Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - RFK JR Prepares Independent Run SPIKING Democrats, HELPING TRUMP w-Rich Baris

00:00:00.000 This is, oh, here we go.

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00:00:17.000 RFK Jr.

00:00:17.000 is preparing an independent run.

00:00:18.000 So, say, the reports.

00:00:20.000 And based on the polling data, it looks like this will be a major spike for Democrats.

00:00:27.000 And now Ross Perot is trending on Twitter.

00:00:29.000 But I like RFK Jr.

00:00:31.000 I think he knows what he's doing and should be interesting.

00:00:34.000 Obviously, there was very, very big news.

00:00:36.000 There's not much to add to it, but rest in peace, Senator Feinstein.

00:00:40.000 She passed away.

00:00:41.000 That's the news, you know, sad story, but this is what happens, people get old, they pass on, so I can give respect to the public service, but outside of that, I must be honest, I am no fan of the professional lives of 99% of these people who are in Congress anyway, so human respect, rest in peace, Dianne Feinstein.

00:01:01.000 And I believe Gavin Newsom is going to be choosing a replacement, which will be interesting because now you've got Bob Menendez on the ropes.

00:01:09.000 They want him to resign.

00:01:10.000 He's not gonna.

00:01:10.000 With Feinstein out, this weakens Democratic control of the Senate, but I think they'll be fine.

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00:03:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Rich Barris.

00:03:12.000 It's good to be back, Tim.

00:03:13.000 Thanks for having me.

00:03:14.000 Who are you?

00:03:14.000 What do you do?

00:03:16.000 Pollster, People's Pundit.

00:03:18.000 I'm thinking about this RFK thing.

00:03:21.000 Can I just start rolling on it?

00:03:22.000 Well, it is really interesting that every so often we have a guest perfectly aligned with the big story, and right now the big story is that RFK is planning to run as an independent, and then we have The people's pundit here to talk about polling, but we'll get into it in a second.

00:03:37.000 We'll run through these introductions.

00:03:39.000 So we've got Phil Labonte hanging out.

00:03:41.000 Hello, everybody.

00:03:41.000 My name is Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, very failed musician, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:03:48.000 Cheers.

00:03:48.000 Thank you, Rockstar.

00:03:49.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:03:50.000 It's never going to get old.

00:03:50.000 Happy to be here.

00:03:51.000 I'm looking forward to it.

00:03:52.000 It's so much fun.

00:03:52.000 Yeah, it is.

00:03:53.000 It just gets better and better with age.

00:03:55.000 Uh, well, Serge, take us home, because I want to hear about Rich's thoughts on this.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get started.

00:03:59.000 imserge.com, uh, yeah.

00:04:01.000 Here's the story from the post-millennial breaking!

00:04:04.000 RFK Jr.

00:04:05.000 plans to announce independent run for president.

00:04:08.000 Kennedy plans to make the announcement on October 9th in Philadelphia.

00:04:11.000 Good place to do it.

00:04:12.000 According to Mediaite, Kennedy plans to make the announcement October 9th in Philly, with a text message viewed by the outlet stating that his campaign is planning attack ads against the Democrat National Committee to pave the way for the announcement.

00:04:25.000 Bobby feels the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy, so an independent run is the only way to go.

00:04:31.000 On Saturday, New York Times published a piece stating that Kennedy met with Libertarian Party Chair Angela McArdle in July at a Memphis conference.

00:04:40.000 He emphasized that he has committed to running as a Democrat, but said that he considered himself very libertarian.

00:04:47.000 McArdle said, adding, we are aligned on a lot of issues, including the threat of the deep state.

00:04:51.000 Here's what I think.

00:04:53.000 I think they gave Kennedy the middle finger, which they should not have done.

00:04:58.000 He's polling decently.

00:04:59.000 I mean, polls have him in a wide range from 7% up to 25%.

00:05:02.000 I think you were saying before the show that 7% is a little low, 25% is a little high.

00:05:07.000 But if he runs as an independent and he goes after the DNC over this, he is spiking the Democratic Party.

00:05:13.000 It's going to help Trump.

00:05:15.000 This is a couple of things.

00:05:17.000 One, if you're Trump, though, we had been asking, if your guy doesn't get the nomination, what are you going to do?

00:05:23.000 Of Republicans?

00:05:24.000 Of everyone.

00:05:24.000 Of Republicans? Of all, everyone. Of everyone? Everyone. So if for the Democrats, people who

00:05:29.000 chose RFK, 30 something percent for months have said, well, if it's Trump, I'll vote for Trump.

00:05:36.000 So if you're Trump, you're looking at it, you're like, I want some soon to be disaffected RFK voters, like Bernie voters in 2016.

00:05:43.000 So there's that part of it.

00:05:45.000 There is scant polling on this.

00:05:46.000 We're going to poll this.

00:05:47.000 We're going to poll this and we're going to poll this soon to see, you know, Biden, the Democrat, Trump, the Republican, and of RFK, the Independent.

00:05:56.000 And we'll put West in there to see what it really, you know, that's going to happen.

00:06:00.000 He'll be on the ballot.

00:06:00.000 Cornell?

00:06:02.000 Oh yeah, I mean, Democrats are gonna get spiked across the board!

00:06:05.000 If this really goes... Yeah, I mean, if this goes bad for Democrats, which, you know, it may not.

00:06:11.000 I mean, I'll wait to see what the data says, but, you know, if it does, you're looking at... The Ross Perot analogy's accurate, then, folks.

00:06:18.000 You know what would be really hilarious, though?

00:06:20.000 There's a lot, you know, Mike Cernovich has got a series of tweets that we're going to talk about in a second, very dire ones.

00:06:24.000 But, you know, this fear of losing in 2024, and I'm just kind of like, could you imagine if it's like Donald Trump gets 43% of the vote, but Biden, because of Cornel West and RFK, only gets like 39?

00:06:37.000 And he'll wind up, Tim, he'd win states Republicans don't win, if that happens.

00:06:42.000 Okay.

00:06:43.000 No, I mean Trump.

00:06:44.000 He would take like Maine, you know, he's definitely going to take Maine.

00:06:47.000 There would be some states that are really uncomfortable.

00:06:51.000 So let's think about, okay, Maine.

00:06:53.000 Yeah.

00:06:54.000 What percentage does the Republican candidate get in Maine on average for the president?

00:06:58.000 Depends.

00:06:59.000 If you're Donald Trump, you get pretty close.

00:07:01.000 You take the second congressional district and you can get within Eight points, usually.

00:07:06.000 Which doesn't sound like a lot, but Maine doesn't have a big population.

00:07:10.000 So what did we have?

00:07:12.000 So that means Trump's at, where does that, within eight points, what does that put him at?

00:07:16.000 46 to Biden's 54?

00:07:17.000 I think it was, yeah, I think he got 44 last time, something like that.

00:07:22.000 And then Biden ended up with like 42 or 43?

00:07:25.000 Well, no 50 52 in May Wow.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, so well, I mean, I was I didn't realize he lost that much of the remaining vote Yeah, if though let's say West is on there.

00:07:36.000 He takes four some RFK takes ten and then you're looking at Biden Biden with 38 Trump wins Maine with 45 percent.

00:07:44.000 This is a game-changer You mentioned Ross Perot and what happened in 92.

00:07:47.000 I don't know if people listening even know the Ross Perot story, but he came out of nowhere, out of the business sector, and ran for president in 1992 against George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton.

00:07:55.000 And everyone expected George Herbert Walker Bush to win his second term as president, and he was the incumbent.

00:07:59.000 But Ross Perot split the vote and then Clinton took it.

00:08:03.000 Yeah, Clinton never was elected with a majority.

00:08:05.000 People don't really get it.

00:08:06.000 They look back on him.

00:08:09.000 Less than Trump, right?

00:08:10.000 Oh, way less, 44%.

00:08:11.000 They look back at him, and he's got a high hindsight approval rating, so people are like, oh, well, he must have.

00:08:16.000 They just think he blazed right past Bush and then Dole.

00:08:19.000 He didn't.

00:08:20.000 There is, though, something that's nagging me in the back of my mind, though.

00:08:24.000 He's an anti-establishment guy.

00:08:26.000 And when you have two anti-establishment guys, it just... I'm looking at it as a lane, you know?

00:08:32.000 We'll see.

00:08:32.000 I disagree, I disagree.

00:08:34.000 There are leftist anti-establishments.

00:08:36.000 That's true.

00:08:37.000 But, like, very few.

00:08:40.000 And what I think you have...

00:08:43.000 2016, where was I?

00:08:43.000 I said in 2016, I'm not voting for Trump.

00:08:47.000 2015, I'm not voting for Trump.

00:08:48.000 2017, 2018, 2019, then 2020, Trump put out his list of what his plan was, and then I said, like, if this is Trump's plan, these agenda items, I agree with too much of this to honestly say I would vote against it.

00:09:02.000 And considering they're trying to run Joe Biden, and we know what Biden's all about, I cannot honestly say I could support the Democratic Party.

00:09:08.000 There were a lot of people who are still Democrats who voted in 2020 for Biden who are now saying it was a mistake.

00:09:14.000 But some of these people are saying, please let it be RFK or literally anyone else.

00:09:19.000 They are begging Biden not to be there.

00:09:22.000 If Biden is the nominee and RFK runs an independent, there are people who are Democrats who are upset about what happened with Joe Biden, upset at the state of the country, but still won't vote for Trump.

00:09:32.000 They'll either not vote West or vote RFK.

00:09:36.000 Trump's floor is solid.

00:09:38.000 Trump's bottom end is locked in.

00:09:41.000 You are like the MAGA people.

00:09:43.000 You think so?

00:09:43.000 I mean, I don't think he works out, you know.

00:09:45.000 The MAGA people are just, they're not going to change no matter what.

00:09:49.000 I mean, he was right when he said, you know, I could go out in Fifth Avenue and shoot someone and they would still vote for him.

00:09:55.000 That is still the case.

00:09:56.000 The people that love Donald Trump love him to death.

00:09:59.000 I don't think that there's a whole lot of chance for Joe Biden if it's split up between Kennedy and West.

00:10:07.000 you know, between Kennedy and I forget what his name is.

00:10:10.000 We were just talking about him.

00:10:11.000 West West.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, West. I mean, though, they will split the Democrat.

00:10:14.000 And I don't like Trump vote up.

00:10:17.000 And I think enough where Trump would get it.

00:10:20.000 Now, this is this is just talking a year and a half or a year and change early.

00:10:24.000 So obviously all this can change.

00:10:26.000 And this is just my first impression.

00:10:27.000 But I I'm confident that Donald Trump's floor isn't changing.

00:10:33.000 You know, so. Yeah.

00:10:35.000 Can let me just point out what because nobody talks about this,

00:10:38.000 what they did to this guy.

00:10:40.000 Changing the schedule, front-loading South Carolina.

00:10:43.000 The first-in-nation primary and caucus status is out.

00:10:47.000 That's done.

00:10:48.000 We're talking about a culture, a heritage that went on for years.

00:10:52.000 There's a reason why.

00:10:54.000 Joe Biden's state is South Carolina.

00:10:56.000 That's his solid early state contest.

00:11:00.000 And they front-loaded it on the schedule, something that nobody would ever think they would do.

00:11:04.000 Oh, they voted early?

00:11:05.000 They moved the vote?

00:11:06.000 They moved it on the calendar.

00:11:07.000 So they drew... Iowa no longer is the first in the nation contest, and New Hampshire is no longer the first in the nation primary.

00:11:15.000 It's a big move.

00:11:15.000 They did that intentionally or assumedly to do it before RFK could even campaign?

00:11:20.000 They want to get the vote?

00:11:21.000 Yes, they wanted Joe Biden to have a win right away.

00:11:25.000 And small states are cheaper to compete in.

00:11:28.000 Let me pull up this poll and we got 538 right here.

00:11:30.000 This is the Democratic primary polls, even though there probably isn't going to be one, but this is interesting.

00:11:34.000 They've got Kennedy in second place with 15%.

00:11:37.000 This is McLaughlin and Associates.

00:11:39.000 ABC News and the Washington Post doesn't have Kennedy.

00:11:42.000 They have Biden versus Harris, which is really interesting.

00:11:44.000 Don't know why they would do that.

00:11:45.000 Biden beats Harris by 30 points.

00:11:47.000 Wow.

00:11:48.000 And then we have Harris X with Kennedy at 20% and the second poll at 16.

00:11:53.000 We have Emerson with Kennedy at 14, Yugov with Kennedy at 7, and Rasmussen with Kennedy at 25.

00:11:59.000 University of New Hampshire for the primary in New Hampshire has Kennedy at 9.

00:12:03.000 Then you've got 19, 15, 14 as the remaining polls.

00:12:05.000 All of these polls show Kennedy in second place in the double digits.

00:12:08.000 So about 14, 15 seems reasonable for Kennedy.

00:12:11.000 We were at 15 last time.

00:12:13.000 Our last poll, we're about to do another national.

00:12:15.000 We tried to do one a month.

00:12:17.000 He was at 15.

00:12:17.000 I hope he runs.

00:12:19.000 It would just be the most hilarious thing in the world if Trump gets 43% nationally and then wins.

00:12:24.000 With a felony.

00:12:26.000 It reminds me of when Bernie Sanders in 2016 was getting pushed out by Hillary and the DNC and he didn't go independent.

00:12:34.000 Now, RFK is going independent.

00:12:36.000 I thought at the time Bernie was going to kowtow to the DNC and then they were going to win.

00:12:40.000 But they didn't win.

00:12:41.000 So my projection ability is like whacked since 2016.

00:12:45.000 I thought for sure the deep state was taking it.

00:12:47.000 And for Trump to come out on top was shocking.

00:12:49.000 So maybe that can happen again.

00:12:51.000 It's funny that all these people were crying because the deep state didn't win in 2016.

00:12:56.000 Like those videos of all the Democrats crying.

00:12:57.000 It's like, oh no, the CIA lost an election.

00:13:00.000 The raincoat girl.

00:13:02.000 No, I still see the picture.

00:13:07.000 What are you screaming for?

00:13:08.000 What do you care? 1.00

00:13:09.000 These people are insane! 1.00

00:13:12.000 But I guess, whatever. 0.98

00:13:13.000 I don't know what happened in their lives where they really thought that Trump was the apocalypse, you know?

00:13:18.000 Right now, the Democrats are arresting lawyers.

00:13:21.000 They're arresting protesters, putting them on 20 years.

00:13:25.000 They're arresting their political opposition.

00:13:28.000 And they're just like, this is fine.

00:13:29.000 I'm like, bro, if anyone has a right to scream, no.

00:13:31.000 They don't even want to admit that it's happening.

00:13:33.000 Most of my friends that are left-leaning or that come from the music industry or whatever, they don't admit that, or they refuse to acknowledge that there are political persecutions.

00:13:44.000 They're like, oh, well, it's fine because it's Trump, or well, they did this, or they did that.

00:13:48.000 And the spirit of the law, the intent of the law is totally Man, it's disturbing stuff. 0.96

00:13:52.000 to them. It's just, oh, the government said they did something wrong. I don't like those

00:13:57.000 people so the government must be right. It is totally un- like the unthinking, completely

00:14:03.000 knee-jerk gut react. Excuse me. So. Man, it's disturbing stuff. Unimpeded, I think. RFK

00:14:13.000 goes independent, stakes votes away from decrepit Joe Biden, Democrats lose, Trump wins, but

00:14:17.000 I don't see an unimpeded course in the future.

00:14:20.000 I mean, but hold on, if he runs as an independent and he really does get 14, let's say 15% right now of the Democratic vote, so this means that the correlation, what would the correlation be to the general vote?

00:14:35.000 Like 7%? 6%?

00:14:37.000 Well, that depends on turnout.

00:14:39.000 The electorate is getting more Republican, so once upon a time it would be D plus 3 in 2016, something like that.

00:14:46.000 2020 was even R plus 1.

00:14:47.000 Wow.

00:14:49.000 In the presidential election.

00:14:51.000 Yeah, and this is something that's big and people have to talk about it.

00:14:54.000 The higher the turnout, the more Republican the electorates are going to be now.

00:14:59.000 That is, for the first time in my life, I've never seen that before.

00:15:02.000 It always was. 0.98

00:15:03.000 Republicans biting their fingernails, hoping that young people don't vote, you know, non-whites. 0.84

00:15:09.000 But it's not going to be two to one.

00:15:10.000 It's not going to be like five percent.

00:15:12.000 It's probably going to be around half to maybe like forty five percent.

00:15:16.000 Yeah.

00:15:17.000 I mean, so so less than half.

00:15:19.000 If if RFK is pulling on the Democrat side around 15 in the general election, he might pull about six, seven points away from Joe Biden.

00:15:26.000 Yeah, let's say the 38-40% of the electorate, you know, something like that.

00:15:30.000 There you go.

00:15:31.000 Yeah.

00:15:31.000 So maybe 6%.

00:15:32.000 6%.

00:15:32.000 Not quite a third, but a little bit more.

00:15:34.000 Look at this.

00:15:36.000 So he pulled up the 1992 election.

00:15:38.000 Bill Clinton, 43%.

00:15:40.000 And the funny thing is, were people, I'm asking this legitimately, were people complaining that he did not get the majority?

00:15:48.000 You mean back then?

00:15:49.000 Yeah.

00:15:50.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:15:52.000 Because right now, they're all like, Trump won without getting, you know, in 2016, he didn't get the popular vote.

00:15:57.000 Oh, geez.

00:15:59.000 Okay, well, imagine what's going to happen if RFK runs, splits the Democratic vote and Trump wins with 43%.

00:16:05.000 There was a poll the other day about abolishing the Electoral College.

00:16:08.000 Same thing with this.

00:16:09.000 It goes back and forth depending on who is at the butt end of the stick, right?

00:16:14.000 So in 2000, Bush won, but he lost a popular vote.

00:16:18.000 Democrats wanted to abolish the Electoral College.

00:16:21.000 In 2004, it looked like Bush would win the popular vote.

00:16:26.000 Then they wanted to keep the Electoral College.

00:16:28.000 I mean, it just goes back and forth no matter who.

00:16:30.000 And Gallup has been doing that for years.

00:16:32.000 That's why when something's in place like that, it shouldn't be up for national referendum.

00:16:37.000 So I hate those polls.

00:16:38.000 They're totally irrelevant.

00:16:39.000 Who cares if somebody supports the Electoral College or not?

00:16:42.000 There's a reason for it.

00:16:43.000 We don't want a civil war or upheaval.

00:16:44.000 Let's keep it.

00:16:45.000 You know, so this can happen again, though.

00:16:49.000 So I'm glad you pulled that up because I tell people this when we're looking at Trump's write-in vote.

00:16:55.000 People who are voting for Trump in the primary say, if the man is not nominated, I will either write his name in some space on the ballot, or I will not vote.

00:17:04.000 And it's 30 plus percent.

00:17:06.000 Do those count?

00:17:07.000 Those write-ins?

00:17:09.000 You won't see them that night.

00:17:11.000 They won't count them that night.

00:17:12.000 But yes, eventually you'll see them.

00:17:15.000 I want to pull up these tweets from Mike Cernovich talking about what happens when we lose in 2024.

00:17:22.000 Now, I certainly think Mike is a bit, um, what's the right word?

00:17:26.000 These tweets are very, very, very serious.

00:17:29.000 I believe they may be a bit aggressive, but I think the spirit of them is correct.

00:17:34.000 Now that I've given you that warning, you'll understand when I read them for you.

00:17:38.000 Mike Cernovich tweeted, When we lose in 2024, I'll be hunted down and murdered by the regime.

00:17:44.000 Have already had this talk with my family. 0.54

00:17:46.000 All these goober conservatives think they'll be okay.

00:17:49.000 They won't.

00:17:50.000 Look up the Bolshevik Revolution. 0.86

00:17:52.000 Y'all gonna be imprisoned, and you people have no clue.

00:17:56.000 He was quote-tweeting, uh, himself.

00:17:58.000 He said in this tweet, Showing these older tweets as I tend to be ahead, years

00:18:03.000 usually on subjects, people attack me, and then years later copy my swag. Now I'll tell you the

00:18:07.000 future.

00:18:08.000 2024 is total defeat. The RNC isn't even running ads on Axe, let alone doing other

00:18:13.000 voter registration at scale. He then said, When we lose, he'll be hunted down.

00:18:19.000 And then he added this.

00:18:21.000 If you're a conservative with a large platform, have you talked to your family about how you're going to be framed for a crime to be killed in 2024 if Biden wins?

00:18:29.000 If you think this is hyperbole, you've not been paying attention.

00:18:32.000 2024 is life or death.

00:18:34.000 It's time to understand.

00:18:36.000 Well, I'll just show you Elijah Schaffer.

00:18:39.000 He responded saying, I've already begun taking precautions.

00:18:42.000 I'm international for a reason.

00:18:44.000 I find that to be a very interesting response from Mr. Schaffer.

00:18:49.000 And while I do think Mike's tweets may be a bit aggressive, It's not so- People misunderstand these conversations, because their view of the world is based on the movie.

00:18:59.000 And in movies, what happens is, the evil dictator, Supreme Emperor, takes power, and then appears in a ghastly image of the hood and goes, And then all of a sudden, all the good guys are just purged from existence.

00:19:12.000 That's not really how it happens.

00:19:14.000 What you need to understand about this stuff is, okay, so a tech entrepreneur in Baltimore was just beaten to death, raped, and murdered in her own home.

00:19:21.000 And the man who did it was known to the police because only a few days earlier, he had beaten, tortured, and raped a woman in front of her boyfriend, and then set them both on fire.

00:19:32.000 I say these things because, understand, that was for no reason.

00:19:36.000 When Mike Cernovich says, when we lose, these things will happen, perhaps a bit aggressive, as I stated.

00:19:42.000 Because, you know, we don't know what the time frame for kind of extremism will be.

00:19:46.000 But there are several things you need to understand.

00:19:49.000 We've got Chas Chop already happening.

00:19:51.000 We've got occupations already happening around the country.

00:19:55.000 These things don't happen overnight.

00:19:57.000 If you look to the American Revolution, the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre were years apart.

00:20:01.000 Lexington-Concord was 11 years after the start of the Revolutionary Period.

00:20:05.000 The actual start of the Revolutionary War took 11 years from the start of the period we determined to be revolutionary.

00:20:10.000 You get Chaz Chop in a matter of a couple years, you have autonomous zones. 0.70

00:20:14.000 We currently have Stop Cop City right now in Georgia, where hundreds of people went out and staged these acts of violence.

00:20:20.000 We have a hundred people in Philadelphia ransacking stores in total disregard for the law.

00:20:26.000 That's social breakdown and social disorder.

00:20:30.000 What I think would happen in the immediate is... I'll just put it this way.

00:20:34.000 Mike Cernovich is not wrong.

00:20:35.000 I don't think he'll be hunted down and murdered.

00:20:37.000 I think he'll be Julian Assanged.

00:20:39.000 People like Mike Cernovich, who pose a threat to the established order of the military-industrial complex and the neoconservative neolib military agenda, whatever you want to call it, you'll get Julian Assanged.

00:20:50.000 Meaning...

00:20:51.000 They're gonna accuse you like Russell Brand.

00:20:53.000 I would not be surprised if Russell Brand ends up getting convicted.

00:20:57.000 They've already found Donald Trump civilly liable for the most psychotic rape story imaginable.

00:21:02.000 They've already ordered the dissolution of Trump's companies, and he's facing 91 indictments.

00:21:06.000 Now, that's Trump.

00:21:07.000 But people keep saying this thing where it's like, I'll be okay.

00:21:09.000 Well, Aaron Danielson's not okay.

00:21:10.000 He took two to the chest.

00:21:11.000 He's no longer around.

00:21:14.000 Perhaps, again.

00:21:15.000 A bit aggressive. 0.99

00:21:16.000 Because I don't know if it's effective messaging to say, they're gonna kill you! 0.99

00:21:19.000 Ah! 0.75

00:21:19.000 They're screaming! 0.75

00:21:20.000 Well, look guys.

00:21:21.000 The reality is, dark days are in front of us.

00:21:24.000 How long this period takes, we don't know.

00:21:26.000 I actually don't think we're facing total defeat in 2024.

00:21:30.000 I disagree with Mike on this.

00:21:32.000 I respect his opinion.

00:21:32.000 I think he's very smart.

00:21:33.000 I think he does see ahead better than most.

00:21:36.000 But I do see a possibility for victory in 2024.

00:21:40.000 Especially now that RFK is running.

00:21:43.000 This changes the game substantially.

00:21:45.000 But just understand, even if Trump does win, it doesn't mean whatever is happening in this country ends.

00:21:50.000 When you have far-left extremists storming government property, firebombing things, when it is the norm for them to go on social media and threaten people with death, and the reason why we bring this story up first is because the next story we're talking about is the guy who threatened to blow up Andy Ngo's speaking event was arrested.

00:22:07.000 So there's still law and order, you know, a little bit.

00:22:09.000 Social order is breaking down when you look at San Francisco, when you look at Philadelphia, when you look at Chicago, New York, these flash mobs all over the place.

00:22:16.000 That shows social order breakdown.

00:22:18.000 And understand this.

00:22:20.000 What do you think the government does when social order breaks down?

00:22:24.000 Do you think that the government will come protect you when you are under attack by violent mobs of lawless rioters?

00:22:31.000 Look only to 2020 when, in the face, there are two big stories.

00:22:36.000 A woman was in her car surrounded by rioters screaming and banging on her car and she called 911. 0.95

00:22:41.000 And they said, what do you want us to do?

00:22:43.000 And she goes, they're attacking me.

00:22:44.000 What do I do?

00:22:44.000 I have my daughter in the car.

00:22:45.000 And they're like, ma'am, what do you want us to do?

00:22:47.000 Good luck.

00:22:49.000 Another guy in his apartment said that people were fighting in his lobby and the rioting was get there.

00:22:53.000 And he was told, sir, the city is under attack.

00:22:56.000 What would you have us do?

00:22:59.000 I love the writing of the game Fallout 3.

00:23:00.000 You guys, I think you're all familiar with it at this point, I talk about it a lot.

00:23:04.000 So, for those that aren't familiar, Fallout video game, I know it's fiction, but it's written by humans who are looking at what happens around the world and what they think may occur.

00:23:12.000 The video game is about a nuclear annihilation, nuclear war, wipes out the world, and then everyone goes into vaults, simplified version.

00:23:19.000 The government becomes something called the Enclave, the remnants of the United States government.

00:23:23.000 And you know what they do? 0.78

00:23:24.000 They shoot and kill you in the game.

00:23:26.000 And this is, I think, correct writing on the part of the game developers.

00:23:30.000 The U.S.

00:23:30.000 government will seek to preserve itself, and you are in the way.

00:23:34.000 So, when we begin seeing non-citizens being shipped into Staten Island, what do the police do?

00:23:41.000 Beat and arrest the residents of Staten Island.

00:23:44.000 They seek to preserve themselves by any means necessary, and you are in the way.

00:23:48.000 So what Mike is saying and my concerns are more so, It's not that Biden will get re-elected and order the police to execute Order 66.

00:23:57.000 It's that they're going to say, circle the wagons around government and destroy in any way possible anyone who threatens us.

00:24:07.000 If you want to know what's going to happen, you can look to what happened in the Cultural Revolution in China.

00:24:12.000 There is ample examples of what happens when the government has a change of what the fundamental principles that government stands for means and the way that the population reacts and the way that the government reacts.

00:24:29.000 We saw in 2020 a whole lot of rioting and a whole lot of stuff going on and the police could not and maybe they could have but they refused to do anything about it.

00:24:42.000 I don't see any reason why, if there is some other type of civil unrest like that, how the police or the government would behave any differently.

00:24:55.000 I would hope that they would see the mistake they made in 2020 by letting it get out of hand and not stomping it on day two.

00:25:01.000 It didn't get out of hand.

00:25:02.000 To them, they got what they wanted.

00:25:04.000 In fact, it worked perfectly.

00:25:05.000 What I'm wondering is, because you were saying, I think Tim mentioned, it's like a dissolution of order in the system, but what I definitely see is a rise of organized crime in the system.

00:25:14.000 These people that are organizing on Facebook chats, wherever signal, they're organizing flash mobs, they're organizing.

00:25:19.000 And it's like not one organization, it's a lot of little organizations, but it's a new type of organized crime that needs to be dealt with.

00:25:25.000 And it's maybe that the government doesn't know how to deal with it quite yet.

00:25:28.000 I mean, they got their spy tech, but It's just so disparate, it's hard to see it coming.

00:25:33.000 You've got nine poor kids in Philadelphia that want to get on a signal chat and decide to go break into a Best Buy at nine o'clock.

00:25:39.000 You can't... How does the government... So it might be that they are unequipped.

00:25:44.000 Worst case scenario, they're complicit.

00:25:46.000 They're letting it happen.

00:25:48.000 That's what I fear the most, because if the government gets behind organized crime, then you're looking at a cultural revolution.

00:25:53.000 That's like what it is.

00:25:55.000 Hopefully they want to stomp it out as much as the citizens do, and they're just looking for a time and a place.

00:26:00.000 He mentions the Bolshevik in the tweet.

00:26:02.000 You just mentioned the cultural.

00:26:04.000 All of these have in common a plan for different tiers in society, right?

00:26:09.000 So the average normal, you know, normal person that's a problem would be dealt with a lot differently, right?

00:26:15.000 Maybe they just leave that to the flash mobs. 0.89

00:26:17.000 Maybe that they leave that to the activists and the extremists.

00:26:21.000 But people like Cernovich, Maybe even some of us, you know.

00:26:24.000 I mean, seriously, that would be different.

00:26:26.000 You know, the Julian Assange treatment.

00:26:29.000 Lawfare when it can be done.

00:26:31.000 You know, I know people who...

00:26:33.000 I've been indicted in Georgia.

00:26:35.000 We're this close to being indicted in Georgia.

00:26:38.000 So they're there, but I guess that matters.

00:26:41.000 What role are you playing and how influential are you in opposing something that they don't like?

00:26:46.000 I do just want to bring up this 2024's total defeat.

00:26:48.000 I don't know if he's using reverse psychology there or what, but he's right about the RNC not doing enough.

00:26:55.000 So as a pollster, I look at this and I say they're indicting Trump because he is improve so much with certain groups that Republicans are not supposed to win, they know that.

00:27:07.000 And they're looking at that.

00:27:08.000 And they're saying, what other choice do I have?

00:27:10.000 I might as well, because if this man gets back in, it may be me on the block!

00:27:16.000 Still.

00:27:17.000 The RNC is way behind in infrastructure.

00:27:20.000 They should have done much better in 22 and didn't because they still don't really understand what they're up against.

00:27:27.000 And even watching, because I know about this, even watching some of them trying to get it together and trying to deal with ballot harvesting.

00:27:36.000 It's a messiah complex on the right.

00:27:38.000 Everyone wants to be the hero.

00:27:39.000 They're not working together like Democrats work together.

00:27:42.000 Well, I highlighted this in a segment where I was talking about Democrats going full communist because they're cheering for the ruling against Trump's businesses where the judge basically banged the gavel, summary judgment, no more Trump organization.

00:27:54.000 And I showed this voting chart.

00:27:57.000 Of the social scale and the economic scale, Trump's voters are anti-woke but spread out between the left and the right.

00:28:03.000 Trump even has communists to support him.

00:28:05.000 Like, I don't mean like the ideological communists of the woke.

00:28:10.000 I mean people who believe in very far-left progressive economic systems of government control.

00:28:15.000 He has very few, actually, laissez-faire capitalists, interestingly.

00:28:18.000 But the cluster is in the center.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.

00:28:21.000 The Democrat bloc is clustered entirely in the far left social and economic area, which means they mostly just march in lockstep.

00:28:30.000 Not completely.

00:28:31.000 There are Democrats reaching up into the less woke area, but the cluster, maybe the plurality, large or majority, is all hyper-concentrated in one circle, ultra-woke, as far left as possible, in both economic and social.

00:28:45.000 Again, Trump's base was anti-woke, opposing the social left, but spread out in terms of economic policy, which explains shows like this.

00:28:58.000 Well, you know, not to jump in again, but I have to point out again that they know that.

00:29:06.000 They're starting to see that.

00:29:08.000 So, you know, Obama's old pollster puts out a poll last month and he's having a meltdown over it.

00:29:15.000 And of course, they're all trying to make themselves feel better.

00:29:17.000 So on top of that, they're trying to see how some of the people on different ends of that spectrum react if you ask things like, well, what if he's convicted of, you know, one felony, two felonies, right?

00:29:29.000 They're just trying to get some good news out of it.

00:29:31.000 And when all is said and done, a lot of these people I don't think are going to care when they are looking at, maybe they're not saying it out loud like Cernovich is saying it, but I do feel like listening to people that we interview all the time, A lot of people are where Cernovich is here, even being hyperbolic.

00:29:50.000 And if you notice who is... Well, he's saying it's not hyperbole.

00:29:55.000 Yeah, right, right.

00:29:56.000 Even if you look at who is most angry at these responses or think he's being hyperbolic, it's a certain group.

00:30:03.000 And I don't know who watched it or who didn't, but Bill O'Reilly was interviewed by Tucker the other day.

00:30:08.000 And Tucker said, well, what's going to happen here?

00:30:11.000 Is Trump going to be elected from prison or what would happen if he is elected?

00:30:15.000 And Bill O'Reilly just kind of still, even now.

00:30:19.000 Just dismiss the idea that Donald Trump could be convicted or would be convicted and sent to prison.

00:30:25.000 Oh, worst case scenario, he's going to be in house arrest in the White House.

00:30:29.000 And I just feel like this is a real big generational divide on this, that there are still some older people who haven't seen it.

00:30:36.000 But again, in the primary, and I can say this from polling the primary, Trump's big lead really started to happen when older voters Couldn't believe that he really was indicted.

00:30:47.000 They didn't think it would happen.

00:30:48.000 I want to highlight just real quick this article.

00:30:49.000 This is from The Wrap from July 1st, 2020.

00:30:53.000 Dilbert creator Scott Adams says Republicans will be hunted if Biden wins election.

00:30:58.000 There's a good chance you will be dead within the year, Adams says. 0.82

00:31:00.000 Definitely hyperbolic, okay?

00:31:03.000 No, within the year you are not dead.

00:31:06.000 Only Aaron Danielson was a few months later.

00:31:09.000 So my point here is, and I'm being somewhat of a dick when I say that, Is that he was actually fairly correct, despite being hyperbolic. 0.69

00:31:18.000 Scott Adams said, you'll be hunted, and then a few months later, they just walked up to this dude and shot him for being a Trump supporter. 0.98

00:31:24.000 Just put two in his chest.

00:31:26.000 We have not seen that repeated on a great scale, so consider that, right?

00:31:31.000 And also consider, would you have heard this news were it not for the internet?

00:31:35.000 So I want to make sure people understand.

00:31:37.000 That, uh, bad things happen, and you need to balance the, is this a one-off of Portland being a crazy, bleeding Kansas-type state?

00:31:46.000 Or is it really as bad?

00:31:48.000 Well, look, Scott Adams says there's a good chance he'll be dead within the year.

00:31:50.000 Okay, dude.

00:31:51.000 Yeah, it's been three years since Biden got elected, we're all here, we're all still working.

00:31:55.000 So I'll say something similar to Mike Cernovich.

00:31:57.000 I do think alarm is warranted, but...

00:32:01.000 Perhaps a bit aggressive, gentlemen, perhaps a bit aggressive, right?

00:32:05.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:32:07.000 The way he phrased it, too, like, I don't have the tweet in front of me anymore, but saying, you are going to, like, talking to me, saying, we are, like, don't pull me into your little muck there, Mike.

00:32:16.000 I get what you're saying, but I'm not part of your group there.

00:32:18.000 No, but they go after you first. 0.99

00:32:20.000 Yeah, don't try and scare me into making a point and get me to follow you, it's junk.

00:32:24.000 I think that the point really is, Because of the way that the left has framed the the quote-unquote sides Anyone that's not on their team is somehow on the other team It's the basket of deplorables comment that Clinton made if you do not fall in line and you have the if you have the wrong politics and that doesn't mean 0.65

00:32:51.000 Trump's politics.

00:32:53.000 That means not their politics.

00:32:55.000 Then you are on the outside and you are just as liable to be thrown into the group of the bad guys as anyone else is.

00:33:03.000 It doesn't matter if you're a MAGA person or you're like...

00:33:07.000 One of the free staters up in New Hampshire that are libertarians or whatever.

00:33:14.000 If you're not on board with their project, then you have the wrong politics.

00:33:20.000 The thing about political correctness is there is the correct politics and that means everything else that is not that is incorrect.

00:33:30.000 So it doesn't matter what your politics are.

00:33:32.000 All that matters is your politics are not theirs.

00:33:35.000 So you can't, you don't get to walk away from it.

00:33:38.000 In a revolutionary period, a communist revolutionary period, it is not the revolutionaries who are killed first.

00:33:45.000 That's after the revolution, they begin purging revolutionaries.

00:33:50.000 So in terms of, if we are undergoing something akin to what Cernovich and Scott Adams have described, so to understand the context, using this room as an example, Ian, you are their first target.

00:34:04.000 You are a collaborator, and you have less defenses.

00:34:10.000 So when it comes to a Robespierre type period, they're going to be looking for people who they view as collaborators, who don't have the means to defend themselves.

00:34:18.000 Look at it this way.

00:34:19.000 Spanish Civil War style.

00:34:21.000 You've got people who are living in the neighborhood where there's a conflict between the nationalists, the republicans and the communists or whatever the factions were, fascist republicans, call them whatever you want.

00:34:31.000 And so, can they go into the territory that is militarized and fortified by their political opposition?

00:34:38.000 No, they can't.

00:34:38.000 But what about the collaborator who lives down the street?

00:34:41.000 So that's, I'm not saying you literally, I'm saying in the context of what this is, you've got There will be someone who is known to have spoken out and said, you guys are wrong, this revolution shouldn't happen, I'm friends with those guys.

00:34:55.000 In the revolutionary period, those are the people that get gulag'd and purged.

00:34:58.000 The people like, in this instance, me or Phil, are the ones in the fortified areas they can't get to.

00:35:04.000 I'm speaking figuratively, not literally.

00:35:06.000 So in terms of, can the government comment on arresting people in charge?

00:35:10.000 Well, they are.

00:35:11.000 And there's a reason why, when it came to January 6, there are certain high-profile people who are targeted, certain high-profile people who are not targeted, and most people who were targeted were low-profile and no one even knows their names.

00:35:26.000 If the federal government were to indict Alex Jones, hey, hold on, they indicted Owen Schroer, despite the fact they were both part of the same event.

00:35:33.000 Because Alex Jones would create too big of a backlash.

00:35:37.000 And they know, hey, if we drop a boulder in this lake, it's going to wake everybody up.

00:35:42.000 Owen Schroer, we can mess with, and it will be, you know, a moderately sized rock that will cause a splash, not too bad.

00:35:49.000 But all these little pebbles, we can strip them all out with no opposition.

00:35:55.000 After they strip away the pebbles, then they can go for the boulders.

00:35:59.000 So, when you say stuff to, like, Scott Adams, you're like, don't say that, don't put me in your group.

00:36:03.000 No, say that to Mike Cernovich.

00:36:05.000 Well, right, either, right.

00:36:07.000 And my point is this.

00:36:08.000 But he didn't do that to me overtly, I'm just saying.

00:36:10.000 If I had a tweet right in my face.

00:36:13.000 Their tweets are definitely, in my opinion, a bit over the top.

00:36:16.000 For sure.

00:36:17.000 I think they're describing something genuine, but very alarmist in how they do it.

00:36:20.000 And it's funny because everyone says that about me when I describe Civil War.

00:36:22.000 And here I am saying, guys, you know, it's been three years since Biden got elected, we're still alive, okay?

00:36:27.000 There are a few people who have died.

00:36:29.000 In a revolution, they're going for collaborators and people who are unaligned and refuse to stand behind a line because you lack defense.

00:36:37.000 So it is not literally you, that's not what I'm trying to say.

00:36:41.000 I'm saying it's going to be the dude who's at work and being like, look man, I'm keeping my head down.

00:36:45.000 Yeah, they're going to be like, look bro, we've seen your Facebook, okay?

00:36:50.000 The group of Trump supporters over there, they've fortified themselves.

00:36:54.000 They have a parallel economy.

00:36:55.000 You?

00:36:55.000 You're fired.

00:36:56.000 So again, I'm clarifying.

00:36:57.000 I mean this all figuratively.

00:36:59.000 What I think will end up happening is there's going to be a dude working at a factory, and they're going to be all going Democrat, Democrat, Democrat.

00:37:06.000 All these conservative Trump supporters are building a parallel economy, forming companies, forming jobs, downloading apps like Public Square, so that they can keep working, and working in the film industry, in the music industry, and then these guys who are working at these companies, where they're just like, look, if I just don't say anything, now the boss is going to come and they're going to be like, so uh, you went into a meeting yesterday with Janet, by yourself?

00:37:30.000 It's like, yeah, she was asking me about the TPS reports, but Yeah, um, you're being accused of sexual assault, so we're gonna have to escort you out of the building, and things like that.

00:37:40.000 So, uh, that is to say, quite literally, you work at Timcast, you're fine.

00:37:44.000 I'm saying, these people who think that they're going to say nothing, and I'm not involved with you, don't rope me with you, if I stay away from these guys I'll be safe, no, you're the first ones to get fired, first ones to lose your job.

00:37:53.000 You're the collaborators, you're the, you're the opposition.

00:37:57.000 You know I'm listening to you say this and give these examples though and it maybe it's not widespread it's not it's not yet but I'm thinking about after January 6th I had a.

00:38:08.000 I got these military documents, and what they were saying was, we're going to start to look through people in your company, we're going to start to look through their Facebooks and their social posts, and if they liked something from these groups, then obviously they were going to do something, discipline them or something like that.

00:38:26.000 That's within the military.

00:38:28.000 It wasn't widespread yet in the populace, but guess who was in there?

00:38:32.000 The Proud Boys, you know, those groups.

00:38:34.000 So I don't know what happened to those people, but they had it there.

00:38:38.000 It was the Marine Corps, by the way.

00:38:40.000 And I published them on Twitter.

00:38:41.000 I want to jump to this next tweet from Mike Cernovich.

00:38:43.000 So let's, fresh segment, let me just, for those who are just tuning in, Cernovich has a series of tweets that are similar in essence to what Scott Adams had said in the last election that You know, that he believes, Cernovich believes he'll be hunted down and killed in 2020, after 2024, if, you know, if we lose.

00:38:59.000 He says, if you're conservative with a large platform, have you talked to your family about how you're going to be framed for a crime?

00:39:05.000 He quote tweeted this, he says 2024 is life or death and he quote tweeted saying, John Eastman facing disbarment for a legal memo on an open constitutional law issue.

00:39:13.000 Trump, judge said Mar-a-Lago only worth 18 million dollars.

00:39:17.000 Michigan, Elderly Republicans indicted.

00:39:20.000 Georgia, fake RICO case.

00:39:21.000 SCOTUS is the only stopgap.

00:39:23.000 Once that's gone, there's no law.

00:39:25.000 I'm not even convinced SCOTUS is, because when it came to Texas v Pennsylvania in 2020, SCOTUS said we are too cowardly to answer a question on original jurisdiction, which is insane.

00:39:35.000 They have to, and they didn't.

00:39:36.000 I believe Thomas and Alito are correct.

00:39:38.000 I highlight this to make the point.

00:39:40.000 While Cernovich and Scott Adams saying it's life or death may have been hyperbolic then, maybe now.

00:39:46.000 Cernovich says it's not hyperbolic and these are all goober conservatives who don't think so.

00:39:49.000 He does point out something very important in this tweet.

00:39:51.000 Michigan, elderly Republicans were indicted.

00:39:54.000 It is not going to be execute order 66 as I stated in the previous segment.

00:40:00.000 It is going to be you are, you committed fraud.

00:40:03.000 That's right, yeah, we think you committed fraud.

00:40:07.000 So you're under arrest.

00:40:09.000 Elderly Republicans were tasked, were electors, were asked to sign documents in the event lawsuits were won, they would require these documents.

00:40:18.000 It is a normal constitutional procedure.

00:40:21.000 Michigan indicted them and they are facing the rest of their lives in prison over doing what they are constitutionally requested to do.

00:40:29.000 They'll use the IRS.

00:40:30.000 Oh, hands down.

00:40:32.000 Obama already did it.

00:40:33.000 Obama went after Tea Party groups?

00:40:35.000 Tea Party groups.

00:40:36.000 That's right.

00:40:36.000 So it's crazy to me that people are like, Cernovich is out of his mind.

00:40:40.000 Okay, again, I don't know about you just being dead right away, but ten years ago, Obama used the IRS to target his political opponents.

00:40:47.000 Now look where we are.

00:40:48.000 Now look where we are.

00:40:49.000 They're arresting lawyers.

00:40:51.000 Yo, they're arresting lawyers. 0.98

00:40:53.000 A judge in New York on summary judgment banged a gavel and said the Trump organization is to be dissolved and then sanctioned the lawyers for arguing.

00:41:04.000 The system already is fractured and busted up.

00:41:06.000 Yeah, we see it.

00:41:07.000 Like we were talking earlier about in 1992 with like, I don't know, we talked about Rodney King earlier in the week, but like just the chaos and the things that have happened that didn't get televised, but now like anything, any guy can tweet out Eight things that have happened.

00:41:20.000 Aaron Danielson, we've talked about a million times, that probably wouldn't even have gotten national media attention, or maybe it would have, but likely may not have gotten national media attention.

00:41:27.000 I agree, yeah.

00:41:28.000 This could be an example of just taking these things and blowing them out of proportion, but I think the Trump indictments are just beyond the pale.

00:41:36.000 It's history.

00:41:37.000 It is one of the most egregious violations of this country's values, laws, norms, rules, the Constitution, and it is one of the most, if not the most significant thing that has happened to this country since its founding.

00:41:52.000 Right?

00:41:52.000 You can talk about the Civil War, and then I would say, okay, perhaps we can have a conversation about the Civil War, that when Abraham Lincoln was trying to, he tried to, I don't think he did actually indict a sitting Supreme Court Justice, but this was secession and then conflict.

00:42:06.000 So, Right now, this could be on par with these moves that led to 1865.

00:42:12.000 It's like we're in a different country, and literally, like, same name, but because, like, someone in Tacoma, Washington, will be online talking to their best friend in England, and they don't have any friends in Tacoma, because they're online.

00:42:25.000 So it's like a different world, a different reality, this country now.

00:42:29.000 1861, I should have said.

00:42:30.000 You know, it's like we're a different country.

00:42:32.000 That's the difference between this country And other countries or has been that we don't beat each other political opposition in the juror box.

00:42:42.000 We beat them in the ballot box.

00:42:44.000 That's really, you know, something that one of the only things that really does or did separate us.

00:42:50.000 That's not happening now.

00:42:51.000 That's the real difference in the major shift.

00:42:54.000 And, you know, people ask me, how is this going to impact the election?

00:43:01.000 I think it's just a matter of, it's a fight between wills.

00:43:05.000 It's a matter of resolve.

00:43:06.000 And you're going to get hit with something new every day.

00:43:09.000 They want to remove him from the ballot here.

00:43:12.000 And it's just brought up the Civil War.

00:43:13.000 The last time Democrats removed a candidate from the ballot was Abraham Lincoln in 1860.

00:43:20.000 That's it.

00:43:20.000 It's really the only time I can even recall it being done.

00:43:23.000 They removed him from the ballot in southern states.

00:43:25.000 They removed him from the ballot.

00:43:26.000 And here's the funny thing.

00:43:27.000 What they're trying or want to do now is remove Trump from the ballot in blue states.

00:43:31.000 That he would otherwise have very little prayer in winning anyway.

00:43:35.000 That's what happened to Lincoln.

00:43:36.000 And he's still won.

00:43:38.000 There were four candidates that time, too.

00:43:40.000 That's right.

00:43:41.000 The vote was split.

00:43:43.000 Similarities are sick, man. 0.97

00:43:46.000 What if it's Cornel West?

00:43:47.000 Parallels.

00:43:48.000 RFK, Biden, Trump, giving Trump 37-38% but enough to win.

00:43:52.000 Yeah.

00:43:55.000 And then they take his name off the ballot in blue states.

00:43:57.000 Removed off six states.

00:43:58.000 Right.

00:43:59.000 This is crazy.

00:44:00.000 Because there could be, and that's why you saw it in Colorado, in a situation like 16, when we had disaffected voters going to, you know, Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Colorado got close there, Tim, got way closer than it should have been.

00:44:14.000 So did New Mexico.

00:44:15.000 What people need to understand is that, Strauss, how generational theory is not this profound discovery.

00:44:21.000 It's just the writer's cycle for Earth.

00:44:24.000 Simulation.

00:44:25.000 Seasons 1, 2, 3, and 4, right?

00:44:27.000 Season 1, the American Revolution.

00:44:28.000 Season 2, the Civil War.

00:44:29.000 Season 3, World War.

00:44:30.000 World at War!

00:44:32.000 They had to spice things up.

00:44:33.000 It wasn't just enough for America to be fighting.

00:44:36.000 And so now we're going for, how about... Interdimensional!

00:44:38.000 No!

00:44:39.000 Civil War and World War 3 at the same time!

00:44:41.000 Space Aliens!

00:44:42.000 And then Aliens come together!

00:44:45.000 All at the same time!

00:44:46.000 Every time something crazy new happens, that is like a, we passed this Rubicon, we crossed this line, it does seem to be aliens.

00:44:53.000 They're trying it, but the water's too hot, they keep pulling their toe out, it's just, people don't buy it.

00:44:59.000 But it used to be, and you were kind of, maybe you're alluding to this, but I was thinking about it while you were talking, that it, you'd get the presidential vote, whether you hated the guy or liked the guy, you'd vote, it didn't really matter, like, yeah, your commander's the commander, but Congress runs the show, it doesn't really matter, and so like, let's all, Enjoy life as Americans.

00:45:15.000 That's what we get to do together.

00:45:17.000 I'm sure you know about voter turnout in the early days of this country, right?

00:45:21.000 What the voter turnout percentages were?

00:45:22.000 I mean, I'll have them on top of my head.

00:45:25.000 Like 10%?

00:45:27.000 Yeah, they were abysmal until Jacksonian democracy, which started to ramp it up.

00:45:33.000 Which reached around like 20 some odd percent.

00:45:36.000 Which makes sense because then when women's suffrage happened, it basically doubled. 0.95

00:45:39.000 So women started voting. 1.00

00:45:40.000 What did Jackson do that enticed voters?

00:45:44.000 One man, one vote.

00:45:45.000 You have no representation.

00:45:47.000 And then there's actually a lot of parallels to Trump as well.

00:45:49.000 And he loves, Trump loves Jackson.

00:45:52.000 You know, he won too early, like Trump, which I think you could argue.

00:45:56.000 Trump came in and I mean, I remember in 16 saying to people, you know, the election of one man, a revolution does not make here.

00:46:03.000 There are still a bunch of cheese Republicans in the Senate, in the House.

00:46:08.000 You know, this is not going to go how a lot of people think it's going to go.

00:46:11.000 That happened to Jackson.

00:46:13.000 And the establishment status quo came at him and he had to regroup.

00:46:18.000 And this is something Donald Trump still hasn't, at least not yet, I have not seen him learn.

00:46:23.000 He should just run with his own slate of candidates.

00:46:25.000 Look at what is going on right now with this debt fight, with the CR, the continuing resolution.

00:46:30.000 He wants them to defund political law.

00:46:34.000 That's just not going to happen. 0.98

00:46:36.000 With the current bunch of cowards that are in Congress. 0.98

00:46:42.000 It's not going to happen. 0.98

00:46:43.000 We know who these people are.

00:46:45.000 We know the talent that's in these same districts.

00:46:48.000 Go after them.

00:46:49.000 Trump should be running the America First ticket.

00:46:52.000 Not the Republican ticket, you know?

00:46:55.000 He should be running the America First ticket.

00:46:57.000 And if you're for me, in Texas 12, you vote for John O'Shea.

00:47:00.000 If you're for me, you vote for Matt Gaetz in Florida 1.

00:47:04.000 If you're for me, that benefited a lot of bad people in 2016. 0.95

00:47:09.000 Trump always gave more than he got from the traditional GOP coalition, and he drug a bunch of losers over the finish line who would then stick a knife right in his back. 0.90

00:47:20.000 So this is something he's got.

00:47:22.000 I know he's, you know, the guy's busy with lawfare.

00:47:25.000 He's trying to run for president.

00:47:27.000 It's you're going to repeat 2016 and 17 all over again if you don't do this.

00:47:32.000 So like where Lindsey Graham, he said, everybody vote for Lindsey Graham, and they did, and he won.

00:47:37.000 Big mistake.

00:47:39.000 So you're saying he should specifically, should he denounce certain people?

00:47:44.000 No, because you don't want to make enemies yet.

00:47:45.000 There's nothing you can do about Lindsey Graham, and plus you want to win South Carolina, you don't want to lose. 1.00

00:47:50.000 There is upcountry, super conservative South Carolina, and then there's Horry County, you know, and other places around Charleston.

00:47:57.000 You don't want to lose that.

00:47:58.000 So you don't pick fights with people you can't remove.

00:48:00.000 But there are, I mean, they're their allies.

00:48:05.000 And congressmen are up every two years.

00:48:08.000 We know who the senators are.

00:48:09.000 And one I just mentioned, Texas 12, this is a woman. 1.00

00:48:13.000 Who is the appropriations committee.

00:48:15.000 So this is relevant to right now.

00:48:17.000 I think Matt Gaetz was just on your show making a deal about this.

00:48:20.000 Kay Granger made a deal with Trump. 0.97

00:48:22.000 She had Chris Putnam on her butt and Putnam was in the lead. 0.94

00:48:27.000 And she said, you know, I need the president's help for his endorsement. 0.98

00:48:30.000 He said, I need your help on impeachment.

00:48:32.000 He gave her the endorsement.

00:48:35.000 She defeated Chris Putnam.

00:48:36.000 When he needed her support in the impeachment hearing and the vote, she went home, pretended she was sick, and refused to vote by proxy.

00:48:44.000 I mean, this is the kind of spineless, and it's not even spineless, in that case, it's just backstabbing.

00:48:49.000 It's treachery, you know?

00:48:51.000 And you're not going to affect meaningful change with that kind of treachery.

00:48:56.000 If I told people that there are maybe Three to five tops, and I think I'm being generous at five, solid Republicans in the U.S.

00:49:05.000 Senate.

00:49:06.000 Out of all of them, I wonder how many would be surprised.

00:49:10.000 Matt Gaetz had to fight tooth and nail to defeat that spending bill for Ukraine.

00:49:15.000 Finally, that was a big turning point.

00:49:18.000 119 Republicans voted against it.

00:49:20.000 I think 100 and something voted for it, but against had more than not.

00:49:25.000 That's a big deal, because that doesn't happen.

00:49:28.000 The House Republican Conference is probably 85 to 90 percent coward.

00:49:32.000 I may even be being generous with that. 0.90

00:49:35.000 They're not really what they claim to be.

00:49:38.000 John Duarte out in California 13 ran on border security.

00:49:42.000 I'm super Trumpy.

00:49:44.000 And by the way, I need migrant workers, so I want to keep the border open.

00:49:48.000 He voted against the trans bill the other day.

00:49:51.000 I mean, these people, Say one thing, completely do another when they get in there, and this is a uniquely Republican problem.

00:49:58.000 You will not see this on the Democratic side.

00:50:00.000 When was the last time, Tim, you saw a Democrat promise something, right, that's a liberal, um, you know, I don't want to say orthodoxy, yeah, liberal orthodoxy, and then get to Congress and stab their voters in the back?

00:50:13.000 AOC did it.

00:50:15.000 With what?

00:50:15.000 Famously with Israel Pesos.

00:50:17.000 Right away.

00:50:19.000 All the progressives were like, whoa, whoa, she's taking the establishment deadline now.

00:50:22.000 Yeah, I mean on like, you know, that's peripheral compared to like trade or immigration is for Republicans, you know?

00:50:30.000 So, you know, seriously, you know?

00:50:32.000 I just don't think their words are worth anything.

00:50:35.000 Yeah, they should be putting their actions in smart contracts.

00:50:38.000 I don't care if they're Democrats or Republicans.

00:50:40.000 There's like seven Republicans where I'm kind of like, yeah, maybe.

00:50:45.000 Like if they were like, I'll endorse you but then you'll vote for me on that and they need to put it in writing or they need to put it into a smart contract so it triggers automatically, they don't get to resend their agreement, but would that be like...

00:50:58.000 Todd's a wiki.

00:51:00.000 They used to have great research on this.

00:51:02.000 The whole system relies on that kind of a trust.

00:51:05.000 It is a status quo.

00:51:06.000 I'll scratch your back, you scratch mine. 0.97

00:51:08.000 But when it's complete betrayal, then the whole thing's just... There's no benefit for them to sign something like a smart contract that automatically executes because the possibility of changing is what gives them leverage to leverage one side against the other.

00:51:26.000 So they'll go ahead and they'll say, yes, I promise to do this, but then they'll go and talk behind closed doors to their, the people that would give them donations or whatever and say, well, you know, we'll do this and blah, blah, blah.

00:51:37.000 That's what Hillary, Hillary Clinton came out and said that when you, when she said you have your public position and then your private position, she specifically articulated it just like that.

00:51:47.000 You have a public position and then you have a private position.

00:51:52.000 The duplicity is part of the system.

00:51:55.000 It's part and parcel of the system.

00:51:57.000 It's what they use to get one side to play against the other.

00:52:02.000 So the idea that they would ever agree to smart contracts where they say, yes, I'm going to do this.

00:52:08.000 And then when it happens, it triggers and et cetera.

00:52:11.000 It won't happen because then they don't have the ability to basically the ability to lie.

00:52:18.000 It's just like when you say, oh, you know, we should get We should get term limits for people in Congress and etc, etc.

00:52:26.000 They're never going to vote for that.

00:52:28.000 Let me talk about politics of scale, so people can understand why politicians literally don't care about you, why Hillary Clinton never cared about gay marriage but claimed to support it and then privately said she was opposed to it because it doesn't matter to her.

00:52:40.000 The people who are running the country are simply thinking about how do I maintain maximum power, and they view themselves as the American people are... It's like an ant farm, or a chicken coop.

00:52:51.000 I like using the chicken coop analogy.

00:52:53.000 They need more eggs to have an egg fight with people in China, and they don't care that much about the chickens. 1.00

00:52:59.000 I mean, they don't want the chickens to die, but when a chicken dies, they're like, well, I'll just get another one, right?

00:53:02.000 So let me explain something about it so everyone can understand.

00:53:05.000 I can explain it in the best way that I can relative to my business.

00:53:09.000 When you start a show, or a coffee shop, or anything, and your business is directly associated with a small community.

00:53:17.000 Maybe you make bagels and you sell them to the public.

00:53:20.000 You know that you have about a thousand regular customers, and then you have maybe like two thousand people who come and go that you'll never see before on average.

00:53:29.000 They'll visit your shop one time and never come back.

00:53:32.000 3,000 people.

00:53:33.000 You know why Jim didn't show up today.

00:53:36.000 Oh, he comes in every morning, gets an orange juice, and he gets a bagel with cream cheese.

00:53:39.000 And then one day doesn't show up, and you're like, I wonder where he is.

00:53:41.000 Next day he shows up, and he's like, ah, you know, I had something happen with the dog.

00:53:44.000 A special circumstance occurred.

00:53:46.000 As your business gets bigger, you start to notice that the weather has profound impacts.

00:53:51.000 Whereas some things probably don't matter to the individual partaking them, it has a tremendous impact in the back end of a larger scale business.

00:54:00.000 That is to say, To what degree does winter, does summer, and does rain affect a YouTube channel?

00:54:07.000 Now, most people who are fans of the show watch the show all the time, but one person will simply say, You know what?

00:54:13.000 It's really nice this Friday night.

00:54:16.000 I'm gonna go out and hang out with my friends.

00:54:17.000 I'll catch TimCastIRL later.

00:54:19.000 But guess what?

00:54:20.000 This is replicated by 3-7% of our viewer base.

00:54:25.000 I cannot address the single individual who doesn't show up for whatever reason, and most people probably think this one person not showing up doesn't matter, but in the back end, when you have a scale of a million plus viewers, you actually can see insane trends.

00:54:40.000 So this actually plays to what AI tracks as well, when it comes to health and fitness, and like when they're looking at blood, like your blood oxygenation, and they can find cancer.

00:54:49.000 We actually see crazy things in our data that you wouldn't notice unless you have millions of viewers.

00:54:55.000 And then, you're like, nothing you can do about it.

00:54:58.000 It's hard to get super, I don't know, it's kind of hard to explain.

00:55:03.000 But the general idea is, we can see weather patterns in viewership, and then I can correlate, oh, viewership was down in this region?

00:55:11.000 I bet it was sunny out and 65 degrees.

00:55:14.000 And then sure enough, we can see, that's right, in Southern California, it was a beautiful day.

00:55:18.000 Nope, that's obvious.

00:55:19.000 Oh, what's that?

00:55:20.000 Viewership was really high today?

00:55:21.000 I bet it rained.

00:55:23.000 Yup, rained.

00:55:23.000 And then we check.

00:55:24.000 More people watch.

00:55:25.000 So when you're in government, relate these things.

00:55:28.000 You are thinking about, we want more oil.

00:55:31.000 More oil means more money.

00:55:32.000 More money means more power.

00:55:33.000 More power means we control more regions.

00:55:36.000 They are not thinking about you as a human being and your child.

00:55:39.000 So when it comes to issues of like, why do they want to sterilize kids?

00:55:42.000 Why do they want to abort kids? 1.00

00:55:43.000 Because they don't care about you as an individual.

00:55:45.000 Your life is meaningless.

00:55:47.000 They're looking for a 7% return on their investment.

00:55:50.000 Nothing else matters.

00:55:51.000 They're looking at their chicken coop and saying, this new feed is going to kill off 20% of the chickens, but they're going to lay twice as many eggs.

00:55:58.000 So we're actually getting more eggs.

00:56:01.000 Because 20% less chickens means 20% less eggs, but for the chickens that survive, we're getting two times the eggs.

00:56:07.000 So this is even better.

00:56:08.000 They don't care about you.

00:56:09.000 This is how government at scale works.

00:56:11.000 They will sacrifice you, your individual pattern of behaviors is meaningless to them, and they will just simply maximize economic output to the detriment of large swaths of the population.

00:56:21.000 That being said, fair point, man.

00:56:24.000 When Matt Gaetz was here, he said something very important that I hope people understand.

00:56:28.000 We were all laughing and cheering for our government shutdown.

00:56:31.000 We, as fans of Matt Gaetz and his work in Congress, not constituents in Florida, but fans of the work he does, I was like, this is fantastic!

00:56:39.000 Here's a guy who's sticking it to the government, it's gonna cause a shutdown.

00:56:41.000 Guess what?

00:56:42.000 I don't care if the government shuts down, doesn't hurt me.

00:56:43.000 Guess what?

00:56:44.000 Disabled veterans?

00:56:45.000 Very scared.

00:56:46.000 So when you're Matt Gaetz, and you know you have to stop this omnibus spending trash, But it could mean a government shutdown.

00:56:55.000 And then comes a knock on your door, and there is a disabled veteran, and he says, please don't take my paycheck from me. 0.86

00:57:01.000 I have given everything, what more must I give?

00:57:04.000 And he's got him there.

00:57:04.000 He's got him there.

00:57:05.000 And then Matt has to say, my friend, I understand, and I'm sorry.

00:57:10.000 We have to do this.

00:57:12.000 But as a politician, the confrontations that you'll experience, the circumstances are going to be, Do the right thing, but no matter what you do, you're going to piss somebody off.

00:57:22.000 And do we, as people who want to solve the problem of omnibus spending, want to sacrifice the well-being of our disabled veterans to get there?

00:57:31.000 That's a very difficult question, isn't it?

00:57:33.000 So you'll end up with politicians, most of them don't care at all.

00:57:36.000 They're simply asking themselves.

00:57:38.000 How many disabled veterans are going to lose their money, and how will that affect my numbers come November?

00:57:43.000 That's what they're thinking.

00:57:44.000 Look, because November's in the short term.

00:57:45.000 Right.

00:57:46.000 Right?

00:57:46.000 So, Matt Gaetz, and you know, bless him for it, he's thinking, guess what?

00:57:51.000 You're not going to have a check at all when this debt bomb blows.

00:57:54.000 Right.

00:57:55.000 And guaranteed, all of these dirtbags are going to be pretending they were right up shoulder to shoulder fighting with Matt Gaetz when that happens.

00:58:04.000 I mean, if we could fast forward, guys, if something doesn't change and we could fast forward, I don't know how long it's going to be, nobody does, but we could fast forward to the future when we have to really be held accountable for this recklessness.

00:58:17.000 You're going to hear members of Congress go, Matt Gaetz and I were fighting against this!

00:58:22.000 Totally!

00:58:23.000 Everybody!

00:58:24.000 Everybody!

00:58:26.000 Even Democrats.

00:58:27.000 Even Democrats.

00:58:28.000 You know, if it wasn't for the Republicans trying to give tax cuts to the wealthy, we would have had this under control!

00:58:34.000 And that's the tragic part about it, because, you know, can we grow our way out of this problem anymore?

00:58:41.000 You know, maybe under Trump, when we were seeing a period, revenue was coming in from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and it was starting to rise because we were in that Goldilocks zone of corporate tax rates.

00:58:53.000 And then we were going at 3% or more.

00:58:55.000 If COVID didn't hit, that was our window.

00:58:59.000 The window's closed.

00:58:59.000 We need a new fuel source now.

00:59:01.000 Oil's too expensive and heavy.

00:59:02.000 We need hydrogen fuel.

00:59:03.000 If we can transform our economy into a new form of productivity, because money is not what it's about.

00:59:10.000 It's about productivity.

00:59:11.000 What are we creating?

00:59:12.000 What is the value of the things we are creating?

00:59:14.000 So if we can create cheap fuel, and I think graphene is a building material.

00:59:19.000 Graphene is the byproduct of the hydrogen formation.

00:59:22.000 You actually make $4.50 for every kilogram of hydrogen you produce with new technology.

00:59:26.000 I got to stop right there.

00:59:26.000 You're wrong.

00:59:27.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:27.000 Ooh, tell me more.

00:59:28.000 You're wrong.

00:59:29.000 We need cold fusion.

00:59:30.000 I'm open to that.

00:59:33.000 My real point is that you're actually correct.

00:59:35.000 I'm just being pedantic.

00:59:37.000 I'm saying that beyond just hydrogen, nuclear energy right now is a very, very important source of energy for us.

00:59:45.000 And this is all obviously like, we ask chickens in the chicken coop.

00:59:48.000 I'm just assuming that the information we've collected and gathered and being disseminated is correct, but they lie to us all the time, so it's hard to know.

00:59:54.000 But they oppose nuclear energy despite the fact that it's carbon neutral and it has a massive, I believe it's the highest energy return on energy invested.

01:00:01.000 That means for every calorie of energy that goes in, you get... I can't remember what it was.

01:00:05.000 I watched a documentary about it.

01:00:06.000 It was like 50 energy out from nuclear whereas like oil is 30 and like solar is like 0.7.

01:00:13.000 For every calorie of energy going into solar, you actually get less output.

01:00:16.000 Granted, it's improved dramatically.

01:00:18.000 The thing about solar is more so decentralizing the grid in the event of a military strike, cyber attack, or otherwise.

01:00:24.000 And also creating... Diversifying.

01:00:26.000 It's diversifying, but also... That's why I use it, too.

01:00:29.000 The reason we got solar is not because we're like, we're gonna be good to the ribs of the earth.

01:00:32.000 Yeah, I don't think that's the case.

01:00:33.000 I think it's, if the power goes out, we're good.

01:00:36.000 Right.

01:00:36.000 So nuclear energy is the first step.

01:00:38.000 You're right about hydrogen, but we should start with nuclear power plants.

01:00:41.000 You think so?

01:00:42.000 I like hydrogen because it's, um, individuals can, can use it in their, carry it around with them and put it in their car.

01:00:47.000 If we can make hydrogen, gasoline, hybrid engines.

01:00:49.000 But, but, but for now the infrastructure for nuclear exists.

01:00:52.000 And then we need to start expanding the infrastructure for hydrogen and for other materials.

01:00:56.000 Ultimately, the point, and I want to drill this into every politician's head, every businessman's head, the answer to our economy, the solution to our economy is not in the economic, it's not in the money.

01:01:05.000 It's in the productivity of devices and technology.

01:01:08.000 So, yeah.

01:01:09.000 And that's another tragedy of the post-COVID economy.

01:01:12.000 And, you know, I don't care which party is Joe Biden winning.

01:01:16.000 We started again to move away from that.

01:01:19.000 And under Trump, we went back to good, you know, goods producing.

01:01:23.000 Productivity was obviously increasing.

01:01:27.000 You can kind of get away, too, with having a, and I don't want to encourage debt, but if you make things the world needs, and you are the leader of that, you get grace, period.

01:01:37.000 If your entire economy, which is, you know, your strength is based on the petrodollar, and you're not making enough, it's too expensive, your debt's ridiculous, then that puts you in a bad way.

01:01:50.000 We may buy ourselves some time being something that somebody needs.

01:01:53.000 This is, honestly, I think the more reasonable, the more likely reason that the U.S.

01:01:59.000 and Israel teamed up on Stuxnet to blow up the Iranian centrifuges was not because they were making nuclear weapons. 0.72

01:02:04.000 It's because the West knew they were trying to make nuclear power and create an economy that wasn't functioning off of oil.

01:02:10.000 I'll buy that for a dollar.

01:02:11.000 I really will.

01:02:11.000 Right.

01:02:12.000 And then the U.S.

01:02:12.000 was like, the petrodollar is law.

01:02:14.000 Don't make nuclear energy.

01:02:16.000 But they needed an excuse for why they were attacking a foreign country and it was, they're building nuclear weapons. 0.58

01:02:21.000 Sure.

01:02:22.000 Let's jump to the story.

01:02:24.000 We got some big news.

01:02:26.000 This is from TimCast.com.

01:02:27.000 Woman who burned down Wyoming abortion clinic. 1.00

01:02:30.000 Sentenced to five years in prison.

01:02:32.000 Lorna Roxanne Green was given the minimum possible sentence for the arson.

01:02:36.000 Lorna Roxanne Green, 22.

01:02:37.000 A 22 year old!

01:02:39.000 This is Gen Z! 0.95

01:02:40.000 Received the minimum possible sentence for the 2022 arson at Wellspring Health Access in Casper.

01:02:48.000 I'm sorry, man.

01:02:48.000 Look, don't, please, please, we don't do things like this.

01:02:51.000 You should not do things like this.

01:02:53.000 We are trying to avoid this.

01:02:54.000 We're trying to win through the process by which the Founding Fathers helped enshrine.

01:02:57.000 I understand a lot of people are like, yo, the Founding Fathers fought and did a lot of stuff.

01:03:00.000 It's like, dude, they also fought to create a system where we could, with the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, solve these problems without having to resolve them.

01:03:08.000 That was the whole point, Tim.

01:03:09.000 Right.

01:03:09.000 That was the whole point.

01:03:10.000 Representation.

01:03:10.000 They didn't want to fight again.

01:03:12.000 They didn't want to fight in the first place, and quite literally, the fighting was because they weren't being represented.

01:03:17.000 We now have a crumbling, fractured system, but still an opportunity.

01:03:22.000 It is not impossible.

01:03:24.000 So please, this is why we shouldn't have done this.

01:03:26.000 But I bring the story up, because I have warned about this.

01:03:30.000 We've seen it before, the attacks on abortion clinics, and we've had the conversation on this show.

01:03:36.000 That when you start seeing states say abortion to the point of birth, and other states say no abortion at all, Oklahoma and Colorado, sharing a border, this is an inevitability.

01:03:47.000 Now, again, people should not be doing this, okay?

01:03:51.000 It needs to be handled by a law enforcement arbiter to shut these things down through the vote, and that's what you're getting in the states that are passing the laws, and they're doing it by the book.

01:04:02.000 Let them, let the left overreact and let the law take care of it because that's the process by which we have agreed we can get these things done.

01:04:10.000 However...

01:04:12.000 It pains me to say, man, I hate to say I told you so, and I think we're gonna see worse than this.

01:04:18.000 First of all, she's getting the minimum five years in prison for burning down an abortion clinic. 1.00

01:04:23.000 Did she actually burn it down?

01:04:24.000 Did it burn all the way down?

01:04:26.000 Well, I mean, I would assume if Cassandra wrote it, it burnt down.

01:04:29.000 Did people get hurt?

01:04:30.000 She'd get murder charges if people got hurt.

01:04:32.000 Absolutely, absolutely.

01:04:33.000 Yeah, I don't think anybody was hurt, because that would change That would change the sentencing guidelines altogether.

01:04:43.000 So, yeah, burning down is a direct statement.

01:04:46.000 That means it would totally destroy the building, but I'm not entirely sure.

01:04:49.000 Burn it into obscurity, into unrecognized civility.

01:04:53.000 Well, wish you had a gas canister or something in that picture.

01:04:57.000 She poured gasoline in this building. 1.00

01:04:58.000 So, of course, this will also be weaponized by the establishment, by the Democrats in government.

01:05:04.000 Absolutely.

01:05:05.000 They'll use this as a tool.

01:05:06.000 They're going to run these commercials in 2024 as why you have to vote for us.

01:05:10.000 They're going to say far-right extremists are doing this that are otherwise.

01:05:13.000 My point is not to bring that up.

01:05:14.000 My point is simply to say people are on edge and this stuff is happening.

01:05:19.000 But there is a better way to deal with this issue.

01:05:21.000 There are very, very strong opinions on both sides.

01:05:26.000 But Republicans are not handling this issue well at all.

01:05:28.000 They're not.

01:05:29.000 And they create, and every once in a while there needs to be a release valve in society.

01:05:34.000 And public policy, if something's not going your way, unfortunately can lead to stuff like this.

01:05:39.000 Republicans know where they have the country on abortion, and yet they just continuously overreach.

01:05:45.000 I also want to make sure, because this is not just about Democrats, it's the story here from the Postmillennial.

01:05:50.000 Leader in Richmond Democrat party group arrested after posting bomb threat against Andy Ngo in Virginia Talk.

01:05:56.000 There is a big difference between threatening someone and then actually sneaking into a building and setting it on fire, so I want to make sure that's clear.

01:06:01.000 My point for this segment is not to accuse one side of being worse than the other.

01:06:05.000 These are two anecdotes, two extreme instances, but it's worrisome to see these kinds of things happen.

01:06:14.000 There's already heightened political tensions, and now we have... Bro, these are young people, and they are just... Ruining their lives. 0.98

01:06:23.000 They've lost their minds.

01:06:24.000 The firebomb lawyers in New York... Mental illness is a big problem, Tim. 1.00

01:06:28.000 After the summer of 2020, I'll accuse one side of being worse than the other side.

01:06:33.000 No, no, no, I agree with that.

01:06:34.000 I'm saying right now with these two articles, I'm not here to be like, aha, but look what the left did.

01:06:39.000 No, obviously a threat is not as bad as actually burning a building down.

01:06:42.000 You know, I'm highlighting these things to say there is conflict in this country and people say things like we're not in a civil war and it's like civil strife.

01:06:51.000 Stephen Marsh describes it as civil strife.

01:06:52.000 It's the period before civil war.

01:06:53.000 It's like bleeding Kansas.

01:06:54.000 Perhaps that's where we're at.

01:06:56.000 I think Portland is absolutely in a bleeding Kansas state, where businesses are fleeing, flash mobs are destroying everything.

01:07:05.000 People are living in fear as crime runs rampant, far-left extremists are getting whatever they want.

01:07:10.000 Just real quick, Antifa was marching down through the streets with rifles, stopping traffic and controlling vehicles in Portland.

01:07:20.000 And in Seattle with Chazz Chop, it's happened all over. 0.99

01:07:23.000 You were saying, Rich, about mental health.

01:07:25.000 I fully agree.

01:07:25.000 Mental health is such a problem right now, and the health, the degraded health of the country, the minds of the people.

01:07:30.000 But, like, and earlier we were talking about utilitarianism and how, like, you have to decide as a government, well, how many chickens have to die in order for how many eggs to be laid, okay?

01:07:40.000 You cannot quantify mental health utilitarianly.

01:07:43.000 It cannot be done.

01:07:43.000 And the government attempting to figure out what's wrong with individuals by making blanket medications is, like, not working.

01:07:52.000 It has not worked.

01:07:52.000 Gun violence has not gone down.

01:07:55.000 I could not more strongly disagree that the government should be in a position to decide, you know, How many chickens, especially when the chickens are an analogy for human beings.

01:08:07.000 The government is in no position to decide what humans should and should not live.

01:08:12.000 I mean, this goes back to the argument that Tim was having with Sargon the other day about about the death penalty or whether or not it's legitimate or not.

01:08:18.000 And that your opinion on that aside, the government is a result of the consent of the people.

01:08:25.000 The government does not have the right to make decisions about the people.

01:08:34.000 The people make decisions for the government.

01:08:37.000 And this is a fundamental, fundamental principle of a free society.

01:08:44.000 The government's legitimacy comes from the consent of the governed.

01:08:49.000 And it does not, the government does not exist to inform the people

01:08:53.000 how they should think, what they should believe, or how they should organize their lives, period.

01:09:00.000 But the problem, and maybe you're right that that's ideal, but is that people will have faith in a government to govern people they don't know, and that they'll never meet, and they'll send their tax money to that organization, and that government has to make decisions about where's the food going to go this month?

01:09:14.000 Who's going to get it?

01:09:15.000 Who's not going to get it?

01:09:16.000 So that's what I mean by who's going to live, who's going to die.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, they shouldn't be made, that's what a market is for.

01:09:20.000 That's why we have, that's why the government shouldn't be involved in markets.

01:09:25.000 But then you get an individual business leader deciding, like Vanderbilt.

01:09:29.000 Who shut off the trains to New York City.

01:09:30.000 No, look at all the- I mean, right now, you're talking about, you know, who's going to get food and stuff.

01:09:36.000 Grocery stores are all over the country.

01:09:39.000 People can decide where to go on their own, and we don't need the government to tell us how to live our lives.

01:09:44.000 But back before 1860, Vanderbilt, he owned all the trains in the country.

01:09:49.000 Basically, he ran the country, arguably.

01:09:52.000 He's the man who built America, Vanderbilt.

01:09:53.000 And he decided one day he didn't like the way they were treating him, so he cut off access to New York City.

01:09:56.000 He's like, no, you're not getting trains into New York City anymore.

01:09:59.000 Until you until you meet my demands and you realize how dangerous this let the private sector run.

01:10:04.000 I completely disagree completely totally disagree with your perspective and it is only the end if you empower the government to do those things then you are empowering the government to decide who lives and who dies who eats and who does not eat and the gut and any government is in history that has had that power, has abused it, and it turns into piles and piles and piles of dead human beings.

01:10:35.000 Let me just, because you haven't gone so far as to really argue the point of a modern Democrat, but what you guys are arguing is a modern Democrat would say, but the government is the people.

01:10:46.000 And you hear AOC actually say this all the time.

01:10:48.000 Absolutely not.

01:10:49.000 And I agree with you, right?

01:10:50.000 And to, I would say, in response to what you're talking about, because I get it, the Gilded Era, I get it.

01:10:57.000 I would rather deal with the Guild than a government.

01:11:01.000 That's just the way, that's where I'm at.

01:11:04.000 The government has unlimited power to coerce you, to hurt you, to, you know, there's never going to be a guy who's so rich he's going to be more powerful than the Central Intelligence Agency.

01:11:16.000 Or the Federal Bureau of Investigation?

01:11:18.000 I mean, well, not in this society.

01:11:20.000 Not in a true market.

01:11:23.000 But they're not a true market.

01:11:24.000 If we stuck to our original design.

01:11:31.000 I don't know why they named it this now, but they did work on this for a book.

01:11:36.000 They called it Virtue Capitalism.

01:11:39.000 Somewhere along the lines, we need to re-emphasize Some virtues that are about capitalism.

01:11:46.000 And to me, and have you read Max Weber?

01:11:50.000 The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism? 0.74

01:11:53.000 That's not capitalism.

01:11:54.000 So the pursuit of greed for greed's sake has been around since antiquity.

01:11:59.000 Yeah, and communism too.

01:12:00.000 That's exactly right.

01:12:01.000 It's everywhere.

01:12:02.000 It has nothing to do... So when you hear AOC make those points, it's like, well, that's not what capitalism is at its core.

01:12:09.000 And again, I'd rather deal with a greedy fat cat, you know, who's got competition with monopoly laws, you know, anti-monopoly laws, things like that, than a government.

01:12:19.000 Because somewhere along the line, Democrats started to believe what he was arguing against.

01:12:22.000 But you need the government to enforce the monopoly laws.

01:12:26.000 That's true, that's true, but we're not talking about to the point of, that's different, you have a justice system for that, that's within reason, we're not talking about the ability to chop up whole parts of society.

01:12:39.000 I don't believe the United States could be communist.

01:12:41.000 That's one of the reasons I think we're winning.

01:12:44.000 I think we can see communist influence, but the backlash that we're seeing in response to a lot of this stuff is the natural reaction.

01:12:50.000 I don't know about never, but not now.

01:12:53.000 I think never.

01:12:54.000 You think never.

01:12:54.000 Never say never.

01:12:55.000 I mean, well, like, let's be realistic, nothing's absolute.

01:12:57.000 Right.

01:12:58.000 For all we know, like, a plague hits, wipes out most of the population, and then a new civilization emerges calling itself the United States.

01:13:03.000 Yeah, there's a lot of circumstances.

01:13:04.000 I'm saying, based on the current iteration of our government and our culture today, the systems that we have in place, in all likelihood, will not.

01:13:13.000 What about fascists? 0.83

01:13:15.000 See, I never liked when the right always said, you know, Obama's a socialist, he's a fascist. 0.93

01:13:20.000 I think we're all fascists.

01:13:23.000 If you look at the Soviet Union, if you look at Communist China, we may get civil war, but I do not think we would get A lot of people will say like, is it a civil wars or a communist revolution?

01:13:34.000 And we'll interchange.

01:13:35.000 But let me break this down and clarify.

01:13:37.000 When I'm talking to my friend, I was visiting Ukraine covering some stories there.

01:13:43.000 And the apartment where we stayed used to be Soviet communist block housing.

01:13:47.000 And she explained how the apartment she was in back in the day, the two neighbors hated each other.

01:13:53.000 And so one neighbor called the secret police and said they were speaking bad about the party.

01:13:57.000 The next day, the apartment was cleared out.

01:13:59.000 Everything was gone.

01:14:00.000 That's it, neighbor taken care of.

01:14:02.000 That might happen in U.S. 0.98

01:14:03.000 cities, but I do not believe that if the United States ever went to that degree of authoritarian, it would be ubiquitous outside of cities.

01:14:15.000 For example, when they did all the COVID lockdowns, In most red areas, nobody did anything.

01:14:22.000 Even when they had those rules, a lot of them, they don't have the means to enforce it.

01:14:27.000 And when people are living successfully out in the middle of nowhere, they're just going to do whatever they want for the most part.

01:14:33.000 And they do.

01:14:34.000 There are parts of West Virginia where it's like, sure, you're supposed to get a permit for that.

01:14:38.000 And then people build whatever they want and everyone just rolls their eyes because like what are you gonna do?

01:14:42.000 You're you're you're 70 miles from the nearest town This is one of the things that affected West Virginia when

01:14:48.000 it came to This gun bill that the Democrats wanted to do where it was

01:14:53.000 like you had to go all gun transfers must be through FFL's Because some guy pointed out that he's in rural West

01:15:00.000 Virginia with like really crappy internet and the nearest FFL is like two

01:15:04.000 Or three hours away If he needs to give a shotgun to his cousin who lives down the road so his cousin can deal with like some raccoon problem or something because of his chickens, he's gonna drive three hours with his cousin to go fill out paperwork?

01:15:15.000 That's insane!

01:15:16.000 And so that stuff does not work.

01:15:18.000 And so there's a lot of things that are federally restricted that are not Like, look, I'm not talking about drug deals.

01:15:26.000 I'm talking about there are laws pertaining to gun sales, and there are people who live in the middle of nowhere who they're not gonna tell you, but they don't follow any of those laws, and no one knows, and no one cares, and it will not be enforced.

01:15:36.000 No ATF guy is gonna drive out to a trailer 300 miles from the nearest town for a guy who lives on 200, 300 acres of worthless property, where he just entertains himself and minds his own business, and then bought a gun from his neighbor, For a couple hundred bucks with that private sale.

01:15:51.000 They're not going to drive out there for that.

01:15:52.000 I mean they might but for the most part it's just off the grid and they can't even find it if they wanted to.

01:15:57.000 When it comes to the overt communist stuff...

01:16:00.000 There's not enough federal law enforcement to deal with the size of this country if they tried to be a secret police that were going and erasing people for speaking bad about the party.

01:16:10.000 In cities, no question.

01:16:11.000 In cities, we already watched people in Staten Island get arrested because they were saying, hey, don't bring these non-citizens into our neighborhood. 1.00

01:16:16.000 Yeah.

01:16:17.000 If you live in Staten Island, you're a subject, okay?

01:16:19.000 You're not a citizen.

01:16:20.000 You're a subject.

01:16:21.000 For those of us that don't live in these big cities, well, for the time being, we still have our freedoms and we are not subjects.

01:16:27.000 Subject only to the U.S.

01:16:29.000 dollar.

01:16:30.000 Well, kind of.

01:16:31.000 Not even!

01:16:31.000 I mean, some people are trading with all sorts of things, especially in the middle of nowhere.

01:16:35.000 That's cool.

01:16:36.000 But my point is this.

01:16:38.000 I'm not saying they won't try, but the amount of force you would need to maintain full-scale authoritarian communist control over a country like this...

01:16:49.000 The issue here is people here are just obstinate.

01:16:53.000 It's hard, but I agree it would be hard, but both China and the Soviet Union were both massive, massive countries.

01:17:01.000 I'm thinking long and hard about this.

01:17:03.000 So it's not that I don't think that you're right about the fact that it would be tough, but I think that what happens is you get violent The government coming down violently with the boot, and then it scares people into compliance.

01:17:20.000 Right.

01:17:21.000 So the issue is China has a history of dynasties.

01:17:25.000 Russia has monarchs.

01:17:27.000 The United States has fractured colonies struggling to agree with each other who are in revolt.

01:17:33.000 First, the people who came to the United States from Europe were people who are willing to die to get away from whatever was going on in their home country.

01:17:41.000 Quite literally, like you're in the UK and you're like, this sucks.

01:17:44.000 Can't practice my, no freedom of religion. 0.70

01:17:46.000 I don't want to be here.

01:17:47.000 Hey, if you get on this boat and ride for three months with a 20% chance of dying, you might make it to a barren shore.

01:17:54.000 And they were like, sign me up.

01:17:55.000 And I'm like, wow.

01:17:57.000 As an alternative to conflict within your country, escape was an option.

01:18:00.000 They took it.

01:18:01.000 The United States then is bred of people who want to be left alone, and it's like... That still is an identity.

01:18:10.000 You're right.

01:18:10.000 I'm listening to you and I'm thinking, but can't... Look at how people have changed.

01:18:14.000 Are we still, you know, largely that way?

01:18:16.000 But look at it this way.

01:18:18.000 Take a small cellular culture of angry people who say, don't tread on me, and then put a few drops in a big Petri dish, and then watch over a month as that whole thing spreads.

01:18:32.000 And you can see it is of the same culture.

01:18:34.000 There's mutations, there's changes.

01:18:36.000 Some other cells have creeped into the Petri dish, but it's still overwhelmingly is this one type.

01:18:40.000 And it just so happens this cell is resistant to a certain virus.

01:18:44.000 That is in our blood as Americans.

01:18:47.000 Which is why, I would not be surprised if the immigration problem is intentional to destroy, to bring in as many people as possible who are not of the pioneer, don't tread on me ethos, but they're trying to get as many people in this country who are of the ethos of, gimme gimme gimme, I will take what I want. 0.97

01:19:04.000 Then, it's very easy to control people when you give them what they want.

01:19:07.000 To quote, Fast and the Furious 4, When the villain says, he says, give the people something that they fear losing and you can control them.

01:19:17.000 Well, there you go.

01:19:18.000 But there's only one reason why, there's only one reason why Mayorkas would threaten Cubans who are coming 90 miles, you know, on a raft or a boat. 1.00

01:19:28.000 He'll threaten to open fire on them, right?

01:19:31.000 But he'll let anybody pour through the southern border from certain countries that he particularly wants.

01:19:35.000 It is a lot of Venezuelans.

01:19:36.000 And even Venezuelans, though, too.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, so Venezuelans and Cubans.

01:19:39.000 It's hard, though.

01:19:40.000 It's hard to separate Venezuelans, you know, from the rest of the pack. 1.00

01:19:44.000 It is.

01:19:44.000 Cubans on a boat, you know, and a lot of people from Honduras.

01:19:47.000 And the sentiment among most of these migrants is they want a better life, and I get that.

01:19:53.000 The American ethos was also very similar, but the thing about the people who came here is, and there's an overlap, which is why I say I respect the people who are coming here, Because they're willing to risk death.

01:20:05.000 For the most part, they're getting funding.

01:20:07.000 There's stories about NGOs paying their bills.

01:20:09.000 This is very, very different.

01:20:10.000 Big business.

01:20:11.000 You weren't landing on a barren shore.

01:20:13.000 The colonists were like, we're going to land on a shore.

01:20:15.000 It's going to be hard work.

01:20:16.000 And when the winter comes, you're probably going to die then too.

01:20:19.000 Life is rough.

01:20:20.000 The people who are coming here are like, once you get here, you are going to live in luxury compared to where you came from.

01:20:25.000 So there's an inversion as to what the economic, what the drive is.

01:20:29.000 My point, ultimately, is this nation is born and bred of people who are really angry and want to be left alone to the point where they, like, are willing to die to be left alone.

01:20:38.000 Which means, look man, you know that the feds raided that old dude's house because he was smack talking on the internet and they killed him?

01:20:46.000 That's like, that doesn't stop.

01:20:49.000 If the country does go full commie, tankie, whatever, cities will be bad, and they will try to enforce things outside of cities.

01:20:58.000 But what I think is more likely to happen is that cities will be barred from leaving.

01:21:02.000 People will- Yeah, that's what I think.

01:21:04.000 They'll have checkpoints around the cities.

01:21:06.000 There's a bunch of sci-fi movies and novels that are like this, where the people who live in the cities, very technologically advanced, very comfortable, but you're not allowed to leave.

01:21:13.000 And the people from outside the cities need special permits to come into the cities and get permission.

01:21:17.000 There's like a trilogy I'm thinking of right now, because I've thought the same thing.

01:21:21.000 That you're just not gonna be able to go.

01:21:23.000 And they'll try to make it as super cushy and comfortable for you, even though it is draconian.

01:21:28.000 Ugh.

01:21:28.000 What is the name of this trilogy?

01:21:30.000 They wouldn't let the serfs leave the land.

01:21:33.000 My wife's gonna kill me for not remembering. 1.00

01:21:35.000 There will be backwater rural folk who are surviving on their own and living just fine, and you go to a city and they're gonna stop you and be like, do you have your permit?

01:21:43.000 Do you have your social ID?

01:21:45.000 And there'll be stories.

01:21:46.000 You know what's over that wall?

01:21:48.000 Like the line.

01:21:48.000 They're doing this in Saudi Arabia.

01:21:50.000 The line.

01:21:50.000 That city where they want to build it.

01:21:52.000 Divergent.

01:21:53.000 city whether they want to build it that's right divergent divergent divergent

01:21:59.000 Even though that was an experiment, but I'm saying.

01:22:01.000 Right, right, right.

01:22:02.000 They didn't know.

01:22:02.000 That's the movie, is Divergent?

01:22:04.000 Yeah, there's Divergent and then there's like two others.

01:22:06.000 Resurgent.

01:22:07.000 Resurgent, yeah.

01:22:08.000 So in the first one only applies though, Tim, because you learn later it really is an experiment to try to weed out bad genes because many, many, many years ago, like in our time, They started to, you know, I don't like the color of my eyes.

01:22:23.000 I think I want blue eyes.

01:22:25.000 So I'm gonna pluck out my brown or whatever I have. 0.99

01:22:28.000 Greenish brown.

01:22:29.000 And I'm gonna have blue eyes.

01:22:31.000 I'm gonna change my DNA.

01:22:33.000 Well, we did it so much, we tainted our DNA.

01:22:36.000 So they made this experiment to try to find what is divergence.

01:22:40.000 But inside the cities, what are they doing to those divergence? 0.98

01:22:43.000 Hunting them and killing them. 0.99

01:22:45.000 And you can't leave. 1.00

01:22:46.000 Because if you leave, first of all, everything outside the wall is scorched.

01:22:50.000 There's no world left.

01:22:51.000 It's barren out there. 0.99

01:22:52.000 Don't even look.

01:22:53.000 Don't even look!

01:22:54.000 Yeah, it's great.

01:22:55.000 And they don't want the bad genetics to get out there, because then that'll mix into the population.

01:23:00.000 For all you know, right now, there is an entire galactic federation, and human colonies on other planets, and the ships that are flying by are the, you know how we view North Korea?

01:23:11.000 Yeah.

01:23:12.000 They're locked in, they're clueless, they believe all this nonsense. 0.75

01:23:16.000 I'll go on about this.

01:23:17.000 So these alien ships we're seeing that they're lying to us about, it's humans from the other space colonies who are like these poor people living under this despotism who are denied intergalactic technology. 0.83

01:23:27.000 I'm kidding by the way, but you know, you never know.

01:23:29.000 You never know.

01:23:30.000 We used to talk about this when I was younger, we're teenagers and my friends are all smoking weed.

01:23:33.000 I didn't smoke, but we'd be like, it's like a question probably every friend group has asked, what if we're North Korea?

01:23:40.000 What if, like, we think we're right, but really we're the ones locked?

01:23:44.000 And it's like, well, you're only saying that because you don't have a passport, you didn't go to, you didn't travel around yet, but you know, but it's a good question, right?

01:23:49.000 How do you know?

01:23:50.000 Speaking to Cernovich the other day with the abortion issue, the guy they were talking about going to hell for not being sufficiently pro-life, and speaking to Cernovich, he was just like, how do you know you're not dead yet?

01:24:01.000 How do you know you're not dead right now?

01:24:03.000 What are you talking?

01:24:05.000 I'm laughing because I thought it was hilarious.

01:24:07.000 For all you know, you could be playing Rich Barris 2, the pundit experience.

01:24:12.000 And you're like a 53 year old Mexican guy who's at the arcade right now.

01:24:18.000 I think one of the things that gives me a lot of hope, like almost like at the base of what I am is I've got this hope because American freedom, the way that we've designed this, is the best form of government on earth.

01:24:29.000 It's not great.

01:24:30.000 So far.

01:24:30.000 Yeah, so far.

01:24:31.000 And other people in other countries know it and they agree.

01:24:33.000 Like when I talk to kids in China, I used to do a chat roulette back when it was cool and I'd just roulette onto some Chinese dude or some girl and we'd talk about it and they'd be like, we're in China.

01:24:42.000 It's crazy in China.

01:24:44.000 You can barely get access to this.

01:24:46.000 And I was like, They all want it.

01:24:47.000 They all, like, they'll speak English, and like, I don't know, all is hyperbolic, but so many people want this as their government title.

01:24:53.000 Yeah, it's contagious.

01:24:56.000 It's contagious.

01:24:57.000 And I would say there is a trick, though, the Chinese started to pull on their population, and that is, and I only know this from having Chinese friends that I met, you know, back in college, they were trying to convince them that they were no longer the party of Tiananmen Square. 0.98

01:25:14.000 Right?

01:25:15.000 We're pragmatists now.

01:25:15.000 Yeah.

01:25:16.000 It evolved.

01:25:17.000 Yeah, we've evolved and we're pragmatic and we really want to shift.

01:25:21.000 But still, what did they do to trick them?

01:25:23.000 And that's interesting what you're saying.

01:25:25.000 I'm agreeing with you.

01:25:26.000 They tricked them by saying we're going to make our government more liberal.

01:25:31.000 We're going to open up the markets.

01:25:32.000 We want you to have what a lot of people in the West have.

01:25:36.000 And, of course, that was all total nonsense.

01:25:38.000 They wanted to exploit the West. 0.98

01:25:40.000 And if it made their own population more comfortable, then, you know, double win.

01:25:45.000 Twofer.

01:25:46.000 But they had convinced them that they were a more moderate party.

01:25:50.000 And this is before, this was, you know, Deng.

01:25:53.000 Deng Xiaoping.

01:25:54.000 Is that when they changed it to President?

01:25:56.000 They changed Chairman to President?

01:25:57.000 Now they call their leader the President?

01:26:03.000 I don't think that the word that they would use in English matters to the Chinese.

01:26:07.000 Our press changed that.

01:26:11.000 Did they actually change the definition of the word they use?

01:26:16.000 No, it's just something that's done in English.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, so chairman is the proper word, but I guess because Communists were taking over, they were like, just call him a president. 0.51

01:26:26.000 Because then it sounds democratic.

01:26:26.000 Yeah.

01:26:28.000 It's better, yeah.

01:26:29.000 Yeah, they want you to favor, look at communism favorably.

01:26:33.000 Right, they want you to think that he's a president like he's elected, which he technically is, but... But, I will say, communism would be really, really awesome.

01:26:41.000 It would be the greatest thing ever, as long as I'm in charge.

01:26:45.000 No, no, no, I'm not saying it would be good for anybody else.

01:26:48.000 Obviously, if I'm in charge, I'm gonna be living it up! 0.79

01:26:50.000 I'm gonna get morbidly obese, I'm gonna wear one of those silly little military uniforms, and everyone has to worship me like a god. 0.97

01:26:56.000 That's basically the mentality of communists. 0.95

01:26:58.000 They're all like, I can't wait till communism wins so that I can be in charge.

01:27:01.000 You'll be in charge of the rock-breaking line in the gulag.

01:27:06.000 I don't know if anyone here has heard of it, but Khrushchev's midnight speech is where he admitted all of Stalin's atrocities, right?

01:27:16.000 And that was really the beginning of the falling apart of the Soviet Union.

01:27:21.000 Khrushchev said, look, Stalin did all these terrible things, millions of people died, etc.

01:27:26.000 And in the speech, Khrushchev is talking about how Marx said that you needed to avoid a cult of personality, right?

01:27:33.000 But yet if you look at all of the socialist countries in almost all of the socialist countries

01:27:42.000 in history, there's always a cult of personality.

01:27:46.000 There was Mao in China, there was Pol Pot in Cambodia, there was Castro, there's Chavez,

01:27:57.000 and there's others that are smaller that I can't think of off the top of my head.

01:28:00.000 But they always have a cult of personality.

01:28:03.000 The people always focus their attention on one leader, and somehow that person embodies what the perfected socialist man of their time is.

01:28:15.000 And it is always as if it is a... It's a strongman.

01:28:21.000 Yeah, but it's more than just that.

01:28:23.000 It is a strongman, but it's like because it's treated as a religion.

01:28:28.000 The society in and of itself.

01:28:31.000 It treats the ideology as a religion, and so they focus on one person as the pure socialist.

01:28:38.000 It's the model.

01:28:39.000 It's like a book, like the Little Red Book with Mao, for instance.

01:28:44.000 It's like a feature of it.

01:28:45.000 I wrote about this in my dissertation.

01:28:47.000 It's what concerns me.

01:28:48.000 Real quick though, just because we mentioned those.

01:28:52.000 How many military dictators or right-wing dictators can you name?

01:28:58.000 Pinochet, what country?

01:29:00.000 Chile.

01:29:02.000 I spent time in Chile, that's why I know that.

01:29:03.000 Was there an actual dictator?

01:29:06.000 Military dictatorship in Brazil.

01:29:07.000 Who was running it?

01:29:08.000 Me neither.

01:29:08.000 I don't know.

01:29:09.000 Spain.

01:29:10.000 Spain's easy, right?

01:29:11.000 Franco, wasn't it?

01:29:12.000 Batista was right wing in Cuba before Fidel Castro.

01:29:14.000 Batista was right wing in Cuba before Fidel Castro.

01:29:24.000 Yeah, I gotta ask this though.

01:29:26.000 What are we really calling right wing?

01:29:28.000 Are we having the normal... When you say Franco is right-wing, it's like that's from a very left-wing perspective to call him right-wing.

01:29:37.000 That's why I said military dictatorships.

01:29:43.000 One thing I was going to say is I'm concerned about the cult of personality in American politics big time.

01:29:47.000 I don't think that Trump has any communist ambitions, but the cult of personality that was so eminent in communist regimes, I see it in the United States from time to time, the fervence, the willingness to go against what you believe.

01:29:59.000 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

01:30:02.000 Obsession with politicians in general.

01:30:03.000 She's so famous.

01:30:05.000 But that's the brilliance of our family fathers.

01:30:06.000 And even Washington, they wanted to do it to him!

01:30:10.000 And that's within us.

01:30:13.000 That's human nature.

01:30:14.000 It's access to resources.

01:30:17.000 It's your desire to live, to be able to progeny, to have progeny.

01:30:22.000 It's the desire to propagate oneself.

01:30:25.000 This is part of why I'm so concerned about Obama.

01:30:29.000 Michelle Obama.

01:30:30.000 Because Michelle Obama would inspire that kind of fervent dedication.

01:30:35.000 She's this.

01:30:37.000 She's someone we need to look up to, etc.

01:30:39.000 Now, I'm not saying that she would be a tyrant that would, you know, be like, all right, we got to start killing people like someone like Mao or whatever. 0.58

01:30:46.000 But that kind of adoration.

01:30:49.000 We saw people adore Barack Obama, and it would be the exact same thing.

01:30:54.000 With Michelle Obama, probably even more so.

01:30:57.000 People would adore her.

01:30:58.000 But I will say, Obama is cool.

01:31:01.000 Whether you agree with him or not, the truth is, you know, I just want to give an example.

01:31:07.000 Hillary Clinton had a more than 60% approval rating when she was the Secretary of State.

01:31:11.000 Favorability.

01:31:12.000 People love it.

01:31:13.000 Then she ran for president, everyone realized, this woman's Well, what do you mean?

01:31:18.000 She had hot sauce in her purse.

01:31:22.000 It was funny when she announced that the show would have to hide. 0.96

01:31:26.000 They were like, sounds like you're pandering to black people.

01:31:28.000 And she goes, is it working? 0.64

01:31:29.000 Is it working?

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:30.000 It's like, oh, so gross.

01:31:33.000 You think Michelle would, you think she'd have to hide so she wouldn't go down in favorability like Hillary did? 1.00

01:31:37.000 She's a nasty woman. 1.00

01:31:37.000 She would crash. 1.00

01:31:38.000 Americans would vomit when they start to get to know her.

01:31:42.000 They tried to do this.

01:31:44.000 I got kids.

01:31:46.000 Nickelodeon.

01:31:48.000 Every Saturday morning watching early morning cartoons with my kids, they had this woman, Kamala Harris, aspire to be Kamala Harris, and I'm sitting there with my little daughter watching, you know, like, uh, you know, what is that, Miraculous or something, and I'm thinking to myself, and not even thinking to myself, this woman is not who you want to be.

01:32:06.000 Because does anybody really want, does any father want their daughter, their little daughter, to grow up and emulate Kamala Harris?

01:32:16.000 Is that how you want your daughter to behave? 1.00

01:32:18.000 No.

01:32:18.000 You know, so she was supposed to be popular.

01:32:21.000 This is why Democrats are in a pickle right now. 0.50

01:32:24.000 Right.

01:32:24.000 She was supposed to be popular.

01:32:25.000 Nate Silver told them she would be popular.

01:32:28.000 It's because they listened to woke Twitter.

01:32:30.000 Yes.

01:32:31.000 And they were like, so if we go for this, you know, first female VP, woman of color, we're going to be great. 0.99

01:32:36.000 And everyone's like, she is one of the most despicable human beings. 1.00

01:32:39.000 But you know what? 0.98

01:32:39.000 Tulsi Gabbard Annihilated her. 0.98

01:32:42.000 Yeah, she was like Buffy the Vampire Slayer versus Dracula when she took a stake to the heart of the demon and said, Kamala Harris imprisoned innocent people, arrested them for pot, and it's just like, oof. 1.00

01:32:52.000 And she used them as slave labor and it's like, wow.

01:32:54.000 I thought she was gone after that initial debate and then there she reared her head like a phoenix. 1.00

01:33:00.000 Better analogy is that Kamala Harris was standing at the podium and Tulsi Gabbard took a bucket of water and splashed it on top of her and then Kamala went, But then the DNC started banging the drums like BUM BUM BUM and Kamala came up out of the mug like 1.00

01:33:17.000 Just like Twisted Sludge. 0.51

01:33:20.000 And they were like, we don't have anyone else, what do we do?

01:33:23.000 Actually, here, let's roll with it.

01:33:25.000 They took the sludge after Tulsi Gabbard splashed the water, brought it to the lab, and hooked electrodes up to it, and then cranked the lever.

01:33:32.000 And they were like, all we've got, we have to do this.

01:33:36.000 All we need is your corporeal form!

01:33:38.000 Do you think that anybody could run the Democratic ticket and be cool?

01:33:44.000 I'm telling you, we pulled Gavin Newsom and he was getting creamed.

01:33:49.000 And that's because people don't really know who he is yet.

01:33:52.000 But I feel like Ron DeSantis, for instance, is about to raise his profile big time.

01:33:57.000 Okay, I'll say it like this.

01:33:58.000 You cannot be a Democrat and be cool, and you cannot be a traditional Republican and be cool.

01:34:04.000 I'm sorry.

01:34:06.000 So the only thing that can come close to being cool is probably some form of anti-establishment, moderate Trump supporter to a certain degree.

01:34:18.000 Maybe the closest you'll get to it would be an Ian Crosland.

01:34:22.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:34:23.000 Because you can't lie.

01:34:24.000 If you lie, you're not cool in the modern age.

01:34:27.000 If a 19-year-old finds out you're lying to them, you're off the island.

01:34:31.000 You're done.

01:34:31.000 But to be fair, Ian is cooler than 99% of Congress.

01:34:38.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 And that's Democrats and Republicans combined.

01:34:40.000 Democrats have no cool factor at all.

01:34:41.000 They have no bench.

01:34:43.000 This is a real problem for them.

01:34:45.000 They have no bench.

01:34:47.000 Pete Buttigieg had some talent in 2020.

01:34:51.000 He did better than people thought he was going to do.

01:34:53.000 I think there's obviously some appeal he had, at least to the left there. 1.00

01:34:56.000 But then he ran the transportation department and proved to be a totally incompetent idiot. 1.00

01:35:03.000 Then he got hired and didn't go to work for a year. 1.00

01:35:05.000 Right, that's what I'm saying.

01:35:07.000 Adopting a baby.

01:35:08.000 This is why you can't be a Democrat and be cool.

01:35:13.000 Imagine we're all in high school.

01:35:15.000 The Democrats are the preppy kids. 0.98

01:35:17.000 The Republicans are like somewhat Like, preppy, but they have a few people who like the bad boy wearing the leather jacket and the blue jeans with the suave blonde hair going forward, sitting in the back being like, she's a fat pig over there, and they laugh. 0.97

01:35:33.000 Now, if you wanna win class president, you gotta basically get everybody, but the stodgy, nerdy kids who are teacher's pet are not cool. 0.79

01:35:41.000 And so, amongst themselves, they think they're cool.

01:35:43.000 They're like, dude, did you see that gym?

01:35:45.000 He got straight A's, and it's like, wow.

01:35:47.000 And then everyone else is like, who cares, man?

01:35:49.000 He can run so fast.

01:35:50.000 So you need a combination of someone who's talented, reasonable, authentic, and doesn't come off as stodgy, and the Democrats don't have any of that.

01:35:59.000 They started to with RFK, and then they were just like, no, he's too cool, get him out of here.

01:36:04.000 I mean, he's the coolest Democrat, but he's not that cool.

01:36:08.000 That's why if you watch Gavin in the spin room after the debates, which I only did after the fact, You could tell that he's trying to be almost like a left-wing version of Donald Trump.

01:36:21.000 He's trying to create a hate.

01:36:24.000 He wants the right to hate him, so the left is loyal to him.

01:36:28.000 And this is something that I think is a danger with RFK, and people may underestimate the hive mind that Democrats are.

01:36:36.000 If RFK runs against the DNC like this, and he gets pegged, for instance, as someone who is anti-democratic, like he becomes like their enemy, then he won't peel that many off.

01:36:50.000 He has to do it the right way.

01:36:52.000 I think Gavin understands that, and he wants the right to hate him.

01:36:57.000 Because if the right thinks it'll garner him respect and people will then, because they hate him, that means I'm good.

01:37:02.000 Yes, yes, exactly.

01:37:04.000 Let's pause real quick.

01:37:05.000 Go and look at it.

01:37:05.000 Let's define cool.

01:37:08.000 Oh yeah, he's not cool.

01:37:09.000 He's smart.

01:37:09.000 I'm literally saying, let's define exactly what it is we're talking about.

01:37:13.000 Chill.

01:37:15.000 So cool actually means too many things.

01:37:18.000 Cool means like, as an adjective describing a person, could actually mean like cold.

01:37:25.000 It could actually refer to someone.

01:37:26.000 Cool, calm, and collected, yeah.

01:37:27.000 Right.

01:37:27.000 Like a razor.

01:37:28.000 Stoic.

01:37:29.000 But it does.

01:37:30.000 A combination of how we use cool to describe someone.

01:37:34.000 It's charismatic, confident, attractive, fashionable.

01:37:38.000 You look up to them.

01:37:40.000 Healthy.

01:37:42.000 I think charisma.

01:37:45.000 It's a big one.

01:37:46.000 Coolness.

01:37:48.000 Desire to emulate.

01:37:49.000 Yeah.

01:37:49.000 That's it.

01:37:50.000 You want to be around them.

01:37:51.000 Be confident but not arrogant.

01:37:57.000 When someone is cool, you are saying they behave, act, and have the things that we look up to and desire for ourselves.

01:38:04.000 Not necessarily have things, but it's a combination of high social status, I guess.

01:38:10.000 Displaying proper higher social status of some sort.

01:38:15.000 Yeah, you want them around.

01:38:17.000 So, you look at it this way.

01:38:19.000 AOC at a party.

01:38:21.000 Okay, you know, whatever.

01:38:22.000 She's not the least cool person, but she's like... Pretty close.

01:38:25.000 She's nerdy, right? 1.00

01:38:27.000 Like, Democrats are all stodgy, nerdy, the preppy types. 0.96

01:38:31.000 Republicans, oh, ten times so. 0.90

01:38:34.000 But there's a handful of Republicans where you'd be like... They are cool.

01:38:37.000 Cool, cool-ish.

01:38:39.000 It's because the interesting thing is with the culture war, cool is actually fractured right now.

01:38:43.000 So, uh, there's a handful of Republicans who are cool-ish.

01:38:47.000 J.D.' 's cool.

01:38:48.000 It's cool.

01:38:48.000 J.D.

01:38:49.000 Yeah.

01:38:49.000 Vance?

01:38:50.000 I've never met him.

01:38:51.000 I don't know.

01:38:52.000 In person he's cool.

01:38:52.000 Yeah, maybe, but like, you're saying cool as in like he's a good guy.

01:38:55.000 No, I mean like, uh, he's like, like a, you know, an average dude.

01:39:00.000 Yeah, that's not cool.

01:39:01.000 Average is not cool.

01:39:02.000 No, I don't mean like, he's approachable, and he does have qualities that you do emulate.

01:39:06.000 This is why Hassan called Phil a failed musician.

01:39:09.000 Phil is cool.

01:39:11.000 No, but I mean, he does have qualities that... What are you laughing at?

01:39:15.000 Well, no, but look, look, look.

01:39:17.000 What's cool is... Don't worry, man.

01:39:19.000 Five gold records, platinum record, opening for Metallica... But he doesn't talk about it, that's what's cool.

01:39:23.000 No, but like... He's chill.

01:39:24.000 Phil is successful, and... But like, you've done things that everyone wishes they've done.

01:39:30.000 Yeah, you do talk about it, but you know.

01:39:32.000 I don't lord it over people, and it doesn't mean that I'm better than anyone.

01:39:35.000 Does it mean that Phil is the coolest person in the world?

01:39:37.000 Well, no, like, to varying degrees cool, but on average, you would say a rock star is cool.

01:39:42.000 Democrats don't have rock stars, Republicans don't have rock stars.

01:39:45.000 Republicans have slightly more than anybody else.

01:39:48.000 That's about it.

01:39:49.000 For some reason, there are things that are cool and things that are not, and it's really weird.

01:39:53.000 It's hard to define.

01:39:54.000 The thing too about the Democrats is... Sorry, just real quick.

01:39:57.000 To clarify my point, not to single out Phil, rockstar is considered to be objectively cool.

01:40:02.000 Successful musician and entertainer is considered to be an objectively cool thing.

01:40:05.000 I would say drugs are objectively cool, but they're not anymore with pharmaceuticals.

01:40:11.000 Smoking is objectively cool looking.

01:40:13.000 But it's not cool to do, but you look at someone smoking and there's always that attitude thing that goes along with it.

01:40:20.000 But now it's holding a cigarette like this and...

01:40:23.000 Yeah, like lighting it and not even smoking it.

01:40:25.000 And looking around like you don't care.

01:40:27.000 There's something about being aloof.

01:40:29.000 There's an aloofness to it, yeah.

01:40:31.000 It's like, trying to define cool is a very difficult thing.

01:40:35.000 But like, having almost no fear, no care.

01:40:39.000 You are aggressive, you are assertive, you are confident, you lack worry.

01:40:43.000 People want that in their lives.

01:40:45.000 That's the point I was trying to make.

01:40:46.000 The point I was trying to make is that the current Democrat I guess you could say, like, the ideal person is very uncool.

01:40:52.000 They're always the person at the party that's complaining about something that's good, that's saying, oh, like, that's annoying, that's, oh, oh, that you're like this, oh, well, that's problematic because of this, they're like, oh, that, and that's exactly the opposite of what someone that's cool, that doesn't care, that is, like, you know, aloof, like you said, it's not them.

01:41:05.000 It's like, the Democrats, okay.

01:41:09.000 You're at a house party.

01:41:10.000 And then Trump shows up with a keg.

01:41:14.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 And it's a high school party.

01:41:15.000 He is obviously cool.

01:41:16.000 Yeah.

01:41:18.000 And he's like, and he's, he's not the football player.

01:41:21.000 He's just a big dude is overweight.

01:41:24.000 He's kind of funny and snooty, but he brings the keg. 1.00

01:41:27.000 And then the Democrats are the ones being like, um, you're not old enough to drink.

01:41:30.000 We're gonna get in trouble.

01:41:31.000 Why are you bringing this here?

01:41:34.000 You don't have to be here for partying, man.

01:41:36.000 There's nothing less cool than people that are trying to hall monitor you.

01:41:42.000 I don't understand why the left isn't rejected by more people that want to go just out of hand.

01:41:50.000 Because if you're going to sit there and be like, oh, that guy swore.

01:41:54.000 You shouldn't talk to him.

01:41:56.000 He's got a bad opinion.

01:41:58.000 He said this terrible thing about them.

01:42:00.000 Literally, it's like, the hall monitor is never effing cool.

01:42:04.000 The guy that goes and runs to the teacher is never the cool guy.

01:42:10.000 They know they have a cool problem.

01:42:12.000 And I'll give two personal examples.

01:42:14.000 One, I'm not saying anyone in this room are the coolest people in the world or that we're more deserving.

01:42:18.000 No, I'm just saying the Democrats definitely have a cool problem.

01:42:21.000 But I will say, And this is personal.

01:42:24.000 When we did the skate thing in D.C.

01:42:26.000 I brought the story up before, but I'll get into more detail.

01:42:28.000 I put out some skate videos recently.

01:42:30.000 We filmed a few clips.

01:42:32.000 We went skating, and we had Sean Hover, shoutout, cool dude, pro skater, and we're skating in the barn.

01:42:39.000 I'm an old man.

01:42:40.000 I don't skate as crazy as I used to.

01:42:41.000 I did a handful of tricks.

01:42:42.000 They're a little sketchy.

01:42:43.000 He filmed them, and the Barracks posted them.

01:42:47.000 This is like the biggest skate brand in the world.

01:42:49.000 They post clips periodically.

01:42:50.000 They posted my clip.

01:42:51.000 They've posted other clips of mine before, and it was because of the tricks that I did.

01:42:54.000 A little sketchy, but they were particularly advanced tricks, so I was really excited.

01:42:57.000 I did something called the Fakie Ghetto Bird, and it was kind of sketchy.

01:43:00.000 It's a hard trick, and comments are pissed.

01:43:03.000 They're pissed.

01:43:04.000 When I was in DC, I announced, like, hey, we're gonna go skate in D.C.

01:43:09.000 And then these leftists, these super woke people, got really, really mad.

01:43:12.000 And this pro skater sent me a link to a forum, a skateboard forum, where people were talking smack about me having been at D.C.

01:43:21.000 Freedom Plaza skating.

01:43:22.000 And so people were like, he's not a real skateboarder anyway.

01:43:25.000 And one guy said, Tim Pool couldn't even do a pop shove-it, he's a poser, blah, blah, blah.

01:43:29.000 And then they all started trying to entertain this lie that I didn't actually skate.

01:43:32.000 Why?

01:43:34.000 Cool factor. 0.99

01:43:35.000 These people who are complaining sucked. 0.96

01:43:39.000 They don't have the talent or the merit and no one wants to film what they do because they're not landing anything good. 0.98

01:43:44.000 I didn't go there and say anything to anybody.

01:43:46.000 I hung out minding my own business, but I was doing 540 big flips.

01:43:49.000 I was doing like, you know, cancel flips, hard flips, hard flip, late flips, minding my own business, but probably doing some of the harder tricks at the spot.

01:43:59.000 I've been skating for 24, 25 years.

01:44:03.000 So they go on the internet and lie because they need to maintain Tim Pool doesn't actually do this thing.

01:44:09.000 No, no.

01:44:09.000 Phil is a failed musician.

01:44:11.000 Hasan says that. 0.68

01:44:11.000 Why? 0.68

01:44:12.000 Because Hasan doesn't have any talent.

01:44:15.000 There's nothing.

01:44:16.000 He's a guy who streams.

01:44:17.000 Hey, more power to him.

01:44:18.000 He's the biggest left-wing streamer.

01:44:20.000 I respect that.

01:44:21.000 Literally, he's ripped.

01:44:23.000 He's not the biggest.

01:44:24.000 He's just larger.

01:44:25.000 But the reason he says that Phil has failed And it's just like the worst possible timing.

01:44:31.000 A week after opening for Metallica and a few days before getting a fifth gold record, you don't say these things.

01:44:36.000 But it's because they have to make sure that there's no charismatic cultural influence coming from the anti-establishment faction.

01:44:44.000 It's the preppy kids being like, Don't try to keep the cool kids out of school.

01:44:50.000 You know what?

01:44:50.000 I got a really good example.

01:44:51.000 Watch the Decembrists video for 16 Military Wives.

01:44:57.000 It's not necessarily the most perfect example, but the lead singer of the Decembrists.

01:45:02.000 It's a good song.

01:45:03.000 Uh, plant a slingshot in the locker of the kid he doesn't like and then goes to the principal and says, look, look, he's got a slingshot to get him in trouble.

01:45:11.000 Like they're trying to keep the influences that threaten them away.

01:45:15.000 So if they came out and, and, uh, I saw this as really funny when, um, Hassan Piker was doing a review of the song we put out, Will of the People, the first song we put out a couple, three years ago.

01:45:24.000 Uh, he was, he was basically like sort of talking smack.

01:45:28.000 And the comments for people being like, no, this is Tim Pool, oh man, I like this song, oh no!

01:45:35.000 It's like, uh-oh.

01:45:36.000 Oh, come on. 0.99

01:45:37.000 They have to make sure, they tell everybody, we're lame, we suck, we're not good at anything. 0.99

01:45:42.000 The view of anybody who votes Republican needs to be a suit-wearing, stodgy guy who is uncool. 0.99

01:45:49.000 He's supposed to be the great unifier too, that really stinks.

01:45:52.000 And you really, I think, really hit on something.

01:45:55.000 That Republicans need to pay attention to.

01:45:58.000 They need to be painted as the hall monitors, the speed keepers.

01:46:01.000 It's like, look, I'm trying to... I want to do 75.

01:46:05.000 Okay?

01:46:06.000 Get in the right lane.

01:46:08.000 Republicans are substantially... Okay, so here's what I'll say.

01:46:11.000 I want to do 80.

01:46:12.000 95% of the Republicans are substantially less cool than Democrats.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:16.000 But there's only because there's a handful of Democrats that could moderately claim they're somewhat cool.

01:46:21.000 However, There are a few Republicans who are substantially cooler than all of the Democrats.

01:46:26.000 Speaking to your point, what Gavin Newsom is doing by talking about he actually called California the freedom state and he's spinning it.

01:46:38.000 Trying to make it seem as if California is the cool place where you can do what you want, you can live how you want, etc, etc.

01:46:48.000 Everyone knows that California has the highest taxes in the country, or some of the highest taxes in the country.

01:46:53.000 Everyone knows that California has...

01:46:56.000 Significant problems when it comes to crime, when it comes to homelessness. 0.97

01:47:00.000 Human feces.

01:47:01.000 That's among the problems.

01:47:04.000 But if you listen to the way that Gavin Newsom is trying to reframe people's understanding of California, he is trying to He's trying to make people believe that he is the cool candidate.

01:47:20.000 And that's also what Joe Biden... He's the American psycho. 0.98

01:47:23.000 I completely agree. 0.99

01:47:24.000 He is.

01:47:24.000 He's Bateman.

01:47:24.000 He's definitely Patrick Bateman.

01:47:26.000 But Gen Z likes Bateman.

01:47:28.000 They post the memes all the time.

01:47:29.000 That's true.

01:47:30.000 I agree, but it's speaking to the point that you're making.

01:47:33.000 He sees the value of being cool, and he is trying to make sure that he gets that into people's heads.

01:47:43.000 Remember when Ron DeSantis tried to be cool?

01:47:47.000 With the Bateman meme and stuff, it's like, bro, listen.

01:47:50.000 You need to understand what makes you cool.

01:47:53.000 And Ron, having that video put out, I guess their campaign put it out and then launched it through a third party or whatever is what they do.

01:48:00.000 Ron should not be... Ron's path to being cool is unique to Ron DeSantis.

01:48:06.000 And making memes of glowing eyes is not the way you do it.

01:48:09.000 No, he should have done a clip of him hitting a big bag of... just a punching bag.

01:48:13.000 What makes Ron cool is just being relaxed and authentic and being himself and owning it.

01:48:20.000 So, human behavior.

01:48:23.000 Someone in high school, right?

01:48:25.000 You're in high school, everyone's sitting around, someone farts.

01:48:28.000 They get really embarrassed, they fart, and everyone laughs at them for farting, and say, oh, you did it, you're gross, and the person blushes, and they're all like, oh, man, I'm so embarrassing, and they're like, that's so gross.

01:48:35.000 Then there's the class clown, who goes, attention, class! 0.97

01:48:39.000 And then stands up and rips one, and then starts laughing his ass off, owning it, and that's more like Trump. 0.99

01:48:45.000 Trump's the guy who farts in the room, and then starts laughing it off. 0.98

01:48:47.000 He just dropped an MF-er. 1.00

01:48:48.000 Tonight.

01:48:49.000 Trump did?

01:48:49.000 Yeah, when we were talking, he dropped it.

01:48:51.000 Yeah, he dropped it.

01:48:52.000 We gotta go to Super Chats, we're way late, we're way late.

01:48:55.000 Alright, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, become a member at TimCast.com if you wanna support our work.

01:49:00.000 We're gonna read your Super Chats.

01:49:01.000 We got Clint Torres, he's taking over first place.

01:49:04.000 He says, howdy people.

01:49:05.000 Hi Clint.

01:49:07.000 He's been getting the first Super Chat in every night.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:49:09.000 So you guys, man, it's been no competition for him.

01:49:12.000 Did you get the neural net, Clint?

01:49:14.000 Laser fingers.

01:49:16.000 Alright, Ben says, Dianne Feinstein, Senator from California, dies at age 90. 0.98

01:49:19.000 Ding dong, the witch is dead.

01:49:20.000 The power of attorney wasn't a joke then, I guess.

01:49:23.000 You said she just voted recently?

01:49:24.000 She voted last night.

01:49:26.000 How?

01:49:26.000 For the aviation funding bill.

01:49:29.000 Somebody voted for her?

01:49:30.000 Is that what it looks like?

01:49:31.000 And honestly, maybe it was a little bit too soon.

01:49:34.000 I did see somebody earlier say that the Senate is again amending its rule to continue to allow Senator Feinstein to vote.

01:49:42.000 And it was a little too early.

01:49:44.000 Porkchopolis, as I heard, Feinstein plans to run for re-election from beyond the grave.

01:49:49.000 In the same mold.

01:49:51.000 Jason Dixon says, Tim, can you please shout out the Discord's Friday After Show?

01:49:54.000 Exclusively in Discord hosts are Olivia Claire, Joey Canole, and Cianoski.

01:49:59.000 Cianoski.

01:50:00.000 Cianoski?

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:01.000 Members, welcome.

01:50:01.000 That's right, if you're a member at TimCast.com and you sign up to join the Discord server, there will be an After Show hosted by Olivia Claire, Joey Canole, and Cianoski.

01:50:11.000 Cianoski.

01:50:11.000 It's Cianoski, right?

01:50:12.000 Cianoski.

01:50:12.000 I don't know, that's what everyone's saying.

01:50:13.000 I just say Cianoski.

01:50:14.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:50:14.000 Members welcome, and we very much do encourage it.

01:50:19.000 Look, honestly, Discord members started building their own stuff.

01:50:21.000 Yeah, it's wild.

01:50:22.000 It's like, you invite a bunch of people into a room, and then you come back a week later and they've built, like, a castle, and I'm like, oh wow.

01:50:27.000 Thank you, that's very nice.

01:50:28.000 It's very cool, people are doing it.

01:50:30.000 But I'm really excited for the coffee shop when it gets opened.

01:50:33.000 At some point, we're waiting on permits because we have to do construction stuff inside to keep up to code to update it.

01:50:39.000 Okay.

01:50:39.000 But second floor is gonna be really awesome because then members can come hang out and we're really excited.

01:50:45.000 Imagine all the really cool stuff you can hang out with people if you're in the West Virginia area in DC and play games and watch TV and it'll be fun.

01:50:52.000 It'll be very, very fun.

01:50:53.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:50:55.000 Griffin Street Studios says, TimCast Discord is classist.

01:50:58.000 Desperately needs more features and groups for base level $10 a month members.

01:51:02.000 On the right track, needs more for us poors. 0.98

01:51:05.000 You are 100% correct!

01:51:07.000 Uh, we're trying to figure it out.

01:51:09.000 Yeah, what would be a good example, I know you just super chatted, but of what you could get at $10?

01:51:14.000 Like, what would be a good example?

01:51:15.000 Hit us up, let us know.

01:51:17.000 Well, I mean, on, on, on, yeah, we're like, we're, we are desperately trying.

01:51:20.000 But also consider, the membership typically was like, we do the after show, and then we launched the Discord as a mean to, as a way to bring callers in, and then create a communal space.

01:51:30.000 But, uh, this is, this is, this is, this is the tough spot.

01:51:33.000 It's like, The amount of people that we've added to TimCast membership by creating the cost of the Discord does not cover the cost of the Discord.

01:51:41.000 So just so you guys know.

01:51:42.000 So like, a certain amount of people will sign up to be members to watch the after show and support the work we do.

01:51:48.000 We then say, we're gonna launch new shows with the money we make, we're gonna open a coffee shop, we're gonna buy ads, we're gonna fight the culture war.

01:51:55.000 One of the things we decided to do was launch the Discord.

01:51:57.000 We don't make more money for doing it.

01:51:59.000 In fact, it costs us more money to run the Discord than we actually make by having it.

01:52:03.000 But, This is the point, you know what I mean?

01:52:09.000 Like, if you came to me and asked me, like, hey, what would you buy if you had a million dollars, I'd be like, I'd use it to win the culture war.

01:52:13.000 Yeah, you'd speed rush your theaters.

01:52:16.000 Build your cultural buildings.

01:52:18.000 That's what money's for.

01:52:20.000 I'll say this before I say it again.

01:52:22.000 What my salary is at Timcast is based off of the Tim Pool Morning Show that I produce and host entirely on my own.

01:52:28.000 95%.

01:52:29.000 Granted, the Timcast infrastructure does benefit to a certain degree, like internet and all that stuff.

01:52:34.000 But then I pay my salary entirely based off of actually less than What is generated from the Tim Pool Daily Show, which is my morning podcast.

01:52:40.000 Everything else that comes from TimCast.com, TimCast IRL, basically just pays for other employees, all the cultural projects we're working on, the Discord server.

01:52:50.000 People are asking in the chat, they say Discord's free.

01:52:53.000 What do you mean?

01:52:54.000 They're confused.

01:52:55.000 If you are a TimCast member, we have a members-only Discord where you can hang out.

01:52:59.000 Oh, that's paid for by the company.

01:53:01.000 There's in the members only discord is paid for we we we pay for yes, I'm like members pay to sign up to our exclusive Members only discord which gives you access to website stuff and and they sink Yeah, it's like free to have Discord, yeah, but in order to have access to our forums and everything like that, you have to pay.

01:53:20.000 I think people also don't realize that we have staff members who maintain and run and build the things people are asking for.

01:53:26.000 Every day, yeah.

01:53:27.000 Like we have a full-time, like Brett's full-time running the Discord.

01:53:29.000 100%, yeah.

01:53:31.000 And then, right, so the amount of users that we have does not, like, okay, so before Discord, we have X users.

01:53:38.000 We launch Discord, we gain a little bit.

01:53:40.000 People are like, oh, this is really interesting, I'm really interested in being involved.

01:53:42.000 But the cost of running the Discord is more than the members we added.

01:53:45.000 Yeah, yeah, get it.

01:53:46.000 That solves the question.

01:53:47.000 So it's like, we definitely want to promote the Discord and make it to the point where we can invest in expanding everything.

01:53:53.000 But again, I will stress this.

01:53:55.000 The money we get from everything, like Timcast IRL, Timcast.com memberships, we're investing in the Discord for you guys to have a communal space.

01:54:03.000 We're launching this club so that people will have a physical space to go hang out.

01:54:07.000 I guess I could argue, like, I don't have to do any of that, I could just put the money in my pocket and say, it's my business, it's a private company, I'll go buy a bunch of cars and then buy a private jet or something, but I'm fairly happy with the money I get from the morning show, and I want to win the culture war, so that's why... I'll give you an example.

01:54:22.000 We put up billboards in Times Square.

01:54:23.000 Why?

01:54:24.000 It's promotion, it's marketing, obviously, but we added Michael Malice and Luke Rutkowski to them, because promoting them, in my view, helps win the culture war.

01:54:31.000 Things like that.

01:54:32.000 I'm thinking of civilization.

01:54:33.000 With money, all you can do is build the theaters and the opera houses, but the only way you can create the great works is with the great people.

01:54:41.000 You need the people.

01:54:42.000 Money doesn't buy the people.

01:54:43.000 No substitute.

01:54:45.000 One thing I've purchased for myself.

01:54:47.000 Um, with my money, is we're building a frog pond.

01:54:51.000 A frog?

01:54:51.000 A frog pond.

01:54:52.000 Frogs are sweet.

01:54:53.000 Tell me more.

01:54:54.000 We have a little frog pond, and then frogs will swim in it.

01:54:57.000 Bullfrogs?

01:54:58.000 Probably.

01:54:58.000 They're everywhere, all over the place.

01:55:00.000 Frogs and turtles, and sometimes they jump all the way out here, and then they're just standing in the grass, and I'm like, let's build a frog, a little frog.

01:55:06.000 There's no cultural victory, I'm sorry, but I wanted one.

01:55:09.000 Ponds are awesome.

01:55:10.000 I got one, I don't know how to stop it.

01:55:12.000 It's called my pool, and I can't keep them out, and I feel bad because they die!

01:55:17.000 Yeah, chlorine.

01:55:18.000 Yeah, well, we have the salt one, but they get stuck in the skimmer, can't get out.

01:55:24.000 I gotta read this one.

01:55:26.000 F.S.

01:55:26.000 Clare says, Tim, the British man who exposed that Canada plotted a Nazi in Parliament, Warren Thornton, was arrested under mal-information.

01:55:33.000 Phil is correct.

01:55:34.000 We are in the Maoist revolution now.

01:55:36.000 Please read this and people, please wake up.

01:55:38.000 We are in it.

01:55:38.000 So what happened with this guy?

01:55:39.000 Yeah, yeah, I heard about this.

01:55:42.000 So remember how the Canadian Parliament applauded... A literal Nazi. 0.83

01:55:47.000 Yeah.

01:55:48.000 Apparently, they really did start to dispute whether or not, you know, it was as bad as everyone said it was.

01:55:55.000 And I didn't read the story, but I did see something on Twitter that apparently... They arrested the guy?

01:56:00.000 I don't know if they arrested him, but I did see them, like, criticize... They might have.

01:56:04.000 They very well might have.

01:56:05.000 What's his name?

01:56:05.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:56:06.000 I don't know, I just saw it, you know, scrolling on the timeline, but, um...

01:56:09.000 We... I mean... We don't know where the line is.

01:56:17.000 You know, Tim, I understand what you're saying, but we don't know the line between that snowball, when everything goes slow, and then it just becomes... Well, gradually then suddenly.

01:56:26.000 Mike Oxhard says, this really makes me worried for RFK.

01:56:30.000 The Kennedy curse will be on steroids if he is the reason for Biden losing against none other than Trump.

01:56:36.000 Greedo says, the next civil war here in the United States will be more like the city-state wars of Italy, where King of Bohemia challenged the Pope for control of the country and the city-states broke up on different sides.

01:56:47.000 Woah, what year was that?

01:56:48.000 This was, like, 1300s, I believe.

01:56:51.000 Like, Bologna and Medina had a famous battle over, like, the bucket.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff.

01:56:56.000 I'm playing as the Venetian Patriarchs in Crusader Kings 2 right now.

01:56:59.000 Bojivan says, Tim, where is the Culture War podcast and why was the FBI whistleblower episode removed?

01:57:04.000 Please be transparent with loyal viewers.

01:57:06.000 If not, ignore the super chat.

01:57:08.000 It was live.

01:57:10.000 We took it down and uploaded it as a standalone video.

01:57:13.000 So it's still there, right?

01:57:14.000 Yes.

01:57:15.000 Yeah, it's on YouTube.

01:57:16.000 Yeah.

01:57:16.000 It just doesn't appear in the live tab, it'll appear in the videos tab because we uploaded it as a VOD.

01:57:20.000 That's probably what they're in on.

01:57:21.000 Why there was no episode today?

01:57:23.000 Because our guest cancelled on us on Monday, our backup guest cancelled on us Thursday morning.

01:57:29.000 And then it's like, okay, well sometimes this happens.

01:57:34.000 But, you know, it is what it is, and I couldn't do anything about it.

01:57:37.000 We should just jam next time.

01:57:38.000 That's too early.

01:57:39.000 No, we have a triple backup plan, but I said no.

01:57:44.000 It's basically like we had a really, really, really great guest that was very difficult to book, and they canceled on us, again, and I'm upset about that.

01:57:54.000 And then we have a backup roster of people who are interested in coming on, and we said, hey, we have the spot opened up, and this is Monday.

01:57:59.000 Can you come?

01:58:00.000 And then they missed their flight.

01:58:02.000 And we're like, I'm just not coming.

01:58:04.000 And we're like, okay.

01:58:05.000 And then our final plan was let's do a cultural episode with our existing friends and guests and it's like...

01:58:14.000 I don't think we can pull that off.

01:58:16.000 We have to plan for it better, but the idea was just to get people you've already known, who we hang out with, just to come and hang out again.

01:58:23.000 And Rogan does this, that's why he'll have his buddies on.

01:58:26.000 Oh yeah, those fight companions and stuff.

01:58:28.000 But that works because that's his only show.

01:58:31.000 For us to take IRL friends and guests and do a Culture War episode defeats the purpose of what the Culture War is.

01:58:37.000 So I was like...

01:58:39.000 If we could get literally anybody else, we could have like two IRL friends with any other person, and then have a conversation that's unique that we don't do in IRL, but...

01:58:49.000 I don't know.

01:58:49.000 I don't know who the guests were, and I don't need to know, but I saw Destiny Vash and Emma Vigeland were all in D.C.

01:58:56.000 shooting a video.

01:58:56.000 I watched them all talking at a table.

01:58:58.000 I would love to have them over and do that here.

01:59:00.000 Well, you know, Phil was pointing out that's because of us, right?

01:59:03.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:59:04.000 We started doing podcasts with Congress, and now all of a sudden the left is trying to do it.

01:59:07.000 That's what it seemed like to me.

01:59:09.000 I imagine people in Congress took notice that, you know, Tim Pool is up there at Capitol Hill talking to Congress people and they started to say, oh hey, that's a smart idea.

01:59:19.000 Especially considering, you know, it is going into the election season.

01:59:23.000 Right.

01:59:24.000 But good for them.

01:59:25.000 I'm glad they did it.

01:59:26.000 I wish I would have known.

01:59:27.000 I would have asked Destiny if he could have come down because we could have had another.

01:59:29.000 Because that would work for another culture war.

01:59:32.000 For sure.

01:59:33.000 Destiny's good.

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:35.000 Destiny and Vosh, I think, would be a good conversation. 1.00

01:59:37.000 Emma, I thought, was a bit silly. 0.94

01:59:40.000 Yeah, it looked pretty cool.

01:59:40.000 I only got 10 minutes of what they were doing, but it looked pretty nice that they were outside.

01:59:43.000 Actually, it would have been epic if we had Destiny, Vosh, me, and Phil and did a culture war.

01:59:47.000 That would have been...

01:59:49.000 Lit!

01:59:49.000 Yes!

01:59:50.000 That's too bad.

01:59:51.000 Maybe we should reach out to them and see if they want to do it.

01:59:54.000 Would you want to do it?

01:59:54.000 I'll do it.

01:59:55.000 I think it would be epic.

01:59:59.000 Vosh asked me to come on.

02:00:00.000 Vosh one time wanted me to come on to his stream and I turned him down because I'm not going on Vosh's stream.

02:00:05.000 Because he's a communist?

02:00:06.000 Because I'm not going to help him monetize.

02:00:09.000 Whatever man.

02:00:10.000 I get it.

02:00:11.000 I do.

02:00:12.000 I'm not going to be a good capitalist.

02:00:14.000 Well, yeah, I mean the thing is, like, you know, he wants to have the rock star on, and I'm sorry, but you don't just get to have the rock star.

02:00:21.000 That's all there is to it.

02:00:23.000 But this is why they have to call you failed.

02:00:24.000 That's right.

02:00:26.000 They have to act like they're cooler than everybody.

02:00:28.000 But to be fair, I will give us on this.

02:00:30.000 First, as I said, I have tremendous respect for the success he has.

02:00:33.000 It's not easy. 1.00

02:00:34.000 It's stupid to me when people are like, Trump's a moron. 1.00

02:00:36.000 He's a failure. 1.00

02:00:36.000 I'm like, no, he's not. 1.00

02:00:37.000 He's a billionaire. 0.89

02:00:38.000 Taylor Swift is awful. 1.00

02:00:39.000 Her music sucks. 1.00

02:00:39.000 I'm like, dude, nearly a dozen. 1.00

02:00:41.000 She's rich, you're not. 0.99

02:00:43.000 And Hassan clearly is successful and is looked at by many people as being a cool dude.

02:00:47.000 That's totally fine.

02:00:48.000 I respect that.

02:00:49.000 But to his credit, A component of being that charismatic figure is controlling the narrative around who is cool and who is not.

02:00:59.000 So for Hassan to have a massive audience, act like a tough guy and say he's cool, that's a component.

02:01:05.000 Trump is a tough guy who pushes people around, it's part of cool factor.

02:01:09.000 It's a hard thing to define.

02:01:10.000 I don't like bully cool.

02:01:12.000 Cool factor, it's not the epitome of it, success really is.

02:01:17.000 Actually, the cool kids that were bullies made me hate humanity, so you gotta be careful.

02:01:24.000 But they're different, somebody like a Donald Trump is like, people have to understand, a lot of people call him a bully, but when you're him and you're constantly under attack, and you're constantly needing to defend yourself, it can't be easy to be Donald Trump.

02:01:38.000 You're right, but as soon as someone's nice to Trump, he's nice to them.

02:01:42.000 That's his currency.

02:01:44.000 That really is his currency.

02:01:46.000 Jason Dixon says, Tim, none of the after shows hosts and shows are paid full volunteers.

02:01:51.000 We did it for free.

02:01:52.000 We do it for culture.

02:01:53.000 This is fact, true and correct.

02:01:55.000 What the members are building in the member discord is completely organic and from them based on the goodness of their hearts and what they want to do and what they think we need to do.

02:02:04.000 My point about the cost of running the discord is basically just the infrastructure staff The, you know, Brett runs it, then we have IT people behind the scenes for maintaining.

02:02:14.000 There's code involved in the website integration and things like that.

02:02:18.000 So, there is a greater cost to it.

02:02:20.000 That being said, guys, I am, I am paying attention to what's going on in the Discord server and, uh, I'll just leave it at that.

02:02:26.000 Like, I certainly think there's an opportunity for something beyond just what we have and, uh, a way to, uh, do something more for the shows that are already in existence on the Timcast members only.

02:02:36.000 Like, there's no reason why they shouldn't just be So, we'll talk about it.

02:02:43.000 When we get the club set up, I'm thinking it would be really cool to actually get equipment, invest in it, and provide it for the member community after shows and then actually have the videos available alongside the shows on Discord and just film it and have them for everybody.

02:03:03.000 Alright everybody, if you haven't already, please smash that like button, would you kindly?

02:03:07.000 And subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, become a member next week!

02:03:11.000 We are in Miami!

02:03:13.000 This is gonna be epic.

02:03:14.000 Luke will be on all week for the show at a special studio location where we will be filming.

02:03:19.000 Friday's show will be an exclusive members-only live event with Matt Gaetz, Patrick Bette David, James O'Keefe, and a ton of people are gonna be there.

02:03:28.000 The guest list of like...

02:03:30.000 Yeah, I think it's like 20 plus people that you guys know and love.

02:03:34.000 And one of the reasons why I said, let's just, we're going to do it members only.

02:03:39.000 The obvious guys, we really do try to build memberships.

02:03:41.000 It's what runs the company.

02:03:43.000 So if there's an opportunity and we're doing an event and it's like, well, If we're selling tickets to it, giving it away for free online defeats the purpose of selling tickets, we want to build up memberships.

02:03:54.000 But the big question that came up was, hey, someone could sit in the front row and scream bad things. 0.99

02:03:59.000 And we're like, well, then we're going to have to figure that one out audio-wise.

02:04:02.000 And it's like, well, you really can't.

02:04:04.000 And it's like, that's a fair point.

02:04:06.000 Maybe we should just take it off YouTube.

02:04:08.000 And then I'm like, well, if we just do it members only, we can literally go nuts.

02:04:14.000 Like, actually go nuts.

02:04:16.000 People can talk about whatever they want to talk about, it's us. 0.97

02:04:17.000 Nudity, yeah.

02:04:19.000 No, I- I'm just saying we can, I'm not saying I'm gonna. 0.88

02:04:24.000 I'm not saying I'm going to get naked on Friday.

02:04:26.000 I'm not saying.

02:04:27.000 But it means we don't have to worry so much.

02:04:29.000 We're going to have the clips up.

02:04:30.000 The full podcast will be available on Apple and Spotify and all of that for the show itself.

02:04:34.000 But it means that we're going to have all the time in the world for the venue, which means there's going to be a pre-after show with the special guests.

02:04:41.000 We'll probably have people jump up on stage periodically and just go nuts and just have a really good time.

02:04:45.000 So I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there and become a member at TimCast.

02:04:48.000 Go to TimCast.com, click join us.

02:04:50.000 We're going to have two YouTube videos put up next week explaining How to sign up, one on Monday and then one on Friday just before the show for those that want to watch it.

02:05:00.000 You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.

02:05:01.000 You can follow me personally at TimCast.

02:05:03.000 Rich, do you want to shout anything out?

02:05:04.000 Yeah, people can just go ahead and follow me if they want to check out the polls we're going to do.

02:05:08.000 We're going to find out who RFK hurts, for sure, real soon.

02:05:12.000 They can do that at peoplespundit.locals.com.

02:05:14.000 That's the central hub, Tim.

02:05:16.000 That's the only place you've got to go.

02:05:18.000 You'll see it all from there.

02:05:20.000 I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.

02:05:22.000 I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.

02:05:24.000 The band is All That Remains.

02:05:26.000 You can follow us on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube, Pandora, you know, the internet.

02:05:35.000 I'm Ian Croson.

02:05:36.000 You gotta follow me on the internet.

02:05:37.000 I will see you next week in Florida.

02:05:38.000 I'm super pumped, Rich.

02:05:39.000 Great energy, man.

02:05:40.000 Good to see you again, dude.

02:05:41.000 Always a pleasure.

02:05:42.000 Thanks for having me.

02:05:43.000 All the best, brother.

02:05:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:45.000 Surge.

02:05:45.000 Yeah, I'm excited to be in Miami.

02:05:48.000 It's gonna be fun.

02:05:49.000 Hit me up on Twix.

02:05:50.000 I feel like I'm close to another thousand people, which is cool.

02:05:55.000 Also, follow me on Instagram.

02:05:56.000 It'd be cool to get more on there.

02:05:58.000 It's 82 in Miami.

02:05:59.000 Yeah, it's gonna be sweet.

02:06:00.000 I can't wait for Miami.

02:06:02.000 Weird, like, overcast, western weather.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 29, 2023

Timcast IRL - RFK JR Prepares Independent Run SPIKING Democrats, HELPING TRUMP w-Rich Baris

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