Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Report Says Dominion Machines Flipped Votes, Bill Bar RESIGNS, w- Hunter Avallone

00:00:00.000 you you

00:00:32.000 you literally like 10 seconds before we started we blew a fuse

00:00:57.000 in the studio and And so I had to run down two flights of stairs to hit the switch and run right back up.

00:01:03.000 So, uh, how y'all doing?

00:01:04.000 We're having a good time.

00:01:05.000 I think today was the craziest day in a really long time.

00:01:09.000 Bill Barr apparently was fired or resigned.

00:01:11.000 I guess depending on which tribe you're asking.

00:01:13.000 A report came out.

00:01:15.000 We got Hunter Avalon in the studio.

00:01:17.000 We are recording this.

00:01:18.000 So even though the internet's giving us the business.

00:01:20.000 Okay.

00:01:21.000 Yeah.

00:01:21.000 So we're gonna, are we gonna record this one and stuff?

00:01:23.000 It's still recorded.

00:01:24.000 Okay.

00:01:24.000 Yeah, we're live.

00:01:25.000 Hi, everybody.

00:01:25.000 So make sure you talk, try and talk as close as you can to the mic, keep it with you, and don't pound the table.

00:01:30.000 But who are you?

00:01:31.000 What are you doing here?

00:01:32.000 Yeah, well, I'm here because you said I could.

00:01:35.000 I was like, yeah, come hang out.

00:01:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I really built a fairly sizable YouTube channel by really talking a lot of right-wing politics.

00:01:45.000 Primarily social issues.

00:01:46.000 That's really what I primarily focus on even now.

00:01:50.000 But yeah, I started off pretty notorious for being a rampant transphobe. 0.99

00:01:57.000 I would be the type of person to tell you that being transgender is a mental illness. 1.00

00:02:02.000 You know, getting your genitals hacked off and all that kind of stuff. 1.00

00:02:05.000 That was my whole MO, right? 0.97

00:02:07.000 And it wasn't until later on, as I got a little older, that I started to get a lot more disaffected with my experiences with the right.

00:02:14.000 And then it wasn't until April this year when I decided to formally announce that I had left the right, and I now consider myself more of a centrist or center-left.

00:02:23.000 Primarily because, yeah, I find myself disagreeing with the right wing on social issues a lot also, just more and more.

00:02:29.000 We have had so many people on the show who are, like, left the left.

00:02:32.000 Former Democrats.

00:02:33.000 So I think it's rad that you came down, man.

00:02:35.000 Thanks, man.

00:02:35.000 And I guess you weren't even that far away to begin with, so it's not, like, too difficult.

00:02:38.000 Not at all.

00:02:38.000 We also got Luke Rutkowski, who just, like, I guess he lives here now.

00:02:40.000 He lives in my parking lot.

00:02:42.000 Timothy, why does this microphone smell like a Texas saloon?

00:02:47.000 Don't ask me.

00:02:48.000 What have you been doing with it?

00:02:49.000 I don't know.

00:02:50.000 Who was here before me?

00:02:51.000 Alex Jones.

00:02:52.000 It was Alex Jones.

00:02:54.000 Hi guys, I'm Luke and I am the space troop commander behind the YouTube channel We Are Change.

00:03:00.000 Thanks for having me and thanks for letting me live in your parking lot.

00:03:02.000 No problem.

00:03:03.000 Ian's chilling.

00:03:03.000 Hey everybody.

00:03:04.000 Kudos to you.

00:03:06.000 I'm here in the corner.

00:03:07.000 So this is, I don't even know where to begin today.

00:03:10.000 I'm ready to just like put my feet up, light a cigar or something.

00:03:13.000 I don't even smoke.

00:03:13.000 I don't even drink, but cigars and beers.

00:03:15.000 A little bit of nicotine buzz.

00:03:18.000 Okay.

00:03:19.000 Let's, let's, let's, let's talk about this report first.

00:03:22.000 As many of you are aware, we are not allowed to make specific claims on YouTube.

00:03:27.000 They'll remove the live stream.

00:03:29.000 But we have this report from Allied Security Group, which got released earlier today.

00:03:33.000 A judge ordered it be released.

00:03:35.000 And let me just read you one quote from Section B, Subsection 2, saying, We conclude that Dominion Voting Systems is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.

00:03:51.000 The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors.

00:03:55.000 The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication.

00:03:58.000 The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail.

00:04:03.000 This leads to voter or election fraud.

00:04:07.000 Based on our study, we conclude that the Dominion voting system should not be used in Michigan.

00:04:12.000 We further conclude the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.

00:04:16.000 Now let's talk about who this guy is.

00:04:17.000 They say who we are.

00:04:18.000 The first guy.

00:04:20.000 My name is Russell James Ramsland, Jr., and I'm a resident of Dallas County, Texas.

00:04:23.000 I hold an MBA from Harvard University and a political science degree from Duke University.

00:04:27.000 I have worked with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, among other organizations, and have run businesses all over the world, many of which are highly technical in nature.

00:04:38.000 I have served on technical government panels.

00:04:41.000 So this has been one of the biggest stories of the day.

00:04:44.000 Interestingly, if you Google search this and you try and look it up, you're not going to find the report.

00:04:50.000 You're going to find a lot of articles saying, unproven, baseless, Trump supporters and things like that.

00:04:57.000 Which is very strange framing for a news organization because even if you don't agree with this guy or you think he's a hack or you think he's just trying to help Trump, you'd simply say an independent audit, you know, as the result of a lawsuit from Republicans made these claims.

00:05:11.000 That's just the news.

00:05:13.000 If you want to argue this guy is biased or right or wrong, I mean, you can.

00:05:17.000 But what's weird is that you go on Google, you try and find the story.

00:05:20.000 They don't tell you what's in the report.

00:05:21.000 They just say Trump supporters are pushing claims.

00:05:26.000 Yeah.

00:05:26.000 I know you, Hunter, had some opinions about this guy too, so do you want to express those opinions?

00:05:31.000 Yeah, sure.

00:05:32.000 Absolutely.

00:05:32.000 In the marketplace of ideas, right?

00:05:34.000 Yes.

00:05:35.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't agree that we should just be attacking someone's credentials.

00:05:40.000 I don't think that that's necessarily an argument against the report.

00:05:44.000 I do, however, think that this guy's credentials are important when we talk about the likelihood of bias in his report.

00:05:51.000 So, because he has been a Republican lawmaker, I think, or I know for a fact that he's donated a couple thousand dollars to different GOP people or whatnot, he was hired by the Trump admin, and it's very frequent for consultants to come to the conclusions that support the lawsuit.

00:06:12.000 I don't think that that necessarily means that this report should be completely ignored, but I do think that if anything what we should take that we should look at this report with a grain of salt and take that maybe as an indication that we need a better, more thorough, and more independent audit of these machines.

00:06:28.000 I would 100% be in support of an independent audit of Dominion voting machines, because since I don't really think voter fraud is, you know, a big issue, I would be more than happy to see that audited and hopefully the findings would, you know, That's the right answer!

00:06:42.000 Yeah, why has it been pulling teeth?

00:06:45.000 Because it had to go to a judge to get this released.

00:06:47.000 Why were the Democrats trying to block it from being released?

00:06:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:06:52.000 What I read today was—I don't remember who said what, but I know that one of them said, we're not really trying to hide anything.

00:06:57.000 You can go ahead and release the thing if you want to.

00:07:00.000 I know that the report is— That's interesting.

00:07:04.000 a lot of misinformation or at very least it has information that is quite similar

00:07:09.000 to previous unfounded voter fraud claims that have already been kind of debunked.

00:07:13.000 That's interesting. Wouldn't this bunk them? What do you mean? So like if they said

00:07:18.000 they were unfounded claims isn't this founding them? Well they actually

00:07:22.000 analyzed 22 machines.

00:07:23.000 Right, right, right.

00:07:24.000 Well, no, because I do think that this is extremely susceptible to bias.

00:07:27.000 And even more so, I mean, if... Do you want to say something?

00:07:30.000 No, yeah, I would question that because a lot of other people, like John Oliver, when he came to his show last week, tonight, almost last year, made very similar claims on his HBO show, warning us about Dominion, warning us about the accountability, warning us about the numbers.

00:07:45.000 Almost very similarly to the report that was just released by the Republicans, but this was an argument being made by, let's just say, the kind of leftist establishment institutions when it was against, you know, this larger idea of Russian collusion.

00:07:58.000 So what do you think of, like, other proponents of the left saying this election was a fraud four years ago, and now, like, John Oliver oddly kind of changing their mind and saying it's legitimate?

00:08:07.000 Specifically, John Oliver about a year ago produced a 20-minute segment And targeted a bunch of these voting machines, including Dominion, for the susceptibility to fraud.

00:08:16.000 It was really, really easy.

00:08:18.000 Now we have Republicans saying, wow, look at all this.

00:08:20.000 And now it's the establishment left saying, no, no, that can't possibly be the case.

00:08:24.000 I'm not too familiar with John Oliver.

00:08:25.000 I don't even watch him.

00:08:26.000 I don't really like him very much, to be honest.

00:08:29.000 I guess I would just want to know if you think that if they have an error rate of close to 70%, do you think we would have discovered that sooner than now?

00:08:39.000 68.05 so I think just just to cite what you're saying the tabulation log this is from section 8

00:08:45.000 For the forensic for the for the forensic examination of the server in antrim county for december 6 2020 consists of

00:08:51.000 15,000 676 individual events of which 10,000

00:08:55.000 667 or 68.05 of the events were recorded errors these errors

00:09:00.000 errors resulted in overall tabulation, errors or ballots being sent to adjudication.

00:09:04.000 The high error rate proves the Dominion voting system is flawed and does not meet state or

00:09:09.000 federal election laws." 0.72

00:09:10.000 Yeah, we did find it.

00:09:11.000 Texas rejected the machines.

00:09:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm, again, I'm not familiar with every individual talk show host or Texas

00:09:18.000 or stuff like that, but I do think that when, do you think that this is susceptible to bias?

00:09:25.000 Do you think that guy sounds kind of biased?

00:09:27.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:09:28.000 Well, as for whether he sounds like he's biased, I think one simple thing is true.

00:09:33.000 Do you think he's lying under oath with his presentation?

00:09:36.000 Was he under oath when he made that reply?

00:09:38.000 I believe this is a sworn statement presented to a court.

00:09:41.000 The judge had it.

00:09:42.000 I could be wrong.

00:09:42.000 You just read that thing where he calls it proof.

00:09:45.000 This evidence that I have is proof, so that's a red flag.

00:09:48.000 It is.

00:09:49.000 I mean, one of his claims was that... I don't know if he was under oath, actually.

00:09:53.000 One of his claims was that it was a system error rather than a human error.

00:10:00.000 Yes, voting system.

00:10:01.000 Right.

00:10:01.000 But I know that one of the people, I think it was a GOP Eisenhower, I don't remember his first name.

00:10:06.000 He was the one that made the error.

00:10:08.000 He was a Republican.

00:10:09.000 He made the error.

00:10:10.000 In Antrim?

00:10:11.000 Yeah, I believe so.

00:10:12.000 And didn't he even say, like, acknowledge that he was the one that made that error?

00:10:17.000 I can pull this up really quick from where I'm reading it from.

00:10:19.000 Yeah, see if you can pull it up because I'm not super familiar.

00:10:22.000 My thing is like, is this guy putting factually baseless statements about numbers and just like making up numbers and then giving them to a court?

00:10:32.000 I don't think there's a grand conspiracy.

00:10:36.000 I think Trump certainly is, you know, spitting and yowling, but if there's a grand conspiracy, Bill Barr would have just launched investigations and done what Trump wanted.

00:10:42.000 And if he's under oath, he would go to jail.

00:10:44.000 I don't know if he was under oath.

00:10:45.000 We don't know yet, but if he was, which most court proceedings, most evidence is under the right of perjury.

00:10:51.000 Yeah, I can't imagine.

00:10:52.000 Yeah, if he faked these numbers and gave them to a judge or presented them to a court, I can't imagine.

00:10:57.000 Now, I don't think that he's just lying.

00:11:00.000 Don't get me wrong, I don't think this guy's just making up some BS report and then just, like, lying about it under oath, or whether he's under oath or not, regardless.

00:11:07.000 I don't think he's lying about it.

00:11:08.000 I think that he probably did do something one way or another to get that error rate as high as possible.

00:11:16.000 Now, this is only a theory of mine that I have, because again, we're kind of still waiting for more info on this subject as well.

00:11:22.000 But I know that in Antrim County, there were a lot of errors at first that were then later fixed.

00:11:27.000 So my thought process was perhaps he was counting that error rate before the errors were fixed, which could be a possibility.

00:11:36.000 And if he was, that would mean that there's probably a ton of errors in other places that weren't caught and weren't fixed.

00:11:39.000 I mean, maybe.

00:11:41.000 This is why I would be all for, like, an independent, non-partisan investigation.

00:11:46.000 I know that Dominion voting machines have been under rigorous tests before, both state-level and national tests.

00:11:52.000 And have been rejected because of it.

00:11:53.000 They have been?

00:11:54.000 In Texas.

00:11:55.000 Texas rejected them after doing a test.

00:11:57.000 When?

00:11:57.000 When was this?

00:11:58.000 So, I don't know the exact year, but when Dominion went to Texas and said, we want to use these voting machines, they did tests on them and said, whoa, no way, we can't use these.

00:12:06.000 They're bad.

00:12:07.000 I would just want to know how long ago that was.

00:12:08.000 I mean, yeah, I know that in the beginning stages, I'm sure that they were much less unreliable, but they've been being used for a long time now.

00:12:16.000 I think also that if we were using voting machines that had such significant error rates, I kind of think we would have discovered that sooner.

00:12:25.000 And again, if his report was, there's an error rate, and that's concerning, that's one thing.

00:12:31.000 But the fact that he's trying to claim that that's a system fault.

00:12:35.000 It was January of this year, Texas rejected the machines.

00:12:38.000 Yeah, after they did tests on them from the Texan.

00:12:40.000 Texas rejected use of Dominion voting system software due to efficiency issues.

00:12:46.000 I think that should be, should have been off.

00:12:49.000 Oh, we switched to satellite.

00:12:51.000 Oh, good.

00:12:51.000 The lights turned off, everybody.

00:12:53.000 I think we're streaming.

00:12:54.000 We blew a fuse again.

00:12:56.000 We're gonna have to run some kind of like extension cable or something.

00:13:00.000 But there's the beeping.

00:13:03.000 Is it?

00:13:04.000 Oh, look at that.

00:13:04.000 We're still alive.

00:13:05.000 How you guys doing?

00:13:06.000 Does that mean the Pop-Tarts are ready?

00:13:08.000 That beeping is our reserve battery.

00:13:11.000 It just comes with beeping, unfortunately.

00:13:13.000 I'm gonna send a message to see if we can figure out what's going on.

00:13:16.000 Yeah.

00:13:16.000 So if the power goes out, the cameras and everything stay on, but the lights turn off because you know those aren't

00:13:20.000 as important.

00:13:20.000 Well, this is going to be fun.

00:13:22.000 I have no idea what's causing all that.

00:13:24.000 Is there anything we can we can turn off in terms of power for some reason?

00:13:27.000 Send a message to see if we can figure out what's going on.

00:13:29.000 Unplug some stuff if you can.

00:13:30.000 What were we talking about again?

00:13:34.000 Dominion stuff.

00:13:35.000 The Dominion voting stuff.

00:13:36.000 It was rejected for efficiency problems, so not necessarily susceptibility to error.

00:13:44.000 But that's a pretty important distinction.

00:13:46.000 At the end of it, if we all agree we should have an audit, then we should.

00:13:50.000 So the other RV is plugged in too.

00:13:51.000 Can you unplug that one?

00:13:54.000 It could be, actually.

00:13:55.000 No one's in the RV.

00:13:56.000 Nothing's being used.

00:13:58.000 There's no heat.

00:13:59.000 I have no heat on.

00:14:00.000 I have nothing on in the RV.

00:14:01.000 It can't be that.

00:14:02.000 Same with yours.

00:14:03.000 Just unplug them.

00:14:04.000 Just unplug both the RVs.

00:14:07.000 Yes.

00:14:08.000 I've had the power out at two in the morning when I'm alone, the only one in the house away.

00:14:11.000 Power keeps going out, everybody.

00:14:13.000 This is fun.

00:14:14.000 We think it's Luke's fault.

00:14:15.000 It's just so electric.

00:14:17.000 It's easy to blame him.

00:14:18.000 Blame me for everything. 0.99

00:14:18.000 I think we should just blame all the white males here. 0.99

00:14:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:14:21.000 Which is everyone but me, so. 0.98

00:14:23.000 I don't identify as white.

00:14:24.000 Or me.

00:14:24.000 I'm pink.

00:14:25.000 You're pink, yeah.

00:14:27.000 I'm an accuracy.

00:14:28.000 An accurate?

00:14:29.000 I'm an accurate.

00:14:30.000 Luke, you were saying something.

00:14:31.000 I was.

00:14:32.000 Yes.

00:14:33.000 Well, I was saying how both you guys made kind of good points here.

00:14:36.000 There should be a bipartisan kind of approach towards this.

00:14:38.000 But at the same time, we're in a time crunch.

00:14:41.000 When it comes to big companies overseeing this election, there should be a lot more scrutiny, a lot more oversight.

00:14:46.000 And I mean, I'm with John Oliver.

00:14:49.000 There's there's something that stinks with Dominion.

00:14:51.000 I think there's a lot.

00:14:52.000 He changed his position.

00:14:53.000 He, of course, changed his position now, but I agree with John Oliver a year ago when Donald Trump was in office.

00:14:59.000 Now that Joe Biden is in office, I disagree with John Oliver.

00:15:01.000 Joe Biden's not in office.

00:15:02.000 Well, technically, he had a whole big coughing speech today, which everyone is talking about on Twitter just right before the show went on, highlighting how he was coughing his way through his little accepting speech.

00:15:14.000 Is that how they're going to do it?

00:15:15.000 Is that how Kamala Harris becomes president?

00:15:16.000 I don't know, but there's a lot of people from left-leaning Twitter accounts saying, God, I hope he doesn't have the coronavirus from his latest speech.

00:15:24.000 That's literally what I'm seeing right now.

00:15:26.000 Maybe that's the next plan.

00:15:28.000 Maybe that's the next big leftist plan is to infect Biden with COVID so that he dies and then they can, boom, get count.

00:15:35.000 I mean, that's basically been the theory.

00:15:37.000 That was the plan all along anyway.

00:15:38.000 That's what I've heard anyway.

00:15:40.000 I saw a profile picture of Biden and his jowls are just like hanging down. 0.97

00:15:43.000 I haven't seen him in profile lately, but man, that guy looks wretched.

00:15:47.000 Have you noticed that like a lot of people in our government look like they're just like falling apart?

00:15:50.000 Did you see the picture of Mitch McConnell with like his hand like turning?

00:15:54.000 I love all the obese health ministers. 0.98

00:15:56.000 They're my favorite.

00:15:58.000 I love them.

00:15:58.000 That is hilarious to me.

00:16:00.000 And the Los Angeles health minister as well.

00:16:03.000 I don't like to judge people or comment about their personal looks, but if you're a health minister, you should look alive.

00:16:11.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:16:12.000 Nothing personal here. 0.84

00:16:13.000 It's one of those things like, can you be a fat person who understands health? 0.79

00:16:18.000 Sure.

00:16:19.000 Do as I say, not as I do.

00:16:20.000 But yeah, but it's like you want to set an example, right?

00:16:24.000 Do you guys ever see Beetlejuice?

00:16:26.000 Yes.

00:16:26.000 You know the part where like they're doing the, uh, the, the exorcism and then Alec Baldwin and I remember that as a lady's name, like they start like becoming really decrepit and like, then like, I think it's Alec Baldwin's jaw falls off or whatever.

00:16:38.000 That reminds me of like people in Congress, you know, like Joe Biden, like Nancy Pelosi, like Mitch McConnell.

00:16:44.000 Who was the person that was like, their tooth fell out?

00:16:46.000 I don't know.

00:16:47.000 Oh, that was a governor.

00:16:47.000 No.

00:16:49.000 Oh, Louie Gohmert.

00:16:50.000 Was that who it was?

00:16:51.000 Yeah.

00:16:51.000 Gohmert.

00:16:51.000 All I know is that he was talking and then like he saw his tooth fall out.

00:16:55.000 It's like, why are all these people falling apart?

00:16:57.000 Because young people... Because we're not terminists.

00:17:00.000 Yes.

00:17:00.000 Exactly.

00:17:00.000 There you go.

00:17:01.000 But I think young people are permanently children. 0.99

00:17:06.000 Like younger people are like permanent children now. 0.99

00:17:10.000 So, Where are the millennials who are standing up and running for office?

00:17:15.000 Josh Hawley?

00:17:16.000 Actually, where are the Gen Xers?

00:17:17.000 I think that's the issue.

00:17:18.000 There's like a gap.

00:17:19.000 Yeah, we do have millennials.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, we do.

00:17:21.000 I guess we have, is Rand Paul, how old is he, Gen Xer?

00:17:23.000 He's the Gen X, yeah.

00:17:24.000 I have no idea.

00:17:25.000 I could look that up right now.

00:17:26.000 Yeah, he's like 50 or something.

00:17:27.000 That's crazy.

00:17:28.000 Gen X, those people are old now.

00:17:29.000 How old do you have to be to be a boomer again?

00:17:31.000 It's like 60s.

00:17:32.000 Is that 60s?

00:17:32.000 Yeah, isn't that crazy?

00:17:34.000 Millennials are in their 30s.

00:17:36.000 How weird.

00:17:37.000 Yikes.

00:17:37.000 What does that make you?

00:17:38.000 You're not a millennial, are you?

00:17:39.000 I just missed the millennial because I was born in 1996.

00:17:41.000 So I think I missed it by, what was it, one year?

00:17:45.000 Oh yeah.

00:17:46.000 I don't know.

00:17:47.000 Not a millennial. 0.92

00:17:48.000 What is that?

00:17:49.000 What are you?

00:17:51.000 Gen Z is slightly more conservative than millennials in some ways.

00:17:58.000 For the first time in five generations, we saw a tick in the slight other direction.

00:18:04.000 They're still mostly progressive.

00:18:05.000 If you compare Gen Z to Gen X, It's almost like, like Gen Z is almost the same as millennial in terms of where they are politically, but they're slightly more conservative in some areas.

00:18:16.000 Sure.

00:18:16.000 And I think that's probably due to there being, I, my, my, my guess is more conservatives, more conservative Gen Z than more liberal.

00:18:24.000 Not that their ideologies changed.

00:18:25.000 I think it's just conservative parents will have conservative kids.

00:18:29.000 And because conservatives tend to have kids more than liberals, you're going to end up with more conservatives.

00:18:33.000 Sure.

00:18:33.000 So there you go.

00:18:34.000 I mean, I was an example of that, right?

00:18:36.000 I was a conservative kid.

00:18:38.000 I was raised homeschooled.

00:18:39.000 I actually think you're still a conservative.

00:18:41.000 I know.

00:18:41.000 Can you explain that to me as to why you think that is?

00:18:44.000 Well, because you were advocating for the rights of private corporations to, you know, do as they please, essentially.

00:18:50.000 And I was arguing in favor of regulation of corporations.

00:18:52.000 Right.

00:18:52.000 And honestly, I and I will admit that I haven't done enough research into regulation specifically.

00:18:58.000 I am not opposed, however, to something like you talked about Section 230 reform.

00:19:03.000 Yeah, I would be OK with that.

00:19:04.000 I would be OK with talking about that.

00:19:08.000 But I think my problem is, is when people like Trump say that we need to get rid of Section 230 protections when it's like they just don't know what the heck they're talking Yeah, he's stringing himself up with it.

00:19:18.000 That would be the end of all of these conservative channels.

00:19:20.000 If Section 230 was gone, like, we wouldn't be able to have this conversation live right now.

00:19:23.000 Well, we would because I'm verified on YouTube.

00:19:26.000 Ah, okay.

00:19:27.000 And that's the way it works.

00:19:28.000 The elites are allowed.

00:19:29.000 And I think that's what's coming, right?

00:19:30.000 Do you guys see that Pornhub just nuked all unverified content?

00:19:34.000 Luke's not nodding because he probably discovered it, like, manually.

00:19:36.000 Luke Brown was like, where's my favorite videos?

00:19:40.000 Pornography is a sin, and it's rotting away the youth of this nation and destroying their brains, and there's a strong argument... Is that a real opinion?

00:19:48.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a strong argument to make against pornography and the effects, especially on young children, that it's having that is rotting their brains away, literally.

00:19:56.000 I don't like porn.

00:19:56.000 I really, I don't like porn.

00:19:57.000 I think there's good porn, like one out of every 30 is good.

00:20:01.000 This is personal, this is anecdotal.

00:20:02.000 But were they actually like each other?

00:20:04.000 Okay, okay, no, no, hold on, hold on.

00:20:06.000 We're not talking about porn.

00:20:08.000 We're talking about... Let's talk about how you can't get a partisan, non-partisan group to look at this.

00:20:13.000 No, no, no, listen.

00:20:13.000 We're talking about how Pornhub nuked all unverified content.

00:20:17.000 Oh, we're talking about bureaucracy.

00:20:18.000 No, we're talking about censorship.

00:20:20.000 All unverified content was removed.

00:20:23.000 YouTube did this thing where they started pulling verification badges from channels.

00:20:27.000 I think YouTube is- Listen, it's a long- It's a long known in Silicon Valley thing that you can't change the rules overnight.

00:20:34.000 When- The famous story that I've told many, many times is that eBay used to be yellow.

00:20:40.000 You probably never heard this story, I'll tell you.

00:20:42.000 So the original eBay website was yellow.

00:20:44.000 One day they said, yellow is like off-putting.

00:20:46.000 We're gonna make a white background. 0.93

00:20:47.000 Yeah.

00:20:49.000 The next day, everybody revolted.

00:20:50.000 They were like, the site's awful, we hate it, what happened?

00:20:52.000 And they were getting endless complaints from people.

00:20:55.000 So they immediately changed it back.

00:20:56.000 Okay, okay, yellow.

00:20:57.000 Then, the next day, and for every day then on, they slowly incremented one tiny bit towards white.

00:21:03.000 Until a year later, the website was white.

00:21:05.000 No one cared.

00:21:06.000 Because no one noticed.

00:21:07.000 Exactly, no one noticed.

00:21:08.000 So what's happening now, I think, is you see Pornhub does this.

00:21:11.000 And everyone's like, well, it's Pornhub, whatever.

00:21:13.000 That makes sense, right?

00:21:14.000 Because there were crazy accusations about trafficking and underage girls.

00:21:18.000 I did always think that was kind of weird that anybody could upload stuff to Pornhub.

00:21:23.000 And I'm like, how do they verify the ages of these people?

00:21:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:26.000 Yeah, I used to think that same kind of stuff.

00:21:28.000 You probably got to verify that kind of stuff.

00:21:31.000 Especially if it could be trafficking.

00:21:32.000 You need to make sure these people are consenting to this stuff.

00:21:34.000 But then, I just think what's going to happen with YouTube, they did the verification removal wave, where all these channels got their badges removed.

00:21:42.000 Actually, if I could just really quickly cut in, because I remember that happening, because I was actually one of the creators that got contacted by YouTube and I was told that my creator badge was going to be taken.

00:21:52.000 And I was like pissed AF about it, obviously.

00:21:55.000 And then YouTube quickly said they weren't going to do that.

00:21:58.000 Yeah, because there was a revolt.

00:22:01.000 And that's the point, right?

00:22:02.000 How was that censorship, though?

00:22:05.000 Well, censorship is just like, you know, hiding information.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, but like taking the checks away wasn't, that's not censorship.

00:22:11.000 So it's frogs in a pot, right?

00:22:13.000 Now, since then, they've been pulling people from the partner program.

00:22:18.000 Instead of doing a wave of removing badges, they said, okay, we got to do it one by one individually to random people in different communities so that no one gets angry and starts a news cycle about it.

00:22:28.000 Since then, they've purged tons of channels.

00:22:31.000 This year alone, YouTube said in their own statement, 8,000 channels have been deleted.

00:22:36.000 So that's how they slowly start getting rid of them without causing an uproar.

00:22:39.000 The reason I bring this up is, in the Section 230 conversation, what I think's going to happen is eventually, YouTube's going to be like, you have to be verified to produce on YouTube.

00:22:50.000 So that's why I said we'll probably be fine, because I am a verified YouTube channel.

00:22:53.000 They never threaten to take my badges away.

00:22:55.000 They, you know, I have direct contact with people at Google.

00:22:58.000 They tell me, like, when there's rule changes, I can call them and they clarify and then, you know, they like me in that regard because I'm rather milquetoast, I suppose.

00:23:06.000 Well, the boiling the frog analogy is good because not a lot of people know this, but Scott Adams and Jeff Berwick just had their channels totally taken off.

00:23:14.000 And just like you said, the same thing kind of happened to me, but then they got rid of my partner program later on.

00:23:19.000 And I'm like, wait, what's going on here?

00:23:21.000 And another important thing that YouTube announced is that they also will start putting advertisements on channels that are not in the partner program anymore.

00:23:30.000 They could put ads on mine and I'm getting comments saying, Hey, there was an ad.

00:23:33.000 I'm happy I got, you know, I was able to watch it for you, Luke.

00:23:36.000 And I'm like, I'm not in the partner program anymore.

00:23:39.000 And that just happened a couple of days ago.

00:23:40.000 Are you verified?

00:23:41.000 Like you have a check mark?

00:23:42.000 I used to be verified.

00:23:43.000 I believe they took it away as well with the partnership program.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:47.000 So, so I think, I think one, I think what's going to happen next is they're probably not going to say anything cause they don't have to, but channels that don't have verification probably already are de-ranked in the algorithm.

00:23:59.000 Yeah.

00:24:00.000 I can't speak for... I know I can't speak for my anecdotes, but God, my channel's doing horrible right now and I'm verified.

00:24:07.000 So... But that's because you, like... That's because I left the right, right?

00:24:10.000 Well, yeah.

00:24:10.000 If you build an audience up where you say something like, you know, backflips are the best, and then all the backflip fans are going, yeah!

00:24:17.000 And then you change, I was wrong!

00:24:18.000 Front flips are better!

00:24:18.000 They're gonna be like, boo!

00:24:20.000 Right.

00:24:20.000 And that's exactly what's happening to me now.

00:24:22.000 Yeah, but if, you know... I'm gonna start purging my audience of some farther right people, unfortunately.

00:24:27.000 Have you thought about making a new channel?

00:24:29.000 No, because... No.

00:24:33.000 It's challenging enough right now to try to manage the one.

00:24:39.000 When I announced that I was leaving the right, having built a conservative audience, I knew that was going to be extremely controversial.

00:24:46.000 And I knew that it was going to be pretty detrimental to my career for the time being also, as far as view counts and everything goes.

00:24:53.000 Um, which is one of the reasons why I get really frustrated when people call me a

00:24:57.000 grifter.

00:24:58.000 They say that I just ditched the right and joined the left for the money or

00:25:02.000 whatever.

00:25:02.000 And I'm like, I lost like 50,000 subs so far for acknowledging that I'm no longer,

00:25:08.000 that I no longer really aligned with the right.

00:25:10.000 I think the hardest thing would probably, probably be to just choose to be wrong.

00:25:14.000 You know?

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 It's, it was hard to, I'm kidding.

00:25:17.000 Oh, really?

00:25:19.000 No, no, I'm sorry.

00:25:20.000 I thought you meant choosing to acknowledge that you were No, no.

00:25:23.000 Well, I guess that's a good point.

00:25:24.000 I did do that.

00:25:25.000 I decided to leave the right I'm kidding, by the way.

00:25:27.000 What did you what did you take start to take issue with that you used to believe?

00:25:32.000 Well, I started taking issues just with the right wing kind of in general first, and I know that conservatives, they're very broad.

00:25:41.000 I'm not trying to prescribe this on all conservatives by any means, but my experience anyway, I felt like especially the further right you went, tradition took precedent and so it was tradition over

00:25:53.000 really anything else even if that was at the expense of other people's rights so I

00:25:57.000 have a total problem with people who although maybe not conservative

00:26:01.000 would be far-right having those people being against gay marriage because it's

00:26:05.000 not traditional but Trump's for gay marriage and he was pro gay marriage

00:26:09.000 before he even ran for it before he ran

00:26:11.000 And then he was the, he's the first president to be pro-gay marriage before becoming president.

00:26:15.000 Yeah.

00:26:16.000 So like he entered office, he had that famous photo where he's unfurling the LGBT flag, but that's not like he's, but that's the problem is that's all he's done.

00:26:22.000 He's done, he's been very detrimental for the LGBT community. 1.00

00:26:25.000 I mean, well, but maybe the GBT community, but I think there's a lot of lesbians that are actually very, very much in support of him.

00:26:30.000 He actually has a really large base of gay men too.

00:26:32.000 Interesting.

00:26:32.000 Like, Peter Thiel spoke at the RNC and that was the first time a gay man spoke at the RNC.

00:26:37.000 More importantly, Trump gave a speech at the RNC and got the Republicans to clap and cheer for the LGBT community.

00:26:42.000 That was... I mean, you know, that may just be clapping.

00:26:46.000 It's not really policy.

00:26:47.000 It's virtue signaling, honestly, because what Trump's doing is he's signaling to this virtue that he's pro-LGBT, but yet Now that he's been in government, the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court if they could stop gay people from adopting, despite there being repeated longitudinal studies which show that kids raised by gay parents do not fare worse than their straight couple counterparts.

00:27:09.000 Did he ask or did he do it?

00:27:10.000 Well, he wanted to do it.

00:27:12.000 Do we know that for sure?

00:27:13.000 Is that source?

00:27:14.000 Yeah, you can look it up.

00:27:15.000 I believe it was Donald Trump went to the Supreme Court, if you want to look that up.

00:27:20.000 Again, I don't know all the details off the top of my head, so I'd love to have more info right here.

00:27:23.000 But was there a... Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:27:25.000 I think... Are you referring to when he said adoption agencies should be able to reject gay couples?

00:27:30.000 How long ago was that?

00:27:31.000 So this is June 4th of this year.

00:27:34.000 I thought it was more recent than that.

00:27:35.000 I thought he was talking about a time specifically where he wanted to... Taxpayer-funded organizations should be able to refuse to work with same-sex couples and others whom the group considers to be in violation of its religious beliefs.

00:27:47.000 Yes.

00:27:47.000 I'm not saying I agree with it.

00:27:48.000 I'm just... Here's the specifics.

00:27:49.000 I think that that would still kind of fall in line with violation of LGBT rights, especially when you talk about, like, there are a bunch of kids in our foster care system right now, and gay couples obviously are far more likely to adopt because they can't have children.

00:28:03.000 Or you do surrogates.

00:28:05.000 Well yeah, you can do surrogates, but also there's a lot of kids that need homes, that need loving parents, and I have two children.

00:28:13.000 I'm a dad, I'm married, and I am a strong proponent of the nuclear family, actually.

00:28:17.000 This is one of my most conservative traditional viewpoints.

00:28:19.000 So you're pretty anti-Black Lives Matter then?

00:28:22.000 No.

00:28:23.000 I know where you're going with that, though.

00:28:24.000 What do you mean?

00:28:24.000 Like, one of their core tenets is disrupting the nuclear family.

00:28:26.000 I don't know if that's one of their core tenets.

00:28:28.000 It was on their website until they pulled it out.

00:28:30.000 Exactly.

00:28:31.000 Because of backlash.

00:28:32.000 But the website.

00:28:33.000 I don't agree.

00:28:33.000 Well, I'm not saying like an individual who's cheering for it.

00:28:35.000 I'm saying like the organization itself advocated for disrupting the nuclear family.

00:28:39.000 And I don't like BLM organization.

00:28:40.000 But what I was saying is... So I was right.

00:28:43.000 Well, I like BLM, the movement, but not the organization.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:45.000 Well, I was referring to the organization, so you agree.

00:28:47.000 Sure, sure.

00:28:47.000 Yeah.

00:28:48.000 But yeah, no, I'm a big proponent of the nuclear family, but what I always say is that the nuclear family is just two parents raising children. 0.66

00:28:54.000 It doesn't have to be a straight couple raising the parents.

00:28:57.000 So, raising the kids.

00:28:58.000 So... Science actually agrees with you on that one.

00:29:00.000 Yeah.

00:29:01.000 They haven't been able to make a determination if it's male and female or just two parents.

00:29:06.000 And I think, like, Simply put, if we can get kids who are in orphanages or, you know, who need to be adopted to any loving family, like that's preferable to having a homeless kid who's living in the system, that's terrible.

00:29:19.000 Right.

00:29:20.000 So I, you know, but the, but yeah, there was a report that came out where it said like the science so far that we've done can't determine between male, you know, traditional like parents of like a male man and a woman or, you know, same sex couple.

00:29:32.000 Right.

00:29:32.000 And that's the children are benefited equally as far as we can tell.

00:29:35.000 So, so far.

00:29:36.000 Right.

00:29:36.000 So far, exactly.

00:29:37.000 And I know that, yeah, I don't know if it's the same study or another one, but I've looked at ones too that showed that they usually actually, when children of gay parents fare worse, it's because of like social stigma, because of the gay parents, not so much like because anything to do with the gay people necessarily.

00:29:53.000 But yeah, I mean, that's one instance, I guess, of Donald Trump expressing some anti-LGBT sentiments.

00:29:59.000 Just one of them. 0.77

00:30:01.000 I don't think that Trump is like this malicious anti-gay president, but I also think that he's a bit virtue signaling when it comes to that. 0.84

00:30:10.000 Trump virtue signals a lot. 0.88

00:30:12.000 Yeah.

00:30:12.000 Yeah, like tweeting repeal section 230.

00:30:15.000 It's a really, really bad idea.

00:30:16.000 But he's trying to let conservatives know, like, I'm fighting for you.

00:30:19.000 And it's kind of like, but you're giving them what they want when you say that.

00:30:22.000 Right.

00:30:23.000 These Democrats are like, no, wait, Trump, don't.

00:30:27.000 Because they want it to happen.

00:30:28.000 They want 230 gone.

00:30:29.000 He said he wanted to imprison people that desecrated the flag. 1.00

00:30:31.000 Yeah, that was stupid. 1.00

00:30:32.000 Insanity. 1.00

00:30:34.000 But a lot of conservatives agreed with him. 1.00

00:30:35.000 Stupid virtue signaling. 1.00

00:30:37.000 If it's your property and you want to burn it, so long as you burn it safely, I got no problem. 1.00

00:30:41.000 Either virtue signaling or pure idiocy. 0.99

00:30:43.000 Yeah, see, that's that. 0.91

00:30:44.000 And that was one of the that's like another thing that I was really concerned about with Trump is just his approach to free speech with with his calls to repeal Section 230 with his calls to to make it easier to sue media companies.

00:30:56.000 Right.

00:30:57.000 Like what we were just talking about.

00:30:58.000 I think that.

00:31:00.000 Well, suing media companies isn't a bad thing.

00:31:02.000 It could be if you could be more liable laws and stuff.

00:31:05.000 I mean, yeah, that was definitely the stop criticism of him, I believe.

00:31:09.000 Well, the issue is that there's a really tough standard right now from a ruling called Times v. Sullivan, where media outlets—you have to prove they knowingly lied, and it almost never even gets to the point where you can.

00:31:22.000 So there's things called anti-slap laws.

00:31:24.000 Basically, the New York Times could publish whatever—well, here's a better example.

00:31:27.000 The Today Show outright lied.

00:31:29.000 They used clever language in how they lied.

00:31:31.000 And if I did sue, they'd just be like, get out of here.

00:31:35.000 But I'm like, if we went to discovery, if you allow this case, I might find their messages where they say, hey, does this sound, you know, legit?

00:31:42.000 Because I know it's not true.

00:31:43.000 Who knows what they're saying behind the scenes, but you never even make it there.

00:31:46.000 So I definitely think there's room to solve some of these problems.

00:31:49.000 I actually think the solution is If there's a defamation, I should be able to sue for a correction if I can prove it was false.

00:31:57.000 That means even if you make a mistake, I can say, I would like you to correct this.

00:32:01.000 If you say no, I can sue you.

00:32:02.000 And the relief from the court is publish the correction if it's proven in the court to be true, but we don't even have that right now.

00:32:08.000 So something has to be done.

00:32:09.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:10.000 And you know, I know before we went live, you were showing me some examples of like media bias and stuff, and I would never deny that the media is incredibly biased and.

00:32:19.000 I mean, it would depend on the publication also, but I like your idea with the defamation thing.

00:32:23.000 That makes a lot of sense, actually.

00:32:24.000 Because it's weird right now where a news organization will publish something false, and then someone will sue and say, or someone will complain it's false and they'll say, well, we're not gonna correct it.

00:32:33.000 It's like, come on.

00:32:35.000 Like, that's just dirty.

00:32:37.000 But you can't sue for that.

00:32:38.000 You should be able to.

00:32:39.000 I don't know how you get to that point or how a law is made or whatever.

00:32:41.000 If you did, would they have to pay for court fees as well?

00:32:44.000 Yeah.

00:32:45.000 If you proved it to be false, then they should be responsible for the court fees.

00:32:48.000 Because that means before you went to court, you attempted to resolve the problem.

00:32:52.000 So, or I should put it this way, you know, if you don't attempt to resolve it, then maybe no.

00:32:57.000 But if I contact you and say, hey, this article is incorrect, here's the proof, and you say F off,

00:33:02.000 okay, I'm going to sue you, and when I win, you'll be responsible for court fees.

00:33:06.000 If they say F off, well then it's their problem.

00:33:08.000 What about damages?

00:33:09.000 No.

00:33:09.000 Okay.

00:33:11.000 If it's not intentional and you can't prove it, that's the problem.

00:33:14.000 Like, if I say something like, you know, Ian Crosland was wearing a blue sweater.

00:33:17.000 Don't say it!

00:33:18.000 Wearing a blue sweater.

00:33:19.000 Don't defame me like that.

00:33:20.000 And I was just like, you know what, I made a mistake because I... The lights were off.

00:33:25.000 The lights were off and it was an honest mistake, then we need that leeway for error.

00:33:31.000 Otherwise news organizations couldn't function.

00:33:33.000 But we can't allow them to just be like, I lied and you can't do anything about it!

00:33:36.000 That's where they're at right now.

00:33:38.000 Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that there's room for conversation there, but I think that Donald Trump's calling to repeal libel laws and the way he said it, too, is so we can make a bunch of money or whatever.

00:33:47.000 I don't think that it was coming from a sincere and nuanced perspective like what you have.

00:33:53.000 I think that it was coming from media companies are criticizing me and I want to be able to sue them easier.

00:33:58.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:34:00.000 You talk to a Trump supporter, they'll tell you one thing.

00:34:01.000 You talk to someone who hates Trump, they'll tell you the other.

00:34:03.000 So as far as I can tell, I just assess it on the merits.

00:34:06.000 Is there a good reason to go after the current system?

00:34:08.000 Absolutely.

00:34:09.000 It's kind of messed up.

00:34:10.000 So I just, you know.

00:34:11.000 Well, I'm glad we agree on the flag-burning thing, though. 0.99

00:34:13.000 You agree that that was... Oh, yeah.

00:34:16.000 It's, you know, traditional.

00:34:17.000 The left and the right in this country have flipped.

00:34:21.000 What are they calling it?

00:34:21.000 It's the realignment, I guess?

00:34:24.000 Yeah, the flippening or the realignment.

00:34:26.000 So like, you know, 10 years ago, for instance, Julian Assange, biggest hero to the left, right?

00:34:32.000 Now they hate his guts.

00:34:34.000 A lot of leftists do, however, want him pardoned as well.

00:34:36.000 So it's more like the neolib establishment left, who were never really the biggest fans of him for the most part anyway, but Oh, nobody likes them. 0.85

00:34:44.000 Yeah, but they're the establishment.

00:34:46.000 I think what really happened is that when Trump got elected, the establishment cronies from the Republican Party went to the Democrats, their next closest alignment.

00:34:54.000 But we are seeing an interesting alignment where like, I guess you voted, is it publicly you voted for?

00:34:59.000 Yeah.

00:34:59.000 You voted for Joe Biden.

00:35:00.000 Yeah.

00:35:01.000 See, like, for us, we're, I think, 10 years older than you.

00:35:05.000 That would never happen.

00:35:06.000 That's like, because Bush is essentially a neocon.

00:35:09.000 He's a warmonger.

00:35:11.000 He's, you know, an interventionist.

00:35:14.000 He, as part of, like, the Obama administration prosecuted more journalists and whistleblowers, you know, than any other.

00:35:20.000 Under the Espionage Act, more than all the other presidencies before him combined.

00:35:24.000 Yeah, so the left has become, like even, like the left has become the authoritarians.

00:35:30.000 It used to be that the Republicans, like when I was growing up, were the moral authoritarians, and the authoritarians, George W. Bush started these wars, and they wanted to ban, like, I've got art downstairs, where it's from the card game Magic the Gathering, and in the 90s, the right got some card art banned, had to be changed.

00:35:45.000 Today, the banned cards I have now came from the left getting art banned.

00:35:49.000 So it's like, you know, it's flipped.

00:35:51.000 The left is now very much so in support of these intelligence agencies, for the most part.

00:35:57.000 They're supporting Joe Biden.

00:35:59.000 He's stacking his cabinet with lobbyists and corporatists and Goldman Sachs. 0.90

00:36:03.000 All of the worst corrupt people imaginable.

00:36:07.000 And it's like, That's exactly why I voted for Donald Trump.

00:36:10.000 There's a reason why I went down to Occupy Wall Street and I was like, you know, the system's broken.

00:36:15.000 And there's a reason why I'm like, Joe Biden's a bad guy.

00:36:18.000 Because Joe Biden was vice president during Occupy Wall Street, when all of these leftists were coming out and complaining.

00:36:23.000 Interestingly enough, too.

00:36:24.000 You know, in 2016, we had the RNC and the DNC, right?

00:36:28.000 Do you know the left didn't protest the Republicans?

00:36:32.000 Do you know they protested the Democrats?

00:36:34.000 Really?

00:36:34.000 No, no, 2016?

00:36:34.000 That was um... Cleveland?

00:36:35.000 up in the thousands tried storming the barricades to break into the DNC.

00:36:39.000 Nobody went to the Republican convention.

00:36:41.000 Trump was down there.

00:36:42.000 I was in, where was that?

00:36:43.000 Was that, was that Florida?

00:36:44.000 No, no, 2016?

00:36:45.000 That was, um, Cleveland.

00:36:46.000 It wasn't Atlanta, was it?

00:36:47.000 No.

00:36:48.000 I don't remember.

00:36:49.000 I was shocked.

00:36:49.000 Wasn't Atlanta, was it?

00:36:50.000 No.

00:36:51.000 Charlotte?

00:36:53.000 Yes, there was one in Charlotte.

00:36:55.000 Well, Trump was there and he's like, you know, giving a speech to the Republicans where he says, you know, these people and, you know, I think he's talking about the Pulse nightclub shooting.

00:37:03.000 He said, there's a lot of people who have religious differences with this group, but these are Americans.

00:37:08.000 These are our people and they were attacked.

00:37:09.000 And everyone starts clapping and cheering.

00:37:11.000 Meanwhile, the Democratic National Convention, Bernie Sanders gets ripped off and the left is like trying to knock the barricades down and jump over and storm into the building.

00:37:20.000 So the left was protesting.

00:37:21.000 Now the weirdest thing happens is you get, like, these faux-progressive corporate, you know, independent commentators on YouTube and such, who are just like, the machine is right!

00:37:31.000 You know what my favorite thing is?

00:37:33.000 Is how, like, Rage Against the Machine, the band, is very much rage for the machine now, or rage on behalf of the machine.

00:37:38.000 They used to say things like, what's the famous line?

00:37:41.000 F-U, I won't- F-U, don't tell me what- I won't do what you tell me. 0.99

00:37:44.000 Now they're saying, F-U, you better do what we tell you! 0.76

00:37:46.000 Yeah.

00:37:46.000 How so?

00:37:47.000 So, uh, like lockdowns, for instance.

00:37:49.000 The left is very much in favor of the lockdowns and a stimulus.

00:37:52.000 Like, that's the antithesis of where the left would have been a while ago.

00:37:56.000 Definitely in favor of more socialist policy and stuff, but not letting the government just decree that we're going to bar you from leaving your homes, which they're doing, and they're cheering for.

00:38:06.000 I think my favorite thing about, like, Joe Biden is when he said, Trinidad and Shabba to pressure, and the audience was cheering for him. 0.72

00:38:11.000 It's like now that's something remarkable.

00:38:13.000 Shout out to Cassandra Fairbanks for pointing that out. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:16.000 It's like everyone's cheering.

00:38:17.000 What are they cheering for?

00:38:18.000 It's so weird.

00:38:19.000 Or Batacath care.

00:38:20.000 I think, you know, what happened is I think you weren't old enough, and I mean this with

00:38:26.000 no disrespect, you're 24.

00:38:27.000 No, it's fine.

00:38:28.000 You're 24, right?

00:38:29.000 Yeah.

00:38:30.000 So, like, Luke and I went through Occupy Wall Street.

00:38:32.000 Luke actually questioned Democrats on Barack Obama drone bombing kids and things like that

00:38:37.000 And either got lied to or had people say like, yeah, well, he should have had a better father.

00:38:42.000 Was that Gibbs?

00:38:42.000 Yeah, that's Barack Obama's spokesperson and his right-hand man throughout his entire political career, Robert Gibbs, who came out and literally got angry.

00:38:50.000 He was like, he should have had a better father.

00:38:53.000 Obama dropped a bomb on a kid in a civilian restaurant.

00:38:56.000 16-year-old American citizen. 0.87

00:38:58.000 Oh, that's horrible.

00:38:59.000 I mean Obama was the VP. I'm sorry Biden was the VP. He was overseeing Iraq and his brother got a lucrative multi-million

00:39:06.000 dollar contract for construction deals.

00:39:08.000 It's like the amount of evidence that has come out against the Bidens and it's just like completely ignored by the

00:39:13.000 left because either they're just tribalists who don't care and so they're like I just want to win.

00:39:19.000 And it's funny because they're the ones saying the con, just want to own the libs.

00:39:21.000 I'm like, dude, you just want to own the con.

00:39:22.000 It's all you want to do.

00:39:23.000 It's so funny hearing you say this, because with my experience, I feel like I've seen the same exact thing happen on the right.

00:39:29.000 Oh, the right just wants, like, they want to own the libs. 0.98

00:39:33.000 And there are people who go on Twitter and just...

00:39:35.000 Do you think that the right is heavily ideologically driven?

00:39:39.000 I've found that the right tends to already have a set of presuppositions and then they go out of their way to find support for their already held beliefs rather than the other way around, which is trying to approach it neutrally and then forming your opinion based on— That's both the left and the right.

00:39:57.000 Do you think it's both?

00:39:57.000 It's absolutely.

00:39:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 Oh yeah, and I would agree that it's both, for sure.

00:40:01.000 That's why I like to be in the center, right?

00:40:05.000 So right now, the right has more of the critical thinkers, and it's cancel culture.

00:40:10.000 That's basically why.

00:40:11.000 So you'll see, like, I was down at Occupy Wall Street.

00:40:14.000 I didn't agree with a lot of them because they were extremely racist people.

00:40:19.000 It was one of the most racist things I've ever experienced at Occupy.

00:40:22.000 and uh... but there a lot of economic populist there who are necessarily

00:40:26.000 in line with the weird racism stuff in their fights over it

00:40:29.000 that that i think the last has become predominantly racist relative to where the right is house

00:40:35.000 so so uh... occupy wall street they segregated voting blocks based on race

00:40:39.000 well that i'd just can't speak on that But would you agree that's racist?

00:40:42.000 To be like, we're gonna allow you to vote for how things are run here, but we want all the brown people here, all the black people here, all the Mexicans here, and all the Asians here, and you're all separated based on your color and you can vote. 0.73

00:40:52.000 Only one vote per group, no matter how many of you there are.

00:40:55.000 Wow.

00:40:55.000 So if you have like, that's fair.

00:40:57.000 No, no, no.

00:40:57.000 I said that's weird.

00:40:58.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:40:59.000 So that's what's happening at these universities with critical race theory stuff.

00:41:03.000 So they'd be like, there's 10 white people, three Asian people, and 15 black people.

00:41:08.000 You all get one vote based on your race.

00:41:10.000 So you get three votes, but that makes no sense because there's different numbers of people.

00:41:13.000 That's what Occupy was doing.

00:41:15.000 It's extremely racist.

00:41:16.000 And so that's when I started being like, what is this crazy stuff, man?

00:41:20.000 Anyway, the left has become particularly authoritarian in their application of things.

00:41:25.000 Well, how have they become authoritarian?

00:41:27.000 Besides the lockdown.

00:41:29.000 Yeah, the lockdowns.

00:41:30.000 So you also have cancel culture, right? 0.77

00:41:32.000 Censorship.

00:41:33.000 Supporting massive private corporations.

00:41:36.000 Corporations are essentially authoritarian structures.

00:41:39.000 I'm going to have to ask you more about this.

00:41:41.000 See, I'm such a leftist and you're such a conservative.

00:41:43.000 No, it's OK.

00:41:45.000 How are the leftists supporting corporations?

00:41:49.000 Censorship.

00:41:50.000 I mean, Donald Trump gave tax cuts to corporations, right?

00:41:53.000 He gave tax cuts to everybody.

00:41:55.000 But substantially more so to the corporations.

00:41:58.000 But what's wrong with that?

00:42:00.000 That's actually fairly libertarian.

00:42:01.000 Well, no, the problem with that was that he was going in there hoping that by lowering corporate taxes, we would see more businesses coming back to the U.S., but that's just not what happened.

00:42:10.000 Well, the economy did do ridiculously well in 2019.

00:42:13.000 But that wasn't because of Trump.

00:42:15.000 Why not?

00:42:15.000 Who was it because of?

00:42:16.000 It was because it's an economical fact that after a recession, the economy always comes back stronger.

00:42:21.000 After a recession 10 years ago?

00:42:22.000 I'm not saying you're wrong.

00:42:25.000 I'm saying if you can't give credit to Trump, then you can't blame George Bush for the recession.

00:42:31.000 You can't blame Obama for the recovery.

00:42:32.000 What did Trump do to help with the economy?

00:42:34.000 What did Trump do more specifically even to help with unemployment?

00:42:37.000 Tariffs.

00:42:38.000 There were immigration raids on processing plants which resulted, like, it's a variety

00:42:44.000 of factors but tariffs.

00:42:45.000 Tariffs didn't do that much.

00:42:46.000 That cost American taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in subsidies per job bringing back to the US.

00:42:53.000 Right.

00:42:53.000 That's true.

00:42:54.000 That's the point.

00:42:54.000 That's how the economy works.

00:42:56.000 So if you want to save money for the businesses and the elites, then you allow them to send their jobs to China, for instance, where they pay people garbage and there's human rights abuses.

00:43:09.000 Lowering, so let's take a look at what Joe Biden, his plan is.

00:43:12.000 There's two big things.

00:43:13.000 He wants to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, and he wants to raise corporate taxes by about 10%.

00:43:18.000 If you go to a corporation, a manufacturer, say someone who makes socks, and say, we're going to raise your taxes by 10%, you've got to pay all of your employees 30% more.

00:43:27.000 When was the last time minimum wage went up?

00:43:28.000 you're squeezing me dry I can't afford how am I supposed to do this I don't worry don't worry

00:43:32.000 we're gonna have a free trade agreement and you're gonna be able to run your factory in China that's

00:43:37.000 what that's what that's what Obama was doing and that's and it worked so you when was the last

00:43:42.000 time minimum wage went up very very long time ago so so should it be increased no even though it

00:43:49.000 hasn't been adjusted for inflation or anything yes so the there's there's a bunch of problems

00:43:53.000 outside of what the minute about outside of the minimum wage and the minimum wage is not a solution

00:43:57.000 to the problem if so you need to sit down and talk with like a small business accountant that's

00:44:03.000 exactly what I did to better understand the issue I I talked to an accountant who represented like 300 small businesses and I said, we have a problem because people don't have money to spend.

00:44:13.000 Right?

00:44:13.000 If they can't spend money, businesses can't take in money and they can't pay taxes and they can't hire people.

00:44:17.000 So we want the machine to flow.

00:44:19.000 And he, and yes, completely correct.

00:44:22.000 However, A hard increase of 30% or so, because this is what we saw in New Jersey.

00:44:28.000 He said, here's what happens.

00:44:29.000 He's like, I just lost 30% of my clients.

00:44:31.000 They shut down their businesses.

00:44:32.000 Why?

00:44:33.000 These people who run these small businesses, they're corporations too, and they have like 10 employees, but the owners aren't rich by any stretch of the imagination.

00:44:40.000 They might be paying their employees 10 bucks an hour because all they can pay.

00:44:44.000 And then the guy who runs the business is only getting $50,000 a year.

00:44:47.000 He's making a modest salary for him and his family.

00:44:49.000 Well, then all of a sudden they come in and say, increase your wages, your costs by 30% plus employment taxes.

00:44:57.000 And all of a sudden this guy's only been making $20,000 a year and he says, I can't afford that.

00:45:00.000 I'd rather just go work as a manager at corporate for Walmart or something.

00:45:05.000 That has the impact, specifically in New Jersey when they passed this law, is when I went to an accountant to ask him, you know, tell me what's going on.

00:45:12.000 He said he lost a ton of business, accounts were cancelled and businesses just shut overnight.

00:45:16.000 You can't force the economy to just increase.

00:45:20.000 There's one good thing about the minimum wage, and it's about exports. 0.95

00:45:23.000 If everybody in the U.S.

00:45:24.000 is getting $15 an hour, that means everybody can afford something made in China better. 0.93

00:45:29.000 And that's been one of the biggest strategies of Joe Biden.

00:45:32.000 If we increase the minimum wage, increase corporate taxes, we'll have all our factories go to China, because Joe Biden and Obama were very much in favor of these free trade agreements, notably the TPP, and now the new agreement that they've recently negotiated without us.

00:45:46.000 Joe Biden's gonna get us in that day one.

00:45:48.000 We're going to lose our jobs here.

00:45:50.000 But the good thing is it will make it so that somebody who works at McDonald's who makes 15 bucks an hour can more easily afford the iPhone made by the slaves in China. 1.00

00:45:59.000 See, I think that's horrifying and ultimately it's a downward trajectory where we lose all of our jobs.

00:46:05.000 And then eventually America just sustains itself off of printing petrodollars.

00:46:09.000 And that can only work so long as we're blowing other people up and threatening them that if they disagree with our Say, building an oil pipeline or natural gas pipeline through Syria, then we arm the rebels in Syria to destroy the government and wipe out whole cities.

00:46:22.000 Which is basically what happened.

00:46:24.000 Right, right, right.

00:46:24.000 But, I mean, I don't think that, like, all the corporations would go to China.

00:46:29.000 No, the manufacturing ones, the ones that could.

00:46:32.000 Maybe.

00:46:32.000 So Trump's... Do you know that, just out of curiosity, for the Joe Biden $15 minimum wage, do you know if that's just across the board or does that only apply to certain corporations?

00:46:40.000 Nationwide.

00:46:41.000 Oh, I don't know for sure, and to be honest, I don't think he would do it.

00:46:44.000 I think he would fail, and he would try.

00:46:46.000 What we should do instead is give employees a percentage of corporate profit.

00:46:50.000 That way they only get extra money if the corporation... That's Bernie Sanders' policy.

00:46:53.000 Yeah, that's worker co-op stuff, right?

00:46:56.000 That way it wouldn't extort the business.

00:46:58.000 It wouldn't run them out of business because they're already making the money.

00:47:00.000 I completely disagree.

00:47:01.000 Isn't that market socialism?

00:47:04.000 Is that what it is?

00:47:04.000 That's Bernie's platform.

00:47:06.000 That's like worker co-op stuff, right?

00:47:07.000 Where everybody works and makes... It's a completely, completely bad idea.

00:47:10.000 But keep it... You'd have to do it in some sort of scalar form.

00:47:13.000 I am not educated in that.

00:47:14.000 I'm not about to support or deny it.

00:47:15.000 Do you know why the farms failed in these socialist revolutions and these communist revolutions?

00:47:20.000 Depends on the revolution.

00:47:21.000 Well, like, basically every time... In the Chinese one, it's because they made a bunch of scientists go do the farming. 1.00

00:47:25.000 A bunch of artists.

00:47:26.000 People that didn't know how to farm.

00:47:27.000 Exactly.

00:47:28.000 And they killed birds.

00:47:29.000 And they killed birds.

00:47:30.000 That was funny.

00:47:31.000 And they told everyone to, like, melt down their tools or whatever.

00:47:34.000 Like, this is a bunch of weird, weird stuff.

00:47:36.000 When you take a bunch of people who don't know how to do something and then give them control over a system and they can't do it, it fails.

00:47:44.000 We saw that in Zimbabwe.

00:47:45.000 We saw that in China with the sparrows being killed out, wiping out an entire population, which led to famine.

00:47:50.000 How so?

00:47:50.000 Oh, he did!

00:47:51.000 John Bolton!

00:47:51.000 I mean how so Trump has put a lot of people in positions of power that are not preferably quality or not

00:47:57.000 Oh, he did. Thank you, Bob John Bolton Jared Kushner, I mean I was I don't know Jared Kushner

00:48:04.000 negotiated this historic peace deal So I was looking into a man and Jared Kushner and all that

00:48:08.000 kind of stuff. It's it's pretty corrosive It's his daughter's husband.

00:48:12.000 Donald Trump has literally, Donald Trump has actually used the establishment to line his own pockets.

00:48:18.000 How?

00:48:19.000 Well, for one, Donald Trump was, because of his position in government, he, well, first

00:48:24.000 of all, let me back up here.

00:48:26.000 When Donald Trump was facing critics and stuff, he said that, once I become president, I will

00:48:31.000 not do any more business dealings.

00:48:32.000 And he passed his business down to Eric and Don Jr.

00:48:38.000 Fast forward a little while later, and there is a complex, it's worth $33 million, and

00:48:43.000 it's a government subsidized complex, okay?

00:48:45.000 But the Trump, I guess Eric and Don Jr. technically, want to sell this, along with a bunch of other

00:48:51.000 real estate as well.

00:48:53.000 Well, it's a government subsidized complex, right?

00:48:56.000 So Donald Trump went over to his little buddy Ben Carson and had Ben Carson approve that

00:49:02.000 purchase.

00:49:03.000 So that's Donald Trump, or the Trump family, essentially, right there, making $33 million

00:49:09.000 for the company.

00:49:10.000 from selling a complex, a government subsidized complex, that he was only able to do because

00:49:15.000 of his position in government.

00:49:17.000 So that's really concerning.

00:49:19.000 I guess the question is, was the approval out of bounds or was the approval in bounds

00:49:24.000 but Trump was able to grease the wheels?

00:49:26.000 Was the request officially made?

00:49:28.000 I don't know all the details.

00:49:30.000 Is there like a document of Donald Trump saying?

00:49:33.000 I'll tell you straight up.

00:49:35.000 There was an advertisement for Trump properties on a State Department website that got like huge red flag and had to get pulled.

00:49:43.000 Donald Trump suggested using Trump Doral in Florida for what was it, the G7, I think?

00:49:47.000 And there was a huge backlash even among conservatives saying, you can't do it.

00:49:50.000 And he's like, but we're going to give the government a cheap rate.

00:49:52.000 And they're like, we don't care.

00:49:53.000 Donald Trump used Trump properties for Air Force personnel who are flying to Scotland and said, yeah, but we gave it to him at cost.

00:50:01.000 And there was still a big backlash, even from conservatives who are like, dude, you're still maintaining your business by doing this.

00:50:08.000 So Trump got reamed pretty hard for that.

00:50:11.000 Now, Joe Biden.

00:50:13.000 Joe Biden's son was flown on Air Force Two to China for a billion dollar private equity deal, where his family was given a five million dollar forgivable interest-free loan, and when Tony Bobulinski found out they took the money and we told him not to do it, he came out and blew the whistle.

00:50:26.000 And he said the Bidens are compromised.

00:50:28.000 Or you've got the Ukraine-Burisma deal, where Matt Taibbi, a liberal formerly of Rolling Stone, reported there were at least a dozen or more investigations for criminal activity into Burisma, where Joe Biden's son was working, and Biden personally flew out After their PR company reached out to the State Department saying, why are you investigating?

00:50:45.000 Stop this now.

00:50:46.000 Joe Biden goes out there and says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you ain't getting a billion dollars.

00:50:50.000 Quid pro quo.

00:50:51.000 I can't, I cannot, I'm sorry, I can't.

00:50:53.000 Those are facts.

00:50:54.000 I can't stand by while this is... Those are facts.

00:50:56.000 No, no, no.

00:50:56.000 What are you contesting?

00:50:57.000 This is complete misinformation.

00:50:58.000 No, it isn't.

00:50:58.000 Did you watch the video?

00:50:59.000 Donald, first of all, Hunter Biden did not earn $1.5 billion.

00:51:03.000 I didn't say he did.

00:51:04.000 Was it $1.5 million or $1.5 billion?

00:51:05.000 I didn't say he earned any money.

00:51:07.000 Did you not just say— I said he was flown in Air Force Two by Joe Biden to negotiate a private—a billion-dollar private equity deal in China.

00:51:14.000 That's a fact.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, now I read about that, and that's definitely not a good look for Hunter Biden, 100%.

00:51:18.000 Why was Joe Biden using government property to fly his son for private deals in China?

00:51:23.000 I don't know.

00:51:24.000 Whether they got the deal or not.

00:51:25.000 It was probably corrupt.

00:51:27.000 It was probably corrupt.

00:51:28.000 I'd say it was.

00:51:28.000 I think there's corruption.

00:51:29.000 Again, there's corruption on both sides here.

00:51:31.000 But if I'm forced to choose between Donald Trump— What's the misinformation?

00:51:34.000 Well, the misinformation here, I was referring to the—there's a lot of misinformation about the $1.5 million, but I know you didn't bring that up.

00:51:40.000 Billion.

00:51:41.000 $1.5 billion, which that was only like a goal.

00:51:43.000 They were trying to make $1.5 billion in capital.

00:51:47.000 Attempted murder.

00:51:48.000 Still a crime.

00:51:48.000 And then you said that they got a $5 million forgivable interest-free loan.

00:51:54.000 That I actually haven't heard about.

00:51:55.000 But Joe Biden did not get that special prosecutor fired.

00:51:58.000 You're wrong.

00:51:59.000 You're so wrong.

00:52:00.000 You are so out of your depth, bro.

00:52:01.000 Did you see the video of him talking about it?

00:52:06.000 Listen, it's my understanding that this prosecutor was fired for doing a poor job.

00:52:09.000 You're wrong.

00:52:11.000 Name the prosecutor. 0.90

00:52:12.000 I don't know.

00:52:13.000 Exactly.

00:52:13.000 Victor Shokin.

00:52:14.000 Can we find out?

00:52:16.000 Sure.

00:52:17.000 Well, we're not going to play the video of Joe Biden saying, but I'll break it down for you because Matt Taibbi is not a conservative.

00:52:24.000 The UK froze the assets of Mykola Zlochevsky.

00:52:28.000 He's the guy who founded Burisma.

00:52:29.000 So you don't have any idea what you're talking about right now.

00:52:32.000 Zlochevsky was under criminal investigation.

00:52:35.000 When Joe Biden intervened, there were at least a dozen investigations into him and this company.

00:52:40.000 Hunter Biden was put on the board for seemingly no reason, probably to garner influence.

00:52:44.000 When asked about it, Hunter Biden was asked, if you weren't Joe Biden's son, would you have gotten this job?

00:52:49.000 He says, probably not.

00:52:50.000 So even it's his acknowledgement, that's why they brought him on.

00:52:53.000 We also have the emails where, when he's doing his Chinese negotiations, they talk about the big guy, and that was confirmed by Tony Bobulinski.

00:52:58.000 I digress.

00:52:59.000 Viktor Shokin was the prosecutor who signed a sworn affidavit in court, in Ukraine, that said he was investigating, active investigations, and Joe Biden intervened and put pressure on him.

00:53:13.000 And he had a meeting with the president after the president was told, we're not going to get the billion dollars, and he said to him, you're being fired.

00:53:18.000 And that was it.

00:53:20.000 So when you have the PR company and these emails are publicly released, you should probably read them, where they're saying, why are we being investigated?

00:53:27.000 The vice president's son is on the board.

00:53:28.000 And then what was like a couple months later, Joe Biden flies out there and gets the prosecutor fired.

00:53:32.000 Here's the best part.

00:53:33.000 If you're saying the prosecutor was doing a bad job, my question is, how come the new prosecutor who came in cleared Barisma of all wrong, cleared Zelensky of all wrongdoing, allowing him to return to Ukraine after he was under criminal investigation.

00:53:45.000 And it's only after Donald Trump got in and started pressing things, he fled to Monaco.

00:53:48.000 So if you don't know any of this stuff, you can't just come out and say it's misinformation, because I've done so much reporting on this.

00:53:53.000 I just want to know more about whether Joe Biden actually played a role in getting the prosecutor fired.

00:53:57.000 Oh, OK.

00:53:58.000 Let's play the video.

00:53:59.000 I don't want to see the video.

00:53:59.000 I want to actually see an article about it.

00:54:01.000 Do you want to hear Joe Biden say I got him fired because they wanted a billion dollars and I held it over their head?

00:54:06.000 He literally did say it.

00:54:07.000 Do you think it's odd that Hunter Biden was getting paid tens of thousands of dollars in a position that everyone knew he shouldn't be in?

00:54:15.000 He never had any experience?

00:54:17.000 The board position?

00:54:20.000 I thought that he took an unpaid job with that.

00:54:22.000 No, he got paid tens of thousands of dollars.

00:54:25.000 He profited a lot from it.

00:54:26.000 And here's the thing, it's kind of like what I've already been saying, is I recognize that there's corruption on both sides.

00:54:32.000 It was to my understanding that Joe Biden didn't play a role in getting that prosecutor fired.

00:54:36.000 But if I'm wrong... Let's play the video.

00:54:38.000 All right, let's listen to the video.

00:54:39.000 I said, no, I said, I'm not going to... We're not going to give you the billion dollars.

00:54:44.000 They said, you have no authority.

00:54:45.000 You're not the president.

00:54:46.000 The president said, I said, call him.

00:54:49.000 I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.

00:54:52.000 I said, you're not getting a billion.

00:54:53.000 I'm going to be leaving here.

00:54:54.000 I think it was, what, six hours?

00:54:55.000 I looked.

00:54:56.000 I said, I'm leaving in six hours.

00:54:57.000 If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. 1.00

00:55:00.000 Oh, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Got fired. 1.00

00:55:04.000 And they put in place someone who was solid.

00:55:07.000 Someone who was solid, who cleared Zlochesky of all wrongdoing, and then after Trump got in, they reopened investigations and he fled to Monaco.

00:55:15.000 So it sounds like, based on the fact that the PR firm for Burisma was reaching out to the State Department, that Joe Biden admitted he used a billion dollars in guaranteed loans, something he's not allowed to do.

00:55:25.000 That's what they accuse Trump of doing.

00:55:26.000 He doesn't have the authority to do it, only Congress has the authority to do it.

00:55:29.000 Joe Biden illegally said, you're not getting a billion dollars unless a prosecutor gets fired.

00:55:34.000 Matt Taibbi.

00:55:35.000 You know who Matt Taibbi is?

00:55:36.000 Rolling Stone, liberal, hates Trump.

00:55:38.000 Wrote an article, he said, about how crazy it was that if you actually did any amount of basic journalism, you found a dozen or more active criminal investigations in this company.

00:55:48.000 In fact, I don't know.

00:55:50.000 There probably is.

00:55:51.000 If I could just really quickly, like I will 100% concede again that yes, there is corruption on both sides.

00:55:56.000 I hadn't seen that video before, so I will be 100% willing to look more into that.

00:56:00.000 Yeah, that's That's the video that I was asking specifically. Yeah. I'm

00:56:02.000 glad that you played that for me because I mean I'm always open to learning new information and

00:56:06.000 But also I've been wrong about plenty of other things before too. I'm not afraid to acknowledge it

00:56:12.000 Yeah, this is in the news also today as the Department of Justice just announced that they're investigating Hunter

00:56:17.000 Biden Specifically with his burisma ties and that's today. That's 1.00

00:56:21.000 today And there's also new emails showing that there's close to

00:56:28.000 $23,000 that were unreported income from burisma when it comes to Hunter Biden

00:56:34.000 So it was more than this is Yes, and this is important to understand here on the backdrop of the Attorney General resigning today since, of course, William Barr actually hid a lot of this information before this election and also made sure that the subpoenas surrounding this particular investigation weren't released after the election.

00:56:57.000 Now we're finding out some of these subpoenas.

00:56:59.000 And this could be one of the reasons why William Barr, the Attorney General, who said he saw the Epstein tapes that were supposedly deleted, resigned today.

00:57:07.000 Sorry, that's another side topic that I just barred up.

00:57:09.000 That is another side topic.

00:57:10.000 But this is important news because this broke today, and they're specifically looking at Burisma, so this could blow up in everyone's face very soon.

00:57:19.000 Let's pull up the story real quick.

00:57:20.000 It literally goes right back to what we were saying about the Dominion voting thing.

00:57:24.000 I've heard different information than what I was just told now, but I would be more than happy to see an investigation into this.

00:57:30.000 I don't want our politicians to be corrupt.

00:57:33.000 Unfortunately, they both are.

00:57:34.000 I mean, even like Jared Kushner.

00:57:37.000 I think it was in Saudi Arabia.

00:57:40.000 Yes, he negotiated better weapons deals for Saudi Arabia.

00:57:43.000 No, that's not even what I'm talking about.

00:57:44.000 I'm talking about another radical Islamic country.

00:57:48.000 I can't remember.

00:57:49.000 No, it was Qatar.

00:57:50.000 Um, and they said that Jared Kushner, allegedly they said that Jared Kushner was in his pocket.

00:57:56.000 So I think that there's a lot of corruption on both sides.

00:58:00.000 And I think that if anything, like I didn't vote for Biden cause I liked him.

00:58:04.000 Okay.

00:58:05.000 Not at all.

00:58:05.000 I don't, I don't like Biden, but I was kind of stuck between Biden or Trump.

00:58:10.000 And I felt like Biden in this instance was a little bit of a better option, especially as.

00:58:15.000 Just as a dad, there were a lot of things I was seeing with what Trump was saying that I just couldn't align with.

00:58:20.000 I mean, I know we talked about the flag-burning thing, but even Trump's, like, 1776 commission with, like, trying to explicitly teach children a biased, pro-American viewpoint.

00:58:34.000 Like, my daughter's almost two, and I don't want to think about it, but I know she's going off to school soon, right?

00:58:39.000 I don't want her going and being taught, like, a brainwashed, Like the 1619 Project, like they're teaching right now.

00:58:46.000 Well, hold on, hold on.

00:58:47.000 And this is something I want to know.

00:58:48.000 Is the 1619 Project being taught in schools?

00:58:50.000 Yes.

00:58:51.000 Is it a curriculum?

00:58:52.000 Yes, it is.

00:58:54.000 Really?

00:58:54.000 Because that is not what I saw when I read that.

00:58:57.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:58:57.000 Did you just hear the wind blowing? 0.71

00:58:59.000 That was crazy!

00:59:00.000 Was that outside?

00:59:01.000 Yeah!

00:59:02.000 What's going on tonight?

00:59:03.000 It's the dark winter.

00:59:04.000 The dark winter is coming.

00:59:06.000 1619 Project and Critical Race Theory.

00:59:08.000 Critical Race Theory, more importantly, is being taught as basic curriculum across the country.

00:59:12.000 If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the 1619 Project, although historically inaccurate and very stupid, I think that it's being taught in maybe some select schools, but it's not like a national curriculum, right? 0.80

00:59:22.000 I'm pretty sure it... It's a New York Times project. 0.91

00:59:27.000 Yeah, and schools are teaching it like crazy because these teachers, they hold this ideology.

00:59:31.000 That's like crazy?

00:59:33.000 Where?

00:59:33.000 Where is it happening here?

00:59:34.000 Well, you know, I follow James Lindsay for this stuff, to be honest.

00:59:38.000 I actually was unaware that the 1619 Project was being taught widespread in schools.

00:59:44.000 What is the gist of it?

00:59:46.000 The 1619?

00:59:46.000 It's a historically inaccurate account of basically America's founding, and they argue that America was founded on...

00:59:57.000 I don't even fully understand it either, because I just know it's stupid and inaccurate. 0.81

01:00:00.000 From Education Next, educators around the country are indeed teaching the 1619 Project. 0.95

01:00:05.000 What precisely students and other interested observers are learning is another question.

01:00:08.000 The 1619 Project is certainly educational, or at least instructive, but not only in the ways it was intended, and they're going to explain what it is.

01:00:15.000 In the classroom, Random House Children's Books announced plans to publish four 1619 Project books for young readers, one young adult, etc.

01:00:23.000 etc.

01:00:23.000 So, yes.

01:00:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:24.000 I mean, so that would definitely be a problem.

01:00:26.000 Would it be better that they learned, like, a very patriotic pro-America or a very anti-America?

01:00:31.000 It would be better for them to learn the truth about America and not have a biased, historically accurate account of how America got started, right?

01:00:40.000 Based on which author, which literature?

01:00:44.000 I don't know.

01:00:44.000 Do you know?

01:00:45.000 Well, so an example would be some might tell you, notably, like the New York Times, that America truly started in 1619, right?

01:00:51.000 That's their opinion.

01:00:52.000 I think even the author of the 16—or even one of the people on 1619 acknowledged that it wasn't really historically accurate.

01:00:57.000 Yeah, it's funny because only, like, way later, after, like, they started getting attacked relentlessly non-stop, but they won Pulitzers for it, so... This is just my problem, though, is see, this is Donald Trump trying to combat this 1619 project by doing something that I would argue is just as bad.

01:01:12.000 I don't want a biased... So what was his curriculum that he was gonna teach?

01:01:16.000 He was going to teach a pro-patriotic, which would be explicitly biased in favor of America.

01:01:22.000 That kind of a curriculum, like, that's brainwashing also, right?

01:01:26.000 Yeah.

01:01:26.000 We want to teach kids the truth.

01:01:28.000 And listen, here's something else.

01:01:30.000 I promise you, I know this sounds like it's unrelated, but it is.

01:01:34.000 One of the things I talk about a lot on my channel is the fat acceptance movement, which are the body positivity people, the people that are really fat that claim that, oh, just who cares about health?

01:01:42.000 Let's just love your body.

01:01:43.000 I've always argued that if you love your body, you would work to change your body and work to improve it.

01:01:47.000 And I think the exact same thing goes for the country.

01:01:50.000 As a dad, I want this country to be better.

01:01:52.000 I want this country to be better for my kids.

01:01:54.000 And I don't think that you can push for genuine and accurate change if you have a brainwashed interpretation of America.

01:02:04.000 Do you like Star Wars?

01:02:05.000 That goes for the 1619 Project as well.

01:02:07.000 Not really.

01:02:08.000 Yeah.

01:02:08.000 Of course.

01:02:08.000 Yeah.

01:02:08.000 It's alright.

01:02:08.000 Not really.

01:02:09.000 Did you watch the original?

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 What did you think of that with like Luke Skywalker and you know Tatooine and the Death Star?

01:02:14.000 Of course.

01:02:14.000 What do you think about it?

01:02:15.000 Yeah, it's alright.

01:02:16.000 Who do you think, do you like Luke Skywalker and the Jedi?

01:02:20.000 Yeah, sure.

01:02:21.000 Yeah? You think like you think what he did was cool?

01:02:23.000 I haven't watched that movie in a really long time.

01:02:25.000 And admittedly, I have not researched on my Star Wars before coming on this.

01:02:28.000 But like, you know, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, you know, they were cool, right?

01:02:32.000 They were heroes.

01:02:33.000 Yeah.

01:02:34.000 You think it's cool that some scraggly religious zealots from a desert planet took a cargo ship and blew up a military base? 1.00

01:02:41.000 That's Star Wars.

01:02:43.000 And that's not, like, that point is made by the left when they say people watch Star Wars and don't understand why they're cheering for it.

01:02:50.000 They're cheering for a religious faction from a desert planet taking a cargo ship and rebel fighter pilots and then blowing up a military base. 0.96

01:02:58.000 It's actually clerks, I think, you know, with the Kevin Smith film made a really good point.

01:03:03.000 They were contractors and janitors and like regular people just working on this base, had no idea what was going on.

01:03:09.000 Yeah, they all got killed.

01:03:14.000 Exactly.

01:03:15.000 You choose to work on a military base, so when Al-Qaeda blows it up, that's your own fault.

01:03:19.000 The point is, you talk about being pro, you know, Trump's pro-America view of the world.

01:03:25.000 And it's like, sure, you could argue that the Founding Fathers were insurrectionist terrorists who were just greedy slave owners and wanted to reject the crown because the crown wanted its cut.

01:03:35.000 And furthermore, the British were defending the seas for the American colonies.

01:03:39.000 The ingrates were angry over a tea tax because they didn't want to pay their fair share. 1.00

01:03:45.000 Well, I reckon— It's kind of ridiculous, right? 0.84

01:03:47.000 Yeah, of course. 0.91

01:03:47.000 And I'm not saying that that's the alternative to Donald Trump's approach. 0.91

01:03:52.000 What I'm arguing for is just a historically accurate interpretation.

01:03:55.000 Maybe that's what would have happened.

01:03:57.000 Of history.

01:03:58.000 Well, that's not.

01:03:59.000 And if that was how it was told, that wouldn't be historically accurate.

01:04:01.000 Well, that's based on, you know, people's interpretation, because you could interpret history in many different ways, but I agree with your point that our kind of higher learning institutions, our school institutions are corrupted, but I don't think it's because of Trump.

01:04:14.000 I think they've been like that for a very long time, especially since their institution under the Rockefeller policies that wanted to make good factory workers, and that's essentially what kind of school is in our modern day and age.

01:04:26.000 So, there's a couple things that come up to mind when you're talking about this.

01:04:30.000 One interesting one was the recent decision by Cornell University that recently decided that they're going to be making the vaccine mandatory, the COVID-19 vaccine mandatory, but only for white students.

01:04:44.000 I was wondering what your... Is that actually a true story?

01:04:47.000 Yes, yes.

01:04:48.000 Cornell vaccine mandate only applies to white students.

01:04:51.000 And the best part is... Hold on, hold on.

01:04:53.000 There's one more too.

01:04:53.000 In Oregon, they're doing grants for COVID that only go to black businesses.

01:04:57.000 So it's like... Yeah, so when you have institutions like that that are hired by, you know, the state money... Can I have a little more context on that Cornell?

01:05:05.000 I could send you the article if you want and we could look into it.

01:05:08.000 That sounds bizarre.

01:05:09.000 There's also another incident that I would love to get your kind of feedback on.

01:05:12.000 In New York City, we have the school superintendent literally arguing and trying to make it a mandate that if there's a poor white kid and a middle class or rich black kid, that school resources should predominantly go to the black kid, not to the poor white kid.

01:05:26.000 We got it.

01:05:26.000 From the College Fix, Cornell vaccine mandate only applies to white students, saying, Quote, we recognize that due to long-standing systemic racism and health inequities in this country, individuals from some marginalized communities may have concerns about needing to agree to such requirements.

01:05:40.000 For example, historically, the bodies of the black, indigenous, and people of color have been mistreated and used by people in power, sometimes for profit or medical gain.

01:05:49.000 It is understandable that the current compact requirement may feel suspect or even exploitative to some BIPOC members of the Cornell community.

01:05:56.000 Additionally, recent acts of violence against black people by law enforcement may contribute to feelings of distrust or powerlessness.

01:06:02.000 While the university strongly recommends that non-white students comply voluntarily because long-standing social inequities and health disparities have resulted in COVID-19 disproportionately affecting BIPOC individuals, they will be granted an exemption if they cite their racial identity.

01:06:17.000 I mean, that's that's definitely very bull. 0.98

01:06:20.000 That's definitely like some bullshit right there. 0.99

01:06:22.000 I think what they're doing is like, because systemic racism, for example, is 100% a real thing. 1.00

01:06:27.000 But that is probably the dumbest, most idiotic way imaginable. 0.99

01:06:33.000 But it's not, though, because you have, like, you do have your- Name me a good policy. 1.00

01:06:37.000 You have your- what do you mean?

01:06:38.000 Like, name a- if that's an example of, like, doing it wrong, what's an example of rectifying systemic racism correctly?

01:06:45.000 Sure, so in these, for example, majority black communities, where they are- have much more rates of poverty and higher rates of crime, obviously the reason for the high crime rate is because of poverty. 1.00

01:06:56.000 So, I would, like, I'm not a policy maker, but I would like to see more investment into those areas because if we were, for example, able to open up better businesses, give people more jobs, hire people, that's one, step one.

01:07:10.000 That's gentrification. 0.92

01:07:12.000 You're talking about sending in the white upper class to black neighborhoods to gentrify the neighborhood? 0.81

01:07:16.000 No.

01:07:16.000 To price them out?

01:07:17.000 You're a racist! 0.98

01:07:18.000 No, no, no, no, I'm not arguing for that at all. 0.99

01:07:19.000 No, I'm not.

01:07:20.000 No, what I'm arguing for is investing in that company.

01:07:23.000 Where does the money come from?

01:07:26.000 This is called gentrification.

01:07:28.000 Gentrification is when the city, when white people move in and then rent prices go up.

01:07:32.000 That's a simplification.

01:07:33.000 Gentrification.

01:07:34.000 If they come in and they start putting all this money into buildings and infrastructure, and then the property values start skyrocketing, these black families are going to get priced out, taxed out, and they're going to get kicked out. 0.99

01:07:42.000 That's not what I want to happen.

01:07:43.000 What I want to see happen is more business investments, specifically.

01:07:46.000 So let me ask you a question.

01:07:48.000 If more businesses start popping up in these neighborhoods, right?

01:07:51.000 Will property value go up?

01:07:53.000 You tell me.

01:07:54.000 Well, the answer is yes, of course.

01:07:56.000 More business means more taxes, means more commerce, more tax revenue, better streets, better buildings, better repairs, and tax goes up, right?

01:08:03.000 Right.

01:08:04.000 What do you think happens to these poor black families who now can't pay the higher tax rates because their property value went up?

01:08:08.000 Well, that's the problem right there.

01:08:09.000 See, I don't want these big companies to just come in, start opening up, and then raising the prices.

01:08:15.000 What I want is to see a proper investment into this area where not only is it just people coming along— Investment from who?

01:08:23.000 And to what?

01:08:24.000 Listen, listen, listen.

01:08:24.000 You understand what you're saying is extremely racist.

01:08:28.000 You're promoting the eviction of black families. 1.00

01:08:31.000 No, no, no. 0.99

01:08:31.000 What you're doing is you're trying to use this, like, liberal hypocrisy thing on me. 0.99

01:08:34.000 I know what you're trying to do here.

01:08:36.000 No, no, no.

01:08:36.000 What I'm telling you is what you're advocating for by the left is considered wrong.

01:08:42.000 I don't care what the left thinks.

01:08:44.000 I'm not a leftist.

01:08:45.000 I'm not on the left or the right.

01:08:46.000 I stand by my positions.

01:08:48.000 That's what I do.

01:08:49.000 That's not my policy.

01:08:49.000 When I'm telling you that you're proposing a policy to end systemic racism, you're not.

01:08:54.000 That's not my policy.

01:08:56.000 That's one option here.

01:08:58.000 So listen.

01:08:59.000 Another option would be we need to stop funding schools with the taxes collected in that neighborhood,

01:09:03.000 obviously, because that creates a vicious cycle where then you have poor people going 0.99

01:09:06.000 to shit schools and it repeats forever. 0.99

01:09:09.000 That's another example of what we can do to fix it. 0.99

01:09:11.000 But again, I'm not a policymaker and I recognize that what I've said about investing in those areas is a rather surface level and simplified version of what I think could help.

01:09:20.000 For me, I'm more interested in talking to people about systemic racism right now

01:09:24.000 because we first have to acknowledge that the problem even exists before we can go about

01:09:29.000 fixing the problem. How would you define systemic racism?

01:09:32.000 Well, I define systemic racism a little differently than I think a lot of people would. For me,

01:09:37.000 systemic racism would be, it's oftentimes like you can see it in history and then you

01:09:42.000 can see it today still.

01:09:44.000 So you can see where that racist policy was created, how it affected blacks, and how it's still affecting them today.

01:09:50.000 Or any other minority group.

01:09:51.000 Or any other minority group, sure.

01:09:52.000 Like, systemic racism majoritally...

01:09:57.000 Majorly?

01:09:59.000 Majorly affects black people for the most part, but yeah, other people can be victims of systemic racism too.

01:10:05.000 Does it?

01:10:06.000 Does it predominantly affect black families or black people?

01:10:09.000 Yeah, and that's because a lot of the reasons that black people are in the position they are today is, of course, because of historical racist policies from America.

01:10:17.000 Redlining is a perfect example.

01:10:19.000 And blockbusting.

01:10:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:20.000 I mean, there's plenty of them.

01:10:21.000 Even the war on drugs, right?

01:10:22.000 Which, I mean, Joe Biden further exacerbated with the crime bill.

01:10:25.000 Like, there's plenty of... CIA.

01:10:27.000 Luke, you know about CIA and crack, right?

01:10:29.000 Yeah.

01:10:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:30.000 Yeah.

01:10:31.000 There was also the crack versus cocaine thing.

01:10:34.000 Let me tell you, the modern left right now doesn't understand what systemic racism is, and neither does the right.

01:10:40.000 They think systemic means institutionalized.

01:10:42.000 And so it's really hard to have a conversation with people about systemic racism because they immediately think institutionalized.

01:10:48.000 Right.

01:10:48.000 So the response immediately is like, well, then tell me about an institution that's like, no, no, no, no.

01:10:51.000 I'm talking about systemic.

01:10:53.000 And they say, well, you mean historical.

01:10:54.000 I'm like, yes, that's what systemic meant.

01:10:56.000 The system created a problem.

01:10:59.000 We're not talking about the institution of policing or hospitals or schools.

01:11:02.000 We're talking about The easiest example I give to people is, because I did a documentary on this, Pruitt-Igoe Public Housing in St.

01:11:10.000 Louis, the St.

01:11:12.000 Louis County Racial Housing Covenants in the suburbs.

01:11:15.000 Most people don't realize that St.

01:11:16.000 Louis isn't one city.

01:11:17.000 When people say St.

01:11:18.000 Louis, they're referring to like 90 different cities.

01:11:20.000 All of these little tiny cities that surround it going westward that were formed because white people were fleeing the inner city due to increasing poverty and crime and because of racism.

01:11:31.000 They created new townships and then immediately enacted racial covenants.

01:11:34.000 So these are laws that are no longer legal.

01:11:37.000 But it basically created a system.

01:11:38.000 It created a two-tier, like, I'm oversimplifying things for sure, but you basically create two tracks where one is doing well and one is doing poorly.

01:11:46.000 You get rid of the laws that made this problem happen, like redlining or blockbusting, and now we're dealing with the generational after-effects of why these people are in poverty, why there's crime in their areas.

01:11:57.000 The problem is, we're now at a point now where after we've gotten rid of the racist laws, we had racist law, we had racial covenants, And now we have the modern left advocating for bringing back racial law. 0.97

01:12:10.000 And I'm like, well, that's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. 0.94

01:12:13.000 Like talking about policies directed towards different races or affirmative action-like policies. 1.00

01:12:18.000 You're just talking about creating more laws.

01:12:20.000 Look at it this way.

01:12:21.000 If you went back in time and said, we're going to create a law for white people to protect them, Then people would argue, but it's just a positive thing, it doesn't hurt them, it's, you know... Well, no, it's creating a disproportionate effect, which will result in one, you know, group of people doing better than the other, which will lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments, because you're essentially, you know, you can make the argument, but ultimately you have a two-track system. 0.58

01:12:39.000 Creates systemic racism.

01:12:40.000 Today they're saying basically the same thing, and if you look at like Ibram X. Kendi, his argument is that we need more discrimination.

01:12:49.000 That's what we need, more discrimination.

01:12:50.000 And that's like, okay, he would have fit in really, really well with the people in the 50s who wanted separate but equal.

01:12:56.000 That's basically what he's advocating for.

01:12:58.000 He says the solution to past discrimination is present discrimination.

01:13:02.000 I can't remember the exact quote, but it was something like that.

01:13:05.000 Present discrimination, what, towards white people?

01:13:07.000 No, towards everybody.

01:13:09.000 Oh, like he just wants to continue being- Yeah, so his idea is like, you know, I'm trying to steel man his argument that if you have people who are disproportionately affected by past, you know, historical precedent and laws, then we need to target different communities based on race and discriminate positively or negatively.

01:13:25.000 Meaning negative towards one group that's doing too well, like Asians for instance, and positive towards, say, Latinos who aren't doing as well.

01:13:31.000 Yeah, see, I would disagree with that entirely.

01:13:32.000 I don't think that we should be stifling one to try to bring them down.

01:13:36.000 I think what we should try to be doing is helping the communities that are where they are today because of American policies in the past get to where everyone else is. 0.97

01:13:45.000 I've never agreed with this idea of tearing one down to try to bring one up kind of crap. 0.98

01:13:51.000 I know that there's a lot of, like, lib cucks and people that advocate for crap like that. 0.92

01:13:55.000 Um, but no, I would never be in favor of anything. 0.70

01:13:57.000 Well, there's different issues to really kind of consider here because if you're going to, if you're going to try to help people who are hurt historically, you know, what about the Polish people who were subjugated by the Nazis and then the USSR?

01:14:09.000 Well, there's, there's, there's also, I mean, we can, We can go about, like, I think there are going to be different ways that we can address different kind of historical, like, oppressions.

01:14:18.000 But the main reason that I think it's so important that we focus on black people in America right now is because this is a really prevalent example of where a huge group of people are still being greatly, disproportionately affected by policies that although are no longer, like, on the books, the results of those policies still exist, right?

01:14:38.000 So the problem now is having done away with those laws, and with the passing of things like Loving v. Virginia, we've now created not just one community.

01:14:50.000 It's not just the black community anymore.

01:14:52.000 It is the poor neighborhoods, and I'm not saying, you know, not all black neighborhoods are poor.

01:14:57.000 If you look at where Obama was, you know, in Hyde Park, it's very well off.

01:15:00.000 So targeting it based on race is a mistake.

01:15:02.000 You don't, like, we don't want to, we don't think the Obama family needs help.

01:15:05.000 Certainly not.

01:15:06.000 They're some of the smartest and most accomplished people in the world.

01:15:09.000 Well, I do think I… So singling out race would be, you know…

01:15:12.000 Well, I mean, obviously it's not to say that all black people are living in poverty

01:15:15.000 and I wouldn't say that to fix systemic racism we have to… So the answer is class-based resolutions.

01:15:21.000 Well, I would argue that the reason, see, the reason that black people are in poverty 1.00

01:15:25.000 is because, specifically because, they are black. 0.97

01:15:30.000 Because they were discriminated against because of that.

01:15:33.000 That's a bold statement.

01:15:35.000 That's extremely dangerous to say.

01:15:37.000 Yes, black people were historically discriminated against and that's why they are today.

01:15:40.000 That's what we were just agreeing on. 0.50

01:15:42.000 I feel like I've had more than enough guests on this show who would completely disagree with you and are literally black. 0.71

01:15:48.000 I don't care what... I mean, that's identity politics.

01:15:50.000 I'm not concerned about what black people think. 0.59

01:15:52.000 I'm more worried about... You're not concerned with what black people think? 1.00

01:15:54.000 Here's a white guy saying you know what's right for their community and you don't care what they think?

01:15:58.000 No, not at all. 0.75

01:15:59.000 What I'm saying is that... And that they're all poor.

01:16:01.000 No.

01:16:02.000 Yo! 1.00

01:16:03.000 Did I say that all black people are poor? 1.00

01:16:05.000 Did I say that all black people are poor? 0.98

01:16:06.000 It was very generalized. 0.99

01:16:08.000 Did I say that all black people are poor? 0.90

01:16:09.000 No. 0.99

01:16:10.000 You said that the sole reason they're poor is because they're black. 0.97

01:16:13.000 No, I... 0.98

01:16:15.000 Oh, good one, Tim.

01:16:16.000 Isn't that what you said?

01:16:17.000 What did you say? 0.93

01:16:17.000 No, I said they are discriminated against for being black. 0.93

01:16:20.000 So it's based on race because they were discriminated against in the past because of their race, right? 0.89

01:16:26.000 Obviously, they're not poor because they're black. 0.95

01:16:28.000 Black people are disproportionately poor because black people were discriminated against in the past because of their race. 0.99

01:16:34.000 That's wrong. 0.99

01:16:35.000 You know why?

01:16:36.000 Why?

01:16:36.000 Because what about immigrants who came here like 10 years ago?

01:16:39.000 That's entirely different, actually.

01:16:41.000 Are you talking about Nigerians?

01:16:43.000 Haitians? 0.82

01:16:44.000 I mean, I'm not too familiar with Haitians, but I know Nigerians, for example, are cited a lot of the times as an example of, like, how can systemic racism exist?

01:16:51.000 No, I agree systemic racism exists.

01:16:54.000 I just think Well, why do you think?

01:16:55.000 shouldn't use race as the factor because you've got multi-generations of families that have

01:17:01.000 now existed outside of the confines of racial covenants and racial laws.

01:17:05.000 You have immigrants for generations who have come in and faced completely different circumstances.

01:17:09.000 And if individuals are racist, there's no real hard solution for that because, you know,

01:17:15.000 people still have some level of freedom to associate.

01:17:18.000 Now, I'm actually fairly liberal on a lot of issues, particularly, like, I think if you're operating a business in public, you have to serve the public within reason.

01:17:27.000 So, like, I actually agree that, you know, we should have laws saying, if you want to run a bakery and someone comes in and says, I require service, you give it to them.

01:17:34.000 Now, the specific example with the baker in Colorado was that he wouldn't write a message.

01:17:38.000 It's very different.

01:17:39.000 That I actually think he shouldn't have to do.

01:17:42.000 But if I own a shop, you shouldn't be able to say this particular group is barred from

01:17:45.000 entry.

01:17:46.000 That's wrong.

01:17:47.000 Sure.

01:17:48.000 Yeah.

01:17:49.000 So if we're dealing with a way to solve systemic racism, which exists, it's actually impossible

01:17:54.000 to solve by using racial law or saying we're going to give money to a community based on

01:18:00.000 Because you'll end up giving a Haitian immigrant, you know, and it's not the same circumstances. 0.90

01:18:05.000 I think that this is a bit of a misrepresentation.

01:18:07.000 And again, I understand that.

01:18:09.000 I'm not a policymaker here.

01:18:11.000 But no, I'm not saying we just go give money to black communities. 0.53

01:18:16.000 I'm saying we would invest in, yes, in those poor communities that oftentimes, unfortunately, tend to be black as well. 0.99

01:18:23.000 And the reason for that is because of historical inequality.

01:18:26.000 So I'm not saying that racial laws are the solution, but I'm saying that acknowledging that black people are where they are today, largely because they were discriminated against because of their race, that's just the fact of the matter.

01:18:36.000 It was, they got a bunch of the slaves. 0.67

01:18:38.000 It basically came from, they're discriminated against because they were like the descendants of slaves and didn't have any money coming out.

01:18:43.000 There was no historical wealth.

01:18:46.000 When we look at American history, we see a history of a lot of immigrants, of a lot of discrimination.

01:18:51.000 A lot of different groups are discriminated against.

01:18:53.000 But I particularly wanted to get your point on the New York City school superintendent saying, when there's school resources, it shouldn't go to the poor white kid.

01:19:01.000 It should go to the middle class and even upper class black kid. 1.00

01:19:04.000 That's dumb. 1.00

01:19:05.000 That's very dumb, obviously. 1.00

01:19:07.000 This is such a huge problem that the left does all the time, which is where we are criticizing systems and then they apply that to an individual, which is really, really a problem. 0.99

01:19:19.000 I mean, white privilege is a perfect example. 0.97

01:19:21.000 You can talk about, on a statistical level, white people might have some level of privilege over other groups, but if you then go up to one single white guy and be like, screw off, privileged white boy! 0.96

01:19:32.000 That's like a problem because you're supposed to be compassionate towards people and ruthless towards systems, right? 0.69

01:19:39.000 That's kind of like what I like to have.

01:19:41.000 The bigger problem I think with like the concept of white privilege is that it's actually majority privilege.

01:19:46.000 You know, like you personally would not succeed or survive at all in East Asia.

01:19:50.000 Oh, sure.

01:19:51.000 I mean, I do think that, yeah, it is partially majority privilege for sure.

01:19:54.000 It's like whichever group tends to have more access and more wealth and control of more systems, people tend to favor... So I'm just going to be straight up with people.

01:20:04.000 This is a fact.

01:20:05.000 They teach you this and interact with other groups and people who look differently, then there's going to be a bias and it's going to be harder for that person to succeed in that environment.

01:20:13.000 And especially if they're like a white person going to East Asia, like you can't even own property in some of these countries. 0.87

01:20:19.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:20:20.000 Yeah.

01:20:20.000 Well, I don't know if it's terrible.

01:20:21.000 I mean, you tell them that they'll tell you to get to go away and you can't do anything about it.

01:20:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:25.000 Yeah.

01:20:26.000 I mean, what's causing that?

01:20:27.000 Yeah, it's not my RV.

01:20:30.000 Another thing, but I have to say one of my favorite things is seeing manual labor, low paying job people being lectured by Hollywood billionaires about their privilege.

01:20:38.000 I think that's also another phase here that people need to realize there's a lot of establishment kind of corporatist language kind of pushed in this that As you could say, it's very virtual signaling.

01:20:48.000 Cringy, yeah.

01:20:49.000 It's very cringy, and I'm happy you could at least admit that, and we could have an honest dialogue and conversation.

01:20:54.000 Dude, you gotta remember, I used to be, like, the Rekt Feminist guy. 0.66

01:20:57.000 I'm not here to, like, be a libcock shiller. 0.96

01:20:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:01.000 I appreciate the conversation, because we could understand where you're coming from, and we could understand your point of view and perspective.

01:21:07.000 And it's not just, my party's always right, you know, you're willing to kind of also say... Not at all.

01:21:13.000 I would concede that easily.

01:21:14.000 Yeah, and I think that's critically important, and that's something that's especially missing in today's day and age of dialogue, which is all dominated by, I'm better than you.

01:21:23.000 It's either my side, this side.

01:21:24.000 Exactly.

01:21:25.000 And you know, that's another big thing that I was, that as I kind of found myself sort of Going away from the right that I really discovered is how harmful labels seem to be also I mean this idea that like oh I don't know if I can support this idea because that's a liberal idea or that's a right-wing idea I'm so sick and tired of that for now like I just like to look at ideas that I support or that I don't support Why I support them or why I don't and go with it that way I'm not concerned if it's generally a liberal thing or a right-wing thing and I think that that's I think that sort of like looking past labels is an important step in

01:21:59.000 Trying to find an agreement to privilege.

01:22:02.000 First of all, I would disagree with telling a poor white person they have white privilege to begin with.

01:22:05.000 Well, I would say that's a very kind of generalized kind of statement and it all depends on the circumstance, all depends on the situation, all depends also on the location that you're in.

01:22:14.000 Sure.

01:22:15.000 I mean, a good example would be that there was a study done several years ago now where they, I'm sure you've all heard of this study actually, where they sent out a bunch of job applications.

01:22:24.000 Um, some of them had like cliche white sounding names and then others had black sounding names.

01:22:29.000 They had the identical qualifications.

01:22:31.000 Okay.

01:22:32.000 The, the, um, the black names were far more likely to not get a callback compared to the white names.

01:22:41.000 So I think that's an example where maybe it's easier sometimes for white people to get a job simply because I have a standard white name.

01:22:47.000 And maybe that is majority privilege.

01:22:49.000 Maybe you can call it a majority privilege.

01:22:51.000 But that's still a privilege.

01:22:52.000 There's laws in California where your board members have to be a specific color ruling the other way. 0.99

01:22:57.000 There's a lot of quotas in government agencies that mandate you have a specific person of this ethnicity or this ideology or sex inside of your business.

01:23:07.000 So, I mean, that particular study I'm not aware of.

01:23:09.000 I would like to look into it and study it more.

01:23:12.000 But there's also the opposite happening, which needs to be called out as well.

01:23:16.000 I don't like quotas either.

01:23:17.000 I mean, I think that's a pretty generally bad idea to try.

01:23:20.000 And what you do is you don't get genuine push for diversity or genuine people that like appreciate having a diverse workplace.

01:23:26.000 Instead, you get people that are doing it just because they have to.

01:23:29.000 And it hurts everyone in the long run.

01:23:30.000 It hurts everyone in the long run.

01:23:31.000 And also, if I could just add really quickly, like there have also been studies that found that diversity does benefit the workforce and that when there's diversity in the workplace, like productivity is better, creativity is better, efficiency is better, all that.

01:23:45.000 So I agree that diversity makes the workplace better.

01:23:47.000 But I think when you're forcing that under like a quota, then yeah, you kind of fall back into that cringy corporate... Define diversity.

01:23:55.000 I mean, it would really depend, I guess, on the context.

01:23:58.000 It could be racial diversity.

01:24:01.000 It could be diversity between men and women, I guess.

01:24:05.000 I know that there were some kind of – was it the Grammys quota or something?

01:24:10.000 The general idea is that diversity of opinion will lead to better success because you're getting a wide range of options and then you work through to find the best one.

01:24:20.000 What's happened is that the left is kind of right when they say diversity, you know, strength.

01:24:26.000 It's like, yeah, but when your idea of diversity is ideological homogeneity and people just look different.

01:24:33.000 That's not actually diversity.

01:24:34.000 The original idea was that if you have someone from India and someone from the U.S.

01:24:38.000 collaborating on a project, they're going to have wildly different perspectives, which can actually result in finding a solution a singular ideological group could not discover.

01:24:47.000 Instead of actually saying, we want people of varying thoughts and opinions and backgrounds to come together, they're saying, so long as you all completely agree politically, And look different.

01:24:58.000 We've accomplished diversity, which of course is not.

01:25:00.000 You'll end up with a bunch of people who can't actually solve any problems because they all think the same thing.

01:25:04.000 Right.

01:25:05.000 And I mean, that's obviously that's that's obviously cringeworthy.

01:25:08.000 I'm all for diversity of thought as well as I'm all for diversity.

01:25:13.000 I mean, you'll hear a lot of conservatives like criticize multiculturalism, for example.

01:25:16.000 That's a pretty common buzzword I hear from a lot of people on the right.

01:25:19.000 But multiculturalism and diversity ultimately has only gone to better our country ultimately.

01:25:25.000 Define multiculturalism.

01:25:26.000 Uh, multiple different cultures.

01:25:29.000 So like, which cultures though?

01:25:33.000 I just, I know that generally speaking, like right now we are a multicultural country because we have plenty of different cultures in our country.

01:25:40.000 Um, and like, we're the world superpower.

01:25:42.000 We have subcultures, but you know, the problem right now is that there's actually, there's, there's two dominant cultures and it's resulting in people killing each other in the streets.

01:25:52.000 What do you mean?

01:25:53.000 Well, like Michael Reynolds shooting Aaron Danielson twice in the chest.

01:25:56.000 It's a cultural difference.

01:25:58.000 So when conservatives say multiculturalism, they're referring to more than one culture coexisting next to each other without an overarching parent culture guiding the actions of all the individuals within.

01:26:13.000 Oh, no.

01:26:14.000 So leftists usually think multiculturalism works, America is a good example. 1.00

01:26:19.000 If you're talking about say like Ukrainian village in Chicago, Little Italy, Chinatown 0.99

01:26:24.000 and things like that, what you're saying is that all of these different communities have

01:26:27.000 agreed to abide by American's cultures and norms.

01:26:30.000 Oh no, when did I say that?

01:26:33.000 I'm saying you, like the rhetorical you like.

01:26:35.000 When the left argues for multiculturalism, they're explaining that you've got America 0.93

01:26:39.000 as this big umbrella and a bunch of smaller cultures underneath it.

01:26:43.000 So if you come, it's like someone from China comes to the U.S.

01:26:46.000 and opens a restaurant and brings their family, they abide by American laws and American customs and free speech and courts and all those rules that don't exist in China.

01:26:54.000 It's one of the reasons many people want to come here.

01:26:56.000 What the right is saying is that if you have leftists, socialists, communists, SJW critical race theory, and you have it next to a different culture, which is libertarianism, individualism, etc., they clash, they fight, they rip each other apart.

01:27:10.000 In that sense, multiculturalism doesn't work.

01:27:13.000 In the sense of having a bunch of different immigrant communities all abiding by American law norms, multiculturalism does work.

01:27:20.000 Depends on how you define it.

01:27:22.000 But I think the general idea of multiculturalism, if you take the word at face value, that made you kind of switch over.

01:27:28.000 Yeah, I mean, it was definitely not like one thing.

01:27:32.000 Not at all.

01:27:32.000 It was a very long process, actually.

01:27:34.000 And it's funny, because I know you had Vaush on here a couple weeks ago, but he's actually a big part of this story.

01:27:40.000 So what happened was, after I found out that my then-girlfriend was pregnant, I went through a lot of personal issues and thought that I had made some mistakes

01:27:51.000 here and there.

01:27:52.000 Long story short, I turned out to be completely wrong about my initial

01:27:55.000 approach to like how I was handling this.

01:27:58.000 Sorry, we're just dealing with the... No, no, no, I just want to make sure I'm not going to...

01:28:01.000 Just pull it out.

01:28:04.000 It just, I was, I was, I thought this was like something like breaking up with my then

01:28:08.000 girlfriend at the time was something that I really did feel strongly about and I

01:28:11.000 thought it was the right decision after doing a lot of like thought into it

01:28:14.000 and this was something that I was really, really serious about and believed

01:28:18.000 really strongly and then it turned out to be catastrophically totally wrong.

01:28:23.000 And so I think that kind of set in motion this sort of subconscious, like, if I was so wrong about something I thought I was so right about, is there anything else like this in my life?

01:28:32.000 And it was around this time of, like, a lot of contemplating, right, when I was challenged to a debate by Vosh, none other than Vosh, right?

01:28:41.000 He and we had a long debate and obviously I think he beat me.

01:28:47.000 And he particularly provided some pretty good points on LGBT issues, which I know we're

01:28:51.000 not really going to talk about that today, but since that was something that I was so

01:28:54.000 notorious and like being against.

01:28:58.000 And that kind of further set in motion, I was like, wow, now not only am I kind of contemplating

01:29:02.000 my ideas, but now I'm being challenged and seeing a lot of data that seems like it's

01:29:07.000 pushing back against what I originally thought about some of these subjects.

01:29:10.000 So from there, I just went on to do my own research and kind of went through it.

01:29:14.000 And it wasn't until April of this year that I actually announced I'd left the right.

01:29:18.000 So a lot of people will say, oh, Hunter lost one debate with a fat communist and then became

01:29:23.000 a liberal.

01:29:24.000 That's not what happened.

01:29:25.000 So let's make sure it's, you know.

01:29:27.000 Earlier you talked about the importance of the traditional family.

01:29:31.000 That seems also in line with a lot of things that are happening in our society that's breaking down because if you look at the traditional family you could see it in decline.

01:29:40.000 A lot of people kind of point to it for a lot of the problems in our society.

01:29:43.000 Do you also see it the same way?

01:29:46.000 Or why do you have such a, you know, strong value and strong opinion on traditional families?

01:29:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're raising children, traditional families, or the nuclear family, meaning two parents raising the kid, I think that that is undisputed, that that's the best environment for the child.

01:30:01.000 So, for me, I support traditional households when you're raising kids, just because that is proven to be the best thing for the child right now.

01:30:10.000 But I wouldn't support traditional... I'm fine with people living their lives however they want.

01:30:16.000 I'm all about traditional family for myself, and I think that has a lot of benefits for raising kids, but I don't think that that should be prescribed on anyone else.

01:30:24.000 So if the traditional family is in decline or not, I'm not as concerned about that, because I like to assume... Now, I would want to know why it's declining, right?

01:30:35.000 But I like to assume that it's probably because of people choosing to either pursue different career paths or maybe more people are able to be gay or be bisexual or who knows.

01:30:45.000 I think there's a lot of different reasons there.

01:30:47.000 That's not particularly a concern of mine though.

01:30:50.000 As long as the reason behind it is good, I don't really have a problem with that.

01:30:55.000 Got it.

01:30:55.000 What do you read for news?

01:30:57.000 All over.

01:30:58.000 I read all over.

01:30:59.000 I don't have one source that I go to.

01:31:03.000 Usually what'll happen is I'll see something on Twitter and I'm like, I don't know about that.

01:31:07.000 And then I go and look into it from there.

01:31:09.000 Or if it's just a subject that I'm interested in, I'll Research it on and read from different sources

01:31:15.000 So I it's the it's the biggest Determining factor in your political alliance is what you

01:31:22.000 read for news the left overwhelmingly trusts mainstream news organizations

01:31:27.000 Even though they're caught endlessly lying and exaggerating and you know putting out garbage and the right completely 0.90

01:31:33.000 distrusts them So the right tends to go to either right right leaning

01:31:37.000 outlets or often to their own detriment Like fringe outlets that often has a bunch of bunk

01:31:42.000 information as well. So that It's like two sides of one coin, right?

01:31:45.000 It's like different ways to get a bad news diet.

01:31:48.000 Right, exactly.

01:31:50.000 But the interesting thing is...

01:31:52.000 There's one study I often cite all the time, it's on my Twitter somewhere.

01:31:57.000 Liberals, or the left, I hate calling them liberals because they're not liberal, but the left gets 95% of their news from mainstream or left-biased sources.

01:32:07.000 Moderates get 60% from left-biased sources and 30% from right-biased sources.

01:32:12.000 The right, it's inverted, 60% right, 30% left.

01:32:15.000 So conservatives know what the left is thinking, the left doesn't know what the right is thinking.

01:32:18.000 As evidenced, my favorite example is when the hashtag Proud Boys was taken over by the left, and it was a bunch of photos of gay men kissing. 0.55

01:32:28.000 And then they were like, take that Proud Boys, you know, calling them homophobes and stuff.

01:32:33.000 And then people started posting the photo of Gavin McInnes, the founder of the Proud Boys, making out with Milo Yiannopoulos.

01:32:37.000 Like, I don't think you guys know anything about this group.

01:32:40.000 And they clearly didn't.

01:32:41.000 So they're all doing these clapback snapbacks thinking they're owning the cons.

01:32:45.000 I don't really think that.

01:32:47.000 Or insert an item up somewhere, which we will mention on this show.

01:32:52.000 But another thing to really watch out if you're getting news from social media is the echo chambers that are naturally created there by the algorithms that literally give you what you want to read to keep you on their platform longer.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:33:04.000 And I do not get my news from social media.

01:33:06.000 I recognize, did you watch that Netflix documentary a little while back?

01:33:11.000 The Social Dilemma.

01:33:12.000 Yeah.

01:33:12.000 I didn't know yet.

01:33:13.000 It talks about how the algorithms on the social media platforms are designed to keep on feeding you the stuff that you're already like.

01:33:20.000 Yeah.

01:33:20.000 So yeah, you do get into an echo chamber.

01:33:22.000 So I don't get my news from social media.

01:33:24.000 What I mean is if I see something on social media, I never take it at face value.

01:33:28.000 What I usually like to do to form my opinion on something is I like to read about it from multiple different sources.

01:33:34.000 And I would prefer actually to read a far left biased source, a far right biased source, and then hopefully Somewhere a little more in the middle in the neutral So I mean that's obviously oversimplifying it.

01:33:45.000 Yeah, absolutely Well considering the power is going out.

01:33:48.000 I think we've had me a really great conversation So I want to keep going but let's jump over super chats And then we'll just you know carry on from there because we got it we have a lot Unfortunately due to the power outages we lost the first hour of super chats We'll have lost the lot that we lost the first 40 minutes kind of a bummer.

01:34:03.000 That is a bummer.

01:34:04.000 Yeah, I Should I read the really mean ones or should I just try and keep things constructive?

01:34:10.000 No, there's a lot of One Direction comments.

01:34:12.000 Don't read them.

01:34:13.000 Are there any ones towards me?

01:34:14.000 They're all mean towards you.

01:34:15.000 They're all mean towards me?

01:34:17.000 Some of them are okay, but that's the point, like, you know.

01:34:19.000 Alright, go ahead, hit me up, I can handle the hate.

01:34:21.000 Monolithic Etho says, Hunter is afraid to debate actual Justice Warrior.

01:34:25.000 See, I don't know if it's going to spark drama or something.

01:34:29.000 No, no, it's fine.

01:34:30.000 Don't worry about that.

01:34:31.000 We can go to the next one.

01:34:32.000 That is this one, you know what, I'll tell you, that's this one dude who has this small

01:34:37.000 little following that's made like 10 plus videos on me.

01:34:40.000 Oh, a fan.

01:34:41.000 Yeah, no, he's like, it's so creepy and annoying.

01:34:45.000 And then, and he's also been caught misrepresenting data multiple different times.

01:34:49.000 So I told him this, I said, yeah, I'm not really interested in debating you and you're super slippery and I've seen you lie about data multiple times.

01:34:55.000 And of course now, you know, it's actually because I'm too afraid.

01:34:58.000 So, continue.

01:34:59.000 Positive Gerald says, this kid gone learn today.

01:35:03.000 Perhaps.

01:35:04.000 Perhaps.

01:35:04.000 Nunya Beeswax says, America first is inevitable.

01:35:06.000 Okay.

01:35:07.000 Let's see.

01:35:09.000 John Schwalb says, Hunter has no idea how the adoption system is built.

01:35:13.000 The kids waiting for adoption are handled by the state.

01:35:16.000 Babies given to adoption agency have couples wait for a year till the baby becomes available.

01:35:21.000 You know, I've read a bit about that.

01:35:23.000 Like it's really hard.

01:35:24.000 There's like a long wait times and stuff like that.

01:35:25.000 Yeah, it's really challenging to adopt, but I don't see how that's an argument against gay people having the right to adopt, right?

01:35:30.000 I think we gotta get as many of these kids without parents to parents.

01:35:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:35.000 It's such a process.

01:35:36.000 That's why so many people go to Russia and China to adopt their children, which is a lot easier and a lot quicker than going through the process in the United States.

01:35:43.000 Which is a problem in and of itself.

01:35:45.000 So I'm gonna read this next super chat, but I wanna say first and foremost, we were discussing some things before the show, and I don't care about people's opinions.

01:35:54.000 If you tell me that you feel we should do this thing this way, I'll tell you why I disagree or whatever.

01:36:00.000 But you can't tell someone their opinion is wrong.

01:36:02.000 But Dane Miller says this dude left left the right and became extremely misinformed

01:36:07.000 Thank you Tim for showing him the way been watching for a long time now. Keep up the good work

01:36:11.000 Here's my first donation. Merry Christmas. So I think that There's one moment we've had where I think you were misinformed

01:36:18.000 That's the Hunter Biden stuff in Burisma.

01:36:20.000 And if you didn't know and you know, that's fine.

01:36:24.000 My opinion on whether or not Joe Biden is a bad person is my opinion.

01:36:27.000 The facts are he did these things.

01:36:29.000 My conclusion is after the fact.

01:36:31.000 Sure.

01:36:33.000 All right, let's see.

01:36:35.000 Tom says, Tim, did you hear about the 1.95 million Chinese Communist Party members embedded with Western governments or corporations that got exposed the other day?

01:36:42.000 I did hear about that, and I'm sort of waiting on it because two things.

01:36:48.000 Have you noticed the US media kind of not reporting on it?

01:36:52.000 Yeah, the British and Australian press are going crazy with this.

01:36:56.000 I covered this in my video.

01:36:57.000 This is amazing.

01:36:58.000 I mean, we're talking about thousands of communist Chinese party members infiltrating institutions of influence all over the world.

01:37:06.000 We're talking about individuals being a part of ... making the vaccine a hundred twenty-three communist ... Chinese party me party members were on this list that helped ... make the covid-19 vaccine and again when we look at China and ... their coronavirus records there's a lot to worry about ... here but when it comes to intellectual property being ... stolen when it comes to even these these Chinese agents ... working inside of the British consulate. 0.69

01:37:30.000 We're talking about huge implications that are extremely vast.

01:37:34.000 I'm gonna blow your mind right now.

01:37:36.000 Go ahead.

01:37:36.000 One of these Chinese communist agents was elected president.

01:37:41.000 I'm kidding.

01:37:41.000 Yeah, I don't think we have that.

01:37:43.000 We have... Joe Biden?

01:37:45.000 Come on, that was the joke.

01:37:46.000 I know, I know.

01:37:46.000 It's a dad joke, I guess.

01:37:49.000 It wasn't a dad joke.

01:37:51.000 I didn't say it was a good joke.

01:37:52.000 I was gonna say, I'm the dad joke.

01:37:54.000 We gotta run.

01:37:54.000 We gotta run, man.

01:37:55.000 We gotta run, dude!

01:37:58.000 Yep.

01:37:59.000 Go Ian!

01:37:59.000 Because we're gonna, our computer's gonna shut off.

01:38:01.000 This thing can only handle a few minutes of downtime.

01:38:04.000 We have like a ten minute buffer before it shuts off completely.

01:38:06.000 That's still pretty impressive.

01:38:07.000 We're still live though this time, because I switched to the satellite internet, so we're still streaming even though the power cut out.

01:38:13.000 You know what we're gonna have to do, because this is a new thing, but it is, the wind was so loud, we heard it in here, people are mentioning in super chat, the wind is probably causing surges, which is resulting in outages, so, welcome to living in the mountains.

01:38:25.000 Yeah.

01:38:25.000 So, yeah, you voted for communist Chinese Joe Biden.

01:38:30.000 You must be glad that... I'm just kidding.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, yeah, of course.

01:38:34.000 Let's see.

01:38:34.000 JR says, you made a really good point, Tim.

01:38:36.000 I own a small corporation.

01:38:37.000 I have six employees plus myself.

01:38:39.000 I pay them between $10 and $15 an hour.

01:38:39.000 I made $50K last year.

01:38:42.000 Yeah, that was, uh, that's the story.

01:38:45.000 I literally went to an accountant and I was like, what do you think about this?

01:38:49.000 How's this gonna impact you?

01:38:50.000 And the guy was a Democrat.

01:38:51.000 He was like, he's voted for Democrat.

01:38:53.000 He's New Jersey, votes for Democrats all the time.

01:38:54.000 And he was like, they just don't know what they're doing when they raise wages.

01:38:58.000 It's a shock to the system, like punching them in the gut.

01:39:01.000 We want wages to go up, but it feels like A seven-year-old solution.

01:39:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:07.000 Like, you're sitting there, and you're hanging out with your friends, and you're all drinking your beers, and you're talking about the economy, and your kid walks up, and he's seven years old, and then your kid stops, and he's listening, and you say, you know, one of the problems we have is we need more buying power for the working class and the lower class, but if they're only making ten bucks an hour, you know, we need to figure out how to get those wages up.

01:39:26.000 And he goes, the government should just make it so that you have to pay them more.

01:39:30.000 And you're like, okay, you can't just say that, like, the money doesn't exist.

01:39:35.000 If a small business doesn't have the money to pay people, they can't just do it.

01:39:39.000 But if the government says it, then they have to pay it.

01:39:41.000 It's like, okay, dude, you need to sit down.

01:39:43.000 I think there are benefits to increasing the minimum wage, as I mentioned earlier.

01:39:47.000 It means that if everyone in the US is getting paid the same, They can buy foreign goods because the labor in other countries doesn't change.

01:39:54.000 And if, say, the minimum wage increases in a big city, it's easier for the people in the big city to buy goods that are produced in lower cost-of-living areas.

01:40:03.000 So that's one benefit to a national minimum wage increase.

01:40:06.000 The problem is, it has to be done in such a way that doesn't just shock the system and result in businesses shutting down, which is, I think, what they will probably end up doing.

01:40:14.000 Well, I think there's a reason the super powerful corporations are always calling for more taxes and regulations.

01:40:20.000 It's because it's going to help them out in the long run.

01:40:23.000 Let's see.

01:40:23.000 Freestyle says, Tim Pool, China is not to be a part of the TPP.

01:40:26.000 Check what TPP is about.

01:40:27.000 Well, the TPP doesn't exist anymore.

01:40:29.000 It was crushed, and China was not a part of it. 0.60

01:40:31.000 But the new trade agreement in the Pacific does include China.

01:40:34.000 No.

01:40:34.000 The new trade agreement doesn't include China.

01:40:36.000 No, it doesn't.

01:40:36.000 No.

01:40:37.000 Are you sure?

01:40:37.000 Yeah.

01:40:37.000 Because we did a segment on this before.

01:40:39.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:40:39.000 No, they're not involved.

01:40:40.000 I'll look it up.

01:40:41.000 The one with, like, Canada and these other countries?

01:40:42.000 Yeah.

01:40:43.000 Well, that's good news, I guess.

01:40:45.000 Well, there you go.

01:40:47.000 Maybe that's what they're referring to, the new deal, the new trade agreement.

01:40:50.000 Well, there's probably going to be a lot of tariffs.

01:40:51.000 There's going to be probably less of a trade war between China and the United States with a Biden presidency, and I think we're going to see that.

01:40:58.000 As we heard from Di Dongsheng, it is tremendous good news that Trump lost, wink wink, as the audience laughs, because they're the ones who helped Hunter Biden become as wealthy as he is.

01:41:08.000 Got it?

01:41:08.000 The one that got created is called the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership.

01:41:13.000 This is the new one.

01:41:13.000 The new one.

01:41:14.000 China's not in it. 0.91

01:41:14.000 TPP 1.1 or TPP 11. 0.91

01:41:16.000 No, not China.

01:41:17.000 It's Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam.

01:41:25.000 MuteMapMaker says, I remember watching Hunter's channel back in 2017 and it scratched my quote, lib gets owned with facts and logic itch.

01:41:31.000 Now that I'm a bit older, like him, 24, I find myself caring less about social issues.

01:41:36.000 I just want the government off my porch.

01:41:38.000 Excuse me.

01:41:39.000 That's fine.

01:41:39.000 There you go.

01:41:40.000 Yeah.

01:41:40.000 I mean, I care about social issues, but I also don't want the government.

01:41:43.000 Gone false says, I really feel like Hunter is trolling.

01:41:46.000 When he was full on conservative, he didn't sound so flamboyant.

01:41:49.000 Maybe he is infiltrating the left or being a lefty, some sort of sickness or being a tribal or, or as being tribal contributes to this factor.

01:41:58.000 I don't know.

01:41:59.000 I could, can I just say that?

01:42:00.000 Like, I'm not sure how I've demonstrated being tribal.

01:42:03.000 Like I've, I've fully willing to criticize both sides here.

01:42:05.000 Uh, and I think that there are plenty of flaws on both sides.

01:42:08.000 Both sides ism now.

01:42:14.000 Oh man, there's a lot of funny comments but I can't read all of them.

01:42:17.000 Some of them are too mean to me.

01:42:19.000 They're all mean to you.

01:42:21.000 They're all too mean?

01:42:22.000 I wouldn't say they're all mean to you, but they're all like comments about you being misinformed or something.

01:42:26.000 Okay.

01:42:26.000 Well, that's fair.

01:42:27.000 Not all of them.

01:42:27.000 I'm reading, you know, I mean, I don't expect, I expect, you know, the majority.

01:42:31.000 I didn't expect a lot of your audience to, uh, to love me necessarily.

01:42:34.000 So yeah, I mean, to be critical of other people, man, but how hard is it to be deeply introspective about your own flaws?

01:42:41.000 How many people get online and make videos and talk about their own ignorance?

01:42:46.000 Very good point.

01:42:47.000 We have a tweet, a message from Iyahi Gusak, who's Ukrainian, who basically said the things I was saying about Ukraine were well known before it was reported in the U.S.

01:42:57.000 and that you were unaware.

01:43:00.000 Which thing?

01:43:01.000 The Hunter Biden, Joe Biden.

01:43:03.000 Yeah, like the viral video about Joe Biden saying, give me the billion dollars, otherwise you're fired.

01:43:07.000 That's the kind of issue with censorship.

01:43:10.000 Why didn't you see that video?

01:43:11.000 That video was crazy viral, but it's because there's censorship and suppression.

01:43:15.000 Echo chambers and algorithms.

01:43:16.000 Did it get suppressed, that video?

01:43:17.000 That video got false flags on Facebook and, like, missing context flags, which de-ranks it in the algorithm.

01:43:26.000 Simple answer, yes.

01:43:27.000 It wasn't outright banned, though.

01:43:29.000 And then, like, a lot of the fact-checks are like, well, there's a lot of context missing.

01:43:32.000 And they say things like, it was in line with U.S.

01:43:34.000 policy to have this man fired.

01:43:35.000 And it's like, and?

01:43:38.000 You know, it was, yeah, they emailed the State Department, then Joe Biden went and intervened.

01:43:41.000 It's funny how Joe Biden, as soon as Obama and Biden get into office, and Biden's put in charge of the operations in Iraq, His brother gets these contracts.

01:43:51.000 Politico wrote an article called Biden Inc.

01:43:54.000 that maps out Joe Biden's positions and how his family is just magically right there to get all of the benefits from it for 50 years.

01:44:02.000 It's a remarkable stuff.

01:44:03.000 So the way I put it is, yeah, I think Trump's played... I think Trump's played ignorantly dirty. 0.98

01:44:10.000 Like, you know, oh, I'm gonna give it that cost. 0.98

01:44:12.000 That's a great deal.

01:44:13.000 It's like, no, dude, that's still, you know, you're putting any money from the government to your companies with your control is a conflict of interest, and you can't do that.

01:44:19.000 I also think people like Trump, I said this before, have a kind of capitalist corruption to them.

01:44:24.000 I don't know if that's the right way to put it, but to put it simply, You guys ever see Back to School, I think that's the name of the movie, with Rodney Dangerfield?

01:44:30.000 Yeah.

01:44:31.000 There's that scene where he's in the college, and the professor's like, you know, giving a lecture on how to make widgets or whatever, and then he's like, this is all wrong!

01:44:39.000 And he goes on and explains how you actually run a business, because he's like this rich guy who went to college, and he's talking about, you gotta save a couple bucks to grease the wheels of the inspector who's gonna come in, basically breaking down the dirty things these businesses do to make a ton of money.

01:44:50.000 Along the lines of Trump lining his own pockets with his political savvy, is him running his own personal Twitter account.

01:44:57.000 He doesn't use the POTUS account.

01:44:59.000 No, that's a free speech issue.

01:45:01.000 Okay, but he's also, as soon as he's not president, he now has 80 million followers.

01:45:05.000 He'll be banned outright.

01:45:07.000 Because of his time spent in politics, he's enriched his own personal fame.

01:45:11.000 And so is Obama, and so is every president.

01:45:14.000 Obama used the POTUS account.

01:45:16.000 He didn't create a personal... I think that everyone who's in public office, though, obviously gets more famous.

01:45:22.000 You could argue that AOC inflated her fame as well. 1.00

01:45:25.000 She has a personal account.

01:45:26.000 But I don't think that Donald Trump— Yeah, AOC is her personal account.

01:45:29.000 Yeah, Donald Trump gaining fame— That's what she uses. 1.00

01:45:31.000 —from the Twitter account, I don't think is— But building—that's an actual business tool.

01:45:34.000 Like, building that as an asset is kind of like, should politicians be building their assets like— Well, you want to make an argument about politicians shouldn't be allowed to make any money outside of public pay, and their pay should be tied to the median income in this country.

01:45:47.000 I'll have a conversation with you about that.

01:45:49.000 Or tied to a public— account of some sort.

01:45:52.000 No, no, no, I'm not worried about that.

01:45:53.000 Not a personal account.

01:45:53.000 You know what I like?

01:45:54.000 I like if Congress got paid the median salary of the United States.

01:45:58.000 And if there was ever a period in which there was wide-scale, like, government shutdown,

01:46:02.000 then they shut themselves down too.

01:46:03.000 If the government gets shut down, they don't get paid either.

01:46:05.000 In order to raise their salary, they have to raise the median salary of the United States.

01:46:09.000 I'm not literally advocating for this because there's actually arguments for why we should

01:46:12.000 pay politicians ridiculous sums of money.

01:46:15.000 Because we don't want them to be incentivized to do things outside.

01:46:18.000 If, like, we told a politician, after you retire, you're guaranteed, like, a ridiculous sum of money, they're gonna be like, why would I risk losing this?

01:46:25.000 They won't be going to Raytheon or Monsanto.

01:46:27.000 Right, exactly.

01:46:27.000 I don't know if that's necessarily true though.

01:46:29.000 It's just there's some arguments.

01:46:31.000 One of the arguments is tie their salaries to the median salary of the United States and they'll work really hard to get that median salary up and they'll be advocating for analysis and is it up now?

01:46:41.000 Is it up now?

01:46:41.000 You want to raise.

01:46:42.000 Average worker salaries have to be up.

01:46:44.000 But I don't even know if that's a good idea, because then they'll just be like, I don't care if I get paid or not.

01:46:49.000 You'll only get millionaires and billionaires who are actually in office then, the people who don't care about the money.

01:46:54.000 So I think that was something Andrew Yang brought up, that if we give politicians a ridiculous sum of money, you'll have middle class people be like, that's a good job, and I wouldn't want to risk it.

01:47:03.000 And then you'll actually have an incentive for people to want to stay there.

01:47:06.000 It's an argument people don't understand about non-profits too.

01:47:09.000 People complain that non-profit CEOs get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:47:14.000 Well, sometimes millions.

01:47:15.000 They have to.

01:47:16.000 If a non-profit is... They're still a business.

01:47:18.000 If they're not competitive, they're not going to get good CEOs.

01:47:21.000 And if it's a non-profit that's got like, you know, 3,000 employees, you've got a massive infrastructure.

01:47:25.000 You're going to need to pay top dollar for a good CEO.

01:47:28.000 Granted, most of these non-profits I've worked at, I think they're all scams.

01:47:31.000 That's just me.

01:47:32.000 Most of charities are.

01:47:33.000 Yep.

01:47:35.000 China Crypto says, Tim, this guy has no idea how economics works, nor has he any idea of how the world works. 0.99

01:47:42.000 Insane and insanely dumb, super low IQ people being KOLs is one of the reasons why social media is making the average IQ of the mass lower. 0.98

01:47:49.000 Now, I just want to mention, if you're saying you left the right and you're coming on my show, you know, I apologize if people are going to be ragging on you. 1.00

01:47:58.000 You know, my little motto is the guy you love to hate.

01:48:01.000 So that's everywhere I go, I get hate.

01:48:03.000 That's nothing I can't handle here.

01:48:05.000 But also, I think it's a little funny when people say, like, you're a low IQ, but then, like, don't provide any counterarguments.

01:48:11.000 Yeah, I don't like just ad hominems.

01:48:12.000 Yeah.

01:48:13.000 Uh, Incendiate Media says, Hunter is the classic example of left-winger who simply thought he was right-wing because the left told him he was.

01:48:19.000 You can be a bigot on the left.

01:48:20.000 Literally every left country has been genocidal.

01:48:22.000 Yeah, no, that's just bull.

01:48:24.000 I don't know.

01:48:25.000 If you're advocating for the traditional family, I would say... Well, no, because I'm not a lefty.

01:48:29.000 I have some positions that are in line with the right wing.

01:48:31.000 Because, like, I would argue that I'm more pro-life, too, for example.

01:48:35.000 Although the way to solve that, some people say I'm still technically pro-choice, I guess.

01:48:39.000 But, I mean, yeah, no, I go after both sides.

01:48:44.000 There's a lot of... A lot of people are commenting on me going off on the Zelensky thing, the Ukraine thing.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, I would say that I definitely need to do a little more research into that, but I feel like that's literally the only little scuffle we had.

01:48:56.000 But you see, you walked into this one because you called it misinformation.

01:49:00.000 You're right.

01:49:00.000 And when I said you were wrong, you kept saying no.

01:49:02.000 Well, I had heard completely the contrary to the... I had heard that... Listen, I'm not able to fact check this either, so I want to look this up myself as well.

01:49:13.000 I heard the video.

01:49:14.000 I know you said other people are saying it's missing context.

01:49:17.000 I'd like to know what that context is.

01:49:18.000 The context is that it was in line with U.S.

01:49:22.000 policy that Victor Shokin be removed from his post as prosecutor in, I think it was Prosecutor General actually, in Ukraine because he was viewed to be corrupt.

01:49:32.000 I mean, yeah, however, it's definitely something I'll look into for sure.

01:49:34.000 You know, look, if Barack Obama and Joe Biden are doing crooked things to benefit themselves or Obama turns a blind eye, they can just say, yeah, it was in line with policy because Biden is the vice president and he's doing it.

01:49:48.000 They froze this guy's assets and then eventually they unfroze him.

01:49:53.000 So if anything, what Joe Biden did was make sure this guy had a free couple of years with no heat on his back.

01:49:59.000 But then when Trump got in, this guy fled to Monaco.

01:50:01.000 They think Monaco.

01:50:02.000 But yeah, I mean, the simple, like, I don't even understand how we get to that point with Burisma and stuff.

01:50:09.000 It's just like, Joe Biden's son got a job on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.

01:50:13.000 Like, man, if people knew the context around this.

01:50:16.000 So, wow.

01:50:17.000 You know what Gazprom is?

01:50:20.000 It's like there's so much going on to where if you knew about the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, the Obama funding, the rebels in Syria, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline funding rebels in Syria, no-fly zones over Syria, targeting Russia, the conflict in Libya, the natural gas monopoly out of Gazprom, you know, all of this stuff ties together.

01:50:39.000 It sounds like Hunter Biden was placed there when you put all these pieces together.

01:50:44.000 Now, I can't assert that.

01:50:45.000 I'm just saying that to me sounds like a possibility.

01:50:49.000 They needed assets in Ukrainian natural gas and energy because they were working on this plan to subvert Russia's monopoly.

01:50:56.000 So when Michael Flynn, and I learned this from Luke, essentially exposed that Obama was arming rebels, that's why they accused him of working with the Russians.

01:51:04.000 Because they're like, why is he doing this?

01:51:05.000 It's Russian.

01:51:06.000 Syria only refused to allow us to build the pipeline because they said Russia told them not to let us do it.

01:51:11.000 Then they wanted to subvert our attempt at building a pipeline.

01:51:14.000 Then you get this energy company in Ukraine, which is in the key position to be the company distributing the gas into Europe once they shut down the Russian monopoly.

01:51:24.000 And it's like, there's Joe Biden's son, ready for that sweet, sweet skrill as soon as that pipeline's finished.

01:51:29.000 And there was a big revolution in Ukraine to try to decouple Ukraine from Russia and make it more favorable towards Europe and the European Union.

01:51:37.000 And it caused a separatist movement which led to what some called a civil war briefly and I was there when it started.

01:51:42.000 They exploited some corruption that was happening between the Russians and the Ukrainians and they replaced it with new corruption that's happening right now between Europeans and Americans and Ukraine right now.

01:51:51.000 And when you go to Ukraine, I mean, Those people are getting exploited and robbed left and right by just so much corruption that it's absolutely mind-boggling to see it happen there to the extent that it does.

01:52:05.000 It's interesting.

01:52:06.000 One way to look at it is European countries are being strangled when it comes to natural gas, and they need these resources.

01:52:13.000 They need to have more access to energy.

01:52:16.000 So the US is desperately trying to assist its allies in getting energy there, and these people and these different families are set to make a ton of cash off of it.

01:52:27.000 I truly think Donald Trump is outside the system, anti-establishment.

01:52:31.000 I don't think he's the most selfless person in the world.

01:52:34.000 I think his family is going to benefit greatly in some capacities.

01:52:37.000 But I do think Trump's net worth has dropped dramatically.

01:52:39.000 I think, you know, I think several hundred million dollars since he became president.

01:52:43.000 So if I ultimately had to make a choice between corrupt 47-year Democrat politician responsible for most of the, or I should say, some of the racist laws the left has been complaining about, whose brother and son have somehow gotten rich, perfectly in line with Joe Biden's, like, oversight, and then I look at Donald Trump, who's only been in office for now just under four years and lost net worth to a significant degree, I'm gonna have to go with the Trump guy.

01:53:08.000 Especially when he's trying to end the wars and Joe Biden was part of the administration that, like, created tons more.

01:53:13.000 But also very interestingly, Trump was being investigated almost the entire time that he was in office.

01:53:19.000 There was a whole Mueller investigation going through every little thing he did.

01:53:23.000 And I remember listening to NPR just yesterday and they were talking about, well, of course we're going to have to get all the attorney generals, we're going to charge Trump with so many different charges, and then one of the legal experts like, well, he's been under complete investigation for a Russian collusion and they went through everything and they didn't really find that much.

01:53:41.000 And comparatively, if you look at institutionalized politicians that have been there for 50 years, like Joe Biden, there's a lot more corruption, a lot more wheeling and dealing than there is with Donald Trump, who just kind of came into this swamp.

01:53:54.000 I think it's all swamp monsters, as far as I can see.

01:53:57.000 Swamp monsters all the way down.

01:53:58.000 But Trump's trying to end the wars.

01:54:01.000 So it's like I'm on board with that.

01:54:02.000 I just I just see Trump, I guess, giving the tax cuts to the corporations and the way he's sort of benefit.

01:54:08.000 What's wrong with giving tax cuts to corporations?

01:54:10.000 Well, because it hasn't done anything to help.

01:54:12.000 What do you mean to help?

01:54:13.000 Like corporations, like only a small percentage are massive multinationals.

01:54:16.000 Well, like Trump's clearly not in favor of Amazon and like Facebook.

01:54:21.000 Sure, but by giving tax cuts to these corporations, it didn't do what it was supposed to do.

01:54:25.000 And I mean, we Americans- It wasn't supposed to do.

01:54:27.000 It was supposed to bring back more companies, more corporations back from overseas.

01:54:32.000 It was either that or it was to encourage, I think it was probably both, to bring companies from overseas and to encourage more people to open their businesses here in America.

01:54:41.000 With the tariffs and the tax cuts, Ford brought back $3 billion into Michigan.

01:54:45.000 I just know that overall it really didn't do what it was intended to do and now us American taxpayers are going to be the ones to foot the bill.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, there's tons of deficit spending.

01:54:54.000 Trump did campaign on lowering the deficit and the debt.

01:54:57.000 That did not happen at all.

01:54:59.000 Money printer go brrr!

01:55:00.000 He's not anti-war either, man.

01:55:02.000 This expanded drone war is super concerning.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, but you're talking about a long time ago.

01:55:06.000 I'm talking about a secret drone war.

01:55:08.000 Luke, can you tell me about how he's made it so that he doesn't have to reveal who he's drone bombing now?

01:55:11.000 Well, we don't know the full extent of it because, again, we don't have the record and the record-keeping was cancelled by him.

01:55:18.000 We knew under Barack Obama how many drones were sent out under Donald Trump.

01:55:22.000 We don't know.

01:55:23.000 No new wars.

01:55:25.000 That drone strike's a big problem.

01:55:27.000 Well, Vietnam wasn't a war.

01:55:28.000 I do think that no new wars is a bit of a low bar to set.

01:55:32.000 However, I can still say that's scary.

01:55:34.000 It's scary that it's true, right?

01:55:35.000 No, he expanded the secret of drone war.

01:55:37.000 He expanded the drone war campaign.

01:55:40.000 That's a war.

01:55:40.000 I think we're going to find that out soon.

01:55:43.000 Donald Trump was engaging in, I would say, well I don't want to say substantially, but I think a significant number more drone strikes than Obama was.

01:55:51.000 That was early on. 0.97

01:55:52.000 And Trump did probably the stupidest thing I think anybody could do in bringing on John Bolton. 0.99

01:55:57.000 That guy, John Bolton was like, this time next year with his bushy mustache, we're gonna be celebrating in Tehran! 0.99

01:56:03.000 It's like, wow, first of all, if you really wanted to declare war on Iran, you wouldn't go and announce we're going to be invaded in your city in a year.

01:56:10.000 Second of all, Iran, people don't realize this too.

01:56:14.000 Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan.

01:56:16.000 It is not some, you know, it is a developed, powerful country with military resources.

01:56:22.000 And I believe one of the key assets of Iran is their anti-aircraft capabilities, which makes it very difficult for the U.S. 0.94

01:56:28.000 because we rely on air superiority.

01:56:30.000 So, take a look at the military bases that we've been building, and it's like, perfectly set up around Iran.

01:56:35.000 So then Trump decides to bring on the one guy who wants to snap his fingers and make it all worse.

01:56:40.000 Not to mention, you know, a lot of conservatives are cheering about, you know, the strikes targeting the nuclear scientists and Soleimani and stuff, and it's like, look, I'm not going to pretend to have access to classified information, but I'm definitely anti-escalation of conflict and war, so I'm never going to say that's a good thing.

01:56:56.000 However, Iran has been terrorizing people in, you know, the Persian Gulf. 0.96

01:57:00.000 It's just the CIA installed the Shah. 0.74

01:57:03.000 1979, right?

01:57:04.000 Yeah, they overthrew the democratic people of Iran and installed this theocracy, and now they're trying to blame the theocracy.

01:57:12.000 And armed them.

01:57:12.000 You have to understand when Iraq and Iran was fighting, the United States military was arming both sides.

01:57:19.000 And with the latest Iraq war, it has empowered Iran geopolitically because Iraq used to be its main threat, its main enemy. 0.85

01:57:26.000 They got rid of that.

01:57:27.000 The sphere of influence of Iran spread because of the first, because of the latest Iraq war, which is another contributing factor to understand here.

01:57:35.000 The Shah was the democratically elected president and then they installed Ayatollah Khomeini. 0.63

01:57:39.000 Is that what happened?

01:57:40.000 Yes.

01:57:41.000 That's insane.

01:57:42.000 Has that been publicly disclosed?

01:57:45.000 Well, before that happened, Iran was kind of a civilized Western favorite kind of country where there wasn't any burqa mandates, there wasn't any Islamic law, there wasn't any Sharia law.

01:57:59.000 People were able to live like they were able to live in Europe.

01:58:02.000 Interesting.

01:58:03.000 It used to be the left that was anti-Deep State, and it was like, you know, I think the Nation.com, like the lefty publication, and people like Glenn Greenwald were like, the Deep State, the intelligence agencies, that's why they loved Snowden, that's why they loved Assange.

01:58:13.000 fingerprints of the quote deep state Interesting it used to be the left that was anti deep state

01:58:20.000 and it was like, you know I think the nation calm with lefty publication and people

01:58:24.000 like Glenn Greenwald were like the deep state intelligence agencies

01:58:27.000 That's why they loved snow. That's why they loved Assange now. It's like

01:58:31.000 The left is pro deep state basically It went from the Deep State is a conspiracy to, thank God the Deep State has stopped Trump.

01:58:39.000 Remember that article?

01:58:39.000 Well, they're cheering on John Bolton.

01:58:41.000 I remember seeing a whole bunch of Democrats and liberals on Twitter like, yes, John Bolton, he's going to expose the corruption and take down Donald Trump.

01:58:47.000 I'm like, do you know who John Bolton is and his long track record of just murder?

01:58:53.000 Like, John Bolton is like, what was the movie where the guy rides the nuclear bomb down?

01:58:58.000 Captain America?

01:58:59.000 No, no.

01:58:59.000 You know what I'm talking about, right?

01:59:01.000 Yeah, that old movie.

01:59:02.000 I forget what it's called.

01:59:04.000 Dr. Strangelove.

01:59:05.000 Dr. Strangelove, yeah.

01:59:06.000 John Bolton is the guy who's gonna ride the bomb all the way down, like, yahoo!

01:59:09.000 Right into Iran, like, cheering and yelling for it. 1.00

01:59:12.000 Very happy.

01:59:14.000 Roadworthy Inc.

01:59:15.000 says, Wow, Tim, I have to say I'm a little disappointed.

01:59:17.000 You say you only have relevant guests, but then bring this clueless kid on.

01:59:20.000 Weakest guest possible, especially following Alex Jones.

01:59:23.000 Well, I will say, you get to follow Alex Jones.

01:59:25.000 But I will rebut saying, I didn't say we... Well, if I did say we only have relevant guests, then I'll concede the error.

01:59:32.000 What I mean to say is, we typically tend to try and make sure guests are particularly relevant.

01:59:37.000 The reason Hunter is on, for one, is because someone reached out to me and they were like, yo, you know Hunter, right?

01:59:41.000 And I'm like, yeah.

01:59:42.000 And they're like, you should have him on.

01:59:42.000 I was like, yeah, we'll look into it.

01:59:44.000 And then it turns out you're super close and it was like really easy.

01:59:47.000 But I also want to stress, we've had probably like, what, 10 people on this show who are like, I used to be on the left and then I left.

01:59:54.000 And we've not had one person who's like, I used to be on the right and then I left.

01:59:58.000 And so I was like, oh, this actually doesn't make a lot of sense.

01:59:59.000 So, uh, that being said, I think I know why people are saying this and.

02:00:04.000 Y'all gotta calm down.

02:00:06.000 I know why they're saying that.

02:00:07.000 Why?

02:00:08.000 I've seen some stuff on Twitter.

02:00:09.000 I know what's going on.

02:00:10.000 Well, there are people who want particular guests to come on the show.

02:00:15.000 So, the power went out again.

02:00:17.000 It's gotta be the wind.

02:00:19.000 This thing's getting worse and worse every time the power goes out.

02:00:22.000 Because, like, we're running all of this stuff on one emergency backup battery.

02:00:26.000 Should we have a second or third one up here?

02:00:28.000 We do.

02:00:28.000 It's split between two different loads.

02:00:30.000 Got it.

02:00:30.000 So you're hearing different beeping because they're both beeping at the same time.

02:00:33.000 But I think we need more perspectives, more opinions.

02:00:35.000 I think we need to talk to each other more than ever.

02:00:37.000 And I thank you for coming here and being able to share your point of view and your perspective and your opinions that we would never understand if it wasn't for you coming here.

02:00:46.000 Well, thanks, man.

02:00:47.000 I really appreciate that.

02:00:48.000 For sure.

02:00:49.000 One person commented that they think the only reason you've changed your opinion on social issues is because you have a big channel and you're willing to shave off a certain number of supporters if it means you don't get banned.

02:00:59.000 Okay.

02:01:00.000 Yeah.

02:01:00.000 I mean, that's a very, very common argument that people make against me.

02:01:03.000 Um, but that's, I don't know, like how to rebut, rebut that.

02:01:07.000 Like, it's just, it's just not true.

02:01:10.000 Um, people, well, you know, my YouTube channel was banned temporarily.

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:13.000 I remember that.

02:01:14.000 I remember that.

02:01:14.000 I think I tweeted about it.

02:01:15.000 Yeah.

02:01:15.000 Um, didn't you speak at like a mythicist thing too?

02:01:18.000 Yeah.

02:01:18.000 I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:19.000 Like I, I did a lot of stuff on that kind of, and, and did you speak at my event in Philly?

02:01:25.000 Were you at the Philly one?

02:01:27.000 The Philly one was put on by me in partnership with the Mythicist guys.

02:01:31.000 At the Philly Casino.

02:01:32.000 Yeah, I was at the Casino one.

02:01:33.000 Oh wow.

02:01:34.000 I saw you walk by and I was like, yo, it's Tim.

02:01:37.000 We didn't meet then, that's funny.

02:01:38.000 Yeah, that's cool.

02:01:38.000 But I've completely forgot my train of thought now.

02:01:41.000 I don't know.

02:01:42.000 Oh well.

02:01:43.000 I love how there's a combination between people saying this is the worst Timcast or the best.

02:01:47.000 Is that what they're saying?

02:01:48.000 I think the people really love when I got angry about the Zlochevsky stuff and I like getting very specific. 0.99

02:01:53.000 People are like, take a clip of that and post it.

02:01:55.000 It's like, yeah.

02:01:56.000 But then other people are like, this is boring. 1.00

02:01:58.000 You suck. 1.00

02:01:59.000 Okay. 1.00

02:01:59.000 Well, that's how it's, you know, it's, it's how it always goes. 1.00

02:02:02.000 Make everyone happy.

02:02:03.000 Exactly.

02:02:05.000 Rob Gratz says, Tim, I'm becoming an architect and I can speak on plans to truly fix these neighborhoods through investment and pathways to ownership within the community to help redlined areas.

02:02:12.000 Please let me come talk.

02:02:14.000 Well, send us an email, spintheufo at gmail.

02:02:16.000 That's still our email.

02:02:17.000 You can have them send it to me, too.

02:02:19.000 What's your email?

02:02:20.000 Lydia at timcast.com.

02:02:21.000 There you go.

02:02:22.000 I'm happy to share that.

02:02:23.000 All right, let's see.

02:02:25.000 You know, honestly, I would have liked to go on a lot longer, but considering the power keeps shutting off, I think... That's like the eighth time, I think.

02:02:31.000 Yeah, seriously.

02:02:32.000 And you can't keep flipping the breakers.

02:02:34.000 It's really, really bad.

02:02:36.000 We unplugged everything.

02:02:37.000 It was snowing today for the first time in the year.

02:02:40.000 Makes me think we've got to get solar.

02:02:41.000 We've got to prioritize it.

02:02:43.000 Well, this is a breaker issue, specifically here.

02:02:45.000 With this kind of power outages, it's impossible.

02:02:48.000 Yep.

02:02:49.000 It's so stressful.

02:02:49.000 Well, thanks for running, Ian.

02:02:51.000 I will run again!

02:02:52.000 Thank you, Ian.

02:02:53.000 You're welcome, Hunter.

02:02:54.000 Your sacrifice means a lot.

02:02:54.000 It's two flights of stairs.

02:02:56.000 Yeah.

02:02:56.000 It's like... It's a lot of action.

02:02:58.000 If it goes out again, you guys can send me to go flip the breakers.

02:03:01.000 Okay.

02:03:01.000 We'll send you next time.

02:03:01.000 We'll go together.

02:03:02.000 Alright, so we'll do a couple more of these Super Chats.

02:03:04.000 Uh, let's see.

02:03:05.000 Oh, someone... Oh, I just lost it.

02:03:06.000 That was a really good one.

02:03:07.000 I have to find it.

02:03:08.000 Do it by memory.

02:03:09.000 No, it's gone.

02:03:10.000 That's unfortunate.

02:03:11.000 Now I want to know what the really good one was.

02:03:13.000 I am a gorilla.

02:03:16.000 Ishmael.

02:03:17.000 Gabriel Logan says Tim forearms huge.

02:03:21.000 No, I think it's just a camera thing.

02:03:22.000 Yeah, it's perspective.

02:03:23.000 Perspective.

02:03:24.000 And you accused me of going on that adult website.

02:03:28.000 Oh my gosh, Luke. 0.86

02:03:29.000 Shout out to YouPorn.

02:03:30.000 Are we really bringing that up?

02:03:31.000 Yeah, apparently.

02:03:31.000 Is it Pornhub or YouPorn?

02:03:32.000 Alright, let's see.

02:03:33.000 Outlaw Bear says this is the best TimCast IRL ever because he's taking an uninformed normie and breaking him down the news guard and breaking him down the news guard and breaking him down with news guard in real time.

02:03:44.000 Hunter was out of his league tonight like Hunter B in China. 0.95

02:03:48.000 Ha ha ha.

02:03:50.000 I don't know.

02:03:51.000 I also think, too, like you do cultural commentary, right?

02:03:53.000 Yeah, I do a lot more social stuff.

02:03:54.000 Yeah, coming into like a hard political space is not advantageous.

02:03:58.000 And I will admit that, yeah, a lot of the topics we talked about today, I wasn't like the Hunter Biden thing is a perfect example.

02:04:05.000 Stuff I'm not particularly educated in as opposed to a lot more of the social issues.

02:04:09.000 Kenneth Ramey says, I was raised in a home where my parents were gay.

02:04:12.000 What people fail to see from a child's point of view.

02:04:15.000 I grew up keeping friends away because I didn't want them knowing.

02:04:18.000 I'm not anti-LGBTQ, but kids do see things differently.

02:04:21.000 That was your point, actually.

02:04:22.000 Social stigma.

02:04:23.000 Yeah, and I would argue that social stigma needs to change, not the gay couples. 0.99

02:04:27.000 I think it is changing.

02:04:29.000 Oh yeah, it absolutely is.

02:04:30.000 I mean, acceptance of gay people is steadily going up.

02:04:33.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:04:34.000 Jamie McCarthy says, does Biden end up impeached due to Hunter investigation?

02:04:38.000 You may have spoken to this, but I just tuned in.

02:04:41.000 Um, maybe that's the plan.

02:04:43.000 Maybe they say, oh no, you know, he's got to go.

02:04:45.000 And then he, he, he says, okay, fine.

02:04:47.000 This has become too much.

02:04:48.000 I'm resigning.

02:04:48.000 And then Kamala becomes president.

02:04:50.000 And then he gets pardoned.

02:04:52.000 Yeah.

02:04:53.000 Or he'll just die from COVID, guys.

02:04:54.000 That's possible, too.

02:04:55.000 Yikes.

02:04:55.000 All right.

02:04:57.000 Let's see here.

02:04:57.000 We got a big one.

02:04:58.000 What's this?

02:04:59.000 Brian Murdoch says, I'm a tax lawyer at PWC.

02:05:02.000 Trump did not write the tax reform.

02:05:04.000 Tax lawyers did, and the reform repatriated trillions of dollars that was trapped in Irish and Luxe tax havens.

02:05:10.000 It lowered taxes for individuals and corps alike.

02:05:12.000 Read about GILTI and the toll change.

02:05:15.000 Love y'all.

02:05:16.000 Interesting.

02:05:16.000 There you go.

02:05:17.000 Very cool.

02:05:17.000 Thanks, dude.

02:05:20.000 Let's see.

02:05:21.000 Wait, what?

02:05:24.000 I don't know what that was.

02:05:25.000 Okay, let's do, uh, let's do one more super chat.

02:05:28.000 Let's do a couple.

02:05:30.000 Layla says, really like this guest, Tim.

02:05:31.000 I agree with you, Hunter, on quite a bit, but disagree on most of these issues.

02:05:34.000 Appreciate you coming on.

02:05:35.000 Peace.

02:05:36.000 See, there you go.

02:05:38.000 Salty Tamale says, honestly, Hunter wasn't a narcissist like Vosh. 1.00

02:05:44.000 Oh, wow.

02:05:44.000 Demon Rush says, this guy, the guy you love to hate.

02:05:47.000 Very humble, Hunter.

02:05:48.000 Thank you.

02:05:48.000 Tim, your show is awesome.

02:05:49.000 Moved away from Chicago recently after 19 years of growing up there.

02:05:52.000 It's painful walking away from the city, but it's changed so much.

02:05:56.000 A guy named Tim, great name, says, this is my first Super Chat, and it's to WhiteKnightForHunter.

02:06:01.000 He's a good kid and open-minded.

02:06:03.000 If he's so close, bring him on more.

02:06:05.000 Yeah, we absolutely could.

02:06:07.000 Well, I think considering the power's gonna go out soon again, we made it two hours.

02:06:11.000 The power went out right before we started.

02:06:13.000 It's gotta be the high winds somehow, I guess, because this is not normal.

02:06:16.000 We do the show all the time.

02:06:17.000 When the power went out, did we lose the stream?

02:06:21.000 We'll get it sorted, we'll call an electrician ASAP, but I think we'll be fine by tomorrow.

02:06:29.000 I think someone might be hogging the circuit somewhere else, too, because we unplugged everything, it's still going down.

02:06:34.000 You know what that means, Tim?

02:06:35.000 You're going to have to have me on again.

02:06:37.000 Yeah.

02:06:37.000 Like a rematch.

02:06:38.000 A rematch.

02:06:39.000 A rematch.

02:06:40.000 Well, I think, you know, on cultural issues, it's kind of just like, uh, when it comes to cultural opinions, like I agree, I disagree.

02:06:46.000 Well then, you know, it's like a cultural issue.

02:06:47.000 Yeah, the Zlochevsky thing is super niche.

02:06:49.000 I would venture to wage that 99.999% of Americans have never heard of Zlochevsky.

02:06:55.000 I've read all the affidavits.

02:06:57.000 And your audience has heard about it intensely.

02:06:59.000 I've read four years of news from all of the mainstream outlets to Ukrainian outlets to even Russian attempts at propaganda and the sworn affidavits.

02:07:11.000 There was one period where they were trying to get Biden named as a wanted felon and a court issued a ruling.

02:07:17.000 There was an official ruling from a court in Ukraine that said Ukrainians did interfere in the 2016 election to hurt Donald Trump.

02:07:24.000 That was the New York Times reporting that.

02:07:25.000 So all that stuff happened.

02:07:26.000 Anyway, not to rehash that.

02:07:29.000 How about, Hunter, you want to give a shout out to your YouTube channel or anything like that for people who did like you?

02:07:34.000 Yeah, sure.

02:07:34.000 For the couple people here that did like me, I appreciate it.

02:07:38.000 Yeah, you can follow me just on HunterAvalon is my YouTube channel.

02:07:41.000 It's the same username pretty much on every social media platform, too.

02:07:44.000 Easy enough, right on.

02:07:45.000 You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Parler at TimCast.

02:07:48.000 You can check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.

02:07:53.000 We are live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.

02:07:55.000 Smash that like button.

02:07:56.000 It really, really does help.

02:07:58.000 And give us a good review on iTunes or Spotify.

02:08:01.000 You know, we do really well on iTunes.

02:08:02.000 We're actually one of the top global podcasts, but on Spotify for some reason, not a whole

02:08:06.000 lot of traction.

02:08:07.000 I don't understand why.

02:08:08.000 But if you guys do want to listen on Spotify, we're there.

02:08:10.000 And check us out.

02:08:11.000 Luke, do you want to give a shout out?

02:08:13.000 My YouTube channel is We Are Change.

02:08:15.000 And before Ian graciously brings this up...

02:08:18.000 Oh, you know I've been...

02:08:19.000 If you want to purchase any of the clothing that I usually wear on this show, you can on teesprings.com forward slash stores forward slash WeAreChange, and that goes to supporting me.

02:08:30.000 So thank you.

02:08:30.000 We're going to have merch very, very soon.

02:08:32.000 We're getting our website done.

02:08:33.000 It's going to be VIP content.

02:08:34.000 We're going to have stuff for the vlog.

02:08:35.000 We're going to have bonus segments with guests.

02:08:38.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

02:08:39.000 And that's going to be for members.

02:08:40.000 That's coming soon, too.

02:08:42.000 Ian, you wanna- I got a little bit of special merch I'll be teasing in the near future as well.

02:08:46.000 I'm not gonna tell you what it is yet.

02:08:47.000 We gotta get a shirt with Ian's face on it.

02:08:48.000 Definitely.

02:08:49.000 Luke, I love the Santa hat.

02:08:51.000 Thank you.

02:08:52.000 It's like a five-year-old Santa hat.

02:08:54.000 I think it turned you blue.

02:08:55.000 Yeah, it did turn you blue.

02:08:56.000 I saw a We Are Change video earlier and you had the Santa hat on.

02:08:58.000 I was excited like a little kid.

02:09:00.000 Five years.

02:09:01.000 Every December I wear it.

02:09:02.000 Ooh, I like it.

02:09:04.000 He does.

02:09:04.000 Do you wear it like when you sleep tail and stuff?

02:09:06.000 No, no.

02:09:07.000 I'm not that committed to it. 0.90

02:09:07.000 Super filthy. 0.90

02:09:08.000 Can I ask you a quick question before we go?

02:09:09.000 Do you know what the question is?

02:09:10.000 Do you go to sleep in your beanie?

02:09:12.000 Yes.

02:09:12.000 That was the question.

02:09:13.000 No, of course not.

02:09:15.000 When you came here, was I wearing a beanie?

02:09:16.000 No.

02:09:17.000 That's right.

02:09:17.000 I was actually a little surprised to be honest.

02:09:19.000 Like, who is this?

02:09:20.000 I was like, uh, do I know you?

02:09:22.000 People, it's actually really funny.

02:09:24.000 We had a guest come over once.

02:09:25.000 I'm not going to say who it was.

02:09:26.000 And when I skate, I don't wear, if I'm filming and skating, I'll wear a beanie just to like, you know, but if I'm just like skating, exercising, sometimes I'll wear even shorts, but I'll usually wear just like some ratty clothes I'm going to tear up and I'll wear a sweatband.

02:09:38.000 Somebody came in, and it was the guest for the show, and I walked up.

02:09:41.000 I was like, hey, how's it going?

02:09:42.000 And they're like, hey, hey.

02:09:43.000 And then I was like, nice to meet you.

02:09:44.000 And they're like, oh.

02:09:45.000 And I'm like, did you not recognize me?

02:09:47.000 And he was like, oh, oh, oh.

02:09:48.000 Yeah, I'm not going to say who that was, though, but it was really funny.

02:09:51.000 It was at the other house.

02:09:52.000 Yeah.

02:09:53.000 People didn't recognize me.

02:09:55.000 It was like, whoa, I didn't realize.

02:09:57.000 Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:09:58.000 Don't forget to follow at Sour Patch Lids as well, because she's over there pushing all the buttons and twisting knobs. 1.00

02:10:03.000 Yeah, twisting the knobs and pushing the buttons and sometimes typing.

02:10:07.000 We will be back tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:10:10.000 live.

02:10:10.000 And again, smash the like button on your way out.

02:10:13.000 Thanks so much for the super chats.

02:10:14.000 We will see you all tomorrow at 8 p.m.

02:10:17.000 All right.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 15, 2020

Timcast IRL - Report Says Dominion Machines Flipped Votes, Bill Bar RESIGNS, w- Hunter Avallone

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