In this episode of We Are Change, we have a live stream with special guest Luke Rutkowski, host of the "We Are Change" YouTube channel. We talk about the firing of Bill Barr, the release of a new report from the Allied Security Group, and much, much more.
00:02:07.000And it wasn't until later on, as I got a little older, that I started to get a lot more disaffected with my experiences with the right.
00:02:14.000And then it wasn't until April this year when I decided to formally announce that I had left the right, and I now consider myself more of a centrist or center-left.
00:02:23.000Primarily because, yeah, I find myself disagreeing with the right wing on social issues a lot also, just more and more.
00:02:29.000We have had so many people on the show who are, like, left the left.
00:03:35.000And let me just read you one quote from Section B, Subsection 2, saying, We conclude that Dominion Voting Systems is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.
00:03:51.000The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors.
00:03:55.000The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication.
00:03:58.000The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail.
00:04:03.000This leads to voter or election fraud.
00:04:07.000Based on our study, we conclude that the Dominion voting system should not be used in Michigan.
00:04:12.000We further conclude the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.
00:04:20.000My name is Russell James Ramsland, Jr., and I'm a resident of Dallas County, Texas.
00:04:23.000I hold an MBA from Harvard University and a political science degree from Duke University.
00:04:27.000I have worked with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, among other organizations, and have run businesses all over the world, many of which are highly technical in nature.
00:04:38.000I have served on technical government panels.
00:04:41.000So this has been one of the biggest stories of the day.
00:04:44.000Interestingly, if you Google search this and you try and look it up, you're not going to find the report.
00:04:50.000You're going to find a lot of articles saying, unproven, baseless, Trump supporters and things like that.
00:04:57.000Which is very strange framing for a news organization because even if you don't agree with this guy or you think he's a hack or you think he's just trying to help Trump, you'd simply say an independent audit, you know, as the result of a lawsuit from Republicans made these claims.
00:05:35.000Yeah, I mean, I don't agree that we should just be attacking someone's credentials.
00:05:40.000I don't think that that's necessarily an argument against the report.
00:05:44.000I do, however, think that this guy's credentials are important when we talk about the likelihood of bias in his report.
00:05:51.000So, because he has been a Republican lawmaker, I think, or I know for a fact that he's donated a couple thousand dollars to different GOP people or whatnot, he was hired by the Trump admin, and it's very frequent for consultants to come to the conclusions that support the lawsuit.
00:06:12.000I don't think that that necessarily means that this report should be completely ignored, but I do think that if anything what we should take that we should look at this report with a grain of salt and take that maybe as an indication that we need a better, more thorough, and more independent audit of these machines.
00:06:28.000I would 100% be in support of an independent audit of Dominion voting machines, because since I don't really think voter fraud is, you know, a big issue, I would be more than happy to see that audited and hopefully the findings would, you know, That's the right answer!
00:07:24.000Well, no, because I do think that this is extremely susceptible to bias.
00:07:27.000And even more so, I mean, if... Do you want to say something?
00:07:30.000No, yeah, I would question that because a lot of other people, like John Oliver, when he came to his show last week, tonight, almost last year, made very similar claims on his HBO show, warning us about Dominion, warning us about the accountability, warning us about the numbers.
00:07:45.000Almost very similarly to the report that was just released by the Republicans, but this was an argument being made by, let's just say, the kind of leftist establishment institutions when it was against, you know, this larger idea of Russian collusion.
00:07:58.000So what do you think of, like, other proponents of the left saying this election was a fraud four years ago, and now, like, John Oliver oddly kind of changing their mind and saying it's legitimate?
00:08:07.000Specifically, John Oliver about a year ago produced a 20-minute segment And targeted a bunch of these voting machines, including Dominion, for the susceptibility to fraud.
00:08:26.000I don't really like him very much, to be honest.
00:08:29.000I guess I would just want to know if you think that if they have an error rate of close to 70%, do you think we would have discovered that sooner than now?
00:08:39.00068.05 so I think just just to cite what you're saying the tabulation log this is from section 8
00:08:45.000For the forensic for the for the forensic examination of the server in antrim county for december 6 2020 consists of
00:08:51.00015,000 676 individual events of which 10,000
00:08:55.000667 or 68.05 of the events were recorded errors these errors
00:09:00.000errors resulted in overall tabulation, errors or ballots being sent to adjudication.
00:09:04.000The high error rate proves the Dominion voting system is flawed and does not meet state or
00:10:12.000And didn't he even say, like, acknowledge that he was the one that made that error?
00:10:17.000I can pull this up really quick from where I'm reading it from.
00:10:19.000Yeah, see if you can pull it up because I'm not super familiar.
00:10:22.000My thing is like, is this guy putting factually baseless statements about numbers and just like making up numbers and then giving them to a court?
00:10:32.000I don't think there's a grand conspiracy.
00:10:36.000I think Trump certainly is, you know, spitting and yowling, but if there's a grand conspiracy, Bill Barr would have just launched investigations and done what Trump wanted.
00:10:42.000And if he's under oath, he would go to jail.
00:10:52.000Yeah, if he faked these numbers and gave them to a judge or presented them to a court, I can't imagine.
00:10:57.000Now, I don't think that he's just lying.
00:11:00.000Don't get me wrong, I don't think this guy's just making up some BS report and then just, like, lying about it under oath, or whether he's under oath or not, regardless.
00:11:58.000So, I don't know the exact year, but when Dominion went to Texas and said, we want to use these voting machines, they did tests on them and said, whoa, no way, we can't use these.
00:12:07.000I would just want to know how long ago that was.
00:12:08.000I mean, yeah, I know that in the beginning stages, I'm sure that they were much less unreliable, but they've been being used for a long time now.
00:12:16.000I think also that if we were using voting machines that had such significant error rates, I kind of think we would have discovered that sooner.
00:12:25.000And again, if his report was, there's an error rate, and that's concerning, that's one thing.
00:12:31.000But the fact that he's trying to claim that that's a system fault.
00:12:35.000It was January of this year, Texas rejected the machines.
00:12:38.000Yeah, after they did tests on them from the Texan.
00:12:40.000Texas rejected use of Dominion voting system software due to efficiency issues.
00:12:46.000I think that should be, should have been off.
00:15:02.000Well, technically, he had a whole big coughing speech today, which everyone is talking about on Twitter just right before the show went on, highlighting how he was coughing his way through his little accepting speech.
00:15:15.000Is that how Kamala Harris becomes president?
00:15:16.000I don't know, but there's a lot of people from left-leaning Twitter accounts saying, God, I hope he doesn't have the coronavirus from his latest speech.
00:15:24.000That's literally what I'm seeing right now.
00:16:26.000You know the part where like they're doing the, uh, the, the exorcism and then Alec Baldwin and I remember that as a lady's name, like they start like becoming really decrepit and like, then like, I think it's Alec Baldwin's jaw falls off or whatever.
00:16:38.000That reminds me of like people in Congress, you know, like Joe Biden, like Nancy Pelosi, like Mitch McConnell.
00:16:44.000Who was the person that was like, their tooth fell out?
00:18:05.000If you compare Gen Z to Gen X, It's almost like, like Gen Z is almost the same as millennial in terms of where they are politically, but they're slightly more conservative in some areas.
00:19:04.000I would be OK with talking about that.
00:19:08.000But I think my problem is, is when people like Trump say that we need to get rid of Section 230 protections when it's like they just don't know what the heck they're talking Yeah, he's stringing himself up with it.
00:19:18.000That would be the end of all of these conservative channels.
00:19:20.000If Section 230 was gone, like, we wouldn't be able to have this conversation live right now.
00:19:23.000Well, we would because I'm verified on YouTube.
00:19:29.000And I think that's what's coming, right?
00:19:30.000Do you guys see that Pornhub just nuked all unverified content?
00:19:34.000Luke's not nodding because he probably discovered it, like, manually.
00:19:36.000Luke Brown was like, where's my favorite videos?
00:19:40.000Pornography is a sin, and it's rotting away the youth of this nation and destroying their brains, and there's a strong argument... Is that a real opinion?
00:19:48.000Yeah, I mean, there's a strong argument to make against pornography and the effects, especially on young children, that it's having that is rotting their brains away, literally.
00:21:26.000Yeah, I used to think that same kind of stuff.
00:21:28.000You probably got to verify that kind of stuff.
00:21:31.000Especially if it could be trafficking.
00:21:32.000You need to make sure these people are consenting to this stuff.
00:21:34.000But then, I just think what's going to happen with YouTube, they did the verification removal wave, where all these channels got their badges removed.
00:21:42.000Actually, if I could just really quickly cut in, because I remember that happening, because I was actually one of the creators that got contacted by YouTube and I was told that my creator badge was going to be taken.
00:21:52.000And I was like pissed AF about it, obviously.
00:21:55.000And then YouTube quickly said they weren't going to do that.
00:22:13.000Now, since then, they've been pulling people from the partner program.
00:22:18.000Instead of doing a wave of removing badges, they said, okay, we got to do it one by one individually to random people in different communities so that no one gets angry and starts a news cycle about it.
00:22:28.000Since then, they've purged tons of channels.
00:22:31.000This year alone, YouTube said in their own statement, 8,000 channels have been deleted.
00:22:36.000So that's how they slowly start getting rid of them without causing an uproar.
00:22:39.000The reason I bring this up is, in the Section 230 conversation, what I think's going to happen is eventually, YouTube's going to be like, you have to be verified to produce on YouTube.
00:22:50.000So that's why I said we'll probably be fine, because I am a verified YouTube channel.
00:22:53.000They never threaten to take my badges away.
00:22:55.000They, you know, I have direct contact with people at Google.
00:22:58.000They tell me, like, when there's rule changes, I can call them and they clarify and then, you know, they like me in that regard because I'm rather milquetoast, I suppose.
00:23:06.000Well, the boiling the frog analogy is good because not a lot of people know this, but Scott Adams and Jeff Berwick just had their channels totally taken off.
00:23:14.000And just like you said, the same thing kind of happened to me, but then they got rid of my partner program later on.
00:23:19.000And I'm like, wait, what's going on here?
00:23:21.000And another important thing that YouTube announced is that they also will start putting advertisements on channels that are not in the partner program anymore.
00:23:30.000They could put ads on mine and I'm getting comments saying, Hey, there was an ad.
00:23:33.000I'm happy I got, you know, I was able to watch it for you, Luke.
00:23:36.000And I'm like, I'm not in the partner program anymore.
00:23:39.000And that just happened a couple of days ago.
00:23:47.000So, so I think, I think one, I think what's going to happen next is they're probably not going to say anything cause they don't have to, but channels that don't have verification probably already are de-ranked in the algorithm.
00:24:10.000If you build an audience up where you say something like, you know, backflips are the best, and then all the backflip fans are going, yeah!
00:25:25.000I decided to leave the right I'm kidding, by the way.
00:25:27.000What did you what did you take start to take issue with that you used to believe?
00:25:32.000Well, I started taking issues just with the right wing kind of in general first, and I know that conservatives, they're very broad.
00:25:41.000I'm not trying to prescribe this on all conservatives by any means, but my experience anyway, I felt like especially the further right you went, tradition took precedent and so it was tradition over
00:25:53.000really anything else even if that was at the expense of other people's rights so I
00:25:57.000have a total problem with people who although maybe not conservative
00:26:01.000would be far-right having those people being against gay marriage because it's
00:26:05.000not traditional but Trump's for gay marriage and he was pro gay marriage
00:26:09.000before he even ran for it before he ran
00:26:11.000And then he was the, he's the first president to be pro-gay marriage before becoming president.
00:26:16.000So like he entered office, he had that famous photo where he's unfurling the LGBT flag, but that's not like he's, but that's the problem is that's all he's done.
00:26:22.000He's done, he's been very detrimental for the LGBT community.
00:26:25.000I mean, well, but maybe the GBT community, but I think there's a lot of lesbians that are actually very, very much in support of him.
00:26:30.000He actually has a really large base of gay men too.
00:26:47.000It's virtue signaling, honestly, because what Trump's doing is he's signaling to this virtue that he's pro-LGBT, but yet Now that he's been in government, the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court if they could stop gay people from adopting, despite there being repeated longitudinal studies which show that kids raised by gay parents do not fare worse than their straight couple counterparts.
00:27:34.000I thought it was more recent than that.
00:27:35.000I thought he was talking about a time specifically where he wanted to... Taxpayer-funded organizations should be able to refuse to work with same-sex couples and others whom the group considers to be in violation of its religious beliefs.
00:27:49.000I think that that would still kind of fall in line with violation of LGBT rights, especially when you talk about, like, there are a bunch of kids in our foster care system right now, and gay couples obviously are far more likely to adopt because they can't have children.
00:28:48.000But yeah, no, I'm a big proponent of the nuclear family, but what I always say is that the nuclear family is just two parents raising children.
00:28:54.000It doesn't have to be a straight couple raising the parents.
00:29:01.000They haven't been able to make a determination if it's male and female or just two parents.
00:29:06.000And I think, like, Simply put, if we can get kids who are in orphanages or, you know, who need to be adopted to any loving family, like that's preferable to having a homeless kid who's living in the system, that's terrible.
00:29:20.000So I, you know, but the, but yeah, there was a report that came out where it said like the science so far that we've done can't determine between male, you know, traditional like parents of like a male man and a woman or, you know, same sex couple.
00:29:37.000And I know that, yeah, I don't know if it's the same study or another one, but I've looked at ones too that showed that they usually actually, when children of gay parents fare worse, it's because of like social stigma, because of the gay parents, not so much like because anything to do with the gay people necessarily.
00:29:53.000But yeah, I mean, that's one instance, I guess, of Donald Trump expressing some anti-LGBT sentiments.
00:30:01.000I don't think that Trump is like this malicious anti-gay president, but I also think that he's a bit virtue signaling when it comes to that.
00:30:44.000And that was one of the that's like another thing that I was really concerned about with Trump is just his approach to free speech with with his calls to repeal Section 230 with his calls to to make it easier to sue media companies.
00:31:00.000Well, suing media companies isn't a bad thing.
00:31:02.000It could be if you could be more liable laws and stuff.
00:31:05.000I mean, yeah, that was definitely the stop criticism of him, I believe.
00:31:09.000Well, the issue is that there's a really tough standard right now from a ruling called Times v. Sullivan, where media outlets—you have to prove they knowingly lied, and it almost never even gets to the point where you can.
00:31:22.000So there's things called anti-slap laws.
00:31:24.000Basically, the New York Times could publish whatever—well, here's a better example.
00:31:29.000They used clever language in how they lied.
00:31:31.000And if I did sue, they'd just be like, get out of here.
00:31:35.000But I'm like, if we went to discovery, if you allow this case, I might find their messages where they say, hey, does this sound, you know, legit?
00:32:10.000And you know, I know before we went live, you were showing me some examples of like media bias and stuff, and I would never deny that the media is incredibly biased and.
00:32:19.000I mean, it would depend on the publication also, but I like your idea with the defamation thing.
00:32:24.000Because it's weird right now where a news organization will publish something false, and then someone will sue and say, or someone will complain it's false and they'll say, well, we're not gonna correct it.
00:33:38.000Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that there's room for conversation there, but I think that Donald Trump's calling to repeal libel laws and the way he said it, too, is so we can make a bunch of money or whatever.
00:33:47.000I don't think that it was coming from a sincere and nuanced perspective like what you have.
00:33:53.000I think that it was coming from media companies are criticizing me and I want to be able to sue them easier.
00:34:34.000A lot of leftists do, however, want him pardoned as well.
00:34:36.000So it's more like the neolib establishment left, who were never really the biggest fans of him for the most part anyway, but Oh, nobody likes them.
00:34:46.000I think what really happened is that when Trump got elected, the establishment cronies from the Republican Party went to the Democrats, their next closest alignment.
00:34:54.000But we are seeing an interesting alignment where like, I guess you voted, is it publicly you voted for?
00:35:14.000He, as part of, like, the Obama administration prosecuted more journalists and whistleblowers, you know, than any other.
00:35:20.000Under the Espionage Act, more than all the other presidencies before him combined.
00:35:24.000Yeah, so the left has become, like even, like the left has become the authoritarians.
00:35:30.000It used to be that the Republicans, like when I was growing up, were the moral authoritarians, and the authoritarians, George W. Bush started these wars, and they wanted to ban, like, I've got art downstairs, where it's from the card game Magic the Gathering, and in the 90s, the right got some card art banned, had to be changed.
00:35:45.000Today, the banned cards I have now came from the left getting art banned.
00:36:55.000Well, Trump was there and he's like, you know, giving a speech to the Republicans where he says, you know, these people and, you know, I think he's talking about the Pulse nightclub shooting.
00:37:03.000He said, there's a lot of people who have religious differences with this group, but these are Americans.
00:37:08.000These are our people and they were attacked.
00:37:09.000And everyone starts clapping and cheering.
00:37:11.000Meanwhile, the Democratic National Convention, Bernie Sanders gets ripped off and the left is like trying to knock the barricades down and jump over and storm into the building.
00:37:21.000Now the weirdest thing happens is you get, like, these faux-progressive corporate, you know, independent commentators on YouTube and such, who are just like, the machine is right!
00:37:49.000The left is very much in favor of the lockdowns and a stimulus.
00:37:52.000Like, that's the antithesis of where the left would have been a while ago.
00:37:56.000Definitely in favor of more socialist policy and stuff, but not letting the government just decree that we're going to bar you from leaving your homes, which they're doing, and they're cheering for.
00:38:06.000I think my favorite thing about, like, Joe Biden is when he said, Trinidad and Shabba to pressure, and the audience was cheering for him.
00:38:11.000It's like now that's something remarkable.
00:38:13.000Shout out to Cassandra Fairbanks for pointing that out.
00:38:42.000Yeah, that's Barack Obama's spokesperson and his right-hand man throughout his entire political career, Robert Gibbs, who came out and literally got angry.
00:38:50.000He was like, he should have had a better father.
00:38:53.000Obama dropped a bomb on a kid in a civilian restaurant.
00:39:23.000It's so funny hearing you say this, because with my experience, I feel like I've seen the same exact thing happen on the right.
00:39:29.000Oh, the right just wants, like, they want to own the libs.
00:39:33.000And there are people who go on Twitter and just...
00:39:35.000Do you think that the right is heavily ideologically driven?
00:39:39.000I've found that the right tends to already have a set of presuppositions and then they go out of their way to find support for their already held beliefs rather than the other way around, which is trying to approach it neutrally and then forming your opinion based on— That's both the left and the right.
00:40:11.000So you'll see, like, I was down at Occupy Wall Street.
00:40:14.000I didn't agree with a lot of them because they were extremely racist people.
00:40:19.000It was one of the most racist things I've ever experienced at Occupy.
00:40:22.000and uh... but there a lot of economic populist there who are necessarily
00:40:26.000in line with the weird racism stuff in their fights over it
00:40:29.000that that i think the last has become predominantly racist relative to where the right is house
00:40:35.000so so uh... occupy wall street they segregated voting blocks based on race
00:40:39.000well that i'd just can't speak on that But would you agree that's racist?
00:40:42.000To be like, we're gonna allow you to vote for how things are run here, but we want all the brown people here, all the black people here, all the Mexicans here, and all the Asians here, and you're all separated based on your color and you can vote.
00:40:52.000Only one vote per group, no matter how many of you there are.
00:42:01.000Well, no, the problem with that was that he was going in there hoping that by lowering corporate taxes, we would see more businesses coming back to the U.S., but that's just not what happened.
00:42:10.000Well, the economy did do ridiculously well in 2019.
00:42:56.000So if you want to save money for the businesses and the elites, then you allow them to send their jobs to China, for instance, where they pay people garbage and there's human rights abuses.
00:43:09.000Lowering, so let's take a look at what Joe Biden, his plan is.
00:43:13.000He wants to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour, and he wants to raise corporate taxes by about 10%.
00:43:18.000If you go to a corporation, a manufacturer, say someone who makes socks, and say, we're going to raise your taxes by 10%, you've got to pay all of your employees 30% more.
00:43:27.000When was the last time minimum wage went up?
00:43:28.000you're squeezing me dry I can't afford how am I supposed to do this I don't worry don't worry
00:43:32.000we're gonna have a free trade agreement and you're gonna be able to run your factory in China that's
00:43:37.000what that's what that's what Obama was doing and that's and it worked so you when was the last
00:43:42.000time minimum wage went up very very long time ago so so should it be increased no even though it
00:43:49.000hasn't been adjusted for inflation or anything yes so the there's there's a bunch of problems
00:43:53.000outside of what the minute about outside of the minimum wage and the minimum wage is not a solution
00:43:57.000to the problem if so you need to sit down and talk with like a small business accountant that's
00:44:03.000exactly what I did to better understand the issue I I talked to an accountant who represented like 300 small businesses and I said, we have a problem because people don't have money to spend.
00:44:33.000These people who run these small businesses, they're corporations too, and they have like 10 employees, but the owners aren't rich by any stretch of the imagination.
00:44:40.000They might be paying their employees 10 bucks an hour because all they can pay.
00:44:44.000And then the guy who runs the business is only getting $50,000 a year.
00:44:47.000He's making a modest salary for him and his family.
00:44:49.000Well, then all of a sudden they come in and say, increase your wages, your costs by 30% plus employment taxes.
00:44:57.000And all of a sudden this guy's only been making $20,000 a year and he says, I can't afford that.
00:45:00.000I'd rather just go work as a manager at corporate for Walmart or something.
00:45:05.000That has the impact, specifically in New Jersey when they passed this law, is when I went to an accountant to ask him, you know, tell me what's going on.
00:45:12.000He said he lost a ton of business, accounts were cancelled and businesses just shut overnight.
00:45:16.000You can't force the economy to just increase.
00:45:20.000There's one good thing about the minimum wage, and it's about exports.
00:45:24.000is getting $15 an hour, that means everybody can afford something made in China better.
00:45:29.000And that's been one of the biggest strategies of Joe Biden.
00:45:32.000If we increase the minimum wage, increase corporate taxes, we'll have all our factories go to China, because Joe Biden and Obama were very much in favor of these free trade agreements, notably the TPP, and now the new agreement that they've recently negotiated without us.
00:45:46.000Joe Biden's gonna get us in that day one.
00:45:50.000But the good thing is it will make it so that somebody who works at McDonald's who makes 15 bucks an hour can more easily afford the iPhone made by the slaves in China.
00:45:59.000See, I think that's horrifying and ultimately it's a downward trajectory where we lose all of our jobs.
00:46:05.000And then eventually America just sustains itself off of printing petrodollars.
00:46:09.000And that can only work so long as we're blowing other people up and threatening them that if they disagree with our Say, building an oil pipeline or natural gas pipeline through Syria, then we arm the rebels in Syria to destroy the government and wipe out whole cities.
00:46:32.000So Trump's... Do you know that, just out of curiosity, for the Joe Biden $15 minimum wage, do you know if that's just across the board or does that only apply to certain corporations?
00:47:31.000And they told everyone to, like, melt down their tools or whatever.
00:47:34.000Like, this is a bunch of weird, weird stuff.
00:47:36.000When you take a bunch of people who don't know how to do something and then give them control over a system and they can't do it, it fails.
00:50:13.000Joe Biden's son was flown on Air Force Two to China for a billion dollar private equity deal, where his family was given a five million dollar forgivable interest-free loan, and when Tony Bobulinski found out they took the money and we told him not to do it, he came out and blew the whistle.
00:50:26.000And he said the Bidens are compromised.
00:50:28.000Or you've got the Ukraine-Burisma deal, where Matt Taibbi, a liberal formerly of Rolling Stone, reported there were at least a dozen or more investigations for criminal activity into Burisma, where Joe Biden's son was working, and Biden personally flew out After their PR company reached out to the State Department saying, why are you investigating?
00:51:07.000Did you not just say— I said he was flown in Air Force Two by Joe Biden to negotiate a private—a billion-dollar private equity deal in China.
00:51:29.000Again, there's corruption on both sides here.
00:51:31.000But if I'm forced to choose between Donald Trump— What's the misinformation?
00:51:34.000Well, the misinformation here, I was referring to the—there's a lot of misinformation about the $1.5 million, but I know you didn't bring that up.
00:52:50.000So even it's his acknowledgement, that's why they brought him on.
00:52:53.000We also have the emails where, when he's doing his Chinese negotiations, they talk about the big guy, and that was confirmed by Tony Bobulinski.
00:52:59.000Viktor Shokin was the prosecutor who signed a sworn affidavit in court, in Ukraine, that said he was investigating, active investigations, and Joe Biden intervened and put pressure on him.
00:53:13.000And he had a meeting with the president after the president was told, we're not going to get the billion dollars, and he said to him, you're being fired.
00:53:20.000So when you have the PR company and these emails are publicly released, you should probably read them, where they're saying, why are we being investigated?
00:53:27.000The vice president's son is on the board.
00:53:28.000And then what was like a couple months later, Joe Biden flies out there and gets the prosecutor fired.
00:53:33.000If you're saying the prosecutor was doing a bad job, my question is, how come the new prosecutor who came in cleared Barisma of all wrong, cleared Zelensky of all wrongdoing, allowing him to return to Ukraine after he was under criminal investigation.
00:53:45.000And it's only after Donald Trump got in and started pressing things, he fled to Monaco.
00:53:48.000So if you don't know any of this stuff, you can't just come out and say it's misinformation, because I've done so much reporting on this.
00:53:53.000I just want to know more about whether Joe Biden actually played a role in getting the prosecutor fired.
00:55:04.000And they put in place someone who was solid.
00:55:07.000Someone who was solid, who cleared Zlochesky of all wrongdoing, and then after Trump got in, they reopened investigations and he fled to Monaco.
00:55:15.000So it sounds like, based on the fact that the PR firm for Burisma was reaching out to the State Department, that Joe Biden admitted he used a billion dollars in guaranteed loans, something he's not allowed to do.
00:55:25.000That's what they accuse Trump of doing.
00:55:26.000He doesn't have the authority to do it, only Congress has the authority to do it.
00:55:29.000Joe Biden illegally said, you're not getting a billion dollars unless a prosecutor gets fired.
00:55:38.000Wrote an article, he said, about how crazy it was that if you actually did any amount of basic journalism, you found a dozen or more active criminal investigations in this company.
00:55:51.000If I could just really quickly, like I will 100% concede again that yes, there is corruption on both sides.
00:55:56.000I hadn't seen that video before, so I will be 100% willing to look more into that.
00:56:00.000Yeah, that's That's the video that I was asking specifically. Yeah. I'm
00:56:02.000glad that you played that for me because I mean I'm always open to learning new information and
00:56:06.000But also I've been wrong about plenty of other things before too. I'm not afraid to acknowledge it
00:56:12.000Yeah, this is in the news also today as the Department of Justice just announced that they're investigating Hunter
00:56:17.000Biden Specifically with his burisma ties and that's today. That's
00:56:21.000today And there's also new emails showing that there's close to
00:56:28.000$23,000 that were unreported income from burisma when it comes to Hunter Biden
00:56:34.000So it was more than this is Yes, and this is important to understand here on the backdrop of the Attorney General resigning today since, of course, William Barr actually hid a lot of this information before this election and also made sure that the subpoenas surrounding this particular investigation weren't released after the election.
00:56:57.000Now we're finding out some of these subpoenas.
00:56:59.000And this could be one of the reasons why William Barr, the Attorney General, who said he saw the Epstein tapes that were supposedly deleted, resigned today.
00:57:07.000Sorry, that's another side topic that I just barred up.
00:57:10.000But this is important news because this broke today, and they're specifically looking at Burisma, so this could blow up in everyone's face very soon.
00:58:05.000I don't, I don't like Biden, but I was kind of stuck between Biden or Trump.
00:58:10.000And I felt like Biden in this instance was a little bit of a better option, especially as.
00:58:15.000Just as a dad, there were a lot of things I was seeing with what Trump was saying that I just couldn't align with.
00:58:20.000I mean, I know we talked about the flag-burning thing, but even Trump's, like, 1776 commission with, like, trying to explicitly teach children a biased, pro-American viewpoint.
00:58:34.000Like, my daughter's almost two, and I don't want to think about it, but I know she's going off to school soon, right?
00:58:39.000I don't want her going and being taught, like, a brainwashed, Like the 1619 Project, like they're teaching right now.
00:59:06.0001619 Project and Critical Race Theory.
00:59:08.000Critical Race Theory, more importantly, is being taught as basic curriculum across the country.
00:59:12.000If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the 1619 Project, although historically inaccurate and very stupid, I think that it's being taught in maybe some select schools, but it's not like a national curriculum, right?
00:59:22.000I'm pretty sure it... It's a New York Times project.
00:59:27.000Yeah, and schools are teaching it like crazy because these teachers, they hold this ideology.
00:59:46.000It's a historically inaccurate account of basically America's founding, and they argue that America was founded on...
00:59:57.000I don't even fully understand it either, because I just know it's stupid and inaccurate.
01:00:00.000From Education Next, educators around the country are indeed teaching the 1619 Project.
01:00:05.000What precisely students and other interested observers are learning is another question.
01:00:08.000The 1619 Project is certainly educational, or at least instructive, but not only in the ways it was intended, and they're going to explain what it is.
01:00:15.000In the classroom, Random House Children's Books announced plans to publish four 1619 Project books for young readers, one young adult, etc.
01:00:24.000I mean, so that would definitely be a problem.
01:00:26.000Would it be better that they learned, like, a very patriotic pro-America or a very anti-America?
01:00:31.000It would be better for them to learn the truth about America and not have a biased, historically accurate account of how America got started, right?
01:00:40.000Based on which author, which literature?
01:00:52.000I think even the author of the 16—or even one of the people on 1619 acknowledged that it wasn't really historically accurate.
01:00:57.000Yeah, it's funny because only, like, way later, after, like, they started getting attacked relentlessly non-stop, but they won Pulitzers for it, so... This is just my problem, though, is see, this is Donald Trump trying to combat this 1619 project by doing something that I would argue is just as bad.
01:01:12.000I don't want a biased... So what was his curriculum that he was gonna teach?
01:01:16.000He was going to teach a pro-patriotic, which would be explicitly biased in favor of America.
01:01:22.000That kind of a curriculum, like, that's brainwashing also, right?
01:01:30.000I promise you, I know this sounds like it's unrelated, but it is.
01:01:34.000One of the things I talk about a lot on my channel is the fat acceptance movement, which are the body positivity people, the people that are really fat that claim that, oh, just who cares about health?
01:02:43.000And that's not, like, that point is made by the left when they say people watch Star Wars and don't understand why they're cheering for it.
01:02:50.000They're cheering for a religious faction from a desert planet taking a cargo ship and rebel fighter pilots and then blowing up a military base.
01:02:58.000It's actually clerks, I think, you know, with the Kevin Smith film made a really good point.
01:03:03.000They were contractors and janitors and like regular people just working on this base, had no idea what was going on.
01:03:15.000You choose to work on a military base, so when Al-Qaeda blows it up, that's your own fault.
01:03:19.000The point is, you talk about being pro, you know, Trump's pro-America view of the world.
01:03:25.000And it's like, sure, you could argue that the Founding Fathers were insurrectionist terrorists who were just greedy slave owners and wanted to reject the crown because the crown wanted its cut.
01:03:35.000And furthermore, the British were defending the seas for the American colonies.
01:03:39.000The ingrates were angry over a tea tax because they didn't want to pay their fair share.
01:03:45.000Well, I reckon— It's kind of ridiculous, right?
01:03:59.000And if that was how it was told, that wouldn't be historically accurate.
01:04:01.000Well, that's based on, you know, people's interpretation, because you could interpret history in many different ways, but I agree with your point that our kind of higher learning institutions, our school institutions are corrupted, but I don't think it's because of Trump.
01:04:14.000I think they've been like that for a very long time, especially since their institution under the Rockefeller policies that wanted to make good factory workers, and that's essentially what kind of school is in our modern day and age.
01:04:26.000So, there's a couple things that come up to mind when you're talking about this.
01:04:30.000One interesting one was the recent decision by Cornell University that recently decided that they're going to be making the vaccine mandatory, the COVID-19 vaccine mandatory, but only for white students.
01:04:44.000I was wondering what your... Is that actually a true story?
01:04:53.000In Oregon, they're doing grants for COVID that only go to black businesses.
01:04:57.000So it's like... Yeah, so when you have institutions like that that are hired by, you know, the state money... Can I have a little more context on that Cornell?
01:05:05.000I could send you the article if you want and we could look into it.
01:05:09.000There's also another incident that I would love to get your kind of feedback on.
01:05:12.000In New York City, we have the school superintendent literally arguing and trying to make it a mandate that if there's a poor white kid and a middle class or rich black kid, that school resources should predominantly go to the black kid, not to the poor white kid.
01:05:26.000From the College Fix, Cornell vaccine mandate only applies to white students, saying, Quote, we recognize that due to long-standing systemic racism and health inequities in this country, individuals from some marginalized communities may have concerns about needing to agree to such requirements.
01:05:40.000For example, historically, the bodies of the black, indigenous, and people of color have been mistreated and used by people in power, sometimes for profit or medical gain.
01:05:49.000It is understandable that the current compact requirement may feel suspect or even exploitative to some BIPOC members of the Cornell community.
01:05:56.000Additionally, recent acts of violence against black people by law enforcement may contribute to feelings of distrust or powerlessness.
01:06:02.000While the university strongly recommends that non-white students comply voluntarily because long-standing social inequities and health disparities have resulted in COVID-19 disproportionately affecting BIPOC individuals, they will be granted an exemption if they cite their racial identity.
01:06:17.000I mean, that's that's definitely very bull.
01:06:20.000That's definitely like some bullshit right there.
01:06:22.000I think what they're doing is like, because systemic racism, for example, is 100% a real thing.
01:06:27.000But that is probably the dumbest, most idiotic way imaginable.
01:06:33.000But it's not, though, because you have, like, you do have your- Name me a good policy.
01:06:38.000Like, name a- if that's an example of, like, doing it wrong, what's an example of rectifying systemic racism correctly?
01:06:45.000Sure, so in these, for example, majority black communities, where they are- have much more rates of poverty and higher rates of crime, obviously the reason for the high crime rate is because of poverty.
01:06:56.000So, I would, like, I'm not a policy maker, but I would like to see more investment into those areas because if we were, for example, able to open up better businesses, give people more jobs, hire people, that's one, step one.
01:07:34.000If they come in and they start putting all this money into buildings and infrastructure, and then the property values start skyrocketing, these black families are going to get priced out, taxed out, and they're going to get kicked out.
01:07:56.000More business means more taxes, means more commerce, more tax revenue, better streets, better buildings, better repairs, and tax goes up, right?
01:08:59.000Another option would be we need to stop funding schools with the taxes collected in that neighborhood,
01:09:03.000obviously, because that creates a vicious cycle where then you have poor people going
01:09:06.000to shit schools and it repeats forever.
01:09:09.000That's another example of what we can do to fix it.
01:09:11.000But again, I'm not a policymaker and I recognize that what I've said about investing in those areas is a rather surface level and simplified version of what I think could help.
01:09:20.000For me, I'm more interested in talking to people about systemic racism right now
01:09:24.000because we first have to acknowledge that the problem even exists before we can go about
01:09:29.000fixing the problem. How would you define systemic racism?
01:09:32.000Well, I define systemic racism a little differently than I think a lot of people would. For me,
01:09:37.000systemic racism would be, it's oftentimes like you can see it in history and then you
01:10:06.000Does it predominantly affect black families or black people?
01:10:09.000Yeah, and that's because a lot of the reasons that black people are in the position they are today is, of course, because of historical racist policies from America.
01:11:18.000Louis, they're referring to like 90 different cities.
01:11:20.000All of these little tiny cities that surround it going westward that were formed because white people were fleeing the inner city due to increasing poverty and crime and because of racism.
01:11:31.000They created new townships and then immediately enacted racial covenants.
01:11:34.000So these are laws that are no longer legal.
01:11:38.000It created a two-tier, like, I'm oversimplifying things for sure, but you basically create two tracks where one is doing well and one is doing poorly.
01:11:46.000You get rid of the laws that made this problem happen, like redlining or blockbusting, and now we're dealing with the generational after-effects of why these people are in poverty, why there's crime in their areas.
01:11:57.000The problem is, we're now at a point now where after we've gotten rid of the racist laws, we had racist law, we had racial covenants, And now we have the modern left advocating for bringing back racial law.
01:12:10.000And I'm like, well, that's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
01:12:13.000Like talking about policies directed towards different races or affirmative action-like policies.
01:12:18.000You're just talking about creating more laws.
01:12:21.000If you went back in time and said, we're going to create a law for white people to protect them, Then people would argue, but it's just a positive thing, it doesn't hurt them, it's, you know... Well, no, it's creating a disproportionate effect, which will result in one, you know, group of people doing better than the other, which will lead to poverty, crime, and other detriments, because you're essentially, you know, you can make the argument, but ultimately you have a two-track system.
01:13:09.000Oh, like he just wants to continue being- Yeah, so his idea is like, you know, I'm trying to steel man his argument that if you have people who are disproportionately affected by past, you know, historical precedent and laws, then we need to target different communities based on race and discriminate positively or negatively.
01:13:25.000Meaning negative towards one group that's doing too well, like Asians for instance, and positive towards, say, Latinos who aren't doing as well.
01:13:31.000Yeah, see, I would disagree with that entirely.
01:13:32.000I don't think that we should be stifling one to try to bring them down.
01:13:36.000I think what we should try to be doing is helping the communities that are where they are today because of American policies in the past get to where everyone else is.
01:13:45.000I've never agreed with this idea of tearing one down to try to bring one up kind of crap.
01:13:51.000I know that there's a lot of, like, lib cucks and people that advocate for crap like that.
01:13:55.000Um, but no, I would never be in favor of anything.
01:13:57.000Well, there's different issues to really kind of consider here because if you're going to, if you're going to try to help people who are hurt historically, you know, what about the Polish people who were subjugated by the Nazis and then the USSR?
01:14:09.000Well, there's, there's, there's also, I mean, we can, We can go about, like, I think there are going to be different ways that we can address different kind of historical, like, oppressions.
01:14:18.000But the main reason that I think it's so important that we focus on black people in America right now is because this is a really prevalent example of where a huge group of people are still being greatly, disproportionately affected by policies that although are no longer, like, on the books, the results of those policies still exist, right?
01:14:38.000So the problem now is having done away with those laws, and with the passing of things like Loving v. Virginia, we've now created not just one community.
01:14:50.000It's not just the black community anymore.
01:14:52.000It is the poor neighborhoods, and I'm not saying, you know, not all black neighborhoods are poor.
01:14:57.000If you look at where Obama was, you know, in Hyde Park, it's very well off.
01:15:00.000So targeting it based on race is a mistake.
01:15:02.000You don't, like, we don't want to, we don't think the Obama family needs help.
01:16:44.000I mean, I'm not too familiar with Haitians, but I know Nigerians, for example, are cited a lot of the times as an example of, like, how can systemic racism exist?
01:16:55.000shouldn't use race as the factor because you've got multi-generations of families that have
01:17:01.000now existed outside of the confines of racial covenants and racial laws.
01:17:05.000You have immigrants for generations who have come in and faced completely different circumstances.
01:17:09.000And if individuals are racist, there's no real hard solution for that because, you know,
01:17:15.000people still have some level of freedom to associate.
01:17:18.000Now, I'm actually fairly liberal on a lot of issues, particularly, like, I think if you're operating a business in public, you have to serve the public within reason.
01:17:27.000So, like, I actually agree that, you know, we should have laws saying, if you want to run a bakery and someone comes in and says, I require service, you give it to them.
01:17:34.000Now, the specific example with the baker in Colorado was that he wouldn't write a message.
01:18:11.000But no, I'm not saying we just go give money to black communities.
01:18:16.000I'm saying we would invest in, yes, in those poor communities that oftentimes, unfortunately, tend to be black as well.
01:18:23.000And the reason for that is because of historical inequality.
01:18:26.000So I'm not saying that racial laws are the solution, but I'm saying that acknowledging that black people are where they are today, largely because they were discriminated against because of their race, that's just the fact of the matter.
01:18:36.000It was, they got a bunch of the slaves.
01:18:38.000It basically came from, they're discriminated against because they were like the descendants of slaves and didn't have any money coming out.
01:18:46.000When we look at American history, we see a history of a lot of immigrants, of a lot of discrimination.
01:18:51.000A lot of different groups are discriminated against.
01:18:53.000But I particularly wanted to get your point on the New York City school superintendent saying, when there's school resources, it shouldn't go to the poor white kid.
01:19:01.000It should go to the middle class and even upper class black kid.
01:19:07.000This is such a huge problem that the left does all the time, which is where we are criticizing systems and then they apply that to an individual, which is really, really a problem.
01:19:19.000I mean, white privilege is a perfect example.
01:19:21.000You can talk about, on a statistical level, white people might have some level of privilege over other groups, but if you then go up to one single white guy and be like, screw off, privileged white boy!
01:19:32.000That's like a problem because you're supposed to be compassionate towards people and ruthless towards systems, right?
01:19:39.000That's kind of like what I like to have.
01:19:41.000The bigger problem I think with like the concept of white privilege is that it's actually majority privilege.
01:19:46.000You know, like you personally would not succeed or survive at all in East Asia.
01:19:51.000I mean, I do think that, yeah, it is partially majority privilege for sure.
01:19:54.000It's like whichever group tends to have more access and more wealth and control of more systems, people tend to favor... So I'm just going to be straight up with people.
01:20:05.000They teach you this and interact with other groups and people who look differently, then there's going to be a bias and it's going to be harder for that person to succeed in that environment.
01:20:13.000And especially if they're like a white person going to East Asia, like you can't even own property in some of these countries.
01:20:30.000Another thing, but I have to say one of my favorite things is seeing manual labor, low paying job people being lectured by Hollywood billionaires about their privilege.
01:20:38.000I think that's also another phase here that people need to realize there's a lot of establishment kind of corporatist language kind of pushed in this that As you could say, it's very virtual signaling.
01:21:01.000I appreciate the conversation, because we could understand where you're coming from, and we could understand your point of view and perspective.
01:21:07.000And it's not just, my party's always right, you know, you're willing to kind of also say... Not at all.
01:21:14.000Yeah, and I think that's critically important, and that's something that's especially missing in today's day and age of dialogue, which is all dominated by, I'm better than you.
01:21:25.000And you know, that's another big thing that I was, that as I kind of found myself sort of Going away from the right that I really discovered is how harmful labels seem to be also I mean this idea that like oh I don't know if I can support this idea because that's a liberal idea or that's a right-wing idea I'm so sick and tired of that for now like I just like to look at ideas that I support or that I don't support Why I support them or why I don't and go with it that way I'm not concerned if it's generally a liberal thing or a right-wing thing and I think that that's I think that sort of like looking past labels is an important step in
01:21:59.000Trying to find an agreement to privilege.
01:22:02.000First of all, I would disagree with telling a poor white person they have white privilege to begin with.
01:22:05.000Well, I would say that's a very kind of generalized kind of statement and it all depends on the circumstance, all depends on the situation, all depends also on the location that you're in.
01:22:15.000I mean, a good example would be that there was a study done several years ago now where they, I'm sure you've all heard of this study actually, where they sent out a bunch of job applications.
01:22:24.000Um, some of them had like cliche white sounding names and then others had black sounding names.
01:22:29.000They had the identical qualifications.
01:22:52.000There's laws in California where your board members have to be a specific color ruling the other way.
01:22:57.000There's a lot of quotas in government agencies that mandate you have a specific person of this ethnicity or this ideology or sex inside of your business.
01:23:07.000So, I mean, that particular study I'm not aware of.
01:23:09.000I would like to look into it and study it more.
01:23:12.000But there's also the opposite happening, which needs to be called out as well.
01:23:31.000And also, if I could just add really quickly, like there have also been studies that found that diversity does benefit the workforce and that when there's diversity in the workplace, like productivity is better, creativity is better, efficiency is better, all that.
01:23:45.000So I agree that diversity makes the workplace better.
01:23:47.000But I think when you're forcing that under like a quota, then yeah, you kind of fall back into that cringy corporate... Define diversity.
01:23:55.000I mean, it would really depend, I guess, on the context.
01:24:01.000It could be diversity between men and women, I guess.
01:24:05.000I know that there were some kind of – was it the Grammys quota or something?
01:24:10.000The general idea is that diversity of opinion will lead to better success because you're getting a wide range of options and then you work through to find the best one.
01:24:20.000What's happened is that the left is kind of right when they say diversity, you know, strength.
01:24:26.000It's like, yeah, but when your idea of diversity is ideological homogeneity and people just look different.
01:24:34.000The original idea was that if you have someone from India and someone from the U.S.
01:24:38.000collaborating on a project, they're going to have wildly different perspectives, which can actually result in finding a solution a singular ideological group could not discover.
01:24:47.000Instead of actually saying, we want people of varying thoughts and opinions and backgrounds to come together, they're saying, so long as you all completely agree politically, And look different.
01:24:58.000We've accomplished diversity, which of course is not.
01:25:00.000You'll end up with a bunch of people who can't actually solve any problems because they all think the same thing.
01:25:33.000I just, I know that generally speaking, like right now we are a multicultural country because we have plenty of different cultures in our country.
01:25:40.000Um, and like, we're the world superpower.
01:25:42.000We have subcultures, but you know, the problem right now is that there's actually, there's, there's two dominant cultures and it's resulting in people killing each other in the streets.
01:25:58.000So when conservatives say multiculturalism, they're referring to more than one culture coexisting next to each other without an overarching parent culture guiding the actions of all the individuals within.
01:26:33.000I'm saying you, like the rhetorical you like.
01:26:35.000When the left argues for multiculturalism, they're explaining that you've got America
01:26:39.000as this big umbrella and a bunch of smaller cultures underneath it.
01:26:43.000So if you come, it's like someone from China comes to the U.S.
01:26:46.000and opens a restaurant and brings their family, they abide by American laws and American customs and free speech and courts and all those rules that don't exist in China.
01:26:54.000It's one of the reasons many people want to come here.
01:26:56.000What the right is saying is that if you have leftists, socialists, communists, SJW critical race theory, and you have it next to a different culture, which is libertarianism, individualism, etc., they clash, they fight, they rip each other apart.
01:27:10.000In that sense, multiculturalism doesn't work.
01:27:13.000In the sense of having a bunch of different immigrant communities all abiding by American law norms, multiculturalism does work.
01:27:34.000And it's funny, because I know you had Vaush on here a couple weeks ago, but he's actually a big part of this story.
01:27:40.000So what happened was, after I found out that my then-girlfriend was pregnant, I went through a lot of personal issues and thought that I had made some mistakes
01:28:04.000It just, I was, I was, I thought this was like something like breaking up with my then
01:28:08.000girlfriend at the time was something that I really did feel strongly about and I
01:28:11.000thought it was the right decision after doing a lot of like thought into it
01:28:14.000and this was something that I was really, really serious about and believed
01:28:18.000really strongly and then it turned out to be catastrophically totally wrong.
01:28:23.000And so I think that kind of set in motion this sort of subconscious, like, if I was so wrong about something I thought I was so right about, is there anything else like this in my life?
01:28:32.000And it was around this time of, like, a lot of contemplating, right, when I was challenged to a debate by Vosh, none other than Vosh, right?
01:28:41.000He and we had a long debate and obviously I think he beat me.
01:28:47.000And he particularly provided some pretty good points on LGBT issues, which I know we're
01:28:51.000not really going to talk about that today, but since that was something that I was so
01:29:27.000Earlier you talked about the importance of the traditional family.
01:29:31.000That seems also in line with a lot of things that are happening in our society that's breaking down because if you look at the traditional family you could see it in decline.
01:29:40.000A lot of people kind of point to it for a lot of the problems in our society.
01:29:46.000Or why do you have such a, you know, strong value and strong opinion on traditional families?
01:29:52.000Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're raising children, traditional families, or the nuclear family, meaning two parents raising the kid, I think that that is undisputed, that that's the best environment for the child.
01:30:01.000So, for me, I support traditional households when you're raising kids, just because that is proven to be the best thing for the child right now.
01:30:10.000But I wouldn't support traditional... I'm fine with people living their lives however they want.
01:30:16.000I'm all about traditional family for myself, and I think that has a lot of benefits for raising kids, but I don't think that that should be prescribed on anyone else.
01:30:24.000So if the traditional family is in decline or not, I'm not as concerned about that, because I like to assume... Now, I would want to know why it's declining, right?
01:30:35.000But I like to assume that it's probably because of people choosing to either pursue different career paths or maybe more people are able to be gay or be bisexual or who knows.
01:30:45.000I think there's a lot of different reasons there.
01:30:47.000That's not particularly a concern of mine though.
01:30:50.000As long as the reason behind it is good, I don't really have a problem with that.
01:31:52.000There's one study I often cite all the time, it's on my Twitter somewhere.
01:31:57.000Liberals, or the left, I hate calling them liberals because they're not liberal, but the left gets 95% of their news from mainstream or left-biased sources.
01:32:07.000Moderates get 60% from left-biased sources and 30% from right-biased sources.
01:32:15.000So conservatives know what the left is thinking, the left doesn't know what the right is thinking.
01:32:18.000As evidenced, my favorite example is when the hashtag Proud Boys was taken over by the left, and it was a bunch of photos of gay men kissing.
01:32:28.000And then they were like, take that Proud Boys, you know, calling them homophobes and stuff.
01:32:33.000And then people started posting the photo of Gavin McInnes, the founder of the Proud Boys, making out with Milo Yiannopoulos.
01:32:37.000Like, I don't think you guys know anything about this group.
01:32:47.000Or insert an item up somewhere, which we will mention on this show.
01:32:52.000But another thing to really watch out if you're getting news from social media is the echo chambers that are naturally created there by the algorithms that literally give you what you want to read to keep you on their platform longer.
01:33:20.000So yeah, you do get into an echo chamber.
01:33:22.000So I don't get my news from social media.
01:33:24.000What I mean is if I see something on social media, I never take it at face value.
01:33:28.000What I usually like to do to form my opinion on something is I like to read about it from multiple different sources.
01:33:34.000And I would prefer actually to read a far left biased source, a far right biased source, and then hopefully Somewhere a little more in the middle in the neutral So I mean that's obviously oversimplifying it.
01:33:45.000Yeah, absolutely Well considering the power is going out.
01:33:48.000I think we've had me a really great conversation So I want to keep going but let's jump over super chats And then we'll just you know carry on from there because we got it we have a lot Unfortunately due to the power outages we lost the first hour of super chats We'll have lost the lot that we lost the first 40 minutes kind of a bummer.
01:34:41.000Yeah, no, he's like, it's so creepy and annoying.
01:34:45.000And then, and he's also been caught misrepresenting data multiple different times.
01:34:49.000So I told him this, I said, yeah, I'm not really interested in debating you and you're super slippery and I've seen you lie about data multiple times.
01:34:55.000And of course now, you know, it's actually because I'm too afraid.
01:35:36.000That's why so many people go to Russia and China to adopt their children, which is a lot easier and a lot quicker than going through the process in the United States.
01:35:45.000So I'm gonna read this next super chat, but I wanna say first and foremost, we were discussing some things before the show, and I don't care about people's opinions.
01:35:54.000If you tell me that you feel we should do this thing this way, I'll tell you why I disagree or whatever.
01:36:00.000But you can't tell someone their opinion is wrong.
01:36:02.000But Dane Miller says this dude left left the right and became extremely misinformed
01:36:07.000Thank you Tim for showing him the way been watching for a long time now. Keep up the good work
01:36:11.000Here's my first donation. Merry Christmas. So I think that There's one moment we've had where I think you were misinformed
01:36:18.000That's the Hunter Biden stuff in Burisma.
01:36:20.000And if you didn't know and you know, that's fine.
01:36:24.000My opinion on whether or not Joe Biden is a bad person is my opinion.
01:36:35.000Tom says, Tim, did you hear about the 1.95 million Chinese Communist Party members embedded with Western governments or corporations that got exposed the other day?
01:36:42.000I did hear about that, and I'm sort of waiting on it because two things.
01:36:48.000Have you noticed the US media kind of not reporting on it?
01:36:52.000Yeah, the British and Australian press are going crazy with this.
01:36:58.000I mean, we're talking about thousands of communist Chinese party members infiltrating institutions of influence all over the world.
01:37:06.000We're talking about individuals being a part of ... making the vaccine a hundred twenty-three communist ... Chinese party me party members were on this list that helped ... make the covid-19 vaccine and again when we look at China and ... their coronavirus records there's a lot to worry about ... here but when it comes to intellectual property being ... stolen when it comes to even these these Chinese agents ... working inside of the British consulate.
01:37:30.000We're talking about huge implications that are extremely vast.
01:38:07.000We're still live though this time, because I switched to the satellite internet, so we're still streaming even though the power cut out.
01:38:13.000You know what we're gonna have to do, because this is a new thing, but it is, the wind was so loud, we heard it in here, people are mentioning in super chat, the wind is probably causing surges, which is resulting in outages, so, welcome to living in the mountains.
01:39:07.000Like, you're sitting there, and you're hanging out with your friends, and you're all drinking your beers, and you're talking about the economy, and your kid walks up, and he's seven years old, and then your kid stops, and he's listening, and you say, you know, one of the problems we have is we need more buying power for the working class and the lower class, but if they're only making ten bucks an hour, you know, we need to figure out how to get those wages up.
01:39:26.000And he goes, the government should just make it so that you have to pay them more.
01:39:30.000And you're like, okay, you can't just say that, like, the money doesn't exist.
01:39:35.000If a small business doesn't have the money to pay people, they can't just do it.
01:39:39.000But if the government says it, then they have to pay it.
01:39:41.000It's like, okay, dude, you need to sit down.
01:39:43.000I think there are benefits to increasing the minimum wage, as I mentioned earlier.
01:39:47.000It means that if everyone in the US is getting paid the same, They can buy foreign goods because the labor in other countries doesn't change.
01:39:54.000And if, say, the minimum wage increases in a big city, it's easier for the people in the big city to buy goods that are produced in lower cost-of-living areas.
01:40:03.000So that's one benefit to a national minimum wage increase.
01:40:06.000The problem is, it has to be done in such a way that doesn't just shock the system and result in businesses shutting down, which is, I think, what they will probably end up doing.
01:40:14.000Well, I think there's a reason the super powerful corporations are always calling for more taxes and regulations.
01:40:20.000It's because it's going to help them out in the long run.
01:40:47.000Maybe that's what they're referring to, the new deal, the new trade agreement.
01:40:50.000Well, there's probably going to be a lot of tariffs.
01:40:51.000There's going to be probably less of a trade war between China and the United States with a Biden presidency, and I think we're going to see that.
01:40:58.000As we heard from Di Dongsheng, it is tremendous good news that Trump lost, wink wink, as the audience laughs, because they're the ones who helped Hunter Biden become as wealthy as he is.
01:41:40.000I mean, I care about social issues, but I also don't want the government.
01:41:43.000Gone false says, I really feel like Hunter is trolling.
01:41:46.000When he was full on conservative, he didn't sound so flamboyant.
01:41:49.000Maybe he is infiltrating the left or being a lefty, some sort of sickness or being a tribal or, or as being tribal contributes to this factor.
01:42:47.000We have a tweet, a message from Iyahi Gusak, who's Ukrainian, who basically said the things I was saying about Ukraine were well known before it was reported in the U.S.
01:43:38.000You know, it was, yeah, they emailed the State Department, then Joe Biden went and intervened.
01:43:41.000It's funny how Joe Biden, as soon as Obama and Biden get into office, and Biden's put in charge of the operations in Iraq, His brother gets these contracts.
01:43:51.000Politico wrote an article called Biden Inc.
01:43:54.000that maps out Joe Biden's positions and how his family is just magically right there to get all of the benefits from it for 50 years.
01:44:13.000It's like, no, dude, that's still, you know, you're putting any money from the government to your companies with your control is a conflict of interest, and you can't do that.
01:44:19.000I also think people like Trump, I said this before, have a kind of capitalist corruption to them.
01:44:24.000I don't know if that's the right way to put it, but to put it simply, You guys ever see Back to School, I think that's the name of the movie, with Rodney Dangerfield?
01:44:31.000There's that scene where he's in the college, and the professor's like, you know, giving a lecture on how to make widgets or whatever, and then he's like, this is all wrong!
01:44:39.000And he goes on and explains how you actually run a business, because he's like this rich guy who went to college, and he's talking about, you gotta save a couple bucks to grease the wheels of the inspector who's gonna come in, basically breaking down the dirty things these businesses do to make a ton of money.
01:44:50.000Along the lines of Trump lining his own pockets with his political savvy, is him running his own personal Twitter account.
01:45:26.000But I don't think that Donald Trump— Yeah, AOC is her personal account.
01:45:29.000Yeah, Donald Trump gaining fame— That's what she uses.
01:45:31.000—from the Twitter account, I don't think is— But building—that's an actual business tool.
01:45:34.000Like, building that as an asset is kind of like, should politicians be building their assets like— Well, you want to make an argument about politicians shouldn't be allowed to make any money outside of public pay, and their pay should be tied to the median income in this country.
01:45:47.000I'll have a conversation with you about that.
01:45:49.000Or tied to a public— account of some sort.
01:45:52.000No, no, no, I'm not worried about that.
01:46:03.000If the government gets shut down, they don't get paid either.
01:46:05.000In order to raise their salary, they have to raise the median salary of the United States.
01:46:09.000I'm not literally advocating for this because there's actually arguments for why we should
01:46:12.000pay politicians ridiculous sums of money.
01:46:15.000Because we don't want them to be incentivized to do things outside.
01:46:18.000If, like, we told a politician, after you retire, you're guaranteed, like, a ridiculous sum of money, they're gonna be like, why would I risk losing this?
01:46:25.000They won't be going to Raytheon or Monsanto.
01:46:31.000One of the arguments is tie their salaries to the median salary of the United States and they'll work really hard to get that median salary up and they'll be advocating for analysis and is it up now?
01:46:42.000Average worker salaries have to be up.
01:46:44.000But I don't even know if that's a good idea, because then they'll just be like, I don't care if I get paid or not.
01:46:49.000You'll only get millionaires and billionaires who are actually in office then, the people who don't care about the money.
01:46:54.000So I think that was something Andrew Yang brought up, that if we give politicians a ridiculous sum of money, you'll have middle class people be like, that's a good job, and I wouldn't want to risk it.
01:47:03.000And then you'll actually have an incentive for people to want to stay there.
01:47:06.000It's an argument people don't understand about non-profits too.
01:47:09.000People complain that non-profit CEOs get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:47:35.000China Crypto says, Tim, this guy has no idea how economics works, nor has he any idea of how the world works.
01:47:42.000Insane and insanely dumb, super low IQ people being KOLs is one of the reasons why social media is making the average IQ of the mass lower.
01:47:49.000Now, I just want to mention, if you're saying you left the right and you're coming on my show, you know, I apologize if people are going to be ragging on you.
01:47:58.000You know, my little motto is the guy you love to hate.
01:48:01.000So that's everywhere I go, I get hate.
01:48:13.000Uh, Incendiate Media says, Hunter is the classic example of left-winger who simply thought he was right-wing because the left told him he was.
01:48:25.000If you're advocating for the traditional family, I would say... Well, no, because I'm not a lefty.
01:48:29.000I have some positions that are in line with the right wing.
01:48:31.000Because, like, I would argue that I'm more pro-life, too, for example.
01:48:35.000Although the way to solve that, some people say I'm still technically pro-choice, I guess.
01:48:39.000But, I mean, yeah, no, I go after both sides.
01:48:44.000There's a lot of... A lot of people are commenting on me going off on the Zelensky thing, the Ukraine thing.
01:48:50.000Yeah, I would say that I definitely need to do a little more research into that, but I feel like that's literally the only little scuffle we had.
01:48:56.000But you see, you walked into this one because you called it misinformation.
01:49:00.000And when I said you were wrong, you kept saying no.
01:49:02.000Well, I had heard completely the contrary to the... I had heard that... Listen, I'm not able to fact check this either, so I want to look this up myself as well.
01:49:14.000I know you said other people are saying it's missing context.
01:49:17.000I'd like to know what that context is.
01:49:18.000The context is that it was in line with U.S.
01:49:22.000policy that Victor Shokin be removed from his post as prosecutor in, I think it was Prosecutor General actually, in Ukraine because he was viewed to be corrupt.
01:49:32.000I mean, yeah, however, it's definitely something I'll look into for sure.
01:49:34.000You know, look, if Barack Obama and Joe Biden are doing crooked things to benefit themselves or Obama turns a blind eye, they can just say, yeah, it was in line with policy because Biden is the vice president and he's doing it.
01:49:48.000They froze this guy's assets and then eventually they unfroze him.
01:49:53.000So if anything, what Joe Biden did was make sure this guy had a free couple of years with no heat on his back.
01:49:59.000But then when Trump got in, this guy fled to Monaco.
01:50:20.000It's like there's so much going on to where if you knew about the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, the Obama funding, the rebels in Syria, the Qatar-Turkey pipeline funding rebels in Syria, no-fly zones over Syria, targeting Russia, the conflict in Libya, the natural gas monopoly out of Gazprom, you know, all of this stuff ties together.
01:50:39.000It sounds like Hunter Biden was placed there when you put all these pieces together.
01:50:45.000I'm just saying that to me sounds like a possibility.
01:50:49.000They needed assets in Ukrainian natural gas and energy because they were working on this plan to subvert Russia's monopoly.
01:50:56.000So when Michael Flynn, and I learned this from Luke, essentially exposed that Obama was arming rebels, that's why they accused him of working with the Russians.
01:51:04.000Because they're like, why is he doing this?
01:51:06.000Syria only refused to allow us to build the pipeline because they said Russia told them not to let us do it.
01:51:11.000Then they wanted to subvert our attempt at building a pipeline.
01:51:14.000Then you get this energy company in Ukraine, which is in the key position to be the company distributing the gas into Europe once they shut down the Russian monopoly.
01:51:24.000And it's like, there's Joe Biden's son, ready for that sweet, sweet skrill as soon as that pipeline's finished.
01:51:29.000And there was a big revolution in Ukraine to try to decouple Ukraine from Russia and make it more favorable towards Europe and the European Union.
01:51:37.000And it caused a separatist movement which led to what some called a civil war briefly and I was there when it started.
01:51:42.000They exploited some corruption that was happening between the Russians and the Ukrainians and they replaced it with new corruption that's happening right now between Europeans and Americans and Ukraine right now.
01:51:51.000And when you go to Ukraine, I mean, Those people are getting exploited and robbed left and right by just so much corruption that it's absolutely mind-boggling to see it happen there to the extent that it does.
01:52:06.000One way to look at it is European countries are being strangled when it comes to natural gas, and they need these resources.
01:52:13.000They need to have more access to energy.
01:52:16.000So the US is desperately trying to assist its allies in getting energy there, and these people and these different families are set to make a ton of cash off of it.
01:52:27.000I truly think Donald Trump is outside the system, anti-establishment.
01:52:31.000I don't think he's the most selfless person in the world.
01:52:34.000I think his family is going to benefit greatly in some capacities.
01:52:37.000But I do think Trump's net worth has dropped dramatically.
01:52:39.000I think, you know, I think several hundred million dollars since he became president.
01:52:43.000So if I ultimately had to make a choice between corrupt 47-year Democrat politician responsible for most of the, or I should say, some of the racist laws the left has been complaining about, whose brother and son have somehow gotten rich, perfectly in line with Joe Biden's, like, oversight, and then I look at Donald Trump, who's only been in office for now just under four years and lost net worth to a significant degree, I'm gonna have to go with the Trump guy.
01:53:08.000Especially when he's trying to end the wars and Joe Biden was part of the administration that, like, created tons more.
01:53:13.000But also very interestingly, Trump was being investigated almost the entire time that he was in office.
01:53:19.000There was a whole Mueller investigation going through every little thing he did.
01:53:23.000And I remember listening to NPR just yesterday and they were talking about, well, of course we're going to have to get all the attorney generals, we're going to charge Trump with so many different charges, and then one of the legal experts like, well, he's been under complete investigation for a Russian collusion and they went through everything and they didn't really find that much.
01:53:41.000And comparatively, if you look at institutionalized politicians that have been there for 50 years, like Joe Biden, there's a lot more corruption, a lot more wheeling and dealing than there is with Donald Trump, who just kind of came into this swamp.
01:53:54.000I think it's all swamp monsters, as far as I can see.
01:54:13.000Like corporations, like only a small percentage are massive multinationals.
01:54:16.000Well, like Trump's clearly not in favor of Amazon and like Facebook.
01:54:21.000Sure, but by giving tax cuts to these corporations, it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
01:54:25.000And I mean, we Americans- It wasn't supposed to do.
01:54:27.000It was supposed to bring back more companies, more corporations back from overseas.
01:54:32.000It was either that or it was to encourage, I think it was probably both, to bring companies from overseas and to encourage more people to open their businesses here in America.
01:54:41.000With the tariffs and the tax cuts, Ford brought back $3 billion into Michigan.
01:54:45.000I just know that overall it really didn't do what it was intended to do and now us American taxpayers are going to be the ones to foot the bill.
01:54:52.000Yeah, there's tons of deficit spending.
01:54:54.000Trump did campaign on lowering the deficit and the debt.
01:55:40.000I think we're going to find that out soon.
01:55:43.000Donald Trump was engaging in, I would say, well I don't want to say substantially, but I think a significant number more drone strikes than Obama was.
01:55:52.000And Trump did probably the stupidest thing I think anybody could do in bringing on John Bolton.
01:55:57.000That guy, John Bolton was like, this time next year with his bushy mustache, we're gonna be celebrating in Tehran!
01:56:03.000It's like, wow, first of all, if you really wanted to declare war on Iran, you wouldn't go and announce we're going to be invaded in your city in a year.
01:56:10.000Second of all, Iran, people don't realize this too.
01:56:30.000So, take a look at the military bases that we've been building, and it's like, perfectly set up around Iran.
01:56:35.000So then Trump decides to bring on the one guy who wants to snap his fingers and make it all worse.
01:56:40.000Not to mention, you know, a lot of conservatives are cheering about, you know, the strikes targeting the nuclear scientists and Soleimani and stuff, and it's like, look, I'm not going to pretend to have access to classified information, but I'm definitely anti-escalation of conflict and war, so I'm never going to say that's a good thing.
01:56:56.000However, Iran has been terrorizing people in, you know, the Persian Gulf.
01:57:27.000The sphere of influence of Iran spread because of the first, because of the latest Iraq war, which is another contributing factor to understand here.
01:57:35.000The Shah was the democratically elected president and then they installed Ayatollah Khomeini.
01:57:45.000Well, before that happened, Iran was kind of a civilized Western favorite kind of country where there wasn't any burqa mandates, there wasn't any Islamic law, there wasn't any Sharia law.
01:57:59.000People were able to live like they were able to live in Europe.
01:58:03.000It used to be the left that was anti-Deep State, and it was like, you know, I think the Nation.com, like the lefty publication, and people like Glenn Greenwald were like, the Deep State, the intelligence agencies, that's why they loved Snowden, that's why they loved Assange.
01:58:13.000fingerprints of the quote deep state Interesting it used to be the left that was anti deep state
01:58:20.000and it was like, you know I think the nation calm with lefty publication and people
01:58:24.000like Glenn Greenwald were like the deep state intelligence agencies
01:58:27.000That's why they loved snow. That's why they loved Assange now. It's like
01:58:31.000The left is pro deep state basically It went from the Deep State is a conspiracy to, thank God the Deep State has stopped Trump.
01:58:39.000Well, they're cheering on John Bolton.
01:58:41.000I remember seeing a whole bunch of Democrats and liberals on Twitter like, yes, John Bolton, he's going to expose the corruption and take down Donald Trump.
01:58:47.000I'm like, do you know who John Bolton is and his long track record of just murder?
01:58:53.000Like, John Bolton is like, what was the movie where the guy rides the nuclear bomb down?
02:00:30.000So you're hearing different beeping because they're both beeping at the same time.
02:00:33.000But I think we need more perspectives, more opinions.
02:00:35.000I think we need to talk to each other more than ever.
02:00:37.000And I thank you for coming here and being able to share your point of view and your perspective and your opinions that we would never understand if it wasn't for you coming here.
02:00:49.000One person commented that they think the only reason you've changed your opinion on social issues is because you have a big channel and you're willing to shave off a certain number of supporters if it means you don't get banned.
02:02:05.000Rob Gratz says, Tim, I'm becoming an architect and I can speak on plans to truly fix these neighborhoods through investment and pathways to ownership within the community to help redlined areas.
02:02:25.000You know, honestly, I would have liked to go on a lot longer, but considering the power keeps shutting off, I think... That's like the eighth time, I think.
02:03:33.000Outlaw Bear says this is the best TimCast IRL ever because he's taking an uninformed normie and breaking him down the news guard and breaking him down the news guard and breaking him down with news guard in real time.
02:03:44.000Hunter was out of his league tonight like Hunter B in China.
02:06:57.000And your audience has heard about it intensely.
02:06:59.000I've read four years of news from all of the mainstream outlets to Ukrainian outlets to even Russian attempts at propaganda and the sworn affidavits.
02:07:11.000There was one period where they were trying to get Biden named as a wanted felon and a court issued a ruling.
02:07:17.000There was an official ruling from a court in Ukraine that said Ukrainians did interfere in the 2016 election to hurt Donald Trump.
02:07:24.000That was the New York Times reporting that.
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02:09:38.000Somebody came in, and it was the guest for the show, and I walked up.