:04:49.000 Good.

01:04:50.000 I don't care.

01:04:50.000 These cops, they go undercover and sting a bar for serving food.

01:04:56.000 But what about during the riots?

01:04:58.000 Yeah, just the worst possible.

01:05:01.000 And so I look at Portland, and they got this new, you know, Red House Autonomous Zone.

01:05:07.000 They're like booby traps and stuff.

01:05:08.000 And I'm just like, you know what?

01:05:10.000 At this point, why should I support any of these guys in these cities?

01:05:13.000 They locked down Oregon.

01:05:14.000 They shut down these businesses.

01:05:16.000 And when the riots were going on, many of the cops, when they were told not to interact with the federal police, they said, okay.

01:05:22.000 And they were like, we wish we could help!

01:05:24.000 Bro, you're a human being.

01:05:25.000 You can make a choice.

01:05:26.000 Nothing's stopping you from making a choice.

01:05:28.000 Imagine if, like... Look at any comic book hero.

01:05:32.000 Look at, you know, the Marvel movie, Civil War.

01:05:34.000 Imagine if the heroes were all like, oh gosh darn it, they told us we couldn't go and fight the bad guy.

01:05:38.000 Oh well, and they just didn't.

01:05:39.000 You know, you may you bring up a good point with your with your joke.

01:05:43.000 It does take a superhero to resist to say no to a direct order to maybe perhaps violate what who knows what they believe the law is what their education level is on these decrees versus legislation, whatever.

01:05:57.000 It takes a hero to stand alone in a circumstance like that.

01:06:01.000 I'm not saying it justifies doing the sting.

01:06:04.000 Listen, listen.

01:06:04.000 I'm just saying, like, it does take a special... Well, we should be honest about this.

01:06:08.000 A lot of officers are self-serving.

01:06:09.000 A lot of officers, when they're given a choice, hey, do you want to have a paycheck for your family or you want to not have a paycheck for your family?

01:06:16.000 They're going to make the decision that's going to work out for them best.

01:06:19.000 And this is why we have them doing absurd things like ... dressing up as undercover average civilians and they and ... this is not the first time something like this has ... happened there was undercover officers dressing up as ... homeless people so they could get people for giving money ... in some institutions and in some places and also speeding.

01:06:39.000 One last pushback.

01:06:41.000 Humans in every industry do things that hurt other humans. 0.93

01:06:45.000 It's not just the cops.

01:06:46.000 But we should make people aware of that because people are under this illusion that they're there to protect and serve.

01:06:52.000 Get rid of that slogan and say, I am obeying my overlord.

01:06:56.000 That's a more accurate statement.

01:06:57.000 Here's the simple way I'll break it down.

01:06:59.000 When there are innocent people having their businesses destroyed who did nothing, I think the police do a good job when they stand up and they defend the city and they try to maintain order to the best of their abilities.

01:07:12.000 It's a very difficult position to be in. 0.97

01:07:13.000 And that's why I say, when Antifa is calling for defunding the police while burning everything down, I'm like, y'all are nuts. 0.99

01:07:19.000 But then what happens when, after you've said, thank you officer, you did a good job, he says, shut your goddamn mouth and cracks you in the mouth with a truncheon, and then he personally throws the brick through your window. 0.99

01:07:28.000 Now I'm like, bro, you're Antifa. 0.99

01:07:30.000 These cops, going to a guy's business and shutting it down?

01:07:33.000 That's exactly what Antifa was doing that I was complaining about.

01:07:35.000 The problem is when an individual, regardless of who they are, where they align, destroy the livelihood of the innocent.

01:07:41.000 And the cops are doing that now, so as far as I'm concerned, they're mud.

01:07:44.000 In New York City, sorry.

01:07:46.000 They're the same thing as Antifa was going around rioting, the cops are doing the same thing now.

01:07:50.000 So who do we get?

01:07:50.000 The feds?

01:07:51.000 Is Trump gonna send in somebody?

01:07:53.000 He should?

01:07:54.000 He probably could, but he's not gonna do anything like that, and he hasn't done anything like that.

01:07:58.000 And who else is gonna do it?

01:07:59.000 Nobody.

01:07:59.000 So listen, I wanna reference this one more time.

01:08:02.000 Cuomo banned the sale of Confederate flags.

01:08:05.000 Clearly in violation of the Constitution.

01:08:07.000 I don't like the Confederate flag, I don't care for that stuff.

01:08:09.000 But how are you going to be like, that constitution thing?

01:08:13.000 Screw off.

01:08:14.000 I don't care. 0.98

01:08:15.000 We're going to pass the law.

01:08:16.000 And then there's that viral video, I think it was out of California, where you had the, it was a Knicks Greek, I think it was, and the health inspector, the door was open. 0.97

01:08:23.000 They're like, your door is open.

01:08:24.000 So that's all that matters.

01:08:25.000 You're getting a fine.

01:08:26.000 That's just the law, sir.

01:08:27.000 And he goes, what law?

01:08:28.000 No law was ever passed.

01:08:30.000 There was no vote.

01:08:31.000 There was nothing.

01:08:32.000 It was just edict from some guy.

01:08:34.000 We don't care, sir. 0.99

01:08:36.000 These people are psychopaths, and we are in serious trouble. 0.84

01:08:40.000 Because we're at a point now where there's no cohesive culture, where people are like, we are a nation of laws, and we abide by the Constitution. 0.96

01:08:48.000 We're now a nation of people who are like, I don't know, just, you know, I was told to do it.

01:08:52.000 And the bureaucrats that were enforcing these laws that ... you were specifically mentioning at that restaurant ... were even screamed at by average civilians walking by ... saying why aren't you at Costco why aren't you at ... Walmart why are the big multinational corporations ... allowed to exist meanwhile small independent businesses ... are getting squashed out.

01:09:11.000 As these plutocrats are literally obsessing about a ... great reset and the redefinition of capitalism ... that of course will empower them with even more authority ... more regulations more rules and more bullcrap that will only ... happen because these officers are deciding to choose to ... listen to someone like Andrew come on if they decided to have ... a backbone some of them are there's a few Sheriff's in New ... York that decided and said no and of course what did Andrew ...

01:09:38.000 What did he say?

01:09:39.000 He said that they're dictators because ... they're choosing not to follow his own decrees and this is ... the person by the way that was also seriously accused of ... abusing a female counterpart which again a lot of people in ... the mainstream media aren't talking about especially CNN ... MSNBC but most importantly Joe Biden is considering this ... man that just banned the the Confederate flag like like in ... New York we have so many problems we have so many issues ...

01:10:04.000 But this man's main objective is to ban a symbol that ... no one really cares about in New York anyway that does ... nothing just virtual signal to people how much of an ... authoritarian is this man might be the next Attorney ... General of the United States imagine the chaos the pain and ... suffering that he will cause when he has more power ... underneath him and more willing servants more obeyers ... that of course will follow out every one of his orders ... without even thinking about it.

01:10:32.000 Andrew Cuomo instructed sick COVID patients into nursing homes, killing about 6,500 people.

01:10:37.000 Meanwhile, there was hospitals all over New York City.

01:10:40.000 The Javits Center was empty.

01:10:42.000 We had a whole huge naval ship brought in.

01:10:45.000 That was an entire hospital.

01:10:46.000 Central Park, field hospitals.

01:10:48.000 They didn't use it.

01:10:48.000 Nothing.

01:10:49.000 And then sick, elderly patients sent back to nurse wards.

01:10:52.000 This is why I will say, in my opinion, the only explanation is that Cuomo did it on purpose.

01:10:58.000 He was laughing and smiling and he said, we got COVID patients.

01:11:02.000 Put him in the nursing homes.

01:11:04.000 But sir, the Javits Center is only at 30% capacity.

01:11:07.000 I said, put him in the nursing homes! 1.00

01:11:09.000 Yes sir, I'll do whatever you say because I'm a bootlicker.

01:11:11.000 Dude, he's a... The son of a gun won an Emmy!

01:11:14.000 He won an Emmy!

01:11:15.000 For his work!

01:11:16.000 And then wrote a book!

01:11:17.000 And then he wrote a book!

01:11:19.000 So congratulating himself about what a great job he did.

01:11:22.000 Meanwhile, he had the highest death record than, I think, anywhere else in the United States.

01:11:26.000 Yeah.

01:11:26.000 Are you freaking kidding me?

01:11:28.000 And this is going to be the next Attorney General of the United States?

01:11:30.000 No, he's not.

01:11:31.000 Who's the girl that he is now?

01:11:32.000 What do you mean?

01:11:32.000 That's Biden's number one.

01:11:33.000 I'm just trying to put it out there.

01:11:34.000 I don't want him to be.

01:11:35.000 That's the number one candidate for Joe Biden right now.

01:11:37.000 Dude, he got the job because of his daddy.

01:11:38.000 Because Mario Cuomo, he's got the name.

01:11:40.000 He's got a frown on his face.

01:11:42.000 Let's hold on a second.

01:11:44.000 Jack, you saw what the Proud Boys were doing.

01:11:47.000 In D.C.

01:11:48.000 Last weekend.

01:11:48.000 Looked a whole lot like Antifa to me.

01:11:51.000 Oh, so we're going to start off like that, aren't we, Tim?

01:11:53.000 Are we?

01:11:54.000 I'm not a proud boy, and I'm not here to carry any water for them whatsoever.

01:11:58.000 But how do you want to talk about it?

01:11:59.000 I saw them tearing down banners, lighting them on fire, and I've seen Antifa stealing flags and lighting them on fire.

01:12:05.000 And I think stealing someone's private property and destroying it is wrong.

01:12:09.000 I think if you want to have a symbol of your political belief, you're allowed to do it.

01:12:12.000 We have to respect these boundaries.

01:12:14.000 I agree with almost everything of what you said there, except for the last one.

01:12:18.000 But hold on.

01:12:19.000 The point of this is not for me to rag on the Proud Boys.

01:12:22.000 This is actually me defending the Proud Boys.

01:12:23.000 Okay.

01:12:24.000 When they do, which is not even as bad as Antifa, because Antifa attacks innocent regular people and threatens innocent regular people.

01:12:32.000 Now, it was wrong because the churches that the Proud Boys ripped the banners off of were innocent, but it's not to the same scale of Antifa, you know, chasing people down the street and beating them.

01:12:42.000 The Proud Boys are facing hate crime charges.

01:12:44.000 Hate crime charges.

01:12:45.000 Possible.

01:12:46.000 Possible.

01:12:47.000 And wasn't it the Proud Boys who got, they were the ones who got stabbed?

01:12:50.000 Proud Boys got stabbed.

01:12:51.000 Critical condition.

01:12:52.000 Three of them got stabbed in an altercation.

01:12:54.000 It's unclear as to who provoked the altercation in the first place.

01:12:59.000 And the Daily Mail admitted the knife from the photo that they showed.

01:13:05.000 So listen, here's the first point I want to make starting this off and then we'll carry on.

01:13:09.000 The reason I bring this up in the context of our previous conversation.

01:13:12.000 Yes, sir.

01:13:12.000 Antifa can go around and doing it for years.

01:13:14.000 Yes.

01:13:15.000 The Proud Boys go and do something not even to the same degree, but similar.

01:13:18.000 And immediately, the cops are like, hate crime, investigation, we're taking these guys down.

01:13:24.000 Okay, so I have guys on the inside at MPD.

01:13:26.000 We've been talking about this.

01:13:27.000 They've been talking to me.

01:13:28.000 I've been on this story thinking about it.

01:13:30.000 And first things first is if you burn a Black Lives Matter banner, that's not a crime, right?

01:13:38.000 If you print up a sign that looks exactly like all the other signs and you take it out in the street and you burn it, no problem.

01:13:44.000 If you find a Black Lives Matter banner on the ground and you pick it up and you burn it, no problem. 0.54

01:13:51.000 If you if you happen to be in possession of it and you burn it, no problem.

01:13:55.000 The only time that it's a problem is if you if you if you steal it.

01:13:59.000 Yes.

01:13:59.000 Right.

01:14:00.000 And so I don't know that there was they don't have any direct video evidence.

01:14:04.000 Maybe they weren't actually saying that there was confirmed theft.

01:14:08.000 First, so theft needs to come before destruction of private property, and then you have to have like hateful intent and bias and whatever.

01:14:15.000 So what happens is they saw the crime of the burning.

01:14:19.000 They wanted to prosecute.

01:14:20.000 It goes to the Twitter handle.

01:14:22.000 It's the police Twitter handle is the one that decides how to characterize it.

01:14:27.000 So I'm sure that's a political decision, right?

01:14:29.000 And then once it's characterized as a hate or bias crime, then it goes to some sort of liaison unit whose job it is for them to go and investigate.

01:14:36.000 And I have a feeling it will get lost somewhere in there.

01:14:39.000 First of all, they haven't been able to confirm or convict that they were theft in the first place.

01:14:43.000 And it's totally perfectly legal to take a Black Lives Matter banner, burn it, whatever. 0.95

01:14:47.000 So a lot of these guys that were surrounding it, there's no crime for them because as far as they knew, someone had a banner and they burned it.

01:14:52.000 Correct.

01:14:53.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.000 Correct.

01:14:53.000 The only time it would be a crime is if somebody was witnessed and saw them and was confirmed that they stole it from another.

01:14:59.000 Even though it has the church's logo on it, if they found it on the street and burned it, still not a crime.

01:15:04.000 Yeah.

01:15:05.000 But the interesting thing is you're right about the hate crime.

01:15:07.000 It's like, Black Lives Matter is such an exquisitely crafted phrase that it is at once a political movement, it's at once a statement of some sort of fact, and it's at once something that tugs on your heartstrings about being a racist or not.

01:15:22.000 But the truth is, it means different things to different people.

01:15:26.000 When the church puts it up on there, I'm sure they really mean like Black Lives Matter. 0.99

01:15:29.000 We should just, let's not have black people die. 0.99

01:15:31.000 It's a church. 1.00

01:15:32.000 It's a church.

01:15:32.000 That doesn't, that doesn't mean that they're going to be acting in the right way all the time.

01:15:36.000 Of course, any religious organization, that's not justification for them.

01:15:40.000 But it is clearly a political movement.

01:15:42.000 Right.

01:15:42.000 It's clearly an, like has, has funding with billions of dollars and they have initiatives and they have a platform.

01:15:49.000 10.6 billion dollars.

01:15:50.000 10.6 billion dollars.

01:15:51.000 And, and the juicy delicious part is watching the BLM groups fight about that money.

01:15:57.000 10.6 billion dollars.

01:15:59.000 Lydia found that one.

01:16:00.000 There's a schism.

01:16:01.000 There's a schism in the BLM chapters with the National and whatever.

01:16:04.000 They're fighting over the money.

01:16:06.000 And it just cracks me up to see them just going down the normal route.

01:16:10.000 But it's not a hate crime to burn a donkey or an elephant or even the flag.

01:16:15.000 The reason I bring this up is for one, yes, I want to be critical of what the Proud Boys did to a certain degree.

01:16:20.000 But also defend them in the sense that if the DAs allow this, if the media allows this for Antifa, then how could they come out with this double standard?

01:16:29.000 It just shows you the media clearly doesn't represent the people.

01:16:33.000 It's all ideological.

01:16:35.000 And that brings me back to some of the earlier stuff we were talking about.

01:16:38.000 The election, the numbers, none of it matters.

01:16:41.000 It just matters what people choose to believe and what to fight for.

01:16:44.000 So when I look at these, I'll just put it, I'll be more general so I don't single anybody out.

01:16:51.000 There are too many instances where conservatives were, say, defying lockdown and getting arrested.

01:16:58.000 And they were complying and not resisting.

01:17:00.000 And there are too many instances where the left literally beat the cops and then get their charges dropped.

01:17:07.000 That's how extreme the disparity is between the left and the right.

01:17:10.000 That antifa for this whole year... You know the Chiaz? 1.00

01:17:13.000 This is amazing, I learned this today.

01:17:14.000 You know Chiaz was never cleared out? 1.00

01:17:16.000 We thought that the Capitol Hill autonomous zone was gone, right?

01:17:20.000 No, they stayed in the Cal Anderson Park until now with tents, with barricades and everything.

01:17:26.000 I did not know that.

01:17:27.000 Nobody cared.

01:17:28.000 Because the city said we got rid of it and the main area, the streets were opened up, but the park itself remained occupied by these far leftists.

01:17:36.000 And it just sort of disappeared.

01:17:38.000 That was going on forever.

01:17:39.000 And in the meantime, we've had many stories of people defying lockdown and the NYPD shows up and arrests them.

01:17:47.000 How incredible is that at the far left can riot they can they can destroy things they can I'll tell you this we got a story where a guy Has a business.

01:17:57.000 It was called Rio's ribs and the neighboring building was burnt down and It caused damage to, like, the greater structure, I guess, or to the neighboring buildings.

01:18:05.000 And so he gave an interview where he was disparaging the rioters.

01:18:09.000 So the next day, on security footage, you can watch this.

01:18:12.000 They released the video just the other day.

01:18:14.000 A guy burns the man's business to the ground. 0.98

01:18:18.000 Don't you dare speak up against us, says this lunatic. 1.00

01:18:20.000 And so they threw burning trash. 0.98

01:18:22.000 And then he opens the gate to go back in and look and make sure the fire's catching.

01:18:26.000 And that's what happens with the far left.

01:18:28.000 And then what do we see?

01:18:29.000 The district attorneys in these places cut them loose. 0.97

01:18:32.000 Well, okay, you know what?

01:18:32.000 That's why I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't care about your city.

01:18:35.000 The arsonist's face was blurred.

01:18:37.000 In the actual newsroom, I'm like, who are they protecting?

01:18:40.000 Like, are they trying to catch this person?

01:18:42.000 Do they want to know who actually did this?

01:18:44.000 Who's actually burning down people's buildings for political reasons?

01:18:47.000 Because in these places, the far left is protected.

01:18:50.000 They can literally burn it down and the media's like, cover their face because we don't want to get murdered.

01:18:53.000 And then we have to understand George Soros is financing a lot of these attorney generals and going into local towns and smaller cities and saying, you know what, we're going to give them millions of dollars.

01:19:03.000 Let's be specific.

01:19:04.000 The, what is it called, the Open Society Foundation?

01:19:06.000 Yes.

01:19:06.000 That provides grants to nonprofits who then fund...

01:19:11.000 And they financed a lot of different ones that are creating and sowing havoc in big cities like San Francisco.

01:19:18.000 The San Francisco Attorney General is now the Los Angeles Attorney General and that's why a lot of people are saying what we saw in San Francisco with that entire mess.

01:19:25.000 I remember even a few months ago walking down the street in San Francisco covering the utter madness.

01:19:31.000 I was doing a random walk and talk video and I literally saw a woman screaming, police officers hearing it and walking the other direction.

01:19:39.000 There was crap I watched the lady walk into the middle of the street and she was like big fat lady and just drop trowel right there in the middle of the street just go at it and I was like whoa dude yeah I wasn't even looking for it I was literally at the Capitol and you just see a whole bunch of people all around it shooting up 0.91

01:19:58.000 urinating, crapping, and just totally out of it. 0.98

01:20:02.000 It seems like a zombie world out there, and this is because of these attorney generals.

01:20:05.000 Now Los Angeles has the same attorney general as they did in San Francisco.

01:20:09.000 Same guy supported by Soros, and a lot of people are expecting the same thing to happen as he's making similar kind of protocols.

01:20:15.000 Let me tie these ideas together real quick.

01:20:18.000 When I see Antifa now start acting a fool, targeting innocent businesses, I'll be mad.

01:20:25.000 But if I see far leftists setting up autonomous zones, Don't care. 0.97

01:20:28.000 Because I see these cops abusing regular people and attacking the innocent.

01:20:33.000 Not all cops, but in these places.

01:20:36.000 And I'll tell you this.

01:20:38.000 There's a meme that goes around from the left.

01:20:40.000 They say, it's really funny.

01:20:41.000 If you have 1,300 good cops and 12, uh, you have 1,312 cops, 1,300 are really good people

01:20:48.000 who stand by the law and the constitution, but 12 of them are criminals who keep breaking the law.

01:20:52.000 And that 1,300 doesn't say anything to stop the criminals.

01:20:56.000 Then you have 1,312 bad cops.

01:20:59.000 That's the meme.

01:20:59.000 You know why?

01:21:01.000 1312, ACAB, all cops are bad.

01:21:04.000 I don't agree with that, but in New York City specifically, If these cops know it's happening, and they keep doing that job, without protest, without standing up to defend the people of that city, then I think they're just- they're not cops.

01:21:17.000 It's the Praetorian Guard for the Emperor.

01:21:19.000 For the Empire State.

01:21:20.000 That's Cuomo.

01:21:21.000 Cuomo is passing edict.

01:21:23.000 He sits there and he goes, I can do whatever I want.

01:21:25.000 Churches?

01:21:25.000 Gone.

01:21:26.000 Symbols I don't like?

01:21:27.000 Gone.

01:21:28.000 Supreme Court decision goes against them?

01:21:29.000 Irrelevant.

01:21:30.000 I'll just make a new one.

01:21:31.000 And the cops go, hey, we don't care what SCOTUS says.

01:21:34.000 We don't care what the Constitution says.

01:21:35.000 We just want that sweet, sweet Skrilla from our emperor.

01:21:39.000 I think that I agree with that.

01:21:40.000 I think I agree with the 1312 thing, not to put it that way.

01:21:44.000 But I think that if you have 1300 cops who are watching 12 cops do bad things and do nothing to stop it, What do you have to say for the other 1,300 cops?

01:21:53.000 Why are you not stepping in?

01:21:54.000 Why are you not speaking up?

01:21:55.000 You see what's happening and you do nothing.

01:21:57.000 Like, what kind of mindset is in these police departments that they think it's okay that they just let this happen?

01:22:03.000 Let's break it down, you know, to get more to the heart of the principle.

01:22:07.000 When I see Black Lives Matter complaining about innocent people dying, I completely sympathize, I empathize. 1.00

01:22:11.000 I don't like that.

01:22:11.000 That's a violation of every constitutional right to take someone's life.

01:22:15.000 But in many of these circumstances, they're... It's unclear.

01:22:19.000 It's not clear-cut that the cop was just like, ha ha ha, I'm gonna kill this man!

01:22:23.000 A lot of times, it's like a very serious conflict, and we have a political debate, we wanna know what's gonna happen.

01:22:27.000 George Floyd.

01:22:28.000 Most of us who came out, when that story came out, we were like, dude, that's wrong, we don't like what we saw.

01:22:32.000 And then later we learned a bunch of new details, and you're like, ah, see, things change.

01:22:37.000 But it's pretty clear-cut when a cop dresses up in civilian clothes and then arrests a restaurateur during an economic crisis where people are going homeless, where they're expecting hundreds of millions to starve, and the cops are just stomping people into the ground.

01:22:53.000 That is clear-cut.

01:22:54.000 No political debate.

01:22:55.000 And there's record homelessness now in New York City, and there was an article highlighting some of the pictures of people living on the streets.

01:23:02.000 If you want to talk about unsanitary health conditions, that's it right there.

01:23:07.000 There's people with scabs and scabies and all these kind of horrible illnesses because they have nowhere else to go that are literally... I mean, all the housing that they provide for them, a lot of it is filled up.

01:23:17.000 There's an argument that some people make that the homeless people don't want to go to some of these housing, but The housing is getting filled up because of the horrible economic situation that has been created by the government.

01:23:28.000 Here's, you want to know the best part about all this?

01:23:31.000 In Seattle, in Washington and in Oregon where they're having these lockdowns, like many other places, and the police are enforcing it, well, look, the CDC said, right?

01:23:41.000 The CDC was like, you got a lockdown?

01:23:42.000 Okay.

01:23:43.000 The CDC also said homeless encampments must remain.

01:23:46.000 It's safer to let them stay than to clear them out.

01:23:49.000 At the same time that the police are saying, we gotta follow the CDC orders and shut down your business, sorry.

01:23:56.000 They're turning around and clearing out homeless encampments in defiance of the CDC.

01:24:00.000 You can't have it both ways.

01:24:01.000 Either you're enforcing the safety of the people because of the pandemic, or you're just crushing the weak.

01:24:07.000 I think this is a good time for me to pitch a movie that I'm in coming up.

01:24:10.000 Lauren's Southern movie, Crossfire, covers all of these issues in depth.

01:24:16.000 And it's very even handed and fair and honest.

01:24:19.000 And it really takes a good hard look at the perspective of the police officers, the Black Lives Matter folks.

01:24:26.000 It goes in depth on Antifa.

01:24:28.000 It really does discuss some of these contradictions and where do your loyalties lie?

01:24:32.000 What's it like?

01:24:33.000 You know, being a guy that does good most of the time but then witnesses something that is illegal or wrong.

01:24:38.000 It's very well done.

01:24:40.000 There's a lot of good people in it.

01:24:41.000 Elijah Schaffer is in it and Mike Cernovich and Jack and a few others.

01:24:46.000 It's well worth the view.

01:24:48.000 You should check it out.

01:24:49.000 Wasn't there like an excerpt talking about the dangers of being a police officer?

01:24:53.000 But isn't there like a statistic that as far as employment, police officers are ranked, what is it, 13th?

01:24:59.000 Or I think even lower on the ranking of deadliest jobs out there?

01:25:04.000 But I disagree with that.

01:25:06.000 Because you gotta understand the difference in the danger from being like a petroleum engineer and being a cop.

01:25:11.000 A petroleum engineer, it's like, you do everything right and sometimes there's a faulty error and something blows and then you get knocked into the ocean or whatever.

01:25:17.000 Being a cop, it's like, you don't know which person is gonna be the person who's scared and wants to flee or has a warrant, so they're gonna pull a gun.

01:25:24.000 Well, I'm not, I'm not making, you know, that kind of argument that it's, you know, totally a safe and wonderful, amazing job.

01:25:30.000 As a police officer, we have to understand the other side of it because they are dealing with the worst elements of our society.

01:25:36.000 And if you're around that every day, that's going to affect your psyche.

01:25:39.000 And that's why with most police officers, we see a higher rate of spousal abuse and also substance abuse than we do with any other profession out there.

01:25:47.000 Since of course, I think there is something to say about people being affected by their environment.

01:25:52.000 Correlation.

01:25:53.000 Yeah.

01:25:53.000 You're right.

01:25:54.000 You're absolutely right.

01:25:54.000 It could be that people who are prone to drug abuse and spousal abuse like to take risks like adrenaline like being violent

01:26:01.000 So they end up being cops. You don't know you don't know but I will say you're right

01:26:05.000 You're absolutely does address this very issue talks about PTSD among the police. So what you're saying is that all

01:26:12.000 cops are drug addicts?

01:26:12.000 I'm just kidding.

01:26:14.000 And I said, Civil War!

01:26:16.000 Let's go!

01:26:18.000 But it's really worth it because it really, Scooter Downie, also, and John Detroit, who worked on Hoaxed with Mike Cernovich, they did the direction and the producing.

01:26:28.000 It's fantastic and really well thought out, so check it out.

01:26:30.000 Crossfire.

01:26:31.000 You know, this past year has really made me just a very personal responsibility person.

01:26:37.000 And much more libertarian.

01:26:39.000 Very, very libertarian.

01:26:40.000 Two things happened.

01:26:42.000 You got older and a little bit, you know, a little bit more to conserve, let's say.

01:26:48.000 I don't think getting older played a role in it.

01:26:50.000 I think it was earlier this year I was like, no guns.

01:26:54.000 Yeah.

01:26:55.000 Yeah.

01:26:55.000 It was the riots.

01:26:56.000 The riots.

01:26:56.000 The riots and the cops standing down in many instances.

01:26:59.000 And I was like, wow, I can't rely on these police officers anymore.

01:27:02.000 What good are they?

01:27:03.000 Yeah.

01:27:04.000 But in these big cities, I said, these people are attacking the innocent.

01:27:06.000 We need someone to stop them.

01:27:07.000 That's what the cops are for.

01:27:09.000 Now the cops are the ones doing the boot-stomping, so I'm like, alright, I'm out.

01:27:12.000 I'm gonna go live in the mountains.

01:27:13.000 We're gonna get 100 acres of farmland in the middle of nowhere.

01:27:16.000 It's actually rather cheap when you're in the middle of nowhere.

01:27:18.000 You can't do much with it.

01:27:19.000 No Starlink, no DSL, no nothing.

01:27:22.000 It's cheap, though.

01:27:22.000 Viaset.

01:27:23.000 Internet.

01:27:25.000 Does it work?

01:27:25.000 Yeah, it does.

01:27:26.000 You can get like 5 megabits up and down.

01:27:27.000 You can get like 20 down and 5 up.

01:27:30.000 Five up is enough.

01:27:31.000 Buy a set.

01:27:32.000 So we've, we've streamed this show from Satellite before.

01:27:35.000 Yeah.

01:27:35.000 And, and the quality was like 720p and it's not perfect, but you know, if I'm not, we're not going to go out there to do the show.

01:27:43.000 We're going to have the land.

01:27:44.000 ATVs.

01:27:46.000 The very, very first time I was on the show back in what, March or something, you know, pre lockdown, February, we were talking about, uh, my 90 acre medieval town.

01:27:55.000 You can fit 50 some thousand people in a walled town on 90 acres.

01:27:57.000 We're gonna do a hippie libertarian kind of town where people can chill and just kind of have their own space.

01:28:04.000 Friends can come hang out.

01:28:05.000 We'll build some skateboard stuff.

01:28:06.000 And it's gonna be... You know, we gotta figure out where it's gonna be because there's a couple different things we can do.

01:28:12.000 It might actually be like we build houses.

01:28:15.000 You know, Luke's talking about these hippie dome houses. 0.56

01:28:17.000 We'll see what happens.

01:28:18.000 But I don't want to get too much into the hippie dippy stuff.

01:28:20.000 I'm just pointing out.

01:28:21.000 I got to a certain point after watching all this stuff where I'm like, first of all, The Republican Party won't fight for you.

01:28:27.000 The Republican Party's not gonna stand up for you.

01:28:29.000 You give them the chance, and they will Lion King Trump off the cliff.

01:28:35.000 Trump's gonna sit in there saying, Brother, help me!

01:28:37.000 And McConnell's like, No!

01:28:40.000 Puts the claws in his hands and Trump goes flying.

01:28:42.000 So if you can't count on them to fight for you, defend your rights, while all of this insanity is going down, then what do you do?

01:28:48.000 You got to find your own space.

01:28:49.000 Cause I'll tell you something really funny.

01:28:51.000 Wasn't it awesome how Josh Hawley and Bernie Sanders got together for the stimulus package?

01:28:55.000 It was great, right?

01:28:56.000 You don't think so?

01:28:57.000 I don't know.

01:28:58.000 I mean, I feel like you're setting me up, Tim.

01:29:01.000 Josh Hawley, a Republican, and Bernie Sanders, progressive Democrat, agreed on this $1,200 stimulus package and are pushing it, trying to force it.

01:29:08.000 That's what the American people need.

01:29:10.000 I think we should have been giving them Trump bucks all year.

01:29:13.000 Trump bucks.

01:29:14.000 It's amazing to me that while I've praised that outright, it is the Democrats destroying the economy and then the Republicans siding with the Democrat on how they should solve the problem in the temporary.

01:29:25.000 Instead of Josh Hawley coming out and saying, we are going to reopen the economies and pass a bill mandating federally that the Constitution be respected and these places reopen and their jobs can come back.

01:29:35.000 Instead of doing that, once again it was on the Democrats' terms.

01:29:39.000 Josh Hawley came and joined the Democrat position on how to solve the problem caused by the Democrats.

01:29:45.000 I mean, it's kind of hard.

01:29:46.000 They put you into a tough spot.

01:29:47.000 Do you want to be the guy who's wrong and then it leads to two million new deaths of corona?

01:29:51.000 Not saying that that's what would happen, but that's what they say what will happen.

01:29:54.000 A good leader would.

01:29:56.000 A good leader would be the one who would say something very simply like, my friends, considering the coronavirus has spiked again, the first attempt at a lockdown is not going to stop this problem.

01:30:07.000 And if we stay locked down, then more people will lose their lives to suicide, to homelessness, to desperation, to a lack of access to medical care.

01:30:15.000 I'm with you a hundred we must make a hard choice and that means compromise. Here's the plan

01:30:21.000 Social distancing will remain in effect nationwide We hope the governor's agree with us the federal governor's

01:30:26.000 had the authority to instruct that but we hope you all agree

01:30:28.000 we encourage strongly masks to the best of your abilities, but the elderly will be protected and 0.93

01:30:34.000 Everyone else, please get on with your lives and be safe.

01:30:37.000 That's the solution.

01:30:39.000 Or just simply, hey, let's not send sick COVID patients to nursing homes.

01:30:42.000 I think that would be a great start.

01:30:44.000 I think less government is the answer.

01:30:46.000 And I think the only way to get less government is by having more responsible, sovereign individuals taking responsibility into their own hands.

01:30:53.000 I mean, I was in New York City earlier this year.

01:30:56.000 I left and I'm not looking back and I'm never coming back ever again.

01:30:59.000 I mean, there's so many unprecedented That RV is pretty sweet though, man.

01:31:05.000 It's nice, but I literally left New York City, went straight to New Hampshire and started doing survival training courses and then doing my own trainings of them as I was... From Occupy Wall Street to the wilderness.

01:31:16.000 I don't even want to say what I've been doing in the training I received.

01:31:20.000 I watched Luke gut a rabbit.

01:31:22.000 Make a stew.

01:31:23.000 I'm kidding.

01:31:25.000 I was legit impressed.

01:31:27.000 There was gutting involved but that's a whole other subject.

01:31:29.000 I heard Luke was chasing chickens around.

01:31:31.000 Yes he was.

01:31:32.000 Chasing chickens around.

01:31:35.000 You want to make a joke here?

01:31:36.000 I'm not making any jokes.

01:31:40.000 But listen, it's up to everyone to understand the situation in front of them and to act responsibly.

01:31:44.000 Stop looking for someone else to do something for you.

01:31:47.000 Stop putting someone above you.

01:31:50.000 You are responsible for your own life, your own choices.

01:31:53.000 Make some smart ones.

01:31:54.000 Stop blaming everyone else for your problems.

01:31:56.000 I agree largely with that, and this dovetails with a conversation I've been having with Balaji on Twitter about labor mobility.

01:32:03.000 So there was this idea in free trade that if you have free trade of capital, free trade of products, and free trade of people, That the people will move to where the opportunities are.

01:32:14.000 And you can destroy this economy over here, and people will move over here.

01:32:17.000 But what we found after WTO, after Black Bloc, Seattle, all that, what we found was, is that people don't like to move.

01:32:25.000 Labor mobility is not as prevalent as people, as the models, the economic models like to say.

01:32:30.000 And so the industries left, and then the people stayed.

01:32:33.000 Then we have opioids, we have declining life expectancies, we have hollowed out towns, et cetera, et cetera.

01:32:42.000 That same phenomenon.

01:32:43.000 I wonder if this low labor mobility is going to apply.

01:32:48.000 You got out of Philly.

01:32:50.000 You got out of New York.

01:32:51.000 I'm getting out of DC.

01:32:52.000 Where am I going to go?

01:32:53.000 I'm going to a jurisdiction where I have the confidence that my rights and the things that I want will be protected for as long as possible, right?

01:33:01.000 I would move to Southwestern Virginia, but it's a blue state.

01:33:03.000 I don't know what's going to happen.

01:33:04.000 So I look in West Virginia, right?

01:33:07.000 Because I want to make sure that I go to a county that has a history of voting for sheriffs.

01:33:12.000 That would probably say, hey, you know what? 1.00

01:33:14.000 We're not going to enforce these stupid laws like that. 1.00

01:33:16.000 You do you. 1.00

01:33:17.000 And there are jurisdictions like that.

01:33:18.000 That's this kind of research, the sovereignty, this individual sovereignty.

01:33:22.000 You have to be that proactive.

01:33:23.000 I don't know.

01:33:24.000 Are people going to be?

01:33:25.000 Is this the thing that's going to make people want to move more so than like the town factory closing?

01:33:30.000 I don't know.

01:33:31.000 I think.

01:33:31.000 That's a big deal, right?

01:33:32.000 Well, they are moving in record numbers.

01:33:34.000 We're talking about hundreds of thousands of people that have left New York City and are not coming back.

01:33:38.000 They're talking about converting office spaces into residential buildings.

01:33:42.000 Who's gonna live in them when there's no jobs and there's no work there?

01:33:45.000 The only reason people go through this rat-infested, piss-smelling hellhole that is New York City... Sour milk. 0.94

01:33:52.000 Yes, sour milk is also true.

01:33:54.000 There's also a particular smell when spring comes. 0.97

01:33:56.000 You know summer's coming when you smell that garbage.

01:33:58.000 It's a weird sense that only true New Yorkers really know. 0.93

01:34:01.000 I mean, I grew up there my entire life.

01:34:04.000 I loved it when it was, you know, everyone has their little stories, but right now it's not the same city at all.

01:34:10.000 And to see the abuse that people are going through.

01:34:13.000 There's literal police officers walking around with binoculars.

01:34:16.000 There's police officers looking through people's windows, fining them for the basic human activities of just trying to live.

01:34:23.000 So I don't see a lot of people surviving, thriving, or if they do, they're going to be servants of a state that's going to use and abuse them at record levels like they are right now.

01:34:33.000 So, now think about what's going to happen.

01:34:35.000 Because what did Fauci and Bill Gates say?

01:34:38.000 Lockdown could persist into 2022.

01:34:40.000 Or at least some form of it.

01:34:43.000 At a certain point, do you think some people are going to have no food and no home and they're gonna be really angry and looking for it?

01:34:48.000 And do you think they'll put their survival over any law or community?

01:34:51.000 It's gonna be like that movie, you know, what is it called?

01:34:53.000 Daybreakers?

01:34:54.000 Is that what it's called?

01:34:55.000 Yeah, the vampires you ever see that one So it's basically almost everyone in society becomes a

01:35:00.000 vampire right?

01:35:01.000 Because one by one people start becoming vampires and they they farm humans

01:35:05.000 But they're running out everyone's turning into a vampire and then eventually when they start getting desperate for

01:35:11.000 blood they go nuts are attacking other people and stealing it and

01:35:14.000 fighting and turning into disgusting monster creatures and It's probably a simpler analogy analogy just to just point

01:35:20.000 out food riots and any other revolution, but it is but it's a funny

01:35:23.000 It's funny movie. It's a cool movie at a certain point when we're locked down and people are lining up for miles in

01:35:29.000 food banks Which are we've already been seeing all year at a certain

01:35:32.000 point when they're going to your business and arresting you saying you

01:35:37.000 Have no right to money to live People are gonna snap

01:35:42.000 Not only that, they're being arrested for not giving their money to Amazon and Walmart.

01:35:47.000 That's essentially what's happening.

01:35:48.000 What I'm saying is, in the next year or two, with this lockdown, At a certain point, someone's going to be like, I have no food, I have nowhere to go, and I'm hungry.

01:35:57.000 And they're going to take.

01:35:58.000 They don't care.

01:35:59.000 Because they're going to choose survival.

01:36:01.000 Here's the best part.

01:36:02.000 We had this guy go on MSNBC, this doctor.

01:36:04.000 You know what he said?

01:36:06.000 I kid you not.

01:36:06.000 It was the craziest thing.

01:36:08.000 He said, if you get the COVID vaccine, you can still get the virus.

01:36:12.000 You can still get the virus.

01:36:13.000 And, and we don't know if it'll actually, even if you, you can still get it.

01:36:17.000 And so you can't travel and you still have to wear masks and you still have to social distance.

01:36:21.000 This is a misunderstanding.

01:36:23.000 Then what's the point of getting it?

01:36:26.000 I'm not kidding.

01:36:26.000 It was on MSNBC.

01:36:27.000 I almost think it's like, are they lying? 1.00

01:36:29.000 We are being led by idiots. 1.00

01:36:32.000 The system is too complex. 1.00

01:36:33.000 We can't be led by anybody.

01:36:35.000 We have people in politics that got voted in because they're popular.

01:36:39.000 What I'm saying is, or the D and the R, what I'm saying is right now, I think the best bet is, look, land is cheap in the middle of nowhere.

01:36:47.000 But what you forfeit is access to clean running water.

01:36:51.000 You know, when you live in New York City.

01:36:53.000 A lot more than that.

01:36:54.000 Although, by the way, drill a well, you got the best water in the world.

01:36:58.000 I mean, it's not... It's becoming more and more scarce, and there's many predictions that there will actually be more conflicts because of water rights coming very soon.

01:37:05.000 Well, so that's why you want well water, but the issue with wells is that you gotta do a lot of testing.

01:37:08.000 You got bacteria, you got mineral deposits.

01:37:11.000 I've watched enough Homestead Rescue to know that it is possible.

01:37:14.000 I watched that show too.

01:37:14.000 We had uranium.

01:37:15.000 Every single one.

01:37:17.000 And if you're near farmland, you can get uranium build up.

01:37:20.000 And that's so you need a good filtration system.

01:37:22.000 You need like UV light, high level filters and stuff.

01:37:24.000 This is the kind of stuff we're going through now.

01:37:25.000 But it is some of the best water.

01:37:28.000 We got the water here.

01:37:30.000 Man, it is some of the best water you'll ever drink.

01:37:32.000 The water faucet is better than city water.

01:37:34.000 It's amazing.

01:37:34.000 We just turned the front lawn into a little farming area.

01:37:37.000 And again, I can't tell people this enough.

01:37:40.000 Learn to farm.

01:37:41.000 I think it's going to be something very important that people are going to need to learn.

01:37:45.000 It builds a lot of good gut biome to keep your hands in the dirt, to actually work with seeds, to actually work with your own food.

01:37:51.000 That's one of the most principle amazing things that you could do on the face of this earth is provide for yourself.

01:37:58.000 And it sounds like manual labor for a lot of people, for a lot of flip-flop wearing Starbucks drinking yuppies, it's a nightmare.

01:38:05.000 But in reality, when you start doing it, you get your hands in the dirt.

01:38:08.000 It's one of the most beautiful, amazing feelings that you could ever have.

01:38:11.000 As my good friend, Joe Norman, who's a homesteader in New Hampshire told me, he said, it reconnects you with the low frequency vibrations of the earth.

01:38:20.000 And then that is a healthy place to be rather than the high frequency vibrations of social media and your handheld device and all that.

01:38:28.000 Hippies call it grounding, and I'm looking at Ian, because I expect Ian to know what that is.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, I used to stand barefoot in the dirt, and I would notice when it was cold outside, it would warm me up, because the warmth from the earth would come up into my feet, and when it was hot outside, it would cool me down, because the heat in my body would go into the earth.

01:38:43.000 Well, there is an energy, there is a frequency that a lot of people talk about.

01:38:46.000 All right, you Crystal Wang.

01:38:48.000 Hey, it's true. 0.81

01:38:49.000 You know what?

01:38:49.000 Hey, maybe West Virginia isn't the right place.

01:38:52.000 Maybe Wyoming is.

01:38:54.000 They have, like, really bad cell service.

01:38:58.000 Cold.

01:38:59.000 Yes.

01:38:59.000 So much snow.

01:39:00.000 That's right.

01:39:00.000 Appalachia is one of the most fertile places in America.

01:39:04.000 It has low incidence of natural disasters.

01:39:08.000 It is near enough to large metropolitan centers that you can get to anywhere in the world that you want to.

01:39:13.000 I'm all for it.

01:39:14.000 The problem is with West Virginia, and no offense to my West Virginia people. 0.99

01:39:18.000 It is quite literally the oldest, the sickest, the fattest, the dumbest, the brokest, the least employed state 0.99

01:39:27.000 in the union.

01:39:28.000 So what you're saying is we can relocate again, the Timcast company and everything we're building and start bringing revenue into these towns and build up and help people find jobs.

01:39:41.000 And then that's assuming you stop being Amazon's number one customer.

01:39:45.000 Right?

01:39:46.000 You're going to have to buy all that stuff local.

01:39:49.000 No, no, no.

01:39:50.000 As much as I can local, right?

01:39:52.000 Yeah.

01:39:53.000 But bringing these tools and these things from Amazon into this area is going to build up that area.

01:39:58.000 You know?

01:39:59.000 Agreed.

01:39:59.000 Bringing the people is going to bring more business, more bars, more clubs, you know, all that stuff will slowly start coming together.

01:40:07.000 And then all of a sudden people will be voting Democrat and you'll be like, I got to get the hell out of here.

01:40:11.000 As soon as you've seen the Starbucks and the Artisan Donuts, get out.

01:40:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:40:15.000 But I have to plug New Hampshire in here, though.

01:40:19.000 I have to plug New Hampshire in the Free State Project.

01:40:21.000 I love it.

01:40:22.000 I have a love affair.

01:40:23.000 I mean, summers, springs, falls, New Hampshire for me.

01:40:27.000 Winters, Florida.

01:40:28.000 Well, that was my plan, but now I'm still here.

01:40:30.000 Depends on where you are in the region that you decide to locate yourself in.

01:40:34.000 You have a lot of water.

01:40:36.000 You have no venomous snakes.

01:40:37.000 You have no venomous spiders.

01:40:39.000 You have a lot of land.

01:40:40.000 You have a lot of territory.

01:40:41.000 But most importantly, you have a community of individuals that don't like the government, love responsibility, and they're building the Free State Project, which is literally a place where they set up marketplace stores where people sell and trade and barter.

01:40:55.000 It's one of the largest places for cryptocurrency transactions than anywhere else in all of the United States.

01:41:02.000 And to me, being there, spending my spring and summer there, I absolutely love And it's like 10 times the cost of West Virginia.

01:41:09.000 And they still don't have internet.

01:41:12.000 The internet's pretty good there.

01:41:13.000 You can get decent acreage in West Virginia for like $500 to $1,500 an acre.

01:41:18.000 You can get a hundred, a hundred acres for like 50, 60K.

01:41:21.000 Yeah.

01:41:22.000 If you're in like Southwest or Central West Virginia.

01:41:25.000 Yeah.

01:41:26.000 Huge, massive plots.

01:41:28.000 I saw one really cool.

01:41:29.000 It was like a top of a mountain.

01:41:30.000 It was crazy.

01:41:30.000 And then they shaved off like the top so you could build a house.

01:41:33.000 Yeah.

01:41:33.000 Dude, you can get up for the money that I'm paying in Washington, D.C.

01:41:37.000 I was just in Southwest Virginia.

01:41:38.000 I was at Hot Springs, Virginia, where, as a matter of fact, I was on vacation, Tim, on vacation, walking out of the restaurant without my mask on.

01:41:47.000 Someone runs up behind me, sir, sir, sir, sir, sir.

01:41:50.000 And I was like, oh, man, I'm going to get yelled at for not having a mask.

01:41:53.000 I turn around and it's a guy in his mid 20s or early 30s goes.

01:41:57.000 Dude, you're on Tim pool.

01:41:59.000 Are you Jack Murphy?

01:42:00.000 Dude, I was just like on vacation at a random place trying to get away That guy if he's watching yes, I think people should know too if they don't I saw some people in the chat Don't realize that you're you're booked as a regular like you have a regular schedule for the show.

01:42:15.000 Yes, it's not.

01:42:16.000 Yeah, it's not like oh Every other Wednesday, I'm here.

01:42:18.000 Also, shout out to the dog walker in Washington, D.C.

01:42:20.000 that stopped me and my family, again, just walking down the street and said, hey, Jack Murphy, seen you on Tim Pool.

01:42:27.000 Whenever we have you on, the show does a little better.

01:42:30.000 I appreciate it.

01:42:32.000 Thanks, guys.

01:42:32.000 So in Southwest Virginia, for the money that I pay in D.C., I can have a thousand acres with a horse farm, horse ranch in the mountains with a river.

01:42:41.000 Yep.

01:42:41.000 Same money.

01:42:42.000 Let's do it.

01:42:43.000 What's stopping you?

01:42:45.000 I have a complicated divorce situation with my kids in shared custody.

01:42:50.000 Otherwise, dude, I would have been long gone.

01:42:51.000 Kids homeschooled in Southwest Virginia immediately.

01:42:55.000 I'm gonna find a massive plot, like a hundred acres somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

01:43:00.000 Think bigger.

01:43:00.000 Bigger where though?

01:43:02.000 No, but it's fine.

01:43:02.000 But a thousand acres.

01:43:04.000 That's a lot of money.

01:43:06.000 That's like a million bucks.

01:43:07.000 It's like three YouTube videos, bro.

01:43:11.000 I mean, and you'd also got to find land like next to each other.

01:43:14.000 Otherwise you're buying like plots all over the place.

01:43:17.000 Finding, that's what I was saying, like Wyoming is probably the bigger secret.

01:43:20.000 It's probably like five grand for like 5,000 acres.

01:43:24.000 It's like some ridiculous number. 0.76

01:43:25.000 It's like a barren wasteland. 0.96

01:43:26.000 Dude, when I was driving through Wyoming... Listen, listen.

01:43:29.000 I drove from New York to Chicago to North Dakota, then down the West Coast to California to Los Angeles.

01:43:36.000 When we went through Wyoming, there was a period where we drove like 300-something miles with no gas.

01:43:42.000 I was with my friend.

01:43:43.000 And then I was like, dude, we're about to run out of gas, and there's nothing around us anywhere.

01:43:47.000 It's a straight road.

01:43:48.000 If we don't find a gas station, we're in serious trouble.

01:43:51.000 It was super cold.

01:43:52.000 It was, like, whiteout half the time.

01:43:53.000 Couldn't see, and I was driving, I think, a Honda Civic.

01:43:56.000 Ridiculous car to be driving through this terrain.

01:43:58.000 There was one point where the ground was all ice, and I was just, like, sliding every few seconds, and I was like, we're gonna die! 0.73

01:44:02.000 It's great, but anyway great.

01:44:05.000 We're down to probably like the tiny like it's like it's on E And I'm like we probably got 20 30 miles, and we drive on the Civic in the Honda Civic We drive past this building It's a little tiny farmhouse looking shack or whatever and I don't think twice my friend goes a gas pump And I was like what and I'd look back as we drive past it two little gas pumps.

01:44:23.000 No signs nothing and I slam the brakes on I do a u-turn I go back and I walk up to the door there's no signs and I knock and I look and through the window I can see it was a store and I'm like get out of here and I walk in there's a little store and there's a guy sitting there with a little dog and I was like hey you sell gas and he goes yep and I was like can I pump gas like yep I was like $25 a gallon sir

01:44:46.000 No, it was not that expensive.

01:44:48.000 But I was like, there was no sign.

01:44:49.000 I swear, that's how crazy it was.

01:44:51.000 And the best part was, my phone didn't work at all.

01:44:53.000 It was something called, I think it's called Union Cellular, I think it was.

01:44:55.000 It was years ago.

01:44:57.000 But now they probably have better cell infrastructure along certain roads.

01:45:02.000 But man, maybe that's the big secret.

01:45:04.000 According to, I think it was Animaniacs, nobody lives there anyway.

01:45:07.000 Do you know anybody who lives there or who's from there?

01:45:09.000 Fewer people live in Wyoming than in the city of Washington, D.C., I believe.

01:45:13.000 Something like that.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, D.C.' 's got like a million.

01:45:16.000 I'm thinking D.C.

01:45:17.000 proper, which is like 700,000.

01:45:18.000 It's like that.

01:45:19.000 I think it's that few people in Wyoming.

01:45:21.000 Yeah.

01:45:22.000 Yeah, Wyoming is, I think, 535,000.

01:45:23.000 There you go.

01:45:25.000 That means you can probably buy a whole lot of land and do a whole lot of whatever you want.

01:45:28.000 China's doing it. 0.93

01:45:29.000 Yeah, they are.

01:45:31.000 I saw an article about that Chinese guy that bought land in Texas and he built a airstrip.

01:45:37.000 And he's been like flying people in on this airstrip.

01:45:39.000 And I read it.

01:45:40.000 It said 200 something land airstrip.

01:45:42.000 I was like, oh, 200 acres.

01:45:43.000 That's a lot.

01:45:44.000 No, and I went back and read it again.

01:45:45.000 200 square miles.

01:45:48.000 Yeah.

01:45:48.000 This Chinese guy, this Chinese, maybe there was some affiliation with the wrong people.

01:45:53.000 Just acquiring mass land in Texas.

01:45:55.000 200 square miles.

01:45:57.000 That's happening a lot.

01:45:58.000 Nebraska might be pretty good.

01:46:00.000 But you know, I think the thing is, when you're closer to the East Coast, like West Virginia, it's not that cold, not a whole lot of snow, it's like easier.

01:46:09.000 But it can get hot in the summer, you know, so it depends.

01:46:12.000 You live in the mountains?

01:46:13.000 Middle America is getting flooded pretty hard too, and they got tornadoes.

01:46:17.000 But if you buy land in Nebraska, you can certainly grow corn.

01:46:21.000 And then live off of corn.

01:46:22.000 You'd be a corn person. 0.77

01:46:24.000 Yeah, they love their corn.

01:46:24.000 Hey, you said something about Amazon earlier.

01:46:26.000 What about it?

01:46:28.000 Do we have to stop using it?

01:46:29.000 Yes.

01:46:30.000 I'm obsessed with Amazon.

01:46:31.000 I love Amazon.

01:46:32.000 They get it here the next day, two days later.

01:46:34.000 The Amazon microchip is in your brain already.

01:46:36.000 You can buy almost everything on Amazon.

01:46:38.000 I don't want to stop using it.

01:46:41.000 Like I've given over to the Borg or something.

01:46:43.000 It's awfully convenient, bro.

01:46:44.000 It's not just that.

01:46:45.000 It's, um, you know, when we, when I was living in the Philly area, it was really easy to be like, let's go to this store, that store to buy what we need.

01:46:51.000 Now we're in the middle of nowhere.

01:46:53.000 There is no, that store that we need.

01:46:54.000 It doesn't exist.

01:46:55.000 Now you would have taken a three hour trip into the city once a month to get it, you know, go into town to get the things.

01:47:00.000 Now I tell you the mail.

01:47:01.000 So the way it works when you live in the middle of nowhere is that Amazon delivers your items to the post office, not to your house.

01:47:07.000 And then the post office delivers your Amazon packages most of the time.

01:47:11.000 And boy, are they salty with us.

01:47:14.000 I bet.

01:47:14.000 You better tip your postman, buddy.

01:47:16.000 Can you do that?

01:47:17.000 Of course.

01:47:17.000 I just tipped my trash guys today.

01:47:20.000 I'll get the mailman.

01:47:21.000 You should especially tip your regular mailman.

01:47:24.000 I didn't know you were allowed to give them money.

01:47:25.000 You're like supposed to in New York City. 1.00

01:47:29.000 You're mailman and you're garbage man. 0.99

01:47:30.000 Really? 1.00

01:47:31.000 You're a mailman?

01:47:32.000 That's like a federal job.

01:47:33.000 You're giving him cash.

01:47:34.000 That's what I did in New York City.

01:47:35.000 Do you want to get all them boxes from Amazon?

01:47:38.000 Ian ordered, what, like 50 gallons of vinegar for some reason?

01:47:41.000 To go with the 50 gallons of beans.

01:47:43.000 Honey and salt.

01:47:44.000 And the mail lady pulls up with this big ol' truck full of vinegar and she was like, why are these so heavy?

01:47:49.000 What are you doing?

01:47:50.000 And I'm like, I don't know, man.

01:47:51.000 One of them was upside down and exploded.

01:47:53.000 It's broken.

01:47:53.000 Vinegar all over the truck.

01:47:54.000 Yeah, dude, it was awful.

01:47:55.000 She's cool.

01:47:57.000 The mailman must be here every day for like at least a half hour.

01:48:01.000 Dude, I just get a whim and I'll order one thing.

01:48:05.000 That's another trip for the mail person.

01:48:06.000 Just like a bunch of vinegar and one of them exploded and her whole truck stank the whole time. 0.99

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:13.000 And then but we have to order things for like for snacks for the guests and like batteries and stuff So we you know, it's we're running a business So we do like a big order of batteries and then there's big heavy box.

01:48:22.000 They're like, what is this?

01:48:23.000 We recently bought a whole bunch of airsoft stuff.

01:48:25.000 This is a cool thing Just go in the backyard.

01:48:27.000 We got the Luke.

01:48:28.000 We went to the store.

01:48:29.000 We just basically bought a ton of airsoft stuff and The lady was trying to not to sell us the stuff. 1.00

01:48:33.000 She didn't believe we were buying all this stuff.

01:48:34.000 This is the craziest thing.

01:48:36.000 Cause I'm like, okay, we're going to do, uh, you know, five rifles and five airsoft, you know, handguns.

01:48:42.000 And then the guy starts taking them down and Luke's like, that we'll take that one.

01:48:44.000 And the lady's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0.99

01:48:46.000 What are you doing?

01:48:46.000 Put them back, put them back.

01:48:47.000 And Luke's like, we're buying it.

01:48:48.000 She goes, no, you don't need this.

01:48:49.000 What are you doing?

01:48:50.000 And then finally it wasn't till I was like, I have We are going to be buying this.

01:48:54.000 Why?

01:48:55.000 Well, Luke's an instructor and Luke is going to, you know, do basic trainings and like, you know.

01:48:59.000 Well, if you do any firearms training, it's best to do it with airsoft first, especially with the type of caliber and replica possibilities that you have here.

01:49:07.000 Cause you don't want to be using a real gun when it comes to practicing some real CQB or some advanced stuff, especially with people who never held a gun in their hand.

01:49:16.000 So you'd never want to do that.

01:49:17.000 So airsoft is perfect.

01:49:18.000 It's fun.

01:49:19.000 And we're, we're, we're working on the vlog and we're getting ideas for it.

01:49:21.000 And so we're thinking of putting up a wall with like airsoft stuff.

01:49:23.000 We're gonna have a lot of fun with it.

01:49:25.000 But man, she just didn't, you know, want to let us buy this stuff.

01:49:28.000 Why was that?

01:49:29.000 I guess she just didn't think... Because you look like Riff Raff.

01:49:32.000 Yeah, because we look like Riff Raff.

01:49:33.000 She was like, do you have a team?

01:49:35.000 And I was like, no, we're just gonna, you know, horse around, you know.

01:49:37.000 But we have this big space to do it.

01:49:39.000 So the next thing I think is what we're gonna do with this... I'm hoping that we can get something big enough But actually really close, so I can actually build a house and live there, for the most part.

01:49:50.000 But it might be difficult, we'll see how it plays out.

01:49:52.000 And then, uh, we might end up just getting something really far away, that's just, like, empty land.

01:49:57.000 And then we've got, you know, RVs, and this is crazy, this is interesting, dome housing is really easy to build.

01:50:03.000 They're geodesic domes.

01:50:04.000 Yeah, it's just, it's, it's, so it solves a lot of simple problems for, you know, Burning Man IRL coming up.

01:50:11.000 I know a Burning Man architect that can come help us build those.

01:50:14.000 Yeah, of course you do.

01:50:15.000 It's like latticed aluminum pipes or whatever and then they cover it in plastic and then they insulate it.

01:50:21.000 Super cheap.

01:50:22.000 I've watched enough Homestead Rescue to know.

01:50:25.000 And you can build domed spheres that are half-ironed.

01:50:30.000 I literally lived in one in New Hampshire a couple weeks ago at a It's just really cheap.

01:50:33.000 three-story one doubled one that was connected and had everything running through it and it was just

01:50:38.000 You can build them modularly So like have dome here a dome here to dome here and then on

01:50:44.000 top you have like a dome here and a dome here So you have five domes and like a pure metal for like it

01:50:48.000 you can put them. It's just really cheap. It's like substantially cheaper

01:50:51.000 That's really really structurally sound I can handle Let's do it.

01:50:55.000 Let's go.

01:50:56.000 I'm ready.

01:50:56.000 Handles earthquakes and the rain and the snow rolls right off.

01:50:59.000 So it like makes a lot of sense.

01:51:01.000 So I'm thinking like we want one big, super big dome, super concrete foundation.

01:51:05.000 That's the challenge.

01:51:06.000 That's expensive.

01:51:07.000 expensive. But if you're wondering if we can use bitumen instead bitumen. Yeah, it's like an advanced type of

01:51:12.000 plastic broken up that we should be making roads out of.

01:51:16.000 But because of planned obsolescence, they want to make it out of what they use because of cracks every year and they

01:51:20.000 get to spend I'll take whatever foundation we can get maybe recycled plastics, whatever. And then the idea is like, you

01:51:28.000 know, just a DIY it man to build the space and have a fun place to hang out. And

01:51:31.000 And also, you know, a certain point, working with your hands, having that farm you ever you ever Jack, have you ever grown food?

01:51:39.000 Yes.

01:51:40.000 Isn't it amazing?

01:51:41.000 Yes, I have.

01:51:41.000 I in my one of my last houses in D.C., I built an elevated bed farm in my backyard and I grew all kinds of things and broccoli and eggplants and tomatoes and peppers and all kinds of We had eggplants that were like this big.

01:51:54.000 I don't know what was going on, but like they grew this big.

01:51:57.000 It was amazing.

01:51:58.000 And then we had a whole field basically of broccoli.

01:52:01.000 And then I came, I came out the next day, man, deer eating my urban deer.

01:52:08.000 So I love gardening.

01:52:09.000 I love farming.

01:52:09.000 I've been reading a lot about it.

01:52:11.000 I can't wait to get back at it.

01:52:12.000 When I lived in Miami with this small farm and we had chickens, and the first time the chickens laid eggs, I was like, can we just eat it?

01:52:19.000 Like, it was so, I'd never done anything like this before.

01:52:22.000 And then, like, I just, I was like, yeah, city boy.

01:52:25.000 I goaled it.

01:52:26.000 I'm like, the chicken laid an egg.

01:52:27.000 Can I eat it?

01:52:27.000 It's like, enjoy.

01:52:28.000 I'm like, just want to make sure, man.

01:52:31.000 I don't know.

01:52:32.000 Do I have to homogenize it?

01:52:34.000 Yeah.

01:52:34.000 Do I have to pasteurize it?

01:52:35.000 Do I have to sit on it?

01:52:36.000 Do I need a rooster to kind of like, you know, do his thing to make sure it's a good egg?

01:52:43.000 Look, I had never had a chicken before.

01:52:46.000 I didn't know the process by which they, you know, eggs are ready to go.

01:52:49.000 And now you just pick it up.

01:52:50.000 And then, dude, every day, more eggs, more eggs, piling up like crazy.

01:52:54.000 We were eating eggs like crazy.

01:52:55.000 Yeah, man.

01:52:56.000 Eggs.

01:52:56.000 Let's get some eggs.

01:52:57.000 Chicken dome.

01:52:58.000 Chicken dome.

01:52:59.000 I want, and you know what I'll do?

01:53:00.000 I'm going to 3D print armor for the chickens.

01:53:03.000 No joke.

01:53:04.000 So that way they don't peck each other.

01:53:05.000 But also when like, you know, the predators show up, the chickens, when they do their natural thing, like defend themselves, I'll make it so that when they go like this, spikes go.

01:53:13.000 I was thinking if we build... I saw that on Homestead Rescue.

01:53:15.000 If we build a big house that's like a big giant square, but in the middle is a giant open courtyard that we could have a garden and all the chickens, then the wolves couldn't get in and the deer couldn't get in.

01:53:25.000 No, I got you one better.

01:53:26.000 No, no, no.

01:53:26.000 You want chickens in the middle of your house, bro?

01:53:30.000 Ian, I'm sorry.

01:53:32.000 Ian, let him do it.

01:53:33.000 Let him do it.

01:53:34.000 Let him do it.

01:53:34.000 Ian, do it.

01:53:35.000 It's a great idea.

01:53:37.000 I have a better solution.

01:53:38.000 Underground.

01:53:39.000 The 3D printed armor that we'll have for the chickens will have a thin mesh so that their wingspans expanded and the chickens can actually fly.

01:53:48.000 Oh man, that's advanced technology.

01:53:49.000 So then the chickens start flying away.

01:53:51.000 They'll be gone.

01:53:53.000 You know, people don't realize this, too.

01:53:54.000 One thing is that the chickens can jump, like, what, 10 or 12 feet or something?

01:53:57.000 Whoa.

01:53:58.000 Yeah, go a long way.

01:53:58.000 Because they can jump and fly, but then they, like, eventually come back down.

01:54:02.000 So we had a rooster who kept jumping onto the other property because he could hear all them sweet, sweet chickens.

01:54:08.000 All them hens. 1.00

01:54:08.000 Yeah, and this rooster, he was like, ooh, I'm gonna get me some. 1.00

01:54:10.000 And then he jumped over, and all the roosters over there were really big.

01:54:13.000 And so they were like, yo, what are you doing? 0.98

01:54:14.000 And started pecking him, and then he panicked, and he couldn't get back over because he was too dumb. 0.98

01:54:17.000 It was a fight. 0.98

01:54:18.000 What kind of fight?

01:54:20.000 Yeah.

01:54:21.000 Rooster fight?

01:54:22.000 Rooster fight.

01:54:23.000 Roosters.

01:54:24.000 Rooster fight.

01:54:25.000 How about we go to Super Chat?

01:54:27.000 Super Chat.

01:54:28.000 Super Chat.

01:54:30.000 All right.

01:54:30.000 Let's see.

01:54:31.000 By the way, I'm Jack Murphy.

01:54:32.000 You can follow me on Jack Murphy Live on Twitter and sub Jack Murphy Live on YouTube, please.

01:54:37.000 Thank you very much.

01:54:38.000 And Jack is here periodically, because not just every other Wednesday.

01:54:41.000 Sometimes you'll pop in and, you know.

01:54:42.000 When the circumstances demand it.

01:54:45.000 Yes.

01:54:45.000 Which is, uh, frequently.

01:54:47.000 All right, let's go.

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01:54:52.000 Let's read some of these super chats.

01:54:54.000 Ground floor Guthrie says for Luke sent you a message on parlor regarding brushcaf survivalist classes here in the East.

01:55:02.000 Check out Dave Canterbury and self-reliance outfitters in Ohio and cold cracker in, I believe, Western PA.

01:55:09.000 Cool.

01:55:09.000 Yeah, I'll check my parlor right now.

01:55:13.000 This is interesting.

01:55:15.000 Jonathan Galtarini says Department of National Intelligence blocked Trump from exercising his election integrity executive order from 2018 by missing the required deadline per the DNI official Twitter account.

01:55:26.000 I thought the deadline was, like, tomorrow.

01:55:30.000 No later than 45 days.

01:55:31.000 Oh no, wait.

01:55:32.000 Yeah, they moved it to the 18th.

01:55:34.000 No, that was, was that the 18th?

01:55:36.000 Yeah, they moved it to the 18th, remember?

01:55:38.000 Katherine Herridge was talking about it.

01:55:39.000 They moved the report.

01:55:40.000 Right.

01:55:40.000 So it's past the deadline.

01:55:41.000 Right.

01:55:41.000 It's over.

01:55:43.000 Trump's, you know, everyone thought Trump was going to pull this last ditch executive order of some sort.

01:55:47.000 He got jammed up.

01:55:48.000 By the way, when we build the chicken house, it's going to be huge.

01:55:51.000 So the chickens will have like a lot of space in the middle, but it's going to be like shipping containers all in a big rectangle.

01:55:57.000 And you living in the middle of it.

01:55:59.000 The chickens will be in the middle.

01:56:00.000 I'll have like a room in one of the shipping containers.

01:56:03.000 That'll be great.

01:56:03.000 You can live among the chickens.

01:56:04.000 It's a fantasy.

01:56:05.000 Mr. Sly Trip says... I'll draw you a picture.

01:56:08.000 Mr. Slytrip says, would you be willing to invite David Pakman on IRL?

01:56:12.000 Absolutely.

01:56:13.000 Yes.

01:56:13.000 I've known David for a really long time.

01:56:15.000 I'd love to have him on the show.

01:56:16.000 But I think, and I don't mean this directly at David, but we've had a lot of high profile leftists.

01:56:24.000 Some of the biggest be like, I totally want to come on the show and then later go, but COVID.

01:56:29.000 It doesn't seem to stop any moderate conservative.

01:56:32.000 And there are even some, we've had a handful of, you know, center left, liberal or leftist types.

01:56:37.000 We had Jen Perlman.

01:56:38.000 She was great.

01:56:39.000 Vosh came down.

01:56:39.000 He didn't seem to take issue with it for the most part.

01:56:42.000 I invited Vosh to be here with Alex Jones and he said he would want to do it because he was worried about COVID.

01:56:46.000 And that was unfortunate because that would have been, that would have been great.

01:56:48.000 He said, give him like six months.

01:56:50.000 He was like, I'll be back.

01:56:51.000 Give me like six months.

01:56:52.000 I want to, you know, Luke had this idea for the Royal Rumble to get like big, you know, prominent left-wing personalities and right-wing personalities and then have like a conversation slash debate discussion.

01:57:03.000 Bloodsport.

01:57:04.000 Yes.

01:57:05.000 Kind of.

01:57:05.000 I think when you're in person, though, it changes everything.

01:57:08.000 You know, when people are on Skype, they're like, they're all screaming and yelling.

01:57:11.000 But when you get someone in, it controls things a bit because people act like people around people.

01:57:16.000 It's the great thing about YouTube collaborations in general, when you see like all your favorite YouTube stars in the same room.

01:57:22.000 A lot of people talk like they've never been punched in the face for saying something rude online.

01:57:27.000 When you see someone face to face, there's a big difference in how you act.

01:57:30.000 Indeed.

01:57:31.000 I like to just sit there and just expand my presence.

01:57:36.000 It works.

01:57:37.000 You're a big man.

01:57:38.000 Very muscular.

01:57:39.000 Thank you.

01:57:40.000 Petty says, the other day Ian mentioned revolution against taxes rather than secession.

01:57:44.000 That's at least half the reason the Civil War happened.

01:57:47.000 Yeah, Jack, you brought up federal income tax, which basically didn't get started until 1913.

01:57:52.000 And that's right around the Federal Reserve got started.

01:57:54.000 What a shock.

01:57:56.000 So they're extorting us.

01:57:57.000 I'm down with getting rid of federal income tax. 0.87

01:57:59.000 It's ridiculous.

01:58:00.000 It's just like 100 years old. 0.91

01:58:01.000 You know everybody would vote yes for that, right?

01:58:04.000 I think we'd get pretty much everybody.

01:58:05.000 Pretty sure you'd get like 90% of America.

01:58:07.000 If it was a referendum nationwide, should we get rid of federal income tax, they'd be like, yes.

01:58:13.000 Just yes.

01:58:13.000 Let's do it.

01:58:15.000 Yeah.

01:58:16.000 The commander says, Tim talks about Trump forming a new party, but he used to be part of the New York Independent Party.

01:58:20.000 They joined up with reform, natural law, and a few other parties to form the Alliance Party, which is populist center.

01:58:26.000 He should take over Alliance.

01:58:28.000 Yes.

01:58:29.000 And then all the Trump supporters should say, goodbye, GOP.

01:58:33.000 Look, the way I see it is, if you've got the political willpower and the momentum, the Republicans aren't doing anything for you.

01:58:39.000 I guess the idea is with Trump, you know, in charge, it forced the Republicans behind the Trump supporters to give them that, you know, that wind.

01:58:47.000 But if the Republicans now are like taking the opportunity to throw the Trump supporters under the bus, Trump supporters should be like, without us, you're done.

01:58:54.000 Trump would never have won in 2016 with a third party candidate.

01:58:58.000 Of course.

01:58:58.000 Never.

01:58:59.000 Of course.

01:58:59.000 And so there is that, that red, always red, R voter that you need.

01:59:05.000 I don't think, I think if the Republicans right now formed another party, then the Trump supporters from the new party, they'd still lose.

01:59:12.000 But I think they would lose.

01:59:14.000 You mean for 2024?

01:59:17.000 I think they would start winning local races immediately.

01:59:20.000 I think they would start eventually winning House seats faster and then we could see any other third party.

01:59:26.000 A Trump supporter party coming out against Republicans would win some House seats very quickly.

01:59:32.000 Not a whole lot maybe, but in key areas, definitely.

01:59:35.000 Like we've seen some weird things happen, but this is the opportunity to get an actual third party to break through and tell the GOP goodbye.

01:59:41.000 I just don't want some cult worship.

01:59:46.000 Like, it's about Trump, so it's about getting Trump into office.

01:59:49.000 You don't really need a party around that, of other people that are like Trump's sycophants.

01:59:55.000 Look, here's the thing.

01:59:56.000 Trump had an opportunity to build institutions, to build a network, to build think tanks, to build a whole community.

02:00:02.000 A whole ecosystem supporting MAGA, America First, all that.

02:00:06.000 And guess what?

02:00:07.000 The number one thing that he failed at as president?

02:00:10.000 Building an ecosystem, building a party, building a network, building an institution. 0.53

02:00:15.000 This idea that he's going to just start a third party and build out an institution capable of governing the country is just ludicrous. 0.95

02:00:23.000 It's just ludicrous.

02:00:24.000 Trump's not going to do it.

02:00:25.000 Trump supporters.

02:00:26.000 will eventually start rallying around other people. If you don't have the leadership,

02:00:29.000 then nothing. And that's the advantage right now. You can't rely on Trump to just do it,

02:00:34.000 but you do have Trump and people believe in him. And the Republicans have shown they're absolutely

02:00:38.000 ready, willing and waiting to knife him figuratively in the back. If you're going

02:00:44.000 to keep voting for Republicans and Democrats, then I'm going to keep moving further away and

02:00:47.000 saying y'all are on your own, man. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. Yeah, because they're exactly.

02:00:51.000 So what's the choice?

02:00:53.000 Stand up right now while you have the wind at your back and no!

02:00:57.000 Look, I think the Democrats are going to win in Georgia.

02:00:59.000 Trump's not on the ticket.

02:01:00.000 The Republicans did well in 2016.

02:01:02.000 You know why?

02:01:03.000 Trump was on the ticket.

02:01:04.000 He inspired new people to come on board.

02:01:06.000 9 million people, you pointed it out.

02:01:08.000 2018?

02:01:08.000 Gone.

02:01:09.000 You know why?

02:01:10.000 Trump wasn't on the ticket.

02:01:11.000 That's right.

02:01:11.000 The New York Times said a large portion of Trump's new voter base did not turn out because he wasn't on the ticket.

02:01:18.000 So the Republicans lost the House.

02:01:20.000 In 2020, the Republicans did really well, regained a bunch of seats, took many state-level seats, and maintained control so far of the Senate, and they're teetering.

02:01:34.000 Trump lost.

02:01:35.000 We'll see how things play, I guess, on January 6th.

02:01:38.000 With no Trump on the ticket and Mitch McConnell, I'll tell you this, everything aside, Mitch McConnell coming out the other day and saying, please don't support Trump on January 6th.

02:01:47.000 How many Trump supporters are going to be like, okay, Mitch, and I won't support you on the fifth.

02:01:51.000 How about that?

02:01:51.000 Yeah.

02:01:52.000 Do you think that there, um, I'm, I'm, I'm sleeping on the Senator's name from West Virginia.

02:01:59.000 Is there another?

02:02:00.000 Yeah.

02:02:00.000 Is there another one like him?

02:02:02.000 Who's number 49 out of all those guys who like closer to moderate?

02:02:08.000 Like, for example, if the Democrats in the Senate wanted to be like a thousand Supreme Court justices and then the filibuster.

02:02:14.000 I mean, are there not one or two?

02:02:16.000 Yeah, Manchin would be like, stop on it.

02:02:18.000 But is there one more?

02:02:20.000 Is there one more?

02:02:21.000 One more Democrat?

02:02:22.000 Yeah, who would be like, I think it's probably a bad idea to put a thousand Supreme Court justices. 0.99

02:02:26.000 I don't even know if Manchin would really stand up to the party.

02:02:30.000 Like, it's the political establishment machine.

02:02:34.000 All these Democrats who won in 2018 promised moderate policy and kitchen table issues, and then the moment they got in, Pelosi went up to them and started screaming, good morning, Sunday morning, and they all said, whatever you say, ma'am, and voted for impeachment.

02:02:47.000 I say that to Betsy every Sunday.

02:02:49.000 Good morning, Sunday morning.

02:02:51.000 I love it.

02:02:51.000 Not intentionally, it just comes out.

02:02:53.000 Taxoplasmosis, that's all I have to say.

02:02:57.000 Alright, Luke.

02:02:58.000 Alright, let's read another one.

02:02:59.000 Baelian says, yeah man, I'm an electrician of 15 years and I was cringing the other day when you kept resetting the breaker.

02:03:05.000 Like, ugh, we're gonna hear that pool's compound burnt down due to power overloads.

02:03:08.000 Hopefully you've got an electrician up there to help you out. 0.58

02:03:11.000 So here's the issue with that.

02:03:12.000 Gee, why did the breaker flip?

02:03:13.000 Oh, it doesn't matter.

02:03:14.000 We'll just throw it over again.

02:03:15.000 Well, there's a real question because we changed nothing.

02:03:18.000 And then we unplugged half of the things in here and the breaker still flipped.

02:03:22.000 So I was like, wow, we got a problem.

02:03:24.000 So the electrician came in and said, I don't see a problem.

02:03:27.000 I can't tell you what's going on.

02:03:29.000 So we just ran a line to a different circuit to split the load as much as we can.

02:03:34.000 But Something happened that's bad, and the electrician couldn't see anything wrong with it.

02:03:38.000 We had two people look at it, actually.

02:03:39.000 One guy was just like, it looks fine.

02:03:40.000 I just don't understand.

02:03:42.000 We didn't add anything up here.

02:03:43.000 We actually took the PlayStation out.

02:03:45.000 We reduced the load that we had in the first place, but for some reason... It was a windy day.

02:03:49.000 No post-podcast Spelunky.

02:03:52.000 No, it's gone.

02:03:53.000 I got a PS5 now, I'm playing Phoenix Rising.

02:03:56.000 I tried playing Cyberpunk, man, it was awful.

02:03:58.000 Cyberpunk was so bad.

02:04:00.000 Have you guys played it?

02:04:01.000 I have not, I haven't gotten a PS5.

02:04:03.000 Have you heard about Cyberpunk though?

02:04:05.000 I have not.

02:04:05.000 It's supposed to be like the biggest game, and it is just awful.

02:04:08.000 I've been in development for seven years.

02:04:10.000 And the voice acting is like some of the worst.

02:04:16.000 I was impressed how bad it was.

02:04:19.000 It's clear that the guy who read the lines for the main character had a stack of script lines and just read them one at a time very quickly and went through them.

02:04:26.000 Maybe they were rushed, I don't know.

02:04:28.000 But it's like, is this the job?

02:04:31.000 You mean I have to do what?

02:04:33.000 I'll do it!

02:04:34.000 And I'm like, what is this?

02:04:36.000 Who's he talking to?

02:04:38.000 They need to have the voice actors working with each other.

02:04:40.000 And I was like, wow.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, big budget games have to treat them like big budget movies.

02:04:44.000 If you're going to have voice acting, the world has reached a threshold where movies and video games are melding.

02:04:50.000 But they should have known that.

02:04:52.000 I'll tell you this, I'm playing Phoenix Rising.

02:04:55.000 That game's awesome.

02:04:56.000 That game's real fun.

02:04:57.000 It's good.

02:04:58.000 Would you guys be interested in running for president in 2024?

02:05:03.000 Negative.

02:05:05.000 I would run for president of a club that plays video games and meets on Sunday nights and does D&D or something.

02:05:14.000 If we could do a political movement or party and maybe we could push a candidate like Kanye, someone that wants to be president.

02:05:23.000 And get all our friends involved, like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones.

02:05:27.000 Brett Weinstein kind of tried that with the Unity Party.

02:05:29.000 And keep picking up the pace with Brett.

02:05:31.000 But I think the problem was, didn't he pick Dan Crenshaw?

02:05:34.000 I'd like to get involved with him.

02:05:35.000 Wasn't it Tulsi and Crenshaw or something?

02:05:37.000 We should get Dan Crenshaw on the show someday.

02:05:39.000 I like that guy.

02:05:40.000 Let me search for this.

02:05:43.000 That would be an interesting person to have on. 0.71

02:05:45.000 Brett Weinstein called me one day and he said, who should we promote as the president for our unity party?

02:05:52.000 And my suggestion to him was this gentleman named John Robb.

02:05:54.000 John Robb is an amazing technologist, futurist, military strategist, understands the world in a way that most people don't, but he's one of those guys who would just rather be behind the scenes.

02:06:04.000 Yep, Gabbard and Crenshaw.

02:06:05.000 And the Trump supporters hate Dan Crenshaw.

02:06:07.000 Yeah.

02:06:07.000 Cringe!

02:06:09.000 So that was a really bad idea.

02:06:10.000 I think Dan's alright, but he is kind of, you know, a little too pro-war-y for my taste.

02:06:14.000 Ex-soldier.

02:06:15.000 Yeah.

02:06:16.000 Didn't he just release a cringey video?

02:06:18.000 Was that him?

02:06:18.000 Oh yeah, totally.

02:06:19.000 Super.

02:06:19.000 What happened in the video?

02:06:20.000 So, did you see this video that Dan Crenshaw put out?

02:06:22.000 I didn't see it.

02:06:23.000 It's really, really funny, and I think it's meant to be over-the-top cringe.

02:06:27.000 Because if there's one thing conservatives know they can pull off, it's intentional cringe.

02:06:32.000 I'm not trying to be mean, but conservative content is, like, never really good.

02:06:37.000 Like, they try and do movies, they just don't have it.

02:06:40.000 But one thing they can do is just accept it, and then roll with it, and it's funny.

02:06:45.000 So it's basically like, he's giving a speech, and then someone comes up, like, we got a situation.

02:06:48.000 And then he's walking, he's taking off his suit, like, what's the problem?

02:06:51.000 And they said, you know, we got two candidates in Georgia and Antifa.

02:06:54.000 So then he, like, gets in a plane, and then he, like, you know, jumps out of the plane, he's going down and they're like,

02:06:59.000 you're gonna need to, they're like, Dan, you're gonna need to, you know, change

02:07:03.000 locations. Antifa's on the ground. He goes, negative!

02:07:05.000 I'm gonna take him on or whatever and then he like, from the sky

02:07:08.000 with a parachute, lands on the hood of Antifa's car and then punches through the

02:07:11.000 window and goes, Loffler in Purdue!

02:07:15.000 Republicans!

02:07:15.000 And it's super cringe.

02:07:17.000 But it's funny.

02:07:18.000 It's funny.

02:07:18.000 I think as long as he's self-aware, then it works.

02:07:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:07:23.000 But if you really thought that was going to be like a really cool badass thing he was doing, I don't think that's the case.

02:07:27.000 I think he gets it.

02:07:28.000 It's like over-the-top silliness.

02:07:31.000 But yeah, kind of funny.

02:07:32.000 Anyway, I digress.

02:07:33.000 Tulsi Gabbard's awesome.

02:07:34.000 I love her.

02:07:35.000 The left hates her.

02:07:36.000 And Dan Crenshaw, I think is, you know, he's okay.

02:07:38.000 He's pretty cool.

02:07:39.000 The Trump supporters hate him.

02:07:41.000 So like, you know, with all due respect, because Brett's really, really great dude.

02:07:45.000 I like Tulsi Gabbard, but you know, the left really doesn't like me.

02:07:48.000 And they don't like They said Jocko Willink as well.

02:07:50.000 We need enough people involved that it touches to, you know, enough of the consciousness

02:07:55.000 that people will support just something new that where people really believe in it and

02:08:00.000 doing the right thing, you know, upholding the constitution or whatever.

02:08:02.000 They said Jocko Willink as well.

02:08:04.000 Jocko, I think actually he would get a ton of unity support.

02:08:07.000 Secretary of Defense.

02:08:08.000 Yeah.

02:08:09.000 Yes.

02:08:10.000 Ranked choice primary to figure out who the candidates would actually be.

02:08:12.000 You know, the problem is the best people to be put in positions of power are the ones that don't want it.

02:08:17.000 Of course.

02:08:18.000 The problem is the people who want it the most and are egomaniac psychopaths are the ones who usually get the position.

02:08:24.000 And those are the positions that are usually drawn to them.

02:08:27.000 Yeah, I mean, George Washington didn't want it.

02:08:31.000 U.S.

02:08:32.000 Grant didn't want it.

02:08:33.000 Also, side story, Jefferson Davis didn't want to be the president of the confederacy either.

02:08:38.000 They just named him. 0.99

02:08:39.000 He's like, oh, crap. 0.99

02:08:40.000 All right. 0.97

02:08:42.000 Daniel Maxwell says off topic, but what do you guys think about restricting all elected officials, state and federal, to 12 years max of being of being elected office?

02:08:51.000 I just said we need, uh, you know, mandatory term limits for everyone, not just the president of the United States.

02:08:57.000 It makes perfect sense.

02:08:58.000 I love it.

02:09:00.000 It's a complicated job.

02:09:01.000 It's a complex world.

02:09:02.000 There's a learning curve.

02:09:04.000 I don't know.

02:09:04.000 Do you want a bunch of rookies doing it all the time?

02:09:06.000 Yes, because they're going to be ineffective and not know what they're doing and they're not going to get a lot of stuff done.

02:09:11.000 And that to me is the best thing government could do is stand back and not do anything.

02:09:15.000 Yeah, or the ones that are ineffective and they vote for more programs and then they're just even more of a waste and bigger disaster.

02:09:22.000 This is interesting.

02:09:23.000 Bailey Ray says, Tim, the town I live in, Montgomery, Texas, has not shut businesses down nor enforced a mask mandate.

02:09:29.000 He made a public statement early on in the pandemic.

02:09:31.000 And I can send a link if you'd like.

02:09:33.000 Freedom.

02:09:34.000 I was mentioning this too earlier when I mentioned there's this town Mossy Brook where the mayor was like, nah, we're not shutting down.

02:09:38.000 There's probably a bunch of places where they're like, nah, we just don't hear about it because the news doesn't cover these smaller towns.

02:09:44.000 Well, and there hasn't been an incident.

02:09:47.000 There's no incident.

02:09:48.000 Right.

02:09:48.000 Unless the state, unless the state governor like goes in and compels them, you know, with the state troopers or whatever to enforce.

02:09:56.000 There's no incident.

02:09:57.000 It's not a story.

02:09:58.000 Maddie says, people keep saying red states would be a third world country.

02:10:01.000 Isn't Texas and Oklahoma economy together the seventh largest in the world?

02:10:05.000 Also, best was to undermine authority is through laughter.

02:10:08.000 We beat the establishment by making them a laughingstock.

02:10:10.000 In fact, isn't that one of the rules for radicals?

02:10:11.000 Ridicule your opponents?

02:10:14.000 Their most important position?

02:10:15.000 Number 11, I believe.

02:10:16.000 Yeah, ridicule it.

02:10:18.000 Because you can't argue against ridicule.

02:10:20.000 I was listening to a Hotep Jesus clip.

02:10:22.000 He's really smart.

02:10:23.000 He was mentioning that.

02:10:23.000 He's like, this is what they do.

02:10:25.000 So they try and mock you by saying, if you come out and say, I believe in some kind of like, you know, certain system to benefit us, they'll say that's white supremacy or something.

02:10:33.000 That way they're essentially triggering their audience and putting you in a position where you can't even argue because it's nebulous.

02:10:38.000 It doesn't mean anything.

02:10:39.000 Yep.

02:10:41.000 Redon Velieu says, Tim, the Supreme Court actually did the right decision by not choosing that case.

02:10:46.000 Because that case would create the precedent for other states to sue each other.

02:10:51.000 And trust me, we don't want that.

02:10:53.000 E.g., California suing Texas on tax laws or gun laws.

02:10:56.000 Perhaps, but I don't necessarily think that the court in the future could say no.

02:11:02.000 Just because precedent exists doesn't mean the courts have to listen to that precedent.

02:11:05.000 They can overturn precedent.

02:11:06.000 Precedent, my understanding is that when someone says, like, I cite this law, they're basically saying, this is the law as it was settled before, so you should probably agree to it.

02:11:15.000 But the Supreme Court can overturn past decisions and past precedent whenever they want.

02:11:20.000 If they so see it.

02:11:23.000 Born Mexican, raised in America, says Tim.

02:11:25.000 A bill will be introduced into the Texas Congress for Texan to vote to leave the Union.

02:11:30.000 Texan have always seen themselves separate from the US.

02:11:33.000 SCOTUS really pissed us off.

02:11:35.000 But haven't we heard things like this before from Texas too?

02:11:39.000 Texas was its own country.

02:11:41.000 I also read that when they were being admitted, they were given the choice to be five different states, but they decided to remain as one.

02:11:47.000 And there was some special provision granted to Texas when they joined, because they were their own nation, different from many of the other states which were territories.

02:11:54.000 Boy, I bet they wish they had ten senators now. 0.94

02:11:58.000 Did you guys see, Tulsi Gabbard proposed a bill, H.R.

02:12:03.000 8970, to repeal the U.S. 0.76

02:12:05.000 Patriot Act?

02:12:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:08.000 That was with, wasn't it with one other guy?

02:12:10.000 Thomas Massey, I think?

02:12:11.000 Yeah, Massey.

02:12:13.000 See, Tulsi's great.

02:12:14.000 I like that Thomas Massey.

02:12:15.000 I like him.

02:12:16.000 Yeah, Thomas Massey's a good dude.

02:12:17.000 Another homesteader.

02:12:18.000 We could probably get him on the show.

02:12:20.000 Yeah, I know.

02:12:20.000 Thomas Massey?

02:12:21.000 I'll message him right now.

02:12:23.000 I'm already talking to his office. 0.98

02:12:25.000 Luke, what the heck?

02:12:26.000 I want to have also the Peak Prosperity guy on.

02:12:29.000 I think he's awesome.

02:12:30.000 Who's that?

02:12:30.000 Peak Prosperity, Chris Martinson.

02:12:32.000 I think he would be a great addition just to have on and talk to him because I think he's done a lot of great work that has helped people.

02:12:38.000 Well, that's my opinion.

02:12:39.000 I would like to talk to Thomas Massey too.

02:12:42.000 I came to him through homesteading and then I realized he was a congressman.

02:12:45.000 Wow.

02:12:45.000 Yeah, cool.

02:12:46.000 Yeah, he's a solar house.

02:12:48.000 He's got a beautiful house that he built himself by hand.

02:12:51.000 It's incredible.

02:12:51.000 Oh, it's awesome.

02:12:52.000 Heavy timber made out of stone from the property.

02:12:55.000 It's gorgeous.

02:12:56.000 All right, Hayden said, I think in order to vote you should have to pass a U.S.

02:12:59.000 citizenship test as well as a basic civics test.

02:13:02.000 If you can't pass basic U.S.

02:13:03.000 knowledge and a test on how the government works, you can't vote.

02:13:06.000 The issue I see is who administers the test and determines the answers.

02:13:10.000 You know, I don't completely agree, but I don't disagree either.

02:13:13.000 Like, you get a license to drive a car.

02:13:15.000 Well, voting is serious.

02:13:16.000 Shouldn't you just go to, you know, and when you're registering to vote, you get to pass a test so you understand how the process works and why it works the way it does?

02:13:24.000 Sounds like it makes sense to me.

02:13:24.000 It's interesting if the test was just about how the process worked.

02:13:27.000 Voting is a right.

02:13:28.000 It's not a license issued by the state.

02:13:30.000 Yeah.

02:13:31.000 Well, gun ownership is a right. 0.77

02:13:33.000 And in many places you need a license issued by the state.

02:13:35.000 I agree.

02:13:36.000 Not saying if it makes any sense, but yeah, there's a consistency there for sure.

02:13:39.000 Yup.

02:13:40.000 I mean, but dude, skin in the game, older.

02:13:43.000 I understand so many of the earlier voting restrictions that were in place now as I get older with more to conserve.

02:13:53.000 I was so crazy when I was young.

02:13:55.000 I wanted to say that, but I was like, wait, is he going to talk?

02:13:57.000 Is he going to talk?

02:13:58.000 Just let that last comment fester.

02:14:00.000 It sure did.

02:14:03.000 Just looking for some good superchats.

02:14:06.000 Taking it easy.

02:14:07.000 Got a lot of superchats.

02:14:09.000 Sean Williams says, Prosecutors dropping charges is them telling rioters their lives are worthless.

02:14:15.000 That their lives are worth less than the cost of the ammo used to end it.

02:14:19.000 The day is coming when the people will take the law into hand.

02:14:21.000 And that's what I'm worried about.

02:14:22.000 I'm worried about that in a couple different ways.

02:14:25.000 Like in V for Vendetta, when the guy's telling the story about, he's like, I can see everything happening.

02:14:30.000 And then he's at line where he says, eventually someone will do something stupid, and the cop kills a little girl, and then the people just come out and start beating the cop to death.

02:14:37.000 I don't think we're anywhere near that, but we're at a point where cops are arresting business owners. 0.96

02:14:42.000 Sooner or later, someone's gonna get seriously hurt.

02:14:45.000 So, if this keeps going on, how long until someone actually violently defends their property and their business?

02:14:52.000 And then the cop who shows up, shoots the guy.

02:14:56.000 Big difference between defending your property from a looter and defending your property from a law enforcement officer.

02:15:03.000 Wow.

02:15:04.000 That's a big step to take.

02:15:07.000 So, imagine what we're seeing now, right?

02:15:09.000 We've got multiple videos of business owners yelling at the health inspector, the health officials citing them, screaming, you can't do this to me, it's not a law, you can't do this, and getting fairly aggressive.

02:15:20.000 At a certain point, I worry that somebody is gonna, you know, be in their business.

02:15:26.000 Maybe worry's not the right word, but it's possible, I think, would happen.

02:15:29.000 And they're gonna be like, my life has been destroyed.

02:15:32.000 I'm starving.

02:15:34.000 I have no money.

02:15:35.000 And this is it for me.

02:15:36.000 I have nothing left to lose.

02:15:38.000 And they just punch somebody in the face who comes into their business.

02:15:41.000 The cops show up and they say, you know, essentially suicide by cop. 0.64

02:15:44.000 Like, this is my last stand.

02:15:45.000 The movie Falling Down.

02:15:48.000 But then what happens when there's a local business owner.

02:15:51.000 Imagine this possible scenario.

02:15:52.000 I don't think it's very likely, but just imagine.

02:15:55.000 You've got a beloved restaurant.

02:15:57.000 The neighbors always come down and they go and they see, you know, Alan and he makes their sandwiches and he serves them every day.

02:16:03.000 And he's loved by the neighborhood.

02:16:05.000 His life's been completely destroyed now.

02:16:08.000 He's ripped into a savings.

02:16:09.000 He's lost his home.

02:16:10.000 His business has been destroyed.

02:16:11.000 It's been a year of lockdown.

02:16:13.000 They keep fining him.

02:16:14.000 And he says, I have no choice.

02:16:15.000 Either I do this or I don't eat.

02:16:17.000 What am I supposed to do?

02:16:18.000 It's like we saw in Tunisia.

02:16:20.000 The guy who sparked the Arab Spring.

02:16:22.000 The government kept telling him you can't sell your fruit anymore.

02:16:25.000 He had a fruit cart.

02:16:26.000 And they kept saying no.

02:16:26.000 So eventually he went in front of one of the government buildings and self-immolated.

02:16:30.000 And then the entire North Africa just lit up.

02:16:33.000 People snapped.

02:16:35.000 So imagine you have this guy.

02:16:36.000 Beloved member of the community.

02:16:37.000 Everybody knows him.

02:16:38.000 He's a happy little old, you know, late 50s guy who's always... The kid comes by and he's like, let me get you a sandwich.

02:16:43.000 Don't worry.

02:16:43.000 It's on me.

02:16:44.000 And everyone loves him.

02:16:45.000 And then one day after finally being beaten down, he says, enough.

02:16:49.000 And then he tries shoving and fighting and then the cops tase him.

02:16:52.000 He goes down in a heart attack.

02:16:54.000 And then the people who know and love him just snap and start beating the crap out of everybody who was enforcing these laws.

02:16:59.000 How long until people just break?

02:17:02.000 It happened in Tunisia.

02:17:03.000 I think that there is a comparison to be made here with the perceptions in the African-American community that the police have already been doing this to them.

02:17:12.000 They've already been killing them. 0.97

02:17:13.000 They've already been, quote, violating black bodies and black space. 1.00

02:17:16.000 And we've seen the reaction. 0.96

02:17:19.000 It's already happening.

02:17:20.000 What you're asking is, is another subgroup of Americans going to feel as though that the police are their enemy and start lashing back?

02:17:28.000 It's already happening in America, right now.

02:17:31.000 Not even, like, on that big of a scale.

02:17:32.000 Just, like, one person.

02:17:34.000 So, like I mentioned, the V for Vendetta, the little girl is running in the street, and then the guy holds up the badge and then shoots the girl, and then the people just come out and they don't care anymore.

02:17:41.000 So, like, what happens when, I guess, it's not even about the police in general.

02:17:46.000 They just don't view him as a cop anymore.

02:17:47.000 They just view him as a guy who killed their friend, and they just don't care.

02:17:51.000 They got nothing left to lose.

02:17:52.000 If too many people, this business owner and the people who live around him, feel like everything, all is lost, I'll tell you this, because I've now cited this like five days in a row.

02:18:01.000 It was a writing from Ulysses S. Grant who said, anybody who feels that the government is repressing them has the natural right to revolution.

02:18:07.000 But just know, when you declare this, you are staking your life, your property, and your guarantees as a citizen.

02:18:13.000 And should you lose, you must live under your conqueror.

02:18:16.000 If they've already taken people's property, stripped them of their guarantees as a citizen, and are now putting their life in jeopardy, that's when you see Arab Spring-level snapback. 0.94

02:18:26.000 I was just trying to explain this to my daughter, who's 15 years old, just the other day in the car.

02:18:32.000 And I got amped up.

02:18:33.000 And she sees it sort of my way, but she's also in Montgomery County School, so she's getting the leftist stuff.

02:18:40.000 I combat it all the time.

02:18:41.000 And I got amped up, man.

02:18:42.000 You're right.

02:18:43.000 You're absolutely right.

02:18:45.000 We have had revolution for less of an infringement than what is happening right now and what will be happening for the foreseeable future.

02:18:59.000 These are the conditions for revolution.

02:19:01.000 It is in our history.

02:19:02.000 There is precedent.

02:19:04.000 Even other countries, too.

02:19:06.000 I'm worried it'll look more like Syria, though. 0.99

02:19:08.000 So, like I mentioned, the Arab Spring.

02:19:10.000 The guy in Tunisia was trying to sell, I think it was apples and fruit.

02:19:14.000 And the government kept stopping and stopping him, and he couldn't survive anymore.

02:19:17.000 So he lit himself on fire.

02:19:19.000 Everybody went nuts.

02:19:20.000 There was some papers were written about what caused the Arab Spring.

02:19:24.000 And one of the... They said that there's three components that people need.

02:19:29.000 And it's like food, security, and I think maybe like water or something.

02:19:33.000 I don't know.

02:19:33.000 Shelter, I think.

02:19:34.000 Shelter, food, and security.

02:19:35.000 Like knowing that you're going to be safe.

02:19:37.000 Otherwise, you start getting anxious when you have no security.

02:19:39.000 If you have no shelter, then you have nothing to lose.

02:19:41.000 You have nowhere to go.

02:19:42.000 And if you're starving, then you become absolutely desperate.

02:19:45.000 And they're basically saying that the price of food was rising so much that people had become so desperate they just snapped.

02:19:51.000 They were angry and fed up and didn't care anymore.

02:19:53.000 So I think the riots we saw earlier the year were part of that.

02:19:56.000 They redirected it into, you know, Black Lives Matter stuff.

02:20:00.000 They control that flow of anger.

02:20:02.000 But what happens when regular apolitical people who just don't care and aren't interested in politics are brought to the brink, and it's like they're being pushed every day a few more feet to the edge of the cliff.

02:20:13.000 Eventually, they're gonna be looking down going, I can't go any further, man, and they're gonna turn around and they're gonna grab the stick and start swinging with it.

02:20:17.000 What is so weird I see happening is like these, in my town, Washington, D.C., so many restaurants have shut down, so many bars have closed, for good, permanent, gone, and yet, who do they blame?

02:20:30.000 They blame Donald Trump!

02:20:31.000 Right? So like where the anger goes is a whole nother question.

02:20:36.000 There could be that kind of anger, but where does it get directed?

02:20:39.000 When you're describing that situation, I was literally thinking about my family members and their stories about

02:20:45.000 the Solidarity Movement, where they fought back under communism, since again, communism set up martial law, and

02:20:51.000 it created a situation where people weren't able to provide for themselves, weren't able to buy products, weren't able

02:20:57.000 to survive.

02:20:58.000 And then they revolted against the communist USSR state and fought back and successfully were able to win.

02:21:05.000 What did they do?

02:21:07.000 Well, there was a large massive peace, you know, first it started as a kind of very large peaceful movement.

02:21:13.000 It was a movement that solidified a lot of the working unions and a lot of the working class as well as the church that came together and resisted and called for national strikes that didn't cooperate with the larger kind of system.

02:21:25.000 That the USSR wanted the USSR literally sent down tanks and they were about to reinvade Poland because of this mass movement that the Polish government tried to squash down and try to destroy and we could talk about this tomorrow because this is I have a lot of things to say especially my uncle being sent to jail and all these crazy personal stories that I could share that Is a huge testament to what I'm seeing kind of right now happening in the United States.

02:21:53.000 That's a big red flag and a big warning sign for me personally and from where my family in Poland came from.

02:21:59.000 Yeah.

02:22:00.000 Well, so I was saying before, as I'm worried what we see, what's happening here might be more akin to Syria than it was like the Civil War or the Revolution in that you've got different factions that don't agree with each other.

02:22:09.000 And so if we get to the point where the pressure from this lockdown breaks people, you'll have Antifa on their autonomous zones, which we've been seeing for some time, and they're armed militias.

02:22:19.000 They're walking around with like, you know, AR-15s and, you know, other, you know, rifles.

02:22:23.000 And they're taking this territory and saying it's theirs.

02:22:25.000 Well, why would a conservative group interfere?

02:22:29.000 They're not going to go to Portland.

02:22:30.000 They don't care about Portland.

02:22:31.000 They're going to have their autonomous zone in their area.

02:22:33.000 Eventually you're going to have the Joe Biden establishment apparatus trying to quell different factions who are pushing back and resisting.

02:22:39.000 And then eventually you might see the leftist groups start to come together and the right-wing groups have to come together.

02:22:44.000 And then the left and the right groups don't agree with each other.

02:22:47.000 But for the time being, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

02:22:50.000 So what happens after the establishment, and this is an extreme hypothetical, what happens then if the establishment, you know, government, whatever, just crumbles, and then you have the right-wing faction and the left-wing faction?

02:23:01.000 Some kind of split?

02:23:02.000 All sorts of cryptocurrencies will start popping up.

02:23:04.000 Thank you, Trump.

02:23:05.000 Because he doesn't know.

02:23:07.000 He doesn't know.

02:23:07.000 Well, they're trying to pass a new law right now that will make you having your own wallet your own private keys

02:23:13.000 illegal The US Treasury Department is trying to thank you Trump's a

02:23:16.000 proposal right now exactly why is Trump doing something like this? 0.97

02:23:18.000 That's absolutely ridiculous. No, he doesn't know he doesn't know how many times can you keep saying that until you 0.96

02:23:25.000 really finally?

02:23:26.000 Understand the bigger kind of ramifications behind that Totally.

02:23:29.000 I mean, I mean, I've been I supported him and and I support him 2016 2020 also openly critical the entire time.

02:23:37.000 And this is one of the key areas for sure.

02:23:40.000 Tim, on your last point, it's funny to think who would be a great unifying force that would bring the far right and the far left together?

02:23:50.000 And you know who it is?

02:23:51.000 It's a Kamala Harris presidency.

02:23:55.000 Yes.

02:23:55.000 Right?

02:23:55.000 That could be what makes people on the far left of the far right actually see that they have a common goal.

02:24:01.000 Temporarily.

02:24:02.000 Yes, of course temporarily.

02:24:03.000 All alliances are temporary.

02:24:05.000 But then, you know, what might end up happening is one of the, you've got multiple ideological factions with a singular enemy.

02:24:13.000 And then once, you know, they start winning or getting ground, they shove out one of the other factions.

02:24:17.000 Of course.

02:24:18.000 I mean, this is, this is how it works.

02:24:19.000 We'll win this fight and then we'll deal with our stuff later.

02:24:22.000 No, but like even before they've won, once they start realizing that the establishment government is weakening, you get a Mexican standoff.

02:24:29.000 Everyone's staring at each other.

02:24:30.000 And it's like, Oh, you know, who's going to pull the trigger.

02:24:33.000 Yeah.

02:24:34.000 All right, let's see.

02:24:34.000 I don't think Dan's as bad as everyone says.

02:24:37.000 I think he's kind of a chill dude, and he's someone you can talk to.

02:24:39.000 the Navy SEAL, they made a movie about him, Lone Survivor.

02:24:42.000 Also, I'm a Trump supporter and I love Dan.

02:24:44.000 Maybe it's because I'm a disabled vet." 0.99

02:24:46.000 I don't think Dan's as bad as everyone says.

02:24:48.000 I think he's kind of a chill dude and he's someone you can talk to.

02:24:51.000 So he's certainly, you know, but a lot of Trump supporters really don't like him.

02:24:55.000 But the left doesn't like Tulsi and, you know, so I don't see how she's... 0.97

02:25:00.000 I like Tulsi.

02:25:01.000 You do too.

02:25:03.000 But I don't see... You know, I don't know who would be a better candidate, honestly.

02:25:09.000 I don't think there's a unifying leftist candidate.

02:25:11.000 Unless it's an enemy, like you said, Kamala Harris.

02:25:13.000 You know?

02:25:14.000 Someone said Donald Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, 2024.

02:25:17.000 Wow.

02:25:19.000 MW says, what the hell is up with EN and banks?

02:25:22.000 My god.

02:25:23.000 Well, I got, when I, you know, I posted a Thomas Jefferson quote on my Twitter earlier that he thinks, thought that standing banks are more dangerous, or that the banking establishment is more dangerous than standing armies.

02:25:35.000 And I, once you see compound interest and the way that they profit off of loans, they used to call it usury, which was illegal by, it was by death.

02:25:43.000 They would kill people for requesting interest on loans.

02:25:47.000 They don't do that anymore.

02:25:49.000 Now they love it!

02:25:49.000 Yeah, it shouldn't be a for-profit industry, banking, I don't think.

02:25:53.000 And the fact that they're creating poverty and getting rich off of it.

02:25:58.000 Socialists up here.

02:26:00.000 Yep.

02:26:01.000 Bruh says, Jack is wrong.

02:26:02.000 Voting is not a right.

02:26:03.000 It's a privilege granted that can be revoked.

02:26:06.000 Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that we have a right to vote.

02:26:10.000 Actually, it's not true.

02:26:12.000 Which?

02:26:12.000 Which isn't true?

02:26:14.000 That Bra is wrong. 0.87

02:26:16.000 In the Constitution, Amendment 17, it says Senators will be appointed by popular vote in each state.

02:26:22.000 No, actually, I'm sorry, I'm wrong.

02:26:24.000 That doesn't necessarily still grant you the right to vote as an individual.

02:26:27.000 It just says Senators will be chosen by a popular vote, but then voting could be determined in any which way.

02:26:31.000 It's not specified.

02:26:32.000 So I was wrong on that.

02:26:33.000 Actually, Bra, I believe, is correct. 0.89

02:26:35.000 Yeah.

02:26:36.000 You got me.

02:26:37.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

02:26:39.000 Nova Zero says, Killdozer Tim, please buy a bulldozer for your property.

02:26:43.000 That is a folklore hero that embodies the rage, willing to cause damage, but not willing to take lives and unwilling to be stepped on by the government.

02:26:50.000 His customer said nothing in tacit approval.

02:26:54.000 You know the Killdozer story, right?

02:26:55.000 You've told it to me.

02:26:56.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:26:57.000 I don't know about all that, but... A bulldozer that vibrated really fast, so it dug with its vibration, so you could cut through steel with it.

02:27:05.000 Are you super cool?

02:27:06.000 Yeah.

02:27:07.000 Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

02:27:08.000 Cool, cool, cool.

02:27:09.000 And I was joking earlier.

02:27:10.000 I actually have no position.

02:27:10.000 disabled vets who are also Trump supporters have less issues with Crenshaw than you think.

02:27:14.000 No, you're probably right. I'm not saying every Trump supporter doesn't like Crenshaw.

02:27:17.000 I just know that there's a lot of them that don't.

02:27:19.000 And I was joking earlier. I actually have no position. I don't really know him.

02:27:23.000 I think he's a cool dude.

02:27:24.000 I think he's a cool dude.

02:27:25.000 I think I disagree with him a lot on a lot of issues.

02:27:27.000 But, you know, the difference between him and some of the, like, older Republicans is I don't see Crenshaw as a crony corporatist.

02:27:35.000 He's probably got policy positions I don't like.

02:27:37.000 I know he's spoken in favor of having a presence in the Middle East and stuff.

02:27:39.000 I completely disagree.

02:27:41.000 Far be it for me to tell him.

02:27:42.000 I mean, he was actually there and fought in the war.

02:27:44.000 But then I see someone like Tulsi, you know, who's a major in the National Guard, and maybe not the same experience as him.

02:27:49.000 But, you know, I just don't like war, so.

02:27:52.000 But anyway, Jack, thanks for hanging out.

02:27:54.000 Hey, thanks for having me, Tim.

02:27:55.000 Thank you very much, Lydia.

02:27:57.000 Always so nice to see you.

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02:28:00.000 I have a website.

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02:29:05.000 We also got Luke, who's chillin'.

02:29:06.000 Yeah, thanks for joining us, Jack, from the North Pole.

02:29:09.000 I know it's a very busy time of year for you here.

02:29:13.000 You're the one with the elf hat on.

02:29:15.000 I gotta point something out, though.

02:29:17.000 Someone made a comment in the chat saying that they don't trust men who dye their beards.

02:29:20.000 Yeah, well, I'm not your guy, boss.

02:29:22.000 You dye your beard?

02:29:24.000 Fake news!

02:29:25.000 That's why I brought it up so you could correct the record.

02:29:27.000 The beard is perfectly natural.

02:29:29.000 My loving girlfriend, who's a hairstylist, gave me a trim right before I came up here.

02:29:33.000 It looks extra good today.

02:29:34.000 Thank you.

02:29:34.000 But the color just is how it is.

02:29:35.000 The color is totally natural.

02:29:37.000 And I'm testing out a beard product, Mad Viking beard product.

02:29:40.000 Testing it out today.

02:29:41.000 We'll see how it goes.

02:29:43.000 Right on.

02:29:44.000 Luke, do you have a... So yes, if you'd like to find more stuff from me, check out my YouTube channel, We Are Change.

02:29:50.000 And wow, coincidentally, I'm also wearing one of the t-shirts, which you could get.

02:29:53.000 Bill Gates is not a medical doctor.

02:29:56.000 Which states a fact, which you could also purchase on teesprings.com forward slash we are change, no, stores, we are, teesprings.com, we are change.

02:30:04.000 Just look it up, you'll be able to find it.

02:30:06.000 And that supports my work.

02:30:07.000 And thanks for allowing me to push that.

02:30:09.000 Right on.

02:30:10.000 We also got this weird dude with a crystal ball.

02:30:12.000 I am a gorilla.

02:30:14.000 Live strong.

02:30:15.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:30:17.000 The opposite.

02:30:17.000 That's me.

02:30:18.000 Anti-jumps.

02:30:19.000 Thank you guys, everybody, so much.

02:30:20.000 And shout out to you guys in the chat that have been watching and supporting us for so long.

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02:30:32.000 Do you have merchandise, Jack?

02:30:34.000 Because I want to get a Jack Murphy hat.

02:30:36.000 I have some merchandise.

02:30:38.000 Check it out.

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02:30:41.000 I'll pimp it there hard.

02:30:42.000 Don't you worry about it.

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02:30:46.000 I'm pushing all the buttons in the corner.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 17, 2020

Timcast IRL - Rand Paul Says The Election Was STOLEN Amid Fraud Hearing, w- Jack Murphy

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